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GrouchoMarx
12-03-07, 00:02
Having been to Sosua numerous times, and having met her/their family/ies more than once, the rule of Three F's (find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them) seems to be the best approach. As a rule $1000 short time and $2000 'toda la noche' is more than fair. Bartenders seem to fetch higher prices, and I don't normally go with them.
I bring gifts of girlie stuff (lipstick, hair ornaments), and 'regalo' them at irregular intervals. "Here is $1500 pesos for the 'salon' (hairdresser)".
Another day or 2 may pass before another gift is forthcoming (a cheap knock off watch from China). This seems to work best for me. The girls like me, and genuinely look out for me. The gifts are in addition to, not in lieu of money.
I have also given out some more valuable gifts when it seemed appropriate (English/Spanish talking electronic dictionary to a girl who was serious about learning English, real 'name brand' perfume to a chambermaid who requested it). There is one important bit of advice which I would like to offer. Never tell them when you are leaving town. When they ask you can either be evasive or if necessary lie and tell them that you are staying longer than you really are.
Caballero Oscuro
12-03-07, 01:09
Day 2
Only disappointment was I thought all the chicas were not very emotional. I always thought latin women were very emotional with there sexuality. Walked Ms. 9. 5 home in the morning and she gave me her cell #. Told me she wanted another T. L. N. Tonight, told her I would call her, right. Wen't fishing.
F. D.I just got back from my 1st DR trip on the south coast and I can honestly say that me speaking decent Espanol made all the difference in my experiences with chicas and avoiding the local vendors, peddlers and other harassers. I had nothing but top notch GFE experiences because I was able to connect to chicas on a personal level. I spent at least 1 hour w/ each chica prior sex just talking and flirting. Putas are like non P4P women in the regard that a little finesse will go a long way. Show or just even fake a little bit of interest in them and they will happily go the extra mile to please you for far less than standard pricing.
Naked Gunz
12-03-07, 10:05
I just got back from my 1st DR trip on the south coast and I can honestly say that me speaking decent Espanol made all the difference in my experiences with chicas and avoiding the local vendors, peddlers and other harassers. I had nothing but top notch GFE experiences because I was able to connect to chicas on a personal level. I spent at least 1 hour w/ each chica prior sex just talking and flirting. Putas are like non P4P women in the regard that a little finesse will go a long way. Show or just even fake a little bit of interest in them and they will happily go the extra mile to please you for far less than standard pricing.
Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.
Hello together
Its beeing a while since my last report here. I've went to Sosua several times and I really like it there. My plan are to move over and stay there for ever.
I know a lot of people leaving there and many of the putas too. I treat them nicely and can speak some spanish. I talk with them directly and sometimes I hear stories from them which I hardly can believe. I try several time to have a gf there to stay the hole of my holiday and even keep in contact when I'm back home in Switzerland.
Its nice when someone decides to send them money from overseas, but like the other here talking, don't think the girls are just waiting when you come back.
Here are some short stories I saw there:
I went once with a girl to western union to pick up money. The funny thing was, she was picking up money from 3 different man from all over the world. And it was a really nice amount, cus she was telling them, that her mother was really sick and she can not afford the medico. But I know, that her mother was killed in a shooting long time ago.
Another girl I had to help her to open a email account and translate a email for her so called novio, that her son was injured by a accident and she needs money for the hospital. Her son? I never know she had one, smile. Well at the end she said to me, for your work you did for me, lets have some fun together, I think you know what I mean.
When I was having a session with one girl, her phone was ringing and she said, ups her novio from Canada was calling. I said no problem. But she wasn't speaking English so I had to be the translator too. I had to tell him, that I'm running a bar and she was sitting there, smile.
Another girl was calling her man in Germany and told him, that the baby of them died. He was shocked, cus he didn't know they had a baby together. She said you didn't know I was pregnant from you and I just lost the baby now. He booked his next flight to meet her. She picked him up at the airport in a black dress. Went with him to see the grave and he spent a lot of money for her. When he went back, the party was starting.
I was once with a girl and she was playing to much with me, so I send her away. When I saw here again, she wanted to come back to me, but I said no. She was crying and ask again and again to come back. So I told her, you know you are such a good actress, why you didn't go to Hollywood to be a actress there. Then she was laughing and thinks are over.
And so many of the girls over there are good actress sometimes even better, then in a good movie so that many man gives hes money away really fast.
Well sorry about that long story but just so you know what can maybe happen. On my last trip in June I meet a nice girl there and we both like each other. I know she works as a puta and I didn't have any problem with that. But we spend some nice time and sometimes during daytime I was working a bit on computer I was send her to the beach or so. And told her, that I didn't have any problem if she is going with another man. So know we still in contact and I will meet her again in December. During the phone calls and emails we had since June she was never ever asking me for any money. But I have sent her 2 time some, once for her birthday and another time just cus I like.
So to come to end I will be in the dominican from the 17. December till the 10. Of January the first 3 days in Santo Domingo to extend my documents and then in Sosua.
Sorry about my bad English as German is my mother tongue.
Maybe see some of you in December or January in Sosua. My trip after will be in April.
Don Ben
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Having been to Sosua numerous times, and having met her/their family/ies more than once, the rule of Three F's (find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them) seems to be the best approach. As a rule $1000 short time and $2000 'toda la noche' is more than fair. Bartenders seem to fetch higher prices, and I don't normally go with them.
I bring gifts of girlie stuff (lipstick, hair ornaments), and 'regalo' them at irregular intervals. "Here is $1500 pesos for the 'salon' (hairdresser)".
Another day or 2 may pass before another gift is forthcoming (a cheap knock off watch from China). This seems to work best for me. The girls like me, and genuinely look out for me. The gifts are in addition to, not in lieu of money.
I have also given out some more valuable gifts when it seemed appropriate (English/Spanish talking electronic dictionary to a girl who was serious about learning English, real 'name brand' perfume to a chambermaid who requested it). There is one important bit of advice which I would like to offer. Never tell them when you are leaving town. When they ask you can either be evasive or if necessary lie and tell them that you are staying longer than you really are.
FD, best of luck buddy. The decision is yours and you will live or die by your call.
I forgot to point out that as above, I have also been taken to meet families before (3 separate chicas) and did the family dinner things, party and all that jazz. It is not that unusual, as long as you are not a complety asshole and are respectful and a bit funny/charming there is a good chance that will happen.
Other comments:
In my last trip I was dishing 500 for about 3hr, 1000 LT. I would always get up in the morning, do my am fuck, shower afterwards, get dressed to go out and I would tell them "sorry honey but I have to meet some friends/do some reading or work" so here is 1K "go buy yourself some clothes" If they reacted whiny or asked for more without tact than I know I would not see them again and I just give them a stare. If they tactfully ask for more and they were good than another couple of hundy or even a fiver was handed over.
As far as the gifting I do it in combination with the $: I always start with $ cuz that is what they need, if they become novia for a couple of days then I give a small gift here or there but by then there is no formal exchange of moneys for boning services as they are "novias"...it does become a lot less expensive when they are novias but...hey...you do lose the variety (and remember at that point you are paying for meals, getting drunk, maybe a short trip).
Oh well, everyone has a different style. Back in the DR and in Sosua next week...see you guys there!
Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.
I highy recommend the set of CD's Learn in Your Car Spanish (Penton Overseas). About $30 for the whole set from Amazon. I got them a few years ago and have used nothing else and I am very good on verbs. The great thing about this course is exactly that you simply learn your way from zero to hero by parroting Spanish. That is all you have to do. Parrot and parrot and soon you will be dreaming in Spanish. You could use Windows Media player to translate to mp3 and put them on your mp3 player.
Regarding novias. In the four years I have been going to the DR I have always had a novia.
Yes, they do cost you money, but you learn a lot about the culture of the country, and the language by having a novia. With my first novia I traveled all over the DR with her as guide.
Whether the relationship works out over the long run or not depends on the individuals concerned. We can argue for ever about whether the girls you meet are lifelong putas or innocents. I think that most of them would prefer to have a real relationship to being a puta and having to make money by having sex with men they find unattractive, but that having good intentions is not enough, perhaps because they do not have the relationship skills or mental talents to make a living in some other way. Certainly it would be very unusual to find one, puta or non puta, who has any intellectual interests that go beyond telenovellas.
I once had a minirelationship after three years of courtship with a nonputa who was very religious minded. She kept her virginity until her wedding night, though a few months later she let me fuck her a few times in the hope that I would contribute a stove to the marital home. (She had to make do with a pair of sneakers.) In spite of her lack of experience she was better in the sack than most putas and I still have a soft spot for her (or hard spot).
One of the HUGE advantages of a novia is that it is relatively easy to negotiate sex without condoms. Of course you will need a mutual compact that you both only fuck bareback with each other and such contracts are not always iron clad. To me sex minus condom is about three times better than sex with condom and the difference becomes even greater in an ongoing relationship. I might fuck a girl once or twice with a condom, but if I want to have more sex with her, it will probably have to be without.
Right now, to be honest, I really can't be bothered with sex with girls other than my novia. It does not seem like a cost efficient procedure, and I have had sex with enough Dominicanas and Haitianas that there are few surprises in store for me.
However, having a novia also gives you leverage, because they become very dependent on you for what you provide, so you are in a powerful negotiating position when it comes to sex. Right now my novia is under notice that she is expected to give up her lesbian virginity under my supervision on my next trip. She is protesting, but she knows what she has to do to keep her novio happy, and she will do it.
So a man in his fifties gets to enjoy a lesbian orgy with two or three young twenties, along with bareback fucking one of the participants. How much exactly is that worth, and is there something better available where you live?
MiamiHeatLuver
12-03-07, 20:16
Last month when I was there, I went to that bar with the pool table next to Lou's. Me and my boy start macking to two little cuties there and start with the hand-holding and little kisses and sweet nothings into our ears,, and all that b.s. so we make a date to meet at CLASSICO'S after they get out at 1am. There is no way im paying salida ANYWHERE. So me and my boy head over to classicos and bump into some previous chicas we had earlier in the day. A few hours later we get taps on our shoulder, Its the 2 girls from the bar, They start rubbing up on us, and get mad because we are dancing with other girls, almost like a "hey why didnt you wait till we got here" yeah right,lol. Anyway we get down to business right away because I dont wanna waste anytime and I ask her how much for TLN.. from that point on.. She tells me 3000.. Even tough she is pretty cute, I will NEVER pay 3000 in the DR, NEVER! So I put on this look of shock and surprise and tell her "im sure your kidding" you must have me confused with a uninformed newbie.. I look over to my boy and tell him that "Hey this chick just asked me for 3000. He looks at me "YEA me too" After some protest and sarcastic laughs, The chicks didnt even wait for us to counter offer, we look over our shoulder and they were out the door. Later we see them over at the casino ALONE and trying to molest some Canadians. Me and my boy? settled for some regular 1500 TLN's. It seems to me that they had this pre-meditated assumption that we are going to start to ask for 3000k and we are taking no less.. Casino closes, I hop on my scooter and go home with my regular and see the 2 girls hop on a motoconch alone..
Miami...just curious:
Do you think that being a little more patient or less blunt on bring up the $$ may have resulted on a lower quote?
Or maybe they had done the math incorporating the salida that yes...one should never pay.
MiamiHeatLuver
12-03-07, 21:47
Miami...just curious:
Do you think that being a little more patient or less blunt on bring up the $$ may have resulted on a lower quote?
Or maybe they had done the math incorporating the salida that yes...one should never pay.
No because we were already at Classicos, so that WASNT including salida.I definately dont think it was rushed because we already spent like 2 hrs prior talking b.s. and drinking beers and Mama Juana shots at the bar.. I just think they talked prior and said "we are asking and getting NO LESS than 3000" period. They wanted to start a revolution. But my other friend there said that the girls are starting to get bolder and ask for 3000 and up AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING IT.. I had one cutie I met on the beach who says an Italian pays her 4000 for 2hrs.. I told her good for her and payed her 1500 for 2 hrs, but she was really cute and fresh so I made the exception.
No because we were already at Classicos, so that WASNT including salida.I definately dont think it was rushed because we already spent like 2 hrs prior talking b.s. and drinking beers and Mama Juana shots at the bar.. I just think they talked prior and said "we are asking and getting NO LESS than 3000" period. They wanted to start a revolution. But my other friend there said that the girls are starting to get bolder and ask for 3000 and up AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING IT.. I had one cutie I met on the beach who says an Italian pays her 4000 for 2hrs.. I told her good for her and payed her 1500 for 2 hrs, but she was really cute and fresh so I made the exception.
The cost of living in the DR is going up all the time. The value of the dollar relative to the euro is falling all the time.
There are probably some very cute girls who really clean up and make a lot of money, but for most girls, especially in the lower seasons of the year, clients are few and far between so they will want to cash in if they can.
Right now is high season in the DR and the more attractive girls may feel that by application of game theory they can get more money for less work by being selective and holding out for higher prices.
Speaking Spanish and being nice to the girls may get you added value both in terms of lower prices and enhanced performance. By being nice to the girls, I mean just recognizing who they are and taking the trouble to find out what is important in to them in their lives.
In the end the market is a market and supply and demand will meet somewhere in the middle.
Soon it will be what is the point of going to the DR anyways?
Might as well go to the Phils, Colombia or other areas for varying reasons.
Truth be told I was not going to return to the DR but since I do not have much time and it was a free tix then I went for it.
I will make it a mission to not go over 1500, will test Adam Smith's theories in high season and report back. And just in case I will bring some sports mags to read.....
I hear you fellow mongers. Been going down every month for the past 2 years or so. Started in SD. Found a great novia. I would pay for restaurants and stuff and the rest was free. Had like a 6 month relationship then it got too much for me. At her age (30 or so) she was emotionally insecure, I couldn't bear it anymore, especially when I wasn't giving her any reasons to be gealous. So thanks to you guys, I decided to check up Sosua. BEST THING ever happened to me. So I've been there over 15 times. And the first 10 times I was just living la vida loca. Every day 2 diffferent chickas (always treat 'them with respect) yet never more than 1500 for TLD. I made friends, got to some local parties in the barrios. Got some amazing gems. I had a policy. Never the same chica twice. Got to a point when every 30 min I would know one that was walking by and she always stopped to say Hello, even if she was with a gringo. I only once paid 3000. Got to met her by chance, ended up with her TLN. She was INCREDIBLE. Never ever ever experienced anything like it. In the morning she asked me for 3000, I immediately said YES. I know that I will remember when I'll be 70 (if).
Now I have my novia (I know what you're thinking) yet she is the one. She lives in Sosua but because of her circumstances and I was the one who brought her for her first ever in Classicos.
Peace!
Caballero Oscuro
12-04-07, 03:27
Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.Try Rosetta Stone. It's been the only tool I used to refresh my spanish lessons from years ago in high school.
I am not the politically correct type usually; however, Haitians are Haitian and not African. They are of African descent as are the Many of the Dominicans that you refer to as Latins. Skin color alone does not indicate race, ethnicity or Nationality.
You know whats funny Bravo35 his favorite kind of ass is Haitian ass...lol
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=588799#post588799
Caballero Oscuro
12-04-07, 06:21
Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.Also another good tip is to focus only on present, preterite, future, conditional and progressive tenses. Virtually all chicas will not speak in the perfect, imperfect and subjunctive tenses. Also the vosotros form is rarely spoken among the common people of Latin America.
Also another good tip is to focus only on present, preterite, future, conditional and progressive tenses. Virtually all chicas will not speak in the perfect, imperfect and subjunctive tenses. Also the vosotros form is rarely spoken among the common people of Latin America.
Well i don`t know where you stayed, and with kind of people you did hang out with, cause the girls i got to know so far in SDQ, Cabarete... ( UASD students...) they did use all the tenses which you said they would not.
Especially the subjunctive with all it`s different forms is used alot in cuba, D.R....
I don´t know your level of spanish, but in general the subjunctive is used for wishes, desires....so for example if you want somebody to show up at your place you say quiero que vengas a mi casa instead of vienes...
Also another good tip is to focus only on present, preterite, future, conditional and progressive tenses. Virtually all chicas will not speak in the perfect, imperfect and subjunctive tenses. Also the vosotros form is rarely spoken among the common people of Latin America.
This is absolutely wrong as far as Spanish spoken in the DR goes, though correct about vostotros. I cannot speak for other places.
In the DR the forms used for the second person are tu (singular) and ustedes (plural).
Chicas use the imperfect a lot. "Donde estabas?" (Where have you been?). "Estaba caminando en la playa". (I was walking at the beach).
The perfect tense is used a great deal and I recommend it as it is also very easy to use. "He comprado unos regalitos por ti". (I have bought some gifts for you.) "Que has hecho hoy" (What did you do today?).
Subjunctive. "Deseo que venga con tigo en tu hotel". (I would like to come with you to your hotel.)
OyiboAfrica
12-04-07, 20:10
Hi guys,
Eltoro gringo had posted some pics of a girl with quiet a number of tattoos and based on his reply her name is lexi. I would love to hook up with her, however still trying to find out where to find her. I am I'm in sosua at the moment till next week. Does any of you know where she can be found?
Thanks for replies
Hamster101
12-05-07, 01:43
Lexi lives in Los Charimcos, she works at a salon there, I do not know the name but it is green in color and it is on a corner across from a store.
I hope this helps, E G
Cunning Linguist
12-05-07, 14:48
This is absolutely wrong as far as Spanish spoken in the DR goes, though correct about vostotros. I cannot speak for other places.
In the DR the forms used for the second person are tu (singular) and ustedes (plural).
Chicas use the imperfect a lot. "Donde estabas?" (Where have you been?). "Estaba caminando en la playa". (I was walking at the beach).
The perfect tense is used a great deal and I recommend it as it is also very easy to use. "He comprado unos regalitos por ti". (I have bought some gifts for you.) "Que has hecho hoy" (What did you do today?).
Subjunctive. "Deseo que venga con tigo en tu hotel". (I would like to come with you to your hotel.)
I am sorry to correct your Spanish but the correct way would be either
1. Quisiera venir contigo a tu hotel.
or
2. Me gustaría venir contigo a tu hotel. (I would prefer, me gustaría acompañarte al hotel)
Essentially, if the subject of both clauses is the same, there is no subjunctive used.
Also, you would say
Te he comprado unos regalos a tí (though I would suspect that in the DR they would say "regalitos"
"Vosotros" is used exclusively in Spain and if it is heard at all in Latin America, it is in only in literature and in scripture.
OyiboAfrica
12-05-07, 15:26
Lexi lives in Los Charimcos, she works at a salon there, I do not know the name but it is green in color and it is on a corner across from a store.
I hope this helps, E GThanks gringo. will let you know if I find and have her.
Canadian Cowboy
12-05-07, 20:40
I have an oppurtunity to rent a private condo on there grounds with access to there facilities. Private security and ability to bring home guests how close am I to the action. It should cost me 1000 us for 14 days? A good deal for the privacy I thought. Very good company as well.
Anythoughts?
Canadian Cowboy
12-05-07, 20:51
What are the best Clubs / Mp ?FS Clubs in the area. I will be in Sousa for a month in Feb. would like the lay down.
CC
I have an oppurtunity to rent a private condo on there grounds with access to there facilities. Private security and ability to bring home guests how close am I to the action. It should cost me 1000 us for 14 days? A good deal for the privacy I thought. Very good company as well.
Anythoughts?
Your 1 block away.
What are the best Clubs / Mp ?FS Clubs in the area. I will be in Sousa for a month in Feb. would like the lay down.
CC
Classico disco on the main street.
Playa Chiquita casino also has a disco.
What are the best Clubs / Mp ?FS Clubs in the area. I will be in Sousa for a month in Feb. would like the lay down.
CC
The best massage parlor in Sosua is called La Passion which is at the very end of the pedro clisante street.
The main discos in Sosua are the merengue bar, classico`s, latino`s club and the sosua life bar.
Hope this uploads. Nothing special Sosua bar girl.Actually a BB's girl
Uptown Spc
12-06-07, 23:51
Taking a quick survey on the best location to have an unforgettable 30th birthday celebration with three of my best friends in Sosua. Looking for the best location to have plenty of ladies and lots of fun. I have looked into two villas and confirmation on both but just looking for thoughts and/or opinions. First time in Sosua, stayed in Puerta Plata six months ago, and want to take full advantage of all Sosua has to offer. Thanks
Option #1 is Villa Hispaniola Villa 7 and Villa 12
www.hispaniolarealestate.com
Option #2 is Villa Casa Blanca
http://www.vrbo.com/128204
Phreeman69
12-07-07, 04:38
I may be in Sosua from the day after Christmas through New Years. Do the girls go home for Navedad, or will there still be plenty in town?
I don't want to find out that there are tons of guys there with the week off and now chicas.
Is it busy generally during the holidays?
OyiboAfrica
12-07-07, 06:20
As bars have to close early (1:00am Sun. Thurs and 2:00am Fri& Sun) the casino night club has turned into a good meeting point. Nightclub is alright, however Casino sucks as Management does not pay their staff well and just want to maxime their profit. This results in unhappy staff and service, very cheap alcohol, some very interesting "game" rules and senior management pissing off their clients. Nightclub Yes. Casino a very BIG NO.
I've been reading in the past forums, trying to get piece everything together but I still had a few questions:
What villa/apartment/condos are availible for rent that are close to the main strip that are chica friendly?
How close is the beach to the main strip?
Is there a street map availiable on the net?
Thanks in advance!
As bars have to close early (1:00am Sun. Thurs and 2:00am Fri& Sun) the casino night club has turned into a good meeting point. Nightclub is alright, however Casino sucks as Management does not pay their staff well and just want to maxime their profit. This results in unhappy staff and service, very cheap alcohol, some very interesting "game" rules and senior management pissing off their clients. Nightclub Yes. Casino a very BIG NO.
The 1 drawback of the casino disco is the bullshit 200 pesos cover charge to gringos only.
I've been reading in the past forums, trying to get piece everything together but I still had a few questions:
What villa/apartment/condos are availible for rent that are close to the main strip that are chica friendly?
How close is the beach to the main strip?
Is there a street map availiable on the net?
Thanks in advance!
The beach is a 5 minute walk away.
The issue with the villa/apartment/condos is that with most you need a rental car. Try the New Garden Hotel.
Dfivehombre
12-08-07, 13:33
Hey Guys,
A newbie here.- A newbie to the DR, but not to the activity. I have made several visits to Total Satisfaction in Margarita Island, Venezuela.
Greatly appreciate all of the writings on the board which have helped prepare me for my debut visit to BB in 3 weeks. I hope to have a great time, and I hope to become a contributor to the board.
Two quick questions.-
1. Has anyone visited both Total Satisfaction and BB's, and can offer any comparisons of the two resorts?
2. Is it possible to exchange Travelers checks at BB's or Jenny's?
As bars have to close early (1:00am Sun. Thurs and 2:00am Fri& Sun) the casino night club has turned into a good meeting point. Nightclub is alright, however Casino sucks as Management does not pay their staff well and just want to maxime their profit. This results in unhappy staff and service, very cheap alcohol, some very interesting "game" rules and senior management pissing off their clients. Nightclub Yes. Casino a very BIG NO.
Fuck the Casino Club in Sosua!!!!! I will never go into that club anymore they over charge gringos for drinks and like it was mentioned before locals dont have to pay to enter the club fuck that if we pay the locals have to pay to enter also. This bull shit doesnt happen in Rio at Club Help ever one pays to enter locals and gringos.
As bars have to close early (1:00am Sun. Thurs and 2:00am Fri& Sun) the casino night club has turned into a good meeting point. Nightclub is alright, however Casino sucks as Management does not pay their staff well and just want to maxime their profit. This results in unhappy staff and service, very cheap alcohol, some very interesting "game" rules and senior management pissing off their clients. Nightclub Yes. Casino a very BIG NO.
In case gambling is your thing you should check out the ocean blue casino in cabarete. The casino was built 5 years ago and the interior is brand new. In this casino there is no cover charge to get in, they also provide secure parking, guards.....(i did check out this place in march 2007)
The staff provides great service and there are no interesting "game" rules at all in this place.
Above the casino is also a nightclub (the only one in cabarete which stays open till 5 am in the morning) which gets busy round about 1 am in the morning when all the other bars/clubs are shut down. Cover charge to get in is 200 pesos which has to be paid by everybody dominicans as well as foreigners.
Mr Enternational
12-08-07, 19:42
I haven't been on this thread in a couple of months because it's been that long since I have been to the DR. I only came today to copy some info for a friend who headed down to Sosua this morning. However, backtracking over the last few pages I could not believe what I was reading:
Gentelmen
Thanks for sharing your experiences, thoughts and opinions. I thought I might get a variety responses from the board members, and I did. I was looking for the tough love, staight shooting from you guys, and you provided it. Thank You very much.
Regarding the Novia situation, just so you know, I asked her. I was on a hump & dump mission when we met. Her demeanor impressed me so much I wanted to spend more time with her.
Yeah. I was impressed by Denzel's demeanor in Malcom X, but it didn't make me think he was THE Malcolm X. And of course, after, I wanted to see more of his movies. Acting.
I wasn't blinded by meeting her family, nor the fact that western union may come into play, because of the board members reporting their experiences.
Is that why you are even considering sending money? 10 out of 10 mongers have said it's a scam. However, the odds being what they are you think you will beat the house and make it only 10 out of 11 mongers who will be scammed.
Thats why I wanted to share mine, so guys in my situation would have no misconceptions. As you read, after my "Haitian Tigre" experience I wanted to leave the country and try something different. Now I look forward to getting back to see my novia, isn't that worth something.
It's actually not worth a damned thing. I lost once on the blackjack table and after that I was hot on the craps table. Doesn't mean I'm just itching to play craps again or that I will never again look at a blackjack table.
In the end, I think I will send something from time to time to help out. I am not assuming that she will be mine exclusively.
Great assumption Einstein. Because you can bet between now and the 180 days until you return to Sosua maybe 20 Dominicanos and 60 gringoes will have gone through her. Again, I'm not one to tell a grown man how to spend his hard-earned money, but what, pray tell, might be your purpose for sending money to a grown woman/stranger whom you have known all of 24 hours?
I know that I want to see her again. As you read, she's not a 10, but we had a great connection I don't want to lose. So if I can keep a connection until my return, by helping her out from time to time. In my opion I don't think that is a bad thing.
Oh you will most definitely be able to see her again. I doubt that she will be taking any African safaris or planned vacations to the Pacific Islands anytime soon. She probably won't even make it over to Santiago, which is only stone's throw away from Sosua. If you want to keep a connection going then do it by good old fashioned telephone or email. But then again, I don't know of anything that can get you connected faster or keep you connected like YOUR MONEY!
Especially the way that you have passed it out in liberal portions. 6000 pesos in less than 24 hours to the same chica? I don't think I have ever spent that much total in the DR on any one trip on anything outside of a place to stay.
Again, thank you gentlemen & board for all the help. I hope in all your endevours you find what your looking for! Oh, and on my wingman, Johnny. He was great, we learned alot from each other. My culture and his, we have connected a few times since I made it back to the states. My trip wasn't strickly to hunt punta. I wanted to learn a little about the culture too. F. D.
And just what kind of culture did you experience in the mongering town of Sosua? How was the art exhibit that was on display from July 2007 - Jan 2008? Did you get down to the new Shakespeare Theatre and see the Dominican rendition of the Tempest? At least you got the local jargon from this year down pat right? (Come to think of it do you even speak Spanish? Does she speak English?--What a connection)
Allow me to supplement with excerpts from past posts from first Bubba Boy, then from myself:
578994
I would like to take this opportunity to thank the dude from Houston for sending R5000 per month to my current Brasilian "girlfriend". I thought at first he might be a cool dude with just to much cash, but after banging the said girl while she was actually talking to him on the phone, not once but 3 times, I am thinking maybe just a fool. When are these guys going to learn.
How much do I pay her for a bang? Answer: Nothing. She even stocked my fridge with Red Bull and Softdrink on his debit card. The bill was R62.35, theres a good clue for the guy if he is reading, I still have the receipt in the bottom of the bag.
579268
Like I have said one million times, you have to look at it like it´s a carnival. When you arrive you pay your money to enter, you ride all the rides, you eat the popcorn and cotton candy, then you take your happy ass home until next time. You can not take the rides home with you as some people try to do. You have to leave them there for the next group of people who want to visit the carnival. I would not think of sending Six Flags money every month after I have left, expecting them to section off the ´Scream Machine´ and let no one else ride until I return.
So guys keep the money coming in and I, like Bubba, will continue to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Phreeman69
12-09-07, 00:06
How close is the beach to the main strip?
Is there a street map availiable on the net?Here's a street map:
http://www.********/media/data/509/sosuamap.jpg
The bars are on Pedro Clisante street, which runs through town parallel to the highway. From the corner of Clisante & Dr Rosen street (more or less the center of the bar scene) it's about 10 minutes walk to the beach along either street.
Charlie Horse
12-09-07, 04:53
I would not think of sending Six Flags money every month after I have left, expecting them to section off the ´Scream Machine´ and let no one else ride until I return.
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POST of the Year !!!
Looking for short time room rental in Sousa (probally 2-3 hrs). Coming from the Playa Dorada complex. Is there place where I do not need to use ID, just pay for room and go with girl. If so I need the names of these places and the prices.
This is without any doubt the best post I have seen in a very long time!
Once a working girl always a working girl...until bad looks and age force them to stop.
Is there a street map availiable on the net?
Thanks in advance!
Sosua is such a small, small city but I agree a map does help.
http://www.gringo-times.com/maps/sosua-map.php
Enjoy.............
Someone asked me about Rockys but i dont know much . Can someone give me the info on this place . Where and hos is it ?
Thanks ,
JOhn jr
Sosua is such a small, small city but I agree a map does help.
http://www.gringo-times.com/maps/sosua-map.php
Enjoy.............Thanks for the info!
Looking for short time room rental in Sousa (probally 2-3 hrs). Coming from the Playa Dorada complex. Is there place where I do not need to use ID, just pay for room and go with girl. If so I need the names of these places and the prices.
Try the Calypsus fuck motel in Sosua. St is 300pesos ( round about 9 bucks) and toda la nocha 700 pesos (round about 20 bucks). No id required, and most people will know it
Someone asked me about Rockys but i dont know much . Can someone give me the info on this place . Where and hos is it ?
Rockys is a bare bones hotel located on Calle Dr Rosen. You need to walk thru the restaurant area to reach your room. The rooms are no more than a bed on four cinder blocks, a small tv and a bath. There is no room safe and no security guard on duty. Rockys is a cheap hotel.
Someone asked me about Rockys but i dont know much . Can someone give me the info on this place . Where and hos is it?
Thanks,
John jrRockys has a restaurant,internet,and is right in the middle of everthing.It also is a mongers hangout,but the rooms are very basic.
I haven't been on this thread in a couple of months because it's been that long since I have been to the DR. I only came today to copy some info for a friend who headed down to Sosua this morning. However, backtracking over the last few pages I could not believe what I was reading:
Yeah. I was impressed by Denzel's demeanor in Malcom X, but it didn't make me think he was THE Malcolm X. And of course, after, I wanted to see more of his movies. Acting.
Is that why you are even considering sending money? 10 out of 10 mongers have said it's a scam. However, the odds being what they are you think you will beat the house and make it only 10 out of 11 mongers who will be scammed.
It's actually not worth a damned thing. I lost once on the blackjack table and after that I was hot on the craps table. Doesn't mean I'm just itching to play craps again or that I will never again look at a blackjack table.
Great assumption Einstein. Because you can bet between now and the 180 days until you return to Sosua maybe 20 Dominicanos and 60 gringoes will have gone through her. Again, I'm not one to tell a grown man how to spend his hard-earned money, but what, pray tell, might be your purpose for sending money to a grown woman/stranger whom you have known all of 24 hours?
Oh you will most definitely be able to see her again. I doubt that she will be taking any African safaris or planned vacations to the Pacific Islands anytime soon. She probably won't even make it over to Santiago, which is only stone's throw away from Sosua. If you want to keep a connection going then do it by good old fashioned telephone or email. But then again, I don't know of anything that can get you connected faster or keep you connected like YOUR MONEY!
Especially the way that you have passed it out in liberal portions. 6000 pesos in less than 24 hours to the same chica? I don't think I have ever spent that much total in the DR on any one trip on anything outside of a place to stay.
And just what kind of culture did you experience in the mongering town of Sosua? How was the art exhibit that was on display from July 2007 - Jan 2008? Did you get down to the new Shakespeare Theatre and see the Dominican rendition of the Tempest? At least you got the local jargon from this year down pat right? (Come to think of it do you even speak Spanish? Does she speak English?--What a connection)
Allow me to supplement with excerpts from past posts from first Bubba Boy, then from myself:
578994
I would like to take this opportunity to thank the dude from Houston for sending R5000 per month to my current Brasilian "girlfriend". I thought at first he might be a cool dude with just to much cash, but after banging the said girl while she was actually talking to him on the phone, not once but 3 times, I am thinking maybe just a fool. When are these guys going to learn.
How much do I pay her for a bang? Answer: Nothing. She even stocked my fridge with Red Bull and Softdrink on his debit card. The bill was R62.35, theres a good clue for the guy if he is reading, I still have the receipt in the bottom of the bag.
579268
Like I have said one million times, you have to look at it like it´s a carnival. When you arrive you pay your money to enter, you ride all the rides, you eat the popcorn and cotton candy, then you take your happy ass home until next time. You can not take the rides home with you as some people try to do. You have to leave them there for the next group of people who want to visit the carnival. I would not think of sending Six Flags money every month after I have left, expecting them to section off the ´Scream Machine´ and let no one else ride until I return.
So guys keep the money coming in and I, like Bubba, will continue to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Some of what is written here is amusing, but I don't think it really tells the whole story.
Prostitution is a very precarious existence and while a few girls may earn a lot, most probably don't.
Does anyone here know how much per month it really costs for a chica to live in the DR?
You can rent a decent apartment in a non gringo area for $200 per month including utilities, so I guess you can get a liveable place for half that. Then you need clothes, cosmetics, food, medicines, dentistry, transportation, cell phone cards etc. Retail items typically cost more than in the US, though rent and utilities probably less. And that is not even counting beers.
Just taking a return journey in a public taxi five days a week would cost 1200 pesos per month versus 2000 pesos monthly basic wage for a waitress withoug tips.
Maybe you could get by on $600 per month, though that is assuming that you do not have other family members dependent on you, which is rarely the case. $600 per month would be 18,000 pesos. At 1000 pesos per client you would need 18 clients a month to break even.
I have no idea how many clients per month the AVERAGE chica gets. Maybe somebody has a better take than me on the numbers.
So it is not surprising that many Dominican girls are looking for a novio who will provide a way out of the DR for them. Since DR is the nation that provides the 4th largest number of immigrants to the US, and they also go to many other countries, clearly quite a large number are doing this successfully via the novio route.
If you sponsor a girl and send her money every month, will she cheat you? Probably she will. Having a source of funds may go to her head and she will flash her money around and be overgenerous to all her hangers on and get in over her head. She may resort to borrowing from street moneylenders and loan sharks who are everywhere, then have to invent imaginary illnesses for her novio to pay for so that she can get out of debt.
On the other hand, just to see the girls as rides in an amusement park hardly tells the whole story. Many of these girls have sad personal histories and have had very limited opportunities, but they do sincerely want to better themselves, although they don't necessarily know how and often get pulled back down by the people around them. The man who takes this point of view may himself be putting up psychological defences to avoid being hurt.
I think that if you feel you have special chemistry with a girl, there is no harm giving it a try, though you should be aware that every cent you send her may be money down the drain. The success or failure of a relationship can only be determined over a period of time and many interactions between two individuals.
You need to be able to visit frequently and you will encounter many problems in the relationship, but it could be rewarding. In any case, even if it fails, you will feel that at least you made an effort to improve someone's life.
A last note. If a relationship is to work, there has to be something more than sex. Sexual passion typically lasts six months, maybe longer if you are apart most of the time, so it is dangerous to make a major commitment early in the relationship.
World Jockey
12-11-07, 14:22
Ok I who is the monger that has been getting pumped by Kenia.
Very skinny girl with short blond hair.
Last time I saw her in a bar some buddies and I were taking pictures.
She ran off so she would not get caught in the background.
I asked her why and she said her gringo boyfriend sends her 1000 usd.
And she would not jepordize him seeing the pic and getting pissed off.
Mind you I had her for 20 bucks tln TWICE last year.
I am going to Sosua for the first time in early-mid January (second trip to DR, was at BB's in November).
Looking for a reasonably priced room/apartment with a good WiFi or in-room internet connection AND close to the action. Any help? Post here or PM me if you prefer.
I have scanned many of the threads but haven't seen what I am looking for (or missed the post). I would be staying 1 week to 10 days (depending on how long I want to stay in POP). I am a veteran of more than a decade of travel to Cuba and have spent a few months in Pattaya. My Spanish is above average.
The New Garden seems to fit your needs quite well.
I am going to Sosua for the first time in early-mid January (second trip to DR, was at BB's in November).
Looking for a reasonably priced room/apartment with a good WiFi or in-room internet connection AND close to the action. Any help? Post here or PM me if you prefer.
I have scanned many of the threads but haven't seen what I am looking for (or missed the post). I would be staying 1 week to 10 days (depending on how long I want to stay in POP). I am a veteran of more than a decade of travel to Cuba and have spent a few months in Pattaya. My Spanish is above average.
I am going to Sosua for the first time in early-mid January (second trip to DR, was at BB's in November).
Looking for a reasonably priced room/apartment with a good WiFi or in-room internet connection AND close to the action. Any help? Post here or PM me if you prefer.
I have scanned many of the threads but haven't seen what I am looking for (or missed the post). I would be staying 1 week to 10 days (depending on how long I want to stay in POP). I am a veteran of more than a decade of travel to Cuba and have spent a few months in Pattaya. My Spanish is above average.
Perla de Sosua apartments has all of this. Two bedroom apartments for about $50 per night. Three minutes walk from Classico, ditto to beach.
You can write Hans at donhansi at rentavillas dotcom and discuss your needs or ask him for the phone number and talk to him. He speaks fluent English, Spanish, and German.
Professor 1
12-11-07, 19:20
Looking for short time room rental in Sousa (probally 2-3 hrs). Coming from the Playa Dorada complex. Is there place where I do not need to use ID, just pay for room and go with girl. If so I need the names of these places and the prices.
Try the Hotel Calipso.
World Jockey
12-11-07, 20:39
And the op better do of quick talked to hans just last week and they and I barely got a room for January they were booked.
World Jockey
12-12-07, 02:05
Unless you like to gamble I don't see the purpose of the casino
If I'm not in the company of a woman at clasico by 2am I walk my ass home and go to sleep.
As bars have to close early (1:00am Sun. Thurs and 2:00am Fri& Sun) the casino night club has turned into a good meeting point. Nightclub is alright, however Casino sucks as Management does not pay their staff well and just want to maxime their profit. This results in unhappy staff and service, very cheap alcohol, some very interesting "game" rules and senior management pissing off their clients. Nightclub Yes. Casino a very BIG NO.Looks below.
God I need to stop posting from my phone.
Especially if there is no edit key.
Huge Hefner
12-12-07, 02:29
I am going to Sosua for the first time in early-mid January (second trip to DR, was at BB's in November).
Looking for a reasonably priced room/apartment with a good WiFi or in-room internet connection AND close to the action. Any help? Post here or PM me if you prefer.
I have scanned many of the threads but haven't seen what I am looking for (or missed the post). I would be staying 1 week to 10 days (depending on how long I want to stay in POP). I am a veteran of more than a decade of travel to Cuba and have spent a few months in Pattaya. My Spanish is above average.New Garden is the Best Spot in town for you
MiamiHeatLuver
12-12-07, 02:44
Ok I who is the monger that has been getting pumped by Kenia.
Very skinny girl with short blond hair.
Last time I saw her in a bar some buddies and I were taking pictures.
She ran off so she would not get caught in the background.
I asked her why and she said her gringo boyfriend sends her 1000 usd.
And she would not jepordize him seeing the pic and getting pissed off.
Mind you I had her for 20 bucks tln TWICE last year.
Any gringo or any PERSON PERIOD sending $1000/monthy or whatever to the hoe's in SOSEWER deserve anything that they get coming to them, whether good or bad.. a Great learning point, but very sad that that person has nobody to console with for advice..
Unless you like to gamble I don't see the purpose of the casino
If I'm not in the company of a woman at clasico by 2am I walk my ass home and go to sleep.
Cheap entertainment. If you are with a chica both you and she can get free drinks while playing at the tables. And if you break even or make a little money, you have a couple of hours diversion for nothing.
More Domino bar girl Sosua.A long time ago I went for a drive with a local guy on the highway from PP to Sosua. There were these "Car Wash" places where you get your car washed while you drink a beer with a pretty girl . Of course you need to know where you are going and speak some Spanish. I wonder if these places still exist.
Canadian Cowboy
12-14-07, 00:55
Anyone stay here got reviews of the place. I need something a little better than a basic room this seems to fit the bill. Can someone capare to New garden. Thanks. Any other hotels would be appriacated must be chica friendly.
CC
And Eltoro after XMAS I will set us both up.
By reading the reports here, seems like Sousa is the place to be for some p4p, price for chicas similar to many places in Central America, not like Santo Domingo very expensive for a 3rd world country. Can someone please clarify which hotel(s) below near La passions, classicos, beach, casinos and discos.
- New garden
- Rockys
- coco
- europa
Thanks in advance
By reading the reports here, seems like Sousa is the place to be for some p4p, price for chicas similar to many places in Central America, not like Santo Domingo very expensive for a 3rd world country. Can someone please clarify which hotel(s) below near La passions, classicos, beach, casinos and discos.
- New garden
- Rockys
- coco
- europa
Thanks in advance
All of them are within walking distance, but the casino is a few minutes ride by motoconcho. Sosua is a small place.
Anyone stay here got reviews of the place. I need something a little better than a basic room this seems to fit the bill. Can someone capare to New garden. Thanks. Any other hotels would be appriacated must be chica friendly.
CC
And Eltoro after XMAS I will set us both up.
I saw one of the apartments the last time I was there. Its a really nice place with all the ammenities you would want.
Two things -
1. If you stay longer than two weeks you need to pay your own electric bill.
2. They have a one guest policy every 24 hrs. So if your bedroom is usually a revolving door it may not work out. They do this because there are alot of families staying there.
Otherwise thats where Im staying my next trip. Its in a pretty good location as well. Too bad its not on the ocean.
Anyone stay here got reviews of the place. I need something a little better than a basic room this seems to fit the bill. Can someone capare to New garden.
Club Residencial is probably one of the best guest friendly hotels in Sosua, but it comes with a hefty price tag. Room rates are $55 + 16% tax + $14 for A/C + $10 for superior apartment per day.
Club R is a very, very long walk to the beach and a long walk to the clubs. So add another $5 a day motoconcho cost.
New Garden is no where near as nice as Club R but a lot more convenient. Casa Valeria is another option.
MiamiHeatLuver
12-14-07, 16:43
Anyone stay here got reviews of the place. I need something a little better than a basic room this seems to fit the bill. Can someone capare to New garden. Thanks. Any other hotels would be appriacated must be chica friendly.
CC
And Eltoro after XMAS I will set us both up.
Just cut all the crap and go to Europa.. Not the CLEANEST, but clean enough, VERY CHICA FRIENDLY, there is no better locale as well.. girls hanging out in the front and 100ft away.. $50/night everything included as well, AC/Comp in lobby and NEW jacuzzi.
Club Residencial is probably one of the best guest friendly hotels in Sosua, but it comes with a hefty price tag. Room rates are $55 + 16% tax + $14 for A/C + $10 for superior apartment per day.
Club R is a very, very long walk to the beach and a long walk to the clubs. So add another $5 a day motoconcho cost.
New Garden is no where near as nice as Club R but a lot more convenient. Casa Valeria is another option.
I met the manager (german lady) who handed me a piece of paper with the rules for single guests. This was only this past july. Have the rules changed since then ?
Id say new garden is way more guest friendly. There are hookers all over that hotel.
Escort King
12-14-07, 19:12
A long time ago I went for a drive with a local guy on the highway from PP to Sosua. There were these "Car Wash" places where you get your car washed while you drink a beer with a pretty girl . Of course you need to know where you are going and speak some Spanish. I wonder if these places still exist.The Car Wash is a big thing in the DR they are all over the country.
Thanks for the responses. I am leaning towards Rocky's from Jan 10-17 then maybe BB's from the 17-21. Any other ISG members in Sosua then? Send me a PM or post here. If possible I invite any member to meet me for a drink.
Chicken Fryer
12-14-07, 22:48
Hey Guys,
A newbie here.- A newbie to the DR, but not to the activity. I have made several visits to Total Satisfaction in Margarita Island, Venezuela.
Greatly appreciate all of the writings on the board which have helped prepare me for my debut visit to BB in 3 weeks. I hope to have a great time, and I hope to become a contributor to the board.
Two quick questions.-
1. Has anyone visited both Total Satisfaction and BB's, and can offer any comparisons of the two resorts?
2. Is it possible to exchange Travelers checks at BB's or Jenny's?I have been to MWV in Margarita and have been to DR.
You are a lot better of spending the extra money and to go to VE.
Compared to Venezuela DR sucks!
Caribic_Monger
12-15-07, 03:08
hi folks,
i am just back from sosua and had a great time at "villas brigitte".
it’s not like a hotel – much more private.
here is the link : http://www.sosuarentals.com/
only down part - its located a little bit out of sosua, but the beach is right in front.
girl friendly - no id check.
top security, aircondition in bedroom, tv + 100 channals , high speed internet access
pre-paid cell phone, bbq , swimming pool etc.
night 70us$ taxes included.
LuvBlkWomen
12-15-07, 12:07
1st off anyone know if Sosua was affected by storm earlier this week.
2nd I want to combine Scuba & mongering. I need a recommendation for a girl friendly hotel that is close to Dolphin Dive Center which is supposed to be right on Sosua beach.
I'm looking for hotel with A/C, safe, clean, proximity to dive center, Internet access (preferred) and resonably priced.
So far based on posts, candidates are New Garden, although I've read you want upper rooms, not 1st floor rooms, Europa, Voramar (although a little further out)
Any alternatives? Basically I would like to be within walking distance of my diving, especially if I have to drag equipment every day and mongering action.
Hoping to go 12-30 tru 01-11, so need to make a decision quick. 1st time to DR. Any wing man in Sosua those weeks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there
As I just heard from the police, the restaurants, bars and discos didn't have to close during 23. Of December till 7. January. So it means during this time they can have open as long as they like. Like it was before some time ago. So it means we didn't have to go to the Disco by the casino, which is not really Gringo friendly. And its a test as well, so if they see that during this time, they didn't have so much problems, with fighting and so, may they discos can have open longer afterwards. Lets see and hope.
So tomorrow I'm on my trip from Switzerland over New York to Santo Domingo and around the 20. I will be in Sosua.
I'm staying at Hotel Orchidee, which is next to Rockys. So if everybody wanna meet a Swiss Monger, tell me. I beeing to Sosua several times.
Sorry about my bad english.
Don Ben
Canadian Cowboy
12-16-07, 22:39
Ok down to it then. I'm comeing to sousa Dec 4th. How is it since the storm. Also where would one stay condo wise chica friendly. And I'm looking for club residential style with newgarden openess. Tell me if possible. Bridgetts villa is how far from Sousa.
CC
SavePros321
12-17-07, 16:50
And just what kind of culture did you experience in the mongering town of Sosua? How was the art exhibit that was on display from July 2007 - Jan 2008? Did you get down to the new Shakespeare Theatre and see the Dominican rendition of the Tempest? At least you got the local jargon from this year down pat right? (Come to think of it do you even speak Spanish? Does she speak English?--What a connection)
579268
Like I have said one million times, you have to look at it like it´s a carnival. When you arrive you pay your money to enter, you ride all the rides, you eat the popcorn and cotton candy, then you take your happy ass home until next time. You can not take the rides home with you as some people try to do. You have to leave them there for the next group of people who want to visit the carnival. I would not think of sending Six Flags money every month after I have left, expecting them to section off the ´Scream Machine´ and let no one else ride until I return.
Damn, I had to come out of lurking mode for this one. Definitely got me thinking on how to properly monger and to respect the monger code of conduct. Too Funny!! Very well said brother Enternational. PREACH!
(Warning – this is a harrowing travel story in my route to a monger destination) (Chica stories will follow, promise)
I’m scheduled for 7 days in Puerto Plata / Sosua 12/16 – 12/23 and I’m very excited. This will be my first visit to the DR. I have been devouring the information on these boards the last 2 weeks. Today I wake up at 3:10am so I can depart by 3:30am (already packed) for a 2. 5 hours drive to make it to the Newark, NJ airport by 6am (flight is 8am). I leave my house at 3:40am (10 minutes late) and believe I’m still in good shape. I’m cruising along very good on 295-North in New Jersey when all the sudden it turns into I95-South to Philadelphia without any clear explanation. I U-turn for the exit and circle back to see what I missed and I verify my choices are I can take either 295-South or I-95 South. WTF. Remind me to thank NJDOT for this tar and concrete blackhole which is 295 North. After a few U-turns and speaking with a gasoline attendant, I finally realize I must backtrack down 295-South to get onto the New Jersey turnpike. I find NJTP and I’m back on track for a 6:40am arrival to offsite-parking. Ok. Let’s hope there are no big lines and no problems. Let’s be positive. Every 10 minutes I cycle through worrying and then comforting myself. Next issue is that it has been snowing in north NJ and there is now 2-3 inches of slush on the roads. As I go from exit 8 to exit 13, traffic slows down from 65mph to 40mph. Yikes! Well. Still moving. Let’s be positive. Ok, make it to Exit 13 and I most bone-headedly take Exit 13 and not Exit 13a as it says on my directions. Doh!
Toll-booth-man does not allow me to U-turn here to get to 13A and he gives me some semi-clear directions about navigating through Elizabeth, NJ to the airport. Fortunately there are clear signs with Newark Airport in view in this part of town and I navigate my way towards the airport. Now, I have no idea of how to find my Park2Fly location. Ah hah, I see ABC parking and figure that will do. I pull in there at 7am and quickly catch a shuttle over to the airport. The roads are pretty bad, now 4-5 inches of slush in some areas. At NJ airport, I hop out of shuttle and hurry to Continental’s international counter. Thankfully the line there moved very quickly and I get to an agent. Then to find that they can’t find my reservation. WTF. I check my reservation and I’m flying American, not Continental, which is in terminal A, not terminal C that I am in now. OK, my bad this time. It is 7:15am. Catching my 8am flight is looking dismal. I bust a move on over to Terminal A and there is a huge line at American. However, I scope out hardly any line at the self-checkin kiosks. I walk over and am directed right up front to an open kiosk. I swipe my passport through and it rejects me. Attendant tells me I did not meet the 40-minute pre-checkin requirement. I stare down at my watch and it is 7:22am. Double Frak, 38 minutes, just 2 minutes short. Well, someone’s got a heart. The female reservation agent must sense the holiday season and decides to do an override and let’s me on this flight after a short lecture arriving early for international flights. Ok, 7:25am and I’m head to gate 33A. Ooops. Forgot about the TSA screening before the gates. Two lines to choose from and I pick the slowest one. The line is going ubber-slow, handicapped people are being moved to the front of the line and at 7:42am I tell one of the TSA guys that I need help. He bumps me to the front of the line and by 7:46am I am through TSA screening.
I go off dashing for gate 33A like OJ Simpson (remember those Hertz commercials? ) thinking they may have already closed the doors at the gate. Luckily, they are only mid-way through seating the flight and I get in line with a few minutes to spare. I can’t believe I’m gonna make this flight. Have a slight urge to go to the men’s room but there is no way I’m stepping out of line. I can go once I’m seated on the plane. Ahhh. Made it. At last. But wait, this is just my flight to San Juan, Puerto Rico. Due to some delays at Newark and the plane requiring de-icing of the wings prior to take off, the flight leaves 45 minutes late. My layover time in San Juan between connecting flights is 45 minutes. Uh oh. My flight lands in PR at 1:25, I deplane at 1:35pm and my connecting flight leaves at 1:40pm. Uggh. Upon landing they tell us that an agent will be waiting outside the flight with connecting information. When I get off the plane to meet the agent, she already has a new boarding pass for me, the same flight, THE NEXT DAY. She says that I can go to gate 1B if I want to see if I can still make my original flight. I take off down the corridor with backpack and laptop in hand. Gate 1B is not that close but I manage to make it there right about 1:40pm. Display at 1B gate says flight is on time. I ask the agent about the flight and she says there is a maintenance delay and I will be able to get on. Yeah, shewww. I continue to walk around a little to cool down from my 2-minute sprint. About 2:15pm they post a new time of 3:25 for the flight to Puerto Plata (POP). Cool, got some time to eat so I go get a bite of pizza and a coke and do some reading. Then 2:45pm comes and they annouce flight has been cancelled. I ask gate agent and they tell me I will be rerouted through Santo Domingo, possibly Santiago.
After sitting around the San Juan airport until 4pm, I get called to the desk and get a ticket on 5pm flight to Santiago. Will my bags make it? "Your bags are going to go to Puerto Plata". Great! At 4:40pm rolls around we board the flight and they (they being American Eagle) tell us that our bags will go to Santiago, just not on the same flight. Ok, I have an uneventful, mostly on-time flight to Santiago, DR with no bag. I get through immigration and get to baggage clain at 7pm. AA baggage reps tell us another flight will arrive at 7:45pm will our baggage. 8:00pm and no plane. Agent tells us the plane was in route, but it turned around and went back to San Juan for an unknown reason (perhaps it never actually left San Juan). She advices us to file a claim for our luggage and call tomorrow (Monday) morning to request it to be delivered after it arrives in Santiago. I file my claim and then seek transportation to Sosua. After some minor confusion and my thinking AA is going to stiff us for transportation to Sosua, we find a representative who gives us a taxi voucher for Sosua.
I depart with a fellow travelling commisserator at 8:30pm by taxi to Sosua. His name is D and he have a place in Sosua. Quickly in the cab ride I discover a new sport. It is called "never-ending chicken". As we are driving down poorly lit, pot-hole ridden roads to Sosua, we find that there are all kinds of people, motoconchos, cars double-parking in middle of 2-lane road, dogs, cats, and mules all out for an evening stroll. The game is pretend like you are driving trying to kill them and see who gives in first. I was upfront in the van with the driver and even though I was tired and trying to catch some Zs, I couldn’t help but to open my eyes and watch this spectacle. About an hour into it I began to get a little comfortable with it. However, no doubt the traffic fatalaties of cars vs. Monoconchos and pedrestrians much be pretty high on a per person basis. At 10pm, D and I arrive safely in Sosua. Now to get some dinner and find a hotel.
The street scene in Sosua goes on and completes at 5am in Sosua. That will be my next story.
Kyle
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Caribic_Monger
12-17-07, 17:31
Ok down to it then. I'm comeing to sousa Dec 4th. How is it since the storm. Also where would one stay condo wise chica friendly. And I'm looking for club residential style with newgarden openess. Tell me if possible. Bridgetts villa is how far from Sousa.
CCThe villas and apartments are 2 miles away from the action, I rent everytime a car - they don't let moto chonchos in. Anyway, for me it's very importent to stay in a secured place - I don't like when some chicas bang at night at my door.You don't hear the annoying traffic noise, only the chrushing sound of the ocean.
One time I went with my chica at night to the private beach, layed back and received a nice BJ while watching the stars.
Canadian Cowboy
12-18-07, 00:36
How much would a rental car b for 2 weeks?
Ok down to it then. I'm comeing to sousa Dec 4th. How is it since the storm. Also where would one stay condo wise chica friendly. And I'm looking for club residential style with newgarden openess. Tell me if possible. Bridgetts villa is how far from Sousa.
CCJust got back from Bridgette Villas, it is a wonderful place. It is also to be respected. It also serves as a buisiness and residence. New Garden is the Black Beards of Sosua, when I'm on a budget thats my spot. Residential is a step up from New Garden without the traffic. If you want 2 or three girls a day B. V. Is not the spot stay in Sosua.
Thanks for the responses. I am leaning towards Rocky's from Jan 10-17 then maybe BB's from the 17-21. Any other ISG members in Sosua then? Send me a PM or post here. If possible I invite any member to meet me for a drink.
I am booked. Jan 10-17 at Rocky's in Sosua. Then the decision is whether to stay in Sosua 17-21 or go to Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata for 4 days or something else.
(Warning – this is a harrowing travel story in my route to a monger destination) (Chica stories will follow, promise)
I’m scheduled for 7 days in Puerto Plata / Sosua 12/16 – 12/23 and I’m very excited. This will be my first visit to the DR. I have been devouring the information on these boards the last 2 weeks. Today I wake up at 3:10am so I can depart by 3:30am (already packed) for a 2. 5 hours drive to make it to the Newark, NJ airport by 6am (flight is 8am). I leave my house at 3:40am (10 minutes late) and believe I’m still in good shape. I’m cruising along very good on 295-North in New Jersey when all the sudden it turns into I95-South to Philadelphia without any clear explanation. I U-turn for the exit and circle back to see what I missed and I verify my choices are I can take either 295-South or I-95 South. WTF. Remind me to thank NJDOT for this tar and concrete blackhole which is 295 North. After a few U-turns and speaking with a gasoline attendant, I finally realize I must backtrack down 295-South to get onto the New Jersey turnpike. I find NJTP and I’m back on track for a 6:40am arrival to offsite-parking. Ok. Let’s hope there are no big lines and no problems. Let’s be positive. Every 10 minutes I cycle through worrying and then comforting myself. Next issue is that it has been snowing in north NJ and there is now 2-3 inches of slush on the roads. As I go from exit 8 to exit 13, traffic slows down from 65mph to 40mph. Yikes! Well. Still moving. Let’s be positive. Ok, make it to Exit 13 and I most bone-headedly take Exit 13 and not Exit 13a as it says on my directions. Doh!
Toll-booth-man does not allow me to U-turn here to get to 13A and he gives me some semi-clear directions about navigating through Elizabeth, NJ to the airport. Fortunately there are clear signs with Newark Airport in view in this part of town and I navigate my way towards the airport. Now, I have no idea of how to find my Park2Fly location. Ah hah, I see ABC parking and figure that will do. I pull in there at 7am and quickly catch a shuttle over to the airport. The roads are pretty bad, now 4-5 inches of slush in some areas. At NJ airport, I hop out of shuttle and hurry to Continental’s international counter. Thankfully the line there moved very quickly and I get to an agent. Then to find that they can’t find my reservation. WTF. I check my reservation and I’m flying American, not Continental, which is in terminal A, not terminal C that I am in now. OK, my bad this time. It is 7:15am. Catching my 8am flight is looking dismal. I bust a move on over to Terminal A and there is a huge line at American. However, I scope out hardly any line at the self-checkin kiosks. I walk over and am directed right up front to an open kiosk. I swipe my passport through and it rejects me. Attendant tells me I did not meet the 40-minute pre-checkin requirement. I stare down at my watch and it is 7:22am. Double Frak, 38 minutes, just 2 minutes short. Well, someone’s got a heart. The female reservation agent must sense the holiday season and decides to do an override and let’s me on this flight after a short lecture arriving early for international flights. Ok, 7:25am and I’m head to gate 33A. Ooops. Forgot about the TSA screening before the gates. Two lines to choose from and I pick the slowest one. The line is going ubber-slow, handicapped people are being moved to the front of the line and at 7:42am I tell one of the TSA guys that I need help. He bumps me to the front of the line and by 7:46am I am through TSA screening.
I go off dashing for gate 33A like OJ Simpson (remember those Hertz commercials? ) thinking they may have already closed the doors at the gate. Luckily, they are only mid-way through seating the flight and I get in line with a few minutes to spare. I can’t believe I’m gonna make this flight. Have a slight urge to go to the men’s room but there is no way I’m stepping out of line. I can go once I’m seated on the plane. Ahhh. Made it. At last. But wait, this is just my flight to San Juan, Puerto Rico. Due to some delays at Newark and the plane requiring de-icing of the wings prior to take off, the flight leaves 45 minutes late. My layover time in San Juan between connecting flights is 45 minutes. Uh oh. My flight lands in PR at 1:25, I deplane at 1:35pm and my connecting flight leaves at 1:40pm. Uggh. Upon landing they tell us that an agent will be waiting outside the flight with connecting information. When I get off the plane to meet the agent, she already has a new boarding pass for me, the same flight, THE NEXT DAY. She says that I can go to gate 1B if I want to see if I can still make my original flight. I take off down the corridor with backpack and laptop in hand. Gate 1B is not that close but I manage to make it there right about 1:40pm. Display at 1B gate says flight is on time. I ask the agent about the flight and she says there is a maintenance delay and I will be able to get on. Yeah, shewww. I continue to walk around a little to cool down from my 2-minute sprint. About 2:15pm they post a new time of 3:25 for the flight to Puerto Plata (POP). Cool, got some time to eat so I go get a bite of pizza and a coke and do some reading. Then 2:45pm comes and they annouce flight has been cancelled. I ask gate agent and they tell me I will be rerouted through Santo Domingo, possibly Santiago.
After sitting around the San Juan airport until 4pm, I get called to the desk and get a ticket on 5pm flight to Santiago. Will my bags make it? "Your bags are going to go to Puerto Plata". Great! At 4:40pm rolls around we board the flight and they (they being American Eagle) tell us that our bags will go to Santiago, just not on the same flight. Ok, I have an uneventful, mostly on-time flight to Santiago, DR with no bag. I get through immigration and get to baggage clain at 7pm. AA baggage reps tell us another flight will arrive at 7:45pm will our baggage. 8:00pm and no plane. Agent tells us the plane was in route, but it turned around and went back to San Juan for an unknown reason (perhaps it never actually left San Juan). She advices us to file a claim for our luggage and call tomorrow (Monday) morning to request it to be delivered after it arrives in Santiago. I file my claim and then seek transportation to Sosua. After some minor confusion and my thinking AA is going to stiff us for transportation to Sosua, we find a representative who gives us a taxi voucher for Sosua.
I depart with a fellow travelling commisserator at 8:30pm by taxi to Sosua. His name is D and he have a place in Sosua. Quickly in the cab ride I discover a new sport. It is called "never-ending chicken". As we are driving down poorly lit, pot-hole ridden roads to Sosua, we find that there are all kinds of people, motoconchos, cars double-parking in middle of 2-lane road, dogs, cats, and mules all out for an evening stroll. The game is pretend like you are driving trying to kill them and see who gives in first. I was upfront in the van with the driver and even though I was tired and trying to catch some Zs, I couldn’t help but to open my eyes and watch this spectacle. About an hour into it I began to get a little comfortable with it. However, no doubt the traffic fatalaties of cars vs. Monoconchos and pedrestrians much be pretty high on a per person basis. At 10pm, D and I arrive safely in Sosua. Now to get some dinner and find a hotel.
The street scene in Sosua goes on and completes at 5am in Sosua. That will be my next story.
Kyle
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Just wait for the return trip. You will arrive home very, very late at night.
Now let this be a lesson to you. Book a direct flight in future. Do not go through Puerto Rico.
The driving is a little scary at first, but you have to remember that these folks know that road like the back of their hand, and you don't. Of course, they do have quite a few road deaths there, especially pedestrians and motorcylists.
Have a great time, and don't fuck too hard.
At 10: 30pm I’m walking down Pedro Calisante (the main drag) with D and find a spot for dinner. We walk by Classico’s and the ladies are out and about. Whoa. It’s Sunday night and they are out in full force. At first pass, I’m quite impressed with the quantity and quality of the talent I scout. After a quick dinner and some alluring eyes from the bartender/waitress, I head over to New Garden and book a room for the night. Decent room, $55, includes tax, very good location. Now back to the streets. I walk up and down Pedro Calisante and begin "the hunt". After reading much about the "Tiger and the Gazelle", I’m very focused on finding a gazelle for a few hours or TLN.
Spoon fed mongering or a la carte? I find for myself that I really enjoy the hunt. I’m very particular about my chicas and typically only go for the top 5-10% of the chicas in any one location. [Note: In 2 nights I’ve been with an 8. 5 and a 9] Most of my hunt tonight (Sunday night) is between Classico’s and Latinos and a few blocks beyond each. As for the chicas, there are quite a few, many ranging in age from 18-25. About half look reasonably experience, 25% look very experienced and the other 25% seem relatively "fresh". I enjoyed sitting down at a perch or standing still and admiring the flow of chicas up and down the street. I had a certain type of anticipation that maybe I’m just gonna find this really special chica tonight. Well, I spotted one, then another one. However, both chicas met up with gringos before I could say "hola". Next I spot a very attractive, 9 of scale 1-10, go into nite club at Classico’s. She’s got beautifully thin legs, 5’8", thin, natural C cup and beautiful face. Not wanting to break my USD for pesos just yet, I decide not to go into the club and stand at the bottom of the steps to wait for her to exit or another muy especial chica to walk by. About 1:15am, miss chica #1, M, exits the club and walks my way. I say hola and engage her and her friend in conversation. She has a very nice smile, straight, white teeth, is quiet, well-mannered and I’m thinking I’ve found me a gazelle.
"Well, let me do some interviewing before I invite her back to the room. " We talk and get drinks for 20 minutes and she is smiley and polite, though I’m leading most all of the conversation. She’s 20 y. O. She continues to smile at me and "seem interested" so I invite her back to my room. Her friend suggests "Happy Hour" but I say I only want 1 chica.
Back to New Garden and warning bells should go off when she get’s to the gated fence door and quickly reaches in to unlatch the door. Me things "La chica tenia mucha experiencia with New Garden. " Ok, into the room I tell her I like things to move slowly. We never mention price. I don’t bring it up following someone’s advice and she doesn’t bring it up. Ok. Her body is incredible and I could lay for hours and watch her and just caress her. As we lay there and hang out, she is not really into it. She has a quiet, "let’s just get it over with attitude. Or I’m bored" We lay and caress one another for awhile. I try DFK and she’s not very interested. Ah. Should have gotten my first french kiss at the bar to feel her out. After 90 minutes of relaxing and caressing she asks if we can have sex so she can finish and go. She is "not available" for TLN. At this point I shouldn’t want it, however when it comes to beautiful women I like to savor my meal. So we "get it on" for 10-15 minutes and her service is quite lackluster. No BBBJ (minor licking sin condom), no DFK, basic uninterested sex. Ok, 2 hours up and she wants to leave.
Pricing. I’m thinking short time is 500-1000 pesos after much reading on this board. I still only have USD and decide $20 US is 660 pesos and should be good. She looks at the 20 and gives me this "you must be kidding" look. I tell her I have many friends who visit Sosua and I’m well aware of the going rates. The story continues and is quite dramatic, however while I’m unwilling to get in the details while I remain in the country. Let’s just say a disagreement ensued.
Hi,
I am trying to find a place to stay in Sosua, but I think I'm to late as everywhere seems to be booked. Has anyone got any info if there's a place to stay. Rocky's and new garden were my first choice but they are booked. Any time for a week from the 25 Dec till the 6 Jan.
Hi,
I am trying to find a place to stay in Sosua, but I think I'm to late as everywhere seems to be booked. Has anyone got any info if there's a place to stay. Rocky's and new garden were my first choice but they are booked. Any time for a week from the 25 Dec till the 6 Jan.Try Casa Cayena. It's about a block from the New Garden.
At 10: 30pm I’m walking down Pedro Calisante (the main drag) with D and find a spot for dinner. We walk by Classico’s and the ladies are out and about. Whoa. It’s Sunday night and they are out in full force. At first pass, I’m quite impressed with the quantity and quality of the talent I scout. After a quick dinner and some alluring eyes from the bartender/waitress, I head over to New Garden and book a room for the night. Decent room, $55, includes tax, very good location. Now back to the streets. I walk up and down Pedro Calisante and begin "the hunt". After reading much about the "Tiger and the Gazelle", I’m very focused on finding a gazelle for a few hours or TLN.
Spoon fed mongering or a la carte? I find for myself that I really enjoy the hunt. I’m very particular about my chicas and typically only go for the top 5-10% of the chicas in any one location. [Note: In 2 nights I’ve been with an 8. 5 and a 9] Most of my hunt tonight (Sunday night) is between Classico’s and Latinos and a few blocks beyond each. As for the chicas, there are quite a few, many ranging in age from 18-25. About half look reasonably experience, 25% look very experienced and the other 25% seem relatively "fresh". I enjoyed sitting down at a perch or standing still and admiring the flow of chicas up and down the street. I had a certain type of anticipation that maybe I’m just gonna find this really special chica tonight. Well, I spotted one, then another one. However, both chicas met up with gringos before I could say "hola". Next I spot a very attractive, 9 of scale 1-10, go into nite club at Classico’s. She’s got beautifully thin legs, 5’8", thin, natural C cup and beautiful face. Not wanting to break my USD for pesos just yet, I decide not to go into the club and stand at the bottom of the steps to wait for her to exit or another muy especial chica to walk by. About 1:15am, miss chica #1, M, exits the club and walks my way. I say hola and engage her and her friend in conversation. She has a very nice smile, straight, white teeth, is quiet, well-mannered and I’m thinking I’ve found me a gazelle.
"Well, let me do some interviewing before I invite her back to the room. " We talk and get drinks for 20 minutes and she is smiley and polite, though I’m leading most all of the conversation. She’s 20 y. O. She continues to smile at me and "seem interested" so I invite her back to my room. Her friend suggests "Happy Hour" but I say I only want 1 chica.
Back to New Garden and warning bells should go off when she get’s to the gated fence door and quickly reaches in to unlatch the door. Me things "La chica tenia mucha experiencia with New Garden. " Ok, into the room I tell her I like things to move slowly. We never mention price. I don’t bring it up following someone’s advice and she doesn’t bring it up. Ok. Her body is incredible and I could lay for hours and watch her and just caress her. As we lay there and hang out, she is not really into it. She has a quiet, "let’s just get it over with attitude. Or I’m bored" We lay and caress one another for awhile. I try DFK and she’s not very interested. Ah. Should have gotten my first french kiss at the bar to feel her out. After 90 minutes of relaxing and caressing she asks if we can have sex so she can finish and go. She is "not available" for TLN. At this point I shouldn’t want it, however when it comes to beautiful women I like to savor my meal. So we "get it on" for 10-15 minutes and her service is quite lackluster. No BBBJ (minor licking sin condom), no DFK, basic uninterested sex. Ok, 2 hours up and she wants to leave.
Pricing. I’m thinking short time is 500-1000 pesos after much reading on this board. I still only have USD and decide $20 US is 660 pesos and should be good. She looks at the 20 and gives me this "you must be kidding" look. I tell her I have many friends who visit Sosua and I’m well aware of the going rates. The story continues and is quite dramatic, however while I’m unwilling to get in the details while I remain in the country. Let’s just say a disagreement ensued.
I think they would want a bit more than $20 after going from the nightclub with you on a Sunday night and spending 90 minutes warming up. About 1200 pesos would be fair if she was a good looker, though she would surely ask for more. 500 pesos might get you a daytime blow job from one of the uglier sisters. You should always negotiate a price up front even if she says "pay me whatever you like".
Even if you did not have very good rapport with her $20 would be seen as insulting. What can you buy with $20?
Now enjoy the rest of your trip.
Pricing. I’m thinking short time is 500-1000 pesos after much reading on this board. I still only have USD and decide $20 US is 660 pesos and should be good. She looks at the 20 and gives me this "you must be kidding" look. I tell her I have many friends who visit Sosua and I’m well aware of the going rates. The story continues and is quite dramatic, however while I’m unwilling to get in the details while I remain in the country. Let’s just say a disagreement ensued.
Keep in mind that 500-1000 pesos is for daytime action and that decent looking girls probably even want more than that.
With 20 bucks (660 pesos) you were definately asking for troubles.
At night i guess you should give her at least 1000 pesos and if her performance was good maybe a little tip like 200 pesos
Crossfire1
12-19-07, 14:53
Not wanting to break my USD for pesos just yet, I decide not to go into the club and stand at the bottom of the steps to wait for her to exit or another muy especial chica to walk by.
I can tell that you did your homework before taking this trip but I think you still made a few classic mistakes. What is with the saving US Dollars? I don't understand? What were you buying your drinks with, dollars? Where you just out of pesos? I never deal in dollars. Never even negotiate with chicas in dollars.
I'm always the one to say it but these boards always focus on how to be a cheap ass more than how to have a good time at a fair price. If pussy cost $1 USD, the guys on this board would spend hours trying to figure out how to get it for $.25 USD. Let's face it we are not going to hit it off with every chica we meet. There is a big difference between a chica who breaks an agreement and a chica that you don't have chemistry with. The chica who breaks an agreement promises you bbbj and TLN but in the room says you have 2 hours and you need a condom. It seems to me that you and your chica just didn't hit it off. That's no reason to pay $20 to a chica in the top 5-10%.
Aside from that I would have to ask myself, is it worth the extra 300-900 pesos to get the crazy chica out of my room? I'm not going on vacation to argue with a chica over 300 pesos? If I fight over 300 pesos I would begin to feel as desperate for money as they do. Some people say don't negotiate up front others says you should always negotiate before going to the room. I can say that I have done both things. But I know how to screen a chica the right way before I take her back to the room. I also know that as long as she keep her part of the agreement I will pay her fairly. My suggestion to others--Always negotiate up front until you gain more expierence with chicas. If you are doing the el chepo vacation and you want the top 5% (nothing wrong with that) always negotiate up front. I don't do el chepo vacations. I know I can afford whatever I want at fair market prices, without over paying.
No matter how you look at it a vacation in the DR is already a good deal. Save your money and do your vacation right.
I'm always the one to say it but these boards always focus on how to be a cheap ass more than how to have a good time at a fair price. If pussy cost $1 USD, the guys on this board would spend hours trying to figure out how to get it for $.25 USD. Let's face it we are not going to hit it off with every chica we meet. There is a big difference between a chica who breaks an agreement and a chica that you don't have chemistry with. The chica who breaks an agreement promises you bbbj and TLN but in the room says you have 2 hours and you need a condom. It seems to me that you and your chica just didn't hit it off, but that's no reason to want to pay $20 for a chica in the top 5%.
Aside from that I would have to ask myself is it worth the extra 300-900 pesos to get the crazy chica out of my room? I'm not going on vacation to argue with a chica over 300 pesos? If I fight over 300 pesos I would begin to feel as desperate for money as they do. Some people say don't negotiate up front others says you should always negotiate before going to the room. I can say that I have done both things. But I know how to screen a chica the right way before I take her back to the room. I also know that as long as she keep her part of the agreement I will pay her fairly. My suggestion to others--Always negotiate up front until you gain more expierence with chicas. If you are doing the el chepo vacation and you want the top 5% (nothing wrong with that) Always negotiate up front. I don't do el chepo vacations. I know I can afford whatever I want at fair market prices, without over paying.
No matter how you look at it a vacation in the DR is already a good deal. Save your money and do your vacation right.Great post! My sentiments exactly!
I can tell that you did your homework before taking this trip but I think you still made a few classic mistakes. What is with the saving US Dollars? I don't understand? What were you buying your drinks with, dollars? Where you just out of pesos? I never deal in dollars. Never even negotiate with chicas in dollars.
I'm always the one to say it but these boards always focus on how to be a cheap ass more than how to have a good time at a fair price. If pussy cost $1 USD, the guys on this board would spend hours trying to figure out how to get it for $.25 USD. Let's face it we are not going to hit it off with every chica we meet. There is a big difference between a chica who breaks an agreement and a chica that you don't have chemistry with. The chica who breaks an agreement promises you bbbj and TLN but in the room says you have 2 hours and you need a condom. It seems to me that you and your chica just didn't hit it off, but that's no reason to want to pay $20 for a chica in the top 5%.
Aside from that I would have to ask myself is it worth the extra 300-900 pesos to get the crazy chica out of my room? I'm not going on vacation to argue with a chica over 300 pesos? If I fight over 300 pesos I would begin to feel as desperate for money as they do. Some people say don't negotiate up front others says you should always negotiate before going to the room. I can say that I have done both things. But I know how to screen a chica the right way before I take her back to the room. I also know that as long as she keep her part of the agreement I will pay her fairly. My suggestion to others--Always negotiate up front until you gain more expierence with chicas. If you are doing the el chepo vacation and you want the top 5% (nothing wrong with that) Always negotiate up front. I don't do el chepo vacations. I know I can afford whatever I want at fair market prices, without over paying.
No matter how you look at it a vacation in the DR is already a good deal. Save your money and do your vacation right.
Agreed. You CAN get laid for $500 pesos, but it is a bit like that Groucho Marx thing about not wanting to be a member of any club that would accept someone like him as a member.
A few weeks back I was offered masaje completo for quiniento pesos by a girl outside the Europa, but the catch was that she looked like she needed a good scrubbing before I would lay hand on her. Any girl who is offering herself for 500 pesos is probably not such that you would want your member to be admitted to her inner sanctum.
Of course some girls are free, and they are the most expensive ones, because if you take the bait of free sex it is a bit like accepting free downloads from e-music. When you want to cancel your trial account, the cancellation button seems to have disappeared and your credit card is charged monthly until you die or go into bankrupcy.
If you get a girl out of the disco at night she is probably going to shoot for $2000 pesos or even more. If I hooked a girl who would not settle for 2000 pesos, then I would definitely throw her back in the pool and set bait for another. And she would have to be pretty damn hot for $2000. I would probably make an opening bid of 1000, up it to 1200 when she laughs at that, then maybe settle for 1500.
The exact price you may pay depends on several variables that may include:
1. How much the girl likes you, although this may be overrated.
2. Your ability to speak Spanish and amuse the girl.
3. How attractive she is, and the likelihood of her being able to get someone else.
4. Her financial needs on the day in question. If she desperately needs 2000 pesos to pay rent and it is late at night, she will fight hard to get what she needs. On the other hand, if she had someone else earlier, you may be the gravy and she may be more flexible.
5. What others are paying. Remember that the dollar is badly on the slide vs the euro, so European tourists may be willing to offer more.
6. Time of day. You can probably get it a bit cheaper in the day time as she still has a hope of scoring again later on.
7. Whether you already know her, or her friends. Maybe you have flirted with her for days. Maybe a friend will give you a good reference. If you are a premature ejaculator you may get a discount as oppose to someone who wants to fuck the shit out of a chica for hours.
8. Whether she is Haitian. Haitianas come at 25-50% discount and a lot less attitude.
Bottom line is that these girls are working in the street to earn money to support themselves and their families. Although they may love the sex with you, that is not the main motivation.
All these pitfalls and fine points partly explain why DR newbies may enjoy themselves more at Blackbeard's until they get the feel of the culture a bit. At BB the menu is prix fixe, so you don't have to get into any head games about money and can just focus on small head.
Great points Cossfire1. Twenty American dollars would insult me as a customer especially if she is as he said near the top on looks. Nothing wrong with negotiation, but please respect the chicas, especially those that are not wolves and pushy. She seemed like a very even keal pretty chica that was not stuck up. Probable not a pro as evidence by he was still alive to write the post. She may be stuck up now because of this. It goes both ways we as the clients can screw things up for those that follow by grossly overpaying or even quicker by insulting and taking advantage of your position. Negotiate, but be fair. Beleive me word will circulate in these small towns about we the clients amoungst the chicas, just like it circulates around the world about them the providers be it good or bad.
I can tell that you did your homework before taking this trip but I think you still made a few classic mistakes. What is with the saving US Dollars? I don't understand? What were you buying your drinks with, dollars? Where you just out of pesos? I never deal in dollars. Never even negotiate with chicas in dollars.
I'm always the one to say it but these boards always focus on how to be a cheap ass more than how to have a good time at a fair price. If pussy cost $1 USD, the guys on this board would spend hours trying to figure out how to get it for $.25 USD. Let's face it we are not going to hit it off with every chica we meet. There is a big difference between a chica who breaks an agreement and a chica that you don't have chemistry with. The chica who breaks an agreement promises you bbbj and TLN but in the room says you have 2 hours and you need a condom. It seems to me that you and your chica just didn't hit it off. That's no reason to pay $20 to a chica in the top 5-10%.
Aside from that I would have to ask myself, is it worth the extra 300-900 pesos to get the crazy chica out of my room? I'm not going on vacation to argue with a chica over 300 pesos? If I fight over 300 pesos I would begin to feel as desperate for money as they do. Some people say don't negotiate up front others says you should always negotiate before going to the room. I can say that I have done both things. But I know how to screen a chica the right way before I take her back to the room. I also know that as long as she keep her part of the agreement I will pay her fairly. My suggestion to others--Always negotiate up front until you gain more expierence with chicas. If you are doing the el chepo vacation and you want the top 5% (nothing wrong with that) always negotiate up front. I don't do el chepo vacations. I know I can afford whatever I want at fair market prices, without over paying.
No matter how you look at it a vacation in the DR is already a good deal. Save your money and do your vacation right.
Agreed. You CAN get laid for $500 pesos, but it is a bit like that Groucho Marx thing about not wanting to be a member of any club that would accept someone like him as a member.
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I just want to add something here that I meant to include in my last post.
A contract, whether verbal or written, implies an exchange of services between two parties in which both feel they are getting something they want out of it.
Sometimes you can go with a girl without discussing the price, for example if you have been with her before, or you have been with her friends, so she knows what you will pay, and you know what she will accept, but in general it is best to negotiate up front so that you don't get into some situation where there is a disagreement, possible violence, or she steals your cell phone to get even (as she sees it).
You are on vacation and you really don't want to be dealing with local cops, or emergency rooms, which will greatly increase your stress level and can only decrease your bank balance.
Crossfire,
I give you alot of credit and I agree with you totally on what you said and thank you for approaching this subject in the first place.
The line from your post that jumped off the screen to me was:
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I'm always the one to say it but these boards always focus on how to be a cheap ass more than how to have a good time at a fair price......
It is about time price and fairness was discussed reasonably and not just shot down because some on the board think no girl in the DR is worth more than 500 pesos.
Kyle F, I don't think anyone here is trying to crucify you here. Your post just brought up a subject that has soarly been needed to be talked about, namely pricing and what is fair, as well as not being such a cheapskate that you mess up your vacation. Your honesty on what you did will not only assist you in the future but also everyone who reads the boards.
Good posts and dialog gentlemen.
Could anyone please tell me the name of the cheap hotel where the rooms are 10 bucks?
Thank you
Could anyone please tell me the name of the cheap hotel where the rooms are 10 bucks?
Thank you
Right now is the high season in the D.R. so i don`t think that you will be able to find a hotel for 10 bucks.
The only one i could think about which is kinda like in your price range is the El Colibri hotel for 15 bucks per night, however this hotel is not girl friendly.
Another one is the El Coco hotel which is for 20 bucks per night, this hotel is girl friendly and between Classico and the casino in Sosua.
Right now is the high season in the D.R. so i don`t think that you will be able to find a hotel for 10 bucks.
The only one i could think about which is kinda like in your price range is the El Colibri hotel for 15 bucks per night, however this hotel is not girl friendly.
Another one is the El Coco hotel which is for 20 bucks per night, this hotel is girl friendly and between Classico and the casino in Sosua.
I just booked at Rocky's and they are $22/night for a week in January, they have WiFi throughout the hotel and I expect just a simple room at that price. Will report on the accomodations when I get back. I have seen some posts with prices in the $30-$70/night range too (some may were all-inclusive). What are the HIGH and LOW season price ranges for hotels in Sosua? Obviously the sky's the limit as far as how much some people can spend but this question is more for the average monger (looking for value but NOT at the expense of comfort, not cheap but not $100/hr brothel hookers either). Would $15/high and $10/low be the 'rock bottom' prices?
I just booked at Rocky's and they are $22/night for a week in January, they have WiFi throughout the hotel and I expect just a simple room at that price. Will report on the accomodations when I get back. I have seen some posts with prices in the $30-$70/night range too (some may were all-inclusive). What are the HIGH and LOW season price ranges for hotels in Sosua? Obviously the sky's the limit as far as how much some people can spend but this question is more for the average monger (looking for value but NOT at the expense of comfort, not cheap but not $100/hr brothel hookers either). Would $15/high and $10/low be the 'rock bottom' prices?
Probably, but what amenties do you want? For much of the year it is pretty unbearable in the DR without air conditioning, which immediately takes you above rock bottom prices.
The rooms at Rocky's are very basic--one step up from a prison cell--and I believe without a/c, though this may be OK in January.
Then you probably want a hot shower and a decent amount of towels, and probably at least a television. In most of the cheaper places the beds, pillows, sheets, towels etc. are pretty crummy. I hate paper-thin sheets that come off the mattress in the night.
Fridge and cooking facilities are another factor. I like to at least be able to make real coffee and breakfast, if nothing else,and to have drinking water and orange juice in the fridge, plus cold beer for the chicas (I don't drink). It is useful to have a table and chairs to eat at, preferably on a balcony or patio.
A pool is nice in the hot weather and provides a good way to cool off when you come in all hot and sweaty.
A microwave would be very handy, though hardly ever available.
A safe in the room is handy. So is an iron for clothes. And hangers.
Overall the Europa hotel probably offers the best all round value for money, though personally I prefer Perla de Sosua apartments, which is sold out for my next trip, so I have to find somewhere else.
Huge Hefner
12-21-07, 00:31
In the DR or anywhere in the World.
Your first night with the first girl, You must come to an understanding before you go back to the room.
You must come to an agreement about what you want and how much you are willing to pay.
To you it was a lousy fuck, so you give her $20.
To her you had about 2 hours+ of her presious time, when she could have stayed a Classico's and found a big spender who would have paid $3,000 pesos.
Anyway I think you are in big trouble. Possibly an argueing match and if you don't pay her tonight, You can expect to see her LATER! unless you settle with her.
Crossfire and Frannie know what I am talking about.
Canadian Cowboy
12-21-07, 03:42
Does anyone have a report on the room quality?
Anyone have photos of the hotel room interiors?
Thanks
CC
Huge Hefner
12-21-07, 07:02
Hey Canadian if you go to www.baysider.com there is a picture of a room.
Does anyone have a report on the room quality?
Anyone have photos of the hotel room interiors?
Thanks
CC
Their webpage contains several pictures of their rooms available.
The webpage is www.newgardenhotel.net click on photo gallary to check out the pictures.
Does anyone have a report on the room quality?
Anyone have photos of the hotel room interiors?
Thanks
CC
Dont worry you will not be disappointed. Everything works well and their guest policy is VERY user friendly.
I am being offered this monger friendly place to stay for $100/night. The place is marked on the map and called Las Terrazas and is beach front.
I don't know whether to trust the agent on the phone as businesses in LA lie all the time to get your business. Anyway, that is another story. She says its monger friendly, multiple girls If I want, but just dont disturb the people already staying there. It seems to upscale from what I can tell.
Since I dont know the layout of the city and where the center of our activity is I want to know the pit falls of me staying here.
Safe to walk home at night?
How many minutes to walk to the center of activity like the ho-discos?
I know the price is more than many here are willing to pay so if you throw that out the window, is it a good place to monger from?
Thanks,
EH
Canadian Cowboy
12-21-07, 18:10
Sorry guys first time on a mongering trip in the dominican usually do the AI and nite excursions. Wanted to try something different. Thats why. Its a 2 week stay so I want to make sure I can handle it.
Thanks
CC
Huge Hefner
12-21-07, 18:10
Candaian Cowboy,
Don't worry It's just fine at New Garden and give my regards to Julia the bartender.
Right now is the high season in the D.R. so i don`t think that you will be able to find a hotel for 10 bucks.
The only one i could think about which is kinda like in your price range is the El Colibri hotel for 15 bucks per night, however this hotel is not girl friendly.
Another one is the El Coco hotel which is for 20 bucks per night, this hotel is girl friendly and between Classico and the casino in Sosua.Thanks Berthold. I am acctually staying at elNeptuno but I needed the cheapo hotel for quickies. I read a while ago on this post that there's a one in central Sosua for 10 bucks.
Sexmachine1
12-22-07, 03:57
I will be in Sosua from Jan 4 to Jan 11. First time in DR but many times in Argentina, Costa rica and Cuba.
I will be staying at Casa Marina Beach All inclusive Resort, which I am told is within walking distance to the nightlife in Sosua. Can anybody confirm this? How far is it from Classico's or from the action on the beach.
SM
Thanks Berthold. I am acctually staying at elNeptuno but I needed the cheapo hotel for quickies. I read a while ago on this post that there's a one in central Sosua for 10 bucks.
The fuck motel is called calypsus and is indeed centrally located in Sosua. Most people or girls will know it. No ID required. St is 300 pesos toda la noche is 700 pesos. They even provide rubbers, but i suggest you bring you own ones, dominican rubbers suck big time.
I will be in Sosua from Jan 4 to Jan 11. First time in DR but many times in Argentina, Costa rica and Cuba.
I will be staying at Casa Marina Beach All inclusive Resort, which I am told is within walking distance to the nightlife in Sosua. Can anybody confirm this? How far is it from Classico's or from the action on the beach.
SM
Sosua is a small town almost everything is in walking distance. From your resort to classico`s or the beach it will take you round about 5 minutes depending on fast you walk.
Davidb3069
12-23-07, 04:20
$100 a night is a lot of money in Sosua. You might want to show up and look at it before taking it. If it's worth the money, it's your choice.
I rented a place like that my first trip and it turned out to be a dive. Sales agents lie. You can rent places for an entire month for $300-400.
Sosua is generally safe if you stay in populated areas. Taxis (motorcycles) have been known to rob people. Just play it smart. Watch for potholes at night. They sometimes pull up road covers and leave it exposed.
The main drag is a 10-15 minute walk from end to end (disco to beach). Generally, it's 5 mins to anywhere from near the beach.
All the activity during the day is at the beach. At night, after the beach closes, it moves to the bars.
David
I am being offered this monger friendly place to stay for $100/night. The place is marked on the map and called Las Terrazas and is beach front.
I don't know whether to trust the agent on the phone as businesses in LA lie all the time to get your business. Anyway, that is another story. She says its monger friendly, multiple girls If I want, but just dont disturb the people already staying there. It seems to upscale from what I can tell.
Since I dont know the layout of the city and where the center of our activity is I want to know the pit falls of me staying here.
Safe to walk home at night?
How many minutes to walk to the center of activity like the ho-discos?
I know the price is more than many here are willing to pay so if you throw that out the window, is it a good place to monger from?
Thanks,
EH
Davidb3069
12-23-07, 04:40
Pricing. I’m thinking short time is 500-1000 pesos after much reading on this board. I still only have USD and decide $20 US is 660 pesos and should be good. She looks at the 20 and gives me this "you must be kidding" look. I tell her I have many friends who visit Sosua and I’m well aware of the going rates. The story continues and is quite dramatic, however while I’m unwilling to get in the details while I remain in the country. Let’s just say a disagreement ensued.
As others said, 500-1000 pesos without advance agreement is asking for trouble. Negociating after the fact is not a good idea.
I would personally pay the girl another 500-1000 to get rid of her. I have been on the other end of a "disagreement" with a local and I ended up in jail there for 56 hours. I wouldn't recommend that course of action. Pay the $$ and get rid of her if it looks risky.
The girls have a lot of friends (other girls, moto taxis, and even police) in that town. It's a very small place. Nothing happens without others knowing.
You are there to have fun, not ruin your trip because you want to save a few bucks.
David
Jones Crusher
12-24-07, 02:49
Candaian Cowboy,
Don't worry It's just fine at New Garden and give my regards to Julia the bartender.Cowboy,
Depending on what you are looking for, the New Garden is just fine. I was in Sosua with a friend for the 1st time in November and we stayed at the Casa Marina AI. It was fine for our 1st time but is not girl friendly. Luckily, La Passions took care of that and on the last night i paid for another room at the Casa Marina for me and my girl.
However, I went down again (Dominican Girls are so fine) and upon the advice of this board i stayed at the New Garden. It is clean, girl friendly, cheap (hey, $50 is cheap in my book) and just about everyone there is doing the same thing you are and can help you out. It is extermely convenient to the beach, nite clubs, espresso, etc. A little noisy at nite but I can't think of where you can stay that you wouldn't hear the damn moto-conchos.
A few things regarding other, earlier posts. I could not agree more regarding the fact that the pictures of the girls on this site do not do them justice. The girls in Sosua, working at the espresso shops, stores, beach, etc have the most beautiful smile, skin, bodies, etc. Absolutely stunning, which is why i was back 4 weeks after my first trip and why i will be back in February.
As to being cheap, I am there for a good time not to see how many girls i can bang (ok, 5 in 4 days but who's counting). This time I brought 50 one dollar bills and tipped everyone because I can. I tipped the shoeshine boys though I didn't get a shine, the espresso girls, the taxi drivers, the girls in La Passion. Why? First, because i can. Second, because it makes me feel good. Third, because it makes them feel good. And four, because every single one of them remembers me and smiles when I walk in the door. They ask me how things are going, direct me where i am going, stop and talk with me. I brought lip gloss from Victoria's Secret and gave them to the girls. They were so fucking happy for a $3 lip gloss, it made me want to fucking cry. Some of you might not like it. Hey, Jones, you're spoiling them. Too bad. I see where these girls live and what they have to do for a living. For the time that i am with them, I am going to make them happy in order to make me happy. (No, i don't over pay for service).
Last bit of advice from a new guy, and i hate to share it but i will. The best times i've had down there is when I've first given THEM a massage, before they give me one. Hey, that's just how I roll. But, hell, you guys have been around longer than me, what do i know?
Mr Enternational
12-24-07, 09:22
Pricing. I’m thinking short time is 500-1000 pesos after much reading on this board. I still only have USD and decide $20 US is 660 pesos and should be good. She looks at the 20 and gives me this "you must be kidding" look. I tell her I have many friends who visit Sosua and I’m well aware of the going rates. The story continues and is quite dramatic, however while I’m unwilling to get in the details while I remain in the country. Let’s just say a disagreement ensued.
Dammit man. You can not negotiate according to hearsay. The right thing was to negotiate before leaving the bar. But since you didn't, your only hopes of salvaging it was to say, "This is not my first time here...," not "I have many friends who visit..." They could give a flying fuck about what your friends are used to paying or what someone else told you you should pay. It is what they want YOU to pay. If you have inside knowledge as such that the forum gives you, then when in Rome you need to appear as if it is first-hand knowledge from your own experience. You need game!
Cowboy,
Depending on what you are looking for, the New Garden is just fine. I was in Sosua with a friend for the 1st time in November and we stayed at the Casa Marina AI. It was fine for our 1st time but is not girl friendly. Luckily, La Passions took care of that and on the last night i paid for another room at the Casa Marina for me and my girl.
However, I went down again (Dominican Girls are so fine) and upon the advice of this board i stayed at the New Garden. It is clean, girl friendly, cheap (hey, $50 is cheap in my book) and just about everyone there is doing the same thing you are and can help you out. It is extermely convenient to the beach, nite clubs, espresso, etc. A little noisy at nite but I can't think of where you can stay that you wouldn't hear the damn moto-conchos.
A few things regarding other, earlier posts. I could not agree more regarding the fact that the pictures of the girls on this site do not do them justice. The girls in Sosua, working at the espresso shops, stores, beach, etc have the most beautiful smile, skin, bodies, etc. Absolutely stunning, which is why i was back 4 weeks after my first trip and why i will be back in February.
As to being cheap, I am there for a good time not to see how many girls i can bang (ok, 5 in 4 days but who's counting). This time I brought 50 one dollar bills and tipped everyone because I can. I tipped the shoeshine boys though I didn't get a shine, the espresso girls, the taxi drivers, the girls in La Passion. Why? First, because i can. Second, because it makes me feel good. Third, because it makes them feel good. And four, because every single one of them remembers me and smiles when I walk in the door. They ask me how things are going, direct me where i am going, stop and talk with me. I brought lip gloss from Victoria's Secret and gave them to the girls. They were so fucking happy for a $3 lip gloss, it made me want to fucking cry. Some of you might not like it. Hey, Jones, you're spoiling them. Too bad. I see where these girls live and what they have to do for a living. For the time that i am with them, I am going to make them happy in order to make me happy. (No, i don't over pay for service).
Last bit of advice from a new guy, and i hate to share it but i will. The best times i've had down there is when I've first given THEM a massage, before they give me one. Hey, that's just how I roll. But, hell, you guys have been around longer than me, what do i know?
No, Jones, you got it right.
Where else can you make someone's day for only $1-$3?
Compared to most Dominicans, we're all Donald Trumps.
When I come back to the States, I occasionally look around my home and realize that compared to most people in the DR, I live like a god.
No one should be foolish with their money, but a little respect and generosity is not out of place. If you can afford air fare and hotels, why try to squeeze someone who's a lot worse off than you are?
As far as going there to have a good time, you've already learned how watching someone's reaction to a small act of generosity can make your day too. We may be "mongers", but we don't have to lose our humanity.
(Oh, and Merry Christmas!)
Cowboy,
Depending on what you are looking for, the New Garden is just fine. I was in Sosua with a friend for the 1st time in November and we stayed at the Casa Marina AI. It was fine for our 1st time but is not girl friendly. Luckily, La Passions took care of that and on the last night i paid for another room at the Casa Marina for me and my girl.
However, I went down again (Dominican Girls are so fine) and upon the advice of this board i stayed at the New Garden. It is clean, girl friendly, cheap (hey, $50 is cheap in my book) and just about everyone there is doing the same thing you are and can help you out. It is extermely convenient to the beach, nite clubs, espresso, etc. A little noisy at nite but I can't think of where you can stay that you wouldn't hear the damn moto-conchos.
A few things regarding other, earlier posts. I could not agree more regarding the fact that the pictures of the girls on this site do not do them justice. The girls in Sosua, working at the espresso shops, stores, beach, etc have the most beautiful smile, skin, bodies, etc. Absolutely stunning, which is why i was back 4 weeks after my first trip and why i will be back in February.
As to being cheap, I am there for a good time not to see how many girls i can bang (ok, 5 in 4 days but who's counting). This time I brought 50 one dollar bills and tipped everyone because I can. I tipped the shoeshine boys though I didn't get a shine, the espresso girls, the taxi drivers, the girls in La Passion. Why? First, because i can. Second, because it makes me feel good. Third, because it makes them feel good. And four, because every single one of them remembers me and smiles when I walk in the door. They ask me how things are going, direct me where i am going, stop and talk with me. I brought lip gloss from Victoria's Secret and gave them to the girls. They were so fucking happy for a $3 lip gloss, it made me want to fucking cry. Some of you might not like it. Hey, Jones, you're spoiling them. Too bad. I see where these girls live and what they have to do for a living. For the time that i am with them, I am going to make them happy in order to make me happy. (No, i don't over pay for service).
Last bit of advice from a new guy, and i hate to share it but i will. The best times i've had down there is when I've first given THEM a massage, before they give me one. Hey, that's just how I roll. But, hell, you guys have been around longer than me, what do i know?
You give them massages? Welcome to the club!
I usually give a girl a massage because it breaks the ice, I get a really good "tour" of her body before getting into it with her, and I enjoy myself (and her).
Could anyone possibly consider that as being a mistake?
I get to run my lotion-lubed hands ALL over the body of a sweet young thing,
and she loves it (almost as much as I do).
If she's using me, as Bill Withers says: "you just keep on usin' me until you use me up!").
BlackSultan
12-25-07, 00:37
You give them massages? Welcome to the club!
I usually give a girl a massage because it breaks the ice, I get a really good "tour" of her body before getting into it with her, and I enjoy myself (and her).
Could anyone possibly consider that as being a mistake?
I get to run my lotion-lubed hands ALL over the body of a sweet young thing,
and she loves it (almost as much as I do).
If she's using me, as Bill Withers says: "you just keep on usin' me until you use me up!").
I suck their assholes (after they or I scrub them of course). It shuts them down and brings out the inner freak real quick.
Professor 1
12-25-07, 01:06
I suck their assholes (after they or I scrub them of course). It shuts them down and brings out the inner freak real quick.
"The inner freak," I like that expression.
Davidb3069
12-25-07, 01:32
Dammit man. You can not negotiate according to hearsay. The right thing was to negotiate before leaving the bar. But since you didn't, your only hopes of salvaging it was to say, "This is not my first time here...," not "I have many friends who visit..." They could give a flying fuck about what your friends are used to paying or what someone else told you you should pay. It is what they want YOU to pay. If you have inside knowledge as such that the forum gives you, then when in Rome you need to appear as if it is first-hand knowledge from your own experience. You need game!
Hate to break it to you, but it's not this complex. You make an offer, or she makes an offer (in advance) and if she/you can't agree, you pass on the deal. If do you, you take the deal.
Most of the girls are far better at negociating than the average monger going down there. They do it every day and have loads of experience. They will certainly try to get the upper hand but in the end, if the price is too high or above what they see as the value of the service, the monger isn't going to pay it anyways.
The only thing working in the favor of the monger is the pure desperation of many of the girls. They will often take less than what the service is worth. If the chick isn't desperate, no amount of "game" is going to help you.
David
Davidb3069
12-25-07, 01:36
As far as going there to have a good time, you've already learned how watching someone's reaction to a small act of generosity can make your day too. We may be "mongers", but we don't have to lose our humanity.
(Oh, and Merry Christmas!)
We do forget they are human beings with the same basic needs. Their circumstances put them in the position of having to sell their bodies for money. That doesn't mean we can't treat them with a little more respect and compassion. If something makes the girl feel good and it's not a problem for the monger, more power to him.
Imagine what it would be like if we switched sides. I know I couldn't do it.
David
Davidb3069
12-25-07, 01:40
As to being cheap, I am there for a good time not to see how many girls i can bang (ok, 5 in 4 days but who's counting). This time I brought 50 one dollar bills and tipped everyone because I can. I tipped the shoeshine boys though I didn't get a shine, the espresso girls, the taxi drivers, the girls in La Passion. Why? First, because i can. Second, because it makes me feel good. Third, because it makes them feel good. And four, because every single one of them remembers me and smiles when I walk in the door. They ask me how things are going, direct me where i am going, stop and talk with me. I brought lip gloss from Victoria's Secret and gave them to the girls. They were so fucking happy for a $3 lip gloss, it made me want to fucking cry. Some of you might not like it. Hey, Jones, you're spoiling them. Too bad. I see where these girls live and what they have to do for a living. For the time that i am with them, I am going to make them happy in order to make me happy. (No, i don't over pay for service).
Good for you. Do what makes you happy. There are a lot of outspoken people in these forums that will nickle and dime the girls to death. In the end, all that matters is that you're happy. You don't have to justify anything to anyone.
What you may lack in mongering experience you make up in being a human being. They live a tough life. Every time I see a hurricane rip through that island, it hurts. I got to know a lot of people there. They will never know the good life we have. They'd like to though - that's why they risk their lives to raft over to PR.
David
Ok Gents, now that I am safely back in the states I can relate this story in full detail. The chica, Mary, with a big rose and something tattoo on her right thigh, gives me this "are you kidding me? " response to my 660 peso/$20USD offer. I feel she is trying to game me and my defensive wall rises high and strong. She drops the money, says "Ok, ok " and walks away while dialing the phone number. Standing outside my room, she’s talking to someone, says she is at New Garden, guy is in room #4 (my room). I’m thinking, "Oh shit, the last thing I need is some crazy Dominican friend of hers to come and get crazy with me. " Now a little worried about what’s going to happen, I walk down with her to where the New Garden security guard "G" is. She complains to G, G tells me that girls in DR get paid well for service. I’m thinking "Damn G, you’re hotel security, I thought you would be on my side. " I read too many posts here about ST being 500-1000 and agree with the CrossFire who said there may be too many posts here about trying to be a cheap ass when paying for chicas.
Well anyway, for the time being I’m thinking 500-1000 is the right amount. I increase my offer to 1000 pesos (mix of US and the few pesos I have) and the chica refuses, drops the money on the ground. She threatens to call the police. Her moto-concho friend shows up, but he stays outside the gates of New Garden and we inside are talking around the pool. I ask the girl why she is being so mean, I have been honest, shared honestly about my personal life with her and I don’t understand why she is being so threatening. Besides my massaging her naked body for 90 minutes and talking with her, her total service was no BJ and 15 minutes of uninspired sex in 2 positions (and no kissing). I really feel like she is trying to take advantage of this being my 1st time, 1st night in the DR (I have 4 visits to St. Maarten).
As we are still in a disagreement, she threatens again about calling the police. I ask the NG security to call the police on her about harassing me. Somehow, not sure who made the call but 2 policia with guns show up in about 10 minutes. First chica goes to Policia #1 and says something that I cannot hear. One of the 2 police, one speaks basic English and asks me for my version of what happens. I’m somewhat nervous and give him and honest account of what happened. Somewhere in my story the guy misinterprets something and says I told him 15 minutes and now I’m telling him 2 hours. He says "Don’t lie to me. Oh, so you think you can lie to me, heh? " He is getting upset I’m trying to remain calm while my mind is having flashes of violent scenes from mafia movies. Fortunately, I have some background and training in talking with people who are very angry. I know to let them say everything they need to say and not to resist or be defensive. Thanks to this, I let him say his peace and then he is open to hearing me again. He then says to me that I can tell him anything in English because these other dumb-asses won’t understand a word we are saying. I think this may be where he wants me to offer him a bribe but I’m not clear if that is really what he wants or if he wants to use my bribing as a sign of my bad character. I tell him I offered the chica 1000 pesos and he looks surprised. He tells me the chica told him I offered 100 pesos. He says this "1 mil" to the chica and I can tell he thinks it is a reasonable amount or at least in the ball park. She still refuses. He tells me we can work out a negotiation or take it down to the police station where I will have to stay the night and then pay the judge to hear the case. It will cost at least 2000-3000 pesos for the judge to hear the case. Hmmm. What to do?
There is a part of me saying "screw it, pay the money and end this situation. " And there is another part of my mind saying "this is all a game to them, they know they don’t really want to take me to the police station, they want a little more money and they want to end it here also. " I know it is a game and want to call the chica on it but being right here is probably less important than peacefully resolving the situation. The chica is saying she wants 3000 pesos. I’m thinking that is total abuse and if we need to go to the police station, so be it. So I tell them I’m willing to go to the police station and I return to my room for shoes so I can go with them. This also communicates that I’m serious about not giving up easily.
After I come back from my room with the shoes on, the English speaking officer asks me if I’m sure I want to go with them to the station. He says I can avoid going down there if we can work out a negotiation. As I’m talking with him, there is an alcohol smell to his breathe and some redness in his eyes. I’m not sure what it completely means but it I’m clear I’m not dealing with a 100% sober, rationale individual. Also, while I chat in Spanish (I have basic Spanish) with officer #2, the chica and officer #1 and holding hands affectionately. What the Fu__? How can I get a fair deal here. Officer #2 doesn’t understand the story completely. When I tell him we were only going at it for 15 minutes, he advises me about La Capella for more endurance.
Finally, I call the chica over and offer her $60 USD (roughly 2000 pesos). She thinks about it for a bit and accepts it. I so badly want to go the police office and give her nothing and to tell her "you f-ing *****, you lying, disgusting piece of s---, but I know that righteousness and anger breed more of the same in return. I bite my tongue, give her $60 and say nothing more. I finished with the chica in the room at 4am, she showers and we start the disagreement at 4:20am as she’s leaving. It is now 5:45am (up for 26. 5 hours now), I’m fully alert due to the adrenaline running through my body. I’m am very scared and nervous and yet at the same time, I’m committed to not being totally taken advantage of by a dishonest chica.
Now, in retrospect, 3000 pesos and no argument would have been the better choice Spending any portion of my vacation in a DR jail is worth several hundreds of $$$.
I later learn on this trip that the finer chicas are looking for 2000 pesos for 1-2 hours and turning down offers for 1000, sometimes 1500 is accepted.
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Ok, day 2 and it is time to check out the day scene. Monday mid-afternoon and there are only a few chicas on the street. I buy a cell phone, change money and head towards the beach. At the beach it is mostly anxious vendors and European tourists eating, drinking, lounging and swimming. Hmmm, where are the chicas? Probably most are sleeping at 1-2pm. I check out the Club Residential Hotel (condos where some are rented on a nightly basis) and it is quite nice. It includes condo, with kitchen, living room, big closets. A nice small home. Price is $78 or $88 a night, depends if you get a room facing the street (read noise) or not. I may try that later in the week.
Nothing too eventful the rest of the day until I hire a public taxi to drive me to Puerto Plaza to buy some clothes (my bag has yet to arrive! ). On the way back it is 7:45 or 8pm and I ask my driver about Crystal’s. He says we can drop in if I like. We drop in and the chicas are only starting to get dressed for the bar. The first/only chica I see is Carmello/20yo and she is fine, a 9, light skinned morena with medium build/b-cup chest/great skin/gorgeous Pantene-commercial worthy brown hair and super sexy pink bikini-like outfit. Hmmm. Well too early. Don’t want to make a selection without seeing the full menu, I think I may come back later tonight on another day.
Monday night in Sosua at 10pm is much, much quieter than Sunday night on the streets. After a quick stroll on the street I call Jose (driver) back and ask for a ride to El Bohem and Crystals to check out the scenery. (driver is charging me 270 pesos each way for Sosua to Puerto Plata, about a 25-minute drive)
Distances: Puerto Plata to airport = 20 minutes, airport to Sosua = 10 minutes, PP to Sosua = 30 minutes.
First to El Bohem which closes at 12am and we arrive at 11:30pm. I walk in and I must have a huge dollar bill on my forehead. The place has 2-3 customers total and there are about 18 chicas. I walk in and get the attention of 2 waiters and 14 chicas come over and surround me. I’m their only chance of making additional money tonight. This is kind of fun. Jose and I sit there, drink Presidentes and these chicas are staring at me, licking their lips, gyrating. Quality is very good. Many 7s, 8s and a few 9s. Maybe 1 or two 6s.
I watch my own private 14-girl table dance for 3 minutes and select a stunning morena named Mariela, 5’4" knock out body, flat tummy, full C-cup breasts, tight body all-around. The music is so loud in the club it is almost impossible to talk. We step outside to converse. After 5 minutes of chit-chat I ask her how much for short-time and TLN. She says $120 USD 2 hours on site, $160 TLN (which is like 4000 – 4500 pesos respectively). I’m the only customer, club closes in 10 minutes and I figure I’ve got some bargaining power. I attempt to negotiate. I do get a sample kiss and I’m confident this girl can rock my world. I tell her I will pay 3000 total. She says no. I attempt to have Jose help negotiate to no avail. I’m thinking she has the choice of 3000 or zero and why in the world is she choosing zero. I don’t understand. I can afford 4500 but I’m stubborn and fail to see why she won’t negotiate. I make it clear it is 3000 or nada and she stands firm at 4500. WTF. I’m a good-looking, athletic dude and am baffled why with no other options for the night she would settle for 0. I found out she "lives" on site and must pay a salida 24 hours a day (or so she says). Grrrrr.
Ok, we leave and rush over to Crystals which has just closed also and the last folks are stumbling out. A few chicas leave but several also "live" there. I get propositioned by several half-naked chicas and decide to call Carmello from earlier that night. She answers the phone just as she steps out from the other group of chicas. We stand and talk on the steps for about 10 minutes while the other girls are hanging out in the background talking. She also won’t budge from $150 USD for TLN. WTF. I offer 3000 max and she says she would do that short time at a cabana. Must be a lot of pride that a chica doesn’t want to go for less than X. But seems to me in a third world country that $100 vs. Nada is an easy, clear choice. I remain stubborn and leave with Jose when she is unwilling to step down any pesos. Perhaps if she would have dropped to $120 she may have had a customer.
Argghhh! Back to Sosua.
Back in Sosua after a pit stop for fried chicken and plantanes (3 pieces of chicken) all for 90 pesos. Best meal for the price this trip. We get to Sosua at 1:20am and I say goodnight to Jose. Classico’s and Latinos are busier than earlier but nothing like the crowd of Sunday night. I start the hunt over here. I see several very doable chicas with other gringos. At 1:45am Classico’s disco closes and a crowd exits as a pack of motorconchos wait with baited breath for a fare. I’m not seeing anything to spectacular here. I decide to follow the crowd and head over to Playa Chiquita casino by motorconcho (too long to walk). At the casino I see two 9. 5s that are taken, and then one stunning 10+ playmate material in the nite club. This girl can dance her ass off. After 5 minutes of dancing, I’m clear every guy in the joint has one think on their mind. bonking this chica. I can think of nothing else at this point. She is with a well-dressed 50yo looking guy and no doubt commanding top $$. Wow. I will be fantasizing about watching her dance in those tight white pants and the top of her g-string protruding as she shook that precious little butt. Oh my God.
Next beautiful chica is a small, light-skinned morena, 4’11 and young looking. She can also dance and is getting a lot of attention for a while. I watch her dance for 45 minutes and I’m thinking she is more interested in herself and dancing than in hombres. Well, I look at my watch and decide now is the time to find out who’s interested and who’s not. I make a quick list of 4 chicas in the club and start with the fine young dancer. I expect she is likely to blow me off but she quickly and eagerly comes to sit and talk with me. She is young, 18, has 3yo bambino, energetic, friendly and fairly innocent being relatively new to the "business". This is Mariela #2. And she is reportly from Santiago (more than half the chicas I meet report to be in town for N days from Santiago to meet chicos and earn $$). She is probably 92lbs soaking wet. Tight little body, pretty face, a-cup bra. She is very affectionate, kissing, hugging and really gets into it. I form a good connection with this chica and 2 hours turns into TLN. In the morning 2000 pesos and she seems happy. Very much a GFE with full service, DFK and multiple positions with a great attitude. This is what I came to the DR for. We exchange phone numbers and depart promising to call one another.
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Mr Enternational
12-25-07, 06:34
Hate to break it to you, but it's not this complex. You make an offer, or she makes an offer (in advance) and if she/you can't agree, you pass on the deal. If do you, you take the deal.
Most of the girls are far better at negociating than the average monger going down there. They do it every day and have loads of experience. They will certainly try to get the upper hand but in the end, if the price is too high or above what they see as the value of the service, the monger isn't going to pay it anyways.
The only thing working in the favor of the monger is the pure desperation of many of the girls. They will often take less than what the service is worth. If the chick isn't desperate, no amount of "game" is going to help you.
David
Bro, if we were talking about Rio I would agree, Bangkok - agree, Dubai - agree, but the little sleepy town of Sosua - disagree. Game (or maybe I'm just that beautiful) has gotten me more free (meaning no strings attached: no money, no gifts, no meals, no drinks) hookers from the bars and streets of Sosua than any other mongering destination in the world. Like my friend described it to me before my first time there....He said that it reminded him of Rio before they started making rap videos there and all the guys started going down trying to be ballers and passing out money as if it grew on trees. Many of the girls had a type of innocence and naivity unlike the infestation of hardened pro-ism that exists there now. And when I arrived in Sosua, lo and behold he was right.
I never got a chance to report on the last time I was there back in September so here it goes:
The last person I was with in Sosua I pulled out of Latinos. She was standing in the same spot for quite a while with a friend and I called her over. She asked me why I didn't like any of the other girls around. (She was specifically making an honest reference to two transvestites who were in front of me trying to draw attention to themselves from anyone who would look. How could she not know that they were not women? Then again, there was a Dominican guy all over one of them like he had just struck gold. I don't know. The shit was just so obvious to me.)
I told her that I had been watching her and that she was more my type. I told her that I was staying at the Europa and asked where she lived. She told me that she was in an apartment that is right before Europa. I asked her if we could go to her place and she accepted. But first she wanted to find her friend to let her know she was leaving. (I could not risk her getting back to her friend. It is just my luck, as has happened before, that further communication with the friend would open a can of worms and throw a monkey wrench into my whole setup. Friends are known to put their two cents in with questions and responses like, "How much is he giving you?" "That is not enough." or "How long are you staying with him?" "That is too much time.") I replied telling her that she is an adult and her friend will later realize that she left with me. She agreed.
We went to her place. Sure enough it was in a building that was about a two minute walk from Europa on the same side of the street. I would have never even guessed it was a building full of apartments. She removed the padlock from her door. The crib was simple. One room and a bathroom. No A/C, no refrigerator, stove, or microwave. Just a bed, a few sets of clothes hanging on a rack and about 10 pairs of shoes on the floor. We were laying on the bed talking. Come to find out she is from Santo Domingo and came to Sosua to make money to support her baby. She asked why I wanted to come to her apartment. I told her that I just wanted to talk to her and get to know her.
After a while I got thirsty but she did not have any beverages. I told her that I had some juice and water in the refrigerator back at my room. She said she was not thirsty but would accompany me there. Next thing I knew we were back at the Europa taking showers, fucking, and falling asleep. The next morning I awoke to my cel ringing. On the caller id I could see it was one of my non-pros who was supposed to be arriving from Santiago. It would be her first time in Sosua. I was praying that she wasn't already in the lobby. I went to the bathroom and dialed her back and she said that she was on the bus and they were about an hour from Sosua.
I went ahead and took a dump and a shower then went back to the room to wake old girl up. She went in and took a shower and came back out and sat on the bed. I told her that I was going to go to the beach for awhile before I had to leave for home. I asked her if she would like for me to have her phone number or her email. She said that she did not have email and did not know how to use a computer. But she gave me her phone number. I told her that I had enjoyed her company and sent her on her way. Money was never even discussed. I quickly, but meticulously performed damage control to make sure there would be no evidence for my non-pro to find.
Bro, if we were talking about Rio I would agree, Bangkok - agree, Dubai - agree, but the little sleepy town of Sosua - disagree. Game (or maybe I'm just that beautiful) has gotten me more free (meaning no strings attached: no money, no gifts, no meals, no drinks) hookers from the bars and streets of Sosua than any other mongering destination in the world. Like my friend described it to me before my first time there....He said that it reminded him of Rio before they started making rap videos there and all the guys started going down trying to be ballers and passing out money as if it grew on trees. Many of the girls had a type of innocence and naivity unlike the infestation of hardened pro-ism that exists there now. And when I arrived in Sosua, lo and behold he was right.
I never got a chance to report on the last time I was there back in September so here it goes:
The last person I was with in Sosua I pulled out of Latinos. She was standing in the same spot for quite a while with a friend and I called her over. She asked me why I didn't like any of the other girls around. (She was specifically making an honest reference to two transvestites who were in front of me trying to draw attention to themselves from anyone who would look. How could she not know that they were not women? Then again, there was a Dominican guy all over one of them like he had just struck gold. I don't know. The shit was just so obvious to me.)
I told her that I had been watching her and that she was more my type. I told her that I was staying at the Europa and asked where she lived. She told me that she was in an apartment that is right before Europa. I asked her if we could go to her place and she accepted. But first she wanted to find her friend to let her know she was leaving. (I could not risk her getting back to her friend. It is just my luck, as has happened before, that further communication with the friend would open a can of worms and throw a monkey wrench into my whole setup. Friends are known to put their two cents in with questions and responses like, "How much is he giving you?" "That is not enough." or "How long are you staying with him?" "That is too much time.") I replied telling her that she is an adult and her friend will later realize that she left with me. She agreed.
We went to her place. Sure enough it was in a building that was about a two minute walk from Europa on the same side of the street. I would have never even guessed it was a building full of apartments. She removed the padlock from her door. The crib was simple. One room and a bathroom. No A/C, no refrigerator, stove, or microwave. Just a bed, a few sets of clothes hanging on a rack and about 10 pairs of shoes on the floor. We were laying on the bed talking. Come to find out she is from Santo Domingo and came to Sosua to make money to support her baby. She asked why I wanted to come to her apartment. I told her that I just wanted to talk to her and get to know her.
After a while I got thirsty but she did not have any beverages. I told her that I had some juice and water in the refrigerator back at my room. She said she was not thirsty but would accompany me there. Next thing I knew we were back at the Europa taking showers, fucking, and falling asleep. The next morning I awoke to my cel ringing. On the caller id I could see it was one of my non-pros who was supposed to be arriving from Santiago. It would be her first time in Sosua. I was praying that she wasn't already in the lobby. I went to the bathroom and dialed her back and she said that she was on the bus and they were about an hour from Sosua.
I went ahead and took a dump and a shower then went back to the room to wake old girl up. She went in and took a shower and came back out and sat on the bed. I told her that I was going to go to the beach for awhile before I had to leave for home. I asked her if she would like for me to have her phone number or her email. She said that she did not have email and did not know how to use a computer. But she gave me her phone number. I told her that I had enjoyed her company and sent her on her way. Money was never even discussed. I quickly, but meticulously performed damage control to make sure there would be no evidence for my non-pro to find.
So let me get this straight.
This girl is working to take care of her child;
its obvious she's dirt-poor
and Mr World Traveler didn't give her a cent and you're bragging about it?
Like you're proud of yourself?
So when did you last get a humanity check?
I think its missing.
So let me get this straight.
This girl is working to take care of her child;
its obvious she's dirt-poor
and Mr World Traveler didn't give her a cent and you're bragging about it?
Like you're proud of yourself?
So when did you last get a humanity check?
I think its missing.
Talk about a direct hit.
I think sometimes we forget that most of these chicas do this for no other reason but to feed their families. Most girls I run into are taking care of a family of 4 to 6 people in a part of the world where finding gainful employment is near impossible. I am just as guilty as anyone by exploiting the situation by simply mongering, but to exploit the naiveté of these chicas by getting freebies and bragging about it is difficult for me to comprehend.
I am not trying to flame here, trust me, but I am only trying to bring out, in a different way, that we can punt and be human at the same time. These chicas are not pieces of meat. They are Mothers, daughters and, although it may sound strange, many times responsible bread winners.
My 2 cents.
I have read two years worth of forum posts and still have a few questions:-)
First, has anyone contracted a STD from any of the girls in Sousa? Most boards mention std concerns(either a particular girl has something etc) but this board is void of such concerns. Given the prevelance of BBBJ I'm surprised no one has come down with anything.
Second the jury seems out on whether USD should be exchanged at the airport in Santo Domingo. Some folks say to bring no money and take all of your cash out of the ATMs. Some say exchange it. Which is the better?
I am flying into Santo Domingo at 7pm. Can I still get a Caribe bus to Sousa at that time? I have decided to go to Sousa rather than Santo Domingo for the prices, etc.
Do the girls liked being photographed? I am ONLY going to hunt down chicks with DD's. After seeing so many of the top heavy Domincans on bigtitscurvyasses I am going to take a ton of pictures and videos. In some instances I will only photograph them as I am a photography nut.
Are the safes at Europa and New Garden large enough to accomodate a laptop?
Thanks everyone.
Thanks.
Talk about a direct hit.
I think sometimes we forget that most of these chicas do this for no other reason but to feed their families. Most girls I run into are taking care of a family of 4 to 6 people in a part of the world where finding gainful employment is near impossible. I am just as guilty as anyone by exploiting the situation by simply mongering, but to exploit the naiveté of these chicas by getting freebies and bragging about it is difficult for me to comprehend.
I am not trying to flame here, trust me, but I am only trying to bring out, in a different way, that we can punt and be human at the same time. These chicas are not pieces of meat. They are Mothers, daughters and, although it may sound strange, many times responsible bread winners.
My 2 cents.
Merry Xmas everybody.
I really don't like to get into online flame wars, but it does seem to me that guys often get upset if they think other guys are paying too much, on the grounds that this will poison the well for future visitors to the location in question.
I think it is equally possible that guys may poison the well by ripping off girls.
Maybe we need to invent the concept of Fair Trade Mongering just like we have Fair Trade coffee and other third world products.
Wearing your Fair Trade Monger badge will, of course, get you a discount from Fair Trade Providers.
I have read two years worth of forum posts and still have a few questions:-)
First, has anyone contracted a STD from any of the girls in Sousa? Most boards mention std concerns(either a particular girl has something etc) but this board is void of such concerns. Given the prevelance of BBBJ I'm surprised no one has come down with anything.
Who knows? BBBJ is unlikely to transmit an infection to a man. Condomless anal sex is extremely likely to give you an infection, especially an e-coli urinary infection. However, you can buy antibiotics cheaply without a presription in the DR and a 5-day course of Cipro should take care of most infections.
Using a condom for intercourse greatly reduces chances of an STD. Most of the girls shave or trim, which greatly reduces chances of parasites such as crabs or scabies.
I have never caught an infection from around 100 girls in the DR, but a sample of 1 is not scientific. I have only had sex without condoms with a handful, but I have had BBBJ and DATY with many. Hope this helps.
Second the jury seems out on whether USD should be exchanged at the airport in Santo Domingo. Some folks say to bring no money and take all of your cash out of the ATMs. Some say exchange it. Which is the better?
You can change money at a fair rate at a BANK at the airport, but not at the change office inside the customs area. You will find the same thing at Miami airport--ripoff change places inside the airport. ATMs are fine. However you may wish to carry a $100 bill or two just in case you have an ATM malfunction or lost card or something.
I am flying into Santo Domingo at 7pm. Can I still get a Caribe bus to Sousa at that time? I have decided to go to Sousa rather than Santo Domingo for the prices, etc.
Last bus leaves SD at 7:00 p.m., so no. BTW, the place is called Sosua.
Do the girls liked being photographed? I am ONLY going to hunt down chicks with DD's. After seeing so many of the top heavy Domincans on bigtitscurvyasses I am going to take a ton of pictures and videos. In some instances I will only photograph them as I am a photography nut.
No, they don't, especially if intended for publication, but you can negotiate anything.
If I cant take the bus after 7pm can I take a regional airplane to Sosua? I dont want to waste a night in Santo Domingo because I am only in DR for three days. I've read the SD forum and there doesnt seem to be any action for less than 1500 pesos.
Any suggestions how I can get to Sosua after 7pm(other than a rental car) would be appreciated.
Who knows? BBBJ is unlikely to transmit an infection to a man. Condomless anal sex is extremely likely to give you an infection, especially an e-coli urinary infection. However, you can buy antibiotics cheaply without a presription in the DR and a 5-day course of Cipro should take care of most infections.
Using a condom for intercourse greatly reduces chances of an STD. Most of the girls shave or trim, which greatly reduces chances of parasites such as crabs or scabies.
I have never caught an infection from around 100 girls in the DR, but a sample of 1 is not scientific. I have only had sex without condoms with a handful, but I have had BBBJ and DATY with many. Hope this helps.
You can change money at a fair rate at a BANK at the airport, but not at the change office inside the customs area. You will find the same thing at Miami airport--ripoff change places inside the airport. ATMs are fine. However you may wish to carry a $100 bill or two just in case you have an ATM malfunction or lost card or something.
Last bus leaves SD at 7:00 p.m., so no. BTW, the place is called Sosua.
No, they don't, especially if intended for publication, but you can negotiate anything.
If I cant take the bus after 7pm can I take a regional airplane to Sosua? I dont want to waste a night in Santo Domingo because I am only in DR for three days. I've read the SD forum and there doesnt seem to be any action for less than 1500 pesos.
Any suggestions how I can get to Sosua after 7pm(other than a rental car) would be appreciated.
Change your flight to an earlier one. There are usually at least 3 flights a day to SDQ. Change your flight to Puerto Plata (or Santiago). It may cost you a change fee, but it will be worth it and will save you the $40 cab fare from SDQ to the bus station, plus cost of bus and food en route. Plus it will save you time.
You could also get a taxi to take you from SDQ to Sosua. Maybe $120.
You won't get much in Sosua for less than 1500 pesos, not much less anyway. Are you sure you can afford to make this trip? Did your mother book the flight to SDQ for you without consulting you?
Who knows?
... Most of the girls shave or trim, which greatly reduces chances of parasites such as crabs or scabies.Just one side comment. Shaving also increases the skin to skin contact area which if there is genital herpes, can elevate the chance of transition.
has anyone contracted a STD from any of the girls in Sousa?This is actually a question not particular to Sosua girls, but the risks of mongering in general. Here is the best summary I have found of the involved risks. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=664087&postcount=62
Second the jury seems out on whether USD should be exchanged at the airport in Santo Domingo. Some folks say to bring no money and take all of your cash out of the ATMs. Some say exchange it. Which is the better?People are trying to tell you change just enough money from the airport to get you to an ATM on the outside. Maybe a little bit more in case the power is out and the ATM are down.
ATMs and walk in Banks are the best way to go for getting superior currency rates than all other options. The DR Bank uses a contracted rates schema with the targeted US bank. Ease of use is by far the ATM.
I would also like to know about the safes being large enough for laptops. I seem to recall a post giving dimensions somewhere.
If I cant take the bus after 7pm can I take a regional airplane to Sosua? I dont want to waste a night in Santo Domingo because I am only in DR for three days. I've read the SD forum and there doesnt seem to be any action for less than 1500 pesos.
Any suggestions how I can get to Sosua after 7pm(other than a rental car) would be appreciated.
You might want to re-think your trip. Other than taking a taxi to Sosua you will be stuck in Santo Domingo.
What day do you arrive? If you arrive during the week by the time you get to Sosua everything will be closed.
What time is your return flight? You need about 5 hours travel time to get from Sosua to SDQ.
You might want to re-think your trip. Other than taking a taxi to Sosua you will be stuck in Santo Domingo.
What day do you arrive? If you arrive during the week by the time you get to Sosua everything will be closed.
What time is your return flight? You need about 5 hours travel time to get from Sosua to SDQ.
Thanks for all the relevant information from the board members(such as Bq Ribs). The smart ass comments from other members arent necessary as this is an informational forum and not a grudge board.
I am getting in January 1st at 7pm. I cannot change my plans. If I have to pay the $80 dollar taxi ride I will as it is only a 2 hour ride. I can be in Sousa by 10:30 for sure.
Anyone have an experience taking the taxi from SD to Sousa?
Thanks for all the relevant information from the board members(such as Bq Ribs). The smart ass comments from other members arent necessary as this is an informational forum and not a grudge board.
I am getting in January 1st at 7pm. I cannot change my plans. If I have to pay the $80 dollar taxi ride I will as it is only a 2 hour ride. I can be in Sousa by 10:30 for sure.
Anyone have an experience taking the taxi from SD to Sousa?
Sorry if I offended you. Have you already tried to change the flight? If you are flying from the US on American Airlines it may be possible. Puerto Plata airport is less than 10 minutes from Sosua, so even if it costs you $100 to change (which i think is the fee), it would still be a big savings both on expense and time over the 2 legs of the journey. You would not have to get up early on the day of departure, and you could squeeze in a girl or two before leaving for the airport after lunch. Think about it.
If you are flying from Europe, you are probably stuck with your flight.
It is not a 2-hour ride to Sosua. I would say 3 1/2 hours if all goes well. It will take at least 40 minutes to get from SDQ to the northern highway before you even start the journey north. And Santiago to Sosua is the best part of 90 minutes on some pretty scary roads on the pass through the mountains.
It will not cost $80 for the taxi one way. I think at least $120.
It costs $40 just to Santo Domingo, and the driver has to make a long return journey too, arriving home in the wee small hours.
I have flown into SDQ in the days when the fare was much cheaper than POP (now it seems to be equal) and have overnighted at the hotel Mercure and traveled on the next day and arrived round lunch time. But I had my return flight out of POP.
I just checked and there seem to still be some seats available from NY and Miami to POP, even if you have to return through San Juan.
It may be that you have no choice but to take a taxi from SDQ to Sosua, and then return to SDQ, but this will make it a rough and tiring trip, not to mention expensive.
Huge Hefner
12-25-07, 22:03
Jedi,
When you get to Miami go to the desk and try to change your flight to POP it will save a lot of hassle and it should cost $150. All that back and forth between SDQ and Sosua with only a 3 day trip you will only have one complete day in Sosua and if there's a problem on the road going back to SDQ you are screwed.
Good luck.
Sorry if I offended you. Have you already tried to change the flight? If you are flying from the US on American Airlines it may be possible. Puerto Plata airport is less than 10 minutes from Sosua, so even if it costs you $100 to change (which i think is the fee), it would still be a big savings both on expense and time over the 2 legs of the journey. You would not have to get up early on the day of departure, and you could squeeze in a girl or two before leaving for the airport after lunch. Think about it.
If you are flying from Europe, you are probably stuck with your flight.
It is not a 2-hour ride to Sosua. I would say 3 1/2 hours if all goes well. It will take at least 40 minutes to get from SDQ to the northern highway before you even start the journey north. And Santiago to Sosua is the best part of 90 minutes on some pretty scary roads on the pass through the mountains.
It will not cost $80 for the taxi one way. I think at least $120.
It costs $40 just to Santo Domingo, and the driver has to make a long return journey too, arriving home in the wee small hours.
I have flown into SDQ in the days when the fare was much cheaper than POP (now it seems to be equal) and have overnighted at the hotel Mercure and traveled on the next day and arrived round lunch time. But I had my return flight out of POP.
I just checked and there seem to still be some seats available from NY and Miami to POP, even if you have to return through San Juan.
It may be that you have no choice but to take a taxi from SDQ to Sosua, and then return to SDQ, but this will make it a rough and tiring trip, not to mention expensive.
Thanks for the information. I am flying from Los Angeles. Flights into POP seem alot more expensive than flying into SD. So I guess I am screwed.
My flight out is at 11:10am so I guess I will have to take the bus the night before to be sure I am at the airport on time.
After all of the international mongering I have done I should have caught this important oversight(i.e. not being close to Sosua and only having three days). I need to research better in the future.
Are there any regional airlines that can get me from SD to Sousa quickly? Also I have been told the Caribe website is outdated(the times). How do you get the correct departure times from SD and Sosua?
Sunset Strip
12-25-07, 22:36
Jeidi,
It seems you should plan on just staying in Santo Domingo. Sorry, but with only three days in the country and arriving late on the first, there is not much time to worry about Sosua.
I hear there is a redlight district in Santo Domingo that should be fun for you. Flights from LAX to POP are from $600-$800 usually. American has the best rates.
By the time you get to Sosua you will only have one day in town and will have spent whatever you saved on the flight to Santo Domingo on transportation to Sosua. Just have a good time where you are and post on the forum to let us know how it was.
Happy Holidays guys/
TJ
Huge Hefner
12-25-07, 22:48
Jedi,
If you are flying from LAX where is your stop over point? You can change your ticket there or even from LAX.
I went from LAX to POP last Sept and changed my ticket to stay longer in DR and it costs $150 to make changes with American Airlines.
Thanks for the information. I am flying from Los Angeles. Flights into POP seem alot more expensive than flying into SD. So I guess I am screwed.
My flight out is at 11:10am so I guess I will have to take the bus the night before to be sure I am at the airport on time.
After all of the international mongering I have done I should have caught this important oversight(i.e. not being close to Sosua and only having three days). I need to research better in the future.
Are there any regional airlines that can get me from SD to Sousa quickly? Also I have been told the Caribe website is outdated(the times). How do you get the correct departure times from SD and Sosua?
As far as I know the schedule on the Caribe tours Web site is accurate. Their telephone number is on the Web site. Not allowed to post numbers here. In any case the buses run hourly, so just go to the bus station and wait for the next one.
I don't think there is an internal flight to POP from SDQ.
Also I have been told the Caribe website is outdated(the times). How do you get the correct departure times from SD and Sosua?
Caribe tours to Sosua is every hour on the hour starting at 6 am. The last bus leaving Santo Domingo for Sosua is at 7 pm.
Like previously mentioned you have to figure at least a four hour taxi ride from SDQ to Sosua, especially at night. I am not too sure I would be brave enough to ride in a taxi thru the mountian rode to Sosua from Santiago. It is scary enough in broad daylight.
Santo Domingo is not really a bad place to visit as long as you know where to go. You have the girls and some nice tourist stuff to do (El Conde, Zona Colonial, Malecon, shopping malls, casionos, great restaurants, baseball, etc.).
If your flight lands on time at 7pm you can figure one hour to get out of the airport and in a cab. That would put your arrival time at your hotel in Sosua at midnight. Check-in at hotel another thirty minutes. I am not positive but I believe the curfew is back in effect the evening of January 1. If so, all the bars will close at midnight. I will do a search to see if I can verify when the holiday hours end.
If you have an 11 am return flight you should be at the airport at 9am (most airlines policy). To arrive at SDQ at 9am you need to leave Sosua by 5am at the latest using a taxi.
It will not cost $80 for the taxi one way. I think at least $120.
It costs $40 just to Santo Domingo, and the driver has to make a long return journey too, arriving home in the wee small hours.
Frannie you pretty much have it right. I did a quick online search of a few cab companies and the price from SDQ to Sosua range from a low of $135 to a high of $170. It may seem like a lot but that is a long haul and a good eight to nine hours round trip for the driver. Deduct cost of gas and wear and tear on the vehicle the driver doesn't end up with much cash for a full days/nights work.
That taxi cash would get you one good looking TLN chica in Santo Domingo.
Frannie you pretty much have it right. I did a quick online search of a few cab companies and the price from SDQ to Sosua range from a low of $135 to a high of $170. It may seem like a lot but that is a long haul and a good eight to nine hours round trip for the driver. Deduct cost of gas and wear and tear on the vehicle the driver doesn't end up with much cash for a full days/nights work.
That taxi cash would get you one good looking TLN chica in Santo Domingo.
Yes, but you know, there is no harm in going up to Sosua on the morning bus on day two, staying one night, then back again the next evening. He is on vacation and has nothing else to do. The bus is not expensive at all--less than $10 each way, and he can sample the chicas of the capital and of Sosua, see quite a bit of the DR and figure out the lay of the land for his next trip.
Mr Enternational
12-26-07, 04:35
So let me get this straight.
This girl is working to take care of her child;
its obvious she's dirt-poor
and Mr World Traveler didn't give her a cent and you're bragging about it?
Like you're proud of yourself?
So when did you last get a humanity check?
I think its missing.
Maybe I am missing something here. I was merely responding to David's post with an example of it not always being about money and negociating. I do not recall bragging about anything. As I said, the subject of money never came up. I did not set out and say hey I am going to go home with you and fuck you. It was nothing like that. We were merely talking and getting to know each other and things happened.
If a hooker (it was never even established that this young lady was a hooker by the way, as there are also non-pros that go to Latino's) wants to fuck me for free then that is between me and her. Just because you had to pay don't tell me that I am inhumane because I did not have to. If we are both at McDonald's and the cashier makes you pay but gives me my Big Mac meal for free or at a discounted rate, who are you to get shitty with me? Like I said, that is not the first time that has happened to me in Sosua (as my previous posts will verify) and I am sure that it is not only me that it has happened to. Hell, I have held out a handful of money before and the girl has declined, saying that she only wanted money for a motoconcho. Maybe it is you who needs the humanity check if you think that everybody is after money.
Yes, but you know, there is no harm in going up to Sosua on the morning bus on day two, staying one night, then back again the next evening. He is on vacation and has nothing else to do. The bus is not expensive at all--less than $10 each way, and he can sample the chicas of the capital and of Sosua, see quite a bit of the DR and figure out the lay of the land for his next trip.
You beat me to the post. Just what I was thinking.
Maybe I am missing something here. I was merely responding to David's post with an example of it not always being about money and negociating. I do not recall bragging about anything. As I said, the subject of money never came up. I did not set out and say hey I am going to go home with you and fuck you. It was nothing like that. We were merely talking and getting to know each other and things happened.
If a hooker (it was never even established that this young lady was a hooker by the way, as there are also non-pros that go to Latino's) wants to fuck me for free then that is between me and her. Just because you had to pay don't tell me that I am inhumane because I did not have to. If we are both at McDonald's and the cashier makes you pay but gives me my Big Mac meal for free or at a discounted rate, who are you to get shitty with me? Like I said, that is not the first time that has happened to me in Sosua (as my previous posts will verify) and I am sure that it is not only me that it has happened to. Hell, I have held out a handful of money before and the girl has declined, saying that she only wanted money for a motoconcho. Maybe it is you who needs the humanity check if you think that everybody is after money.
Mr E the same thing has happened to me many of times while I have been in Sosua where a chica has asked me for nothing what so ever all these chicas are not hard core in the DR unlike other monger destinations and thats what I love about the DR.
You beat me to the post. Just what I was thinking.
Since you only have 3 days to spare just stay in Santo Dominigo dont waste your time 5-8 hours traveling on Caribe Tours to go up North you made your bed already so just lie in it. Man up and do your research on Santo Domingo/Boca Chica and you cant go wrong whats done is done already!!!!
Mr Enternational
12-26-07, 05:19
Yes, but you know, there is no harm in going up to Sosua on the morning bus on day two, staying one night, then back again the next evening. He is on vacation and has nothing else to do. The bus is not expensive at all--less than $10 each way, and he can sample the chicas of the capital and of Sosua, see quite a bit of the DR and figure out the lay of the land for his next trip.
True indeed. It is quite a bargain for $6. But that is a loooong bus trip, especially if you will have to make a roundtrip. I remember waking up leaving Boca Chica about 9:30am and taking a bus into the capital. When I got to Caribe Tours the next scheduled bus was at 12:30. I ended up getting to Sosua about 5:00 or so. So it pretty much ate up my whole day. But I did have time to hit the beach for a quick swim before sundown.
There are no assigned seats so before the bus is ready to board everybody makes a line at the door. I was first in the line and I only had a backpack (hence no luggage to check underneath) so I was able to get the front seat with the leg room that is opposite the driver's side. There were many beautiful women boarding the bus but they were all going towards the back and some were with their boyfriends or husbands. An average girl who was not really my type decided to sit next to me. During the trip she offered and shared her food and drink with me.
In hindsight, after reading Yanqui's post, maybe I should have given her money for it. She was obviously dirt poor. I knew this because right after we left the Puerto Plata stop she opened her suitcase and changed into a pair of clear high-heeled shoes. Wink-wink! We both got off at the Sosua stop where motoconchos were already waiting. I hopped on one and headed for the Europa. Later that night we spoke to each other for a hot second at Latino's before I called the other girl over.
Maybe I am missing something here.
If a hooker (it was never even established that this young lady was a hooker by the way, as there are also non-pros that go to Latino's) wants to fuck me for free then that is between me and her.
Young Dominican women do not go to Latino's or Merengue bar for a night out with their friends. They go there to meet gringos. Why would they go to a place where the drinks are so expensive relative to their earnings when there are tipicos they can go to that are cheaper, or stay around their barrio?
Some girls are not really pros, or are very naive and inexperienced with gringos, and are too ashamed to ask for money for sex, but it does not mean that they don't need it.
They hope to meet a boyfriend, rather than just sell sex, because they see other girls who have foreign boyfriends who help them out financially, and maybe get them out of the DR.
In Dominican relationships it is assumed that the man will provide financially in some way, according to his means.
I don't think you quite understand how unequal these relationships are in terms of power if you think that Dominican girls are going out to places like Latino's just hoping for a good night out and get laid by a good-looking stranger.
The fact that this girl gave you her phone number indicates that she was hoping for some kind of ongoing relationship, which clearly was not your intention. When you asked her for her phone number, you gave her the impression that you wanted to see her again. So she did not ask you for money, because she did not want to deter you from calling again.
You said you received a phone call from one of your "non-pros from Santiago" and that you cleaned up the apartment to conceal the 'evidence'. Clearly you did not see the girl you spent the night with as a non-pro of equal status to your non-pro visitor from Santiago.
In such a situation, even if she did not ask for money, it would have been appropriate to offer her a gift of cash to buy something for her child. In that way she would have been able to accept it without it looking like cash for sex.
We see again and again on these boards that misunderstandings arise because of cultural differences. Working women who are financially independent in the US and other developed countries will go out on the town to get some casual sex without any thought of getting money or benefits from the men they screw. It does not work that way in the DR, at least not with the kind of poor girls you will meet in place like Sosua. Sexual relationships are a means of exchange.
Ok Gents, now that I am safely back in the states I can relate this story in full detail. The chica, Mary, with a big rose and something tattoo on her right thigh, gives me this "are you kidding me? " response to my 660 peso/$20USD offer. I feel she is trying to game me and my defensive wall rises high and strong. She drops the money, says "Ok, ok " and walks away while dialing the phone number. Standing outside my room, she’s talking to someone, says she is at New Garden, guy is in room #4 (my room). I’m thinking, "Oh shit, the last thing I need is some crazy Dominican friend of hers to come and get crazy with me. " Now a little worried about what’s going to happen, I walk down with her to where the New Garden security guard "G" is. She complains to G, G tells me that girls in DR get paid well for service. I’m thinking "Damn G, you’re hotel security, I thought you would be on my side. " I read too many posts here about ST being 500-1000 and agree with the CrossFire who said there may be too many posts here about trying to be a cheap ass when paying for chicas....
...Now, in retrospect, 3000 pesos and no argument would have been the better choice Spending any portion of my vacation in a DR jail is worth several hundreds of $$$.
I later learn on this trip that the finer chicas are looking for 2000 pesos for 1-2 hours and turning down offers for 1000, sometimes 1500 is accepted.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Thanks for posting this. You had a tough experience, but it is one that a lot of readers here can learn from and hopefully avoid going through what you went through.
It is not easy to deal with a foreign country on your first trip, and to negotiate with natives who are fully oriented to the local system. At least you got out of it all safely.
In general, although the general public sees third world prostitution in terms of exploitation and sleazy sex, it always amazes me just how well most people on both sides (them and us) behave in the arena of paid sex, how few disputes arise, and how most participants are gentle, affectionate, and considerate of each other to a much greater degree than you might expect.
Mr Enternational
12-26-07, 07:12
Young Dominican women do not go to Latino's or Merengue bar for a night out with their friends. They go there to meet gringos. Why would they go to a place where the drinks are so expensive relative to their earnings when there are tipicos they can go to that are cheaper, or stay around their barrio?
Again I have to disagree. I have seen Dominican women coming together to celebrate in Latino's paying no mind that there were gringos in the place. I have also seen Dominican women with Dominican men coming to party at Latino's. My friend's Dominican girlfriend has brought him to Latino's, her not knowing there were hookers there. And there are also European women on vacation. Not to mention the German girl who I met in Latino's and have had relations with. She has a job in admin at the airport in Puerto Plata. And my immigration officer at the airport? Let's not pretend that Latino's, Sosua, or the DR's only existence is but for gringo's and poor, desolate, innocent hookers to combine. Because my experience in those places speak to the contrary.
Pathologic
12-26-07, 11:09
Who knows? BBBJ is unlikely to transmit an infection to a man. Condomless anal sex is extremely likely to give you an infection, especially an e-coli urinary infection. However, you can buy antibiotics cheaply without a presription in the DR and a 5-day course of Cipro should take care of most infections.
Using a condom for intercourse greatly reduces chances of an STD.
Completely agree with you...although zithro is a good complementary recommendation to make sure all nasties are deleted (single dose - 48hr absorption)! I can assure other readers that BBBJ can, and quite often does transit the clap (gonorrhea) and various other nasty organisms. As you correctly say BBBJ does not have the same propensity to transmit as anal or unprotected anal and vaginal, however please don't think that BBBJ's are completely safe. Refer http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-151040.html.
Not prevalent in DR, mostly in Asian strains of bacterial STD's like neisseria gonorrhoeae and other urethral and cervical STD's, it comes down to the amount of risk you wish to accept.
Maybe I am missing something here. I was merely responding to David's post with an example of it not always being about money and negociating. I do not recall bragging about anything. As I said, the subject of money never came up. I did not set out and say hey I am going to go home with you and fuck you. It was nothing like that. We were merely talking and getting to know each other and things happened.
If a hooker (it was never even established that this young lady was a hooker by the way, as there are also non-pros that go to Latino's) wants to fuck me for free then that is between me and her. Just because you had to pay don't tell me that I am inhumane because I did not have to. If we are both at McDonald's and the cashier makes you pay but gives me my Big Mac meal for free or at a discounted rate, who are you to get shitty with me? Like I said, that is not the first time that has happened to me in Sosua (as my previous posts will verify) and I am sure that it is not only me that it has happened to. Hell, I have held out a handful of money before and the girl has declined, saying that she only wanted money for a motoconcho. Maybe it is you who needs the humanity check if you think that everybody is after money.
Mr E,
Not trying to get into a "flaming" contest.
My only point was that even if you could get away with a freebie, a little generosity wouldn't have been bad.
I will accept that occasionally non-pro Dominicanas might be found partying in the Sosua bars, - (but I does anyone really believe that was the case here?).
S you saw for yourself, the girl is renting a shabby room in Sosua, she's hanging around the bar with one other girl; -hmm, is she just "getting away on on vacation"?
Did she travel to Sosua from another town because she's bored, or there are no bars at home? Is this a hobby for her?
No, I think any reasonable person will surmise that she's there to try to make some money.
If you can get laid by a German working locally, great.
I also assume she's there to party and doesn't need the cash.
Its not about "hating" (gees, grow up)
or whether I "have to pay" or not.
If I (we) can afford to travel for mongering, there's room in the budget for a little generosity.
Clearly you can afford it, and she could obviously use the money.
So why not?
I'm just saying that if the girl was good to you, you could have been good to her too, whether you "had to" or not.
Knowing the girl's situation, I would suggest (not just to you , but anyone reading this) to offer her some cash anyway,
-just offer it "para tu niña" (for your baby).
Maybe its just me, - (but I think a lot of others as well would feel the same)
when we go to a place as poverty-stricken as the DR, and have a great time with a girl that is obviously poor, -if she's shared her body with me, I can afford to share a little with her.
If you offer her some cash and she declines for reasons of her own, fine,
but I would not feel right if I at least did not offer her something.
No insults, -maybe just a different point of view.
Professor 1
12-26-07, 15:36
Maybe we need to invent the concept of Fair Trade Mongering just like we have Fair Trade coffee and other third world products.
Wearing your Fair Trade Monger badge will, of course, get you a discount from Fair Trade Providers.
Frannie, you make a good, very good, point. I agree completely that one should not pay too much. For example, one of the guys mentioned something about $70 or so for short-time company. The other extreme is bad, too. I would have presented the girl with $15 to $20. In Costa Rica, I had a girl refuse money. I said it was "for the baby," and she took it after some back and forth. Being a fair person IS NOT inconsistent with the activities that we discuss.
Intl Travelor
12-26-07, 17:47
Maybe we need to invent the concept of Fair Trade Mongering just like we have Fair Trade coffee and other third world products.
Wearing your Fair Trade Monger badge will, of course, get you a discount from Fair Trade Providers.Interesting topic. To pay or not to pay when given the option? Frankly, I do not think there is anything wrong with not paying. Myself, I always give some money, especially when they have one or more children. However, I do not think there is anything wrong if you don’t. These women, like women everywhere, are not stupid and naïve. If they want money, then they will ask for it either directly or indirectly. It does not sound to me that was the case in this situation. My only criticism with Mr E is DR is not the place where you should brag about not paying. Many of the women in DR I find to be looking for more than just money. They are looking for someone to treat them nice, respect them and show them a good time. DR is different than, for example, a professional Columbian in place like Panama or Costa Rica. Heh, if you can get it for free in a place like that from a hot professional Columbian, then I am impressed!
Please take note of all experiences in the Forum of not discussing money upfront with the girl.
Some members may disagree with me but here are my tips.
1. Mongering is strictly a business matter.
2. It never is a fixed price deal anywhere in the world.
3. Prices have to be negotiated between the buyer and seller taking into consideration of the quality of the merchandise, lenghth of the time it will be usefull and the throwaway time factor.
4. Generally speaking the girls will abide by the price agreed except for small tips.
5. Always agree on a price so that this will eliminate unpleasantary exchanges between you, the girl, the security, bystanders, nosy people, police, judge and possibly jail.
Frannie, you make a good, very good, point. I agree completely that one should not pay too much. For example, one of the guys mentioned something about $70 or so for short-time company. The other extreme is bad, too. I would have presented the girl with $15 to $20. In Costa Rica, I had a girl refuse money. I said it was "for the baby," and she took it after some back and forth. Being a fair person IS NOT inconsistent with the activities that we discuss.
Thanks. Obviously my comments about Fair Trade Mongering are a little tongue in cheek, but there is a serious point.
I have an e-mail friend whom I have never met who is an escort in London, UK. We have exchanged 100s of e-mails.
She is a popular "provider" who has a Web site, is well reviewed, and charges reasonable rates. In other words, she is running a small self-employment business in addition to her day job.
This is exactly what many of these girls in the DR are mostly NOT. They are not businesswomen. They are just poor women doing whatever they can to meet their needs. They have little concept of good business practice or what is a fair price. As far as they are concerned, the more the better, but something is better than nothing.
They don't even like to think of themselves as selling sex for money. (I am talking about the ones who are not hard core pros.)
We are the same. We would much prefer to have sex for free with waitresses or shop assistants or young single mothers than pay a real professional like my friend in London. No matter how good the "provider" free sex is valued much more highly than paid sex. Quite a paradox!
This is why novia sex in the DR is attractive to many men, including myself. Having sex without condoms with an attractive partner when the moment arises sponstaneously--day or night--is a pretty close approximation to nonpaid sex, and it is something that is easily attainable in the DR, though not in our home countries. Of course in the end it still costs you money, but you do not pay on a per sex act basis.
Somewhere a balance has to be struck. Negotiation is the answer, but it must be fair negotiation so that both sides feel they are getting what they want out of the deal, or somewhere close.
People who are critical of sex tourism--yes, there are a few!--tend to think of us exploiting poor third-world women, though one might equally argue that they are exploiting us. the ideal balance is that both we and they feel we are getting the best deal.
Me: "I had great sex with a stunningly beautiful young woman thirty years my junior for only $50. What else could I get for that money that would give me a lasting memory?"
She: "I earned $1600 pesos for less than two hours work, the man treated me nicely, and I earned as much as I could make in a week waitressing. Good deal."
Or:
"I expect everyone of my crowd to make fun
Of my proud protestations of faith in romance,
And they'll say I'm naïve as a babe to believe
Every fable I hear from a person in pants...
... but I'm in love with a wonderful guy."
[South Pacific: Lyrics to A Wonderful Guy]
Davidb3069
12-27-07, 04:55
Some girls are not really pros, or are very naive and inexperienced with gringos, and are too ashamed to ask for money for sex, but it does not mean that they don't need it.
They hope to meet a boyfriend, rather than just sell sex, because they see other girls who have foreign boyfriends who help them out financially, and maybe get them out of the DR.
Right on target. Most of them are just too ashamed to ask for money but they are there hoping to score some cash. Some only do it when they really need money badly. Some make it a career. If that non-pro does it enough, or has a friend that teaches her the ropes, she might be your future pro. The easy money is very attractive to the girls. I've only seen a few manage to get out of the trade.
David
I cant get a straight answer out of Verizon wireless as to whether their cell phones work in DR. I have a VX8700 phone and some of the Verizon reps claim it will work(roaming of course) and some say it wont.
Does anyone have any experience using their Verizon cell phone in DR? Thanks.
Davidb3069
12-27-07, 05:05
If a hooker (it was never even established that this young lady was a hooker by the way, as there are also non-pros that go to Latino's) wants to fuck me for free then that is between me and her. Just because you had to pay don't tell me that I am inhumane because I did not have to. If we are both at McDonald's and the cashier makes you pay but gives me my Big Mac meal for free or at a discounted rate, who are you to get shitty with me? Like I said, that is not the first time that has happened to me in Sosua (as my previous posts will verify) and I am sure that it is not only me that it has happened to. Hell, I have held out a handful of money before and the girl has declined, saying that she only wanted money for a motoconcho. Maybe it is you who needs the humanity check if you think that everybody is after money.
If the girl doesn't accept an offer, that's one thing. To not offer anything hoping to get a freebie is just flat out cheap (I am talking about pros or non-pros working as hookers). While not all girls expect money, many would be willing to take it. Only the ones that don't want to feel (or look like) a hooker wouldn't take $$. A gift might be a good substitute.
This is why gringos are the laughing stock of countries like DR. Most of the girls know the score too well. They just hope you don't.
There are many non-hookers (really are not one) that don't want to be seen with a gringo for fear of being thought of as a hooker.
David
Davidb3069
12-27-07, 05:06
I cant get a straight answer out of Verizon wireless as to whether their cell phones work in DR. I have a VX8700 phone and some of the Verizon reps claim it will work(roaming of course) and some say it wont.
Does anyone have any experience using their Verizon cell phone in DR? Thanks.
Not sure. You can buy inexpensive pre-paid phones in DR. In Sosua, there is a shop just a block or two from the beach.
David
Davidb3069
12-27-07, 05:13
Who knows? BBBJ is unlikely to transmit an infection to a man. Condomless anal sex is extremely likely to give you an infection, especially an e-coli urinary infection. However, you can buy antibiotics cheaply without a presription in the DR and a 5-day course of Cipro should take care of most infections.
Next time a chick has sores around her mouth because she's picked up herpes, I wouldn't recommend the BBBJ. I took one girl to the doctor in Sosua that had obvious herpes. If that mouth had wrapped itself around you and a blister broke, you'd be looking at being a new carrier yourself.
David
Davidb3069
12-27-07, 05:35
There is a part of me saying "screw it, pay the money and end this situation. " And there is another part of my mind saying "this is all a game to them, they know they don’t really want to take me to the police station, they want a little more money and they want to end it here also. " I know it is a game and want to call the chica on it but being right here is probably less important than peacefully resolving the situation. The chica is saying she wants 3000 pesos. I’m thinking that is total abuse and if we need to go to the police station, so be it. So I tell them I’m willing to go to the police station and I return to my room for shoes so I can go with them. This also communicates that I’m serious about not giving up easily.
You got damn lucky you got a nice cop. They really don't mind hauling gringos down to the station. I got arrested in Sosua with no choice. 56 hours, 2 cells, 3 judges, 1 corrupt gov't offical, 1 lawyer, at least $500, and an opportunity to state my case in front of the judge and the rest of the court later, I was released. They took my passport which got their hands slapped by the US consulate -- they let me out long enough to contact the consulate. I bailed to the airport in Santo Domingo the next morning. Never to return.
I do have to give some of the police in the Sosua station (2 blocks from the beach) credit. They let me leave my outside, mosquito infested cell when I wanted. The other inmates had to stand in their cells getting eaten alive. No toilet. There is a dirt corner in the back of the cell to do your stuff. Cement floors. I sat outfront with a couple of them at one point and chatted with them until the morning transport to the Puerta Plata court/jail. Tried to sleep in a police car that night too but the mosquitos were too bad. So I stayed up and chatted with them.
Does this sound like you made the right choice?
I knew I was in trouble when the police showed up, called me an asshole (in spanish) and I was off to hell.
When I tell you not to ruin a vacation over $1000-3000 pesos, I'm speaking from personal experience.
David
Escort King
12-27-07, 17:07
It is $100 US. If you can't walk away from it then you should not be going to the DR. There are a bunch of ways you can lose that much. And even the most experienced can be got.
Rule of thumb even the time spent arguing cost you something. Personally my sleep and lack of stress is worth more than 2000 pesos.
Hamster101
12-27-07, 23:38
David 3069,
Depending on the length of your stay you can rent a cell phone about $3-$4 a dayor you can buy a cell phone for $25 and just put in prepaid cards (thats what I do), every time I go back atleast half the numbers are still good. The Orange store where I buy is next to the Popular bank by Baileys. E G
Professor 1
12-28-07, 17:18
DR is different than, for example, a professional Columbian in place like Panama or Costa Rica. Heh, if you can get it for free in a place like that from a hot professional Columbian, then I am impressed!
I had to laugh, as I was nodding in agreement. I made the error of retaining a pro (Colombian) while doing research at the Del Rey in San Jose. I believe that she was the very first "pro" that I ever had who truly acted like a pro. Even my tax lawyer left a better impression regarding the fee and so on. :)
Professor 1
12-28-07, 17:22
I cant get a straight answer out of Verizon wireless as to whether their cell phones work in DR. I have a VX8700 phone and some of the Verizon reps claim it will work(roaming of course) and some say it wont.
Does anyone have any experience using their Verizon cell phone in DR? Thanks.
I cannot speak to Verizon, but I have an older generation Cingular (AT&T) LG model, and it worked very well. The roaming was a bit costly, but the service was clear.
I cant get a straight answer out of Verizon wireless as to whether their cell phones work in DR. I have a VX8700 phone and some of the Verizon reps claim it will work(roaming of course) and some say it wont.
Does anyone have any experience using their Verizon cell phone in DR? Thanks.
The Verizon-owned company in DR is Codetel or Claro.
If you take a Verizon phone there, I believe the local company can unlock the phone and put in a local SIM chip and program it.
When you take the phone back to the states, you have to have the procedure reversed to use it, so th ephone may be down until you can do so.
The alternative is getting a cheap DR cell for use locally.
The expensive version (if you want connectivity to home while in the DR) is to get the worldwide roaming option.
If you take your phone and have it unlocked, they will give you your original chip back. Put it someplace safe. When you get back in the states, take the chip from the DR out and put your original one back in. The phone will take a few seconds to re-register the old chips info but that's about it. If you do it while on the plane (with the power off of course) when you land, turn your phone on. It should re-register by the time you get off the plane. If you're in first class then by the time you reach the inside gate...lol.
PM me if you want more info.
-dp
tHi here guys,
Thanks you for a fantastic informative and exciting forum.
I am a guy from Denmark visiting DR for the first time next summer.
With interest, I have read a lot of exciting stuff here.
BUT. Is there someone here who can tell me, where to find the BIGGEST tits in the DR cities of Santo Domingo, Boca Chica, Sosua and Santiago.
And I am not asking for ok big tits, but MEGA tits. The biggest ones possible :-)
Please help me fellows. And thanks.
Mister BoobloverHomeskillet,
I can appreciate your affection for the mammarily gifted provider. I too weep before the presence of a nice set of "D"s. However, it has been my experience that DR women (in general) are a bit on the small chested side. As for trying to classify a particular locale for tits. I don't know if that would be possible. I don't think big tits are genetic (I could be wrong), therefore, it would just be the luck of the draw. Otherwise, in most countries, the girls with the big tits have fake tits. No problem for me, just a matter of what you prefer for that day. You know you can find big tittied Colombianas in Medellin and Cali because they are huge into plastic surgery there. As for DR, I would suspect that if you focus on going to the discos with large numbers of working girls, that would probably be your best bet, as the girls will surely have realized that huge tits are both a rarity and an asset, and therefore use them to their advantage. Of course, one could hypothesize that Santo Domingo would be a good choice as the capital, since, the more well off people probably live there as well as more working girls from other countries (besides Haiti). I actually found an all naturall D-DD girl at BB's on my last trip who was gorgeous and had a great body otherwise as well, I guess its all the luck of the draw. I also found one at Cristal's night club in Puerto Plata. Again, drop dead gorgeous and great body with Ds easily. If you're like me, I'm sure this post is pretty useless to you, since its pretty much all opinion. But, well, I'm contributing to the discussion Happy hunting!
Rodeo
Twice Divorced
12-29-07, 09:04
I cant get a straight answer out of Verizon wireless as to whether their cell phones work in DR. I have a VX8700 phone and some of the Verizon reps claim it will work(roaming of course) and some say it wont.
Does anyone have any experience using their Verizon cell phone in DR? Thanks.Jedi Earth, yes, a US based, Verizon phone does work in the DR. Very expensive to make and receive calls, though. Although I have a DR phone, both home and cell, I carry my US phone with me in the event some one needs to contact me in an emergency.
Having said that, I would take the suggestions that have been made here. Much cheaper.
Marc Anthony
12-29-07, 14:12
It's not my thing so I never paid much attention but I remember one chica who was on Rico's World website with huge natural tits - and a decent body otherwise - who I actually saw in Sosua a few years ago. Other members may recall the chica. I doubt they got any smaller since then.
tHi here guys,
Thanks you for a fantastic informative and exciting forum.
I am a guy from Denmark visiting DR for the first time next summer.
With interest, I have read a lot of exciting stuff here.
BUT. Is there someone here who can tell me, where to find the BIGGEST tits in the DR cities of Santo Domingo, Boca Chica, Sosua and Santiago.
And I am not asking for ok big tits, but MEGA tits. The biggest ones possible :-)
Please help me fellows. And thanks.
Mister Booblover
Mr B,
As our colleague Trippstadt pointed out, there are well-endowed girls to be had in the DR, - but like anywhere the distribution is normal. -like where are the biggest US chests, NY, LA, Chicago, Miami, -answer is: all of the above.
When you go to a place like BB or an establishment elsewhere, make your preference known, and they can find you such a girl. For example, Charo at BB could make a few phonecalls for you.
Otherwise, its mostly chance, although well-endowed girls can often be found in such places, because they know they can profit from their "endowments."
Currently at Blackbeards and I can tell you that you will not be disappointed. The selection is varied and there is enough of any shape to keep you happy.
On the other hand, my last two mongering trips were to the Philippines, so my idea of large-breasted may be a little skewed. LOL!
There is no region in which the girls have tremendous boobs. Genetically speaking ,DR girls are so mixed that it literally varies on a case by case basis.I have noticd that the girls who have more African blood tend to have larger breast but even that is not a good criteria to use. I have long since put it in my mind that I should be prepared to except a small chest and have actually come to prefer it. The new "trick" for women eveywhere is the push up bra.Fellas need know that these miracle bras can make saggy "I breast fed all three of my kids" tits, look like "I just fully matured at 19 and have a wonderful set of tits" tits. Many if not most of the girls are wearing them. Having said that. Anybody who has the money can find a big tit girl in DR and use her services. Its really that simple. Wouldnt most of us agree?
But I can't find what I'm looking for.
Here's what I seem to know: A short-time thing should be around 1,500-2,000 pesos. That's from RTFF.
Hotel Europa is close to Passion. Another good hotel could be New Garden and maybe Casa Cayena.
What I don't know is what to expect to be charged at Passions. Or how far New Garden or Cayena are from Passion.
Also, any ideas for gyms in Sosua would be much appreciated.
I speak pretty good Spanish but I haven't been to Sosua since 1993, and those were in pre-mongering days. I'm a late 30s white boy. Just looking to relax. Know how to handle myself in crazy situations but don't go looking for them.
Another thing: Sometimes i get adventurous and try to find a hotel once I'm on the ground.
Would that be mad-crazy to do in Sosua?
Also, would those Villa Brigitte beachfront vacation homes be very far from town?
Any limitations on # of Chicas you bring in? Residential max is one. Also how is the security at New Garden? I have been to Sousa before and you don't want just any one walking around the hotel.
Huge Hefner
12-30-07, 07:38
Vaquero,
Passions has a Pussy Menu, It tells you exactly what they charge for what.
But I can't find what I'm looking for.
Here's what I seem to know: A short-time thing should be around 1,500-2,000 pesos. That's from RTFF.
Hotel Europa is close to Passion. Another good hotel could be New Garden and maybe Casa Cayena.
What I don't know is what to expect to be charged at Passions. Or how far New Garden or Cayena are from Passion.
Also, any ideas for gyms in Sosua would be much appreciated.
I speak pretty good Spanish but I haven't been to Sosua since 1993, and those were in pre-mongering days. I'm a late 30s white boy. Just looking to relax. Know how to handle myself in crazy situations but don't go looking for them.
Sosua is a small town, everything is within walking distance. From the New Gardden Hotel to Passion it will take you round about 5 minutes depending on far fast you walk.
A massage + happy ending is 1000 pesos (30 bucks), some of the girls even do cim, 1 hour full service with a girl is 2500 pesos.
A beer is 100 pesos.
There is a gym close to the Whitehorse internet cafe, sorry i can not recall the name of that street, anyhow just ask at the hotel where you are going to stay where to find a gym(s).
Mr Enternational
12-30-07, 16:42
But I can't find what I'm looking for.
Also, any ideas for gyms in Sosua would be much appreciated.
Get a big girl and practice putting her legs in the air.
Mr Enternational
12-30-07, 17:14
I cant get a straight answer out of Verizon wireless as to whether their cell phones work in DR. I have a VX8700 phone and some of the Verizon reps claim it will work(roaming of course) and some say it wont.
Does anyone have any experience using their Verizon cell phone in DR? Thanks.
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Look for a chica named Reynaldi. They are big and natural. Very friendly and fun chica. Usually can be found in Classicos.
What is the name of the all incl. hotel at the end of the street (on the beech) close to La Roca restaurant .
John Jr
i appreciate the insight.
the idea of lifting a big girl's legs in the air may actually be good exercise.
for a more aerobic exercise, try to get friction on a girl with an unusually loose woman. you get up to humming bird speeds doing that. so far, my only experiences like that have been with american broads.
looks like i may settle for casa cayena.
Davidb3069
12-31-07, 07:09
David 3069,
Depending on the length of your stay you can rent a cell phone about $3-$4 a dayor you can buy a cell phone for $25 and just put in prepaid cards (thats what I do), every time I go back atleast half the numbers are still good. The Orange store where I buy is next to the Popular bank by Baileys. E G
Yup. I bought one at the Orange store when I was there. Worked fine.
Davidb3069
12-31-07, 07:12
Another thing: Sometimes i get adventurous and try to find a hotel once I'm on the ground.
Would that be mad-crazy to do in Sosua?
Also, would those Villa Brigitte beachfront vacation homes be very far from town?
Bring a list of half a dozen names of places you've read about with their approx. addresses in Sosua. Then when you land go through the list from the most favorable to the least. I can't think of any time when all the rooms would be full in Sosua. Except maybe over Christmas-New Years. Even then, I couldn't see it happening.
What is the name of the all incl. hotel at the end of the street (on the beech) close to La Roca restaurant .
John Jr
This hotel is called Sosua Bay Hotel
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Friends tell me that crime has increased! I'm packin! See my Post on Copa. I will be in the Sosua / Cabaret area. I stayed 1 night in Juan Dolio at Hotel Romeo+Julieta = Avoid! There ain't no chicas there!
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Friends tell me that crime has increased! I'm packin! See my Post on Copa. I will be in the Sosua / Cabaret area. I stayed 1 night in Juan Dolio at Hotel Romeo+Julieta = Avoid! There ain't no chicas there!
During my last time in Sosua in march 2007 i had no problem what so ever, i did walk around alone at night, took motochoncos, however i would not recommend walking alone at night in Los Charamicos.
Crime is increasing in the D.R. due to not enough job/career opportunities, alot of cheap labor from Haiti displacing dominican labor, deportes arriving every week from the US, in 2007 the US alone deported 4500 dominicans (www.dominicantoday.com) click on local to read the article, a fucked up eduction system and a corrupt police force.
Davidb3069
01-01-08, 21:18
During my last time in Sosua in march 2007 i had no problem what so ever, i did walk around alone at night, took motochoncos, however i would not recommend walking alone at night in Los Charamicos.
Crime is increasing in the D.R. due to not enough job/career opportunities, alot of cheap labor from Haiti displacing dominican labor, deportes arriving every week from the US, in 2007 the US alone deported 4500 dominicans (www.dominicantoday.com) click on local to read the article, a fucked up eduction system and a corrupt police force.
It's nice to see they ejected the DR criminals from the US to the DR.
Corrupt police force is an understatement. They are no more than gun-toting criminals a lot of the time. I remember my first trip when I was asked for a tip by the customs offical. He made it sound like I wouldn't get through without paying it. I just blew him off.
Canadian Cowboy
01-01-08, 21:27
From the new garden whats the best pharmacy for Enhancers. I read theres a another version done there aswell. Thank you guys for all the help.
CC
My first night in Sosua--I saw at least 25 hot chicas. Did 2 Hiatians, a 6'2'' model type (Bold Focker did her last April) and a 5'1'' spinner. Both great experiences for $48 each plus the spinner was TLN. Chica drinks @ $3.
Member #4643
01-01-08, 23:31
The last time I was in Sosua, I was offered a massage in a little store from in the middle of town. It was about 10 am, and I was walking around looking for expresso when I ran into a group of young women who hussled me for a massage. Once behind the door, I requested, and received, a rather good BBBJ instead of the massage. I really had no interest in a massage, but I love a good early morning blow job.
Will all the massage girls in Sosua give a BBBJ if you ask, or are some of them legitimately for massage? And, is FS available? What about Passions?
The board seems to be a little contradictory on this place.
Many thanks
No max at the New Garden. There is a person providing security at night.
Any limitations on # of Chicas you bring in? Residential max is one. Also how is the security at New Garden? I have been to Sousa before and you don't want just any one walking around the hotel.
The last time I was in Sosua, I was offered a massage in a little store from in the middle of town. It was about 10 am, and I was walking around looking for expresso when I ran into a group of young women who hussled me for a massage. Once behind the door, I requested, and received, a rather good BBBJ instead of the massage. I really had no interest in a massage, but I love a good early morning blow job.
Will all the massage girls in Sosua give a BBBJ if you ask, or are some of them legitimately for massage? And, is FS available? What about Passions?
The board seems to be a little contradictory on this place.
Many thanksIf you want one of the best legit massages you have ever had go to M and M Massage in the plaza beside the Banco Popular, Zuni is the best, do not ask for extras, it will not happen. 600 pesos for one hour.
Passions is a great place to either just have a drink and watch the girls have fun dancing or go for a no hassle massage with BBBJ or the latest thing is a soapy, a lot of fun and worth the extra pesos. They have some great new girls there.
Bring a list of half a dozen names of places you've read about with their approx. addresses in Sosua. Then when you land go through the list from the most favorable to the least. I can't think of any time when all the rooms would be full in Sosua. Except maybe over Christmas-New Years. Even then, I couldn't see it happening.I think you can almost always get a room at The Waterfront.
You probably can find something else anytime in town once you get here but it may not meet your budget or location needs.
The last time I was in Sosua, I was offered a massage in a little store from in the middle of town. It was about 10 am, and I was walking around looking for expresso when I ran into a group of young women who hussled me for a massage. Once behind the door, I requested, and received, a rather good BBBJ instead of the massage. I really had no interest in a massage, but I love a good early morning blow job.
Will all the massage girls in Sosua give a BBBJ if you ask, or are some of them legitimately for massage? And, is FS available? What about Passions?
The board seems to be a little contradictory on this place.
Many thanks
The places that solicit you for massage in the street are pretty much all in the BBBJ business. FS may be available with the right girl, but if there is no shower available would you want to? There is an older (30's) woman called Silvia who has a little souvenir shop with a massage room at the back who will do HJ or BJ and will FS, but not at that location (that's what she told me). Then there is a hair salon called Belkis, where you can get pretty much what you want--even a haircut. There is a small hair salon that is really a masturbation/BJ setup in front of the new Banco Popular. Not very hygienic and full of flies, but if you like that...
La Passion is much better than any of these, but I don't think it is open until around lunch time. You can get it all at La Passion. Fruit juice or chica juice, you name it.
If you want something in the morning always a good idea to make arrangements the night before. Wouldn't you prefer a girl to come to your hotel room to deliver coffee, bagels and blowjob?
Some of the massage girls are legit, like Kika massage and M & M massage, but they don't usually solicit in the street. Mind you, even a legit masagista will often provide extracurricular services if she likes you, or thinks she won't be detected by the boss or someone else. I once had two girls giving me a four-handed HJ while another girl massaged my shoulders. Very nice it was too. My shoulders felt much better afterwards.
Since girls are not allowed to solicit for sex in the street, it is not at all unusual for girls you meet walking in the street to ask you if you would like a massage. This invariably means a vaginal massage.
Generally there is not much on offer in the early morning due to the fact that the chicas have hangovers at that time and are in their beds, then later shopping and attending hair salons and nail parlors to make themselves look beautiful for you.
Hence it is better to make appointments ahead of time.
Professor 1
01-02-08, 05:47
The last time I was in Sosua, I was offered a massage in a little store from in the middle of town. It was about 10 am,
I got an offer at Costambar Beach by a woman, and her "husband" claimed that she was quite good at it. As I had just eaten, no pun intended, I thanked them profusely in Spanish, and declined. Being the nice professor that I am, I did show my respect and take her number, as she was out of business cards.
Arrived Friday for a 2 month vacation. Posted at ArgentinaPrivate.com
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Friends tell me that crime has increased! I'm packin! See my Post on Copa. I will be in the Sosua / Cabaret area. I stayed 1 night in Juan Dolio at Hotel Romeo+Julieta = Avoid! There ain't no chicas there!Welcome back chilly. Lets meet up again as you always seem to have beautiful women with you. I'm doing well but most nights I'm in cabarete or pop. Got real tired of sosua the last few months or so. I'm the guy who followed you out to your place in ecuentro on the moto. Send me a message or something. Not sure if you still have my phone number and don't want to post it here but lets plan an adventure. Talk to you soon brother.
The places that solicit you for massage in the street are pretty much all in the BBBJ business. FS may be available with the right girl, but if there is no shower available would you want to? There is an older (30's) woman called Silvia who has a little souvenir shop with a massage room at the back who will do HJ or BJ and will FS, but not at that location (that's what she told me). Then there is a hair salon called Belkis, where you can get pretty much what you want--even a haircut. There is a small hair salon that is really a masturbation/BJ setup in front of the new Banco Popular. Not very hygienic and full of flies, but if you like that...
La Passion is much better than any of these, but I don't think it is open until around lunch time. You can get it all at La Passion. Fruit juice or chica juice, you name it.
If you want something in the morning always a good idea to make arrangements the night before. Wouldn't you prefer a girl to come to your hotel room to deliver coffee, bagels and blowjob?
Some of the massage girls are legit, like Kika massage and M & M massage, but they don't usually solicit in the street. Mind you, even a legit masagista will often provide extracurricular services if she likes you, or thinks she won't be detected by the boss or someone else. I once had two girls giving me a four-handed HJ while another girl massaged my shoulders. Very nice it was too. My shoulders felt much better afterwards.
Since girls are not allowed to solicit for sex in the street, it is not at all unusual for girls you meet walking in the street to ask you if you would like a massage. This invariably means a vaginal massage.
Generally there is not much on offer in the early morning due to the fact that the chicas have hangovers at that time and are in their beds, then later shopping and attending hair salons and nail parlors to make themselves look beautiful for you.
Hence it is better to make appointments ahead of time.Can recommend Belkis, got FS for 600 the other day.
Sylvias maasage and giftshop is gone now
well, 13 hours of a red eye flight and into puerto plata somebody is standing there with my name on a card to take me to sosua. he whisks me off to the hotel and i am just beat. stores are closing and i need atm cash for dinner and girls. i need a cap because when in the sun hits it will burn you in nothing flat. i need a phone else the chicas i want to repeat with will be no more. my driver came through on all counts.
the condo rental agent wants all money up front which drains me until can walk out to the bank a second time. las terrazas is rumored to be the best condo complex in sosua. after seeing it i was very satisfied. the only downside is, no internet connection and no wireless signals to be found anywhere. oh well, you cant have it all. lt is very quite in the evening, ear plugs not needed as suggested by others staying in other places.
i figure out where all the actions is going to be, and survey the dinner scene. next to a steak house there is a placing boasting good sea food. i order the sea food platter which contains a little of everything. two very young lobsters, camaron, lightly fried filet of white fish, clam. i was very pleased and all for about 35 dollars which is huge money for the dominican. back to my room, hide my valuables, get everything ready, get used to the new cell phone, stash my money, etc.
i hit the bars and classicos is the place with the most action going on. i know now what the pretty girls in america feel like in the bar scene with guys constantly hitting on them non-stop. each girl gives me her best moves and it is an art turning them down and making them feel good about it at the same time. i find an opening at the bar to limit them exposure to me and come across another american i can chatter with. i will call him tman. tm and his girl are already out of talk. anyway, we turn into buddies the following days along with another guy i met online i will call dman.
worthy of noting at classicos was a very tall bartender with tight white stretch low-rise pants. she had a body/ass to die for but if she would only smile. i have never seen a better body in tight cloths. over 6 ft tall. only thing is, i never saw her smile the 4 days i was there. stone faced!!!
anyway, it took me awhile to survey all the girls and there were 4 noteworthy ones. the one i decided to choose, named rosi, light skinned mulata about 19-20yo. after i got her back to the room it came apparent she has not been doing this for too long. she shut me down with much of the kissing, did not want to touch junior with out a condom, etc. she was cute but hey, i learned quickly she was not going to rock my world. this was not a waste though because i used her to calibrate what i needed to watch for when surveying these girls. that is, what to look for when choosing a girl.
second night - i am off to black beards to see the bikini contest. dm talked me into this and i guess i wanted to experience it anyway. so i did some shopping in the morning, lunch, people watched, and soon enough it was time to take the 40 min taxi. there i met my online buddy, dman while the contest was finishing up the end of the first round. out of the about 30 girls there i had the hots for three of them. not long after the contest, two of them left so i did not session with anyone there.
in comparison, the quality of the girls at bb are compatible with the sosua bar girls in the distribution of hotness. the 3 i liked were about 9 face, 9 body but there was a big point drop off after the top three girls. anyway, i will compare bb’s, the bar scene in sosua and the oxygen resort in another thread sometime soon.
i arrived back in sosua about midnight and immediately hit classicos again.
holy mother of god - ok, so i am standing against the wrought iron fence at classicos, the one that separates the bar from the sidewalk and am somewhat bored. the place was hopping and i was worried physically about me drinking cuba libres all day to have to belly up to the bar and wear myself down some more. this chica must have seen me because she wormed her way against the bar side of the fence to completely block my view from everything else going on. four inches from my face and on the other side of the fence she starts the small talk. she was pretty good at throwing in the dirty tongue action during her sales pitch. by far she was the prettiest in there. frontal tooth was chipped ever so slightly and when she smiled her eyes sparkled adding to her cuteness. i delayed committing until i could get a look at the body and learned that was awesome too. i tend to turn away from the chicas that attract too much attention with the bedonka-donk and she was so perfectly slim.
here name is/was rosa, 5’8 with heels, soft black hair to her sholder blades and my guess is 22yo. she kept telling me what a good a time we were going to have once we got back to the room. we both showered and during this time she kept dancing, leaning against the wall with her hands, looking back at me with the sparking eyes while rolling and thrusting her hips. i hail to the brazilian gods for those moves. she was using strip club moves on me and had me throbbing even before i hit the shower. drying off, she kept up her dance, biting my chest and going lower and lower for another 2-3 seconds of bj teasing. she was dirty talking the whole way. i just love that. dammit, pay attention girls… there are things to be learned here.
six steps to the side and she forces me to the bed. this girl is working me fast with the bj and i had troubles slowing her down. i did give her mild instruction and she followed it nicely. she could not go completely deep when requested, but to make up for it, the eyes sparkled and the tongue combined to prove to me she intended to be nasty about this. scale of 1-10 she was about an 8 in the bj department. i get a condom out and we start to sex it up.
ooh my god this chick loved to screw. if i pound hard she barks out that she wants it even harder! i did my best for the brotherhood until her requests stopped. i think we were both worried about the bed breaking, ha ha ha. my energy started to fall after about 20-30 seconds of the hardest pounding i could, then she detected that i started to sandbag to re-coup my energy and power. when she detected this she started rocking her hips n booty so none of the tempo was not lost. i purposely stopped and froze all my motion to see what she would do and then she completely takes over. she starts working her hips at top speed using that brazilian hip rocking thrust. oh my gawd… this girl can really fuk !!! 4-5 positions of the same high energy level and man…i was really dumbfounded, this girl can really fuk !!! i took the initiative to introduce a finger to the action and feed her her own pussy juice while i fuked her and she wants to know what took me so long to do that!!! what an actress as i just went back and forth with my finger feeding her. i just don’t know what else to say… man this girl can really fuk. if you want to know how she rates as a good fuck well she just broke the scale. anyway, i get her contact number for future recreational activities.
all this for $1kdom which is $33. i was so happy that i gave her 400pesos more. this was a down and dirty porn star experience with rosa. the only rough part was when she starts to grovel about wanting taxi money even after i paid much more than she wanted, but ok. did i say this girl can really fuk?
third night- i found where passions was. i was not sure i wanted to stay as it looked to be one of those chat-with-the-girl bars where every girl had some major flaw. there was one lone girl there that looked pretty hot so i stuck with it. here name was ros-ie. she looked like one of those typical romanian girls you see in porn. she had jet black short stringy hair with great model legs and nicely rounded ass. she was a little light in the chest and had very light skin.
i paid the menu price, got a massage then she starts to go down on me. still not the quality of bj i am used to so the condom went on early before i leaned her over the table to have my way. after a moment she switched to one leg while resting the other knee up onto the table for about another minute. then we hop up on the table for the face to face crab position. i then turn her around for reverse cow girl so i could watch the muscles in that great little ass thrust away. then she gets on her feet and squats down for some nice long strokes and it was all over for me. later that night i see her walk into classicos. we make contact and she was mine for the night. she is ok, just needs to be driven.
fourth day - i get a call in the morning from that rosa who f-ed me crazy the other day. i get the passions girl out the door without telling her what is going on and by 9am rosa is barges in the front door. she looses no time by propping herself up against the wall with both hands like the cops are ready to frisk her and starts in with the brazilian hip thrusting dance. she never took her eyes off me. damm, she oozes with sex even with all her cloths on. i love those sparkling eyes and she never takes them off me.
we shower and do much of what we did before except this time i grabbed her by the hair from behind in the doggie position just to let her know who was in control. as things got harder and harder i test her reaction with a few slaps on the ass and she was more then receptive. i quickly have her laughing and gasping. i popped somewhat early watching her seemingly dig this.
we showered again and while drying off, she starts working me again. it was too short a time for me to get hard so she sits me up on the bathroom counter, lubes her self up with my astroglide and has me f-her with my toes. her body standing there leaned into the side bath wall was quite a sight. man, she is so sexy as she guides my toes in and out of her slippery coochie. now she has me hard again watching this so i take matters into my own hand with the astro glide. she watched me work myself and i watched her use my toes to masturbate with. this girl is incredible. she has dirty talk, fks out of control, cute as hell, and her body is lean and athletically buff. i consider her one of those lifetime memorable fuks if you are ever able to come across her.
since this is my last day i try to recuperate for the new years eve celebration in the evening. classicos was just dead. there were no head turning woman there. the closest was this girl named carmen. carmen had on a red dominatrix skirt and top. she worked most the tourists but i could not push myself to go with her. carmen has tiny eyebrow, nose and lip piercing. she looked like a dark skinned american brunette but was borderline body type for me. i like them lean and muscular, ass and legs, cute face. anyway, i took nobody from classicos that night. went home alone.
this was the end of my sosua trip. maybe i will stop here again after i hit the airport i am not sure. in the morning the oxygen resort people will be picking me up. i will post my experience in a different thread. specifically for the resorts scene.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Drank a lotta beer with some old buddies. The Santo Domingo modelo type, from last year, sought me out for only a ok session. No mas for Rosa!
Just before leaving in July, 2007, I got a great BBBJ from a street ho, Juli. I saw her again, we sessioned for 10 minutes. ,Then, I kicked her out for non-performance and gave her $9. Why do they act like this? Then, some hours drinking with buddies. I was getting discouraged. Then, WOW, in walks this #9 chica. She walks right up to me, calls me by name. Who is this fine thing? It turns out that she was the best friend of my gf of 3 years ago. We always wanted to date, now we have our chance! Both of them were #9's and were the 2 best ever pole dancers / stippers at the former Flamingo Club. She just returned after a 3 year absence. And she gives me a #9 performance. Sorry guys, she is my ''private stock'', already! Despite the crime, etc. Life is damm good here!
Please feel free, y'all, to give me pointers if I'm heading in the wrong direction:
Mid-January, I arrive in POP on a direct flight, Jet Blue. My hotel, Casa Cayena, has arranged for a cab driver holding a placard with the hotel name, to meet me at the airport. My cab fare, they tell me, ought to be between $20 and $25. (Sounds like a stiff fare to me. Room is $60 with breakfast if I pay cash.)
Already talked with the folks at the hotel, a female named Christian, about bringing guests in. She said the only requirement is that the girls leave their IDs at the desk. No charge, she says.
Had thought about staying at resorts in Cabarete. Didn't for a few reasons:
1) Though I'm doing all right with cash now, I came from modest roots, and I just can't stand too much time around the Pepsi Generation type folks I associate with resorts -- this despite the fact I have Dominican friends who swear by them. And they tell me if you go there single, the bartender will likely send a friggin' hot chick up to your room for the chance of scoring a commission.
2) I talked to a couple resorts in Cabarete and one in Sosua, and they were a definite "No! This is a family resort!" about bringing girls up to room.
3) Don't know how eager I am to eat and drink as much as possible to justify the minimum $70 extra per day for staying at a resort. Nothing worse than dealing with a hangover and an hour-long dookie.
I enjoy working out and all that. So I may book trips through Alf's in Sosua -- rafting, bicycling, all that. Reckon if I need to, I could always catch an affordable cab to Cabarete to check out Iguana Mamma's.
I speak Spanish well. Though even some Dominicans tell me Sosua is dangerous, I've walked Managua at 5 a.m. by myself. I think if I use my head and don't get blotto drunk in public, I should be OK.
If I'm making bad assumptions about resorts, feel free to recommend a cool one.
I'll try to write an entertaining report.
I will travelling to Sousa next week for a week at Casa Marina (AI), and would be grateful for an update on the following:
1. Current exchange rate, $US to DR peso. (I take it you getter better rates in town than at the airport.)
2. Current market rate for ST and TLN (overnight).
3. Best massage places.
4. Best girl-friendly hotels to rent for a day if I want an overnight.
5. ST hotels (or is Calypso the only choice).
6. Best beach bars.
7. Any chance at all in getting a guest into the Casa Marina?
8. Any recommendations for places to meet women in the town, aside from the obvious discos Classicos (sp?) and Latinos (sp?)?
Thanks!
I will travelling to Sousa next week for a week at Casa Marina (AI), and would be grateful for an update on the following:
1. Current exchange rate, $US to DR peso. (I take it you getter better rates in town than at the airport.)
2. Current market rate for ST and TLN (overnight).
3. Best massage places.
4. Best girl-friendly hotels to rent for a day if I want an overnight.
5. ST hotels (or is Calypso the only choice).
6. Best beach bars.
7. Any chance at all in getting a guest into the Casa Marina?
8. Any recommendations for places to meet women in the town, aside from the obvious discos Classicos (sp?) and Latinos (sp?)?
Thanks!
1) a dollar buys you 33,74 dominican pesos check www.oanda.com, you will get better rates in Sosua.
2) St during the day round about 1000 pesos at night slightly higer like 1200 pesos, toda la noche should be available for 1500 pesos, in case the girl is a real stunner you might pay her 2000 pesos, but nothing more than that.
3) The best massage parlor in Sosua is called La Passion. La Passion is situated at the very end of the Pedro Clisante street.
4) Due to the fact that that you already have a room at an AI resort, i think Rocky`s might be good for you, a simple room is for 22 bucks per night. Check out the Sosua hotel thread
5) I guess most of the girls will know other cabanas besides Calypso. The rates for the Calpyso are 300 pesos st and 700 pesos toda la noche.
6) At the beach you should check out the Siempre Sol bar. It`s owner Herman has been in Sosua for 10 years and he knows most of the working girls at the beach.
7) At some hotels you might get your girl in if you pay the AI rate which is round about 50 bucks per day. I have no clue whether this is possible at the Casa Marina Beach hotel. Send them an email concerning their guest policy.
8) You can meet girls all over in Sosua, during the day most of the action is at the beach; however in Sosua you can get to know girls pretty much everywhere.
What do you do in the rain? Sex your new #9 favorita! Earlier in the day, I spotted a #9+ walking down the street. She looked familar. Damm, it was the 18 year old Hiatian Hottie that Dumped in June for ''poor performace''! But, what a trophy!
We old men need that sometimes.
Hamster101
01-04-08, 21:35
Mr. Ehunter,
Talk to me, tell me you got a chance to spank some of those girls, how about some pics! Please tell me you got a chance to spank the Diabla! , Fanny, Carmen, Rosie, Alex, come on dude? Lets hear it! E. G.
Mr. Ehunter,
Talk to me, tell me you got a chance to spank some of those girls, how about some pics! Please tell me you got a chance to spank the Diabla! , Fanny, Carmen, Rosie, Alex, come on dude? Lets hear it! E. G.I specifically made efforts to hook up with both Fanny and La Diabla. No such luck. I sent you an email with more details.
Icyhoteric
01-05-08, 17:37
Hi guys,
I know that there is a new Sosua hotel section, but is just getting started. I will go and paste this and the responses back in there, but wanted the attention. I'm staying in Sosua the 19th-21st, and the New Garden is booked. To me, I would like to stay in a nicer place but prefer to be centrally located. I wouldn't mind spending to stay at Las Terrazas but it seems like it would be far to walk late at night with a chica from a club, not what I had in mind in a town I've never been to. I don't mind at all staying in the $50 range hotels. I try to read the maps but I'm having trouble. Can someone suggest a few hotels that make sense in terms of being centrally located? If anyone is in town, a Presidente I will buy.
If I can get a regular cab and go back to Terraza, then no problem, but that wasn't my impression. As of now I will check out the Europa, but it seems to get a bad rap on here.
Thanks
Icyhoteric
01-05-08, 17:41
One more thing. I arrive on the 19th of January, but I land in Santiago. I don't want to wait for a slow bus, I'm willing to pay someone to drive me, but I'm concerned about safety and I don't want to overpay the right price for a personal driver.
Does anyone know what this costs and the best way to arrange?
Thanks!
The ''best'' music possible. So many hotties! It was most difficult not to stray. ----Our friend, the SexMachine, is joining us tonight. He may give a different appraisal.
One more thing. I arrive on the 19th of January, but I land in Santiago. I don't want to wait for a slow bus, I'm willing to pay someone to drive me, but I'm concerned about safety and I don't want to overpay the right price for a personal driver.
Does anyone know what this costs and the best way to arrange?
Thanks!It cost about $90 dollars to Sosua, a friend of mine left our hometown Thursday on his business trip to NYC, so he told the wife. What he really did was fly on one Airline to JFK Airport then he jumped on American Airlines and flew to Santiago. He then jumped into a taxi and headed to Sosua. He should be back by Sunday evening if he doesn't phone home and tell wifey he got stuck in NYC in a snowstorm. Oh I forgot he use that line already. I couldn't make this trip, I already have my line laid out for our trip in Feb I think I can hold out until then. Sometimes the fast trips are the best ones.
He's called me 3 times, each time he saids " I'm having so much fun". (smile) I'm so jealous.
Partying at the discos and TLN with mi new #9 favorita! I had to push-off some agressive ho's. Meanwhile, some guy offered my favorita 10,000 pesos($300. A very high price here). Of course she declined! I pay her 1/4 of that. Chily has still ''got it going on''! Classico's excellent last night!------------SexMachine arrived last night.
Partying at the discos and TLN with mi new #9 favorita! I had to push-off some agressive ho's. Meanwhile, some guy offered my favorita 10,000 pesos($300. A very high price here). Of course she declined! I pay her 1/4 of that. Chily has still ''got it going on''! Classico's excellent last night!------------SexMachine arrived last night.
I get in on Thursday night. Any of you guys still in Sosua this weekend?
MiamiHeatLuver
01-06-08, 23:52
Partying at the discos and TLN with mi new #9 favorita! I had to push-off some agressive ho's. Meanwhile, some guy offered my favorita 10,000 pesos($300. A very high price here). Of course she declined! I pay her 1/4 of that. Chily has still ''got it going on''! Classico's excellent last night!------------SexMachine arrived last night.
What f-ing idiot offers any Hoe in Sosewer 10,000? That is the most absurd thing I have seen in the Sosewer thread in a long long time. Has to have been a BRIT beciase the Germans wouldn't pay that much. And I hope no "seasoned" american monger would do the same. That WOULD be a good WEEKLY rate though! 24/7. Seasoned mongers HELP out your fellow GRINGO wingmen and mongers. Ive been going to the DR since 2001 and in Sept bitches had the gaule to ask me for 3000 tln.. Usually get them down to 1500-2000 or they get their walking papers.. GUYS stick to your guns..
Drank a lotta beer with some old buddies. The Santo Domingo modelo type, from last year, sought me out for only a ok session. No mas for Rosa!Was rosa skinney with a nice firm butt and firm nice breasts? Red colored short hair. And going back to SD to school? Damm could be my gf! I thought dr girls never lie. Dios mio. Lazy = mucho $$ hatian girls. There are some real jems.
Are you going to be in Sosua for Superbowl ? What is the best place to catch the game ?
John Jr
Escort King
01-07-08, 04:40
Are you going to be in Sosua for Superbowl ? What is the best place to catch the game ?
John JrThe Shark Bar will be happening. See Lou the owner. A great guy.
On Europa's website the rate is 40$ and i was confirmed 55$ via. email . What is the rate for a 14 day stay ?
What would be a good alternative close by (i want to be in the action) .
John Jr
One more thing. I arrive on the 19th of January, but I land in Santiago. I don't want to wait for a slow bus, I'm willing to pay someone to drive me, but I'm concerned about safety and I don't want to overpay the right price for a personal driver.
Does anyone know what this costs and the best way to arrange?
Thanks!
A taxi from Santiago to Sosua is about $80 us one way.
There are numerous taxis at the airport.
On Europa's website the rate is 40$ and i was confirmed 55$ via. email . What is the rate for a 14 day stay ?
What would be a good alternative close by (i want to be in the action) .
John Jr
The New Garden Hotel for about the same price.
I'ts on Dr Rosen.
Termas Time
01-07-08, 06:38
Hi all,
My brother and I are trying to plan his best friend's bachelor party. None of us have been to the DR, but I have personally have been to Brazil, Colombia, and Panama multiple times (my brother joined me in Rio last year). We are trying to do a 4 day weekend event for maybe 4-6 of us.
My questions are:
1. What would be more fun for DR newcomers (who may only come to the DR once) trying to do a 4-day bachelor party, staying at Blackbeard's outside of PP, or staying at one of the hotels in Sosua?
2. If Sosua, what would be the preferred hotel, New Garden or Europa?
3. What other activities (snorkelling, jetskiiing, etc....) are available in Sosua other than mongering?
Thanks to all,
Termas Time
Hi all,
My brother and I are trying to plan his best friend's bachelor party. None of us have been to the DR, but I have personally have been to Brazil, Colombia, and Panama multiple times (my brother joined me in Rio last year). We are trying to do a 4 day weekend event for maybe 4-6 of us.
My questions are:
1. What would be more fun for DR newcomers (who may only come to the DR once) trying to do a 4-day bachelor party, staying at Blackbeard's outside of PP, or staying at one of the hotels in Sosua?
2. If Sosua, what would be the preferred hotel, New Garden or Europa?
3. What other activities (snorkelling, jetskiiing, etc....) are available in Sosua other than mongering?
Thanks to all,
Termas Time
Stay in Sosua. If not you and your friends will be doin the same chicas everyday. The Europa or the New Garden are both good choices for a party. Both have a pool and are walking distance to the beach.
No jetski on Sosua beach. Try Cabarette for windsurfing and kitesurfing.
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
As you can perhaps discern from my title I didn’t have the greatest impression of the DR during my first mongering trip there. Before I launch into my detailed report I would like to thank all who assisted me with additional information during my trip. Without this board my trip would have not been possible. I intend to make this report as detailed as possible so that someone who has never been to the DR can read this report and know all they need to. So please excuse the level of detail.
Having traveled all over the world mongering I had never considered DR until I realized its proximity to the US. I have mongered in Costa Rica but I now feel it is a bit overrun with gringos. So I decided to try something different. In addition I can get to DR and still use and receive calls with my cell phone(so I thought) thus no one would know I was gone.
I only had four days in DR. I know its short but I had a determined detailed plan and knew I could accomplish what I set out to do-to nut as much as possible and to get as much video and pics as I could. This was not to be.
I arrived in Santo Domingo at 7pm. Too late for the Caribe bus to Sosua but I thought I could check out Santo Domingo for the night. I turned on my Verizon Wireless phone(you have to *228 and option 2 to update the roaming on your phone BEFORE you leave the USA or it will not work). The phone worked and showed roaming. I was very pleased. I could even get my text messages. As you deplane you need to go to the right and pay your $10 tourist card fee. The strange thing is you don’t keep the card. You then go to a line to the right(there is a line for DR nationals and one for tourist) and give the card to a guy who then directs you to the passport counter. Strange thing is I noticed that the folks in the tourist line were allowed to go to the passport counter first as the nationals had to wait. Strange.
Once exit be prepared-this is Thunderdome. In front of you is a loooong lobby surrounded on both sides by hundreds of people. The only thing that seemed to hold them all back was the crowd control barriers. I don’t know why so many people were there for one flight(perhaps their was a few coming in as well) but it is intimidating. They are all staring at you. And it is so damn loud. Its like once you leave the passport area it is a different world.
One thing I immediately noticed of course were the women. Built like brickhouses. Ass, breasts, eyes. Wow. No silicone here guys. All flesh. I was already hoping for the best.
Now I needed to exchange money. The bank was still open upstairs. To get to the bank exit the doors, then go immediately to your right and back into the terminal. Then go up the escalator and make a right. Go about 10 feet and there is a bank there. It looks more like a regular money exchange but it is a bank. I got $50 dollars in small bills(200 pesos and smaller). Guys do not omit getting small bills. Anything over 500 pesos in this country will get you a “no change” response. You will need this change so get it asap!
I then went outside and was surprised that I wasn’t attacked by touts, cab drivers and shoeshine boys as many have described before. I guess because I am black they assumed I was Dominican(which I found out many did-and this didn’t turn out to be an advantage at all). I then was finally approached by a cab driver and we got into his dilapidated cabs. After taking taxis in China and Costa Rica I was surprised to see they allowed taxis to be in such insafe condition. In fact every single cab in this city, with the exception of the cabs that pick up folks at Juragua, would never be allowed to be driven in the US. As we drove to the hotel I noticed we were constantly dodging road debris, witnesseing some of the most unsafe driving I have ever seen and even seeing cars with no headlights at night! I mean guys I was in the back seat and put my seat belt on! Furthermore this is the darkest damn place I have ever been. Hardly any if none at all streetlights. Now don’t get me wrong I know people in the US drive bad but guys this was down right dangerous. When he finally got me to the hotel I was more than glad to get out of the car! The cab ride was $45 USD.
I had a reservation at Hotel Danae. Cute little hole in the wall place. http://www.hoteldanae.com/index.html
I went to check in and they told me they had overbooked and they were sorry! Now after all of that traveling the last thing you want to hear in a country you know nothing about is that they were overbooked. Luckily for me I knew of Juragua and Mercure from this board and knew I could probably get in a room in one of them if push came to shove. But the guys there were very cool. They apologized up and down and say they would find me a room at another hotel. One of the two guys in the lobby spoke very good English and started calling around. A few doors down was Hotel Residencia http://www.hotelresidencia.com/. They had a room available and the guys at Hotel Danae walked me there and even carried my bags for me. Cool guys. To me it seemed not as nice as Danae. Don’t believe the photo on the website. The rooms aren’t that nice. Atleast the one I had wasn’t. Very very Spartan. Fan was so wobbily I turned it off for fear of decapitation. The a/c blew cold yet moldy air. Whenever I travel I always take a Glade candle for just these types of ocassions(along with a pocket sized Lysol). I paid $40 US for the room. I unpacked a little as I knew I was getting on the Caribe Bus for Sosua at 6am.
Now I know some of you have walked to Juragua from the Hotel Residencia area. I wouldn’t advise doing it at night. Its too damn dark and you can easily get lost as far as I am concerned. I even stopped down at Danae to ask the guys there was it ok to walk and they said absolutely not! A cab ride anyplace in the DR is only 200 pesos max. But believe me EVERY cab driver will try and charge you more. In fact one the biggest dislikes I have about DR is the fact they EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE is trying to overcharge or make money off of you. Huge turnoff.
Anyhow the taxi took my to Juragua and I was impressed. It seemed to atleast be a US 4 star class hotel. Well dressed bellman, lovely lobby. I went inside and immediately went to the casino. I was expecting something Vegas style but it was much smaller. More to my interest was seeking the chicas that supposedly lurk inside. I only saw one or two and they were 4’s or 5’s. I was very disappointed and not impressed at all. I walk over to the desk to get their business card and to inquire if they had rooms available as my last night would be spent in Santo Domingo. They had rooms available and I left Juaragua and walked down the street to Pasteur Street. I then started to walk down it as I knew where it intersected with Avenida Independencia there were SW’s. I’ve never been a high class pro guy-I like them gritty as they tend to do more for less. As I was walking down Pasteur two guys approached me asking did I want a massage. This was a bit disconcerting at first as Pasteur is a DAMN DARK STREET. I mean I went into fighting mode as they approached me because I didn’t know what was going on. As I got the Avenida Independencia I saw a group of maybe 5 girls. They immediately starting trying to coax me over and calling me “Amor” etc. None of them were above a 7. I continued to walk further down Independencia until I got to the back entrance of Juragua. I was dead tired and considered this a scouting mission so I hailed a cab and went back to the hotel for the night. I took a shower and was ready to head to Sosua in the morning.
I got to the Caribe Bus tour stop at 5:30 am to get on the 6am bus to Sosua(see pic). http://www.caribetours.com.do/. When I got there it wasn’t a soul around but soon it filled up. I paid I think $10 US for the nearly 5 hour bus ride. The buses were ok quality. Clean, a/c(a little too cold) nice seats. I popped the I-pod in my ears and enjoyed the ride. I thought it would be a nice way to see the country as I headed to sex paradise.
Guys this is a very impoverished country. I havnt seen poverty like this since the Phillipines. Some towns people were living in cinder block houses with no doors. Clearly they didn’t have any bathroom facilities or running water. There is a presidential election there soon-I hope the new President can improve conditions for some of these folks.
Anyhow I finally arrived at Sosua. You are let out on the side of the road next to a small wall and a parking lot. Across the street is the Caribe bus tour office where you will buy your return ticket when you leave. Taxi drivers immediately approached and I got on my way to the hotel.
Hotel Europa http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/english/start.html is at the far end of town. Frankly I wasn’t impressed with it at all. I paid $55 dollars US a night. I believe the hotel is German run. I guess you cant ask for too much for a hotel that allows you to enjoy your sex hobby so I took it with a grain of salt. I attached a photo of my room. Large, airy, two beds, stove etc. Smelled a little though. Thank God for Glade candles. I’ve attached a pic of the room. Good porn channel (see pic).
I showered and was ready to hit the streets. It was about 12pm.
Directly across from Europa is Dominoes bar(see pic). There is another bar next to it. These are essentially open air bars. Nothing impressive about them at all. There were a few working ladies sitting around but nothing worth spending money on. I continued to just walk around. There are motos-which are essentially old, rickety mopeds-everywhere. In fact there are too many of them. The air in Sosua is so bad because these old mopeds and their 2 stroke engines spew exhaust everywhere. And every block one of them were screaming to you “moto, moto”. I took a few while I was in Sosua but they really aren’t needed. A moto is 20 pesos and not a peso more.
I eventually found my way to the other end of town(just follow Pedro Clisante until it ends) and it seemed much nicer than the Europa side of town. Very nice hotel on the beach, nice little places to eat,families etc. There are Internet cafes and stores everywhere. On my way I stopped to find Rockys(see photo). I don’t know what the fuss is about. Its an open air restaurant. Much to my dislike they didn’t have ANYTHING available on the menu I asked for. Hell guys they didn’t even have any cheese for a cheeseburger. I left never to return. A much better choice is a place nearby called Baileys. All of the motos know where it is. Open air, little thatch roof, large, cute bartenders and good food. I ate there during my entire stay in Sosua.
I walked down to the beach. The beach is lined with little stores and restaurants. As I walked down a cute girl with big knockers enticed me to eat at her restaurant. I declined but she convinced me to atleast buy some water.(see pic of her) This stop turned out to be a good one. I wont use her name but she turned out to be a great discovery. My experience with her, as I will share, is something all of you guys can have in Sosua that is non pro. These women here all have the same story-one or two kids, man abandoned them, from Santiago or Santo Domingo and working for pennies. She and I sat at her little restaurant and talked for about 2 hours(I speak fluent Spanish). I asked her to dinner at Baileys that night and of course she accepted. It was clear however she wasn’t a ho of any type. Though I knew she would probably give it up easily. I like to have a nice girl around for a GFE when I am mongering overseas. Usually I use the Internet to hook up before I go someplace but that isn’t necessary in Sosua. Hell during my only 2days there I met three non pros so easily I couldn’t believe it. At first they thought I was Dominican so what I would is take out my cell phone and start talking in English as though I was talking to someone. As soon as they heard me speaking English they immediately became interested. One girl in particular I really like but my “Beach Girl” was attached to me at the hip and I never got around to see her again. I’ve got her e-mail though.
I expected to literally see hoes walking around everywhere in Sosua. This isn’t the case. Sosua is essentially full of German, Dutch and Canadian mongers. Very few Americans did I come across. Someone said there was lots of black Americans but I hardly saw any. As some told me, the action doesn’t start until 10 or 11pm. That’s when they come out. And trust me don’t waste your time on those 4 bars near Europa like Dominoes during the day time . I spent hours there and saw very very little. I eventually settled for a cute light skinned Dominicana who initially insisted on $60. I could only get her down to $45. Guys in not one instance did I get a girl to go down to the 500 or 1000 pesos many of you say you have gotten. I got a CBJ from her and sent her on her way. Sadly this was to the be only sex of the whole trip.
Had a nice dinner with my Beach girl that night at Baileys. Went to bed tired and frustrated.
The next morning I sought out Passions(see picture). Exit the main entrance to Europa and go left. Walk about 5-10 minutes and you will be there. Be careful though-the sidewalks in Sosua look like they just got cluster bombed!
In my opinion Passions turned me off. The girls are in these orange and black outfits. Sort of like Hooters. Too much makeup. I don’t know guys-I looked around for a bit and then left. Maybe I should have stuck around a little longer.
I didn’t find much to do in Sosua during the day. There is little to no girl action. I’m not a beach guy at all. So I was bored out of my mind. However my beach girl was off for the day and a cab driver that works in front of Europa offered to take us to a nice secluded beach that was 15 minutes away. He drives the green minivan in the Dominoes pic. My beach girl provided a total GFE on the way. Holding hands, hugging etc. Sweet girl. I wished she was just a bit thinner but she had some huge tits guys. So I guess it made up for it. I guess I lost track of time in this whole GFE thing when I noticed we had been driving more than 15 minutes. I asked the driver what was up and he said it was further. Guys it took a damn hour to get to this beach! I was a bit upset and I was about to get more upset. I asked him how much this was going to cost me and he said $120 USD round trip. I had a goddamn fit. This is typical of what I experienced in the DR….everyone is trying to rip you off. My Beach girl calmed me down and we went to sit at a beautiful spot that looked like Hawaii. We just sat there and talked though I was incensed with this driver. DO NOT USE THIS GUY. Remember he is in front of Europa and drives the green minivan.
I didn’t have enough cash to pay this clown so I went to an ATM. My cards didn’t work! I went to a total of 3 atms and none of my cards worked! Guys I didn’t know what was going on so I went into a bank to get money. They sent me to another bank and then to another. I finally found a bank that could give me money. So beware…your cards may not work in the ATM’s. I called my banks and everything before I left the country so I know it wasn’t that. I got a little scared for a while thinking I was screwed as I had only about $40 in my pocket.
Then I discovered my phone wouldn’t make outgoing calls. I could only receive calls and send/receive text messages. I called Verizon incensed but they said they couldn’t guarantee the phone would always work. One thing too guys-when you call the US with your US cell it will come up unavailable. You may get a question about this if your trip is unknown to a significant other. Just a tip. Text messages are the same way sending and receiving. Finally when I got back to Santo Domingo I was able to make outgoing calls again.
As we were driving back to Europa my Beach Girl was pouring it on. French kissing, grabbing my cock. I knew she was going to give it up. I feel bad as I kept making promises to this girl I knew I couldn’t keep…to send her money etc. I guess it was just the fog of the experience. I did Western Union her $100 US today though. She was worth it.
Anyhow we got to the hotel and she seemed so impressed with the room. To me the room as a 2 star at best but she loved the king sized bed. She got in fully dressed and fell to sleep. Sweet girl. When she woke up she started grabbing on my cock again and it was clear she wanted it. Now this is what I came to Sosua for. But it was not to be.
She went into the bathroom to clean up and when she came out she opened the bathroom door and the smell of a dump filled the room. I mean guys the smell was so damn bad I had to open the windows and doors. It was the most sickening smell I have ever smelled. I mean I was thinking what the hell had this girl eaten. She then tried to climb all over me and undress and guys I just couldn’t get in the mood. Between the smell and knowing she hadn’t washer her ass I wasn’t going to whip out my cock. It was the biggest turn off. Anyhow at that point I wanted her to go but she stayed for a while. She kept telling me to stay out of the discotheques and the puntas. She also wanted me to stay in the hotel room until she came back the next morning! I know Latinas are like this so I just went along. She didn’t know I was leaving the next day and I didn’t tell her because I didn’t want a big dramatic scene.
Later than night it rained dogs and cats. And guess what? The electricity went out in the whole damn town! Europa has a generator but it would turn off occasionally. The damn room flooded as well. A/c would not run while the generator was powering the hotel. Damn. I left Europa and walked down dark ass hell Pedro Clisante until I saw the bright lights of a disco on the right side. I walked in and sat down. And then it happened. Over a period of a hour I saw dozens and dozens of hoes entering. So this is where the good ones are. Goddamn gorgeous women. Wow. Really dark. Really light. Big boobs big butts. Paradise. I sat and took all of this in. A cute little Jada Pinkett looking thing and her dark skinned side kick sat down and offered both of themselves for $90. I should have accepted but I declined. I never do two at a time. You cant watch them. But these two were really aggressive. After it was clear I didn’t want to partake they just sat down and talked to me. It was fun. I spent hours talking to them. I should have screwed them in the end but I was so damn tired. I knew I was getting back on the bus for Santo Domingo in the morning. Two things had become evident to me during this trip-fly into Puerto Plata or Santiago. Don’t waste the time on the bus. And two days isn’t enough time.
Anyhow my Beach girl was blowing up my phone(and still is). Funny thing she wouldn’t let me come to her place because she said she was ashamed of it. I believed her too. She said she had a shared bathroom and no kitchen in her place.
I got on the bus at 6:45 I think the next morning and went back to Santo Domingo. I was so disappointed. I didn’t want to stay at a budget hotel again because I just wanted a good days rest. I stayed at Jaragua and was impressed with the room and the level of service. Even the ATM in the lobby worked for me. The breakfast was good as well. I walked to the back fo Juragua to get some pics of Aurora for you guys so you would know what to look for. I didn’t go look for Doll House. I was so tired I went back to the hotel for to get some sleep and prepare for leaving back for the US first thing in the morning.
My conclusions:
1. I think the DR is overrated. Its proximity to the US I think makes it popular. Yes the women are beautiful but given the fact that none of them would accept less then $45 US was a big disappointment.
2. If you only have a weekend or so fly into Puerto Plata or Santiago. You don’t have time to spend 10 hours on a bus coming and going. Trust me on this.
3. I don’t think I would return to the DR. China, and Costa Rica have a more established straightforward mongering system. I felt like I had to look for hoes in the DR somewhat. In China you go directly to a BBS, Costa Rica has lots of cathouses and Germany even has the FKK’s.
4. I sort of considered this trip a scouting trip. Maybe if I ever go back I will be able to get a little more than one blow job.
5. Be sure to know what things should costs you. Everyone will try to rip you off.
6. Finding non pros is easy.
7. Change as much money as you can at the airport.
8. Be aware your phone may or may not work all the time.
Jedi,
I enjoyed your report as I have wanted to check out the dr. I think your report has changed my mind. Am I reading your report correct? You didn't get laid! Damm at least take a few of them at$45 a wack before you hit the road. You sound like someone who would of talked about the total price of a taxi ride before getting in the cab (hell I still do in the usa, when taking a taxi from the airport) I would of gave that guy the $40. 00 you had on you and told him to beat it. The girl with the funky ass looked like a clean girl in the photo, at the very least you should of got a BJ from her. I go to Costa Rica 4 to 5 times a year and for me its great as I know what to expect and they at least have the sence to try to make it safe for us. Are those the only photos you have? Most of the photos from the dr are from the blackbeards place and it looks lame.
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
My conclusions:
1. I think the DR is overrated. Its proximity to the US I think makes it popular. Yes the women are beautiful but given the fact that none of them would accept less then $45 US was a big disappointment.
2. If you only have a weekend or so fly into Puerto Plata or Santiago. You don’t have time to spend 10 hours on a bus coming and going. Trust me on this.
3. I don’t think I would return to the DR. China, and Costa Rica have a more established straightforward mongering system. I felt like I had to look for hoes in the DR somewhat. In China you go directly to a BBS, Costa Rica has lots of cathouses and Germany even has the FKK’s.
4. I sort of considered this trip a scouting trip. Maybe if I ever go back I will be able to get a little more than one blow job.
5. Be sure to know what things should costs you. Everyone will try to rip you off.
6. Finding non pros is easy.
7. Change as much money as you can at the airport.
8. Be aware your phone may or may not work all the time.
This is a good report. You highlight many of the problems that DR newbies will encounter.
I agree about Rocky's. The food IS good, but it is very slow coming and the ambience is nothing to write home about.
In the DR you should never take a taxi, hire someone for something, without establishing a price up front. your girl may have been in on the deal with the taxi driver in some way. Sounds like she was trying to distract you.
I always take a small number of $100 bills with me to use as emergency backup in case the ATMs are down or empty.
You CAN get laid for 500-1000 pesos, however you will not get a very attractive woman for that price. I think you can get a one-hour massage with blow job at La Passion for 1000 pesos with no haggling. I agree about the Halloween color scheme at La Passion.
The greatest attraction about the DR is that you can have sex with non-pros-- assuming that such a thing exists at all in the DR. Well, at least they are freelancers and they treat you like a lover,and you can have them for life if you wish, and they will bear your children, which certainly makes them different from pros in the US.
Once you get to know how things work in the DR and get to know some of the players, then life gets much easier. For example if you meet a girl in the disco at night, you could arrange to meet her the next afternoon.
Regarding Passions and Sosua in general, your comments are reasonable, but I thing sex always has to be seen as a 1:1 sport, in any environment each girl is an individual and you only have to find one girl with whom you have good chemistry to have a good time. The key is to find the right buttons to push to bring the best out of her.
Jedi Earth,
Wonderful report, nice telling it like it is. One either loves the DR or hates it. The DR is all you mentioned and some. I experienced the same initial shock my first few times in the DR. After time it wears off. For me I find the DR to be a lovely place to visit. A lot has to do with the fact I do not put Sosua on my priority list.
As you experienced, flying into Santo Domingo to go to Sosua is not the best choice to make. POP is the airport of choice for Sosua with STI as a backup. STI is still a good hour plus cab drive away at $80 one way.
I agree, Rockys is no biggy as well as Europa is not one of the best guest friendly hotels in Sosua. Baileys to eat and New Garden to sleep! The best English speaking bar to hang out at is Lou's Shark Bar. Everyone talks about Rockys but Lou's is the place to be.
Thanks for the heads up on Residence and Danae! I have always felt Hotel Mercure is the best choice for a first time visit to SD. Jaragua Hotel/Casino is exceptionally nice but not guest friendly unless you sign "her" in at registration time. In the past I have registered at Jaragua and told the front desk my friend will be arriving later. They ask her name to put it on file. I just make up some name off the top of my head.
Sorry things didn't go as you thought they might, too much to try to do in too little time.
BoricuaOnline
01-07-08, 22:32
Metro bus now stops in Sosúa
Despite the many protests by owners of the taxi companies and small buses (guaguas), the Metro Tours national bus company has expanded its services to cover Sosúa and Cabarete. The bus stop in Sosúa is alongside the Texaco filling station.
The bus leaves four times a day from Sosúa, via Santiago, to the capital Santo Domingo. Departure times are 8.20am, 10.20, 13.20 and 17.50pm.
A one-way ticket to Santiago costs 140 pesos, and 300 pesos to the capital. In contrast to Caribe Tours, the Metro bus does not stop along the way. The journey to Santiago takes 90 minutes, and you're in the capital in around 3.5 hours.
You don't need to travel to Charamicos to catch the bus to Santiago or Santo Domingo.
Hamster101
01-07-08, 23:01
Jedi, I really feel for you dude, I think the biggest problem was your limited time and flying in to Santo Domingo. I do have to tell you, I have flown into to both Santo Domingo & Santiago and I would not do that again for a $200 dollar ticket and a free ride to Sosua. I never really saw anything great or off the chart about Rocky's, the best food I have ever had by far is Bologna! , Baileys is good, La Roca good (ask for local menu) 1/2 price, Brittania is good, Pizza place next to Brittania, The Shark Bar best burgers and I don't how or why but Wolfgang makes the best tacos and burittos at Snitzel Paradise? , Tipo Alberto's makes great food and most all of these places are around Classico. That bar you talked about next to Europa, well there is a place right next to it called the 4 Roses and I have done well there several times early afternoon I picked up some banging little spinner named (Kenya) several times right at 4:00 pm (that is when she starts) $1000 pesos for a couple hours, really cool chic very very clean, she used to have really big Christina Agulara Moulin Rouge hair, now she has really short hair. But hey man the bottom line or the point I am trying to make is don't put the D R on the do not return list, there is fun to be had here. You should come with a friend next time or team up with some mongers when you get there. E G
Professor 1
01-08-08, 00:49
My conclusions:
1. I think the DR is overrated. Its proximity to the US I think makes it popular. Yes the women are beautiful but given the fact that none of them would accept less then $45 US was a big disappointment.
2. If you only have a weekend or so fly into Puerto Plata or Santiago. You don’t have time to spend 10 hours on a bus coming and going. Trust me on this.
3. I don’t think I would return to the DR. China, and Costa Rica have a more established straightforward mongering system. I felt like I had to look for hoes in the DR somewhat. In China you go directly to a BBS, Costa Rica has lots of cathouses and Germany even has the FKK’s.
4. I sort of considered this trip a scouting trip. Maybe if I ever go back I will be able to get a little more than one blow job.
5. Be sure to know what things should costs you. Everyone will try to rip you off.
6. Finding non pros is easy.
7. Change as much money as you can at the airport.
8. Be aware your phone may or may not work all the time.
Jedi,
I am sorry that you had such an experience in Sousua. I visited one day from Puerto Plata, and had a much more pleasant experience. For example, I did fine a girl for $1,100 pesos, and we used the short-time place called Calipso. Also, my cell telephone (AT&T) did work, although the roaming rates are rather high. Everyone did not consider me a DR national. In fact, many presume that I came from the states, until I started speaking Spanish. Of course, they recognized that my Spanish was not the DR variety, but it did not sound U.S. either. I change money at the supermarket, as it gave me a better rate.
I would suggest BB's in the future, but give Sousua another shot.
As you can perhaps discern from my title I didn’t have the greatest impression of the DR during my first mongering trip there. Before I launch into my detailed report I would like to thank all who assisted me with additional information during my trip. Without this board my trip would have not been possible. I intend to make this report as detailed as possible so that someone who has never been to the DR can read this report and know all they need to. So please excuse the level of detail...Dude, unless you plan on returning with someone who knows what they're doing down in DR, go to Rio!
-Helpmann :)
The 80% (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=548274&postcount=556)
Member #2128
01-08-08, 11:22
Helpmann is saying what needs to be said. Don't judge the DR by JEDI'S post. And no disrespect for JEDI. He shared his experience straight up. However, the DR isn't a good choice for many (Helpmann's 80%) who venture onto its cracked sidewalks. For me, however, it's a goldmine where the genuine and extrordinary nuggets must be sought and sifted from piles of rocks. This is too much work for many. But for me, it defines the experience and makes it exciting. The hunt? Gazelle? lol.
What I got from what JEDI said, is that he prefers a mongering destination where the "set-up" is a lot easier---A more "commerical" infrastructure like a wh**ehouse environment, where the price is set by the house and the procedure for pleasure is standard and well organized. That's NOT Sosua in the DR, which intstead, is full of chaos, risk and finding yourself in uncertain moments...full of possibility or catastrophe.
There is also the opportunity, JEDI, to go to BBeard's outside Puerto Plata, which is a little bit like a self-contained pleasure palace, where you will be surrounded by girls and mongers just like yourself. I've never been, but there are those who regularly have a great time there!
Happy New Year folks. Enjoy your life!
#2128
BeaverHunter
01-08-08, 16:02
I would like to know if anyone has stayed here at Hotel Voramar and what did they think. I will be there Feb. 4th to the 7th. Then doing BB's from the 7th. to the 10th. I realize it's near the casino and getting to Sosua might be a little annoying.
Thanks
Helpmann is saying what needs to be said. Don't judge the DR by JEDI'S post. And no disrespect for JEDI. He shared his experience straight up. However, the DR isn't a good choice for many (Helpmann's 80%) who venture onto its cracked sidewalks. For me, however, it's a goldmine where the genuine and extrordinary nuggets must be sought and sifted from piles of rocks. This is too much work for many. But for me, it defines the experience and makes it exciting. The hunt? Gazelle? lol.
What I got from what JEDI said, is that he prefers a mongering destination where the "set-up" is a lot easier---A more "commerical" infrastructure like a wh**ehouse environment, where the price is set by the house and the procedure for pleasure is standard and well organized. That's NOT Sosua in the DR, which intstead, is full of chaos, risk and finding yourself in uncertain moments...full of possibility or catastrophe.
There is also the opportunity, JEDI, to go to BBeard's outside Puerto Plata, which is a little bit like a self-contained pleasure palace, where you will be surrounded by girls and mongers just like yourself. I've never been, but there are those who regularly have a great time there!
Happy New Year folks. Enjoy your life!
#2128I have yet to meet one person, fase to fase that thinks the DR is close to what can be had in asia. The only thing the DR has going for it is it is easy flight from the east coast. To any one who has more then a week, the DR is not worth the time.
I havent been to the DR as often as other members. However I do have some advice/thoughts on jedi's report.
1. As with anyplace you go find the nearest airport to your destination and pay the extra money to fly direct.
2. Unless you are only going for a 4 day alcohol/pfp binge avoid the DR if it is raining. Some will argue that point with me but as jedi pointed out he was bored out of his mind. Even if there is sun you have the issue of getting places and the high costs of transportation.
You can always take a public taxi to puerto plata or caberete but after that you start getting into inflated cab rides and bus routes. My advice would be to have a little money put aside towards organized day trips. If you find a chica to wisk you around even better and cheaper...but you have to find one that is worth it.
The ideal DR vacation to me is beautiful weather lots of outdoor activities a little siesta in the afternoon followed by a night of screwing.
3. The food situation sucks. Baileys is good but pricey. Rockys has really decent food but yes they run out of things quite often. So much for a bowl of tropical fruits in the morning when all thats available is just that " all thats available".
4. I have no idea why you chose europa its been mentioned before that it has been going downhill.
5. The chica situation surprises me. Not to sound rude but I find it odd that you couldn't put $50 to good use...very odd but I don't know your situation.
On that note if you are not willing to spend at least $40 - $60 dollars on a chica then the DR (*today) is not for you.
6. Thank you for steering me away from santo domingo. Ive been tempted to go there but after reading numerous reports I dont feel it is the place for me.
7. When the rain lets up I would like to combine a sosua trip along with samana and jarabacoa. I think that would make for a well balanced active/pfp trip.
Thank you for your honesty and good luck on your next trip.
Escort King
01-08-08, 18:33
Food at the Shark Bar is great - Lou has some of the stuff brought in from the US. His burgers are good and the sausage and peppers are best in DR.
I havent been to the DR as often as other members. However I do have some advice/thoughts on jedi's report.
The food situation sucks. Baileys is good but pricey. Rockys has really decent food but yes they run out of things quite often. So much for a bowl of tropical fruits in the morning when all thats available is just that " all thats available".
Then again, if you are prepared to eat Dominican food, you can get a plate of good home-style food for 100 pesos (US$3). For breakfast and coffee, it is best to buy what you need at a grocery store and fix it in your room (or, if you are staying at Rocky's, in your cell). Two can eat as cheaply as one.
Prices of everything in the DR are going through the roof, not just chicas. My local informant said to me yesterday "Plantains are now 15 pesos EACH, can you imagine? We are all going to starve to death."
So next time you think you got it bad when there is no 1000 pussy in the meat market, just think about the price of platano in the vegetable market.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/economy/2008/1/8/26634/Many-Dominican-staples-post-price-jumps
Then again, if you are prepared to eat Dominican food, you can get a plate of good home-style food for 100 pesos (US$3). For breakfast and coffee, it is best to buy what you need at a grocery store and fix it in your room (or, if you are staying at Rocky's, in your cell). Two can eat as cheaply as one.
Prices of everything in the DR are going through the roof, not just chicas. My local informant said to me yesterday "Plantains are now 10 pesos EACH, can you imagine? We are all going to starve to death."
So next time you think you got it bad when there is no 1000 pussy in the meat market, just think about the price of platano in the vegetable market.
I went that route for a few days. One day after eating a meat dish I started getting chills. I was really sick for two days. Maybe I didnt go to the right place but then again in sosua you pay to be safe.
Professor 1
01-08-08, 20:44
I have yet to meet one person, fase to fase that thinks the DR is close to what can be had in asia. The only thing the DR has going for it is it is easy flight from the east coast. To any one who has more then a week, the DR is not worth the time.
I do not believe that anyone is attempting to compare DR to Asia. However, it is and remains a good spot. The short travel time is but one reason. Recently, I had a great GFE in Costambar that came very close to one that I had in Brazil. The DR simply requires more work in, as one member put it, sifting the gold from the rocks. There is gold.
I have yet to meet one person, fase to fase that thinks the DR is close to what can be had in asia. The only thing the DR has going for it is it is easy flight from the east coast. To any one who has more then a week, the DR is not worth the time.
The flying is certainly easier (and cheaper) from the east coast than it would be to Asia.
Language is another factor. Many of us who visit the DR from the east coast speak some Spanish--some of us more and others a bit less--but hardly any of us speak Thai, Tagalog, or Khmer.
The other thing the DR has is, ahem, women. Obviously this is a matter of taste. Either you find Dominican (and Haitian) women uniquely attractive, or you do not. I have said to many people on these boards: "Look at the map. The DR is in the West Indies. If you are not interested in having sexual relations with West Indian women, then the DR is not for you."
The Orient probably offers more in terms of massages, brothels, etc., but the DR is certainly very good for GFE or relationship-oriented sexual opportunities with freelancers.
You pays your money and you takes your choice.
I have yet to meet one person, fase to fase that thinks the DR is close to what can be had in asia. The only thing the DR has going for it is it is easy flight from the east coast. To any one who has more then a week, the DR is not worth the time.It all depends on what you are looking for. I am very attracted to latin women in general and Dominican Women in particular. Although, asian women are attractive as well, they just do not do it for me. I would venture to say that if the travel distance were equal I would choos the DR over every asian country, because that is what I am attracted to.
RockHound74
01-09-08, 00:58
Jedi,
I am sorry that you had a bad time. I went there in Oct. I speak very little spanish. I know maybe 20 words and I had a great time. I went by myself and met a ton of mongers. They all pointed me in the right direction and helped me out. For the money the DR was a great bet for a guy who likes the Dominican girl look, likes GFEs and enjoys warm weather. Flying to POP is much better and for a newbie BlackBeards is the best place (so I have heard) I will find out in a few days and I hope to report while I am there.
The country is extremely poor. Thus people living in shacks. I guess I expect in reference to a poor country that since I have been all over the world. If I can give a girl a nice living for a few weeks with my $$$ I guess I am doing my part. : D. LOL
Good luck outside the DR. And thanks for the great report!
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
My conclusions:
1. I think the DR is overrated. Its proximity to the US I think makes it popular. Yes the women are beautiful but given the fact that none of them would accept less then $45 US was a big disappointment.
2. If you only have a weekend or so fly into Puerto Plata or Santiago. You don’t have time to spend 10 hours on a bus coming and going. Trust me on this. 3. I don’t think I would return to the DR. China, and Costa Rica have a more established straightforward mongering system. I felt like I had to look for hoes in the DR somewhat. In China you go directly to a BBS, Costa Rica has lots of cathouses and Germany even has the FKK’s.
4. I sort of considered this trip a scouting trip. Maybe if I ever go back I will be able to get a little more than one blow job.
5. Be sure to know what things should costs you. Everyone will try to rip you off.
6. Finding non pros is easy.
7. Change as much money as you can at the airport. 8. Be aware your phone may or may not work all the time.
Member #3435
01-09-08, 02:55
I would like to know if anyone has stayed here at Hotel Voramar and what did they think. I will be there Feb. 4th to the 7th. Then doing BB's from the 7th. to the 10th. I realize it's near the casino and getting to Sosua might be a little annoying.
Thanks
I did back in 2004 & 2005 and I thought it was great. If I didn't get sidetracked to Colombia I'd still be going back. At that time, it would get panned occasionally on this board because it was farther from the action and, it was more of a German, Dutch, European hang out. None of this mattered to me cause:
1) Sosua is small and there are moto concho guys who hang out right next to the hotel so gettng around wasn't a problem. You could even walk if you had an extra 30 mins. Many days, I jogged (very lightly, leisurely) to the beach and back in the mornings in approx 30 mins.
2) I fly solo alot and speak good Spanish so not having many American paisanos around to chat up with wasn't a concern for me.
3) It's 100% chica friendly (they must show ID's), very reasonably priced for the accomodations, and good restaurant to boot. Take the breakfast with your room fee, it's optional.
4) They also have an annex with very nice spacious apartments that I thought were cool. The only downside to these is that they don't have A/C but they are large units with windows everywhere and ceiling fans. There were times when I was with a babe during the afternoon and took 2 or 3 showers throughout the session but WTF, we all had a great time. At night, heat was not a problem.
One last tip, if you really want extra freedom, rent one of their Yamaha 175's. Totally cool way to go.
Schwmm
Why stay at Voramar? when you can stay at new garden? or Casa Valareia.
Cap
BeaverHunter
01-09-08, 05:16
Thanks for the INfo Schwmm. They do say that in one of the Buildings there is A/C and took a room in that Building. The place looks nice on the website, but you know sometimes they touch things up a bit.
Joe DR
I would like to know if anyone has stayed here at Hotel Voramar and what did they think. I will be there Feb. 4th to the 7th. Then doing BB's from the 7th. to the 10th. I realize it's near the casino and getting to Sosua might be a little annoying.
Thanks
Stayed at the Voramar in February and March 2006 and i did really like it.
Good sized rooms and apartments some rooms have A/C (category B which is abit more expensive) and category A only with a fan.
All rooms/apartments have a safe which is however not big enough to put your laptop in it.
At the Voramar you can use the internet everywhere free wireless lan connection.
The hotel offeres great food and the bar is open 24/7.
ID for the girls is requiered most of the time, but if you give Pedro the nightguard 200 pesos you will not have a problem either.
For 20 bucks per day you can rent a scooter, so getting around should not be a problem, in front of the hotel are also motos available.
A walk to the beach will take you round about 30 minutes, but this might be a great way to explore Sosua for a bit.
Member #2128
01-09-08, 10:56
I have yet to meet one person, fase to fase that thinks the DR is close to what can be had in asia. The only thing the DR has going for it is it is easy flight from the east coast. To any one who has more then a week, the DR is not worth the time.
As the Professor said, "We're not comparing the DR with Asia". But if we were, we'd have to come to the conclusion that the basic difference, in addition to the flight (distance, time and expense), is that the girls in Asia are Asian and the girls in the DR are......well, not Asian.
If you like Asian girls, you definitely need to go to Asia. However, if you like your coffee black, or sometimes a mocha latte, and perhaps everything in between, the DR might be worth a visit, in spite of the negatives well documented here ("Where can I find a decent vegetarian meal in Sosua?").
My personal take on the matter of making a "comparison" at all is that the DR is the best local bet for those of us who can't make it to Africa, not Asia. Haitian women are the closest to African women you'll find in this part of the world and since Haiti is way too dangerous for foreigners, the DR fills the bill nicely....if lean ebony women make it hard.
Different Strokes for Different Folks,
#2128
Member #3435
01-10-08, 00:42
Thanks for the INfo Schwmm. They do say that in one of the Buildings there is A/C and took a room in that Building. The place looks nice on the website, but you know sometimes they touch things up a bit.
Joe DR
The website does not mis-represent the quality of the accomodations. What you see is what you'll get, at minimum. The apartments, IMO, are actually better..
Redneck Roy
01-10-08, 03:03
I just came back about 3 weeks ago from a 6 week trip to the DR, it was a pretty crazy trip, I posted some pics in the other section. But for some reason last while I was laying next to my wife in bed, a thought came to mind and I could not stop laughing, it was rather hard to make up a story on the spot that justified what was really going on in my head. I am not sure if any of you guys have ever seen the Midget that works @ Mangoo, sometimes you see him around Sosua. Well anyway he ended up @ Villa California for a crazy ass party.
I left the (club or casino ??), earlier and was home knocking the bottom out of this smokin hot 19 -20 year old sex machine named Noella, then I hear this loud music coming down the street, you know how they do it over there !!, well it stopped at our house, then the gate opened, then this group of people showed up about 15 - 18 people, they had some Akon bumpin (Smack that). Anyway the neighbors loved it, I am sure of that.
Before long the party was in and out of the pool and the house, after a couple of hours (5-6am) things started to quiet down, or so I thought, everyone had either left or was smackin some ass. I got up to refresh the Presidente and what I saw in the kitchen will be with me for ever.
There was a 6 foot 5 inch Haitian Chic laying on the kitchen table with her legs spread and open wide and this little Midget was just going to town on this giant, he was standing on a chair and her ass was hanging off the table a little, I have never seen anything like it in the world, not even movies. He had dyed his hair blond on 1 side, and the chic had some zebra stripped shirt pulled up over her head, the music was blasting way to loud, he had no clue I was watching, I thought I was at the circus. I woke up my buddy to come and see, we tried to snap pictures but the chic got all pissed off and left shortly after (sorry mini me). Crazy night, I knew I was having a good time in a good place when I woke up and there was a midget there and he was getting laid!You know its a premium DR moment when you call to a buddy: "bring the camera!"
Davidb3069
01-10-08, 08:46
I went that route for a few days. One day after eating a meat dish I started getting chills. I was really sick for two days. Maybe I didnt go to the right place but then again in sosua you pay to be safe.
You do need to be careful with the food in the DR. Their sanitation standards are not up to par. They leave food out to be landed on my flies, etc. They don't think anything of it. The street vendors have sold some things I could not even identify. Overall though, the food was good. Chicken (1/2 or 1/4) is always easy and cheap.
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