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TravelGuy99
10-01-13, 20:46
You can buy a phone for as little as 750 pesos including a SIM card. The number is yours for the next phone or the next time you visit. Simple. You can call the USA from your prepaid calling card. No problem.Thanks, what's a reliable phone you suggest I buy in Sosua?
Also does anyone know if the afterhours club one is still open?
Mr Enternational
10-01-13, 21:23
I spent last week in Sosua. I really have nothing to add that hasn't been said about the wimmin. All I'll say that it's not my type of scene.What didn't you like about the Sosua scene?
What didn't you like about the Sosua scene?At this stage of my life, I don't enjoy being with hard core putas. I'm also more of a social drinker which doesn't seem to fit in with the scene. I had a very nice stay in sosua, but in my own way. I suppose the reason I went to sosua was to see with my own eyes what people were talking about. None of this is meant to be judgmental and I hope it doesn't come across that way. Cheers.
Mr Enternational
10-01-13, 23:50
At this stage of my life, I don't enjoy being with hard core putas. I'm also more of a social drinker which doesn't seem to fit in with the scene. I had a very nice stay in sosua, but in my own way. I suppose the reason I went to sosua was to see with my own eyes what people were talking about. None of this is meant to be judgmental and I hope it doesn't come across that way. Cheers.Yeah man I feel you. It is always good to get your own perspective of what all the hubbub is about. One man's trash is another man's treasure. I can put up with from a few hours to 1 day of Sosua. In the words of Old Kool, these days Sosua is for sport fucking gutter puss.
At this stage of my life, I don't enjoy being with hard core putas. I'm also more of a social drinker which doesn't seem to fit in with the scene. I had a very nice stay in sosua, but in my own way. I suppose the reason I went to sosua was to see with my own eyes what people were talking about. None of this is meant to be judgmental and I hope it doesn't come across that way. Cheers.It doesn't come across that way. I fully understand. Sosua isn't for everybody which is why I do it my way. In fact, most guys would be bored out of their minds if it weren't for the chicas. As for me, my idea of a vacation is to get the hell away from the day to day routine. I can be by myself for ages on end. So I do my own thing. I check out the cigar shop, pick up a couple of stogies and head to the beach and light them up. Can't do that in California as most beaches outlaw it and people look down on cigar smokers. If I want to be social I head up to Big Mama's and chill and shoot the shit with ex-pats. I go on excursions or tours. I'm in a foreign country so I explore it. I don't follow the "scene." I do what makes me happy for the time that I'm there even if it means doing absolutely nothing but lounging on the beach. Then there's the girls.
An expat friend of mine in Sosua told me a guy recently complained that $300 was missing from his safe. The Hotel is Condos Margarita across from Bologna restaurant on Alejo Martinez. This is disturbing. News because last August 2 guys I talked to thought they were missing money too. But they werent sure of the amount. But to them it appeared somebody else had been in one of the guys safe. I like the place but am leery about staying there. BTW their safes are keyed. And I dont think they are bolted or secured from moving. The unit I had I was able to pick the safe up if I wanted to.I'm here on the ground in Sosua. I talked to a dominican aquaintance of mine who is staying at Condos Margarita. He has been there since June. I asked him if he knew about the alleged theft? He said yeah. But it turned out to be a misunderstanding on the renters part. That guy accounted for the money he originally thought was taken from his safe. So all is well at Condos Margarita. The other incident with the 2 guys I talked to back in August, those two admitted they werent sure if they were got or not. Most likely, the one guy never knew how much he had to begin with and just assumed someone had taken money out of his safe. I can relate to that. I have taken money out (not necessarily from a safe) , but did not account for what was left. Then when I decided to count what was left, it appeared to be less than what I expect.
One last thing. Not all of the safes are keyed. The unit I'm in now is electronic. My personal observation and feeling is, the staff at Condos Margarita are very honest and very respectful of every renters personal effects. Just thought I'd offer this bit of news in case anyone read my earlier report and decided not to stay there.
Gents,
I was wondering if there are a similar casa listing pdf or google maps address like.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&dg=feature
Been to Medellin and had a great time and I wanted to try something new. They have great lists and maps for Medellin and was wondering if there is one for Sosua. Thanks in advance.
PS tried searching and can't seem to find one.
How common is anal for the girls?
Gents,
I was wondering if there are a similar casa listing pdf or google maps address like.
PS tried searching and can't seem to find one.There isn't one because it isn't necessary. Sosua isn't casa oriented; it is freelance oriented and is concentrated in a 3 block radius. There are no hidden casas. Everthing is out in the open and extremely obvious. The girls are very aggressive so you won't have a problem finding the "action." Most of the action is concentrated in two bars, which are on the same street: Rumba and D'Latin. 90% of the action is on that one street where these two bars are located. You can stay at one of several hotels that are walking distance to this block. You can read old reports for more info. Also, I wouldn't try to compare one country to another. If you read the reports with an open mind, everything is there with nauseating redundancy.
ReadyToGetOnIt
10-04-13, 02:49
How common is anal for the girls?The usual disclaimer that YMMV, but it all depends on the chica. I haven't found many that volunteer for it, but when you hit the right number ($) , most anything can be had. I've also had experiences where a chica is desperate to close the deal, and throws that in to sweeten the pot.
How common is anal for the girls?Go to Rio if you're intent on it.
My experience in Latin America:
16 trips to Rio. 3-holer at last once every trip (and I don't even push for it that much)
10 trips to Colombia. Never analized a Paisa or Calena.
7 trips to DR. Only twice nailed chicas backdoor
How common is anal for the girls?Every girl does anal, some just don't know it yet.
My girlfriend did it regularly until she got an vaginal infection that she blamed on anal followed by vaginal sex. So anal was off the table for a while, until I started losing interest and it is now back on a regular basis. In fact yesterday consisted of oral and vaginal to completion, then later oral and vaginal to completion followed immediately by oral and anal to completion.
I've had casa girls do it, and more, for a 500 peso tip. I wrote about GBP where I got the girl to give me anal and swallow for 500 pesos. Best $12. 50 I ever spent.
SavePros321
10-04-13, 23:55
My girlfriend did it regularly until she got an vaginal infection that she blamed on anal followed by vaginal sex. So anal was off the table for a while, until I started losing interest and it is now back on a regular basis. In fact yesterday consisted of oral and vaginal to completion, then later oral and vaginal to completion followed immediately by oral and anal to completion.No anal and armpit to completion?
No anal and armpit to completion?Armpits, hands, feet don't do it for me.
Mouth, Pussy or Ass.
Or as I put it with my girl los 3 a's Arriba, Adelante why Atras.
Alex Deuce
10-05-13, 03:51
Sosua News today 10/1/2013.
Four hundred million pesos for renovation Sosúa beach?
The Minister of Tourism, Francisco Javier Garcia announced that for the restructuring of the bay of the resort town Sosúa the government has made four hundred million pesos available. According to Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosúa good agreements have been made with all current owners of the casetas (souvenir shops). When the renovation of the historic center of Puerto Plata is completed, they will start with the renovation of the beach of Sosúa. There will be constructed two shopping center where the current owners of the casetas can rent a shop at both entrances to the beach. With these changes, Sosúa should be more attractive to tourists who demand better service and more luxury.
With the cruise port in Maimóand and the renovation of the historic center of Puerto Plata, the north coast will be culturally more attractive, says the Minister of Tourism.But! But! That can't be.
Ath Trainer
10-05-13, 13:26
How common is anal for the girls?I had a girl my last trip do anal, no tip requested. Wasnt even discussed during negotiations. I didn't even have to ask for it.
Mr Enternational
10-05-13, 15:42
While we are on the subject, I guess I will continue a trip report from two years ago. About 9pm I left Puerto Plata coming from the chick's house who works at Sosua Bay Hotel. I passed Playero Supermarket in Sosua getting ready to turn left on to Dr. Rosen. There was a motoconcho in front of me with a girl on the back. The girl turned around and stared at me and I vigorously nodded my head with a shit-eating grin. Without haste, she had the driver let her off the bike. She came over and got into the car.
I negotiated 500 pesos for some head in the car. I parallel parked behind an SUV on the left side of the street. I took my dick out and she went to work. People were walking by looking. Nothing to see here folks. Just a regular day at the office. I must admit that it was quite good head. So good in fact, that after 15 minutes I said fuck it. I told her that we could just go back to my hotel to fuck and I will give her 1000 total. She agreed. So off we went to Sosua Bay. Fucking ensued. It was not long that she took my dick out of her pussy and unabashedly stuck it into her ass. Damn, Cagep1967's famous 3 As all for one low price. Her name was Elizabeth.
P.S. I never pay for "additional services". When I negotiate one price, that includes all access. Street girls in TJ try to do that a la carte shit, but I don't stand for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0
Alex Deuce
10-05-13, 17:25
While we are on the subject, I guess I will continue a trip report from two years ago. About 9pm I left Puerto Plata coming from the chick's house who works at Sosua Bay Hotel. I passed Playero Supermarket in Sosua getting ready to turn left on to Dr. Rosen. There was a motoconcho in front of me with a girl on the back. The girl turned around and stared at me and I vigorously nodded my head with a shit-eating grin. Without haste, she had the driver let her off the bike. She came over and got into the car.
I negotiated 500 pesos for some head in the car. I parallel parked behind an SUV on the left side of the street. I took my dick out and she went to work. People were walking by looking. Nothing to see here folks. Just a regular day at the office. I must admit that it was quite good head. So good in fact, that after 15 minutes I said fuck it. I told her that we could just go back to my hotel to fuck and I will give her 1000 total. She agreed. So off we went to Sosua Bay. Fucking ensued. It was not long that she took my dick out of her pussy and unabashedly stuck it into her ass. Damn, Cagep1967's famous 3 As all for one low price. Her name was Elizabeth.
P. S. I never pay for "additional services". When I negotiate one price, that includes all access. Street girls in Tijuana try to do that a la carte shit, but I don't stand for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0Look like you picked her up by the Citgo on FIB son!
Marc Anthony
10-06-13, 06:24
But! But! That can't be.I wonder who has title to that prime spot between the playa and the road that has been vacant all these years that will be cleared of beachfront squatter businesses at a cost of $10M to the Dominican gvt? Cui bono?
I wonder who has title to that prime spot between the playa and the road that has been vacant all these years that will be cleared of beachfront squatter businesses at a cost of $10M to the Dominican gvt? Cui bono?The Pastoriza family owns the land.
ReadyToGetOnIt
10-06-13, 20:09
Look like you picked her up by the Citgo on FIB son!Damn, kid! Sounds like you know the A pretty well! If you had said something about the bluff or Stewart ave, it would have been all over! LOL! OK. Back to the DR.
I did Elizebeth few years ago. She is a total delight. When she is through with you your leche is on E. She is a 3 hole champion. I think she worked at BB at one time. She has a lovely manner and will fuck you into submission.
While we are on the subject, I guess I will continue a trip report from two years ago. About 9pm I left Puerto Plata coming from the chick's house who works at Sosua Bay Hotel. I passed Playero Supermarket in Sosua getting ready to turn left on to Dr. Rosen. There was a motoconcho in front of me with a girl on the back. The girl turned around and stared at me and I vigorously nodded my head with a shit-eating grin. Without haste, she had the driver let her off the bike. She came over and got into the car.
I negotiated 500 pesos for some head in the car. I parallel parked behind an SUV on the left side of the street. I took my dick out and she went to work. People were walking by looking. Nothing to see here folks. Just a regular day at the office. I must admit that it was quite good head. So good in fact, that after 15 minutes I said fuck it. I told her that we could just go back to my hotel to fuck and I will give her 1000 total. She agreed. So off we went to Sosua Bay. Fucking ensued. It was not long that she took my dick out of her pussy and unabashedly stuck it into her ass. Damn, Cagep1967's famous 3 As all for one low price. Her name was Elizabeth.
P. S. I never pay for "additional services". When I negotiate one price, that includes all access. Street girls in Tijuana try to do that a la carte shit, but I don't stand for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0
TravelGuy99
10-07-13, 16:39
Last night's tropical thunderstorm was intense, the streets flooded / gunshot style lightning tore through the area. G I was enjoying the seafood at the scotch restaurant TL, power went out twice. Fun to watch the chicas run through the streets singing and dancing in stilettos and knee high water, some guys were cutting. Deals for ones seeking shelter.
Upstairs Classicos, now rebranded club 59, was closed Saturday night. Dlatins was packed ass to crotch, the new window framing is up, going to be a furnace when. The windows go in.
Tight chicas still asking 3000 p for st, I was offering 1500 p plus propina, get the eye roll, no thanks sweetz.
Finally settled on a 26 year old, tight body, black mini dress, light tan, blonde hair, saggy stomach, good GFE, no bs. And she can always keep the dress around her waist.
I did make it to Zona one afterparty, was a waste of time, except ran into Jenny, a fav from my past trip. More on her later.
TravelGuy99
10-07-13, 16:49
Advice on tip.
How much is acceptable for: service for free breakfast, maid service?
I've been leaving a couple of US dollars, is this standard?
Note: I've been quoted exchange rate 1 US for 42 pesos.
[QUOTE=OldKool; 1474247]I have had the same experience in Sosua. There are so many women you can find almost anything you want. If you want to sport fuck no problem. If you want to wife up you will have no problem. The key is your attitude. Not every thing is perfect but the benefits are amazing.
You are so right if you have a good attitude 9 out of 10 experience's will be good and 7 will be great in Sosua. I ask a girl last night how much she would charge me for her to stay with me for a year and she quickly replyed nothing. These women are all hungry so if they are nice feed them and most of them like having sex to so be a good sex maker and these girls will do anything for you. And do drive slow on these little roads in Sosua for 1 every body is looking for a pay out and 2 you got to be going slow to make a good selection of the chica's. I have seen many police here in town for the last week and on the main road they have been drug cops but none have fucked with me.
The Mind Bender
10-08-13, 04:19
Tight chicas still asking 3000 p for st, I was offering 1500 p plus propina, get the eye roll, no thanks sweetz.Those girl were "Hunters" weren't they? Guaranteed you'd be overpaying for a lazy lay
Advice on tip.
How much is acceptable for: service for free breakfast, maid service?
I've been leaving a couple of US dollars, is this standard?
Note: I've been quoted exchange rate 1 US for 42 pesos.For the housekeeper, I leave a 100 note on the pillow.
For the restaurant, it depends on the service.
How much is acceptable for: service for free breakfast, maid service?I don't think the people you mentioned are not going to accept any amount of money you want to give away.
I've been leaving a couple of US dollars, is this standard?There is no "standard." There isn't a generalizable expectation that I've come across about what one should leave or not leave.
Damn that's some hard work there my man. I would need a good 48 hours to prepare for her.Yeah, I don't see anyone posting pics of anything like that that they have actually been with in Sosua.
If any of you guy's run across this one she has a tattoo of her name where the tramp stamp goes on her lower back Ashley and she has a big ass star on her front lower stomach. She is 1 of the best looking girls out there but she is Trouble and I mean devil worship and gang kind of shit. Leave this little working girl to the street. I was lucky and kicked her out before much could happen but if not who knows what. To tell you how bad she is I did not even cum before I tossed her out. She keeps a razor taped some how on her tit hell I thought it was birth control till she was getting her shit to get out. This is the 1 out of 10 that is no good.
Thanks for the clip, O. Yes, that is the size on top I desire.
D Cups (. V.)"Spanning the globe for the world's largest bangable boobs"
I know what you like, bro. I would probably have to break my 1, 000 peso rule on her. She got some skills.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x104xjm_dominican-poison-mizz-izzy-luscious_redband?search_algo=2
TravelGuy99
10-08-13, 15:46
Those girl were "Hunters" weren't they? Guaranteed you'd be overpaying for a lazy layYou get a mix, the hunters and then the 'venus flytraps' who stand around, no smile awaiting prey.
I like to hangout with. The girl at the bar for a good 20 mins before heading back to the room, 'the faster she asks to go back, the lousier the lay' is a good metric. If she doesn't ask after 20 mins, good chance of GFE.
TravelGuy99
10-08-13, 15:50
Anyone recommend a good place to rent a scooter, and how much I should pay? I had one offer for 20 US a day.
I don't mind paying more for a reputable company, want to avoid scams like the jetski fiasco in Thailand.
Anyone recommend a good place to rent a scooter, and how much I should pay? I had one offer for 20 US a day.
I don't mind paying more for a reputable company, want to avoid scams like the jetski fiasco in Thailand.Take a look at my post from earlier this year. I rented from an Italian run outfit down the street from Rocky's and all was well.
Parkinsons
10-09-13, 03:55
Thanks for the clip, O. Yes, that is the size on top I desire.
D Cups (. V.)"Spanning the globe for the world's largest bangable boobs"From the latest BB e-newsletter
Anyone recommend a good place to rent a scooter, and how much I should pay? I had one offer for 20 US a day.
I don't mind paying more for a reputable company, want to avoid scams like the jetski fiasco in Thailand.You can rent it at Hotel Voramar.
Agreed. I know who she is, and although I did not notice anything dangerous as a razor on her. She's trouble. She is definitely one of the best looking ones, but looks can be deceiving and one can sense issues and then some soon after being with her. Did not last very long with me and I had to kick her out, but only after she asked for 4,000 and how she has "rent to pay tomorrow."
As if I haven't heard that one before. It was a hassle to get her out, but man am I glad it happened. One of the few negative experiences I've had in Sosua. Many others that have been good however. But this one. As Grub1 said. She's trouble.
If any of you guy's run across this one she has a tattoo of her name where the tramp stamp goes on her lower back Ashley and she has a big ass star on her front lower stomach. She is 1 of the best looking girls out there but she is Trouble and I mean devil worship and gang kind of shit. Leave this little working girl to the street. I was lucky and kicked her out before much could happen but if not who knows what. To tell you how bad she is I did not even cum before I tossed her out. She keeps a razor taped some how on her tit hell I thought it was birth control till she was getting her shit to get out. This is the 1 out of 10 that is no good.
The Mind Bender
10-09-13, 06:32
You get a mix, the hunters and then the 'venus flytraps' who stand around, no smile awaiting prey.
I like to hangout with. The girl at the bar for a good 20 mins before heading back to the room, 'the faster she asks to go back, the lousier the lay' is a good metric. If she doesn't ask after 20 mins, good chance of GFE.Yeah that's actually a pretty sound strategy especially if you like GFE like me.
Find a girl who's smiling or at least not pacing anxiously in search of prey
Trace girl Susan is still around Sosua I seen and picked her up around Mary rose she is ok but you can tell she is getting rougher by the day and she is hanging out with some real problem people so if you pick her up don't let her try to introduce you to any of her friends.
Thanks, Park! I assume BBs has their fair share of buxom babes like this or is she an anomaly? My Spanish is weak so no doubt I will be staying there.
From the latest BB e-newsletter
From the latest BB e-newsletterI spent the night with a girl named Clarivelle when I was there last month. I'm not sure but I think it was this girl. Nice big naturals and a tight bod. Pretty good in the sack, except when I touched her a-hole. She quickly pushed my hand away. I still have her # if anyone is interested.
Agreed. I know who she is, and although I did not notice anything dangerous as a razor on her. She's trouble. She is definitely one of the best looking ones, but looks can be deceiving and one can sense issues and then some soon after being with her. Did not last very long with me and I had to kick her out, but only after she asked for 4, 000 and how she has "rent to pay tomorrow."
As if I haven't heard that one before. It was a hassle to get her out, but man am I glad it happened. One of the few negative experiences I've had in Sosua. Many others that have been good however. But this one. As Grub1 said. She's trouble.Is there a picture of this Ashley?
ThunderStar
10-09-13, 22:35
Thanks, Park! I assume BBs has their fair share of buxom babes like this or is she an anomaly? My Spanish is weak so no doubt I will be staying there.We were there in the middle of September. And there was a great selection of ladys. Many of them very buxom!
Staying in Sosua. We like to visit BB every now and then and it was no disappointment!
ManOfMystery
10-09-13, 23:29
Passed by D'latin a couple of hours ago. The windows were put in the front and were being polished as I walked by. I can't imagine how hot it will be inside tonight.
OldKool recently mentioned the issue of having a threesome with sisters. Threesomes can be very problematical and most times just aren't worth the bother, because the girls just see it as a way to boost income rather than a way of enjoying additional forbidden sexual thrills.
However the best threesome I ever had was quite recently and worked very well indeed even though one the participants didn't even take off her clothes. No alcohol was involved.
The two women are cousins, both 25 years old, and initially they took a lot of persuasion to get together due to fears of being talked about in the family and other anxieties. I have a very good sexual relationship with one and have not had sex with the other. Neither are pros. One had limited sexual experience. Eventually an agreement involving money (what else) made them see the bright side. As I said, they are not pros, but the promise of a new dress is still an effective lubricant in overcoming inhibitions.
When we got around to it, I had sex with the one girl while the other took photographs. This was a lot of fun as she is a fairly good photographer for a chica, and we enjoyed working out the best angles to get the best photos.
Eventually I ended up fucking my friend who was by this time extremely turned on and more than ready to go. It ended up being one of the truly great fucks, a very hot and passionate time, but also a lot of fun. When it was all over, the photographer was laughing and joking about the noise her cousin was making, imitating her cries of passion, and we all eventually went to sleep.
This doesn't sound like much, but it avoided all the inevitable problems with jealousy that arise in threesomes, as each person had a defined role, and ended up very well. One still had the advantage of being aroused in the presence of two people and of seeing their responses, which is one of the biggest turn ons in threesomes. The problem of changing condoms, washing between partners, etc. were negated. This is even more the case if the person you have the sex with is a regular partner who is on the pill.
I don't remember when I last slept so well.
Afterwards both expressed agreement that it had been good and were soon asking if there was going to be a repeat date. Maybe, but it will be difficult to make it work as well, and I think that if I fuck the second girl next time, the old issue of jealousies will probably come up and it may not be as satisfying.
I don't have a picture, but she is at Rumba during the afternoon hours or walking along the strip. I've also spotted her at Rumba at night, she is usually with one other friend. Yes I know that might not help much. But.
She has blonde hair, braces, a pretty face. Hair is curly, but I have seen it straight before. No eyebrows. Nice ass. Tattoo of her name right above it and she has a star tattoo on her stomach as the other poster said. She was actually nice to talk to at first, when I was with her. But her attitude changes completely once you're in the bedroom, and it's very noticeable. And she does this because I think she wants you to not be happy and kick her out and she gets her money. Except she wants more, and she tells you that you fucked too much. Yeah. 5 minutes and not finishing is too much? Right. And then her rent is due the next day. And she has a kid. And she has nothing. Hey, I've gone through that with a couple other girls before. But her attitude in particular is just nasty and I can see why one might be worried if they are with her. I've been with girls that will give you the guilt trip about money, and then you have Ashley who will pretty much demand it.
And the last thing I remember, she has a laugh which is psychotic. How fitting. I ran into her the next day while walking down the strip and wish I had not, she would not leave me alone after I told her I'm wanting to just walk alone and not interested. Sat down at Rumba and she showed up 30 minutes later and sat next to me and said let's go. I told her nope. Walked over to another table and sat down, she follows me. Then asks for money. I just stopped acknowledging her and after some time she finally left.
That's the best I can describe her, I've taken pics of girls but she was just so bad to the point where it was I just wanted her to get lost. There is something about her which concerns me for other mongerers in Sosua. I did not notice any razor on her or anything, but I do recall she wanted the lights off and when I wanted to switch even one lamp on, she objected. Fellow mongerers beware, I thought maybe I was the only one that had a bad experience with her, but seeing someone else post something very similar surely this girl is trouble.
Is there a picture of this Ashley?
Agreed. I know who she is, and although I did not notice anything dangerous as a razor on her. She's trouble. She is definitely one of the best looking ones, but looks can be deceiving and one can sense issues and then some soon after being with her. Did not last very long with me and I had to kick her out, but only after she asked for 4, 000 and how she has "rent to pay tomorrow."
As if I haven't heard that one before. It was a hassle to get her out, but man am I glad it happened. One of the few negative experiences I've had in Sosua. Many others that have been good however. But this one. As Grub1 said. She's trouble.You would have got same results for a 1000. All chica's have went with me for short time 2hrs for 1000 I have paid 1500 1 time in 4 weeks and she stayed all night and did not ask for more than the 1000 we agreed on but hell we woke up and she opened her leg's she was well worth the extra 500
You would have got same results for a 1000. All chica's have went with me for short time 2hrs for 1000 I have paid 1500 1 time in 4 weeks and she stayed all night and did not ask for more than the 1000 we agreed on but hell we woke up and she opened her leg's she was well worth the extra 500I have had plenty of chicas for 1500 for the night, a couple insisting on 2000 and during the day 1000 is easy to find.
But Ashley. 4,000. When we agreed on 1500. I didn't get what I want, but I gave 2,000 with the 500 extra just so she could go of my room. Satan's mistress.
I hooked up with 1 chica that was out to please me and told me over and over I will do whatever you want. She was not bull shitting either hell she took it up the ass then stuck her tounge up my ass. I did not plan on that happening hell I could not keep from laughing every time that wet thing went up my ass hole.
I am glad she only wanted to stick her tounge up there.
All this fucking will make anyone feel younger than they are.
The things you can do in Sosua are just incredible. I will never complain about Sosua. It is always hard to believe the average day in Sosua.
I hooked up with 1 chica that was out to please me and told me over and over I will do whatever you want. She was not bull shitting either hell she took it up t.
He ass then stuck her tounge up my ass. I did not plan on that happening hell I could not keep from laughing every time that wet thing went up my ass hole.
I am glad she only wanted to stick her tounge up there.
All this fucking will make anyone feel younger than they are.
Marc Anthony
10-10-13, 06:25
OldKool recently mentioned the issue of having a threesome with sisters. Threesomes can be very problematical and most times just aren't worth the bother, because the girls just see it as a way to boost income rather than a way of enjoying additional forbidden sexual thrills.
However the best threesome I ever had was quite recently and worked very well indeed even though one the participants didn't even take off her clothes. No alcohol was involved.
The two women are cousins, both 25 years old, and initially they took a lot of persuasion to get together due to fears of being talked about in the family and other anxieties. I have a very good sexual relationship with one and have not had sex with the other. Neither are pros. One had limited sexual experience. Eventually an agreement involving money (what else) made them see the bright side. As I said, they are not pros, but the promise of a new dress is still an effective lubricant in overcoming inhibitions.
When we got around to it, I had sex with the one girl while the other took photographs. This was a lot of fun as she is a fairly good photographer for a chica, and we enjoyed working out the best angles to get the best photos.
Eventually I ended up fucking my friend who was by this time extremely turned on and more than ready to go. It ended up being one of the truly great fucks, a very hot and passionate time, but also a lot of fun. When it was all over, the photographer was laughing and joking about the noise her cousin was making, imitating her cries of passion, and we all eventually went to sleep.
This doesn't sound like much, but it avoided all the inevitable problems with jealousy that arise in threesomes, as each person had a defined role, and ended up very well. One still had the advantage of being aroused in the presence of two people and of seeing their responses, which is one of the biggest turn ons in threesomes. The problem of changing condoms, washing between partners, etc. Were negated. This is even more the case if the person you have the sex with is a regular partner who is on the pill.
I don't remember when I last slept so well.
Afterwards both expressed agreement that it had been good and were soon asking if there was going to be a repeat date. Maybe, but it will be difficult to make it work as well, and I think that if I fuck the second girl next time, the old issue of jealousies will probably come up and it may not be as satisfying.Interesting experience. For non pro chicas it may have been the first time they ever saw another female having sex and been fascinating and very memorable for her. You gave it structure the camera chica could understand and work with and gave her cover to do something a little freaky but not uncomfortable.
I think guys who want to watch girls have gay sex have to go with bi girls who choose their own partner. For chicas who are amigas or relatives a threesome is going to be focused on you, and you are going to have to keep them occupied and entertained. Having one shoot pics or video is a good start.
Anyone recommend a good place to rent a scooter, and how much I should pay? I had one offer for 20 US a day.
I don't mind paying more for a reputable company, want to avoid scams like the jetski fiasco in Thailand.El Cheapy Car rental. Next door to Tradewinds property. The owners name is Mike. A 60 something white guy. His dominican assistant is Junior. Good cat. Mike has apartments for rent, cars and scooters. When I asked about a scooter last May, they went for as low as $10 a day. Much cheaper than all the rest. I am renting a Isuzu Rodeo now for $30 a day. My Rodeo isn't perfect but it sure is cheaper than the usual $40 to 45 a day most places are asking.
If Mikes scooter prices went up, its probably lets say $15 a day. Can't say what their mechanical condition is, but they all look new and in good shape. With any rental, look for existing issues and flaws. Bad brakes, steering, starting, bad tires etc. Many places never fix shit. However, I feel pretty confident that you wont have to worry about being scammed ( like the scooter being stolen ) or some other BS shenanigans. You can ask Mike about insurance coverage if you come to inquire at his place.
To find Mikes place, just head down route 5 like you are going to Cabarete, then make right up street that leads to Tradewinds. At the top of the hill is a little Restaurant on the left (right across from Tradewinds ). That is where Mike and Junior are. Mike serves meals at the lunch hour with his dominican girl and helpers. Oh one last point. Make sure you get a helmet from any rental, and be sure to wear it. And keep your rental agreement with you. The Amet cops (or whatever authority) might fine you and / or take the scooter from you.
Interesting experience. For non pro chicas it may have been the first time they ever saw another female having sex and been fascinating and very memorable for her. You gave it structure the camera chica could understand and work with and gave her cover to do something a little freaky but not uncomfortable.
I think guys who want to watch girls have gay sex have to go with bi girls who choose their own partner. For chicas who are amigas or relatives a threesome is going to be focused on you, and you are going to have to keep them occupied and entertained. Having one shoot pics or video is a good start.Yeah, I think pics are better because if you get half a dozen good ones out of 50, you have something to keep, at least for a while. With video it is guaranteed to be 95% garbage and who can be bothered to edit it? On the other hand you do have the sound track recorded too (but then how many times are you going to play it over at the family reunion? I doubt if you can even sell it for someone to masturbate to).
I agree about gay sex and girls choosing their own partner, otherwise it won't work, or just won't fly. Not every girl likes the idea of lesbian sex anyway. As a girlfriend I had in the US said a couple of years ago,"I don't mind a girl licking my pussy, but you think I want to go down there and lick her where she has been pissing and menstruating? No thanks!" A girl who may be quite happy to do it with one chosen partner may find the idea revolting with another girl.
When dealing with these chica's from anywhere in the DR make sure to have what the pay is going to be for her known before you ever let her in your auto or they could be a problem but that being said after making a deal with them they are good about keeping it. Sure they may ask for a tip but that is just what they call it's not like you have to pay but whatever you agree to make sure to keep your end of the deal good or you will for sure have a big problem.
Guy's get out there and meet the local people they are actually good sure night brings out a different crowd but if you are old enough to have bought yourself a ticket to the DR you already know what drinking drugs and women is like at night so if you don't like that kind of shit just meet yourself a daytime girl and have fun.
TravelGuy99
10-10-13, 22:15
Good tip on the scooter, went with the Italian guy, honest, reliable and negotiable on multi day deals.
Last night took the the scooter to CMP, dozen chicas or so, fairly aggressive, fun place to have a beer but didn't. See any chicas any better than Rumba / Dlatins, maybe one or two 8's. Did meet a few guys who ended up paying 5000 for all night tln, after chatting with them understood why they would pay so much, rich guys who rented a villa and found Dlatins intimidating / ignorant to the whole scene. A salud, let the fools have their fun, not for me.
Rolled to Dlatins at around 11, windows are up, hot in there, Rumbas is next. How long before they cover the windows? Scenery is changing on PC.
Got asked if I wanted a MJ joint maybe 5 times, never ever even hint that you're even slightly interested, these guys from 'new york' will not leave you alone, learned that on a previous trip.
Was about to leave Dlatins, spotted this beach blonde with 'blanca' like skin, introduce myself, her name is Nicole, got her number, I'm sure she's. Pricy, and very in demand, she was approached at least 5 times in half hour.
I don't have a picture, but she is at Rumba during the afternoon hours or walking along the strip. I've also spotted her at Rumba at night, she is usually with one other friend. Yes I know that might not help much. But.
She has blonde hair, braces, a pretty face. Hair is curly, but I have seen it straight before. No eyebrows. Nice ass. Tattoo of her name right above it and she has a star tattoo on her stomach as the other poster said. She was actually nice to talk to at first, when I was with her. But her attitude changes completely once you're in the bedroom, and it's very noticeable. And she does this because I think she wants you to not be happy and kick her out and she gets her money. Except she wants more, and she tells you that you fucked too much. Yeah. 5 minutes and not finishing is too much? Right. And then her rent is due the next day. And she has a kid. And she has nothing. Hey, I've gone through that with a couple other girls before. But her attitude in particular is just nasty and I can see why one might be worried if they are with her. I've been with girls that will give you the guilt trip about money, and then you have Ashley who will pretty much demand it.
And the last thing I remember, she has a laugh which is psychotic. How fitting. I ran into her the next day while walking down the strip and wish I had not, she would not leave me alone after I told her I'm wanting to just walk alone and not interested. Sat down at Rumba and she showed up 30 minutes later and sat next to me and said let's go. I told her nope. Walked over to another table and sat down, she follows me. Then asks for money. I just stopped acknowledging her and after some time she finally left.
That's the best I can describe her, I've taken pics of girls but she was just so bad to the point where it was I just wanted her to get lost. There is something about her which concerns me for other mongerers in Sosua. I did not notice any razor on her or anything, but I do recall she wanted the lights off and when I wanted to switch even one lamp on, she objected. Fellow mongerers beware, I thought maybe I was the only one that had a bad experience with her, but seeing someone else post something very similar surely this girl is trouble.You are very smart for figuring this chic out before she had time to do damage.
Thanks for posting your experience with all of us. It does help.
Fuck all you can while you can because if you are like most of us it will not last long enough.
I don't have a picture, but she is at Rumba during the afternoon hours or walking along the strip. I've also spotted her at Rumba at night, she is usually with one other friend. Yes I know that might not help much. But.
She has blonde hair, braces, a pretty face. Hair is curly, but I have seen it straight before. No eyebrows. Nice ass. Tattoo of her name right above it and she has a star tattoo on her stomach as the other poster said. She was actually nice to talk to at first, when I was with her. But her attitude changes completely once you're in the bedroom, and it's very noticeable. And she does this because I think she wants you to not be happy and kick her out and she gets her money. Except she wants more, and she tells you that you fucked too much. Yeah. 5 minutes and not finishing is too much? Right. And then her rent is due the next day. And she has a kid. And she has nothing. Hey, I've gone through that with a couple other girls before. But her attitude in particular is just nasty and I can see why one might be worried if they are with her. I've been with girls that will give you the guilt trip about money, and then you have Ashley who will pretty much demand it.Is this her?
This information is from Casa Cayena's Facebook page:
Sosua News 01/11/2013.
Last week there was meeting of the owners of the bars in the Pedro Clisante with the Director of Tourism of Sosúa.
In this meeting, the Director stated that the bars should be blinded in Pedro Clisante before October 16. That is, to preserve innocent passersby of a glimpse into the bars of the Pedro Clisante. The regulation applies to Bar Central, El Flow, Bar Thick Herman, the Merenguebar, the Rumba Bar and the bar of Willy the vice mayor. Thick Herman is already busy to blind his bar with a wooden wall. The owner of Bar El Flow is also working on the blinds and an air-co as it could obviously get very hot in an enclosed space. Reportedly the owner of the Merenguebar however refuses to blind his bar. He believes that there is no reason to do so.
Nope. Hair color similar, length similar, but not her. She is maybe a shade darker than that girl. Close though, I needed to look at that one twice but this Ashley that I am talking about has poutier lips. She also usually has her hair straight when out at night, but not always. And her eyes are green. The girl in that pic has brown eyes.
Is this her?
That is very Dominican. Anything goes as long as it is covered, hidden, painted, and behind closed doors. Cabanas are how upstanding citizens, celebrities and government people get sleazy. Where else can a product like Mistolin be the top cleaning product? It is nothing but water, perfume, artificial color and just enough soap to make suds, no disinfectant. I hate it when my cleaning lady tries to make me buy it.
This information is from Casa Cayena's Facebook page:
Sosua News 01/11/2013.
Last week there was meeting of the owners of the bars in the Pedro Clisante with the Director of Tourism of Sosúa.
In this meeting, the Director stated that the bars should be blinded in Pedro Clisante before October 16. That is, to preserve innocent passersby of a glimpse into the bars of the Pedro Clisante. The regulation applies to Bar Central, El Flow, Bar Thick Herman, the Merenguebar, the Rumba Bar and the bar of Willy the vice mayor. Thick Herman is already busy to blind his bar with a wooden wall. The owner of Bar El Flow is also working on the blinds and an air-co as it could obviously get very hot in an enclosed space. Reportedly the owner of the Merenguebar however refuses to blind his bar. He believes that there is no reason to do so.
Looks like a known lesbian flaca. Nothing but trouble.
Riky Rapido
10-12-13, 17:46
Is this her?Always with her lezo girlfriend, took them to La Hacienda where the girlfriend watched as Ashley put double condoms on my wanker, then set the clock. Could not have gotten much worse. These girls toot up in the ladies room. Wired each of the two times I have seen them. Bad news.
Well bros, I'm on day 13 of an 18 day trip. Starting on Oct 1. My trip is going as follows. I'll start in the middle. Starting 2 mornings ago. I met a pair of young chicas I've seen walking around all over town, and at the beach. But this particular morning while sitting at NG I took a number (no pun intended) from the one with the red streaks in her hair. I like to grab numbers from cute chicas that have the potential of being candidates. It's no guarantee I'll call them, but I like to take numbers in case I want to check any of them out.
My San Pedro chica has been here in Sosua since Oct 8. So as you can gather, my solo fun started earlier on Oct 1, before she got there. I would consider her a non pro with semi pro tendencies. However, since I don't know what the fuck she does in San Pedro (she lost her job, and has an apartment, she could be a full time pro in San Pedro, or elsewhere, and I just don't know it?)
Anyway, yesterday morning I'm having breakfast at Sinatras restaurant (formerly PJ's ). This is quite a change from my usual of going to NG for breakfast. But this is cool. There aint no dudes or chicas all over the place, like I would see at NG or Baileys. I cook my turkey bacon in my spot, and take it with me, since most restaurants don't have it on their menu. Terra Linda has turkey bacon, but damn that place is expensive. So is Baileys. Them damn taxes.
Ok, while having breakfast with my SP chica, the 2 chicas I bumped into near NG (the previous morning) walked by on their way to the playa. The one whose number I got kept turning around looking and smiling at me. My chica didn't notice it, and I didn't pay much attention to her. They kept walking. The thing I noticed, is that the chica I liked had a nice body.
After breakfast, my chica wanted to go to the salon. Dropped her off, and now I have maybe 2 hours to kill. My mind starts working. I am not much of a day time action kinda guy. But I was thinking about how scrumptious that red haired chica's ass looked in those tight shorts. I texted her 1st to ask where she was, and then followed it up with a phone call. Meanwhile I don't know how long it will take for my chica to finish up at the salon.
So I'm on limited time. It took a few minutes for her to respond. But damn! I know my spanish is basic. But damn this chica had me struggling to get across to her that I wanted to meet up with her. My plan was to take her to the cabana. With all of this awkward communication problems going on, I was ready to abort, and just check her out some other time.
And thats what I told her. I went to Rockys to chill for a while. Red haired girl eventually shows up. I had forgot that I mentioned Rockys to her on the phone. I told her we will have to try another time. She "claims" she is leaving tomorrow for santo domingo. Okay, if I can I'll look for you tonight. Or I'll see you when come back. I can tell this isn't what she wants to hear. She wants my business. Doesn't want to miss the $$$ in my pocket.
Later, after coming back from Cabarete, I told my SP chica that I'm stepping out to hang out with my friends. Called red haired girl, and eventually got her to meet me at NG. It's about 7:30pm Got her in the car, and started to get some things straight. Let her know what I like, find out what she doesn't do or like. I don't want my time wasted. Things went well, and her body language indicated I was going to have a good time with her. Checked her cedula. She's 23 but looks younger. In the cabana, she didn't disappoint.
Pulled into Dulce Secreto. Chose a standard, that has a shower. 590 pesos. The executive unit takes too much time to fill the Jacuzzi tub. Besides I wasnt intending to get romantic or spoon with this chica.
This is one of the rare times where I was the one sort of concerned about my time, instead of the chica having a dude on the clock. There was no rush on her part. She showered, then I. Got in the bed and she starting sucking me. Good feel so far. But I'm nasty. I want to eat her pussy. We get into 69, and I suck her pussy like I usually do. I had her moaning and eventually she came. Her body is very nice. Her tits stand up with nice nipples. Her ass was round, but very soft and feels great in my hands. She puts a condom on me, and rides me until I come. I had no interest in putting in work (changing positions etc ). I'm going to have to do that with my SP chica later anyhow. We finished and got cleaned up. Gave her the pesos, and dropped her off close to Four Roses bar.
Now I have a new juice source down the road. Got back to my spot, and my chica is just chilling watching TV and waiting for me. Whats cool about her, is that she comes very easily. She is getting used to my dick, and getting off quicker and more intensely than when we 1st started fucking in August. After watching TV, she was ready to fuck. Ironically enough, I was surprised that I was able to get it up and get her off. Thank goodness she came within 5 minutes. When it was my turn, I let her ride me until I came. Good thing thing she wasnt checking my leche volume. Because I didn't have much left. Last nights move was a nice change of pace. I could have done the cabana twice, because my blondie chica was calling me too. She is already used to doing the cabana with me when my spot was occupied. I ignored her calls though. I already had her earlier in the week. Plus she has a tendency to be late for the time we agree to meet. Her constantly doing that puts her on my low priority list. Maybe she'll learn to respect my time, maybe she won't.
Chris Long
10-13-13, 23:05
Well bros, I'm on day 13 of an 18 day trip. Starting on Oct 1. My trip is going as follows. I'll start in the middle. Starting 2 mornings ago. I met a pair of young chicas I've seen walking around all over town, and at the beach. But this particular morning while sitting at NG I took a number (no pun intended) from the one with the red streaks in her hair. I like to grab numbers from cute chicas that have the potential of being candidates. It's no guarantee I'll call them, but I like to take numbers in case I want to check any of them out.
My San Pedro chica has been here in Sosua since Oct 8. So as you can gather, my solo fun started earlier on Oct 1, before she got there. I would consider her a non pro with semi pro tendencies. However, since I don't know what the fuck she does in San Pedro (she lost her job, and has an apartment, she could be a full time pro in San Pedro, or elsewhere, and I just don't know it?)
Anyway, yesterday morning I'm having breakfast at Sinatras restaurant (formerly PJ's ). This is quite a change from my usual of going to NG for breakfast. But this is cool. There aint no dudes or chicas all over the place, like I would see at NG or Baileys. I cook my turkey bacon in my spot, and take it with me, since most restaurants don't have it on their menu. Terra Linda has turkey bacon, but damn that place is expensive. So is Baileys. Them damn taxes.
Ok, while having breakfast with my SP chica, the 2 chicas I bumped into near NG (the previous morning) walked by on their way to the playa. The one whose number I got kept turning around looking and smiling at me. My chica didn't notice it, and I didn't pay much attention to her. They kept walking. The thing I noticed, is that the chica I liked had a nice body...Sosua is great, probably the best monger location in the Americas both North and South, in my opinion. But if I had 18 days I'd be in Asia, Sosua is for a four or five day trip any longer and its Asia. I was in Thailand about three months ago for twenty days and slept with over seventy women. I love Sosua, but I love Asia even more.
Chris
Was in Sosua about 5 years ago and was wondering what the going rates are for Chicas these days. I recall the prices being about 1,000 pesos short time and 2,000 to 3,000 Pesos for TLN for the girls from the two main bars in town.
What are the going rates these days.
Thanks
My buddy got back yesterday. 1500 to 2000 for St seems to be the rate.
Was in Sosua about 5 years ago and was wondering what the going rates are for Chicas these days. I recall the prices being about 1, 000 pesos short time and 2, 000 to 3, 000 Pesos for TLN for the girls from the two main bars in town.
What are the going rates these days.
Thanks
Charles Pooter
10-14-13, 14:12
Was in Sosua about 5 years ago and was wondering what the going rates are for Chicas these days. I recall the prices being about 1, 000 pesos short time and 2, 000 to 3, 000 Pesos for TLN for the girls from the two main bars in town.
What are the going rates these days.
ThanksGone up by a third or so in line with the fall in the peso, so no change in terms of the US$.
Was in Sosua about 5 years ago and was wondering what the going rates are for Chicas these days. I recall the prices being about 1, 000 pesos short time and 2, 000 to 3, 000 Pesos for TLN for the girls from the two main bars in town.
What are the going rates these days.
ThanksAs always, it depends on context, time of day, overhead costs, etc. If you are staying at a chica-friendly hotel, then you have no additional costs, but if you need to rent a room to do the deed, this needs to be considered.
I would start negotiations at 1000 pesos for short time, but be prepared to go up as you negotiate and determine what is to be done and how it is to be done. I find it always best to have some kind of terminal bonus on offer for superior performance. A fuck is just a fuck and has no intrinsic value, but a truly erotic experience is worth paying for. The negotiation process should also be part of the foreplay, as it enables a discussion of deeds to be done, which can be a turn on.
You can offer 1000 and if the girl says "Whom are you kidding, I need at least 2000 pesos", you can use this as an entry to say that you always pay 1000 and ask her what she does that makes her worth the big money. Then you tell her that you don't feel like sex today, because your guevo is tired, which will really get her dander up and make her determined to show you that she can get the job done.
You can always walk away and start negotiations with someone else, so don't show too much eagerness.
ConquerorVal
10-14-13, 22:11
I was in Thailand about three months ago for twenty days and slept with over seventy women. I love Sosua, but I love Asia even more.
ChrisHow does a 50is, overweight (your description in your BB report) fellow manage to sleep with so many women in a relatively short time period? Viagra and Red Bull? What is your secret?
Charles Pooter
10-14-13, 22:36
How does a 50is, overweight (your description in your BB report) fellow manage to sleep with so many women in a relatively short time period? Viagra and Red Bull? What is your secret?Asian women are like Chinese meals. You can enjoy one but an two hours later you are hungry again.
Chris Long
10-14-13, 22:54
How does a 50is, overweight (your description in your BB report) fellow manage to sleep with so many women in a relatively short time period? Viagra and Red Bull? What is your secret?I usually sleep with three to five (or more) women a day when I monger. Doesn't everyone?
I thought we all slept with that many women when we monger, isn't that normal for everyone?
Chris
SavePros321
10-14-13, 22:58
Asian women are like Chinese meals. You can enjoy one but an two hours later you are hungry again.LOL, have you seen the photos posted over there in that forum? Those meals would be pretty hard to digest. Maybe it is just me, but I like my women looking more womanly than boyish.
Every now and then you will see a photo posted with a female with (some) curves. But they are few, far, and between.
Mr Enternational
10-15-13, 00:00
LOL, have you seen the photos posted over there in that forum? Those meals would be pretty hard to digest. Maybe it is just me, but I like my women looking more womanly than boyish.
Every now and then you will see a photo posted with a female with (some) curves. But they are few, far, and between.That is more so due to the tastes of those particular people who posts fotos in that section and is not to be taken as a direct representation of the general population. Just think if only guys like CP posted in this thread. Then everyone who looked here would think there were no Dominicans in DR.
SavePros321
10-15-13, 00:43
Just think if only guys like CP posted in this thread. Then everyone who looked here would think there were no Dominicans in DR.Duly noted, LOL!
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 01:04
Then everyone who looked here would think there were no Dominicans in DR.One can but dream.
I usually can only handle 1, unless that 1 was a lousy experience, and then I just want to a second to get it out of my mind!
But on a scale of 1 to 10, compared to the exploits of most of you here, I am probably a 1. Haha. But then, I am quite the exception, compared to a lot of you guys here.
I truly like being with a nice chica, I am confortable being with. On the outside. Meaning someone who looks good and dresses well and has a carefree and plesant, easygoing attitude / manner. So, the GFE experience gives me more pleasure. And, I prefer the Latin chicas over the ones in Pattaya or Manila, anytime. But that is a personal taste thing! To each his own!
I usually sleep with three to five (or more) women a day when I monger. Doesn't everyone?
I thought we all slept with that many women when we monger, isn't that normal for everyone?
Chris
I usually sleep with three to five (or more) women a day when I monger. Doesn't everyone?
I thought we all slept with that many women when we monger, isn't that normal for everyone?
ChrisNo. Two is my max in one day and that's on a good day. If I didn't use condoms, I could go more, but that's not happening.
Catfish Hunter
10-15-13, 06:19
First day in Sosua was a lazy Sunday early evening. First stop cmp.
Me and my rodie walk in and the line up ensues. Selected a stunning one to sit and chat.
She quotes me 2000 for an hour off we go to pay for the room.
The cashier an older lady with dyed redish brown hair charges 2500 for the room.
Gringo mark up maybe. I hand her 3000 and she says when I return I will receive change.
Hmmm. Once in the room this solid 9 ask me for a massage. Wth. Ok no problem.
I proceed to massage and fondle. Once she was relaxed I served her a proper pounding.
She wanted more and more (maybe). After a good bit of time passed it happened.
The dreaded casa door knock every monger fears. But with a cmp twist.
They say since I went over an hour I have to pay double. I promptly told them F. U.
The girl I was with was genuinely terrified and begged me to comply or problems for her
And bigger problems for me. I started thinking about the fellow who was set up in a similar fashion.
And ended up in jail over a padded cmp bill. The main reason I paid was to punish myself.
For not heading the warning of several posters here to stay away from cmp.
For some reason I went with the folks who swear by the place and say they never had a problem.
These cmp cheer leaders will be popping up soon. If you don't like being robbed cheated or falsely.
Imprisoned stay the F out of cmp. That is all.
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ConquerorVal
10-15-13, 12:13
I usually sleep with three to five (or more) women a day when I monger. Doesn't everyone?
I thought we all slept with that many women when we monger, isn't that normal for everyone?
Chris Chris, you really raised the bar for me to unattainable heights. At your rate I would be out of leche before you know it and shooting blanks. You're my hero.
Sosua is great, probably the best monger location in the Americas both North and South, in my opinion. But if I had 18 days I'd be in Asia, Sosua is for a four or five day trip any longer and its Asia. I was in Thailand about three months ago for twenty days and slept with over seventy women. I love Sosua, but I love Asia even more.
ChrisTrue, Sosua is great for mongering. I think I understood, that 4 or 5 days in Sosua is enough for you. Seems mongering is the main thing occupying your time when you go to Sosua? Which is cool for the individual with limited time, or one choosing to spend only for 4 or 5 days in Sosua. However, I could stay up to 3 months in the DR, and reside in Sosua and be cool with that. Why? Because I find so much more to do with my time other than mongering and maximizing my sex count with women.
Everybody is different. Have different circumstances. Different interests, tolerances, motivations, time constraints, goals, social connections etc. How one chooses to spend their time, may not be the same for someone else. And therefore each persons experiences and conclusions of a particular location (in this case Sosua) and what it represents to them, may and will be different. BTW, Asia and other mongering destinations have been in my sights for the near future. I have a strange feeling I might like Thailand a whole lot, and may end up doing long vacations there or becoming a part time resident.
I say that because, I often wondered why so many dudes vacation in Thailand, and eventually end up living there full time? I'm sure it aint only to bang women everyday?
I usually sleep with three to five (or more) women a day when I monger. Doesn't everyone?
I thought we all slept with that many women when we monger, isn't that normal for everyone?I once had sex with 5 women during the course of an afternoon and evening, three singles and a brace, but I don't think I finished with all of them. However, by halfway through day 2 I would be bored with that level of activity and looking for something else to do.
Got up and out around 9am and went to the office (Rockys restaurant ). I was hoping to catch up with a dude I met the day before to see if he wanted to have breakfast. Nobody around, so I have some herbal tea. I'm sitting in the front by the curb and spot a dominican lady who looked like she could be on her way to work. She was about to get on a moto in front of the little market next door. We made eye contact and immediately she detected some interest coming from me, and hesitated long enough for me to suggest she come over to where I was.
She came over, and I noticed the moto guy didn't leave. I figured he was going to stay until she was finished talking, and then he would carry her off to whereever she was going. Everything happens pretty quick. I offered her to come sit with me and have breakfast.
At that moment she claims the moto guy was her brother. Okay, now I see why he didn't leave, even after she sat down with me. She motioned him to come over to meet me, and next thing I know I have two guests for breakfast instead of one. Good thing I was at Rockys instead of lets say Terra Linda or Baileys restaurant. The bill would have been double.
Anyway, after some brief exchange of conversation and contact information, they leave. The understanding was. After she got her phone straight, she could call me later so we could possibly get together. BTW during the conversation, the dude posing as her brother didn't say much. He spoke to her in spanish, but not much initiative towards me. He caame off as a little shy. The woman in typical fashion started telling me that she was unemployed and how it is to find a job etc etc.
When she pulled out her phone she was making it a point of letting me know her phone had problems. I don't know if she was trying to say the phone was damaged or that it didn't have minutes. Either way, the info was likely for me to consider doing something about it. I ignored all of that, because I was already paying attention to the fact that I'm committed to paying for two strangers breakfast and I only would want sex from one of them. And it aint the one with the helmet.
On one hand this might be a good juice prospect, but on the other hand she could end up being a pain in the ass and start hitting me up for requests for shit, and favors. To be honest. Since I thought that is where things could go, it wouldn't have bothered me one bit if she never called. As somewhat of a precaution, I gave her my alternate DR number, instead of my main DR number.
Later that afternoon. My new buddy was at Rockys and he called me to tell me that the lady I met earlier this morning was at Rockys looking for me.
I found out later that she was calling the phone number I gave her, but I didn't know she was calling. I decided to leave my hotel and go meet her. When I got there, she had changed her clothes, and put on a little makeup. Look like she was ready for a date. There was just one thing wrong with her accessories. She had her damn brother with her again? I'm thinking, I hope homey isn't thinking he's getting lunch on me too? She made it clear she was there for me, and he was just dropping her off. I was concerned for a minute because it looked like he was going to follow us to my spot.
He broke off and went elsewhere. I asked if she was hungry, so we went to Rickys rest for some dominican cuisine, and then headed to my spot. We eat, and then sit on the couch. Before long she is laying her head on my lap. My dick was beginning to stiffen so I know the back of her head was feeling something. Here's a description upon 1st meeting. She was about 5'4" light brown complected with long black hair. Her best feature was this scrumptious ass and perfect hips. Not those wide ass hips. She was wearing tight brown stretch pants, and a blouse that allowed you to see she had perky small breasts with cute edible nipples. When she met me again at Rockys she had changed into similar slacks but they were black, and her blouse matched the pants.
While she was laying on the couch, she let me caress her tits over her blouse. I told her I want a massage. No hesitation, she agreed to that. She gave me an excellent massage. BTW, she was born in 71' so that makes her in her early 40's? When it was her turn for a massage she didn't hesitate to strip and lay flat for me. She was average in looks as far as the face, but her body in clothes didn't seem like a woman in her 40's. She had on a sexy red thong on. Normally I like women with full panties. But I must say, she looked very sexy in that red thong. Her body was great without clothes. After the massage we started kissing, and then she reached down and saw I had a problem.
She pushed me back, pulled my briefs off, and started sucking me. The womans head game was on point. I know she would know how to satisfy me to completion. So maybe I'll get to experience that down the road. I'm feeling for moisture while she is sucking me, and I am happy to experience a well lubricated hole. I can't stand them dry ass women. Of course I had to get my licky before sticky on as well. It was all good. Nice sensitive pussy. Next is some good ol fashion fucking. Mind you this is going on in the afternoon. I'm typically more comfortable going at it at night. However for an afternoon session she was great.
Afterwards we both showered up, I put some pesos in her carry bag, and walked her out to the corner to catch a moto. Earlier she talked about me coming to her house tomorrow (which is now today ). I am debating on that. But I wouldn't mind housing that again. And this is one of the things I like about coming to the DR, and Sosua specifically. By chance pussy (pro, non pro, semi pro etc) and opportunities are just about anywhere. Once again, the DR has proven, appointments and / or a game plan to meet women or get pussy is not a requirement.
Chris, You're my hero.Ditto! Helluva nice guy, too. Always helpful.
SavePros321
10-15-13, 17:40
First day in Sosua was a lazy Sunday early evening. First stop cmp.
Me and my rodie walk in and the line up ensues. Selected a stunning one to sit and chat.
She quotes me 2000 for an hour off we go to pay for the room.
The cashier an older lady with dyed redish brown hair charges 2500 for the room.
Gringo mark up maybe. I hand her 3000 and she says when I return I will receive change.
Hmmm. Once in the room this solid 9 ask me for a massage. Wth. Ok no problem.
I proceed to massage and fondle. Once she was relaxed I served her a proper pounding.
She wanted more and more (maybe). After a good bit of time passed it happened.
The dreaded casa door knock every monger fears. But with a cmp twist.
They say since I went over an hour I have to pay double. I promptly told them F. U.
The girl I was with was genuinely terrified and begged me to comply or problems for her
And bigger problems for me. I started thinking about the fellow who was set up in a similar fashion.
And ended up in jail over a padded cmp bill. The main reason I paid was to punish myself.
For not heading the warning of several posters here to stay away from cmp.
For some reason I went with the folks who swear by the place and say they never had a problem.
These cmp cheer leaders will be popping up soon. If you don't like being robbed cheated or falsely.
Imprisoned stay the F out of cmp.That's fucked up bro. Sorry to hear that happened to you. I've never used Passions or CMP while in Sosua. Never was any need to. CMP sounds like a clip joint.
BTW, anyone have an update on Peter's "New" Passions Bar/Restaurant?
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 18:00
First day in Sosua was a lazy Sunday early evening. First stop CMP.Thanks for posting. We get plenty bragging about their successes but not many have the balls to post about their mistakes. But we actually learn more from the latter.
Not that I personally learned anything. I live here and all the ex-pats already know what scammers CMP are because we hear so many stories like yours.
SavePros321
10-15-13, 18:35
I ignored all of that, because I was already paying attention to the fact that I'm committed to paying for two strangers breakfast and I only would want sex from one of them. And it aint the one with the helmet.
And this is one of the things I like about coming to the DR, and Sosua specifically. By chance pussy (pro, non pro, semi pro etc) and opportunities are just about anywhere. Once again, the DR has proven, appointments and / or a game plan to meet women or get pussy is not a requirement.Good report bro. With the amount of time you are putting in to the DR on this trip I am surprised you haven't hopped in your rental and went exploring the other side of the island (SD). But it is always better if you can get them to come to you (like your San Pedro chica).
Had a 3 week stay from mid Sept. to Oct. There are 3 main things for my vacation, rest, chicas, good food. Sosua go through many changes. Love it or hate it? I never want to leave it. The bars-club put up the window frames, but no window screens when I was there. Many new girls every year I return. My hang out bar is Rumba. There were a number of thunder storms in my last week, it did not destroy the fun The beaches of punta cana bavaro have spoiled me. Only went to the beach here once. There is a Haitian woman named Brazila who gives an excellent professional massage. Highly recommend her. PM me for phone number. Photo of her provided in this report. Had a dental cleaning at the Dental Center for 1500 peso.
Mongers. 100 pesos is nothing, If you give 100 pesos to every guy and girl begging everyday you will lose a lot of money. Don't be an ATM machine. Also, when girls try to rush you back to hotel room, I let them know when I will be ready. Take charge, this is my vacation. Let them leave if they can't wait for you. Plenty of chicas available Had some girls for 1000 peso or 1500 ST. Many girls will refuse 1000 pesos, but you can still find some will take 1000 peso ST. Haitian girls are cheaper and provide good sex. But I've had more slamming banging off the hook bomb sex from Dominicanas that just blows me away.
Remember to try and have positive relations with the locals, guys and girls, most will always remember you on your return to Sosua. This is the first year I did not see the police hassle the girls. Again Every time I'm here, there is always a fight in El Flow bar. What ever changes Sosua is going through, make Sosua your own. I still have fun the end of Sosua? I don't see it yet. Stay tuned.
Thanks for posting. We get plenty bragging about their successes but not many have the balls to post about their mistakes. But we actually learn more from the latter.
Not that I personally learned anything. I live here and all the ex-pats already know what scammers CMP are because we hear so many stories like yours.In the DR people will often greet you as "my friend". Anyone who greets you as "my friend" IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. Brothel owners are not your friend. Pimps are not your friend. The owners of CMP are not your friends. The motoconcho drivers who offer to take you to CMP are not your friends, and almost certainly get a commission from the house for bringing you in. When you go to a place like CMP everyone is in on the rip off except for one person-you. The overpriced drinks, food, chica drinks, rooms, sex, surcharges, it is all a plan to separate you from your money.
People like myself and Pooter may be senile old farts, but when we say we stick to freelance Haitianas, there is a reason for this. Much better sex for much less money without the involvement of bloodsucking intermediaries.
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 23:58
People like myself and Pooter may be senile old farts.I RESENT THAT! I have never thought of you as a senile old fart, Frannie, my friend. (Isn't the word "old" redundant there, by the way, or can there be senile young farts? If so, some of the posters here might answer to that description)
. when we say we stick to freelance Haitianas, there is a reason for this. Much better sex for much less money without the involvement of bloodsucking intermediaries.That is my recipe, but I would never force it on others. Most Americans don't like black girls, for starters. Others insist on girls who can speak English and / or Spanish. And the fewer who go for freelance haitianas the more are left for you and me.
I don't have much money, and when I part with it for sex I do like to feel it is going to be well used, to help the chica or her family. It would upset me to think some lazy pimp is taking half of it.
Of course I am not so naïve as to ever be confident where all the money is going. But after a few years here I have a much better sense of who are the "honest" girls who are working to survive or better themselves rather than support a habit or a chulo.
If these guys would screw Rick over a resident. What would they do to a newbie. I think cmp may be on its last leg.
They are getting bad press for a reason. I take my chances with the free lancers. We need to boycott the joint.
That's fucked up bro. Sorry to hear that happened to you. I've never used Passions or CMP while in Sosua. Never was any need to. CMP sounds like a clip joint.
BTW, anyone have an update on Peter's "New" Passions Bar / Restaurant?
I was in Thailand about three months ago for twenty days and slept with over seventy women. I love Sosua, but I love Asia even more.
ChrisGood report as always, Chris. I met some extremely cool females in Thailand. With the abundance of women, the beaches, shopping, food, etc. Thailand is definitely high on my list. I don't think I will go back until I can spend at least a month to 3 months there. The chica in the pic was one of my favs in Pattaya.
SavePros321
10-16-13, 01:33
If these guys would screw Rick over a resident. What would they do to a newbie. I think cmp may be on its last leg.
They are getting bad press for a reason. I take my chances with the free lancers. We need to boycott the joint.Apparently they've greased all the right palms because Peter's spot got shut the fuck down, and CMP is still open!
We need Alex and Shamster to come and explain this one to us because we were told that Sosua was in full cleanup mode to prepare for the cruise ships (lol).
SavePros321
10-16-13, 01:43
Most Americans don't like black girls, for starters.Don't know where you got that from. Maybe you were trying to say "dark-skinned girls"? Mongers sure aren't coming to the DR for Caucasian females, LOL.
If you read any interviews from Black Men in America describing why they go to the DR to meet women, the recurring sentiment is almost always "because you can find a sistah (black woman) without the American attitude and bullshit".
Seriously, anyone can browse Dominican Cupid and see that the same "Dominican" chicas on there would be considered "Black" anywhere in America. Even the light-skinned Dominicanas. In the same vein, someone like Alicia Keys (Black) would probably be considered a "Dominicana" in the DR. Hell, I'm positive you could find someone of the same skin complexion in Haiti just as you can in Nigeria (if any of you have never seen light skinned Africans before, then you need to get out more, lol).
Just for the record:
Black in Latin America: Full Episode: Haiti & the Dominican Republic: An Island Divided
In the Dominican Republic, Professor Gates explores how race has been socially constructed in a society whose people reflect centuries of inter-marriage, and how the country's troubled history with Haiti informs notions about racial classification. In Haiti, Professor Gates tells the story of the birth of the first-ever black republic, and finds out how the slaves's hard fight for liberation over Napoleon Bonaparte's French Empire became a double-edged sword.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/featured/haiti-the-dominican-republic-an-island-divided-watch-full-episode/165/
I don't go to the DR saying "I'm only going to bang light-skinned females", but some guys do. The photos I have posted over the years has been of females from the darkest (Haitians) to the lightest color spectrum. If her body is banging, then she could be purple for all I care, lol!
SavePros321
10-16-13, 02:07
if you read any interviews from black men in america describing why they go to the dr to meet women, the recurring sentiment is almost always "because you can find a sistah (black woman) without the american attitude and bullshit".from media takeout:
august 21, 2012: essence magazine just put a whole lotta dudes relationships in jeopardy. in this month's issue, they have a rep001hing report on the dominican republic. and how it's the new place of choice for black men looking to get prostitutes.
now before we get to the report, we have to put out there that essence magazine is 100% owned by a big corporation and it is no longer owned by black folk. so this could be just another effort by corporate america to destroy black folk.
anyways, essence interviewed a number of black men who were very candid about going to dr to pay for women. they claim that:
- the dominican republic is cheap. you can go to an all inclusive resort for just $600 a week. and women there cost only $20.
- the dominican women know how to "respect" black men, unlike black women. yes, essence printed that mess!
- black women need to learn about "values" from dominican prostitutes. yes, essence printed that sh*t too!
- dominican women have light-skin-and-long-hair, the features that fill the "sweet spot" for black men. the f*ck is wrong with them :o.
all in all, the moral of the story is. if your man took a "getaway trip" with his boys to the dominican in the past year. girl get yourself tested. and then, get in that azz!
http://www.mediatakeout.com/57938/exclusive-report-essence-magazine-sh-ts-on-black-women-in-it-s-new-expose-of-black-men-and-their-secret-f-ck-trips-to-the-dominican-republic.html
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pay special attention to what is said in the second photo attached!!
"you see these successful black guys in the states," says john. "the first thing we do when we get money is find a white girl. but really, white women don't have that black shape and presence. so you go to the dominican women."
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i've added a couple of photos from my personal stock for effect. enjoy! -savepros
from media takeout:
august 21, 2012: essence magazine just put a whole lotta dudes relationships in jeopardy. in this month's issue, they have a rep001hing report on the dominican republic. and how it's the new place of choice for black men looking to get prostitutes.essence magazine seems to run some version of this story every few months.
Apparently they've greased all the right palms because Peter's spot got shut the fuck down, and CMP is still open!
We need Alex and Shamster to come and explain this one to us because we were told that Sosua was in full cleanup mode to prepare for the cruise ships (LOL).That's a great point. Maybe CMP paid someone to have Passions shut down. They couldn't beat them straight-up.
I wonder, are any of the old Passions girls now working at CMP?
I wonder, are any of the old Passions girls now working at CMP?In August, there were 7 Passion girls working at CMP.
For whatever reason, I never had a problem at CMP and I go there 2-4 times each trip to Sosua. I rarely take the girls on site, but usually meet them when they get off work without any issues. I like hanging out in the big couches watching the girls play and hunt new dudes when they come in the place.
I've never been short changed and only buy the cheapest beer for the women. I think Brother D had a good time there as well. Maybe it is just my free flowing attitude; not sure.
ForceSteeler
10-16-13, 11:19
from media takeout:
august 21, 2012: essence magazine just put a whole lotta dudes relationships in jeopardy. in this month's issue, they have a rep001hing report on the dominican republic. and how it's the new place of choice for black men looking to get prostitutes.
now before we get to the report, we have to put out there that essence magazine is 100% owned by a big corporation and it is no longer owned by black folk. so this could be just another effort by corporate america to destroy black folk.
anyways, essence interviewed a number of black men who were very candid about going to dr to pay for women. they claim that:
- the dominican republic is cheap. you can go to an all inclusive resort for just $600 a week. and women there cost only $20...dominican republic is no secret anymore, even the tsa agents at the airport be laughing and telling me "your going to the dominican republic be careful i heard there is a lot of prostitutes so strap up.
also a lot of brothers do not know how to keep there mouth closed when they come back, they feel they have to tell everybody and that is there own demise.
Good report bro. With the amount of time you are putting in to the DR on this trip I am surprised you haven't hopped in your rental and went exploring the other side of the island (SD). But it is always better if you can get them to come to you (like your San Pedro chica).I have a trip report from August posted here somewhere. In that trip I was in the DR for 15 days, flew into Santiago, and split my time between Santiago, SD and Sosua.
I thought this trip I would travel to where many of my contacts were, like Hato Mayor, Santiago, SD etc. It's just that finding chicas right here in and around Sosua made those exploratory trips unnecessary. By the time I put all of the variables together, I surmised it might not work out for the best.
For example : If I visit the chica with a job in Hato Mayor. When is she available? What are her expectations? Where do I stay? How long do I stay in her town? How much inconvenience and / or drama will have to endure while kicking it with her? How much gas and expenses will it cost during the whole trip? Only seen profile Photos, so we both really don't know what each of us looks like.
In SD it may be easier. I could tell the contacts to jump in a taxi and meet me someplace I'm comfortable with. If one contact falls through, I can call another one. I could call my ex regular. She would be glad to see me. I could check out GPB for 1, 000 peso girls, or explore some streetwalkers etc. So in SD there may be more options.
But the thing that stops all of that plotting to go elsewhere, is the fact that chicas from all over the country are coming to Sosua to fuck. Occasionally you can find chicas that come to Sosua with relatively low p4p miles on them. Or in some cases they might be brand spanking new to the scene. Random chicas looking to bring home some cash.
For most of us, all we need is some good pussy. It aint necessary to travel all over the country just to bust nuts in different towns. There has to be something else one is getting out of the experience other than saying, I went to La Romana to get some pussy. I went to Esperanza to get some pussy there.
In Sosua way east of Rumba, on Pedro Clisante or scoot over to avenida / calle Alejo Martinez, in these neighborhoods there are local women all over the place that are open for p4p. I met a Haitian chica last night walking with her cousin about a block from Passions. More on her later. In addition many of the hotels and rooming houses where chicas stay when they come to Sosua are on this end of town. There is also a rooming house by City Lights bar where chicas from all over stay. I met one last night that had a City Lights band on her wrist. She said she was from SD. More on her later.
A dude from NY staying at Sosua Suites was out walking last night. I was sitting in the office (Rockys ). I told him to take a ride with me, and I'll show him some other parts of town. He heard about Passions and he heard about CMP. But since he never been inside, I suggested he at least take a look inside of CMP. Passions was closed.
I walked over to the little desk and asked to see the menu of services. There had to be about 20 or more chicas in there, and about 3 to 5 guys at the most visible in the lounge area. This is a 1st. None and I mean none of the girls did the swarm thing. If they were planted on a couch or chair they stayed there. I'm not saying some didn't try to entice us with body movement, staring or "hey baby" banter. But most of it was done at a respectable distance. And the majority kept on doing whatever they were doing before we rolled in. As far as talent. There were some nice looking women in there of all shapes and sizes. Many light brown complected women. To me they were no different than any of the women currently on the strip. It's just that they were done up to look sexier than they really are, with the makeup, high heels, and skimpy outfit or thong bikini.
But I know better. I've stayed at Mary Rose back in May / June and learned rather quickly, that many of these chicas stay at one of those hotels a couple of feet from Mary Rose. You can catch these women going to the local colmado, or just see them out and about. Or find a way to get their numbers or slip them a number, and make arrangements with them off duty. I'm sure many of these girls would love to keep all of the money they earn rather than their place of employment getting a cut.
When they aint working in CMP, you might not even recognize any of these chicas, because they don't look as stunning in normal attire as they do done up at CMP. In fact. Most of these chicas, including the ones freelancing all over Sosua. You take off all of that makeup, hair do, get them off of those 5 inch pedestals they have on theior feet, pull off the padded bras from those thin chicks. And you got a chica that is basically a plain jane girl you might not give a second look to. Thats how I look at many of these chicas. I say to my self. How is she going to look once she does the transformer jedi trick in my spot? After that realization, them types asking $2500 to 4000 pesos for their time becomes a ridiculous proposition and a ripoff.
I have to say, I kinda felt sorry for some of these girls in CMP. Ready to work but no clients to work on. And then I thought about all of the chicas currently at Rumbas and D'Latins still looking for clients and may not have fucked anybody yet. For many of the chicas thinking of themselves as dimes, they'll stick to their ridiculous p4p prices even if it means not having any clients. And I saw a bunch of those around at 2 am last night. Many hanging at Merengue hoping to be scooped up. The girls don't sit still very long. They have to keep moving around a lot looking to be discovered. They need potential clients to watch them walk from one side of the street to the other in them heels. Them heels definitely does something to make a woman appear sexier. And thats how many of them snag clients. Just from them sashaying around to be seen. However, some just look absolutely awkward trying to walk in them heels/platforms without tripping or slipping.
To me they were no different than any of the women currently on the strip. It's just that they were done up to look sexier than they really are, with the makeup, high heels, and skimpy outfit or thong bikini.
But I know better. I've stayed at Mary Rose back in May / June and learned rather quickly, that many of these chicas stay at one of those hotels a couple of feet from Mary Rose. You can catch these women going to the local colmado, or just see them out and about. Or find a way to get their numbers or slip them a number, and make arrangements with them off duty. I'm sure many of these girls would love to keep all of the money they earn rather than their place of employment getting a cut.
When they aint working in CMP, you might not even recognize any of these chicas, because they don't look as stunning in normal attire as they do done up at CMP. In fact. Most of these chicas, including the ones freelancing all over Sosua. You take off all of that makeup, hair do, get them off of those 5 inch pedestals they have on theior feet, pull off the padded bras from those thin chicks. And you got a chica that is basically a plain jane girl you might not give a second look to. Thats how I look at many of these chicas. I say to my self. How is she going to look once she does the transformer jedi trick in my spot? After that realization, them types asking $2500 to 4000 pesos for their time becomes a ridiculous proposition and a ripoff.This is exactly why it is rarely worth paying a premium for a '10'. The chica who is your dime is probably my '6' and I will offer her 1000 pesos and be prepared to walk and she will probably submit to my will later if not sooner, because I don't care.
Actually this is the case with all women. Sometimes I look at my girl first thing in the morning and think I would like a change of scenery, but then when I look at photos where she is all made up and dressed to kill, she is every bit a dime and she and I together are like beauty and the beast together. So to have this 10 almost 40 years my junior who can't leave my dick alone is nothing to sneeze about.
Also see this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2458623/Most-amazing-make-makeovers-plain-women-transformed-cover-girls.html
It's late 9 ish last night. I'm sitting at Rockys watching chicas go by. One particular chica walks by going towards the supermarket, later she passes right by again this time going towards Rumba. She slows down and smiles. She is cute, nice body. She looks like she could be Haitian (she wasnt) About 5'5" to 5'6". She was wearing flat shoes. She stops and does the typical "Whats your name, where you from?" line. I chuckled when she asked, and told her."you know where I am from".
Mistake number one. She sat down next to me. No real invite from me, but I didn't tell her not to sit either. A few minutes in I offered her a Presidente. Mistake number two. Especially since I know most of these chicas don't appreciate these gestures. And as my story will reveal, these gestures of kindness can be used against you if dealing with the wrong chica. She was one of them.
While sitting there, I asked her how much for her time if I was interested. She typed $2500 for 2 hours and $4000 for TLN. Of course she was thinking I might be a sucker who would pay that. I told her right then, I don't pay those kind of prices. Nor do most men here in Sosua. Now in her mind, she is probably thinking I have already established I might take her with me, we just have to agree on a price. She types. How much am I willing to pay?
I told her I can't tell her that. Once she gave me her price, I don't want to negotiate with her from that. Her price is her price, and thats really what she wants. I was hoping she would take that as a sign that we don't have a meeting of minds, and roll out. But she just sat there trying her best to convince me to give her a price of what I would pay. Once she realized I had my mind made up of not taking her for any price. She decided I needed to pay her some pesos for her time.
I told her I don't owe her for her anything. I did not invite her to sit down. She chose to sit down. In the back of my mind, I'm thinking that buying the cerveza wasnt really a good idea, although it could be perceived as a kind gesture. But I think offering a drink to a chica with her mindset can result in the chica thinking you have taken her off the market at that moment. So I will remember that the next time I get the urge to offer a chica a drink while she is on the prowl for clients.
I decide I had enough of this chica, and now it's beginning to turn ugly. She's getting upset, and I'm telling her she aint going to get no clients acting like that and asking those ridiculous prices. I start to walk towards Terra Linda where my car is parked. I turn my back briefly and the chica picked up the bottle and tossed on me some of what was left in her Presidente bottle. Now my attention towards her is face to face. She makes another attempt, and this splatter misses me. I start to walk towards her and she turns the bottle around as if she might throw it at me or try to club me with it.
I decided it would be best to go back inside the restaurant and just wait her out. There is definitely no money to be made if she continues arguing about getting paid for her time. Now the main reason, I let that beer shower go. Is because I suspect that things could take a drastic turn whereas I would be trying to explain my situation to un sympathetic police. She could lie and say I hit or threatened her and she was defending herself. They might arrest me, and have me now trying to sort out a much bigger problem. At the very least, they would have told me I should pay the chica and allow her to go about her business. I chose the path of least resistance, while thinking of saving my money.
Here's an example of why I chose to be passive on the matter. The dude King Kong, a prominent fixture at Rockys was sitting in Rockys as usual when a chica he knew from passing, came in Rockys and was engaging with him. She may have been talking or touching him in some way. But he got irritated by her and picked up a glass of water and threw some of the water on the chica. That gesture I believe cost him time in the lockup and / or a hefty fine in the thousands of dollar range just for tossing water on a chica.
Now imagine me going after this chica with the Presidente bottle and slapping the shit out of her because she threw some beer on me? She would have got the worst end of OUR exchange on a personal level, but thats not how the police would see it. There were at least a dozen bystanders all just looking but not remotely interested in getting involved. And even if the police were called, there is no telling what the outcome would have been. It's just like when someone has an accident, they call 911 and the police come. Thats when the lying starts. Then the police don't know who to believe. But in the DR, the chica may be favored over a foreigner who has more advantages. Because of King Kong's situation, thats why I didn't retaliate or walk away from the restaurant to allow her to feel she could throw that bottle at me, where I might forget everything and end up in deep trouble.
She eventually left, and I decided it was still kinda early, so I just sat back down and chilled some more. There were a couple of folks in Rockys. I told them jokingly ya'll all can have a cerveza, it's "on me".
Lessons learned (although all chicas arent the same)
Be leery of chicas on the prowl and allowing them to sit with you, or allow them to get in your car or come to your hotel etc.
Buying them shit could lead to problems or their assumption that you put them on the clock.
In conversation never tell them or let them know where you are staying, where you are going, or details that could be used against you.
For instance. If I mentioned anything about my car rental and let her know where it was parked nearby, she could have sought to do damage to it because she didn't get what she thought she deserved.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1484494]heard about CMP. But since he never been inside, I suggested he at least take a look inside of CMP.
What does CMP stand for, please
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1484494]heard about CMP. But since he never been inside, I suggested he at least take a look inside of CMP.
What does CMP stand for, pleaseCarribean Mens Paradise. Its a brothel in case ya didn't know. For anyone interested I did see they have a 1500 peso massage with a happy ending (hand job ). Perhaps that service is a good way to vet a chica and exchange contact info for off duty services.
A few minutes in I offered her a Presidente. Mistake number two. Especially since I know most of these chicas don't appreciate these gestures. And as my story will reveal, these gestures of kindness can be used against you if dealing with the wrong chica. She was one of them.Cultural misread. In countries like the US and UK alcohol is often used as a lubricant for courtship. In a place like Sosua buying a chica an alcoholic drink means that you want to do business, and is not necessary at all. Even a single beer can have some effect in changing behaviour and reducing inhibitions, as you saw. If she ASKS for a beer, then that is even worse, because it could mean she has a taste for alcohol.
My take: If drinking alcohol is part of your normal life, and necessary for you to function and does not impair your judgment, go ahead and drink whatever you want for yourself, but there is absolutely no need to buy drinks for chicas and if you want to negotiate a reasonable price for sex, why on earth would you want to spend money on drinks for her-drinks that may affect her behavior in unpredictable ways.
Reading stuff like this makes me really concerned about Sosua and is a big turn off. Buy the girl a drink in Brazil (excluding Rio and I avoid Rio totally) , or some other Latin countries and they are usually nice and warm towards you, even if it is a place where they do not get a kickback from the drink. This kind of violent behavior is what concerns me about Sosua, that a very large percentage are hardcore! Do most have pimps? Percentage-wise is this libel. A 1 in 4 thing? My first time to DR for vacation is next month and I am quite apprehensive about Sosua. But have already booked 7 nights at Casa Cayena?
Cultural misread. In countries like the US and UK alcohol is often used as a lubricant for courtship. In a place like Sosua buying a chica an alcoholic drink means that you want to do business, and is not necessary at all. Even a single beer can have some effect in changing behaviour and reducing inhibitions, as you saw. If she ASKS for a beer, then that is even worse, because it could mean she has a taste for alcohol.
My take: If drinking alcohol is part of your normal life, and necessary for you to function and does not impair your judgment, go ahead and drink whatever you want for yourself, but there is absolutely no need to buy drinks for chicas and if you want to negotiate a reasonable price for sex, why on earth would you want to spend money on drinks for her-drinks that may affect her behavior in unpredictable ways.
That's just bad luck, sorry you had that experience. I get worried the same thing will happen to me, even though it has not yet. Sometimes a chica will come over and start talking and I will let her know I am not interested or I just want to drink by myself. Most of the time they will take the hint and go away. Very rarely do I have to repeat this, but it can happen.
I think the main concern is a chica thinking she is being lead on and then her time is wasted so she gets nothing from it, after all time is money here. But then again, she initiated wasting her time by wasting yours first. And then gets upset / angry about it. Funny / Interesting and sad how that works. I think you handled it properly though. But we definitely need to take these things into account, we are not locals and are always seen as walking ATMs. Everyone should have a great time but be cautious and chicas view you like this and if one is it interested it is best to make that clear from the start and walk away or just not answer them if they are persistent.
It's late 9 ish last night. I'm sitting at Rockys watching chicas go by. One particular chica walks by going towards the supermarket, later she passes right by again this time going towards Rumba. She slows down and smiles. She is cute, nice body. She looks like she could be Haitian (she wasnt) About 5'5" to 5'6". She was wearing flat shoes. She stops and does the typical "Whats your name, where you from?" line. I chuckled when she asked, and told her."you know where I am from".
Mistake number one. She sat down next to me. No real invite from me, but I didn't tell her not to sit either. A few minutes in I offered her a Presidente. Mistake number two. Especially since I know most of these chicas don't appreciate these gestures. And as my story will reveal, these gestures of kindness can be used against you if dealing with the wrong chica. She was one of them.
While sitting there, I asked her how much for her time if I was interested. She typed $2500 for 2 hours and $4000 for TLN. Of course she was thinking I might be a sucker who would pay that. I told her right then, I don't pay those kind of prices. Nor do most men here in Sosua. Now in her mind, she is probably thinking I have already established I might take her with me, we just have to agree on a price. She types. How much am I willing to pay?
I told her I can't tell her that. Once she gave me her price, I don't want to negotiate with her from that. Her price is her price, and thats really what she wants. I was hoping she would take that as a sign that we don't have a meeting of minds, and roll out. But she just sat there trying her best to convince me to give her a price of what I would pay. Once she realized I had my mind made up of not taking her for any price. She decided I needed to pay her some pesos for her time.
I told her I don't owe her for her anything. I did not invite her to sit down. She chose to sit down. In the back of my mind, I'm thinking that buying the cerveza wasnt really a good idea, although it could be perceived as a kind gesture. But I think offering a drink to a chica with her mindset can result in the chica thinking you have taken her off the market at that moment. So I will remember that the next time I get the urge to offer a chica a drink while she is on the prowl for clients..
The Mind Bender
10-16-13, 17:05
In about 3 trips I've never been to CMP.
I keep hearing mixed reviews but I guess I'll swing by next time just to see it for myself. I definitely prefer "takeout" to in house action so I'll probably just arrange a meet for later.
When they aint working in CMP, you might not even recognize any of these chicas, because they don't look as stunning in normal attire as they do done up at CMP. In fact. Most of these chicas, including the ones freelancing all over Sosua. You take off all of that makeup, hair do, get them off of those 5 inch pedestals they have on theior feet, pull off the padded bras from those thin chicks. And you got a chica that is basically a plain jane girl you might not give a second look to. Thats how I look at many of these chicas. I say to my self. How is she going to look once she does the transformer jedi trick in my spot? After that realization, them types asking $2500 to 4000 pesos for their time becomes a ridiculous proposition and a ripoff.
I have to say, I kinda felt sorry for some of these girls in CMP. Ready to work but no clients to work on. And then I thought about all of the chicas currently at Rumbas and D'Latins still looking for clients and may not have fucked anybody yet. For many of the chicas thinking of themselves as dimes, they'll stick to their ridiculous p4p prices even if it means not having any clients. And I saw a bunch of those around at 2 am last night. Many hanging at Merengue hoping to be scooped up. The girls don't sit still very long. They have to keep moving around a lot looking to be discovered. They need potential clients to watch them walk from one side of the street to the other in them heels. Them heels definitely does something to make a woman appear sexier. And thats how many of them snag clients. Just from them sashaying around to be seen. However, some just look absolutely awkward trying to walk in them heels / platforms without tripping or slipping.Yeah you've got to be good at looking though all the makeup sorcery. Avoid the aggressive, overly made up, cat suit wearing crowd and find winner who's off in a corner on her own.
Question: Is there any place near Mary Rose that you can "chica watch"?
ThunderStar
10-16-13, 18:12
Came back a 3 weeks ago from The Mary Rose. And yes there is.
Just across the road is a small store. And there are normally loads of people. Just sitting around watching the world go by with a beer in hand.
OR
Turn left out or MR and there is a small "restaurant". Local food. Where you can eat, drink and watch the world go by early evening.
Cultural misread. In countries like the US and UK alcohol is often used as a lubricant for courtship. In a place like Sosua buying a chica an alcoholic drink means that you want to do business, and is not necessary at all. Even a single beer can have some effect in changing behaviour and reducing inhibitions, as you saw. If she ASKS for a beer, then that is even worse, because it could mean she has a taste for alcohol.
My take: If drinking alcohol is part of your normal life, and necessary for you to function and does not impair your judgment, go ahead and drink whatever you want for yourself, but there is absolutely no need to buy drinks for chicas and if you want to negotiate a reasonable price for sex, why on earth would you want to spend money on drinks for her-drinks that may affect her behavior in unpredictable ways.I can tell you that your analysis although true when it applies accordingly, it is also flawed where it doesn't apply accordingly. Buying chicas drinks does not necessarily mean you want to do business. And it certainly doesn't mean every chica assumes that. It is already understood buying drinks is not necessary. But that is what some guys do. Just like individuals do when they offer to buy other people they are socializing with a drink.
WTH do you think most guys are doing with chicas in all of these trip reports? Holding hands? They are drinking with chicas. They are buying chicas drinks. They are sharing with chicas. They are buying and stocking their fridges with alcohol for themselves and their company. You've never bought chicas anything to eat or drink in all of your years mongering? I wouldn't believe it if you said you didn't. And yes, It aint necessary of course, but it's done. Buying chicas drinks is that mongers thing, thats their business. This is the 1st time I had a chica take that route. My situation is something to take into consideration, but that incident won't stop me from offering or sharing with a chica if I choose to. Have you any input to many of the other posters like TomJackin who shared reports and photos of them buying and drinking with chicas? I don't recall much. But this incident woke you up for some reason?
Here is something to take into consideration. If a chica gets one drink in her and shows her ass before she gets to a mongers spot, Is it better to discover some issues before hand, or after she's in your spot offering her drinks and then she turns into an incubus? Things aint always one way or the other. Judgements can be made according to the situation and be made flexible to fit the circumstances and the people relating. I'm sure some guys here can attest to buying drinks or sharing drinks with chicas and had no issues at all. Which sets the standard to follow? One problem, or 3 dozen incidentless outcomes?
That's just bad luck, sorry you had that experience. I get worried the same thing will happen to me, even though it has not yet. Sometimes a chica will come over and start talking and I will let her know I am not interested or I just want to drink by myself. Most of the time they will take the hint and go away. Very rarely do I have to repeat this, but it can happen.
I think the main concern is a chica thinking she is being lead on and then her time is wasted so she gets nothing from it, after all time is money here. But then again, she initiated wasting her time by wasting yours first. And then gets upset / angry about it. Funny / Interesting and sad how that works. I think you handled it properly though. But we definitely need to take these things into account, we are not locals and are always seen as walking ATMs. Everyone should have a great time but be cautious and chicas view you like this and if one is it interested it is best to make that clear from the start and walk away or just not answer them if they are persistent.Thanks for sharing. I realized buying this particular chica was not helping the situation. But it didn't turn bad until I let her know I wasnt interested in being with her for any price. Moreover I don't know how she would have conducted herself when it came to getting down to business. Her showing out was a good thing. Because I was attracted to her. But her price was a red flag that she was bad news, and how she likely looked at me as a sucker when her brain decided that 2500/4000 was a fair price.
In about 3 trips I've never been to CMP.
I keep hearing mixed reviews but I guess I'll swing by next time just to see it for myself. I definitely prefer "takeout" to in house action so I'll probably just arrange a meet for later.
Yeah you've got to be good at looking though all the makeup sorcery. Avoid the aggressive, overly made up, cat suit wearing crowd and find winner who's off in a corner on her own.
Question: Is there any place near Mary Rose that you can "chica watch"?I can second those words of wisdom from Mind Bender. Staying far away from the girls who are overly aggressive, wear cat suits and have excessive war paint on their faces. I have had far better luck with the demure seemingly shy ones.
Manizales911
10-16-13, 20:47
I can tell you that your analysis although true when it applies accordingly, it is also flawed where it doesn't apply accordingly. Buying chicas drinks does not necessarily mean you want to do business. And it certainly doesn't mean every chica assumes that. It is already understood buying drinks is not necessary. But that is what some guys do. Just like individuals do when they offer to buy other people they are socializing with a drink.I agree with you Wrx, she used the purchase of the drink as an excuse to try to intimidate you into paying her for her time, I have bought hundreds of girls drinks and never once have I had a girl tell me that I owed her money for time spent. Buying a girl a drink is S. O. P. For the commencement of the interview process and is practiced by mongers world wide every day.
It is already understood buying drinks is not necessary. But that is what some guys do. Just like individuals do when they offer to buy other people they are socializing with a drink.But that is my whole point-if you come from an alcohol-based society where it is expected that people buy drinks for their friends and company, or stock their fridges with drinks for themselves and their friends, you may feel some social obligation to buy drinks for chicas, and of course that is exactly what the bar owners are counting on and why chica bars are profitable. However it is not at all necessary to buy drinks for chicas if you want to monger-even if many of the chicas are found in bars.
I would think this is an interesting point since people on this board consistently discuss how to reduce expenses on their trips and buying drinks for chicas could be a significant and totally avoidable expense. If people are going to whine about things like taxi fares from the airport and then spend a significant amount of money on alcohol for prostitutes, that is an odd priority.
You've never bought chicas anything to eat or drink in all of your years mongering? I wouldn't believe it if you said you didn't. And yes, It aint necessary of course, but it's done.If I am spending the day with someone, then of course I am buying all their food and drink, but I would rarely buy drinks in bars for new acquaintances, because I am not into that, and don't like the smoke in bars anyway. I rarely drink (alcohol) myself, so I certainly don't feel any obligation to buy drinks for others unless, perhaps, I specifically thought a chica would perform better in bed if some alcohol was administered first. Not buying chicas drinks has had no noticeable detrimental effect on my sex life.
Charles Pooter
10-16-13, 21:43
Do most have pimps?Very few have pimps in the US sense of the word who drive them out to work and watch them like hawks forcing them to maximise income or control them through a drug habit or violence.
A lot of full-time working girls have husbands or boyfriends who they totally or partially support and most of them do it quite willingly because they are fond of these parasites and have grown up in the Latin culture that this behaviour is normal and expected.
It is very rare for the gringo mongers to knowingly come into contact with these lowlifes. Sometimes they will be the moto drivers with whom the girls arrive and you can spot that by the girls having a conversation with them, exchanging cash or door-keys with them, or giving them a peck on the cheek, but otherwise they won't behave any differently from other motoconchistas.
If you want to almost guarantee avoiding this scum then avoid the hardcore putas and the bars they frequent.
My first time to DR for vacation is next month and I am quite apprehensive about Sosua. But have already booked 7 nights at Casa Cayena?Casa Cayena is an excellent choice and a great base for your trip.
95% of the guys who have problems with chicas, police, bar-owners, etc, are doing something wrong. They have drunk too much (none at all would be best but that is too much to expect from most guys here) , or they attracting attention themselves in one way or another (dress, mouthing off, misplaced attempts at humor, getting into conversations with locals, attracting the attention of hard-core putas, being too generous (such as buying rounds for strangers) , being too tight (such as quibbling over 20 pesos change when you should just walk away and don't go back to that bar) , going back with girls to their place (potentially very dangerous) , etc.
From your posts you seem a cautious, even timid, person but also an experienced and sensible one. I don't think you will feel the necessity to do any of the above things to have a great time. Hang with some decent ex-pats or veteran visitors on your first two days until you know your way around. No need to stay with them after if they have outlived their usefulness and you want to go it alone.
You will have a great time in Sosua, but if you are really into dancing you may have a better one in Puerto Plata. (I mean Latin dancing, of course, bachata, merengue and salsa).
But if you drink too much, or (like me) act stupid after very little alcohol, then all bets are off.
You can shade the odds in your favor by going with haitianas, but if you are not attracted to black girls that advice won't help much.
The reason haitianas tend to be less trouble is they are mostly illegal immigrants and don't want to attract attention to themselves. Dominican police and other Dominicans will usually support their own countrymen / women right or wrong, but they won't favor haitianas over gringos.
Another reason some of us favor haitianas is that they are more intelligent on average. Most dominican putas are on the game because they are too stupid to get a decent job, but such is the disastrous economic situation in Haiti that quite intelligent and educated girls have no other choice.
But that is my whole point-if you come from an alcohol-based society where it is expected that people buy drinks for their friends and company, or stock their fridges with drinks for themselves and their friends, you may feel some social obligation to buy drinks for chicas, and of course that is exactly what the bar owners are counting on and why chica bars are profitable. However it is not at all necessary to buy drinks for chicas if you want to monger-even if many of the chicas are found in bars.
I would think this is an interesting point since people on this board consistently discuss how to reduce expenses on their trips and buying drinks for chicas could be a significant and totally avoidable expense. If people are going to whine about things like taxi fares from the airport and then spend a significant amount of money on alcohol for prostitutes, that is an odd priority.
If I am spending the day with someone, then of course I am buying all their food and drink, but I would rarely buy drinks in bars for new acquaintances, because I am not into that, and don't like the smoke in bars anyway. I rarely drink (alcohol) myself, so I certainly don't feel any obligation to buy drinks for others unless, perhaps, I specifically thought a chica would perform better in bed if some alcohol was administered first. Not buying chicas drinks has had no noticeable detrimental effect on my sex life.Your point is moot because you are basing it on ifs and mights which don't exist in my example. One, I never felt or said anything about being obligated to buy a chica a drink. Two, the chica didn't ask for a drink. I offered it. And I didn't do it because I was hoping it would lead to anything. And as I said before its already understood by most I'm certain, that buying a chica a drink is not necessary. Giving a chica a 200 peso propina with the idea it will lead to a good performance next encounter, that isn't necessary either but mongers do it. Am I right? So lets not come off self righteous here.
And third! There was no issue made over the expense over a small presidente. So All of these what if issues you are bringing up, have nothing to with what I was focused on. Also, lets not ignore the fact that your statement is not an absolute, that buying a chica a drink in Sosua means one is saying they want to do business. That simply is not true in all cases. You want something to stick because you said it. But I'm sorry it just doesn't hold true for every situation, nor is that statement consistent in practice.
Now as far as you are concerned, what you do with your time and money is your business. Nobody really cares one way the other. And IMO, I think that would be a better approach than simply assigning variables to people that may not even apply. I'm sure I asked this before of you. Why not ask for feedback on how someone thinks or feels instead of suggesting things that may not apply?
Dominican Republic is no secret anymore, even the TSA Agents at the airport be laughing and telling me "your going to the Dominican republic be careful I heard there is a lot of prostitutes so strap up.
Also a lot of brothers do not know how to keep there mouth closed when they come back, they feel they have to tell everybody and that is there own demise.I have gone to Haiti, but avoided DR and Brazil for obvious reasons. Now that my divorce is almost final, I already have a 10 year visa to hit Brazil and the DR is on my places to visit next year!
Why not ask for feedback on how someone thinks or feels instead of suggesting things that may not apply?Because you wrote for public consumption a little story about something that went wrong when you bought a chica a drink as an intended friendly gesture and ended up getting beer thrown on you.
This is a public forum and I am perfectly entitled to pick up something you mentioned and expand on it. It doesn't have to be all about you, because anything I write is addressed to a general readership including a large number of people who lurk but never post and who are perhaps weighing the pros and cons of a visit to the DR.
Point remains that one might think it is just good manners to offer a woman an alcoholic drink, but in the DR you really don't have to. I am not really concerned about the specifics of your situation, because you have been to Sosua enough that you should know how to handle situations that get difficult, and indeed you did handle this situation sensibly once it ran out of control. Maybe she was just a psycho anyway, or desperate for money, who knows, but I still think it is better policy to offer a soft drink or juice if you want to give a girl something to suck on.
Dominican Republic is no secret anymore, even the TSA Agents at the airport be laughing and telling me "your going to the Dominican republic be careful I heard there is a lot of prostitutes so strap up.I would report them to a supervisor. It is completely out of order for federal employees to speak to passengers in this manner.
Very few have pimps in the US sense of the word who drive them out to work and watch them like hawks forcing them to maximise income or control them through a drug habit or violence.
A lot of full-time working girls have husbands or boyfriends who they totally or partially support and most of them do it quite willingly because they are fond of these parasites and have grown up in the Latin culture that this behaviour is normal and expected.
It is very rare for the gringo mongers to knowingly come into contact with these lowlifes. Sometimes they will be the moto drivers with whom the girls arrive and you can spot that by the girls having a conversation with them, exchanging cash or door-keys with them, or giving them a peck on the cheek, but otherwise they won't behave any differently from other motoconchistas.
If you want to almost guarantee avoiding this scum then avoid the hardcore putas and the bars they frequent.
Casa Cayena is an excellent choice and a great base for your trip.
95% of the guys who have problems with chicas, police, bar-owners, etc, are doing something wrong. They have drunk too much (none at all would be best but that is too much to expect from most guys here) , or they attracting attention themselves in one way or another (dress, mouthing off, misplaced attempts at humor, getting into conversations with locals, attracting the attention of hard-core putas, being too generous (such as buying rounds for strangers) , being too tight (such as quibbling over 20 pesos change when you should just walk away and don't go back to that bar) , going back with girls to their place (potentially very dangerous) , etc.
From your posts you seem a cautious, even timid, person but also an experienced and sensible one. I don't think you will feel the necessity to do any of the above things to have a great time. Hang with some decent ex-pats or veteran visitors on your first two days until you know your way around. No need to stay with them after if they have outlived their usefulness and you want to go it alone.
You will have a great time in Sosua, but if you are really into dancing you may have a better one in Puerto Plata. (I mean Latin dancing, of course, bachata, merengue and salsa).
But if you drink too much, or (like me) act stupid after very little alcohol, then all bets are off.
You can shade the odds in your favor by going with haitianas, but if you are not attracted to black girls that advice won't help much.
The reason haitianas tend to be less trouble is they are mostly illegal immigrants and don't want to attract attention to themselves. Dominican police and other Dominicans will usually support their own countrymen / women right or wrong, but they won't favor haitianas over gringos.
Another reason some of us favor haitianas is that they are more intelligent on average. Most dominican putas are on the game because they are too stupid to get a decent job, but such is the disastrous economic situation in Haiti that quite intelligent and educated girls have no other choice.This is a five-star post and should be memorized by all newbies.
In a place like Sosua buying a chica an alcoholic drink means that you want to do business, and is not necessary at all. Even a single beer can have some effect in changing behaviour and reducing inhibitions, as you saw. If she ASKS for a beer, then that is even worse, because it could mean she has a taste for alcohol.Aww gee whiz Mr. Rogers, come on and buy a chica a cheap ass beer.:)
Hell, I'll even give you some pesos when I get out there next month.
Charles Pooter
10-17-13, 00:56
I have gone to Haiti, but avoided DR and Brazil for obvious reasons. Now that my divorce is almost final, I already have a 10 year visa to hit Brazil and the DR is on my places to visit next year!I assume the "obvious reasons" are that Brazil and DR are notorious for prostitution? I would be interested in the reasons you gave for going to Haiti. Charity work?
Because you wrote for public consumption a little story about something that went wrong when you bought a chica a drink as an intended friendly gesture and ended up getting beer thrown on you.
This is a public forum and I am perfectly entitled to pick up something you mentioned and expand on it. It doesn't have to be all about you, because anything I write is addressed to a general readership including a large number of people who lurk but never post and who are perhaps weighing the pros and cons of a visit to the DR.
Point remains that one might think it is just good manners to offer a woman an alcoholic drink, but in the DR you really don't have to. I am not really concerned about the specifics of your situation, because you have been to Sosua enough that you should know how to handle situations that get difficult, and indeed you did handle this situation sensibly once it ran out of control. Maybe she was just a psycho anyway, or desperate for money, who knows, but I still think it is better policy to offer a soft drink or juice if you want to give a girl something to suck on.You could have easily made your point without quoting me. Apparently you don't know or see the significance of how you come off in the manner you responded to a portion of my post? Apparently I won't get through to you. You are focused on your rights. But my question to you is, you didn't think the message you were trying to get across could stand on its own merits unless you quoted a portion of my post? Even if your comments are for others in this forum, it still can come off as being condescending and self righteous. Especially if those ifs you brought up still doesn't apply to that individual.
You are well within your rights to post as you please. Just as I am in expanding on the flaws in your POV. Like your generalized conclusion that buying a chica a drink in Sosua means someone wants to do business. I know you enjoy expanding on others comments, but when you make those types of statements my challenge to your POV is not all about you.
Likewise much of what I respond to is for a general readership including a large number of people who lurk but never post and who are perhaps weighing the pros and cons of certain debateable statements made by certain individuals.
Apparently they've greased all the right palms because Peter's spot got shut the fuck down, and CMP is still open!
We need Alex and Shamster to come and explain this one to us because we were told that Sosua was in full cleanup mode to prepare for the cruise ships (LOL).You take things so black and white. Always maintained part of the issue was Peter's gringo arrogance of flaunting wealth in a poor country.
Fellow posters are posting articles showing the number of brothel shutdowns and strategic tourist government mission. No matter what garbage you spout out, the plan is moving forward. Yes of course some establishments will remain due to political connections which is normal.
Thanks for posting. We get plenty bragging about their successes but not many have the balls to post about their mistakes. But we actually learn more from the latter.
Not that I personally learned anything. I live here and all the ex-pats already know what scammers CMP are because we hear so many stories like yours.Yea, too many legends in their own mind with exaggerated conquests.
Thanks again, Charles. You are a big help, and I appreciate your suggestions / advice a lot.
A couple of questions, please:
1. What are some of ways to spot a Haitian without talking to them (I. E. To just tell them apart, besides skin color, although I guess not 100% are distinctly different from the Dominicans. Of course, they speak Haitian / French version)
2. How much is a Taxista (the publically licensed ones, as opposed to the private driver) from say Playa Dorada to Sosua vs. Cabarete (I like Tex Mex)
3. How much is a Taxista from Cabarete to Sosua?
FYI, I rarely get drunk, and try to stay low key and observe carefully.
Also, FYI, my guess is that if you saw me, you may think I could be Southern Italian, maybe Brazilian, maybe Colombian etc. Meaning I am not white. But little mixed. Was married for over 20 years to a Texan! Most Latinos cannot believe that I don't speak Spanish. FWIW, One AA flight told me, in front of a large group of people on board (going to Brazil) , that she could not believe that I did not speak Spanish or Portuguese, and that she was sure I did, and that I was probably ashamed to admit it!
I consider myself an internationalist and genuinely in the core of my heart, love peoples of different cultures, love to observe and study them. Lived out of a suitcase, traveling the globe for work for 20 plus years, more 50% of business days, each of those years! But I am NOT very experienced like many of you on these boards in the chica area. And, because of my looks, if I don't open my mouth, I would blend right in, visually speaking! Both a plus and a minus!
Thanks
Very few have pimps in the US sense of the word who drive them out to work and watch them like hawks forcing them to maximise income or control them through a drug habit or violence.
A lot of full-time working girls have husbands or boyfriends who they totally or partially support and most of them do it quite willingly because they are fond of these parasites and have grown up in the Latin culture that this behaviour is normal and expected.
It is very rare for the gringo mongers to knowingly come into contact with these lowlifes. Sometimes they will be the moto drivers with whom the girls arrive and you can spot that by the girls having a conversation with them, exchanging cash or door-keys with them, or giving them a peck on the cheek, but otherwise they won't behave any differently from other motoconchistas.
If you want to almost guarantee avoiding this scum then avoid the hardcore putas and the bars they frequent.
Casa Cayena is an excellent choice and a great base for your trip.
95% of the guys who have problems with chicas, police, bar-owners, etc, are doing something wrong. They have drunk too much (none at all would be best but that is too much to expect from most guys here) , or they attracting attention themselves in one way or another (dress, mouthing off, misplaced attempts at humor, getting into conversations with locals, attracting the attention of hard-core putas, being too generous (such as buying rounds for strangers) , being too tight (such as quibbling over 20 pesos change when you should just walk away and don't go back to that bar) , going back with girls to their place (potentially very dangerous) , etc.
From your posts you seem a cautious, even timid, person but also an experienced and sensible one. I don't think you will feel the necessity to do any of the above things to have a great time. Hang with some decent ex-pats or veteran visitors on your first two days until you know your way around. No need to stay with them after if they have outlived their usefulness and you want to go it alone...
Mongerer69
10-17-13, 11:46
Last trip to Sosua, on my return (after a broken string of 6 or so trips to the Philippines) the Immigration Officer said to me "what's the matter (my name) are you getting tired of the Philippines?" I laughed and said NEVER. Like MacArthur I will return but the DR is good for a quick trip. He laughed, winked his eye, stamped my Passport and said welcome back. No harm no foul. I guess you have to read the person to see if there is malicious intent. This guy wished he was me. LOL.
I would report them to a supervisor. It is completely out of order for federal employees to speak to passengers in this manner.
Its morning, Oct 16. Get up and went to the office (Rockys ). Shared my experience with a couple of buddies during breakfast. Found out I wasnt the only one that had an interesting night. 2 dudes staying at Sosua Suites. The 1st one is 30 ish. He was out on the prowl around 3 ish in the morning. Meets a chica, takes her back to his spot. Sometime during or after they were finished he discovers some blood on his condom. He talks to her about it, and she claims that she is pregnant, but she needs the money. I'm fuzzy on exact time frame details but I believe he told me later she said she was experiencing some sort of pain while in his company / hotel.
At some point he paid her what they agreed, and even gave her a few pesos more. She left. Again fuzzy on time details, but she comes back, and this time with another chica for backup. She starts complaining to him that she is experiencing some severe pain and / or discomfort, and now she wants him to give her more money so she can go to the hospital or somewhere to take care of it.
Oh and FYI, he said if she was pregnant, she wasnt showing in the least. My guess was, she was on her period, or coming on or going off, and she just used that to claim she was pregnant to draw more sympathy and pesos. The end result? He called her bluff and gave her no money. But he didn't blast her, he just did the no tengo routine until they both felt they werent going to get anything out of him. Of course after that experience, you know homey wasnt sure if she was done. After all, she was bold enough to come back to extort pesos from him, she's may be bold enough to come at him another way.
So I guess he wasnt sure she was really done, or coming back later with other resources, like law enforcement. Fortunately nothing else happened that night / morning.
The 2nd dudes situation is with a late 40 ish dude with only 2 trips under his belt. His situation is comprised of a series of missteps or ill-advised moves concerning a certain chica he made plans to hook up with. It started off with her being 3 hours late for their hookup, but he says it wasnt a major issue because he was pre-occupied while he was waiting.
IMO a chica 3 hours late and no valid excuse is not something to overlook. IMO, its a red flag indicating a lack of respect for someone elses time. If not checked, it could lead to more of the same, or other disrespectful behavior. He may very well not intend to repeat with a particular chica, but if a dude is consistently allowing their time to be devalued by these chicas, they may very well be sending the wrong message, and giving chicas more incentive to see what else they can get away with. Especially when they encounter one of those nice , caring type of guys. Which he is.
Anyway, they get to his spot around 3 in the afternoon. According to him, she's not saying much and seems bored or disinterested in being there. At some point he allows her to get on his Ipad, and that keeps her amused and entertained for a while. And yes he offered her food and beverages while together.
Nightfall comes, and he still hasnt fucked this chick. Fuzzy on time frames, but he said at some point he wanted to discuss what she expected for her time. She told him then, she doesn't like to talk about that or negotiate. She aint like those other women in the street, blah blah blah. That causes him to back off I suppose until he brings it up again. I guess it's getting kinda late, and he is ready to get busy.
He finally convinces her to give him a figure. She says 3000 pesos. She meant short time, like 2 hours, not all night. The problem though, she has already been with him since at least 3 in the afternoon, and now it's evening. She has already been with this cat for several hours. He countered her price. Not sure, but I think they agreed on another price? Or he paid her the 3000 since she was with him half the day???
He starts off giving her oral, and she comes. He lays back on the bed hoping his turn is next. Chick lays back on the bed too. He's thinking, and finally got around to asking."Well arent you going to return the favor and suck my dick?" She said, I don't do that. Now it's really starting to sink in that he made a huge mistake with this individual. Starting with tolerating her being late. Okay so eventually they get to having sex. But by then he's so disgusted with how this whole charade played out, he couldn't even enjoy the sex. I think he said he didn't bust. So me and a couple of other cats went over his scenario to discuss the many red flags waving in his face and the missteps he took dealing with that chica, and some perspective for future reference.
Last trip to Sosua, on my return (after a broken string of 6 or so trips to the Philippines) the Immigration Officer said to me "what's the matter (my name) are you getting tired of the Philippines?" I laughed and said NEVER. Like MacArthur I will return but the DR is good for a quick trip. He laughed, winked his eye, stamped my Passport and said welcome back. No harm no foul. I guess you have to read the person to see if there is malicious intent. This guy wished he was me. LOL.So immigration now has you flagged as a sex tourist. Great, but immigration officers and TSA employees are two completely different things, and he didn't say anything about prostitutes or condoms.
Anyway, they get to his spot around 3 in the afternoon. According to him, she's not saying much and seems bored or disinterested in being there. At some point he allows her to get on his Ipad, and that keeps her amused and entertained for a while. And yes he offered her food and beverages while together.
Nightfall comes, and he still hasn't fucked this chick. Fuzzy on time frames, but he said at some point he wanted to discuss what she expected for her time. She told him then, she doesn't like to talk about that or negotiate.Shows the error of trying to treat these girls like girlfriends on first acquaintance, when very likely the guy does not have enough Spanish to be able to really read her character. He probably thought that if he didn't treat her like a hooker then she would respect him for that.
My experience is that you have to treat them like dogs. I love dogs to death, but you must establish complete dominance before you give them any liberties, always give clear and unambiguous signals, and make sure that they are 100% loyal to you before you give them any liberties, otherwise they will try to take the lead, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the furniture, etc. You do not give a dog your iPad to play with, or it will be Skyping other dogs and spreading rebellion.
You do not give a dog your iPad to play with, or it will be Skyping other dogs and spreading rebellion.Are you talking to me? You know nothing about dogs we use Facebook or text messaging but never Skype that is not the way we roll. LOL.
B D
Became aquainted with Milagros on the beach last week. She is one of the many massage ladies walking up and down the beach in Sosua looking for clients. I had one massage from Milagros. Got her to come to my hotel. Got a decent half hour massage. Cost a grip. 800 pesos. And yes, an hour would have been 1600 pesos. I don't know if those were really her regular prices or her trying to get over?
During our appointment were getting to know each other. And every time I am on the beach she would stop to socialize. I learned a few things about her over the course of coming to beach. At some point she mentioned inviting me to her house for dinner. Of course I was buying the groceries. Well that day came, it was yesterday. She was finished at 3 pm on the playa, and we met up at Playero to get the groceries. One of her sons works at the little bakery in the front corner of the store. Met him, and then we went shopping.
Bought fish, fries, stuff for a salad, juice and miscellaneous stuff. Headed toward Cabarete. About a mile and a haalf short of the main drag in Cabarete, she directs me to turn right. I head down a paved street for a minute, turned down another paved street, and then was directed to turn down a street that had my suv rocking like an amusement park ride. There is only enough room for my vehicle to pass and a person walking along side, not enough room for 2 cars. I'm passing shack after shack, taking more turns. At some point we interrupted group of people sitting at a table. In order for us to get by they had to move their chairs so I could pass.
This is not an area where vehicles pass. This area is more for pedestrian or motorcycles. Now here I am squeezing around corners with this SUV, and Milagros constantly reassuring me that it's okay. In fact, that is a phrase she repeats alot."okayyyyy" She is very funny. Her house consists of two 8 by 10 rooms. They are side by side, and you have to enter each by going outside to that door. One room is her bedroom, and the other room is her kitchen. Only enough room for the basics.
There is trash and debri all over the place in the neighborhood, rocks, gravel, shacks to the left, shacks to the right. People all over the place walking about. Dozens and dozens of children nearby playing, enjoying themselves. Every one basically appearing content. I sat in the kitchen while she cooked. Her fridge was nearly empty, and it wasnt chilled, nor was the icebox frozen. She had electricity, but maybe it must have recently came back on? They can't keep food, so they barely stock their fridges with anything.
She cooked a nice fish meal with fries and salad. Even gave me some food to take back with me. The lady lives a very poor lifestyle, but to see her on the beach, you wouldn't know it. She is always well groomed and clean when you see her on the beach. Always pleasant and personable. Of all the times she stopped to chat on the beach, she never accepted an offer to eat. She only accepted a beverage. And for certain individuals, neither of us assumed that me buying her a drink or her accepting a drink meant I wanted sexual business with her.
Shows the error of trying to treat these girls like girlfriends on first acquaintance, when very likely the guy does not have enough Spanish to be able to really read her character. He probably thought that if he didn't treat her like a hooker then she would respect him for that.
My experience is that you have to treat them like dogs. I love dogs to death, but you must establish complete dominance before you give them any liberties, always give clear and unambiguous signals, and make sure that they are 100% loyal to you before you give them any liberties, otherwise they will try to take the lead, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the furniture, etc. You do not give a dog your iPad to play with, or it will be Skyping other dogs and spreading rebellion.Once again I think your analysis is somewhat flawed. When did you start thinking in this guys example, that he was treating the woman like a girlfriend? Offering food and drink to her? Letting her use his Ipad? Having her around for a few hours? Are those the examples indicating he was treating her like a girlfriend? How about he was simply treating her like another human being?
What you are right about, he does not know enough spanish. He didn't know how to read her character. He didn't know the many ways a chica can get over on him through his ignorance. He may have thought like you said, that if he didn't treat her like a hooker, she would respect him for that. But that isn't a bad thing. Many mongers report feeling they had a better experience with a chica when they simply treated them with respect. Now what is treating a woman like a hooker mean to you? Basically if you pay a woman for sex, you are treating her like a hooker. So there is no getting around that.
The point is. Treating a woman with respect, or interacting with them as with any other regular woman does not mean someone is treating someone like a girlfriend. And if you do things above and beyond p4p, as long as you paid the girl for sex, you just treated her like a hooker. Get it? It just so happened that he treated this woman in a way she didn't deserve to be treated. And thats where I agree with you. You don't necessarily have to be too accommodating to a hooker, especially when there are so many other red flags indicating she is unworthy and unappreciative. And especially since nothing he did lead to a better performance. And I do agree strongly that it is best to establish dominance with many of these women or else they will take acts of kindness for weakness. But again I think that can be gauged on a case by case, woman by woman basis. Some require more or less of whatever is necessary.
Mind you some men report when they did interact with chicas, treated them like an individual, the sex and experience was well worth the effort. Thats why they call it GFE. Girlfriend experience. It's just an experience, not a reality. My buddy just bestowed his efforts with the wrong individual, and she exploited it or responded accordingly, but unfavorably. However that doesn't mean all chicas should be treated the same. Thats what makes this hobby interesting, all chicas don't have to be treated the same. My buddy just needs more time in the game. Learn more spanish. Experience the good, bad and ugly, and learn some things from others.
Once again I think your analysis is somewhat flawed. When did you start thinking in this guys example, that he was treating the woman like a girlfriend? Offering food and drink to her? Letting her use his Ipad? Having her around for a few hours? Are those the examples indicating he was treating her like a girlfriend? How about he was simply treating her like another human being?Well it depends on what he wanted. If he wanted her to hang around for hours and not have sex, then he got exactly what he wanted. I am all for treating them nicely if I enjoy their company, but I would probably want the sex first and enjoy their company afterwards.
Read between the lines a little. Why is it so cheap here?
Unless you have a little hardcore in you or enjoy this type of challenge just for sex then this is not the place for you.
Unless you're like Frannie who (for some reason) has consigned himself to life in a place where he has to 'treat them like dogs' or Pooter who appears to have the time and patience to time the waves so as not to get knocked down or WRX who lets it all roll off like water off a duck then you're going to find yourself working very, very hard for a little tail because you have to have to be 'on it' 24/7 here and that's not a vacation by most standards.
And remember, these guys live here and they're telling you its not easy! You don't even know what you don't know.
Better, even if you don't have much money, to save up and hit Aruba or even better Curacao. No crime, no drama. Just umbrella drinks on a white sandy beach and all the tail you need. Real police on duty, no scams and only minor language issues.
Just not for pennies like the DR.
Reading stuff like this makes me really concerned about Sosua and is a big turn off. Buy the girl a drink in Brazil (excluding Rio and I avoid Rio totally) , or some other Latin countries and they are usually nice and warm towards you, even if it is a place where they do not get a kickback from the drink. This kind of violent behavior is what concerns me about Sosua, that a very large percentage are hardcore! Do most have pimps? Percentage-wise is this libel. A 1 in 4 thing? My first time to DR for vacation is next month and I am quite apprehensive about Sosua. But have already booked 7 nights at Casa Cayena?
The Mind Bender
10-17-13, 15:59
I agree with Frannie.
While the term "treat them like dogs" comes off overly harsh, it's important to understand that you're in a 3rd world country and these women are searching for any weakness to exploit. You can be firm on the front end then soften up once they've earned it but if you start out "weak" they'll begin taking liberties. (like not giving you oral) and you could end up being scammed or in jail. Women will prey on your good naturedness if you don't set your boundaries early. I'll happily offer my lady a drink, a snack or a quick game of fruit ninja AFTER she's taken care of my needs, never before. I don't accept tardiness, laziness or rudeness from the women I deal with.
I agree with Frannie.
While the term "treat them like dogs" comes off overly harsh, it's important to understand that you're in a 3rd world country and these women are searching for any weakness to exploit. You can be firm on the front end then soften up once they've earned it but if you start out "weak" they'll begin taking liberties. (like not giving you oral) and you could end up being scammed or in jail. Women will prey on your good naturedness if you don't set your boundaries early. I'll happily offer my lady a drink, a snack or a quick game of fruit ninja AFTER she's taken care of my needs, never before. I don't accept tardiness, laziness or rudeness from the women I deal with."You can be firm on the front end then soften up once they've earned it but if you start out "weak" they'll begin taking liberties." I agree, but I wouldn't generalize all women (They'll begin to take liberties ). I attribute that behavior mainly to whom it applies to. Thats why I think men need to be a better judge of character, and more importantly, honest with themselves in terms of what is motivating them, and the impact or result of ones actions with that particular individual. In other words, caution is always a good idea. It's just that a one size fits all response is not necessary or warranted. (thats not saying you or Frannie are advocating that, I'm just including that perspective ).
Got a question. You mentioned you don't accept tardiness, laziness or rudeness from women. So when a woman is lets say tardy, is she done for good, or getting another chance? Most of these chicas are always late, even after you confront them. So it would seem to me, the only recourse if one doesn't accept tardiness is to dismiss that chica and get another one, and have to do the same with her, dismiss her too.
El Lobo Solo
10-17-13, 16:57
I agree with Frannie.
While the term "treat them like dogs" comes off overly harsh, it's important to understand that you're in a 3rd world country and these women are searching for any weakness to exploit. You can be firm on the front end then soften up once they've earned it but if you start out "weak" they'll begin taking liberties. (like not giving you oral) and you could end up being scammed or in jail. Women will prey on your good naturedness if you don't set your boundaries early. I'll happily offer my lady a drink, a snack or a quick game of fruit ninja AFTER she's taken care of my needs, never before. I don't accept tardiness, laziness or rudeness from the women I deal with.I have never treated anyone like a dog in my life and I don't intend to begin. There are predators of every stripe everywhere in the world, not just in the 3rd world. We in the developed world pretend to be polite, but that is only because we are so comfortable in our wealth.
I have been robbed by professional women, but I have also been loved by professional women. I'm a nice guy but if you push me in the corner you better be ready to deal with maximum consequences because I won't hesitate to do what I think is necessary to protect myself. If that means permanent damage to the aggressor, too bad.
Sure these people, men and women, are often desperate. Hello! Do you think many of these women enjoy their situation? Dream on or continue fooling yourself. So yes, you need to be on your double guard.
But if you choose to go over to the other side of the balance and become an oppressor, that is a choice you are making. Pay attention to local norms, try to understand where the local perspective is grounded, and you will eliminate a lot of potential problems before they start.
But if you secretly enjoy being a slave master, hey, don't blame the slave for trying to get back some of his / her own.
And to make it doubly clear, I am making general comments here, based on the ongoing conversation. My comments are not directed to any of the current speakers. They are directed to all of the readers.
BTW, I initially took Frannies' comment about treating them like dogs to be an analogy towards training dogs, not that he actually thinks of them like lower animals. But he doesn't need my interpretation of his remarks.
Well it depends on what he wanted. If he wanted her to hang around for hours and not have sex, then he got exactly what he wanted. I am all for treating them nicely if I enjoy their company, but I would probably want the sex first and enjoy their company afterwards.That response didn't answer my questions, but I guess I should have expected that.
The Mind Bender
10-17-13, 17:56
"you can be firm on the front end then soften up once they've earned it but if you start out "weak" they'll begin taking liberties." i agree, but i wouldn't generalize all women (they'll begin to take liberties ). i attribute that behavior mainly to whom it applies to. thats why i think men need to be a better judge of character, and more importantly, honest with themselves in terms of what is motivating them, and the impact or result of ones actions with that particular individual. in other words, caution is always a good idea. it's just that a one size fits all response is not necessary or warranted. (thats not saying you or frannie are advocating that, i'm just including that perspective ).
got a question. you mentioned you don't accept tardiness, laziness or rudeness from women. so when a woman is lets say tardy, is she done for good, or getting another chance? most of these chicas are always late, even after you confront them. so it would seem to me, the only recourse if one doesn't accept tardiness is to dismiss that chica and get another one, and have to do the same with her, dismiss her too.well i would generalize all women and people for that matter. it's human nature to take advantage of perceived weakness, now the speed and extent of which would depend on the individual's personality but ultimately she will try to get over on you if you're too "soft" too soon.
answer: she may get another chance (depends on how good the sex / gfe is) but i'll give chicas at most a 20 minute grace period (without a phone call) until i start looking for someone else to occupy my time. it's sosua and there's too many females parading around for me to be sitting on my hands waiting.
A chica I know from Sousa (a hardcore pro) just sent me a photo of her in the airport on her way to the US! Says she has a boyfriend now. I guess some dreams do come true! Hope it all works out. Tend ta doubt it but good luck!
well i would generalize all women and people for that matter. it's human nature to take advantage of perceived weakness, now the speed and extent of which would depend on the individual's personality but ultimately she will try to get over on you if you're too "soft" too soon.
answer: she may get another chance (depends on how good the sex / gfe is) but i'll give chicas at most a 20 minute grace period (without a phone call) until i start looking for someone else to occupy my time. it's sosua and there's too many females parading around for me to be sitting on my hands waiting.my novia was late for the first meeting, about an hour. i was at my hotel ready to leave for dinner with friends, i left an envelope with cab fare and instructions with the front desk, when i realized she was actually right behind me (she was all dolled up, worth the wait). she saw how upset i was and the next time she was about 1/2 hour early.
we've been together for about 5 years now and she realizes my point of view and is no longer on "dominican" time when it comes to me. she tells people i am "demasiado puntual". i value my time and in turn, other people's time.
3 hours is ridiculous, i would have left her cab fare and sent her home. don't set a precedent, don't put up with the "dominican" mentality.
Manizales911
10-17-13, 19:47
A chica I know from Sousa (a hardcore pro) just sent me a photo of her in the airport on her way to the US! Says she has a boyfriend now. I guess some dreams do come true! Hope it all works out. Tend ta doubt it but good luck!Does her name begin with an "S" by chance?
Unless you're like Frannie who (for some reason) has consigned himself to life in a place where he has to 'treat them like dogs' or Pooter who appears to have the time and patience to time the waves so as not to get knocked down or WRX who lets it all roll off like water off a duck then you're going to find yourself working very, very hard for a little tail because you have to have to be 'on it' 24/7 here and that's not a vacation by most standards.People fall into two classes, those who love dogs and those who don't. I love dogs, but when you are training them they have to first learn who is in charge before they are ready to learn. Once that is established they do fine. However if you don't show them who is in charge, then they get ideas above their station and think that they must be in charge.
It is the same with these chicas. You just have to be confident, unambiguous and in charge and you will do fine. It is not rocket science. You don't have to beat them with a stick, just make it clear that you mean what you say and say what you mean.
Lateness is a good example. If you hang around for hours waiting for them if they are late, then they will do it every time. No, give them sufficient time to allow for contingencies, then make other plans.
Mr Enternational
10-17-13, 20:15
People fall into two classes, those who love dogs and those who don't. I love dogs, but when you are training them they have to first learn who is in charge before they are ready to learn. Once that is established they do fine. However if you don't show them who is in charge, then they get ideas above their station and think that they must be in charge.
It is the same with these chicas. You just have to be confident, unambiguous and in charge and you will do fine. It is not rocket science. You don't have to beat them with a stick, just make it clear that you mean what you say and say what you mean.I don't like dogs, but I have no problem showing them who the fucking boss is. I don't argue and I don't fight. I'm like the dog whisperer. Just relax and let them run around and tire themselves out; then I tell them how it is going to be. A long time ago my cousin told me that you don't know if a woman really loves you until you have made her cry. Now it seems like every week some woman is telling me I made them cry and sending a picture to prove it. Funny thing is that I never do anything. I just stay busy so to them it is like I am ignoring them. So I guess they are training their damn selves. From this cop in Brazil:
Bom vou deixar bem claro as coisas:
1- Adorei conhecer vc;
2- Me arrependi de não *** conhecido vc antes;
3- Vc foi Lindo trazendo champanhe e morangos; (eu andão esperava)
4- Adorei os presentes q me deu;
5- Adorei cada minuto com vc e realmente queria repetir tudo novamente;
6- Estava planejando passar o Natal com vc em Atlanta e cheguei a comentar com vc sobre as passagens;
7- Vc se tornou mas especial ainda do que ja era, em minha vida;
So estou esclarecendo as coisas pelo ocorrido de manha, ja pedi desculpas mas. Ok. Adorei cada pedacinho de seu corpo mas vou deixar vc livre, de *** q sair do MSN ou Skype qdo eu entrar ok. Entrarei sim mas Nao mas para falar com vc. So lembre de uma unica coisa VOCÊ ME SURPREENDEU them TUDO. Foi bom *** vc, felicidades.
...and 8 hours later before I have had a chance to say shit it's "my sister told me you were not shit like all other men. I should have listened, bla, bla bla..."
Bom dia esqueci de falar que MINHA IRMA tinha me avisado que vc faria isso. Ja que veio iria pisar em mim isso e normal em HOMEN como vc do mundo. Eu realmente pensei q vc seria diferente em tudo. Sei que vou sentir falta suas como ja estou sentindo mas.
...then 4 hours after that, before I still have not said one word yet it's...
Vc me desculpou. Somos bons amigos andé. Detesto discutir com vc. Coloquei uma foto sua como protetor de tela no meu computador.
well i would generalize all women and people for that matter. it's human nature to take advantage of perceived weakness, now the speed and extent of which would depend on the individual's personality but ultimately she will try to get over on you if you're too "soft" too soon.
answer: she may get another chance (depends on how good the sex / gfe is) but i'll give chicas at most a 20 minute grace period (without a phone call) until i start looking for someone else to occupy my time. it's sosua and there's too many females parading around for me to be sitting on my hands waiting.i was having this discussion with some amigos. my take or solution was to give the chica a time frame window. it could be 15 or 30 min. i will let them know that if i do not hear from them, then they don't need to come. in some cases, i won't give them any warning, just leave to do plan b. if i have a chica who is wise and considerate to call to keep me informed of her progress in transit, i may cut her some slack.
Tempoecorto
10-17-13, 20:50
BTW, I initially took Frannies' comment about treating them like dogs to be an analogy towards training dogs, not that he actually thinks of them like lower animals. But he doesn't need my interpretation of his remarks.I guess you know Frannie (perhaps even personally) because of which you commented as above. Indeed, his analogy to dogs was entirely figurative. What prompted me to comment on yours is that it came from a "Lobo". Who by definition knows all about hierarchy. LOL.
Indeed we all agree, tardiness is a general problem in the DR as it is a cultural norm. We who are used to seeing it as synonymous to respecting others, take it harder, when we visit third world countries. This last trip in September, I had a situation when the girl was over 30 minutes late, in a taxi to be paid for by me, apparently because of a thundershower in her neck of the woods. After waiting for some time, I texted her back saying I was canceling the appointment. Well, it was her who had more to lose so the usual wrangling of "please, will not happen again" began. Indeed, it was better next time. But, other than this thing of late show up which I must admit still gets my goat, despite all the yoga, I have had no other issues of people treating me shabbily (barring of course sometime developing cold feet). These are women (and of course not being a pro helps) who treated with kindness, tend to reciprocate like all other human beings.
My novia was late for the first meeting, about an hour. I was at my hotel ready to leave for dinner with friends, I left an envelope with cab fare and instructions with the front desk, when I realized she was actually right behind me (she was all dolled up, worth the wait). She saw how upset I was and the next time she was about 1/2 hour early.
We've been together for about 5 years now and she realizes my point of view and is no longer on "dominican" time when it comes to me. She tells people I am "demasiado puntual". I value my time and in turn, other people's time.
3 hours is ridiculous, I would have left her cab fare and sent her home. Don't set a precedent, don't put up with the "dominican" mentality.The question that keeps popping up in my mind, is why arent chicas wise enough to just pick up the phone and call the person they intend to meet, to ask for more time, or just a FYI call. That right there could go a long way if they need more time. Im talking about chicas a guy has a personal relationship with. Not necessarily some chica out on the prowl, who is open for business 24/7.
Tempoecorto
10-17-13, 21:30
I assume the "obvious reasons" are that Brazil and DR are notorious for prostitution? I would be interested in the reasons you gave for going to Haiti. Charity work?Haha! I seriously cracked up with your last bit. Charles Pooter!
The question that keeps popping up in my mind, is why arent chicas wise enough to just pick up the phone and call the person they intend to meet, to ask for more time, or just a FYI call. That right there could go a long way if they need more time. Im talking about chicas a guy has a personal relationship with. Not necessarily some chica out on the prowl, who is open for business 24/7.1. They don't have enough minutes on their phone.
2. They are up to something they don't want you to know about.
3. They don't care.
4. They don't expect you to be on the edge of your seat waiting for them.
5. They are poor time managers and forget that they have other commitments such as kids, family to take care of.
6. They are just dumb.
7. They have no history of regular employment or adherence to schedules other than school where they probably didn't show up half the time or were often late.
7. Any combination of all of the above.
1. They don't have enough minutes on their phone.
2. They are up to something they don't want you to know about.
3. They don't care.
4. They don't expect you to be on the edge of your seat waiting for them.
5. They are poor time managers and forget that they have other commitments such as kids, family to take care of.
6. They are just dumb.
7. They have no history of regular employment or adherence to schedules other than school where they probably didn't show up half the time or were often late.
7. Any combination of all of the above.My question was mostly rhetorical. And you responded with answers? Interesting. Now if you would only put this much effort into responding to direct questions posed to you, instead of selective deflection / avoidance, that would be quite a change and accompkishment.
People fall into two classesI disagree but no matter.
Don't apologize for me. But for an inartful or injudicious choice of metaphor I have no criticism. Treat 'them how you like. You're the one who has live to there.
My point was simply that many of our 'brothers' I believe, read into these posts that like the foreign myth of 'American streets being paved with gold', Sosua is the six flags of the North American sex world. And that by simply being American, however socially inept, entitles them some natural immunity to harm wherever they go.
And the fact that almost every negative experience related on these threads gets force fed back to the poster nine fold with some form of superior, condescending analysis discourages most negative truths and consequently presents an unbalanced picture.
And that's all from me about that so caveat emptor and buena suerte!
I guess you know Frannie (perhaps even personally) because of which you commented as above. Indeed, his analogy to dogs was entirely figurative. What prompted me to comment on yours is that it came from a "Lobo". Who by definition knows all about hierarchy. LOL.A lobo solo, though, is a lone wolf, so perhaps the sole survivor of the pack, or an outcast. Not top dog, anyway, but no-one's ***** either.
Yes, of course the dog analogy is figurative. Use the same simple and consistent tactics you would use to train a dog to act how you want, and avoid ambiguous body language and mixed messages.
Tempoecorto
10-18-13, 20:03
3- Vc foi Lindo trazendo champanhe e morangos; (eu andão esperava)
4- Adorei os presentes q me deu;
5- Adorei cada minuto com vc e realmente queria repetir tudo novamente;
6- Estava planejando passar o Natal com vc them Atlanta e cheguei a comentar com vc sobre as passagens; I thought you were a cheapskate. She had champagne with you and speaking of Christmas vacation with you in Atlanta? She paid for all that? LOL. Just kidding! It was a nice mail clarifying who the king of the hill is.
I also learned that Irma in Portuguese means sister. The closest I came to an Irma was in France (and then of course the movie Irma la douce!) but never thought it meant anything else in some other language. Hmm!
El Lobo Solo
10-19-13, 04:24
A lobo solo, though, is a lone wolf, so perhaps the sole survivor of the pack, or an outcast. Not top dog, anyway, but no-one's ***** either.But too damn contrary to get along for any length of time with hardly anyone. I try to be nice, but I've got too many sharp edges. LOL.
And as far as I know, I don't know anyone who posts here personally.
A chica I know from Sousa (a hardcore pro) just sent me a photo of her in the airport on her way to the US! Says she has a boyfriend now. I guess some dreams do come true! Hope it all works out. Tend ta doubt it but good luck!
The cases I know personally they never worked out in fact every case the guy went through complete hell with these girls.
The Mind Bender
10-19-13, 21:48
Does anyone use Dulche Secreto rooms? I'm think since I'll be staying a little far from the main strip I could take my short time girls there
ReadyToGetOnIt
10-19-13, 22:26
Does anyone use Dulche Secreto rooms? I'm think since I'll be staying a little far from the main strip I could take my short time girls thereWould someone please set me straight? Do you need a car to use Dulche Secreto or not? All of my RTFF makes references to "driving in" and going through a turnstyle. I won't have a car, but had given thought to trying it out if I could figure out the details.
Thanks in advance.
ReadyToGetOnIt
10-19-13, 22:28
A chica I know from Sousa (a hardcore pro) just sent me a photo of her in the airport on her way to the US! Says she has a boyfriend now. I guess some dreams do come true! Hope it all works out. Tend ta doubt it but good luck!
The cases I know personally they never worked out in fact every case the guy went through complete hell with these girls.A girl I have in my phone on Whatsapp changed her profile picture to one with her in front of the airport terminal a couple of days ago. Better pack it in, Sosua is drying up and the locals are bailing out! JK.
Manizales911
10-19-13, 22:45
The cases I know personally they never worked out in fact every case the guy went through complete hell with these girls.In most cases they don't work out but I personally know two former Blackbeard's girls now living in the USA with their children and new husbands and seem very happy, both of them have been in the USA for a couple years. One of the girls lives not too far from me and I have gone to dinner with her and her husband, they seem very happy. I know a gorgeous "non-pro" from Puerto Plata, a real gold digger, that just arrived in NYC a few months ago with her daughter, her wedding is scheduled for December. I would be shocked if that one lasted, I spent three days with her and she was asking me for all kinds of shit.
Does anyone use Dulche Secreto rooms? I'm think since I'll be staying a little far from the main strip I could take my short time girls thereI have never stayed there, but how can you go wrong with an RD500 room for ST?
Not fancy like Santiago Cabanas, but clean.
***I stole this picture!
Does anyone use Dulche Secreto rooms? I'm think since I'll be staying a little far from the main strip I could take my short time girls thereSi Senor. I've used Dulce Secreto quite a few times. I used the cabana 3 times this last trip. 2 were back to back in less than 30 minutes after the 1st visit. I got with a sweet Haitian chica walking with her cousin on Pedro Clisante near El Colibri. Took her to Dulce Secreto because she didn't have her passport on her person. My hotel wouldn't have let her in, unless I greased the security guard. I decided I'd rather pay at a cabana than go through the hassle. Plus I might not have wanted her to know where I'm staying. The Haitian chica was a little too shy and too dry. So I paid her something, but took her back where I found her. Then sought out another chica.
When I went back, I drive my car into the same standard garage that I had just left from 20 minutes ago. Which was $590 pesos for 4 hours. The second time I ordered a drink for the chica. However, you can easily bring food and beverage with you. I usually leave a 50 peso tip in the pay basket they provide to you. The way it works. You drive into the complex, you don't have to talk to anybody at the front gate. Just drive straight in, and find an open garage door. If you don't want the unit with a jacuzzi (executive unit) for $690 pesos for 4 hours, pull into the Standard unit for $590 pesos for 4 hours.
I have previously tried the one with the Jacuzzi. It's nice, especially if you are into spooning and cupcaking with a chica. The drawbacks of the jacuzzi, is that it takes an awful long time to fill the tub. The water is barely hot. Plus you have to make sure it is clean and ready for use. You don't want to fill the tub only to find out they didn't do a good job cleaning it. It ends up being a waste of time and mood killer if you have those problems. The standard is just fine for getting the job done and rolling out.
They have a-c and a fan next to the bed. Flat screen TV, a small table to eat, and some sex apparatus you can use to post up with a chick (useless or unnecessary IMO ). They provide 2 condoms, 2 large towels, maybe one small face cloth, feminine hygiene wash in a packet, 2 pieces of candy, one or two small bars of soap.
If your spanish is not good, tell the chica to answer the phone and tell them how long you want to stay. Most dudes only need 4 horas, for $590. 2 minutes after you hang up, a doorbell will sound. That means your bill is in the revolving door. You pay, and they give you a remote for the tv. At the time of the call, you can order food and beverages if you choose, and that will be on the bill. Or you can order it afterwards, and they will ring you when it is in the revolving door. When your time is up, ( if you havent already left ) they will call you to find out if you want to pay for more time.
After you leave and drive toward the exit, the exit garage door remains closed until your unit is checked for damage, theft, or worse (like taking the remote or breaking something, or somebody left in their hurt / killed ect ). If everything is good, they radio to security to open the garage door and you are free to leave.
I have taken a cab to Dulce Secreto as well. The cab will pull into the unit you choose. You and the chica get out while inside the garage. He backs up and out, and leaves. You can call the same cab back if you want to be picked up after you are done. I suggest that the cab be called before your time is up at the cabana. Just be dressed and ready to go when you place the call. Almost forgot. I have also drove a scooter to a cabana as well. Everything else is the same.
Charles Pooter
10-19-13, 23:53
Thanks Wrx2005. Useful walkthru for newbies.
Thanks Wrx2005. Useful walkthru for newbies.your Welcome!
The Mind Bender
10-20-13, 00:39
Si Senor. I've used Dulce Secreto quite a few times.Good info gracias! I'll probably be taking a moto there so hopefully that's not an issue.
I wouldn't mind trying the Jacuzzi but it really depends on the chica's personality and how much I'm into her.
Does anyone know a safe area / neighborhood where one can park their vehicle without worrying about it being towed away, alternate side of the street, or other parking offenses? I tend to fly out of JFK airport, and have been using long term parking facilities for my vehicle. A 2 week trip away, the parking cost can be over $200. If I found a safe, legal parking spot in a neighborhood. I could save that money to use for something else.
Does anyone know a safe area / neighborhood where one can park their vehicle without worrying about it being towed away, alternate side of the street, or other parking offenses? I tend to fly out of JFK airport, and have been using long term parking facilities for my vehicle. A 2 week trip away, the parking cost can be over $200. If I found a safe, legal parking spot in a neighborhood. I could save that money to use for something else.It is not a good idea to leave your car on a residential street in NYC. I do not know where you live but if you can get to a Long Island Railroad station there is free parking there. After you park take the train to Jamaicastation and air train to terminal. Only issue is you need to co ordinate the train timings on LIRR.
Alternately you can call the hotels near JFK and negotiate with them parking rate for 2 weeks. They do have free shuttles to the airport. Also there are other off airport sites where you can park and they have free ride.
To terminal.
Manizales911
10-20-13, 17:27
Does anyone know a safe area / neighborhood where one can park their vehicle without worrying about it being towed away, alternate side of the street, or other parking offenses? I tend to fly out of JFK airport, and have been using long term parking facilities for my vehicle. A 2 week trip away, the parking cost can be over $200. If I found a safe, legal parking spot in a neighborhood. I could save that money to use for something else.I use this guy: http://www.yelp.com/biz/c-and-d-cheap-jfk-long-term-parking-springfield-gardens
Si Senor. I've used Dulce Secreto quite a few times. I used the cabana 3 times this last trip. 2 were back to back in less than 30 minutes after the 1st visit. I got with a sweet Haitian chica walking with her cousin on Pedro Clisante near El Colibri. Took her to Dulce Secreto because she didn't have her passport on her person. My hotel wouldn't have let her in, unless I greased the security guard. I decided I'd rather pay at a cabana than go through the hassle. Plus I might not have wanted her to know where I'm staying. The Haitian chica was a little too shy and too dry. So I paid her something, but took her back where I found her. Then sought out another chica.
When I went back, I drive my car into the same standard garage that I had just left from 20 minutes ago. Which was $590 pesos for 4 hours. The second time I ordered a drink for the chica. However, you can easily bring food and beverage with you. I usually leave a 50 peso tip in the pay basket they provide to you. The way it works. You drive into the complex, you don't have to talk to anybody at the front gate. Just drive straight in, and find an open garage door. If you don't want the unit with a jacuzzi (executive unit) for $690 pesos for 4 hours, pull into the Standard unit for $590 pesos for 4 hours.
I have previously tried the one with the Jacuzzi. It's nice, especially if you are into spooning and cupcaking with a chica. The drawbacks of the jacuzzi, is that it takes an awful long time to fill the tub. The water is barely hot. Plus you have to make sure it is clean and ready for use. You don't want to fill the tub only to find out they didn't do a good job cleaning it. It ends up being a waste of time and mood killer if you have those problems. The standard is just fine for getting the job done and rolling out.
They have a-see and a fan next to the bed. Flat screen TV, a small table to eat, and some sex apparatus you can use to post up with a chick (useless or unnecessary IMO ). They provide 2 condoms. 2 large towels, maybe one small face cloth, feminine hygiene wash in a packet. 2 pieces of candy, one or two small bars of soap.
If your spanish is not good, tell the chica to answer the phone and tell them how long you want to stay. Most dudes only need 4 horas, for $590. 2 minutes after you hang up, a doorbell will sound. That means your bill is in the revolving door. You pay, and they give you a remote for the tv. At the time of the call, you can order food and beverages if you choose, and that will be on the bill. Or you can order it afterwards, and they will ring you when it is in the revolving door. When your time is up, (if you haven't already left) they will call you to find out if you want to pay for more time.
After you leave and drive toward the exit, the exit garage door remains closed until your unit is checked for damage, theft, or worse (like taking the remote or breaking something, or somebody left in their hurt / killed ect ). If everything is good, they radio to security to open the garage door and you are free to leave.I have been to the Dulce Secreto and several of times I did not use the entire 4 hours that I had paid for and was wondering if I could exit and then come back with a different chica to the same room and finish the time out. I always assumed that when the guy's came and checked the room and let you out the gate that the room ended.
If you can return please tell me who I need to notify and what I need to tell them.
I will be staying in BB for a few days in the beginning of November, then spending a few days with the main girl I play with. I have a couple days free and will be checking out Sosua for my first time. I have read some of the reviews here and found a lot of stuff to do, so I am asking some of you more experienced guys if there is anything I should be sure and hit since I am only there for a short time?
A chica I know from Sousa (a hardcore pro) just sent me a photo of her in the airport on her way to the US! Says she has a boyfriend now. I guess some dreams do come true! Hope it all works out. Tend ta doubt it but good luck!Doesn't surprise me. A brotha I met from DC in Sosua told me his boy married a puta this summer that he had referred him to after he hit it. Now the newly wed is sending his new wife Western Union while he prepares to bring her to the states. The guy told me it was kind of weird going to their wedding in Punta Cana knowing that at least 3 guys there had stroked the bride to be.
I will be staying in BB for a few days in the beginning of November, then spending a few days with the main girl I play with. I have a couple days free and will be checking out Sosua for my first time. I have read some of the reviews here and found a lot of stuff to do, so I am asking some of you more experienced guys if there is anything I should be sure and hit since I am only there for a short time?The main beach, the chica bars on Calle Pedro Clissante and that is about it. The restaurants you can see for yourself and decide what to eat. You could go to the CMP night club if you want to see a brothel / bar in action. The ice cream place at the gas station. The Supermercado Playero on the main highway. Cafe Tropical for lunch Dominican style. The ATMs at Playero Supermarket for $1000 and $200 peso bills, or Banco Popular for $500 and $100 bills. The Internet cafe opposite Banco Popular. Belkis salon for massage that never ends sadly. Latino Minimarket for supercheap generic Viagra and Cialis. You can also buy cheap beer there and sit outside and drink it. La Planchera restaurant for good food at very reasonable price. New Cafe for a great breakfast. Dentist opposite Playero Minimarket.
The main beach, the chica bars on Calle Pedro Clissante and that is about it. The restaurants you can see for yourself and decide what to eat. You could go to the CMP night club if you want to see a brothel / bar in action. The ice cream place at the gas station. The Supermercado Playero on the main highway. Cafe Tropical for lunch Dominican style. The ATMs at Playero Supermarket for $1000 and $200 peso bills, or Banco Popular for $500 and $100 bills. The Internet cafe opposite Banco Popular. Belkis salon for massage that never ends sadly. Latino Minimarket for supercheap generic Viagra and Cialis. You can also buy cheap beer there and sit outside and drink it. La Planchera restaurant for good food at very reasonable price. New Cafe for a great breakfast. Dentist opposite Playero Minimarket.Doesn't sound like much, but actually Sosua is a really picturesque and interesting place, best seen between 7:30 and 9:00 in the morning before it gets too hot, when you can wander around and see all kinds of interesting things as people go about their daily business. Of course many people just come for the girls and maybe the beach and miss out on this aspect, but if you do want to get to know Sosua, it is there to be discovered.
I have been to the Dulce Secreto and several of times I did not use the entire 4 hours that I had paid for and was wondering if I could exit and then come back with a different chica to the same room and finish the time out. I always assumed that when the guy's came and checked the room and let you out the gate that the room ended.
If you can return please tell me who I need to notify and what I need to tell them.I do not know their policy off hand, but I wouldn't think you could leave and come back to the same room to finish out your 4 hours. Here's why? Typically when a guest leaves, they take the time to clean the room for the next guest. If your intent is to leave the spot, come back with another one, you have put that unit on hold when it could be occupied?
Imagine if every customer wanted that consideration? Getting an available unit could be a problem. Suppose you leave and don't come back for whatever reason, now they have a unit on hold just for you? Meanwhile other guests may need a spot? Seems highly unlikely that they would go for a guest leaving and coming back within the 4 hours. It does make sense as far as the customer saving money, but not necessarily practical or good business for DS. Remember? $590 pesos is only $14 US dollars. It's not a lot of money. If you go twice were only talking about $28 dollars for 8 hours. Thats pretty reasonable, IMO.
One thing might work. Is have the 1st chica leave on her own. Call a taxi, whatever. And if you know who the other chica is, have her come to Dulce Secreto to meet you at your unit to finish out your time. Just to reiterate I do not know their policy in terms of leaving and coming back to finish out the time.
Would someone please set me straight? Do you need a car to use Dulche Secreto or not? All of my RTFF makes references to "driving in" and going through a turnstyle. I won't have a car, but had given thought to trying it out if I could figure out the details.
Thanks in advance.I don't see why one would need a car? Just have you and the chica walk up like people do at bank drive-thru's or ATM's. Walk in, and go straight to an open garage. I guarantee the security won't even pay attention to the fact that you didn't come in a car. Plus you give them someone nice to look at.
However, I warn you. If you and the chica walk in, don't back up after you enter. They have some tire spikes there at the entrance that would do some serious damage to a chicas high heels or your sandals / sneakers. Also, if you want to amuse security, walk in with your hands up looking like you are driving in. I'm sure they will get a kick out of that.
After your done and you proceed to the exit, the two of you might be standing there looking like silly rabbits waiting for the exit garage door to open so ya'll can walk out together. Man, Go Ahead and Have fun. Mode of transportation is not important. Them getting the pesos is.
I use this guy:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/c-and-d-cheap-jfk-long-term-parking-springfield-gardensThanks Manizales. In the link there is a promotion of $350 reduced down to $285. I called to ask what did that price represent. He said that was for a month. I'll have to sort this out. I asked on the phone what the daily rate was, he said $10 a day. That is a good rate. The last few trips I have been using Park Plus on South Conduit Ave. On their website, it's $10 a day. Just make sure you click on the right link, because they show a $14. 95 a day price and the $10 a day price. It would be foolish for anyone to click on the higher price link instead of the lower price link ($10 ). Your guy and Park Plus both seem like great options. I was just thinking of finding a much cheaper or costless option. Again thanks for the link. That could very well be a back up solution.
It is not a good idea to leave your car on a residential street in NYC. I do not know where you live but if you can get to a Long Island Railroad station there is free parking there. After you park take the train to Jamaicastation and air train to terminal. Only issue is you need to co ordinate the train timings on LIRR.
Alternately you can call the hotels near JFK and negotiate with them parking rate for 2 weeks. They do have free shuttles to the airport. Also there are other off airport sites where you can park and they have free ride.
To terminal.You are the 2nd person to offer that warning. And I agree, it is not a good idea to park on a residential street. I have to admit, I'd constantly be worried about my car once I parked it on the street. The tip of using the LIRR free parking sounds interesting. I may decide to make a test run one day, and see how it goes. I intend to be away for 2 weeks on my next trip, whereas most of the Park and Fly hotels (I saw online) offered one nights stay, and 7 days parking. I only saw one Park and Fly with 2 weeks parking and one night stay, but the cost was over $200. I probably need to call theses hotels and speak directly to someone who can give me more information / options.
Park Plus wants $175 (that includes taxes / fees etc) for my 2 week parking stay. So far Park Plus is not looking so bad after all. Thank you for your suggestions. How did you find out about the LIRR free parking? I can imagine getting to JFK might be a breeze, but how do you manage doing the reverse? Leaving JFK to get back to your car? Coordinating with LIRR time schedules? Coming home extremely late etc?
Sure Thing
10-21-13, 16:51
A chica I know from Sousa (a hardcore pro) just sent me a photo of her in the airport on her way to the US! Says she has a boyfriend now. I guess some dreams do come true! Hope it all works out. Tend ta doubt it but good luck!
The cases I know personally they never worked out in fact every case the guy went through complete hell with these girls.These guys are who I call Grand Master Super Captain Save-a-whoe. These guys I believe should never get in to the hobby of mongering because they are such simps they believe that the GFE experience is real love. They probably read these boards too and listen to the homies but still believe that their chica or girl is one of a kind. It's been so many times I have been long stroking brides to be while their man is back home pampering them with WU money. You simps are probably reading right now and thinking not your girl because when I call she always answers. You are right she does, she'll be talking to you while sitting on top of a couple of inches. Guys marriage is a big step (I'm talking to you future Grandmaster Captain Save-a-whoes) why settle down with a woman who has been leasing the ass off at a regular bases? Unless you are staying there in the said country with the girl I would suggest not being the WU fiance. That is just Overtime pay for her trade.
Don't be Grandmaster Super Captain Save-a-whoe.
With all the negative press about CMP how can you recommend the place. Had the owner of rockys locked up and then last week double billed a guy for a session. No one who values their money or life should frequent the place. It is very clear that these guys will rip you a new one if you let them.
Doesn't sound like much, but actually Sosua is a really picturesque and interesting place, best seen between 7:30 and 9:00 in the morning before it gets too h.
Ot, when you can wander around and see all kinds of interesting things as people go about their daily business. Of course many people just come for the girls and maybe the beach and miss out on this aspect, but if you do want to get to know Sosua, it is there to be discovered.
With all the negative press about CMP how can you recommend the place. Had the owner of rockys locked up and then last week double billed a guy for a session. No one who values their money or life should frequent the place. It is very clear that these guys will rip you a new one if you let them.Didn't say I was recommending it, just that it is one of the tourist sights of Sosua. If you have never seen the inside of a brothel and you are interested, then there it is.
Charles Pooter
10-21-13, 19:18
Also, if you want to amuse security, walk in with your hands up looking like you are driving in. I'm sure they will get a kick out of that.Can we make "brrrrrrrrrrrrrm, brrrrrrrrrrrrrm" noises as well, and fart to simulate backfiring?
With all the negative press about CMP how can you recommend the place. Had the owner of rockys locked up and then last week double billed a guy for a session. No one who values their money or life should frequent the place. It is very clear that these guys will rip you a new one if you let them.I'm very surpised about this. Haven't been in Sosua the last half year, but I have lived many years in Sosua, and have been a regular at CMP for a long time. Never had a problem there, just endless good memories.
Can we make "brrrrrrrrrrrrrm, brrrrrrrrrrrrrm" noises as well, and fart to simulate backfiring?If it will get you in the complex, why not? You can even spill some chicken blood on the sheets, to make it look like the chica was on her period in your spot. That might have them ignore the fact you didn't come in a car.
With all the negative press about CMP how can you recommend the place. Had the owner of rockys locked up and then last week double billed a guy for a session. No one who values their money or life should frequent the place. It is very clear that these guys will rip you a new one if you let them.
In all due respect to my fellow posters I was at CMP when it first opened and have been there several times. If you have never been overcharged in CMP you have never been to CMP.
I recall when they first opened I could not literally walk down the street, past them, without someone there trying to stop me and pulling me into the club. I was concerned about ordering a drink for fear of being overcharged.
If you do not know your way about town, if money is no object, if you do not speak the language, and you want a safe environment (some people might even question this!) , than CMP is it.
I found the former Passions overpriced (and waited till Midnight or when the chicas were at the casino disco before picking them up) but the former Passions was much more reasonable, you knew what you were paying for, and it was safer for the average joe to enjoy himself, than CMP could ever be.
For the experience go to CMP once or twice but for action they are asking too much. Perhaps this is because I speak the language and can negotiate. I always look for bargains and CMP is not a bargain hunters paradise. You can always get less expensive action at the clubs (and later on in the night the same exact CMP action at a cheaper price at these very clubs). Go to CMP. You like a chica. Corner her. Get her digits and before you know it you can see her outside and don't get overcharged.
I have never had any problems in CMP yet I know a ripoff joint when I see it.
CMP is as much of a bargain as the singer Madonna is a 'Virgin for the Very First Time!"
I have never had any problems in CMP yet I know a ripoff joint when I see it.Good advice! I've had some great times in CMP but I've also heard about some niff nods having problems there, especially when they are drunk and / or high. I always stop in there to take a look, if for nothing else than to break up the monotony at the other end of the strip.
Go to CMP. You like a chica. Corner her. Get her digits and before you know it you can see her outside and don't get overcharged.Simple rules to follow that will save you money!
Can we make "brrrrrrrrrrrrrm, brrrrrrrrrrrrrm" noises as well, and fart to simulate backfiring?You can enter on foot or on a motoconcho and you can leave on foot. Why would this be a problem?
I always hear the chica's talking about they need money for there hair. I never thought much about it and did not really care if they got it fixed or not until I started calling my chica's for spur of the moment fucking that is when I really found out how much them getting there hair done does matter. Especially when they have long hair.
So guy's phone numbers are good to have but don't think that the girl's will be dressed and fixed to the 9's at all time's. If you want a fixed up chica you must get her while she is own the prowl. If you call her it is just like anywhere else. Most time's you have to wait on them to get ready or look at there fucked up hair doo while you fuck them and believe me they don't look near as good with a fucked up hair doo.
Is it better to sport fuck or to wife up. I do both things and enjoy it. I am planning a trip very soon. I have some ladies I have been talking to on skype. The anticipation is awesome and I think mutual. Whether for money sex or any thing else I believe the chicas are as excited as I am. There is huge difference between fucking a pro and non hard core girl.
What does CMP stand for?
Good advice! I've had some great times in CMP but I've also heard about some niff nods having problems there, especially when they are drunk and / or high. I always stop in there to take a look, if for nothing else than to break up the monotony at the other end of the strip.
What does CMP stand for?Chumps masterfully played.
The two guys I know who were taken advantage of were not newbies or drunk. One was a long time resident and business owner and the other a seasoned vet. They were both strong armed with padded bills. One was jailed and the other taken for a hundred bucks. Who knows how many guys have been ripped but not me. They do not do this with every customer but one is to many. I would not give those b0 Oastards a nickle.
What does CMP stand for?
The anticipation is awesome and I think mutual. Whether for money sex or any thing else I believe the chicas are as excited as I am.Let me have a guess: you are excited about spending the money and they are excited about getting hold of your dick.
There is huge difference between fucking a pro and non hard core girl.What is the difference?
One of those things
Fran if you do not know I can not help you.
Let me have a guess: you are excited about spending the money and they are excited about getting hold of your dick.
What is the difference?
FWIW, I believe he is saying it is a mental connection thing. It is what one feels on the inside. And yes, it could be based on an imaginary reality! It really does not mater because that feelng produces a different kind of biological response. All the way to completion and may linger!
It's kind of like saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That is a non-touch view. Versus this is total sensory biological feeling! Porbably emanates in the cortex! No, I am not a doc. Just a guy that loves the science of the brain. The quantum brain. Want to know more look into the work of Penrose and Hammeroff. They do not talk about this kind of stuff at all, but the quantum brain. The brains is of two people in coitus (to use the oft-used term in the comedy The Big Bang Theory" may indeed do a mind meld or exist in multiple places at once, during sex! Never thought you have to put up with this kind of nonsense, on this website, did ya? My apologies in advance! Truly!
One of those things
Fran if you do not know I can not help you.
I have had fun there on my way to Passions and after. I always paid for each drink and ladys drink as they came. They might think you are a cheap charlie, and I am not. Just cautious. When I have been there when it is slow the girls all swarm around you with the "pick me" look. They each tell you what they will do for you and how good it will be. But they are over priced and dirtier feel than Passions. Chicas are Chicas. You feel like a target when you are there. It is definately high pressure. Before Peters arrest at Passions closure the cool thing both Passions and CMP had were menus for available services. Prices and services each quoted on a well type set, in color, with photographs and laminated marketing tool. It was still in effect in June but when I returned for the month of August CMP pulled the menu and Peter was still in jail and Passions had closed. Any news of the Passions reopening SAGA?
ThunderStar
10-22-13, 22:52
Come on Frannie. I think I know who you are on another board and from what I've read on here you know your stuff.
Maybe for us tourists the difference is in our minds.
We have spent time with a semi pro a long time ago. And I personally felt the experience is different.
If you are a working girl and fuck every day for work, over time you are going to change. Your attitude will change, your appearance will change and the guys experience will change.
When you are a "new girl to the game" its still exciting / new / nervous to her. And there is a difference in the experience!
ThunderStar
10-22-13, 22:58
Hey Oldkool,
There are always two sides to every story. The truth is normally somewhere in the middle.
When on vacation I like a drink and in my job in the UK, I kinda know my drinks.
My complaint with CMP is I personally believe the Rum is watered down.
I order my drinks at the bar and watch. I saw how much rum was put into the glass and it didn't taste strong at all.
Couple that with the price of drinks in that place means we don't spend much time in there.
That said. It's not bad to check the place out every now and then.
I personally liked Banana Pepe a few years ago. That placed ticked all my boxes!
Quality of girls.
Drinks quality.
Prices.
Nice location.
Shame it went.
What does CMP stand for?Cost more pesos!
How about someone started a thread with pictures and names of chicas to avoid while in Sosua. Image how much help that will be to first timers! I bet some Vets in here can really run down a good list.
I never thought much about it and did not really care if they got it fixed or not until I started calling my chica's for spur of the moment fucking that is when I really found out how much them getting there hair done does matter. Especially when they have long hair.For me, hair is one of the sexiest things on a woman. One thing I love about the DR is finding beautiful island women with naturally beautiful hair. In the USA, a lot of women of color spend hundreds of dollars to walk around with somebody else's DNA on their head because they don't like their own hair. I see some of this in Sosua as well, but overall the DR has women with beautiful hair. I can't blame women for wanting to take care of it cause I know I love to run my fingers through it and grab it.
What does CMP stand for?Caribbean Men's Paradise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-dOJomrtP0
http://www.cmp-club.de/#! Home.
http://www.cubadave.com/2011/12/cmp-night-club-sosua-rd/
Doesn't surprise me. A brotha I met from DC in Sosua told me his boy married a puta this summer that he had referred him to after he hit it. Now the newly wed is sending his new wife Western Union while he prepares to bring her to the states. The guy told me it was kind of weird going to their wedding in Punta Cana knowing that at least 3 guys there had stroked the bride to be.LMAO. I knew this guy that's well traveled that had a puta pregnant when he didn't give her the pesos to get the abortion she then told another guy.
He was the father but it was not possible because she was not there when she conceived. This guy he paid for the abortion and then she blasted off to NY on a fiance visa with another dude. The guy from NY is going to catch nothing but from this puta because all the time she was waiting on her visa.
She continued work even though the guy was sending her WU money to keep her off the stroll.
These guys are who I call Grand Master Super Captain Save-a-whoe. These guys I believe should never get in to the hobby of mongering because they are such simps they believe that the GFE experience is real love. They probably read these boards too and listen to the homies but still believe that their chica or girl is one of a kind. It's been so many times I have been long stroking brides to be while their man is back home pampering them with WU money. You simps are probably reading right now and thinking not your girl because when I call she always answers. You are right she does, she'll be talking to you while sitting on top of a couple of inches. Guys marriage is a big step (I'm talking to you future Grandmaster Captain Save-a-whoes) why settle down with a woman who has been leasing the ass off at a regular bases? Unless you are staying there in the said country with the girl I would suggest not being the WU fiance. That is just Overtime pay for her trade.
Don't be Grandmaster Super Captain Save-a-whoe.All these guys are a rest haven for a ho. I seen a girl that got wife up on websites riding a dudes poles and sobering on them like a dog with rabies even after I pointed out this one guy I knew got mad at me and cut me off and still married her only for her to send him to hell 2 times and back.
I have had fun there on my way to Passions and after. I always paid for each drink and ladys drink as they came. They might think you are a cheap charlie, and I am not. Just cautious.Good move! I always give a place a shot because I know we are all different with how we are perceived, handle things, and what we bring to the table.
I know this place gets a bad rap and some of it is gossip by people that are telling stories third or forth hand. That being said, I definitely wouldn't make CMP my main stay for many of the reasons stated. But, you can also work the system in your favor if you know what you are doing.
Thanks for all the replies, guys!
Caribbean Men's Paradise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-dOJomrtP0
http://www.cmp-club.de/#
! Home.
http://www.cubadave.com/2011/12/cmp-night-club-sosua-rd/
How about someone started a thread with pictures and names of chicas to avoid while in Sosua. Image how much help that will be to first timers! I bet some Vets in here can really run down a good list.It can only create animosity, especially if you are posting people's photos without their consent along with detrimental remarks. In addition it is probably of limited practical use, because the appearance of girls can change rapidly with different hairstyles, etc. And because a girl who is great for one guy might turn out lousy for another.
Better to give people advice on how to identify chicas who are more likely to hit the spot.
Come on Frannie. I think I know who you are on another board and from what I've read on here you know your stuff.
Maybe for us tourists the difference is in our minds.
We have spent time with a semi pro a long time ago. And I personally felt the experience is different.
If you are a working girl and fuck every day for work, over time you are going to change. Your attitude will change, your appearance will change and the guys experience will change.
When you are a "new girl to the game" its still exciting / new / nervous to her. And there is a difference in the experience!I don't post on any other prostitution boards. I don't find the subject THAT interesting!
Old Kool was drawing a distinction between a girl who is a pro and one who is "not hard core". I was just wondering how one makes such a fine distinction. I suppose "hard core" means girls you will find daily in clubs and bars actively looking for paid sex, but in the DR "pro" and "not hard core" can be the same thing if you take "pro" to mean someone who has sexual relations with foreign men for financial gain.
I think there is a difference if the girl has not had sex for a while-say more than a week, she is likely to be easier to arouse, and if she is also attracted to you, then a definite bonus too. Another factor is obviously that if you take someone for just an hour and she is going to return to the bar, then her mind is probably already on keeping her hair looking good for the next trick. However, against that, people who go to Blackbeards also report a high level of satisfaction and most of their girls could be classed as hard-core, with possible exceptions for those new to the game, but even they are exposed to others more experienced.
All these guys are a rest haven for a ho. I seen a girl that got wife up on websites riding a dudes poles and sobering on them like a dog with rabies even after I pointed out this one guy I knew got mad at me and cut me off and still married her only for her to send him to hell 2 times and back.Sometimes that happens. These marriages have mixed results, and some work out well and others don't. I would not put too much emphasis on what you see on Web sites. Sex work is just a job.
It depends on many factors including the maturity and financial stability of the participants. All you can say really is that it gives the girl a CHANCE to do something different with her life, but not all have the ability or motivation to learn another language and get the educational certificates that give them a chance to do a non-menial job in another country. A lot of them hear stories about Dominicans who went overseas and came back with money and built a nice home, etc. Certainly it is true that if a Dominican can hang around in the US long enough to qualify for Social Security, they may return with a lifelong income.
I think posting pictures of bad actors is a good idea. A most unwanted list could be very helpful. Once a chica becomes a scammer they rarely change their stripes. You can do all the right things and still find your self with a bad girl. As far as BB goes ST sex is one and done, Most girls there are obviously very bored. Some of the guys could play the role of trolls in the Hobbit movie. Not saying I am all that but I saw guys there whose hygene and compartment left a lot to be desired.
It can only create animosity, especially if you are posting people's photos without their consent along with detrimental remarks. In addition it is probably of limited practical use, because the appearance of girls can change rapidly with different hairstyles, etc. And because a girl who is great for one guy might turn out lousy for another.
Better to give people advice on how to identify chicas who are more likely to hit the spot.
I think posting pictures of bad actors is a good idea.I think you need to be very careful about the legal aspect of posting pictures of anyone without their permission, especially if you are making allegations of criminal activity, swindles, etc. While it might not come to anything, it doesn't seem like it is worth the bother. For what? To warn other people? Very public spirited to be sure, but it also looks like a kind of vindictive revenge when things don't go as planned.
El Lobo Solo
10-23-13, 13:53
These guys are who I call Grand Master Super Captain Save-a-whoe. These guys I believe should never get in to the hobby of mongering because they are such simps they believe that the GFE experience is real love. They probably read these boards too and listen to the homies but still believe that their chica or girl is one of a kind. It's been so many times I have been long stroking brides to be while their man is back home pampering them with WU money. You simps are probably reading right now and thinking not your girl because when I call she always answers. You are right she does, she'll be talking to you while sitting on top of a couple of inches. Guys marriage is a big step (I'm talking to you future Grandmaster Captain Save-a-whoes) why settle down with a woman who has been leasing the ass off at a regular bases? Unless you are staying there in the said country with the girl I would suggest not being the WU fiance. That is just Overtime pay for her trade.
Don't be Grandmaster Super Captain Save-a-whoe.I often wonder when I read these kinds of posts whether the guy is really upset with himself because he knows he is forever tainted. Once you go down the monger path, can you ever go back to being a true lover? In my case I think not. I know no matter how much I love a woman, I will still be wanting to make some side trips, and I can't understand why that is such a bad thing. I mean I feel like I can be true to my lover in every way but monogamous sex. But I must say I wouldn't demand total monogamy from her either.
As far as true con artists go, I've met a few, male and female. There is nothing new under the sun. You can read about these kinds of women during WWII who were getting allotment checks from multiple guys straight from the US government. Certainly any guy sending money to women should be very careful about their own motives and be sure about what the woman is doing with it. You always read about the flameouts and disasters, but the successful situations don't make the News at 11.
If you're sending money to a woman to support her family, check out how they are living when you visit. Do the kids have new clothes? Is there a washing machine in the house? Are the kids going to school and studying? Etc. Or is the woman sporting all kinds of flash? Is she wearing expensive clothes and has expensive nails and hair? If you want to be an absentee daddy, then finish your homework.
Sure Thing
10-23-13, 15:58
I often wonder when I read these kinds of posts whether the guy is really upset with himself because he knows he is forever tainted. Once you go down the monger path, can you ever go back to being a true lover? In my case I think not. I know no matter how much I love a woman, I will still be wanting to make some side trips, and I can't understand why that is such a bad thing. I mean I feel like I can be true to my lover in every way but monogamous sex. But I must say I wouldn't demand total monogamy from her either.
As far as true con artists go, I've met a few, male and female. There is nothing new under the sun. You can read about these kinds of women during WWII who were getting allotment checks from multiple guys straight from the US government. Certainly any guy sending money to women should be very careful about their own motives and be sure about what the woman is doing with it. You always read about the flameouts and disasters, but the successful situations don't make the News at 11.
If you're sending money to a woman to support her family, check out how they are living when you visit. Do the kids have new clothes? Is there a washing machine in the house? Are the kids going to school and studying? Etc. Or is the woman sporting all kinds of flash? Is she wearing expensive clothes and has expensive nails and hair? If you want to be an absentee daddy, then finish your homework.This will just be a long debate. There will be guys who don't agree with wasting money on a chick who is a WG and those who think it's perfectly ok. I and a couple of other guys can go on about how a man is being played by doing but there will always be those who thinks its ok. So lets get back to the reports and I wish the captains well. I luv reading the Sosua boards their always colorful.
This subject is like the chica in the DR you must discuss it with the hotel before checking in. Most all hotels and resorts do not mind it. But like anywhere else in the world do not make any of the other guest uncomfortable. When these place's are really busy they will always be someone who does not really like it so then you must smoke in your room. Most chica's love to smoke
You talking cigarettes I think, I never had a chica who smoked in all my time in the DR.
This subject is like the chica in the DR you must discuss it with the hotel before checking in. Most all hotels and resorts do not mind it. But like anywhere else in the world do not make any of the other guest uncomfortable. When these place's are really busy they will always be someone who does not really like it so then you must smoke in your room. Most chica's love to smoke
The Mind Bender
10-24-13, 00:25
To all the "big papis"
If you're paying her when you're not around what's she doing for you?
If you're paying for some kind of exclusivity how can you possibly verify that? Her word?
Sounds like all pay, all deceit and no sex to me
Reading all these post on this site is sometimes a small job when you have not visited it in a while and you are getting ready for a big trip to the DR but guys I am here to tell you if you are going it is worth the time. Oldkool you are 1 of the reasons I went to the DR and continue to go. Each time I go I have more fun than the time before.
Oldkool you know what time it is and you have relaxed with many chica's if I am reading right.
Mr Enternational
10-24-13, 02:02
To all the "big papis"
If you're paying her when you're not around what's she doing for you?
If you're paying for some kind of exclusivity how can you possibly verify that? Her word?
Sounds like all pay, all deceit and no sex to meMaybe guys are paying to be told what they want to hear. Isn't that the principle behind sex chat lines and webcam sex sites?
Sure Thing
10-24-13, 02:15
Maybe guys are paying to be told what they want to hear. Isn't that the principle behind sex chat lines and webcam sex sites?On chat lines and webcam you know the money is going to the chat line and webcam. For the captains who are paying to be told what they want to hear except they believe what they hear and think it's real luv or they wouldn't be sending money to begin with.
Big difference.
I think you need to be very careful about the legal aspect of posting pictures of anyone without their permission, especially if you are making allegations of criminal activity, swindles, etc. While it might not come to anything, it doesn't seem like it is worth the bother. For what? To warn other people? Very public spirited to be sure, but it also looks like a kind of vindictive revenge when things don't go as planned.There are over 2800 pictures in the photo thread. Over half are pictures of naked chicas. How many ISG member got permission from the chicas to post their half naked to naked body on this forum or to share their encounters with them. I thought one of the goals of this forum is to share info. As for legal aspect. I can imagine a punta suing ISG for not giving the name government name of Grownman1 because he said she was a terrible fuck and did not do as she promised. Yep- she put her money together, came to the US, got an attorney, and now suing me for slander. Slander: and. Oral defamation, in which someone knowingly tells one or more persons an untruth about another, with the intent the untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. (I been watching Judge Mathis) Yep I can see it right now. I said she was a bad hoe, when in fact she is a good hoe with grate skills and got pictures, witnesses and statements from clients. Since I posted her name and picture- selling pussy ain't been the same for her in Sosua. As a result she had to move her family to Boca Chica to reestablish a new corner under an alias. She wants compensation for all the new mongers she has lost and might lose in the future. In pesos! Warning someone is worth the bother if it can help them not make the same mistakes I made, but hey that just me! I agree with you- some Mongers might be vindictive, but a lot of us may have similar stories with the same chica. Wouldn't that be very useful info. Oh yeah- why bother warning others people. For what? Know one is here for useful info anyway! I am just kidding Frannie. I enjoy your insightfulness. You bring yang to ying sometimes and I respect that!
There are over 2800 pictures in the photo thread. Over half are pictures of naked chicas. How many ISG member got permission from the chicas to post their half naked to naked body on this forum or to share their encounters with them.Not many, but they should. People have gotten in trouble over videos, for example a guy who posted a video on Youtube was detained in the DR, and some guys who were shooting porn videos where hijacked by gangsters on the way to the airport. If a chica is a criminal, she may have criminal associates who could bother you, perhaps on a future visit. Why go to the bother of obtaining and posting pictures? This is not effective use of your time. By all means write about your experiences, but it is probably best not to post photos or real names.
Mr Enternational
10-24-13, 12:31
Besides that, isn't there a website that women use about guys they should not date or screwed them over or whatever? And there is also a website used by guys about women who scam. Can't remember the names of any right now though.
http://reportyourex.com/featured-video-archives/dont-date-him-girl/
http://www.stop-scammers.com/
As always you should practice this hobby with caution and live by buyer beware and YMMV.
On chat lines and webcam you know the money is going to the chat line and webcam. For the captains who are paying to be told what they want to hear except they believe what they hear and think it's real luv or they wouldn't be sending money to begin with.
Big difference.For Chrissake! There are tens of thousands of people who send money by automatic debit every month to ripoff charities supposedly to support poor families in third world countries, very little of which money actually reaches the intended recipients, who are never personally identified to the donors with real names, addresses, etc.
If men are sending money to women in the DR at least they know the families and are getting something in return including sex and perhaps getting to know a family, seeing children grow up, learning the language, and so on.
A chica has been using one of my computers for communications with men via Tagged, Skype, Facebook, etc. And you would be amazed how many pathetic, sad, lonely men there are whose only joy in life seems tol be hours of banal conversations or masturbation on Skype, and they never travel anywhere, perhaps because they can't afford it or have criminal records, I don't know.
At least guys who send money to women have some human contact in their lives, and most likely they can well afford the money they are sending. Of course if they are short changing their own children in the home country to send money overseas, then that is deplorable, but how does anyone know that?
No body is getting in trouble for posting a bad actor. Come on Fran get pair. Bet you are scared to jay walk.
Not many, but they should. People have gotten in trouble over videos, for example a guy who posted a video on Youtube was detained in the DR, and some guys who were shooting porn videos where hijacked by gangsters on the way to the airport. If a chica is a criminal, she may have criminal associates who could bother you, perhaps on a future visit. Why go to the bother of obtaining and posting pictures? This is not effective use of your time. By all means write about your experiences, but it is probably best not to post photos or real names.
The Mind Bender
10-24-13, 15:23
For Chrissake! There are tens of thousands of people who send money by automatic debit every month to ripoff charities supposedly to support poor families in third world countries, very little of which money actually reaches the intended recipients, who are never personally identified to the donors with real names, addresses, etc.That's charity, there's no expectation of a relationship or sex. You're giving money someone you think needs it but you don't know what they look like, you're not attracted to them, and you have no interest in receiving anything in return. Charity and "tricking" are two different things.
If men are sending money to women in the DR at least they know the families and are getting something in return including sex and perhaps getting to know a family, seeing children grow up, learning the language, and so on.Well to be true the only thing you know is that you're sending money and she's receiving it. For all you know she could be buying new shoes or buying her real boyfriend new shoes. You can get the sex without wiring her money every month.
At least guys who send money to women have some human contact in their lives, and most likely they can well afford the money they are sending. Of course if they are short changing their own children in the home country to send money overseas, then that is deplorable, but how does anyone know that?If that's the only human contact you have then you seriously need to restructure your life. I'm not trying to be cruel but that sounds like a very unhealthy (mentally) way of living.
You can get the sex without wiring her money every month.Oh come on. Most of the guys on this board travel overseas to have sex with prostitutes to make their miserable lives bearable. It really is a question of the pot calling the kettle black when guys come on this board to attack other guys whom they perceive as being lower down the status ladder than themselves.
Yes you can get sex without wiring money every month, but people can do what the hell they want with their disposable income. I would imagine that people who send money every month feel that they have more of a connection than just getting sex.
If someone who sends money to a chica doesn't send it any more, there is no guarantee that the opportunity cost money will be spent on good works or will profit the human race in any manner. If she cheats on him or has a Dominican boyfriend, that is their business. Why should it concern third parties?
No doubt. Every person pays for the service they want. If sending money and having what they consider a relationship. It is their fantacy. Some people drive Bentleys othere KIAs. The value is perceived. I am talking to this girl on line who has a deformed face. Her nose was cut. Her body is a ten. Some guys would be man why you with her. Sweet personality and hot body.
Oh come on. Most of the guys on this board travel overseas to have sex with prostitutes to make their miserable lives bearable. It really is a question of the pot calling the kettle black when guys come on this board to attack other guys whom they perceive as being lower down the status ladder than themselves.
Yes you can get sex without wiring money every month, but people can do what the hell they want with their disposable income. I would imagine that people who send money every month feel that they have more of a connection than just getting sex.
If someone who sends money to a chica doesn't send it any more, there is no guarantee that the opportunity cost money will be spent on good works or will profit the human race in any manner. If she cheats on him or has a Dominican boyfriend, that is their business. Why should it concern third parties?
The Mind Bender
10-24-13, 16:17
Yes you can get sex without wiring money every month, but people can do what the hell they want with their disposable income. I would imagine that people who send money every month feel that they have more of a connection than just getting sex.Well I really wasn't trying to attack you man just trying to understand the mentality behind it.
WU payments aren't my thing but if that suits you fine so be it
Well I really wasn't trying to attack you man just trying to understand the mentality behind it.Sorry I misunderstood your spirit of enquiry.
If you're paying her when you're not around what's she doing for you?
If you're paying for some kind of exclusivity how can you possibly verify that? Her word?
Sounds like all pay, all deceit and no sex to meIt is just that a couple of new contributors to the board have jumped in with very strongly expressed opinions about this, and I am just trying to offer a more nuanced view of the matter.
You talking cigarettes I think, I never had a chica who smoked in all my time in the DR.Well that makes 2 of us that has never had a chica in the DR that smoked regular cigarettes.
But as far as the left handed cigarettes go. They all seem to love it.
Sure Thing
10-24-13, 18:54
Sorry I misunderstood your spirit of enquiry.
It is just that a couple of new contributors to the board have jumped in with very strongly expressed opinions about this, and I am just trying to offer a more nuanced view of the matter.Look Frannie,
I wasn't attacking either but I'm in the same position of trying to understand this also. Plus I was giving a warning not attacking. I hear your opinion but we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. Plus I'm not that new of a member. I've contributed some reports about several years ago about the DR. It just that when I tried to log back in I couldn't remember my password and had to make a new one.
Look Frannie,
I wasn't attacking either but I'm in the same position of trying to understand this also. Plus I was giving a warning not attacking. I hear your opinion but we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. Plus I'm not that new of a member. I've contributed some reports about several years ago about the DR. It just that when I tried to log back in I couldn't remember my password and had to make a new one.OK, this what you wrote before:
These guys are who I call Grand Master Super Captain Save-a-whoe. These guys I believe should never get in to the hobby of mongering because they are such simps they believe that the GFE experience is real love. They probably read these boards too and listen to the homies but still believe that their chica or girl is one of a kind. It's been so many times I have been long stroking brides to be while their man is back home pampering them with WU money. You simps are probably reading right now and thinking not your girl because when I call she always answers. You are right she does, she'll be talking to you while sitting on top of a couple of inches.To me this comes off as vindictive, hateful, and boastful not as an attempt to understand more.
The women described are not showing much respect to the man who is supporting them, but not to you either, as she does not even turn off her phone to have sex with you, perhaps because she expects a call from her main man.
I cannot answer the question as to why so many men send money to chicas in the DR. There are men of all ages and from many different countries and at many different economic levels, and you see couples all over the place, at the supermarket, in restaurants and bars, at apartment complexes, and schools, if there are children, and so on. Some of the time the men are elsewhere, especially if they are running businesses or not yet retired, so they send money.
You say: "These guys are who I call Grand Master Super Captain Save-a-whoe"but you don't really know anything about each individual couple, how they met, what the basis for their relationship is, and so on.
Here's a little story that may open your eyes. About ten years ago I knew a guy in Puerto Plata who had a girlfriend whom he eventually married and took to England. They had at least one child, but I don't know how it all ended, as I lost touch with them. In the early days of their relationship, the woman found out that the guy had had sex with another chica. However her concern was whether he had paid or gotten a freebie, because in her mind payment for sex was just one of the unfortunate, but necessary facts of life, but a chica having sex with a man for free was an entirely different and much more serious issue-that would be cheating.
That's why it is best not to get involved between two other people-because you really can't know all the ins and outs of their relationship or what they expect from each other.
I know another couple where the girl got pregnant and the guy was sending her support for her and the baby and then came to the DR and married her and eventually took her and the baby to Holland. Last I heard they were doing OK, though no doubt she was finding it hard to adjust to her new life.
You see, every story is different, and while I am sure that the boyfriends of the women you have sex with do appreciate your sympathy, it won't make the slightest difference.
You can be sure that most of the men met these women in prostitution environments and are well aware of the scene. The men may also have their own infidelity stories. Both may be bad actors, but if there is something that also holds them together, maybe personal chemistry or affection, or whatever it is then so be it. Also take into account that many men don't take much pride on being out on the street "mongering" and looking for a new partner each day and may get more satisfaction from a one-on-one relationship with someone who hits the spot for them. Sending a regular remittance certainly builds dependency, and though she may continue to cash in on her depreciating assets in the meantime, she will probably also be in touch with him daily via phone or Skype or Facebook.
Most girls I have dealt with would not smoke anything. Weed is viewed by them as a hard drug or more like cocaine. Most of my Haitian girls enjoyed weed but their culture is very different. I was surprised by this but it has been confirmed over long period of time. When you find a DR girl who smokes look out. Real good chance she is very hard core.
Well I really wasn't trying to attack you man just trying to understand the mentality behind it.
WU payments aren't my thing but if that suits you fine so be it
Not many, but they should. People have gotten in trouble over videos, for example a guy who posted a video on Youtube was detained in the DR, and some guys who were shooting porn videos where hijacked by gangsters on the way to the airport. If a chica is a criminal, she may have criminal associates who could bother you, perhaps on a future visit. Why go to the bother of obtaining and posting pictures? This is not effective use of your time. By all means write about your experiences, but it is probably best not to post photos or real names.I will agree to disagree about what is an effective use of ones time. I could say the same the about talking about eating vegetables and fruits or drinking coffee on a Sex Guide LOL. But I found it entertainingly funny!
Most girls I have dealt with would not smoke anything. Weed is viewed by them as a hard drug or more like cocaine. Most of my Haitian girls enjoyed weed but their culture is very different. I was surprised by this but it has been confirmed over long period of time. When you find a DR girl who smokes look out. Real good chance she is very hard core.Wow OLDK I thought you would have ran into a few with your encounters. Out all the chicas I have dealt with. 40% of them hit the want to hit the jay. It's usually the younger ones. I hung out with a Dominican street hustler in Sosua who tried to sell me weed. He pointed out and introduced me to all the chicas he sold to. They seem all Dominican. There were a good bit. I didn't buy that shit but I learned some shit. If she smokes a cigarette she is more likely to hit the jay.
Not many, but they should. People have gotten in trouble over videos, for example a guy who posted a video on Youtube was detained in the DR, and some guys who were shooting porn videos where hijacked by gangsters on the way to the airport. If a chica is a criminal, she may have criminal associates who could bother you, perhaps on a future visit. Why go to the bother of obtaining and posting pictures? This is not effective use of your time. By all means write about your experiences, but it is probably best not to post photos or real names.
That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)
In the DR you never go short of fresh pineapples, guavas, papaya, passion fruit, bananas, avocadoes, and mangoes-and they are cheap. Oranges and imported apples are also readily available if you get a yearning for apple pie. To go with it there are plenty of flavors of ice cream not available elsewhere.
Next month I will be making a trip to Florida and am actually dreading having to try to find something decent to eat in the kind of restaurants you find close to the highway. There will be no DR breakfasts of bacon, free range eggs, homefries, fruit salads of papaya, pineapple, banana, watermelon, orange, aromatic coffee, juice, ice water, croissants, toast, and jam for $5, that is for sure!
Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, but for some reason it seems most people in the US like their coffee both bitter and weak, a combination I truly hate, so it is really difficult to find a decent cup of coffee on the road in hotels, restaurants and gas stations, and I once got reprimanded by a cop for using a camping gas stove to prepare a decent pot of Eight O'Clock coffee in a picnic area at a highway rest station!I am the second to last person that should be talking about what is an effective use of a persons time of subjects to talk about on a SEX guide.
I love coming here for these great trip reports. It's not like you have to wade through pages of off topic shit to find them.
I deal with non pros and pros. Only a very few would take a drag. I had young one take a hit but you could tell she had no clue. All the others acted like it was herion.
Wow OLDK I thought you would have ran into a few with your encounters. Out all the chicas I have dealt with. 40% of them hit the want to hit the jay. It's usually the younger ones. I hung out with a Dominican street hustler in Sosua who tried to sell me weed. He pointed out and introduced me to all the chicas he sold to. They seem all Dominican. There were a good bit. I didn't buy that shit but I learned some shit. If she smokes a cigarette she is more likely to hit the jay.
I love coming here for these great trip reports. It's not like you have to wade through pages of off topic shit to find them.Actually all the recent posts are about some aspect of life in Sosua or the DR and the thread is not really dedicated to short term tourist trip reports, or else there would be very little to read or discuss. Of course it is always interesting when someone new shows up on the scene to give a fresh perspective-if one can find their trip reports.
You announced that you were making a trip to the DR in June. It is now almost November and I can't seem to find your trip report either. Could you please provide a link.
Actually all the recent posts are about some aspect of life in Sosua or the DR and the thread is not really dedicated to short term tourist trip reports, or else there would be very little to read or discuss. Of course it is always interesting when someone new shows up on the scene to give a fresh perspective-if one can find their trip reports.
You announced that you were making a trip to the DR in June. It is now almost November and I can't seem to find your trip report either. Could you please provide a link.Why bother? It'd just get buried by the BS or petty arguements. Hell, a member cannibalized and cropped my chica pic from another forum a few pages back. Its out there. There are many guys like me who aren't new to the scene who'd contribute if it weren't for all the discussions that belong elsewhere. Don't anyone bring up blacks or Brazil here. That could last for days! I've said my piece. Thanks to Tomjackin for putting me onto Sosua elsewhere.
Out.
Mr Enternational
10-25-13, 04:19
Wow OLDK I thought you would have ran into a few with your encounters. Out all the chicas I have dealt with. 40% of them hit the want to hit the jay. It's usually the younger ones.I'm with Old Kool on that one. I don't think I have ever met a Dominicana that smokes anything. (Unless you count Patricia; I have never seen her smoke but she told me she smokes weed.)
If she smokes a cigarette she is more likely to hit the jay.Sounds like something I was taught in the navy. But that saying was that if a chick smokes cigarettes, then she definitely sucks dick. In the 25 years since, I have yet to see that one disproven.
I love coming here for these great trip reports. It's not like you have to wade through pages of off topic shit to find them.I completely agree. It goes down like this:
You should do this!
You shouldn't do that!
You should do like I do!
I fucking know more than you!
You don't know shit!
I treat chicas like this, you should treat them the same!
Treat the chicas like dirt!
Treat the chicas like queens!
Never help a girl out!
The girls are out to take all your money!
Did I miss anything my prophets?
Please leave the TR section for, oh, I don't know, MAYBE TRs!
Please do your babbling in the Sosua thread.
Sure Thing
10-25-13, 07:04
OK, this what you wrote before:
To me this comes off as vindictive, hateful, and boastful not as an attempt to understand more.
The women described are not showing much respect to the man who is supporting them, but not to you either, as she does not even turn off her phone to have sex with you, perhaps because she expects a call from her main man.
I cannot answer the question as to why so many men send money to chicas in the DR. There are men of all ages and from many different countries and at many different economic levels, and you see couples all over the place, at the supermarket, in restaurants and bars, at apartment complexes, and schools, if there are children, and so on. Some of the time the men are elsewhere, especially if they are running businesses or not yet retired, so they send money.
You say: "These guys are who I call Grand Master Super Captain Save-a-whoe"but you don't really know anything about each individual couple, how they met, what the basis for their relationship is, and so on.
Here's a little story that may open your eyes. About ten years ago I knew a guy in Puerto Plata who had a girlfriend whom he eventually married and took to England. They had at least one child, but I don't know how it all ended, as I lost touch with them. In the early days of their relationship, the woman found out that the guy had had sex with another chica. However her concern was whether he had paid or gotten a freebie, because in her mind payment for sex was just one of the unfortunate, but necessary facts of life, but a chica having sex with a man for free was an entirely different and much more serious issue-that would be cheating.
That's why it is best not to get involved between two other people-because you really can't know all the ins and outs of their relationship or what they expect from each other..I'm not going to argue with you about sending a prostitute money or marrying her. It's ridiculous. Lets get back to the reports, LOL.
Why bother? It'd just get buried by the BS or petty arguements. Hell, a member cannibalized and cropped my chica pic from another forum a few pages back. Its out there. There are many guys like me who aren't new to the scene who'd contribute if it weren't for all the discussions that belong elsewhere. Don't anyone bring up blacks or Brazil here. That could last for days! I've said my piece. Thanks to Tomjackin for putting me onto Sosua elsewhere. Out.So you want to read, but not contribute unless your report can be headlined and given its own thread?
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I deal with non pros and pros. Only a very few would take a drag. I had young one take a hit but you could tell she had no clue. All the others acted like it was herion.If these girls don't hit the j then they are so high on cocaine they don't need it.
I personally do not want to deal with the one's doing cocaine for it make's the experience uncomfortable for me.
Most people except the chica's tell me they do not smoke the 1st time I meet them but for some reason when I meet them again they smoke and enjoy it.
The laws concerning this matter are not in the smokers favor in the DR but don't let these guys who only do some other kind of mind altering thing scare you away from the DR they are plenty of people who enjoy it and do there thing every day all day with no problems.
I almost did not go to the DR because they were so much negative talk about smoking but the deeper I read these post I found people like me and decided to give it a try.
The DR is awesome for me
I tend to go toward the sweet innocent type. I enjoy a nice buzz and would like be with someone who does as well. Most of the girls in the DR are hard core or not. Not much in the middle. I am not an expert on coke usage. I have never used and do not know anyone who does.
If these girls don't hit the j then they are so high on cocaine they don't need it.
I personally do not want to deal with the one's doing cocaine for it make's the experience uncomfortable for me.
Most people except the chica's tell me they do not smoke the 1st time I meet them but for some reason when I meet them again they smoke and enjoy it.
The laws concerning this matter are not in the smokers favor in the DR but don't let these guys who only do some other kind of mind altering thing scare you away from the DR they are plenty of people who enjoy it and do there thing every day all day with no problems.
I almost did not go to the DR because they were so much negative talk about smoking but the deeper I read these post I found people like me and decided to give it a try.
The DR is awesome for me
I tend to go toward the sweet innocent type. I enjoy a nice buzz and would like be with someone who does as well. Most of the girls in the DR are hard core or not. Not much in the middle. I am not an expert on coke usage. I have never used and do not know anyone who does.Not ever trying coke is a good thing OldKool.
Sad to say but I have done lot's of coke in the past.
You did not know but if you have been with a lot of chia's they were some of them who were doing it.
I go for the sweet innocent type as well.
Just because a chica smoke's does not make her any less innocent to me but if she snorts, shoots or smoke's coke she is tainted
I tend to go toward the sweet innocent type. I enjoy a nice buzz and would like be with someone who does as well. Most of the girls in the DR are hard core or not. Not much in the middle. I am not an expert on coke usage. I have never used and do not know anyone who does.I thought I went toward the sweet innocent too. I nice buzz in Sosua puts me in my zone. I never used coke but I know the coke heads, no para mi. I had a few of girls asked me about ex, why do they think I would have the shit beats me. All nature here!
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