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In October and November my DC membership was in full effect. I had several numbers of chicas to contact. However, I only contacted one from PP. She had the Mr Ed thing going on with her grill. Plus she lied about her age. Her profile said she was 29, but in person she revealed that she was 41. A total turn off. And it changed my interest in pursuing the other contacts.
So, every time I was on the ground in Sosua, there were so many chicas available, that I forgot all about the DC chicas. In Sosua the chicas were right in my face. My attraction was realized in the moment, no guess work involved. We all knew why they were there and what was expected. The DC chicas I had no clue if I would be attracted to or would want to get with them. Plus, the probability of encountering issues, like them claiming to need money for transportation or them being on or coming off the rag.
You know the saying "A bird in the hand."That's is super. Clearly it is working for you and you are happy! Unfortunately, I only like to hang with the Sosua chicas, buy them drinks, flirt, dance etc. I really do not want any Sosua hard core or experienced pros, with more than 30-60 days experience in my room. Just does not work for me. Strangely enough, sometimes I like soft pros chicas in Brasil. Otherwise I prefer puerto plata non-pros, because I do not want any ST or usually, really even a 1 nighter. So, I am definitely not the norm.
This dovetails really well with my experience with the Cupid girls and the POP non pros.
Not sure who you were seeking feedback from, but I can share a little of my experience.
I don't speak spanish fluently. I know enough spanish to get by though. When I 1st joined DC I thought it was cool corresponding back and forth with chicas for weeks and months before meeting them. Now, I find that counter-productive, and to a certain extent, kinda corny. We arent developing a relationship, so whats the point? For one, many of these chicas are communicating with several dudes all at the same time. Just like any other dating website. The only connection that counts is the one with the guy in country with her at that moment. Only when I'm there will my turn be significant. So now, when my membership is paid and I'm browsing profiles or responding to interested chicas, I send messages to chicas telling them I will be there in a week.
Give me your number and I'll call you when I get there. Just about every woman I sent that message to, left her number in my mailbox. No hesitation. I believe when they know you will be there so soon, you get moved up on the priority list. They know some bennies are just a week away. A dude still online yapping away aint getting nowhere until he gets himself down there.
When I arrive in country, if I want I will call them, and arrange a meeting. Last April it was a chica that lived in PP. I called her before I left the airport to go to Sosua. I met a taxi friend of mine at the airport and got him to translate for me. I ended up going into PP to meet her that afternoon. She was fine as hell. Took her back to Don Antonio and she was my pretend GF for about 2 months. Thats just one example. But my point is, I feel I am having more success just taking numbers and calling when I get in country, than maintaining weeks and months of meaningless chatter with women who are juggling communication with several dudes online including me.
I don't concern myself getting details straight with chicas (their expectations for $$$) before meeting them. That I can do once I meet them in person, once I realize there is mutual attraction. Ironically, often it wasnt necessary getting payment expectations out on the table. We just went with the flow. Most times things went well, all were satisfied. Other times, adjustments had to made for overly opportunistic chicas. If a Dom Cupid chica tried to get payment details on the table online or in email prior to meeting, I probably wouldn't follow through with her. I can go to Sosua for that.
I wonder by whose account or standard O?I've never been during the Super Bowl, but I've read some people's observations / accounts that chicas prices tend to be higher during this time. I know this is a generalization since different people travel in different circles, but I think the reference would be to the average monger in D'Latin or Rhumba.
I'm only concerned with what they think of me to the extent that I think it will affect the future service I will receive (from them or those they communicate with).
For me, the potential reduction in service from gifting (appearing to be weak, etc) is not enough to offset to pleasure the gifts bring me. So I give gifts.Generally speaking, I can relate to you when it comes to having a woman wear sexy lingerie. It surely can enhance some womens sex appeal. But at the same time, usually the sexy attire a woman is wearing when I meet her does it for me and then some. The rest that goes on between us, usually happens in the dark or subdued light. Moreover, if it's only ST, the chica really isn't going to be there that long, nor will she be wearing the lingerie that long for it to make that much of a difference in the overall experience. But I do understand that this is what works for you.
I get your point also, that a reduction in service from gifting (potentially appearing weak) is not enough to offset the pleasure the gifts bring you. But the problem with that sole perspective, is that a reduction in service may not be the only risk nor the worse outcome a monger may face? If a monger misjudges the impact of potentially appearing weak with the wrong chicas, he could find himself dealing with a lot more than a reduction in service. Like a chica calling some cops she knows that can set a dude up proper for extortion. Or potentially what that chica did. If anything, your incident can serve as reminder for all of us, of what can potentially happen with the wrong chica that doesn't share our pleasures / interests / motivations. And we must all be aware, in some instances a dude may not be able to buy his way instantly out of trouble.
I've never been during the Super Bowl, but I've read some people's observations / accounts that chicas prices tend to be higher during this time. I know this is a generalization since different people travel in different circles, but I think the reference would be to the average monger in D'Latin or Rhumba.The way I look at it, chicas arent like retail clothing stores where shit goes on sale and then gets marked up. In Sosua pussy is always negotiable. Come to think of it. In the past few months I haven't heard many stories of dudes complaining about chicas expecting ridiculous amounts for their services. One or two here or there, but not like it was a few months ago like it was an epidemic. If anything guys have been reporting paying on average 1000 to 2000 for ST.
If there is a sharp increase in chicas asking ridiculous amounts for SBW, hopefully they'll experience enough guys who will quickly bring them back to reality. My recollection of past SBW, I didn't have any problem with finding affordable pussy. Another consideration? A lot of fresh newbies will likely be on hand. They might try to blurt out some ridiculous amount, and they may hook a few dudes. But an experienced monger will quickly shoot that shit down. I suspect competition will be fierce. A lot of chicas will be sitting on their asses, or pacing up and down Dr Rosen looking for work, just like I witnessed in Nov and Dec. Guys are going to take advantage of that.
, I only like to hang with the Sosua chicas, buy them drinks, flirt, dance etc. I really do not want any Sosua hard core or experienced pros, with more than 30-60 days experience in my room. Just does not work for me. Strangely enough, sometimes I like soft pros chicas in Brasil. Otherwise I prefer puerto plata non-pros, because I do not want any ST or usually, really even a 1 nighter. So, I am definitely not the norm.I don't think your out of the norm not wanting to deal with the Sosua hardcore pro's. I noticed quite a few guys wifing up at times, seeing the same girl multiple times, and avoiding the girls on the Strip. In my case, I was mixing it up every day or so having sleepovers and then pulling in new ones. Just a kid in a candy store!
In the past few months I haven't heard many stories of dudes complaining about chicas expecting ridiculous amounts for their services. One or two here or there, but not like it was a few months ago like it was an epidemic. If anything guys have been reporting paying on average 1000 to 2000 for ST.This is consistent with my recent trip. Almost every girl I encountered could be had ST for 1500 without any real negotiating. If you are willing to negotiate, I'm sure you could beat it down to 1000, especially during the day. Some very premium night-only girls were at 2000 ST and not budging. But very rare.
A lot of fresh newbies will likely be on hand. They might try to blurt out some ridiculous amount, and they may hook a few dudes. But an experienced monger will quickly shoot that shit down.Exactly. If they don't recognize you or think you might not know the ropes, of course they will ask for a lot of money. Why not? Worst case scenario: you will correct them and they will still get the going rate.
Tempoecorto
01-07-14, 05:57
I'm only concerned with what they think of me to the extent that I think it will affect the future service I will receive (from them or those they communicate with).I like your attitude! Do not let others put words in your mouth. Giving gifts even to a Sosua "puta" (who are hardened but just as human as we are) , does not set you up as a mark. All you are doing (other than getting the pleasure for yourself as you described, is setting her up with a positive vibe. Which translates into a better time spent together. The fact of bringing a gift, is not so much an incentive but an acknowledgement that you have thought about this person (at least in the receiver's mind) and that per se creates a positive outcome. As they say, it is not the object but the thought behind it that counts. This is not to say, that all women will react equally (very negatively according to popular fiction but I am yet to see this and I started my secret life around 1986 in land down under) or will reciprocate but you live your life according to the good karma you want to generate. Ignore the nay-sayers!
I took a stroll this morning and passed Passion's. I happened to meet the manager and he told me that the club will open tonight at 6 pm. Maybe this is old news for you but I have not seen anything about it in this forum.Is it open?
Grandnash84
01-07-14, 07:09
I've never been during the Super Bowl, but I've read some people's observations / accounts that chicas prices tend to be higher during this time. I know this is a generalization since different people travel in different circles, but I think the reference would be to the average monger in D'Latin or Rhumba.I've been to super bowl in Sosua 2 years ina row, about to make it mt 3rd in a few weeks. By far the best selection of chicas in Sosua during the year. Never experienced chicas uping their price during super bowl. If anything it is easier to negoiate becuase there is so much competion during super bowl.
By far the best selection of chicas in sosua during the year.Cool. I hope you Superbowl mongers take and post some pics of the talent.
I like your attitude! Do not let others put words in your mouth. Giving gifts even to a Sosua "puta" (who are hardened but just as human as we are) , does not set you up as a mark. All you are doing (other than getting the pleasure for yourself as you described, is setting her up with a positive vibe. Which translates into a better time spent together. The fact of bringing a gift, is not so much an incentive but an acknowledgement that you have thought about this person (at least in the receiver's mind) and that per se creates a positive outcome. As they say, it is not the object but the thought behind it that counts. This is not to say, that all women will react equally (very negatively according to popular fiction but I am yet to see this and I started my secret life around 1986 in land down under) or will reciprocate but you live your life according to the good karma you want to generate. Ignore the nay-sayers!At this point I'm going to address you and ORourke68 here. 1st off the only reason you are posting is because you and your buddy Old Fool have a bug up their butt in my regard on these boards. And I'm sure thats the motivation for this type of response. I find that type of posting very cowardly. Now to the meat and potatoes.
Nobody put any words in anybodys mouth. And nobody here took the position of being a nay sayer. I don't think ORourke even took it that way. ORourkes position was acknowledged as him doing his own thing. If anything, the exchange has been productive and respectful. I don't talk to people as if they are children even if I am offering a perspective or advice. Further, throughout my exchange with ORourke I purposely prefaced my comments using words as "may" and "potentially" "possibly". Those words are powerful, because they acknowledge the possibility of being wrong, or something not applying. I leave room for error. I never intended nor do I recall trying to throw out absolutes of what is going to happen. My motivation was simply offering brotherly caution.
Whereas your response has a dual motive here. And check it. You couldn't possibly know if giving gifts even to a Sosua "puta" (who are hardened but just as human as we are) "does not set you up as a mark". How the hell could you possible know that for sure? Totally irresponsible statement. You better learn the power of the words may, possibly and potentially. Your statement had no thought at all, that was you simply trying to counter what I said. It's much wiser to always be aware of how ones actions may or potentially send the wrong message or cause the wrong type of attention. I hope you see the words may and potentially? Because we don't need to see any more exaggerations about somebody putting words in anybodies mouth, or being a nay sayer
From what I read, ORourke appears to be quite astute of realizing there are risks out there, seems to know that every chica doesn't respond to gifts the same. Next time you want to get at me, why don't you just come direct? Give me the opportunity to help you understand what you read and the spirit in which it was was given to the individual I was talking to.
ORourke, if in any way I over stepped my bounds or appeared too expressive, I meant no harm, and did not intend to discount your abilities to protect your own interest. Other than that. I hope were all good?
This is consistent with my recent trip. Almost every girl I encountered could be had ST for 1500 without any real negotiating. If you are willing to negotiate, I'm sure you could beat it down to 1000, especially during the day. Some very premium night-only girls were at 2000 ST and not budging. But very rare.
Exactly. If they don't recognize you or think you might not know the ropes, of course they will ask for a lot of money. Why not? Worst case scenario: you will correct them and they will still get the going rate.Consistent with my recent trip as well. Ironically, once me and a chica agree on at least 1500 as a base, I'm good. What I eventually give her when done is a whole other story. Because many of the chicas I had last trip were great, which resulted in me giving them a 500 peso propina and maybe moto money. None of them asked for a propina or expected me to give one, so the 500 peso propina was totally on me. If a chica quoted me 2000 right off the bat for ST, I would likely counter with 1500. Of course it would depend on how attracted I was to her. When done, I might be less likely to give her the 500 peso propina. But would do so if the chica was exceptional or someone I would consider special.
I do recall one newbie quoting me 3500 for ST. But it was clear the only reason she did it, was just to see if I would go for it. It's comical how a chica can go from 3500 to 1500 in 5 seconds. On the way back to your spot, it would be quite interesting getting a chica to be honest about why she quoted some ridiculously high amount.
Dunno what to say. I met over a dozen from Cupid and they were all honest and none were over 23. It is a lot of work though. I get their Facebook sites and check out all their photos and their timelines. I validate, cross- validate and look for sound of their voice, how they talk etc. Even though my spanish is barely elementary. I am also fairly proficient in reading people in general. Not a 100% success rate, but probably say 65. But it is an art though and I can't quite spell out the details of taking in individual data points and weaving them into a personality profile projection.Since I'll be in the DR for an entire month (Jan into Feb) , I may mix it up. Enjoy the hell out of Sosua. And also travel around to some neighboring towns. I still have the numbers of some DC chicas. I don't think they would hold it against me that I didn't call or follow through before. They may not even care. I know a very nice 40yr old chica from Santiago I met on DC back in August. She co owns a salon. I may surprise her with a visit. That much time in country will allow me to be more adventurous.
Since I'll be in the DR for an entire month (Jan into Feb) , I may mix it up. Enjoy the hell out of Sosua. And also travel around to some neighboring towns. I still have the numbers of some DC chicas. I don't think they would hold it against me that I didn't call or follow through before. They may not even care. I know a very nice 40yr old chica from Santiago I met on DC back in August. She co owns a salon. I may surprise her with a visit. That much time in country will allow me to be more adventurous.Love to travel to some neighboring towns. What do you recommend, with a driver, cause I will not drive in the DR. Also, any towns with good accommodations, with good free wifi, good water and electricity? And of course, plenty of chicas with a small town attitude?
The fact of bringing a gift, is not so much an incentive but an acknowledgement that you have thought about this person (at least in the receiver's mind) and that per se creates a positive outcome.I think you are right in saying it is not so much of an incentive. You should not expect a lower cash price (or even better service) when you are handing over a gift. Do it for yourself or don't do it. Large in-kind payments that some guys (not me!) make during an extended stay might reduce your bill somewhat, but probably not dollar-for-dollar. Even then, you'd be well served to assume none of that counts toward the bill unless you discuss it with her in advance.
I'm less inclined to believe it "sets a positive vibe" and therefore makes it more likely you'll have a positive experience. Perhaps. But, in my experience, it is pretty easy to set a positive vibe with these girls. So I can't see the gifts doing much more on that front.
With that said, it seems reasonable to me that some girls do appreciate the gifts (though perhaps not as much as cash value). They ask if I have anymore for a sister or a friend. I always say "Solo para ti, mi amor!"
And nobody here took the position of being a nay sayer. I don't think ORourke even took it that way.I didn't.
From what I read, ORourke appears to be quite astute of realizing there are risks out there, seems to know that every chica doesn't respond to gifts the same.The only absolute is that there are no absolutes. In my mind, it's all about weighing different risks and probabilities. Some probabilities you can be relatively sure about (e. G, What happens if you agree to pay 1500 and then only pay 100? I am pretty confident she will be pissed.). Other things are not so clear, or vary to a greater extent from chica-to-chica (e. G, how will she respond to a gift?). Conversations like these are great because it provides alternative perspectives so you can adjust the probabilities you are working with accordingly. Or, if you think the person giving advice is full of shit, don't adjust your probabilities at all! It is completely up to you.
ORourke, if in any way I over stepped my bounds or appeared too expressive, I meant no harm, and did not intend to discount your abilities to protect your own interest. Other than that. I hope were all good?We're all good, brother. We are just a couple of guys with a couple opinions. Nothing to see here.
Is it open?For those of you on FB check out Cuba Dave's video posts. He does a pretty good job of reporting live from the scene. He went to Passions grand opening last night. I don't think they are running it the old way based on his reports. He also confirms that CMP is still closed.
Love to travel to some neighboring towns. What do you recommend, with a driver, cause I will not drive in the DR. Also, any towns with good accommodations, with good free wifi, good water and electricity? And of course, plenty of chicas with a small town attitude?I don't really know much about the towns I passed through. But I recall the few times that I traveled east on Route 5, I passed through several towns and saw chicas all over the place. I can't name them all. Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Las Terranas, Samana. I'm drawing a blank on many others. For me, if I was exploring with a buddy, I think it would be best to also have a Spanish speaking wingman come along. But I'll be driving my rental. In your case, you will have to find a driver that can take you to these towns. Sounds like you might need a wingman that speaks Spanish too. Maybe your driver can fit the bill for both roles?
The thing I think is important is not set ones expectations too high. Meaning, when you go into these towns the local chicas may or may not be very receptive. You'll have to brave going into some local establishments or hole in the wall places where locals congregate. You may have to set out to explore a few times to see as much as you can. If nothing really exciting jumps out at you, at least you are getting an idea of whats out there. If you do happen to meet some prospects, your challenge then is how to follow through. Will you stay in that town? Are there cabanas / hotels there where you will be comfortable? Or will the chica expect you to come to her house? You may find yourself in a very uncomfortable situation when you are subject directly to super modest living conditions. Will you be prepared for staying overnight in her town? Or will you try to get her to come back with you, or travel to see you later?
And then, what do you do with your driver and wingman if you find somebody you want to spend time with and stay there?
Love to travel to some neighboring towns. What do you recommend, with a driver, cause I will not drive in the DR. Also, any towns with good accommodations, with good free wifi, good water and electricity? And of course, plenty of chicas with a small town attitude?BTW closer options may be the few towns immediately west of Sosua. Like Los Castillo, La Union, another that starts with an M, and a few others. Chicas met here may be more receptive and willing to come back to your spot (PP, Sosua etc ).
BTW closer options may be the few towns immediately west of Sosua. Like Los Castillo, La Union, another that starts with an M, and a few others. Chicas met here may be more receptive and willing to come back to your spot (PP, Sosua etc ).Thanks! Appreciate your suggestions.
What's up all! Enjoying my last five days. Almost time to return to reality. I had good luck with the chicas. Lots of fun with the bartenders, knocked off a couple of new ones. Yesterday I went to Santiago for a baseball games with some buddies. Good time! Good baseball, nice stadium. Wasn't packed but got to see some Santiago cuties. Next time we'll stay the night and hang out. Also, Passions has reopened. Went in around 1:30 last night. A couple of cuties, apparently the rest were gone. I didn't inquire about the prices, maybe I'll reinvestigate tonight.
What's up all! Enjoying my last five days. Almost time to return to reality. I had good luck with the chicas. Lots of fun with the bartenders, knocked off a couple of new ones. Yesterday I went to Santiago for a baseball games with some buddies. Good time! Good baseball, nice stadium. Wasn't packed but got to see some Santiago cuties. Next time we'll stay the night and hang out. Also, Passions has reopened. Went in around 1:30 last night. A couple of cuties, apparently the rest were gone. I didn't inquire about the prices, maybe I'll reinvestigate tonight.Sounds like your trip went well, plus you enjoyed yourself away from Sosua. BTW, how did you get to Santiago? Your own transpo, or public transpo?
Sounds like your trip went well, plus you enjoyed yourself away from Sosua. BTW, how did you get to Santiago? Your own transpo, or public transpo?We chipped in and hired a driver who has a van. It was $100 total, round trip, split five ways. Plus we paid his way into the game. Most of the guys who went live here. They've got a system! We had a cooler with beer and rum. Hot dogs at the stadium were 40 pesos, a can of beer was 60. We bought two bottles of rum. I forget how much, but they only sell bottles. Good times!
Charles Pooter
01-08-14, 00:02
another that starts with an M, and a few others.Order of towns heading west is: Los Charamicos (actually a part of Sosua) , Sosua Abajo (ditto), La Union, Cangrejos, and Montellano. There are no other towns before Puerto Plata. There are also a few hamlets and bateys off the main road, probably better visited with a moto than a car. If you want to see a bit of local life in all its squalor, do drop in and buy the locals a few beers. But if you are hoping to find fresh and cheap talent you would probably be wasting your time. Anyone remotely interested in flogging their ass will already be aware of Sosua and will have an optimistic concept of prices. For a chica hunt you would be better off looking in Puerto Plata where you have much greater population concentrated within a smaller area. Spanish is a must in all these places.
Chicas met here may be more receptive and willing to come back to your spot (PP, Sosua etc ).Very true. Although many of the chicas one meets in Sosua are blase about travelling round the country, most of the population of these small towns rarely go anywhere. For a non-hardcore chica to travel from (say) San Juan to Sosua would be a great and perhaps frightening adventure, especially in the hands of a strange gringo.
Bellpepper
01-08-14, 00:18
What about the massage parlours in Sosua? Any recommendations?
I mean both regarding the quality of the massage and the quality of the happy ending?
Do they provide full service?
Thanks
Tempoecorto
01-08-14, 05:08
I think you are right in saying it is not so much of an incentive. You should not expect a lower cash price (or even better service) when you are handing over a gift. Do it for yourself or don't do it. Large in-kind payments that some guys (not me!) make during an extended stay might reduce your bill somewhat, but probably not dollar-for-dollar. Even then, you'd be well served to assume none of that counts toward the bill unless you discuss it with her in advance.
I'm less inclined to believe it "sets a positive vibe" and therefore makes it more likely you'll have a positive experience. Perhaps. But, in my experience, it is pretty easy to set a positive vibe with these girls. So I can't see the gifts doing much more on that front.
With that said, it seems reasonable to me that some girls do appreciate the gifts (though perhaps not as much as cash value). They ask if I have anymore for a sister or a friend. I always say "Solo para ti, mi amor!"The business is what it is. Can one expect professionalism out of uneducated, socially downtrodden people of Sosua and in many third world countries (if you are visiting say Germany or Australia where the business is legal, it might be different but your experience may very well be mechanical as well).
I visit for short stays. Almost never visiting Sosua so my experience might be radically different but, in my experience, a gift while definitely not necessary, is a part of the overall treatment of another person. I distinctly remember that during my first visit to Sosua / DR, in 2011, the women visiting me were pleasantly surprised since they did not expect such a gesture. Personally, I do not count beans: gift, price of meal or the actual cash payment. What I and I suspect many, are looking for, are genuine experiences and the DR has been a pleasant discovery for me. Even though as you had stated earlier, most are make-believe games. Enough said!
Bellpepper
01-08-14, 06:31
I have just been to Passion's. And I understand to some extent why Cubadave is so excited about it. The girls were really nice with a good attitude, better than the average girl at the strip.
The place was far from full but there were enough guests to create a good atmosphere. I understand what Cubadave means on his FB page when he says they keep a "low key" or something like that. But it's a funny way to put it when you talk about a brothel that actually sells sex. But yes, there was no nudity in public. Some girl made some symbolic moves around the pole but there was no striptease.
Anyway, I took a girl to a room for an hour and got the best sex for a long time with a working girl. We had an amuzing conversation and she was active in bed. She did not just lie on her back waiting for me to do the job. The BBBJ was fine. She used her techiques to make the sex last for a quite long time. It took some time for me to come but just enough to make it enjoyable.
Grandnash84
01-08-14, 06:36
I have just been to Passion's. And I understand to some extent why Cubadave is so excited about it. The girls were really nice with a good attitude, better than the average girl at the strip.
The place was far from full but there were enough guests to create a good atmosphere. I understand what Cubadave means on his FB page when he says they keep a "low key" or something like that. But it's a funny way to put it when you talk about a brothel that actually sells sex. But yes, there was no nudity in public. Some girl made some symbolic moves around the pole but there was no striptease.
Anyway, I took a girl to a room for an hour and got the best sex for a long time with a working girl. We had an amuzing conversation and she was active in bed. She did not just lie on her back waiting for me to do the job. The BBBJ was fine. She used her techiques to make the sex last for a quite long time. It took some time for me to come but just enough to make it enjoyable.Thanks for the report. Few questions. Were the prices the same? How many girls working? New talent or the same girls came back? Thanks
Bellpepper
01-08-14, 06:48
Thanks for the report. Few questions. Were the prices the same? How many girls working? New talent or the same girls came back? ThanksThis is my first visit to Sosua so I don't know the "old" girls and the old prices. But the girl I had sex with was new.
One hour in a room costs 2500 pesos. If you want to take the girl out from the place it costs 3500 pesos (I did not ask for how long time because I was not interested in this option).
A Presidente costs 120 pesos (but I assume that your question was not about the beer).
I think it was 15-20 girls there.
It's 3:06 in the am in Sosua and I just woke up I have a cold Presedente in my hand and I am putting on my clothes to go to the after hours. I need to take my tail back to sleep but, I really need to check out the late night talent. Wish me luck!
If i do crack myself one, it's off to Dulce Secreto. That always helps so, I dont have to watch and make sure she is running off with my stuff. Couldn't get a room at the safest place, Perla de Sosua because, they are full. Damn! Damn! Damn! But I will be in there Super Bowl.
Shout out to Sosua James! The Big Homie!
Just got this email from a highly experienced Thailand / AC monger that was with my team at BB's for a few days before heading out on his own for a few more days exploring in Sosua. Note to Jackson: Sorry about his frequent use of the "W" word. I know you don't like that. Geo.
Hope you guys got back ok. Here in the DR things are splendid, although, I do yearn for the warm embrace of Thailand. I say that because the women I have met in Sosua and Cabarete for the most part acted more like money hungry crack working girls than residents of a splendid service community. My first few days spent in Sosua were an exercise in logistics trying to figure out where to go and here is what I have discovered:
1. The best place to pick up is on the beach or while chilling over a drink on the main street.
A. Generally this should be done during the day from around 12ish to 5ish.
B. Always negotiate rate when picking up on the beach (I actually had my best experience on the beach although it was somewhat soured when I made the rookie mistake of not negotiating beforehand. The end result was the working girl asking for 4000 (can you believe it?). We settled on 2000 (which I paid in order to quell a growing headache and to reward a truly rewarding fuck). This was before I realized that Passions had reopened as "The Jungle" (with some of the best grilled wings and bar service at the place right next door). I went into the Jungle and found it pleasant and not really busy. It was Jan 7 and the place must have just reopened as I walked by a few days ago and it was closed. Anyway, had a Reanha look-alight with long back hair shaking her ass in front of me and realized I was a no-go (prob because I popped some V before the beach girl and was spent, although, was also sick of feeling like I was continually getting plaid). Anyway, she said the price was 2500 for an hour including a room and then quoted me 3000 if she came to my room in the morning before I left (the working girl).
2. The first girl in Sosua was a clock-watching dirty working girl who promissed to be so much more. But, I made the mistake of picking her up in one of the big dance places later in the night and paid the price. She actually called me an "animal" when I tried to fuck her for real (this from just wanting to bang her like any other chick). I'll call her the "porcelain working girl" from here on out.
A. The main clubs are loud and don't seem to have the same talent, although, there were a couple of little spinner Haitians that I didn't partake in.
3. On the day I left for Cabarete I had a delightful BJ experience with a girl working out of Hotel Cayena who drained me like a pro sans the deep throat.
4. Cabarate is more of a family joint although, there is play to be had.
A. At night the best place is probably one of the beach bars that I forget the name of (just look for the few single domincan working girls hanging out and you'll know it). The only draw back is the loud shitty music and the fact that the chick I picked up was another clock watching working girl who complained a bit that I wasn't a two pump chump (same girl also immediately requested I buy her a drink when I went back to the place to search out other options the next night).
B. There is also another upstairs place on the other side of the street from the beach called "Arriba" that has a few but, they are HARD looking and dark.
5. Two other places in Cabarete seem to be the "massage" places that have a diamond hanging out every once in a while (although, I did not get a chance to look into them) and a little working girl house down the alley to the left of the Arriba. Down there is a shack with 6 or so rooms with working girls in each. Only one (a tall skinny chick) seemed worthwhile but she was bangin and a willing fucker who accepted the local price of 1000 once I told her that my motoconcho driver "Daniel" said that was the price.
That about covers it: 2 lousy lays and 2 great fucks and a blow job in 5 days. Kind of sad and definitely no Thailand!
A. At night the best place is probably one of the beach bars that I forget the name of (just look for the few single domincan working girls hanging out and you'll know it). The only draw back is the loud shitty music and the fact that the chick I picked up was another clock watching working girl who complained a bit that I wasn't a two pump chump (same girl also immediately requested I buy her a drink when I went back to the place to search out other options the next night).
B. There is also another upstairs place on the other side of the street from the beach called "Arriba" that has a few but, they are hard looking and dark.
Could you please elaborate as to where these bars are located on the beach, how far the main entrance, etc. Were there other foreigners in these bars or just Dominicans, etc.
One hour in a room costs 2500 pesos. If you want to take the girl out from the place it costs 3500 pesos (I did not ask for how long time because I was not interested in this option).So about $60 hour in a casa and $81 to take a girl out.
Bellpepper
01-09-14, 01:43
What about the massage parlours in Sosua? Any recommendations?
I mean both regarding the quality of the massage and the quality of the happy ending?
Do they provide full service?
ThanksEvidently I had to find out myself. And the answer is yes.
Evidently I had to find out myself. And the answer is yes.So what did you find out.
Your in Sosua every female in the place is selling pussy.
Evidently I had to find out myself. And the answer is yes.
A. At night the best place is probably one of the beach bars that I forget the name of (just look for the few single domincan working girls hanging out and you'll know it). The only draw back is the loud shitty music and the fact that the chick I picked up was another clock watching working girl who complained a bit that I wasn't a two pump chump (same girl also immediately requested I buy her a drink when I went back to the place to search out other options the next night).
B. There is also another upstairs place on the other side of the street from the beach called "Arriba" that has a few but, they are hard looking and dark.
Could you please elaborate as to where these bars are located on the beach, how far the main entrance, etc. Were there other foreigners in these bars or just Dominicans, etc.He is talking about Cabarete
He is talking about CabareteYes, the 2nd half of his post that you've included was in Cabarete. The first half of his post was all Sosua. I was aware of his plans having talked it over with him at BB's where my wingmen and I gave him plenty of suggestions and overall told him why we are so fucking sick of Sosua's bullshit. He was warned and naturally had to experience the pain firsthand.
I enjoy Sosua 's and.
Ight life literally hundreds of willing young women. I have banged about 30 there and have had very few issues. I have found girls who are relatively new to the game to season pros. Most of them provide excellent service if you tee them up properly. I enjoy dancing and socializing with the girls a well. I work a stable of non pros but enjoy a bit of sport fucking. Sosua affords me a chance to fulfill my fantacies of many different types of young pretty girls.
Yes, the 2nd half of his post that you've included was in Cabarete. The first half of his post was all Sosua. I was aware of his plans having talked it over with him at BB's where my wingmen and I gave him plenty of suggestions and overall told him why we are so fucking sick of Sosua's bullshit. He was warned and naturally had to experience the pain firsthand.
I can see that the snippy, smug, and antagonistic vibe still resonates in here. Even after a year plus the same usual suspects continue to ruin a once witty and informative forum with their rude and pompous treatment of newbies and legit info-seekers. I apologize to you newbies who never got to see a truely informative forum, and a place that all were treated with respect and brotherly comradery. Unfortunately I see alot of the same idiots who ruined Sosua and this forum still boasting about screwing 3rd world prostitutes as if it were actually an achievement, and are incapable of just pointing you in the right fucken direction because this somehow empowers them. This of course is not directed at everyone, and there is still some class acts to be found here who are willing to help and do it for genuine reasons. The rest of you dickheads know who you are, so just STFU.
Azazel
Bellpepper
01-09-14, 16:22
. I apologize to you newbies who never got to see a truely informative forum, and a place that all were treated with respect and brotherly comradery. Unfortunately I see alot of the same idiots who ruined Sosua and this forum still boasting about screwing 3rd world prostitutes as if it were actually an achievement, and are incapable of just pointing you in the right fucken direction because this somehow empowers them. This of course is not directed at everyone, and there is still some class acts to be found here who are willing to help and do it for genuine reasons.
AzazelYes, it's a little peculiar when people boost about buying sex.
I think this is just fucking fascinating. 2 seemingly experienced mongers looking at the exact same 10 square blocks with 2 completely opposing views. Neither right or wrong as they are only opinions, just completely different!
I enjoy Sosua 's and.
Ight life literally hundreds of willing young women.
I gave him plenty of suggestions and overall told him why we are so fucking sick of Sosua's bullshit. He was warned and naturally had to experience the pain firsthand.
Mr Enternational
01-10-14, 01:02
I think this is just fucking fascinating. 2 seemingly experienced mongers looking at the exact same 10 square blocks with 2 completely opposing views. Neither right or wrong as they are only opinions, just completely different!
Just got this email from a highly experienced Thailand / AC monger that was with my team at BB's for a few days before heading out on his own for a few more days exploring in Sosua...Here in the DR things are splendid, although, I do yearn for the warm embrace of Thailand. I say that because the women I have met in Sosua and Cabarete for the most part acted more like money hungry crack working girls than residents of a splendid service community.The difference may be as you said, in experience. If Sosua and/or DR is the only place you know then it may reign supreme to you. But if you have other things to compare it to (besides back home) then that could account for the difference of opinion. As you may have noticed, when many people talk bad about it they are many times comparing it to other places they have been (Medellin, Rio, etc.) It's more of a case of one monger's idea that it's better than home/nothing, and another monger's idea that it's shit or subpar compared to other mongering destinations they have been to.
The difference may be as you said, in experience. If Sosua and/or DR is the only place you know then it may reign supreme to you. But if you have other things to compare it to (besides back home) then that could account for the difference of opinion.That's exactly what I was thinking. There is no replacement for experience. And, you can't miss what you never had. Hamburgers might be the greatest thing in the world, until you have some filet mignon.
I have not been to Rio or Thailand. I am not drown because the DR meets my needs. I prefer black malutto women with full asses. That is not common in Thailand. Now brazille is the capital of those two things but the cost is more then twice that of the DR and I do not speak Portugisse. The DR is cheap. Close and convenient. I acknowledge that there are better locals for somethings but for me the DR is an awesome option. I am paying $1100 for 6 days of bliss. I am a bit of a tight wad so the idea of getting good inexpensive pussy makes the deal that much sweeter. It is a choice. I choose to seriously enjoy the DR especially Sosua. By itself sure it can get old after 3 days but in consortium with other locals in the DR it is priceless. Downing Sosua to me is like being mad at a girl for not drinking all your leche. Hey she made you come.
That's exactly what I was thinking. There is no replacement for experience. And, you can't miss what you never had. Hamburgers might be the greatest thing in the world, until you have some filet mignon.
The DR is cheap. Close and convenient. I acknowledge that there are better locals for somethings but for me the DR is an awesome option.Nothing wrong with that! Not many people find what they are looking for.
PlatinumCastle
01-10-14, 21:46
ok i read the last few posts and then i was like i am done! seriously though, it is as everyone says, it's a matter of opinion. i have been gone for a while getting the adult entertainment company going. since i had to shut down a few years ago. some may remember me. some may be new, doesn't matter either way, i'm back and still talkin shit like i always do!
dr is the armpit of south america. if you haven't been anywhere else, that's your loss. women in dr are too dumb to know how to act like they have any essence or elegance about themselves, they will rob you without thinking twice about it, and i want some fuckin elegance and class in my life even if its just pussy! the same crack head ass bitches in dr are similar to me to the ones in the hood. we call them hoodrats! some are better than others but, dr doesn't compare to brazil, costa rica, columbia, thailand, philippines, italy, spain or any of the other places i am putting mansions and having the girls throw parties every month in. i don't mind dr bc i lived there for so long and i have roots there, but as far as women. that's not my first choice and it's closer to my last bc although i love pussy. i don't have to pay for it, so i am picky and if i do pay for it. i'm probably not fuckin the girls in sosua or puerta plata or cabarete at the clubs too much. there is some diamonds in the rough but for the most part. i take my ass to brazil and party like a rock star because i don't care about spending money on women. i love to spoil them, i have daughters and i believe in treating women good and spoiling them no matter what they decide to do for work. judging them isn't part of my make up.
i have the baddest bitches in the universe. not many of them are from dr. lol. they love to party and fuck and hang with cool ass peeps that pay them too. hahahaha we throwin the next tpc party in vegas. and i be in dr fuckin a few of my bad bitches there in a couple weeks. #team_tpc #the_platinum_caslte #thepurrfectcreation!
if you go to the site you will see all these women on there, planning, fuckin, camming, partying and inviting everyone they can to come and party with them in the mansions. last pick is the mansion in hollywood hills that we had a party at. we doing it big. for a little bit of money. tru story. see you on the dark side. because we don't like the light!
PlatinumCastle
01-10-14, 21:51
Too funny. Lmao, good shit man. I am not quite sure if I am a class act or not and I am not sure if I truly give a fuck, but your post is funny as shit man, good shit! To all the newbies. Just have fun and don't take this shit too seriously. It's only pussy! There are all types of personalities and mentalities out there that may not be on the same level as yours so if you run into one of the idiots that Azazel is talking about. Just keep it pushin and find a reliable source and keep them!
I can see that the snippy, smug, and antagonistic vibe still resonates in here. Even after a year plus the same usual suspects continue to ruin a once witty and informative forum with their rude and pompous treatment of newbies and legit info-seekers. I apologize to you newbies who never got to see a truely informative forum, and a place that all were treated with respect and brotherly comradery. Unfortunately I see alot of the same idiots who ruined Sosua and this forum still boasting about screwing 3rd world prostitutes as if it were actually an achievement, and are incapable of just pointing you in the right fucken direction because this somehow empowers them. This of course is not directed at everyone, and there is still some class acts to be found here who are willing to help and do it for genuine reasons. The rest of you dickheads know who you are, so just STFU.
Azazel
DR is the armpit of South America. Women in DR are too dumb to know how to act.That may or may not be true but surely they're smarter than the idiot who moved their country to South America.
Manizales911
01-10-14, 23:37
DR is the armpit of South America.
DR doesn't compare to Brazil, Costa Rica, Columbia, Thailand, Philippines, Italy, Spain or any of the other places I am putting Mansions and having the girls throw parties every month in.FYI Sir, The Dominican Republic is not in South America and it's spelled ColOmbia, not Columbia.
ok i read the last few posts and then i was like i am done! seriously though, it is as everyone says, it's a matter of opinion. i have been gone for a while getting the adult entertainment company going. since i had to shut down a few years ago. some may remember me. some may be new, doesn't matter either way, i'm back and still talkin shit like i always do!
dr is the armpit of south america. if you haven't been anywhere else, that's your loss. women in dr are too dumb to know how to act like they have any essence or elegance about themselves, they will rob you without thinking twice about it, and i want some fuckin elegance and class in my life even if its just pussy! the same crack head ass bitches in dr are similar to me to the ones in the hood. we call them hoodrats! some are better than others but, dr doesn't compare to brazil, costa rica, columbia, thailand, philippines, italy, spain or any of the other places i am putting mansions and having the girls throw parties every month in. i don't mind dr bc i lived there for so long and i have roots there, but as far as women. that's not my first choice and it's closer to my last bc although i love pussy. i don't have to pay for it, so i am picky and if i do pay for it. i'm probably not fuckin the girls in sosua or puerta plata or cabarete at the clubs too much. there is some diamonds in the rough but for the most part. i take my ass to brazil and party like a rock star because i don't care about spending money on women. i love to spoil them, i have daughters and i believe in treating women good and spoiling them no matter what they decide to do for work. judging them isn't part of my make up.
i have the baddest bitches in the universe. not many of them are from dr. lol. they love to party and fuck and hang with cool ass peeps that pay them too. hahahaha we throwin the next tpc party in vegas. and i be in dr fuckin a few of my bad bitches there in a couple weeks. #team_tpc #the_platinum_caslte #thepurrfectcreation!how does a person know if they're in the company of a self-promoting bs artist? start with the definitive word,"i." then count the number of times "i" is stated. once that's complete, focus your attention on the contradictions therein. contradictions like,". same crack head ass bitches in dr are similar to the ones in the hood. we call them hoodrats," versus."i believe in treating women good and spoiling them no matter what they decide to do for work. judging them isn't part of my make up." once you notice the back forth reasoning of an unsound mind you'll begin to notice a pattern. that pattern is called desperate insecurity. it's when the person decides that your activities, decisions and choices are just ok but his activities, decisions and choices are far superior to yours even if you derive benefit and satisfaction from them. the insecure mind cannot accept the "other" absent his own input and guidance. my advice is to avoid castles, especially platinum ones.
pura vida gentlemen. pura vida!
Too funny. Lmao, good shit man. I am not quite sure if I am a class act or not and I am not sure if I truly give a fuck, but your post is funny as shit man, good shit! To all the newbies. Just have fun and don't take this shit too seriously. It's only pussy! There are all types of personalities and mentalities out there that may not be on the same level as yours so if you run into one of the idiots that Azazel is talking about. Just keep it pushin and find a reliable source and keep them!Yes bro. That's it, it's just pussy. There's plenty of it to go around for everybody guys. These fools try to make this shit some Spanish novela. I don't give a fuck about some puta's kid's birthday party or the rest of your captain Save-a-Hoe story fuckers, just give me a legible account of the trip high points; tell me how much shit cost you, names of venues and their location with an occassional landmark is helpful, and if you post some pics of the noteworthy pussy you banged then you've completed the cycle.
Went to the opening night for the brazilian themed club next to passions. Some hot bartenders, but I didn't like the vibe. About 20 mins later cop cars started pulling up to Passions. We all started asking for vaso de plastico. Me and my drink got out of there! Not sure why it was raided. I had run into Cubadave earlier in the day. He said it might night be open long.
For a chica hunt you would be better off looking in Puerto Plata where you have much greater population concentrated within a smaller area. Spanish is a must in all these places.About Puerto Plata. Almost every visit to the La Sirena store on the malecon there are usually dozens of beautiful chicas / women shopping or working in that store. Aside from shopping, many chicas also come there to have lunch in the cafeteria upstairs. Most times they don't seem to make much eye contact like many of us are accustomed to when in Sosua, and seem quite focused on what they are there for. In Sosua, a dude who speaks some spanish can get by very easily. The chicas will work with a guy when he attempts to communicate, even when using a translator.
I would want to pursue some of the women I see in La Sirena, but sense they arent going to be as patient with a non fluent spanish speaking foreigner as a typical working girl. If I at least got more eye contact from them, I'd easily take it from there. But most I've seen in the store seem only focused on shopping / working / having lunch. I suppose talking to a foreigner publically can be perceived negatively within the PP community? Often times I see chicas from Sosua in La Sirena, and they are usually receptive or they'll at least acknowledge you. But I guess one should expect different with non pros?
I wonder if speaking fluent spanish is enough, especially when they know you arent dominican or figure you don't live there? Or perhaps it's somewhat embarrassing for some women to be "picked up" in public? Of course many are married or have boyfriends, so that could be the biggest factor? The other thing. With all of the women walking around in La Sirena, I never see dominican men trying to talk to or pick up women in the store. The most I see are dominican men staring at them when they go in or come out the store. And if they say anything it's usually just a cute remark, but not a serious attempt to strike up a convo or to meet them. They seem to be content with simply staring at women.
SavePros321
01-11-14, 15:23
Went to the opening night for the brazilian themed club next to passions. Some hot bartenders, but I didn't like the vibe. About 20 mins later cop cars started pulling up to Passions. We all started asking for vaso de plastico. Me and my drink got out of there! Not sure why it was raided. I had run into Cubadave earlier in the day. He said it might night be open long."Grand Opening","Grand Closing", lmao!
FYI Sir, The Dominican Republic is not in South America and it's spelled ColOmbia, not Columbia.Thanks Manizales. Who the fuck is this Platinum guy to show up on here invalidating our trip reports on this thread. We try to share good intel with members and we really don't need this garbage from the so-called "Castle." Dude, bring something of value to this thread other than telling us how superior you are. Sorry to hear about the "shut down" of the Castle. What happened there? I just got back from the DR with a dozen kills at BB's and FOD in 6 nights for less than $2G room / meals / drinks / etc included. I even came back with 9, 000 pesos and $400 USD unspent. For the record I despise all of these price gouging AI's pretending to "operate" out of rented quarters with their glammy websites promising hot chicas that aren't any better than the local talent one can find anywhere in the DR. Fucking ridiculous.
Word on the street is the National Police follow CubaDave on Youtube and Facebook, LOL.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
Both pieces are from today's Sosua News:
Only for a week the customers of La Passion could enjoy the ambience. Friday, January 10 at the end of the afternoon the club was visited by some officers and a commander of the National Police. The commander thought that not everything was conform legislation.
So La Passion was again closed indefinitely. Luckily no one was arrested. Hopefully the owner Peter can resolve the problem and open the doors again of La Passion.
* *
Last Sunday, Peter, the owner of the nightclub 'La Passion' reopened the doors after months of forced closure.
To not provoke anyone the re-opening happened in silence. The atmosphere and decor of the nightclub is transformed into Brazilian style. Very surprising. A visit to this well-appointed establishment is very rewarding. The nightclub CMC still remains closed. The owners are apparently still in a legal battle with government authorities. The completely refurbished Seacrets bar and nightclub, now called 'City Light', will be opened again during the Super Bowl (early February). At the City Lights bar this very popular sports event can be seen on large screens.
On my way home after a three wk trip in Sosua. I could do three more if I had the time! But duty, otherwise known as the J. O. B calls.
As far as the chicas go I had a great trip! No duds. I'm learning how to chat chicas up, if I don't feel the energy I keep moving. I did one new girl from D latins. A sexy Haitiana, I did her 3 more times. One hot light skinned dominicana from Santiago from rumbas. A good performer, a little older at 29. One hot flaca I meet on the street, good sex but a little mechanical. Plus the girl from San Francisco when she came back to Sosua. She was worth a repeat. After I came she romoved the condom and blew me! Wow! Porn star stuff! But she's a pro. As in a real hustler. I couldn't keep dealing with her. Other than that it was all former contacts and bartenders. The bartenders are a bit Of work, but worth it in my opinion. I've grown tired of the tiger sharks in Dlatins. I barely went there this trip. With the bartenders you get a little interaction with the sex, as opposed to a hard core pro who wants to finish you off and run back to Dlatins. I enjoyed it. Spanish and a little dancing helps. Get those meringue and bachata lessons fellas! The bartenders are getting got. I've seen it.
I kept the cost down to about $100 a day. Eating cheap at Ollie's, Ricky's, comedor economico, the fish store in charimicos across from caribe tours, the little spot next to Four roses, etc.
I stuck to my guns on 1500 for short time. If I wanted TLN I called a contact and offered 2 mil. I gave one favorite 3 mil. I got some cool amigas. Not 10s but not 5s either. Most 7 s and 8s. You can have fun and get laid in the DR for cheap. You don't have to spend a lot of money. But some guys like to "ball". I mostly did one girl a day.
I know a lot of expats, and I know a lot of regular visitors like myself. So I always had guys to hang with. I like Sosua. I like the beach, I like that I can walk everywhere, I like the comradarie with fellow expats and travelers. I did good this trip, I ran almost everyday, and drank a little less. A little. Sosua can burn you out if you don't pace yourself.
As I said I wish I could stay! But I'll be back in 6 wks! Life is good! Have fun out there!
DR is the armpit of South America. !I think you mean Latin America? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America
About Puerto Plata. Almost every visit to the La Sirena store on the malecon there are usually dozens of beautiful chicas / women shopping or working in that store. Aside from shopping, many chicas also come there to have lunch in the cafeteria upstairs. Most times they don't seem to make much eye contact like many of us are accustomed to when in Sosua, and seem quite focused on what they are there for. In Sosua, a dude who speaks some spanish can get by very easily. The chicas will work with a guy when he attempts to communicate, even when using a translator.
I would want to pursue some of the women I see in La Sirena, but sense they arent going to be as patient with a non fluent spanish speaking foreigner as a typical working girl. If I at least got more eye contact from them, I'd easily take it from there.
I wonder if speaking fluent spanish is enough, especially when they know you arent dominican or figure you don't live there? Speaking fluent Spanish is way more than enough. Assuming that you are not to ugly or obese and can speak some Spanish, you have nothing to lose by saying hello to women, and if they respond ask them what there doing etc. I think there are a lot of women in Puerto Plata open to meeting foreigners with money to spend on them and take them out, etc. Another source is through the Cupid Dating site but you need to have the time and patience to correspond. I hooked up with four girls thru this Site on my last trip and have three more lined up for my next trip in February. All of these girls live in the Puerto Plata area.
Speaking fluent Spanish is way more than enough.My boy is a blue eyed, blonde hair Cuban that lives in Miami. When I took him to the DR and girls heard him speak and his accent, they would stop dead in their tracks because they weren't used to seeing a guy that looked like him speak Spanish, let alone better than they do. He now has a girlfriend in Santiago, but it is always a trip watching how people in the DR react to him. His girl in Santiago is easily a 9 in looks.
I've dated girls in POP for years and would take them to places like the discos in Playa Dorada or invite them and their friends to come over and swim in the pool at Casa Linda, but I'm not in the DR enough to establish anything really substantive with them. Communication is definitely a key like it would be in any situation, especially if you don't want to come off as just a another horny Gringo who's just looking for a short-term piece of ass.
On the other hand, there are some that will roll with a Gringo that struggles with Spanish because some girls don't have much going on in their lives and a Gringo presents the promise of something different, if you want to play that role (could lead to a Western Union novio status if that is your thing). Being there often definitely helps that cause.
I got a friend that has been living in Sosua for over a year now. He is an Afro-American that spoke no Spanish, but his Spanish has improved some by living in Sosua. He has a steady girlfriend now, and I think she is even pregnant with his child. The last time I was in POP, I was hanging out with them and her ex and baby of her current child came into the pool hall where we were hanging out. The girl felt uncomfortable and wanted to leave. My friend didn't want to leave though because he was on some macho thing. We eventually left and the girl's friend told me that my friend's girl was taking some heat from her ex and baby's daddy, who was calling her a puta for dating a Gringo and she didn't want her ex and my friend to get into any kind of scuffle, especially since we were off the beaten path in their hood and every one in the pool hall knew the ex. Although this is a unique story, I share it only to point out that many of the girls have a history if they look good so you have to be prepared to deal with whatever. If you are on a short vacation, you may not want to deal with any drama. If you are there long-term, you might get used to the drama and roll with it like my friend in Sosua. POP and especially Sosua isn't that big. I have been fortunate to not have ever had that kind of drama with a girl's ex or anything like that, but I weed that stuff out very quickly and keep it movin and I am not there long enough for it to be a real issue. My friend's girl is a 7 or maybe an 8 in looks to some, with 1 kid, which isn't bad for a Gringo with limited Dominican Spanish living in Sosua.
On the other hand, there are some that will roll with a Gringo that struggles with Spanish because some girls don't have much going on in their lives and a Gringo presents the promise of something different.Exactly, there are plenty of girls in the DR who will go with a gringo that is semi-fluent in Spanish for this very reason. Additionally, a lot of these girls are non-pros so you can end up with some great experiences.
I've dated girls in POP for years and would take them to places like the discos in Playa Dorada or invite them and their friends to come over and swim in the pool at Casa Linda, but I'm not in the DR enough to establish anything really substantive with them. Communication is definitely a key like it would be in any situation, especially if you don't want to come off as just a another horny Gringo who's just looking for a short-term piece of ass.
On the other hand, there are some that will roll with a Gringo that struggles with Spanish because some girls don't have much going on in their lives and a Gringo presents the promise of something different, if you want to play that role (could lead to a Western Union novio status if that is your thing). Being there often definitely helps that cause.
I got a friend that has been living in Sosua for over a year now. He is an Afro-American that spoke no Spanish, but his Spanish has improved some by living in Sosua. He has a steady girlfriend now, and I think she is even pregnant with his child. Although this is a unique story, I share it only to point out that many of the girls have a history if they look good so you have to be prepared to deal with whatever. If you are on a short vacation, you may not want to deal with any drama. If you are there long-term, you might get used to the drama and roll with it like my friend in Sosua.In a nutshell, I would want to pursue women interested in going out on dates, but not necessarily looking for a serious relationship. Like you, I'm not there long enough to expect something substantive. Moreover, I value having variety at times, rather than being on lock down or exclusive. So pursuing an exclusive relationship is not an interest of mine.
Another consideration, is I want a working woman. Someone that is handling her business. But would appreciate some help, and not try to take advantage. This help is only when I am with her. But NO WU ever. Now when it comes to a womans history and her exes. I can see how that could be a significant factor as well. As a matter of fact, I expect her to have contact with men in her country, as well as dating other foreign men. If she can manage them all without involving me in any drama, I don't think that would be a problem. What I don't want is her having to lie to me. If everything is open and on the table, I could care less what or who she does when I'm not there. So my dilemma, isn't so much making contact with women in PP. The real issue is having all the pieces of my cake to enjoy. My gut tells me, I may get some things but not all. For instance. I might find a beautiful woman, but she may be interested only in a serious relationship, or she expects a man to assume a WU role, or she doesn't work at all. Maybe she's fine and all, but she comes with a shit load of baggage, or the woman can't accept an open and honest arrangement (she feels she has to lie to me.) , maybe she is uneducated and besides sex we have nothing in common. So my issue is, I may choose to search for women I want to hook up with, attempt to initiate something with them, only to find all of the things I want is almost impossible to achieve. After going through all of that, I'm certain I will resort back to feeling p4p is so much easier and hassle free.
What worked for me on my last trip was a combination of non-pros I met on the Dominican Cupid Dating Site and girls from the Strip. It was nice to have the variety as some nights it was something quick and dirty pulled from the Strip, or a sleepover with a dating site girl.
Speaking fluent Spanish is way more than enough. Assuming that you are not to ugly or obese and can speak some Spanish, you have nothing to lose by saying hello to women, and if they respond ask them what there doing etc. I think there are a lot of women in Puerto Plata open to meeting foreigners with money to spend on them and take them out, etc. Another source is through the Cupid Dating site but you need to have the time and patience to correspond. I hooked up with four girls thru this Site on my last trip and have three more lined up for my next trip in February. All of these girls live in the Puerto Plata area.Whether I meet them on Cupid or in person, I can see how one would need to have time and patience to correspond. Obviously, if we are in consistent contact, they will want to know when a guy is coming back again. For how long, and what his plans are. I would think, to not make time to see them, is like a slap in the face. Oft times, I may come back to the DR but have no interest in hooking up with those women on a particular trip. Or, maybe I would see them a day or two while there, but not to be exclusive with them my entire vacation. I can see how enough women would not want to deal with a guy who operates like that. And like I said previously, I don't like to have to resort to lying to these women about my plans when I come down there.
What worked for me on my last trip was a combination of non-pros I met on the Dominican Cupid Dating Site and girls from the Strip. It was nice to have the variety as some nights it was something quick and dirty pulled from the Strip, or a sleepover with a dating site girl.What are all of your dating site girls expectations before and after you've hooked up? Are they looking for a relationship or just to have a good time? Aside from the good times, are they also hoping you give them money for the time they spend with you? Will you now find yourself having to maintain correspondence with most of them even when you are back home?
My experience with Cupid is, most women want to maintain contact and correspond up until it's time for a dude to return. Most of that contact / correspondence is nothing more than saying hello every damn day, how are you, and eventually them telling you about the problems with them or family. There is no real exchange of communication. None I knew ever took time to really get to know a dude. And I don't think it would change much even if a dude was fluent with spanish. And then of course if they know when you are coming back they would expect you to want to see them again. But maybe you don't want to see them your next trip. Of course you arent obligated to, but it's one of those things a guy will have to deal with once he has a nice list of internet babes all expecting a dude to spend time with them.
Subconsciously, I think thats probably one reason I did not follow through with some of the DC contacts I had last December. I was quite content with the ones I met in Sosua last trip. And none were hardcore.
What worked for me on my last trip was a combination of non-pros I met on the Dominican Cupid Dating Site and girls from the Strip. It was nice to have the variety as some nights it was something quick and dirty pulled from the Strip, or a sleepover with a dating site girl.That sounds like a good balance. I did something similar with Amigos. Com back in the day. I haven't done the online thing in years because I meet so many girls just traveling around the island, but its a good way to set up some things in advance, especially if you don't have a lot of established contacts on the ground.
In a nutshell, I would want to pursue women interested in going out on dates, but not necessarily looking for a serious relationship. Another consideration, is I want a working woman. Someone that is handling her business.This sounds very doable if you put the time in. Between the online stuff and getting off of Pedro Clisante, you should be able to find this. There are a lot of chicas in the DR waiting for a caballero to take them out and show them a good time.
Mr Enternational
01-15-14, 04:06
What are all of your dating site girls expectations before and after you've hooked up? Are they looking for a relationship or just to have a good time? Aside from the good times, are they also hoping you give them money for the time they spend with you? Will you now find yourself having to maintain correspondence with most of them even when you are back home?
My experience with Cupid is, most women want to maintain contact and correspond up until it's time for a dude to return. Most of that contact / correspondence is nothing more than saying hello every damn day, how are you, and eventually them telling you about the problems with them or family. There is no real exchange of communication. None I knew ever took time to really get to know a dude. And I don't think it would change much even if a dude was fluent with spanish. And then of course if they know when you are coming back they would expect you to want to see them again. But maybe you don't want to see them your next trip. Of course you arent obligated to, but it's one of those things a guy will have to deal with once he has a nice list of internet babes all expecting a dude to spend time with them.
Subconsciously, I think thats probably one reason I did not follow through with some of the DC contacts I had last December. I was quite content with the ones I met in Sosua last trip. And none were hardcore.I never go online with the intention of just looking for someone to pump and dump. If I want pussy then I know where to find it. I just mainly look for friends. I like meeting chicks online with the intentions of going new places and doing new things. 9 times out of 10 the girl is going to want to fuck anyway. I don't know how money keeps getting drug into conversations about normal DR women (or normal any nationality women for that matter). I don't understand why guys feel they must pay women who aren't hookers. I read a lot of reports where even if a guy offers money after and the woman turns it down, then he still sneaks it into her purse or something. You wouldn't do it with the women back home, so I don't understand why they would do it in a foreign country. Maybe it helps them not feel guilty that they had sex with the woman. Women are people too and like to fuck just like men. All of them are not hookers and in it for the money no matter how poor they are.
Of all the chicks I have met online since my first time in DR (2005 or so) only one has hinted about money or buying her things. That was days after we fucked. I cut her off. When something adverse does happen and they tell me about it they don't expect me to send money or solve the problem. They just want to let me know what is going on in their life. Just like last year when my girl's sister was in an accident and almost died. She sent pictures of her laid out and bloody in the car and pictures of her in the hospital bed with a broken arm. But she didn't say anything like send money because we need to pay the hospital bill the way I see it happening with a lot of guys here.
But what is wrong with keeping contact with friends? It's not like it costs anything these days. Damn near everyone has Whats App so you don't have to pay for overseas calls anymore. Just send a couple of messages back and forth. I don't find it a burden to communicate with people after I have met them. If you just want to fuck someone and put them on the back burner until you want to fuck them again, then I guess it would be best to deal with the P4P in Sosua and leave normal chicks out of the mix. I have gone to DR plenty of times and not had the chance to get together with chicks that I know. That is life. Nobody takes it personal. There will be a next time.
I liked something that Orgasmico posted in the Cali, Colombia thread the other day because it mirrors my trips wherever I go. I usually hang out with several normal women and a lot of time I don't even get a chance for hookers.
So my trip was a lot of fun. I was in Cali for 8 days. As far as mongering, I hit 2 cases. Dr. Amor had about 30 girls in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Definitely a flavor there for all. I hit another smaller casa, of which I don't remember the name but I had a great time. BBBJ and the whole nine. In fact, I almost thought she was going to try to slip it in raw dog when she was on top but thankfully she put the jimmy on without me asking her to, LOL
Besides that, I pretty much just hung out with regular babes I met in various locations and spent a Colombian New Years Eve with a girl I met and her family.Out of 8 days he only got a chance for P4P two times. And that was probably because he just couldn't bear leaving the place without finding out about the P4P. He already had his hands full with normal Colombian women.
Whether I meet them on Cupid or in person, I can see how one would need to have time and patience to correspond. Obviously, if we are in consistent contact, they will want to know when a guy is coming back again. For how long, and what his plans are. I would think, to not make time to see them, is like a slap in the face. Oft times, I may come back to the DR but have no interest in hooking up with those women on a particular trip. Or, maybe I would see them a day or two while there, but not to be exclusive with them my entire vacation. I can see how enough women would not want to deal with a guy who operates like that. And like I said previously, I don't like to have to resort to lying to these women about my plans when I come down there.You do need time and patience to correspond with these girls but it is a good way to work on your Spanish. I have not lied to a single women on the dating site. After contacting them I make it very clear that I am in Sosua on vacation. After corresponding a few times I further tell them I am not looking for a wife or a girlfriend. I make this very clear and tell them I can help them out and even pose a hypothetical scenario where if we have chemistry together, I inquire as to how much money they want for their time. I only ask this question when they have confirmed that they understand what's up and lot of them have said " no problemo". I found a really nice one when I was down in December and she has not asked me to send her any money and we exchange texts every few days. With her I made it very clear what was up when we were together and always treated her like a girl friend versus a Puta. I plan on spending more time with her on my next trip in February. I currently have two new ones lined up for my return and they fully understand what the program is. There are women in the DR that will be with a guy that is upfront with them from the beginning, treats them well, and have chemistry with you. If I click with some of the new ones I plan on meeting, I'm going to have to get creative as to how to manage my leche between them all. A good problem to have!
I never go online with the intention of just looking for someone to pump and dump. If I want pussy then I know where to find it. I just mainly look for friends. I like meeting chicks online with the intentions of going new places and doing new things. 9 times out of 10 the girl is going to want to fuck anyway. I don't know how money keeps getting drug into conversations about normal DR women (or normal any nationality women for that matter). I don't understand why guys feel they must pay women who aren't hookers. I read a lot of reports where even if a guy offers money after and the woman turns it down, then he still sneaks it into her purse or something. You wouldn't do it with the women back home, so I don't understand why they would do it in a foreign country. Maybe it helps them not feel guilty that they had sex with the woman. Women are people too and like to fuck just like men. All of them are not hookers and in it for the money no matter how poor they are.E dealing with all types of women in the DR is definitely a YMMD issue. Certain factors pertaining to mongers abilities, needs, time contraints, and the type of women each connects with, are all factors that may yield different results for each monger.
"Normal" DR women can consist of all types of mentalities. The good, the bad and the ugly. Including women that expect a man to offer them money even if they don't ask. We all know the DR is primarily a male dominated society. So when it comes to women working, women in the DR arent exactly like the women in the states. We don't see DR women doing certain jobs like we see in abundance in the states. We don't see women owning and driving cars to the same degree like we do in the states. Men dominate certain jobs, that we seldom see DR women in those capacities. I don't believe DR women have welfare, or PA like in the states.
With that being said, it's not uncommon for DR women to have a greater propensity (than women in the states) to expect for men to take care of them. Not simply because they had sex, but because that typically is a mans role if he gets involved with a woman. Of course, DR culture has evolved a great deal where enough women have developed the "independent" mindset. But IMO the majority of women are normal women with modest incomes or no income at all. They will normally expect a man to provide support if he gets involved with her.
A good portion of the women guys encounter on the internet, the ones ready to have sex, they don't work, or have low paying jobs, or claim to be students. IMO when many guys offer money, it's not necessarily only to pay for sex. (although that is part of it ). The rest of it is simply looking at the womans circumstances, and realizing the woman really could use the money. This doesn't have to be about women. I know I have been aquainted with a few dominican men that were un or underemployed, and offered them something for their families. Obviously no fucking was involved, but I did it because it was a conscious decision based on me observing their circumstances. They were friends / aquaintances of mine.
However, many of these men as well as the women in the DR will initially refuse an offer because of pride, not because they don't want or need the offer. So when a dude slips money in a womans purse or forces some money into a dominican friends pocket / hand, it's done with the intent of letting them know it's okay. That they won't be judged.
Take women in the states. When women go out on dates, you get some who will offer to pay (their share, a tip or the whole bill) right. BUT, we all know most of them don't really want to pay. They are hoping the guy will say "no, I got it". Many dudes won't get a second date if he allows her to pay. IMO DR women are no different when it comes to their own expectations from men. Like AW, DR women may also expect a man to figure out what she needs, WITHOUT her having to ask for it. Just because a woman doesn't come right out and ask, doesn't mean she doesn't hope a man offers her help / assistance / gifts etc. Enough DR women sure drop enough hints. Guys know this. If they feel the need is legit, dudes usually respond accordingly. Now if that has never been certain guys experiences with DR women, I look at it as a case of YMMD.
I'm sure there are enough women who arent looking for a mans money, or needs the mans money. I think you shared an example or two of ladies you know. However these women seem to be the exception but not necessarily the rule of what many men are encountering on the regular in DR women. Especially with internet babes.
Enough DR women that have concerns of being offered money is mostly two fold. Not wanting to look like they need a handout, and their not wanting to be perceived as a puta for taking money from a man. So enough DR women have their own set of insecurities or cultural norms just as AW do in the states.
The way you may not get why some guys offer money to normal DR women, I am equally baffled to why enough guys offering money to unemployed or under employed women is sometimes perceived negatively or it's assumed it's only about paying the girl.
A lot of guys probably think that once you offer, you might open yourself up to a person who NOW looks for money / help / assistance / gifts from that point on. However, my belief is a large majority of women are always hoping or expecting a man to offer from day one. But they want the man to take the initiative. Once he initiates his 1st offer, thats when the women can take it from there. By directly asking for help / assistance, and sharing their problems. But it wasnt something that just popped in their heads after the 1st offer. The main problem with all of this is, most men probably do not want to be depended on, especially when they are not there. Mainly because more men have realized they arent the ONLY men these women are fucking nor are they the only men these women expect help$$$/assistance / gifts from. These are common issues in regards to dating outside of p4p (Sosua ).
I totally agree that in order to find certain types of women in the DR it takes time and patience. I get that. I realize that being fluent may make a world of difference in ones experience with normal women. I get that too. I get that it's okay to have friends you can keep in contact with on Whats app. IMO, when I really look at it. Most women I've met in the DR that I stay in contact with, the friendship is extremely different than the friendship I have with women friends I know in the states. The friendships built in the states is usually comprised of really having things in common, and really knowing them beyond just from discussing problems. These women really knowing who I am, and me knowing who they are. They know what I'm about, my family, I know the same etc. I don't see that level of friendship or connection happening with DR women. It's mostly very superficial. And therefore don't place that much value on staying in contact with them simply because we have a social medium.
Don't get me wrong. I have chica friends that I whatsapp with regularly. However I maintain contact as a means to an end. I can see them, set up dates / sleepovers when I return. Requests for help / assistance / gifts/$$$ is simply part of the experience one may encounter when staying in touch with DR women. I say may encounter, because I don't always get requests from all the DR women I know. In fact, many of the women I am in contact with now, used to RFM me when we 1st hooked up. And stopped when they realized I wasnt budging. They didn't write me off completely because I was still an asset to them once I was with them in their country. Others wrote me off the moment that I refused or failed to honor their requests. So I kinda stick with those that stuck with me. They are always welcome to get all they can from some other dude. I wrote a book, I know.
You do need time and patience to correspond with these girls but it is a good way to work on your Spanish. I have not lied to a single women on the dating site. After contacting them I make it very clear that I am in Sosua on vacation. After corresponding a few times I further tell them I am not looking for a wife or a girlfriend. I make this very clear and tell them I can help them out and even pose a hypothetical scenario where if we have chemistry together, I inquire as to how much money they want for their time. I only ask this question when they have confirmed that they understand what's up and lot of them have said " no problemo". I found a really nice one when I was down in December and she has not asked me to send her any money and we exchange texts every few days. With her I made it very clear what was up when we were together and always treated her like a girl friend versus a Puta. I plan on spending more time with her on my next trip in February. I currently have two new ones lined up for my return and they fully understand what the program is. There are women in the DR that will be with a guy that is upfront with them from the beginning, treats them well, and have chemistry with you. If I click with some of the new ones I plan on meeting, I'm going to have to get creative as to how to manage my leche between them all. A good problem to have!I think being clear and up front makes sense. The idea is to mitigate any misunderstandings later, and feeling free to proceed with the woman with less problems.
I tend to believe there are an abundance of women who are already prepared to roll the way you described. They already have our understanding. They just need to know what type of man is in front of them, and what he wants. In other words, a woman will adapt to whatever situation / man she has in front of her. If he is aware and strong she will adapt to that. If he is weak or unaware, he will be treated accordingly. However an important factor is, the test of time. Any woman can claim to understand whatever we present to them. But time dealing with them is the test that will reveal if they will CONSISTENTLY roll according to our supposed mutual understanding. Like women in the states. You can tell a woman you don't want a serious relationship. She'll appear to accept that. But sometime down the road, she may flip and claim she wants a relationship. The guy will be asking her, but I thought we had an understanding? Whereas the woman will say that was then, this is how I feel now.
My experience with DR women, including Cupid women is similar. They will agree to anything if it will help them get their foot in the door. Sometime down the road, you may experience them telling you about their problems, and more specifically directly asking for $$$ with a problem. Many don't grasp that the guy not being there with her may be a problem for that guy. All they know is they want the guy to respond to their dilemma (real or false ). In enough instances, it's a test to see how a dude handles the request. Even if she confirmed a prior understanding.
In general, I would not be impressed with any woman that claims to understand my concerns, or who hasnt asked for money yet. If a dude puts a woman on notice that those are his concerns, a man should expect a woman to potentially adjust her behavior so as to appear like she is not like those other women. Thats why I say the test of time is very important. But women have proven that they can assume a false role for decades with men (marriage, but never really loved the man) , in order to achieve certain goals (house, kids, being taken care of etc ). So I don't put much stock into women claiming to agree with my terms. Overall, it's up to me to stick to my guns whether or not a woman reveals to me a different side or we no longer have a mutual understanding.
You do need time and patience to correspond with these girls but it is a good way to work on your Spanish.
I only ask this question when they have confirmed that they understand what's up and lot of them have said " no problemo".I have yet to hear any Spanish speaker say "no problemo". Aside from considerations of grammar,"problemo" is not even a Spanish word.
I have yet to hear any Spanish speaker say "no problemo". Aside from considerations of grammar,"problemo" is not even a Spanish word.Correct but the word,"problema" ending with the letter "a" is indeed a Spanish word.
Correct but the word,"problema" ending with the letter "a" is indeed a Spanish word.True, but a Dominican person would probably say "no hay problema" or possibly "no es problema" or "ningun problema" or "sin problema" to indicate being OK with something. To say "no problem" as a response to "thanks", they might say "de nada" (= "its nothing") or "no es nada".
At used car lots you might see "no credito, no problema" which means what you thought it did.
"No problemo" is actually a slang English phrase, presumably based on Spanish, as a kind of pretend Spanish way of saying "No problem", but the only language that has the word "problemo" is Esperanto. There is a pedantic reason for this, but I won't go into it here.
True, but a Dominican person would probably say "no hay problema" or possibly "no es problema" or "ningun problema" or "sin problema" to indicate being OK with something. To say "no problem" as a response to "thanks", they might say "de nada" (= "its nothing") or "no es nada".
At used car lots you might see "no credito, no problema" which means what you thought it did.
"No problemo" is actually a slang English phrase, presumably based on Spanish, as a kind of pretend Spanish way of saying "No problem", but the only language that has the word "problemo" is Esperanto. There is a pedantic reason for this, but I won't go into it here.In looking up the word "problem" in my Spanish dictionary your are correct. I am still learning the Spanish language and the translation on my part was I used a "o" versus an "a" at the end of the word. The girls that responded to me indicated using the word problem and did not use ningun (no-way) , de-nada (your welcome) , or sin (without) in their responses.
Thanks for correcting me!
Tempoecorto
01-16-14, 02:08
but the only language that has the word "problemo" is Esperanto. There is a pedantic reason for this, but I won't go into it here.Esperanto, really? Interesting. The word problema ending with an "a" and still being of masculine gender. I am told is because of its Greek provenience. Such words used to screw me up regularly as in my mind, anything ending with an a was automatically of feminine gender. It is seriously difficult, coming from English for example where neuter is a very sensible option, to discover that a table (mesa) is a female and so forth.
Sosua the weekend after the first. We rented a car from faith rental car. It ran us $35 a day with insurance. We took the new highway to Sosua from the airport. After you pass the toll heading to Santo Domingo, make your first immediate right about 400 hundred feet from passing the toll. Follow that road until the next road on your right. It should be a sign that says Samana. Its about an hour to an hour and 25 stretch headed up toward North Coast the north coast. Take a right when the road ends. It doesn't get tricky until Nagua however if you pay attention and follow the signs you will be ok. Just remembered as long as the water is close to your right you are okay. The ride took us a total of 3 hours and 10 minutes. We arrived and went to Casa Angella. Once again my hotel was booked to captivity. I was told that with no other rooms in Sosua. I was thinking about heading to Puerto Plata and maybe finding a rooms but as usual I went around the corner to hotel Europa and they had room for all 4 of us. I call Friday night in Sosua NBG. Nothing But a bunch of Guys. I was almost shock with the amount of guys to women in Sosua. At one time I looked around and I was surrounded by guys and at 1:30 in the morning. I was like this cannot be the Sosua I've learned to love. Fresh off 2 holidays I would think this place will be packed with single moms. I settled with a pretty older chica who did her job in the bed. She show me she was grateful I picked her out of the muck younger girls, however I was not impressed with the selection.
Sosua the weekend after the first. We rented a car from faith rental car. It ran us $35 a day with insurance. We took the new highway to Sosua from the airport. After you pass the toll heading to Santo Domingo, make your first immediate right about 400 hundred feet from passing the toll. Follow that road until the next road on your right. It should be a sign that says Samana. Its about an hour to an hour and 25 stretch headed up toward North Coast the north coast. Take a right when the road ends. It doesn't get tricky until Nagua however if you pay attention and follow the signs you will be ok. Just remembered as long as the water is close to your right you are okay. The ride took us a total of 3 hours and 10 minutes. We arrived and went to Casa Angella. Once again my hotel was booked to captivity. I was told that with no other rooms in Sosua. I was thinking about heading to Puerto Plata and maybe finding a rooms but as usual I went around the corner to hotel Europa and they had room for all 4 of us. I call Friday night in Sosua NBG. Nothing But a bunch of Guys. I was almost shock with the amount of guys to women in Sosua. At one time I looked around and I was surrounded by guys and at 1:30 in the morning. I was like this cannot be the Sosua I've learned to love. Fresh off 2 holidays I would think this place will be packed with single moms. I settled with a pretty older chica who did her job in the bed. She show me she was grateful I picked her out of the muck younger girls, however I was not impressed with the selection.Your caption reads Jan 3 Sosua. I would think that that would be one of the worst times to travel to Sosua looking for an abundance of talent. IMO, thats the time when most chicas are back home with their families enjoying the fruit of their labor. I sincerely expect things to change at the end of the month, as we near Super Bowl week. Thats the time chicas come out of the woodwork to descend on Sosua once again to make that money. On the flip side though, I'd also expect a lot more mongers than previous SBW because more guys are learning how much fun it is during that time of the year in Sosua. Personally I have no concerns whatsoever about whether or not I'll find my own dimes. I'm sure there will probably be fresh talent that has never been to Sosua before. Word of mouth travels fast through the CCN (chica Comm network ). Plus enough guys have regulars they keep in contact with. Which might be a necessity because I'm sure enough scammers will also be on hand.
Grownman you mean take a left when the road ends, not a right. That left will take you down the coast past Nagua, Gaspar Hernandez, Cabarette, and then Sosua.
Grownman you mean take a left when the road ends, not a right. That left will take you down the coast past Nagua, Gaspar Hernandez, Cabarette, and then Sosua.Ty for the correction
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1520341]Your caption reads Jan 3 Sosua. I would think that that would be one of the worst times to travel to Sosua looking for an abundance of talent. IMO, thats the time when most chicas are back home with their families enjoying the fruit of their labor. I sincerely expect things to change at the end of the month, as we near Super Bowl week. Thats the time chicas come out of the woodwork to descend on Sosua once again to make that money.
You are right for Friday I really didn't really go for Sosua this round. I was suppose to meet my man Abr Mainline in BC, but he had last minute drama. I hope everything works out for you Abr.
Esperanto, really? Interesting. The word problema ending with an "a" and still being of masculine gender. I am told is because of its Greek provenience. Such words used to screw me up regularly as in my mind, anything ending with an a was automatically of feminine gender. It is seriously difficult, coming from English for example where neuter is a very sensible option, to discover that a table (mesa) is a female and so forth.There is a class of nouns in Spanish that end in.a that have masculine gender. They are not very numerous, but they are very common so one needs to know them. For example I can think of agua, problema, mapa, programa, clima, idioma, dia, yoga, gorila, sofa, taxista, policia, dentista, doctora, Papa (= Pope).
Adding an 'O' to an English word to make a Spanish word occasionally works, for example rapid, crocodil (e) , antibiotic, but is not very reliable. Some words are the same in both languages, such as radio, libido, polio.
Tempoecorto
01-17-14, 20:24
There is a class of nouns in Spanish that end in "A" that have masculine gender. They are not very numerous, but they are very common so one needs to know them. For example I can think of agua, problema, mapa, programa, clima, idioma, dia, yoga, gorila, sofa, taxista, policia, dentista, doctora, Papa (= Pope).
Adding an 'O' to an English word to make a Spanish word occasionally works, for example rapid, crocodil (e) , antibiotic, but is not very reliable. Some words are the same in both languages, such as radio, libido, polio.Agua? El agua? I did not know that. Also because the agua starts with a vowel and I thought it would be something like L'agua! Doctora too I thought is a female doctor (as against el doctor) so "la doctora".
Let me add "turista" to that venerable list of yours.
Charles Pooter
01-17-14, 21:45
There is a class of nouns in Spanish that end in "a" that have masculine gender. For example I can think of agua .Wrong. "Agua" is feminine, as in "agua tepida" (tepid water) or "agua negra" (waste water or sewage: actually the name of a barrio in Puerto Plata. Must be an uphill task for a realtor to sell a house located there!)
There is a grammatical rule that says that if a feminine word begins with "a" you use the masculine article in order the avoid pronouncing two "a"s in sequence, which would be alien to Spanish pronunciation, although not a problem for native English speakers.
For example I can think of ... problema, mapa, programa, clima, idioma, dia, yoga, gorila, sofa, taxista, policia, dentista, doctora, Papa (= Pope).Most of the rest are imports from Ancient Greek during the Renaissance or more recent imports from non-European languages like "yoga".
"Idiota" is an example from Greek. When I call my (Haitian) girlfriend "idiota" she responds by calling me "idioto", which just make her look even dumber. (Incidentally,"idiota" is really offensive here and you should be careful using it playfully as we do in the First World).
As Frannie has shown, many professions end in "a" regardless of the gender of the job holder, like "secretaria".
Wrong."Agua" is feminine, as in "agua tepida" (tepid water) or "agua negra" (waste water or sewage: actually the name of a barrio in Puerto Plata. Must be an uphill task for a realtor to sell a house located there!)
There is a grammatical rule that says that if a feminine word begins with "a" you use the masculine article in order the avoid pronouncing two "a"s in sequence, which would be alien to Spanish pronunciation although not a problem for native English speakers.
Most of the rest are imports from Ancient Greek during the Renaissance or more recent imports from non-European languages like "yoga".
"Idiota" is an example from Greek. When I call my (Haitian) girlfriend "idiota" she responds by calling me "idioto", which just make her look even dumber. (Incidentally,"idiota" is really offensive here and you should be careful using it playfully as we do in the First World).
As Frannie has shown, many professions end in "a" regardless of the gender of the job holder, like "secretaria".I started all this when I mistakenly spelled "problem" wrong in Spanish. Learning the Spanish language is important but only so much at a time. How about a juicy trip report from someone on the ground. I promise to post some trip reports when I return in February "No Problema".
Tempoecorto
01-17-14, 21:57
"Idiota" is an example from Greek. When I call my (Haitian) girlfriend "idiota" she responds by calling me "idioto", which just make her look even dumber. (Incidentally,"idiota" is really offensive here and you should be careful using it playfully as we do in the First World).Cracked up with "Idioto"! I used the word "animal" once (transliteration from "it is a different animal altogether" and so I thought an entirely harmless word) during written conversation. Was I bloody wrong?
Charles Pooter
01-17-14, 21:58
It is seriously difficult, coming from English for example where neuter is a very sensible option.You should take up Haitian Kreyol. No gender, no plural endings, no conjugation of verbs, only one irregular verb, no declension of nouns, no agreement of adjectives, no inconsistencies in pronunciation, same pronoun used for nominative, accusative, possession, interrogative, etc, along with many other logical simplifications.
Actually, English is one of the few exceptions in Europe in not having gender, along with Finnish. One of the very few "learner friendly" things about it. Gender in language is a pain in the ass and serves no useful purpose whatsover. In real life, however, it does have its uses.
Wrong. "Agua" is feminine, as in "agua tepida" (tepid water) or "agua negra" (waste water or sewage: actually the name of a barrio in Puerto Plata. Must be an uphill task for a realtor to sell a house located there!)Thanks for pointing out that el agua is a lady noun.
Like selling a home in Intercourse, Pennsylvania. Fucked if you do, and screwed if you don't, though mains sewerage could be a selling point in Puerto Plata.
Tempoecorto
01-18-14, 05:22
You should take up Haitian Kreyol. No gender, no plural endings, no conjugation of verbs, only one irregular verb, no declension of nouns, no agreement of adjectives, no inconsistencies in pronunciation, same pronoun used for nominative, accusative, possession, interrogative, etc, along with many other logical simplifications.
Actually, English is one of the few exceptions in Europe in not having gender, along with Finnish. One of the very few "learner friendly" things about it. Gender in language is a pain in the ass and serves no useful purpose whatsover. In real life, however, it does have its uses.Never knew about Finnish. Thanks. But English is extremely user friendly from my perspective also for other reasons. Just think of the six forms of verb conjugations in every damn tense in the romance languages, taxing the memory not to speak of the subjunctives and conditional.
On Creole, I would but there are two catches:
1. I am not particularly attracted to Haitian women even though I love their history. The first liberated black nation etc.
2. Their economy, which translates to not much of lateral value other than chasing women and on that see point 1.
Couple of years back, I was trying to learn Persian, which is similar to one of the languages I spoke in India (Persian was the court language for the Mughal empire) but the script (Arabic) take an enormous amount of time and then going to Iran, in search of women is probably not such a bright idea, this day and time. Spanish, to my cost-benefit analysis sensitive mind, has this enormous leverage from that perspective. Of course I do not know if the Latin American women are equally open to older males as the DR women seem to be. On verra!
Tempoecorto
01-18-14, 05:30
Thanks for pointing out that el agua is a lady noun.
Like selling a home in Intercourse, Pennsylvania. Fucked if you do, and screwed if you don't, though mains sewerage could be a selling point in Puerto Plata.Jesus! I learned something, it is indeed El agua even though agua per se is feminine. What is confusing to me personally is that in Italian, it is la acqua or more commonly, l'acqua which is what I thought would be the case here in Spanish as well. Wrong!
Saturday NBA. I was suspecting Saturday night to be the same as Friday night but the memo had gotten out. Sosua was in full swing again. It was nothing but sexy asses everywhere. Saturday was the Sosua I remembered. The selection was hard. I ended up with a sexy Pro who read me like a book. This chica knew just what to say to me and how to say it at first. She said she didn't drink and didn't smoke anything but marijuana. My type of chica. She must have been feeling herself when I chose to leave with her. I lasted till about 4 o'clock in the morning before I made her my selection. The fellas and I took the young ladies to get something to eat. I really didn't like this move but I was outnumbered. It was Fresh, Justice, E and myself. Fresh who is a very choosy lover. I've never seen a girl pick him up. His first election he thought could have been a guy at first. Our gaydar is always on extra sencetive alert in Sosua. Especially since the strong presence of drags queens in the area. I told him that that wasn't a girl she was a woman. I was right and he was kicking himself for losing her to another guy. My ATM card did not work so all I had was 1200 pesos. I borrowed $60 from E until the morning. We went to a place serving tacos up from the club. All of a sudden my all natural chica ordered a Presidente. I'm like damn I thought she didn't drink. Justice was in another world with his chica. Fresh chica ordered something. New guys please pay attention.
I question her on what did she order. She looked at me and said she didn't know. Fresh wasn't paying attention so I asked her again pointing at the menu she said she didn't know. I am now making an issue of this but Fresh was calming his girl down because he saw she was getting upset and about to cry. He told her don't worry about it he has the order. My chica was trying to make excuses for her which really pisses me off. Nothing on the menu was over 300 pesos. All of a sudden E comes back from taking a leak around the corner and I explained the situation to him. E is like the neutralizer of situations. He asked her what did she order again she couldn't say. Then he warn us that the waitress was a crackhead who was the wife of the owner. He went right up to the guy fixing the food and asks what did she order. Pork chops! That shits not even on the menu. Fresh said its no problem he had it. He has his eyes on his chica and that's all that matters to him. The waitress came out with some very day old pork chops and fries. It was enough for 3 plates. That shit was tougher than leather as my chica tried to play it off by attempting to eat help her eat it. 600 pesos. I know game when I see was it. Fresh chica didn't even finish a fourth of the pork chop on her plate. I paid 450 pesos for me and my chicas dinner.
On way to our room my chica asked for another el Presidente. I had to get some rolling paper anyway. My one leg friend Pamela had given me enough weed in Boca Chica to last me for 2 days. No Mr E I haven't fucked her. I have given her a few outfit and she always gives me something in return. We both decided not to have sex with each other rathan keep it cool. We stopped to the store for rolling paper. I told her I wanted a blunt but she said she could roll the paper. Then she asked me to buy her some cigarettes. Yep she conned me. So much for Miss all natural. My instinct told me to kick her ass to the curb but she did buy me some bottle water earlier when she asked me did I want something to drink. And she paid for our motorscooter ride because she didn't want to walk anymore the crowd was gone. We got back to the room I got out the weed she put. It in the paper and gave it to me to roll. She couldn't roll. Man I was so upset. I was down to 300 pesos. I had to go 3 doors down to E and have him roll it for me. I had G keep an eye on her while I was out the room. We came back enjoyed Dominican finest homegrown dirt weed. I couldn't complain. Then she got all business on me. I had 3 twenties and 300 pesos on me. I gave her 2 20 and 300 pesos and she started bitching and complaining. Not knowingly I had put the money in her hand. She was talking all kinds of shit. Saying if she didn't like me she wouldn't do nothing. I reminded her about the cigarettes and the breafest. Of course that was nothing. I reminded she that she came at me and I had something already planned. My regular afternoon snack chica was blowning up my phone to come back and spend the night. 21, no kids, a squirter, and 1500 pesos. I told her to give me the money back and she went into shock. I stood my ground and she complied. I put the money on the dresser and said when we finish you can have it. Oddly she smiled and respected that. Then she told me I am NOT getting a back massage because the money was too low. I told her if she is good I will give her a gift. She told me she didn't want a gift. I must say to pussy was good. She let me have my way with her. BBBJ for a good 15 minutes. She rode me like a champ. We finished with 10 minutes of hard core doggie! She kept that ass moving. When we were done she went into the bathroom to take a shower. I laid out several outfits on the bed when she came out. She came out and went nuts.
I thought I would have to punch her in the fucking mouth. She couldn't stop begging for more clothes. I told she am saving the other outfits for the chica that was coming over to massage my back in the morning. I gave her an extra shirt besides the outfit she picked just so she could shut the fuck up. Then she goes to light her cigarettes. I told her she would have to do that on the balcony and she said she was leaving. She left and caught me slipping. I didn't see her ass cuff my weed before she left. I was so mad I got played. Had to charge that went to the game. Back to BC tomorrow for Sunday at the beach
Knowing when to cut bait is not easy. You are hoping that she is not B. S. Ing but the bad ones show their true selves it come out.
You handled it well. When get a bad you have to make the best if it.
Rl down because he saw she was getting upset and about to cry. He told her don't worry about it he has the order. My chica was trying to make excuses for her which really pisses me off. Nothing on the menu was over 300 pesos. All of a sudden E comes back from taking a leak around the corner and I explained the situation to him. E is like the neutralizer of situations. He asked her what did she order again she couldn't say. Then he warn us that the waitress was a crackhead who was the wife of the owner. He went right up to the guy fixing the food and asks what did she order. Pork chops! That shits not even on the menu. Fresh said its no problem he had it. He has his eyes on his chica and that's all that matters to him. The waitress came out with some very day old pork chops and fries. It was enough for 3 plates. That shit was tougher than leather as my chica tried to play it off by attempting to eat help her eat it. 600 pesos. I know game when I see was it. Fresh chica didn't even finish a fourth of the pork chop on her plate. I paid 450 pesos for me and my chicas dinner.
On way to our room my chica asked for another el Presidente. I had to get some rolling paper anyway. My one leg friend Pamela had given me enough weed in Boca Chica to last me for 2 days. No Mr E I haven't fucked her. I have given her a few outfit and she always gives me something in return. We both decided not to have sex with each other rathan keep it cool. We stopped to the store for rolling paper. I told her I wanted a blunt but she said she could roll the paper. Then she asked me to buy her some cigarettes. Yep she conned me. So much for Miss all natural. My instinct told me to kick her ass to the curb but she did buy me some bottle water earlier when she asked me did I want something to drink. And she paid for our motorscooter ride because she didn't want to walk anymore the crowd was gone. We got back to the room I got out the weed she put. It in the paper and gave it to me to roll. She couldn't roll. Man I was so upset. I was down to 300 pesos. I had to go 3 doors down to E and have him roll it for me. I had G keep an eye on her while I was out the room. We came back enjoyed Dominican finest homegrown dirt weed. I couldn't complain. Then she got all business on me. I had 3 twenties and 300 pesos on me. I gave her 2 20 and 300 pesos and she started bitching and complaining. Not knowingly I had put the money in her hand. She was talking all kinds of shit. Saying if she didn't like me she wouldn't do nothing. I reminded her about the cigarettes and the breafest. Of course that was nothing. I reminded she that she came at me and I had something already planned. My regular afternoon snack chica was blowning up my phone to come back and spend the night. 21, no kids, a squirter, and 1500 pesos. I told her to give me the money back and she went into shock. I stood my ground and she complied. I put the money on the dresser and said when we finish you can have it. Oddly she smiled and respected that. Then she told me I am NOT getting a back massage because the money was too low. I told her if she is good I will give her a gift. She told me she didn't want a gift. I must say to pussy was good. She let me have my way with her. BBBJ for a good 15 minutes. She rode me like a champ. We finished with 10 minutes of hard core doggie! She kept that ass moving. When we were done she went into the bathroom to take a shower. I laid out several outfits on the bed when she came out. She came out and went nuts.
I thought I would have to punch her in the fucking mouth. She couldn't stop begging for more clothes. I told she am saving the other outfits for the chica that was coming over to massage my back in the morning. I gave her an extra shirt besides the outfit she picked just so she could shut the fuck up. Then she goes to light her cigarettes. I told her she would have to do that on the balcony and she said she was leaving. She left and caught me slipping. I didn't see her ass cuff my weed before she left. I was so mad I got played. Had to charge that went to the game. Back to BC tomorrow for Sunday at the beach[/QUOTE]
Hey Grownman,
Its time for you to start acting like a grown man. I'm going to be a little hard here but its because I think you are messing up and I don't want to see you get yourself in a jam. But I do like your reporting.
You being the leader of the group, means you should be the most responsible especially when you are also the most experienced. Your boys are happy to be on a vacation and enjoying the lovely Latinas. They are thinking with their dicks not their brains. Say "no' sometimes when they are fucking up bro, because when they get in a jam they are going to blame you for not looking out for them. Your group is like wild horses running through Sosua. I know you are making memories to laugh about later, but when you end up in a Dominican jail there won't be any laughing. Tighten up bro please.
The weed thing worries me the most because you are flagrant with it. Any Dominican that says "weed" you appear to be down with. Listen! Trust no one with that, it has serious consequences. My cousin got busted in Cabarette on our first trip. He snuck off with some Dominican dude and 30 minutes after he returned the police ran up on us with guns drawn. I will never forget the look on his face as the police were taking him away. It was like his worst nightmare had happened. First they wanted 10k use, then 5k to get him out of jail. His Mother was blaming me for not watching out for him. Its funny how family deserts you when they have to come up with thousands. We took him food to the POP jail and he was a defeated man. My cousin is 6'4, 220 pounds and a bad MF, but in jail he was a baby. We paid half and his family paid half and he was released. He hasn't been back since and the family never talks about that episode. Grownman, you and your boys could experience this same treatment if you don't slow down. I don't want you in that jam bro. If you have to smoke weed, have one person that you only deal with when buying, and never turn the girls your banging on to it. The less people you know the better. OH! And keep 5k in a bank account in case of an emergency.
I don't understand guys who take Dominican girls out to eat. Bro, just take them to the Dominican chicken stand on the street and let them get a 200p plate of chicken, beans and rice. You are wasting money if you think they have the same taste in food that we have. They don't understand fine cuisine.
And please follow your tell signs when dealing with chicas. You should be a pro at this by now. You said the girl "Read you like a book" and you still took her. She said she didn't drink or smoke but smokes weed. How many girls do you know that smoke weed and don't drink? And you waited till 4am to finally make your selection, she probably had cum dripping out her ass and pussy by that time.
One last thing bro, stop with the outfits for girls you just met. It will make the hardcore girls think you are soft and they will home-in on there mark. They might even get mad if your with another girl and tell the cops you have weed. Save the clothes for special chic as you plan to see the next trip.
I'm not trying to be hard on you bro, just food for thought. Us veterans will tell you the good and bad if they want you to succeed. I'm in your corner but tighten up a little please. The vets told me my mistakes and I didn't always listen. But over time when I think back on it I say"damn I get it now".
The Mind Bender
01-18-14, 20:22
I thought I would have to punch her in the fucking mouth. She couldn't stop begging for more clothes. I didn't see her ass cuff my weed before she left. I was so mad I got played. Had to charge that went to the game. Back to BC tomorrow for Sunday at the beachI'm wary of any chica who asks for tangibles (beer, food. Etc) before we even get to my room. Putas like that will take and take with no consideration and are most likely to steal from you.
2014 rule: I don't do anything for her until she's done something for me.
For some reason I am drawn to the young pretty ones. They usually have not been on the seen as long and are not as hard. However these same traits can make them less functional in the bed. I dance and chat with the girls before I pull the trigger. If she is in a hurry or rushes me I let her go. If the sex is good I get her number and will repeat.
I'm wary of any chica who asks for tangibles (beer, food. Etc) before we even get to my room. Putas like that will take and take with no consideration and are most likely to steal from you.
2014 rule: I don't do anything for her until she's done something for me.
I'm wary of any chica who asks for tangibles (beer, food. Etc) before we even get to my room. Putas like that will take and take with no consideration and are most likely to steal from you.
2014 rule: I don't do anything for her until she's done something for me.Make me a member of your club and don't forget to frisky them before they leave
Literally. Last minute cancel plans. Puts me in Sosua right now! The beach was lovely today. For the first time I actually enjoy the atmosphere. I play dominoes for the first time since they changed it to American style. Very good selection of chicas from Santiago were blazing their string bikinis. I'm at hotel Europa. The sexy Eva has been laying by the pool all day with those beautiful ass fake titties. But damn that girl is gorgeous. I think I just fucked the most darkest Dominican or Haitian I've ever seen. I caught her just right walking by herself, bad hair do looking at clothes she couldn't afford. 1000 pesos and she didn't complain. Of course I tipped her with a nice outfit. That's my afternoon treat. I think I'm going to go hi yellow tonight. I have a feeling it going be off the chain
Weed is always controversial on this site. In the DR it is viewed like coke. Most DR chicas I have been with do not smoke but some do. For those who like weed it is an awesome party drug. Music food and sex are all enhanced when smoking. Weed is illegal in most of the US as well so those of us who like it have accepted the risk. As adults we choose our risk. Why take the chance. Because it truly makes your activities enhanced. I try to be as safe as possible but I have smoked in the Dr many times. DR smoke is notoriously bad. This may be an age thing as well. Older guys who do not smoke may not understand why others do. Just like a lot of guys think you are taking a huge risk banging putas in a third world country.
Smoking weed in the US is a risk as it is in the DR. GOGO you would be surprised how many guys from all over the world do. I had a wingman from Norway he bought local and shared.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1521255]Hey Grownman,
I bro please.
The weed thing worries me the most because you are flagrant with it. Any Dominican that says "weed" you appear to be down with. Listen! Trust no one with that, it has serious consequences. My cousin got busted in Cabarette on our first trip. He snuck off with some Dominican dude and 30 minutes after he returned the police ran up on us with guns drawn. I will never forget the look on his face as the police were taking him away. It was like his worst nightmare had happened. First they wanted 10k use, then 5k to get him out of jail. His Mother was blaming me for not watching out for him. Its funny how family deserts you when they have to come up with thousands. We took him food to the POP jail and he was a defeated man. My cousin is 6'4, 220 pounds and a bad MF, but in jail he was a baby. We paid half and his family paid half and he was released. He hasn't been back since and the family never ta
Oldkool,
The only reason I don't smoke weed now is because my job won't let me. I don't think weed is bad, but it is illegal. Most of my early years were weed filled. With that said, we as adults can't be taking unnecessary risks that can cost us everything. The only reason foreign guys smoke weed in the DR is because they haven't been jammed up yet. I know that if you get busted and go through the wash that the Dominicans will put you through that you will then see its not worth the risk. Then you will never go back to the DR and say how terrible a place it is.
Being locked in a jail naked with 50 other guys in a 20x20 cell, having to pay 5k-10k of my hard earned money, and having loved ones bring you beans and rice as they feel sorry for you isn't worth hitting a joint. We are are viewed as rich vacationers to the poor Dominicans. They don't give a damn about 100usd when they can set your ass up for thousands, and you will pay brother. No American lawyers coming to your rescue, no politicians taking up your cause, not even sympathy from the girl who set your"Stupid rich tourist" ass up.
Guys don't have to listen to me now, but they will wish they had when their ass is shitting in a bucket. I'm not fucking with it, but listen to Old Kool guys if you want. I'm betting Old Kool won't be the one offering money when you get busted, will you Old Kool?
SavePros321
01-19-14, 06:31
Smoking weed in the US is a risk as it is in the DR. GOGO you would be surprised how many guys from all over the world do. I had a wingman from Norway he bought local and shared.There are at least 28 of the 50 States in the US that have decriminalized weed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Places_that_have_decriminalized_non-medical_cannabis_in_the_United_States
The DR has ZERO tolerance for weed:
http://santodomingo.usembassy.gov/narcotics_arrest_in_dr-e.html
CATEGORY ONE: Simple Possession
Minimum: 6 months in prison and a fine of RD$1,500
Maximum: 2 years in prison and a fine of RD$2,500
Read Gogo's post again: 5K USD to get his cousin out of a Dominican jail and 10K USD to have the case go away.
Compare that to paying only a $100 fine and no jail time in a place like California and tell me again where you'd rather take your chances.
Some of you guys lose all of your mind when pussy comes into the picture.
The Mind Bender
01-19-14, 07:10
Literally. Last minute cancel plans. Puts me in Sosua right now! The beach was lovely today. For the first time I actually enjoy the atmosphere. I play dominoes for the first time since they changed it to American style. Very good selection of chicas from Santiago were blazing their string bikinis. I'm at hotel Europa.How do you like Hotel Europa and what's a good room there?
Is the scene on the strip packed at night? CubaDave was saying it was a ghost town.
Make me a member of your club and don't forget to frisky them before they leaveI wouldn't frisk a chica unless I was sure she took something and in that case I might let security handle it. I just keep my important stuff in hand (smart phone) , locked up (money) or in plain sight (Hennessy) and I always do a quick check while she's showering up to leave.
I'm going to use your idea about bringing cheap dresses as gifts but I'd only give them to girls I've done multiple sessions with.
For some reason I am drawn to the young pretty ones. They usually have not been on the seen as long and are not as hard. However these same traits can make them less functional in the bed. I dance and chat with the girls before I pull the trigger. If she is in a hurry or rushes me I let her go. If the sex is good I get her number and will repeat.I agree the fresh faced 18-20 "rookies" are better.
I'm an ass man at heart but I've found in Sosua the bigger the booty the worse the sex / attitude. Now I go for the slimmer pretty girls (18-20) and the "bargain girls".7 scale chicas who might be over looked in favor of the cat suit wearing sharks. Nothing is sexier to me than enthusiasm and a lot of girls are eager to please and won't clock watch as much. On my next trip the plan is to grab any many hot chica's numbers on Saturday night then hit them up on Monday afternoon for $1000-1500 ST.
For those that this guy appeals to, CubaDave's spin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs964jKTDqg
Saw this but not sure if it is accurate: http://ourlegaci.com/2014/01/13/what-really-happens-on-vacation/
"The Dominican Republic started taking steps towards preventing sex trafficking in 2013. These steps include charges against anyone that forces someone into sex trafficking and 10-15 year sentences for people that use the services of prostitutes."
Chris Long
01-19-14, 14:01
Is Sosua going the Way of Costa Rica.
Been here three days now and prices seem to be going up and services are going down. Most chicas are asking for and sad to say many guys that I talk to are giving in and paying 2000P. Services however are not improving in fact they are declining finding many more chicas wanting to use condoms for blow jobs and many chicas have a rushed get it over with poor attitude. Things are not what they used to be, in the long run the rising prices and declining service level will just hurt the chicas as guys will begine to find other places. Colombia is looking better and better all the time.
Chris
The decision has nothing to do with the pussy. It is has been illegal forever. Slowly it is being decrimalized in the US. Hell prostitution is illegal in 49 states but is not slowing down. If it was illegal in DR would stop if the enforcement was lax?
Read Gogo's post again: 5K USD to get his cousin out of a Dominican jail and 10K USD to have the case go away.
Compare that to paying only a $100 fine and no jail time in a place like California and tell me again where you'd rather take your chances.
Some of you guys lose all of your mind when pussy comes into the picture.[/QUOTE]
Buying and selling pussy is not illegal in the DR as long as there is no middle man and the girl is over 18.
[ ominican Republic started taking steps towards preventing sex trafficking in 2013. These steps include charges against anyone that forces someone into sex trafficking and 10-15 year sentences for people that use the services of prostitutes."[/QUOTE]
For those that this guy appeals to, CubaDave's spin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs964jKTDqg
Saw this but not sure if it is accurate:
http://ourlegaci.com/2014/01/13/what-really-happens-on-vacation/
"The Dominican Republic started taking steps towards preventing sex trafficking in 2013. These steps include charges against anyone that forces someone into sex trafficking and 10-15 year sentences for people that use the services of prostitutes."Cuba Dave sounds really bitter, but all he is saying in his 7-minute rant is the atmosphere in the main large bars in Sosua is lousy due to enclosure and that the two brothel clubs have been closed down (as I predicted here back in April, I think it was.) He admits that the hotels are full or nearly full, so evidently the local powers in Sosua are doing something right, and perhaps he could have said more about why the hotels are full.
He also mentioned, I think I have this right, that he would like to see more prostitutes at the beach and less offers of massage.
Of course the enclosure of the bars will not be good news for smokers, and probably not for drinkers, so point taken.
There is little doubt that the government of the DR does not want the name of the country to be synonymous with sex tourism.
Thanks Cuba Dave for your valuable contribution to bringing media attention to unsavory aspects of sex tourism, especially places like Passions. Keep up the good work! We need a few more good men like you.
Not sure about that 10-15 years thing, I think something was lost in translation.
Buying and selling pussy is not illegal in the DR as long as there is no middle man and the girl is over 18.
[ ominican Republic started taking steps towards preventing sex trafficking in 2013. These steps include charges against anyone that forces someone into sex trafficking and 10-15 year sentences for people that use the services of prostitutes."No, it isn't but obviously there are gray areas, such as the existence of very profitable bars that depend absolutely on the prostitution trade and "chica friendly" hotels full of single men that are in the same boat. To the extent that Sosua is promoted on the Internet as a sex tourism destination, there is a perception of a commercial sex industry located in Sosua. The law on men paying women over the age of 18 for sex may not change, but it it is the laws around the fringes that have a lot of impact on the size of the market.
One could also compare to the UK, or many other countries, where it is not illegal to pay for sex with someone over 18, but there are many other laws that put restrictions in place to dampen the demand for prostitution. No one perceives London as a primarily sex tourism destination, that is for sure.
Charles Pooter
01-19-14, 19:15
. don't forget to frisky them before they leaveThe chica could call a friendly cop and charge you with assault and you would not have a leg to stand on.
This comes back to a point which I and others have often made. What the fuck type of chicas are you going with that you feel the need to frisk them when leaving as a routine (and not in exceptional circumstances)? Time and again I see visitors choosing obvious slags and think "WTF"? Usually alcohol plays a big part in such poor choices which lead to most of the problems we read about.
I don't take a girl unless I like her. I am not interested in fucking anyone I don't like. There are plenty of nice girls about who just need 1000/2000 to feed their kids without needing to associate with lowlifes.
The chica could call a friendly cop and charge you with assault and you would not have a leg to stand on.
This comes back to a point which I and others have often made. What the fuck type of chicas are you going with that you feel the need to frisk them when leaving as a routine (and not in exceptional circumstances)? Time and again I see visitors choosing obvious slags and think "WTF"? Usually alcohol plays a big part in such poor choices which lead to most of the problems we read about.
I don't take a girl unless I like her. I am not interested in fucking anyone I don't like. There are plenty of nice girls about who just need 1000/2000 to feed their kids without needing to associate with lowlifes.Charles you you don't understand a joke when you see one. I don't drink, I never took a chica to my room I didn't want to fuck,
Your warning has not fallen on deaf ears. Thank you for that situational example. 10k. 5k and jail is not kool.
Your warning has not fallen on deaf ears. Thank you for that situational example. 10k. 5k and jail is not kool.I wouldn't have have wasted my time on you if I thought you were a knucklehead. I've been there and I understand its all about fun, but I just want you to think a little more, that's all. I was hanging with Mr E yesterday and he told me you were a cool dude. If you want to smoke weed go at it, but have some safety codes, that's all bro. Keep reporting but understand this is a growth process. Consider me your real friend that is always going to be real with you.
As usual you make valid points
Hotel Europa is a great go to place. $40 a night. Wifi, safe, very clean pool, jacuzzi, flat stream TV, bar, ac, kitchenette, refrigerator, guess computer, free morning coffee, hotwater, and right on the strip. This is my third time here. I'm in room 123 which is a double room $75. It has a very nice patio attached to it. 2 weeks ago I came here and after one was close. It is now open.
Marc Anthony
01-20-14, 09:11
Actually it is.
Anyone with half a brain knows that, even were it to be completed, there would be minimal input into the general economy. A few politicians and landowners might make mucho dollars, but that money they will hide offshore. It will have nil impact on Sosua and almost none on Puerto Plata.Much like Royal Carribean has a cruise ship port at Labadee in Haiti a bit further west up the same very same coast that's regularly called on by the biggest cruise ships in their fleet. Effectively it has zero impact on the local Haitian economy. Many tourists aren't even aware Labadee is in Haiti. Maimon is well west of PP, which for the Sosua economy might as well be on a different island.
One last thing bro, stop with the outfits for girls you just met. It will make the hardcore girls think you are soft and they will home-in on there mark. They might even get mad if your with another girl and tell the cops you have weed. Save the clothes for special chic as you plan to see the next trip.
I'm not trying to be hard on you bro, just food for thought. Us veterans will tell you the good and bad if they want you to succeed. I'm in your corner but tighten up a little please. The vets told me my mistakes and I didn't always listen. But over time when I think back on it I say"damn I get it now".[/QUOTE]I hear what you saying Mr Gogo, but everyone doesn't get outfits. Only excellent performers! And only after the deed is done. It works excellent for me. If you knew or seen my demeanor you would not think or get the he"s soft vibe. The military and law enforcement trained me well. I always touch bases with the local law enforcement Supervisors when I touch down in Boca Chica and Sosua. I always leave with there personal number.
If giving things to the ladies is good for him no harm done. One more point. A motivated pro is a really good night. Some hard core pros can give you something to remember. They are just like the other girls but with good and bad experiences. If you treat them right surprise you get your toes curled. Most guys can manage the hard core girls. Negotiate up front have fun. Little kindness goes a long way with the tough ones.
One last thing bro, stop with the outfits for girls you just met. It will make the hardcore girls think you are soft and they will home-in on there mark. They might even get mad if your with another girl and tell the cops you have weed. Save the clothes for special chic as you plan to see the next trip.
I'm not trying to be hard on you bro, just food for thought. Us veterans will tell you the good and bad if they want you to succeed. I'm in your corner but tighten up a little please. The vets told me my mistakes and I didn't always listen. But over time when I think back on it I say"damn I get it now".I hear what you saying Mr Gogo, but everyone doesn't get outfits. Only excellent performers! And only after the deed is done. It works excellent for me. If you knew or seen my demeanor you would not think or get the he"s soft vibe. The military and law enforcement trained me well. I always touch bases with the local law enforcement Supervisors when I touch down in Boca Chica and Sosua. I always leave with there personal number.[/QUOTE]
Is not for the well-known heart. A lot of police patrolling tonight. Rumba is packed 3 to 1 guys. I just found out that my slim chica with the fat ass has been getting butt injections. My heart is crushed. But this may explain all of these perfect asses out here. Its not many chicas but what do you expect for Monday. I am on high alert now that I've know butt injections are in the area. Hit you up later
Charles Pooter
01-21-14, 00:43
Charles you you don't understand a joke when you see one.Sorry I missed your dry humor, and I apologise for misjudging you.
But obviously you must have been satirising the attitude some guys have, so my remarks are still relevant, though not to yourself.
I never took a chica to my room I didn't want to fuck,Obviously not. But that is not what I wrote about. I was talking about guys fucking chicas they dislike so much they would want to frisk them when leaving without "probable cause", and I was claiming that there are enough likeable girls around for this situation never to arise.
Mr Enternational
01-21-14, 02:16
I was talking about guys fucking chicas they dislike so much they would want to frisk them when leaving without "probable cause", and I was claiming that there are enough likeable girls around for this situation never to arise.By the time you get probable cause (read realize your shit is missing) the girl could be half way to Santiago. Remember they are doing this for bread and meat, not for hobby. Any way they can get it: lips, hips, and fingertips. Better to not trust a hooker and keep all your shit than to be Mr. Benefit of the Doubt and leave Sosua a camera or a cell phone short as some of my friends have been known to do.
Sorry I missed your dry humor, and I apologise for misjudging you.
But obviously you must have been satirising the attitude some guys have, so my remarks are still relevant, though not to yourself.
Obviously not. But that is not what I wrote about. I was talking about guys fucking chicas they dislike so much they would want to frisk them when leaving without "probable cause", and I was claiming that there are enough likeable girls around for this situation never to arise.No problem Charles. I said it before and I'll say it again with the not so you have under your belt at your age you're my hero
On the ground again in standing on the outside of Rumba. The streets look empty this is my first Monday night. I don't think I'll be doing another Monday night. Ic approximately 8 girls and twenty three guys in front of me. This scene is not worth a picture. I hope the prices reflect the night.
Chris Long
01-21-14, 08:36
On the ground again in standing on the outside of Rumba. The streets look empty this is my first Monday night. I don't think I'll be doing another Monday night. Ic approximately 8 girls and twenty three guys in front of me. This scene is not worth a picture. I hope the prices reflect the night.I've been here five days so far and your post about sums up the last five days often its been one to one in the chica to monger ratio at best. Unfortunately many of these chicas and guys have been stuck on stupid. Chicas are asking for 2000P and many of the guys I have been talking to have been paying it. Not at all like it was in November and December.
Chris
On the ground again in standing on the outside of Rumba. The streets look empty this is my first Monday night. I don't think I'll be doing another Monday night. Ic approximately 8 girls and twenty three guys in front of me. This scene is not worth a picture. I hope the prices reflect the night.What time at night? If before 11PM it's usually pretty slow.
I don't want you in that jam bro. If you have to smoke weed, have one person that you only deal with when buying, and never turn the girls your banging on to it. The less people you know the better.
I don't understand guys who take Dominican girls out to eat. Bro, just take them to the Dominican chicken stand on the street and let them get a 200p plate of chicken, beans and rice.
This post by our fellow monger sounds very sincere and I back him on these issues from the experience's I am having right now in Sosua and on my earlier trips. Only after being with a chica a few times do you need to trust her. Never on the first fuck. My home town is no different than sosua when it comes to only dealing with one person for your left handed cigs even if you have to wait a few minutes to get your regular guy it is worth it.
Charles Pooter
01-21-14, 16:35
By the time you get probable cause (read realize your shit is missing) the girl could be half way to Santiago. Remember they are doing this for bread and meat, not for hobby. Any way they can get it: lips, hips, and fingertips. Better to not trust a hooker and keep all your shit than to be Mr. Benefit of the Doubt and leave Sosua a camera or a cell phone short as some of my friends have been known to do.What if the chica declines to be frisked? If you then laid a finger on her (not necessarily roughly) she would have every right to charge you with assault (in Dominican law just as in American or European law). Whether she would get very far with that would depend on whether she has good relations with a cop and / or lawyer, but enough do have to make it not worth the risk.
In eight years (half of it living here full-time) I have never had anything stolen by a chica and I have never felt any inclination to frisk one. It all goes back to poor choice of chica in the first place.
I had stuff stolen by staff where I was living, and I have had a few disputes with chicas over payment (decreasing in frequency over the years as I learned the game). But they are different issues.
And what the hell are your friends doing leaving cameras and cell-phones out unsupervised when they invite lowlifes back to their room? If you make dumb mistakes you deserve to get punished.
I bought a chica and her girl friend 2 nice breast of chicken and fries last night and it set me back 150 and they were both happy and full. For the new guy's looking to go to sosua to have fun it is just like the guy's are saying on this site you can have as much pussy as your dick can handle for a cheap price I have been here 2 weeks so far and I have paid between 600 and 2000 for chica's and believe it or not the best by far were the one's for 600. The best thing you can do is like the guy's on here are saying is you got to know what the deal is before she ever get's in the auto. It's called the interview if you don't like how they act for any reason during that process don't take them because what ever it is will get worse. Claro. For sure
Weed is always controversial on this site.I used to cop (do they still say cop?) in the "barrio blanco" toward the end of Cabarette to the right (not the oceanside) of the main road. I found it from some crackhead American girl I met on the beach one night offering me a BJ. I declined but talked to her a little and she waked me through the barrio and introduced me to a few people and I threw her a few bucks. Brought back memories of Manhattan and the Bronx pre, pre Giuliani. Why they called it "blanco" is a mystery since I was always the only gringo in there. Scary looking as hell the first time but never a problem except that the weed was shit and always full of seeds. Sounds like it still is, which is sad since the ganja could probably equal Jamaica's if anyone there had a fucking brain.
When I go to BKK I bring a suitcase full of women's shoes. Theres a Tijuana Max nearby where I can get the most hooker lookin shoes for between $7 and $12 a pair which equates to about 3 beers in a BKK go go (I only drink coke when I'm cruising). I like to take pics of naked girls and I swear there is nothingI can't get them to do after trying on a few pairs and the promise of leaving with a pair. They feel like models and their poses are great and the sex doubles in quality (I posted a bunch in the BKK section last year).
Everybody has their own level of risk tolerance but like the boys are telling you, the more risk the sharper you have to be (at least I think thats what they're saying, egos aside) and risk multiplies exponentially in that shithole of a country. If your cool with that then life is to be lived!
Is Sosua going the Way of Costa Rica.
Been here three days now and prices seem to be going up and services are going down. Most chicas are asking for and sad to say many guys that I talk to are giving in and paying 2000P. Services however are not improving in fact they are declining finding many more chicas wanting to use condoms for blow jobs and many chicas have a rushed get it over with poor attitude. Things are not what they used to be, in the long run the rising prices and declining service level will just hurt the chicas as guys will begine to find other places. Colombia is looking better and better all the time.
ChrisI think every time we attempt to define or describe the Sosua scene, a different day, a different week, a different month, a different vacation, a different set of chicas or a different monger, the experience one may have can change in an instant. One mans lousy vacation / day / night does not set the tone for every other monger. And it surely doesn't mean a monger needs to go elsewhere. The last 3 vacations (Oct, Nov and Dec) , mostly were positive and very fulfilling. Take a guy like CubaDave. Because one of his prized mongering destinations is closed, he seems to be depressed or very disappointed in his last trip. So much so he left early. Whats he going to do, go back to Costa Rica because of that? Should any of us be thinking of going elsewhere because he or others had a bad trip or observed chicas asking for too much or offering poor service?
Another guy may go to Sosua and have a blast. One major factor that can make a difference, is timing. Another I think, is some people are spoiled, and can't seem to make an adjustment or adapt. So what, Monday may be dead. If it was me, I'd save some leche for another day. Or find something else to do with my time. I think enough guys that come to Sosua for vacation, rely too much on chicas from the clubs / bars. Maybe they have to because that is all they know, or thats all they have time for?
A dude can create options and opportunities if he is willing to go outside of his comfort zone. I'll be there next week, and I'm almost sure my mileage may differ than what some guys are reporting / observing. For one, I know about 6 sureshot chicas I can hook up with. I won't need to rely soley on the chicas on the strip to meet my needs. But even then, I'm sure I will indulge in a few on the strip during the time I'll be down there.
Ath Trainer
01-21-14, 23:10
I think every time we attempt to define or describe the Sosua scene, a different day, a different week, a different month, a different vacation, a different set of chicas or a different monger, the experience one may have can change in an instant. One mans lousy vacation / day / night does not set the tone for every other monger. And it surely doesn't mean a monger needs to go elsewhere. The last 3 vacations (Oct, Nov and Dec) , mostly were positive and very fulfilling. Take a guy like CubaDave. Because one of his prized mongering destinations is closed, he seems to be depressed or very disappointed in his last trip. So much so he left early. Whats he going to do, go back to Costa Rica because of that? Should any of us be thinking of going elsewhere because he or others had a bad trip or observed chicas asking for too much or offering poor service?
Another guy may go to Sosua and have a blast. One major factor that can make a difference, is timing. Another I think, is some people are spoiled, and can't seem to make an adjustment or adapt. So what, Monday may be dead. If it was me, I'd save some leche for another day. Or find something else to do with my time. I think enough guys that come to Sosua for vacation, rely too much on chicas from the clubs / bars. Maybe they have to because that is all they know, or thats all they have time for?
A dude can create options and opportunities if he is willing to go outside of his comfort zone. I'll be there next week, and I'm almost sure my mileage may differ than what some guys are reporting / observing. For one, I know about 6 sureshot chicas I can hook up with. I won't need to rely soley on the chicas on the strip to meet my needs. But even then, I'm sure I will indulge in a few on the strip during the time I'll be down there.From what I've read, Cuba dave is almost exclusively a passions and cmp guy. You put him in the clubs, and its out of his comfort zone. It would have to be really bad to cut mybtrip, short, though.
Having established chica you know are winners eliminates the need to use shakey chicas. I keep the number of good performers and use them when the other options are weak,
Having established chica you know are winners eliminates the need to use shakey chicas. I keep the number of good performers and use them when the other options are weak,Good point. I've had buddies that say"Man that was the best pussy I ever had" but they wouldn't repeat with them, go figure. Then they spend the rest of their vacation having dead fish fucks. One of my boys from this board was banging this girl in the room next to mine and the sensuous sounds she was making almost had me ready to kick the door down and say my turn. I kept telling him to repeat with her again but he never did. He called me last week and said I was right because he hasn't had a girl fuck him that good since he banged her last year.
Charles Pooter
01-22-14, 13:46
From what I've read, Cuba dave is almost exclusively a passions and cmp guy. You put him in the clubs, and its out of his comfort zone. It would have to be really bad to cut mybtrip, short, though.It may be that he partly lived off commissions for taking guys to those places. Not necessarily cash, but free drinks, meals and / or chicas. If he is on a tight budget that could make a difference. I have no evidence for that theory, but it seems strange that someone who knows Sosua well would insist on taking newbies to those venues. Other ex-pats and regular visitors I know, the more time they have spent in Sosua, the more they avoid such places, because they have learned they can get better value elesewhere.
Ath Trainer
01-22-14, 14:50
It may be that he partly lived off commissions for taking guys to those places. Not necessarily cash, but free drinks, meals and / or chicas. If he is on a tight budget that could make a difference. I have no evidence for that theory, but it seems strange that someone who knows Sosua well would insist on taking newbies to those venues. Other ex-pats and regular visitors I know, the more time they have spent in Sosua, the more they avoid such places, because they have learned they can get better value elesewhere.Passions and cmp are like blackbeards. Simple, one stop shopping, shooting fish in a barrel. Price is fixed. Rooms are right there. Convience store service and prices too. Some people do all their shopping at 7 11 s, and don't mind the limited selection and higher prices.
Passions and cmp are like blackbeards. Simple, one stop shopping, shooting fish in a barrel. Price is fixed. Rooms are right there. Convience store service and prices too. Some people do all their shopping at 7 11 s, and don't mind the limited selection and higher prices.Have you seen any exceptionally busty (preferably slim and stacked) women at either of these places? Thanks.
It may be that he partly lived off commissions for taking guys to those places. Not necessarily cash, but free drinks, meals and / or chicas. If he is on a tight budget that could make a difference. I have no evidence for that theory, but it seems strange that someone who knows Sosua well would insist on taking newbies to those venues. Other ex-pats and regular visitors I know, the more time they have spent in Sosua, the more they avoid such places, because they have learned they can get better value elesewhere.Moreover, many of those same girls usually stay nearby in rooms / hotels in Sosua, until it is time to go to work. A dude can meet those same chicas when he sees them outside of those casas, take numbers and make a hook up at his convenience. Dudes have already been doing it. I would be surprised if CD was not receiving some sort of benefit from his promotions of those places.
Manizales911
01-22-14, 17:13
Having established chica you know are winners eliminates the need to use shakey chicas. I keep the number of good performers and use them when the other options are weak,I couldn't agree more. I visit the DR every six weeks, the north shore specifically, and haven't stepped foot into Sosua in almost two years, no need to. Over the course of multiple trips I keep in contact with top performers and cool chicas and repeat with them. Some guys like a steady variety but with that comes the likelihood of poor performance. I will try one or two new girls every trip but the rest of my time is spent with girls that I know are going to cater to my every need.
Riky Rapido
01-22-14, 17:34
I couldn't agree more. I visit the DR every six weeks, the north shore specifically, and haven't stepped foot into Sosua in almost two years, no need to. Over the course of multiple trips I keep in contact with top performers and cool chicas and repeat with them. Some guys like a steady variety but with that comes the likelihood of poor performance. I will try one or two new girls every trip but the rest of my time is spent with girls that I know are going to cater to my every need.And I have written these same words before. Why go to Sosua, when most of the manhunter chicas on Pedro Clisante actually live in the Puerto Plata barrios or in towns in between.
I couldn't agree more. I visit the DR every six weeks, the north shore specifically, and haven't stepped foot into Sosua in almost two years, no need to. Over the course of multiple trips I keep in contact with top performers and cool chicas and repeat with them. Some guys like a steady variety but with that comes the likelihood of poor performance. I will try one or two new girls every trip but the rest of my time is spent with girls that I know are going to cater to my every need.I was in the DR 6 times last yr. Appx every 2 months. I like the North Coast, but I'm outgrowing Sosua. Where do you stay? The Lomar in PP? I seem to recall a post where you were in Costambar, but I'm sure that requires a car. Puerto Plata definetly could use better hotels!
Riky Rapido
01-22-14, 17:55
Much like Royal Carribean has a cruise ship port at Labadee in Haiti a bit further west up the same very same coast that's regularly called on by the biggest cruise ships in their fleet. Effectively it has zero impact on the local Haitian economy. Many tourists aren't even aware Labadee is in Haiti. Maimon is well west of PP, which for the Sosua economy might as well be on a different island.Is being constructed, WILL have a major impact on the Puerto Plata economy. There is a $350 million dollar renovation going on in roads, and building improvements. I am getting my info from a friend who works at the American Consulate. Last night road signs were installed on the malecon. WTF! You might say, well you have to live here to see the changes going on. Some are obvious, some are subtle. Curious about the forementioned road signs, nobody follows them, what is next? Police stopping cars and trucks for traffic violations, that would be a change, for sure. Also, two cruise ships docked in Maimon, distance about 4 miles from Puerto Plata, will fill how many buses? Downtown is preparing for the onslaught of tourists. What happens in Sosua, is mere speculation.
It may be that he partly lived off commissions for taking guys to those places. Not necessarily cash, but free drinks, meals and / or chicas. If he is on a tight budget that could make a difference. I have no evidence for that theory, but it seems strange that someone who knows Sosua well would insist on taking newbies to those venues. Other ex-pats and regular visitors I know, the more time they have spent in Sosua, the more they avoid such places, because they have learned they can get better value elesewhere.He has an e-book for sale on Amazon, so I imagine promoting the Cubadave brand name is intended to be a method of marketing. Perhaps sales are not going well.
Since when does going / staying in Sosua limit a guy from having women from Puerto Plata or anywhere else? If a dude has transportation or can use transportation, what difference does it make where he stays at or where he goes for women? Some of the sentiments I'm reading sounds a lot like Cubadave. I'm glad I'm not limited just to pursuing women when I'm in the DR / Sosua.
And I have written these same words before. Why go to Sosua, when most of the manhunter chicas on Pedro Clisante actually live in the Puerto Plata barrios or in towns in between.Why NOT go to Sosua, if it is true that most of the manhunter chicas on Pedro Clisante actually live in the Puerto Plata barrios or in towns in between? Moreover, doesn't that apply to the hundreds of other women that come from all over the DR just to be in Sosua? Again why not go to Sosua if a variety of women from all over are coming directly to you? That includes Haitian women if that is ones choice.
I don't want you in that jam bro. If you have to smoke weed, have one person that you only deal with when buying, and never turn the girls your banging on to it. The less people you know the better.
I don't understand guys who take Dominican girls out to eat. Bro, just take them to the Dominican chicken stand on the street and let them get a 200p plate of chicken, beans and rice.
This post by our fellow monger sounds very sincere and I back him on these issues from the experience's I am having right now in Sosua and on my earlier trips. Only after being with a chica a few times do you need to trust her. Never on the first fuck. My home town is no different than sosua when it comes to only dealing with one person for your left handed cigs even if you have to wait a few minutes to get your regular guy it is worth it.I respect and honor you and Mr Gogo's warning. I don't think I will ever buy weed from another country (I hope). Smoking weed is like eating a chica pussy. Some do. Some don't and some can't understand the anothers risk taking. As grown men what separate us from boys are the acceptance of the consequences for our actions and not the action itself. Mr Gogo's 10k example is a good reminder of how things can go wrong. I had to smoke on that one! No joke dry humor this time Charles. LOL I am with you of the eating thing but I was out numbered. I was just 150 peso tacos so we thought!
What time at night? If before 11PM it's usually pretty slow.Like Chris Long said it the vibe for the last few day. It was about 12:51 when I gave that observation
Driving or walking the local people find out pretty dam quick that you are there. If you are driving they know by your 3rd circle around the little town of Sosua and if you are walking they all know by the 2nd day especially when one is loud and drunk. It is like the guy's are saying on here it is best to keep some what of a low profile. These people will set you up if you fuck up by being an asshole or just being a rich dick. So far the DR has been a great place to land but I do relize that 1 fuck up could change the whole game. Word to the wise if you get in any shit settle it with who ever it is before it goes any longer even if you are not in the wrong. It will be cheaper in the long run. Claro. For Sure
Just be respectful to the people and life will be a little better for who ever goes to the DR
Marc Anthony
01-23-14, 02:53
Is being constructed, WILL have a major impact on the Puerto Plata economy. There is a $350 million dollar renovation going on in roads, and building improvements. I am getting my info from a friend who works at the American Consulate. Last night road signs were installed on the malecon. WTF! You might say, well you have to live here to see the changes going on. Some are obvious, some are subtle. Curious about the forementioned road signs, nobody follows them, what is next? Police stopping cars and trucks for traffic violations, that would be a change, for sure. Also, two cruise ships docked in Maimon, distance about 4 miles from Puerto Plata, will fill how many buses? Downtown is preparing for the onslaught of tourists. What happens in Sosua, is mere speculation.I grant that there will likely be busloads of tourists dropped off on the malecon and in a other few locations for a few hours. Like tourists at Playa Dorada and other AI's they won't be eating or spending much outside strictly managed venues and rather than being around for a week they will only be around for a few hours. That will certainly make money for a few well connected businesses that can manipulate government to make the necessary investments. Whether it has any real effect on the local economy is questionable.
And I have written these same words before. Why go to Sosua, when most of the manhunter chicas on Pedro Clisante actually live in the Puerto Plata barrios or in towns in between.Mongering in Puerto Plata is not the same vibe that is in Sosua. Wrx2005 hit the nail on the head as far as vibe in Puerto Plata the chicas give you. We spent about 4 hours in PP and I seen very beautiful women there but no eye contact like I get in Sosua. The chicas we were with lived in PP but they avoid Sosua. One said she ended her relationship with her America novio because he couldn't keep this ass out. They claim the clubs have a lot of American tourist, but I haven't got a good word yet. They wanted us to go out with them but no mucho tiempo.
Mr Enternational
01-23-14, 05:46
Mongering in Puerto Plata is not the same vibe that is in Sosua. Wrx2005 hit the nail on the head as far as vibe in Puerto Plata the chicas give you. We spent about 4 hours in PP and I seen very beautiful women there but no eye contact like I get in Sosua.I thought that vacation mongering was all about the vibe. If you just want to fuck pussy then you could probably do that anywhere on earth at the local massage parlor or strip club. To me it is the setting that can make all the difference in the world. For instance, I'm in Sao Paulo right now. I can go into any clinica and fuck all types of Brazilian women if I want. But for me it still doesn't compare to being back in Rio (45 minutes flight away) circa the Help days picking up chicks on Copacabana beach. Same chicks, different location, different vibe can make for a totally different sexperience.
Mongering in Puerto Plata is not the same vibe that is in Sosua. Wrx2005 hit the nail on the head as far as vibe in Puerto Plata the chicas give you. We spent about 4 hours in PP and I seen very beautiful women there but no eye contact like I get in Sosua. The chicas we were with lived in PP but they avoid Sosua. One said she ended her relationship with her America novio because he couldn't keep this ass out. They claim the clubs have a lot of American tourist, but I haven't got a good word yet. They wanted us to go out with them but no mucho tiempo.Let me give my insight of what I have experienced over the years with respect to the POP girls and SD girls that have now taken over Sosua. In 2006 most girls in POP were relocating from SD for new opportunity, and also to stay with family members that had relocated to Puerto Plata (POP). You had the resorts, Playa Dorado etc, that had jobs. This was before Punta Cana got hot. POP was an up and coming place. Sosua had the beach and a few clubs where the girls figured they could meet guys to offer the better life along with WU (Western union) , and maybe a new life abroad. Towns like Montellano, La Union, Santiago, and Puerto Plata had girls who could offer these guys from abroad all they could handle. Classsicos was a hot spot for new talent from the nearby cities. These girls were looking for long term. Romance, offers to meet the family, and invitations of a home cooked meal were the norm. Sex was on a GFE basis. Romance was the vibe of Sosua then.
Flash forward to Sosua in 2010, and now you have a Sosua in transition. It had become a hustle with a "New breed" of girls who injected themselves into the Sosua game directly from SD (Santo Domingo). These girls bypassed POP and came strictly to have fun and get paid. They were seasoned, created for the new monger in Sosua who wanted to sport fuck. GFE was no longer the game. These SD huslers had a "game plan". They would work together, live together and got paid together in Sosua. Fuck the extended family members in the outer towns, these girls were on a mission. Also they would be the "new shit" in Sosua. The old regime was smart to retreat to nearby surroundings and frown at this "New breed".
Girls who were looking for that foreign ticket were now in the barrios of POP getting pregnant by Dominicanos, pissed at the younger / more street wise SD transplants in Sosua. The game had passed them by. With the new SD girls takeover of Sosua, girls from the outer towns couldn't compete. They weren't organized and together like the SD girls, and they weren't as streetwise and well versed to the sport fucking game.
So the girls who were from the outside towns retreated to normal life even though they were very bitter at their passed opportunity. Hence, you now have girls in these other towns outside of Sosua who are hoping for one last"man on a White horse in shining armor". Some good girls are now in POP but they want no association with this new Sosua. It takes time to break these girls because they always have to compete with the "New Sosua" being 30 minutes away.
The best way to deal with girls from POP is to tell them you hate Sosua and its hardcore girls and never let them know you visit Sosua.
I thought that vacation mongering was all about the vibe. If you just want to fuck pussy then you could probably do that anywhere on earth at the local massage parlor or strip club. To me it is the setting that can make all the difference in the world. For instance, I'm in Sao Paulo right now. I can go into any clinica and fuck all types of Brazilian women if I want. But for me it still doesn't compare to being back in Rio (45 minutes flight away) circa the Help days picking up chicks on Copacabana beach. Same chicks, different location, different vibe can make for a totally different sexperience.Mr Enternational were having you been!
I have on this trip met and went out with girls who are no hookers from surrounding areas and it is very nice after you have been with so many hookers. These girls are looking for long term like our fellow mongers have discussed on this site. It is very nice for the ladies to cook for you and meet there families. Although I have to admit had I not already had all the pussy I needed it would have been a hard thing to do because these girls are like the good girls back home they are not coming off that shit on the 1st date For Sure. Guys just make sure you get all the pussy you want before looking for a good girl and when you do find her it will be easy for you to act like that not having sex is no big deal and you are willing to wait on it. Local dishes they cook can some times fuck your stomach up so if you plan on eating at a locals house bring some pills for a upset stomach.
The Squirts
So the girls who were from the outside towns retreated to normal life even though they were very bitter at their passed opportunity. Hence, you now have girls in these other towns outside of Sosua who are hoping for one last"man on a White horse in shining armor". Some good girls are now in POP but they want no association with this new Sosua. It takes time to break these girls because they always have to compete with the "New Sosua" being 30 minutes away.
The best way to deal with girls from POP is to tell them you hate Sosua and its hardcore girls and never let them know you visit Sosua.[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo. Man you are soooo right! I notice these chicas seem like they didn't want to complete with the Sosua chicas. My chica was a 6 and my friends 7. They couldn't complete in Sosua and can't take mucho dick. T said his chica was super tight and fell to the floor after they finished. I am average at best and I couldn't go hard and deep. They did seem jealous about the Sosua girls. The SD girls have Sosua on lock. They take the game to another level with the Nicki Minajing. They were looking for long term and my friend and I were the White horses. I kept telling her mi no gusta Sosua. She enjoyed hearing that. We ended up taking them and knocking them off in Santiago but they didn't ask for money. They accepted what ever we gave them at the Airport. I notice both of them didn't even look at the money just threw it in their pockets. I gave my chica 3000 pesos and T wanted to give his 4200 pesos the rest of the money he had but I wouldn't let him do it. I asked him to just give her 3000 and give me the 1200 for the rental car agent checking the vehicle. (T had an accident) I gave this much because it was 2 am, they help us get to the Airport, and they said the wanted to take a cab back to PP (2000 pesos) No buses at that time. Yeah I know they are going to wait for the bus anyway! I didn't want to miss my flight driving around in circles. Here a picture of little miss Nicki Minaj from SD with the butt injections.
I asked him to just give her 3000 and give me the 1200 for the rental car agent checking the vehicle.
(T had an accident) I take it they let you guys leave the country
Manizales911
01-23-14, 16:28
The best way to deal with girls from POP is to tell them you hate Sosua and its hardcore girls and never let them know you visit Sosua.Strong, wise advise from Gogo. To any monger trying to score in Puerto Plata, tattoo this into your brain.
I take it they let you guys leave the countryI always keep a good tip just in case. I tip the rental guy 500 pesos and he gave me an up grade from an Economy to a full size SUV. T brushed a tree backing up in Sosua and a guy quoted us 6000 pesos to fix it. A worker at the hotel rub some bond on it but it was still apparent. We tip him 1000 pesos I was dark and he didn't notice it, but the bastard pointed out the car was not on completely full. Maybe 200 pesos off. I told him we just gave him 1000 pesos and he is tripping about maybe 200 peso gas. He wrote on the paper that we were off. I was like WTF! He turned the paper work in to the guy on the inside. I told the guy we just gave him a 1000 peso tip and he in tripping! The guy on the inside made him change it to full. I told him I gave the wrong person a tip. He said the checker was ungrateful, he told the checker that half that tip was his and from now on we know who to tip. I was happy he didn't see the damage T did to the car. I won't forget his ungrateful ass!
I had her twice and she was better the first time. She didn't come back to my room that night as planned. I guess she ran into more money and more dick. The next day during our afternoon session she wasn't the same.
Your experience is why I do not rent cars in the DR. You can secure a huge debt in the blink of an eye in legit and non legit ways. I use the local publicos for travel to PP ad Caberetti. I spend my nights in Sosua when on the north coast and in SD I need a cab to get around. grown you guys were very lucky they missed that scratch. They could have really stuck you up.
Your experience is why I do not rent cars in the DR. You can secure a huge debt in the blink of an eye in legit and non legit ways. I use the local publicos for travel to PP ad Caberetti. I spend my nights in Sosua when on the north coast and in SD I need a cab to get around. grown you guys were very lucky they missed that scratch. They could have really stuck you up.You right! We were going to take a bus but we arrived at STI 3:15 a. M. The cab quoted us $100 to Sosua. The bus didn't leave until 8:30 am. T had no money and forgot to activate his Visa card before we left. He had me hot! I had 2000 pesos and an active Visa. I WU money to myself but at that hour I couldn't get to a store. He said we will just use his phone for navigation to Sosua. After we got the car, T asked me for a charger because he ran down his battery playing game on the way there. I flipped "why the hell would I have a charger for a phone a don't own". We drove to Sosua 4:00 am in the blind. Lucky for us it was an easy and the signs were very visible (Hwy 1 to Hwy 5). I drove (T eye sight badatnight) but I was scared not knowing the scene. I don't advise Anyone to do that! I asked T WFT he would have done if I didn't come with him and I didn't plan this trip but that's my dawg!
Tempoecorto
01-24-14, 00:49
You had booked an Economy car from the US and got a full size suv as a free upgrade for 500 pesos? Seriously? The rate difference can be as high as $40/50 per day not including the stupid 20% or so of taxes. This was at STI?
I had 2 session in the morning and afternoon no leche. I think it was the pain pill I took. That night I need to release bad. I need a chica that will let me beat it up. I stay away from the thick hardcore chicas, but I remember my man OlK advice. Treat a hardcore with respect and she will surprise you. There she was 5'10 190 and she looked like she had nuts in her pants. I need a thoroughbred. I was out of my zone but I'm on vacation. 1500 pesos deal and I explain to her I am going hard, deep and we are going to have fun. JACKPOT! Mami is a Gemini like me. She stay all night and the repeated in the morning. I choked, slap, pulled her weed, and used a finger vibrator. Duro mami fuck me duro! D She loved it! That pussy creamed! T said we made his dick so hard just listening. I let her try on 4 outfits until she picked her 1. Course I got pictures for yall.
I had 2 session in the morning and afternoon no leche. I think it was the pain pill I took. That night I need to release bad. I need a chica that will let me beat it up. I stay away from the thick hardcore chicas, but I remember my man OlK advice. Treat a hardcore with respect and she will surprise you. There she was 5'10 190 and she looked like she had nuts in her pants. I need a thoroughbred. I was out of my zone but I'm on vacation. 1500 pesos deal and I explain to her I am going hard, deep and we are going to have fun. JACKPOT! Mami is a Gemini like me. She stay all night and the repeated in the morning. I choked, slap, pulled her weed, and used a finger vibrator. Duro mami fuck me duro! D She loved it! That pussy creamed! T said we made his dick so hard just listening. I let her try on 4 outfits until she picked her 1. Course I got pictures for yall.She looks like a linebacker, did you bareback her?
I have a lady semi pro in SD. Cute but no real beauty. However she gives a 100% in the sack and is very sweet. She like being with me and is grateful for what I give her. Most guys would just walk by her but she is a real treat and the sex is so nice. If you can gain a chicas trust she will show you her freak side. All you have to do is be ready to rumble. Thanks for the shot out.
I had 2 session in the morning and afternoon no leche. I think it was the pain pill I took. That night I need to release bad. I need a chica that will let me beat it up. I stay away from the thick hardcore chicas, but I remember my man OlK advice. Treat a hardcore with respect and she will surprise you. There she was 5'10 190 and she looked like she had nuts in her pants. I need a thoroughbred. I was out of my zone but I'm on vacation. 1500 pesos deal and I explain to her I am going hard, deep and we are going to have fun. JACKPOT! Mami is a Gemini like me. She stay all night and the repeated in the morning. I choked, slap, pulled her weed, and used a finger vibrator. Duro mami fuck me duro! D She loved it! That pussy creamed! T said we made his dick so hard just listening. I let her try on 4 outfits until she picked her 1. Course I got pictures for yall.
SavePros321
01-24-14, 15:58
T had no money and forgot to activate his Visa card before we left. He had me hot!Probably more like "conveniently forgot to activate his Visa card before we left", lmao!
Do people in DR are racist to dark skin people. I just read in a article that they are. I really don't understand this because some dominican people are dark skin too. I'm a dark skin person. Will I have any problems with people down there!
Do people in DR are racist to dark skin people. I just read in a article that they are. I really don't understand this because some dominican people are dark skin too. I'm a dark skin person. Will I have any problems with people down there!Not in the town of sosua. They are lots of people of all different colors having the time of there lives fucking girls they thought they could never have in this life time. But as we all have discussed previously on this site the DR is a racist country so when travelling out of the town of sosua just make sure your passport is in good order and in most cases they will be no problems when they see you are not from Haiti.
Do people in DR are racist to dark skin people. I just read in a article that they are. I really don't understand this because some dominican people are dark skin too. I'm a dark skin person. Will I have any problems with people down there!Many Dominicans have antipathy towards Haitians, who are generally darker skinned than Dominicans, so that is part of the story. A Dominican woman I knew in the US immediately identified a passing street person as a "Haitiano", based on his color, though he was not Haitian at all.
However as a visitor to the DR what is most important is your demeanor, language, dress, behavior, and the money that you are spending on goods and services, so you are unlikely to encounter direct discrimination based on skin tint in places where you are readily identifiable as a tourist. At least no more so than in the US or the UK (which might not be saying much.)
In my opinion, a dark skin American gets different treatment than a dark or light skin Haitian the DR once their nationality established. Though very apparent Dominicans have a history of not identifying or embracing their African mixed bloodline. Like it or not it was a major political movement that their Powers that be felt was the best interests for their country's future. Unlike Cuba, their country was built on their Spanish embracement and African disassociation. They have received far more embracement from the world in all areas of economic, cultural, and political gains from this move. This is why African American aren't treated like African Haitian. They are American! If I country want to survive on is side of the Western Hemisphere, the good graces of Americans is 110% essential. All along the southern coast of DR African slaves were used for plantation labor. These African mated and infused with the Spanish, Native Dominican and Eurocentric population. Acknowledging only one side of Nationality. For them black is a color and not a Nationality. As a result, you get a noticeable darker skin along the southern coast than the Northern Coast were African slave labor were not as essential to the economy. Embracing their noticeable African bloodline does nothing for the Dominican. They don't have or need a good acceptance from Africa. They were not Caucasians, but they are not the crazy dark skin Haitians who at one time in history controlled them. The Haitian emancipated themselves from the French and destroyed all the economic Eurocentric investment as a result of there fight for freedom. They are still suffering from this move today. No major companies invest in poorer Haiti. They had a good trade relationship between the two sides. Dominican later block the borders turning on their Haitian neighbors and running them back into Haiti killing thousands. Today the Haitian are still not loved but are weakly tolerated and charged I think annually to come and work. Hence you see a large amounts Haitian chicas in major tourist area trying to make some cash.
And you will find these chicas to be less likely to want to have problems with the law. I took my Haitian chica with me to the Airport and I could read the fear in her eyes as she walk my the police official.
She looks like a linebacker, did you bareback her?Naww dude! But I know she was game for whatever!
Yes sir it was STI. I only tipped him after the up grade. He did say if he needed the car they will come to the hotel and exchange it. He gave me a good history lesson and liked the fact I was intrigued. The down side was we really didn't need it. I just cost us more gas money.
Your caption reads Jan 3 Sosua. I would think that that would be one of the worst times to travel to Sosua looking for an abundance of talent. IMO, thats the time when most chicas are back home with their families enjoying the fruit of their labor. I sincerely expect things to change at the end of the month, as we near Super Bowl week. Thats the time chicas come out of the woodwork to descend on Sosua once again to make that money.What you say has merit.
Their bigotry is part of their culture. Combined with a low education level these view are allowed to grow unchecked. Almost every Dominican np matter their skin tone thinks they are white. Now for us tourist the color they see is green. It trumps all the other BS. The vast majority of Dominicans would be considered black in the US. This fact would shock them.
Many Dominicans have antipathy towards Haitians, who are generally darker skinned than Dominicans, so that is part of the story. A Dominican woman I knew in the US immediately identified a passing street person as a "Haitiano", based on his color, though he was not Haitian at all.
However as a visitor to the DR what is most important is your demeanor, language, dress, behavior, and the money that you are spending on goods and services, so you are unlikely to encounter direct discrimination based on skin tint in places where you are readily identifiable as a tourist. At least no more so than in the US or the UK (which might not be saying much.)
Tempoecorto
01-25-14, 02:21
Many Dominicans have antipathy towards Haitians, who are generally darker skinned than Dominicans, so that is part of the story.Is the antipathy because of color or because of history? Haiti once ruled the D. R and later, during the dictatorship of Trujillo, wasn't there a bloodbath of real of imagined Haitians along the river separating Haiti from the D. R?
Tempoecorto
01-25-14, 02:31
Yes sir it was STI. I only tipped him after the up grade. He did say if he needed the car they will come to the hotel and exchange it. He gave me a good history lesson and liked the fact I was intrigued. The down side was we really didn't need it. I just cost us more gas money.You are right; on normal roads, there is definitely no need for SUV and as you said, those are gas guzzlers too. I am surprised nonetheless. Which car rental company was this and how much was your original daily rate for the economy car you had rented?
Thanks
The Mind Bender
01-25-14, 06:06
I let her try on 4 outfits until she picked her 1. Course I got pictures for yall.What you didn't get any booty shots Grown? Haha
Good explanation OldKool, but it goes a little deeper from the Dominican standpoint. What you say is true, but it is a long, brutal, history associated with Haiti that contributes to the hatred of anything linked to Africa and blackness. To acknowledge the acceptance of possibly being black would also acknowledge Haiti. But the facts are in the skin tone.
Its the reason that I could never take a Dominicana seriously. To deny the color of ones history is to deny ones self now. The knowledge is knowing. But to deny what is obvious to the eye, and tell otherwise, is either ignorant or arrogant.
Morena and blanquita being most popular when describing their colors, sorry for my spelling.
Strangely enough, one chica can call some other girl 'morena' instead of señorita.
You are right; on normal roads, there is definitely no need for SUV and as you said, those are gas guzzlers too. I am surprised nonetheless. Which car rental company was this and how much was your original daily rate for the economy car you had rented?
ThanksThriffy it was 40 with insurance.
What you didn't get any booty shots Grown? HahaYou right I was being kool.
What you didn't get any booty shots Grown? HahaYou right was trying to kool. Here a few more
That truly is a lot of women. Pack a lunch for this one.
You right was trying to kool. Here a few more
BlackPhillip
01-25-14, 15:21
New to the forum, and International mongering. Thank you to those who are providing great info, Still trying to put all the pieces together for a Sosua trip.
And you will find these chicas to be less likely to want to have problems with the law. I took my Haitian chica with me to the Airport and I could read the fear in her eyes as she walk my the police official.LOL. But a very sad thing
Good explanation OldKool, but it goes a little deeper from the Dominican standpoint. What you say is true, but it is a long, brutal, history associated with Haiti that contributes to the hatred of anything linked to Africa and blackness. To acknowledge the acceptance of possibly being black would also acknowledge Haiti. But the facts are in the skin tone.
Its the reason that I could never take a Dominicana seriously. To deny the color of ones history is to deny ones self now. The knowledge is knowing. But to deny what is obvious to the eye, and tell otherwise, is either ignorant or arrogant.Easy to say from a utopian viewpoint. You are not in their situation nor would you trade places with your targeted group.
I think every time we attempt to define or describe the Sosua scene, a different day, a different week, a different month, a different vacation, a different set of chicas or a different monger, the experience one may have can change in an instant. One mans lousy vacation / day / night does not set the tone for every other monger. And it surely doesn't mean a monger needs to go elsewhere. The last 3 vacations (Oct, Nov and Dec) , mostly were positive and very fulfilling. Take a guy like CubaDave. Because one of his prized mongering destinations is closed, he seems to be depressed or very disappointed in his last trip. So much so he left early. Whats he going to do, go back to Costa Rica because of that? Should any of us be thinking of going elsewhere because he or others had a bad trip or observed chicas asking for too much or offering poor service?
Another guy may go to Sosua and have a blast. One major factor that can make a difference, is timing. Another I think, is some people are spoiled, and can't seem to make an adjustment or adapt. So what, Monday may be dead. If it was me, I'd save some leche for another day. Or find something else to do with my time. I think enough guys that come to Sosua for vacation, rely too much on chicas from the clubs / bars. Maybe they have to because that is all they know, or thats all they have time for?
A dude can create options and opportunities if he is willing to go outside of his comfort zone. I'll be there next week, and I'm almost sure my mileage may differ than what some guys are reporting / observing. For one, I know about 6 sureshot chicas I can hook up with. I won't need to rely soley on the chicas on the strip to meet my needs. But even then, I'm sure I will indulge in a few on the strip during the time I'll be down there.If you keep in touch with a few chicas you can always have a little black book to fall back on. Of course the downside is, talking to them while back home will certainly get them asking for $$. I have a few "freebies" (non pros) but of course we all know they cost more. LOL! But nice to have on a slow Monday IMO
Good explanation OldKool, but it goes a little deeper from the Dominican standpoint. What you say is true, but it is a long, brutal, history associated with Haiti that contributes to the hatred of anything linked to Africa and blackness. To acknowledge the acceptance of possibly being black would also acknowledge Haiti. But the facts are in the skin tone.
Its the reason that I could never take a Dominicana seriously. To deny the color of ones history is to deny ones self now. The knowledge is knowing. But to deny what is obvious to the eye, and tell otherwise, is either ignorant or arrogant.Yes indeed
Haitians dominated the Island back in 1840s. Every since then they have been vilified and demeaned. The recent action taking away citizen ship from those who have some Haitian blood is right out of the 1800s. If your grandparent was of Haitian decent you might no longer be considered a Dominican ciitzen even though you have never been to haiti. No one would believe this but it is true. There are 2 things on Hispanola I like, the women and the music. I would not be surprised to see a revolution in the Dr. The conditions for average citizens are very hard. Wages for an average worker pays for half of what is needed to live. 5 % of the population live like kings while the others struggle to eat every day.
Yes indeed
I have not seen any reconnoissance lately. Is any one in Sosua? I understand things have likely moved to the discos with CMP and Passons closing. Where are people finding interesting things at?
I am doing in a month and like to research the are first so I put a map together of places I have herd about on sites like this and some of hobotraveler and Cuba dave videos. Here is a lonk to what I have so far. It should get better after I go.
How is the price structure now?
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203017989284325362300.0004f0cf447da113a7d88&msa=0&ll=19.763796-70. 515425&spn=0. 013469, 0.019591
If you keep in touch with a few chicas you can always have a little black book to fall back on. Of course the downside is, talking to them while back home will certainly get them asking for $$. I have a few "freebies" (non pros) but of course we all know they cost more. LOL! But nice to have on a slow Monday IMOWell I'm on the ground in Sosua. Got here Saturday. Was thinking of my blondie chica lately, so after getting in my place and a little shopping, I called her. Said she was home in Santiago. She said she was coming to Sosua, will be there around 11pm (in spanish ). I never set foot on the strip.
Sunday night wasnt sure who I was going to call, but I was thinking of my restaurant chica on the beach. Didn't call her initially, but I went to get a pedicure in the afternoon. Towards the end of my pedi, the chica in the salon seemed receptive so I expressed interest and we agreed to get together when she got off at 7. Came by at 7, she wasnt in the salon. Called her but there was so much noise in the background, couldn't hear shit. Told her to text me, no text. So immediately I went to plan B. One of my adopted policies is not to waste too much time on flaky females / situations.
Called my restaurant chica, she was home? Got herself together and was in Sosua around 9pm. Stopped for some pizza, and off to my spot. So yes, mi hermano, having backups can be worthwhile. The benefit is you know what to expect in the bedroom. No concerns of scams or unnecessary BS. Negotiating is usually not necessary, nor is money discussed. You already know what you are going to give her. Main problem though, is once you make contact, you might have to deal with them trying to monopolize your time, or assume you plan on seeing them everyday. You see them everyday, they expect to be getting paid everyday. This chica no longer works at the restaurant. So unfortunately now she will be available every day.
Thats not good for me. I like when chicas are working and not readily available. I've learned though. One of the best chica repellents in existence IMO, is to just tell a chica you don't have any money. You tell them that, and more likely than not, that chica will be ghost. I remember one chica last month that was persistently pestering me about getting together again and again. It wasnt until I told her I didnt have any money, that she made a complete 180 and just said ok amor, and stopped calling. It was like magic. Any other excuse and the pestering would continue to no end.
Charles Pooter
01-27-14, 13:39
You are not in their situation nor would you trade places with your targeted group.Pretty silly argument. I would not trade places with an Al-Qaeda suicide bomber but it doesn't mean I cannot justifiably condemn their philosophy.
Noticed a shitload of mongers in Sosua. From what I'm hearing most hotels especially the popular ones are booked solid. I took a ride down to Villa Chessa way down by Playa Chiquita. Spoke briefly to the owner and he said he was booked solid all the way until March. Now thats saying something. Especially for an establishment that is way away from the strip. I think Rockys, Mary Rose, and Sosua Suites is booked solid too. As are most of the hotels, including Seabreeze. I helped a buddy of mine with his reservation at Condos Margarita more than a month ago. I asked by friend J to call and follow up to make sure all was good with his reservation. They tried to pull a fast one, claiming they made a mistake. That they had already booked the same condo / apt to another party. The truth more likely, the other party was probably longer term than my 2 friends.
They were going to move them to another CM owned property near Banca Reserves. After some shame tactics on my part, I eventually got a text back saying they had their original reservation. And thats the problem when there is no cash deposit on reservations. 1st come does not always mean 1st served. The other party may or not have been regulars at CM like my friends. But many of these hotels go by who will earn them the most money. Most of these hotels won't tell you they changed your preferred room / apt. You find that shit out when you get there.
I've had that happen when staying at one of Ricks places. But I have been flexible with Rick because he is a stand up guy. He will work things out for a customer. But he is a business man, and sometimes in the hotel business a little juggling of clients or potential clients is necessary.
Passions and CMP is closed. And the only reason I know is because I have to pass by there. Plenty of fresh faces in the chica department. A few guys I know who have been to the strip report a major influx of old and fresh chicas in Rumba and D'Latins and Sosua overall. While sitting at Rockys in the early evening I notice plenty of new chicas in town. I see plenty of regulars walking around. I'm sure all of these chicas are going to be feeling the fierce competition for clients. Don't be fooled though. Some of these chicas are going to be aiming high when it comes to pricing out their services. I'm sure they recognize newness when they see it. Even the new chicas are going to be aiming high because they were trained / advised to do so.
Guys are going to have to shoot that shit down. Unfortunately, I think there are going to be too many hungry / thirsty pussy starved dudes in town who won't have the time, skill, nor the patience to negotiate. Mind you, Super Bowl is days away. Each day that passes up until then, IMO it's going to be wall to wall mongers and chicas in town. I'm already seeing the classic mobs of dudes walking down the street together. So I expect to see more of that the closer we get to SBS. Haven't been to Sosua playa yet. But I did go to Caberete Sunday afternoon. Cabarete looked like it was jam packed with tourists. Didn't venture out on the beach because I stayed in Kahuna to play pool. But the venders were in usual form. Like crosstown buses, one after the other going up to people to try to sell the same stuff the previous vender 2 seconds ago had. Looking out on the beach, left and right, beach was full and all of the restaurants looked full. I'm pretty sure they had much business all night long.
Be extra careful guys. A certain % of mongers are going to have a problem on their vacation. There is going to be reports of thefts, robberies, scams and whatnot. A friend of mine just reported to me that he believes money was stolen out of his safe in Hotel Europa. He says he makes it a practice of always counting his money and knowing what he has on hand. But this one time after he came from being out (his room was cleaned) he eventually checked his money and he was short a a 2000 peso and a couple of 1000 pesos. So says he is so sure what he had that he knows somebody has been in his safe. So now he is looking to get out of there.
I recommend right now to any monger. Make sure you know how much and what you have on you at all times. Don't just blindly spend money and don't know what you have. Don't leave things out that can easily be picked up, and forgot about. Also, consider rigging things in your room so you'll know if something has been tampered with while you are out. For instance, you put something in or on your safe that only you know about. Take a picture of how you left your room or the object. Set up a trap so that if they go there, they cause a mess or an alert (like spilling a cup of water / juice etc / set off an alarm ).
So far it's been 2 days. I got 32 more to go. So I'll be here when most folks leave after SBW. To be continued.
Pretty silly argument. I would not trade places with an Al-Qaeda suicide bomber but it doesn't mean I cannot justifiably condemn their philosophy.Again. Get off your missionary attitude.
Mr Enternational
01-27-14, 16:14
The only places I have ever stayed in Sosua are Europa and Sosua Bay. Neither me nor my friends have ever had a problem of theft by hotel employees (thieving chicas yes). But if I suspected I would have a problem then: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006WA9Z26
The times that I have been travelling and thought that I had been got, I later remember that I broke the bill down when I paid for something. It happens more than you would think; especially in countries that use high-denomination bills such as 1000s. You think you have a lot, but they go quickly.
Any recommendations on which cell phone provider to go with in Sosua? Will be staying for three weeks next month and plan on buying a cheap phone that I can just load with minutes versus paying for a plan. Any advice would be appreciated, not looking for a smart phone, just a very inexpensive phone.
Thanks
The only places I have ever stayed in Sosua are Europa and Sosua Bay. Neither me nor my friends have ever had a problem of theft by hotel employees (thieving chicas yes). But if I suspected I would have a problem then:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006WA9Z26
The times that I have been travelling and thought that I had been got, I later remember that I broke the bill down when I paid for something. It happens more than you would think; especially in countries that use high-denomination bills such as 1000s. You think you have a lot, but they go quickly.I guess the idea is, you put a label over the safe door, or anything where you have a separation of parts (like an entrance doorway or sliding glass door ), so that if the two parts are split one would have to break the label?
With my friend, I do suspect he was got by somebody. But I don't think he's certain if it was Europa staff, or a long term resident, or any company he had. He moved to another room in Europa. I do know what you say. Dominican pesos go quick. My friend had only been there for 2 days, so I'm inclined to believe he knew how much he spent and how much he should have left in that amount of time.
Eventually made it to the playa. Only saw a few chicas walking on the beach. Was in Rumba last night around 8, and there was only a few chicas in there. Pretty dead. Walked past D'Latins and it was dead as well (but to be expected at that hour ). All the rest of the bars right in the vicinity were just sprinkled with customers. I think the restaurants were doing okay as far as people coming to eat. I saw enough chicas out and about, but much of what I saw were average looking chicas. Plenty of pudgy / thick girls around too. (not my preference ).
Thats all I know as of 10:00PM. Whatever happened after that I have no clue. Sat at Rockys for about an hour and didn't see as many chicas passing by as I'm used to. One chica that passed by Rocky my buddy flirted with her briefly. She was a cute redbone wearing a yellow dress. Pretty sexy, with a nice round ass, the high heels, nails, hair and makeup in place etc. She looked like she was ready for D'Latins instead of Rumba. He tried to get a feel for what she was looking for $$$. She said she wanted 2000 for an hour. He wasnt that interested but he told her 2000 would be for 2 hours, not an hour. She apparently told him "oh you want 1000 per hour?". Eventually she just walked away to search for clients.
About 4 in the afternoon, I did meet a cute personable chica walking while I was sitting in my car near Baileys. Said she was from San Pedro. I took her number. Once I left my parking spot and went around the block, I saw her again on PC and Dr Rosen. She was definitely on the prowl. Which didn't impress me much at 4 in the afternoon. She would probably have been good for a quick nasty snack, but nothing more. Spent the night alone. So I saved money and leche for another day. Got to pace myself. Still got 31 days to go.
Any recommendations on which cell phone provider to go with in Sosua? Will be staying for three weeks next month and plan on buying a cheap phone that I can just load with minutes versus paying for a plan. Any advice would be appreciated, not looking for a smart phone, just a very inexpensive phone.
ThanksThe best thing to do is buy a somewhat cheap UNlocked phone on Ebay. Then, where ever you travel, just buy a sim card and minutes. I have a Orange sim card in the DR.
The best thing to do is buy a somewhat cheap UNlocked phone on Ebay. Then, where ever you travel, just buy a sim card and minutes. I have a Orange sim card in the DR.I have a claro card in my DR phone, but it dosent recieve calls or texts if it rains to hard. LOL. Go Orange!
I have a claro card in my DR phone, but it dosent recieve calls or texts if it rains to hard. LOL. Go Orange!I now have Claro but I miss my Orange! Service a little better and the price was the same.
I now have Claro but I miss my Orange! Service a little better and the price was the same.Thanks for the feedback from everyone, I'm going to go to Orange and purchase the cheapest phone they have in there store in Sosua. I may be paying a little bit more for the phone but if I have a problem while in Sosua I can just take it back to the store to fix any problems.
Gone through that plenty of times myself. Chicas you get with, and might even start getting attached to. They like you back and you help them out a little bit, the moment you say you have no money to give to them, they disappear. And then you remember."that's right. Should I really be surprised?" With a couple chicas I have been surprised and didn't expect them to bounce. One chica spent three days with me, we enjoyed talking to each other and had a good time. Helped her out a little bit, knowing in the back of my head that she lives in a relatively poor country and cannot afford things. But I started to get annoyed when I'd get a whatsapp message asking for xxxx pesos and the conversion rate to dollars and that it was needed immediately for [insert reason here]. The moment I said "sorry, I'd like to help out but I have bills to pay this week and can't do so." I received a curse filled response that ended with a "I never really liked you, I knew this from the moment I saw you. You are a fool, no girl will ever want to be with you when you can't even give them money. Only a real man helps a woman out financially. You are not man." (it was in Spanish)
I shook my head in disappointment, and amazement at how a person could switch just like that. But really, I should have known this. Sometimes you learn the hard way.
Well I'm on the ground in Sosua. Got here Saturday. Was thinking of my blondie chica lately, so after getting in my place and a little shopping, I called her. Said she was home in Santiago. She said she was coming to Sosua, will be there around 11pm (in spanish ). I never set foot on the strip.
Sunday night wasnt sure who I was going to call, but I was thinking of my restaurant chica on the beach. Didn't call her initially, but I went to get a pedicure in the afternoon. Towards the end of my pedi, the chica in the salon seemed receptive so I expressed interest and we agreed to get together when she got off at 7. Came by at 7, she wasnt in the salon. Called her but there was so much noise in the background, couldn't hear shit. Told her to text me, no text. So immediately I went to plan B. One of my adopted policies is not to waste too much time on flaky females / situations.
Called my restaurant chica, she was home? Got herself together and was in Sosua around 9pm. Stopped for some pizza, and off to my spot. So yes, mi hermano, having backups can be worthwhile. The benefit is you know what to expect in the bedroom. No concerns of scams or unnecessary BS. Negotiating is usually not necessary, nor is money discussed. You already know what you are going to give her. Main problem though, is once you make contact, you might have to deal with them trying to monopolize your time, or assume you plan on seeing them everyday. You see them everyday, they expect to be getting paid everyday. This chica no longer works at the restaurant. So unfortunately now she will be available every day.
Thats not good for me. I like when chicas are working and not readily available. I've learned though. One of the best chica repellents in existence IMO, is to just tell a chica you don't have any money. You tell them that, and more likely than not, that chica will be ghost. I remember one chica last month that was persistently pestering me about getting together again and again. It wasnt until I told her I didn't have any money, that she made a complete 180 and just said ok amor, and stopped calling. It was like magic. Any other excuse and the pestering would continue to no end.
Gone through that plenty of times myself. Chicas you get with, and might even start getting attached to. They like you back and you help them out a little bit, the moment you say you have no money to give to them, they disappear. And then you remember."that's right. Should I really be surprised?" With a couple chicas I have been surprised and didn't expect them to bounce. One chica spent three days with me, we enjoyed talking to each other and had a good time. Helped her out a little bit, knowing in the back of my head that she lives in a relatively poor country and cannot afford things. But I started to get annoyed when I'd get a whatsapp message asking for xxxx pesos and the conversion rate to dollars and that it was needed immediately for [insert reason here]. The moment I said "sorry, I'd like to help out but I have bills to pay this week and can't do so." I received a curse filled response that ended with a "I never really liked you, I knew this from the moment I saw you. You are a fool, no girl will ever want to be with you when you can't even give them money. Only a real man helps a woman out financially. You are not man." (it was in Spanish)
I shook my head in disappointment, and amazement at how a person could switch just like that. But really, I should have known this. Sometimes you learn the hard way.What you just shared should be stickied somewhere here on ISG because guys need to know and / or be reinforced that much of what they see and experience from these chicas is all an act. In principle, the way that chica turned on you is how it is in general in life.
I'm sure you know this already. We have all seen how it is after lending somebody some money. They are as friendly as Caspar (the friendly ghost) before they get the money. But when it's time to pay back, their attitude changes to contempt for you. 'If I knew you were going to be sweating me like this for this money, I wouldn't have borrowed it. ' They will use any excuse to have a problem with you, so they don't have to pay you back.
Dealing with chicas in this p4p game aint much different, just that the context of the game is different. Many of these chicas arent content with simple p4p. What I call pay per use. No. I believe it is psychologically fulfilling for many of these chicas to steer their interactions with men to make it seem as if they got something going on besides p4p. Thats why I think it looks so silly seeing dudes leaving the strip walking down the street holding hands with these girls. It's bad enough seeing it with guys playing the role like they have a relationship with any of these girls while he is in his own country.
These chicas are very convincing. They may start off with a shit load of syrupy behavior to try to get you emotionally attached and sucked in, and repeating the same dumb shit they are saying to you. Like "I miss you","Te amo", calling you "mi amor:, mi vida etc etc. Weve all seen it. It's all good when they do it, but when you find yourself saying that shit back, many of these girls think they are tying you emotionally to them. The idea is, it can and has made it easier for them to get to their goal of eventually testing a dudes "feelings" for them. You said you miss me too. You said you love me. You call me love, sweetheart so I expect you to show your love once I start giving you some of my problems to solve. Chicas don't always ask for shit, they simply tell you their problems and then expect you to "feel" sorry for their predicament. She saw / heard you say you miss her. That you care for her. So now it's time to deliver.
Of course some chicas don't have time to waste so they come straight to the point of what they claim to need. Of course enough of these women are not looking at their behavior as prostitution, nor do they think they are doing anything wrong by juggling several dudes at the same time, and trying to get shit from all of them. Even when they get busted, they find a way to rationalize and lie their way out of shit. This whole p4p game is a game of wits. It's chess it aint checkers. But once a dude is aware of whats going on, he can be an awesome force and still have fun with these chicas.
Just yesterday, this one chica I know found out I was back in Sosua. She asked me where I was. I said I was with friends at Rockys. What does this chica do? 10 minutes later she shows up there. She got a quick surprise. 2 of us sitting there talking had already fucked her, and my friend next to me had just got her number 3 nights ago. So when she rolls up to Rockys, she got a huge surprise and tried to play it off as if she was just walking by. The transparency of many of these chicas is amazing. The only thing important to her is making that money.
But to read her texts and the syrupy icons she sends me through whatsapp and viber you would think she really has feelings for me. But the thing is several dudes are all getting the same messages from this chica. She briefly stands around in Rockys, I semi ignore her and continue socializing with the guys. She leaves and texts me a minute later asking me do I want to "frikki frikki conmi". I said yeah, but again when I have dinero. She shoots back. I want to be with you, you can give me when you have. I wasnt ready for that one. I thought just telling her I have no money now would solve the pestering, but it didn't.
Basically I just stuck to my guns. I just told her, I don't want to have to pay her later. I will wait until I have money. That worked. She did shoot back "Plis". I just ignored her. And would have ignored her if she kept going after I already told her the deal. 4 days in, last 2 days no juice from any chicas. Slept solo. I want to fuck who I want to fuck, and when I want to fuck. I'm in no rush. It's your vacation/time/money. You are the prize catch. They are just selling a service. Dont let chicas take charge or the lead. Brothers dont forget that.
One chica I met last month, already asked me to bring her a Galaxy phone as a gift. I ignored that request then. But in typical form, these chicas will come right back and try again, again and again. They don't think that when you ignored their request the 1st time, that maybe they shouldn't be asking for shit. That doesn't enter their brain. They simply try again and again until they get a definitive response. IMO they are persistent in trying a dude because they probably think a dude is emotionally attached to them after having had sex with them, and them seeing him cum and him enjoying their bodies. Persistence sometimes pays off. Thats why panhandlers, touts, change guys, venders ect keep coming around and asking the same people over and over again even though they got a no before.
This same chica texts me again a month later asking for a Galaxy phone. When I got to Sosua this Sat, I didn't tell her I was here. But I eventually mentioned it to her. She acted surprised when I told her I was here already. Her concern was, she wanted to be here when I was here because she has been pushing the idea that she likes me and that she has feelings for me. That I could be her novio. At the very least, her not in Sosua means some other chica is getting whats "hers". She throws me a test question in text after my revelation of being in Sosua already."Tu no quiero mi?" I used that question as an opportunity to straighten this chica out.
I said yes I want you. I thought you were already here in Sosua. She said, I haven't been to Sosua since I left on Dec 28 (I left on the 19th of Dec ). I told her you know I left on the 19th. I know I am not the only man you spent time with before I got there or after I left you there in Dec, so I wasnt expecting you to make time only for me. I went on to say, I want us to have an honest friendship. I know you don't come to Sosua just for me, so lets not act like you are coming to be with me only. After that convo, I think I caught her off guard. Because I think she was convinced I was totally absorbed with her predatory love.
I think a lot of these chicas think like that when they get with a dude much older than them. They act like the older dude will do anything to keep young women interested in being with him. They tend to under estimate some of us as all being thirsty horny men with no options. Possibly I don't think I will get any more requests for a phone or her asking me to send her money so she can be with her kids and not have to come to Sosua. Yeah she tried that one too. I almost forgot about that one. The most I suspect from her now, is her whining about me not trying to get with her as much she wants. I'm supposed to get an ego boost every time she wants to spend time with me. Meanwhile it's really all about pursuing the money. Spending time, means getting paid. Thats their main goal.
Lagerhowen
01-29-14, 10:46
What do we all do when we need cash? We go to the ATM. What do the chicas do when they need cash? Just step outside. The streets are their ATM. Just remember that and put that in the front of your mind.
'How chicas trying to squeeze extra cash from you and what to do about it' or something like that.
I've been reading your reports for quite some time and they have a cold shower effect when I'm about to be carried away.
Not always pleasant, but definitely required reading for any of us, thanks for posts.
P. S. I agree that bringing them new Galaxy would be stupid, however, older Galaxies available at Amazon or Ebay for 50-100 bucks. Older Galaxies may serve as incentive and / or tips for anal or some other crazy shit you want to do with her LOL. Worked for me.
What you just shared should be stickied somewhere here on ISG because guys need to know and / or be reinforced that much of what they see and experience from these chicas is all an act. In principle, the way that chica turned on you is how it is in general in life.
Mr Enternational
01-29-14, 12:59
One chica I met last month, already asked me to bring her a Galaxy phone as a gift. I ignored that request then. But in typical form, these chicas will come right back and try again, again and again. They don't think that when you ignored their request the 1st time, that maybe they shouldn't be asking for shit.It's not complicated. Just tell them to give you 40000 pesos and you will buy it and bring it back for them next time. That will stop all of that. The problem is when they see cake daddies doing it for their friends or guys buying them on ebay passing them out. Why even put the thought in their heads by opening up that can of worms? You are still going to get the pussy like everybody else and it's not going to feel any different. You think her mouth will get wetter when she sucks your dick because you gave her a phone? The girls don't realize how much these things cost. They think we get them significantly cheaper, which we don't. They also think we are rich because we have trained them to think that way by doing shit like that. My girlfriend has a BlackBerry. I have a Galaxy S1. A couple of months ago we were talking about how we didn't like iPhones. She said that she wanted to get her a Galaxy S4. I told her that I hope she had an extra 40000 pesos laying around, because that is how much they cost. That is two months salary for her. She hasn't wanted a Galaxy S4 since.
They also think we are rich because we have trained them to think that way by doing shit like that.They can easily check out prices in US, but they want it for free.
Despite the fact that these chicas by the level of relative income belong to the upper middle class in DR, they still trying to squeeze it out of us.
I probably will not call one of my favorite chicas next time I'm in DR just because I'm tired of hearing this Galaxy BS.
Charles Pooter
01-29-14, 14:20
I'm going to go to Orange and purchase the cheapest phone they have in there store in Sosua. I may be paying a little bit more for the phone but if I have a problem while in Sosua I can just take it back to the store to fix any problems.Not knocking your plan, it could be the best option, but never assume that problems will be solved, guarantees or contracts will be honored, promises will be kept, or goods supplied will be to the correct specification and not defective, anywhere in the DR, with any company. If they can fuck a customer over they will do so, especially if that customer is a gringo.
Obviously some entities are better than others, but I have been shafted, or at least obstructed, from surprising quarters. Nothing can be relied on here 100 per cent
Member #4351
01-29-14, 14:45
Thanks for the feedback from everyone, I'm going to go to Orange and purchase the cheapest phone they have in there store in Sosua. I may be paying a little bit more for the phone but if I have a problem while in Sosua I can just take it back to the store to fix any problems.I have just purchased a Claro chip every trip and stuck it in whatever unlocked phone I happened to have at the time. Never had a problem. You just try it out in the Claro or Orange store and make sure it works. Most guys on this forum do the same in whichever country they visit, be it Thailand, the Philippines or wherever. Its no big deal.
'How chicas trying to squeeze extra cash from you and what to do about it' or something like that.
I've been reading your reports for quite some time and they have a cold shower effect when I'm about to be carried away.
Not always pleasant, but definitely required reading for any of us, thanks for posts.
P. S. I agree that bringing them new Galaxy would be stupid, however, older Galaxies available at Amazon or Ebay for 50-100 bucks. Older Galaxies may serve as incentive and / or tips for anal or some other crazy shit you want to do with her LOL. Worked for me.My motivation is simply to reinforce awareness and caution. I think there are many who are getting that cold shower effect (I like that BTW) through my experiences, observations as well as others.
I do not think buying a Galaxy is stupid in of itself. I think it's unwise to do so indiscriminately. If one is to buy something, buy something that is practical and affordable (a BB or cheap knock off) , and make that chica understand she has to earn her way to a Galaxy.
I have a preference for when I want to be generous with gifts. I don't like begging chicas, asking me or telling me what they want me to buy or bring them. At Rumba a chica I used to fuck (Yunelis, some of yall may have had her) stops me at Rumba and tries to get me to sit with her (I saw her earlier on the beach ). I decline to sit because I know she wants something, so she pulls me close for me to kiss her on her cheek. Then immediately (in perfect english) asked me to buy her a beer. I declined. At the same time, I complimented her on her perfume.
She said thank you, but "I just ran out, I don't have anymore". Making a subtle hint to me. I go sit with my homey. A few minutes go by and one of the barmaids brings me a bill for a grande Presidente. She shows me the bill as says "Por chica over there" I told her I did not order that beer and was not paying for her beer. Yunelis thought that if she ordered the beer and sent the bill to me, that I would simply pay it. I'm thinking, damn I haven't been with this chica in over a year, and she is treating me like I have been standing still and never learned anything in all of this time.
In 10 seconds, she wants a beer and drops a hint of possibly wanting me to buy her some perfume. Chicas like that, I don't respond well to their requests for little things (food / beverages) or significant things like an expensive phone. Chicas I meet in Sosua and only have a p4p arrangement, I don't entertain their requests for gifts or sending them money. Only those chicas I have a certain rapport / relationship with I may extend myself for. And I do it without them having to ask. And I only do for those that actually are appreciative of my efforts. Not those barracudas that just take and take and don't appreciate what you do for them. And look at getting shit from men as some sort of talent or skill.
IMO, if a dude wants anal or some other crazy shit, simply go for it. If she resists because she is against your request thats one thing. But if she needs compensation as an incentive, why not go the cheapest route possible? Just offer her more pesos more before getting to the point of buying a phone? 500 pesos more is cheaper and easier to accomplish instead of having to buy a phone that she may not even keep because she is hoping to get a better phone from somebody else.
And it's not like a guy has a definitive arrangement with the chica that he'll get some sort of special service if he buys a phone. Thats just something a typical guy assumes when he sets out to bring some chica a gift. If a guy never pursued the special service before, how does he know he couldn't have got the same service without having to bring a gift? When my blondie chica was injured and couldn't fuck, she still wanted to keep working.
So back in August she got me off with excellent BBBJ with CIM skills. Some dudes pay chicas extra for that. But because she needed to keep working she had to adjust her services so she wouldn't lose clients because she couldn't fuck them. My point being. Keeping a dude as a client in a fierce competitive market is their incentive for providing the services a dude wants. If we assume we have to buy a gift to get special services without 1st attempting to get the service without the gift, is doing oneself a disservice, IMO. The bottom line is, we have feelings too. We do things for these chicas because it makes us feel good doing it. Problem though, is often these chicas don't respond logically/accordingly to kind gestures in the spirit the gift is intended. Thats not just chicas, that might be any Dominican. You ever been around a Dominican friend who observes his foreign friend pay too much for something? That shit gets under their skin, because they think you are wasting your money, doing something that isn't necessary. It especially bothers them if they think you could have been giving them the money / gifts you are throwing away.
Don't think chicas arent aware of our propensities to be emotionally attached to giving gifts (tips, propinas etc ). They benefit from that emotional attachment.
BTW Yunelis went to the bathroom and when she came up behind me she stops to talk to me. She sarcastically tells me "thank you" for buying her the beer. I guess her ego was bruised when her plan to get me to pay for her beer back fired. I used that moment to nicely scold her for doing that. Told her I choose when to buy a woman a beer, you dont ask me to buy you a beer. And you dont order anything and have somebody send me your bill. She listened, but simply walked away. Now she knows, I aint the same dude she used to fuck a year ago.
Mr Enternational
01-29-14, 15:16
And it's not like a guy has a definitive arrangement with the chica that he'll get some sort of special service if he buys a phone. Thats just something a typical guy assumes when he sets out to bring some chica a gift. If a guy never pursued the special service before, how does he know he couldn't have got the same service without having to bring a gift?Amen to that brother. Cause I have gotten plenty of special services, but I have never bought/brought shit. But then to me what other guys call special services, I call basic. All pizzas come with tomato sauce and cheese. When I settle on a price it is all-inclusive just like those resorts around there.
The bottom line is, we have feelings too. We do things for these chicas because it makes us feel good doing it.LOL. Man I just said that yesterday in the Angeles City thread. Guys do all kinds of stuff that is not necessary, not because that is what the girl wants or requires, but because it makes them feel good about themselves. With a regular chick yes, but with a hooker? Get the fuck out of here.
It's not complicated. Just tell them to give you 40000 pesos and you will buy it and bring it back for them next time. That will stop all of that. The problem is when they see cake daddies doing it for their friends or guys buying them on ebay passing them out. Why even put the thought in their heads by opening up that can of worms? You are still going to get the pussy like everybody else and it's not going to feel any different. You think her mouth will get wetter when she sucks your dick because you gave her a phone? The girls don't realize how much these things cost. They think we get them significantly cheaper, which we don't. They also think we are rich because we have trained them to think that way by doing shit like that. My girlfriend has a BlackBerry. I have a Galaxy S1. A couple of months ago we were talking about how we didn't like iPhones. She said that she wanted to get her a Galaxy S4. I told her that I hope she had an extra 40000 pesos laying around, because that is how much they cost. That is two months salary for her. She hasn't wanted a Galaxy S4 since.Reminds me of the Dominican manager of the car rental place I use. He took me to the airport back in Nov, and asked me to buy him a small laptop and that he would pay me next time I come with the laptop.
I told him, give me the money now, do the research on the internet. Send me the information by email and I'll buy it and bring it back. After I said that. He basically changed his mind altogether. My guess is, he was hoping I would buy the laptop, and end up gifting it to him when I came back. If a chica wants to ask for shit, she is more than welcome to waste her time. As long as I know how to conduct myself, I'm good. I prefer to simply ignore their requests when they text me. I don't get many face to face requests for shit from chicas. It's usually them texting or emailing me. That could mean, I might be just one link in a chain of dudes all getting the same request from the same chica.
She's a hooker if you pay for a service, that's clear. What if she's a part time hooker who's got a normal job? Or what if she does not ask for money, but expects some compensation from you?
Man I just said that yesterday in the Angeles City thread. Guys do all kinds of stuff that is not necessary, not because that is what the girl wants or requires, but because it makes them feel good about themselves. With a regular chick yes, but with a hooker? Get the fuck out of here.
She said I don't have any money left right now.
I refused of course and she became just a bit colder.
I guess it's time to switch to another chica LOL.
I told him, give me the money now, do the research on the internet. Send me the information by email and I'll buy it and bring it back. After I said that. He basically changed his mind altogether. My guess is, he was hoping I would buy the laptop, and end up gifting it to him when I came back. If a chica wants to ask for shit, she is more than welcome to waste her time. As long as I know how to conduct myself, I'm good. I prefer to simply ignore their requests when they text me. I don't get many face to face requests for shit from chicas. It's usually them texting or emailing me. That could mean, I might be just one link in a chain of dudes all getting the same request from the same chica.
Mr Enternational
01-29-14, 16:33
I don't get many face to face requests for shit from chicas. It's usually them texting or emailing me. That could mean, I might be just one link in a chain of dudes all getting the same request from the same chica.Some years back a famous hooker in Rio named Lebara sent out a mass request for money and forgot to mask it by BCC, using CC instead. Of course I was not one of the marks, but my fraternity brother who was forwarded it to me. And they thought they were special.
At least for a while. Problem is, they got used to this really quick, want more next time and it stops working.
And it's not like a guy has a definitive arrangement with the chica that he'll get some sort of special service if he buys a phone. Thats just something a typical guy assumes when he sets out to bring some chica a gift. If a guy never pursued the special service before, how does he know he couldn't have got the same service without having to bring a gift? When my blondie chica was injured and couldn't fuck, she still wanted to keep working.
I guess I'm not such a pervert after all LOL.
I do not think buying a Galaxy is stupid in of itself. I think it's unwise to do so indiscriminately. If one is to buy something, buy something that is practical and affordable (a BB or cheap knock off) , and make that chica understand she has to earn her way to a Galaxy.
Mr Enternational
01-29-14, 16:42
She's a hooker if you pay for a service, that's clear. What if she's a part time hooker who's got a normal job? Or what if she does not ask for money, but expects some compensation from you?Most guys here want to glam it up and say she is not a hooker, she is just poor. I say bullshit. If the only reason you are fucking her is because you are going to give her money then she is a hooker. I have fucked plenty of poor women who didn't expect a damn thing and I'm still getting together with them to this day. So with them I know it is not about the money. An old litmus test is to show up without any money. You will learn fast who is a hooker and who is not. Like Wrx said, tell them you don't have any money and see if you are still mi amor and they are so anxious to fuck.
Some passed the test, brought some gifts comparable with payment in such cases. That's a thin and blurry line between hooker and 'normal' chica in DR.
And even have an experience when hooker said she doesn't want money because she likes me so much, paid her anyway, seemed like an 'honest' thing to do. Stupid me?
Most guys here want to glam it up and say she is not a hooker, she is just poor. I say bullshit. If the only reason you are fucking her is because you are going to give her money then she is a hooker. I have fucked plenty of poor women who didn't expect a damn thing and I'm still getting together with them to this day. So with them I know it is not about the money. An old litmus test is to show up without any money. You will learn fast who is a hooker and who is not.
Sounds a bit strange.
If she takes the money you give her she becomes a hooker and if she refuses she's a good girl?
If the only reason you are fucking her is because you are going to give her money then she is a hooker.
Mr Enternational
01-29-14, 17:21
Sounds a bit strange.
If she takes the money you give her she becomes a hooker and if she refuses she's a good girl?LOL. Why are you trying to give her money / gifts after sex if you don't suspect her to be a hooker? Do you do the same with women back home? The other day at home in Atlanta I fucked a Puerto Rican chick who I had just met. Do you think when she got dressed to go home Sunday morning that I handed her $20, $40, or $100 or an iPhone or some bullshit? No, because I know she is not a hooker and I'm not trying to insult someone by assuming they are. Trust me, if she came to get paid then she is not going to forget to ask for her paycheck.
I don't think there is a thin line at all in DR. And hookers there do give freebies at times you know? A few years ago there used to be a chick named Jenny when the girls used to hang in front of Europa. That is when I first started going to Sosua. She told me that she would fuck me for free. That was fine with me, so I took her inside and knocked her off. And she was the truth! My next trip to Sosua I went and found her and told her that I wanted to fuck. She said okay, but you have to pay me this time. I said of course; I got you. And the trip after that she started looking past her Sosua expiration date so that was that on that.
I'm so used to hookers in DR, my hand moves to my wallet instinctively LOL.
LOL. Why are you trying to give her money / gifts after sex if you don't suspect her to be a hooker? Do you do the same with women back home? The other day at home in Atlanta I fucked a Puerto Rican chick who I had just met. Do you think when she got dressed to go home Sunday morning that I handed her $20, $40, or $100 or an iPhone or some bullshit? No, because I know she is not a hooker.
I don't think there is a thin line at all in DR. And hookers there do give freebies at times you know? A few years ago there used to be a chick named Jenny when the girls used to hang in front of Europa. That is when I first started going to Sosua. She told me that she would fuck me for free. That was fine with me, so I took her inside and knocked her off. And she was the truth! My next trip to Sosua I went and found her and told her that I wanted to fuck. She said okay, but you have to pay me this time. I said of course; I got you. And the trip after that she started looking past her Sosua expiration date so that was that on that.
SavePros321
01-29-14, 17:35
Really enjoy reading your posts and prospectives bro, especially stuff like this:
Just yesterday, this one chica I know found out I was back in Sosua. She asked me where I was. I said I was with friends at Rockys. What does this chica do? 10 minutes later she shows up there. She got a quick surprise. 2 of us sitting there talking had already fucked her, and my friend next to me had just got her number 3 nights ago. So when she rolls up to Rockys, she got a huge surprise and tried to play it off as if she was just walking by. The transparency of many of these chicas is amazing. The only thing important to her is making that money.
Please keep them coming!
It's interesting how easy it is for Dominicanas to beg gringos for stuff compared to Colombianas. Maybe because of the proximity of the DR to the US?
I have been to Colombia 6 times in the past two years and I can flirt and chat with chicas I've just met or reapeated multiple times with via Facebook and whatsapp without them asking me for anything other than "cuando regresas?" Some have tried to "hint" at it (like saying their sister or child is in the hospital) , but they have never asked for money or to send money.
Contrast that with Dominicanas. Chicas I've met on Dominican Cupid and have never met in person are (usually by the second conversation) rattling off a list of problems in their lives (no dinero, no comida, no trabajo, etc) or asking me to bring them shit or put minutes on their phones.
This makes it hard to try to set anything up with them prior to a trip, or maintain contact after one.
The fact that they want things is the lure to get what you want. You are not looking a girl friend you are looking for good sex and company. These girls are not fucking us because of good looks / It is P4P even with the non pros. They want a material gain or they are wasting their time. I got no problem with that. If the chica meets my requirements I find out what she wants to satisfy her needs. I will buy a refurbished smart phone under $150. This gift is a game changer I also throw in a few extras if the service is working. Perfume, lotions and other inexpensive gifts from the dollar store trinkets that they love Generally I spend 3 days with the lady and give about $200 in gifts and maybe $75 in travel fees. This much less then I would spend on working putas and SWs. I tend to fuck them morning noon and night. Plus the sex is way better because the girl is trying hard win you over. There are some greedy girls every where but you have to know how to manage them. I dangle the hope of being with me again and giving them a very good time. I take them to dinner Dancing (decent latin dancer) hotels, casinos and the beach. Usually I am having fun and they do to. Most have never seen this side of life.
In conclusion you control the encounter. They want your money more then you want the pussy. They know there are countless girls willing to bang your brains out. Use there greed against them I you want to make them think you are vulnerable. No problem Just know you got the gold and you rule.
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Really enjoy reading your posts and prospectives bro, especially stuff like this:
Please keep them coming!
It's interesting how easy it is for Dominicanas to beg gringos for stuff compared to Colombianas. Maybe because of the proximity of the DR to the US?
I have been to Colombia 6 times in the past two years and I can flirt and chat with chicas I've just met or reapeated multiple times with via Facebook and whatsapp without them asking me for anything other than "cuando regresas?" Some have tried to "hint" at it (like saying their sister or child is in the hospital) , but they have never asked for money or to send money.
Contrast that with Dominicanas. Chicas I've met on Dominican Cupid and have never met in person are (usually by the second conversation) rattling off a list of problems in their lives (no dinero, no comida, no trabajo, etc) or asking me to bring them shit or put minutes on their phones.
This makes it hard to try to set anything up with them prior to a trip, or maintain contact after one.
Chicas coming up to me in the clubs when I want space! After the hellos and where you froms I ask her to buy me a drink before she asked me. While paying a chica for her "time" tell her "now you are going to buy me a drink the next time I see you aren't you". Watch her avoid your ass instead of back in your face the next day begging for a drinks. These Dominican Guys trying to get close to you just to bum money or drinks. Tell them "all I have is dick sucking money and you don't want that Do you"? Or "Man I just got money for pussy. You got pussy"? If that's too hard," I don't give free money to chicos but fine me a good chica and we can do business'!
Before arriving in Sosua I receive this from a chica I haven't even been with. I am sick can please send money to help. God bless you. I responded to her "oh my gosh you can have everthing in my right pocket and gave her a photo. Day 2 on the strip guess who I run into looking like she just came out the gym! I told her she was fine as fuck but she has too much game. And she had a herp on her lip.
Tempoecorto
01-30-14, 01:19
Most guys here want to glam it up and say she is not a hooker, she is just poor. I say bullshit. If the only reason you are fucking her is because you are going to give her money then she is a hooker.C'mon Sir! It is puerile mental masturbation. This on and off, hooker or no-hooker discourse! Not everyone, certainly not the undersigned, is so irresistible that girls half my age, line up to fuck me for free. I am told that there are exceptions but for the rest of the universe, it is perfectly okay to pay, in cash, in kind or both, especially if the deal gets done by the lubricating power of money. I was in Raleigh, NC and got lucky with a regular customer at a McD and when we left a motel a few hours later, it was about 6 PM, I invited her for dinner. Was she a hooker? I do not think so but who gives a hoot? Besides, one does buy gifts or dinner for even girlfriends (and wife to boot) , to get in the end, into her pants. So where is the problem or is there a puritan morality angle here, that just eludes me?
Tempoecorto
01-30-14, 01:55
I probably will not call one of my favorite chicas next time I'm in DR just because I'm tired of hearing this Galaxy BS.Well, let's keep things in perspective! A galaxy S1 or similar can be bought for about $100 or so back home, which is tantamount to an overnight lay in Sosua, I read on this forum. If, by giving that, you get to keep your "favorite" one. Which I presume will get you at least One whole day's if not more lays, I think, the phone has done its job. On the other hand, if the female is looking for a S4 only, then perhaps going the route you are planning is the right path.
What I find amazing is a constant bitching about women in Sosua forum. No one wants to be openly called a "puta" and so it is natural even the hard core ones would try to save their face. I cannot imagine doing what they do, is particularly self-actualizing: it is a bloody job, often unpleasant with schmucks around! It is also important to remember that for Sosua chicks and for the professionals, a phone, other than a status symbol, is also a tool for their trade. (in NV, may be those would be tax deductible as well LOL) as Frannie has pointed out in the past. This is not to say that the rest of the Island is not infatuated with "galaxi" but perhaps or at least, you get better satisfaction?
From the time I started having time to spend with different girls in the DR I have had on several occasions had the ladies leave what I know to be important stuff in my auto and room. I know these ladies for sure has very little to there name so why would they risk leaving anything that is theirs. Especially things like passports jewelry I'd's etc. I have at this time been able to return all items to them but who knows what could happen. I personally think this is a huge risk for them even if they do think they have hooked the big one.
And she's not exactly asking, but when you hear that she really needs it 10-20 times per day it becomes really annoying.
Well, let's keep things in perspective! A galaxy S1 or similar can be bought for about $100 or so back home, which is tantamount to an overnight lay in Sosua, I read on this forum. If, by giving that, you get to keep your "favorite" one. Which I presume will get you at least One whole day's if not more lays, I think, the phone has done its job. On the other hand, if the female is looking for a S4 only, then perhaps going the route you are planning is the right path.
What I find amazing is a constant bitching about women in Sosua forum. No one wants to be openly called a "puta" and so it is natural even the hard core ones would try to save their face. I cannot imagine doing what they do, is particularly self-actualizing: it is a bloody job, often unpleasant with schmucks around! It is also important to remember that for Sosua chicks and for the professionals, a phone, other than a status symbol, is also a tool for their trade. (in NV, may be those would be tax deductible as well LOL) as Frannie has pointed out in the past. This is not to say that the rest of the Island is not infatuated with "galaxi" but perhaps or at least, you get better satisfaction?
At least for a while. Problem is, they got used to this really quick, want more next time and it stops working.I have bought electronics for chicas. But they werent chicas I just met, we had established a little something. And the gifts were things I may have bought without them asking for it. I wasnt expecting any special service. But I was doing it because I felt good doing it. Can't lie about that. IMO, nothing wrong with doing for chicas that are already giving you GFE. I just don't like the idea of a chica I just met asking me to buy her things when I can easily guess a dozen other dudes she is probably fucking are also being asked to bring gifts (sometimes the same gift ). To me thats not maintaining GFE with a chica, thats more like being Donald Chump.
I do have to say this though. Even with the chicas I had GFE with, and bought them things. Their appreciation seems to only be short lived. After a short period they own the gift and it seems they easily detach themselves from the person who gave it to them in the 1st place. The main thing that may bring their attention back to the gifter, is when they want something else. Like a hungry house cat. Once they get what they want (get fed) they go about their business again. So maybe with some chicas the best strategy is to keep them "hungry", and control how much they "eat" (gifts, benefits, money ). Don't put a self feeding bowl in front of them. Make them earn their "meals" every step of the way.
Well, let's keep things in perspective! A galaxy S1 or similar can be bought for about $100 or so back home, which is tantamount to an overnight lay in Sosua, I read on this forum. If, by giving that, you get to keep your "favorite" one. Which I presume will get you at least One whole day's if not more lays, I think, the phone has done its job. On the other hand, if the female is looking for a S4 only, then perhaps going the route you are planning is the right path.
What I find amazing is a constant bitching about women in Sosua forum. No one wants to be openly called a "puta" and so it is natural even the hard core ones would try to save their face. I cannot imagine doing what they do, is particularly self-actualizing: it is a bloody job, often unpleasant with schmucks around! It is also important to remember that for Sosua chicks and for the professionals, a phone, other than a status symbol, is also a tool for their trade. (in NV, may be those would be tax deductible as well LOL) as Frannie has pointed out in the past. This is not to say that the rest of the Island is not infatuated with "galaxi" but perhaps or at least, you get better satisfaction?What you should be amazed at, is you bitching of mongers in the Sosua forum which is designed for MEN to share perspectives and trip reports.
You simply can't resist a dig towards fellow mongers can you? I notice you always can point out your disdain for mongers who don't post according to your sensitivities, but you don't offer much support or perspective (not that anybody is starving for it from you) towards mongers concerns. This is a mens club, not a chica club. Its about time men have a forum to ***** (thats your negative term because you want to disparage the mens intent here) or in this case I call it discussing opinions, experiences and perspectives. If you don't like what you see, then don't read the shit. Its just that simple. We don't need no Cap N Sav a h o e types here who can constantly defend women / chicas / prostitutes , and express empathy, and is openly understanding of chicas potential concerns, at the drop of a dime, but when it comes to men in this forum, you are gonna judge what you see as certain men are bitching. Dudes are merely speaking their minds. Why we dont see the same effort of understanding or empathy when it comes to men here, but you can show it for chicas? You should have more in common with men here than you do chicas. Whats the deal?
If ya just stick to sharing your perspective on the issue, all will be well. But all that other editorial towards members here is unnecessary. And if you don't like certain ***** comments. Tell that mug to his cyber face in this forum or in PM. You don't need to disguise your contempt by spinning it off on somebody elses post. Like I said before, were men here, were just talking / sharing.
What do we all do when we need cash? We go to the ATM. What do the chicas do when they need cash? Just step outside. The streets are their ATM. Just remember that and put that in the front of your mind.I gotcha! Also? What do the people that control the ATM's do when someone with bad intentions tries to tamper with or scam the ATM machine in order to get money the scammer didn't earn? They get exposed and dealt with accordingly. Even ATM's need to have protective measures in place to make sure the right people are getting the deserved benefits from that ATM.
Two thumbs up! LOL.
I gotcha! Also? What do the people that control the ATM's do when someone with bad intentions tries to tamper with or scam the ATM machine in order to get money the scammer didn't earn? They get exposed and dealt with accordingly. Even ATM's need to have protective measures in place to make sure the right people are getting the deserved benefits from that ATM.
Chicas coming up to me in the clubs when I want space! After the hellos and where you froms I ask her to buy me a drink before she asked me. While paying a chica for her "time" tell her "now you are going to buy me a drink the next time I see you aren't you". Watch her avoid your ass instead of back in your face the next day begging for a drinks. These Dominican Guys trying to get close to you just to bum money or drinks. Tell them "all I have is dick sucking money and you don't want that Do you"? Or "Man I just got money for pussy. You got pussy"? If that's too hard," I don't give free money to chicos but fine me a good chica and we can do business'!
Before arriving in Sosua I receive this from a chica I haven't even been with. I am sick can please send money to help. God bless you. I responded to her "oh my gosh you can have everthing in my right pocket and gave her a photo. Day 2 on the strip guess who I run into looking like she just came out the gym! I told her she was fine as fuck but she has too much game. And she had a herp on her lip.don't wear yourself out too much with using clever comebacks for those types. Because it will be a full time job, and eventually you'll sound like an insincere broken record. It's best to combine good body language skills with simply saying "no gracias". And leave it like that.
For instance. I might be sitting at Rockys chillin, minding my own business. While there, panhandlers, venders and touts are passing by on the regular. I acknowledge their presence, but I don't allow them to engage me in any lengthly exchange. I look their way for a brief moment, say "no gracias", and look away and go back to what I was doing. If I am having a conversation with someone, I keep right on talking, since I take them interrupting as them being disrespectful towards me. And I won't allow them to disrespect my space.
On occasion I asked a guy did he respect my friend? He kept asking my friend to look / buy something. My friend kept saying no several times. So when I asked him did he respect my friend, I guess he didn't know where I was going with that question. But he said."Yes I respect him". I said,"well he told you several times "NO" he is not interested, but you keep asking him"."If you respect him, then why do you keep asking and standing there?". Guy absorbed what I said in an instant, said slightly sarcastically,"thank you" and walked off. I guarantee when he sees me again, his time standing in front of me holding his wares will be cut down to 20 seconds or less instead of 2 minutes. But realistically, that might only last a month. He will back to his usual next trip. LOL. I have asked panhandlers the same question about them respecting me. Which usually results in them leaving me alone. But the effectiveness is how and what you communicate in your body language when you are approached.
With chicas sitting in the club. Generally, I don't like chicas coming up to me asking me to buy them drinks. I would likely refuse or just keep walking. Because I think it is a test. If I sit down to talk to a chica and she comes right out asking me to buy her a drink, my interest starts to fade right at that moment. If I sit down to talk to a chica, I will offer a drink to a chica I intend to converse with. But even then, in Sosua and in the club that could be construed as you putting the girl on the clock. How I respond to offering drinks to chicas depends on what I'm observing in that moment. No hard / fast rules.
Before arriving in Sosua I receive this from a chica I haven't even been with. I am sick can please send money to help. God bless you. I responded to her "oh my gosh you can have everthing in my right pocket and gave her a photo. Day 2 on the strip guess who I run into looking like she just came out the gym! I told her she was fine as fuck but she has too much game. And she had a herp on her lip.Some may recall a story I shared here of a chica I fucked one morning, and the next day she texted me to tell me she was in PP and needed me to bring 2000 pesos to pay for a clinic bill. Ignored her request. Then she started blowing up my phone. I ignored her calls. The next day I bust her in Sosua when she passes by Rocky's. Chica feels she needs to think quick, so she immediately holds out her arm and shows me a mark that was probably there since she was a little girl. But I was supposed to believe that was what she needed the 2000 pesos for. Now I see her almost everyday, and all we do is acknowledge each other and exchange "I know what you did last trip" looks. LOL
No bowl for them.
Making them earn their "meals" is not an easy task though, but I guess these are rules of the game.
I do have to say this though. Even with the chicas I had GFE with, and bought them things. Their appreciation seems to only be short lived. After a short period they own the gift and it seems they easily detach themselves from the person who gave it to them in the 1st place. The main thing that may bring their attention back to the gifter, is when they want something else. Like a hungry house cat. Once they get what they want (get fed) they go about their business again. So maybe with some chicas the best strategy is to keep them "hungry", and control how much they "eat" (gifts, benefits, money ). Don't put a self feeding bowl in front of them. Make them earn their "meals" every step of the way.
Really enjoy reading your posts and prospectives bro, especially stuff like this:
Please keep them coming!
It's interesting how easy it is for Dominicanas to beg gringos for stuff compared to Colombianas. Maybe because of the proximity of the DR to the US?
I have been to Colombia 6 times in the past two years and I can flirt and chat with chicas I've just met or reapeated multiple times with via Facebook and whatsapp without them asking me for anything other than "cuando regresas?" Some have tried to "hint" at it (like saying their sister or child is in the hospital) , but they have never asked for money or to send money.
Contrast that with Dominicanas. Chicas I've met on Dominican Cupid and have never met in person are (usually by the second conversation) rattling off a list of problems in their lives (no dinero, no comida, no trabajo, etc) or asking me to bring them shit or put minutes on their phones.
This makes it hard to try to set anything up with them prior to a trip, or maintain contact after one.I can relate. You know that. Now if a dude wants to minimize some of that, they would need to look for women that fit a certain profile. They are regular, non pro women that work and earn a decent living. Maybe she is an attorney, doctor, teacher, salesperson, business owner, etc. I know of one regular woman that lives in Santiago. She co-owns a salon, and I met her on DC. Trouble was, I was not that attracted to her, and also I didn't want to start a relationship. My preference is for variety. And p4p in DR provides that. I do believe though there are women on DC that have more class and know how to conduct themselves, even though they want the same things the barracudas want when they get with a man.
No bowl for them.
Making them earn their "meals" is not an easy task though, but I guess these are rules of the game.Please elaborate? Whats not easy about it? The mechanics is easy. Getting past "our feelings", guilt, habit,concerns the chica is going to cut you off,slight you or think ill of you and caught up in routine ( because thats how I was raised ) that's the challenge. All of those things are the attributes / variables that chicas have or can use as an advantage over us. In other words, we give them the power by being in doubt or not in control. I used to have a saying. Haven't used it in a while, but it's fitting here."DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND LET YOUR FEELINGS CATCH UP WITH YOU LATER"
Or maybe sometimes a food also. Only when you think about repeating with her, any gifts should be considered. If chica smart enough, after receiving a gift she will figure out what kind of special service (for each guy this could be different, some will like an anal or unexpected BJ on the beach) she can provide in order to keep gifts coming in the future. If not, stop giving her gifts and try another one.
I have bought electronics for chicas. But they werent chicas I just met, we had established a little something. And the gifts were things I may have bought without them asking for it. I wasnt expecting any special service. But I was doing it because I felt good doing it. Can't lie about that. IMO, nothing wrong with doing for chicas that are already giving you GFE. I just don't like the idea of a chica I just met asking me to buy her things when I can easily guess a dozen other dudes she is probably fucking are also being asked to bring gifts (sometimes the same gift ). To me thats not maintaining GFE with a chica, thats more like being Donald Chump.
For me and for some other mongers this is what gives DR completely different feel comparing to German FKKs for example.
Please elaborate? Whats not easy about it? The mechanics is easy. Getting past "our feelings", guilt, habit and routine that's the challenge. All of those things are the attributes / variables that chicas have as an advantage over us. In other words, we give them the power by being in doubt or not in control. I used to have a saying. Haven't used it in a while, but it's fitting here."DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND LET YOUR FEELINGS CATCH UP WITH YOU LATER"
For me and for some other mongers this is what gives DR completely different feel comparing to German FKKs for example.Exactly. IMO, declinging gifts / requests you arent destroying the GFE illusion. You are destroying the pretense of something that is not in existence. The illusion hasnt gone anywhere. And when you do that and the person jets or exits stage left, think about it? Do you really want that person? Do you really feel comfortable accepting something that isn't real? If a dude is going to be involved in gifting, why not just give what you are willing to lose? Within reason / your budget? But don't go overboard, because that makes you appear unwise pursuing the GFE illusion. But to give gifts or honor requests to anyone who doesn't appreciate the gesture, makes no sense. If I find myself doing that, I try to nip that in the bud with a quickness.
I guess I still need to learn to part with ungrateful chicas faster, even when she used to be one of my favorite in the past.
Exactly. IMO, declinging gifts / requests you arent destroying the GFE illusion. You are destroying the pretense of something that is not in existence. The illusion hasnt gone anywhere. And when you do that and the person jets or exits stage left, think about it? Do you really want that person? Do you really feel comfortable accepting something that isn't real? If a dude is going to be involved in gifting, why not just give what you are willing to lose? Within reason / your budget? But don't go overboard, because that makes you appear unwise pursuing the GFE illusion. But to give gifts or honor requests to anyone who doesn't appreciate the gesture, makes no sense. If I find myself doing that, I try to nip that in the bud with a quickness.
Tempoecorto
01-30-14, 17:03
What you should be amazed at, is you bitching of mongers in the Sosua forum which is designed for MEN to share perspectives and trip reports.Perhaps I am not a man! Actually, I have not seen anyone bitching as much as you do.
My perspective is simple even when my graduate degree in not in psychology, nor am I the Dalai Lama: In life you get what you dish out: you get to associate with the kind you apparently dislike and that then has the multiplier effect of self fulfilling prophecy, judging by your prolific advisories with your bias. So, let others ask specific questions like many do and judge by their own experience / bias without clouding their judgment. Besides, do the grown ups (by my count, many are seniors) , need as much saving as you are doing?
I am not a Sosua resident nor do I care much about it or about places like Pattaya or Patpong but here is my request. If you complain so much about Sosua women and men that are leeches, just spend your time outside of it. Scout the world out: may be, just may be, you will grow a new perspective.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1525740]don't wear yourself out too much with using clever comebacks for those types. Because it will be a full time job, and eventually you'll sound like an insincere broken record. It's best to combine good body language skills with simply saying "no gracias". And leave it like that.
On occasion I asked a guy did he respect my friend? He kept asking my friend to look / buy something. My friend kept saying no several times. So when I asked him did he respect my friend, I guess he didn't know where I was going with that question. But he said."Yes I respect him". I said,"well he told you several times "NO" he is not interested, but you keep asking him"."If you respect him, then why do you keep asking and standing there?". Guy absorbed what I said in an instant, said slightly sarcastically,"thank you" and walked off. I guarantee when he sees me again, his time standing in front of me holding his wares will be cut down to 20 seconds or less instead of 2 minutes. But realistically, that might only last a month. He will back to his usual next trip. LOL. I have asked panhandlers the same question about them respecting me. Which usually results in them leaving me alone. But the effectiveness is how and what you communicate in your body language when you are approached.
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Here a mirror for you. Just say no gracias and leave it like that. (For Panhandlers) Don't wear yourself out too much with using clever comebacks for those types eventually you'll sound like an insincere broken record. (I say this jokingly) My comebacks are really aimed at newbies. Its useful for newbies who find themselves in these situations a lot. After remembering my first trip and observing other newbies, No gracias is not very effective for a begging chicas you screwed last night or chicos befriending you using English to sharing a friendly 2 minute conversation just for a setup. They can make you feel obligated for there friendly dealings with you. I know I know Mr. E and Olkool right now you are saying " You don't owe them shit!" but when you are new to a country and young in the game it happens! (or maybe it just was me) I couldn't agree with you more body language is supreme, but that comes with experience in less you are a natural. I don't get to use my comebacks often anymore. My new friend get targeted- I get bypassed. I took me a few trips to get my body language in order. Experience means you are not fucking wildly. Your encounters are more calculated and you can go to bed nights without a hit, headaches, and major problems. Hint hint LOL Have you broken the drought? Please keep the observation coming. I want to hear how your Super Bowl theory pans out!
Mr Enternational
01-30-14, 17:57
I have bought electronics for chicas. But they werent chicas I just met, we had established a little something. And the gifts were things I may have bought without them asking for it. I wasnt expecting any special service. But I was doing it because I felt good doing it. Can't lie about that. IMO, nothing wrong with doing for chicas that are already giving you GFE. I just don't like the idea of a chica I just met asking me to buy her things when I can easily guess a dozen other dudes she is probably fucking are also being asked to bring gifts (sometimes the same gift ). To me thats not maintaining GFE with a chica, thats more like being Donald Chump.
I do have to say this though. Even with the chicas I had GFE with, and bought them things. Their appreciation seems to only be short lived. After a short period they own the gift and it seems they easily detach themselves from the person who gave it to them in the 1st place. The main thing that may bring their attention back to the gifter, is when they want something else. Like a hungry house cat. Once they get what they want (get fed) they go about their business again. So maybe with some chicas the best strategy is to keep them "hungry", and control how much they "eat" (gifts, benefits, money ). Don't put a self feeding bowl in front of them. Make them earn their "meals" every step of the way.On the flip side of that, people like you who visit DR frequently may have more time and patience because you know another day will come so you are in no rush to get with any particular chica. You are less anxious than the guy who only travels there once every blue moon or is a first-timer and is at home sex-starved with Betty Boop visions in his eyes. These guys are more likely to be the Donald Chumps. They probably have more money than time and are willing to do what it takes to get the chica they have had their heart set on for so long.
It is also important to remember that for Sosua chicks and for the professionals, a phone, other than a status symbol, is also a tool for their trade. (in NV, may be those would be tax deductible as well LOL) as Frannie has pointed out in the past.Your memory is better than mine, though that sounds like something I might have said.
Chicas like some of the finer things of life, and a smart phone serves as a Facebook connector, music and video player, photograph album, messaging machine and telephone combined, so no wonder they like the larger screen devices.
I think people tend to overthink some of these issues. One of the joys of the DR is that prostitution is completely legal if it is a one-to-one arrangement, whereas in the US it is not. Hence in the US, if you meet women through Craigslist or similar, really it is often pay for play, but both parties go to elaborate lengths to maintain that it is friend-with-benefits, sugar daddy, help-me-with-a-bill, never-done-anything-like-this-before or some similar circumlocution that maintains the convenient legal fiction that it is not prostitution. Not only does this give a figleaf of legal protection if things go wrong, but it also seems more psychologically satisfying on both sides to indulge in a little method acting. In the words of the song: "If that isn't love, it will have to do, Until the real thing comes along."
Now hop over the ocean to the DR and it can be a bit jarring to just want to pay someone a sum for a quickie without any illusions, especially when the real joy of sex with Dominican pros is that if you get it right it can seem just like a fantasy of meeting a cute clean-cut girl (much younger and more attractive than oneself) and having vigorous sex for the relatively short term without making any longer term commitments. This provides a telling antidote to media portrayals of prostitution that usually suggest some hatchet-faced peroxide blonde in a short PVC skirt with nicotine-stained fingers providing sex to make money for her drug addicted pimp by pulling up her skirt against a wall in a back alley strewn with used syringes-or some similar scary scenario.
So I think to make it work requires an element of play acting on both sides. Really it is just good manners for them to pretend they find you incredibly sexy and you to pretend you find them adorable and loveable. Nobody actually believes it, and having met tempoecorto a number of times, I can reassure anyone who thinks that he is some kind of "Captain Save-A-Hoe" that he is as addicted to mongering as anyone on this board and has many years of experience in several countries and thousands of hours of certified pelvic thrusting to prove it.
Some may recall a story I shared here of a chica I fucked one morning, and the next day she texted me to tell me she was in PP and needed me to bring 2000 pesos to pay for a clinic bill. Ignored her request. Then she started blowing up my phone. I ignored her calls. The next day I bust her in Sosua when she passes by Rocky's. Chica feels she needs to think quick, so she immediately holds out her arm and shows me a mark that was probably there since she was a little girl. But I was supposed to believe that was what she needed the 2000 pesos for. Now I see her almost everyday, and all we do is acknowledge each other and exchange "I know what you did last trip" looks. LOLI love it when I see a chica who tried to run game, was a terrible laid, or a very high price again on my next visits. I give them the "you know not to even think about fucking with my group look!" We give them nicknames. Miss 5000 peso, Miss Leche Papi Leche, Miss NMD (need more dinero) , Miss Lay There, etc. I notice chicas love to be acknowledged on the strip. When I see them we black ball the whole group they are in. Of course we don't openly tease. If a chica comes over to someone in our group after seen hanging with a chica on the blackball list I step in "es tu amiga alli". I give my friend the look and he cuts the conversation short respectfully."fue agradable conocerte" I know some many chicas wish they can turn back the hands of time. Miss 5000 has been telling me she will only charge me 1500. She gave my friend that 5000 bid once they got in his room back in June after he bought drinks and food for her and her amigas.
SavePros321
01-30-14, 18:34
She gave my friend that 5000 bid once they got in his room back in June after he bought drinks and food for her and her amigas.No good deed ever goes unpunished!
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