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SavePros321
02-21-14, 05:11
Sosua is about sex. Period.Wrong! Sosua is about money. Period. Show up there without it (money) and see how much sex you'll be having, LOL.
I love GFE and work hard to make it work. Speaking Spanish dancing bachata. Skills I developed to a decent level. \ Sosua is the Dr capital of sport fucking in the Dr. I get distracted when I am in Sousa. I can not focus on one women for very long. I am constantly looking at the menu for something better. Sd is great for the GFE experience. Nice clubs malls and fun stuff. All I am saying is I keep my sport fucking apart from my GFE.I agree with you Oldkool but you are in SD, Sosua, PC and other areas. For someone who is based primarily in Sosua for a couple of weeks or more, the need to import there is wanted for change up. Imagine being in Sosua seeing and dealing with the same streetwalkers for a couple of weeks. BORING and irritating. I say a man should do a little importing here and there. It seems from a few on ground reports the SW chicas are getting besides themselves. I few imports may shake out some appreciation and adjustment of attitudes. No. It might not be the ideal location like SD for GFE but it sure is a welcomed change of pace!
Wrong! Sosua is about money. Period. Show up there without it (money) and see how much sex you'll be having, LOL.I second that! It about spending your money!
Ipanema Carioca
02-21-14, 09:22
In Sosua, avoid a girl named Maoly! Kinda tall, pretty, light skin Asian eyes, tongue pierces and freckles. Can't fuck and runs for the door after a short time. I found out she is band at Victorian House by security Freddy, who is head security there and D'Latin Bar. She can't get into clubs and you will see her in front of D'Latin. She has two sisters who work Sosua as well, and one's name is Franchesca, who's similar in face but browner.
Indeed. Once it becomes clear that you are not going to get a satisfactory experience out of the encounter, you may as well just cut it short and pay the girl what was agreed minus any superior performance bonuses and travel reimbursement.
I don't think negotiating specifics up front, like BBBJ is any good, because it makes the whole thing too mechanical. If she is not going to have sex like she is your girl friend, then you have picked the wrong chica in the first place.
There is no foolproof way of avoiding these aborted encounters completely, but with experience one develops a better sense of whether there is enough chemistry, respect, affection, etc. Often the hottest looking girls or the most forward are not the ones who deliver the most.
As far as the BBBJ goes, there are health educators who move among the prostitute population and no doubt advise them to avoid BBBJ for health reasons. Although BJ with a condom is hardly worth having (IMHO) , there is not much point fighting with a chica over it, because if she is not comfortable with BBBJ, she will not do it well.
To some extent in Sosua a guy's reputation may go before him. If he has a reputation for being very demanding, excessively hung, rough in bed, or for example taking forever to climax, chicas may know about this and be less willing to go with him, or ask for an above average reimbursement to discourage him. This is actually the "take-it-or-leave it" offer in reverse.
My conclusion after more than ten years in the DR is that ongoing relationships tend to provide better sex than casual single encounters and that while you can get lucky with them and find some really passionate encounters, especially if you refine your selection process, it is always going to be a bit hit and miss and if it is persistently a miss for you, then you probably need to lower your expectations or develop different strategies.What you provided for those that need it could be a sticky too!
In Sosua, avoid a girl named Maoly! Kinda tall, pretty, light skin Asian eyes, tongue pierces and freckles. Can't fuck and runs for the door after a short time. I found out she is band at Victorian House by security Freddy, who is head security there and D'Latin Bar. She can't get into clubs and you will see her in front of D'Latin. She has two sisters who work Sosua as well, and one's name is Franchesca, who's similar in face but browner.Is this the same chica?
I think guys who consistently have problems are consistently doing something wrong. They are giving a vibe that make the girls uncomfortable. How you pick your chica plays a big roll in how they perform. You got to have some chemistry. I love dancing bachata.Let me explain how your statement maybe somewhat flawed. The one where you say, you think guys who "consistently" have problems are "consistently" doing something wrong. How do you determine whether a guy has consistent problems or he is the one doing something wrong if there is a problem with chicas? Define problem?
Moreover, check this out. And this is where your statement bores holes. When those same guys also have consistent good experiences with other chicas, and those other chicas were comfortable and had good vibes with those guys, shouldn't that register to you or at least to the average person with some intelligence that guys don't necessarily have to be doing anything consistently wrong with chicas to have problems?
Guys are consistently dealing with all types of chicas. Some are good / compatible and some are not. When guys consistently have good experiences with other chicas, do you also acknowledge and count those experiences too? Do you stop yourself to think that maybe it just might be the chicas are a problem and not the guys doing something consistently wrong? Or do you only focus on the bad experiences guys have, ignore the good ones, and charge it only to the guys bringing on the problems?
Or perhaps you are talking about the guys you know that DO have consistent problems with chicas, and no good experiences? Please advise. How you came up with your conclusion?
And if you are using a forum like this to judge what guys here post of their experiences, that may be another flaw in judgement. Because a guy may consistently give reports of distinction in order to inform and educate, rather than being focused on providing a balance to avoid the onslaught of judgmental individuals who consistently look for opportunities to see mongers as the cause of problems. You appear to excuse chicas behavior and justify it moreso than hold them accountable for any of their own behavior. Why is that?
You have to understand something. You post what you do with chicas as if what you do is a recommendation for others guys to follow. And thats cool for those that may need / want a suggestion. However, how you operate is what works for you. Many guys are not going to be putting in all that time and money into luring chicas the way you do. And for the most part, I'm sure enough guys are having their own great experiences operating their own way. I will share another great experience in my next report.
One last point. When a dude picks a chica, there may not be time to determine whether there is chemistry or not. Many dudes here will tell you. They didn't know they had chemistry with the chica until after they spent time with them, not just upon meeting them. Point being. You can pick a chica within seconds and have a great ass experience and have no clue if you have chemistry with that individual. Conversely, you can do the same and have a bad experience with a chica after spending an hour talking and positive vibing, but once in the bedroom she turns into a dud, or she flips and becomes all business. You come off as if you don't make allowances for the fact that many of these chicas are acting and feigning, and not always representing their true selves. These chicas can adjust to whatever a guy represents to her in order to appeal to the illusion he is looking for from her.
You dont seem to take stuff that into consideration but would rather assume it has to be the guys that are consistently doing something wrong, giving off bad vibes and making chicas uncomfortable. Yeah, the guy gave off a bad vibe to make the chica so uncomfortable that she felt the need to steal his phone charger. Or caused her to be a dud in bed or caused her to pickpocket him up in D'Latins.
Thats 2 days in a row I had 2 chicas that did CBJ only.Thanks for the on the ground reporting. I'm glad I got to enjoy Sosua back when this was never an issue.
Ipanema Carioca
02-21-14, 14:33
Is this the same chica?The girl you posted is a different girl.
Was chillin at the playa yesterday, when later in the afternoon a chica I know that works on a restaurant on the beach stopped by my table to say hello. She asked to use my phone to call her amiga who she introduced to me last night at Rumba. The GF was fine, with a nice body. A little shy but could be considered an 7/8. I had the previous appointment with the other chica so I only took her number. Later while standing outside, she walked by towards D'Latins. Her ass was round and delicious in those leopard print spandex pants.
At the time, I said oh well, maybe later. Well now, the Rest chica uses my phone to call her GF and tell her to come to Sosua for me. At that moment, I said damn, thats cool. Chica helping me out here. But in order for that chica to get to Sosua it was going to take a couple of hours. And I don't feel like waiting for some chica to show up. Thats not a good position to be in. Especially if you decide to roll up in Rumbas and spot somebody else.
The rest chica told me my friend didn't seem to like her when he was sitting next to her last night at Rumba. I said he was probably expecting someone. I told her I like her. That she was a nice chica (I was vibing with her wink wink ). My mind thinks for a minute. Why wait for her friend to come? Just take her ( rest chica ). She couldn't wait to call the chica back to tell her not to come. I don't think the chica even hit the shower yet. So it was a good move for me. BTW when the friend asked why she didn't have to come, the rest chica told her she didn't know. But she knew. We left the playa, stopped for food, and then off to my place.
In bed this chica and I hit it off as if we were made to fuck each other. Great BBBJ skills. I told her next time, I want to leche in her boca, to which she said simply "ok". Later about 2am the chica is cuddled up next to me, but apparently feeling horny again because I reached between her legs to find a puddle of juice there. She instantly found me getting aroused too, to which she pushed me over to suck me for a few minutes and eventually go for another round. So like I said earlier.
YMMD ( your mileage may differ ) depending on the chica you get with. I didn't know we would be compatible in and out of bed. I didn't know she was or wasnt a thief or some crazy chica. It was just happened to be a great connection. Hopefully when it comes to her friend she won't have a problem with us getting together?
I guess I should be charged for the bad vibes I created. Making that chica so uncomfortable that she chose to lie to her friend so she could get the benefits last night? That chica definitely deserves more business. Her girlfriend? Who knows? She may look good, but maybe a dud. Hopefully I get to find out. To be continued.
The girl you posted is a different girl.I know the girl I posted is her younger sister Fran or aka Isabel. My man T dealt with your girl in Dec and last month for 3 days of the GFE. They hit it off and T is a very over average dude. He did complained that she couldn't take it like she did the first two nights. I scene his video on her and she was taking it well. T left his money and valuables laying around her. No problems! You are right she is ban from the clubs so is her sister. She is well known for fighting and kicking chicas asses. Sounds like she did to you what her sister did to T. I posted about his episode with her sister earlier last month. I had great times with her sister but T didn't.
I agree with you Oldkool but you are in SD, Sosua, PC and other areas. For someone who is based primarily in Sosua for a couple of weeks or more, the need to import there is wanted for change up. Imagine being in Sosua seeing and dealing with the same streetwalkers for a couple of weeks. BORING and irritating. I say a man should do a little importing here and there. It seems from a few on ground reports the SW chicas are getting besides themselves. I few imports may shake out some appreciation and adjustment of attitudes. No. It might not be the ideal location like SD for GFE but it sure is a welcomed change of pace!Been here almost three weeks now and bringing in the wives from Puerto Plata some nights and pulling them off the Strip is working well for me.
I think guys who consistently have problems are consistently doing something wrong. They are giving a vibe that make the girls uncomfortable. How you pick your chica plays a big roll in how they perform. You got to have some chemistry. .I agree with you Olk. If you keep getting pick pocketed its not the pick pocket fault you came until there world. There is a high correlation of consistently bad results with ones decision making. One will never know the experience he will get from a chica until afterwards. You will never know the problems a particular car will have until after you get it, however, understanding the models, the car, what you want, and using a good decision making process and can save you from common problems. If the dealers keeps over pricing you, giving high interests rates, not respecting your business. Yes the dealer have some blame, however, the man in the mirror is the first person I will question. Example: Mr Gogo (an international vet) said in BC when he realized he picked a dud, the first thing he did after he got rid of her ass is REPLAYED the situation in his mind to see where or if HE slipped in the game just in case adjustments are need.
I agree with you Olk. If you keep getting pick pocketed its not the pick pocket fault you came until there world. There is a high correlation of consistently bad results with ones decision making. One will never know the experience he will get from a chica until afterwards. You will never know the problems a particular car will have until after you get it, however, understanding the models, the car, what you want, and using a good decision making process and can save you from common problems. If the dealers keeps over pricing you, giving high interests rates, not respecting your business. Yes the dealer have some blame, however, the man in the mirror is the first person I will question. Example: Mr Gogo (an international vet) said in BC when he realized he picked a dud, the first thing he did after he got rid of her ass is REPLAYED the situation in his mind to see where or if HE slipped in the game just in case adjustments are need.I believe I understand the correlations you are making. But please explain why you believe a person is to blame for somebody elses behavior? The pick pockets job is to pick pockets. The car dealers job is to sell cars, potentially as high as is possible.
If a pick pocket keeps picking pockets or a car dealer keeps trying to over price people or offer them high interest rates etc, that doesn't mean whoever they target has done something wrong or they need to look in the mirror. The people you describe, they don't discriminate from who they attempt to target. Thats the nature of their occupation. They'll attempt to do it to anybody. In fact, I'm sure in some instances they pride themselves on going after targets that think they can't get got.
Surely it is not the pickpockets fault one came into their world. But that is not even an issue nor would anybody dispute that. Now, how many times does one need to be pick pocketed before they qualify for needing to look in the mirror? Suppose a dude keeps getting pick pocketed but the thieves don't get anything to steal because he doesn't bring anything for them to steal or he has it hidden? Does that mean the individual needs to look in the mirror?
I don't know or have heard many stories of one individual who keeps getting pick pocketed and the thieves are enriched in each instance? The situation can be about something other than dealing with a pick pocket. How about stuff being stolen from ones safe? Does a guest need to look in the mirror if stuff is stolen from his safe, especially if it happened at more than one hotel? If a guy has his luggage misplaced by the airline consistently, does that mean he needs to look in the mirror too?
My point is. Behavior, poor service, incompetence, theft, deception etc from others does not necessarily equate to an individuals fault and assume they have a problem or are doing something wrong. I have said once, and will continue to say it. Each situation that occurs needs to be evaluated on it's own merits and circumstances to determine where fault lies. But just to draw conclusions that something that has happened to an individual a few times means the person has done something wrong, I don't see it. How about all of the times a guy hasnt been pick pocketed or didn't get dogged at the dealership? Does that mean the individual did something right? If it works in one instance it should work when you apply it to ones positive or uneventful circumstances. But somehow those positive instances don't seem to be included in order to determine where true fault or culpability may lie in the overall scheme of cause and effect.
I forgot to mention in my previous report about one of the chicas I had the other night. At the very beginning of the night, she claimed there was something wrong with her phone, so she gave me her GF's number in order to contact her.
When this chica and I were together, she showed me a phone that would not respond to the touch screen. I figured then, I would hear more about her phone woes later. And like clockwork, she brought up the phone again right after I paid her. She put on a pretty good performance too. She was pouting and pleading for me to give her more money to get her phone repaired. I deflected and declined consistently enough until she gave up, and I dropped her ass off by D'Latins.
Here's my take on the issue which hopefully others may consider. 1st off she strolls with a chica that is probably her teacher / mentor. I knew that going in. This chica seems like she was rehearsed.
2nd, the fucked up phone could easily have been a prop phone. Meaning a broken phone used to bait a guy into buying a phone or in this case to get a guy to give her money. Either way she can sell the phone you buy, say it was stolen. Or in the case of fixing the phone, say they didn't fix it, or she didn't get it back yet. And quite naturally, she may have a perfectly working galaxy, iphone, or some other working phone instead of that "bait" phone.
I didnt buy no phone, nor did I give her extra money. I just dropped her cute ass off.
Side note!
From a "consistent" standpoint, one can say I consistently see chicas trying their schemes towards me, but by the same token, I have consistently had chicas who I have had no issues or problems from them. In either case, I didn't do anything particularly right or wrong on my end. Whatever happened or didn't happen was the result of the type of chicas I was involved with. In both instances, I picked them. So, is a dude responsible for the good and the bad that chicas bring to his doorstep, or is he responsible only for the bad chicas / experiences?
My buddy from Southern California arrived on Tuesday and I wanted to share some of his observations, and mine of my buddy as this being his first time here. We are both Tijuana, Mexico regulars just about every weekend and I explained to him that this was a very different place. We are used to dealing with rateros, crooked cops, drug dealers, hustlers, and Chicas with slash / burn marks and tatoos in Tijuana. Upon arrival I gave a him a tour of the Strip and he was surprised by all the Dominican men on the street corners shouting "Change" over and over again followed by them hawking Viagra for sale. Kind of makes sense when you think about it, you need Pesos to pay the Putas and then a hard-on to bang them. You would think they also would be selling condoms too.
We stopped at the bar directly across the street from Rumbas around 5 PM, sat at one of the tables and ordered some soda pops and watched the parade of Putas up and down the street and in and out of Rumbas. He couldn't believe the variety of Chicas from black to white, thick and thin, and all the big booty's. He was also surprised as to how well the Chicas dressed. We both agreed that the women in Tijuana are dogs compared to the women here in Sosua. I then took him into the Voodo lounge (Bar Central) and explained to him that inside and directly out front of Bar Central is "Haiti Central". After about an an hour and half he made is first selection which was a very tall / thin dark Dominican. Since it was early I told him to just offer 1, 000 pesos and start from there. The Chica said okay but wanted 1, 500 Pesos if she did a good job. My buddy informed me afterwards that he was in awe of this one having two kids, having a killer body with no stretch marks, and being tight as a drum and gave her 1, 500 Pesos. He also told me this was the darkest girl he had ever been with and it was very good. With that remark I sensed something was up with him. Later that evening after dinner we hit the Strip again and this time he went with a Haitian who was very dark, almost purple who was hanging out in front of Bar Central. I was informed in the morning that he might be going black while in Sosua and not coming back.
I believe I understand the correlations you are making. But please explain why you believe a person is to blame for somebody elses behavior? The pick pockets job is to pick pockets. The car dealers job is to sell cars, potentially as high as is possible.
{So now YOU know about the pick pockets and the car dealer and YOU find Yourself consistently being victimized. Check- before you wreck- yourself}
If a pick pocket keeps picking pockets or a car dealer keeps trying to over price people or offer them high interest rates etc, that doesn't mean whoever they target has done something wrong or they need to look in the mirror. The people you describe, they don't discriminate from who they attempt to target. Thats the nature of their occupation. They'll attempt to do it to anybody. In fact, I'm sure in some instances they pride themselves on going after targets that think they can't get got.
{ I disagree. You don't think a pick pockets would target a known Police Officer do you. That's so much better than some American in a club. Do you think they will target the sober little guy or the big passed out man of the floor. The chica with skin tight jeans or the one with very loose cargo pockets. }
Surely it is not the pickpockets fault one came into their world. But that is not even an issue nor would anybody dispute that. Now, how many times does one need to be pick pocketed before they qualify for needing to look in the mirror? Suppose a dude keeps getting pick pocketed but the thieves don't get anything to steal because he doesn't bring anything for them to steal or he has it hidden? Does that mean the individual needs to look in the mirror?
{1. That's on the individual. 2. Yes I hope he asked himself what I need to do the stop this change my environment, how or where I hide my money? }
I don't know or have heard many stories of one individual who keeps getting pick pocketed and the thieves are enriched in each instance? The situation can be about something other than dealing with a pick pocket. How about stuff being stolen from ones safe? Does a guest need to look in the mirror if stuff is stolen from his safe, especially if it happened at more than one hotel? If a guy has his luggage misplaced by the airline consistently, does that mean he needs to look in the mirror too?
{ Hell yeah! I would start checking myself on the safes I pick to place my money, hotels I'm choosing and the airline I'm flying. }
My point is. Behavior, poor service, incompetence, theft, deception etc from others does not necessarily equate to an individuals fault and assume they have a problem or are doing something wrong. I have said once, and will continue to say it. Each situation that occurs needs to be evaluated on it's own merits and circumstances to determine where fault lies. But just to draw conclusions that something that has happened to an individual a few times means the person has done something wrong.{ You know I respected your point, but if I consistently find myself the victim of these acts of others (sing)"Starting with the at the man in the mirror!". If I consistently myself a victim of DR chicas hard life crisis, consistently find myself with a different chica back in the WU line, and I have a problem with that. I think I am consistently doing something wrong (sing)" Asking him to change his ways". I don't know how many is a few times but if its considered consistent. "There is a high correlation of consistently bad results with ones decision making". PS First round on me in Sosua! }
Camaro1257
02-22-14, 01:29
I was informed in the morning that he might be going black while in Sosua and not coming back.It's all pink inside. ROTFL!
I forgot to mention in my previous report about one of the chicas I had the other night. At the very beginning of the night, she claimed there was something wrong with her phone, so she gave me her GF's number in order to contact her.
When this chica and I were together, she showed me a phone that would not respond to the touch screen. I figured then, I would hear more about her phone woes later. And like clockwork, she brought up the phone again right after I paid her. She put on a pretty good performance too. She was pouting and pleading for me to give her more money to get her phone repaired. I deflected and declined consistently enough until she gave up, and I dropped her ass off by D'Latins.
Here's my take on the issue which hopefully others may consider. 1st off she strolls with a chica that is probably her teacher / mentor. I knew that going in. This chica seems like she was rehearsed.
2nd, the fucked up phone could easily have been a prop phone. Meaning a broken phone used to bait a guy into buying a phone or in this case to get a guy to give her money. Either way she can sell the phone you buy, say it was stolen. Or in the case of fixing the phone, say they didn't fix it, or she didn't get it back yet. And quite naturally, she may have a perfectly working galaxy, iphone, or some other working phone instead of that "bait" phone.
I didn't buy no phone, nor did I give her extra money. I just dropped her cute ass off.
Side note!
From a "consistent" standpoint, one can say I consistently see chicas trying their schemes towards me, but by the same token, I have consistently had chicas who I have had no issues or problems from them. In either case, I didn't do anything particularly right or wrong on my end. Whatever happened or didn't happen was the result of the type of chicas I was involved with. In both instances, I picked them. So, is a dude responsible for the good and the bad that chicas bring to his doorstep, or is he responsible only for the bad chicas / experiences?Did you know you used the pronoun I over 21 tiempos. LOL the I's have control. You knew what was coming. You chose to continue. You handled the situation thankfully so. So many of us through in the towel. I have myself. No money but an item of value. After I thought about it. I got mad at myself. How much was she asking for and if you don't mind lo mucho que le dio.
He also told me this was the darkest girl he had ever been with and it was very good. With that remark I sensed something was up with him. Later that evening after dinner we hit the Strip again and this time he went with a Haitian who was very dark, almost purple who was hanging out in front of Bar Central. I was informed in the morning that he might be going black while in Sosua and not coming back.So you gave him the red pill! Some friend you are.
I didn't buy no phone, nor did I give her extra money. I just dropped her cute ass off.
Side note!
From a "consistent" standpoint, one can say I consistently see chicas trying their schemes towards me, but by the same token, I have consistently had chicas who I have had no issues or problems from them. In either case, I didn't do anything particularly right or wrong on my end. Whatever happened or didn't happen was the result of the type of chicas I was involved with. In both instances, I picked them. So, is a dude responsible for the good and the bad that chicas bring to his doorstep, or is he responsible only for the bad chicas / experiences?Jolly good! And how much was the chica actually asking for to repair the phone? Did she or you get an estimate for the repair. Usually these things don't cost more than 500 pesos in the DR. Or you can buy a simple replacement phone for about $10. I have had my $10 Orange Alcatel phone for about 3 years and it still works.
Anyway it is disgraceful that these bad chicas are getting rich at the expense of noble hard working mongers and buying phones with cameras and Facebook. They ought to have a salary cap like in the NFL-no more than 1000 pesos for 24 hours and a weekend in jail any time a monger reports them to the Tourist Police for underperformance, refusing BBBJ, not orgasming, etc.
Upon arrival I gave a him a tour of the Strip and he was surprised by all the Dominican men on the street corners shouting "Change" over and over again followed by them hawking Viagra for sale.There are just a few guys on a couple of street corners who do it and the same guys have been doing it for years. They try to sell the generic Viagra at a 500% mark up, but I doubt if there is the same margin on condoms.
I so often think we take Sosua for granite. See through your friends home what a gift Sosua is. The quantity and variety of women is amazing. If you have any skills with women you can write your own ticket. Sosua is not perfect but for the price it is very hard to beat.
[QUOTE=Surfer500; 1534952]My buddy from Southern California arrived on Tuesday and I wanted to share some of his observations, and mine of my buddy as this being his first time here. We are both Tijuana, Mexico regulars just about every weekend and I explained to him that this was a very different place. We are used to dealing with rateros, crooked cops, drug dealers, hustlers, and Chicas with slash / burn marks and tatoos in Tijuana. Upon arrival I gave a him a tour of the Strip and he was surprised by all the Dominican men on the street corners shouting "Change" over and over again followed by them hawking Viagra for sale. Kind of makes sense when you think about it, you need Pesos to pay the Putas and then a hard-on to bang them. You would think they also would be selling condoms too.
Ipanema Carioca
02-22-14, 07:45
I know the girl I posted is her younger sister Fran or aka Isabel.You know, if you go to Sosua a lot you're going to eventually get an asshole. She will eventually create a bad situation for her self that only a few fellas will take her or her sister. I was in Sosua last December and I'm leaving Saturday afternoon after 10 days. I got the word out on her ass already. By the time I'm finished with her rep, she won't even get picked for a cookie fight.
{ You know I respected your point, but if I consistently find myself the victim of these acts of others (sing)"Starting with the at the man in the mirror!". If I consistently myself a victim of DR chicas hard life crisis, consistently find myself with a different chica back in the WU line, and I have a problem with that. I think I am consistently doing something wrong (sing)" Asking him to change his ways". I don't know how many is a few times but if its considered consistent. "There is a high correlation of consistently bad results with ones decision making". PS First round on me in Sosua! }I do not have a problem with an individual who recognizes he made mistakes, and thus created an environment to be victimized. What I have a problem with is seeing individuals lumping individuals altogether, and trying to conclude, suggest or imply that consistent negative behavior from chicas means someone is a consistent victim. And that it consequently means they must be doing something wrong to attract consistent negative behavior from chicas. I'm saying that premise and perspective is false. Thats the main issue I am addressing.
Did you know you used the pronoun I over 21 tiempos. LOL the I's have control. You knew what was coming. You chose to continue. You handled the situation thankfully so. So many of us through in the towel. I have myself. No money but an item of value. After I thought about it. I got mad at myself. How much was she asking for and if you don't mind lo mucho que le dio.On those I's? As long as my POV got across, I hope thats what matters most? I chose to continue, yes. And for the most part, the juice was good. But to be clear, my choice to continue and her aiming to get more money doesn't make me a victim nor does it indicate a consistent shortcoming on my part because I experienced another chica trying to get over. She was just doing her job, and I did my job to keep my money in my pocket where it belongs.
I don't believe she mentioned the cost to repair. I wasnt trying to entertain that BS. I don't think the amount was that important, she was just focused on having me believe I should help her as if we had some kind of positive vibe / connection. She played that GFE role quite well. We danced and drank together up in my spot. You would have thought she was going to be cooking for me or us spending a lot of time together. That was the way it was until the show was over. After paying her, she started making her spiel about giving her more money to help her get her phone repaired. By sharing this story, my concern is for guys that need it to realize that many of these chicas have other chicas helping them and teaching them some schemes and techniques in order to get more out of a client than the p4p agreement.
Jolly good! And how much was the chica actually asking for to repair the phone? Did she or you get an estimate for the repair. Usually these things don't cost more than 500 pesos in the DR. Or you can buy a simple replacement phone for about $10. I have had my $10 Orange Alcatel phone for about 3 years and it still works.
Anyway it is disgraceful that these bad chicas are getting rich at the expense of noble hard working mongers and buying phones with cameras and Facebook. They ought to have a salary cap like in the NFL-no more than 1000 pesos for 24 hours and a weekend in jail any time a monger reports them to the Tourist Police for underperformance, refusing BBBJ, not orgasming, etc.Ya know if the chica tried to please me in every way while we were engaged sexually, she might have given me room to entertain the thought. But this mofo didn't do jack to deserve more money. Certainly didn't deserve a tip for her lackluster performance. Saw her tonight in D'Latins. She was sexy for sure. But knowing what I know, she would be a waste of time for probably most guys.
Hooked up with the sexy chica I was supposed to be with last night. Instead I got with her attractive but average looking amiga. Had a good time with the average restaurant on the playa chica. Saw her today. She was all up on me after she finished work. Couldn't shake her, so she went with me and my friends to the supermercado. My intention was to drop her off because I had a date with her sexy friend.
After we left the Playero, the rest. Chica says she's taking a taxi home to Cabarete. It's 6:42pm. I'm supposed to get together with her sexy friend at 7. I dropped the chica off at the taxi stand across from the Metro station. I'm thinking she is on her way home. I turn down Pedro Clisante and stop my car at Terra Linda to let one of my buddies off. The sexy chica calls me. I thought damn, she's early. She said I'm at Rumba. I said bet, come outside by the taxi stand, and I will pick you up.
Just to back up a bit. The average rest. Chica asked me in the store if we could get together again because she needs the money for her bambinos. She was trying to be discreet about it, because one of my buddies was standing close by. At 1st I thought she was trying to ask me for money straight up, to which I was about to decline. But she wanted to earn her keep by spending time with me. However I told her earlier that we can get together another night. My mind was on her sexy friend who was coming to Sosua.
So, like I said, I dropped off the rest. Chica, the sexy chica calls, and I drive around the block so I can pick her up at the taxi stand on the corner from Rumba. When I turned down Dr Rosen who do I spot in Rumbas parking lot? The average rest. Chica who I just dropped off at the taxi stand. That mugg wasnt going home. She just said she was going home. She saw my car come down the street and tried to hide But she was busted. Meanwhile when I got to the intersection PC and Dr Rosen, the sexy chica was on the corner. I motioned for her to get in, and we were off.
The rest chica had to have spotted her friend get in the car. Maybe she was angry, hurt or disappointed. But whatever it was, that was their problem. The sexy chica was getting revenge whether she knew it or not.
Now back at the spot. Get right to the point. Once she was "off" of those platform shoes, she was a shorty. Had a padded bra that was hiding these itty bitty titties. That round ass? It was nice, but suddenly she looked like a young girl. Them damn high platform shoes does wonders towards a chicas sexy image. But once off, all you got is a plain jane chica.
No sex. The chica was a total waste of time. The only thing she did good was drink beer and use my tablet. About 1am I told her she might as well go to D'Latins or something. She said she didn't want to go to the disco. But could I give her some money. I was happy it was going to be over soon. I paid her and dropped her off at the taxi stand. I went to D'Latins, checked out the talent, and decided to call it a night. I was a little jaded after dealing with sexy. I looked at just about every sexy chica up in D'Latins as potentially being nothing more than eye candy but not worth the time or the effort.
Saw a cute Haitian chica in D'Latins who I was with last year. She performed well. But I also recalled how her appearance transformed from a sexy petite diva to a short runt with hard hands, flatter ass than when I got her, and itty bitty titties hidden within one of those padded bras.
Drove down PC and stopped at Tipico Bar Rest. A bunch of Haitian chicas up in there. A couple with really nice asses. I was talking to one. Said she works there. Basically eye candy for the patrons. I was trying to see if we could hook up. But once the bar closed she went over to her esposa. It was another Haitian chica. It suddenly became apparent many of these chicas were GF's of each other. When I talked about hooking up with the one chica, she quickly wanted to know how much I would pay.
Needless to say, I aborted that mission and went home. Saved some leche and dinero.
Good post Wrx2005. In our sport sometimes we have such good luck most of the time that we don't know how to sign off on a bad night and live to fuck another day. I did a post about this in the AC forum where things werent working out as smooth as all the previous nights, so I headed home wondering if it was a full moon or something. I was cool going home alone because it was one bad night amongst several great nights. But no, right in front of my hotel is this little fine chica and I'm thinking its a new day early surprise. The sex was average (I would later have a threesome with her and her lesbian friend) , but I should have gone to bed alone and saved that 1000p.
You sensed that the night was bad and checked it off and waited for another day to play. I salute you for that and posting about it.
Good post Wrx2005. In our sport sometimes we have such good luck most of the time that we don't know how to sign off on a bad night and live to fuck another day. I did a post about this in the AC forum where things werent working out as smooth as all the previous nights, so I headed home wondering if it was a full moon or something. I was cool going home alone because it was one bad night amongst several great nights. But no, right in front of my hotel is this little fine chica and I'm thinking its a new day early surprise. The sex was average (I would later have a threesome with her and her lesbian friend) , but I should have gone to bed alone and saved that 1000p.
You sensed that the night was bad and checked it off and waited for another day to play. I salute you for that and posting about it.Thanks for the acknowledgement. When I reflect on how yesterday went, I think everything went quite well.
By going with the restaurant chica 1st, instead of her sexy friend, I ended up having a pretty good night. It was a wise choice, to go with the bird in my hand, instead of the one in the Bush. The next night was exploratory. And what I got from the sexy diva was really no surprise. A glamorous package, but no substance. In addition, the restaurant chica witnessed 1st hand that she can be replaced in an instant.
Another positive, is that I hardly ever stay out late to go to D'Latins, so for me to go back there that late, my friends would have been impressed. In fact, many of them were already gone. Then later I went to another local bar near Passions, to explore there. That was another harmless adventure. And then to top it off, I end up going home alone without any drama. That was actually a pretty good night, and sequence of events.
So, like I said, I dropped off the rest. Chica, the sexy chica calls, and I drive around the block so I can pick her up at the taxi stand on the corner from Rumba. When I turned down Dr Rosen who do I spot in Rumbas parking lot? The average rest. Chica who I just dropped off at the taxi stand. That mugg wasnt going home. She just said she was going home. She saw my car come down the street and tried to hide But she was busted. Meanwhile when I got to the intersection PC and Dr Rosen, the sexy chica was on the corner. I motioned for her to get in, and we were off.
{ That's understandable she did say she needed money, she couldn't get it home or from you that night. My last trip I seen a waitress I knocked off from BC working in Sosua. She was shock to see me but I but her at ease. I understand you got to do what you got to do }
No sex. The chica was a total waste of time. The only thing she did good was drink beer and use my tablet. About 1am I told her she might as well go to D'Latins or something. She said she didn't want to go to the disco. But could I give her some money. I was happy it was going to be over soon. I paid her and dropped her off at the taxi stand. I went to D'Latins, checked out the talent, and decided to call it a night. I was a little jaded after dealing with sexy. I looked at just about every sexy chica up in D'Latins as potentially being nothing more than eye candy but not worth the time or the effort.
{ No sex! I bet she didn't want to go to the club! She had all the beer and internet she needed in your room. I know you don't talk about it; but I was wondering how much you paid her for wasting your time? }
Drove down PC and stopped at Tipico Bar Rest. A bunch of Haitian chicas up in there. A couple with really nice asses. I was talking to one. Said she works there. Basically eye candy for the patrons. I was trying to see if we could hook up. But once the bar closed she went over to her esposa. It was another Haitian chica. It suddenly became apparent many of these chicas were GF's of each other. When I talked about hooking up with the one chica, she quickly wanted to know how much I would pay.
Needless to say, I aborted that mission and went home. Saved some leche and dinero.Why didn't you settle with the "quickly how much" chica? Did you gut tell you she may have been a mechanical lay. I hate taking 2 loses in a day. After a dud; I quickly go out looking for a special chica that looks like she can take a pounding- to relieve my frustration and leche build up! You have more time so I commend you on your patiences.
Why didn't you settle with the "quickly how much" chica? Did you gut tell you she may have been a mechanical lay. I hate taking 2 loses in a day. After a dud; I quickly go out looking for a special chica that looks like she can take a pounding- to relieve my frustration and leche build up! You have more time so I commend you on your patiences.I don't consider those experiences actual losses or bad experiences. Only minor dissapointments. I charge those experiences to it being the nature of the game. It is what it is.
I gave the chica 1500 pesos. And she accepted it with no problem and apologized. She was with me from 7 to 1. I got a massage, a session of DATY, and NO DRAMA. A dude at a strip club in the states would have considered himself well compensated. Going the distance would have made the night more enjoyable.
The Haitian chica at the bar had her esposa there at the bar. A harder looking haitian chica. I wasnt interested in pursuing her for a quick hit, just to put money in her pocket. I prefer to deal with chicas that are attracted to and mainly into men.
I know the girl I posted is her younger sister Fran or aka Isabel. My man T dealt with your girl in Dec and last month for 3 days of the GFE. They hit it off and T is a very over average dude. He did complained that she couldn't take it like she did the first two nights. I scene his video on her and she was taking it well. T left his money and valuables laying around her. No problems! You are right she is ban from the clubs so is her sister. She is well known for fighting and kicking chicas asses. Sounds like she did to you what her sister did to T. I posted about his episode with her sister earlier last month. I had great times with her sister but T didn't.I've been dealing with Isabel (the girl in the pic) for at least 2 yrs. She is a very sexy Chica when she puts on her nice clothes. Back in the beginning of the month she got mad with me though because I wouldn't take her, but other than that she is a "real freak" in la cama. I've seen her sister the tall lighter skinned one with a dude a couple of weeks ago for a couple of days, so she must have been a cool Chica. As far as her older sister, I've met her but have never taken her. When I hit town I always start out with Isabel because I know what's on the menu. Peace.
SavePros321
02-22-14, 17:56
I got the word out on her ass already. By the time I'm finished with her rep, she won't even get picked for a cookie fight.Not true for two reasons:
1) A fresh batch of mongers roll into Sosua every week, and the mongers currently in Sosua that are hip to her game roll out. So every week she will find a fresh new batch of suckers not aware of her rep.
You also have to keep in mind that more than half of the guys traveling to Sosua do not know about this website, so the info is lost on them.
2) Guys will let their "little head" do the thinking over their "big head". Even if you told someone that she stole $100 from your open safe while you were showering, that guy will most likely say to himself: "Well, she did not steal $100 from me!"
Charles Pooter
02-22-14, 18:29
You also have to keep in mind that more than half of the guys traveling to Sosua do not know about this website, so the info is lost on them.I would say 95% do not consult this site. And a lot who do read the story might believe, rightly or wrongly, that the guy had it coming to him and it would never happen to them because they are too streetwise.
Also there is often more to these stories than we read. My neighbour (also a haitiana specialist) told me a certain girl had stolen 1000 pesos from him while he slept. He was a lovely guy but a raging alcoholic. I simply didn't believe him. I brought her back to Pto Plata on several occasions after that and she was a sweet girl and would do anything in bed. She told me when it was time to go she could not wake him and simply helped herself to the balance of the money he had promised. He had already given her 500 in Sosua to buy a phone. Eventually he agreed that was probably the true explanation.
Reading reports and talking to guys certainly helps to avoid some pitfalls, but in the final analysis you have to follow your own gut feeling. But by "gut feeling" I don't mean your little head.
Not true for two reasons:
1) A fresh batch of mongers roll into Sosua every week, and the mongers currently in Sosua that are hip to her game roll out. So every week she will find a fresh new batch of suckers not aware of her rep.
You also have to keep in mind that more than half of the guys traveling to Sosua do not know about this website, so the info is lost on them.
2) Guys will let their "little head" do the thinking over their "big head". Even if you told someone that she stole $100 from your open safe while you were showering, that guy will most likely say to himself: "Well, she did not steal $100 from me!"I don't see a chicas rep being tarnished in that manner either. This trip I saw several guys with the chica that threw the beer on me last year. Even if I told them what she did to me, my situation is my situation. That will not resonate as a reason for another dude not to take her.
Not true for two reasons:
1) A fresh batch of mongers roll into Sosua every week, and the mongers currently in Sosua that are hip to her game roll out. So every week she will find a fresh new batch of suckers not aware of her rep.
You also have to keep in mind that more than half of the guys traveling to Sosua do not know about this website, so the info is lost on them.
2) Guys will let their "little head" do the thinking over their "big head". Even if you told someone that she stole $100 from your open safe while you were showering, that guy will most likely say to himself: "Well, she did not steal $100 from me!"Not to mention she is fine as hell a good 8. Fat ass, nice tits, and no stomach.
She may just blow the doors off the next guy. You never know. If you connect with her she may give you a very good time. You got to get a interview and see how you vibe. If she is having fun you will have no problem. Some of these girls use coke and it effects them.
Not to mention she is fine as hell a good 8. Fat ass, nice tits, and no stomach.
Mr Enternational
02-23-14, 06:46
I don't see a chicas rep being tarnished in that manner either. This trip I saw several guys with the chica that threw the beer on me last year. Even if I told them what she did to me, my situation is my situation. That will not resonate as a reason for another dude not to take her.That is just life in general. YMMV. What works for one may not work for another. For instance my daughter's mom was the worst woman in the world to me. We were together 3 years. But her husband, they have been married 13 years. Now if he had listened to me and our troubles together then he may have missed out on the best thing for him. There is always somebody waiting in the wings to take that person into a new relationship regardless of what happened. Chemistry is a mf. For every element that does not bond well with a compound, there are many other elements that will. So while you are busy calling her "that biotch", there are many guys calling her "that angel."
Hung out at the playa yesterday. Watched dozens of chicas go by. Some back and forth. The beach IMO is a good place to meet chicas. I prefer to get their numbers and follow up down the road. When I 1st started coming to Sosua, I used to bring "sand to the beach". Meaning chicas that I spent considerable time with, I would take them to the beach. That practice then and IMO that practice now was and is still a unnecessary money drain. The chicas were eating and drinking all afternoon until it was time to go. Fast forward to today. I generally don't bring chicas to spend the day with me at the beach.
The beach is MY playground to unwind, lounge, socialize with my friends, eat good food, girl watch and potentially hunt for new juice. Rarely do I invite chicas to sit down to eat or drink. To do so can open the door for leeches to sponge off of you. Many that accept offers to "break bread", never say they are hungry if you ask. They'll say they are a little hungry. But put a plate of food in front of them muggs. They will devour that meal, and help you suck down as many grande Presidentes as they can you put in front of them. I have seen enough of that, not only from my own visits to the beach, but from watching many other guys spending a shit load of money treating potentially ungrateful, unappreciative chicas to food and drink just because they just met them on the beach.
In the night, when I pick up one of my regulars I will ask them if they are hungry. But I typically choose where to take them. Rickys on PC or Calle Pizzeria are my choices. Reasonably priced food. If you leave it up to a chica, you'll get a chica who'll snub her nose up at food she eats everyday, and decide she wants to eat at one of the more expensive touristic restaurants. Thats all fine and dandy because we know most guys can afford it. But in my opinion, most of these chicas don't even appreciate a dude for taking them to these places. They are just taking advantage of an opportunity, and the man's wallet. You'll rarely if ever see a chica go to any of these places for meals and drinks and pay with her own money.
My regulars I don't mind picking up some food before heading to my spot, but sometimes I have extended this benefit to new chicas (but it's coming to a screeching halt ). This is a practice I know isn't good in the long run. There really is no reason I should be stopping for food or drink for chicas I have never been with, and especially if they haven't performed satisfactory services. My habit with regulars does not need to be extended to uncharted chicas. Especially since even certain regulars take these gestures for granted. I'm relatively certain many new chicas don't even expect it, and probably look at the gesture in a negative light."This guy is buying me food and drink, and I haven't did anything to earn this benefit?"
I have sometimes allowed my American conditioning to govern how I relate to dominican working chicas. So I'm putting these thoughts out there in case some other cats find themselves extending themselves too much with chicas unnecessarily. Dining or extending benefits to chicas that haven't even earned a drink or a meal. And on top of that, doing it for ungrateful, unappreciative, and unreciprocal chicas. We do these kind gestures hoping the chicas take it in the spirit it was given, and maybe our time with them will be enhanced positively. But unfortunately, too often in the DR kind gestures and "paying forward" in a p4p environment, does not necessarily result in appreciation, superior performance or commensurate reciprocation. In enough instances, you are looked at as someone who is wasting your money.
Even in other areas I notice dominicans are conditioned. The times I stopped my car to allow a pedestrian or another motorist to have the right a way. I have seen people hesitate to move because they don't expect anyone to do that. They expect people to take advantage. So when you go outside of the norm, they arent looking at you like you are honorable or a nice guy. You are perceived as doing something that is not necessary. It's perfectly acceptable to be selfish and unyielding. And thats why I believe enough chicas don't really appreciate things done for them that they have not earned. And IMO, a show of excitement is not an indication of appreciation, but simply a characterization in order to encourage more unearned gifting in their regard.
Spoke to the restaurant chica early in the day. We agreed to get together. I asked what time are you going to be here. She texted 10 (10pm ). Ok sounds good. I asked her "dos mil todo la noche, problema?" She said no it's ok. Chica calls me around 10:20 to tell me she will be there in 5 minutes. She gets there about 10:45. She didn't know it yet, but she was on the verge of being dismissed. Just as I texted her that if she is not here in 3 minutes, she does not need to come, she shows up on a moto.
I'll give it to her. I never seen her in a dress, heels, hair and makeup. But she looked good. Got in my place, and 1st thing out of her mouth is that she is hungry. Our 1st encounter, I took her to Rickys along the way home. She was new, and against my better judgment, I treated her by buying food she hadn't earned yet. But now she came directly to my spot, and is hungry. So I pointed to the fridge, and told her to find something.
She makes a sandwich, and then decides to tell me that she can only stay 3 hours, and how she has to be with her bambino tomorrow blah blah blah. After being 45 minutes late already and deciding to spring this on me now, I decided to let her see her scheme go to shit. I aborted her visit right then and there. I was not going to entertain some bullshit story that she came all the way to Sosua dressed like that to spend 3 hours and go home to be with her children. And I damn well know she wasnt going to stay for 3 hours, and get dos mil out of me. That wasnt going to happen.
I already saw her work the other night, when I dropped her off at the taxi stand, when she was supposed to be going home. I drove around the block to pick up her GF, and by the time I got around the block, she was in the parking lot in the back of Rumbas. She was shocked that I didn't just accept her change of plans. She knew before she left the house that she intended to "go to work" in Sosua. Especially with what she had on. Since she decided not to tell me her plan beforehand, I decided I will choose another night. In addition, I also made sure she understood that if she is late again without promptly calling, I'm going to tell her not to come.
She pleaded a little bit, complaining about needing money for her bambinos. She came to get money. To walk out empty handed (but a stomach full of food) just did not sit well with her. I told her she was responsible for what happened tonight. Next time be on time, and next time make sure you get acceptance on a change in plan. Don't come over and then change the plan. She wanted to know if we could get together tomorrow, to that I said, I will let her know if and when I am ready. Walked her out to a moto, and while walking out she was still mumbling about needing money for her children. I just kept saying another night mi amor. I'm sure she went straight to the strip, which is what she likely intended to do in the 1st place. Polish me off in 3 hours or less, hit the strip, and hopefully go home with a nice chunk of change.
I called one of my other good fucks who was still chillin at Rumba at such a late hour. Too many people up in D'Latins. Picked her up, and enjoyed the night with her. Got to get her up now so I can fix my breakfast after she is gone. Overall, a man with options and resources is a blessing.
She pleaded a little bit, complaining about needing money for her bambinos. She came to get money. To walk out empty handed (but a stomach full of food) just did not sit well with her. I told her she was responsible for what happened tonight. Next time be on time, and next time make sure you get acceptance on a change in plan. Don't come over and then change the plan. She wanted to know if we could get together tomorrow, to that I said, I will let her know if and when I am ready. Walked her out to a moto, and while walking out she was still mumbling about needing money for her children. I just kept saying another night mi amor. I'm sure she went straight to the strip, which is what she likely intended to do in the 1st place. Polish me off in 3 hours or less, hit the strip, and hopefully go home with a nice chunk of change.Way to go! In my opinion good call and great back up plan. You were fortunate. In June; a chica did that to me but told me after sexy and was asking for more money. It was 5. O am and she agreed all morning. I had to threaten to put the word out on her and for her not to ever speak to me on the strip when I come back. That calmed her ass down. We seen each other many times since then. She comes, we embrace, compliment her on the phat ass and slim waist, but no Repeats. I know she wish she could turn back the hands of time. We mongers have to hold these chica accountable for their actions as best we can. Ipanema Carioca did a good thing by posting his warning. It might stop her business, but you have to start somewhere. Once again I say a forum should be created here for dishonest and lazy chicas. If it doesn't help anyone but Regular and Senior members. One could simply go back 5 pages read and be well warned.
I think it good to get the chicas that don't live in Sosua or PP. During the interview process, I try to find out where she lives and is staying for the night. If she is staying with a group of chicas packed in a room she is more likely to want to stay the night with you in your AC well spaced room.
I would not flip out over the 45 minutes. Nothing is on time in the DR. Leaving early is an issue if I am expected to pay all night money. 2000 pesos is a bargain for todo noche. She shows up looking very hot dressed to the nines is a sign of respect. She took the time and expense to look nice. Leaving early would prompt an upfront reduction of 500 pesos because it is now a short term session. I would not be upset normally. Since I am renting the pussy not buying it I have no say as to who else she rents or gives her pussy to. These girls are not our private girlfriends. To be surprised that they are looking for other customers is funny. This is her business she needs to make money to feed her babies, pay her rent and oh yes eat. If the sex and company is good I am generous and gracious. Now this how I always conduct my self. Once it is clear that this is how you roll and other ladies get to know this the ladies show up early and ask to stay longer. One more thing they will give better pricing cause they actually like your company. Just as the ladies have reputations so do mongers.
Way to go! In my opinion good call and great back up plan. You were fortunate. In June; a chica did that to me but told me after sexy and was asking for more money. It was 5. O am and she agreed all morning. I had to threaten to put the word out on her and for her not to ever speak to me on the strip when I come back. That calmed her ass down. We seen each other many times since then. She comes, we embrace, compliment her on the phat ass and slim waist, but no Repeats. I know she wish she could turn back the hands of time. We mongers have to hold these chica accountable for their actions as best we can. Ipanema Carioca did a good thing by posting his warning. It might stop her business, but you have to start somewhere. Once again I say a forum should be created here for dishonest and lazy chicas. If it doesn't help anyone but Regular and Senior members. One could simply go back 5 pages read and be well warned.
I think it good to get the chicas that don't live in Sosua or PP. During the interview process, I try to find out where she lives and is staying for the night. If she is staying with a group of chicas packed in a room she is more likely to want to stay the night with you in your AC well spaced room.
I would not flip out over the 45 minutes. Nothing is on time in the DR. Leaving early is an issue if I am expected to pay all night money. 2000 pesos is a bargain for todo noche.Thats good to know that you wouldn't flip out over 45 minutes. I wouldn't flip out over 45 minutes either. However nobody has to tolerate anybodies lateness either. Any person can accomplish that without flipping out.
She shows up looking very hot dressed to the nines is a sign of respect. She took the time and expense to look nice.A sign of respect? Took the time and expense to look nice? For who? The chica is on the hustle, plain and simple. Her attempt to look nice is to attract business from as many clients as she deems possible, not for any sign of respect. And if a chicas time and expense is so significant, then let her take that money and pay for her bambinos with it.
Leaving early would prompt an upfront reduction of 500 pesos because it is now a short term session. I would not be upset normally. Since I am renting the pussy not buying it I have no say as to who else she rents or gives her pussy to. These girls are not our private girlfriends. To be surprised that they are looking for other customers is funny.We all know we are renting the pussy. We all know these girls arent our private girlfriends. And your right, it would be funny for a guy to be surprised a chica is looking for other customers. But since that isn't the case here or anywhere in this forum why even bring it up?
This is her business she needs to make money to feed her babies, pay her rent and oh yes eat. If the sex and company is good I am generous and gracious.Now this is funny. Here you are sympathizing with chicas because according to you, they need to make money to feed their babies, pay their rent and to eat. But above you would reduce a chicas take home pay by 500 pesos (whats that $13?) just because she has to leave early? So you don't have a problem with a chica being late, but you do have a problem with a chica leaving early? Aint that a blip?
Suppose that chica needs to leave early so she can make money with another dude? After all you just said they are looking for other customers, and they aint our private GF's, right? You arent being a good Cap'and if you reduce a chicas pay by a measly 500 pesos, knowing full well she has to have as many clients as she can in order to take care of her priorities the way you indicated.
WTF happened to the chica having to feed her babies, pay her rent, and oh yes eat? Oh yeah, and what about the expense of her looking nice for you? Why not let her keep the 500 pesos, since you claim they use that money to look good and for a sign of respect? Where exactly does your home base of logic come from? Because some of the things you post in order to counter what you read baffles the shit out of me.
Way to go! In my opinion good call and great back up plan. You were fortunate. In June; a chica did that to me but told me after sexy and was asking for more money. It was 5. O am and she agreed all morning. I had to threaten to put the word out on her and for her not to ever speak to me on the strip when I come back. That calmed her ass down. We seen each other many times since then. She comes, we embrace, compliment her on the phat ass and slim waist, but no Repeats. I know she wish she could turn back the hands of time. We mongers have to hold these chica accountable for their actions as best we can. Ipanema Carioca did a good thing by posting his warning. It might stop her business, but you have to start somewhere. Once again I say a forum should be created here for dishonest and lazy chicas. If it doesn't help anyone but Regular and Senior members. One could simply go back 5 pages read and be well warned.
I think it good to get the chicas that don't live in Sosua or PP. During the interview process, I try to find out where she lives and is staying for the night. If she is staying with a group of chicas packed in a room she is more likely to want to stay the night with you in your AC well spaced room.A key component in the scenario I provided was that the chica told me up front before we did anything. It would have been a different issue if we did the deed, and then she sprung it on me that she was leaving. She's a woman (capable of saying anything) , but she wasnt a seasoned vet. My gut tells me, she regrets telling me so soon. I wouldn't be surprised if another chica with experience told her she didn't handle it right. She did not expect my decision to decline and re-schedule. She probably thought the 3 hours was something I would go for. Truth is, I really didn't need her all night anyway. It's just, I wasnt going to entertain the BS she was slinging, which looked more like a weak con job. After she left me, my buddy told me at breakfast that he saw her up in D'Latins last night. So hopefully by getting there early she had an opportunity to make up for the money she blew at my spot.
There are just a few guys on a couple of street corners who do it and the same guys have been doing it for years. They try to sell the generic Viagra at a 500% mark up, but I doubt if there is the same margin on condoms.Your right while travelling around the DR it is easy to find generic Viagra for 40 pesos
She makes a sandwich, and then decides to tell me that she can only stay 3 hours, and how she has to be with her bambino tomorrow blah blah blah. After being 45 minutes late already and deciding to spring this on me now, I decided to let her see her scheme go to shit. I aborted her visit right then and there. I was not going to entertain some bullshit story that she came all the way to Sosua dressed like that to spend 3 hours and go home to be with her children. And I damn well know she wasnt going to stay for 3 hours, and get dos mil out of me. That wasnt going to happen.I have never heard a DR women referring to "bambinos". Are you sure she wasn't an Italian?
It is an interesting story. Maybe she showed up late because she was with another guy, and maybe she intended to leave early because she had another guy waiting and just wanted to collect your 2000 pesos in the middle of the evening. Maybe.
Or maybe she was late because she was getting ready and had to wait her turn on the dryer at the neighborhood hair salon, or perhaps she was waiting for her baby sitter or mother to return from somewhere to mind her kids and only had managed to get a sitter for a limited time, not for overnight.
45 minutes is not very late by DR standards, or by the standards of the human female in general, and she did call you to say that she was on the way, even if her estimate of time was a bit off. (They usually are.) 2000 pesos is about US$47. 50, so not a huge amount of money for 3 hours skilled labor plus use of tools.
Either way, you have not provided enough detail to make the case. What do you mean when you say she saying she had to be with her "bambino" tomorrow? The devil is entirely in the details, which are all missing. It would be far more edifying to know the exact details of her family situation and what she needs to buy for the "bambinos", how much it costs, etc.
I know you will say that you are only interested in the service she provides and the sex, but there is such a thing as small talk and in the course of a few hours of naked fun one usually finds out quite a lot about the person one is having sex with.
How would you handle this situation in the US if you stayed home from work to meet your plumber for an appointment at your house at 9:30 a. m. and he called at 9:50 to say he was in your neighborhood, and then showed at your house at 10:15 muttering something about having to meet a counselor at his child's school, and asked to use your bathroom. You allow him to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), then tell him to be on his way as he has breached your agreement and you then call in another plumber?
You can do whatever you want with your money, but remember you are just dealing with prostitutes, not licensed and bonded professionals, and that they are just human beings, generally young and uneducated women, trying to get by like we all are. Would you really respect a woman more who did not make some effort to put the needs of her children first?
Anyway, if nothing else, your post perfectly illustrates the perils of making overnight dates with women you hardly know. Toda la noche dates are not advisable unless you have prior sexual experience of the chica and really want to face her across the breakfast table.
Mr Enternational
02-23-14, 22:24
No matter how young and uneducated someone is they can still be taught to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in a pot. At least some monger is attempting to train them around there instead of making excuses for them. I don't think it's too much to ask of any person to keep their word and do what they themselves agreed to. The consequences of breaking the agreement may seem hard, but it was damn sure fair.
My first time in DR my wingman called up a chick he knew who lived 30 minutes away. He said he wanted her there in 10 minutes. She protested saying how far she lived. He told her that if she was not there in 10 minutes then not to come at all. When he hung up I was all sympathetic asking why he was doing her like that. He said that she had to learn. If getting money is of any importance to her then she would be there. I tell you what. 10 minutes after he hung up that phone her ass pulled up on a moto. Those were the good old days of Boca Chica.
P.S. I think saying bambinos is something that mongers have brought to the DR. I remember my early days in Rio when mongers would ask girls if they had bambinos because evidently they didn't know the word for kids (filhos) in Portuguese.
I truly believe that most of the girls in Sosua have kids and use their money to feed and cloth them. I treat them with respect as long as they conduct them selves well. I like to be fair and firm. I am not trying to be a sugar daddy but I have no problem being sweet to the little ladies. I felt you may have over reacted to her being late. She was upfront with you which was a mistake from her perspective. She took the time to dress nice and get to your room although 45 minutes late. She was straight shooter and paid for it. Many of these ladies get very few customers and really rely on the money for their survival. Yes I sympathize with them. Poverty a *****.
Thats good to know that you wouldn't flip out over 45 minutes. I wouldn't flip out over 45 minutes either. However nobody has to tolerate anybodies lateness either. Any person can accomplish that without flipping out.
A sign of respect? Took the time and expense to look nice? For who? The chica is on the hustle, plain and simple. Her attempt to look nice is to attract business from as many clients as she deems possible, not for any sign of respect. And if a chicas time and expense is so significant, then let her take that money and pay for her bambinos with it.
We all know we are renting the pussy. We all know these girls arent our private girlfriends. And your right, it would be funny for a guy to be surprised a chica is looking for other customers. But since that isn't the case here or anywhere in this forum why even bring it up?
Now this is in order to counter what you read baffles the shit out of me.
The times I stopped my car to allow a pedestrian or another motorist to have the right a way. I have seen people hesitate to move because they don't expect anyone to do that.
One of the hardest things I have dealing with here is that pedestrians don't have the right of way here and you will just get run over! A few days ago a Dominican in a car stopped to let me cross the street. I came up to him and thanked him for being so considerate. What a breath of fresh air.
I truly believe that most of the girls in Sosua have kids and use their money to feed and cloth them. I treat them with respect as long as they conduct them selves well. I like to be fair and firm. I am not trying to be a sugar daddy but I have no problem being sweet to the little ladies. I felt you may have over reacted to her being late. She was upfront with you which was a mistake from her perspective. She took the time to dress nice and get to your room although 45 minutes late. She was straight shooter and paid for it. Many of these ladies get very few customers and really rely on the money for their survival. Yes I sympathize with them. Poverty a *****.I must say that I am with Old Kool on this one. I have been visiting the DR every few weeks or living in the DR for more than a decade and when I am in Sosua I often see chicas I have known for more than a decade. I have talked to many chicas, been to their homes, been to their weddings in a couple of cases, been to baptisms for their children, seen some grow from young women into middle aged matrons, etc.
But I see little reason or no reason to think there is anything other than a tiny, tiny minority of chicas who are selling ass as an ongoing professional business to make money and succeeding at it. All the ones I know are just earning money on a purely ad hoc basis to buy baby food, pampers, school supplies, support their mothers, etc. And the money is spent as soon as it is earned, if not before if they sell something they own at the pawn shop for money. Thus, if anything, they minimize the number of men they have sex with for money, because mostly they don't enjoy it and/or are ashamed of it, and only seek to get the money they need for immediate short term concerns.
Contrast this if you will with the African American woman I was talking to last night in Florida who works in a low paid job (about $10 per hour) , but works a LOT of overtime. She is planning to visit her sister in Japan in a couple of months, taking her daughter, and spending about $4000 on fares plus another $2000 for spending money. She is also working on saving a $10, 000 down payment to buy an Infiniti car that she will then pay off over three years and have free and clear.
In all the years I have talked to Dominican or Haitian chicas about their earnings, ambitions, dreams, etc. I have never met any who owned anything of more value than a passola (scooter), and only two or three of those, that they have earned from selling ass. I have heard stories about one or two who have earned and saved enough in a few years to buy a home, but they are the exceptions that prove the rule.
The only chicas who seem to have prospered are those who have an ongoing relationship with a man of means from overseas, and perhaps live in a nice apartment with a / see, have the use of a car, medical insurance, dental treatment, nice clothes and salon money. Even then they rarely have anything as basic as a bank account in their own name or any security beyond the next check.
The only other way chicas prosper financially is if they marry out of the island and prosper in a foreign country, which some do, but many don't and eventually return to the DR divorced and broke.
So when I read about scheming chicas devoting their energies to scamming mongers, I take it with a pinch of salt. Most don't have many customers and would are delighted if they get the chance to spend a few hours with a pleasant guy who is good company and get 2000 pesos for their trouble, and usually try to provide a rewarding sexual experience in return.
Yeah, there might be the odd one or two who is running some complicated scheme of deception and juggling multiple clients, but probably far, far fewer than one would think from reading this board.
No matter how young and uneducated someone is they can still be taught to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in a pot. At least some monger is attempting to train them around there instead of making excuses for them.Thinking that you can change them is the first step on the pathway to being the "Captain Save-a-Hoe" that so many of you fear becoming.
My first time in DR my wingman called up a chick he knew who lived 30 minutes away. He said he wanted her there in 10 minutes. She protested saying how far she lived. He told her that if she was not there in 10 minutes then not to come at all. When he hung up I was all sympathetic asking why he was doing her like that. He said that she had to learn. If getting money is of any importance to her then she would be there. I tell you what. 10 minutes after he hung up that phone her ass pulled up on a moto.Well, obviously she was lying about being at home and was actually close by. I can't see it proves anything.
Mr Enternational
02-24-14, 05:41
Thinking that you can change them is the first step on the pathway to being the "Captain Save-a-Hoe" that so many of you fear becoming.Come on brother. Don't just read the words; read for comprehension. You are way out in left field. Training someone to change in order to be on time and be more respectful to others is nothing like being a CSH and paying a girl or showing her the pictures that someone posted online of her in hopes that she will stop going with others. See with the first one you take something away (in this case the chance to earn money) to get the desired behavior. With the second one you are just a dumb ass thinking you can turn a hooker into a housewife.
Well, obviously she was lying about being at home and was actually close by. I can't see it proves anything.Stevie Wonder could see the main point of the issue was not where the girl lived or how close she actually was, but that she argued that it was not possible for her to arrive by the time limit she was given. When someone gave her an ultimatum (instead of feeling sorry for her and accepting her bullshit excuses as some on here are asserting should be done) she did indeed arrive on time.
I know you will say that you are only interested in the service she provides and the sex, but there is such a thing as small talk and in the course of a few hours of naked fun one usually finds out quite a lot about the person one is having sex with.Small talk is overrated and I'm not trying to get to know a hooker - there are more than enough non-hookers to do that with. I met up with a member two nights ago and hit a freelance club. I told him that I usually walk in about 2am, go up to a woman, and tell her "Let's Go." She is there for the money, and I am there for the honey. We leave the club, fuck, sleep, wake up, fuck again, and she leaves with her money. Half the time I couldn't tell you the chick's name. Most of the time when they do ask my name I tell them that names are not important. The only thing important for you is money and the only thing important for me is fucking you. No need for a chase involving food, drinks, or dancing. I am really amazed at guys who are able to keep a mental rolodex of hookers' names and things about them. Hell I can't keep the non-pros that I know sorted. If I had to remember shit about hookers too then I would really be in trouble.
Anyway, if nothing else, your post perfectly illustrates the perils of making overnight dates with women you hardly know. Toda la noche dates are not advisable unless you have prior sexual experience of the chica and really want to face her across the breakfast table.The problem with this is that I can count on one hand the times I have done short time in Sosua. I am a guy who is pretty much strictly toda la noche. I can only remember having 1 problem with a chick in Sosua and the next time I saw her I mentioned the incident. She swore that she was not the girl I was talking about until I showed her and the rest of Merengue the pictures that I had taken of her in the room on the night in question. The entire bar laughed at her.
And who said you had to face someone across the breakfast table because they spent the night? I think Wrx already has that one figured out.
Picked her up, and enjoyed the night with her. Got to get her up now so I can fix my breakfast after she is gone.
I have never heard a DR women referring to "bambinos". Are you sure she wasn't an Italian?
It is an interesting story. Maybe she showed up late because she was with another guy, and maybe she intended to leave early because she had another guy waiting and just wanted to collect your 2000 pesos in the middle of the evening. Maybe.
Or maybe she was late because she was getting ready and had to wait her turn on the dryer at the neighborhood hair salon, or perhaps she was waiting for her baby sitter or mother to return from somewhere to mind her kids and only had managed to get a sitter for a limited time, not for overnight.
45 minutes is not very late by DR standards, or by the standards of the human female in general, and she did call you to say that she was on the way, even if her estimate of time was a bit off. (They usually are.) 2000 pesos is about US$47. 50, so not a huge amount of money for 3 hours skilled labor plus use of tools.
Either way, you have not provided enough detail to make the case. What do you mean when you say she saying she had to be with her "bambino" tomorrow? The devil is entirely in the details, which are all missing. It would be far more edifying to know the exact details of her family situation and what she needs to buy for the "bambinos", how much it costs, etc.
I know you will say that you are only interested in the service she provides and the sex, but there is such a thing as small talk and in the course of a few hours of naked fun one usually finds out quite a lot about the person one is having sex with.
How would you handle this situation in the US if you stayed home from work to meet your plumber for an appointment at your house at 9:30 am and he called at 9:50 to say he was in your neighborhood, and then showed at your house at 10:15 muttering something about having to meet a counselor at his child's school, and asked to use your bathroom. You allow him to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), then tell him to be on his way as he has breached your agreement and you then call in another plumber?
You can do whatever you want with your money, but remember you are just dealing with prostitutes, not licensed and bonded professionals, and that they are just human beings, generally young and uneducated women, trying to get by like we all are. Would you really respect a woman more who did not make some effort to put the needs of her children first?
Anyway, if nothing else, your post perfectly illustrates the perils of making overnight dates with women you hardly know. Toda la noche dates are not advisable unless you have prior sexual experience of the chica and really want to face her across the breakfast table.I already alluded to the premise that she likely intended to leave early to make more money and also to get some of mine. Your speculating further is a waste, and so is me making a case for probably only a small group of individuals who can't or won't grasp what was going on with that chica. Whatever her issue was, warranted or not, that is not my concern. The only thing that matters here, is that it is my choice to accept or decline whatever she puts forth.
BTW, the DR doesn't make standards in terms of personal time management, individual people do for themselves. Therefore I don't seek to hold the DR accountable when it's an individuals behavior in question, not the DR. And thats the biggest problem here. A lot of dudes don't hold these mofos accountable. And because of that, too much shit goes on unchecked. Well I'm here to inform. That is not going to be the case in my regard.
You say 45 minutes late is not late by DR standards? Try catching the last Caribe Tours or Metro bus to an intended destination by being 45 minutes late of final departure and see if that bus is still waiting for your late arrival. When some one has to face consequences for their actions, that might do wonders in sobering up someone to the reality that others have the choice not to accept your behavior or the standards you are using.
Putting her children 1st? Are you serious? The bottom line is, the chica was lying about needing to go home early to be with her children. Her intention was to hopefully have a payday from me, and then head to the strip to find more clients there. In other words she was not going home to her children like she said, after spending time with me. Moreover there was no need for her to even dress like that, if she was only going home in 3 hours. If a chica lies to me, and uses her children as an excuse, no I don't have any respect for that. If someone else does, thats their choice. I don't have to accept that. Contrary to popular misconception, even dominican people can be held accountable for their poor choices and poor judgment.
This situation doesn't illustrate no peril in making overnight dates. You don't even have the details and facts straight according to you. So how could it perfectly illustrate some peril? This situation perfectly illustrates how a chica will lie and deceive and even use her children to get over, and how only a select few will see this chicas behavior for what it is, and deal with it accordingly.
Tempoecorto
02-24-14, 06:04
Yeah, there might be the odd one or two who is running some complicated scheme of deception and juggling multiple clients, but probably far, far fewer than one would think from reading this board.Let's call a spade a spade. There is one guy who have consistently been holding the fort single handed for the noble and ingenuous mongers and proving at every turn how unreliable, unprofessional and unethical the Sosua bitches are. Interestingly though, he only spends time and a fucking lot of it, of all places in Sosua, and regales all with a blow by blow account each day of how he unearthed another scammer and saved the poor monger with an almost missionary zeal to save the doomed.
I truly believe that most of the girls in Sosua have kids and use their money to feed and cloth them. I treat them with respect as long as they conduct them selves well. I like to be fair and firm. I am not trying to be a sugar daddy but I have no problem being sweet to the little ladies. I felt you may have over reacted to her being late. She was upfront with you which was a mistake from her perspective. She took the time to dress nice and get to your room although 45 minutes late. She was straight shooter and paid for it. Many of these ladies get very few customers and really rely on the money for their survival. Yes I sympathize with them. Poverty a *****.How did you conclude there was an over reaction to this individual being late? Nobody indicated a over reaction. All I did was assert to her that my time is just as valuable as hers. If I decide to decline a change in plans, thats my choice. Her getting all dolled up don't mean shit, because she wasnt doing it just for me. She failed to inform me of her change of plan before coming over. Her poor judgement caused her to miss out on what I could have offered.
Here's some food for thought. You and Frannie can hone in on this. Suppose some chica had paid a baby sitter to keep her children all night because her staying at some guys place was the original agreement they spoke of on the phone. She comes to his spot on time, but he's not there. He's up in Rumbas. He calls her 20 minutes after she gets there to tell her he will be there in 5 minutes. He actually gets there an extra 20 minutes later and in total he's 45 minutes late. When he gets there, he tells her she can only stay for 3 hours because he has other plans.
After hearing this, she declines his offer and leaves to go back home. Did she over react to a change in plan by declining his offer? Of course not. Was he being considerate and respectful of that individual by being 45 minutes late, even though he called to tell her he will be there in 5 minutes but made her wait an extra 20? The answer is no.
The key here gentlemen, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are. Nobody has to put up with someone elses inconsiderate behavior or change of plans.
I must say that I am with Old Kool on this one. I have been visiting the DR every few weeks or living in the DR for more than a decade and when I am in Sosua I often see chicas I have known for more than a decade. I have talked to many chicas, been to their homes, been to their weddings in a couple of cases, been to baptisms for their children, seen some grow from young women into middle aged matrons, etc.
But I see little reason or no reason to think there is anything other than a tiny, tiny minority of chicas who are selling ass as an ongoing professional business to make money and succeeding at it. All the ones I know are just earning money on a purely ad hoc basis to buy baby food, pampers, school supplies, support their mothers, etc. And the money is spent as soon as it is earned, if not before if they sell something they own at the pawn shop for money. Thus, if anything, they minimize the number of men they have sex with for money, because mostly they don't enjoy it and / or are ashamed of it, and only seek to get the money they need for immediate short term concerns.
Contrast this if you will with the African American woman I was talking to last night in Florida who works in a low paid job (about $10 per hour) , but works a LOT of overtime. She is planning to visit her sister in Japan in a couple of months, taking her daughter, and spending about $4000 on fares plus another $2000 for spending money. She is also working on saving a $10, 000 down payment to buy an Infiniti car that she will then pay off over three years and have free and clear.
In all the years I have talked to Dominican or Haitian chicas about their earnings, ambitions, dreams, etc. I have never met any who owned anything of more value than a passola (scooter) , and only two or three of those, that they have earned from selling ass. I have heard stories about one or two who have earned and saved enough in a few years to buy a home, but they are the exceptions that prove the rule.
The only chicas who seem to have prospered are those who have an ongoing relationship with a man of means from overseas, and perhaps live in a nice apartment with a / see, have the use of a car, medical insurance, dental treatment, nice clothes and salon money. Even then they rarely have anything as basic as a bank account in their own name or any security beyond the next check.
The only other way chicas prosper financially is if they marry out of the island and prosper in a foreign country, which some do, but many don't and eventually return to the DR divorced and broke.
So when I read about scheming chicas devoting their energies to scamming mongers, I take it with a pinch of salt. Most don't have many customers and would are delighted if they get the chance to spend a few hours with a pleasant guy who is good company and get 2000 pesos for their trouble, and usually try to provide a rewarding sexual experience in return.
Yeah, there might be the odd one or two who is running some complicated scheme of deception and juggling multiple clients, but probably far, far fewer than one would think from reading this board.You haven't named one valid reason that shows why an individual should not decline a change of plans or put up with lateness.
How did you conclude there was an over reaction to this individual being late? Nobody indicated a over reaction. All I did was assert to her that my time is just as valuable as hers. If I decide to decline a change in plans, thats my choice. Her getting all dolled up don't mean shit, because she wasnt doing it just for me. She failed to inform me of her change of plan before coming over. Her poor judgement caused her to miss out on what I could have offered.
Here's some food for thought.Speaking of food for thought, how much time have you expended complaining about the 45 minutes this particular chica was late? So your time isn't as valuable as you pretend it is. I got to agree with Old Kool and Frannie on this one. Your reaction, IMO, was way over the top. 2000 pesos for 3 hours is a fair price for a nice looking woman. Your on vacation loosen up and have a nice time.
These girls earn between US$1, 000 and 2, 000 per month, with average being $208 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_monthly_salaries). It makes them upper middle class by local standards.
Why do you think they can't save up?
Are they stupid or is it something else?
I must say that I am with Old Kool on this one. I have been visiting the DR every few weeks or living in the DR for more than a decade and when I am in Sosua I often see chicas I have known for more than a decade. I have talked to many chicas, been to their homes, been to their weddings in a couple of cases, been to baptisms for their children, seen some grow from young women into middle aged matrons, etc.
But I see little reason or no reason to think there is anything other than a tiny, tiny minority of chicas who are selling ass as an ongoing professional business to make money and succeeding at it. All the ones I know are just earning money on a purely ad hoc basis to buy baby food, pampers, school supplies, support their mothers, etc. And the money is spent as soon as it is earned, if not before if they sell something they own at the pawn shop for money. Thus, if anything, they minimize the number of men they have sex with for money, because mostly they don't enjoy it and / or are ashamed of it, and only seek to get the money they need for immediate short term concerns.
In all the years I have talked to Dominican or Haitian chicas about their earnings, ambitions, dreams, etc. I have never met any who owned anything of more value than a passola (scooter) , and only two or three of those, that they have earned from selling ass. I have heard stories about one or two who have earned and saved enough in a few years to buy a home, but they are the exceptions that prove the rule.
Mr Enternational
02-24-14, 09:32
These girls earn between US$1, 000 and 2, 000 per month, with average being $208 (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_monthly_salaries
). It makes them upper middle class by local standards.
Why do you think they can't save up? Are they stupid or is it something else?How did you come up with a Sosua hooker making that much money? At best I would say the average one may earn $50 every other day for a total of $750 / month - if that!
25 days x 1, 500 pesos with only one customer per day=37, 500 pesos=US$900. Plus food and drinks from some mongers, for which otherwise she would have to pay herself. I know, girls may leave home without any customer on some night, but next day she may have 2 or 3 customers plus tips, food, gifts etc. And if chica is popular and charges for some extras as anal she makes so much more.
I know couple of chicas with whom I've tried to calculate their earnings and spending. Both made about US$2, 000-2, 500 on average month. And don't forget, they do not pay any taxes.
How did you come up with a Sosua hooker making that much money? At best I would say the average one may earn $50 every other day for a total of $750 / month - if that!
Her problems with babysitter should not affect a customer.
Unless she had a medical emergency or something like that.
She is a service provider and should treat customer with respect.
Putting her children 1st? Are you serious? The bottom line is, the chica was lying about needing to go home early to be with her children. Her intention was to hopefully have a payday from me, and then head to the strip to find more clients there. In other words she was not going home to her children like she said, after spending time with me. Moreover there was no need for her to even dress like that, if she was only going home in 3 hours. If a chica lies to me, and uses her children as an excuse, no I don't have any respect for that. If someone else does, thats their choice. I don't have to accept that. Contrary to popular misconception, even dominican people can be held accountable for their poor choices and poor judgment.
We have no idea how much these ladies make. Take a look at videos of night life in Sosua. Way more chicas then guys. Most girls go home without any one pulling them.
On top of that some nights are slow and their monthly visit. I would guess they get a john less then every other day. Sure there are exceptions and they stand out. However for every exception are 5 mousey girls in the background. Selling pussy in Sosua is very competitive. Some girls are shy and not good at selling there stuff. My guess is they make about $300 a month which is a $100 more then they would make on an 8 to 5. Screwing strangers may not be as easy as we may think. Some of you guys are not as charming as me.
These girls earn between US$1, 000 and 2, 000 per month, with average being $208 (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_monthly_salaries
). It makes them upper middle class by local standards.
Why do you think they can't save up?
Are they stupid or is it something else?
We have no idea how much these ladies make. Take a look at videos of night life in Sosua. Way more chicas then guys. Most girls go home without any one pulling them.
On top of that some nights are slow and their monthly visit. I would guess they get a john less then every other day. Sure there are exceptions and they stand out. However for every exception are 5 mousey girls in the background. Selling pussy in Sosua is very competitive. Some girls are shy and not good at selling there stuff. My guess is they make about $300 a month which is a $100 more then they would make on an 8 to 5. Screwing strangers may not be as easy as we may think. Some of you guys are not as charming as me.Yes, I agree we don't really know how much they earn. Some years ago a friend of mine was running a nightclub / brothel and he kept an Excel spreadsheet on salidas which showed that one or two very popular girls were taken out almost every night, a few fairly often, and most hardly at all. I imagine that the same pattern is replicated in Sosua-a kind of bell curve in which a few really successful hookers get nearly all the dough. So the "average" may not tell us much.
Her problems with babysitter should not affect a customer.
Unless she had a medical emergency or something like that.
She is a service provider and should treat customer with respect.
They are not licensed professionals, they are just poor women trying to make a buck while they are still young enough to sell their only sellable asset. Over the years I have been amazed how nice most of them are, but of course there are always going to be a few bad apples.
Of course problems with a baby sitter COULD affect her punctuality. She could not leave small children alone without a responsible caregiver.
Some of you guys see yourselves as hard-nosed businessmen driving a hard bargain with hard-nosed businesswomen, but I suspect that the businesswomen don't have the same perspective on the whole process as you do.
Speaking of food for thought, how much time have you expended complaining about the 45 minutes this particular chica was late? So your time isn't as valuable as you pretend it is. I got to agree with Old Kool and Frannie on this one. Your reaction, IMO, was way over the top. 2000 pesos for 3 hours is a fair price for a nice looking woman. Your on vacation loosen up and have a nice time.On the night in question I spent maybe 5 minutes with the chica in regards to her being late. And about 10 minutes explaining to her that I was declining her sudden change in the original plan, and willing to re-schedule for another night. So approx 15 minutes for that. And more time with her trying to get me to accept her offer. If we plan another get together, and she is on time, that time was well spent.
Here's more food for thought. You say you agree with Frannie, that my reaction was over the top. Well let me share with you a couple of statements from your comrade. This was just posted last October. And ironically, dealing with chicas behavior was what we were discussing. The following is a reference he made to how chicas should be treated.
My experience is that you have to treat them like dogs. I love dogs to death, but you must establish complete dominance before you give them any liberties, always give clear and unambiguous signals, and make sure that they are 100% loyal to you before you give them any liberties, otherwise they will try to take the lead, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the furniture, etc. You do not give a dog your iPad to play with, or it will be Skyping other dogs and spreading rebellion.And this,
People fall into two classes, those who love dogs and those who don't. I love dogs, but when you are training them they have to first learn who is in charge before they are ready to learn. Once that is established they do fine. However if you don't show them who is in charge, then they get ideas above their station and think that they must be in charge.
It is the same with these chicas. You just have to be confident, unambiguous and in charge and you will do fine. It is not rocket science. You don't have to beat them with a stick, just make it clear that you mean what you say and say what you mean.
Lateness is a good example. If you hang around for hours waiting for them if they are late, then they will do it every time. No, give them sufficient time to allow for contingencies, then make other plans.Did you get that? He said you have to treat chicas like dogs and establish complete dominance. If you don't show them who is in charge then they get ideas. Like in this case, think they can suddenly change a plan and get you to take the bait. Or have you waiting without being considerate enough to call to inform you they will be late, and if not checked, then they'll do it every time. So in essence, I was somewhat in accord with his basic premise of taking charge of the situation and not allowing the chica to dominate the situation.
Here's more food for thought. Lots of guys get caught up aimlessly negotiating with chicas. I hear this all the time. A chica throws out the bait by telling a guy she will stay for an x amount of time for a certain amount of money. The guy goes for it, just like you thinking he's hit the jackpot with a bargain. My man, I don't know how long you've been mongering, but when a chica tells a potential client she is going to stay a certain amount of time she's likely baiting you to accept the offer. Meanwhile she may no intentions of staying the amount of time she claims. Usually it's once you nut, she's done. That can be 15 minutes or an hour. But she aint staying no 3 hours or all night just because she agreed to. And just in case you didn't get this, we never discussed nor did I post how much she was to get for staying 3 hours.
I wasnt buying it, and did not feel the need to. And FYI, the chica I replaced her with, stayed the rest of the night, about 8 hours. Enough time for 2 sessions. Now you do the math. Which option is best. Some chica who is inconsiderate by being late, tries to hustle me by changing the plan to get some quick cash, and who is only average looking, or a better looking chica who was glad that I called her, stayed 8 hours and was better company, and still was only paid 2000 pesos plus 100 pesos for transpo?
Some of you are quick to agree with each other but have no clue to what the real issues are or the depth of the people you agree with, and those you disagree with. But then, thats not my problem. I only need to think in one head. My reaction was not over the top. My reaction was on point. Now next time, this chica might not be so sloppy, and work harder to be more punctual and communicative next time I want her.
I guess I've made my calculations with most successful chicas in business.
Yet, it's hard to believe an OldKool estimation. If they only make extra $100 per month comparing to 9 to 5 job, what's the point doing that?
Yes, I agree we don't really know how much they earn. Some years ago a friend of mine was running a nightclub / brothel and he kept an Excel spreadsheet on salidas which showed that one or two very popular girls were taken out almost every night, a few fairly often, and most hardly at all. I imagine that the same pattern is replicated in Sosua-a kind of bell curve in which a few really successful hookers get nearly all the dough. So the "average" may not tell us much.
Yes, sure, but may be if she would be more honest with Wrx2005 and just admit that it was her problem and asked him to go for ST instead TLN, he would agree?
They are not licensed professionals, they are just poor women trying to make a buck while they are still young enough to sell their only sellable asset. Over the years I have been amazed how nice most of them are, but of course there are always going to be a few bad apples.
Of course problems with a baby sitter COULD affect her punctuality. She could not leave small children alone without a responsible caregiver.
Some of you guys see yourselves as hard-nosed businessmen driving a hard bargain with hard-nosed businesswomen, but I suspect that the businesswomen don't have the same perspective on the whole process as you do.
Why would she work for $300 a month? Most camareras probably make more than $100 in tips and it's a decent and safe job for chicas.
We have no idea how much these ladies make. Take a look at videos of night life in Sosua. Way more chicas then guys. Most girls go home without any one pulling them.
On top of that some nights are slow and their monthly visit. I would guess they get a john less then every other day. Sure there are exceptions and they stand out. However for every exception are 5 mousey girls in the background. Selling pussy in Sosua is very competitive. Some girls are shy and not good at selling there stuff. My guess is they make about $300 a month which is a $100 more then they would make on an 8 to 5. Screwing strangers may not be as easy as we may think. Some of you guys are not as charming as me.
Mindless chatter.
Lateness is a universal island thing. Applying US customer service methodology to putas in the DR or anywhere is ridiculous.
Mr Enternational
02-24-14, 16:07
I guess I've made my calculations with most successful chicas in business.
Yet, it's hard to believe an OldKool estimation. If they only make extra $100 per month comparing to 9 to 5 job, what's the point doing that?It's called laziness Bliadun. Be thankful that it exists. My girlfriend has a college degree and is an accountant in a warehouse. She gets up at 6:30 am Monday thru Saturday to be at work at 8. She comes home from 12-1 for lunch then goes back to work and gets home at 6pm. On Saturdays she finishes at noon. She makes 17000 pesos/month.
Compare that to the hooker who has no education and sleeps as late as she wants everyday. She shows up in Sosua only when she needs to get money. Half the time she has gringos buying food and drink for her. She hopes to one day have a Western Union boyfriend.
My buddy and I are departing today for the US. I've been here three weeks and my buddy one week. I have mixed emotions about this place and am not sure when I'll return and how long I will stay next time. I spent time at the beach every day which included snorkeling, ocean swimming, and surfing. If this place didn't have all the [CodeWord119] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord119) I could of never stayed here for three weeks, it would of just been too much. If someone is coming here to bang the Chicas only, I could see being depleted after 3 or 4 days.
My buddy has had quite an experience. He temporarily went black after spending time in the Voodo Lounge (Bar Central). Initially he had some good encounters with the Haitians and then some bad ones so stayed away from them for the rest of the trip.
E is right about how much they make working regular jobs about $40 a week and they work 6 days a week. About 54 hours a week for 40 dollars. An extra 100 dollars is huge. Being a pimp is laziness E. What these ladies do to support their families is challenging. I would guess for every score they are rejected 5 to 10 times and that the 8s. If a girl is smoking hot and we are not ready we say no. Some of you guys have Marie Antoinette symdrome. None of these ladies want to be putas. When there are almost no jobs and the jobs do not pay enough to live how do you feed your baby. (which they all have) Most of you guys do not get know regular people in the DR. If you were born in the DR you would be street hustlers. They live in a very poor country with no opportunities to better themselves. IMHO they are noble people.
I guess I've made my calculations with most successful chicas in business.
Yet, it's hard to believe an OldKool estimation. If they only make extra $100 per month comparing to 9 to 5 job, what's the point doing that?
E is right about how much they make working regular jobs about $40 a week and they work 6 days a week. About 54 hours a week for 40 dollars. An extra 100 dollars is huge. Being a pimp is laziness E. What these ladies do to support their families is challenging. I would guess for every score they are rejected 5 to 10 times and that the 8s. If a girl is smoking hot and we are not ready we say no. Some of you guys have Marie Antoinette symdrome. None of these ladies want to be putas. When there are almost no jobs and the jobs do not pay enough to live how do you feed your baby. (which they all have) Most of you guys do not get know regular people in the DR. If you were born in the DR you would be street hustlers. They live in a very poor country with no opportunities to better themselves. IMHO they are noble people.You know, Oldkool, I am really surprised that many guys either don't get what you say, or worse just don't give a Fuck (pun intended). Whatever. Life's a ***** (pun maybe intended!) as they say! Anyways, I prefer the semi pros and those from Cupid. Works for me. So far! Never a 100 percent, but say 2 out of 3. It is a LOT of work though. And I do end up spending more. And have no regrets about that whatsoever!
SavePros321
02-24-14, 18:20
My buddy has had quite an experience. He temporarily went black after spending time in the Voodo Lounge (Bar Central). Initially he had some good encounters with the Haitians and then some bad ones so stayed away from them for the rest of the trip.Glad you had fun. Your reports are some of the most skin-color conscience reports I've ever read in the Sosua forum. Hopefully it won't be so much of a highlight of your trip next time. It almost sound like you and your buddy went there fully unaware of what to expect.
My buddy and I are departing today for the US. I've been here three weeks and my buddy one week. I have mixed emotions about this place and am not sure when I'll return and how long I will stay next time. I spent time at the beach every day which included snorkeling, ocean swimming, and surfing. If this place didn't have all the [CodeWord119] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord119) I could of never stayed here for three weeks, it would of just been too much. If someone is coming here to bang the Chicas only, I could see being depleted after 3 or 4 days.Surfer500,
I hope you had a good time. I guess everyplace isn't for everybody. When I travel to Sosua, I try to stay at least 1month, and I still, leave feeling that I didn't have enough time to explore everything. That's part of the adventure for me because I have something to look forward to when I come back. I still have some chicas on my "to do" list that I have been trying get to for 2 yrs. That's part of the allure of Sosua for me; the constant change of "scenery". There's always someone new to do.
Peace.
My buddy has had quite an experience. He temporarily went black after spending time in the Voodo Lounge (Bar Central). Initially he had some good encounters with the Haitians and then some bad ones so stayed away from them for the rest of the trip.It doesn't matter. If they have even a hair from his head or a fingernail clipping, they can incorporate it into a voodoo doll and inflict suffering on him no matter what part of the earth he travels to. Sorry, but that is just how it is.
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/voodoo-doll_163.jpg
Here's more food for thought. You say you agree with Frannie, that my reaction was over the top. Well let me share with you a couple of statements from your comrade. This was just posted last October. And ironically, dealing with chicas behavior was what we were discussing. The following is a reference he made to how chicas should be treated.
Here's more food for thought. Lots of guys get caught up aimlessly negotiating with chicas. I hear this all the time. A chica throws out the bait by telling a guy she will stay for an x amount of time for a certain amount of money. The guy goes for it, just like you thinking he's hit the jackpot with a bargain. My man, I don't know how long you've been mongering, but when a chica tells a potential client she is going to stay a certain amount of time she's likely baiting you to accept the offer. Meanwhile she may no intentions of staying the amount of time she claims. Usually it's once you nut, she's done. That can be 15 minutes or an hour. But she aint staying no 3 hours or all night just because she agreed to. And just in case you didn't get this, we never discussed nor did I post how much she was to get for staying 3 hours.Pretty good rebuttal WRX so let me clarify my post to say I agree with what Frannie and Old Kool said in said in post # 19358 and 19360. I am not going to go back and read everyone's post from months ago to see if I can catch them in a contradiction. Whats the point? Your right and those who disagree with you are wrong! Everyone rolls differently, you do the DR your way and I'll do the DR my way. Beyond that I am not going to continue the argument. Good luck and happy travels.
Yes, sure, but may be if she would be more honest with Wrx2005 and just admit that it was her problem and asked him to go for ST instead TLN, he would agree?If that chica would have told me she could not stay before she came over, I would have respected that. I still may have declined, but I would have respected her doing that. Instead she told me she could only stay for 3 hours because she had to get back home to be with her children. (she said Bambino's ). That was a lie. Her intent was to go out to the club and to hopefully find more clients for the night. That don't sound like someone needing to get back home early to be with their children. She lost my interest when she did that. At that point, I didn't care about her 3 hour offer. Yesterday and today she has been blowing up my phone. But tonight I have another regular coming over. One I haven't been with in 2 weeks. I texted her earlier to tell her I have 1500 pesos for her. (she is staying all night. 10pm until morning ). I added I had more days left and need money to live on. To which she texted back, that that was no problem. She will call me when she gets to Sosua.
This chica has never been late, nor has she ever changed the original plan in order to get back to her hustle. She's usually an all nighter.
Pretty good rebuttal WRX so let me clarify my post to say I agree with what Frannie and Old Kool said in said in post # 19358 and 19360. I am not going to go back and read everyone's post from months ago to see if I can catch them in a contradiction. Whats the point? Your right and those who disagree with you are wrong! Everyone rolls differently, you do the DR your way and I'll do the DR my way. Beyond that I am not going to continue the argument. Good luck and happy travels.You don't have to go back and read anything dude. The point is, you agreed with a conclusion they made. But conclusions don't mean jack unless you have valid reasons to support them to which they gave none. Anybody can say they agree or disagree with something or somebody, but unless you have something substantive to support why you agree or disagree, you haven't proven anything or given anything worth taking into consideration.
If I address someone or a POV, I take the time to give reasons and / or logic to support my perspective. And thats how one should uphold their end of a discussion. Not simply by giving people statements that they agree or disagree. If you agree or disagree explain why you agree or disagree. But not to worry, unless you can do that, there is no argument between us. Thats one reason why enough people give up so easily. Most times it's because they don't represent the other persons POV the way the other person conveyed it. Which to a certain extent is about 70% IMO of the problem with the guys you just agreed with. But thank you for saying happy travels, and the same to you.
Let's call a spade a spade. There is one guy who have consistently been holding the fort single handed for the noble and ingenuous mongers and proving at every turn how unreliable, unprofessional and unethical the Sosua bitches are. Interestingly though, he only spends time and a fucking lot of it, of all places in Sosua, and regales all with a blow by blow account each day of how he unearthed another scammer and saved the poor monger with an almost missionary zeal to save the doomed.If you substitute your generalizations and your reference to chicas as "bitches" with the words I use, like some chicas, enough chicas, or the chicas the info applies to, then you might get out of that haterade route you are wallowing in. If you can't seem to do that like your buddies, you might as well take a seat in the corner with the rest of the "I can't seem to articulate what others post the way it was conveyed" circus clowns.
My buddy and I are departing today for the US. I've been here three weeks and my buddy one week. I have mixed emotions about this place and am not sure when I'll return and how long I will stay next time. I spent time at the beach every day which included snorkeling, ocean swimming, and surfing. If this place didn't have all the [CodeWord119] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord119) I could of never stayed here for three weeks, it would of just been too much. If someone is coming here to bang the Chicas only, I could see being depleted after 3 or 4 days.
My buddy has had quite an experience. He temporarily went black after spending time in the Voodo Lounge (Bar Central). Initially he had some good encounters with the Haitians and then some bad ones so stayed away from them for the rest of the trip.Tell your buddy; I would love to heard what happen.
I tried for 2 months to ignore you but beating the same dam drum. Girl show up 45 minutes late looking great says she can 3 hours because she has issue with her bambino. You with your magical powers read her mind and determine she wants to get another trick for night. So you show her by sending her packing with no money. For two months I tried to ignore your post. You manage to find every scammer in DR. You are a scam magnet. I like many other posters finds your assertions silly, wrong and winney. Somethings border on paranoia. We are all out to get you. I am not looking forward to the book you use to defend your stupidity. Fuck it it had to be sad cause all the right thinking folk are applauding.
If you substitute your generalizations and your reference to chicas as "bitches" with the words I use, like some chicas, enough chicas, or the chicas the info applies to, then you might get out of that haterade route you are wallowing in. If you can't seem to do that like your buddies, you might as well take a seat in the corner with the rest of the "I can't seem to articulate what others post the way it was conveyed" circus clowns.
If you want to be treated well you need to be respectful. DR putas are not the same as American Hos. I like you love the cupid and semi pros they bring a level of affection that is very refreshing and worth the effort and money it may cost. Waking up next to lovely young lady who has not sucked 5 or 6 other dicks that week is a good thing. Kissing a women who kisses you back with passion. You got to learn some Spanish and enjoy latin dancing and food. Hey but sport fucking 19 year old pussy in Sosua is real cool and should not be taken for granite. Much love bro you can be my wing anytime.
You know, Oldkool, I am really surprised that many guys either don't get what you say, or worse just don't give a Fuck (pun intended). Whatever. Life's a ***** (pun maybe intended!) as they say! Anyways, I prefer the semi pros and those from Cupid. Works for me. So far! Never a 100 percent, but say 2 out of 3. It is a LOT of work though. And I do end up spending more. And have no regrets about that whatsoever!
Thinking that you can change them is the first step on the pathway to being the "Captain Save-a-Hoe" that so many of you fear becoming.If you've been paying attention, I have brought to the surface statements you wrote about 6 months ago, to illustrate a point with another poster. And it appears that it may be appropriate to address it again. What you say here with Mr E, basically contradicts what you said in October in regards to dealing with chicas and behavior.
Have another look to see what I mean. You had already indicated that chicas have to be trained like dogs. And you indicated a rather simple process in accomplishing that.
My experience is that you have to treat them like dogs. I love dogs to death, but you must establish complete dominance before you give them any liberties, always give clear and unambiguous signals, and make sure that they are 100% loyal to you before you give them any liberties, otherwise they will try to take the lead, Or, I love dogs, but when you are training them they have to first learn who is in charge before they are ready to learn. Once that is established they do fine. However if you don't show them who is in charge, then they get ideas above their station and think that they must be in charge.
It is the same with these chicas. You just have to be confident, unambiguous and in charge and you will do fine. It is not rocket science. You don't have to beat them with a stick, just make it clear that you mean what you say and say what you mean. Now Frannie, this is one of the reasons I think you choose certain posts to respond to. Argue just to be argumentative. If a person has a POV, that POV should be consistent wherever it applies. Not just to make statements to illustrate you disagree with a poster when in reality you don't. Especially if you believe what you write.
Now above you told Mr E that thinking you can change them (chica behavior) is the 1st step on the pathway to being the "Captain Save-a-Hoe" that so many of you fear becoming. But yet back in October you broke down just how chicas should be treated and trained. You even went on to give a brief process of how it can be accomplished. You said you have to be confident, unambiguous, and in charge and you will be fine. It's not rocket science according to you. You don't have to beat them, just make it clear that you mean what you say, and say what you mean.
Now Frannie if you meant what you said and said what you mean, in that statement just a short while ago, in regards to training chicas, why would you counter Mr E now implying a problem with being able to influence a change in chicas behavior? That somehow a dude is on the pathway to becoming a "Captain Save-a-Hoe" just by thinking he can change them? Thats a significant contradiction on your part. Or perhaps I am reading it all wrong? That the only reason you made that statement was to suggest that Mr E's perspective somehow makes him inclusive of one subject to being a CSaH? Because that is what your response to him seems to represent, moreso than a legit disagreement. Especially if one is to believe that you meant what you said back in October. Please advise if I got it all wrong.
I tried for 2 months to ignore you but beating the same dam drum. Girl show up 45 minutes late looking great says she can 3 hours because she has issue with her bambino. You with your magical powers read her mind and determine she wants to get another trick for night. So you show her by sending her packing with no money. For two months I tried to ignore your post. You manage to find every scammer in DR. You are a scam magnet. I like many other posters finds your assertions silly, wrong and winney. Somethings border on paranoia. We are all out to get you. I am not looking forward to the book you use to defend your stupidity. Fuck it it had to be sad cause all the right thinking folk are applauding.It's called being there. I was the one relating to this chica, and therefore I am the one with a better perspective on what this chicas objective was that night. Moreover, Frannie made a statement that may be correct. He said she may have been late because she may have been with someone prior to getting to my place. That is entirely plausible. I think I recall he was in accord that she was aiming to be with another client that night as well. And I kinda suspect that, moreso than her being late leaving her house.
Now smart man. It is expected that you'll have a problem with whatever I post, and put a negative spin on it. But your own comrade gave a speculative opinion on the chicas potential reason for being late. You going to say to him, that he has magical powers to read that chicas mind too? Of course not. You would never say that to him even if you disagreed with him. In either case, mine or Frannie, it is experience, ours and the experience of others that allows us to calculate ones potential motives. But the most significant perspective you should have observed, is that no one is under any obligation to accept an offer, or inconsiderate behavior if they choose not to.
In the past month I have watched many guys come and go. I have had the pleasure of meeting many new guys, as well as socialize with quite a few guys I always see. I have had some interesting grown folks type of discussions with these men. In some cases many of the men were all much older than me. So it has been interesting listening to how different guys of various ages perceive and enjoy the DR, and Sosua in particular.
A lot of these men do not go to Rumba, D'Latins or any of the clubs. They have their own way of enjoying what the Dr (and Sosua) has to offer. For the most part, many if not most just enjoy sitting down and talking about anything that comes up. One can learn a lot when you have good social circles. And these guys and myself are appreciative of the beauty this country and particularly the north coast has to offer.
Some of us have said many times "It doesn't get any better than this", especially at the playa enjoying the view, the clear water, shooting the breeze, having a nice meal, girl watching and / or hunting, or taking a nap. The simple pleasure of life. Nothing extravagant. You don't have to drive your luxury car like you would back at home, no need to wear expensive clothes, or impress people with "your stuff". You can be as simplistic as you want. And the best part is, many of us are enjoying the beautiful weather after escaping all the cold weather and snow back where it is cold.
Other than that. My Montellano chica and I spent a good night together.
if you've been paying attention, i have brought to the surface statements you wrote about 6 months ago, to illustrate a point with another poster. and it appears that it may be appropriate to address it again. what you say here with mr e, basically contradicts what you said in october in regards to dealing with chicas and behavior.
have another look to see what i mean. you had already indicated that chicas have to be trained like dogs. and you indicated a rather simple process in accomplishing that.
now frannie, this is one of the reasons i think you choose certain posts to respond to. argue just to be argumentative. if a person has a pov, that pov should be consistent wherever it applies. not just to make statements to illustrate you disagree with a poster when in reality you don't. especially if you believe what you write.
now above you told mr e that thinking you can change them (chica behavior) is the 1st step on the pathway to being the "captain save-a-hoe" that so many of you fear becoming. but yet back in october you broke down just how chicas should be treated and trained. you even went on to give a brief process of how it can be accomplished. you said you have to be confident, unambiguous, and in charge and you will be fine. it's not rocket science according to you. you don't have to beat them, just make it clear that you mean what you say, and say what you mean.
now frannie if you meant what you said and said what you mean, in that statement just a short while ago, in regards to training chicas, why would you counter mr e now implying a problem with being able to influence a change in chicas behavior? that somehow a dude is on the pathway to becoming a "captain save-a-hoe" just by thinking he can change them? thats a significant contradiction on your part. or perhaps i am reading it all wrong? that the only reason you made that statement was to suggest that mr e's perspective somehow makes him inclusive of one subject to being a csah? because that is what your response to him seems to represent, moreso than a legit disagreement. especially if one is to believe that you meant what you said back in october. please advise if i got it all wrong.yes, but if you read carefully what i wrote before i said that with regard to lateness, you will see that i say first make a reasonable allowance for contingencies. i would say you did not do this, especially as she did call to say she was running late. ok, she said five minutes and showed up twenty five minutes later, but a lot of these chicas have little sense of time. people are no different in the us.
in my employment i would often get phone calls from employees who said they were running late. if i asked them how late, they would perhaps say 15 minutes and then show up half an hour later, because people habitually underestimate how long it takes to get their stuff together, set the burglar alarm, get their car loaded, started and backed out, arrive at destination, find a parking spot, park, walk to building where they work, open the door, remember they left their time card in the car, go back and get it, and so on. if they arrived half an hour late instead of 15 minutes, i would not then tell them to go home again.
if a chica said she was coming in five minutes, and she was in la union (for example) , she probably meant she was leaving the house in five minutes, so by the time she had walked down to the carretera, waited for a carro with an empty seat, rode to sosua, exited the taxi, crossed the road, spoken to an acquaintance she saw, and so on, probably 25 minutes had gone by. that would be allowing for contingencies. also remember that your spanish is not 100% perfect, so you might have missed the fine distinctions between ahora and ahorita and ahora mismo, for example. if a chica says she is leaving the house ahorita, it is far from clear if she is on the way out the door, or needs to take a shower first.
anyway you didn't make a reasonable allowance for contingencies.
secondly, i love dogs, and treat them with great affection, but i don't ask them for their opinions. that is what i mean by treating them like dogs. in the original discussion i think someone was talking about a chica using his ipad to skype her male friends during a paid date, or something like that. no i would not tolerate that, but a bit different from showing up a bit late, when clearly the chica had been spending time fixing herself up to look good, for whatever reason.
this girl is a prostitute who showed up a bit late for a prearranged 10:00 pm date, which is about par for the course. it was not like you had to leave at 11:00 pm to go to the airport to catch your flight home, in which case you might well want to grab another chica if she did not show up.
it sounds like you had a bit of a crush on this chica and were just bent out of shape when it became apparent that to her you were just another tourist client.
maybe she did intend to look for another client later, or maybe she was just trying to make a good impression on you. we shall never know. who cares? move on.
regarding mr. e, i am not sure what point you are making, but if his friend called a women whom he knew lived 1/2 hour away and told her to be there in 10 minutes or not to bother, then either she is not at home, but close by, or she doesn't come. it appears that she was lying about her gps data, but these chicas lie all the time for various reasons. do you really want a chica to say "right now i am fucking someone else, but as soon as i have finished and washed up i will be with you"?
it is like these people who act like they are really shocked that president clinton lied about getting his dick sucked by monica lewinsky."oh, i could not vote for him because he lied about lewinsky!" do you think you would ever hear people saying "well i disagree with clinton on his economic and foreign policy, and he was responsible for genocide in bosnia, and i think what he did to haiti over the rice farmers was criminal, but since he told the truth about monica sucking his dick, i will vote for him again!"
i still think that once you believe you can change people's behavior, that is the first step towards being captain save a hoe. never mind if you are a behaviorist or a cognitive therapist.
my recommendation would be to not become so emotionally involved over issues like lateness. if they show up on time that is nice, but if not then go your own way. it is your vacation.
Some of us have said many times "It doesn't get any better than this", especially at the playa enjoying the view, the clear water, shooting the breeze, having a nice meal, girl watching and / or hunting, or taking a nap. The simple pleasure of life. Nothing extravagant. You don't have to drive your luxury car like you would back at home, no need to wear expensive clothes, or impress people with "your stuff". You can be as simplistic as you want. And the best part is, many of us are enjoying the beautiful weather after escaping all the cold weather and snow back where it is cold.
Other than that. My Montellano chica and I spent a good night together.Thank you for your post (and the start of getting this thread back on track). I am heading to Sosua in a couple of weeks and looking forward to having a great time, meeting new friends, and seeing what this place is all about.
Tempoecorto
02-25-14, 16:30
i still think that once you believe you can change people's behavior, that is the first step towards being captain save a hoe. never mind if you are a behaviorist or a cognitive therapist.perhaps he is trying to change: his message was a lot better this morning when he did not opine on women.
some people have a one pony trick and so their message is a "cut and paste" every day. for such people, paraphrasing oscar wilde,"the worse thing than being talked about is not being talked about at all".
Tempoecorto
02-25-14, 16:35
Fuck it it had to be sad cause all the right thinking folk are applauding.Kudos that you are not and there are others. I too am tired of the "complain, repeat" routine.
If you've been paying attention, I have brought to the surface statements you wrote about 6 months ago, to illustrate a point with another poster. And it appears that it may be appropriate to address it again. What you say here with Mr E, basically contradicts what you said in October in regards to dealing with chicas and behavior.
Have another look to see what I mean. You had already indicated that chicas have to be trained like dogs. And you indicated a rather simple process in accomplishing that.Look here is the thing about dogs. I used to work as a weekend administrator at a large hospital and was responsible for scheduling and managing about 300 employees on the typical weekend or holiday-doctors, nurses, techs, kitchen staff, cleaners, security-everybody.
It was important that people showed up for work, preferably on time so that the previous shift could go home, to manage overtime costs, to meet statutory requirement such as Medicare rules, and to provide effective quality care to patients and their families.
Employees would come up with all sorts of spurious reasons why they were late or absent and most of it would be lies. That is just normal human behavior, and one has to manage it, no matter how angry one would like to become.
For example a $30 per hour nurse calls and says she is taking sick leave on a public holiday, but you know perfectly well that she works part time for an agency that pays $90 per hour for working on holidays in some other hospital. So today she is getting $30 per hour from you, plus $90 per hour from someone else.
You have an employee who calls and says he / she ate something at McDonalds last night and have been having diarrhea and vomiting all night. You say fine, you will call the Public Health Department to report this and they will probably come to interview the employee about this outbreak of food poisoning. Half an hour later the employee calls to say they took some pills and are feeling better already and maybe it was the home brewed beer, not McDonalds.
You have an employee who you know is a heavy drinker who calls at 5:00 a. M. And says his / her car will not start and it is being towed. Yeah, right.
People do this all the time, even responsible employees in what you may regard as the best health care system in the world. It is not worth losing any sleep over, and you just have to treat them like dogs. Don't pay any attention to what they say, just focus on the behavior (absenteeism) and managing the consequences (gaps in scheduled services).
You are on vacation and a prostitute calls to say she is running late for an appointment. You suspect she is "cheating" on you. Get over it! Tell her you are amused at her presumption and ask if the sex was good with the other guy. Make her suck your dick while she tells you about it. Make her say "Papi only your guevo makes me feel good" while you tell her "Mami, no other woman makes me hard like you do" It is all lies, but it is all good fun.
[quote=frannie; 1536584]i still think that once you believe you can change people's behavior, that is the first step towards being captain save a hoe. never mind if you are a behaviorist or a cognitive therapist.
/quote]perhaps he is trying to change: his message was a lot better this morning when he did not opine on women.
some people have a one pony trick and so their message is a "cut and paste" every day. for such people, paraphrasing oscar wilde,"the worse thing than being talked about is not being talked about at all".well oscar wilde surely knew a thing or two about mongering. he said "true friends stab you in the front."
he also said "women are made to be loved, not understood."
The times I stopped my car to allow a pedestrian or another motorist to have the right a way. I have seen people hesitate to move because they don't expect anyone to do that.
One of the hardest things I have dealing with here is that pedestrians don't have the right of way here and you will just get run over! A few days ago a Dominican in a car stopped to let me cross the street. I came up to him and thanked him for being so considerate. What a breath of fresh air.I've never seen a race of people more nonchalant about crossing the street than Dominicans in Sosua! They will step out into the road without even thinking of looking to see if a car is coming or not! Its no surprise that so many are killed every year from auto / moto accidents
If you want to be treated well you need to be respectful. DR putas are not the same as American Hos. I like you love the cupid and semi pros they bring a level of affection that is very refreshing and worth the effort and money it may cost. Waking up next to lovely young lady who has not sucked 5 or 6 other dicks that week is a good thing. Kissing a women who kisses you back with passion. You got to learn some Spanish and enjoy latin dancing and food. Hey but sport fucking 19 year old pussy in Sosua is real cool and should not be taken for granite.Haven 123 & Old Kool where all on the same page regarding the dating site girls / semi-pro's and the sport fucking available from the Strip. Live long and prosper!
SavePros 321,
If I have offended you I apologize. If you have been reading my reports since my visits in December and earlier this month you would of noticed that several of my reports have been "color-full" and nothing to do with the color of someone's skin. It's not the color of someones skin that matters, but what's below the skin that matters.
Yes, but if you read carefully what I wrote before I said that with regard to lateness, you will see that I say first make a reasonable allowance for contingencies. I would say you did not do this, especially as she did call to say she was running late. OK, she said five minutes and showed up twenty five minutes later, but a lot of these chicas have little sense of time. People are no different in the US.You are mistaken. And you don't read very well. I said she was already late before she called to say she will there in 5 minutes and took an additional 25 minutes on top of her already being late. I didn't say she called at 10 or before 10 to say she was running late. Obviously if she wasnt there at 10, don't you think I already knew she was late? I didn't need no phone call after 20 minutes to tell me she was running late. You can make any excuse you want, misinterpret what I said, or twist the details anyway you want. I handled it the way I thought was best for me.
Anyway you didn't make a reasonable allowance for contingencies.Wrong again. You know why? One, you don't have any information or a clue of why she was late? And two, I never posted why she was late. And three, I waited for her, until she showed up. So tell me, how is it, I did not make allowances for contingencies if I waited until she got there? Moreover, I walked her into my apartment and allowed her to fix a sandwich. ONLY When she told me that she could only stay 3 hours, thats when I told her that I was not interested in that offer for the night. And told her that we will get together another night. So your assumption that my reaction to her being late was unreasonable, is somewhere out in left field. And I know you don't have it in you to acknowledge that major blunder, so I'll just accept the fact that I know the deal.
but a bit different from showing up a bit late, when clearly the chica had been spending time fixing herself up to look good, for whatever reason.Makes no difference. If you are late, and fail be considerate enough to call, you may have to deal with the potential consequences for that decision. If you try to change a plan without 1st discussing it, you may have to deal with the potential consequences for that decision.
This girl is a prostitute who showed up a bit late for a prearranged 10:00 pm date, which is about par for the course. It was not like you had to leave at 11:00 pm to go to the airport to catch your flight home, in which case you might well want to grab another chica if she did not show up.Assuming she is a prostitute, according to you, you just confirmed that how I handled the situation was quite reasonable. And BTW, I did grab another chica, after that chica was gone. Or did you miss that?
It sounds like you had a bit of a crush on this chica and were just bent out of shape when it became apparent that to her you were just another tourist client.No, it sounds more like you don't have anything substantive to rebut. Especially since I handled the situation perfectly, and enjoyed the rest of the night.
Maybe she did intend to look for another client later, or maybe she was just trying to make a good impression on you. We shall never know. Who cares? Move on.Enjoying time with another chica, I moved on quite nicely.
My recommendation would be to not become so emotionally involved over issues like lateness. If they show up on time that is nice, but if not then go your own way. It is your vacation.My recommendation for you is this : Try to remember that I only think in one head. I don't feel the emotions you and your buddies try to assign to me. It's obvious that these emotions are running deep inside of you all, other wise you wouldn't have made it an issue to respond to it.
It's to the point now, others can clearly see that you and your buddies have an emotional connection to what I post. But it's to the point now, it's more about who is posting rather than what I post. It is quite obvious. The most important element missing from the attempts I see to express disdain / disagreement for what I post, is that there is a failure to give valid reasons / perspective to support the statements that are being made. All I ask, is for you and others to provide that information so anyone can offer a reasonable rebuttal, rather than to keep correcting you on the erroneous conclusions and misinterpretations we keep seeing. Can you do that? Will you do that?
They are not licensed professionals, they are just poor women trying to make a buck while they are still young enough to sell their only sellable asset. Over the years I have been amazed how nice most of them are, but of course there are always going to be a few bad apples.I agree most of the ladies I have been with in the DR are not as street wise as most of us mongers and that always is a treat for me because most of the places I have mongered the lady is slicker then me.
I was at the playa yesterday, enjoying the day. The restaurant chica (the 45 minutes late chica, or "the prostitute") called. She was working on the playa, and when she was off, stopped by where I was to see if we could get together. I said possibly, but it will be later. I asked where she was going now. I could tell she was hesitant to answer that question, but she said, home. Her hesitancy was probably because she wanted to stick around so her and I could hook up, instead of her having to go home and come back later.
Nevertheless, I wanted to spend time with my friends early evening and then afterwards, she could come over. Turns out she decided to wait around in Sosua, or where ever. We spoke about what time I would get back home, and when she was coming over. Well when I got home, she had already beat me to my spot and was waiting for me when I got there.
We had a great time with each other, the whole night. So she must have got the message straight from the other night. See? Like my posting buddy said, all you have to do is be assertive, unambiguous, blah blah blah. Say what you mean, and mean what you say, and you will be fine.
Thank you for your post (and the start of getting this thread back on track). I am heading to Sosua in a couple of weeks and looking forward to having a great time, meeting new friends, and seeing what this place is all about.The flow of this forum is like waves at the beach. Like any forum, you extract the good, and discard the non essential.
The flow of this forum is like waves at the beach.Agreed. I may not handle things the way you did with the restaurant chick (that's not my style) , but I respect that that's the way you decided to handle the situation and you were satisfied with the outcome and that's all that matters. Me arguing with you is like someone arguing with someone else who paid $200 for an escort in BKK and had a great time. I would never hire an escort, nor would I ever pay $200 in Bangkok, but he did and that's that. It's just a story. No more, no less.
Moving on, and at the risk of being told to RTFF, are any massage places in Sosua open again, are they worth going to, and do they provide extras? I am looking to find a couple of daytime activities while I am there.
Its almost 2 years since I was in Sosua, although I've been down with family to Punta Cana and Cayo Leventado (never really got off the reservation except for one glorious night when I bummed a ride on the service staff boat to Samana with nothing but my bank card. Came back next morning dehydrated, hung over, but very happy.).
Anyway I'm looking forward to a week in my old Paradise.
Logged in here (still works) and perused the latest gossip.
Nothing much has changed in the forum, the usual whiners who have never realized that mongering in Sosua is one of our lowest forms of civilization, but somehow are disappointed when the putas actually act like putas. They're shocked and outraged "Unacceptable behavior", they righteously scream. Where's the Chica Ombudsman when you need one? .
Then like a lot of guys we've had the misfortune to meet on the plane, the bar, or the hotel, go on ad nauseum seeking approval of their behavior."It's not me, it's her!"
Anyways I was wondering if the Bermuda is now glassed in, is Thomas still there, and if the Happy Bar is still alive.
I have lost touch with my old link to Sosua, La Princessa.
Anyway I'm looking forward to a week in my old Paradise.When are you heading down? I'll be there on 3/14.
Just a heads up and also for those that like the Black Bike Week or Freaknik type events, the guy who manages V House will have another event this year. Last year, there were professional ballers in town including NBA and NFL players along with video girls from the USA. Here is the website: http://drbeachfestival.com/
When are you heading down? I'll be there on 3/14.I'll be there March 2 through 9.
Last minute booking. Just decided today.
Too bad. Would have liked to hang out. No problem. You provide the foreplay, and I'll give the girls the main course! :P
Seriously though, I'm looking forward to reading your up to date field reports as I will be going right after you get back.
Have a safe trip and enjoy.
Too bad. Would have liked to hang out. No problem. You provide the foreplay, and I'll give the girls the main course! :P
Seriously though, I'm looking forward to reading your up to date field reports as I will be going right after you get back.
Have a safe trip and enjoy.Thanks, I'll leave the drink of your choice in the taps at the Bermuda for you. (Mr. F)
SavePros321
02-27-14, 12:40
Its almost 2 years since I was in Sosua, although I've been down with family to Punta Cana and Cayo Leventado (never really got off the reservation except for one glorious night when I bummed a ride on the service staff boat to Samana with nothing but my bank card. Came back next morning dehydrated, hung over, but very happy.).
Anyway I'm looking forward to a week in my old Paradise.
Logged in here (still works) and perused the latest gossip.
Nothing much has changed in the forum, the usual whiners who have never realized that mongering in Sosua is one of our lowest forms of civilization, but somehow are disappointed when the putas actually act like putas. They're shocked and outraged "Unacceptable behavior", they righteously scream. Where's the Chica Ombudsman when you need one? .
I have lost touch with my old link to Sosua, La Princessa.Oakie, long time no see! What's it been about 3 or 4 years since you've logged into this forum?
How did everything go getting La Princessa up to Canada? I believe that is where you left off on ISG. You sort of disappeared after that!
FruitNinja
02-27-14, 13:32
Look here is the thing about dogs. I used to work as a weekend administrator at a large hospital and was responsible for scheduling and managing about 300 employees on the typical weekend or holiday-doctors, nurses, techs, kitchen staff, cleaners, security-everybody.
It was important that people showed up for work, preferably on time so that the previous shift could go home, to manage overtime costs, to meet statutory requirement such as Medicare rules, and to provide effective quality care to patients and their families.
Employees would come up with all sorts of spurious reasons why they were late or absent and most of it would be lies. That is just normal human behavior, and one has to manage it, no matter how angry one would like to become.
For example a $30 per hour nurse calls and says she is taking sick leave on a public holiday, but you know perfectly well that she works part time for an agency that pays $90 per hour for working on holidays in some other hospital. So today she is getting $30 per hour from you, plus $90 per hour from someone else.
You have an employee who calls and says he / she ate something at McDonalds last night and have been having diarrhea and vomiting all night. You say fine, you will call the Public Health Department to report this and they will probably come to interview the employee about this outbreak of food poisoning. Half an hour later the employee calls to say they took some pills and are feeling better already and maybe it was the home brewed beer, not McDonalds.
You have an employee who you know is a heavy drinker who calls at 5:00 am And says his / her car will not start and it is being towed. Yeah, right.
People do this all the time, even responsible employees in what you may regard as the best health care system in the world. It is not worth losing any sleep over, and you just have to treat them like dogs. Don't pay any attention to what they say, just focus on the behavior (absenteeism) and managing the consequences (gaps in scheduled services).
You are on vacation and a prostitute calls to say she is running late for an appointment. You suspect she is "cheating" on you. Get over it! Tell her you are amused at her presumption and ask if the sex was good with the other guy. Make her suck your dick while she tells you about it. Make her say "Papi only your guevo makes me feel good" while you tell her "Mami, no other woman makes me hard like you do" It is all lies, but it is all good fun.This should be a "best of" post. I partake of the game at home as well as abroad. Regardless of the situation these girls will find a way to complicate it. I run a business that requires an immense amount of planning and scheduling in a 1st world country where everyone is time centric, and I deal with it. Now move my obsessive compulsive ass to a third world country where time stands still and in their eyes I'm a freak. Got to take the dial from 11 to about 2.
I waited for one FL here for an hour in my car. It was the middle of winter. Turned out it was time well spent.
I'm out of here next Friday! I get to go to 2 for a month.
Tempoecorto
02-28-14, 02:21
Where's the Chica Ombudsman when you need one?Almost doubled over, laughing!
Tempoecorto
02-28-14, 02:22
This should be a "best of" post.Completely agree!
Oakie, long time no see! What's it been about 3 or 4 years since you've logged into this forum?
How did everything go getting La Princessa up to Canada? I believe that is where you left off on ISG. You sort of disappeared after that!Hey Save a Pro!
Its a long story, but the bottom line is that all the advice I got from here, both positive (from you and Coolie) and negative (from most of the others) was in its own way more or less correct.
I always said I would let the forum know how things worked out, but there was not really any finale to it. It just petered out.
I tried for two years to get her papers in order, both she and I spent a lot of time at the Canadian consulate in SD (manned by Dominican employees) explaining why she should be allowed to come for a simple vacation. This involved putting money in her bank account, and sending her two tickets. At least one visa expired due to my rigid schedule control, her adopted daughter's schooling, and her son's annual summer vacation with her (which she considered sacrosant). A hurricane on the way to the airport with her mother and her brother also got in the way one time.
If I hadn't been so rigid on the timing at my end, it could have worked, but then I wouldn't have been in control of the situation. For the same reason I refused to give her a ring and a firm offer of commitment (marriage?) which would have helped with the Consulate who actually told me, insultingly, that they were in the business of preventing guys exporting putas to work their trade in other countries.
In the meantime her bank account gradually got depleted (what else?) the Western Union money was flowing, and I finally gave up. She's still there, and I'm still here. I stopped returning her phone calls and texts.
I would say this, for all the other romantics out there, true love would find a way, that If we really felt we were in love with each other it would have been much easier, but I wanted to keep control with little commitment. I wasn't ready to marry her (and her family). You can't have it both ways, I guess.
The Good news. While this was going on I met in my home town, a part time Japanese student / stripper who in return for me "helping" her gave me more than I could have dreamed of. No hassle, no drama, she lives close by, and drives! It's been two years now, and I'm saving money.
But, this winter is driving me nuts, and I need some sun on my aging body.
La Princessa has family working all over town, so it'll be interesting to see if my cover get's blown. I really wouldn't be sorry if it did. Besides with a detailed post like this, I feel I'm exposing myself anyway. But it's all true, so I don't give a shit at this point in my life.
Now tell me what's going with you?
La Princessa has family working all over town, so it'll be interesting to see if my cover get's blown. I really wouldn't be sorry if it did. Besides with a detailed post like this, I feel I'm exposing myself anyway. But it's all true, so I don't give a shit at this point in my life.Wow. What a great story. I am glad you found happiness. Don't worry about having your cover blown. Go there like it's your first time. Keep a low profile. Don't bring attention to yourself and nobody will know you are there. So many people go there every single day that it's virtually impossible for anybody to put two and two together and figure out that you are there. They are busy thinking about other things to check out every single person around. I think you will be fine.
SavePros321
02-28-14, 13:56
hey save a pro!
its a long story, but the bottom line is that all the advice i got from here, both positive (from you and coolie) and negative (from most of the others) was in its own way more or less correct.
i always said i would let the forum know how things worked out, but there was not really any finale to it. it just petered out.
i tried for two years to get her papers in order, both she and i spent a lot of time at the canadian consulate in sd (manned by dominican employees) explaining why she should be allowed to come for a simple vacation. this involved putting money in her bank account, and sending her two tickets. at least one visa expired due to my rigid schedule control, her adopted daughter's schooling, and her son's annual summer vacation with her (which she considered sacrosant). a hurricane on the way to the airport with her mother and her brother also got in the way one time.
if i hadn't been so rigid on the timing at my end, it could have worked, but then i wouldn't have been in control of the situation. for the same reason i refused to give her a ring and a firm offer of commitment (marriage?) which would have helped with the consulate who actually told me, insultingly, that they were in the business of preventing guys exporting putas to work their trade in other countries.
in the meantime her bank account gradually got depleted (what else?) the western union money was flowing, and i finally gave up. she's still there, and i'm still here. i stopped returning her phone calls and texts.
now tell me what's going with you?oakie, it's great to have you back. i'm glad you emerged from this story mostly unrep001hed. i believe you've mentioned you had the financial means to experiement with this. honestly it would have bankrupted most of us. but i am not going to start flaming you for trying, and i would hope you would ignore all the people that may try to flame you. you are actually in a unique position to advise any newbies of the pitfalls and headache they may experience trying to go down this road.
as for me; after multiple trips to sosua since 2008, my last trip to sosua was in may 2012. later that year i went to colombia, and the rest is history, lol. i've been trying my best to get back to the dominican republic, but colombia currently has my dick and balls in a (gently) vice grip, so it doesn't look hopeful, lol.
anyway, welcome back. hopefully you will branch out from sosua and explore the entire island. ignore any temptation to seek out la princessa trying to rekindle an old flame. if you think you are about to "fall off the wagon" again, seek out cuba dave and he'll coach you on the "big papi" vs. "pocket change" philosophy (you want to be "pocket change" http://youtu.be/rxp5yu0552e).
most importantly, have fun!
-sp-
Mr Enternational
02-28-14, 15:30
If you think you are about to "fall off the wagon" again, seek out Cuba Dave and he'll coach you on the "Big Papi" vs."Pocket Change" philosophy (you want to be "Pocket Change"
http://youtu.be/rXP5yu0552EOf course he made sense with the message he was conveying, but with all the mongering he has done in Latin America does he know anything about Spanish? The root word "papa" means daddy. When you substitute the second "a" with an "i" it puts the root in the diminutive (smaller) form to make papi, meaning "little daddy." If you substitute the second "a" with an "o" it puts the root in the augmentative (bigger) form to make papo, meaning "big daddy." Hence, saying Big Papi (Big Little Daddy) don't make no sense at all.
Agreed. I may not handle things the way you did with the restaurant chick (that's not my style) , but I respect that that's the way you decided to handle the situation and you were satisfied with the outcome and that's all that matters. Me arguing with you is like someone arguing with someone else who paid $200 for an escort in BKK and had a great time. I would never hire an escort, nor would I ever pay $200 in Bangkok, but he did and that's that. It's just a story. No more, no less.
Moving on, and at the risk of being told to RTFF, are any massage places in Sosua open again, are they worth going to, and do they provide extras? I am looking to find a couple of daytime activities while I am there.I hear man. You would not handle things the way I did. I wish I knew why re scheduling with a chica was such a hard pill to swallow for a few cats. I mean you would have thought I mistreated the chica or she was my GF?
Of course he made sense with the message he was conveying, but with all the mongering he has done in Latin America does he know anything about Spanish? The root word "papa" means daddy. When you substitute the second "a" with an "i" it puts the root in the diminutive (smaller) form to make papi, meaning "little daddy." If you substitute the second "a" with an "o" it puts the root in the augmentative (bigger) form to make papo, meaning "big daddy." Hence, saying Big Papi (Big Little Daddy) don't make no sense at all.Recall that Boston Red Sox player David Ortiz is called "Big Papi."
Changing Papa' to Papi, changes the word from Dad to Daddy, but I wouldn't go so far as to include "little" in the meaning.
Papi is an affectionate term for Daddy, and "Big Papi" translates as "Big Daddy"
Charles Pooter
02-28-14, 20:36
of course he made sense with the message he was conveying, but with all the mongering he has done in latin america does he know anything about spanish? the root word "papa" means daddy. when you substitute the second "a" with an "i" it puts the root in the diminutive (smaller) form to make papi, meaning "little daddy." if you substitute the second "a" with an "o" it puts the root in the augmentative (bigger) form to make papo, meaning "big daddy." hence, saying big papi (big little daddy) don't make no sense at all.most languages are a lot more flexible and open to playing around with apparent contradictions than you are suggesting. never heard of the movie "little big man"?
there is a figure of speech called "oxymoron", meaning a self-contradiction, which has been effectively used by writers since the time of homer.
This is how we used to kill time in the daytime in the " Old Sosua".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5W10bKTbaA&feature=youtu.beYeah, I remember how it used to be back in the day. A lot of new jacks will never know about things like Clasicos, Pasions and cheap fares into POP either, but you can't miss what you never had.
Yeah, I remember how it used to be back in the day. A lot of new jacks will never know about things like Clasicos, Pasions and cheap fares into POP either, but you can't miss what you never had.Not to mention big disco which was closed down. Name eludes me All the girls and guys used to go there. No need to rub elbows because it was really nice with big open areas and big dance floor. I used to park right near the entrance and just tipped the attendant there. Cannot find cheap airfares anymore because the travel agencies and resorts book them by the block.
There were couple of brothels on the main strip. All you need to pay is barfine of 100 pesos. After that you negotiate with the girl. There were quite a few lookers.
Attached is one of them.
Charles Pooter
03-01-14, 18:24
Not to mention big disco which was closed down. Name eludes me.High Caribe?
In those days Puerto Plata was a more active place for mongering than Sosua.
Tempoecorto
03-02-14, 03:53
most languages are a lot more flexible and open to playing around with apparent contradictions than you are suggesting. never heard of the movie "little big man"?
there is a figure of speech called "oxymoron", meaning a self-contradiction, which has been effectively used by writers since the time of homer.lol! what has gotten unto you charles pooter. homer and oxymoron. i thought you left all that dumb stuff to the indians.
oakie, it's great to have you back. i'm glad you emerged from this story mostly unrep001hed. i believe you've mentioned you had the financial means to experiement with this. honestly it would have bankrupted most of us. but i am not going to start flaming you for trying, and i would hope you would ignore all the people that may try to flame you. you are actually in a unique position to advise any newbies of the pitfalls and headache they may experience trying to go down this road.
as for me; after multiple trips to sosua since 2008, my last trip to sosua was in may 2012. later that year i went to colombia, and the rest is history, lol. i've been trying my best to get back to the dominican republic, but colombia currently has my dick and balls in a (gently) vice grip, so it doesn't look hopeful, lol.
anyway, welcome back. hopefully you will branch out from sosua and explore the entire island. ignore any temptation to seek out la princessa trying to rekindle an old flame. if you think you are about to "fall off the wagon" again, seek out cuba dave and he'll coach you on the "big papi" vs."pocket change" philosophy (you want to be "pocket change"
http://youtu.be/rxp5yu0552e
).
most importantly, have fun!
-sp-it wasn't that bad, financially. i figured it was actually cheaper than having a steady girlfiend / wife, especially since now i wasn't going down there every couple months or so. i did set limits, and when that limit was reached that was it. (it wasn't like i was giving her an apartment, moto concho, expensive jewelry or even a car, which i know some guys have)
the consensus here was that "cut off the money and see what happens", but after a couple years she is still calling and messaging, and on my facebook, etc. since i haven't replied or acknowledged her during that time, she is only now beginning to ease off.
i'm curious about "columbia", so i'll get on that forum and hope to see you there. if it's better than sosua, i can only imagine!
thanks for the cubadave link. he says it all, but he subscribes to the "they're all the same" theory, which misses a lot, and takes the adventure away it from it all. there is the rare one that has a level of maturity, sophistication, sense of humor that rises miles above the endless parade of simple working chicas. i know, i've "auditioned" lots of them over time, and never found one that i could ever have anything in common with, much less dare to introduce them to some of my family, which i did with her, and she handled herself perfectly in that situation. she is the head of her extended family (s) and i spent most of my time down there with them. i saw where a lot of the money going over time, mostly to the family (s) for things like a refrigerator, beds, stuff for the kids, etc, and they would thank me personally and show me proudly what my money had bought. my version of charitable contribution to the third world (and great sex).
it just felt good, and for me that's what it's all about.
the money you spend on chicas, is gone forever, but with a regular, the returns build up over time, and you don't need money every time you go out, or want to get laid. they learn what you like, and you learn what she likes. there's no surprises, disappointments, or trouble of any kind.
sorta like leasing a car, as opposed to going through the hassle of hiring one every day.
I've never seen a race of people more nonchalant about crossing the street than Dominicans in Sosua! They will step out into the road without even thinking of looking to see if a car is coming or not! Its no surprise that so many are killed every year from auto / moto accidentsI must have seen about 200 plus dominicans in the last month and a half that could have been killed or seriously injured doing just what you said. They might be walking or driving, makes no difference. Take driving. They may have a blind spot as they approach an intersection, and instead of stopping and looking both ways, will try to roll through that intersection and almost cause an accident. Or you might come to a corner to make a right (in your own vehicle) , and several motos will pass you on the right to make the same turn, except at the risk of being crushed by the vehicle they are passing. Another classic is when a moto moves from a parked position or turns a corner to enter into traffic, and then only looks to see if it is clear after they get into traffic. It's to the point now, I anticipate most of that stupidity even before it happens.
I watched a video of Sosua night life. What was clear is that there are scores of under 20 sweeties as fresh as new snow. These are the chicas that make me smile
Introduction:
I have recently returned from spending time in the Dominican Republic. I spent 2 days in Sosua. 5 days in Santo Domingo and I returned to Sosua and spent another 5 days. I wasn't going to write another synopsis on Sosua since it has been covered at nauseam but I changed my mindbecause I have some thoughts I'd like to share and I wanted to present a current update for all who were interested. Some of the information contained in this synopsis is well known to veteran mongers but new information to others, my objective is to be as informative as possible to all who are interested. Below I have listed my notes for your review:Thanks for the detailed report. Much appreciated. I will be in Sosua March 14. Hope to see you. Bunda.
Can someone confirm there are Casinos in Sosua.
Please let me know the names / options available.
I have checked on line but can not confirm which are open and which are closed. Thanks
Did anyone do carnaval this year? I saw this interesting article about the KKK marching in Santo Domingo: http://www.7dias.com.do/destacada/2014/03/02/i158897_quien-ministerio-cultura-autorizo-desfile-comparsa-klux-klana.html#.UxZpOSgm1SW
Can someone confirm there are Casinos in Sosua.
Please let me know the names / options available.
I have checked on line but can not confirm which are open and which are closed. ThanksDon't know the name but there is a casino near the beach in town where there is a disco which has some table games and ancient machines.
In addition to this there are other places with machines in town as well.
Totally third world as far as Casino's go in Sosua. Your better pressed to blow your dough on the girls on the Strip!
Charles Pooter
03-05-14, 13:31
Did anyone do carnaval this year? I saw this interesting article about the KKK marching in Santo Domingo:
http://www.7dias.com.do/destacada/2014/03/02/i158897_quien-ministerio-cultura-autorizo-desfile-comparsa-klux-klana.html#.UxZpOSgm1SWI am the last person to defend Dominicans against accusations of racism, but I strongly doubt if those people had any connection with the KKK, and probably have little or no idea what the KKK actually stands for. As far as they were concerned they were just cheap-to-make "spooky" costumes as a change from the usual ghostly or devilish themes. Might well have been black Dominicans inside the costumes, they are just as ignorant and racist as white ones.
A few of my regulars have left Sosua for whatever reason. Others still here I'm cool with but just may not have much interest in getting with them. I'm certain some guys can relate. Some chicas you have more interest in fucking over others. Something about them that makes you get stiff just thinking about fucking them. And you can have others you had good times with, but the "been there done that" type of feeling within kills the desire to get with them. Meanwhile when you run into them, all they are trying to do is get you to take them. They may not care about your reasons. And when you don't, they "act" like you don't like them anymore, or something on that level.
But what concerns me, is I don't want a nut, just to get a nut. And why spend good money if you really arent fully into the chica? I want to enjoy an experience with someone who enhances my vacation. That could be with someone I had before, and my body misses what she puts out, or it could be someone I haven't had before. My preference leans more to taking the risk of experiencing someone I haven't had before.
Well 3/1 there is this young dark Haitian chica with a basketball ass that strolls all over the immediate strip area, also in Rumbas and D'Latins, and around Bar Central. She seems to like wearing a polka dot blouse or something similar, and dark tight jeans that shows off her nice round ass. I may have seen her with tight shorts on but mostly with those jeans. She isn't aggressive, but she makes her presence known because she strolls around the clubs or on the street. You make eye contact and she may be all over you. Had no intel on her, but since she was Haitian I thought perhaps she might be a good performer. NOT!
My situation with her was like buying something, and after you buy it, people who bought the same item come out of nowhere giving you information you could have used before buying the item. I could have used that info. My buddy who left on 2/13 had tried her out, and his experience with her was a thumbs down, then a buddy who showed up yesterday (3/5) he had a similar uneventful experience. Basically 3 guys can attest to her being a cute chica with a nice body, but can't do anything with it. No oral skills, pussy as tight as an asshole, and has no clue what she could do to satisfy a client. Ironically, when my buddy who arrived yesterday saw her, he talked briefly with the chica.
I was standing about 20 ft away, and wanted to warn him, but couldn't. He walked away from her, and when we started walking together, we both started talking about the chica. He started telling me about how she was a lousy experience some time ago, and just when I was about to share my recent experience, the chica came up behind us. Apparently, since she was with both of us, she figured we were probably talking about her in that moment. So she hurried up behind us to see if she could hear what we might be saying about her. She was on my side."What are you talking about?" "I asked her what are you talking about?" She says,"I hear you saying something about me" "I am talking to him, not to you" "I told you before, what happened with us is my problem, didn't I tell you that?" "I told you before, I don't have a problem with you, it was me" "I told you, you are a good woman, we have no problem with each other. I speak to you, even if you think I have a problem with you"
That exchange seemed to squash her concern about us talking about her. So I thought. About an hour and a half later one of the begging kids comes up to me by the German restaurant next to Bar Central, to tell me that a chica hit my car. Now I did have my rental car, but it was parked across from the side entrance of Rumba. Whereas my buddies rental was parked next to the salon around the corner, across from Rockys. I asked the kid where was my car parked. He pointed to where my buddies rental was. My buddy was in Rumba talking to a chica, so before I called him, I took a walk around the corner to see if there was any damage to his car.
I found a slight crease on the back quarter panel, and where the marker light is supposed to be on the front quarter panel, there was a hole where the light should be. I called him after I got back to the restaurant. He made it back to his car and was about to drive off. I told him what the kid said. He got out to look, and said he isn't sure about none of the existing damage. I asked him did he check the car out before he took possession of the car? Apparently he didn't. Said he will bring the car back to the rental guy and find out. I think his rental receipt may indicate any existing damage.
Personally I think it is a bad idea to take possession of any car rental without inspecting it 1st for existing damage. In fact, take pictures of the car. I remember renting from Noel at hotel Seabreeze, and forgetting to do that. The windshield had a crack in it, but I didn't remember if it was there before or after I took possession. The chica at Seabreeze was going to report the damage as something that occurred while the vehicle was in my possession. That was just her protecting her bosses interest. Turns out Noel knew about the damage all along. And that is what saved me from being responsible for damage that wasnt my fault.
Other than that, it's best to get well out of ear shot of chicas who might get easily upset if they think someone is causing them to lose business. She knew the color of my car rental. So if she was responsible for any damage to my buddies rental, she probably was upset with him that he snubbed her on the street. After she tried to convince him to take her. When I was with that chica she was visibly confused and got real quiet that I ended our session and took her back to the strip. She had asked for me to put up with her some more, but I just couldn't. I just wanted to pay her to leave, rather than endure being turned off more than I already was. What a waste of a pretty nice looking chica. I hope for somebody their experience was better, but I doubt it. Good times coming, in the next reports.
Does anyone knows what's the max amount you can withdrawal at one time from Scotia Bank in Sosua. How many Scotia bank and where they located.
I am not in Haitian mode or anything like that, it was just a coincidence I chose her.
This chica was a 180 degree difference from the younger Haitian chica from the previous day. I was sitting at Rumba with another buddy. There were plenty of chicas in there, but many I have been seeing every night that I came to Rumba. It had to be after 10 when I spotted the Haitian chica just about to come in the front entrance. Right off the bat, she looked and carried herself well. She did the usual runway chica stroll through the club towards the bathroom 1st, primp a little and then find a place to set up to capture her prey.
When she walked back towards my direction, I finally got her attention and had her sit with me. To which she seemed delighted that she had captured someones attention so soon. Within minutes, you should have seen the chicas that were passing me. The looks were a combination of why are you with that *****? Or looking at me as someone they would want to spend the night with. Ya know? When you have somebody women act like they want you. When you are by yourself and are available, they pay you less attention. It appeared I managed to garner a lot of attention from other chicas who had been sitting around waiting for company. The way me and her got along, you would have thought we knew each other, and I was waiting for her to get there.
Anyway, we drank and made small talk. Chica was very friendly, and constantly smiling. Teaching me a little french. We finished up, and left. No discussion on price, no discussion on how long. We appeared to be a couple who just met that looked like we wanted to spend time with each other. Kinda reminds of that classic song by Teddy Pendergras "Come And Go With Me". Where Teddy in the song is trying to convince the woman to leave the club and go with him, and how there won't be any kind of pressure, and the woman is finally convinced to go with him, blah blah blah.
Of course were dealing in p4p here, so we know there wasnt going to be any pressure, unless we disagree on something. But that night it was bang zoom. 1st she gave me a great ass massage. And not just some body rub for 5 minutes. She put in some work as if she enjoyed what she was doing. I did the same for her. When we got to the oral, she took as much time as it required to get me off. And her oral skills was on point. The juice box stayed wet throughout the night. Her ass was round and soft. It felt good in your hands. Whether you cupped it when you were on top, from behind or her on top. That other Haitian chica I was with could sure use some lessons from this chica on how to satisfy a man.
Like I said, we never discussed price or how long. She stayed all night, and in the morning paid her 2100 pesos. Put the money in her purse. Chica never even looked at it in my presence, like some chicas do. I ended up dropping her off to her spot. Good experience. May repeat, but when I am ready for her. Saw her again last night at Rumba. Came to our table. Introduced her to my buddy who just arrived. He took her number, but he was still in scope out the talent mode. I told her, another night for us. She smiled and moved on. Cool chica so far.
Me and my buddy was at the beach. At some point we were checking out the chicas at the table near where we were sitting. One of them wearing a black and white stripped one piece outfit got up to leave. She was slim but not skinny. Round ass, nice full kissable lips. As they were passing from a distance, I waved to her. She suddenly turned to come over to us. I took her number and arranged for us to meet 7:30pm at Rumba.
Headed to Rumba to meet her, but while on my way I bump into her by Plan B bar going away from Rumba. I said I thought you were supposed to meet me at Rumba at 7:30? Chica acts clueless about what meeting someone a certain time and place is supposed to mean. She introduces me to the two family members she was walking with. If I hadn't of spotted her walking, I wouldn't have known she was not where she was supposed to be. Like I have said before, a lot of people in this country do not use common sense, or have good communication skills. We were whatsapping each other since we met on the beach, so it didnt make sense for her not to tell me she was not at Rumba, but she clearly wanted us to get together.
I told her in the car, if she wasnt going to be at Rumba at 7:30, then why didn't she call or text me to tell me? Moreover, she was supposed to meet me outside of Rumba, I wasnt going in. I was to scoop her up and we would head to my spot. I just wanted to know what she was thinking. All I got was "baby?" "Baby?"
Anyway, She says goodbye to her family, jumps in and we head towards Rumba. I'm thinking after this blunder, I better feel her out to see what other surprises that may be in store. We have one grande Presidente at Rumba before we leave for my spot.
In my spot, I ask if she's hungry. No, not hungry. Want a beer? Yes. 3 sips later, and a whole bottle of beer still on the night stand. I see I am going to have to buy beer shots for many of these chica, because many of them waste good food and drink. We showered and were off to bed. This chica by far was the most sex ready chica I have had in a long while. The juice box was wet all night long. Normally, I'm cool if I get two sessions in with a TLN chica. But this chica fucked 3 times, and would have fucked a 4th time in the morning if I wanted to. Every where I was in bed, she was right up on me. Kissing and cuddlling. Damn girl can you move on your side of the bed for an hour?
Those lips were suckable as hell. But ironically, she never did any oral on me. I did on her, but she stopped me shortly into it, because she did not want to come that way.
With her never discussed price, or how long. She stayed all night.
I'm sure my place was much more comfortable than her own.
In the morning, paid her 2200 pesos. Put it in her purse. Chica never looked at it in my presence. I could have paid her 2000, but I don't think that would have made a difference. 1500 perhaps would be a problem. She walked home, because her spot is that close to where I am. 22 yrs old, one child. Fun chica, but kinda flaky.
Hey,
I was looking to book a trip when I realized it was the week after Easter. Anybody have any experience on this week? I was looking to fly in the 21st or 22nd. Just want to make sure there will still be plenty of action going on.
Thanks guys.
Thank you WRX2005 for the informative field reports. I am definitely psyched about my upcoming trip. Too bad about that Haitian chick. I'm glad that nobody got hurt. What she did (if she did do it) was very stupid.
Thank you WRX2005 for the informative field reports. I am definitely psyched about my upcoming trip. Too bad about that Haitian chick. I'm glad that nobody got hurt. What she did (if she did do it) was very stupid.She didn't do jack. Whatever I saw was existing damage. My buddy confirmed it with the rental guy. Either the kid had the wrong car or he was trying to get a propina for his fake ass "help".
I lean more towards the latter, especially since he didn't get where my car was parked. And has become somewhat of a seasoned hustler. Found out later the kid had already approached my buddy about somebody supposedly hittting his car.
She didn't do jack.Good, but I have seen shit like this explode. The kid almost got someone hurt. Now you said she has a pussy as tight as an asshole? I don't see that as a bad thing at all. I might have to look her up.
As I prepare for my trip to the DR tomorrow, I've been saddened by the news I have heard over the last month. Two Sosua mainstays have experienced tragedies, and my respect goes out to the families. Out of respect for the families I will not post details but anyone is free to PM me.
Jose; I've rented cars from Jose many times and he has always been a standup guy. His rental spot is next door to New Gardens on the same side of the street. If you leave NG and hang a right and walk 25 steps you will be at Joses office (He also sold cigars). He would usually be standing out front with the money changers or cleaning one of his Honda CRVs in the lot next to NG. Jose always had good cars and would always give me the 40 dollar special that included insurance and taxes. Truly a great guy.
Bill; was known to most guys as he was always the short dude walking everywhere. Bill worked for American airlines in Tampa and once dated a girl from Baileys. Bill moved to the DR 5 years ago and was always there when I went just walking and hanging out. Bill was a short white dude always smiling and walking. Once I'm there I will have verification of what I've heard, even though several sources have also confirmed what I've heard.
Does anyone knows what's the max amount you can withdrawal at one time from Scotia Bank in Sosua. How many Scotia bank and where they located.There used to be a Scotia Bank branch in Sosua, but it has been closed down for maybe more than a year. You have to go to Cabarete or Puerto Plata for SB branches with ATM's. The only SB ATM I know of in Sosua is the one in the Farmacia / Metro bus station right on the corner of the main road (Route 5) and calle Dr. Rosen.
The max allowance from any SB ATM has usually been 10, 000 pesos per withdrawal. That means you would need to make several withdrawals to reach your limit for the day.
For instance. 10, 000 pesos is about 232 US dollars. So if your limit is a $1, 000 US per day. You should be able to make 4 withdrawals of 10, 000 pesos each to get close to your $1, 000 US dollar limit. However, very often the machine may be low on currency or out of service. Which may mean the machine is temporarily out of service because of a problem, or the withdrawal limit will be reduced to a lower amount. Like 5, 000 pesos per withdrawal instead of the 10, 000 pesos. If the SB ATM in Sosua is not available, and you prefer Scotia Bank, the branch in Caberete is closer than the one in Puerto Plata.
Bank of America is supposed to be a sister bank of SB. But since November, I have been charged 3% on my BOA debit card for every withdrawal I made. So a 10, 000 peso withdrawal would give about 232 US, and I would be charged $6. 95 (3%) for the transaction. Bank Of America still waives the $5 foreign transaction charge for each transaction you make. I called the bank directly to verify, since I was accustomed to completely free SB ATM withdrawals prior to Nov 12. I was spoiled when it was free. And was considering on never using the ATM's just to avoid any fees. But now I consider the 3% charge as just another expense I might need to include when I am away from home. Most of the cash I brought on 1/25 is almost spent except for $1,300 US. I don't want to spend it all, so I have been starting to resume using the ATM's so as to have enough peso spending cash, and US cash in case of an emergency. Hope this info helps? (Even if you don't live in the states.)
Mr Enternational
03-06-14, 17:15
Just hopped on Cupid to get ready for my upcoming trip at the end of the month and I'm trying to talk to chicks who I don't even remember fucking before! Chick called me out:
Y cuando vienes otra vez aqui. Ya tu y yo tuvimos sexo una vez recuerda. Yo si recuerdo vinieste con tus amigos m llamste yo fui a sosua y me llevaste a un otel en donde tu estaba y e fui a el otro dia en la mañana
.I'm trying to talk to chicks who I don't even remember fucking before! Chick called me out:I hate it when that happens.
I've been getting my contacts on Cupid, too, and if you can believe half the crap they say on there then I'm going to have a great time. Somehow I'm not sure.
KiteSurfer
03-06-14, 19:13
As I prepare for my trip to the DR tomorrow, I've been saddened by the news I have heard over the last month. Two Sosua mainstays have experienced tragedies, and my respect goes out to the families. Out of respect for the families I will not post details but anyone is free to PM me.
Jose; I've rented cars from Jose many times and he has always been a standup guy. His rental spot is next door to New Gardens on the same side of the street. If you leave NG and hang a right and walk 25 steps you will be at Joses office (He also sold cigars). He would usually be standing out front with the money changers or cleaning one of his Honda CRVs in the lot next to NG. Jose always had good cars and would always give me the 40 dollar special that included insurance and taxes. Truly a great guy.
Bill; was known to most guys as he was always the short dude walking everywhere. Bill worked for American airlines in Tampa and once dated a girl from Baileys. Bill moved to the DR 5 years ago and was always there when I went just walking and hanging out. Bill was a short white dude always smiling and walking. Once I'm there I will have verification of what I've heard, even though several sources have also confirmed what I've heard.Bill was the very first person I asked about when I arrived a few weeks back at Sosua Beach.
The answer was,"Apparently you haven't heard."
In that moment, he was falling in and out of a coma. A person who had visited him in the hospital said he was "out of it," but at least he recognized the person by name.
The fact that he could recognize a face at least gave me some hope. I had been praying for a more positive outcome since the first day on the beach.
Bill was full of life and energy and was in very good shape. Though he drank quite a bit of beer as most of us do, his body easy fell in to the categorie of "buff." He maintained an exercise program each day and had encouraged some young dominican women (near Playa Chiquita) to work with stretch bands to maintain some form of physical fitness. Because I don't go to the gym in this country, I was set to join his exercise routine in some form.
May Bill rest in peace.
KiteSurfer
03-06-14, 22:51
I am happy to report that Bill was able to fly out of the Dominican Republic into Florida.
Bill is rehablitating in or near a hospital in Tampa Bay Florida. A good friend is helping to care for him.
He is now responding at a higher level and interacting with others. Maybe someday he will be able to return to the DR.
Just hopped on Cupid to get ready for my upcoming trip at the end of the month and I'm trying to talk to chicks who I don't even remember fucking before! Chick called me out:Hey at least she remembered you, LOL. I'm thinking about taking that 1 hour flight over to Santiago next week for a few days myself. Good luck.
I am happy to report that Bill was able to fly out of the Dominican Republic into Florida.
Bill is rehablitating in or near a hospital in Tampa Bay Florida. A good friend is helping to care for him.
He is now responding at a higher level and interacting with others. Maybe someday he will be able to return to the DR.Exactly what I'm am hearing, but just getting back to normal will be good. I don't think going back to the DR is a priority. Unfortunately I'm sad to say that Jose was killed in a motorcycle accident, my prayers go out to his family.
I am happy to report that Bill was able to fly out of the Dominican Republic into Florida.
Bill is rehablitating in or near a hospital in Tampa Bay Florida. A good friend is helping to care for him.
He is now responding at a higher level and interacting with others. Maybe someday he will be able to return to the DR.Thanks for the update on Bill! I hope he recovers!
Good, but I have seen shit like this explode. The kid almost got someone hurt. Now you said she has a pussy as tight as an asshole? I don't see that as a bad thing at all. I might have to look her up.It could have escalated into someone or people getting hurt or arrested. The chica, my buddy or maybe one of the chicas haitian friends (male or female) nearby waiting to come to her defense. As far as the pussy? There is something for everybody. When your turn comes, go get her tiger.
My restaurant on the playa chica came over last night. And like the other night, she beat me to my spot. Once in my spot though she pulls out of her purse a 7" off brand tablet and an Orange hotspot gadget. I asked where she got the tablet? She said she bought it with her money working. And she claimed she paid 2mil pesos for the Orange hotspot gadget. Yeah right! I am fairly certain what was more truth, is that some dude gifted her the tablet, and they or someone else paid the 2mil for the Orange hotspot. Nice gifts. I doubt seriously a chica who can't even endure the cost of a phone call will pay 2mil for something they don't even know how to use.
But the problem is, sadly the chica can barely read or write beyond a elementary level. Had no clue how to use the tablet. Nor how to connect her tablet with the hotspot gadget. I connected her to my wifi in my spot, and tried to help her get started using the tablet. Came to a stalemate when it came to her understanding how to use the tablet and putting apps on the device. The tablet language was already in spanish, but it didn't make a difference, everything about the tablet was a mystery to her.
Kinda reminds me of one of those Cubadave videos where he talks about some chica getting an iphone and a computer from a dude but didn't know how to work any of them.
Later chica claims to want to talk about me exclusively dealing with her and no other chicas. Her goal? To make sure more dinero and benefits come her way, instead of distributed elsewhere. Even if she has other dudes already in that mode, the idea is to get as many as she can to support that bullshit. Guys have to be aware of the position they are in. Especially if you only see the chica when you are there on vacation. You would think that no guys would fall for this. But the truth is, there are many dudes that do. They justify it, that the chica needs help, but totally blow off the idea that the chica has got more men on the program than they know. She's not your girl, she's just your turn.
Meanwhile I nicely explained to her that I'm not here to be exclusive with anybody. And to buttress my position I explained to her how I can't trust women here anyway. Gave her solid examples to boot. To which she gave the usual excuses you hear from chicas. They usually revert to how grim life is, how much they have to endure caring for their children etc blah blah blah. But they conveniently block out that none of that has jack to do with what the man is discussing in regards to their character and behavior. There are too many cons than pros. The constant lies, them misrepresenting their real intentions, their lack of education, their poor communication, their lack of common sense, and in enough cases their poor domestic skills.
Other than laying flat, many chicas don't have much to offer. But hope their target will want to be a Captain SAH. Their main source of income is p4p with as many guys that is necessary before going back home. No way are any of these chicas going to settle for one dude exclusive, if they arent getting enough to make up for what several dudes can provide.
BTW, I dropped her off to the taxi stand, hopefully both of us with the understanding that we are strictly p4p, and at the same rate we already established. No more of that other bullshit about loving me or missing me, or wanting a relationship.
Manizales911
03-08-14, 17:34
But the problem is, sadly the chica can barely read or write beyond a elementary level. Had no clue how to use the tablet. Nor how to connect her tablet with the hotspot gadget. I connected her to my wifi in my spot, and tried to help her get started using the tablet. Came to a stalemate when it came to her understanding how to use the tablet and putting apps on the device. The tablet language was already in spanish, but it didn't make a difference, everything about the tablet was a mystery to her.Wrx2005, thanks for taking the time to post all the insightful reports.
Don't be surprised upon your return that she can use that tablet as well as anyone. I am constantly surprised by how well these girls use their smartphones and tablets. They may be totally uneducated and can't spell worth a damn etc. But one thing they have more than us is all the time in the world and will sit there for hours on end and play with those things, also they will "network" with their friends until they have it all figured out. I travel with an Iphone, Ipad and laptop out of necessity and let the girls use them freely and I am constantly amazed at how well versed these girls are at using these things.
For the last few years I have stuck to a rotation of about eight or ten girls that have proven their worth to me rather than a constant hunt while also mixing in a few new girls. Because of this I have gotten to know many of these girls quite well and with only one exception they ALL have western union novios and several have more than one. There are more Captain Save A Hoe's than one could possibly imagine, I could write for hours about the stories I have heard, it absolutely blows my mind.
My restaurant on the playa chica came over last night. And like the other night, she beat me to my spot. Once in my spot though she pulls out of her purse a 7" off brand tablet and an Orange hotspot gadget. I asked where she got the tablet? She said she bought it with her money working. And she claimed she paid 2mil pesos for the Orange hotspot gadget. Yeah right! I am fairly certain what was more truth, is that some dude gifted her the tablet, and they or someone else paid the 2mil for the Orange hotspot. Nice gifts. I doubt seriously a chica who can't even endure the cost of a phone call will pay 2mil for something they don't even know how to use.
But the problem is, sadly the chica can barely read or write beyond a elementary level. Had no clue how to use the tablet. Nor how to connect her tablet with the hotspot gadget. I connected her to my wifi in my spot, and tried to help her get started using the tablet. Came to a stalemate when it came to her understanding how to use the tablet and putting apps on the device. The tablet language was already in spanish, but it didn't make a difference, everything about the tablet was a mystery to her.
Kinda reminds me of one of those Cubadave videos where he talks about some chica getting an iphone and a computer from a dude but didn't know how to work any of them...What restaurant do you own my friend?
Kinda reminds me of one of those Cubadave videos where he talks about some chica getting an iphone and a computer from a dude but didn't know how to work any of them.You've been reporting from Sosua for awhile now. How long are you there for?
Does anyone know if any of the massage places that were closed reopened?
It's funny that it's ok to sell pussy but it's against the law to give a massage.
I am a regular to Bangkok and one of my daytime activities there includes getting a massage (sometimes with more mileage than other times). I hope I can do the same here.
I plan on doing sightseeing, beach activities, and other daytime stuff too.
Wrx2005, thanks for taking the time to post all the insightful reports.
Don't be surprised upon your return that she can use that tablet as well as anyone. I am constantly surprised by how well these girls use their smartphones and tablets. They may be totally uneducated and can't spell worth a damn etc. But one thing they have more than us is all the time in the world and will sit there for hours on end and play with those things, also they will "network" with their friends until they have it all figured out. I travel with an Iphone, Ipad and laptop out of necessity and let the girls use them freely and I am constantly amazed at how well versed these girls are at using these things.I would agree. They very soon learn how to download apps like Facebook, Skype, and Whatsapp and to use them effectively. Better than me.
The Orange hotspot would need to have a SIM card and an associated account and password with some prepaid data on it to be able to work, but if she has those things, they should be able to get it going for her in the Orange store. 3 gigs of data for a week would be about 320 pesos that can be bought and added to the device the same way you buy and add phone minutes. Perhaps that is what she did not know.
She would need the E5220 (costs 2390 pesos) to send a signal to an Android tablet device, as the USB dongles only work with Windows as far as I know, or with the sharing router.
http://www.orange.com.do/web/internet/equipos-y-modems
Does anyone know if any of the massage places that were closed reopened?
It's funny that it's ok to sell pussy but it's against the law to give a massage.It is not against the law to give a massage, but as in many other countries, there are licensing requirements for hygiene and so on. Most of the massage places that were closed down were just prostitution fronts that did not have a salon license.
There are still several places open where you can get massages. M&M massage is usually considered the best, but there are several others.
If you want a fake massage plus sex in the daytime, you can get them at Belkis Salon or at a place at the back entrance of Casa Marina run by two chicas both called Rosa. I think it is called Salon Rosa. They have a room up an alley at the back where you can go for a shag.
Perfect, and thank you Frannie.
Manizales911
03-08-14, 21:48
The Orange hotspot would need to have a SIM card and an associated account and password with some prepaid data on it to be able to work, but if she has those things, they should be able to get it going for her in the Orange store. 3 gigs of data for a week would be about 320 pesos that can be bought and added to the device the same way you buy and add phone minutes. Perhaps that is what she did not know.
She would need the E5220 (costs 2390 pesos) to send a signal to an Android tablet device, as the USB dongles only work with Windows as far as I know, or with the sharing router.
http://www.orange.com.do/web/internet/equipos-y-modemsI might get one of these. On my last trip to the DR the internet went out where I was staying and the girl I was with pulled out an Orange hotspot and I was able to use it with my IPad, it worked great.
Tempoecorto
03-08-14, 22:16
For the last few years I have stuck to a rotation of about eight or ten girls that have proven their worth to me rather than a constant hunt while also mixing in a few new girls. Because of this I have gotten to know many of these girls quite well and with only one exception they ALL have western union novios and several have more than one. There are more Captain Save A Hoe's than one could possibly imagine, I could write for hours about the stories I have heard, it absolutely blows my mind.This is not meant to be flaming you. I find that the term "Save a Hoe" often is used in a deprecating manner. People willingly or unwittingly sending money to the women does not necessarily mean it is a bad thing or that such people are not as smart as the non. SAH kinds. They may have more money or are into such esoteric concept as generosity. I would have to presume that the donors believe or have some kind of a perception of a payback. No matter how implausible or unreal it may appear to the outsiders.
Manizales911
03-08-14, 23:37
This is not meant to be flaming you. I find that the term "Save a Hoe" often is used in a deprecating manner. People willingly or unwittingly sending money to the women does not necessarily mean it is a bad thing or that such people are not as smart as the non. SAH kinds. They may have more money or are into such esoteric concept as generosity. I would have to presume that the donors believe or have some kind of a perception of a payback. No matter how implausible or unreal it may appear to the outsiders.No problem Tempoecorto, it's all good and you can flame me anytime you want to, I have thick skin from being on these forums for many years.
I only used that term as my post was in response to a post where the term was used and wanted to be consistent with the reference being made.
That said, though I agree that there are situations whereby sending money to a non pro or a sex provider isn't necessarily being a captain SAH, most of the situations that I have seen the sender is being suckered for every peso sent and it happens more than anyone thinks that it does. Most of the better looking girls in the P4P business have at least one Captain SAH on the hook.
Just one example, about five years ago I was riding in a taxi with a long time BB's girl and another girl. We're all a bit drunk, talking, laughing etc. When the BB's girl phone rings and she tells us to be quiet, it's her american novio,"baby I love you, I miss you", blah blah blah. All the while this girl has her hand up my shorts with a firm grip on my crank, hahaha.
Because of this I have gotten to know many of these girls quite well and with only one exception they ALL have western union novios and several have more than one. There are more Captain Save A Hoe's than one could possibly imagine, I could write for hours about the stories I have heard, it absolutely blows my mind.I met a guy in Sosua from Detroit last summer and this guy had big bank. He would pop bottles in D'Latin and tip everyone. The girls got big tips. One day he felt relaxed enough to tell me that a girl in Sosua broke his heart. He was a western union novio and she told him she was going to stay off the streets of Sosua. One day he came into town without telling her he was going to be there and busted her working the strip. The guy was still shaken up about this. Not sure why he chose to send a puta money in the first place, but its his money and not mine. There have been many similar stories told over the years.
I met a guy in Sosua from Detroit last summer and this guy had big bank. He would pop bottles in D'Latin and tip everyone. The girls got big tips. One day he felt relaxed enough to tell me that a girl in Sosua broke his heart. He was a western union novio and she told him she was going to stay off the streets of Sosua. One day he came into town without telling her he was going to be there and busted her working the strip. The guy was still shaken up about this. Not sure why he chose to send a puta money in the first place, but its his money and not mine. There have been many similar stories told over the years.Exactly! What would be an educated guess of how many men the average regular has per year. (A girl who is almost always there you are, haha) Seriously was just thinking about this and said to myself "wow, if she just had two guys per week what would that come to over 300 dicks, Believe me there are many girls who if not over this number they are close!
By far most women who I have seen totally taken care of in the DR fucks it up. (Cannot take the hoeing out of them) If you guys really want to help these girls there is an old saying teach a man how to fish, well you know the rest. Well try to give them some financial advice. (98% of them will never listen) Sending them money does not help them. Most men have egos even in the Dominican Republic cannot tell a man shit about "HIS" Woman. He always thinks his girl would never, or she is different. If there is anything that makes men stupid is the belief that he is different and so is his girl. Most men in Europe and America have this mentality about their wives and women back home.
If you want a fake massage plus sex in the daytime, you can get them at Belkis Salon or at a place at the back entrance of Casa Marina run by two chicas both called Rosa. I think it is called Salon Rosa. They have a room up an alley at the back where you can go for a shag.If staying at the Casa Marina will they allow you to come and go through that back entrance? When I have stayed there I always went through by the front desk. Does that building you are talking about rent out rooms for overnight stay?
They are 1 chica in Sosua that I like very well and she makes me very happy sexually and socially but when I see her out working she is always in the shadows and never up front strutting her stuff which I know would make her more money because she is so fine. I have up until here recently thought she was just on low profile but after reading all these post and evaluating the situation at hand I think she stays out of the light in fear of her western union men knowing she is out there. Not sure
I have not contacted this girl since I have been home although she gave me all her info. I don't want her hitting me up to do the same as others are doing but I defiantly want to fuck her when I go back.
I have a nice girl who works a regular job and goes to school with a baby I have been emailing since I left and so far she has not ask me for anything but I think she is thinking commitment out of me. She is one of the girls who cooked for me at there home and she is to me not the kind who is fucking everybody. But who the fuck really knows
Wrx2005, thanks for taking the time to post all the insightful reports.
Don't be surprised upon your return that she can use that tablet as well as anyone. I am constantly surprised by how well these girls use their smartphones and tablets. They may be totally uneducated and can't spell worth a damn etc. But one thing they have more than us is all the time in the world and will sit there for hours on end and play with those things, also they will "network" with their friends until they have it all figured out. I travel with an Iphone, Ipad and laptop out of necessity and let the girls use them freely and I am constantly amazed at how well versed these girls are at using these things.
For the last few years I have stuck to a rotation of about eight or ten girls that have proven their worth to me rather than a constant hunt while also mixing in a few new girls. Because of this I have gotten to know many of these girls quite well and with only one exception they ALL have western union novios and several have more than one. There are more Captain Save A Hoe's than one could possibly imagine, I could write for hours about the stories I have heard, it absolutely blows my mind.I kinda expect her to learn how to use some features of the tablet for what interests her. But I also expect she will have to get a lot of help to get the most out of her tablet. She'll need a gmail account so she can put more apps on the device.
OTOH, I have seen enough chicas much sharper when it comes to using phones, laptops, the internet, than this chica. This chica has a long way to go. At some point she even admitted that she needs to go back to school. Because when we were trying to communicate using the translator, she just couldn't express a complete thought, nor could she comprehend what I conveyed to her with the help of the translator. Many of the words translated in spanish were words she never learned.
LatinaLover#1
03-09-14, 04:48
Some advice for the guys who are relative new-bees or maybe even some vets. Who have forgotten some of the rules in this hobby.
"If you fall in love in The D. R, C. R, Brazil, Colombia or Peru ect ect, You are falling in love by YOURSELF"
Having a girlfriend in another country is ok, I've had my share over the years but even though I thought about them the entire flight home, I always assumed they were doing exactly what they pleased when I wasn't there. Don't get me wrong there is an exception to every rule but your probably not the exception.
Latin women are a complex bunch. They will never love you back unless they respect you, they won't respect you unless you take complete control of the relationship. Sure you need to show concern for them and their families but you better be prepared to say 'NO' a lot more then you say 'Yes' if you want respect. Forget about the way you romance an American woman. In Latin America the man is El Rey!
What restaurant do you own my friend?I do not own a restaurant.
You've been reporting from Sosua for awhile now. How long are you there for?I arrived 1/25 and I'm leaving next week. I'm sure I'll be back towards the end of April. By then I should be able to take care of a few things in the US, and get right back to paradise for a 2 or 3 week stint.
They are 1 chica in Sosua that I like very well and she makes me very happy sexually and socially but when I see her out working she is always in the shadows and never up front strutting her stuff which I know would make her more money because she is so fine. I have up until here recently thought she was just on low profile but after reading all these post and evaluating the situation at hand I think she stays out of the light in fear of her western union men knowing she is out there. Not sure
I have not contacted this girl since I have been home although she gave me all her info. I don't want her hitting me up to do the same as others are doing but I defiantly want to fuck her when I go back.
I have a nice girl who works a regular job and goes to school with a baby I have been emailing since I left and so far she has not ask me for anything but I think she is thinking commitment out of me. She is one of the girls who cooked for me at there home and she is to me not the kind who is fucking everybody. But who the fuck really knowsMyself and a few of my friends were having a discussion on the beach. We were generally in agreement to this. There are three main areas that are important to ENOUGH dominican women. 1) Financial. 2) having a family (with or without a father in the household ).3) And emotional / social support.
The men typically most sought for financial support are the foreigners, Gringos. Thats their role to provide finances and benefits. The role of the dominican men (the good ones or the bad ones or neutral) are to father the dominican womens children. And the dominican womans friends and family, their role is provide the emotional and social support system.
Enough foreign / gringo men don't know the role they fit in. They want to be the womans emotional and social support system, but they (enough dominican women) don't need or seek that from foreign men. They get that from their family and friends. When they want children, they seek dominican men. We have heard many dominican women claim they don't like dominican men. But what they really mean IMO, is they don't have a problem having children with dominican men. They are proud of that. What they may not like about dominican men is that for the most part, enough dominican men fall short when it comes to providing the financial support the women crave / need. The essential financial support as well as what they lust from watching how people live elsewhere in the world.
And thats where the foreign men have value to enough DR women. So the average foreigner / Gringo needs to know what role is expected of him, and not fool himself into trying to fulfill a role that is not required or sought from him. Also he should factor in and pay attention to, what happens with the DR womans interest the moment his financial support ceases or is never provided. Watch how fast the dominican womans interest in that foreigner fades or is non existent. No matter what DR women may say about DR men, they are not going to stop having children by dominican men. Thats the Dr mans role, to father the children. The foreigners role is to provide the benefits / financial support. And friends and family are the emotional and social support system.
Keep that in mind, and you won't be walking around playing the wrong role. Or thinking your value / presence is worth more to the average DR woman, than your financial contribution to her livelyhood.
Mr Enternational
03-09-14, 07:28
The men typically most sought for financial support are the foreigners, Gringos. Thats their role to provide finances and benefits. The role of the dominican men (the good ones or the bad ones or neutral) are to father the dominican womens children. And the dominican womans friends and family, their role is provide the emotional and social support system.I tell you what. I have been dealing with this one chick in Puerto Plata for a couple of years. Every so often we butt heads. She says look, you always just want to fuck but I need to be taken care of. I tell her if you want to be a hooker then I don't mind paying you straight up. She always gets angry saying she is not a hooker.
Then she has a couple of kids by a Dominican guy. He takes care of his kids. I can never go to her house because (and I have heard this from other chicks before) if she brings a man there the money gets cut off. This is the part I can never get. We were planing to do something together at the end of the month. The other day she says,"You can come. We are going to be together, don't worry. But you know what I want. A responsible man in every sense." I asked what every sense was. She said,"Responsible. A home. A man that can love me and take care of my kids." I said but you said they already have a father. She said,"Look, if you want to be with me my kids are part of the package. If you don't feel the same then it is best not to come or look for a woman who does not have kids." So whenever she has a new boyfriend, the kids from the previous guy(s) become the new guy's responsibility and the real father is let off the hook? Or does this only hold if the new guy is a foreigner?
Met her yesterday in front of the liquor store near the corner of PC & Dr Rosen. She was wearing a nice black and white long striped dress. Gave her sexy curves. She was quite friendly, so I took her number. Already had plans for the evening so I suggested a tentative plan of us getting together the next night. We arranged to get together around 7:30. I was riding my bike back to my spot from the playa, but decided to call her since I suspected she was somewhere on the strip already. Called and she was at Rumba. I met her there, had some beer and talked outside in the parking lot where the outdoor tables are.
With her was her cousin. Were all smiles, and getting along. This chica, I haven't seen her before in Sosua, and from the conversation her cousin had not spent much time in Sosua before either. And yet I'm impressed by the chica network they belong to, because they were staying at the Isla hotel where many chicas that come to "work" stay. Against my better judgement I offered for both women to come to my spot. After a few minutes, my chica is ready to take a shower. Suddenly she didn't seem to be the new to Sosua chica I thought she might be. She seemed quite comfortable in what she was about to do.
And her cousin who hung out in the living room watching TV told us to have fun. About 35 minutes later, both of us emerged from the bedroom, each taking separate showers. The chica was dressed in an instant. Now the situation is coming full swing. Earlier, you would have thought her and I might spend some time together down the road the way we were carrying on at Rumba's. Her cousin (who understood english very well) even suggested, that if I wanted her cousin to come up from SD, all I have to do is call, and she will be happy to come.
I remembered that statement then. But now what we have here is a chica ready to get paid. This is another one of those instances where I went on the vibe I had with the chica and decided not to negotiate for services, but to let my experience guide me. I thought, $1500 was fair for ST. But I gave her 500 pesos more because she sucked to completion. It's a good thing when you finally run across a chica that really knows what she is doing orally. However, this chica wasnt too smooth at the time of getting paid, and now showed some signs of greed.
I folded 2 mil and gave it to her. This chica slowly put the money in her purse and made a dash for the bathroom. She was obvious as hell. The only reason she bolted for the bano was to check for how much I gave her. When she came out of the bathroom she said something to her cousin. Then the chica starts off with. She says "baby?" "Baby?" "Can you give me 500 pesos more please?" Since she flipped all pro on me, I flipped on her as well."Amor, you were here less than an hour and got dos mil pesos, and you want me to give you more?" I think my response caught her off guard. Since we were all laughing and joking prior to getting to my spot.
She quickly said "it's no problem baby". Dropped them both off. We all said good night, and that was the end of that. When we were at Rumbas you would have thought we were an item or something. After getting out of the car, it was clear that was going to be a one and done episode. The chica was decent in bed. But found out in the bedroom that she smokes. Smelled cigarettes all in her grill. Fortunately when it came to smoking my sausage, I didn't have any issues with cigarette breath.
Meanwhile several chicas I have been with in the last few days are being seen walking with other dudes, but seemingly embarrassed that I see them but arent paying them any mind. It's like they don't know how to take that because they are used to lying to keep from being exposed. Take "round ass" for example. One night about 3 weeks ago, I called her on the phone to find out if she was available. She said yes. I said where are you know, and she says she is home. I said ok, I will come by to pick you up. Well, I decided to drive to her place and wait outside. I was doing something with my phones, and felt I can park in front and simply wait for her to get ready. About 10 minutes later, guess who shows up on a moto? It's round ass. Later when she got in the car, I asked her why she felt she had to lie about already being home? All I got out of her was DR gibberish.
For some reason, some of these chicas just can't tell the truth for simple shit. I told her way in the beginning that I am not concerned about her working in Sosua or her having clients. But in spite of that understanding, she will still lie when the truth with do. And thats not the only time either. She told me she was home another time, but in order to get to her spot she had to pass where I was standing. She tried to duck behind a van, but I ended up spotting her anyway. LOL. I didn't give a shit. I just wanted to fuck her round ass.
So for the past few days, I have been seeing a few of my chicas walking around with guys. Walking ahead or behind so it doesn't look like they are together. One chica I know made me and my buddy laugh. It was my galaxy girl who was with a guy. The guy was lounging on the beach. She left him briefly to go to the bathroom, and as she passed me on the way back to the guy, she didn't look in my direction, and acted like she didn't see or hear me from 10 ft away. All I said is hello. The very next day, she spots me on the beach, and were about 150ft away, and she is waving and cheesing at me like nothing happened yesterday. Shit was funny as hell. Meanwhile I think those chicas I know who are with other men, but still acknowledge you or even give a quick hello, I think thats cool. I in turn do the same when I am with another chica. I don't blank out or ignore a chica, just because I'm with somebody else. Of course I understand why enough of them play these games, or feel the need to lie, but it sure is comical all the effort they put in trying to convince you of their loyalty and devotion, and how much you are missed when you both arent together.
Mr Enternational
03-09-14, 07:57
I find that the term "Save a Hoe" often is used in a deprecating manner.As well it should be.
People willingly or unwittingly sending money to the women does not necessarily mean it is a bad thing or that such people are not as smart as the non. SAH kinds. They may have more money or are into such esoteric concept as generosity. I would have to presume that the donors believe or have some kind of a perception of a payback. No matter how implausible or unreal it may appear to the outsiders.A mark set up for a long con is still a mark. And when you are being a WU novio that is exactly what you are. Did you meet this woman on the strip in Sosua? Did you give her money after the first time you fucked her? Are you now sending her money through electronic transfer? If you have answered yes to all of these questions then you are indeed trying to Save a Hoe.
Did you originally meet this girl through other means? You say she has never talked about things she needs with the undertone (or by explicitly saying) that you should get them for her? You have been to and are allowed to stay in this woman's home? This woman has a normal 9-to-5 job? Are you now sending her money through electronic transfer? You are just a regular boyfriend trying to help your lady out. Many people get jobs overseas and send money back to their family to help them out. You pretty much fall into this category. Yet and still, I would not be found doing it.
One thing to ask yourself before you start sending money by electronic transfer is WIDTAH (Would I Do This At Home)? If you met a chick under the same circumstances back where you live would you still be inclined to do this type of thing? The real truth is that no matter what kind of esoteric concepts you claim to be privy to, back home you wouldn't be tempted (read caught dead) trying to date/financially support someone who hasn't graduated high school (hence has sub-par literacy) ,sitting on their ass every day with no job and not even attempting to look for one, and SOLD you pussy the first time you laid eyes on them. A lie don't care who tell it.
Mr Enternational
03-09-14, 08:35
I folded 2 mil and gave it to her. This chica slowly put the money in her purse and made a dash for the bathroom. She was obvious as hell. The only reason she bolted for the bano was to check for how much I gave her. When she came out of the bathroom she said something to her cousin. Then the chica starts off with. She says "baby?" "Baby?" "Can you give me 500 pesos more please?" Since she flipped all pro on me, I flipped on her as well."Amor, you were here less than an hour and got dos mil pesos, and you want me to give you more?" I think my response caught her off guard. She quickly said "it's no problem baby".You handled that well. No matter what the amount, I would have said well I always give X for short time, but I already gave you X+500 because you sucked me so good.
Funinthesun63
03-09-14, 09:39
Does anyone knows what's the max amount you can withdrawal at one time from Scotia Bank in Sosua. How many Scotia bank and where they located.Last time I was in Sosua, I tried the Scotia Bank atm up at the pharmacia / Metro bus stop & could only withdraw 5000 pesos. It was a Sunday night and maybe the limit was reduced for the weekend. This was end of February. Back in early January, I was able to get 10, 000 pesos per withdrawl but don't remember what day of the week I used it. I am told the limit per withdrawl at the ScotiaBank branch in Cabarete is 12, 000 pesos per withdrawl. Possibly, having a ScotiaBank card may make a difference, which I do not have. My wingman does, and pays no fees for atm withdrawls.
Seems to me all banks in Sosua are reducing their withdrawl limits and forcing us to pay more in fees. I checked several banks & the most I could get per withdrawl is 5000 pesos, unless you hold a debit card & account with the bank, then it might be sightly more.
Mr Enternational
03-09-14, 09:48
Seems to me all banks in Sosua are reducing their withdrawl limits and forcing us to pay more in fees. I checked several banks & the most I could get per withdrawl is 5000 pesos, unless you hold a debit card & account with the bank, then it might be sightly more.This is not just Sosua, this is the entire country. I reported on this a couple of months ago. Time to start bringing cash to exchange, unless you can bear the brunt of paying $4 for every $115 (3%) that you take out plus the charges of your home bank.
I arrived 1/25 and I'm leaving next week. I'm sure I'll be back towards the end of April. By then I should be able to take care of a few things in the US, and get right back to paradise for a 2 or 3 week stint.You're leaving before the 14th? Damn. I was hoping to get a chance to chat and buy you a beer or a drink.
Last time I was in Sosua, I tried the Scotia Bank atm up at the pharmacia / Metro bus stop & could only withdraw 5000 pesos. It was a Sunday night and maybe the limit was reduced for the weekend. This was end of February. Back in early January, I was able to get 10, 000 pesos per withdrawl but don't remember what day of the week I used it. I am told the limit per withdrawl at the ScotiaBank branch in Cabarete is 12, 000 pesos per withdrawl. Possibly, having a ScotiaBank card may make a difference, which I do not have. My wingman does, and pays no fees for atm withdrawls.
Seems to me all banks in Sosua are reducing their withdrawl limits and forcing us to pay more in fees. I checked several banks & the most I could get per withdrawl is 5000 pesos, unless you hold a debit card & account with the bank, then it might be sightly more.I too have used that SB ATM at the farmacia / bus station and could only withdraw a maximum of 5, 000 pesos per transaction. I believe the amount can be reduced for ALL ATM's for many reasons. Expected heavy tourist usage because of high season. Superbowl week generated extremely heavy usage. Heavy usage during the weekend like you said. Or perhaps when the machine has dispensed a certain amount of currency, and reaches a certain level, it automatically changes how much can be dispensed so it doesn't run out of money as fast. Once it can't meet any demand for cash, perhaps it registers the "temporarily out of service" message. I suspect that a certain time the next day, the machines are refilled and up and running again.
The Sosua SB ATM, I have got 5, 000 pesos one visit, and the next day was back to getting the 10, 000 max. Next time I use the ATM in PP I will check to see if I can get 12, 000 pesos max. I swear I tried to get above 10k before, and the machines wouldn't do it. Maybe it will dispense that amount for those with SB cards?
Having a SB card should make a difference. However, that also means having an account, and putting money in that account. I can bypass that by simply bringing enough US currency for the time I am in country, and go to the exchange places that give the maximum rate, which will be higher than the bank. For instance. Knowing I was going to be in the country from 1/25 until 2/27 I brought a little more than $5, 000 us cash. This is the 1st time staying this long so I wasnt sure how much I would need for that time frame. I changed my return date to mid March. That meant I would be spending more money towards my stay. I had to pay for the extra days towards my car rental, I bought a bicycle, and I paid for March rent for my spot. These expenditures as well as now having to spend more for chicas, and everything else, caused me to hit the ATM on 3 occasions. A total of 12 transactions, each 10, 000 pesos.
Early in my vacation, when I had most of my US cash, I started off taking 2, 000 US and went to get it exchanged at the place that IMO has the highest rate (one of the places where the change guys go ). That is Banco Providential on PC, across from Sinatras restaurant. Between Maui Mau and the small mercado. They tend to have the best rate around, but they are flaky when it comes to when they will exchange and how much. I think they cator more to businesses and the "change" guys. Sometimes they will tell you to come back at a certain hour. I think that is to discourage you.
Or tell you they can only exchange half of what you push through the window. Like in my case, they exchanged 1, 000 US instead of the 2, 000 I pushed through the window. Thats why I will always push more cash through the window than I really intend to exchange. That way if they turn me down for the full amount, I may end up exchanging what I wanted in the 1st place. The next place with a good rate, but slightly less than this bank, is the exchange place in the rear of the plaza where Orange is, next door to M & M massage.
After that, Western Union. After that, the Playero supermarket. In all instances a passport may be required. I did not use a passport at the one behind Orange, but I would recommend bringing it (or at least a copy) just in case.
There is a dominican gentleman named Mapello. (809) 491-3024. He is the mobile exchange guy. He often gives rates better than any of the other exchange guys. Maybe the same or better than WU. His rates will fluctuate along with the international daily rate. He is always on the move, often walking at a swift pace. And nobody fucks with him even though he carries a shit load of cash on his person. Lets say you are at the beach, New Garden / Baileys / Rockys but need money exchanged. This gentleman will get to you within a few minutes and exchange decent amounts of cash in an instant.
I was chillin at the playa one day, intending to go to WU to exchange. I didn't really want to leave the playa. So I called Mapello and told him I'm at #blah blah blah on the playa, I need to exchange money. He was there in less than 15 minutes. He exchanged $1, 000 US right there on the playa. Saved me from having to leave to go to WU. Now thats convenience. His rate at the time was $42. 80 (early February ). I spotted him about a week and half ago and asked him what his rate was then. He was giving 43 to 1 US. Not bad. And the best part is, he will come to you if you are in the local area.
I said but you said they already have a father. She said,"Look, if you want to be with me my kids are part of the package. If you don't feel the same then it is best not to come or look for a woman who does not have kids." So whenever she has a new boyfriend, the kids from the previous guy(s) become the new guy's responsibility and the real father is let off the hook? Or does this only hold if the new guy is a foreigner?I think the bottom line is, enough women (not all) generally have a meter attached to their pussies. It just doesn't sit well having a man fucking them, and having a good ass time, but him not compensating them in some manner that satisfies their egos. Even if the father is taking care of his kids with her, another man enjoying her pussy but not compensating her, just doesn't sit well con / subconsciously with enough women.
It's like you are getting the benefit of enjoying an amusement park ride but not paying for it like the other patrons on the ride or those waiting their turn to pay and ride. The DR men have already provided the children. Their job is done. If she can get the foreigner to play his expected role, that foreigner can be guilted or charmed into taking on another mans responsibility in it's entirety. If successful, she has her children by DR men for heritage purposes, and then she can have her foreigner supply the "superior" financial or status benefits the DR man may not have, or the female does not feel the DR man can be relied on for.
Plus DR men may come off as resenting the DR womans focus seemingly mostly about money. Thats too much work trying to make DR women happy. Often DR men start off with good intentions ( taking care of their children ) , but may drop off, or may not be relied on for whatever reasons. Not to mention, foreign men generally come off as being more compassionate towards the dominican female. Something that stimulates interest in the DR female to seek out foreign men.
In your case, I suspect the woman is reasonably attractive. Enough so, whereas she feels confident enough that she can find another dude to be attracted to her, and willing to go through some form of her obstacle course in order to get to that pussy. Even if the benefits are short lived, the DR female usually gets by because she usually has her family and friends for support. Besides they are used to being alone. They can always get somebody to fuck them. That aint a problem. They can live like they are playing a bad football game. They may never get to the goal line, but they can play ( p4p ) just to get a "1st down" with each new guy they encounter. Each new guy is another "1st down". A woman can live like that for a lifetime. It can be with a foreigner or another unsuspecting DR man who initially thinks he just struck gold.
I forgot to add. Many DR women claim once they have children, especially more than one, many DR men avoid them like they have the plague. And that may be another reason why enough DR women seek out foreign men. They have hope that a foreigner with his superior benefits and financial standings may come to their rescue ( whether he knows it or not ) to support her children/family.
You're leaving before the 14th? Damn. I was hoping to get a chance to chat and buy you a beer or a drink.Buying drinks is a nice gesture. Not necessary to entice me to meet for conversation, but thanks for the thought. Perhaps one day we'll both be there at the same time to have that chat?
Time to start bringing cash to exchange, unless you can bear the brunt of paying $4 for every $115 (3%) that you take out plus the charges of your home bank.Exactly. Which is what I just wrote about.
Buying drinks is a nice gesture. Not necessary to entice me to meet for conversation, but thanks for the thought. Perhaps one day we'll both be there at the same time to have that chat?Looking forward to it. Have a safe trip.
You handled that well. No matter what the amount, I would have said well I always give X for short time, but I already gave you X+500 because you sucked me so good.What you said comes off better. I thought about giving her props like that. But then I also put in a lot of work to make her come orally too. And she took just as long to come as I did. So technically I thought she had a lot of nerve to be asking me for more money after all the work I put in too. Or perhaps my jaw was pretty raw at the time, and I couldn't get the words out the way you mentioned. LOL.
I also put in a lot of work to make her come orally too.See its guys like you. Now I know why the girls in D'Latin are asking dudes if they eat Dominican sushi O_o
Looking forward to it. Have a safe trip.Funny you should say that. I feel now, like I am taking a trip back to the states as if I'm going on vacation there, but I live in the DR. Not the other way around.
See its guys like you. Now I know why the girls in D'Latin are asking dudes if they eat Dominican sushi O_oSeriously, they are asking guys if they eat pussy? I have never been asked that by any DR woman. And no DR woman has to ask me that. Especially if she was attractive enough for me to choose her in the 1st place. She just better not be so fine that I want her ass too.
She just better not be so fine that I want her ass too.Damn, you giving 2 4 1 red light specials LOL. Naw, just kidding. In 10 years, I've only been asked twice about eating punanny.
Tempoecorto
03-09-14, 17:33
As well it should be.
A mark set up for a long con is still a mark. And when you are being a WU novio that is exactly what you are. Did you meet this woman on the strip in Sosua? Did you give her money after the first time you fucked her? Are you now sending her money through electronic transfer? If you have answered yes to all of these questions then you are indeed trying to Save a Hoe.1. I would not be able to be in another person's shoes to know exactly how he feels / perceives things that started him on that road. Hence, no, I have no right to judge another person.
2, You are mixing thing up. I do not know how much of a hunk you are or how rich for that matter so perhaps girls just pay you for the pleasure of being with you. In any case, for most dudes here (including the undersigned) , there is not a chance that a 20 year old give you even a thought, let alone a look. Most would be happy to land a 40 year old and that too not without paying.perhaps in kind. So your referring to US is a non-starter. Of course, I have no knowledge of inner city and so no idea about how the school dropout scene works but, but for social security, I would imagine it would be exactly like it is in the DR.no matter what color the women have. Uneducated and lower class moms fending for their kids the only way a woman can and has done so through eternity.
In any case, without straying too far from my main point, I would imagine people who are sending money, do that to keep a romantic illusion alive and that might be a hard thing for the "worldly" ones to comprehend. Personally, who am I to tell another that his is just a fantasy, including that of exclusivity?
Had a sweet non pro who lived in San fran democurris. I ask her what she like in the bed and she said oral. At first I thought she was BS but when I went do on her she went nuts. It was and awesome experience. I am a more selective when it comes to pros. I use oil and toys but oral is optional.
Damn, you giving 2 4 1 red light specials LOL. Naw, just kidding. In 10 years, I've only been asked twice about eating punanny.
Tempoecorto
03-09-14, 19:39
No problem Tempoecorto, it's all good and you can flame me anytime you want to, I have thick skin from being on these forums for many years.Thanks. I was making a generic point. Besides, what little I know of you, you are an honorable man.
What gets my goat is people complaining either because the girls lie about having other guys or that some guys send money. I think girls lie when walking the strip with another dude, is a reflection of what many dudes here call the females they have screwed for an hour or two: "my girl". Ha! Perhaps some of those same folks are gullible (or romantic. Depending on the point of view) enough to become SAH but again, that is none of my business.
Mr Enternational
03-09-14, 19:49
A buddy of mine just put this up on fb:
http://news.liveandinvestoverseas.com/Lifestyle/the-countries-with-the-most-prostitutes1.html
A buddy of mine just put this up on fb:
http://news.liveandinvestoverseas.com/Lifestyle/the-countries-with-the-most-prostitutes1.htmlI find it odd that of the 3 Latin American countries, Peru made the ranking. Colombia and Costa Rica as well as the DR are not included. The #1 country, Venezuela, hasn't had a post on ISG for 5 months. What happened to Vietnam? I don't like or trust articles that don't list sources. I think you guys should fund me so I can do an unbiased and scientific study. It may require numerous trips to each country, but I'll take one for the team.
As well it should be.
A mark set up for a long con is still a mark. And when you are being a WU novio that is exactly what you are. Did you meet this woman on the strip in Sosua? Did you give her money after the first time you fucked her? Are you now sending her money through electronic transfer? If you have answered yes to all of these questions then you are indeed trying to Save a Hoe.
Did you originally meet this girl through other means? You say she has never talked about things she needs with the undertone (or by explicitly saying) that you should get them for her? You have been to and are allowed to stay in this woman's home? This woman has a normal 9-to-5 job? Are you now sending her money through electronic transfer? You are just a regular boyfriend trying to help your lady out. Many people get jobs overseas and send money back to their family to help them out. You pretty much fall into this category. Yet and still, I would not be found doing it.
One thing to ask yourself before you start sending money by electronic transfer is WIDTAH (Would I Do This At Home)? If you met a chick under the same circumstances back where you live would you still be inclined to do this type of thing? The real truth is that no matter what kind of esoteric concepts you claim to be privy to, back home you wouldn't be tempted (read caught dead) trying to date / financially support someone who hasn't graduated high school (hence has sub-par literacy) , sitting on their ass every day with no job and not even attempting to look for one, and SOLD you pussy the first time you laid eyes on them. A lie don't care who tell it.Perhaps you have never heard of the term "sugar daddy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
It is certainly interesting that some young women may appear to be borderline retarded when it comes to literacy skills, but at the same time pursue reproductive and sexual strategies that appear to be quite sophisticated.
I think this is a bit overrated. To be sure, I know a Haitian woman of 40 who has three Western Union novios that I know about, but her overall lifestyle is modest and living from paycheck to paycheck at best. For example she recently got a $500 remittance from a guy of 50 in Canada, but most of it went to travel to Haiti and get a visa renewal, which is now $280, plus fares and paying other taxes on the border. She has a cheap phone, not many clothes, and does not own any personal means of transportation. (I have not had sex with her, paid or free.)
Most of these girls only keep their looks for a few years and I doubt if many can make a long term career out of sugar daddies, though I think it is natural that they will seek substitute fathers for their their children if the original fathers are deadbeats, or they are estranged, or perhaps the original father is now with another woman and has other children.
However there are probably numerous men in the developed countries who have money and pay thousands of dollars a month in alimony, child support, college fees for their kids, etc. Who probably find the relatively modest amount of money they spend on women in the DR to be an excellent ROI.
I would certainly agree that if you send money to a street or bar prostitute in the belief that this will keep her off the street, you will almost certainly end up disillusioned. However the different types of international and inter-generational sexual relationships are almost infinite in number and some may be more rewarding than others.
Charles Pooter
03-10-14, 00:50
The #1 country, Venezuela, hasn't had a post on ISG for 5 months.I agree, it looks like a load of BS.
However one point to bear in mind is that in most countries prostitutes overwhelmingly cater for the local populace, not foreign tourists. Not many North Americans visit Venezuela these days because of the hostile propaganda so its coverage on ISG may be irrelevant.
Prostitution is a vast industry in Russia and India, too.
In any case, for most dudes here (including the undersigned) , there is not a chance that a 20 year old give you even a thought, let alone a look. Most would be happy to land a 40 year old and that too not without paying.perhaps in kind.What are you saying tempoecorto? That girls of twenty will not drop their pants for men of 60 in your part of the US without some kind of quid pro quo? Is that it? Shame on you. You ought to leave this board and go and discuss your woes on some kind of prostitution discussion board. Oh, wait a minute.
I don't like or trust articles that don't list sources. .Yes, any unnamed source is likely bullshit no matter how pretty the website is.
A buddy of mine just put this up on fb:
http://news.liveandinvestoverseas.com/Lifestyle/the-countries-with-the-most-prostitutes1.htmlWho does stats on hookers per 10, 000 people? LOL It's a known fact in ANY country 1% of women are working
As for withdrawing cash in SOS: at Banco Progresso one can draw cash on CC up to 100K peso with 2 pieces of ID in one transaction.
Tempoecorto
03-10-14, 05:32
However there are probably numerous men in the developed countries who have money and pay thousands of dollars a month in alimony, child support, college fees for their kids, etc. Who probably find the relatively modest amount of money they spend on women in the DR to be an excellent ROI.You hit it right on the head. These guys crank up their spreadsheets and do a ROI (perhaps even a DCF, LOL) comparison between home and elsewhere and we dare call them stupid SAH! Estoy jodiendo contigo! Jaja!
But I agree that the analysis is done at an intuitive emotional level. Not too many of the firefighters and cops and such would have the skills to do the sophisticated analysis you are referring to. They just see access (even exclusive access) to 20 year old pussy (and compare their old ladies back home) and their legs go weak. Completely understandable!
Funinthesun63
03-10-14, 06:22
As for withdrawing cash in SOS: at Banco Progresso one can draw cash on CC up to 100K peso with 2 pieces of ID in one transaction.That a cash advance with your credit card & subject to a high interest rate & cash advance fee as well. I deposited money on one of my credit card accounts before one of my trips and withdrew the amount in Sosua and still was charged cash advance fee & interest charges.
I used to get $1000 in pesos at Progresso bank atm in one withdrawl but all of a sudden that changed and I could only get 5000 pesos.
I always liked the combination of cash & atm withdrawls for my trips but it appears we have to bring more cash in the future if we wish to avoid the bank fees of Dr & home, wherever that may be.
Exactly. Which is what I just wrote about.Pros and cons with whatever method you decide.
Currently in SD. Able to withdraw 10, 000 pesos from an atm. Heard it is possible to do 10,000 persos per day. IMO the malls are the best place to.
Withdraw funds due to the selection of machines and security. Paypal does not have the same number network affiliations as major banks and is a problem at neighborhood banks.
IMO carrying too much cash is dangerous. Options are limited when to exchange currency. Banks always require your passport as well.
IMO it is better to withdraw huge sums of currency from atms. Then go to the bank to get smaller bills.
As for withdrawing cash in SOS: at Banco Progresso one can draw cash on CC up to 100K peso with 2 pieces of ID in one transaction.That would probably be a last resort for me, but nonetheless important information for anyone that could use it.
That a cash advance with your credit card & subject to a high interest rate & cash advance fee as well.
I always liked the combination of cash & atm withdrawls for my trips but it appears we have to bring more cash in the future if we wish to avoid the bank fees of Dr & home, wherever that may be.I'm sure that is the case about being subjected to high interest rates and fees. I have observed individuals who either haven't been advised or just don't care, trying to pay for stuff with CC's or US cash.
A group of us were at the downstairs bar at Terra Linda having drinks. One of the young guys I met in the group was buying us all drinks. The 1st rounds bill came and it was about 1180 pesos. He pulled out his wallet and had a wad of US $20 bills, to which he pulled out to pay. He asked her how much would the bill be if he paid in US? She said the rate was 36 to 1 if he paid in US cash. That means he would have to pay over $32 US for the drinks, instead of just under $28 US if paid in pesos.
We let him calculate it out, but we all jumped in to stop him from paying knowing that it was a ripoff. Another one of us in the group paid the round in pesos, and later they took him somewhere to exchange money. We all found out then, that nobody ever schooled him on a lot of stuff he should know. He was new to mongering in Sosua, and only has experience vacationing in Punta Cana. He probably was used to paying with cash or credit cards there at the resorts?
Anyway, like yourself I too like the combination of using cash & atms for my trips. And see now the need to bring more cash. I thought $5, 000 US was enough for my trip but found the need to get cash from the ATM anyway. But it wasn't so bad. I had at least 3 direct deposits of salary in my bank account while away so it made it easier to accept the 3% fees for my withdrawals. Besides, I had a blast and never got bored the whole time. A small expense for what I was able to accomplish and enjoy.
And it's not like I'm strapped in debt back at home. If I was, I'd be a little more concerned over charges or fees at ATM's. I do not like paying fees, but $28 US in fees for a visit to the ATM is a small expense in comparison to blowing that same $28 on some other foolishness back in the states. Here is another way I can look at it. I saved more than a $100 just by not being home in the states, turning up my thermostat or using heaters to stay warm, or all of the money I would have spent fueling up my vehicles. Sometimes I think one should make exceptions while on vacation for worthwhile expenditures.
Being here this long, I've gone through dozens of guys I knew or recently met that all came, enjoyed their vacation and eventually went back home. Arranged to have breakfast with another set of guys I already knew and recently met now on vacation. We had breakfast at NG, went to the Playero market, and then back to my spot for a few minutes. Then we did the Cooley High thing (minus the singing ). We sat in front of the salon next to the liquor store on PC.
We had some Barcelo & Coke in Styrofoam cups. This actually was a great spot to chica watch because chicas were walking back and forth the whole time. There was a guy nearby selling Lambi to a couple of chicas. One chubby one I've seen plenty of times before, but not remotely attracted to, asked us for some of our Coca Cola. Me being the closest pointed to all four of us, as if to say the cola belongs to all of us. To which her response was to bust out with an attitude and blurt out,"cheepy".
That aint the 1st time I heard a chica or one of them begging ass kids request something and the minute they are refused turn on you in an instant. My thought about it is, I'm glad I didn't share anything with your ass. Why should I do anything for someone who really is an opportunist that wouldn't appreciate a kind gesture but feels entitled to something because of how they perceive individuals as being rich. Now take your "cheepy" ass into the liquor store and buy your own damn cola. I'm sure they will sell it to you too.
The cute chica I had last night (with the cousin) was sitting nearby. She came over, gave me a kiss on the cheek, and went back to her friends. Although I had a decent session with her, I don't think I feel I'll repeat with her. But we'll be cordial every time we bump into each other.
Eventually it was time to get something to eat. But we had different ideas of what we wanted. I wanted a half chicken meal, while my buddy wanted lobster. So we parted ways. I ended up bumping into a guy I know that lives there. So me and him go together to get something to eat. The waitress at this restaurant is cute. I see her every time I come to the restaurant, but she is always on the move. Not easy to stop her long enough to talk to. When she takes my order, I see what looks like a ring on her hand as if she is married / engaged. I didn't really care one way or the other, , I was just asking in order to express interest.
She said she was neither married or had a boyfriend. So I said, I want to get together with you sometime, I want your number. She gave me the number and she told me when I asked, that she gets off at 1am. I said call me when you get off. I gave her a tip and moto money from the change she gave me after paying for my meal. 1am comes and no call. I call her 10 minutes later and the chica tells me she has to clean up but she will be there when she is done. I aint going to speculate. But yes I will. At her job dozens of dudes probably hit on her every day. I wouldn't be surprised if she went elsewhere 1st before coming to my spot. She called me eventually but now it was 2:27am. Enough time to get her groove on elsewhere and then come to her next appointment. And after me, off to the next appointment if any.
For the peanut gallery residents here. I'm not bringing these things out because I have a problem with sharing, her having other clients / aquaintances or anything like that. I'm merely mentioning how things are or have the potential to be. I want to save you the trouble of reading this, pulling only this information out to dwell on and we end up having a barrage of unnecessary posts. Telling me to get over it, she is just a hooker, stop whining, or whatever other garbage were all used to seeing emerge.
Back to the report : She calls at 2:27am and she is outside in the dark and it's chilly. If she would have called me beforehand I would have met her outside. But for enough chicas thats too much like common sense. Just like a chica I know that visits me from Esperanza who will call me when she gets to Charimicos after getting off the Caribe Tours bus, but won't call me minutes before so I can leave my spot early to go pick her up without her waiting in the dark.
Chica greeted me with a kiss, and we go inside. Once inside, she is ready to shower. This is one of the things I like about mongering in the DR. Most chicas don't hesistate to get in the shower to prepare for a pounding. After an hour or so of a pretty good session, it was time for her to go. Got dressed, gave her some pesos, and walked her out. She called her moto, and off she went. Prior to leaving, she said we could get together tomorrow night if I want. She gets off at 6pm so she would have more time. Sounded ok so I tentatively agreed. (I actually have other plans ). Wherever she went before me or after me I just charge it to the game.
Meanwhile, my blondie chica who I had a brief falling out with a few weeks ago, texted me at 3:30am asking if she could come over. Texted her back when I saw the message, and arranged to go pick her up. Me and blondie have always had good sexual chemistry. So I was looking forward to having a session with her since some time has passed since we were together last. It is a good thing, I took a long ass nap before the restaurant chica came over. Because I am not usually up this late going back out to pick up a woman I intend to session with.
As usual our session was satisfying. When she wakes up, either we'll eat breakfast together here, or she can go home. Either way it's all good. For quite a while now, I have not taken any chicas to a sit down place to eat (NG, Baileys, Rockys etc) like I still see a lot of guys doing. You look at these couples, and they arent even saying much to each other. Once they're finished, the chica walks away or is off on a moto. Also, I still avoid having chicas sit down with me and my friends at the beach. Those are expenses and practices I can do without. But a quick breakfast in my spot? I can manage that for those chicas I'm cool with.
Every now and then I may meet a chica worth taking to Caberete, but there are very few instances of that. Time is winding down. Only a few days left before I fly. What I will have to do next time is fine tune how much time and money I spend with and on chicas. Maybe take even more days off from hunting.
This chica had told me on her visit to me that she was having some type of surgery. I believe she was referring to having a hysterectomy. The day she supposedly was admitted for the surgery she was supposed to give me information so I could visit her. I never received that information. And conveniently for me it rained cats and dogs that morning. So I was not going to drive my rent a wreck all the way to La Vega especially with those conditions.
That worked out for her as well IMO, because I don't really know if any of that she told me was true. Like lightning she told me she was back in the house the next day. She originally told me she would be in the hospital for maybe 3 days. At least thats what I recall. Now she is home, and her incoming whatsapp texts are taking a familiar turn. She starts to tell me that she has to buy medicine that she needs for post surgery.
I said ok, I understand. Next day, she texts that she thought that I was a different kind of guy. Rather than assume I knew what she was talking about, I asked her to explain. She says she needs 2000 pesos to buy the medicine she talked about, and that I didn't bother to offer. She also said I didn't come to see her (easy to say now, especially since the whole ordeal is over now ). But check this out. On the day it rained I told her then it was too dangerous for me to drive my rental because my tires were not good. That was the truth. She, at the time said she understood, no problem.
Now it's a problem? I could have wrote this script myself, because things like this happen with women all too often. In a nutshell I reminded her that when I asked how she supported herself, she told me she gets money from her dtrs father. Also she has family she lives with, and some that live nearby. I asked her how was she going to pay for the medicine in the 1st place?
The convo at this point looked more like thisat$%$#$$. No cursing, but confusing as hell. After weeks of not communicating, I got a whatsapp message saying "Hi". To which I responded by saying "Hola". I suppose she was hoping I would use her initiation of communication and run with it. Unfortunately for her I have too many options. Bad thing for her, is she left a watch and some bracelets in my spot the day she came to visit. She has not expressed interest in getting them back. But thats on her.
Just got back from Sosua, after a two years hiatus. Told nobody I was going.
But I had to go to my favorite bar for my first beer. Like I'd never been away. Hugs and kisses. Chica brings beer and says,"Phone call for you".
It was of course La Princessa, and her "cousin" was serving me the beer. It was noisy so I couldn't hear every thing she was saying, but I knew anyway. She wants to come from San Juan de Maguena (10 hours away by bus). Sorry baby, I'm going to Samana to see hermano and esposa I lied, and gave back the phone. (Well, at least she wasn't working the strip, and my connections said they hadn't seen her there since I was with her. Now there's no gringos in her home town so I don't know what she been doing.)
Anyway, I'm there to monger, basically for the first time, 'cause I've never really been there without novia.
And yes! The chicas are beautiful and as plentiful as ever. Still paradise for this Canadian. I'm still taking in the scene, when aunt and uncle show up, and real cousin barrista comes to work, and a few of our old puta friends gather. They're like a scouting party all asking,"Where's LP?", when is she coming?", meanwhile my phone is lighting up like a Christmas tree. They are setting up family beach party, they have fresh tuna for me, etc, etc. Forget "out of sight, out of mind", they remember the dinero. LOL.
So I stick to my story, I'm only there for a day or so then I have to leave for Samana, besides, I say, we are finito. I buy them beer anyway.
With that done, I can now relax and pick my spots. So I buy a beer for pretty Natalie and show interest in her. I go to the street for a smoke and she follows. I wave to barrista and say "10 minuto". Nice thing is I can leave my tab there and go wander off, no problem.
I'm here to fuck, not party, so I ask how much, She says whatever you like, I say 1000? She says OK. (1000? This is good!) We go down the street to the back room and do the deed. Mechanical, but OK, I give her 1500, say OK, but then I get what was to be, all that week, a familiar look on her face, like a little disappointed. It turns out that whatever you give them, ST anyway, you always get that look, even if they've chased you half way around town for another session, so never ask when paying,"Is OK?"
Came back to bar, more phone calls and invites to visit mommas and el ninos, but I'm staying the course this time. I tell the relatives I need to sleep after a long trip, hasta la huego. I wink at another chica who I've known forever, but never had, and she follows me out of the bar. Same deal maybe same room. 400 pesos for a clean room with shower and fan behind the bar between the old El Flo and Mamaguana bar. Don't remember the name but every chica knows it. Recommended!
I find the best deal on airfare and always a non-stop flight at reasonable times, if I book a AI at the Casa Marina. To get another room is a simple matter when you need one. No chicas allowed (unless you fall in love and want to register her) , but the upside is complete privacy when you need to sleep or chill. No knocks at the door in the middle of the night, no calls from reception that you have a visitor who,"must see you".
There's no middle groud for me. I either like to stay with family in Abajo or Caramichos and party there with them, or it's Fort Casa Marina for me. It really is like a fort, you can go down to loot and pillage and then retreat LOL.
Anyways, Uncle and Aunt are now gone and LP's amigas have got the message that I'm mongering. I can see them texting all the details as I'm drinking.
Life's good!
Tomorrow I meet Kenia and Samantha.
Manizales911
03-10-14, 17:54
Anyway, like yourself I too like the combination of using cash & atms for my trips. And see now the need to bring more cash. I thought $5, 000 US was enough for my trip but found the need to get cash from the ATM anyway. But it wasn't so bad. I had at least 3 direct deposits of salary in my bank account while away so it made it easier to accept the 3% fees for my withdrawals. Besides, I had a blast and never got bored the whole time. A small expense for what I was able to accomplish and enjoy.I always bring enough cash in $USD to cover what I think my entire trip is going to cost plus a cushion amount. I always have left over pesos with me from the previous trip so I don't have the immediate need to go to the exchange but usually I do that on the ride from the airport anyway. Western Union always gives very close to bank exchange rate so that's my usual stop. As a back up plan I also carry a Charles Schwab debit card, always close to bank exchange rate, don't charge a foreign transaction fee and they reimburse all ATM fees at the end of the month.
I always bring enough cash in $USD to cover what I think my entire trip is going to cost plus a cushion amount. I always have left over pesos with me from the previous trip so I don't have the immediate need to go to the exchange but usually I do that on the ride from the airport anyway. Western Union always gives very close to bank exchange rate so that's my usual stop. As a back up plan I also carry a Charles Schwab debit card, always close to bank exchange rate, don't charge a foreign transaction fee and they reimburse all ATM fees at the end of the month.Thanks for the tip on the Schwab card, I was currently researching a debit card that does zero fees. It looks like capital one has a debit card like that as well.
I had a question about using my credit card in Sosua. I plan in bringing enough cash anyway and using pesos but would it be okay to use my 0% foreign transaction fee card for meals and lodging? Do you get screwed on the exchange rate somehow with credit card transactions?
I always bring enough cash in $USD to cover what I think my entire trip is going to cost plus a cushion amount. I always have left over pesos with me from the previous trip so I don't have the immediate need to go to the exchange but usually I do that on the ride from the airport anyway. Western Union always gives very close to bank exchange rate so that's my usual stop. As a back up plan I also carry a Charles Schwab debit card, always close to bank exchange rate, don't charge a foreign transaction fee and they reimburse all ATM fees at the end of the month.I do likewise. For me this trip was different because I was there more than a month and a half. The $5000 US seemed like enough for my original trip. I paid rent for March and all past due utilities. I added 15 days to my trip, bought a bicycle in PP and paid 15 extra days car rental. I still have some cushion because I still have 1300 US out of the $5000 I originally brought. I didn't want to deplete that so thats when I started using the ATM.
Next long vacation I may bring even more cash. Since November I have been leaving pesos here in the DR so I have no need to exchange right away. I may have to give that Charles Schwab account some consideration. Sounds like a good deal.
I do likewise. For me this trip was different because I was there more than a month and a half. The $5000 US seemed like enough for my original trip. I paid rent for March and all past due utilities. I added 15 days to my trip, bought a bicycle in PP and paid 15 extra days car rental. I still have some cushion because I still have 1300 US out of the $5000 I originally brought. I didn't want to deplete that so thats when I started using the ATM.
Next long vacation I may bring even more cash. Since November I have been leaving pesos here in the DR so I have no need to exchange right away. I may have to give that Charles Schwab account some consideration. Sounds like a good deal.I live in DR and just to let you know, I was making a large cash purchase 160, 000 pesos and I went to Banco Popular. Passport, bank card. 160, 000 pesos with no withdrawal charge only a foreign fee from my bank.
That went well.
I live in DR and just to let you know, I was making a large cash purchase 160, 000 pesos and I went to Banco Popular. Passport, bank card. 160, 000 pesos with no withdrawal charge only a foreign fee from my bank.
That went well.What kind of bank card were you using? Debit or Credit card? How much was the bank fee? Is your bank a sister bank of Banco Popular?
Are there drawbacks to using a US credit card for restaurants and such? My bank charges no transaction fees.
This chica had told me on her visit to me that she was having some type of surgery. I believe she was referring to having a hysterectomy. The day she supposedly was admitted for the surgery she was supposed to give me information so I could visit her. I never received that information. And conveniently for me it rained cats and dogs that morning. So I was not going to drive my rent a wreck all the way to La Vega especially with those conditions.
That worked out for her as well IMO, because I don't really know if any of that she told me was true. Like lightning she told me she was back in the house the next day. She originally told me she would be in the hospital for maybe 3 days. At least thats what I recall. Now she is home, and her incoming whatsapp texts are taking a familiar turn. She starts to tell me that she has to buy medicine that she needs for post surgery.
Bad thing for her, is she left a watch and some bracelets in my spot the day she came to visit. She has not expressed interest in getting them back. But thats on her.It is normal to have a couple of days in hospital after a hysterectomy, but it depends on a number of other factors, like the reason for the hysterectomy.
It takes three to four weeks to recover from a hysterectomy and about 6 weeks before the woman can have sex again, so perhaps that is why she is not coming over for her watch and bracelets. You could send them to her as a package by Caribe Express.
Of course, it might not have been a hysterectomy. It might have been a termination of pregnancy (dilatation and curettage or evacuation) in which case she could go home the same day if it was done under local anesthesia and the recovery time would only be a few days.
Are there drawbacks to using a US credit card for restaurants and such? My bank charges no transaction fees.1. The restaurant might add a surcharge for paying by credit card.
2. The restaurant or its staff might copy your credit card number and use it without authorization. If they also ask for I'd they might get a copy of your driver's license with your address on it.
3. You might get a lousy rate of exchange, amounting to a surcharge.
4. This might show up on your credit card statement as something like La Passion Brothel and Restaurant, Sosua, DR.
5. You might drop the credit card and lose it.
6. You will have to pay for part of your trip after your return. If you are carrying over a credit card balance for more than the current billing period, then interest will be added.
The convo at this point looked more like thisat$%$#$$. No cursing, but confusing as hell. After weeks of not communicating, I got a whatsapp message saying "Hi". To which I responded by saying "Hola". I suppose she was hoping I would use her initiation of communication and run with it. Unfortunately for her I have too many options. Bad thing for her, is she left a watch and some bracelets in my spot the day she came to visit. She has not expressed interest in getting them back. But thats on her.How hard would it be for you to get her address and send her watch and bracelets to her? Think of the goodwill that small act would create. If you have $5K US to spend in the DR surely you can do that much for her. Just saying.
RR.
PS- Heading down to Sosua in two weeks!
How hard would it be for you to get her address and send her watch and bracelets to her? Think of the goodwill that small act would create. If you have $5K US to spend in the DR surely you can do that much for her. Just saying.
RR.
PS- Heading down to Sosua in two weeks!Not hard at all. But I prefer to give her the bracelets in person, at my convenience. As assbackwards as things are in the DR, do you really think I want to trust sending her stuff through the mail with the chance of it being lost, stolen or damaged? I think my thoughtfulness in her regard is probably more prudent than your suggestion. If the stuff gets lost, stolen or damaged, think of how much ill will that might cause between me and this chica. And she aint going to believe it was the carriers fault if that happens. I plan on contacting her to make arrangements for her to get her stuff. But there is no reason to inconvenience myself, since she aint breaking her neck over the issue herself. The bracelets and watch arent going anywhere.
See folks, you have to look at the big picture here. There is no reason a dude needs to prioritize, be overly concerned or go out of his way for someone who may not even be a team player. As manifested by this chica. This chica has done nothing to suggest that she is someone I should trust or go out on a limb for.
As far as I'm concerned, in the very beginning the effort I put in towards initiating a friendship probably exceeded her expectations. But when she tried to hold me responsible for paying for "alleged" medication that I wasnt asked directly to pay, tried to disparage my character, and didn't give a fuck about my safety in regards to traveling to La Vega in pouring down rain, things like that don't resonate with me as a reason to be concerned about some jewelry that she unintentionally left behind. Some folks arent going to factor in those details and consider my take on the issue, because they are usually focused only what they choose to focus on.
Yeah it's her jewelry. But she will get it when it is convenient for both of us. Other than that, I'm not wearing no goodwill cape for anybody. Not that it is all that important, but do you see a problem with that?
Wrx2005,
You posted BAD for her, which I took to mean you had no intent to contact the lady again. You further explained that you do plan on contacting her again, just on your time table. This will be my first trip to the DR. I am just trying to get a take on your mindset. No worries my brother. The game is the game.
not hard at all. but i prefer to give her the bracelets in person, at my convenience. as assbackwards as things are in the dr, do you really think i want to trust sending her stuff through the mail with the chance of it being lost, stolen or damaged? i think my thoughtfulness in her regard is probably more prudent than your suggestion. if the stuff gets lost, stolen or damaged, think of how much ill will that might cause between me and this chica.that is ok then. your prior post did not make it clear that you planned to see her again, return her stuff, or that you had investigated the performance of packet delivery services in the dr on her behalf, or indeed that you were concerned about her opinion of you.
we all wish her a speedy recovery from her major surgery.
This will be my first trip to the DR. I am just trying to get a take on your mindset.Hey Ronny,
Everyone rolls differently in the DR. Just gather as much information from several sources and posters, and then have a great time.
When are you going?
Here is a map in case you do not have one.
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1541802As a back up plan I also carry a Charles Schwab debit card, always close to bank exchange rate, don't charge a foreign transaction fee and they reimburse all ATM fees at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]
I'm for one am tired of the fucking fees, I just opened a Schwab account today!
Hey Ronny,
Everyone rolls differently in the DR. Just gather as much information from several sources and posters, and then have a great time.
When are you going?
Here is a map in case you do not have one.Looks like a pretty useful map, but I wonder if it is a bit out of date, because the position of Orange telecom (#6) seems a bit out of place and I think it ought to be between the Playero minimarket and Banco Popular.
Also Codetel is shown over in Charamicos somewhere near the Catholic church (I think) and I suspect that Codetel was taken over by Claro, whose office is opposite Bailey's restaurant, near the crossing of Dr. Rosen and Alejandro Martinez.
TomJackin,
Thank you for the map. I touch down on the 25th. Really looking forward to getting away for a week. Only traveling I have done international of late is crossing the broader into Tijuana for dental work and some fun at Hong Kong. Thanks again.
RR
Wrx2005,
You posted BAD for her, which I took to mean you had no intent to contact the lady again. You further explained that you do plan on contacting her again, just on your time table. This will be my first trip to the DR. I am just trying to get a take on your mindset. No worries my brother. The game is the game.Bro I'm not a lawyer or an educator, although sometimes I think I should have pursued that endeavor, but one of the 1st things I learned doing self study, is that if I want to know someones mindset, I do that by asking for more feedback and getting clarification in order to know what someones mindset is on an issue. Or to make sure I have more facts before assuming wrongly. Most people know, message boards and what people convey is going to be limited. So it makes sense that you may not have all of the facts or information from a single post.
I would not start off with questions like "How hard would it be to get her address etc etc?" That could be considered borderline insulting BTW. And then making the statement about me having "5K to spend in the DR surely you can do that much for her" Thats not how one usually goes about getting a take on someones mindset.
If one were to seek clarification or get better feedback, that is what will help one get a better mindset on someone. Then, when you do that, you won't find yourself starting off saying "Not judging", when clearly when you make statements the way you did, you have indeed made a judgement based on limited information. The not judging statement would not even be needed. But it is needed in instances such as yours.
Plenty of people do that all the time. And it's almost to the point I think some people avoid seeking feedback or getting clarification because they enjoy being misinformed or uninformed, so they can focus only the juicy information in front of them. I'm sure Frannie has that affliction, because he is consistent in that area.
Now, imagine if you had asked this simple question in order to get a take on my mindset. "Do you plan on returning the bracelets to her, if so when or how?" What do you think that inquiry and my answer would have afforded you? A better take on my mindset. To not do that, but go about it the way you did, suggests something else is going on.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, because what I just conveyed to you is actually useful information in life as well as may be helpful for your upcoming trip. Have a good trip.
That is OK then. Your prior post did not make it clear that you planned to see her again, return her stuff, or that you had investigated the performance of packet delivery services in the DR on her behalf, or indeed that you were concerned about her opinion of you.Your powers of observation are amazing. It's a good thing someone else prompted some clarification. You'd still be stuck on the information in the prior post. But there's a positive side to this. Having many members here to share perspectives with results in enlightenment for those that need it most.
Are there drawbacks to using a US credit card for restaurants and such? My bank charges no transaction fees.No CC usually provide the best currency exchange rate.
Looks like a pretty useful map, but I wonder if it is a bit out of date,<saying slowly> You wonder if it is a bit out of date? You mean after all of that information you just provided about certain locations you are still wondering? Nice way to praise and at the same time discount someones help to a fellow member. You are one pretty smooth cat.
See if it was me? I wouldn't start off saying I wonder if the map is a bit dated. Especially when you know damn well that it is. I would just give the information on the areas I know, and leave it up to others to consider my contribution and update accordingly. But no one can dispute how smooth your method of assistance comes off. LOL
<saying slowly You wonder if it is a bit out of date? You mean after all of that information you just provided about certain locations you are still wondering? Nice way to praise and at the same time discount someones help to a fellow member. You are one pretty smooth cat.
See if it was me? I wouldn't start off saying I wonder if the map is a bit dated. Especially when you know damn well that it is. I would just give the information on the areas I know, and leave it up to others to consider my contribution and update accordingly. But no one can dispute how smooth your method of assistance comes off. LOLNot really, Mr. Spock. The map IS useful and if you had it downloaded to your cell phone, it would give you the layout of Sosua Bay, the street plan of Sosua, the names of the principal streets, the location of the beach and Charamicos and so on, so you could take a nice walk and find the way back to your hotel if you got lost.
However if the first thing that you wanted to do on arrival was to get a local SIM card for your phone, it might be a bit less helpful, because businesses tend to relocate or close down over time. That's all.
Mr Enternational
03-11-14, 17:54
I touch down on the 25th. Really looking forward to getting away for a week. Only traveling I have done international of late is crossing the broader into Tijuana for dental work and some fun at Hong Kong. Thanks again.Clean your message box out playboy.
Anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with women who stalk you. It almost feels like they are trying to "strong arm" or force themselves on you. How do guys deal with aggressive chicas. I find if you make a mistake and keep seeing them it becomes a huge mistake. Any advice?
Looks like a pretty useful map, but I wonder if it is a bit out of date, because the position of Orange telecom (#6) seems a bit out of place and I think it ought to be between the Playero minimarket and Banco Popular.I'm sure the map is outdated, I got it for my first trip 4 years ago.
But the map does give a sense of how small the town is and I think the hotels are still in the right place.
And the name of the streets are still right on.
If I was a computer wiz, which I am far from, I would try to fix the not so important errors.
TomJackin,
Thank you for the map. I touch down on the 25th. Really looking forward to getting away for a week. Only traveling I have done international of late is crossing the broader into Tijuana for dental work and some fun at Hong Kong. Thanks again.
RRLike Mr. E said, clear out PM box and send me a message.
I have more info for you.
But the map does give a sense of how small the town is and I think the hotels are still in the right place.Yes it does and yes they are. It's still a good map. I have a copy somewhere too!
it might be a bit less helpful, because businesses tend to relocate or close down over time. That's all.I'm confused. Are you still wondering if the map is a bit outdated, or are you now acknowledging that was all along?
Like Mr. E said, clear out PM box and send me a message.
I have more info for you.Tomjackin & Mr. E, I have cleared up my PM.
RR
MiamiSammy
03-12-14, 13:33
I spent the first week of August last year in Sosua at Rick's Blues and BBQ- great place. I ran into this little cutie having dinner with her girlfriend and didn't see any reason to look further. I will say that as much as I enjoyed to hotties per square inch on the main strip in Sosua, they don't hold a candle to the hotties in Medellin. Whoa, baby! Much love to CubaDave for his great advice, and I don't challenge his take on Sosua. I just found a little bit of heaven in the incredibly gorgeous Paisas of Medellin.
Anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with women who stalk you. It almost feels like they are trying to "strong arm" or force themselves on you. How do guys deal with aggressive chicas. I find if you make a mistake and keep seeing them it becomes a huge mistake. Any advice?Can you supply more background and feedback on the situation? Where are you hooking up with these women? Sosua, met them online, where? Describe what they are doing and how you respond?
In general, I have encountered some aggressive chicas that like to approach and put the moves on you to take them. 1st off, I avoid making long eye contact with chicas I think might be trouble or I don't find attractive. Any prolonged eye contact many will take that as an invitation to stop and turn towards you. If I see one of these types, and they are easy to spot, I may give one look, a quick nod but turn my attention away. If they still come over, I say as little as possible. I don't answer any questions ( or avoid answering specific questions I consider prying ) , but I may tell them I am waiting for a chica or my girlfriend.
Or I say anything to get them to keep it moving. The main thing is not to be concerned about them acting offended because you aint biting. Many aggressive types like to bust out with attitudes as if you are doing something wrong not allowing yourself to be charmed by their approach. Or they may give you their spiel and in the next instant ask you to buy them some beer, or give them money to eat. Risk offending them. Just say "no gracias". Let them walk off in a huff. They werent your friend or going to be your friend anyway. They are just opportunists looking for a way in so they can get something.
Also, I don't allow those aggressive types to interrupt me when I am engaged in conversation with another person. That goes for touts and venders too. A quick acknowledgement of their presence followed by,"were talking here" or "no gracias", and then I turn my attention back to who I was talking to.
These are some things I do in general.
In your case, you are talking about women you've smashed. The only thing I can think of offhand ( without more feedback ) , is that perhaps there is something you are doing that makes them feel they can stalk you? With women I encounter and intend to see again, I usually initiate a conversation with them, letting them know I know why they are here (Sosua) and I let them know why I'm here. I am not looking for a GF or a wife. I may tell them that up front, if I feel there could be a problem down the road. I tell them, I aint jealous of any man you spend time with, and I don't want you acting jealous or crazy seeing me with other chicas. If I see you with a guy, no problem, I can see you another night. At the end of that convo, I try to get acknowledgement that they understand and agree.
The other thing that I think is important is remembering you have the right to be with anybody you want to be with. If you are manifesting weaknesses with those women, like letting them make you feel like you are doing something wrong by not seeing them on YOUR own time, then you need to nip that shit in the bud. Also, don't be telling these women that you will see them later or tomorrow when you really dont want to, or not sure.
When later or tomorrow comes and you don't take them, now you might find yourself defending yourself. Which makes you look weak, IMO. They have a tendency (and this also applies to venders and touts beggars etc) to try to hold a person to their word. Meanwhile they can lie their asses off any time it's convenient. But you, your word is supposed to be your bond. Fuck that. You have the right to keep your business to yourself too. You don't have to give anybody any information. For instance, if they ask you where you are, just tell them you are out. Or with friends. You don't have to tell them exactly where you are and what you are doing in that moment. Letting them keep tabs on you is a subtle form of control being exercised towards you.
So never say shit like later when you really don't want to be bothered or you arent sure when you want to see them. I usually say "Cuando mi lista por ti, yo llamarte" I don't know if that is correct. But I am trying to tell them. When I am ready for you, I will call you.
Just last night a chica I was with 3 weeks ago came up to me and asked me how come I haven't called her. The reason I havent called her, is because I do not want to be with her. It's that simple. And the only reason she came up to me is because it was a slow night on the strip. She purposely avoided eye contact every time I spotted her somewhere. But now all of a sudden she decided to "see" me sitting on a bar stool and came over. My answer to her was, "Estoy no lista por ti." "Cuando estoy lista, voy a llamarte" If she says when? "no sabe" and shrug my shoulders. Meaning, I dont know. Playing dumb can help in a lot of situations too.
The thing is, most of these women try to act like there is some personal interest involved when they inquire about you not calling them. The real deal though is that the main thing they are focused on is getting their next client in order to earn some cash. And includes keeping a client, and earning as much dinero with that client as possible. That even goes for enough of the real sweet nice ones that may not come to Sosua. You can have a sweet chica say "you haven't called me, how come?" I may tell them I don't have much dinero tonight, I will call you another night. Instead of them saying, thats ok I still want to be with you, money is no problem, enough will usually agree to seeing you another night. That there is your reinforcement that it aint really about you with many of them, no matter how much sexual chemistry you think you have with a chica, it's mostly about the financial benefit you have to offer when spending time with them.
Bottom line, how you carry yourself may be the crux of why you are getting stalked. Analyze that, and the chicas in question and maybe there are things you havent considered. Things you can change this instant.
However, your feedback and info can help the board perhaps be more helpful in giving you better advice in your regard. This is just some stuff that comes to mind.
Naked Gunz
03-12-14, 15:22
Can you supply more background and feedback on the situation? Where are you hooking up with these women? Sosua, met them online, where? Describe what they are doing and how you respond? In general, I have encountered some aggressive chicas These are some things I do in general.Jesus, how can you enjoy yourself when you have to constantly employ such tactical maneuvers dealing with that shyt. I hated that ghetto f*ckin vibe from Sosua and am happy to be dealin with African / Asian women in this part of the world. I really did not like Sosua. Thugged out women not my style. You fellas take care over there.
Don't ever spend TLN with a girl named Chili, from a place called Cristal. The word avarice comes to mind. She barely had sex with me, and the whole time kept asking for gifts, then had the nerve to demand a huge tip.
This is not just Sosua, this is the entire country. I reported on this a couple of months ago. Time to start bringing cash to exchange, unless you can bear the brunt of paying $4 for every $115 (3%) that you take out plus the charges of your home bank.This sucks.
I don't use credit cards unless the establishment I am at is trying to charge me to much then I will hit them with it just so they pay the 3 percent and don't get cash. Now that theory goes to shit.
What about money orders or travelers checks are these good options in the DR as far as having cash to spend. Do banks or western union deal with these
Are there drawbacks to using a US credit card for restaurants and such? My bank charges no transaction fees.I used my card (one I very infrequently) in a gas station, near the airport once on the way into santo domingo. Car had no gas and I had no pesos. I think it was the esso (exxon) before the highway into santo domingo.
A day later got a call from my bank to see if I tried to purchase something from J R electronics, for around 1, 100 dollars. The only thing that probably saved me from a big headache is the idiots passed the charge 2 times and the back caught that as a mistake and contacted me.
My mother use her AMEX card in a toy store down here, Juegeton and later it was used again to charge something. Amex reimbursed her for the fraud.
But this has happened to me in the states as well. Every time it has been caught.
arrived at 1200pm from sd. room not ready. walked around. lots of nice natural large tits with curves everywhere. the older ones are still sexy but the wrinkled face eliminates them from consideration.
while walking around i secured a hot manicurist named rosie from across the street, a hot massage therapist named kelly who speaks english from 2 buildings away and an english speaking student named jessica with a nice face but fat. obtained tel numbers.
once the room was ready, secured rosie. rosie is 22 years old from puerto plata. incredible natural rack that is firm and too large for her torso. nice nails with sexy ass and nice curves. negotiated 1000 peso for massage with no sex. 1500 pesos to do nude massage. 2500 for massage and sex. opted for the 1000 massage. decent swedish massage. requires direction where to massage. after 1/2 hour, renegotiated. attempted to get sexo for 1500 pesos. only able to get her naked with hand job. for some reason her hand job caused me to have a giant eruption of white plasma.
after more massaging, started playing with her incredible rack and finger banging her tight pussy that was wet. directed her to massage my balls. she claimed to have an orgasm. paid her 1500 pesos. she wanted 2000. no sexo. 1500 pesos. unhappy.
previously, i secured a 700pm date with kelly. maybe 20 yards to the right of hotel. speaks good english. taller curvy chica with a nice rack. face is pretty good. reconfirmed around 500 pm after a walk.
after rosie, ate a meal. walked to sousa beach. plenty of chicas good to go everywhere. easy as pie. the beach area is interesting. overcrowded with shops and restaurants. nice shade if you want to be around the beach without direct ultraviolet rays. i live in a tropical place and thought the sun hitting the ocean was a beautiful sight. this an overcrowded beach town with a combo caribbean vibe and american beach town type layout. it is easy to see why people get bored after several days or why people can stay for extended periods. imo 5 days is more than enough time. too many old angry loud us white dudes.
ran into a hot newly arrived haitian named melanda. negotiated her from 2000 pesos (laughed loud) to 1000 pesos for una hora. got tel number for follow-up.
Don't ever spend TLN with a girl named Chili, from a place called Cristal. The word avarice comes to mind. She barely had sex with me, and the whole time kept asking for gifts, then had the nerve to demand a huge tip.A Picture would have been great so we can see her face or more details.
Can you supply more background and feedback on the situation? Where are you hooking up with these women? Sosua, met them online, where? Describe what they are doing and how you respond?
In general, I have encountered some aggressive chicas that like to approach and put the moves on you to take them. 1st off, I avoid making long eye contact with chicas I think might be trouble or I don't find attractive. Any prolonged eye contact many will take that as an invitation to stop and turn towards you. If I see one of these types, and they are easy to spot, I may give one look, a quick nod but turn my attention away. If they still come over, I say as little as possible. I don't answer any questions (or avoid answering specific questions I consider prying) , but I may tell them I am waiting for a chica or my girlfriend.
Or I say anything to get them to keep it moving. The main thing is not to be concerned about them acting offended because you aint biting...First of all thank you very much for the reply. I think it is very important to never show any signs of weakness by not being evasive etc. An example is a chick I was seeing for a couple of days tried to put the guilt thing on me like I had promised her something else. The thing that gets to me is when they girls say you like mucho chicas. I always tell them you are a prostitute you like mucho chicos. Then they tell you well I have to do this. I tell them your ass can sell fruit or get a job you do not have to. I think that that my problem has been like many guys, American Men are too nice which is a weakness in the Dominican Republic. Many Dominicans IMO see generosity and too much kindness as a weakness.
The bottom line is exactly what you said "Bottom line, how you carry yourself may be the crux of why you are getting stalked" I will take your constructive criticism to heart. Thank you.
Jesus, how can you enjoy yourself when you have to constantly employ such tactical maneuvers dealing with that shyt. I hated that ghetto f*ckin vibe from Sosua and am happy to be dealin with African / Asian women in this part of the world. I really did not like Sosua. Thugged out women not my style. You fellas take care over there.Don't know about the ghetto vibe, but I am heading there soon. I am not new to this game, mostly a Rio traveler. This is just a new location, which I have heard some good things about from friends of mines. I am just not someone who over thinks what is the motivation or intent of everyone I meet. I mean DAMN, I am going on vacation. I am sure I will have a great time. Pretty sure I can skip all that psychoanalysis.
RR
arrived at 1200pm from sd. room not ready. walked around. lots of nice natural large tits with curves everywhere. the older ones are still sexy but the wrinkled face eliminates them from consideration.
while walking around i secured a hot manicurist named rosie from across the street, a hot massage therapist named kelly who speaks english from 2 buildings away and an english speaking student named jessica with a nice face but fat. obtained tel numbers.
once the room was ready, secured rosie. rosie is 22 years old from puerto plata. incredible natural rack that is firm and too large for her torso. nice nails with sexy ass and nice curves. negotiated 1000 peso for massage with no sex. 1500 pesos to do nude massage. 2500 for massage and sex. opted for the 1000 massage. decent swedish massage. requires direction where to massage. after 1/2 hour, renegotiated. attempted to get sexo for 1500 pesos. only able to get her naked with hand job. for some reason her hand job caused me to have a giant eruption of white plasma.
after more massaging, started playing with her incredible rack and finger banging her tight pussy that was wet. directed her to massage my balls. she claimed to have an orgasm. paid her 1500 pesos. she wanted 2000. no sexo. 1500 pesos. unhappy.
previously, i secured a 700pm date with kelly. maybe 20 yards to the right of hotel. speaks good english. taller curvy chica with a nice rack. face is pretty good. reconfirmed around 500 pm after a walk.
after rosie, ate a meal. walked to sousa beach. plenty of chicas good to go everywhere. easy as pie. the beach area is interesting. overcrowded with shops and restaurants. nice shade if you want to be around the beach without direct ultraviolet rays. i live in a tropical place and thought the sun hitting the ocean was a beautiful sight. this an overcrowded beach town with a combo caribbean vibe and american beach town type layout. it is easy to see why people get bored after several days or why people can stay for extended periods. imo 5 days is more than enough time. too many old angry loud us white dudes.
ran into a hot newly arrived haitian named melanda. negotiated her from 2000 pesos (laughed loud) to 1000 pesos for una hora. got tel number for follow-up.thanks for the update! great start! hope to see you friday when i get in. bunda.
I'm not especially attracted to black women. I mean the women here are somewhat mixed, but I'm not in Santiago.
Anyhoo, was introduced to a chick yesterday. Hung out today. Not a prostitute per se.
First and second time, she wouldn't let my finger in her ass. Third time, tonight, I just slid it in without asking and she didn't protest.
I'm still not sure if she likes me or just wants money. She doesn't smile and looks bored as fuck.
My Spanish is probably at 30% comprenhension, which frustrates her. I also don't cum easily, and sex in both ports are painful for her cause she's so little.
Maybe next month Prague or Medellin.
Tempoecorto
03-13-14, 06:05
I am just not someone who over thinks what is the motivation or intent of everyone I meet. I mean DAMN, I am going on vacation. I am sure I will have a great time. Pretty sure I can skip all that psychoanalysis.
RREvidently, some people get off also by psychoanalyzing each encounter in addition to the actual deed! On the other hand, when you go for a week, you do not have time for anything else but scout and execute.
Tempoecorto
03-13-14, 06:25
.and an English speaking student named JessicaWatch out for students in the DR. Everyone who is not gainfully employed or not a stay at home mom, is a "student". Last week, a 21 year old tells me she is in Med school. So my next question was, which semester. She answers. 1st! Now typically a smart kid there, goes to the university at around 16 (of age) so, when you hear, she is a first semester (which has nothing to do with Med school. One studies math and Spanish and stuff) at the ripe old age of 21, you know which cubbyhole to put her in. On the other hand, I spoke to a woman who is from Bonao and claims to be a 4th semester student of Languages at the Uni there, who spoke English on phone and could understand me very well despite the voip packet loss, that too without ever being outside the country. That is a genuine student.
I'm not especially attracted to black women.
I'm still not sure if she likes me or just wants money. She doesn't smile and looks bored as fuck.
My Spanish is probably at 30% comprenhension, which frustrates her. I also don't cum easily, and sex in both ports are painful for her cause she's so little.Sounds like you are having a blast!:D
First, there are 3 atm machines with mucho security on the main street. During banking hours (opens at 800am) it is easy to convert big bills to smaller bills.
Last night, met up with Kelly. Walked to a bar for a drink. Talked about her being my tour guide around Puerto Plata (cable ride, fort, Monte Cristi parque, etc.) and Sousa. She agreed. Decided to negotiate price later. My plan is to pay her with clothes, paying for cell minutes, etc. Allows me to conserve cash which can go quick. Offered for her to stay the night. She agreed and would return at 900pm. Discovered the local taxi is 50 pesos between Sousa and PP. Plan to take full advantage.
Decided to cruise the strip. WOW! Hordes of hot putas everywhere. Pick your size! Sexy Started talking to a hot sexy one. Not serious. Just horsing around. Wanted 2000 pesos. Befriended by a motocoach driver name Jimmy from Haiti wearing a Toronto baseball cap. Toured around helping me find chicas. Located some good ones for 1000 pesos but declined to future meeting.
Jimmy drove me down to Rancho Tipico Sousa which is next to the infamous shut down La Passion. Much quieter. Not a good selection of chicas except for for Elisa. Looking Tyra Banks. Nice light skin with a perky good rack. After a few beers decided to forego Kelly for her. 1000 peso bar fine. Jimmy negotiated a price of 2000 pesos for tln. She agreed and off to the hotel. Explained to Jimmy about my situation with Kelly. While going to my hotel there was Kelly walking. Stopped the motocoach. Explained to Kelly I was busy. She also said she could not meet. Whew.
Back to the room. This chica is fine. Nice body but no real kissing or BJ. Good round one. Asked again about tln. She reaffirmed. Unexpectantly she put back on all her clothes and just wanted to lay in bed cuddling. Mentioned she needed to be naked with more sex. She declined. My phone was continually ringing from Jimmy (BTW as I type this leisa from SD keeps attempting to contact. Texted I am leaving for the US today). Gave the chica 1000 pesos.
Explained to Jimmy what happened. He was unhappy. Raced down for a summit at the lobby area. Jimmy explained to the chica what the deal entailed. Very stubborn. Jimmy kept trying to persuade her. Chica eventually started crying. Hugged her and thought she would change her mind. Chica walked away. Jimmy was upset about his reputation. Told him it was cool.
After the chica left, decided to go back to the strip. Met a thin 21 why / o named Rosa from PP and Haiti. Must finish the story later as I must go meet up with Kelly.
Chica not at massage place yet.
Take Rosa back to the room. Negotiated 1000 pesos for one hr plus 2 pops. Drink beers first. Back to the room. No real kissing. No condom BJ. Wants to fuck. Keep putting off. Finally she goes on top. Good rider. Uses her legs very well to contract her pussy. I will not cum due to multiple early pops and alcohol. She is trying her best.
21 why / o with 2 kids. Amazing body for 2 kids. Working the strip for 3 years. Forced to relief myself after maybe 30 minutes. Chica wants to leave. Told her about the deal and will pay her only 500 pesos. Unhappy. Stalemate arises with both sides threatening security and polica. She mentions if policia comes she will say I owe her 3000 pesos.
She requires closed monitoring since she could use the beer bottle as a weapon. Continually repeats,"Pay me my Money" "Do you want me to leave? Searches for hostage items. Finds none (thanks guys for the tips). Chica eventually starts crying. Comfort her and say if you give me BJ with condon I will pay you the remaining 500 pesos. She is unhappy but complies. She tells me not to touch her. While putting on the condom I drop it somewhere (it was purely accidental). She says okay. Starts providing a decent HJ and bareback BJ. Goes over the 5 minute mark. No leche. Start relieving myself which she assists by fondling my balls. Pay her the 500 pesos and she leaves. Power and pride both at work.
These chicas have basically formed a union that means no GFE, optional bjs, no kissing and quickly get you off as quickly as possible with one pop for 1000. 2000 pesos. Too many mongers are cumming to quickly and overpaying!
United we stand Mongers against the unionization of putas!
Woke up early today. Walked around an uncrowded Sosua. Very nice. Ate breakfast at Baily's. Big fruit platter. Still waiting for my Kelly to show-up. Ran into an older puta named Cynthia. Older slim and still sexy. Negotiated 1000 pesos for 2 pos plus kissing. Obtained her tel # for followup? Is she part of the union? My guess she is not part of the union due to age discrimination. Ha Ha.
First, there are 3 atm machines with mucho security on the main street. During banking hours (opens at 800am) it is easy to convert big bills to smaller bills.
Last night, met up with Kelly. Walked to a bar for a drink. Talked about her being my tour guide around Puerto Plata (cable ride, fort, Monte Cristi parque, etc.) and Sousa. She agreed. Decided to negotiate price later. My plan is to pay her with clothes, paying for cell minutes, etc. Allows me to conserve cash which can go quick. Offered for her to stay the night. She agreed and would return at 900pm. Discovered the local taxi is 50 pesos between Sousa and PP. Plan to take full advantage.
Decided to cruise the strip. WOW! Hordes of hot putas everywhere. Pick your size! Sexy Started talking to a hot sexy one. Not serious. Just horsing around. Wanted 2000 pesos. Befriended by a motocoach driver name Jimmy from Haiti wearing a Toronto baseball cap. Toured around helping me find chicas. Located some good ones for 1000 pesos but declined to future meeting...Shamester,
Is this the Kelly you speak of? If so, she is a real cutie. I've been dealing with her for years and she is finally coming into her own. Please take care of her, that's my babe. Peace.
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