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He paid 50 bucks to fuck girl half his age. Who got over? They both got want they wanted.
I witnessed a sucker being taken yesterday while sitting at the beach. There was a table of dominicans, three guys and two women. A short, thin girl with red hair (she had on pink booty shorts too) got a call from a gringo. She barely had any interest in the call and then gave the phone to one of the guys asking him to interpret. The guy told the gringo to meet her now. Then the girl said "tell him I'm hungry," which cracked up all the dominicans.
She got the phone back and began her Oscar deserving performance to get money from the gringo."please I mucho mucho hungry. Please help me.". All the while she looked around laughing. After it was clear the sucker had given in she blew kisses into the phone while laughing."I love you" she said. After hanging up the phone she immediately returned to her conversation with the dominicans before leaving to fleece the gringo.
By the way she was sitting in a restaurant when she got the phone call.
This was about four pm on the beach. If you were that gringo I hope you got your money's worth.
That ship sailed 6 months ago. I am just letting the fellows know some new meat on the street ann I am curious about how she rolls.
atOldfool. Are you another Capitan Save-a-Hoe checking to see who is banging your novia?
That is generally not what these web sites are for.
Mi casa tu casa.
Buscemi
ForceSteeler
06-06-12, 19:55
I witnessed a sucker being taken yesterday while sitting at the beach. There was a table of dominicans, three guys and two women. A short, thin girl with red hair (she had on pink booty shorts too) got a call from a gringo. She barely had any interest in the call and then gave the phone to one of the guys asking him to interpret. The guy told the gringo to meet her now. Then the girl said "tell him I'm hungry," which cracked up all the dominicans.
She got the phone back and began her Oscar deserving performance to get money from the gringo."please I mucho mucho hungry. Please help me.". All the while she looked around laughing. After it was clear the sucker had given in she blew kisses into the phone while laughing."I love you" she said. After hanging up the phone she immediately returned to her conversation with the dominicans before leaving to fleece the gringo.
By the way she was sitting in a restaurant when she got the phone call.
This was about four pm on the beach. If you were that gringo I hope you got your money's worth.Most Gringos are stupid.
Rollinglolo
06-06-12, 21:24
That is rather discriminating of you if despite being a non-native speaker, you can discern that Drai is an excellent writer. Perhaps we can invite you to teach some members here as to how to construct a sentence as well, given that some adults write at 6th grade level which does not bode well for this country but I digress.
How does one swing a 2 month break in the D. R? I am envious. Never been able to manage more than a week which creates a heck of a problem in terms of scheduling conflicts.
For your practical questions, I will entrust others who are knowledgeable on the subject. Enjoy the summer in the D. R and welcome to the forum!Well, I'm between jobs, my current one finishes this month and I negotiated to start the new one in September (where I'm from not much happens during the summer).
In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy your reports and gather knowledge before my big jump.
The Windex Man
06-06-12, 23:04
I witnessed a sucker being taken yesterday while sitting at the beach. There was a table of dominicans, three guys and two women. A short, thin girl with red hair (she had on pink booty shorts too) got a call from a gringo. She barely had any interest in the call and then gave the phone to one of the guys asking him to interpret. The guy told the gringo to meet her now. Then the girl said "tell him I'm hungry," which cracked up all the dominicans.
She got the phone back and began her Oscar deserving performance to get money from the gringo."please I mucho mucho hungry. Please help me.". All the while she looked around laughing. After it was clear the sucker had given in she blew kisses into the phone while laughing."I love you" she said. After hanging up the phone she immediately returned to her conversation with the dominicans before leaving to fleece the gringo.
By the way she was sitting in a restaurant when she got the phone call.
This was about four pm on the beach. If you were that gringo I hope you got your money's worth.Was this guy really a sucker? Chicks play this game and lie to the majority of us when we're down there, especially when you're talking on the phone. If the guy gave up a good amount of money but didn't bang the chick, yeah, he's a sucker. If the guy is regularly wiring a working girl Western union money, yeah, he's a sucker. Not being able to see through the phone and realize that she's laughing with her friends while putting on like you mentioned "an Oscar winning performance", does that really make him a sucker, considering that the women down there do that shit all the time. It's part of their profession, along with fake orgasms and telling tiny dick mofos how gigantic their dicks are. They will do or say whatever it takes in order to get that green out your pocket. They lie, we lie, but the smart mongerers don't give a shit, because we got what we wanted: our dicks wet from pussy juice.
However, we all know that there are true suckers out there. I remember a couple of years ago when I was banging a chick in my room in Brazil and then afterwards, her phone rang. She spent the next 15 minutes telling the dude how she needed more money wired to her and that she loved him. She also told the dude that she was at home watching television and "thinking about him". As soon as she got off the phone and confirmed that more Western Union money from dude is on the way, we laughed about that guy together (some Philadelphia simp who actually thought she would quit selling ass because he was sending over cash) , then I hopped right back into slamming that gigantic ass of hers. No disrespect to Mr. Philadelphia, but I paid to bang his fiance all night!
Terrible that there are so many guys out there who don't understand this. These are working girls, they don't love you, they love the green. What is so hard to understand? When I'm there, they get my money and in exchange, they get a shot of baby batter in the mouth. Very fair exchange.
In the situation as mentioned by Sunset, if I can exchange a cheap meal or the same price of a cheap meal for some pootang, it's a win-win in my favor, regardless of the fact that I didn't realize she was with her friends putting on a performance. Couldn't give a shit. My dick is wet.
Tempoecorto
06-06-12, 23:33
Well, I'm between jobs, my current one finishes this month and I negotiated to start the new one in September (where I'm from not much happens during the summer).
In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy your reports and gather knowledge before my big jump.Well, If you had told me nothing happens in August, I would have said you are from Italy but the whole of Summer, nothing happening? Hmmm. My only bet is that it would be a Scandinavian country or Germany even though I was in Hamburg for work in August as well as in Oslo. So I draw a big. Nada! LOL.
Here is the only thought I have regarding your question of choosing between hotel and a private apartment. Given that you are a self-confessed greenhorn, I think, it might be safer for you to choose a hotel in that the really serious hotels. Terra Linda is one if I recall correctly, retain the PHOTO I'd of guests which is a good safeguard. I am not sure if a private residence have such a facility unless it is part of a condo, in which case they may but I really do not know.
I also never asked anyone to spend the night. Got the phone numbers and arranged to have them visit me during the daytime. Daytime is safer and cheaper. Of course, once you get to know someone and you are comfortable which you likely would be after a month, you are then in a position to judge if you can invite someone / s for the night as well.
My experience with hotels in Sosua is limited. I stayed at a place called Romanoff once ($30 / night?) and another time at Casa Valeria ($50 / night?). Both were ok for me. The last is really a stone's throw (the other is a 10 minute walk) to the main street where action is but security did not check any I'd in either of these places. And guests were welcome.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1516-Photo-Gallery&p=1269239&viewfull=1#post1269239
Also check this. I very much liked the look of the place. Quiet private apartment and the view was. Well you see the photos; you can quiz Scotch who stayed there, about price and security etc.
No matter whether a hotel or an apartment, on long term stays like yours, you should / must negotiate the price. I am sure there are others on this board who will chime in with their helpful suggestions as well.
Buena Suerte!
Tempoecorto
06-06-12, 23:50
Was this guy really a sucker?I am one of those suckers.
I have sent money and worse, according to common wisdom, I have sent money to people who at least in three instances, I have not even seen during my trips, let alone getting a quid pro quo for money sent. In other cases, I have sent money and the welcome was superb but without any expectation on my part, of any change of their behavior. None of the people are from Sosua but no matter where they are from, there are no free lunches anywhere. At the same time, by being the first one to be kind, you set up an engine in motion. That of kindness returned.
My two cents of personal experience.
90% of the time these ladies are feeding there children and paying for a few meals is a good thing and no twisted your arm. Sleep well my friend you are good man kindness is a strength that only the good have.
I am one of those suckers.
I have sent money and worse, according to common wisdom, I have sent money to people who at least in three instances, I have not even seen during my trips, let alone getting a quid pro quo for money sent. In other cases, I have sent money and the welcome was superb but without any expectation on my part, of any change of their behavior. None of the people are from Sosua but no matter where they are from, there are no free lunches anywhere. At the same time, by being the first one to be kind, you set up an engine in motion. That of kindness returned.
My two cents of personal experience.
Rollinglolo
06-07-12, 00:06
Well, If you had told me nothing happens in August, I would have said you are from Italy but the whole of Summer, nothing happening? Hmmm. My only bet is that it would be a Scandinavian country or Germany even though I was in Hamburg for work in August as well as in Oslo. So I draw a big. Nada! LOL.I thought I was giving myself away, I thought we had a reputation for that! In France the schools are closed the whole of July and August, and with at least 5 weeks / year of paid holidays, pretty much everything stops.
Anyway, thanks for the informations. I'll definitely check the gallera.
I think you're right with the safety issue. I was also looking at Cabarete which seems to have a few nice hotels (as I said it's not just for mongering so kitesurfing is on the menu). And maybe taking a room for the night in Sosua when needed (I was considering going mostly to Passions which seems easier for a newbie with zero Spanish like myself).
Bonsoir!
Charles Pooter
06-07-12, 01:25
He paid 50 bucks to fuck girl half his age.I have this nightmare from time to time and wake up sweating. I dream that I have paid good money to fuck a woman half my age.
I never look at chicas over one-third of my age, and my target is one-quarter.
SavePros321
06-07-12, 01:36
I am one of those suckers.
I have sent money and worse, according to common wisdom, I have sent money to people who at least in three instances, I have not even seen during my trips, let alone getting a quid pro quo for money sent. In other cases, I have sent money and the welcome was superb but without any expectation on my part, of any change of their behavior. None of the people are from Sosua but no matter where they are from, there are no free lunches anywhere. At the same time, by being the first one to be kind, you set up an engine in motion. That of kindness returned.
My two cents of personal experience.I'm not going to be one of those guys who would call you a sucker, but as for me the party is over once I am back at POP waiting for my flight out of there. This is the exact reason why I do not give out my email or US cell number to chicas. Too much temptation to do something I would regret. The way I look at it, she is 18+ and whatever she has been doing all of these years to survive must have been working for her. It'll continue to work for her once I am gone as well. There is nothing I could do that would make things any better for her or change her situation. I've already done my part by paying for her services. That's about as much of a contribution to the cause I can make (unless she is good and I end up repeating with her). If the phone number still works upon my return then that's a bonus. If not, then it's not like I wouldn't find a replacement.
It's like a wise monger once said on this board: After you have rode all of the rides at Six Flags and have taken pics of all the fun you had, would you (in your right mind) send them a weekly or monthly check long after you've left the theme park? It's the same with p4p: you ride the ride (chicas) and take pics, but there is no need to keep paying for admission (via Western Union) once you've left the theme park (Sosua).
I have this nightmare from time to time and wake up sweating. I dream that I have paid good money to fuck a woman half my age.
I never look at chicas over one-third of my age, and my target is one-quarter.That really made me laugh, I can't do that yet though, much below half and I'm looking at jail time.
I have to agree with Windex, as long as you understand what's going on and you're happy with what you are getting for your money then it's all good. Thinking your money is going to buy you any kind of exclusivity is when you're a sucker. I read this forum all the time and I am dying to get down there to see it for myself, my boss keeps sending me to China and while there is fun to be had there it is definitely not on the same level and not my kind of girls.
Last time I was in Sosua I fucked 3 girls whose combined age acceded mine by 2 years. What a week.
I have this nightmare from time to time and wake up sweating. I dream that I have paid good money to fuck a woman half my age.
I never look at chicas over one-third of my age, and my target is one-quarter.
Charles Pooter
06-07-12, 03:10
Last time I was in Sosua I fucked 3 girls whose combined age acceded mine by 2 years. What a week.Don't be disheartened. Only missing the target by two years is not too bad. You will get it right next trip. After that you will be ready to move on the the Big Leagues. Four in a bed at the same time totalling less than your age*
*Do not attempt this unless you are at least 72 like me otherwise it could be dangerous for your legal health.
AlwaysHorny 2
06-07-12, 03:19
I have a flight on hold that lands in STI at 12:45 pm. Do I have to take a taxi to the bus terminal? If so, do you know the cost?
I ask because I'm bringing some newbies and a few of them want to know damn near every expense. These will be the same guys overpaying for ass! LOL
Tempoecorto
06-07-12, 04:13
I'm not going to be one of those guys who would call you a sucker, but as for me the party is over once I am back at POP waiting for my flight out of there.I do see the validity of Six Flags parallel (isn't it in MA or New England by the way?). It is just that when I landed in Sosua my very first time, I did not do any of these. I have moved since and so the game has changed somewhat. These are people who speak with me over various media. Not only their phone number, for some, I even have their cedula numbers and so forth. In one instance, I have been to a woman's work place. The ones I have not seen are mostly because, I have a tough time juggling slots during my short trips and could not take in any more people. Seriously, given the physical demand!
You are absolutely right, nothing one can do will change the lot for these women and that is why, I have no condition attached. I do not expect them not to see others. In fact I encourage it (so that they cannot be jealous of me seeing others even though I keep each in her watertight compartment) nor do I pay on a periodic basis and when I do, I make it very clear that no quid pro quo is expected. There are also examples when my offer to help was summarily rejected, because of fear that a quid pro quo is expected.
I do have to recount one episode though. I met a young woman, I think it was September last year. The proud mom came in with her baby. A little, I think. 3-4 month old boy plus her girl friend should help be required. I thought she expected too much of me so I cut her loose after that meal at a mall and did not stay in touch. Earlier this year, she contacted me, evidently she did not delete my contact details. When I asked her about her baby son, she said, the boy passed away. He had some problem for which she took him to a hospital where he got some new infection and never recuperated. I have to say she broke my heart with that. BTW, I have not paid her nor has she asked for a dime.
I'm not going to be one of those guys who would call you a sucker, but as for me the party is over once I am back at POP waiting for my flight out of there. This is the exact reason why I do not give out my email or US cell number to chicas. Too much temptation to do something I would regret. The way I look at it, she is 18+ and whatever she has been doing all of these years to survive must have been working for her. It'll continue to work for her once I am gone as well. There is nothing I could do that would make things any better for her or change her situation. I've already done my part by paying for her services. That's about as much of a contribution to the cause I can make (unless she is good and I end up repeating with her). If the phone number still works upon my return then that's a bonus. If not, then it's not like I wouldn't find a replacement.
It's like a wise monger once said on this board: After you have rode all of the rides at Six Flags and have taken pics of all the fun you had, would you (in your right mind) send them a weekly or monthly check long after you've left the theme park? It's the same with p4p: you ride the ride (chicas) and take pics, but there is no need to keep paying for admission (via Western Union) once you've left the theme park (Sosua).This is your best bet and what I like to do. Whats the point of them having your email or phone number? Of course I will get drunk and give it out once or twice a trip. I have a bogus facebook account so if I want to meet up on a return trip, they don't need anything else. Far to many veteran mongers sending money. You can tell them not to do it until your blue in the face but many will continue to do it. Some just feel it makes them more special and gives them a leg up on others. Make no mistake you get NOTHING from doing it. Its fools gold! I am convinced from my experience that all these guys are doing is driving up costs while driving down performance and worse the girls think you are a sucker. Think about that for a minute. You are paying alot for those short phone conversations and emails that make you feel wanted by some hooker in a third world country! For anyone that is new and reading the board for info DONT SEND MONEY!
Hillbilly69
06-07-12, 13:11
Happy to report your future bride is single again. LOL ROFFL
It's like a wise monger once said on this board: After you have rode all of the rides at Six Flags and have taken pics of all the fun you had, would you (in your right mind) send them a weekly or monthly check long after you've left the theme park? It's the same with p4p: you ride the ride (chicas) and take pics, but there is no need to keep paying for admission (via Western Union) once you've left the theme park (Sosua).I think guys may have all sorts of very good reasons to keep their DR sex life completely separate from their working life in the their home country, but I am not sure that an inability to see the difference between young and vulnerable women and mechanical rides is a very useful analogy.
Obviously when guys continue to send financial support in absentia, it is because they like the young women concerned, and have most likely met their families, children, etc. And want to make sure that they are okay and have enough to get some basics of life.
It is true that chicas often claim to have sick children, and one often wonders whether this is really true, but then again, I remember from my days as a manager in the US that sick children is a very common cause of women taking paid absence from work in the US, and it was generally considered a legitimate reason to take a days pay from the employer without working. Might this not be a better comparison than sending money to a fairground after having paid for rides?
For example, it is often discussed on this board that the tap water is not safe to drink in the DR, and certainly amoebic dysentery is quite a fairly common water-borne infection that affects many children in the DR, yet a visit to the doctors, a laboratory fecal examination, and one bottle of Amoebriz suspension could cost about 1400 pesos (300 for doctor visit. 300 for lab test. 800 for medication). These expenses are fairly low compared to equivalents in the US, but then again where do the mothers get the $35 from?
Yes, they can have sex with more men, maybe, if they can find men who will pay them, but even that requires financial investment in hairstyling, makeup, clothing, etc. And they may not be able to get the money in the time frame they need it.
So I am more or less with tempoecorto on this. If you can afford it, it is better to give unconditionally, then at least you will know that the child didn't die for lack of treatment when you could have helped. However you will have no absolute guarantee that the money was used for legitimate purposes, though you will be reasonably sure that your funds have helped the Dominican balance of payments overall and that your money will circulate in the local economy.
Yes, sometimes they will lie, and there may be deception. One board member who lived for a year in Sosua has said here that he believes that the vast majority of chicas are financially supporting male Dominicans. While this may be the case, I think the number is probably exaggerated, but you COULD be sending money to support a male Dominican.
So overall I would say be careful who you give your home telephone number or e-mail to, because if a chica asks for these, it is almost certain that they will be seeking some kind of closer involvement, and if you cannot give that, then it is probably better for all concerned that there is no open channel of communication.
On the other hand, one should not completely rule out the possibility of relationships developing over time. Probably the vast majority of expatriates who now live in the DR arrived as mongers, and yet it is probably true to say that a large percentage of those eventually settled down with Dominican (or Haitian) girlfriends, some of whom were no doubt initially encountered in the commercial sex arena.
Charles Pooter
06-07-12, 14:27
It is very hard for guys out of the country to know whether the money they send is being used for good ends or for chulos, drugs or unnedded trash.
Much easier for us ex-pats to check up. Would it help if I posted my PayPal details so that all you intending WU guys can send the money to me instead? You have my word as an English gentleman that it will go to a good cause.
It is very hard for guys out of the country to know whether the money they send is being used for good ends or for chulos, drugs or unnedded trash.
Much easier for us ex-pats to check up. Would it help if I posted my PayPal details so that all you intending WU guys can send the money to me instead? You have my word as an English gentleman that it will go to a good cause.Dear Mr. Puta.
I am a London banker who has been entrusted with the task of conveying $40, 000, 000 pesos to the heiress of an estate who shares the same last name as you. If you could check her ID and bona fides and convey the funds to the beneficiary, we would remit a commission of 20% of the entire sum on you behalf as a gratuity. Please send a PM with your bank account number, PIN, birth details, a copy of your birth certificate and driver license, and we will initiate the transaction on your behalf. The funds will be sent via Western Union directly to your local bank account.
Sincerely, Sir Roger Hardcourt (MBE).
Charles Pooter
06-07-12, 16:40
Dear Mr. Puta.
I am a London banker who has been entrusted with the task of conveying $40, 000, 000 pesos to the heiress of an estate who shares the same last name as you. If you could check her I'd and bona fides and convey the funds to the beneficiary, we would remit a commission of 20% of the entire sum on you behalf as a gratuity. Please send a PM with your bank account number, PIN, birth details, a copy of your birth certificate and driver license, and we will initiate the transaction on your behalf. The funds will be sent via Western Union directly to your local bank account.
Sincerely, Sir Roger Hardcourt (MBE).You're being silly! I was being serious!
Tempoecorto
06-07-12, 17:15
I thought I was giving myself away, I thought we had a reputation for that! In France the schools are closed the whole of July and August, and with at least 5 weeks / year of paid holidays, pretty much everything stops.
Anyway, thanks for the informations. I'll definitely check the gallera.
I think you're right with the safety issue. I was also looking at Cabarete which seems to have a few nice hotels (as I said it's not just for mongering so kitesurfing is on the menu). And maybe taking a room for the night in Sosua when needed (I was considering going mostly to Passions which seems easier for a newbie with zero Spanish like myself).
Bonsoir!What a surprise! The long summer breaks are true all over Western Europe (perhaps now even in Eastern?) so I was trying to look for language clues (a la Professor Higgins!) to figure out your provenience but you beat me. LOL! Last I was in France was Toulouse in October. A lovely day of Fall and few days later to Paris via the TGV on the way to Dusseldorf.
I have no clue about Cabarete but I found most info I required reading this forum when I first visited the Dominican Republic last year.
Re La Pasions, or Sosua, language is a relative non-issue as people here will tell you et puis, 'Je pense' est "yo pienso". Vraiment facile, et apres deux mois, il sera encore plus! In addition, there are a lot of Haitian women, who if they are schooled well, are able to speak your language, and to my limited experience are rather popular with the Quebecois. (Je vais a tutoyer, pardon) mais, en effet, si tu les aimes, il ne serait meme pas necessaire de parler espagnol.
A +
Tempoecorto
06-07-12, 17:35
If you can afford it, it is better to give unconditionally, then at least you will know that the child didn't die for lack of treatment when you could have helped. However you will have no absolute guarantee that the money was used for legitimate purposes.I do not want to whip the already dead horse any further but here is a summary of my personal philosophy, speaking of misery not only in the D. R: there but for the grace of god, go I!
ForceSteeler
06-07-12, 19:10
This is your best bet and what I like to do. Whats the point of them having your email or phone number? Of course I will get drunk and give it out once or twice a trip. I have a bogus facebook account so if I want to meet up on a return trip, they don't need anything else. Far to many veteran mongers sending money. You can tell them not to do it until your blue in the face but many will continue to do it. Some just feel it makes them more special and gives them a leg up on others. Make no mistake you get NOTHING from doing it. Its fools gold! I am convinced from my experience that all these guys are doing is driving up costs while driving down performance and worse the girls think you are a sucker. Think about that for a minute. You are paying alot for those short phone conversations and emails that make you feel wanted by some hooker in a third world country! For anyone that is new and reading the board for info DONT SEND MONEY!I never understand why newbies and experienced mongers send money? And some of these guys go there only 1 or 2 times a year? Understand these girls are working girls and they will fuck anybody that can pay them,
I Find it Funny because sometimes I will be in bed with a chica and she is stroking my cock while she is blowing kisses to her so called Boyfriend on the phone. Some Guys will never learn. They Think Women do not lie. As soon as you board your plane to your country, she is getting her back blown by another monger that just landed in Sosua.
The Sad thing is that most guys think with there dicks instead of using common sense.
Understand these Chica's deep down look at you guys as tricks, we are all tricks in there eyes, so deep down they do not respect you. Which is the reason why a Hooker will always be loyal to her pimp / boyfriend then a John any day.
Who Every Controls the Mind Controls the Behind. Don Won.
With Money you can only Rent the Pussy, But you can never control the pussy.
The drivers will ask for 1400 pesos, but if you hold out, you should be able to get a deal for about 1000. So what did you pay, now that you are there already?
I have a flight on hold that lands in STI at 12:45 pm. Do I have to take a taxi to the bus terminal? If so, do you know the cost?
I ask because I'm bringing some newbies and a few of them want to know damn near every expense. These will be the same guys overpaying for ass! LOL
I Find it Funny because sometimes I will be in bed with a chica and she is stroking my cock while she is blowing kisses to her so called Boyfriend on the phone. Some Guys will never learn.I would not put up with her making or receiving phone calls while she is on the clock. You are just too easy going.
ForceSteeler
06-08-12, 02:38
I would not put up with her making or receiving phone calls while she is on the clock. You are just too easy going.Well I don't mind its funny to me.
After a disappointing first trip to Passions, I thought I would relate what happened and see if anyone has advice on how I should have handled things. I stopped in around 10, and looked around; I wasnt overly impressed with any of the faces, but most of the girls had absolutely gorgeous bodies. I eventually settled one and caught her eye; unfortunately I know very little Spanish and she knew very little English. But I tried to make a go of it, which in hindsight may have been a mistake. I paid for all night, and we headed back to my place. The language barrier was pretty difficult, despite my phone's translator service. We had one session, which went well for the most part, but definitely no GFE. When it was over she got dressed and told me she had to go because she "had the key to the house, and my sister needs to get in." Then she asked for a tip as well. I told her (as best as I could) that I paid for all night, and you want to leave now, why would I give you a tip? That made her pout. I suppose I could have dug my heels in, but I was getting tired of this so I gave her a couple hundred pesos and kicked her out. Before she left she asked if she would see me at Passions the next day; I laughed and said probably not.
I guess I'm a little surprised because everyone claims that at Passions you know what you are getting, that it's a tight ship over there. But to be honest, I kinda feel like I got shafted out of over a thousand pesos. Was this just an abnormal occurrence there? Is there anything I should do about it?
With Money you can only Rent the Pussy, But you can never control the pussy.Sad news for you sport, it is the same as being married.
I don't know about others, but I'm personally tired of being lectured to in a sex site. Please stop assuming most of us are fucking idiots and lack common sense. The real fact is, people who actually travel have quite a bit of common sense, or else, they would be dead by now, me included. I would like to think that the seasoned monger could and would outwit any of the working girls. And yes I know, they fuck my old dumb ass for a reason, it is because they love Poppy!:D
ForceSteeler
06-08-12, 07:32
Sad news for you sport, it is the same as being married.
I don't know about others, but I'm personally tired of being lectured to in a sex site. Please stop assuming most of us are fucking idiots and lack common sense. The real fact is, people who actually travel have quite a bit of common sense, or else, they would be dead by now, me included. I would like to think that the seasoned monger could and would outwit any of the working girls. And yes I know, they fuck my old dumb ass for a reason, it is because they love Poppy.I am not trying to lecture anybody, I'm just keeping it Real. 100. And I don't try to change things, I accept them for what it is. Not all mongers are stupid but I see even veteran mongers make the mistake time and time again.
But This Video Best Explains the Whole Sosua Hustle, Is not only good for Sosua but everywhere around the world. My man CubaDave explains it so well. You should listen to the story's he tells.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzSgVJ5h1s
Hillbilly69
06-08-12, 11:09
I guess I'm a little surprised because everyone claims that at Passions you know what you are getting, that it's a tight ship over there. But to be honest, I kinda feel like I got shafted out of over a thousand pesos. Was this just an abnormal occurrence there? Is there anything I should do about it?You should have complained to Peter the owner.
Hillbilly69
06-08-12, 11:17
I don't know about others, but I'm personally tired of being lectured to in a sex site.Alot of preachers and Penis deputy sheriffs on this thread.
Manizales911
06-08-12, 12:56
After a disappointing first trip to Passions, I thought I would relate what happened and see if anyone has advice on how I should have handled things. I stopped in around 10, and looked around; I wasnt overly impressed with any of the faces, but most of the girls had absolutely gorgeous bodies. I eventually settled one and caught her eye; unfortunately I know very little Spanish and she knew very little English. But I tried to make a go of it, which in hindsight may have been a mistake. I paid for all night, and we headed back to my place. The language barrier was pretty difficult, despite my phone's translator service. We had one session, which went well for the most part, but definitely no GFE. When it was over she got dressed and told me she had to go because she "had the key to the house, and my sister needs to get in." Then she asked for a tip as well. I told her (as best as I could) that I paid for all night, and you want to leave now, why would I give you a tip? That made her pout. I suppose I could have dug my heels in, but I was getting tired of this so I gave her a couple hundred pesos and kicked her out. Before she left she asked if she would see me at Passions the next day; I laughed and said probably not.
I guess I'm a little surprised because everyone claims that at Passions you know what you are getting, that it's a tight ship over there. But to be honest, I kinda feel like I got shafted out of over a thousand pesos. Was this just an abnormal occurrence there? Is there anything I should do about it?Totally abnormal occurrence. If you went back to Passions the next day and complained the girl would have been fired for sure and you would be compensated in some way. What you should have done is tell the girl that if she left you were going to complain to the owner Peter and I guarantee you she would have stayed.
I am not trying to lecture anybody, I'm just keeping it Real. 100. And I don't try to change things, I accept them for what it is. Not all mongers are stupid but I see even veteran mongers make the mistake time and time again.
But This Video Best Explains the Whole Sosua Hustle, Is not only good for Sosua but everywhere around the world. My man CubaDave explains it so well. You should listen to the story's he tells.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzSgVJ5h1sPuhlease! This old fart is running a Web site and seems to be put out a series of infomercials for Passions Spa. In one of his articles he writes about showing up at Passions 30 minutes after his plane lands, finding a girl he likes at Passions, and taking her every day for the next week.
Well I don't mind its funny to me.For most guys I think that having a girl more focused on her phone than on the customer does not lead to a good sexual experience. If a girl seems preoccupied with her phone, checking her messages, etc. I would ask her to call a friend to explain where she is, and then switch off the phone until we are done.
However if you find it amusing to have sex interrupted by phone calls, you can have a lot of fun in Sosua, for sure.
ForceSteeler
06-08-12, 14:41
Puhlease! This old fart is running a Web site and seems to be put out a series of infomercials for Passions Spa. In one of his articles he writes about showing up at Passions 30 minutes after his plane lands, finding a girl he likes at Passions, and taking her every day for the next week.Old Fart or not what he says about RFM (Request for Money) is so true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzSgVJ5h1s
But some mongers will think its bullshit, and that there Chica Really loves them with all of there heart and are just sitting home bored, waiting for their return to Sosua.
Old Fart or not what he says about RFM (Request for Money) is so true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzSgVJ5h1s
But some mongers will think its bullshit, and that there Chica Really loves them with all of there heart and are just sitting home bored, waiting for their return to Sosua.No, he says something to the effect of: "Does she like me, or is it for the money?" without considering a more nuanced position that both are somewhat true and that the like / love may be on a sliding scale. Clearly when attractive young women are in relationships with older men it is for financial gain, but that is not so different from a traditional marriage where a woman is often looking for what is called "a good provider" for her family rather than a kind of idealized Brad Pitt type of partner.
He also assumes that sexual fidelity is the primary yardstick of a relationship. Again Dominicans often distinguish between sex for money, which is regarded as something undesirable but necessary for practical reasons, and sex for no money, which is altogether a much more serious issue. And again you might compare casual sex with condoms for money with unprotected sex in a relationship. Obviously if a girl has unprotected sex with another and becomes pregnant or gets some communicable disease, then that is a relationship killer. Just sex for money is neither one thing nor the other.
Overall he is setting up straw men to destroy such as "is she just sitting home bored, waiting for my return to Sosua."
As Tomjackin has correctly indicated, even marriage costs money. A lot of money.
Anyway this is a guy who, by his own admission (read the articles) is conducting long running "pseudo-romances" with 2 brothel chicas and patronizing a facility where the management (pimps) are getting a large cut of what the customer pays. In your other posts you have indicated your belief that the vast majority of girls in Sosua are supporting Dominican men out of their sex work earnings, and although I think you statistics are off target and that you overstate this, in the case of the girls who work at the Passion Spa, it is clear that they are supporting at least one man-non-Dominican, I believe.
I am not saying that there aren't girls who just rip off guys and run multiple overseas lovers to get income. There are such girls, but the overall spectrum of what you may encounter is much more varied and nuanced tthan this guy would have people think.
You may also want to note that from his Web site, it appears he is trying to sell some kind of e-book or guide to Sosua.
BoricuaOnline
06-08-12, 19:57
For most guys I think that having a girl more focused on her phone than on the customer does not lead to a good sexual experience. If a girl seems preoccupied with her phone, checking her messages, etc. I would ask her to call a friend to explain where she is, and then switch off the phone until we are done.This girl who was my favorite spent a lot of time with her cell phone and it was no good for me. During that weekend she managed to get 26, 000 pesos in 3 transactions from 'friends' from Europe and USA. What are 'friends' for?
I, ll be in the DR in a couple of weeks and she is not on my agenda.
After a disappointing first trip to Passions, I thought I would relate what happened and see if anyone has advice on how I should have handled things. I stopped in around 10, and looked around; I wasnt overly impressed with any of the faces, but most of the girls had absolutely gorgeous bodies. I eventually settled one and caught her eye; unfortunately I know very little Spanish and she knew very little English. But I tried to make a go of it, which in hindsight may have been a mistake. I paid for all night, and we headed back to my place. The language barrier was pretty difficult, despite my phone's translator service. We had one session, which went well for the most part, but definitely no GFE. When it was over she got dressed and told me she had to go because she "had the key to the house, and my sister needs to get in." Then she asked for a tip as well. I told her (as best as I could) that I paid for all night, and you want to leave now, why would I give you a tip? That made her pout. I suppose I could have dug my heels in, but I was getting tired of this so I gave her a couple hundred pesos and kicked her out. Before she left she asked if she would see me at Passions the next day; I laughed and said probably not.
I guess I'm a little surprised because everyone claims that at Passions you know what you are getting, that it's a tight ship over there. But to be honest, I kinda feel like I got shafted out of over a thousand pesos. Was this just an abnormal occurrence there? Is there anything I should do about it?I was there 2 weeks ago and had a ball Bro. Everyone's luck runs different. What one girl may do for one guy, she may not do for another. If you really it off with her then things may have been different. For the most part Passions is still a cool spot, and I will hit it up every visit.
DeepMmpactt
06-08-12, 20:35
Alot of preachers and Penis deputy sheriffs on this thread.Hillybilly 69, Damn. You are spot on, Its funny How many guys start preaching here. I agree with Tomjackin. I am sick of it as well. I agree 100 percent with that Cuba dave video, about chicas requesting for money. I guess the daysof this site going back to talking about Chicas are OVER, no matter How many times we try to switch it back to talking chicas. Tell you how desperate I am, I jump for joy When I hear questions about bus schedules CAB FARES, hotel questions. Ill take anything small questions, rather have to be preached too.
So from now on never mind about RTFF. All non preaching Penis Police question, shall be answered. All you Penises are paroled out of Penis Prision you have now been Penis-ly Exonerated, all charges have been dropped. You will be paid a restitution of all the 'pussy'you can buy in Sosua. Case dismissed (gavel drops).
So newbies fire away ALL QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED, IF I KNOW THEM, I would rather hear a redundant question over and over again, than being preached to by the old ass mongers (myself Included). Maybe we should try for the next week, ONLY NEWBIE SOSUA QUESTION shall be posted. I know I know I must be 'high'or must be dreaming. But It was worth a shot. You newbies take pictures once you're there at the crime scene. Church dismissed.
Totally abnormal occurrence. If you went back to Passions the next day and complained the girl would have been fired for sure and you would be compensated in some way. What you should have done is tell the girl that if she left you were going to complain to the owner Peter and I guarantee you she would have stayed.Peter is a Pretty good dude, and yes he would have took care of that in a heart beat! You paid for the night and she left, knowing peter, she would have got the Axe, or he would have let her have it. What she did would turn people away if word was spread. I think peter see's this board away, so if he see's this he will let the girls know about it.
Blk Big Bootyluv
06-08-12, 21:24
I see mongering is not for those that just don't understand having a good time, a short time thing. This is not a game for the faint or soft of heart. We can't save the world brother. Just our puta for TLN or ST. 26k pesos is a ridiculous amount for any puta to be getting.
We can thank these guy for the lack of respect we are receiving most recently, all over the damn globe, from putas that are skillful enough or opportunistically inclined to convince a guy that it is in his best interest to send a chica cash, one who is atleast 100 miles away from him and who will not be underneath him untill he catches a flight to see her.
Beyond me. Some say it is their $ and they can do with it what they want, the caveat to that would be YOU ARE FU&K'N THE REST OF US OVER MY FRIEND!
PEACE BBL.
This girl who was my favorite spent a lot of time with her cell phone and it was no good for me. During that weekend she managed to get 26, 000 pesos in 3 transactions from 'friends' from Europe and USA. What are 'friends' for?
I, ll be in the DR in a couple of weeks and she is not on my agenda.
Member #4480
06-08-12, 21:40
This girl who was my favorite spent a lot of time with her cell phone and it was no good for me. During that weekend she managed to get 26, 000 pesos in 3 transactions from 'friends' from Europe and USA. What are 'friends' for?These Sosua chicks are brazen as hell and have no problems running game on these suckers in the presence of their other 'clients'. I've had more than one trying to juggle my dick in one hand and her cell phone in the other (talking to you-know-who) at the same time.
Coolie High
06-08-12, 23:07
Curious but am I the only one that's rooting for the Sosua broad to come up on a sucker. We have this discussion about these hunnies getting WU money, etc atleast every 6months like clock work. So if any man with a little common sense and a seeker of knowledge should be able to avoid the common "Sosua gringo trap" by these hoes.
The problem is there will always be guys who will succumb to the power of pussy. And to be honest it is the greatest power on earth. Hell I recently had a client here in Vegas chasing after some regular broad all over the casino at 5am. Hes following her like a little puppy waggin it's tail. And this wasn't no ordinary client. This muthafucker is a BEAST business wise and is worth more then a "quarter of a billion dollars" and could easily buy and fuck any woman in Vegas and here he is chasing after some regular broad that's not giving him no time of day.
So like my man Tomjackin said we don't need another lecture. I for one don't feel sorry a monger (especially those that read this board cause you should know better) that got suckered from a so called 3rd world uneducated female LOL.
Let that Sosua hunny make that money on a dummy. Ya dig!
ForceSteeler
06-08-12, 23:26
Curious but am I the only one that's rooting for the Sosua broad to come up on a sucker. We have this discussion about these hunnies getting WU money, etc atleast every 6months like clock work. So if any man with a little common sense and a seeker of knowledge should be able to avoid the common "Sosua gringo trap" by these hoes.
The problem is there will always be guys who will succumb to the power of pussy. And to be honest it is the greatest power on earth. Hell I recently had a client here in Vegas chasing after some regular broad all over the casino at 5am. Hes following her like a little puppy waggin it's tail. And this wasn't no ordinary client. This muthafucker is a BEAST business wise and is worth more then a "quarter of a billion dollars" and could easily buy and fuck any woman in Vegas and here he is chasing after some regular broad that's not giving him no time of day.
So like my man Tomjackin said we don't need another lecture. I for one don't feel sorry a monger (especially those that read this board cause you should know better) that got suckered from a so called 3rd world uneducated female LOL.
Let that Sosua hunny make that money on a dummy. Ya dig!That is because most American Guys are taught from birth to put Pussy on a Pedestal and they have to go the extra mile to impress a women.
In other country's outside of the USA, The Men is more valued than a women. Women are worth shit especially in 3rd world country's.
I've been to Sosua once, but I live in the Capital. I've been mongering for 30 years. I don't get played by these girls, however, every girl that has asked me for money, I've verified their stories afterwards and they've turned out to be true.
1 girl who was the bartender at the piano bar in boca chica asked me to send her money via WU (I did not) she said she got into a fist fight with a girl and lost her job. She only asked for $50, I did not send it to her. Afterwards, I found out the whole fight story was true and she got her face busted up (what a shame, pretty girl).
Another girl worked at a pharmacy in the capital and while on the phone with her, she told me the pharmacy was robbed and they stole the owners jeep and all the money, etc. She again only asked for a little bit (but I don't get into the habit of doing that) she told me the boss laid off every one until he had enough money to repair the store and reopen. I passed by shortly after and the whole story is true.
The way I look at it is: what would they have done if they didn't know me.
I have helped others when it happens while I'm here and it's verifiable. Hairdresser GF got her purse stolen with 1500 pesos, I "loaned" her the money and when she was ready to pay me back, I declined.
Another one had her pocket book snatched and she had cuts and bruises on her hand and hip, I payed for the clinic 900 pesos.
I refuse to pay a girl if I'm not around to reap the thanks.
I guess I'm a little surprised because everyone claims that at Passions you know what you are getting, that it's a tight ship over there. But to be honest, I kinda feel like I got shafted out of over a thousand pesos. Was this just an abnormal occurrence there? Is there anything I should do about it?Do you remember the girls name by any chance?
The Windex Man
06-08-12, 23:47
After a disappointing first trip to Passions, I thought I would relate what happened and see if anyone has advice on how I should have handled things. I stopped in around 10, and looked around; I wasnt overly impressed with any of the faces, but most of the girls had absolutely gorgeous bodies. I eventually settled one and caught her eye; unfortunately I know very little Spanish and she knew very little English. But I tried to make a go of it, which in hindsight may have been a mistake. I paid for all night, and we headed back to my place. The language barrier was pretty difficult, despite my phone's translator service. We had one session, which went well for the most part, but definitely no GFE. When it was over she got dressed and told me she had to go because she "had the key to the house, and my sister needs to get in." Then she asked for a tip as well. I told her (as best as I could) that I paid for all night, and you want to leave now, why would I give you a tip? That made her pout. I suppose I could have dug my heels in, but I was getting tired of this so I gave her a couple hundred pesos and kicked her out. Before she left she asked if she would see me at Passions the next day; I laughed and said probably not.
I guess I'm a little surprised because everyone claims that at Passions you know what you are getting, that it's a tight ship over there. But to be honest, I kinda feel like I got shafted out of over a thousand pesos. Was this just an abnormal occurrence there? Is there anything I should do about it?My mouth dropped to the floor when I read this shit. Yes, you got shafted. The one place where I thought a game like this would not be played, would be Passions. Although honestly, I haven't done an all nighter with a chick there before but I planned on one on my next trip. I thought that by the fact that they had Peter over them and the fact that there's a menu which states how long the chica is supposed to be with you, they would be reluctant to pull some shit like this. The menu says specifcally how long you were supposed to have the chica. I wouldn't be surprised with some freelancer chicas doing this, but again, the menu says how long the chica is supposed to be in your room. Wasn't it until like 10am? As mentioned by other members and they are correct, you absolutely should have reported her ass directly to Peter. Hell, if Passions would have still been open at the time the chica split, I would have marched right over to Passions and he may have given you a choice of another girl, while also being on the phone cussing out or firing the chica who fucked you over.
As for that key / sister bullshit, just another excuse in a long line of excuses that chicas use in order to rip off a customer and avoid giving that customer a second nut.
Wow, and then on top of ripping you off by leaving early (you didn't say how long you were supposed to have her and what time she actually left) , but she also got pissed off because you were reluctant to give her a tip! DAMN!
Reminds me of a Classico chica who I fucked in my room, then I looked down at my condom covered dick and it was covered in blood. The chica never told me that she was on her period. I got pissed and honestly was freaking out and while immediately scrubbing my entire lower body in the bathroom, told her to get the fuck out. First she gave a covered BJ when I specifically said I wanted it bareback, then I have a red condom and guess what she said after I told her to leave: She wanted a TIP! She wanted a TIP! Are you fucking kidding me? Then after I told her why there's no way in hell she's getting a tip (as if she couldn't tell that I wasn't satisifed) , she then argues with me and refuses to leave my room. I'm not going to go into what happened next. All I'll say is she never got that tip. Some of those chicas kill me, man, they really kill me.
I was very pissed in that situation, but believe me when I say, I've had way more positive chica experiences than negative. Sorry that the Passions situation happened to you bro. You'll know what to do next time.
The Windex Man
06-08-12, 23:58
Curious but am I the only one that's rooting for the Sosua broad to come up on a sucker. We have this discussion about these hunnies getting WU money, etc atleast every 6months like clock work. So if any man with a little common sense and a seeker of knowledge should be able to avoid the common "Sosua gringo trap" by these hoes.
The problem is there will always be guys who will succumb to the power of pussy. And to be honest it is the greatest power on earth. Hell I recently had a client here in Vegas chasing after some regular broad all over the casino at 5am. Hes following her like a little puppy waggin it's tail. And this wasn't no ordinary client. This muthafucker is a BEAST business wise and is worth more then a "quarter of a billion dollars" and could easily buy and fuck any woman in Vegas and here he is chasing after some regular broad that's not giving him no time of day.
So like my man Tomjackin said we don't need another lecture. I for one don't feel sorry a monger (especially those that read this board cause you should know better) that got suckered from a so called 3rd world uneducated female LOL.
Let that Sosua hunny make that money on a dummy. Ya dig!Couple of years ago, I was speaking with a monger who cashed in his 401K to support his multiple Brazil airplane trips to get with a chick who supposedly had "the bomb pussy". You see, they had a relationship. He would one day marry this ho with "bomb pussy". I pray that I never bang a chick with pussy so good that I'll cash in all my future earnings and risk being 70 years old, broke, and living in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER! No idea if they ever got married. I only have in my life people that I can learn something from; I can't learning anything from a dumbass who only thinks with his dick.
Hillbilly69
06-09-12, 00:09
Couple of years ago, I was speaking with a monger who cashed in his 401K to support his multiple Brazil airplane trips to get with a chick who supposedly had "the bomb pussy". You see, they had a relationship. He would one day marry this ho with "bomb pussy". I pray that I never bang a chick with pussy so good that I'll cash in all my future earnings and risk being 70 years old, broke, and living in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER! No idea if they ever got married. I only have in my life people that I can learn something from; I can't learning anything from a dumbass who only thinks with his dick.I know a 52 year old that has 100k racked up on his credit cards with no assets that frequents Sosua. No retirement no nothing. Tells dudes he is rich. He wanted me to go in with another dude for a boat to keep in Ocean World Casino, my answer was nope. The other dude a pilot asked me a few months later about the deal and I told him unless you accept food stamps your not getting money from the other dude, then I apologized for spitting my beer all over his shirt laughing.
1 girl who was the bartender at the piano bar in boca chica asked me to send her money via WUGood spot. I just got back from 4 days in BC / SDQ and hit Piano Bar a couple of times. Between there and the beach, I had more than I wanted and didn't come out of my pockets for anything but moto concho fare after 3 TLNs. I did, however, take a couple of chicas for pizza on Duarte and also paid for beers at club El Batey and Piano Bar in between dances.
I had one really nice 20 year old redbone with no kids that I met during the day offer me a session, but she wanted 1, 000 pesos so I hooked her up with one of my buddies that was looking for p4p and had been paying more than that at the casas.
I think I'm going to do a North Coast trip before the year is up and stick in a couple of days in Sosua on the way to the river. From what I'm reading, it might be good to do a villa with some girls I bring up there instead of dealing with the increasingly hardcore BS.
Tempoecorto
06-09-12, 00:57
For most guys I think that having a girl more focused on her phone than on the customer does not lead to a good sexual experience. If a girl seems preoccupied with her phone, checking her messages, etc. I would ask her to call a friend to explain where she is, and then switch off the phone until we are done.
However if you find it amusing to have sex interrupted by phone calls, you can have a lot of fun in Sosua, for sure.What most guys? Everyone that I can think of would throw away someone who is on your dime but talking to someone else. I have not had these phone experiences in Sosua but here in the US, when someone shows up, immediately after touching base. The usual security game if it is first timer, the phone HAS to go off. It is a job and they have to punch in the time cards. And the phone goes off without even a whimper.
Of course, it may be different for a kinky guy who gets off with a girl speaking to someone else but that is a whole different ball game.
What most guys? Everyone that I can think of would throw away someone who is on your dime but talking to someone else. I have not had these phone experiences in Sosua but here in the US, when someone shows up, immediately after touching base. The usual security game if it is first timer, the phone HAS to go off. It is a job and they have to punch in the time cards. And the phone goes off without even a whimper.
Of course, it may be different for a kinky guy who gets off with a girl speaking to someone else but that is a whole different ball game.I woke up with a TLN texting with her BF (she didn't know I saw her) and then when she was sleeping I checked her phone, she texted him, about this gringo she had hooked up with and she was going to try and get another 100 out of me. I texted him back that I was the gringo that just nutted in her mouth and that he had to come to the hotel to get her because I was throwing her out for disrespecting me. I had hotel security escort her out. She pitched a fit.
With any working girl, you're paying for her time with you. If it is a TLN, I let them get the one call to whomever to let them know they are safe (or what ever) and then the phone goes off until I'm done.
Hillbilly69
06-09-12, 01:24
I texted him back that I was the gringo that just nutted in her mouth and that he had to come to the hotel to get her because I was throwing her out for disrespecting me.I had one talking to her boyfriend on the phone while sucking my cock with the loudest slurping noises you have ever heard. LOL
Tempoecorto
06-09-12, 01:42
But some mongers will think its bullshit, and that there Chica Really loves them with all of there heart and are just sitting home bored, waiting for their return to Sosua.I do not know about you but I have been at this since 1986. Starting in AUS / NZ. Place where it is legal and barring South America and Africa, I have been around in most places. Also in most places it is strictly a pay for play business and so it is fairly straight forward. I have no idea who you mingle with but any sensible person who does it for as long as I and others on this board have, do not have weird expectations.
My Dominican experience is different in that I can go after regular -the non-sousa kind but even then, I never call them non-pros because in my dictionary that word does not exist. This is not to flaunt anything but getting in with your eyes wide open and having a lengthy background, prevents you, not saying it cannot happen, from falling head over heels or having expectations of exclusivity or other things that you are speaking of. And then like a wise man here said today, even marriage does not guarantee you anything and often costs you an arm and a leg but I digress.
The Windex Man
06-09-12, 01:49
For most guys I think that having a girl more focused on her phone than on the customer does not lead to a good sexual experience. If a girl seems preoccupied with her phone, checking her messages, etc. I would ask her to call a friend to explain where she is, and then switch off the phone until we are done.
However if you find it amusing to have sex interrupted by phone calls, you can have a lot of fun in Sosua, for sure.TLN fans should make sure that phone is off too.
Anyone experience the slick thing that some chicas do when they get a friend to intentionally call her number at a certain time and then when the phone call comes in, the chica puts on an act, acting as if the phone call involved somebody who just got shot or involved somebody who was just in a car accident or she was just told that her babies are now very sick, all with the goal of leaving the agreed upon TLN early. You may have gotten one nut off earlier, but guess what, no morning time booty. So now the chica believes she is going to get TLN money for short-time sex and surely the monger isn't going to deny the chica the chance to get to her "all of a sudden" sick children, will he and surely he won't be heartless enough to not pay the full TLN price considering the drastic emergency that just occurred, will he? Oh yeah, before she leaves for this emergency situation, she also needs that extra taxi money as she lives far way (well, actually a short motoconcho ride away) and while you're at it, don't forget her tip even though she only gave half the service.
Then you realize that things couldn't have been that bad, as you see her at Classico's selling her ass again the very next night.
Oh, the games. Hey, I realize that there's a possibility that some of these chicas could be saying the absolute truth, but all the liars have made me skeptical on all of them. I still love those fine mofos though!
SavePros321
06-09-12, 01:59
Couple of years ago, I was speaking with a monger who cashed in his 401K to support his multiple Brazil airplane trips to get with a chick who supposedly had "the bomb pussy". I pray that I never bang a chick with pussy so good that I'll cash in all my future earnings and risk being 70 years old, broke, and living in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
The power of the P-U-S-S-Y,
Thatz why every mutherfucka in the world dress fly
Every baller that can afford it they cop the best ride,
For the power of the P-U-S-S-Y
(Let's have some fun)
The power of the P-U-S-S-Y, thatz why niggaz get they hair cut, try to dress fly
Every baller that can afford it he cop the best ride
For the Power of the P-U-S-S-Y
Pussy - Jay Z feat. R. Kelly:
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Anyone experience the slick thing that some chicas do when they get a friend to intentionally call her number at a certain time and then when the phone call comes in, the chica puts on an act, acting as if the phone call involved somebody who just got shot or involved somebody who was just in a car accident or she was just told that her babies are now very sick, all with the goal of leaving the agreed upon TLN early.This is precisely why TLN is not a good idea unless you have an ongoing relationship with the chica. In many cases they may agree to TLN because they want the job and the money, but in reality they have no baby sitter for overnight, or whatever the problem is, and they have no intention of staying all night. So they can't afford to turn down the job, but they can't complete it either. Instead of win-win, you probably end up lose-lose. The TLN may work better at Blackbeard's or La Passion because there is some kind of third party contract enforcement.
If you want morning sex, it might be better to arrange for a chica to come by in the morning. That way if she doesn't show, you are sleeping anyway.
Charles Pooter
06-09-12, 03:49
This is precisely why TLN is not a good idea unless you have an ongoing relationship with the chica. In many cases they may agree to TLN because they want the job and the money, but in reality they have no baby sitter for overnight, or whatever the problem is, and they have no intention of staying all night. So they can't afford to turn down the job, but they can't complete it either. Instead of win-win, you probably end up lose-lose. The TLN may work better at Blackbeard's or La Passion because there is some kind of third party contract enforcement.
If you want morning sex, it might be better to arrange for a chica to come by in the morning. That way if she doesn't show, you are sleeping anyway.For once I don't agree with you, Frannie. I have usually favored TLN. (I hate sleeping alone). And most of my chicas have been willing to stick around to 10am or 11am or later if they get a breakfast out of it (and I hate to eat breakfast alone too). Thinking about it, on the relatively few occasions when I have had hassle it was usually when I took a chica from Sosua back to Puerto Plata for the night. That might be partly because Sosua chicas are a rougher breed and partly the distance factor which would be equally relevant if it were the other way round. Obviously I have always tried to agree the arrangements beforehand, and have only occasionally got it wrong. Usually the ones who have wanted to leave early are ones I had had enough of by then anyway, so I was happy to let them go and save a few hundred pesos.
Do you remember the girls name by any chance?I don't, sadly (it was something Spanish and complicated, and everytime she said it I didn't quite get it because she said it so fast). I know her by her face, obviously, she was Dominican. I thought about marching down there and saying something, but at the time it just wasnt worth the energy to me.
One lesson I definitely learned in speaking no Spanish is to just not bother with a girl who also doesn't speak English, it just seems like too much of a barrier when there are other options.
Had no idea BC had that kind of talent. I the 2 ocasions there I saw 5s, that is hard to do in the DR.
Good spot. I just got back from 4 days in BC / SDQ and hit Piano Bar a couple of times. Between there and the beach, I had more than I wanted and didn't come out of my pockets for anything but moto concho fare after 3 TLNs. I did, however, take a couple of chicas for pizza on Duarte and also paid for beers at club El Batey and Piano Bar in between dances.
I had one really nice 20 year old redbone with no kids that I met during the day offer me a session, but she wanted 1, 000 pesos so I hooked her up with one of my buddies that was looking for p4p and had been paying more than that at the casas.
I think I'm going to do a North Coast trip before the year is up and stick in a couple of days in Sosua on the way to the river. From what I'm reading, it might be good to do a villa with some girls I bring up there instead of dealing with the increasingly hardcore BS.
Had no idea BC had that kind of talent. I the 2 ocasions there I saw 5s, that is hard to do in the DR.Don't get me wrong, I'm not going out of my way to big-up BC. I think I caught it at a good time and was lucky to find a few strategic spots. In addition, SDQ and places like San Pedro de Macoris are where I met most of the girls from, but I also caught girls going to the beach with girlfriends or family, which is something I found to be the case more for me in BC than Sosua.
If you are talking str8-up p4p, I definitely think Sosua is a much better choice for numerous reasons, especially for newbies. If I'm traveling all around the island, I throw BC in just for a change of pace but I can only do about 2 days in BC proper unless I bring talent in from somewhere else.
I just came back from sosua Monday I'm thinking about going back in July this time I'm staying for 2 weeks can somebody tell me where can I stay and downtown sosua for 2 weeks and don't pay no more then $500.
For once I don't agree with you, Frannie. I have usually favored TLN. (I hate sleeping alone). And most of my chicas have been willing to stick around to 10am or 11am or later if they get a breakfast out of it (and I hate to eat breakfast alone too). Thinking about it, on the relatively few occasions when I have had hassle it was usually when I took a chica from Sosua back to Puerto Plata for the night. That might be partly because Sosua chicas are a rougher breed and partly the distance factor which would be equally relevant if it were the other way round. Obviously I have always tried to agree the arrangements beforehand, and have only occasionally got it wrong. Usually the ones who have wanted to leave early are ones I had had enough of by then anyway, so I was happy to let them go and save a few hundred pesos.Oh, no, I have lost an endorsement!
I don't disagree with you here, but I suspect that both you and I speak Spanish well enough to be able to do an adequate precoital screening and seek assurances that participation in breakfast with tea, toast, and marmalade is de rigeur.
Manizales911
06-09-12, 13:26
My mouth dropped to the floor when I read this shit. Yes, you got shafted. The one place where I thought a game like this would not be played, would be Passions. Although honestly, I haven't done an all nighter with a chick there before but I planned on one on my next trip. I thought that by the fact that they had Peter over them and the fact that there's a menu which states how long the chica is supposed to be with you, they would be reluctant to pull some shit like this. The menu says specifcally how long you were supposed to have the chica. I wouldn't be surprised with some freelancer chicas doing this, but again, the menu says how long the chica is supposed to be in your room. Wasn't it until like 10am? As mentioned by other members and they are correct, you absolutely should have reported her ass directly to Peter. Hell, if Passions would have still been open at the time the chica split, I would have marched right over to Passions and he may have given you a choice of another girl, while also being on the phone cussing out or firing the chica who fucked you over.
As for that key / sister bullshit, just another excuse in a long line of excuses that chicas use in order to rip off a customer and avoid giving that customer a second nut.
Wow, and then on top of ripping you off by leaving early (you didn't say how long you were supposed to have her and what time she actually left) , but she also got pissed off because you were reluctant to give her a tip! DAMN!
Reminds me of a Classico chica who I fucked in my room, then I looked down at my condom covered dick and it was covered in blood. The chica never told me that she was on her period. I got pissed and honestly was freaking out and while immediately scrubbing my entire lower body in the bathroom, told her to get the fuck out. First she gave a covered BJ when I specifically said I wanted it bareback, then I have a red condom and guess what she said after I told her to leave: She wanted a TIP! She wanted a TIP! Are you fucking kidding me? Then after I told her why there's no way in hell she's getting a tip (as if she couldn't tell that I wasn't satisifed) , she then argues with me and refuses to leave my room. I'm not going to go into what happened next. All I'll say is she never got that tip. Some of those chicas kill me, man, they really kill me.
I was very pissed in that situation, but believe me when I say, I've had way more positive chica experiences than negative. Sorry that the Passions situation happened to you bro. You'll know what to do next time.I've pulled TLN from Passions more times than I can count and never once had one try to leave early, the girl that pulled that shit won't last long believe me, Peter doesn't put up with any shit from his girls.
One lesson I definitely learned in speaking no Spanish is to just not bother with a girl who also doesn't speak English, it just seems like too much of a barrier when there are other options.That might narrow your scope quite a bit as there are very few girls available in Sosua that speak English, and those that do are mostly limited to a few phrases.
Another lesson might be to learn some basic Spanish before your next trip. It is not very difficult and I would say that you can get the hang of basic level conversation if you set aside 1/2 hour per day for 6 weeks to practice. This would enormously improve your Sosua experience.
The Windex Man
06-09-12, 13:38
Oh, no, I have lost an endorsement!
I don't disagree with you here, but I suspect that both you and I speak Spanish well enough to be able to do an adequate precoital screening and seek assurances that participation in breakfast with tea, toast, and marmalade is de rigeur.Hey, just noticed your report count and just wanted to tell you thanks for all the knowledge shared over the years. Learned a lot from reading your reports over the years. Keep the reports coming. I'm sure there's a lot more we can learn from ya!
Charles Pooter
06-09-12, 13:46
One lesson I definitely learned in speaking no Spanish is to just not bother with a girl who also doesn't speak English, it just seems like too much of a barrier when there are other options.I see where you are coming from, but you are both drastically reducing your options and heading for a lot of poor value encounters.
Since my first few trips I have gone out of my way to avoid chicas who speak English (although, despite Frannie's flattering assumption in a recent post, my Spanish is stlll desperately rudimentary, I am ashamed to say). Very few chicas you will meet have learned any appreciable amount of English in class. Most of them will have learned it on their backs, and as Dominicans are slow learners that means they will have fucked an awful lot of gringos. The more gringos a chica fucks, the more jaded and hardcore she gets and the less GFE you get even though paying more money.
I have had the best experiences with young Haitians straight from the border-crossing who speak no English and little or no Spanish. You treat them right, and they are grateful for comparatively little, and they will be affectionate, submissive and honest. Six months later, after the same chica has served her time in Sosua, she will have picked up all the worst habits of the veterans. At first, just being with a gringo, eating at gringo restaurants, and staying in gringo hotels or apartments, is all strange to them and an exciting adventure. Six months later and it is just "show me the money".
The Windex Man
06-09-12, 13:51
I've pulled TLN from Passions more times than I can count and never once had one try to leave early, the girl that pulled that shit won't last long believe me, Peter doesn't put up with any shit from his girls.Whew! Thanks Manizales911 for confirming that the behavior of Google25's Passion girl is absolutely not the norm and is more than likely in that "rare" category. It may have happened before, but it's the first that I have actually read of a Passion girl pulling something like that on a TLN.
Charles Pooter
06-09-12, 14:54
I've pulled TLN from Passions more times than I can count and never once had one try to leave early, the girl that pulled that shit won't last long believe me, Peter doesn't put up with any shit from his girls.Don't disagree in general, but there are many examples of Peter taking his chicas side against customers who have been hard done by. Often we don't know the whole story and who is in the right and wrong but the idea that you are always guaranteed a fair deal at Passions is a myth, or hype. What is clear is that Peter will always back up his regular and high-spending customers like yourself because it is more cost-effective for him to replace a chica than lose your custom, year in, year out. But if a first-time guy makes a complaint Peter might decide the opposite is true, and won't want to lose a high-earning chica to appease a client he might never see again.
I would like to make it clear I am not knocking Passions. To keep the place going all these years is in itself remarkable and could only be achieved by maintaining a much higher reputation for customer service than is usual in the DR. Just pointing out it is not Camelot, and Peter will not automatically take the word of a customer over that of an employee, whether it comes to poor service in the cama or short-changing at the bar. But regular, high-spenders will always be given the benfit of the doubt. No difference from any other business really.
Manizales911
06-09-12, 15:29
Don't disagree in general, but there are many examples of Peter taking his chicas side against customers who have been hard done by. Often we don't know the whole story and who is in the right and wrong but the idea that you are always guaranteed a fair deal at Passions is a myth, or hype. What is clear is that Peter will always back up his regular and high-spending customers like yourself because it is more cost-effective for him to replace a chica than lose your custom, year in, year out. But if a first-time guy makes a complaint Peter might decide the opposite is true, and won't want to lose a high-earning chica to appease a client he might never see again.
I would like to make it clear I am not knocking Passions. To keep the place going all these years is in itself remarkable and could only be achieved by maintaining a much higher reputation for customer service than is usual in the DR. Just pointing out it is not Camelot, and Peter will not automatically take the word of a customer over that of an employee, whether it comes to poor service in the cama or short-changing at the bar. But regular, high-spenders will always be given the benfit of the doubt. No difference from any other business really.I don't totally disagree with what you are saying Sir Charles but a high earning girl would NEVER GET to be a high earning girl at Passions if she was paid for TLN and left after a couple hours, she would be fired in short order. We have to remember though that sometimes a customer complaint about bad service is a subjective complaint, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but if he took her out for TLN and she went home before 10:00 a. M. Then that is clearly ripping off the customer and I would bet money that Peter would never put up with that kind of behavior from any girl regardless of the customer. I have personally witnessed a girl fired on the spot for trying to give a customer a covered BJ, BBBJ is a requirement from the girls, I have heard this straight from Peter's mouth. On the other hand maybe Mr. Goggles didn't tell the whole story and the girl left for a valid reason, I am not saying I think that happened but based on my vast experience pulling girls from that establishment and having almost nothing short of consistent quality service one has to think that it is a slight possibility.
Hey, just noticed your report count and just wanted to tell you thanks for all the knowledge shared over the years. Learned a lot from reading your reports over the years. Keep the reports coming. I'm sure there's a lot more we can learn from ya!Thanks, although possible 1000 reports here qualifies me for the Hall of Shame.
1. I am planning my first trip to dr in July.
2. I think Peter should care about the not so regulars because of the popularity of this forum for his area. (and I think he must or you would hear bad reports all the time)
3. I don't see how he could not take your side if you show up an hour later with no Chica you paid tln price for.
4. Has anyone had a time where Peter was not on your side? I don't blame him for sticking up for a good Chica if you wait till the next day but you still have to report so he can know he has a bad apple if she keeps getting these reports. I'm sure he can't run a tight ship if we don't let him know they screwed us.
Riky Rapido
06-09-12, 15:53
I see where you are coming from, but you are both drastically reducing your options and heading for a lot of poor value encounters.
Since my first few trips I have gone out of my way to avoid chicas who speak English (although, despite Frannie's flattering assumption in a recent post, my Spanish is stlll desperately rudimentary, I am ashamed to say). Very few chicas you will meet have learned any appreciable amount of English in class. Most of them will have learned it on their backs, and as Dominicans are slow learners that means they will have fucked an awful lot of gringos. The more gringos a chica fucks, the more jaded and hardcore she gets and the less GFE you get even though paying more money.
I have had the best experiences with young Haitians straight from the border-crossing who speak no English and little or no Spanish. You treat them right, and they are grateful for comparatively little, and they will be affectionate, submissive and honest. Six months later, after the same chica has served her time in Sosua, she will have picked up all the worst habits of the veterans. At first, just being with a gringo, eating at gringo restaurants, and staying in gringo hotels or apartments, is all strange to them and an exciting adventure. Six months later and it is just "show me the money".I happened along twin look-a-likes, sisters, Haitiana, one street wise the other fresh off the bus the same day, almost no Spanish, the bells and whistles went off and I had a great time with a beautiful lady. Her first white meat. Time will change her.
The Windex Man
06-09-12, 16:24
I don't totally disagree with what you are saying Sir Charles but a high earning girl would NEVER GET to be a high earning girl at Passions if she was paid for TLN and left after a couple hours, she would be fired in short order. We have to remember though that sometimes a customer complaint about bad service is a subjective complaint, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but if he took her out for TLN and she went home before 10:00 a. M. Then that is clearly ripping off the customer and I would bet money that Peter would never put up with that kind of behavior from any girl regardless of the customer. I have personally witnessed a girl fired on the spot for trying to give a customer a covered BJ, BBBJ is a requirement from the girls, I have heard this straight from Peter's mouth. On the other hand maybe Mr. Goggles didn't tell the whole story and the girl left for a valid reason, I am not saying I think that happened but based on my vast experience pulling girls from that establishment and having almost nothing short of consistent quality service one has to think that it is a slight possibility.Manizales911, since you have a lot of experience with doing TLN's with Passion girls, can you tell me on average how many pops you get with this overnight. Until 10am in the morning thing? Since there's a la passion's rule concerning BBBJ's, I'm curious if there is also a rule on pops. Is it a standard 2? One at night and one in the morning, sex anytime you tap the chica on the ass, or does it just all depend on what you and the chica discuss and agree on before she gets to your room?
That is because most American Guys are taught from birth to put Pussy on a Pedestal and they have to go the extra mile to impress a women.
In other country's outside of the USA, The Men is more valued than a women. Women are worth shit especially in 3rd world country's.Absolute bullshit!
It is because some of us respect women, and no matter what their situation might be.
Apparently, you don't, which is quite sad.
I probably gave her more than $500 on my 3 days and sosua I only spent Friday night with her next day she told me her daughter sick blablabla LOL.Where did you stay at during the trip above?
There are numerous options, depending on whether you want a hotel, apartment, etc. Have you checked the Sosua hotel thread? There are places as low as $25 a night and some with good weekly rates, depending on the kind of conditions you like.
Manizales911
06-09-12, 20:23
Manizales911, since you have a lot of experience with doing TLN's with Passion girls, can you tell me on average how many pops you get with this overnight. Until 10am in the morning thing? Since there's a la passion's rule concerning BBBJ's, I'm curious if there is also a rule on pops. Is it a standard 2? One at night and one in the morning, sex anytime you tap the chica on the ass, or does it just all depend on what you and the chica discuss and agree on before she gets to your room?Don't know if there is a rule on this or not. My experience has varied from girl to girl and it also depends on me, hahaha. I have had girls that were up for as many as I could muster and others that had to be coaxed into a third. I drink quite a bit when I am in the DR because I am on vacation and hardly ever drink when at home, combine this with my age and the warm weather and some days / nights I can't go past the two.
Some advise on Passions. If you are only looking to take a girl out for TLN at the "lower" price of 2500 pesos which is after 1:00 a. M. You will be picking from the bottom of the Passions barrel on any Friday or Saturday and many other nights as well. Some week day nights there are still some lookers there at that time though. I like to drink there because I know some of the regulars and it is a fun place to party so I get there early and pick out three of four in my mind that I would like to take. When there is only one of those three or four left I pull the trigger and have her punch out, she is mine at that point. Sometimes we will sit at Passions and drink for a bit, I might ask her if she is hungry and we will go for something to eat or go dancing, whatever she wants to do, for a couple hours that is, because after that it is time for me to take charge which means usually we are going to go to my room or villa. If it is before 10 pmI won't pull a girl from Passions because it is too expensive, if all my picks are gone before 10 I reach for my little black book (read DR cell phone) and start dialing up some of my "friends" from all the years of going to the DR or take a walk around town and see what and who is around. This is just the way I roll, to each his own.
Where did you stay at during the trip above?
There are numerous options, depending on whether you want a hotel, apartment, etc. Have you checked the Sosua hotel thread? There are places as low as $25 a night and some with good weekly rates, depending on the kind of conditions you like.I stayed at the garden I really like it over there but when I take $60 Ũ15 that make it $900 I don't want to pay that much.
Tempoecorto
06-09-12, 20:45
I just came back from sosua Monday I'm thinking about going back in July this time I'm staying for 2 weeks can somebody tell me where can I stay and downtown sosua for 2 weeks and don't pay no more then $500.I stayed at Romanoff. 10 minutes' walk to the drag for $35 / day. Rocky's much closer. Probably $25 / night. I suspect Europa and De Piero are in the same ball park. You may want to read the forum. Especially sosua hotel thread?
Tempoecorto
06-09-12, 21:02
One lesson I definitely learned in speaking no Spanish is to just not bother with a girl who also doesn't speak English, it just seems like too much of a barrier when there are other options.In a place like the D. R where even Spanish is mongrel let alone Good English, personally, I would run from any woman who speaks English, absolutely so if she is in Sosua for it is a serious tell-tale.
In Santiago however, I bumped into women who spoke to me in English. One time at a Mcdonald's. She was a medicine student at the expensive catholic university and snooty, rightly. The other one was from the same university and studies law and visits NYC. Clearly very different class. I also met a model at las colinas mall, who spoke to me in English. In all cases, it was clear they know the language not exclusively by sucking Dingo dick. LOL. The first two would beat many in intellectual capacities as well.
Hey Fellas long time lurker first time poster here. Although I am on the USG board as I have been mongering for years in the states. Well, I am finally ready to try some international mongering and after much debate between Costa Rica and DR, I have chosen the DR as my spot next month! Needless to say I am both very excited but very lost. Please don't blast me for the following questions and BELIEVE me I have RTFF! Probably too much that it has been overwhelming. So many choices / opinions / debates. Bottom line is I was hoping from some input from you Vets on what would be the best bet for me to try out.
Here is the set up: I actually want to do both some relaxing as I desperately need a vacation, along with some mongering. I'm looking at 3 to 4 nights. Having said that, this won't be strictly a mongering trip BUT it is certainly on the agenda. My questions are:
1. Where do I book my trip? Expedia, travelocity, etc. Or is there a website I am missing a deal on? And are All Inclusive packages a good idea? I have read that these are not ideal for mongering trips. But seeing as I want a vacation too, I wondered which are best and chica friendly. However, if going this route will be a deal breaker and mean I might risk the potential for meet chicas for mongering then what should I look for instead?
2. Are taking girls into the rooms at resorts really frowned upon and draw odd looks? It doesn't matter but just curious.
3. The tough question that I'm sure has many answers. Sosua, SD, or PP as my destination?
4. Through reading reviews on other sites, I have read people would get propositioned by chicas on beaches at resorts! I mean is it that easy? If its a resort that doesn't allow that, where are the best brothels / bars? Do hotels charge fees for taking the girls in your room?
5. Where should I exchange my dollars for their currency?
I guess I will stop there for now since that alone is a lot to take in. Thanks in advance for the help on this. Being my first time I have no clue what to expect or where to begin. I wish I could go out there like a pro after all I have read here but in reality I'm a rookie and at this point I just want to limit my mistakes and have as much fun as possible. I am fluent in Spanish, so I hope this offsets being new a bit.
Thanks
Tempoecorto
06-10-12, 04:27
That is because most American Guys are taught from birth to put Pussy on a Pedestal and they have to go the extra mile to impress a women.
In other country's outside of the USA, The Men is more valued than a women. Women are worth shit especially in 3rd world country's.It is true that in many countries women are less valued which is why brides are burnt, there is selective abortions of female fetus and acid thrown on women but is that something you would want to be part of?
Mostly, I do not understand this: if you do not respect women, how would you respect your mother, wife or sisters.
ForceSteeler
06-10-12, 09:50
Hey Fellas long time lurker first time poster here. Although I am on the USG board as I have been mongering for years in the states. Well, I am finally ready to try some international mongering and after much debate between Costa Rica and DR, I have chosen the DR as my spot next month! Needless to say I am both very excited but very lost. Please don't blast me for the following questions and BELIEVE me I have RTFF! Probably too much that it has been overwhelming. So many choices / opinions / debates. Bottom line is I was hoping from some input from you Vets on what would be the best bet for me to try out.
Here is the set up: I actually want to do both some relaxing as I desperately need a vacation, along with some mongering. I'm looking at 3 to 4 nights. Having said that, this won't be strictly a mongering trip BUT it is certainly on the agenda. My questions are:
1. Where do I book my trip? Expedia, travelocity, etc. Or is there a website I am missing a deal on? And are All Inclusive packages a good idea? I have read that these are not ideal for mongering trips. But seeing as I want a vacation too, I wondered which are best and chica friendly. However, if going this route will be a deal breaker and mean I might risk the potential for meet chicas for mongering then what should I look for instead?
2. Are taking girls into the rooms at resorts really frowned upon and draw odd looks? It doesn't matter but just curious.
3. The tough question that I'm sure has many answers. Sosua, SD, or PP as my destination?
4. Through reading reviews on other sites, I have read people would get propositioned by chicas on beaches at resorts! I mean is it that easy? If its a resort that doesn't allow that, where are the best brothels / bars? Do hotels charge fees for taking the girls in your room?
5. Where should I exchange my dollars for their currency?
I guess I will stop there for now since that alone is a lot to take in. Thanks in advance for the help on this. Being my first time I have no clue what to expect or where to begin. I wish I could go out there like a pro after all I have read here but in reality I'm a rookie and at this point I just want to limit my mistakes and have as much fun as possible. I am fluent in Spanish, so I hope this offsets being new a bit.
ThanksI Think you will like Costa Rica Better. Costa Rica women are more finer than DR Women.
Here's a Video on Costa Rica.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Webwym46204
Tempoecorto
06-10-12, 14:45
Here is the set up: I actually want to do both some relaxing as I desperately need a vacation, along with some mongering. I'm looking at 3 to 4 nights. Having said that, this won't be strictly a mongering trip BUT it is certainly on the agenda.1. Try Kayak. Com if you never tried it in addition to the others you spoke of.
2. Relaxing and looking for women are not mutually exclusive. Given the shortage of time, you can relax on a beach and get propositioned by women at the same time. If not, bring one or ten from the disco of the night past. By the way, it is true that women will approach you. The pro kind though!
3. Again, given the shortage of time, I recommend Sosua because you can walk everywhere including the beach. By not staying at all-inclusives, you increase your chance of getting hit on by women (mostly if not all- Pros) on the public beach and not having to worry about women friendliness of all inclusive hotels.
4. Now you can read the sosua forum for all the details. Others will chime in as well.
5. Given that you are fluent in Spanish, theoretically you can go anywhere but time or the lack of it is a deal killer which is why I would focus on Sosua. Next trip, you can throw a dart on the map and go there. It would be a piece of cake.
SavePros321
06-10-12, 16:12
One lesson I definitely learned in speaking no Spanish is to just not bother with a girl who also doesn't speak English, it just seems like too much of a barrier when there are other options.That is absolutely 110% the wrong way to be looking at this amigo. Like Temporteco said, if she speaks English very well then I would run the other way. Most of the ones who speak very good English are usually the most hardcore.
You need to be working on stepping up your Spanish speaking skills. It just works out better when you can speak their language and it also helps keep you aware of what is going on around you.
Way back in my newbie days when I did not speak any Spanish, my wingman (who spoke and understood a good amount of Spanish) interpreted a conversation the two chicas we were taking back to our rooms were having with each other. Although they agreed to Toda La Noche (TLN) , they were planning to skip out on us early. He is Chinese, so they probably thought he had no idea what they were saying!
I have had the best experiences with young Haitians straight from the border-crossing who speak no English and little or no Spanish. You treat them right, and they are grateful for comparatively little, and they will be affectionate, submissive and honest. Six months later, after the same chica has served her time in Sosua, she will have picked up all the worst habits of the veterans. At first, just being with a gringo, eating at gringo restaurants, and staying in gringo hotels or apartments, is all strange to them and an exciting adventure. Six months later and it is just "show me the money".If they don't speak English or Spanish then you speak French with them? I thought they spoke something else? Kind of like patois in Jamaica? I have been learning Spanish and searching the Dominican Cupid website with the intent to prearrange a girl or three for my trip but there's a major lack of very dark skinned girls. I think I would be a lot happier with a Haitian, based on both looks and attitude but it sounds harder to find than a Dominican woman. I don't need 3 women a day and if I find one I really like I'd keep her for the bulk of my time there so I would appreciate any tips you could share on finding the new Haitian girls.
If they don't speak English or Spanish then you speak French with them? I thought they spoke something else? Kind of like patois in Jamaica? I have been learning Spanish and searching the Dominican Cupid website with the intent to prearrange a girl or three for my trip but there's a major lack of very dark skinned girls. I think I would be a lot happier with a Haitian, based on both looks and attitude but it sounds harder to find than a Dominican woman. I don't need 3 women a day and if I find one I really like I'd keep her for the bulk of my time there so I would appreciate any tips you could share on finding the new Haitian girls.They speak Haitian Creole. You can learn it on Google Translate. It is very easy and is a fun language to learn as the grammar is very simple and if you don't know a word, you can often fill in with a Spanish or French or (maybe) English equivalent. Quite a few Haitians learn some French and / or Spanish in school.
You are more likely to run into Haitian women in Sosua that speak english. They are way more motivated. The average Haitian you meet male or female will speak more langauges then you. It puts food on there table.
If they don't speak English or Spanish then you speak French with them? I thought they spoke something else? Kind of like patois in Jamaica? I have been learning Spanish and searching the Dominican Cupid website with the intent to prearrange a girl or three for my trip but there's a major lack of very dark skinned girls. I think I would be a lot happier with a Haitian, based on both looks and attitude but it sounds harder to find than a Dominican woman. I don't need 3 women a day and if I find one I really like I'd keep her for the bulk of my time there so I would appreciate any tips you could share on finding the new Haitian girls.
Charles Pooter
06-10-12, 18:51
you only have 3 or 4 nights and you want to have regular vacation and a mongering trip? i think your biggest danger is faling between two stools and not doing either thing successfully.
with only 3 or 4 nights, sosua is your best option as everything is close to hand so you won't have to waste time or money travelling. but as you speak fluent spanish every part of the island is open to you and you could succeed where most newbie mongers would fail.
we are more or less clear on the mongering part of your trip, but what exactly do you want to include in the "normal" vacation, because that should determine your strategy?
swim in the sea? sosua.
[CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) (kiteboarding, windsurfing, etc)? cabarete.
historic buildings and museums? santo domingo.
hiking, cycling, motor-biking, river-rafting? jarabacoa.
drinking, sunbathing you can do most any place.
maybe you prefer your own company, but if you want to make friends with like-minded guys on holiday, then sosua is the easiest.
depending where you want to go, just book the cheapest flight you can get and find a hotel when you arrive. this advice does not hold if you come in a busy period, but right now most places are desperate for customers. when are you travelling?
one guy has suggested you try costa rica. much better for conventional tourism but more expensive. make up you mind which country you are going to, then come back here.
a big issue is whether you are on a budget or money is no object. most guys come to the dr not because it is the best, but because it is the best value.
another issue is what skin color you prefer. if you are looking for light-skinned chicas, then dr is not the best. try colombia.
Charles Pooter
06-10-12, 19:00
I think I would be a lot happier with a Haitian, based on both looks and attitude but it sounds harder to find than a Dominican woman. I don't need 3 women a day and if I find one I really like I'd keep her for the bulk of my time there so I would appreciate any tips you could share on finding the new Haitian girls.Where are you headed for? If Sosua or Puerto Plata you will be swamped with haitianas. Hard to find? You will have to fight them off. Strongly advise not committing to one full-time either in words or even in you own mind. If it turns out that way, then fine, but starting off with that mentality could spoil your trip. If you enjoy spending time with a girl and want her again, she will be available (especially if Haitian). And if she isn't, one just as good or better will be.
PM me two / three days before you arrive and I will get you started.
Charles Pooter
06-10-12, 19:06
I thought they spoke something else? Kind of like patois in Jamaica?Haitian Creole is not a patois. It is recognized as a full-fledged language and is a very interesting and logical one. If you are interested in going with haitianas, I strongly recommend learning just a few basic phrases. They are used to be being treated with contempt in the DR and will be amazed and delighted you have troubled to learn a little of their native language. Just a few words can open doors and bodily orifices to you.
Thank you all for the info, sadly I won't be there until December from the looks of things but I should get 3 weeks hopefully. First week is Sosua to get a feel for things then we'll see about trying somewhere else.
I'll definitely be in touch Charles, I'm never one to say no to hard won wisdom. Funny enough the Phillipino guy that works for us in China is actually named Charles too and I learned a lot from him there, seems to be a theme LOL.
Holy crap this is funny: http://www.travelinghaiti.com/haitian_kreyol.asp
I googled Haitian phrases and found this, I love that a big chunk of it is for medical emergencies especially that they felt the need to include "You have AIDS". It reminds me of that old old settlers video game "You have died of dysentery!"
Infamous Man
06-10-12, 22:40
Fellaz! Fellas! Amigos! Fellow Mongerers.
Do anyone know the name of a good seafood restaurant in Sosua.
Close yo New Gardens.
Want to get sum shrimp.
Lobster.
Fish.
Fill me in.
Also a nice place with some good drinks for guys & ladies.
I Think you will like Costa Rica Better. Costa Rica women are more finer than DR Women.
Here's a Video on Costa Rica.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Webwym46204Watched a bit of this amateurish DVD. The mumbling narrator continually refers to women as "bitches" and says the sex starts at $100 a pop in Costa Rica. He also explains that while you can get this information from Web sites like International Sex Guide, that involves reading lots of WORDS and, horror of horrors, PARAGRAPHS (!) , which is HARD when you can just buy the DVD and listen to his schtick on soundtrack with a few still photographs instead.
I have been to San Jose myself (one time a few years ago) , but to my mind for the solo first time traveler overseas, Sosua is a much better destination. In San Jose it is generally considered not to be safe to walk the streets after dark. In Sosua, no such problems. San Jose is good if you want to do day trips to the volcano or tropical forest. For girls I think you will have more fun in Sosua, but then everyone's taste is different. San Jose is all strictly business, Sosua is business too, of course, but more social and laid back.
Hey Fellas long time lurker first time poster here. Although I am on the USG board as I have been mongering for years in the states. Well, I am finally ready to try some international mongering and after much debate between Costa Rica and DR, I have chosen the DR as my spot next month!
I guess I will stop there for now since that alone is a lot to take in. Thanks in advance for the help on this. Being my first time I have no clue what to expect or where to begin. I wish I could go out there like a pro after all I have read here but in reality I'm a rookie and at this point I just want to limit my mistakes and have as much fun as possible. I am fluent in Spanish, so I hope this offsets being new a bit.
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[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1291644]Haitian Creole is not a patois. It is recognized as a full-fledged language and is a very interesting and logical one. If you are interested in going with haitianas, I strongly recommend learning just a few basic phrases. They are used to be being treated with contempt in the DR and will be amazed and delighted you have troubled to learn a little of their native language. Just a few words can open doors and bodily orifices to you. [/QU
You don't have to speak creole to wook up with a haitian girl because most of them I see and sosua speak english and they verry cheap compare to the domican girl I'm haitian I speak good creole I met this haitian girl last Saturday I fuck her every day she didn't even want to take money from me I only gave her $50 before I leave, she's verry good on bed her name is wendi she allways hang out at the new garden she's tall she have a tattoo on her back and she have her clit pearce.
I Think you will like Costa Rica Better. Costa Rica women are more finer than DR Women.IMO, women in CR are NOT finer than women in the DR. In addition, I don't think Sosua is a good representation of the best the DR has to offer.
If you are comparing San Jose to Sosua women, I tend to like my options in San Jose better because you have a mix of women from several different countries. I've been visiting Sosua for about 10 years and I've seen some beautiful women, but when I got to the Del Rey in CR I liked the quality and level of maturity more. I've also had GFE in San Jose and Sosua.
San Jose has a good nightlife scene and many casas / strip clubs around town for variety in your mongering experience. We all know Sosua has a beautiful beach, Clasicos, Pasions, freelancers etc.
I've had great experiences with morenas from Limon and also Colombianas in San Jose, for those that like women with more color.
Costa Rica is not for everyone. Just like Medellin, Rio, Quito, etc. Are not for everyone.
IMO, Sosua requires less than other mongering locations to have fun. In addition, the new "commercialized" Sosua is still less hardcore, on average, than many other locations.
The pic below provides an idea of what you encounter when you hit the mongering scene in San Jose.
Tempoecorto
06-11-12, 03:46
Watched a bit of this amateurish DVD. The mumbling narrator continually refers to women as "bitches" and says the sex starts at $100 a pop in Costa Rica. He also explains that while you can get this information from Web sites like International Sex Guide, that involves reading lots of WORDS and, horror of horrors, PARAGRAPHS (!) , which is HARD when you can just buy the DVD and listen to his schtick on soundtrack with a few still photographs instead.Sad! It appears to me, reading is getting progressively difficult, forget writing correctly in your native language and speaking intelligibly and if you do not call a woman, a hoe or a "female dog", you cannot get off. With this trend, the Chinese or even the Indians will, in another 50 years, come to the US to fuck the women (as we go to the DR now thanks to the greenback) as that will be the only business standing. Oh, and Mcdonalds! Clog to clog in how many generations?
Tempoecorto
06-11-12, 03:55
IMO, women in CR are NOT finer than women in the DR. In addition, I don't think Sosua is a good representation of the best the DR has to offer.
I've had great experiences with morenas from Limon and also Colombianas in San Jose, for those that like women with more color.But your picture while it made me sit up straight, shows only white women. Reading your post, I thought I would see a rainbow?
But your picture while it made me sit up straight, shows only white women. Reading your post, I thought I would see a rainbow?If I would have posted one of my personal pics, you would have.
I Think you will like Costa Rica Better. Costa Rica women are more finer than DR Women.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Webwym46204Another stupid fucking post! Most of the working girls in San Jose are from Columbia, Niagara, or the DR, which I've been to every country. So it is a lot cheaper to travel to those countries to obtain the local fare. The average in SJ is $100 for an hour!
ForceSteeler, do you actually travel, or just jack off on U-Tube videos? Please only post from experience, that is what this forum is about.
We In This
06-11-12, 05:54
So, I'm finally in Cabarete and have been here for a few days so far. I decided to dip into Passions in Sosua yesterday and after a few drinks, took one of the girls up to a private room. Her name was Carina. She was endearing, and although she spoke ZERO English, we were able to get through a conversation. I enjoyed her company enough to head back a second time for a TLN (overnight). The problem is, she didn't stay overnight.
After dinner, we headed back to my condo rental. She received a phone call not long after we arrived, and although I didn't know what she was saying, it sounded like there was a bit of commotion going on. I asked her what was wrong, and she said her sister got hurt and was in the hospital. Something about someone running into her, and her getting a cut. She didn't ask to leave immediately, but she also didn't stay the night. She left at about 11pm, after a dip in the bathtub and only one go-round. So, I really only had her for about 4 hours. Not to say 4 hours isn't a good chunk of time, but I paid for the night, and didn't get the night.
That said, however, I knew a bit more about her backstory (we talked over dinner) , and her as a person. So, I didn't throw a shit fit. But she could tell I wasn't particularly happy. That said, however, aside from the dissatisfaction in terms of time spent, I must have been more drunk than I thought last night. Because she wasn't all that great of a lay either. She had the nicest ass out of everyone in Passions, and she knows how to work the pole. But in the bedsheets, she kind of pales. She never seemed to have her head in the game. And, for me at least, I need some reciprocity to really be into it.
Anyway, nice enough girl. But not the right line of business for her. I don't recommend Carina. She has wavy dark red / pink hair, is about 5'6", and has the best bubble butt in the joint. But alas. A waste of money.
That is some Bs. All nite is all nite no excuses. She set you up like you were a chump. IF YOU LET HER BOSS KNOW HE would can her ass. You are making it hard on evrybody being so weak. Gives a bad lay and bugs out on you. You do not go nuts but you stand your ground. Have you read anything on this site.
So, I'm finally in Cabarete and have been here for a few days so far. I decided to dip into Passions in Sosua yesterday and after a few drinks, took one of the girls up to a private room. Her name was Carina. She was endearing, and although she spoke ZERO English, we were able to get through a conversation. I enjoyed her company enough to head back a second time for a TLN (overnight). The problem is, she didn't stay overnight.
After dinner, we headed back to my condo rental. She received a phone call not long after we arrived, and although I didn't know what she was saying, it sounded like there was a bit of commotion going on. I asked her what was wrong, and she said her sister got hurt and was in the hospital. Something about someone running into her, and her getting a cut. She didn't ask to leave immediately, but she also didn't stay the night. She left at about 11pm, after a dip in the bathtub and only one go-round. So, I really only had her for about 4 hours. Not to say 4 hours isn't a good chunk of time, but I paid for the night, and didn't get the night.
That said, however, I knew a bit more about her backstory (we talked over dinner) , and her as a person. So, I didn't throw a shit fit. But she could tell I wasn't particularly happy. That said, however, aside from the dissatisfaction in terms of time spent, I must have been more drunk than I thought last night. Because she wasn't all that great of a lay either. She had the nicest ass out of everyone in Passions, and she knows how to work the pole. But in the bedsheets, she kind of pales. She never seemed to have her head in the game. And, for me at least, I need some reciprocity to really be into it.
Anyway, nice enough girl. But not the right line of business for her. I don't recommend Carina. She has wavy dark red / pink hair, is about 5'6", and has the best bubble butt in the joint. But alas. A waste of money.
Blk Big Bootyluv
06-11-12, 06:31
The place directly across the stree is $25 but no a / see.
I stayed at the garden I really like it over there but when I take $60 Ũ15 that make it $900 I don't want to pay that much.
Avioneto123
06-11-12, 09:08
I had one talking to her boyfriend on the phone while sucking my cock with the loudest slurping noises you have ever heard. LOLWhat a beatiful gal. Dominicanas are so sweet and kind. I went to santo domingo 30 years ago and las dominicanas me volvieron loco.
Salud,
Avioneto
hey fellas long time lurker first time poster here. although i am on the usg board as i have been mongering for years in the states. well, i am finally ready to try some international mongering and after much debate between costa rica and dr, i have chosen the dr as my spot next month!congrats. don't mind the debate. you can have a great time in all of these places. dr is as good a place as any for mongering. everyone has their favorite spot (s) for various reasons. imo, it's good to try out various locations. good luck!
i do it cause i'd rather wake up to a view like this than skyscrapers:
So, I'm finally in Cabarete and have been here for a few days so far. I decided to dip into Passions in Sosua yesterday and after a few drinks, took one of the girls up to a private room. Her name was Carina. She was endearing, and although she spoke ZERO English, we were able to get through a conversation. I enjoyed her company enough to head back a second time for a TLN (overnight). The problem is, she didn't stay overnight.
After dinner, we headed back to my condo rental. She received a phone call not long after we arrived, and although I didn't know what she was saying, it sounded like there was a bit of commotion going on. I asked her what was wrong, and she said her sister got hurt and was in the hospital. Something about someone running into her, and her getting a cut. She didn't ask to leave immediately, but she also didn't stay the night. She left at about 11pm, after a dip in the bathtub and only one go-round. So, I really only had her for about 4 hours. Not to say 4 hours isn't a good chunk of time, but I paid for the night, and didn't get the night.
That said, however, I knew a bit more about her backstory (we talked over dinner) , and her as a person. So, I didn't throw a shit fit. But she could tell I wasn't particularly happy. That said, however, aside from the dissatisfaction in terms of time spent, I must have been more drunk than I thought last night. Because she wasn't all that great of a lay either. She had the nicest ass out of everyone in Passions, and she knows how to work the pole. But in the bedsheets, she kind of pales. She never seemed to have her head in the game. And, for me at least, I need some reciprocity to really be into it.
Anyway, nice enough girl. But not the right line of business for her. I don't recommend Carina. She has wavy dark red / pink hair, is about 5'6", and has the best bubble butt in the joint. But alas. A waste of money.She's just not into you. How was her eye contact, her smile, etc? You don't say how old, but probably very young.
When you get a girl from a brothel, you cannot really expect a girl friend experience every time. All night sessions are risky unless you and the girl really enjoy each other's company. Yes, she should have stayed all night if she was paid for it, but for whatever reason she wasn't into it. Maybe she already decided she was quitting the brothel the next day. Who knows?
Put it down to a newbie experience. Sometimes you can get together with a paid companion and have a great time, but it takes some skills development to make it work, and sometimes it won't work even if you do everything right.
The Windex Man
06-11-12, 18:07
So, I'm finally in Cabarete and have been here for a few days so far. I decided to dip into Passions in Sosua yesterday and after a few drinks, took one of the girls up to a private room. Her name was Carina. She was endearing, and although she spoke ZERO English, we were able to get through a conversation. I enjoyed her company enough to head back a second time for a TLN (overnight). The problem is, she didn't stay overnight.
Anyway, nice enough girl. But not the right line of business for her. I don't recommend Carina. She has wavy dark red / pink hair, is about 5'6", and has the best bubble butt in the joint. But alas. A waste of money.Absolutely appreciate the feedback!
There was a conversation not more than a week ago on this same subject. If you didn't see it, read up on it. Sounds like the exact same scenario. WHO the hell knows? It could be the exact same girl! Google25 couldn't remember the name of her La Passion girl, who left early on the TLN. Look, I'm sure that as Peter is the manager of that joint, he appreciates feedback and it's not helpful if a dude gets a bad experience but doesn't report the feedback to management. If these chicas have the mindset of that they can break the agreements and dudes aren't going to do anything about it, but just take it, they are going to keep trying that shit. I say again that if it's a freelancing chica, there's not a ton you can do, but bad word of mouth passes fast, so that chica will lose money and she won't get your repeat business. But a chica with a mamasan (?) or management over their heads, you should do more than just post the message here, at least try to mention this to Peter as well. I hope that it will at least help the next La Passion newbie. Hell, who knows, once Peter would have confirmed the information, he might have also have hooked you up with a freebie, so that he'll keep your business with his establishment. I don't know, but you have to try.
As you mentioned "probably not the right line of business for her", you may be right. Maybe if Peter fires her ass, it will give her enough time for find her correct line of business.
Does all this sound mean? Perhaps, but business is business and her selling ass + adhering to what the La Passion menu states is her job, unless we let them get away with them not doing their job and getting ripped off in the process. You paid TLN money for short time sex. That's bullshit.
Thanks again. One chica less I'll look for in July.
We In This
06-11-12, 21:48
Absolutely appreciate the feedback!
There was a conversation not more than a week ago on this same subject. If you didn't see it, read up on it. Sounds like the exact same scenario. WHO the hell knows? It could be the exact same girl! Google25 couldn't remember the name of her La Passion girl, who left early on the TLN. Look, I'm sure that as Peter is the manager of that joint, he appreciates feedback and it's not helpful if a dude gets a bad experience but doesn't report the feedback to management. If these chicas have the mindset of that they can break the agreements and dudes aren't going to do anything about it, but just take it, they are going to keep trying that shit. I say again that if it's a freelancing chica, there's not a ton you can do, but bad word of mouth passes fast, so that chica will lose money and she won't get your repeat business. But a chica with a mamasan (?) or management over their heads, you should do more than just post the message here, at least try to mention this to Peter as well. I hope that it will at least help the next La Passion newbie. Hell, who knows, once Peter would have confirmed the information, he might have also have hooked you up with a freebie, so that he'll keep your business with his establishment. I don't know, but you have to try.
As you mentioned "probably not the right line of business for her", you may be right. Maybe if Peter fires her ass, it will give her enough time for find her correct line of business.
Does all this sound mean? Perhaps, but business is business and her selling ass + adhering to what the La Passion menu states is her job, unless we let them get away with them not doing their job and getting ripped off in the process. You paid TLN money for short time sex. That's bullshit.
Thanks again. One chica less I'll look for in July.Thanks for the advice man. Yeah, I was considering going back after spending the day in Sosua today (scuba diving) , to talk to Peter. I stopped in while I was there, but he wasn't in yet (like, I said, I'm in Cabarete). So, I'm thinking of heading back over there to talk to him about it and get half of my money back.
Reading the other replies, I'll be the first to admit to being a newbie at this. Aside from the fact that I've never paid for sex before this, I've never even left the USA before now. So, brothels are a very new concept to me. They're wholly illegal in NYC, obviously. So, unless it's my NYC-native road rage kicking in, I'm generally a pretty affable guy. I like sex as much as the next dude, but having never had transactional sex before, I've never had to be particularly stern about it.
Like I said, I'm probably going to call up my boy José for a motoconcho ride, and head to Sosua now. Peter should be in by the time I get there. Thanks for the advice fellas.
Ath Trainer
06-11-12, 22:48
So, I'm finally in Cabarete and have been here for a few days so far. I decided to dip into Passions in Sosua yesterday and after a few drinks, took one of the girls up to a private room. Her name was Carina. She was endearing, and although she spoke ZERO English, we were able to get through a conversation. I enjoyed her company enough to head back a second time for a TLN (overnight). The problem is, she didn't stay overnight.
After dinner, we headed back to my condo rental. She received a phone call not long after we arrived, and although I didn't know what she was saying, it sounded like there was a bit of commotion going on. I asked her what was wrong, and she said her sister got hurt and was in the hospital. Something about someone running into her, and her getting a cut. She didn't ask to leave immediately, but she also didn't stay the night. She left at about 11pm, after a dip in the bathtub and only one go-round. So, I really only had her for about 4 hours. Not to say 4 hours isn't a good chunk of time, but I paid for the night, and didn't get the night.
That said, however, I knew a bit more about her backstory (we talked over dinner) , and her as a person. So, I didn't throw a shit fit. But she could tell I wasn't particularly happy. That said, however, aside from the dissatisfaction in terms of time spent, I must have been more drunk than I thought last night. Because she wasn't all that great of a lay either. She had the nicest ass out of everyone in Passions, and she knows how to work the pole. But in the bedsheets, she kind of pales. She never seemed to have her head in the game. And, for me at least, I need some reciprocity to really be into it.
Anyway, nice enough girl. But not the right line of business for her. I don't recommend Carina. She has wavy dark red / pink hair, is about 5'6", and has the best bubble butt in the joint. But alas. A waste of money.If she left around 11, and stayed for 4 hours, you paid a pretty penny for her. If you got her out of Passions before / around 7 for a TLN, that's a few thousand pesos. If she got the call, but did not leave right away, how much of an "emergency" could it have been? Sounds more like a planned excuse to leave early. Should have let the club know what happened. If she got away with it once, she will try it again.
Ath Trainer
06-11-12, 22:57
I'm just a couple weeks away from my virgin trip to Sosua. Was suppose to go last August, but the tropical storm postponed my opener till the end of this month. I like to do my homework to minimize my mistakes.
When I am in SXM, I buy a supply of generic V to take home. It's much cheaper than in the States. I have a bottle with a old prescription label that I bring to a) show to the pharmacist so they know what I am looking for. Be) put the pills in for the ride home. Heard someone say something about your luggage being check on the way home. I am taking a carry on suitcase, and a back pack. When leaving POP, is your luggage checked? Will I have a problem if I have 30 tabs of generic V in a bottle for 20 regular V? Not worried about customs in the US, just never experience the process leaving the DR.
Ath Trainer
06-11-12, 23:03
I recently found some Youtube videos and web site for a guy called Cuba Dave. He seems to frequent Sosua, and gives regular reports on what's going on there. He's a big supporter of Passions. Trying to get his opinion in perspective, but never seem to hear him mentioned here. Any ISG mongers wish to comment on Dave and his reports? Would like to get your opinions on him and his perspective.
I recently found some Youtube videos and web site for a guy called Cuba Dave. He seems to frequent Sosua, and gives regular reports on what's going on there. He's a big supporter of Passions. Trying to get his opinion in perspective, but never seem to hear him mentioned here. Any ISG mongers wish to comment on Dave and his reports? Would like to get your opinions on him and his perspective.I'm not impressed with Dave's Sosua "reports" or the Hobo Traveler dude either. I don't think either provides any information that isn't already readily available. Maybe in 2004 I would have found them helpful.
Manizales911
06-12-12, 00:31
I recently found some Youtube videos and web site for a guy called Cuba Dave. He seems to frequent Sosua, and gives regular reports on what's going on there. He's a big supporter of Passions. Trying to get his opinion in perspective, but never seem to hear him mentioned here. Any ISG mongers wish to comment on Dave and his reports? Would like to get your opinions on him and his perspective.When I first starting frequenting Passions he was in there so often I thought he worked there, hahaha. I don't know the guy other than that.
Manizales911
06-12-12, 00:36
I'm just a couple weeks away from my virgin trip to Sosua. Was suppose to go last August, but the tropical storm postponed my opener till the end of this month. I like to do my homework to minimize my mistakes.
When I am in SXM, I buy a supply of generic V to take home. It's much cheaper than in the States. I have a bottle with a old prescription label that I bring to a) show to the pharmacist so they know what I am looking for. Be) put the pills in for the ride home. Heard someone say something about your luggage being check on the way home. I am taking a carry on suitcase, and a back pack. When leaving POP, is your luggage checked? Will I have a problem if I have 30 tabs of generic V in a bottle for 20 regular V? Not worried about customs in the US, just never experience the process leaving the DR.Sometimes your carry on is checked but as typical of the DR they do such a half assed job I would not have any concern. I am sure they find the shit all the time. I do the same thing with the old prescription bottle but I check a bag and put in there. I have never been questioned about it anywhere and I have been searched up, down and sideways by USA and Colombian authorities on numerous occasions.
Professor 1
06-12-12, 01:16
Another stupid fucking post! Most of the working girls in San Jose are from Columbia, Niagara, or the DR, which I've been to every country. So it is a lot cheaper to travel to those countries to obtain the local fare. The average in SJ is $100 for an hour!I agree with most of this; however, $100 is the tourist price in San Jose, Costa Rica. If you speak Spanish, you can do far better. I've taken girls out of the Hotel Del Rey for less, but I had a house in a condo community. As with any location, you have to bargain.
Professor 1
06-12-12, 01:20
I recently found some Youtube videos and web site for a guy called Cuba Dave. He seems to frequent Sosua, and gives regular reports on what's going on there. He's a big supporter of Passions. Trying to get his opinion in perspective, but never seem to hear him mentioned here. Any ISG mongers wish to comment on Dave and his reports? Would like to get your opinions on him and his perspective.Cuba Dave was popular on the Costa Rica Tica (CRT) site. He is well travelled and gave good reports about several countries. If you are a Costa Rica fan, than CRT would be the site for you. You could then do a search for Cuba Dave.
Cuba Dave was popular on the Costa Rica Tica (CRT) site. He is well travelled and gave good reports about several countries. If you are a Costa Rica fan, than CRT would be the site for you. You could then do a search for Cuba Dave.I agree 100%. While I find his info on Sosua useless, he's done some nice work on Rio and Costa Rica.
Mr Enternational
06-12-12, 01:27
When I am in SXM, I buy a supply of generic V to take home. It's much cheaper than in the States. I have a bottle with a old prescription label that I bring to a) show to the pharmacist so they know what I am looking for. Be) put the pills in for the ride home. Heard someone say something about your luggage being check on the way home. I am taking a carry on suitcase, and a back pack. When leaving POP, is your luggage checked? Will I have a problem if I have 30 tabs of generic V in a bottle for 20 regular V? Not worried about customs in the US, just never experience the process leaving the DR.Just put it in your carry on. You won't have any problems. I bring boxes of the stuff back from Thailand to sell and no problem yet. If they search your stuff they are looking for illegal narcotics. They don't give a fuck about dick pellets.
IMHO Sosua is now just like BC.
The police were locking up hatian single girls my 1st two nights.
Everybody was begging from some expats, police, little children, girls and domican guys.
It was slow this week everywhere was empty except for the bars and classico at night.
The beach was dead. I stayed at the terra Lina is was ok. The NG had girls on deck every day.
Sat a Binki contest at the Sea breeze was ok. Mon tru Wed girls were at all the bars and Classico it was like 7 to 1.
In a buyer maket girls were girls were going for 1500 to 2000 for all night yet guys were paying 4 and 5k.
I now know why the vet keep thier places and girls secert. Lastly My expat from DC who paid 200us for Ana and she only stay 2 hours next time your listern to me.
BTW passion had all slim girls when I went on Sat not my type but most were cute. CMP had some busted old maids.
Classio had some nice 10 and a bunch of 2. I do not want to hear that girls are hungry in Sosua I never saw so many fat out shape woman in my life.
I love thick woman not fat this pic of D? Is as big as I will go 2000 pacos all night with 2 pop and a great massage. Fellows unless your a newbee go to sosua before its too late. The end is near drugs and the new mayor.
Have got some of these girl going mad.
SavePros321
06-12-12, 02:46
I love thick woman not fat this pic of D? Is as big as I will go 2000 pacos all night with 2 pop and a great massage. (In my best Dave Chapelle voice) : Yo Scotch, I hit that too dawg :D.
In a buyer maket girls were girls were going for 1500 to 2000 for all night yet guys were paying 4 and 5k.
I now know why the vet keep thier places and girls secert.Best short report I've read in awhile because you provided your analysis of the situation. I especially like the points you raised above. I actually don't mind the crackdown for various reasons, but I can understand why others are against it. The thought of guys paying 5k for 1k putas used to make me cringe but I realized I have too many options to worry about guys paying 5k at Clasicos or Cien in the Del Rey in CR. If these girls can get that from some gringos, more power to them.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-12-12, 03:49
The thought of guys paying 5k for 1k putas used to make me cringe but I realized I have too many options to worry about guys paying 5k at Clasicos or Cien in the Del Rey in CR. If these girls can get that from some gringos, more power to them.DITTO, As long as we have the experience and know how to NOT pay those prices, let those girls get over, good for them lol. We take comfort in the fact that we don't! Thank god there are plenty of chicas in sosua to haggle with.
Beagle0030
06-12-12, 03:56
Sat a Binki contest at the Sea breeze was ok. Mon tru Wed girls were at all the bars and Classico it was like 7 to 1.
In a buyer maket girls were girls were going for 1500 to 2000 for all night yet guys were paying 4 and 5k.
I now know why the vet keep thier places and girls secert. Lastly My expat from DC who paid 200us for Ana and she only stay 2 hours next time your listern to me.
BTW passion had all slim girls when I went on Sat not my type but most were cute. CMP had some busted old maids.
You have made my week. I am heading back down in a few weeks. While I love Sosua, I also love slim girls. I am getting excited at the thoughts of being out numbered 7 to 1.
Thanks for the good report
Member #4480
06-12-12, 04:23
Best short report I've read in awhile because you provided your analysis of the situation.Ditto that. It has a refreshing element of clarity to it.
ForceSteeler
06-12-12, 04:27
Best short report I've read in awhile because you provided your analysis of the situation. I especially like the points you raised above. I actually don't mind the crackdown for various reasons, but I can understand why others are against it. The thought of guys paying 5k for 1k putas used to make me cringe but I realized I have too many options to worry about guys paying 5k at Clasicos or Cien in the Del Rey in CR. If these girls can get that from some gringos, more power to them.Yeah I was there in May (Memorial) Day, and Girls wanted $3-$5, 000K Pesos for a few hours for ToTo In Classicos, some of these girls were below average trying to charge $4, 000K+.
If I'm going to pay $100+, I rather go to Costa Rica or Brazil and get a super stunna that looks like she came out of a magazine. These Sousa girls have some nerve to try to charge that much, Most of them are overweight and got like 2-3 kids with stretch marks and baby fat.
I love thick woman not fat this pic of D? Is as big as I will go 2000 pacos all night with 2 pop and a great massage. Fellows unless your a newbee go to sosua before its too late. The end is near drugs and the new mayor.That is more my flavor. Most of the pics I see on this board are of slimmer women. Are there alot of girls shaped like D over there, and where is the best place to go? I checked out some Passion's pics and theyre mostly slim.
Anyone know if she is still at passion's?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVI4I4HNVM
DR Monger II
06-12-12, 07:48
This happened to me at Passions a few years ago. However, the girl used another excuse saying her mother was sick. I paid lower than the fee that was agreed upon, so everything was okay I guess. Peter made good on the promise next time and took care of me the next time I was in town.
Maybe the girl was tired. I don't think anyone can fuck more than 4 hours.
So, I'm finally in Cabarete and have been here for a few days so far. I decided to dip into Passions in Sosua yesterday and after a few drinks, took one of the girls up to a private room. Her name was Carina. She was endearing, and although she spoke ZERO English, we were able to get through a conversation. I enjoyed her company enough to head back a second time for a TLN (overnight). The problem is, she didn't stay overnight.
After dinner, we headed back to my condo rental. She received a phone call not long after we arrived, and although I didn't know what she was saying, it sounded like there was a bit of commotion going on. I asked her what was wrong, and she said her sister got hurt and was in the hospital. Something about someone running into her, and her getting a cut. She didn't ask to leave immediately, but she also didn't stay the night. She left at about 11pm, after a dip in the bathtub and only one go-round. So, I really only had her for about 4 hours. Not to say 4 hours isn't a good chunk of time, but I paid for the night, and didn't get the night.
That said, however, I knew a bit more about her backstory (we talked over dinner) , and her as a person. So, I didn't throw a shit fit. But she could tell I wasn't particularly happy. That said, however, aside from the dissatisfaction in terms of time spent, I must have been more drunk than I thought last night. Because she wasn't all that great of a lay either. She had the nicest ass out of everyone in Passions, and she knows how to work the pole. But in the bedsheets, she kind of pales. She never seemed to have her head in the game. And, for me at least, I need some reciprocity to really be into it.
Anyway, nice enough girl. But not the right line of business for her. I don't recommend Carina. She has wavy dark red / pink hair, is about 5'6", and has the best bubble butt in the joint. But alas. A waste of money.
The Windex Man
06-12-12, 12:44
(In my best Dave Chapelle voice) : Yo Scotch, I hit that too dawg :D.Oh yeah, that is my kind of thickness right there. I will be looking for that one! That booty was custom made for some doggy style banging.
We In This
06-12-12, 20:28
This happened to me at Passions a few years ago. However, the girl used another excuse saying her mother was sick. I paid lower than the fee that was agreed upon, so everything was okay I guess. Peter made good on the promise next time and took care of me the next time I was in town.
Maybe the girl was tired. I don't think anyone can fuck more than 4 hours.Well the thing about that situation is that we weren't going at it for four hours. Say what you will, but I'm the Rico Suave kind of guy. Being as this was a first time for me, I treated her no different than I would any other woman. I attempted to wine and dine her panties off. Obviously, she obligated to put out because she was paid, but I kind enjoy the chase. Call me a masochist. Point is, I only popped off one. And it was unsatisfying because her head clearly wasn't in the game (as I said in my original post). So, we were actually only in the bed for about 30-40 minutes. The rest of that time was traveling from Sosua to Cabarete, dinner, and bubble bath. Total ripoff.
However, I am happy to report that I DID find Peter at Passions. After his staff told me he wasn't in, my motoconcho friend / driver explained to the onsite "supervisor" what happened. Peter came out, and I explained to him what happened. I told him all about Carina, and he went to the back to talk to her with his supervisor. After a few minutes he came back out and said that he nor is supervisor believed her bullshit story, that she was new, and that she was going to get fired. Then he offered me half my money back (which I had proposed as a way of calling it even) , or another girl for the night at no charge.
After some thought, I went for the new girl. I figured it's better to get the experience that I paid for (an experience worth 5, 000 Pesos) , than to get 2, 500 back. Very glad I went with the new girl. She was so much better, there wasn't even a comparison. Affectionate, friendly, cute, nice body, and young like me. Not to mention she was a bit classier than Carina, evidenced by the Dolce & Gabbana bag and stunner shades. She was right up my alley. Great night, great morning. Popped off three, and couldn't have asked for more. Well, she didn't seem to be one to blow the horn, but it's not the first (or second) time in my life to run into a woman like that. So, no big deal.
Very happy to know that Peter will do what it takes to maintain his business' reputation. Very grateful to see him extend a hand of consolation. He'll get my business again. That's for damn sure. Thanks to all you guys, especially The Windex Man, for helping me right this wrong.
The Windex Man
06-13-12, 01:10
Well the thing about that situation is that we weren't going at it for four hours. Say what you will, but I'm the Rico Suave kind of guy. Being as this was a first time for me, I treated her no different than I would any other woman. I attempted to wine and dine her panties off. Obviously, she obligated to put out because she was paid, but I kind enjoy the chase. Call me a masochist. Point is, I only popped off one. And it was unsatisfying because her head clearly wasn't in the game (as I said in my original post). So, we were actually only in the bed for about 30-40 minutes. The rest of that time was traveling from Sosua to Cabarete, dinner, and bubble bath. Total ripoff.
However, I am happy to report that I DID find Peter at Passions. After his staff told me he wasn't in, my motoconcho friend / driver explained to the onsite "supervisor" what happened. Peter came out, and I explained to him what happened. I told him all about Carina, and he went to the back to talk to her with his supervisor. After a few minutes he came back out and said that he nor is supervisor believed her bullshit story, that she was new, and that she was going to get fired. Then he offered me half my money back (which I had proposed as a way of calling it even) , or another girl for the night at no charge.
After some thought, I went for the new girl. I figured it's better to get the experience that I paid for (an experience worth 5, 000 Pesos) , than to get 2, 500 back. Very glad I went with the new girl. She was so much better, there wasn't even a comparison. Affectionate, friendly, cute, nice body, and young like me. Not to mention she was a bit classier than Carina, evidenced by the Dolce & Gabbana bag and stunner shades. She was right up my alley. Great night, great morning. Popped off three, and couldn't have asked for more. Well, she didn't seem to be one to blow the horn, but it's not the first (or second) time in my life to run into a woman like that. So, no big deal.
Very happy to know that Peter will do what it takes to maintain his business' reputation. Very grateful to see him extend a hand of consolation. He'll get my business again. That's for damn sure. Thanks to all you guys, especially The Windex Man, for helping me right this wrong.Now this is excellent to hear! Very happy to hear that you went back to the establishment and reported it. Peter took care of you man, now that is called good customer service. Yeah man, that first Passion chick you had smelled newbie on your breath and it sounded like with all the wining and dining, she saw an opportunity to try to get over on Mr. Newbie Nice Guy. Unfortunately for her, she didn't know that you would report the issue to the dudes here at ISG and didn't think that Mr. Newbie would actually report her ass to her boss. Whether she had a legit excuse (which I doubt) or not to leave, you were still owed money or an even exchange back. You got the even exchange and then some (4 pops for 5, 000 pesos ain't bad! LOL).
Last note, no way I'm going to tell anyone how to spend their money, but just be careful with the wining and dining out there. Don't forget what they do for a living and for a lot of them, their mission is to get every damn dime out of your pocket that they can and you don't even realize what they are doing because they are so damn sweet and the ass is so damn phat. First you start the wining and dining, next you'll be taking them shopping and before you know it, you and the ho will be walking down Pedro Clisante with bags of clothes for her, her kids, and her momma. I'm sure you're too smart to fall for that, but just mentioning.
Since you're new to the international travel pussy for pay game, I highly recommend you pick up a copy of the Hedonist by Brett Tate and learn the 21 rules of the chase. Passions kind of fucks up rule 20: "NEVER EVER EVER PAY UP Front", but at least Passions has management who seems to look out for his customers.
Okay later and again, thanks for reporting!
Professor 1
06-13-12, 01:40
Last note, no way I'm going to tell anyone how to spend their money, but just be careful with the wining and dining out there. Don't forget what they do for a living and for a lot of them, their mission is to get every damn dime out of your pocket that they can and you don't even realize what they are doing because they are so damn sweet and the ass is so damn phat. First you start the wining and dining, next you'll be taking them shopping and before you know it, you and the ho will be walking down Pedro Clisante with bags of clothes for her, her kids, and her momma. I'm sure you're too smart to fall for that, but just mentioning.You make a good point, and I agree with you for the most part. However, as long as you know what you're doing and are in control, a little fantasy can be nice. I invited a Costa Rican casa girl to dinner one night, then took her back to the condo outside San Jose, Costa Rica. It was a good experience. I invited her to dinner the next night. When we met, she made sure that I understood that she couldn't return to the condo after dinner. I really didn't care, as I enjoyed her company. She made me repeat in Spanish that she couldn't go home with me. I respected that, and repeated it. After dinner, she offered to come to the condo in the morning. I said to myself,"Yeah right." Well, she arrived exactly at the promised time, and gave me quite a GFE. We took a cab back to downtown, and she refused my monetary gift. I had to push the colones on her and tell her it was for the little one. In this instance, wining and dining can lead to a good GFE. You have to know what you are doing, and feel the girl. I had a similar experience in Santo Domingo. Dinner one night with the girl saying that she cannot return to the hotel. She visits the next day, provides a GFE, and does not ask for money.
Many of the girls are hardcore puta and many are desperate young ladies trying to survive. There is no social net in the DR. If you break through the shell you can find so sweet young ladies wanting to share affection with some one they trust and like. I love GFE and will charm the panties off a puta. Most of these girls are ok if given a chance. Bottom line we fot the cash and call the shots. Never forget that.
You make a good point, and I agree with you for the most part. However, as long as you know what you're doing and are in control, a little fantasy can be nice. I invited a Costa Rican casa girl to dinner one night, then took her back to the condo outside San Jose, Costa Rica. It was a good experience. I invited her to dinner the next night. When we met, she made sure that I understood that she couldn't return to the condo after dinner. I really didn't care, as I enjoyed her company. She made me repeat in Spanish that she couldn't go home with me. I respected that, and repeated it. After dinner, she offered to come to the condo in the morning. I said to myself,"Yeah right." Well, she arrived exactly at the promised time, and gave me quite a GFE. We took a cab back to downtown, and she refused my monetary gift. I had to push the colones on her and tell her it was for the little one. In this instance, wining and dining can lead to a good GFE. You have to know what you are doing, and feel the girl. I had a similar experience in Santo Domingo. Dinner one night with the girl saying that she cannot return to the hotel. She visits the next day, provides a GFE, and does not ask for money.
The Windex Man
06-13-12, 02:22
You make a good point, and I agree with you for the most part. However, as long as you know what you're doing and are in control, a little fantasy can be nice. I invited a Costa Rican casa girl to dinner one night, then took her back to the condo outside San Jose, Costa Rica. It was a good experience. I invited her to dinner the next night. When we met, she made sure that I understood that she couldn't return to the condo after dinner. I really didn't care, as I enjoyed her company. She made me repeat in Spanish that she couldn't go home with me. I respected that, and repeated it. After dinner, she offered to come to the condo in the morning. I said to myself,"Yeah right." Well, she arrived exactly at the promised time, and gave me quite a GFE. We took a cab back to downtown, and she refused my monetary gift. I had to push the colones on her and tell her it was for the little one. In this instance, wining and dining can lead to a good GFE. You have to know what you are doing, and feel the girl. I had a similar experience in Santo Domingo. Dinner one night with the girl saying that she cannot return to the hotel. She visits the next day, provides a GFE, and does not ask for money.Professor, I absolutely agree with you that some wining and dining can be good for GFE, but I was just mentioning to be careful with it and don't let it get out of control. In the case of the post that I was referring to, it seemed that there was some wining and dining going on, that led to a chica making a quick exit. If not for Peter at Lapassions, he would have not only been ripped off by Lapassions, but also actually lost money because of the Cabarete trip. I'm just saying be careful.
Also to be honest, I'm not the romantic type of dude (with working girls) anyway. When I travel, it's about PSE for me. Interested in straight banging and am not interested in kissing the prostitutes in the mouth, giving gifts, holding hands by the beach, or licking their pussies, but that's just me. Not saying anything's wrong with that, just not interested. Sosua fits me perfectly for what I want. When I want something different, I'll change my style up. Everyone has their own style and if truly looking for GFE, I can understand how what you are explaining will work (with some of them). There are still plenty of pirahna out there.
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but. http://vimeo.com/12278158
Tempoecorto
06-14-12, 04:36
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158You kidding or what? Too thick? I would LOVE to have her but as Groucho Marx had said, most likely she will not have me. What a lovely smile she has and the trust in her face in the photographer. Priceless! Are you behind the camera?
That is just right. Did you video this.
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158So much for the "No Face" line!
I'd would do her, but then again, I really don't have any restrictions when I select.
DeepMmpactt
06-14-12, 07:06
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158Orgasmico, too thick. Well give me the Chocolate Jackhammer that fat ass. Ahem TOO THICK. Chica and where can I find that ahem. TOO THICK chica. Never trust a big butt and a smile. That girl is poison BBD Bel Biv Davoe. And my friend Savepro will put the you tube video later. Smack it up! Flip it! Rub it down. Oh noooo! I need a body bag, please Orgasmico post more to thick women. LOL!
BoricuaOnline
06-14-12, 14:56
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158Trigueņa, si te cojo te hago leņa!
Google translates it :
Brunette, if I catch you I wood!
Not the correct translation but no bad, LOL.
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158Man Please! That is exactly the type of thickness I like. Good stuff man. Thanks for the vid. Question, were there many chicks to choose from with this type of thickness on your last trip?
1. Try Kayak. Com if you never tried it in addition to the others you spoke of.
2. Relaxing and looking for women are not mutually exclusive. Given the shortage of time, you can relax on a beach and get propositioned by women at the same time. If not, bring one or ten from the disco of the night past. By the way, it is true that women will approach you. The pro kind though!
3. Again, given the shortage of time, I recommend Sosua because you can walk everywhere including the beach. By not staying at all-inclusives, you increase your chance of getting hit on by women (mostly if not all- Pros) on the public beach and not having to worry about women friendliness of all inclusive hotels.
4. Now you can read the sosua forum for all the details. Others will chime in as well.
5. Given that you are fluent in Spanish, theoretically you can go anywhere but time or the lack of it is a deal killer which is why I would focus on Sosua. Next trip, you can throw a dart on the map and go there. It would be a piece of cake.Thanks for all the help from everyone. Hope to make this a good trip. Decided not to over think it and go with the flow. With what I have read here I will just try and make things happen. I will make sure I report my experiences even though I am a few weeks away still. I'll keep reading up to make sure I get as much info as possible. Thanks
I realize this is too thick for most dudes on here, but.
http://vimeo.com/12278158I must say this is just right. Not too thick and not too thin and is that type as my 1st choice during the hunt hands down. Now, how do I find this one, if you know PM me the infor. Thanks, very nice.
Charles Pooter
06-15-12, 13:10
Decided not to over think it and go with the flow.Very wise. You know the old military maxim about every battle-plan going out of the window once the first shot is fired? Well, that very much applies to mongering in the DR, especially in Sosua. You may meet a chica or a bunch of guys on your first day and your trip will take directions you never imagined. You won't have to "make things happen", they will happen to you, but try and stay in command of the situation at all times. Go with your gut feeling if you sense people are not acting in your best interest and never place your trust in locals.
Tempoecorto
06-15-12, 16:20
Thanks for all the help from everyone. Hope to make this a good trip. Decided not to over think it and go with the flow. With what I have read here I will just try and make things happen. I will make sure I report my experiences even though I am a few weeks away still. I'll keep reading up to make sure I get as much info as possible. ThanksI would add one more thing. Perhaps you can PM Charles Pooter for his contact details. He lives locally and will be of much help if needed.
Taxi Recommendation.
I usually do not post taxi information, as I am usually not a fan of having my "own" driver. I find that being driven around by the same person is usually more annoying than anything else.
That said, we had a great driver that SHOULD be used. A great phucking guy, honest, on time ALL THE TIME, has a good heart, is totally non-judgmental about the games we play, yet is a solid guy who even had his son come with him to pick us up from dinner (and yes, I had my last night date with me). He also took around Puerto Plata. In short, probably my favorite driver of all time.
Humberto Valdez- 809-251-8968 or, his email, taxisosua@hotmail.com He has a late model van (Toyota?) with excellent AC, and provides very fair prices. He is avaliable for short trips, by the hour rentals, or whatever you need. If I ever go again, I may rent him for a few day tour. He is the perfect blend of helpful yet not intrusive, and is a funny guy who seeks to know what his clients need. He speaks some English (he said pretty well, I did not hear it, full disclosure). He did write me, and his English seems fine.
He mentioned he would be glad to pick someone up in Santiago also. It is rare that I trust and enjoy a cabbi this much. All three of us highly reccomend him.
Rologue.
This section is not about pu*sy, but about the backround, and my various rants about the hobby, travel, and life. Skip if you wish to only read about pu*sy, and perhaps skip if you have read my shit 50 times before.
As with many of my trip reports, I try to accomplish several, sometimes interrelated goals. First, to present a 'sense' or paint a picture of what a particular mongering venue is like. Second, to describe my adventures in such a way that perhaps others can learn from my successes and pitfalls. After all, the more we develop our understanding of ourselves and how this game can work, in different contexts, the more fun that it is. Some of you will disagree, and say, 'its all about the money. ' As I have said before, money is just the entrance fee; so many other factors influence what we get from this experience. Lastly, I enjoy when I have comprehensive trip reports to look back on. I do not take pictures, for a variety of reasons, so the written word is what I have to trigger the memories.
So, for those that don't know me, here is are some things to put my experiences into context. Again, for those of you who think it is all about money, skip. Mid 40s, have gotten myself in good shape over the last few years, and am now in not my best shape, but close. The better I feel about myself and the better my body performs the better time I have. Been training hard for this trip. 3 days off in the last two months of training; up to a minimum of an hour of cycling three days a week, and pretty intense circut training involving body weight workouts, dumbells and core. Have been neglecting my stretching- need to kick that into high gear- very important for mongering. Still, feeling good about my body, which is key for me to really enjoying. When I was 25 pounds heavier a few years ago, my trips were not as enjoyable, in truth.
Spanish- a stone's throw from fluent. For all intents and purposes, for mongering, fluent. I work in Spanish; so to those who are less than bilingual, I am fluent. A bit rusty, as I have slacked a bit on my hour a day ritual over the last year. However, back to intense sessions of listening, speaking, writing and reading- good to go. I wanted to describe my level of Spanish, as it really does have a powerful influence on the types of experiences that I have. I stick mostly to p4p, but tend to get into little 'off the program' encounters with working girls and pick up non-pros from time to time.
Now, please don't think I am saying I am any kind of stud, but just reporting my experiences. I am now a middle guy and to Phuck the types of women I want, I would have to work my ass off for an extended period of time, and sling around money anyhow. Mongering is far easier.
In terms of GFE and out of the box expereinces, A command of Spanish helps in this regard. Far easiler in Latin America or in the PI to have these grey area and 'normal' experiences for me than it was in LOS; mostly though, I prefer to pay. I am not single, and have no desire for a relationships. However, I do love GFE, and these expereinces tend to lead to some off the charts GFE. GFE to me is as much about an attitude as it is about a specific list of servcie. A GFE 'feels'as if she wants to be with you, regardless if that is true or not.
There are multiple things we can do to encourage a GFE; those factors can be broken down into three area: selection, personal charicteristics (of monger) , and context. The first of course has to do with good interview skills, and making sure YOU are the one that sets the tone. It means being able to put your needs and desires out there, and be willing to walk away if you get sense that she will not be 'down. ' You have to have a really good sense of the 'vibe' between you and the women. In this sense, there is some wisdom to the notion of letting a chica select you, only IF you are hot for her and you get a sense that she is diging your chile, not that she is coming on to you because she is an agressive pro.
Some personal charicteistics you can control, some you can't. Some you can control in the short term, and some take longer. I make sure that my normally funky nails and toe nails are in good shape, that I don't dress like a tool (jeans and dress shirt for me during the evneing, no matter where I am) , have a good cologne (kill the old spice home slice; and grey flannel will only attract 50 year old suburbanites, Phuck that!) and just in general look as good as I can. Some guys say 'Phuck it, I am on vacation, what you are describing is more work than I have to do on a REAL date. Why bother? ' Well, fair enough, but again, I bother to make my money go as far as it can, to have the most outragious, fabulous sex that I can have. For that, I need to be as attractive as I can for the chicas (or at least as not repugnant as I can be).
Of course, some personal variables such as sense of human, way with women, intenllegence, gift of gab, ect, are harder to change. However, you can be confident and warm, masculine without being an asshole-these are sexy to women.
Context- Easier to get GFE when the context supports it. This is why I NEVER would stay at the Del Rey and frankly prefer the La Amistad in CR to even the Sportsmans. Getting her away from 'hooker context' will help her behave less like a hooker (I. E. Relax and not be 'on the clock. '). Other contextual factors include having music, booze, munchies and creative a bit of the 'date vibe. ' This does not mean you have to buy her roses and presents, but suggesting that you have a few presents (underwear from Victoria Secrets are CHEAP when on sale) for excellent preformers. Yes, always create insentives for outstanding performance, without it sounding too much like a business transaction.
Wingmen. I really really excited for this trip- going with two wingmen who have become very good freinds. Both are now people I speak to often, and would be dear friends even if we never mongered again. We are all staying at the New Garden, unless one of my wingmen, who has been abit under the weather, decides to stay at the Terra Linda. My best trips are with my friends- I try really hard to find way including them on my adventures, and being included in theirs. I like to hang out with 'the boys' in mongering venues to some degree, but I sometimes don't fit in if, in my opinion, they are too masogonistic I mean, I am a monger, but please, some guys are so phucking disrepectufl) , too intro drugs and drinking (a few drinks for me and the occasional toke) and don't give a shit about the cultural or norms of the place (no, it is not ok to wear shorts in MDE outside, period! Live your life, but I will avoid your ass!)
That said, some of the coolest guys I have ever met I have met mongering, and Diablito and Shadowman are two of them. I was hoping EO& SJO would have been able to come, but life circcumstances. Swoothwind says he may come on the way back from MDE, but I have not heard from him. Was hoping this would have been a mini reunion of an amazing trip to Lima that Smoothy, Diablito, Shadowman, SJO and I did four years ago- I cannot believe that it has been so long. Boys, we need to plan a trip next year that we can all do. LOS anyone?
Mongering venues I have been to- Sometimes, it is good to know on what basis someone provides info. Just as with personal charicteristics, I think it helps put things into perspective. About half of my trips are work related- with a whole lot of play thrown in. In the last decade I have played in the following places: CR, Nicaragua, Tijuana, Peru (Lima and Cusco) , MDE, LOS (Issan, BKK and Pattaya) and the PI (Manila, Subic and Angeles) and Germany (Eros centers and FKK).
About Sosua, I am excited to go. It has been a year and a half since I have been in Latin America (almost) , and this will be my first time in the DR. One of my all time favorites from the Del Rey was a Domincana named Jenny. Slender with natural C cups, she had this nasty, I am going to bite year C*ck off look, but was just about the most GFE chica I have been with. My mouth would hurt from kissing so much, and I will never forget the look in her eyes, as I would Phuck her as hard as I could for as long as I could, her daring me to go harder, faster- 'de me lo papi, rompe me. ' And, she meant it.
When I mess around on Latinamerican cupid, just for kicks, I usually find the Domincanas binomial- I think they are the hottests things this side of hell, or just fugly. Luckily, I don't mind a bit of extra cushion, and find more hot than not, so I am good to go look wise.
Frankly, I am still a bit confused about the pricing at Classicos, but I will figure it out. I hear varied things; only pay a 1, 000, and for short time. Other will so, no phucking will, for the hot ones you pay 1500-2000. TLN seems to range from 2000-3000. Bla bla.
I always obsess about the small details before I travel, and then just let the Phuck go when I am there. I like to absorb as much information as I can, so I just have an internal map of what the experince will be like. Of course, once I get there, it all comes together.
If you have read this much of this prologue I have one thing to say to you: get a life! Teasing. I will try to update this once I am on the ground, every few days, but that may or may not happen. I will make notes, however, and provide my impressions at some point. That seemed to work for my PI trip report, but we shall see.
ottest day in a month or so, but what the phuck. landed with no issues. funny how small this airport is- you basically have no idea you are landing in an international airport- you might as well be landing on farmland from looking out the window. off the plane in 5, in the cab after a totally painless immigration and "customs" experience, and at the ng in 30 or so minutes after i land. so, what to so about the ng, well, let me tell you it is loader than the town is hot. last night was party phucking central, and i am not talking about typically adult partying, i am talking about young men acting out ever drop of their testosterone, cigar smoking, rum drinking, i can now do anything i want now that i am out of the service away form momma 20 year old young buck partying. thank god for earplugs, as i needed a good nice sleep.
but, lets backtrack to what you really want to hear about.
so, after check in, i take a short walk around two. the main area that tourists hang, with bars and restaurants and a few discos. the ng is a five minute walk, if that, from that main drag. along this street, dr. something or another (will report that later, in case you give a shit, but the town is so small, no worries) , there are other restaurants, bars, small massage places that are supposed to offer tug jobs and other services depending. i love a massage, but prefer excellent massages and a blow job to a mediocre massage and a tug job, so may or may not partake.
just walking around the vibe is very different than most of mainland latin america. there deficiently is a caribbean feel to the place. i am reminded a touch of limon, la ceba, or dangriga (belize, but just a touch). the culture is immediately more in your face, the people more assertive, louder, more 'out there. ' no judgment, just describing. from my experience, many dominicanas are sort of the anti peruanas, humble and demure are not cultural norms of dominicans back home, and it does not seem to be the same here. not good, not bad, just is, and what you are comfortable with.
so, i find a small comedor (thank god they are called that here, i hate the term 'soda' in costa rica, never used anywhere else) , and have arroz con gondulez (rice and pigeon peas) and backed chicken. not bad. small place, not many gringos come here i think, as it is about give blocks down the main drag; just the vibe i got. foot and drink came to 6 bucks- a bit more than i would have expected in a place like this, and it was not the gringo price, as that is what the chica next to me paid as well.
anyhow, as i am leaving i notice this cutie smile at me whom i did not notice. she waves and winks as i start to walk away- she is certainly with the program. guys say that 80 percent of the choices are available around town, and while i don't know if that is true, in just one day of being here i can tell you that there seem to be a lot of choices in random places (stores, street, ect) who small, look, and give me double takes, and i am not that good looking, lol).
so, i make a mental note of this chica, but really want to take a look inside the famous passions, which is 10 minute walk farther down the street. non descriptor from the outside, it looks a bit like pantera rosa inside, mabye darker and not as big, but just for a comparison. it is mid day, and most chicas are not here yet. however, the four that were there were very nice. two dark, dark chias, one a 9 the other maybe a 9. 5-both will killer bodies. i get a tour form one of them, she made sure to walk very slowly up the stairs to the rooms to demonstrate the gyration capacity of her ass which was 'covered' in what could only be described as butt floss. and what an ass it was- this is spin delight, for those of you who are spinner aficionados.
the rooms are very nice, with a killer penthouse with jacuzzi. i might have to have a couple in there for a couple of hours. that thought makes me hard (in case you care). after my tour, i have quick drink at the bar and peruse the 'menu' of services while this hottie flirts with me. no pressure, she is just being her little vampy self. now, the menu is a list of time durations. here is the link to the menu.
http://passions-sosua.com/passions/menu.html
1000 pesos is about 26 bucks, for comparison sake.
i decide that i am too tired to session this far from my hotel, as feel a nap coming after post orgasm bliss. i walk back to the comedor, and there is the cutie from before. she smiles, and i walk past the place a few yards, having her just in site. i call her over, as i don't like negotiating in front of others- it gives them the power that i wash to have.
she is very cute, dark latina sort who comes from one lighter and one darker parent. lovely skin, and while not a spinner, thin with a cute little round ass- just my speed. i describe the kind of gfe session i like, and here is not a hint of resistance on her face (my preferred way of judging their responses). i say i want a couple of hours, with lots of kissing- not worrying about other details at this point. she agrees, and i offer her 1500 pesos. she wants 2000, and while that is a bit too much for a short / medium term session, i tell her i want to go two times, and she agrees.
without getting into details, a very nice session that goes from mild gfe to good gfe once i go down on her, tee hee. good session with lots of cuddling, we take a short nap between sessions. i shower, and she gives me a pretty good bbbj ball licking session- a bit too short. we phuck some more, and i finish a second time with her licking my nipples and helping her out (which i often need to do). overall, a good session.
mostly chilled the end of my first night. spent a couple of hours hanging out in rumba bar on the main drag. a large, open aired bar, which maybe 50 chicas. many cute, many note, but something for everyone in terms of body type. i am beat, so allow myself an early night as wingman number one arriving the next day.
i will say the highlight was watching this one chica shake her ass to the music. i mean, it was just a cuttle little ass, and in truth, nothing that most would notice. but, there was just something about the roundness, and the almost imperceptible way each check would move to the changes in beats. perhaps 20 other chicas with bigger asses were dancing more noticeably, writhing, butty popping and just shakin' the shit. but this cute 20 year old, with the roundest little chica next door ass, and the subtle movements of her yet to be known ass, made me feel alive, really phucking alive. i was tranfixed by ever slight movement, every gentle shift. she was perfect, the night was perfect, the music providing me with a calm feeling inside. i smiled, went back to the hotel, put in some ear plugs, and slept like a baby.
{ps. if i am going to take this much time to write, i am not going to put much effort into proofreading, so my apologies}
Well, to continue.
The night before last did a TLN with a chica that I met her at the NG. Was actually out drinking with wingman Shadowman in La Rumba, a large open aired par that seems to be chica central from late afternoon to early evening. I like the place, but the vibe is very "sharkey." We were constantly hit up by chicas selling their wares, and of course, the ones that approached were usually not the ones I wanted to be with. Besides, I was tired, and really not feeling like a session. It was a fun time, hanging out, flirting with the chicas. Made mental note of several that for another night. Prior to this, Shadowman and I have a good time catching up. We met seven years ago in CR, and have been pals since. We both share an appreciation for fine drink, and shared a few during the day. But back to to bar for now (sorry I am jumping around).
One group of girls had three stunners, I would guess 19 year old, each with a flawless body. However, they seemed more like young college age girls what really were out of the element, and were not seeming like they were into being there (I mean, why would any right minded young lass REALLY be into phucking old guys, right?) Of course, part timers such as this can be wonderful, and really are my preference, but one has to interview well for such chicas, and I was just too damn tired.
One interesting young lass was 25 years old, a bit rough and too thin for me, but had that sexiness that the others were missing. In spite of telling her that I was not going with her that night, she decided to make a show out of trying to get me to change her mind. When I asked her where the bathroom was, she escorted me there, and asked for a present. I am thinking, shit, hitting me up for money already? Nope, she grabs me and gives me an outstanding and passionate french kiss.
So, I am now getting horny, but am just not wanting to pull the trigger. Frankly I just want to crash, get some sleep, and call it a day (this was day two, BTW). Back at the table, she shows us her breasts, as she pulls her top away from her chest we we look within. Very nice perky B cups, very cute actually, but the gut says no. She leans in, gives me another passionate kiss, and I tell her that is wonderful as it was I am not going.
Now, if you are starting to key into some huge cultural differences between Dominicanas and Latinas in Central or South America (yes, tons of differences between these countries as well, but for comparative purposes) you are dead on. There is a level of assertiveness and 'in your faceness' that you would never find in, say, Peru or Colombia. A paisa would be far less public in her display of affection, and would temp you in far more subtle (and for me, frankly, charming) ways. There is little subtlety here, the scene is in your face, the girls are in your face, and the guys are in your face.
For example, right after said chica kissed me, a Dominican guy walked by her, not knowing I speak Spanish (or not caring, but certainly careful not to look at me) , and called her, in effect, a shameless working girl (sin verguenza, literally meaning shameless, but in this context usually 'skank. '). Again, in most other Latin America expressions of gender behavior that are viewed as too extreme would be 'policed' more subtly.
Anyhow, she leaves, and shortly after, we leave. Walking back to the hotel (3 minute walk, max) I see a chica leaving that I was flirting with in the New Garden. She is cute, huge tits, maybe a bit too much everywhere else, but very cute. I am not tempted; she has a sweet smile, and maybe I can just chill, get off, and go to sleep.
I decide to pull the trigger, but a relaxing BJ and slumber was not to be in the cards.
To be continued.
Ok. So, the rest of my night number two. Sweet buxom chica and I go back to the room. Very nice girl, great personality, wonderful face, huge boobs. We drink a bit, and start to fool around. This is one of these chicas who is GFE in every way but kissing. Every once in a while I find a chica like this, it is almost as if this is the one area she will not give herself to you in as a form of resistance, to prove she is not a "working girl," and to save something for someone she loves (we spoke about it today, at the NG pool, and my gut seems to have been correct). Good session, save for mediocre kissing, and the fact that she is not one who likes my full throttle pounding (I can be, shall we say, a bit "athletic" or "vigorous." Still, decent sex.
Now, the problem. My phucking room at the NG (I have since moved). Midnight, and there is screaming. Not chica screaming, but testosterone laden phucked up 25 year old men thinking they are on service leave / at a frat party / at a house party, or just loose for the first time ever. This goes on for HOURS. And worse, since I am with a chica, I don't want to put in earplugs (I am not the most trusting soul in the world).
So, not being able to sleep, which I really need badly, I decide I just try to Phuck again and go to sleep. Try waking up chica; she is not having it. I persist, and put on a condom. Now, this is the most lifeless Phuck I have had in year. Usually I am able to get a quick rise and soon have an active partner that enjoys (or pretends) to be enjoying. Not here. I am not phucking a corpse. I know some guys don't care, but no kissing, no moaning, no signs that this is anything more than an annoyance? Not my bag. So, at 4am, I stop, she goes to sleep, and I am left hearing dudes in the hallway talk about all the money they paid to this chica and their friends at some club, did not get laid, somebody is in jail, Phuck this pu*sy, ***** phucking shit pu*sy ***** that, music loud as Phuck. 5am, I am beat, now feel like shit. 6, the crap stops, and I sleep for a couple of hours.
Now, chica is up, and not really interested in having morning sex, and I am not really into a less than responsive chica. So, I leave 2500 for her on her clothes (65 bucks). She is not happy, and makes it known. Well, we go back and forth, and I debate kicking her out, but since I made the mistake of not negotiating price up front, I bite the bullet and give her an extra 13 bucks. I think actually her pride was more wounded than anything- really a sweet girl actually. Whatever. I really only believe in setting firm limits when there is some major transgression or a breach of agreement- this was a sweet girl who gave me a good half hour of ball liking; I am not going to make a stink over what will be. 03 percent of the total cost of my trip.
Yet, lack of sleep, feeling pissed at the house party next door, mediocre overall experience, and I don't have that happy easy feeling that I come to expect. Plus, Sosua has an edgy vibe, and edgy island vibe, and being dehydrated and hassled, I just was not really feeling the love here.
Was able to shake it off with a good day with my buddy Shadowman. Mostly we spent time hanging out in the bars, drinking a bit, laughing our assess off, and had a nice quiet dinner. I moved to a good room on the top floor with a Jacuzzi, and most of the load fuckers have checked out and are too far away. I soak in the water for a few hours after dinner, have a nice drink, decide to pack it in early.
Tomorrow Diablito will be here, and with a new day, new possibilities for renewal. I remind myself that not every day of mongering, as in life, goes the way I want it to. The key is to roll with it when it does not.
i wake up early and head down to the beach. it is 6am, and time for a power walk and a pushup marathon in the sand. three days here, and i have not been to the beach, it has been just too phucking hot. 10 walk down to sosua beach, passing dozens of people walking and running- nice to see. so, to describe sosua beach. adjectives. funky. ramshackle. rustic. at least those are the 6 am descriptors when the litter from the day before is still being swept by the storekeepers and the bars and restaurants have yet to open. the bars and ret line a dirt path that is perhaps 10 yards off the beach; little metal shacks, of fish joints, tropical drink venues, souvenir shoppes. i walk past, and walk up the hill that leads to the part of the town where non-gringos really live.
aw, the real world. panaderia. carneceria. tire shops. comedores- this is the world i prefer to live in, in truth, the world of every day life where simple pleasure occur and people are not commodified (or at least i am not commodified, who i am kidding, i bang hookers, i am king of comodifiers ).
i digress, it is cool to walk through town. i walk back, do pushups in the sand, walk back. i take a swim, and chill out til diablito come at 2:30, when shadoman and i wait for him.
shit, i am providing a lot of useless details. i hope this is at least painting a picture of the place and the experience- i will have to do some more descriptive stuff of the bars and such later.
to cut to the chase, we hit passions at about 4 or so.
holy shit, tons of good looking women. diablito has that i have come home to god look, you know, having found religious in the form of vagina.
i am content just to watch him. it is liking watching buddhist monks in prayer, or the look in the eyes of lovers doing the tango, or the look of wonder a new mother casts upon her newborn.
diablito, you see, likes pu*sy. a lot.
passions has an interesting 'thang' going on. so, the girls, who are all behind one or two bars, spend time chatting you up, very close, almost in an intimate manner. it would feel intrusive, but, they move on, and then the next one comes. and then the next. giving that they are never there long, you don't feel tense like when you are accosted by a freelancer who won't get the phucking message that you will never spend a dime on her. they just flirt with you, touch your arms, make you feel like god, and leave. this is what hookers should do.
this is hooker speed dating- a good thing.
shadowman is less than impressed with the talent, but i would say half were girls i would love to phuck, and 20 percent very nice.
we are not in the mood to pull the trigger yet, so talk back to la rumba for drinks, flirting, ect. have dinner at a place called pjs- good chicken, very nice fish soup, thumbs up. however, like all the places in this part of town, a bit overpriced.
sosua- high food costs, high price of hotel to quality ratio, but cheap pu*sy.
save for passions.
night, i pick up a freelancer at rumba. i am not feeling like a long session, but allow a sexy 30 year old (looked 20, smoking body) to take me home for an hour phuck for 1500. great kisser, good albeit somewhat short bbbj, responsive to being eaten, and good phuck. i don't feel like lasting the hour. we take a jacuzzi together, and frankly it is too bad that i am not feeling like more company, because she is a fun chica.
funny, how this was did all the gfe things (great and passionate kissing) , but was really far less emotionally open and far more of a seasoned pro than last night.
overall, quality quick experience, i got exactly what i put in.
Efore I went out tonight, I had a chit chat with the TLN from the other night, the one that was emotionally GFE which whom I had that money discrepancy.
Good thing, no tension, but it was clear that her ego was bruised at me not offering her 3000, which she sees as the going TLN rate (I am good at reading people, its my job, she was not BSing me). I mean, she did spend 10 hours with me, that seems to be what most pay for a good looking chica for TLN (some say a lot less, but I would like to see that they look like).
Regardless, she asks me if I liked my time with her. I tell her, yes and no. She asks me to describe to her the yes and no. So, I ask her clearly if she really wants to know, because I will tell her in as much detail as she wishes, but am glad to hold my tongue. This is generally my way. She says she really wants to know, so I talk to her about her kissing, how while I know it is a form of resistance and protest, it was not fun, and killed the experience for me. I gave her some other feedback about her sexual performance, to which she listed very carefully, seeming to take mental notes. I then critiqued her sweating me over 500 pesos, and explained how it was a poor business decision, between she has an unhappy costumer, and I am staying where she worked.
To her credit, she listened carefully, and explained that I was correct about the kissing, but that if I went with her again, she would 'try. ' She also said she would go for TLN for 2000 as a way of splitting the difference and making good, even though she feels she deserves 3000.
Props to her for this. I tell her that while that is sweet, I think that 'the thrill is gone for me, ' but that it is nice to be on good terms since I will see her around.
I kiss her cheek and say I have to shower.
'Can I shower also, it is hot. '
'Sure, you can use my shower, but you will have to do it quickly while I get ready, as I am going out. '
'I want to shower with you. '
'Good try. ' I kiss her again on the cheek- I need to sport Phuck somebody (for said Phuck, see previous post).
O, either New Garden girls have a have all decided that they do everything in the world but kiss or there are a large percentage of chicas here who are not into kissing "dates." I know that this is not something many of you give a shit about, but phucking without kissing is like eating Thai food without rice, or Sushi without wasabi. I nearly do not want to bother.
Took a chica that I met yesterday at New Garden out to dinner with women and I. Went to Scotch and Sirloin at the Terra Linda- good food. The chica was a delight over dinner, warm affectionate, holding my hands; both wingmen were delighted with her company. She was, the perfect dinner date. Now, in the room, she is a tiger. We get in, she drops to hear knees and starts to suck me, right off the bat. Nice. She takes me to the bed, and goes down on me for about an 45 minutes, literally. But, she won't kiss me! Here she is, licking my balls, licking my shaft like a viper, eating my precum, and she won't phucking kiss me. Granny pecks, yes, but that is about it. In my life, I have never, never, ever, ever had so many sessions and had so little making out. Call me girly, but I phucking love to make out. I am going go now have to describe to ever chica I meet here exactly what kissing IS, what it really means, and make it clear I am not going to pay a phucking peso if they don't make out, and will kick them the Phuck out the door!
Now that I got that out of system, besides the no kissing, this girl is so sweet it is scary. I frankly think my two wingmen will be shocked, based upon her behavior over dinner, that she would not make out. Ok, Phuck, I guess my rant is not over.
Now that I think about it, I have never taken a working girl out to dinner and not kissed and made out after. Never, and so this is maybe 8 trips to CR. 5 to Peru. 3 to MDE, Mexico, Nicaragua, Thailand, the PI.
This shit it pissing me off! LOL.
Oh, I just asked her kindly not to stay the night.
'Why? '
' I want to sleep alone. '
'Was it not good? '
'I like to kiss during sex. '
She sighs, kisses me on the forehead, and leaves.
Grrrr.
Sex here is easy, too easy perhaps, this place might not be for a GFE lover like myself.
I did forget about one session that was very nice. A good hard Phuck with all the right GFE moves from a 34 year old MILF (they are almost all Milfs) who looked much younger.
Chilled at the beach today under and umbrella- since it has cooled down a great deal after the heatwave, it is more pleseant.
Food notes- La Finca, well reviewed place near NG. Been around forever, a continental fusion mix. Three of us, one enjoyed his meal very much, one in the middle, my pork was far overcooked. Pricey, as are most places for quality, pass.
On the beach, shack number 64 for fish (sorry, forgot the name, but they are numbered) Outstanding! Grilled Red Snapper that was world class. When they call you into the kitchen to and want to show you have fresh the fish is, and ask you to smell, yo know they care (if only the chicas did the same thing ).
Personalities- Assertive to the point of annoying, at times (and I don't mind assertive women). Less then engaging most of the time, subtle sensuality is not their strenght. Sexuality here is assertive, in your face, let me suck your dick and Phuck you, please let me come to your hotel. One Hatian girl, everytime she sees us (8 times walking around town or in several different bars) , parks herself inches from my back shoulder and stands there like a putty that needs to go outside (yuck, not the nicest metaphor, sorry).
On my trips, I LOVE to chat with the chicas about their lives, families, culture, whatever. Very little of this so far. The culture, not the culture of the DR, the the culture of Sosua, basically constructs itself as a center of comodification, I buy, they sell (whatever they are selling). While of course this is true in other places, the types of human interactions I have had have been far more superficial, far less satisfying. I now nearly seek to avoid conversations- so not me.
Aside from that, I am actually now having a nice, relaxing time with my friends. I have not been paid in a day and a half, and really am not feeling like I need, or perhaps even want, to do so. For those of you who have read my past trip reports, you know this is not my typical MO.
Maybe I motivate to go to Passions in a while, maybe I will just chill in the room and enjoy a soak.
Met a wonderful waitress at a comedor nearby that is a total sweety. She sat down with me and we talked for an hour- the nicest conversation to that point. During out chat, she grabs my arm and says "you want my number, don't you?"
"pos supuesto." She is going to come over for some prework afternood delight.
Yesterday was a fantastic day. Spend the late morning with Diablito at the beach, and again had fish at the same place. Fantastic. Great energy by the beach, and the hawkers were not too annoying.
Afternoon pulled a massage chicas from one of the perhaps ten or so massage shacks within a two block radius. Had her come up to the room after a workout. Average massage, but she got the kinks out.
Pulled a 9 rated 18 year old spinner from Rumba that I actually blew off the other day. She seemed to get over her anger. In the room, she was very sweet, sort of GFE, and was one of this chicas that you are phucking and say to yourself 'I am phucking a model, I am phucking a model, I am phucking a model. ' Just perfect little body (and I am not into spinners) but what a rack.
Yet, the most important discovery was the importance of Classicos LATE! The places just fills up with foxes left and right, but did not get going until midnight. In truth, I was not really interested in sesionining, but had a fantastic time dancing, chatting and flirting.
I have a story about a chica that I am going to let play out a bit (may or may not happen) before I wrote about it- last thing I would need would be for one of her 'companions' to be reading the board- you will catch my drift after I post the story (nothing profound, but fun).
It does not. It provides an AMAZING variety of very sexy woman. For perhaps 20 hours a day (give or take) you can have your choice of dozens upon dozens of women that are sexy as well.
A few things about my assessment thus far.
1) This trip comes on the heals of a 3 week trip to the PI which was my favorite trip of all time, in terms of the quality of the women.
2) I arrived during a hideous heat wave-the first three days were 10 degrees over norm for here.
3) There is something about the intensity of the chicas and the whole scene, the assertivness of the enviornment, if that makes sense, that I was perhaps not expecting. I have spent a lot of time with Dominicans and Cubanas in my lifetime, so I should have been prepared, but get 1000s of them together and mix with the above two factors, and it feels, shall we say,"heavy."
4) I feel more like a comodity here than ANYPLACE I have ever been. That also is not a great feeling.
5) The stupid prices of the food for what you get annoy the Phuck out of me.
6) I think I have made some mediocre decisions and not have used my interviewing skills well.
7) I do prefer bit, intense, vibrant cities to this scene- that is just me. I loved Manila, so that should tell you something. Most people just hate the place.
I do think that the existing in a brothel "thang" make it a bit harder to get GFE.
9) The better quality of chicas, and the more part timers, really do seem to be late night at Classicos. My timing has been a bit off.
So, I am having fun, and loving hanging out with my buddies. I have had a few very good sessions, but like I said, in the heals of the PI where EVERYTHING was spectacular for me, this has been a bit of a letdown. Again, that is my fault for not clearing my mind enough.
Still, tons of good times, some good sex, good memoires, and the story will continue.
I will fill in the gaps later, so sorry for the lack of chronological rigor. I will also provide a concluding thoughts, perhaps as late as a week or two from now, as a way of putting it all together.
The last day, or the last full day, we decided to start the day with some early afternoon drinks at a bar on the way to Passions and CMP, Carribean Men's Paradise. I had taken a look in during the day previously, and there were a couple that were very cute, and a couple not so cute. I liked the set up, in many ways, more than Passions. Passions is more of a nightclub set up, and the chicas are behind the bar, and parked right in front of your face. That is fine if you FEEL like having a chica in your face, but in truth, the whole culture here is so assertive and in your shit I wanted them to back the Phuck off a bit.
At CMP, you can sit at the bar, on in an open aired place next to the bar that has couches. Far more comfortable, IMHO.
Now, the talent at 2pm upon entry was far lower quality overall than Passions, although three were pretty fine, out of about 8 chicas. We sat at the bar for a while, and then proceeded to the couches. The chicas were an another couch perhaps ten feet from us. I persuaded one to dance on the pole by doing a bit of a show myself- one spinner returned the favor. The girls seems to like my foolish antics, especially one who looked intreged.
I begin to talk to her for a while, and she said she was watching me the night before at Classicos. Sure sure, nice line. No, la verdad, she is very insitant, and then spends about ten minutes describing where I was and when, to what songs I would dance and which I would not, and who I was dancing with. This chica was clearly watching me, and the thought of some extremly cute, sexy eyed chica in her late 20s paying that much interest to my middle age ass shaking on the dancefloor was hot!
We continue to talk, and flirt. She is holding my hand and staring intently into my eyes. Later that night. Diablito would tell us, over dinner, that watching us look at each other was like watching a porno film.
But, who cares about this, right? Let me just say, I went back for more cash, and pulled her from 20 hours, spending more money on a working girl than I have ever spent in my life, $180. Classicos and this place are expensive for long term, but I was NOT willing to take a change on her being snapped up.
Was it worth it? One of the best night of my life, in truth. We returned to my room and over the next 18 hours made love nearlly constanly, excpet while at dinner with my buddies. I felt bad that I brought a chica to our fairwell dinner, but the connection was so exceptional that I just had to, and they understood. I came more with this lovely women than I have with anyone in a long time, five times in total. The sex was far superior to anything that I had over the week and a half before- 100% exhilerating while being totally loving and tender at the same time. She keyed into ever desire I had, and come to learn my body as if she were studying an ancient scroll. She knew my body, within an hour, better than most have ever known it. You might say she was doing her job, but this women wanted me, and damn, I wanted her. Over and over.
This chicas was 100% proof of the importance of really only going with this whom I feel a strong conection with. Too often on this trip did I fall into the trap of pulling a chica just becuase she was there, talking the path of least resistance and going with a sexy face or body. That is not why I monger- I get laid mostly whenever I really want to- I monger for prefect moments such as these.
In the monger, we slowly said goodbye over breakfast, each of us sighing. It was not love. It was just a wonderful mix of passion, a real connection, and a serondipitous encounter where one should not have happened.
Yeah yeah Hank, you paid her, I was not real, you might say.
It was real. Really phucking amazing. I don't come for love, I come for a mix of fantasy and pleasure, extasy and chance. That was one that I will remember always, when my dick is to shriveled up and limp to even think about pu*sy, when my looks are even more gone than they are now, when the possiblity of sturing the slightest emotion in a sexy women have long since past.
This was worth the price of the whole phucking trip, and certainly the 180 bucks I (over) spent.
One random info. Lets go with food.
Mostly stupid prices- just below the states. Not Latin America prices.
La Parillada- very lovely and good steakhouse on the edge of town. Airly, breezy and classy. 8/10.
Vienteuno- creative cooking in a fushion style- lovely and good. 8/10.
Comedor Rikky (spell?). On the way to Passions, half way form the NG. Good comedor, excellent fish. Reasonable, good down home food. 7/10.
Venues.
Classicos has so many damn hot women it is sick. Many are agressive clockwatchers. I wish I spent more time there and interviewed continuosly- I just was a bit lazy (well, save for dancing for hours, which I did the last four nights). If I were to go to Sousa again, I would try to take a disco nap each night and go clubbing at Classicos at about 11 or 12. Get there early for a good seat, and look for Passions chicas for 1/3 the price.
New Garden- pass on chicas there. Overall proformance is lower grade. The chicas talked openly to me about their conversations among themslves, and have decided to kiss very little. It shows you the importance of understanding "mico cultures." I understood too soon, and frankly, as just lazy.
Rumbas- Open aired beer garden. Had too very good sessions, two ok sessions. One, Nicole, sexy curley hair, is a good Phuck. Interview for less hard core girls but ones with some experience. My 18 year old perfect hottie was just basically a good Phuck as she was hot- not much passion or skill.
The other open aired bars- YMMV and it varies by moment. Chicas to be had everywhere from 4pm on. Before that, always something around for a quicky or a hummer, but quality varies.
Passions- hot women, I did not partake, not sure why.
CMP- mixed talent, good vibe, and I hit the lotto with my pic.
Overall sexual experiences. In hindsight, I would have to say about on par with CR. The irony is that the vibe of the place and tentnecy to just pick and Phuck lead to mediocre sessions. I mean, the place is a working girl house, and the girl are very agressive and annoying, at times. So, sometimes I just picked the first hot, not annoying chica to Phuck, and this lead to poor results. Were I to come again, I would try to be far more social and interview constantly. No Spanish is needed for sex here, but tons of spanish is needed for amazing sex. That, or luck, which is basically how I feel about CR. That is the paradox; both are totally easy venues for guys with no Spanish but the lack of Spanish makes them both hit and miss. It is a paradise for guys who want a 10 minute suck and then pump for 30 and dump. I mean, there probably is no place better in the world if that is your thing.
GFE? Way below other places I have been. BBBJ? I never received a BJ with a condom- it was just a given. Good blowjobs, at least good licking and teasing. Some rush, some don't Kissing? A few kissed well, but the worst kissers I have been with, overall (besides the FKK and some of the worst place to monger in Central America).
Bodies? Some killer bodies, many momma tummies-that does not bother me.
Never though have I been more annoyed to be around chicas. While I loved my time with a few, the overall personality in Sosua, and I will only speak for Sosua, is money grubbing, aggressive, and intrusive. What Colombians do with elegance and subtlty, what Peruvians do with a gentle look and a bright small, what a Pinay does with laughter, these chicas doe with aggression. They often want to intimidate you into taking them- very odd. Not a place for a guy without balls-these chicas would walk all over you.
A few times I had to set limits and tell a chica to calm down and slow down or she was out the door (said kindly, with a smile, but very firmly). They both shaped up, but that is not my idea of fun.
Still, there is diversity as well, and some were just lovely, engaging, and delightful. Many have great sense of humors. I had a great time dancing in Classicos for many hours, and would just plop down in front of chicas and dance with groups of them for hours. Big fun.
So, next I address the question, would I, will I be back?
80 percent of the chicas hit me up for more money that we agreed upon. Or, in the two instances when I did not agree on a price, there was considerable post-session negotiation. This nearly ruins my post-session / evening bliss (to the degree that I had it). I would mostly smile and say "not this time, perhaps next time, if you would still like to be with me." This usually got them to say, of course, of course, no problem. Still made the overall experiences less wonderful than they could have been.
There were more "obvious" liars, or at least bad liars, than other places. The chica that was a "medical student" was not able / willing to identify one detail about her school, her favorite subjects, or most difficult subjecs. When asked about her professors, it became clear that she never made it out of secondary school, at best. Of course, in classic Sosua chica form, she used a bit of anger to deflect the situation.
Hotel-I really did not describe how bad my first two nights were at the NG, before I switched room and before the first weekend's crowd left. Perhaps the loudest most foolish bunch I have seen since my old punk rock days. And before this digresses into a racial discussion as it has in the past on this and other boards, there were asshole tools represented among each race. None spoke any Spanish, or cared to try. Mysogyny ruled the roost.
Overall, I think the NG is a mediocre hotel that is overpriced. I had a top end room with a Jacuzzi, which I very much enjoyed, but it was 95 bucks when paying with a card. Terra Linda, Diablitos hotel, was even worse from a price to quality ratio.
That said, the staff at the NG are very nice, for the most part. If you like quiet, stay on the 4th floor, but be prepared for a whole lot of steps. Still, if you do enjoy a more chill enviornment, I would pass. I also have decided I really like to go TO the hookers and not have them in my hotel. For me, I guess I do prefer La Amistad over the SL, for example, to provide you a sense of my prefernces.
Well, it looks like it is time to wrap this up. I missed a few sessions and a couple of days, but you all do not need every detail. Hopefully, I provided some sense of the scene and what it is like. Feel free to ask questions and I can respond.
So, the punchline, would I return?
Maybe, and under certain conditions. This trip marked my eight year of the hobby as a hobby, and I am thrilled to have gone.
First, it would have to be with good friends.
Two, would rent a villa and get a good cabbie to drive me around. No phucking way I am getting on one of those motobike taxies without a helmet. Sure, call me a pu*sy, but I value my noggin.
Three, would try to get on a different rythem, perhaps with the use of sleeping aids, to make sure I sleep in later, take naps, and hang out later. I did really like Classicos.
Four, only during the coolest months of the year.
Five, less time mongering in Sosua, and time spent seeing other parts of the country.
My sessions, upon reflection, were better than I thought. A few great, one magical, a couple good, a few mediocre, but nothing really bad. It is a great place to party, and I am glad I went and had the expereince. I am not rushing back, but if the opporunity presents, sure I would go.
Shout outs to two of my best friends, and my wingment, Diablito and Shadowman. I feel truly sad for those who don't have real friends in life, and ten days with you both reinforceces that feeling.
Great to have true friends to hobby with. Chis Long, great meeting you-too bad we did not hang out more.
Thanks to all the other guys who gave me solid advice and shared their impressions. I might think of some more things to write, but this feel free to stop reading if you have gotten this far.
Overall, I rate Sosua as even with CR, above Tijuana and Frankfurt, below LOS, Peru and Colombia, which are a step above, and below the PI, which, IMHO, is the best place I have been.
Party on dudes.
SavePros321
06-15-12, 22:53
Thanks in advance for reporting. It's going to take me a while to read through all of your reports, but since you took the time to write them I plan to read them all.
Now, the problem. My phucking room at the NG (I have since moved). Midnight, and there is screaming. Not chica screaming, but testosterone laden phucked up 25 year old men thinking they are on service leave / at a frat party / at a house party, or just loose for the first time ever. This goes on for HOURS. And worse, since I am with a chica, I don't want to put in earplugs (I am not the most trusting soul in the world).
So, not being able to sleep, which I really need badly, I decide I just try to Phuck again and go to sleep. Try waking up chica; she is not having it. I persist, and put on a condom. Now, this is the most lifeless Phuck I have had in year. Usually I am able to get a quick rise and soon have an active partner that enjoys (or pretends) to be enjoying. Not here. I am not phucking a corpse. I know some guys don't care, but no kissing, no moaning, no signs that this is anything more than an annoyance? Not my bag. So, at 4am, I stop, she goes to sleep, and I am left hearing dudes in the hallway talk about all the money they paid to this chica and their friends at some club, did not get laid, somebody is in jail, Phuck this pu*sy, ***** phucking shit pu*sy ***** that, music loud as Phuck. 5am, I am beat, now feel like shit. 6, the crap stops, and I sleep for a couple of hours.
One of the main reasons I have yet to return to NG. And it's a shame too because I love their jacuzzi suites. But the grown-ass men acting like young-ass retards is what keeps me from booking there again.
BoricuaOnline
06-16-12, 03:52
No posts in hours, everybody are reading Psychman reports. Great reports and thanks for your time. I am going to spend a weekend in Sosua June 22 to 25. Sosua is better enjoyed if you are with friends, you are right. In fact almost every place is better enjoyed if you are with friends. About chica prices I agreed with all for 1, 000 pesos when I visited Sosua last Feb. But as you say they later usually ask more money for taxi etc. So I was always prepared to pay 200 or 300 pesos more. My budget per chica was 1, 500 so 1, 300 for good sex was more than ok for me. A guy from Spain emailed me the following tonight: "Don't go to Sosua, there are bad and expensive hookers there, they have more kids than my grandma. All girls there are liars, all are married with a chulo that manages her money. I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them, for a fraction of the price, they are girlfriends and provide GFE experience with their relatives blessings. Small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you. They ask for triple the price and you got lucky if they do not stole your money."
I just returned last Tuesday from my 4th trip this year to PI and I too much prefer a GFE and Amistad to SL. I have a week at the end of July I am trying to decide where to go. PI prices are sky high this summer (My first Choice) so I am debating between taking my first Sousa trip or returning to SJO or MDE (been to both many, many times). My Spanish is adequate. I actually often have difficulty attaining erection without passionate kissing. SOooooooooooo everything you touched on in your excellent report rang a bell with me. Thank you for taking the time and making the effort. I greatly appreciate it.
Blk Big Bootyluv
06-16-12, 05:15
OYES BELLECO! Jajaa.
Boricua, I will be surprised if you like Sosua. Lots of hardcore putas asking for working girl american prices. When I was there last year the talent was not what I experienced in 2005. I was getting campo girls that were looking for a good time.
I went twice in 2011 both time were exceedingly displeasing because I like local non-pros. Given you spanish skills I see you making mental conexcions with chicas and maybe gettinga chica who has a 9to5 job. Idk just my guess, might be wrong. BB has great talent as well as pasions. The freelancers idk how you will mesh with them.
Peace.
BBL
No posts in hours, everybody are reading Psychman reports. Great reports and thanks for your time. I am going to spend a weekend in Sosua June 22 to 25. Sosua is better enjoyed if you are with friends, you are right. In fact almost every place is better enjoyed if you are with friends. About chica prices I agreed with all for 1, 000 pesos when I visited Sosua last Feb. But as you say they later usually ask more money for taxi etc. So I was always prepared to pay 200 or 300 pesos more. My budget per chica was 1, 500 so 1, 300 for good sex was more than ok for me. A guy from Spain emailed me the following tonight: "Don't go to Sosua, there are bad and expensive hookers there, they have more kids than my grandma. All girls there are liars, all are married with a chulo that manages her money. I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them, for a fraction of the price, they are girlfriends and provide GFE experience with their relatives blessings. Small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you. They ask for triple the price and you got lucky if they do not stole your money."
Tempoecorto
06-16-12, 05:22
I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them, for a fraction of the price, they are girlfriends and provide GFE experience with their relatives blessings. Small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you. They ask for triple the price and you got lucky if they do not stole your money."No free lunch! The problem is not that you do not find willing women elsewhere but in small towns they have different expectations. And often times, you may have to lie to get pussy. I do not know if that is worthwhile or paying more without having any remorse is better.
Mr Enternational
06-16-12, 05:53
A guy from Spain emailed me the following tonight: "Don't go to Sosua, there are bad and expensive hookers there, they have more kids than my grandma. All girls there are liars, all are married with a chulo that manages her money. I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them,."Does he fuck the girl and their parents at the same time? Not getting why he would care if the girls in Sosua are liars either. I don't know many guys running down there for their honesty rating.
Mr Enternational
06-16-12, 06:09
Well, it looks like it is time to wrap this up. I missed a few sessions and a couple of days, but you all do not need every detail. Hopefully, I provided some sense of the scene and what it is like.I read every word. Maybe I do need a life. You covered every base. The only thing I saw missing was a session with a Classico girl. I would have loved to see how that would have influenced your thoughts. Although I guess your La Passion girl could double as your Classico experience since she did actually see you there. (BTW, what happened with the guys saying La Passion girls were not allowed to freelance?)
Four, only during the coolest months of the year.There are no coolest months!
Overall, I rate Sosua as even with CR, above Tijuana and Frankfurt, below LOS, Peru and Colombia, which are a step above, and below the PI, which, IMHO, is the best place I have been.I agree with every one of your observations about Sosua. But really liking Manila? And IMHO your rating is spot on except that I would switch LOS and PI.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1293636]I read every word. Maybe I do need a life. You covered every base. The only thing I saw missing was a session with a Classico girl. I would have loved to see how that would have influenced your thoughts. Although I guess your La Passion girl could double as your Classico experience since she did actually see you there. (BTW, what happened with the guys saying La Passion girls were not allowed to freelance?)
There are no coolest months!
I agree with every one of your observations about Sosua. But really liking Manila? And IMHO your rating is spot on except that I would switch LOS and PI. [/QUOT.
No coolest months- I suspected that the guys who told me November was cooler were trying to drag me back. Manila is certainly not for everyone, and I totally understand why some people hate it- you have to love foolish megolopolisis to even tolerate Manila (and I do love such places, so.)
As far as the LOS verse PI debate- you know, six of one, half a dozen of another. Some guys seem to connect more to one than the other. One of my wingmen on this trip is not an LOS fan, and says that his sessions there (one trip) were mechanical and robotic. Not my experience at all, but it goes to show you that YMMV, right?
You are correct that about my not pulling a Classicos chica, although three of the women I was with I saw at Classicos, so mabye that counts. As I said, if I go again, I will focus more on the disco, and perhaps more on waitresses and other less obviously sharky chicas.
PS...thanks for taking the time to read it...from reading your posts, sounds like you have plenty of "a life." :)
A guy from Spain emailed me the following tonight: "Don't go to Sosua, there are bad and expensive hookers there, they have more kids than my grandma. All girls there are liars, all are married with a chulo that manages her money. I only go to small towns where I met the girls and her parents and no problem pucking them, for a fraction of the price, they are girlfriends and provide GFE experience with their relatives blessings. Small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you. They ask for triple the price and you got lucky if they do not stole your money."So apparently he is paying these small town girls 500 pesos or so and they are being pimped by their parents.
The only problem with this game plan could be the lack of suitable amenities such as tourist quality hotels and restaurants and the general level of boredom and poverty in these small towns. Probably "going native" in this manner does provide an interesting anthropological experience, but most people probably would not enjoy it very much.
However one has to wonder about the reliability of this man's information. Admittedly some of these issues are a matter of opinion, and the claim that most girls are financially supporting Dominican guys has been raised here before, but to say "you got lucky if they do not (steal) your money" seems like hyperbole to me. Certainly something to look out for, but not as prevalent as he says.
Also "small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you" seems to ignore the fact that many of the Sosua chicas are also small town girls, so the difference, according to him, is between small town girls who stay at home and are pimped by their parents for very small amounts of money and small town girls who choose to leave home and be pimped in Sosua by chulos for a bit more money, albeit in a more convivial atmosphere.
BoricuaOnline
06-16-12, 14:03
OYES BELLECO! Jajaa.
Boricua, I will be surprised if you like Sosua. Lots of hardcore putas asking for working girl american prices. When I was there last year the talent was not what I experienced in 2005. I was getting campo girls that were looking for a good time.
I went twice in 2011 both time were exceedingly displeasing because I like local non-pros. Given you spanish skills I see you making mental conexcions with chicas and maybe gettinga chica who has a 9to5 job. Idk just my guess, might be wrong. BB has great talent as well as pasions. The freelancers idk how you will mesh with them.
Peace.
BBLHey Oso bellaco jejeje! I went to Sosua last February and enjoyed the place and the chicas a lot. Maybe I was lucky and got good service providers but I have no complaints about that trip except that food on some restaurants was mediocre. Finding that over 60% of the chicas I saw on Classicos my first night there were very hot was a pleasant surprise. Besides the pros I met a Badoo chica from Puerto Plata who provided excellent GFE twice. I am going to see her again. I also have lined up two chicas for my first day in Santo Domingo.
Tempoecorto
06-16-12, 17:24
So apparently he is paying these small town girls 500 pesos or so and they are being pimped by their parents.
Also "small town chicas are not pros like Sosua chicas who comes from around the country in search of gringos like you" seems to ignore the fact that many of the Sosua chicas are also small town girls, so the difference, according to him, is between small town girls who stay at home and are pimped by their parents for very small amounts of money and small town girls who choose to leave home and be pimped in Sosua by chulos for a bit more money, albeit in a more convivial atmosphere.Agree with the last paragraph completely.
I have never been to a dirt poor country (LOL, I am from one) looking for women and though I have heard of parents pimping out, I find that to be a stretch. Now my experience in the DR is very much circumscribed but even then, when women came to see me, say in Santiago from surrounding towns- As far as three hours' drive, (I would imagine some of such places would be "small towns") I never saw any attempt to offer their goods in exchange for money, nor did I see the abject poverty one speaks of. All had cell phones etc and were cyberchat savvy. If anything, time and again, I saw in these women, an interest in something "serious" and time and again, I paid them some money, fed them and sent them home with thanks for taking the trouble to come and see me.
So my question is: is the small town girl a figment of imagination in these times of facebook? Is there anyone here who can speak of personal experience instead of hand me downs? The one reason why I would be interested in going to the proverbial "small" towns would definitely be the anthropological experience. I can handle the material inconvenience, I think, but time is the only f...ng issue holding me back.
So my question is: is the small town girl a figment of imagination in these times of facebook? Is there anyone here who can speak of personal experience instead of hand me downs? The one reason why I would be interested in going to the proverbial "small" towns would definitely be the anthropological experience. I can handle the material inconvenience, I think, but time is the only f.ng issue holding me back.That is really part of my point. I notice that often when people want to say very negative things about the women in Sosua, or about Sosua in general, they don't want to stick to specific first-hand anecdotes about the bad things that happened to them that made them decide not to visit Sosua any more, but just dish out generalities and platitudes about how all of them will steal from you. How about writing about the occasion when a girl stole from you, with all the circumstances, and some discussion of how this could have been avoided with suitable precautions?
Of course this example was just something posted second hand from an e-mail, but it fits into the general pattern. Hopefully Boricuaonline told his correspondent in Spain that he had more favorable experiences in Sosua than the Spaniard.
Tempoecorto
06-16-12, 18:00
Well, it looks like it is time to wrap this up. I missed a few sessions and a couple of days, but you all do not need every detail. Hopefully, I provided some sense of the scene and what it is like. Feel free to ask questions and I can respond. Enjoyed reading your Magnum Opus. Thank you for taking so much time to write down your thoughts (and some were rather insightful). Evidently you been writing about it even before your trip started, which for me was a first time! Kudos.
Question: What is LOS? And what is the definition of a "spinner". I see the word here but never sure of its intended meaning.
Observations:
1. You mostly went with professional women and so expecting them to kiss might have been a little too much? I found in at least two experiences, women from clasico were not averse to "good" kissing. Personally, I feel kissing works well only when there is some chemistry so it does not work well for me for random picks.
2. I enjoyed your foray into the "other side" of town. The real Sosua, even though it was short and in other instances, I learned from your comparative analyses of various latin american countries, about which I know nothing.
3. In that town of Sosua, all these women congregate to make some money and so I am not surprised that some are aggressive, especially those that you do not want as you astutely observed. I would warn you however not to extrapolate from that experience and generalize in terms of the country. In my experience, women in the parts I have been to, in the DR are just about as normal as anywhere else; Some downright shy.
4. Finally, given that you are fluent in Spanish, Sosua is a good landing spot and it certainly gives you an initial vista preparing you to explore others locations.
P.S.: I loved the analogy of "thai food without rice, sashimi without wasabi" !
Tempoecorto
06-16-12, 18:33
That is really part of my point. I notice that often when people want to say very negative things about the women in Sosua, or about Sosua in general, they don't want to stick to specific first-hand anecdotes about the bad things that happened to them that made them decide not to visit Sosua any more, but just dish out generalities and platitudes about how all of them will steal from you. How about writing about the occasion when a girl stole from you, with all the circumstances, and some discussion of how this could have been avoided with suitable precautions?
Of course this example was just something posted second hand from an e-mail, but it fits into the general pattern. Hopefully Boricuaonline told his correspondent in Spain that he had more favorable experiences in Sosua than the Spaniard.I met and enjoyed much the company of a "Juan", at the hotel in Puerto Plata I stayed in November last year. Delightful curmudgeon of a Spaniard when you do not know him, he was there doing 2 months at that time and loved the place. He spoke practically no English which made it particularly interesting for me, especially his thoughts on the local language. He got lucky as once we went to dinner, the girl staying with me (who you met this time) brought a friend of hers along. So I guess there are Spaniards and Spaniards.
In general however, I see no point in dissing one particular place or another. It would be nice to learn from first hand bad experiences but even those are not too useful either (after all if we did learn from others' experiences, there would be no war any longer LOL). Your own experiences are what makes you who you are.
Enjoyed reading your Magnum Opus. Thank you for taking so much time to write down your thoughts (and some were rather insightful). Evidently you been writing about it even before your trip started, which for me was a first time! Kudos.
Question: What is LOS? And what is the definition of a "spinner". I see the word here but never sure of its intended meaning.
Observations:
1. You mostly went with professional women and so expecting them to kiss might have been a little too much? I found in at least two experiences, women from clasico were not averse to "good" kissing. Personally, I feel kissing works well only when there is some chemistry so it does not work well for me for random picks.
2. I enjoyed your foray into the "other side" of town. The real Sosua, even though it was short and in other instances, I learned from your comparative analyses of various latin american countries, about which I know nothing.
3. In that town of Sosua, all these women congregate to make some money and so I am not surprised that some are aggressive, especially those that you do not want as you astutely observed. I would warn you however not to extrapolate from that experience and generalize in terms of the country. In my experience, women in the parts I have been to, in the DR are just about as normal as anywhere else; Some downright shy.
4. Finally, given that you are fluent in Spanish, Sosua is a good landing spot and it certainly gives you an initial vista preparing you to explore others locations.
P. S. : I loved the analogy of "thai food without rice, sashimi without wasabi"!If you think that was long, you should see some of my other trip reports. So, to respond. LOS equals Land of Smiles, or Thailand. Second, I have never been to a place where I have not had over 90% "luck" getting even the hardcore pros to make out, so I am not sure what to say about that, other than this is my experience. Third, I totally. 100% am sure that this was only about SOSUA, and NOT about the DR in general. I know nothing about the DR outside of a very small band- my trip report was only about one place and one time. You are 100% correct that no generalization should be made form my trip report to other parts of the DR. I would love to return to the DR and tool around. Sadly (or fortunatly) my work life guides that vast majority of my travels, even for play, so I am not sure when I would be back. I hope so, but we shall see. Were I not with a friend who really wanted (and needed for health reasons) to stay put a bit, I would have explored more.
Thanks for the response.
Thanks for the response.Well written, very thoughtful posts, thanks for contributing.
Mr Enternational
06-16-12, 19:52
And what is the definition of a "spinner".A really thin girl, so light that you can figuratively spin like a basketball while she is riding cowboy. The term is used mostly in Asia.
Tempoecorto
06-16-12, 23:14
A really thin girl, so light that you can figuratively spin like a basketball while she is riding cowboy. The term is used mostly in Asia.Ah. Thanks. Mystery solved!
I have been to a whole bunch of South East Asian cities. Like 50 times (for work) not to speak of my two year sojourn in Singapore but then, there was no internet forums like this (or at least I did not know) so never heard the term. Besides, I always travel alone but for some local guys, at times, whether it was Djakarta or Kuching or Taipei or Bangkok or Hong Kong. To me, while Bangkok is much spoken about, Jakarta is THE place. Korea is another interesting place for a Man. Japan was bad. Even with a Japanese friend calling, getting someone to visit an "overseas friend" was like pulling teeth in Nagoya; this in stark contrast to all places where a Gaijin is much sought after. See the D. R. Manila, I only went a couple of times and still remember, the first time, went to Makati Mandarin and within minutes of checking in, women were calling in. Evidently, they were paying the front desk for info. However, my reaction, seeing the typical massage parlors, was unenthusiastic. So seeing people's positive comments here about the Philippines, evidently, I thought, people are speaking of parts I have no clue about. But my knowledge is also dated, it was prior to 2000 and the Philippines are doing much better now, economy wise.
I have 24 year old sweety who has a regular job. She barely make ends meet. I met her on Cupid. She is frm Sanfrancisco merconis. She came to SD to be with me. For her it was a nice vacation. She said I could have anything but the Culo. On my next trip I stayed in her house and met everyone and the family. Sex with her has been the best. She loves haveing me eat her pussy. The sounds that come from her are priceless. I enjoy hanging out with her dancing the beach everything.
Agree with the last paragraph completely.
I have never been to a dirt poor country (LOL, I am from one) looking for women and though I have heard of parents pimping out, I find that to be a stretch. Now my experience in the DR is very much circumscribed but even then, when women came to see me, say in Santiago from surrounding towns- As far as three hours' drive, (I would imagine some of such places would be "small towns") I never saw any attempt to offer their goods in exchange for money, nor did I see the abject poverty one speaks of. All had cell phones etc and were cyberchat savvy. If anything, time and again, I saw in these women, an interest in something "serious" and time and again, I paid them some money, fed them and sent them home with thanks for taking the trouble to come and see me.
So my question is: is the small town girl a figment of imagination in these times of facebook? Is there anyone here who can speak of personal experience instead of hand me downs? The one reason why I would be interested in going to the proverbial "small" towns would definitely be the anthropological experience. I can handle the material inconvenience, I think, but time is the only f. Ng issue holding me back.
Tempoecorto
06-17-12, 00:09
I have 24 year old sweety who has a regular job. She barely make ends meet. I met her on Cupid. She is frm Sanfrancisco merconis. She came to SD to be with me. For her it was a nice vacation. She said I could have anything but the Culo. On my next trip I stayed in her house and met everyone and the family. Sex with her has been the best. She loves haveing me eat her pussy. The sounds that come from her are priceless. I enjoy hanging out with her dancing the beach everything.Funny, I know a 27 year old from San Franisco de Macoris too.not in the sense you do though. BTW, it is not a "small" town. It is the third largest city in the DR, immediately after SD and Santiago! I thinks of places in the boondocks when I think of small town. LOL.
Chris Long
06-17-12, 01:03
Chris Long in Dominican Republic.
Spent five days in Blackbeard and five days in Sosua at the New Garden.
Airport:
The airport itself is small and slow compared to the ones I am used to. I found both arrival and departure to be pretty painless there is a $10 entrance fee that you pay once you enter, there is no exit fee when you leave.
Black Beards:
Black Beards is a fuck paradise, basically all you do in Black Beards is fuck all day. The women that you see in the newsletter and in some of the trip reports are indeed the women that are there. Personally I am attracted to the dark exotic types so I thought the women were HOT, I felt you could close your eyes and point and you would be happy with the girl you got. The place itself was a little smaller than I had imagined and a little more rustic but still a nice place. I had the basic standard room which I thought was a nice room, hot and cold running water air conditioning a safe, good wifi connection in my room. I was happy with the room.
The Staff were a good group of people the managers Tim and Cliff were helpful guys.
It cost 1600 pesos for one to two hours with a girl and 3000 pesos for overnight. There is also a Jacuzzi in black beards that is secluded from the rest of the pool where you can take one or more girls for a BBBJ for 500 pesos per girl. I found this to be a bit of a turn on and used it several times with the girls. But the Jacuzzi did not seem to get a great deal of use, every time I went back there I was the only one using it. There is a sign and a buzzer that says ring bell for servicing in the Jacuzzi, not servicing of the Jacuzzi but servicing in the Jacuzzi.
The girls can be a bit high pressure and will come up to you rub you in all the right spots (Mr. Happy) and try to get you to session with them or try to get you to schedule an appointment with them for later that day or the next day. A word of caution if you schedule an appointment with a girl and don't keep it you are still obligated to pay the fee. While I had many wonderful sessions with the girls I did notice a tendency for many of them to be very professional in service, there seemed to be a certain amount of bad acting in the bedroom fake mooning and even a tendency to try to rush the session. Also some pressure to get you to buy drinks and see how far and how much they could get from you. There is certain since that this is a job for them and you are just a means to an end. That being said I did have many great sessions with the girls and plan on returning to Black Beards for many years to come. There are two shift of girls the first one arrives around 11 am and the second arrives around 6 pm and leaves by midnight. Things really shut down at midnight, after that time there's nothing there but the crickets. If you want a girl after that time you will have to arrange a TLN before midnight. Every time I did a TLN the girls always left around eight or nine in the morning.
Black Beards is in a gated community I felt very safe walking around outside of Black Beards and even went out a couple of times after dark but didn't go very far. The food at Black Beards is good and you get a good size portion of food. I ate a couple of times at some of the restaurants in the area and some of the small shacks that are on the beach but really did not notice any difference in food price so I started eating exclusively at Black Beards. There is a good group of mongers hanging out there and even if you go alone as I did you will be able to make friends quickly.
Exchanging money, in the Dom. Rep. Things work almost exclusively with Dominican pesos so you will want to exchange your money for pesos. Do not change your money at the airport, they have the worst exchange rates. When at Black Beards you want to exchange your money at Jenney's. Jenney's is a small store that is in the gated community with Black Beards they have the best exchange rate. Black Beards will also exchange your money but at a couple pesos below what Jenney's will give you. You can pick up snacks alcohol and other things at Jenney's as well. I think the policy at Black Beards is if you bring in food or alcohol from outside you have to keep it in your room and you are limited on the amount you can bring in. Jenney's is easy to find from Black Beards once you exit Black Beards go to your right and follow the winding road, you will eventually come to Jenney's. The roads can be a bit confusing at first as they are not laid out on a square grid pattern but seem to wind all around. The place however, is not that large and after walking around a bit you will become familure with it. You can ask your taxi driver when you arrive to stop at Jenney's to exchange money, as I did, before he drops you off at Black Beards.
Black Beards will arrange a taxi pick up for you from the airport for $45 that you pay along with your room fee when you check in; you do not pay the driver directly.
The beach will be to your left once you exit Black Beards, it's fairly close and easy to find, just follow the winding road. The beach is nice, there are some small shacks that sell souvenirs and food. I personally did not venture outside of Black Beards often as I spent so much time fucking. But some of the guys said they seen a few freelancers along the beach. On my few trips to Jenney's, the beach and the restaurants I did notice some attractive locals who lived in the area but I never approached any of them so I don't know if they were available for P4P, but I would tend to think so.
Crystals.
Made it to crystals one night, Taxi fair there and back is somewhat costly If I remember correctly I think it was $20 or more. From my perspective I did not think the women at Crystals were anything better than at Black Beards. It cost $100 USA for in house and I believe it was $140 for TLN take out. I talked with a couple of the girls there, told them what I liked and both of the girls I talked with said they would not do BBBJ so I took a pass at Crystals and never session with any of their girls.
SOSUA.
The cab far from Black Beards to Sosua arranged by Black Beards was $60. There were three of us going as two mongers from Black Beards wanted to check out Sosua. The driver took us to my hotel where I checked in, took us to the beach where I picked up a couple of freelancers. Dropped me and the freelancers off at the New Garden and then took the other two to Passions and then back to Black Beards. I don't know if the price would have been cheaper if the driver was just going to take me to New Garden or not, but $60 is a hell of a lot in my opinion. The cab from the Sosua / New Garden, to the airport was only $25. There are cabbies outside of New Garden and you can get one of them when you are ready to leave.
New Garden:
Stayed at the New Garden Hotel in the old wing, Had the basic standard room, it was nice, air conditioning, a ceiling fan, a safe, I had a good wifi connection, not a bad room. There were a great group of mongers there to meet up with and hang out with and get advice from. Freelancers hanging out by the pool, many in my opinion were in the 6 to 7 to 8 range. I have heard a lot about the noise and the ruckus at New Garden but I really didn't notice it on my stay, it got quiet and vacant at night. I could hear some people talking down by the pool in the morning, I could hear some street noise from the other side of the room and they were even doing some construction so I could hear that as well. But either I am getting used to traveling in these conditions or maybe it was the ceiling fan drowning out most of the noise, my exhaustion or the hot little 22 year old I girlfriend up with sleeping next to me each night and morning. But I did not think the noise was a distraction at all. You can also exchange your money at New Garden, they gave a better rate than Black Beards but not as good a rate as you can get from the bank.
The bank I used was bank Popular, if you exit New Garden turn to your right go down to the corner and turn left the bank will be a few paces down on your right hand side. They gave me the best exchange rate; there is also an ATM machine outside which I used as well.
Sosua is a freelance place; I picked up girls in the street, in the stores, along the main strip of bars, in the bars, walking to passions, at the beach, walking to the bank and even in the bank. I girlfriend up early on this portion of my trip so I did not get to sample as many women as I would of liked, but I was never turned down by any girl I approached. I had no problem getting girls for 1500 for the hour and TLN at least with the first girl I girlfriend up with for 3000. If you exit New Garden and turn to your left go up about two blocks and then turn to your right you will find the main strip of bars. Classicos seems to be the main disco; it is up stars next to a sign that says club 59, there is a cover charge to enter. There are many other bars along the strip with lots of attractive girls so there really is no reason to enter classicos if you don't want to. As I said I girlfriend up on this portion of my vacation so I was not able to approach as many women as I wanted but I was never turned down by any girl I approached at classicos or any of the bars along the strip.
Passions and CMP club are in the opposite direction along the strip. If you exit New Garden go up to the strip and instead of turning to your right U-turn left you will find Passions and CMP club. It is about a five to ten minute walk on your right hand side. There are moto conch guys everywhere who will give you a ride for anywhere from 50 to 100 pesos but I personally never used them and just walked everywhere. You can also find freelancers along this portion as well. I picked up a petite little cup cake Haitian girl once walking back from passions.
Went to Passions twice, the first time was in the middle of the day, the place was a little more rustic than I had imagined but still a nice place. The day time staff was nice but not outstanding. Went back at night and the staff got a lot better, session with a HOT girl for the hour. 2500 pesos, you pay the girl directly and she will grab some towels some condoms and lead you up to the room. The rooms are nice, air conditioning, shower, clean comfortable. The session was great the girl was outstanding in providing service. Stopped into CMP club once in the afternoon and seen the hottest girl I seen on my entire trip, there were also two other very hot girls working there. Prices at CMP I believe are about the same as Passions.
Went to the beach once on my first day in Sosua, lots of souvenir shacks as well as restaurants along the beach with lots of people, some of these souvenir shacks and restaurants can be somewhat pushy in trying to get you to stop and look at their stuff. Saw a good number of freelancers walking around on the beach and even picked up a couple, one for then and one to come back to my room the next day.
I girlfriend up early on this trip which had both positive and negative aspects to it, at times I wanted to get rid of her because there was so much fine pussy around and I did not want to limit myself to just one. But when she was gone I missed her like hell and wanted her back. I personally found, to my surprise, the sessions with the girls in Sosua to be better in general than the sessions I had with the Black Beards girls. Many of the Sosua girls seemed to really get into it and enjoyed the sex as much as I did, and many seemed to want to girlfriend up with me for my trip. Where as with many of the Black Beards girls there was a thinly veiled since that this was just a job and a certain amount of acting on their part. Going down on the girls and getting a BBBJ was standard everywhere on my trip, though the freelancers in Sosua seemed to really get into it and enjoy it more than the Black Beards girls.
On the negative side, I found the weekdays could be very slow in Sosua, there are still a few girls around but not as many as on the weekends even the weekday nights are slower than on the weekends and things start to slow down much earlier on the weekday nights than on the weekends.
Found Rockys restaurant which is a great place to eat. If you exit New Garden and turn to your left walk up a few paces it will be on your left. I eat there mainly as they seemed to have the best prices on food, which was good and plentiful. I plan on staying there on my return trip in August. Rockys seems to have the right business model in my opinion.
My Spanish is extremely limited but I never found lack of Spanish to be a hindrance at any point along my trip. About 90% of the girls spoke less English than I speak Spanish but they all know what you are there for, the language was never a barrier when trying to come to a deal with the girls. There are also enough mongers who speak good Spanish or enough local who have decent English to help out with other things.
Final Thoughts:
I was blown away by the Dom. Rep. I personally prefer it over Costa Rica or Tijuana and will probably make it my main mongering destination from now on. I think both Black Beards and Sosua are great places in their own way and will continue to visit both. The BBBJ in the Jacuzzi the smorgasbord of pussy at Black Beards the girls coming up and grouping you throughout the day. Picking up freelancers everywhere in Sosua and the illusion that you are picking up regular girls not to mention Passions and CMP club. Personally I think Black Beards is the place to be on the weekdays and Sosua is the place to be on the weekends and that is probably how I will structure my trips from now on.
Thanks For Reading.
Chris
I was blown away by the Dom. Rep. I personally prefer it over Costa Rica or Tijuana and will probably make it my main mongering destination from now on. I think both Black Beards and Sosua are great places in their own way and will continue to visit both.Nice report Chris!
Sousa is one of my favorite spots in the world, so I understand you being blown away. I too prefer it over Costa Rica or Tijuana, but then again, I'm only 20 minutes from Tijuana. I've never been to BBs, so I can't speak of the place, I would think that I would get bored in that environment.
Your stepping out there Chris Long, but don't stop exploring other places just because you found "The One." South America and SEA can be a lot of fun, and then some, as well.
Tomjackin in San Diego
Charles Pooter
06-17-12, 03:47
Thanks for such a well-written and thoughtful report, Chris.
. there is no exit fee when you leave.Every trip I made I had to pay US20 airport departure tax. As we are talking about the DR it seems unlikely this has been abolished so I imagine yours was included in the price of your ticket somewhere. Any other views on this?
Black Beards is in a gated community. I felt very safe walking around outside of Black Beards and even went out a couple of times after dark but didn't go very far.I agree that Costambar is very safe by day and safer than most places in the DR by night, but don't place any reliance on its being "gated". The perimeter is so extensive and the security staff so few that anyone bent on mischief can enter with no trouble. In fact during my one and only stay at Blackbeards a would-be machete-carrying thief scaled up to my third-floor bedroom window in the small hours and tried to break in. All the "gated" bit does is control vehicles entering and not even that successfully as there is an unguarded road in through the golf course.
The roads can be a bit confusing at first as they are not laid out on a square grid pattern.I think only an American city boy could write that.
$60 is a hell of a lot in my opinion. The cab from the Sosua / New Garden, to the airport was only $25.I cannot follow your logic here. Blackbeards to Sosua is maybe four times the distance from the airport to Sosua and you are talking about a return trip (so eight times the distance) , plus two additional stops in town, plus waiting time? US$60 seems reasonable to me and far less than I would expect from the notorious Costambar taxi mafia. You could do it for US$4 each way by public transport, but that's a lot of hassle for a newbie without much Spanish.
Went to Passions twice, the first time was in the middle of the day, the place was a little more rustic than I had imagined.This fits with your "grid pattern" comment. You really are a city boy, aren't you? If you think Passions is "rustic" now you should have seen the original version. Most of my friends much preferred it then. Now it reminds me of being trapped inside a pin-ball machine, all chrome, neon, and coloured lights, not to mention the deafening racket. Whether you like it or not, and many do, it is the least "rustic" and the most blandly "modern" and international puta bar on the North Coast, maybe in the whole of the DR.
Every trip I made I had to pay US20 airport departure tax. As we are talking about the DR it seems unlikely this has been abolished so I imagine yours was included in the price of your ticket somewhere. Any other views on this?The trips that I've traveled there, I had to pay $10 to get that silly tourist visa, but never paid anything to depart. Thailand used to have an exit fee as well, but now it is included in the ticket.
1. Every trip I made I had to pay US20 airport departure tax. As we are talking about the DR it seems unlikely this has been abolished so I imagine yours was included in the price of your ticket somewhere. Any other views on this?
2. Passions. Reminds me of being trapped inside a pin-ball machine, all chrome, neon, and colored lights, not to mention the deafening racket. Whether you like it or not, and many do, it is the least "rustic" and the most blandly "modern" and international puta bar on the North Coast, maybe in the whole of the DR.1. I have seen passengers on charter flights to the UK being dunned for departure tax in the departure lounge. They have these screechy-voiced flight crew with Brummie accents haranguing their cargo over the tannoy.
For tickets to the US, it is included in the approx. $120 for various taxes on a round trip fare.
2. Yes, Passions used to have some charm in the early days, but now it is rather unpleasant. You forgot to mention the girls wearing Halloween-themed orange and black uniforms. Some of the girls are nice, but the place itself deserve the Nobel Prize for Tacky.
If you think that was long, you should see some of my other trip reports. So, to respond. LOS equals Land of Smiles, or Thailand. Second, I have never been to a place where I have not had over 90% "luck" getting even the hardcore pros to make out, so I am not sure what to say about that, other than this is my experience. Third, I totally. 100% am sure that this was only about SOSUA, and NOT about the DR in general. I know nothing about the DR outside of a very small band- my trip report was only about one place and one time. You are 100% correct that no generalization should be made form my trip report to other parts of the DR. I would love to return to the DR and tool around. Sadly (or fortunatly) my work life guides that vast majority of my travels, even for play, so I am not sure when I would be back. I hope so, but we shall see. Were I not with a friend who really wanted (and needed for health reasons) to stay put a bit, I would have explored more.
Thanks for the response.Yes, this was a nice long but very good report. I thank you for your great contribution. I too have alway found or don't understand why I could only get ganny kiss as a form to began to making out but was not a turn off, since I was just sport kucking. My experience has been a hit and not so much miss when the feelings right, not only with the shy girls but the pros too in both LOS and the DR. Those that play that I don't kiss game I just love to get them to that point with that look in their eyes begging to kiss but I just bang them harder. Again thanks for a enjoyable report.
Hi everybody, I'm flying to sousa on July5, this is my first time travel to Dominican Republic. I have two weeks vacation. I was just wondering how many days do I need to stay here to fully enjoy the country and woman? Is 7days to short? Thank you for answering the question.
I think you hit the nails on the head. I am so happy with the DR I have no desire togo anywhere else. I felt BB has serious pros. They are stuck there for shifts. Often they are very bored. I found the sex like you said mechanical. The girls in Sosua seem fresher. The point is you have access to broad spectrum of women. FRom hardcore pros to fresh college girls just off the bus. BB does everything very well. The food accomodation and pricing ara excellent. The jacuzzi at BB may be the best deal in the DR. BBJ with naked women fror 500 pesos can not be beat.
QUOTE=Chris Long; 1293934]Chris Long in Dominican Republic.
Spent five days in Blackbeard and five days in Sosua at the New Garden.
Airport:
The airport itself is small and slow compared to the ones I am used to. I found both arrival and departure to be pretty painless there is a $10 entrance fee that you pay once you enter, there is no exit fee when you leave.
Black Beards:
Black Beards is a fuck paradise, basically all you do in Black Beards is fuck all day. The women that you see in the newsletter and in some of the trip reports are indeed the women that are there. Personally I am attracted to the dark exotic types so I thought the women were HOT, I felt you could close your eyes and point and you would be happy with the girl you got. The place itself was a little smaller than I had imagined and a little more rustic but still a nice place. I had the basic standard room which I thought was a nice room, hot and cold running water air conditioning a safe, good wifi connection in my room. I was happy with the room.
The Staff were a good group of people the managers Tim and Cliff were helpful guys.
It cost 1600 pesos for one to two hours with a girl and 3000 pesos for overnight. There is also a Jacuzzi in black beards that is secluded from the rest of the pool where you can take one or more girls for a BBBJ for 500 pesos per girl. I found this to be a bit of a turn on and used it several times with the girls. But the Jacuzzi did not seem to get a great deal of use, every time I went back there I was the only one using it. There is a sign and a buzzer that says ring bell for servicing in the Jacuzzi, not servicing of the Jacuzzi but servicing in the Jacuzzi.
The girls can be a bit high pressure and will come up to you rub you in all the right spots (Mr. Happy) and try to get you to session with them or try to get you to schedule an appointment with them for later that day or the next day. A word of caution if you schedule an appointment with a girl and don't keep it you are still obligated to pay the fee. While I had many wonderful sessions with the girls I did notice a tendency for many of them to be very professional in service, there seemed to be a certain amount of bad acting in the bedroom fake mooning and even a tendency to try to rush the session. Also some pressure to get you to buy drinks and see how far and how much they could get from you. There is certain since that this is a job for them and you are just a means to an end. That being said I did have many great sessions with the girls and plan on returning to Black Beards for many years to come. There are two shift of girls the first one arrives around 11 am and the second arrives around 6 pm and leaves by midnight. Things really shut down at midnight, after that time there's nothing there but the crickets. If you want a girl after that time you will have to arrange a TLN before midnight. Every time I did a TLN the girls always left around eight or nine in the morning.
Black Beards is in a gated community I felt very safe walking around outside of Black Beards and even went out a couple of times after dark but didn't go very far. The food at Black Beards is good and you get a good size portion of food. I ate a couple of times at some of the restaurants in the area and some of the small shacks that are on the beach but really did not notice any difference in food price so I started eating exclusively at Black Beards. There is a good group of mongers hanging out there and even if you go alone as I did you will be able to make friends quickly.
Exchanging money, in the Dom. Rep. Things work almost exclusively with Dominican pesos so you will want to exchange your money for pesos. Do not change your money at the airport, they have the worst exchange rates. When at Black Beards you want to exchange your money at Jenney's. Jenney's is a small store that is in the gated community with Black Beards they have the best exchange rate. Black Beards will also exchange your money but at a couple pesos below what Jenney's will give you. You can pick up snacks alcohol and other things at Jenney's as well. I think the policy at Black Beards is if you bring in food or alcohol from outside you have to keep it in your room and you are limited on the amount you can bring in. Jenney's is easy to find from Black Beards once you exit Black Beards go to your right and follow the winding road, you will eventually come to Jenney's. The roads can be a bit confusing at first as they are not laid out on a square grid pattern but seem to wind all around. The place however, is not that large and after walking around a bit you will become familure with it. You can ask your taxi driver when you arrive to stop at Jenney's to exchange money, as I did, before he drops you off at Black Beards.
Black Beards will arrange a taxi pick up for you from the airport for $45 that you pay along with your room fee when you check in; you do not pay the driver directly.
The beach will be to your left once you exit Black Beards, it's fairly close and easy to find, just follow the winding road. The beach is nice, there are some small shacks that sell souvenirs and food. I personally did not venture outside of Black Beards often as I spent so much time fucking. But some of the guys said they seen a few freelancers along the beach. On my few trips to Jenney's, the beach and the restaurants I did notice some attractive locals who lived in the area but I never approached any of them so I don't know if they were available for P4P, but I would tend to think so.
Crystals.
Made it to crystals one night, Taxi fair there and back is somewhat costly If I remember correctly I think it was $20 or more. From my perspective I did not think the women at Crystals were anything better than at Black Beards. It cost $100 USA for in house and I believe it was $140 for TLN take out. I talked with a couple of the girls there, told them what I liked and both of the girls I talked with said they would not do BBBJ so I took a pass at Crystals and never session with any of their girls.
SOSUA.
The cab far from Black Beards to Sosua arranged by Black Beards was $60. There were three of us going as two mongers from Black Beards wanted to check out Sosua. The driver took us to my hotel where I checked in, took us to the beach where I picked up a couple of freelancers. Dropped me and the freelancers off at the New Garden and then took the other two to Passions and then back to Black Beards. I don't know if the price would have been cheaper if the driver was just going to take me to New Garden or not, but $60 is a hell of a lot in my opinion. The cab from the Sosua / New Garden, to the airport was only $25. There are cabbies outside of New Garden and you can get one of them when you are ready to leave.
New Garden:
Stayed at the New Garden Hotel in the old wing, Had the basic standard room, it was nice, air conditioning, a ceiling fan, a safe, I had a good wifi connection, not a bad room. There were a great group of mongers there to meet up with and hang out with and get advice from. Freelancers hanging out by the pool, many in my opinion were in the 6 to 7 to 8 range. I have heard a lot about the noise and the ruckus at New Garden but I really didn't notice it on my stay, it got quiet and vacant at night. I could hear some people talking down by the pool in the morning, I could hear some street noise from the other side of the room and they were even doing some construction so I could hear that as well. But either I am getting used to traveling in these conditions or maybe it was the ceiling fan drowning out most of the noise, my exhaustion or the hot little 22 year old I girlfriend up with sleeping next to me each night and morning. But I did not think the noise was a distraction at all. You can also exchange your money at New Garden, they gave a better rate than Black Beards but not as good a rate as you can get from the bank.
The bank I used was bank Popular, if you exit New Garden turn to your right go down to the corner and turn left the bank will be a few paces down on your right hand side. They gave me the best exchange rate; there is also an ATM machine outside which I used as well.
Sosua is a freelance place; I picked up girls in the street, in the stores, along the main strip of bars, in the bars, walking to passions, at the beach, walking to the bank and even in the bank. I girlfriend up early on this portion of my trip so I did not get to sample as many women as I would of liked, but I was never turned down by any girl I approached. I had no problem getting girls for 1500 for the hour and TLN at least with the first girl I girlfriend up with for 3000. If you exit New Garden and turn to your left go up about two blocks and then turn to your right you will find the main strip of bars. Classicos seems to be the main disco; it is up stars next to a sign that says club 59, there is a cover charge to enter. There are many other bars along the strip with lots of attractive girls so there really is no reason to enter classicos if you don't want to. As I said I girlfriend up on this portion of my vacation so I was not able to approach as many women as I wanted but I was never turned down by any girl I approached at classicos or any of the bars along the strip.
Passions and CMP club are in the opposite direction along the strip. If you exit New Garden go up to the strip and instead of turning to your right U-turn left you will find Passions and CMP club. It is about a five to ten minute walk on your right hand side. There are moto conch guys everywhere who will give you a ride for anywhere from 50 to 100 pesos but I personally never used them and just walked everywhere. You can also find freelancers along this portion as well. I picked up a petite little cup cake Haitian girl once walking back from passions.
Went to Passions twice, the first time was in the middle of the day, the place was a little more rustic than I had imagined but still a nice place. The day time staff was nice but not outstanding. Went back at night and the staff got a lot better, session with a HOT girl for the hour. 2500 pesos, you pay the girl directly and she will grab some towels some condoms and lead you up to the room. The rooms are nice, air conditioning, shower, clean comfortable. The session was great the girl was outstanding in providing service. Stopped into CMP club once in the afternoon and seen the hottest girl I seen on my entire trip, there were also two other very hot girls working there. Prices at CMP I believe are about the same as Passions.
Went to the beach once on my first day in Sosua, lots of souvenir shacks as well as restaurants along the beach with lots of people, some of these souvenir shacks and restaurants can be somewhat pushy in trying to get you to stop and look at their stuff. Saw a good number of freelancers walking around on the beach and even picked up a couple, one for then and one to come back to my room the next day.
I girlfriend up early on this trip which had both positive and negative aspects to it, at times I wanted to get rid of her because there was so much fine pussy around and I did not want to limit myself to just one. But when she was gone I missed her like hell and wanted her back. I personally found, to my surprise, the sessions with the girls in Sosua to be better in general than the sessions I had with the Black Beards girls. Many of the Sosua girls seemed to really get into it and enjoyed the sex as much as I did, and many seemed to want to girlfriend up with me for my trip. Where as with many of the Black Beards girls there was a thinly veiled since that this was just a job and a certain amount of acting on their part. Going down on the girls and getting a BBBJ was standard everywhere on my trip, though the freelancers in Sosua seemed to really get into it and enjoy it more than the Black Beards girls.
On the negative side, I found the weekdays could be very slow in Sosua, there are still a few girls around but not as many as on the weekends even the weekday nights are slower than on the weekends and things start to slow down much earlier on the weekday nights than on the weekends.
Found Rockys restaurant which is a great place to eat. If you exit New Garden and turn to your left walk up a few paces it will be on your left. I eat there mainly as they seemed to have the best prices on food, which was good and plentiful. I plan on staying there on my return trip in August. Rockys seems to have the right business model in my opinion.
My Spanish is extremely limited but I never found lack of Spanish to be a hindrance at any point along my trip. About 90% of the girls spoke less English than I speak Spanish but they all know what you are there for, the language was never a barrier when trying to come to a deal with the girls. There are also enough mongers who speak good Spanish or enough local who have decent English to help out with other things.
Final Thoughts:
I was blown away by the Dom. Rep. I personally prefer it over Costa Rica or Tijuana and will probably make it my main mongering destination from now on. I think both Black Beards and Sosua are great places in their own way and will continue to visit both. The BBBJ in the Jacuzzi the smorgasbord of pussy at Black Beards the girls coming up and grouping you throughout the day. Picking up freelancers everywhere in Sosua and the illusion that you are picking up regular girls not to mention Passions and CMP club. Personally I think Black Beards is the place to be on the weekdays and Sosua is the place to be on the weekends and that is probably how I will structure my trips from now on.
Thanks For Reading.
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Tempoecorto
06-17-12, 17:18
Chris Long in Dominican Republic.
Black Beards: There is a sign and a buzzer that says ring bell for servicing in the Jacuzzi, not servicing of the Jacuzzi but servicing in the Jacuzzi.
The roads can be a bit confusing at first as they are not laid out on a square grid pattern.
ChrisGood job Chris.
I cracked up with those two things you mentioned above. I have no interest in visiting Black Beard and yet I am tempted by the statement "servicing in." Reminded me of some of my Bangkok and jakarta experiences. So if I understood correctly, you just go in, without picking anyone up and just press the buzzer and a babe appears, perhaps even with a bowl of fruit and wine. LOL? NICE!
On the other point, I was absolutely laughing aloud. I live in Boston and the downtown roads are often cobbled, up and down winding ones. They say, they just paved over the horse paths.
On another note, interesting that your and psychman's observations are somewhat different. You endorse wholeheartedly. He with some reservation. Just shows that while we read other's experiences, our own experience will always be a little different.
Manizales911
06-17-12, 17:32
So if I understood correctly, you just go in, without picking anyone up and just press the buzzer and a babe appears, perhaps even with a bowl of fruit and wine. LOL? NICE!That is not quite how it works. You pick a girl and pay her 500 pesos to join you in the jacuzzi. The bell is for ordering drinks.
I remember when the girls didn't charge for going to the jacuzzi, sort of like an interview process. I would still use the service as such though even if it cost 500 pesos, you get a BJ out of the deal, not bad. And if me and the girl hit it off maybe a romp in the sack is in order.
Were I to come again, I would try to be far more social and interview constantly. No Spanish is needed for sex here, but tons of spanish is needed for amazing sex. That, or luck, which is basically how I feel about CR. That is the paradox; both are totally easy venues for guys with no Spanish but the lack of Spanish makes them both hit and miss. It is a paradise for guys who want a 10 minute suck and then pump for 30 and dump. I mean, there probably is no place better in the world if that is your thing.That is the thing. You can go to Sosua not speaking a word of Spanish, and have a great time, but if you decide to come back again and a few weeks have gone by and you still haven't learned some Spanish, then you are really depriving yourself of the opportunity to take it to the next level. The precoital interview is the most important component both to getting good sex and avoiding bad sex.
That is the thing. You can go to Sosua not speaking a word of Spanish, and have a great time, but if you decide to come back again and a few weeks have gone by and you still haven't learned some Spanish, then you are really depriving yourself of the opportunity to take it to the next level. The precoital interview is the most important component both to getting good sex and avoiding bad sex.That was my sense of things for others- I am fluent in Spanish, so my comparisions to other places should be taken with that in mind. I know that for some folks Sosua is the greatest mongering place on earth- I was merely trying to provide my story as a means of helping people decide whether to go, how it might compare to other venues, and perhaps learn from my assessment of what i did well and what I did not do well this trip. it was a great time and a great place for mongering, just not my favorite place. To each his or her own.
Alex Deuce
06-17-12, 18:45
That was my sense of things for others- I am fluent in Spanish, so my comparisions to other places should be taken with that in mind. I know that for some folks Sosua is the greatest mongering place on earth- I was merely trying to provide my story as a means of helping people decide whether to go, how it might compare to other venues, and perhaps learn from my assessment of what i did well and what I did not do well this trip. it was a great time and a great place for mongering, just not my favorite place. To each his or her own.That was an outstanding set of post. It mirrored my adventures in the north. However, the north got boring and I became agitated with fellow mongers not in my immediate circle; as you so encountered. I still swing through the north just to check the pulse and get my mind readjusted to Spanish but it's limited to 48 hours. Now, I'm on a walkabout through the mountains downward. Still have not had a village offer me the lineup of their daughters but I almost did a chicas mom on accident. (Ok, momentary loss of judgment)
Only way to avoid bad sex is to avoid women. Speaking the same language helps but your always going to find women especially in P4P that treat sex as a mechanical requirement of their gender. A precoital interview helps with hookers but is mood killer for non-pros. You might as well start the conversation with "Puta."
Even in true loving relationships you have women who don't enjoy some aspects of sex and are reluctant to explore others. Connections naturally happen regardless if one is an alein. I have seen that mutual stare that is established before either has uttered a word. Its a 2pac thang "Her body talking to me but I can't comprend da meaning." conversation enhanced the attraction; other than that, its akin to a sides menu in a pvussy restaurant. Sports fvcking or actual novia/o your still dealing with women. Just be glad Latinas are more sensual than their counterparts and Duds are few and far between.
Once again, outstanding set of post.
Planning my first DR trip for end of July. The first thing I do always when hitting the ground in Thailand, Philippines and Colombia is to buy a SIM for chica communications. Is there a smilar simple inexpensive SIM / cell phone option in Sosua?
Also- I will be arriving POP about 2pm. Is there a public bus / van that makes runs to Sosua. What is best way to get there. I am not opposed to paying a few extra dollars for safety / security, but I do not necessarily want to pay 4x the going rate having a car waiting for me. Thanks!
Planning my first DR trip for end of July. The first thing I do always when hitting the ground in Thailand, Philippines and Colombia is to buy a SIM for chica communications. Is there a smilar simple inexpensive SIM / cell phone option in Sosua?
Also- I will be arriving POP about 2pm. Is there a public bus / van that makes runs to Sosua. What is best way to get there. I am not opposed to paying a few extra dollars for safety / security, but I do not necessarily want to pay 4x the going rate having a car waiting for me. Thanks!1. Yes you can get a prepaid SIM card at Claro or Orange in Sosua. Fairly cheap. (Must take your passport.)
2. You can get a public taxi or guagua on the highway about 250 yards from the airport for about $1, however tempoecorto is the only person whom I have ever know to do this on a first trip. Airport taxi is $25. That is the going rate. Easy to find a taxi, they will find you. (Believe me, they will.)
Tempoecorto
06-17-12, 19:49
Only way to avoid bad sex is to avoid women. Speaking the same language helps but your always going to find women especially in P4P that treat sex as a mechanical requirement of their gender. A precoital interview helps with hookers but is mood killer for non-pros. You might as well start the conversation with "Puta." Even in true loving relationships you have women who don't enjoy some aspects of sex and are reluctant to explore others. Sports fvcking or actual novia/o your still dealing with women.Pretty profound, Alex Deuce! I am grateful that women do all that they do to please us, not including semen in mouth and in some instances, swallowing. Talk about Anal, I enjoy tickling or a little finger push but wonder how a woman can handle something hard and long coming up. It cannot be fun. Or at least in the beginning.
On another note, given that you go around the "boondocks" and are yet to see people offering you their daughters, I think it is only urban (or more appropriately country) legend! LOL!
Only way to avoid bad sex is to avoid women. Speaking the same language helps but your always going to find women especially in P4P that treat sex as a mechanical requirement of their gender. A precoital interview helps with hookers but is mood killer for non-pros. You might as well start the conversation with "Puta."When I say "precoital interview" I just mean talking to them and getting to know a bit about what makes them tick, before moving on to sex. For example what is your name, how old are you where were you born, do you have any children, boy or girl, what is the child's name, how long have you been here, where are your parents, what is your favorite food, drink, music, blah, blah. If this yields promising results, then consider taking it to the next level. If she suggests "ficky-ficky" at the early stage of the interview at least you know where her head is at, and often the sex will be perfunctory.
Tempoecorto
06-17-12, 20:22
2. You can get a public taxi or guagua on the highway about 250 yards from the airport for about $1, however tempoecorto is the only person whom I have ever know to do this on a first trip. Airport taxi is $25. That is the going rate. Easy to find a taxi, they will find you. (Believe me, they will.)That was because you were kind enough to come pick me up at the airport. Yeah, I would have done it anyway but your presence made life a lot easier. (on a hot summer tropical day, which too I enjoyed) and I am grateful to you for that. It was an interesting experience. And same on my way back. The taxi from Sosua to Puerto plata with a whole bunch of other people did the loop to drop me practically at the airport so I did not have to walk the small tract (like you and I did on my way in) and not a single passenger complained. I could only tell them "soy agradecido" and they all smiled back.
Dominican women are generally good in bed. So good chatting can ease the tention. Having sex with a stranger is tence for the girls. Helping them relax will pay dividends in the bed. I have used sex toys with total strangers. Try that in the US not happening.
When I say "precoital interview" I just mean talking to them and getting to know a bit about what makes them tick, before moving on to sex. For example what is your name, how old are you where were you born, do you have any children, boy or girl, what is the child's name, how long have you been here, where are your parents, what is your favorite food, drink, music, blah, blah. If this yields promising results, then consider taking it to the next level. If she suggests "ficky-ficky" at the early stage of the interview at least you know where her head is at, and often the sex will be perfunctory.
Tempoecorto
06-17-12, 23:30
That is not quite how it works. You pick a girl and pay her 500 pesos to join you in the jacuzzi. The bell is for ordering drinks.
I remember when the girls didn't charge for going to the jacuzzi, sort of like an interview process. I would still use the service as such though even if it cost 500 pesos, you get a BJ out of the deal, not bad. And if me and the girl hit it off maybe a romp in the sack is in order.Ah. Ok. Now it is clear. Thanks!
Charles Pooter
06-18-12, 01:56
Hi everybody, I'm flying to sousa on July5, this is my first time travel to Dominican Republic. I have two weeks vacation. I was just wondering how many days do I need to stay here to fully enjoy the country and woman? Is 7days to short? Thank you for answering the question.Not sure what you mean by "here". You will be two weeks in the DR and you are asking if you ought to spend more than one week in Sosua? Or you have two weeks available and you are asking if you should spend more than one week in the DR?
Many guys regularly fly down for just a long weekend. I was the opposite. Before I moved here permanently I made eight trips averaging one month each. I would have hated to leave so soon. It was bad enough leaving after a month or so.
My thinking was that a big part of my total holiday outlay was on my flight. It made sense therefore to amortize that over more days thus reducing the overheads of my stay per day. Some people like Sosua, some don't, but for a newbie it is probably the safest place to start, and on a first trip you won't get bored after two weeks. You may end up returning to Sosua time after time, like many of our posters, or you may try another town next trip, but it is the right choice first time out as you can easily find new monger friends who will show you the ropes and avoid your wasting money and your precious vacation time.
Your question is a bit vague, which is probably why no-one answered it. If you have more specific queries, ask away.
Sosua is a great place to start. You can do 3chicas a day and not break a sweat. Your biggest problem is that you will run out of leche. I love Sosua and I have been all over the DR. It is only good for sport fucking but it is sport fucking on a Hi level. I could not do a full week in Sosua. It is over whelming.
Not sure what you mean by "here". You will be two weeks in the DR and you are asking if you ought to spend more than one week in Sosua? Or you have two weeks available and you are asking if you should spend more than one week in the DR?
Many guys regularly fly down for just a long weekend. I was the opposite. Before I moved here permanently I made eight trips averaging one month each. I would have hated to leave so soon. It was bad enough leaving after a month or so.
My thinking was that a big part of my total holiday outlay was on my flight. It made sense therefore to amortize that over more days thus reducing the overheads of my stay per day. Some people like Sosua, some don't, but for a newbie it is probably the safest place to start, and on a first trip you won't get bored after two weeks. You may end up returning to Sosua time after time, like many of our posters, or you may try another town next trip, but it is the right choice first time out as you can easily find new monger friends who will show you the ropes and avoid your wasting money and your precious vacation time.
Your question is a bit vague, which is probably why no-one answered it. If you have more specific queries, ask away.
Alex Deuce
06-18-12, 05:02
When I say "precoital interview" I just mean talking to them and getting to know a bit about what makes them tick, before moving on to sex. For example what is your name, how old are you where were you born, do you have any children, boy or girl, what is the child's name, how long have you been here, where are your parents, what is your favorite food, drink, music, blah, blah. If this yields promising results, then consider taking it to the next level. If she suggests "ficky-ficky" at the early stage of the interview at least you know where her head is at, and often the sex will be perfunctory.Gotcha!
I understand exactly what your saying and can't disagree."Game" is still a needed requirement in Mongering. You can sort through the lot of putas with a simple sex list of entrees. You also have to be able to break a biatch down with the who! The skill of running west but heading east is still in high demand. Case in point, Puta with low c-scar; you would be remised not to ask about Niņo's or Nina's. Simple observation and sympathy of their plight goes a long way in establishing a connection and emotional bond.
I wish I can say it's simple but that would be an over implication as I have seen situations in American clubs where professional women have walked up to me and friends and simply said;"I want my pussy ate and finger in ass from the back and we can all leave now" you can think your running game by stating demands of a puta but you have to establish real connections to get all you want. Most think the weed out convo in Brazil o DR is game but it's not. Its ordering ale cart off a ho menu. you gotta be able to get past the outer ho layer and that takes game.
Im tired of reading about these deep novias only to be told by the chicas as i put dick deep in em your a trick they running game on to make it through the week. I also hate being told about how a black or white is this or that in another tricks mind. Some of yall need to leave yall bs at home. The ho ain't the biatch some of yall think. Most got some of everything in them and despise being told a part ain't no good.
You can't understand the above; your reading the words not understanding the lyrics.
Chief Justice
06-18-12, 05:37
Planning my first DR trip for end of July. The first thing I do always when hitting the ground in Thailand, Philippines and Colombia is to buy a SIM for chica communications. Is there a smilar simple inexpensive SIM / cell phone option in Sosua?
Also- I will be arriving POP about 2pm. Is there a public bus / van that makes runs to Sosua. What is best way to get there. I am not opposed to paying a few extra dollars for safety / security, but I do not necessarily want to pay 4x the going rate having a car waiting for me. Thanks!I find it best to bring an unlocked gsm phone then buy sim card and minutes from Claro.
When you come out of the gates at the airport, you will see several cab drivers that will take you to sosua for $20-25 bux. You may want to team up with other dudes and split the fee.
Tempoecorto
06-18-12, 18:07
I'm tired of reading about these deep novias only to be told by the chicas as I put dick deep in them your a trick they running game on to make it through the week. I also hate being told about how a black or white is this or that in another tricks mind. Some of yall need to leave yall bs at home. The ho ain't the biatch some of yall think. Most got some of everything in them and despise being told a part ain't no good.
You can't understand the above; your reading the words not understanding the lyrics.The last but one paragraph. It all flew above my head. You need to translate that in English bro! LOL.
LoveFiveStar
06-18-12, 20:57
Hi everybody, I'm flying to sousa on July5, this is my first time travel to Dominican Republic. I have two weeks vacation. I was just wondering how many days do I need to stay here to fully enjoy the country and woman? Is 7days to short? Thank you for answering the question.7 days in Sosua is not to long if its your first time. It may take you a day or two to get adjusted, feel out the game that is going on. As psych said the chicas tend to be aggressive, it took me a couple days to make it past the first chica who approached on my first trip. Within a few days I figured the hustle that was going. Beware the middle of the week can be a bore as many times there's not much going during the day. I don't mind as I'm usually out looking for pussy during the day, and there's always plenty of that going on.
Enjoy your trip, you can't go wrong.
UrbanGuest
06-19-12, 01:21
7 days in Sosua is not to long if its your first time. It may take you a day or two to get adjusted, feel out the game that is going on. As psych said the chicas tend to be aggressive, it took me a couple days to make it past the first chica who approached on my first trip. Within a few days I figured the hustle that was going. Beware the middle of the week can be a bore as many times there's not much going during the day. I don't mind as I'm usually out looking for pussy during the day, and there's always plenty of that going on.
Enjoy your trip, you can't go wrong.I would also say don't be afraid to get out of Sosua and see some of the rest of the country. The island is too large to see in such a short time but you can venture a few kms to the east and hang out on the beach in Cabarete or go west and take a walking tour of central Puerto Plata or have a drink on the Mallecon, there's plenty to do on the north coast if you don't mind being a little adventurous and you'll be surprised at the amount of abundant and cheap play thats available to you outside of Sosua.
Alex Deuce
06-19-12, 02:48
The last but one paragraph. It all flew above my head. You need to translate that in English bro! LOL.Naw, I was dreaming when I wrote it!
I will be in Sosua for 2 days (June 20. 22) and would like someone to chill with and show me around.
7 days in Sosua is not to long if its your first time. It may take you a day or two to get adjusted, feel out the game that is going on. As psych said the chicas tend to be aggressive, it took me a couple days to make it past the first chica who approached on my first trip. Within a few days I figured the hustle that was going. Beware the middle of the week can be a bore as many times there's not much going during the day. I don't mind as I'm usually out looking for pussy during the day, and there's always plenty of that going on.
Enjoy your trip, you can't go wrong.I suggest you to rent a car and drive west to Playa Rio San Juan. It is about 45 min drive from Cabarete. It is a very beautiful beach and is not crowded during weekdays. Once you get there tell one of the food vendors to set a table and chairs for you in the beach. Once we settled down on our table we were offered fresh parrot fish, shrimp, and lobster for lunch. They brought them (raw) to our table for us to check them out and choose what we wanted to be cooked. We went for the fried parrot fish, it was absolutely delicious. We were also offered raw oysters. We tried a few just with lime juice (no tabasco o horseradish crap.) and they were absolutely outsstanding. Of course, all that was washed down with cold Presidente beers.
Charles Pooter
06-19-12, 16:21
I will be in Sosua for 2 days (June 20. 22) and would like someone to chill with and show me around.Go to Rocky's Bar for breakfast around 11. 30am and ask Rick, the manager, to introduce you to one or two experienced and reliable mongers.
Gotcha!
I understand exactly what your saying and can't disagree."Game" is still a needed requirement in Mongering. You can sort through the lot of putas with a simple sex list of entrees. You also have to be able to break a biatch down with the who! The skill of running west but heading east is still in high demand. Case in point, Puta with low see-scar; you would be remised not to ask about Niņo's or Nina's. Simple observation and sympathy of their plight goes a long way in establishing a connection and emotional bond.
I wish I can say it's simple but that would be an over implication as I have seen situations in American clubs where professional women have walked up to me and friends and simply said;"I want my pussy ate and finger in ass from the back and we can all leave now" you can think your running game by stating demands of a puta but you have to establish real connections to get all you want. Most think the weed out convo in Brazil o DR is game but it's not. Its ordering ale cart off a ho menu. You got to be able to get past the outer ho layer and that takes game.
I'm tired of reading about these deep novias only to be told by the chicas as I put dick deep in them your a trick they running game on to make it through the week. I also hate being told about how a black or white is this or that in another tricks mind. Some of yall need to leave yall bs at home. The ho ain't the biatch some of yall think. Most got some of everything in them and despise being told a part ain't no good.
You can't understand the above; your reading the words not understanding the lyrics.Just one thing to say to the above,"word!"
That was an outstanding set of post. It mirrored my adventures in the north. However, the north got boring and I became agitated with fellow mongers not in my immediate circle; as you so encountered. I still swing through the north just to check the pulse and get my mind readjusted to Spanish but it's limited to 48 hours. Now, I'm on a walkabout through the mountains downward. Still have not had a village offer me the lineup of their daughters but I almost did a chicas mom on accident. (Ok, momentary loss of judgment)
Only way to avoid bad sex is to avoid women. Speaking the same language helps but your always going to find women especially in P4P that treat sex as a mechanical requirement of their gender. A precoital interview helps with hookers but is mood killer for non-pros. You might as well start the conversation with "Puta."
Even in true loving relationships you have women who don't enjoy some aspects of sex and are reluctant to explore others. Connections naturally happen regardless if one is an alein. I have seen that mutual stare that is established before either has uttered a word. Its a 2pac thang "Her body talking to me but I can't comprend the meaning." conversation enhanced the attraction; other than that, its akin to a sides menu in a pvussy restaurant. Sports fvcking or actual novia / o your still dealing with women. Just be glad Latinas are more sensual than their counterparts and Duds are few and far between.
R.
Once again, outstanding set of post."Sports fvcking!", I say we contact the IOC and demand entry into the summer games, we can hold the trials right
There in Sousa!
I just book my flight from BOS-POP cost me only $462 round trip. If you from Boston you want to go to sosua on September you should go on www.Orbitz.com I just pay $462 for my ticket from September 14-23.
DeepMmpactt
06-20-12, 00:25
Naw, I was dreaming when I wrote it!Alex, I took a trip to EROTIC CITY, I was driving a LITTLE RED. CORVETT.
Naw, I was dreaming when I wrote it!Alex Duece I took a trip to EROTIC CITY, I was driving a LITTLE RED. CORVETTE, I put the top up cause it started to PURPLE RAIN, I got depressed when I heard DOVES CRY, BUT immediately felt better when I found a puta DARLING NIKKI, I check my calender I was back in 1999. Maybe I'm just too demanding.
Big Ups Alex-Duece-and a QUARTER. Buick Electra 225. You know nuthin about that. LOL!
Alex, I took a trip to EROTIC CITY, I was driving a LITTLE RED. CORVETT.
Alex Duece I took a trip to EROTIC CITY, I was driving a LITTLE RED. CORVETTE, I put the top up cause it started to PURPLE RAIN, I got depressed when I heard DOVES CRY, BUT immediately felt better when I found a puta DARLING NIKKI, I check my calender I was back in 1999. Maybe I'm just too demanding.
Big Ups Alex-Duece-and a QUARTER. Buick Electra 225. You know nuthin about that. LOL!Yo I was always an INTERNAIONAL LOVER. Just my 2cents I'm a big fan
Balls Rawls
06-21-12, 18:03
Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting. Sosua is not that kind of place. Don't get me wrong, I had a lot of fun in Passions and CMP, and if you transported those two establishments someplace else, I would visit. I just don't like the street shit. Examples:
-I've never been anywhere in the world where I didn't know who had taxis, who had pussy, who had T-shirts, and who had anything else within a few hours. No need to advertise.
-If you are advertising a good or service, and you get my attention by hissing at me, there is a zero percent chance I will buy your good or service. There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you, depending on my mood, however.
-If I'm seated, enjoying a beer, meal, conversation, or television program, I'm where I want to be. Don't bother me.
-If I were in the states, and you grabbed me from behind, I would be reaching into the waistband of my pants, and not to pull out my wallet or my cock. I don't want this on vacation.
-Don't advertise by purposely getting in my way whilst I'm walking. It's annoying and stinks of desperation.
I think it boils down to this: some guys genuinely enjoy hanging out with prostitutes. I'm not one of those guys. I enjoy screwing prostitutes, and I enjoy hanging out with regular people. Sosua is no place for such a guy. I didn't meet a single "regular person" local in the DR. Everybody had an angle. I'm not saying that nobody should go, but I prefer Guatemala City or San Salvador, where I can go to an establishment of ill repute, drink a beer, have porn star sex for an hour, drink 2 more beers, have more sex, and then leave and spend the remainder of the evening in the company of normals. The problem with Sosua is that you can never just leave.
I've been to 17 of 20 Latin American countries, and I've never dealt with people so pushy as the DR. If I go back, I'll be going to Santo Domingo.
Just my 2 cents.
-Balls
Ath Trainer
06-22-12, 00:36
I know that many of you will encourage me not to waste extra $ on Passions girls. Until I get there and see / experience for myself, I was wondering if any of you who do frequent the place have any suggestions of certain girls to try? Sometimes, I like shooting fish in a barrel, and the pictures I have seen of Peter's girls look very attractive.
I understand that YMMV, and that people have different likes (Baskin / Robbins has 31 flavors). Who do you like? Thanks!
Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.
SavePros321
06-22-12, 00:45
I know that many of you will encourage me not to waste extra $ on Passions girls. Until I get there and see / experience for myself, I was wondering if any of you who do frequent the place have any suggestions of certain girls to try? Sometimes, I like shooting fish in a barrel, and the pictures I have seen of Peter's girls look very attractive.
I understand that YMMV, and that people have different likes (Baskin / Robbins has 31 flavors). Who do you like? Thanks!I don't think people view it as a waste of extra money. The conversation as of late about Passions is to make sure you are getting your money's worth, like if you pay for a chica to be with you for toda la noche and she bounces without fulfilling her obligation, then Peter (the owner) needs to know about it ASAP.
Charles Pooter
06-22-12, 01:26
Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.There are a million of them (chicas, not sites, I mean). How are you going to know they are non-pros? And why does that matter to you? In fact 95% will be pros or semi-pros.
My friend's live-in partner was a pro and use to get over a thousand contacts a month so I wouldn't invest too much of your time on it.
Not sure how much genuine info you can collect online. My advice would be to hang round the trendier bars in Puerto Plata and pick up girls "in the flesh". You can get a better sense of what you are getting for your money. If you do the same in Sosua you will find only putas. There are semi-pros there but they are best picked up in the side streets on their way to and from work. Pto Pta is better for non-pros and semi-pros, though.
You won't get in a non-pro's knickers on a short trip unless you have got something going for you. What have you got?
SavePros321
06-22-12, 01:32
Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting. Sosua is not that kind of place.Not trying to bust your Balls, but here we have a little saying: RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I think you would have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you spent some time reading up on Sosua before you decided to visit.
A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating.
For the same reason you found "street prostitution" to be irritating happens to be the main draw of the place for 99.9% of the guys who go to Sosua.
Charles Pooter
06-22-12, 01:47
I sort of agree with Balls Rawls and it is why in five years of visiting the North Coast and two years of living here I visit Sosua increasingly rarely and have never passed the night there once in that time. It attracts trash from all over the island.
But on the other hand, on my occasional visits there, always to meet up with specific friends, I usually enjoy myself. I am a frail old guy of 72 but I soon learned to "manage" the street-life so it did not annoy, or even less threaten, me, so there is no reason why a more agile, younger guy cannot do the same. As ever, you get back what you put in. If you are thin-skinned or short-tempered you won't enjoy yourself as much as someone who is laid back and takes people as he finds them.
Balls Rawls
06-22-12, 01:56
Not trying to bust your Balls, but here we have a little saying: RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I think you would have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you spent some time reading up on Sosua before you decided to visit.Oh, I kind of new what I was getting into. I was on the island for other reasons and just swung by Sosua. And it's not like I had a bad time, even if it wasn't exactly my style. Beats staying home. The prices are good, the beach is nice, it seems like a fairly safe place, and I met a lot of cool people who were also visiting.
For the same reason you found "street prostitution" to be irritating happens to be the main draw of the place for 99.9% of the guys who go to Sosua.Yup, and I understand that. Everyone is different. Obviously, a lot of people like the place, and that just fine. I'm not going to buy a house there though.
I enjoy screwing prostitutes, and I enjoy hanging out with regular people. Sosua is no place for such a guy. I didn't meet a single "regular person" local in the DR. Everybody had an angle. I'm not saying that nobody should go, but I prefer Guatemala City or San Salvador, where I can go to an establishment of ill repute, drink a beer, have porn star sex for an hour, drink 2 more beers, have more sex, and then leave and spend the remainder of the evening in the company of normals.Probably best to take the wife and the in-laws along for the company.
You go to Sosua top fuck and party. There is lot of DR to all the other things. Sosua has pussy enjoyand then go some where to socialize. [
QUOTE=Frannie; 1295863]Probably best to take the wife and the in-laws along for the company.[/QUOTE]
Terrible thing pretty young women asking you to fuck them for 40 bucks. It is a night mare please do not wake me up.
Not trying to bust your Balls, but here we have a little saying: RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I think you would have saved yourself a lot of time and money had you spent some time reading up on Sosua before you decided to visit.
For the same reason you found "street prostitution" to be irritating happens to be the main draw of the place for 99. 9% of the guys who go to Sosua.
Don Antonio
06-22-12, 04:13
Almost got into a physical altercation w / a fucking, dumb-ass American POS this afternoon at Bar Central.
Have been astutely aware of his presence for several days. He is not easy to ignore (white guy. 50-55 yrs.) as every second word out of his filthy mouth is "fuck" and "shit." And he has an obvious disregard for women in general, and certainly for the women that have to work the streets.
Anyways, this POS was at Bar Central when Euro2012 was broadcast live. Plenty of customers present wanting to watch the live video. He takes a call and basically hi-jacks the place as his personal office space for 20 min. Other patrons complain to him in German as to whether he maybe could tone it down so that they could also listen to the audio commentary. His response: "This is a LD call."
At that point of time, I basically translated the customers' concerns very clearly into AE. He stormed out and threatened me from 50 yards away. What a piece of human garbage!
This is for anyone who thinks that only the chicas have 'tudes!
This is an interesting topic what do you do if a chick steals from you. How should you feel about it? I was in Rio a few years back. I met this hot little chick in Help and ended spending a day with her. On the first night after I bang her and take a shower I said let's go get something to eat but when I reach in my pants I notice that about 1, 500 in pesos are missing. You know how you look around the room thinking you are going crazy and maybe put it somewhere by mistake. Anyway, the chick is just sitting there looking at me going crazy. So, I let it go and we go out and get drinks, but my radar is up because I do not want to accuse her. Come back to the apartment have another great session and my radar is down and everything seems cool. I go to take a shower I get in but I get out quickly to get my proactive face wash out my bag. As I walk out the shower, this girl I am with is butt naked on her knees going through my pants pocket with my wallet in her hand. I wanted to kill her ass, but I knew I was in a foreign country and would be in jail if I touched her.
My point is I grew up poor, but I knew right from wrong where I am from you steal from someone it could be fatal. It just never feels good for me when someone steals from me. I hate that I have to watch someone because they might take from me. I would rather just kick them to the curb. That is why I am never cheap with a girl because I do not want any excuse for her to feel that she should steal from me to make up for me being cheap.When I go on vacation anywhere in the world and bring a puta back to my room: I make sure my wallet is locked in a safe. If there is no safe, then I bring my wallet with me whenever I go to the bathroom. Sad that you fell for this twice.
I know that many of you will encourage me not to waste extra $ on Passions girls. Until I get there and see / experience for myself, I was wondering if any of you who do frequent the place have any suggestions of certain girls to try? Sometimes, I like shooting fish in a barrel, and the pictures I have seen of Peter's girls look very attractive.
I understand that YMMV, and that people have different likes (Baskin / Robbins has 31 flavors). Who do you like? Thanks!There is nothing wrong with the Passion girls, many are quite beautiful. I never hooked up with any of them, but then again I'm not that pickey, so I play the beach and the street.
By all means, explore all that Sosua has to offer. I've always had a great time and explored all the different venues; you might want to do the same.
Tempoecorto
06-22-12, 06:32
I've been to 17 of 20 Latin American countries, and I've never dealt with people so pushy as the DR. If I go back, I'll be going to Santo Domingo.
Just my 2 cents.
-BallsHmm. The very first time I went to Sosua, I spent a week; never noticed anyone bothering me AT ALL. I spoke to others if I needed to but no one bothered me. Same the second time. I stayed 3 days. I am a dark skinned guy which may have kept the soliciting crowd at bay while they try to pounce on the white skinned guys. Entirely possible but in my short experience, it never was as dramatic as I read here. A firm "no, thank you" was more than enough.
Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting.Oh Balls, you are breaking all of our Balls that love the place.
Too many hookers? And this is a bad thing?
Women hissing at you? You are a grown man, blow it the fuck off. Have you ever been to Soi 6 in Pattaya or Whisper alley in Okinawa? Sosua is quite tame compared to many places.
Street prostitution is fucking irritating? To who, experienced mongers or to newbes that fail to RTFF?
You want to drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace? Stay the fuck at home! That shit is boring!
"There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you." Good luck on that one. I would love to introduce you to Patricia, who would slice you up just for fun!
San Salvador? I just came from there, I liked the place, but it is too spread out and more on a business model; no big deal.
Bottom line: One less monger in Sosua is great for the rest of us. It might be better for you to stay home, watch Sports Center, and jack off to internet porn. But personally, I find your trip report completely useless; thanks for trying nevertheless.
Just my 3 cents,
No Balls
Well, I headed down a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't have a bad time per se, but I'm just not sure I'll be back. The reason is, there are too many hookers. A lot of towns around the world don't allow street prostitution, and now I know why. It has nothing to do with morality, it's because street prostitution is fucking irritating. I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting. Sosua is not that kind of place. Don't get me wrong, I had a lot of fun in Passions and CMP, and if you transported those two establishments someplace else, I would visit. I just don't like the street shit. Examples:
-I've never been anywhere in the world where I didn't know who had taxis, who had pussy, who had T-shirts, and who had anything else within a few hours. No need to advertise.
-If you are advertising a good or service, and you get my attention by hissing at me, there is a zero percent chance I will buy your good or service. There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you, depending on my mood, however.
-If I'm seated, enjoying a beer, meal, conversation, or television program, I'm where I want to be. Don't bother me.
-If I were in the states, and you grabbed me from behind, I would be reaching into the waistband of my pants, and not to pull out my wallet or my cock. I don't want this on vacation.
-Don't advertise by purposely getting in my way whilst I'm walking. It's annoying and stinks of desperation.
I think it boils down to this: some guys genuinely enjoy hanging out with prostitutes. I'm not one of those guys. I enjoy screwing prostitutes, and I enjoy hanging out with regular people. Sosua is no place for such a guy. I didn't meet a single "regular person" local in the DR. Everybody had an angle. I'm not saying that nobody should go, but I prefer Guatemala City or San Salvador, where I can go to an establishment of ill repute, drink a beer, have porn star sex for an hour, drink 2 more beers, have more sex, and then leave and spend the remainder of the evening in the company of normals. The problem with Sosua is that you can never just leave.
I've been to 17 of 20 Latin American countries, and I've never dealt with people so pushy as the DR. If I go back, I'll be going to Santo Domingo.
Just my 2 cents.
-BallsSeriously, is this some type of joke? Are you for real? Did you really go to Sousa or are you someone with a different agenda then this board? Quote " I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting." Save yourself alot of time and try a sports bar. You just described any sports bar in America.
Balls Rawls
06-22-12, 10:00
Seriously, is this some type of joke? Are you for real? Did you really go to Sousa or are you someone with a different agenda then this board? Quote " I want a place where a man can drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace, without an endless parade of putas interrupting." Save yourself alot of time and try a sports bar. You just described any sports bar in America.Wow, I don't understand all the animosity. I thought this board was just guys shooting the breeze about different places they have been and offering up opinions. I just found Sosua to be a little intense is all. I didn't even say I had a bad time. As I said in a previous post, I was on the island already, and dropped by Sosua. I just didn't find it all that relaxing, which is what I want on a beach vacation.
And really, not wanting to get a sales pitch all the time must mean I have a different agenda than the board? Really? I like women. I also like cars. Does that mean that I should be pleased as punch if 40 car dealers swarm me while I'm out watching the game with some friends?
I really don't get the hate. If I told you I liked football, and you said you watched a football game once, but you prefer baseball, I wouldn't be freaking mad at you about it.
Balls Rawls
06-22-12, 10:08
Oh Balls, you are breaking all of our Balls that love the place.
Too many hookers? And this is a bad thing?
Women hissing at you? You are a grown man, blow it the fuck off. Have you ever been to Soi 6 in Pattaya or Whisper alley in Okinawa? Sosua is quite tame compared to many places.
Street prostitution is fucking irritating? To who, experienced mongers or to newbes that fail to RTFF?
You want to drink a beer, watch sports center, and chat with his friends in peace? Stay the fuck at home! That shit is boring!
"There is a greater than zero percent chance I will smack the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you." Good luck on that one. I would love to introduce you to Patricia, who would slice you up just for fun!
San Salvador? I just came from there, I liked the place, but it is too spread out and more on a business model; no big deal.
Bottom line: One less monger in Sosua is great for the rest of us. It might be better for you to stay home, watch Sports Center, and jack off to internet porn. But personally, I find your trip report completely useless; thanks for trying nevertheless.
Just my 3 cents,
No BallsAgain, not getting the hate, but anyway, yes I am a grown man and I can tolerate people hissing at me. I can also tolerate very cold weather, but that doesn't mean I want to deal with it on vacation.
Look, I didn't tell anyone not to go to Sosua, and didn't suggest we burn it to the ground. I just said I didn't like it as much as some other places I've been. I didn't mean to start a big fight, I just thought I'd offer a counter-opinion on the forum, which maybe isn't cool. Different people like different things, I think we have to agree on that.
Would someone in the know post the prices charged by Passions and CMP for both one hour short-tiime onsite vs TNL take out. It would also be nice to know what the chicas % is of this fee to better figure what an appropriate tip is if one is given. On the subject of tips at these two places- do any of the the Passions / CMP regular customers on this forum know if a standard tip is expected?
Thank you!
Hillbilly69
06-22-12, 11:35
Oh, I kind of new what I was getting into. I was on the island for other reasons and just swung by Sosua. And it's not like I had a bad time, even if it wasn't exactly my style. Beats staying home. The prices are good, the beach is nice, it seems like a fairly safe place, and I met a lot of cool people who were also visiting.
Yup, and I understand that. Everyone is different. Obviously, a lot of people like the place, and that just fine. I'm not going to buy a house there though.Good report, but honestly if the girls were better looking would you be back?
Oldkool figure out them fucking brackets on your quotes!
Hmm. The very first time I went to Sosua, I spent a week; never noticed anyone bothering me AT ALL. I spoke to others if I needed to but no one bothered me. Same the second time. I stayed 3 days. I am a dark skinned guy which may have kept the soliciting crowd at bay while they try to pounce on the white skinned guys. Entirely possible but in my short experience, it never was as dramatic as I read here. A firm "no, thank you" was more than enough.People really do have different tolerances. Every so often you read reports from DR vacationers on non-mongering boards who report that their whole vacation was RUINED because of people soliciting them on the streets to buy things.
Now I have been to the DR numerous times and to me occasionally these things are a minor irritation, but never to the point that I even give it a second thought after the fact.
However, the author does suggest that in the US he carries a gun or knife concealed in his pants in case someone touches him, so possibly he is a bit paranoid at the best of times.
Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.If I were you I would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. I just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what I call a social experiment on DominicanCupid. I found it quite amusing and enlightening. My conclusion is. These girls are VERY GOOD con artists. Or at least the majority of them are.
I created a profile. Posted some pics. I am not a bad looking guy, but definitely no Brad Pitt. In the first few days I ended up with a shitload of women being interested in me. But I want to talk about a particular one.
A few days ago a girl with no profile photo emailed me on Cupid. Told me she was interested in me and left a email address saying if I wanted to see her to contact her. I did, and she was smoking hot. Late 20's, latina, tight little body on he. Got a hard on just looking at her.
We started talking a bit. I speak broken spanish. But used Google translate. And I understand quite a bit so communication was not a problem. After about 2 days she told me she loved me (bullshit off course). I played along. Told her I want to meet her when I come in August. The next day she calls me on msn. She is in her bathtub and posed for me (which non-pro, decent dominican girl from a good family will do that?). Then she said she is sad to say goodbye. I asked why she wants to say good bye. LOL. She said her internet is getting disconnected. I wanted to see how this plays out. I told her I can send her a bit of money for internet (I was under no impression she was for real. Like I said this was a social experiment). She said no she can't accept it. So I said ok.
Next day I get a text on my phone (gave her my cell phone # to make the impression I was suckered in). It says "papi. My mom says I need to pay the internet. Send the money".
At this point I was laughing. But I played along. This girl was GOOD. I sent her a little money the next day. Understand me. I was under no impresion she was being real, I decided to invest a little money in my experiment to see it through.
Next day, I see she has 16 new male friends on her MSN profie. I confront her about this. She gets mad and said they were friends from before. I acted hurt and deleted her. She kept barraging my msn for 4 solid hours, telling me how much she loves me. How I hurt her, and so on. I refriended her and started talking with her again. At this point she almost had me fooled. But I still looked at it with a grain of salt.
Next day she texts me saying her mother is very angry at her for accepting money from me. She told me her mom slapped her. Then in the evening, she started to ask me questions about my previous sexual encounters. I asked her why. She said her father wanted to know. I told het it is not important and asked her if she has a problem with the fact that I was sexually active in the past. She said yes. At this point I played into it and acted like I was offended. This resulted in a fight. I ended up deleting her again and told her I will go to sosua and fuck all the working girls there. Next day I sent her a message saying it is over between us. And apologized for my "bad words". Then I was back on cupid talking to all sorts of women. At this point I thaught it was over. Well. I was wrong.
2 days later I started talking to another woman on Cupid. And she started to ask me questions about other women I met there. She was persistent, and I had a feeling. So I told her I met someone special a few days ago but it didn't work. Next thing you know she tells me she loves me and it turns out it was the same chica I was talking to before. LOL.
She said stuff like. I want to be the mother of your children, and other similar stuff. She is VERY good at faking tears and affection. I played along and refriended her on msn for the second time.
Next 2 days we were just talking, but she would disconnect in the middle of convversation and not come back for a few hours or at all. I played hurt and asked her why she doesn't want to talk with me and so on. She said it was her internet and that she is tired from studying.
About 2 days later. She starts talking about some exam she needs to write. She claimed to be a doctor and wanted to move and work in the US. She said the exam is $1000, but her mom will pay for it. Then yesterday I get a text on my phone and an email:
"mi madre me dio 700 dolares. Creo que en verdad me los devolvio por que cuando yo trabaje. Le ayudaba mucho. El examen es en 15 dias pero tengo que pagarlo en lunes para no quedarme afuera se septiempre. Estoy un poco desconsertada."
On the phone she told me her mom gave her 700. 00$. I saw where this was going so I played stupid. I replied."that was nice of your mom". Knowing well what was coming next.
She got on msn and was complaining about this situation, and before she could ask me I told her I can't help her. To which she replied that she was not asking me for it. I suggested to her that she can come here and stay with me, work for a while and write the exam later (by now I had a hard time keeping a straight face). She replied "Thank, how nice". And Disconnected. As soon as she disconnected she was back on Cupid. I wrote to her on cupid something to the extent that she was already looking for a ne sucker. To which she replied that it was over between us because I always doubt her. LOL.
Sorry for my rambling, but I thought this was an appropriate reply to NavDude's question. This girl appeared very innocent, she faked tears and joy really well and if I wasn't as jaded as I was I would have believed her. 100% professional acting. Very good.
I am willing to bet it is not over yet either.
As far as I am concerned it was a good investment on my part sending her a little money. I got a good insight into the character and motivation of these girls.
The lesson to be learned here is that use Cupid only to line up chicas for a GFE. Never fall in love or try to seek a serious relationship. 99% are pro's.
Anton out.
I am sure this is not over yet
Tried the search option to find online dating sites to find non pro chicas near Puerto Plata and Sosua. I failed can anyone help.. And just to add one thing. Besides the amusement and insight, this episode has been a good way to practice my spanish!
Tempoecorto
06-22-12, 14:26
people really do have different tolerances. every so often you read reports from dr vacationers on non-mongering boards who report that their whole vacation was ruined because of people soliciting them on the streets to buy things.you are right and i also think that my personal background makes a difference. when i lived in eu, the italian beaches were full of these vendors. mostly from africa, both black and arab africa but also some from bangladesh. all "sans papier". they would often be chased by the cops and their goods will be confirep001ed. and then coming from india, where pan-handling is a common sight and even a necessity (oliver twist in the 21st century) , i have perhaps a thicker skin so it is relatively easy for me to say "no". perhaps because of my provenience, it is also just a tad easier to empathize!
nevertheless, you and i walked the main drag several times in sosua. i never found it even minimally invasive but then i did not live my life on the main drag either. i remember fondly sitting at the entry of the hotel and shooting the breeze (andre', jean luc, the young dutch lad, daniele and others) in 4-5 languages. ah, the bonhomie with chilled beer and watching people walk by.
as tomjackin reminded me, bangkok can be a nuisance. all women want a "drink" the moment you step inside a patpong bar. yet it was also fun. i remember being accosted by 5-6 women, two on the sides, my hands on them, one on top of me feeding me her nipple and couple on the floor, trying to open my zipper. ah, the good times of youth! i do not want to offend anyone, but many young people these days kill themselves to go to such "heaven"!
i have known people from the military, who like to sit/stand with their back to the wall only...they do not like too many people around them and for understandable reasons. the contributor in question here is speaking of going to santo next time. i read boca chica is downright scary. ah, well.
I know that many of you will encourage me not to waste extra $ on Passions girls. Until I get there and see / experience for myself, I was wondering if any of you who do frequent the place have any suggestions of certain girls to try? Sometimes, I like shooting fish in a barrel, and the pictures I have seen of Peter's girls look very attractive.
I understand that YMMV, and that people have different likes (Baskin / Robbins has 31 flavors). Who do you like? Thanks!Lulu is a light skined girl working at Passions. She is a squirter and is a great performer. She is cool with cim, cof.
Francesa dark skinned girl good for threesomes, good oral skills.
Penelope has a killer body and also good oral skills.
At Passions there are no massages available which means your cheapest option will be the 1 hour inhouse service for 2500 pesos 70-75 dollars.
Would someone in the know post the prices charged by Passions and CMP for both one hour short-tiime onsite vs TNL take out. It would also be nice to know what the chicas % is of this fee to better figure what an appropriate tip is if one is given. On the subject of tips at these two places- do any of the the Passions / CMP regular customers on this forum know if a standard tip is expected?
Thank you!At Passions 1 hour inhouse service is going to cost you 2500 pesos 70-75 dollars. 1500pesos are for the girl. 1000 for the house. Concering take out fees at Passions check their webpage, if I recall right at 10pm it is 3500 pesos.
I have never been to CMP
I have two cupid chica who are both awesome. One works at a hospital for slave wages and has the sweetest pussy I every had loves when I dty. The other use to be a por in is awesome in the sack. In her thirties so I think retired. Sure the girls have game. However you never know. You want sex they want money happy meeting. Cupid is a awesome way to meet women. I love it.
If I were you I would stay clear of these sites if you are looking for a non-pro. I just spent the last 2 weeks conducting what I call a social experiment on DominicanCupid. I found it quite amusing and enlightening. My conclusion is. These girls are VERY GOOD con artists. Or at least the majority of them are.
I created a profile. Posted some pics. I am not a bad looking guy, but definitely no Brad Pitt. In the first few days I ended up with a shitload of women being interested in me. But I want to talk about a particular one.
A few days ago a girl with no profile photo emailed me on Cupid. Told me she was interested in me and left a email address saying if I wanted to see her to contact her. I did, and she was smoking hot. Late 20's, latina, tight little body on he. Got a hard on just looking at her.
We started talking a bit. I speak broken spanish. But used Google translate. And I understand quite a bit so communication was not a problem. After about 2 days she told me she loved me (bullshit off course). I played along. Told her I want to meet her when I come in August. The next day she calls me on msn. She is in her bathtub and posed for me (which non-pro, decent dominican girl from a good family will do that?). Then she said she is sad to say goodbye. I asked why she wants to say good bye. LOL. She said her internet is getting disconnected. I wanted to see how this plays out. I told her I can send her a bit of money for internet (I was under no impression she was for real. Like I said this was a social experiment). She said no she can't accept it. So I said ok.
Next day I get a text on my phone (gave her my cell phone # to make the impression I was suckered in). It says "papi. My mom says I need to pay the internet. Send the money".
At this point I was laughing. But I played along. This girl was GOOD. I sent her a little money the next day. Understand me. I was under no impresion she was being real, I decided to invest a little money in my experiment to see it through.
Next day, I see she has 16 new male friends on her MSN profie. I confront her about this. She gets mad and said they were friends from before. I acted hurt and deleted her. She kept barraging my msn for 4 solid hours, telling me how much she loves me. How I hurt her, and so on. I refriended her and started talking with her again. At this point she almost had me fooled. But I still looked at it with a grain of salt.
Next day she texts me saying her mother is very angry at her for accepting money from me. She told me her mom slapped her. Then in the evening, she started to ask me questions about my previous sexual encounters. I asked her why. She said her father wanted to know. I told het it is not important and asked her if she has a problem with the fact that I was sexually active in the past. She said yes. At this point I played into it and acted like I was offended. This resulted in a fight. I ended up deleting her again and told her I will go to sosua and fuck all the working girls there. Next day I sent her a message saying it is over between us. And apologized for my "bad words". Then I was back on cupid talking to all sorts of women. At this point I thaught it was over. Well. I was wrong.
2 days later I started talking to another woman on Cupid. And she started to ask me questions about other women I met there. She was persistent, and I had a feeling. So I told her I met someone special a few days ago but it didn't work. Next thing you know she tells me she loves me and it turns out it was the same chica I was talking to before. LOL.
She said stuff like. I want to be the mother of your children, and other similar stuff. She is VERY good at faking tears and affection. I played along and refriended her on msn for the second time.
Next 2 days we were just talking, but she would disconnect in the middle of convversation and not come back for a few hours or at all. I played hurt and asked her why she doesn't want to talk with me and so on. She said it was her internet and that she is tired from studying.
About 2 days later. She starts talking about some exam she needs to write. She claimed to be a doctor and wanted to move and work in the US. She said the exam is $1000, but her mom will pay for it. Then yesterday I get a text on my phone and an email:
"mi madre me dio 700 dolares. Creo que en verdad me los devolvio por que cuando yo trabaje. Le ayudaba mucho. El examen es en 15 dias pero tengo que pagarlo en lunes para no quedarme afuera se septiempre. Estoy un poco desconsertada."
On the phone she told me her mom gave her 700. 00$. I saw where this was going so I played stupid. I replied."that was nice of your mom". Knowing well what was coming next.
She got on msn and was complaining about this situation, and before she could ask me I told her I can't help her. To which she replied that she was not asking me for it. I suggested to her that she can come here and stay with me, work for a while and write the exam later (by now I had a hard time keeping a straight face). She replied "Thank, how nice". And Disconnected. As soon as she disconnected she was back on Cupid. I wrote to her on cupid something to the extent that she was already looking for a ne sucker. To which she replied that it was over between us because I always doubt her. LOL.
Sorry for my rambling, but I thought this was an appropriate reply to NavDude's question. This girl appeared very innocent, she faked tears and joy really well and if I wasn't as jaded as I was I would have believed her. 100% professional acting. Very good.
I am willing to bet it is not over yet either.
As far as I am concerned it was a good investment on my part sending her a little money. I got a good insight into the character and motivation of these girls.
The lesson to be learned here is that use Cupid only to line up chicas for a GFE. Never fall in love or try to seek a serious relationship. 99% are pro's.
Anton out.
I am sure this is not over yet
Ok I rarely post here becuase I have never been Sosua, but some have recently posted on the Sousa scene and non pro chicas.
Sosua isn't for everyone and it seems that either you love it or you don't. I will not knock another monger's favorite venue but every monger should feel free to post his personal experience be it good or bad.
Personally I have had terrible luck with dating sites so I don't use them, I mainly meet chicas thru introductions or traveling around. Chicas, both pros and non pros are always hit or miss. You will sometimes find some scam artists, tigueres or just crazy ass chicas. You know what? Ditch her and move on cause a sweet gem can or will be around the corner ready to fulfill your wildest carnal desires
DeepMmpactt
06-23-12, 04:06
Wow, I don't understand all the animosity. I thought this board was just guys shooting the breeze about different places they have been and offering up opinions. I just found Sosua to be a little intense is all. I didn't even say I had a bad time. As I said in a previous post, I was on the island already, and dropped by Sosua. I just didn't find it all that relaxing, which is what I want on a beach vacation.
And really, not wanting to get a sales pitch all the time must mean I have a different agenda than the board? Really? I like women. I also like cars. Does that mean that I should be pleased as punch if 40 car dealers swarm me while I'm out watching the game with some friends?
I really don't get the hate. If I told you I liked football, and you said you watched a football game once, but you prefer baseball, I wouldn't be freaking mad at you about it.Yo, maybe you didn't mean no harm, but re read your post, you talked about smackin people up, pulling out your gat, I guess thats what you meant by, diggin in your pants. Where I'm from, you doing that, they might be carrying YOU out. It seemed like you were coming at us hard, instead of voicing your opinion. Which you are very welcome to voice. Love Peace. And Hair Grease!
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