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SavePros321
07-03-13, 14:02
i wonder. if he would have pulled the police to the side, and negotiated dropping everything, including not paying the chica. would the police have complied? could he have settled with them for less than 11, 000 pesos?doesn't matter. he is lucky he didn't pay even more out the ass for knowingly dealing with an **** chica. he knew that broad wasn't 18. who the fuck just agrees to hop in the back of a police car and go down to the station without at least asking what the charges are?

he chose to stay at an apartment so that he wouldn't have to deal with the "hassle" of having his chica present her id at the front desk of a hotel. he would have paid whatever the police were willing to extort him for to keep from getting banned from entering the dr. didn't want his flow of young dark chocolate haitians cut off (read up on him and his love of dark meat despite the racial slurs)!

notice this dirtbag only shows up to this forum around this time of year when he is on "holiday" (his ****-bear bust was last year around this time!).

John Gault
07-03-13, 15:06
I have mongered all over Latin America for quite a while now. I have never had a problem with being set up by a chica with the police. My only run in ever was in BAQ, and I'll give you a taste of the report I wrote on that occasion.

(After a few blocks I spotted Siglo XX1. This was a club I had heard about but never went into. I told the driver to let me off here and how much do I owe you? He said "no charge if you buy me a beer". So we go in and I liked the place. A little better grade of girls than Banana and the price was 50K for a half hour. I got hooked up with a flaca who gave great table service. Besos, holding hands dancing, etc. I got her number and then asked the taxi driver if he would now take me to my hotel. A couple of blocks more and He stops at Cosmo Blue (I think). I say no because I do not have much money left and want to be able to pay him. He says one beer and then we go. I show him that I have just about enough to pay his fare. He says no problem and we go in. Lousy place and leave after one beer. 4K for beer.

At the hotel he wants 6oK from me. WTF. I tell him no. We go into the hotel and he will not leave. I go to my room and bring 20K but he wants the whole 60K. I now go loco and he backs off. I throw the money at his feet and go to my room. After 5 min. I get a call that the police want to see me.

I tell them the story and also make a point of writing his cab # down. The cops tell me no problem and get rid of this guy.)

So my point is I have been thinking of a return trip to Sosua, but I'm worried about all these reported scams with chicas hooked up with the police. Seems to me most of the incidents reported that it seems the monger was not really out of line. I think if you go to Sosua it would be best to go to Passions or the other hotels where they have girls on site. I think going that route would be much safer than going after the freelancers in the discos. The problem with that is I like the hunt, and staying in the point, and click places are not my style.

Mr Gogo
07-03-13, 15:28
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Wrx2005
07-03-13, 16:11
doesn't matter. he is lucky he didn't pay even more out the ass for knowingly dealing with an **** chica. he knew that broad wasn't 18. who the fuck just agrees to hop in the back of a police car and go down to the station without at least asking what the charges are?

he chose to stay at an apartment so that he wouldn't have to deal with the "hassle" of having his chica present her i'd at the front desk of a hotel. he would have paid whatever the police were willing to extort him for to keep from getting banned from entering the dr. didn't want his flow of young dark chocolate haitians cut off (read up on him and his love of dark meat despite the racial slurs)!

notice this dirtbag only shows up to this forum around this time of year when he is on "holiday" (his ****-bear bust was last year around this time!).i don't really know what he knew. especially if i'm only going by what was in his post. i was just pondering the what ifs, as if it could apply to any monger, not just him. as far as his display on the boards lately. he should be dealt with accordingly.

Mr Gogo
07-03-13, 16:48
Why should I respect someone who shows no respect to others with a different point of view. He blatantly replied to my post in an asinine way. Sorry buddy don't need your advice on how to handle ignorance.When someone doesn't even follow their own advise they should be called out. To pay a girl 500p to sleep without a confrontation, then tell a newbie to make a stand over 200p when the newbie backed out of the deal is wrong. The fact that you don't see your faults lets me know I'm wasting my time on you.

Charles Pooter
07-03-13, 16:59
The best way to avoid this type of scam is to not let those type of girls near you in the first place . If you like a girl then YOU approach HER.Lots of good (and some bad) advice being offered, but for me this says the most in the fewest words. Any chica who approaches me is an immediate no-no.


Seems to me most of the incidents reported that it seems the monger was not really out of line. Maybe not, but the common factor is poor choice of chica (or, worse, letting the chica choose them). And in 80% of cases too much alcohol imbibed. Even relatively small amounts can impair your judgment.


I think if you go to Sosua it would be best to go to Passions or the other hotels where they have girls on site. I think going that route would be much safer than going after the freelancers in the discos. The problem with that is I like the hunt, and staying in the point, and click places are not my style.Most of my friends who are ex-pats or regular visitors monger happily and economically without picking up girls in the discos or visiting the point-and-click places. There are other options in Sosua, and these multiply if you venture outside Sosua.

Frannie
07-03-13, 17:07
I think if you go to Sosua it would be best to go to Passions or the other hotels where they have girls on site. I think going that route would be much safer than going after the freelancers in the discos. The problem with that is I like the hunt, and staying in the point, and click places are not my style.Except see the article I posted in the "General" section. Apparently the attorney general is interested in pursuing organized pimping and recruitment of chicas which might conceivably make places like Passions and CMP a target. Now I am not saying I have any special information, and maybe I am quite mistaken, but it would seem logical. In the present operations law enforcement has said they will arrest customers, but not chicas. It would be just my luck to step into one of these places when they decide to have a bust and it would be very embarrassing to be thrown into a truck nude!

Of course these official statements may be designed just to scare people away and to make it look like the DR is doing something to discourage sex tourism and trafficking. I read a recent report that there was a major raid on a brothel in Trinidad and 72 Dominican women were taken into custody.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-03-10/78-foreigners-arrested-marabella-prostitution-ring

And this is also interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_Dominican_Republic#Why_the_Caribbean. 3F.

Extract:

"The Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act was enacted by the United States in 2000 and was created to establish minimum standards to combat [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) applicable to countries that have significant trafficking problems. The Secretary of State was to provide reports each year about countries that do not follow the minimum standards for eliminating trafficking. Each country is part of a Tier group; 1-3 with 3 being the worst."

"The Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2003 was created much like the VTVPA however it also addressed the top countries to be keeping a close eye on. The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Reauthorization Act of 2008 gave more freedom to monitor and evaluate all assistance given under the previous laws. Other countries were also required to undergo inspections in critical areas where trafficking is most likely."

"Lastly, there also need to be better indicators for [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). Data needs to describe the international population movements and provide governments with a solid basis for policy formulation and implementation. One of the greatest needs is to provide technical and financial assistance to developing countries in order to enable them to collect better migration data."

Buscemi
07-03-13, 17:13
So I set up an facebook account to network with some chica have like 10 friends and I get this random facebook message tonight,"I have advised ICE FBI and local authorities that you are a sex tourist" Anyone here ever see this? Fucking SHAFT is onto me!

ScottAre you using a proxy server to onto this site?

Frannie
07-03-13, 17:15
Most of my friends who are ex-pats or regular visitors monger happily and economically without picking up girls in the discos or visiting the point-and-click places. There are other options in Sosua, and these multiply if you venture outside Sosua.This is very true. Although I believe Mr. Pooter does not speak a lot of Spanish himself, I can hardly overemphasize the benefits that improving your Spanish can have on your sex life. A little Kreyol may help too, but most of the Kreyol speakers also seem to have a knowledge of Spanish greater than my knowledge of Kreyol. However, a little Kreyol is useful as an icebreaker, if nothing else.

Finding a girl you like who can travel all over the island with you on cheap public transport and act as a 24 hour a day personal Spanish language tutor for a relatively modest fee beats the pants off spending your vacation hanging around Pedro Clissante bars for days on end.

Wrx2005
07-03-13, 17:24
So my point is I have been thinking of a return trip to Sosua, but I'm worried about all these reported scams with chicas hooked up with the police. Seems to me most of the incidents reported that it seems the monger was not really out of line. I think if you go to Sosua it would be best to go to Passions or the other hotels where they have girls on site. I think going that route would be much safer than going after the freelancers in the discos. The problem with that is I like the hunt, and staying in the point, and click places are not my style.I like the appearance of hunting too. But I don't have any worries of being caught up in a chica / police scam, causing me to resort to only going to Passions, CMP, FOD, Cristals, BB's. If I ever end up in an unfortunate situation like that, I will surely do whatever I can to extricate myself with the least amount of damage as possible.

Charles Pooter
07-03-13, 17:35
A little Kreyol may help too, but most of the Kreyol speakers also seem to have a knowledge of Spanish greater than my knowledge of Kreyol. However, a little Kreyol is useful as an icebreaker, if nothing else.It is true that my Spanish is shamefully inadequate, but I am disappointed if a Kreyol speaker knows more Spanish than me. It means they have been in the DR long enough to spoil.

You are right that knowing even a few words of Kreyol can warm the cockles of a haitiana's heart. It is so unusual that they are intrigued and flattered that a blan would give them that much respect. My meagre knowledge of Kreyol has led to most of my best sexual experiences on the island.


Finding a girl you like who can travel all over the island with you on cheap public transport and act as a 24 hour a day personal Spanish language tutor for a relatively modest fee beats the pants off spending your vacation hanging around Pedro Clissante bars for days on end.Sounds delightful, but for a newbie without Spanish to try that might be risky or unproductive. When I wrote about "venturing outside Sosua" I didn't mean being that ambitious, just as far as Montellano or Puerto Plata to find chicas in their native habitat without war-paint and glad-rags. Yes, you could still get scammed, but ten times less likely to happen than on the Strip in Sosua.

Charles Pooter
07-03-13, 17:46
I'll talk to my grandfather about that.I understood none of your family were still speaking to you.


. limie perverts.There are very few perverts in limieland. Our boundaries as to what is sexually acceptable are much more generous than in the US which is fucked up by puritanism. The sixties revolution succeeded permanently in the UK. In the US it has largely been reversed.

EddyCarter33
07-03-13, 17:47
day 1.

arrived via miami to pop at 2 pm. it took perhaps 20-30 minutes to obtain tourist card ($10.00) and clear customs. once outside of customs, be prepared to be bombarded with all types of silly offers, you want a beer, cambio, straight bullshit street vendors praying on the moment of you're new into this country, new experiences and hey can i take advantage of this mark. that's how i felt the moment i set foot on this rock and my opinion has not changed yet.

my hotel was voramar, run by a dutchman named henke. good guy and has owned the place for i think twenty years. he left (holland) and never came back. this is a little outside of the gringo glutch but it's quiet and secluded. two motorconcho guys sit under tree just outside of hotel and wait for people to step out (3 minute ride to la passions and the glutch) this hotel appears to cater to germans, austrians and dutchman. outside of myself and the canadian that looks like elvis, we would be the only guys outside of europe at this place so far. he has to make his money as an elvis impersonator, if he's not, needs to change his profession.

typical cab ride to sosua is $25, but mine was only $5 difference from typical ride to center of sosua. my ride was $30 us taxi from puerta plata airport to hotel. can't complain, i was hyped up and on the hunt for some tail.

get to hotel, henke was fair and exchanged some pesso's at 40 per dollar as of today, so much better than airport, which was selling at 34 pesos / dollar.

if you like latina's and chicks with a fat ass, this place is for the booty officianado's. i'm about 6'1 and 245 so not a little man but thus far, i've pulled two spinners with phat little asses out of passions and one aggressive ass chica from cmp.

i walked from hotel to la passions in top siders and no socks, which i don't recommend, trying to find a band-aid in this place is like panning for gold.

made it to passions, order a beer. five to seven chica's get the short straw and draw the day shift. a gringo walks in and all eyes are on you buddy, so enjoy the moment. all of the girls are trying to make eye contact, look for the one you want and smile back or motion over, they will be there shortly. two beers later, i take the plunge and pop my dominican cherry. my first of the day was nicole, from santa domingo. afro caribbean and again on the day shift, i close deal by like 3:30 or 4pm. it was nice, she was gentle but the only negative would be she wanted to do cbj, which can be a deal breaker for many of you. i generally require bbj but i needed the extra time, i got this chica jellin and producing a little wetness. i would have popped much sooner had i not received the cbj service. all around good suction and decent service.

the owner at passions, i believe runs a good business. the girls there know what is expected of them. if they slip up or perform outside of clients expectations, there are 5,000 other chica's coming up that want their spot. i showered and cleaned up, took a stroll down to check out cmp.

cmp appears to be older place, the chica's from what i experienced were way more aggressive here than in passions. an age demographic older, more hardened and mileage on the body was evident with a few. this was the daytime around like 4:30 or 5pm, so slow time for these girls working the day shift (may have been the b team) chomping at the bit, bouncing their ass, whipping their tits out, giving you the peep show of the jj and the whole nine, wanting you to pick them. i order a beer, but they would not stop until you picked one, i really could have picked all four but the fifth one had a pair of man mades and jacked up teeth, so she automatically disqualified.

i chose one, can't remember her name, exotic chick in the face, large titan tetanga's and marginal english. she wanted to session immediately but i wanted to re-charge the battery. they really wouldn't let up, so i thought just your luck chica. you draw a guy who just busted about 30 minutes ago. you want to apply your high pressure sales tactics, guess you have to earn this one honey. i'm not too quick on the trigger, she would have been complaining anyway for the leche but asked for propina after she figured out how hard she had to earn her money. a little cow girl, mish, doggy and finish up with yet another cbj and hj while jiggling the jury to get the judge to drop his load. not sure i'll go back but the curiosity will kill the cat.

ok, on the hunt for a band aid. it was hot and i run into a german just sitting outside of a little market. sipping on a beer and taking a break. i get the blister patched up and off for a little dinner.

i had walked by new garden earlier and went in for a bite. this place always happens to have something going on, so when i had walked by earlier the place was busy. so i thought, let's check the scene now. some little kids birthday party and they must have cleared out all the other chica's and sportsman out of the pool area. anyway, made for a good setting to observe all the street traffic and lady's walking by.

finish dinner, walk back to hotel and i have to overcome my fear of getting on the back of those motorconcho's. those guys are relentless and every single one that drives pass, hit's you up for a ride. i make a joke and say gordo and i need the exercise.

return to room, take a short nap and cool down. need to recharge the battery. my plan was to stop off at passions to check out the evening shift. see the talent in the fish bowl and then head out to dlatins.

passions is a complete time trap, this place is really unbelievable. there just is not enough time in one vacation to do all the chica's any normal person could handle.

i can see the draw of the entire town now, it appears just about every girl is available. some of the daytime street action, i would shy away from, many are extremely young and questionable age range to get caught up. there is just too many other options to consider.

i wish i could have made it to dlatins last night. but i couldn't get passed this beautiful little latina with a cute ass smile and a beautiful ass at la passion's. took kathryn for the evening around 10pm. she was good for two busta's last night and one in the morning. bbbj provider and all around solid performer. again, another good experience and she knows how to deliver. highly recommend this chica if she's still around passion's when you visit. the transient lifestyle many of these chic's live, makes it hard to find the exact one you see or read about. don't worry or stress, another one will be just around the corner, standing in the doorway of a salon and she day's "hola papi".

thoughts.

for me, anymore than three in a day is an excellent day in the life of sosua. it's just too much and i really think after two or three days here, your dick will need some rest at the pace of sosua and the streets. they literally throw the jj at you, and i think whatever your vice and poison you can find it in sosua. i have literally scratched the surface here, but i'm pretty sure i will be back to the dr and sosua.

it's just one of those places, where you can read blog after blog, trip report after trip report. until you pull the trigger, you will never know what's here. you just have to experience it for yourself.

EddyCarter33
07-03-13, 17:49
day 2.

starts. it's 12:15pm and i have yet to survey and explore some of the beach action.

sunday. slow day but busy family day from what i hear at beach. went into town around 12:30pm and sat for lunch at new garden. four chica's at bar and three more rep001tered around. one had a huge ass, i wanted to talk to her but her friend bunny or funny, shiat what ever her name, came over and sat with me while i ate. i bought her a beer and we didn't really vibe all that well. she was nice. average looking and maybe a 6, had a fat tail and nice knockers. you could tell when she got out of the spandex that shit would just rep001ter, so i passed. i gave her the other half of the club sandwich i had because i would have just thrown it away.

strolled by passions and only three working. ton of girls on street trying to hustle but nothing looked too interesting or caught my eye.

took motorconcho back to dr. rosen and sat down to watch the italy and uruguay match on tv. several propositions but only one even worth the time, huge tetanga's but a flat ass by dominican standards. i want a donk on the next few. will return to passions for evening shift and see what awaits.

daytime is slow, so just biding time in room and chatting up the bar girls at hotel.

ok, returned to passions this evening. mucho chica's working, the street girls were hustling there asses off but it was still early. stopped by cmp and same scene, used the bathroom and they literally followed me in there, couldn't finish washing hands before they started the same show as yesterday. bolted and headed for the halloween colored paradise.

walked into passions and same chica katheryn i did todo la noche last night spotted me. she knows i have the wandering eye. she hit me up for a beer and said, ok papi have a good time and gracias. i had started chatting up one the night prior but someone else snagged her before i could pull the trigger. she had a nice donk on her and her stage name is april. spoke with channel and she noticed i was hot and she handed me some napkins to wipe my brow. channel kept at it but i wasn't all that attracted to her at first, until she turned around and walked away. ring ding ding, she had a donk! meanwhile i spotted april from last night when channel went to grab me a cervesa. april and channel wanted to do a doubles session. i initially said no. i wanted both. but i saw a few more i wanted, but had to figure out how to work them all into the schedule over the next couple of days. kind of stupid to play these mind games but really, just too many options here so, you can very easily become extremely picky.

april and channel were in front of me and one went to grab a key. shit i want both, hmmm did the math real quick and for like a little over $100 bucks i can have a duo i couldn't orchestrate back home. i've been trying to orchestrate that the last few months with the girls back home in the rotation but have been unable to pull it off. i thought about it for a half a beer and said, ok. i'll do both. i told them i couldn't handle both of them. however, they went in confident and came out muay consado. i could hear them complaining back and forth to each other in spanish, el diablo this guy better give us propina. too funny.

i'm glad i did snag both, where one failed, the other would step up and deliver. april's head game was real good, channel's head game she used her teeth. (a big time no no). channel's pussy really wet! april's dried up on me half way through. both did bbbj but had to continue changing condoms in middle of session to tackle the pink. i understand the hygienic nature of it all, but it upset the rhythm a little when you wanted to switch off. nuances of never having a duo but you learn real quick. it's just like riding a bike.

good times had for day two. i wanted to tackle three again today but i think i needed some rest. i may head out to dlatins tonight, but it's still a little early. it's 830pm and no more leche, i'm afraid the next one will get one drop. these girls talk.

EddyCarter33
07-03-13, 17:51
Day 3.

The duo must have did me in, cause I ended up falling asleep and didn't wake up until next morning. An early night but I'm on vacation for all you hard core party animals.

A couple guy's from states arrived, older guys and went to play tennis after breakfast. Not bad dudes but can't say I would have them as a wingman. Sometimes it's just easier going solo and marching to your own beat.

I'm thinking of heading to the beach, but after living in the Caribbean for a few years, you just kind of know it's there. I will eventually check the scene here in DR but Rome was not built in a day.

Ended up heading to beach today, real tame on a Monday. The vendors were relentless. Every two steps somebody's trying to sell you something. I ended up sitting where a man and what appeared to be his wife ran a little food joint and the chairs. They were just sitting back minding there own business. I tend to patronize those that I want, not the other way around. The guy's here are a complete show, they really try to hustle the shit out of the tourist. If you're week minded, they'll take advantage of you in a heartbeat. I try to always be polite and say no thank you.

I saw the freelance Titan Tetanga girl from yesterday. I was hopping on motoconcho to head up the hill when she was just arriving to Sosua beach. I may just pay her so I can see them, can't say I have any interest in tagging it. But may just do it, so I can see those twin peaks.

Headed back to hotel, cleaned up. Wanted to check out the day shift at Passions. One girl I've wanted was there, but previously the last two nights, too many other options. Afro Caribbean girl from Santo Domingo. Exotic looking in the face small frame. The name I was given was Natasha. No doubt her stage name. Tight pussy, she had good control of it and tried to clamp down on me. She does CBJ though, which was the only negative. English is mosamenous, I'd recommend her if you can get past the CBJ. She did cum and started flopping around like crazy, which was kinda funny as hell. Never had anyone react that spastic before, ended up knocking a picture off the wall. Another hard worker and satisfied customer.

However, I leave Passions and unconsciously have an exposed beer. I have no idea if it's legal or not. These two Dominican police officers are driving by on motoconcho and stop me, ask if I enjoy passions. I say it's ok and this guy smiles and he has a pair of braces. So you know the age, guy like in his mid 20's or 30's, he has a guy on back with shotgun. Totally trying the intimidation thing, so this guy gives me a little 3rd world shake down. They never pointed the weapon at me, but still a little unnerving. So he starts the I don't have any gas and my police job doesn't pay much. I say,"why is that my problem' sounds like your problem. It's not my problem". I say, do we have a problem here, they say no, no problem. I say good, I turn back around and walk back into Passions. I'm fucking furious. Had to calm the fuck down, my adrenalin was pumping, bunch of fucking 3rd world assholes. They did ask me where I was staying and my dumb ass told them the truth like an idiot. I could 't think of another bull shit hotel to give them fast enough. Just be mentally prepared this shit can happen. Scum of the earth those fucktards.

Head back to hotel and talked with owner, he said it's common to have police shake you down to see if they can get money out of you. He said, generally if you stand your ground they will leave you alone. If you act nervous or intimidated by their BS tactics they will press you a little harder for $.

I personally think if they directly point the weapon at you, you have to think hard on how to handle the situation. Can't offer any advice on that one, but just trust your street instincts and you should be fine. I think those guys are here to just keep some outsiders out and shake down the Chica's, first time I ever had a fucking police officer in another country shake me down. This shit could kill the tourist industry if that stuff get's out. How short minded are these lowlife assholes?

Starving right now, I want a nice dinner but don't want to eat alone. It's early but evening shift at Passions is on. It's 5:30pm. I want to pull one and jamb a nice dinner down her throat. I'll work on jabbing the mini Diablo down her throat later.

Shiat! Probably pulled one of the finest Chica' out of Passions. Fine as hell, her name Milka (stage name). About. 5'9". Right now we are trying to find a taxi to take us to Bailey's. She left me just outside of Passion's with like 5 motorconcho guys just Tripping over themselves. One guy hopped off his motoconcho, walked down street to his POS toyota corola with bald ass tires and whiskey dents all over his ride and expected me to get into this piece of shit car. Probably better to keep us hidden a little, she's totally a head turner. Chica would cause an accident if we were on motorconcho's. I hope she let's me take a few photo's fucking beautiful!

She makes it back, we went into Bailey's and all eyes on the Gringo with the Chica in the hooker shoes and the spandex uniform. Man she fills those out so well.

Of course she orders the most expensive thing on the menu, can't say it looked all that appetizing. It was literally something like $20 for this flatbread looking steak. Appeared to be like a flank steak, believe it or not the filet was less expensive. Literally for like $55 we ate, drank had a good time. Most of us spend that on dinner every night, this Bailey's place would be a middle of the road place back in the states. Conversation was mostly driven by me, she knew a few of the wait staff, so they of course knew the drill. Got us out of there, Milka grabbed the taxi guys card, dumb dumb of course didn't have Cambio for 500 pesos, these broke ass fucks! So of course, he was our taxi back to hotel, I just threw the 500 pesos at the fool to get his cheesy ass smile out of my face. Exchange the cordial buenos noches and back at Hotel.

Room was real cool, you could hear the sigh of relief when she came in. I purposely keep the A / C on to where it's making icicles in the corner. That way she has to come closer if she wants to stay warm. Besides when you work up a sweat, it's nice to have as a temperature regulator.

This Chica really was so beautiful, she's probably so used to guy's blowing their load on her real quick. In between pauses or breaks in the action, she kept checking the condom for the leche. I just needed the rest, three days and seven Chica's takes a toll on little Abner. I don't know how guys knock out ten, must be the conditioning.

She eventually finishes me off with some cowgirl action and it took her a little more effort than she anticipated. She cum twice in less than one hour and you could tell she was tired.

At night she was a little restless, phone receiving texts at all hours and phone calls. You could just sense she was cautious with a stranger in bed. She literally slept with her POS phone in her hand. Can't say that I blame her, the culture here is somewhat predatory.

EddyCarter33
07-03-13, 17:54
Day 4.

Awaken in morning at 7:20am from phone call from Amiga in Santa Domingo. The bella Woke up took and shower, Feke Feke till almost 9am and out the door at about 9:30am. I was ready for her to leave by then and I'm sure she was ready to go home, rang her bell once more in the AM before she left. She was tougher than most to bring to orgasim. I think she felt like orgasim was for her primary Novio. But I guess in the end she needs to have fun as well.

On way to airport, I draw the same goofball taxi man as last night. Fate I guess.

Looking forward to getting back stateside. The DR a great place to visit, but I can only take this place in short durations. Next time, I need to head out into country side and see more of the island and checkout more of the culture outside of the glutch.

Too much of the Gringo glutch, is like cross section of DR humanity, which most likely equates to a trip by a Dominican to the local Walmart in Kentucky.

Observations and Misc.

If you're staying longer than three days, work in a rest day.

Passions by far has some of the best selection, however, you pay a premium for pre screened talent. I'm not sure if anything was stolen, but some stupid shit like a nice scented soap and dental floss. Had they asked, I probably would have given it to them. Perhaps ashamed to ask. I could have easily misplaced the shit too, who knows.

Don't bother going to Blackbeards. I listen to guys that have lived here for 20+ years and they all said unanimously, Passions.

Owner of Passions (Peter) sat down and had a drink with me, decent guy but you can tell he's strictly a businessman. German's do shit with certainty, that's why they make great engineers.

Peter is no exception, I think he runs a fairly strict operation. He wants to hear the good stuff and always, areas he can improve. Well oiled machine, if girls don't make money, they will leave. That's why many are at his place, they make money. People try to replicate his success but they just fail, because the Chica's will eventually leave if they don't make $.

Stats:

I sessioned with seven girls, including a DUO. Breakdown was (3) short time, the DUO (on site) and two todo Le noche. Food, Hotel, transportation to and from airport, around town, snacks, getting screwed at Cambio in Miami airport etc. About $1, 200.

Pulled one out at 10pm. Todo Le noche; Pulled another todo Le noche early around 6pm ish, so if you know the menu, you know the cost. I think I budgeted like $1, 500 for the three days and returning with a little over $300 dollars. I may have only made it down here with $1,200 out of Miami.

I didn't really buy any souvenirs and other bullshit. Just a nice little handmade wooden necklace for like 200 pesos.

Approximately $470 on Chica's. Even dollar cost averaging total damage $67 / Chica. If you want to use a nutt metric it looks better, at $52 / nutt. You can slice it and dice it anyway you want it's still Economical.

About $45 per night at hotel, for three nights was like $135.

Breakfast 250 peso's. Cute as a button Manuela makes a mean breakfast concoction. You could call it an omelette but it comes out scrambled with everything just mixed in.

Lunch and dinner can run about $8-$12 a meal. I took Chica out with me to Bailey's but you can have steak and order up on the solo creep, run you about$30 for decent knife and fork meal.

The ones that got away: Daniela (donk) and Marianna (Beauty) , some tall blonde one with big tits. Never got her name but she always seemed busy when I was there, either coming or going with the sheets, towels or arriving to work. Another one with an incredible body. But a Marney Moose face. Always seemed to be disappointed when I didn't chose her, next time baby. Next time.

Writing most of this report while sitting at airport gate. My plane has finally arrived, Even pilots on Island Time!

Another group of 150 Gringo's to take advantage of are deplaning, the beat goes on in the Republica Dominicana.

Mr Gogo
07-03-13, 18:30
Yo dude thanks for that long detailed report. To bad all the racial talk buried it. Drag it over to the Gogo forum if you want. I'm sure someone other than me will appreciate it. It appears people aren't interested in the beach vendors getting pushed out or tourists getting arrested.

Livelaughfuck took time out to post a long detailed report on his second post, and we ignored him, sorry bro.

Frannie
07-03-13, 18:47
Sounds delightful, but for a newbie without Spanish to try that might be risky or unproductive. When I wrote about "venturing outside Sosua" I didn't mean being that ambitious, just as far as Montellano or Puerto Plata to find chicas in their native habitat without war-paint and glad-rags. Yes, you could still get scammed, but ten times less likely to happen than on the Strip in Sosua.I didn't do this on my first trip, but on subsequent visits I did. Think how much it would cost to hire a language tutor for a week for 16 hours a day of conversation practice!

Frannie
07-03-13, 18:54
There are very few perverts in limieland. Our boundaries as to what is sexually acceptable are much more generous than in the US which is fucked up by puritanism. The sixties revolution succeeded permanently in the UK. In the US it has largely been reversed.You obviously aren't keep up with the news from Blighty re the Savile scandal, the Stuart Hall scandal, the music teacher / pupil suicide scandal, the teacher who eloped with a 15-year-old and is now in prison scandal, the Graham Ovenden scandal, the various other media personalities who have been arrested and charged with terrible offenses like jiggling breasts 35 years ago, the senior Liberal politician scandal, assorted Labour and Tory ministerial sex scandals, and the general tone of discussion in UK news rags these days.

Also the new prostitution law in the UK that makes it a "strict liability" offense to have paid sex with a woman who is "trafficked" regardless of whether the punter knows this or not.

On the other hand the UK does have civil partnerships.

Charles Pooter
07-03-13, 19:06
You obviously aren't keep up with the news from Blighty re the Savile scandal, the Stuart Hall scandal, the music teacher / pupil suicide scandal, the teacher who eloped with a 15-year-old and is now in prison scandal, the Graham Ovenden scandal, the various other media personalities who have been arrested and charged with terrible offenses like jiggling breasts 35 years ago, the senior Liberal politician scandal, assorted Labour and Tory ministerial sex scandals, and the general tone of discussion in UK news rags these days.

Also the new prostitution law in the UK that makes it a "strict liability" offense to have paid sex with a woman who is "trafficked" regardless of whether the punter knows this or not.

On the other hand the UK does have civil partnerships.I am shocked. The country must have gone to the dogs after I left.

MinkyBoodle78
07-03-13, 19:19
are you using a proxy server to onto this site?no because i'm not doing anything illegal. the crime those organizations are interested in fighting is child sex trafficking for sex tourism. being friends with 10 baby momma chicas (most from santo domingo) all clearly 5+ years over the limit is not something i feel the need to hide. the email is not used for anything other that my upcoming trip and the usa government is not interested in any sex lives of an tourist unless **** girls are involved or you break native laws, both things i never planned on. cedula is a must for me, always has been. i wish they would devote more resources to fighting minor sex tourism, that is some really awful shit. i got my passport in the mail this afternoon, the whole thing is a bit absurd is my point.

scott

Zedman99
07-03-13, 19:59
i was prepared to give you a pass on your bs, but you want to get dirty? we can go there. you are the same guy that paid a girl 500p for sleeping, then you try to be a tough guy and tell newbies to make a stand over a 200p deal that the guy backs out of. as you said" she wasnt being confrontational", so she played you without a threat. you have banged her five times before but she still hadn't developed enough respect for you yet. i'm sure she played you the other four times.

you said you and your friends never have had any problems with cops. this shows me you and your friends are amatures and only know one street in sosua, pedro clisante. i drive all over the dr and get pulled over everyday by cops looking for a handout, and i look dominican.

stop giving bad advise because you haven't done anything but get taken advantage of from what i can see. when you pay a girl 500p to sleep, then pout like a little girl thats sad shit.

you and your friends probably stay in your hotel room paying "uno" because all the sosua girls swarm the suckers because they have discovered your group is weak. talking about setting an example. don't tell people to be strong when you are softer than a cup cake. you couldn't bust a grape in a food fight.

i was prepared to label your"pay 500p for sleep" post as most lame of the month, but luckily for you don antonio stole your crown.

so tuck your tail and run home little boy, and don't make it personal when grown folks are trying to trach you something.your lame all the time-typical "know it all" don't know nothing

"all the sosua girls know your weak" yea your right why should i argue with a pinhead like you keep talkin' ---it really looks like stupidity is your forte along with spelling "trach" that cracks me up.

another genius quote "you can't bust a grape in a food fight" whatever you say there ----sosua's #1 "tracher" ----what a mental midget-------that's enough i'm dyin' here reading your reply as i'm sure other viewers are as well-------i can match wits with you, i'm laughin' too hard -----"food fight--grapes"
---personal attacks such as your just proves my posts---can't wait from some more precious quotes from you-------c'mon you made my 4th of july with your amazing "trachings" ---i'm sure all readers are more enlightened by your proverbs-----

Steve Urso
07-03-13, 20:11
Blackbeards and Field of Dreams would be a better comparison because both have chicas on site for 1500DP ST ans 3000DP TLN. Tropical Adult Vacations averages $500.00 a night. If you did 3 chicas and ate 3 meals at BB or FOD you would spend on average $250.00 but at TAV you pay twice as much for the same. Of course it's your choice.I understand that both of those are philosophically different options. Trying to figure out which one is better for me.

FYI. It is not $500 / night, it is around $350 / night.

Mr Gogo
07-03-13, 20:59
your lame all the time-typical "know it all" don't know nothing.

"all the sosua girls know your weak" yea your right why should i argue with a pinhead like you keep talkin'.it really looks like stupidity is your forte along with spelling "trach" that cracks me up.

another genius quote "you can't bust a grape in a food fight" whatever you say there.sosua's #1 "tracher".what a mental midget-that's enough i'm dyin' here reading your reply as i'm sure other viewers are as well-i can match wits with you, i'm laughin' too hard."food fight-grapes"

.personal attacks such as your just proves my posts-can't wait from some more precious quotes from you-c'mon you made my 4th of july with your amazing "trachings".i'm sure all readers are more enlightened by your proverbs-i guess you have yet to figure o that the letter"r" is next to the "e" when using my smartphone keyboard. most people will be able to figure it was a typo. but as usual everything has to be explained before you get it. enjoy your 4th of july, i'm getting on a plane to the dr now to go hsng with some girls that i can pay to sleep.

Zedman99
07-03-13, 21:19
He and wrn have no clue. They are the reason some girls are sour. They think most women are bitches and treat women accordingly. They believe that if you give a girl a 200 you are being jobbed, The DR is one of the poorest nations in the west Haiti leading that pack. I naturally treat people well. The putas appreciate for the most part and respond with good service.You agree with him. You got problems.

Anyway don't put words in my mouth-I never said the women are bitches-Aw forget why bother-Hey mongers looking for advice just give the girls whatever they want.they are all so poor and broke.yea if they want 200pesos to talk to you give the 1000 pesos what the hell-And for TLN dam give them 6000 pesos because after all we tourist didn't work for our money.nah we inherited it-people just walked up to us and gave it to us. We flew here for free and stay at friends place for free.Yea that's the ticket-C'mon lighten up listen to the "WISE MEN".Better you than me fall for that crap-the putas earn more in a night then most dominicans do in a fucin week

Don Antonio
07-03-13, 23:14
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ForceSteeler
07-03-13, 23:31
You agree with him. You got problems.

Anyway don't put words in my mouth-I never said the women are bitches-Aw forget why bother-Hey mongers looking for advice just give the girls whatever they want. They are all so poor and broke. Yea if they want 200pesos to talk to you give the 1000 pesos what the hell-And for TLN dam give them 6000 pesos because after all we tourist didn't work for our money. Nah we inherited it-people just walked up to us and gave it to us. We flew here for free and stay at friends place for free. Yea that's the ticket-C'mon lighten up listen to the "WISE MEN". Better you than me fall for that crap-the putas earn more in a night then most dominicans do in a fucin weekI find that the worst you treat these DR Chica's the more they like you and respect you.

If you treat them like a queen they will run all over you and try to scam you as much as they can. When I treat them like the bottom of my shoe, Deep down they respect me more. I Guess deep down alot of these girls have low self esteem issues.

Zedman99
07-04-13, 00:38
Dude, I spend about 3 mo. Of every year in Sosua.

And I do speak Spanish.

Why do the brothers need to dress like shit, pants down to the ankles, potbelly hanging out, beer in hand.

Shitty attitude towards all the girls, just like I have $$$, I am American.

I don't get it. It is not racist, but some of you are just scum. PERIOD.Well I got to admit he tells it like he feels it. Don't munce word Donnie Boy.

OldKool
07-04-13, 01:55
The forum has become shit. Flies are gathering. Wrn zed don a you boys have exhausted me with stupidity. Been on this site over 2 years and have never been so let down by my monger brethren.

QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1441974]Won't mince words, zd99.

Also tried to trade 4 pineapples, and a half dozen eggs for ST. Based on your advise.

Unfortunately, the girls still preferred 1, 000 pesos over a week of heart-healthy bf / lunch per your guidance.

What shall I do next?[/QUOTE]

Troubleman69
07-04-13, 02:14
Dude, I spend about 3 mo. Of every year in Sosua.

And I do speak Spanish.

Why do the brothers need to dress like shit, pants down to the ankles, potbelly hanging out, beer in hand.

Shitty attitude towards all the girls, just like I have $$$, I am American.

I don't get it. It is not racist, but some of you are just scum. PERIOD.Since you are there 3 months a year, why don't you ask one of them? Be sure to use that word, and explain to them face to face that you are not a racist.

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07-04-13, 02:27
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Adinga
07-04-13, 04:29
I'll be arriving to Sosua in 2 weeks.

I need advice concerning the use of credit cards if I run out of cash.

Where and how can I obtain Dominican pesos with American credit card and what can I expect to pay for transaction fees?

Thanks

DeepMmpactt
07-04-13, 05:36
Eddy Carter big Upps! (slang word for thank you) for the great report, Don Antonio I have to shake your hands, you single handedly showed your ass! And you got "the time of day" I'm being African American, would love to tell you what I really "think" of you for lobbing that N-word, but I'll just (imagine what I would say face to face). Old kool! I agree this thread has sank to new lows. Racially and it made it to the screen. Wow!

Mr Enternational
07-04-13, 07:20
I can hardly overemphasize the benefits that improving your Spanish can have on your sex life. A little Kreyol may help too, but most of the Kreyol speakers also seem to have a knowledge of Spanish greater than my knowledge of Kreyol. However, a little Kreyol is useful as an icebreaker, if nothing else.Why always the emphasis on Kreyol? I speak French and have never had a problem speaking to a Haitian person in just plain everyday French.

Frannie
07-04-13, 11:13
Why always the emphasis on Kreyol? I speak French and have never had a problem speaking to a Haitian person in just plain everyday French.You have probably been dealing with government officials or better educated persons who do speak French, but this is a small minority. I speak French too, but although there is a considerable vocabulary overlap, albeit with some changes to the way words are spelled and pronounced, a knowledge of French does not make it easy to understand spoken Creole or to communicate with uneducated Haitians, mainly because the grammar and the way pronouns and particles are used is so different.

Remember that English is also 45% derived from French, but most English speakers don't understand French.

See this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14534703

"The percentage of people who speak French fluently is about 5, and 100% speak Creole," says Chris Low.

"It's like a toddler who is forced to start walking with a blindfold'

Says Michel DeGraff Associate Professor of Linguistics at MIT.

"So it's really apartheid through language."

Ms Low is co-founder of an experimental school, the Matenwa Community Learning Center, which has broken with tradition, and conducts all classes in Creole.

Educating children in French may work for the small elite who are fully bilingual, she argues, but not for the masses.

French is used in Haitian schools, but then again only about 1 in 10 graduate high school and 1/3 never go to school at all.

Wrx2005
07-04-13, 11:54
Well I read through these last few pages and thought I'd throw my 2 cents.

A lot of what has been discussed over the last few pages was pretty relevant. Although my time in DR was spent mostly in Sosua I did have a day over in Punta Cana & Boca Chica. Breifly on that note, I saw Punta Cana wasn't as expensive as some have claimed on the forum. I only went with one chica, but she agreed to 1000 pesos and $1 LOL.

Unfortunately for me the performance was related to the price, no GFE, she wanted to be in and out of there. Gave her an extra 300 pesos and another $1 (I had $2 spare I don't use american dollars, so I was offering what I had) Nice detailed report. Thanks for sharing.

Wrx2005
07-04-13, 12:03
Day 1.

Arrived via Miami to POP at 2 PM. It took perhaps 20-30 minutes to obtain tourist card ($10. 00) and clear customs. Once outside of customs, be prepared to be bombarded with all types of silly offers, you want a beer, cambio, straight bullshit street vendors praying on the moment of you're new into this country, new experiences and hey can I take advantage of this mark. That's how I felt the moment I set foot on this rock and my opinion has not changed yet.Seems you made the best of a short vacation. Passions came through for you. Thanks for your detailed report.

Frannie
07-04-13, 14:12
Day 1.

Arrived via Miami to POP at 2 PM. It took perhaps 20-30 minutes to obtain tourist card ($10. 00) and clear customs. Once outside of customs, be prepared to be bombarded with all types of silly offers, you want a beer, cambio, straight bullshit street vendors praying on the moment of you're new into this country, new experiences and hey can I take advantage of this mark. That's how I felt the moment I set foot on this rock and my opinion has not changed yet.

Get to hotel, Henke was fair and exchanged some Pesso's at 40 per dollar as of today, so much better than airport, which was selling at 34 pesos / dollar.Nice report, but it is sad that you arrived (and left) with this feeling. Actually many of the people you will encounter at the airport are running legitimate businesses such as selling beer and snacks or changing money or providing taxi services at reasonable prices, though I would not buy souvenirs like T-shirts or packets of coffee from the stalls there to take back home as the prices do exceed norms.

The official looking exchange booth inside the airport is a ridiculous rip-off, agreed, but if you change money outside either at the Banco Reservas branch there, or at the ATM, or with one of the guys on the street, then you will get somewhere close to the going rate.

Today the official rate is 41. 95, so when you exchanged your money with the guy who was "fair", you actually paid a more than 5% surcharge on your entire vacation! You see it isn't the guys on the street who are necessarily ripping you off but the organized businesses like the exchange place inside the airport or your hotelier. Although to be fair, he is just providing a convenient service to save you going out and changing money, albeit one that is very profitable for him.

Just pointing this out because people get paranoid about small perceived scams, but fall for the bigger, more expensive ones.

I lived in the US and was continually bombarded with silly offers, like police and military calling all the time on the phone trying to shake people down for contributions to their "pension fund". Or a mailbox full of silly offers every day.

Just pointing this out because people get paranoid about small perceived scams in the DR, but still fall for the big ones.

Mr Enternational
07-04-13, 14:28
You have probably been dealing with government officials or better educated persons who do speak French, but this is a small minority. I speak French too, but although there is a considerable vocabulary overlap, albeit with some changes to the way words are spelled and pronounced, a knowledge of French does not make it easy to understand spoken Creole or to communicate with uneducated Haitians, mainly because the grammar and the way pronouns and particles are used is so different.Nahh. I'm talking your run of the mill street hooker or hustler immigrant in Sosua. Enough of someone else's statistical analysis man. Give me some practical knowledge here. Is it that in your experience most of the Haitians you attempt to deal with don't understand when you speak French to them? Because I have not encountered one who did not understand or did not speak pretty damn good. I don't know a lick of Kreyol and wouldn't know it if it came up and slapped me right in the face.

Frannie
07-04-13, 14:34
Nahh. I'm talking your run of the mill street hooker or hustler immigrant in Sosua.You probably don't have lengthy conversations, then, but do you understand them when they reply in Kreyol? Although I know a lot of French and a little Kreyol, I find that those persons often know Spanish, so that is what I use. When I was in Haiti I found French was not understood by a lot of people and it was better to use a Kreyol interpreter.

Charles Pooter
07-04-13, 15:59
5% of Haitians speak French fairly well, though heavily regionalized (like a Jamaican speaking English) but 98% have Kreyol as their first language. Most of the latter speak varying amounts of French, from only a few words and phrases upwards.

The fact that Mr Enternational has found a lot of haitianas who speak French in Sosua illustrates the difference between Dominican and Haitian putas and why I prefer the latter. Most Dominican putas (apart from a few more educated ones with mental or drug problems) come from the least educated strata of society (same as street putas in most countries). Whereas many Haitian ones in the DR don't. Because of the appalling economic situation in Haiti, girls who can read and write and do simple math (and sometimes a lot more) , who could get jobs if they were Dominicans in the DR, are unable to get any work at all. The ones who come to the DR to hook need a lot of courage and initiative and a little start-up money. I have been with haitianas who were qualified nurses, teachers and secretaries. Such people will have gone to school and learned some French. They are also more likely to make responsible and interesting companions than illiterate Dominican trash.

The absolute no-hopers stay in Haiti and slowly starve. They are the ones with no education and who speak only Kreyol.

The other reason Frannie and I emphasize Kreyol is that very few Americans speak French. So if you want to learn a little of a new language just to speak to Haitians it is obviously more productive to start learning Kreyol than French. It is also easier as Kreyol is an extremely simple and regular language. Any one verb in Spanish has up to 100 different forms. In Kreyol just one. There is also no gender to worry about.

Of course if you are an international traveller like Mr Enternational and plan on visiting francophone countries around the world your time would be better spent on improving your French, as Haitian Kreyol won't help you anywhere else (apart from Martinique and Guadeloupe where I understand Haitian Kreyol speakers can just about get by).

Ath Trainer
07-04-13, 17:59
I do not remember this being discussed anywhere before, so I will ask it. I've heard many guys say that hatians are better choices than the dominicqn chicas.

Can you, and how do you tell, by looking at a girl, if she is hatian or dominican?

Alex Deuce
07-04-13, 18:32
Kreyol is basically broken French like American Ebonics. A native French speaker will have some difficulty with the "slang" but should be able to communicate at a base level. It's often easier to communicate with even the most uneducated Hatian as they speak multiple languages.

Frannie
07-04-13, 18:34
Is it that in your experience most of the Haitians you attempt to deal with don't understand when you speak French to them? Because I have not encountered one who did not understand or did not speak pretty damn good. I don't know a lick of Kreyol and wouldn't know it if it came up and slapped me right in the face.Of course they will understand some words, because many words are the same in Kreyol and French, especially if you allow for dropping nearly all the 'r' sounds in French as the rolled 'r' is unknown in Kreyol, but when I was in Port au Prince I did not find French very useful for communicating with the people who were homeless after the earthquake.

If you speak French you are obviously a fairly good linguist, but I am surprised you say you have never encountered Kreyol, because if you are used to conversing with Haitians and Haitianas in the DR, it would be hard to avoid. You may have thought you were hearing heavily accented French and not noticed the grammatical changes, changes in the pronouns, verb forms, and the words used to ask questions, or the use of the word 'bagay' every fifth word.

Nearly all the Haitianas I meet in the DR speak Spanish fairly well, so as that is my language of choice, I usually speak to them in Spanish. When they speak to each other they always speak in Kreyol, not expecting to have their conversations dialed into by such as I, and laugh if I reply in my lousy Kreyol.

OldKool
07-04-13, 18:39
Haitian girls I have had were great in the sack. They were much easier to negotiate with. 1000 pesos and they are happy. I cannot say they enjoy it more or are just hard workers. I am sure there are exceptions. Best blow job I ever had was from average looking haitain girl. I thought I nothing in the tank but she curled my toes. Hatians come in many colors but are usually dark and thin. However I have seen some with bodies that are off the charts. They rarely are accused of scamming. I tend to like the malutto look of DR girls but will give a cute haitan a shot every now and then.

DR.


I do not remember this being discussed anywhere before, so I will ask it. I've heard many guys say that hatians are better choices than the dominicqn chicas.

Can you, and how do you tell, by looking at a girl, if she is hatian or dominican?

Frannie
07-04-13, 18:44
I do not remember this being discussed anywhere before, so I will ask it. I've heard many guys say that hatians are better choices than the dominicqn chicas.

Can you, and how do you tell, by looking at a girl, if she is hatian or dominican?Yes, you can tell by looking, though it is not 100% infallible and there are some people who are mixed, or Dominicans of Haitian descent. Haitians are mostly dark skinned, have characteristically wide spaced eyes, characteristic hair styles and dress, a characteristic accent in Spanish, have French sounding names, make frequent references to Senor Jesus, and are usually found in the company of other Haitians speaking Kreyol among themselves. You will almost never see a Haitiana smoking a cigarette and they rarely drink much alcohol. Many of them live in Montellano or Los Cangrejos.

Dominicanas are often lighter skinned, speak with a characteristic Dominican accent, have Spanish names, and are found in the company of other Dominicanas.

With a bit of practice you can tell the difference at 50 paces.

Charles Pooter
07-04-13, 20:25
Yes, you can tell by looking, though it is not 100% infallible and there are some people who are mixed, or Dominicans of Haitian descent. Haitians are mostly dark skinned, have characteristically wide spaced eyes, characteristic hair styles and dress, a characteristic accent in Spanish, have French sounding names, make frequent references to Senor Jesus, and are usually found in the company of other Haitians speaking Kreyol among themselves. You will almost never see a Haitiana smoking a cigarette and they rarely drink much alcohol. Many of them live in Montellano or Los Cangrejos.

Dominicanas are often lighter skinned, speak with a characteristic Dominican accent, have Spanish names, and are found in the company of other Dominicanas.

With a bit of practice you can tell the difference at 50 paces.I would claim to be always 100% right at 50 paces, but of course if one does not make the person's acquaintance you will never find out if you are wrong, so perhaps in all modesty I should reduce that to 99%.

Interesting that Frannie should mention the wide-spaced eyes. I always joke with my girlfriend that she has some rana blood as her eyes at practically on the sides of her head. Just joking and most people would say she has an attractive face, but she does have particularly wide-spaced eyes.

Another common giveaway that Frannie did not mention is a gap between the two central front teeth. Also Haitians tend to have large hands and feet. Even quite dainty girls will have long feet. Haitians have more lanky, muscular frames, through the cruel process of natural selection on the plantations, and even after the revolution these were maintained by the enormous amount of physical work they did and the amount of walking though lack of roads and transport. Even today it is commonplace for small children to walk two or three miles and back to fetch a 5-gallon container of water each day.

Of course there are also white Haitians and fair-skinned Haitians and if you watch Haitian films and TV you will see plenty of those. But Haitian society is even more racist and color-conscious than Dominican, and these mixed-race Haitians have always owned and ruled most of the country. Papa Doc was a vile dictator, but one of his few good deeds was to empower "black" Haitians somewhat, including making Kreyol the joint official language. Indeed their support for that reason helped keep him in power. But even he did not get very far in changing the long-term centers of power and wealth.

So these fairer-skinned Haitians (as in the DR, but to an even greater extent) have all the advantages in getting educated and being offered jobs and for that reason will rarely surface in the DR as putas.

There are plenty of black Dominicans as well. Mostly these will be of Haitian descent. But there are also lots of "Cocolos" as well. These are the descendents of black freed slaves who came from the former British colonies to harvest sugar cane. I pride myself that I can distinguish these from Haitians, as Dominicans claim to do (and of course rating Cocolos above Haitians) but I do not know why this should be possible as the forebears of both came from West Africa. Maybe it is through dress and mannerisms and, obviously, speaking better Spanish.

Zedman99
07-04-13, 20:37
doesn't matter. he is lucky he didn't pay even more out the ass for knowingly dealing with an **** chica. he knew that broad wasn't 18. who the fuck just agrees to hop in the back of a police car and go down to the station without at least asking what the charges are?

he chose to stay at an apartment so that he wouldn't have to deal with the "hassle" of having his chica present her i'd at the front desk of a hotel. he would have paid whatever the police were willing to extort him for to keep from getting banned from entering the dr. didn't want his flow of young dark chocolate haitians cut off (read up on him and his love of dark meat despite the racial slurs)!

notice this dirtbag only shows up to this forum around this time of year when he is on "holiday" (his ****-bear bust was last year around this time!).-priceless-told you viewers out there in mongerland be weary of posters telling you to give in to extortionist-especially the "chicas"--they are either idiots or "on the take" with the chicas

Zedman99
07-04-13, 20:48
I find that the worst you treat these DR Chica's the more they like you and respect you.

If you treat them like a queen they will run all over you and try to scam you as much as they can. When I treat them like the bottom of my shoe, Deep down they respect me more. I Guess deep down alot of these girls have low self esteem issues.-I think with the girls I deal with on a more regular basis its the fact they know they can't get over on you so they do respect you in that sense. And also they know what to expect from you and are satisfied with the arrangement and the $$$. So why should they try to scam you-really they aren't dumb-they know a good thing and if they find something better they'll move on --- So what if they do-there's new chicas there everyday just lookin' for that dinero.

Frannie
07-04-13, 22:21
Even today it is commonplace for small children to walk two or three miles and back to fetch a 5-gallon container of water each day.Yes I have a photo I took in Haiti of a girl of about 10 with a full five-gallon pail of water on her head-no hands. I find it hard to lift a five-gallon botellon onto my shoulder, never mind put it on my head.

Haitian women also tend to have broad shoulders in proportion compared to most women. They certainly don't need shoulder pads.

Haitian women and children are much more likely than Dominicans to have their hair in braids with or without beads, often of an elaborate nature. Dominicanas go more for the long weaves of very straight, shiny black hair, probably from Chinese heads.

Bravo
07-04-13, 22:24
There are plenty of black Dominicans as well. Mostly these will be of Haitian descent. But there are also lots of "Cocolos" as well. These are the descendents of black freed slaves who came from the former British colonies to harvest sugar cane. I pride myself that I can distinguish these from Haitians, as Dominicans claim to do (and of course rating Cocolos above Haitians) but I do not know why this should be possible as the forebears of both came from West Africa. Maybe it is through dress and mannerisms and, obviously, speaking better Spanish.That is very interesting. My family is Puerto Rican and in our culture the word "Cocolo" is very degrading. It worse than calling a black person the "N-Word". That word is very offensive!

Charles Pooter
07-05-13, 00:10
That is very interesting. My family is Puerto Rican and in our culture the word "Cocolo" is very degrading. It worse than calling a black person the "N-Word". That word is very offensive!Yes, apparently the word has different shades of meaning all over the Caribbean.

For my first two years living in the DR, I had many conversations with a dark-skinned dominicana living in the same apartment block. She came from the San Pedro de Macoris area, where many Cocolos settled. She had a British surname and with me being English that prompted her to tell me many times that her father was a Cocolo. I was puzzled to think she was so proud to have this remote connection with the glorious British Empire, but I have since realized that the point was to "reassure" me she had no Haitian ancestry.

Midnight831
07-05-13, 00:40
The more I read about Sousa the less I want to go. I leave for the DR on Monday the 8th. I'll stay in Punta Cana with my gf until Saturday the 13th and then am taking a bus to meet my buddy who is flying into Santo Domingo. We were then planning to bus it up to Sousa and stay there until Thursday, the 18th. But now that I'm reading how much Sousa has changed I'm not so interested in it anymore. Are there any other beach towns that are safe and friendly to Americans, and where we can meet some girls? I'm starting to think Cabarete may be better. The girls in Sousa sound like the same haggling, bad attitude, bunch that are here in America. And the prices are pretty similar too. I'm looking for a girl that can at least play the part of a novia. The types of girls that were described in the "old Sousa" post. I'm not a fool. I know in the end of the day it's all about money. But the experience one can get for their money can be dramatically different.

OldKool
07-05-13, 01:18
THE CLAIM THAT RACE IS NOT A FACTOR IN THE dr IS bs. Go to the upscale malls you will see no dark people unless they are picking up trash. Everyone accepts there place. Every one know the rules. I have seen women on Cupid darker then me who claim they are white. I understand there are classifications of color. In families you will have every shade of the rainbow.


Yes, apparently the word has different shades of meaning all over the Caribbean.

For my first two years living in the DR, I had many conversations with a dark-skinned dominicana living in the same apartment block. She came from the San Pedro de Macoris area, where many Cocolos settled. She had a British surname and with me being English that prompted her to tell me many times that her father was a Cocolo. I was puzzled to think she was so proud to have this remote connection with the glorious British Empire, but I have since realized that the point was to "reassure" me she had no Haitian ancestry.

Rebel Monger
07-05-13, 01:27
I do not remember this being discussed anywhere before, so I will ask it. I've heard many guys say that hatians are better choices than the dominicqn chicas.

Can you, and how do you tell, by looking at a girl, if she is hatian or dominican?Looks can be deceiving. I just talk to them, the accent would tell.

In reality, it doesn't matter, if I like her, I don't care where she is from, or how she looks.

And don't put too much mind on what "guys" say as most of the time we say things to boost our egos, and feel good about our "choices".

Just do your thing and try to have fun while doing it, otherwise you might lose a good thing!

ConquerorVal
07-05-13, 02:53
the more i read about sousa the less i want to go.interesting you say that. imho, it appears that none of the other threads bash their location and service providers as much as sosua. quite a few reports describe sosua in very unflattering terms. it seems like some members have a love and hate relationship with this place. mind you i can compare it only to threads that i have read which are mostly asian and european.

i do recall one contributor to the philippines thread that was attacked by quite a few members. their criticism was justified as the man was charged for having sex with **** girls. one has to search deep in the sosua report to find something positive or really helpful, especially for a newbie. i almost dread reading the comments, which if not trivial, often have strong undertones of aggression. it is quite evident that there are some very opinionated and entrenched mongering schools of thought in the sosua camp. chris long's guide was the last helpful thing i read. i have committed myself to coming here in august, and have really no expectations of what to expect, even though i have been to dr (pp) about 15 years ago, but not as a monger. i think you should not focus on what sosua was like years ago. if you have not been there during that time, it is irrelevant. changes, everywhere rarely seem to benefit a monger anymore. i say, live on the edge, (just joking) and go for it. surely, its better than north america (except mexico maybe) and sosua may have even less to offer in few years from now.

Combo
07-05-13, 03:16
I find that the worst you treat these DR Chica's the more they like you and respect you.

If you treat them like a queen they will run all over you and try to scam you as much as they can. When I treat them like the bottom of my shoe, Deep down they respect me more. I Guess deep down alot of these girls have low self esteem issues.I think you're going a bit too far. I definitely agree that these women respect you more if you're not a pushover. Paying a high asking price, letting her dictate the terms of your interaction usually don't get you a better experience. They just let her know you're an easy mark and possibly increase your chances of trouble. Having said that, I think that these girls should be treated as fellow human beings. It's a fine line that a smart hobbyist gets a feel for over time.

Combo
07-05-13, 03:38
Looks can be deceiving. I just talk to them, the accent would tell.

In reality, it doesn't matter, if I like her, I don't care where she is from, or how she looks.

And don't put too much mind on what "guys" say as most of the time we say things to boost our egos, and feel good about our "choices".

Just do your thing and try to have fun while doing it, otherwise you might lose a good thing!No kidding. Talk to them for 10 seconds and it will be pretty obvious. Or ask them "De donde eres?" They'll either tell you a city in the DR or say Haiti.

The Mind Bender
07-05-13, 04:50
I find that the worst you treat these DR Chica's the more they like you and respect you.

If you treat them like a queen they will run all over you and try to scam you as much as they can. When I treat them like the bottom of my shoe, Deep down they respect me more. I Guess deep down alot of these girls have low self esteem issues.I completely disagree.

As long as you let your boundaries be known up front there's nothing wrong with treating a chica well.

The girls I deal with always want to stay longer because I make them laugh and feel comfortable.

As long as you're not a gullible simp chances are she'll appreciate it


The more I read about Sousa the less I want to go. I leave for the DR on Monday the 8th. I'll stay in Punta Cana with my gf until Saturday the 13th and then am taking a bus to meet my buddy who is flying into Santo Domingo. We were then planning to bus it up to Sousa and stay there until Thursday, the 18th. But now that I'm reading how much Sousa has changed I'm not so interested in it anymore. Are there any other beach towns that are safe and friendly to Americans, and where we can meet some girls? I'm starting to think Cabarete may be better. The girls in Sousa sound like the same haggling, bad attitude, bunch that are here in America. And the prices are pretty similar too. I'm looking for a girl that can at least play the part of a novia. The types of girls that were described in the "old Sousa" post. I'm not a fool. I know in the end of the day it's all about money. But the experience one can get for their money can be dramatically different.

don't let certain comments turn you off there's still plenty of good time to be had in Sosua

just use common sense and your instincts and you'll be fine

Frannie
07-05-13, 12:25
interesting you say that. imho, it appears that none of the other threads bash their location and service providers as much as sosua. quite a few reports describe sosua in very unflattering terms. it seems like some members have a love and hate relationship with this place. mind you i can compare it only to threads that i have read which are mostly asian and european.

surely, its better than north america (except mexico maybe) and sosua may have even less to offer in few years from now.this is true and i have noticed the same thing.

i think it is still possible to find some girl friend type girls in sosua, but guys are very ambivalent about what they want. some want girls who will make love like lovers, and yet they still want to avoid any kind of intimacy and don't want to work on the relationship.

when i first came to the dr ten years ago, the attraction was always that it was possible to have relationships with attractive young women who were not like stereotypical drug-taking, cigarette-smoking, alcoholic prostitute of the type one would find on the internet in the us. for the most part this was true. how often will you see middle-aged men dining with young prostitutes in restaurants in the us, or dancing with them in discos?

i have always traveled alone, but these days it seems quite common for men to travel in pairs or in groups and be very concerned about the opinion of their peers. not only does this affect their ability to get into relationships, but it also blocks the total immersion experience in the spanish language and dominican culture. anxiety about sex is also managed by heavy drinking of alcohol.

although i am not actively involved in the sosua bar sex scene these days, i do think that what was available before is still available if you just look for it. i was told the other day by a seriously cute 19-year-old that she loves me and she wants to be my novia. even though this is obviously complete bullshit and the novia thing will never happen, these flattering words still fall pleasingly on the ear, because few men of over 60 have the opportunity to turn down a 19-year-old. i also have a very attractive married woman of 33 in a long-running flirtation that could probably be consummated if i really wanted. i know a very attractive girl of 18 who is probably a virgin and who would like nothing better than a nice, reliable boyfriend who would give her a bit of financial help to continue going to school, chat on the internet, take her out for dinner, buy her a few clothes, etc.

Frannie
07-05-13, 12:41
i find that the worst you treat these dr chica's the more they like you and respect you.

if you treat them like a queen they will run all over you and try to scam you as much as they can. when i treat them like the bottom of my shoe, deep down they respect me more. i guess deep down alot of these girls have low self esteem issues.the problem is that if you treat them badly so that they will respect you more, does this really lead to a harmonious relationship, or will you hate yourself for picking a chica who makes you behave this ugly way? can you give an example of this therapeutic mistreatment and how it works without causing underlying resentment or public embarrassment? would you ignore her birthday and give her extra chores instead while you go out with another woman?

sorry if i sound thick, but i always like concrete examples of situations versus abstract theories.

Mr Enternational
07-05-13, 13:16
Frannie, ask her what being your novia entails. LOL.

Frannie
07-05-13, 13:51
Frannie, ask her what being your novia entails.I don't need to ask. It means meeting her ever escalating demands for money for various projects that she will reveal in the course of time in exchange for sex which will be good at first, but subject to the laws of diminishing returns. Being a novia also implies exclusive sex without condoms, though she would take the pill.

Being a novia could just mean being a girlfriend in a straightforward sense for a single man without other domestic commitments. The word "novia" in Spanish can mean "girlfriend" or "mistress", but it can also be translated as "fiancee" or as "bride" depending on the context.

Wrx2005
07-05-13, 14:34
the problem is that if you treat them badly so that they will respect you more, does this really lead to a harmonious relationship, or will you hate yourself for picking a chica who makes you behave this ugly way? can you give an example of this therapeutic mistreatment and how it works without causing underlying resentment or public embarrassment? would you ignore her birthday and give her extra chores instead while you go out with another woman?

sorry if i sound thick, but i always like concrete examples of situations versus abstract theories.i too would like to see some examples. in the states, it's quite common to hear some men claim that women give thugs and bad boys more respect and their attention than guys that are nice. maybe thats the direction he's going?

Frannie
07-05-13, 14:54
I too would like to see some examples. In the states, it's quite common to hear some men claim that women give thugs and bad boys more respect and their attention than guys that are NICE. Maybe thats the direction he's going?I think there is a certain amount of truth in the sense that women respect men who are assertive, but that is not quite the same as treating them badly. For example if I tell her that I want to watch golf on TV for four hours on a Saturday, and then I stick to that program so that she can't watch her beloved novellas, then she will respect that. But that is quite different from, say, taking the card from the cable box when I leave the house, so that she cannot watch her novellas when I am gone. I think that would just make her angry and not earn respect.

I don't know if women "respect" thugs and bad boys, but certainly there are types of women who get into unhealthy relationships with criminal types, usually due to low self esteem, financial dependence, and lack of a viable alternative. There was an interesting case in the UK recently when a guy who was in and out of prison murdered a girl of 12 in an apparent sexual attack and hid the body in the attic. The guy was the boyfriend of the grandmother, but had also had had a relationship with the mother, who lived in the same house. One would ask why the women would bother with such a loser, but of course the answer is that they are also big time losers and have a string of these guys so they can get sex, money, drugs, etc.

See this and note the picture of the dead child's real birth father, a former boyfriend of the mother.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326870/Stuart-Hazell-Tia-Sharp-murderers-self-pitying-letters-jail-reveal-upset-nasty-stuff-said-prisoners.html

Wrx2005
07-05-13, 15:11
This doesn't exactly fall under treating a chica badly to get respect or to be liked. But I was supposed to meet a chica on Skype this morning (9 am ). Chica never showed up. 17 minutes later, I sent her a text letting her know I was online at 9. (I was doing other things, so it wasnt a big deal. ) "Since you didn't show I'm going to take care of important things." Chica texts me right away to tell me that she is sorry, she's online now. Now I know better. She was probably on Skype with one of her other customers, and didn't finish with him fast enough. Even if she wasnt, she was late. Now I could have easily got back on Skype to chat. But IMO that would of sent the message that she can do that anytime, followed by the same lame "excusame mi amor".

Moreover, she needs to realize, that if she is going to be late, then give me a courtesy call. I told her this before. She obviously don't have a problem using her minutes, because she called and texted me when I told her I wasnt waiting. IMO it's the subtle forms of disrespect or inconsideration thats tolerated from these chicas that leads to much bigger forms of the same.

Now when there is money involved, some of these chicas still can fuck up a good thing. You tell a chica a time to get together, and they show up 2 hours later, and you still are waiting for her? That sets a bad example. I have a buddy that met a chica on her scooter at the Playero. She was 2 hours late. Kept playing phone tag until she got there. What we suspect, she was handling other client (s) and couldn't really come on time, so she was stalling my buddy.

When the chica finally got there, (after turning down viable offers from other chicas) her performance was whack and hurried. He was very dissapointed in her and in himself. So that day he should have learned a lesson of not allowing a chica to hustle you for your time and money. What he should have done, was go to plan B find another chica, ignore the chicas calls. Or tell her straight up on the phone that he made other plans. She may not learn a lesson, because she don't give a shit, but at least you aint allowing yourself to be stalled, and worse, have a bad session.

Frannie
07-05-13, 15:53
So that day he should have learned a lesson of not allowing a chica to hustle you for your time and money. What he should have done, was go to plan B find another chica, ignore the chicas calls. Or tell her straight up on the phone that he made other plans. She may not learn a lesson, because she don't give a shit, but at least you aint allowing yourself to be stalled, and worse, have a bad session.Yes, that is exactly what he should have done.

Zedman99
07-05-13, 16:29
This doesn't exactly fall under treating a chica badly to get respect or to be liked. But I was supposed to meet a chica on Skype this morning (9 am ). Chica never showed up. 17 minutes later, I sent her a text letting her know I was online at 9. (I was doing other things, so it wasnt a big deal.)"Since you didn't show I'm going to take care of important things." Chica texts me right away to tell me that she is sorry, she's online now. Now I know better. She was probably on Skype with one of her other customers, and didn't finish with him fast enough. Even if she wasnt, she was late. Now I could have easily got back on Skype to chat. But IMO that would of sent the message that she can do that anytime, followed by the same lame "excusame mi amor".

Moreover, she needs to realize, that if she is going to be late, then give me a courtesy call. I told her this before. She obviously don't have a problem using her minutes, because she called and texted me when I told her I wasnt waiting. IMO it's the subtle forms of disrespect or inconsideration thats tolerated from these chicas that leads to much bigger forms of the same.

Now when there is money involved, some of these chicas still can fuck up a good thing. You tell a chica a time to get together, and they show up 2 hours later, and you still are waiting for her? That sets a bad example. I have a buddy that met a chica on her scooter at the Playero. She was 2 hours late. Kept playing phone tag until she got there. What we suspect, she was handling other client (s) and couldn't really come on time, so she was stalling my buddy.

When the chica finally got there, (after turning down viable offers from other chicas) her performance was whack and hurried. He was very dissapointed in her and in himself. So that day he should have learned a lesson of not allowing a chica to hustle you for your time and money. What he should have done, was go to plan B find another chica, ignore the chicas calls. Or tell her straight up on the phone that he made other plans. She may not learn a lesson, because she don't give a shit, but at least you aint allowing yourself to be stalled, and worse, have a bad session.I might tell a chica I see at say D'Latinos I might see her there tomorrow but never specifics-They could care less about appointments and times they tell you-they go for the quick $$$$ I can't blame them-unless your a regular and even then there's no guarantee that the chica will keep any appointment at anytime-In the meantime your missing out on dozens of other opportunities

OldKool
07-05-13, 16:39
I do not let the girls control my roll. I try to be care free and amiable. The girls taylor their behavior by how I treat them which is good. I have the money which they want. The girls know that there are 100s of girls waiting for my cash. So it is in their interest to make me happy. I rarely have issues with the girls. When I vet girls I illiminate the bad apples. When I find a winner I reward her by more sessions and fun with me.


I might tell a chica I see at say D'Latinos I might see her there tomorrow but never specifics-They could care less about appointments and times they tell you-they go for the quick $$$$ I can't blame them-unless your a regular and even then there's no guarantee that the chica will keep any appointment at anytime-In the meantime your missing out on dozens of other opportunities

Wrx2005
07-06-13, 00:02
I think there is a certain amount of truth in the sense that women respect men who are assertive, but that is not quite the same as treating them badly. For example if I tell her that I want to watch golf on TV for four hours on a Saturday, and then I stick to that program so that she can't watch her beloved novellas, then she will respect that. But that is quite different from, say, taking the card from the cable box when I leave the house, so that she cannot watch her novellas when I am gone. I think that would just make her angry and not earn respect.Thats why it would be interesting to see the examples from the poster.


=Frannie;1442586]I don't know if women "respect" thugs and bad boys, but certainly there are types of women who get into unhealthy relationships with criminal types, usually due to low self esteem, financial dependence, and lack of a viable alternative.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326870/Stuart-Hazell-Tia-Sharp-murderers-self-pitying-letters-jail-reveal-upset-nasty-stuff-said-prisoners.htmlMany women do respect thugs and bad boys. Depends on what one means by respect. When I think of respect, I think in basic terms."Having admiration or esteem for a person." or "To show regard or consideration." And basically thats all the women are doing. Admiring or having esteem for the so-called bad boys, thugs, rough necks, (whatever term people use) but not admiring the nice guys or guys they can take advantage. Now, how much admiration or esteem a woman has, or what is considered bad or thuggish behavior in their eyes is a matter of personal preference or what they are attracted to.

Wrx2005
07-06-13, 00:22
I might tell a chica I see at say D'Latinos I might see her there tomorrow but never specifics-They could care less about appointments and times they tell you-they go for the quick $$$$ I can't blame them-unless your a regular and even then there's no guarantee that the chica will keep any appointment at anytime-In the meantime your missing out on dozens of other opportunitiesMost of the hookups I have are pre-arranged on some level. When it comes to time, I will be flexible depending on the situation. Random chicas I don't like giving specific times when it comes to a tentative hookup. Too often more attractive options can happen at any time. I'm finding I have to exercise that now with these Dom Cupid chicas online. There's so many to choose from.

Zedman99
07-06-13, 01:05
Most of the hookups I have are pre-arranged on some level. When it comes to time, I will be flexible depending on the situation. Random chicas I don't like giving specific times when it comes to a tentative hookup. Too often more attractive options can happen at any time. I'm finding I have to exercise that now with these Dom Cupid chicas online. There's so many to choose from.He call four chicas up tells them he'll pay the first one the money that shows up and takes care of him at a certain time. He said its funny because the one chica said "How about if I come a little earlier " he told her "Well I guess you get the $$$$$."

Wrx2005
07-06-13, 01:15
He call four chicas up tells them he'll pay the first one the money that shows up and takes care of him at a certain time. He said its funny because the one chica said "How about if I come a little earlier " he told her "Well I guess you get the $$$$$."That could work well in Sosua. Except when two to four show up at the same time? And, if they were his favoritas that don't know each other, that could be more of a problem.

Frannie
07-06-13, 02:29
Thats why it would be interesting to see the examples from the poster.

Many women do respect thugs and bad boys. Depends on what one means by respect. When I think of respect, I think in basic terms."Having admiration or esteem for a person." or "To show regard or consideration." And basically thats all the women are doing. Admiring or having esteem for the so-called bad boys, thugs, rough necks, (whatever term people use) but not admiring the nice guys or guys they can take advantage. Now, how much admiration or esteem a woman has, or what is considered bad or thuggish behavior in their eyes is a matter of personal preference or what they are attracted to.It depends what you mean by respect. I am very familiar with the phenomenon, but I think it depends a lot on economic situations. If the woman is financially independent she can support a man and may choose one who is a "bad boy" (usually equals drug addict, alcoholic, and unreliable employee) , because that makes her feel powerful in the relationship and that she can do something to help him get "better". I have known women who were teachers who have done this, and many women who are nurses get involved with men who are emotionally crippled or in and out of prison, because they enjoy the drama. I have also known women who work in prisons to get sexually involved with inmates.

On the other hand, if the woman is of low socio-economic status, she may get a boost by being associated with someone who appears powerful, even if he treats her very badly.

The plot of the musical and film Grease is an interesting example of the goody-goody girl and the bad boy being both attracted and repelled by each other. Danny and Sandy have an innocent summer romance at the beach, and then meet up again in high school where Danny is a tough guy gang leader with a reputation to defend, while Sandy is an innocent young woman derided by other girls as "Miss Sandra Dee, lousy with virginity."

Whether the plot is true to life is another question, as it ends up with leather gang-leader Danny arriving for the last day of school in a letterman's jacket that he has earned in track in his attempts to impress conventional Sandy by converting to a jock, while she shows up in a sexy leather suit smoking a cigarette. Anyway, it is very amusing.

PartyPooper87
07-06-13, 07:40
Long time reader. 1st time poster. The site has helped travel all the way from East Africa to Asia and down to Latin-America. Boy, those trips would have been a bummer if I hadn't came across this forum. I'm heading to Sousa in a few weeks and want to know what's the likely hood of grabbing a 9 or 10 out of Classicos or anywhere. I like to aim high because my theory is if I travel half-way around the world I want to get a chick I clearly would have trouble getting very easily in the States. If I pay, I want to pay for the best, however this doesn't always translate to bed performance. The pics of chicas I've seen in the photo gallery just don't raise to the level of chicas in Costa Rica or Colombia. I want to know if everyone is playing with their cards close to their chest (hiding pics) or DR just doesn't have stunners like Colombia.

Thanks gents,

Also, I have two really good reports I will post for Manila and CR.

Sidney
07-06-13, 12:10
Anoche, a sensational, exceptional performance by a multi-talented group of 4 singers, chanters, and musicians featuring guitars, bongos, and percussion. They blew the crowd away and received a standing ovation after playing almost 2 hours! . Sorry, I didn't get their name because the intro was done in very fast spoken Spanish.

Wrx2005
07-06-13, 13:22
It depends what you mean by respect. I am very familiar with the phenomenon, but I think it depends a lot on economic situations. If the woman is financially independent she can support a man and may choose one who is a "bad boy" (usually equals drug addict, alcoholic, and unreliable employee) , because that makes her feel powerful in the relationship and that she can do something to help him get "better". I have known women who were teachers who have done this, and many women who are nurses get involved with men who are emotionally crippled or in and out of prison, because they enjoy the drama. I have also known women who work in prisons to get sexually involved with inmates.

On the other hand, if the woman is of low socio-economic status, she may get a boost by being associated with someone who appears powerful, even if he treats her very badly.I'm not clear on what is dependent on economic situations? I got your scenario but not where you may be implying respect exists or doesn't exist between the parties. In your example. You have outlined one of the motivations for the woman with a man in that condition. But what we don't have are all of the OTHER variables that may apply for why she is attracted to or involved with the man. Such as his sexual prowess perhaps. Maybe the way he is in demand by other women? Maybe his behavior or track record gives him the appearance of a guy who isn't afraid to live on the edge, play by his own rules? It could be something so abstract that it may not even seem to make sense, but it may also be a reason for her attraction or involvement.

Which means. In certain instances, there may be many things about him that she may respect in him, and many that she doesn't. She may respect one thing about him, while totally ignoring or downplaying the other foul aspects of his character or track record, which she uses to feel powerful. In addition, I talked about another element that can help define respect in it's basic terms, and that was. To show regard or consideration. Using your scenario, the woman is showing regard or consideration to that man on some level. Her seeking or enjoying power does not necessarily mean that motivation negates there being any element of respect for her target, or certain aspects of that individual. Basic question. Can she respect the man or be respectful to the man, without respecting his condition / behavior? I say yes.

We can take your scenario and say the woman is of low socio economic status. She may have no ego boost at all, and therefore may not be the least interested in appearing powerful in the relationship. Under those circumstances, she still may find things about the man that she respects. With those female guards getting with inmates. They may have high or low esteem, but still we need to know what they are focused on that they respect in the men. Many inmates are smooth talkers. Maybe the female respects his sincerity (or the appearance of it ). He may come off as being very personable, or knowledgeable. And she may respect that in him.

So IMO, a lot depends on what the parties are focused on in each other, as they relate to each other, not necessarily where they are economically.

There was a scene in the movie Jackie Brown (1997) with Robert DeNiro, Brigette Fonda. Roberts character was supposedly just released from prison. They are sitting in the living room talking. And she asks him what he did to get in prison and how long? He said he got pinched for Bank Robbery and did 4 plus years. As soon as he said that, she blurted out that she was impressed by that. In other words, she admired him or showed regard or consideration for what he had done. A few minutes later she asked him if he wanted to fuck, he said yes. OTOH, when it was time to leave together to go to the mall, when they got in the mall, and when they left the mall, she was showing much disrespect to him all the way. Mocking him and not listening to him. I believe in that moment he would NOT have been getting any pussy from her. He ended up shooting her in the parking lot. My point here is. The things that lead to respect or disrespect are ever changing variables. And it can be applied or unapplied anywhere and anytime. One can have respect for someone in one aspect or area, and have disrespect for someone in another aspect or area. Where they are economically, may Or may not matter when there may be more variables to pay attention to.

Zedman99
07-06-13, 14:01
That could work well in Sosua. Except when two to four show up at the same time? And, if they were his favoritas that don't know each other, that could be more of a problem.The chicas only care about the $$$ they'll catfight for 100 pesos-oohh catfight.If they show up together.you take your pick-the other one gets mad.so what.there's a million of them out there.

Frannie
07-06-13, 14:19
With those female guards getting with inmates. They may have high or low esteem, but still we need to know what they are focused on that they respect in the men. Many inmates are smooth talkers. Maybe the female respects his sincerity (or the appearance of it ). He may come off as being very personable, or knowledgeable. And she may respect that in him.I am pretty sure those female prison guards (or teachers or nurses in the prisons) have low self esteem as most of them seem to be fat and ugly. Yes, the inmates are often smooth talkers and may be good looking, so much more desirable as a sexual partner than anyone she could get on the outside. In some ways it is analogous to mongers pairing with attractive young women in Sosua. I know of one case in which a woman (ugly) actually PAID inmates to masturbate so that she could watch.

Don't know how much it has to do with "respect" though. If the inmates treated these women like "the dirt on the sole of their shoe", I think they would be less successful in seducing them. I think it might have a lot to do with sympathy, as it is easy to sympathize with some inmates who succeed in giving the appearance of having been hard done by. I remember one very nice guy who wanted his prostate checkup on his 40th birthday, which he was entitled to. He had been locked up since he was 17 on a home invasion offense and his earliest release date was on his 70th birthday, so he wanted to keep his health in optimum shape ready for going home. It is easy to sympathize with such characters, although one probably is not getting the whole story, when they are telling the female personnel "you are the only one who cares" or "I dreamed about you last night" and memorizing their work schedules, etc.

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2010-05-19/FCCC-clinician-arrested-for-sexual-misconduct-with-resident#.UdgabG0kzbA

Wrx2005
07-06-13, 14:58
Don't know how much it has to do with "respect" though. If the inmates treated these women like "the dirt on the sole of their shoe", I think they would be less successful in seducing them.Your wording tells a story. You said, you think they would be less successful in seducing them. That doesn't suggest they will be UNsuccessful in seducing them. Just that they would be less successful. That suggests some doubt. It also presupposes IMO, that some guards will be successfully seduced, or it could mean certain times they may be successfully seduced. And some guards won't be seduced or at certain times they won't be seduced. But then if we knew how an inmate manifests treating a female guard like "the dirt on the sole of their shoe", also what the guards are attracted to or repulsed by......we might be able to guess or speculate where any respect ( if any ) exists. Also, the success or failure potential of a seduction.

Frannie
07-06-13, 15:27
Overheard in Sosua.

Little girl aged about 5: "Mummy, what are all these women doing in these bars?"

Mummy: "They come here to drink alcohol."

Little Girl: "When I am grown up, I want to come here and drink alcohol!"

Mongerman69
07-06-13, 17:58
Your wording tells a story. You said, you think they would be less successful in seducing them. That doesn't suggest they will be UNsuccessful in seducing them. Just that they would be less successful. That suggests some doubt. It also presupposes IMO, that some guards will be successfully seduced, or it could mean certain times they may be successfully seduced. And some guards won't be seduced or at certain times they won't be seduced. But then if we knew how an inmate manifests treating a female guard like "the dirt on the sole of their shoe", also what the guards are attracted to or repulsed by.we might be able to guess or speculate where any respect ( if any ) exists. Also, the success or failure potential of a seduction.Not sure what you might be auditioning for, but it makes for painful reading. Maybe hoping to get picked up by a blogging site? However, witty you think it may be, it appears more like someone having a conversation, with themselves.

Wrx2005
07-06-13, 18:21
Not sure what you might be auditioning for, but it makes for painful reading. Maybe hoping to get picked up by a blogging site? However, witty you think it may be, it appears more like someone having a conversation, with themselves.I concede that to be true for you or anybody else. But if you read through something that is painful, and more importantly, not necessarily intended for you. Whose to blame for your pain? Since you don't seem sure of what is going on, you shouldn't worry about it.

Trace79
07-06-13, 22:24
i know i have been absent on the forums since last april [and that is how much i just had to read through. 62 pages of almost complete philosophical bs lol. ] on that side-note, i do respect many of your opinions regarding the lifestyle habits of safe mongering practices for the greater good of all. however, within the 62 pages that i just read through this was all i came up with regarding actual reports about sosua. these two newbies [to the forum, as am i, ] that gave awesome reports and also deepimpact [sorry bro, but you are too well respected on this forum for me to regurgitate your words. ]


well i read through these last few pages and thought i'd throw my 2 cents.

a lot of what has been discussed over the last few pages was pretty relevant. although my time in dr was spent mostly in sosua i did have a day over in punta cana & boca chica. breifly on that note, i saw punta cana wasn't as expensive as some have claimed on the forum. i only went with one chica, but she agreed to 1000 pesos and $1 lol.

unfortunately for me the performance was related to the price, no gfe, she wanted to be in and out of there. gave her an extra 300 pesos and another $1 (i had $2 spare i don't use american dollars, so i was offering what i had)

wish i hadn't she gave me a quick kiss on my chest and neck and called that 'freaky freaky'. should have stuck with the 1000 pesos didn't make a difference and she pretty much killed the moment.

boca chica was just as described on here. constant stream of touts, non stop buggin the hell out of me. i ended up chillin with these 2 dominican guys on the night, same age as me, mid twenties. the one thought he was the top dawg, kept tryna fight with other dominicans. they ended up taking me and these other american dudes i met to a club with some chicas, well of the 3 guys 1 was like 'this is too dangerous' and went home with another. the one that stayed with me (as i was a lone wolf) actually volunteered and swapped and rolled with me.

i didn't see much i liked there, we got loked up, i lost the guy, and that same dominican got me dropped home. maybe that other dude still somewhere lost in boca chica fuck knows lol.

so next day i see one chica them guys had introduced me to the night before, she was a good 7. i offered 500 pesos and she said yeh. hell why not. took the number, said i would hit my hotel, change, and call her.

only thing is i really wasn't feeling boca chica, i was hearing lot's of stories, i was there on my own, and apart from them guys i hadn't seen a single other tourist. and my spanish at that time mostly consisted of 'no gracias, no comprende and hola'. had to get the fuck out of here. so i tried her number, but my phone wouldn't call any dominican number, so thought i'd save myself for sosua!

to cut a long story short, if you do not speak spanish, travelling from punta cana to boca chica (well as close as it takes you) by bus, and travelling to sosua from boca chica via santo domingo is definitely something i would not recommend. i actually missed my stop in santo domingo, the driver was cool enough to actually turn back and drive me back round. when i said i couldn't speak spanish they just smiled and shook their heads (there was a woman who was translating with broken english). i offered him 100 pesos tip but he turned it down.

sosua.

i got sosua real late, my taxi couldn't find my place as i was renting a condo. he pulled over and some guy he knew called the number in my email, i settled in and was shown around by the guy i was renting the place off. we headed passions, as i wasn't feeling how the girls in cmp surrounded me, i like to pick wisely with a girl that shows charm and i see we have chemistry.

i found that in passions, girl was an 8 and she spoke english which helped. i told her i would come grab her the next day. so i come back next night, but knowing what the going rate is on the street i reallllllly was not feeling these prices. i don't know if this is a regular occurrence but i negotiated with her and gave her 3000 and we left just after 9pm. sure i know i could of had 3 ladies for this, but like i say, the chemistry is important if i'm going to be hittin it all night. plus i think the price is 5000 if before 10 and after 6. apparently they don't see any of that money until the sunday either, so i counted myself lucky and off we went.

we grabbed some brugal, and some food, she got a motoconcho to bring her some weed. and i mean that wak, full of seeds compressed bush weed lol. we smoked we drank, she was like ok papi come it's time to fuck me. she didon't have to ask twice. now here was a problem. i did ask her what she would do in the club, and she asked me why i am asking these questions as no one asked this before? i just asked about the gfe and daty, which i would normally ask as well, i am paying and as such i told her the same. now the time comes and we are on the bed, she telling me no daty, i was pissed admittedly, as i had asked and she'd brushed it off like it was a said thing, but i was high and drunk so i just didn't have the energy to argue and i wanted that pussy, so we moved on quickly from that. as i'm hittin it i'm hearing all that spanish shit which i came for lol, nothing quite like hearing a dominican chica whisper a sexy language you can't understand in your ear in between the moans and 'mmmm papiiiiii'. so the way i am now smacking it, she's like damn are you trying to make me cum? stupid question really. so now she's rubbing her clit as i'm fucking her, and we both licking her fingers, i'm like damn you taste good lol. so yeah eventually she cums, squeezes my ass and pulls me in deeper makes me start banging her even harder, she became very loud, and i make her cum again. too much of the brugal meant i didn't get my end off, but next morning we had couple more rounds so i got mine.

i don't even know if this report will all fit, and this is the shortened version!

so another night, i remember i was just about call it a day (ain't this always the case?) and so i'm just passing near my street, when i see a brother asking someone about baseball i think? so i ask him if he knew where i could catch the juanma fight next day, he told me many places will probably be showing it if i ask in the bars. so we talk a minute turns out hes from ny and he's here on his own too, think he said he had some friends over in pp. so i'm like ima head mine grab some dinero lets catch up in d'latins he was after some 'para gratis' (he later told me that phrase which came in handy and the one phrase i knew very well lol)

so found him over in d'latins, we started hitting the henny talking to some chicas, but then we decided to roll down to the casino where that club above is. in there i met one of the finest girls of the entire trip. with the worst attitude of the entire trip! she agreed to 1000 pesos, but i ended up losing her. though later on in the story we catch up again.

so me an dude from ny get f'd up, and on the way back we see some chica sitting down, we start chatting to her. she says she will fuck us both for 2000. i'm like nar 1000. we haggle for about 5 mins and she agrees both of us for 1000.

we head back to his i think it was the europa, take her to the room she starts give me bbbj. she then gives same to him, he passes me a rubbber i start hitting it she suckig him, we swap, he now spitting on the puss why putting his hand in it, we swap, he then leches all over her face lol. i beat her till completion. we head out she wana come back to mine for more, well this is what hes telling me, his spanish is so-so but better than mine, he wanted more but she was refusing to let him nut her again. as i'm walking away he calls back to me and starts gesturing to give her nada. i burst out laughing she looks back and he starts styling it out rubbing his head or something, he then calls again and same thing was said, this carried on back and forth a few times, and was genuinely a very funny moment.

i take her back, we fuck couple more times, then i'm like damn i only got 900 pesos here with me, i will catch you later we can go again i give you 1100 we go again. she agrees. i still got the number if anyone wants it pm me.

ok so next night was crazy, and this is where i saw the 'darker' side to these chicas. the same girl i saw in casino was in la rumbas. she was wearing a tight black outfit, and man was she thick in all the right places. i had planned on going on a little walk to try find her. but i guess she found me. so we start talking and we agree to same price. we start drinking, and although i was encouraging her to drink more she was very uptight and really did not want to 'let go'. so we head back mine. she wanted money upfront. i'm like ok cool let's go atm. or i said, take the 500 pesos i have on me now, we can fuck and when we walk back i go atm and give the other 500. she wasn't having it. that latina passion came out, and bwooooy did she flip. i'm like, damn cool down i said we can go atm now? she's like i'm just taking the 500 and going (her english was worse than my spanish). i'm like no you are not. if you go give me back the 500. eventually we agree i can go atm she can wait there (all my stuff was locked away)

but emotions were high, and as i'm walking to the atm i thought you know what? ima draw out shit loads of cash come back and just chuck her out. yes looking back that was a stupid idea. so anyway get atm. 10, 000 pesos please. spits my card out. i'm like wait. huh? let's try this again. no luck. i try the atm across the road. same result. i'm thinking why oh why lord why now? damn! so i can't remember if it was the security guard that tried to help me out, but eventually the policia offered to take me to another atm, ok yet again another dumb idea (blame the alcohol) but i obliged. this machine let me draw out the money (can't remember if i tried for something like 9 this time) i get back in with the policia and they ask me for 600 pesos! i'm like what? nah man you guys are police you ain't supposed to ask me for money. i gave them 50 pesos and they dropped me back. as i walk in through the gate, (ran in more like) i see her at the other gate arguing with the security trying to leave! i run over and i try to explain the situation, if i remember, the other security guard, at the entrance i came through had it, so she's now walking over that way and i follow. she gets the security to give the i'd and i am there trying to explain whats happening but he doesn't understand. so i am saying look, she has 500 pesos, take it off her and you can have 300 just as long as she don't have anything. he was refusing money off me, but then he finally grasps whats gone on and realises she has the money and tells her to give it back to me. i flash my cash at her and flick through all the notes, and tell her it was no bs i was going to pay her. her face drops and she's like ok lets go back. i'm like f*ck you no way, your attitude stinks from the moment i met you. he tells her give me the money, she screws it up and throws it at me and says something about me getting fucked up. i laugh the security laughs and she walks off. (i'm sure many who post on here would know this girl, she has thick hips, she's light skin very pretty. i know she's one of the hardcore ones, obviously at 1000 pesos, her attitude, the fact i didn't have to look for her, and found out she's pretty much on that strip daily, one of the more famous sosua putas)

not one to want to end my night on a low i decide to head back out. not long before i see the same girl! lol! she didn't say much just walked past me with a 'if looks could kill, you would be bathing in sulphuric acid' look. oddly with a little smirk too. hmmm. hahaha.

so anyway can't remember how i got talking to the next chica i met but again, instantly recognisable by the huge blonde afro, and i think she lives above the club that was being refurbished. she wanted 2000 i countered with 1000. she was far far more friendly, and much more humble. but she would not budge less than 1500. while we was still ironing out the finer details she asked for some food for her and her friend. i had already brought them a drink each, but i agreed. i just ordered some fries. next thing you know the guy wants 600 pesos. i laughed and said for what? he starts reeling off all this shit they ordered, chicken wings fries this that there was a lot. i'm like hell no. so the blondies little friend starts going ballistic. you loco you loco. i'm like fuck you! i had enough of this shit now, she picks up a bottle (from what i keep reading seems like the classic sosua puta special power / weapon of choice) i laughed and said i will take the bottle off you, i went to walk away, walked back and threw my fries on the table, she threw them on the floor and i went home. tonight was only going to end badly better to let things blow over.

next early evening i saw the two chicas again (blondie & ms itchy bottle fingers) i had pre decided if i saw them i would offer to buy some food, i was a lone wolf, i did not want any problems or to be recognisable for causing trouble. so i tell the blondie (who was still completely cool with me) tell her friend i can get her some food. she asks for 200 pesos and i hand it over, i ask her if we ok now? she says yes.

so me and the blondie start chillin together, she is very friendly (she's sneaky, knows how to get things bought for her, very sweet and innocent acting) first she wants a coke, then a beer, then when we sitting down a woman comes selling eye liner, she wants that, then her friend (itchy bottle fingers) comes back i get her a drink. all the time acting like butter won't melt. major difference between her and the one that couldn't wait for the other 500 pesos, this one will get return custom, and you will be open to spending your cash, even though the other one should be killing it, i know her lack of people and social skills means she is offering 1000 pesos when she could be asking for 3.

anyway me and blondie finally agreed to 1500 pesos (throughout this i may seem like a cheap mofo, but the whole 2 week vacation cost me nearly $3000 which is a lot for someone like me) i take her back, she is much more open to the daty and gfe which is good. we have a good sex session, i pay her and i walk her out. finito.

i decided from here that i would just stick with the chica from passions, i liked her a lot, we got a long well, and i knew i would have no more problems. it just meant spending a lot of money in comparison!

next night i'm with my passions chica, we had a good night, went d'latins then casino. she didn't want to go d'latins in the first place and when i suggested we go to the club above the casino, (after she won me some money lol) she was again saying no, she said if we go there, there will be trouble, that all the girls here fight over bs. and she didn't want to mark up that pretty face now did she? (her words, we laughed about it).

so as i'm walking out the casino to go home, i see blondie. i'm like hey hello and wave. she asks for 200 pesos! i laugh and keep walking. next thing you know. guess who. itchy bottle fingers! lol man she was so coked up, she made tony look like a rookie. she comes flying up to me, 'give me 2000 pesos' trying to put her hand in my pocket i pushed it away and tried to walk round her, as this was the exact thing the chica i was with was trying to avoid, i didn't hype up, i just tried to walk on. she starts going wild, like a bat with rabies, she starts swinging for me, i grab her arm, twist it back and push her away and told her i do not want to her hurt her. next thing you know this kid, must have been between 8-10 years old, comes up to me with this big white pole. he is there trying to give it me telling me to beat her with it. lol. only in dr i guess? it was after 2am i thought what the hell is he doing here? anyway she then starts trying to fight someone else. we walk off and my chica is telling me how she was saying in spanish that i fucked the blonde one which is her girl! that's why she wanted the money. she told me that they both used to be very attractive, but now she believes they are on crack, and this is the result. she says they are together in a relationship, like i say i am sure people will know who i mean.

policia.

one of the days i met another guy who was from england. he has lived in the dr now for the past 2 years. cool as fuck guy. we obviously shared a lot in common for the reason of where we are both from so arranged to meet up. missed him the first time but another time caught up with him. long story short. we go on his bike, park up by new beach (the new developed part not many know of i think?) have a couple of beers. met some other dominicans, all half american spoke perfect english went private schools. after we had a couple beers we got back on his bike. now before we got there i should note two things. one he had shown me many pictures of people that had died there in road accidents after drinking. he said the law is pretty much not enforced in that respect. pictures with guys still holding their bottles, dead, brains on the floor. not nice. second he had told me he had his bike confirep001ed recently as there is a new traffic police boss or some sh*t. and they are cracking down on those who do not wear a helmet. even though from what i saw nobody did! thirdly he had just stopped of and brought himself some tony m. damn.

so we are cruising a long, i have a glass in my hand of whisky, (we must have stopped somewhere for this but i do not remember where exactly) and obviously neither of us wearing helmets. i see police ahead of us, they slow down, i tell him man feds are in front. i don't know whether he thought i was lying or did not want to believe me but he said no it isn't. i said trust me i swear look police. so he's like ok watch this, starts half speeding past them (maybe he thought they wouldn't notice 2 gringos no helmets drinking on a bike? lol)

they looked straight at us as we went past and i'm like ahhhh fuck they are 100% going to stop us just from that look i can tell, he starts speeding off and i am trying to remind him he's been drinking and i do not want to end up on someone's phone as a picture with my brains on the floor. he gets pretty far up the road and he's like its ok we lost them we lost them. i'm like actually i think this is them now. they go to drive past us, stop, reverse, jump out overly excited. one of them has a gun about as big as me and i'm 6". all i'm thinking is what this dude has on him, and if they find it. what does that mean for me? (my passions chica later told me exactly what that would mean for me)

he had a rucksack on him, so three of them almost tear that off his back straight away. one stays in the car. they seemed only concerned with what was in his bag, they didn't even search me. they start pulling out all these packs, he kinda half grabs them back saying it's for work (i could half follow what they were saying) but he keeps grabbing them again after searching saying 'no what is this? ' luckily the guy in the car (who by the way looked by far the worst one you would want to fuck with) kept calling them over and over saying to leave us. and eventually they did just that. worst thing is dude had all the tony in his pants pocket. it wasn't even hidden. if they had searched him i don't know if i'd be here writing this right now.

moral of the story? well there is no moral. just don't get involved in those things at any time, because of all the times to get stopped by policia in sosua trust it to be then. if i could describe how corrupt these guys looked, especially the one asking what the packs were. hmmm. turns out those packs were bundles of usd as well, showed me when we got back mine, the one he kept grabbing contained $350. the guys dad owns a big lettings agency out there, why he was carrying all that on him he never fully explained.

to conclude, i mostly hung out with the chica from passions from then on. we sometimes did our little out of hours deals which she said could cost her her job. eventually she trusted me enough to take me back to the casa where a lot of the passions girls lived, they kinda grew to like me, threw a party for me on my last day. (well if you call buying themselves a crate of el presidentes and smoking some weed & sheesha a party ha) but yeah they was all like you my nigga, high fives asking when us two getting married haha. she would be cooking for me etc. so i had a littleeee soft spot for them in the end. you know what the crazy thing is? on the day they got paid on the sunday, they were all broke. i saw what they got paid. my chica had been missing days and coming late. plus they had a new uniform sprung on them. all that money i spent. she ended up with 700 pesos! believe me those girls are not living well. boom boom, wake up in someone else's bed, back to work for 10am (okay sometimes they start at 1pm or 4pm etc but still) for a 10-15 hour shift, all week, end up with 700 pesos. as you can imagine, she wasn't happy.

so there you have it, i tried to keep it brief and really there are many more stories to tell. what can i say about sosua? or even the dr? if you have been to thailand, i don't think you can compare. dr is an absolute sh*t hole. considering that fact, its also pretty expensive for what it is. thailand beats it hands down in every way. except probably the most important thing. i definitely find the dr girls a lot more attractive. but then again, i like hispanic girls and light skin black girls. i wish the girls from thailand could trade with dr and i know where my new home would be. ah well a guy can dream eh? dr has put me off latin america, if i am honest, kind of glad i didn't go colombia now. dr is a dangerous country, even if sosua is not so much.

i actually came back feeling i needed a vacation because of that vacation!

if i do go back, yes i'll probably go see my passions chica again. but the thing i would do differently is probably go somewhere like pp for normal girls. i think there is a lot of p*ssy to be had there. once i shook off the lust for that one chic, i saw everywhere i went (aside from sosua where obviously every girl is on you regardless of who you are) for example in airports etc, i was getting crazy attention off the girls there. i think if someone is young and good looking you can probably do very well in dr, there is no need to stay in that hell hole they call sosua.

at least in thailand, you have no drama (maybe they beef up your tab, but nothing you can't laugh about) , everything is cheap as hell, there is many things to do outside of mongering, and it's a safe place to be. hey the women are still pretty hot there too.

hasta la vista sosua!awesome post man! this is what this forum has been lacking. solid reporting on specifics of your trip!


day 1.

arrived via miami to pop at 2 pm. it took perhaps 20-30 minutes to obtain tourist card ($10. 00) and clear customs. once outside of customs, be prepared to be bombarded with all types of silly offers, you want a beer, cambio, straight bullshit street vendors praying on the moment of you're new into this country, new experiences and hey can i take advantage of this mark. that's how i felt the moment i set foot on this rock and my opinion has not changed yet.

my hotel was voramar, run by a dutchman named henke. good guy and has owned the place for i think twenty years. he left (holland) and never came back. this is a little outside of the gringo glutch but it's quiet and secluded. two motorconcho guys sit under tree just outside of hotel and wait for people to step out (3 minute ride to la passions and the glutch) this hotel appears to cater to germans, austrians and dutchman. outside of myself and the canadian that looks like elvis, we would be the only guys outside of europe at this place so far. he has to make his money as an elvis impersonator, if he's not, needs to change his profession.

typical cab ride to sosua is $25, but mine was only $5 difference from typical ride to center of sosua. my ride was $30 us taxi from puerta plata airport to hotel. can't complain, i was hyped up and on the hunt for some tail.

get to hotel, henke was fair and exchanged some pesso's at 40 per dollar as of today, so much better than airport, which was selling at 34 pesos / dollar.

if you like latina's and chicks with a fat ass, this place is for the booty officianado's. i'm about 6'1 and 245 so not a little man but thus far, i've pulled two spinners with phat little asses out of passions and one aggressive ass chica from cmp.

i walked from hotel to la passions in top siders and no socks, which i don't recommend, trying to find a band-aid in this place is like panning for gold.

made it to passions, order a beer. five to seven chica's get the short straw and draw the day shift. a gringo walks in and all eyes are on you buddy, so enjoy the moment. all of the girls are trying to make eye contact, look for the one you want and smile back or motion over, they will be there shortly. two beers later, i take the plunge and pop my dominican cherry. my first of the day was nicole, from santa domingo. afro caribbean and again on the day shift, i close deal by like 3:30 or 4pm. it was nice, she was gentle but the only negative would be she wanted to do cbj, which can be a deal breaker for many of you. i generally require bbj but i needed the extra time, i got this chica jellin and producing a little wetness. i would have popped much sooner had i not received the cbj service. all around good suction and decent service.

the owner at passions, i believe runs a good business. the girls there know what is expected of them. if they slip up or perform outside of clients expectations, there are 5, 000 other chica's coming up that want their spot. i showered and cleaned up, took a stroll down to check out cmp.

cmp appears to be older place, the chica's from what i experienced were way more aggressive here than in passions. an age demographic older, more hardened and mileage on the body was evident with a few. this was the daytime around like 4:30 or 5pm, so slow time for these girls working the day shift (may have been the b team) chomping at the bit, bouncing their ass, whipping their tits out, giving you the peep show of the jj and the whole nine, wanting you to pick them. i order a beer, but they would not stop until you picked one, i really could have picked all four but the fifth one had a pair of man mades and jacked up teeth, so she automatically disqualified.

i chose one, can't remember her name, exotic chick in the face, large titan tetanga's and marginal english. she wanted to session immediately but i wanted to re-charge the battery. they really wouldn't let up, so i thought just your luck chica. you draw a guy who just busted about 30 minutes ago. you want to apply your high pressure sales tactics, guess you have to earn this one honey. i'm not too quick on the trigger, she would have been complaining anyway for the leche but asked for propina after she figured out how hard she had to earn her money. a little cow girl, mish, doggy and finish up with yet another cbj and hj while jiggling the jury to get the judge to drop his load. not sure i'll go back but the curiosity will kill the cat.

ok, on the hunt for a band aid. it was hot and i run into a german just sitting outside of a little market. sipping on a beer and taking a break. i get the blister patched up and off for a little dinner.

i had walked by new garden earlier and went in for a bite. this place always happens to have something going on, so when i had walked by earlier the place was busy. so i thought, let's check the scene now. some little kids birthday party and they must have cleared out all the other chica's and sportsman out of the pool area. anyway, made for a good setting to observe all the street traffic and lady's walking by.

finish dinner, walk back to hotel and i have to overcome my fear of getting on the back of those motorconcho's. those guys are relentless and every single one that drives pass, hit's you up for a ride. i make a joke and say gordo and i need the exercise.

return to room, take a short nap and cool down. need to recharge the battery. my plan was to stop off at passions to check out the evening shift. see the talent in the fish bowl and then head out to dlatins.

passions is a complete time trap, this place is really unbelievable. there just is not enough time in one vacation to do all the chica's any normal person could handle.

i can see the draw of the entire town now, it appears just about every girl is available. some of the daytime street action, i would shy away from, many are extremely young and questionable age range to get caught up. there is just too many other options to consider.

i wish i could have made it to dlatins last night. but i couldn't get passed this beautiful little latina with a cute ass smile and a beautiful ass at la passion's. took kathryn for the evening around 10pm. she was good for two busta's last night and one in the morning. bbbj provider and all around solid performer. again, another good experience and she knows how to deliver. highly recommend this chica if she's still around passion's when you visit. the transient lifestyle many of these chic's live, makes it hard to find the exact one you see or read about. don't worry or stress, another one will be just around the corner, standing in the doorway of a salon and she day's "hola papi".

thoughts.

for me, anymore than three in a day is an excellent day in the life of sosua. it's just too much and i really think after two or three days here, your dick will need some rest at the pace of sosua and the streets. they literally throw the jj at you, and i think whatever your vice and poison you can find it in sosua. i have literally scratched the surface here, but i'm pretty sure i will be back to the dr and sosua.

it's just one of those places, where you can read blog after blog, trip report after trip report. until you pull the trigger, you will never know what's here. you just have to experience it for yourself.another really good report. thank you much for taking the time to give recent updates on sosua!

Trace79
07-06-13, 22:38
Hey, reason of last post is that I'm heading back from 31 July to 8 August. I'll be staying at the Mary Rose. Would love to meet up with anyone on the boards that is going to be there at that time; this is my second trip. Send me a PM or just look for the dude, mid-thrirties, wearing blue surf shorts.

Also, I've read that a few of you have hooked up with a bartender from El Toro. This chica was my last three days in Sosua and she even cried on the last day with tears in her eyes saying "Te Amo," LOL. I'm FB friends with her currently. I don't care about how much "D" she's been getting, but I just want your advise on if I should even let her know I'm coming back to DR. Trying to avoid a scam ya know. She was all of freshly turned 19 years of age last time I was there 6 months ago. Her recent FB pics shoes her having braces. She is a tiny spinner about. 5'3" and maybe 120lbs. Cute as shit too. She wasn't a hardcore puta chica back then [never asked about money at all, ] but things change and she may be different now. Any knowledge about this girl will be greatly appreciated.

I can post pics of her off of FB, but I don't know if this is a wise thing to do....I'm leaving it up to you guys to direct me in this. Sorry for being a newb lol.

Qncterra
07-07-13, 00:03
Hey, reason of last post is that I'm heading back from 31 July to 8 August. I'll be staying at the Mary Rose. Would love to meet up with anyone on the boards that is going to be there at that time; this is my second trip. Send me a PM or just look for the dude, mid-thrirties, wearing blue surf shorts.

Also, I've read that a few of you have hooked up with a bartender from El Toro. This chica was my last three days in Sosua and she even cried on the last day with tears in her eyes saying "Te Amo," LOL. I'm FB friends with her currently. I don't care about how much "D" she's been getting, but I just want your advise on if I should even let her know I'm coming back to DR. Trying to avoid a scam ya know. She was all of freshly turned 19 years of age last time I was there 6 months ago. Her recent FB pics shoes her having braces. She is a tiny spinner about. 5'3" and maybe 120lbs. Cute as shit too. She wasn't a hardcore puta chica back then [never asked about money at all, ] but things change and she may be different now. Any knowledge about this girl will be greatly appreciated.

I can post pics of her off of FB, but I don't know if this is a wise thing to do. I'm leaving it up to you guys to direct me in this. Sorry for being a newb LOL.It's been few years since I was there, but I wouldn't post any pics unless they are okay with it, especially if you like her and she works with the people. You never know when some drunk dude or other will show it to her.

OldKool
07-07-13, 00:29
Having sex with a girl you like is much more fun then sport fucking. Just be real with the girl. I have many girls in my phone who I can call and have good time with. I know the sex is good and the girls are cool. I am a little older and enjoy the GFE when I can get it. You are not going to get much of this from Sosua Putas.


Hey, reason of last post is that I'm heading back from 31 July to 8 August. I'll be staying at the Mary Rose. Would love to meet up with anyone on the boards that is going to be there at that time; this is my second trip. Send me a PM or just look for the dude, mid-thrirties, wearing blue surf shorts.

Also, I've read that a few of you have hooked up with a bartender from El Toro. This chica was my last three days in Sosua and she even cried on the last day with tears in her eyes saying "Te Amo," LOL. I'm FB friends with her currently. I don't care about how much "D" she's been getting, but I just want your advise on if I should even let her know I'm coming back to DR. Trying to avoid a scam ya know. She was all of freshly turned 19 years of age last time I was there 6 months ago. Her recent FB pics shoes her having braces. She is a tiny spinner about. 5'3" and maybe 120lbs. Cute as shit too. She wasn't a hardcore puta chica back then [never asked about money at all, ] but things change and she may be different now. Any knowledge about this girl will be greatly appreciated.

I can post pics of her off of FB, but I don't know if this is a wise thing to do. I'm leaving it up to you guys to direct me in this. Sorry for being a newb LOL.

Camaro1257
07-07-13, 04:32
I understand that both of those are philosophically different options. Trying to figure out which one is better for me.

FYI. It is not $500 / night, it is around $350 / night.The last time I went it was $500.00 per night for 4 days and 3 nights and the web site still post the same fees. The daily fee declines depending how long you stay.

The Mind Bender
07-08-13, 21:33
Hey, reason of last post is that I'm heading back from 31 July to 8 August. I'll be staying at the Mary Rose. Would love to meet up with anyone on the boards that is going to be there at that time; this is my second trip. Send me a PM or just look for the dude, mid-thrirties, wearing blue surf shorts.

Also, I've read that a few of you have hooked up with a bartender from El Toro. This chica was my last three days in Sosua and she even cried on the last day with tears in her eyes saying "Te Amo," LOL. I'm FB friends with her currently. I don't care about how much "D" she's been getting, but I just want your advise on if I should even let her know I'm coming back to DR. Trying to avoid a scam ya know. She was all of freshly turned 19 years of age last time I was there 6 months ago. Her recent FB pics shoes her having braces. She is a tiny spinner about. 5'3" and maybe 120lbs. Cute as shit too. She wasn't a hardcore puta chica back then [never asked about money at all, ] but things change and she may be different now. Any knowledge about this girl will be greatly appreciated.

I can post pics of her off of FB, but I don't know if this is a wise thing to do. I'm leaving it up to you guys to direct me in this. Sorry for being a newb LOL.I'd say call her up.

Once you have established a good relationship with a chica it's the best.

Just don't go "falling in love" and don't let her turn you into a Western Union boyfriend LOL.

As long as you get a good vibe from her there's no reason for you not to rekindle your acquaintance

The Mind Bender
07-08-13, 21:59
Detailing to two types of hoes you're likely to meet in Sosua.

HUNTERS / SHARKS (aggressive type)

*expensive phone.

*catsuit / stripper body suit.

*excessive makeup.

*ridiculously high heels.

*usually travels in packs.

*wants to leave immediately after meeting you.

*eyes are constantly scanning the room (aggressive look)

*patrols up and down the strip.

*lots of attitude and can possibly be dangerous

*will haggle till her last breath





BUNNIES (submissive type)

*cheap phones or no phone at all.

*travels mostly alone or can be found sitting with her bestie.

*stands off in the corner.

*seem overwhelmed by the bar scene.

*look just a bit forlon / shy.

*doesn't dress as flashy as the hunters

*willing to accept almost any offer

DeepMmpactt
07-08-13, 23:04
I'd say call her up.

Once you have established a good relationship with a chica it's the best.

Just don't go "falling in love" and don't let her turn you into a Western Union boyfriend LOL.

As long as you get a good vibe from her there's no reason for you not to rekindle your acquaintanceI totally agree, get in contact with a favorite chica, It's nice to gave a "go to" chica so keeping numbers of great performers, attitudes, etc. Is definitely worth pursuing. It's like trying a new restaurant, and finding the service was "excellent" the food "great" and the overall expierience "wonderful" Why wouldn't you repeat or revisit that restaurant? Most mongers here have a "black book" or kept in touch with "great performers" Manizales911 refered me to a "great performer" Sahira, I referee him to the legendary "Naomi" and they both lived up to the hype"What was a nice surprised was Sahira was a great performer I was with in Sosua, I lost track of her and she was even better this time around.

I have found the more trips, you log the more chicas you will find either sports fucking or possible "GFE" but GFE, probably starts with after a possible sports fucking you was pleasantly surprised with your expierince with her, kind of like a test drive that result in you buying the GFE expierience.

OldKool
07-09-13, 01:08
How a girl looks has nothing to do with how she performs. I have had hard core girls who curled my toes and nice girls who had no clue how to please a man. You pay to play and take your chances. The experience girls are down with the wild stuff. 3somes and all our kinky desires can be fullfiled by the pros. If they like you they will work hard to keep you cumming back. Take time to make the girl comfortable with you and you will be surprised how sweet a hard core girl can be.

I usually look for the sweet innocent type but rarely are the great in the sack. My Hatian girls have been consistently great.


Detailing to two types of hoes you're likely to meet in Sosua.

HUNTERS / SHARKS (aggressive type)

*expensive phone.

*catsuit / stripper body suit.

*excessive makeup.

*ridiculously high heels.

*usually travels in packs.

*wants to leave immediately after meeting you.

*eyes are constantly scanning the room (aggressive look)

*patrols up and down the strip.

*lots of attitude and can possibly be dangerous.

*will haggle till her last breath.

BUNNIES (submissive type)

*cheap phones or no phone at all.

*travels mostly alone or can be found sitting with her bestie.

*stands off in the corner.

*seem overwhelmed by the bar scene.

*look just a bit forlon / shy.

*doesn't dress as flashy as the hunters.

*willing to accept almost any offer

Mongerman69
07-09-13, 01:56
Detailing to two types of hoes you're likely to meet in Sosua.

HUNTERS / SHARKS (aggressive type)

*expensive phone.

*catsuit / stripper body suit.

*excessive makeup.

*ridiculously high heels.

*usually travels in packs.

*wants to leave immediately after meeting you.

*eyes are constantly scanning the room (aggressive look)

*patrols up and down the strip.

*lots of attitude and can possibly be dangerous.

*will haggle till her last breath.

BUNNIES (submissive type)

*cheap phones or no phone at all.

*travels mostly alone or can be found sitting with her bestie.

*stands off in the corner.

*seem overwhelmed by the bar scene.

*look just a bit forlon / shy.

*doesn't dress as flashy as the hunters.

*willing to accept almost any offerThought the comments were pretty good. Also, I've had some outstanding experiences, with the shy types. I find they're the ones where, once you help them get comfortable, they open up like an ocean pearl.

EddyCarter33
07-09-13, 05:30
I know I have been absent on the forums since last April [and that is how much I just had to read through. 62 pages of almost complete philosophical BS LOL. ] On that side-note, I do respect many of your opinions regarding the lifestyle habits of safe mongering practices for the greater good of all. However, within the 62 pages that I just read through this was all I came up with regarding actual reports about Sosua. These two newbies [to the forum, as am I, ] that gave awesome reports and also Deepimpact [sorry bro, but you are too well respected on this forum for me to regurgitate your words. ]

Awesome post man! This is what this forum has been lacking. Solid reporting on specifics of your trip!

Another really good report. Thank you much for taking the time to give recent updates on Sosua!I just tried to document what I was doing at night, or at breakfast the next morning. Just put it all in the I-Phone notes section. All the other noise of the forum, tends to crush all the quality content. Easier to just ignore everything and just post what you're doing. This could be an enormous time suck, trying to respond to everyone's one upmanship.

Enjoy your stay, have fun and be safe.

Marc Anthony
07-09-13, 05:43
Detailing to two types of hoes you're likely to meet in Sosua.

HUNTERS / SHARKS (aggressive type)

*expensive phone.

*catsuit / stripper body suit.

*excessive makeup.

*ridiculously high heels.

*usually travels in packs.

*wants to leave immediately after meeting you.

*eyes are constantly scanning the room (aggressive look)

*patrols up and down the strip.

*lots of attitude and can possibly be dangerous.

*will haggle till her last breath.

BUNNIES (submissive type)

*cheap phones or no phone at all.

*travels mostly alone or can be found sitting with her bestie.

*stands off in the corner.

*seem overwhelmed by the bar scene.

*look just a bit forlon / shy.

*doesn't dress as flashy as the hunters.

*willing to accept almost any offerLook around the bar. If you can't spot the bunny, you're the bunny.

The Mind Bender
07-09-13, 20:34
Thought the comments were pretty good. Also, I've had some outstanding experiences, with the shy types. I find they're the ones where, once you help them get comfortable, they open up like an ocean pearl.That my game.

I make the chicas laugh and feel comfortable so they can let out that inner freak.


How a girl looks has nothing to do with how she performs. I have had hard core girls who curled my toes and nice girls who had no clue how to please a man. You pay to play and take your chances. The experience girls are down with the wild stuff. 3somes and all our kinky desires can be fullfiled by the pros. If they like you they will work hard to keep you cumming back. Take time to make the girl comfortable with you and you will be surprised how sweet a hard core girl can be.

I usually look for the sweet innocent type but rarely are the great in the sack. My Hatian girls have been consistently great.Well it was more of a report on attitudes and tendencies than sexual prowess.

Innocent type do require more coaching butgive great GFE which is what I'm mostly about in Sosua

Mr Gogo
07-10-13, 01:45
How a girl looks has nothing to do with how she performs. I have had hard core girls who curled my toes and nice girls who had no clue how to please a man. You pay to play and take your chances. The experience girls are down with the wild stuff. 3somes and all our kinky desires can be fullfiled by the pros. If they like you they will work hard to keep you cumming back. Take time to make the girl comfortable with you and you will be surprised how sweet a hard core girl can be.

I usually look for the sweet innocent type but rarely are the great in the sack. My Hatian girls have been consistently great.I agree, Haitianas are great fuckers but some guys know this and don't want their sexual egos challenged. BTW just got back from a place that was completely out of touch with modern times. No internet, no phone only good people. I look at how blessed my life is and it makes me not take it for granted.

I've got 200 emails waiting on me and one of them was from a dude who was in Sosua for the 4th of July weekend. The rumor was a few celebrities were in town but I'm not going to post about that. Don't want the racists getting started again. Fellas if you are only doing Sosua you are missing out on some great spots in the DR. Challenge yourself, pussy is everywhere in the DR. When I first started in this sport girls loved taking guys to the campo. The challenge is going there and humbling yourself but that would be to much to ask of oneself.

CkNice11
07-10-13, 05:22
Hello fellow mongers,,

I just graduated college and plan on doing some mongering for a graduation gift to myself LOL anyway I think I want to monger in sosua because I'm hearing Rio is no longer the place to go I like big bootys the bigger the better but when I see pics of chicks in sosua there always skinny whats the chances of finding a chick built like this http://www.xvideos.com/video5153934/angie_love_my_favorite_dominican Or like one of this brazil chicks with huge butts thanks ahead of time fxellow mongers.

Frannie
07-10-13, 18:44
Hello fellow mongers just graduated college and plan on doing some mongering for a graduation gift to myself LOL anyway I think I want to monger in sosua because I'm hearing Rio is no longer the place to go I like big bootys the bigger the better but when I see pics of chicks in sosua there always skinny whats the chances of finding a chick built like this.

http://www.xvideos.com/video5153934/angie_love_my_favorite_dominican

Or like one of this brazil chicks with huge butts thanks ahead of time fxellow mongersI didn't have time to look at your video and these sites are often infected with viruses, but you will be pleased to know that there is no shortage of fat chicks in Sosua.

You might enjoy this, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3lKbMBab18

Charles Pooter
07-10-13, 22:49
. you will be pleased to know that there is no shortage of fat chicks in Sosua.You can say that again.

This may sound stupid, but I honestly believe that North Coast dominicanas have got noticeably fatter just in the eight years I have been coming to the DR. Obviously there can be significant changes in one generation as people get urbanized and do less physical work, walk less than they would in the campo, and eat less natural food and more imported junk food, but I wouldn't expect that to show in just eight years.

The explanation could be that, because of the changing demographic of Sosua visitors, more fat girls are coming out of the woodwork to fill a new demand who wouldn't have stood much chance previously of netting one of the original German, French or Italian clients, who you rarely see with fat chicas.

Not a complaint, just an observation. Fat girls need love too and they certainly need pesos.

Don Antonio
07-11-13, 03:13
In your opinion what is the demographics that is attracting all these fat chics?

Obviously, not the German, French, or Italians. Per your post. And I don't think it is the Canadians either.


The explanation could be that, because of the changing demographic of Sosua visitors, more fat girls are coming out of the woodwork to fill a new demand who wouldn't have stood much chance previously of netting one of the original German, French or Italian clients, who you rarely see with fat chicas.

Zedman99
07-11-13, 03:36
In your opinion what is the demographics that is attracting all these fat chics?

Obviously, not the German, French, or Italians. Per your post. And I don't think it is the Canadians either.You know the answer. But what I find amusing is these "chicas" are gettin' the $$$ from guys.and they walk around like their the hottest thing goin'-They're Not in my "chica" market so it really doesn't effect me-To Each his own I guess.

ConquerorVal
07-11-13, 04:01
I like big bootys the bigger the better.chicks with huge buttsGet married, have kids, stick around and you'll have a fat chick before you know it (your wife that is).

CkNice11
07-11-13, 05:10
Sorry fellas wrong video I don't like fat chicks I like chicks with little waist and big butts like this chick http://www.xvideos.com/video537334/crazy_big_brazilian_booty-_sara Can I find some of them in the dominican I heard its alot in Rio but because of new the world cup and olympics there not exactly monger friendly anymore so I wanted chicks like this and by the way that youtube video was actually hilarious.

Mr Enternational
07-11-13, 07:13
The poster said he wanted a chick with a big ass. He never said he wanted a fat chick. How are you guys equating the two? I do understand it to be a cultural thing though. To one group if a woman has a big ass then she is considered fat. To another group a big ass is just a big ass and it is independent of her overall body structure.

DrPirate88
07-11-13, 07:29
The poster said he wanted a chick with a big ass. He never said he wanted a fat chick. How are you guys equating the two?From the looks of that video she is a little on the heavy side LOL that's why I guess these guys were saying he want a fat chica. And bro your not going to have no problem finding phat asses in Sousa or fat woman but I myself is a huge fan of fat asses and trust me there is enough to feed the needy!

Frannie
07-11-13, 15:17
Sorry fellas wrong video I don't like fat chicks I like chicks with little waist and big butts like this chick.

http://www.xvideos.com/video537334/crazy_big_brazilian_booty-_sara

Can I find some of them in the dominican I heard its alot in Rio but because of new the world cup and olympics there not exactly monger friendly anymore so I wanted chicks like this and by the way that youtube video was actually hilarious.Large butts, thighs, and hips tend to go together as they are the result of high estrogen levels, and may occur in women who are taking birth control pills or depot provera injections for contraception. See picture below.

http://amebor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/access3.jpg

You will not find a lot like this (see below) in Sosua or anywhere else without the aid of Photoshop, however there are plenty of women in Sosua with full buttocks similar to the woman above and I am sure you will enjoy yourself.

http://jobsjusticedreams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hottentot-fw.png

This is interesting too:

http://blackgirlsguidetoweightloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/retouched.jpg

D Cups
07-11-13, 15:29
Hi Guys, what about huge breasts on a small frame? That's what I like. Miosotis style.

Ath Trainer
07-11-13, 16:04
Large butts, thighs, and hips tend to go together as they are the result of high estrogen levels, and may occur in women who are taking birth control pills or depot provera injections for contraception. See picture below.

http://amebor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/access3.jpg

You will not find a lot like this (see below) in Sosua or anywhere else without the aid of Photoshop, however there are plenty of women in Sosua with full buttocks similar to the woman above and I am sure you will enjoy yourself.

http://jobsjusticedreams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hottentot-fw.png

This is interesting too:

http://blackgirlsguidetoweightloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/retouched.jpgFemales tend to put extra wt on in their hips and thighs. Men in their bellies. First place to go, last place to leave.

Certain cultures seem to have certain features. Aa woman, brazilians, dominicans seem to have bigger gleuts. Asians, not so much.

As far as lg breasts on thin woman, harder to find naturally. Breast tissue is fat.

Skinny girls with bit breasts are usually fake, but not always. Female body builders who are usually very lean, get implants to replace lost boobs.

Pregnant womans breasts enlarge for feeding the baby, and tend to dry out / sag after.

Frannie
07-11-13, 17:43
Large butts, thighs, and hips tend to go together as they are the result of high estrogen levels, and may occur in women who are taking birth control pills or depot provera injections for contraception. See picture below.

http://amebor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/access3.jpg

You will not find a lot like this (see below) in Sosua or anywhere else without the aid of Photoshop, however there are plenty of women in Sosua with full buttocks similar to the woman above and I am sure you will enjoy yourself.

http://jobsjusticedreams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hottentot-fw.png

This is interesting too:

http://blackgirlsguidetoweightloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/retouched.jpgHaving done a little more research on this, it appears that it is quite common to perform plastic surgery operations and implants to improve the size and contour of the buttocks, and in fact there is even a procedure called the "Brazilian butt lift" that is very popular in Brazil. I don't think you will find many girls in Sosua who have had butt surgery or taken steroids to grow their gluteal muscles, but there are still plenty of shapely butts and thighs as a result of heredity, climbing stairs, and doing plenty of walking up steep inclines. The biggest butts are however found on the biggest girls.

TomJackin
07-11-13, 20:35
The poster said he wanted a chick with a big ass. He never said he wanted a fat chick. How are you guys equating the two? I do understand it to be a cultural thing though. To one group if a woman has a big ass then she is considered fat. To another group a big ass is just a big ass and it is independent of her overall body structure.Like this one?

Mongerman69
07-11-13, 20:56
Like this one?So, he's just interested in a fat ass?

RioMeEver
07-11-13, 21:38
Hi Guys, what about huge breasts on a small frame? That's what I like. Miosotis style.IMHO,

The DR is the big natural titty capital of the Western Hemisphere.

Combo
07-11-13, 23:59
Like this one?That's just about perfect. I wouldn't consider it big or small, just shapely.

Don Antonio
07-12-13, 02:02
That's destined to become a Classic.


Get married, have kids, stick around and you'll have a fat chick before you know it (your wife that is).

Mattco
07-13-13, 17:20
long time reader. 1st time poster. the site has helped travel all the way from east africa to asia and down to latin-america. boy, those trips would have been a bummer if i hadn't came across this forum. i'm heading to sousa in a few weeks and want to know what's the likely hood of grabbing a 9 or 10 out of classicos or anywhere. i like to aim high because my theory is if i travel half-way around the world i want to get a chick i clearly would have trouble getting very easily in the states. if i pay, i want to pay for the best, however this doesn't always translate to bed performance. the pics of chicas i've seen in the photo gallery just don't raise to the level of chicas in costa rica or colombia. i want to know if everyone is playing with their cards close to their chest (hiding pics) or dr just doesn't have stunners like colombia.

thanks gents,

also, i have two really good reports i will post for manila and cr.you just have to look hard my friend. if your looking for a true 9-10 you may need to go to crystals in puerto plata. this is a strip joint with some real stunners. you can take the chica upstairs, ala la passions or take her home. i went once and noticed after they closed that they hung outside waiting to be approached. my understanding was it was less than inside. but you also may lose out on the one that way. i went to a few local clubs after and saw a few of them there. they were waving at us and just dying to be scooped up.

have fun.

Marc Anthony
07-13-13, 20:56
http://www.********/news.php#8

DR1 is referencing a Dominican report that the government has shut down 16 Massage parlors in Sosua in a move to discourage sex tourism. Which fits with the AG's campaign to project an anti-sex tourism image. Anybody there notice anything? Much like drug busts I suspect these efforts will target the competition of the well connected.

Rahsta
07-13-13, 20:56
Hello fellow mongers,

I just graduated college and plan on doing some mongering for a graduation gift to myself LOL anyway I think I want to monger in sosua because I'm hearing Rio is no longer the place to go I like big bootys the bigger the better but when I see pics of chicks in sosua there always skinny whats the chances of finding a chick built like this.

http://www.xvideos.com/video5153934/angie_love_my_favorite_dominican

Or like one of this brazil chicks with huge butts thanks ahead of time fxellow mongers.Rio is still the place for big booties. In DR if you see a big booty, it won't look that nice naked. Rio is the place to go. If you never been to Rio, how can you miss what you never seen or had.

Rahsta
07-13-13, 21:35
Sorry fellas wrong video I don't like fat chicks I like chicks with little waist and big butts like this chick.

http://www.xvideos.com/video537334/crazy_big_brazilian_booty-_sara

Can I find some of them in the dominican I heard its alot in Rio but because of new the world cup and olympics there not exactly monger friendly anymore so I wanted chicks like this and by the way that youtube video was actually hilarious.Brazil is more monger friendly than D. R. And Brazil has more mongering spots.

You will be hard press to find a chick like Sara in Sosua.

OldKool
07-13-13, 21:48
I have seen every kind of but there is in Sosua and SD. The DR has all you can handle you just have to pick what you want.


Brazil is more monger friendly than D. R. And Brazil has more mongering spots.

You will be hard press to find a chick like Sara in Sosua.

Frannie
07-13-13, 22:58
http://www.********/news.php#8

DR1 is referencing a Dominican report that the government has shut down 16 Massage parlors in Sosua in a move to discourage sex tourism. Which fits with the AG's campaign to project an anti-sex tourism image. Anybody there notice anything? Much like drug busts I suspect these efforts will target the competition of the well connected.Appears to be true in that they have closed down unlicensed massage parlours staffed by Haitianas, though Salon Belkis is still open. The reason given in the report is that these places were unlicensed and did not meet hygiene standards, rather than a clamp down on sex tourism, though it may amount to the same thing in the end. Signs are posted saying "Clausurado. Secretario de Estado de Tourismo."

Rahsta
07-13-13, 23:11
I have seen every kind of but there is in Sosua and SD. The DR has all you can handle you just have to pick what you want.But Brazil has more. DR has "suave poppi chicas","did you leche chicas" and " starfish chicas". Rio has none of that shit.

Orgasmico
07-14-13, 02:03
But Brazil has more.I've never met anyone that has been to both Brazil and the DR numerous times and thought the DR had better looking women. In fact, when I've seen a Brazil vet asked that question while in the DR they always give you this incredulous look like they can't even believe you are asking that question.

Trace79
07-14-13, 06:59
On Facebook I saw my bartender friend / novia from El Toro on FB with some douce wearing an AFFLICTION T-Shirt! WTF? I thought her and I were tight! Like. I was the only one? . [sad eyes. ] It's not that she is taking vitamin D' from elsewhere, it's that she's taking it from a douche wearing an Affliction shirt. 'sigh. '. And I thought she was better than that. I thought she loved me. [remembrance of our last night together with tears on face with words speaking "Te Amo," LOL! Well at least at this point I know that I have zero pressure to hang with her and at the very least treat her as a sport fuck [like she isn't one already. ]

BTW, do you guys think it would be okay to put up pics of her on this site with little regard to a scam? I'm still paranoid about that shit. The pics I would post she would know from FB and might set me up in a few weeks when I arrive for my next trip.

Sounding more paranoid than usual but I've been RTFF blah!

Trace79
07-14-13, 07:13
I had a friend request on Facebook from a random DR Chica from the Puerta Plata area that I have no idea who she is. Apparently she is friends with a girl I hooked up with and am friends on FB with. Could this be a scam? She has zero friend relation to my "novia" from Sosua. I haven't accepted the invite and in-fact disregarded the whole matter. However, I am paranoid about all the scams going on these days and I'm damn sure I'll take every precaution to avoid one. Could This girl have gotten my info from the FB chica I am friends with and trying to pull a fast one. It all seems a bit shady LOL.

Combo
07-14-13, 08:49
I've never met anyone that has been to both Brazil and the DR numerous times and thought the DR had better looking women. In fact, when I've seen a Brazil vet asked that question while in the DR they always give you this incredulous look like they can't even believe you are asking that question.As has been discussed on here many times, Brasil is a much better destination than the DR. So what? It's also way more expensive and usually requires an overnight flight and they speak a more difficult language. So when it comes down to it, the DR may make more sense for alot of us on this board.

The earlier poster will find plenty of nice big booty's in Sosua.

Orgasmico
07-14-13, 09:41
Brasil is a much better destination than the DR.I've been to Sosua numerous times, in fact, I passed through in May, June, and just last week to give you an idea. I'm pretty familiar with the good and bad in Sosua so I can understand how you feel. I'm glad Sosua works well for you. Good luck!

Ath Trainer
07-14-13, 11:29
As has been discussed on here many times, Brasil is a much better destination than the DR. So what? It's also way more expensive and usually requires an overnight flight and they speak a more difficult language. So when it comes down to it, the DR may make more sense for alot of us on this board.

The earlier poster will find plenty of nice big booty's in Sosua.I think brazilian girls are sexier on the whole. Brazil is harder to go to, more expensive for girls, and language barrier is bigger. Will stict to my USA brazilian girls for now.

Fb girl may have seen you on her friends page and just want to meet another gringo, and see what comes from it. Many will friend anybody. I have been friended by strange sosua and pp girls who are friends of new garden on fb.

Orgasmico
07-14-13, 12:32
News Report on DR Prostitution http://youtu.be/5ZEGbEe3VKo

Frannie
07-14-13, 13:44
Appears to be true in that they have closed down unlicensed massage parlours staffed by Haitianas, though Salon Belkis is still open. The reason given in the report is that these places were unlicensed and did not meet hygiene standards, rather than a clamp down on sex tourism, though it may amount to the same thing in the end. Signs are posted saying "Clausurado. Secretario de Estado de Tourismo."16 seems like a large number and I can barely think of 16 massage parlors in all of Sosua even including ones that formerly existed and closed down or moved, like Salon Joliette, a couple of doors down from the small Supermercado Playero, which closed a couple of weeks ago and moved to somewhere near the beach (or so I was told.)

The last line of the report in Spanish said that some of them were "disguised" as "places of entertainment". I don't know what this refers to. Maybe someone else has an idea.

"El informe agrega que entre los negocios cerrados por las autoridades se encuentran algunos que operaban disfrazados de centros de diversión."

Riky Rapido
07-14-13, 14:01
I had a friend request on Facebook from a random DR Chica from the Puerta Plata area that I have no idea who she is. Apparently she is friends with a girl I hooked up with and am friends on FB with. Could this be a scam? She has zero friend relation to my "novia" from Sosua. I haven't accepted the invite and in-fact disregarded the whole matter. However, I am paranoid about all the scams going on these days and I'm damn sure I'll take every precaution to avoid one. Could This girl have gotten my info from the FB chica I am friends with and trying to pull a fast one. It all seems a bit shady LOL.The answer is simple, these girls don't have jobs and need money, they will trade sex for money. Most of them are so called non-pro's, what ever that means, So, add them as a 'friend', check out their photos and friends, and get in the game, why go to Sosua when it is all here in Puerto Plata? ! , and cheaper in the long run, support the local economy, it's fun. Take the chica to a casita on the malecon for a Presidente, maybe something to eat, it's nicer here than Sosua.

OldKool
07-14-13, 17:19
We have all the control in the relationship. They want the cash and will do every thing possible so we will pay them. There is nothing to be afraid of.


The answer is simple, these girls don't have jobs and need money, they will trade sex for money. Most of them are so called non-pro's, what ever that means, So, add them as a 'friend', check out their photos and friends, and get in the game, why go to Sosua when it is all here in Puerto Plata? ! , and cheaper in the long run, support the local economy, it's fun. Take the chica to a casita on the malecon for a Presidente, maybe something to eat, it's nicer here than Sosua.

Orgasmico
07-15-13, 00:32
Looks like there were some NBA ballers in Sosua recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WBpKyuNV-8

OldKool
07-15-13, 04:15
That video is why I love Sosua. Sexy young girls, the beach and food. So different from the lives we live here. I can not wait to go back.


Looks like there were some NBA ballers in Sosua recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WBpKyuNV-8

Zedman99
07-15-13, 18:29
Looks like there were some NBA ballers in Sosua recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WBpKyuNV-8Did you get their autographs? Gee Wilikers and I missed it! Gosh Darn!

SavePros321
07-16-13, 01:03
So I take it from the July 4th video that they fired up Clasicos for this special occasion?

I also like how some of the dudes had their backs turned towards the camera, lol. I'm guessing they told the girlfriend or wife they were on a "fishing trip".

Orgasmico
07-16-13, 01:57
I also like how some of the dudes had their backs turned towards the camera, lol. I'm guessing they told the girlfriend or wife they were on a "fishing trip".There was a monger who told his wife he was doing volunteer work and he actually did one day of volunteer work in a week and he took plenty of pics to show his wife. He was also there for a wedding because his buddy wound up marrying a Sosua puta that he got turned onto by one of his boys that stroked her.

Doker44
07-16-13, 07:23
So I take it from the July 4th video that they fired up Clasicos for this special occasion?

I also like how some of the dudes had their backs turned towards the camera, LOL. I'm guessing they told the girlfriend or wife they were on a "fishing trip".The special occasion was Omega had a show there. The rumor all weekend was that Lebron James was in town with a few others. Every expat and gringo was laughing about the rumor, from listening to a few of the Dominicans you thought he was going to come strolling down the strip. At the end of the day if you didn't know either was going on you would of never noticed anything different.

The Mind Bender
07-16-13, 19:23
Ok so what are some good mongering alternatives to Sosua?

I've been there 3 time before and I think I might try someplace new on my next trip to DR.

Someplace where speaking Spanish isn't necessary and relevantly safe

SavePros321
07-16-13, 20:15
Ok so what are some good mongering alternatives to Sosua?

I've been there 3 time before and I think I might try someplace new on my next trip to DR.

Someplace where speaking Spanish isn't necessary and relevantly safeCosta Rica. Probably not a "good alternative", but a (non-Spanish speaking) alternative nonetheless.

If you are trying to stay in the DR, then Blackbeards and FOD are your only other options.

Outside of Sosua you are on your own.

OldKool
07-16-13, 20:23
Black Beards and FOD both have many fans. English is not required and food and drink are good. If you like living in a working girl house you will be very happy. A fair variety of and activity. If you are tired of Sosua this could be a good alternative.


Ok so what are some good mongering alternatives to Sosua?

I've been there 3 time before and I think I might try someplace new on my next trip to DR.

Someplace where speaking Spanish isn't necessary and relevantly safe

Bravo
07-16-13, 20:43
The special occasion was Omega had a show there. The rumor all weekend was that Lebron James was in town with a few others. Every expat and gringo was laughing about the rumor, from listening to a few of the Dominicans you thought he was going to come strolling down the strip. At the end of the day if you didn't know either was going on you would of never noticed anything different.Who ever the promoter of the parties was, he is smart fucking guy. He is the one who put the rumor out that Lebron and few other members of the Heat were in Sosua. Girls were coming out of the woodwork because they really thought he was in town. Great way to make money!

The Mind Bender
07-16-13, 22:33
Black Beards and FOD both have many fans. English is not required and food and drink are good. If you like living in a working girl house you will be very happy. A fair variety of and activity. If you are tired of Sosua this could be a good alternative.Thank OldKool but I prefer to "hunt"

I might check out FOD for a day but I've subscribed to the BB newsletter and non of the girls looked appealing

OldKool
07-16-13, 23:05
I like hunting as well but if no habla espanol tiene un grande problema. The pictures do not do the girls justice. That said Sosua is the promise land for guys like you.


Thank OldKool but I prefer to "hunt"

I might check out FOD for a day but I've subscribed to the BB newsletter and non of the girls looked appealing

The Mind Bender
07-16-13, 23:09
I like hunting as well but if no habla espanol tiene un grande problema. The pictures do not do the girls justice. That said Sosua is the promise land for guys like you.Man those first 10 secs of that 4th of July video made me "HOme sick" for Sosua LOL

OldKool
07-17-13, 00:35
So true. It is awesome to be somewhere you can have gorgeous women all over you. We are stars there. When I get home and remember the girls I turned down. It makes me crazy. The best part is you feel so normal there. 50 plus guys are suppose to be banging 20 year old girls.


Man those first 10 secs of that 4th of July video made me "HOme sick" for Sosua LOL

Orgasmico
07-17-13, 02:04
Ok so what are some good mongering alternatives to Sosua?

I've been there 3 time before and I think I might try someplace new on my next trip to DR.

Someplace where speaking Spanish isn't necessary and relevantly safeRio, Panama, Costa Rica, Angeles City, Pattaya, Curacao, Tijuana, etc.

The Mind Bender
07-17-13, 04:31
So true. It is awesome to be somewhere you can have gorgeous women all over you. We are stars there. When I get home and remember the girls I turned down. It makes me crazy. The best part is you feel so normal there. 50 plus guys are suppose to be banging 20 year old girls.Sosua is the ultimate equalizer, a place perfectly calibrated to men's desires.

And unlike the US the women know how to treat a dude well.

I got two 19 year old dimes and 1 jacuzzi lined up for my next trip.

Chris Long
07-17-13, 06:43
Will be in town tomorrow until late next week, any one going to be around.

Chris

Orgasmico
07-17-13, 12:14
More of what the future holds for Sosua.

http://youtu.be/uLhN6-gc34w

SavePros321
07-17-13, 13:17
More of what the future holds for Sosua.

http://youtu.be/uLhN6-gc34wYep, we spent almost a week on this one back in March or April. One of the guys from the video is still stuck in the DR because one of the chicas in the video went to the police on him.

Zedman99
07-17-13, 13:37
Yep, we spent almost a week on this one back in March or April. One of the guys from the video is still stuck in the DR because one of the chicas in the video went to the police on him.-In time more punks and drunks will be there I won't mind ==spend a ton BRO-- keeps the price low for me- -besides once enough of them get tossed in jail the place will be good again---Are you serious ??? One still in the jail and his BRO'S left him to rot. --------LMFAO

SavePros321
07-17-13, 14:32
Are you serious ??? One still in the jail and his BRO'S left him to rot. --------LMFAOHe's no longer in jail because his family paid 60,000RD for his bail, but they took his passport so he can't leave the DR until they finish their "investigation" (a*k*a extort more money from you until we bleed you dry). Supposedly he is living with his Dominican "girlfriend".

Mr Gogo
07-17-13, 14:35
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Zedman99
07-17-13, 16:00
He's no longer in jail because his family paid 60,000RD for his bail, but they took his passport so he can't leave the DR until they finish their "investigation" (a*k*a extort more money from you until we bleed you dry). Supposedly he is living with his Dominican "girlfriend".-You know when I hear these stories I have to believe that sometimes its not "extortion" as you say. Alot of guys feel they can do "ANYTHING" they want here and are untouchable. Been goin' quite awhile.never seen nor had any problems with the authorities.

Bravo
07-17-13, 16:26
He's no longer in jail because his family paid 60,000RD for his bail, but they took his passport so he can't leave the DR until they finish their "investigation" (a*k*a extort more money from you until we bleed you dry). Supposedly he is living with his Dominican "girlfriend".He has his passport, he can leave whenever he wants to. The problem is, his girlfriend signed for him to be released. So he is afraid that if he runs back to America, that the authorities will go after her. We tried to explain that "the police don't go after poor people" but he insists on staying in Sosua until the investigation is over.

ForceSteeler
07-17-13, 16:46
Yep, we spent almost a week on this one back in March or April. One of the guys from the video is still stuck in the DR because one of the chicas in the video went to the police on him.I did not know you can go to jail because you got a couple of girls in your video?

DeezKnuts
07-17-13, 22:42
For all the guys that read Spanish, apparently even some of the locals are getting tired of the scams in Sosua. Be careful out there.

http://www.detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2708-denuncian-se-asocian-prostitutas-policias-y-abogados-para-extorsionar-a-turistas-simulando-violencia-de-genero

Buscemi
07-17-13, 23:11
I did not know you can go to jail because you got a couple of girls in your video?This is not Kansas, unless you have a model release signed, it is very easy to be extorted.

NOT a very brilliant idea to take pictures / video and share on the WWW.

Some guy had a very expensive vacation about 5 years ago for posting pictures of a chica, if I recall it cost him $US10K for a "Get out of Jail card" with attorney fees.

Charles Pooter
07-17-13, 23:40
Some guy had a very expensive vacation about 5 years ago for posting pictures of a chica, if I recall it cost him $US10K for a "Get out of Jail card" with attorney fees.Ah yes, the infamous Tittytwister saga.

Never in the field of mongering have so many naked chica pics and videos been taken off the internet in so few days. A certain other site was hampered for days by all the frenzied activity. And it has never been the same since.

OldKool
07-18-13, 00:46
That was one spot on party \. Naked women every where. That is an amazing good time. You need video cause nobody back home will believer it.

Orgasmico
07-18-13, 00:52
Good article about how putas in Sosua extort money from gringo tourists

http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2708-denuncian-se-asocian-prostitutas-policias-y-abogados-para-extorsionar-a-turistas-simulando-violencia-de-genero

Sosua. A citizen reported the afternoon of Tuesday the existence of a mafia among prostitutes, police and lawyers who are associated to extort foreign tourists visiting this city, pretending that they have exercised physical violence against women offering sexual services.

Manuel Brito who serves as tour guide, among other things, reported to www.detrasdelrumor.com, that last Thursday at about 1:00 am they were next to two American citizens walking in front of a bar in the Clisante Pedro Street, several women approached him and offered sexual services to their friends, one of them after sharing some conversations turned down the offer of a young prostitute under whom he identified as Katherine Perez, prompting an attack by the chica.

Brito said the puta took a bottle and broke two of the lights to the guys jeep, and no police helped him. He went to the police station and was himself detained. Later the chica shows up with an officer and files a complaint.

The police offered attorneys to the American and told them that he would otherwise have a serious problem and would go to jail. In the early hours of the morning came the lawyers called by the police and offered him freedom for $ 2,500. Trying to scare the American and warning him that he would go to jail. This offer was rejected and after some legal proceedings he was able to get out of the situation.

Manuel Brito, said these actions are performed very often in this city against tourists and described as a plague of prostitutes, police and lawyers to destroy tourism in this city and nobody does anything.

Bkgee
07-18-13, 00:54
He's no longer in jail because his family paid 60,000RD for his bail, but they took his passport so he can't leave the DR until they finish their "investigation" (a*k*a extort more money from you until we bleed you dry). Supposedly he is living with his Dominican "girlfriend".They didn't take his passport.

Yes he paid some money, but it wasn't 60,000 pesos.

Oh yeah, he is home, for about a month now, He called 2 times already since he got back.

I love some of the bullShit on this board, LOL!

Get your facts straight first before you post, SMDH.

SavePros321
07-18-13, 01:11
You need video cause nobody back home will believer it.WRONG!

What makes you think that you have to go out of your way to convince anybody of anything? This ain't high school!

SavePros321
07-18-13, 01:13
Good article about how putas in Sosua extort money from gringo tourists.

http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2708-denuncian-se-asocian-prostitutas-policias-y-abogados-para-extorsionar-a-turistas-simulando-violencia-de-genero

Sosua. A citizen reported the afternoon of Tuesday the existence of a mafia among prostitutes, police and lawyers who are associated to extort foreign tourists visiting this city, pretending that they have exercised physical violence against women offering sexual services.

Manuel Brito who serves as tour guide, among other things, reported to.

www.detrasdelrumor.com

, that last Thursday at about 1:00 am they were next to two American citizens walking in front of a bar in the Clisante Pedro Street, several women approached him and offered sexual services to their friends, one of them after sharing some conversations turned down the offer of a young prostitute under whom he identified as Katherine Perez, prompting an attack by of women.

Brito said the prostitute took a bottle and broke two of the lights to the jeep, no police helped them, they went to the police station and were detained, later the chica shows up with an officer and files a complaint.

The police offered attorneys to the Americans and told them that they would otherwise have a serious problem and would go to jail. Certainly in the early hours of the morning came the lawyers called by the police and offered freedom to foreigners from the same quarter in exchange for $ 2, 500 trying to scare Americans and warning them that they would go to jail. So this offer was rejected and after some legal proceedings were conducted by a Dominican family member being able to get him out as he really had not put his hand on the chica.

Manuel Brito, said these actions are performed very often in this city against tourists and described as a plague of prostitutes, police and lawyers to destroy tourism in this city and nobody does anything.Thanks for posting this. Just confirms what I have been saying all along!

Vote with your feet...

Also (if you can read Spanish), check out the comments locals are leaving at the end of the article. Some comments are in English (from tourists). They are essentially saying exactly what I said: that the plan is to shake down enough sex tourists to where they are too scared to come back to Sosua because they will find that financially it is not worth it. Hell, $2500 is the total trip budget for some mongers!

Mr Gogo
07-18-13, 01:17
Great post Orgasmico. Shoots down anyones theory that the cops are not corrupt and mongers bring problems on themselves. It's easy to see the guys here who don't know Jack about the DR.

OldKool
07-18-13, 01:53
Your sour ass will not be missed in Sosua. For the money it is the best deal in the western hemisphere. Case closed.


WRONG!

What makes you think that you have to go out of your way to convince anybody of anything? This ain't high school!

SavePros321
07-18-13, 02:09
Your sour ass will not be missed in Sosua. For the money it is the best deal in the western hemisphere. Case closed.You've got it ass-backwards brotha: I have not been back to Sosua since May 2012. Sosua will not be missed!

Be sure to make friends with as many DR lawyers and bondsmen as possible on your next trip. Sounds like you're going to need them when your chica tells her police buddies that the video you made of you and her to show your friends back home was filmed without her permission. I predict that once they extort your ass for 60k pesos that it will be your very last trip to Sosua, lol!

ForceSteeler
07-18-13, 02:14
Thanks for posting this. Just confirms what I have been saying all along!

Vote with your feet.

Also (if you can read Spanish) , check out the comments locals are leaving at the end of the article. Some comments are in English (from tourists). They are essentially saying exactly what I said: that the plan is to shake down enough sex tourists to where they are too scared to come back to Sosua because they will find that financially it is not worth it. Hell, $2500 is the total trip budget for some mongers!Do these Dominicans realize why tourist come to a shit hole place like Sosua is for the women? Besides the women what else is there to do in Sosua? Go to the Beach? I can fly to Miami.

I can understand why some country's are 3rd World. A Dominicans Mindset is so backward!

Mr Enternational
07-18-13, 02:23
This is not Kansas, unless you have a model release signed, it is very easy to be extorted.Why would you need a model release for a home video (and one that only showed people in a pool as well as drinking and smoking at that)? That would mean any Joe or Jane walking down Pedro Clisante or on Sosua Beach with a video camera could wind up in deep shit.

Bravo
07-18-13, 02:29
The police offered attorneys to the American and told them that he would otherwise have a serious problem and would go to jail. In the early hours of the morning came the lawyers called by the police and offered him freedom for $ 2, 500. Trying to scare the American and warning him that he would go to jail. This offer was rejected and after some legal proceedings he was able to get out of the situation.Wow! Just a few weeks ago I posted that as Americans we have to stand up against being extorted by these girls, and I promptly got trashed by certain members for my viewpoints! Here is an American who they were trying to get 2500 fucking dollars from and he refused to pay. (I guess the members on this board would have paid the 2500K with a quickness as soon as the crooked cop made a threat). Guess what would have happened if that man had paid that 2500? The girl and the police would have gone out this week and tried to get another American, but they would have asked for 5k the next time!

SavePros321
07-18-13, 02:32
Why would you need a model release for a home video (and one that only showed people in a pool as well as drinking and smoking at that)?That would be a valid argument if you were talking about the USA, LOL!

We are talking about a corrupt 3rd world country in a town were the chicas are in cahoots with the police, lawyers and judges. Also, the chicas in that video were in the pool naked.

"None of those naked girls were older than 18yrs old", said the Dominican Judge."Oh, they were? Prove it", he continued. "...after you pay out the ass to get out of jail first. Oh, and leave your passport at the front desk on your way out. It's probably going to take you a while to track down every one of those chicas in your video to get a copy of their cedula..."

The minute everyone stops attaching US logic and rationale to 3rd world logic and rationale, things start to become less confusing.

SavePros321
07-18-13, 02:40
Wow! Just a few weeks ago I posted that as Americans we have to stand up against being extorted by these girls, and I promptly got trashed by certain members for my viewpoints! Here is an American who they were trying to get 2500 fucking dollars from and he refused to pay. (I guess the members on this board would have paid the 2500K with a quickness as soon as the crooked cop made a threat).You left this part out:

"por lo que esta oferta fue rechazada y después de algunas diligencias legales realizadas por un familiar suyo por ser dominicano lograron salir"


So this offer was rejected and after some legal proceedings were conducted by a Dominican family member being able to get him out...This makes their case unique, agreed?

I don't know about you, but I do not have any Dominican family members living in the DR that would be able to "get me out".

Bravo
07-18-13, 03:23
You left this part out:

"por lo que esta oferta fue rechazada why después de algunas diligencias legales realizadas por un familiar suyo por ser dominicano lograron salir"

This makes their case unique, agreed?

I don't know about you, but I do not have any Dominican family members living in the DR that would be able to "get me out".Dominican family member of the American? Or Dominican family member of the Dominican guide, Manny?

OldKool
07-18-13, 03:37
No problems so far. If you are so sour why are you on the site. Mr gloom and doom. Were you ever a victim of a scam? I know no one who has been scammed. Get from under your dark cloud and post at another forum.


You've got it ass-backwards brotha: I have not been back to Sosua since May 2012. Sosua will not be missed!

Be sure to make friends with as many DR lawyers and bondsmen as possible on your next trip. Sounds like you're going to need them when your chica tells her police buddies that the video you made of you and her to show your friends back home was filmed without her permission. I predict that once they extort your ass for 60k pesos that it will be your very last trip to Sosua, LOL!

SavePros321
07-18-13, 10:53
Do these Dominicans realize why tourist come to a shit hole place like Sosua is for the women? Besides the women what else is there to do in Sosua? Go to the Beach? I can fly to Miami.

I can understand why some country's are 3rd World. A Dominicans Mindset is so backward!Careful, OldDrool will accuse you of being under a dark cloud for shitting on his reality. He lives in a world were there is no such thing as as evil. Everything is gum drops and lollipops, and Unicorns that shit rainbows.

Just don't ask him where to go to get a haircut there or you may end up having to call the police (although I'm sure he would love to convinently forget about that story...).

Zedman99
07-18-13, 13:10
Good article about how putas in Sosua extort money from gringo tourists.

http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2708-denuncian-se-asocian-prostitutas-policias-y-abogados-para-extorsionar-a-turistas-simulando-violencia-de-genero

Sosua. A citizen reported the afternoon of Tuesday the existence of a mafia among prostitutes, police and lawyers who are associated to extort foreign tourists visiting this city, pretending that they have exercised physical violence against women offering sexual services.

Manuel Brito who serves as tour guide, among other things, reported to.

www.detrasdelrumor.com

, that last Thursday at about 1:00 am they were next to two American citizens walking in front of a bar in the Clisante Pedro Street, several women approached him and offered sexual services to their friends, one of them after sharing some conversations turned down the offer of a young prostitute under whom he identified as Katherine Perez, prompting an attack by the chica.

Brito said the puta took a bottle and broke two of the lights to the guys jeep, and no police helped him. He went to the police station and was himself detained. Later the chica shows up with an officer and files a complaint.

The police offered attorneys to the American and told them that he would otherwise have a serious problem and would go to jail. In the early hours of the morning came the lawyers called by the police and offered him freedom for $ 2, 500. Trying to scare the American and warning him that he would go to jail. This offer was rejected and after some legal proceedings he was able to get out of the situation.

Manuel Brito, said these actions are performed very often in this city against tourists and described as a plague of prostitutes, police and lawyers to destroy tourism in this city and nobody does anything.Who reports this stuff? First there are two guys WALKING down Clisante at 1 AM.does not state their condition such as drunk.which is when are the pros take advantage of them-So they are WALKING-they don't want the girls.How does the girls know they have a JEEP?
So of course the cops standing on Clisante did nothing witnessing this ???

----Best part of this crap article---A SOSUA CITIZEN REPORTED THIS ??????------so this citizen reported it to who--when and lastly how did the citizen know all the details that took place --
WHAT A JOKE !!!!


-------MANUEL BRITO serves as a TOUR GUIDE----of what ???? Where is his WEBSITE ????

Zedman99
07-18-13, 13:15
They didn't take his passport.

Yes he paid some money, but it wasn't 60, 000 pesos.

Oh yeah, he is home, for about a month now, He called 2 times already since he got back.

I love some of the bullShit on this board, LOL!

Get your facts straight first before you post, SMDH.Thanks for clearing this up-once again on this site for you readers.BE VERY LEERY OF REPORTS OF EXTORTION-Its amazing as long as I've been going I never talked to anyone nor have I ever witnesses any of these examples on Clisante or anywhere in Sosua concerning 'chicas' and police working together to extort $$$$.Does it happen probably to drunken idiots-that's their problem if it does.

Mr Gogo
07-18-13, 13:36
Thanks for the post Orgasmico. It shows that the cops are corrupt, and the girls run scams. Luckily he had some Dominican connections that came to his rescue.

SavePros321
07-18-13, 13:40
we haven't had a troll in these parts for a long while. just ignore him and eventually he will go away. from his highly emotional responses it seems that zedman, i mean zelda, may be mensturating.

hopefully she is wearing her helmet while typing because we wouldn't want wittle zelda's mommy to catch her "typing while retarded."

thankfully school will be back in session in a few weeks and we will stop having all these ****s who pretend to have passports coming to our site and interrupting adult conversations.

my first thought was that zelda is actually a member of the politur afraid that we have exposed their little con game. but that would be giving them way too much credit.

preparation for troll starving: the first phase of eliminating a troll is to stop feeding it, i.e. not reponding to the troll's fantastical ramblings, and thereby acknowledging the troll's existence.

however, this in turn will lead to "post stalking" by said troll, which is defined as a desperate (also now known as "thirsty") attempt at eliciting a response from you. it will be a clear indication that the troll has entered into the "starvation phase".

watch for it...

Mongerman69
07-18-13, 14:10
More of what the future holds for Sosua.

http://youtu.be/uLhN6-gc34wHaven't we seen these idiots? Thought I'd watched this clip before. Admittedly, too difficult to watch the whole thing again.

Zedman99
07-18-13, 14:29
we haven't had a troll in these parts for a long while. just ignore him and eventually he will go away. from his highly emotional responses it seems that zedman, i mean zelda, may be mensturating.

hopefully she is wearing her helmet while typing because we wouldn't want wittle zelda's mommy to catch her "typing while retarded."

thankfully school will be back in session in a few weeks and we will stop having all these ****s who pretend to have passports coming to our site and interrupting adult conversations.

my first thought was that zelda is actually a member of the politur afraid that we have exposed their little con game. but that would be giving them way too much credit.

preparation for troll starving: the first phase of eliminating a troll is to stop feeding it, i. e. not reponding to the troll's fantastical ramblings, and thereby acknowledging the troll's existence.

however, this in turn will lead to "post stalking" by said troll, which is defined as a desperate (also now known as "thirsty") attempt at eliciting a response from you. it will be a clear indication that the troll has entered into the "starvation phase".

watch for it.be leery of posters .savepro123 is a prime example-admitted not being and sosua since 2012-but still knows every thing.zelda oh how cute-real adult comment there-personal attacks just solidify my point

Mr Gogo
07-18-13, 15:31
we haven't had a troll in these parts for a long while. just ignore him and eventually he will go away. from his highly emotional responses it seems that zedman, i mean zelda, may be mensturating.

hopefully she is wearing her helmet while typing because we wouldn't want wittle zelda's mommy to catch her "typing while retarded."

thankfully school will be back in session in a few weeks and we will stop having all these ****s who pretend to have passports coming to our site and interrupting adult conversations.

my first thought was that zelda is actually a member of the politur afraid that we have exposed their little con game. but that would be giving them way too much credit.

preparation for troll starving: the first phase of eliminating a troll is to stop feeding it, i. e. not reponding to the troll's fantastical ramblings, and thereby acknowledging the troll's existence.

however, this in turn will lead to "post stalking" by said troll, which is defined as a desperate (also now known as "thirsty") attempt at eliciting a response from you. it will be a clear indication that the troll has entered into the "starvation phase".

watch for it.great post savepros. our goal here should be to keep the board flowing in a positive direction. if we keep encouraging people who have negative and racial comments the board will soon be under moderation. that means every post will be subject to delay and inspection. it makes me think that this is what some people want. some people don't want positive info relating to sosua so that they can scare off mongers.

i commend the brothers and the white guys for not feeding into the recent racial bullshit. please understand isg brothers that people have goals to diminish this board. when people say cops arent corrupt and they have never had problems with girls, that tells me that they have not done much in the dr. we all know who the trolls are so why even entertain them?

Mongerer69
07-18-13, 16:53
I sit in my hotel room at New Garden as I write this report. I just had to come to Sosua to see what all the fuss was about. Having been to the Philippines 9 times. I can tell you this will be my 1st and last time to Sosua. Yea it's a longer plane ride to Philas but everything in Philas is twice as good. Ladies are much prettier more GFE and just a much nicer overall experience for similar cost. Oh well, I'm sure this will stir up some sh#t with Sosua die hards but don't knock it til you tried it. Peace.

Mr Gogo
07-18-13, 17:02
I sit in my hotel room at New Garden as I write this report. I just had to come to Sosua to see what all the fuss was about. Having been to the Philippines 9 times. I can tell you this will be my 1st and last time to Sosua. Yea it's a longer plane ride to Philas but everything in Philas is twice as good. Ladies are much prettier more GFE and just a much nicer overall experience for similar cost. Oh well, I'm sure this will stir up some sh#t with Sosua die hards but don't knock it til you tried it. Peace.No problem bro. Most Sosua vets have already developed other spots. We understand what it was compared to what it is. It's just a sideshow now.

OldKool
07-18-13, 18:15
BUt, I do not like slim built women. The average PI girl has no appeal for me. I know there are a few thick girls but they are the acception. The cost for the flight is more then I pay for my whole trip. It is a question of taste. I like most brothers like that big but girls / Asian women on average do not make the grade.


I sit in my hotel room at New Garden as I write this report. I just had to come to Sosua to see what all the fuss was about. Having been to the Philippines 9 times. I can tell you this will be my 1st and last time to Sosua. Yea it's a longer plane ride to Philas but everything in Philas is twice as good. Ladies are much prettier more GFE and just a much nicer overall experience for similar cost. Oh well, I'm sure this will stir up some sh#t with Sosua die hards but don't knock it til you tried it. Peace.

OldKool
07-18-13, 20:55
The club and facilities were doing fine on my trips There are people who only rag on Sosua. I have no clue why. It has everything a monger could ask for. Wine women and song. Truth be told mongers are the life blood of Sosua. The balk of the economy is based on monger business. The money guys know this. I like most guys have a ball there. Every variety of 20 year old pussy you could ask for. So all you sour ass mongers go where ever you want but for my dollars Sosua works big time.

Frannie
07-18-13, 22:46
I sit in my hotel room at New Garden as I write this report. I just had to come to Sosua to see what all the fuss was about. Having been to the Philippines 9 times. I can tell you this will be my 1st and last time to Sosua. Yea it's a longer plane ride to Philas but everything in Philas is twice as good. Ladies are much prettier more GFE and just a much nicer overall experience for similar cost. Oh well, I'm sure this will stir up some sh#t with Sosua die hards but don't knock it til you tried it. Peace.The problem with mongering is that it is a law of diminishing returns wherever you go. At first the monger feels ecstatic when he discovers a world of attractive, enthusiastic young women he can have sex with who would not normally be available to him, but gradually the novelty wears off and he has experimented with threesomes, foursomes, the beautiful, the ugly, the fat, the thin, the young, the old, the dark and the fair, and at the end he is left asking himself, like Peggy Lee in the famous song,"Is that all there is?"

For someone who has never traveled overseas for a sex vacation and who lives in the eastern seaboard of the USA, the DR is not a bad place to start, and Sosua is the most obvious destination due to the fact that a single man can enjoy sex, good food, a pedestrian lifestyle, and not feel out of place being a single man on vacation. Due to the multinational nature of the area, Spanish is optional, which is an additional plus for some.

DeezKnuts
07-19-13, 01:45
The club and facilities were doing fine on my trips There are people who only rag on Sosua. I have no clue why. It has everything a monger could ask for. Wine women and song. Truth be told mongers are the life blood of Sosua. The balk of the economy is based on monger business. The money guys know this. I like most guys have a ball there. Every variety of 20 year old pussy you could ask for. So all you sour ass mongers go where ever you want but for my dollars Sosua works big time.With all due respect, this isn't an either / or proposition. While you may not have experienced any of these issues personally doesn't mean they are not frequently happening to others. I originally linked to the articule in the other Sosua thread and the comments by the locals made it seem like an everyday occurrence. I'm not suggesting nobody visit the place but simply to be aware of the dangers. For example less than one tenth of one percent of the population in Mexico directly knows someone killed in the drug war. But what percentage is cognizant of the threat? I'd guess 95. IMO Sosua has become like that really popular bar / club / restaurant back home that something tragic is always taking place at. The vast majority will come and go without problems but if you happen to be the unfortunate mark that day then I hope you have deep pockets.

Chris Long
07-19-13, 03:45
I sit in my hotel room at New Garden as I write this report. I just had to come to Sosua to see what all the fuss was about. Having been to the Philippines 9 times. I can tell you this will be my 1st and last time to Sosua. Yea it's a longer plane ride to Philas but everything in Philas is twice as good. Ladies are much prettier more GFE and just a much nicer overall experience for similar cost. Oh well, I'm sure this will stir up some sh#t with Sosua die hards but don't knock it til you tried it. Peace.You are right AC and many other places in Asia beat Sosua hands down, it's no competition AC runs circles around Sosua and every other place in Latin America. I also agree I think the Asian women are better looking (just a personal preference). As I like to say Sosua is a poor man's Asia. However, Sosua has three things AC and the rest of Asia does not have. Location, Location, Location, Sosua is the one place I can get on a plane Thursday morning and be there in three or four hours and then be back Monday morning to conduct class. If I have four or five days its Sosua, if I have a week or more its Asia. Sosua isn't Asia but it isn't bad either.

By the way I'm in town right now as well, I'm just down the road from you at Ricks place, send me a PM and let me know if you want to meet up.

Chris

Parkinsons
07-19-13, 04:58
The problem with mongering is that it is a law of diminishing returns wherever you go. At first the monger feels ecstatic when he discovers a world of attractive, enthusiastic young women he can have sex with who would not normally be available to him, but gradually the novelty wears off .Very thoughtful and well put.

Also it's not just the Sosua vets longing for the "old Sosua", seems like mongers on the Colombia boards are saying things aren't like what they used to be; Costa Rica, Dong Guan China, Rio Brazil. Heck even the same sentiments are shared on the Angeles City Philippines board!

BadBear2000
07-19-13, 05:11
Most guys go to Sosua for the Haitian girls. They have studied under the Dominican girls. They have become hardcore Prostitutes that only want your money. It is even difficult to get one to spend the night anymore because many of them have boyfriends or pimps. This was told to me by a friend since I am a retired monger. I am not pushing for you to go to Haiti but things are changing and nothing beats a good Haitian girl that just wants to have sex and prefers the older guys

ForceSteeler
07-19-13, 05:26
I sit in my hotel room at New Garden as I write this report. I just had to come to Sosua to see what all the fuss was about. Having been to the Philippines 9 times. I can tell you this will be my 1st and last time to Sosua. Yea it's a longer plane ride to Philas but everything in Philas is twice as good. Ladies are much prettier more GFE and just a much nicer overall experience for similar cost. Oh well, I'm sure this will stir up some sh#t with Sosua die hards but don't knock it til you tried it. Peace.Yeah Sosua is Nice but once you step your game up and go to a place like the Philippines, You will be bored with a place like Sosua. Every Year that passes the Girls are becoming more and more hardcore, Because they have sucker ass Western Union Boyfriends. So they don't even have to work as hard anymore. Why work hard when you got some loser sending $300-$400 a month.

While in the Philippines, The Girls do not know there value because there's few Americans that travel to the Philippines too but them on pedestal. So they do not know there value and would appreciate having just a Hot Meal and they are way more laid back.

I used to Go to Sosua every 3 months (Or 4-5 times a Year) , Now I might go maybe once a year now, Its just not worth it like how it used to. Airline Tickets are getting more and more expensive

The Girls are way more hardcore, and they are asking for 3,000-4,000 pesos and your lucky if they spend the night. Plus most suck in bed and after a couple minutes they are asking "You leche papi", You Leche?

Even in Brazil the girls are expensive but at least they love to fuck and are freaky as hell. Just my 2 cents.

OldKool
07-19-13, 13:09
Most guys go to the DR for Dr women. I enjoy Haitian girls very much. However DR girls are more attractive to me. The haitian girls work harder and will accept less cash to compensate. Most young guys are down for numbers not GFE. So you get what you are looking for. The Girls respond by being short term oriented. We are blaming them for behavior we created. The majority of girls I dealt with were not hardcore. Possibly because I speak enough Spanish to tell the difference. I think all this fear of scammers is way over blown. Thousands of guys go every month and have zero issues. Guys pining for the good old days are living in the past. These are the good old days for me. Rumbas and Dlatins are rolling. The action is always moving. Guys are treating girls like working girls and the girls see this. It creates a bad vibe.


Most guys go to Sosua for the Haitian girls. They have studied under the Dominican girls. They have become hardcore Prostitutes that only want your money. It is even difficult to get one to spend the night anymore because many of them have boyfriends or pimps. This was told to me by a friend since I am a retired monger. I am not pushing for you to go to Haiti but things are changing and nothing beats a good Haitian girl that just wants to have sex and prefers the older guys

Frannie
07-19-13, 14:19
Very thoughtful and well put.

Also it's not just the Sosua vets longing for the "old Sosua", seems like mongers on the Colombia boards are saying things aren't like what they used to be; Costa Rica, Dong Guan China, Rio Brazil. Heck even the same sentiments are shared on the Angeles City Philippines board!Right. Here is something that was posted just today in the forum for Cartagena, Colombia.


Went to check out La Dolce Vita club tonight. I was sadly disappointed. The quality is not what it was two years ago. Maybe I'll try back on the weekend. But really the last time I was there I was like a kid in a candy store, trying to decide between which hot chica I wanted. Tonight all I saw were 6's, 7's, and a sprinkle of eights.

Beats
07-19-13, 22:10
dlatins, classicos and after 1 are all run by the same partners and an agreement was made to close classicos "for awhile" so that other business ventures could grow. classicos is available for private and special events.

i witnessed a fight break out at d'latins between two haitian girls. one pulled a knife and stabbed the other repeatedly. that girl later bled out and died. the other one was reportedly found raped, with a broken neck and dead in charamicos.

haitian girls are hassled regularly and beaten by police. as are the haitian males. the recent crackdown targeted haitian owned "businesses", but were reported as "massage parlors". many were boutiques and hair salons and from what i could tell, not at all involved in the selling of sexual services. three around the corner from me were shut down, even though they never even appeared to be open. the haitian males are targeted more often for moto-confirep001ion. in all cases, the dominicans see the haitians as competition. they no longer want to lose money to them, so the "crackdowns" here, are more about that, than anything else.

the police hassled me one night while i stood on the sidewalk, down past the plan b bar, texting my friend. they asked me why i was here, where i was staying and what i was doing. in between answers, they were whispering to each other and acting suspicious. they let me go, but the whole event was uncomfortable.

i found a gun (minus the slide and the clip) laying in a gutter across from rumbas. i did not touch it or even say anything to the police about it. not my business.

i have met many locals and talked to them about a wide variety of things. i suggest many of you do the same. it may change the way some folks conduct themselves down here.

Rebel Monger
07-20-13, 00:56
.they have sucker ass Western Union Boyfriends.Those are not exclusive of Sosua, there are plenty of "Western Union Boyfriends" in the Philippines too, and in every other country were we travel for fun. Most of us travel to get what we can't get at home (I rather would say "we are too shy to get at home") , and when we encounter the "receptivity" of the ladies out there, many of us "board" the deception train thinking that the hoes really fell for us, and then we do the "normal thing", start sending money to keep them away from the bar scene. In reality, we are just walking ATM for them, idiots to be taken advantage of. Don't get me wrong, I was one of those idiots in the past, and the hardest part was that I didn't do it out of love but out of pity (I don't like relationships because they are opposite to what I really like, freedom). Since then I learned that I don't have to remediate a problem I didn't create.

By the way, I really want to go to the Philippines, it sounds like fun, as we speak, my buddy is there having a blast!

Marc Anthony
07-20-13, 05:31
dlatins, classicos and after 1 are all run by the same partners and an agreement was made to close classicos "for awhile" so that other business ventures could grow. classicos is available for private and special events.

i witnessed a fight break out at d'latins between two haitian girls. one pulled a knife and stabbed the other repeatedly. that girl later bled out and died. the other one was reportedly found raped, with a broken neck and dead in charamicos.

haitian girls are hassled regularly and beaten by police. as are the haitian males. the recent crackdown targeted haitian owned "businesses", but were reported as "massage parlors". many were boutiques and hair salons and from what i could tell, not at all involved in the selling of sexual services. three around the corner from me were shut down, even though they never even appeared to be open. the haitian males are targeted more often for moto-confirep001ion. in all cases, the dominicans see the haitians as competition. they no longer want to lose money to them, so the "crackdowns" here, are more about that, than anything else.

the police hassled me one night while i stood on the sidewalk, down past the plan b bar, texting my friend. they asked me why i was here, where i was staying and what i was doing. in between answers, they were whispering to each other and acting suspicious. they let me go, but the whole event was uncomfortable.

i found a gun (minus the slide and the clip) laying in a gutter across from rumbas. i did not touch it or even say anything to the police about it. not my business.

i have met many locals and talked to them about a wide variety of things. i suggest many of you do the same. it may change the way some folks conduct themselves down here.just curious about what you thought was going on when the police (politur?) were hassling you on the sidewalk. in my experience the haitian girls openly at clubs have passports and visas and are still pretty shy of the police.

Japansh
07-20-13, 08:05
Anyone in Sosua 7/25. 7/29? We can hangout together and I could use some Spanish help.

Frannie
07-20-13, 12:30
The recent crackdown targeted Haitian owned "businesses", but were reported as "massage parlors". Many were boutiques and hair salons and from what I could tell, not at all involved in the selling of sexual services. Three around the corner from me were shut down, even though they never even appeared to be open.Since this occurred I have counted eleven places that are closed with the "Clausurado" signs posted, including some "salons". As far as I know all of them featured Haitian chicas offering massages (sex). It was reported that there were sixteen closures. The other five might include the three around the corner from you. The ones I know of are on Dr. Rosen (3) , Alejandro (4) , near the back entrance of Casa Marina (2) , on the road down to the beach (2).

Mister Booblover
07-20-13, 15:33
Hi all your NG guys,

I am not staying at New Garden, but last night I was told by a chica on the strip, that there is a very busty chica that works in the bar at NG that go with clients and others. If anyone can confirm that and have some contact info about her, I will be very pleased to receive a PM.

Thanks a lot,

MB

The Mind Bender
07-20-13, 22:36
I think about visiting Sosua during late Oct.

Anyone ever been there during Halloween? Do they do anything special? Costumes? Parties? Etc

Chris Bigdog
07-20-13, 23:15
In your opinion what is the demographics that is attracting all these fat chics?

Obviously, not the German, French, or Italians. Per your post. And I don't think it is the Canadians either.I believe the culturally accurate term is PHAT boot, meaning women of heft who have large asses. I occasionally like this look, but I from my observation it is largely American men from NYC, where I am from too.

DeezKnuts
07-21-13, 00:30
I think about visiting Sosua during late Oct.

Anyone ever been there during Halloween? Do they do anything special? Costumes? Parties? EtcYes. There are usually multiple venues hosting Halloween themed parties.

Don Antonio
07-21-13, 03:44
when did that happen? any more details, including names?

and yes, practically all the haitian girls carry blades / knives for self defense.

and they will tell you they do not carry those to defend themselves from mongers but from "crazy girls."


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i witnessed a fight break out at d'latins between two haitian girls. one pulled a knife and stabbed the other repeatedly. that girl later bled out and died. the other one was reportedly found raped, with a broken neck and dead in charamicos.

Gary2
07-21-13, 14:50
Well I've moved here to live at <Infinit-blu. Com 3wks ago after never being in the DR before but reading for 5 years all blogs ever written on this thread. Just surreal: So many 8's. 9's and 10's all day, all night. Pretty girls? Surprising to me Sosua blows Medillin and San Salvador away completely for quality. From all my reading I was still completely surprised by the quality of both faces and bodys. Just mind boggling. You'd only see some of these girls on like the Spanish "Romantica' channels. You could fill a Playboy magazine ten times over in just one day / night. And because these woman are exotic looking (different than we are used to) a DR 8 in the USA would be called a 9. The girls I've been with have all been very friendly, not robotic. I had one exception however. Girl came back to my room. Only wanted to give massage. After some non-heated arguing I figured best to pay her half. In general I've been paying $1,500 for 8's and $2,000 for 9's. Bored? I have not even scratched the surface of the potential here. Note; The people are extremely friendly to me and to each other. As one American here said."They are like brothers and sisters." He also added "It rubs off on us too." Nice.

Gary de Colorado

SavePros321
07-21-13, 17:14
In general I've been paying $1,500 for 8's and $2,000 for 9's.USD? Or RD?

Looks like a nice place, but from Google Maps it also looks to be very far from the main action.

OldKool
07-21-13, 17:35
Thanks for the report. I share your perspective of Sosua. Lately some guys have been ragging on the place. The truth is the numbers are so great any guy can find a 8 or 9 any time they want, The girls are motivated to please. Sosua is like Christmas every day.


Well I've moved here to live at <Infinit-blu. Com 3wks ago after never being in the DR before but reading for 5 years all blogs ever written on this thread. Just surreal: So many 8's. 9's and 10's all day, all night. Pretty girls? Surprising to me Sosua blows Medillin and San Salvador away completely for quality. From all my reading I was still completely surprised by the quality of both faces and bodys. Just mind boggling. You'd only see some of these girls on like the Spanish "Romantica' channels. You could fill a Playboy magazine ten times over in just one day / night. And because these woman are exotic looking (different than we are used to) a DR 8 in the USA would be called a 9. The girls I've been with have all been very friendly, not robotic. I had one exception however. Girl came back to my room. Only wanted to give massage. After some non-heated arguing I figured best to pay her half. In general I've been paying $1, 500 for 8's and $2, 000 for 9's. Bored? I have not even scratched the surface of the potential here. Note; The people are extremely friendly to me and to each other. As one American here said."They are like brothers and sisters." He also added "It rubs off on us too." Nice.

Gary de Colorado

Manizales911
07-21-13, 17:40
Surprising to me Sosua blows Medillin and San Salvador away completely for quality.

Gary de ColoradoMedillin maybe, I haven't been there yet, hahaha. But I have been to a place called Medellin, you should go there, it's much nicer in every aspect than Sosua, hahaha.

Frannie
07-21-13, 18:09
Well I've moved here to live at <Infinit-blu. Com 3wks ago after never being in the DR before but reading for 5 years all blogs ever written on this thread. Just surreal: So many 8's. 9's and 10's all day, all night. Pretty girls? Surprising to me Sosua blows Medillin and San Salvador away completely for quality. From all my reading I was still completely surprised by the quality of both faces and bodys. Just mind boggling. You'd only see some of these girls on like the Spanish "Romantica' channels. You could fill a Playboy magazine ten times over in just one day / night. And because these woman are exotic looking (different than we are used to) a DR 8 in the USA would be called a 9. The girls I've been with have all been very friendly, not robotic. I had one exception however. Girl came back to my room. Only wanted to give massage. After some non-heated arguing I figured best to pay her half. In general I've been paying $1, 500 for 8's and $2, 000 for 9's. Bored? I have not even scratched the surface of the potential here. Note; The people are extremely friendly to me and to each other. As one American here said."They are like brothers and sisters." He also added "It rubs off on us too." Nice.

Gary de ColoradoThat's how it seems at first. I remember a few years ago I wondered why the hell every single guy in Florida wasn't jetting down to the DR whenever he had a few days off work, yet now I can walk around the place are am rarely even tempted.

I don't know how old you are, but I suspect that many of these chicas, if they know a bit about your personal circumstances, are auditioning for the role of novia.

IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.

However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighbourhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered as the rightful property of some one or other of their daughters.

JANE AUSTEN; PRIDE AND PREJUDICE

Charles Pooter
07-21-13, 18:48
And yes, practically all the Haitian girls carry blades / knives for self defense.

And they will tell you they do not carry those to defend themselves from mongers but from "crazy girls."This may be true of the small group of hardcore haitianas who work the Strip in Sosua, but no more true than it is of their Dominican equivalents.

I have been with hundreds of non-pro or semi-pro haitianas from places other than central Sosua and I can only remember one who had a weapon. Of course I did not minutely search through all their belongings so I might have missed two or three more, but they would certainly be the rare exception.

As I keep posting when we hear these tales of scams and confrontations, why the hell do guys insist of mixing with those locals who are so obviously trash, when there are so many hot girls available all over the country? Some guys seem to have a death wish. Nowhere and no-one is totally safe, and we are right to keep our guard up, but you can immediately reduce your chances of problems by 90% by avoiding certain hotspots.

Beats
07-21-13, 22:09
When did that happen? Any more details, including names?

And yes, practically all the Haitian girls carry blades / knives for self defense.

And they will tell you they do not carry those to defend themselves from mongers but from "crazy girls."It happened on June 27th / 28th (late night / early morn).

OldKool
07-21-13, 23:49
Most guys do not have time or skill to pick up local girls. Sosua provides access for scores of pretty girls willing to suck your dick and fuck you for 40 dollars. I do not see the girls as trash. They live in a country where there is very little opportunity. Sosua is perfect for the average monger. Most of us do not have time to chase chicas. In Sosua girls come from all over the island to fuck us. I do not feel like playing games or pretending a girl is my love interest. Sosua is a good time 24/7. No place is perfect but Sosua works for me.


This may be true of the small group of hardcore haitianas who work the Strip in Sosua, but no more true than it is of their Dominican equivalents.

I have been with hundreds of non-pro or semi-pro haitianas from places other than central Sosua and I can only remember one who had a weapon. Of course I did not minutely search through all their belongings so I might have missed two or three more, but they would certainly be the rare exception.

As I keep posting when we hear these tales of scams and confrontations, why the hell do guys insist of mixing with those locals who are so obviously trash, when there are so many hot girls available all over the country? Some guys seem to have a death wish. Nowhere and no-one is totally safe, and we are right to keep our guard up, but you can immediately reduce your chances of problems by 90% by avoiding certain hotspots.

ShyDog
07-22-13, 01:53
Most guys do not have time or skill to pick up local girls. Sosua provides access for scores of pretty girls willing to suck your dick and fuck you for 40 dollars. I do not see the girls as trash. They live in a country where there is very little opportunity. Sosua is perfect for the average monger. Most of us do not have time to chase chicas. In Sosua girls come from all over the island to fuck us. I do not feel like playing games or pretending a girl is my love interest. Sosua is a good time 24/7. No place is perfect but Sosua works for me.I totally agree OldKool. You and I feel the same about Sosua. I too feel that it is the best in the Western Hemisphere and yes I've been to Rio (Albeit a bit too late 2011). I have no desire to go anywhere else other than Thailand and PI.

Orgasmico
07-22-13, 02:46
I've got 200 emails waiting on me and one of them was from a dude who was in Sosua for the 4th of July weekend. The rumor was a few celebrities were in townHttp://statigr.am/tag/dominicanbeachfest/

Combo
07-22-13, 03:45
This may be true of the small group of hardcore haitianas who work the Strip in Sosua, but no more true than it is of their Dominican equivalents.

I have been with hundreds of non-pro or semi-pro haitianas from places other than central Sosua and I can only remember one who had a weapon. Of course I did not minutely search through all their belongings so I might have missed two or three more, but they would certainly be the rare exception.

As I keep posting when we hear these tales of scams and confrontations, why the hell do guys insist of mixing with those locals who are so obviously trash, when there are so many hot girls available all over the country? Some guys seem to have a death wish. Nowhere and no-one is totally safe, and we are right to keep our guard up, but you can immediately reduce your chances of problems by 90% by avoiding certain hotspots.Because most of us don't live down there. For a visit of a week of less, Sosua is just too convenient. But yes, if I had much more time to spend in the DR, I'd hang out elsewhere.

Combo
07-22-13, 03:48
Well I've moved here to live at <Infinit-blu. Com 3wks ago after never being in the DR before but reading for 5 years all blogs ever written on this thread. Just surreal: So many 8's. 9's and 10's all day, all night. Pretty girls? Surprising to me Sosua blows Medillin and San Salvador away completely for quality. From all my reading I was still completely surprised by the quality of both faces and bodys. Just mind boggling. You'd only see some of these girls on like the Spanish "Romantica' channels. You could fill a Playboy magazine ten times over in just one day / night. And because these woman are exotic looking (different than we are used to) a DR 8 in the USA would be called a 9. The girls I've been with have all been very friendly, not robotic. I had one exception however. Girl came back to my room. Only wanted to give massage. After some non-heated arguing I figured best to pay her half. In general I've been paying $1, 500 for 8's and $2, 000 for 9's. Bored? I have not even scratched the surface of the potential here. Note; The people are extremely friendly to me and to each other. As one American here said."They are like brothers and sisters." He also added "It rubs off on us too." Nice.

Gary de ColoradoBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. I very much enjoy Sosua, but as far as facial beauty, the vast majority of the guys on here would prefer the girls in Medellin. Of course, MDE doesn't have a beach and way too many of the chicas have fake asses and tits. Hard to compare the two places. Apples vs oranges.

Mr Gogo
07-22-13, 04:13
Because most of us don't live down there. For a visit of a week of less, Sosua is just too convenient. But yes, if I had much more time to spend in the DR, I'd hang out elsewhere.Most guys don't want to take the time to learn Spanish and branch out, they are content. I look at my early years and I was an adventurous fool. I thought the whole island was like Sosua, and in many ways it was. Picking up pussy on the side of the road for a quickie while driving to SD. Having girls put on their best clothes for the gringo visiting their friend in the bario. In the campo with no electricity fucking in the dark. In Santiago at a bbq where all the girls are light skinned and drop dead gorgeous. And all this with basic Spanish. Sex in the DR is very easy outside of Sosua.

I see guys with 20 trips to the DR and have never left Pedro Clisante and I respect that. Being content without exploring is just not my style.

Don Antonio
07-22-13, 12:38
I don't think so.

I was in Sosua at that time. And believe me, if two Haitianas were killed (one stabbed, the other with a broken neck) that would not have escaped my attention.

Now, there was a pretty ugly fight between two Haitianas that week that started at DLatin, and then, following a break-up, resumed again at Bar Central.

I did not witness it, but one of the fighting parties is a female acquaintance of mine.

I can assure you that rumors of bleeding to death and broken necks are vastly exaggerated. Jeezzz.


It happened on June 27th / 28th (late night / early morn).

Bravo
07-22-13, 18:04
I don't think so.

I was in Sosua at that time. And believe me, if two Haitianas were killed (one stabbed, the other with a broken neck) that would not have escaped my attention.

Now, there was a pretty ugly fight between two Haitianas that week that started at DLatin, and then, following a break-up, resumed again at Bar Central.

I did not witness it, but one of the fighting parties is a female acquaintance of mine.

I can assure you that rumors of bleeding to death and broken necks are vastly exaggerated. Jeezzz.The broken neck story is real. Here is the link.

http://www.detrasdelrumor.com/index.nsion-en-sosua

Charles Pooter
07-22-13, 18:08
I do not see the girls as trash.Sorry if I was unclear. I did not mean to imply that all the girls you find in Sosua are trash. My friends find many nice girls there, as did I when I used to visit there regularly.

What I meant was that it is usually very obvious which ones are trash (by their appearance and behaviour) and with whom you stand a much greater risk of poor performance or worse problems.

And you can improve your odds by mongering outside Sosua. I understand that guys don't want to waste their limited vacation time, but not even the horniest can fuck non-stop for 24 hours per day. An hour or two spent travelling to Montellano, Puerto Plata and other nearby spots for nominal amounts is a cheap way to have a more interesting vacation.

Wrx2005
07-22-13, 18:41
While hanging at Rockys the other day, I witnessed a situation. The guys from Daniel Car rental brought one of their customers to Rocky to get the customer to pay them for a scooter he had rented from them. Apparentely he had made friends with some local dominican. Was letting this local hang with him. At some point he allowed the local to get close enough to trust to "borrow" the bike to allegedly go get some marijuana.

Once the local took off he hasnt been found again. Daniels car rental want $2800 to settle the matter. Hold on it gets worse. The dude was out one night and managed to have his wallet stolen. His credit card was in there. Apparently since that incident Rick and others have been lending him money. So the dude was flat broke, and in a mess over this scooter.

It gets worse. He gave the rental guys his passport when he got the rental. I have never gave up my passport over a car rental. I think that mistake is what makes me think the dude is getting scammed. Once he is squeezed for whatever cent they can get, I'll bet money the local and the bike will reappear as if nothing happened.

This is the 1st time seeing Rick in action trying to help the guy. The rental guys wanted to come into Rockys to make sure the guy didn't get out of sight. But Rick denied them entry into the restaurant where the guy was sitting. After a while the policia national came, and then Rick allowed the rentals in so all parties could discuss the matter.

The result was the police would get a document drafted so they can arrest the guy. Figuring the police were handling the matter, the rental guys left, and the guy got out of sight to avoid an arrest. Even the next day Rick was still advising this guy on some options he could take. One of them was seeking alternative travel documents or even turning himself in so the situation doesn't escalate if he is detained at whatever airport he chooses to leave from. I would think someone trying to exit the country without their original passport would draw a red flag and possibly an investigation?

Bravo
07-22-13, 19:07
The result was the police would get a document drafted so they can arrest the guy. Figuring the police were handling the matter, the rental guys left, and the guy got out of sight to avoid an arrest. Even the next day Rick was still advising this guy on some options he could take. One of them was seeking alternative travel documents or even turning himself in so the situation doesn't escalate if he is detained at whatever airport he chooses to leave from. I would think someone trying to exit the country without their original passport would draw a red flag and possibly an investigation?can't he go to the American Embassy in SD and get a new passport? I would never turn myself in, that will just get lawyers and judges involved, which means he will end up paying $28,000 instead of $2, 800!

I wonder why he didn't just go to the police station and say the bike was stolen. Make up a report, then go to the rental company with the report. I am sure there was insurance on the bike, he could have gotten his passport back and walked away.

Mr Enternational
07-22-13, 19:23
It's obvious that guy has never been on ISG. If there are two things I have learned from this Sosua forum it is do not befriend local men and say no to drugs.

Ath Trainer
07-22-13, 20:07
How are the rooms in the old wing, compared to the new wing. Only old wing available next wk with double beds.

Gary2
07-22-13, 20:08
For me at 6'2, the Filipinos are much to small for me and the slant eyes, well, not my instinctive / native look. Facial looks comparing Medellin to Sosua. Keeping in mind all these Latin girls have these great 3-the bodies. Great skin and hair. Also plenty of common Black and Spanish blood. Problem. The number of girls in Medillin was very low in comparison. Like not even one tenth. Got to search thru these small brothels. True a few strip bars have some, and a few in the malls, but very few on the street and not really approachable as they commute with work anyway. In Medellin a really pretty face? A head turning face. True I'm very picky, but very surprising to me, I saw none. Wanted to. Head turning bodies and good overall package yes, but really pretty, no. Here in Sosua, with the tremendous numbers, I see cover girl faces everyday. Hard core? Not sure I know what that is anyway. Can't expect a girl to treat you like a novio on the first encounter can we? Some are really friendly and personable though. I will say this about Medellin, and I did have a good time there. The girls are very nice. Sosua is jut so mind boggling and I just beginning to scratch the surface potential. Like working on true, real young 10's. I think they take some time. Need to live here. They don't just jump here. Not for me anyway. Not if they are only 18-20yrs. And these incredible bar maids! Just mind boggling.

OldKool
07-22-13, 20:09
We are not the average mongers. I like this so much I practice my skills spanish, dancing and just loving the culture. I have a few girls I stay in touch with. This is one of the things that spices my life up. Sosua provides a very good time for me but 3 days is all I can usually handle at one time. I mix sport fucking with regular girls I know. They are very different activities but are both great fun.


Sorry if I was unclear. I did not mean to imply that all the girls you find in Sosua are trash. My friends find many nice girls there, as did I when I used to visit there regularly.

What I meant was that it is usually very obvious which ones are trash (by their appearance and behaviour) and with whom you stand a much greater risk of poor performance or worse problems.

And you can improve your odds by mongering outside Sosua. I understand that guys don't want to waste their limited vacation time, but not even the horniest can fuck non-stop for 24 hours per day. An hour or two spent travelling to Montellano, Puerto Plata and other nearby spots for nominal amounts is a cheap way to have a more interesting vacation.

Beats
07-22-13, 20:10
I don't think so.

I was in Sosua at that time. And believe me, if two Haitianas were killed (one stabbed, the other with a broken neck) that would not have escaped my attention.

Now, there was a pretty ugly fight between two Haitianas that week that started at DLatin, and then, following a break-up, resumed again at Bar Central.

I did not witness it, but one of the fighting parties is a female acquaintance of mine.

I can assure you that rumors of bleeding to death and broken necks are vastly exaggerated. Jeezzz.You don't have to believe me. Talk to the local bar owners / management. Thats who confirmed it for me, after my friend, who was with me that night and witnessed the whole event, told me that the girl who was stabbed repeatedly, died.

Beats
07-22-13, 20:16
Two trucks of armed / helmeted National police surrounded D'Latins and swarmed the place, last night around 11:30. The bar was just beginning to fill up. Maybe 200 people or so. All men were directed to one side of the bar, all women to the other. The Police checked all the ladies IDs and detained those who did not have them. They were looking for minors. I do not know if they found any, but some people were escorted out and detained. Men were randomly searched. Those who copped attitudes, were hassled and had to show their IDs. The place was on lock-down for about 30 minutes. It was not a pleasant experience.

Doker44
07-22-13, 23:30
While hanging at Rockys the other day, I witnessed a situation. The guys from Daniel Car rental brought one of their customers to Rocky to get the customer to pay them for a scooter he had rented from them. Apparentely he had made friends with some local dominican. Was letting this local hang with him. At some point he allowed the local to get close enough to trust to "borrow" the bike to allegedly go get some marijuana.

Once the local took off he hasnt been found again. Daniels car rental want $2800 to settle the matter. Hold on it gets worse. The dude was out one night and managed to have his wallet stolen. His credit card was in there. Apparently since that incident Rick and others have been lending him money. So the dude was flat broke, and in a mess over this scooter.

It gets worse. He gave the rental guys his passport when he got the rental. I have never gave up my passport over a car rental. I think that mistake is what makes me think the dude is getting scammed. Once he is squeezed for whatever cent they can get, I'll bet money the local and the bike will reappear as if nothing happened.

This is the 1st time seeing Rick in action trying to help the guy. The rental guys wanted to come into Rockys to make sure the guy didn't get out of sight. But Rick denied them entry into the restaurant where the guy was sitting. After a while the policia national came, and then Rick allowed the rentals in so all parties could discuss the matter.

The result was the police would get a document drafted so they can arrest the guy. Figuring the police were handling the matter, the rental guys left, and the guy got out of sight to avoid an arrest. Even the next day Rick was still advising this guy on some options he could take. One of them was seeking alternative travel documents or even turning himself in so the situation doesn't escalate if he is detained at whatever airport he chooses to leave from. I would think someone trying to exit the country without their original passport would draw a red flag and possibly an investigation?I think I met this guy and if it is the same guy, I saw him allowing some Dominican male take him to the beach to figure out how to rent chairs. Unfortuately he did no research and was told about the place by someone. Although nice enough was fairly naive and within 5 minutes of talking with him I knew he had no idea what he was doing. I am surprised about the marijuana if that part is true because of what he told me he did for a living. He told me about loosing his wallet and that Rick was helping him, which is more impressive because he isnt a regular. I explained that he should come down with at least 3 cards and keep them in at least 2 different spots or in the safe. He had no business renting much less driving there. How many mistakes did he make? Thank god he has Rick because he is going to need him. I have seen Ricks customer service several times and its a good reason many mongers stay with him because even us experienced mongers arent immune to a problem.

On another note, I hang with many expats and heard nothing about a stabbing. There may have been a broken neck somewhere I don't know.

SavePros321
07-22-13, 23:36
At some point he allowed the local to get close enough to trust to "borrow" the bike to allegedly go get some marijuana. Once the local took off he hasnt been found again.



I think I met this guy and if it is the same guy, I saw him allowing some Dominican male take him to the beach to figure out how to rent chairs. Unfortuately he did no research and was told about the place by someone. Although nice enough was fairly naive and within 5 minutes of talking with him I knew he had no idea what he was doing. He told me about loosing his wallet and that Rick was helping him, which is more impressive because he isnt a regular. I explained that he should come down with at least 3 cards and keep them in at least 2 different spots or in the safe. He had no business renting much less driving there.Too bad his first experience in Sosua will ultimately be his last. If he manages to get out of there without losing his shirt, he'll never step foot on the island again.

"A fool and his money are soon parted..."- Thomas Tusser

OldKool
07-23-13, 00:12
It has been reported that Passions was shut down last night by tourism board. Guy on the ground saw the sign on the door. If this is true ,rubber is meeting the road. I don't use Passions but many guys swear by the place. It seems to be very well run and an institution in Sosua. If there I more info chime in. Cube Dave is slitting his wrist as we speak.

The Mind Bender
07-23-13, 00:29
How are the rooms in the old wing, compared to the new wing. Only old wing available next wk with double beds.Old wing is just that, OLD! It's serviceable but things like showers leaking water all over the floor can get annoying.

Best to plan out in advance and grab a room in the new wing

Orgasmico
07-23-13, 00:33
Once the local took off he hasnt been found again. Daniels car rental want $2800 to settle the matter. Hold on it gets worse. The dude was out one night and managed to have his wallet stolen. His credit card was in there. Apparently since that incident Rick and others have been lending him money. So the dude was flat broke, and in a mess over this scooter.I told that kid to watch his back and not trust the locals that I saw sizing him up. After he lost his wallet and another dude from North Carolina lent him $100 USD, I still saw the dude out drinking and not watching his back. I'm not surprised that something like this could happen to him.

Frannie
07-23-13, 00:39
It has been reported that Passions was shut down last night by tourism board. Guy on the ground saw the sign on the door. If this is true ,rubber is meeting the road. I don't use Passions but many guys swear by the place. It seems to be very well run and an institution in Sosua. If there I more info chime in. Cube Dave is slitting his wrist as we speak.I don't know if this is true or not, but I will check in the morning. In the meantime note that I posted the following less than three weeks ago.


Apparently the attorney general is interested in pursuing organized pimping and recruitment of chicas which might conceivably make places like Passions and CMP a target. Now I am not saying I have any special information, and maybe I am quite mistaken, but it would seem logical.

Revere
07-23-13, 01:38
I don't know if this is true or not, but I will check in the morning. In the meantime note that I posted the following less than three weeks ago.This was written July 5th, in Domincan Today, I did not post as I did not want people to think I was hating on Sousa because I would never do that, but this article could mean something of what they want to do might not workk:

Sosua, Dominican Republic- People in Sosua complain of rampant prostitution that scares families to stay away from the Atlantic Coast's top tourism destination.

Representatives from community organizations, neighborhood councils and town authorities quoted by elcaribe. Com. Do estimate that at least a 1, 000 women exercise prostitution, though only one percent are natives of Puerto Plata province, according to their statements.

Sosua mayor Ileana Newman acknowledges prostitution's alarming jump in recent years, noting that those women have taken over its main street, Pedro Clisante, to offer their craft round the clock.

"Tour operators have told us they can't bring tourists, because we're overwhelmed in prostitution and that's causing a serious problem for those of us who're committed to more family tourism," Newman said, adding that, many women avoid Clisante St. To not be mistaken for a hooker.

Frannie
07-23-13, 01:52
This was written July 5th, in Domincan Today, I did not post as I did not want people to think I was hating on Sousa because I would never do that, but this article could mean something of what they want to do might not workk:

Sosua, Dominican Republic- People in Sosua complain of rampant prostitution that scares families to stay away from the Atlantic Coast's top tourism destination.

Representatives from community organizations, neighborhood councils and town authorities quoted by elcaribe. Com. Do estimate that at least a 1, 000 women exercise prostitution, though only one percent are natives of Puerto Plata province, according to their statements.

Sosua mayor Ileana Newman acknowledges prostitution's alarming jump in recent years, noting that those women have taken over its main street, Pedro Clisante, to offer their craft round the clock.

"Tour operators have told us they can't bring tourists, because we're overwhelmed in prostitution and that's causing a serious problem for those of us who're committed to more family tourism," Newman said, adding that, many women avoid Clisante St. To not be mistaken for a hooker.Yes, my impression is that the powers-that-be in Sosua don't object to single male tourists discretely hooking up with temporary girlfriends they meet in bars and discos, but they don't want regular tourists to be hassled by girls for sex or massages whenever they walk the main street of Sosua. They also definitely don't want commercialized sex establishments, pornography, or sex shows of the type that you would find in Amsterdam, for example. To my mind Sosua is also relatively restrained compared to what it would be like in any US resort where prostitution was legal. I also get the impression that they are not too keen on guys who come down in large groups, sometimes promenading in what Dominicans would regard as inappropriate clothing for street wear.

SavePros321
07-23-13, 01:56
"Tour operators have told us they can't bring tourists, because we're overwhelmed in prostitution and that's causing a serious problem for those of us who're committed to more family tourism,"Bring tourists where, LOL? There is nothing to see in Sosua!

Admittedly the beach is nice, but it's an island for crying out loud. You can't help but trip over a beach at every turn.

Help me out expats; am I missing something here? What is in Sosua that these "Tour Operators" are trying to bring tourist to Sosua for?

SavePros321
07-23-13, 01:58
I also get the impression that they are not too keen on guys who come down in large groups, sometimes promenading in what Dominicans would regard as inappropriate clothing for street wear.What, are there large groups of men walking around in man-thongs are something? You should remind them that this isn't Europe!

Zedman99
07-23-13, 02:01
The broken neck story is real. Here is the link.

http://www.detrasdelrumor.com/index.nsion-en-sosuaSo much 4 that story

Revere
07-23-13, 02:15
Yes, my impression is that the powers-that-be in Sosua don't object to single male tourists discretely hooking up with temporary girlfriends they meet in bars and discos, but they don't want regular tourists to be hassled by girls for sex or massages whenever they walk the main street of Sosua. They also definitely don't want commercialized sex establishments, pornography, or sex shows of the type that you would find in Amsterdam, for example. To my mind Sosua is also relatively restrained compared to what it would be like in any US resort where prostitution was legal. I also get the impression that they are not too keen on guys who come down in large groups, sometimes promenading in what Dominicans would regard as inappropriate clothing for street wear.I agree with all your points. Look what happened to Help in Brazil. Kenny giving boat cruises in Rio was not taking kindly as many of you know. Atheletes, entertainers coming down no problem. Groups of people in white T's let's not kid ourselves. That does not go over well. Sorry, but the truth and I am Black. Although, people behave most of the time a lot of places do not want that look. Add prostitutes to that mix, and you will have people wanting to end that sooner or later. Call it what you want, but people do not want to see that.

i need to be careful on that last statement, i have never been to Sousa, so i do not know if that is how it is you all have to tell me, but if it is then that is a problem. Because some people just hate that look call it racists, envy, jealousy, intimidated - not sure but you have to understand that this country does have some color issues. Never affected me, but you talk to some girls who are brown that say they are white. I am like your kidding me, but that is a whole another discussion.

Last thing, there appears to be a crack down going on around the country. So, i am not going to say it is not happening all over in Santo Domingo they are targeting some unlucky gringos. So, not just a black thing.

Don Antonio
07-23-13, 02:36
Kiddo,

You could have done better than that.

A working link is here, http://www.detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2661-encuentran-mujer-asesinada-en-la-habitacion-de-una-pension-en-sosua

All that is left: (I) you need to able to read Spanish; (ii) find the blood stains at D'Latin; (iii) show that the two are connected. Per the OPs post.

Taking a wild guess, I think you will fail (I). (iii).


So much 4 that story

OldKool
07-23-13, 03:14
Who knows what happen to this lovely young lady. Another reason not to do dumb shit when you are in the DR.


Kiddo,

You could have done better than that.

A working link is here,

http://www.detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2661-encuentran-mujer-asesinada-en-la-habitacion-de-una-pension-en-sosua

All that is left: (I) you need to able to read Spanish; (ii) find the blood stains at D'Latin; (iii) show that the two are connected. Per the OPs post.

Taking a wild guess, I think you will fail (I). (iii).

Llttf
07-23-13, 04:28
While hanging at Rockys the other day, I witnessed a situation. The guys from Daniel Car rental brought one of their customers to Rocky to get the customer to pay them for a scooter he had rented from them. Apparentely he had made friends with some local dominican. Was letting this local hang with him. At some point he allowed the local to get close enough to trust to "borrow" the bike to allegedly go get some marijuana.

Once the local took off he hasnt been found again. Daniels car rental want $2800 to settle the matter. Hold on it gets worse. The dude was out one night and managed to have his wallet stolen. His credit card was in there. Apparently since that incident Rick and others have been lending him money. So the dude was flat broke, and in a mess over this scooter.

It gets worse. He gave the rental guys his passport when he got the rental. I have never gave up my passport over a car rental. I think that mistake is what makes me think the dude is getting scammed. Once he is squeezed for whatever cent they can get, I'll bet money the local and the bike will reappear as if nothing happened.

This is the 1st time seeing Rick in action trying to help the guy. The rental guys wanted to come into Rockys to make sure the guy didn't get out of sight. But Rick denied them entry into the restaurant where the guy was sitting. After a while the policia national came, and then Rick allowed the rentals in so all parties could discuss the matter.

The result was the police would get a document drafted so they can arrest the guy. Figuring the police were handling the matter, the rental guys left, and the guy got out of sight to avoid an arrest. Even the next day Rick was still advising this guy on some options he could take. One of them was seeking alternative travel documents or even turning himself in so the situation doesn't escalate if he is detained at whatever airport he chooses to leave from. I would think someone trying to exit the country without their original passport would draw a red flag and possibly an investigation?Am I missing something? Why is this guy not responsible for the loss of the pasola. It seems he let a local 'buscon' borrow the pasola and he did not return it. If this happened in the US or Canada I am sure the rental company would make you responsible for the loss. As to this being a scam, not likely, just a series of mistakes made by a naive rookie.

Grandnash84
07-23-13, 06:27
Two trucks of armed / helmeted National police surrounded D'Latins and swarmed the place, last night around 11:30. The bar was just beginning to fill up. Maybe 200 people or so. All men were directed to one side of the bar, all women to the other. The Police checked all the ladies IDs and detained those who did not have them. They were looking for minors. I do not know if they found any, but some people were escorted out and detained. Men were randomly searched. Those who copped attitudes, were hassled and had to show their IDs. The place was on lock-down for about 30 minutes. It was not a pleasant experience.Sucks about the raids, but at the same time D'latin is fucking up Sosua.

The Mind Bender
07-23-13, 09:05
It has been reported that Passions was shut down last night by tourism board. Guy on the ground saw the sign on the door. If this is true ,rubber is meeting the road. I don't use Passions but many guys swear by the place. It seems to be very well run and an institution in Sosua. If there I more info chime in. Cube Dave is slitting his wrist as we speak.If they're really trying to crack down then a lot of people will be out of work / without money (restaurants, hotels. Etc)

Doesn't make sense since mongering bring a lot of $$$ in tourism.

My bet is Passions won't be gone for long

Bravo
07-23-13, 10:36
Two trucks of armed / helmeted National police surrounded D'Latins and swarmed the place, last night around 11:30. The bar was just beginning to fill up. Maybe 200 people or so. All men were directed to one side of the bar, all women to the other. The Police checked all the ladies IDs and detained those who did not have them. They were looking for minors. I do not know if they found any, but some people were escorted out and detained. Men were randomly searched. Those who copped attitudes, were hassled and had to show their IDs. The place was on lock-down for about 30 minutes. It was not a pleasant experience.I was in D'Latins in May when the police were searching for someone. These were a different kind of police. They weren't wearing any kind of uniform, all were in street clothes with a badge hanging around their necks and pistols on their hips. (only about 5 cops in the group). They had management turn off the music and everyone just stared at them as they talked to Willy for about 20 minutes. They walked around the club for about for a couple of minutes and then left. Really strange!

Bravo
07-23-13, 10:47
I agree with all your points. Look what happened to Help in Brazil. Kenny giving boat cruises in Rio was not taking kindly as many of you know. Atheletes, entertainers coming down no problem. Groups of people in white T's let's not kid ourselves. That does not go over well. Sorry, but the truth and I am Black. Although, people behave most of the time a lot of places do not want that look. Add prostitutes to that mix, and you will have people wanting to end that sooner or later. Call it what you want, but people do not want to see that.I understand your points, but your way off if your trying to link (Young Black Men going to Rio = The closing of Help).

1) Help closed because Rio won the Olympics! Simple as that! It had absolutely nothing to do with the races of men who were going to Rio. Once they were selected to host the games, it could have been 100% Germans with blond hair and blue eyes going into the club every night and they still would have closed Help down.

2) The whole "Young knuckleheads who were acted like they never had any home training time period. Was over by 2004) When the dollars started losing its value, the young guys stopped going to Brasil because it was too expensive. Help didn't close until when? 2010? By then, the young hip hop phase had stopped years earlier.

Trust, if Rio didn't get the Olympics, Help would still be going strong today!

Orgasmico
07-23-13, 11:31
According to that dude, David, Passions was raided and drugs were found and Peter got locked up. Passions is closed for now.

Does this mean the Passions chicas were in D'Latin last night or are they "working" somewhere else?