Sosua Reports

[John from NJ]

Thanks for your reply I have considered blackbeards but thought it would be cheaper in sosua with more attractive ladies? Am looking for all night long ladies any idea how much that costs, thanks.I split my last trip between Sosua and Black Beards. It was my first visit to Black Beards and I enjoyed my stay. The chicas and everything else you need is right there. The BB chicas are first class and defiantly take care of you. In Sosua you have to be very careful. A lot of the Sosua chicas are con artists, thieves, and opportunists. They may see you as an easy target. Using Classicos and the NG as bench marks the cost of food, liquor and lodging at BB is similar. The chicas do get premium prices which are fixed at 1600ST and 3000TLN. But ST sessions are not rushed and a TLN can last from early evening to noon the next day. I read on some board where a guy kept a chica 24 hours for 4500 poses. Most of the rooms & the disco which is open Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights are up a flight of stairs and I did not see an elevator. The first floor rooms are two bedroon suites. This may present a problem for you. Send BB's an email and explain your limitations. I'm sure they will respond with a solution. Also contact the mamasan. She should be able to give you some advice and suggestions.

[Bimmy5]

FYI: another monger mentioned that you can stay at New Garden in Sosua and sample the talent hanging around the pool area. Trust me when I tell you that you would be highly disappointed relying on this option. The chicas there are nothing to write home about. They also do not work for New Garden so they come and go during the day/week/month as they please. Blackbeard's has a day shift and night shift of chicas that come to the resort to hang out. If you saw a chica on the day shift that you could not get around to (like if you were already occupied with a chica) you could catch her the next day. Consistency is what you want.I have been to BB's & Sosua many times and I enjoy them both. But come on-I stay at the NG, but there is a lot more to Sosua than the talent at the NG. Also, though I agree with what you say about the usual talent at the NG, I find that almost everyday there are a few surprises that come in that are better than the usual.

[Kman1]

Thanks for the reply, did I read it right, there are girls in New Garden if so do you have any idea how much they charge and how pretty are they, thanks again.I have never been to Blackbeards but that should definitely be much easier for you. But, if you wanted to experience Sosua, NG would be a good place to stay. Though there may only be a few girls inside the hotel itself, just by sitting at the restaurant facing the street you would see honies walking by during the day. All you have to do is smile or wave. The prices are similar to Blackbeards (for ST and TLN, though you can bargain in Sosua, nothing is fixed). To get a hot one for an all nighter and to choose from a variety you must be able to get out on the main street. Even if you cannot go up to the Classico disco you will still find plenty in the bars on the street level. But again you are going to be exposed to a lot of different kinds of people on the street other than chicas (traffic, motoconcho guys, vendors, hustlers, aggressive chicas) etc. So, it depends on how comfortable you are with those.

Blackbeards will provide you with a safe and controlled environment with the certain number of chicas (Presume 40 to 50?). So defintely SavePros is giving you good advice.

[Mr Enternational]

Would anyone happen to know if they let outsiders (those not staying at the hotel) pay to enter the buffet at Sosua Bay?$13 for the breakfast. I don't know if there is an option on the other meals. I know it is not possible to purchase drinks and such. The bartenders do not have anything to do with money. You would have to be part of the all inclusive program for that. I will ask for sure when I get there tomorrow though.

[Frannie]

Even if you cannot go up to the Classico disco you will still find plenty in the bars on the street level.I have observed that every chica who is upstairs in Classico disco gets there by walking up the stairs, and that all who leave do so by walking down the stairs or going head first. Therefore by stategically positioning yourself at the corner of the Merengue Bar near the foot of the staircase and the ticket office for the Classico disco, you can intercept any chica planning to go up the disco and save her 200 pesos, which is $5, by wiggling your nose, grabbing your crotch like Michael Jackson, and saying "Ficky ficky mil pesos?" or whatever is your most seductive line of chat.

[Frannie]

Thanks for the reply it was very usefull, am not taking my wife with me I usually self propell, was considering finding some help there if it was cheap enough, thanks again.No, I think it is best not to take the wife as she may not fit in with the Sosua scene unless she is a loud-mouthed, wizened bottle blonde with nicotine stained fingers who can pass for a local expatriate wife. You may be able to find a local wheelchair pusher to help you get around. The trick is to get someone who is not a hustler or pimp taking commissions from girls for introductions to you.

[BoricuaOnline]

Metro has 3 SOS (Sosua) buses scheduled everyday according to their website.

http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html

, do you have to change bus at POP even if you get one of these! Or do you change bus at POP when you get the ones scheduled for POP only. Anyone knows this?The bus that leaves from Santo Domingo to Sosua make stops in Santiago and Puerto Plata. The bus, which is very large can not fit into the small Metro bus station in Sosua so we have to change to a smaller one.

[SavePros321]

I have been to BB's & Sosua many times and I enjoy them both. But come on-I stay at the NG, but there is a lot more to Sosua than the talent at the NG.I agree with you, but MetcalKieth uses a wheelchair and crutches. We were suggesting Blackbeard's and FOD as a place he should visit that will allow him to have just as much fun without all of the hassle. For instance, he would not be able to enter Classicos in a wheelchair and he definitely is not going to be trying to wheel himself all the way down the street to La Passions. It's already far enough just walking on foot.

[SavePros321]

$13 for the breakfast. I don't know if there is an option on the other meals. I know it is not possible to purchase drinks and such. The bartenders do not have anything to do with money. You would have to be part of the all inclusive program for that. I will ask for sure when I get there tomorrow though.Thanks for the info Mr. E!

[Tempoecorto]

Metro has 3 SOS (Sosua) buses scheduled everyday according to their website.

http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html

, do you have to change bus at POP even if you get one of these! Or do you change bus at POP when you get the ones scheduled for POP only. Anyone knows this?I took a Sosua direct from Santiago in September - 9.00 AM if I recall. The bus stopped at Puerto Plata at the terminal and then continued on to Sosua, no change of bus was involved. It was the same on the way back.

[Tempoecorto]

I have observed that every chica who is upstairs in Classico disco gets there by walking up the stairs, and that all who leave do so by walking down the stairs or going head first. Therefore by stategically positioning yourself at the corner of the Merengue Bar near the foot of the staircase and the ticket office for the Classico disco, you can intercept any chica planning to go up the disco and save her 200 pesos, which is $5, by wiggling your nose, grabbing your crotch like Michael Jackson, and saying "Ficky ficky mil pesos?" or whatever is your most seductive line of chat.Sensible advice. I second that. Actually there are others who do that. Position themselves strategically, grab their drinks and stare at the stairs and do the seductive line, if they found their paramour for the night.

Oh, Loved the Michael Jackson bit. White gloves though! LOL.

[Frannie]

I took a Sosua direct from Santiago in September - 9.00 AM if I recall. The bus stopped at Puerto Plata at the terminal and then continued on to Sosua, no change of bus was involved. It was the same on the way back.Sometimes they change to airport shuttle size buses at Puerto Plata, and sometimes the big buses go on to Sosua. It might have to do with how many tickets have been sold, I don't know.

[Uzinuzin]

Originally Posted by Tempoecorto
I took a Sosua direct from Santiago in September - 9.00 AM if I recall. The bus stopped at Puerto Plata at the terminal and then continued on to Sosua, no change of bus was involved. It was the same on the way back.


Sometimes they change to airport shuttle size buses at Puerto Plata, and sometimes the big buses go on to Sosua. It might have to do with how many tickets have been sold, I don't know.

Thanks for the replies. Yes, I have also seen both the small shuttle ones and the large buses parked at their Sosua Metro station (next to the gas station). So some come straight and some don't.

I was just trying to find out if there's a specific service (pain to drag luggage and change bus. And delay). But as you say it might not have to do with the service but number of passengers. I think I might just give them a ring.

[BoricuaOnline]

Frannie's opinion about buses makes sense and should be the correct answer. Changing buses takes just a couple of minutes, no big deal and it gives you time to go to the bath or buy some drinks or food in the bus station.

[BoricuaOnline]

It is Monday, my last morning in Sosua, already bought a Metro bus ticket back to Santo Domingo. 380 pesos. My bus leaves at 1:20 pm After a succulent breakfast buffet at Sosua Bay, I decided to have a last adventure in Sosua so I walked the streets in search of early bird chicas. Just after a couple of minutes I saw the chica I was with last night, the chica from Moca, she was wearing mini short jeans, a white shirt, the same high heels pink shoes from yesterday night. She was with another guy. She saw me and looks a little ashamed but continued walking I believe to hotel Central. I continued walking the Sosua streets but there was not much early in a morning on Monday. I spent my last couple of hours in the hotel drinking beers and eating their tasty hamburgers. It was 1:20 pm when I said goodbye to Sosua.

I liked Sosua a lot, I had not bad experiences but I believe the ingredients for danger are present there, maybe I am over cautious or lucky because I have never had any major problem in the D. R. In a couple of dozen trips I have had. Most girls are for sure not problematic, but I sensed there are a few who will cause you hard times, as for example the girl I described as the poison chica in previous reports. She went to me with not a nice attitude in Classicos because I did not called her. I talk to the chicas before taking a decision, sometimes more than once.

Some tourist do not behave well. There was an overweight guy in El Flow yelling and making noises, he was like crazy, maybe excited, drunk or drugged. A guy was flashing a big wad of money in Classicos, not a good idea. The guys at the exchange casas were offering 38 pesos per dollar. I got 38. 75 at Franks in Santo Domingo, thankfully I changed enough money in Franks. Once I said no to the 38 per peso offering they raised the offer to 38. 50 in just seconds. Thieves! The girls told me Sosua is a dangerous place, not referring to el Batey were most hotels are but to Sosua in general, including the barrios and surrounding areas. Traffic accidents occur with a relatively high frecuency in the main road, the Badoo chica I dated twice told me of an accident in the road from Puerto Plata to Sosua, there were a couple ambulances. More than half of the accidents involve motoconchos.

My experience at El Rancho was good. I also like that electricity never went off in Sosua during my stay. I did not visit La Pasion, I never found the place but it was not necessary. There were plenty of freelancers that satisfied my needs. I do not see many Haitians freelancers, I believe 9 out of 10 at least were Dominicans. Maybe the 'Hello, massages' girls from the massage parlors were mostly Haitians.

I asked a couple of chicas about the Rockys world famous ribs. They know nothing about the world famous ribs. Maybe they are world famous ribs but not Sosua famous ribs. I will travel to some countries around the world asking for the Rockys world famous ribs.

Sosua is a good place to visit with a fellow monger, can be funnier than traveling alone.

[Tempoecorto]

I asked a couple of chicas about the Rockys world famous ribs. They know nothing about the world famous ribs. Maybe they are world famous ribs but not Sosua famous ribs. I will travel to some countries around the world asking for the Rockys world famous ribs.

Enjoyed reading your reports thoroughly - here and the SD forum and in particular, enjoyed your sense of humor. Let us know when you have found connoisseurs of Rockys ribs across the globe! LOL.

[Gagoo]

The bus that leaves from Santo Domingo to Sosua make stops in Santiago and Puerto Plata. The bus, which is very large can not fit into the small Metro bus station in Sosua so we have to change to a smaller one.I took the Metrobus from Santo Domingo yesterday. It stopped in Santiago for maybe 10 minutes, then it stopped in POP for a few minutes, then it stopped in Sosua.

I didn't have to get off the large bus at all. I should have planned better though. Some taxi guy said just show up at the station and buy a ticket.

I was assuming it left SDQ every hour or so like the Caribe bus does. I took the Caribe bus from SDQ to Sosua about 4 months ago.

I showed up to the Metrobus station a little before 1PM. I think a bus was about to leave but they didn't give me a ticket for it. They gave me a ticket for 4PM.

I was thinking to myself."damn. Big dummy!" I called Jao and he said take a taxi to his hotel and I could hang out there for awhile, so it wasn't so bad.

But anyways, the same big bus went from Santo Domingo to Sosua. I took some GPS marks on my iPhone at the all of the Metrobus stops of anyone needs them. I was somehow lost and disorientated when I got to Sosua even though I looked at my iPhone map. I agreed for a taxi to take me to the New Garden for 150 pesos. I thought that was cheap.

After he drove about 30 seconds I realized where I was and I was like damn! I could have walked to the New Garden in a few minutes. But I do have a fairly large suitcase, so, walking down the street past the chicas with a big suitcase and back pack isn't the sort of attention I like.

[SavePros321]

It is Monday, my last morning in Sosua, already bought a Metro bus ticket back to Santo Domingo. 380 pesos. My bus leaves at 1:20 pm After a succulent breakfast buffet at Sosua Bay, I decided to have a last adventure in Sosua so I walked the streets in search of early bird chicas. Just after a couple of minutes I saw the chica I was with last night, the chica from Moca, she was wearing mini short jeans, a white shirt, the same high heels pink shoes from yesterday night. She was with another guy. She saw me and looks a little ashamed but continued walking I believe to hotel Central. I continued walking the Sosua streets but there was not much early in a morning on Monday. I spent my last couple of hours in the hotel drinking beers and eating their tasty hamburgers. It was 1:20 pm when I said goodbye to Sosua.A good tactic is to fill your phone with phone numbers of potential lays. Those girls you felt up in Clasicos your first night could have been potentials, LOL. You should have just gotten all of their numbers so that you could have options on your last day.

I usually leave Sosua on Sundays and I have never flown out of there before banging my last chica on Sunday mornings. They are usually just right down the street in Charamicos (unless they are with a guy from the previous night; which is why you should get multiple numbers). Usually I do TLN on Saturday night so that I have a Sunday morning lay, but on a couple occasions I have called a chica to come over Sunday morning and get one in before heading to the airport later that afternoon. BUT, it is usually better to do this with a chica you have already banged or had dealings with before on a previous day so that there are no suprises.

[BoricuaOnline]

A good tactic is to fill your phone with phone numbers of potential lays. .I have the poison chica number, the 3some girls number, Spaniard nose chica number, a couple of other chicas numbers. I feel stupid now, LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

I took the Metrobus from Santo Domingo yesterday. It stopped in Santiago for maybe 10 minutes, then it stopped in POP for a few minutes, then it stopped in Sosua.Man clear out your inbox. Trying to send you a PM. Or get my number from Jao. I tried to do that internet thing online but I couldn't. I went to the Claro office and the guy said I have to go back everyday if I want to do it per day. I arrived here in Sosua last night. And which GPS program are you using? I had to download one the other night when I was lost in Zona Colonial but that shit didn't work. I take it you didn't trade phones with that chica the other night.

[Jaosousa]

Man clear out your inbox. Trying to send you a PM. Or get my number from Jao. I tried to do that internet thing online but I couldn't. I went to the Claro office and the guy said I have to go back everyday if I want to do it per day. I arrived here in Sosua last night. And which GPS program are you using? I had to download one the other night when I was lost in Zona Colonial but that shit didn't work. I take it you didn't trade phones with that chica the other night.He got the latest apple iphone from the satin dolls chica, he did the transfer of photos and music with his laptop, as we sat in satin dolls, took about an hour. The map thing (on the iphone) came in handy, when I drove him to the metro station for his trip to sosua, he was able to tell me when to turn.

[Mr Enternational]

I know most of this shit needs to be on the Boca Chica thread but I'm putting it here.

I went scuba diving in Boca Chica yesterday morning. I was supposed to do an afternoon session as well but I said fuck it. I was ready to get up to Sosua. It was only 11:30 so I called up a girl I met on Dominican Cupid the day before who lives in San Pedro de Macoris. She told me it was only 30 minutes from Boca Chica. I wanted to go check out Juan Dolio, which is on the way, anyway. I finally got to San Pedro and called the girl. Now she tells me she lives in a place called Consuelo. What the fuck? There was a lot of me driving around asking people where was Consuelo. We kept calling back and forth with me asking her why she can't just come meet me where I was since this was not my territory. I ended up telling her that I was just going to leave and never call her again. Then I finally found the little town. I parked in front of the health center and told her where I was. She didn't seem to understand so I gave the phone to a motoconcho guy. She finally came up to meet me, her cousin in tow. I asked her what didn't she understand about "Centro de Salud." We went back to her house and I will be damn if it wasn't on the same street as the health center about 1km away. These Dominicans. I fucked around with her for a few minutes but when she rejected my idea of going to a cabana I made an excuse that I had to take my friend to Puerto Plata.

Dammit. On my drive there I saw a nice chica in a blue dress on the side of the highway trying to get a ride. As usual I was driving too fast to stop. I regretted it because she was sexy. So on the way back I saw another chica on the opposite side of the highway. I didn't want to pass up the opportunity to say I have mongered with the chicas on the outskirts of Juan Dolio so I got off at the next exit and turned around. While driving I put all of my valuables up and just kept 400 pesos accessible. I could not remember the going rate for that venue but figured that was enough. She got in the car, total hood rat, and said she was going to San Pedro. I started squeezing on her tits and said well I'm not going that far. I'm on my way up north. She told me to pull off on a dirt road but as usual going to fast again. She pulled my dick out and started sucking it. I saw a road off the highway where it appears they store road construction supplies and went down it to park. This girl gives some smoking head. All of a sudden a dump truck is coming towards us but I let her suck away. I threw up a peace sign as he passed. Then another worker started walking down the road towards the car. I turned around and went another couple hundred meters toward the highway. A couple of minutes later I saw him in my rearview again still walking towards the car. I had to hurry up and blow my load and get the fuck out of there. She took it like a champ. I dropped her off at a gas station and gave her the 400 pesos. She wanted 200 more. I told her that she better get the fuck out with that 400. She tried to give me her number for I don't know what, wanting me to call her the next day. I think it was to bring her 200 more pesos or something. I told her that I would pass.

I hit the road again and stopped for gas at the Shell in Boca Chica. I told the guy to fill it up. It came to 902 and I handed him 1000. Why did this mf act like he didn't owe me any change? After a couple of minutes I had to call him out. He then gave me 50 pesos in coins from the top of the pump. I said that I want all of my change. He gave me 40 more from the same place. Fuck it, I'm already late as hell because I'm trying to beat the darkness so I don't have time for these bullshit games. I let him keep the 8 and I drove off. I got to the entrance of La Samana highway at 4:35. I arrived at the end in Nagua at 5:41. At 7pm darkness caught up with me. I was still a ways from Sosua and had to go down these crazy ass pothole streets in pitch darkness except for dim ass motorcycle lights and Dominicans driving SUVs in both directions with their Hi beams on. I arrived in Sosua at 7:45.

I never make reservations. I just always show up. I went to Sosua Bay and guess what? No rooms! The girl said it usually happens on the weekends. Guys check in on Friday and leave out Sunday. I guess I don't spend many weekends in Sosua. I decided to go over to the Europa and if that didn't work just call one of my girls in Puerto Plata and act like I came early to surprise her and stay at her house. I'm staying there Sunday and Monday anyway so I would just switched my planned Sosua days. Well the Europa had rooms. I paid $90 for 2 nights ($45 per night). They even have wifi in the rooms now and 13 inch flat screen TVs in a 14X16 room. Works for me. I don't watch TV anyway.

[Manizales911]

Enjoyed reading your reports thoroughly - here and the SD forum and in particular, enjoyed your sense of humor. Let us know when you have found connoisseurs of Rockys ribs across the globe! LOL.Just my opinion but the one time I went to Rocky's the food sucked. I went with three other people and we each got something different including the ribs and it was horrible, I thought the ribs were the worst of the four meals and I know a little bit about ribs from once being part owner of a smokehouse / BBQ place.

[Tempoecorto]

So on the way back I saw another chica on the opposite side of the highway. I didn't want to pass up the opportunity to say I have mongered with the chicas on the outskirts of Juan Dolio so I got off at the next exit and turned around. While driving I put all of my valuables up and just kept 400 pesos accessible. I could not remember the going rate for that venue but figured that was enough. She got in the car, total hood rat, and said she was going to San Pedro. I started squeezing on her tits and said well I'm not going that far. I'm on my way up north. She told me to pull off on a dirt road but as usual going to fast again. She pulled my dick out and started sucking it....

I hit the road again and stopped for gas at the Shell in Boca Chica. I told the guy to fill it up. I got to the entrance of La Samana highway at 4:35. I arrived at the end in Nagua at 5:41. At 7pm darkness caught up with me. I was still a ways from Sosua and had to go down these crazy ass pothole streets in pitch darkness except for dim ass motorcycle lights and Dominicans driving SUVs in both directions with their Hi beams on. I arrived in Sosua at 7:45.I enjoyed this one. A) because it was all about sudden impulses and serendipity and be) written the way life unfurled. I also followed the map, to get a feel of the back and forth directions and the driving you did. You drove like hell? Would like to do that trip one time, coming up from santo domingo and go towards las terrenas and who knows how often one can get lucky without planning? LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

Just my opinion but the one time I went to Rocky's the food sucked. I went with three other people and we each got something different including the ribs and it was horrible, I thought the ribs were the worst of the four meals and I know a little bit about ribs from once being part owner of a smokehouse / BBQ place.I usually just come here to Rocky's for the breakfast if I miss the free one at Sosua Bay, but I just got the ribs for the first time because BO mentioned it. I thought they were pretty good. Could have been more meat on the bone, but will repeat.

[SavePros321]

I usually just come here to Rocky's for the breakfast if I miss the free one at Sosua Bay, but I just got the ribs for the first time because BO mentioned it. I thought they were pretty good. Could have been more meat on the bone, but will repeat.Terra Linda's ribs are pretty good as well, although a little more expensive.

@Mani: I guess I am guilty as well. I rarely ever leave Sosua without eating ribs a Rocky's at least twice, LOL. And this is coming from a Texan :D.

BTW: I used to hear that there was a guy that owned a rib place on the beach (black owner, I think) but I never got around to checking the place out. Anyone know if his place is still around?

[You Can]

I agree with you those ribs sucked, honestly I thought they might be dog ribs or something. I would never order them. There chicken is ok but nothing great. Breakfast is ok. But honestly I can't even see eating there. There are better choices.


Just my opinion but the one time I went to Rocky's the food sucked. I went with three other people and we each got something different including the ribs and it was horrible, I thought the ribs were the worst of the four meals and I know a little bit about ribs from once being part owner of a smokehouse / BBQ place.

[BoricuaOnline]

I usually just come here to Rocky's for the breakfast if I miss the free one at Sosua Bay, but I just got the ribs for the first time because BO mentioned it. I thought they were pretty good. Could have been more meat on the bone, but will repeat.I tried the ribs from El Cultivo, not meaty not good. So Rockys ribs are another forum famous ribs then.

[Manizales911]

Terra Linda's ribs are pretty good as well, although a little more expensive.

@Mani: I guess I am guilty as well. I rarely ever leave Sosua without eating ribs a Rocky's at least twice, LOL. And this is coming from a Texan.

BTW: I used to hear that there was a guy that owned a rib place on the beach (black owner, I think) but I never got around to checking the place out. Anyone know if his place is still around?Okay SavePro, I'll have to give Rocky's another try based on your and Mr. E's experiences. I'll have to try their breakfast too, many have said they do a good breakfast.

Though you couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda I have to give the devil their due,the food in their restaurant is top notch although pricey.

[Gagoo]

Man clear out your inbox. Trying to send you a PM. Or get my number from Jao. I tried to do that internet thing online but I couldn't. I went to the Claro office and the guy said I have to go back everyday if I want to do it per day. I arrived here in Sosua last night. And which GPS program are you using? I had to download one the other night when I was lost in Zona Colonial but that shit didn't work. I take it you didn't trade phones with that chica the other night.Oopps. I didn't know. I'll PM you and ask Jao too. I had used data from Claro and the built in Google maps on the iPhone. I'll had to play around with the Claro website to get the.

Data at 200MB a day for 64 pesos.

[Mr Enternational]

BTW: I used to hear that there was a guy that owned a rib place on the beach (black owner, I think) but I never got around to checking the place out. Anyone know if his place is still around?Big D's. A guy told me about it a couple of times ago but I haven't been able to get a sample yet. Usually when I am on the beach his place his closed. I think it is only open certain days. As Murphy's Law would have it, as soon as I left Rocky's and went to the beach he was out cooking and all the tables were filled. Maybe I will check it out tomorrow before I leave for Puerto Plata.

[Gagoo]

Anyone see the well known chica Hennessy or her sister lately? I saw her last Sept-Oct in Classico's. But I haven't seen her here the last days.

Both of their numbers don't work either. I want to make passionate love to her again and propose for marriage.

Yeah, that's the best Photoshop I could do on a Macbook Air with no mouse. LOL

[Wrx2005]

It was only 11:30 so I called up a girl I met on Dominican Cupid the day before who lives in San Pedro de Macoris. She told me it was only 30 minutes from Boca Chica. I wanted to go check out Juan Dolio, which is on the way, anyway. I finally got to San Pedro and called the girl. Now she tells me she lives in a place called Consuelo. What the fuck? There was a lot of me driving around asking people where was Consuelo. We kept calling back and forth with me asking her why she can't just come meet me where I was since this was not my territory. I ended up telling her that I was just going to leave and never call her again. Then I finally found the little town. I parked in front of the health center and told her where I was. She didn't seem to understand so I gave the phone to a motoconcho guy. She finally came up to meet me, her cousin in tow. I asked her what didn't she understand about "Centro de Salud." We went back to her house and I will be damn if it wasn't on the same street as the health center about 1km away. These Dominicans. I fucked around with her for a few minutes but when she rejected my idea of going to a cabana I made an excuse that I had to take my friend to Puerto Plata.

Dammit.Yo bro, for the record was the girl you went to see named Wendy? I had a similar experience with a Dominican Cupid chica. Can I ask you something? Why are we bothering with internet dating sites and traveling to meet women, when we can just stay in Sosua and meet fine ass women who are down for p4p? I rented a car in Sosua, drove all the way to SD with my buddy to meet a chica at the Tropical restaurant on the Malecon. Chica was fine, but she did not plan to stay with me in my hotel. She also didn't set aside plans for my visit it seems. I was supposed to stay 2 nights, I ended up saying fuck it like you and chose to head back to Sosua. Meanwhile chica got free meals and gifts. On top of that, I gave her some dinero so she could travel to Sosua by taxi and bus. She agreed to go, but flaked on me afterwards.

The whole week in Sosua I had a variety of chicas, some very sexy. So I had to ask myself. What did I expect to gain by driving all the way to SD for one woman? 3 day car rental, gas, tolls, meals, drinks, more meals, gifts, dinero for chicas transpo and no pussy = $400 US and 48hrs time wasted.

Do you know what I could have done with that money, and the time lost? And I didn't have any back up plan in SD like you.

[Mr Enternational]

Why are we bothering with internet dating sites and traveling to meet women, when we can just stay in Sosua and meet fine ass women who are down for p4p?I have used P4P places if I am new on a scene, for back up, just hanging out with the fellas, or if I'm just bored and don't have anything else to do. It is never my primary raison d'etre. My first couple of times in places like Sosua, Rio, Bangkok I used the P4P more, but after I get used to a place and learn my way around, start learning the language, or start living there then most of my time is dedicated to non-pros. I stick a pro in every now and then for good measure.

Last night in Merengue there were plenty of women around, but I chose to talk up the cashier. I called her today and convinced her to let me come over her house. She said okay but only to talk and yadda yadda yadda. She told me she would meet me on the main highway in 30 minutes. You know how that is. So I went to the beach and ordered a coco loco. As soon as my drink came and before I could take one sip she called asking where I was. I told her that I thought she would CALL in 30 minutes, but she was on-time at the meeting spot. That is really unusual. I told her I was on my way and started guzzling my drink. Before I could take 2 swallows one of my non-pros from Puerto Plata called saying she was at the hotel and where was I. She never likes to give me a time and just pops up expecting me to be there. So I called the cashier back and told her that I couldn't make it because my food just came. I rushed to the hotel and knocked off old girl and she went back to work in Puerto Plata.

Not 30 minutes after she left my Sosua non-pro who had the bar on the beach called saying she was finished getting her hair done and was ready to see me. Fuck. So she came over and got knocked off and I fell off to sleep. She kept waking me up and I was getting pissed. I finally woke up at 11:20 and we went to get food (well I ate; she said it was too late for her to be eating) across from the discos. Her daughter kept calling wondering where she was because she is never out that late; she is a church girl. I took her home and went back to Merengue. I apologized to the cashier and told her I would come tomorrow. She said there are not any second chances. I said yes there are. So I will call her before I leave Sosua and try to make it over there.

I didn't plan on bringing anything back to the hotel because I have to recharge my batteries. Tomorrow I am going to stay for two days with a non-pro in Puerto Plata and she has already told me that we will have to fuck 5 times / day.

Chica: dime papi me va hacer el amor 5 veces. 5 veces por dia.

Mrenternational x_x_x: como tu quieres. 3 veces normal 2 veces por culo

Chica: jajaja todos los negro quieren el culo

Mrenternational x_x_x: te gusta?

Chica: soy una perra en la cama claro.

After that I am off to see my main girl in Santiago. I will fit in one more chica that I already know and try to meet up with 2 new ones. Then it is back to Santo Domingo for my last day. I'm supposed to meet one new chica, see my new main girl there again, and I'm actually supposed to stay over my girl's house who works in immigration. I met her years ago when I was leaving out. Don't know how all that is going to work out. Forgot one chick has been begging me to come stay with her in Bonao. I told her that I would come stay yesterday but was able to use the excuse that it got dark outside and I didn't want to drive at night so I would just come in a couple of days. I might have to shorten some shit up elsewhere.

So you see for me P4P is low on my priority list.


I rented a car in Sosua, drove all the way to SD with my buddy to meet a chica at the Tropical restaurant on the Malecon. Chica was fine, but she did not plan to stay with me in my hotel. She also didn't set aside plans for my visit it seems. I was supposed to stay 2 nights, I ended up saying fuck it like you and chose to head back to Sosua. Meanwhile chica got free meals and gifts. On top of that, I gave her some dinero so she could travel to Sosua by taxi and bus. She agreed to go, but flaked on me afterwards.

The whole week in Sosua I had a variety of chicas, some very sexy. So I had to ask myself. What did I expect to gain by driving all the way to SD for one woman? 3 day car rental, gas, tolls, meals, drinks, more meals, gifts, dinero for chicas transpo and no pussy = $400 US and 48hrs time wasted.

Do you know what I could have done with that money, and the time lost? And I didn't have any back up plan in SD like you.Hmmm. Did you ask her before if she was going to be able to stay with you? Most chicas that I know can not because they live with their families or have to get back home to their kids or something. Hell, my ex-girlfriend in SD had her own place and still had to lie to her dad and I could not stay there. Why? Because he was the one paying all the bills. IMHO there is a stark difference between P4P and non-pro territory here.

The first rule of Cupid is to always have a backup. And the second rule is to always have a backup to the backup. And the third rule is to always know where your P4P can be found. Don't go out of your way. A couple of chicks have told me they want to come see me but they don't have the money. I tell them to borrow it from a friend and I will give it back when they get here. One asked if I could send the money. NOT! I'm not the type to wine and dine a woman. If she is not putting out then I am moving on.

My first year in college a friend taught me a true litmus test. When you first meet a girl saying Hello, and shit, try to kiss them on the lips. If they don't do it back or turn their head then they are not interested in you. If they do then they are really ready to fuck you. That has never failed me. The other day in Santo Domingo a girl who I have only known online for at least a couple of years finally was able to come. I tried it on her and she didn't bite. So I knew the deal. She was still helpful though. The battery was dead on my rental car so she called a taxi to come jump it off. Then I needed to go buy a belt because I forgot mine. She took me around to all these stores looking for one. I finally ended up buying one at La Sirena. She was supposed to be at work at 2 but didn't even separate from me until 2:15 after she led me to Las Americas Hwy. So she can be a good friend but she is not ready to give up the panties.

So my new main SD girl who is in law school and sells real estate was supposed to come over my first day. I met her on Cupid the night before I came. She had told me 6:30 and did not even call. When I called her she said something about a meeting running late. It was cool with me because I was out with Jao. This is the P4P backup I was talking about. The girl promised she would come the next day at 6:30 and would make it up to me. The next day she was early. I was half way back from a buddy's house in Boca Chica when she called saying she was at the hotel. I got there and the first thing I did was hug her and try to kiss her in the mouth. She accepted. To make a long story short by 10pm we were fucking. I'll report on that in the SD thread when I get a chance.

So if you stick to the rules you will be alright. I try to caution guys about dating sites anywhere because many times the women are not dependable. If you don't go to the place often or have a very short stay then I would recommend only doing the P4P scene. This is my longest trip. I am here for 9 days this time. I have time to burn so I can afford to gamble with the Cupid site. And I have a car so I can drive around and meet chicks, learn new stuff, and waste all the time I want.

[OldKool]

I hear your points. Casas are like masterbation for me pop and walk. The same is true for the hardcore pros. I use the dating sites but I followup on skype and msn. I get to know them before I hook up. This helps me determine if they are worth my time. The winners are showing me Titas and ass in about a week. This has worked very well for me. The sex is usually better when the chica are comfortable with you. I bring my toys and lubes but I let the ladies know what is up before I meet them. DR chicas seem to be more open to sex. I not trying to fall in love but I enjoy having fun with the girls. Going to discos and casinos with a pretty lady is a blast. Lastly having a backup is always necessary. Your babes period may be on or a million other things can happen. I have a couple of pros who are in my phone who are my amigas. I stay in touch with them and even have drinks with them every now and then. I sort of tease them but if a need a back up they are always ready. Non pros are more complicated but are way more fun.

Having a lady tell you she wants to fuck you all day or fuck her ass really puts a big mile on my face. [

QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1249567]I have used P4P places if I am new on a scene, for back up, just hanging out with the fellas, or if I'm just bored and don't have anything else to do. It is never my primary raison the'etre. My first couple of times in places like Sosua, Rio, Bangkok I used the P4P more, but after I get used to a place and learn my way around, start learning the language, or start living there then most of my time is dedicated to non-pros. I stick a pro in every now and then for good measure.

Last night in Merengue there were plenty of women around, but I chose to talk up the cashier. I called her today and convinced her to let me come over her house. She said okay but only to talk and yadda yadda yadda. She told me she would meet me on the main highway in 30 minutes. You know how that is. So I went to the beach and ordered a coco loco. As soon as my drink came and before I could take one sip she called asking where I was. I told her that I thought she would CALL in 30 minutes, but she was on-time at the meeting spot. That is really unusual. I told her I was on my way and started guzzling my drink. Before I could take 2 swallows one of my non-pros from Puerto Plata called saying she was at the hotel and where was I. She never likes to give me a time and just pops up expecting me to be there. So I called the cashier back and told her that I couldn't make it because my food just came. I rushed to the hotel and knocked off old girl and she went back to work in Puerto Plata.

Not 30 minutes after she left my Sosua non-pro who had the bar on the beach called saying she was finished getting her hair done and was ready to see me. Fuck. So she came over and got knocked off and I fell off to sleep. She kept waking me up and I was getting pissed. I finally woke up at 11:20 and we went to get food (well I ate; she said it was too late for her to be eating) across from the discos. Her daughter kept calling wondering where she was because she is never out that late; she is a church girl. I took her home and went back to Merengue. I apologized to the cashier and told her I would come tomorrow. She said there are not any second chances. I said yes there are. So I will call her before I leave Sosua and try to make it over there.

I didn't plan on bringing anything back to the hotel because I have to recharge my batteries. Tomorrow I am going to stay for two days with a non-pro in Puerto Plata and she has already told me that we will have to fuck 5 times / day.

Chica: dime papi me va hacer el amor 5 veces. 5 veces por dia.

Mrenternational x_x_x: como tu quieres. 3 veces normal 2 veces por culo

Chica: jajaja todos los negro quieren el culo

Mrenternational x_x_x: te gusta?

Chica: soy una perra en la cama claro.

After that I am off to see my main girl in Santiago. I will fit in one more chica that I already know and try to meet up with 2 new ones. Then it is back to Santo Domingo for my last day. I'm supposed to meet one new chica, see my new main girl there again, and I'm actually supposed to stay over my girl's house who works in immigration. I met her years ago when I was leaving out. Don't know how all that is going to work out. Forgot one chick has been begging me to come stay with her in Bonao. I told her that I would come stay yesterday but was able to use the excuse that it got dark outside and I didn't want to drive at night so I would just come in a couple of days. I might have to shorten some shit up elsewhere.

So you see for me P4P is low on my priority list.

Hmmm. Did you ask her before if she was going to be able to stay with you? Most chicas that I know can not because they live with their families or have to get back home to their kids or something. Hell, my ex-girlfriend in SD had her own place and still had to lie to her dad and I could not stay there. Why? Because he was the one paying all the bills. IMHO there is a stark difference between P4P and non-pro territory here.

The first rule of Cupid is to always have a backup. And the second rule is to always have a backup to the backup. And the third rule is to always know where your P4P can be found. Don't go out of your way. A couple of chicks have told me they want to come see me but they don't have the money. I tell them to borrow it from a friend and I will give it back when they get here. One asked if I could send the money. NOT! I'm not the type to wine and dine a woman. If she is not putting out then I am moving on.

My first year in college a friend taught me a true litmus test. When you first meet a girl saying Hello, and shit, try to kiss them on the lips. If they don't do it back or turn their head then they are not interested in you. If they do then they are really ready to fuck you. That has never failed me. The other day in Santo Domingo a girl who I have only known online for at least a couple of years finally was able to come. I tried it on her and she didn't bite. So I knew the deal. She was still helpful though. The battery was dead on my rental car so she called a taxi to come jump it off. Then I needed to go buy a belt because I forgot mine. She took me around to all these stores looking for one. I finally ended up buying one at La Sirena. She was supposed to be at work at 2 but didn't even separate from me until 2:15 after she led me to Las Americas Hwy. So she can be a good friend but she is not ready to give up the panties.

So my new main SD girl who is in law school and sells real estate was supposed to come over my first day. I met her on Cupid the night before I came. She had told me 6:30 and did not even call. When I called her she said something about a meeting running late. It was cool with me because I was out with Jao. This is the P4P backup I was talking about. The girl promised she would come the next day at 6:30 and would make it up to me. The next day she was early. I was half way back from a buddy's house in Boca Chica when she called saying she was at the hotel. I got there and the first thing I did was hug her and try to kiss her in the mouth. She accepted. To make a long story short by 10pm we were fucking. I'll report on that in the SD thread when I get a chance.

So if you stick to the rules you will be alright. I try to caution guys about dating sites anywhere because many times the women are not dependable. If you don't go to the place often or have a very short stay then I would recommend only doing the P4P scene. This is my longest trip. I am here for 9 days this time. I have time to burn so I can afford to gamble with the Cupid site. And I have a car so I can drive around and meet chicks, learn new stuff, and waste all the time I want.[/QUOTE]

[OldKool]

Any body use a product called black ant, If so does it work.

[BoricuaOnline]

. So I had to ask myself. What did I expect to gain by driving all the way to SD for one woman? 3 day car rental, gas, tolls, meals, drinks, more meals, gifts, dinero for chicas transpo and no pussy = $400 US and 48hrs time wasted.

Do you know what I could have done with that money, and the time lost? And I didn't have any back up plan in SD like you.If you meet a Badoo or Dominican Stupid chica (sorry its Cupid) and you want sex with her it its important to agree to have sex before you make your trip. The girl you met will surely have sex with you after 2 or 3 dates, but we all want it on the first date, we do not have time to waste. I met a Badoo chica from Puerto Plata, we agreed on sex a week before my trip to Sosua and we had sex two consecutive nights.

[Wrx2005]

Any body use a product called black ant, If so does it work.I mentioned Black Ant on IFTC. It helped me immensely. I know it works because in the beginning of my trip to BB & Sosua I wasnt really turned on or felt ready. But after my 1st capsule which was with a regular, I was amazed on how it brought me back to life. Of course I had to try it on random chicas I met in Sosua, and it worked with them too.

Since it did work, I researched and I found a website online from China, and ordered 12 boxes for $3. 50 a box = $42. 00 plus $10 shipping making it $52 Once I get my order, and everything is okay, I will give info on the site.

You get 4 capsules in a box. The place I found in Sosua was making a major profit off of me. He charged me $25 a box, $6. 25 for one capsule. I had a feeling I could get it cheaper but didn't know who else had it, at least in Sosua. Some friends know some places in the town in USA that I live for like $10 a box. So it's been available to me, just didn't know about it.

[Charlie Horse]

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm247434.htm

[Frannie]

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm247434.htmThe report states that it contains (what appears to be) 75 mgs of sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. The beef they have with it is that since it does not correctly identify the ingredients, a person might take it without having the information about contraindications and interactions with other drugs, effects on blood pressure, etc. The best deal I know of is Latino supermarket in Sosua where you can get 4 tablets of 100mgs of generic sildenafil for 100 pesos, which is about US$0. 60 cents per pill. Generic sildenafil is available in all pharmacies in the DR and in many convenience stores. So Black Ant is a ripoff.

[You Can]

Been to Sosua many times, never buy any black ant, especially for the price I heard. Its rediculous. Anyway where is Latino supermarket? Never heard of it. Please give me a landmark, I usually by 50 mg of sildenafil for 100 peso but only get 2 tablets which still isn't bad but would like to know where to get the deal your talking about.

Thanks.


The report states that it contains (what appears to be) 75 mgs of sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. The beef they have with it is that since it does not correctly identify the ingredients, a person might take it without having the information about contraindications and interactions with other drugs, effects on blood pressure, etc. The best deal I know of is Latino supermarket in Sosua where you can get 4 tablets of 100mgs of generic sildenafil for 100 pesos, which is about US$0. 60 cents per pill. Generic sildenafil is available in all pharmacies in the DR and in many convenience stores. So Black Ant is a ripoff.

[Frannie]

Been to Sosua many times, never buy any black ant, especially for the price I heard. Its rediculous. Anyway where is Latino supermarket? Never heard of it. Please give me a landmark, I usually by 50 mg of sildenafil for 100 peso but only get 2 tablets which still isn't bad but would like to know where to get the deal your talking about.

Thanks.Latino Supermarket is on Alejandro Martinez and it is owned by an English guy and his Dominican wife. Here are some directions:

1. Coming from Classico disco walk towards the beach about 2 hundred yards and turn right. You will pass Bailey's restaurant on your left. Keep going straight and you will pass Casa Marina on your left. Keep going past Bologna restaurant on your left. Now go another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Classico disco.

2. Coming from Hotel Europa proceed along Pedro Clissante towards the beach. At Super Super liquor store turn right onto Calle Ayuntamiento. Walk down this street. You will pass the town hall on your right and a good restaurant called Mofongos. Keep going right to the end of the street then turn right in front of Bologna restaurant onto Alejandro Martinez and walk another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Hotel Europa.

3. Mount motoconcho and tell him to take you to Latinos Supermarket on Alejandro Martinez.

You can also buy a box of 96 pills for 1500 pesos, which would be just over 15 pesos per pill. Better than Black Ant.

If you want a cheap place to drink beer there are chairs outside and you can buy cold beer at supermarket price and sit and drink it outside. Personally I don't drink, but a lot of local residents go there in the early evening for a beer.

[Wrx2005]

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm247434.htmMy uneducated guess is, the makers of Viagra or any other product of it's kind don't want anyone or anything cutting in on it's profits. So they encourage the FDA to protect their interests. Even if it means using scare tactics or reinforcing doubt that they should use a product.

[Wrx2005]

The report states that it contains (what appears to be) 75 mgs of sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. The beef they have with it is that since it does not correctly identify the ingredients, a person might take it without having the information about contraindications and interactions with other drugs, effects on blood pressure, etc. The best deal I know of is Latino supermarket in Sosua where you can get 4 tablets of 100mgs of generic sildenafil for 100 pesos, which is about US$0. 60 cents per pill. Generic sildenafil is available in all pharmacies in the DR and in many convenience stores. So Black Ant is a ripoff.Black Ant Male Enhancement.

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Is Sildenafil really the active ingredient in Black Ant? If that is also in Viagra, and approved by the FDA, whats the real problem the FDA has? That safety alert recommended throwing away Black Ant IMO without just reasoning. That alert seems awfully suspicious to me. What about the other ingredients purported to be in the Black Ant formula, and it's supposed benefits? Should we dismiss those too? Sure we could buy Sildenafil alone, but at least with the Black Ant formula there appears to be other ingredients there in each capsule.

[BoricuaOnline]

A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?

[Frannie]

A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?Charamicos is the place you get to if you walk the whole length of Sosua Beach and off the other end of the beach. It is more of a town than a barrio. I have wandered around Charamicos in the day time and found people perfectly friendly and no different from, say, in La Union or Montellano. There are a lot of small businesses there, but no tourist restaurants. Actually it is quite picturesque in parts with narrow lanes and quaint cottages and flowers in the yards, bougainvillea growing up the walls, etc. There is a place where you can rent rooms right next to the beach. I think the landlady is German.

What happens there at night I do not know. I believe the inhabitants all turn into vampires. I suppose any place is potentially dangerous at night, and the reach of the Tourist Police does not extend to Charamicos, but I have not heard of anything happening to anyone who went there.

The east end of Sosua is quite picturesque with some high class beach homes, quiet lanes, green fields etc. If you go up past the Playa Chiquita Casino. At Voramar Hotel there is the tennis club with 4 courts. Coming closer to town are some of the outlying hotels that you don't see discussed much on this board, and some smaller bars and restaurants, some of them German, and a couple of laundries. If you are leaving the center and go past Dr. Rosen there are several banks including ScotiaBank, which has a good ATM where you can get 10, 000 pesos, Super Super liquor store, a colmado that is open very late at night, maybe all night, a couple of Dominican and / or creole restaurants, an Emergency Clinic, a couple of restaurants like La Planchera and the New Cafe where you can get excellent breakfasts and good dinners too. In Calle Ayuntamiento is the 24 hour restaurant. Next to the New Cafe is the CMP Nightclub and brothel, and then you go a bit further to La Passion. Otherwise there is not much to see unless you are into chickens, goats, dogs.

[Mr Gogo]

A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?Do not go to Charmicos at night. That's where I had my incident at the barrito place with los Dominicanos. It's a heavy seedy drug area. I have played Dominos there during the day with no problem but night time is not safe. La Union and Mantellano has gringos that actually live there with girls, and we are more excepted. If you ever catch Carib tours to Sosua, the station is in Charmicos.

[Llttf]

Charamicos is the place you get to if you walk the whole length of Sosua Beach and off the other end of the beach. It is more of a town than a barrio. I have wandered around Charamicos in the day time and found people perfectly friendly and no different from, say, in La Union or Montellano. There are a lot of small businesses there, but no tourist restaurants. Actually it is quite picturesque in parts with narrow lanes and quaint cottages and flowers in the yards, bougainvillea growing up the walls, etc. There is a place where you can rent rooms right next to the beach. I think the landlady is German.

What happens there at night I do not know. I believe the inhabitants all turn into vampires. I suppose any place is potentially dangerous at night, and the reach of the Tourist Police does not extend to Charamicos, but I have not heard of anything happening to anyone who went there.

The east end of Sosua is quite picturesque with some high class beach homes, quiet lanes, green fields etc. If you go up past the Playa Chiquita Casino. At Voramar Hotel there is the tennis club with 4 courts. Coming closer to town are some of the outlying hotels that you don't see discussed much on this board, and some smaller bars and restaurants, some of them German, and a couple of laundries. If you are leaving the center and go past Dr. Rosen there are several banks including ScotiaBank, which has a good ATM where you can get 10, 000 pesos, Super Super liquor store, a colmado that is open very late at night, maybe all night, a couple of Dominican and / or creole restaurants, an Emergency Clinic, a couple of restaurants like La Planchera and the New Cafe where you can get excellent breakfasts and good dinners too. In Calle Ayuntamiento is the 24 hour restaurant. Next to the New Cafe is the CMP Nightclub and brothel, and then you go a bit further to La Passion. Otherwise there is not much to see unless you are into chickens, goats, dogs.Couple of good posts Frannie, detailed and accurate information.

[Uzinuzin]

4x 100mg sildenafil at 100 pesos (and 96 at 1500 pesos) sounds too cheap to believe! Even sugar pills made in China / India and imported all the way accross the ocean should cost more than that. Unless they are made locally. , . , . ! LOL

[You Can]

Thanks my man, your directions seem a little strange but I know where Baileys is and Casa Marina. If I left Classico Disco as a landmark, I would make a left out of Classico, walk pass Flow, make a left at corner, walk pass new garden and make a right at the corner and I would pass Casa Marina on my left and a basefall field on my right and continue on and place is on my left. Also on the right is a doctor clinic I went to once when I was bit by a centepeade that fucked my whole trip up and turned my calf black. I would never pass baileys but now I follow you, you are making a right out of Classico. Thank you very much, I am going to check this out. I will say you know your way around Sosua no dought. Thanks Again for your help.


Latino Supermarket is on Alejandro Martinez and it is owned by an English guy and his Dominican wife. Here are some directions:

1. Coming from Classico disco walk towards the beach about 2 hundred yards and turn right. You will pass Bailey's restaurant on your left. Keep going straight and you will pass Casa Marina on your left. Keep going past Bologna restaurant on your left. Now go another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Classico disco.

2. Coming from Hotel Europa proceed along Pedro Clissante towards the beach. At Super Super liquor store turn right onto Calle Ayuntamiento. Walk down this street. You will pass the town hall on your right and a good restaurant called Mofongos. Keep going right to the end of the street then turn right in front of Bologna restaurant onto Alejandro Martinez and walk another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Hotel Europa.

3. Mount motoconcho and tell him to take you to Latinos Supermarket on Alejandro Martinez.

You can also buy a box of 96 pills for 1500 pesos, which would be just over 15 pesos per pill. Better than Black Ant.

If you want a cheap place to drink beer there are chairs outside and you can buy cold beer at supermarket price and sit and drink it outside. Personally I don't drink, but a lot of local residents go there in the early evening for a beer.

[Hillbilly69]

Thanks my man, your directions seem a little strange but I know where Baileys is and Casa Marina. If I left Classico Disco as a landmark, I would make a left out of Classico, walk pass Flow, make a left at corner, walk pass new garden and make a right at the corner and I would pass Casa Marina on my left and a basefall field on my right and continue on and place is on my left. Also on the right is a doctor clinic I went to once when I was bit by a centepeade that fucked my whole trip up and turned my calf black. I would never pass baileys but now I follow you, you are making a right out of Classico. Thank you very much, I am going to check this out. I will say you know your way around Sosua no dought. Thanks Again for your help.Look on the map. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae&msa=0

[D Life]

You need a novia. That will save you big on pussy and posible cook and shop for you. Posible take bus trips to other places to sport fuck. Most towns have cabanas. 1500 is a start but buying the sex is the wild card. I think you can build relation ships with different chicas.Very well put. I have relationships all over the north coast and these are not working girls (I will rather call then friends with benefits). Anytime I am in the country they take good care of me I buy little things for them and gifts for the kids when I am there. After a while going after pros gets old and you will then start looking for connection. Only problem is that I am connected to more than one. I don't promise any exclusivity and they know it. But you will be amazed at what a little Spanish, a little kindness, a sense of humor and decency will do for you with the ladies out here in the DR.

[Frannie]

4x 100mg sildenafil at 100 pesos (and 96 at 1500 pesos) sounds too cheap to believe! Even sugar pills made in China / India and imported all the way accross the ocean should cost more than that. Unless they are made locally. , . , . ! LOLActually it is 975 pesos for a box of 96, so I was wrong. I love it when people call me a liar and I can prove them wrong. I posted a photograph of the advertisement on this board only a few weeks ago and you can see it here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1516-Photo-Gallery/page4

The reason I posted this was because to the best of my knowledge this Indian generic viagra is the best deal in Sosua and I thought it would be of interest to readers of this board.

[Frannie]

Thanks my man, your directions seem a little strange but I know where Baileys is and Casa Marina. If I left Classico Disco as a landmark, I would make a left out of Classico, walk pass Flow, make a left at corner, walk pass new garden and make a right at the corner and I would pass Casa Marina on my left and a basefall field on my right and continue on and place is on my left. Also on the right is a doctor clinic I went to once when I was bit by a centepeade that fucked my whole trip up and turned my calf black. I would never pass baileys but now I follow you, you are making a right out of Classico. Thank you very much, I am going to check this out. I will say you know your way around Sosua no dought. Thanks Again for your help.Yes, you could go either way, but I included Bailey's because a lot of people already know where it is.Your preferred route might save 50 yards.

[You Can]

I should not have used the word strange, just a little longer route, but it doesn't matter I really appreciate it. I just got confused for a second! I can tell you know Sosua and thats whats important, not only that but you share your knowledge which is great. I try to give back as much as possible. Thats what makes these boards so nice. I go to Cartagena Colombia many times per year so know it pretty well. I use to go to Sosua more often years ago and am heading there this Sunday, so I will check out some of the stuff you mentioned. Thanks Again.


Yes, you could go either way, but I included Bailey's because a lot of people already know where it is

[Mr Enternational]

Its just a neighborhood. There is really no reason to go there unless you are visiting someone.


A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Its just a neighborhood. There is really no reason to go there unless you are visiting someone.I disagree, you can fish out some of the regular working girls, local girls, have a beer with the locals, a good plate of food for 120-150pesos. I've been introduced to many of my motoconcho friends nieces, cousins etc etc, very cute regular girls who where all smiles when I asked them if they would like to go out dancing. Most of the times I would get lucky and can call them to go out anytime I'm in town.

The putas you see walking around would love to come home with you the go back to their room with no AC and sleep 4 to a room. I recommend a scooter or moto though. Its relatively safe. Charamicos, Sosua Abajo and Maranata!

[Tempoecorto]

Very well put. I have relationships all over the north coast and these are not working girls (I will rather call then friends with benefits). Anytime I am in the country they take good care of me I buy little things for them and gifts for the kids when I am there. After a while going after pros gets old and you will then start looking for connection. Only problem is that I am connected to more than one. I don't promise any exclusivity and they know it. But you will be amazed at what a little Spanish, a little kindness, a sense of humor and decency will do for you with the ladies out here in the DR.The human connection! You essentially summarized in your last sentence, what some of us are looking for (compared to keeping scores) going to the D. R.

[Tempoecorto]

I disagree, you can fish out some of the regular working girls, local girls, have a beer with the locals, a good plate of food for 120-150pesos. I've been introduced to many of my motoconcho friends nieces, cousins etc etc, very cute regular girls who where all smiles when I asked them if they would like to go out dancing. Most of the times I would get lucky and can call them to go out anytime I'm in town.Frannie's details (not to mention his wry humor with vampires) and your endorsement makes me feel that the exploration is definitely worth the while, if nothing else, because it might be far from the madding crowd, all the while sitting in Sosua.

Frannie had a bike and he would go exploring the town and my first ever trip to Sosua (and to the D. R) , I was too green to try this but "youcan"'s report might be interesting to read if he actually ventures out.

[Mr Gogo]

Frannie's details (not to mention his wry humor with vampires) and your endorsement makes me feel that the exploration is definitely worth the while, if nothing else, because it might be far from the madding crowd, all the while sitting in Sosua.

Frannie had a bike and he would go exploring the town and my first ever trip to Sosua (and to the D. R) , I was too green to try this but "youcan"'s report might be interesting to read if he actually ventures out.Just follow the basic rules, I developed a comfort zone and had to be reminded.

1) At night go with a respected Dominican that lives there.

2) The later it gets increases danger.

3) If driving, do quick girl pickups and dropoffs.

4) don't wear jewelry, or carry a bulky wallet.

5) Remember they don't like Americans unless you are spending money.

MHL speaks Spanish and doesn't look gringo, so he gets a pass that most people won't. Go Heat! LOL.

[Tempoecorto]

Just follow the basic rules, I developed a comfort zone and had to be reminded.......
MHL speaks Spanish and doesn't look gringo, so he gets a pass that most people won't. Go Heat! LOL.Makes complete sense! However, I was thinking of a daytime jaunt rather than a night time (wo)manhunt. :-)

[Uzinuzin]

Actually it is 975 pesos for a box of 96, so I was wrong. I love it when people call me a liar and I can prove them wrong. I posted a photograph of the advertisement on this board only a few weeks ago and you can see it here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1516-Photo-Gallery/page4

The reason I posted this was because to the best of my knowledge this Indian generic viagra is the best deal in Sosua and I thought it would be of interest to readers of this board.You get offers for any old rubbish in that town, it doesn't mean it's the real thing and it works. I think you got a few replies on that thread too when you put up the ad and mention the prices. 100mg pills at 10 pesos each are probably sugar pills maybe with a few real ones thrown in as goodwill . Though if it works for you, that is great, enjoy it!

(BTW, I appreciate you are just reporting this, you are not the one selling them. I'm just pointing out, like everything else, if it's too good to be true, watch out.)

[Frannie]

you get offers for any old rubbish in that town, it doesn't mean it's the real thing and it works. i think you got a few replies on that thread too when you put up the ad and mention the prices. 100mg pills at 10 pesos each are probably sugar pills maybe with a few real ones thrown in as goodwill. though if it works for you, that is great, enjoy it!

(btw, i appreciate you are just reporting this, you are not the one selling them. i'm just pointing out, like everything else, if it's too good to be true, watch out.) yawn! they are generic sildenafil made in the dr by ibero farmacos, sa, who import, produce, manufacture and market a wide range of generic drugs available in pharmacies in the dr, such as blood pressure drugs, diabetic drugs, erectile dysfunction drugs, antibiotics, anti-inflammatory drugs, birth control pills. if you want you can get their mailing address, fax number, or e-mail address from the link provided and contact them to let them know that you an highly placed executive with a major international pharmacy company and you are in on the secret that they are running a criminal enterprise and that all their pills are sugar, as your studies have shown that it would be economically impossible to produce real medication for the prices they charge. i am sure they will be highly amused.

anyway if sugar pills work just as good as generic sildenafil, then i am all for sugar pills. why spend your money on viagra if sugar works just as well?

http://iberofarmacos.com.do/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=1&itemid=16

now give some examples of fraudulent offers for products that you have detected in sosua as mentioned in your first sentence. that should not be too hard and it will help all of us to avoid being cheated in the future and we will be able to benefit from your expertise in this matter.

just out of interest, for those who read spanish, this is what the company claims about what they are selling:


sildenafil 100 mg

via de adiministración: oral
cada tableta contiene: citrato de sildenafil 100 mg
excipiente c.s.p. 1 tableta


indicaciones: tratamiento de la disfunsión erectil.
posologia: adultos (rango 25-100 mg, según tolerancia y eficacia). ancianos, insuficiencia renal grave, insuficiencia hepática leve o moderada: dosis inicial 25 mg, que pueden incrementarse a 50-100 mg, según eficacia y tolerancia. normas para la correcta administración: tomar de 15 minutos a 1 hora antes de la relación sexual. los alimentos retrasan el comienzo de la acción.


contraindicaciones: asociación con nitratos (hay potenciación de efectos hipotensores), hombres en los que la actividad sexual esté desaconsejada (ej: cardiopatías graves). no se ha estudiado la seguridad de sildenafil en los siguientes pacientes, estando, por tanto, su uso, desaconsejado: insuficiencia hepática grave, hipotensión (<90/50 mmhg), historia reciente de accidente isquémico cerebral o infarto de miocardio, alteraciones retinianas de origen hereditario, como retinitis pigmentaria (una minoría de estos pacientes tienen alteración de las fosfodiesterasas de la retina).


precauciones: hipotensión: sildenafil produce disminución de la presión arterial (según algunos estudios relacionada con la dosis). la hipotensión puede ser especialmente peligrosa cuando se asocia a nitratos. deformidades anatómicas del pene (enfermedad de peyronie, fibrosis cavernaria) o predisposición al priapismo (ej: anemia falciforme, mieloma múltiple o leucemia). estos pacientes deberán consultar al urólogo la idoneidad del tratamiento. trastornos hemorrágicos o úlcera péptica activa: se desconoce el efecto de sildenafil en estos pacientes. se ha observado in vitro que sildenafil aumenta los efectos antiagregantes plaquetarios del nitroprusiato sódico. situaciones especiales: advertir al paciente que sildenafil puede producir mareos y trastornos visuales.

principio activo: sildenafil 100 mg
acción terapéutica: tratamiento de la disfunsión erectil

[You Can]

well put my man!


yawn! they are generic sildenafil made in the dr by ibero farmacos, sa, who import, produce, manufacture and market a wide range of generic drugs available in pharmacies in the dr, such as blood pressure drugs, diabetic drugs, erectile dysfunction drugs, antibiotics, anti-inflammatory drugs, birth control pills. if you want you can get their mailing address, fax number, or e-mail address from the link provided and contact them to let them know that you an highly placed executive with a major international pharmacy company and you are in on the secret that they are running a criminal enterprise and that all their pills are sugar, as your studies have shown that it would be economically impossible to produce real medication for the prices they charge. i am sure they will be highly amused.

anyway if sugar pills work just as good as generic sildenafil, then i am all for sugar pills. why spend your money on viagra if sugar works just as well?

http://iberofarmacos.com.do/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=1&itemid=16

now give some examples of fraudulent offers for products that you have detected in sosua as mentioned in your first sentence. that should not be too hard and it will help all of us to avoid being cheated in the future and we will be able to benefit from your expertise in this matter.

just out of interest, for those who read spanish, this is what the company claims about what they are selling:

sildenafil 100 mg.

via de adiministracióand: oral.

cada tableta contiene: citrato de sildenafil 100 mg.

excipiente c. s. p. 1 tableta.

indicaciones: tratamiento de la disfunsióand erectil.

posologia: adultos (rango 25-100 mg, segúand tolerancia why eficacia). ancianos, insuficiencia renal grave, insuficiencia hepática leve o moderada: dosis inicial 25 mg, que pueden incrementarse a 50-100 mg, segúand eficacia why tolerancia. normas para la correcta administracióand: tomar de 15 minutos a 1 hora antes de la relacióand sexual. los alimentos retrasan el comienzo de la accióand.

contraindicaciones: asociacióand con nitratos (hay potenciacióand de efectos hipotensores) , hombres en los que la actividad sexual esté desaconsejada (ej: cardiopatías graves). no se ha estudiado la seguridad de sildenafil en los siguientes pacientes, estando, por tanto, su uso, desaconsejado: insuficiencia hepática grave, hipotensióand (<90/50 mmhg) , historia reciente de accidente isquémico cerebral o infarto de miocardio, alteraciones retinianas de origen hereditario, como retinitis pigmentaria (una minoría de estos pacientes tienen alteracióand de las fosfodiesterasas de la retina).

precauciones: hipotensióand: sildenafil produce disminucióand de la presióand arterial (segúand algunos estudios relacionada con la dosis). la hipotensióand puede ser especialmente peligrosa cuando se asocia a nitratos. deformidades anatómicas del pene (enfermedad de peyronie, fibrosis cavernaria) o predisposicióand al priapismo (ej: anemia falciforme, mieloma múltiple o leucemia). estos pacientes deberáand consultar al yourólogo la idoneidad del tratamiento. trastornos hemorrágicos o úlcera péptica activa: se desconoce el efecto de sildenafil en estos pacientes. se ha observado in vitro que sildenafil aumenta los efectos antiagregantes plaquetarios del nitroprusiato sódico. situaciones especiales: advertir al paciente que sildenafil puede producir mareos why trastornos visuales.

principio activo: sildenafil 100 mg.

accióand terapéutica: tratamiento de la disfunsióand erectil

[MetcalfKieth]

Just like to say thank you to everybody who answered my question from last week. This is a fantastic site with plenty of people using it, unlike the forum that I used before with 1 report a month, I will be paying my subscription now and look forward to speaking to you all.

Thanks

[Uzinuzin]

Frannie; what a detailed, informative, long post, I'm totally convinced! You sure work hard for something you have no interest or connection to what-so-ever, just for the sake of providing information to board members! I suggest you do some work for all those online pills offerings and make some money in the process. You are great.

I was wondering why Jaosousa was giving you so much stick in the other thread, but I see you have a strange biased attitude towards certain things. In comparison to an impartial poster.

I'm sure, hope, people will make up their own minds and decide if they should buy 10 pesos viagra pills from corner shops. Let's leave it at that.

[Frannie]

Frannie; what a detailed, informative, long post, I'm totally convinced!Phew! It took a lot of work. Now that you are fixed up with some viagra, you will be needing a chica. Try not to overpay.

[Bumwajob]

I just spent a few days in Sosua. I did alot of drinking. I guess I was taking too long for some chicas. Two of them offered me barebacks if I promised to pull out. I know this is not smart but is it common?

[Donbernardo]

Well it depends, maybe your the only guy that they like SO much that they offer it to you.

Just don't forget to get the checkup when your home. Cause usually us guys don't notice shit, but your regular girl might have some itches a few weeks later.


I just spent a few days in Sosua. I did alot of drinking. I guess I was taking too long for some chicas. Two of them offered me barebacks if I promised to pull out. I know this is not smart but is it common?

[You Can]

Yea its common, most of them are fucking without condoms down there. Last year almost everone wanted to fuck with out one. If you tell them know they jump on. Simple as that.


I just spent a few days in Sosua. I did alot of drinking. I guess I was taking too long for some chicas. Two of them offered me barebacks if I promised to pull out. I know this is not smart but is it common?

[SavePros321]

Yea its common, most of them are fucking without condoms down there. Last year almost everone wanted to fuck with out one. If you tell them know they jump on. Simple as that.You Can, I am sure you are a great guy in person, but you are the same guy that was bragging about driving "drunk as a motherfucker" in the Puerto Plata forum when you are in the DR (in the form of giving advice to another monger in that forum). Then I see you post this as advice to Bumwajob.

What is the correlation between guys wanting to do reckless shit when away from home?

Don't want to turn this into a "safe sex" discussion, but if you see reckless individuals encouraging reckless behavior, then it should tell you something. But I understand everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is, so I digress...

Just keep in mind, unlike places like Blackbeard's or La Passion, Sosua chicas are NOT required to get tested every month.

[Kman1]

you can, i am sure you are a great guy in person, but you are the same guy that was bragging about driving "drunk as a motherfucker" in the puerto plata forum when you are in the dr (in the form of giving advice to another monger in that forum). then i see you post this as advice to bumwajob.

what is the correlation between guys wanting to do reckless shit when away from home?

don't want to turn this into a "safe sex" discussion, but if you see reckless individuals encouraging reckless behavior, then it should tell you something. but i understand everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is, so i digress.

just keep in mind, unlike places like blackbeard's or la passion, sosua chicas are not required to get tested every month.you live and you learn. during my younger days i thought i was a great drunk driver too. i could easily make those aggressive moves and cuts on the highways, drive without inhibition. i was clearly agitated when i got my first dui. felt i was wronged, the cop just stopped me for speeding a little over, not that i was reckless or anything worse. after dealing with the consequences of that dui and driving almost always sober for many years i can clearly tell the difference now even if i drive after having just one or two drinks which is the max when i am out. i personally feel there is no excuse for someone to get a second or multiple duis.

that apart, getting back to the point, condom or not is entirely a personal choice between consenting adults. and there ends the discussion. and i guess that is the isg policy too. i have made some comments in earlier posts on these lines but never ridiculed anyone.

it is good to educate people about what is out there, and testing practices like you just did, savepros. i would nominate you for "role model among mongers" award. lol.

[SavePros321]

you live and you learn. during my younger days i thought i was a great drunk driver too. i could easily make those aggressive moves and cuts on the highways, drive without inhibition. i was clearly agitated when i got my first dui. felt i was wronged, the cop just stopped me for speeding a little over, not that i was reckless or anything worse. after dealing with the consequences of that dui and driving almost always sober for many years i can clearly tell the difference now even if i drive after having just one or two drinks which is the max when i am out. i personally feel there is no excuse for someone to get a second or multiple duis.you should look for the story deepmpactt posted in response to this in the puerto plata forum. you guys make it sound like driving drunk is no big deal, but deep's friend was killed by a drunk driver.

it only sounds like you stopped drinking and driving because you got a dui. this is why i said everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is (obviously at the time you did not view what you were doing as reckless). just be thankful that you stopped before you killed someone. maybe that dui was your intervention.

but you are right; whether one decides to wear a jimmy cap or not is between two consenting adults. i was only commenting on the idea of reckless individuals giving reckless advice. it's sort of like the blind leading the blind.

but as devin the dude said: "...no one will suffer but you; so do what the fuck you wanna do..."

[Kman1]

You should look for the story DeepMpactt posted in response to this in the Puerto Plata forum. You guys make it sound like driving drunk is no big deal, but Deep's friend was killed by a drunk driver.

It only sounds like you stopped drinking and driving because you got a DUI. This is why I said everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is (obviously at the time you did not view what you were doing as reckless). Just be thankful that you stopped before you killed someone. Maybe that DUI was your intervention.

But you are right; whether one decides to wear a Jimmy Cap or not is between two consenting adults. I was only commenting on the idea of reckless individuals giving reckless advice. It's sort of like the blind leading the blind.

As Devin the Dude said: ". No one will suffer but you; so do what the fuck you want to do."That is "f. Ing" true, though I don't like to use that word. I was ignorant and underestimated the effects of driving drunk. That is exactly why I think the law also has a first time offenders waiver, without which people like me will be doomed. I did learn from it and that was the point I was trying to make.

The Jimmy stuff is tricky. The only way to truly protect yourself is abstinence, the other best way is you make sure you use condoms all the time. You do not control others actions or strong arm or bully them into your ways.

As far as the Devin the Dude says or reckless behaviour, that applies to mongering as a whole IMHO, esp. In distant foreign lands. Peace.

[Frannie]

Last Monday, February 20 it was for Ad (formerly manager of the Black Box Bar on the beach of Sosúa) , the first day as manager of bar / nightclub 'La Gran Velero'. This bar / nightclub is still better known to everyone as 'Latino Bar'. On advice of Ad, all kinds of changes have been introduced. The pool tables are now moved back so on the right at the entrance there is more space for some cozy seats. There are new big TV screens installed where music videos are played. Prices for drinks are reduced to 80 pesos for a Bohemia beer and Cuba Libre. The music has changed too, from too loud and too much hip hop to music from the 70s and 80s and popular salsa, bachata and merengue.

Monday was the first evening for Ad as manager of 'La Gran Velero'. At 11 PM it was packed in the bar. The camareras did not knew what happened, they hadn't been so busy serving drinks for a long time. Ad and the owner Carlo, went from customer to customer to have a chat and were visibly pleased with this overwhelming interest. There were many customers (Germans, Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Americans) of the Black Box present. It was a great start for the new manager of 'La Gran Velero'. Sosúa has another nice place to go where the prices are affordable, with good music and lots of fun. From Sosua News.

You can never underestimate the power of music to repel or attract customers.

[Mr Gogo]

Last Monday, February 20 it was for Ad (formerly manager of the Black Box Bar on the beach of Sosúa) , the first day as manager of bar / nightclub 'La Gran Velero'. This bar / nightclub is still better known to everyone as 'Latino Bar'. On advice of Ad, all kinds of changes have been introduced. The pool tables are now moved back so on the right at the entrance there is more space for some cozy seats. There are new big TV screens installed where music videos are played. Prices for drinks are reduced to 80 pesos for a Bohemia beer and Cuba Libre. The music has changed too, from too loud and too much hip hop to music from the 70s and 80s and popular salsa, bachata and merengue.

Monday was the first evening for Ad as manager of 'La Gran Velero'. At 11 PM it was packed in the bar. The camareras did not knew what happened, they hadn't been so busy serving drinks for a long time. Ad and the owner Carlo, went from customer to customer to have a chat and were visibly pleased with this overwhelming interest. There were many customers (Germans, Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Americans) of the Black Box present. It was a great start for the new manager of 'La Gran Velero'. Sosúa has another nice place to go where the prices are affordable, with good music and lots of fun. From Sosua News.

You can never underestimate the power of music to repel or attract customers.The pool tables are now over by the bathroom area. Its owned by a Canadian and Dominican. It was not packed last night. I counted eight guys at the bar, but the tables that now occupy the old pool area was full. And you are correct, mostly European and all white.

The new place"Pop" across the street was better. The girls wear white tops and red hot pants shorts. The girls have energy and look happy. The also serve food curbside.

Met the brother"Roz" that owns the new bar in front of the Europa hotel. He is from NY and used to play ball. He saw me walking by and introduced himself. They also have food. I encourage everyone to stop by and say Hello. Tell him Gogo sent you.

La Rocas is still vacant. PJs is still vacant. Seacrest is still vacant. The bar across from PJs diagonally, on the corner was closed. Don't know about this real estate boom someone was recently talking about. All these are prime locations that are sitting empty.

Talked to Lous of "Shark bar" fame last night. He seemed to be excited about his future.

Left Classicos at midnight and the ratio was 1-1. Maybe slightly more dudes."La Gran Velero was mostly dudes."Cuba Lbre bar" was closed, Fred is out of town.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

I tried contacting Hispaniola Villas at this email address, but they haven't responded:

hispaniolarent@codetel.net.do

Does anyone have any other means to contact them? I'm specifically looking at Villa 67 since it is supposed to be walking distance to the center of Sosua. My group would consider Casa Linda, but they don't want to rent a car. Any help is appreciated as usual.

[Orgasmico]

Does anyone have any other means to contact them?1 809-571-2150

[SavePros321]

The pool tables are now over by the bathroom area. Its owned by a Canadian and Dominican. It was not packed last night. I counted eight guys at the bar, but the tables that now occupy the old pool area was full. And you are correct, mostly European and all white.

The new place"Pop" across the street was better. The girls wear white tops and red hot pants shorts. The girls have energy and look happy. The also serve food curbside.

Met the brother"Roz" that owns the new bar in front of the Europa hotel. He is from NY and used to play ball. He saw me walking by and introduced himself. They also have food. I encourage everyone to stop by and say Hello. Tell him Gogo sent you.

La Rocas is still vacant. PJs is still vacant. Seacrest is still vacant. The bar across from PJs diagonally, on the corner was closed. Don't know about this real estate boom someone was recently talking about. All these are prime locations that are sitting empty.

Talked to Lous of "Shark bar" fame last night. He seemed to be excited about his future.

Left Classicos at midnight and the ratio was 1-1. Maybe slightly more dudes."La Gran Velero was mostly dudes."Cuba Lbre bar" was closed, Fred is out of town.So much for trying to ignore those Sosua drumbeats :D.

[Zedman99]

Last Monday, February 20 it was for Ad (formerly manager of the Black Box Bar on the beach of Sosúa) , the first day as manager of bar / nightclub 'La Gran Velero'. This bar / nightclub is still better known to everyone as 'Latino Bar'. On advice of Ad, all kinds of changes have been introduced. The pool tables are now moved back so on the right at the entrance there is more space for some cozy seats. There are new big TV screens installed where music videos are played. Prices for drinks are reduced to 80 pesos for a Bohemia beer and Cuba Libre. The music has changed too, from too loud and too much hip hop to music from the 70s and 80s and popular salsa, bachata and merengue.

Monday was the first evening for Ad as manager of 'La Gran Velero'. At 11 PM it was packed in the bar. The camareras did not knew what happened, they hadn't been so busy serving drinks for a long time. Ad and the owner Carlo, went from customer to customer to have a chat and were visibly pleased with this overwhelming interest. There were many customers (Germans, Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Americans) of the Black Box present. It was a great start for the new manager of 'La Gran Velero'. Sosúa has another nice place to go where the prices are affordable, with good music and lots of fun. From Sosua News.

You can never underestimate the power of music to repel or attract customers.That's great news to me-Seems like somebody realized that catering to the older crowd was sorely lacking and considering they make up the majority of the male "tourist" there its about time somebody realized the void. Personally I don't care for rap or hip-hop but if that's your flavor enjoy it. I love the latin music and I lived and loved the70's era of music and DeeJayed in the 80's in nightclubs so I'll definitely be stoppin in to check it out Thanks for the update I'll be there in a couple of weeks.

[Zedman99]

Well put my man!You know I don't want to get into politics but the Drug companies rule in the USAA PERIOD. I met a guy once in Boca Chica he told me when you want drugs here in the DR you can ask for International and they'll give you the brand names. Also another thing he told me was nowdays the best pharmaceutical drugs are made in India-Germany and I think he said Sweden. USA companies care about one thing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ just look at how their "miracle" drugs oxyies and roxies are destroying our youth. That it.

[TomJackin]

The pool tables are now over by the bathroom area. The new place"Pop" across the street was better. The girls wear white tops and red hot pants shorts. The girls have energy and look happy. The also serve food curbside.Mr. Gogo,

Say it's not so, my beloved Latino Club place has changed? I don't give a damn about the pool tables, but is the club in the back changed as well? 70s and 80s music, dear God, where is the mercy? Life just isn't fair, and that's the way it is; dammit! Ramba was across the street for Latino, are you saying the place is called "Pop" now?

The bozs from the "Westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "Deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, I'm going to have Patricia pay my ass for the pounding! NY Shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "Westside!":D

[Coolie High]

the bozs from the "westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, i'm going to have patricia pay my ass for the pounding! Ny shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "westside!":dWESTSIDE till we die! Lmfao

[Mr Gogo]

Mr. Gogo,

Say it's not so, my beloved Latino Club place has changed? I don't give a damn about the pool tables, but is the club in the back changed as well? 70s and 80s music, dear God, where is the mercy? Life just isn't fair, and that's the way it is; dammit! Ramba was across the street for Latino, are you saying the place is called "Pop" now?

The bozs from the "Westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "Deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, I'm going to have Patricia pay my ass for the pounding! NY Shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "Westside!".No! Rumba is still there, but fifty feet towards Classicos is "Pop". I love this as my new scout location. The girls have energy and one of the waitresses is half of the sisters at Latinos.

[Frannie]

That's great news to me-Seems like somebody realized that catering to the older crowd was sorely lacking and considering they make up the majority of the male "tourist" there its about time somebody realized the void. Personally I don't care for rap or hip-hop but if that's your flavor enjoy it. I love the latin music and I lived and loved the70's era of music and DeeJayed in the 80's in nightclubs so I'll definitely be stoppin in to check it out Thanks for the update I'll be there in a couple of weeks.I like different types of music, but when you are running a business, you have to think about what kind of ambience you want to create and what kind of customers you want to attract. Deafening loud music and low lighting makes it impossible to have a conversation, but encourages people to get physically very close together and shout into each other's ear, hopefully leading to later intimacy. There may also be dancing. If that is the business model, so be it. On the other hand if you want to attract groups of drinkers who may want to talk to each other, then the deafening music has to go and you may want music that reminds your patrons of their salad days, or tunes that people can sing along to. If you have televisions showing non-stop German soccer, then it is obvious what client base you are going after.

I don't know to what extent local business study the demographics of tourist data. I was in La Sirena in Puerto Plata recently and the cashier asked me if I lived locally. I asked what this was about as she placed some check marks on the form on her clipboard, and she said the cashiers were conducting market research to determine how many "gringos" lived locally and used La Sirena. I hope they are not planning to change the music, as I like the background music they play which is mostly US music.

It is all just business, and of course you can change the model overnight.

[Mr Gogo]

So much for trying to ignore those Sosua drumbeats :D.Sosua is like a magnet that draws me there. Last night I went to a private party. Too bad people don't visit these bars of the main drag in Sosua, things go on there also. Today headed to the Carnival in La Vega, then back to SD in a couple days to meet a few ISG vets there for the big Carnival.

[Hillbilly69]

Sosua is like a magnet that draws me there. Last night I went to a private party. Too bad people don't visit these bars of the main drag in Sosua, things go on there also. Today headed to the Carnival in La Vega, then back to SD in a couple days to meet a few ISG vets there for the big Carnival.If it's not too late to change your plans tonight is usually a huge party in Santiago Near the monument hot chics everywhere!

Watch your ass in Lavega!!!

[DeepMmpactt]

Mr. Gogo,

Say it's not so, my beloved Latino Club place has changed? I don't give a damn about the pool tables, but is the club in the back changed as well? 70s and 80s music, dear God, where is the mercy? Life just isn't fair, and that's the way it is; dammit! Ramba was across the street for Latino, are you saying the place is called "Pop" now?

The bozs from the "Westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "Deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, I'm going to have Patricia pay my ass for the pounding! NY Shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "Westside!".Lmfao, Tomjackin you're a fool. Shout out to Cooley "7ft and counting the putas high" Save "the fine ass chicas" Pro, Puta Romeo, I can't believe, Latinod closed, but me and Tomjackin gunna invade the place, And warning for them putas, the Chocolate Jackhammer, will be powered up and loaded, ready to cause chaos and destrution! I'm ginna take alot of pictures to post for you guys to enjoy all my high lights, low lights or no lights at all, West Side all day everyday, C-walking, and our pants draggin and saggin, just one our many talents!

[Mr Enternational]

Reposted from the Santo Domingo thread:

I was on the way to meet Gogo at Barra Payan on night about 9:30. But first I had to make sure my Cupid girl was able to get a ride home. From my understanding I would be dropping her were there were taxis or guaguas or something. Well this girl had me driving all across town. You know if there were only a couple of turns then I could have made it back. But once we passed Av Venezuela I was like wait. Maybe you don't understand that I am not from here and I don't know where the hell I am. She kept saying we are really close but we were nowhere near close. More turns and what not. Meanwhile I'm complaining to her about the shitty streets and there being no lane markings. I finally told her look, you will just have to come to Barra Payan with me and I will give you money for a taxi from there.

So we are on the way to Barra Payan and she really doesn't know where it is. I told her to just get me to the president's house and I know from there. We passed Av. Mexico and I remembered 30 Marzo being off Av. Mexico. But maybe she knew something I didn't. The area looked familiar though because Jao had taken me around and I knew that I was close to the US Embassy. I told the girl that I thought it was the embassy but she said no that is a university.

Just then two Fed police came up beside us on a motorcycle. He was telling me to pull over. I was playing stupid just saying yeah okay but kept driving. They came up beside us again and did the same thing. So I finally pulled over. They were saying that I ran a light and asked for my driver's license. I handed it over and he went back to the motorcycle. That is when I separated my money putting it in my underwear, only keeping 500 pesos accessible in case I needed to hand it over to them.

He came back to the car and I was acting as if I did not speak Spanish. So he was trying to go through my girl saying something like the fine is 1000 pesos because of running a light. He told her that I could understand her. So I was talking in broken Spanish saying yeah this is my amante. She told him that we were looking for the sandwich shop because I had to meet a friend. He kept saying ticket ticket. So I said yeah just give me the ticket and I will go to the embajada manana. This happened a couple of times. I guess he was trying to stall out for me to offer him money. So they finally decided to give us a police escort us to Barra Payan. We followed them. It was about 10 minutes away. I called to let Gogo know what the deal was.

When we arrived he came back to the car still talking about a ticket and hoping to get some money. I told him the same thing. Yeah, just give me the ticket and I go to embajada manana. He finally got frustrated and just gave my license back. Then he said they brought us all the way to Barra Payan, still hoping for money. I shrugged my shoulders and they finally left. I got out of the car laughing my ass off and saw Gogo.

Jao has since informed me that the Federal Police can not issue tickets. Only Amvet can do that. You will see them out and about with neon green vests, a hat, and a ticket book.

[Puta Romeo]

Well played Mr International. The "dumb gringo" who pretends to not understand or speak any Spanish can come in handy in situations like this.

[Cagep1967]

Play dumb all the way, speak bad spanish, act like you don't understand, etc. Unless you do something stupid (like my last time) and get caught getting a blow job in the car. That cost me a little.


Reposted from the Santo Domingo thread:

I was on the way to meet Gogo at Barra Payan on night about 9:30. But first I had to make sure my Cupid girl was able to get a ride home. From my understanding I would be dropping her were there were taxis or guaguas or something. Well this girl had me driving all across town. You know if there were only a couple of turns then I could have made it back. But once we passed Av Venezuela I was like wait. Maybe you don't understand that I am not from here and I don't know where the hell I am. She kept saying we are really close but we were nowhere near close. More turns and what not. Meanwhile I'm complaining to her about the shitty streets and there being no lane markings. I finally told her look, you will just have to come to Barra Payan with me and I will give you money for a taxi from there.

So we are on the way to Barra Payan and she really doesn't know where it is. I told her to just get me to the president's house and I know from there. We passed Av. Mexico and I remembered 30 Marzo being off Av. Mexico. But maybe she knew something I didn't. The area looked familiar though because Jao had taken me around and I knew that I was close to the US Embassy. I told the girl that I thought it was the embassy but she said no that is a university.

Just then two Fed police came up beside us on a motorcycle. He was telling me to pull over. I was playing stupid just saying yeah okay but kept driving. They came up beside us again and did the same thing. So I finally pulled over. They were saying that I ran a light and asked for my driver's license. I handed it over and he went back to the motorcycle. That is when I separated my money putting it in my underwear, only keeping 500 pesos accessible in case I needed to hand it over to them.

He came back to the car and I was acting as if I did not speak Spanish. So he was trying to go through my girl saying something like the fine is 1000 pesos because of running a light. He told her that I could understand her. So I was talking in broken Spanish saying yeah this is my amante. She told him that we were looking for the sandwich shop because I had to meet a friend. He kept saying ticket ticket. So I said yeah just give me the ticket and I will go to the embajada manana. This happened a couple of times. I guess he was trying to stall out for me to offer him money. So they finally decided to give us a police escort us to Barra Payan. We followed them. It was about 10 minutes away. I called to let Gogo know what the deal was.

When we arrived he came back to the car still talking about a ticket and hoping to get some money. I told him the same thing. Yeah, just give me the ticket and I go to embajada manana. He finally got frustrated and just gave my license back. Then he said they brought us all the way to Barra Payan, still hoping for money. I shrugged my shoulders and they finally left. I got out of the car laughing my ass off and saw Gogo.

Jao has since informed me that the Federal Police can not issue tickets. Only Amvet can do that. You will see them out and about with neon green vests, a hat, and a ticket book.

[Azazel42]

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel

[Azazel42]

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel

[OldKool]

I AM NOT SURE PLAYING DUM WITH A PERSON IT. CATCH ONE THOSE JERKS ON A BAD DAY YOU NEVER KNOW. BEING A TOURIST MAY AFFORD A LITTLE COVER BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. [

QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1252201]Play dumb all the way, speak bad spanish, act like you don't understand, etc. Unless you do something stupid (like my last time) and get caught getting a blow job in the car. That cost me a little.[/QUOTE]

[Chert1]

Well I got to say I love it here in Sosua and will definitelly come back. Had absolutely no problem with my Tourretes Syndrome. Just needed a little explanation. LOL just said "soy un pocito loco". This got them laughing and were very happy to oblige me. Still in Sosua. Leaving tomorrow. Checked out Passions last night. What a place. Before was just getting the chicas off the street. Will write a more thorough report when I arrive back in Canada. An interesting thing is that I went to Sosua Bay Resort. They put me in the building by the side entrance. Definitely chica friendly. No charge at all to bring the chicas in just need to leave their I'd and when they check out in the morning the desk holds them and calls the room to make sure all is ok. Next time I am renting an appartment though. Will post a report later. And thanks for all the advice.

[Manizales911]

Well I got to say I love it here in Sosua and will definitelly come back. Had absolutely no problem with my Tourretes Syndrome. Just needed a little explanation. LOL just said "soy un pocito loco". This got them laughing and were very happy to oblige me. Still in Sosua. Leaving tomorrow. Checked out Passions last night. What a place. Before was just getting the chicas off the street. Will write a more thorough report when I arrive back in Canada. An interesting thing is that I went to Sosua Bay Resort. They put me in the building by the side entrance. Definitely chica friendly. No charge at all to bring the chicas in just need to leave their I'd and when they check out in the morning the desk holds them and calls the room to make sure all is ok. Next time I am renting an appartment though. Will post a report later. And thanks for all the advice.I'm glad to see you are having a good time and everything is working out for you Chert1, Sosua isn't for everyone but personally I like it. Passions gets a bad rap sometimes because it is expensive compared to picking up freelancers but it is perfect for people that aren't familiar with the street scene or want girls that they are assured not to have problems with, I go there a few times almost every trip because I am almost guaranteed a good performance by the girl and the extra 30-40 bucks I have to pay isn't going to send me to the poor house and is worth it once in a while.

[Charles Pooter]

I'm glad to see you are having a good time and everything is working out for you Chert1, Sosua isn't for everyone but personally I like it. Passions gets a bad rap sometimes because it is expensive compared to picking up freelancers but it is perfect for people that aren't familiar with the street scene or want girls that they are assured not to have problems with, I go there a few times almost every trip because I am almost guaranteed a good performance by the girl and the extra 30-40 bucks I have to pay isn't going to send me to the poor house and is worth it once in a while.Good post. I am glad it all worked out for Chert1.

[DeepMmpactt]

Well I got to say I love it here in Sosua and will definitelly come back. Had absolutely no problem with my Tourretes Syndrome. Just needed a little explanation. LOL just said "soy un pocito loco". This got them laughing and were very happy to oblige me. Still in Sosua. Leaving tomorrow. Checked out Passions last night. What a place. Before was just getting the chicas off the street. Will write a more thorough report when I arrive back in Canada. An interesting thing is that I went to Sosua Bay Resort. They put me in the building by the side entrance. Definitely chica friendly. No charge at all to bring the chicas in just need to leave their I'd and when they check out in the morning the desk holds them and calls the room to make sure all is ok. Next time I am renting an appartment though. Will post a report later. And thanks for all the advice.I just want to say, Excellent post, from your first asking the questions, to your executing, the advice flawlessly. The members here are a gold mine of endless information and advice. I must say I admire your courage, putting yourself out there, but I can honestly say, I am fairly new here to ISG, I haven't quite ran into a situation like yours, and R. T. F. F. Absolutely didn't apply to you, honestly I started myself, journeying back page after page, from the archives of wise information, Nothing even remotely similiar to your situation, (Standing Ovation for your Courage!)

[Ath Trainer]

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

AzazelYou say you have been a member for "years" but have never posted any useful information. You state that you have gotten good info. In the past that have been helpful in your "trips" to Europe, but not one report. You "promise" that you will post a full report and "pics", but have never done so in the past.

You sound like a politician running for office. Promises, promises.

[Frannie]

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

AzazelI may be wrong, but I don't think Hispaniola Beach condos are quite where you suggest. I think they are next to Infiniti Blu, off Calle Alejandro Martinez, although Pedro Clissante does run out into Alejandro Martinez at the end, so maybe that is what you mean. I don't think you would need a car, but it might be handy to rent a passola (scooter) , although if you are fit, it is within easy walking distance of the main entertainment district, plus you can use motoconchos. There are a few restaurants and bars in that area. I would say it is not dangerous to walk back there at night, because I have never heard of tourists being attacked while walking at night in Sosua and I have done it a lot myself. One of the reasons why I don't think it is dangerous is that there are armed nightwatchmen with guns sitting all over Sosua at night at hotels, banks, and businesses, and they are usually suspicious of any unusual activity in their zones of interest. To that extent I would say it is safer to walk around at night than in the US or the UK.

However don't be surprised if someone else on the board chips in and says that it IS dangerous. There is always more than one opinion.

However, since the condos no doubt have security, you might want to check out their policies on guests. Most likely they allow one per day and will hold the ID papers of the visitor in the guardhouse during the visit.

None of the other hotels are really ideal, but the Sosua Beach Club hotel at the non inclusive wing might be your best bet. Terra Linda is supposed to be nice inside, but in a somewhat crummy area and I imagine there would be a lot of traffic noise there. Power, Internet, and water outages are a fact of life anywhere in the DR. Better class accommodations do have backup generators, but broken water pipes can occur anywhere, and hotel wi-fi is always iffy and may go from excellent to barely moving for no apparent reason (maybe other users.) If you want reliable Internet I would definitely recommend buying a Claro prepaid Internet stick, though you might want to try out your hotel's wi-fi Internet first to see if it is good enough to meet your needs. Water is rarely a problem, but don't drink it. Worst case scenario is you have to get a bucket of water from the swimming pool to flush a WC, so don't sweat it.

I think the condo probably would be a good idea if you can afford it. It is nice to have a quiet place with a pool and a beach to go home to away from the prostitution scene.

[Manizales911]

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel#1-yes you will need a car unless you don't mind walking quite a distance after drinking and chasing tail all night, not what I would want to do but it is technically walkable.

#2. Sosua is very safe generally but you will be walking out of the busy area so personally I wouldn't do it alone at night, but with a wingman I would though. Frannie's notion that the guys with shotguns at the banks might intervene on your behalf in my opinion is wishful thinking.

#3- no, not in my opinion. But then again you will probably end up renting a car or getting comfortable riding motoconchos but it sounds as if your wingman is a bit of a princess or inexperienced going to third world countries so I doubt he will go for riding motos. I like staying close to the action so I can stumble back to my hotel or condo, I don't mind a little noise, I make a little noise myself, haha.

#4-I would check out Las Terrazas condos, they are within walking distance but far enough away from the noise, I have stayed there many times. I've never stayed at Sosua Bay but some guys love it and other guys don't. You couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda again, they don't allow multiple girls and that is a no go for me and they fucked me on a credit card charge, I never ever use a credit card outside the USA but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to use it. When I got my statement they double billed me and I disputed it and they forged a second slip and the credit card company denied it. When I return to Sosua there is going to be a fucking firestorm over at that shit hole of a hotel. They didn't tell me they didn't allow more than one girl and when I tried to bring two girls back with me the night watchman was a complete asshole without being provoked by me, he is going to get his too believe me. That said, a lot of guys like Terra Linda.

Enjoy your trip.

[Frannie]

#2. Sosua is very safe generally but you will be walking out of the busy area so personally I wouldn't do it alone at night, but with a wingman I would though. Frannie's notion that the guys with shotguns at the banks might intervene on your behalf in my opinion is wishful thinking.No my thinking was more that the presence of so many guys with shotguns snoozing in dark corners would be a deterrent to would-be muggers just as a wingman might act as a deterrent. Anyway I don't remember anyone ever posting here that they were attacked on the streets of Sosua except by female pickpockets. However people's tolerances may differ, so each to his own. I would not go out at night carrying any more than the money I intended to spend, not so much from fear of being robbed as concern that I might drop my wallet and lose it.

As you say, drinking alcohol may make people more vulnerable to misadventures. I once walked into a concrete block on a dark sidewalk in Sosua and broke a toe, and I had not even been drinking.

[Sammy Sosa]

The first rule of Cupid is to always have a backup. And the second rule is to always have a backup to the backup.Problem is chicas seem to be late in principle, around here. Punctuality is the virtue of the bored, I guess. But it does make planning quite hard. Sometimes if even feels like work scheduling all these ladies, plus the chatting and IMing and Facebooking and al.

Bottom line, I am no fan of P4P neither, but feel good to be in Sosua and just go for a beer and just go with the flow (I mean, the first pretty face that happens to pass by.)

[Sammy Sosa]

Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?

[DeepMmpactt]

You should look for the story DeepMpactt posted in response to this in the Puerto Plata forum. You guys make it sound like driving drunk is no big deal, but Deep's friend was killed by a drunk driver.

It only sounds like you stopped drinking and driving because you got a DUI. This is why I said everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is (obviously at the time you did not view what you were doing as reckless). Just be thankful that you stopped before you killed someone. Maybe that DUI was your intervention.

But you are right; whether one decides to wear a Jimmy Cap or not is between two consenting adults. I was only commenting on the idea of reckless individuals giving reckless advice. It's sort of like the blind leading the blind.

But as Devin the Dude said: ". No one will suffer but you; so do what the fuck you want to do."Man, not to bring anyone down, but please. If you're even buzzed, find alternate transportation I aint trying to preach to anyone, but some mongers You Can, Sammon, and now this clown thinks its somekind of artform to drive pissy drunk and get away with it, I had a close buddy that was killed, by a drunk driver R. I. P my buddy Glenn", I guess its so easy, to laugh it off, and this clown dismissed it, as first time offenders, well you S. O. B! Where do my buddy get his life back? Where's his first time do-over? There aint no re-dues, or What class can my buddy Glenn could take? , He would have loved to be here watching his 2 little kids growup or be near his loving wife, It will never happen, My buddy is gone forever. I realize most reading this post, probaly won't have to expierience of losing, a great friend, and father to a drunk driver, just a little backround my buddy was coming home from work, at night, while this coward ass drunk lady drove up, a freeway off ramp, the wrong way, and hit my buddys truck head on, as he was exiting the off ramp the right way, he was pronounced dead at the scene! Once again much love to all you mongers, that do the right thing, especially you Savepro321 for, mentioning my story. Peace and love. Deepmmpactt. R. I. P "Glenn" you are missed everyday.

[Manizales911]

Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?Do you really even have to ask? New Garden isn't going to let her in anyway thank goodness. Pervert.

[Manizales911]

No my thinking was more that the presence of so many guys with shotguns snoozing in dark corners would be a deterrent to would-be muggers just as a wingman might act as a deterrent. Anyway I don't remember anyone ever posting here that they were attacked on the streets of Sosua except by female pickpockets. However people's tolerances may differ, so each to his own. I would not go out at night carrying any more than the money I intended to spend, not so much from fear of being robbed as concern that I might drop my wallet and lose it.

As you say, drinking alcohol may make people more vulnerable to misadventures. I once walked into a concrete block on a dark sidewalk in Sosua and broke a toe, and I had not even been drinking.Good point, and very true about the sidewalks being the enemy at night, it makes the stumble home a drunken obstacle course.

[Frannie]

Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?As long as you don't make it past first base you should be fine.

[Charles Pooter]

As long as you don't make it past first base you should be fine.I wouldn't spend any time with her except in a populated public place. There is a danger she could be setting you up for blackmail. Don't be alone with her and certainly not in your hotel. The chances of it being a scam are remote but, if it were, the consequences for you would be devastating. You would be assumed guilty of a very serious offence, both here and in your own country, and you would be unable to prove your innocence. Best to leave her out of your plans for a year.

[Frannie]

I wouldn't spend any time with her except in a populated public place. There is a danger she could be setting you up for blackmail. Don't be alone with her and certainly not in your hotel. The chances of it being a scam are remote but, if it were, the consequences for you would be devastating. You would be assumed guilty of a very serious offence, both here and in your own country, and you would be unable to prove your innocence. Best to leave her out of your plans for a year.Mr. Pooter, Sammy Sosa is a famous Dominican baseball player, hence the reference to first base. I agree about the need for a chaperone.

[Zedman99]

Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.

[Tempoecorto]

As you say, drinking alcohol may make people more vulnerable to misadventures. I once walked into a concrete block on a dark sidewalk in Sosua and broke a toe, and I had not even been drinking.Ahh.... your story reminded me of my mis-adventure once, in Singapore. I fell into a hole, on the sidewalk, around 9. 30PM. Almost thought I broke my leg so bad was the pain and so sudden the whole thing was, blood all over and worse, it took a long time to crawl out and get a taxi, to get back to the hotel and call a doc. Worse, I did not have a single drop of alcohol in me (which would have helped in numbing the pain) , having just got out of an Indian restaurant (in the Indian ghetto side) who immaculate assholes as they are, do not believe in serving anything but water. LOL.

[Charles Pooter]

Mr. Pooter, Sammy Sosa is a famous Dominican baseball player, hence the reference to first base. I agree about the need for a chaperone.I am aware who Sammy Sosa is. He was the second cousin of one of my first chicas in the DR. In the real world where such minority sports are totally ignored that is probably his greater claim to fame.

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?

[Tempoecorto]

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe? Is there one? Hey wait, Hercule Poirot! Oh well, Agatha Christie needs some credit too... LOL!

[Frannie]

I am aware who Sammy Sosa is. He was the second cousin of one of my first chicas in the DR. In the real world where such minority sports are totally ignored that is probably his greater claim to fame.

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?Well he is hardly up there with Hercule Poirot, but being related to a Pooter home run chica should be a source of pride.

[Frannie]

Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.It is only illegal to engage in acts of prostitution with minors, however it is best to avoid ambiguous situations that would put either party at risk. One has to assume that persons who post here are responsible adults who are seeking information and can make their own decisions if they have the right information. Does the person who replies place themselves at greater risk than the person who asks the question?

[Zedman99]

It is only illegal to engage in acts of prostitution with minors, however it is best to avoid ambiguous situations that would put either party at risk. One has to assume that persons who post here are responsible adults who are seeking information and can make their own decisions if they have the right information. Does the person who replies place themselves at greater risk than the person who asks the question?Frannie let's analyze the situation-An adult is communicating on a website specifically designed for dating and engages in conversation with a minor who is supposedly 17yrs. Old-Its not right no matter how you spin it.

Its wrong plain and simple.

And advising to meet in a public place was one reply-For What? Great, let one of her older Male relatives see her there with this adult male-I am sure he would be real understanding of the situation. Furthermore anyone who would post that question is not a responsible adult but someone who is irresponsible to say the least and makes others who reply to this garbage on this site look like deviates. Every country I visit I respect their customs and their laws and as a guest I dare not try to test them.

[Charles Pooter]

Is there one? Hey wait, Hercule Poirot! Oh well, Agatha Christie needs some credit too. LOL!Good try but fictional characters don't count.

[Frannie]

Good try but fictional characters don't count.Audrey Hepburn (born in Belgium) , Rene Magritte, Peter Paul Rubens, Adolf Sax, Georges Simenon, Toots Thielemans, Anton Van Dyck, Eddy Merckx, were all famous real Belgians, but only one of them, has far as I know, claimed to have had sex with over 2000 prostitutes, and it wasn't Audrey Hepburn. Stella Artois also deserves an honorable mention.

[SavePros321]

You couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda again, they don't allow multiple girls and that is a no go for me and they fucked me on a credit card charge, I never ever use a credit card outside the USA but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to use it. When I got my statement they double billed me and I disputed it and they forged a second slip and the credit card company denied it. When I return to Sosua there is going to be a fucking firestorm over at that shit hole of a hotel. They didn't tell me they didn't allow more than one girl and when I tried to bring two girls back with me the night watchman was a complete asshole without being provoked by me, he is going to get his too believe me. That said, a lot of guys like Terra Linda.
.That's pretty jacked-up that they did that. I know you are a 10th degree Black Belt when it comes to Sosua, so I had to read what you wrote again and saw that you only used your credit card (in the DR) due to circumstances beyond your control. Makes perfect sense now. But for you newbies out there, don't even try it! Cash is King in the DR and using your credit card may result in a similar situation, or worse.

As far as Terra Linda, you are correct that they do not allow more than one chica at a time. But they absolutely do not care how many chicas you bring back and forth to your room throughout the day or night. I also like the ambiance at TL. They always have 80's hits playing during the day over the speaker system, which does give you the feel of being at a resort (unless you absolutely hate music from the 80's, LOL). The only other place I know of that does this is Blackbeard's. And since Blackbeard's was the very first place I stayed on my first trip to the DR, 80's hits (for me) has now become synonymous with the DR, lol. I know before that "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates Jazz had no significance (to me) :).

[Tempoecorto]

Audrey Hepburn (born in Belgium) , Rene Magritte, Peter Paul Rubens, Adolf Sax, Georges Simenon, Toots Thielemans, Anton Van Dyck, Eddy Merckx, were all famous real Belgians, but only one of them, has far as I know, claimed to have had sex with over 2000 prostitutes, and it wasn't Audrey Hepburn. Stella Artois also deserves an honorable mention.Hmmm. Other than Stella Artois and Georges Simenon, not a single name rings a bell. Well Hepburn aside! I can only think of coalmines.

[SavePros321]

As far as Terra Linda, you are correct that they do not allow more than one chica at a time. But they absolutely do not care how many chicas you bring back and forth to your room throughout the day or night. I also like the ambiance at TL. They always have 80's hits playing during the day over the speaker system, which does give you the feel of being at a resort (unless you absolutely hate music from the 80's, LOL). The only other place I know of that does this is Blackbeard's. And since Blackbeard's was the very first place I stayed on my first trip to the DR. 80's hits (for me) has now become synonymous with the DR, LOL. I know before that "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates Jazz had no significance (to me).

I will admit that TL is not without its flaws though. One MAJOR thing they need to work on changing is the fact that chicas can leave your room and get their IDs from the front desk without being escorted by you, and they (the front desk) also will not call your room to make sure everything is okay before they hand chicas back their ID. This is one area in where New Garden has the advantage security-wise, because chicas cannot get their ID back unless they are escorted by you to the front desk.

[Mr Gogo]

Frannie let's analyze the situation-An adult is communicating on a website specifically designed for dating and engages in conversation with a minor who is supposedly 17yrs. Old-Its not right no matter how you spin it.

Its wrong plain and simple.

And advising to meet in a public place was one reply-For What? Great, let one of her older Male relatives see her there with this adult male-I am sure he would be real understanding of the situation. Furthermore anyone who would post that question is not a responsible adult but someone who is irresponsible to say the least and makes others who reply to this garbage on this site look like deviates. Every country I visit I respect their customs and their laws and as a guest I dare not try to test them.You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.

[Kman1]

I will admit that TL is not without its flaws though. One MAJOR thing they need to work on changing is the fact that chicas can leave your room and get their IDs from the front desk without being escorted by you, and they (the front desk) also will not call your room to make sure everything is okay before they hand chicas back their ID. This is one area in where New Garden has the advantage security-wise, because chicas cannot get their ID back unless they are escorted by you to the front desk.This was not at all my experience at New Garden. Almost all chicas left on their own after getting paid, got their IDs and were gone, while I went back to sleep or hit the shower.

[Ipanema Carioca]

I just returned from Sosua (SBR) , and I stayed at the Sosua Bay Resort for the 3rd time. However, it was the worst stay this time. First, they never returned my emails to make reservations and when I made calls. I arrived on Thursday evening, Feb. 16 at 5pm. When I arrived to SBR, the staff seemed as if they were going through motions with expressionless faces. When I got to my room in the monger section, I checked the sheets as I do in all hotels, and I found chica hair on the sheets. But the room phone didn't work, so I made the 5 minute walk to the front desk and made a complaint to the front desk by a grumpy maid. This took a hour.

Second, when I showered the drain in the tub didn't work. So I was wading in shin deep water. Because my phone didn't work, I had to walk to the front desk to complainabout that. As for the phone, I was told that non of the room phones were working in my section of the building (5) because of wiring. Each issue I chose to do before I settled down and unpack.

Third, the next day many people complained about not having towels. Folks complained about clean towels being removed by the maids, and one fella said he had no clean towels for 3 days. Also many rooms were half or not cleaned.

After asking staff why is the service so bad, I was told by people I know at the front desk, maids, restaurant, and security that they have not received pay for 3 months. So I guess either there's not enough staff or the employees were doing a work slow down to protest their lack of pay.

Also some people had no water at times, and there was a sewage problem. You can smell sewage in the hallways and some rooms.

I don't think I will be stay at Sosua Bay Resort on my next trip. Unlike Terra Linda, where I stayed on two occasions, Sosua Bay Resort wants full payment up front. So if you have a problem with the hotel, you already paid and will lose out if you change hotels.

[TomJackin]

This was not at all my experience at New Garden. Almost all chicas left on their own after getting paid, got their IDs and were gone, while I went back to sleep or hit the shower.Hey SavePros, I have to agree with Kman on this one. My five and only times staying at the NG, I never escorted the girls out. I was either too drunk, too tired, or in the "See ya, let's do lunch sometime." mode. Plus, I'm always on the top floor and there are way too many stairs to negotiate at that time in the morning!:D

[Hillbilly69]

You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.Notice the 1st paragraph, ICE agents DO NOT COMMENT on their means of operation.

The USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or 'ICE', participates in investigating and capturing child sex tourists. In 2003 ICE launched 'Operation Predator', leading to the arrest of over 11, 000 child sexual abusers, including more than 1, 100 outside the United States. While ICE agents refuse to comment on their means and methods of operation, media reports have suggested the use of undercover agents, internet sting operations, and sophisticated technologies. ICE agents in Bangkok did say however that they often receive information from local NGOs about foreigners in Thailand whom they suspect of engaging in child sexual abuse. Sometimes USA based law enforcement, such as local Sheriff Departments and Parole Officers, inform them of known sex offenders who are traveling to the region. In both cases, local ICE agents work with their RTP counterparts to monitor the suspects' movements while in Thailand. [30]

Tourists from the United StatesUnder the PROTECT Act of April 2003, it is a federal crime, prosecutable in the United States, for a USA citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the USA citizen or lawful permanent resident alien intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. For purposes of the PROTECT Act, illicit sexual conduct includes any commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18. The law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the age of 18. [42] Before congressional passage of the Protect Act of 2003, prosecutors had to prove that sex tourists went abroad with the intent of molesting children—something almost impossible to demonstrate. The Protect Act shifted the burden, making predators liable for the act itself. Penalties were doubled from 15 years in prison to 30. [7

[Mr Enternational]

Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?I'm not condoning this, I'm actually condemning this. But last week I did see a guy about 25 years old eating at Big D's on the beach with 3 extremely young ladies, girls even (est. 14-17). And nobody batted an eye except for me. He spoke perfect Spanish, but was not Domincan; maybe Puerto Rican. He was drinking a beer and they were drinking Cokes. He was all over the oldest one. She even called her mom while they were there but I couldn't make out what she was telling her.

[Zedman99]

I'm not condoning this, I'm actually condemning this. But last week I did see a guy about 25 years old eating at Big D's on the beach with 3 extremely young ladies, girls even (est. 14-17). And nobody batted an eye except for me. He was drinking a beer and they were drinking Cokes. He was all over the oldest one. She even called her mom while they were there but I couldn't make out what she was telling her.Mr E I commend you on condemning this predatory behavior by the poster which he blatantly admitted to.

Concerning the beach matter-You are making too many assumptions.

What bothers me is that this predator is allowed to post and even be on this site-some guest reading that post and the replies, who were giving advice like "meet in a public place". Might be inclined to think this is a predator site to some extent. And that doesn't bode well for people who are here to post and converse about LEGAL ADULT ONLY information and perspectives. There are people who read this site and loathe us-mainly because of jealousy-I don't think we should give them ammunition for their "Holier than Thou" agenda.

To the moderators-please screen posts like the one being discussed more carefully-it should have never been posted and the poster should be banned-IMO-Zedman

[Mr Enternational]

I just returned from Sosua (SBR) , and I stayed at the Sosua Bay Resort for the 3rd time. However, it was the worst stay this time. First, they never returned my emails to make reservations and when I made calls. I arrived on Thursday evening, Feb. 16 at 5pm. When I arrived to SBR, the staff seemed as if they were going through motions with expressionless faces. When I got to my room in the monger section, I checked the sheets as I do in all hotels, and I found chica hair on the sheets. But the room phone didn't work, so I made the 5 minute walk to the front desk and made a complaint to the front desk by a grumpy maid. This took a hour.They have never returned my emails. I just usually call Glennis the manager and she makes my reservation for me. I was going to mention going through the motions and grumpiness due to not being paid, but I see you hit on it later. They should be used to it by now.


Second, when I showered the drain in the tub didn't work. So I was wading in shin deep water. Because my phone didn't work, I had to walk to the front desk to complainabout that. As for the phone, I was told that non of the room phones were working in my section of the building (5) because of wiring. Each issue I chose to do before I settled down and unpack.I have never known the drain to work properly the times I have stayed there. If it did THEN I would think something was wrong.


Third, the next day many people complained about not having towels. Folks complained about clean towels being removed by the maids, and one fella said he had no clean towels for 3 days. Also many rooms were half or not cleaned.They do not have reserve towels at the hotel. They have to restock the rooms with them as they clean the ones that are dirty.


After asking staff why is the service so bad, I was told by people I know at the front desk, maids, restaurant, and security that they have not received pay for 3 months. So I guess either there's not enough staff or the employees were doing a work slow down to protest their lack of pay. Also some people had no water at times, and there was a sewage problem. You can smell sewage in the hallways and some rooms.

I don't think I will be stay at Sosua Bay Resort on my next trip. Unlike Terra Linda, where I stayed on two occasions, Sosua Bay Resort wants full payment up front. So if you have a problem with the hotel, you already paid and will lose out if you change hotels.As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.

[Manizales911]

You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.I for one whole heartedly agree with him.

[Charles Pooter]

Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.I guess that is aimed at me. I think I would have done better to simpler have ignored his post but I was trying to be non-abrasive. I will revert to my normal abrasive mode of response in future. Yes, of course you are right. I was wrong to even respond. Boards like this should simply ignore such discussions and the mods should delete the original post.

[SavePros321]

Hey SavePros, I have to agree with Kman on this one. My five and only times staying at the NG, I never escorted the girls out. I was either too drunk, too tired, or in the "See ya, let's do lunch sometime." mode. Plus, I'm always on the top floor and there are way too many stairs to negotiate at that time in the morning!:DHmm. The two times I stayed at New Garden (before discovering TL) Alfred (the German guy) was still running the place and this policy was in full effect. I guess Lorenzo doesn't enforce it though.

[Zedman99]

I guess that is aimed at me. I think I would have done better to simpler have ignored his post but I was trying to be non-abrasive. I will revert to my normal abrasive mode of response in future. Yes, of course you are right. I was wrong to even respond. Boards like this should simply ignore such discussions and the mods should delete the original post.I was taken back that anyone replied to his post and got a little carried away calling the respondents stupider than the Predator (which is what he is).By acknowledging your mistake it is self-evident you are not stupider.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.Mr E, I guess that me and you are the last of the Mohegans still staying there, we might even have seen each other. Jeje LOL!

[MrMan78]

Mr E, I guess that me and you are the last of the Mohegans still staying there, we might even have seen each other. Jeje LOL!I've stayed at EUROPA my last 4 trips. Suits me just fine. No problems! LOL

[Ipanema Carioca]

They have never returned my emails. I just usually call Glennis the manager and she makes my reservation for me. I was going to mention going through the motions and grumpiness due to not being paid, but I see you hit on it later. They should be used to it by now.

I have never known the drain to work properly the times I have stayed there. If it did THEN I would think something was wrong.

They do not have reserve towels at the hotel. They have to restock the rooms with them as they clean the ones that are dirty.

As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.Thanks for the reply Mr. ET, from what I understand the actual owner of SBY is the owner of Classicos, and he wants to get rid of Glenys. Funny thing, her and her boss were not as visible on the property none of the 6 days this trip, but on my two other stays you always see them. One of the female employees verbally compared Glenys to a dog. Then her boss parks his BMW 8 cylinder up front at guess drop off. I think there is hostility between the administration and the staff. They are thinking the owner will change the administration soon, and Glenys will be gone

[Azazel42]

You say you have been a member for "years" but have never posted any useful information. You state that you have gotten good info. In the past that have been helpful in your "trips" to Europe, but not one report. You "promise" that you will post a full report and "pics", but have never done so in the past.

You sound like a politician running for office. Promises, promises.ATH Trainer, I understand why you feel like that, I really do. Everyone here contributes and gives back the knowledge thay are given and then some. That is my intention, and let clarify about my trips. These European trips were work related, during which I was able to get a few days here and there for myself to explore my surroundings. These were not MONGER-TRIPS. I have no pictures to share, or exciting stories to tell. This forum helped me find the REd light district in Hamburg and a couple other German and Dutch cities, and for that I am thankful. I did not take pics of the girls, because I was reluctant to ask. Sosua is my first true monger trip, and I promise you ATH. You will see some pics and hear some stories. If you don't want to help me, then by all means to each their own, but it's nice to see that not everyone is so petty, childish, and vindictive.

Azazel

[Azazel42]

I may be wrong, but I don't think Hispaniola Beach condos are quite where you suggest. I think they are next to Infiniti Blu, off Calle Alejandro Martinez, although Pedro Clissante does run out into Alejandro Martinez at the end, so maybe that is what you mean. I don't think you would need a car, but it might be handy to rent a passola (scooter) , although if you are fit, it is within easy walking distance of the main entertainment district, plus you can use motoconchos. There are a few restaurants and bars in that area. I would say it is not dangerous to walk back there at night, because I have never heard of tourists being attacked while walking at night in Sosua and I have done it a lot myself. One of the reasons why I don't think it is dangerous is that there are armed nightwatchmen with guns sitting all over Sosua at night at hotels, banks, and businesses, and they are usually suspicious of any unusual activity in their zones of interest. To that extent I would say it is safer to walk around at night than in the US or the UK.

However don't be surprised if someone else on the board chips in and says that it IS dangerous. There is always more than one opinion.

However, since the condos no doubt have security, you might want to check out their policies on guests. Most likely they allow one per day and will hold the I'd papers of the visitor in the guardhouse during the visit.

None of the other hotels are really ideal, but the Sosua Beach Club hotel at the non inclusive wing might be your best bet. Terra Linda is supposed to be nice inside, but in a somewhat crummy area and I imagine there would be a lot of traffic noise there. Power, Internet, and water outages are a fact of life anywhere in the DR. Better class accommodations do have backup generators, but broken water pipes can occur anywhere, and hotel wi-fi is always iffy and may go from excellent to barely moving for no apparent reason (maybe other users.) If you want reliable Internet I would definitely recommend buying a Claro prepaid Internet stick, though you might want to try out your hotel's wi-fi Internet first to see if it is good enough to meet your needs. Water is rarely a problem, but don't drink it. Worst case scenario is you have to get a bucket of water from the swimming pool to flush a WC, so don't sweat it.

I think the condo probably would be a good idea if you can afford it. It is nice to have a quiet place with a pool and a beach to go home to away from the prostitution scene.Frannie,

Thanks for your insight man, and yeah thats exactly what I meant about Calle Alejandro Martinez. (I can tell you know sosua. LOL) I am noticing that this indeed is far enough to merit motorized tranpo, because neither me or my wingman are very athletic or in good shape. LOL I may pursue some of the other rental choices from Hispaniola Real estate that are closer to the action as suggested by other members. (thanks Grandnash, and Hamster 101) The most important thing, is that my wingman has finally realized that the condos are the best choice and now its just a matter of finding the right one.

[Azazel42]

#1-yes you will need a car unless you don't mind walking quite a distance after drinking and chasing tail all night, not what I would want to do but it is technically walkable.

#2. Sosua is very safe generally but you will be walking out of the busy area so personally I wouldn't do it alone at night, but with a wingman I would though. Frannie's notion that the guys with shotguns at the banks might intervene on your behalf in my opinion is wishful thinking.

#3- no, not in my opinion. But then again you will probably end up renting a car or getting comfortable riding motoconchos but it sounds as if your wingman is a bit of a princess or inexperienced going to third world countries so I doubt he will go for riding motos. I like staying close to the action so I can stumble back to my hotel or condo, I don't mind a little noise, I make a little noise myself, haha.

#4-I would check out Las Terrazas condos, they are within walking distance but far enough away from the noise, I have stayed there many times. I've never stayed at Sosua Bay but some guys love it and other guys don't. You couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda again, they don't allow multiple girls and that is a no go for me and they fucked me on a credit card charge, I never ever use a credit card outside the USA but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to use it. When I got my statement they double billed me and I disputed it and they forged a second slip and the credit card company denied it. When I return to Sosua there is going to be a fucking firestorm over at that shit hole of a hotel. They didn't tell me they didn't allow more than one girl and when I tried to bring two girls back with me the night watchman was a complete asshole without being provoked by me, he is going to get his too believe me. That said, a lot of guys like Terra Linda.

Enjoy your trip.Manizales,

Thanks for your reply man, and yeah I think we will need some transpo if we want to stay in one of the beachfront luxury condos. There are some real nice and CHEAP ones up the road in Caberete and all in between, but Hispaniola is not so far and we have all that we need. We may have a 3rd Musketeer who will confirm time off tomorrow, so we may be looking for a 3 Bed Penthouse or perhaps Villa. Stay tuned and thanks.

Azazel

[Jaosousa]

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys. AzazelI have Not been to Sosua in over three years. ISG member Mark Anthony has recommended Blue Bayou condo rental in Sosua, several times; http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/

I have taken non-pro type chicas for drinks at Piergiorgio Palace Hotel (quiet place) , tables overlook the water and at night lights shine on the water and you can see needle fish (snorkeling you can also see barracuda there) ; http://www.piergiorgiopalace.com/. Piergiorgio Palace Hotel sits overlooking the water, it is about three blocks from Sosua Bay Hotel and about a block and a half from el neptuno condominium building (el neptuno is nice). I have no clue how chica friendly Piergiorgio Palace Hotel may or may not be. (El Neptuno 2 bedroom condo rentals were 100% chica friendly when I stayed there years ago).

Infiniti Blue condo rentals, I have no clue how chica friendly they may or may not be, http://www.infiniti-blu.com/. Video of Infiniti Blu (Infiniti blu gardens and ocean v) ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vZKyMysod4

There are other rentals, that sit overlooking the water in Sosua.

[FlSailor]

In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.

[John from NJ]

This is one area in where New Garden has the advantage security-wise, because chicas cannot get their ID back unless they are escorted by you to the front desk.I stayed at the NG on three separate trips. Last time was in Dec. 2011. I never escorted a chica to the front desk to retrieve her I'd. When we were do they walk themselves out.

[Coolie High]

In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.Curious are you staying in Sosua your whole trip cus if you are there's REALLY no need for you to be hollering at the online chicas. U say you speak fluent Spanish so the town is your oyster. U figure from Costambar to Caberette with Sosua in the middle that there has to be thousands of available chicas. Why call and wait for a chica when you'll see better and finer as soon as you step out your hotel room.

[Manizales911]

In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.It is a separate site all together, Dominicancupid. Com, thousands of girls.

[Manizales911]

Manizales,

Thanks for your reply man, and yeah I think we will need some transpo if we want to stay in one of the beachfront luxury condos. There are some real nice and CHEAP ones up the road in Caberete and all in between, but Hispaniola is not so far and we have all that we need. We may have a 3rd Musketeer who will confirm time off tomorrow, so we may be looking for a 3 Bed Penthouse or perhaps Villa. Stay tuned and thanks.

AzazelThe villas at Hispaniola are awesome and the girls love it. Almost all of them have their own private pools which is fun with the chicas and if you do get a third guy they are economical. You can't get crazy outside late at night though because there are families nearby that live there and you will get thrown out.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Curious are you staying in Sosua your whole trip cus if you are there's REALLY no need for you to be hollering at the online chicas. U say you speak fluent Spanish so the town is your oyster. U figure from Costambar to Caberette with Sosua in the middle that there has to be thousands of available chicas. Why call and wait for a chica when you'll see better and finer as soon as you step out your hotel room.This is 100% true, plus any any "regular serious" chica will know what time it is the minute you say "I'm staying in sosua" The country pretty much knows any gringo who's staying in Sosua and now even cabarete for that matter will be partaking in wh0remongering! Regular chicas will try and avoid it like the plague for risk of being mislabeled!

[Wrx2005]

In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.You should be looking for Dominican Cupid. A word of caution. Be careful with trying to hook up with chicas online. If you are going to Sosua you don't really need a dating website. Fine, sexy women are available and all over the place. I think the reason we do it, is because we feel we need something to do before we can get can down there.

In Sosua you know exactly what you are getting in the moment. And you pay only for what you use, and thats it. Short time or All night. On a dating website, you don't know what the chick really looks like and some of her personality until you meet them. By the time you finish with that chick, you will probably be out a lot more money than if you just hooked up with a chica already in Sosua.

Sometimes you pay a greater expense with chicks from a dating websites. Just about all of them start asking for gifts or even money prior to your visit. They will start telling you about all of their problems and financial misfortunes. When it's time to hookup, you may have to spend money to get the chick to come to Sosua to be with you. Worse, they may ask you to send them money for transpo. You don't need any of that in Sosua. Both of you can walk to your hotel. Another thing to take into consideration. The chick you meet online is probably juggling dozens of other men interested in her. In Sosua, when a chica walks off with a guy they usually give all of their attention to that guy until she's leaving.

Online a chica may have several interests she's juggling, taking note of when each guy is coming to the Dom Rep on vacation. They can easily schedule a guy once they know when he's coming. What she does to survive in real life and how she may represent herself on the phone to you are two completely different perspectives. Since you are fluent in spanish maybe your experience may be different. And I'm also considering that you might just find a regular girl instead of a working girl undercover.

[Manizales911]

In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.

[Tempoecorto]

If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.Truth...every which way. A Spanish speaker has very little need for Sosua even though it is an experience (in my case, it helped me with a soft landing on my first trip and also thanks to Frannie's help) and certainly, there is no free dinner or lunch. Forget the D. R, nowhere actually!

[Azazel42]

The villas at Hispaniola are awesome and the girls love it. Almost all of them have their own private pools which is fun with the chicas and if you do get a third guy they are economical. You can't get crazy outside late at night though because there are families nearby that live there and you will get thrown out.Manizales & Gang,

I was afraid of that with the villas. I thought having a private pool and jacuzzi to get wild in would be great, but I don't want to have to be quiet at night while we skinny dip. LOL. Does anyone know for sure if; http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/

Is chica friendly? Those are right in the thick of it and absolutely luxurious. Both Hispaniola Beach and Infiniti Blue are much farther, but even more luxurious I think. With 3 of us I see us renting a car anyway, but it would be nice if we diddn't have to. I also discovered that the weekly rate is often less than 5 nights. So eventhough we are staying 6 nights, we are better off renting the whole week.

Azazel

[Jaosousa]

If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.Good post.

[SavePros321]

Anyone that's been to Sosua lately seen this brotha? I'm hoping he is still around when I get there. Says he is cooking Thursday thru Sunday. Judging from the video he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to ribs!

BigD's Place BBQ on Sosua Beach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_b9jfw6sBw

[Manizales911]

Anyone that's been to Sosua lately seen this brotha? I'm hoping he is still around when I get there. Says he is cooking Thursday thru Sunday. Judging from the video he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to ribs!

BigD's Place BBQ on Sosua Beach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_b9jfw6sBwI've eaten at Big D's a bunch of times, good stuff. Problem is you never know when he's going to be open, the last three times I went there he was closed.

[Mr Enternational]

Anyone that's been to Sosua lately seen this brotha? I'm hoping he is still around when I get there. Says he is cooking Thursday thru Sunday. Judging from the video he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to ribs!

BigD's Place BBQ on Sosua Beach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_b9jfw6sBwAte there the week before last. It was pretty good, but if Rocky's had more meat on the bones...

[Manizales911]

Manizales & Gang,

I was afraid of that with the villas. I thought having a private pool and jacuzzi to get wild in would be great, but I don't want to have to be quiet at night while we skinny dip. LOL. Does anyone know for sure if;

http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/

Is chica friendly? Those are right in the thick of it and absolutely luxurious. Both Hispaniola Beach and Infiniti Blue are much farther, but even more luxurious I think. With 3 of us I see us renting a car anyway, but it would be nice if we diddn't have to. I also discovered that the weekly rate is often less than 5 nights. So eventhough we are staying 6 nights, we are better off renting the whole week.

AzazelIn any condo or villa you stand a chance of getting thrown out if you make a bunch of noise at 3 a. M. Outside and wake your neighbors. Same thing can happen in a hotel for that matter. I've been tossed from two villas and a condo for being too loud but I have also made a ruckus and didn't have a problem, it depends on who your neighbors are and not necessarily dependent on the particular facility, if someone complains you are warned and if the watchyman comes back a second time you're out.

[Jaosousa]

Manizales & Gang,

I was afraid of that with the villas. I thought having a private pool and jacuzzi to get wild in would be great, but I don't want to have to be quiet at night while we skinny dip. LOL. Does anyone know for sure if;

http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/

Is chica friendly? Those are right in the thick of it and absolutely luxurious. Both Hispaniola Beach and Infiniti Blue are much farther, but even more luxurious I think. With 3 of us I see us renting a car anyway, but it would be nice if we diddn't have to. I also discovered that the weekly rate is often less than 5 nights. So eventhough we are staying 6 nights, we are better off renting the whole week.

AzazelCar rental for a first time visit, not necessary for Sosua (unless you want to go and play golf often or visit cabarete often or want to visit puerto plata often). Airport is 10 minutes from Sosua. You could send ISG member Mark Anthony a PM to get more about info about blue bayou condo rental or send blue bayou an email and ask them about their guest / visitors policy. Many condos in Sosua are owned by English speaking persons, who rent out the condos when they are not in Sosua. Taking the 125cc motorcycle taxis short distances is no great pain, fare should be under 50 pesos.

[Scotch]

Hotel- I stayed at the sosua bay resort.

It was ok no problem with guests, but the food was like a high school lunch room.

Rate of Cash= 38. 9 for 1us

Girls all over day time or night time.

1500 for short or all night is all I paid. Cheap compare to Rio.

Clubs. I went to Classico 5 nights and 1 night to afther 1.

The same girls minus the ones that were pick up in classico, The rest go to afther one.

Over all nice 7 day trip.

Big D is open me and My buddies ate there. I had the chicken is was good and my two friends had the Ribs and said they were great.

This is 4 you Vets that go to Classico. There is a Mocha colored girl with nice stright hair maybe a wave and a body to die 4.

She looks like a Amazon Model but seem to suck up 4 me and I alway go by Vibe.

I talk to a guy from the US who was talking to her and he said she wanted 6k.

He said she was not budgeing I guess with Westen U guys sending you money you don't have to.

BTW he did take her it was my last night so don't if she was worth it. Eventhough 6k is only 150us and for all night not bad 4 her looks.

In New York she would charge 2 to 300us or more for a hour.

I will be back in April. I also never saw the police arrest any girls day or night 4 being alone.

2 pic attach. The girl in Blue was a hookup From a Nice driver slash Pimp. He took me to some bar / club were she met us in POP.

Its was a waste of time she's a dead fish in the short stay and wanted 800us per month to be my girl friend, because she love me and wanted to quit hoeing.

Well she seem like she quit cause she sucks. I gave her 1500, gave the driver 2000 for the round trip and hook up. Plus spent another 1200 on drinks and food.

Never ever never ever agian, But she is fine with a bunch of Westen U boyfriend I am sure.

The one in pink a classico girl she was good and I did her friend the next night she was also good.

[SavePros321]

Hotel- I stayed at the sosua bay resort.

It was ok no problem with guests, but the food was like a high school lunch room.

Rate of Cash= 38. 9 for 1us

Girls all over day time or night time.

1500 for short or all night is all I paid. Cheap compare to Rio.

Clubs. I went to Classico 5 nights and 1 night to afther 1.

The same girls minus the ones that were pick up in classico, The rest go to afther one.

Over all nice 7 day trip.

Big D is open me and My buddies ate there. I had the chicken is was good and my two friends had the Ribs and said they were great.

This is 4 you Vets that go to Classico. There is a Mocha colored girl with nice stright hair maybe a wave and a body to die 4.

She looks like a Amazon Model but seem to suck up 4 me and I alway go by Vibe.

I talk to a guy from the US who was talking to her and he said she wanted 6k.

He said she was not budgeing I guess with Westen U guys sending you money you don't have to.

BTW he did take her it was my last night so don't if she was worth it. Eventhough 6k is only 150us and for all night not bad 4 her looks.

In New York she would charge 2 to 300us or more for a hour.

I will be back in April. I also never saw the police arrest any girls day or night 4 being alone.

2 pic attach. The girl in Blue was a hookup From a Nice driver slash Pimp. He took me to some bar / club were she met us in POP.

Its was a waste of time she's a dead fish in the short stay and wanted 800us per month to be my girl friend, because she love me and wanted to quit hoeing.

Well she seem like she quit cause she sucks. I gave her 1500, gave the driver 2000 for the round trip and hook up. Plus spent another 1200 on drinks and food.

Never ever never ever agian, But she is fine with a bunch of Westen U boyfriend I am sure.

The one in pink a classico girl she was good and I did her friend the next night she was also good.OUT-FUCKING STANDING REPORT BRO! FIVE STARS! Definitely someone who RTFF and hit the ground running. Thank you for the photos and the intel update as well!

[Zedman99]

OUT-FUCKING STANDING REPORT BRO! FIVE STARS! Definitely someone who RTFF and hit the ground running. Thank you for the photos and the intel update as well!I'm headin' to Sosua soon. Glad to hear everything is going well there. Never did care for guys trying to pimp or take me to bars where there are "better chicas". Seems like scotch could have got the "Classico Amazon" instead of takin' the total bill for "the dead fish" as he affectionately called her. But like he said "Overall nice trip"

That's what counts.

Zedman

[Azazel42]

Car rental for a first time visit, not necessary for Sosua (unless you want to go and play golf often or visit cabarete often or want to visit puerto plata often). Airport is 10 minutes from Sosua. You could send ISG member Mark Anthony a PM to get more about info about blue bayou condo rental or send blue bayou an email and ask them about their guest / visitors policy. Many condos in Sosua are owned by English speaking persons, who rent out the condos when they are not in Sosua. Taking the 125cc motorcycle taxis short distances is no great pain, fare should be under 50 pesos.Jaosousa,

First of all; I want to tell you that I have enjoyed all of your many posts and pics man, and on behalf of all of the fellow ISG members and myself who have been prevy to the plethora of useful knowledge that you have provided us. Thank you Jaosousa. With that said, I am abolutely stoked to embark on my first DR mission in 3 weeks. I just want to be comfy, and maybe get a view of the ocean out of a window or balcony. Idealy, I want to be close enuff to the action that I can stumble home, but do you think that the condos are a better value for 3 guys? Dollars and cents wise, we're looking at about $600 US per head x 3 for 6 nights in any of the 3 hotels we have narrowed it to (Sosua Bay resort, Terralinda, and New Garden new Jacuzzi rooms) I think that for $1800. 00 US (or hopefully less) we should be able to rent a bad ass 3/3 plus either beachfront Penthouse or Villa for an entire week. Am I expecting too much. Blue Bayou is good in luxury and perfect in location, but do they have 3/3? I will contact Mark Anthony as you suggested, and inquire about the apartment. Thanks again and happy mongering.

P. S. I appreciate all the feedback guys, but I think Jackson would probably appreciate if we moved this to the appropriately named " Sosua Hotel Forum ". I will promptly and appreciatively reply to any responses to this post, but I will post the remainder of my hotel questions there.

Azazel

[Bumwajob]

I want to thank you guys for all the valuable information. When I have read posts about guys and their "novias", I thought I would never be such a sucker. I am home a week now and can't stop thinking about the little cutie I met in Sosua. She is in love with me and kisses my pictuce befor bed at night. Even though you know it's all bullshit, I can see how you can get sucked in. Every morning a man called for her. She said it was her brother but I'll bet it was her pimp husband. She has "called me" (rings and hangs up) twice since I'm home but has not asked for money yet. I spent a couple of days at Black beards. It is a nice place with some cute girls but the sex was lame compared to Sosua. It was my first time but I hope not the last.

[Jaosousa]

I think that for $1800. 00 US (or hopefully less) we should be able to rent a bad ass 3/3 plus either beachfront Penthouse or Villa for an entire week. Am I expecting too much.

AzazelManizales and other guys have info on places that can accommodate 3 guys.

Thanks for the kind words. From recent photos and trip reports, Sosua will have plenty of pretty chicas for you and your friends. Sosua is a pleasant town, easy to walk around, you can have fun there. The largest place I stayed at in Sosua was el neptuno, two bedroom, two bathroom apartments.

Casa los Suenos in Sosua is 5 bedrooms; http://www.casalossuenos.com/. I remember reading posts where guys rented Villa California in the playa chiquita section of sosua, (3 bedroom villa). I remember a post that occurred at the villa california, that included naked women and a Dominican midget (A Dominican midget used to hang out in the bars in Sosua and Puerto Plata). Playa Chiquita in Sosua, had or still has a casino and disco, that stayed open late.

[BondStyle]

If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.

[BondStyle]

There's so many great info on here. I wish I had more time to read more of the forum.

[Frannie]

How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.It just depends what you want to pay and what your negotiating skills are like. I was in Sosua the other day and I wasn't really looking for a girl per se (just browsing) , but I was accosted by an extraordinarily attractive (to me) girl whom I had never seen before. She asked me to spend some time with her and I told her that she was gorgeous, but I had very little money on me. She asked how much I had. I said 1000 pesos. She said "I'll take your 1000 pesos", so off we went.

She seemed rather inexperienced with regards to the sexual part of the transaction, but willing to please.

If it is important to you not to pay much for sex, then you can certainly get laid for as little as 1000 pesos, (or less actually) , but realistically if you are new to the scene and not prepared to walk if your bid is not accepted, then anything from 1200 up to 2000 pesos is not really unreasonable. If you are going to Sosua for the first time for a few days sex vacation, I would budget plenty of money and not work yourself into too much of a sweat over prices. On the other hand you should know enough to recognize that if a girl is asking for 3000 pesos and up, then you probably don't have to pay that much. These girls are not licensed professionals. They will ask for what they think they can get, or sometimes they will ask for more money if they don't really want to go with you, and hope to put you off. In my opinion it is always better to go for the girl who you feel you have good chemistry with, rather than just head for the best looking girl prepared to outbid all competition as this strategy will not necessarily pay off with a better sexual experience.

What is the right price? The right price is the price that both parties voluntarily agree to.

You are not likely to find Dominican women in Sosua looking for recreational sex with foreigners without money changing hands. Yes, you can get sex without paying if the girl thinks you are a good longer term relationship prospect, though in the long run this will almost certainly cost more than paying for instasex.

[Sammy Sosa]

Hmm. The two times I stayed at New Garden (before discovering TL) Alfred (the German guy) was still running the place and this policy was in full effect. I guess Lorenzo doesn't enforce it though.No. Was at NG this week and did not need to escort anybody out.

[Sammy Sosa]

How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.As a newbie, spanish-speaker, negotiated 1k. 1.5k for "a few hours", and paid 1. 5k. 2k. They were all clearly happy with that.

[Sammy Sosa]

Car rental for a first time visit, not necessary for Sosua (unless you want to go and play golf often or visit cabarete often or want to visit puerto plata often).. Or go meet Chicas in Los Charamicos, pay a visit to a Cupid Santiagena or end up nights in small bars along the carratera with that wild pot-smoking chick.

I personally intend to rent a car for all future trips to DR.

[Sammy Sosa]

If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua.I respectfully disagree.

At Sosua, looking carefully, I met plenty of chicks that were not hardcore at all. Usually going for those more conservatively dressed, younger, standing aside and shy-looking, often in noisy places or earlier in the day. Offered them a beer in a more quiet bar. Then go dancing if affinity. Then negotiation if I like her.

I still relied primarily on my Cupid "rollodex", but Sosua was great backup.

[Mr Gogo]

No. Was at NG this week and did not need to escort anybody out.Hey Sammy. The policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. It protects the guy and the establishment. Its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. Theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. I'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" I didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known I was in trouble".

[DeepMmpactt]

As a newbie, spanish-speaker, negotiated 1k. 1.5k for "a few hours", and paid 1. 5k. 2k. They were all clearly happy with that.Ok, me and a fellow monger have a good natured bet, I told him I found a chica, in Sosua, and we have been, texting back and forth, and she NEVER, EVER, have asked me for ANYTHING. I must admit I cringe for the puta sob story, and brace for impact! Mayday! Mayday! And she has never onced, asked for a single, peso, I told my boy Puta Romeo, I'm going to take care of her, when I get to Sosua, and I will bring her gifts, The bet was I dare not, put this information on ISG, or Ill be sorry, but he doesn't realize, I don't care. And I love the mongering opinions hefe. Shoutout Tomjackin, Coolie "7ft""High, Alwayshorny2, jaososua, Mr Enternational, Bbq ribs, so prepare too fire, but not only am I "ISG bullet proof" I got many homies! Fire!

[Revere]

Ok, me and a fellow monger have a good natured bet, I told him I found a chica, in Sosua, and we have been, texting back and forth, and she NEVER, EVER, have asked me for ANYTHING. I must admit I cringe for the puta sob story, and brace for impact! Mayday! Mayday! And she has never onced, asked for a single, peso, I told my boy Puta Romeo, I'm going to take care of her, when I get to Sosua, and I will bring her gifts, The bet was I dare not, put this information on ISG, or Ill be sorry, but he doesn't realize, I don't care. And I love the mongering opinions hefe. Shoutout Tomjackin, Coolie "7ft""High, Alwayshorny2, jaososua, Mr Enternational, Bbq ribs, so prepare too fire, but not only am I "ISG bullet proof" I got many homies! Fire!I just bought my novia's brother a used playstation for $40 dollars. I tip the maid when I leave. I like being nice and giving gifts. You get a more dedicated women in my opinion. I know my novia does not make a lot at her job and lives in a three room house with her mother and step father and two little brothers and sister. Someone said do not bring any gifts to the family. I just cannot be that cheap. I bang a chick all week like 20 times and I give her like $200. 00 dollars and a couple gifts. I can go to a club in new York and spend that in a night and get no pussy, but maybe a phone number. My mother always told me treat people how you want to be treated and I do not like being around cheap people. Life is to short.

[Manizales911]

Hey Sammy. The policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. It protects the guy and the establishment. Its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. Theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. I'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" I didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known I was in trouble".I agree. If I stay at a place that doesn't require me to walk the girl out (New Garden) I just tell the person at the front desk or the watchyman not to give the girl her I'd back unless I walk her out or I call down and give them the okay. Most of these lazy mongers wouldn't last a day in Colombia or other places in south america not using common sense.

[Coupe66]

I am aware who Sammy Sosa is. He was the second cousin of one of my first chicas in the DR. In the real world where such minority sports are totally ignored that is probably his greater claim to fame.

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?Speaking as a fellow Brit which I suppose you are I don't see the need to put down Baseball in this way. Slagging off Belgium is another particularly curious British trait for some misguided reason. What do you mean name a famous Belgian? Here are a few off the top of my head, Hergé (writer of Tintin) Adolphe Sax (inventer of the saxophone, Mercator (Maps) , Eddie Mercx (5 times winner of the Tour de France) , Peter Paul Ruebens, Pieter Bruegel & René Magritte (all very famous painters) , Georges Simenon (probably the most published french language fiction author of all time) , Jean-Claude Van Damme, Audrey Hepburn (actors) , Jacques Rogge (IOC president) , Helmut Van Rompuy (EU president) , Justine Henin & Kim Clijsters (both former world number 1 tennis players). So please less of the cultural stereotyping.

[Mr Enternational]

And she has never onced, asked for a single, peso, I told my boy Puta Romeo, I'm going to take care of her, when I get to Sosua, and I will bring her gifts,LOL. Why?

I just bought my novia's brother a used playstation for $40 dollars. I tip the maid when I leave. I like being nice and giving gifts. You get a more dedicated women in my opinion. I know my novia does not make a lot at her job and lives in a three room house with her mother and step father and two little brothers and sister. Someone said do not bring any gifts to the family. I just cannot be that cheap.You do realize that you are causing more harm that help right? You put a playstation in their house so now the light bill will be much higher. And who will be responsible for paying that? If I have to pay someone and give them many gifts to be dedicated then that is the type of dedication that I could do without.

Maybe it is just me. Maybe the problem is that I have too many "novias" every damn where so for me it is neither feasible nor possible to bring gifts and give money to every body. Yesterday a fellow member was asking me about a particular woman, non-pro, and I just simply did not know the answer. This is what I told him, "I guess the ass looks good. You know how many chicks I have fucked since then in the last what 15 days? 4 alone the day after that. They all start to run together." So it's not really that I think you guys should not do what you do, but for me myself to try to do such a thing would really be ridiculous speaking from a volume standpoint. I would not have enough money to spread around to all of them and I would not have enough space to bring so many gifts. I think my equivalent is the same as I did with my novia in Salcedo. We went to buy fish, I paid for it (280 pesos if I remember correctly), we took it back to her house, the maid (or whoever that lady was) cooked it, we all ate, and everybody was happy. No BlackBerrys, no putting money in anybody's purse, no giving her daughter a brand new or used bicycle, none of that stuff.

And these are the types of messages I get after: 2/25/2012 6:50:53 PM j: te quiero y ahora mas que ante

[Orgasmico]

How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.As far as the girls in the clubs, bars, street, the tighter your game, the less you may have to pay, if at all. When I say game, I mean whatever it is you have going on that might attract women. Speaking spanish good will also greatly enhance your attractiveness, chemistry and negotiating power and overall experience.

If she just got her shipment from her Western Union novio or one of the New Yorkers has just left after showering her with money and gifts, they might be paying for your freebie or discount, if she is feeling you.

A lot of factors can come into play. If the girls weren't in Sosua, they most likely would be in the campo or at home drinking beers and screwing for next to nothing anyway so there are plenty of freaks around. There is probably a chulo smashing them for free as well. Throwing money around doesn't necessarily gain you respect since you are a gringo and its expected in many cases.

There are some pics floating around online and a friend even e-mailed them to me of a guy on bended knee recently proposing, ring and all, to Daniella in Clasicos. She's a cute girl, but it just goes to show that some dudes can get caught out there. Pussy is like a drug so have a great time and keep it in perspective. Whatever you want to spend, you can find some type of fun for that price. Also, day game is a good option sometimes if you're price conscious, as opposed to trying to do things in prime time, or the wee hours can sometimes present bargains. You'll get a better feel for it when you touch ground and start talking to the girls.

[Jaosousa]

At least that's what you may like to think anyway, . From what I have heard most of the chicas there start out pretty young, so by the time you get to her at "semi-pro" status she may have already surpassed the 100 dick threshold and may just be throttling back, LOL!

The truth is, if you are not living there 24/7, 365 days a year, there is absolutely no way of telling what a chica is up to when you are not there. Not all chicas engage in sex only for money. Women also have their (local Dominican) guys that can fuck for free due to mutual attraction (classmates, co-workers, cousins, etc.). It's as easy as her making the phone call.

Also, it only takes one guy with AIDS to infect a chica with his disease. Doesn't matter if she is high-mileage or a non-pro.

At least in Sosua you know exactly what you are getting into. This guy sums it up best:

REBOOT!Some Sosua guys are just plain delusional, to hang onto to the belief that Sosua is the best monger spot in DR. For guys who have absolutely no game, thank god there is a Sosua, for them. Many Sosua chicas live in and around Sosua, don't go to university and don't have a normal job. They spend a good percentage of their waking hours in the p4p game. I did trips to Sosua and have absolutely zero desire to revisit sosua. I remember taking a chica out of classicos early for a short time session, I popped a load in her mouth, and within 15 minutes of me popping a load in her mouth, she was back at classicos trolling, looking all sweet and innocent, with some of my sperm still swimming around in her mouth, to hook up with her next client. Sosua is a small town with 90% pros. When I used to go to Sosua over 3 years ago, the better looking chicas were asking for and getting $100US. I would imagine the same is happening now, the better looking chicas in sosua could be getting $100 or more. Passions in Sosua is probably over $100 if you take a chica out early. 1000 or 1500 pesos Sosua chicas could be doing multiple guys per day.

Sosua has no great hotels, no great casinos, the beach has rocks and sea urchins. The most obnoxious people I have ever come across while in the DR have been in Sosua, from wannabe tough guy foreign mongers in classicos, to obnoxious Dominicans, to obnoxious old female foreign cougars, to rip off thieving sosua chicas, all I have encountered in Sosua.

I date police officers and dentists and doctors in santo domingo. Population of Santo Domingo is 100 times greater than Sosua. Simple logic, the place with the greater population has more chicas. For the mongers who want low cost chicas, recently Mr Go Go was quoted 600 pesos by a freelancer in Santo Domingo. GBP two chicas for 1500 pesos (750 pesos per chica) , place opens at 2pm, you won't get robbed there. If you want higher end above average looking chicas, santo domingo has more. No matter what facts are presented or logic, some Sosua mongers will hold to the delusion that Sosua is the be all, end all, the nirvana, the Shangri-la of mongering in DR.

Normal chicas outside of sosua have jobs where they work 8-10 hours per day, sometimes on Saturdays and they may also go to university at night. It doesn't give them much free time to go out and suck multiple dicks per day, like some Sosua chicas.

One Dominican GF I had, lives outside santo domingo. If and when I wanted, I could ask her to put a webcam on at her office and see her in her office, where she works a normal job. When she gets home from work, I can ask her to put the webcam on and watch her on webcam until she falls asleep, around 10pm or 11pm (her day starts at 6am). I have met her family and friends. Her pussy is as tight as a clam-shell (no exaggeration) and she has no children, slim and pretty. I am not a paranoid loser, so I don't call her 24/7 to see where she is or ask what she is doing, but I could and she would pick up the phone and put on her webcam. If she wants to go out and fuck some other guy, I have no control over her behavior, she is not a slave, not a zombie, not an automaton (she has free will) , I have a degree of trust with her and as I previously mentioned I could talk to her or see her, almost 24/7 if I wanted, so it is highly improbable that she is fucking someone else). Some guys on this site believe all DR chicas are the same and it seems to mostly come from guys who basically only know Sosua and Puerta Plata.

Seems to me some guys on this site only have experience with Sosua pros and believe all Dominican woman are like the Sosua pros. Some guys are afraid to venture out of Sosua and see something different in DR.

Better for me and better for other guys who don't monger in Sosua, if all Sosua mongers stayed in Sosua and out of other areas of the DR, however to me, this forum should be about posting honest information.

One aids infected Sosua monger sport fucking multiple 1000-1500 sosua pros, could potentially spread the disease to multiple chicas. I don't need 100% surety in my life, but I will hedge my bets or try to better my odds of not catching a disease by staying away from high mileage pros. The more dicks a chica has experienced the odds increase that she will encounter an infected one (simple logic).

I am from New York City (or as one ISG member who seems to enjoy a Sosua hard core, crazy, high mileage pro, calls it New York Shitty and the ISG member who spent time in a Dominican jail after a car accident, wrote everyone from new york is a piece of sh_t) , and in New York City there are at least a million Haitians and Dominicans, insult New York and you insult some Haitians and some Dominicans.

[Revere]

I hear you player, but I will not get into an argument with you. To each his own. My thing is that we all live differently. For you banging 15 girls is what you want to do. For me, I want to bang only a 10s with no babies. Your not wrong and neither am I. What the problem is when we try to tell someone to live our way. I do not have time and do not care to tell someone to live my way. Also, great comment about the electric bill going up because of the play station but you did not ask the question did he already have one that was not working as well anymore. The answer is yes it did not work well so I got him another one. I do not think the electric will go up since he already had a playstation in fact it might go down because the other one was not working well and was very slow. Again, I have done well in my life, but I will not throw money in the air in clubs I just spend my money the way I want too. I could send you some messages from girls too that love me, but I do not need to validate my points. Just not me. Again, I will not put people down on this board I am to confident in me to worry about anybody but myself. I am just happy people can get on a plane and have fun.

QUOTE=Revere; 1254868]I just bought my novia's brother a used playstation for $40 dollars. I tip the maid when I leave. I like being nice and giving gifts. You get a more dedicated women in my opinion. I know my novia does not make a lot at her job and lives in a three room house with her mother and step father and two little brothers and sister. Someone said do not bring any gifts to the family. I just cannot be that cheap. I bang a chick all week like 20 times and I give her like $200. 00 dollars and a couple gifts. I can go to a club in new York and spend that in a night and get no pussy, but maybe a phone number. My mother always told me treat people how you want to be treated and I do not like being around cheap people. Life is to short.[/QUOTE]
LOL. Why?

You do realize that you are causing more harm that help right? You put a playstation in their house so now the light bill will be much higher. And who will be responsible for paying that? If I have to pay someone and give them many gifts to be dedicated then that is the type of dedication that I could do without.

Maybe it is just me. Maybe the problem is that I have too many "novias" every damn where so for me it is neither feasible nor possible to bring gifts and give money to every body. Yesterday a fellow member was asking me about a particular woman, non-pro, and I just simply did not know the answer. This is what I told him,"I guess the ass looks good. You know how many chicks I have fucked since then in the last what 15 days? 4 alone the day after that. They all start to run together." So it's not really that I think you guys should not do what you do, but for me myself to try to do such a thing would really be ridiculous speaking from a volume standpoint. I would not have enough money to spread around to all of them and I would not have enough space to bring so many gifts. I think my equivalent is the same as I did with my novia in Salcedo. We went to buy fish, I paid for it (280 pesos if I remember correctly) , we took it back to her house, the maid (or whoever that lady was) cooked it, we all ate, and everybody was happy. No BlackBerrys, no putting money in anybody's purse, no giving her daughter a brand new or used bicycle, none of that stuff.

And these are the types of messages I get after: 2/25/2012 6:50:53 PM j: te quiero why ahora mas que ante

[Tempoecorto]

in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full.pro and if the price is right.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.

[Mr Gogo]

in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full. pro and if the price is right.

p.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.i understand that you just want to promote discussions. but you are going about it in a shallow way. you say" i'm not going to add any valuable insight". why not say what's on your mind and ride with it, instead of throwing a teaser out?

[BondStyle]

Thanks for the info. The prices are okay compared to what a lady of the night would asked for back home. By the way, I just saw a funny short documentary on youtube regarding women getting in on the fun.

Doc: "Rent A Dread, LINK International Productions"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtU3m2M1Ivs

[Berthold]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1254896]You do realize that you are causing more harm that help right? You put a playstation in their house so now the light bill will be much higher. And who will be responsible for paying that? If I have to pay someone and give them many gifts to be dedicated then that is the type of dedication that I could do without.

There is no way that the light bill will go up due to a playstation in a house, the light bill will only go up if have a fridge, freezer, air condition. In your house, by the way keep in mind that 50% of dominicans don't pay for electricity at all, most of my neighbours some illegal connections so that they have electricity, but don't have to pay for it.

http://www.listin.com.do/economia-y-negocios/2010/6/14/146165/Casi-el-50-por-ciento-de-los-usuarios-no-paga-el-servicio-de-energia

[SavePros321]

Some Sosua guys are just plain delusional, to hang onto to the belief that Sosua is the best monger spot in DR.
Have fun wherever you monger.Make up your mind amigo.

Just as an aside: why is it okay for you to come and shit all over the Sosua forum, but then scream "foul" when Frannie had something to say (which was in no way as viriolic) about Santo Domingo? If you remember it was not too long ago that SD was the most currupt place on earth (according to you) when you almost ran over that cop who was trying to chase you down on foot for a bribe; and the most racist (when your hotel wanted $100 for you to take the dark-skinned chica up to your room). You even threatened to never return to the DR again because of it.

The only difference here is that I never see anyone from the Sosua forum just randomly show up one day and start shitting all over the Santo Domingo forum and its mongers for not coming to Sosua. If someone like BoriquaOnline (who has always and only gone to SD) comes to Sosua for the first time and loves it, then that's really all that matters.

It's like you said: have fun wherever you monger.

[Mr Enternational]

There is no way that the light bill will go up due to a playstation in a house, the light bill will only go up if have a fridge, freezer, air condition. In your house, by the way keep in mind that 50% of dominicans don't pay for electricity at all, most of my neighbours some illegal connections so that they have electricity, but don't have to pay for it.Yeah. That is why that was supposed to be considered a joke.

[Revere]

i do not want to keep talking about temps point, but a lot of these women are good girls that grew up in fucked up situations. this not the united states where hard work can get you out of a bad situation. men there beat there women all the time. i had a girl that i liked was not my novia but i saw her and she had a black eye. i cannot save her, but i am not going to treat her like a ***** either. now, do not get me wrong some of those girls are sharks and will steal and lie to you all day long, but i will not hang with them. i do not want to have to take a quick shower because i know i have a shark in the room. i just hope that if we meet a good girl who are decent we are man enough to have a heart and show them respect. i am not preaching just hoping that you do the right thing when you have the chance too.


in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full. pro and if the price is right.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.

[Jaosousa]

Make up your mind amigo.I responded in the Santo Domingo thread.

[Ath Trainer]

I do not want to keep talking about Temps point, but a lot of these women are good girls that grew up in fucked up situations. This not the united states where hard work can get you out of a bad situation. Men there beat there women all the time. I had a girl that I liked was not my novia but I saw her and she had a black eye. I cannot save her, but I am not going to treat her like a ***** either. Now, do not get me wrong some of those girls are sharks and will steal and lie to you all day long, but I will not hang with them. I do not want to have to take a quick shower because I know I have a shark in the room. I just hope that if we meet a good girl who are decent we are man enough to have a heart and show them respect. I am not preaching just hoping that you do the right thing when you have the chance too.I guess they are like other girls. There are some really nice ones. There are some not so nice ones. There are some very bad ones.

[Sammy Sosa]

hey sammy. the policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. it protects the guy and the establishment. its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. i'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" i didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known i was in trouble".ooops! i thought this forum was monger code 101,

for my defense, i read the entire thread (yes, including the archived one). highly recommended for any newbie like me. after all, if you are going to do it, you might as well do it right.

will escort out in the future. i am not the kind to ignore advices from more experienced peers. especially if they are celebrities.

looks like i'll be back in may in sosua. going to give me time to read your thread too.

[Mr Gogo]

ooops! i thought this forum was monger code 101,

for my defense, i read the entire thread (yes, including the archived one). highly recommended for any newbie like me. after all, if you are going to do it, you might as well do it right.

will escort out in the future. i am not the kind to ignore advices from more experienced peers. especially if they are celebrities.

looks like i'll be back in may in sosua. going to give me time to read your thread too.thanks, but i'm still learning also. its just that when i travel i follow all basic safety rules. mani was correct that in colombia one slip and you've got a problem. we tend to relax and take our safety for granted in sosua. if you don't walk the girl out atleast call the desk to say" everything is good".

[Kman1]

Sosua has no great hotels, no great casinos, the beach has rocks and sea urchins. The most obnoxious people I have ever come across while in the DR have been in Sosua, from wannabe tough guy foreign mongers in classicos, to obnoxious Dominicans, to obnoxious old female foreign cougars, to rip off thieving sosua chicas, all I have encountered in Sosua.Jao, this is not the case anymore. Agreed 3 or more years ago this was so true. TL and NG are just fine and more than adequate for mongering. I had a hard time staying at Europa back in the day with the mosquitos and power issues and poor bathtub drains (which as I read is still the case with Sosua Bay, its a no no for me).

Also the 'old female foreign cougars' and 'theiving pickpocket chicas' are all departed.

Sosua is not all hardocore putas, there are numerous visiting out of town chicas who could easily classify as semi pro's. So many of them, I have never seen again, nor seen in any forum, nor been able to reach thru phone, or even if reached thru phone they refused or failed to show up at Sosua.

I did not make it my last planned trip to SD, had to cancel at the last minute, surely will make it next time, so I can experience all that you say. But still I strongly feel it will not beat the Sosua experience for me," I LOVE SOSUA". (borrowing from ilovesosua. Com).

[Kman1]

Hey Sammy. The policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. It protects the guy and the establishment. Its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. Theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. I'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" I didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known I was in trouble".I never thought about the being drugged part, I did not even get it when I first read your post. Does it or has it ever happened? Seems like a far out thought, like the "poison the monger and take all his money plot" from Boricua's post. If I recall right, TL had this escort out policy when they first opened but have done away with it. There must be a reason TL and NG don't do it anymore. And my guess is that those kind of incidents just don't happen in Sosua, (and I don't want to be the first victim either). But still, there are many early bird chicas that are up and ready to leave when you are still clearly exhausted from partying all night, C'mon give the monger a break.

Anyways, thanks for the Mongering 101 lesson, Mr Gogo. Also to add to the contrary, realize it does not help anyone if the hotel doesn't enforce this policy, even if some mongers voluntarily do it.

[The Navys Fault]

It just depends what you want to pay and what your negotiating skills are like. I was in Sosua the other day and I wasn't really looking for a girl per se (just browsing) , but I was accosted by an extraordinarily attractive (to me) girl whom I had never seen before. She asked me to spend some time with her and I told her that she was gorgeous, but I had very little money on me. She asked how much I had. I said 1000 pesos. She said "I'll take your 1000 pesos", so off we went.

She seemed rather inexperienced with regards to the sexual part of the transaction, but willing to please.

If it is important to you not to pay much for sex, then you can certainly get laid for as little as 1000 pesos, (or less actually) , but realistically if you are new to the scene and not prepared to walk if your bid is not accepted, then anything from 1200 up to 2000 pesos is not really unreasonable. If you are going to Sosua for the first time for a few days sex vacation, I would budget plenty of money and not work yourself into too much of a sweat over prices. On the other hand you should know enough to recognize that if a girl is asking for 3000 pesos and up, then you probably don't have to pay that much. These girls are not licensed professionals. They will ask for what they think they can get, or sometimes they will ask for more money if they don't really want to go with you, and hope to put you off. In my opinion it is always better to go for the girl who you feel you have good chemistry with, rather than just head for the best looking girl prepared to outbid all competition as this strategy will not necessarily pay off with a better sexual experience.

What is the right price? The right price is the price that both parties voluntarily agree to.

You are not likely to find Dominican women in Sosua looking for recreational sex with foreigners without money changing hands. Yes, you can get sex without paying if the girl thinks you are a good longer term relationship prospect, though in the long run this will almost certainly cost more than paying for instasex.Frannie,

Great post! I am so excited about my first visit in two weeks. I am going down with a 10+ visits to Sosua friend, so feel I got the good travel guide. Not been in this type mongering situation since Cuba about 10 years ago (been to Medellin twice in last 9 months and heading for it again a few times this year, but Colombia is no DR and vice versa. Not going there with that debate right now). Agree with you on the chemistry and pricing. Rather take a gal who has good attitude and have fun out in the bar with = good time in bedroom. I have 5 days to figure it out!

Thanks! TNF

[Kman1]

in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full. pro and if the price is right.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.quiet a thoughtful post "short time" (tempo corto) , finally looked it up. acceptance as you easily said, is what i am all about too, everyone is different. we are all imperfect, very true. as long as one is not crossing legal borders (like the guy asking about 17 yr old). i agree with not calling the women "bitches and hoes", though some of them actually are. i am talking about the thieving and deceitful ones, that don't keep their word. you can also look at it in a complimentary sense, like "the b itch is hot".

[TomJackin]

I am from New York City or as one ISG member who seems to enjoy a Sosua hard core, crazy, high mileage pro, calls it New York Shitty.That would be me, and BTW, thanks for the compliment. I actually learned that term by two ISG members that live there and they can't wait to escape the place to have real fun. Personally, I've been there three times and have yet to find the fascination of the place. The city is stressful, busy, and driving there is not an option; JMHO of course. Everyone I met from there during my long military career always boosted,"I'm from New York City!" Like it makes a real difference in life. I was born and raised in an inner city in Miami, does in matter, fuck no. It only matters what you do in life, but not where in the hell you lived throughout your life.

I now live in San Diego, one of the most laid back cities in America. And one of the nicest places to live as well. I've talked to guys in Sosua and throughout the world and they do not want to end their vacation and return to Philly or the blessed NYC. They are disappointed to get on a plane to go home, but yet, I'm ready to return home.

After spending 27 years in the military, and romping my ass threw 40+ countries, and exploring 49 of the 50 states (I figured SD was just as good as ND) , I think, maybe only think, that I have some clue to what's going on in life; but maybe not. I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping. And I guess in your eyes there is something wrong with that? I longer give a shit about relationships, but I guess you do; no worries.

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self!

[Mr Gogo]

I never thought about the being drugged part, I did not even get it when I first read your post. Does it or has it ever happened? Seems like a far out thought, like the "poison the monger and take all his money plot" from Boricua's post. If I recall right, TL had this escort out policy when they first opened but have done away with it. There must be a reason TL and NG don't do it anymore. And my guess is that those kind of incidents just don't happen in Sosua, (and I don't want to be the first victim either). But still, there are many early bird chicas that are up and ready to leave when you are still clearly exhausted from partying all night, C'mon give the monger a break.

Anyways, thanks for the Mongering 101 lesson, Mr Gogo. Also to add to the contrary, realize it does not help anyone if the hotel doesn't enforce this policy, even if some mongers voluntarily do it.You have to hurry up and get there so you can posts some of those great pictures.

The report BO posted about girls talking about poisoning has credit with me for several reasons. The main one being that they didn't think he understood Spanish, so they felt free to tell secrets. That was a very telling post that should raise a flag to all mongerers. I always make a girl take a shower first, know why? Because I heard of girls spiking their titties. A guy is in such a rush to fuck and suck that he never knew what happened until he wakes up. Has this ever happened to me? No. Do I know anyone thats its happened to? No. Would I be a fool to think it never will? Yes.

Any responsible monger would always make sure his brothers maintain awareness. Just because the hotel doesn't enforce this policy doesn't mean we shouldn't either. We are our own brothers keeper here. If a brother is too exhausted from partying all night to atleast escort a girl out of our "safe zone", then maybe we are setting ourselves up.

As far as the Sosua girls now not being hardcore, I don't agree. Most of those weekend girls from out of town are Santo Domingo or Santiago weekend hustlers. They usually work in teams. They usually go for the quick money fucks. Before you had that newbie who was from Mantellano or Puerto Plata who wanted to meet a nice guy and spend as much of his vacation with him as possible. They would invite you to their home for a home cooked meal, they would get excited about an afternoon date to Cabarete, they would go to the beach (Playa Grande not Sousa) with their weekend boyfriend, they would cry when you departure day arrived. Shit, nowadays these girls don't even want a repeat date, its on to the next guy. Thats pretty hardcore to me.

But lets not let the mongerer off the hook. I remember a few years ago when breakfast at NG was full of couples, now its just guys boasting. I remember before seeing guys walking around holding girls hands. I remember when there were so many girls during the day that guys didn't go out at night for girls. Before guys took their girlfriends to Classicos, now Classicos is for meeting a girl for an hour fuck. Before mongeres developed such a comfort zone that they spent freely and walked around with a lot of money, hence the few pick pockets.

Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.

[Tempoecorto]

Quiet a thoughtful post "short time" (tempo corto) , finally looked it up. Acceptance as you easily said, is what I am all about too, everyone is different. We are all imperfect, very true. As long as one is not crossing legal borders (like the guy asking about 17 yr old). I agree with not calling the women "bitches and hoes", though some of them actually are. I am talking about the thieving and deceitful ones, that don't keep their word. You can also look at it in a complimentary sense, like "the b itch is hot".My only point was that if there are "bitches and hoes" among women, and I completely agree there are, aren't there similar types among the males (I would not know the apt words to describe) as well? It is all about what the statisticians call a normal distribution.

On the legality of it, again, no doubt, but hopefully we are mostly grown ups here with a sense of what is and what is not right. I am impressed (and envious) by the likes of Tom Jackin, who I learned today has traversed practically one third the earth. If that does not teach a thing or two, what would?

I met people who can speak to me about Hobbes, Locke and Roussau - young women studying law and medicine - smart minds....Personally, I am also bent towards sex with soul and so yes, just plain romping is not my thing -like some here and unlike some here...but to each his own.

This forum, for me, is a place to learn from others' knowledge (and there are plenty of such helpful people here - I am always impressed by Jao's going out the way, and I read it as being kind and generous if you will, to provide information which as a selfish sob, I would not do but I also cannot figure out his SD state of mind, after all others have a right to think differently - as they say in Laissez-Faire) and mistakes and who knows even meet a few like minded people. Personally, I am not here to prove anything or to shoot anyone down. I chose my pen name to mean my time is "running out" in that the count-down has begun. LOL.

[Tempoecorto]

......Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.That was a beautiful and moving account of "the way we were". Thanks so much Gogo for being a fine raconteur of history.

[SavePros321]

As far as the Sosua girls now not being hardcore, I don't agree. Most of those weekend girls from out of town are Santo Domingo or Santiago weekend hustlers. They usually work in teams. They usually go for the quick money fucks. Before you had that newbie who was from Mantellano or Puerto Plata who wanted to meet a nice guy and spend as much of his vacation with him as possible. They would invite you to their home for a home cooked meal, they would get excited about an afternoon date to Cabarete, they would go to the beach (Playa Grande not Sousa) with their weekend boyfriend, they would cry when you departure day arrived. Shit, nowadays these girls don't even want a repeat date, its on to the next guy. Thats pretty hardcore to me.

But lets not let the mongerer off the hook. I remember a few years ago when breakfast at NG was full of couples, now its just guys boasting. I remember before seeing guys walking around holding girls hands. I remember when there were so many girls during the day that guys didn't go out at night for girls. Before guys took their girlfriends to Classicos, now Classicos is for meeting a girl for an hour fuck. Before mongeres developed such a comfort zone that they spent freely and walked around with a lot of money, hence the few pick pockets.

Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.This "transformation" was probably in progress by the time I became aware of and started to visit Sosua. But I think if people look at Sosua as nothing more than "Bangkok West" then they will be more comfortable with what to expect and what they are getting into. You would definitely not to be holding hands and acting as a couple with any pro you ran into in the Red Light Districts of Bangkok or Pattaya; and honestly I would feel uncomfortable doing that with pros I meet in Sosua (I will hold her hand as we navigate through the sidewalk crowds on the way back to my room though).

I've always assumed that if I wanted the true girlfriend experience (dinner dates, movies, picnic at the park / beach, etc.) I could always (eventually) go elsewhere on the island. But that would require you to commit to just one female for the most part, which is pretty hard to do in Sosua since there are many chicas to choose from in such a small setting. There is just too much "temptation" roaming around day and night, LOL. And this was the first impression I got of Sosua upon my first visit (to Classicos via Blackbeard's) : that this is a place where guys come to bang multiple women with no strings attached; and that chicas come to make as much money as they can; turning as many tricks as they can before Sunday rolls around and they roll out of town. I probably would have never gotten that impression if only "some" of the chicas in Classico's were pros sprinkled in with regular non-pros; but "ALL" of the chicas up in there were pros, lol!

I'll admit that I am not a "one girl's guy" and at first I thought it had something to do with my (young) age. But seeing as though Tomjackin and Manizales are older than me and still have the same mindset, I think Sosua attracts people of our thinking (when it comes to pros):



I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping...I longer give a shit about relationships...

I guess this would be our anthem:

"I'm not a one girl's guy

And they know it, when it comes to love I don't lie

And the girls respect me for it

Ain't going to say my nose can't be open

But right now it's just too many fine ladies out there

To choose one from..."

Girls, Girls, Girls pt. 2 (remix). Jay Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M25lnBq4A0

[Frannie]

This "transformation" was probably in progress by the time I became aware of and started to visit Sosua. But I think if people look at Sosua as nothing more than "Bangkok West" then they will be more comfortable with what to expect and what they are getting into. You would definitely not to be holding hands and acting as a couple with any pro you ran into in the Red Light Districts of Bangkok or Pattaya; and honestly I would feel uncomfortable doing that with pros I meet in Sosua (I will hold her hand as we navigate through the sidewalk crowds on the way back to my room though).What you say is quite understandable and I would agree with most of it. However you do see quite a lot of couples walking around holding hands, arm in arm, etc. Probably some of them are expatriates who live in or around Sosua and have regular girl friends. It seems to be a usual pattern that I have observed over some years that guys who go to live in the area eventually hook up with some favorita and become more-or-less sexually monogamous, at least to the extent that they would not be seen holding hands with another in the street. But some of them must be visitors / vacationers, so presumably it is still possible to hook up in some manner if that is what you want. If you are young and hang with a particular group, you might not notice these guys, many of whom are older and / or European, if they fly under your radar, but if you look there are plenty of them in the various restaurants around the town at breakfast or dinner time dining with their Dominican paramours.

[Jaosousa]

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self!Thanks for the compliment, so nice of you.

My father was in the US Military and always told me when the Navy guys showed up in some town in Korea, the p4p prices always went up. How long does it take to travel from San Diego to Puerto Plata? I used to live in San Diego, maybe you enjoy the Hillcrest neighborhood (I had Thai friends who used to work in a good Thai restaurant there. Or maybe you live in El Cajon). You grew up in Miami and live near Mexico, I am sure your Spanish must be good.

I lived in New York City for over 40 years and met people from all over the world, who live in New York City. I know Jews, Muslims, people from different African tribes, Jamaicans, Colombians, Italians, Greeks, Chinese, Koreans and others in New York City.

I haven't been in Sosua in years, another ISG member wrote that my Sosua information was dated, so maybe you can give me some up to date info. I believe in one of your posts you stated that you had a session with the well known Patricia. What was the cost of that session? One pop or multiple pops? Bareback? Did she allow photos? I have read on this forum from a guy who has been to Sosua numerous times, that the rumor is that Patricia may have aids (she seems to have several religious themed tattoos, so maybe she is preparing for the afterlife). You having been in the US Military you can get free medical treatment through the Veterans Affairs Department, paid for by the US Government, so if you happen to get an illness in Sosua, you can get free medical treatment. I don't have free medical treatment, so I have to be more careful where I dip my dick. You are much more fortunate than me in that regard.

[Tempoecorto]

I'll admit that I am not a "one girl's guy" and at first I thought it had something to do with my (young) age. But seeing as though Tomjackin and Manizales are older than me and still have the same mindset, I think Sosua attracts people of our thinking (when it comes to pros):Interesting summary / raison the / etre of Sosua! I think that is quite the beauty of this forum. That there are different people with different inclinations.

On the matter of Bangkok as mentioned by you, I do think, taking a leaf out of Frannie's thought, that I noted two groups of people in Bangkok, in KL, Singapore and in Jakarta. The tourists who are "go in and out" crowd looking for numbers and then the expats who after a while hang out with someone local so your modus operandi is a good fit.

In fact, during my trip to Sosua, I met a Canadian woman with her two children at the upscale Bar Bologna who had just moved down there. And then I met a German older man with a young local woman and a little baby, eating at the same place. Vive la difference!

[Mr Enternational]

This "transformation" was probably in progress by the time I became aware of and started to visit Sosua. But I think if people look at Sosua as nothing more than "Bangkok West" then they will be more comfortable with what to expect and what they are getting into. You would definitely not to be holding hands and acting as a couple with any pro you ran into in the Red Light Districts of Bangkok or Pattaya; and honestly I would feel uncomfortable doing that with pros I meet in Sosua (I will hold her hand as we navigate through the sidewalk crowds on the way back to my room though).All I see here in Pattaya is farang holding hands and hugged up with their hookers. They even do the same with the ladyboys and all I can do is Shake My Damn Head. The night before last in the Philippines I took a girl and she tried to hold my hand walking down the street. I said there'll be none of that babe. Granted, if you are spending the money then you should make it the kind of experience you want. I'm just not personally keen on being romantic with the paid help.


I've always assumed that if I wanted the true girlfriend experience (dinner dates, movies, picnic at the park / beach, etc.) I could always (eventually) go elsewhere on the island. But that would require you to commit to just one female for the most part, which is pretty hard to do in Sosua since there are many chicas to choose from in such a small setting. There is just too much "temptation" roaming around day and night, LOL. And this was the first impression I got of Sosua upon my first visit (to Classicos via Blackbeard's) : that this is a place where guys come to bang multiple women with no strings attached;While I do enjoy a GFE, if I really wanted one then I would just get a girlfriend. It's starting to look like girlfriends are a thing of the past in DR. Most chicas are requiring money and gifts now in exchange for their companionship. And if I wanted to do that then I would just assume pay a hooker.


I'll admit that I am not a "one girl's guy" and at first I thought it had something to do with my (young) age. But seeing as though Tomjackin and Manizales are older than me and still have the same mindset, I think Sosua attracts people of our thinking (when it comes to pros):I second the notion. Some people are addicted to crack, some to alcohol, some to gambling, some to church; I just happen to be addicted to women. Is there a rehab for that or should I even want to go to one?

[Jaosousa]

That would be me, and BTW, thanks for the compliment. I actually learned that term by two ISG members that live there and they can't wait to escape the place to have real fun. Personally, I've been there three times and have yet to find the fascination of the place. The city is stressful, busy, and driving there is not an option; JMHO of course. Everyone I met from there during my long military career always boosted,"I'm from New York City!" Like it makes a real difference in life. I was born and raised in an inner city in Miami, does in matter, fuck no. It only matters what you do in life, but not where in the hell you lived throughout your life.

I now live in San Diego, one of the most laid back cities in America. And one of the nicest places to live as well. I've talked to guys in Sosua and throughout the world and they do not want to end their vacation and return to Philly or the blessed NYC. They are disappointed to get on a plane to go home, but yet, I'm ready to return home.

After spending 27 years in the military, and romping my ass threw 40+ countries, and exploring 49 of the 50 states (I figured SD was just as good as ND) , I think, maybe only think, that I have some clue to what's going on in life; but maybe not. I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping. And I guess in your eyes there is something wrong with that? I longer give a shit about relationships, but I guess you do; no worries.

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self!
Thanks for the reply Mr. ET, from what I understand the actual owner of SBY is the owner of Classicos, and he wants to get rid of Glenys. Funny thing, her and her boss were not as visible on the property none of the 6 days this trip, but on my two other stays you always see them. One of the female employees verbally compared Glenys to a dog. Then her boss parks his BMW 8 cylinder up front at guess drop off. I think there is hostility between the administration and the staff. They are thinking the owner will change the administration soon, and Glenys will be goneSan Diego has a large US military presence. In the nearby City of Coronado, I believe the navy seals team train (nearby the hotel coronado where parts of "Some like it Hot" was filmed with marilyn monroe). Big Naval Base in San Diego and just north is Camp Pendleton Marine Base (near San Onofre Nuclear power plant which looks like two tits with pointy nipples) and nearby is Miramar Air Station. Maybe you have friends in the US Military and maybe you tell them how great your trips to Sosua are. I would guess you probably tell your US Military friends that a US Army veteran who served in Vietnam was murdered in his home in Sosua. Seems no one was ever convicted for that crime. The murdered US Army veteran was Art Tarlow, who had a legal dispute with the guy from Italy who owns the Sosua Bay Hotel, Victorian House, new Casino in Sosua, Merengue Bar, Classicos and After One.

I don't know what year you started going to Sosua. I made my first trip to Sosua somewhere around 2003. I stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel with my father (US Army Veteran). I got to know one worker at the Sosua Bay Hotel and learned that the guy from Italy who owned the hotel could not get along with some of his own family (brothers) and the family owned hotels in Sosua and Cabarete had to be split up. There are stories how at some business meetings attended by the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel, gun shots were fired. When I stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel, the Italian owner would always park his large new Mercedes Benz vehicle outside the lobby entrance.

The Italian owner of sosua bay hotel (and the other properties I mentioned) was set to lose the Victorian House and the new casino at an auction, because of his legal dispute with the US Army Veteran Art Tarlow. The day before the auction was to occur, Art Tarlow was shot dead in his sosua home. No expensive items were stolen, documents regarding the legal dispute with the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel were taken. The auction appears to have not gone forward and appears the Italian guy still owns the Victorian House and the New Casino as well as the other businesses I previously mentioned. He is the prime suspect in the murder of the US Army Veteran.

Seems the Italian guy has money for a new large BMW vehicle, but he doesn't pay his workers. I don't know if you or your friends spent money in Classicos, Merengue Bar, Sosua Bay Hotel, Victorian House, After One Disco or the new casino, if you did, you financially supported a guy who probably murdered a US Army Veteran. Maybe you don't care about such things, which would be understandable, seeing the type of person you are. (crime scene photo, Art Tarlow in Sosua)

[Orgasmico]

Testing out some software tonight, here is about a minute of a fashion show I recorded with my IPhone. This wasn't recorded in any city listed so I decided to stick it in this thread: http://youtu.be/RkirOkyVZMA

[Jaosousa]

All I see here in Pattaya is farang holding hands and hugged up with their hookers. They even do the same with the ladyboys and all I can do is Shake My Damn Head. The night before last in the Philippines I took a girl and she tried to hold my hand walking down the street. I said there'll be none of that babe. Granted, if you are spending the money then you should make it the kind of experience you want. I'm just not personally keen on being romantic with the paid help.

While I do enjoy a GFE, if I really wanted one then I would just get a girlfriend. It's starting to look like girlfriends are a thing of the past in DR. Most chicas are requiring money and gifts now in exchange for their companionship. And if I wanted to do that then I would just assume pay a hooker.

I second the notion. Some people are addicted to crack, some to alcohol, some to gambling, some to church; I just happen to be addicted to women. Is there a rehab for that or should I even want to go to one?You get what you pay. If you are happy with a high mileage (possibly sick) pro, good for you. Kissing a woman is a nice part of sex. Kissing a pro who just took a load in her mouth from another guy, no thanks for me. Seems you don't mind or maybe you just want to stick it into something, for that you don't even need a woman.

I give $5US Aeropostale t-shirts to non-pro GFs. If you prefer to give some high mileage pro 500 pesos (appx $13US) or more (where you probably can't even kiss her, because you don't know where her mouth was 15 minutes before) rather than give a low mileage non-pro a $5US gift, well that is your choice.

[Mr Gogo]

What you say is quite understandable and I would agree with most of it. However you do see quite a lot of couples walking around holding hands, arm in arm, etc. Probably some of them are expatriates who live in or around Sosua and have regular girl friends. It seems to be a usual pattern that I have observed over some years that guys who go to live in the area eventually hook up with some favorita and become more-or-less sexually monogamous, at least to the extent that they would not be seen holding hands with another in the street. But some of them must be visitors / vacationers, so presumably it is still possible to hook up in some manner if that is what you want. If you are young and hang with a particular group, you might not notice these guys, many of whom are older and / or European, if they fly under your radar, but if you look there are plenty of them in the various restaurants around the town at breakfast or dinner time dining with their Dominican paramours.Frannie,

We could walk through Sosua together and see two different things. Naturally it makes sense that an expat that lives in Sosua would have a favorita.

Here's something a popular cabbie told BBL and I while taking us to Puerto Plata. I thought I was sharing a bar girl with a certain German, when the cabbie said he is a gay coke head. My jaw dropped because I thought he was a major player. The cabbie said some ex pats or Europeans that move there either turn gay or turn to coke. For what its worth.

[Manizales911]

You get what you pay. If you are happy with a high mileage (possibly sick) pro, good for you. Kissing a woman is a nice part of sex. Kissing a pro who just took a load in her mouth from another guy, no thanks for me. Seems you don't mind or maybe you just want to stick it into something, for that you don't even need a woman.

I give $5US Aeropostale t-shirts to non-pro GFs. If you prefer to give some high mileage pro 500 pesos (appx $13US) or more (where you probably can't even kiss her, because you don't know where her mouth was 15 minutes before) rather than give a low mileage non-pro a $5US gift, well that is your choice.Come on now Jaosousa, if you think that everyone on this board is going to buy into the premise that all your girls in the DR are as pure as the fresh driven snow and you've never stuck your tongue down the throat of one of your "non pros" an hour after she swallowed her dominican boyfriend's spunk then you are purely delusional.

Most of the guys here know what these girls are about, we know that most of the time we are getting sloppy seconds but at least we have the balls to admit it, you on the other hand are living some far out fantasy that those Badoo and Hi5 girls you chase all over the countryside are jumping your bones for a $5. Tee shirt and then going home to mommy to await your return in two months. I've got news for you, they are in the club the night after your plane departs drinking and partying with her new tee shirt and wiping her cum filled mouth with it.

[TomJackin]

My father was in the US Military and always told me when the Navy guys showed up in some town in Korea, the p4p prices always went up. How long does it take to travel from San Diego to Puerto Plata? I used to live in San Diego, maybe you enjoy the Hillcrest neighborhood (I had Thai friends who used to work in a good Thai restaurant there. Or maybe you live in El Cajon). You grew up in Miami and live near Mexico, I am sure your Spanish must be good.Yep, the Navy coming to town always jacked up the prices, but we had plenty of bucks to burn due to spending weeks, and even months at sea. It takes forever and a day to get to Puerto Plata from the West Coast, but I don't mind. Hillcrest has some of the best restaurants that San Diego has to offer, love the place, but then again I'm not homophobic. BTW, I live at the beach, PB to be exact. Actually my Spanish sucks and it wasn't that long ago when Coolie High dogged my ass out for not knowing the language, but I am working on it.


I believe in one of your posts you stated that you had a session with the well known Patricia. What was the cost of that session? One pop or multiple pops? Bareback? Did she allow photos? You having been in the US Military you can get free medical treatment through the Veterans Affairs Department, paid for by the US Government, so if you happen to get an illness in Sosua, you can get free medical treatment. I don't have free medical treatment, so I have to be more careful where I dip my dick.Aw Patricia, she is quite a hoot, a tad dangerous, but still quite fun. Multiple pops at my age; laughable. I paid her enough to ensure that she would not hurt or kill me, and she was well worth the money. I will repeat with her again. I have plenty of photos and videos of Patricia that I share with close pals. I could get free medical care through the VA, but I chose not to, and I do pay for my own medical care and I don't have a problem with that. There are many more vets out there that are far less fortunate than me, thus, I don't want to clog the system for them.

BTW, thanks for the fatherly advice, even though I doubt it was genuine. Having said all that, it would still be my pleasure to meet you and buy you a few, maybe more, rounds. You do have a lot of experience in this hobby, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. I'm not on this earth to judge you, but on the other hand, please don't judge me.

[Mr Gogo]

Yep, the Navy coming to town always jacked up the prices, but we had plenty of bucks to burn due to spending weeks, and even months at sea. It takes forever and a day to get to Puerto Plata from the West Coast, but I don't mind. Hillcrest has some of the best restaurants that San Diego has to offer, love the place, but then again I'm not homophobic. BTW, I live at the beach, PB to be exact. Actually my Spanish sucks and it wasn't that long ago when Coolie High dogged my ass out for not knowing the language, but I am working on it.

Aw Patricia, she is quite a hoot, a tad dangerous, but still quite fun. Multiple pops at my age; laughable. I paid her enough to ensure that she would not hurt or kill me, and she was well worth the money. I will repeat with her again. I have plenty of photos and videos of Patricia that I share with close pals. I could get free medical care through the VA, but I chose not to, and I do pay for my own medical care and I don't have a problem with that. There are many more vets out there that are far less fortunate than me, thus, I don't want to clog the system for them.

BTW, thanks for the fatherly advice, even though I doubt it was genuine. Having said all that, it would still be my pleasure to meet you and buy you a few, maybe more, rounds. You do have a lot of experience in this hobby, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. I'm not on this earth to judge you, but on the other hand, please don't judge me.Hey Tomjackin, hope you are well. Maybe I'm a little outdated, but I remember just the opposite. I'm Navy, USS Enterprise (CVN 65) and USS Mount Hood (Ae29) and I was stationed in Alameda and San Diego. I was in the Navy during the 80s, and most of the pussy I got was free or very cheap. Balboa park and Tijuana were my spots then.

One thing about the current debate is that no one has crossed the line in these debates. No cussing, no racial insults and no mommas jokes here, just friends going at it respectfully. My last debate was that sorry ass MadisonGay who couldn't articulate his point without saying he " didn't like my black ass". My point is its all healthy as long as we debate without crossing the line.

Personally I was introduced to the DR at a time when women catered to the guests. So naturally I've learned to respect the culture. I respect Jao because he has taken time to show anyone who asks, what is there. He also has learned to speak Spanish better than any monger I have met, so yeah he has the credentials to *****. Show me anyone who has given more of the DR culture to this board. He has access to girls that a lot of us don't. He is just giving his angle. Some will appreciate it, others won't. But its all healthy that we exchange different perspectives. BTW I made two WestPacs.

[DeltaFlier]

That would be me, and BTW, thanks for the compliment. I actually learned that term by two ISG members that live there and they can't wait to escape the place to have real fun. Personally, I've been there three times and have yet to find the fascination of the place. The city is stressful, busy, and driving there is not an option; JMHO of course. Everyone I met from there during my long military career always boosted,"I'm from New York City!" Like it makes a real difference in life. I was born and raised in an inner city in Miami, does in matter, fuck no. It only matters what you do in life, but not where in the hell you lived throughout your life.

I now live in San Diego, one of the most laid back cities in America. And one of the nicest places to live as well. I've talked to guys in Sosua and throughout the world and they do not want to end their vacation and return to Philly or the blessed NYC. They are disappointed to get on a plane to go home, but yet, I'm ready to return home.

After spending 27 years in the military, and romping my ass threw 40+ countries, and exploring 49 of the 50 states (I figured SD was just as good as ND) , I think, maybe only think, that I have some clue to what's going on in life; but maybe not. I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping. And I guess in your eyes there is something wrong with that? I longer give a shit about relationships, but I guess you do; no worries.

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self!Well said brother. At the very young age of 26, I've seen and done a WHOLE lot. Joined the US Navy when I was 17 and did my time. Completed 2. 5 years worth of school using TA while I was in and finished the rest when I got out. Now, flying for a mid-sized regional airline based out of Georgia. In all honesty, I tried the whole GFE thing and IMHO, I'd rather do it back home and ahve the woman laying next to me at night or having her over whenever I wanted to while paying for her hair and nails every now and then (hey, we all have to pay no matter what). When I'm out the country, I'm looking for a fix. There's a reason why I don't even bother posting in USASG anymore. I told those guys time and time again that the money they spend on some chic on BP for an hour, I get the goods for the entire night in Panama City, Bangkok, Santo Domingo, San Jose, Sosua, etc. Etc. And looking like 8 and 9s to boot.

No disrespect to the senior members but no, I see no problem with paying a Sosua chica to rub the goods right and ride the hell out of me for a couple hours, all the while tipping her $13. Thirteen lousy dollars. What has the world come to that we are now comparing what one pays for a gift vs. Another? So what if you only spent $5 on some SP T-shirt you bought from a thrift store. As for me, I usually have a shopping list and I do enjoy giving out gifts to some of the girls but that's just me IDK. I have no kids, like in an apartment by myself and drive a used car with liability insurance but make a pretty good living so my money is jsut that, mine after bills and thus I am able to do certain things for myself.

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Anyway, I would like to thank ALL the contributors to this place. Including every single SM. Like I said, no disrecpect meant just voicing my opinion on what seems to be the hot topic right now so back to the chicas please!

So, I haven't been to Sosua in almost a year now. I've been too busy exploring other corners of the world. Just got back from Panama with a buddy of mine and did a romp in Manila just a month ago by myself (boy oh boy what a place). I've only been to Sosua twice and both occasions were on the weekend but I will be heading back in jsut two weeks but my "stay" days will be on a Sunday and Monday night departing Tuesday morning. Are these bad days for the bay? I've been told every day is a good day but some days are jsut slower than others. Also, I saw several comments about the NG. Has anything changed there since the last time I've been? Did some searching and seems like CMPs is up and running but their prices are a little north of what Passions has so I really don't know if its worth it. Last question. Any new bars / hangout spots? Places that come to mind are Latinos, La Rumba, Classicos, Life Bar, Merengue Bar to name a few that I passed through. Any changed names or new spots opened up?

Thanks!

[Coolie High]

Actually my Spanish sucks and it wasn't that long ago when Coolie High dogged my ass out for not knowing the language, but I am working on it.Speaking of knowing the language I was and still is amazed at how although you barely knew any words how you were still the life of the party. Seriously I remember our last night together and you were dancing with 2 or 3 hunnies, you had security making sure we were good, hell even the bartenders were making sure you were straight and would give you the thumbs up if this girl was cool or not. Did I mention he did all this while barely knowing how to say gracias LOL.

It goes to show you that although spanish is key it is NOT the end all or be all. Sosua is not all a bunch of hardcore hoe's and hustlers trying to get you for every dime. Please re-read that last statement!

Ultimately it's a mans personality and how you treat people that will be the difference maker. TomJackin is a type of cat that can chill with anybody cus he gives everybody he meets respect. Now he ain't no sucker. He won't over pay on a broad or get hustled but he'll pay fair market value and make sure the hunnies have a good time while there with them and because of that quality he's able to party with a crazy broad like Patricia and come out alive LOL.

[Frannie]

kissing a woman is a nice part of sex. kissing a pro who just took a load in her mouth from another guy, no thanks for me.you are completely obsessed with this subject and have posted about it over and over again. is it impossible for you to have sex without thinking about other men's penises? please see your therapist.

[Charles Pooter]

you are completely obsessed with this subject and have posted about it over and over again. is it impossible for you to have sex without thinking about other men's penises? please see your therapist.you could argue a case that sex is actually safer with full-time putas. they spend their time fucking with gringos and they will usually use condoms. non-putas will be fucking just as much, but with their dominican boyfriends and usually without condoms.

[Jaosousa]

You could argue a case that sex is actually safer with full-time putas. They spend their time fucking with gringos and they will usually use condoms. Non-putas will be fucking just as much, but with their Dominican boyfriends and usually without condoms.God Pooter, you know every DR chica and you can see into every bedroom and you know how every DR chica has sex, when and with whom. Laughable. I don't recall you doing many trips out of Puerto Plata (not even to Haiti). Seems you only go with Haitians and your personal knowledge of Dominicanas outside of Puerto Plata is very limited (probably non-existent).

When I was 15 years old I was happy to have sex with Any woman. As I grow older I can wait to have sex with particular DR women (Dogs in the street hump whatever, I like to believe I am a little more evolved, than a dog in the street). I dated Dominicanas in New York City for over 10 years before I started traveling to DR and have been dating chicas in DR for about 10 years. Over 20 years of dating Dominicanas, I have learned how to stay away from knucklehead chicas.

I would never insult Haitians by stating that almost all Haitians have sex without a condom. But, again you make feeble attempts to try and insult Dominicans, at the same time you live in their country. Trust me, the Dominicans or the DR Government won't miss your hateful attitude if you decided to move to Haiti. Why an old retiree chooses to live amongst people he clearly despises, when has other options, makes no sense to me.

Jaceml in Haiti looks like a very nice place. I am sure an old pensioner who loves Haitianas, could live nice in Jacmel (or are you afraid that non-hardcore Haitianas in Haiti would give you no attention and see you for what you really are, a bitter, old man, living out his remaining days on a small pension.) Spending all your time and money in Haiti with Haitianas (away from the Dominicans who you hate so much) might be best for all involved. (I don't recall you ever writing anything nice about Dominicans). BTW, did lord byron get thrown out of great britain because he was gay?

[Tempoecorto]

You could argue a case that sex is actually safer with full-time putas. They spend their time fucking with gringos and they will usually use condoms. Non-putas will be fucking just as much, but with their Dominican boyfriends and usually without condoms.If one has to worry about who was there before me, one has to bring back the chastity belt and even then I wonder if it actually worked. LOL.

Besides, no sacred cows anymore even on the so-called no-pro sites.

http://badoo.com/01206648315/?r=2X_n1&p=2

A rather attractive (for me) female the way I like them. Well endowed and she has posted her phone number with a clear message. Sex for mula on top left. Anyone on this board and presently in the DR may try his luck (and regale us with the tale later ). Open season but looking at the number of hits. It appears that she is much sought after. She is stationed close to Santiago de Los Caballeros.

[Jaosousa]

you are completely obsessed with this subject and have posted about it over and over again. is it impossible for you to have sex without thinking about other men's penises? please see your therapist.this is the international sex guide, most guys use a penis for sex. posts regarding sex will sometimes have the word penis or dick.

i have tried to explain the concept of a low mileage semi-pro numerous times. some guys who only travel to sosua and puerto plata cannot understand the concept, i have tried to explain over and over (my posts have the words penis or dick). maybe you should be reading readers digest if you can't handle the p or d word.

the photos that major posted which he says are of a semi-pro chica in santo domingo, are better than any photos i have ever seen posted in the sosua forum.

[Frannie]

If one has to worry about who was there before me, one has to bring back the chastity belt and even then I wonder if it actually worked.Hence my earlier reference to Tess of the Durbervilles. Actually, to elaborate a bit, on her wedding night her husband tells her he has a confession to make that is on his conscience, and tells here that he is not a virgin, and that he once had sex with a prostitute. Relieved at this, she shares her own shameful secret which had been pressing on her, that she had a baby that died. When he hears this he is completely repulsed, calls her a working girl, rejects her as his wife and off he goes to Brazil. We men like our women to be innocent, and if not innocent to at least look innocent. For many men, the thought of their woman having sex with another is enough to cause impotence.


A rather attractive (for me) female the way I like them. Well endowed.If they come with a dowry, that is a plus, or do you just mean you like women with large dicks. (LOL).

[DeltaFlier]

If one has to worry about who was there before me, one has to bring back the chastity belt and even then I wonder if it actually worked. LOL.

Besides, no sacred cows anymore even on the so-called no-pro sites.

http://badoo.com/01206648315/?r=2X_n1&p=2

A rather attractive (for me) female the way I like them. Well endowed and she has posted her phone number with a clear message. Sex for mula on top left. Anyone on this board and presently in the DR may try his luck (and regale us with the tale later ). Open season but looking at the number of hits. It appears that she is much sought after. She is stationed close to Santiago de Los Caballeros.I'm on Badoo pretty often and never came cross one with their # in the profile. How'd you find her? Just browsing or is there a search field I missed.

[Tempoecorto]

For many men, the thought of their woman having sex with another is enough to cause impotence.

If they come with a dowry, that is a plus, or do you just mean you like women with large dicks. (LOL).1. We men are so vain! I would like to think it is the women who went hunting for quality gene, until the advent of private property but that is a whole other tangential discussion.

In India, where I am originally from, they always ask (for official documents) for one's father's name so I would get pissed off and say, let me go and ask my mom, because she is the only one who truly knows. Of course these idiots, would not quite get it.

2. Hey, granted that Queen's language is not my native tongue but I was under the impression that mammary of women are part of the "endowment" process as well! O me equivoco? LOL!

P. S. : I have called for the Tom Hardy book at my library.

[Tempoecorto]

I'm on Badoo pretty often and never came cross one with their # in the profile. How'd you find her? Just browsing or is there a search field I missed.No... no specific search field. It was just there. Happens every now and then I presume, as I have seen this on a few other occasions. Good luck if your boots are on the ground there.

[Frannie]

.I was under the impression that mammary of women are part of the "endowment" process as well!Ah, the dowry chest. Yes, indeed. My boob.

[Kman1]

Some of the pics you have been posting are outstanding, esp. the one on the beach in yellow with the tremendous butt. Do you see them on a regular basis? Where do you find them?


You have to hurry up and get there so you can posts some of those great pictures.

The report BO posted about girls talking about poisoning has credit with me for several reasons. The main one being that they didn't think he understood Spanish, so they felt free to tell secrets. That was a very telling post that should raise a flag to all mongerers. I always make a girl take a shower first, know why? Because I heard of girls spiking their titties. A guy is in such a rush to fuck and suck that he never knew what happened until he wakes up. Has this ever happened to me? No. Do I know anyone thats its happened to? No. Would I be a fool to think it never will? Yes.

Any responsible monger would always make sure his brothers maintain awareness. Just because the hotel doesn't enforce this policy doesn't mean we shouldn't either. We are our own brothers keeper here. If a brother is too exhausted from partying all night to atleast escort a girl out of our "safe zone", then maybe we are setting ourselves up.

As far as the Sosua girls now not being hardcore, I don't agree. Most of those weekend girls from out of town are Santo Domingo or Santiago weekend hustlers. They usually work in teams. They usually go for the quick money fucks. Before you had that newbie who was from Mantellano or Puerto Plata who wanted to meet a nice guy and spend as much of his vacation with him as possible. They would invite you to their home for a home cooked meal, they would get excited about an afternoon date to Cabarete, they would go to the beach (Playa Grande not Sousa) with their weekend boyfriend, they would cry when you departure day arrived. Shit, nowadays these girls don't even want a repeat date, its on to the next guy. Thats pretty hardcore to me.

But lets not let the mongerer off the hook. I remember a few years ago when breakfast at NG was full of couples, now its just guys boasting. I remember before seeing guys walking around holding girls hands. I remember when there were so many girls during the day that guys didn't go out at night for girls. Before guys took their girlfriends to Classicos, now Classicos is for meeting a girl for an hour fuck. Before mongeres developed such a comfort zone that they spent freely and walked around with a lot of money, hence the few pick pockets.

Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.

[SavePros321]

I have tried to explain the concept of a low mileage semi-pro numerous times. Some guys who only travel to Sosua and Puerto Plata cannot understand the concept, I have tried to explain over and over.The problem is that nobody in the Sosua forum cares. If we did, we'd be in the SD forum trying to find out about "Semi-pros" rather than focusing all of our attention on "High-mileage pros". You are preaching to the choir buddy.


The photos that Major posted which he says are of a semi-pro chica in Santo Domingo, are better than any photos I have ever seen posted in the Sosua forum.That is because you are biased. If Major had come back to the photo gallery and said "just kidding; she is a Sousa pro", then it would be the worst photo you have ever seen in the entire history of ISG and you'd then start lecturing him about how barebacking her could result in AIDS.

[Jaosousa]

This is 4 you Vets that go to Classico. There is a Mocha colored girl with nice stright hair maybe a wave and a body to die 4. She looks like a Amazon Model but seem to suck up 4 me and I alway go by Vibe. I talk to a guy from the US who was talking to her and he said she wanted 6k. He said she was not budgeing I guess with Westen U guys sending you money you don't have to.

2 pic attach. The girl in Blue was a hookup From a Nice driver slash Pimp. He took me to some bar / club were she met us in POP. Its was a waste of time she's a dead fish in the short stay and wanted 800us per month to be my girl friend, because she love me and wanted to quit hoeing. Well she seem like she quit cause she sucks. I gave her 1500, gave the driver 2000 for the round trip and hook up. Plus spent another 1200 on drinks and food. Never ever never ever agian, But she is fine with a bunch of Westen U boyfriend I am sure. The one in pink a classico girl she was good and I did her friend the next night she was also good.Thanks for the report and pics, pretty chicas.

[TomJackin]

Hey Tomjackin, hope you are well. Maybe I'm a little outdated, but I remember just the opposite. I'm Navy, USS Enterprise (CVN 65) and USS Mount Hood (Ae29) and I was stationed in Alameda and San Diego. I was in the Navy during the 80s, and most of the pussy I got was free or very cheap. Balboa park and Tijuana were my spots then.

One thing about the current debate is that no one has crossed the line in these debates. No cussing, no racial insults and no mommas jokes here, just friends going at it respectfully. My last debate was that sorry ass MadisonGay who couldn't articulate his point without saying he " didn't like my black ass". My point is its all healthy as long as we debate without crossing the line.

Personally I was introduced to the DR at a time when women catered to the guests. So naturally I've learned to respect the culture. I respect Jao because he has taken time to show anyone who asks, what is there. He also has learned to speak Spanish better than any monger I have met, so yeah he has the credentials to. Show me anyone who has given more of the DR culture to this board. He has access to girls that a lot of us don't. He is just giving his angle. Some will appreciate it, others won't. But its all healthy that we exchange different perspectives. BTW I made two WestPacs.Hey Mr. Gogo, hope all is well with you back at ya! I ran the gamut as far as I could in the navy before I called it a day. Starting as a lonely ass E-1 in 1977, and retiring 27 years later as a W-4. After 10 deployments, two tours overseas, PI & Japan (PI about did my ass in) , I figured I had enough, but not one damn regret. The prices overseas always go up when the fleet pulls into place like Hong Kong, Korea, Singapore; the cities are keen to the fleet and the money that can be made. I do miss the old downtown San Diego. Now it is full of tourists, but years ago the sailors ran the place.

I don't mind a good debate whatsoever, but I don't like to be called out either. Have not seen many posts lately from your buddy MadisonGay. He polluted every thread he went on; good riddance. I also have respect for Jao and I have read many of his excellent posts. He frowns on Sosua; I get it already.

I don't look down at the ladies in Sosua, or anywhere else in the world for that matter. They all get my respect, until they do something silly, like steal from me or even worse, hurt my old ass; which neither has happen yet. Pro, semi-pro, hardcore, or softcore, all women want something in one way or another; such as life. I partied with Patricia a few times in the club and I have no problem buying her a couple of beers. She dances for me and loves the attention she gets from me and my camera. I think she is a sweetheart, but life hasn't been good to her, thus, she can be a bit difficult to understand.

You are on my "I want to meet this dude!" list, and one day when the moon and the stars are in the right position, I'm sure it will happen!

[Jaosousa]

I do miss the old downtown San Diego. Now it is full of tourists, but years ago the sailors ran the place.Tattoo parlors near the downtown YMCA in San Diego, before all the new buildings starting going up. That YMCA had a gym, with a good size pool in the basement. Sailing classes offered through UCSD. Good weather in San Diego.

[Tempoecorto]

No. no specific search field. It was just there. Happens every now and then I presume, as I have seen this on a few other occasions. Good luck if your boots are on the ground there.Http://us1.badoo.com/01205411711/?r=2plb2&p=14

http://us1.badoo.com/01204736372/?r=2plb3&p=30

http://us1.badoo.com/01120162053/?r=2plb4&p=32

No phone numbers here but the first one has a clear message. The other two I chatted with and it very quickly came down to how much. And I am a cheapskate! .

Punting over to whoever is interested out there.

[Coupe66]

Http://us1.badoo.com/01205411711/?r=2plb2&p=14

http://us1.badoo.com/01204736372/?r=2plb3&p=30

http://us1.badoo.com/01120162053/?r=2plb4&p=32

No phone numbers here but the first one has a clear message. The other two I chatted with and it very quickly came down to how much. And I am a cheapskate! .

Punting over to whoever is interested out there.Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here. The first girl you posted is wearing a bikini, big deal! The second is doing some sexy poses, and the third is just wearing a nice dress, saying she 'wants to go out with a man'. Again, big deal! Yes, obviously there is a reason why if the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves etc, etc, but what is the point of putting up a link to 3 women? Where will it end, why not put a link up to 10, 000 women on Badoo in the DR, I am sure there at least that many on it! I don't think they would appreciate what you did, and doing things like this may one day damage our chances of getting their numbers so easily! So a little reflection before posting in future would be appreciated. And if it is so easy to get 'leads' like this as you call them, why not let other guys find their own instead of 'punting' them out there ? And yes, every now and again a woman on Badoo will put her number on her profile, but she is either a total hardcore pro, or she is totally desperate for funds.

[Mr Enternational]

Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here. The first girl you posted is wearing a bikini, big deal! The second is doing some sexy poses, and the third is just wearing a nice dress, saying she 'wants to go out with a man'. Again, big deal! Yes, obviously there is a reason why if the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves etc, etc, but what is the point of putting up a link to 3 women? Where will it end, why not put a link up to 10, 000 women on Badoo in the DR, I am sure there at least that many on it! I don't think they would appreciate what you did, and doing things like this may one day damage our chances of getting their numbers so easily!I don't see the point in posting the links either, but I don't think anything will damage your chances of getting someone's phone number on a site that has women in the third-world as their focus. You said it yourself,"the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves." None of this will change because Temp posted the link to a profile that anyone could have looked on badoo themselves and seen. Then Philippines section has a thread called Chat Rooms & Pen Pals and people post profiles of dateinasia girls everyday. The only difference that I have seen is that the girls there come to your room and take off their clothes immediately without you having to say a word. Or are you on the websites hoping to find an angel?

[Tempoecorto]

Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here.I did not consider the women's privacy part. I should have.

The only reason three girls because two I spoke to and they are direct to the point compared to many more wishy-washys that need to be whittled down with time and other resources. The third one was unusually candid in her message (not pics) about her mission which certainly to my experience is not typical....

Yes, all here who are interested can access this info without much ado and certainly without my intervention. However, if you backtrack the flow, you will find it all started with a point I was trying to make about the non-pro "pro" sites, but touche', you have made your point!

[Kman1]

I don't see the point in posting the links either, but I don't think anything will damage your chances of getting someone's phone number on a site that has women in the third-world as their focus. You said it yourself,"the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves." None of this will change because Temp posted the link to a profile that anyone could have looked on badoo themselves and seen. Then Philippines section has a thread called Chat Rooms & Pen Pals and people post profiles of dateinasia girls everyday. The only difference that I have seen is that the girls there come to your room and take off their clothes immediately without you having to say a word. Or are you on the websites hoping to find an angel?Honestly, Tempoecorto's post was not just good but so 'relevant' to the forum audience. This is a great lead for the badoo novices. The girls look terrific and I am tempted to join badoo now, it just opened up a new venue for mongering. Excellent post Tempeocorto, feel free to say what you like, and personally I think there is no need to be superfluous with your language, don't think anyone here cares, just blurt out the facts and your experiences as they come.

[DeltaFlier]

Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here. The first girl you posted is wearing a bikini, big deal! The second is doing some sexy poses, and the third is just wearing a nice dress, saying she 'wants to go out with a man'. Again, big deal! Yes, obviously there is a reason why if the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves etc, etc, but what is the point of putting up a link to 3 women? Where will it end, why not put a link up to 10, 000 women on Badoo in the DR, I am sure there at least that many on it! I don't think they would appreciate what you did, and doing things like this may one day damage our chances of getting their numbers so easily! So a little reflection before posting in future would be appreciated. And if it is so easy to get 'leads' like this as you call them, why not let other guys find their own instead of 'punting' them out there ? And yes, every now and again a woman on Badoo will put her number on her profile, but she is either a total hardcore pro, or she is totally desperate for funds.Yes, he was simply trying to make a point that they are out there. I had asked about the first one because I wasn't sure if there was a search function I could use or something and he said he stumbled across her and there are more but you jsut have to find them, then he made the next post as an example.

[DeltaFlier]

My long rant aside, so I'll cut it out the original message. Any help as to below? Thanks guys!


Anyway, I would like to thank ALL the contributors to this place. Including every single SM. Like I said, no disrecpect meant just voicing my opinion on what seems to be the hot topic right now so back to the chicas please!

So, I haven't been to Sosua in almost a year now. I've been too busy exploring other corners of the world. Just got back from Panama with a buddy of mine and did a romp in Manila just a month ago by myself (boy oh boy what a place). I've only been to Sosua twice and both occasions were on the weekend but I will be heading back in jsut two weeks but my "stay" days will be on a Sunday and Monday night departing Tuesday morning. Are these bad days for the bay? I've been told every day is a good day but some days are jsut slower than others. Also, I saw several comments about the NG. Has anything changed there since the last time I've been? Did some searching and seems like CMPs is up and running but their prices are a little north of what Passions has so I really don't know if its worth it. Last question. Any new bars / hangout spots? Places that come to mind are Latinos, La Rumba, Classicos, Life Bar, Merengue Bar to name a few that I passed through. Any changed names or new spots opened up?

Thanks!

[Irishman7]

"Great spade chicks" and "diggin your potatoes"! Fran, What the FUCK are you talking about. LMFAO! Yo Fran be cool. I get the un called for sarcasm. Now can we get back to why where here and that's pussy.

And from your diggin your pototaes talk it would seem you need a good blow job err I mean fellatio from a woman right about now to clear your mind. We were already on high alert with a man eatin Sosua ass but now you just took us into the twilight zone with that post.You let Frannie be! I know what he be talkin 'about!

[DeepMmpactt]

You let Frannie be! I know what he be talkin 'about!This is truly a first,"ahem" a Fake Irishman talking like a"brutha" You let Frannie be cause he kno wut he be talkin about, like my man Coolie said wut the fuck is wrong with frannie, lets not start this horrible singing by frannie, we don't give a shit about lyric, and trambling some wine, so run a check on yo self Irishman you act like a 7 year old. I guess you wanted to digg in the trash and recycyle this bullshit singing of frannies, I guess us REAL BROTHERS, can have this european frannie, the overlord of being black, his credentials? He sleep with dark haitian, now that somehow gives him complete authority, to tell us Real African Americans, how to act, think, say and do. Honestly I aint a fan of Frannie, I never want to meet him at all, I'm sure he feels the same, pp.

At to meet him I could care less what spade he call a spade, and irish7, you sound like a idiot also. Just mho. Pi pi

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[Tempoecorto]

Yes, he was simply trying to make a point that they are out there. I had asked about the first one because I wasn't sure if there was a search function I could use or something and he said he stumbled across her and there are more but you jsut have to find them, then he made the next post as an example.On that note, the first woman whose link I had posted has already removed her phone number as I noticed later. Hopefully some of you guys got lucky at least in writing it down. Perhaps she got inundated by calls.

Personally, this whole discussion about non, semi and full pro and that they are congregated in certain areas is pure mental masturbation. No free lunch nowhere. My personal wet dream is pick someone. While driving hopefully in a remote area or on a deserted beach (a la Jao or Enternational and others), without having to maintain a calendar. All this calling / chatting and blah is hard...almost work. LOL.

[Tempoecorto]

Honestly, Tempoecorto's post was not just good but so 'relevant' to the forum audience. This is a great lead for the badoo novices. The girls look terrific and I am tempted to join badoo now, it just opened up a new venue for mongering. Excellent post Tempeocorto, feel free to say what you like, and personally I think there is no need to be superfluous with your language, don't think anyone here cares, just blurt out the facts and your experiences as they come.Thanks but I should have been a little more judicious about posting a link from a social network (no matter how lurid that might or not be) to a site like this with potential negative connotations for the person / s concerned.

[Frannie]

Personally, this whole discussion about non, semi and full pro and that they are congregated in certain areas is pure mental masturbation. No free lunch nowhere. My personal wet dream is pick someone. While driving hopefully in a remote area or on a deserted beach (a la Jao or Enternational and others), without having to maintain a calendar. All this calling / chatting and blah is hard.almost work. LOL.Have you noticed that in the movies the action heroes like James Bond never have to pay for sex? Of course Ian Fleming lived in Jamaica, so maybe that explains it. Or it is all fantasy. I am sure there are lots of beautiful young women in the Dominican campos like Cinderellas dreaming as they fetch water from the well of a mysterious gringo in a white SUV and sunglasses who bends them over and fucks them and never offers a dime. Kind of like Bridges of Madison County, only with an international angle.

[MetcalfKieth]

Have done lots of research on this site am going to sosua in about five or six weeks when my money comes in. I have decided that I will be staying at the new garden and having long time girls

From passions a differant one each night unless I find one special, any of you members have any recomendations of girls to take home would be great? I would like girls like the girl that interrupts.

Cubadave on youtube she is curvy not too slim no fat, does anybody know her name? She is first on my hit list. Also can anybody tell me is the road to passions closed on the evenings and how.

Far is passions from new garden as I have to consider my disability. Many thanks everyone.

[Jaosousa]

I am sure there are lots of beautiful young women in the Dominican campos like Cinderellas dreaming as they fetch water from the well of a mysterious gringo in a white SUV and sunglasses who bends them over and fucks them and never offers a dime.I am sure low mileage or no mileage chicas from the campos visit Sosua, so not all women in Sosua are high mileage pros (some high mileage pros can be fun).

Charles Pooter in person is a very charming, very intelligent guy with an excellent sense of humor. I have been told, you too Frannie can be nice when people meet you in person.

[Tempoecorto]

Have you noticed that in the movies the action heroes like James Bond never have to pay for sex? Of course Ian Fleming lived in Jamaica, so maybe that explains it. Or it is all fantasy. I am sure there are lots of beautiful young women in the Dominican campos like Cinderellas dreaming as they fetch water from the well of a mysterious gringo in a white SUV and sunglasses who bends them over and fucks them and never offers a dime. Kind of like Bridges of Madison County, only with an international angle.Well, you live in the DR. It is time for some fact finding mission (a la mission impossible) to map out the Cinderellas out in the vincaland waiting for the gringo (well non-gringos too, with the undersigned.) Oh, by the way, I was actually looking at Jamaica also....curious what is out there.

Bridges of Madison County, one of the most romantic movies I have seen in a long time and that too at an older age. Do not want to equate it with James Fleming Bond stuff! .

[Coolie High]

This is truly a first,"ahem" a Fake Irishman talking like a"brutha" You let Frannie be cause he kno wut he be talkin about, like my man Coolie said wut the fuck is wrong with frannie, lets not start this horrible singing by frannie, we don't give a shit about lyric, and trambling some wine, so run a check on yo self Irishman you act like a 7 year old. I guess you wanted to digg in the trash and recycyle this bullshit singing of frannies, I guess us REAL BROTHERS, can have this european frannie, the overlord of being black, his credentials? He sleep with dark haitian, now that somehow gives him complete authority, to tell us Real African Americans, how to act, think, say and do. Honestly I aint a fan of Frannie, I never want to meet him at all, I'm sure he feels the same, pp.

At to meet him I could care less what spade he call a spade, and irish7, you sound like a idiot also. Just mho. Pi pi.

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In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks! Yo Deep I don't even know why you even responded to dude. The cat Irish posted something that was resolved last year LOL. Every now and then on the board we get RANDOM post first timers that'll never post again and even if they do we pay them no nevermind cus they contribute absolutely NOTHING to the board.

BTW as far as Frannie go you should reconsider in trying to meet him. Although he takes the board to the "twilight zone" with his his post every now and then, Fran has some SERIOUS knowledge about Sosua. TomJackin already has met Fran and says hes cool and provides great intel of the land, so when yaw go down there in a few weeks yaw should hookup with him, have a presidente with a young tenderoni on your lap and as they say, shoot the shit!

[DeepMmpactt]

Yo Deep I don't even know why you even responded to dude. The cat Irish posted something that was resolved last year LOL. Every now and then on the board we get RANDOM post first timers that'll never post again and even if they do we pay them no nevermind cus they contribute absolutely NOTHING to the board.

BTW as far as Frannie go you should reconsider in trying to meet him. Although he takes the board to the "twilight zone" with his his post every now and then, Fran has some SERIOUS knowledge about Sosua. TomJackin already has met Fran and says hes cool and provides great intel of the land, so when yaw go down there in a few weeks yaw should hookup with him, have a presidente with a young tenderoni on your lap and as they say, shoot the shit!Ok, Coolie "7ft and clmbing" High. Yeah I look forward to shooting the shit, with my man aTomjackin, My plans kind of got push back, so I can only, hangout with Tomjackin one day, he leaves the day after, we arrive, American Airlines, playing with the prices, also I had to, wait on my other homie (Puta Romeo) , but that wednessday, Tomjackin and I, will take no prisioners. LOL! I appreciate the heads up, with this Irish cat! Peace!

[DeepMmpactt]

Ok, Coolie "7ft and clmbing" High. Yeah I look forward to shooting the shit, with my man aTomjackin, My plans kind of got push back, so I can only, hangout with Tomjackin one day, he leaves the day after, we arrive, American Airlines, playing with the prices, also I had to, wait on my other homie (Puta Romeo) , but that wednessday, Tomjackin and I, will take no prisioners. LOL! I appreciate the heads up, with this Irish cat! Peace!Yes, you're right, I should have completely ignored this Irish7 clown, sometimes I don't agree, with the way Frannie says things, but I shouldve just kept silent. So once again Frannie my humble appologies!

[Tempoecorto]

sometimes I don't agree, with the way Frannie says things, but I shouldve just kept silent. So once again Frannie my humble appologies!Nice! I like this attitude. The mental faculty to re-consider new info and change accordingly. One problem of this board of course is that we make a judgment call without meeting someone. Just by reading what someone else writes and to me, that works to our detriment. Put two people together face to face and they can certainly discover their common-ness despite (if you will) the color / language and other barriers. Throw in a few beers and women to boot. You are bosom buddies!

[Tempoecorto]

Charles Pooter in person is a very charming, very intelligent guy with an excellent sense of humor. I have been told, you too Frannie can be nice when people meet you in person.


Just the way you describe Charles Pooter - Oliver Cromwell idiosyncrasy notwithstanding, LOL, Frannie too IS nice and decent (and generous with his time. The way you are here) with the typical understated humor that only the English are capable of.

On the other hand, thinking of you as a person of Irish heritage, I thought it was ironic that the best literary work in English, is of course considered to be done (Ulysses) by James Joyce -an Irishman. The second person I think of in that list of contributors is George Bernard Shaw - another Irishman whose with and intellectual brilliance is mind boggling.

[Frannie]

Yes, you're right, I should have completely ignored this Irish7 clown, sometimes I don't agree, with the way Frannie says things, but I shouldve just kept silent. So once again Frannie my humble appologies!No need to apologize for anything.

[BoricuaOnline]

The Italian owner of sosua bay hotel (and the other properties I mentioned) was set to lose the Victorian House and the new casino at an auction, because of his legal dispute with the US Army Veteran Art Tarlow. The day before the auction was to occur, Art Tarlow was shot dead in his sosua home. No expensive items were stolen, documents regarding the legal dispute with the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel were taken. The auction appears to have not gone forward and appears the Italian guy still owns the Victorian House and the New Casino as well as the other businesses I previously mentioned. He is the prime suspect in the murder of the US Army Veteran.)I believe he still owns all business because these places were promoted to me by hotel management personnel.


Seems the Italian guy has money for a new large BMW vehicle, but he doesn't pay his workers. I don't know if you or your friends spent money in Classicos, Merengue Bar, Sosua Bay Hotel, Victorian House, After One Disco or the new casino, if you did, you financially supported a guy who probably murdered a US Army Veteran. Maybe you don't care about such things, which would be understandable, seeing the type of person you are. (crime scene photo, Art Tarlow in Sosua)There are payroll payment problems in Sosua Bay and Victoria House. I stayed for one day in Sosua Bay a month ago. I went to the buffet and asked the waiter for information about the other restaurants of the hotel. He mentioned about El Sabatino which can be translated as "the Saturday place". El Sabatino was scheduled to be open on Saturday but do not open because employees were in a one day strike because they have not received a dime in weeks.

[HiClassDrifter]

I believe he still owns all business because these places were promoted to me by hotel management personnel.

There are payroll payment problems in Sosua Bay and Victoria House. I stayed for one day in Sosua Bay a month ago. I went to the buffet and asked the waiter for information about the other restaurants of the hotel. He mentioned about El Sabatino which can be translated as "the Saturday place". El Sabatino was scheduled to be open on Saturday but do not open because employees were in a one day strike because they have not received a dime in weeks.Thanks BoricuaOnline. For quickly sharing an update on the recent murder of this army veteran arising from legal and financial problems at the Sosua Bay and Victoria hotels. This incident also underscores the pervasive, ever expanding " culture of corruption and lawlessness " and deterioting security situation here in the Dominican Republic. Ranked the second most corrupt government in all of Latin America. And currently ranked one of the most corrupt governments in the world. I'm currently organizing a class action lawsuit anonomously against Scotiabank and Progresso Bank here on the North Coast evolving theft by the bank tellers from my Visa credit card. Confirmed by my USAF Federal Credit Union. And also from the experience of one of my friends, a retired police officer also living here on the North Coast. Frankly, I believe this country should be formally declared " Failed State!".

Be careful gentlemen! Over & Out!