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Saw this picture posted on a website and you can guess what the description said. Anyway, Sosua is not what it once was on many levels. The good, the bad, and the ugly.From Yahoo! Answers"
"Dominicans in general dress much better than Americans. They take great pride in what clothes they have. Lightweight button down short sleeved shirts and long pant are pretty standard for men and women typically wear dresses, jeans or form-fitting pants. Shoes are probably the most important part of their wardrobe. Men do not typically wear sneakers although sandals are starting to come more into style. Dress leather shoes are preferred. Men will have their shoes shined at least once a week or more by street children or at home. Children wear school uniforms during the week with sneakers and jeans and t-shirts with sandals on the weekend."
Charles Pooter
07-31-13, 15:55
Sosua news says that after August 2nd the police will arrest anyone having a loud muffler or loud music.
For those that have been here they know how loud this shit really is.It's torture where I live in Puerto Plata but for the past few weeks I have noticed it is less often and sometimes with reduced volume, so maybe there really is a campaign under way, though I have been here long enough to have witnessed many false dawns on different issues.
If they get rid of those fuckers once and for all I would cheerfully accept the purging of putas and closing of bars and brothels in exchange as a good deal.
Charles Pooter
07-31-13, 15:58
Is Passions opened again or operating (DBA) under a different name or location?
Thanks fellows, I appreciate your input / the inside "skinny".Went past yesterday. The doors were closed but no longer shuttered and the cerrado notice had gone. Looks like something might happen soon.
In SD I rarely wear shorts. I make an effort to blend in. Sosua is a different animal. It is a vacation resort that is dominated by foreigners. Everything in Sosua is geared toward the guests. SD is the real DR. I try to dress in away that allows me to not standout. The dress style of young monger especially black young men is different. It is wrong to judge people based on how they are dressed. DR men are very fashion conscious. They go to the barber at least once a week. Some of the younger guys are dressing with the hip hop influence.
From Yahoo! Answers"
"Dominicans in general dress much better than Americans. They take great pride in what clothes they have. Lightweight button down short sleeved shirts and long pant are pretty standard for men and women typically wear dresses, jeans or form-fitting pants. Shoes are probably the most important part of their wardrobe. Men do not typically wear sneakers although sandals are starting to come more into style. Dress leather shoes are preferred. Men will have their shoes shined at least once a week or more by street children or at home. Children wear school uniforms during the week with sneakers and jeans and t-shirts with sandals on the weekend."
It's torture where I live in Puerto Plata but for the past few weeks I have noticed it is less often and sometimes with reduced volume, so maybe there really is a campaign under way, though I have been here long enough to have witnessed many false dawns on different issues.
If they get rid of those fuckers once and for all I would cheerfully accept the purging of putas and closing of bars and brothels in exchange as a good deal.Hell, yes, that would be a great trade-off! Especially the mobile announcement trucks. Unfortunately this only applies to vehicles, so will not affect Sosua bars, I don't think.
Saw this picture posted on a website and you can guess what the description said. Anyway, Sosua is not what it once was on many levels. The good, the bad, and the ugly.I have no idea what the description might have said. It would depend on what kind of Web site it was. I don't know exactly how Dominicans feel about visitors who dress like extras from Pirates of the Caribbean, but I suspect it is not all positive.
It's torture where I live in Puerto Plata but for the past few weeks I have noticed it is less often and sometimes with reduced volume, so maybe there really is a campaign under way, though I have been here long enough to have witnessed many false dawns on different issues.
If they get rid of those fuckers once and for all I would cheerfully accept the purging of putas and closing of bars and brothels in exchange as a good deal.Place's like Rumba must think whoever has the loudest music brings in the biggest croud but for me that shit hurts my ears and I am not hanging for long. The guy's who want to jam there car stero's need to go down a dirt road near the beach where the wave's can muffle the sound.
Prepare to be amazed!
1. I have been routed thru STI only once and was lucky to meet a couple of fellow-monger with whom I shared a taxi, and good times, to Sosua. We all felt perfectly safe, although it was a bit earlier than your flight, and saved moola by splitting the rather steep cost of around USD 100. I will leave it to the folk more experienced with STI to suggest alternatives.
2. I'm a huge fan of New Garden which ranges from $55 to $ 85. It's within close walking distance to the action, usually has an awesome monger community who will provide great intel for you (typically during the free breakfast) , has chicas on the premises (not usually a spectacular group though!) , nice pool, and best of all, the best Italian restaurant in Sosua, IMHO.
Have a blast!
Hi guys,
Looking to get into Sosua this weekend, finally found a nice 3 day weekend stretch to make the trip down. My first time in DR and looking forward to it! Couple questions, and I have an answer for one of them but looking at other options too.
1. My flight arrives at 1 AM on Saturday (early morning, late Friday) and I am unfortunately flying into STI as DL has no flights to POP. Is it safe to take a cab from STI to Sosua? I know it is an hour and half drive but I'm not sure if I want to stay overnight in STI or wait a few hours for the bus. I would rather just take a cab and get to my intended destination. Any recommended cab drivers that are dependable? Advice is greatly appreciated...
I'm going down to Sosua in September and I wondering about two thinks and hoping you guys can help!
The first is, after the closing of Passions as there been a price change for the TLN for the street chicas?
I remember reading that the price was around 2000 to 2500 for TLN is it still that?
The second is, does anybody know how much to pay a chica for a girlfriend experience for a duration of 2 weeks?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The Mind Bender
07-31-13, 23:28
Saw this picture posted on a website and you can guess what the description said. Anyway, Sosua is not what it once was on many levels. The good, the bad, and the ugly.Shirt, shorts and shoes.
I don't see the problem
In my trips there I've never seen any locals take issue with basket ball jerseys or pants
Shirt, shorts and shoes.
I don't see the problem
In my trips there I've never seen any locals take issue with basket ball jerseys or pantsExactly. Sosua is a beach / tourist town and people dress differently than they would in Santo Domingo or Santiago.
Hi guys,
Looking to get into Sosua this weekend, finally found a nice 3 day weekend stretch to make the trip down. My first time in DR and looking forward to it! Couple questions, and I have an answer for one of them but looking at other options too.
1. My flight arrives at 1 AM on Saturday (early morning, late Friday) and I am unfortunately flying into STI as DL has no flights to POP. Is it safe to take a cab from STI to Sosua? I know it is an hour and half drive but I'm not sure if I want to stay overnight in STI or wait a few hours for the bus. I would rather just take a cab and get to my intended destination. Any recommended cab drivers that are dependable? Advice is greatly appreciated, I did see the number of one drive in previous response and will be looking into that.
2. Hotel wise, best spot that is close to the action? I've read about any of Rick's places, is that still the best option? I do need to book a hotel room very soon, I am not looking for the cheapest option. Just what is close to the action (prefer walking distance) and a nice place with a comfortable bed. Price range is $75. $100 I would be perfectly fine with.
Thanks for the help! Counting down the days and will share my experience!Check your private message box
Some guys on site take issues with young black guys wearing hip hop garbs. Trayvon Martin affect. I am an older guy and truly have no affection for the way these guys present them selves. However they are individuals and should not be judged solely on the cloths on their back. My car broke down in a bad location. A young guy with low riding pants stopped and help me with my flat. 100s of cars with belt wearing guys rolled by me without a look. When we were younger some folk did not like how we wore our hair. Every generation has to be different. This is very normal Just remember the stuff we wore in the 70s and not laugh. These guys are our children and nephews. They need our love not our disdain. Old and still Kool
Exactly. Sosua is a beach / tourist town and people dress differently than they would in Santo Domingo or Santiago.
I don't know exactly how Dominicans feel about visitors who dress like extras from Pirates of the Caribbean, but I suspect it is not all positive.Not my style, but it gives me an opportunity to set myself apart from these folks. Guys can wear whatever they want. More power to them. I just never saw the logic of wearing Timberland boots in 90 degree weather or to the beach, but that's probably just me. Who knows ... maybe they work construction back home.
Arriving at pop going to Sosua right when you past the public beach start looking on your left and you will see a bank on your left you can exchange your legal money for Dominican money but you have to show passport. For all the guy's who had rather not deal with all the I'd thing just look for guy's holding big wads of cash in there hands on the street they are everywhere.
Some guys on site take issues with young black guys wearing hip hop garbs. Trayvon Martin affect. I am an older guy and truly have no affection for the way these guys present them selves. However they are individuals and should not be judged solely on the cloths on their back.No, I have no problem with how guys behave themselves in Sosua. Most are very polite, etc. Just some of them remind me sometimes of when I went on vacation for the first time to Spain in 1964. At that time most British vacationers did not have any specific warm-weather leisure clothing, so you would see people on the beach wearing elastic top gym shorts left over from high school or military service twenty years ago combined with short gray polyester socks and leather shoes, plus long sleeved button down shirts with the sleeves rolled up. They stood out like sore thumbs, but the truth was they were wearing the same things they would wear in the yard on the very occasional hot day in England (this was before global warming) , and they probably didn't have the money to buy clothes that they would only use on vacation. This was even before the time that people would make cut off shorts out of a pair of old jeans, because most people didn't have jeans back then, which were an expensive American import.
Another thing that came from the video of the public prosecutor was how she was saying that many of these tourists come to Sosua specifically for sex and nothing else. Obviously that is hardly news for anyone on this board, but I think a general lack of discretion leads to Dominicans paying more attention to something that might be less obvious if people were more discreet. I have had guys who don't know me from Adam start conversations with me in the street about girls they had last night, how much to pay, where to find girls, etc, when I could be FBI for all they know. Or if I ask how they are enjoying their vacation, they immediately start talking about girls, Disneyland for adults, etc, rather than the beach, the weather, the food, the hotel, Dominican culture, Dominican music, the language, the general ambience, or any other potential conversational topic that people usually talk about on vacation when meeting strangers.
No, I have no problem with how guys behave themselves in Sosua. Most are very polite, etc. Just some of them remind me sometimes of when I went on vacation for the first time to Spain in 1964. At that time most British vacationers did not have any specific warm-weather leisure clothing, so you would see people on the beach wearing elastic top gym shorts left over from high school or military service twenty years ago combined with short gray polyester socks and leather shoes, plus long sleeved button down shirts with the sleeves rolled up. They stood out like sore thumbs, but the truth was they were wearing the same things they would wear in the yard on the very occasional hot day in England (this was before global warming) , and they probably didn't have the money to buy clothes that they would only use on vacation. This was even before the time that people would make cut off shorts out of a pair of old jeans, because most people didn't have jeans back then, which were an expensive American import.
Another thing that came from the video of the public prosecutor was how she was saying that many of these tourists come to Sosua specifically for sex and nothing else. Obviously that is hardly news for anyone on this board, but I think a general lack of discretion leads to Dominicans paying more attention to something that might be less obvious if people were more discreet. I have had guys who don't know me from Adam start conversations with me in the street about girls they had last night, how much to pay, where to find girls, etc, when I could be FBI for all they know. Or if I ask how they are enjoying their vacation, they immediately start talking about girls, Disneyland for adults, etc, rather than the beach, the weather, the food, the hotel, Dominican culture, Dominican music, the language, the general ambience, or any other potential conversational topic that people usually talk about on vacation when meeting strangers.What you are forgetting is prostitution is legal in DR. So what if some or many just go there for girls? Bottom line is tourist dollars whether it is from mongers or vacationers goes to feed the people and support small businesses.
In fact mongers pay more than people vacationing. While mongers may not buy T shirts they certainly pay for the girl, drinks and sometimes take the girl out for shopping and tours. Mongers do exchange info on their experiences.
FBI is not going to prosecute anybody even if they are listening in on monger activities.
If the prostitution is legal the politicians should not be complaining about mongers coming for sex.
What you are forgetting is prostitution is legal in DR. So what if some or many just go there for girls? Bottom line is tourist dollars whether it is from mongers or vacationers goes to feed the people and support small businesses.I know that, but I am just pointing out that there are also factions within DR society who do not want the area to be promoted as a sex tourism destination, for example Alba Nunez Pichardo, and while they do not oppose earning tourist dollars, they think it can be done by other means. Maybe they are right, and maybe they are not.
Although prostitution is legal in the DR, in general that is not something that Dominicans are proud of or wish to promote. Prostitution is legal in most countries of the world other than the US (for example England and Scotland, or Australia) , but very few nations wanted to be associated with sex tourism from the US.
If you Google the phrase "Sosua dress code" and then look under "images" on the first page of results you will find pictures of white men having their dicks sucked by Dominican girls, a woman spreading her pussy, and other similar kinds of images, some of them probably posted by people who use this board or other similar boards. Not all Dominicans think this is a good thing. That is all I am saying.
i know that, but i am just pointing out that there are also factions within dr society who do not want the area to be promoted as a sex tourism destination, for example alba nunez pichardo, and while they do not oppose earning tourist dollars, they think it can be done by other means. maybe they are right, and maybe they are not.
although prostitution is legal in the dr, in general that is not something that dominicans are proud of or wish to promote. prostitution is legal in most countries of the world other than the us (for example england and scotland, or australia) , but very few nations wanted to be associated with sex tourism from the us.
if you google the phrase "sosua dress code" and then look under "images" on the first page of results you will find pictures of white men having their dicks sucked by dominican girls, a woman spreading her pussy, and other similar kinds of images, some of them probably posted by people who use this board or other similar boards. not all dominicans think this is a good thing. that is all i am saying.while no country want to be associated with prostitution, fact is it is part of life for ages. if dominican government do not like it they should enact laws to ban it. if it is banned i am sure many mongers will be afraid to go there.
yes, it is illegal here in usa. in some respects it has controlled prostitution here. however it still flourishes. as long as it is not **** the government tolerates it.
your point is mongers should keep a low profile. but it is impossible to do that. it is important to discuss good and bad experiences which will help other mongers.
you cannot have one law and blame visitors and locals to use the law to their advantage. however dominican law does say that it is illegal to operate pimping sex dens. i guess this is how they got passions or passions got too noticed for them. i am sure some day
they will go after black beards and other locations having women to serve guys.
while no country want to be associated with prostitution, fact is it is part of life for ages. if dominican government do not like it they should enact laws to ban it. if it is banned i am sure many mongers will be afraid to go there.
yes, it is illegal here in usa. in some respects it has controlled prostitution here. however it still flourishes. as long as it is not **** the government tolerates it.
your point is mongers should keep a low profile. but it is impossible to do that. it is important to discuss good and bad experiences which will help other mongers.
you cannot have one law and blame visitors and locals to use the law to their advantage. however dominican law does say that it is illegal to operate pimping sex dens. i guess this is how they got passions or passions got too noticed for them. i am sure some day.
they will go after black beards and other locations having women to serve guys.i think that with all that is going on in sosua with closings, political pressure etc that the sam cooke is song is appropriate- "a change is going to come". the winds of change are blowing. there is too much effort being put into this suddenly for it just to be for show. my friend just got back from angeles city and the same thing is going on there.
SavePros321
08-01-13, 15:19
I guess this is how they got passions or passions got too noticed for them. I am sure some day.
They will go after black beards and other locations having women to serve guys.I don't think Blackbeards has anything to worry about. They would not fall under the brothel/pimping charges that Passions got hit with.
At Blackbeards all they do is invite the girls over and you pay your money directly to the girls; not to the "house". They essentially have the very exact same set up as New Garden, just with hotter chicas.
The only problem they may have is that I've heard that they fine chicas for not showing up to the resort for their assigned shift. But they do not take a cut of any money the chicas earn while at Blackbeards.
While no country want to be associated with prostitution, fact is it is part of life for ages. If Dominican government do not like it they should enact laws to ban it. If it is banned I am sure many mongers will be afraid to go there.That is a bit simplistic given the worldwide debate over prostitution laws that has been going on over the last few years. Few countries have followed the example of Sweden in making it a crime to be a male client of a prostitute while exempting females from any legal charges, but Britain was seriously considering it and then instead introduced a bizarre law that made it a "strict liability" offense to have sex for money with a "trafficked" woman-meaning the man was guilty regardless of whether he knew the woman was "trafficked" or not. I don't think anyone has actually been prosecuted under this law yet.
There is no doubt that the DR could do a lot to reduce its charm as a sex tourism destination simply by enforcing existing laws, which seems to be what is going on right now with the massage parlor closures and the move to close Passions.
Member #4480
08-01-13, 15:56
I know that, but I am just pointing out that there are also factions within DR society who do not want the area to be promoted as a sex tourism destination, for example Alba Nunez Pichardo, and while they do not oppose earning tourist dollars, they think it can be done by other means. Maybe they are right, and maybe they are not.
Although prostitution is legal in the DR, in general that is not something that Dominicans are proud of or wish to promote. Prostitution is legal in most countries of the world other than the US (for example England and Scotland, or Australia) , but very few nations wanted to be associated with sex tourism from the US.
If you Google the phrase "Sosua dress code" and then look under "images" on the first page of results you will find pictures of white men having their dicks sucked by Dominican girls, a woman spreading her pussy, and other similar kinds of images, some of them probably posted by people who use this board or other similar boards. Not all Dominicans think this is a good thing. That is all I am saying.Right message, wrong audience. Clearly they are not capable of abstract thinking. You are are going to have to be blunt and call it what it really is and why these recent events in Sosua were predicable and a long time coming.
(No legalized prositution in the US? Try Nevada)
(No legalized prositution in the US? Try Nevada)That is really legalized pimping, as the prostitutes, even when they have the state license, are not allowed to practice independently.
Again from the Alba Nunez Pichardo video, one of the things they are railing about is that most of the girls are 15 to 23, but the many of the men are 50, 60, 70. One might question the lower numbers, but evidently they don't like the aesthetics of intergenerational prostitution.
Member #4480
08-01-13, 16:06
That is really legalized pimping, as the prostitutes, even when they have the state license, are not allowed to practice independently.Of course, but it's still a legal place in the us where one can buy sex.
while no country want to be associated with prostitution, fact is it is part of life for ages. if dominican government do not like it they should enact laws to ban it. if it is banned i am sure many mongers will be afraid to go there.
yes, it is illegal here in usa. in some respects it has controlled prostitution here. however it still flourishes. as long as it is not **** the government tolerates it.
your point is mongers should keep a low profile. but it is impossible to do that. it is important to discuss good and bad experiences which will help other mongers.
you cannot have one law and blame visitors and locals to use the law to their advantage. however dominican law does say that it is illegal to operate pimping sex dens. i guess this is how they got passions or passions got too noticed for them. i am sure some day.
they will go after black beards and other locations having women to serve guys.it is easy to keep a low profile.
do not act like a dog in heat.
do not flaunt chicas in front of the local males.
keep your bragadoica to this board.
be careful about posting photos.
sometimes mongers are their own worse enemy.
what you are forgetting is prostitution is legal in dr. so what if some or many just go there for girls? bottom line is tourist dollars whether it is from mongers or vacationers goes to feed the people and support small businesses.
in fact mongers pay more than people vacationing. while mongers may not buy t shirts they certainly pay for the girl, drinks and sometimes take the girl out for shopping and tours. mongers do exchange info on their experiences.
fbi is not going to prosecute anybody even if they are listening in on monger activities.
if the prostitution is legal the politicians should not be complaining about mongers coming for sex.if you are broadcasting **** sex activities the us government will get you.
It is not called the oldest profession for nothing. Men will pay for good and bad sex.
Of course, but it's still a legal place in the us where one can buy sex.
I understand Rumba and D'Latinos has many games; like ESPN (s) and so forth. I get all that in my apt. Too, but my question is;
In the fall; Who gets all the NFL games every Sunday which is available only on 'NFL ticket'. This 'ticket' must be purchased by the Sports bar. Individuals too coting $200 per year. In the USA the basic definition of a sports bar is having the all different 'sports tickets' year round, like; NFL, NBA, NHL ect. Ticket (s).
All cities / towns in the USA have a few, and as I mentioned I even saw this in Medillin at a Hooters. This 'ticket' is needed to guarantee you can watch your home cities team (s) every game. Its definitely not in Sosua. So I'm guessing / espero P. P. Or Cabarete.
Mr Enternational
08-01-13, 21:17
Must be hot in there:
ConquerorVal
08-01-13, 21:50
Been in Sosua for about 24 hours, and in that time I managed to have my first threesome with two lovely 20 something girls, and in the evening hooked up with a young Haitian, that looked like in her teens. My expectations as a newbie travelling solo for the first time were that of worry and disappointment. So far neither has come true. The threesome, I got caught up in while looking for a market to purchase some water, and was totally unplanned. I felt like a kid in a candy store. I did not expect to see so many nice young chicas. Whatever I saw on the internet or home pages of FOD and BB, none of those girls were my type. I love asian girls, and therefore spinners are my cup of tea. Let me say there is everything for everyone's taste in here. And it is so easy. One thing I learned with the threesome was that apparently NG where I am staying does not allow happy hour, which means you are not allowed to bring two girls in your room at once. I am not sure whether its true, but we ended up going to Central hotel to have our fun. Both of the girls were nice, but the older one seemed to be coaching the younger one, and was less involved. They also wanted to do CBJ, especially the older girl. I declined and they agreed to my requests. The cost was 3000 pesos for both of them. I don't think I will go for a threesome again as they rarely meet people's PSE expectations.
After having a meal and couple of drinks I decided at around 10:00 pm to check out the bar scene and ended up at DLatins (?) , where one can stand by the bar, and get looked at by a whole bunch of girls. Its actually was quite nice and casual, and I realized that I do not need a wingman, and I was glad I did not go to BB. Soon enough I was approached by a lovely young Haitian girl, who was cuddly and all, and ended up spending the night with her. Actually she was consistently nice and sweet during the night as well. Paid her the going price of 3000 pesos and she was very happy. Made a date with her for this evening, and will see what happens. Got to spread out my energy and take it down a notch. I still have six nights left and I am not Chris Long.
So far Sosua has not been a disappointment at all. Observations:
I am glad I came alone.
There are girls of all types here.
NG is ok, but overpriced. None of the girls at this time are my type. Next time I would choose a condo, and bring my chicas there. Like Sosua Suites, or Mary Rose.
Prices for service has not changed.
Out standing stuff. Your report reflects every experience I have ever had in Sosua. It is hard to control your self when you first get there. Take your time and only take girls you want. It is a lot harder to do then say. I would do a very young looking then a very thick. Sport fucking at its best. If you meet a girls that you click with see if she is into girls. If she is a seasoned pro there is a good chance that she is. The young sweet ones that are very attractive to me are usually poor canidates for 3somes. If you hook up with a seasoned girl and things are going well ask if she knows any Bi girls. Last thing haitian girls are awesome in the sack. She would have been happy with 2k or 2. 5 pesos for all night. I was offered a 3 some by a Haitian girl but did not accept. I think this was a mistake. Slow down a bit or you will be out of leche really fast. No way I could last 6 days in Sosua. Maybe take chica to SD for a road trip. Hop bus and you are there.
Been in Sosua for about 24 hours, and in that time I managed to have my first threesome with two lovely 20 something girls, and in the evening hooked up with a young Haitian, that looked like in her teens. My expectations as a newbie travelling solo for the first time were that of worry and disappointment. So far neither has come true. The threesome, I got caught up in while looking for a market to purchase some water, and was totally unplanned. I felt like a kid in a candy store. I did not expect to see so many nice young chicas. Whatever I saw on the internet or home pages of FOD and BB, none of those girls were my type. I love asian girls, and therefore spinners are my cup of tea. Let me say there is everything for everyone's taste in here. And it is so easy. One thing I learned with the threesome was that apparently NG where I am staying does not allow happy hour, which means you are not allowed to bring two girls in your room at once. I am not sure whether its true, but we ended up going to Central hotel to have our fun. Both of the girls were nice, but the older one seemed to be coaching the younger one, and was less involved. They also wanted to do CBJ, especially the older girl. I declined and they agreed to my requests. The cost was 3000 pesos for both of them. I don't think I will go for a threesome again as they rarely meet people's PSE expectations.
After having a meal and couple of drinks I decided at around 10:00 pm to check out the bar scene and ended up at DLatins (?) , where one can stand by the bar, and get looked at by a whole bunch of girls. Its actually was quite nice and casual, and I realized that I do not need a wingman, and I was glad I did not go to BB. Soon enough I was approached by a lovely young Haitian girl, who was cuddly and all, and ended up spending the night with her. Actually she was consistently nice and sweet during the night as well. Paid her the going price of 3000 pesos and she was very happy. Made a date with her for this evening, and will see what happens. Got to spread out my energy and take it down a notch. I still have six nights left and I am not Chris Long.
So far Sosua has not been a disappointment at all. Observations:
I am glad I came alone.
There are girls of all types here.
NG is ok, but overpriced. None of the girls at this time are my type. Next time I would choose a condo, and bring my chicas there. Like Sosua Suites, or Mary Rose.
Prices for service has not changed.
Hey guys,
This is not meant to be a double post but I put in the Santo Domingo forum that ill be in Sosua around the 24th I'm a relative newb but from reading the forum it doesn't seem to matter. I went to Caberete once and visited Sosua twice (but I was with my girl). Going alone this time and I'm going for the gusto so to speak. Anybody going to be in the area?
So far Sosua has not been a disappointment at all.Good report and good luck!
Like the recent post, I've been in Sosua over a day now so I'll tell you guys what I've seen so far.
For one, there aren't quite as many girls as back in Feb but this is slow season I suppose and I'm not saying that they are few in number, they're everywhere. Day time action is a little slow, but you can still find dimes on the beach or on the street. Just have to take a walk. However, even though there are less chicas, there are far less mongers here as well; so it more than evens out-strangely though, Rick is completely booked in all his establishments. It is literally a buyers market right now. Yesterday, I was taking a couple of first-timers around and telling them everything I learned from last trip as well as this board. These guys were in heaven and I had to consistently tell them to slow their roll-they were trying to get every number from almost every girl they passed by. Within an hour they collected close to twenty numbers! One of the guys was a real haggler and was constantly getting girls to come down to 1000 pesos short time and a few were willing to do 1500 for anal. If it matters, this guy was young thirties, in good shape, and pretty good looking. Myself, I wasn't settling for anything the first night. For one, I want to feel the girls out and get a good one [more than enough time for that, ] and two, my dick is still raw from screwing the day before I left LOL. Anyway, one of the dudes took a girl to a ST hotel that she had already and we waited at the bar while he did his thing. 1500 pesos, BBBJ, and somewhat mechanical in the sack from what he said. Other guy scored an hour-glass dime out of D'latins for 2000 pesos TLN. Speaking of D'latins. The place was crawling with smoking hot women. A lot of the hottest girls seemed to be coming from Santiago for some reason; lighter skinned girls. I did notice a few of the stunners had shit attitudes and quickly told my new buds to drop that chic. There were just too many to choose from. So end the night they both take a chica back to Trade Winds where they were staying; one was TLN like I mentioned and the other took a nice looking haitian girl for 1500 pesos. No complaints from either of them next day. This morning however, all those numbers they collected payed off. The good looking guy had a girl from CMP come during the day to fuck his brains out and he only payed her 700 pesos [long story short with this one is he spent a lot of time with her last night and she may really like him cause he said she never even asked for money. Yeah that is too low and I am sure you are thinking the same I am now that she was expecting more and should have got it but it is what it is. ] Another girl came over in the morning that they met the day before, they sent her to the market, she came back, cooked breakfast, then gave him BBBJ. Another girl that didn't even get 1000 pesos.
BTW, I found out today that the reason that guy is such a good haggler is that he is flat broke now. One week vacation in Sosua and he brought enough money for one day's worth of fun. Not smart. Now he is trying to get his friend to loan him money and has the nerve to get pissed when his friend said no. I ditched this scene immediately as I don't want to get caught up in that drama or have him try and ask me which is inevitable. Best of luck to him and Wester Union connects but I sure feel bad for his bud that is stuck with him. Dude just spent his last pesos on a chicken dinner and got pissed cause his bud won't buy him a Pepsi to wash it down with LOL. What a leach.
Going back to it being a buyers market, there was a guy sitting at Rocky's as we were all checking in with Rick that told us that girls are desperate right now and you can really get a good deal. That dude proved it right the first day.
CMP report: place is packed with girls and a lot of them are really, really hot! Some of them still not so much, but there is variety for sure. Some I recognize from Passions last trip. Also, since PAssions is closed, the brothel mongers have migrated to CMP. There's not a lot of them but from last night, and me just coming back from there today, I'd say about 4-6 dudes at any given time give or take. The price for TLN has gone up to 4000 pesos even late at night. However, it is completely doable to get these girls off the clock for cheaper. Main reason I went there to try and get my head-monster to meet up outside that place.
MAry Rose: Very nice place but respectively far from the action. As others have mentioned this can be a good thing because like Chris Long has said, there are girls walking around that neighborhood that live in that bario. So you can see them in the daylight and even score some easy hook-ups without traveling far. As far as the distance, motoconcho sure helps but you can walk to the main strip or the beach in about 15 minutes. Apartment is clean, new, nice appliances, nice flatscreen TV with tons of english channels, good wifi in apt 9 and near the pool. Nice patio furniture and pool are with nice plants and flowers. Shuttle service every two hours but it's kind of on Dominican time LOL. Ceiling fans kick some air so I don't even need A / C at night. A / C is only in the bedroom BTW. Bathroom is all nice tile, marble it looks like. Good couch, not like in Sosua Suites. Bed is very comfortable and cleaning crew seems to be efficient. It's all Ricks family so I feel pretty safe not having to worry about the safe being tampered with.
Trade Winds: Got to see my friends room and I wouldn't really recommend this place. It is far from the action [it's on the main street, and not Pedro Clisante main street. Like the one that goes to Cabarete, ] and is exactly the same style as Sosua Suites. Apartment type setup with a very uncomfortable couch. It is motoconcho all the way every time you want to get to the room and back.
That's it for now. Got a week left so I'll post more as I see it fit.
Adios
SavePros321
08-02-13, 02:06
For one, there aren't quite as many girls as back in Feb but this is slow season I suppose and I'm not saying that they are few in number, they're everywhere. Day time action is a little slow, but you can still find dimes on the beach or on the street. Just have to take a walk. However, even though there are less chicas, there are far less mongers here as well; so it more than evens out-strangely though, Rick is completely booked in all his establishments. It is literally a buyers market right now. Yesterday, I was taking a couple of first-timers around and telling them everything I learned from last trip as well as this board. These guys were in heaven and I had to consistently tell them to slow their roll-they were trying to get every number from almost every girl they passed by. Within an hour they collected close to twenty numbers! One of the guys was a real haggler and was constantly getting girls to come down to 1000 pesos short time and a few were willing to do 1500 for anal. If it matters, this guy was young thirties, in good shape, and pretty good looking. Myself, I wasn't settling for anything the first night. For one, I want to feel the girls out and get a good one [more than enough time for that, ] and two, my dick is still raw from screwing the day before I left LOL. Anyway, one of the dudes took a girl to a ST hotel that she had already and we waited at the bar while he did his thing. 1500 pesos, BBBJ, and somewhat mechanical in the sack from what he said. Other guy scored an hour-glass dime out of D'latins for 2000 pesos TLN. Speaking of D'latins. The place was crawling with smoking hot women. A lot of the hottest girls seemed to be coming from Santiago for some reason; lighter skinned girls. I did notice a few of the stunners had shit attitudes and quickly told my new buds to drop that chic. There were just too many to choose from. So end the night they both take a chica back to Trade Winds where they were staying; one was TLN like I mentioned and the other took a nice looking haitian girl for 1500 pesos. No complaints from either of them next day. This morning however, all those numbers they collected payed off. The good looking guy had a girl from CMP come during the day to fuck his brains out and he only payed her 700 pesos [long story short with this one is he spent a lot of time with her last night and she may really like him cause he said she never even asked for money. Yeah that is too low and I am sure you are thinking the same I am now that she was expecting more and should have got it but it is what it is. ] Another girl came over in the morning that they met the day before, they sent her to the market, she came back, cooked breakfast, then gave him BBBJ. Another girl that didn't even get 1000 pesos.
BTW, I found out today that the reason that guy is such a good haggler is that he is flat broke now. One week vacation in Sosua and he brought enough money for one day's worth of fun. Not smart. Now he is trying to get his friend to loan him money and has the nerve to get pissed when his friend said no. I ditched this scene immediately as I don't want to get caught up in that drama or have him try and ask me which is inevitable. Best of luck to him and Wester Union connects but I sure feel bad for his bud that is stuck with him. Dude just spent his last pesos on a chicken dinner and got pissed cause his bud won't buy him a Pepsi to wash it down with LOL. What a leach.Very good, detailed report Trace79 and thanks for taking the time out of your trip to post some info.
Keep your eye on the broke guy: this will be the dude that gets locked up for trying to get free pussy (telling her he has the money when he doesn't have a nickle to his name) , LOL!
Like the recent post, I've been in Sosua over a day now so I'll tell you guys what I've seen so far.
For one, there aren't quite as many girls as back in Feb but this is slow season I suppose and I'm not saying that they are few in number, they're everywhere. Day time action is a little slow, but you can still find dimes on the beach or on the street. Just have to take a walk. However, even though there are less chicas, there are far less mongers here as well; so it more than evens out-strangely though, Rick is completely booked in all his establishments. It is literally a buyers market right now. Yesterday, I was taking a couple of first-timers around and telling them everything I learned from last trip as well as this board. These guys were in heaven and I had to consistently tell them to slow their roll-they were trying to get every number from almost every girl they passed by. Within an hour they collected close to twenty numbers! One of the guys was a real haggler and was constantly getting girls to come down to 1000 pesos short time and a few were willing to do 1500 for anal. If it matters, this guy was young thirties, in good shape, and pretty good looking. Myself, I wasn't settling for anything the first night. For one, I want to feel the girls out and get a good one [more than enough time for that, ] and two, my dick is still raw from screwing the day before I left LOL. Anyway, one of the dudes took a girl to a ST hotel that she had already and we waited at the bar while he did his thing. 1500 pesos, BBBJ, and somewhat mechanical in the sack from what he said. Other guy scored an hour-glass dime out of D'latins for 2000 pesos TLN. Speaking of D'latins. The place was crawling with smoking hot women. A lot of the hottest girls seemed to be coming from Santiago for some reason; lighter skinned girls. I did notice a few of the stunners had shit attitudes and quickly told my new buds to drop that chic. There were just too many to choose from. So end the night they both take a chica back to Trade Winds where they were staying; one was TLN like I mentioned and the other took a nice looking haitian girl for 1500 pesos. No complaints from either of them next day. This morning however, all those numbers they collected payed off. The good looking guy had a girl from CMP come during the day to fuck his brains out and he only payed her 700 pesos [long story short with this one is he spent a lot of time with her last night and she may really like him cause he said she never even asked for money. Yeah that is too low and I am sure you are thinking the same I am now that she was expecting more and should have got it but it is what it is. ] Another girl came over in the morning that they met the day before, they sent her to the market, she came back, cooked breakfast, then gave him BBBJ. Another girl that didn't even get 1000 pesos.
BTW, I found out today that the reason that guy is such a good haggler is that he is flat broke now. One week vacation in Sosua and he brought enough money for one day's worth of fun. Not smart. Now he is trying to get his friend to loan him money and has the nerve to get pissed when his friend said no. I ditched this scene immediately as I don't want to get caught up in that drama or have him try and ask me which is inevitable. Best of luck to him and Wester Union connects but I sure feel bad for his bud that is stuck with him. Dude just spent his last pesos on a chicken dinner and got pissed cause his bud won't buy him a Pepsi to wash it down with LOL. What a leach.
Going back to it being a buyers market, there was a guy sitting at Rocky's as we were all checking in with Rick that told us that girls are desperate right now and you can really get a good deal. That dude proved it right the first day.
CMP report: place is packed with girls and a lot of them are really, really hot! Some of them still not so much, but there is variety for sure. Some I recognize from Passions last trip. Also, since PAssions is closed, the brothel mongers have migrated to CMP. There's not a lot of them but from last night, and me just coming back from there today, I'd say about 4-6 dudes at any given time give or take. The price for TLN has gone up to 4000 pesos even late at night. However, it is completely doable to get these girls off the clock for cheaper. Main reason I went there to try and get my head-monster to meet up outside that place.
MAry Rose: Very nice place but respectively far from the action. As others have mentioned this can be a good thing because like Chris Long has said, there are girls walking around that neighborhood that live in that bario. So you can see them in the daylight and even score some easy hook-ups without traveling far. As far as the distance, motoconcho sure helps but you can walk to the main strip or the beach in about 15 minutes. Apartment is clean, new, nice appliances, nice flatscreen TV with tons of english channels, good wifi in apt 9 and near the pool. Nice patio furniture and pool are with nice plants and flowers. Shuttle service every two hours but it's kind of on Dominican time LOL. Ceiling fans kick some air so I don't even need A / C at night. A / C is only in the bedroom BTW. Bathroom is all nice tile, marble it looks like. Good couch, not like in Sosua Suites. Bed is very comfortable and cleaning crew seems to be efficient. It's all Ricks family so I feel pretty safe not having to worry about the safe being tampered with.
Trade Winds: Got to see my friends room and I wouldn't really recommend this place. It is far from the action [it's on the main street, and not Pedro Clisante main street. Like the one that goes to Cabarete, ] and is exactly the same style as Sosua Suites. Apartment type setup with a very uncomfortable couch. It is motoconcho all the way every time you want to get to the room and back.
That's it for now. Got a week left so I'll post more as I see it fit.
AdiosEach time I have been to the DR I have met up with a Haitian chica that blew my mind. The one's I have had the pleasure of knowing were not pushy at all and really made me enjoy my self.
I can't hardly believe CMP is charging 4000 for service but it sounds like you have learned the game early off.
Take time to smell the rose's why you are there most people don't.
Sosua is always a buyers market. Most of us are so hyped we do not have the patients to negotiate. Exchanging numbers is always a good thing. When the ladies need the money and are ready to bargain they call. You feel like a movies star. The guy on vacation with no money on his first day should be a movie. He is going to be one hungry, horny and evil person. He may have to rob someone. Can you imagine sitting in Rumbas and DLatins and not being able to pull the trigger. Talk about torture. If I were him I would go home right away.
Very good, detailed report Trace79 and thanks for taking the time out of your trip to post some info.
Keep your eye on the broke guy: this will be the dude that gets locked up for trying to get free pussy (telling her he has the money when he doesn't have a nickle to his name) , LOL!
Chris Long
08-02-13, 03:56
Like the recent post, I've been in Sosua over a day now so I'll tell you guys what I've seen so far.
For one, there aren't quite as many girls as back in Feb but this is slow season I suppose and I'm not saying that they are few in number, they're everywhere. Day time action is a little slow, but you can still find dimes on the beach or on the street. Just have to take a walk. However, even though there are less chicas, there are far less mongers here as well; so it more than evens out-strangely though, Rick is completely booked in all his establishments. It is literally a buyers market right now. Yesterday, I was taking a couple of first-timers around and telling them everything I learned from last trip as well as this board. These guys were in heaven and I had to consistently tell them to slow their roll-they were trying to get every number from almost every girl they passed by. Within an hour they collected close to twenty numbers! One of the guys was a real haggler and was constantly getting girls to come down to 1000 pesos short time and a few were willing to do 1500 for anal. If it matters, this guy was young thirties, in good shape, and pretty good looking. Myself, I wasn't settling for anything the first night...Thanks for the update, your the first to give a good boots on the ground report since the closing of Passions, keep the updates coming, they are much appreciated.
Chris
Good report and good luck!ConquerorVal glad to hear that you are enjoying yourself (and so are the girls). It is reports like yours that remind me that I really don't see why prostitution should be illegal. The happiness you experienced is certainly a man thing and each male needs to experience this at least once.
Anyway wanted to remind you that there will be highs and there will be lows. For every quality provider there there are at least 3 putas and 1 ROBs. So you need to use your judgement and not just wishful thinking. WYSIWYG. What you see is what you get is not true there. Actually. That is part of the fun. The hunting for quality chicas, imagining them without their clothes, etc. All this makes the experience exciting and adds to the mystery.
Enjoy your days man. Sosua is certainly the promised land for males.
From today's Sosua News:
During the past few days employees of the 'town and country planning', commissioned by Mayor Ilana Neumann, are busy repairing sidewalks, repainting stained walls and painting traffic signs in the streets.
The entire tourist neighborhood El Batey, in particular the main road Pedro Clisante, is currently being taken care of and decorated. With this action the mayor wants to make the resort town of Sosúa more attractive for tourists.
BTW, I found out today that the reason that guy is such a good haggler is that he is flat broke now. One week vacation in Sosua and he brought enough money for one day's worth of fun. Not smart. Now he is trying to get his friend to loan him money and has the nerve to get pissed when his friend said no. I ditched this scene immediately as I don't want to get caught up in that drama or have him try and ask me which is inevitable. Best of luck to him and Wester Union connects but I sure feel bad for his bud that is stuck with him. Dude just spent his last pesos on a chicken dinner and got pissed cause his bud won't buy him a Pepsi to wash it down with LOL. What a leech.Great report, but what an odd story! Obviously he does not have a debit card to get cash from a bank account or a credit card to take a cash advance, so this could not have been entirely accidental state of affairs, or maybe he just intended to observe the scene and not participate. I don't blame the friend for not giving him a loan. Definitely best to avoid this scene, but maybe the guy will eventually find someone to sponge off.
Been in Sosua for about 24 hours, Soon enough I was approached by a lovely young Haitian girl, who was cuddly and all, and ended up spending the night with her. Actually she was consistently nice and sweet during the night as well. Paid her the going price of 3000 pesos and she was very happy. .The going price for all night with a DLatin girls is always 2000 pesos (sometime less for Haitians) only newbie pay more.
From today's Sosua News:
During the past few days employees of the 'town and country planning', commissioned by Mayor Ilana Neumann, are busy repairing sidewalks, repainting stained walls and painting traffic signs in the streets.
The entire tourist neighborhood El Batey, in particular the main road Pedro Clisante, is currently being taken care of and decorated. With this action the mayor wants to make the resort town of Sosúa more attractive for tourists.Yup, and as the pictures from Sosua News show, the section of Pedro Clissante between Dr. Rosen and Ayuntamiento is now two-way instead of one making it a bit easier for motoconchos coming from the west end of Pedro Clissante to get to the main block of bars or the beach without a long detour.
Thanks for the update, your the first to give a good boots on the ground report since the closing of Passions, keep the updates coming, they are much appreciated.
ChrisSlow season?
It is the summer.
SavePros321
08-02-13, 17:26
The going price for all night with a DLatin girls is always 2000 pesos (sometime less for Haitians) only newbie pay more.I seriously hope we don't get into this conversation again. It doesn't matter what "we" perceive the "going price" to be. If a chica says she wants 3000 for TLN and will not negotiate, she is going to hold out until she finds someone who will pay her this, or she will go home hungry. You will either go home with your dick in your hand, or hold out until you find someone who will take your 2000 TLN.
Has jack-shit to do with being a newbie.
I seriously hope we don't get into this conversation again. It doesn't matter what "we" perceive the "going price" to be. If a chica says she wants 3000 for TLN and will not negotiate, she is going to hold out until she finds someone who will pay her this, or she will go home hungry. You will either go home with your dick in your hand, or hold out until you find someone who will take your 2000 TLN.
Has jack-shit to do with being a newbie.Most D'Latins girls don't do TLN, they can make triple the money doing 3 St in a night.
Mr Enternational
08-02-13, 18:25
The going price for all night with a DLatin girls is always 2000 pesos (sometime less for Haitians) only newbie pay more.Well I say the going price for all night with a girl from D'Latin is always 1000 pesos (same for Haitians). Only a newbie, a rich guy, or a fool would pay more than what I say.
ConquerorVal
08-02-13, 19:18
Only a newbie, a rich guy, or a fool would pay more than what I say.I appreciate the member's feedback, and will definitely take good advice to heart, but calling me a fool is not necessary. We are all on the same team. The previous reports indicated overnights are 3000 pesos. Live and learn. Thanks to this board, I will negotiate for a different price.
Well I say the going price for all night with a girl from D'Latin is always 1000 pesos (same for Haitians). Only a newbie, a rich guy, or a fool would pay more than what I say.If there is such a thing as a "going price" it would be one that both sides would quickly accept and feel happy with their night's work. My guess is that 1000 pesos is on the lower side of the mean negotiated price for all-nighters.
Quite honestly I have no idea what the "going rate" for an all-nighter found at D'Latin would be, but I don't think the name of the bar where you meet the woman has any effect on the price if there is no salida or house fee. I imagine the price would be affected by a number of variables including how desirable the woman is, the time of the night, how many potential customers are around, the day of the week, how much the monger wants that particular girl and that girl only, and other factors, like whether the girl has a place to sleep. Of course if you just decide that you won't pay more than 1000, bait your hook, and see what you can land, that is fine too.
Mr Enternational
08-02-13, 20:41
If there is such a thing as a "going price" it would be one that both sides would quickly accept and feel happy with their night's work.Exactly Frannie. There is nothing carved in stone. I have heard of people paying everything from 0 to 4000 pesos. The fact of the matter is that fair exchange is no robbery. Nobody should have a problem with what anyone else paid if the two parties who agreed on it don't have a problem with it. I vow not to let what another monger pays infringe on my game. Speaking of the same girl, you may get her for 2500 on Monday, then I come along on Tuesday and get her for 1500, then the next guy comes along on Wednesday and gets her for free. There may be no rhyme or reason; shit just works that way sometimes.
(CV, I was not calling you a fool. I was just clowning on Sebans for expressing that his way was the right way. There is more than one way to skin a cat, said the professional cat skinner.)
ReadyToGetOnIt
08-02-13, 21:17
Heading back to my other home (Sosua) in a couple of weeks, and with all of this crackdown stuff going on, where does one get a good massage anymore since all the Haitian places closed down? I don't mean a rub and tug. The tug would be a bonus. I'm burnt out from working, and I need a real massage. Extras would be a bonus.
Thanks in advance, brothers.
I appreciate the member's feedback, and will definitely take good advice to heart, but calling me a fool is not necessary. We are all on the same team. The previous reports indicated overnights are 3000 pesos. Live and learn. Thanks to this board, I will negotiate for a different price.Not need to negotiate or ask how much she want to a girl in Sosua. This is putting yourself in a inferior position and make her feel as a prostitute. Just tell her how much you are going to give her on your way to your place or don't tell her anything and just give 2000 in the morning.
That's my way, But I never make the girl feel as a prostitute. And never take her I feel she is a hardened professional.
Yup, and as the pictures from Sosua News show, the section of Pedro Clissante between Dr. Rosen and Ayuntamiento is now two-way instead of one making it a bit easier for motoconchos coming from the west end of Pedro Clissante to get to the main block of bars or the beach without a long detour.Like that ever stopped them!
Must be hot in there:Damn, is that Passions Peter?
Well I say the going price for all night with a girl from D'Latin is always 1000 pesos (same for Haitians). Only a newbie, a rich guy, or a fool would pay more than what I say.This is what my average $1,000 peso TLN looks like. I'm not a fancy big spender type, but I do like real hair.
SavePros321
08-03-13, 02:24
Most D'Latins girls don't do TLN, they can make triple the money doing 3 St in a night.Apparently Sebans has been going to a different D'Latins in a different Sosua. I especially like his advice about "do not negotiate because you will make the chica feel like a prostitute", LMBAO. You already have to worry about getting extorted by cops. Now he wants you to "don't say shit about money until in the morning" and risk enraging a puta who turns your hotel room upside down because she feels she's been swindled!
Frannie, C Pooter, what are your thoughts on this "No Negotiation" strategy brilliantly laid out by Sebans?
ConquerorVal
08-03-13, 02:41
Nobody should have a problem with what anyone else paid if the two parties who agreed on it don't have a problem with it.You're right Mr. E. That is my philosophy, and I appreciate your postscript
After spending time in the DR it is always hell going home I get my confidence built up really high by the chica's being so easy to get with then I go home on cloud 9 thinking maybe I really do still have it then the 1st hot chick I think I have vibes with I go for it just to be shot down. That brings me back to reality where I was before with no Pussy.
Wish I was there now
Heading back to my other home (Sosua) in a couple of weeks, and with all of this crackdown stuff going on, where does one get a good massage anymore since all the Haitian places closed down? I don't mean a rub and tug. The tug would be a bonus. I'm burnt out from working, and I need a real massage. Extras would be a bonus.
Thanks in advance, brothers.M and M massage, ask for Luz Maria. Located in the plaza to the left of Banco popular.
ConquerorVal
08-03-13, 04:13
It is exactly 11:00 pm and I am getting a nice buzz from drinking brandy and listening to Reggeaton all by my lonesome before heading out to the clubs. One thing that bothers me is the younger members who comment negatively on the middle aged punters. I just crossed the 50 year border. Runner, good shape, ex frat boy and I read some of the comments about the drooling middle aged guys. Now, these guys probably never paid for pussy in their 20s or 30s. They had to work hard and get it free, especially in North America. They get the last laugh. They look at the young guys and think, I never paid for this. People get married, get stressful jobs, gain weight, loose family members. Shit / life happens. There was no internet, cheap flights so all I am saying is, if you are lucky to live long enough to middle age, show some respect and no ageist remarks. In Asia, older guys are viewed positively, and even here in Sosua no one asked my age even when I asked how old the chica was. This is very much a North American phenomenon-the ageist thing! That sucks. I think my Haittian girl just tried to contact me, and my wife and daughter are missing me. Life is complicated, short and good-as it should be.
SavePros321
08-03-13, 04:22
M and M massage, ask for Luz Maria. Located in the plaza to the left of Banco popular.I second that. M&M has been consistent with having the best legit massages.
ReadyToGetOnIt
08-03-13, 05:34
After spending time in the DR it is always hell going home I get my confidence built up really high by the chica's being so easy to get with then I go home on cloud 9 thinking maybe I really do still have it then the 1st hot chick I think I have vibes with I go for it just to be shot down. That brings me back to reality where I was before with no Pussy.
Wish I was there nowIn my days of going to Hedonism in Negril, we would refer to the leaving of paradise (Hedo) as DIF. Dreaded island fever. That shitty feeling you have as you realize you're going back to hell. I mean reality!
ReadyToGetOnIt
08-03-13, 05:37
M and M massage, ask for Luz Maria. Located in the plaza to the left of Banco popular.Thanks. Is she good looking, and does she do extras?
ReadyToGetOnIt
08-03-13, 05:57
It is exactly 11:00 pm and I am getting a nice buzz from drinking brandy and listening to Reggeaton all by my lonesome before heading out to the clubs. One thing that bothers me is the younger members who comment negatively on the middle aged punters. I just crossed the 50 year border. Runner, good shape, ex frat boy and I read some of the comments about the drooling middle aged guys. Now, these guys probably never paid for pussy in their 20s or 30s. They had to work hard and get it free, especially in North America. They get the last laugh. They look at the young guys and think, I never paid for this. People get married, get stressful jobs, gain weight, loose family members. Shit / life happens. There was no internet, cheap flights so all I am saying is, if you are lucky to live long enough to middle age, show some respect and no ageist remarks...Apologies in advance for including the whole quote. Hard to edit on my phone.
What he said.
You're spot on with everything you said. I didn't pay for it years ago either, or so I thought, as most of us do. I paid with time, which back then didn't have the same value it has today. I have very little of it now, and spending it bullshitting a chick to get the panties ranks waay down on my list.
Now, I have an enlightened perspective. I'm not paying for pussy. I'm paying for the privilege of sending you away when I'm done. No worries about busting a nut, and then trying to figure out how to get you gone, so I can get a good nights sleep. I paid for you to leave already.
Not need to negotiate or ask how much she want to a girl in Sosua. This is putting yourself in a inferior position and make her feel as a prostitute. Just tell her how much you are going to give her on your way to your place or don't tell her anything and just give 2000 in the morning.
That's my way, But I never make the girl feel as a prostitute. And never take her I feel she is a hardened professional.Sebans, I don't know how much of a veteran you are. Not telling her a rate before you take her to your room can mean disaster. Here are two examples why:
1) Once I a took a girl TLN without deciding a rate. After 1 hr and 1st pop she demanded 2,500 pesos. I was willing to pay 1,500 but she was good enough for 2,000 in my opinion. In any case I did not like the fact the fact that I was being robbed. So I resisted and the thing escalated into blows and shouting in my room. She attempted to damage my electronics and other personal items and this could have cost me $1,500 for items such as my iPad, laptop etc. Any case. I tried to cool down the situation but I had sent this puta into full-blown combat mode. She stopped throwing blows at me, threw the 1,500 pesos in my face and threatened to send the mafioso on me. She challenged me to walk Pedro Clisante at night. In the heat of the moment I kicked her out of the room. Then I thought the situation over. The difference we were arguing over was $25 or so. I did not want to get stabbed in a foreign country over lunch money so I went to street outside my hotel where she still was standing around. She saw me and I gave her the money and she immediately apologized and hugged me and kissed me. I got a lot more mileage out of this situation than I paid for. Free sex, a tour of Sosua and nearby places, etc. And general GFE the following day with free sex etc. However the situation could have been bad. E. G. What if she had not decided to wait outside my hotel? In general it is best to set expectations before the salida.
2) Exactly opposite situation: I picked up a girl in Classicos who seemed to be very depressed and she was dressed more ordinarily than the other putas. After partying for 6 days I had seen all the chicks and this girl was a new one so I went for her. Bought her a drink and she kept telling me how nice a guy I was etc. Etc. I cut the crap and took her to my room. She told me that she cannot spend full night me because she has to get back to her kid. I did not mind that at all. Back in the room she was a good kisser and decent GFE. Not so good at foreplay etc. But was willing to do BBBJ but I declined. She had a bit of hair down there and I am not talking about just a landing strip but also a mid-sized airport here. After that she asked me if I wanted to enter her. As I reached for a condom she told me we did not need one as she was using pills. I declined again and the first thought that came to my mind was. WTF! After 20-30 minutes of sex in some positions I came. It was not that enjoyable as she did not seem to be into it. In any case as she was dressing up she leaned in to kiss. And she asked me "will I see you tomorrow?". I replied "maybe" and she seemed quite disappointed by my reply. She got back to that angry, depressed self that she looked like earlier at the club. I knew this girl had problems but did not ask. Experience has taught me not to get involved with puta troubles. So as she was dressing herself I left something like 1,200 pesos on the table next to her phone, purse, etc. As she left she did not pick up the money but asked me for money for taxi. I pointed to the money on the table and she walked over and picked up 100 pesos or something and left the rest there. I told her the entire amount was for her. She did not understand. I explained again and I could see the anger coming on to her face. She shouted at me "What do you think I am? Do you think I am a prostitute?" She spat at me (really. First time I have been on the receiving end) and threw even the taxi money in my face and walked away in a huff. She was actually a normal girl and I had treated her like a prositute. I followed her and convinced her to keep 500 pesos. Making excuses such as 'clothes for your kid', etc. Got her a taxi and handed the driver the taxi fare and told him to take her home safely etc.
A lot of the experiences have been ok but these two stories reflect the spectrum of trouble one can get into when you do not decide upon a rate beforehand.
Hello O, nice pics, thanks. Any chance for contact info? Love those boobs. Much obliged.I know what you like, bro. I would probably have to break my 1,000 peso rule on her. She got some skills.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x104xjm_dominican-poison-mizz-izzy-luscious_redband?search_algo=2
heading back to my other home (sosua) in a couple of weeks, and with all of this crackdown stuff going on, where does one get a good massage anymore since all the haitian places closed down? i don't mean a rub and tug.actually you would not have gotten a decent massage at any of the haitian places as none of them had trained massage therapists. there is a girl called yosmari in the delfin building directly in front of the large playero supermarket who does a decent massage, also kika massage, or m&m massage, as mentioned. another place i don't remember the name, but it is close to the back entrance to casa marina, at the bottom of the hill. of course the quality of massage changes all the time with the turnover of employees, so best to find a girl who does it the way that makes you feel good and then stick with her.
Apologies in advance for including the whole quote. Hard to edit on my phone.
What he said.
You're spot on with everything you said. I didn't pay for it years ago either, or so I thought, as most of us do. I paid with time, which back then didn't have the same value it has today. I have very little of it now, and spending it bullshitting a chick to get the panties ranks waay down on my list.
Now, I have an enlightened perspective. I'm not paying for pussy. I'm paying for the privilege of sending you away when I'm done. No worries about busting a nut, and then trying to figure out how to get you gone, so I can get a good nights sleep. I paid for you to leave already.I agree too. I think I was 48 the first time I paid for sex and the reason was that I was able to get something that I could not get for free at that point in my life-casual sex with a beautiful younger woman-though I could still have had it for free with the cougars or the fatties. I think the exact amount that a man will be willing to pay depends on the width of the gap between what he can get for free and what he has to pay for. Right now I have an attractive young live-in and can get fairly attractive thirty-something Dominicanas for more-or-less free, so there is little incentive to pay unless I am seeking a specific kind of experience that would be hard to get.
SavePros321
08-03-13, 16:29
You're spot on with everything you said. I didn't pay for it years ago either, or so I thought, as most of us do. I paid with time, which back then didn't have the same value it has today. I have very little of it now, and spending it bullshitting a chick to get the panties ranks waay down on my list.
Now, I have an enlightened perspective. I'm not paying for pussy. I'm paying for the privilege of sending you away when I'm done. No worries about busting a nut, and then trying to figure out how to get you gone, so I can get a good nights sleep. I paid for you to leave already.+1.
This guy gets it! Free pussy is usually not free at all if it is costing you gas, time, and two or three dinner dates just to get in her pants. Most of us are working professionals, so time is something we never have enough of. Paying for the priveledge of sex is far more convenient and cost effective for the majority of us.
Manizales911
08-03-13, 19:21
+1.
This guy gets it! Free pussy is usually not free at all if it is costing you gas, time, and two or three dinner dates just to get in her pants. Most of us are working professionals, so time is something we never have enough of. Paying for the priveledge of sex is far more convenient and cost effective for the majority of us.+2. I have the time but don't want to waste my time, I'd rather be doing other things with my time.
ForceSteeler
08-03-13, 21:11
+1.
This guy gets it! Free pussy is usually not free at all if it is costing you gas, time, and two or three dinner dates just to get in her pants. Most of us are working professionals, so time is something we never have enough of. Paying for the priveledge of sex is far more convenient and cost effective for the majority of us.We all pay for sex directly or indirectly, and indirectly usually cost a lot more. Most guys are getting killed with child support and it's an expensive nut that you have to make payments for the next 18 years.
Sebans, I don't know how much of a veteran you are. Not telling her a rate before you take her to your room can mean disaster. Here are two examples why:
A lot of the experiences have been ok but these two stories reflect the spectrum of trouble one can get into when you do not decide upon a rate beforehand.Yes, not telling her can be a problem and she can even think you should give her more and it happened me once.
Sometime, when in bed, during the action, the girl suddenly. Worried you might not have understood she was there for the money- is herself that ask if you are going to give her something after,
And once I told them, they felt at ease again.
But I like to pick up one girl and build a little of intimacy first, checking how she respond when I embrace her or give her a little kiss on the lips, and dropping her with an excuse if I feel she not as she should be.
+2. I have the time but don't want to waste my time, I'd rather be doing other things with my time.+3 I like my spare time alone, married twice, been there, etc.
Hey guys,
This is not meant to be a double post but I put in the Santo Domingo forum that ill be in Sosua around the 24th I'm a relative newb but from reading the forum it doesn't seem to matter. I went to Caberete once and visited Sosua twice (but I was with my girl). Going alone this time and I'm going for the gusto so to speak. Anybody going to be in the area?You will notice things by yourself that you never noticed with your girl.
Don't worry if you would like male conversation it will not be hard to find but I will be hoping that you will have no need for it due to many chica's or 1 great chica taking all your time.
You will notice things by yourself that you never noticed with your girl.
Don't worry if you would like male conversation it will not be hard to find but I will be hoping that you will have no need for it due to many chica's or 1 great chica taking all your time.Thanks for the response sir I appreciate it. I have a timeshare option and may stay at the Coconut Palms resort in Caberete. I stayed there last night and the accommodations were sufficient. I called and asked if they would allow a "friend" that I met (actually hoping to find and meet) into the resort. They said if they have an ID but no prostitutes allowed. Has anyone stayed here before is there any issue with bringing in the chicas?
Charles Pooter
08-04-13, 00:37
ill be in Sosua around the 24th . Going alone this time . Anybody going to be in the area?I presume from this that you are not staying in one of the usual monger hotels. If a loner, good places to meet guys are:
(1) Rocky's Bar for late breakfast from 11. 30am to 1. 00pm. Ask the manager Rick to introduce you to helpful ex-pats and other experienced mongers.
(2) On the Beach, assuming decent weather, from 2. 30pm (sometimes earlier) at casitas#144 (Ruby's Vulkan Bar) and #145 (Siempre Sol). I am not sure if I got those numbers exactly right, but that is near enough to find them. Usually a few ex-pats and regulars hanging out at these two adjacent bars if you need some pointers for you trip.
BadBear2000
08-04-13, 01:22
Sebans, I don't know how much of a veteran you are. Not telling her a rate before you take her to your room can mean disaster. Here are two examples why:
1) Once I a took a girl TLN without deciding a rate. After 1 hr and 1st pop she demanded 2, 500 pesos. I was willing to pay 1, 500 but she was good enough for 2, 000 in my opinion. In any case I did not like the fact the fact that I was being robbed. So I resisted and the thing escalated into blows and shouting in my room. She attempted to damage my electronics and other personal items and this could have cost me $1, 500 for items such as my iPad, laptop etc. Any case. I tried to cool down the situation but I had sent this puta into full-blown combat mode. She stopped throwing blows at me, threw the 1, 500 pesos in my face and threatened to send the mafioso on me. She challenged me to walk Pedro Clisante at night. In the heat of the moment I kicked her out of the room. Then I thought the situation over. The difference we were arguing over was $25 or so. I did not want to get stabbed in a foreign country over lunch money so I went to street outside my hotel where she still was standing around. She saw me and I gave her the money and she immediately apologized and hugged me and kissed me. I got a lot more mileage out of this situation than I paid for. Free sex, a tour of Sosua and nearby places, etc. And general GFE the following day with free sex etc. However the situation could have been bad. E. G. What if she had not decided to wait outside my hotel? In general it is best to set expectations before the salida.
2) Exactly opposite situation: I picked up a girl in Classicos who seemed to be very depressed and she was dressed more ordinarily than the other putas. After partying for 6 days I had seen all the chicks and this girl was a new one so I went for her. Bought her a drink and she kept telling me how nice a guy I was etc. Etc. I cut the crap and took her to my room. She told me that she cannot spend full night me because she has to get back to her kid. I did not mind that at all. Back in the room she was a good kisser and decent GFE. Not so good at foreplay etc. But was willing to do BBBJ but I declined. She had a bit of hair down there and I am not talking about just a landing strip but also a mid-sized airport here. After that she asked me if I wanted to enter her. As I reached for a condom she told me we did not need one as she was using pills. I declined again and the first thought that came to my mind was. WTF! After 20-30 minutes of sex in some positions I came. It was not that enjoyable as she did not seem to be into it. In any case as she was dressing up she leaned in to kiss. And she asked me "will I see you tomorrow?". I replied "maybe" and she seemed quite disappointed by my reply. She got back to that angry, depressed self that she looked like earlier at the club. I knew this girl had problems but did not ask. Experience has taught me not to get involved with puta troubles. So as she was dressing herself I left something like 1, 200 pesos on the table next to her phone, purse, etc. As she left she did not pick up the money but asked me for money for taxi. I pointed to the money on the table and she walked over and picked up 100 pesos or something and left the rest there. I told her the entire amount was for her. She did not understand. I explained again and I could see the anger coming on to her face. She shouted at me "What do you think I am? Do you think I am a prostitute?" She spat at me (really. First time I have been on the receiving end) and threw even the taxi money in my face and walked away in a huff. She was actually a normal girl and I had treated her like a prositute. I followed her and convinced her to keep 500 pesos. Making excuses such as 'clothes for your kid', etc. Got her a taxi and handed the driver the taxi fare and told him to take her home safely etc.
A lot of the experiences have been ok but these two stories reflect the spectrum of trouble one can get into when you do not decide upon a rate beforehand.In Haiti and the DR I would just kick their asses out. I never negotiated anything until I received the service because it may be worth more than I negotiated or it may be terrible. I never had a problem going to the security guy in the hotel and tell them to throw the ***** out. I never worried about her getting me mugged either. They are just blow harps trying to scare you. I have actually pulled up in front of police and told them I gave the girl a ride and now she want get out of my car. Had a policeman pull a girl out of the car by the hair
Thanks. Is she good looking, and does she do extras?Luz Maria is very pretty and speaks reasonable english. M and M is a professional massage centre, extras are not offered but take-out may be available. When I am in Sosua I go there every day for a massage.
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased. The Hotel is very poorly insulated so its hard to get a good nights sleep.
Lakeside32
08-04-13, 04:25
I know what you like, bro. I would probably have to break my 1, 000 peso rule on her. She got some skills.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x104xjm_dominican-poison-mizz-izzy-luscious_redband?search_algo=2We've been on the hunt for her like Moby Dick. The intel always leads to a dead end, we've had guys that lived in the north and south of the island tryin to find her. I'm guessing she's in NYC, can't see a chick that thick and healthy living in the DR, but if so she has to have others like her, ie. Sisters, cousins, aunts. LOL.
Lakeside32
08-04-13, 04:40
Yes, not telling her can be a problem and she can even think you should give her more and it happened me once.
Sometime, when in bed, during the action, the girl suddenly. Worried you might not have understood she was there for the money- is herself that ask if you are going to give her something after,
And once I told them, they felt at ease again.
But I like to pick up one girl and build a little of intimacy first, checking how she respond when I embrace her or give her a little kiss on the lips, and dropping her with an excuse if I feel she not as she should be.Recently I've made the same mistake. I violated several rules nonetheless; having too much to drink anywhere but maybe Blackbeards can spell disaster. It's crazy how they pull that 2500 figure out of their ass , I'm guessing they try to pose as one of the hi class chicas listed on "the menu". I was pissed but I had to charge it to the game for being stupid.
Interesting. Female goes swimming with her Dominican Sanky Panky in Sosua Beach at 4 am and winds up drowning to death. She was reportedly drunk: http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2754-muere-presuntamente-ahoga-una-turista-en-horas-de-la-noche-en-playa-sosua
SavePros321
08-04-13, 05:19
Interesting. Female goes swimming with her Dominican Sanky Panky in Sosua Beach at 4 am and winds up drowning to death. She was reportedly drunk:
http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/2754-muere-presuntamente-ahoga-una-turista-en-horas-de-la-noche-en-playa-sosuaYou should post this over at D R 1 to give those old hags a scare, LOL. All they do is talk shit about male sex tourist while trying to deny why they come to the DR so often.
It is exactly 11:00 pm and I am getting a nice buzz from drinking brandy and listening to Reggeaton all by my lonesome before heading out to the clubs. One thing that bothers me is the younger members who comment negatively on the middle aged punters. I just crossed the 50 year border. Runner, good shape, ex frat boy and I read some of the comments about the drooling middle aged guys. Now, these guys probably never paid for pussy in their 20s or 30s. They had to work hard and get it free, especially in North America. They get the last laugh. They look at the young guys and think, I never paid for this. People get married, get stressful jobs, gain weight, loose family members. Shit / life happens. There was no internet, cheap flights so all I am saying is, if you are lucky to live long enough to middle age, show some respect and no ageist remarks. In Asia, older guys are viewed positively, and even here in Sosua no one asked my age even when I asked how old the chica was. This is very much a North American phenomenon-the ageist thing! That sucks. I think my Haittian girl just tried to contact me, and my wife and daughter are missing me. Life is complicated, short and good-as it should be.Amen. I'm in your boat except for the "good shape" bit. Rarely monger these days for many reasons, but really enjoyed your post. Thanks.
SteviWonder13
08-04-13, 10:42
I presume from this that you are not staying in one of the usual monger hotels. If a loner, good places to meet guys are:
(1) Rocky's Bar for late breakfast from 11. 30am to 1. 00pm. Ask the manager Rick to introduce you to helpful ex-pats and other experienced mongers.
(2) On the Beach, assuming decent weather, from 2. 30pm (sometimes earlier) at casitas#144 (Ruby's Vulkan Bar) and #145 (Siempre Sol). I am not sure if I got those numbers exactly right, but that is near enough to find them. Usually a few ex-pats and regulars hanging out at these two adjacent bars if you need some pointers for you trip.I will be there 25. The first nights I will stay at Don Antonio. At daytime I go to the beach Siempre Sol with Herman and Tropica with Jos.
In the evening most time in Bar Central. I think that are good places to meet girls.
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased. The Hotel is very poorly insulated so its hard to get a good nights sleep.That is what you are likely to find at the New Garden Hotel. Not always, but they tend to get that kind of clientele. The good news is that all the other hotels are much less likely to be playing host to this demographic at the same time you are there. It is not always wise to pay for a week upfront, because they are very unlikely to refund your money if you want to depart early.
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased. This is the prime reason why I avoid this spot. Back in the day, it wasn't as bad but the crowd you described has increased considerably in Sosua. Too bad because the rooms are decent and I used to like to eat breakfast there.
I must be getting old because I can't relate to the Timberland boots in 90 degree weather look, or the dudes that brag about how many days in a row they popped bottles in D'Latin.
To each his own I guess!
I enjoy the expansion of my horizons that my cloistered suburban life does not afford me and find it ironic that I relate to my fellow countrymen of all stripes more closely abroad that I do back home. Having said that, I do realize that it can get wild and crazy at all hours but have found that it does not always originate from any particular demographic and that a good natured "shut the F. Up!" usually quietens things down.
The flip side is that, when you're not dipping your wick (which is pretty often at my age!) , there is no shortage of newly acquired "brodders from another muthas" around to hang out with, compare notes and exchange intel. The bonus for me is that I can work on getting schooled in, and acquiring an appreciation of, rap music which, after years of being stuck in a 60's time warp, fascinates me.
Peace
That is what you are likely to find at the New Garden Hotel. Not always, but they tend to get that kind of clientele. The good news is that all the other hotels are much less likely to be playing host to this demographic at the same time you are there. It is not always wise to pay for a week upfront, because they are very unlikely to refund your money if you want to depart early.
Charles Pooter
08-04-13, 15:45
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased. The Hotel is very poorly insulated so its hard to get a good nights sleep.I have no sympathy. If you read this (or any other board) you would know there is a risk of that happening. (I say "risk", because it is not always like that there. You take pot luck). Plenty of other good places to stay. I am not blasting those guys. If that is their idea of a good time and the management welcomes their custom, so be it. You and I can always go elsewhere.
If people are spending a lot of hard-earned cash on a vacation, it is worth investing some hours on research first. If you had read up here or elsewhere you would have gone somewhere else.
Tiradentes
08-04-13, 15:51
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased. The Hotel is very poorly insulated so its hard to get a good nights sleep.Be Warned.
Rio De Janeiro changed for ever when these type of people started going there in flocks. The City started to enforce its dormant anti prostitution laws (yeh, they do exist in Brazil!) when these thugs tried to turn the affluent Copacabana neighborhood into S. Central LA or Harlem. As a result, sex clubs were turned into museum, massage parlors into theaters, etc. (get the irony!). Those places that were left open still get a monthly 'visit' from the popo.
Will Sosua be next? Time will tell.
Charles Pooter
08-04-13, 15:56
I have a timeshare option and may stay at the Coconut Palms resort in Caberete.Is that the one about a mile before central Cabarete coming from Sosua? Up a slight slope? If so, hardly an ideal mongering location but if you have already paid for it.
If it is there, you will need a rental car or spend a fortune on taxis. Normally I recommend using publicos everywhere but, if it is the place I am thinking, I have a friend living there and she has been mugged twice (and slightly injured one of the times) while waiting for and getting out of publicos on that lonely stretch of road.
Is that the one about a mile before central Cabarete coming from Sosua? Up a slight slope? If so, hardly an ideal mongering location but if you have already paid for it.
If it is there, you will need a rental car or spend a fortune on taxis. Normally I recommend using publicos everywhere but, if it is the place I am thinking, I have a friend living there and she has been mugged twice (and slightly injured one of the times) while waiting for and getting out of publicos on that lonely stretch of road.Thats the one, stayed there twice. Its a nice place, with a big pool and good food. You can have girls there, they need to check their cedulars. I did a report on this place years ago. The second visit they upgraded me to the penthouse that had a wrap-around balcony and sea views. They gave one of the girls leaving the wrong ID and created a storm. They didn't seem to care and the girl without a ID was with me.
I always walked down to the road and motochonchos pass every minute. You can ride to Sosua for 50p-100p.
Be Warned.
Rio De Janeiro changed for ever when these type of people started going there in flocks. The City started to enforce its dormant anti prostitution laws (yeh, they do exist in Brazil!) when these thugs tried to turn the affluent Copacabana neighborhood into S. Central LA or Harlem. As a result, sex clubs were turned into museum, massage parlors into theaters, etc. (get the irony!). Those places that were left open still get a monthly 'visit' from the popo.
Will Sosua be next? Time will tell.Oh! It had nothing to do with Brazil getting the World cup in 2014, and the Olympics in 2016? I'm sure they wanted the world to view Brazil as a sex city. Blame it on the brothers if you want, but 99% of the people know it was because of getting the World cup and Olympics.
SavePros321
08-04-13, 18:01
This is the prime reason why I avoid this spot. Back in the day, it wasn't as bad but the crowd you described has increased considerably in Sosua. Too bad because the rooms are decent and I used to like to eat breakfast there.
I must be getting old because I can't relate to the Timberland boots in 90 degree weather look, or the dudes that brag about how many days in a row they popped bottles in D'Latin.
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased. The Hotel is very poorly insulated so its hard to get a good nights sleep.
Chris Rock broke this down years ago (Bring the Pain):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
"Grand Opening, Grand Closing", LOL!
Mr Enternational
08-04-13, 18:17
I must be getting old because I can't relate to the Timberland boots in 90 degree weather look, or the dudes that brag about how many days in a row they popped bottles in D'Latin.I can sympathize with you on that. Our first time in Sosua, one of my wingmen, who is actually Haitian, had on Timberland boots. We clowned his ass. I used to have a girlfriend in Panama. Her and a lot of other women in Panama would wear boots (even furry ones) as hot as it was there. And when she came to visit me in Atlanta, of course she had to shop for boots. A couple of weeks ago I was a the mall with my girl and her sister in Higuey and to my confusion my girl was eyeing some boots. The bottom line is that people no longer dress for the weather, they dress for fashion. We are just old now, and not with the times.
My brother's first time in Thailand we went into the club and I splurged and bought 2 bottles of Remy for $100 each to share with my friends. The only feeling I got was that of being $200 lighter in the wallet (especially since I already have a room full of alcohol). Needless to say, I won't be doing any shit like that again.
ConquerorVal
08-04-13, 19:15
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Its hard to get a good nights sleep.I don't know. I don't mind the wannabees. Honestly, I did not come to Sosua to sleep, but to party. I have missed three fucking breakfasts in the row, because the chicas would not leave before 11:00 am. Truly, I don't think the breakfast here is good value, if they cannot serve it at least until noon, considering the clientele. If you want a TLN from D'Latins you don't get here until 3:00 in the morning. I was up at 6:30 this am, after my second Haitian encounter left, and they do not serve the food until 8:00 am. WTF-should be 7:00 for those who get a chance for only couple of hours of sleep. I guess I did not come to Sosua to eat either. The American brothers in spite of their macho shit, are all friendly. I am more amused by it than annoyed. But it sounds like I am a minority. I was disappointed to hear what is happening in Brazil. Are these the same kind of guys-LA / NYC rap emulators.
I am still at NG, and my biggest disappointment is the chicas in here. I thought there would be a greater variety and it would be easier for freelancers to come in. I have seen the same girls all the time. Some of the other girls are outside the gate and as I am writing this on my porch a chica is waving at me from the door. Looks good from here, but got to save my leche. The pool in here in my opinion is a waste. I will not use it, as there is a beach five minutes from here. The security here is both annoying and professional. I guess it is to protect the clients, as definitely some of the girls are scammers, and I already have had my experiences in the first few days in here. I assumed the security would be at night only, and the girls could come in free on their own will during the day without the border police. I have mixed feelings about this. So don't come to NG for the chicas. On the positive side the rooms are nice, water is warm, three porn channels, great staff, and location is perfect. Sorry, maybe I should have put this in the Sosua hotels thread. Just wanted to comment on the Drake / JayZ followers.
SavePros321
08-04-13, 19:32
I don't know. I don't mind the wannabees. Honestly, I did not come to Sosua to sleep, but to party. I have missed three fucking breakfasts in the row, because the chicas would not leave before 11:00 am. Truly, I don't think the breakfast here is good value, if they cannot serve it at least until noon, considering the clientele. If you want a TLN from D'Latins you don't get here until 3:00 in the morning. I was up at 6:30 this am, after my second Haitian encounter left, and they do not serve the food until 8:00 am. WTF-should be 7:00 for those who get a chance for only couple of hours of sleep. I guess I did not come to Sosua to eat either. The American brothers in spite of their macho shit, are all friendly. I am more amused by it than annoyed. But it sounds like I am a minority. I was disappointed to hear what is happening in Brazil. Are these the same kind of guys-LA / NYC rap emulators.
I am still at NG, and my biggest disappointment is the chicas in here. I thought there would be a greater variety and it would be easier for freelancers to come in. I have seen the same girls all the time. Some of the other girls are outside the gate and as I am writing this on my porch a chica is waving at me from the door. Looks good from here, but got to save my leche. The pool in here in my opinion is a waste. I will not use it, as there is a beach five minutes from here. The security here is both annoying and professional. I guess it is to protect the clients, as definitely some of the girls are scammers, and I already have had my experiences in the first few days in here. I assumed the security would be at night only, and the girls could come in free on their own will during the day without the border police. I have mixed feelings about this. So don't come to NG for the chicas. On the positive side the rooms are nice, water is warm, three porn channels, great staff, and location is perfect. Sorry, maybe I should have put this in the Sosua hotels thread. Just wanted to comment on the Drake / JayZ followers.Most people stay at New Garden because of it's proximity to the Pedro Clisante. The Chicas and the pool are just add ons. Mostly no one uses either (the chicas there or the pool), but they are convenient to have in case you do decide to partake. The breakfast at New Garden is some of the best you will eat in all of Sosua. Even when I stayed at Terra Linda I would walk down to NG every morning and pay to have breakfast there. The free breakfast at Terra Linda is terrible.
Is that the one about a mile before central Cabarete coming from Sosua? Up a slight slope? If so, hardly an ideal mongering location but if you have already paid for it.
If it is there, you will need a rental car or spend a fortune on taxis. Normally I recommend using publicos everywhere but, if it is the place I am thinking, I have a friend living there and she has been mugged twice (and slightly injured one of the times) while waiting for and getting out of publicos on that lonely stretch of road.You know what I think you're right. I haven't paid for it I just have the option and I thought I might be saving money. It would be 250 for 7 days and I figured being a little bit outside the action would be beneficial for getting non-pros specifically picking up in the stores and bars etc. I snuck away and visited CMP once after asking my cabbie where the chicas were when my girl was sleep but it wasn't really my cup of team but I prefer a more intimate encounter. Have you guys had any luck picking up in Janet's or the large grocery store in Sosua? I saw some beautiful employees in there last time and I was so frustrated I was with my girl at the time. I didn't know what Sosua was at the time but this message board has definitely opened my eyes. I think I will actually stay closer to the action since with cabs or renting car I may not actually be saving staying in a resort that's a bit of a haul from everything.
I presume from this that you are not staying in one of the usual monger hotels. If a loner, good places to meet guys are:
(1) Rocky's Bar for late breakfast from 11. 30am to 1. 00pm. Ask the manager Rick to introduce you to helpful ex-pats and other experienced mongers.
(2) On the Beach, assuming decent weather, from 2. 30pm (sometimes earlier) at casitas#144 (Ruby's Vulkan Bar) and #145 (Siempre Sol). I am not sure if I got those numbers exactly right, but that is near enough to find them. Usually a few ex-pats and regulars hanging out at these two adjacent bars if you need some pointers for you trip.Thanks for the reply I appreciate it I should be there the morning of the 25th.
I will be there 25. The first nights I will stay at Don Antonio. At daytime I go to the beach Siempre Sol with Herman and Tropica with Jos.
In the evening most time in Bar Central. I think that are good places to meet girls.Alright this sounds good hopefully I'll run into you.
ConquerorVal
08-04-13, 20:54
I think that are good places to meet girls.If you mean, meeting girls in a club setting brothel then definitely. The great thing is that you get to see all the lovelies available, just standing there and looking pretty. The set up in Rumba does not appeal to me, so if you like Schnitzel (like I do) sit at the S? Stube place across D'Latins and watch the scene unfold. Its quite amazing, especially if you come from a sexually repressed country (which are most). Sit back, watch and sip on your Presidente brew.
In spite of my age, this is the first vacation trip I have taken on my own, and I cannot tell you how liberating it is. All my previous travels have been with my family. Being an introvert in nature, I thought it would be difficult, but pretty well all the mongers, are friendly and appear to be approachable. Honestly, I did not come here to bond with my male compatriots. I don't think I have held a conversation with a guy (outside of the diving instructors) for longer than few minutes, and I have been here for five days. It is all about independence, confidence (don't even need much of that in here) and the chicas. This place is perfect for single travellers, (and South East Asia). As one of the posters said let the chicas do all the talking (or crotch grabbing and grinding). Hold on to your wallet, pick your girl, and do the nasty. No Spanish, social skills required. The chicas will do all the work for you. You are guaranteed to get as much pussy as you can handle.
Thanks for the response sir I appreciate it. I have a timeshare option and may stay at the Coconut Palms resort in Caberete. I stayed there last night and the accommodations were sufficient. I called and asked if they would allow a "friend" that I met (actually hoping to find and meet) into the resort. They said if they have an ID but no prostitutes allowed. Has anyone stayed here before is there any issue with bringing in the chicas?If they say they will let a girl that has I'd come in just tell the girl you pick to put some different clothes on. I am sure she will not have to go far to change.
I hear you about the limited breakfast hours. After a night of carousing at the bars and possibly After One and crashing at the break of dawn, you'd like to be able to get breakfast anytime you wake up like at Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok where the clientele could wake late in the afternoon and demand to be served their free specialty omelet breakfast with waffles.
Cheers
I don't know. I don't mind the wannabees. Honestly, I did not come to Sosua to sleep, but to party. I have missed three fucking breakfasts in the row, because the chicas would not leave before 11:00 am. Truly, I don't think the breakfast here is good value, if they cannot serve it at least until noon, considering the clientele. If you want a TLN from D'Latins you don't get here until 3:00 in the morning. I was up at 6:30 this am, after my second Haitian encounter left, and they do not serve the food until 8:00 am. WTF-should be 7:00 for those who get a chance for only couple of hours of sleep. I guess I did not come to Sosua to eat either. The American brothers in spite of their macho shit, are all friendly. I am more amused by it than annoyed. But it sounds like I am a minority. I was disappointed to hear what is happening in Brazil. Are these the same kind of guys-LA / NYC rap emulators...
Chris Rock broke this down years ago (Bring the Pain) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
"Grand Opening, Grand Closing", LOL!Haha, yeah. That is one of my favorites from C Rock!
I just got back from a week at New Garden and was very dissappointed.
The NYC / LA rapper wannabees were blasting rap music, smoking weed and drinking Hennessey all day long.
Management had no control over these guys and let them do what ever they pleased.If I compare the Sosua of today to what it was when I first discovered it, it was mostly older guys that were mostly white guys from the USA, Canada, and Europe there. The demographic has changed, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I take it for what it is. It is something that was predictable but not preventable. Compared to back then, the American tourists seem younger and more urban now.
You can still have a great time in Sosua but the vibe has definitely changed. I remember the music being more of a mix in spots like Clasicos (which eventually began to change) and it was a treat when we heard someone like The Game or Biggie thrown into the mix. I didn't mind this because I know Sosua is a tourist spot, but I also like hearing the local stuff, as I would in places like Trinidad, Puerto Rico or anywhere else.
Recently, I sat in Winners Circle and 99. 9% of the songs played where N this or N that or N ain't worried about nuthin. The place is definitely starting to feel more and more like Black Bike Week to me. The music in D'Latin had a bit more diversity but N this and N that was still what stuck out to me. I know I'm getting old because I didn't even hear of French Montana until I went to Sosua, LOL.
So the bottom line on NG is,"it is what it is." The people at the hotel realize Black Bike Week is in town just like the club owners do and the music has adjusted to the clientele. Everyone has made the adjustment. Now only you have to adjust.
Primarily Dominicans pop bottles of Brugal. You've seen the vids of the young urban American crews spilling Ciroc on naked girls in the pool at the villa? Yeah, Brugal isn't good enough anymore. Americans are expected to pop the Cognac, Ciroc, Moet, etc. Get with the program!
Question for you experienced Sosua mongers, are all the female bartenders in Sosua available for some fun? As in renting them for services.
I believe the ones that work at the bars on Pedro Clisante are but how about places like Bailey's for example? So far Sosua has been a lot of fun, it was close to dead today (Sunday) during the daytime as I tried looking for some action earlier in the day, but late afternoon and early evening the scene becomes more busy.
Your right, this was my first trip to DR and with experience comes knowledge.
I will not return to the New Garden again.
DeepMmpactt
08-05-13, 03:09
I have no sympathy. If you read this (or any other board) you would know there is a risk of that happening. (I say "risk", because it is not always like that there. You take pot luck). Plenty of other good places to stay. I am not blasting those guys. If that is their idea of a good time and the management welcomes their custom, so be it. You and I can always go elsewhere.
If people are spending a lot of hard-earned cash on a vacation, it is worth investing some hours on research first. If you had read up here or elsewhere you would have gone somewhere else.Couldn't agree anymore, Sir Charles you hit it, square on the m"head" people are on vacation, so they are going to let loose and let their hair "blow" back (" if they haven't lost it all by now) LOL! If you've done your research and Rtff, you would've tried Terra Linda or New Gardens (new wing) but it can get noisy there's as well, but not as much as the "old wing" I have my ticket and plan on hitting Sosua in October 12-17th, a quick 5 day trip. Hopefully someone's in the area, to say "what's up." I'll be at New Gardens and bring your "ear plugs" cause I'm loud! Ask Tomjackin his ears are still ringing. Lmao! Sosua is changing into a more main stream mongering destination. The hey-day is "completely gone. It's still an amazing place but its being transformed into a GFE, or get out your "black book" kind of place.
If you find a a "winner" get her number. My homie used to boast how he's never "watched re. Runs (bang the same chick twice). I on the other hand love a good classic re-runs like the movie "Predator" or Ice Cubes movie "Friday" I literially have watched that movie a hundred times or more. LOL! Now all of a sudden, he's keeping in contact with a few chicas via "what's app" free messaging service. And he's now telling me,"what a great idea to keep in contact with great performing chicas ahh okay!"what a concept" I m glad "HE" thought of it. So to you newbies, Sosua is priceless, go there and have fun, to get too drunk and stupid, Rtff, and you will have a blast! I 100% agree with my man Oldkool for the price and location you can't beat the value of Sosua, The hell with the nay sayyers and doom in gloom "sky is falling" negative mongers. I keep saying this is my last trip at 5 trips made. I want to explore Colombia, but maybe after this 12th trip, made to Sosua I'll finally hit Colombia.
I hate that we are talking about this topic yet again, but I just had this conversation yesterday with a friend of mine. He made the comment that the powers that be, are upset about the "young black guys who are taking over Sosua". Can one of you guys explain this to me. What is the difference?
15 years ago, white guys from Europe and the US went to the DR and drank alcohol, went to the beach and fucked Chicas. Now the demographics are young black males from the states. However, what are they doing any different than the white guys? The answer? NOTHING! Black men go to Sosua to hit the beach, drink alcohol and fuck chicas!
Its the same stupid bullshit I used to hear about Rio. Oddly, nobody said how Copa was being destroyed when the white guys used to drink beer, fuck garotas and listen to AC / DC all night in Club Help. But when black men bought bottles of champagne, fucked garotas and listened to hip hop, all of a sudden assholes came out of the woodwork to say how Copa is now ruined!
One last point, For all the dumb asses on the board. Help was closed because Rio got the World Cup and the Games, it had absolutely nothing to do with the color of the sex tourists that went to Help.
Now the demographics are young black males from the states. However, what are they doing any different than the white guys? The answer? http://youtu.be/uLhN6-gc34w
ConquerorVal
08-05-13, 03:50
"young black guys who are taking over Sosua".I agree with you 100 percent. I enjoy watching any guy having fun with a girl, because I can relate to him regardless of his race or background. Men love pussy. End of the story, and lets get along.
http://youtu.be/uLhN6-gc34wYour response is moot because of two factors.
1) There was no internet 15 years ago, when it was predominantly white men traveling. Now that there is an internet, I have seen plenty of videos that Italians and Germans have made on Rio & the DR floating around on the net. (Don't even get me started on all the videos on the Philippines and Thailand!)
2) I knew white guys who used to go to Carnival in Rio, video tape everything and then they would sell the VHS tapes back in the states as a side hustle.
So my question still stands. Why is it when white men go to foreign countries, drink alcohol and fuck exotic women, no one bats an eye. But when men of color do the SAME exact thing, all of a sudden, the world is coming to an end?
SavePros321
08-05-13, 04:41
Why is it when white men go to foreign countries, drink alcohol and fuck exotic women, no one bats an eye. But when men of color do the SAME exact thing, all of a sudden, the world is coming to an end?
As long as you are not lumping all Black men into the same category I don't see anyone having any problems with men of color. The black mongers I know do not blast rap music from their hotel balconies at all hours of the night or dress like they are fresh off the set of a rap video. The black mongers I know you would never notice them but for their skin color.
I myself as a black man do as much as I can to not draw any attention to myself while in a foreign country. Can't say the same about these younger dudes. To say there is no difference in these two types of black men is not being honest with yourself.
Who was it that posted that there was this inner city basketball coach from NY (Kenny?) that was flying these young cats from the hood down to Rio, and they were down there pants sagging, slapping around h0es and not paying them?:
Trust me when I say that Kenny definitely helped to ruin Copa! He started bringing all those young and dumb ass kids that played in his basket ball league to Rio. All of sudden Copa was flooded with 20 year olds walking around with their pants sagging off their asses! Bringing boom boxes to the beach. They were walking around filming girls like it was Memorial day weekend in Miami, regular girls, not hoes! Fucking girls and then not paying them! Getting into arguements and slapping the females! All types of ghetto shit!
The first time we saw him up in Classicos, both of my partners and I said "Damn! This motherfucker is down here now?" Sure enough 4 days later he sits next to us on the beach. Next thing you know he is bragging about how he is going to start throwing parties in Sosua for all these guys he is going to bring down. When we got back to the car, we all just started shaking our heads and saying "He has got to be the dumbest asshole that has ever been granted a fucking passport!". He spent time in a prison for doing the same shit in Rio and he hasntr learned a damn thing from the experience.
Unfortunately, Sosua has already started the transition into becoming thug central, so all Kenny can do is add more gasoline to the fire.
Your response is moot because
There was no internet 15 years ago, when it was predominantly white men traveling.Hmm. Like Chris Rock said. Open that book, LOL. There WAS internet 15 years ago. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackvoices.com
In any event, you don't have to go back 15 years. The transition to the "New Sosua" occurred much more recently. There were guys making vids all the while. For instance this vid was posted in 2006 by a foreign guy who had a website with vids http://youtu.be/iWkJuiBluI0
Matter of fact, this guy predates Cuba Dave, the big head yellow dude with glasses and all of those internet Sosua experts on the Net now. This guy might be a creep for all I know, but I give dudes like this credit for at least taking some interest in the culture: http://youtu.be/FrxEGtTQkkA
As long as you are not lumping all Black men into the same category I don't see anyone having any problems with men of color. The black mongers I know do not blast rap music from their hotel balconies at all hours of the night or dress like they are fresh off the set of a rap video. The black mongers I know you would never notice them but for their skin color.
I myself as a black man do as much as I can to not draw any attention to myself while in a foreign country. Can't say the same about these younger dudes. To say there is no difference in these two types of black men is not being honest with yourself.
Who was it that posted that there was this inner city basketball coach from NY (Kenny?) that was flying these young cats from the hood down to Rio, and they were down there pants sagging, slapping around h0es and not paying them? :And if you could show me anywhere in that post where I said that Kenny caused the closing of Help? Or any other post where I said it was because of the color of the tourists that caused Help to be closed. Kenny's era was 2001-2004, Help Disco didn't close until 2010.
Kenny did help to fuck up Rio because he brought "Young Brothas" down to Brasil who did not know how to act. EX: Not paying the girls after a session and then physically smacking them when the girls refused to leave the apartment. There is a major difference between young black men who never been out of the country and middle age men who have some life experience. Again, I can look on the internet and find young white men who acted a fool in other countries too, but the boards weren't going crazy about that.
Matter of fact, I took this picture a couple of months ago specifically for board members who always have negative things to say about how black men dress or act in Sosua. I observed a group of white men from America who had the VIP spot in DLatins. They were pouring vodka on the girls and then they started ripping each others shirts off. When security approached their table and told them to get dressed, they drunkenly tried to rip the security guards shirts off! After took the picture, I tapped my buddy on the arm and told him "You see this shit? You see how they are acting? But yet certain internet sites will complain that black men are messing up the DR by wearing Timbs or wife beaters! I wonder if any members will come on the board and lament how white men are destroying Sosua!" You will notice everyone in the picture is staring at these guys because they were acting up all night long.
And if you could show me anywhere in that post where I said that Kenny caused the closing of Help? Or any other post where I said it was because of the color of the tourists that caused Help to be closed. Kenny's era was 2001-2004, Help Disco didn't close until 2010.
Kenny did help to fuck up Rio because he brought "Young Brothas" down to Brasil who did not know how to act. EX: Not paying the girls after a session and then physically smacking them when the girls refused to leave the apartment. There is a major difference between young black men who never been out of the country and middle age men who have some life experience. Again, I can look on the internet and find young white men who acted a fool in other countries too, but the boards weren't going crazy about that..As a young black man.
Bravo, Bravo.
That's not true. The most hated and despised men in Thailand are the Brits that When they are in a vacation, don't know if it is for the new surrounding or what but they go completely crazy and star doing the most stupid and crazy things. As a result 250 of them die each year there.
"young black guys who are taking over Sosua"One historical note and this is not new information, as it has been pointed out by some of the more seasoned vets on the board, one thing that did happen with the demise of Rio and change in the demographic in Sosua is a much more hardened, short time, one hour, sport fuck mentality with the girls. So yeah, there is definitely a difference now! As others have pointed out, back in the day Sosua was much more relaxed and about TLNs. Not saying you can't get TLN, but it was the norm back then and the quality of that TLN was very good.
So what, you ask? Sosua is, what Sosua is. For the new jacks and semi new jacks all of this talk of what used to be and the heyday of Rio and or Sosua means nothing. You can't miss what you never had. It's just that some remember a different time. To blame it on one group is not fair, as there has been a convergence of events and changes that has led us to the present state of Sosua. We are given the present day Sosua to enjoy so lets do that! We have to move forward with what we have.
Some never thought Rio would get shut down; some never thought Boca Chica would get cleaned up; some never thought Times Square would get cleaned up. The day may come sooner or later when Sosua changes, for whatever reason, so we must enjoy it now, while we can and don't take it for granted. Even with some of the changes, it still beats any day back at the crib for most of us.
Flashback historical footnote *:
[[Posted by: wes Sep 5 2005, 05:57 AM.
I just recieved information from a very reliable sourse that the Notorious K- Boatride has just been paroled. He is still in Rio and staying at a friend's apartment-Probably his only friend.
Hopefully he and guys like him have learned a valuable lession-Mr Wes.
Posted by: xman Sep 5 2005, 11:02 AM.
Some of the locals, especially the girls now look at us differently. I could sense that when I hung out around Rio. I didn't mess VM this time for that same reason.
Serves him right and I did notice a considerable fewer BROTHERS in Copa. Most of the guys I saw were the regulars. Saw Mr Muscle Man riding his bike on Ave Atlantica.
Posted by: HoofHunter Sep 5 2005, 02:09 PM.
X. Explain what you mean by "Some of the locals, especially the girls now look at us differently. I could sense that when I hung out around Rio."
I notice that you've said it a couple of times. I think I understand what you mean, but just want to make sure. I haven't been to Rio since Nov. 2003. I knew back then that things were going down a negative stretch.
I'm glad "K-BoatRide" is finally out of jail. I sincerely doubt that he and dudes like him will take the hint of persona non-grata and just leave. ]]
i have never seen these young black guys being unruly in the clubs. they love to show off and be seen but how does that hurt anyone. i have seen young white guys pissy drunk throwing up and acting out in florida outings. when young =black guys hang out every one is hyper critical. many of these guys are college buddies. i know this because i have talked to some of the clics. they dress based on their peers not us. i have sons in there late 20s. they are great people and do not dress or listen to my music gringos do your sons and nephews dress or listen to the same music you do. rap music love or hate it is an international phenom, it is played and respected all over the world. the fact it is not on most gringo play list is ok but i have zero country on mine. the young bros are not thugs because they they wear loose cloths. unfortunately that is how they are portrayed in the media. big deal they play their music loud and late. so did we when we were young. in most cases they will not bite you. have a conversation you might learn something. african american culture is different then many aspects of white culture. having different styles is not a negative as long as we respect each other. many of us old farts are not giving the youngons any respect. the reason the guys are there is that black men love the look of black women the majority of dr ladies look like our pretty sisters here with good atitudes. young white guys are into white women so the dr is not as attractive to them. white guys are often surprised and upset when they are perceived as racist. it is how they are oriented in our country. the if it aint white it aint right perspective. i am closer to 60 then 50 and have lived with white folk all my life. i have learned that our differences are few but some folk focus on the differences way to much. we are all brothers one love one father
that's not true. the most hated and despised men in thailand are the brits that when they are in a vacation, don't know if it is for the new surrounding or what but they go completely crazy and star doing the most stupid and crazy things. as a result 250 of them die each year there.
I have never seen these young black guys being unruly in the clubs. They love to show off and be seen but how does that hurt anyone. I have seen young white guys pissy drunk throwing up and acting out in florida outings.
Big deal they play their music loud and late. So did we when we were young.This is true. I am of British origin, but I avoid British tourists like the plague in places like the DR for the reasons given above.
I agree with most of what you say, except to add that use of marijuana is illegal in the DR and it seems a bit contrarian to travel to a place where prostitution is legal, only to openly break the drug laws, creating a potential for legal problems. From a legal point of view Amsterdam might be a safer destination to combine marijuana and paid sex.
As far as loud music goes, the question is more about what is acceptable in hotels. If New Garden decides to tolerate personal music loud and late, that is their business decision and they should make all guests aware of their policy. Would it be tolerated at the Days Inn near Fort Lauderdale airport? Probably not.
In the US smoking weed is like Diving to fast in the US. Many people including me indulge. Growing up in my generation black white almost everyone I knew smoked weed in college. I do not drink. I hate the taste of beer. However I enjoy a weed buzz very much. The pleasure of being in Classicos hearing the music and seeing the hot babes with a buzz was a priceless moment. What floats your boat is a personal choice. I have not seen them openly smoking cause I would have asked for a tote. LOL As long as it is done in private I see no issue.
This is true. I am of British origin, but I avoid British tourists like the plague in places like the DR for the reasons given above.
I agree with most of what you say, except to add that use of marijuana is illegal in the DR and it seems a bit contrarian to travel to a place where prostitution is legal, only to openly break the drug laws, creating a potential for legal problems. From a legal point of view Amsterdam might be a safer destination to combine marijuana and paid sex.
As far as loud music goes, the question is more about what is acceptable in hotels. If New Garden decides to tolerate personal music loud and late, that is their business decision and they should make all guests aware of their policy. Would it be tolerated at the Days Inn near Fort Lauderdale airport? Probably not.
in the us smoking weed is like diving too fast in the us.you are ok until you hit the bends?
i don't know what part of the us you are from, but in florida smoking weed is taken fairly seriously. for example many employers insist on pre-employment testing and during employment too, and in many licensed professions any kind of drug conviction can get you into all kinds of trouble, probation, etc. a marijuana possession conviction also comes with a two-years driver's license suspension, whereas a first or second offense speeding would only be a fine, though fairly stiff if you are going very fast.
SavePros321
08-05-13, 20:06
In the US smoking weed is like Diving to fast in the US. Many people including me indulge. Growing up in my generation black white almost everyone I knew smoked weed in college. I do not drink. I hate the taste of beer. However I enjoy a weed buzz very much. The pleasure of being in Classicos hearing the music and seeing the hot babes with a buzz was a priceless moment. What floats your boat is a personal choice. I have not seen them openly smoking cause I would have asked for a tote. LOL As long as it is done in private I see no issue.That shit they have in the DR is less of a grade than Mexican dirt weed, LOL. It is straight up trash.
I don't have any problem with Mary Jane either, but for employment purposes I can't fuck with it. For me it boils down to:
-Being broke, hella weed to smoke, no pussy (mongering)
or
-Having lots of money, lots of pussy (mongering) , no weed
I love pussy too much to lose a very good paying job behind some bullshit (weed), LOL! Lucky for those who can have the best of both worlds.
Suicide. Straight Up.
If only it was "cool" it would be an amazing place for it. I love nature and a good buzz. Lots of NATURE in Sosua.
In the DR they look at Heroin and Weed as the same thing. No Difference. A drug is a drug.
This is where the danger lies.
I do not smoke much so I do not need the potent stuff and have been retired for last 3 years. You are right about the local stuff. It is very ragged but they give you a lot for a little. Many of the Haitian girls smoke and will hook you up. They generally do not have relationships with local authorities. I have assumed the risk on a few occasions and have enjoyed the experience. Not to mention my dance skills are enhanced 100% One of the best times was being in a cabana in a shower with a 25 year old non pro. The music, the enviroment and the buzz unforgetable. You have to be a risk taker to be a monger. I try to be very discreet and get the most out of my experience. Classicos with buzz priceless.
Suicide. Straight Up.
If only it was "cool" it would be an amazing place for it. I love nature and a good buzz. Lots of NATURE in Sosua.
In the DR they look at Heroin and Weed as the same thing. No Difference. A drug is a drug.
This is where the danger lies.
I'm young and black. I too wish my age group would just stop uploading videos and inviting more of their ignorant, loud mouthed friends. I'll be honest and most of you are probably thinking about this too. I want to keep certain monger destinations to both myself and other mongers who don't feel the need to be posting their tricking for the whole world to see. It's not something to be proud of outside of your monger circle. Call it selfish but when the whole world knows, this is what happens. However, I don't agree with what these other mongers who love to dress up their closeted prejudice with words like 'thugs'. It's not an inside joke. Everyone knows what group you're talking about, and you just look stupid. Get over it. It is what is. This is the age we all live in now. The best we can do is educate these young men and tell them that what they are doing is ruining future mongering for all of us. To be low key. Will they listen? I don't know, but it can't hurt to try instead of complaining about the good old days on a messaging board.
Manizales911
08-05-13, 21:14
you are ok until you hit the bends?
i don't know what part of the us you are from, but in florida smoking weed is taken fairly seriously. for example many employers insist on pre-employment testing and during employment too, and in many licensed professions any kind of drug conviction can get you into all kinds of trouble, probation, etc. a marijuana possession conviction also comes with a two-years driver's license suspension, whereas a first or second offense speeding would only be a fine, though fairly stiff if you are going very fast.where i live possession under an ounce is in fact similar to a traffic fine, a civil offense. i have my mmj card so i can possess and grow legally, a wonderful thing. i don't work so i don't have to worry about being tested. i don't touch the stuff when i travel for two reasons, one being the legal ramifications and in the dr they are severe and the other reason is the shit they have in the dr is garbage compared to the dank i grow, lol.
That's not true. The most hated and despised men in Thailand are the Brits that When they are in a vacation, don't know if it is for the new surrounding or what but they go completely crazy and star doing the most stupid and crazy things. As a result 250 of them die each year there.This is the absolute truth!
Suicide. Straight Up.
If only it was "cool" it would be an amazing place for it. I love nature and a good buzz. Lots of NATURE in Sosua.
In the DR they look at Heroin and Weed as the same thing. No Difference. A drug is a drug.
This is where the danger lies.This is so true. When travelling to other countries, one should be very cognizant of the local tolerance for drugs. In the DR, drugs, even Marijuana are a huge deal. It's just not worth it to mess with the stuff down there. You have all your time in the USA or wherever you're from to smoke reefer. I think one can do without out for a few days while on vacation.
Just my 2 cents.
I have heard of guys getting caught with weed and the cops shaking them down and giving the weed back. It would not want to be in that position. Truth is at my age and with my demeanor I look like the last guy they would suspect to have weed. I look like FiveO or a businessman and that is how I am treated. I was surprised that the % of users among the girls is low. Haitian girls seem to me more open but like you said some DR chicas act like it is horse. Just like at home I am very careful.
Suicide. Straight Up.
If only it was "cool" it would be an amazing place for it. I love nature and a good buzz. Lots of NATURE in Sosua.
In the DR they look at Heroin and Weed as the same thing. No Difference. A drug is a drug.
This is where the danger lies.
Lazy Monger
08-06-13, 00:54
people just need to let it go. sosua is what it is and it won't be what it was so complaining about the "brothas" ain't going to change that. time and time again these guys are labeled "ghetto thugs" but the reality is the real ghetto thugs rarely leave their neighborhoods much less their cities. they most certainly don't get passports and travel to foreign countries. how these guys roll on vacation may not be to everyone's taste. hell, as a black man in his 40s some of it annoys me because it does affect how i do business when i am trying to contract some pay for play pussy. however, i have experienced the same issues in places like lima and cartagena that didn't see an influx of young black guys from new york. for most part these guys are usually just playing out a fantasy. for a few days out of the year they get to play like their favorite rapper or nba baller. minor league stuff compared to some of the coke fueled misadventures of middle aged wannabe hard men in places like colombia, peru and costa rica.
i have never seen these young black guys being unruly in the clubs. they love to show off and be seen but how does that hurt anyone. i have seen young white guys pissy drunk throwing up and acting out in florida outings. when young =black guys hang out every one is hyper critical. many of these guys are college buddies. i know this because i have talked to some of the clics. they dress based on their peers not us. i have sons in there late 20s. they are great people and do not dress or listen to my music gringos do your sons and nephews dress or listen to the same music you do. rap music love or hate it is an international phenom, it is played and respected all over the world. the fact it is not on most gringo play list is ok but i have zero country on mine. the young bros are not thugs because they they wear loose cloths. unfortunately that is how they are portrayed in the media. big deal they play their music loud and late. so did we when we were young. in most cases they will not bite you. have a conversation you might learn something. african american culture is different then many aspects of white culture. having different styles is not a negative as long as we respect each other. many of us old farts are not giving the youngons any respect. the reason the guys are there is that black men love the look of black women the majority of dr ladies look like our pretty sisters here with good atitudes. young white guys are into white women so the dr is not as attractive to them. white guys are often surprised and upset when they are perceived as racist. it is how they are oriented in our country. the if it aint white it aint right perspective. i am closer to 60 then 50 and have lived with white folk all my life. i have learned that our differences are few but some folk focus on the differences way to much. we are all brothers one love one father
Having different styles is not a negative as long as we respect each other.Kudos sir!
ForceSteeler
08-06-13, 01:40
People just need to let it go. Sosua is what it is and it won't be what it was so complaining about the "brothas" ain't going to change that. Time and time again these guys are labeled "ghetto thugs" but the reality is the real ghetto thugs rarely leave their neighborhoods much less their cities. They most certainly don't get passports and travel to foreign countries. How these guys roll on vacation may not be to everyone's taste. Hell, as a black man in his 40s some of it annoys me because it does affect how I do business when I am trying to contract some pay for play pussy. However, I have experienced the same issues in places like Lima and Cartagena that didn't see an influx of young black guys from New York. For most part these guys are usually just playing out a fantasy. For a few days out of the year they get to play like their favorite rapper or NBA baller. Minor league stuff compared to some of the coke fueled misadventures of middle aged wannabe hard men in places like Colombia, Peru and Costa Rica.Does it really matter anymore, Once Sosua gets there Cruise Ship Port and the Real Tourist Dollars start to flow in. You can kiss Sosua good bye. Most of these countries are trying to crack down on being labeled a sex tourism destination.
As the USA will cut primary Aid. So enjoy all the mongering has to offer because our days are numbered.
complaining about the good old days on a messaging board.We won't be talking about how much we miss Clasicos anymore because we now have great places like this: http://youtu.be/JBMBzF3M0lg
SavePros321
08-06-13, 02:48
We won't be talking about how much we miss Clasicos anymore because we now have great places like this:
http://youtu.be/JBMBzF3M0lgHow much is anyone willing to bet that those were all promotional models and you will not see the same chicas if you visit, LOL. Nice video production quality though.
The comments guys left are funny as hell! Best comments:
"Whats the Point of Popping Bottles to Impress Hookers?. At the end of the day you still got to pay for pussy."
"You are so right. I went to Sosua a few months ago and some clown as ni**a that came with my boy got set up by one of these chicas. He was walking around with expensive jewelry on and buying random b!tches drinks in the club that he didn't even fuck. He negotiated with a chica for 2000 pesos and after he hit the b!tch flipped the script and said no I want 4000 Pesos. B!tch ended up calling the cops and he ended up paying her and the cops what they wanted to stay out of jail."
ForceSteeler
08-06-13, 03:26
How much is anyone willing to bet that those were all promotional models and you will not see the same chicas if you visit, LOL. Nice video production quality though.
The comments guys left are funny as hell! Best comments:
"Whats the Point of Popping Bottles to Impress Hookers. At the end of the day you still got&65279; to pay for pussy."
"You are so right. I went to Sosua a few months ago and some clown as ni*a that came with my boy got set up by one of these chicas. He was walking around with expensive jewelry on and buying random&65279; be! Tches drinks in the club that he didn't even fuck. He negotiated with a chica for 2000 pesos and after he hit the be! Tch flipped the script and said no I want 4000 Pesos. B! Tch ended up calling the cops and he ended up paying her and the cops what they wanted to stay out of jail."The Spot Lounge is across the street from DLatinos, I was in Sosua 2 Days ago for 1 week and the Place was dead every night. Its sad to see so many new bars open up to only be closed in a few months, Grand Opening Grand Closing.
P. S To the people complain about Brothers Ruining Sosua, Sosua is full of wash up Hardcore used up Chicas that charge an arm and a leg for whack service.
Dominican Republic is a big island.They are plenty of other secret locations (Which I'm not going to tell anybody) Where you can get fresh non-pro girls for 1000 pesos and under.
There is this one spot that I went to that had Half Chinese, Half Dominican and are some of the most beautiful women on earth. To bad its far away from your typical gringo.
You can get better sex if your willing to leave a 5 block radius.
Lazy Monger
08-06-13, 03:29
Too funny.
We won't be talking about how much we miss Clasicos anymore because we now have great places like this:
http://youtu.be/JBMBzF3M0lg
Tiradentes
08-06-13, 04:05
1.Ruin Rio de Janeiro for the rest of us. Check.
2.Ruin Sosua for the rest of us. Check.
3.Ruin San Jose, CR for the rest of us. Check.
What is next- clown ass thug rapper baller wannabes from the hood? Thank god, Thailand is 20 long hours away and these thugs can't stand still for more than few hours in a plane! Plus Asians really- really dislike them kind.
Alex Deuce
08-06-13, 04:10
Pretty simple evaluatory tool for my friend and I in all countries including home; If you are at our table and even as much flinches or balks at the pay distribution of a bill or buying a chica a drink, you will be quickly and rudely asked to leave.
It's sure sign of someone that simply does not know the game and indicator of selfish intentions. Your that dude that show up at the cookout or party empty-handed and wonder why the other guests have issues with you. Bragging on denying a person a simple pleasantly of human kindness since Adam gave Eve water from a cup of his enjoined hands says a lot about a person; notice, I left did not use the term Man.
Karma is a biatch and some of you don't understand why you keep getting fvcked over.
SavePros321
08-06-13, 04:15
3.Ruin San Jose, CR for the rest of us. Check.Never been to San Jose, but this is the first time I've heard the make it rain crowd being blamed for ruining CR, LOL! I thought it was the mercenary chicas asking for Cien for ST that ruined SJO?
Mr Enternational
08-06-13, 04:20
What is next- clown ass thug rapper baller wannabes from the hood? Thank god, Thailand is 20 long hours away and these thugs can't stand still for more than few hours in a plane! Plus Asians really- really dislike them kind.Maybe you have not been to Thailand lately, but the same guys who go ashore when the U. S Navy pulls into port and the same guys who work at KBR in Iraq who go over to Thailand when they have vacation, you would probably categorize the same way. It's a shame to LET another man ruin your game.
1. Ruin Rio de Janeiro for the rest of us. Check.
2. Ruin Sosua for the rest of us. Check.
3. Ruin San Jose, CR for the rest of us. Check.
What is next- clown ass thug rapper baller wannabes from the hood? Thank god, Thailand is 20 long hours away and these thugs can't stand still for more than few hours in a plane! Plus Asians really- really dislike them kind.Wrong, wrong and wrong.
1. The World Cup and Olympics made Brazil clean up there act as the world watches.
2. The brothers had nothing to do with the Sosua beach closing and crackdown ongoing in the DR.
3. Have you really been to Costa Rica? I saw three brothers my whole trip and I was one of them.
4. Thailand, girls loved us, the only complaint was that the brothers had big dicks. Asian girls are used to little dicks, maybe thats why they like you so much.
1. Ruin Rio de Janeiro for the rest of us. Check.
2. Ruin Sosua for the rest of us. Check.
3. Ruin San Jose, CR for the rest of us. Check.
What is next- clown ass thug rapper baller wannabes from the hood? Thank god, Thailand is 20 long hours away and these thugs can't stand still for more than few hours in a plane! Plus Asians really- really dislike them kind.I've been to Rio, San Jose, and Sousa many times. No one has ruined it for this Gringo. It sounds more like a racist post. Sorry Jackson, perhaps another infraction point?
BTW, I started going to LOS in 1978, and the girls like ANYBODY that has baht! Hopefully you are not that clueless!
Very talented young lady.
http://youtu.be/39pK3Cv1jdk
Going for 40 nights in a row in Dlatins I noticed a few patterns about Black Americans.
1- don't sit at same table with white guys,
2- don't let you sit on the same sofa where they are sitting even if there is space,
3- are always in a group.
4- are all overweight.
5- don't go with Haitians,
6- take phone numbers from all the girls they meet.
7- drink cognac.
8- prefer girls with Big asses / Big boobs that I don't like.
9- Not recognizzing the girls they fuck mostly the hardened pros
10-stay only a few days.
So not much problems for me.
SavePros321
08-06-13, 14:34
Does it really matter anymore, Once Sosua gets there Cruise Ship Port and the Real Tourist Dollars start to flow in. You can kiss Sosua good bye.The port will not be in Sosua. It will be in Puerto Plata (Maimon).
Mr. Enternational and a few others already explained how the cruise ship biz works (for the passengers). They will not be driving all the way down from PP to Sosua; they will spend their money in the immediate port area. Will not effect the dynamic of Sosua.
The only thing Sosua (and the DR for that matter) has to worry about is the mass outflow of tourists dollars once Cuba eventually opens up to American tourism.
The Mind Bender
08-06-13, 14:40
Can we get back to actual reporta? Leave for 2 seconds and things get racist.
What is next- clown ass thug rapper baller wannabes from the hood? Thank god, Thailand is 20 long hours away and these thugs can't stand still for more than few hours in a plane! Plus Asians really- really dislike them kind.Actually Asian girls are quite curious about black men.
I know several friends who managed to sit still for 20 hours and they had a great time in Thailand LOL
Alex Deuce
08-06-13, 15:04
The port will not be in Sosua. It will be in Puerto Plata (Maimon).
Mr. Enternational and a few others already explained how the cruise ship biz works (for the passengers). They will not be driving all the way down from PP to Sosua; they will spend their money in the immediate port area. Will not effect the dynamic of Sosua.
The only thing Sosua (and the DR for that matter) has to worry about is the mass outflow of tourists dollars once Cuba eventually opens up to American tourism.Incorrect and flat out wrong on both counts.
1. Some excursions for fishing and diving will reach as far as the east end of Sosua.
2. A cleaned Sosua will be a destination for tourist as its a 5_10 minute drive
3. Passions et al are part of a campaign to rid DR from overt marketing of prostitutions and Peter had been warned for 3 years.
4. Opening of Cuba now brings back the three and four day cruises from FLL; increasing number of ships to port not decreasing. The big looser will Mexico as the 5 to 7 day will have less desired destinations than the 4 day Caribbean tour. Its the part of the long term financial profitability of the port.
The guys on the forum are not the Morons you seem to think. Having relationship will enhance the experience. Sport fucking is a lot of fun but it gets boring very fast. Point and click sport fucking is fun but it gets boring very fast. Having an attractive young lady that you know and like to hang out with when you are 50 plus is priceless.I like your style Mr Kool, like your above post and other posts.
I've been traveling and playing for years now as well.
The truth is, no matter where you go to play, if it's good, word will get out, and quickly now with the internet and sites like these.
All different kinds of guys will begin to show up and things will change.
Some good change, some not so good.
That's just the way it is. Nothing ever stays the same forever.
You either adapt or move on.
I currently hang out in different parts of Brazil.
Some I post about, others I selfishly don't to keep it tranquilo for a while longer :)
I still go to places where a gringo is a rare site. Nice.
I like your post above.
It is truly priceless.
The older I get, the more I like to hang with girls that I actually like and even better when they like me right back.
Stay cool amigo, I'm sure you will.
SavePros321
08-06-13, 16:26
2. A cleaned Sosua will be a destination for tourist as its a 5_10 minute driveFrom where? If you have the link to an article saying that the port will be in Sosua and not Puerto Plata, please post it:
"Last August, Carnival Cruise Lines and the Dominican Republic announced plans to construct a new cruise port. To be built on Maimon Bay, about five and one half miles from Puerto Plata, the new facility will cost $65 million and paid for by Carnival Corporation, in partnership with the Rannik family shipping company."
http://www.cruisemaven.com/carnival-corp-breaks-ground-for-new-cruise-port-in-dominican-republic/
3. Passions et al are part of a campaign to rid DR from overt marketing of prostitutions and Peter had been warned for 3 years.If that is the case then why is CMP still open and operating? Also doesn't seem that any of the casas in SD have been shut down either.
One historical note and this is not new information, as it has been pointed out by some of the more seasoned vets on the board, one thing that did happen with the demise of Rio and change in the demographic in Sosua is a much more hardened, short time, one hour, sport fuck mentality with the girls. So yeah, there is definitely a difference now! As others have pointed out, back in the day Sosua was much more relaxed and about TLNs. Not saying you can't get TLN, but it was the norm back then and the quality of that TLN was very good.
So what, you ask? Sosua is, what Sosua is. For the new jacks and semi new jacks all of this talk of what used to be and the heyday of Rio and or Sosua means nothing. You can't miss what you never had. It's just that some remember a different time. To blame it on one group is not fair, as there has been a convergence of events and changes that has led us to the present state of Sosua. We are given the present day Sosua to enjoy so lets do that! We have to move forward with what we have.Well said. Can I expound with my 2 cents? I think what many may not give weight to, is that just as there have been an influx of new & semi new jack mongers (I like those terms for this discussion) so have there been the same with dominican women. As many dominican chicas got older, they left Sosua, maybe not the game, but they left Sosua and were quickly replaced by another set of youngster chicas set on learning the ropes and getting a piece of the pie that their older sistren enjoyed and paved the way for.
But. Look at enough young dominican chicas in Sosua today. They are the perfect match for the young new jack, generation X males you see coming to Sosua now. If these women didn't speak spanish you would swear they came from some big city in the states. By the way they dress and their style. Many don't seem to manifest traditional values or family customs. (please don't ask me what that is ). The younguns are running the households and dictating to their parents. One reason is, they MAY outearn everyone else in the household......with the quick cash they have the potential of getting their hands on. Or it's simply a dis respect issue. The younguns are more street wise. Sometimes more aware or understanding of foreigners than others in the household. So they may have a slight edge of assertiveness at home.
They are new jack chicas, with only a few old head chicas still around. Sosua appears to be a mix of old school mongers, mixed with new school mongers. These new young mongers heard about Sosua through word of mouth. Guys bragging about their escapades in Sosua. So they showed up. Many with only limited amount of time for vacation. So they go ape shit for a week or less, because they are in awe of how easy pussy is to get in Sosua.
Now these young mongers are matched with an abundance of new jack chicas that grew up and became teens. Of course there are always a small number of old head chicas around that can't afford to quit the game or Sosua. The reason many arent paying much attention. Is because mongers enjoy fucking young chicas all the time anyway. They arent really paying attention to the fact that these young chicas have been raised differently. That they are more into copying what people in other countries are doing. Thats why you can have a place like Winners Circle, Dlatins play hip hop music & videos and the girls love it more instead of being turned off to it. I'm sure at one time dominican girls loved hearing spanish romantico musica moreso. And many mongers obliged by playing that music, and dancing to it. But now we have hip hop reggatone, and many girls are copying off of young american culture.
Now these young chicas look like they belong in a rap video themselves. So it's no mystery to why sport fucking has become more popular over developing a relationship or simply a TLN. The GIRLS HAVE ALSO CHANGED. Economics has played a part as well. Old head chicas may have helped in schooling the younguns that TLNs are not as profitable as sport fucking. Of course they don't need an old head to tell them that. They can tell by what their pocketbook looks like. Then it's monger forums like this and others drilling it into every newbies head not to fall in love, not to be a mark, not to be a WU sucker etc. Enough of that programming and clowning, and the average guy begins to think, TLN's is for suckers. Sportfucking is the way to go. Get as much juice as you can. Fuck dem ho's. Treat them like shit, because they don't respect you. Don't over pay. Guys begin to think, a nice guy gets fucked out of his money. While being a hardcore monger gets fucked for his money. Thats the chess war of mongering. Establishing who's boss in this game. The monger or the chica. A short vacation may play a role in certain behavior, as well. Guys don't have time to develop anything with a chica. Plus add scamming to the equation. Scamming has beeen reinforced as a worthwhile alternative to actually earning your keep.
So if chicas are having a harder time getting suckers to be WU novios, they already assume they arent going to get as much doing TLNs as they can sportfucking or scamming. And all the girls that tried structured places like passions, soon realize, freelancing may be better than waiting for dudes to come in there to fuck them. Because many guys go in those places simply to gawk and drink a few beers.
On another note. Personally, I don't like to see 4 and 5 dudes of any ethnicity walking down the street looking like a mob. I think it looks corny and immature. But thats just me. I also may not like hearing guys acting ignorant by making excessive noise and disturbing others. But I don't need to be in the DR to feel that way. I don't particulary like that sort of thing anywhere, when common sense should prevail in how individuals conduct themselves in public.
So I agree with you. Many factors and variables have played into the changes that have occured in Sosua and everywhere else. It aint just a brother issue. All parties have played a role, as well as factors not seen or considered, in why things have changed. Having said all of that. I have adapted even though I haven't mongered that long. I do what I need to do to enjoy myself. And I always do. And I don't need Dlatins, Rumba or Classicos to have a good time. It's not the venue it's the effort an individual puts in that makes the difference.
I try to be honest and help guys by sharing my insights. In enjoying preparing for my escapades. I do not mind sharing things that have helped me. If you conduct your self in a way that you do not hurt or take advantage of any one. You sleep better at night. I really enjoy my outings. I have acquired a nice list of girls pros and non pros that really ties me up. This may affect my sport fucking. Hard part now I'd figuring who on the list to see.
I like your style Mr Kool, like your above post and other posts.
I've been traveling and playing for years now as well.
The truth is, no matter where you go to play, if it's good, word will get out, and quickly now with the internet and sites like these.
All different kinds of guys will begin to show up and things will change.
Some good change, some not so good.
That's just the way it is. Nothing ever stays the same forever.
You either adapt or move on.
I currently hang out in different parts of Brazil.
Some I post about, others I selfishly don't to keep it tranquilo for a while longer.
I still go to places where a gringo is a rare site. Nice.
I like your post above.
It is truly priceless.
The older I get, the more I like to hang with girls that I actually like and even better when they like me right back.
Stay cool amigo, I'm sure you will.
I've been to Rio, San Jose, and Sousa many times. No one has ruined it for this Gringo. It sounds more like a racist post. Sorry Jackson, perhaps another infraction point?
BTW, I started going to LOS in 1978, and the girls like ANYBODY that has baht! Hopefully you are not that clueless!Nah. Just a perspective.
Many interesting and insightful posts.
My take is many Gringos treat third world countries with disrespect and feel entitled to act in a bad manner. Agree that oftentimes mongers are acting out rapper / baller fanatasies since it is much cheaper than Vegas.
Also agree that hip hop culture is part of the global community. Music, movements and fashion are fine. It is poor behavior associated with hip hop that cause problems.
Older mongers. Please do not be so critical and over reactive. Are you forgetting in your 20's what older men thought about your music and fashion?
If it is too loud. Stay home.
Charles Pooter
08-06-13, 19:13
A cleaned Sosua will be a destination for tourist as its a 5_10 minute driveFrom the airport. What's that got to do with cruise ships? Or did you mean from La Union? Not many tourists there.
If I paid a lot of money for a cruise and outings and they took me and my family to Sosua I would be furious. There is fuck all there that is different and distinctive except for the putas. Nice little beach and a few adequate restaurants but nothing that cruise passengers haven't seen far better examples of elsewhere. The fishing and diving are very inferior by traveller world standards. There is at least something to see in Puerto Plata, though that city would need a big clean-up and change of attitude by the locals to become tourist-friendly.
Mr Enternational
08-06-13, 19:29
Going for 40 nights in a row in Dlatins I noticed a few patterns about Black Americans.
1- don't sit at same table with white guys, Sorry Tomjackin. Gogo and I are no longer able to sit with you, since we saw you in this video with the all the rap star wannabees. http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhH4G83Flo5KuOzdPH (And to think, aren't we the mfs that initiated the place? It was empty before me, Tomjackin, and Gogo went up in there.)
Alex Deuce
08-06-13, 19:30
From the airport. What's that got to do with cruise ships? Or did you mean from La Union? Not many tourists there.
If I paid a lot of money for a cruise and outings and they took me and my family to Sosua I would be furious. There is fuck all there that is different and distinctive except for the putas. Nice little beach and a few adequate restaurants but nothing that cruise passengers haven't seen far better examples of elsewhere. The fishing and diving are very inferior by traveller world standards. There is at least something to see in Puerto Plata, though that city would need a big clean-up and change of attitude by the locals to become tourist-friendly.From both. The fishing and diving excursions do need more investment but are far from inferior. The trip to Sosua is no different than the bus and cab rides taken to the excursions for el senor frogs and others. The push is for more investment for family and cruise excursions. Needing several building rehabs, demolition and vice control.
Very talented young lady.
http://youtu.be/39pK3Cv1jdkHow much for TLN?
Ath Trainer
08-06-13, 19:33
So many of the comments about different types of people may be true to the majority, but not to all. Judge everybody as an individual, first.
Finally made it to sosua after striking out the last 2 wks. Was able to get a room at ng after all. Staying in the old wing, room is fine, bed is big. No loud guys or music. Blk guys are older, and not playing loud music or wearing their pants low, LOL.
Went out about 9 last night. Still very quiet. Was approached by a girl next door type. Hatian born, but grew up here. Speaks decent english. Was hoping to shed her when it got better, but she was sweet, And became GFE. Her friendly no rush personality over shadowed her wear on her body from childbirth. It was interesting watching the hotties come out as the time passed. Was tempting to dump her, for a nicer model, but was into her GFE.
When I asked her how much, she said I don't know. Seemed like she was not comfortable with the business aspect of this. She didn't have a lot of rules in the room, but was not a spectacular performer. Did BBBJ, but was nothing special. Usednher hand more than mouth. Dfk was excellent. She enjoyed DATY, but after 1 o, she was done. FS was ok. When done, she showers, gets back in bed, and was ready to stay the night. Tln was not discussd, and caught me off guard. If she wasnt soo worn, no, problem. Asked when she would see me again. Hope she doesn't stalk me the rest1 of the wk. Gave her 1500, which she took without complaint, but was not jumping for joy, either.
Good personality, willing to please, no language barrier, but her tits hung to her flabby belly, almost hiding her see section scar.
Ate early at rumba. Had a girl approach, who may I may have done lastbtrip, who kept bothering me afterwards. She did not remember me, but it may be her. Her name is natalie. Ave looking, but does not listen to no.
Better thqn normal 1st night. I usually rush on my choice and regret not waiting. 2nd night is usually my best.
Alex Deuce
08-06-13, 20:03
From where? If you have the link to an article saying that the port will be in Sosua and not Puerto Plata, please post it:
"Last August, Carnival Cruise Lines and the Dominican Republic announced plans to construct a new cruise port. To be built on Maimon Bay, about five and one half miles from Puerto Plata, the new facility will cost $65 million and paid for by Carnival Corporation, in partnership with the Rannik family shipping company."
http://www.cruisemaven.com/carnival-corp-breaks-ground-for-new-cruise-port-in-dominican-republic/
If that is the case then why is CMP still open and operating? Also doesn't seem that any of the casas in SD have been shut down either.1. You need a map and reading comprehension lessons as your own articles talks of the economic impact to the North Coast. Specifically, desired additional investments in excursion destinations. (might have mentiond that a year ago) Guess who is number #1 after Maimon.
2. Keep watching. SD is going through its changes as we speak. Although SW presence is increasing for some reason. Push on the casa and it spills to the street. Squeeze the streets and the casinos and car washes fill up. Bang in all spots and residents gets pissed. Difference this time is people are loosing their government jobs for turning away. Going to get interesting.
Wrong, wrong and wrong1.
4. Thailand, girls loved us, the only complaint was that the brothers had big dicks. Asian girls are used to little dicks, maybe thats why they like you so much.I have not been to CR, but from what I read it was not spoiled the brothas.
RR
DeepMmpactt
08-06-13, 20:52
I'm young and black. I too wish my age group would just stop uploading videos and inviting more of their ignorant, loud mouthed friends. I'll be honest and most of you are probably thinking about this too. I want to keep certain monger destinations to both myself and other mongers who don't feel the need to be posting their tricking for the whole world to see. It's not something to be proud of outside of your monger circle. Call it selfish but when the whole world knows, this is what happens. However, I don't agree with what these other mongers who love to dress up their closeted prejudice with words like 'thugs'. It's not an inside joke. Everyone knows what group you're talking about, and you just look stupid. Get over it. It is what is. This is the age we all live in now. The best we can do is educate these young men and tell them that what they are doing is ruining future mongering for all of us. To be low key. Will they listen? I don't know, but it can't hurt to try instead of complaining about the good old days on a messaging board.Zero great way to put it in a very eloquent way, I agree, I love to "trick" people at first take think you're a "sucka" or a no social skilled loser, who can't get none" The truth is "we" all pay whether its dinner, date, time, clubs, drinks. A rapper came out with a song "It ain't tricking if you got it" Is total bullshit, It's all tricking you just got more to "trick" with I'm the "trick" but them biatches are the "act" I "trick" then she does the disappearing act" As a fellow black man, probably older than you, you will find a lot of ignorant racist idiots", on these boards. I used to get mad, and try to respond, but if the web host can't figure, your intent you will be redacted or deleted. So I figured out just ignore these " sideways" off handed racial slurrs. 99% of these board members, will you ever meet in person anyway or care too, but on the flip side there's people on here that will make your "I have to shake that dudes hand" list. I've met a few mongers in person and it was real cool. I and a lot of my black friends have set still long enough to hit Bangkok "Thailand" plus the 2 hour car ride to Pattaya beach (walking street) they "loved black men, ahem. I mean black mean with a lot of "baht" (currency). Lmao!
I know Jackson doesn't have all day to babysit this board's, but if he deleted every 3 or 4 days, the entire board with useless political, racial, argumentative material (me as well) LOL! Anything other than normal chatter, and trip. It would be a kind of monger "control-alt-delete" re booting but go further, blank out the whole page. That would force us to stick to the intended use of this board or look a completely blank page, every time we logged on. I know this is extreme, but he (Jackson) just reset this board and it didn't take us long, to fall back into these useless topics. I look forward to October, and will report back. Peace!
Sorry Tomjackin. Gogo and I are no longer able to sit with you, since we saw you in this video with the all the rap star wannabees.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhH4G83Flo5KuOzdPH
(And to think, aren't we the mfs that initiated the place? It was empty before me, Tomjackin, and Gogo went up in there.) Chill my brother! I'm in Buenos Aires rapping my happy old white ass off todas las noches!
ConquerorVal
08-06-13, 22:51
Just got boob flashed by a nice young chica while having breakfast at the NG, and asked out for a beer by another nice chica while getting my boarding pass printed in an internet cafe. All the shit aside, what is there not like about Sosua. Familiarity does breed contempt though as evident by some posters.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhH4G83Flo5KuOzdPHThat plays well with the liberal media. Aside from some property damage, it doesn't look like anyone got hurt. Not like here: http://youtu.be/y70tZDW2AqY
Thats why you can have a place like Winners Circle, Dlatins play hip hop music & videos and the girls love it more instead of being turned off to it. I'm sure at one time dominican girls loved hearing spanish romantico musica moreso.Dominicans are very proud of their culture, and that includes their music, which is loved all over the world. The girls in Sosua will go and listen to whatever the money tells them to listen to. They will dance to gangman style or country music if its going to make them money.
The reason you hear American black rap music much, much more in Sosua than in places like Santiago or Santo Domingo is because the businesses in Sosua are deliberately catering to the black bike week type mongers. The same reason places like The Spot are posting vids of popping bottles and making it rain. There are also younger black guys now "living" in Sosua who are helping to facilitate this by working with the business owners and helping the DJs get that type of music.
Sosua mongers are getting younger and younger and more and more urban. Next time you go down, this will be your tour guide str8 from NYC!!
Alex Deuce
08-07-13, 00:31
Dominicans are very proud of their culture, and that includes their music, which is loved all over the world. The girls in Sosua will go and listen to whatever the money tells them to listen to. They will dance to gangman style or country music if its going to make them money.
The reason you hear American black rap music much, much more in Sosua than in places like Santiago or Santo Domingo is because the businesses in Sosua are deliberately catering to the black bike week type mongers. The same reason places like The Spot are posting vids of popping bottles and making it rain. There are also younger black guys now "living" in Sosua who are helping to facilitate this by working with the business owners and helping the DJs get that type of music.
Sosua mongers are getting younger and younger and more and more urban. Next time you go down, this will be your tour guide str8 from NYC!Or it could be that 73 percent of population has African ancestry and Reggatone is closely related to Hip Hop. Naw, That could not possibly be it.
Galenmarek
08-07-13, 00:43
Wrong, wrong and wrong.
1. The World Cup and Olympics made Brazil clean up there act as the world watches.
2. The brothers had nothing to do with the Sosua beach closing and crackdown ongoing in the DR.
3. Have you really been to Costa Rica? I saw three brothers my whole trip and I was one of them.
4. Thailand, girls loved us, the only complaint was that the brothers had big dicks. Asian girls are used to little dicks, maybe thats why they like you so much.That's funny, maybe thats why they like you so much.
Lazy Monger
08-07-13, 00:45
Dude hasn't been anywhere. Just talking shit. The monger population in Costa Rica is mostly over 40 white guys and the chicas there are more business than in Sosua. Sosua in its "ruined" state is still cheaper than most places in Latin America. For instance, Santa Fe in Bogota used to be a bargain and is now ridiculously expensive and it never saw a influx of the brothas. I have traveled with white coworkers to Sosua and they have had a ball because at the end of the day it is pay for play pussy and you pay you fuck. Plus black dudes don't scare them. The dudes on here who have their panties in a wad are just not comfortable around black people and projecting their issues on the situation. I have been the only black dude in the Sportsmen Lodge in San Jose and ended up partying with guys there and going out hunting with them. Last time in Sosua, stayed at Terra Linda and my wingman for the trip was a white divorce Connecticut cop. I was a sounding board for him to ***** about his divorce and also to show him the ins and outs of mongering in Sosua. Some of these dudes sound like bitches letting dudes they don't know ruin their vacation.
I have not been to CR, but from what I read it was not spoiled the brothas.
RR
SavePros321
08-07-13, 01:01
I think ForceSteeler summed all of this up very well:
P. S To the people complain about Brothers Ruining Sosua, Sosua is full of wash up Hardcore used up Chicas that charge an arm and a leg for whack service.
Dominican Republic is a big island. They are plenty of other secret locations (Which I'm not going to tell anybody) Where you can get fresh non-pro girls for 1000 pesos and under.
There is this one spot that I went to that had Half Chinese, Half Dominican and are some of the most beautiful women on earth. To bad its far away from your typical gringo.
You can get better sex if your willing to leave a 5 block radius.It is what it is folks. Sosua is perfect for newbies and guys who don't want to put in too much work for their vacation. I think we Vets are coming down to hard on the place because we all new what it once was (prior to 2011) , and have taken the training wheels off when it comes to mongering (very good grasp of speaking and understanding spanish, branching out and discovering new spots, etc.).
ForceSteeler
08-07-13, 01:36
Zero great way to put it in a very eloquent way, I agree, I love to "trick" people at first take think you're a "sucka" or a no social skilled loser, who can't get none" The truth is "we" all pay whether its dinner, date, time, clubs, drinks. A rapper came out with a song "It ain't tricking if you got it" Is total bullshit, It's all tricking you just got more to "trick" with I'm the "trick" but them biatches are the "act" I "trick" then she does the disappearing act"We all pay for pussy directly or indirectly. Indirectly just cost a lot more and it's what helps fund American capitalism. People at the top (1%) understand that you can get men to spend money on bullshit to try to impress women. Gucci, Jordans, Mercedes Benz,
Moet champagne / popping bottles and club owners all make billions of dollars on that philosophy. In my eyes most women have a inner prostitute. Which is the reason why most women will sleep with you if you have a $250,000 Ferrari in the driveway.
Mongering is just being honest with yourself, I see so many guys go to Miami memorial weekend and spend $5,000-$10,000 Dollars to try to fuck 1 or 2 girls when they can take that Moet Rose money and spend it in Sosua and you can fuck 100's of girls and still have $6,000 left.
We all pay for it, Its 1 life to live, you can't take the money and your possessions with you. The Egyptians tried it and fail.
Naked Gunz
08-07-13, 01:41
Sosua mongers are getting younger and younger and more and more urban. Next time you go down, this will be your tour guide str8 from NYC!!That's a foul ass pic. This kid will be in jail before he reaches 21. Blacks will never have shyt with this mindset. I'm Black, and hip-hop has set us blacks back hundreds of years, more than any Klan can ever do. If you don't like my post F-you, you put this shyt out there.
That's a foul ass pic. This kid will be in jail before he reaches 21. Blacks will never have shyt with this mindset. I'm Black, and hip-hop has set us blacks back hundreds of years, more than any Klan can ever do.You sound like you got some sense. I can understand the rage. Guys are talking about the girls like the music. It's sad that people don't know when they are being played. The girls can dance to the rhythm but they don't understand the significance of the words. People should be offended. Ignorance is bliss.
Or it could be that 73 percent of population has African ancestry and Reggatone is closely related to Hip Hop. Naw, That could not possibly be it.Not sure what you mean, but go to Santo Domingo or Santiago, where most Dominicans live, and see how much French Montana you hear and how much Antony Santos you hear.
Alex Deuce
08-07-13, 03:03
Not sure what you mean, but go to Santo Domingo or Santiago, where most Dominicans live, and see how much French Montana you hear and how much Antony Santos you hear.A lot and out of their kids rooms you hear two chains, Drake, Rihanna and Niki Minaj. As well as at the Discos, car washes, and generally anywhere people not requiring canes or Viagra congregate. It's a country enamored with US hip hop culture. Reggeaton comes from rap or did that dude talking over African drums throw you off?
Alex Deuce
08-07-13, 03:22
Not sure what you mean, but go to Santo Domingo or Santiago, where most Dominicans live, and see how much French Montana you hear and how much Antony Santos you hear.That's like going into a major US city and pointing to Bb king and Phil Collins playing on the radio of a teens car and saying: see, I told ya so.
That's a foul ass pic. This kid will be in jail before he reaches 21. Blacks will never have shyt with this mindset. I'm Black, and hip-hop has set us blacks back hundreds of years, more than any Klan can ever do. If you don't like my post F-you, you put this shyt out there.Well I'm white and I love Hip Hop (at least alot of it). If you never noticed, the Rock and Pop Music (which I also love) starting in the 70s and after is pretty offensive and mysogenystic also. True, recent music has taken it to a new level, but that's pop culture. Always pushing the envelope. That seems to be what sells.
Just because you listen to Hip Hop Music doesn't mean you have to act like a thug, whatever your ethnic background.
Parkinsons
08-07-13, 06:28
Damn what's up with all the racist shyt up in here? Can't we all just get along? We have got to treat people as individuals! Stop generalizing! Stop lumping people together! Respect people respect!
Oh BTW, all Asians have small cocks.
Blk Big Bootyluv
08-07-13, 08:59
Nice way to use satire to address bias. Oh and for those say that a cross section of our society has propensity towards one type of behavior. Please educate yourself,
Slavery by another name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yHAEu2N024&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Peace
BBL.
Sorry Tomjackin. Gogo and I are no longer able to sit with you, since we saw you in this video with the all the rap star wannabees.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhH4G83Flo5KuOzdPH
(And to think, aren't we the mfs that initiated the place? It was empty before me, Tomjackin, and Gogo went up in there.)
Ath Trainer
08-07-13, 09:03
Damn what's up with all the racist shyt up in here? Can't we all just get along? We have got to treat people as individuals! Stop generalizing! Stop lumping people together! Respect people respect!
Oh BTW, all Asians have small cocks.Had a girl tell me tonight that all americans hate black girls, and like blondes. At least she got the second part right.
A lot and out of their kids rooms you hear two chains, Drake, Rihanna and Niki Minaj. As well as at the Discos, car washes, and generally anywhere people not requiring canes or Viagra congregate. It's a country enamored with US hip hop culture. Reggeaton comes from rap or did that dude talking over African drumbs throw you off?Deuce, you're entitled to you beliefs. If that is what you want to believe, more power to you. I live in Inwood now, but I grew up in a housing project so I know how to deal with certain types of people, whether its in the USA or the DR. I laugh at the bottles poppers and the rain makers trying to be Puff Diddy in the DR. It's comedy. I guess some people really do enjoy hearing N***** all day. I'm just not one of them. But like that great spokesperson for American black youth, Rachel Jeantel, said, that is how the youth think these days.
well i'm white and i love hip hop (at least alot of it). if you never noticed, the rock and pop music (which i also love) starting in the 70s and after is pretty offensive and mysogenystic also.it has always been that way with popular music. mac the knife, sung by louis armstrong, ella fitzgerald and many others was considered shocking in its day, and so was cole porter's i've got you under my skin, made popular by frank sinatra, but widely regarded as a tribute to heroin. strange fruit, one of billie holiday's most requested songs is about a lynching. bob geldof's i don't like mondays was about a serial killer, and sting's murder by numbers was taken to be a killing instruction book by the gullible ann landers, though it was actually intended to be satirical. moi non plus by serge gainsbourg and jane birkin featured a lot of orgasmic moaning, and my dingaling (i want you to play with) by chuck berry had decided **** overtones. peggy lee was a proto-rapper with the spoken song is that all there is, and bob marley chipped in with i shot the sheriff, causing some consternation in the us.
the beatles song lucy in the sky with diamonds was widely regarded as an incitement to use the drug lsd, and their song i saw her standing there starts with the lines "well, she was just seventeen, you know what i mean." yeah, we know exactly what you mean.
of course rap can deal with controversies too. the girls in d'latino's seem to understand this one very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nertfo-sk
Slavery by another name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yHAEu2N024&feature=youtube_gdata_playerVery true, and see this too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM23S12LXaE
Well I'm gonna be here for the rest of my life
I'm gonna be on this farm for my natural life
Well I'm a gonna be here for the rest of my life
And all I did was shoot my wife.
Alex Deuce
08-07-13, 13:45
Deuce, you're entitled to you beliefs. If that is what you want to believe, more power to you. I live in Inwood now, but I grew up in a housing project so I know how to deal with certain types of people, whether its in the USA or the DR. I laugh at the bottles poppers and the rain makers trying to be Puff Diddy in the DR. It's comedy. I guess some people really do enjoy hearing N***** all day. I'm just not one of them. But like that great spokesperson for American black youth, Rachel Jeantel, said, that is how the youth think these days.I have no problem with guys popping bottles, listening to load rap and acting an ass on their holiday. No issue with Timbos and Jerseys while out also. My singular issues are when stepping in a professional situation having the skill set and flat out common sense to act accordingly. However, Ghetto is ghetto and they deserve to have fun also. There is no difference between a drunken group of Bits, frat boys, Jersey Shore kids and these cats. Yall on Some other Race class crap.
Say what you want. Most of the girls love these guys as their closer to their ages, listen to roughly the same music and resemble what they see in rap videos. It's common sense. What do you think her first choice is if there are no dollars involved. Its going to be that kid in the Tims and La Laker jersey. Its not going to be an older gentleman poping Viagra every 20 seconds. Then to top it off, they pay better.
What's really coming out is an attempt to discredit the competition. A young kid of any ethnicity with money is always going to win out in DR. If he's a NY or Miami kid that knows that Barrio Slang its a rap; literaly. It's natural selection and 40 year old age differences between couples are not natural.
Had a girl tell me tonight that all americans hate black girls, and like blondes. At least she got the second part right.Sisters. Yes. Stinky Blondes. No.
I am new to the forum, but not to people like Orgasmico or others who try and use there racism to feel superior. The more I hear him or others like him on this forum, it makes me laugh! He says things to get a response out of people, he is no better than anyone else on this site and neither is other white people crying about hip hop changing DR etc. So what is it they feel insecure, because they lost control or is it that they can't keep up? They brain wash some into believing, their blond hair and blue eyes are superior and most people believe it.
So then they try and place there culture on you and some people say it's all the history we need to know and that's bullshit too! I came on this site to have fun and learn from open minded people, from different backgrounds. If the closed minded racist want to feel superior with there bullshit, then just don't pay them any mind.
Also one last thing, I live in upper Inwood and use to live in the projects too, if you really want to get a taste of DR before you go. Just come to Washington Heights. I learned from a young age, pussy or people has no color if treat them right!
Ath Trainer
08-07-13, 16:46
Got to dlatins early last night. Sat with a little thing for 1 drink. Could tell she was seasoned so eventually got rid of her.
Wasnt finding what I wanted. Eventually, little thing comes back. We start drinking. She's drinking like a fish. Getting late, and I cave in.
She askshow much I pay her. I say 1500, she says 2000. I say no, she caves right away.
We head to the hotel, but she's hungry. A hot dog, now a beer, and somehow minutes for her phone, I think. We leave, and she introduces me to her friend, a politor. We get to the room, she put the minutes jn her phone and is making calls. At one point, she puts me on the phone. She eats and drinks, and we get busy.
Her tits are bigger than expected, but baby worn. Scar from her naval going down. She's doing HJ for a while, and eventually asks for a cover. Wqnts doggie. Her pussy is very tight. I don't last long, which is a big surprise since she's killed the mood. We finish, she goes to the bathroom, comes out and asks if I want her to leave. She asks for 100 for the moto, I decline. Walk her out, and another moto asks if I want weed.
She seemed to know a lot of gringos, and they seemed ok with her, making me think she was just a little crazy. Trust your first instinct. It was as late as I felt it was. Should have continued looking. Need to be more aggressive getting what I like.
Lesson learned, no major damage.
I got scared went you mentioned she introduced you to politur and started making phone calls. Sounded like she was about to scam you by extorting money from you with the help of politur.
Got to dlatins early last night. Sat with a little thing for 1 drink. Could tell she was seasoned so eventually got rid of her.
Wasnt finding what I wanted. Eventually, little thing comes back. We start drinking. She's drinking like a fish. Getting late, and I cave in.
She askshow much I pay her. I say 1500, she says 2000. I say no, she caves right away.
We head to the hotel, but she's hungry. A hot dog, now a beer, and somehow minutes for her phone, I think. We leave, and she introduces me to her friend, a politor. We get to the room, she put the minutes jn her phone and is making calls. At one point, she puts me on the phone...
Dominicans are very proud of their culture, and that includes their music, which is loved all over the world. The girls in Sosua will go and listen to whatever the money tells them to listen to. They will dance to gangman style or country music if its going to make them money.
The reason you hear American black rap music much, much more in Sosua than in places like Santiago or Santo Domingo is because the businesses in Sosua are deliberately catering to the black bike week type mongers. The same reason places like The Spot are posting vids of popping bottles and making it rain. There are also younger black guys now "living" in Sosua who are helping to facilitate this by working with the business owners and helping the DJs get that type of music.
Sosua mongers are getting younger and younger and more and more urban. Next time you go down, this will be your tour guide str8 from NYC!If many of the girls in Sosua are listening to whatever the money tells them to listen to, and dance to whatever style if it makes them money. Doesn't it stand to reason then, that these same girls will also be the biatches, hoes, and good for nothing sluts depicted in the music and videos they listen to and watch, for the same reason? Because it's going to make them money?
And if this is true, then I can see why many vet mongers say Sosua has changed for the worse. I'm not suggesting every chica is living up to that image, but I'm sure there has to be something going on in the minds of chicas who may feel that many of these young mongers that come to Sosua "acting out their fantasy" think of them as biatches, hoes and sluts. I've even heard guys on the beach or at NG talking shit about chicas, not even caring who was listening. So I'm sure enough chicas hearing this shit, or knowing theses are the types of things being said about them, or just being treated like an insignificant hoe. Many of these chicas have become hardened and mechanical in their dealings with mongers. But they are very good actresses because getting that money 1st is important. They know how to smile and act like it's all about you. Until they are in safe company. What they reveal among allies or friends is a different story. Just like most mongers, aint going to say how they really feel or think to a chicas face."Were all actors in this I suppose". As Gil Scott Heron said in a song he did called "B Movie".
If many of the girls in Sosua are listening to whatever the money tells them to listen to, and dance to whatever style if it makes them money. Doesn't it stand to reason then, that these same girls will also be the biatches, hoes, and good for nothing sluts depicted in the music and videos they listen to and watch, for the same reason? Because it's going to make them money?I am sure you are right and they just follow the money. They are good little actresses. There is a chica called Yenny whom I have known for a couple of years and had a few encounters with. Whenever she sees me in the street she is full of it, how she loves me, blah, blah, blah, like we are special friends. Today I almost bumped into her in the supermarket, but before saying hi I though I should check whom she was with and noted she was with a middle aged German guy. I might just have well been invisible and she gave no sign of knowing me, not even a glance, and same again a few minutes later in the parking lot. Yet I have no doubt that the next time I see her we will be "friends" and she will laugh about the incident in the supermarket.
I doubt whether exposure to US popular music will change the behavior of any of them one-on-one in the bedroom, and as for the guys publicly talking disrespectfully about the women with other men, that is just bravado and nerves to cover up for being pussy whipped in the bedroom. Music is just one form of entertainment and it doesn't influence people all that much once they are past the teenage years and earning a living.
A lot and out of their kids rooms you hear two chains, Drake, Rihanna and Niki Minaj. As well as at the Discos, car washes, and generally anywhere people not requiring canes or Viagra congregate. It's a country enamored with US hip hop culture. Reggeaton comes from rap or did that dude talking over African drumbs throw you off?This is all understood. My point would be, it's not hip hop or reggaetone music soley It can be any music that inspires negative behavior or degrades people. It just so happens, that much of the music that fits that criterior seems to be perpetrated within certain negative or degrading rap, hip hop or reggaetone music.
It's not where the music comes from, this is about whats depicted and the messages in the music that may be inspiring certain negativity into certain people. Media is a strong component in inspiring behavior in people. Good, bad and ugly.
I used to work in harlem at a fastfood joint flipping burgers. There were 3 black stations. They were NOT easy listening stations. But when I had one of those stations on, the people came into the restaurant were loud, boisterious and sometimes disrespectful to us that worked there. Plus they would use the restaurant as a hangout. Much like what many folks see today in their neighborhoods. Dudes hanging around in or outside.
One day, I decided not to put on any of the black stations, I put on WPAT easy listening music. That "Strangers in the Night" kinda music. The result? People came in quiet, left quiet. Ordered food respectfully, and got the fuck out of there. They couldn't stand hanging around and listening to that type of music. They couldn't relate to it. So it may not have inspired them to any great degree.
But the local black stations, they related to that, and the vibe and messages in that music inspired a change in behavior. So where am I going with this? I'm saying some of that rap, hiphop or reggaetone music may be instrumental in inspiring a change in behavior in many of these chicas. In order to make that money, they feel the need to meet the expectations of the younger mongers who are inspired by the negative rap, hip hop or reggaetone. A change in behavior, means a change to what many vets were used to seeing in Sosua.
But as Mr O said. Many mongers don't even know how things used to be, and can't relate. So talking about this issue means nothing to them. However, no monger wants to be blamed for something they werent directly responsible for just because they may be younger, or they like or listen to rap, hip hop or reggaetone music. So, I understand that too.
One day, I decided not to put on any of the black stations, I put on WPAT easy listening music. That "Strangers in the Night" kinda music. The result? People came in quiet, left quiet. Ordered food respectfully, and got the fuck out of there. They couldn't stand hanging around and listening to that type of music. They couldn't relate to it. So it may not have inspired them to any great degree.Yes, music can change the ambience in a particular location, no doubt of that. But if you go to D'Latino's at night what you notice most is that the music is so deafening, it is impossible to have a conversation with anyone, flirt, or do anything other than dance (which makes people thirsty) or buy and consume drinks. If you do try to talk, you have to shout and that quickly makes you thirsty. I imagine that is management's game plan. Another side effect of extreme noise is that to talk to someone you have to get very close to their ear, which leads to opportunities for touching, which leads to sexual arousal and sales opportunities for vendors of sexual entertainment. It is all pretty basic.
I doubt whether exposure to US popular music will change the behavior of any of them one-on-one in the bedroom, and as for the guys publicly talking disrespectfully about the women with other men, that is just bravado and nerves to cover up for being pussy whipped in the bedroom. Music is just one form of entertainment and it doesn't influence people all that much once they are past the teenage years and earning a living.I don't think that doubt is a problem. Thats your doubt. You are in entitled to be doubtful. However, in the bedroom is not where I think the focus should be. The change in behavior may be cultivated way before the bedroom. And it is often manifested in what happens as contact is initiated until the whole ordeal is over. I'm not focused on what the disrespectful talk means in regards to the mongers disposition, I'm talking about what it means to the chicas that hear it, and how they process that information in their dealings with mongers. And how mongers may find themselves dealing with a chica that has preconceived ideas of how mongers feel about them. Leading to hardcore and / or mechanical behavior in general.
You say music is just a form of entertainment, and it doesn't influence people all that much etc etc etc. I say you are right to whom and to where it applies. But I would definitely like to know your reasons you are using to support that statement other than being counter argumentative. I say music can have a great influence on people well into adult life. I just gave a real life example in my previous post. Many adults to this day, have admitted that they were caught up in music they listened to which inspired them to have sex. It's just people are not going to walk around admitting they were influenced to certain behavior or characteristics especially when the behavior is not something one should be proud of later on in life. Besides, the influence was subliminal. Some people may not know what and how they were inspired by forms of media.
Another question. What about the chicas in Sosua who are past being teenagers? Those that are earning a living selling pussy, even though it's not a regular job. Would you say they arent influenced that much by certain types of music either? I'm just saying if you believe what you wrote, then that should apply to those chicas too. However many of the chicas in Sosua are living examples of how certain music and other media has cultivated their behavior. By the way they look, talk, dress, carry themselves. Many look and carry themselves just like the females in popular american music and video. Moreover, it was said that chicas will do what it takes to get the money, so it's not unreasonable to fathom chicas being heavily influenced to embrace certain types of music and manifest that it by acting and wanting to be like the women in the music and videos. C-Mo cakes video is a good example to draw from.
A group of us will be arriving the last week of Aug. We have rented a Villa for the retire trip in Sosua and was wondering if anyone knows of a female person to housekeep / cook / maid etc. For the week. It's our 3-4 time here in DR; however, previously we have been at BB and have become more confident with the surrounding, driving, and culture. We have made several day visits in Sosua on our previous trips. Your advice, suggestions, and contact info for the housekeeper with what is the average cost would be greatly appreciate. If needed, you may PM me with the info.
Yes, music can change the ambience in a particular location, no doubt of that. But if you go to D'Latino's at night what you notice most is that the music is so deafening, it is impossible to have a conversation with anyone, flirt, or do anything other than dance (which makes people thirsty) or buy and consume drinks. If you do try to talk, you have to shout and that quickly makes you thirsty. I imagine that is management's game plan. Another side effect of extreme noise is that to talk to someone you have to get very close to their ear, which leads to opportunities for touching, which leads to sexual arousal and sales opportunities for vendors of sexual entertainment. It is all pretty basic.Music can do more than change the ambiance of a location. It can also influence behavior. As I pointed out in my example. The customers behavior changed along with the music or ambiance if you will. Your point about noise and deafening music is understood, however I wasnt talking about noise and music levels. I was talking about the music itself, how it was received, and how it inspired a change in behavior.
Another question. What about the chicas in Sosua who are past being teenagers? Those that are earning a living selling pussy, even though it's not a regular job. Would you say they arent influenced that much by certain types of music either? I'm just saying if you believe what you wrote, then that should apply to those chicas too. However many of the chicas in Sosua are living examples of how certain music and other media has cultivated their behavior. By the way they look, talk, dress, carry themselves. Many look and carry themselves just like the females in popular american music and video. Moreover, it was said that chicas will do what it takes to get the money, so it's not unreasonable to fathom chicas being heavily influenced to embrace certain types of music and manifest that it by acting and wanting to be like the women in the music and videos. C-Mo cakes video is a good example to draw from.Well, for decades, or since the fifties there has always been this interaction between popular musicians and their fans involving demonstrating and following fashions. For example by the early seventies almost every white man in the UK and US was sporting longer hair and sideburns, in contrast to the short-back-and sides or military buzz cuts that followed World War II, or the greaser look popularized by Elvis. But most of those men were not directly influenced by musicians.
http://media.theweek.com/img/dir_0101/50546_article_full/president-jimmy-carter-nbsppictured-in-1976.jpg?175
The chicas in Sosua don't dress like most of the young women I have seen in the US. They dress in cheap clothes available locally that enhance whatever sexual characteristics they think they can sell. So if they have nice abs, they wear a bare midriff, if they have a big butt and short legs like Jennifer Lopez, they will probably wear high heels to disguise this. If they have big tits, they will wear a low decolletage.
It is just as likely that rap videos (which are artefacts) are influenced by the appearance of Dominican prostitutes.
The C-Mo cakes video is too boring to take more than a minute of, but from what I recall there were a few chicas and guys skinny dipping in a pool at night, pouring drink in the pool, smoking what might have been illegal substances, and posing for the camera, but since the girls were obviously being paid to participate and looked slightly embarrassed, I don't think it tells you much about anything.
Almost a year ago the management of el flow decided that they will no longer play reggaeton and dembow music. Don't remember what other style of music they banned. They opted for merengue bachata salsa and pop and dance. They admitted that theirb previous musical selections were attracting the type of crowd they wanted to eliminate. I don't blame them. As a man was shot and killed right in front of the place a year ago during a fight. The video even made it on youtube.
This is all understood. My point would be, it's not hip hop or reggaetone music soley It can be any music that inspires negative behavior or degrades people. It just so happens, that much of the music that fits that criterior seems to be perpetrated within certain negative or degrading rap, hip hop or reggaetone music.
It's not where the music comes from, this is about whats depicted and the messages in the music that may be inspiring certain negativity into certain people. Media is a strong component in inspiring behavior in people. Good, bad and ugly.
I used to work in harlem at a fastfood joint flipping burgers. There were 3 black stations. They were NOT easy listening stations. But when I had one of those stations on, the people came into the restaurant were loud, boisterious and sometimes disrespectful to us that worked there. Plus they would use the restaurant as a hangout. Much like what many folks see today in their neighborhoods...
Well, for decades, or since the fifties there has always been this interaction between popular musicians and their fans involving demonstrating and following fashions. For example by the early seventies almost every white man in the UK and US was sporting longer hair and sideburns, in contrast to the short-back-and sides or military buzz cuts that followed World War II, or the greaser look popularized by Elvis. But most of those men were not directly influenced by musicians.
http://media.theweek.com/img/dir_0101/50546_article_full/president-jimmy-carter-nbsppictured-in-1976.jpg?175
The chicas in Sosua don't dress like most of the young women I have seen in the US. They dress in cheap clothes available locally that enhance whatever sexual characteristics they think they can sell. So if they have nice abs, they wear a bare midriff, if they have a big butt and short legs like Jennifer Lopez, they will probably wear high heels to disguise this. If they have big tits, they will wear a low decolletage.
It is just as likely that rap videos (which are artefacts) are influenced by the appearance of Dominican prostitutes.
The C-Mo cakes video is too boring to take more than a minute of, but from what I recall there were a few chicas and guys skinny dipping in a pool at night, pouring drink in the pool, smoking what might have been illegal substances, and posing for the camera, but since the girls were obviously being paid to participate and looked slightly embarrassed, I don't think it tells you much about anything.There are a lot of chicas in Sosua. Which chicas are you referring to? You speaking for all Sosua chicas, or just the ones you have seen like the young women in the US? This could be important. Most of the women that you have seen in the US is hardly what I would rely on as a counter argument to what I said. I never considered the young women you saw in the US, as a control group to compare all of the Sosua chicas to. I also don't see what Sosua chicas wearing cheap clothes has to do with anything. Even if the clothes are cheap, the point remains that enough of the chicas are trying to emulate the women depicted in american culture, in the music and in videos. In behavior and in dress. Dressing sexy goes with the territory because the idea is to attract attention. How you dress is one aspect, but how you carry yourself is another. There are many factors that may be driving behavior. All I'm saying is that some of that behavior that is emulated or copied, one factor is influenced by media (music. Video, tv etc ).
In regards to the video, of course if your scope is limited, and / or your focus is merely to be opposed in argument, you arent expected to think much of what you arent able or willing to see or understand. I will accept that position for what it is worth. As far as the video being boring. Thats just a matter of opinion, taste or tolerance. The truth is, it was boring to you, and only to whom it applies to. Even if you don't think it, or don't see it, or have doubt about something. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist or it doesn't apply to anyone at anytime somewhere. If thats the depth of your counter-arguments, thats not a strong position. They have a name for that sort of thing when it comes to how some people choose to debate or argue things they disagree with. I can't recall it at the moment. But, I call it the ostrich debate tactic."I can't see your point, because I can't see." "Yeah, but your head is in the sand." "I know, but if I pull it out, I "doubt" that will change anything", and I don't want to C more, because I just don't want to see." "Okay, I get your point, this is an esoteric conversation". LOL
Got to dlatins early last night. Sat with a little thing for 1 drink. Could tell she was seasoned so eventually got rid of her.
Wasnt finding what I wanted. Eventually, little thing comes back. We start drinking. She's drinking like a fish. Getting late, and I cave in.
She askshow much I pay her. I say 1500, she says 2000. I say no, she caves right away.
We head to the hotel, but she's hungry. A hot dog, now a beer, and somehow minutes for her phone, I think. We leave, and she introduces me to her friend, a politor. We get to the room, she put the minutes jn her phone and is making calls. At one point, she puts me on the phone. She eats and drinks, and we get busy.
Her tits are bigger than expected, but baby worn. Scar from her naval going down. She's doing HJ for a while, and eventually asks for a cover. Wqnts doggie. Her pussy is very tight. I don't last long, which is a big surprise since she's killed the mood. We finish, she goes to the bathroom, comes out and asks if I want her to leave. She asks for 100 for the moto, I decline. Walk her out, and another moto asks if I want weed.
She seemed to know a lot of gringos, and they seemed ok with her, making me think she was just a little crazy. Trust your first instinct. It was as late as I felt it was. Should have continued looking. Need to be more aggressive getting what I like.
Lesson learned, no major damage.Sounds like this chica named Claritza I encountered in July. Except she didn't have big tits. No food, drink or minutes was bought. But at one point while we were supposed to be getting busy, her phone moved from the night stand and ended up in the bed. It wasnt long before I told her I had enough, I started getting dressed and said she could go.
Sounds like this chica named Claritza I encountered in July. Except she didn't have big tits. No food, drink or minutes was bought. But at one point while we were supposed to be getting busy, her phone moved from the night stand and ended up in the bed. It wasnt long before I told her I had enough, I started getting dressed and said she could go.I got to get you on this one brother; so she probably was texting while you were humping with your eyes closed? LOL. Just fucking with you bro. But real talk, thats why I have no interest in fucking any of those D'latins girls. I would bang a girl that hangs out in New Gardens all day first. At least you are guaranteed a good effort without the bullshit. Damn! Chicas are asking for phone minutes now?
Ath Trainer
08-08-13, 01:55
Sounds like this chica named Claritza I encountered in July. Except she didn't have big tits. No food, drink or minutes was bought. But at one point while we were supposed to be getting busy, her phone moved from the night stand and ended up in the bed. It wasnt long before I told her I had enough, I started getting dressed and said she could go.Her tits were not big, just bigger than expected. Not claudetta. Showed me her cedula. Began with a m. Thinks she's 25.
Her tits were not big, just bigger than expected. Not claudetta. Showed me her cedula. Began with a m. Thinks she's 25.I wasnt alluding to her being the same girl, just that some of what happened with you, happened to me. I too sensed something wasnt right with my chica. She kept coming around, until I decided to give her a try. Once in my spot I realized she was a mistake. Before we got to my spot I let her know that I didn't want things to be rushed. But thats exactly what she tried to do. Having the cell phone in the bed also killed the mood for me.
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
For mongers the Sosua sex scene basically consists of 3 blocks with 5 large outdoor bars. The strip has about 200 girls which are looking to session with as many tourists per day as possible.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip. There is no reason to spend more than 1 week in Sosua. It gets old real fast.
I felt like a sex tourist in Sosua. There are no families vacationing there only guys.
Charles Pooter
08-08-13, 04:19
The Beatles . song "I Saw Her Standing There" starts with the lines "Well, she was just seventeen, You know what I mean." Yeah, we know exactly what you mean.I imagine they were referring to something that is natural and perfectly legal in their own country. You have been too long in the colonies, Frannie.
Thanks for the review. My experience was quite the opposite and I was there for 3 days, and it wasn't enough time. Of course everyones experience varies at monger locations, some might like Pattaya better than Sosua and vice versa. Each is different and there are positives for all these locations, otherwise I don't think you would see so many people there.
I think patience is key, and although it's easy to get with any girl you can't always expect there to be 8s and 9s in every corner that you look. I personally found plenty of 6s and 7s, and in the evening hours there were plenty of 8s to be found in the right places. Yes there are some girls that are overweight, but there are plenty that are average and slim as well. The 3 blocks and the outdoor bars get plenty of attention and because of the density during the evening hours it's easy to think "well this is all there is here." but you walk around Sosua and there are streetwalkers everywhere and chicas sitting in smaller bars. I was actually pleasantly surprised by this, the first night I stuck to the large outdoor bars on Pedro Clisante but the next day during the early afternoon I ventured out 10-15 mins walk from Rumba. Quite a few girls walking on the streets and it was more than I expected, especially for the daytime. At night if you walk around, it will be even more girls.
As for the quality of girls I was with, I have fairly high standard (I like to think so anyways) and it didn't take me very long to find someone I was attracted to. A couple girls did indeed have kids, but they still looked good. I honestly wish I had been a little more patient on my first trip to Sosua, it didn't take long to get with a girl. As a matter of fact the very first bar I went to I had a girl approach me within 60 seconds of receiving my drink and she was a 7 on my scale. Not a bad start at all. I looked around and saw a couple 7s, a few 5's and sure there were your usual 3s and 4s which are expected. But the quality was still there and I wanted to build a slight connection with the girls I was with, my Spanish is still not great (I know basic words and can get by with a few sentences) but I am learning and am sure in time it will become even better. The girls do seem to enjoy a guy trying to speak Spanish, it made me feel a bit more at ease as well. The reason why I wish I had more patience was because there was higher quality all around and I would usually see one or have one approach me and settle for that. And once I got done and the girl left I kept thinking about the other girls that I saw and was hoping I'd run into them later on during the day. I only recall running into the same girl maybe once or twice max, but not more than that. There were far too many girls to keep my eyes wandering, and I wasn't looking for the same girl I was with only a few hours earlier. I wanted different every time, I got different every time.
It's not a family destination, but I still saw families. More than I expected, but they were mostly on the beach. Pedro Clisante with all the bars and all the girls is for guys, and families will naturally try to stay away from these areas so it's easy to also think that there are no families around at all. There's just more to Sosua than 3 blocks, and if you venture outside the usual area. You see plenty more. And I'll be back soon to experience it.
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
For mongers the Sosua sex scene basically consists of 3 blocks with 5 large outdoor bars. The strip has about 200 girls which are looking to session with as many tourists per day as possible.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip. There is no reason to spend more than 1 week in Sosua. It gets old real fast.
I felt like a sex tourist in Sosua. There are no families vacationing there only guys.
Going to Sosua and feeling like a sex tourist. How is that possible?daaa 3 days is about all I can do in Sosua. However I have a huge smile on my and no juice left in my Dick, Please tell me he is joking/
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
For mongers the Sosua sex scene basically consists of 3 blocks with 5 large outdoor bars. The strip has about 200 girls which are looking to session with as many tourists per day as possible.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip. There is no reason to spend more than 1 week in Sosua. It gets old real fast.
I felt like a sex tourist in Sosua. There are no families vacationing there only guys.
Chris Long
08-08-13, 06:29
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
For mongers the Sosua sex scene basically consists of 3 blocks with 5 large outdoor bars. The strip has about 200 girls which are looking to session with as many tourists per day as possible.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip. There is no reason to spend more than 1 week in Sosua. It gets old real fast.
I felt like a sex tourist in Sosua. There are no families vacationing there only guys.Yuck no way 200 girls all available within an easy to walk three block radies and they all have nice thick bootys, and they all just want to jump my bones, icky, Yucky, And no family tourist either, aww man that F'and blow's
You mean they all have kids as well!"gosh" you never see that in America.
I think you are looking for Punta Cana you will find plenty of families vacationing there.
Chris
Mr Enternational
08-08-13, 07:03
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip.At any sex destination, bar, strip club or brothel on this planet, you will see the same women day after day. The object is to fuck different ones.
Grandnash84
08-08-13, 07:07
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
For mongers the Sosua sex scene basically consists of 3 blocks with 5 large outdoor bars. The strip has about 200 girls which are looking to session with as many tourists per day as possible.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip. There is no reason to spend more than 1 week in Sosua. It gets old real fast.
I felt like a sex tourist in Sosua. There are no families vacationing there only guys.Agree with you about being bored there. 4 days is the longest I can be in Sosua and even then its gets boring. You do see the same girls over and over especially if you go there several times a year. You just got to get numbers and space out the girls during the day to kill the boredom.
The Mind Bender
08-08-13, 09:11
I find vacations to Sosua are best keep short and sweet (under 7 days)
When you find a great girl the time flies by but if you have bad experiences just a few days can feel like eternity
I got to get you on this one brother; so she probably was texting while you were humping with your eyes closed? LOL. Just fucking with you bro. But real talk, thats why I have no interest in fucking any of those D'latins girls. I would bang a girl that hangs out in New Gardens all day first. At least you are guaranteed a good effort without the bullshit. Damn! Chicas are asking for phone minutes now?Not exactly. LOL. It started with a massage. She was straddling me giving me the massage. When that was done thats when I noticed the phone had moved from the nightstand to the bed. She must have got that sucker when she reached for the lotion. My guess is she wanted to text, but if she couldn't do that she wanted to at least check to see who called or left messages.
I have heard guys say you should avoid chicas that approach you. To a certain extent I agree with that. About 30 minutes after that chica left, another chica came over that I met earlier that day. She handled her business, and she was pretty good. Stayed the night even though we never discussed price or how long she was to stay. BTW both chicas I met while sitting at Rockys. I think both chicas are more Rumba types rather than Dlatins. I have met more chicas sitting at Rockys than all my trips to Rumba or Dlatins. At Rockys I have the opportunity to vet them some without the noise or other distractions.
Almost a year ago the management of el flow decided that they will no longer play reggaeton and dembow music. Don't remember what other style of music they banned. They opted for merengue bachata salsa and pop and dance. They admitted that theirb previous musical selections were attracting the type of crowd they wanted to eliminate. I don't blame them. As a man was shot and killed right in front of the place a year ago during a fight. The video even made it on youtube.Thanks for sharing that example. There may have been several shootings that occured at or near El Flow. One shooting I recall, happened last year August (I was there 3 days before) was with dominican men. But that incident may not be directly influenced by the music or the clientel at El Flow. Those guys were in a dispute with each other, plus other people were involved. That dispute moved from one club to the next. It just happened to end in front of El Flow. But I agree with you. The management probably did decide to change their musical selection at some point to appeal to a certain crowd / vibe (dominicans / locals) , and eliminate another.
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
For mongers the Sosua sex scene basically consists of 3 blocks with 5 large outdoor bars. The strip has about 200 girls which are looking to session with as many tourists per day as possible.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast seeing the same girls every night on the strip. There is no reason to spend more than 1 week in Sosua. It gets old real fast.
I felt like a sex tourist in Sosua. There are no families vacationing there only guys.It's a good thing we each think in our own heads. LOL.
For me, going to the beach to bath, drink, eat, snooze and possibly meet honies is enjoyable. Meeting guys for conversation or hanging out is enjoyable. Having my regulars meet me in Sosua is enjoyable. Occasionally having chicas cook is enjoyable. Going on day trips with favoritas or with friends is enjoyable. Trying out different restaurants in Sosua is enjoyable. Discovering different hotels or potential rental opps is enjoyable. Going to the dentist and getting work done cheaply is a blessing. Getting daily massages on the cheap is enjoyable. Getting a pedi or manicure is enjoyable. I enjoy going to the ball field and watch the youth or adults play. I don't do this, but friends of mine enjoy diving in Sosua. Some guys go to Cabarete for wind surfing. I enjoy having chicas teach me their dance moves. How about just relaxing and not concerned about work or other obligations, enjoying warm weather, especially when it's winter where one lives?
There are always new girls coming to Sosua day to day, month to month, some only later in the evenings. Even girls that took time off for various reasons and then came back (having their period etc) If a guy can see over a hundred plus women, that means those women are available for fucking. What about the other 2 or 3 hundred women not there at the time, but will show up sooner or later? You mean, a monger can't find a few sexy women that meets his physical expectations? Sosua aint a brothel with physical requirements. WTF are picky mongers looking for in a mongering destination? If the woman is of age, her having kids is more likely than not. Sosua boring based on someone elses "week" vacation? I don't think so. Like I have said before. One can only think in one head. And where ones stands on an issue depends on where they sit.
I imagine they were referring to something that is natural and perfectly legal in their own country. You have been too long in the colonies, Frannie."He was sweet, just turned eighteen.
Well she was good, you know what I mean." [Summer Nights from Grease].
Almost certainly just an easy rhyme, Pooter! (But 17 in the UK would be what they call "barely legal" in the US.)
Sosua boring based on someone elses "week" vacation? I don't think so. Like I have said before. One can only think in one head. And where ones stands on an issue depends on where they sit.What he said. And what would one be doing at home that was more interesting? However the writer was perhaps simply starting to confront the issue that, having experienced it, meaningless sex with a different woman every day is not quite as rewarding as one might expect if ones expectations are based on fantasies, Internet porn, etc. And that the law of diminishing returns quickly kicks in, with successive encounters becoming progressively less novel and exciting. If you don't speak the language, that magnifies the effect.
I find vacations to Sosua are best keep short and sweet (under 7 days)
When you find a great girl the time flies by but if you have bad experiences just a few days can feel like eternityI find that folks that complain about a place, it's often because they themselves did not have a good time. Has nothing to do with the place. For instance. You can have a group of women go to a club together. The ones who danced and possibly met someone will report having a good time, while the women that sat on their ass, never danced and never interacted with anyone when approached will claim the place was lousy or boring.
Wild and Loose by The Time has a section in the song where some chicks are in the club digging on members of the group. They are having a great time, until they get get dissed by Morris Day. Then the girls quickly change their tune, call him a jerk and claim that was the worst concert they have ever been to. That's why I say. Where one stands on the issue usually depends on where they sit. Their POV will change depending on what they experienced. I'd guarantee, if that same type of individual met an unfortunate incident with a chica or the police, they would definitely blame their whole misfortune on Sosua.
Thanks for sharing that example. There may have been several shootings that occured at or near El Flow. One shooting I recall, happened last year August (I was there 3 days before) was with dominican men. But that incident may not be directly influenced by the music or the clientel at El Flow. Those guys were in a dispute with each other, plus other people were involved. That dispute moved from one club to the next. It just happened to end in front of El Flow. But I agree with you. The management probably did decide to change their musical selection at some point to appeal to a certain crowd / vibe (dominicans / locals) , and eliminate another.Both of those videos are deep in the Gogo forum. The killing was the ending of an altercation that started at El Toros with some Canadian guys disrespecting a Dominican who went and got his friend. The friend bought his gun. The video is riveting as the guy with the gun is ambushed by a guy with a chair.
The other one is the girl who looks like "Halle Berry" walking in and pistol whipping a couple people before shooting and leaving. Anyone esnt to see the video, check back about 15 months in the gogo forum.
And what would one be doing at home that was more interesting? . If you don't speak the language, that magnifies the effect.That's a good point. Why go to Sosua if where one came from is supposedly more interesting? And of course a language barrier or unable to relate to the culture can also be a major factor.
I have heard people talking and saying that they hate Sosua. Then later find out that they had been wronged by a working girl. If you have a bad time in Sosua because of a working girl don't blame the area for they are a lot of good people there that would help you out in any way infact if they would have ask some of the local's about the girl that had wronged them they would have told them to leave that chica alone.
Most of the girls have kids and are alittle overweight. It gets boring real fast.Some guys can only make it happen in Sosua. If you're not one of those guys, there are plenty of opportunities to mix things up in other cities and countries. Don't let the grass grow between your toes; keep it movin'.
I have heard people talking and saying that they hate Sosua. Then later find out that they had been wronged by a working girl. If you have a bad time in Sosua because of a working girl don't blame the area for they are a lot of good people there that would help you out in any way infact if they would have ask some of the local's about the girl that had wronged them they would have told them to leave that chica alone.True! In addition, some have become disappointed or turned off because much of Sosua's action may not resemble what they were used to. Unable or unwilling to adapt (in Sosua) , they resort to disliking Sosua and moving on. Which is fine. Their departure does not ruin someone elses vacation or ability to make new friends.
Some guys can only make it happen in Sosua. If you're not one of those guys, there are plenty of opportunities to mix things up in other cities and countries. Don't let the grass grow between your toes; keep it movin'.True, don't let grass grow between your toes. This last trip. I was back and forth between SD, Santiago, Puerto Plata and Sosua. I stayed in Sosua 3 different days / nights while on vacation. I went elsewhere to check out other contacts I had in other cities. All done in 12 short days. Stayed 15 days in Sosua in May / June. Rented a car and was all over the place.
Alex Deuce
08-08-13, 13:35
I have heard people talking and saying that they hate Sosua. Then later find out that they had been wronged by a working girl. If you have a bad time in Sosua because of a working girl don't blame the area for they are a lot of good people there that would help you out in any way infact if they would have ask some of the local's about the girl that had wronged them they would have told them to leave that chica alone.Actually, never had a bad experience with a girl in Sosua. Scammed once or twice for a drink but really didn't care. What I dislike about Sosewer is its Viper Pit vibe. After a while the large congregation of Mongers wears on you. After about 2 days of busting nuts, it becomes disturbing to be chilling at the bar talking to chicas as the guy next to you is running down a porn check list with every chick that passes by and wondering why he is being quoted outlandish prices and having bad outcomes.
I'm actually hoping they close Passions, CMP and alike down with major demolition of the remaining jack shacks. Its like Rio has simply gone too far and not just because of the "Bottle Poppers" Mainly the scooglies so called directing traffic and self proclaimed vets.
Ath Trainer
08-08-13, 14:02
Is latino market still the best place to buy generic viagra? Didn't look like much of a pharmacy.
Whats the next best choice closer to the action?
Is latino market still the best place to buy generic viagra? Didn't look like much of a pharmacy.
Whats the next best choice closer to the action?It is not a pharmacy, it is a convenience store, but it is the cheapest. You can buy the same generic Viagra from the money change guys for five times the price (I think they get it from Latino Minimarket) if you can't be bothered to walk a few hundred yards. Or you can get it in the pharmacies. There is one at the Metro Bus station, about 30 yards from Rumba Bar. Is that close enough?
ReadyToGetOnIt
08-08-13, 16:18
Going to Sosua and feeling like a sex tourist. How is that possible?daaa 3 days is about all I can do in Sosua. However I have a huge smile on my and no juice left in my Dick, Please tell me he is joking/I've been going for so long, I got to the point where 4 days was all I could take. But then I learned something. I was going from Thursday to Sunday. That means "Rush-Hour" and everything that comes with it (only middle seats available on the flights, high flight prices, weekend "ballers", and the putas that love to shake them down, etc)
So I started going from Sunday to Friday. That way, I can catch the weekend girls that haven't left yet, and then enjoy a semi-peaceful week and bail out just when the new arrival mongers show up, and the hardcore weekend putas return. Chicas are much more open to negotiating on a Tuesday than on Saturday night.
Just my $.02
Ath Trainer
08-08-13, 16:20
It is not a pharmacy, it is a convenience store, but it is the cheapest. You can buy the same generic Viagra from the money change guys for five times the price (I think they get it from Latino Minimarket) if you can't be bothered to walk a few hundred yards. Or you can get it in the pharmacies. There is one at the Metro Bus station, about 30 yards from Rumba Bar. Is that close enough?Not too far, just a little intimidated going into a neighbood little store to buy v. Local girl working the front counter.
Updates: BBL is on the scene and gave me a report this morning.
Four Roses is closed.
Domino bar is closed.
Winners circle is demolished.
Beach vendors being moved out.
Not too far, just a little intimidated going into a neighbood little store to buy v. Local girl working the front counter.The woman on the cash register most of the time is the novia of the owner, an English guy, and she is not easily shocked. I think sales of sildenafil and tadalafil are one of their major lines of business, and they have some excellent condoms at a good price too. Anyway when you walk in there, they have a pretty good idea what you are there for, it is either the pills or the cold beer. You can sit at a table outside and enjoy your beer, so sidewalk cafe experience at colmado price.
The pharmacies also have local girls working there, though in one pharmacy they are often wearing Cialis brand polo shirts, in case you forgot what you came in for.
BTW, there is another pharmacy just half a block from New Garden hotel, next to the Bon ice cream parlor.
SavePros321
08-08-13, 16:46
From Sosua News:
"We have seen an increase in the number of motoconchos (motorcycle taxis) in Sosúa the past few months. A reporter of Noticias ENN asked some motoconchos what has caused this. They said that the decline in the tourism sector is the cause that a lot of workers have lost their jobs. For example, Pablo Martínez and Juan José de la Cruz worded for more than ten years in the hotel industry. Now they are fired, they were forced to look for another source of income. Out of necessity they have now chosen to become motoconchos to make money to support their families. The problem is that there are now more motoconchos than tourists. The transport of school kids has also come to an end for the school holiday. So the life of a motoconcho is therefore more difficult."
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3420&article=1
NOTICE the article said "decline in the tourism sector". There is no tourism other than sex tourism in Sosua, so are the referring to a decline in tourism island wide? From what others have said here, places like New Garden and Mary Rose have been booked solid. So monger tourism is still thriving?
From Sosua News:
"We have seen an increase in the number of motoconchos (motorcycle taxis) in Sosúa the past few months. A reporter of Noticias ENN asked some motoconchos what has caused this. They said that the decline in the tourism sector is the cause that a lot of workers have lost their jobs. For example, Pablo Martínez and Juan José de la Cruz worded for more than ten years in the hotel industry. Now they are fired, they were forced to look for another source of income. Out of necessity they have now chosen to become motoconchos to make money to support their families. The problem is that there are now more motoconchos than tourists. The transport of school kids has also come to an end for the school holiday. So the life of a motoconcho is therefore more difficult."
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3420&article=1
NOTICE The article said "decline in the tourism sector". There is no tourism other than sex tourism in Sosua, so are the referring to a decline in tourism island wide? From what others have said here, places like New Garden and Mary Rose have been booked solid. So monger tourism is still thriving?Nice article. Reinforces why the cruise ship business is vital for the overall Puerto Plata tourism. A legit tourism can not be sustained via budget mongers.
Ath Trainer
08-08-13, 17:47
The woman on the cash register most of the time is the novia of the owner, an English guy, and she is not easily shocked. I think sales of sildenafil and tadalafil are one of their major lines of business, and they have some excellent condoms at a good price too. Anyway when you walk in there, they have a pretty good idea what you are there for, it is either the pills or the cold beer. You can sit at a table outside and enjoy your beer, so sidewalk cafe experience at colmado price.
The pharmacies also have local girls working there, though in one pharmacy they are often wearing Cialis brand polo shirts, in case you forgot what you came in for.
BTW, there is another pharmacy just half a block from New Garden hotel, next to the Bon ice cream parlor.Assuming she speaks english since her husband is english. Waiting for the rain to stop to take a walk.
Assuming she speaks english since her husband is english. Waiting for the rain to stop to take a walk.Yes, I think she does. Just say Sildenafil or Viagra and she will show you a pack of 4 tablets for 100 pesos, then you can say how many you want. It's very easy.
"pastillas de sildenafil por fabor."
Updates: BBL is on the scene and gave me a report this morning.
Four Roses is closed.
Domino bar is closed.
Winners circle is demolished.
Beach vendors being moved out.Is Winner's Circle the bar on the corner opposite Merengue Bar? I noticed the roof had come down. Domino and Four Roses have been on their last legs for ages. I always notice the funky smell of those places when I pass by. Reminds me of when all the shanty prostitution bars opposite Crystal's in Puerto Plata were demolished, and the bars on the Malecon at Long Beach, almost ten years ago now, I think.
It's not all over until the fat lady sings. Oh, did she?
The Mind Bender
08-08-13, 18:16
With all the grumpiness, race blaming and looking down on locals in the recent posts here I'm glad to see CubaDave remains upbeat and optimistic
Passion's gone? All the girls are now on the strip!
Chicas getting fat? Still more than enough slim girls to go around!
Don't like Dlatins? Try the beach, Rumba's, CMP. Etc.
Getting bored? Trying making friends with the mongers!
There's nothing and nobody stopping you from having a good time but YOU!
Is Winner's Circle the bar on the corner opposite Merengue Bar? I noticed the roof had come down. Domino and Four Roses have been on their last legs for ages. I always notice the funky smell of those places when I pass by. Reminds me of when all the shanty prostitution bars opposite Crystal's in Puerto Plata were demolished, and the bars on the Malecon at Long Beach, almost ten years ago now, I think.
It's not all over until the fat lady sings. Oh, did she?Yeah, that was Winners circle. 4 Roses had some nice talent, that was my spot.
I have no problem with guys popping bottles, listening to load rap and acting an ass on their holiday. No issue with Timbos and Jerseys while out also. My singular issues are when stepping in a professional situation having the skill set and flat out common sense to act accordingly. However, Ghetto is ghetto and they deserve to have fun also. There is no difference between a drunken group of Bits, frat boys, Jersey Shore kids and these cats. Yall on Some other Race class crap.
Say what you want. Most of the girls love these guys as their closer to their ages, listen to roughly the same music and resemble what they see in rap videos. It's common sense. What do you think her first choice is if there are no dollars involved. Its going to be that kid in the Tims and La Laker jersey. Its not going to be an older gentleman poping Viagra every 20 seconds. Then to top it off, they pay better.
What's really coming out is an attempt to discredit the competition. A young kid of any ethnicity with money is always going to win out in DR. If he's a NY or Miami kid that knows that Barrio Slang its a rap; literaly. It's natural selection and 40 year old age differences between couples are not natural.Some guys have an opinion of how some guys represent themselves, and others don't have a problem with it? I don't get it? Where's the problem at? Where's the racism in that? Nobody is supposed to have an opinion? Is somebody claiming guys don't have a right to enjoy themselves?
I think you do have a point in regards to how many of the young women relate to many of the younger mongers, because they are closer in age. That is so true. However, the shelf life of many of the girls selling pussy doesn't last much beyond 30. By then, many of those chicas arent relying on sportfucking young mongers for what matters most. Security. They are looking at men that are more mature. And it don't mean the guy is 40 yrs older. He can be a whopping 10 to 20 yrs older. Shit a 50 plus old dude with a 38yr old woman can be a perfect match. Moreover, the young dudes in question are less likely to be relied on for stability purposes because they are more interested in fucking as many women as they can.
I know you mentioned if no dollars involved, her 1st choice is the dudes closer to her age. I never doubted that. But for what choice and how long? The problem with that concept, is that dollars is almost always involved, especially in Sosua. You think a chica is going to drop a older customer she has established a rapport with over a younger monger? That monger is going to have to wait his turn like anybody else. And especially since many of these girls have had dozens of dicks in them. Why the hell would the guys youth or what they have in common, make that much of a difference in a chicas choice of who to fuck 1st?
Another thing, I believe who pays more is debatable. Here's why. Young dudes are expected to last longer. Possibly fuck for hours, come and then go again. Older dude, may only need 20 or 30 minutes to nut, and he may be done. (varies from man to man ). The time it takes her to make her money with the young dude, and the freebies because he's so young and fine, she could fuck 3 or 4 grateful older dudes willing to pay her a lot more for less time fucking. You would agree wouldn't you? Especially since the older guy has to pop viagra every 20 seconds LOL
You have a point that some cats are about discrediting the competition. But I also believe many of us have legit opinions about how some guys are carrying themselves, and how it impacts on mongering overall. It don't have jack to do with them being young or the color of their skin. It's about how they represent themselves. Not to mention, the guys getting themselves in trouble because they werent thinking about the consequences of their actions or drawing too much attention to themselves.
One last point. I wouldn't give every single young dude carte blanche over older mongers just because of their youth. I have seen some atrocious looking young dudes coming to Sosua looking like they never seen the inside of a gym. And seen some older cats, who look like they take pride in their bodies and having good health. And would put many a youngster to shame when it comes to character, class and confidence. The females that have matured enough to know the value in that, they choose whoever has it, not simply because of ones youth or ability to make it rain. Lets not continue to make this into young against old. This is more about how you carry yourself and the impact of that representation and how others with power to make your life miserable choose to deal with it and / or exploit it.
Ath Trainer
08-08-13, 19:02
Yes, I think she does. Just say Sildenafil or Viagra and she will show you a pack of 4 tablets for 100 pesos, then you can say how many you want. It's very easy.
"pastillas de sildenafil por fabor."Took the 10 minute walk. Latinos market.
Walked to the back counter, behind the check out register. Nobody there. Stoodn4 10 seconds, a middle age woman comes. I show her my prescription viagra bottle. She says no, only this, and pulls out the generic box of 96. I ask how much. She says 975. Take it to the register, the younger girl working it takes the money, gives me change, puts it in a bag, smiles, and says hola.
My initial impression was she was just smiling as she would do to any customer. I'm also thinking I just bought a huge box of boner pills. Now, I'm back at the hotel, and she may have been letting me know she could help me use the pills.
The money I save on buying this back home, makes the expensive airfare worth it.
Thanks frannie for the details making it a smooth transaction.
SavePros321
08-08-13, 19:03
But I also believe many of us have legit opinions about how some guys are carrying themselves, and how it impacts on mongering overall. It don't have jack to do with them being young or the color of their skin. It's about how they represent themselves. Not to mention, the guys getting themselves in trouble because they werent thinking about the consequences of their actions or drawing too much attention to themselves.
Thank you! Not once when discussing this topic was I concerned about the "competition". What competition, LOL? Get the fuck out of here. Everyone in Sosua is paying for the same pussy. It is only a matter of who is paying first!
DR is so dam hot that summer is not the best time. Sounds to me that mongers are keeping the doors open. I hope the powers that be see this. Blows my mine how guys can hate on a gift. 200 young girls all willing to fuck your brains out. Take a walk in a mall see the women you are suppose to date and avoid lusting after the ones you want. Your asses will run to Sosua like a man dying from thirst. You give me 200 plus girls waiting to fuck me. You will not hear any complaining. Checkout what $35 for local pussy will look like in the US make it a 100. I have managed to meet several fresh 18 and 19 year old girls on every trip.
With all the grumpiness, race blaming and looking down on locals in the recent posts here I'm glad to see CubaDave remains upbeat and optimistic
Passion's gone? All the girls are now on the strip!
Chicas getting fat? Still more than enough slim girls to go around!
Don't like Dlatins? Try the beach, Rumba's, CMP. Etc.
Getting bored? Trying making friends with the mongers!
There's nothing and nobody stopping you from having a good time but YOU!
One last point. I wouldn't give every single young dude carte blanche over older mongers just because of their youth. I have seen some atrocious looking young dudes coming to Sosua looking like they never seen the inside of a gym. And seen some older cats, who look like they take pride in their bodies and having good health. And would put many a youngster to shame when it comes to character, class and confidence. The females that have matured enough to know the value in that, they choose whoever has it, not simply because of ones youth or ability to make it rain. Lets not continue to make this into young against old. This is more about how you carry yourself and the impact of that representation and how others with power to make your life miserable choose to deal with it and / or exploit it.There are some atrocious looking people of all ages and ethnicities. In general the chicas want a guy who has good hygiene, good health, and a pleasant manner. Some things are just common sense, like chicas who don't smoke, which is a lot of them, will usually prefer not to be around guys who smoke. Most chicas don't really want to be around heavy drinkers either, but they will do what it takes to get a pay day.
But financial security trumps all. Many chicas have children, and what do they want for their children? Enough wherewithal to provide them with food, healthcare, clothing, toys, education, etc. Just the same as mothers everywhere. So they will tend to make more of a play for men who appear to be what used to be called "a good provider". But that doesn't mean they won't go with other guys too, because they may not have that much of a choice, and money is money.
I am not terribly convinced that physical attraction or a shared taste in music is all that important to most of them. The idea of shared interests is one that seems to be important in the US dating culture, but less so in the DR. And the sex is a two-edged question, depending on whether they really want someone who won't bother them too much, or someone who will never leave them alone. If sex is work, then you might want an easy assignment.
So why DID Jackie Kennedy marry Aristotle Onassis?
And in the personals column, there was this letter I read:
"If you like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain.
If you're not into yoga, if you have half-a-brain.
If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape.
I'm the lady you've looked for, write to me, and escape."
But yes, they will prefer a young good-looking millionaire to an old one, but that situation doesn't arise very much.
Alex Deuce
08-08-13, 20:11
Thank you! Not once when discussing this topic was I concerned about the "competition". What competition, LOL? Get the fuck out of here. Everyone in Sosua is paying for the same pussy. It is only a matter of who is paying first!That's a lie. There are drastic differences in what some pay and quality else some wouldn't be asking for 2,500 & 3,500 and get it nightly. Its beyond common sense to think the 1,000DOP to a <5 foot dragger is applicable to all Chicas. Its flatly obscured and intelectually dishonest. Your constantly in a competition for resources. Pussy generall being the most sought after.
I have seen what some call 6-7. Its Dominican ghetto trash SW's equivalent to 4-5 in home states.
Alex Deuce
08-08-13, 21:16
there are some atrocious looking people of all ages and ethnicities. in general the chicas want a guy who has good hygiene, good health, and a pleasant manner. some things are just common sense, like chicas who don't smoke, which is a lot of them, will usually prefer not to be around guys who smoke. most chicas don't really want to be around heavy drinkers either, but they will do what it takes to get a pay day.
but financial security trumps all. many chicas have children, and what do they want for their children? enough wherewithal to provide them with food, healthcare, clothing, toys, education, etc. just the same as mothers everywhere. so they will tend to make more of a play for men who appear to be what used to be called "a good provider". but that doesn't mean they won't go with other guys too, because they may not have that much of a choice, and money is money...bwaaaaaaaaaa! a young attractive woman cares absolutely nothing about long term financial stability else they wouldn't be tricking especially in sosewer. that kind of long term thinking is anachronous to a person of that age universally. its not until much later, as you pontificate so loudly, does that thinking set in. its how many and how much can i get out of these john's in the short time this pussy tight. to think otherwise is the height of delusionality. they build working guidelines and arrangements few relationships. you don't think these women peep our game?
trick national moto:
financial security is: "who got thar dollar when i need it and if i can get some good dick from a dude i am attracted to, even better."
no games sees no game.
SavePros321
08-08-13, 22:04
But I also believe many of us have legit opinions about how some guys are carrying themselves, and how it impacts on mongering overall. It don't have jack to do with them being young or the color of their skin. It's about how they represent themselves. Not to mention, the guys getting themselves in trouble because they werent thinking about the consequences of their actions or drawing too much attention to themselves.
Wrx2005 couldn't have written truer words. When us Vets talk about dudes coming to Sosua like they are fresh off the set of a rap video, everybody comes down on us as if we are hating on them.
This is from the Medellin, Colombia forum in response to a guy who just got robbed of his iPhone 5, $800 in cash, and his Gucci watch:
They seen you coming for miles! You had a target on your chest and back! Target: stinking like booze, broken Spanish, horny as fuck, pockets bulging with stacks of loot, and IMO the most stupid thing you did was rocking a Guccy watch! Why!
Fancy watches, gold chains, rings, jewelry, fancy shit. Leave that at home ya'll! Everybody leave all the usual "Look at me! Look at how Baller I am! Look at my VIP table in the Club!" at home! As a foreigner in any country you already stand out to begin with so there is no need to separate yourself further! This is equal to the Fattest, Slowest, Water Buffalo at the watering hole putting on lion attract perfume. You already a target do not make yourself out to be the best possible target! Hahahah! Cash, credit cards, passport and a Gucci watch that costs 5-8 months wages for a Colombian? Wow. Christmas come early! See what I"m saying? A gold chain and watch is a sure pay day! A girl might hope you have a few bucks but when the know they can take you for a few bucks and a clear as day bonus you going to get got!
And in the personals column, there was this letter I read:
"If you like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain.
If you're not into yoga, if you have half-a-brain.
If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape.
I'm the lady you've looked for, write to me, and escape."
This sounds like words from a song about a man looking to cheat on his wife. LOL.
Radpoker
Mr Enternational
08-09-13, 01:37
I just returned from a 5 day vacation to Sosua and wasn't impressed at all.
Most of the girls have kids.From this statement it seems this monger may be used to mongering in Asia. There, many girls start in the business at a very young age to feed their parents and siblings physically and continue in the business to feed the greed of the same family as far as material possessions. These girls usually don't have children, having started in the business before the legal age. Whereas in Latin America I think the case is that most women get into the business to feed the children that they have birthed.
In the Asia threads you will see many times guys mention in their reports that the girl they had did not have a child as that is supposed to be a plus among most from that crowd. In this crowd, I think most work under the assumpton that the girl already has kids.
Read: My Name Lon, You Like Me by Derrick Sharron.
Each time I return to the DR I meet local people who make my trip better.
Place's in the DR may seem to be low class but if you were to go to the place's in the USA where they made about the same money as they do in the DR the neighborhood in the USA would be worse than anything you ever see in the DR.
Most people there make between 100 and 200 dollars a month. Can you imagine what the American's house's would be like if that is all they made. Not to mention what Americans physical body would look like. USA has projects (BRICK YARDS) Where people get 800 to a 1000 dollars a month. And if you have been to any of these you would probally rather be in the slum's of the DR.
I have went to local's house's each time I have been in the DR and for the most part they are always clean as a pin dirt floors and all.
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