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Tempoecorto
01-30-14, 19:23
Your memory is better than mine, though that sounds like something I might have said.Can't complain about my memory so far! Yes, we usually have discussion going in cycles. Cell phone / gifts are one such item, the other is the ho-non ho, mental masturbation. Your comment was in one such past cycle.
We all make mistakes in our hobby: If you remember Kathy (Jee, she brought her passport to the club when she, me and the second woman went dancing and then gave it to me to safeguard it inside the dance hall and I was saddled with the responsibility and the fear that I might lose it): thanks to her, I met another woman the first trip at the Italian disco, whatever its name was. The second trip to Sosua, I met the second woman again and when with her, bumped into Kathy and in front of her, asked for Kathy's phone number. I wish I had been a little more subtle, stupid me, but whoa, hell hath no greater fury than a woman who sees her meal ticket usurped and I incorrectly, thought the two women were part of the same fraternity / collective bargaining group. LOL. I dropped the woman that night onwards and of course, have not been back to Sosua until Sept 2013, I must admit, for the food!
Sosua, for you who have lived there is a no-brainer (especially compared to the US experience as you describe) but to an idiot like me, who goes to the DR on short trips cannot be a big challenge either: You got to think with your brain and not with the lower appendage, not stay drunk or smoked out, be able to identify the pros (women who speak English are almost always pros) from the weekend warriors, look for the singles rather than women in group, be vigilant but treat the women with a modicum of respect even if you think they are "hos" and most importantly know that you who controls the purse strings, are the boss. How difficult can this be in a place where for one male, there are ten or more females? There are still plenty of guys who keep going back to Sosua and have few or no horror stories that I read of here. Ask Tom Jackin!
I guess I still need to learn to part with ungrateful chicas faster, even when she used to be one of my favorite in the past.We all have our favorites. And yes it may be a little difficult to part with someone that we are comfortable with. When one decides to cut a chica loose that's entirely a personal issue. At the very least a dude can still deal with an ungrateful chica but just make the arrangement strictly p4p and stop the other shit. Or better yet, just put them on operation phase out until they are nothing more than a memory.
On the flip side of that, people like you who visit DR frequently may have more time and patience because you know another day will come so you are in no rush to get with any particular chica. You are less anxious than the guy who only travels there once every blue moon or is a first-timer and is at home sex-starved with Betty Boop visions in his eyes. These guys are more likely to be the Donald Chumps. They probably have more money than time and are willing to do what it takes to get the chica they have had their heart set on for so long.Sad but true bro. And I can relate, as I reflect on how things used to be for me when I Ist started coming.
having met tempoecorto a number of times, I can reassure anyone who thinks that he is some kind of "Captain Save-A-Hoe" that he is as addicted to mongering as anyone on this board and has many years of experience in several countries and thousands of hours of certified pelvic thrusting to prove it.Since that reference was initiated by me. Let me clarify something. Nobody is assuming Tempoecorto IS that. My comments were strictly meant to illustrate how some of his comments represents that CSAH mentality on these boards, towards mongers in this forum.
He underscores SOME mongers discourse here as bitching or whining, but will explain in detail and empathize what chicas may be going through or what they have to deal with. One other poster is good for that. Like when some of us were discussing issues with panhandlers, shoeshine boys and scamming chicas. I recall when I gave a report on my stay at hotel, and this dude wasnt trying to understand where I was coming from, he had already made a judgement of me just because I talked about experiencing cockroaches in my hotel, and I talked about my experience with a few chicas.
Meanwhile let the issue turn towards chicas negative behavior, and you'll see commentary offering an understanding or an explanation justifying their behavior. He just did it. I tend to notice shit like that. Now he's your friend / aquaintance, and the way life works you arent going to give two shits about that. You aint going to see it or acknowledge it. Thats because where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit. I don't have a problem with that. I expect that. Somebody can probably say the same thing for any one of us."Oh that WRX is a stand up guy, you just don't know him". The point is, I'm only addressing the words that are expressed. Not anyones character overall.
What I brought out is a significant difference than what you are talking about. Nobody is assuming how he is in real life.
We all make mistakes in our hobby: If you remember Kathy (Jee, she brought her passport to the club when she, me and the second woman went dancing and then gave it to me to safeguard it inside the dance hall and I was saddled with the responsibility and the fear that I might lose it): thanks to her, I met another woman the first trip at the Italian disco, whatever its name was. The second trip to Sosua, I met the second woman again and when with her, bumped into Kathy and in front of her, asked for Kathy's phone number. I wish I had been a little more subtle, stupid me, but whoa, hell hath no greater fury than a woman who sees her meal ticket usurped and I incorrectly, thought the two women were part of the same fraternity / collective bargaining group. LOL. I dropped the woman that night onwards and of course, have not been back to Sosua until Sept 2013, I must admit, for the food!Yes, I remember Kathy and she me. Last time I saw her I did not recognize her as she had a totally different hair style and color, but she flagged me in the street. Nice girl, very unassuming, but no great screw either. Of her two friends I poked one again not so long ago, and the last I heard of the younger one of the trio of room mates was that she was getting married and going overseas.
Perhaps I am not a man! Actually, I have not seen anyone bitching as much as you do.Neither have I seen anyone ***** about other mongers as much as you do. And you bean count every post you see to come to that conclusion. Why do I have so much of your attention?
In life you get what you dish out: you get to associate with the kind you apparently dislike and that then has the multiplier effect of self fulfilling prophecy, judging by your prolific advisories with your bias.You do realize what you just said applies to my exchange with you. You are getting what you dish out. And you get to associate with the kind you apparently dislike. The multiplier effect, is that I'm going to continue sharing my perspective, and whenever you decide to drop in for one of your routine spineless remarks towards mongers here I will give you what you dish out. So I agree.
So, let others ask specific questions like many do and judge by their own experience / bias without clouding their judgment. Besides, do the grown ups (by my count, many are seniors) , need as much saving as you are doing?can't honor that request Captain. As long as we are operating within the guidelines of this forum, I'll post MY WAY. Not according to you. You just keep coming back to read, so you can continue to be amazed.
here is my request. If you complain so much about Sosua women and men that are leeches, just spend your time outside of it. Scout the world out: may be, just may be, you will grow a new perspective.The only individual beaning counting about complaints is YOU. You are severely outnumbered. You are just one person complaining about what somebody else posts. Here's a better perspective. If you were ALSO wired to bean count all of the enjoyable things I shared here, AND also things I never shared here (because it was not particularly note worthy) , you just might realize that I have quite a balanced perspective. The problem isn't me, it's you who needs a new perspective. Especially in regards to learning how NOT to judge people from a message board. Remember your words, and try to apply it. The only thing you know, is that you know nothing.
Most chicas I have met have only been friends with what they call there Amigas for a short time. So it is not hard at all to get them to turn away and see things your way if you really like them.
I think your vision is very clear. This is P4P but when done with style it can be great for both parties. If chicas are standing you up or trying to rip you off more then likely you are doing something wrong. Even hard core girls want repeat business. They show their raw side when they feel you are treating them like a wash cloth. Therei s no magic to buying pussy only in the DR you can get some extras if you play your cards right that is what I shoot for. 20 year old pussy is a lovely thing when your are closer to 60 then 50.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1525864]Can't complain about my memory so far! Yes, we usually have discussion going in cycles. Cell phone / gifts are one such item, the other is the ho-non ho, mental masturbation. Your comment was in one such past cycle.
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If chicas are standing you up or trying to rip you off more then likely you are doing something wrong. Even hard core girls want repeat business. They show their raw side when they feel you are treating them like a wash cloth.Sometimes it may just be misunderstandings. For example the guy who complains that the girl wants to stop fucking after "only" 20 minutes may not realize that the combination of Viagra, alcohol, and a condom is making at hard for him to climax, and that this in turn is making the girl uncomfortable, sore and possibly vulnerable to infections. Because he prides himself on being a capable businessman who knows how to strike a bargain, he may feel he is being cheated, and she may feel he is being unreasonable, so both sides end up angry with each other and neither understands why the other is angry.
The experienced monger will probably realize that if she is not going to climax, and he is not going to come, then it is probably best to cut bait, settle up, shake hands, hang his pole somewhere else, and put the bum deal down to experience.
Tempoecorto
02-01-14, 06:03
Therei s no magic to buying pussy only in the DR you can get some extras if you play your cards right that is what I shoot for. 20 year old pussy is a lovely thing when your are closer to 60 then 50.LOL. 20 yr old pussy is great at any age!
Speaking of extras, I spent a lot of time traveling to Asia on business and with little time available, have always depended on short term paid deals; Mostly the same for Western Europe. When I first visited the D. R, I was blown away by the fact that a man my age can have access to a regular 20 something and get plenty of extras that you and I seem to enjoy; but even with the Pros, there is no need for fig-leafs of legal fiction as Frannie puts it. It is "Hello, I love you; won't you tell me your name?": so eloquently laid back. No doubt there are bad apples but how can one not see the over-arching simplicity in the pleasures the Island provides, pro, semi pro or whatever?
Marc Anthony
02-01-14, 21:15
Sometimes it may just be misunderstandings. For example the guy who complains that the girl wants to stop fucking after "only" 20 minutes may not realize that the combination of Viagra, alcohol, and a condom is making at hard for him to climax, and that this in turn is making the girl uncomfortable, sore and possibly vulnerable to infections. Because he prides himself on being a capable businessman who knows how to strike a bargain, he may feel he is being cheated, and she may feel he is being unreasonable, so both sides end up angry with each other and neither understands why the other is angry.
The experienced monger will probably realize that if she is not going to climax, and he is not going to come, then it is probably best to cut bait, settle up, shake hands, hang his pole somewhere else, and put the bum deal down to experience.Charles Pooter gave a good example of this awhile back observing guys taking a chica out back at a barrio club and seeing them come back only a few minutes later. He initially assumed they were having some problem closing the deal but realized after a bit that having sex was only taking a few minutes. The first dominican chica I ever had I was with as a kinda novia thing for days at the Sand Trap before it became Blackbeards. She was really treating me like a novia but she'd constantly be asking for Leche after only a few minutes. She was quite willing to do it 5 times a day wherever I pleased but that was her understanding of sex. A few minutes of thrusting and busting a nut. I'm confident she would have been exactly the same with young dominican BF and that in her experience that's what he would expect too.
Charles Pooter gave a good example of this awhile back observing guys taking a chica out back at a barrio club and seeing them come back only a few minutes later. He initially assumed they were having some problem closing the deal but realized after a bit that having sex was only taking a few minutes. The first dominican chica I ever had I was with as a kinda novia thing for days at the Sand Trap before it became Blackbeards. She was really treating me like a novia but she'd constantly be asking for Leche after only a few minutes. She was quite willing to do it 5 times a day wherever I pleased but that was her understanding of sex. A few minutes of thrusting and busting a nut. I'm confident she would have been exactly the same with young dominican BF and that in her experience that's what he would expect too.I am pretty sure the reason why they are so accustomed to fast sex is because 99. 999% of the young Dominican men, do not wear condoms! They slide in bare back and it only takes a few pumps for them to bust a nut. Meanwhile the gringos go down there with Cialis and Kevlar coated condoms and we can fuck for 2 hours straight without cumming and the girls get annoyed at how long it takes.
Manizales911
02-01-14, 23:34
I am pretty sure the reason why they are so accustomed to fast sex is because 99. 999% of the young Dominican men, do not wear condoms! They slide in bare back and it only takes a few pumps for them to bust a nut. Meanwhile the gringos go down there with Cialis and Kevlar coated condoms and we can fuck for 2 hours straight without cumming and the girls get annoyed at how long it takes.You are 100% correct. I would also say that this is the reason so many Dominican girls are willing to or encourage us to go bareback.
This club is nothing special two poorly maintained pool tables to medium size rooms. Now what makes the place rock is the 20 young women who are dressed very sexy and have awesome bodies. They also give great lap dances. 10 bucks a shot Honestly rivals Dlatinos for quality. I was made an offer of private services from a young 20 something. The cost is prohibitive. 80 bucks for a hotel and 100 plus for the girl. She looked like your average Rumba chica. For that money I could have 5 sessions in the DR. Because when in clubs in DR you can close the deal for 40 bucks our perspective and approach is very different. In our strip clubs we know we are not scoring. In the DR what ever you see is cheap and on the menu. I use to think DR girls were the hottest thing going. Now I know we have the same thing here but we can not get access. To play with our pros you are looking at 200 to 300 for 30 minutes if you are lucky. 40 in the DR buys up to 2 hours with no holds barred. In the DR you can break out toys and lubes with no fear of rejection.
Club Extacy has given me more respect for the attractiveness of our local talent. I do not work the clubs scene very much. I am told that Extacy is a standard middle of the road club. That being said DC area has some very hot girls working the clubs.
Last night I caught a buzz and was in the back getting a very hot lap dance. Directly across from me was a female getting a lap dance as well. What an amazing treat. Got my voyeur ticket punched as well. WOOOOW
To play with our pros you are looking at 200 to 300 for 30 minutes if you are lucky.Shhhheeeeiittttttt! That's 8000 to 12000 pesos!
Shhhheeeeiittttttt! That's 8000 to 12000 pesos!Mr E came through my town last month, so I scooped him and we hit the strip club (Ponytails). Drinks were 5 USD, entrance was 5 USD (waived because I'm a regular), and the girls did lap dances for 10 USD a song. If you go to the back private rooms its 25-150 for three songs and whatever you negotiate. Me and Mr E just stayed at the bar and tipped the girls dancing on stage (spent 20 dollars on tipping and two drinks).
Oldkool is correct, this shit here in America adds up quick, compared to what we get when we travel.
The girls at the strip clubs in my area tell me some wild stories. The older dudes are super freaks. They say some guys pay 50 just to go to the back rooms and lick the girls sweaty asshole, other guys just want to lick pussy. Most of these girls are lesbos, some on drugs, and some are fishing for high paying clients for after hours. They have usually sucked off the club owner and banged security already. The key is to catch them new. The culture is hard and you can't let your guard down for one second.
Tempoecorto
02-02-14, 06:41
Meanwhile the gringos go down there with Cialis and Kevlar coated condoms and we can fuck for 2 hours straight without cumming and the girls get annoyed at how long it takes.LOL. I completely cracked up with the 'Kevlar coating'! I do remember the anecdote of Charles Pooter as mentioned by Marc Anthony. He was referring to bars in some place close to Pto Pta – La Grua / Imbert or similar.
I would hazard that longer duration is part of a process to make sex not a "male satisfaction only" process. I am also sure the longer duration is at least partly influenced by porn. I would think the practices were quite different even 50 years back in our neck of the woods as well – Kevlar notwithstanding.
A condom should be changed for a new 1 after 30 minutes of fast and hard sex. For safety of both
I always leave it near a bed so chica can use it if she needs to.
A condom should be changed for a new 1 after 30 minutes of fast and hard sex. For safety of both
You are 100% correct. I would also say that this is the reason so many Dominican girls are willing to or encourage us to go bareback.So your experience has been that many of the Dominican girls have encouraged you to go bareback. Would you mind elaborating on that one as I didn't have a single girl encourage me to go bareback during my two weeks back in December.
Mr E came through my town last month, so I scooped him and we hit the strip club (Ponytails). Drinks were 5 USD, entrance was 5 USD (waived because I'm a regular) , and the girls did lap dances for 10 USD a song. If you go to the back private rooms its 25-150 for three songs and whatever you negotiate. Me and Mr E just stayed at the bar and tipped the girls dancing on stage (spent 20 dollars on tipping and two drinks).
Oldkool is correct, this shit here in America adds up quick, compared to what we get when we travel.
The girls at the strip clubs in my area tell me some wild stories. The older dudes are super freaks. They say some guys pay 50 just to go to the back rooms and lick the girls sweaty asshole, other guys just want to lick pussy. Most of these girls are lesbos, some on drugs, and some are fishing for high paying clients for after hours. They have usually sucked off the club owner and banged security already. The key is to catch them new. The culture is hard and you can't let your guard down for one second.I know what you mean the price adds up quickly. The last time I was in a strip club in the US was just before my first DR trip. I haven't been on backpage or a strip club since, but I have been to the DR 13 times in the last 12 months. I guess it all adds up. If I dare go to the strip joint (as we say it) now I'm going to make rain- with handfuls of quarters! That Damn Mr E gets around!
I always leave it near a bed so chica can use it if she needs to.We all at some time think falsely that the chica is moaning because she is enjoying the sex so much. But some of the time its because the chica is hurting. All of us on here can really tell the difference if we choose to. One does not have to make a chica cum but it most defiantly helps the situation of you enjoying yourself to the fullest.
We all at some time think falsely that the chica is moaning because she is enjoying the sex so much. But some of the time its because the chica is hurting.But, don't some get off on that or, conversely, isn't that an occasional turn on?
so your experience has been that many of the dominican girls have encouraged you to go bareback. would you mind elaborating on that one as i didn't have a single girl encourage me to go bareback during my two weeks back in december.of all of the close guys / friends i know that share openly their experiences, coupled with my own, i never got the impression any of those chicas encouraged bareback for the reason manizales911 was signing off on. personally, i experienced girls that didn't have a problem going bareback because they may have a similar problem as men. condom use reduces the sensation considerably. so many chicas will go bareback because they want to enjoy the sex just as much as the man their fucking.
moreover, many chicas have another motivation. many chicas take it personally when a man they are fucking doesn't "leche". many men lose their erections with condom use. the chica who wants to please her client, has to deal with a man with a limp dick. so enough chicas will accommodate some dudes by allowing them to go bareback to make sure they come. but not necessarily encouraging bareback because a guy is taking too long. otth, if a guy is taking too long, some chicas dont do anything to resolve the issue. they just look at it as that mans problem. thats they did their part.
many of the p4p chicas ( and non pros ) doing bareback may have took care of avoiding pregnancy by taking a shot, tube tying or some other means. that may be their main concern, but throw caution to the wind when it comes to hiv and std's. imo thats the reason enough chicas are allowing bareback. they are not overly concerned about hiv or std, but do care about avoiding getting pregnant. unless of course that chica is trying to trap a dude by getting pregnant. i haven't experienced or heard about any chicas encouraging bareback to speed up the session. i see them happening into going bareback because some guys will attempt to slip it in without a condom, and the chica doesn't even flinch. imo it means she wants to enjoy the session just as much as the man. and she wants him to get off.
there are men who have the ability to hold back on coming, even going bareback. and there are chicas who are enjoying every minute of it, not concerned about how long the guy is taking to come. but once his time is up. bareback or not, she is free to leave. she is under no obligation to stay longer to make a guy come.
i will say this. there are many dominican chicas that have very small vagina openings. or maybe they dont even like sex that much. or are disgusted by their client. those chicas are very likely to have a problem with a guy taking too long. going bareback isn't necessarily their solution to reducing their discomfort or disgust though. most chicas seem quite capable of ending a session with a guy ( for whatever reason ) without resorting to going bareback as a solution.
Many of the p4p chicas (and non pros) doing bareback may have took care of avoiding pregnancy by taking a shot, tube tying or some other means. That may be their main concern, but throw caution to the wind when it comes to HIV and STD's. IMO thats the reason enough chicas are allowing bareback. They are not overly concerned about HIV or STD, but do care about avoiding getting pregnant.
Thank you for your take on things but I am confused why you think the p4p chicas are not concerned about getting an STD, this doesn't make sense to me.
Many of the p4p chicas ( and non pros ) doing bareback may have took care of avoiding pregnancy by taking a shot, tube tying or some other means.Many good points. Don't forget that the most common means of contraception is the pill as hormone preparations like Yasmin are available over the counter without prescription in all pharmacies.
If chicas are going with the same guy over any period of time, the switch to bareback will probably occur on the second or third date, I would say.
I must admit that I often (but not always) find it hard to finish with a condom and often have to switch to some other more effective method after fucking. I find two hands plus oil can work well and replicate the bareback experience without the additional risks and complications. In any case a bareback fuck is usually worth three in the condom.
Has anyone ever had a chica insist on some kind of barrier like cling film for cunnilingus? No, I thought not!
Many good points. Don't forget that the most common means of contraception is the pill as hormone preparations like Yasmin are available over the counter without prescription in all pharmacies.
If chicas are going with the same guy over any period of time, the switch to bareback will probably occur on the second or third date, I would say.
I must admit that I often (but not always) find it hard to finish with a condom and often have to switch to some other more effective method after fucking. I find two hands plus oil can work well and replicate the bareback experience without the additional risks and complications. In any case a bareback fuck is usually worth three in the condom.
Has anyone ever had a chica insist on some kind of barrier like cling film for cunnilingus? No, I thought not!Speaking of oral sex. Most of the chicas I've experienced loved having oral done to them. I can probably count only a few times a chica refused or made me stop because she didn't want me to do it or continue. In some cases the reasoning was she knew she was still menstruating, but she didn't want me to get a mouth full of blood. She knew that I would be seriously pissed if that happened. Discovering her menstrual flow during fucking is another story. I'm sure some guys can relate.
Another reason although it seems rare, some chicas like oral done to them, but they don't want to come orally. They want to come with a man inside of them. I recall my ex PP chica who made sure I wore a condom every time without exception. Has done BBBJ w / CIM to me, but had a problem with me making her come orally. If I made her come orally, her interest in continuing with intercourse was almost a chore. It seemed like she lost most of her desire to continue if she came orally. So she would let me get a few minutes in and after that she wanted me to strap up. She got off better when she rode me. She could concentrate on stimulating herself without loosing the feeling.
Saturday 2/1 bumped into a chica I met last Nov at that sandwich shop across from the metro bus station. Took her number, but she wasnt around when I came back in December. While walking on the beach (Sosua) , I spotted 2 chicas walking ahead of us. When we caught up with them, I asked one of them if she was "Yeni". She said no, her name was "Jenny". Well I didn't realize she pronounces her name Yeni as Jenny. I backed off in that moment, somewhat embarrassed that I thought she was someone I knew. Then I looked at my phone found her whatsapp contact info and photo and put it together that it was her.
I showed to her and explained when and where we met. Now she remembered. Ironically, her and her friend were pacing themselves by how we were walking. When we stopped at 64 Jorges restaurant, suddenly they decided to stop too. They got themselves a table, just 20 ft from us. After we all ate at our respective tables, everybody was forced to retreat inside the restaurant because it was raining cats and dogs. While inside made a date with her to come to my spot in an hour.
She came by moto. Chica had a very nice body. Had a decent session with her, but Im sure would have enjoyed it more if I was bareback. Didn't come but hung in there. We cleaned up, and I escorted her back to catch a moto. It was cool to connect with this chica, after having her contact info since Nov. Went out later, and bumped into another chica I had been with a few times. She was a semi regular. Had her come over by moto around midnight. She spent the night. Good times.
Sunday 2/2 I was experiencing the effects of all of the men in town. I only had one chica I know who kept calling or texting me. Every other chica I usually hear from was ghost. One in particular, my cable guys sister, she really surprised me. We had a date on Saturday and she even cancelled. Said lets try tomorrow. Truth was, with the amount of dudes in town as there were, her and enough chicas had their fill of action from dudes that were right there in front of them.
And incidently, thats the reason many chicas may stand a dude up. It aint because he is doing something wrong. Here is an example. A chica is hanging in Rumba or DLatins. You have a date for lets say 10PM. At any time she may get a client ("a bird in the hand") that will take her off the market for a session or for the night. If that happens and it may interfere with her being on time for the date, typically a chica will shoot a message or a call to her "scheduled" date that she can't make it.
Or she'll change the time. Insert lie / reason here______. There aint nothing that dude did wrong. In her mind she is probably thinking, she won't lose you as a client. She'll just put you on hold until she is available. She's got to make that money staring at her in her face. It's just the course of doing business. Just like a hotel changing your reservation when you get there, telling you they are going to put you over here for a few days, then later they will put you in the room you requested. In the DR people very often the " bird in the hand" philosophy prevails over trying to keep a regular customer happy.
Manizales911
02-03-14, 16:02
of all of the close guys / friends i know that share openly their experiences, coupled with my own, i never got the impression any of those chicas encouraged bareback for the reason manizales911 was signing off on. personally, i experienced girls that didn't have a problem going bareback because they may have a similar problem as men. condom use reduces the sensation considerably. so many chicas will go bareback because they want to enjoy the sex just as much as the man their fucking.
moreover, many chicas have another motivation. many chicas take it personally when a man they are fucking doesn't "leche". many men lose their erections with condom use. the chica who wants to please her client, has to deal with a man with a limp dick. so enough chicas will accommodate some dudes by allowing them to go bareback to make sure they come. but not necessarily encouraging bareback because a guy is taking too long. otth, if a guy is taking too long, some chicas don't do anything to resolve the issue. they just look at it as that mans problem. thats they did their part.
many of the p4p chicas (and non pros) doing bareback may have took care of avoiding pregnancy by taking a shot, tube tying or some other means. that may be their main concern, but throw caution to the wind when it comes to hiv and std's. imo thats the reason enough chicas are allowing bareback. they are not overly concerned about hiv or std, but do care about avoiding getting pregnant. unless of course that chica is trying to trap a dude by getting pregnant. i haven't experienced or heard about any chicas encouraging bareback to speed up the session. i see them happening into going bareback because some guys will attempt to slip it in without a condom, and the chica doesn't even flinch. imo it means she wants to enjoy the session just as much as the man. and she wants him to get off.
there are men who have the ability to hold back on coming, even going bareback. and there are chicas who are enjoying every minute of it, not concerned about how long the guy is taking to come. but once his time is up. bareback or not, she is free to leave. she is under no obligation to stay longer to make a guy come.
i will say this. there are many dominican chicas that have very small vagina openings. or maybe they don't even like sex that much. or are disgusted by their client. those chicas are very likely to have a problem with a guy taking too long. going bareback isn't necessarily their solution to reducing their discomfort or disgust though. most chicas seem quite capable of ending a session with a guy (for whatever reason) without resorting to going bareback as a solution.wrx2005, you could be right i never gave it a lot of thought as to why they seem so willing to give it up bareback so easily or initiate it. your reasoning makes a lot of sense.
Manizales911
02-03-14, 16:08
So your experience has been that many of the Dominican girls have encouraged you to go bareback. Would you mind elaborating on that one as I didn't have a single girl encourage me to go bareback during my two weeks back in December.I would venture to say that it is because all of your girls were first time encounters. I only have a couple of first timers per trip, the rest are all repeats.
SavePros321
02-03-14, 17:09
In any case a bareback fuck is usually worth three in the condom.Was this a play on "a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush"? (lol)
Mr Enternational
02-03-14, 18:42
Many of the p4p chicas (and non pros) doing bareback may have took care of avoiding pregnancy by taking a shot, tube tying or some other means.Birth control? I see you don't know DR very well. The birth control there is known as pulling out. I have met chicks for the first time and they have agreed to have a baby for me.
Thank you for your take on things but I am confused why you think the p4p chicas are not concerned about getting an STD, this doesn't make sense to me.Welcome to DR.
Tempoecorto
02-03-14, 19:41
Birth control? I see you don't know DR very well. The birth control there is known as pulling out. I have met chicks for the first time and they have agreed to have a baby for me.I discovered that a termination of unwanted pregnancy is a criminal offense there, thanks much to the Catholic ethos which also strongly militates against kevlar (not to speak of poverty. Making buying kevlar an issue). No wonder in addition to what you said, the teen pregnancy is high. On the flip side, one gets to have sex, the way God or Nature, depending on your belief system, intended.
Manizales911
02-03-14, 20:21
Birth control? I see you don't know DR very well. The birth control there is known as pulling out. I have met chicks for the first time and they have agreed to have a baby for me.
Welcome to DR.Not in respects to pro's, almost all pro's take birth control.
SavePros321
02-03-14, 20:48
Sunday 2/2 I was experiencing the effects of all of the men in town. I only had one chica I know who kept calling or texting me. Every other chica I usually hear from was ghost. One in particular, my cable guys sister, she really surprised me. We had a date on Saturday and she even cancelled. Said lets try tomorrow. Truth was, with the amount of dudes in town as there were, her and enough chicas had their fill of action from dudes that were right there in front of them.This confirms the suspicion I've always had and is the reason I do not travel to other countries during holidays and major events in the US."Hey bro, it's Super Bowl / Memorial Day / 4th of July / Labor Day / Thanksgiving. Let's go to the DR!"
I realize that most of us do this to maximize our vacation days, but just realize that in doing so (traveling during these time frames) there is a 99.9% chance that your favorite chica will not be available when requested. OR you may just end up having to wait in a long queue (of guys; some of whom have been waiting 6 months to a year or more toget back inside the same chica) until she clears some space for you in her schedule.
Better yet: for anyone who would like to find out if your chica is "not like all the other chicas", show up during a US holiday weekend unannounced. If she can't meet with you...
I was in Colombia just a few weeks ago. I purposely waited for Christmas and all the New Year's rah rah to be well over and done with well before I showed up. Save for a few flakes, I had no trouble in scheduling and banging every chica I had planned on banging. Most of them were not tied up with 20+ horny gringos blowing up their phones every 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1527359]Sunday 2/2 I was experiencing the effects of all of the men in town. I only had one chica I know who kept calling or texting me. Every other chica I usually hear from was ghost. One in particular, my cable guys sister, she really surprised me. We had a date on Saturday and she even cancelled. Said lets try tomorrow. Truth was, with the amount of dudes in town as there were, her and enough chicas had their fill of action from dudes that were right there in front of them.
[QUOTE]I'll been waiting to hear this vibe. Sounds like Super Bowl was a bust. Not the 4 to 1 theory.
Unless of course that chica is trying to trap a dude by getting pregnant.What do you mean by trap, child support?
I'm curious how to deal with such entrapment or an attempt of entrapment if this ever happens.
Many of the p4p chicas (and non pros) doing bareback may have took care of avoiding pregnancy by taking a shot, tube tying or some other means. That may be their main concern, but throw caution to the wind when it comes to HIV and STD's. IMO thats the reason enough chicas are allowing bareback. They are not overly concerned about HIV or STD, but do care about avoiding getting pregnant.
Thank you for your take on things but I am confused why you think the p4p chicas are not concerned about getting an STD, this doesn't make sense to me.I didn't say "the p4p chicas". Thats too much of a generalization. I said, MANY of the p4p chicas. Which means there are enough who arent concerned about STD / HIV. Or I should say, they arent taking any measures to avoid it, just like the guy going bareback is taking a chance as well. I have experienced equal amounts of chicas insisting on condoms as well as those not caring if we went bareback. Maybe slightly more insisting on a condom. I have had some insist on a condom at 1st, but they werent firm about it. They just wanted to appear like they cared about a man wearing a condom. Probably didn't want to appear like she was a reckless ****. But then that can be said for enough men who act like a condom is a must. But will easily go bareback if offered a chance to.
Was this a play on "a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush"? (lol)Absolutely!
What do you mean by trap, child support?
I'm curious how to deal with such entrapment or an attempt of entrapment if this ever happens.Well yes. An unwanted child, with the potential of having to pay child support. My understanding now is, the state of NJ is cooperating with the DR in going after NJ resident men who father children in the DR to support their children. I can only imagine other states may follow suit. The key is the chica would need to get as much info as she can to bring to the proper authorities. Your full name, telephone number, address and perhaps more.
I feel more vulnerable now that I have an apartment. But even for a dude staying at a hotel, his personal info the hotel has might be given to the authorities upon request.
Police taking DNA sample against your will based on chica's statement?
There must be some sort of procedure for such cases.
Anyone had an experience like this in DR?
Well yes. An unwanted child, with the potential of having to pay child support. My understanding now is, the state of NJ is cooperating with the DR in going after NJ resident men who father children in the DR to support their children. I can only imagine other states may follow suit. The key is the chica would need to get as much info as she can to bring to the proper authorities. Your full name, telephone number, address and perhaps more.
I feel more vulnerable now that I have an apartment. But even for a dude staying at a hotel, his personal info the hotel has might be given to the authorities upon request.
Police taking DNA sample against your will based on chica's statement?
There must be some sort of procedure for such cases.
Anyone had an experience like this in DR?A DNA test could only be a good thing. If the child is not yours, then it clears you of all legal responsibility, but if the child is yours, then why would you not want try to give your Dominican son or daughter the best life possible?
Manizales911
02-04-14, 14:36
A DNA test could only be a good thing. If the child is not yours, then it clears you of all legal responsibility, but if the child is yours, then why would you not want try to give your Dominican son or daughter the best life possible?I agree. Just take a DNA kit from the USA down to the DR after the baby is born, swab the baby's cheek and bring the kit back to the USA and in a few days you will know if you are the father or not, that's what I did to determine if my Colombian daughter was truly mine. I can't imagine not knowing for certain and I certainly would never abandon my responsibility as a father of any child I put on this earth.
I agree. I can't imagine not knowing for certain and I certainly would never abandon my responsibility as a father of any child I put on this earth.
.but if the child is yours, then why would you not want try to give your Dominican son or daughter the best life possible?Are you both "infuckinsane"?
Why on earth would you do that? The deal was, you pay her for sex and then she goes away unless you call her for more. No strings.
The insanity of letting some random hooker from Sosewer decide the next 18 years of your financial life (unless you are rich enough to afford it but then you wouldn't be banging hoes in the DR) is beyond belief!
So then, go back and find every ho you barebacked and see if she's now a mother. You might get lucky!
Manizales911
02-04-14, 19:04
Are you both "infuckinsane"?
Why on earth would you do that? The deal was, you pay her for sex and then she goes away unless you call her for more. No strings.
The insanity of letting some random hooker from Sosewer decide the next 18 years of your financial life (unless you are rich enough to afford it but then you wouldn't be banging hoes in the DR) is beyond belief!
So then, go back and find every ho you barebacked and see if she's now a mother. You might get lucky!Well that's your take on it, not mine. I make sure that my daughter is well clothed, fed, and schooled, it costs peanuts in my financial life. I talk to her on an almost daily basis also, she is probably one of the only kids in her class that know who their father is. To each their own.
Are you both "infuckinsane"?
Why on earth would you do that? The deal was, you pay her for sex and then she goes away unless you call her for more. No strings.
The insanity of letting some random hooker from Sosewer decide the next 18 years of your financial life (unless you are rich enough to afford it but then you wouldn't be banging hoes in the DR) is beyond belief!
So then, go back and find every ho you barebacked and see if she's now a mother. You might get lucky!This has been an interesting if not comical series of posts, almost unbelievable!
To each their own.Indeed. Sounds like you found what you were looking for.
Best of luck.
Manizales911 you are a stand up man
Are you both "infuckinsane"?
Why on earth would you do that? The deal was, you pay her for sex and then she goes away unless you call her for more. No strings.
The insanity of letting some random hooker from Sosewer decide the next 18 years of your financial life (unless you are rich enough to afford it but then you wouldn't be banging hoes in the DR) is beyond belief!
So then, go back and find every ho you barebacked and see if she's now a mother. You might get lucky!That would be a worst case scenario, but one that would point to the lack of wisdom in having bareback sex with random hookers. If you are going to have bareback sex with CIV, you probably need a sufficiently data-based assessment of the character of the chica who tells you she is on the pill. And you might ask her what brand of pill she is taking, what time she takes it, and ask to see her pills, before you plunge ahead. Of course there are risks on both sides and it takes two to tango, so the chica who becomes pregnant by a random monger is not showing much intelligence either.
Police taking DNA sample against your will based on chica's statement?
There must be some sort of procedure for such cases.
Anyone had an experience like this in DR?I do not have specifics, but I would venture to guess that the DR will contact an agency in the states to have a DNA test ordered on the named individual. Maybe the results are sent to the DR? Or maybe if you return to the DR your name is flagged at the airport and you are detained. I have no clue how they would go about getting a guy tested based on a complaint.
Tempoecorto
02-05-14, 02:01
Manizales911 you are a stand up manI agree. It takes balls to speak of it, in forums like this as well.
Manizales911
02-05-14, 04:07
This has been an interesting if not comical series of posts, almost unbelievable!I don't find it comical at all.
I don't find it comical at all.I concur with RJSS212 on this topic. Hookers are not for having children with and the thought of it is what I find comical. However your caring for your daughter as mentioned in one of your earlier posts is admirable.
Either from a condom or her mouth (CIM) or any other way. Even if you did not go for bareback.
Do you think you should be responsible for child support in such case?
A DNA test could only be a good thing. If the child is not yours, then it clears you of all legal responsibility, but if the child is yours, then why would you not want try to give your Dominican son or daughter the best life possible?
decided to take a ride to santiago, asked 3 of my buddies on vacay in sosua to take the ride with me. my mission was to go to see a lady i met back in july. 2013. she co-owns a salon near the downtown area about a 1/2 mile away from the monument. i had phased out contact with her but always was quite fond of her. this means, i like the lady but didn't think i was going to maintain a relationship with her. especially since that might interfere with my enjoyment in the north coast. my other mission was to simply do something different, and give my buddies something else to do.
quick on the ground weather & sosua conditions report before i continue. it has been raining almost every day since i arrived to pop jan 25. this is the 1st time i have seen this much consistent rain in a while. me and my friends love the playa, but this rain has put a serious damper on our ability to go to the playa daily. the rain may start early in the morning, and clear up within an hour. later mid afternoon another shower, and clear up again. maybe late afternoon a full blown down pour or another shower. damn how much rain are we going to get?
a lot of dudes left monday to return home. some cats had flights, but had them cancelled due to inclement weather at their connection airport or final destinations. a lot more left the area on tuesday, and even more had flights cancelled too. but the most significant detail is that many chicas were still around and much less mongers in town. last night tuesday, i saw some chicas i didn't see in the last few days. could have been hemmed up with clients or perhaps they are johnny come latelys? a couple of my regulars mysteriously were available and calling.
anyway, we arrive to santiago but not without suffering through mucho traffic, and yes rain. we went to kukura macara restaurant across from the monument. right away the parking attendent and several staff members recognized and greeted me when we went in. almost felt like a celebrity. we sit down to eat (4pm) and a few customers come in. were all on the 2nd tier of the restaurant where you have a clear view of the street, and the monument. along the street are stages set up because every sunday they have carnival.
looks like sundays by the monument is the place to be if you are visiting santiago. 3 people come in and end up sitting behind me. it was a couple and their sexy 3rd wheel. at some point she had to go to the ladies room, but when she came back we made eye contact and exchanged smiles. after that, i kept thinking about turning around and introducing myself, but decided maybe it might not be a good idea. maybe her date / boyfriend was on his way? well when it was time to leave, i decided i wasnt going to let this fish getaway. in the states, i missed many potential opps because i talked myself out of approaching a woman. especially some of those mean mugging women.
when i got down stairs, i asked the parking guy for paper and a pen. i write my contact info, and i hand it to him, and ask him to give it to the lady. apparently she was eyeballing us the whole time. i looked up and smiled at her and raised my hand to give her the "call me" sign. she smiled and nodded as if to say yes. about a 1/2 hour later she whatsapped me. turns out she is from la vega and the other couple, the lady was her aunt who lives in santiago. we have been whatsapping since. her and i to be continued.
went to see the salon lady in santiago. i surprised her walking through the door. i don't know if that was a bad move or not because after meeting that chica from la vega my gut was thinking whats the point of re-starting something with the salon lady? we left and headed back to sosua.
there is a chica i met last december, said she was going to be in sosua today, but found out she didn't come yet. so i called one of my regulars that lives in montellano, and had her come over after she got off work. next day, tuesday around 1pm, i'm sitting in my car in front of maui mau restaurant when i spot this cute, petite chica (she's 27) with a nice round ass, walking toward the road down to the playa. once eye contact was made, she quickly steers towards me. i take her number, a quick photo and made a potential date with her for later.
me and my buddies spot her again while were chillin on the beach. i look at that round ass again in those pink shorts and think to myself, maybe i should snag this chica now before i lose my turn? when we lock eyes, i go up to her to give her a specific time of 4 for us to meet up. of course she's down. 4 comes and i scooped the chica up about a block from rumba. stopped for some food, and off to my spot. i'm usually not into afternoon sessions, but this girls ass made me change my mind in an instant. a very passionate filled session. in mish girl knew how to position her legs close so she could eventually get off. i just love seeing these girls come. seems like some of them should be paying us, instead of the other way around?
aside from the sex, she was very good company for the time we were together. i eventually dropped her off. i told her i wanted to see her in a dress and heels. she agreed. so later at rumbas we met again, and she came in a sexy form fitting white dress with black heels. i wasnt going to take her again so soon, but thought why not? plus apparently she was expecting me to. ironically, she spent the night, but i haven't touched her yet. i was too sleepy. but she is in bed now sleeping. maybe i'll tackle it before i drop her off again? i haven't tried hitting it doggie yet, but i must say, thats what her ass looks like it's made for. i don't know if having monger experience is paying off, or perhaps i just picked the right chica?
because i never negotiated with the chica. we never talked how long for her time. after we were done and leaving my spot, she picked up her purse. i reached for it, and stuffed the money in her purse. she closed it, and that was the end of that. no need to worry, because she got more than what the going rate is for st. i gave her a propina for our overall companionship together. in the morning, i will give her a little more.
also, i gave the speech. i told her i know she is here to make money for her family (according to her she has 3 kids) , so i don't want us to be playing games. if she is with somebody it's no problem for me, and when i am with somebody i don't want her trippin'. i wanted to nip shit in the bud. because many of these chicas even the non hardcore chicas try to run game as if you are going to be their main client. and acting like they are jealous if they see you patronizing other chicas. also wanted to make sure she understood i wasnt some stupid dude that was catching feelings. well that part she'll find out eventually.
that chica from december is coming today. i don't know how many other guys are waiting for her juicy ass, but i hope i get an early crack at it. thats another chica i had no problem having an afternoon session with. good times. no lie, now that the sb frenzy has lifted, i see a lot more chicas around, and much less mongers now. met another potential last night. some may remember her. her name is china, pronounced "cheena". long black hair, round ass, cat like eyes. maybe a little too much makeup, but still sexy. very receptive, could have took her right then and there, but didn't have time. took her number for later. many chicas around. many with that please take me look. thats my observation on the street and during my brief visit to rumba's. now this is the sosua i like and the way it is supposed to be. i still have other options from girls i usually connect with. got to eventually squeeze them in this month. one thing is apparent. you really don't need a plan for a vacation, especially if you know how to make contacts with chicas and follow up later when you are ready.
Either from a condom or her mouth (CIM) or any other way. Even if you did not go for bareback.
Do you think you should be responsible for child support in such case?I think the law would say yes. I have never heard of a case where a court had absolved a father of paternity for those reasons, but perhaps it has happened. In any case the child would still be the grandchild of your parents, niece or nephew of your siblings, cousin of their children, partial heir to your estate, and so on. Wasn't there a case some years back when billionaire Steve Bing denied that he was the father of Elizabeth Hurley's child even though he was her lover at the time she became pregnant? How many men was she having unprotected sex with?
As regards the morality of impregnating self with contents of condom or mouth after paid sex, I would agree that such behavior would be morally despicable.
I suppose chicas have less resources than Elizabeth Hurley.
Even if it was unpaid sex such actions are despicable.
I think the law would say yes. I have never heard of a case where a court had absolved a father of paternity for those reasons, but perhaps it has happened. In any case the child would still be the grandchild of your parents, niece or nephew of your siblings, cousin of their children, partial heir to your estate, and so on. Wasn't there a case some years back when billionaire Steve Bing denied that he was the father of Elizabeth Hurley's child even though he was her lover at the time she became pregnant? How many men was she having unprotected sex with?
As regards the morality of impregnating self with contents of condom or mouth after paid sex, I would agree that such behavior would be morally despicable.
I suppose chicas have less resources than Elizabeth Hurley.
Even if it was unpaid sex such actions are despicable.Yes, indeed. The story here may give those who are curious some idea of how the legal mechanics might work in an international case of disputed paternity. Bing flew to London to give a DNA sample so as to avoid being subpoenaed to do the same thing in California. (Link is to story about this, so don't click it if you are looking for a Sosua trip report.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-124116/Bing-father-Lizs-baby.html
This confirms the suspicion I've always had and is the reason I do not travel to other countries during holidays and major events in the US."Hey bro, it's Super Bowl / Memorial Day / 4th of July / Labor Day / Thanksgiving. Let's go to the DR!"
I realize that most of us do this to maximize our vacation days, but just realize that in doing so (traveling during these time frames) there is a 99. 9% chance that your favorite chica will not be available when requested. OR you may just end up having to wait in a long queue (of guys; some of whom have been waiting 6 months to a year or more toget back inside the same chica) until she clears some space for you in her schedule.I think I have mixed feelings about whether or not it's a good idea to come during the holidays or major events. When it comes to the holidays, I think the key is to come before most chicas go back home after they made their holiday cash. Now when it comes to SB time, I do not think guys should dismiss this as a time to come. Here's why? Lots and lots of extra chicas show up during this time. You might not have your favorite chica available, but you just might meet some brand new (brand new to us) talent.
I do believe thats what I observed from the time I arrived up until game day. One important detail should be considered. I do not go out late at night regularly. Only on occasion. And I am not a frequent visitor of Rumba or D'Latins. So someone should not decide on whether or not to come based on my time on the strip. Thats like adjusting ones vacation based on what CubaDave has to say. I think guys need to come and judge for themselves. I go to Rumba or D'Latins when the spirit hits me, especially with friends. I like to hang out and fish from Rockys, the playa, the supermercado or where ever I spot a chica, day or night. While sitting at Rockys I observed dozens and dozens of guys coming from the strip walking with their dates for the evening. So the numbers of chicas available was more than enough for the mongers on hand. I observed groups of chicas walking around on the playa. Saw some cuties I could have talked to at the Supermercado. They were there on hand.
But I do believe mongers who had favoritas would be in a queue as you stated because they might have more clients available. Even if they know you are around, they might figure they'll get to you eventually. But like I stated earlier, IMO I think SB week was the perfect time to meet some new talent. Now had I gone around the corner more to D'Latins / Rumba I'm sure I could have found a bunch of interesting women I liked. Just so happens, I had 2 regulars I spent time with the 1st couple of days, plus I took a break for a couple of days. My goal was to pace myself since I have plenty of days in the DR ahead. Now thats my honest brotherly perspective. Selfishly speaking, every dude who decides to stay away when the holidays approach or during special events is welcome to do so. That will help provide a variety of chicas for me and help preserve Sosuas buyers market! LOL.
Manizales911
02-05-14, 15:28
Either from a condom or her mouth (CIM) or any other way. Even if you did not go for bareback.
Do you think you should be responsible for child support in such case?Legally responsible, maybe not. Morally, absolutely, why would you punish the child for how he / she was conceived.
Yes, indeed. The story here may give those who are curious some idea of how the legal mechanics might work in an international case of disputed paternity. Bing flew to London to give a DNA sample so as to avoid being subpoenaed to do the same thing in California. (Link is to story about this, so don't click it if you are looking for a Sosua trip report.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-124116/Bing-father-Lizs-baby.htmlNot applicable to the DR. These are Dom Perignon champagne mongers vs. Presidente mongers. Bigger stakes and much more resources.
A DNA test could only be a good thing. If the child is not yours, then it clears you of all legal responsibility, but if the child is yours, then why would you not want try to give your Dominican son or daughter the best life possible?No need to pass moral judgement. This is a board about sex not parenting.
Either from a condom or her mouth (CIM) or any other way. Even if you did not go for bareback.
Do you think you should be responsible for child support in such case?Lots of times the girl does not know your contact info. Generally it is not a good idea to give contact info to working girls. For non working girls it is a different matter.
Non working girls become your GF per se and will allow you bareback sex. Some of the working girls allow BB.
For those guys who continue to be in touch with working girls I say not do it. Sex is had, money is exchanged and to each own way out.
By keeping in touch with opens you to lot of hassles and scams. Working girls and some of the non working girls are adept in exploiting the situation the moment you show weakness.
It has happened to lots of mongers including me. Luckily for me once I disputed paternity with a GF of mine from Phi she backed out saying she had a BF from school.
I know of some cases where the guy went to extraordinary lengths to find out he is the father and started supporting both the mother and child. However once he started it the demand kept skyrocketing for this and that.
In spite of his best intentions he had no choice but to ignore. Yes, morally it is wrong but cannot support mother and child for them to live like queens in a third world country.
Last night I pulled a Chica from the Strip and after our session which was not bareback, I asked her what the lowdown was on bare-backing and the girls in Latinas / Rumbas / Central Bar, etc. She said that a lot of the girls do it for between 4,000 and 5,000 Pesos. She also said some of the girls have boy-friends or whatever that force them to bring home additional money or the men become become physically violent with them.
Can anyone confirm what I heard from this one Chica?
Abortions are illegal, however, there is a pill for stomach issues called Citek. The girl can insert a few pills into her vagina and they will abort shortly afterwards. It is not painless and will be less painful the sooner it is done. Some pharmacies will not sell to a woman, because they know what it's for.
A part time girlfriend did this after I knocked her up, without prompting from me.
LickedWhat
02-06-14, 00:40
Hi all,
New poster here, and new to the DR. I'd like to begin by thanking everyone who has contributed useful information here and in related threads.
I just arrived in Sosua, and started off with an afternoon session with a chica I spotted in a bar near Rumba. I probably should have kept looking a bit longer, but I was too much in need of release and she was pretty enough. She also spoke some English, which was good since I unfortunately don't know Spanish beyond a few words. She quoted me 3K. I got her down to half that (could have haggled harder but wasn't in the mood for it) and we went off to my hotel. The session was okay, not great but ended on a positive note with some very nice doggy style. Her soft body (a little bit on the chubby side, which is perfectly fine to me) was made for that. I have no intention to repeat with her, but it was not too bad a start.
While I do have a bit of experience from mongering in Europe and Thailand, I could absolutely use a bit of help to get the most out of my trip here. If anyone feels like grabbing a couple of beers and sharing knowledge, it would be much appreciated. Just PM me after my subscription goes through. I'm staying at the Casa Cayena for two weeks.
Things never work out how you expect.
I went out a couple of nights ago with my favorite, and she was looking sensational, I must say. So we got another very pretty girl who goes to the same gym at the casino as hired help for a threesome and went to a cabana and took photos and I fucked my favorita with the #2 girl in a somewhat assistive role, observing us and lending a helpful hand at the right moment.
As we went to the car the second girl told my fave that she really liked her and would like to eat her pussy, which my girl didn't want to go for as she is not a lesbo and does not like the idea of sex with a woman, which is her right. Since then girl #2 seems to be infatuated and has been bombarding her (#1) with phone calls and text messages saying she loves her and wants to meet again.
Only in Sosua!
Last night I pulled a Chica from the Strip and after our session which was not bareback, I asked her what the lowdown was on bare-backing and the girls in Latinas / Rumbas / Central Bar, etc. She said that a lot of the girls do it for between 4, 000 and 5, 000 Pesos. She also said some of the girls have boy-friends or whatever that force them to bring home additional money or the men become become physically violent with them.
Can anyone confirm what I heard from this one Chica?I'm still here in Sosua and will get back to my trip reports later. Most of the girls start out asking for 2000 or 2500. Usual closing deal amount (for me) is 1500 or 2000. Just through conversation I've had several offer BBFS for another 500. I'm not sure if it's a YMMV type thing after she's sized you up.
I don't know anything about the physically abusive part.
Well that's your take on it, not mine. I talk to her on an almost daily basis also, she is probably one of the only kids in her class that know who their father is. To each their own.As a single parent myself I respect any man to handle the responsibility, however I hope you've been in her class and saying that's factually. If not I think that's some real prejudice shit to say
SavePros321
02-06-14, 03:52
I know of some cases where the guy went to extraordinary lengths to find out he is the father and started supporting both the mother and child. However once he started it the demand kept skyrocketing for this and that.
In spite of his best intentions he had no choice but to ignore. Yes, morally it is wrong but cannot support mother and child for them to live like queens in a third world country.I could see how this could happen. It could be as simple as a chica saying "Do you want your child to starve?" Or if it is a girl: "Do you want your daughter to grow up to be a prostitute?"
You could be sending this chia un chingo de dinero, and she can simply reply "it is still not enough".
SavePros321
02-06-14, 04:09
I think I have mixed feelings about whether or not it's a good idea to come during the holidays or major events. When it comes to the holidays, I think the key is to come before most chicas go back home after they made their holiday cash. Now when it comes to SB time, I do not think guys should dismiss this as a time to come. Here's why? Lots and lots of extra chicas show up during this time. You might not have your favorite chica available, but you just might meet some brand new (brand new to us) talent.I absolutely agree with you bro. I guess I should have expounded on this a bit more in relation to the DR. I was meaning to say that this is probably a problem island wide: not just in Sosua. Lots of guys travel during the holidays and I was pointing out that even if you landed someplace like SD or Santiago, if two or three of you are trying to get at the same chica (who lives in SD or Santiago) at the same time (one of you could be trying to get her take a bus to visit you in Sosua, the other two could both be staying in SD completely unaware of the other) , she is going to have to decide on who she "needs" (notice I said "needs" and not "wants") to see the most.
The guy in Sosua could have been sending her money twice a month via Western Union for the past three months. If she wants that gravy train to continue, she is not going to blow this one off. The other two guys in SD wanting to see her will probably be sitting in their hotel rooms holding their dick if they didn't plan for backups.
In this situation, the "Lots and lots of extra (freelance) chicas show up during this time" does not apply to a place like SD or Santiago.
We Medellin mongers deal with this type of situation all the time. The only time where the "Lots and lots of extra (freelance) chicas show up during this time" would be true is some place like the Mansion. Other than that, there is no central spot like Sosua in Medallo.
I'm positive some of the times I got a last minute "new proposed date/time" from a chica was due to a favorite rolling into town and demanding her company. And am sure some of my regulars have cancelled dates on other mongers once I roll into town. Yin and Yang.
The above scenario gets magnified x1000 during gringo holidays (what we have dubbed as "gringo influx").
Zonamonger
02-06-14, 04:16
Hey gents,
My buddy and I have plane reservations for Sosua on March 1. As much as we like the Chica prices, we are a bit concerned about safety in Sosua after reading multiple reports of blackmail, extortion and murder of foreigners. We had booked the Casa Valeria but cancelled that to find more info. We have lots of experience with the scams, petty police corruption, and street ratero scams in Tijuana but are noobs in Sosua. If things go bad in Tijuana we can get to the border quickly. Sosua is not such a quick exit.
Can anyone offer any recent intel on general tourist safety in Sosua?
Thank you
Things never work out how you expect.
I went out a couple of nights ago with my favorite, and she was looking sensational, I must say. So we got another very pretty girl who goes to the same gym at the casino as hired help for a threesome and went to a cabana and took photos and I fucked my favorita with the #2 girl in a somewhat assistive role, observing us and lending a helpful hand at the right moment.
As we went to the car the second girl told my fave that she really liked her and would like to eat her pussy, which my girl didn't want to go for as she is not a lesbo and does not like the idea of sex with a woman, which is her right. Since then girl #2 seems to be infatuated and has been bombarding her (#1) with phone calls and text messages saying she loves her and wants to meet again.
Only in Sosua!I read this post three times word for word to fully understand, and I still don't get it. You took a guest for a threesome to the cabana and she watched you fuck your girl? The second girl later wanted to eat your girl but your girl isn't a lesbian? I'm scared to ask where the second girl put her whole hand.
Let me interject here Sir if you don't mind. It seems to me that your girl maybe is a total freak but doesn't want to risk losing you just in case this was a test. I don't understand why your girl went to the cabana in the first place other than you and the second girl wanted to. She wanted to do everything but maybe you didn't give her a comfort zone to relax and let her feelings go. Next time tell her to lay back naked on the bed with her eyes closed. You and the second girl remove her shoes and start kissing up her leg. Make sure she has four hands on her caressing her lower body. As you both get closer to her womb and you hear her moan and move her pussy up and down, slowly back yourself out, with a wink at the second girl. Take this time to put on a condom as the second girl eats her pussy while you bang her from behind.
Being that the second girl made a move on your girl while you were there tells me that maybe she lost respect for you because of something that happened in the room that made you less manly. Never, I repeat never, underestimate the power of a lesbian. She saw something in your girl that maybe you missed. Its just my opinion and I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that the second girl was eating that pussy as soon as you were away.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1528190]I think I have mixed feelings about whether or not it's a good idea to come during the holidays or major events. When it comes to the holidays, I think the key is to come before most chicas go back home after they made their holiday cash. Now when it comes to SB time, I do not think guys should dismiss this as a time to come. Here's why? Lots and lots of extra chicas show up during this time. You might not have your favorite chica available, but you just might meet some brand new (brand new to us) talent.
QUOTE]
I think I am going to leave major Holidays in the states and SB alone as travel time for the DR. I didn't have my normal experience (though I wasn't planning on going to Sosua) until I little after the holiday and it sounds like the same for you during SB. I know one can never have the same experience in the same place at a different time, but hearing your "on the ground observation" and taking in my own account. I passed. I have to look at things from a little more experience monger. A lot of see
The Mind Bender
02-06-14, 14:26
Super Bowl weekend, the biggest monger holiday of the year just passed and nobody posted up any pics or video? For shame!
Personally I avoid high season, too many over spending guys flooding the town. Sure there are more girls but even in low season you're outnumbered so it doesn't really matter.
i know of some cases where the guy went to extraordinary lengths to find out he is the father and started supporting both the mother and child. however once he started it the demand kept skyrocketing for this and that.
in spite of his best intentions he had no choice but to ignore. yes, morally it is wrong but cannot support mother and child for them to live like queens in a third world country.well, he just has to make a decision on what percentage of his income to give and stick to it. that is what would happen if the exact amount were court ordered. men in the us may have problems, however, claiming the tax deduction for that child if the child is outside the us unless he arranges for the child to be registered as a us birth, for which purpose he would need to be married to the mother before the birth.
people's definition of living like queens will vary. most people would probably think that access to adequate nutrition, disposable [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), medical care, clothing, and education would be the minimum desirable standards for a child. now whether the child has access to toys, books, cable tv, wi-fi, a swimming pool, swimming lessons, ballet classes, or indeed round the clock and round the calendar air conditioning is entirely discretionary.
Super Bowl weekend, the biggest monger holiday of the year just passed and nobody posted up any pics or video? For shame!
Personally I avoid high season, too many over spending guys flooding the town. Sure there are more girls but even in low season you're outnumbered so it doesn't really matter.No, but I can tell you that even with the changes involving the closure of the two brothels and many massage places, the town is very busy and it is almost impossible to find a parking place in the center in the morning. The restaurants are busy, the clubs and bars are busy at night, and the streets are full of people including many girls in revealing clothing who will have sex with you for a fee. Bottom line: If you are a single man and want to come down to Sosua right now for a sex vacation, you will find plenty of good food, good sex, and a convivial atmosphere.
Houston Player
02-06-14, 20:05
well, he just has to make a decision on what percentage of his income to give and stick to it. that is what would happen if the exact amount were court ordered. men in the us may have problems, however, claiming the tax deduction for that child if the child is outside the us unless he arranges for the child to be registered as a us birth, for which purpose he would need to be married to the mother before the birth.
people's definition of living like queens will vary. most people would probably think that access to adequate nutrition, disposable [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), medical care, clothing, and education would be the minimum desirable standards for a child. now whether the child has access to toys, books, cable tv, wi-fi, a swimming pool, swimming lessons, ballet classes, or indeed round the clock and round the calendar air conditioning is entirely discretionary.you do not have to be married to the mother of the child in order to register a child born in a foreign country as a us citizen, only that one of the parents is a us citizen. once you do this however you are automatically assuming responsibility for the child.
Hey gents,
My buddy and I have plane reservations for Sosua on March 1. As much as we like the Chica prices, we are a bit concerned about safety in Sosua after reading multiple reports of blackmail, extortion and murder of foreigners. We had booked the Casa Valeria but cancelled that to find more info. We have lots of experience with the scams, petty police corruption, and street ratero scams in Tijuana but are noobs in Sosua. If things go bad in Tijuana we can get to the border quickly. Sosua is not such a quick exit.
Can anyone offer any recent intel on general tourist safety in Sosua?
Thank youI will be there during this time if I can help you in anyway just holla.
I read this post three times word for word to fully understand, and I still don't get it. You took a guest for a threesome to the cabana and she watched you fuck your girl? The second girl later wanted to eat your girl but your girl isn't a lesbian? I'm scared to ask where the second girl put her whole hand.
Let me interject here Sir if you don't mind. It seems to me that your girl maybe is a total freak but doesn't want to risk losing you just in case this was a test. I don't understand why your girl went to the cabana in the first place other than you and the second girl wanted to. She wanted to do everything but maybe you didn't give her a comfort zone to relax and let her feelings go. Next time tell her to lay back naked on the bed with her eyes closed. You and the second girl remove her shoes and start kissing up her leg. Make sure she has four hands on her caressing her lower body. As you both get closer to her womb and you hear her moan and move her pussy up and down, slowly back yourself out, with a wink at the second girl. Take this time to put on a condom as the second girl eats her pussy while you bang her from behind.
Being that the second girl made a move on your girl while you were there tells me that maybe she lost respect for you because of something that happened in the room that made you less manly. Never, I repeat never, underestimate the power of a lesbian. She saw something in your girl that maybe you missed. Its just my opinion and I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that the second girl was eating that pussy as soon as you were away.You should have charged him for giving that much info. (How to break in a lesbian 101 chapter 3 "the first encounter") LOL The whole scenario sounds shady.
Manizales911
02-06-14, 20:51
You do not have to be married to the mother of the child in order to register a child born in a foreign country as a US citizen, only that one of the parents is a US citizen. Once you do this however you are automatically assuming responsibility for the child.You are 100% correct. My daughter is a U.S. and Colombian citizen and has two passports, I am not married to her mother. The mother does have to sign off on it, you can't do it without the mother's permission.
Hey gents,
My buddy and I have plane reservations for Sosua on March 1. As much as we like the Chica prices, we are a bit concerned about safety in Sosua after reading multiple reports of blackmail, extortion and murder of foreigners. We had booked the Casa Valeria but cancelled that to find more info. We have lots of experience with the scams, petty police corrupn, and street ratero scams in Tijuana but are noobs in Sosua. If things go bad in Tijuana we can get to the border quickly. Sosua is not such a quick exit.
Can anyone offer any recent intel on general tourist safety in Sosua?
Thank youI don't have any recent tourist information on tourist safety but have some observations for you to consider. First off book your flights and hotel. I was here back in December for two weeks and am currently here now. When I am not here I'm in Tijuana every weekend. I feel 10 times safer here than in Tijuana. You don't have cops patrolling the streets in cars, trucks, and on foot shaking you down, etc. You don't have people openly selling drugs on the street. It's legal to drink on the streets. Most of the hotels require that when you bring a chica to the room they leave their ID at reception. If your a Tijuana veteran you will not have a problem here!
I read this post three times word for word to fully understand, and I still don't get it. You took a guest for a threesome to the cabana and she watched you fuck your girl? The second girl later wanted to eat your girl but your girl isn't a lesbian? I'm scared to ask where the second girl put her whole hand.
Let me interject here Sir if you don't mind. It seems to me that your girl maybe is a total freak but doesn't want to risk losing you just in case this was a test. I don't understand why your girl went to the cabana in the first place other than you and the second girl wanted to. She wanted to do everything but maybe you didn't give her a comfort zone to relax and let her feelings go. Next time tell her to lay back naked on the bed with her eyes closed. You and the second girl remove her shoes and start kissing up her leg. Make sure she has four hands on her caressing her lower body. As you both get closer to her womb and you hear her moan and move her pussy up and down, slowly back yourself out, with a wink at the second girl. Take this time to put on a condom as the second girl eats her pussy while you bang her from behind.
Being that the second girl made a move on your girl while you were there tells me that maybe she lost respect for you because of something that happened in the room that made you less manly. Never, I repeat never, underestimate the power of a lesbian. She saw something in your girl that maybe you missed. Its just my opinion and I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that the second girl was eating that pussy as soon as you were away.You may have read my post three times, but I think you missed a lot of nuances.
My advice to newbies would always be to negotiate up front at the time that the reimbursement is decided exactly what services are to be provided. In this case that was done and exactly what was negotiated was carried out. You should bear in mind that in the DR a Happy Hour by no means automatically includes lesbian action of any kind unless specifically negotiated.
It was the events after the event was over that were of interest, in particular the cell phone calls and messages that were not bargained for.
While you may have had success with the strategy you described above (though I don't recall you posting about it here) I would warn that for most people attempting to go outside what was pre-negotiated can be an area that leads to later conflict. If anything, I admired girl #2 for her discretion in leaving it until later to try to hook up with girl #1 when off the clock, so to speak. In any case I was amused and would have had no objection.
Fran knows way more about this subject then most of us. We all have our ares of kink this is Fran. S. I hooked him up with chic who was bi and willing give a show. Happy hours ae nornally great for the girls. Same money half the work. What a deal. Most rookies are so anxious they fall for it hookline and sinker.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1528717]You may have read my post three times, but I think you missed a lot of nuances.
My advice to newbies would always be to negotiate up front at the time that the reimbursement is decided exactly what services are to be provided. In this case that was done and exactly what was negotiated was carried out. You should bear in mind that in the DR a Happy Hour by no means automatically includes lesbian action of any kind unless specifically negotiated.
Hello gentlemen,
This is going to be my third trip to Dominican rep both times I have gone SD route but thinking of going Sosua this time!
I'm thinking off flying into SD and spending 4 days there and heading sosua for a week. Would a week be enough?
Also I've only been to casas never had a novia because I can't speak Spanish, is it easy to pick up girls at the beach without Spanish?
Thanks for any help.
Fran knows way more about this subject then most of us. We all have our ares of kink this is Fran. S. I hooked him up with chic who was bi and willing give a show. Happy hours ae nornally great for the girls. Same money half the work. What a deal. Most rookies are so anxious they fall for it hookline and sinker.Yes, you did. In that particular case the deal was that she would bring a girl who had never had a lesbian experience and would induct her. That went very well and a good time was had by all concerned.
I think I am going to leave major Holidays in the states and SB alone as travel time for the DR. I didn't have my normal experience (though I wasn't planning on going to Sosua) until I little after the holiday and it sounds like the same for you during SB. I know one can never have the same experience in the same place at a different time, but hearing your "on the ground observation" and taking in my own account. I passed. I have to look at things from a little more experience monger. A lot of seeI went into Rumba last night, Thursday night and it was jammed packed with chicas. Many new faces in the bunch. It's almost as if many chicas had the same idea as those mongers who stayed away during the SBW. Many of these girls are bringing their friends and introducing them to Sosua.
BTW, the chica I met in December that sent me whatsapp messages asking me to bring a galaxy phone, she finally got back to Sosua. Her usual spot City Lights the rooms were all taken by other chicas. There are a ton of chicas in town. And the numbers appear to be in our favor. What didn't surprise me, is when I picked her up to take her to my spot, she had her brand new galaxy S3. Some other dude apparently bought her the phone. Had it for 4 days. Probably was spending time with him in SD, and thats why she wasnt in Sosua sooner. Things like this further reinforces the fact that many of these chicas are communicating with several dudes at one time, and asking all of them for the same shit. Imagine how many galaxy phones these chicas have the ability to collect from a bunch of dudes? Thats why I don't see the point of buying a chica a phone thinking the gift is supposed to enhance some GFE thing between us. I ignored her requests for the phone on whatsapp. And yet last night she put on a performance that was quite satisfying. Afterwards, I dropped her off to Rumbas so she could continue "working". She got out the car and got lost in the crowd.
That GFE is long gone for many of these chicas.
Seems like Sosua was flooded with chicas yesterday! Between 6 and 7 PM last night there were herds of them in front of Rumbas and this afternoon lots swarming around town and at the beach. Several Chicas I encountered yesterday and today during the day refused to accept 1,000 Pesos for short time and none of them were lookers. Two months ago I had no problem getting Chicas for 1,000 Pesos during the day. Is this because it's "high season" and the Chicas know this?
I.
Week is to long you will have the best time of your life. No Spanish need ed but it helps the women come to you. In droves you will feel like. Rock star. You will meet guys doing exactly what you're doing. Awesome atmosphere, in a week you'll sex your self out. Sperm onthe empty.
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Hello gentlemen,
This is going to be my third trip to Dominican rep both times I have gone SD route but thinking of going Sosua this time!
I'm thinking off flying into SD and spending 4 days there and heading sosua for a week. Would a week be enough?
Also I've only been to casas never had a novia because I can't speak Spanish, is it easy to pick up girls at the beach without Spanish?
Thanks for any help.
SavePros321
02-08-14, 02:07
Hello gentlemen,
This is going to be my third trip to Dominican rep both times I have gone SD route but thinking of going Sosua this time!
I'm thinking off flying into SD and spending 4 days there and heading sosua for a week. Would a week be enough?
Also I've only been to casas never had a novia because I can't speak Spanish, is it easy to pick up girls at the beach without Spanish?
Thanks for any help.I would do this in reverse: 4 days in Sosua, then SD for a week.
Trust me, you will be ready to leave Sosua after 4 days. Only because you will get tired of seeing the same crop of girls, beggars, change guys, etc., day in and day out.
Spend some time on Dominican Cupid. Find some chicas you would like to meet in SD. Go to Sosua and bang as many chicas as you can handle, then head to SD and spend some time with low mileage or "non pro" chicas. At this point it won't be such a big deal if you do not bang these SD chicas first time around because (if you do it right) you'll be begging for a much needed break from sex, LOL.
That GFE is long gone for many of these chicas.Agreed. This is my third winter vacation and I am disappointed in quality of chicas and the overall atmosphere of Sosua.
I don't think it was like this before. Girls are money hungry and without any concept that they should provide something of a value service in return. Spread the smelly pussy and take the money, that is it. I had to first have discussion with them to take the shower, then return them to have real wash of their pussy. Grab the money as soon as possible and go. If something can be snatched along the way even better, sun glasses, anything.
I don't think I will be coming back next year. Sosua is cheap but I don't think is worth it anymore. Also to mention, Passion is closed. That was the best source of good looking chicas in Sosua. It was great place but now it is gone.
I am in search of new winter destination with beaches, nice weather, that is reasonably safe and decent p4p quality. Do you guys have any recommendations, Panama, Colombia, Costarica, Brazil, Aruba?
Mr Enternational
02-08-14, 03:22
I don't think it was like this before. Girls are money hungry and without any concept that they should provide something of a value service in return. Spread the smelly pussy and take the money, that is it. I had to first have discussion with them to take the shower, then return them to have real wash of their pussy. Grab the money as soon as possible and go. If something can be snatched along the way even better, sun glasses, anything.You need to learn how to keep those broads in line. Don't let them run you. You have to know how to run them:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhTX2T8Y3B204xeA3N
SavePros321
02-08-14, 03:27
You need to learn how to keep those broads in line. Don't let them run you. You have to know how to run them:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhTX2T8Y3B204xeA3NPissing on a broad, keeping her at bay from ripping your balls off, and holding a camera and recording it. That's a lot of work. I wouldn't be surprised if he pissed on himself in the process, lol.
Agreed. This is my third winter vacation and I am disappointed in quality of chicas and the overall atmosphere of Sosua.
I don't think it was like this before. Girls are money hungry and without any concept that they should provide something of a value service in return. Spread the smelly pussy and take the money, that is it. I had to first have discussion with them to take the shower, then return them to have real wash of their pussy. Grab the money as soon as possible and go. If something can be snatched along the way even better, sun glasses, anything.
I don't think I will be coming back next year. Sosua is cheap but I don't think is worth it anymore. Also to mention, Passion is closed. That was the best source of good looking chicas in Sosua. It was great place but now it is gone.
I am in search of new winter destination with beaches, nice weather, that is reasonably safe and decent p4p quality. Do you guys have any recommendations, Panama, Colombia, Costarica, Brazil, Aruba?Some other options you might consider include Jaco in Costa Rica and Cartagena in Colombia, but those venues are very different than Sosua and aren't nearly as good and will be more expensive as well. I've been to both of these places and Sosua has them beat hands down.
I would do this in reverse: 4 days in Sosua, then SD for a week.
Trust me, you will be ready to leave Sosua after 4 days. Only because you will get tired of seeing the same crop of girls, beggars, change guys, etc, day in and day out.
Spend some time on Dominican Cupid. Find some chicas you would like to meet in SD. Go to Sosua and bang as many chicas as you can handle, then head to SD and spend some time with low mileage or "non pro" chicas. At this point it won't be such a big deal if you do not bang these SD chicas first time around because (if you do it right) you'll be begging for a much needed break from sex, LOL.In my experience with Dominican Cupid I have found it difficult at times being semi-fluent in Spanish and wouldn't advise anyone who doesn't speak any Spanish to try it as their choices will be limited to girls that speak English on the Site which is probably less than 5 percent.
You need to learn how to keep those broads in line. Don't let them run you.The problem is not in running them but dealing with that crap and not getting GFE. In the past most of the time I was happy with chicas. This time around it was like dealing with a new breed of chicas. I am not sure if it was just my string of bad luck on this trip or Sosua has changed for the worse.
The problem is not in running them but dealing with that crap and not getting GFE. In the past most of the time I was happy with chicas. This time around it was like dealing with a new breed of chicas. I am not sure if it was just my string of bad luck on this trip or Sosua has changed for the worse.It's probably a combination of both.
SavePros321
02-08-14, 16:11
In my experience with Dominican Cupid I have found it difficult at times being semi-fluent in Spanish and wouldn't advise anyone who doesn't speak any Spanish to try it as their choices will be limited to girls that speak English on the Site which is probably less than 5 percent.You are right. I probably should have added the "should speak and understand an 'above average' amount of Español" disclaimer.
Manizales911
02-08-14, 16:32
Seems like Sosua was flooded with chicas yesterday! Between 6 and 7 PM last night there were herds of them in front of Rumbas and this afternoon lots swarming around town and at the beach. Several Chicas I encountered yesterday and today during the day refused to accept 1,000 Pesos for short time and none of them were lookers. Two months ago I had no problem getting Chicas for 1,000 Pesos during the day. Is this because it's "high season" and the Chicas know this?The general going rate for ST in Sosua is 1500 and has been for quite some time, yes you can get girls sometimes for 1000 but really, the difference between 1000 and 1500 is 11 freeking dollars. The exchange rate yesterday topped 43-1 for the first time in years, come on now.
The general going rate for ST in Sosua is 1500 and has been for quite some time, yes you can get girls sometimes for 1000 but really, the difference between 1000 and 1500 is 11 freeking dollars. The exchange rate yesterday topped 43-1 for the first time in years, come on now.LOL I'm pretty sure and hope it's not the $11, but the idea paying extra for a non looker, two months later when the killers actually accepted it. We Momger's are forever cursed with the changing of times.
SavePros321
02-08-14, 18:26
Seems like Sosua was flooded with chicas yesterday! Between 6 and 7 PM last night there were herds of them in front of Rumbas and this afternoon lots swarming around town and at the beach. Several Chicas I encountered yesterday and today during the day refused to accept 1,000 Pesos for short time and none of them were lookers. Two months ago I had no problem getting Chicas for 1,000 Pesos during the day. Is this because it's "high season" and the Chicas know this?Honestly, it's probably just the luck of the draw. It's something you can expect to run into in a place like Sosua. Chicas come there with no rhyme or reason other than to make money and split. One weekend you could have a handful of stunners; the next weekend a handful of duds.
A group of stunners could hit Sosua with the goal of making X amount of money for tuition, a Samsung Galaxy, and some nice clothes for the semester. Once they achieve that goal, they may not return to Sosua until May.
Think of all the other scenarios:
-Sick family member.
-No food.
-Want to supplement the income she makes from her regular job.
-Was asked to tag along with her amiga / prima / tia. Decides "shit, while I'm here, why not (make some money)?" May not ever return to the P4P scene after that.
The problem is not in running them but dealing with that crap and not getting GFE. In the past most of the time I was happy with chicas. This time around it was like dealing with a new breed of chicas. I am not sure if it was just my string of bad luck on this trip or Sosua has changed for the worse.Could you share some examples of some of the things you observed or experienced?
A friend a mine. 2nd time to Sosua in 2 years had to learn a lesson the hard way. A young, very fair skinned chica he met on the playa, stole some toothpaste the 2nd time he invited her to his spot for a ST romp.
He invited her a 3rd time for another ST romp, and this time she stole his $90 us bottle of cologne. It was in the bathroom. It made me shake my head. After the one theft why would he leave anything out for her to see? His answer was he thought she would only steal something that was personally valuable to her. He never thought about her taking it for herself, selling it or gifting it to someone else. That experience was his reinforcement for next time.
The chica is very short. Like 5'. Black hair. Goes by Mercedes
SavePros321
02-08-14, 20:17
He invited her a 3rd time for another ST romp, and this time she stole his $90 us bottle of cologne. It was in the bathroom. It made me shake my head. After the one theft why would he leave anything out for her to see? His answer was he thought she would only steal something that was personally valuable to her. He never thought about her taking it for herself, selling it or gifting it to someone else. That experience was his reinforcement for next time.I bet his perspective would change if he found out that she stole his $90 bottle of cologne to give to her Dominican boyfriend.
Manizales911
02-08-14, 22:06
He invited her a 3rd time for another ST romp, and this time she stole his $90 us bottle of cologne. It was in the bathroom. It made me shake my head. After the one theft why would he leave anything out for her to see? His answer was he thought she would only steal something that was personally valuable to her. He never thought about her taking it for herself, selling it or gifting it to someone else. That experience was his reinforcement for next time.
The chica is very short. Like 5'. Black hair. Goes by MercedesWhy would he repeat with a girl that stole something from him in the first place?
Charles Pooter
02-08-14, 22:50
Goes by MercedesShe should be easy enough to identify. Most of them can only afford to go by motoconcho.
The Mind Bender
02-09-14, 01:00
The problem is not in running them but dealing with that crap and not getting GFE. In the past most of the time I was happy with chicas. This time around it was like dealing with a new breed of chicas. I am not sure if it was just my string of bad luck on this trip or Sosua has changed for the worse.Yeah I noticed that on my last trip around October. A lot of pretty girls with crazy bodies and shitty attitudes.
Mr Enternational
02-09-14, 03:12
She should be easy enough to identify. Most of them can only afford to go by motoconcho.LOL. CP you are a trip!
SavePros321
02-09-14, 04:26
Hat tip to TweedleD for this video link. I have never watched a Cuba Dave video until tonight. It's pretty good and should be required watching for newbies and vets alike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 06:13
Hat tip to TweedleD for this video link. I have never watched a Cuba Dave video until tonight. It's pretty good and should be required watching for newbies and vets alike:Watched for about two minutes. The premise is all wrong: if someone thinks that he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money, the person is either a die hard romantic or an idiot. If you realize you cannot save anyone or have rosy future expectations (least of all, of exclusivity), you are fine. Indeed in that case, you decide whether to, who to, when to, how many to and so forth. I have a feeling that people dread solitude so much that at a certain age, they get desperate and try to save. Ah well!
My eyes are not deceiving me. 1st thing in the morning fresh chicas are still in full effect walking around. I guess you have morning shift, afternoon shift, early evening shift, late night shift and late late night shifts. And I'm sure enough of these chicas work all of these shifts. One of my buddies was checking out and flying today, so a group of us took him to NG for breakfast. This is the friend that had his expensive bottle of cologne stolen from a chica he had 3 times this trip. He went over the details again at the table, telling us how he told her he was leaving the next day. And how she put on a Golden Globe performance acting like she was sad to see him go. I take that back, maybe she wasnt acting? After seeing how sloppy my buddy was, and him announcing his departure the next day, he probably did make her a little sad to see him go. He was an untapped resource for her. So much more shit she could pull on my buddy. He is an older dude.
Nevertheless, we told him he shouldn't have told her when he was leaving, and of course not securing his stuff. Meanwhile, my Galaxy phone chica was having breakfast in NG with her date from last night. I saw her uncomfortably cutting her eyes towards my direction to see if I spotted her. I certainly saw her, so I blew her a kiss as if to say, it's all good, you take care of your company. The reason why I'm mentioning this, is because prior to me coming back to the DR, this chica was sending me a shitload of syrupy shit on Whatsapp. Acting like I was supposed to be her new boyfriend/lover. I miss you, te amo, please buy me a Galaxy for my BD when you coming back, sexy pics, kisses, you name it she sent it on whatsapp.
So here we are not 48 hrs with her finally back in Sosua, and one session with me under her belt, and now my sexy chica is having breakfast with another guy. So for her to see me at breakfast with my friends while she is with her date, the chica must have felt a little uncomfortable. Mainly because it has not sunk in with her yet, that I am a secure monger and don't give a shit what the fuck she does on somebody elses time. Many of these chicas thrive on the hopes that the dudes they are charming are falling for the ton of shit they lay on them.
But when they get busted in their own deceptive game, they don't know how the target is going to take it. But I did school her on Whatsapp 2 weeks ago, that I am cool about her going to work, and that she doesn't have to play those persuasive games with me. About 20 minutes later while sitting at Rockys, she was passing by, came up to me to seek comfort that I was not mad at her or thought ill of her seeing her with her date. My embrace assured her that we were cool. She walked off merrily, probably looking for some morning work. She called later that night, but I wanted other juice.
Today was my date with the La Vega chica I met in Santiago at the restaurant. We agreed to meet at 2 at the same place. Chica was a little afraid of our meeting, because she didn't leave La Vega until she was sure I was really coming. Apparently she thought I might stand her up. I got there 1:45, and she got there about 2:40. Chica was smoking. Red hair, tight jean shorts cut off at the knee, and clear high heels. We had an appetizer since neither of us was hungry, and drinks.
My spanish was being put to the test. Now I'm in a non p4p situation and have to really communicate like a regular couple. Thanks to my limited spanish abilities (speaking and comprehension) and my Ipad translator app, we got through our time at the restaurant. Afterwards we went across the street and went up all the way up to the monument. Stopping to take pictures along the way, a little affectionate embracing. Chica initiated taking kissing fotos. When it was time to walk all the way back down, we were holding hands like were already a couple. Although I think I was doing it more because I didn't want her to fall with those high heels she had on. Chica is 32 with a 13yr old. Later I had to pick up a few things at the supermercado, and so did she. When it was time for her to head back to La Vega, she couldn't tell me where she needed to catch the public bus, so after driving in circles, I decided to just drive her to La Vega. Dropped her off at a taxi stand in La Vega, a quick kiss and a thank you, and I was on my way back to Sosua. Chica says she can cook. Would like to go to the beach. So maybe we have something we can build on. She was a pleasure to meet. No bad vibes or awkward moments between us.
So once again, the La Vega chica & I to be continued.
Got back to Sosua around 9pm, and during my ride one of my regulars still in town was blowing up my phone. Since we had not been together in about a week or so, her juice would have been a nice treat to top off the night. I stopped at Rockys got the garlic chicken. Ate half and took the rest home. This chica came over in a red dress as if she was going to the prom on Valentines day. It was very sexy, but a bit much for what we were about to do. Said she was hungry, opened my fridge, and found my leftovers. She devoured the food, like it was her last meal.
She was supposed to be going to D'Latins I suppose, to sport her dress, but I guess after our leche filled session she must have changed her mind and decided to sleep instead? Still got 2 weeks to go. I'm still baffled by some guys saying only a few days in Sosua is enough, or a week is too much. I think having a place that feels like home, and living with other expats in a community is partly responsible for my tolerance for Sosua. Plus I like the beach, and getting in the car to explore. I think anyone could get bored if the most they do is p4p (along with dealing with the hustlers etc) and not doing anything else that is fulfilling except for dropping leche loads. And perhaps they don't really enjoy being in their hotels?
Next week, I am going to look for a bicycle for exercise and for easy local transportation.
Hat tip to TweedleD for this video link. I have never watched a Cuba Dave video until tonight. It's pretty good and should be required watching for newbies and vets alike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552EI downloaded that video when it 1st came out a while back. I also downloaded one of his other videos that he did before the Sending Her Money Video. It is entitled RFM (Request For Money ). One thing though, I'll bet he has a ton of personal examples of sending chicas money or has sent chicas money on request. He doesn't elaborate too much of his own mistakes, he tells you about what happened to other guys. When it comes to himself, not much detail. I like the analogies he uses to make his point.
Why would he repeat with a girl that stole something from him in the first place?He has several things working against him for why he repeated with her. The toothpaste was a small tube, so he wrote it off as she probably needed it. That sympathy perspective gets a lot of us in trouble underestimating people. Two, he is a much older cat, new to mongering in Sosua, who just doesn't know what to expect or fully how to conduct himself here in the jungle. Three, he was just being stupid for leaving shit out. Many dudes are sporting thieves for company but don't know it. Meaning, many dudes including vets repeat with thieves, but may not be aware they are thieves. Here's a question. Why do guys repeat with thieves or potential thieves even if they never stole from them?
He has several things working against him for why he repeated with her. The toothpaste was a small tube, so he wrote it off as she probably needed it. That sympathy perspective gets a lot of us in trouble underestimating people. Two, he is a much older cat, new to mongering in Sosua, who just doesn't know what to expect or fully how to conduct himself here in the jungle. Three, he was just being stupid for leaving shit out. Many dudes are sporting thieves for company but don't know it. Meaning, many dudes including vets repeat with thieves, but may not be aware they are thieves. Here's a question. Why do guys repeat with thieves or potential thieves even if they never stole from them?I have repeated with someone I know is a thief on my home turf in Tijuana but with extreme caution (button down the hatches with your belongings). The reason I repeated is because the sex was off the charts with them.
Manizales911
02-09-14, 15:03
Here's a question. Why do guys repeat with thieves or potential thieves even if they never stole from them?My answer to the first part of the question is that they are idiots, nobody I know would do that. And they're ALL potential thieves in a third world country.
SavePros321
02-09-14, 15:05
Why do guys repeat with thieves or potential thieves even if they never stole from them?Because guys don't think with their "big" head. If you tell your buddy that this smoking hot chica just stole $100 from your safe a few days ago (because you forgot to lock it while in the shower) , your buddy may be thinking one of two things:
-"Well, she didn't steal from ME"
-"He's just trying to keep her for himself"
Lmao!
SavePros321
02-09-14, 15:08
Today was my date with the La Vega chica I met in Santiago at the restaurant. We agreed to meet at 2 at the same place. Chica was a little afraid of our meeting, because she didn't leave La Vega until she was sure I was really coming. Apparently she thought I might stand her up. I got there 1:45, and she got there about 2:40. Chica was smoking. Red hair, tight jean shorts cut off at the knee, and clear high heels. We had an appetizer since neither of us was hungry, and drinks.
My spanish was being put to the test. Now I'm in a non p4p situation and have to really communicate like a regular couple. Thanks to my limited spanish abilities (speaking and comprehension) and my Ipad translator app, we got through our time at the restaurant. Afterwards we went across the street and went up all the way up to the monument. Stopping to take pictures along the way, a little affectionate embracing. Chica initiated taking kissing fotos. When it was time to walk all the way back down, we were holding hands like were already a couple. Although I think I was doing it more because I didn't want her to fall with those high heels she had on. Chica is 32 with a 13yr old. Later I had to pick up a few things at the supermercado, and so did she. When it was time for her to head back to La Vega, she couldn't tell me where she needed to catch the public bus, so after driving in circles, I decided to just drive her to La Vega. Dropped her off at a taxi stand in La Vega, a quick kiss and a thank you, and I was on my way back to Sosua. Chica says she can cook. Would like to go to the beach. So maybe we have something we can build on. She was a pleasure to meet. No bad vibes or awkward moments between us.
So once again, the La Vega chica & I to be continued.
Got back to Sosua around 9pmGood report bro. Although I'm surprised you had the balls to be driving at night! I've rode in a cab from Blackbeard's to Sousa once and that road seemed very treacherous.
I'm still baffled by some guys saying only a few days in Sosua is enough, or a week is too much. I think having a place that feels like home, and living with other expats in a community is partly responsible for my tolerance for Sosua. Plus I like the beach, and getting in the car to explore. I think anyone could get bored if the most they do is p4p (along with dealing with the hustlers etc) and not doing anything else that is fulfilling except for dropping leche loads. And perhaps they don't really enjoy being in their hotels?
I think that is key. You have an apartment, so that is a game changer. More privacy, a couch to sit on (and not a wooden stool like at Terra Linda), a stove, etc. I could not bee cooped up in a hotel room for a week in Sosua. The area surrounding the strip is so small that everyone (the hustlers, change guys, and of course the chicas) know your business. They know what day you arrived, which chica(s) you have banged, where you go to eat, etc. Plus, if you are staying at a place like New Garden, you've got all the guys hanging around outside their rooms hawking every chica that you bring through there.
The long short of it is that you've got an apartment, rental car, and established outside (of Sosua) connections. I would not be bored with those options. But I would be with seeing the same group of chicas day in and day out, dealing with the same hustlers day in and day out, eating the same restaurant or hotel food, and being confined to one block (the strip).
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 15:18
Later I had to pick up a few things at the supermercado, and so did she. When it was time for her to head back to La Vega, she couldn't tell me where she needed to catch the public bus, so after driving in circles, I decided to just drive her to La Vega.Driving her to La Vega was a nice gesture. Next time, should you need, ask for "La parada de Treinta de Marzo". The bus stop at 30 de Marzo, which is about a 5-minute drive from el monumento towards the west. You can google the map obviously. There are two buses for La Vega that have their terminus there. La Uchomvesa and Expres Vegano, other than many other guaguas from other towns as well.
This trip I have been with two Haitiain's and have been disappointed compared to my experiences with them back in December. I picked up both at Central Bar in the evening. With the first one I agreed to 1,500 Pesos as she wouldn't go for any less and was actually lighter skinned than her Haitian sisters. She almost looked Polynesian and had a cute little body. Upon arriving to the room she wouldn't take a shower and said she had just taken one. She was a good performer and I was satisfied but shocked when I saw what she did in the bathroom. While I was taking a shower she sat on the toilet and cleaned her snatch with soap and a paper cup using water from the toilet. Yikes, and then upon dressing she begged me for 2,000 Pesos which I refused to.
The second one I went with gave a hell of a sales pitch about how slow and good it would be with her, etc. And was very warm and friendly on the street. She also had a nice body as most of the Haitians do so I took her to the room for the agreed upon amount of 1, 250 Pesos. Money wasn't the problem with this one. Upon entering the room she became somewhat cold, took off her clothes, and proceeded to clean her snatch just like the previous one on the toilet. Then she pointed to me to clean my junk in the bathroom sink. Yikes, what's with these Haitians. I told this one she needed to change her attitude, sit on the bed and relax a little bit, and that I had no problem cleaning myself but in the shower. So she sat on the bed and understood I was mad and put on a smile. I came out and she actually gave a good strong blow job but when it came to the sex she had rules, was mechanical, and wouldn't get on top. I couldn't get off so she agreed to finish me orally but said I couldn't finish in her mouth which was okay. Upon taking a shower she again sat on the toilet to clean herself. I didn't comment on her hygiene methods but did scold her for being sweet on the street and cold in the room. I also told her that a lot of her sisters at Bar Central perform and please and get repeat business which she won't be getting from me.
Going with these Haitians is new territory for me, I had a few on my last trip that where warm, friendly, affectionate, and nasty which I like. Perhaps these Haitians are becoming more in demand and can get by being bad performers, asking for more money, etc. Just like the Dominicans or perhaps I just wasn't lucky with the ones I chose. As far as these girls hygiene, I don't know what to think.
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 15:54
My answer to the first part of the question is that they are idiots, nobody I know would do that. And they're ALL potential thieves in a third world country."All potential thieves"? I did not know it was geography specific. I was just speaking with my niece whose galaxy was stolen (or lost and never found. To use an euphemism) at her public school in the South East where she is a sophomore. My son is a freshman in a private school where they give ipads to use for school work and you see such things strewn across school.
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 15:56
LOL. CP you are a trip!Totally; I too cracked up!
I don't remember seeing so many Chica's with big butts here! And to top that off, they seem to be doing a brisk business. I am amazed at how many guys are going with these girls. One skinny guy I saw who was about six foot tall went with a girl that's ass had to of been at least three feet wide. In Colombia a lot of the Chicas have boob jobs but here I guess a lot of the Chica's pig out as there obviously is a market for big booty's.
Chica is 32 with a 13yr old. Later I had to pick up a few things at the supermercado, and so did she. When it was time for her to head back to La Vega, she couldn't tell me where she needed to catch the public bus, so after driving in circles, I decided to just drive her to La Vega. Dropped her off at a taxi stand in La Vega, a quick kiss and a thank you, and I was on my way back to Sosua. Chica says she can cook. Would like to go to the beach. So maybe we have something we can build on. She was a pleasure to meet. No bad vibes or awkward moments between us.Pah, and you fell for all this? Chica is 32, so already past sell date and desperate with menopause approaching, if she is actually telling you her real age. So does she have a real job and a real source of revenue to live independently and support her child?
Clearly she expected you to take her to a cabana, of which there are numerous in Santiago, for example on the carretera on the way to the airport (and LaVega) for 300 pesos and up, and you must have passed them on the way to LaVega. She started the kissy stuff because you were too slow and the clock was running.
Of course she knew how to get back to LaVega. You could have dropped her at the Caribe Tours bus station, or she could have asked anyone where the parada for publico taxis to LaVega is, if she really did not know, which I severely doubt.
Of course she can cook. They can all cook if that includes putting everything in an aluminum caldero, adding that red universal seasoning, and burning the hell out of it and using about 3x as much cooking gas as necessary.
I was talking to a chica the other day who wants to go to the US. I said the quality of life is much better in the DR, but she said even if you have a job a single parent cannot make enough to live on, so you need one or two novios to provide extra benefits (Galaxy phones, or long hair pieces, or medicines). The men get the friendship and the Dominican women get the benefits.
She is just trying to play the long game with you. Let us know what happens. (And how come your Spanish is suddenly so limited? You had no trouble with in depth discussions with chicas before.)
SavePros321
02-09-14, 18:17
While I was taking a shower she sat on the toilet and cleaned her snatch with soap and a paper cup using water from the toilet.
The second one I went with gave a hell of a sales pitch about how slow and good it would be with her, etc. And was very warm and friendly on the street. She also had a nice body as most of the Haitians do so I took her to the room for the agreed upon amount of 1, 250 Pesos. Upon taking a shower she again sat on the toilet to clean herself. How did yall come to 1250 pesos, LOL?
As for the toilet cleansing, that's pretty gross considering you may have just pissed and shitted in it earlier. Are these Sosua chicas in so much of a rush now that they forgo bathing (and even the chance to)?
This trip I have been with two Haitiain's and have been disappointed compared to my experiences with them back in December. I picked up both at Central Bar in the evening. With the first one I agreed to 1,500 Pesos as she wouldn't go for any less and was actually lighter skinned than her Haitian sisters. She almost looked Polynesian and had a cute little body. Upon arriving to the room she wouldn't take a shower and said she had just taken one. She was a good performer and I was satisfied but shocked when I saw what she did in the bathroom. While I was taking a shower she sat on the toilet and cleaned her snatch with soap and a paper cup using water from the toilet.I think I know her. Did a threesome with her and she was a fantastic performer and muncher of pussy and very pleasant personality. Oh, yeah, baby! 20 years old. 1 child age 2, stays in Charamicos, but lived in Santiago for 3 years and has decent Spanish. If she is the one I am thinking of she has a VERY long hair weave of high class oriental natural hair (looks a bit Gauginesque) and would not want to get that hair wet in the shower. Surprised at her using water from the toilet. Ugh! Why not tap water? As I recall, she used Dasani water from a bottle!
http://www.jungny.com/images.jungian.therapy.analysis/tahitian%20women%20bathing. 504x413. Jpg
"All potential thieves"? I did not know it was geography specific. I was just speaking with my niece whose galaxy was stolen (or lost and never found. To use an euphemism) at her public school in the South East where she is a sophomore. My son is a freshman in a private school where they give ipads to use for school work and you see such things strewn across school.Someone stole my toothpaste from the staff bathroom at work (in Florida) and the only people who had access were state government employees with a particular set of keys
Watched for about two minutes. The premise is all wrong: if someone thinks that he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money, the person is either a die hard romantic or an idiot. If you realize you cannot save anyone or have rosy future expectations (least of all, of exclusivity), you are fine. Indeed in that case, you decide whether to, who to, when to, how many to and so forth. I have a feeling that people dread solitude so much that at a certain age, they get desperate and try to save. Ah well!I agree. I do not find Cuba Dave to be very credible at all. He says he has received hundreds of e-mails asking him if guys should send money to chicas to keep them off the street. Really? Hundreds of e-mails?
Then, although his Spanish is apparently very limited to non existent, he is able to quote in detail from conversations that must have taken place in Spanish.
It would be more credible if he could give a specific example of a woman he knows who is getting $2000 per month on Western Union and still tricking in D'Latino's (no need to mention names). I am sure it is entirely possible, but the examples he give typically lack detail and it is by no means clear that he has spoken to the people concerned.
I agree 100% that it would be stupid to offer to send money to a girl in the hope that it would keep her off the street and save her from prostitution if she was that way inclined.
On the other hand there might be specific reasons to send money to someone with whom one had an ongoing relationship. Men around Sosua vary from occasional weekend warriors to part-time residents, to full time residents, and at some point many guys get tired of tricking in bars and develop some kind of ongoing domestic or semi domestic relationship with someone they like.
I bet his perspective would change if he found out that she stole his $90 bottle of cologne to give to her Dominican boyfriend.No doubt, but I think this time he was just pissed about how much he paid for that cologne. The toothpaste wasnt important nor did it cost him much.
I have repeated with someone I know is a thief on my home turf in Tijuana but with extreme caution (button down the hatches with your belongings). The reason I repeated is because the sex was off the charts with them.And thats the most likely reason.
Because guys don't think with their "big" head. If you tell your buddy that this smoking hot chica just stole $100 from your safe a few days ago (because you forgot to lock it while in the shower) , your buddy may be thinking one of two things:
-"Well, she didn't steal from ME"
-"He's just trying to keep her for himself"
Lmao!Sometimes when some guys get older they just arent as sharp as they once was. I wasnt there with every chica he had. There is no telling what kind of mistakes he was making. Things he said to them and things he did around them.
Manizales911
02-09-14, 19:17
It would be more credible if he could give a specific example of a woman he knows who is getting $2000 per month on Western Union and still tricking in D'Latino's (no need to mention names). I am sure it is entirely possible, but the examples he give typically lack detail and it is by no means clear that he has spoken to the people concerned.Though I would agree that $2000. A month sounds like a stretch I personally have met three different girls who had more than one WU novios, all three still "worked".
One of them showed me her bank statement with over a million pesos in it, if I have a picture of her I'll post it, she has worked at both BB's, FOD and god knows where else, I guarantee some guys will recognize her, her name is Jackeline, she spells it different than that I think. She has four WU idiots sending her money. She told me she banks the WU money and lives off of the "working" money. She is a real sweetheart, speaks perfect english with huge natural breasts.
I met a former BB's employee in Azua whose Canadian novio bought her a beautiful house, a nightclub and a brand new SUV, he visits one week out of every month and she isn't that hot.
Foreigners sending money to girls on a monthly basis is rampant, I could go on forever with other examples of known girls that receive WU payments.
I'm not a big fan of CubaDave but that video should be mandatory reading in monger 101 class.
Manizales911
02-09-14, 19:31
"All potential thieves"? I did not know it was geography specific. I was just speaking with my niece whose galaxy was stolen (or lost and never found. To use an euphemism) at her public school in the South East where she is a sophomore. My son is a freshman in a private school where they give ipads to use for school work and you see such things strewn across school.I didn't say it never happened elsewhere but the fact of the matter is that petty theft is much more prevalent in a poor country Tempoecorto, you know that as well as anybody.
I don't remember seeing so many Chica's with big butts here! And to top that off, they seem to be doing a brisk business. I am amazed at how many guys are going with these girls. One skinny guy I saw who was about six foot tall went with a girl that's ass had to of been at least three feet wide. In Colombia a lot of the Chicas have boob jobs but here I guess a lot of the Chica's pig out as there obviously is a market for big booty's.Surfer my man there are a lot of butt injections going on in the area. I first notice it in the Santo Domingo casas. I later became a victim of one in Sosua. You really can't blame them. They are selling their bodies and the sexies body gets the most business. I'm sure Eve double her business when she added to fake boobs in hair extensions. The girl that fooled me was pretty, young, slim, had a fat gorgeous clean shaven snach, but it was her Nicki Minajing chemical enhance fat ass that got her the 1500 peso deal. You are witnessing the calm before the storm
SavePros321
02-09-14, 19:55
Watched for about two minutes. The premise is all wrong: if someone thinks that he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money, the person is either a die hard romantic or an idiot.You missed the entire purpose of the video. Apparently there ARE some guys that think "he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money". If you have hung around ISG for any length of time you can't help but come across some of these (horror) stories (like the guy who married a well-known pro (Daniela) and had his wedding in Classicos).
Your assessment of the video is not in alignment with the (overwhelmingly positive) comments left by guys who have watched the video.
Photos courtesy of Orgasmico:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1274614&viewfull=1#post1274614
Video Model Daniela: http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo
I don't have the link to the suicide letter one monger sent her, lol. I think this was something only us old heads were aware of and discussed behind the scenes.
Pah, and you fell for all this? Chica is 32, so already past sell date and desperate with menopause approaching, if she is actually telling you her real age. So does she have a real job and a real source of revenue to live independently and support her child?
Clearly she expected you to take her to a cabana, of which there are numerous in Santiago, for example on the carretera on the way to the airport (and LaVega) for 300 pesos and up, and you must have passed them on the way to LaVega. She started the kissy stuff because you were too slow and the clock was running.
Of course she knew how to get back to LaVega. You could have dropped her at the Caribe Tours bus station, or she could have asked anyone where the parada for publico taxis to LaVega is, if she really did not know, which I severely doubt.
Of course she can cook. They can all cook if that includes putting everything in an aluminum caldero, adding that red universal seasoning, and burning the hell out of it and using about 3x as much cooking gas as necessary.
I was talking to a chica the other day who wants to go to the US. I said the quality of life is much better in the DR, but she said even if you have a job a single parent cannot make enough to live on, so you need one or two novios to provide extra benefits (Galaxy phones, or long hair pieces, or medicines). The men get the friendship and the Dominican women get the benefits.
She is just trying to play the long game with you. Let us know what happens. (And how come your Spanish is suddenly so limited? You had no trouble with in depth discussions with chicas before.) You are not off base, this chica is definitely a candidate for playing the long game with any dude she may meet. However what she wants for the long haul don't mean jack if I'm not supporting her plan. Don't you think thats an important part of the puzzle? Whatever I did with this chica so far, was nothing. Cost me gas, time, an appetizer and 2 drinks. So whatever I supposedly fell for is definitely in your brain, not in mine. I only think in one head.
My answer to the first part of the question is that they are idiots, nobody I know would do that. And they're ALL potential thieves in a third world country.So I guess your question of the dude I was talking about was rhetorical? I don't think a person has to be an idiot for that to happen. It's called making a mistake. Even an intelligent person can make an idiotic mistake.
Driving her to La Vega was a nice gesture. Next time, should you need, ask for "La parada de Treinta de Marzo". The bus stop at 30 de Marzo, which is about a 5-minute drive from el monumento towards the west. You can google the map obviously. There are two buses for La Vega that have their terminus there. La Uchomvesa and Expres Vegano, other than many other guaguas from other towns as well.Hopefully there won't be a next time, but I'll try to store this info. This particular chica knew where to catch the bus, but couldn't tell how to get there from where we were at. Rather than ask for directions (which I was free to do) , I elected to drive her. Caught her by surprise.
You missed the entire purpose of the video. Apparently there ARE some guys that think "he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money". If you have hung around ISG for any length of time you can't help but come across some of these (horror) stories (like the guy who married a well-known pro (Daniela) and had his wedding in Classicos).
You assessment of the video is not in alignment with the (overwhelmingly positive) comments left by guys who have watched the video.
Photos courtesy of Orgasmico:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1274614&viewfull=1#post1274614
Video Model Daniela:
http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo
I don't have the link to the suicide letter One monger sent her, LOL. I think this was something only us old heads were aware of and discussed behind the scenes.Thats really all it boils down to. One doesn't even have to believe Cubadave knows the players he's talking about, or if he received emails from dudes asking for feedback. The idea is just to understand the pertinent issues being addressed in the videos. Now if somebody has a more in depth account of the issue, so be it. It aint that serious.
(And how come your Spanish is suddenly so limited? You had no trouble with in depth discussions with chicas before.)You have never been with me to know what the depth of my communications have been with any other chicas, so how would you know this was a sudden limitation? Let me pick your brain. Give me your specific account of my spanish abilities with other chicas? Then your account of my communication with the La Vega chica? Once your done, then we'll see which one of us may be the one with limitations when it comes to reading comprehension of what others post.
Sometimes when some guys get older they just arent as sharp as they once was.I completely disagree. The older guys are more seasoned. The younger guys still don't have a fucking clue in this hobby.
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 22:27
You missed the entire purpose of the video. Apparently there ARE some guys that think "he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money".I am not saying such people do not exist, I said the premise for sending money is wrong, that of having expectatiions. As I stated clearly, some are born romantics, idiots or so afraid of loneliness, they would try anything and so hundred hours of domenican dave's video lecture would not do any good or a friend's advice for that matter. History does not teach anything, especially others'.
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 22:45
I didn't say it never happened elsewhere but the fact of the matter is that petty theft is much more prevalent in a poor country Tempoecorto, you know that as well as anybody.Well, respectfully, the only time my passport was stolen was in Rome. On the way from the airport to the city by bus and I was a green horn. I think the chance of being a subject of petty crime is very high in all touristy areas, no matter whether one is in the developed or the third world. I remember the seamy kind of locals I saw in Delhi, India, where the budget tourists congregate. I also remember the "red light" area in Oslo, in Reeperbahn or Tijuana, for that matter. On the other hand, outside of such areas, people are just people. Hunger at one end or designer clothes at the other notwithstanding. The scare factor is more likely a stereotype, in my modest experience.
Tempoecorto
02-09-14, 23:25
On the other hand there might be specific reasons to send money to someone with whom one had an ongoing relationship. Men around Sosua vary from occasional weekend warriors to part-time residents, to full time residents, and at some point many guys get tired of tricking in bars and develop some kind of ongoing domestic or semi domestic relationship with someone they like.I know a woman- a white domenican. About 27 with two kids. I have not been to bed with her despite having sent her money many times over. She is from Bonao and used to work in Santiago. Speaks immaculate Spanish and writes better than any other I have known, without the spelling errors rampant in the DR. Indeed the other day she told me that it is Niccolo Macchiavelli who had stated "end justifies the means". I never knew that. Lost her Job sometime ago and life has been a struggle. I have been to her house (met her dad). Hovel is more of an apt description but easily one of the nicest person I know. Her younger sister could not find any opportunity and so joined the church and is presently in Italy as a nun. This woman is now waiting to hear about a govt contract job that if she is lucky to get, will last a mere year. It would be nice to find a kind man, who knows even from this fraternity, for her.
I completely disagree. The older guys are more seasoned. The younger guys still don't have a fucking clue in this hobby.So you completely disagree? Disagree with what? I never said All older guys, I said some. And I said sometimes. For the record, when people disagree they usually have opposing views where a distinction can be made where they disagree. I don't see an opposing view, I see one of is making a generalization of older guys, and the other is not. The fact this one older dude made the mistakes he did kinda proves he wasnt seasoned in this hobby as he could be.
So you completely disagree? Disagree with what? I never said All older guys, I said some. And I said sometimes. For the record, when people disagree they usually have opposing views where a distinction can be made where they disagree. I don't see an opposing view, I see one of is making a generalization of older guys, and the other is not. The fact this one older dude made the mistakes he did kinda proves he wasnt seasoned in this hobby as he could be.So how old is an older guy anyways?
So you completely disagree? Disagree with what? I never said All older guys, I said some. And I said sometimes. For the record, when people disagree they usually have opposing views where a distinction can be made where they disagree. I don't see an opposing view, I see one of is making a generalization of older guys, and the other is not. The fact this one older dude made the mistakes he did kinda proves he wasnt seasoned in this hobby as he could be.It's just my opinion. Didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch.
My opinion is based on 37 years of observation and experience throughout 40+ countries. I've seen way more youngsters than us older farts take a serious plunge for the working girls, especially in SEA. 27 years in the military allowed me to learn by others' mistakes.
Us old fucks no longer think with the little head, at least in the cases I have seen. I'm a people watcher and I've seen and experienced quite a bit in my lifetime, thus, my opinion.
The one older dude you mentioned was perhaps new to the hobby? That happens as well.
Well I had heard about it and today I saw with my own eyes. A big fat older white chick (I'm assuming a gringa) forty plus with two tall Dominican men and a hot blonde (seemed to be from Scandnavia or near there) who was with a Dominican guy. These girls are probably have a blast down here just like us.
Tempoecorto
02-10-14, 02:10
They can all cook if that includes putting everything in an aluminum caldero, adding that red universal seasoning, and burning the hell out of it and using about 3x as much cooking gas as necessary.Please allow me to contradict you. I have had the opportunity of eating two women's cooking. I love goat meat and they made it for me and I thought both were superb. Now, that food is somewhat like my native Indian curry and so perhaps that is the reason why I liked it and if you are not into that, you may hate it. Granted!
Mr Enternational
02-10-14, 02:34
How did yall come to 1250 pesos, LOL?
As for the toilet cleansing, that's pretty gross considering you may have just pissed and shitted in it earlier. Are these Sosua chicas in so much of a rush now that they forgo bathing (and even the chance to)?I just want to know if he ate the pussy.
Mr Enternational
02-10-14, 02:42
Hopefully there won't be a next time, but I'll try to store this info. This particular chica knew where to catch the bus, but couldn't tell how to get there from where we were at. Rather than ask for directions (which I was free to do) , I elected to drive her. Caught her by surprise.No surprise at all Wrx. I went out with a girl in Santiago before and when it came time to take her home she did not know how to get to her house. After so much time I got fed up and pulled over and flagged down a taxi and gave her 300 pesos to get home. Total airhead.
Driving isn't a problem. When I first met my girl I drove her back to Higuey from Santo Domingo. I didn't have shit else to do and I always wanted to see Higuey. I ended up spending the night at her crib and with her family treating me like a king the rest is history.
Mr Enternational
02-10-14, 02:50
Us old fucks no longer think with the little head, at least in the cases I have seen. I'm a people watcher and I've seen and experienced quite a bit in my lifetime, thus, my opinion....Said the guy who had me sticking my entire right hand up a girl's pussy and my entire left hand up the same girl's ass... AT THE SAME DAMN TIME! You were definitely people watching then huh buddy?
LickedWhat
02-10-14, 02:51
Well I had heard about it and today I saw with my own eyes. A big fat older white chick (I'm assuming a gringa) forty plus with two tall Dominican men and a hot blonde (seemed to be from Scandnavia or near there) who was with a Dominican guy. These girls are probably have a blast down here just like us.I saw one too, a couple nights ago. Possibly the first of the ones you saw, she was standing with a young Dominican guy and looked like she was really enjoying herself. I definitely hope she was. There should be more women mongers and fewer haters (of either sex).
.Said the guy who had me sticking my entire right hand up a girl's pussy and my entire left hand up the same girl's ass. AT THE SAME DAMN TIME! You were definitely people watching then huh buddy?Wait a god damn minute! I don't recall pointing a gun to your head while you were doing the nasty deed, but I do recall a huge fucking grin!
Going with these Haitians is new territory for me, I had a few on my last trip that where warm, friendly, affectionate, and nasty which I like. Perhaps these Haitians are becoming more in demand and can get by being bad performers, asking for more money, etc. Just like the Dominicans or perhaps I just wasn't lucky with the ones I chose. As far as these girls hygiene, I don't know what to think.Surf did you change your sells pitch? Did you hit them with the I am not sure about Haitians " why do these girl say Haitians are nasty and can't be trusted". Why do the say don't mess with your kind etc. Did you use reverse psychology on them as before? Set them up, to make them want to show you the Dominican chicas are hating on Haitians. I will run that game until the cows come home. It worked well for you last time. Lastly, did you EAT the pussy!
Hopefully there won't be a next time, but I'll try to store this info. This particular chica knew where to catch the bus, but couldn't tell how to get there from where we were at. Rather than ask for directions (which I was free to do) , I elected to drive her. Caught her by surprise.How far was the drive one way?
Surf did you change your sells pitch? Did you hit them with the I am not sure about Haitians " why do these girl say Haitians are nasty and can't be trusted". Why do the say don't mess with your kind etc. Did you use reverse psychology on them as before? Set them up, to make them want to show you the Dominican chicas are hating on Haitians. I will run that game until the cows come home. It worked well for you last time. Lastly, did you EAT the pussy!That's funny! Well tonight I tried another Haitian who was thin with a pretty face and a cute as a button ass who I kind of be-friended on the Strip which sometimes works well for me versus the psychology stuff. Met her around 10 PM and chit-chatted, told her I couldn't go as I had just eaten (not toilet washed pussy) and was full and walked around for an hour and interviewed a couple of girls and found a thin white chick who I was thinking of going with until she told me she had three kids. Besides sticking my dick into toilet washed pussies I didn't want to go with a girl that potentially might be very loose. I then kept checking her out and thought about a few girls I have gone with before with three kids that are actually tight and decided to go with her but it was too late, she walked off with someone else. A little later I ran into the Haitian again and she asked me to take her and I could pay her what ever I wanted. Instant "red flag" and I said no and then she said she would accept 1, 000 Pesos so I said okay. This one had a nice demeanor and a great smile. She was very easy to get along with and sweet. She also skipped the toilet wash and headed right into the shower. I gave her a back massage and she gave a nice blow job and was a good sport about it taking me a while to finish. I'm still experimenting with these Haitians and won't be out on the Strip the next couple of nights as I have some Dominican Dating Site girls coming over for sleepovers and I eat these girls pussies!
Mr Enternational
02-10-14, 06:21
How far was the drive one way?From Santiago to La Vega about 45 minutes.
Spend my morning a Black beards chica draining my love juice ahaha.
$50 taxi ride to Sosua and check into my hotel at Terra Linda. Spend the afternoon browsing shops and looking for non monger activities. Stumbled onto a place that had the most beautiful server. I decided right away that this is the woman I'm going to marry. Total non pro. I spent hours trying to close that deal. Trying.
Out walking around I was stopped by two workers (separately) that offered services for dos mil. I give the WTF and they quickly change to 1500.
Later at night I wondered into a spot on the main drag called D'Latin. This place kinda puts me in the mind of del rey in san jose. I hadn't been keeping up with the boards and didn't know its been there a year. It was atleast 200 girls in and out of there during the night. Plenty of lookers. Most asked for 2000-2500. I mami, too mucho and they right away lower by 500dop. The super stunners were really proud of themselves and wouldn't budge from 3500dop. I saw guys approach but it didn't appear any were willing to seal the deal at 3500.
Spent time drinking, talking and dancing with plenty of girls. Finally just picked one to take care of me for an hour before I slept.
So how old is an older guy anyways?But I was talking to a dude I know at the beach yesterday. He kept saying in conversation, he was a old dude (blah blah blah ). The thing is, he is only 53. My friend that had his cologne stolen was 71. I would consider him an older dude, more than the other guy who is only 53. But depending on who the principals are, the 53 yr old could be considered an older dude if one is relating / comparing him to someone much younger than him.
It's just my opinion. Didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch.
My opinion is based on 37 years of observation and experience throughout 40+ countries. I've seen way more youngsters than us older farts take a serious plunge for the working girls, especially in SEA. 27 years in the military allowed me to learn by others' mistakes.
Us old fucks no longer think with the little head, at least in the cases I have seen. I'm a people watcher and I've seen and experienced quite a bit in my lifetime, thus, my opinion.
The one older dude you mentioned was perhaps new to the hobby? That happens as well.You will be pleased to know, you did no such thing Tom. Remember, I only think in one head. I can't process what you read from me in my head. You feel something I don't.
I'm reading your explanation , and what I'm reading confirms that you and I don't completely disagree with each other. And you didn't even have to buttress your opinion by telling me about 37 yrs of observation and experience. Your one statement NOW said it all."You have seen way more youngsters than older farts take a serious plunge for the working girls etc etc." Thats a perspective I can apply.
I don't have a problem with that statement. In fact, I can relate to that as well from my own observations and experiences. So there are three things you could take into consideration here which illustrates what I was conveying to you. One, you don't completely disagree with me like you assumed. Two, your new statement is not a fallacious conclusion / generalization like your initial statement. And Third, when you claimed you disagreed, you left me puzzled and with the task of trying to apply a statement that can't support itself, because there were no reasons there to draw from.
Now Tom don't take this as anybodies panties being in a bunch. What I'm saying can be construed as passing on a little wisdom. An older guy should be or could appreciate that without charging it to panties being in a bunch. But it also has been said, one can't teach an old dog new tricks. I have never fully adopted that saying when applied to people. Not every old dude is stubborn and unwilling to accept new information. BTW, my buddy was new to mongering in Sosua, the DR. Him being older did not help him in those incidents. And like I said earlier, there is no telling what other mistakes or errors in judgement he made when he was with any chicas.
One last question Tom. In all of your observations and experience, have you seen any younger dudes that did have a fucking clue? I mean any? You know where I'm going with this, dont you?
How far was the drive one way?It was about 35 minutes. It was Saturday night, about 7pm. There was virtually no congestion or heavy traffic on Route 1 leaving Santiago. When there is traffic / congestion you can add anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes to that time. It also depends on where in Santiago you are starting from. We were quite close to the monument, so it was a straight shot on the highway.
She must be an amazing fuck LOL.
You missed the entire purpose of the video. Apparently there ARE some guys that think "he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money". If you have hung around ISG for any length of time you can't help but come across some of these (horror) stories (like the guy who married a well-known pro (Daniela) and had his wedding in Classicos).
Your assessment of the video is not in alignment with the (overwhelmingly positive) comments left by guys who have watched the video.
Photos courtesy of Orgasmico:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1274614&viewfull=1#post1274614
Video Model Daniela:
http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo
I don't have the link to the suicide letter One monger sent her, LOL. I think this was something only us old heads were aware of and discussed behind the scenes.
No surprise at all Wrx. I went out with a girl in Santiago before and when it came time to take her home she did not know how to get to her house. After so much time I got fed up and pulled over and flagged down a taxi and gave her 300 pesos to get home. Total airhead.
Driving isn't a problem. When I first met my girl I drove her back to Higuey from Santo Domingo. I didn't have shit else to do and I always wanted to see Higuey. I ended up spending the night at her crib and with her family treating me like a king the rest is history.This woman has an aunt that lives in Santiago, but as far as knowing her way around. Street names, turns to take? She was clueless. Earlier before we got to the Supermercado she actually pointed to where she catches the bus. But after we left the store I wasnt sure of getting my bearings straight. Plus she had groceries, and I thought it would be better for her if I drove her. Ideally, I would have preferred her taking the bus, so I could easily steer towards going home. However, we had enjoyed each others company up to that point, so it wasnt a difficult decision to go against my preference to drop her off at the bus.
She must be an amazing fuck LOL.She was at the beach yesterday, hanging around#64. She looked like she put on some weight. In fact, it's possible she may be pregnant again because I saw a little pouch in front. What I notice though, when she is at the beach she looks Plain Jane. But when she heads out to Rumba, she makes a 180 degree transformation. The pants are tight, the heels are sexy, make up and hair are all in place.
Good report bro. Although I'm surprised you had the balls to be driving at night! I've rode in a cab from Blackbeard's to Sousa once and that road seemed very treacherous.I do not think it is a good idea to drive the route from Santiago to Puerto Plata at night. It is very dangerous. There are not any or enough reflectors on the road or guard rails IMO. And definitely lacking in lights along the route. You got motos and cars on the road with you, no headlights and / or no taillights. People and animals walking on the side of the road, crossing the road. Major potholes, flood basins all over the place. In the day it is better, but at night it's worse and not a good idea. For me the trip between PP and Sosua is a welcome relief after going through Santiago to PP. When it comes to taking a taxi from STI to Sosua at night, I dont know how enough guys take that risk? Especially with a potentially Presidente induced and overly tired taxi driver?
I think that is key. You have an apartment, so that is a game changer. More privacy, a couch to sit on (and not a wooden stool like at Terra Linda) , a stove, etc. I could not bee cooped up in a hotel room for a week in Sosua. The area surrounding the strip is so small that everyone (the hustlers, change guys, and of course the chicas) know your business. They know what day you arrived, which chica (s) you have banged, where you go to eat, etc. Plus, if you are staying at a place like New Garden, you've got all the guys hanging around outside their rooms hawking every chica that you bring through there.
The long short of it is that you've got an apartment, rental car, and established outside (of Sosua) connections. I would not be bored with those options. But I would be with seeing the same group of chicas day in and day out, dealing with the same hustlers day in and day out, eating the same restaurant or hotel food, and being confined to one block (the strip).Understood too bro. But even before having an apartment I was never bored. I had movies downloaded on my external harddrive to watch on TV,laptop or ipad. I walked around a lot to learn the area and for exercise. I rented cars if I wanted to explore other places. I went to Cabarete, even to Blackbeards for lunch, and search for apartments. I went to a restaurant on the mountain on the way to Moca. Did that based on a recommendation from a guy I met on the beach. Drove east to Las Terrenas,Samana. Drove the same route to get to SD. So, I never allowed myself to be confined to one block, the strip or my hotel.
As far as my established connections outside of Sosua, I basically put in the effort to get them. The time spent in Sosua I took the time to establish friendships and bonds with other guys and especially expats. Information I later used to get to where I am today. All of that effort made my time in Sosua and the DR more enjoyable, productive and a learning growing experience. So I wished more guys would consider these things before they suggest to others that one can only tolerate Sosua for a few days or a week concentrating mostly on the strip and dealing with chicas. Sosua or vacationing in the DR can be more rewarding or fullfilling if one were to put more effort into it. After all, it's one of the best places in the world as far as CCCC. (cost, convenience, climate and of course chicas ). All the things I did before having an apartment.
In all of your observations and experience, have you seen any younger dudes that did have a fucking clue?Sure, I saw a few in my time. Judging by your trip reports, I would say you have a clue.
"Sometimes when some guys get older they just arent as sharp as they once was."
That was the statement I was responding to and I disagreed with that comment. And then you disagreed to my comment; so be it.
I refuse to fill up the "Sosua Reports" thread with agreements with no ending, thus, YOU WIN!
Keep up the trip reports, I enjoy reading them.
Before arriving here last week I spent about three weeks beforehand chatting with a 26 year old who lives in Puerto Plata on the dating site. She has a six year old daughter and works in a pizza parlor six days a week and makes approximately 2,200 Pesos a week. We seemed to be able to communicate well in writing and I proposed a sleepover at my hotel upon meeting if we both felt inclined to do so. I met her at the Taxi stand in Sosua last week and when she showed up she was wearing high heels, dress pants / blouse, Christin Dior sun-glasses, a Gucci handbag, earrings, rings, necklaces, etc. All a bunch of phony stuff. It was though she was coming to meet Bill Gates! She was also wearing one of those knitted caps a lot of these girls wear here to protect their hair.
Before taking her to the Hotel we walked into town and stopped at Baileys to have some beverages and talk. I wanted to size this one up before proceeding further. She already knew what would be on the agenda in the room and that she would be receiving some money. She was attractive enough but I had some difficulty communicating with her verbally. I hadn't experienced anything quite this difficult with the three other dating site girls I'm seeing and it was a struggle to understand her let alone her understanding me. I had something similar to this with another one of the girls but got beyond it. I told her that I didn't want any misunderstandings if she came to the room and that she could leave at anytime if she felt uncomfortable and that I would give her a weeks pay for the night. I was concerned about being able to communicate with this one but thought what the hell, she might turn out to be a wild nympho which would be fine with me. When we got to the room she didn't want to take off that goofy hat of hers which she finally did. She had beautiful hair that I wanted to look at which was the truth. One thing led to another in the room, the clothes came off and she was a great kisser which she initiated, however the sex wasn't bad but wasn't off the charts either. We had dinner in the room and spent six hours together and where really struggling to communicate. Something came up about maybe she should go, etc. And I decided to cut my losses and told her I was really tired and that if she wanted to leave she could. While walking her to the Taxi stand she asked me why I wasn't content with her. I told her it basically was a communication issue. She appreciated me being honest with her and we parted on a friendly basis. I subsequently received some E-mails from her and she said she was disappointed that she wouldn't be spending any more time with me. I explained to her that if I was going to spend time with anyone we would need to be able to communicate if not verbally then non-verbally. She told me in one E-mail that she had never met anyone like this before and it was all new to her. I told her that there was nothing wrong with her and that the problem was on my end regarding the language. She said she would never try meeting someone again like this and I encouraged her to try to meet someone who understands more Spanish than me and to try to learn some English. She appreciated this and thanked me for being so kind and understanding with all the E-mails, etc. This is one very honest and sincere woman. What a breath of fresh air and I do feel sad for her. Oh well, tonight I have one of my dating site girls from my last trip coming over for a sleepover. I had some difficulty communicating with this one as well at first but after hitting it off sexually we have been able to communicate just fine.
I'm still experimenting with these Haitians and won't be out on the Strip the next couple of nights as I have some Dominican Dating Site girls coming over for sleepovers and I eat these girls pussies!I should have known if you'll attack a big wave you 'll eat a little pussy. Mr Gogo almost had me rationalizing the tongue roulette game. LOL
Surfer 500, reading your report made me think about my own on-line internet dating exploits. I haven't been back to the DR for over 2 years, coming back though hopefully in a couple of weeks. In the meantime I have accumulated around 70 phone numbers of some pretty gorgeous ladies from Dominican cupid, Badoo etc. However I am a bit dubious as to their motives to meet me and give me their numbers so easily, as I have never straight out asked them for sex or anything so direct. On top of that I am myself ambiguous as to my own motives, ie if one who was gorgeous etc really ONLY wanted a serious boyfriend etc, then I would take that seriously. But who to trust? It is a difficult thing to negotiate, and after having been to the DR twice, and as a guy in his mid 40's who has mongered all over the world and speaks pretty good spanish, I still do not really understand this country or it's people.
Anyway, I found a solution to this problem, not something I am exactly proud of. I set up a fake account on Badoo, using a couple of photo's of a random reasonably good looking guy I found online, and asked many of the same women I liked from my own correspondence (still following?) more upfront questions, to see their response, such as would you be interested to have make love / have sex with me, what present would you like for this etc. One girl said she wanted a Samsung Galaxy. When I said I would prefer to give her cash she asked for 1500 pesos! That is one cheap Samsung Galaxy! Some girls I thought were 'Good' girls gave me a price for sex in 10 seconds, others that I suspected were the 'Easy lays', refused my proposals and said they were not interested and were looking for a boyfriend / serious relationship etc. Hardly any were offended.
So now my head will be clearer when I phone these ladies, I know which ones I can shag for cash, and those who may be potential girlfriends. It's not something I've ever done before. I am usually too honest for my own good, but it has been a worthwhile exercise. So now, instead of worrying that I may say the wrong thing online and not get a chicks phone number, I am now more confident and direct, and usually get their numbers. I don't waste time having long internet conversations with them either. A couple of chicks I REALLY want to shag though, have given the 'fake' me their numbers and given a price for sex, but not replied at all to the 'real' me. So not sure what I will do for them, maybe phone them up and say the 'Fake' me gave me their number etc, so not sure how that will work out!
SavePros321
02-11-14, 03:45
So now my head will be clearer when I phone these ladies, I know which ones I can shag for cash, and those who may be potential girlfriends. It's not something I've ever done before. I am usually too honest for my own good, but it has been a worthwhile exercise. So now, instead of worrying that I may say the wrong thing online and not get a chicks phone number, I am now more confident and direct, and usually get their numbers. I don't waste time having long internet conversations with them either. A couple of chicks I REALLY want to shag though, have given the 'fake' me their numbers and given a price for sex, but not replied at all to the 'real' me. So not sure what I will do for them, maybe phone them up and say the 'Fake' me gave me their number etc, so not sure how that will work out!The flip side is that the person you are chatting with may also be a fake to begin with. Can't tell you how many times I have run into this on sites like Dominican Cupid. The profiles with one photo of the chica are usually the easiest (fakes) to spot.
What I sometimes do is ask them for their Whatsapp number, then add them to my whatsapp and lie in wait. What I am looking for is what kind of photos come across her whatsapp profile. Chicas who are active on whatsapp usually change their photos every few days. Recently I have run across chicas whose whatsapp photos were different than what they presented on Dominican Cupid. And of course, no photo (in their whatsapp profile) , no chat.
The only real way to tell if the person you are chatting with is actually the person in the photos is to get them on webcam via Skype or something. But since most chicas do not have webcams...
Gotta be real careful with this online stuff. You can end up divulging too much info (when you are arriving, where you are staying, where to meet up with you at, your Dominican cell number) inadvertently. Just think if you tell a (fake) chica too meet up with you on the Malecon. 5 different people who now know what you look like could have passed by profiling you while you are standing there waiting for the (fake) "chica from the online photos" to show up.
The flip side is that the person you are chatting with may also be a fake to begin with. Can't tell you how many times I have run into this on sites like Dominican Cupid. The profiles with one photo of the chica are usually the easiest (fakes) to spot.
What I sometimes do is ask them for their Whatsapp number, then add them to my whatsapp and lie in wait. What I am looking for is what kind of photos come across her whatsapp profile. Chicas who are active on whatsapp usually change their photos every few days. Recently I have run across chicas whose whatsapp photos were differnt than what they presented on Dominican Cupid. And of course, no photo (in their whatsapp profile) , no chat.
The only real way to tell if the person you are chatting with is actually the person in the photos is to get them on webcam via Skype or something. But since most chicas do not have webcams.I appreciate your advice and see your point to an extent. Many have given me their facebook pages though, where I've seen load of photo's of them, their families and lives etc. Believe it or not I don't have whatsapp on my phone, many of them have given me their whatsapp number, which is also their phone number too I guess? Anyway, whats the worst that can happen? I will meet a chick in a bar, who isn't who they said they were, and I'll leave. I certainly won't arrange to meet them at my place on a first date! But I won't be deceiving anyone. Anybody I arrange to meet, I'll do through my real profile and my photo etc, the purpose of the fake account was just to ask them some screening questions and not to worry about the replies I got, as I didn't 'burn' any potential action that way, if they didn't like my questions. I now know their real objectives better too. I'm also pretty good at knowing real and fake photo's and profiles, and I don't tend to go for the more barbie types, who are more prone to have fakes anyway. If something looks too good to be true, it usually is!
SavePros321
02-11-14, 04:07
I appreciate your advice and see your point to an extent. Many have given me their facebook pages though, where I've seen load of photo's of them, their families and lives etc. Believe it or not I don't have whatsapp on my phone, many of them have given me their whatsapp number, which is also their phone number too I guess?I wrote about this in the SD forum a while back. Facebook is the second step in what I like to call the "two-step verification process". It serves as a second form of verification for the very same reasons you listed.
Tempoecorto
02-11-14, 05:14
and found a thin white chick who I was thinking of going with until she told me she had three kids. Besides sticking my dick into toilet washed pussies I didn't want to go with a girl that potentially might be very loose.Three kids or ten, it does not matter. Apparently, C-section is widely practiced in the D. R. If it were the US, I would have hazarded that the surgeons make more money with such procedures the reason why it is popular. Not so sure about the reason in the DR. Well so next time, you would not have to discard an option because of motherhood.
Mr Enternational
02-11-14, 05:24
Anyway, I found a solution to this problem, not something I am exactly proud of. I set up a fake account on Badoo, using a couple of photo's of a random reasonably good looking guy I found online, and asked many of the same women I liked from my own correspondence (still following?) more upfront questions, to see their response, such as would you be interested to have make love / have sex with me, what present would you like for this etc. A couple of chicks I REALLY want to shag though, have given the 'fake' me their numbers and given a price for sex, but not replied at all to the 'real' me.Seems like your experiment turned out pretty good Coupe. Maybe some girls liked the fake you, but didn't like the real you. Everybody is not going to like everybody. You can't fuck all of them anyway.
I've never had a problem with meeting a chick and she had not been who she said. And I don't have any type of verification process in place. Just like you I get on and tell them I will be in DR in a couple of days and ask for their phone number. Then when I get there I send them a text or whatsapp or call or whatever and make arrangements to meet in person.
I just arrived in the Philippines and I did the same thing on an international site. I changed my location to Manila the day before I came then hit up a bunch of chicks. One is on her way to meet me right now. You have to figure that more fucking guys than you can imagine are hitting these girls up daily. You want to be the outlier. By that I mean you want to be the one that sticks out because you are either in country or will be in country in a couple of days. Otherwise half the time they will just think you are full of shit like most of the other guys that email them wasting their time.
Great report to Surfer as well. It appears you are making some memories down there.
Anyway, I found a solution to this problem, not something I am exactly proud of. I set up a fake account on Badoo, using a couple of photo's of a random reasonably good looking guy I found online, and asked many of the same women I liked from my own correspondence (still following?) more upfront questions, to see their response, such as would you be interested to have make love / have sex with me, what present would you like for this etc. One girl said she wanted a Samsung Galaxy. When I said I would prefer to give her cash she asked for 1500 pesos! That is one cheap Samsung Galaxy! Some girls I thought were 'Good' girls gave me a price for sex in 10 seconds, others that I suspected were the 'Easy lays', refused my proposals and said they were not interested and were looking for a boyfriend / serious relationship etc. Hardly any were offended.
Wow, I never thought of something like this. I'm curious to know what kind of work your in? Anyway I don't think you need to go to this extreme vetting the girls on the dating site. I have been very direct and upfront with the girls and my vetting process which takes time is to correspond a while, pose a hypothetical situation being together for a night and inform them I can help them out with some money. Unfortunately I am not here that often and since my time is limited I have to resort to this as I only have so many days. If I lived here my approach would be totally different. In regards to the "money issue" with these girls, it has been my experience if they can't tell you what they want than you should make an offer or move on to the next one. Also, the best girls I have met have been those who have real jobs. I'm an "older guy" so I'm not looking for the hot 20 somethings but do have a cute 23 year old in my stable. Last night I had a 29 year old divorcee I met on my last trip come for the night and she jumped me when she arrived. Tonight I have a 29 year old hard body who I met on my last trip with no kids that I adore coming over and plan on spending several days with her over the next two weeks and tomorrow I have the cute 23 year old coming over. The two 29 year old girls I have love to be romanced and besides being in it for the money their also into pleasure versus the majority of the girls on the Strip. I'm still looking to fill the stable up with some new girls but the only problem is going to be managing my leche. If your a reasonably good looking guy in shape and speak Spanish you have probably already been flooded with hundreds of "interested messages" on the dating site and should do well. As previously mentioned by others don't divulge to much and interview them in person before taking them to your hotel. I had one on my last trip that didn't look like her photo's so I gave her a little money to go away.
Three kids or ten, it does not matter. Apparently, C-section is widely practiced in the D. R. If it were the US, I would have hazarded that the surgeons make more money with such procedures the reason why it is popular. Not so sure about the reason in the DR. Well so next time, you would not have to discard an option because of motherhood.It's not a matter of motherhood. I have been with lots of girls here that have not had C-sections and the ones with three or more kids have typically been a bit loose. I also don't ask the girls beforehand if they have had a C-Section as I might get slapped for that one.
Anyway, I found a solution to this problem, not something I am exactly proud of. I set up a fake account on Badoo, using a couple of photo's of a random reasonably good looking guy I found online, and asked many of the same women I liked from my own correspondence (still following?) more upfront questions, to see their response, such as would you be interested to have make love / have sex with me, what present would you like for this etc. One girl said she wanted a Samsung Galaxy. When I said I would prefer to give her cash she asked for 1500 pesos! That is one cheap Samsung Galaxy! Some girls I thought were 'Good' girls gave me a price for sex in 10 seconds, others that I suspected were the 'Easy lays', refused my proposals and said they were not interested and were looking for a boyfriend / serious relationship etc. Hardly any were offended.
So now my head will be clearer when I phone these ladies, I know which ones I can shag for cash, and those who may be potential girlfriends. It's not something I've ever done before. I am usually too honest for my own good, but it has been a worthwhile exercise. So now, instead of worrying that I may say the wrong thing online and not get a chicks phone number, I am now more confident and direct, and usually get their numbers. I don't waste time having long internet conversations with them either. A couple of chicks I REALLY want to shag though, have given the 'fake' me their numbers and given a price for sex, but not replied at all to the 'real' me. So not sure what I will do for them, maybe phone them up and say the 'Fake' me gave me their number etc, so not sure how that will work out!This something I have did before trying to get a few girls to slip on my space back in the days. Its very affective. One must asked himself "what do I really want". Potential novias are good if you like Mr. E and myself visiting the DR very regularly or Charles and Fannie who live there. If you visit once, twice or 3 times and year then why would you need a novia. (that's not directed at you) I recalled a guy posting a while back bragging about this encounter with a non pro. In this report he said now I have a novia in the DR. He also said he wasn't plan on going back no time soon. What good did this do for the chica whom was looking for more than a fuck. If she was sincere you just corrupted a possible good girl! Or if she didn't give you any sex after you wine & dine, took her shopping for the family, spent gas or cab money driving hours in her company and wasting your time corrupting your pockets on a 3 to 5 day vaction. Not seeing a novia for months but she is showing loyalty to you (so you feel) by faithfully keeping in contact will almost compel you to that WU line at Walmart. A woman not looking for a little money but waiting for a novio may be looking for a lot more. What can you give her in living in the US besides a little money and little time. MORE MONEY MORE MONEY MORE MONEY! She is a woman in a country were woman have a lot lesser but need or want just as much as the other women. Once you spend your hard earn money in that Wally World line- now you are going to stress yourself about is really she being loyal or playing you- giving that young hot tight pussy to someone else? If you think she is loyal (its possible) that usually lead to more trips to Wally World because she needs Help and your are not there. Its in our nature to protect our woman. Loyal cost and you can't pay her with time because you are in the US. OlKool drop game when he said stick to semi to pros and don't care who she is fucking once you leave. Establish firmly- I coming to the DR, I want to spend time with you and I am going to lookout for you before I leave if our chemistry is good. You have set the tone for the GFE! DR women are use to be ruled with a firm hand by there DR male counterparts. They love an unsure and weak man because he is an easy target to use (unlike DR men). Chica respect authority as long you respect them and they are getting something out the ordeal. Wrx said in a nut shell recently when he met a new chica. He quickly established the ground rules saying he don't care about her boyfriend or how she does her thing". Don't try bullshit on me and we can keep things 100. I recall smooth sailing.
For the new guy's reading these boards trying to make a decision about going to the DR. Don't be bothered with anything. If preparing for a trip becomes to much like a job then just say fuck it and quit looking. Almost all my plans on my first trips were for nothing they all went out the window as soon as I got there. I have found for me it is best to just go and let things happen the way there going to. Anyone that goes to DR will start noticing the women being more friendly as soon as they hit the ground and usually on the plane. Make it to Sosua and it is a no brainer for any man alive pussy is waiting 24-7 for cheap. All jokes aside Sosua is for all men no matter what situation life has put you in for example if you are in a wheel chair no problem or if you have had a arm , leg, hand, fingers, toes, noise whatever cut off it does not matter here. This is a place where all men can go and have what they have always really wanted.
Grandnash84
02-13-14, 09:20
Late report for the super bowl. Arrived in sd for two days then took the metro to Sosua. Stayed at the victorian house. Pretty nice hotel for $65. My boy had a jr suite and he found a mouse in his room. I saw the biggest roach in the hallway in front of my room. I kicked it and it layed in the hallway for two days before the maids took it I assume LOL. The maid did clean the room everyday and extra towls were no problem. Always hot water, fridge, ac, cable wifi and killer view. The internet and tv went out when it rain and it rained a lot superbowl weekend. The victorian does have a real nice view so not bad for $65, did not find any animals or insects in my room. Didn't eat at the resturant there.
This was the first time in a while that I saw a lot of new faces. Usually see the same faces, saw those too, but a lot of new ones. This was my 3rd superbowl in row and as afar as the talent, prob the weakest out of all of them. Got pickpocted in dlatin the first night meet this other dude that happened to him on sat night. From every night then on I wore jeans which wasent bad because it rained a lot and not that hot at night. Thrusday and Friday night were packed at rumba and dlatin. A lot of talent walking around. Sat and sun not so much. The usual happend at 11pm when the crowd shifted from rumba to dlatin. At 2 in the moring sat and sun night you could actually walk the dance floor without bumping into somebody. Never say Dlatin not pack at 2am especially during superbowl weekend. I guess a lot of dudes grabbed their chicas and went in ealry. And it was so much rain probably killed the vibe. Classicos opened for one night, it was dead. Got to the beach fri, sat, and sun and arrived around 2-3pm all days. Not that much talent walking around. Pretty surprised. Sunday had the most girls walking around.
Being the last two superbowls I didn't see any price change from a normal weekend, I thought it would be the same. Seems like the going rate is 2. 5k pesos st. Didn't do tln and never asked but assume 4k range. In daytime could get 1. 5k-2k but you have to spit some game in Spanish for 1.5k. Maybe I was quoted so much only because I went for 7. 5-8's. The uglier ones might have been cheaper. BBBJ was never a question, always the standard. Not so much the last two times I've been to sosua. In dec I got my first refusal for BBBJ! Guess its changeinh but no problem ever finding a chica that will do it. Too many girls out there.
I'm writing this from someone whos been going to Sosua for 3 years. Not a long time compared to some but a enough to see the changes. My adivce for first timers, don't take our bitching about how sosua has chaged, its going down hill, etc. For your first couple of times you will have a blast and not even notice some of the things people are complaing about.
Voldemorts
02-13-14, 17:07
Are the Sosua girls greek friendly? I love arses. Any idea how much extra they'd charge?
Going in 10 sleeps!
Chris Long
02-13-14, 18:32
Late report for the super bowl. Arrived in sd for two days then took the metro to sosua. Stayed at the victorian house. Pretty nice hotel for $65. My boy had a jr suite and he found a mouse in his room. I saw the biggest roach in the hallway in front of my room. I kicked it and it layed in the hallway for two days before the maids took it I assume LOL. The maid did clean the room everyday and extra towls were no problem. Always hot water, fridge, ac, cable wifi and killer view. The internet and tv went out when it rain and it rained a lot superbowl weekend. The victorian does have a real nice view so not bad for $65, did not find any animals or insects in my room. Didn't eat at the resturant there.
This was the first time in a while that I saw a lot of new faces. Usually see the same faces, saw those too, but a lot of new ones. This was my 3rd superbowl in row and as afar as the talent, prob the weakest out of all of them. Got pickpocted in dlatin the first night meet this other dude that happened to him on sat night. From every night then on I wore jeans which wasent bad because it rained a lot and not that hot at night. Thrusday and Friday night were packed at rumba and dlatin. A lot of talent walking around. Sat and sun not so much..Is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua.
These reports of pickpocketing in D'Latinos, high prices and poor attitudes are becoming all to common and my experience from my November, December and January trips. I too had a chica try to pick pocket me in December in D'Latinos but I caught her with her hand in my pocket before she could take any money out. Started to pull her by her arm to security at the front door but she resisted, figuring it probably wasnt a good ideal to physicaly pull the chica agenst her will I let her go and went and got security. On my way back with security every chica in the place wanted to stand in front of me and do the rump shake to buy the other chica time to get away. Had a few chicas want to give a CBJ all of whom got dismissed and generally had a larg number of chicas give poor performances and rushed services in the bed room. My wingman had a chica steal his watch and other things out of his room and then spit on him. Had many try to get 2000p out of me for short time and had to let many go because they would not come down to 1500p. So is Sosua becoming to over run with hardcore girls with poor attitudes and bad service.
Last week when I was in Boca Chica I found many girls who gave me great service never paid more than 1000p to 1500p for every girl all of whom agreed quite quickly to this price and generally got really good service out of almost every girl I was with. DATY and BBBJ were readily available and quite frankly BBFS was quite easy to get as well. My wing man took the hot little receptionist from our hotel to his fourth floor balcony over looking the beach for a little chupa and yes he did letch in Boca Chica. The strip along Duarte was alive and fun every night with what I considered to be very attractive girls. The Piano bar was filled and lots of fun every night with what I thought were extreemly attractive girls. Disco El Batey was similar in almost every regard to D'Latinos Hot women easy to pick up and lots of fun. I only had two sessions that I was disapointed in and both girls were Sosua vets who had worked Rumba and D'Latinos the rest of the girls who at least claimed to have never been to Sosua all gave me great service. Boca Chica is almost exclusively an Italian vacation / monger destination not a lot of Americans or other nationalities there but they were all pretty friendly and easy to get along with. The hustlers and touts could be quite pesky at times but no worse than Sosua beach or other monger destinations through out the world.
So is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua?
Everyones opinion and taste in women are a little different but in my opinion the women in Boca Chica were equal to what you can find in Sosua. Below are a few photos of some Boca Chica Chicas.
Chris
Are the Sosua girls greek friendly? I love arses. Any idea how much extra they'd charge?
Going in 10 sleeps!You can get any thing you want in Sosua. Different girls different price's. Read these reports as much as you can before you leave on your trip. You do have to wade through a lot of shit to find what your looking for but it will be worth your time.
Chris Long
02-13-14, 19:03
Are the Sosua girls greek friendly? I love arses. Any idea how much extra they'd charge?
Going in 10 sleeps!Not that common in Sosua especially if its your first time being with the chica, but is around Grace and Claribel are two names that come to mind. Generaly they will want 500p to 1000p if its your first time or two together. If the two of you have some history together and theres chemistry between the two of you then it will become the standard M O in your sessions and no extra fee.
Would post some more descriptive photos of Grace and Claribel but unfortunately there are to many pecker heads on here who have to compensate for their physical short coming by running to the chicas and telling them every time their pictures appear on a site like this.
Chris
SavePros321
02-13-14, 19:16
Is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua.Have they finally managed to run off all of the pimps hanging around Boca Chica?
Originally Posted by Jooks [View Original Post]
The day before, I went to Boca Chica. It's been a long time since I was there. 15 years probably. Things didn't seem to change much though, except there was no place to relax and stay by the ocean without being hassled to rent a chair and a million other things. I tell ya, I don't mind the touts so much and expected it. I know how to handle them. But all the women seem to work for pimps and there didn't seem to be any freelancers. Not that there were many women there when I was there, a rainy Wednesday.
I ended up talking to several of the pimps or touts or whatever you want to call them and we had interesting conversations. I kept saying I didn't want a chica mainly because I didn't see any women I was remotely interested in. But I took the bait when a tout told me he had exactly what I was looking for, young, blanco and pretty. However, I almost vomited when he introduced me. He said she was 16 but she didn't even look that old. While I admit to being attracted, this is something I draw the line at. I honestly felt sorry for her. I immediately headed back to Santo Domingo.
Originally Posted by Cocr Brotheler [View Original Post]
Boca chica is fun but yes is like the wild west (TONS of touts every where). Each of the 3 chicas I've had in the past 24 hrs. I had to start the negotiations and then ask them what is the normal price for f. S. To get their starting point to the negotiation. They would not start negotiations saying whatever you want to pay afterwards (Really?). Very glad I did negot. Up front since one (a fatter 31 why / o street puta) who thought she worth (3K) twice what I would pay. Also she mentioned something about all these amigos she has during the negotiations kinda like a threat or something. The youngest (24 why / o) I saw eye to eye on (wouldn; t have to negot.) and the media (29 why / o) we were pretty close so it wouldn't be too much a surprise if I waited until after.
So anyways there will always be one that could cause some stress so I like to always negot. Up front.
I have the option to stay in B. C. 2 more days but really liked SDO and all the casa offerings. I am after all a Brotheler!
Grandnash84
02-13-14, 19:43
Is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua.
These reports of pickpocketing in D'Latinos, high prices and poor attitudes are becoming all to common and my experience from my November, December and January trips. I too had a chica try to pick pocket me in December in D'Latinos but I caught her with her hand in my pocket before she could take any money out. Started to pull her by her arm to security at the front door but she resisted, figuring it probably wasnt a good ideal to physicaly pull the chica agenst her will I let her go and went and got security. On my way back with security every chica in the place wanted to stand in front of me and do the rump shake to buy the other chica time to get away. Had a few chicas want to give a CBJ all of whom got dismissed and generally had a larg number of chicas give poor performances and rushed services in the bed room. My wingman had a chica steal his watch and other things out of his room and then spit on him. Had many try to get 2000p out of me for short time and had to let many go because they would not come down to 1500p. So is Sosua becoming to over run with hardcore girls with poor attitudes and bad service.
Last week when I was in Boca Chica I found many girls who gave me great service never paid more than 1000p to 1500p for every girl all of whom agreed quite quickly to this price and generally got really good service out of almost every girl I was with. DATY and BBBJ were readily available and quite frankly BBFS was quite easy to get as well. My wing man took the hot little receptionist from our hotel to his fourth floor balcony over looking the beach for a little chupa and yes he did letch in Boca Chica. The strip along Duarte was alive and fun every night with what I considered to be very attractive girls. The Piano bar was filled and lots of fun every night with what I thought were extreemly attractive girls. Disco El Batey was similar in almost every regard to D'Latinos Hot women easy to pick up and lots of fun. I only had two sessions that I was disapointed in and both girls were Sosua vets who had worked Rumba and D'Latinos the rest of the girls who at least claimed to have never been to Sosua all gave me great service. Boca Chica is almost exclusively an Italian vacation / monger destination not a lot of Americans or other nationalities there but they were all pretty friendly and easy to get along with. The hustlers and touts could be quite pesky at times but no worse than Sosua beach or other monger destinations through out the world.
So is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua?
Everyones opinion and taste in women are a little different but in my opinion the women in Boca Chica were equal to what you can find in Sosua. Below are a few photos of some Boca Chica Chicas.
ChrisIt was kinda of funny because this was my 2nd time getting pickpocketed in dlatin's. And before I got pickpocketed I kept saying to myself if I catch a chica hand in my pocket I'm going to give her a right cross and drag her ass to the police outside. I know there a a lot of horror stories about dealing with chicas, but police will not hesitate to arrest a chica for pick pocketing. You also got to tip the cops and tell them how many days you want her ass in jail. I had to ko a crack head on calle Rosen across from terra kinda about 8 months back. She walked up and tried to rub on me and as soon as I pushed her away I caught her hand in my pockets. So I grabbed her and and twisted it as hard as I could then gave that 50 years old crackhead a right cross and layed her ass out. Walked to dlatin's and told this tout what happened. He told me to tell the cops and have her arrested but you got to give the cop "dinero parra gasolina." Never had a chica steal from my room because I always treat the girls nice but I also chica proof my room everytime before I leave. I would never get into an argument in my room or hotel with a chica, but if I catch one on the street trying to pick pocket me, I'm throwing fists. If it's a crowded place like dlatin's and I catch the girl trying to pickpocket me and I sock her, most likely she going to jail, not me. But in your hotel room with no witness is a different story.
On another note, I can agree with you completely about the prices and services going down hill. My last two tropes were in sept, dec and feb and since then it's been going down hill
Three days with no rain and each day has been hotter than the day before!
Chris Long
02-13-14, 20:12
It was kinda of funny because this was my 2nd time getting pickpocketed in dlatin's. And before I got pickpocketed I kept saying to myself if I catch a chica hand in my pocket I'm going to give her a right cross and drag her ass to the police outside. I know there a a lot of horror stories about dealing with chicas, but police will not hesitate to arrest a chica for pick pocketing. You also got to tip the cops and tell them how many days you want her ass in jail. I had to ko a crack head on calle Rosen across from terra kinda about 8 months back. She walked up and tried to rub on me and as soon as I pushed her away I caught her hand in my pockets. So I grabbed her and and twisted it as hard as I could then gave that 50 years old crackhead a right cross and layed her ass out. Walked to dlatin's and told this tout what happened. He told me to tell the cops and have her arrested but you got to give the cop "dinero parra gasolina." Never had a chica steal from my room because I always treat the girls nice but I also chica proof my room everytime before I leave. I would never get into an argument in my room or hotel with a chica, but if I catch one on the street trying to pick pocket me, I'm throwing fists. If it's a crowded place like dlatin's and I catch the girl trying to pickpocket me and I sock her, most likely she going to jail, not me. But in your hotel room with no witness is a different story.
On another note, I can agree with you completely about the prices and services going down hill. My last two tropes were in sept, dec and feb and since then it's been going down hillI would not advise hitting a chica even if she is pickpocketing you in public. The chica union is very strong and you are the outsider the foreigner they will stick together and lie about what happened. Getting physical with a chica even when she is stealing from you is never a good idea. Turning them into the police and tipping the police to have her arrested is a good ideal but it won't work if you have already hit the girl. If you hit her even though she was stealing from you, you will be the one going to jail. It never pays to get physical with these chicas even when they are in the wrong. I know several mongers who had crazy chicas doing things to them stealing from them hitting them and they got physical with the chica and each one of them ended up in jail, never a good idea to put your hands on a chica in a violent way no matter how wrong she is.
Chris
Nothing personal, but you are demented.
It was kinda of funny because this was my 2nd time getting pickpocketed in dlatin's. And before I got pickpocketed I kept saying to myself if I catch a chica hand in my pocket I'm going to give her a right cross and drag her ass to the police outside. I know there a a lot of horror stories about dealing with chicas, but police will not hesitate to arrest a chica for pick pocketing. You also got to tip the cops and tell them how many days you want her ass in jail. I had to ko a crack head on calle Rosen across from terra kinda about 8 months back. She walked up and tried to rub on me and as soon as I pushed her away I caught her hand in my pockets. So I grabbed her and and twisted it as hard as I could then gave that 50 years old crackhead a right cross and layed her ass out. Walked to dlatin's and told this tout what happened. He told me to tell the cops and have her arrested but you got to give the cop "dinero parra gasolina." Never had a chica steal from my room because I always treat the girls nice but I also chica proof my room everytime before I leave. I would never get into an argument in my room or hotel with a chica, but if I catch one on the street trying to pick pocket me, I'm throwing fists. If it's a crowded place like dlatin's and I catch the girl trying to pickpocket me and I sock her, most likely she going to jail, not me. But in your hotel room with no witness is a different story.
On another note, I can agree with you completely about the prices and services going down hill. My last two tropes were in sept, dec and feb and since then it's been going down hill
Went to Cabarete with 3 friends, one who was leaving the next day. While there 2 dominican women are walking by the Kahuna. I called them over, since they kept looking at us, looking at them. One average size (chica 1) and the other (chica 2) a little pudgy and short. My buddy P (the one leaving tomorrow) is into thick, full figured women, so he went straight for chica 2. I'm just the opposite. I like slimmer women with nice round asses. Don't need big titties, just need nipples and enough titty to fill ones mouth.
At some point we asked the women how old they were. Chica 1 says she was 30. The other claimed to be 28. You can look at chica 1 and see she was older than 30, but then I just assumed it must be in her genes. She was wearing enough makeup, had a decent figure, and a hairstyle that was in like a frizzy fro. It looked good on her.
IMO they were walking the beach hoping to find men looking for women for sex / companionship. It wasnt long before we were ready to leave. The women claimed they were going back to Sabonetta. Looked like they were hoping we were going to drive them there. I took chica 1's number, and tentatively agreed to get together the next day.
Next day comes, and I pick her up from the gas station next to the metro bus station. As usual, I ask if she was hungry. We went to Calle Pizzeria on the main road, but they were closed. I guess she was cool with that because she came up with another recommendation, Bailey's. I don't usually like going to Baileys because I don't like the taxes they add to the bill, and sometimes lackluster service. Nor do I like taking chicas there I don't have a rapport with yet.
We did go to Baileys, but I asked her to order to go, told the waitress the order was to go. Food comes to the table? I insisted the food get wrapped up to go. 900 pesos for a simple shrimp meal and fries? Thats another reason I don't like taking chicas to Baileys or certain restaurants before I am ready to. They will order shit they wouldn't buy themselves.
Several chicas I've been with will come over and eat any leftovers I have. Or I will take them to Rickys dom rest on PC and let them pick out whatever they want. They get a lot of food for good prices. Most chicas are simplistic when it comes to feeding them. But this chick reminded me of going out on dates in the states.
Get her back to my spot. She ate and then gave me a decent pedicure (suppused to be a hairdresser ). This chica was going for the goal. Said she wanted a relationship with me blah blah blah. Said she would spend the night tomorrow night. LOL. The whole time I'm with this chick she is wreaking of cigarette smoke coming out of her lungs, she looks harder in the face now than the other night in Cabarete. Chick now claims she is 37 after I pointed out I didn't believe she was 30. For all I know, she could be in her 40's.
It didn't matter, I would only want to fuck her anyway.
Next night she comes over and this time I take her to Rockys. She orders the same meal she did from Baileys. I guess it's no escaping this chicas taste when somebody else is paying. Let her eat, we left. This chica was a deadfish in bed. We didn't even have sex. I wasnt interested. And kissing her was like kissing a room full of smokers. Moreover, after all of that makeup came off, she really did look rather hard in the face.
Next day, I just told her I can't deal with a woman who smokes. Chick responds by telling me she will quit, and that she really wants us to work. Of course, I know the real deal is, she sees her "meal" ticket slipping away before she got a chance to tap into it sufficiently. I never told her I wanted a relationship or was looking for one. She just assumed a dude would pursue her for one if she acted like that is what she was looking for.
My experience with her was chalked up to just having something different to do than hanging in Sosua.
It was kinda of funny because this was my 2nd time getting pickpocketed in dlatin's. And before I got pickpocketed I kept saying to myself if I catch a chica hand in my pocket I'm going to give her a right cross and drag her ass to the police outside. I know there a a lot of horror stories about dealing with chicas, but police will not hesitate to arrest a chica for pick pocketing. You also got to tip the cops and tell them how many days you want her ass in jail. I had to ko a crack head on calle Rosen across from terra kinda about 8 months back. She walked up and tried to rub on me and as soon as I pushed her away I caught her hand in my pockets. So I grabbed her and and twisted it as hard as I could then gave that 50 years old crackhead a right cross and layed her ass out. Walked to dlatin's and told this tout what happened. He told me to tell the cops and have her arrested but you got to give the cop "dinero parra gasolina." Never had a chica steal from my room because I always treat the girls nice but I also chica proof my room everytime before I leave. I would never get into an argument in my room or hotel with a chica, but if I catch one on the street trying to pick pocket me, I'm throwing fists. If it's a crowded place like dlatin's and I catch the girl trying to pickpocket me and I sock her, most likely she going to jail, not me. But in your hotel room with no witness is a different story.
On another note, I can agree with you completely about the prices and services going down hill. My last two tropes were in sept, dec and feb and since then it's been going down hillWhat exactly is the point of this?
I remember one time that a chica blocked my way on the sidewalk, clung on to me, and seemed to be trying to grab my wallet. I hit her quite hard on the upper arm, so that it hurt my hand, but the purpose was to make her stop what she was doing immediately, not to injure her.
If you hit someone hard in the head or knock them down it is quite possible that you could cause permanent injury or even death if the sequence of events is unfavorable.
If you did this is the US, you would be legally liable for a criminal act and for damages. Possibly in the DR you might get away with it, but it seems plain foolish to test your luck. In any case the reaction is completely disproportionate.
It is better to only go out to chica bars only carrying the cash and valuables that you immediately need, thus practicing a harm reduction strategy from the outset, because the economic damage a pickpocket could do to you would be slight. By keeping the money in two or three different locations on your person and using pockets that are difficult to access, you can further reduce the risk of loss.
I would not advise hitting a chica even if she is pickpocketing you in public. The chica union is very strong and you are the outsider the foreigner they will stick together and lie about what happened. Getting physical with a chica even when she is stealing from you is never a good idea. Turning them into the police and tipping the police to have her arrested is a good ideal but it won't work if you have already hit the girl. If you hit her even though she was stealing from you, you will be the one going to jail. It never pays to get physical with these chicas even when they are in the wrong. I know several mongers who had crazy chicas doing things to them stealing from them hitting them and they got physical with the chica and each one of them ended up in jail, never a good idea to put your hands on a chica in a violent way no matter how wrong she is.
ChrisI was pick pocketed in D'Latin once. I had kept about 800 pesos on my shirt pocket and other money in a hidden inside pocket in my pants. I met 2 girls who I bought drinks. They both wanted to dance. During dancing and rubbing bodies one of them got the balance of the 800 minus what I paid for the drinks. I was little buzzed anyway. We danced for a long time and sat down. They wanted another drink and lo and behold my pocket was empty. There was no way for me to accuse them because I did not catch them red handed. When the waitress came over I reached into my pant inside pocket and got the money. Both girls must have thought about my plan.
Later both of them got very friendly and I took both of them to my room and pounded them nicely making sure all my valuables were locked safe.
There is absolutely no point in accusing anybody or calling the police. You do not know what connections these local girls have and you do not want a knife on your back or locked up on fake charges.
I never carry a wallet in foreign countries. I spread the amount of local currency in different pockets.
Having said that I smacked two Chinese guys who put their hand in my pocket in Shenzhen China. They both ran away. They did not get any money but I got their tongs which they use to put in my pocket and grab.
But I would not smack any girl anywhere. It is better to loose some money rather than get into trouble in a foreign country.
Chris Long
02-14-14, 16:53
I was pick pocketed in D'Latin once. I had kept about 800 pesos on my shirt pocket and other money in a hidden inside pocket in my pants. I met 2 girls who I bought drinks. They both wanted to dance. During dancing and rubbing bodies one of them got the balance of the 800 minus what I paid for the drinks. I was little buzzed anyway. We danced for a long time and sat down. They wanted another drink and lo and behold my pocket was empty. There was no way for me to accuse them because I did not catch them red handed. When the waitress came over I reached into my pant inside pocket and got the money. Both girls must have thought about my plan.
Later both of them got very friendly and I took both of them to my room and pounded them nicely making sure all my valuables were locked safe.
There is absolutely no point in accusing anybody or calling the police. You do not know what connections these local girls have and you do not want a knife on your back or locked up on fake charges.
I never carry a wallet in foreign countries. I spread the amount of local currency in different pockets.
Having said that I smacked two Chinese guys who put their hand in my pocket in Shenzhen China. They both ran away. They did not get any money but I got their tongs which they use to put in my pocket and grab.
But I would not smack any girl anywhere. It is better to loose some money rather than get into trouble in a foreign country.These stories of pickpocketing in D'Latinos are becoming all to common I know it was attempted on me and I caught the girl red handed with her hand in my pocket so she didn't get anything.
So my original question still stands is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua?
Chris
Is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua.
ChrisChris,
I have been to both, but it's been a few years. My wingman and I are headed back in May to Sosua. I've read that Passions and CMP are closed; all the bars are now "glassed in'. Although I have purchased tickets to PP, I'm wondering if BC wouldn't be a better choice. It sounds like you have been to both BC and Sosua recently.
Thoughts?
Charles Pooter
02-14-14, 19:52
I got their tongs.
It takes a bold man to mess with the tongs in China!
Chris Long
02-14-14, 21:00
Chris,
I have been to both, but it's been a few years. My wingman and I are headed back in May to Sosua. I've read that Passions and CMP are closed; all the bars are now "glassed in'. Although I have purchased tickets to PP, I'm wondering if BC wouldn't be a better choice. It sounds like you have been to both BC and Sosua recently.
Thoughts?Yes I have been to both recently. Sosua is still good it's just not what it used to be, the closing of Passions and CMP the glassed in bars which really sucks in my opinion, the proportionality of hard core chicas and the rising trend of chicas pickpocketing you and trying to steal from your room is alarming. When I first started going to Sosua I would almost always meet a sweet little chica on my first or second day and end up having her stay with me in my hotel throughout the rest of my vacation. Now those connections never seem to be there with the chicas I meet and more and more I'm getting a rushed business like service from the chicas I'm meeting. Sosua is still good it sure as hell beats anywhere in the states it's just not as good as it used to be and things seem to be going in the wrong direction. Boca Chica may have had a troubled past and certainly is not paradise but is substantially better than what many would have you believe. Duarte and Pedro Clisante are very similar in many ways Piano bar and Rumba are similar in many ways and D'Latinos and El Batey are also similar in many ways. I was generally finding prices to be a little better in BC 1000p to 1500p compared to Sosua 1500p to 2000p and I was finding services to be generally more 'liberal' in BC. Both places have a lot of similarities However, Sosua seems to be sliding down the scale compared to what is used to be and BC seems to be improving from its poor reputation in the past. BC is overwhelmingly a destination for Italian tourist / mongers which to me is an advantage I like going to destinations that are VFA very few American and enjoy being the unusual or the unique. Sosua is awash with weekend warriors from America and often times I feel I'm just visiting the 51st state Sosua.
You bring up a very good question and one that I have been asking myself lately, do I want to return to Sosua or should I devote more of my time this year to BC. In 2013 I made 9 trips to Sosua this year I intend to devote far more time to Asia than Latin America but will still return to the DR. For me personally I will probably return to BC initially and my next few trips to the DR will be to BC but will eventually return to Sosua.
Chris
Get her back to my spot. She ate and then gave me a decent pedicure (suppused to be a hairdresser ). This chica was going for the goal. Said she wanted a relationship with me blah blah blah. Said she would spend the night tomorrow night. LOL. The whole time I'm with this chick she is wreaking of cigarette smoke coming out of her lungs, she looks harder in the face now than the other night in Cabarete. Chick now claims she is 37 after I pointed out I didn't believe she was 30. For all I know, she could be in her 40's.
It didn't matter, I would only want to fuck her anyway.
Next night she comes over and this time I take her to Rockys. She orders the same meal she did from Baileys. I guess it's no escaping this chicas taste when somebody else is paying. Let her eat, we left. This chica was a deadfish in bed. We didn't even have sex. I wasnt interested. And kissing her was like kissing a room full of smokers. Moreover, after all of that makeup came off, she really did look rather hard in the face.
Next day, I just told her I can't deal with a woman who smokes. Chick responds by telling me she will quit, and that she really wants us to work. Of course, I know the real deal is, she sees her "meal" ticket slipping away before she got a chance to tap into it sufficiently. I never told her I wanted a relationship or was looking for one. She just assumed a dude would pursue her for one if she acted like that is what she was looking for.
My experience with her was chalked up to just having something different to do than hanging in Sosua.Why did you even go with her in the first place if you knew she smoked like a chimney? This chica sounds as disgusting as the Haitain chica who washed her snatch in my toilet!
Daryll Musician
02-15-14, 00:03
Looking forward to coming back to Puerto Plata and Sosua July 4th. I really never post on this board, but I must tell you that I learn quite a bit from you season veterans (even though this will be my 5th time traveling to the area). Anyway, has anybody had a recent encounter with a very light skinned chica that used to work at BB's and frequent Sosua named Yohanna? I think Charles Pooter remembers her from around NYE 2009.
Why did you even go with her in the first place if you knew she smoked like a chimney? This chica sounds as disgusting as the Haitain chica who washed her snatch in my toilet!I thought perhaps if the sex was good, I might be able to deal with the disgust.
BlackLexus
02-15-14, 07:38
Looking forward to coming back to Puerto Plata and Sosua July 4th. I really never post on this board, but I must tell you that I learn quite a bit from you season veterans (even though this will be my 5th time traveling to the area). Anyway, has anybody had a recent encounter with a very light skinned chica that used to work at BB's and frequent Sosua named Yohanna? I think Charles Pooter remembers her from around NYE 2009.DM,
I recently was at BB and found out Yohanna doesn't work there anymore. Supposedly she opened a little shop of her own.
While at Sosua playa yesterday 2 guys I know were sharing theft by chica stories with each other. The older guy had a ring stolen. He came back to his spot with the chica, made drinks, took off his watch and 2 rings then went to shower. When he came back, one of the rings was gone. He got security. According to him, they made this chica empty her pocketbook, searched her hair, pussy and ass for this ring. I assume they did a thorough search, but couldn't find the ring. He assumed she could have swallowed the ring. He never got the ring back even though some local dom who knows the chica said he would help him get it back. That turned out to be a waste of time, and hope.
After sharing his story and admitting it was stupid for not securing his stuff, he indicated a technique that a typical thief will do. He said he learned about it in Cuba. The thief will not exactly walk out with something, but may hide it where they can retrieve it or have someone else come and get it.
For instance, a chica can be in your spot. Have something of yours she intends to steal. Find a window or balcony or some way to toss the item from there. Then later they can go to that spot to pick it up. Or arrange for someone to come and scoop the item up. Meanwhile they stay with you in your spot acting natural, because technically they don't have anything of yours on their person. Thats what kinda happened to the guy at Tradewinds who was robbed at gunpoint. The chica went to the bathroom and tossed the guys keys so the thieves could let themselves in.
But in the case of a petty theft, you end up looking ridiculous or unsure of yourself because you'll never find the stolen item on them / the chica. At that point you might be doubting yourself trying to figure out if it could have been a previous chica, staff at the hotel or that you lost it? Of course certain items may be easier to track when it 1st goes missing. But others might go unnoticed for awhile before one can claim it was stolen. Once it's gone, you got a problem. Even if you are sure it was there 5 minutes ago. You can say it was stolen all you want. But without proof, you might be SOL.
The other dude. He bumped into an ex novia out somewhere. She tried to pickpocket him, but busted her. Turns out, he found out she has been involved with a crew of chicas who pickpocket for a living. And she obviously was trying out her craft on him, but he caught her red handed trying to extract shit from his pocket. For her he would be an easy target to try, because he might let his guard down with her. And also, she might be able to play it off that she was only fooling around. Which is exactly what she said to throw him off to what she was doing.
I was up in D'Latins last night, and I swear I was a little concerned about it happening to me. I didn't have much cash, but I had a phone. So I kept my hands in my pockets on my phone the whole time. It wasnt even crowded. And yet people were starting to swarm the place. I was getting bumped into left and right. Pinched and squeezed on the regular. I can see how easy it may be to get got. It's a thieves paradise. No doubt when out and about, you have to find a way to secure your stuff so nobody can get to it. Even guys with zippered pants can get got.
Most men wear loose fitting pants, instead of skin tight pants. That can make it easy for any good thief to get in there and out in a crowd or where ever. Even outside of the club one can potentially get got. When I was outside D'Latins way before it got crowded inside, I was approached by an unnecessarily friendly young dom dude asking me "Where I'm from?" I wasnt taking any chances of someone else coming up behind me, so I quickly moved on, with him continuing to ask me "Where I'm from?"
Personally I have not put my self in these kind of situations in the DR I learned this shit as a drunk ass kid growing up. For the new guy's looking at going to the DR I have fucked as many women as my dick could handle and have not had to step inside a dance bar for any reason. For the men who are trying to decide between Boca Chica or Sosua I would pick Sosua they are way more ladies and for me the price's have been cheaper. The DR is for every man not just the party guy. No matter how you like it everything relating to having a woman your way is here. The best advice from me and others on this site is to interview the ladies before leaving with them and if you do not know Spanish at the very least she needs to have a good understanding of the price you are willing to pay her and for how long. Don't forget the time starts ticking as soon as the deal is made so waste no time getting down to business.
Why did you even go with her in the first place if you knew she smoked like a chimney? This chica sounds as disgusting as the Haitain chica who washed her snatch in my toilet!This is not unusual in this part of the world. While in Nicaragua a stripper chica did the same thing. My guess water is often NA at homes so toilet bowl water must be utilized at the spur of the moment.
No big deal.
Thanks for all the great posts guys.
My biggest takeaways are to only bring enough cash for drinks (max $50US) and lock-up everything in your room while sober prior to going out.
I thought perhaps if the sex was good, I might be able to deal with the disgust.A friend of mine once went to perform oral sex on his novia and noticed that her pussy smelled of tobacco. She denied cheating. As one would. However she had a close female friend who smoked.
I tend to instinctively put my hands in my pockets in crowded situations, and so far I've avoided being pick pocketed.
Besides the usual overcharges I've only experienced theft twice in the DR. The first, a pair of streetwalkers in Santo Domingo latched on to me, and one tried to steal my wristwatch. Unfortunately for her, my inexpensive time piece only expands to a set size that doesn't slip easily over my big hands. Despite the brazen attempt one still tried to get me to take her back to my hotel room. Yeah, like I'd trust you in my room after you just tried to rob me.
A thief did manage to steal the charger for my electric razor from my backpack while taking the Caribe Tours bus to Sosua. As the two were connected that means they left the more expensive razor behind. What a moron. I've got 3 other compatible chargers back in the States, so no big loss, but still sucks that I can't shave or find a replacement charger in Sosua.
They are no reason for me to down play the potential for one to be stolen from in the DR it happens every second of the day and night somewhere in the country but if I look at the dangers that I have personally noticed it no where near match's some of the other parts of the world I have visited. Since the beginning of time they have been prostitutes and thieves they go hand in hand.
Grandnash84
02-16-14, 07:56
I tend to instinctively put my hands in my pockets in crowded situations, and so far I've avoided being pick pocketed.
Besides the usual overcharges I've only experienced theft twice in the DR. The first, a pair of streetwalkers in Santo Domingo latched on to me, and one tried to steal my wristwatch. Unfortunately for her, my inexpensive time piece only expands to a set size that doesn't slip easily over my big hands. Despite the brazen attempt one still tried to get me to take her back to my hotel room. Yeah, like I'd trust you in my room after you just tried to rob me.
A thief did manage to steal the charger for my electric razor from my backpack while taking the Caribe Tours bus to Sosua. As the two were connected that means they left the more expensive razor behind. What a moron. I've got 3 other compatible chargers back in the States, so no big loss, but still sucks that I can't shave or find a replacement charger in Sosua.How did they steal your charger? Did you get up to use the bathroom?
I am considering resting up a night or two, so I can go to D'Latins and pick out one of those sexy's. Friday night there were a lot of sexy women up in there. Chicas that probably never stepped foot in Rumbas, prior to going to DL. I'm sure most nights a bunch of sexy talent rolls of in there. Question though. Are guys finding that the most attractive chicas in D'Latins are consistently asking for 3000 and above even for ST?
I was approached by a Haitian chica close to Rumba, and later saw her at D'Latins. From a distance, her makeup, hair do, red dress and heels, she looked attractive. Up close she was still doable, but not for 3000 which she quoted me for ST, and 4000 for TLN.
I would figure a chica in D'Latins could get at least 2, 000 & up for ST if she is really attractive? But 3000? Usually I would tell a chica what I will pay her for ST if I want them. Let them take it or leave. But if I'm not really interested but just curious to what they were expecting I'll ask just to see what they were expecting. This Haitian chica was tracking me, because I saw how she moved to get next to me when I was near Rumba, and was right on top of me the moment I stepped out of D'Latins. Later she approached me again (I left the area and came back) in order to negotiate since I didn't take her after her 3000/4000 price.
I could assume, because I asked her for her price, that that is the reason for her coming up with 3000/4000. But I'm wondering if that is what many of the 7, 8 9's up in D'Latins are expecting as well?
The girls always start by asking for the moon. Sometimes newbies pony up. 3000 pesos is 2 weeks salary for most working girls in the DR. I met Haile Barry at Rumbas asking for 3k and she was firm. I saw her 3 hours later begging for 1k. There is always way more women then guys buying. Most girls go home with no sales so they are motivated.
QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1532755]I am considering resting up a night or two, so I can go to D'Latins and pick out one of those sexy's. Friday night there were a lot of sexy women up in there. Chicas that probably never stepped foot in Rumbas, prior to going to DL. I'm sure most nights a bunch of sexy talent rolls of in there. Question though. Are guys finding that the most attractive chicas in D'Latins are consistently asking for 3000 and above even for ST?
SavePros321
02-16-14, 15:36
I am considering resting up a night or two, so I can go to D'Latins and pick out one of those sexy's. Friday night there were a lot of sexy women up in there. Chicas that probably never stepped foot in Rumbas, prior to going to DL. I'm sure most nights a bunch of sexy talent rolls of in there. Question though. Are guys finding that the most attractive chicas in D'Latins are consistently asking for 3000 and above even for ST?
I was approached by a Haitian chica close to Rumba, and later saw her at D'Latins. From a distance, her makeup, hair do, red dress and heels, she looked attractive. Up close she was still doable, but not for 3000 which she quoted me for ST, and 4000 for TLN.
I would figure a chica in D'Latins could get at least 2, 000 & up for ST if she is really attractive? But 3000? Usually I would tell a chica what I will pay her for ST if I want them. Let them take it or leave. But if I'm not really interested but just curious to what they were expecting I'll ask just to see what they were expecting. This Haitian chica was tracking me, because I saw how she moved to get next to me when I was near Rumba, and was right on top of me the moment I stepped out of D'Latins. Later she approached me again (I left the area and came back) in order to negotiate since I didn't take her after her 3000/4000 price.
I could assume, because I asked her for her price, that that is the reason for her coming up with 3000/4000. But I'm wondering if that is what many of the 7, 8 9's up in D'Latins are expecting as well?Just be careful bro. If you run into one quoting that high of a price, then goes down to 1500 or 2000, take her ass to the cabana. Too many stories here about chicas dropping the price just to get you to take them, then once in your hotel room they jack the price up again and threaten to call the police if you don't agree to pay it.
I was approached by a Haitian chica close to Rumba, and later saw her at D'Latins. From a distance, her makeup, hair do, red dress and heels, she looked attractive. Up close she was still doable, but not for 3000 which she quoted me for ST, and 4000 for TLN.Interesting. Back in my day, dudes were giving Haitians about a third of of Dominicans got.
Guys, thanks for keeping me up to date on the pick pockets, covered BJs, street scams, etc. I'd like to work a Sosua trip in this year, in between my travels to other destinations around the globe, so its good to know what folks are experiencing, even if it is a general decline in the environment. As a side note, there have always been pickpockets in Sosua, but maybe the problem has gotten worse?
Stayed at the victorian house. Pretty nice hotel for $65. My boy had a jr suite and he found a mouse in his room. I saw the biggest roach in the hallway in front of my room. I kicked it and it layed in the hallway for two days before the maids took it I assume LOL.I noticed the big roaches when the Sosua Bay side was open also so this is nothing new, although I haven't seen them on the Victoria side when I've stayed there. Perhaps people are so used to it, they don't see it as an issue or eyesore? As far as mice in the rooms, I would find this bothersome. I realize this is the 3rd world, but some extermination and general maintenance would go a long way. I guess if you are there long enough, you might get used to these conditions? I certainly love the view, but not with rodents in my room.
I am considering resting up a night or two, so I can go to D'Latins and pick out one of those sexy's. Friday night there were a lot of sexy women up in there. Chicas that probably never stepped foot in Rumbas, prior to going to DL. I'm sure most nights a bunch of sexy talent rolls of in there. Question though. Are guys finding that the most attractive chicas in D'Latins are consistently asking for 3000 and above even for ST?
I was approached by a Haitian chica close to Rumba, and later saw, her at D'Latins. From a distance, her makeup, hair do, red dress and heels, she looked attractive. Up close she was still doable, but not for 3000 which she quoted me for ST, and 4000 for TLN.
D'Latinos gets busy around 11:00 p.m. and there are plenty of chicas available.
I have had two chicas recently from D'Latinos around 11:00 p.m., both young and very attractive IMHO, who agreed without any bargaining to 1500 pesos to do the deed. In fact I awarded a 500 pesos superior performance bonus to both, bring the cost up to 2000 pesos each, but they initially agreed to 1500 pesos.
I just approach them, chat and flirt with them a bit, ask them to step outside to chat, offer them 1500 pesos for a "rato" and they can take it or leave it. They just say yes, OK. No one ever mentions 3000 or 4000 to me, or perhaps I am just not listening. If they did, I would clutch my chest and fall to the floor. After receiving CPR I would just interview another candidate to assume the position.
They are no reason for me to down play the potential for one to be stolen from in the DR it happens every second of the day and night somewhere in the country but if I look at the dangers that I have personally noticed it no where near match's some of the other parts of the world I have visited. Since the beginning of time they have been prostitutes and thieves they go hand in hand.You can say that again! In Down And Out In London And Paris, George Orwell recounts how in the 1920's while working as a dishwasher in Paris, he was robbed by his male room mate, who disappeared with every penny he owned, leaving him literally starving. However the reality actually was that it was a young female prostitute he had romanced and befriended who disappeared with his cash.
Orwell also wrote this poem in Burma:
When I was young and had no sense.
In far-off Mandalay.
I lost my heart to a Burmese girl.
As lovely as the day.
Her skin was gold, her hair was jet,
Her teeth were ivory;
I said,"for twenty silver pieces,
Maiden, sleep with me".
She looked at me, so pure, so sad,
The loveliest thing alive,
And in her lisping, virgin voice,
Stood out for twenty-five.
Is Sosua becoming the new Boca Chica and Boca Chica becoming the new Sosua.
ChrisHmmm Boca Chica had its hay day in the early 2000s and before I was told. Sosua is on the decline buts has a lot of gas in its tank. Before BC can regain its reign I think it needs the following:
1. More chicas who speak English. Alot of the chicas that come for work and don't live in BC comes from Andres, SD, and San Pedro. These chicas don't speak much English or none at all. Hence the need for a lot of Touts. Even some of my boys use Touts. I don't understand why. I learned my second trip I can use a calculator to make a deal on how much pesos I want to offer and the chica can used to same to counter. Using a Touts is a sign of a sucker as I later learned.
2. B. C. Needs more hotels but I guess that will come with supply and demand. Their are a lot of close down hotels due to a lack of business.
3. B. C needs more clubs catered to tourist. The Batey (the only club now left open after 2:30am) plays about 2 hip hop songs per hour, no country, no pop, no rock, or techno- they seem to be stuck on 50 cent. Its no live DJ. There club is basically for the local crowd and they have a lot of gays nights were the gays take over the dance floor.
4. B. C. Has more Touts than tourist. 6 guys in the middle of the street trying to tell you were to park. Its so unnecessary.
5. Police in B. C. Need to be controlled. If you give money to a street cop they will label your car and stop you almost every time for more. I don't even like talking to street cops except Rambo the Tourist Officer.
But on a good note B. C. Is cheaper, easier, and safer to get to and from the airport. B. C. Does have EL Capital within 20 minutes. More things to do there as far as sight seeing. If more tourist start coming to B. C. More chicas will come from the surrounding cities. I made a wrong call on the GFE in BC. It is better there than Sosua. A lot of B. C. Ladies with stay with you as long as you like giving you the GFE. Its not enough business hurry to go get back in line for the next dude. They are more likely to stay with you as long and you like them and course you are paying.
I would love to see B. C. Make a fight for its crown back. Sosua has the crown and the attitudes of the chicas reflected it, I say thereby leading to a decline of appreciation of business. It shouldn't surprise knowing the business smarts of a lot of the chicas.
I am considering resting up a night or two, so I can go to D'Latins and pick out one of those sexy's. Friday night there were a lot of sexy women up in there. Chicas that probably never stepped foot in Rumbas, prior to going to DL. I'm sure most nights a bunch of sexy talent rolls of in there. Question though. Are guys finding that the most attractive chicas in D'Latins are consistently asking for 3000 and above even for ST?
I was approached by a Haitian chica close to Rumba, and later saw her at D'Latins. From a distance, her makeup, hair do, red dress and heels, she looked attractive. Up close she was still doable, but not for 3000 which she quoted me for ST, and 4000 for TLN.
I would figure a chica in D'Latins could get at least 2, 000 & up for ST if she is really attractive? But 3000? Usually I would tell a chica what I will pay her for ST if I want them. Let them take it or leave. But if I'm not really interested but just curious to what they were expecting I'll ask just to see what they were expecting. This Haitian chica was tracking me, because I saw how she moved to get next to me when I was near Rumba, and was right on top of me the moment I stepped out of D'Latins. Later she approached me again (I left the area and came back) in order to negotiate since I didn't take her after her 3000/4000 price.
I could assume, because I asked her for her price, that that is the reason for her coming up with 3000/4000. But I'm wondering if that is what many of the 7, 8 9's up in D'Latins are expecting as well?If a chicas is dress to impress hair, make-up, clothes, shoe etc. She is looking and hoping- her high price looks- reflects a high price hook. I rarely approach these females first- to do this gives them the upper hand and a sometimes inflated price. If I have to have her I may just walk up say "mi gusta su estilo" and walk off as if I am done with her. If she comes back I will give her the ""te ves bien, pero usted es demasiado caro para mí" Then I will tell her the price range I am looking for deflated in a little. Quite honestly she paid extra for the weave, outfit, and nails so it understandable. But its game against game.
If a chicas is dress to impress hair, make-up, clothes, shoe etc. She is looking and hoping- her high price looks- reflects a high price hook. I rarely approach these females first- to do this gives them the upper hand and a sometimes inflated price. If I have to have her I may just walk up say "mi gusta su estilo" and walk off as if I am done with her. If she comes back I will give her the ""te ves bien, pero usted es demasiado caro para mí" Then I will tell her the price range I am looking for deflated in a little. Quite honestly she paid extra for the weave, outfit, and nails so it understandable. But its game against game.Grown Man I like the way Frannie goes about it. Chat with whomever is your cup of tea that you would like to go with and make them a reasonable "take it or leave it offer:". If they don't accept " su oferta" move on to the next one.
Camaro1257
02-16-14, 22:40
Introduction:
I have recently returned from spending time in the Dominican Republic. I spent 2 days in Sosua. 5 days in Santo Domingo and I returned to Sosua and spent another 5 days. I wasn't going to write another synopsis on Sosua since it has been covered at nauseam but I changed my mind because I have some thoughts I'd like to share and I wanted to present a current update for all who were interested. Some of the information contained in this synopsis is well known to veteran mongers but new information to others, my objective is to be as informative as possible to all who are interested. Below I have listed my notes for your review:
Lodging:
The Victorian House
The Victorian House is the old Sosua Bay Hotel and it is absolutely beautiful. The view of the bay is OUTSTANDING! During the day you can see the boats floating on the crystal blue water and after dark the lights that surround the beach reflect the deep blue water that flows seamlessly into the midnight sky. I have an hotel room with a balcony view of the Sosua Bay and a king size bed with good WIFI signal and a spacious room with a refrigerator and safe. The bottom line is this is the spot! This is an excellent place to chill bring different chicas or wife up as it provides the ambiance that should impress any chica. If your chica doesn't like this spot she needs to go somewhere and sit down!
La Comida:
Bourbon Street Restaurant.
The Victorian House restaurant is called Bourbon Street Restaurant. It is open from 7am to 11pm at night and the food is excellent. I do notknow which is better the view of Sosua Bay the laid back ambiance with jazz playing in the background or the signature Cajun food from New Orleans. Each individual will have to decide for themselves.
• Breakfast:
I had eggs bacon and pancakes which were good the typical American breakfast. I believe I paid 350DOP.
• Lunch:
I had chicken and waffles it put me in the mind of Gladys Chicken and Waffles in Atlanta. The waffle was good and the wings were small but tasty. I believe I paid 550DOP.
• Dinner:
Salmon dinner was absolutely incredible! The grilled salmon was supposed to be covered in shrimp but since I am allergic to shrimp I substituted a pepper and onion semi-sweet sauce that was absolutely incredible. The sides I enjoyed were mashed potatoes and broccoli which both had a soft butter flavor. I believe I paid 750DOP.
*Some would say that the food is on the expensive side and others would say you get what you pay for.
Dinero:
Wells Fargo US: 37DOP-1US.
POP Airport :36DOP-1US.
Western Union Sosua 42. 95DOP. 1US
Casas de Citas:
Passions- Pedro Clisante, Sosua: Passions is still closed.
CMP- Pedro Clisante, Sosua: Caribbean Man's Parades is still closed.
Calle Pedro Clisante:
The below listed information is for people who are unfamiliar with Sosua. Calle Pedro Clisante has a block where some of the major action occurs in Sosua at night. I walked Pedro Clisante east from el centro to just the other side of Passions and took note of the below listed establishments:
• Mama Iguana Cafe.
It's a laid back spot which sets off the street and you could miss it by walking if you're not paying attention because it is snuggled in between other bars and restaurants. It has dim lighting that makes it a good spot to spend time with a chica for drinks or interviewing. I didn't get the impression this was a singles spot more of a chill spot with a lady. There is generally security at the door and the bar and wait staff was flush with eye candy.
• Winners Circle.
Is totally enclosed venue that is almost always empty despite its prime real estate location. Is a sports bar that is totally enclosed with transparent glass on the outside. The bar is a place to drink meet and listen to music but it is not very large it also can serve as a good place to interview or chill with a chica or your friends. There is staff that stands outside trying to get traffic to come inside. I literally do not know how this place can afford to stay open.
• Merengue. Classicos.
Merengue is the downstairs bar next to Classicos which is totally enclosed upstairs on the second floor. Classicos was closed at the time of this report. Merengue has a circular bar with chairs that surround it and chairs and tables along the outer perimeter of the bar. Since there is no music it is an excellent place to conduct interviews because you don't have to contend with excessive noise. In addition there were a few chicas in the spot who did not wanted to be bothered with D' Latins or Rumbas.
• The Spot.
Is a sports bar type venue that is totally enclosed with transparent glass on the outside. The bar is a place to drink meet and listen to music but it is not very large it also can serve as a good place to interview or chill with a chica or your friends if the music is
• Bar Central
Is Haitian Headquarters and chocolate city, it is the bar that most Hatianas hang at. The bar is has a open front and is not really a place where people listen to music and dance but it more like a meeting place.
• D Latin's
The current primary night tourist bar for Sosua. It gets so crowded around 1 am that you cannot move with ease. If the venue had to meet US fire code standards it would be shut down as a fire hazard during busy time. If there was ever a fire or large disturbance and you were in the wrong location of the club you would be stuck. I recommend staying close to the doors. It was formally and open air bar with a very small dance floor. Now D' Latin's has tinted glass all around and 2 front doors that serve as entrances and exits. There are ceiling fans and large fans near the 2 doors that help to circulate the outside air in. As long as you stay in the path of the fans you can stay comfortable. The music is a mix between American and local. There is an enclosed VIP behind the old VIP that has its own bar and seating, it was not in use during my trip.
• Rumba's
The primary afternoon and early evening tourist bar for Sosua. Sometimes it gets so crowded that there is very little space for movement. The venue has a open air sports bar feel with multiple flat screen TV's. The is a small dance floor next to the DJ booth. The music is a mix between American and local.
• El Flow
The primary local bar on Pedro Clisante. There is a bar backroom and tables. The venue has been closed in and has transparent glass on the outside. The music is local a mix between bachata, merengue and salsa.
• Bermuda Bar &Cigar Shop.
Is an open air bar on that has activity almost any time of day however the chica clientele is generally of low caliber. I personally have never seen a chica there I would be attracted to.
• Chez Mon Resturant & Sports Bar.
Is a nice bar and restaurant that stays busy not packed but there is sufficient traffic to make it a stop. It has a sports bar feel with TV's and an upstairs and downstairs. It is a good spot to hang with your friends or take a date. The food is decent and occasionally the chicas will pass through inside the venue and can always be seen from the corner.
• City Nights Disco Bar.
Is now open and looks good inside with a great ambiance and a giant screen TV on the back wall. There were very few people when I was there.
• Lyndas Resturant & Sports Bar.
Is an outdoor venue I don't recall seeing any TV's do I don't know why it's called a sports bar. I saw 3 chicas chilling just talking and no men in the place.
• CuCu Bar.
Is an open air venue under a straw hut. It has a bar and a couple of pool tables, I saw a bunch of hombres just chilling and talking.
• Four Roses.
Is a small open air venue which had the vibe of a local bar with hombres chilling with no stress.
• El Patio Restaurant.
Is a small open air venue and I really like this spot I only saw 2 chicas there but they were playing jazz and it had a nice laid back vibe especially since the evening I walked by it was a cool 70 degrees outside.
• Europa Hotel & Bar.
Is the open air venue that is a part of the Europa and it faces the hotel hidden from the street. It was laid back venue in the past I have seen women in front of this spot but on this occasion it was empty.
• Samba.
I am not certain but I believe this is the venue that was connected to Passions. The staff was very beautiful with mostly 7's and a couple of 8's. There was a lot of activity there with a handful of men being entertained by the staff.
• Rancho Tipco.
Rancho Tipico is a restaurant and bar that is just past the closed Passions on Pedro Clisante. Rancho Tipco for me was the hidden gem of Pedro Clisante. I thoroughly enjoyed the service and the staff. First La Hefe walks up in a black dress and greets me. She was about 5'8" 150 dark complexioned and very attractive. Then a German guy greeted me I suppose he was the owner. The waitresses were very friendly forcing us to bachata with them which was absolute torture. They danced together and truly enjoyed their job. I had fish, grilled potatoes and vegetables for 350DOP it was absolutely delicious. It was worth the walk to the other end of Pedro Clisante.
For night owls in Sosua:
Night owls have 3 major venues they can attend after 3am. You are likely to see some of the same people you have seen on the strip.
• After One.
Should be called After 3 because it doesn't open until 3 am. It is located in the same building as the Sosua Bay Casino. There is a 100 peso cover by some of the same security that you see in D Latin's. The music is a mix of techno, local and American. The venue has 2 bars. 2 dance floors and 2 balconies.
• Carpirina.
Is an outdoor venue with a bar and tables and chairs on the lawn outside. It is on a side street off Aliejo Martinez.
• Copacabana (Chelo)
Is an outdoor venue with a bar and tables and chairs on the lawn outside. It is on a side street off Aliejo Martinez after you pass Carpirina.
Closing Observations:
The internet is a viable tool to use in the search for chicas but totally unnecessary. The advantage to the internet is it allows you to get pre-acquainted and establish a connection before you hit the ground but despite all my telephone numbers and whatssapp conversations I am averaging 1 internet meeting out of a dozen internet contacts in my last few trips.
I continue to find women who are worthy of my respect in the Dominican Republic, I have listed a brief synopsis of my experiences below:
• I had a chica from Puerto Plata who is attempting to wait for marriage before having sex.
• I flirted with a Sosua chica for 2 days and we finally shared numbers. She came to my hotel room and we talked for over 30 minutes. After making our connection I offered 1500DOP for ST and she smiled at me and said she wanted to get to know me better before we had sex. WTF. I thought I was back in the USA for a minute.
• Then there was "Wifey" who turned down the opportunity to make extra pesos with another monger as well as trying to give me back my money in an attempt to show she was for real. How many Sosua chicas do you know that will try to give you back your money? Even if the gesture was symbolic she did what very few chicas will do. Then she gets a waitress job where she makes in 2 weeks what she could make in 1 night with less work. Who does that?
I am increasingly inclined to the wife up option because sampling random chicas while fun, exciting and challenging can be disappointing especially if "Wifey" is putting it down, I'd like to share this quote:
"Spending the majority of a vacation with one isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you find something that's working for you, why change it? . Having fun, laughter, and a great time with a great chica is the main course. Sex is merely the dessert". Irie circa 2014.
I had a "Wifey" this trip that was one of my top 3 sexual experiences in life. It is rare for me to connect on that level with a woman. Obviously the wife up option comes with challenges one problem with the wife up option is the potential for catching feelings and the subsequent jealousy that follows. We can call next as often as like but the risk is that the next may not be able to satisfy like the former. Therefore, there is no perfect paradigm for this thing of ours and as always YMMV.
My trip was right after the Superbowl and it was reported that some chicas were asking for $150-$200. 00 for ST and getting it because of all the men that were in town. There appears to be a loosely organized puta cartel that agrees only to go for specific prices based on their tier system and how they perceive themselves to valued. It does not appear to be as organized as the Colombianas who ply their trade in Panama City, Panama and San Jose, Costa Rica but it exist. Our response should be keeping prices on point by not transcending our price points of 1000-2000DOP for ST and 1500-3000DOP for TLN.
The market value of toto always rings true. At Disney World theme park a hot dog might cost $10. 00 but outside the park in Orlando the same hot dog might cost $2. 00. Likewise I saw a Sosua chica who goes for1500-2000DOP for ST in a casa in Santo Domingo going for 4000DOP for the same amount of time. Sometimes what we pay has much to do with geography and exactly where we are.
I noticed none of the doom and gloom that Cuba Dave spoke of at the airport or on the ground in Sosua. I went smoothly through the airport and while I was on the ground in Sousa it was business as usual all that is needed is basic Spanish and knowledge of what you should pay and what to look out for.
Other than the about of jealousy I had with "Wifey" I had no real problems with chicas on this trip. I attribute that to spending time with regulars and the new chicas I explored with were observed for an extended period of time and were vetted before we spent time together. I know not to make a habit of leaving money laying around my room unsecured but I got side tracked only to find everything in place. Of course I will not take that situation for granted I only mention it to make the point that some of the adversity we face with chicas is the result of our choices and our personnel negligence to detail.
Conclusion:
I had a great trip and I learned much about Santo Domingo and sharpened my skills in Sosua. My next trip will be a Sosua-Santiago excursion March 12th- 21st.
The market value of toto always rings true. At Disney World theme park a hot dog might cost $10. 00 but outside the park in Orlando the same hot dog might cost $2. 00. Likewise I saw a Sosua chica who goes for1500-2000DOP for ST in a casa in Santo Domingo going for 4000DOP for the same amount of time. Sometimes what we pay has much to do with geography and exactly where we are.Excellent report. I also agree that Rancho Tipico is a decent place with decent food.
But the chica you mentioned above is probably getting the same amount of money out of it in both places. To be more precise the difference in price has to do with how much money someone else is taking for pimping her. In Sosua the women are mainly freelance except at the now defunct brothels of Passions and CMP. In Santo Domingo the casa is taking a cut and the casa is also paying commissions to taxi drivers to bring people in.
Camaro1257
02-16-14, 23:12
Excellent report. I also agree that Rancho Tipico is a decent place with decent food.
But the chica you mentioned above is probably getting the same amount of money out of it in both places. To be more precise the difference in price has to do with how much money someone else is taking for pimping her. In Sosua the women are mainly freelance except at the now defunct brothels of Passions and CMP. In Santo Domingo the casa is taking a cut and the casa is also paying commissions to taxi drivers to bring people in.I agree, I just thought it was ironic I saw her in Sosua 2 days prior to Santo Domingo. She just looked at me and smiled.
Conclusion:
I had a great trip and I learned much about Santo Domingo and sharpened my skills in Sosua. My next trip will be a Sosua-Santiago excursion March 12th- 21st.Excellent report!
Thanks for taking the time to write a detailed report!
Been here two weeks now and have one to go. Since being here back in December I wanted to get a better feel for the Sosua area as a place to spend perhaps weeks / months at a time as I am in a position to pull the plug on working at anytime. My daily routine is to spend time at the beach and either go kayaking, body surfing, or open ocean swimming. I've been kayaking in both Sosua and Cabarette and body surfing at Playa Encuentro which is actually the DR's premier surfing spot. Playa Encuentro is like being in Huntington Beach, CA with surf camps / schools, board rentals, etc. And is a pretty good break if your into surfing.
Since being here I have been with 3 Haitians and 3 Dominicans from the Strip, and four Dominican Dating Site Girls. Of the six girls I pulled from the Strip for short time I was disappointed with four of them.
I also found some of the girls I talked with on the Strip to have an arrogant and snotty ass attitude at times. I started the interview process with one little spinner on the Strip and she took her cell phone out and typed in the number 200. She wasn't into talking much and assumed that I didn't speak any Spanish at all. When I read the number she typed in I asked if her if 200 Pesos was all she wanted and she gave me a very dirty look, then looked at her phone and immediately re-typed in the number 2,000. I then told her I had just eaten, was full and perhaps later. She then got very angry. No diplomacy skills at all, which is something I have observed with a lot of these girls on this trip. Yesterday I was getting ready to add credit to my cell phone at one of the kiosks in a store on the Strip and two girls walk up and one asks me if I would step aside and let her go ahead of me. She thought she was the hottest thing since sliced bread with her designer sunglasses, etc. I told that she was going to wait her turn. This one was arrogant as hell, which is another thing I've noticed with a lot of the girls on the Strip.
I found a great Italian restaurant named Bologna on Calle Alejo Martinez # 33 that I took one my Dominican Cupid (DC) girlfriends to on Valentines Day. While having dinner I noticed a couple of women mongers with their Dominican stud boyfriends in tow. I wonder if there is website for women mongers. There probably is one and I bet it would be a gaggle to read the posts just like on this Site.
I have a buddy coming in tomorrow who has never been here before who will be spending a week here before we return to California together. We are Tijuana regulars just about every weekend and I have told him it's a totally different scene here. In Tijuana you have cops trying to shake you down and lots of the women have tattoos and screwed up teeth. His problem like mine at times will be trying to choose from the herds of attractive women available. This place is like being in an Ice Cream Shop. Tonight I'm having one of my DC girlfriends come over for the night. She is a horny divorcee, a fuller woman but not fat. In anticipation of this tonight, my flavor from the Strip last night was a petite small spinner that had the smallest little ass. Some days it's been chocolate, other days strawberry, or just plain old vanilla!
Last week when I had the horny divorcee over, the day afterwards I received a message on my phone from a man who said he was the husband and sounded threatening. I sent the divorcee a message about this and asked for an explanation. She told me it was her ex-husband who had taken her phone while visiting their son, was jealous, etc. She got a new phone. I'm being careful with this one but enjoy her company, nothing like a 28 year old horny divorce.
A couple of days ago I was in Puerto Plata at the large Supermarket I think it's La Siena by the Malecon and there were some pretty girls in there. There was one pretty skinny one in the cosmetic section who wasn't wearing a bra and had perky little boobs that were popping out of her blouse. I wanted to say hello but had one of my DC girlfriends in tow. Another good spot with lots of Chicas coming and going is the Taxi stand tor Puerto Plata on the main highway in Sosua. I met one dinky little thing there one day but the timing was off and she didn't have a cell phone so I had to pass. This spot is also the dropping off point for all the Chicas coming in from Puerto Plata and Santiago to work in Sosua. I plan on spending more time at this spot in the future as there are a lot of civilians coming and going who might be open to meeting someone.
To prepare for my next visit here I plan on working on my Spanish which I cannot emphasize enough to anyone who comes here on a regular basis. I also plan on developing some more DC relationships. I'm becoming less enamored with the Chicas on the Strip. I've also gotten to know some of the locals who live here and their observations about the girls on the Strip has been somewhat of a turning of the tide over the last few years. I hope this place doesn't turn into something like San Jose, CR.
Tempoecorto
02-18-14, 15:35
I flirted with a Sosua chica for 2 days and we finally shared numbers. She came to my hotel room and we talked for over 30 minutes. After making our connection I offered 1500DOP for ST and she smiled at me and said she wanted to get to know me better before we had sex. WTF. I thought I was back in the USA for a minute.May I make a suggestion? Given that you are going for the "non-pro" population, I would venture that offering money as some might to a pro at the outset, is a non-starter (I did not discuss money even with the pros in Sosua). It may miff the other person by being equated with the pros! Under such circumstances, if I were you, I would continue to woo and get the deed done and only prior to leaving, would stick in some money, almost as an afterthought of appreciation. In my experience, it works, in saving face and obviously in sorting out any expectation. Of course, I have had situations in which nothing absolutely happened as women do balk at times but I never opened any discussion of money and we parted after a meal together. The next time, it was a sure hit!
Camaro1257
02-18-14, 16:47
May I make a suggestion? Given that you are going for the "non-pro" population, I would venture that offering money as some might to a pro at the outset, is a non-starter (I did not discuss money even with the pros in Sosua). It may miff the other person by being equated with the pros! Under such circumstances, if I were you, I would continue to woo and get the deed done and only prior to leaving, would stick in some money, almost as an afterthought of appreciation. In my experience, it works, in saving face and obviously in sorting out any expectation. Of course, I have had situations in which nothing absolutely happened as women do balk at times but I never opened any discussion of money and we parted after a meal together. The next time, it was a sure hit!Thanks for your comment.
I assumed the chica in question was PFP because I saw her both in Rumba's and D' Latin. If I suspect a chica is PFP unless we have history together I generally discuss money first in order to avoid confusion later. I like discussing money because her response lets me know where her head is for example if she counters with some unreasonable figure I can show her my invisible man routine. The chica in question and I had a good vibe and she didn't act as if she was offended after I offered the money, in fact she wanted to spend more time together. I considered her response as an anomaly the exception to the rule so to speak. Honestly I enjoyed the interaction because her response let me know that "todas las mujeres en Sosua no son cueros!" In fact I met some pretty cool chicas this trip that was refreshing to experience something different from what others have been reporting.
I agree with your approach in not talking money with civilian chicas in fact I have the same MO as you.
Tempoecorto
02-19-14, 01:15
I assumed the chica in question was PFP because I saw her both in Rumba's and D' Latin.Sorry, I thought it was a regular chica. Obviously therefore what you did makes sense. My two occasions in Sosua, I did not discuss money even with pros a) because I just got the phone numbers and called the women in the afternoon thereafter which is downtime for them and b) I offered what was the market price and the women never had a problem but I understand your modus operandi!
Enjoy the DR.
I assume every women I see is for sale. You can get some very good deals for afternoon delight. Most ladies look at this as bonus time. Not talking money can lead to some major blow ups. I had a wing man set me up on a blind date. The lady was 6 ' tall and curvy. Went spent $100 bucks on dinner and wine. My guy thinks these are classy ladies. After some small talk I discover my girl wants 6k pesos. You have to be very careful with these girls.
Sorry, I thought it was a regular chica. Obviously therefore what you did makes sense. My two occasions in Sosua, I did not discuss money even with pros a) because I just got the phone numbers and called the women in the afternoon thereafter which is downtime for them and be) I offered what was the market price and the women never had a problem but I understand your modus operandi!
Enjoy the DR.
Tempoecorto
02-19-14, 05:26
I assume every women I see is for sale.
Not talking money can lead to some major blow upsYes, in Sosua, that would be axiomatic.
I understand the potential risk of not talking money but the two times I have been to Sosua looking for women, Frannie set me up with the first one, the very first time. A nice Haitian and then I instinctively steer away from the hardcore (as in speaking English or in groups) and so it has never been an issue. Speaking of 2011. The single ones I have often found to be demure and sweet. Even those at classicos. Keep my fingers crossed!
What about camareras, hairdressers and service personnel?
I'm sure that many of those don't mind some extra income, but isn't ''everything'' is a bit of overstatement?
I assume every women I see is for sale. You can get some very good deals for afternoon delight. Most ladies look at this as bonus time. Not talking money can lead to some major blow ups. I had a wing man set me up on a blind date. The lady was 6 ' tall and curvy. Went spent $100 bucks on dinner and wine. My guy thinks these are classy ladies. After some small talk I discover my girl wants 6k pesos. You have to be very careful with these girls.
What about camareras, hairdressers and service personnel?
I'm sure that many of those don't mind some extra income, but isn't 'everything' is a bit of overstatement?Not really an understatement at all. You are still paying for sex in one way or another, so P4P still applies. I don't expect someone to fuck my hairy old ugly fat ass for free, thus, I do not mind paying the market price.
I'm just not quite sure if non putas should be approached / treated as putas.
If you see a cute camarera you just ask her how much?
Could this cause some trouble with her or her boyfriend slapping your face or a knife between your ribs in case her boyfriend is drunk/crazy?
Not really an understatement at all. You are still paying for sex in one way or another, so P4P still applies. I don't expect someone to fuck my hairy old ugly fat ass for free, thus, I do not mind paying the market price.
SavePros321
02-19-14, 14:14
Since being here I have been with 3 Haitians and 3 Dominicans from the Strip, and four Dominican Dating Site Girls. Of the six girls I pulled from the Strip for short time I was disappointed with four of them.Surfer, what would you say is the furthest some of your internet dating site chicas have come from (Puerto Plata, Santiago, La Vega? Santo Domingo, etc.)?
Were some of them hesitant about coming to meet you in Sosua (because of Sosua's reputation as a puta town)?
Update on the La Vega chica I met on 2/10 in Santiago. Picked the chica up in PP (2/15) at the Caribe Tours station. Chica once again was looking very sexy. We get back to my spot. Within 30 minutes or so, she's straddling me on the couch. Ready to get busy. The sex was good, and she has a nice body, but the chica leched like she hadn't had sex in months. Came within a few minutes and couldn't continue. She left the bedroom I thought to take a shower and come back to bed. But after 15 minutes she didn't come back to bed, I found her on the couch passed out. This is in the early afternoon. We hadn't had anything to drink yet. I was thinking damn. I didn't even get the chance to really enjoy this chica.
After that, now the chica is very hungry. We left for Cabarete. After a few hours more she said she better be heading back. So I took her to Charimicos to catch the bus, and that was that. Still staying in touch via Whatsapp. Cool chica, thus far. To be continued.
Meanwhile, a few nights I hung out at Rumbas and made it over to D'Latins. Just a lot of looking going on in Rumbas. In D'Latins briefly spoke to a few chicas trying to find clients. Had this tall chica standing next to me eventually start dancing in front of me. So I pulled her closer so she could grind a little of that big ass on me. I left for the bathroom, and got stopped a few times on the way back. Got back to where I left the tall chica and she had disappeared. Saw her over by the bathroom where I just came from. Oh well. Within seconds another pair of chicas came near.
I eventually took one of them back to my spot. The sex was uneventful. I like passionate women that also know what they are doing in the bedroom. She was not and did not, with me. She also seemed new to Sosua. Chica was cute and had a nice body but basically a waste of time and money.
The next night, a 180 degree change. I went to Rumbas. I met one of my buddies already there. He was sitting next to a chica with reddish hair. His spanish is non existent so she didn't get very far with him. When I came along, she turned her attention more towards me, and we all started vibing right off the bat. Her and I left shortly after, for my spot. Sex was a 90% improvement from the chica I had the previous night. Chica claims she wants to cook for us. So I may have her come over one night to cook a nice meal. With her as I do with others, I made sure we had an understanding about her doing her thing with other men is no problem with me, and for her not to be trippin when I am doing mine with other chicas.
Must have registered because we met again up in Rumbas, took her back to my spot. Did the deed, and took her back to THE SPOT restaurant for whatever she had in mind. One of her amigas works there, but I'd venture to guess she uses that spot to meet potential clients looking for a chica. About 3am when her GF was getting off, she called me so she could come back over to sleep in my place. I had a good nap, so I went out to pick her up. Chica was kinda tipsy when she got in the car, and by the time her head hit the pillow she was comatose. I was tired too, because I didn't realize until this morning that she is still fully dressed.
Getting out to go to Rumbas and D'Latins was cool. In D'Latins I got to see a lot more chicas and a better selection than I would otherwise. Ironically, of the chicas I picked from either spot, I didn't discuss price or how long. Maybe I lucked up or perhaps understanding each other helped? Yesterday I met a chica from San Cristobal at the playa (stays in Charimicos ). She was a nice looking redbone. We left from the playa, stopped for some food, and then off to my spot. In the bedroom, she wanted to use a condom for a BJ, and her hand. Nothing passionate or stimulating about this chica. I guess she also thought jerking me to erection was going to eventually work, but it didn't.
I eventually stopped the madness, got her dressed and dropped her off in Charimicos. But not without her acting clueless about what happened, what she was doing or didn't do.
Surfer, what would you say is the furthest some of your internet dating site chicas have come from (Puerto Plata, Santiago, La Vega? Santo Domingo, etc.)?
Were some of them hesitant about coming to meet you in Sosua (because of Sosua's reputation as a puta town)?Stick to the girls that live in the Puerto Plata area because it's a 100 Pesos round-trip away and close in case some issues arrive and the girl needs to leave.
Everybody knows what goes on in Sosua, and some girls wouldn't come here to meet me but most of them didn't care.
Good luck!
Sosua has so many women ready to roll that inviting internet girls is a waste of time. The good girls know that Sosua is puta central and will be insulted. In SD having internet girls is great. It takes the pressure of of hunting them down. I do not like SD casas so I have to hit the streets and clubs.
Surfer, what would you say is the furthest some of your internet dating site chicas have come from (Puerto Plata, Santiago, La Vega? Santo Domingo, etc.)?
Were some of them hesitant about coming to meet you in Sosua (because of Sosua's reputation as a puta town)?
Tempoecorto
02-19-14, 16:50
I'm just not quite sure if non putas should be approached / treated as putas.
If you see a cute camarera you just ask her how much?I think you are looking at a rhetorical answer. Clearly the real world answer to your question is no! But in that town, many if not most are for sale. You may have to use tact and class when not sure and with waitstuff or others gainfully employed, you also need patience. To wait until they end their shift etc. This last trip, I went to a place for a pedicure and manicure in the afternoon. I liked the woman who served me. One thing led to another and the woman was sucking dick in the car at night after she was done and when I dropped her at her pto pta home.
Sosua has so many women ready to roll that inviting internet girls is a waste of time. The good girls know that Sosua is puta central and will be insulted. In SD having internet girls is great. It takes the pressure of of hunting them down. I do not like SD casas so I have to hit the streets and clubs.You may think that inviting Internet girls to Sosua is a waste of time, but in my case I'm having better experiences with them than those off the streets of Sosua. I have three Internet girls which I consider to be semi-pros and they are not insulted by what goes on here and I don't treat them like Putas. These girls instead of walking the Strip looking for guys utilize the Internet, kind of like Craigslist. The process takes some time but in the process I learn something about the girls prior to meeting them and am able to work on my Spanish. I do agree with you though in regards for a dislike of the Casa's in SD, I was only their once and did have some good experiences with girls from the streets and did not like the clubs. If your into sport *ucking versus a GFE experience with girls in Sosua than the Internet would be a waste of time.
Mr Enternational
02-20-14, 02:40
Getting out to go to Rumbas and D'Latins was cool. In D'Latins I got to see a lot more chicas and a better selection than I would otherwise. Ironically, of the chicas I picked from either spot, I didn't discuss price or how long. Maybe I lucked up or perhaps understanding each other helped?Once they realize you are not a horny tourist and live there it is a totally different ballgame (pretty much works the same when living in any mongering location.) Soon you should be part of the Sosua 500. The guys that live there who not giving those skanks over 500 pesos for a piece of ass.
Quick story. Here in Thailand I always see this chick in the disco (hooker pick-up spot) at night. I have always wanted to hit but never have. One night I woke up at 3 am and decided to go to McDonald's on Beach Road (same as malecon) to get some nuggets and while I was there I would get me a SW to take to the short time hotel. I usually pay the SW $12 for short time so I put that plus the $3 it would cost for the room in my pocket. In another place I hid the 1000 baht bill (equivalent of $30) and would use that to make my purchase at McDonald's.
I was riding down the street on my motorbike in the rain when I spotted the girl I knew from the disco walking. I made a u-turn and asked her where she was going. She said home. I told her to hop on and I would take her. It was only like 2 minutes away. I relayed the idea that I wanted to fuck her and she invited me in and we got busy. The session was top notch. After I finished to a CIM I asked her how much I owed her. She said it was up to me. I broke out the $15 (500 baht) and told her that is all I had. She started laughing and said that she usually gets a minimum of $30. She took it and said that is okay because she knows I live here and I was just going out to get something to eat anyway and not intending to pick someone up to fuck. To top that off, she tried to give me half of the $15 back telling me to use that to buy my food. I played it off and said no, that I would just eat some fruit that I had left in my refrigerator. I left and headed to McDonald's.
SavePros321
02-20-14, 03:50
You may think that inviting Internet girls to Sosua is a waste of time, but in my case I'm having better experiences with them than those off the streets of Sosua. I have three Internet girls which I consider to be semi-pros and they are not insulted by what goes on here and I don't treat them like Putas. These girls instead of walking the Strip looking for guys utilize the Internet, kind of like Craigslist. The process takes some time but in the process I learn something about the girls prior to meeting them and am able to work on my Spanish. I do agree with you though in regards for a dislike of the Casa's in SD, I was only their once and did have some good experiences with girls from the streets and did not like the clubs. If your into sport *ucking versus a GFE experience with girls in Sosua than the Internet would be a waste of time.Oldkool, read this over and over again multiple times until it sinks in, LOL.
Ipanema Carioca
02-20-14, 05:39
In Sosua, avoid a girl named Lucci! Kinda tall, pretty, eye liner, nice body, tattoo writing on base of neck, and a large color flower vine tattoo rising on outer leg. Very bad performer and attitude. I met her in front of the Rumba Bar 5 days ago.
I love GFE and work hard to make it work. Speaking Spanish dancing bachata. Skills I developed to a decent level. \ Sosua is the Dr capital of sport fucking in the Dr. I get distracted when I am in Sousa. I can not focus on one women for very long. I am constantly looking at the menu for something better. Sd is great for the GFE experience. Nice clubs malls and fun stuff. All I am saying is I keep my sport fucking apart from my GFE.
Oldkool, read this over and over again multiple times until it sinks in, LOL.
If you see a cute camarera you just ask her how much?No, but I would ask her if she wanted to meet for a drink after her shift. Or what day does she have off, so maybe she could meet me on the beach.
I never discuss money during the interview process. If I like her attitude and what she has to say, then I will set a price, if she likes it, fine, if not, just as fine.
In Sosua, having patience is a good thing.
Once they realize you are not a horny tourist and live there it is a totally different ballgame (pretty much works the same when living in any mongering location.) Soon you should be part of the Sosua 500. The guys that live there who not giving those skanks over 500 pesos for a piece of ass.
Quick story. Here in Thailand I always see this chick in the disco (hooker pick-up spot) at night. I have always wanted to hit but never have. One night I woke up at 3 am and decided to go to McDonald's on Beach Road (same as malecon) to get some nuggets and while I was there I would get me a SW to take to the short time hotel. I usually pay the SW $12 for short time so I put that plus the $3 it would cost for the room in my pocket. In another place I hid the 1000 baht bill (equivalent of $30) and would use that to make my purchase at McDonald's.
I was riding down the street on my motorbike in the rain when I spotted the girl I knew from the disco walking. I made a you-turn and asked her where she was going. She said home. I told her to hop on and I would take her. It was only like 2 minutes away. I relayed the idea that I wanted to fuck her and she invited me in and we got busy. The session was top notch. After I finished to a CIM I asked her how much I owed her. She said it was up to me. I broke out the $15 (500 baht) and told her that is all I had. She started laughing and said that she usually gets a minimum of $30. She took it and said that is okay because she knows I live here and I was just going out to get something to eat anyway and not intending to pick someone up to fuck. To top that off, she tried to give me half of the $15 back telling me to use that to buy my food. I played it off and said no, that I would just eat some fruit that I had left in my refrigerator. I left and headed to McDonald's.Cool story E thanks. I have been working towards reducing what I pay. It has been mostly with my regulars though. It is still not where it could be. But I'm working on it. They have to be prepped beforehand by letting them know how much I got for them. More problematic if you try to spring it on them afterwards.
IMO, enough chicas in and around Sosua, even if they know you live there, if they know you only want to pay them a 1000 pesos or less they will pass on the offer because they know they can get more elsewhere. The only way they might accept a huge cut, is if they come to crash at your crib after they have spent the day hustling, and now want a nice place to sleep. Thats not an ideal situation for enough cats. Moreover, if they are even awake after they take a shower, I don't see them doing anything exceptional in the bedroom. They are there to sleep, not service a client. I think the women that will accept less are those that may be more desperate and happy to have a client. You may not see them up in any clubs or bars.
For instance, I do know two women that live near Sosua that will take a 1000 pesos, both are over 40, attractive, but probably would NOT do well up in D'Latins. Even so, they will try to get more out of you after you pay them. Moto money, money for food, or give you some sob story.
I think it's a little different for a dude (in the DR) that does not live in a touristic area. Like I can see a dude living in PP or some small community more successful paying much less for his p4p. But in Sosua most of these chicas know the going rate for ST, and that seems to be what they aim for, no matter what the circumstances. After last night, I can see that getting details up front is still a necessity with many of these chicas. My strategy is moving more towards throwing out the take it or leave it offers and see who bites. More effective with my regulars. Don't expect much drama.
OTOH, regular pros in Sosua? I expect many to decline those offers and look at me as if I was crazy. Or maybe the slickster chicas may act like they accept a low offer but then after you are done they will try to start some drama to try to extort more out of you. And in enough instances the drama they initiate brings a bigger pay day. One thing that seems to be a common denominator. YMMD when dealing with different chicas. You don't know what type of performer you got until you experience her for yourself.
One of my buddies got with the young cute petite, dark brown salon chica that works diagonally across from Rockys restaurant. When she is not doing hair, nails etc, she just sits in a chair wearing large dark sunglasses. Several of us expressed interest in banging this chica. Well my buddy cracked on her. Made an appointment for her to come over to his hotel (Seabreeze ). Once at his place, the sex was whack. She wouldn't even open her legs wide enough so he could get in there. Complained about experiencing some kind of pain. And like many, she didn't do jack to find another way to get him off. He eventually got her dressed and out of there, and paid her less than what they originally agreed to. It was a waste of time and money, and her lack of performance was totally unexpected.
I had a feeling he was going to have a problem with that chica when she was late for her appointment with him. He had arranged ( so he thought ) for her to come to his hotel at 2pm, but she was still sitting outside the salon in her chair staring into space a few minutes after 2. He called me, and I was sitting at Rockys watching her. Told him to call her. He calls, she answers but gave the phone to someone to interpret. In 3 minutes she got up, and was walking down the street towards Seabreeze. After hearing his story, I'm glad I didn't take her. I almost did, but she flaked on me about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I took that as a sign then to leave her alone. But I still wanted to fuck her. My buddy went the more expensive route and found out the hard way that she is a dud (with him ). We had even discussed beforehand that she would probably be an excellent performer in order to get repeat business and new clients. Apparently that business 101 logic didn't apply to her. Like enough chicas, getting that money in the now is their main priority, not building a good rep by providing good service. Although, I would say she did do a decent pedicure on me. And even with that, I wouldn't know if her pedicures were good until after she was done.
SavePros321
02-20-14, 16:00
IMO, enough chicas in and around Sosua, even if they know you live there, if they know you only want to pay them a 1000 pesos or less they will pass on the offer because they know they can get more elsewhere. The only way they might accept a huge cut, is if they come to crash at your crib after they have spent the day hustling, and now want a nice place to sleep. Thats not an ideal situation for enough cats. Moreover, if they are even awake after they take a shower, I don't see them doing anything exceptional in the bedroom. They are there to sleep, not service a client. I think the women that will accept less are those that may be more desperate and happy to have a client. You may not see them up in any clubs or bars.
For instance, I do know two women that live near Sosua that will take a 1000 pesos, both are over 40, attractive, but probably would NOT do well up in D'Latins. Even so, they will try to get more out of you after you pay them. Moto money, money for food, or give you some sob story.This needs to be posted in the Reports of Distiction thread. Wrx2005 has had more time on the ground (like multiple weeks at a time vs guys going down there for a just few days, multiple times a year) in Sosua than most of us combined, and he has only confirmed what I have always suspected.
Now we can put to rest all of these bullshit stories of guys claiming to be banging "dimes" for 800-1000 pesos a pop.
PirateMorgan
02-20-14, 16:21
I live in Sosua. I do not take chicas out of La Rumba or anywhere else. I meet a ton of girls on the street. A girl came to my house from Santo Domingo. I had met the girl on LAC. She stayed the night and we were both bored with each other. No money was asked for nor changed hands. Actually, before she came I told her I was not looking for a play for pay situation. So I took her to the bus the next morning and outside the station door was an 18 year old from Santiago. Stunning. She came home with me for 1000 pesos. There are tons of 1000 pesos girls around who will do anything. And will call you everyday! Being here is an advantage or course. I have met a lot of girls on LAC. None was more than 1500 pesos. Sosua is about sex. Period.
Thats 2 days in a row I had 2 chicas that did CBJ only. The 1st one that I met on the playa did make an attempt to give me a BBBJ but when she tried, it wasnt worth a damn. She was doing that fake suck and jerk move. The 2nd one got to sucking the minute I put the condom on to fuck. I thought she was scared to suck it before the condom. But once i put the condom on she started sucking like she was a pro. However, neither chica was any good at performing BJ's.
I hear / read where some guys point out that you should negotiate up front the services that you want. For instance a BBBJ, not covered. But what good is a negotiation for services if the chica won't or can't perform the deed to your satisfaction? You can negotiate for types of service, but you can't negotiate the type of performance you'll get. You can only offer an incentive. Like repeat business or a propina. But even then, if the chica is no good at it. Whats the point?
In each instance, I ended up having 2 chicas I had good times with before come over to make up for those 2 lackluster chicas. At some point those 2 good performers were unknown to me, until I experienced them for myself. I never negotiated for services, they just turned out to be good / compatible sexually.
My buddy (the one that had the salon chica) he got with a slim Haitian chica that was in front of Rumba. He said his time with her was outstanding. And I know he did NOT negotiate with her for anything, she just happened to be good. And thats just the way it is. YMMD. You don't know what you got until you experience it for yourself. And like some guys here have said. Sometimes the sexiest chicas up in your face, can be the worst lays in terms of performance and attitude. I have experienced quite a few of those. And have better stories with attractive but Plain Jane types enough cats would not pay much attention to.
I kinda miss my SD chica I used to spend time with last year. This chica would suck me (or you) to completion and then afterwards just lay beside me as if she was content in the job she had just done. Plus she had a chilled personality. Since I'm thinking about it, let me see if I can reach her round ass.
I have had my share of chica's tell me no because they wanted more money and would not come down any at all. When this happens I always think to my self they will wish they had of accepted my offer later. I had rather walk away from these chica's then to cave in and accept there outrageous offers and be labeled as a sucker for the rest of my travels to sosua. Most all chica's will come down off of there original offer unless they have already had plenty of dick that day / night. If I can get these chica's for 600-2000 then anyone looking at these boards can do so as well if they try but if you only have limited time it is harder to wait sometimes. I know I usually want to fuck before I ever get checked in a hotel.
I love GFE and work hard to make it work. Speaking Spanish dancing bachata. Skills I developed to a decent level. \ Sosua is the Dr capital of sport fucking in the Dr. I get distracted when I am in Sousa. I can not focus on one women for very long. I am constantly looking at the menu for something better. Sd is great for the GFE experience. Nice clubs malls and fun stuff. All I am saying is I keep my sport fucking apart from my GFE.There is nothing like a mixture of sport fucking and GFE here is Sosua. Some nights I have a wife over and other nights something new!
Thats 2 days in a row I had 2 chicas that did CBJ only. The 1st one that I met on the playa did make an attempt to give me a BBBJ but when she tried, it wasnt worth a damn. She was doing that fake suck and jerk move. The 2nd one got to sucking the minute I put the condom on to fuck. I thought she was scared to suck it before the condom. But once I put the condom on she started sucking like she was a pro. However, neither chica was any good at performing BJ's.
I hear / read where some guys point out that you should negotiate up front the services that you want. For instance a BBBJ, not covered. But what good is a negotiation for services if the chica won't or can't perform the deed to your satisfaction? You can negotiate for types of service, but you can't negotiate the type of performance you'll get. You can only offer an incentive. Like repeat business or a propina. But even then, if the chica is no good at it. Whats the point?Indeed. Once it becomes clear that you are not going to get a satisfactory experience out of the encounter, you may as well just cut it short and pay the girl what was agreed minus any superior performance bonuses and travel reimbursement.
I don't think negotiating specifics up front, like BBBJ is any good, because it makes the whole thing too mechanical. If she is not going to have sex like she is your girl friend, then you have picked the wrong chica in the first place.
There is no foolproof way of avoiding these aborted encounters completely, but with experience one develops a better sense of whether there is enough chemistry, respect, affection, etc. Often the hottest looking girls or the most forward are not the ones who deliver the most.
As far as the BBBJ goes, there are health educators who move among the prostitute population and no doubt advise them to avoid BBBJ for health reasons. Although BJ with a condom is hardly worth having (IMHO) , there is not much point fighting with a chica over it, because if she is not comfortable with BBBJ, she will not do it well.
To some extent in Sosua a guy's reputation may go before him. If he has a reputation for being very demanding, excessively hung, rough in bed, or for example taking forever to climax, chicas may know about this and be less willing to go with him, or ask for an above average reimbursement to discourage him. This is actually the "take-it-or-leave it" offer in reverse.
My conclusion after more than ten years in the DR is that ongoing relationships tend to provide better sex than casual single encounters and that while you can get lucky with them and find some really passionate encounters, especially if you refine your selection process, it is always going to be a bit hit and miss and if it is persistently a miss for you, then you probably need to lower your expectations or develop different strategies.
Camaro1257
02-20-14, 19:45
Indeed. Once it becomes clear that you are not going to get a satisfactory experience out of the encounter, you may as well just cut it short and pay the girl what was agreed minus any superior performance bonuses and travel reimbursement.
I don't think negotiating specifics up front, like BBBJ is any good, because it makes the whole thing too mechanical. If she is not going to have sex like she is your girl friend, then you have picked the wrong chica in the first place.
There is no foolproof way of avoiding these aborted encounters completely, but with experience one develops a better sense of whether there is enough chemistry, respect, affection, etc. Often the hottest looking girls or the most forward are not the ones who deliver the most.
As far as the BBBJ goes, there are health educators who move among the prostitute population and no doubt advise them to avoid BBBJ for health reasons. Although BJ with a condom is hardly worth having (IMHO) , there is not much point fighting with a chica over it, because if she is not comfortable with BBBJ, she will not do it well.
To some extent in Sosua a guy's reputation may go before him. If he has a reputation for being very demanding, excessively hung, rough in bed, or for example taking forever to climax, chicas may know about this and be less willing to go with him, or ask for an above average reimbursement to discourage him. This is actually the "take-it-or-leave it" offer in reverse.
My conclusion after more than ten years in the DR is that ongoing relationships tend to provide better sex than casual single encounters and that while you can get lucky with them and find some really passionate encounters, especially if you refine your selection process, it is always going to be a bit hit and miss and if it is persistently a miss for you, then you probably need to lower your expectations or develop different strategies.Thanks Frannie, this makes absolute sense!
I have had almost no problem getting what I want from the girls. The girls on average go home with no money in their pockets way more then with money. There are 5 times as many girls then guys. They are very motivated to give good service so they can get repeat business if possible. I think guys who consistently have problems are consistently doing something wrong. They are giving a vibe that make the girls uncomfortable. How you pick your chica plays a big roll in how they perform. You got to have some chemistry. I love dancing bachata. I spend time dancing and getting to know my conquest. THIS lowers the fear and tension which relaxes the girls. DR girls are generally very nice people. My first time with most girls I am giving oil massages and using toys with no push back. It is about helping them lower their guard. The same people seem to have the same problems over and over.
Thanks Frannie, this makes absolute sense!
Grown Man I like the way Frannie goes about it. Chat with whomever is your cup of tea that you would like to go with and make them a reasonable "take it or leave it offer:". If they don't accept " su oferta" move on to the next one.That also sounds like a smart move for what he wants to accomplish. Show your hand and make her take it leave. I can never decide off the rip. I hate showing my hand. I like to let her show me hers. Then I play with or against the player. I don't like talking to a lot of chicas. Slow calculation to make her feel special and she does the same- for a special experience. Example: In Boca Chica while walking with Mr. E and friends; a chica walked up to us and went straight at Mr. E. She didn't know him but its was something about him that made her walk between the 5 guys giving know one eye contact or attention but Mr. E. Of course any of us could have paid her, but it was obvious really wanted him. In my opinion, she would have fucked him or gave him a much better experience than any one of us in the group. 3 of 5 chicas I had in BC didn't asked me how much or how long they just wanted my unselective ass to pick them. They accepted what ever I gave them without question (between 1500-2500). All three I repeated because of the quality of service they gave. I kinda let their actions dictate my tone and choices. For me its not about fucking the sexiest chica all the time. Most of these chicas felt special when I submitted my attention to them because they didn't observe me in a lot of chica faces. Wrx 2005 was dead on point about sexual compatibility. I want her there not just because she is going to get paid, but also because we have a special vibe to enhance our experience. That why I like chicas on DC- they are not the sexiest in DR, but when you have connected to one and developed a vibe; she is more likely come visit you, stay as long as you allow her, give you a good experience costing you the same amount of money as the street walker would have with half the problems.
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