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Escort King
06-12-07, 00:08
There is a beach restaurant called Siempre Sol. It belongs to a multilingual Dutchman named Hermann. You can go there, and have a snack while picking Hermann's brains. He seems to know every chica on the beach, has many of their phone numbers, and will happily share his knowledge. One word of caution however. Hermann exploits his waitress badly. They earn 3,000 pesos monthly (supposedly plus tips). Please put your tip directly into her hand. Otherwise she will never see it. What a piece of work!
Hermann is a good guy.... between him and Lou who used to have the Shark Bar on the beach you can get a lot of help.
Crazy Jim Wood
06-12-07, 00:26
Just say lighter complexion or European.
I did say "fairer". It's best to be honest about one's desires. I am not opposed to "darker" (especially if accompanied by large[r] breasts and an ass that is not too big) but on average I would probably prefer lighter.
Besides, from the pictures I have seen on the forum, there's plenty in the DR that suits me. I have not been as impressed with the Costa Rica photos I have seen on the forum. Costa Rica also seems a little more squalid.
It also seems like the DR has a more established expat monger community and there is much more information. I could probably find many like-minded individuals to talk with when I am not boning. Seems like Costa Rica would have more granola-eating, tree-hugging types who would look askance at my proclivities.
Perhaps I will try Costa Rica at some point in the future. I think, though, at that point I would just go to Argentina: Jackson lives there so there must be something going on.
Right now, though, those places seem a lot further away than the DR.
CJW
i did say "fairer". it's best to be honest about one's desires. i am not opposed to "darker" (especially if accompanied by large[r] breasts and an ass that is not too big) but on average i would probably prefer lighter.
besides, from the pictures i have seen on the forum, there's plenty in the dr that suits me. i have not been as impressed with the costa rica photos i have seen on the forum. costa rica also seems a little more squalid.
it also seems like the dr has a more established expat monger community and there is much more information. i could probably find many like-minded individuals to talk with when i am not boning. seems like costa rica would have more granola-eating, tree-hugging types who would look askance at my proclivities.
perhaps i will try costa rica at some point in the future. i think, though, at that point i would just go to argentina: jackson lives there so there must be something going on.
right now, though, those places seem a lot further away than the dr.
cjw
you can find some very lovely girls with light brown skin, or bronze skin, if you hunt around and are patient.
the #1 key to getting great girls in the dr is speaking spanish. this is not as hard as it seems. spanish is not very difficult.
i started learning spanish from cds in my car a bit over three years ago and am now semifluent. there are big holes in my vocabulary, for sure, but i can hold everyday conversations, talk on the phone, write e-mails or text messages as well as most chicas (ok, that is not saying much.)
for example, you will find that chicas write "vesos" for "besos" (=kisses) which is a real beginner's mistake, even if that is how it is pronounced.
the hardest thing, perhaps, is that you cannot always find the chica you want when you want, so it behooves you to get to know chicas, collect phone numbers, make appointments for tomorrow etc.,and to go to places where there are girls who are not *****s and chat with them too. there are plenty of very attractive women who will not go to the discos or bars because they don't want their peers to tag them as putas, but who will be very willing to accept financial aid from 'boyfriends' who they have sex with.
language is the key to it all.
Crazy Jim Wood
06-12-07, 01:39
I started learning Spanish from CDs in my car a bit over three years ago and am now semifluent... The hardest thing, perhaps, is that you cannot always find the chica you want WHEN you want, so it behooves you to get to know chicas, collect phone numbers, make appointments for tomorrow etc.,and to go to places where there are girls who are not whoares...
Thanks, this is very good advice. I guess knowing enough Spanish to make a date will at least get your foot in the door? I was looking at some CD's the other day at the bookstore and saw that Michael Thomas (language instructor to the stars--Kevin Costner learned from him) has a Spanish CD set out. Michael's French CD's were very good, maybe I should try the Spanish ones. If Kevin can do it, so can I.
What are the places where the girls are not whoares? Is it one of those "anywhere" deals where you talk to someone in the grocery store, park, whatever, or is there a good place to go?
Do you have an opinion on the best city to stay in for a beginner? I have been looking at Sosua.
It would be nice to meet some amateurs but I want to make sure there are pro's around in case I strike out.
Jimbo
Pimsleur. Pricey but well worth it, a basic set of Pimsleur Portuguese CD's got me around Sao Paulo just fine two years ago. Nothing beats an extended stay in Latin America, but I found the Pimsleur CDs to be the best of the language-learning products for picking up the basics of a language quickly.
W/respect to skin color, maybe its just me but after my first day in the DR I barely notice dark or light skin anymore. When the conversations are all in Spanish and she's behaving like any other fun-loving Latina, and especially once you start interacting with her, her skin color becomes of no more concern than the color of her shirt.
KD
Language is the key to it all.
Language is the key to all! Very true Frannie. I agree. :)
You learned from cd's, well there's nothing wrong with that if it worked for you. I had an advantage as my ex-wife was born in Puerto Rico (Spanish was her 1st language) but whatever works.
Crazy Jim - if you are new to the DR, start in Sosua. Trust me I've been to the island 14X. If you work your angles, and you have a working knowledge of Spanish - you'll be able to go to the Playero Supermercado to buy a few cold beers and some diet coke and you'll leave with the check out girl. ;)
In Sosua anything is possible..........
There is a beach restaurant called Siempre Sol. It belongs to a multilingual Dutchman named Hermann. You can go there, and have a snack while picking Hermann's brains. He seems to know every chica on the beach, has many of their phone numbers, and will happily share his knowledge. One word of caution however. Hermann exploits his waitress badly. They earn 3,000 pesos monthly (supposedly plus tips). Please put your tip directly into her hand. Otherwise she will never see it. What a piece of work!
I tipped a waitress while sitting at a table at Seimpre Sol. Herman was at the table next to me. To my amazement, the waitress immediately handed him the tip! Didn't know what to make of that...figured it was none of my business...and I don't speak Spanish so couldn't easily find out.
What are the places where the girls are not *****s? Is it one of those "anywhere" deals where you talk to someone in the grocery store, park, whatever, or is there a good place to go?
Yes, any of those places. Stores where they sell women's clothes seem to attract women. Just smile at any women you see anywhere and see if they make eye contact.
GrouchoMarx
06-12-07, 04:55
I can't stress it enough. Hermann is a great person to know if you want to get girls off of the beach. At the same only a real creep would steal the tips from a waitress. I have seen him do it many times. Now, I hand the tip directly to the girl and state out loud that it is a tip for her. This avoids "confusion", and keeps him in check.
Herman and I have become friends. At the end of the day they all get a
part of the tips. I don't go to clubs, so all my chicas are found at the beach. Newbies should watch how much they tip. IMHO 50 pesosis a very good tip. Newbies should also remember 300 peso is 10 dollars. 150 peso is 5 dollars.
I think it is good to not load your pockets with large notes (i.e.) 500,1000 etc.
All the best!
Cap!
i will be making my second trip to sosua/pop/cab the last week in june. i see from the weather.com site that rain is 60% likely everyday. i've been checking this for a while and this is what it has been saying for every day for weeks.
the last trip i came in early december; on average the rainiest time of year. however, it only rained one or two days and most of the time the sky was clear and sunny. what is the real scope on this 60% rep001tered showers 365 days a year?
mikediver
Crazy Jim Wood
06-17-07, 23:37
Stores where they sell women's clothes seem to attract women. Just smile at any women you see anywhere and see if they make eye contact.
Crazy Jim - if you are new to the DR, start in Sosua... you'll be able to go to the Playero Supermercado to buy a few cold beers and some diet coke and you'll leave with the check out girl.
Ok, sounds good... I'll try anything once.
CJW
Cunning Linguist
06-18-07, 13:19
Many people on this board have mentioned that it is possible to pick up non-pros or semi-pros on the beach, in grocery stores, etc.
However, I am at a loss when it comes to asking the Dominican or Haitian lady if she would like to come to my hotel room for mutual enjoyment.
Obviously, if she is a pro, there are several lines one could use (warning: My Spanish is based on Spanish as spoken in the Northeast Spain. Castilian Spanish is much more brutish than Spanish in Latin America but they think it is funny):
If you are a Neanderthal-like brute, you could say:
Oye chica, te quiero echar un polvo de mil cojones. ¡Vámanos a mi hotel!
Hey gal, I want to fuck your brains out. Let's go to my hotel (Literally, "hear girl, I want to throw you a dust of a thousand balls")
or
Oye, ¡vámanos a mi habitación y nos follaremos como Dios manda!
Hey, let's go to my room and we'll have a good fuck (literally, hear, let's got to my room and we will fuck like God commands)
If you are less brutish, you could say...
Oye, chica, ¡vámanos a mi habitación! Nos divertiremos muchísimo.
Hey girl, let's go to my room. We will have a good time
However, how do you pop the question to a semi-pro or non-pro without appearing to be a complete heel or perverted jerk?
Is there something akin to "do you want to see my record collection at my hotel?"
Not knowing Dominican culture, what do you say?
Perhaps
Oye, te invito a un vinito en mi habitación. (Hey, I would like to invite to a glass of wine in my room)
Oye, ¿quieres escuchar algunos CDs que tengo en mi habitación? (Hey, would you like to listen to some CDs in my room?)
Essentially, what segues would one use with a non-pro that will result in a happy ending? Any suggestions from Spanish-speaking veterans would be most appreciated
Incidentally, many thanks to Crazy Jim for the Haitian vocabulary
Marc Anthony
06-18-07, 13:24
i will be making my second trip to sosua/pop/cab the last week in june. i see from the weather.com site that rain is 60% likely everyday. i've been checking this for a while and this is what it has been saying for every day for weeks.
the last trip i came in early december; on average the rainiest time of year. however, it only rained one or two days and most of the time the sky was clear and sunny. what is the real scope on this 60% rep001tered showers 365 days a year?
mikediver
like a lot of places in the tropics, rain is usually brief. when the sun comes back everything dries quickly. the north and south coasts have different rainy seasons - but as with your experience it's usually not something that is a big issue for vacations.
Member #2128
06-19-07, 07:31
Many people on this board have mentioned that it is possible to pick up non-pros or semi-pros on the beach, in grocery stores, etc.
However, I am at a loss when it comes to asking the Dominican or Haitian lady if she would like to come to my hotel room for mutual enjoyment.
Obviously, if she is a pro, there are several lines one could use (warning: My Spanish is based on Spanish as spoken in the Northeast Spain. Castilian Spanish is much more brutish than Spanish in Latin America but they think it is funny):
If you are a Neanderthal-like brute, you could say:
Oye chica, te quiero echar un polvo de mil cojones. ¡Vámanos a mi hotel!
Hey gal, I want to fuck your brains out. Let's go to my hotel (Literally, "hear girl, I want to throw you a dust of a thousand balls")
or
Oye, ¡vámanos a mi habitación y nos follaremos como Dios manda!
Hey, let's go to my room and we'll have a good fuck (literally, hear, let's got to my room and we will fuck like God commands)
If you are less brutish, you could say...
Oye, chica, ¡vámanos a mi habitación! Nos divertiremos muchísimo.
Hey girl, let's go to my room. We will have a good time
However, how do you pop the question to a semi-pro or non-pro without appearing to be a complete heel or perverted jerk?
Is there something akin to "do you want to see my record collection at my hotel?"
Not knowing Dominican culture, what do you say?
Perhaps
Oye, te invito a un vinito en mi habitación. (Hey, I would like to invite to a glass of wine in my room)
Oye, ¿quieres escuchar algunos CDs que tengo en mi habitación? (Hey, would you like to listen to some CDs in my room?)
Essentially, what segues would one use with a non-pro that will result in a happy ending? Any suggestions from Spanish-speaking veterans would be most appreciated
Incidentally, many thanks to Crazy Jim for the Haitian vocabulary
Are you being serious here? If you are, you are definitely working overtime. While my Spanish is not as eloquent as yours, I never found the need for these kind of "clever" pick up lines. The "culture", as you put, it just not that demanding! On the other hand, I would imagine if you actually took this approach and used these "lines" as stated here, the chicas would think you were being funny.
How about this simple approach: Make eye contact. Smile. Say hello. Ask their name. Let them know yours. Make some small talk about the weather and how much you like the Domincan Republic. Invite them for a drink--a juice, a beer, whatever. Sit in a cafe or restaurant for a while and continue to smile and ask her questions. After the drink and after you've determined you'd like to spend more time with the young lady in question, ask them if they would like to come to your room ("Tu quieres venir a mi habitacion?") If there is hesitation, you might say, "Tengo un regalo para ti." If they ask about the gift, say "un mil". Let's not forget the financial component here.
It's not much more complicated than that. While the young "non-pro" will often be available if you're "age appropriate", they may take a bit more time.
For instance, the drink may turn into a "dinner date" later that day. On the other hand, if the girl, younger or older, is ready to come to your room just moments after meeting her, she's more "pro" than "non-pro". And Sosua is crawling with "pros".
IMHO, the game is more about meeting and efficiently courting (i.e. one beer to evaluate her!) the non-tigres, the sweeter pros who will give you the hot, fully invested GFE....rather than knocking yourself out by coming on to the cute girls behind the counter at the pharmacy, who more than likely will not be interested in having sex for money. On the other hand, if you, unlike me, are 30 years old and buff, go ahead and knock yourself out with the tienda girls.
More than worrying about some kind of clever "pick up" lines, you'd be best advised to learn the signs of how to avoid being taken for a ride by a 25 year old hottie, who is out to scam you. There are no shortage of those in Sosua, those who are called "tigres" or "mafiosa". And they can fool you into wasting your money and time. No doubt you will learn the hard way....at least once!
Again, good luck. Based on the amount of research you are doing, I would bet you'll have a wonderful time....especially with the Haitianas.
#2128
Many people on this board have mentioned that it is possible to pick up non-pros or semi-pros on the beach, in grocery stores, etc.
However, I am at a loss when it comes to asking the Dominican or Haitian lady if she would like to come to my hotel room for mutual enjoyment.
Obviously, if she is a pro, there are several lines one could use (warning: My Spanish is based on Spanish as spoken in the Northeast Spain. Castilian Spanish is much more brutish than Spanish in Latin America but they think it is funny):
If you are a Neanderthal-like brute, you could say:
Oye chica, te quiero echar un polvo de mil cojones. ¡Vámanos a mi hotel!
Hey gal, I want to fuck your brains out. Let's go to my hotel (Literally, "hear girl, I want to throw you a dust of a thousand balls")
or
Oye, ¡vámanos a mi habitación y nos follaremos como Dios manda!
Hey, let's go to my room and we'll have a good fuck (literally, hear, let's got to my room and we will fuck like God commands)
If you are less brutish, you could say...
Oye, chica, ¡vámanos a mi habitación! Nos divertiremos muchísimo.
Hey girl, let's go to my room. We will have a good time
However, how do you pop the question to a semi-pro or non-pro without appearing to be a complete heel or perverted jerk?
Is there something akin to "do you want to see my record collection at my hotel?"
Not knowing Dominican culture, what do you say?
Perhaps
Oye, te invito a un vinito en mi habitación. (Hey, I would like to invite to a glass of wine in my room)
Oye, ¿quieres escuchar algunos CDs que tengo en mi habitación? (Hey, would you like to listen to some CDs in my room?)
Essentially, what segues would one use with a non-pro that will result in a happy ending? Any suggestions from Spanish-speaking veterans would be most appreciated
Incidentally, many thanks to Crazy Jim for the Haitian vocabulary
Smiing and eye contact are the most important factors. Maybe you will have seen each other a few times. Telling her that she is pretty, if she seems receptive, cannot do any harm. Ask her if she is married, and if not why not. Maybe she will tell you that all Dominican guys are assholes. Then you can say that if you were her boyfriend, you would treat her like a princess.
This, "hola bebe, quieres singar, tu habitacion o el mio" stuff will not do at all.
I think you're all missing the point. Sure, be pleasant, make eye contact and blah blah blah. All good advice.
However, the reason that non-pros make themselves available to tourists in the DR is more the product of the morays of Dominican society and the culture down there more than anything that you do.
Don't forget that the Dominican Republic has a much more "trampled through" feel than any other country you will ever travel to in Latin America. The explosion of tourism in Costa Rica, Panama and now Colombia is still a rather recent development where in the DR it has existed for decades.
Sex tourism has become an almost accepted part of the society in the DR and many young women are brought up with the knowledge that if there approached by a neatly dressed, reasonably attractive foreigner - well it might be worth hearing what he has to say! Spending an afternoon with him, afterall may be a viable way to supplement your income or come upon a gift of clothes, jewelry a watch etc.;)
Because of the history of that nation, Dominican women tend to be much more receptive to tourists then what my experience has been in other countries.
In Sosua, por ejemplo, I've chatted with the check-out girl in the Playero Supermercado while I'm buying my groceries, and then afterwards (when I notice that there is nobody behind me in line) I'll ask her what kind of music she likes, where she goes out on Saturday Nights, if she has any friends "as beautiful as she is" (wink) etc etc.
She'll turn to me and smile and answer my questions playfully and in a friendly way.
I can recall in Venezuela and Nicaragua for example - talking to girls in the supermarket checkout lines and having them look at me with an expression that clearly suggested "what the heck is this 40 yo American guy talking to me for??"
Different atmosphere, different (very pro-tourist) attitude in the DR - tips the odds in your favor. This, more than anything else is to your advantage with regular chicas. :)
cheers.............
I think you're all missing the point. Sure, be pleasant, make eye contact and blah blah blah. All good advice.
However, the reason that non-pros make themselves available to tourists in the DR is more the product of the morays of Dominican society and the culture down there more than anything that you do.
Don't forget that the Dominican Republic has a much more "trampled through" feel than any other country you will ever travel to in Latin America. The explosion of tourism in Costa Rica, Panama and now Colombia is still a rather recent development where in the DR it has existed for decades.
Sex tourism has become an almost accepted part of the society in the DR and many young women are brought up with the knowledge that if there approached by a neatly dressed, reasonably attractive foreigner. Well it might be worth hearing what he has to say! Spending an afternoon with him, afterall may be a viable way to supplement your income or come upon a gift of clothes, jewelry a watch etc. ; )
Because of the history of that nation, Dominican women tend to be much more receptive to tourists then what my experience has been in other countries.
In Sosua, por ejemplo, I've chatted with the check-out girl in the Playero Supermercado while I'm buying my groceries, and then afterwards (when I notice that there is nobody behind me in line) I'll ask her what kind of music she likes, where she goes out on Saturday Nights, if she has any friends "as beautiful as she is" etc etc.
She'll turn to me and smile and answer my questions playfully and in a friendly way.
I can recall in Venezuela and Nicaragua for example. Talking to girls in the supermarket checkout lines and having them look at me with an expression that clearly suggested "what the heck is this 40 yo American guy talking to me for? "
Different atmosphere, different (very pro-tourist) attitude in the DR. Tips the odds in your favor. This, more than anything else is to your advantage with regular chicas.
Cheers. Excellent insight from a professional! Most young Dominican men do not have alot of spendable cash, so it is nice to enjoy the company of a tourist.
Marc Anthony
06-20-07, 15:36
I don't have wide experience elsewhere in LA so I can't compare directly but I have the impression that Dominican culture is also very friendly to players even without the added effect of tourism. It seems like every little village has a disco tipico and bars that have camereras that can be taken out after paying salida. Cabanas are all over. Most of these businesses rarely see an extranjero. I have the impression that Dominican men with as much disposable cash as a tourist have always taken advantage of the opportunities and the culture assumes this is natural. On the numbers I have to assume that out of a population of 9 million there are several hundred thousand dominican men with enough means to pick up chicas regularly. At any given time there can't be more than a few thousand to a few tens of thousands of extranjero mongers (tourist and expat). This suggests that nine tenths of the field could be domestic.
The only difference is that the local culture expects a lot of discretion. A man with money is expected to have a girlfriend or two in addition to the wife and to still pick up an incidental chica now and then. He's expected to be very private about it however and to keep these things out of public view. Don't ask, don't tell.
I might be wrong but I have the impression that a 40 or 50 y.o. Dominican man, well dressed, would be well recieved flirting with a 20 y.o. cashier just about anywhere in the country. Hey, being a motoconcho is upscale enough for a lot of chicas.
A local guy might be faking it but any tourist is by definition well off. He's got a passport, residency in a fabulous foreign place, and enough money to pay to travel. A car is another hard to fake indicator. In the DR all cars come standard with a pussymagnet.
Cunning Linguist
06-21-07, 17:34
More than worrying about some kind of clever "pick up" lines, you'the be best advised to learn the signs of how to avoid being taken for a ride by a 25 year old hottie, who is out to scam you. There are no shortage of those in Sosua, those who are called "tigres" or "mafiosa". And they can fool you into wasting your money and time. No doubt you will learn the hard way. At least once!
Again, good luck. Based on the amount of research you are doing, I would bet you'll have a wonderful time. Especially with the Haitianas.
#2128Although I have discussed this with Helpmann, perhaps other veterans might contribute towards giving some tips regarding sussing out tigresses
Helpman wrote, more or less, and forgive me if I have erred
1. Tigresses are aggressive and invariably the ones who will be hustling and hassling you.
2. Tigresses are usually older.
3. Tigresses hang out at professional bars.
4. Haitian girls? might tend to be more hard-cored (but this is disputed)
What are other tell-tale signs that there is a tigress in gazelle's clothing?
I think that any contribution would be most welcome by members
Thank you in advance
I am certainly, anyway, looking forward to meeting dark Haitian girls.
A great assortment of young hot chicas at reasonable prices. Plus all the amenities, many have mentioned. For example--the best body ever, 3 exceptionally hot looking young chicas, others.
Member #2128
06-24-07, 08:04
Although I have discussed this with Helpmann, perhaps other veterans might contribute towards giving some tips regarding sussing out tigresses
Helpman wrote, more or less, and forgive me if I have erred
1. Tigresses are aggressive and invariably the ones who will be hustling and hassling you.
2. Tigresses are usually older.
3. Tigresses hang out at professional bars.
4. Haitian girls? might tend to be more hard-cored (but this is disputed)
What are other tell-tale signs that there is a tigress in gazelle's clothing?
I think that any contribution would be most welcome by members
Thank you in advance
I am certainly, anyway, looking forward to meeting dark Haitian girls.
No one could go wrong following Helpmann's guide to Tigresses. He's on the center of the target IMHO. On the other hand, a novice such as yourself could be charmed by a young Haitiana, who at the outset seems so "friendly", rather than aggressive, and she is so lovely and lean with the perkiest of brown-nippled breasts and the roundest of perfect asses, that you turn into a pile of sweet pudding! Next thing you know, you've paid double or triple the going rate, the service is less than enthusiastic and something is missing from your belongings the next morning. Joi de vivre!
I prefer to steer clear, like Helpmann, of those (tigresses) who are too pushy or aggressive in coming on to you. I prefer the "eye contact" and "smile" as the gentle, but not-so-subtle signal to make the move. Putas that approach me by touching me (picking my pocket?) and babbling on about how they are going to please me sexually, are usually shunned as a rule. I move quickly away!
Bottom line maybe, is that a tigress in gazelle's (Helpmann again!) clothing looks and acts like a gazelle. This is where the monger's 6th sense has to working, as it does at all times in the DR. You need to proceed slowly, get a good sense, then proceed further, and keep going until the point where you put your money into her hands. If there comes a point where you hear something or see something that seems "wrong", you stop the process and move on. What's "wrong" is usually determined in 20/20 hindsight, as you may have read in some reports here. These mistakes, hopefully do not involve bodily harm or encounters with the legal system. They are just part of the learning curve and may cost you a few thousand pesos. The cost of the lesson. And from what I have gathered here, you are a very good student! LOL. In fact, the best course on Sosua is taught on calle Pedro Cliente (spelling?) by the girls.
I envy you your upcoming feast of Haitiana sweetness (the non-tigresses!). Please don't flake without a report back, to all those here who have been so available to answer your questions! Pictures would be even better! We, who are land-locked in America the Beautiful are counting on you C.L.
Cheers,
#2128
I was staying in Sosua the first two weeks of June again and i really had fun there again. I meet some nice new gals and also some who walking there for a long time. When i wanted to pick up a girl i was not willing to pay more then 1500 peso for the hole night. Some of them came up for over 2000 peso. so my first question was then, if this price was for a week or what? I meet a nice girl from Puerto Plata. I stayed with her several times from evening till next day around lunchtime. We agreed for 1500 and it was no problem. She was a sexmaniac and it was really nice. Something like she is hard to find there. As i can speak some Spanish we talked about everything open. She sayed that im for her more than just a client, okay i didn't count on that.
During lunchtime we went down to the beach and she said that there is a client looking for her. I sayd, that i didn't have any problem, when she likes to go for work, as i also wanted some freedom to look for other girls. I had her cell number so she had mine, so to get her back was no problem. I went with her also to Puerto Plata to go up to the mountain and so. was nice to relax a bit from hard work, guess u know what i mean. The weather during daytime was really hot, but at least not so much rain.
One of my friend was the first time there and he couldn't speak any Spanish, so he had a lot of problem with the gals and sometimes i had to translate for him.
Sometimes during daytime i young Dominican Girl came to visit me in my hotel and she was really nice. Mostly i paid her more or less then 500 Peso and she never counted it. i know her from my last visits and never had any problem. One time she came tree time on a day, oh it was hard work, smile.
Now since the casino in playa dorado has also a disco who is open much longer, many of the girls who haven't find a man till the bars close, go there to find her luck. Before it was a little better, as when the bars have to close you could get a girl for a good price, as they didn't had any other possibility to find a man.
The Disco in the Casino is not to bad, but as a tourist you pay 200 Peso for entrance and of course the moto concho for both way. I was there only once on my last evening with a girl, just to see how it looks like. Okay first we play a bit with the slot machine and got 50 peso out.
When you speak spanish and beeing there often, you know whats going on and which girl are nice or not. And you have a easier live there with less problem.
Two time i was staying in the afternoon by a friend in cheramico. He leaves on the mainstreet there and from he's balcony you could see many of the girls, which later on staying in the disco. He said, it was easy during daytime to get this girls for less then 500 Peso, by just calling them from the street. Well as he stays now with a girlfriend, we couldn't try and test that.
But as in my experience you can find mostly nice girls on the beach and arrange with them something for the evening or afternoon, for mostly a better price and then they are not tired or in a hurry. Best is also when u get a local orange prepaid card, so you can call them.
I stayed in the hotel Orchidee, which is a cheap hotel with less luxury but its really close, walking distance to the night life there, and of course no problem bringing girls in day and night.
If you wanna now anything about that hotel just ask me.
In the evening i was sitting mostly in the bar central, which is next to the merengue bar. The Service and the prices are much better and you didn't get disturbed so much. And if a thief or a bad girl is entering the bar you get sometimes informed by the owner or other ppl from the bar. From the bar you can look to the street and see what's walking up and down from merengue to sosua live.
So hope this report was a bit intresting and sorry about my bad english, as my mother tongue language is (swiss)german.
Ben el Suizo
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DR Monger II
06-24-07, 14:07
Has the violence from Cabarete spill over to Sosua? There seems to be a lot of reports on DR1 about robberies in Cabarete? I think these are house robberies. I'm not sure if they are robberies against tourists walking down the street?
If you have any info on MRSA in the DR please contact me .
John JR
Has the violence from Cabarete spill over to Sosua? There seems to be a lot of reports on DR1 about robberies in Cabarete? I think these are house robberies. I'm not sure if they are robberies against tourists walking down the street?The time I was there I didn't hear anyting about real robberies in Sosua.
Now since the casino in Playa Dorado has also a disco who is open much longer, many of the girls who haven't find a man till the bars close, go there to find her luck. Before it was a little better, as when the bars have to close you could get a girl for a good price, as they didn't had any other possibility to find a man.Ups sorry the disco I mean is of course in Playa Chiquita not Playa Dorado outside of the center (El Batey) from Sosua.
Escort King
06-25-07, 21:45
Ups sorry the disco I mean is of course in Playa Chiquita not Playa Dorado outside of the center (El Batey) from Sosua.
Has to be Chiquita... Dorado is near the airport
Mr Enternational
06-26-07, 06:00
me and 7 friends arrived at hotel plaza europa. we were greeted (damn near attacked) by a chick named daisy who was hanging out in front. there were several more women in the bullpen but the only one who sticks out is the one who may have been a candidate if she had not shaved off her eyebrows only to draw a thick set of fake ones in their place. we put our things into our rooms and gathered to go on a hunt for food. on the way, i asked the little youngster haitian touts to take me to the verizon store. when that mission was complete i gave 30 pesos to whoever grabbed first. inside the verizon store the lady tested my quad band to see if it would pick up service. it did. however she said that i would have to go to the phone center at the grocery store in order to buy a chip and have it activated.
a gentleman who worked in the verizon store was kind enough to lead us to the grocery store. he packed what appeared to be a pistol with a homemade handle in his right pocket. inside the store there were two cell phone booths. the one i needed was claro. i was the third person in line but ended up waiting about 45 minutes due to the difficulties of the first lady in line and there only being one representative. i ended up buying a sim chip for 290 pesos and a card for an additional 200 pesos. i tried to add minutes via the spanish line many times and each time it would tell me that the secret number was invalid. i tried the english line a few times and it told me the same thing. i was very frustrated but decided to go back to the spanish line. then it worked. it was time to call up my non-pros and fit them into my tight schedule.
my friend insisted on stopping into a restaurant on the beach that a tout had directed us to despite my warning that it would be a rip-off as it always is. we sat down and a gentleman brought menus to us. 390 pesos for a cheeseburger? fuck y'all we are out of here. when we exited the beach onto the asphalt and walked up the hill some babes in a blue sport truck passed us in the other direction. the driver was smoking so i flagged them down. not wanting to block traffic she drove down the hill and made a u-turn. i leaned into the driver's window and admired her implants. the said they didn't have any plans so they invited us to come with them. me, my cousin, and another friend squeezed ourselves into the vehicle with the four ladies while 3 of my other friends kept walking. the driver was from santo domingo and had no idea where to go for food. i said fuck it, let's go to puerto plata. from the back seat i continuously rubbed the driver's left arm and shoulder while i kissed on the chick who was next to me in the back seat. we finally arrived at a restaurant on the waterfront in puerto plata.
when the driver got out of the vehicle we were in awe. she was fucking fine, with washboard abs. it felt like a plastic board was implanted in her abdomen. she refused to order food saying that she didn't want to get fat. the rest of us ate, drank and were merry to a tune of 800 pesos that was split 3 ways among the guys. while we ate i tried to pick the driver. i asked the usual: who do you live with, what do you do. she finally told me that her brother is very popular in puerto plata and she comes from santo domingo twice a month to make money fucking. she says she lives with her mom and her son and that the car is a rental. i asked her several times why she is a "puta" but each time she denies being a puta. i never asked what term she prefered. i asked her what her rates were. she said 100 us. for the rest of the trip that seemed to be the first rate that would come out of any girl's mouth. from that time on i was quiet with her. i was not about to give her 100 us and i didn't even feel like negotiating although i am a master at it.
when we left the restaurant the truck was riding on fumes. she asked where we wanted to go and we told her back to the hotel in sosua. my friends planned on getting busy with the girls they had. we stopped into a gas station and she asked for money for gas. we scraped up 300 pesos for 2 gallons of gas. we we left the gas station she pulled over and wanted us to get out because she didn't want to drive all the way back to sosua. her friends argued with her because they thought they were going to go back and get paid from us. she finally gave in and drove the 35 minutes back to sosua. when we arrived my friend decided not to take his girl for whatever reason and my cousin's girl gave a warning that she was bleeding so he some way blew her off and snuck off to his room with the girl my friend had had. the damage was 1200 pesos according to him. the bleeding one continued to ask where he was but we actually had no idea until he told us later. she sat outside his door for about two hours waiting for him. the one who was next to me in the back seat disappeared as soon as everyone got out of the truck. it was a shame because i actually wanted to hit it as an appetizer. the driver rolled up the windows in the car and did a wonder woman. she changed her clothes and when she got out she was even more banging than before. she talked on her cell a few minutes then jumped in the ride and left. one of my non-pros called saying she was on the way.
Mr Enternational,
Very nice report! The first installment of your Sosua trip report, gives us a good feel for the atmosphere on the northcoast on a typical day.
Also, you certainly "called" that restaurant correct that the tout gave you. $10 cheeseburgers! I'm really trying to rack my brain and come up with one place....in any country I've ever been, that was recommended by a tout and turned out to be a good value. Can't think of one. ;)
"Puta" is a very derrogatory word. Even women who admittedly sleep with men for money as their full means of support still don't want to be referred too as "putas."
Here's a fun word.....instead of "puta" try using "emprendedora"
It means "enterprising female." In the past in places like SDQ for example, after I've established that the girls that I'm talking too make themselves available at times for p4p, I'll remark "so in other words you are all emprendedoras?"
The girls will laugh and clap their hands and smile and say,
"¡Sí eso es cierto! Somos hembras emprendedoras!!" :D
Mr Enternational
06-27-07, 01:46
Yeah but I like to really lay it out there and shock the shit out of them. So I come right out and say puta. Of course most of them don't consider themselves as such even though that is exactly what they are. They would rather consider themselves on a level above. But whether 5 star escort or crack *****, they are all fucking for money. If it has 4 wheels, 2 doors, and an engine I'm going to call it a car. But I still won't argue if you would rather call only some cars while calling others automobiles.
"Puta" is a very derrogatory word. Even women who admittedly sleep with men for money as their full means of support still don't want to be referred too as "putas."
Here's a fun word.....instead of "puta" try using "emprendedora"
It means "enterprising female." In the past in places like SDQ for example, after I've established that the girls that I'm talking too make themselves available at times for p4p, I'll remark "so in other words you are all emprendedoras?"
The girls will laugh and clap their hands and smile and say,
"¡Sí eso es cierto! Somos hembras emprendedoras!!" :D
You said "I asked her several times why she is a puta? But each time she denied that she was. I didn't ask her what name she'd prefer..........."
........I was giving you a name she might prefer.
(I didn't know that this is alittle game you play with the working girls - you never said that.)
Yeah but I like to really lay it out there and shock the shit out of them. So I come right out and say puta. Of course most of them don't consider themselves as such even though that is exactly what they are. They would rather consider themselves on a level above. But whether 5 star escort or crack *****, they are all fucking for money. If it has 4 wheels, 2 doors, and an engine I'm going to call it a car. But I still won't argue if you would rather call only some cars while calling others automobiles.
I guess as long as you don't mind them calling you what they think you are, and you don't mind us calling you what we think you are, then everyone is happy.
Now what do you think they think you are? And what do you think we think you are?
Mr Enternational
06-27-07, 03:33
It doesn't really matter to me. I know who and what I am.
I guess as long as you don't mind them calling you what they think you are, and you don't mind us calling you what we think you are, then everyone is happy.
Now what do you think they think you are? And what do you think we think you are?
Mr Enternational
06-27-07, 05:19
I walked down the street "taking the temperature" at each bar as I went along. Being a Sosua virgin I didn't know how things worked there. However, being a world-class monger I had no worries. I ended up settling on the side walk in front of the bar at the entrance to Latino's (which I remained ignorant of until the following night). I sat back and observed. Anything female had a price. It seemed the bartenders were thought of as premium and commanded the most money. And there were several who were indeed stunners. One of my friends made the acquaintance of a deaf or mute young lady. She was very nice. They seemed to understand each other quite well although he is a non-Spanish-speaking Puerto Rican and he sure as hell doesn't know sign language. It seemed that at that point she had put a LoJack on him because no matter what inconspicuous places we were in for the rest of the weekend she would always pop up.
Time was passing so I called my non-pro (Girl A) to see how close she was to the hotel. She told me 10 minutes. When I hung up she called back in no more than 20 seconds saying that she had arrived and the hotel and was in the lobby. I told her that I was walking the street and would arrive back at the hotel in about 5 minutes. It just so happens that a friend of mine met her coworker (Girl B) on an internet site and she had brought her along to meet him. Before I arrived they went to his room (he had called and given her his information earlier in the day) but he was not in. They tried calling his cell but it was turned off. I told them that I had no idea where he was. But of course I knew all the while.
Girl A appologized for it taking so long for her to arrive but said that they had been detained by the police for two hours because one of her headlights was out. She said that he was calling everywhere from Santiago to Santo Domingo, for what reason she did not know. She verbally offered him money but he did not want to accept. Then she handed him a one-thousand-peso bill which he gladly accpeted and let her go. I looked under the hood and told her that we would put in a new light the first thing in the morning. Although she said how much the past event was eating at her she was a bit non-chalant about my offer.
We stood outside at her car while the mosquitos feasted on my fresh blood. Just then my friend walks across the street and into the hotel with a tasty delight. Girl B was facing away from the hotel with her back against the car so I was pretty sure that she did not see him. Me and Girl A were facing the car and the hotel so I was quite sure that she had seen a gentleman and a young lady but I was not sure if she knew that it was my friend. But as tall as he is he is unmistakeable. We went into my hotel for a few minutes then Girl A said that she wanted something to drink. I still had not had a chance to stock my reefer so she insisted on making a trip to the store.
I told her that they should go ahead and I would wait in the room. She insisted that I come as well. I made up a lie and told her that I didn't want to come because I had to use the bathroom. That didn't work either. She told me that they would wait outside. The bedroom of my hotel suite had a door leading into the courtyard where the pool is. I figured I could go that way to my friend's room to tell him what was going on. I turned the light on in the bathroom and closed the door. Then I went into the bedroom to try to exit into the courtyard. The door was locked and the key would not work with it. Come to find out that only the maid has access through the damn door. O well. I go to the store with them and we also hit the beach for about 10 minutes.
When we arrived at my room I told them that I would be right back. I ran up and told my friend what the deal was. He was just wrapping up with the honey and told me of her milky tits. He said he would be down in 10 minutes. I stopped back by the front desk and got minicups to bring back with me as my excuse for leaving the ladies. When my friend showed up Girl A could not stop laughing. I kept asking why she was laughing but she would not tell me. Then she finally said that she was laughing because Girl B had seen my friend go to his room with the chica. I just shrugged it off. My friend finally took Girl B to his room and out of the way of my groove. I handled things until 1:30am when it was time for them to leave on their 1 hour journey home. She promised to come by the next morning so we could go out.
By now you know my style. I am not the type to sleep alone so I needed a bed warmer. The hunt was on. I high tailed it back down to the bar in front of Latino's and continued to feel things out. Then I walked in front of Classico's where I saw my cousin. He was pretty much lit but called me over to the side of the bar to meet a couple of chicas. One of them would have been okay except for "the damn eyebrow thing." I mean all I could think of was waking up next to the chick after her drawn eyebrows had worn off during the night and she scaring the shit out of me. I could not hack it.
I went back curbside while 2am approached. That is when I met Girl C. She was nice and basic. A beautiful young lady without makeup or fancy clothes. She introduced herself to me and I held on to her hand for a while. She said that she was a med school student from Santiago and it was her first night in Sosua as well. She was there because she needed money for school. Her cousin was her link into that world. She told me that it was two o'clock and everything was about to close. She wanted to know what I was going to do. I asked her how much she wanted. Her reply, "100 US." WTF? Do they all go the same class to learn this reply? Right then I threw her hand away from mine. I ignored her for a while as I talked to my friends and watched the other cuties. She interrupted my gazing by telling me that she really liked me. I said yeah whatever. I will be ready to talk as soon as you want to be serious. She asked what I meant. I told her that I was not about to give her 100 US. She reminded me that it was her first time there and she did not know how things worked but she really liked me. She asked how much I would give her. I said 1000 pesos for the whole night. She agreed without blinking. The sidewalk was getting pretty crowded. I bid my friends adieu and told them that I had made my choice and would see them in the morning.
Victor Lazlo
06-27-07, 11:17
It doesn't really matter to me. I know who and what I am.To Ford and Frannie, I'd like to say that once again I am impressed by what caballeros we "mongers" can sometimes be.
I have my first trip there in about two weeks. Find your reports to be full of good info. Keep them coming!
Have been mostly seeking the best looking chicas, most of which give average sex. Today I did a ''nooner'' with a #7. Great provider, cheap, 4'' tongue, 1 hour of bbbjs and DFK, Julie. Live and learn again!
Mr Enternational
07-02-07, 02:38
When we got to the crib we layed on the bed and relaxed a few minutes. Just when the laziness set in me she was ready to take a shower. I followed her to the bathroom and entered the shower after her. After we thoroughly wet ourselves with the showerhead, I took a bar of Zest soap and rubbed it all over her body, paying special attention to the breasts and nipples. Then I put the soap down and rubbed the front of my body against the front of hers so we could be jointly lathered. She continued to say how much she really liked me. The GFE had begun. She washed my back just how I like. After we rinsed off she went to the back of the tub, turned me to face her, and she dropped to her knees. I am not one to tip working girls, but at this very moment the 1000 peso deal just turned to 1500.
When I got bored with the BBBJ in the shower I turned the water off, grabbed my towel, and exited to the bedroom. She followed after me and asked if I had lotion. I tossed her the small bottle of lotion that I had picked up in a hotel God-knows-where. She said that she wanted to give me a massage. I'm thinking this shit is too good to be true. I started to fall asleep from the decent massage until it turned into a BBBJ, which turned into 69. After all was said and done we drifted off to sleep.
The next morning I awoke to another BBBJ. I was thinking that I would like to hit the ass one more time before sending her on her way. But, I could not get her to come up for air. She had a pitbull grip on me. The more I tried to remove her head from my mid-section, the tighter she held on. She was in it for the CIM. SPLASH!
We got up and went to the shower again. When we got out and got dressed I was ready to pay her to leave because my non-pro would be arriving soon. We stood at the door and I whipped out my pesos. I tried to give her a 1000-peso bill but she refused. I told her that I know she has school so she needs to accept the money. She steadfastly refused saying that she really liked me and she has never slept with anyone for money. She told me to only give her money for the motoconcho to go to her cousin's house. I told her that I did not know the cost so I opened my hands showing the maybe 3000 pesos that I had. She selected a 50-peso bill and was on her way. I told her that I would send her an email with my info later.
Mr Enternational
07-02-07, 02:46
I don't think I will ever stay at this hotel again. Many people have complained about the air conditioning in their room being on the fritz to no avail. However, my biggest gripe was the noise.
I woke up prematurely at 8 this morning, after partying and fucking all night, with the feeling that I was at a construction site. It sounded like a jackhammer was going in one of the upstairs rooms. Between the jackhammering was the sound of someone busting up tile or concrete with a hammer. In addition to that there was a guy outside of my room with a pressure washer cleaning the pool area.
About 10am I had sense enough to get up and fetch my earplugs. All the while, the young lady next to me stayed sound asleep. I finally got up at 11:30 to get one last nut in, get ready, and get to the airport. When I left for the airport at 1:15pm the construction sounds continued on without ceasation.
I think it is ridiculous for the staff of Plaza Europa to subject guests to this maltreatment. Afterall, people come there to vacation, relax, and take a load off. There should at least be some warning to guests when they make reservations or check-in of the abuse they are about to endure; especially on a Sunday morning where things around the rest of the world are usually quiet.
Member #2128
07-02-07, 07:49
<<<One of my friends made the acquaintance of a deaf or mute young lady. She was very nice.>>>
Mr. E, did your friend go beyond the acquaintance stage with this girl and test her non-verbal skills? I met this same girl on the beach during the day and also saw her a few times at night at one of the clubs. Although she was on my "to do" list, I was always otherwise occupied and never got the chance to invite her home. Just curious about what I may have missed....and can look forward to next time, if I get lucky.
Thanks,
#2128
Mr Enternational
07-02-07, 11:09
No, he did not.
Does anyone have an opinion or past experience with this place ? It is supposed to be next door to hotel garden keti ( I believe the re-named new garden hotel?)
Thanks
GrouchoMarx
07-02-07, 13:23
I will be in Sosua from the 4th through the 10th. Staying at the New Garden (3rd time at this hotel). Anyone else in town?
Does anyone have an opinion or past experience with this place ? It is supposed to be next door to hotel garden keti ( I believe the re-named new garden hotel?)
Thanks
I have stayed there in the past several times, and it was OK. If the owner is still the same, she is a very nice lady. Things I did not like:
No air conditioning. There are fans in the rooms but they are small and underpowered, and it can get very hot in those rooms.
Rooms are dark and although there are lights, they are dim. I found it a nuisance when I was looking for things in my suitcase or trying to read.
The pool is nice, and so is the decor of the rooms, the location is good, and I would stay there again, but only in the cooler months of the year.
Anybody has real info on this?
http://blogcalle.********.com/2007/07/aparece-mujer-muerta-en-cabarete.html
We were planning on going to Sosua for a few days. We read in the forum that Voramar Hotel has a bar open 24/7 (this has been confirmed by the owner) with pretty loud Latin music, making it difficult for quests to sleep/rest. Since we wanted to go to the Voramar, could anybody help us with information on that subject?
I would like spend some days in Sosua at the end of July. What quiet hotel do you recomended, near the action but no noisy. Thanks.
We were planning on going to Sosua for a few days. We read in the forum that Voramar Hotel has a bar open 24/7 (this has been confirmed by the owner) with pretty loud Latin music, making it difficult for quests to sleep/rest. Since we wanted to go to the Voramar, could anybody help us with information on that subject?Yes the bar from Voramar is open 24/7 and cus of this it can be sometimes really noise. The problem is, that the hotel is at the end of the world, or end of Sosua, so you need for going out or to the beach all the time a motoconcho, only the Casino is in the walking distance. Okay the Casino has a disco, as i wrote in a report before, who is open till 4 in the morning. So some guest didn't go out and stay at the bar hole night, and the more alcohol they have, to more noise you get.
Ben el suizo
We were planning on going to Sosua for a few days. We read in the forum that Voramar Hotel has a bar open 24/7 (this has been confirmed by the owner) with pretty loud Latin music, making it difficult for quests to sleep/rest. Since we wanted to go to the Voramar, could anybody help us with information on that subject?
When i was there several guests complaint to the managers about the noise during the night
The voramar also offers 1 and 2 bedroom appartments which are behind the 2 main buildings and further away from the bar area. I stayed there in feb. and march 2007 and they were really quiet.
The appartments also have a kitchen and a fridge so you can buy your own stuff at the close by latino supermarket in case you are on a tight budget.
For further information concerning the appartments just have a look at their website.
I stayed their and did not like it I had a leak in my room complained it never got fixed. I had no problem with noise but did not go to bed till 2 am most nights. I am staying this trip at hotelchessa@hotmail.com Phone 809 571 3412 7\15 7\23 it right by the Voramar I check it out on my last trip and like it .
Anybody has real info on this?
http://blogcalle.********.com/2007/07/aparece-mujer-muerta-en-cabarete.html
Hey mate, this link is a mess. I immediately got two "pop-up" adverts and a warning from my Norton Anti-virus that it blocked a trojan virus. :eek:
Puerto La Cruz
07-07-07, 04:01
I'm putting this on the Sosua board as alot of us have run into each other there. Anybody know what happened to www.*******.com?????????
Its been off for a few days now and maybe shut down forever. Anybody know what's up with that?
Do anyone have any bad experiences staying at Casa Cayena.
They charge 70 per night with breakfast.
www.hotelcasacayena.com
Do anyone have any bad experiences staying at Casa Cayena.
They charge 70 per night with breakfast.
www.hotelcasacayena.com
Im staying there for two nights because the new garden was booked solid. Wilfried from new garden offered to put me up there for the two nights he couldnt book me. I agreed since it seems to be a busy season. I always panic with hotel situations and availability.
Im not thrilled about paying $70 or the $20 extra person charge. Does anyone know if the $20 includes visitors?
Hey mate, this link is a mess. I immediately got two "pop-up" adverts and a warning from my Norton Anti-virus that it blocked a trojan virus. :eek:
why don't you use firefox, no worms and no popups.
Crazy Jim Wood
07-09-07, 19:13
Here's some pics of a "modela" I picked up in Classico's in Sosua as a token of my gratitude to all the board members who helped me out.
2,000 short time and great pictures. She is not a GFE but she does have very perky tits. Good thing the pictures are not scratch and sniff because she slightly reeked of ass. Slightly but enough to put me off. She also had an attitude problem (wanted to be paid first) and was clearly in a hurry to get back to the disco. But she did make good efforts to get me off and spoke great English.
CJW
Here's some pics of a "modela" I picked up in Classico's in Sosua as a token of my gratitude to all the board members who helped me out.
2,000 short time and great pictures. She is not a GFE but she does have very perky tits. Good thing the pictures are not scratch and sniff because she slightly reeked of ass. Slightly but enough to put me off. She also had an attitude problem (wanted to be paid first) and was clearly in a hurry to get back to the disco. But she did make good efforts to get me off and spoke great English.
CJW
OK, well done with the perky tits, but here are a couple of tips, Crazy. Supply them with some nice scented shampoo and insist they take a precoital shower and wash out all nooks and crannies. Don't prepay. Avoid the ones who speak English--they will have been corrupted! Otherwise you did great. Glad you enjoyed it.
Escort King
07-09-07, 21:09
Here's some pics of a "modela" I picked up in Classico's in Sosua as a token of my gratitude to all the board members who helped me out.
2,000 short time and great pictures. She is not a GFE but she does have very perky tits. Good thing the pictures are not scratch and sniff because she slightly reeked of ass. Slightly but enough to put me off. She also had an attitude problem (wanted to be paid first) and was clearly in a hurry to get back to the disco. But she did make good efforts to get me off and spoke great English.
CJW
st is up to 2000 now... damn glad I prefer Colombia now
st is up to 2000 now... damn glad I prefer Colombia now
I was under the impression that ST was $1000 and LT was $1500 thats all Im willing to pay after my X ploits in buenos aires and lima.
The pictures below of that spinner are great. I actually would have welcomed smelling her ass and even having a taste of it. The pro attitude would have been a real turn off for me though. I didnt choose wisely last time but I know what to look for this time around. Ill have a few drinks at classicos etc. but Im going hunting in the barrios on foot in the daytime.
Im coming down next week for two weeks.
Do anyone have any bad experiences staying at Casa Cayena.
They charge 70 per night with breakfast.
www.hotelcasacayena.comCasa Cayena is a very nice hotel with a decent breakfast and a nice pool. I paid the two person rate and had no problems bringing guests back day or night. If you have a guest in the morning she will also get a free breakfast since you paid the double rate.
The only bad things about Casa Cayena is the distance from the strip at night and the hotel rate.
Be sure to take a short walk down the hill to The Waterfront Hotel/Restaurant and enjoy a great meal with a beautiful view.
Tom Gueguen
07-10-07, 02:10
I was under the impression that ST was $1000 and LT was $1500 thats all Im willing to pay after my X ploits in buenos aires and lima.
The pictures below of that spinner are great. I actually would have .
ST should be between 500 and 1000, LT between 800 and 1500 if she's very good.
At higher price, sure she's a pro and probably will be hardcore.
It's a buyer, no need to pay the high prices when ther is chicas everywhere. (even if you're horny!)
Mr Enternational
07-10-07, 02:11
prices are not carved in stone. they go according to negotiation and/or game. one late afternoon i was sitting in front of the hotel on the swing with girl a, who does not speak english. i started with a frequent game of mine where i act like i don't speak spanish. she was just right for me. she kept playing with the long goatee that i am growing out. her friend, girl b, was about 8 feet from us arguing in english with an american guy who was her supposed bf. i heard him trying to save her. he said that other american guys do not want her the way he does. they only want to fuck her. girl a said that the guy did not want girl b to work and was he very jealous. i told her that when he leaves i am going to fuck his girl. when he finally did leave i teased girl b that she was going to get an ass whooping then i jokingly invited her to come sit on my lap.
when i got tired of having girl b translate for my no spanish game, i eased into the local language. girl a was shocked and said she could not believe that i teased her like that, acting as if i didn't speak spanish. i asked her how much to fuck and she said 2500. i did not mention it again. i got to know her a bit. i asked her why she worked and what she wanted out of life. she said she wanted a boyfriend. i asked how she expected to have a boyfriend being a hooker. i asked her that if i was her boyfriend would it be okay if i fucked other women. she said no. i told her but you fuck other guys. she said what all working girls say, for her it's a job. i found out that she is from santo domingo and was just in sosua to work a short time to get money to support her baby. she said that the baby's father jetted to ny and she never heard from him again (a story that i am starting to hear frequently from pros and non-pros alike). she was staying in a hotel up the street for 220 pesos/day. i was anxious to check it out so i asked her to take me there. she said she would later but we never got around to it.
i ordered some buffalo wings and sat on the swing talking to her and throwing the bones to the house dog. i asked her if she would like to go to the beach with me the following day and she said yes. we exchanged phone numbers. i then asked her what she was doing that same night and she said that she was free. right then one of my non-pros called saying that she had arrived at bailey's and was waiting for me. i hopped on a motoconcho and was out.
after my date, it was about 10 pm when i was walking back to the hotel, passing the bars and clubs on the way. girl a and girl b were walking in the opposite direction dressed for the club. i told girl a that i was going to get some rest and that i would see her the next day. i texted her at 10:30pm asking where she was but there was no response.
she woke me up at 9 the next morning with a text saying that her cell was in her purse. i asked when i was going to see her and she replied whenever i wanted. then she asked what time i wanted to go to the beach. i threw out noon as an arbitrary time. then i walked to the internet cafe at centinial about 11am. on my way there i saw girl a at a bar drinking a beer and talking to a gentleman. she called after me but i ignored her. she later sent me a text asking if i had gone to the beach without her. i texted her back saying that she only wanted to drink and work all morning and was not interested in the beach. she said the guy she was talking to was a friend and she really did want to go with me. by this time i was back in the room. she then asked where i was and said she wanted to come see me. i told her that i was in my room and she was welcomed to come.
we kept playing tag because she would say she was at the reception and they would not let her in without me. then i would leave out the room and would see nobody in front of the desk. i was getting pissed with her because i was watching the end of star wars. then she said she was outside on the side of my room by the street, which was not accessable by a guest key. i peeked out and saw her and told her i would meet her at the desk. she left her id witht he clerk and when we got in the room i reverted to my position on the bed and continued to watch the movie.
she pulled my swim trunks down and starting giving me a bbbj. i was loving it but then thought to myself that i had better ascertain the cause. i asked her how much that was going to cost me and she said she had told me yesterday. i needed verification so i asked what did you tell me? she said 2500 pesos. i immediatedly pulled my shorts back up and continued to watch the movie, ignoring her and thinking to myself that she wouldn't be sucking any dick that i had for 2500 pesos.
then she pulled my shorts completely off and started sucking again. i said look, i am not giving you 2500 pesos. she said okay well only 2000. i was about to lose it. what part of i'm not a stupid mf did she not understand? i said stressingly that "i might, i might give you 1500 pesos for all night, but this is the middle of the day so you need to talk to me with a little more sense." she said, "what, do you just want it for free then?" i told her that i understood she had to work and i'm not saying that i want anything for free, but she needs to come with a real price. then she said she would just do it for free.
when it was over we dozed off. another of my non-pros who i said i would meet at the beach at 3 started texting me asking where i was. also the one who i had gone out the night before kept calling and i kept pressing ignore. i guess she finally got enough of the phone disturbing our quiet time and she said that she would leave now.
it turned out to be one of the best sessions p4p or non-p4p that i have ever had. we had a good chemistry in the sack together. i will definitely be visiting her in santo domingo whenever i am there.
Crazy Jim Wood
07-10-07, 02:44
Most of the time prices are 2000 lt or 1000 st, but it can range up and down a little and quality can also range a little.
I think you are going to miss out on a lot of fun if you let the odd 500 pesos stop you or are afraid to take a chance every now and then.
Life is an adventure: spend another 500 pesos and live a little.
I think in the long run the pictures really made it worth it.
Hell, even the perverse humor in hearing some hot chica with a smelly ass say "Me ficky ficky... Papi why you no leche" is priceless in retrospect.
ST should be between 500 and 1000, LT between 800 and 1500 if she's very good.
At higher price, sure she's a pro and probably will be hardcore.
It's a buyer, no need to pay the high prices when ther is chicas everywhere. (even if you're horny!)
Casa Cayena is a very nice hotel with a decent breakfast and a nice pool. I paid the two person rate and had no problems bringing guests back day or night. If you have a guest in the morning she will also get a free breakfast since you paid the double rate.
The only bad things about Casa Cayena is the distance from the strip at night and the hotel rate.
Be sure to take a short walk down the hill to The Waterfront Hotel/Restaurant and enjoy a great meal with a beautiful view.
It better be good for $85 plus tax (2 people) I think its a ridiculous price for sosua but I have no idea how busy it is down there. I dont do LT either. All I would want is a chica in my room for 2 hours or so. What do you think my chances are of that happening without paying extra?
It better be good for $85 plus tax (2 people) I think its a ridiculous price for sosua but I have no idea how busy it is down there. I dont do LT either. All I would want is a chica in my room for 2 hours or so. What do you think my chances are of that happening without paying extra?It has been about a year and a half since I stayed at Casa Cayena. If the current rates are $85 plus tax I would say forget it. Casa Cayena is nice but not worth the new rate. My last visit to Sosua I stayed at New Garden which is a much better deal. Casa Valeria, with mixed reviews, seems to be another option.
It has been about a year and a half since I stayed at Casa Cayena. If the current rates are $85 plus tax I would say forget it. Casa Cayena is nice but not worth the new rate. My last visit to Sosua I stayed at New Garden which is a much better deal. Casa Valeria, with mixed reviews, seems to be another option.
I am staying at new garden for 12 of the 14 nights I am there. They had two nights that they couldnt fit me in and asked me if I wanted to stay next door (casa cayena). I said yes out of panic but I will look around when I get there. I stay the first two days at new garden then I move for two nights then back to new garden which means I need to look as soon as I get there....not fun but Ill figure it out. Thanks.
Funinthehotsun
07-11-07, 19:20
I am staying at new garden for 12 of the 14 nights I am there. They had two nights that they couldnt fit me in and asked me if I wanted to stay next door (casa cayena). I said yes out of panic but I will look around when I get there. I stay the first two days at new garden then I move for two nights then back to new garden which means I need to look as soon as I get there....not fun but Ill figure it out. Thanks.Check out Hotel Don Andres around the corner beside the Casa Marina.It is $30 a night has hot water, 24/7 power and air cond.
Stayed there a month ago and it was clean dry and chica friendly.
The bar even had good food.
Crazy Jim Wood
07-12-07, 17:14
Well, I just finished my last day on Sosua at the beach.
I met three girls from Passion on the beach for some fun in the sun. No salida as they were on their own time, but I had barfined two of them before.
I am going to list some of the beach prices so everyone has some idea of what a day at the beach will run you.
They arrived and left on their own motoconchos, and I walked and met them there, so no charge for transportation.
It was 10 pesos each to use the changing rooms. After we were done, one of the girls paid for my changing room. I thought it was very nice of her and gave her a big kiss.
It was 260 for four beach lounge chairs in the shade. Water was 5 pesos a bottle (20 for four bottles). They treated me to some fried bread with a ketchup-like sauce on it. I think it was less than 5 pesos for one.
I got them all temporary (henna?) tatoos, which seemed to be a big hit: three tatoos for 250 pesos (the asking price was 300).
It was a lot of fun playing in the surf with the girls, swimming out to the boats anchored off shore, and lounging on the beach chair holding my love for the moment tight.
Afterwards I gave them all a hug and kiss and waved as they drove off.
It was a very enjoyable afternoon for only 600 pesos or so.
Be sure to bring small bills, since no one has any change.
CJW
Crazy Jim Wood
07-12-07, 17:34
I'm not going to bore everyone with detailed stories of the hot chicas who provided great service, but here is a breakdown of prices:
Very nice girl from the Sosua car wash: 2,500 TLN.
Happy hour with two girls at la Passion: 1,800 (massage & HJ).
Take out from Passion: 2,500 TLN (includes 2,000 for the girl and 500 salida).
Hot but dicey girl from Classico: 2,000 ST (we bargained for 2,500 TLN but I decided to cut my losses).
Quickie with girl I met at the hotel pool: 1,000.
TLN with another girl that I met at the hotel pool: 2,000.
The Passions girls were all around the best: I went that route three times. I believe that you're guaranteed a good time with any girl you take out of Passions.
For the record, I found plenty of fair-skinned women with European features. Two had fairer skin than the Classico girl whose pictures I posted previously. I'm not going to post their pictures, since they were very reluctant to let me take pictures and probably do not want them posted.
I don't know if it is coincidence or not, but I paid 2,500 for those women and less for the darker complexioned women.
I would recommend staying away from the Haitians in general. For some reason the Haitians really seemed to like me (I saw them turn down willing customers to try to get me even though I clearly told them I was not interested). However, some of them seemed to be a bit psycho.
I did get a number from one Haitian who gave me an hour long lap dance at Latino disco even after I told her I had already paid a salida for another girl at Passions. She was very sweet, nice little ass (no pronounced bubble butt) and soft in all the right spots but no big gut. She had bangs and piggy tails (straight hair--I was a little concerned that it might not be her real hair), a big smile, nice makeup, and was very fashionably dressed. Well, I will definitely look up that one next time I'm in town. But, in general, I would steer clear of them.
Oh, a 100 peso tip to a hotel security guard will make him forget about a missing cedula.
Probably the most interesting thing I saw while in the DR was the chemistry that can develop between the girls and their customers. Some girls will not go with just any customer, and some girls pick you because they like your vibe and they will really like you on a personal level. Money still changes hands, but I think that you know what I mean.
CJW
Crazy jim wood-
Those are two really good reports. The day you spent at the beach sounds like alot of fun and a good way to see what these chicas are about. I will look for similar experiences.
I dont like the sound of those prices you were paying except for the girl you met in the hotel lobby but you cant judge it on just one guys experience. You have however been giving us a good idea of what to expect. Thank you.
I'm not going to bore everyone with detailed stories of the hot chicas who provided great service, but here is a breakdown of prices:
Very nice girl from the Sosua car wash: 2,500 TLN.
Happy hour with two girls at la Passion: 1,800 (massage & HJ).
Take out from Passion: 2,500 TLN (includes 2,000 for the girl and 500 salida).
Hot but dicey girl from Classico: 2,000 ST (we bargained for 2,500 TLN but I decided to cut my losses).
Quickie with girl I met at the hotel pool: 1,000.
TLN with another girl that I met at the hotel pool: 2,000.
The Passions girls were all around the best: I went that route three times. I believe that you're guaranteed a good time with any girl you take out of Passions.
For the record, I found plenty of fair-skinned women with European features. Two had fairer skin than the Classico girl whose pictures I posted previously. I'm not going to post their pictures, since they were very reluctant to let me take pictures and probably do not want them posted.
I don't know if it is coincidence or not, but I paid 2,500 for those women and less for the darker complexioned women.
I would recommend staying away from the Haitians in general. For some reason the Haitians really seemed to like me (I saw them turn down willing customers to try to get me even though I clearly told them I was not interested). However, some of them seemed to be a bit psycho.
I did get a number from one Haitian who gave me an hour long lap dance at Latino disco even after I told her I had already paid a salida for another girl at Passions. She was very sweet, nice little ass (no pronounced bubble butt) and soft in all the right spots but no big gut. She had bangs and piggy tails (straight hair--I was a little concerned that it might not be her real hair), a big smile, nice makeup, and was very fashionably dressed. Well, I will definitely look up that one next time I'm in town. But, in general, I would steer clear of them.
Oh, a 100 peso tip to a hotel security guard will make him forget about a missing cedula.
Probably the most interesting thing I saw while in the DR was the chemistry that can develop between the girls and their customers. Some girls will not go with just any customer, and some girls pick you because they like your vibe and they will really like you on a personal level. Money still changes hands, but I think that you know what I mean.
CJW
Glad you had a good time there. Now you see why Columbus quickly returned.
There are some nice Haitians, but of course the hair is an add-on, and the same goes for many of the Dominican girls. Have you ever seen a town with so many ladies' hairdressers.
BTW, you are right about the change. I always advise to change money at the bank at the aiport on arrival and ask them for at least 1000 pesos in 50's, because you can't get much change out of the ATMs.
Escort King
07-12-07, 18:57
Crazy jim wood-
Those are two really good reports. The day you spent at the beach sounds like alot of fun and a good way to see what these chicas are about. I will look for similar experiences.
I dont like the sound of those prices you were paying except for the girl you met in the hotel lobby but you cant judge it on just one guys experience. You have however been giving us a good idea of what to expect. Thank you.
The prices seem be getting standard... obviously you can barter but then you can miss the gems for the sake of $20-30....
American Warrior
07-12-07, 19:28
The prices seem be getting standard... obviously you can barter but then you can miss the gems for the sake of $20-30....Can anyone tell me the airport you fly into for Souza? And how is the pesos broke down in American prices. Sorry for dumb question but I am planning a trip and its seems like Punta Cana and Punta Playa are not the spots.
Which Hotel Pool may i ask?
Crazy Jim Wood
07-12-07, 19:57
There are some nice Haitians, but of course the hair is an add-on... I hate that shit. The chica comes out of the bathroom without her hair and I'm like, fuck, I picked up Sinead O'Connor's sista.
Which Hotel Pool may i ask?
New Garden.
Crazy Jim Wood
07-12-07, 20:03
I dont like the sound of those prices you were paying except for the girl you met in the hotel lobby...
I would not repeat with any of the cheaper girls, but I would repeat with the more expensive ones.
There does seem to be some correlation between price and quality.
CJW
I hate that shit. The chica comes out of the bathroom without her hair and I'm like, fuck, I picked up Sinead O'Connor's sista.
New Garden.
Oh, well, I have not encountered that. I guess it would be a turn off.
Usually the hair piece or braids are sewn in. I remember seeing a well-known chica at Blackbeards taking a running headfirst dive into the pool with long dreadlocks flying, but secure.
The prices seem be getting standard... obviously you can barter but then you can miss the gems for the sake of $20-30....
Id be willing to pay $1,500 for ST for 1 1/2 hrs or 2 . Im not a TLN person unless the vibe is amazing and that has only happened once in my mongering career. I dont trust them so I dont sleep....not worth it.
What do people think of my willingness to contribute$ ?
Ive read other posts saying differently. I guess Ill have to wait and see. Im fairly young speak spanish and am into latin music and Ive been to cabarete mongering twice before...all of this might be worthless but who knows.
Also Im coming down with little make up kits to give away and a decent sound system for the room.....have beer will travel.
Id be willing to pay $1,500 for ST for 1 1/2 hrs or 2 . Im not a TLN person unless the vibe is amazing and that has only happened once in my mongering career. I dont trust them so I dont sleep....not worth it.
What do people think of my willingness to contribute$ ?
Ive read other posts saying differently. I guess Ill have to wait and see. Im fairly young speak spanish and am into latin music and Ive been to cabarete mongering twice before...all of this might be worthless but who knows.
Also Im coming down with little make up kits to give away and a decent sound system for the room.....have beer will travel.
I guess you pay what you can afford and what you feel comfortable with. Prices of goods that you buy in the stores are universally higher than in the US, so $1500 pesos (US$45) does not go very far. Of course if a chica is pulling several guys a day, then she is making out like a bandit, but in most cases they are lucky if they get one or two a week. At the present time all the businesses in Sosua, not just the girls, are hurting and barely staying above water, or going under.
I don't think getting the makeup kits or hearing the sound system will make much difference to the girls, because their needs are at a much more fundamental level, like clothes for their kids, medicines for parents, a visit to the hairdresser or the dentist, and so on. Probably buying her a some food and a couple of beers is good for a discount.
I don't think you can really overpay. The fact is that they are so poor that you can never give them enough, so the deciding question tends to be what you want to pay.
When I was down there a few weeks ago I had a women agree to 500 pesos for short time, and she was terrific in the sack, so I gave her 1000 and then she figured she was practically married to me, so maybe I was just getting the discount introductory offer, but I sent her on her way all the same.
If you bargain them down too low, they will tend to agree, especially if they are desperate for money, but then they will want to renegotiate once they are sure you are committed, and the whole situation becomes unsatisfactory.
Most of them are not doing this for a business, they are doing it to survive. The working life of a prostitute is generally short and not too sweet. Most of these girls are not too bright, poorly educated, and live very much one day at a time. There is a fine line between getting a good deal and exploiting them.
Id be willing to pay $1,500 for ST for 1 1/2 hrs or 2 . Im not a TLN person unless the vibe is amazing and that has only happened once in my mongering career. I dont trust them so I dont sleep....not worth it.
What do people think of my willingness to contribute$ ?
Ive read other posts saying differently. I guess Ill have to wait and see. Im fairly young speak spanish and am into latin music and Ive been to cabarete mongering twice before...all of this might be worthless but who knows.
Also Im coming down with little make up kits to give away and a decent sound system for the room.....have beer will travel.
Let me add a bit to my previous post. You, like many of the guys who go down there, don't quite understand the system.
You say you would pay1500 pesos for 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
Now in the US or the UK escorts will charge an hourly rate regardless of sex, so three hours of dining and dancing and one hour of sex will cost you the same as four hours of sex. (Or so I am told on good authority, never having tried it myself.)
In the DR it is quite different. You can spend the whole evening with her dining, drinking, and dancing and not pay a thing except for her food and drinks. But when it comes to the sex, you are expected to make a donation, and she is generally willing to do her best to give you sexual satisfaction, but that does not run to having repeated sex for two hours unless she is hoping to make you into a novio (regular boyfriend, fiance).
So once you have your orgasm, as far as she is concerned she is off the clock and wants to be paid.
Of course this does not apply exactly in this way in every case, but if you are in the position of needing to discuss how much you will pay or ought to pay, then this is what you are dealing with.
Mr Enternational
07-12-07, 21:20
Im fairly young speak spanish and am into latin music and Ive been to cabarete mongering twice before...all of this might be worthless but who knows.
Also Im coming down with little make up kits to give away and a decent sound system for the room.....have beer will travel.
Art my man, I'd be willing to say that you are a prime candidate for a few freebies.
Tom Gueguen
07-12-07, 21:35
Arty,
I think that 800 to 1000 for ST is a fair deal if you have got a minimum of game and know how to play it.
I won't say that these girls have a cool life but I am not beginning to cry.
They live day to day as they are young and they enjoy every moment.
It has to be a game for the two players and not a customer relation.
In this case be prepared to pay 2 500 even for ST.
Great advice as always guys thanks. I am very aware that the DR is more expensive in general when it comes to basic need as are the rest of the islands. People who visit jamaica are surprised about how much things cost.
I was surprised to hear jim woods numbers then the posts confirming it because the highest Ive ever paid was $40 both times I was there. The last being around a year and a half ago. The second time I went the service wasnt as great as the first time. The first time I was getting $55 pesos to $1 us and then the following year it was 35 and then now.
I just came back this june from spending 25 days in buenos aires and paying $10 -20 US a pop for bbbjs daty dfk and even anal so excuse me for having sticker shock.
* Also Im on a expense budget of $120 US a day which is alot but not enough so that has to get me food,pfp,beer etc. The hotel will be paid with seperate monies.
I dont think my offering of $40 US is exploiting and I also dont expect grade A I prefer big assed mamasitas and average looking women because the sex tends to be better. The last time I picked up a middle aged mama with a thick body just walking through the barrios which was great.
Ive never stayed in sosua so that will be a whole new experience for me. I think I will be faced needing to play the game more than I did in cabarate.
Isnt the going rate in rio,brasil the same as $2500 and the DR should be cheaper yes/no?
Crazy Jim Wood
07-12-07, 22:47
They live day to day as they are young and they enjoy every moment.
I had a girl tell me that I was having a wonderful vacation but her "vacation" was not a vacation at all and she couldn't wait to get home to her baby. I asked why her vacation wasn't going so well, and she said because not all customers are the same: some are nice and some aren't. The girls are not enjoying every moment of this.
Im not a TLN person... I dont trust them so I dont sleep....not worth it.
I did TLN six or seven times and never had a problem. But then the girl's personality was big concern for me, not price. I think if you choose the girl well you won't have any trouble. Insisting on paying rock bottom price may impact you a little, since the girls who accept those rates may be a little desparate.
I guess you pay what you can afford and what you feel comfortable with. Prices of goods that you buy in the stores are universally higher than in the US, so $1500 pesos (US$45) does not go very far. Of course if a chica is pulling several guys a day, then she is making out like a bandit, but in most cases they are lucky if they get one or two a week. At the present time all the businesses in Sosua, not just the girls, are hurting and barely staying above water, or going under.
I don't think getting the makeup kits or hearing the sound system will make much difference to the girls, because their needs are at a much more fundamental level, like clothes for their kids, medicines for parents, a visit to the hairdresser or the dentist, and so on. Probably buying her a some food and a couple of beers is good for a discount.
I don't think you can really overpay. The fact is that they are so poor that you can never give them enough, so the deciding question tends to be what you want to pay.
When I was down there a few weeks ago I had a women agree to 500 pesos for short time, and she was terrific in the sack, so I gave her 1000 and then she figured she was practically married to me, so maybe I was just getting the discount introductory offer, but I sent her on her way all the same.
If you bargain them down too low, they will tend to agree, especially if they are desperate for money, but then they will want to renegotiate once they are sure you are committed, and the whole situation becomes unsatisfactory.
Most of them are not doing this for a business, they are doing it to survive. The working life of a prostitute is generally short and not too sweet. Most of these girls are not too bright, poorly educated, and live very much one day at a time. There is a fine line between getting a good deal and exploiting them.This is one of the best reports I have ever read. I would agree that I tend of forget that most women are doing what they do for survival. That is not to say that there are hardcore women that should be paid an amount equal to their attitude. Being from Colombia, most latin women like us for our money and the way we treat them. However, keep in mind that if your to gentle, a hardcore will crush your nuts and your heart. Having said, you get what you pay for.
Crazy Jim Wood
07-12-07, 22:56
Im on a expense budget of $120 US a day which is alot but not enough so that has to get me food,pfp,beer etc... Isnt the going rate in rio,brasil the same as $2500 and the DR should be cheaper yes/no?
Is the Rio rate really important in your decision making process in the DR? Why is beating the Rio rate even an item for discussion?
If you like big-assed women with average looks you may well get by at a lower rate than I did, since I was a little selective. Hell, it seemed like everyone one in Sosua fit that bill. It is only if your interests diverge from that that you need to look a little harder.
$120 is almost 4,000 pesos, that's enough for two TLN every night! You'll do fine. And I couldn't walk in a bar in Sosua without but someone was buying me a drink, so getting enough beer in my system was no problem. For reference, the Shark bar beer is 85 and hamburger is 120 or so, can't remember exactly, but a beer and hamburger/pizza, etc should only set you back 300 pesos.
But think about your time: if you have to throw a chica out of your room or have an argument with a chica and get all pissed off, you're pretty much done for that night, right? So, spend another 500 pesos/$15 and get a girl who you know will work out.
Plus, TLN means one sex at night and one in the morning, plus breakfast together (you pay). Now, where are you going to find your morning blowjob if you didn't take her home with you the night before?
You really need to check out Passions, there were lots of girls there with the big asses and cute faces that would please you. You try a few out with the 1,000 pesos handjob on site and make an appointment for the evening.
Even after bar fine (500) and TLN (2000) you still have a budget of 1,500 per day which is plenty for three meals and the odd motoconcho ride. Maybe some days you slum a little and get something at the disco, car wash, etc. But I found that it was good to have something sure waiting at Passion, then check out the disco scene until midnight, and, if I haven't found exactly what I want at the disco, pick up the proven good TLN at Passions.
Sexo twice a day (night and morning TLN) was pretty much all I could handle (damn, the chicas wore me out) and I did not do much other than eat (about 300 pesos a meal or less), drink, swim, and fuck, so my budget was about the same as yours.
Your time has value, man! Don't spend a morning alone and pissed off because something didn't work out with a cheap girl. My only regrets this trip were the mornings I (1) didn't have a girl to eat breakfast with or (2) woke up and realized that the girl was too ugly to be seen with in morning light. I never woke up and thought, "Damn, I paid 500 pesos too much last night."
The one other place I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH is do not be cheap when eating! Eat only at good restaurants like Shark Bar, Rockys, etc. You do not want to eat bad food and be put out of commission for two days pissing out of your ass.
Great advice as always guys thanks. I am very aware that the DR is more expensive in general when it comes to basic need as are the rest of the islands. People who visit jamaica are surprised about how much things cost.
I was surprised to hear jim woods numbers then the posts confirming it because the highest Ive ever paid was $40 both times I was there. The last being around a year and a half ago. The second time I went the service wasnt as great as the first time. The first time I was getting $55 pesos to $1 us and then the following year it was 35 and then now.
I just came back this june from spending 25 days in buenos aires and paying $10 -20 US a pop for bbbjs daty dfk and even anal so excuse me for having sticker shock.
* Also Im on a expense budget of $120 US a day which is alot but not enough so that has to get me food,pfp,beer etc. The hotel will be paid with seperate monies.
I dont think my offering of $40 US is exploiting and I also dont expect grade A I prefer big assed mamasitas and average looking women because the sex tends to be better. The last time I picked up a middle aged mama with a thick body just walking through the barrios which was great.
Ive never stayed in sosua so that will be a whole new experience for me. I think I will be faced needing to play the game more than I did in cabarate.
Isnt the going rate in rio,brasil the same as $2500 and the DR should be cheaper yes/no?
I am inclined to agree with your last point. You can either be a bit of a butterfly collector and pick out the cutest and sweetest specimens to pin in your album, or you can go for the lustiest, horniest ones who will provide a great sweaty fuck and the often the best bang for your buck. Both avenues have their attractions, and I have been down both of them many times. On my last trip one evening I had an excellent 43-year old for supper, then two pristinely perfect eighteen-year -olds for dessert and I'm not sure which I enjoyed the most.
Nothing wrong with offering $40, but there is a huge difference between making a friendly offer which is immediately accepted and getting into a prolonged haggling session that will almost certainly end with one or the other feeling cheated. Ideally both parties to the contract should come away feeling that they got a good deal.
Would someone like to be invited for a free beer tuesday afternoon when I arrive ? Id like to know whats going on.
Thanks
Would someone like to be invited for a free beer tuesday afternoon when I arrive ? Id like to know whats going on.
ThanksI'll be there Wednessday then you can update me.
An excellent source of information is Herman, the owner of Siempre Sol #153 on the beach. He is most willing to share info about the ladies and other goings on. You can generally find a group of guys having a beer or eating lunch there any afternoon except Monday when he's closed. The guys are happy to share stories and info also. If you're on the AA flight, you can be on the beach by 4:30 most likely.
I should arrive at 1pm but as always Im leaving when there are thunderstorms expected. I take off at 9am so I should be ok.
If anyone wants to know in the future when it will storm just ask me for my travel plans.
Freetime - See you there.
I have only had good experiences with ahitian women most friendly. If you guys have and pictures or experiences to share about hatian women please do.
I will be in Sousa this weekend. Is there anything going on I should not miss. Also, what do most of you guys do when you first get off the plane? Just a question for discussion.
I will be in Sousa this weekend. Is there anything going on I should not miss. Also, what do most of you guys do when you first get off the plane? Just a question for discussion.
1. Pay Visitor tax ($10)
2. Passport control
3. Customs.
4. Change money at bank at airport. Get plenty of 50 peso bills and change a few hundred dollars so as to pay for hotel and have cash to spare.
5. Taxi to Sosua.
6. Check in to hotel.
7. Unpack, take shower.
8. Get some pussy.
Sunset Strip
07-17-07, 20:30
1. Pay Visitor tax ($10)
2. Passport control
3. Customs.
4. Change money at bank at airport. Get plenty of 50 peso bills and change a few hundred dollars so as to pay for hotel and have cash to spare.
5. Taxi to Sosua.
6. Check in to hotel.
7. Unpack, take shower.
8. Get some pussy.
Well, I guess that about sums it up! Straight and to the point.
Crazy Saint
07-17-07, 21:37
I'm making my first visit to the DR in October and would like some recommendations for a first timer. I am in my mid 30s but am told I still look like I am in my late 20s. I do know much Spanish, but am working on it, and will only be in town for 3 days/ 2 nights. Some of you on the Puerto Plata forum have already suggested staying in Sousa to me, and I would like a little more info on the area.
1) Choice of hotel: New Garden, Hotel Don Andres, or other?
2) Best clubs/bars to go to for finding companions?
3) Best places for dining and eating?
4) What is the norm I should pay for ST and TLN so that I can negotiate and not overpay?
I've enjoyed reading your posts and have learned much from them, so any other suggestions you can give me to help me enjoy my trip even more would be great. Keep up the great posts.
Extra-curricular activities:
1. Much time with two of most beautiful chicas of my life.
2. All time best body.
3. One of best bbbj artists ever.
4. Two chicas with 4'' tongues, one with 5''!
5. Fantastic pool fucking.
6. Much time with the Haitian Hottie.
7. The Dimpled Dominican, a great new discovery on the last night.
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Will I return? Only if I stay in Sosua and with no rental car, no driving.
Crazy Saint
07-18-07, 14:32
I'm making my first visit to the DR in October and would like some recommendations for a first timer. I am in my mid 30s but am told I still look like I am in my late 20s. I don't know much Spanish, but am working on it, and will only be in town for 3 days/ 2 nights. Some of you on the Puerto Plata forum have already suggested staying in Sousa to me, and I would like a little more info on the area.
1) Choice of hotel: New Garden, Hotel Don Andres, or other?
2) Best clubs/bars to go to for finding companions?
3) Best places for dining and eating?
4) What is the norm I should pay for ST and TLN so that I can negotiate and not overpay?
I've enjoyed reading your posts and have learned much from them, so any other suggestions you can give me to help me enjoy my trip even more would be great. Keep up the great posts.Just fixing an error to my earlier posting.
I arrived last night and even with very little sleep I managed to let go of a load with a girl I met in the lobby of hotel new garden. She was great. I started with a foot massage then onto DFK and some serious DATY with BBBJ. She stayed for awhile never rushed me so I paid her $50 US well worth it to me and Im a cheapskate.
The weather is good hotel new garden is a wise choice. The manager picked me up at the airport no problem.
Im working the semi pro street/beach scene. Id rather have sex during the day and extend the experience for only the price of a few beers.
I think it would be wise to try a few then stay with one. I just get the feeling it would be a more rewarding experience.
All in all the weather is good I found cheap food and have a local cell phone so Im good to go. I just got here so stay tuned.
I met herman from siempre sol ...nice guy good crowd but I thought the girls hanging out there were serious pros and they spoke english which is a bad sign.
By the way however posted awhile ago to have beers and music in your room was dead on. I have a whole deal going on in my room . Its a great way to break the ice. Also the make up kits work like a charm.
Observations for a first time visitor to Sousa
I've just completed my second trip in six months to the DR...Sousa in particular. It was a great adventure with ups and downs. Bottom line, a great time. This second trip reconfirmed some observations I made on my first trip. I'm going to toss some of these on the table for discussion and I'm sure the seasoned veterans can add more observations and suggestions on how to handle the bigger issues. Some of these are minor points and some can affect the outcome of your evening. These observations are by no means specific to Sousa.
First: No matter how clearly you negotiate with a chica for short or long time, be prepared for her to try and change the deal midstream. Example: You negotiate 1000 pesos short time at your place. As she peals off her shirt and you start to admire her breasts she casually mentions 1500 pesos. This problem can be made worse by the language barrier, so if you don't catch her comment immediately, you're in a more difficult position. I'll leave it to others to suggest possible courses of action. However, this WILL happen repeatedly on a multiday trip.
Second: Any personal items left in the bathroom are subject to use by the chica. Example: If you have a hair brush on the counter, she will use it. She may or may not ask. She'll probably leave it resembling an oily rats nest. Same with your toothbrush, deoderant, and lotion of any kind. No big deal...just know it will happen.
Three: You'll probably run into her on the street or beach again, at which time she will say she's hungry and needs money to eat. She may dress well, be driving her own motoconcho, be obviously prospering with customers, yet ask for food money. After this happens more than once, you realize it's standard procedure. How you handle it, of course, is up to you.
Fourth: After your session with the chica, you will be asked for "motochoncho" money in addition to the fee for services. Be familar with standard fees so you can decide if she's being reasonable. Most of these moto drivers don't have much change, so it's not realistic to expect her to hand him a 500 peoso note from her service fee and get change. Keep 20 to 40 pesos in the ashtray for such times. 20 to 40 will usually cover it. If she asks for 100 or 200 pesos to Charmico, know she's taking advantage of you.
Fifth: If she offers to take you to POP to sightsee on the Malecon, be prepared to have her turn it into a shopping trip for her...at your expense. Example: You've had a great TLN with the sweet girl and she asks you (as you recover from the morning sex) if you'll help her shop for shoes in POP. This is code for "buy me something". You're in an emotionally disadvantaged position and this is part of her "routine". Just know that this will likely occur and think about how you'll handle it.
Sixth: Most chicas who have serviced you once will try to take you again on following days. They may make themselves a pest at the disco or beach...follow you around...wrap their arms around you...stare you down as you try to converse with other ladies...etc. This can be either humerous or irritating, depending on your personality.
Seventh: Likewise if you've never been in an agressive environment, such as Classicos Disco in Sousa, you may not be prepared to be followed around the floor like fresh meat (money) for the hungary. You will be pulled at, stroked, fondled :). This is just an observation, not necessarily a problem. However, it does get tiresome when the ugly ones get overly persistent.
Eighth: The girls always have financial problems! They ask for money to visit their mother in the hospital (not very original); they need money for the lady who watches their children; they need to pay off the night watchman who let them into your hotel without ID...etc. It's the timing of these requests that separate the cunning chicas from the not so clever.
Nineth: If you take a chica for TLN and she will not turn off her phone, she's probably not planning on staying the night. There's always an urgent call requiring her to leave. Example again: mothers in the hospital, my friend needs my help, my child is sick, etc.
OK you Sousa veterans. Feel free to add to the list or suggest ways to deal with the issues.
Escort King
07-22-07, 04:51
Observations for a first time visitor to Sousa
I've just completed my second trip in six months to the DR...Sousa in particular. It was a great adventure with ups and downs. Bottom line, a great time. This second trip reconfirmed some observations I made on my first trip. I'm going to toss some of these on the table for discussion and I'm sure the seasoned veterans can add more observations and suggestions on how to handle the bigger issues. Some of these are minor points and some can affect the outcome of your evening. These observations are by no means specific to Sousa.
First: No matter how clearly you negotiate with a chica for short or long time, be prepared for her to try and change the deal midstream. Example: You negotiate 1000 pesos short time at your place. As she peals off her shirt and you start to admire her breasts she casually mentions 1500 pesos. This problem can be made worse by the language barrier, so if you don't catch her comment immediately, you're in a more difficult position. I'll leave it to others to suggest possible courses of action. However, this WILL happen repeatedly on a multiday trip.
Second: Any personal items left in the bathroom are subject to use by the chica. Example: If you have a hair brush on the counter, she will use it. She may or may not ask. She'll probably leave it resembling an oily rats nest. Same with your toothbrush, deoderant, and lotion of any kind. No big deal...just know it will happen.
Three: You'll probably run into her on the street or beach again, at which time she will say she's hungry and needs money to eat. She may dress well, be driving her own motoconcho, be obviously prospering with customers, yet ask for food money. After this happens more than once, you realize it's standard procedure. How you handle it, of course, is up to you.
Fourth: After your session with the chica, you will be asked for "motochoncho" money in addition to the fee for services. Be familar with standard fees so you can decide if she's being reasonable. Most of these moto drivers don't have much change, so it's not realistic to expect her to hand him a 500 peoso note from her service fee and get change. Keep 20 to 40 pesos in the ashtray for such times. 20 to 40 will usually cover it. If she asks for 100 or 200 pesos to Charmico, know she's taking advantage of you.
Fifth: If she offers to take you to POP to sightsee on the Malecon, be prepared to have her turn it into a shopping trip for her...at your expense. Example: You've had a great TLN with the sweet girl and she asks you (as you recover from the morning sex) if you'll help her shop for shoes in POP. This is code for "buy me something". You're in an emotionally disadvantaged position and this is part of her "routine". Just know that this will likely occur and think about how you'll handle it.
Sixth: Most chicas who have serviced you once will try to take you again on following days. They may make themselves a pest at the disco or beach...follow you around...wrap their arms around you...stare you down as you try to converse with other ladies...etc. This can be either humerous or irritating, depending on your personality.
Seventh: Likewise if you've never been in an agressive environment, such as Classicos Disco in Sousa, you may not be prepared to be followed around the floor like fresh meat (money) for the hungary. You will be pulled at, stroked, fondled :). This is just an observation, not necessarily a problem. However, it does get tiresome when the ugly ones get overly persistent.
Eighth: The girls always have financial problems! They ask for money to visit their mother in the hospital (not very original); they need money for the lady who watches their children; they need to pay off the night watchman who let them into your hotel without ID...etc. It's the timing of these requests that separate the cunning chicas from the not so clever.
Nineth: If you take a chica for TLN and she will not turn off her phone, she's probably not planning on staying the night. There's always an urgent call requiring her to leave. Example again: mothers in the hospital, my friend needs my help, my child is sick, etc.
OK you Sousa veterans. Feel free to add to the list or suggest ways to deal with the issues.You have got a good grasp of it. Have fun and know shit happens. But it comes with a BJ
Mr Enternational
07-22-07, 05:18
Observations for a first time visitor to Sousa
Nineth: If you take a chica for TLN and she will not turn off her phone, she's probably not planning on staying the night. There's always an urgent call requiring her to leave. Example again: mothers in the hospital, my friend needs my help, my child is sick, etc.
OK you Sousa veterans. Feel free to add to the list or suggest ways to deal with the issues.
This is one that a monger will encounter all around the world. That is why we NEVER PAY FIRST. A simple and quick cure for it is to only give a portion of the agreed upon payment. For instance, once when I was in Bangkok I contracted to rent for an hour at 700 baht or US$21. After 20 minutes of nonstop fucking she said that it was too much and she was ready to go. She said the hour was supposed to include watching TV, cuddling, and other things as well. I disagreed and said that I entered a contract for an hour's worth of fucking. But anyway okay. I am not one to try to keep someone who does not want to stay. I told her that since she was only able to work 1/3 of the agreed upon time, then she would only be entitled to receive 1/3 of the agreed upon salary. She was happy to leave with the US$7.
For a TLN, closing the deal has to consist of 1) an agreed upon amount & 2) an agreed upon departure time. I usually opt for 9 or 10 am, depending on what the present time is. If she hops up at 6, 7, or 8 thinking she is ready to leave then she is allowed to do so, for a penalty (unless I am just tired of her or would rather be alone). Guys you must remember to hit them where it hurts, the same place they are trying to hit you, in the pocket.
DR Monger II
07-22-07, 19:12
Xdentx, one of the girls I tried a TLN with left early and said that her mother was in the hospital. I was happy to let her go with half the amount 1000k. Her phone did constantly ring. Do the girls plan these things? Have someone call them so they can leave earlier? I was upset about it, but looking back at it. She was a little hot little number I got dfk, bbbj and sex for 1000k plus salida.
Yes, the girls plan this phone call excuse in advance. Where it becomes a true problem is when the girl wants her complete TLN fee for a one time shot. I'm both amused and a little annoyed by those guys who proudly proclaim they can control the situation: throw the girl out of the room, throw her stuff into the pool, threaten her with bodily harm. You don't know what the girl is really capable of if things get nasty. You don't usually know the police situation and you're not usually in your own country. You usually can not count on security to resolve YOUR problem. I have a great story to share in another post about I fellow I met last week and how he handled this problem...and the most unfortunate result. Stay tuned.
She is 23, from Santo Domingo, and wears a powder blue NY Yankees baseball hat. She said she was new to Sosua and stayed in a cheap hotel, deep into Charamicos. I need to return a valuable to her. She knows my name as --Benito
Hamster101
07-23-07, 00:37
I had the most fun, the best sexual experince of my life in Costambar with a high end call girl from Puerto Plata. We ate at some cracker box on the beach around sun down, soon after that we were walking down the beach, then the clothes came off, then we started fucking in public, I guess about 2 hours worth as many people watched and a few had positive comments. I will never forget Costambar, the best Dominican Chicken I have ever had, the food was good too. There is a couple fun girls @ La Passion in Sosua, Carmin & Suhan, eat your wheaties, these girls are high energy non stop fun and they are not watching the clock. I just got back from a month in Sosua 6/1/07 - 7/2/07, I hooked up with those two, 4 separate times, each time was better than the last. I have a list of phone numbers that could bring big bucks on ebay, if anyone is heading to the DR for the first time, I will share a few good numbers.
Mr Enternational
07-23-07, 04:05
Xdentx, one of the girls I tried a TLN with left early and said that her mother was in the hospital. I was happy to let her go with half the amount 1000k. Her phone did constantly ring. Do the girls plan these things? Have someone call them so they can leave earlier?
DR what are the chances of a true emergency coming up when it's your turn? That is an old player's trick. I thought that everyone had done that one many times before. I know I have. If I know I am going to be with a chick and am going to want to get away later then I just arrange with a friend to call me at a certain time. Then I say that I have to go pick my daughter up or my friend needs help with his car or some bullshit like that. If I have changed my mind and I would rather stay with the chick then I just don't say anything. It's better to have an excuse and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Dear fellows,
I've always stayed in Las Canas, yet they don't have any available 2 bedrooms (I will visit with my bets buddy) for the second half of Sept. For a 1 bedroom without AC they're asking $ 40 per night.
Has anyone had any experience with The Tradewinds? Can anyone recommend any other lodgings with similar comfort/prices as Las Canas?
Thank You All!
Escort King
07-25-07, 05:59
Dear fellows,
I've always stayed in Las Canas, yet they don't have any available 2 bedrooms (I will visit with my bets buddy) for the second half of Sept. For a 1 bedroom without AC they're asking $ 40 per night.
Has anyone had any experience with The Tradewinds? Can anyone recommend any other lodgings with similar comfort/prices as Las Canas?
Thank You All!I have had friends stay there and hung out there. Nice area and handy enough.
Dear fellows,
I've always stayed in Las Canas, yet they don't have any available 2 bedrooms (I will visit with my bets buddy) for the second half of Sept. For a 1 bedroom without AC they're asking $ 40 per night.
Has anyone had any experience with The Tradewinds? Can anyone recommend any other lodgings with similar comfort/prices as Las Canas?
Thank You All!
Never stayed at Las Canas, but the Tradewinds is comfortable. i have steyed there a coupled times. The Palms just past the Tradewinds is nice too. I have also stayed there. You could try Casa Linda past Las canas as well/
Im not leaving until tuesday but I wanted to get this off my chest so I can stop thinking about it.
This is my third trip to the DR. Ive stayed twice before in cabarete while visiting sosua in the day then staying in cabarete at night. Ive always enjoyed that set up since cabarete has more nature to enjoy and I can get to sosua by public taxi for $30 pesos. Also I felt I had an advantage being one of the few mongers in cabarete compared to one of the crowd in sosua. I went back to cabarte and its dead.
Im 37 years old pretty experienced in south america. I know spanish the music and I have a few tatoos. I say this so people will get a general idea of who I am because I feel it does somewhat effect your experience here.
Im staying at the new garden hotel which has been very comfortable for me. Everything is in order such as hot water AC etc. The staff is very friendly and there are sometimes girls sitting around the pool waiting for a client. My best experience so far has been with one of those girls on my first day.
It is located very close to the bars and beach on a side street. The noise isnt bad but you can still hear some motoconchos. I travel with earplugs and a sound machine. I suggest you bring ear plugs if you are a light sleeper.
The only complaint I have about new garden is when I paid the bill with my credit card for some reason I was charged $45 a night but it was figured out at the peso rate of 34 when 32 to the dollar is the going rate. I lost $76 in the transaction and no charge or fee to use my credit card was ever discussed. I didnt say anything since it was my first day but it didnt sit well with me. Im not going to make a stink about $76 on a two week bill so I let it rest.
Ive been here like 9 days and have had sex 5 times and for those who know my reports that is nothing. Im not crazy about what Im seeing nor am I into the attitudes of the girls. Also Ive come across alot of birth defects and scars which is really turning me off. I was with one girl who had an anus that dangled from her ass and another who had very bad spotty discoloration on her snatch. You really need to investigate what your getting before bringing her back to your room. I picked up a girl from cabarete looking for work and had a decent session with her for $1000 pesos. The girls Ive talked to who are associated with any clubs turn out to be lame pros who dont know how to treat guys. I think they have been spoiled too much and want it too easy. I like hunting in the day but its the same few girls and they look rather skanky. Night time is when they all come out but you need to feel them out since many are really hardened pros. Most of the time they will try to hit and run to pick up another client. I was paying $50 for a few days but my price has gone way down . The service just isnt worth it and compared to south america I could be getting quality for $15. I just spent the month of june in buenos aires. This couldnt compare in a million years.
The weather has been great and I am having fun and whenever my gut tells me its cool I go for it. The guys who do really well here are guys into black women and like to hang out in night clubs. These guys go to the disco everynight and do that club thing and sometimes they establish realationships with these girls and get it free. The music is awful. It sounds like tweak music made by toy instruments with a latin rap on top of it. Its a shame nobody has thought of having a live group to play merengue. There are many musicans on the beach who would do it for nothing. Bottom line the night life is pretty boring with very little class or romance. Again south america wins in that department.
The food situation isnt that great either. All I can say is thank god for rockys. It a great place to eat and just hang out.
I went around looking for long term apartments so I thought I would share some info. New garden hotel is great for a week but for the price of two weeks you can get an apartment for a month www.clubresidencial.com,clubresidencial@yahoo.com is a nice german owned apartment complex with two swimming pools and great looking apartments for around $646 a month then you have to pay an electric bill according to a meter. They allow girls but they have a rule of one girl per 24 hours because there are alot of families. Its the place for an older monger or someone that isnt too hardcore into it. The other find is called guest house koch with little cabanas spread out along a garden with an ocean view for $443 or so a month. The rooms are very basic but great view and girls are allowed at your own risk. You will have to enter and exit through the family home. Call felix at 809-571-2284 also there is no safe in the room. It is situated right next door to a condo complex. You will be sitting on your grey cement balcony being looked at by condo snobs right next door.
I dont like the idea of the apartments across the main highway. I wont say the names because it isnt polite. I dont like them because you have to cross a busy road all the time and I havent heard of one with a safe in the room. I was also told security is pretty laxed and if you get a trouble chica there may not be immediate help.
I hope this helps. Thank you to those that have helped me int the past.
Last item is herman at siempre sol on the beach has been stellar. He is a really cool guy and he gets people together so support his place. Its the place to be.
Im not leaving until tuesday but I wanted to get this off my chest so I can stop thinking about it.
This is my third trip to the DR. Ive stayed twice before in cabarete while cool guy and he gets people together so support his place. Its the place to be.
The guys who do really well here are guys into black women...
Given the geographical location and history of the DR this is not totally surprising.
Interesting report. I just returned from a week in Sosua and had a couple of days camping in the campo too, which was pretty darn interesting, but hardly saw a ***** the whole week, because I was with my novia who is worth a truckload of *****s.
I can see that a prolapsed rectum would be a bit offputting, a lot offputting, I should say, but a spot of vitiligo is nothing to worry about.
Although I was not hunting for *****s on this trip, everywhere I went there were gorgeous women walking around being gorgeous, friendly, flirtatious and a lot of fun. I have not noticed that many birth defects, though there is a girl with a deformed hip in Sosua, and I believe there used to be a quite popular one-legged ***** in Boca Chica who had lost a leg in a motoconcho accident.
But probably the DR is not for everyone, and two weeks IS an awfully long time to stay at one place. Hell, you could explore the whole of the DR in that time, and certainly take a trip out to the Samana Peninsula, spend a night or two in the capital, go up the Teleferic, and so on.
On this trip I hired an SUV AND a driver for $60 per day each and had only the gasoline to pay for after that.
Here is an amusing anecdote that has not much to do with sex, but tells you a bit about the relationship between the sexes in the DR.
I was at my dentist's in Puerto Plata getting some major work done. Ahead of me was a little girl of about 6 who was raising hell in the dentist's chair and making it impossible to give her anesthetic injections so that a crooked front incisor could be pulled. The female dentist, her mother, and auntie were quite unable to get her cooperation. so the dentist called for me to be sent in to play the part of the bogeyman, telling the child that if she did not cooperate the big white doctor would be dealing with her. So I went in and sat down and held her hand and told her to be tranquila and keep her boca abierta. Immediately all resistance stopped, the injections were given, the tooth was pulled, and the whole job was over in 2-3 minutes. Getting up from the chair, the young lady smiled at me flirtatiously, waved goodbye, and cheerfully marched out.
Member #2128
07-27-07, 12:49
The only complaint I have about new garden is when I paid the bill with my credit card for some reason I was charged $45 a night but it was figured out at the peso rate of 34 when 32 to the dollar is the going rate. I lost $76 in the transaction and no charge or fee to use my credit card was ever discussed. I didnt say anything since it was my first day but it didnt sit well with me. Im not going to make a stink about $76 on a two week bill so I let it rest.
The reason you were charged 34 instead of 32 is because that's the price it will cost them to BUY THE $45 DOLLARS they are charging you. When you have dollars from home and want to sell them for pesos...the price you would get is 32. The difference, and it exists in all currency exchange, is what the money changer/banks/investor makes.
Think what would happen if you had an account full of dollars in the DR and the unsteady, fluctuating peso got devalued to 50/dollar. You'd have 18 pesos more/each dollar. Enough dollars collected from a hotel business like the New Garden or other tourist hotels and you'd be a rich Dominican. Generally, the dollar is more stable than the local currency...that's why they want them more than pesos.
The whole thing would be a lot simpler if they charged in pesos. Period! However, I'm sure that many Americans would be completely confused about the cost if it weren't stated in American dollars. So, by stating the cost in dollars, it allows them to run this kind of soft scam in order to accumulate dollars rather than pesos....invest the dollars and play the currency exchange market in the DR....or even "export" the dollars to banks in other countries like Germany or Italy...where a lot of DR hotel owners may be based.
You didn't pay more...or less...it's just the way business is done.
Also, thanks for your "reality check" on the hardcore, less than ethical putas, who are more than likely ready to scam you than pleasure you. I agree that it can be all that. On the other hand, like our mate HELPMANN (see BC boards) would say, it's all about "the hunt". Searching for "gazelles" and learning how to avoid being eaten by "the tigresses" while hunting for and hopefully finding your sweet gazelle.
Finally, I did stay at the German run CLUB RESIDENTIAL for a number of weeks and found it perfect. Small apt-like set up with kitchen and separate living room. Friendly guards always at the locked gate and sitting around at the rear wall. I always felt protected and safe in my room. Of course, also very chica friendly---with cedula. And I often brought more than 1 chica/day to my room with no problem. In fact, usually it was one from the beach/street during the day and another at night from a club. Show the cedula and I was in. Without one, no deal. I never tried to show money and bribe. I respected their rule...and them for making it. I left it at that.
Thanks again for straight up report.
#2128
Member #2128
07-28-07, 13:49
Only for those who are interested in occasional non-chica info....if not, please just scroll on by.
I forgot yesterday, but the name for the difference between the price for selling the dollars to get pesos at the airport/bank and the price for buying them with pesos to pay for a hotel room quoted in dollars is called "the spread". Yes, for real---the spread. Playing the spread is what the hotel owners are doing when they quote prices in dollars, receive an American credit card payment in pesos and then charge enough pesos to buy the dollars.
MINI-RANT: The country's economy is in pesos! The charge should be in pesos!
I also forgot to mention that the easiest way to avoid the hassle is to bring actual green dollars and then pay the hotel bill in American cash. Then, $45 dollars is still just $45 dollars. No transaction fee.
And finally, I forgot to mention that THE CLUB RESIDENTIAL is costly... something like $54 dollars/day and if you pay with a credit card it's ANOTHER 4% ADDED ON!!! SAFE is another $1.50 USD/day.
However, if you can afford it, it's worth it....if you want comfort, quiet, reliable AC and hot water and a generator that kicks in when the power goes out. Why is it that no one mention that the electric power goes out a few times each evening in Sosua for short stretches and you are plunged into darkeness? It does, you know.
Cheers,
#2128 ADDENDUM
DR Monger II
07-28-07, 20:30
Usually most hotels will give you a discount if you pay in cash.
It is well known that the power goes down in sosua. I was walking in Pedro Clisante and the power went down. It was pretty scary for a few moments.
One night when I was at Classicos they had power problems too.
Mr Enternational
07-30-07, 10:21
However, if you can afford it, it's worth it....if you want comfort, quiet, reliable AC and hot water and a generator that kicks in when the power goes out. Why is it that no one mention that the electric power goes out a few times each evening in Sosua for short stretches and you are plunged into darkeness? It does, you know.
#2128 ADDENDUM
It has never happened to me although a friend just mentioned to me yesterday that it happened to him while staying at the Plaza Europa this past week. He said that he heard a loud pop and the lights were out for a while.
first, i'the like to thank everyone on this board for the info before i went on my first trip to dr. i was well prepared for the "putas". especially helpmann (see the "gazelle" and "tigre" report.
i was somewhat unsure about my first trip to dr. i've taken spanish classes in college. but even then i was average speaking the langauge. i'm pretty laid back type of guy. somewhat shy, but i took this trip solo.
i stayed in tradewinds condos thru marco (rocky). it's great deal ($255/week) lots of space, pool, and 24 hour security.
my first two days in sosua were fantastic. i spent my entire day walking the town and the beach picking up chicks and taking them back to the condo. i can't stress enough how important it is to venture out in sosua. about 95% of the women there are available to you. enjoy. i also can't stress enough the "gazelle" analogy. gazelles will rarely approach you! its not their nature! newbies, if you see a lady you like make eye contact, smile, try to speak their langauge. its easy.
my first few experiences were fantastic. my first gazelle was this beautiful haitian chic 21 years old with jessica alba belly and little bubble butt. my approach was a little different. when we first met we made usual small talk como se llamo. blah blah. i asked her if she wanted to come back to my place and talk and share prez. cool. we went back and talked for bout 20 minutes. i mentioned nothing of pesos or fucky fucky sucky sucky. she tried to transition the conversation to money by telling me her sobb story of no money. blah blah. eventually she sat on my lap and it was on. we kissed and fondled and midway thru she mentioned she was bleeding. i said no problem. we kept goin (total gfe). finally she started grabbing at my wee wee so i pulled it out and she gave me a decent bbbjcim. afterwards we talked for bout ten more minutes and she asked me to go to playa (beach) with her. i told her i was tired. i gave her 300 pesos and said i'the call her later. we all must remember to slow down with chicas. we are in control. and also never mention money to a gazelle. play dumb! they believe we're stupid anyways! the only problem with gazelles is that they are very clingy. i had 4 tln (3 gazelles and one tigre). all 3 gazelles stayed past noon, but the tigre woke me up when she left. my first three days in sosua, i payed max 500 pesos st and un mill max for tln. my fourth day i made two huge mistakes. i met this nice sexy chic with arguably the best rack i've seen in dr at super super (good place to meet honeys, but also the tigre's hangout). we exchanged cellphone #'s (i picked up orange dr cell). i called her and she came out to tradewinds. we talked for bout five minutes. then she mentioned i she wanted me take a shower and come back out. at this point i'm thinking a)this ***** is trying to rob me or be) she's feeling me. neither! i told her to wash my back and come in too. we're in shower and she's gorgeous. a little thicker than i usual like them, but tremendous sex appeal. she goes down on her knees and starts to blow me. at this point i'm turned on big time. there's only one problem, she seems to be in rush. i tell her to slow down, but she keeps going even faster. after about ten minutes of this very bad bbbj, i pull my dick away and jack it off on her tongue. we then get out of the shower and she starts to put her clothes on. i respond un momento. she says she has to go and demands un mill. i respond "***** you crazy". she doesn't understand. i say "loco". i give her a 500 peso and she flips. so i just gave her the extra 500 peso and she gives me this devilish grin and splits. remember my strategy of not mentioning money works like a charm with gazelle, but with tigres it's big problems. that same day i'm sitting in condo relaxing and i get knock at door. it's the security guard and he tells me a chica outside for me. i peek around the corner to see this overweight and feo, but she did have nice tits. i'm thinking about titting fucking so i let her in. i don't waste anytime talking so i tell her to drop to her knees and take shirt off. i'm titting fucking this chick while she's sucking tip. it was cool, then i bust. before i can pull my pants up she's asking for un mill. i give her 300 pesos and she flips and starts to get aggressive. i tell her to leave. and she gets irrate. she goes into the kitchen and grabs my ipod. look i'm laid back, but i'm also 6-3 275lbs black male. so i grab her arm and escort her out of my place. she then says she's calling the police on me. i go back inside and get myself together then leave. when i go outside she's still there, but i bounce. i'm chilling at some spot on strip getting some grub and prez when cops roll up on me. i explain to them the story. and they say cool, but before they leave they ask for money. i respond that i don't have any with me and they leave. wow! what an experience! this is my fourth day and i've been with close ten chicks with 2 bad experiences.
the first night i crashed earlier. and 2nd and 3rd night i was gambling at the playa chiquita casino (chicas at the casino are average at best). anyways, i decide to go to classicos my fourth night. great move! newbies, classicos is a very aggressive environment, and remember the girls don't really like you. they like our pesos! anyways, i'm having a ball joking and talking with the chicas. i was drinking prez, and then it hit me! i'm in a room with about fifty beautiful chicas and i can choose to be with any one/two/three for the night. after a few conversations the starting price was dos mil. that's $66 american dollars. you can't take a girl on date in us for 60 bucks. anyways, i'm drinking and talking, and then she walks in. this chica had this short black dress on with open area around her hips. she was a cross between christina milian and rosalina dawson (chica in the movie rent). she was smoking! she went upstairs. and all i could do was wait. five minutes later she came back down and i just observe her. she's pretty much to herself, but she's very confident too. i gesture her to come over. we talk for bout five minutes (i speak terrible spanish, but when speaking to chicas i smile alot and use alot of nonverbal communication with hand gestures, etc. anyways, i ask her back to my chill back at the condo. she comes back and we sits on the bed. tells me she's from santiago. 20 years old. visiting her sister. anyways, she stands up and takes her dress off. wow! i take my clothes off and we're off! she starts with an excellent bbbj, then we start of missionary then she rolls on top of me. then i roll back on her. sideways. everyway you can imagine except anal. finally back to missionary. by this point in the trip, my stamina is comparable to pamela anderson. so we go on for bout good 45 minutes. we come back to missionary and i've been holding this nut for long enough. so i take off my condom and straddle her while she's blowing me. right before i cum i take it out and tell her to lick my balls while i deposit leche on her tongue, lips, and pretty little face. aaahhhh. afterwards, we talk and do it again. this time more passion (as a newbie monger i dread to say this, but we made love). anyways, we wake up in the morning with more passionate sex (twice). it's noon now so we go grab a bite to eat. walk around for bout hour, then we go back to condo. no sex just dormir and holding. we wake up mid afternoon. she doesn't want to leave, and i don't want her to but the monger inside tells me to get rid of her. to this point there's been no mention of money! before she leaves i give her 1500 pesos. she never even counts the money! i tell her i'll call her soon.
fifth night i go to classicos. pick up this nice dimple faced slim chica. tln. she stays till bout noon next morning. she was very sexy, but she had puataty like holland tunnel! i gave her 1300 pesos and she was off. at this point i'm tired of sex. so i chill out rest off day at sosua car wash (overrated), and various spots. and make my way back to the casino.
i'm not feeling like classicos tonite so i give elizabeth (girl next door with all passion) a ring. she says she's got her amiga with her. i say both of you hop on motoconcho and meet me at tradewinds. i hop on moto and head back. i wait about two minutes and they arrive. her friend is beautiful! very curvy with asian eyes and very soft spoken. we go inside. you know deal prez+conversation. they ask me what i want. i say "happy hour" so her friend takes her clothes off and unzips my pants and starts to blow me. while elizabeth kisses my chest, neck, and lips. her friend is really good so less than fifteen minutes i squirt in her mouth. less than minutes later elizabeth gets call from her sister. says she has to leave. i must have looked like one sick puppy because she kept kissing and hugging me. saying sorry. her friend was getting dressed. so i asked if the friend wanted to stay. elizabeth paused like a statue for about five seconds then her friend said it was cool. i gave elizabeth un mill and she bounced (probably off to make more money! ) anyways, me and the friend got another session in that night. mostly doggy since she had j-lo thing going on. she was really sweet and stayed the next day to noon. i gave her 1300 pesos then she bounced.
my last day i went to beach, got normal massage, my first manicure and pedicure. got drunk. my last night on way classicos i met this nice light bubbly chica. she mentioned she worked for passions so we went back tln and she tried her damnest to make me happy. she was cool. i just was tired and not really into her. i woke up next day and was out.
newbies, i have only one regret. i should have spent more time with girl next door (elizabeth).
i believe when you meet a chica that you vibe with, drop dead gorgeous, and has great sex in dr. you keep her close. there's so many tigres and gazelles that are a waste of our time! we all want gfe with beautiful woman. you can always find beautiful women in dr, but gfe is never guaranteed.
veterans i need your help! i've already bought my ticket for september to go to bocha chica (figured its too earlier to go back to sosua). i need a comparable place to tradewinds for least amount of money and i'm venturing into santo domingo and santiago. i want to find some nonpros this trip.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
First, I'the like to thank everyone on this board for the info before I went on my first trip to dr. I was well prepared for the "putas". Especially helpmann (see the "gazelle" and "tigre" report....
...Veterans I need your help! I've already bought my ticket for September to go to bocha chica (figured its too earlier to go back to sosua). I need a comparable place to tradewinds for least amount of money and I'm venturing into santo domingo and santiago. I want to find some nonpros this trip...Congratulations! I wish I had a first trip like that one. Also, I appreciate you passing on the knowledge.
In reference to a comparable place to the Tradewinds, you won't find one in Boca Chica, it's all hotels. What's so special about Sosua (besides Classicos) is the inexpensive Condos and Villas (Caribe Campo, Casa Linda, Tradewinds...)
Of course you know, Boca Chica is not a good place to look for non-pros. Also, Boca Chica dies down in September, following the departure of the Italian tourists at the end of the August (Boca Chica's best months of the year are March, April, and August.)
There are a couple of places in Boca Chica that may be good enough (such as a room at Playa Vista) and you may want to consider looking for a condo in Santo Domingo (check-out the Real Estate section of DR1.)
Best,
Helpmann :)
Mr Enternational
07-30-07, 21:04
We all must remember to slow down with chicas. We are in control. And also never mention money to a gazelle. Play dumb! They believe we're stupid anyways! The only problem with gazelles is that they are very clingy. Veterans I need your help! I've already bought my ticket for September to go to bocha chica (figured its too earlier to go back to sosua). I need a comparable place to tradewinds for least amount of money and I'm venturing into santo domingo and santiago. I want to find some nonpros this trip.
Man that was a helluva report. I must put it in Reports of Distinction. But after going to Sosua, why would you want to waste your time in fucking Boca Chica? It sucks. There is no comparison. I have not been there in almost a year, but last time I was there it was a midnight curfew. That was enough to turn me off. I am not sure if it is still going on or not. But at midnight the cops were in the street making sure that the place was being vacated. The only think I liked about BC is that they had casas with a couple of drop dead gorgeous women. But at the same time I was not willing to pay US$80 to session with them. Maybe make plans to fly into SDQ to check out the Boca Chica scene. When you get the bad taste in your mouth you will probably want to take the bus back to Sosua. Then you can fly out of POP. If you insist on Boca Chica then I recommend:
Costalunga Residencial Club
www.costalunga.net
The damage is US$40/night, I guess similar to what you paid at Tradewinds. 5 minute walk to the beach.
Bigsmoove,
With all due respect brother, I really enjoyed your report. But when the police get involved over a few dollars, you don't need that shit. SD and Boca are good spots but not like Sosua. I stay at El Candi in B.C. And Mercure when in S.D. Both are chica friendly with easy hunting nearby. You are right when you get that one enjoy her completely. With me its about Quality not Quantity. I'm going down in Sept. I got a girlfriend in S.D. Then I catch the metro to Sosua and go crazy for a few days. It's all an adventure live it.
Looking1964
08-01-07, 02:55
Hi all,
First timer on this board but a senior member of the Florida board. I went to Sosua back in august of 2005. I was there for 4 days. I mainly hit the Disco Classico. I am planning to go at the endo f aug or beginning of sept. of this year. After reading this board I have a few questions
1. What is the definition of "semi-pro" adn "non-pro"?
2. For pro, semi and non should I come to terms on a price before we depart for my room? or at the room? I am looking at the bars for TLNs.
3. Are there local spots that have more semi or non pros? Every bar I was in around the Classico seemed to be swimming in pros.
4. What is a good price for a short time (afternoon delight thing)?
5. Last time I was there just about every women on the beach was there for the same reason. Does this still hold true??
Thanks for any info!
Fellas,
From what you guys are saying. I have no business going to Boca Chica. The plan was to fly into SDQ. Then stay in both Boca Chica and Santo Domingo for 3 days. Then take bus to Santiago. I need your help on where to hangout and find nonpros. Piano bars, discos, universads, etc.
I like to think my best attribute in life is the ability to adapt. I know people are different in different parts of the country. For example, in Sosua. You can go up to any woman and flirt. And there's 90% you can close the deal. I took trip into POP and tried same approach and the numbers dropped to say 50/50%. I understand Santiago is even more challenging? I'm all ears fellas. Let me know the do's and don'ts of these three cities.
Mr Enternational
08-01-07, 12:04
Bigsmoove, PM me and I will let you in on what I know.
Fellas,
I've already setup my next trip to land in SDQ. Then depart 8 days later in POP. Now here is where I need advice. My total trip airfare is less than 400 bucks incl taxes.
I could A)Land in LAS. Then take cabby to Boca chica for day or two. Then take Caribe tours to Santiago. And split time between Santiago, Caberete, and Sousa. And leave at POP
Be) I could land in LAS. Then go directly to Santiago via Caribe Tours. Spend most time in Santiago (chasing the big fish/nonpros). Then finish up in Caberete and Sousa.
I hear bad reports about south coast. Overpriced, less attractive women, etc. Should I just stick to central/north?
From Las american Airport how do I get to Caribe tours? Can I catch local taxi there? I know I'm cheap, but my profession is banking/finance so I'm always looking save buck!
Tom Gueguen
08-02-07, 04:06
Fellas,
I've already setup my next trip to land in SDQ. Then depart 8 days later in POP. Now here is where I need advice. My total trip airfare is less than 400 bucks incl taxes.
I could A)Land in LAS. Then take cabby to Boca chica for day or two. Then take Caribe tours to Santiago. And split time between Santiago, Caberete, and Sousa. And leave at POP
Be) I could land in LAS. Then go directly to Santiago via Caribe Tours. Spend most time in Santiago (chasing the big fish/nonpros). Then finish up in Caberete and Sousa.
I hear bad reports about south coast. Overpriced, less attractive women, etc. Should I just stick to central/north?
From Las american Airport how do I get to Caribe tours? Can I catch local taxi there? I know I'm cheap, but my profession is banking/finance so I'm always looking save buck!
You are right, head north and let the south coast for the few mongers who can handle overpriced unattractive women.
They use to like to have most for them (haha).
When arriving the airport, you can take a taxi who will take you to the caribe tours station.
Have a good trip....
I hear bad reports about south coast. Overpriced, less attractive women, etc. Should I just stick to central/north?I prefer the South Coast over Sosua, but it takes several trips to learn the best spots to go. Sure Sosua has 500 chicas but how many can you do at a time?
From your posts I would think you would be better off to spend most of your time up North. You might want to consider only one or two nights in Boca Chica. This will not give you the true feeling of the South Coast as you really need to bounch back and forth between Santo Domingo and Boca Chica. But like I said, it takes several trips to learn how to do this.
The nicer chicas in BC are found blocks away from Calle Durate. Stop in a colmado away from Durate, drink a Prez and see what will walk-in or walk-by.
Boca Chica Beach is much nicer than Playa Sosua. The restaurants on the beach in Boca Chica are much better. Just for watching eye candy you sure can't beat El Conde in Santo Domingo.
Just my two pesos.
If all you have is 8 days I'd say forget about santiago. Land in SDQ put some money aside for 1 or 2 higher priced sessions at a casa like girls house or stroll El Conde for semi pros. Maybe 2 nights in SDQ then one day in boca chica then on to sosua. Things got a little better for me the longer I was in sosua. It takes a few days to figure out who to go with and who to stay away from.
Cabarete might be worth a quick look one day but the three times I went there it was dead. I did not however go at night. Sometimes you will meet girls in sosua from cabarete and they seem to be less spoiled since things have slown down alot there.
Ive heard mixed things about boca chica. An american that lives in sosua said he swears by it. Another american I met said it was way too sketchy and the girls were too hard for him.
I just finished my first trip to the DR, with ten days in Sosua. All I can say is what a disappointment. I had high hope for the DR, because it is so easy to travel too, but I will be taking the longer flights to asia from here on out. I did have a few fun girls, but for the most part found them to be so inferior in attitude and looks to the girls working in asia that I will not make this trip again. I learned quickly not to do anything but ST, as they are all runners in Sosua. ST, not a problem for 500-1000, but I prefer the all nighters. The LT I had worked out became ST at LT price. This is the stories I got from most of the visitors I talked to in town. Talked to a guy that had his money grabbed by one of the nasty bitchs on the street that tries to grab your dick as you walk by. Keep your valuables locked up and keep your hand on your wallet as you walk the streets of Sosua at night. If you like ST sex with prison sluts then Sosua is the place for you. Told there has been an explosion in the number of girls using cocaine now and it has impacted quality and attitude. All I know is it is a lot of work to find a fun clean girl over the age of 18 in this town. All ways ask to see an ID and check to see if it is the girl you are talking too. Don't waste your time on a girl if she does not have an ID on her. Sousa, better then going to the hood to fuck some crack hose, but not much.
Member #2128
08-03-07, 17:50
I just finished my first trip to the DR, with ten days in Sosua. All I can say is what a disappointment. I had high hope for the DR, because it is so easy to travel too, but I will be taking the longer flights to asia from here on out. I did have a few fun girls, but for the most part found them to be so inferior in attitude and looks to the girls working in asia that I will not make this trip again. I learned quickly not to do anything but ST, as they are all runners in Sosua. ST, not a problem for 500-1000, but I prefer the all nighters. The LT I had worked out became ST at LT price. This is the stories I got from most of the visitors I talked to in town. Talked to a guy that had his money grabbed by one of the nasty bitchs on the street that tries to grab your dick as you walk by. Keep your valuables locked up and keep your hand on your wallet as you walk the streets of Sosua at night. If you like ST sex with prison sluts then Sosua is the place for you. Told there has been an explosion in the number of girls using cocaine now and it has impacted quality and attitude. All I know is it is a lot of work to find a fun clean girl over the age of 18 in this town. All ways ask to see an ID and check to see if it is the girl you are talking too. Don't waste your time on a girl if she does not have an ID on her. Sousa, better then going to the hood to fuck some crack hose, but not much.
I'm sorry to hear you had such a rotten time.
A town full of "Prison Sluts". What a concept!
Yeah, I'd have to agree that there is a unhealthy supply of "sharks", "tigresses", "ghetto rats" and....."prison sluts" roaming Pedro Clisante, the clubs and the beach in Sosua. They are as repulsive as you say. And there is garbage in the street. However, if that's all you can see, you're right to be going on to Asia. I see something else in Sosua besides the garbage. I see a shabby, but sparkling paradise, full of sun and fun. And each time I've gone, I've walked past the "grabbers", the "hustlers" and the "prison sluts" and found myself a sweet angel or two. But hey, that's just me.
BTW, you didn't mention if you spoke Spanish. It does help you move better.
Cheers,
#2128
Freetime - Is this who I think it is ?
Yes the term "prison sluts" immediately came to mind when I saw these girls. There are some pretty girls walking around but man are there some uglies. Some of those girls look like they've been tossed recycled then melted down. I was amazed to see what some guys were calling "sweet P" but I like a huge ass so who am I to talk.
I think knowing spanish will help you negotiate but you still need to have that basic instinct. The concept of going for shortime before longterm is a VERY good idea. You can always ask to extend the session if the service is good. I heard a few stories of guys paying for long term then only getting short term.
The best sessions were from girls I met in the daytime wandering the streets. Beware that some of these girls do not keep themselves as tidy as the disco girls.
I would go back to sosua as long as the weather was nice and only for two weeks at a time. I had thought I might want to stay for a month and use sosua as a home base to travel the country but it really bothered me to be in a beautiful country and stay in more or less a ghetto. The nicer hotels have better views but chicas are not welcomed. Also the concept of healthy eating has yet to reach sosua. My immune system was collapsing by the time I was going to leave. I went many days drinking beer eating strange P and smoking cigs without proper nutrition. Some restaurants offer vegetables but it will cost you. I guess you can cook for yourself in a condo or something but to me prices in the supermaket did not look any different than eating from a menu.
Freetime - Is this who I think it is ?
Yes the term "prison sluts" immediately came to mind when I saw these girls. There are some pretty girls walking around but man are there some uglies. Some of those girls look like they've been tossed recycled then melted down. I was amazed to see what some guys were calling "sweet P" but I like a huge ass so who am I to talk.
I think knowing spanish will help you negotiate but you still need to have that basic instinct. The concept of going for shortime before longterm is a VERY good idea. You can always ask to extend the session if the service is good. I heard a few stories of guys paying for long term then only getting short term.
The best sessions were from girls I met in the daytime wandering the streets. Beware that some of these girls do not keep themselves as tidy as the disco girls.
I would go back to sosua as long as the weather was nice and only for two weeks at a time. I had thought I might want to stay for a month and use sosua as a home base to travel the country but it really bothered me to be in a beautiful country and stay in more or less a ghetto. The nicer hotels have better views but chicas are not welcomed. Also the concept of healthy eating has yet to reach sosua. My immune system was collapsing by the time I was going to leave. I went many days drinking beer eating strange P and smoking cigs without proper nutrition. Some restaurants offer vegetables but it will cost you. I guess you can cook for yourself in a condo or something but to me prices in the supermaket did not look any different than eating from a menu.
Restaurants serve salads too, and there is always plenty of fresh fruit around.
There are plenty of alternatives to drinking beer. At one time whole populations drank nothing but beer because drinking water was routinely contaminated, but in Sosua bottled water is always available, costs much less than beer, and is perfectly healthy. In fact you should also use it to brush your teeth.
Why would you smoke cigarettes in Sosua if that was something you did not normally do? That alone would significantly diminish the quality of response you would get from sexual partners, because no one wants to go with someone whose clothes, hair, and breath reeks of tobacco, and especially not when they want to light up indoors.
Supermarket prices for food are significantly cheaper than restaurant prices, and this becomes very marked and obvious when eating for two. Compare the cost of buying a gallon of orange juice or drinking water to the cost of a small bottle or glass in a restaurant.
Perhaps you are referring to eating at Dominican places, roadside stalls etc., in which case what you say has some truth to it.
Restaurants serve salads too, and there is always plenty of fresh fruit around.
There are plenty of alternatives to drinking beer. At one time whole populations drank nothing but beer because drinking water was routinely contaminated, but in Sosua bottled water is always available, costs much less than beer, and is perfectly healthy. In fact you should also use it to brush your teeth.
Why would you smoke cigarettes in Sosua if that was something you did not normally do? That alone would significantly diminish the quality of response you would get from sexual partners, because no one wants to go with someone whose clothes, hair, and breath reeks of tobacco, and especially not when they want to light up indoors.
Supermarket prices for food are significantly cheaper than restaurant prices, and this becomes very marked and obvious when eating for two. Compare the cost of buying a gallon of orange juice or drinking water to the cost of a small bottle or glass in a restaurant.
Perhaps you are referring to eating at Dominican places, roadside stalls etc., in which case what you say has some truth to it.
The concept of a salad in the DR is chopped iceberg lettuce or cabbage. You can order a salad or even get a salad bar at a restaurant like baileys but you risk getting sick. One should never eat raw salads in a foreign country. You might get away with it a few times but the one time you dont you will suffer. I was sick in bed for two days with the chills and feeling very weak from some food I ate. Trying to get a restaurant to steam vegetables for you can sometimes be a hassle or they just dont do it because not enough people demand it.
Most of the girls I were with smoked and it had no effect at all on me finding
women. As a matter of fact I got tired of all my ex's asking me for a smoke out in the bars. Also I never said I wanted to drink more water than beer. I just wanted a decent meal to balance it all out.
True maybe you can save a few bucks at the supermarket when eating for two but from what I saw a single guy is better off eating somewhere like rockys. A trip to the supermarket for a bottle of water a few beers and some gatorade was like $12. Compared to other latin countries that is extremely high. The DR is affordable but not cheap.
Freetime - Is this who I think it is ?
Yes the term "prison sluts" immediately came to mind when I saw these girls. There are some pretty girls walking around but man are there some uglies. Some of those girls look like they've been tossed recycled then melted down. I was amazed to see what some guys were calling "sweet P" but I like a huge ass so who am I to talk.
I think knowing spanish will help you negotiate but you still need to have that basic instinct. The concept of going for shortime before longterm is a VERY good idea. You can always ask to extend the session if the service is good. I heard a few stories of guys paying for long term then only getting short term.
The best sessions were from girls I met in the daytime wandering the streets. Beware that some of these girls do not keep themselves as tidy as the disco girls.
I would go back to sosua as long as the weather was nice and only for two weeks at a time. I had thought I might want to stay for a month and use sosua as a home base to travel the country but it really bothered me to be in a beautiful country and stay in more or less a ghetto. The nicer hotels have better views but chicas are not welcomed. Also the concept of healthy eating has yet to reach sosua. My immune system was collapsing by the time I was going to leave. I went many days drinking beer eating strange P and smoking cigs without proper nutrition. Some restaurants offer vegetables but it will cost you. I guess you can cook for yourself in a condo or something but to me prices in the supermaket did not look any different than eating from a menu.Might be, meet a few travels on the beach, who I ***** to about the lack of quality and attitude of the working girls in town.
I'm sorry to hear you had such a rotten time.
A town full of "Prison Sluts". What a concept!
Yeah, I'd have to agree that there is a unhealthy supply of "sharks", "tigresses", "ghetto rats" and....."prison sluts" roaming Pedro Clisante, the clubs and the beach in Sosua. They are as repulsive as you say. And there is garbage in the street. However, if that's all you can see, you're right to be going on to Asia. I see something else in Sosua besides the garbage. I see a shabby, but sparkling paradise, full of sun and fun. And each time I've gone, I've walked past the "grabbers", the "hustlers" and the "prison sluts" and found myself a sweet angel or two. But hey, that's just me.
BTW, you didn't mention if you spoke Spanish. It does help you move better.
Cheers,
#2128My Spanish is extremly limited, and I agree it would have helped, but I meet lot of travels who were fluent in Spanish and most agreed that the talent in Sosua was/is lacking. I did have a few fun girls, but it was work finding them and they would have been considered average to the girls to be had in asia at half the price. The diving, snokeling and other daytime activities all so were not as good and were at much higher prices then can be found in asia. Bottom line, bang for the buck, Sosua is not the place to go if you have more the a week to travel.
DR Monger II
08-03-07, 23:26
I too didn't have a good time with women in sosua. I wouldn't use the term prison sluts. There are a few beauties there. There are even a few white hispanic women in classicos, but very rare. I think in order for one to enjoy sosua or classicos you must be into black or Haitian women. BTW, I went to Classicos or Merengue Bar one night and just sat there and I couldn't find a woman that I was attracted to. However, they are available. I've seen a few of the beauties taken by other men walking out of Europa and other parts of town. Maybe most of the good ones are already booked. I didn't spend 24 hours looking for women. I think the key to Sosua and other latin american countries is to brush up on your spanish and be fluent in it. I think that a lot of Sosua women are more likely to leave early or steal from you if you didn't know Spanish.
I too didn't have a good time with women in sosua. I wouldn't use the term prison sluts. There are a few beauties there. There are even a few white hispanic women in classicos, but very rare. I think in order for one to enjoy sosua or classicos you must be into black or Haitian women. BTW, I went to Classicos or Merengue Bar one night and just sat there and I couldn't find a woman that I was attracted to. However, they are available. I've seen a few of the beauties taken by other men walking out of Europa and other parts of town. Maybe most of the good ones are already booked. I didn't spend 24 hours looking for women. I think the key to Sosua and other latin american countries is to brush up on your spanish and be fluent in it. I think that a lot of Sosua women are more likely to leave early or steal from you if you didn't know Spanish.
i totally agree with you. During my last trip towards the end i did not even bother to go to the discos anymore. Most of the girls were just ugly and asked for way to much money like 3000 pesos. The best girls i had in Sosua concerning looks and performance in bed were all passions girls.
Speaking spanish really helps you alot when you have to deal with girls in sosua.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the theme echoed here. I'm currently in Sosua at the end of a ten day trip. My fourth over the past few months. I have had a totally different experience and found some great chicas here. In fact, my problems have arisen with trying to decide which one to stay with. Have had two novias this trip, a lithesome beauty with canela skin and morena hair and a tall thin bleach blonde with claro (white) skin. Both excellent girlfriends. Have had numerous other positive experiences and only one bad time on my first trip. It is crucial for this experience that one speaks Spanish pretty well as generally any chica that speaks English is too hardcore for my tastes. Had a friend down here on vacation (also on this board) during this trip who had and has had similar experiences, but again he speaks fluent Spanish. Both of us are also older and experienced in the hunt. You really have to spend some time talking with them before you drag one home to get a feel as to what kind of experience this chica would provide. To my mind's eye, you don't need a bar full of 10s to have great time down here I just need one or two each night who makes the grade and if you find a keeper, spend a couple days with a novia.
Third World
08-04-07, 07:53
You guys are breaking my heart talking bout the girls of Sosua. I have a trip scheduled for November, staying at Casa Linda and I was really looking forward to going to Sosua. I've been to BB's 4 times and wanted to branch out to something different and try the Sosua scene and now I'm having second thoughts! I've been to classico and I did see a couple beauties but not many but I just figured maybe I need to stay down here a couple days to get the full experience but now I don't know...........Luckily I have my novia incase it's as bad as yall say.
There are plenty of great chicas around!
@Freetime
Your experience about Sosua is nearly same for people who come there first time. When is was there the first time I saw it nearly same like you. And I couldn't speak nearly any Spanish. But now I been there often time and my spanish is getting better. As I know now many of the girls and talk with them, things going good so far. When I talk with girls and they same to be bad I even get informed by other chicas or people from the bar. You can find really nice girls there, but of course the opposite two. So when you go there is the best that you walking around with someone who has some experience and can tell you witch one is good and can also talk Spanish. With some girls are like good friends for me there, even if I didn't bring them home, but we can talk about everything and that's important. Sometimes I offer them a drink to talk and just treat them nice, but knowing, I will not bring here home. The thing with the girl which likes to touch your dick and on same time your wallet to, is known there. So when I'm there or work in any third world country, I never have a wallet, special at nighttime. As I said your bad experience there, was a bad start, but believe me, when you speak the language and been there often, you will like it.come on we all learn in life and pay for it, but it will never stop os mongering. For that is a Guide like this good, where you can find many beginning information for what to watch out and what to do.
I will go back there in December cus I loven it.
Ben el Suizo
Third World,
I going to Sosua in November been their many time before if you look around town you can find many diamonds in the rough or go to la Passion .
Guys, stop trying to save a buck and go to Southeast Asia.
-Helpmann :)
The 80% (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548274&postcount=556)
Boca Chica Ain't For Newbies! (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=563605&postcount=977)
There are plenty of great chicas around!Not that many, lot of work to find them.
Mr Enternational
08-04-07, 14:18
To my mind's eye, you don't need a bar full of 10s to have great time down here I just need one or two each night who makes the grade and if you find a keeper, spend a couple days with a novia.
If we were all waiting to fuck 10s I don't think many of us would be fucking at all!
Mr Enternational
08-04-07, 14:36
One should never eat raw salads in a foreign country. You might get away with it a few times but the one time you dont you will suffer. I was sick in bed for two days with the chills and feeling very weak from some food I ate.
It's not necessarily the salad that you get sick from. It's the fact that you are not used to the bacteria. I have several friends who have recently had stories exactly like yours down in Sosua. Everybody attributes it to something different, eg. fish, beverages, and in your case salad.
The same thing happened to me a couple of years ago in Brazil. The only place I ate was at my girlfriend's house. Well when I got back home to the States I had the same symptoms as you for a couple of days, plus I had the shits for weeks. I lost about 20 pounds. I finally went to the doctor and she said that it was traveler's diarrhea. She sent me to the pharmacy to get Lactobacillus Granules over-the-counter. It is simply dried up "good" bacteria that replaces the "bad" bacteria in your digestive tract that is causing you to be sick. After a day or two of adding it to my food I was back to my old self. I even put the unwanted weight back on.
You guys are breaking my heart talking bout the girls of Sosua. I have a trip scheduled for November, staying at Casa Linda and I was really looking forward to going to Sosua. I've been to BB's 4 times and wanted to branch out to something different and try the Sosua scene and now I'm having second thoughts! I've been to classico and I did see a couple beauties but not many but I just figured maybe I need to stay down here a couple days to get the full experience but now I don't know...........Luckily I have my novia incase it's as bad as yall say.
At the discos there are always the same girls. Trust me after 3 or 4 nights you will recognise most of them.
La passion usually has a very good selection of girls, and my best session in sosua were with passion girls.
Third World
08-05-07, 01:57
At the discos there are always the same girls. Trust me after 3 or 4 nights you will recognise most of them.
La passion usually has a very good selection of girls, and my best session in sosua were with passion girls.
I've been to La Passions those girls have alot of energy! One of them jumped on my neck hanging from the top of the bar. I was like WTF! I'm not really worried bout me, I'm more concerned about my buddies that I convinced not go to BB's this time and come to Sosua with me but hey...fuk it! I need to experience that zone so whateva happens, happens...I"M GOING AS ACCORDING TO PLAN. I have to see things for myself......I should be okay.
I'm thinking about my first trip end of august.I had settle for BB four nights five days. After reading your posts for the last two weeks I'm confused, HELP.
Passions is the best thing about Sosua .
It's like going to Orlando and not going at Disney (a must see) .
John Jr
Escort King
08-05-07, 21:19
Passions is the best thing about Sosua .
It's like going to Orlando and not going at Disney (a must see) .
John JrI agree with you it is a must see.
Taxigis, Sosua and Blackbeards are great. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. If you are more laid back, Blackbeards might be the place for you. I usually spend two nights at blackbeards and three nights at Sosua. Keep reading the posts and I'm sure you will have great time wherever you go.
Peace Brother
08-06-07, 05:09
I thought I would post this link to La Passions because I did not see it anywhere else on this board.
http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/index.php?swidth=600
Peace Brother
08-06-07, 05:16
I want to thank everyone for their posts; I intend to visit the Dominican Republic soon, either this month or next, and the information I have learned from here will prove invaluable to me.
Does anyone know how much a taxi (not a motorcycle) would cost to get from Hotel Voramar to La Passions? I'm not sure how far apart they are. Also is it best to pay for taxis in pesos or American dollars?
Thanks in advance
I thought I would post this link to La Passions because I did not see it anywhere else on this board.
http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/index.php?swidth=600Thanks for the link. If you can read the writing on the site it seems to be a pretty hefty "salida fee". I believe it says take out before 6pm is 2000 pesos and 2500 pesos for the chica. 6-9 is 1500 pesos and 2000 for the chica. 9-12 is 1000 pesos and 2000 for the chica.
Can someone verify this. Are the La Passions girls worth it or is the fact that you don't have to worry about her leaving the hotel room in the middle of the night with your wallet?
You hit nail on the head! You don't have to worry about performance, energy, or theft with LaPassion girls. I've been to Sousa once and had very few problems, but it's roll of the dice.
The concept of a salad in the DR is chopped iceberg lettuce or cabbage. You can order a salad or even get a salad bar at a restaurant like baileys but you risk getting sick. One should never eat raw salads in a foreign country. You might get away with it a few times but the one time you dont you will suffer. I was sick in bed for two days with the chills and feeling very weak from some food I ate. Trying to get a restaurant to steam vegetables for you can sometimes be a hassle or they just dont do it because not enough people demand it.
Most of the girls I were with smoked and it had no effect at all on me finding
women. As a matter of fact I got tired of all my ex's asking me for a smoke out in the bars. Also I never said I wanted to drink more water than beer. I just wanted a decent meal to balance it all out.
True maybe you can save a few bucks at the supermarket when eating for two but from what I saw a single guy is better off eating somewhere like rockys. A trip to the supermarket for a bottle of water a few beers and some gatorade was like $12. Compared to other latin countries that is extremely high. The DR is affordable but not cheap.
A lot of people like Rocky's though I don't care for it that much. The food is good, but it takes a long time to come and the ambience is below par. Prices are reasonable, but they are gringo prices and not Dominican prices. Of the gringo restaurants, Morua Mai is worth checking out. There are a couple of Dominican places--one each side of the street--up near the Europa where you can get a decent meal for around 100 pesos.
Your experience clearly differs from mine, because my observation is that very few chicas as an overall percentage smoke cigarettes. One possibility is that the ones who smoke don't target me. Another is that the ones who do smoke targeted you. In any case, I suspect that chicas who smoke are less likely to provide exceptional service. Maybe I am wrong. I would welcome other peoples opinion on what proportion of chicas smoke and whether smoking chicas have any other performance characteristics.
A lot of people like Rocky's though I don't care for it that much. The food is good, but it takes a long time to come and the ambience is below par. Prices are reasonable, but they are gringo prices and not Dominican prices. Of the gringo restaurants, Morua Mai is worth checking out. There are a couple of Dominican places--one each side of the street--up near the Europa where you can get a decent meal for around 100 pesos.
Your experience clearly differs from mine, because my observation is that very few chicas as an overall percentage smoke cigarettes. One possibility is that the ones who smoke don't target me. Another is that the ones who do smoke targeted you. In any case, I suspect that chicas who smoke are less likely to provide exceptional service. Maybe I am wrong. I would welcome other peoples opinion on what proportion of chicas smoke and whether smoking chicas have any other performance characteristics.
Also I should add that local food products are relatively cheap, but imported items cost much more (this also applies to cosmetics, toothpaste, camera films, anything like that). A beer is about 40 pesos in the supermarket vs about 80 pesos or more in a bar. A gallon of water is also, I think, about 40 pesos. The Gatorade will cost you a lot, I am sure, because it is not a native product of the DR and not something that Dominicans would buy.
I want to thank everyone for their posts; I intend to visit the Dominican Republic soon, either this month or next, and the information I have learned from here will prove invaluable to me.
Does anyone know how much a taxi (not a motorcycle) would cost to get from Hotel Voramar to La Passions? I'm not sure how far apart they are. Also is it best to pay for taxis in pesos or American dollars?
Thanks in advance
A taxiride within sosua costs 50 peses and you should pay in pesos. The cabride from the voramar to la passion will take rond about 1 minute as they are close to eachother. When i was there the last time i usually walked the distance. To walk will take you round about 15 minutes.
Thanks for the link. If you can read the writing on the site it seems to be a pretty hefty "salida fee". I believe it says take out before 6pm is 2000 pesos and 2500 pesos for the chica. 6-9 is 1500 pesos and 2000 for the chica. 9-12 is 1000 pesos and 2000 for the chica.
Can someone verify this. Are the La Passions girls worth it or is the fact that you don't have to worry about her leaving the hotel room in the middle of the night with your wallet?
My best session i had in sosua always were with passions girls. All the girls i had, had lot`s of energy and were eager to please. I have never had a problem with a girl from la passion what so ever.
Well i usually set up my meetings with passions girls after 1 am in the morning (during the week) when the place was already shut down, so i never paid a bar fine.
I also got some phonenumbers and i hooked up with them on their day off and we went to the beach together....
Member #2128
08-06-07, 18:46
Before I traveled to Sosua for the first time I had heard all sorts of great things about Passions. It seemed to be a mainstay for many mongers who post here. So, when I arrived it was one of my first stops.
What a disappointment! I walked to the opposite end of town from where the beach is to find this little outside bar with a few very average Domincanas sitting around waiting for their next go-round. This was the famous Passions? They were all friendly and smiley in a very "professional" way. But then I asked for the prices: to take a girl to one of the rooms....the salida....and the price for the girl to go out + the stated expectation of a propina! Damn. I think it was a play-package between 3000 -4000 pesos ($100 - $130 USD). Don't get me wrong. I'm no broke-ass punk. I have the money. But WTF. I'm in the Dominican Republic. A barmaid gets paid $3000 pesos/week! Maybe! The economy is different. I'm not going to compare prices in the DR with prices in the U.S. and say...."Oh, that's not so much..."
Anyway, I finished my cerveza, said my polite goodbyes to Passions and walked back to the beach, where I found a cute little skinny Haitiana honey for 500 ST. Bingo! We hooked up 3X during my 2 week stay, each time for 500, each time totally hot and satisfying. On the beach, on the streets, during the day, in the clubs at night, there was always something strange, exotic and more interesting to play with than the girls I had seen sitting around waiting for a tourist at Passions. I always paid my amigas 1000 or less for ST and if she would ask for more afterwards (a common tendency), I'd just say "no". No problem.
Some guys enjoy having the game all set up for them, like at Passions, or even more so at Black Beards in POP. I prefer the hunt, the risk, the play....
Like I said, different strokes for different folks. No judgement.
Happy Trails,
#2128
Before I traveled to Sosua for the first time I had heard all sorts of great things about Passions. It seemed to be a mainstay for many mongers who post here. So, when I arrived it was one of my first stops.
What a disappointment! And I thought it was just me.
-Helpmann :D
Peace Brother
08-06-07, 21:24
A taxiride within sosua costs 50 peses and you should pay in pesos. The cabride from the voramar to la passion will take rond about 1 minute as they are close to eachother. When i was there the last time i usually walked the distance. To walk will take you round about 15 minutes.Thanks for the info Berthold.
I have my tentative itinerary together now and I wanted to get some feedback from the experienced mongers out there. I realize that everybody's tastes are different, but any constructive criticisism will be appreciated.
I plan on arriving on a Wednesday and staying at the Hotel Voramar in one of their apartments. I will try my luck at the Hotel, the nearby casino (Playa Chiquita I believe), La Passions, and maybe the streets. I will leave Saturday for Blackbeards where I will stay until Wednesday and then head back home.
My spanish is next to nothing, thus the reason for BlackBeards, however I would like to try my luck in Sosua as well. What do you think?
The best thing about the DR is the ability to pick up semi pros and regular chicas who are hard up for money. I was introduced to passions on my first trip to the DR but something about paying $30/40 for a hand job turned me off. Also I didnt hear too many thrilling stories about sessions from other guys.
Most of the bars in sosua are lame. You will get tired of chicas hitting you up for drinks. Latinos seems to be the most popular but after two nights of tweek music you'll want to do your business in the daytime. Get a phrase book and hit the streets.
I have my tentative itinerary together…………and staying at the Hotel Voramar in one of their apartments. Why Voramar? Voramar is in no man’s land. You will need a moto just about everywhere you would want to go. As far as taking a taxi the only ones I know of that you can telephone are the tourist cabs. That will get quite expensive. I think a hotel more centrally located would be much better.
New Garden Hotel is centrally located and you can walk anywhere you would want to go. Another choice is Club Residencial although not as close to the action as New Garden. Club R has one bedroom apts. If money is no object on the high end of the scale would be Casa Cayena. These are my favorite choices.
[QUOTE=Peace BrotherI will try my luck at the Hotel, the nearby casino (Playa Chiquita I believe), La Passions, and maybe the streets. [/QUOTE]You would be better of to reverse the order. Try the chica bars on Pedro Clisante, any chica walking down the street that smiles, the beach and maybe La Passions.
I really think you will have a much better time if you can walk the town. Sosua is a small town and it will take an half of day to learn the layout.
DR Monger II
08-07-07, 05:46
I stayed at Casa Cayena, it's cheaper than Club Residential. It's on a quiet street. Theres a girl working there that has her own apartment or something. Just a little down the laundrymat. She okay looking but the service was rushed. I would'nt recommend seeing her.
I took a look a casa cayena when I was shopping around for long term digs. I didnt see any rooms but the lay out of the place was weird. It seemed a little bit too busy for my taste.
The new garden hotel will serve your needs quite well. Eventhough alot of us unsavory types stay there it remains pretty mellow/low key. One night there was a group of young guys making noise late at night and I saw wilfried the manager drilling them. This is the kind of place I like. You party but you respect other people. Bring the $45 in cash and you cant go wrong at new garden.
If you are there longer than a week do club residencial. Either one would work quite well.
Peace Brother
08-07-07, 19:27
Why Voramar? Voramar is in no man’s land. You will need a moto just about everywhere you would want to go. As far as taking a taxi the only ones I know of that you can telephone are the tourist cabs. That will get quite expensive. I think a hotel more centrally located would be much better.
New Garden Hotel is centrally located and you can walk anywhere you would want to go. Another choice is Club Residencial although not as close to the action as New Garden. Club R has one bedroom apts. If money is no object on the high end of the scale would be Casa Cayena. These are my favorite choices.
You would be better of to reverse the order. Try the chica bars on Pedro Clisante, any chica walking down the street that smiles, the beach and maybe La Passions.
I really think you will have a much better time if you can walk the town. Sosua is a small town and it will take an half of day to learn the layout.Thanks for the feedback Bq Ribs
I have cancelled my reservation at Voramar. I realize that the Dominican Republic is 3rd world, however I still get nervous making reservations with some of these hotels at times. I intially made the reservation with Hotel Voramar, then called to confirm. I was told all was good; then the next day I get an email saying they no longer have any apartments available for me. I read somewhere that Hotel Europa and New Garden have reservation issues as well. I will try Club Residencial next and see how that goes.
I would like to be able to bring in 2 chicas overnight into my room without a problem. I would also like to be able to bring in Haitian girls (who may not have their cedula) without problem. Any suggestions?
DR Monger II
08-07-07, 20:10
I stayed at Casa Cayena for a week. It isn't busy. There are a few guests there. There are also a lot of regular tourists there. A few mongers though. It comes with a free breakfast, but the rates are 45-55. I don't remember what I paid. It seemed like there were very few people using the pool. The place seems a little bit run down, but so are the other hotels.
I took a look a casa cayena when I was shopping around for long term digs. I didnt see any rooms but the lay out of the place was weird. It seemed a little bit too busy for my taste.
The new garden hotel will serve your needs quite well.I am not sure what you found weird about Casa Cayena. It is a very nice hotel, with a decent free breakfast, nice pool and quiet. New Garden would be my first choice because of location but lately it is difficult to book a room.
I stayed at Casa Cayena for a week. It isn't busy. There are a few guests there. There are also a lot of regular tourists there. A few mongers though. It comes with a free breakfast, but the rates are 45-55. I don't remember what I paid. It seemed like there were very few people using the pool. The place seems a little bit run down, but so are the other hotels.
Last time I stayed at Perla de Sosua apartments, which is close to the beach behind the Banco Popular. Quiet location less than five minutes walk from Classico disco/Latino's.
About US$40 per night for a two bedroom apartment. A/C in bedrooms, pool, all the usual. Nice rooftop bar where you can have private parties.
The owner/manager is a very pleasant German dude called Hans who speaks fluent English, Spanish, German. No problems with a novia or girlfriend. Fairly liberal atmosphere, though they might frown on a constant parade of rental pussy.
I am going back there again.
You can find their Web site by G**gleing it.
Member #2128
08-08-07, 07:25
I would like to be able to bring in 2 chicas overnight into my room without a problem. I would also like to be able to bring in Haitian girls (who may not have their cedula) without problem. Any suggestions?
I have stayed at Club Residential. Nice place. Good AC. Reliable. Laundry on premises. Good security.
However, with them your booking allows for 2 persons. They make it clear that 3 persons (2 chicas) are not allowed. Also, cedulas are required for all "guests".
Both rules are for your protection---whether you like it or not.
Bringing two girls into your room at once can be a problem (read the board). It increases the possibility of one occupying your attention while the other steals things. There are a lot of "cons" that can take place when you're outnumbered 2:1. Also, it's a simple "power shift" that could create negative consequences for you if you make arrangements with the wrong 2 chicas!
The reason for the cedula rule is obvious. The hotel has some kind of I.D. or record of the chica who's in the room. Anything goes bad in the transaction, she cannot leave without her I.D. You're protected. It's an ace in the hole you want to have.
Haitianas: Yes, most of the good ones (young and not totally pro) will not have cedulas or legitimate I.D. You can ST at Calypso (an easy to find place for 300 pesos/$10) or I've heard that Rocky's has cheap rooms for about $20/day that you can use if Haitianas are your thing and it makes economic sense to have a "your own" place for those special friends with no I.D.
Hope this is helpful.
#2128
Peace Brother
08-08-07, 21:02
I have stayed at Club Residential. Nice place. Good AC. Reliable. Laundry on premises. Good security.
Haitianas: Yes, most of the good ones (young and not totally pro) will not have cedulas or legitimate I.D. You can ST at Calypso (an easy to find place for 300 pesos/$10) or I've heard that Rocky's has cheap rooms for about $20/day that you can use if Haitianas are your thing and it makes economic sense to have a "your own" place for those special friends with no I.D.
Hope this is helpful.
#2128Thanks for the feedback. I contacted Rocky's and asked specificlly about more than one chica and also about the cedula; he said no problema on both counts. Since I only have two days in Sosua to monger, I don't want any restrictions placed on me; so I'm going to go with Rocky's for the two days. I also believe he'll pick me up from the airport.
By the way, just a general question to all. I got my ticket today and I also purchased trip insurance as well. Has anybody else purchased trip insurance? I wonder if I am just being paranoid or was it a good idea on my part.
Thanks
Member #2128
08-09-07, 07:56
I'm going to go with Rocky's for the two days.
Two days? You'll barely have time to unpack, much less organize a decent 3-some and round up the sweetest of the undocumented Haitianas! Just kidding!
I don't know what you're used to, but Rocky's is real basic accomodations, but in a very cool setting next to the restaurant, one of the best values in town. But when I say "cool", I'm not talking about the temperature! I believe there is no AC, only ceiling fans. So it's going to be a hot room in a cool setting. Am I confused? Did you ask about AC? Rocky fans, help me out here. I've never stayed there.
Good luck and Peace, Brother. Please report back!
#2128
No AC to my knowledge but the best food in town at the best prices. Say hi to sonia in the morning. She's got the "best" ass.
The staff is very cool. If you have trouble with spanish issac(englishman born in spain) who works the evening shift will more than likely help you out. I noticed a few girls hang out there at the bar sometimes in the late afternoon/evening.
Peace Brother
08-09-07, 15:28
No AC to my knowledge but the best food in town at the best prices. Say hi to sonia in the morning. She's got the "best" ass.
The staff is very cool. If you have trouble with spanish issac(englishman born in spain) who works the evening shift will more than likely help you out. I noticed a few girls hang out there at the bar sometimes in the late afternoon/evening.
Marco at Rocky's seems very cool and I like that he answers my emails quickly. I was told that guests that stay a week or more get free airport pickup, however for me he'll charge $10 USD for pickup; which seems very reasonable to me. I'm sure I'll be spending time at the bar and restaurant; I'll be sure to report about the chica scene there. Hey Artisttyp is Sonia on the menu or she strictly staff?
I realize the rooms at Rockys may not be the most luxurious, however it's no hassle, and that's what is most important to me for this trip. #2128, I'll definately report back on my adventures; hopefully I'll have some pics to share as well.
BTW, how far is Rocky's from La Passions? Anybody know? Thanks.
Escort King
08-09-07, 21:13
Marco at Rocky's seems very cool and I like that he answers my emails quickly. I was told that guests that stay a week or more get free airport pickup, however for me he'll charge $10 USD for pickup; which seems very reasonable to me. I'm sure I'll be spending time at the bar and restaurant; I'll be sure to report about the chica scene there. Hey Artisttyp is Sonia on the menu or she strictly staff?
I realize the rooms at Rockys may not be the most luxurious, however it's no hassle, and that's what is most important to me for this trip. #2128, I'll definately report back on my adventures; hopefully I'll have some pics to share as well.
BTW, how far is Rocky's from La Passions? Anybody know? Thanks.It is about a mile between Rocky's and Passions - they used to be closer.
MiamiHeatLuver
08-09-07, 21:13
Going to D.R. to see me Dominicana Novia, Any other recomendations than EUROPA? shes coming in from S.D. price and location are keys here, just wanted to know if there is anything else out there compatable dollar for dollar. Regards! p.s websites are a plus!
Going to D.R. to see me Dominicana Novia, Any other recomendations than EUROPA? shes coming in from S.D. price and location are keys here, just wanted to know if there is anything else out there compatable dollar for dollar. Regards! p.s websites are a plus!Have you ever stayed at or seen Hotel Europa? If this is your novia in the true sense that she is your girlfried than I don't think she would enjoy Hotel Europa. If you plan to spend all your time with her than there are many other hotels. Just let me know what's your price range.
The best thing about the DR is the ability to pick up semi pros and regular chicas who are hard up for money. I was introduced to passions on my first trip to the DR but something about paying $30/40 for a hand job turned me off. Also I didnt hear too many thrilling stories about sessions from other guys.
Most of the bars in sosua are lame. You will get tired of chicas hitting you up for drinks. Latinos seems to be the most popular but after two nights of tweek music you'll want to do your business in the daytime. Get a phrase book and hit the streets.Passions only do hand jobs now?
Going to D.R. to see me Dominicana Novia, Any other recomendations than EUROPA? shes coming in from S.D. price and location are keys here, just wanted to know if there is anything else out there compatable dollar for dollar. Regards! p.s websites are a plus!
Yes, if you are with your novia, I would not stay at the Europa, because the whole ambience is of single men entertaining Dominican women for pay. There are girls sitting outside trying to hook residents as they come in and out.
Your novia will not like this.
The only reason to stay at the Europa is to be at a place where you can bring in women ad lib.
Last time I was in Sosua I stayed at the Perla de Sosua, which is about the same price as the Europa, but with somewhat nicer accommodations. You can find its Web site with phone numbers etc. The manager speaks good English. Your novia would like that much better.
However it is up to you. Other people may have better recommendations.
Passions only do hand jobs now?
I didnt go this time but I did notice it moved further away from the center. I've only had a drink there once but as far as I know its a massage and handjob place primiarily but other things can be arranged. I've only talked to people who have gone there.
I wouldnt waste my money going about it like that. I pay for someone to get nasty with me not tease me. When I get massages I usually go to a legit place which is cheaper and provides better massages.
Passions only do hand jobs now?
When i went there the last time the end of march in 2007 all the girls i had provided bbbjcim.
In all my mongering experiences I've never had CIM. Ive gotten a heck of alot of BBBJ but I always get a fearful look from the girl telling me dont shoot in her mouth.
How do you approach this with a girl and how much extra do you pay?
In all my mongering experiences I've never had CIM. Ive gotten a heck of alot of BBBJ but I always get a fearful look from the girl telling me dont shoot in her mouth.
How do you approach this with a girl and how much extra do you pay?
I am tempted to say that the answer is 1. get a novia, 2. nothing, but I guess that is a bit glib, so I will try to explain more.
These boards are full of the competitive element, with guys reporting that they had wonderful experiences for next to no cost, with the implication that if you can't get this yourself, then you are not the man the original reporter is.
Here is my take. Dominican women, be they full time prostitutes or just part timers don't really like the idea of selling specific sex acts. What they want ideally is a boyfriend, a novio, a regular who will give them a bit of respectability. So each time they are with a new client they are to some extent auditioning for an extended gig. The extent to which they will put out in this audition depends on their perception of the client as a potential boyfriend.
Hence the more "negatives" you have (in her view)--age, fatness, smoking, drinking, bad teeth, lack of Spanish, known philanderer, tightness of wallet, poor personal hygiene, whatever--the less likely she is to pull out all the stops to impress you.
So it is a bit like risk factors for heart disease. Some, which are hereditary or sex-linked, you can do nothing about, others, which are life-style related, you can do a lot about. With Dominican prostitutes all you can do is try to minimize your negatives and maximize your positives and see what happens.
(I am assuming that you have basic social skills and do the usual things like telling her you were attracted to her the first time you saw her, that she is the most attractive girl in the place, etc.)
If she doesn't want you to CIM, then offering more money probably won't make it happen, or if it does, then it won't be satisfactory. It is all in the quality of the relationship.
Also, she may perceive CIM as a health risk, especially if she knows you have been with (many) other girls. If this is the case, there is no point arguing or presenting scientific evidence to the contrary. Be thankful that she is aware of health issues and let it go. In fact compliment her on her good sense, and maybe she will come around sometime in the future. Remember that just as you may report on her on this board, she may well be reporting on you to all her friends.
Hope this helps.
Escort King
08-10-07, 15:49
When i went there the last time the end of march in 2007 all the girls i had provided bbbjcim.Yeah that seemed to be a usual on the menu there.
I go to DR for fun.
If anybody who is spanish speaking doing business in DR I have some business opportunities. I want some info on something I am working on.
Please send me a PM. Thanks.
Peace Brother
08-10-07, 16:37
It is about a mile between Rocky's and Passions - they used to be closer.Thanks Escort King.
Peace Brother
08-10-07, 16:43
Passions only do hand jobs now?I believe Passions use to only do massage and BJs on site. If you wanted more than that you needed to take the chica out, however I believe that there are now a few new rooms on the premise which can be used for more than just a BJ.
MiamiHeatLuver
08-10-07, 17:14
Have you ever stayed at or seen Hotel Europa? If this is your novia in the true sense that she is your girlfried than I don't think she would enjoy Hotel Europa. If you plan to spend all your time with her than there are many other hotels. Just let me know what's your price range.
YESSSSS ive been to the DR maybe 18 times my passport says, but everytime I used to go it was to monger never to entertain a normal girl. Moved on to bigger and better things and know go once or twice a year. Perla de sosua seems quite nice where is it located? near HALIGALI? or Behind, like near Verizon? I did a google and all im getting is brokers, Id rather go through the owner directly if anybody has the number. Ive been and seen many German families stay at europa maybe I can trick her? lol I just like DIEGO and KNOW what im getting, but willing and able for a change. REGARDS!
Mr Enternational
08-10-07, 21:48
Have you ever stayed at or seen Hotel Europa? If this is your novia in the true sense that she is your girlfried than I don't think she would enjoy Hotel Europa. If you plan to spend all your time with her than there are many other hotels. Just let me know what's your price range.
Albeit I have only done it only a couple of times, I have never had a problem entertaining a non-pro at Hotel Europa. Hell the desk clerk there is even my casi-novia. To them it was no big deal that the place had hookers. I guess it's all in being a player though. Just be confident in yourself. It might even help if you bring it up first. Say to you girl, "Damn, there sure are a bunch of hookers around here." Then water will be under the bridge. But like BBQ said, if you plan on only being with her then it would make all the sense in the world to choose one of the nicer non-mongering places that you can enjoy together. I like to use Europa as my mongering base and get my non-pros in between time.
Phreeman69
08-13-07, 00:43
Sosua exceeded my expectations, and confirmed a lot posted here about the mentality Dominicana: stay away from the hardened pros and treat them like girlfriends.
I arrived around noon and checked into Hotel Cayena, which I highly recommend. It's more of a tourist hotel and a little more expensive ($60/night I think) but chica friendly. I wanted a quickie so I headed for the bars in the center of town. Nobody was around at that hour, but I said hello to an old guy sitting with 3 girls. Turns out he's the restaurant owner with one waitress and two of her friends.
I came right out and said I was looking for girls, and he asked what I was looking to pay. So I said 500 pesos ($15) and he laughed, saying the going rate was 2000. Anyway only the fat friend would come with me so I sat down for a beer and cheeseburger.
Well as soon as the guy went to the kitchen, the younger friend says she wants to come with me but we can't tell the old man! She was really excited, gorgeous, and an obvious newbie (18). I made the stupid mistake of bringing the fat one with us and letting her wait. It was a nice session anyway.
She protested when I put only the 500 pesos in her pocket I had promised and I probably should have tipped her more...
The following night showed me both sides of Sosua. I picked up a beauty who promised everything, all night, for 1500 pesos. Then in the room she wanted the money upfront! That wasn't happening, I took her straight back, which turned out to be the best thing I ever did.
Margarita is a petite local who dances upstairs in one of the discos. Definitely worth looking for, guys. She was sweet, horney as hell, and gave incredible head. I had two great nights with her. She agreed to 1000 pesos the first night but I gave her 1500 for staying the night, and $50 US the second night.
I was her "boyfriend" (as were all of the other guys she'd had, she'd been working about a year) and she was equally proud of her respectability as her technique. Then on the third night as we're heading back to the hotel she catches me gawking at another girl, loses her temper, and stomps off! Can you believe that.
I needed the rest anyway and was leaving the next morning. I had one last massage which turned out to be surprisingly nice. She disrobed, let me roam, and took BBBJCIM. I gave her 500 (300 regular rate for 30 minutes)
I can't wait for my next trip!
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la vida buena.
after 8 trips to sosua in less than 4 years i not only anticipate but have adapted to certain rituals – you know, quirky things that only seem to occur on vacations to this slice of heaven, like gorgeous bartenders who wrap presidentes in cute little napkin "skirts", blackouts practically everyday and the most pleasant. dealing with less than solid waste management issues during bathroom visits. so it was with anxious anticipation that i gladly participated in another dr custom as the wheels screeched to a rolling stop beneath my seat on this aa flight from miami.
i clapped and cheered along with 200 other tourists and residents for i was back on dominican soil after a year’s absence and trips to other parts of the world with arguably much more to offer than tiny sosua. and yet sosua will forever hold a special place as a quick 3-hour alternative to my new love – brazil and more specifically. rio de janeiro. but brazil is literally 1, 000s of miles away from me as i made my way down the ramp into customs, dancing a two step to the frantic rhythms of a trio who accepted my crisp $5. 00 propina with a smile. after getting a stamp in my passport and grabbing my bags, i entered dominican heat!
oh it’s hot in new york this summer. when i left the forecast called for 93 in central park. but there’s something to be said for caribbean heat. i ain’t complaining ‘cause i like it hot, but it takes a minute to adjust. and just as i’m ready to shed my shirt and go bare-chested, i’m noticing taxi drivers wearing jackets and hats! i turned away. but not before borrowing one of the driver’s phones to call mi amiga who agreed to meet me at the airport.
i called and as i indicated where i was, i noticed her speeding around the corner on the back of a motoconcho screaming my name and laughing as she came closer. she hopped off the bike and ran to me arms outstretched in her cute little corduroy jacket. wow, sometimes you never realize to what extent someone is missed until you go two years without seeing them. but after catching up on each other’s lives, and reflecting on our history together during the drive to sosua, it was as if we were never apart.
after checking into my hotel – sosua by the sea, we settled in and walked to activate my cellular and change my dinero. we walked to bailey’s and met another friend of hers for lunch. it was getting late, and i was getting tired, mi amiga decided to stay in the hotel with me and i had no problem with that. the plan was for me to take a quick nap and hit the clubs around 10: 30 or so. yeah right! we were both out and at 1:30am i rolled over and said "oh, well. "
the next morning we had breakfast overlooking the ocean and i walked her to the highway where she boarded a taxi to the bus to return to her hometown. i thanked her for meeting me at the airport and gave her a linen armani exchange blouse (one of many i bought in nyc to give to my girls.). needless to say she thanked me. i gave her a hug and a kiss and she promised she’d return before i leave. cool.
susana’s is probably my favorite restaurant in sosua (with restaurant central in charamicos coming in close second). the food is fresh and it’s a bargain by any measure. susana is always on site to greet you with her warm smile and as per usual, she gave me a great hug to welcome me back "home". as i enjoyed my rather delicious lunch of chicken, rice and beans, i watched all of sosua pass before me. several of the kids on the street, i’ve known for years and as a result, they feel comfortable approaching me and wanting to hang out. of course, i’ll buy them something to eat if they’re hungry and today was no exception. so me and my "kids" enjoyed susana’s dominican cuisine before i headed off in search of chicas whose photos i wanted them to have.
each year since my first trip in 2004, i have photographed the good, the bad and the sexy of sosua – and since nothing (nude) has ever appeared on the internet, the chicas all literally line up to be photographed. this year was no exception, and as i’ve done in previous years, the photos i took last year i gave away as regalos this year.
it was in plaza sosua, as i made my way down pedro clisante on this beautiful afternoon, that i ran into paola – the prima of a novia from last year. the "novia" had no idea when i was coming, but she knew i would be there soon, as i told her i come every year for my birthday and she knew my birthday quite well considering i met her fine ass on my birthday at classico’s.
but to be honest, i was trying to avoid getting "wifed-up" so soon in my vacation. not that i wanted to necessarily hit other chicks, but i like the idea of possibly having an opportunity to do so. all those dreams quickly vanished when the prima gave me a bear hug and a kiss on the cheek. then she pulled out her cell and dialed the "novia". damnit!
"el es aqui ahora mismo. ! " i didn’t hear another palabra – only "chao". paola turned to me, laughed and asked me to buy her a beer. it was 2:00pm. at 6:30pm the hotel reception called and said i had a visitor in the lobby. i took one look at her beautiful caramel skin and size 2 frame (i like the flaccas.) with incredible full breasts and nice tight ass and thought "are you crazy? " the hotel doesn’t allow guests – a plus for me – ‘cause frankly i don’t wanna be hounded 24/7 by chicas. when i wanna see ‘ them i’ll see ‘em in the streets. if they’re really cool, then i’ll go ahead and check ‘em in and they can stay in this ai with me and feast and drink and lounge by the pool in peace.
i told the receptionist she would be having dinner with me and we proceeded to the restaurant overlooking the ocean and beach. she was a little tired after the ride from san francisco de macoris and i completely understand, but i wasn’t down for checking her in – not yet anyway. i still had my regular coming from santiago on the weekend.
after dinner we proceeded to the pool area and watched stars and each others bodies as our hands explored territories clothes could barely hide. she has an incredible body and i knew i had to make a move to my room, but alas, i couldn’t so i told her to meet me tonight at the club and we’ll go from there. i gave her regalos from ny. she thanked me, gave me a nice hug and stuck a wet tongue in my ear. i immediately had to stick my hand in my shorts’ pocket (if ya know what i mean.) and watched as her cute little ass left the hotel skipping carrying a big saks fifth avenue bag.
apparently word spread fast that i was in town. as i was leaving my hotel, the world-famous julissa came speeding around the corner on her moped with blausi riding in the back. i must admit julissa is looking rather delicious these days. they both literally screamed my name and i thought to myself "these chicas eres locas. "
donde tu vas? sosua life. ven aca! ok. and so it was that i had a nice sandwich on my first night out in sosua with julissa driving and blausi offering a birthday happy hour for nada. julissa seconded it by saying she’s been knowing me for 4 years and i never sex her.
duh. exactly! they’re cool as "amigas" and definitely good for vacation laughs, but i ain’t trying to hit chicks that seen more dick in ‘em than the urinal at madison square garden. i go for the less aggressive, off the beaten path, don’t live within 20 miles of sosua chicks. and their friends.
and after arriving at sosua life i solidified my opinion. there were some serious dogs this trip. not a good selection at all. granted, i’m picky. but most of these chicks were busted. too much makeup, too many beers and not enough crunches, and if that weren’t enough, they’re not very sophisticated. subtlety goes a long way with me, and these girls obviously skipped that course at soranji’s finishing school. so like t-pain, i was with the bartender.
ms. san francisco arrived with her two cousins and we all grabbed a few presidentes. we were ushered into latino’s and seated in the "vip" section – which i didn’t like – it gave the impression that we were somehow "better" than the main crowd on the dance floor, so i kept leaving the area to dance with the crowd. in my mind, "vip" is how ya carry yourself, not where you’re seated. so i didn’t return. but the music was hot!
i instantly fell in love with this one song i believe it’s called "destination" – and it’s on some hypnotic, rhythmic and other-worldly beat tip that’s bananas! all i know is that every time it came on i had to move and so did everyone in the clubs. it’s that hot.
we made our way to classico’s which is still going strong after all these years. my usual perch is near the dance floor as i’m a dancer. i don’t go to clubs to profile, i go to move! because of this fact, in the dr, i had a plan to dance with each and every chica in sosua and tonight i had a good start with maybe 10. of course with the new hours, just as the party is getting good, it’s closing time. so i made my way with ms. sf to my second hotel – la isla bonita – 600 pesos for the night. you can’t beat it.
after downing shots of tequila with me, we were both feeling pretty nice and after removing our clothes, we were looking even better. it’s amazing how sobering the art of sex is. as usual, this 23 year old made good use of her beautiful full lips for what seemed like an eternity as she slurped and slowly licked me before demanding "fug-me" um, ok.
two hours later, we were a sweaty mess as the electricity checked out as we slept. i didn’t mind and she woke me – bad breathe and all – with a great messy bj, finishing with riding me for all she was worth, screaming "i cum! "- completely oblivious to the fact that our window was fully opened. hey, if she don’t mind, i certainly don’t. and 10 minutes later, i had her on hands and knees, ass perfectly angled as i slammed her from behind, giving her a leche stream that slowly oozed down the beautiful curve of her spine. after a quick shower, we changed and headed out to laroca for desunyuno – delicious if somewhat pricey i might add.
not that i’m superstitious or anything, but today is friday, the 13th. and after giving ms. sf dinero for a motoconcho, i returned to my hotel, hoping to head to the gym and then to the pool to bask in the sun for a few hours. two years ago i purchased the greatest gadget for my ipod – a player that has great sound capacity and is compact for travel, so needless to say, it’s a constant companion on the playa, in my room and by the pool.
well today on this 13th day of july, it decides it doesn’t want to operate. that’s right. no sound, no power. nada! damnit! of course because the player also serves a dual purpose as an ipod charger, my ipod will soon die as well. i spent the better part of the day running to puerto plata and then out to caberete in search of another player or a charger to no luck and eventually gave in to the fact that it’s not gonna happen. i did find a repair shop in charamicos that from the looks of the shop made me cringe when they said they could fix it. but after 3 days, i returned and the greasy-fingered repairman handed me my now mangled player and said "no es possible". gee, you think? ! jerk!
oh, well. i thought of my last trip to rio this past new year’s eve – when it rained practically everyday. i told my friends to look on the bright side. yeah, it’s raining, miserable weather, but we’re in rio. so i took a dose of my own medicine and said, "it’s broken, but you’re in sosua, you’re not behind your desk in manhattan. get over it". and i did. of course it helps when you have ms. santiago, calling saying "te amo" and "i’ll see you in a few hours. "
cool. now there’s some good luck.
ms. santiago and i met on my first trip and have been (in her words) "amigos con beneficios. " every since. i do have feelings for her and i believe hers for me and yet we can’t seem to get along longer than 4 or 5 days. go figure.
later in the club, i was with ms. sf and trying to delicately explain (again) that i have ms. santiago coming up to spend time with me for my birthday. understandably, she doesn’t like ms. santiago at all and views her as a serious threat. i explained that there’s no need for drama ‘cause it’s my vacation and ultimately i’m gonna do right by all parties involved. just play your role. yeah right. that went over like rosie on a pole vault.
a friend of ms. santiago came over to me at classico’s and whispered that ms. santiago was on the other side of the club. i thanked her and told ms. sf i’d be right back. i wasn’t gone 5 minutes and as i was talking to ms. santiago, ms. sf comes storming over yelling and screaming that she came up here for my birthday and ms. santiago doesn’t love you, blah, blah, blah. of course this got a lot of attention in the club – as she stormed off crying. ms. santiago tried to grab my hand saying "let’s go! " and i told her, "no. you go. "
and so i was alone. at last. i went to my bartender and asked for a shot of brugal for the road and leisurely made my way down the stairs exiting the club solo feeling like this is way more than i wanted in theatrics. several chicas passed me on my out saying "diablo", "mafioso" and other malo names with smirks on their faces, i just nodded my head, like "that’ll be me. "
just goes to show, sometimes, you can’t even be honest with ‘em. i headed to the casino where i danced with some chicas i know. i got a tap on my shoulder and turned around to be greeted by ms. santiago’s gentle kiss on the lips. i gave her a hug and she smiled mentioning how i’m always causing problems. i told her i learned from the best.
i was introduced to her girlfriends and primas and we danced ‘til 4:30am when we returned to their apartments at casa cayene. we were all done so we all crashed on one giant bed. all six of us – me and five bad-ass chicas. only in sosua! i woke up and had to move them off me as i left for my hotel. but not before ms. santiago grabbed me and off we creeped to the bathroom for a somewhat quiet quickie.
i made my way to playa sosua today for the first time this trip and incredible as this may sound, every visit feels like the very first time. it truly is a peaceful yet lively setting with a stunning view of that perpetually cloud-shrouded mt. isabel. i leisurely strolled the shore, marveling at how love has company in the international language department. laughter – a child’s laughter in particular. it’s probably the purest form of shameless self-expression there is. it made my day and i pulled out my camera in an attempt to capture a glimpse of their joyous revelry.
after strolling the entire length of playa sosua, i returned to sit in my boy’s section and immediately ordered fried fish, french fries and a cold cola. as usual, the food and the sun were very satisfying and relaxing and before long, i was dozing. off. to. sl.
my cell phone’s vibration buzzed me back from a rather lengthy sueno and i answered half groggy as ms. santiago wanted to know where i was and why wasn’t i with her. i ended a rather sexy call by telling her i’ll see her tonight at sosua life.
fred jackson is my boy. love him to death. i first met him in 2004 at voodoo lounge when he and i sang the temptations’ classic "my girl". it’s so rare to find someone at one of these karaoke places who actually can sing that we both hit it off instantly. in subsequent years fred went on to open and run the sosua life bar opposite classico’s and since last year he owns a nice little spot further down pedro clisante from la passion’s called cubre libre bar.
i had been in sosua for two days, so i knew it was high-time i made my appearance. i came in and as usual marveled at his ability to hire some of the sexiest (if unreliable and untrustworthy) bartenders in sosua. i quickly ordered a cold one and gave a few of his bartenders photos i took of them last year on the beach in cabarete.
i invited fred out for my birthday celebration and he mentioned he would stop by classico’s. as is his custom, he invited me out for a picnic on my birthday with several of his bartenders and his novia. how could i say no? it’s on.
i left with a promise to see him soon and headed back down pedro clisante where of course i had to see the work peter is doing in lapassion’s. it’s a good look! although the pool had no water, its location and the willingness of the ladies to display what one could touch while basking in it, made it all worthwhile. one cutie took me by the hand and gave me a guided tour, removing her hand from mine when we were alone to grab another digit. i wasn’t complaining. but i told her i had to get going and that i’d see her again.
as i walked along the street returning to sbts, i heard my name called from a dark entrance to what appeared to be a deserted bar. i glanced inside and saw mimosa. the loca haitiana that in previous trips was a highlight of any trip for me. she nearly squeezed the life out of me before grilling me for not stopping by sooner (she heard i was in town). i honestly had no idea where to find her. as we talked the cutest of kids came out from the back and she introduced him to me as her son from some dude who she says has no part in his or her life anymore. interesting. but she seems to have adjusted well to motherhood. who’d thought that? before i became too impressed with her parenting skills, she excitedly told me she’ll be at the clubs, as she has to be on my dance card. sounds like a plan. with that i gave her a kiss and kept it moving.
at the club it was all good as i watched and felt sorta sad for ms. sf looking desperate trolling the bars with her cousins in a straight line, weaving thru the crowd like some misery train looking for somewhere to derail. i later found her in the company of some dude and as she walked past me, she rolled her eyes ‘til she went to sleep and i laughed.
i partied with ms. santiago and a slew of other sosua regulars and watched my back as the clock struck midnight. if you don’t know, i’ll tell you what someone didn’t tell me 2 years ago. dominican tradition states that when it’s someone’s birthday, their "regalo" comes in the form of a cold cerveza poured over the head. and for someone like me who’s sportin’ designer clothes, that ain’t the coolest prospect in the world. they got me that one year, but i’ll be damned if i’m drenched and smelling like a distillery for the remainder of the night. luckily the dj gave me a shout-out and the chicas gave me hugs and kisses and the chicos gave me high-fives! now, we’re talking
dude looks like a lay-day. ! i live in new york, a place packed with all kinds of different people with alternative lifestyles, and yet somehow, someway it all works – for the most part. we live and let live here. i said that to say that gays, cross-dressers and transvestites are not that big of a deal here. they’re everywhere and it’s a price you pay for living in this great, liberal, artistic metropolis.
sosua, this eternal yet ever changing ho-asis, now apparently has a market for babes with balls for i counted at least 5 dudes that were in full drag and were almost always busy with clients. i’m making mention of it, ‘cause two of them were friends with ms. santiago and her girls, so i was introduced and subsequently took pix of them. they were cool. a riot in fact. but there’s no way in hell any dude in their right mind could ever think they were anything but (biological) men. in other words, it isn’t what it isn’t.
one of them had to be about 6’ 5" and had on high heels to boot! and no matter where i was dancing, "she" somehow ended up dancing next to me. of course, i would speak and after a few days, she was stopping by to say hola. it was on one of these occasions at the casino that as i’m shaking her (rather large) hand to say "hola" that she pulls me in closer to say "i like you. " yikes! i politely told her i understand and respect who and what you are but i don’t get down like that. she stood up, flipped her hair and said "que lastima" (what a pity) and walked off. yeah, you go, girl.
hunger of course is a beast that is best dealt with swiftly and luckily there’s a guy right outside the casino who’s serving up some pretty good grub. of course i’d never eat off a cart in the middle of midtown manhattan, but at 4:30am, my defense is pretty weak, particularly when a cutie haitian has been eyeing me (with ms. santiago) all night. as i’m investigating what’s cooking that’s smelling so good, i go for funds, and wouldn’t you know it, mr. big spender has 200 pesos – enough for a motoconcho and nada mas. i’m not one for the atm machines at this hour, so i guess my curiosity will have to wait for my dinero to catch up.
not so fast. as i was turning to leave, a cutie that i had seen a few times said in her broken english "why you don’t wanna try? it’s good". i honestly told her ‘cause i’m broke’. taking a break from devouring their sandwiches, and without missing a beat, this girl made my night. she motioned to her girls who nodded in agreement. "we looky you pay muchas cervesas for everybody, so we buy for your birthday. "
now there’s a first. ok, bueno. not sure how they knew it was my birthday, but i ended up spending another 20 minutes with them sitting outside laughing and talking until ms. santiago came out and saw us. oh, boy. i calmed her ass down by saying "give piece a chance" and gave her a few bites of my delicious sandwich.
we all piled into a taxi and i spent the night at ms. santiago’s and struggled to sleep against the apparent wishes of a rather animated rooster outside the window at 11:30am who refused to accept the fact that dawn had long since passed!
i got up and made my way back to sbts. as i made my way to the coffee machine, i noticed some of the guests staring with a look of "where the hell is he coming from? " i eventually approached a nice couple from london and introduced myself and asked if they’d like to see the "real" sosua.
a co-worker of mine called me a week before i came down and told me he was making his first trip to sosua – at the same time i’d be there! so i had him book a room two doors down from me and when he arrived, i took him on the grand tour, explaining how in my mind’s eye, sosua is a mini-manhattan. it’s an international party town with many people from all walks of life, engaged in all forms of activities. the motoconchos are manhattan’s yellow taxis. hell now it’s even turned fab-you-lus with all the rupauls running around. not to mention, it’s crowded, noisy yet lovable in its own unique way. just like my neck of the woods.
it was interesting to watch someone’s first view of sosua thru their eyes. and to hear that infamous question – "they’re all prostitutes"? ! yes, and you’re fresh meat, buddy.
ms. santiago had to return to santiago (hot damn! ) later that night while out solo, ms. sf saw me again and this time she sadly eased up beside me and gave me a kiss under the chin and i gave her a hug. i’m not mad at her, but she’s – really all dominicanas. have this childish view of relationships. particularly when i know she’s in the game, even if it’s on a part-time basis. she said she was tired, and didn’t want to be with anybody but me and that she was going home. i told her i’d call her tomorrow and kissed her goodbye.
the following day i met fred and picked up ms. sf and we all headed out to eat in caberete. it was a cool outing until ms. sf showed a side of her that damn-near had me ready to pull an "oj". long story short? i don’t like mayo. i had a plate of fries that i would dip into katsup. ms. sf thought it nice to offer me a fry she had dipped in mayo, i told her "no me gusta, gracias" and as i continued talking to fred, ms. sf took another mayo-dipped fry and put it in my open mouth. ok, ha, ha – really funny. i playfully put her in a headlock and continued talking. 10 seconds later, she did it again! what the? ! "what part of ‘i don’t like mayo’ didn’t you understand? " "i’m serious. cut it out. " she laughed and i got pissed. i continued to talk and as i’m talking she takes a french fry dips it in mayo and makes like an airplane and does dives close to my face. i’m ready to knock her the hell out. fred and his girl are in shock like this chica is loca. she eventually eats that one as i stopped talking now and i’m only barely containing my anger as my hand is visibly shaking.
five seconds later she takes another fry loads it with mayo and smears it on my burger. i looked at her with disgust and thought of smashing that burger up her nose, but then i didn’t want to be the ugly american making a scene in a restaurant. so i got up and left the table and walked the beach for 20 minutes to calm down. when i returned she’s all crying with the "lo sientos – es bromas". in plain english i told her "fuck you! "; yet i don’t hold grudges so by the time we returned to sosua, i was fingering her in the backseat with plans on fucking her back at la isla bonita. but now i see that’s all we’ll have in common, i can’t roll with a kindergartener.
i left her there and headed back to the hotel where i met my buddy for a few drinks at the bar before heading out with the london couple in tow. all three of them were scared to try the motoconchos – and who can blame them. but i reassured them it’s the quickest way around town. if he’s going too fast, tell him to ease up a little, very simple.
once at the club, ms. sf arrived with her cousin looking her usual stunning (but boring) self. i greeted them and as we chilled she became increasingly irritated at the prospect of ms. santiago having my ai bracelet from the hotel and was perplexed why she didn’t have one this year as well. i told her it was too much of a hassle and with that she starts ranting that i love ms. santiago and not her and that i should be with her and how she came here for me. i tuned her out and she stormed away. whatever. her loss. i was very decent and patient with her crazy, spoiled ass. and finally, for the first time this trip it was me, myself and my boy! no hassles, no petty jealousies – just babe ogling.
ms. sandwich from the casino came in with her girls and gave me the hugs and kisses and of course i had to buy her a drink and take her photos. we hung out and ended up at classico’s dancing salsa ‘til they kicked us out (god i hate the new closing times.) just when the party is jumping it’s closing time and it takes a minute for the party to build the momentum it had at classico’s in the casino, but what can we do?
while dancing by myself – as i sometimes tend to do – within a minute, chicas always come near. tonight was no exception. this gorgeous thick girl with a black hat and black gloves – looking like alicia keyes came grinding up behind me – "hola. ms. keyes". she laughed and began frantically moving her hips as i tried in vein to keep pace. damn she was hot. i usually go for the chicks in the featherweight category, but this one could definitely get it!
i told her the club was about to close and she should ride with me to the casino and vamos – we headed out. in the backseat i asked could i see those boobs that were hypnotizing dudes in the clubs and she gladly whipped the most perfectly shaped carmel colored globes out for my viewing pleasure. i immediately placed my tongue on the nipple and sucked and gently bit them for the duration of the trip to the casino. every so often i’d stop to kiss her. i hope the driver was paying real close attention to the road, ‘cause everybody else was all in our lustful party.
it was getting late, i was tired and she was ready to go. but i knew i had no energy ‘cause i was gonna go horseback riding in the morning. when i told her she said "you can ride me. " and then she turned around, took off her hat and let her long hair down and offered it to me as though it were reigns. cute. she has a sense of humor, but i’ll pass. i got her number and told her i’d call. and to this day i’m regretting that i didn’t get with her. oh well.
the next day i was up and out by 8:30am for a tour of the country side on horseback. for those who’ve never done it, i highly recommend it! it’s a six-hour excursion that includes a tour of a barrio with live music on a farm as well as touring the mountainous regions of dr with stops for a swim in a natural lake with waterfalls, drinks and a big home-cooked meal at the end. all for $60. 00 us. i did it for the first time last year and made it a promise to do it each year. it’s organized by chiquino and he can be found near sbts and its beach.
of course when we returned i was so drained i just jumped in the jacuzzi to relax the muscles and chill. all and all this is a good vacation. drama? sure. petty chicas? claro. but time spent with them is still priceless in comparison to bs nyc chicks.
my amiga who met me at the airport called and said she wanted to come up to sosua for another visit before i leave. ok. so she arrived early the next day at 9:00am and i met her in the lobby and took her to the pool where we chilled out and talked with my boy from new york. she was hungry and i was pretty much done with the food at sbts, so we made our way to la roca (i wanted susana’s but she didn’t wanna be bothered with folks on that end of the calle) she was sporting my regalo and it looked great on her! she loved it (of course) and said she wouldn’t lose it – like she’s done to other rather expensive gifts in the past.
after more small talk, it was time for her to take the bus back home and so we loaded her into my boy’s car and drove her to her stop and i gave her a big hug and kiss goodbye and she flashed that smile that lights up any room and said "chao chao". it was sooo good to see her. no matter what, she will be with me one way or another for the rest of my life.
when i returned ms. santiago called saying that she heard i was with a lot of girls. "y"? of course i’m dancing and flirting, but i ain’t hitting these girls and she knows it. but it’s good drama – so here we go again. i told her to get her ass up here and she can find out who i wanna get with. she laughed and said she’ll see me in 4 hours. cool.
i told reception as i wanted her to stay with me in my hotel tonight.
ms. fashion plate arrived with the heaviest of suitcases for one night. i’m like who’d you kill and stuff in here? "it’s makeup, sweetie. " ok. we stayed in our room and made up for lost time for a few hours and as usual, my toes were sufficiently curled and i was ready for the night. after changing, we headed out and met her cousins/friends and partied like rock stars – totally dude.
i made my rounds around the club and said my gracias and adios to my folks and made it back to the hotel by 4:30am where me and ms. santiago attempted to beat our own world record for consecutive orgasms. for the record it’s 5 in 7 hours.
after checking out, i pulled a few tables together at the hotel restaurant and ms. santiago, the london couple, another couple from birmingham, england, my boy from new york and the manager of sbts had a goodbye brunch together and it was a nice way to say so long ‘til next year to one of my favorite destinations in the entire world.
i left from sti airport and ms. santiago rode with me – that road is no joke. i’d never do that at night, but it is stunning. very colorful with rich vistas in every direction. we talked for the first hour, but soon the drive thru the mountains got the best of us and we were knocked out until we arrived in noisy santiago. she made a stop to show me her very lovely apartment and then we were off to the airport some 20 minutes away.
i thanked her for another great trip and as they announced my flight she started with the tears. god i hate that part. but she knows i’ll be back. i always come back. and how could i not? for it is what vacations are made for. to vacate your normal everyday life and few places allow you an opportunity for pleasure on so many levels like mi sosua.
it is indeed a good life. yo amo sosua.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
YESSSSS ive been to the DR maybe 18 times my passport says, but everytime I used to go it was to monger never to entertain a normal girl. Moved on to bigger and better things and know go once or twice a year. Perla de sosua seems quite nice where is it located? near HALIGALI? or Behind, like near Verizon? I did a google and all im getting is brokers, Id rather go through the owner directly if anybody has the number. Ive been and seen many German families stay at europa maybe I can trick her? lol I just like DIEGO and KNOW what im getting, but willing and able for a change. REGARDS!
Perla de Sosua Apartment Hotel - Tel: 809 49 49 834.
Talk to Hans.
No it is located behind the NEW Banco Popular, down a quiet cul-de-sac, very close to the beach. Close to mini supermarket, pharmacy, Morua Mai restaurant, etc.
If this phone number gets deleted, then look on the sosuatoday.com Web site for the number.
MiamiHeatLuver
08-13-07, 18:11
Perla de Sosua Apartment Hotel - Tel: 809 49 49 834.
Talk to Hans.
No it is located behind the NEW Banco Popular, down a quiet cul-de-sac, very close to the beach. Close to mini supermarket, pharmacy, Morua Mai restaurant, etc.
If this phone number gets deleted, then look on the sosuatoday.com Web site for the number.
Thanks alot Frannie! Have you heard of Hotel Cayena as well?
Thanks alot Frannie! Have you heard of Hotel Cayena as well?
I have heard of it, but I don't know anything about it.
Thanks alot Frannie! Have you heard of Hotel Cayena as well?Nice hotel, but not cheap by Sosua standards. I will be there August 16th for my second stay there.
DR Monger II
08-13-07, 23:21
Twohands, thats such a great report. It's too bad that a non speaking spanish person like me can't have that experience :(
[QUOTE=Twohands]La Vida Buena.
After 8 trips to Sosua in less than 4 years I not only anticipate but have adapted to certain rituals – you know, quirky things that only seem to occur on vacations to this slice of heaven, like gorgeous bartenders who wrap Presidentes in cute little napkin "skirts", blackouts practically everyday and the most pleasant. Dealing with less than solid waste management issues during bathroom visits. So it was with anxious anticipation that I gladly participated in another DR custom as the wheels screeched to a rolling stop beneath my seat on this AA flight from Miami.
BEST EVER ! I totally subscribe to your views when it comes to Sosua!
I'll be there again for the second half of Sept with my best pal.
Anyone for a Presidente?
Have stayed there two or three times over past four months. Nice hotel but runs about $65 a night. The beds are like double king size which is great for sex but many rooms have mediocre a/see units. Pool is great and included breakfast is good. Staff is very helpful and friendly. Last time I was there I left after one day because there was a blackout and they did not have a planta for backup electricity. Last time I checked there was still a problem with the planta.
Crossfire1
08-16-07, 00:32
Wow Twohands, your reputation preceeds you. Although we have never met. I feel like I know you. Why? Because from reading your post I know that we are fucking the same Chica. You see Yo tengo una amiga de Santiago tambien. Her name is "A". She speaks fluent english, brown skin, 5'3", flaca, linda, has 2 cell phones (one ending 144 and the other ending 045), one child and has her own 1st floor apartment in Santiago. Shall I go own. What gave it a way? She also tells me that we are "Amigos con beneficios." She always tries to wife me when I'm in town and dosen't like me to be with others and I have had simmillar drama in the club before with her. She is good people though and I talk to her to this day.
In the pass when ever I would come to Sosua an not tell her I was coming her friends in Sosua would always call her in Santiago and let her know I was in town and she would be pissed. This time one of my amigas saw her in town with you and my amiga even told me your real name wich I will not mention on the board.
It is funny to see you post your story here. Because I heard about the drama and your friend meeting you at the airport even before you posted any of this and we have never meet and I have not been in Sosua for months. You are truly a legend and very popular with all the chicas in Sosua. I'm glad you had a nice time.
PS: It is good to read reports like yours because, no matter how far from Sosua and how far off the trail a chica is you have to remember --Once a chicas has been to Sosua there will always be other guys fucking her and you are never her "Only special friend." Things like this help to keep one grounded.
Hey guys,
I'm headed to Pop, Sosua, and Santiago at he end of my trip. This is my first visit to this area. I will be leaving at the later part of October and will sty in Blue Bay for two nights, 4 nights at BB, 3 night at Garden Inn, and spent a night in Santiago prior to my departure from STI. I plant to sty at the Court Yard Marriott Santiago near the air port. I will be renting a car during my trip. I need some advise from you rookies.
Is anything going on at Blue Bay Adult Resort?
I have a TOMTOM GPS, does it work out there?
Where can I find or purchase paper map of Santiago?
Is renting a car a good Idea?
Is Platinum Castle in Santiago open?
Any suggestions on nightclubs (both pro and non-pro). If anyone else is in town and wants to meet up for a beer, let me know.
Does anyone know a better way to get a room reservation other than the hotel's email on their website? I have tried to contact them 2 or 3 times, but no one is responding. Thank you.
Viper10
Does anyone know a better way to get a room reservation other than the hotel's email on their website? I have tried to contact them 2 or 3 times, but no one is responding. Thank you.
Viper10Diego can be a little slow on responding to e mails it took him a week or so last year to get back to me. If you don, t feel like waiting call him aroud 10am or so he is usualy there around that time.
Good luck,
Don
Hey guys,
I'm headed to Pop, Sosua, and Santiago at he end of my trip. This is my first visit to this area. I will be leaving at the later part of October and will sty in Blue Bay for two nights, 4 nights at BB, 3 night at Garden Inn, and spent a night in Santiago prior to my departure from STI. I plant to sty at the Court Yard Marriott Santiago near the air port. I will be renting a car during my trip. I need some advise from you rookies.
Is anything going on at Blue Bay Adult Resort?
I have a TOMTOM GPS, does it work out there?
Where can I find or purchase paper map of Santiago?
Is renting a car a good Idea?
Is Platinum Castle in Santiago open?
Any suggestions on nightclubs (both pro and non-pro). If anyone else is in town and wants to meet up for a beer, let me know.
Mat,
I've never been to the Blue Bay, but I know you can buy a nice map from the rental car counter in STI (I got mine from National)-- leave the Tom Tom safe at home. I personally like renting a car. They are relatively cheap if you reserve on line a head of time and its nice to have the option to drive around.
Have fun.
MC
PartyPoooper
08-23-07, 02:34
Anyone know where there is a gym/workout facilities in Sosua?
Cost? Location?
I would like some alternate exercise beside the chicachanga!
Thanks.
Member #2128
08-23-07, 09:23
Yeah, I too loved the free-flowing report delivered by TWO HANDS. It brings back the Sosua Life, although his is a lot different than mine. I don't dance. Or buy cervezas for the table. But it was good to hear about his gang of jealous and loca chicas. Some of them he mentioned were like hearing about "old friends" from the High School reunion you weren't able to attend.
Especially touching was hearing about one of my favorite Haitiana amigas, MIMOSA. I did her several times on several evenings....all from the rear when she was VERY pregnant with the little boy Two Hands mentioned. He must be about a year old now! She was a total character and I didn't believe any of what she told me. At the time, she was very involved with the Dad and was sneaking around so he, or anyone else wouldn't see her going off to f*ck a tourist. Hooking up with her was like working undercover for the CIA. All part of the play (the good part that is) that is Sousua.
Two-Hands, thanks for sharing your great "vacate-ion" with those of us who are stuck (for the moment) in our 9-5's.
Until my next POP landing,
#2128
Anyone know where there is a gym/workout facilities in Sosua?
Cost? Location?
I would like some alternate exercise beside the chicachanga!
Thanks.
There are two gyms to my knowledge. One is is on the road leading to the beach a few doors down from the "orange" store next to banco popular. I think its called angel gym or something like that. The other is across the main highway not far from rockys(maybe ask there). I think this is the better one. Sorry I dont have a name for you.
I believe the name is Golden Park Gym. The gym opens at 6 or 7 am - 9pm and I understand it is very busy for first hour or two, and then in late afternoon and evening. Equipment is well maintained and clients are mostly serious. No misbehavior problems that I have ever observed or heard about. Lots of Dominicans, of course, but also good foreign representation.
Lots of equipment, a surprising amount, in fact.
I'm not sure if it's open now since so many business open up and close down in Sosua ex.. Club X.
I do know this a friend of mine went to the gym a while back then he took one of the chicas / gym members out to dinner that night. He stayed with her for the next 3 days, I guess he didn't break the three day rule.
Cunning Linguist
08-24-07, 09:50
I was in Sosúa around the first week in August. It was certainly an experience and did not turn out the way that I thought, but, then again, I had no way of knowing how it would turn out so I am not complaining in the least.
I learnt a lot of things about Haitian culture, Dominican culture and. About myself. I will be sending a series of reports to fulfil a promise to member #2128 and to give possible advice.
All in all, I found that speaking Spanish was not only an asset, it was absolutely fundamental to have the experiences that I did have. Knowing Some of the bars had German menus out front, even Dutch. I made my way as far as Passions and then headed towards the opposite direction. I spotted some very hot chicks, all Black, along the way. Eventually I went past Bar Central in anticipation of seeing some Haitians but, at around 4, the bars are largely empty. At that time, the action is definitely at the beach and so that is where I headed. I was determined to find Siempre Sol. Calle Pedro Clisante eventually forks into a street, chocked full of shops and manicure joints and takes you to the beach.
The beach has an endless array of shops that sell, well, touristy knickkacks and junk. There are also some cigar shops and, of course, numerous beach bars. I looked an looked for Siempre Sol but, for some reason, I couldn't find it. In the meantime, I saw this knockout black girl with Lacoste sunglasses. I looked at her, she looked at me but, for some reason, I was too shy to approach her. I was also afraid that she might be too young.
Eventually, after asking around, I did find Siempre Sol and that is where I met Herman. Herman is a very nice, personable Dutchman from Haarlem with a beautiful tan and a likeable disposition. He is at his bar all day and is a great conversationalist. He was with some other Dutchmen. I was able to speak to him in reasonable, albeit simple Dutch and that made him happy.
There was also a German there named Max who quaffing down a great many Presidentes. Max was also with a nice black Dominican girl. Max spoke to me in German and sometimes in English. In spite of his being bilingual, he was unable to talk with his new Dominican flame since she knew only Spanish and he didn't I had to translate for him. As Max downed one Presidente after another, he grew more philosophical. He confided that the Dominican girls liked him but didn't love him.
I started to down a few brewskis of my own and I developed a keen liking to Presidentes. At Herman's bar, they give you a kind of bamboo mug which holds the bottle of beer. I usually prefer my beer out of a mug but, for some reason, I liked that solution. Herman's waitress was a rather pretty mulata.
I stayed there for 2 or 3 hours. I honestly never get drunk but perhaps my intake of Presidentes clouded my judgement more that I would have liked. A black Dominican woman came to sit at the table and started gazing at me and smiling. She was certainly no beauty but, after a few beers, she started to look better and better. She couldn't talk. She was a mute. She could only grunt out some words. Finally, she propositioned me by sticking her finger into her fist. I thought, maybe she might not be a beauty but she probably can screw like a minx. Surprisingly, I accepted her offer. I must have been out of mind, incredibly stuped or besozzled by too many Presidentes or all of the above.
We walked to the hotel and she kept smiling and laughing. NO one carded her at the hotel and we sent straight to the room. We showered together but then I realized that she was a starfish kind. She was also shaved below which is really a turnoff for me. The sex was rather mechanical. Her face was unmoveable. For me it is hard to get off when the girl is obviously not enjoying it. Eventually, my hard-on lost its vigour and that is when she called it quits. At least she allowed me to take some pictures.
Our arrangement was 1, 500 pesos. I know, 1000 would have been better but, hey, I was a newbie. I gave her 2000 pesos and asked for change. She pretended that she didn't understand but that is when my Spanish won the day. I told her, "Oye, que no me tomes por tonto porque no lo soy. Hemos hecho un trato y se acabó. No vas a jugar conmigo. (Hey, don't take me for a fool because I'm not and that's that. No games with me).
I slowly took a thousand out of her hand (leaving the other thousand with her) and opened my room safe and fished out a 500 peso note. She seemed to be angry but I stuck to my guns. She then demanded 200 pesos for a motoconcho but, thanks to this fine forum, I gave her 50 pesos saying, ""Mira chica, ya sé por donde van los tiros. Estoy bien informado y sé muy bien cuánto vale un motoconcho. Con esto basta y ya está (Look girl, I know the ropes here. I'm well informed and I know very well how much a motoconcho costs). She quickly give in. She even walked out of the hotel room with me and down Calle Dr. Rosen until it ran into Calle Pedro Clisante. There we parted. Thank goodness. I felt cheated and frustrated.
I hung a right and went to Bar Central. By chance, Max was there and I was certainly glad to see him. Eventually, a friendly black girl sat down next to me and started chatting. I asked her "Eske ou se ayitiyen? (Are you Haitian? ). She gleefully replied, Me wi, mwen se ayitien. I told her "M'ap aprann kreyòl e m'renmen moun ayitiyen yo. (I'm learning Kreyòl and I like Haitians) She was shocked but quite happy. She really wasn't my type. I really don't go for the painted eyebrow look that so many there seem to relish. However, we continued to talk. She was joined by other Haitian girls. I invited them all to a Presidente.
One of them I took a liking to, Jackeline. She told me that she was 23 and worked at a photography shop. She was quite well-dressed. Eventually, the painted-eyebrow girl realized that I like Jackeline. We sat down at a restaurant but they didn't want a pizza. The painted-eyebrow girl just asked me for some money for a meal somewhere else. I gave her 150 pesos and Jackeline and I were alone. Eventually, Jackeline and I drifted towards Spanish since Jackeline's Spanish, though full of grammatical flaws, was still better than my Creole. She had a 6 year old son and lived somewhere in betweeen Puerto Plata and Sosúa.
Eventually, I worked up the courage to invite her to my hotel room. I always told her that she didn't have to if she didn't want to. She replied that she never did anything she didn't want to and say that she would be glad to. We headed to the hotel room. My second girl in the same evening. Amazing for me. We talked and I asked her about what she wanted in life, what she liked to do in general. She told me that she didn't like to go to bars very much, especially ones like Clássico.
She was sitting in a chair and I was sitting on the bed. Eventually she sat next to me on the bed and with time, she lay with me. I started to stroke her and she seemed to like it. Eventually one thing led to another and we started getting it on. She was so much better than Yossi and although she had a landing strip on her mons Veneris, at least she wasn't completely bald there. I went down south on her, Really, black pussies are fascinating for me. Their normally beautiful chocolate skin constrasts nicely with jet black labia minora (pussy lips for the masses) but then when the vulva is opened up, the contrast is even more arousing when the deep pinkness of their slit. (I am also fascinated by Oriental labia minora in which their honey-coloured skin constrasts with very dark pussy lips) I really prefer those kind of pussies to the pink labia minora of most Caucasians.
Eventually, I shot my bolt (I always use condoms, needless to say). After a while, Jackeline said that she had to go home to be with her kid. I gave her 2000 pesos and told her it was for her kid, not for the sex. She replied, "of course". I told her I wanted to see her the following day and she said she was game. I felt happy that night. I felt that I had successfully seduced a girl that I liked.
To be continued
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Mat,
I've never been to the Blue Bay, but I know you can buy a nice map from the rental car counter in STI (I got mine from National)-- leave the Tom Tom safe at home. I personally like renting a car. They are relatively cheap if you reserve on line a head of time and its nice to have the option to drive around.
Have fun.
MCThe blue Bay getway villas is an absolute nightmare. Looks gorgeous from the outside but hides alot of issues on the inside. Stayed there while they were renovating few months back. No running water for 4 hours. Lamps in room not plugged into outlets. DUH, because there werent enough outlets... Power outages on a regular basis. BS licquor. Tje list goes on an on. do yourself a favor and look elsewhere. Windham or Dorado club.
Member #2128
08-25-07, 07:31
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist
I learnt a lot of things about Haitian culture, Dominican culture and. About myself. I will be sending a series of reports to fulfil a promise to member #2128 and to give possible advice.
To be continued [QUOTE]
Hey C.Linguist,
You be da' man! Thanks for not flaking out, but instead fulfilling your promise to post a detailed report of your adventures. And what a terrific report it is so far---filled with familiar, local Sosua color, verbatim conversations, chica descriptions, personal musings, and story. Especially story, like a novelist's diary. I especially liked your thoughts about the anatomy of the black pussy. Have you had any encounters or any thoughts about the thicker clitoris' which are also often on the Haitian menu? CunningLengua, I was tasting it, as I visualized the various labia described....that which is but a memory, here now roused by your report!
I almost fell of my chair when I heard of your encounter with the deaf mute! She was a familiar fixture on the beach and often at the clubs in the evening when I was last in Sosua almost one year ago. While not a beauty, she was kinda cute and had a sweet little body with those two dimples, on each side and above the butt, but below the waist, that little hotties often have...if you notice this sort of detail. I was sad to hear that she was a stone in bed. On the beach she was always quite provocative, displaying the length of her tongue and exposing her perky little breasts for a smile and a wink. I never made the commitment to give her a pop and a mil and afterwards I always felt she was unfinished business. I feel a bit better now.
You sound like you conducted your business like a first class gentlemen among
the puta, being respectful of their personal and emotional needs as well as their financial ones. I'm looking forward to seeing how that worked out. Or perhaps, if you "wife-up" with the second chica, the Haitian honey, and miss out on the smorgasboard that keeps revealing itself at each new sunrise.
I am now looking forward to your next episode! Do not delay!
Oh, BTW, if I remember correctly....a 1-way motoconcho in town is 20 pesos, not 50. <smile>
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Mr Enternational
08-25-07, 07:59
Wow Twohands, your reputation preceeds you. Although we have never met. I feel like I know you. Why? Because from reading your post I know that we are fucking the same Chica.
Wow. There must be something going around in Sosua. Just the other day me and my wingman (we have never been in Sosua together) just found out we were fucking the same freebie as well. He was showing me the pics in his camera and he said, "This is the one from Santo Domingo that I was telling you about." I replied, "That is the one from Santo Domingo that I was telling you about too!"
Cunning Linguist
08-25-07, 10:54
First of all, thanks for the interest in my reports and apology for some of the typos. I have looked through this one and, hopefully, it has been cleaned up. I will answer all comments to these reports soon. Here goes the report for my Saturday (s)exploits in Sosúa
Saturday
I slowly dragged myself out of bed, left the New Garden Hotel and headed to the Orange phone shop where I bought a SIM card. Luckily, information from this forum told me to bring along my passport which was necessary for the purchase. I paid 300 pesos and now I was armed with a local cell phone.
I headed out to Herman's place. I grew to really like that place. I t was not only my watering hole, it was my comfort zone. I felt like I was at home there. I met more people there including a very interesting Dutchman named Frederick who actually lived in Sosúa, developing real estate there.
There was a mulatto girl at Herman's bar named Ana who was helping Herman's waitress but she wasn't actually working for the Dutchman. Hmmm. It makes you wonder. A few girls came by and sat with us, including Yossi (the name of the deaf mute that, much to my chagrin and embarrassment, I had bonked the day before) whom I strenuously ignored. A beautiful mulatto girl in a bikini with American stars and stripes came over and sat at our table. I talked to her a bit. I strayed from a Presidente to some wine and, in a moment of carelessness, I spilt wine all over my trousers. I reluctantly excused myself and sheepishly headed back to my hotel and changed. I immediately took my trousers to a local laundry to be washed, and pressed. Very good service and one of the few things that were cheaper in Sosúa than in Thailand.
I made my way back to Herman's. Ana told me that the beautiful mulatto girl seemed to like me a lot. Wow, I thought. She was only 18. In the meantime, I called Jackeline on my cell phone and told her where I was at. Eventually Jackeline showed up. Jackeline told me that she couldn't be with me that night as she had to go to a birthday party. Ana heard this and when Jackeline wasn't looking, told me that she would call me and we could go out. Wow, I thought.
Eventually Jackeline and I left and she asked me if I would accompany her to a manicure shop. I thought, why not? It was located on the street going down to the beach. Inside, all of the women were Haitians and so I was entertained by listening to them speak. Then an Italian walked in and it turned out that he was the actual owner of the joint. Apparently, one of the Haitian manicurists was his wife (or honey, significant-other, concubine, or something to that effect). We talked in Italian which the girls could not understand at all despite the obvious similarity to Spanish but, then again, they were yapping away in Kreyòl which we understood just a bit. The Italian was also interested in learning Kreyòl and showed me his word lists. He told me that he bummed around and was not interested in living the conventional lifestyle in Italy. He eventually made his way to Sosúa and has been there ever since.
In the meantime, I got a call from Ana telling me that she was getting bored at Siempre Sol and was really looking forward to meeting me. "Que me estoy aburriendo aquí, mi amor" (I'm getting bored here, my love") she said, forcefully and coyly. She told me to meet her at "La Bomba" at 9:30 p. M.
In the meantime, Jackeline was jabbering away in her native tongue with her friends as they were doing rather weird things to all twenty of her nails. Unsurprisingly, when they were finished, Jackeline then announced to me that the price of the manicure job was 250 pesos. I told the Italian guy in Italian that I knew this was going to happen and we laughed it off.
I was getting hungry. My stomach was gnawing and demanding some attention. As I was afraid of the hygiene or lack thereof at most Sosúa eateries, I took to a high-beer, low-food diet. I essentially ate just once a day while I was there. That might not work for most but it worked for me. I even lost some weight.
In any case, as I hadn't eaten that day, and seeing that it was getting towards 4 or 5, I decided to invite Jackeline to a fine restaurant which turned out to be "Morua Mai". Although the food was not up to my high standards, it was good enough, especially in view of the old adage "hunger makes the best sauce". Jackeline seemed to like it though she played rather coy with me.
After dinner, I walked Jackeline to a motoconcho as she was determined to attend that "birthday party" and I headed towards "La Bomba". I thought "La Bomba" was a bar. Eventually, I stopped a Dominican man in the street and asked him where ""La Bomba" was. The man, who told me his name was Eduardo, was kind enough to accompany there. He really like my Castilian Spanish and enjoyed listening to it. Dominicans really seem to like Spaniards even though they seem to have adopted a lot of American ways (baseball, electric plugs, etc.) I came to realize that "La Bomba" meant gas station in Dominican Spanish (in Spain they are called "gasolineras").
Ana, true to her word.. An amazing feat for most Sosúa girls.. Showed up. We went to a couple of concession stands in the street and had a couple of beers. Then Ana asked me whether I wanted to go to the casino. I replied, why. Why not? We both got on a motoconcho and off we went, through the darkness of the tropical Dominican night, until we arrived at a Third-World style casino, complete with gun-toting security guards. Of course, I paid for the ride. That is when I discovered that it was 20 pesos and not 50 pesos for a motoconcho ride. Chalk another one up for that mute Yossi and her deft, money-grubbing ways.
The casino was certainly not in the league of the likes of Las Vegas, to be sure, but, for a place such as Sosúa, it was a nice atmosphere to be in. Ana was really into roulette. Her eyes lit up, her spirit lifted, her demeanour perked. I gave her a thousand pesos to bet with and she really went to town. Boy was she ever keen at it. However, she lost most of the thousand and so I gave 500 pesos more. We switched tables and then she started winning. And winning. And winning. In the meantime, there were free drinks for the participants and even though I was not moving the chips, I was bankrolling the operation and so I had as many wines as I could possibly want. Eventually, Ana had accumulated over 3, 500 pesos in chips. Every time she won, she would give me a big kiss. And that was quite a few times. One time, she even blurted out that we were going to go "algunas cositas sucias" (little dirty things) after this was all over. I was looking forward to when it would be all over. In the meantime, I got a call from Jackeline. She told me she was at "Classicos". Hmm, me thinks, perhaps she had forgotten that she had told me the day before that she didn't like such places. What was she doing there? Besides, she she had told me that she simply had to be all evening at the birthday party. It didn't sound right to me. After I hung up, I turned my phone off. Ana seemed to be a more viable if not more voluptuous option.
Ana and I continued gaming. And drinking. Going from one table to another. Then, suddenly, it all came to a crashing end. Apparently, the casino staff decided that Ana was winning way too much and told her to leave. The gorilla-like casino guards were rather kind to me but were looking daggers at Ana. I thought it best not to contest anything. We cashed in our chips and I generously told Ana it was all for her. She gave me a big kiss. We got a motoconcho and headed to my hotel.
When we arrived at around 2:20 a. M. , we went right to business. As I went down on her, she gleely cried "¡que lindo! " as I dutifully performed DATY on her womanhood. Although she was a mulatto, her labia minora were definitely on the black side though I was disappointed to find that her muff was clean shaven. That unfortunately seems to have become standard. Herman mentioned to me that it had become standard over the last 2 years or so. Oh well. A hairless pussy is better than no pussy at all.
Ana then gave me a BJ. I was really getting into when, suddenly, she asked, ¿Qué hora es? (What time is it? ). I told her it was about 2:45 or so. She told that she absolutely had to go home or else her uncle that she was living with would throw a fit. Hmmm. She promised that she would come back at one o'clock the following day. And that, on a rather disappointing note, was how I ended an otherwise interesting Saturday in Sosúa.
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Tom Gueguen
08-25-07, 16:20
Very good post Cunni but 2000 pesos for one shot is too high especially for a notaputa you just met.
I think you can give this kind of amount when you really know the girl to support her (as a friend you want to help). This way it is not associated to sex and you are not ruining the market.
1000 would have been a very good deal for the two parts involved.
To each is own about the price but it's better not to give bad habits to the chicas to avoid pain in the ass negociating reasonable prices.
Member #2128
08-26-07, 10:25
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist Here goes the report for my Saturday (s)exploits in Sosúa
Saturday
I slowly dragged myself out of bed....
Ana then gave me a BJ. I was really getting into when, suddenly, she asked, ¿Qué hora es? (What time is it? ). I told her it was about 2:45 or so. She told that she absolutely had to go home or else her uncle that she was living with would throw a fit. Hmmm. She promised that she would come back at one o'clock the following day. And that, on a rather disappointing note, was how I ended an otherwise interesting Saturday in Sosúa.
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C.L., I see trouble ahead! A Jackie vs. Ana catfight? With you in the middle?
After all, Dominicana jealosy (over their current ATM) is legend!
Will the connection between your "heart" and your "wallet" be broken?
Will you hear the story about the sick child or dying mother and be asked to contribute to their welfare?
Will you, in the end, find a third, and even more beautiful Haitiana at the manicure shop who is "non-pro" and non-shaved?
The plot is thickening nicely....
Yum yum,
#2128
Cunning Linguist
08-28-07, 10:56
Very good post Cunni but 2000 pesos for one shot is too high especially for a notaputa you just met.
I think you can give this kind of amount when you really know the girl to support her (as a friend you want to help). This way it is not associated to sex and you are not ruining the market.
1000 would have been a very good deal for the two parts involved.
To each is own about the price but it's better not to give bad habits to the chicas to avoid pain in the ass negociating reasonable prices.Hello Tom,
You are right. And you are right but my reasoning was that I was looking for a kind of GFE and I was hoping to invest in that and not a one-off one night stand sort of arrangement but things are not always what they seem in that part of the world as will you see in my upcoming reports.
Really, money is the name of the game there. And everywhere. And if I inadvertently contributed to any inflation in the price of vulva-rental, I am most sorry. I am still learning.
Cunning Linguist
08-28-07, 11:05
Hey C.Linguist,
Have you had any encounters or any thoughts about the thicker clitoris' which are also often on the Haitian menu? CunningLengua, I was tasting it, as I visualized the various labia described....that which is but a memory, here now roused by your report!Well, I did not encounter but a couple of Haitian clitorises and they were no thicker than anything that I have encountered anywhere else. Of course, I am sure they are out there. Thai cherries are the smallest that I have ever encountered but their sweetness more than made up for it all.
I almost fell of my chair when I heard of your encounter with the deaf mute! She was a familiar fixture on the beach and often at the clubs in the evening when I was last in Sosua almost one year ago. While not a beauty, she was kinda cute and had a sweet little body with those two dimples, on each side and above the butt, but below the waist, that little hotties often have...if you notice this sort of detail. I was sad to hear that she was a stone in bed. On the beach she was always quite provocative, displaying the length of her tongue and exposing her perky little breasts for a smile and a wink. I never made the commitment to give her a pop and a mil and afterwards I always felt she was unfinished business. I feel a bit better now.Provocative she was ... and is ... but it is more out of a need for money than sheer randiness, me thinks.
You sound like you conducted your business like a first class gentlemen among the putas, being respectful of their personal and emotional needs as well as their financial onesI really try to be a nice guy with them so that they will know that not all men are inherent bastards and if they ever recall me, it will be with wistful fondness.
Hopefully, I will finish my report for Sunday in which nothing turned out as I expected
Member #2128
08-29-07, 07:04
Well, I did not encounter but a couple of Haitian clitorises and they were no thicker than anything that I have encountered anywhere else. Of course, I am sure they are out there. Thai cherries are the smallest that I have ever encountered but their sweetness more than made up for it all.
Provocative she was ... and is ... but it is more out of a need for money than sheer randiness, me thinks.
I really try to be a nice guy with them so that they will know that not all men are inherent bastards and if they ever recall me, it will be with wistful fondness.
Hopefully, I will finish my report for Sunday in which nothing turned out as I expected
You ARE a nice guy. And I'm looking forward to your report of your Sunday's mis-adventures. Not quite with "wistful fondness", but with enthusiasm nevertheless. <smiling with you>
#2128
Cunning Linguist
08-29-07, 09:22
sunday
part 1
the night before really stuck in my mind. i was thinking a lot about ana. i was longing for ana, nay, i was lusting for ana. all my thoughts in the morning were mostly centred on her. she had been so passionate in bed and yet, so mysteriously. why exactly did she skedaddle when she did? she seemed to be happy with me. one o'clock was on my mind. at 12, i thought, in an hour's time, we'll be getting it on. at 12 thirty, my anticipation only grew. at 10 to one, i simply walked down and had a beer at the new garden bar in anticipation of ana coming to the entrance. one o'clock came and went but the same couldn't be said for ana. i called and called but there was no answer. it eventually dawned on me that ana was, for some reason, not coming.
then there was a call on my cell phone. my heart soared at the thought that ana had finally called, only to take a steep nose-dive as soon as i realized that it was jackeline who started speaking in kreyòl at the speed of summer lightning. the connection was rather poor and i was quite simply not prepared for such an abrupt change in language. i kindly asked jackeline to continue in spanish (she knew no english by the way) as i really could not understand her kreyòl under such circumstances.
what followed was an exercise in mind-boggling wierdness. instead of explaining why she was at clássicos the night before although she allegedly eschewed such unseemly venues, she told me that she had no money on her and that if i wanted to see her, i would have to take a taxi out to her place which was somewhere between sosúa and puerto plata. she also mentioned that she would talk to the taxi driver to give him directions to get there.
i was struck dumb, mainly because i believed that the haitian wench thought that i was, in fact, that dumb. alarm bells started ringing in my head, emergency sirens went off in my mind, but luckily a healthy dose of skepticism based on pure logic and vast experience of travel throughout the third world soon took control of the situation. i could not help but remember that i had given jackeline 2, 000 pesos on friday night. how was it that she had no money to come to sosúa to see me if, indeed, she really did want to be with me? as tom gueguen said in his comment, 2, 000 pesos is quite a sum of money for the dominican republic. an unseemly amount for a girl such as she.
another scenario flashed through my mind. why should i go to some strange little hamlet in the middle of a third world country that i knew virtually nothing about in order to be with a woman whom i knew only superficially and whose credibility was quickly wearing thin? for all i knew, maybe it was just a set-up to shake me down for money. i was only comfortable in sosúa and unfamiliar with anything else. i did not wish to take any unnecessary chances. i told jackeline that i would have to talk to my friends about the matter and hung up. once again, i turned my cell phone off as i was rather put off by such accosting.
the day before, herman of siempre sol had told me that sunday was "pussy parade" at the beach and that i should be there by one o'clock if i wanted be guaranteed a seat. with that in mind, and in a daze over ana's brazen flakiness and jackeline's rather mysterious ruses, i quickly made my way to what had become my official watering hole in sosúa, indeed, my very zone of comfort: siempre sol. seeing herman's always sunny smile, sitting behind a table at his beach bar constituted a source of comfort for me. the first question that i asked him was about jackeline. he dismissed the whole matter in just a few words "forget about her, there are plenty of others". i also asked him about ana. "well, she is a rather odd girl. ". and with that, my concerns about ana and jackeline immediately evaporated. in any case, herman was quite interested in my haitian creole book and we made a deal for him to acquire it. he also told me that he would help me hook up with a stunner for that day. i was intrigued. and hopeful about the possibility.
several europeans and an american were sitting around, enjoying the local talent passing us by. one such chap was a dutchman named "frederik" who was, for me at least, a very likeable character though with a feisty polemical streak to him. there was also a kansan named tom as well as an englishman who had the odd luck of being able to monger in sosúa together with his wife/girlfried. there were also quite a few dutchmen sitting around.
i was distraught and rather pessimistic, given my luck so far but herman assured me that i had the overwhelming advantage of being able to speak excellent spanish and so there was still hope. then it happened. i once again saw the knockout black girl with lacoste sunglasses whom i had admired so much a couple of days before. in desperation, but with new-found confidence, i flagged her and her friend down and invited them to a drink. she agreed and beckoned me to sit down next to her.
she had remembered me quite distinctly when we saw each other two days before. she was impressed by my height and english flatcap (rather than the ubiquitous baseball hat everybody else seems to sport about in sosúa). her friend was, well, how should i put it, visually challenged. to put it bluntly, she looked more like mrs. shrek but without the trumpet ears and with coffee-coloured skin instead of the bright yellow-green skin of the original version. life's just not fair but i did invite the shrekette to a beer as well because, after all, i do try to be nice to everybody.
the scrumptious svelte ebony stunner spoke no english but, then again, i was absolutely delighted about that. she turned out to be from santo domingo and had been in sosúa for 4 months and went by the name elizabeth. she spoke in a rather slow and easy manne. she was, as it were, a kind of a stoner stunner. she said she was 18 going on 19 and was rather adamant about that although there was no "cédula" (id) to vouch for it. she claimed to have lost it. i had suspected that she might have been **** before and alarm bells once again started ringing in my ears but a thumbs-up from herman convinced me that she really was kosher, legit, and therefore, well. legal. no jailbait.
i asked her what she did for a living and she replied that she " worked" with tourists and quickly followed with the question "¿quieres andar conmigo? " (do you want to go out with me? ) i replied, in amazement, "o sea, por todo el día o incluso por toda la noche? " (you mean, for all day or even all night? ) she answered, "pues, sí". (well, yeah) while i was admiring her beauty and somewhat incredulous of my dumb luck, i quickly entered into negotiations. "cuánto pides? " (what is your price? ) "depende de tí" (up to you) came the thai-like response. i thought, well, for the whole damn day. and night, why not 3, 000 pesos? she accepted the proposal with a smile but then asked me if i wanted a menage à trois with her and mrs. shrek 2. 0. i politely declined, citing my traditional ways of preferring one man one woman during a single session. i was actually telling the truth, even if someone more palatable then shrekette had been number three.
in the meantime, in anticipation of a wildly lascivious romp with such a dark-skinned stunner, the reptilean part of my now-aroused brain started urgently sending involuntary but premature chemical messages to my third leg to balloon in size. the resulting bulge.- a real embarrassment but at least a sincere sign that no viagra or cialis was necessary.- did not go unnoticed. both elizabeth and mrs. shrek gleefully pointed out my happy banana. in fact, elizabeth went as far as grabbing my ever-engorging member. i playfully grabbed her groin in return but elizabeth, seemingly indifferent to such fondling, just laughed it off. the drop-dead gorgeous dominican strumpet reminded a lot of helpmann's fabled fuck puppet and definitely fit neatly into his "gazelle" category. i thought to myself, with anxious anticipation, that this was going to be an interesting day. it was, but not exactly according to my expectations.
to be continued
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Whats going on with the weather down there ? Im having a few set backs with my peru trip maybe I should go back to the DR ?
I've noticed some rain storms in the forecast. I cant believe the beautiful weather I had there just three weeks ago.
I have a question. Its food. DR girls like to eat lots of things.
So where are cheapest and best places in Sousa ? Local barios no problema.
Shrimp, chicken,pork and SANCOCHO. Fish. need to go to beyond POP.
One more thing. DR girls, when its there do it. Do not plan for later. Later is a word in spanish that means nothing. Later can mean 1 hour or 1 year. Experience whats there now. Many of these girls here "later" later". Does not real mean anything.
Member #2128
08-30-07, 08:52
Sunday
Part 1
The scrumptious svelte ebony dark-skinned stunner, the drop-dead gorgeous Dominican strumpet reminded a lot of Helpmann's fabled Fuck Puppet and definitely fit neatly into his "gazelle" category. I thought to myself, with anxious anticipation, that this was going to be an interesting day. It was, but not exactly according to my expectations.
To be continued
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Do please CONTINUE! We're rooting for you....in spite of your ominous forecast!
RE: Ebony Gazelle---Please include vulva detail and other anotomical visuals for the rest of us mongers confined to our distant armchairs. Arggghggggh!
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Tom Gueguen
08-30-07, 16:31
Excellent report as usual.
Looking forward to read more but with the price you offer it was necessary that it would have gone wrong.
You cannot offer 3 000 for a day wich are almost 3 weeks wages of a hostel worker.
But maybe that the price to learn...
Cunning Linguist
08-30-07, 17:56
Sunday 2
I started to try to woo Elizabeth over. My Spanish has a Catalan tinge to it and so it sounds interesting to Dominicans although most Spaniards seem to loathe the Catalan accent in Spanish outright. While most Spaniards abhor Catalan-like accents, Dominicans love them. I suppose because a Catalan accent sounds exotic yet authentic enough and because it certainly beats whatever other Europeans (save for real Castilian or Andalusian Spaniards) can belt out. Well, I should come out and admit it: my Spanish far exceeds anything those girls can come up with. Their lack of education and provincial nature confines them to a level little better than a hillbilly from the Ozarks. In communication with Dominican girls, my problem, if there was one, was not my Spanish but their limited Spanish. A rather bizarre situation in view of my experiences in Thailand where I felt that my limited Thai seemed to be a distinct disadvantage.
I started out by saying things like: "Tu rostro, un rostro que podría lanzar mil barcos, me deja una impresión indelible en el alma"
"Tu belleza indiscutible me aturde, me deja sin defensas." (your undisputed beauty astonishes me, I am left defenceless)
or the famous Mexican come-on
"Tantas curvas y uno sin frenos" (so many curves and one without brakes)
I even invited Elizabeth and Mrs. Shrek to something to eat at Siempre Sol.
Eventually, Elizabeth and i decided to go. As I got up, Frederik the Dutchman was decked by another Dutchman. In the ensuing chaos, other people quickly stepped in to prevent Frederik from getting back at the oaf who aimed a punch at him. Apparently, it was a question of a tit for tat. The oaf had apparently mentioned that Frederik was, well, kind of special. Probably even gay. Frederik lashed back by saying something like, well, at I least I don't do drugs like you. The beer-besotted idiot replied with a punch. Herman handled the whole matter with panache and even sang "bésame, bésame mucho". Frederik was upset and I left with my sympathy firmly on his side.
Elizabeth and I headed to my hotel but I could not help but notice that Shrekette was coming along despite my explicit instructions that I was absolutely not into menage à trois.
I was ecstatic, even overjoyed that I was with such a pretty girl but growing rather alarmed that her Shrek-like friend was in tow. I knew what was coming but I thought that I would just let it play out.
When we arrived at the New Garden Hotel, we went straight to my hotel room and, fortunately, no one stopped us to card Elizabeth. Fortunately as she had no "cédula" (ID). Unfortunately, Shrekette came into the room with Elizabeth and Yours Truly. It was then that I calmly asked what she was doing with us. Mrs. Shrek said that she needed money for a meal. I told her that I had invited her to lunch but the visually challenged woman really had no recourse. Since hardly any gringo or European would most likely be willing to pay to bong her, her strategy was blackmail: pay me and then you can bonk my friend. I offered her 150 pesos. That was my final offer. As always in such cases, my line was the usual: "Oye, chica. No soy tonto y ya sé por dóndo van los tiros. Ya sé cuánto vale una comida y no te voy dar nada más que eso. Soy generoso pero no soy idiota." (Hey girl, I'm no fool and I know what the ropes are. I know how much a meal is and I'm not going to give you any more than that").
She finally caved in and up and went. Of course, I realized that it was all a part of the act that and Elizabeth was in league with her. Shrekette probably had no other way to make a peso. At least, we were alone. Elizabeth quickly stripped and beckoned to me to take a shower with her.
For me, at least, it is rather embarrassing to take a shower with a knockout girl, especially if you have such an intense hard-on. Her body was just what i liked. It was a very slim, slight body. Her nipples were of the most intense brown, even browner than her richly chocolate-coloured skin. At the Siempre Sol, I had seen that she had hairs around near her navel which was tell-tale sign that she was naturally quite hairy in the right places but I supposed that she would prove to be a shaver. Unfortunately, I was right but there was an unexpected touch to her nether regions: a tattoo. There was a tattoo of a salamander that ran astraddle the hairline covering the mons Veneris. She had not shaved for a day and so I could see where half of the salamander above the hairline and the other half was dipping below the devil's triangle.
My mind was in a spin at the very sight. Who was the lucky tattoo artist? How did he get paid? To what nethermost depths of slutdom could a girl stoop in having a such a tattoo etched there? She must have been spread-eagled while it was being done and I hear that tattoos can hurt. Although a piercing of the clitoral hood or labia is not unheard-of, I understand it is a quick thing to do but drawing a tattooo there does requires some time ....
We made our way towards the bed. She took a towel and spread it across the bed and lay down spread-eagled, awaiting my move. And move I did. I went down on her with great enthusiasm but I could see that Elizabeth, like Yossi, was just not into it. Although Elizabeth let me explore her salamander-emblazoned triangle and orifice without hindrance, it was certainly less enjoyable than it could have been. However, her snatch was perfectly tight and inner slit delightfully pink. Finally, Elizabeth, in a daze and rather blazé, told me
"Quiero tu leche"
which I knew meant, "get it over with". She was just too cute not to get my rocks off. a prophylactic-enhanced spermatic surge soon erupted inside the Dominican starfish. When it was over, she immediately got up and started smoking. No cuddling from this chick, no conoodling from the likes of her. I was quite literally left holding my limp appendage while looking at her puffing away in a daze.
I knew that she was in the business for the money but I hoped against hope that, perhaps, she might like to get her rocks off as well. i hoped that, perhaps, once Elizabeth got to know me better, she would improve her performance.
We rested a bit and told her that I would invite her to the finest, most expensive restaurant in all of Sosúa. This was no hyperbole, that is, I was definitely not bullshitting. I aimed to take Elizabeth to la Puntilla de Pier Giorgio.
We eventually headed back into the hot tropical afternoon sun that beat mercilessly down on Sosúa. I was somewhat at a loss as to how to get to la Puntilla de Pier Giorgio but we took a street that headed up ... and up. Elizabeth was getting tired. Even though I was more than twice her age, I was definitely fitter than she was. Eventually, we spied on the hotel. I ascertained that the restaurant was somewhere inside the hotel and so, I boldly led the way towards a lovely verandah. We were at the very top of Sosúa overlooking the whole town and looking out north towards the Gulf of Mexico.
I was quickly running out of local cash and so i decided to spend the cash on the dinner and then change 50 dollars to pay Elizabeth later.
The setting was breath-taking. The food might not have been as good as you could get in the old country but it was the best that you could buy in Sosúa. There I was, with a winsome beauty and I tried to connect.
What does one say to someone who knows absolutely nothing about anything? What does one say to someone who is there for just the money, to somebody who is interested in nothing beyond the most mundane? What can the honest man say to a girl who cannot, and will not, think further than the simplest platitudes imaginable to someone who never had any kind of real education?
I supposed that discussion of ontological arguments in favour of the existence of God would be out. I also figured that any discussion of the fundamental differences between Nietzschean nihilism and Kirkegaard Christian existentialism would likewise be out of bounds, not to mention examination of arguments in favour of string theory providing the answer to unifying Einstein's general relativity and quantum mechanics. I was sure any discussion of the Etruscans and their mysterious culture would any encourage yawns of excruciating ennui.
I imagined that talking about how different life between the Dominican Republic and the USA is or even Spain would be too heavy for one such as Elizabeth. Even topics closer to home such as the chances of Dominican President Lionel Fernández's being of re-elected or the effect of global warming on the Caribbean in the guise of hurricanes would be much too much. Even baseball seemed beyond her. And there she sat, silent as the grave, looking at me although it seemed not all the lights were on upstairs in her cute little noggin.
I decided to talk about .... well, what music did she like?.
She liked Shakira ... yeah, all music. All music? Yes, said she, all music in an extremely terse reply. Even classical music? Even Arabic music? Chinese music? Well, not exactly came the reply but without elaboration.
Then an awkward pause.
Hmm. I asked her where she would go if she won a trip to anywhere she wanted to go. She mentioned Miami ... and Spain. I told her, truthfully, that I knew people along the Costa Brava who could provide her with a job at a hotel if she wanted to go and work in Europe. She smiled at the idea but didn't pursue it, either out of ignorance, boredom, or perhaps even out of fear that the job might end up being a cover for white slavery (perish the thought but it does happen in Europe) as she barely knew me.
What do you really want to do in life?, I inquired, more in amusement than in all seriousness.
"Quiero casarme" (I want to get married) came the totally unexpected reply.
Awkward pause on my part. "What a catch she would be", I thought to myself in a moment of cynical reflection. A perfectly packaged airhead with a tattoo where the sun hardly shines (well, perhaps in Elizabeth's case, it probably does shine a great deal there), no education, little personality, fond of ganja inhalation, but with plenty of experience below her belt in every literal sense of the word. She was a sight to behold though. Her beauty, like everything mortal, is ephemeral and then where will she be when it is all used up? I quickly changed the subject.
I asked about her family. ¿Cuántos hermanos son ustedes? Cuentame de tu papá (How many brothers and sisters have you got? Tell me about your dad).
She mentioned that her father wasn't too bad as men went. He never abandoned the family. That was an interesting comment and so I decided to probe a bit more. Is he a good father? Elizabeth revealingly told me that he never beat her but if he really cared about her, he would come and fetch her from Sosúa in view of what she was doing. Hmmm. Wow. Enough about papá.
¡Cuéntame de tu mamá!
That was when her eyes lit up. She told me that her mother was a good woman and Elizabeth started fretting about her mother needing a thousand pesos to pay for a gas bill. Of course, I clammed up at the prospect of footing the bill for her own mother. I then told Elizabeth, quite truthfully, that I truly love my own mother very much.
I couldn't help but notice that Elizabeth just loved smoking. Perhaps in a rather avuncular way, I briefly mentioned the perils of smoking but I changed tack to say that marihuana had recently been found to be even more harmful than normal tobacco. Elizabeth actually seemed to be paying attention and the nervous twitches in her face told me that the source of her air-headed disposition probably lay in wisps of wacky tabacky smoke which seem to make up the lion's share of the air in her head.
I let Elizabeth have anything she wanted but she did not seem to want very much. She noted that men didn't like women to be very fat and was probably thinking of her poor Shrek doppelgänger of a friend. I was also sure that women in Sosúa didn't like poor men any more than we men like flabby Brumhildas.
I ordered a glass of over-priced but underwhelming Italian wine and, when dinner was over, I asked for a Capuccino. The coffee the waitress brought looked fine, but the taste thereof was more akin to instant Folgers long past its shelf life. Oh well. The scenery from the restaurant was breath-taking and more than made up for any shortcomings in the food department.
I asked for the bill and it came to over 2,000 pesos, a most outrageous gouging for a meal in Sosúa but, what the hell, I had the money and I had no regrets.
We headed back down to my hotel but then Elizabeth wanted to go back to her abode to "wash her clothes". She wanted her 3,000 pesos then and there and that she would come back to the hotel. By this time, she had flagged down a motoconcho. I quite truthfully told her that I had no more than half that amount at that moment but that I would definitely fork out the rest of the money later after I changed my dollars.
The motoconcho guy looked on as I was explaining all of this to Elizabeth. I turned to him and said: "Mira, ya se que no estoy en mi país y no juego con nadie. No quiero rollos, solo quiero la paz." (Look, I know that I am not in my country and I'm not playing with anybody. I don't want any hassles and only want peace).
Eventually, Elizabeth gave in, admitting that I had indeed invited her to a truly fabulous place and took the 1,500 pesos with the promise of the rest to be paid when she came back to my hotel.
She told me that she would come back to the hotel at 8 o'clock and off she went.
I was as good as my word and made my way back down to Calle Pedro Clisante to change my dollars with the local money changers. It was there that I learnt that you could get a much better deal there than in banks or at the airport in Puerto Plata. I now had the money that I had promised Elizabeth.
At 8 o'clock, I was at the front entrance, just as I had been for Ana. Elizabeth didn't come at 8 as expected. I kept drinking beer at the New Garden Hotel bar which had run out of Presidente beer. Unexpectedly, at 8:20, Elizabeth, looking somewhat concerned, showed up. She told me that she had been very busy washing her clothes and that she would meet up with me at the Latinos bar at nine o'clock. However, I started to think that if I expected anything to happen, it wouldn't. That optimistic bit of pessimism turned out to be somewhat closer to the reality of the Murphy's Law Theme Park that Sosúa seems to be.
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you seem to speak spanish really well, so i don`t understand why you pay that much money for the chicas.
I always thought that the ability to speak decent spanish is the key for not paying this amount of money.
In the D.R. a hotel employee gets round about 6000 pesos for month, so 3000 pesos for a day is way to much, nevertheless i enjoy reading your reports.
Cunning Linguist
08-30-07, 18:28
you seem to speak spanish really well, so i don`t understand why you pay that much money for the chicas.
I always thought that the ability to speak decent spanish is the key for not paying this amount of money.
In the D.R. a hotel employee gets round about 6000 pesos for month, so 3000 pesos for a day is way to much, nevertheless i enjoy reading your reports.I am now seeing that I probably overpaid but I did base my offers on what other members here have written on the Dominican Republic section of the website.
The going price for long time or toda la noche is/was between 2,000 and 2,500. Some reported even high prices such as 3,000 or even 4,000 if the girl is hotter than hot and if you are hornier than horny (or dumber than dumb).
The going price for short time is/was about between 1,000 and 1,500 if the girl was decent, 500 pesos if less than decent.
Thus, in view of these prices, I thought that todo el día was a longer commitment than toda la noche. Thus, according to this reckoning, perhaps groundless reckoning, I offered that money. In view of what happened anyway, it didn't help and, as you can see, this all happened even though I was a perfect gentleman to her, reasonably good-looking, and spoke excellent Spanish and was generous to a fault. That fact that she was also so pretty probably clouded my judgement (rather than a Presidente) and I remember one member's remark, if you absolutely must, go for it. Carpe diem. That is what I did.
Now, in view of what you and Tom Guegen are saying, I am probably guilty of flashing my money around, something which was not my intention. What are the prices for decent chicks? I now feel so foolish but I did it based on the figures given above. Was I so grossly misinformed?
Tom Gueguen
08-31-07, 02:49
I am now seeing that I probably overpaid but I did base my offers on what other members here have written on the Dominican Republic section of the website.
The going price for long time or toda la noche is/was between 2,000 and 2,500. Some reported even high prices such as 3,000 or even 4,000 if the girl is hotter than hot and if you are hornier than horny (or dumber than dumb).
The going price for short time is/was about between 1,000 and 1,500 if the girl was decent, 500 pesos if less than decent.
Thus, in view of these prices, I thought that todo el día was a longer commitment than toda la noche. Thus, according to this reckoning, perhaps groundless reckoning, I offered that money. In view of what happened anyway, it didn't help and, as you can see, this all happened even though I was a perfect gentleman to her, reasonably good-looking, and spoke excellent Spanish and was generous to a fault. That fact that she was also so pretty probably clouded my judgement (rather than a Presidente) and I remember one member's remark, if you absolutely must, go for it. Carpe diem. That is what I did.
Now, in view of what you and Tom Guegen are saying, I am probably guilty of flashing my money around, something which was not my intention. What are the prices for decent chicks? I now feel so foolish but I did it based on the figures given above. Was I so grossly misinformed?
There's not absolute rule.
The most important is that you enjoy what you get for your money.
I can read that the prices you are writing are in the good range but they are after having negociating with the girl.
According to me the mistake is to propose in first offer this kind of prices.
The chica if she accepts it will try to get more because she has gained it without any effort of her part.
I always offer a reasonable low price and rise it if I really want the girl.
Mr Enternational
08-31-07, 06:09
I am now seeing that I probably overpaid but I did base my offers on what other members here have written on the Dominican Republic section of the website.
The going price for long time or toda la noche is/was between 2,000 and 2,500. Some reported even high prices such as 3,000 or even 4,000 if the girl is hotter than hot and if you are hornier than horny (or dumber than dumb).
The going price for short time is/was about between 1,000 and 1,500 if the girl was decent, 500 pesos if less than decent.
Now, in view of what you and Tom Guegen are saying, I am probably guilty of flashing my money around, something which was not my intention. What are the prices for decent chicks? I now feel so foolish but I did it based on the figures given above. Was I so grossly misinformed?
Fuck that. If you see ANY chick in daytime hours on the street, beach, or as a customer at a bar, then start at 500. If you see her inside of a club at night or she is a bartender, then start at 1000. Much of it will rest with your people and/or salesman skills. My negotiation in a club scene usually goes like so:
Me: How much do you want?
Her: 2000 for two hours.
Me: Be serious with me. This is not my first time here. Maybe I would give you 2000 for two days but definitley not for two hours.
Her: How much would you give me?
Me: 1000 for all night.
Her: I always get 2000..blah, blah, blah...
Me (especially if it is already late): You have been here all night. So you would rather go home with 0 than to come with me all night for 1000?
(Sometimes it is helpful to show 1000 and let her eyes decide for her. This works well when bargaining for souvenirs too. When the person wants 500 but you show them the 200 you are willing to give them they are more likely to cave in (if it is higher than their buying price) than they would with you only blurting out numbers.)
Her: But I have to be at such and such place really early in the morning...
Me: Well since you can not stay the night I will give you 750 for (whatever time.)
Her: Okay. Where is your hotel?
Deal closed.
Keep in mind that when you say "decent chicks" that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Most chicks who I think are smoking only consider themselves to be average, especially in countries like DR, Colombia, and Brazil because they actually are average and a dime a dozen. You can tell the girls who think they are hot shit because they will have their nose in the air. It is harder to get them to come down from a high price because guys have spoiled them along the way by paying it. On top of that they are probably average or below in bed and are not going to make a good GFE. This is why you can not be afraid to walk away. (Many times if you turn your back she is going to chase you down and accept your offer.) Never ever ever go over 2000. Only go up to 2000 in a rare must-have toda la noche case. Remember you are in a buyer's market. In another two minutes you will see another just like her who you will want just as much and will accept your price.
Member #2128
08-31-07, 08:06
<<<What does one say to someone who knows absolutely nothing about anything? What does one say to someone who is there for just the money, to somebody who is interested in nothing beyond the most mundane? What can the honest man say to a girl who cannot, and will not, think further than the simplest platitudes imaginable to someone who never had any kind of real education?>>>
Perhaps the very sad truth is ALL there is to say is: "Do you want to come to my hotel room to f*uck? I have 1000 pesos for you and no more."
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Great report! I was sorry to see it end. I enjoyed your perspective, your descriptions, your curiosity and reading about your hopes for the elusive GFE. I also especially enjoyed your colorful pick-up lines. They read like 19th century poetry.
In the end, would I be correct to assume that you paid Elizabeth 1500 for one pop and 150 for Shrekette to disappear.....then blew 2000 on a romantic dinner? The 1500 seems like no big deal. It's just the price of admission. It's the rest that demands personal examination IMHO. Were you trying to woo this puta with an expensive and "romantic" meal? So that somehow, quite miraculously, she would change from a uneducated Domincan peasant into a fairy princess? As a "princess" she would see you differently, perhaps as her "prince" and behave appropriately, with gratitude and appreciation, the next time you shoved your dick in the direction of her salamander? Hmmmm?
Of course, I know this is an exaggeration and you were just trying to be a decent guy and treat her well.
For me, in my own experience, it's about "expectations". If I expect a GFE with bells and whistles in a place like Sosua where poor young women are hustling men with money, I will be disappointed. My expectations would be out of line with reality. However, if I expect to explore and enjoy sexual exercise with a variety of females, then I'm going to be successful. If I'm lucky (as I have been on occasion) I'll find a dumb young thing, smooth and lithe like Helpmann's Fuck Puppet, who gets sexually excited by my efforts, and gives it as good as she gets it. But that's a lucky day in Sosua, not the norm.
In the end, as a gentleman of taste, discrimination and realistic expectations, I would have to say that 50-50 is a good batting average in Sosua. This means that half the encounters are pleasurable and a good value....and half are a disappointment. Another way to rationalize this hit and miss propostiion: It's just "the cost of doing business."
Also, a basic rule or "tip" that's been given here before: Never spend the big number for TLN before you've determined the basic value through a ST experience. If it's good, go for all nighters....but don't spring for an all nighter before you've has the sample taste!
Enuf said!
Again, thanks Cunning Linguist for a thoughtful report.
#2128
I am now seeing that I probably overpaid but I did base my offers on what other members here have written on the Dominican Republic section of the website.
The going price for long time or toda la noche is/was between 2,000 and 2,500. Some reported even high prices such as 3,000 or even 4,000 if the girl is hotter than hot and if you are hornier than horny (or dumber than dumb).
The going price for short time is/was about between 1,000 and 1,500 if the girl was decent, 500 pesos if less than decent.
Thus, in view of these prices, I thought that todo el día was a longer commitment than toda la noche. Thus, according to this reckoning, perhaps groundless reckoning, I offered that money. In view of what happened anyway, it didn't help and, as you can see, this all happened even though I was a perfect gentleman to her, reasonably good-looking, and spoke excellent Spanish and was generous to a fault. That fact that she was also so pretty probably clouded my judgement (rather than a Presidente) and I remember one member's remark, if you absolutely must, go for it. Carpe diem. That is what I did.
Now, in view of what you and Tom Guegen are saying, I am probably guilty of flashing my money around, something which was not my intention. What are the prices for decent chicks? I now feel so foolish but I did it based on the figures given above. Was I so grossly misinformed?
During my last time in Sosua in March and April of 2007 i usually paid 1000 pesos for st during the day. At night inside the discos most girls accepted 1500 pesos for toda la noche straight away.
Although my Spanish is not 100% fluent and was learned in the DR, them impression I get is that Spanish in the DR is a bit like the English in the English-speaking Caribbean, i.e. has a simplified grammar and vocabulary, so in either case speaking in the language of Shakespeare or Cervantes will probably earn mostly incomprehension.
Island people everywhere have a limited perspective and subjects of conversation mostly focus on family and friends, or on shopping. The girls tend to have relationships with their female relatives and friends, rather than with men, who are seem mainly as a source of money, gifts etc.
Your girl sounds pretty dim, but not exceptional. Evidently there was not much chemistry between the two of you, perhaps because she did not want it.
Beautiful, but empty headed prostitutes! Who would have thunk it?
Tom Gueguen
08-31-07, 15:20
Excellent post Cunni as usual or even better.
You sure know how to write....
Cunning Linguist
08-31-07, 18:34
I walked over to Latinos in the full belief that Elizabeth would soon be coming but, in the back of my mind, Sosúa track record for flakiness was rather rock solid. I thought that I would at least go through the motions.
At Latinos, there was a man selling live oysters which are particularly disgusting to me but to be happily snarfed down with lime juice for others. I hung around him while waiting for Elizabeth. I started getting hit on by one girl after another. One particularly seemed to be interested in me. I mean my wallet. I told her "Estoy esperando a mi novia". With a yeah-right-a-likely-story gleam in her eye, she told me, no problem, if my "novia" didn't show up, she'the be glad to go with me. She was not too bad but I feared that she was of the tigress type and her heavily painted feline-like eyebrows certainly did put me off. Nine thirty rolled by and no Elizabeth in sight. As the evening turned to night, more and more girls strolled in, many of them giving me the "come hither" eye.
I moved just outside Latinos and discovered that it was a rather advantageous position to be in. When you are in the bar, you are boxed in and pounced upon by eager purveyors of between-the-legs entertainment. From the outside, I was able to "screen" the girls. I noticed that an American was doing what I was doing although he wasn't being stood up like myself. I caught sight of a very thin, lithesome black girl. I was sure that she was Haitian and started asking her questions in Kreyòl. She seemed genuinely surprised and turned out to be rather friendly but I told her that I was still waiting for my novia but if wench didn't show up, I would be glad to take her. The Haitian sweetly told me her name: Lala.
I waited as long as an hour and a quarter for Elizabeth. I might be stupid as an ox, but I can be as stubborn as a mule too. By that time, I supposed that the stoner stunner had probably gone to Clássicos since she could probably land 2 or 3 thousand pesos for a trick as opposed to the promised remaining 1, 500. No need to keep promises if more money is to be made.
I finally got fed up and asked the sinewy Haitian girl to come with me. I told her the truth in a mix of Krèyol and French: I was leaving the following day, was low on Dominican money, and felt that Dominican girls and even some Haitians had proven to be as phoney as a 14 dollar bill. I told her that I would treat her like a princess and would pay her 1, 500 pesos for TLN. Feeling that I had absolutely nothing to lose, I also asked her whether she really liked sex since the other girls had seemed to be rather cold fish. Her face beamed with delight and told me that she really did like to "fè bagay" (to get it on, get down, to ball).
Off we went but I noticed that she ran into a friend who gave her a bite to eat and I told her that I would invite her to anything she wanted at the nearby food stall. She couldn't believe and gave me a hug and her friends seemed to be amazed about my generosity as well. It didn't look like the best kind of food, a kind of garbanzo-based dish with weird sausage like objects floating around. Lala certainly ate her fill and I invited her to a drink as well. That did it. She put her arm around me tightly as we walked towards the hotel. I really think that she genuinely liked me and I liked her.
Once again, I led her through the New Garden complex, past the pool and up the stairs to my room. Lala was literally the fifth girl in two and a half days that I had had in my room. I was more astonished at myself than anything else. I never thought that I would go through so many women in so little time. I am sure most of the readers on this site could have done far more women than me with more umpf but it was quite a record for me.
I suggested that she should take a shower but she really seemed to be horny and anxious for action and I was no one to deny her lust.
She was quite dark, even darker than Elizabeth, and I liked her wiry body. She quickly stripped to reveal her deep chocolate-coloured body. Her breasts were small and even though she told me that she was 20, her nimples seemed to be preamaturely wizened.
Off went her panties and. Damn, she was shaven too. She told me that she was really hairy and had just shaven a couple of days before. Just my luck. Oh well.
I noticed that she had a kind of carbuncle at the side of her leg but it definitely did not seem to be a genital wart. That is one thing that scares me. She assured me that it was not.
I then went down on her with gusto and as I looked up, she seemed to be actually enjoying it all. She was looking up with her eyes softly closed and gently moaning. As dark as her skin was, her labia were still even darker and her slit was a rather light pink, not a bright pink like the other ladies seem to have. Lala liked that combination of licking and rhythmic finger thrusting. I could tell that she was really getting into it. Then she pleaded, in Spanish, "quiero singar" which I thought was cute as "chingar" is the proper pronunciation. I obliged. I quickly slipped on my peter-protecter and offered to use some warming liquid as lubrication which Lala firmly declined. At least there was some concern for hygiene in that department.
As I entered, she really started moving and groaning and writhing with pleasure. What a workout! I eventually released my bolt but she still kept her thrusting until I think she climaxed. When it was all over, Lala seemed to be recovering from what seemed a massive orgasm. I really think that she was not acting. After about half an hour later in each other's arms with me still inside, I pulled out. Lala was all smiles, still rather groggy.
We then watched Rush Hour One on TV, in English with Spanish subtitles, which Lala seemed to love. Once in a while, she would even kiss me. At last, I had a semblance of a girlfriend experience. It was a fitting end to a rather intense day in Sosúa.
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Cunning Linguist
08-31-07, 18:42
Although my Spanish is not 100% fluent and was learned in the DR, them impression I get is that Spanish in the DR is a bit like the English in the English-speaking Caribbean, i.e. has a simplified grammar and vocabulary, so in either case speaking in the language of Shakespeare or Cervantes will probably earn mostly incomprehension.
Island people everywhere have a limited perspective and subjects of conversation mostly focus on family and friends, or on shopping. The girls tend to have relationships with their female relatives and friends, rather than with men, who are seem mainly as a source of money, gifts etc.
Your girl sounds pretty dim, but not exceptional. Evidently there was not much chemistry between the two of you, perhaps because she did not want it.
Beautiful, but empty headed prostitutes! Who would have thunk it?You are right about the difference in language. I was careful not to use the "vosotros" form (the second person plural) and to use "ustedes" as I knew most of them could not even understand it. Even words such as peanut "cacahuete" in Spain, "maní" in the DR and Cuba are quite different. However, Caribbean Spanish is more colourful and softer than the harsh Spanish spoken in Spain.
I am also afraid that you are spot on about the chemistry or lack thereof between us. Being nice, speaking the language, being of OK appearance or better, having money and being generous with it, being well-dressed, and treating the women like a strict gentleman is not always attractive to all women. Oh well. There are plenty of fish in the Sosúa pond.
Cunning Linguist
08-31-07, 18:47
Excellent post Cunni as usual or even better.
You sure know how to write....Thank you and others (such as member 2128). In writing this, I have been able to give a slice of life and my impressions as it all happened. If it were not for you people, my experiences in Sosúa would have gradually disappeared in my memory as the years go by. Now I will be able to recall the most interesting parts and feelings.
thanks again for your report. I certainly enjoyed reading it and it brought back alot of memories from my last time in Sosua.
Seems like we were kinda like in the same position as i was also waiting for hours for girls to show up.
The all famous nos vemos mas tarde, or vamos a encontrarnos a la diez also never worked out for me. All girls i tried to arrange dates with always showed up late like an hour late or did not even show up at all.
Good to hear that you had at least one good experience so far.
is this the elizabeth you are talking about
sorry for the bad quality
Cunning Linguist
09-01-07, 12:59
is this the elizabeth you are talking about.
Sorry for the bad qualityHello Berthold,
You know, I think that that just might be her. Despite the dubious quality of the photo, I still think that a salamander can be barely made out. Also, she had a rather weird, unexplained scar between her breasts which can also be made out there. If Elizabeth was telling the truth about how long she had been in the biz (four months) and if that picture was taken between around March and August then I would bet that is Elizabeth. She also had a piercing in her chin.
Whatever the quality of that photograph, it beats whatever I have to offer. My little camera was broken on the first day and I was not able to take pictures of Elizabeth. I will post pictures of Yossi and Lala (the first and last girls that I had) as soon as I can figure out how to upload them.
This web site is great since we can corroborate each other's experiences
Any more pictures of the Elizabeth? (or whatever nom-de-con she used)
Cunning Linguist,
First of all let's just say that I really enjoyed reading your reports, and this is not a criticism of you but myself . I do the same when I’m there, when I come back I see things much differently.
You seem to be enjoying the chase rather than the kill (rather dating than mongering). If that is what you like you were in the wrong town, head to Santiago or Santo Domingo. With your language skills you could score much higher quality semi-pros (or even if lucky non-pros) over there (uni students and/or some classy chichas).
In Sosua you find putas in every sense of the way. Just pay them and fu**k them. No need for spending all this money and time, taking them out to expensive restaurants, casinos and so on - of course if you are enjoying yourself that's fair enough, but as they say they are “the sure thing”.
Some might think with wine and dine and spending time with them they might get a connection/chemistry and have a better time in the sack. From my experience most girls make up their minds if they really like you and instinctively want to fuck you in the first few minutes of meeting you (just like us guys I guess ! ). The rest is just a game play (I wish I could read that signal and wouldn't waste my time too). The best is to try first and invest later.
You didn't seduce Jacqueline, it was other way around. Just because a girl has a day job doesn't mean she's not a puta. Many Sosua girls work during the day/night and you can find them in discos and bars pulling at night - some harder than others but they're mostly putas. Not wanting to ruin your fantasy or anything but if they jump into bed with you on the first night/day of meeting you, then they are. Even most of them are on Western Union (from various gringos) and still pull punters regularly (I called that greed !).
Of course DR putas have very elaborate ways of using their ATM (i.e. you and I). So at the end of the day they get what they want, we just got to make sure WE get what we want too.
Ana's uncle is most possibly her boyfriend/chulo. For some reason they are becoming very strict recently, last time I was there I see the chulos everywhere, a lot more active now. Constantly keeping an eye on their girls (when in bar or disco they could be standing/dancing just next to you !). They ask them to get more business, higher rates and get back home at certain times. Also at 2:45am there is just enough time for picking one last customer from the Casino (whom she might have spotted/arranged when you weren't looking) !?
As for waiting for Sosua putas, well don’t. They just take the best offer available at the time. I am glad you had a good experience at the end. After a few visits you get a bunch of favorites and hardly waste any time and effort on the rest.
Buena suerte.
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Hello Berthold,
You know, I think that that just might be her. Despite the dubious quality of the photo, I still think that a salamander can be barely made out. Also, she had a rather weird, unexplained scar between her breasts which can also be made out there. If Elizabeth was telling the truth about how long she had been in the biz (four months) and if that picture was taken between around March and August then I would bet that is Elizabeth. She also had a piercing in her chin.
Whatever the quality of that photograph, it beats whatever I have to offer. My little camera was broken on the first day and I was not able to take pictures of Elizabeth. I will post pictures of Yossi and Lala (the first and last girls that I had) as soon as I can figure out how to upload them.
This web site is great since we can corroborate each other's experiences
Any more pictures of the Elizabeth? (or whatever nom-de-con she used)
That is her, she has a salamandar tattoo and a pircing in her chin. My picture was taken in march of 2007 and i was with her several times toda la noche. She has been way longer in the business than 4 months, the owner of the voramar knows her too and he confirmed to me that she has been in the game for at least 2 -3 years so far.
Too bad that all the crack and cocaine has already fucked up her mind soo bad.
Elizabeth lives with several girls just accross the street from the fuckmotel Calypsus
I started out by saying things like: "Tu rostro, un rostro que podría lanzar mil barcos, me deja una impresión indelible en el alma"
"Tu belleza indiscutible me aturde, me deja sin defensas." (your undisputed beauty astonishes me, I am left defenceless)
or the famous Mexican come-on
"Tantas curvas y uno sin frenos" (so many curves and one without brakes)I have never been to the DR as I mostly hang out in CR and now Colombia, but I live in south florida so the DR is close and cheap. Also, I have some friends who are Dominican and often offer to show me around over there.
I have absolutely loved the posts on this thread, especially from CL. I just wanted to add a comment on one subject that I think is not well represented on the DR boards.
Quotes like this one seem to indicate that CL and most of the readers here (along with most of the men on the planet it seems) believe that wooing women is done with compliments and generosity. This is not really the case.
Think about it, we are traveling to foreign countries paying discount prices (compared to the US and Europe) for sex, but there are men getting the exact same women in those countries for nothing and some even getting taken care of by the women we pay. Why?
Because women are not attracted to generosity or flattery in and of themselves. They are attracted to men who have perceived social or financial value. Generosity can show financial value, but only if the person showing that value is going to be around providing that value indefinitely. If you are going to be around for a few days or weeks then the only financial value you have needs to be obtained immediately, but not at the expense of missing other opportunities.
Also, if a woman can get financial value from one guy, but not social value then she will look elsewhere to get that social value. Thats one of the biggest reasons why we all often get less than the best treatment in these interactions. The women are only being true to their own best interests.
I just finished reading a book that lays all this (and a fuck of a lot more) out in a compelling story driven style and I highly suggest reading it to every single man or married man on the prowl on the P4P field or with civilians.
Its called The Game:
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5742195-9295269?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188744535&sr=1-1
If you read this book I guarantee you will not be disappointed.
PS - Reading over what I wrote here it now becomes obvious to me why the author, Neil Strauss, gets payed lots of money to write books and articles and I don't. He does an exponentially better job of getting his points across than I do.
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World Jockey
09-02-07, 16:45
During my last time in Sosua in March and April of 2007 I usually paid 1000 pesos for st during the day. At night inside the discos most girls accepted 1500 pesos for toda la noche straight away. I agree, the only time I would pay more than this is if the girl was TOP dimepiece quality or went the extra mile
One thing I have come to realize is the they do remember you very well! I always assumed they saw so many guys they could not rmember who was who last time I was down (last week)
Ts girl from March remembered that I was with her friend
Another spotted me from across the street I had not seen here since November So since I plan to go back I always treat the ones who do a good job well
Just my little noobie. 02
Cunning Linguist
09-02-07, 18:05
Cunning Linguist,
First of all let's just say that I really enjoyed reading your reports, and this is not a criticism of you but myself . I do the same when I’m there, when I come back I see things much differently.
You seem to be enjoying the chase rather than the kill (rather dating than mongering). If that is what you like you were in the wrong town, head to Santiago or Santo Domingo. With your language skills you could score much higher quality semi-pros (or even if lucky non-pros) over there (uni students and/or some classy chichas).
In Sosua you find putas in every sense of the way. Just pay them and fu**k them. No need for spending all this money and time, taking them out to expensive restaurants, casinos and so on - of course if you are enjoying yourself that's fair enough, but as they say they are “the sure thing”.
Some might think with wine and dine and spending time with them they might get a connection/chemistry and have a better time in the sack. From my experience most girls make up their minds if they really like you and instinctively want to fuck you in the first few minutes of meeting you (just like us guys I guess ! ). The rest is just a game play (I wish I could read that signal and wouldn't waste my time too). The best is to try first and invest later.
As for waiting for Sosua putas, well don’t. They just take the best offer available at the time. I am glad you had a good experience at the end. After a few visits you get a bunch of favorites and hardly waste any time and effort on the rest.
Buena suerte.Thank you Uzinuzin. You are probably right. I do like wining and dining ladies, even if they are of the dubious kind. You are also probably right about a girl instinctively wanting to jump you if they really like but I suppose they will go through with the operation for money anyway, but without gusto. I suppose Elizabeth didn't have the hots for me. Oh well.
As for wining and dining the ladies, why do I like doing that? I suppose it has to do with the illusion of doing it. In Spanish, "ilusión" means happiness, joy while illusion in English has quite a different meaning. I suppose I am trying to unify both meanings in one go, something akin to squaring a circle.
You didn't seduce Jacqueline, it was other way around. Just because a girl has a day job doesn't mean she's not a puta. Many Sosua girls work during the day/night and you can find them in discos and bars pulling at night - some harder than others but they're mostly putas. Not wanting to ruin your fantasy or anything but if they jump into bed with you on the first night/day of meeting you, then they are. Even most of them are on Western Union (from various gringos) and still pull punters regularly (I called that greed !).I am sure you are right. I have a theory that those who shave before are working girls. The more they shave, the more puta-like they are. Jacqueline had the most hair of all but it was just a "landing strip" a.k.a. mohawk or Hitler's moustache.
Ana's uncle is most possibly her boyfriend/chulo. For some reason they are becoming very strict recently, last time I was there I see the chulos everywhere, a lot more active now. Constantly keeping an eye on their girls (when in bar or disco they could be standing/dancing just next to you !). They ask them to get more business, higher rates and get back home at certain times. Also at 2:45am there is just enough time for picking one last customer from the Casino (whom she might have spotted/arranged when you weren't looking) !?Perhaps, but they really did kick her out of the casino. Maybe she wanted to pick up a trick from somebody outside.
Cunning Linguist
09-02-07, 18:11
That is her, she has a salamandar tattoo and a pircing in her chin. My picture was taken in march of 2007 and i was with her several times toda la noche. She has been way longer in the business than 4 months, the owner of the voramar knows her too and he confirmed to me that she has been in the game for at least 2 -3 years so far.
Too bad that all the crack and cocaine has already fucked up her mind soo bad.
Elizabeth lives with several girls just accross the street from the fuckmotel CalypsusThat is so sad to hear. If she has been in the biz for 2-3 years, that means that she must have started when she was 15 or 16. A pox be upon the bastards that knowingly had her before she was 18. I didn't know that she was into crack and cocaine but having seen how her neurons work -- or don't work -- I would hardly be surprised. I wonder where she will be and what she will be doing when she is 30 or 40. In a way, I really do care about her.
Thank you so very much for the last photo of her. It seems that she was into a painted eyebrow phase. I am glad that she got over it.
Cunning Linguist
09-02-07, 18:14
I woke up early the next morning, a warm, sunny Monday morning in the Caribbean tropics with a tropical lady fast asleep. However, my mind was fixed on getting ready for my flight as I was that I would have to be at La Plata airport nearly 3 hours ahead of departure, something which I hardly believed but was not ready to chance it.
While Lala slept, I carefully removed my belongings from all drawers and the wardrobe. Finally, Lala woke up but I just smiled and gave her a Good Morning kiss. I think that she was expecting me to make a move for a morning pop but, really, strange that I look back on it, I didn't really feel like it. My mind was still in a tizzy over all the girls that had driven me nuts. Ironically, only Lala seemed to have been the sole girl that turned out to have been mentally balanced, at least nice and normal and unjaded.
She took a shower, watched some TV, and, amazingly enough, asked for permission to leave. What a change from the others. I took a couple of pictures of her, with her clothes on, andI gave her all of the Dominican cash I had on me and, with a final kiss, she went out the door. A nice ending.
I got out my laptop to check up on my e-mail. There was a very unexpected one leering at me. I clicked on it to find that it had been written by Jackeline of all people. I had forgotten that I had given her my e-mail address. The e-mail read:
No pense que tu ele un mentiroso. Ele un falso
Besides the amazingly horrendous grammatical and spelling mistakes (the correct way would be "No pensabas que eras un mentiroso. Eres un falso, i.e. I didn't think you were a liar. You're phoney) that only a Haitian could make, I was struck by being called a liar and phoney by none other than Jackeline, a girl who had her own challenges with the truth and phoniness. I decided that it would be beneath me to reply and prompted zapped the e-mail to internet ether. However, I was stung by the message and memory of most of the girls in Sosúa left a bad taste in my mouth but Lala's athletic performance and stellar attitude really more than made up for it all.
I took a final look at my things, not wanting to leave anything between. In my leg-stash wallet, I unexpectedly came across a thousand pesos. It was about 8:30 in the morning and so I decided to take a camera with me and take a final stroll into Sosúa. I walked down to the nearly deserted beach, took some photos, and went back up town. Suddenly, somebody called me by my name. I looked behind and saw Eduardo, the Dominican guy who had walked with me to "La Bomba" where Ana was to meet me. He seemed to be so happy to see me although I had a rather well-founded suspicion why.
Eduardo started praising me, unctuously telling me what a nice guy I was, how lucky he was to have met me, how wonderful Spain is, how nicely I dressed, etc. He gradually worked his way to the expected pitch: could I give him 300 pesos to rent a room for the day? He was short on cash. Since I hadn't expected to find the 1,000 pesos in my room, I didn't really care. Besides, it was nice just to talk to a Dominican man who knew the tourist biz.
I invited him to a drink and he said he would have a coffee. I ordered a Presidente for breakfast, the breakfast of "campeones". The waiter brought it and the bottle was so intensely cold that the beer was half slush. However, it quickly melted in the now sweltering morning heat and the fine barley and hops brew really went down well. So well in fact that Eduardo said that he would have the same rather than a coffee.
Eduardo asked me about what I thought about Sosúa. I told him in a very diplomatic way that I found that most of the girls were less than honest, perhaps even a bit on the treacherous side. He laughed and told me that I would have to meet real Dominican girls. I mentioned out of curiosity whether "good" Dominican girls make a point of shaving down below. Eduardo laughed saying, "eso es cosa de putas. Las buenas chicas no hacen eso" (Only putas do that, good girls don't do such things).
I told him about Lala and he said that he knew her. Hmmm, I thought to myself. She was a puta, that is for sure, he said, but a nice one. Hmmm. Then Eduardo told me that if I came next year, he would fix me up with some really nice girls. I was, and am, intrigued by the prospect. I am still thinking about it.
I gave Eduardo his money and he took off, thanking me over and over and urging me to write him about the girls he would fix me up with. At that moment, someone else called out my name. It was a Dominican girl but, at first, I didn't know who it was. She told me to be sure to say hello to my mother for her and then, after a big smile, she walked away. It was only then that it dawned on me that it was none other than Elizabeth herself. She had different clothes on, a different hat and sunglasses.
She did not explain why she had stood me up the night before. She just wanted me to give her greetings to my mother. Go figure. Apparently, I had connected to her at least on one level and on one point. I had told her that I loved my mother very much and so, apparently, did Elizabeth love hers. At least we had that in common and she was deeply touched by it. The mind boggles.
I made my way back up to the New Garden Hotel and waited for the taxi driver who had brought me on Friday afternoon. He told me that he would pick me up at 10:30 a.m. Once again, for the third time, I was waiting for a Dominican who failed to keep his or her appointment. I was getting used to this quaint custom and took it in stride. At 11:00, I headed down to Calle Pedro Clisante and asked how much it would cost to take a taxi to Puerto Plata airport. The hotel people had told me the cost was an extortionate 30 dollars but that it cost 8 dollars to La Unión, a small town which is a very walkable distance to the airport.
Armed with this information, I walked down and asked prices. They mentioned 35 dollars but then I told them, OK, take me to La Unión because I will walk from there to the airport. People pay 8 dollars to go there. Stunned that I knew this, the driver offered to take me for 24 dollars. I accepted that.
Sosúa was a very interesting place. I am still debating whether I will go back next year. I now know what to do and what to look for .
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Livefastdiehard
09-02-07, 23:32
I have been seeing this young beautiful woman for 3 straight trips now. She has provided me the wonderful sought after GFE. This is a time when I need advice and I need it ASAP! She usually never asks for money, until that terrible day when I gave her 100 dollars at the airport just shortly after we left. She never even asked for the money. From that point and on, she'd want a cell phone, but I declined. Then recently she is saying that she has come down with a vaginal yeast infection of some sort. Now, that call came a week after I saw her. She claims that this yeast infection she allready had when I was there with her. But I never saw any rashes on her, no blood ever came out, she never complained of pain during the fucky fucky, etc.
She asked for 100 dollars so she could get help for the yeast infection.
Thats right ladies and gentlemen, 100 fucking dollars for that!
Does anybody know how much it would cost to get treated for a vaginal infection in the DR, including the antibiotics of course. I have reason to believe she is lying, but I could be wrong. What is the game that these Dominican Girlfriends play on us to get money? I am relatively new to this game, so I could use a little overview on the GFE tactics and strategies.
In the meantime, I wont be sending her any money that she requested.
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