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Hi guys,
My first time to DR. Planning to go to Sosua in about a month and stay there for about 10 days. Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?
I have read the forum but could not find much information about daytime places (similar to those in Medellin, CO; San Jose, CR; Bangkok&Pattaya, Thailand etc).
I really appreciate your help! Which places I have to go to find girls in the daytime, particularly in the early afternoon?
Thanks,
RogerYou can do what I did years ago. I paid one of the motorbike guys to bring them to my place during the daytime. I told him Exactly what I was looking for look wise and I told him to bring them to me. It worked like a charm. The people that really live (locals) know where all the girls live too. Dude was just literally going to their houses and picking them up. The only problem with this is he began to bring too many girls. I mean it seemed like the guy was pulling up with bus loads. Lmao! I can't remember what I paid him but it wasn't much. I'd say a few hundred pesos the most. Also, I've never done this in Sosua only in Boca Chica, but I'm quite sure this would work very well in Sosua as well.
Mr Enternational
05-27-14, 19:24
Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?You have to realize the freaks come out at night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYC7ltxOrk&feature=kp.
Tempoecorto
05-27-14, 20:56
It appears that there are not many choices for me during the daytime in Sosua. I already have my flight tickets to Puerto Plata.Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?Jesus, you have already given up on Sosua where women are everywhere?
1) If you are not comfortable looking for women, first off, go stay at Field of Dreams in Puerto Plata or to Blackbeard (a little further) where all you have to do, is to choose from the gaggle of females on premises 24/7 and wave at the chosen one / s.
2) Once you have exhausted your leche sac after a few days of never ending romps, you can move to Sosua, already in a better frame of mind and follow what the other posts have suggested looking for females: go to the beach, Sit at Rocky's restaurant to chat with other fellow hobbyists in your language and get pointers or wave at willing females passing by, go to the massage parlors, and finally go to the dance clubs / bars at night where women will accost (well almost) you.
3) Remember most women sleep until late like many hobbyists after a night of drunken revelry so if you are having breakfast / lunch at say midday, on one of the many nice restaurants under the canopy, on the side walk of the main street and you see woman / women walking by that catches your fancy, you can always smile and / or wave. If the stars are aligned right, she will turn right back and come to sit with you.
Santo Domingo on your maiden trip may not be advisable. It is far, big city with its issues and outside of casas, is more complicated in terms of finds without the local language unless you are an adventurous kind.
Hi guys,
My first time to DR. Planning to go to Sosua in about a month and stay there for about 10 days. Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?
I have read the forum but could not find much information about daytime places (similar to those in Medellin, CO; San Jose, CR; Bangkok&Pattaya, Thailand etc).
I really appreciate your help! Which places I have to go to find girls in the daytime, particularly in the early afternoon?
Thanks,
RogerSince you mentioned that this is your first time in Sosua, you may be surprised to find more than a few chicas around during the day. It's only "quiet" relative to the action that goes on at night.
I, and guys I know never had a real problem finding girls during the day. Sit down, have lunch or a beer and they will find you, almost guaranteed.
Thank you Charles Pooter, OldKool, Orgasmico and others for your very helpful suggestions. It appears that there are not many choices for me during the daytime in Sosua. I already have my flight tickets to Puerto Plata.
Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?
Thanks,
RogerI don't think I've ever faced an issue finding action during the daytime. But I don't start to have fun until 1 or 2 in the afternoon, nothing extremely early like 10 or 11 AM. For something that early you might want to try some of the MP's. Otherwise if you're patient until the afternoon, you could sit at one of the bars and you should not have much of an issue. Or just walk down Pedro Clisante (don't go too far though) and you will run into a chica. I've been to Sosua during non-peak season and although the quality and quantity of girls increases drastically as you get into the evening hours (8 PM) the daytime is not impossible. It's just not as many chicas walking around or sitting at the bars, that's all. I've been to Santo Domingo and there are the casas during the day / night, but personally I find Sosua to be better at any time of the day. SD vs Sosua though are two different places, and two different ways to get things done. If you speak decent spanish, you have a great opportunity to get with some incredibly good looking non-pros in SD.
For the price and location it's hard to beat Casa Cayena. The skanks may be superior compared to what you can get in LA, but were talking Sosua here and if you venture out, speak some Spanish, and have a little game you can do far better than going with one of the skanks that hang out there.I just got a week at Casa Cayena and Wilfried included breakfast and dinner. I stayed there the last two times after being a NG regular and the place cannot be beat!
Mr Enternational
05-28-14, 02:26
Since you mentioned that this is your first time in Sosua, you may be surprised to find more than a few chicas around during the day. It's only "quiet" relative to the action that goes on at night.It kind of reads like Roger is looking for a brothel-like set up such as La Passion was, and not women of the free lance variety.
It kind of reads like Roger is looking for a brothel-like set up such as La Passion was, and not women of the free lance variety.Understood, Mr. E.
But I just wanted to remind him of the reason why Sosua is a top mongering destination despite having no brothels.
Who needs a McDonalds fish burger, when for about the same price he can get a fresh caught snapper cooked to his taste on the beach.
Well, no time for a full report, that will soon be coming.
Just wanted to add, since Roger seems to be in the same sort of time constraints as me.
Daytime Sosua is rather slim. Just from early afternoon to early evening the selection changes / increases quite a bit. Can't imagine how it is during peak hours.
So far I've had my great session, and my ok session, met some regular chicas (at least so far they're sticking with that story)..still waiting for my off the chain session. Oh yes, and alas, I had my rip off session.
Sad to say, but it's true. With over 20 years and all the research here, I still let my guard down, made a couple of really dumb moves and got ripped off.
Let me just say, from now on, girls leaving ID is a must for me!
Also, Dolce Secreto does not take the chicas ID and will take their side at least they did in my situation. Well, more like they didn't want to get involved.
Well, in the end it was 50 USD so I still consider it a relatively cheap lesson.
Well, no time for a full report, that will soon be coming.
Just wanted to add, since Roger seems to be in the same sort of time constraints as me.
Daytime Sosua is rather slim. Just from early afternoon to early evening the selection changes / increases quite a bit. Can't imagine how it is during peak hours.
So far I've had my great session, and my ok session, met some regular chicas (at least so far they're sticking with that story)..still waiting for my off the chain session. Oh yes, and alas, I had my rip off session.
Sad to say, but it's true. With over 20 years and all the research here, I still let my guard down, made a couple of really dumb moves and got ripped off.
Let me just say, from now on, girls leaving ID is a must for me!
Also, Dolce Secreto does not take the chicas ID and will take their side at least they did in my situation. Well, more like they didn't want to get involved.
Well, in the end it was 50 USD so I still consider it a relatively cheap lesson.Daytime on weekdays picking is slim to none. You can find some desperate ones. Daytime on weekends are good. If you are looking for real pretty ones they can be found Friday and Saturday nights after 11 PM. When I went earlier this month one real pretty girl latched on to me pushing her big boobs in my face trying to get me to take her. She wanted 4000 pesos ST. That is a no go for me. I offered 2500 for LT which she did not accept.
Also very pretty girls in the casino which is on the way to the beach. By then I had a good GFE with me for LT. Cost 2500.
Interesting, tourists getting robbed again in Sosua: http://www.sabanetadeyasica.com/2014/05/vuelven-atracos-esta-calle-de-sosua.html.
Interesting, tourists getting robbed again in Sosua: http://www.sabanetadeyasica.com/2014/05/vuelven-atracos-esta-calle-de-sosua.html.Arrived today in Sosua and had never been here during the slow season. The strip was fenced off from the Playero Market all the way down to Rumbas starting in the late afternoon. At 11 PM there were a few people in the street in front of Rumbas and the rest of the street was pretty much deserted. What a difference from when I was here back in November and February. I can see tourists getting ripped off on a deserted street.
First night here and there was a decent showing here at rumba's. Didn't stay late and go on to the'Latins afterwards so not sure if more people showed up. It seems like the new rates now are about 2000 p for short time from everyone I've been talking to and the chicas.
First night here and there was a decent showing here at rumba's. Didn't stay late and go on to the'Latins afterwards so not sure if more people showed up. It seems like the new rates now are about 2000 p for short time from everyone I've been talking to and the chicas.It's bee said here before, but if you take their number and arrange to meet them during the day, you can get them for 1,000/1,500 when they are not so busy.
You could stretch your budget quite a lot this way, and often get better time.
When Classicals was the main place it was very difficult to settle on one girl. My first time there I was with a 8 who latched on to me in the street. She was a solid 8 with a great personality. Once we stepped in, there were so many 9's and 10's I could not even look at my sweet 8 anymore. I was surrounded by scores of very sexy gorgeous girls. The D Latins is just fine but Classicos was an awesome spot. The low level babes would not show their faces in the place. I also enjoyed the open dance floor. If you have DANCE SKILLS you could break the ice before you pulled the trigger. If a chica has no time to dance she is a you cum she run girl. If you can get a good vibe with a girl you want her not to be in a hurry. I love it when they want to look at TV and cuddle a bit. To your point after noon hookups are usually much cheaper but they tend to screw up your evenings. Maybe I am getting old but once I bust the afternoon nut a nice nap is in order and my evening drive is not as high. My suggestion is to find chica that you like a bit and who responds to you. She will happy to hang WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A good deal on the booty.
It's bee said here before, but if you take their number and arrange to meet them during the day, you can get them for 1,000/1,500 when they are not so busy.
You could stretch your budget quite a lot this way, and often get better time.
Well I'm back home.
Wow is all I can say.
I don't even know where to begin. I wanted to day by day reports, not sure though if anyone really cares to hear that much detail.
In the end 8 different girls, and 9 sessions (only one girl did I repeat), over 4 days.
Monday. Wednesday during the days in Sosua was very slim picking, I would say I didn't even say anyything above a 7.
However Thursday and especially Friday picked up during the day.
Only made it out once to Sosua at night (midnight I think Wednesday) and WOW what a difference!
How do people focus? Theres so many to choose from?
On a side not though, the girls in Puerto Plata were absolutely stunning!
I got a lot of looks from the girls in PP.
At first in Sosua I got no love from the girls!
Then I was told I look too dominican, so I dressed a little more touristy.
I def have to go back, planning the return trip as we speak. This time alone!
Well I'm back home.
Wow is all I can say.
I don't even know where to begin. I wanted to day by day reports, not sure though if anyone really cares to hear that much detail.
In the end 8 different girls, and 9 sessions (only one girl did I repeat), over 4 days.
Monday. Wednesday during the days in Sosua was very slim picking, I would say I didn't even say anyything above a 7.
However Thursday and especially Friday picked up during the day.
Only made it out once to Sosua at night (midnight I think Wednesday) and WOW what a difference!
How do people focus? Theres so many to choose from?
On a side not though, the girls in Puerto Plata were absolutely stunning!
I got a lot of looks from the girls in PP.
At first in Sosua I got no love from the girls!
Then I was told I look too dominican, so I dressed a little more touristy.
I def have to go back, planning the return trip as we speak. This time alone!Your report is much appreciated. I'll be in Sosua for my first overnight visit on Thursday afternoon for a weekend of fun and I was worried that Thurs. Daytime and Friday daytime would be a chica ghost-town.
Your report is much appreciated. I'll be in Sosua for my first overnight visit on Thursday afternoon for a weekend of fun and I was worried that Thurs. Daytime and Friday daytime would be a chica ghost-town. Guys who go to the DR for the first time always have a fantastic experience. This board tends to be dominated by a number of old lags who have burned out long ago, so take some of the negative stuff you read with a pinch of salt.
Mr Enternational
06-02-14, 15:21
At first in Sosua I got no love from the girls! Then I was told I look too dominican, so I dressed a little more touristy. Wow. This is the first time I have heard that. Usually people on traveling sites give advice telling people that they need to dress more like locals instead of like the tourists that they are.
Wow. This is the first time I have heard that. Usually people on traveling sites give advice telling people that they need to dress more like locals instead of like the tourists that they are.In tourist traps like Sosua, girls aren't looking for Dominicans. They are looking for a guy in flip-flops, shorts and a tank top. In big cities like Santo Domingo, and Santiago girls gravitate toward the locals and the way they dress. Those big cities don't have tourist traps so blending in is recommended.
Your report is much appreciated. I'll be in Sosua for my first overnight visit on Thursday afternoon for a weekend of fun and I was worried that Thurs. Daytime and Friday daytime would be a chica ghost-town.Thursday and Friday were very well stocked in the daytime.
Feel free to post or PM if you have any questions, glad to help if I can. I had a ton of questions before going.
Wow. This is the first time I have heard that. Usually people on traveling sites give advice telling people that they need to dress more like locals instead of like the tourists that they are.Yes it was odd. But my friends were experiencing some similar reactions in Sosua.
But yes, I had a few chicas tell me you look Dominican.
On the resorts it was my wife who was always getting asked for I'd as she looks Haitian.
In fact, every time I was with my wife talking to locals (trying), they would always ask her why she doesn't speak spanish LOL.
Sosua. Day 2.
Well let met start by sharing my somewhat comical bad experience in Sosua.
I started my day as usual, around 11 am in Sosua. Went to a few different bars to do some work, in search of good wifi (no luck), and good people watching locations.
This took me up to around 3:30 pm.
Now it was time to take care of other work.
Did the usual walk up and down a few times. Nothing special, then got in my jeep and drove around a bit, again nothing special. I did see a few who appealed to my taste, but they either failed the interview because I could tell they were too hardcore pro, or we couldn't agree on services.
Finally, on a last stroll, I saw. Can't even remember her name. Let's call her Anna.
So, Anna grossly didn't seem to be too hardcore, and she agreed to my services.
OK, all is good. We get in my rental, and start driving to a cabana that she knows. Mistake #1. Using her choice of cabana.
In the jeep we seem to comfortable with each other, using google translate to converse, and she seems pleasant enough.
I asked for some kissing while driving, to make sure she would do that. Check.
Also asked for some BBJ while driving. Check.
So we get to Dolce Secreto. Which I know is a popular spot.
First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.
My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2.
Now Anna seems to know the people working there very well. Manuel I think was the guys name. Warning #3.
Well, we eventually get the room. 600RD.
Before doing anything I again ask for some DFK to get over my subconscious telling me this isn't good, and she complies.
So, now I'm like ok lets get down to it!
I ask her, are you not going to shower? She said no she doesn't need to. Hmmm. Warning #4.
So I quickly washup, and get on the bed and start kissing. Ok her kissing has decreased in passion.
Oh yes, and she ordered a bag of chips. So after 10 secs of kissing, she stops to crunch on some chips.
So now, I say ok, undress lets see your body. Busted!
This chica has saggy titties, propped up with her bra, and mad stretch marks on her belly. SHIT.
OK let me just pop my nut and get it over with.
Pulled out my magic toy (no, a battery operated one LOL), and start using it on her pussy. She is in heat now, getting wet.
OK, time for some BBJ, I roll over on my back, she strokes it a few times and asks for the condom. WTF!
We start arguing about what the hell is going on (as best as I can with google translate).
So I do have a bad habit of over reacting.
So, I just say fuck it.
I get up and get dressed. She is speaking to me in spanish. No idea what she is saying. No money has exchanged hands yet.
Now this is funny. So, I go to a door to leave the room, and it's locked.
I'm like WTF again. I unlatch whatever I could see from the inside. No go. Door is locked from outside.
This reminded me of the brothels in SXM. You would walk through a maze of prison cells, locked before and after you get to the chicas room.
So I thought great, I'm locked in from the outside, and this chica is the only way out.
So now I say OK, get me the fuck out. Here is your money (I think it was 2000RD).
She takes the money and says ok lets go. And proceeds to leave using a different door!
I was trying to open up the wrong fucking door! What an idiot!
So now I'm even more angry at my own stupidity and the situation.
I leave my rental in the garage and walk to the front gates hoping to explain and rectify the situation with Manuel.
My offering was this. You got your 600 for the 10 minutes for the room, fine. I will give this ***** 1000RD for her fuckin time, but I want 1000RD back.
This seemed entirely fair to me, in fact probably unfair to me, but I just wanted to get the fuck out of there.
So now this 'discussion' went on for about half an hour. He would not take my side, and of course she wasn't going to give me back any money.
I didn't know what to do.
I tried to threaten I would call the cops.
That seemed to spark some reaction, and the discussion between manuel and anna went on again.
In the end, nothing. He would not enforce anything and she would not refund anything.
At this point he showed me the number for the police, so I knew my bluff was over now.
I left there pissed to fuckin hell. Until I did the math.
So even though I was ripped off 2600RD (61 USD). I was really arguing about 1000RD (23 USD).
Hey, I've been ripped off more than that, and when I realized I was just arguing over 20 dollars. My mind rested somewhat.
And as far as my obligatory bad experience in Sosua, I can accept 60 dollars.
Well, that's my ridiculous bad experience.
Member #4351
06-02-14, 18:14
. Mistake #1. Using her choice of cabana.
Its the only one in Sosua.
First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.
My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2.
Why?
Now Anna seems to know the people working there very well. Manuel I think was the guys name. Warning #3.
Shes a hooker, its the only cabana in Sosua and youre surprised she knows the guy who works there?
I ask her, are you not going to shower? She said no she doesn't need to. Hmmm. Warning #4.
Maybe she had just bathed in her house.
So now this 'discussion' went on for about half an hour. He would not take my side, and of course she wasn't going to give me back any money.
I didn't know what to do. Why did you think the guy had anything to do with her money? I think you were lucky you cut your losses and didn't push it. Things could have gone south quickly, especially since you don't speak any Spanish.
Manizales911
06-02-14, 18:53
So we get to Dolce Secreto. Which I know is a popular spot.
First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.
My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2. For your first time to Sosua you did okay considering you don't speak spanish, a few things to point out.
Dolce Secreto is the ONLY cabaña in Sosua so it was the girls only choice.
Most cabañas have gates and quite a few have the tire shredder things.
Don't expect the cabaña management to help in disputes, it just doesn't work that way, you are on your own.
You did the right thing by giving her the money and cutting your losses. Some guys on here will disagree but it was your first time in Sosua and you don't speak the language so you were at a disadvantage. Once you got undressed and in bed with her you were committed to paying her, very few guys would have gotten out of there without giving her any money and the cops will side with the girl every single time, the last thing you want to do is call the cops unless there is violence resulting in injury or major theft and you better be able to prove it.
Sosua. Day 2.
So, Anna grossly didn't seem to be too hardcore, and she agreed to my services.
OK, all is good. We get in my rental, and start driving to a cabana that she knows. Mistake #1. Using her choice of cabana.
In the jeep we seem to comfortable with each other, using google translate to converse, and she seems pleasant enough.
I asked for some kissing while driving, to make sure she would do that. Check.
Also asked for some BBJ while driving. Check.
So we get to Dolce Secreto. Which I know is a popular spot.
First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.
My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2.
Now Anna seems to know the people working there very well. Manuel I think was the guys name. Warning #3.
Well, we eventually get the room. 600RD.
Before doing anything I again ask for some DFK to get over my subconscious telling me this isn't good, and she complies.
So, now I'm like ok lets get down to it!
I ask her, are you not going to shower? She said no she doesn't need to. Hmmm. Warning #4.
So I quickly washup, and get on the bed and start kissing. Ok her kissing has decreased in passion.
Oh yes, and she ordered a bag of chips. So after 10 secs of kissing, she stops to crunch on some chips.
So now, I say ok, undress lets see your body. Busted!
This chica has saggy titties, propped up with her bra, and mad stretch marks on her belly. SHIT.
OK let me just pop my nut and get it over with.
Pulled out my magic toy (no, a battery operated one LOL), and start using it on her pussy. She is in heat now, getting wet.
OK, time for some BBJ, I roll over on my back, she strokes it a few times and asks for the condom. WTF!
We start arguing about what the hell is going on (as best as I can with google translate).
So I do have a bad habit of over reacting.
So, I just say fuck it.
I get up and get dressed. She is speaking to me in spanish. No idea what she is saying. No money has exchanged hands yet.
Now this is funny. So, I go to a door to leave the room, and it's locked.
I'm like WTF again. I unlatch whatever I could see from the inside. No go. Door is locked from outside.
This reminded me of the brothels in SXM. You would walk through a maze of prison cells, locked before and after you get to the chicas room.
So I thought great, I'm locked in from the outside, and this chica is the only way out.
So now I say OK, get me the fuck out. Here is your money (I think it was 2000RD).
She takes the money and says ok lets go. And proceeds to leave using a different door!
I was trying to open up the wrong fucking door! What an idiot!
So now I'm even more angry at my own stupidity and the situation.
I leave my rental in the garage and walk to the front gates hoping to explain and rectify the situation with Manuel.
My offering was this. You got your 600 for the 10 minutes for the room, fine. I will give this ***** 1000RD for her fuckin time, but I want 1000RD back.
This seemed entirely fair to me, in fact probably unfair to me, but I just wanted to get the fuck out of there.
So now this 'discussion' went on for about half an hour. He would not take my side, and of course she wasn't going to give me back any money.
I didn't know what to do.
I tried to threaten I would call the cops.
That seemed to spark some reaction, and the discussion between manuel and anna went on again.
In the end, nothing. He would not enforce anything and she would not refund anything.
At this point he showed me the number for the police, so I knew my bluff was over now.
I left there pissed to fuckin hell. Until I did the math.
So even though I was ripped off 2600RD (61 USD). I was really arguing about 1000RD (23 USD).
Hey, I've been ripped off more than that, and when I realized I was just arguing over 20 dollars. My mind rested somewhat.
And as far as my obligatory bad experience in Sosua, I can accept 60 dollars.
Well, that's my ridiculous bad experience. This would make a great comedy movie. Probably you were in Cabana #1 and the bathroom door lock was tricky-the door you tried to exit through-it was like that the last time I was there.
I am not sure that she failed to comply with the deal. Perhaps you thought you had agreed on a blow job without a condom. Is that it? But you had got her "in heat" using the vibrator. She wanted to fuck. She wanted to fuck with a condom. Understandable, I think. But apparently you do not want to fuck this hot horny woman who is gagging for some dick. Oka-aay!
As far as the tits and the stretch marks, did you not do any due diligence before you engaged her services, like asking her if she had children, checking out her body, Mongering 101 stuff? As far as the potato chips, you could have waited for her to finish, offered her a drink, etc. Probably she was hungry.
I think I would have sided with her too, if you originally agreed on 2000 pesos. If you only agreed on 1000 pesos, then I don't see why you gave her 2000. Because you could not open the bathroom door?
Anyway you have gained some valuable experience in mongering and probably won't make the same mistakes again.
Incidentally, I highly recommend Dolce Secreto and have never had any problems there, except that I find the porn on the TV excessively gross.
Why did you think the guy had anything to do with her money? I think you were lucky you cut your losses and didn't push it. Things could have gone south quickly, especially since you don't speak any Spanish.I was just hoping he could have been a somewhat neutral third party and understood my rationale of still paying her, just not the full amount.
Yes, when my mind cleared slightly I realized this was a rather minimal damage type of lesson.
This would make a great comedy movie. Probably you were in Cabana #1 and the bathroom door lock was tricky-the door you tried to exit through-it was like that the last time I was there.
I am not sure that she failed to comply with the deal. Perhaps you thought you had agreed on a blow job without a condom. Is that it? But you had got her "in heat" using the vibrator. She wanted to fuck. She wanted to fuck with a condom. Understandable, I think. But apparently you do not want to fuck this hot horny woman who is gagging for some dick. Oka-aay!
As far as the tits and the stretch marks, did you not do any due diligence before you engaged her services, like asking her if she had children, checking out her body, Mongering 101 stuff? As far as the potato chips, you could have waited for her to finish, offered her a drink, etc. Probably she was hungry.
I think I would have sided with her too, if you originally agreed on 2000 pesos. If you only agreed on 1000 pesos, then I don't see why you gave her 2000. Because you could not open the bathroom door?
Anyway you have gained some valuable experience in mongering and probably won't make the same mistakes again.
Incidentally, I highly recommend Dolce Secreto and have never had any problems there, except that I find the porn on the TV excessively gross.I agree this was somewhat a funny situation in hind sight, which is the reason I posted it as my first Sosua report.
No the cabana was further on into the establishment, don't think it was #1.
The door wasn't the bathroom door, it was the door where you exchange money / food etc. So understandably, it's locked from the outside as well.
Definitely agreed to BBJ. My spanish is minimal, but I clearly know how to say and understand some things. Every other chica clearly understood as well.
In fact with "Anna", it was written out with google translate (chupa sin condon).
Asking about babies is in my top 5 list of usual questions, and I asked her as well. She denied any children. Part of the reason I chose her is because she looked younger, and as such was hoping for someone nulparous.
After this incident, I mostly chose women who were exposing their stomachs, and if not I asked to see their stomachs and titties in the car.
Also of note, 4 other chicas I had actually did have babies with NO stretch marks / tittie damage etc. I have seen this a few times in NYC, but perhaps only around 5% prevalence. Is this more common here in the DR? Something in the water? LOL.
They are looking for a guy in flip-flops, shorts and a tank top. And the smart phone with Google translate, LOL.
I think the girls will take a guy dressed nice with a ride just the same. The key is, no matter how you dress, these chicas see a constant enough flow of gringos to read certain signals and scenarios quickly. For you, it's a vacation. For them, it's a lifestyle!
Dolce Secreto is the ONLY cabaa in Sosua so it was the girls only choice.
If Dolce Secreto is full and you have a car, there is also a cabana on the far side of Sabaneta on the main Highway 5 that is a bit closer than Puerto Plata. There is a also a place called the hotel Europa on the Highway 5 in Los Cangrejos, which is closer, but I have never been there. It doesn't have drive in parking, just a short stay hotel.
Mr Enternational
06-03-14, 06:00
OK, time for some BBJ, I roll over on my back, she strokes it a few times and asks for the condom. WTF! We start arguing about what the hell is going on (as best as I can with google translate). So I do have a bad habit of over reacting. So, I just say fuck it. I get up and get dressed. So you call the session off because the girl wants to use a condom? Then you grossly overpay the chick 2000 pesos, beg the motel worker who has nothing to do with the situation to get 1000 of it back for you, AND threatened to call the cops? If they would have come YOU are the one who would have had the problem. You really do have a bad habit of overreacting. Sounds like you need to stick to mongering in a controlled environment. Freelancers ain't for you buddy. Hookers don't give refunds!
Now this is funny. So, I go to a door to leave the room, and it's locked. I'm like WTF again. I unlatch whatever I could see from the inside. No go. Door is locked from outside. She takes the money and says ok lets go. And proceeds to leave using a different door!P.S. You tried to leave through the door that is next to the revolving window where you put the money to pay for the motel and snacks. That is only for motel staff access. That is the door they use when they come clean the rooms. The one adjacent to that leads downstairs to the garage. And the door next to that is the bathroom.
So you call the session off because the girl wants to use a condom?We had agreed before hand that BBJ was on the menu. She performed BBJ in the car on the way to the cabana. Once in the cabana, she flipped the script and said CBJ.
P.S. You tried to leave through the door that is next to the revolving window where you put the money to pay for the motel and snacks. That is only for motel staff access. That is the door they use when they come clean the rooms. The one adjacent to that leads downstairs to the garage. And the door next to that is the bathroom.Yes, I stated I realized I was trying to exit through the wrong door. I posted this report with the intent of providing some amusement.
Tempoecorto
06-03-14, 14:20
and as such was hoping for someone nulparous.Funny! I don't think I have ever gone beyond using viviparous. On that note, finding a nulliparous female in a land where females get accessed at 13 or less makes it very hard, well nigh impossible, I would imagine. Indeed one might argue that such early fecundity keeps the flow of females towards Sosua and similar locations alive.
Do not let others jumping on you cramp your style. Most mean well and no one had it perfected the first few trips.
So you call the session off because the girl wants to use a condom? Then you grossly overpay the chick 2000 pesos, beg the motel worker who has nothing to do with the situation to get 1000 of it back for you, AND threatened to call the cops? If they would have come YOU are the one who would have had the problem. You really do have a bad habit of overreacting. Sounds like you need to stick to mongering in a controlled environment. Freelancers ain't for you buddy. Hookers don't give refunds!P. S. You tried to leave through the door that is next to the revolving window where you put the money to pay for the motel and snacks. That is only for motel staff access. That is the door they use when they come clean the rooms. The one adjacent to that leads downstairs to the garage. And the door next to that is the bathroom. You need to lighten up on this guy. He had the balls to post what happened knowing full well it was a messy affair and doesn't deserve to be berated by you. He's been reaching out for advice. Chill out Mr. E.
E is just being straight up. My man did everything in the book wrong. Envolving the Cabana people daa, who does that. The girls was willing to work and he changes his mine and wants her to take a pay cut. I thought he was pulling our leg. He was lucky she was a nice girl or things could have got real ugly.
You need to lighten up on this guy. He had the balls to post what happened knowing full well it was a messy affair and doesn't deserve to be berated by you. He's been reaching out for advice. Chill out Mr. E.
E is just being straight up. My man did everything in the book wrong. Envolving the Cabana people daa, who does that. The girls was willing to work and he changes his mine and wants her to take a pay cut. I thought he was pulling our leg. He was lucky she was a nice girl or things could have got real ugly. I have a problem with Mr. E's berating, not the facts!
Mr Enternational
06-03-14, 18:32
We had agreed before hand that BBJ was on the menu. She performed BBJ in the car on the way to the cabana. Once in the cabana, she flipped the script and said CBJ. So you admit that she did do the BBBJ? Did you specify at all during the negotiations how much time would have to be spent on the evolution? LOL. Just bustin your balls man. It makes the forum a lot more interesting with reports other than drinking, picking up girl, girl sucks peter, girl gets fucked, gave girl money, girl leaves.
E is just being straight up. My man did everything in the book wrong. Envolving the Cabana people daa, who does that. The girls was willing to work and he changes his mine and wants her to take a pay cut. I thought he was pulling our leg. He was lucky she was a nice girl or things could have got real ugly.She was not willing to do what we had agreed upon.
So you admit that she did do the BBBJ? Did you specify at all during the negotiations how much time would have to be spent on the evolution? LOL. Just bustin your balls man. It makes the forum a lot more interesting with reports other than drinking, picking up girl, girl sucks peter, girl gets fucked, gave girl money, girl leaves.LOL well that's the reason really I posted the report. For amusement. I'm well aware of what I did and didn't do wrong.
I'm glad you can laugh about it, I was really hoping only for that. For people to laugh about the screw ups!
I think it's time to post the rest of the good reviews, LOL which basically are as you paraphrased. Drink, pick up, fuck, pay, next.
So you admit that she did do the BBBJ? Did you specify at all during the negotiations how much time would have to be spent on the evolution? LOL. Just bustin your balls man. It makes the forum a lot more interesting with reports other than drinking, picking up girl, girl sucks peter, girl gets fucked, gave girl money, girl leaves. I'll prepare myself for an upcoming ball busting from you!
Guys who go to the DR for the first time always have a fantastic experience. This board tends to be dominated by a number of old lags who have burned out long ago, so take some of the negative stuff you read with a pinch of salt.Thanks for the advice Frannie!
Yes I've noticed odd feedback / information.
Starting to figure out maybe there's a bit of burnout or what not involved.
No matter. I'm well grounded an this is all for fun anyways.
If you noticed you notice my posting history I almost exclusively just report facts / experiences and don't get involved in tangential discussions.
Always a pleasure to help people out though, that's what I love about this and other boards.
ConquerorVal
06-03-14, 23:15
The last two times I stayed at Casa Cayena, I never liked the skanks that hung out at Casa Cayena, they where kind of like fly's on shit. Sometimes they would ask if they could take a shower in your room or buy them a drink. They preyed on the "lazy" mongers staying at the hotel. The worst part of them hanging around was that a few times when one of my DC dating site girls would come over, it would be awkward for me when I would check them in and the skanks would be hanging out on the couches in reception or on the front steps of the hotel giving me a funny look. My DC girls didn't like it either seeing all these skanks hanging around. I was at the Casa at the same time as you were. I have returned a week ago today. During my seven night's stay, there were at least three different times that the girls visiting were doable. I am not sure what gives you the high moral ground to call these girls skanks, or what your definition of a skank is. Perhaps you saw my skank-19 year old, skinny, tattoos and piercings (more on her later). Show some class and don't be so liberal with the skank word. Its offensive and aggressive. Mongering, just like soccer is a beautiful sport.
ConquerorVal
06-03-14, 23:32
have no intentions of returning I will devote more of my.
Time and money to Colombia in the future.
Chris Recently, I had my second trip to Dominican Republic , in less than a year, and it was fantastic. PSE, Haitians, Novia. You will be missed Chris. Your contributions to the DR thread, for me at least have been invaluable. Thanks.
I was at the Casa at the same time as you were. I have returned a week ago today. During my seven night's stay, there were at least three different times that the girls visiting were doable. I am not sure what gives you the high moral ground to call these girls skanks, or what your definition of a skank is. Perhaps you saw my skank-19 year old, skinny, tattoos and piercings (more on her later). Show some class and don't be so liberal with the skank word. Its offensive and aggressive. Mongering, just like soccer is a beautiful sport. What I'm curious about is how a girl from DC comes to visit your in Sosua, and is offended by working girls sitting around in a hotel lobby. That just doesn't even make sense. It's SOSUA. I don't expect any person in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but surely women in DR know why there are so many single travelers there.
Mr Enternational
06-04-14, 02:03
What I'm curious about is how a girl from DC comes to visit your in Sosua, and is offended by working girls sitting around in a hotel lobby. That just doesn't even make sense. It's SOSUA. I don't expect any person in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but surely women in DR know why there are so many single travelers there. Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it.
Manizales911
06-04-14, 02:57
Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it. If there was a place like Sosua anywhere in my home country I sure as hell would know it existed and what went on there.
Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it. I agree with you on this, I have a DC girl with me at Casa Cayena right now and she is clueless as to what goes on here. However one of my other DC girls knows exactly what goes on here.
Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it. Did you read the part where I said that I don't expect everyone in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but using logical reasoning you would expect one to at least have an idea if they live in DR? It's called logical reasoning. Do people living in the United States know what Vegas is all about? 99% of the population may not know everything that goes on there, but those who have heard about it and live in the United States will surely have some sort of an idea. Sosua is not a big city, it's main areas are concentrated on a couple key parts of the town. And those certain parts are well known for something. Sure, there was a point in time where I did not know about Sosua. But I am not a local. I researched it on my own.
But as an American, did I know the general idea about what goes on in cities like Vegas? Yes. And that's years before I ever visited. And Vegas is not a small city. While it's possible that a local does know everything that goes on in Sosua, it's logical to assume that a vast majority of the local population that has heard of the city of Sosua, has a general idea of what it it is known for. I have interacted with women on DC before, and when I tell them that I have visited Sosua before. They know what goes on there. I cannot think of one single time where a woman I've talked to who is a local living in Santo Domingo, Santiago, Puerto Plata, Caberete, Punta Cana, etc. Or anywhere else. Has no idea what Sosua is about. So once again. It's certainly possible that not everyone living in DR knows what goes on there. But it's a logical assumption that a vast majority has a general idea.
What I'm curious about is how a girl from DC comes to visit your in Sosua, and is offended by working girls sitting around in a hotel lobby. That just doesn't even make sense. It's SOSUA. I don't expect any person in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but surely women in DR know why there are so many single travelers there. Semi-pros or or most of the girls I have met on the DC dating site consider them selves a cut above the girls that work in the streets, Additionally there are girls on the DC dating site that are truly oblivious as to what goes on in Sosua, (see Mr. E's rebuttal) .
Semi-pros or or most of the girls I have met on the DC dating site consider them selves a cut above the girls that work in the streets, Additionally there are girls on the DC dating site that are truly oblivious as to what goes on in Sosua, (see Mr. E's rebuttal) . I read the rebuttal. Did you read mine?
Where are these girls coming from? You are telling me you got women (be it a pro or a non-pro) to come out to some town named Sosua, for the first time. Or they visited previously but chose to conveniently avoid the main part of town. However it may be, but they trusted to come out and meet you and they have no idea what goes on in Sosua?
Or do you think it's plausible that these women you met do certainly think they're a cut above the rest, and are simply pretending to not know and be disgusted by the things they see? While I don't necessarily doubt your story, I am quite surprised. Quite surprised.
I read the rebuttal. Did you read mine?
Where are these girls coming from? You are telling me you got women (be it a pro or a non-pro) to come out to some town named Sosua, for the first time. Or they visited previously but chose to conveniently avoid the main part of town. However it may be, but they trusted to come out and meet you and they have no idea what goes on in Sosua?
Or do you think it's plausible that these women you met do certainly think they're a cut above the rest, and are simply pretending to not know and be disgusted by the things they see? While I don't necessarily doubt your story, I am quite surprised. Quite surprised.Most of the DC girls I know come from the Puerto Plata area, and yes most of them have not been in Rumbas or Bar Latino and have seen firsthand what goes on here. If you had some DC dating site experience you wouldn't be so surprised.
Most of the DC girls I know come from the Puerto Plata area, and yes most of them have not been in Rumbas or Bar Latino and have seen firsthand what goes on here. If you had some DC dating site experience you wouldn't be so surprised.Did you read what I said? I have interacted with many women from DC, I have been on there since August of 2013. I have met quite a few, they are from all parts of the country including Puerto Plata. Many women ask if I've been to the DR before, I let them know yes plenty of times and I tell them where I've been. And that includes Sosua. And I have yet to meet a single woman who is from DR that does not know what Sosua is known for. Many say they go to Sosua for the beach, and it has a nice beach (compared to USA Beaches) that sees plenty of visitors from Europe, USA, Asia, and locals from DR. But people know what Sosua is known for, many also don't want to talk about it because they don't want their country to be known for that or a town to be judged for just that. Which is perfectly understandable. But once again. Sosua is not the size of Vegas, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Pattaya, Rio, Medellin etc. It's significantly smaller and locals know what their country is all about.
But people know what Sosua is known for, many also don't want to talk about it because they don't want their country to be known for that or a town to be judged for just that. Which is perfectly understandable. But once again. Sosua is not the size of Vegas, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Pattaya, Rio, Medellin etc. It's significantly smaller and locals know what their country is all about.
I agree with Puntz79. Any DR woman who tries to tell you she doesn't know what goes on in Sosua, is hoping you are stupid enough to believe her coy act. Just because a female has never been to Sosua or has never been a hoe, doesn't mean she doesn't know what is going on in her own country. Come on guys, nobody is that dumb!
Sosua. Day 2.
I left there pissed to fuckin hell. Until I did the math.
So even though I was ripped off 2600RD (61 USD). I was really arguing about 1000RD (23 USD).
Hey, I've been ripped off more than that, and when I realized I was just arguing over 20 dollars. My mind rested somewhat.
And as far as my obligatory bad experience in Sosua, I can accept 60 dollars.
Well, that's my ridiculous bad experience.Ah the "Golden Rule" of mongering.
When you're in their surroundings or unfamiliar territory, and something goes wrong, immediately realize that you have made a bad judgement, or have been gamed.
Smile, cut your losses, pay the price, get out of there, and charge it up to experience. For the sake of a few bucks, you can avoid escalating the problem to who knows where, and you won't make enemies, who might try to get even with you.
The last time a chica tried to game me, I was in my friendly hotel surrounded by friendly staff, so I extended the drama a little bit, and she left without getting all she demanded. But that's a different situation entirely.
But thanks for a great post.
IMO there are all types of women in the DR on Dating sites, or social sites like Tagged or Badoo. Enough are non pros who work, or go to school, many others don't work. Some really want a serious relationship, enough dont. Either way, having never visited Sosua or not knowing how things work in Sosua, does not necessarily mean a woman is completely ignorant to the basics in terms of what Sosua is known for. I would not trust a womans claim or act of ignorance of not knowing anything about the basics of what Sosua is known for. But I would trust that she may have never been to Sosua. She gets no points just because she may have never been to Sosua. The point is, if she comes there to meet a foreigner, its clear enough that she is aware of what is going to go down. Sex and compensation on some level.
Also many of the women on dating sites may think they are a cut above the women in Sosua, however many arent much different. It's just that their technique and strategy for connecting with men and how they get compensated is different. Most dating site women are still agreeing to come to a mans hotel to have sex and eventually resulting in getting paid for their time. If things go well, they can establish a regular thing whenever he comes back. If she's fortunate to turn it into a WU hookup it's better for her.
I don't see the significance of determining whether the woman knows how things work in Sosua or she doesn't? The point is, she came to fuck a man (a foreigner and not a local) that she barely knows. A woman being offended by women hanging around at the mans hotel, is nothing more than competitive female jealously, and / or her putting on a performance of embarrassment in front of the man she came to see. I'm sure the goal of being compensated by her new cash cow trumps any concerns many of those women may have about their self image in relation to those women in Sosua. But the performance is necessary. When it is time to leave and go home, she may have to put on an even bigger academy award performance of feigning surprise when the man offers her money for her time, "err I mean for her children" "err I mean to pay her rent". And hoping she garners the right response in the man of feeling like he scored a good one because she refused or hesitated in taking his offering. However, soon to come is her being quite comfortable down the road of straight up asking for money, help, favors,gifts etc. But it usually starts off with feigned hesitation. And "Im different, Im not like those women in the street".
Meanwhile, these same women on dating websites are likely to continue talking to and meeting other men, and repeating the same scenario. Some women may indeed be content with working on one man and quit the dating site for a while, while a majority of other women enjoy juggling several men they connected with. You can best believe, the best acting in the world is going on with many women on dating sites, and the men playing down and trying not to draw too much attention to themselves of what they want from their hookups.
A woman doesn't have to know about Sosua or have visited Sosua. Prostitution is in the hearts and minds of women by nature. Being compensated for their sex comes natural to enough women. It doesnt matter where they practice at. Even men want to believe they are cut above other men when they connect with non pros vs straight up p4p chicas. But in the end, the man is the one conveniently and happily paying the majority of any expenses when dealing with or towards women in the DR. Its still p4p just looked at in a more dignified manner. Were all egoists in this game.
IMO there are all types of women in the DR on Dating sites, or social sites like Tagged or Badoo. Enough are non pros who work, or go to school, many others don't work. Some really want a serious relationship, enough dont. Either way, having never visited Sosua or not knowing how things work in Sosua, does not necessarily mean a woman is completely ignorant to the basics in terms of what Sosua is known for. I would not trust a womans claim or act of ignorance of not knowing anything about the basics of what Sosua is known for. But I would trust that she may have never been to Sosua. She gets no points just because she may have never been to Sosua. The point is, if she comes there to meet a foreigner, its clear enough that she is aware of what is going to go down. Sex and compensation on some level.
Also many of the women on dating sites may think they are a cut above the women in Sosua, however many arent much different. It's just that their technique and strategy for connecting with men and how they get compensated is different. Most dating site women are still agreeing to come to a mans hotel to have sex and eventually resulting in getting paid for their time. If things go well, they can establish a regular thing whenever he comes back. If she's fortunate to turn it into a WU hookup it's better for her.
I don't see the significance of determining whether the woman knows how things work in Sosua or she doesn't? The point is, she came to fuck a man (a foreigner and not a local) that she barely knows. A woman being offended by women hanging around at the mans hotel, is nothing more than competitive female jealously, and / or her putting on a performance of embarrassment in front of the man she came to see. I'm sure the goal of being compensated by her new cash cow trumps any concerns many of those women may have about their self image in relation to those women in Sosua. But the performance is necessary. When it is time to leave and go home, she may have to put on an even bigger academy award performance of feigning surprise when the man offers her money for her time, "err I mean for her children" "err I mean to pay her rent". And hoping she garners the right response in the man of feeling like he scored a good one because she refused or hesitated in taking his offering. However, soon to come is her being quite comfortable down the road of straight up asking for money, help, favors,gifts etc. But it usually starts off with feigned hesitation. And "Im different, Im not like those women in the street".
Meanwhile, these same women on dating websites are likely to continue talking to and meeting other men, and repeating the same scenario. Some women may indeed be content with working on one man and quit the dating site for a while, while a majority of other women enjoy juggling several men they connected with. You can best believe, the best acting in the world is going on with many women on dating sites, and the men playing down and trying not to draw too much attention to themselves of what they want from their hookups.
A woman doesn't have to know about Sosua or have visited Sosua. Prostitution is in the hearts and minds of women by nature. Being compensated for their sex comes natural to enough women. It doesnt matter where they practice at. Even men want to believe they are cut above other men when they connect with non pros vs straight up p4p chicas. But in the end, the man is the one conveniently and happily paying the majority of any expenses when dealing with or towards women in the DR. Its still p4p just looked at in a more dignified manner. Were all egoists in this game.You nailed it with this post as I have been unable to articulate my thoughts on all this.
Anyway you have gained some valuable experience in mongering and probably won't make the same mistakes again.
Incidentally, I highly recommend Dolce Secreto and have never had any problems there, except that I find the porn on the TV excessively gross.I have wanted to put the tv on porn before when I was there to show a chica some moves but could never find it. What channel is porn on at the Dulce.
I have wanted to put the tv on porn before when I was there to show a chica some moves but could never find it. What channel is porn on at the Dulce.You will find what you want on channels 201,202, and 203.
Ah the "Golden Rule" of mongering.
When you're in their surroundings or unfamiliar territory, and something goes wrong, immediately realize that you have made a bad judgement, or have been gamed.
Smile, cut your losses, pay the price, get out of there, and charge it up to experience. For the sake of a few bucks, you can avoid escalating the problem to who knows where, and you won't make enemies, who might try to get even with you.
The last time a chica tried to game me, I was in my friendly hotel surrounded by friendly staff, so I extended the drama a little bit, and she left without getting all she demanded. But that's a different situation entirely.
But thanks for a great post.Thanks for the great reply Oakie.
You nailed the experience on the head.
Yesterday hit the waves at Playa Encuentro (Hideway Beach) and the waves where overhead but at 7 AM in the morning it was like being at Huntington Beach with multiple riders taking off on the better waves. Today was in Sosua Bay in the afternoon and there were overhead waves breaking and nobody was out there! I stayed out about an hour and caught some great waves with some nice faces and drops. Waves by day, snapper by night, all at your door step, I love this place!
Two different chicas. One a regular, the other a DC chica. I haven't met her yet. I'm talking to both on Whatsapp today. Both just informed me that they are at the clinic. They both are complaining of having la gripe. I asked the regular to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a picture of her in the bed, a big ass bed. She has the sheet covering her up to her breasts, but she is wearing a regular blouse. And I can see the shadow of her wearing jeans under the sheets. I told her it doesn't look like she is in a clinic, and the size of the bed seems too big for a clinic. She suddenly dropped off communication. I asked for another photo of her room in the clinic. All I hear are crickets. Oh yeah she sent me 2 whatsapp audio messages of her coughing. This shit is funny as hell.
The DCupid chica may be preparing to ask me if I could send her money to help with her clinic bill. To be continued. Many of these women love telling us about their problems. Even if they dont know you well or have a relationship with you.
I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?
You nailed it with this post as I have been unable to articulate my thoughts on all this.Thanks Ace!
You nailed it with this post as I have been unable to articulate my thoughts on all this.It appears you are the one who is a bit confused. You call the "girls" who visit the hotel for our enjoyment Skanks, yet the girls you meet on (DC) over the Internet are somehow, so much better, because they feign disdain for other women, they know little or nothing about. Bravo is right. Oh Please! They live in the DR and you can be sure 95% of them know what is going on in Sosua. Hell, you meet them on the Internet! Pretty easy for them to Google Sosua before they jumped on a bus to visit you. Yet, I doubt that is even necessary. Like I stated before, why not stay in Puerto Plata, if the women in Sosua offend you and your friend's sensibilities so much? Oh, I forgot YOU GOT GAME. More like you got money. Not a bad thing. It is what it is.
RR.
ConquerorVal
06-04-14, 22:59
It appears you are the one who a bit confused. You call the "girls" who visit the hotel for our enjoyment Skanks, yet the girls you meet on (DC) over the Internet are somehow, so much better, because they feign disdain for other women, they know little or nothing about. Bravo is right. Oh Please! They live in the DR and you can be sure 95% of them know what is going on in Sosua. Hell, you meet them on the Internet! Pretty easy for them to Google Sosua before they jumped on a bus to visit you. Yet, I doubt that is even necessary. Like I stated before, why not stay in Puerto Plata, if the women in Sosua offend you and your friend's sensibilities so much? Oh, forgot YOU GOT GAME. More like you got money. Not a bad thing. It is what it is.
RR.Yes, I agree with you. I think a better word than confused is delusional. Sometimes you can tell more about the person using derogative terms, than the intended target. It makes that individual feel superior and better. Of course its all an illusion.
Two different chicas. One a regular, the other a DC chica. I haven't met her yet. I'm talking to both on Whatsapp today. Both just informed me that they are at the clinic. They both are complaining of having la gripe. I asked the regular to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a picture of her in the bed, a big ass bed. She has the sheet covering her up to her breasts, but she is wearing a regular blouse. And I can see the shadow of her wearing jeans under the sheets. I told her it doesn't look like she is in a clinic, and the size of the bed seems too big for a clinic. She suddenly dropped off communication. I asked for another photo of her room in the clinic. All I hear are crickets. Oh yeah she sent me 2 whatsapp audio messages of her coughing. This shit is funny as hell.
The DCupid chica may be preparing to ask me if I could send her money to help with her clinic bill. To be continued. Many of these women love telling us about their problems. Even if they dont know you well or have a relationship with you.
I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?Yup, I've seen this before. Chica from DC that I met up with a few times let me know the day after I left that she was at the clinic and had the same thing, la gripe. I was a little concerned at first and kept in the back of my mind that I have a good feeling about what is coming up next. She told me she was one of the lucky ones in DR that had insurance and had a good doctor. I said that's great.
Then she asked for $300 to pay her medical bills. And to buy a stove that she needs because she is moving out of her parents home. I guess it's nice to have a good doctor, I have a pretty good doctor. But I'd still pay my doctor, no matter how good or bad.
And WTF is up with the stove coming out of nowhere? It's interesting how they try to get creative with asking for money. The same chica has been telling me that Banco Popular has been calling her every day because she has a $300 loan to pay. I advised her that it might help to change up the amount a little bit. $300 for medical bills and a stove. Which I said no to. And then $300 for banco popular loan. She did not think very much on this one.
Yup, I've seen this before. Chica from DC that I met up with a few times let me know the day after I left that she was at the clinic and had the same thing, la gripe. I was a little concerned at first and kept in the back of my mind that I have a good feeling about what is coming up next. She told me she was one of the lucky ones in DR that had insurance and had a good doctor. I said that's great.
Then she asked for $300 to pay her medical bills. And to buy a stove that she needs because she is moving out of her parents home. I guess it's nice to have a good doctor, I have a pretty good doctor. But I'd still pay my doctor, no matter how good or bad.
And WTF is up with the stove coming out of nowhere? It's interesting how they try to get creative with asking for money. The same chica has been telling me that Banco Popular has been calling her every day because she has a $300 loan to pay. I advised her that it might help to change up the amount a little bit. $300 for medical bills and a stove. Which I said no to. And then $300 for banco popular loan. She did not think very much on this one.Your killing me here. LOL This is one of the drawbacks to trying to hookup with internet babes. Especially those we find out in the very beginning they are un or under employed.
I just asked the DC chica to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a photo but I can't verify when she took it. Plus she took more than hour to send it. I'm going to play this out to see how far she is willing to go with this. Meanwhile my regular who can't write for shit, can't even explain the picture she sent and still hasnt sent me a 2nd picture of her room at the clinic, that I requested. I think she is about to claim she aint going to send it because I don't believe her. If and when I see her again it will be back to our regular p4 p arrangement on a per use basis.
Two different chicas. One a regular, the other a DC chica. I haven't met her yet. I'm talking to both on Whatsapp today. Both just informed me that they are at the clinic. They both are complaining of having la gripe. I asked the regular to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a picture of her in the bed, a big ass bed. She has the sheet covering her up to her breasts, but she is wearing a regular blouse. And I can see the shadow of her wearing jeans under the sheets. I told her it doesn't look like she is in a clinic, and the size of the bed seems too big for a clinic. She suddenly dropped off communication. I asked for another photo of her room in the clinic. All I hear are crickets. Oh yeah she sent me 2 whatsapp audio messages of her coughing. This shit is funny as hell.
The DCupid chica may be preparing to ask me if I could send her money to help with her clinic bill. To be continued. Many of these women love telling us about their problems. Even if they dont know you well or have a relationship with you.
I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?I had one that post a pic on whatsapp in a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. Her cousin post the same kind of pic the same day. But then she sent me a pic of herself in Dlatins the next day.
I had one that post a pic on whatsapp in a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. Her cousin post the same kind of pic the same day. But then she sent me a pic of herself in Dlatins the next day.I've had one send me one of her arm and the IV in it. I felt bad. I hadn't heard from her in 2 days. 2 minutes later she asked me for $300 because she has to pay her hospital bills but can't pay for her rent and other expenses.
$300 that time too! Man, they always ask for $300. Or maybe it's just with me. Maybe all these girls I am talking to know each other and are telling each other to just try and get $300 from me. Which isn't exactly clever.
I had one that post a pic on whatsapp in a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. Her cousin post the same kind of pic the same day. But then she sent me a pic of herself in Dlatins the next day.Maybe it's the same chica? My DC chica also sent me a photo of her in what appears to be a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. The one I know claims to live close to Punta Cana. So maybe it isn't the same chica. She is 28, claims to have no kids.
I've had one send me one of her arm and the IV in it. I felt bad. I hadn't heard from her in 2 days. 2 minutes later she asked me for $300 because she has to pay her hospital bills but can't pay for her rent and other expenses.
$300 that time too! Man, they always ask for $300. Or maybe it's just with me. Maybe all these girls I am talking to know each other and are telling each other to just try and get $300 from me. Which isn't exactly clever.Was her name Dinorah? From Altagraci?
Was her name Dinorah? From Altagraci?Nope. But I do get plenty of messages from chica's named Altagracia. I usually get a sense for who I think is a pro and just wants money, and then who is a normal chica. But I believe the pro's are getting a little better at hiding it. Or their excuses anyways.
Maybe it's the same chica? My DC chica also sent me a photo of her in what appears to be a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. The one I know claims to live close to Punta Cana. So maybe it isn't the same chica. She is 28, claims to have no kids.The two chicks I'm talking about are Hatian "cousins".
Nope. But I do get plenty of messages from chica's named Altagracia. I usually get a sense for who I think is a pro and just wants money, and then who is a normal chica. But I believe the pro's are getting a little better at hiding it. Or their excuses anyways.I haven't bothered with DC for a while. And sometimes I question if its even worth the effort. Last trip in April\May was comprised mostly of about 6 regulars all rotated during my trip. 2 more I met were new to me. I knew what I had in those moments, and enjoyed them all. I met them all face to face in Sosua.
Online babes its different. You may not know if you really want to pursue the woman until you actually have a face to face. Before that you may have to deal with BS like what were discussing now. Requests for money, bring me a gift, I'm in the clinic, send me money to come to you, and whatever else they can conjure up. With my regulars or even unexplored talent I run across in Sosua, I seldom have to deal with that. Its p4 p, pay per use. Plain and simple.
The two chicks I'm talking about are Hatian "cousins".Ok then. Definitely different chicas. These testimonials represent how common it is for enough dudes to run across the same shit, just different women doing it.
I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?One of my DC chicas told me her electricity got shut off, it's endless with what they come up with.
It appears you are the one who is a bit confused. You call the "girls" who visit the hotel for our enjoyment Skanks, yet the girls you meet on (DC) over the Internet are somehow, so much better, because they feign disdain for other women, they know little or nothing about. Bravo is right. Oh Please! They live in the DR and you can be sure 95% of them know what is going on in Sosua. Hell, you meet them on the Internet! Pretty easy for them to Google Sosua before they jumped on a bus to visit you. Yet, I doubt that is even necessary. Like I stated before, why not stay in Puerto Plata, if the women in Sosua offend you and your friend's sensibilities so much? Oh, I forgot YOU GOT GAME. More like you got money. Not a bad thing. It is what it is.
RR.In regards to what I call the "Skanks" at the Hotel, and most of the girls on the Strip, I find them to be hardcore, sometimes pests, and pretty much all business. The experience's I've had meeting girls over the Internet has far surpassed the Skanks and Chica's I've taken from the Strip. So if that works for me, what's wrong with that. If your into purely sport-fucking for an hour or two, than pulling Chicas off the Strip or from the Hotel is the way to go, and at one time I used to do that. It sounds as though we have different styles as to how we operate down here. WX's 2005 post pretty much summed up the illusions / delusions of these girls. All of these girls are trying to make money and for some of them the thought of meeting someone on the Internet versus on the streets of Sosua is different for them in their minds, but it isn't. Whats different for me though is the experiences I'm having with them versus the one's off the street. I know there are other members on this board that can relate to what I'm trying to convey here.
One of my DC chicas told me her electricity got shut off, it's endless with what they come up with.LOL. Doesn't electricity get shutoff on the regular in the DR anyway? I guess she aint lying about her electricity, huh?
One of my DC chicas told me her electricity got shut off, it's endless with what they come up with.This also happens in the US, then the next thing you know the house catches fire because the residents are using candles while drunk. You probably haven't been around poor folks very much and don't know about these things.
I have been inside very flimsy wooden dwellings in the DR that have wooden partitions between rooms that don't go all the way to the top and flimsy curtains instead of doors. Just total fire traps when people are using candles to move around after dark. I am surprised not to see more house fires in the DR.
Send her the money. Quick!
This also happens in the US, then the next thing you know the house catches fire because the residents are using candles while drunk. You probably haven't been around poor folks very much and don't know about these things.
I have been inside very flimsy wooden dwellings in the DR that have wooden partitions between rooms that don't go all the way to the top and flimsy curtains instead of doors. Just total fire traps when people are using candles to move around after dark. I am surprised not to see more house fires in the DR.
Send her the money. Quick!I think some wise sage posted a list of these chica stories some time ago, and they do all use the same shit.
But, as you say, you have to be careful tarring them all with the same brush if the relationship is otherwise OK.
These things happen with regularity down there, so it's natural for the chicas to exploit them. It's like us calling in sick, with the "flue" or a bad "cold".
Some random requests from my GF:
My brother needs a blood transfusion.
The money you sent was stolen from me on the street.
My uncle is in ER. (Motoconcho accident).
My mother has no fridge (and lots of kids to care for).
I'm in hospital for an emergency operation.
My place had a fire.
The roof blew off.
I had to pawn some of the stuff you gave me, and I need money to get it back.
Can't get the electricity, internet, gas etc turned back on until I pay the bill.
Most of these I checked out independently, because I'm down there with the family a lot. Not sure about the robbery though.
Reluctant to post this trip report given all the "ball busting" lately on the forum but here goes. Arrived last Wednesday staying at my home away from home, Casa Cayena. Unfortunately there was a group of 10 guys staying here that made all kinds of noise and where disrespectful of the staff and other guests. Three guys I met on the flight down from JFK who were staying across the street at "El Rancho" were pissed off with all the noise coming from the eating area and the "pick up" football games in the street. The staff at the hotel didn't like these guys who didn't tip anybody. If these guys had stayed any longer I was going to check out! Truly a bunch of assholes which was the sentiment shared by the other guests who wanted to choke them. Casa Cayena is typically a very tranquil place and Wilfred did the best he could to manage these "pendejos".
On this trip I had planned to meet up with four new DC girls to add to my stable from my last two trips but haven't gotten past the first one! I met this one last week at the Taxi stand and took her to Baileys where I conduct my interviews before proceeding further. I didn't know it but this one turned out to be from Haiti and told me a lot of times people think she is Dominican. I've spent three nights with her and have cancelled / suspended meeting any new DC girls and had to re-schedule one of my DC girls who knew I was coming to town until this Sunday. I was eligible to become an AARP member many years ago and this 29 year old Haitain got 5 leches out of me one night and 4 the other nights. Last night I was woken up at 3:30 in the morning to an unsolicited blow job. This one is a Nympho and I am in Heaven. She's somewhat shy in public, speaks French Creole, Spanish, and English like a lot of the Haitains. I communicate with her primarily in Spanish and we have good physical "Quimica" chemistry together.
Besides hitting the waves at Playa Encuentro and Sosua Bay I plan on going to Santiago on Monday for a day with one of my DC girls before having my Haitain Nympho back over.
Reluctant to post this trip report given all the "ball busting" lately on the forum but here goes. Arrived last Wednesday staying at my home away from home, Casa Cayena. Unfortunately there was a group of 10 guys staying here that made all kinds of noise and where disrespectful of the staff and other guests. Three guys I met on the flight down from JFK who were staying across the street at "El Rancho" were pissed off with all the noise coming from the eating area and the "pick up" football games in the street. The staff at the hotel didn't like these guys who didn't tip anybody. If these guys had stayed any longer I was going to check out! Truly a bunch of assholes which was the sentiment shared by the other guests who wanted to choke them. Casa Cayena is typically a very tranquil place and Wilfred did the best he could to manage these "pendejos".
On this trip I had planned to meet up with four new DC girls to add to my stable from my last two trips but haven't gotten past the first one! I met this one last week at the Taxi stand and took her to Baileys where I conduct my interviews before proceeding further. I didn't know it but this one turned out to be from Haiti and told me a lot of times people think she is Dominican. I've spent three nights with her and have cancelled / suspended meeting any new DC girls and had to re-schedule one of my DC girls who knew I was coming to town until this Sunday. I was eligible to become an AARP member many years ago and this 29 year old Haitain got 5 leches out of me one night and 4 the other nights. Last night I was woken up at 3:30 in the morning to an unsolicited blow job. This one is a Nympho and I am in Heaven. She's somewhat shy in public, speaks French Creole, Spanish, and English like a lot of the Haitains. I communicate with her primarily in Spanish and we have good physical "Quimica" chemistry together.
Besides hitting the waves at Playa Encuentro and Sosua Bay I plan on going to Santiago on Monday for a day with one of my DC girls before having my Haitain Nympho back over.Sorry to hear about the assholes at the hotel.
I always wondered what happens in those situations, as I know a lot of party type guys who go down to the islands. I always tell them I would hate to ever get stuck in the same hotel as you.
5 Leches! Wow that's wasssssuppp!
Baileys! I loved that place. Close enough to people / chica watch, but not in the main strip, ice cold beers, good food!
Mr Enternational
06-05-14, 23:03
I think some wise sage posted a list of these chica stories some time ago, and they do all use the same shit.
But, as you say, you have to be careful tarring them all with the same brush if the relationship is otherwise OK.
These things happen with regularity down there, so it's natural for the chicas to exploit them.And as always your reaponse should be, "And what the fuck does THAT have to do with me?
LOL. Doesn't electricity get shutoff on the regular in the DR anyway? I guess she aint lying about her electricity, huh?Not having electricity for several hours a day is part of daily life in alot of areas in the the D.R. and the main reason for not having electricity is, that alot of dominicans simply do not pay for electricity in the first place.
RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.
RULE 2: Everything a puta does is for money, gifts or to support her puta lifestyle.
RULE 3: A puta never is swayed by the man, but always by his money.
RULE 4: No amount of money or gifts is enough to keep the interest of a puta more than 10 minutes after the gift or money is given.
RULE 5: Any money sent to the family allows the puta to support her lifestyle and is a payoff to her mother or aunt to watch her kid while she parties.
RULE 6: Never open your heart to a puta no matter why when, where or for how long.
RULE 7: A puta will never open her heart to a Gringo no matter why when, where or for how long.
RULE 8: Since a puta wants the most money possible she will lie as much as possible.
RULE 9: Since she will lie as much as possible she will rather die before telling the whole truth or any fraction thereof, unless she makes a mistake.
RULE 10: It never ever matters what a puta says. Only to the extent it's amusing.
RULE 11: It only matters how well a PUTA fucks, how offen she fucks and how convincing she is that she's having a great time doing it.
RULE 12: Never WU a puta.
RULE 13: Never give a puta a gift unless it's in exchange for a fuck. In no case give the money or gift before fucking.
RULE 14: Never fuck the same puta more than once if possible unles you want to be hit up for bucks mano a mano every time you see her face.
RULE 15: Since you don't want to see the puta face to face every time you take a walk, don't fuck regular street putas in Sosua.
RULE 16: If you want to have a perfect exuse to dump a puta if you need to fuck her more than once, tell her that you will dump her immediatley if she ever lies to you even just a little (cause if she will lie for a little she will lie for alot).
RULE 17: If a puta says she loves you, DUMP HER cause she's lying! Unless she fucks very well and you don't mind hearing lies every time you fuck her. (A normal puta will tell you she loves you either in bed or in text message within a very short time.).
RULE 18: Make sure you find out 2 very important things: Chulo? Age? And always find out before walking anywhere with her.
RULE 19: Keep all your stuff locked no matter when or for how long.
RULE 20: Watch that cellphone!
RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.
RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.
RULE 2: Everything a puta does is for money, gifts or to support her puta lifestyle.
RULE 3: A puta never is swayed by the man, but always by his money.
RULE 4: No amount of money or gifts is enough to keep the interest of a puta more than 10 minutes after the gift or money is given.
RULE 5: Any money sent to the family allows the puta to support her lifestyle and is a payoff to her mother or aunt to watch her kid while she parties.
RULE 6: Never open your heart to a puta no matter why when, where or for how long.
RULE 7: A puta will never open her heart to a Gringo no matter why when, where or for how long.
RULE 8: Since a puta wants the most money possible she will lie as much as possible.
RULE 9: Since she will lie as much as possible she will rather die before telling the whole truth or any fraction thereof, unless she makes a mistake.
RULE 10: It never ever matters what a puta says. Only to the extent it's amusing.
RULE 11: It only matters how well a PUTA fucks, how offen she fucks and how convincing she is that she's having a great time doing it.
RULE 12: Never WU a puta.
RULE 13: Never give a puta a gift unless it's in exchange for a fuck. In no case give the money or gift before fucking.
RULE 14: Never fuck the same puta more than once if possible unles you want to be hit up for bucks mano a mano every time you see her face.
RULE 15: Since you don't want to see the puta face to face every time you take a walk, don't fuck regular street putas in Sosua.
RULE 16: If you want to have a perfect exuse to dump a puta if you need to fuck her more than once, tell her that you will dump her immediatley if she ever lies to you even just a little (cause if she will lie for a little she will lie for alot).
RULE 17: If a puta says she loves you, DUMP HER cause she's lying! Unless she fucks very well and you don't mind hearing lies every time you fuck her. (A normal puta will tell you she loves you either in bed or in text message within a very short time.).
RULE 18: Make sure you find out 2 very important things: Chulo? Age? And always find out before walking anywhere with her.
RULE 19: Keep all your stuff locked no matter when or for how long.
RULE 20: Watch that cellphone!
RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.What does Chulo mean, or did you mean to say Culo?
I've had 3 real novias in DR non were putas and I am a big fat Gringo. 1 was a hairdresser, I met her walking through a gas staion while I was buying gas she went to get lunch.
She never asked me for money. Once, I gave her some money because she had her purse stolen with her money and cell phone. This happened right in front of me, motorcycle buy swiped it and took off. I bought her a new pocket book and a some money less than 2 k if I recall correctly. I would meet her after work for a meal and some cabana time and then drive her to her sister. She bought me a birthday present, she would buy me drinks or little snacks, the whole salon would treat me like a king when I visited. I would get hair cuts, with a wash etc. Very enjoyable girl. A little crazy but very nice.
Never a gold digger. In fact she broke up with me and never got more that a paid meal from me. Normal date expenditures.
Girl friend #2 was a client of above girlfriend. I should have stayed with her, her dad owns a hotel (cabana) and car dealership. She asked to borrow 20 k once after going out for a while. I reluctantly gave it to her knowing I was never going to see it again. But after several months of really good time I figured what the heck, I she did not pay me back I would dump her and have learned a lesson in the process. She payed me back ahead of time without me even asking for it. I made an arrangement with her dad to buy a used car from him. I got it for 17 k pesos less than the listed value you pay a tax on a car when doing the paperwork and the tax office has a table with the value of the car, you pay a % of the greater value. He could of tried to rip me off instead he gave me a deal. I am still amigos con derechas with her. She just got married to a foreigner from spain and she is leaving this month but still wants a last fling with me. I would take her out and pay for normal date expenditures, no cabana needed as I would star for free at her dads place. The most expensive gift I got her was a dog, 3 k.
Last one, I've been with her for over 4 years now, she is in the university now which I pay for but I'm wifed up with her. She minds my money and doesn't go crazy. As for her family, I don't give money to anyone. I made an investment in her father on a clothing business which he pays me part of the profits regularly. So far, I've made my money back and then some. I see about 5 k every month from this business.
So I've gotten lucky 3 times so far.
I have a long list of situations like this, not to say dominicans haven't scammed me or tried. That has happened, but truly never with a working girl down here.
My dad was cop and he thought everyone was a bad person, I told him since you deal with bad people all of the time you get that opinion of most people.
So the girls you deal with are probably hard core they have gotten hardened to their clients. Your comments are true of a small percentage of working girls in DR. Most working girls wouldn't classify themselves as Putas.
Anyway only my opinion, feel free to rip into my thoughts.
RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.
RULE 2: Everything a puta does is for money, gifts or to support her puta lifestyle.
RULE 3: A puta never is swayed by the man, but always by his money.
RULE 4: No amount of money or gifts is enough to keep the interest of a puta more than 10 minutes after the gift or money is given.
RULE 5: Any money sent to the family allows the puta to support her lifestyle and is a payoff to her mother or aunt to watch her kid while she parties.
RULE 6: Never open your heart to a puta no matter why when, where or for how long.
RULE 7: A puta will never open her heart to a Gringo no matter why when, where or for how long.
RULE 8: Since a puta wants the most money possible she will lie as much as possible.
RULE 9: Since she will lie as much as possible she will rather die before telling the whole truth or any fraction thereof, unless she makes a mistake.
RULE 10: It never ever matters what a puta says. Only to the extent it's amusing.
RULE 11: It only matters how well a PUTA fucks, how offen she fucks and how convincing she is that she's having a great time doing it.
RULE 12: Never WU a puta.
RULE 13: Never give a puta a gift unless it's in exchange for a fuck. In no case give the money or gift before fucking.
RULE 14: Never fuck the same puta more than once if possible unles you want to be hit up for bucks mano a mano every time you see her face.
RULE 15: Since you don't want to see the puta face to face every time you take a walk, don't fuck regular street putas in Sosua.
RULE 16: If you want to have a perfect exuse to dump a puta if you need to fuck her more than once, tell her that you will dump her immediatley if she ever lies to you even just a little (cause if she will lie for a little she will lie for alot).
RULE 17: If a puta says she loves you, DUMP HER cause she's lying! Unless she fucks very well and you don't mind hearing lies every time you fuck her. (A normal puta will tell you she loves you either in bed or in text message within a very short time.).
RULE 18: Make sure you find out 2 very important things: Chulo? Age? And always find out before walking anywhere with her.
RULE 19: Keep all your stuff locked no matter when or for how long.
RULE 20: Watch that cellphone!
RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.
RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.
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RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.A comprehensive list, to be sure, Orgamsmico.
The great thing is, if you understand those rules, you'll never be disappointed in Sosua.
Which is more than you can say about a lot of our N.American wives and girlfriends, who we tend to trust and support blindly.
In the long run Sosua chicas are much cheaper too.
And way more fun!
And as always your reaponse should be, "And what the fuck does THAT have to do with me?I fell off my chair laughing at that one.
Trouble is it doesn't translate well into Spanish, so the chica will not see the humor in it.
My response to the sob stories is just a simple sigh, "Esta la vie!
I've had 3 real novias in DR non were putas and I am a big fat Gringo. 1 was a hairdresser, I met her walking through a gas staion while I was buying gas she went to get lunch.
She never asked me for money. Once, I gave her some money because she had her purse stolen with her money and cell phone. This happened right in front of me, motorcycle buy swiped it and took off. I bought her a new pocket book and a some money less than 2 k if I recall correctly. I would meet her after work for a meal and some cabana time and then drive her to her sister. She bought me a birthday present, she would buy me drinks or little snacks, the whole salon would treat me like a king when I visited. I would get hair cuts, with a wash etc. Very enjoyable girl. A little crazy but very nice.
Never a gold digger. In fact she broke up with me and never got more that a paid meal from me. Normal date expenditures.
Girl friend #2 was a client of above girlfriend. I should have stayed with her, her dad owns a hotel (cabana) and car dealership. She asked to borrow 20 k once after going out for a while. I reluctantly gave it to her knowing I was never going to see it again. But after several months of really good time I figured what the heck, I she did not pay me back I would dump her and have learned a lesson in the process. She payed me back ahead of time without me even asking for it. I made an arrangement with her dad to buy a used car from him. I got it for 17 k pesos less than the listed value you pay a tax on a car when doing the paperwork and the tax office has a table with the value of the car, you pay a % of the greater value. He could of tried to rip me off instead he gave me a deal. I am still amigos con derechas with her. She just got married to a foreigner from spain and she is leaving this month but still wants a last fling with me. I would take her out and pay for normal date expenditures, no cabana needed as I would star for free at her dads place. The most expensive gift I got her was a dog, 3 k.
Last one, I've been with her for over 4 years now, she is in the university now which I pay for but I'm wifed up with her. She minds my money and doesn't go crazy. As for her family, I don't give money to anyone. I made an investment in her father on a clothing business which he pays me part of the profits regularly. So far, I've made my money back and then some. I see about 5 k every month from this business.
So I've gotten lucky 3 times so far.
I have a long list of situations like this, not to say dominicans haven't scammed me or tried. That has happened, but truly never with a working girl down here.
My dad was cop and he thought everyone was a bad person, I told him since you deal with bad people all of the time you get that opinion of most people.
So the girls you deal with are probably hard core they have gotten hardened to their clients. Your comments are true of a small percentage of working girls in DR. Most working girls wouldn't classify themselves as Putas.
Anyway only my opinion, feel free to rip into my thoughts.The girls you've met are obviously not the average Sosua chica, who lives from trick to trick, in a very competitive business, with no other means of support.
These latter comprise most of the young women you'll meet in Sosua, rather than the small percentage you imply.
Sosua is, after all, one big brothel.
A comprehensive list, to be sure, Orgamsmico.
The great thing is, if you understand those rules, you'll never be disappointed in Sosua.
Which is more than you can say about a lot of our N.American wives and girlfriends, who we tend to trust and support blindly.
In the long run Sosua chicas are much cheaper too.
And way more fun!I can't imagine any man that has discovered this hobby putting up with western female bullshit. That's why I stay on the road.
Thinking of changing my handle to PoppaRollingStone.
Mr Enternational
06-06-14, 06:21
I can't imagine any man that has discovered this hobby putting up with western female bullshit. That's why I stay on the road.
Thinking of changing my handle to PoppaRollingStone.So you assert that it is better to put up with foreign female bullshit? All women are foing to give you bs. It's just a matter of what kind you are willing to put up with.
So you assert that it is better to put up with foreign female bullshit? All women are foing to give you bs. It's just a matter of what kind you are willing to put up with.The key is you're able to detach and hop on a plane and go to another life. In America the BS is there for everyday life and sometimes its not so easy to detach. I choose to not even fuck with chics in the States because its on the home turf and it usually turns into a competition for control of the relationship.
When I travel I'm just gone. Try to be gone with a girl in the States and the drama will start. When women in the States lose the upper hand then you have girls wanting payback. If its them bad mouthing you or fucking with your prized possessions.
I've been with a Thai girl for six years that won't go away because she doesn't want me being happy without her. So her goal is to be a pest and spoil my happiness. She drives by my place unannounced, calls and hangs up, and asks my neighbors of I have girls there. Guys traveling don't have this kind of BS to deal with, you just hop on a plane and its over. So I agree with the poster that says its better to travel and have fun then detach.
What does Chulo mean, or did you mean to say Culo?Chulo means pimp, who could be her real dominican boyfriend, primo.....
Charles Pooter
06-06-14, 13:59
Chulo means pimp, who could be her real dominican boyfriend, primo.....Really, it does not mean "pimp". It means something like "darling" or "sweetheart". I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. When adults admire (or politely pretend to admire) their friends toddlers and babies in their pushchairs they will call them "chulo".
But the fact that gringos think it means "pimp" is a reflection on the nature of prostitution in the DR. Full-time pimping is not the norm here, although it does exist. Putas are nearly all self-employed. If they pass some or all of the money on to a man, it will usually be to their own boyfriend, or to a family member, to whom they are emotionally attached, which is why they are called "chulos" (their "sweethearts").
I fell off my chair laughing at that one.
Trouble is it doesn't translate well into Spanish, so the chica will not see the humor in it.
My response to the sob stories is just a simple sigh, "Esta la vie!What makes you think anyone will understand a mixture of Spanish, French, Italian, and Creole?
If you want to say it in Haitian Creole, it would be "Sa se lavi", but if you want to say it in Spanish something like "asi es la vida" would get the job done better and people would understand you.
So I've gotten lucky 3 times so far.
I have a long list of situations like this, not to say dominicans haven't scammed me or tried. That has happened, but truly never with a working girl down here.
So the girls you deal with are probably hard core they have gotten hardened to their clients. Your comments are true of a small percentage of working girls in DR. Most working girls wouldn't classify themselves as Putas.
Anyway only my opinion, feel free to rip into my thoughts.Nice to here about continued on going happiness in the DR.
Tempoecorto
06-06-14, 14:19
If you want to say it in Haitian Creole, it would be "Sa se lavi",....So, "Ca, see'est la vie" is transformed into "Sa se lavi" and it is now creole? Que chulo! How cool!
Member #4351
06-06-14, 17:16
Since I always have good luck on FC, I decided to join DC before my upcoming Sosua trip. I guess I'm just spoiled with the Filipinas because despite being able to read and write Spanish my results on DC could best be described as "crashed and burned". Looks like I'll have to pretty much settle for Rumba or hotel "skanks" as one forum member described them.
Really, it does not mean "pimp". It means something like "darling" or "sweetheart". I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. When adults admire (or politely pretend to admire) their friends toddlers and babies in their pushchairs they will call them "chulo".
But the fact that gringos think it means "pimp" is a reflection on the nature of prostitution in the DR. Full-time pimping is not the norm here, although it does exist. Putas are nearly all self-employed. If they pass some or all of the money on to a man, it will usually be to their own boyfriend, or to a family member, to whom they are emotionally attached, which is why they are called "chulos" (their "sweethearts").Chulo can be used both as an adjective or a noun so both of you a correct.
Since I always have good luck on FC, I decided to join DC before my upcoming Sosua trip. I guess I'm just spoiled with the Filipinas because despite being able to read and write Spanish my results on DC could best be described as "crashed and burned". Looks like I'll have to pretty much settle for Rumba or hotel "skanks" as one forum member described them.If you can read and write Spanish you should have no problem on the DC Site unless your old like me and trying to hook-up with the 18-21 year old's who may be more reluctant to meet you. Try going on-line and chatting with a few. I have had great luck with the ones between 25 and 29. If however your into sport fucking, don't waste your time on the DC Site. The "skanks" as I refer to them that pursue the Hotels and the girls on the Strip are perfect for short time sessions and can be good for long time sessions if you hit it off with them.
Really, it does not mean "pimp". It means something like "darling" or "sweetheart". I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. When adults admire (or politely pretend to admire) their friends toddlers and babies in their pushchairs they will call them "chulo".
.I thought chulo had two meanings. An adjective and a Noun.
1) You use for children and babies. Kinda of like looking at a baby and saying "She is so cute or precious! (Adjective).
2) For a pimp or hustler. If you call a man a chulo, your not calling them cute. (Noun).
I thought chulo had two meanings. An adjective and a Noun.
1) You use for children and babies. Kinda of like looking at a baby and saying "She is so cute or precious! (Adjective).
2) For a pimp or hustler. If you call a man a chulo, your not calling them cute. (Noun).You are 100% correct it used as an an adjective and a noun.
What makes you think anyone will understand a mixture of Spanish, French, Italian, and Creole?
If you want to say it in Haitian Creole, it would be "Sa se lavi", but if you want to say it in Spanish something like "asi es la vida" would get the job done better and people would understand you.She understands perfectly. Some words are global now. They all listen to the same songs.
Ciao, baby.
I can't imagine any man that has discovered this hobby putting up with western female bullshit. That's why I stay on the road.
Thinking of changing my handle to PoppaRollingStone.I think I understand what you are saying. You are saying having this hobby is a welcome relief and / or alternative to dealing with the type of female bullshit that is common with western women. So you travel frequently (stay on the road) to destinations where you can enjoy this hobby.
Ad-libbing here, if you encounter BS from foreign women, you are willing to take those risks. Foreign women are less likely to get half of your pension, get you kicked out of a house you are paying for, take your kids from you, get a portion of your 401 k,and more. The dating scene with western women has men at a disadvantage in terms of what it takes to get to the ultimate goal, which is to get laid.
Using the DR for example, in this hobby, guys are getting laid for less money with less hassle within less time than they would back home with their western women. Having said that, Mr E is also correct when he states "It's just a matter of what kind you are willing to put up with. ".
Most guys enjoying this hobby have discovered personally they would rather enjoy this hobby and tolerate the kind of BS they have experienced, than be some dude who got railroaded in a divorce through dealing with western women. Or some dude still playing the dating mating game of courtship and getting very little for his efforts. Moreover, merely listening to or exposing oneself to women trying to run game but not really getting anywhere, I dont consider that putting up with BS. Nobody can run from BS, or risk or gambling. It's everywhere. Were taking risks even when we arent aware we are doing it. The idea is to keep BS in it's place or at least be aware of it, without it becoming a burden or an imposition on your life or peace of mind. With anything there may be setbacks or disapointments. Maybe some regrets. But what was the cost? Did you lose your house,pension? Or did you lose 6k pesos,a cell phone,your tablet,some jewelry,cologne? Practicing prostitution with the consent of law enforcement right in front of you??? I'd say dealing with foreign women's BS in comparison to western women, is worth the risk.
BTW one of my other regulars from San Pedro who has been talking about coming for my next trip just informed me that she needs to go to the dentist because her teeth hurt. This info came from me simply asking "Como esta". They love when you ask lead in questions so they can start telling you about some problem.
Now I suppose if I were to agree for her to come, she will try to get me to give her money for the dentist. The per diem rate for her "job" in San Pedro, and whatever I would consider giving her upon her departure. She doesn't know this, but I have no interest in allowing her to come, subjecting myself to a bunch of expenses. That doesn't even include what I would have to pay to feed her, and whatever she tries to buy from the supermercado.
On the flip side. In the states, I'm sure I paid more when dealing with a chick there and didn't get nearly the same amount of enjoyment as I would with a chica from the DR. It's just that ,I know I can get a better deal close to my spot ( in the DR ) without depending on someone to come from San Pedro ( with a laundry list of expenses.) The expenses I know about, and the ones I will find out about after being with her for a few days.
Charles Pooter
06-06-14, 22:54
You use {chulo} for children and babies. Kinda of like looking at a baby and saying "She is so cute or precious!"Exactly so.
For a pimp or hustler. If you call a man a chulo, your not calling them cute.
I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. So all the veterinarians, "old money" landowners, and Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, in our apartment block are really hustling putas on the side? I don't think so!
Obviously it depends on the context. If a puta's "chulo" is accepting money from her activities then you could call him a pimp. But if it was her mother accepting the money, as in a widely reported case last week, it doesn't mean that "madre" means "pimp".
And what about someone like Peter at Passions? He was a full-time pimp, but he was only a "chulo" to his wife. I have never heard him referred to as a "chulo" by anyone else.
I bet it is used a hundred times with my meaning for every once with yours.
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My next rant will be directed at those who think "chica" means "prostitute". If you look back over the posts there have been quite a few.
Just arrived in Sosua check in hotel europe. Got my normal room $35.00. Hotels seems packed. There are a lot of dime pieces coming in and out of the front door. A lot of men seem to be happy they look as if they have been intoxicated from the fountain. I just hit surfer up hopefully I can catch up with him. I wonder what the night has in store for me.
Mr Enternational
06-06-14, 23:14
9 times out of 10 I get this bs from American women.
SavePros321
06-06-14, 23:18
if you encounter BS from foreign women, you are willing to take those risks. Foreign women are less likely to get half of your pension, get you kicked out of a house you are paying for, take your kids from you, get a portion of your 401 k,and more. The dating scene with western women has men at a disadvantage in terms of what it takes to get to the ultimate goal, which is to get laid.
Post of the year. Amen!
The girls you've met are obviously not the average Sosua chica, who lives from trick to trick, in a very competitive business, with no other means of support.
These latter comprise most of the young women you'll meet in Sosua, rather than the small percentage you imply.
Sosua is, after all, one big brothel.Santo Domingo is much bigger that Sosua, I've found that the dregs of society down here are near the tourist areas (that's where the money is). The small percentage of hard care women are in these places. The rest of the women are more towards the normal side (still easy by American standards) but less money grubbers. BTW, those of you who refer to Western women, DR is in the Western Hemisphere.
If your comment were along the lines that most women in Sosua that date gringos are putas, I would agree with that statement.
9 times out of 10 I get this bs from American women.That is classic. At this point I only need the states for money (I guess I'm Dominican). When I go back I can't even bring myself to get a hooker. Anything decent is 100+ per hour, I can get 4 girls for that price down here. If you try and date a regular girl you need to put in more effort and a lot more money than that.
Much easier down here, even with regular girls. The longest I've waited down here was the 3rd date and I was in.
SavePros321
06-06-14, 23:31
9 times out of 10 I get this bs from American women.Last date with an AW (American Woman) I went on was in April. It was a dinner date and the bill came out to damn near $70 dollars. When the check came she looked at me all starry-eyed like "you know the deal. " I went ahead and paid the entire bill and chalked it up to the game, plus I had no intention of calling her after that date (it was a case of "you looked hotter on the internet".
Funny thing was how during the date she talked about how on some of her previous dates with other guys the bill would come out to around $300-$400 dollars.
And bravo to you Mr. E! "Old Fashioned" my ass, LOL. I love your responses to her.
She spelled first "fist", btw.
Found this earlier today. Probably should post it in the Opinions American Women thread. The comments section of the article is the best part:
8 reasons why New York women cant get a husband
http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/princeton-mom-heres-why-new-york-women-cant-get-a-husband/
I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?
Do you guys really wonder why all these girls go to the clinic instead of a public hospital. Take a look
Just arrived in Sosua check in hotel europe. Got my normal room $35.00. Hotels seems packed. There are a lot of dime pieces coming in and out of the front door. A lot of men seem to be happy they look as if they have been intoxicated from the fountain. I just hit surfer up hopefully I can catch up with him. I wonder what the night has in store for me.I know what I have in store for me tonight!
Live in the belly of the beast everything looks like a live night. I'm nice cool breeze no sign of rain and just enuff clouds to keep the air temperature down. I see a few regulars at a lot of new faces. The ratio at this time is about three females to one guy. The police are roaming the streets in force. I'm sure that once they leave things will be live and kicking hard.
Santo Domingo is much bigger that Sosua, I've found that the dregs of society down here are near the tourist areas (that's where the money is). The small percentage of hard care women are in these places. The rest of the women are more towards the normal side (still easy by American standards) but less money grubbers. BTW, those of you who refer to Western women, DR is in the Western Hemisphere.
If your comment were along the lines that most women in Sosua that date gringos are putas, I would agree with that statement.We're on the same page. I was just pointing out that your happy experiences with relatively upscale chicas is not shared by 95% of mongers on this board who gravitate to the tourist areas like bees around honey.
BTW, those of you who refer to Western women, DR is in the Western Hemisphere.
If your comment were along the lines that most women in Sosua that date gringos are putas, I would agree with that statement.Speaking for myself, my reference to WW was referring to women I'm familiar with the most. Those from the united states. So every reference I made to WW, just substitute that reference to mean North American Women or what's typically found in the United States or Canada. Where similar issues apply in the world, just include those women from those areas too. That should cover North, East South and West.
Do you guys really wonder why all these girls go to the clinic instead of a public hospital. Take a lookNo it hadn't occured to me. I didn't know if they made a distinction, or not. I thought many of them use those terms (clinic / hospital) interchangeably. However that picture looks pretty bad. Is that supposed to be a picture within a public hospital? See if you were a chica sending me that picture, my bullshit meter would be on alert. Because I would be thinking she was trying to get me to react to that photo for a particular reason. BTW, how did YOU get that photo?
Tempoecorto
06-07-14, 01:07
As usual, this theme has recycled back into a conversation piece blaming all on the American women. So here is a real life example:
My brother who is a doctor, married a woman who is a doctor as well. They split after a child was born and all my brother paid, after the ex wife moved to another state is child support. No more no less. The amount a man has to pay is dependent on the woman's earnings. So hush. Marry up. If you are high school, marry a college girl. I. e. , a woman above your social and economic stature (if she would have you that is) -and stop whining about women taking all. What BS!
Last date with an AW (American Woman) I went on was in April. It was a dinner date and the bill came out to damn near $70 dollars. When the check came she looked at me all starry-eyed like "you know the deal. " I went ahead and paid the entire bill and chalked it up to the game, plus I had no intention of calling her after that date (it was a case of "you looked hotter on the internet".
Funny thing was how during the date she talked about how on some of her previous dates with other guys the bill would come out to around $300-$400 dollars.
And bravo to you Mr. E! "Old Fashioned" my ass, LOL. I love your responses to her.
She spelled first "fist", btw.
Found this earlier today. Probably should post it in the Opinions American Women thread. The comments section of the article is the best part:
8 reasons why New York women cant get a husband
http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/princeton-mom-heres-why-new-york-women-cant-get-a-husband/IMO internet dating in the states is probably the worst thing a guy can do. Even worse is agreeing and meeting a woman for the 1st time at a restaurant. Now, I'll be the 1st to admit. Many of my 1st time meetings were at restaurants. I realize now, that that was not really a good idea. Back then I rationalized it by thinking, dining out is something I like, so why not? I justified my expenditures with putas in the DR in the very beginning as well (their poor etc) , I justified my meeting my internet babes from the states at restaurants (I love going out to eat with a companion).
The only dating sites I think I stand a better chance are the foreign ones. Like Dominican Cupid and the like. A close female friend gave me some advice years ago. She also used dating websites in the states to find men (Black People Meet). She said, don't put too much energy in pursuing women on a dating website. She said it is much better to choose the women that choose you. The ones that express interest in you 1st. That way it is more likely she may be really interested. If you chase the women that are likely in demand by a bunch of other hungry men on the dating website, you are more likely to be one of those that gets juggled in the rotation of other men waiting their turn to take her out, spend money and end up with a woman with the same expectations depicted in Mr E's example. Now a guy may choose to follow her formula to see where it may lead to, but he will quickly find out she has said and is prepared to say that to a dozen more men. She don't care if it doesn't lead to anything serious. She is enjoying guys trying to run her obstacle course to get to her juice box.
Mr Enternational
06-07-14, 03:19
As well as enjoying the free meals she can get from going out with a different guy everyday of the week.
When I go back I can't even bring myself to get a hooker. Anything decent is 100+ per hourUSA can be very expensive for putang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnQlfp99vk.
No it hadn't occured to me. I didn't know if they made a distinction, or not. I thought many of them use those terms (clinic / hospital) interchangeably. However that picture looks pretty bad. Is that supposed to be a picture within a public hospital? See if you were a chica sending me that picture, my bullshit meter would be on alert. Because I would be thinking she was trying to get me to react to that photo for a particular reason. BTW, how did YOU get that photo?Yes this is a picture of a public hospital in Santo Domingo, I know a girl who is working there.
In the the. Are. Anything is possible I know a doctor here in San Christobal who I sometimes visit while he is working in the emergency room without any problems, even there sometimes they do stitches without gloves.
As usual, this theme has recycled back into a conversation piece blaming all on the American women. So here is a real life example:
My brother who is a doctor, married a woman who is a doctor as well. They split after a child was born and all my brother paid, after the ex wife moved to another state is child support. No more no less. The amount a man has to pay is dependent on the woman's earnings. So hush. Marry up. If you are high school, marry a college girl. I. e. , a woman above your social and economic stature (if she would have you that is) -and stop whining about women taking all. What BS!But thanks for the information to help the case. Try to think this thing through. Your brother married a doctor. But for some reason him marrying a doctor didn't stop him from having to deal with some BS causing them to split up. It could very well mean he realized he married the wrong woman, or perhaps him not getting something in the relationship.
Or it could be some area about him that concerned her. Either way. Some good marrying a doctor did for his ass. He ended up splitting up right after a child was born. And now he's divorced. Now he has to deal with the distance apart from the child, and how that may impact on his relationship with the child. Plus, why did she get primary custody of the child anyway? And the only thing you come with is the cost of him paying child support? The fact that a mans obligation to pay is dependent upon the womans earnings is a clear example of why nobody should be signing up for some entity to be dictating how much you should be paying.
Check this out. They are both doctors, why did she get the child? If she lost her job, how much would he have to pay her then? Have you thought about this? If he lost his job how much would he have to pay her even if she was still working? Would his obligation to pay be reduced? He has to get permission from some court to have child support reduced? Here's something else you may not have thought of; Did he have proof from the very beginning that the child was even his? In most instances, if a wife has a child, the husband is presumed to be the father. In enough instances, some men still had to pay child support for a child that their wives had with another man. So a man can be totally clueless about the paternity of a child until something comes up. Since you have not considered any of this, and only concerned about child support payments, and erroneously concluding this is about ALL american women, perhaps you should hush and just stay out of grown folks conversation.
You can't even use yourself as an example of somebody who married up and is still happlily married. You had to use your brother as an example? A poor example at that! SMH.
Manizales911
06-07-14, 16:24
The amount a man has to pay is dependent on the woman's earnings.This is totally erroneous. There are several factors that play into it and some are completely up to the judge. For instance, behavior by the individual parties. If your brother was a cheating, drug taking loser and had money the judge would have cleaned him out. Also, the laws pertaining to divorce vary tremendously from state to state, some states split all assets down the middle regardless.
This is totally erroneous. There are several factors that play into it and some are completely up to the judge. For instance, behavior by the individual parties. If your brother was a cheating, drug taking loser and had money the judge would have cleaned him out. Also, the laws pertaining to divorce vary tremendously from state to state, some states split all assets down the middle regardless.All 50 states have had no fault divorce laws since about 1985, though possibly there is some difference in individual states in the way in which the law is carried out. However it unlikely that there are many places where "it is completely up to the judge."
Many states provide an informal mediation service that decides the nuts and bolts of how property will be divided. If you can reach an agreement with the other party, this can also be enacted without the details of the settlement being approved by the court.
In most states property that belonged to one of the individuals is not considered part of the marital estate, for example:
Any property that was owned by either spouse prior to the marriage;.
An inheritance received by the husband or wife (either before or after the marriage);.
A gift received by the husband or wife from a third party (your mother gave you her diamond ring);.
Payment received for pain and suffering portion in a personal injury judgment.
However all assets that were accumulated during the course of the marriage are considered to be joint property so this does favor the non working or lower paid wife over her more affluent husband, but not so much the higher paid wife.
California is a joint property state where the person who has considerable assets should be very careful about marrying a person who is less wealthy without an iron clad prenuptial agreement. This is why celebrity show-biz marriages there get into the news. Comedian John Cleese seems to have gotten badly shafted in a California divorce, having to continue to tour into his seventies to pay for the lavish lifestyle of an ex-wife he married in California.
British law also favors wives, however famous divorced men like Paul McCartney and Prince Charles have gotten off with most of their fortunes intact.
Just as a side note: If a female physician lost her job (assuming she was not self employed) it is unlikely that she would not be able to get another job at a similar level unless she had become disabled or something like that.
Just arrived in Sosua check in hotel europe. Got my normal room $35.00. Hotels seems packed. There are a lot of dime pieces coming in and out of the front door. A lot of men seem to be happy they look as if they have been intoxicated from the fountain. I just hit surfer up hopefully I can catch up with him. I wonder what the night has in store for me.Is 35 $ the normal rate they were trying to charge me 40 or 45.
All the rooms there are basicly the same? All have kitchenettes with stove and microwave?
Sosua last night was in his normal form. The women came out to represent. Their need to pay their monthly rent. Whom ever came up with the idea of closing of the streetis alright with me. It gives you more room instead of being stuffed in the club. Rumba loses money because not so many people are in the club now they just walked back and forth in the open space. My flavor for the night mature and sexy. She stayed all night and accepted whatever I gave her. The sex wasn't as well as being with a younger thoroughbred. But for 2000 pesos Who am I to complain.
Sosua last night was in his normal form. The women came out to represent. Their need to pay their monthly rent. Whom ever came up with the idea of closing of the streetis alright with me. It gives you more room instead of being stuffed in the club. Rumba loses money because not so many people are in the club now they just walked back and forth in the open space. My flavor for the night mature and sexy. She stayed all night and accepted whatever I gave her. The sex wasn't as well as being with a younger thoroughbred. But for 2000 pesos Who am I to complain.So this one was "maduro" (mature) but not a thoroughbred. Were you with somebody's grandmother again last night.
Manizales911
06-07-14, 20:59
All 50 states have had no fault divorce laws since about 1985, though possibly there is some difference in individual states in the way in which the law is carried out. However it unlikely that there are many places where "it is completely up to the judge." Frannie, are you a lawyer? I was in divorce court on Thursday. I have a pre-nup and a good portion of my assets were gifted. Guess what? Her lawyer is fighting tooth and nail to make it a 50-50 split. My attorney told me at the end of the day"it's up to the judge".
Had my Haitain "Nympho" wife over for the third night in a row and she got 5 leches out of me between 10 PM and Noon today. I think I need to get my testerone levels checked as I might need treatment for high T. Went down to the beach and there were lots of chicas on the crawl looking for their next victims. Took a kayak out for an hour and got a good upper body workout in Sosua Bay. The water was very nice and clear. Upon returning from the beach I ran into the Chiccaron vendor and bought 50 pesos worth of pork meat with skin on it (Carnitas in Mexico) which was very tasty which I topped off with some Good and Plenty and Hot Tamale candy. I need to replenish my leche supply as I have a commitment tomorrow with one of my other wives. Planning on taking her to Santiago on Monday to spend the night and go to the movies. Tomorrow morning I plan on hitting the waves at Playa Encuentro before having the wife come. Just another day in paradise here.
Last date with an AW (American Woman) I went on was in April. It was a dinner date and the bill came out to damn near $70 dollars. When the check came she looked at me all starry-eyed like "you know the deal. " I went ahead and paid the entire bill and chalked it up to the game, plus I had no intention of calling her after that date (it was a case of "you looked hotter on the internet".
Funny thing was how during the date she talked about how on some of her previous dates with other guys the bill would come out to around $300-$400 dollars.
And bravo to you Mr. E! "Old Fashioned" my ass, LOL. I love your responses to her.
She spelled first "fist", btw.
Found this earlier today. Probably should post it in the Opinions American Women thread. The comments section of the article is the best part:
8 reasons why New York women cant get a husband
http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/princeton-mom-heres-why-new-york-women-cant-get-a-husband/The look "you know the deal" used to mean that she had to pony up if she ordered from the fuck side of the menu. A fair exchange was no highway robbery. These barter rules used to be well understood.
Frannie, are you a lawyer? I was in divorce court on Thursday. I have a pre-nup and a good portion of my assets were gifted. Guess what? Her lawyer is fighting tooth and nail to make it a 50-50 split. My attorney told me at the end of the day"it's up to the judge".If your in California and you can trace the assets and did not comingle them while married than they should remain yours. As an example if you owned a house coming into the marriage and your ex contributed to making the payments while married you may have a tough time with that unless you can trace everything. I'm not a lawyer but spent $ 200 k getting a divorce in California and had to retain a forensic accountant and a pension attorney to get the assets I brought into the marriage and gifts I received over the years. Fortunately I didn't have to pay any child support or alimony. Based on what your lawyer said to you which doesn't sound right if you have a pre-nup, I strongly suggest you have another attorney take a look at your case. Good luck as I can relate to what you are going to be going thru.
So this one was "maduro" (mature) but not a thoroughbred. Were you with somebody's grandmother again last night.Hey Surfer the chica you pointed out on the strip is looking for you. He says he is ready now.
Hey Surfer the chica you pointed out on the strip is looking for you. He says he is ready now.I had no idea that Chica had a dick, thanks for the heads up!
Hey Surfer the chica you pointed out on the strip is looking for you. He says he is ready now.Did you get his contact information?;)
Tempoecorto
06-08-14, 03:15
This is totally erroneous. There are several factors that play into it and some are completely up to the judge. For instance, behavior by the individual parties. If your brother was a cheating, drug taking loser and had money the judge would have cleaned him out. Also, the laws pertaining to divorce vary tremendously from state to state, some states split all assets down the middle regardless.I am sure there are many factors that play into it but amicable divorce is a possibility. My brother was a resident of NY when this happened but the point I was making still stands: if the wife does not have a profession to enable her to make the money she needs to sustain a lifestyle she was used to while married, things will go south for the richer party. I have no idea of what happens to drug dealers or other hypothetical questions raised (not by you). It is clear especially that if her only asset was her physique, which will have depreciated compared to someone who brings her brain into the equation and whose earnings will only grow with time, the road would definitely would be fraught with trouble for the richer party. Marry up, is a sensible thought instead of only blaming the woman. After all, it takes two to tango.
Tempoecorto
06-08-14, 03:29
Just as a side note: If a female physician lost her job (assuming she was not self employed) it is unlikely that she would not be able to get another job at a similar level unless she had become disabled or something like that.I am yet to see a Physician (or say a Lawyer or a merchant banker) who does not make WAY more than say, a law enforcement or Armed services person with high school or 2 year college etc.
Did you get his contact information?;)Grown Man took him for the night and will be sharing photos besides his number for you when he gets done with him today.
ReadyToGetOnIt
06-08-14, 18:25
Since were talking about things that are off to the left and sideways. Has anyone ever got with the girl who doesn't talk? She's always dressed nice, and is kinda cute, and is really nice if you spend the time to figure out her hand signals. My Sosua regulars know who I'm talking about. The twisted part of me wonders what it would be like to bang out a chick that doesn't talk. would she make any noise while you were hittin it? hmmm?
Since were talking about things that are off to the left and sideways. Has anyone ever got with the girl who doesn't talk? She's always dressed nice, and is kinda cute, and is really nice if you spend the time to figure out her hand signals. My Sosua regulars know who I'm talking about. The twisted part of me wonders what it would be like to bang out a chick that doesn't talk. would she make any noise while you were hittin it? hmmm?If you are attracted to her, I would not hesitate going with her as I am sure she is capable of conveying her feelings whether it be verbal, visual, body movements, etc. She might literally "blow you away". The best women are the ones with imperfections in my book.
StudBucket
06-08-14, 19:50
Hello gents, I did not want to get off track of the Sosua reports, but can anyone recommend another Latin American destination that is similar to Sosua or DR with respect of being able to find girls who will stay with you all night for up to $125 or less, known as TLN or toda la noche? I just got back from Costa Rica, and the girls did not want to do TLN unless you spent $200 to $250 USA, and they are still rushing to get out by 5 am Or so. What I like about Sosua or DR is that its a great value for women, for all night long with the girls (TLN) I spent 2500 to 3K pesos which was around $60 to $75 dollars USA. I liked Medellin and Bogota, but it was the girls were very expensive for all night long or TLN.
These are my general criteria:
1) Decent looking women with good attitudes.
2) Cost of $125 or less for TLN (all night long) , hoping to really keep it around $100 or less, but would go up a little more (max $150 all night).
3) I want the city to be clean and somewhat safe, would not do Mexico due to safety factor.
4) It must be in Latin America, as I have already been to Thailand and Philippines and definitely you can get what we are looking for.
Maybe I am looking for something that does not exist other than the Dominican Republic. Would really appreciate the help.I still will go back to Sosua soon, I really liked it, and D'Latins is a good venue for chicas. You may PM me as well.
Thanks.
SB.
SavePros321
06-08-14, 20:56
Check this out. They are both doctors, why did she get the child? If she lost her job, how much would he have to pay her then? Have you thought about this? If he lost his job how much would he have to pay her even if she was still working? Would his obligation to pay be reduced? He has to get permission from some court to have child support reduced? Here's something else you may not have thought of; Did he have proof from the very beginning that the child was even his? In most instances, if a wife has a child, the husband is presumed to be the father. In enough instances, some men still had to pay child support for a child that their wives had with another man. So a man can be totally clueless about the paternity of a child until something comes up.
I agree with all points by Wrx2005.
This book was written by a woman, and she echoes the same sentiments:
Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters
American society has become anti-male. Men are sensing the backlash and are consciously and unconsciously going on strike. They are dropping out of college, leaving the workforce and avoiding marriage and fatherhood at alarming rates. The trend is so pronounced that a number of books have been written about this man-child phenomenon, concluding that men have taken a vacation from responsibility simply because they can. But why should men participate in a system that seems to be increasingly stacked against them?
As Men on Strike demonstrates, men aren't dropping out because they are stuck in arrested development. They are instead acting rationally in response to the lack of incentives society offers them to be responsible fathers, husbands and providers. In addition, men are going on strike, either consciously or unconsciously, because they do not want to be injured by the myriad of laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century. Men are starting to fight back against the backlash. Men on Strike explains their battle cry.
http://www.amazon.com/Men-Strike-Boycotting-Marriage-Fatherhood/dp/1594036756/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1402256976&sr=8-1
Manizales911
06-08-14, 21:01
Hello gents, I did not want to get off track of the Sosua reports, but can anyone recommend another Latin American destination that is similar to Sosua or DR with respect of being able to find girls who will stay with you all night for up to $125 or less, known as TLN or toda la noche? I just got back from Costa Rica, and the girls did not want to do TLN unless you spent $200 to $250 USA, and they are still rushing to get out by 5 am Or so. What I like about Sosua or DR is that its a great value for women, for all night long with the girls (TLN) I spent 2500 to 3K pesos which was around $60 to $75 dollars USA. I liked Medellin and Bogota, but it was the girls were very expensive for all night long or TLN.
These are my general criteria:
1) Decent looking women with good attitudes.
2) Cost of $125 or less for TLN (all night long) , hoping to really keep it around $100 or less, but would go up a little more (max $150 all night).
3) I want the city to be clean and somewhat safe, would not do Mexico due to safety factor.
4) It must be in Latin America, as I have already been to Thailand and Philippines and definitely you can get what we are looking for.
Maybe I am looking for something that does not exist other than the Dominican Republic. Would really appreciate the help.I still will go back to Sosua soon, I really liked it, and D'Latins is a good venue for chicas. You may PM me as well.
Thanks.
SB.Easily obtainable throughout Latin America. It's not dependent on the location, it is dependent on YOU. Ability to speak the language is paramount, friendly personality etc. Ability and willingness to travel outside the usual haunts where the girls know they can get the big dollar.
Marry up, is a sensible thought instead of only blaming the woman. After all, it takes two to tango.Blaming the woman for what? You got an argument or a debate conjured up in your head somewhere? Because I don't see anybody here having a discussion of blaming women for anything other than what certainly applies accordingly. Further what's being discussed here are some issues men encounter or are aware of due to what's expected and practiced within their respective cultures, much of which may not be in a mans best interest.
I don't know what ballfield you are in, but marrying up is not a viable solution for what is being discussed. Especially when a man is not even focused or interested in marriage.
Easily obtainable throughout Latin America. It's not dependent on the location, it is dependent on YOU. Ability to speak the language is paramount, friendly personality etc. Ability and willingness to travel outside the usual haunts where the girls know they can get the big dollar.Agree 100%. I would add that, depending on who you are, this can also easily be obtained in places like the Del Rey. That being said, Sosua may be the easiest place for those that have absolutely nothing to offer except money and want to stay in the safe zone.
Further what's being discussed here are some issues men encounter or are aware of due to what's expected and practiced within their respective cultures, much of which may not be in a mans best interest.
So many women in this world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwKR_rZz-8M#t=149.
I agree with all points by Wrx2005.
This book was written by a woman, and she echoes the same sentiments:
Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters
American society has become anti-male. Men are sensing the backlash and are consciously and unconsciously going on strike. They are dropping out of college, leaving the workforce and avoiding marriage and fatherhood at alarming rates. The trend is so pronounced that a number of books have been written about this man-child phenomenon, concluding that men have taken a vacation from responsibility simply because they can. But why should men participate in a system that seems to be increasingly stacked against them?
As Men on Strike demonstrates, men aren't dropping out because they are stuck in arrested development. They are instead acting rationally in response to the lack of incentives society offers them to be responsible fathers, husbands and providers. In addition, men are going on strike, either consciously or unconsciously, because they do not want to be injured by the myriad of laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century. Men are starting to fight back against the backlash. Men on Strike explains their battle cry.
http://www.amazon.com/Men-Strike-Boycotting-Marriage-Fatherhood/dp/1594036756/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1402256976&sr=8-1Certain parts I'm in accord with. But I'm leery of the parts talking about men dropping out of college, leaving the workforce at alarming rates in response to an anti-male society. That part would have to be explained further.
I do support the part that says many men are avoiding marriage at alarming rates. The issue of avoiding fatherhood is debatable. We need to distinguish what is meant by avoiding fatherhood and who is making the assessment? Does it mean not having children? Does it mean some man has given up on being disrespected or his presence unappreciated? Or is this an attempt to say men don't want responsibility? We need to be clear on this because many men get a bum rap. For instance, many men are responsible towards their children except they don't live in the same household. They may be supporting their children, but are not in the system. Or, there are many men being fathers to a womans children fathered by other men. A good complement of men become frustrated and sick and tired of not being appreciated. So if they leave, they are not trying to avoid fatherhood, they are divorcing themselves from something that is not beneficial to them in the long run. So with all of that going on, who is taking into account the existence of these men that may be the backbone or support system for many children and households out there?
As far as college is concerned, many men have exercised alternatives to formal education and / or chose their own career paths to make a life for themselves. That article is suggesting that men are dropping out of college in response to an anti male society? When I think what is more likely, men are dropping out or not choosing college because they can get where they need to go through alternative means. It is no secret that not everyone with a degree or a college education will be successful. Many women are sold on the idea that if you arent in college or don't have a degree you aint shit. So enough men opt out of that mindset. Moreover, men don't have a backup support system as much as women do if they fail or have setbacks. Men can't typically turn to towards women to support them while they pursue their education or career goals.
Other than that, I probably need to read the book to really be sure what the authors POV really is. I'm usually leery of books by women trying to articulate the concerns of men. But I am glad you brought this up. Because this is what men are discussing in regards to the issues they face. It aint just aimless whining as a certain breed of men would like to make this out to be.
Mr Enternational
06-08-14, 22:15
SB I'm having a hard time trying to figure where in Latin America you CAN'T get a chick to stay with you for $125/ night. That is a lot of damn money in those parts. It all depends on where you shop and how you negotiate. You mentioned Bogota. Everytime I hit a Short Time chick there for $10, I ask about TLN rates and have always come to a $50 agreement although I have never needed to take any up on it because TLN is non-pro territory for me for the most part. I think a few months ago I gave a girl in Sosua 2000 pesos TLN and that was only because I was staying in her room for the night. That ties the soapys in Thailand, 4X4 termas in Rio, and Adelitas in Tijuana for the most I have ever paid for P4P period.
SB I'm having a hard time trying to figure where in Latin America you CAN'T get a chick to stay with you for $125/ night. That is a lot of damn money in those parts. It all depends on where you shop and how you negotiate. You mentioned Bogota. Everytime I hit a Short Time chick there for $10, I ask about TLN rates and have always come to a $50 agreement although I have never needed to take any up on it because TLN is non-pro territory for me for the most part. I think a few months ago I gave a girl in Sosua 2000 pesos TLN and that was only because I was staying in her room for the night. That ties the soapys in Thailand, 4X4 termas in Rio, and Adelitas in Tijuana for the most I have ever paid for P4P period.I agree. The only place where it may be tough would be Rio, and even there, it's certainly doable.
Having said that, one needs to have a bit of moxie. If you're one of these guys who just pays whatever a chica asks, you may have a problem staying within that budget.
StudBucket
06-08-14, 23:48
sb i'm having a hard time trying to figure where in latin america you can't get a chick to stay with you for $125/ night. that is a lot of damn money in those parts. it all depends on where you shop and how you negotiate. you mentioned bogota. everytime i hit a short time chick there for $10, i ask about tln rates and have always come to a $50 agreement although i have never needed to take any up on it because tln is non-pro territory for me for the most part. i think a few months ago i gave a girl in sosua 2000 pesos tln and that was only because i was staying in her room for the night. that ties the soapys in thailand, 4x4 termas in rio, and adelitas in tijuana for the most i have ever paid for p4p period.thanks for the response mr. e and all other forum members. my experience in latin america mongering was only limited to sosua, brazil (rio and sao paulo), costa rica (san jose and jaco), and colombia (bogota / medellin). i guess most of my mongering has occurred in the wrong venues, it sounds like, other than sosua. because when i went to bogota and medellin, the girls i met were only in the strip clubs and they wanted short time only unless it was super expensive. perhaps, my going to more commercial places like fase dos, la isla, loutron in medellin, and in bogota we went to the zona rosa, had something with me being able to not find these types of girls. in brazil, in sao paulo i went to the boites like scandolo, which have high quality chicks but these were short time oriented. in rio, i went to help which was all night long for $100 us dollars but since that closed i was not able to find a place like that. having been to barbarellas in rio, of course, this is also short time chicks.
can you recommend mr. e a few places with good quality girls in bogota that you can find these long time girls or maybe i will peek through your former posts, which are many. someone mentioned to me the del rey can offer lt, but as i said, the girls did not want to budge off the $200 price for tln.
I think a few months ago I gave a girl in Sosua 2000 pesos TLN and that was only because I was staying in her room for the night. That ties the soapys in Thailand, 4X4 termas in Rio, and Adelitas in Tijuana for the most I have ever paid for P4P period.WOW, 2000 for TLN?
That's what's up.
How much do you give for short stay in Sosua (say 1-2 hour session, 2 pops)?
StudBucket
06-09-14, 01:12
Easily obtainable throughout Latin America. It's not dependent on the location, it is dependent on YOU. Ability to speak the language is paramount, friendly personality etc. Ability and willingness to travel outside the usual haunts where the girls know they can get the big dollar.I guess this is part of the issue I'm having, and need to be a little more specific about my requests. We are looking for venues in Latin American cities where there are at least 40 girls or more in one venue. The reason for this, is that I usually go out at night for mongering, and I am with 2 or 3 buddies, so we need ample selection. In Sosua, my favorite hunting ground is the'Latins. I do like Cocal at Jaco, and Del Rey due to the amount of selection. So, I know its achievable for me hunting solo, to get a street walker, internet girl, etc. But I should have listed one of my criteria, as having a venue where one can go out at night and have at least 40 or more girls like the' Latins, Cocal in Jaco, etc. But that has girls that will do TLN (all night long) for $75 to $125 max or less.
Thanks Again.
SB.
I am sure there are many factors that play into it but amicable divorce is a possibility. My brother was a resident of NY when this happened but the point I was making still stands: if the wife does not have a profession to enable her to make the money she needs to sustain a lifestyle she was used to while married, things will go south for the richer party. I have no idea of what happens to drug dealers or other hypothetical questions raised (not by you). It is clear especially that if her only asset was her physique, which will have depreciated compared to someone who brings her brain into the equation and whose earnings will only grow with time, the road would definitely would be fraught with trouble for the richer party. Marry up, is a sensible thought instead of only blaming the woman. After all, it takes two to tango.Aint nobody arguing against the possibility of couples having an amicable divorce.
Many of the issues that concern men does not even have to be about being in a marriage. And there aint nothing marrying up is going to do to resolve those issues. Just because a woman makes money or can take care of herself, that does not mean she has good character, or that she will make a compatible mate. Especially months or years down the road. Much of what men discuss is what happens during the get to know you phase. Before a relationship is even established. Thats why I said to you before, that I don't know what ballfield you are in talking about marrying up, when a man may not have even got that far.
Not surprising, enough women have a self serving perspective as well, as depicted in the exchange one of the guys showed us with the woman claiming she believes men are supposed to take care of their woman, and do XY and Z. Whats the problem here? That mentality in enough women is an epidemic. On a date, or just meeting, the man in front of you is not your man yet, and she is not his woman. So there is no need for a woman to be expecting some man to be taking care of her while they are only just getting to know each other. Moreover, what role is the woman playing to give that man incentive to even want to pursue her? Since sex aint on the table for possibly up to 5 dates, what in the hell is she offering besides agreeing to go out? And please don't tell me to make sure you date a woman that makes enough money. Any man with enough experience knows that just because a woman is educated, successful or has the means to pay during the get to know you phase, many don't or are reluctant, due to having an entitlement mentality, or they have hangups about contributing equitably towards the same goal. They think they are supposed to be pursued, wined and dined, while they sit there deciding if some man is worth it. Phuck that!
If a woman has a problem giving up the ass, well then she better consider putting in some kind of commensurate effort if she expects an aware man to seek anything substantive with her. Or at the very least a 2nd date. Many men understand all of this, and can discuss it rationally. It doesn't mean they are walking around with ill will towards women or wish them harm. Quite the contrary. For the most part enough men have already solved any concerns they have by going their own way. But will treat any woman with basic respect unless she gives him reason not to. That applies to domestic or women abroad.
They could care less what certain women are doing in life or caring about their gripes. In terms of not finding a decent man. As far as they are concerned, women who are incompatible with their needs and those that support them, are free to do and think whatever they want. As long as it doesn't impose on that mans peace of mind. Traveling abroad or simply refusing to entertain incompatible women / situations has certainly relieved a great deal of frustration and un necessary dependence.
thanks for the response mr. e and all other forum members. my experience in latin america mongering was only limited to sosua, brazil (rio and sao paulo), costa rica (san jose and jaco), and colombia (bogota / medellin). i guess most of my mongering has occurred in the wrong venues, it sounds like, other than sosua. because when i went to bogota and medellin, the girls i met were only in the strip clubs and they wanted short time only unless it was super expensive. perhaps, my going to more commercial places like fase dos, la isla, loutron in medellin, and in bogota we went to the zona rosa, had something with me being able to not find these types of girls. in brazil, in sao paulo i went to the boites like scandolo, which have high quality chicks but these were short time oriented. in rio, i went to help which was all night long for $100 us dollars but since that closed i was not able to find a place like that. having been to barbarellas in rio, of course, this is also short time chicks.
can you recommend mr. e a few places with good quality girls in bogota that y such ou can find these long time girls or maybe i will peek through your former posts, which are many. someone mentioned to me the del rey can offer lt, but as i said, the girls did not want to budge off the $200 price for tln.you went to all the upper end places in medellin. if you have any spanish speaking skills and can handle a street scene try avenida de la grief and the botero plaza area of medellin. you can get tons of girls for $ 10 for short time,. if you speak spanish you can line up plenty of girls that would accept $ 50 or less for tln but they won't be on par beauty wise with the girls in the places you mentioned that you visited. i haven't been to cr in a while but wouldn't waste my time in the del rey, as i always went to where the locals went like molino rojo. as previously mentioned, speaking a fair amount of spanish is paramount.
I guess this is part of the issue I'm having, and need to be a little more specific about my requests. We are looking for venues in Latin American cities where there are at least 40 girls or more in one venue. The reason for this, is that I usually go out at night for mongering, and I am with 2 or 3 buddies, so we need ample selection. In Sosua, my favorite hunting ground is the'Latins. I do like Cocal at Jaco, and Del Rey due to the amount of selection. So, I know its achievable for me hunting solo, to get a street walker, internet girl, etc. But I should have listed one of my criteria, as having a venue where one can go out at night and have at least 40 or more girls like the' Latins, Cocal in Jaco, etc. But that has girls that will do TLN (all night long) for $75 to $125 max or less.
Thanks Again.
SB.This parameter makes it much more difficult! I don't know about Bogota, but in MDE and Cali, all the places with 40+ girls are quite expensive for takeout.
FWIW, I only do TLN with girls I already know that I have a good rapport with. This has worked well for me over time, and I usually don't pay substantially more for all night than for a two-hour session. Maybe if you have a good short session with a girl from a casa, strip club, or wherever, you can later negotiate a reasonable TLN rate. You can at least avoid the "take-out" fee that the strip clubs charge.
In Rio, I occasionally had Termas girls sleep over after work or on their off-day. I haven't done this with strip club girls in Colombia, but I'm sure one can. If you have a nice apartment, some of the girls might be quite amenable to this option.
You went to all the upper end places in Medellin. If you have any Spanish speaking skills and can handle a street scene try Avenida De La Grief and the Botero Plaza area of Medellin. You can get tons of girls for $ 10 for short time,. If you speak Spanish you can line up plenty of girls that would accept $ 50 or less for TLN but they won't be on par beauty wise with the girls in the places you mentioned that you visited. I haven't been to CR in a while but wouldn't waste my time in the Del Rey, as I always went to where the locals went like Molino Rojo. As previously mentioned, speaking a fair amount of Spanish is paramount.I just don't understand guys that fuck ugly / fat girls for less than 50 USD when they travel. Sure its available but I'm not traveling for that. To each his own, and I agree. Fuck those Union tricks in Delrey who ask for 100 USD before they give you their name. It isn't worth it. Medellin is not for TLN but the girls can be had in a certain way. What I do is hit the strip clubs like Luna luneras, Sandiego, faze dos, and ejective and set up dates later by getting their numbers. They would come over before work and spend the afternoon and evening with me for 60 USD and then I could club hop late at night. The girls are beautiful and sweet but you have to keep it in check. For you guys traveling looking for wives and a serious relationship, be careful. Most of these girls from Latin countries don't adapt well to non-Latin cultures. Its easier for you to adjust to her Latin culture than her to yours. You can learn the language, the dancing etc. Guys with money and a weak heart WILL get burned.
I haven't been posting much lately on the Dominican board because I have found my happiness somewhere else. I'm talking about a place that is completely safe and its a throwback to a time when people had respect and appreciated good romance and sex. Those of you who are my friends know where I'm talking about. Lets just say its the last place on earth like this. My advise to guys searching for such a place is to go where other guys aren't going and make your own paradise.
Also I talked to Jao the other day and he told me to say Hello, to BQ and Mr E.
StudBucket
06-09-14, 08:54
This parameter makes it much more difficult! I don't know about Bogota, but in MDE and Cali, all the places with 40+ girls are quite expensive for takeout.
FWIW, I only do TLN with girls I already know that I have a good rapport with. This has worked well for me over time, and I usually don't pay substantially more for all night than for a two-hour session. Maybe if you have a good short session with a girl from a casa, strip club, or wherever, you can later negotiate a reasonable TLN rate. You can at least avoid the "take-out" fee that the strip clubs charge.
In Rio, I occasionally had Termas girls sleep over after work or on their off-day. I haven't done this with strip club girls in Colombia, but I'm sure one can. If you have a nice apartment, some of the girls might be quite amenable to this option.Exactly, this parameter (at least 40 girls in the venue and some who will do TLN) make it difficult. I guess I got lucky finding the'Latins (thanks to this forum) and Rumbas as these parameters are there. I know there I can pull 7s, 8s, for TLN for 2 to 3 k depending on the night, crowd factor, quality of the girl, etc. This is my dilemma though, there are not too many places like this in Latin America, and the closing of Help Disco in Rio killed 1 venue that had this criteria. That is why I posted my original question on this thread.
StudBucket
06-09-14, 09:00
You went to all the upper end places in Medellin. If you have any Spanish speaking skills and can handle a street scene try Avenida De La Grief and the Botero Plaza area of Medellin. You can get tons of girls for $ 10 for short time,. If you speak Spanish you can line up plenty of girls that would accept $ 50 or less for TLN but they won't be on par beauty wise with the girls in the places you mentioned that you visited. I haven't been to CR in a while but wouldn't waste my time in the Del Rey, as I always went to where the locals went like Molino Rojo. As previously mentioned, speaking a fair amount of Spanish is paramount.Thanks for the advice Surfer 500, I will check these out next time. Yes, I am fluent in Spanish and can charm the chicas. I just prefer nightime venues like clubs, bars, or even strip clubs to get the criteria I mentioned. I will still check these out though for sure. Thanks for answering my questions though, I did not mean to tie up this thread with my hunt for a Golden Egg. I promise to continue to contribute as much as I can to this board or help fellow members when I know the answer...
StudBucket
06-09-14, 09:11
WOW, 2000 for TLN?
That's what's up.
How much do you give for short stay in Sosua (say 1-2 hour session, 2 pops)?You can certainty get some TLN girls in Sosua for 2 k. They won't certainly be 8's or 9's in looks, but she may be a strong 7. It will have to be probably closer to closing time and have good chemistry with her. Most will ask 2. 5 to 3 k for TLN. The cost for short time in Sosua cost me 1500 usually, so this is why I would rather pay 1 k more pesos (23 dollars USA More) and get her TLN.
FWIW, I only do TLN with girls I already know that I have a good rapport with. This has worked well for me over time, and I usually don't pay substantially more for all night than for a two-hour session. Maybe if you have a good short session with a girl from a casa, strip club, or wherever, you can later negotiate a reasonable TLN rate. You can at least avoid the "take-out" fee that the strip clubs charge..This is good advice.
From what I've seen, heard, and experienced, trying to get a good TLN session with a complete stranger in Sosua, is fraught with potential problems.
Much better to take her for a test drive first, so you know her habits, her personal schedule etc. and if she can deliver what you're looking for. Otherwise you're likely to be woken up in the middle of the night by a chica with her clothes on asking to be paid (or propina, motoconcho fare) and escorted out of the hotel.
Stud Bucket.
I'm curious, do you negotiate TLN with a chica you've never been with? I ask because in my experience (and that of other mongers I know), this is generally a bad idea. It's just hard to know how your rapport is going to be until you actually fuck around with them. I hate to waste my money (and more importantly my time) on a chica that's not as good in the bed as she looked in the bar.
Early in my mongering career, I had a few experiences where I really regretted committing myself to all night with a chick that ended up being a bad performer. Times I would have gladly paid an extra $50 to get the chick out of my bed so I could sleep!
Since then, I never commit to TLN up front with a girl I don't know.. If we get along well, I might suggest the chick stay TLN. Or sometimes the chick will hint at it.
How do you avoid bad experiences with these TLNs? Or maybe you just get drunk and are able to pass out when you're not fucking them? I know that's what I used to do when I was much younger.
I just don't understand guys that fuck ugly / fat girls for less than 50 USD when they travel. Sure its available but I'm not traveling for that. To each his own, and I agree. Fuck those Union tricks in Delrey who ask for 100 USD before they give you their name. It isn't worth it. Medellin is not for TLN but the girls can be had in a certain way. What I do is hit the strip clubs like Luna luneras, Sandiego, faze dos, and ejective and set up dates later by getting their numbers. They would come over before work and spend the afternoon and evening with me for 60 USD and then I could club hop late at night. The girls are beautiful and sweet but you have to keep it in check. For you guys traveling looking for wives and a serious relationship, be careful. Most of these girls from Latin countries don't adapt well to non-Latin cultures. Its easier for you to adjust to her Latin culture than her to yours. You can learn the language, the dancing etc. Guys with money and a weak heart WILL get burned.
I haven't been posting much lately on the Dominican board because I have found my happiness somewhere else. I'm talking about a place that is completely safe and its a throwback to a time when people had respect and appreciated good romance and sex. Those of you who are my friends know where I'm talking about. Lets just say its the last place on earth like this. My advise to guys searching for such a place is to go where other guys aren't going and make your own paradise.
Also I talked to Jao the other day and he told me to say Hello, to BQ and Mr E.I don't fuck ugly or fat chicks and am offended, in fact I'm crying right now and have a tissue in my hand. There are lots of gems for way less than $ 50 to be had from the streets in Medellin. Just my style versus all the high end places.
Woke up at 7 AM today and went to Hideway Beach (Playa Encuentro) and spent an hour and a half in the water riding the waves which weren't very good today. Returned to the Hotel and my Dominican wife had just stepped out of the shower. Just had an hour and a half session with her and feeling totally rejuvenated with a workout of all appendages. Grown Man where are you? That Chica with a dick you took from the Strip must have you tied up. Off to Santiago for the afternoon and night, going to take the Dominican wife to see a 3D the movie tonight. Tomorrow I return to Sosua for my Haitain wife. Just the start of another week in Paradise.
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I haven't been posting much lately on the Dominican board because I have found my happiness somewhere else. I'm talking about a place that is completely safe and its a throwback to a time when people had respect and appreciated good romance and sex. Those of you who are my friends know where I'm talking about. Lets just say its the last place on earth like this. My advise to guys searching for such a place is to go where other guys aren't going and make your own paradise.
Your secret would be kept better if you had not posted today to say that you are currently in Cuba. Still, I won't tell anyone.
Manizales911
06-09-14, 18:42
Your secret would be kept better if you had not posted today to say that you are currently in Cuba. Still, I won't tell anyone.What an a-hole.
What an a-hole.I agree Mani. Frannie I never said it was a secret, I said only close friends know my spot. Plus it wouldn't be appropriate to get conversation about another place started on the DR board.
I don't fuck ugly or fat chicks and am offended, in fact I'm crying right now and have a tissue in my hand. There are lots of gems for way less than $ 50 to be had from the streets in Medellin. Just my style versus all the high end places.No offence meant buddy, but you said they weren't "on par" so I assumed maybe fat and ugly. Please excuse my error.
Woke up at 7 AM today and went to Hideway Beach (Playa Encuentro) and spent an hour and a half in the water riding the waves which weren't very good today. Returned to the Hotel and my Dominican wife had just stepped out of the shower. Just had an hour and a half session with her and feeling totally rejuvenated with a workout of all appendages. Grown Man where are you? That Chica with a dick you took from the Strip must have you tied up. Off to Santiago for the afternoon and night, going to take the Dominican wife to see a 3D the movie tonight. Tomorrow I return to Sosua for my Haitain wife. Just the start of another week in Paradise.So you going to keep your promise good Surfer boy. I jumped bail back to Boca Chica. Do you could not be looking for me you are to tied up. I know you are soon going to be having Haitian withdrawals. After all she's your new toy. Oh yeah about that chica you left behind. I just left him your number. He said something about waxing your board. He said you'll understand.
Mr Enternational
06-10-14, 00:04
Was on my way to Sosua and had a bad accident in Abreu. With the police now. Called Grown Man but it looks like he gave his phone away to some broad. Details later.
Was on my way to Sosua and had a bad accident in Abreu. With the police now. Called Grown Man but it looks like he gave his phone away to some broad. Details later.I will PM you my new number.
Was on my way to Sosua and had a bad accident in Abreu. With the police now. Called Grown Man but it looks like he gave his phone away to some broad. Details later.I really hope all is well with you. After I meeting you I thought about doing things your way, I mean renting a car and all. Now I must say, no thanks. Thank for reporting.
RR.
Mr Enternational
06-10-14, 17:06
I left from the airport in Santo Domingo headed to the north coast. I stopped at Bon in Nagua as usual to get some ice cream. I continued driving through Cabrera. I thought to myself that I forgot to add minutes to my phone online so I needed to stop at a store to get a recharge so I could make some calls on the way to Sosua. At 4:30 pm, I went past a store in Abreu and decided that I would get a phone card from there. There were no other cars around so I stopped abruptly, looked back, then threw my car into reverse. There was a long straight stretch behind me. In the distance, I saw another car coming so I slammed on brakes and threw it in drive to make a left turn into the store parking lot. CRASH! The guy behind me saw me backing up and did not know I was turning left, so he decided to pass me on the left just as I was making the turn. The driver side door glass had been completely broken out and small fragments were all over me.
I sat there for a minute thinking oh shit. The guy (cool Canadian guy who lives in Cabrera) got out of his car and ran up to me along with many Dominicans who saw the crash. They kept asking if I was okay, but I wasn't saying anything. I was just thinking FUCK. They kept trying to open the door but that wasn't happening. They asked me if I could get out. Finally I grabbed the rental car paperwork and my phones and crawled out of the passenger side. There was not a scratch on me or the other driver. I went inside the store to get minutes so I could call Budget rental car assistance. The other driver or one of the bystanders made a call to Eddie, who is the law around those parts. Another lady who spoke English and said she just moved back from New York said the police would come and they are going to want money.
Budget told me that a tow truck would be coming in 45 minutes to take me and the car all the way back to Las Americas airport in Santo Domingo. I asked them if it was at all possible to go to Puerto Plata instead, but they said no. The drive so far had taken me 2 hours so I knew it would be 3 hours in a tow truck. They told me to bring the paperwork from the police and they would give me another car. After a while, a National Police truck pulled up and three officers got out. They suggested we try to move the car. As soon as I started it the RPMs skyrocketed so I turned it back off. We then noticed that the engine had actually been knocked out of the car. As guys like Jao have said before, the only ones who can work with traffic issues are the AMVET guys. The national police was useless.
Finally Eddie showed up in a Toyota Camry. He was the AMVET guy. He wrote some stuff down and took some pictures with is phone. He then said we needed to move the car. From the passenger side, I put the key in and put it in neutral and took the brake off. A bunch of guys who were still standing around pitched in to push it to a side street. The tow truck finally showed up and put the car on the bed. Eddie told the tow truck guys that we would have to go to the internet shop in Cabrera for him to make the report and to meet us there.
Me and the other driver got in Eddie's car. I got in the back seat and there was a big ass roach on the floor on the other side. WTF. We got to the internet shop but there was nobody there for Eddie to dictate the report to. We got back in the car and went to another internet shop. There Eddie took our stories then dictated to the guy what to type up. He never asked to see our driver's license, but we did end up showing it to the guy who was typing so that he could spell our names correctly. Eddie had to go outside to get the VIN of the car I was driving. At that time the other driver asked the guy who was typing who would be responsible for whatever payment. The guy said he didn't know. Eddie finally came back, the report was printed, all three of us signed it and Eddie put the city seal on it. He attached a copy of my information for the other driver and the other driver's information for me. The total cost ended up being 100 pesos, which the other driver paid to the guy at the internet shop.
The entire time I acted as if I could not speak Spanish. There were always enough Dominicans around who could speak English, including the guy at the internet shop. Everything was always on the up and up. Although you read a lot of negative reports in the DR threads about how Dominicans are, they showed me that they are a caring culture. There was none of that underhanded stuff with the police that everybody talks about and that the lady at the store warned me about.
I went outside to get into the tow truck with the owner and his son. Before going to Santo Domingo we stopped by his house / shop. I went in to use the bathroom and his wife was cooking dinner and his other two sons on the bed watching TV. I took a nap in the truck on the way to Santo Domingo.
When we arrived at the airport I went inside Budget and gave the guy the paper that I had gotten from Eddie. He said that it wasn't a police report. I said well that is what he gave me. I had to fill out another paper telling what happened. We went back outside for him to give me the next car. Just then he thought of something and had to run back in. It was a while before he came back out, but when he did he said that I would need a different card to put the next car on, because you can't use the same card for a different car after an accident. No problem, I have about 10. He ran one of my VISAs through with the usual holds of $1000 and $500 and made a new rental agreement for the same amount as before. We went back outside to look over the car and I drove off in a brand new Kia.
My original plan was to start on the north coast and work my way back to Santo Domingo, but because of the accident that is not happening. When I got back to Budget, I called my main girl in Santo Domingo to let her know I was here to surprise her. She was not expecting me until next Sunday and had taken off work next Monday as well so we could spend time together. She lives in Gazcue right off Independencia, which is right around from the hotel that I stay in. When I got to the hotel I paid the usual $40 for my room. My girl had not arrived, so I called my girl in Bonao who was not expecting me until later on in the week and told her that I was actually on my way to surprise her when the bad accident happened. I told her that I was back in Santo Domingo and would stay here a couple of days before I come. My girl finally arrived to stay the night. She got up about 7 so she could go home and get ready for work. She has an exam at the university after work so will not be returning until 8 pm. She told me to stay in and rest, but I told her that I will just go to Boca Chica to hang out until she finishes her day. That is where I am on my way to now. That fried fish is calling my name. So my plan has changed to work my way from Santo Domingo to Sosua. It will work out well because I should be in Sosua toward the end of the weekend rush.
I called American Express this morning to ask what to do about the accident. The lady said it would take about 10 minutes to go over the questions with me, or I could do it online. I opted for the online choice. She gave me the site to go to and it took me about 15 minutes because of the slow internet. I forgot that I had some things downloading at the same time that I was trying to do the forms.
So you going to keep your promise good Surfer boy. I jumped bail back to Boca Chica. Do you could not be looking for me you are to tied up. I know you are soon going to be having Haitian withdrawals. After all she's your new toy. Oh yeah about that chica you left behind. I just left him your number. He said something about waxing your board. He said you'll understand.My new Chica!
I really hope all is well with you. After I meeting you I thought about doing things your way, I mean renting a car and all. Now I must say, no thanks. Thank for reporting.
RR.Mr. E has balls to pick up another car after getting into a wreck like that. I would be totally freaked out. It's one thing to get into an accident in the US but in a third world country your subject to all kinds of complications and just imagine if your injured and need medical help.
SavePros321
06-10-14, 18:55
I left from the airport in Santo Domingo headed to the north coast. I stopped at Bon in Nagua as usual to get some ice cream. I continued driving through Cabrera. I thought to myself that I forgot to add minutes to my phone online so I needed to stop at a store to get a recharge so I could make some calls on the way to Sosua. At 4:30 pm, I went past a store in Abreu and decided that I would get a phone card from there. There were no other cars around so I stopped abruptly, looked back, then threw my car into reverse. There was a long straight stretch behind me. In the distance, I saw another car coming so I slammed on brakes and threw it in drive to make a left turn into the store parking lot. CRASH! The guy behind me saw me backing up and did not know I was turning left, so he decided to pass me on the left just as I was making the turn. The driver side door glass had been completely broken out and small fragments were all over me.
No criticism from me. Thanks for reporting on this. Gives everyone more insight as to what you could expect from being in a major accident in the DR.
It looks like you didn't need it in this instance, but did you happen to have the "Casa del Conductor" insurance option?
Mr Enternational
06-10-14, 19:54
It looks like you didn't need it in this instance, but did you happen to have the "Casa del Conductor" insurance option?All I had was whatever my American Express provides. And the funny thing is that it is a brand new account and my first time even using the card. I wanted to ask the cop about Casa del Conductor but I didn't want to blow my cover of not being able to speak Spanish.
The entire time I acted as if I could not speak Spanish. There were always enough Dominicans around who could speak English, including the guy at the internet shop. Everything was always on the up and up. Although you read a lot of negative reports in the DR threads about how Dominicans are, they showed me that they are a caring culture. There was none of that underhanded stuff with the police that everybody talks about and that the lady at the store warned me about.
.I am glad that you made it out of this with out any physical or financial problems.
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.......The entire time I acted as if I could not speak Spanish. There were always enough Dominicans around who could speak English, including the guy at the internet shop. Everything was always on the up and up. Although you read a lot of negative reports in the DR threads about how Dominicans are, they showed me that they are a caring culture. There was none of that underhanded stuff with the police that everybody talks about and that the lady at the store warned me about..........Glad you weren't hurt Mr E.
Like how you stayed cool the whole time. If you would have freaked, it might have been a longer story and ended differently.
There's a lesson there.
I haven't been posting much lately on the Dominican board because I have found my happiness somewhere else. I'm talking about a place that is completely safe and its a throwback to a time when people had respect and appreciated good romance and sex. Those of you who are my friends know where I'm talking about. Lets just say its the last place on earth like this. My advise to guys searching for such a place is to go where other guys aren't going and make your own paradise.
.Big deal.
What's so secret about Boca Chica? LOL.
Mr. You I gave you my number I was right in Boca Chica. You had me sitting by the phone like a little *****.
Everything was always on the up and up. Although you read a lot of negative reports in the DR threads about how Dominicans are, they showed me that they are a caring culture. Wow, sounds like you dodged a major one there. Thank goodness you weren't hurt.
My new Chica!Surfer you moving up in the world this one doesn't have a beard like the last one.
The guy behind me saw me backing up and did not know I was turning left, so he decided to pass me on the left just as I was making the turn. The driver side door glass had been completely broken out and small fragments were all over me.Damn Ace!. What an ordeal. Especially time and inconvenience wise. I'm doing my usual and renting this week too. My situation could be much worse, especially since I am renting from one of those "Rent at Your Own Risk" rental agencies. Glad you are alright.
Wow, sounds like you dodged a major one there. Thank goodness you weren't hurt.Yeah I am also happy you were not hurt.
Mr Enternational
06-11-14, 00:39
Mr. You I gave you my number I was right in Boca Chica. You had me sitting by the phone like a little *****.I didn't receive the number. I have been in Boca Chica all day. I have a gooood report to write on it. I started to stop my ass by Vila Capri and ask about you too. At a chick's house in Santo Domingo Este now. Tried to upload a Sample of Boca Chica but I had the megapixels set too high on my phone. Have to change it later on the computer.
Looks like another Sosua monger gone:http://www.puertoplatahabla.com/articles.php?art_id=13751&start=1.
SavePros321
06-11-14, 01:27
Looks like another Sosua monger gone:http://www.puertoplatahabla.com/articles.php?art_id=13751&start=1.Dayum son! I thought there was generally nothing to worry about with Haitian putas?
Looks like another Sosua monger gone:http://www.puertoplatahabla.com/articles.php?art_id=13751&start=1.You don't mess with a Haitian woman. This might do for his requiem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZt1xKtPbUQ
Looks like another Sosua monger gone:http://www.puertoplatahabla.com/articles.php?art_id=13751&start=1.This recalls the erstwhile Vice President Nelson Rockeller, who expired in the ecstatic embrace of a campaign worker, a young lass. So one doesn't need a Haitian honey for that, althought that may help.
Real men die in the saddle!
ConquerorVal
06-11-14, 04:20
A comprehensive list, to be sure, Orgasmico. The great thing is, if you understand those rules, you'll never be disappointed in Sosua.Absolutely, a great list. Been back home for two weeks and just got the first request via Tango for financial assistance from my novia. Funny, how predictably girls one meets on the street or in discos behave. Still have not got my shit together to upload my report-just managed to do my tripadvisor review.
Looks like another Sosua monger gone:http://www.puertoplatahabla.com/articles.php?art_id=13751&start=1.Let's hope it didn't result from a petty dispute over a few pesos with a crazy puta that got escalated.
I'm reminded of something I posted just a couple days ago:
QUOTE "Golden Rule" of mongering.
When you're in their surroundings or unfamiliar territory, and something goes wrong, immediately realize that you have made a bad judgement, or have been gamed. Smile, cut your losses, pay the price, get out of there, and charge it up to experience. For the sake of a few bucks, you can avoid escalating the problem to who knows where, and you won't make enemies, who might try to get even with you". QUOTE.
Stay safe, brethren!
Absolutely, a great list. Been back home for two weeks and just got the first request via Tango for financial assistance from my novia. Funny, how predictably girls one meets on the street or in discos behave. Still have not got my shit together to upload my report-just managed to do my tripadvisor review.Also funny how all those "requests" look like they were cut and pasted from the same puta manual. Or like their phones had a built in auto text app. LOL.
Looking forward to your report.
If I (as a non-German) started hanging out at the German-run bars and chatting up the Haitian girls would that be seen as bad form? It seems that the German guy / Haitian female bond is strong and I'd be making enemies if I tried to chat up a darker chica.
Charles Pooter
06-12-14, 02:15
If I (as a non-German) started hanging out at the German-run bars and chatting up the Haitian girls would that be seen as bad form? It seems that the German guy / Haitian female bond is strong and I'd be making enemies if I tried to chat up a darker chica.Absolutely not. Ad runs Rancho Tipico and attracts a lot of German-speakers and haitianas. It is also a favorite spot for non-German ex-pats and he would welcome your custom.
When I visited Sosua a lot my favorite place was Bar Central. Same applied (though I would not necessarily recommend picking up a chica there unless a fresh one has come into town).
Obviously you have to be aware of any relationships between men and girls in order not to cause offence, but that would be the same for dominicanas too and men of any nationality. Fifteen minutes chilling out should be enough to tell which men are with steady girlfriends. And even if you do get it wrong it is rare that anyone would take offence. More likely to invite you to join them for a beer.
I cannot speak for the small hours when a lot of people are drunk and many guys and chicas have not yet pulled. Doesn't take too much to start trouble in that situation.
Incidentally, French-speaking nationalities and Italians are equally partial to haitianas. It was they who got Sosua rolling long before the big influx of Americans.
If I (as a non-German) started hanging out at the German-run bars and chatting up the Haitian girls would that be seen as bad form? It seems that the German guy / Haitian female bond is strong and I'd be making enemies if I tried to chat up a darker chica.Don't know what kind of jungle fever fantasy you have in your head but those girls are about trying to make some pesos.
Just be careful as those dudes come up missing more than most: http://dominicanwatchdog.org/page-Too_many_tourists_killed_in_the_Dominican_Republic.
Don't know what kind of jungle fever fantasy you have in your head but those girls are about trying to make some pesos.
Just be careful as those dudes come up missing more than most: http://dominicanwatchdog.org/page-Too_many_tourists_killed_in_the_Dominican_Republic.LOL. I don't have any "Jungle Fever" fantasy. I'm just going by what I've just seen over the past 6 days.
If I saw a Haitian walking or sitting with a guy he would almost always be heard speaking with a German accent and this would occur at one of the places that seem to cater to German ex-pats. It was my first short term trip to Sosua and this was rather consistent.
Problem was I saw more than a few I liked but did not see one black gringo with a Haitian girl.
I guess my point is that I was trying to watch for those hidden and rarely spoken about social codes that rookies like myself tend to miss.
Soon as I was out of the POP terminal I started asking about this verification program of cell sims supposedly going on. 1st guy I spoke to about it was the dominican who is employed at the car rental place. He said it was true, and most of his family did the verification online. Then I talked to my Tourist guide buddy Miguel and he said the same thing. I asked why are they doing it? They both claim that they are implementing a system where they can identify crank callers that abuse emergency services, like the fire department, ambulance, police etc. I think the problem is, there are many sim cards that are bought on the street, often individuals have several cards. Apparently these cards are not readily identifiable to who is using the sim. So they want to rectify that. I suppose any sim that can't be verified will be terminated.
Okay so I went to Orange. The girl there asked for my passport (gave her a copy) and asked me to write down my numbers. She got on her computer terminal for a minute or two, handed my papers and said I was okay. I asked her specifically what happens to people who have sim cards but they are in another country? She said that sim will become terminated and they will have to get a new number. I asked about a deadline, and she said tomorrow June 12 is the deadline. I wanted to ask more questions to make sure I understood everything, but she was busy tending to other anxious customers.
After going to Orange I went to the playa for lunch. Met a cute 29 yr old chica there (she looked 22), set up a date for later. As I was leaving the playa my regular who was bed ridden just last week hurriedly caught up to me. This same chica texted me last week complaining about being unemployed and then sick in a hospital for a few days (sent bogus pics too) , all of a sudden is working at the same spot she was working last trip, and no sign of having been sick. No problem, that doesn't concern me. They can lie all they want. I know the game with her (and others) and how to play it.
I agreed to get together with her when she got off work at 6. She came right to my spot. We did our thing and after 2 hours I told her I was going out later and didn't want all night tonight. She left and now I was going to prepare to make the hookup with the chica from the playa.
Then it dawned on me. I have no clue what this chicas expectations are for getting paid. It was clear when she told me she was staying at City Lights, that she was on the hustle. So I decided to text her and tell her what I usually pay for 2 hours. 1500. I said I would offer 500 more if the service was good. No response to my text. My blondie regular had been blowing up my phone. And I sure wouldn't mind getting with her. We have good chemistry. I set out to see if the chica was at City Lights anyway. I spotted her sitting at the bar, and then I called her.
Bottom line she said she wanted 2500 for 2 hours, that 1500 I offered for 2 hours wasnt enough. I said I understood, and hung up. Went home to relax, and prepare for Blondie. I don't know what I was thinking. But I am glad I asked what her expectations were before picking her up, getting her to my spot only to have a little dilemma. By getting her expectations beforehand, I saved myself from wasting my time and money. I had no clue if she could or would give good service. I wasnt about to take that chance, even for a short stay. Especially since I know I wouldn't have needed her for 2 hours, and I know she wouldn't stay for 2 hours in the 1st place.
Then it dawned on me. I have no clue what this chicas expectations are for getting paid. It was clear when she told me she was staying at City Lights, that she was on the hustle. So I decided to text her and tell her what I usually pay for 2 hours. 1500. I said I would offer 500 more if the service was good. No response to my text. My blondie regular had been blowing up my phone. And I sure wouldn't mind getting with her. We have good chemistry. I set out to see if the chica was at City Lights anyway. I spotted her sitting at the bar, and then I called her.
.That is exactly whay I did on my last trip. I would get a girl's number and tell her I would call her later. I would text her with my address and tell her I will pay 1500 pesos. At that point, its up to her, if she comes thru, great. If she doesn't, then I move on! (only difference is I don't try to bargain for 2 hours because I know the girl is going to run off 5 seconds after I cum).
If I (as a non-German) started hanging out at the German-run bars and chatting up the Haitian girls would that be seen as bad form? It seems that the German guy / Haitian female bond is strong and I'd be making enemies if I tried to chat up a darker chica.Ha-ha! Try to learn the rules of cee-lo, learn some Rammstein lyrics and become a chain smoker!
Now, a serious Rule of this hobby: Follow ze Germans and you will find punters paradise.
Charles Pooter
06-12-14, 13:59
Soon as I was out of the POP terminal I started asking about this verification program of cell sims supposedly going on. 1st guy I spoke to about it was the dominican who is employed at the car rental place. He said it was true, and most of his family did the verification online. Then I talked to my Tourist guide buddy Miguel and he said the same thing. I asked why are they doing it? They both claim that they are implementing a system where they can identify crank callers that abuse emergency services, like the fire department, ambulance, police etc. I think the problem is, there are many sim cards that are bought on the street, often individuals have several cards. Apparently these cards are not readily identifiable to who is using the sim. So they want to rectify that. I suppose any sim that can't be verified will be terminated.
Okay so I went to Orange. The girl there asked for my passport (gave her a copy) and asked me to write down my numbers. She got on her computer terminal for a minute or two, handed my papers and said I was okay. I asked her specifically what happens to people who have sim cards but they are in another country? She said that sim will become terminated and they will have to get a new number. I asked about a deadline, and she said tomorrow June 12 is the deadline. I wanted to ask more questions to make sure I understood everything, but she was busy tending to other anxious customers.Great information.
Did you get the impression that she was just checking that you were already in the system (perhaps because you showed your passport when buying the SIM) or did she have to re-register you?
RocheBrazi
06-12-14, 15:29
I asked her specifically what happens to people who have sim cards but they are in another country? She said that sim will become terminated and they will have to get a new number. I asked about a deadline, and she said tomorrow June 12 is the deadline. I sent a copy of my Bill and my Passport to the orange customer service email adress I wrote here down earlier. But so far I have no response. Not even a automated mail, that they got the mail and it is in progress, like you usually get when you sent a mail to a big company.
I will see tommorow if my sim got terminated or not.
That is exactly whay I did on my last trip. I would get a girl's number and tell her I would call her later. I would text her with my address and tell her I will pay 1500 pesos. At that point, its up to her, if she comes thru, great. If she doesn't, then I move on! (only difference is I don't try to bargain for 2 hours because I know the girl is going to run off 5 seconds after I cum).I don't believe in bargaining time either. But I felt I needed to confirm her expectations vs mine. At that point I wasnt negotiating just confirming where we stood. I was already leaning more towards getting with my Blondie. Her answer worked for me. When a chica comes up with a price like that, I'm inclined not to pursue any further. If she counter-offered later, I still would be inclined not to pursue, because I expect her performance may be sub-par to compensate for what she felt she was sacrificing.
I sent a copy of my Bill and my Passport to the orange customer service email adress I wrote here down earlier. But so far I have no response. Not even a automated mail, that they got the mail and it is in progress, like you usually get when you sent a mail to a big company.
I will see tommorow if my sim got terminated or not.The Orange rep said specifically that I couldn't do it for someone (I didn't even ask her about that, she volunteered that info), they would have to be there. In your case, I doubt what you did will work. I think you will have to be there too. The other thing I'm thinking, everybody that has to get a new number may have to pay for that. It may only be a couple hundred pesos, more or less. But for all that fall in that category, these carriers should get some decent revenue. What is gonna suck, is if you still had credit on your original sim, and end up losing all of it due to the termination.
Great information.
Did you get the impression that she was just checking that you were already in the system (perhaps because you showed your passport when buying the SIM) or did she have to re-register you?I think she was just checking that I was already in the system like you said. It's unlikely she was re-registering me.
Mr Enternational
06-12-14, 16:59
I just came from Claro here in Bonao to verify my phone. When I walked in the lines were quite long. The line to the verification actually went fast. I think it was 10 minutes. However there was already a lady going down the line writing people's names and phone numbers. Since I do not have a Dominican cedula I had to go a different route. She had to copy my passport to the back of the form below and she filled it in. I had to sign at the bottom. Since Showdown had mentioned in the General thread that he is not in country and didn't want to lose his credit, I asked about it.
For those who are not in country call this number today: 1-866-788-6775 and they will take care of you.
Mr Enternational
06-12-14, 17:10
I cannot imagine why street-vendors would want to buy stock from a chain-store, even if it were endlines. It is already expensive and they would need to add at least 50% mark-up to be worth their while (normal mark-up is 100%).
They could buy stuff from the pulga much cheaper. And you can find first-world brands which are much better quality than from La Sirena or Jimenez.
But most street vendors don't even do that. They buy (usually sharing with one or more other vendors unles they have a big trade and plenty of space) a large cube of clothes which has been condensed as in a trash or scrapped-car crusher to make it economical to import from Haiti, as volume costs more than weight. They have no way of knowing what is inside and no doubt half is unsaleable to affluent buyers. That half they give away or sell for a few pesos to Haitians, but the rest they sell for five to ten times the buying price.
I have seen them unload these cubes from the truck. The stuff is so condensed that when they cut the metal bands it almost explodes, and one cube which filled half a smallish truck contains enough clothes to fill a small hall once "liberated".I just passed a store (had Pulgas written various times on the ceiling beams) here in Bonao that has the cubes of clothes that CP mentioned in the quoted post. They are categorized by sex and size (kids or adults). I see in the picture that one cube even says Polo on it. They also had cubes of bed dressing.
I just came from Claro here in Bonao to verify my phone. When I walked in the lines were quite long. The line to the verification actually went fast. I think it was 10 minutes. However there was already a lady going down the line writing people's names and phone numbers. Since I do not have a Dominican cedula I had to go a different route. She had to copy my passport to the back of the form below and she filled it in. I had to sign at the bottom. Since Showdown had mentioned in the General thread that he is not in country and didn't want to lose his credit, I asked about it.
For those who are not in country call this number today: 1-866-788-6775 and they will take care of you.I bought a $ 200 Peso phone from Orange back in November and had to present my Passport to purchase the phone. The phone works fine here, do I need to re-register which doesn't make sense in that I purchased the phone from Orange versus off the street.
RocheBrazi
06-12-14, 17:28
The Orange rep said specifically that I couldn't do it for someone (I didn't even ask her about that, she volunteered that info), they would have to be there. In your case, I doubt what you did will work. I think you will have to be there too. The other thing I'm thinking, everybody that has to get a new number may have to pay for that. It may only be a couple hundred pesos, more or less. But for all that fall in that category, these carriers should get some decent revenue. What is gonna suck, is if you still had credit on your original sim, and end up losing all of it due to the termination.First I sent my DR Novia to Orange. Indeed they told her I have to be there. Then I was contacting Orange on their Facebook Page, because I could not find any contact info on their hompage. There they did answer me pretty quick and told me to sent a email to there costumer care with a copy of Passport and a signed Letter where I write down my DR Phone Numbers. I did sent them what they want to have + added my Bill because I have the Bill here aswell.
But since they did not answer I doubt aswell it will work: p.
Here once again the Answer they sent me on their FB Page:
"Orange Dominicana:
Hola, clientes con pasaporte que estéand fuera del país, deben enviar una carta firmada con la lista de andúmeros de móviles que reconoce, why una copia de su pasaporte, al correo servicio.cliente@orange.com.do".
I just came from Claro here in Bonao to verify my phone. When I walked in the lines were quite long. The line to the verification actually went fast. I think it was 10 minutes. However there was already a lady going down the line writing people's names and phone numbers. Since I do not have a Dominican cedula I had to go a different route. She had to copy my passport to the back of the form below and she filled it in. I had to sign at the bottom. Since Showdown had mentioned in the General thread that he is not in country and didn't want to lose his credit, I asked about it.
For those who are not in country call this number today: 1-866-788-6775 and they will take care of you.Is that number good for Claro customers only?
Ipanema Carioca
06-12-14, 18:11
LOL. I don't have any "Jungle Fever" fantasy. I'm just going by what I've just seen over the past 6 days. If I saw a Haitian walking or sitting with a guy he would almost always be heard speaking with a German accent and this would occur at one of the places that seem to cater to German ex-pats. It was my first short term trip to Sosua and this was rather consistent. Problem was I saw more than a few I liked but did not see one black gringo with a Haitian girl. I guess my point is that I was trying to watch for those hidden and rarely spoken about social codes that rookies like myself tend to miss.I think you should go to Sosua and not worry about such "social" codes. I'm black and all of my friends are except 1 or 2 white guys who are not uptight about being around blacks. But to your observations, if you go around expat Germans you will see them with Dominican or Haitians, and if you go around black gringos you will see us with Haitians or Dominican chicas. I fuck with them both, but I have a tendency to go wight he Haitians with the better bodies. Now there are short time hoes and long term cup cake girls. You need to figure that out.
Be careful who you sleep with because a friend lost a cheap Harley Davidson watch and other items. I got into it with a crazy Haitian and had to call security to throw her out of my room. She got no money. She bluffed and asked security for the police, as she throw a cup of black label on the floor. Then the hoe tried to pour herself another and I snatched the bottle out of her hand and told security I want this crazy hoe out of my room. Then I added this hoe has no passport because the police got it, so call them so you can verify that. The hoe left, but I loudly offered her 200 pesos. She yelled "that ain't no money. ".
I bought a $ 200 Peso phone from Orange back in November and had to present my Passport to purchase the phone. The phone works fine here, do I need to re-register which doesn't make sense in that I purchased the phone from Orange versus off the street.I believe there is a lot of information on this, that the carriers don't want the general public to know. There is a very good possibility many sims that were initially acquired with a passport or cedula will not be shut off. At least not in an instant of the deadline. My gut tells me, the deadline was made just to get people motivated to act quickly.
Over the next several weeks and months they may have a plan of going through computer records to rule out those numbers acquired with identification, from those that werent. Perhaps those will be the ones they will shut down 1st?
For those who are not in country call this number today: 1-866-788-6775 and they will take care of you.A friend of mine back in the states called that number. He was told he has to bring his passport to a Claro office, they can't do anything for him over the phone.
I believe there is a lot of information on this, that the carriers don't want the general public to know. There is a very good possibility many sims that were initially acquired with a passport or cedula will not be shut off. At least not in an instant of the deadline. My gut tells me, the deadline was made just to get people motivated to act quickly.
Over the next several weeks and months they may have a plan of going through computer records to rule out those numbers acquired with identification, from those that werent. Perhaps those will be the ones they will shut down 1st?Was changing money and saw a long line in the Orange office in Sosua, This was the same office I bought my phone back in November with my Passport. They told me it didn't matter that I would have to re-register. There were about 20 people in line but the receptionist asked for my Passport of which I had a photocopy of, looked me up in the system, hit some buttons and said I was good to go and didn't even have to wait in line. I guess I got lucky for some reason. However after that I went to the SuperPlayero market and there were lines for both Claro and Orange and in talking with someone in the Orange line was told that the Claro customers had to get a PIN Number or something after showing their I'd versus the Orange customers not having to do that. I just contacted two of my girls to make sure they had registered their phones. A real screwy deal to lose your phone number and any minutes you have. Sounds similar to Mexico which did this a few years ago.
I went to the SuperPlayero market and there were lines for both Claro and Orange and in talking with someone in the Orange line was told that the Claro customers had to get a PIN Number or something after showing their I'd versus the Orange customers not having to do that. I just contacted two of my girls to make sure they had registered their phones. A real screwy deal to lose your phone number and any minutes you have. Sounds similar to Mexico which did this a few years ago.I was just coming back here to report the long lines (for Claro and Orange) at the Playero. Maybe I saw you there while I was shopping? I am glad I took care of it yesterday early in the afternoon.
A friend of mine back in the states called that number. He was told he has to bring his passport to a Claro office, they can't do anything for him over the phone.I thought of a workaround. But it has to be done today. Lets say two individuals can pass for each other or look very similar. A person can fax or email a copy of their passport to someone who prints it out in the DR. The receiver goes to the carrier to verify the number for that person. I think it could work.
RocheBrazi
06-12-14, 21:23
I thought of a workaround. But it has to be done today. Lets say two individuals can pass for each other or look very similar. A person can fax or email a copy of their passport to someone who prints it out in the DR. The receiver goes to the carrier to verify the number for that person. I think it could work.Nope.
My DR Novia was at a big Orange Store on Wednesday with a Copy of the Bill of the purchase from my sim card (on which was my Passport Number) + a Copy of my Passport and they told her I have to show up myself.
The Niece of my Novia could verify the Sim which i bought 1 Year Ago on the Claro Hompage using the cedula of her Mother. Which is a Farce becuae for sure now, when she would do something illegal with it she could be tracked, or the Mother, but the Sim itself could be stolen because she was not the First owner of it.
MY Novia can not verify the sim i have right now at orange with her cedula or Cedulas of her Family. We tried various possiblilitys
Nope.
My DR Novia was at a big Orange Store on Wednesday with a Copy of the Bill of the purchase from my sim card (on which was my Passport Number) + a Copy of my Passport and they told her I have to show up myself.
The Niece of my Novia could verify the Sim which i bought 1 Year Ago on the Claro Hompage using the cedula of her Mother. Which is a Farce becuae for sure now, when she would do something illegal with it she could be tracked, or the Mother, but the Sim itself could be stolen because she was not the First owner of it.
MY Novia can not verify the sim i have right now at orange with her cedula or Cedulas of her Family. We tried various possiblilitysYeah but did you understand the criterior I suggested? I said the person would have to look very similiar or could pass for the other person. You are male and I am relatively certain your DR novia is female? Do you and her look that much alike? I can see why they turned her away. I'm talking about two individuals that look alike or could pass for each other, of the same gender. LOL. I wouldnt try it or dont think it would work if both people can easily be distinguished apart.
Anyone know the date of the festival they have every September this year?
RocheBrazi
06-12-14, 21:53
Yeah but did you understand the criterior I suggested? I said the person would have to look very similiar or could pass for the other person. You are male and I am relatively certain your DR novia is female? Do you and her look that much alike? I can see why they turned her away. I'm talking about two individuals that look alike or could pass for each other, of the same gender. LOL. I wouldnt try it or dont think it would work if both people can easily be distinguished apart.Haha sorry. I missed the look similar part.
And no worries we both look very different. Man breasts in the size of my GF Breasts are physically not possible.
I was just coming back here to report the long lines (for Claro and Orange) at the Playero. Maybe I saw you there while I was shopping? I am glad I took care of it yesterday early in the afternoon.Walked by Orange office 20 minutes ago and over 50 people in line.
Charles Pooter
06-12-14, 23:18
Walked by Orange office 20 minutes ago and over 50 people in line.Apparently you don't have to go to a main office. My gf just registered hers at Orange in Caribe Tours. In line for 20 minutes but would have taken much longer at the main Orange office.
Deportation of foreigners involved in the sex trade.
http://www.diariolibre.com/noticias/2014/06/12/i653651_deportarn-extranjeros-dedicados-explotacin-sexual-boca-chica.html
The sims purchased via claro or orange with proper I'd are fine. The sims purchased with no I'd are the troublesome ones. The country has just implemented a 911 emergency system and want to have each phone identified as to who the owner is. They had a campaign to educate the public about using 911 for non emergencies and for prank calls. If you prank 911 you can be fined a lot of money, something like 1/2 a years pay.
If they don't have a phone registered to a person they will cut the line. I have 2 phones, 1 claro and 1 orange. The orange is fully legit, the claro was bought off the street. The claro chip will most likely be cut off by the end of the week.
The sims purchased via claro or orange with proper I'd are fine. The sims purchased with no I'd are the troublesome ones.
If they don't have a phone registered to a person they will cut the line. I have 2 phones, 1 claro and 1 orange. The orange is fully legit, the claro was bought off the street. The claro chip will most likely be cut off by the end of the week.I'm willing to bet those who purchased sims with proper should be fine. But does that mean after verification or the verification doesnt matter for those individuals? Scores of people have been going to offices for verification whether they bought off the street or not. So are you saying the verification is unnecessary for those who know their sims were registered properly? The other thing is, could there be instances where the company screwed up in keeping up with many of their registered customers? Thus requiring re-verification.
Tempoecorto
06-13-14, 05:12
I left from the airport in Santo Domingo headed to the north coast. Excellent and detailed fact based report which will benefit others. I am glad you were not harmed any which way. I also wonder if the experience would have been different had the other party been a Dominican instead of a Canadian as I understood the other driver was.
I spoke to a guy in my gym who is a real pro. He travels all over central and south America. He has been everywhere and done it all. I saw him in the gym and he was raving about Sosua last week. He said girls were coming in by the bus loads from all over the island. When this guy is impressed I have to pay attention. He was paying 1000 to 1500 pesos for quality women.
Camaro1257
06-13-14, 14:45
Sosua Clubs.
I am in Sosua now and will be leaving for Nagua in a few for the weekend and will return to Sosua Monday. Recent intel is as follows:
The waiter at the Latins told me last night this was his last night and all the clubs would be closed with the exception of Classicos and After One. He did not specify about the east end clubs on Pedro Clisante like Rancho Tipico.
I will post a detailed report on Sosua and Nagua when I return.
Sosua Clubs.
I am in Sosua now and will be leaving for Nagua in a few for the weekend and will return to Sosua Monday. Recent intel is as follows:
The waiter at the Latins told me last night this was his last night and all the clubs would be closed with the exception of Classicos and After One. He did not specify about the east end clubs on Pedro Clisante like Rancho Tipico.
I will post a detailed report on Sosua and Nagua when I return.Last night on the Strip I was talking to two Chicas that told me that the President had ordered the closing of all the Bars in both Sosua and Cabarette effective today!
I find this hard to believe as tourism in Sosua would come to a halt. Does anybody reallly know the truth about all this?
Last night on the Strip I was talking to two Chicas that told me that the President had ordered the closing of all the Bars in both Sosua and Cabarette effective today!
I find this hard to believe as tourism in Sosua would come to a halt. Does anybody reallly know the truth about all this?I was talking to the snack vender Henry (he is setup on the corner where the latins and winners circle meet). He was talking about Rumba and the latins closing. What wasnt clear to me was if this was just for Friday, the weekend or indefinitely?
It was interesting seeing the strip street closed to traffic but open to all pedestrians instead. The neighboring corners and streets were overflowing with parked cars and motos, since the strip was blocked off. Was in Rumba up to about 12 last night. Many vet chicas and many new to me chicas around. All looking hungry for clients. Problem though I suspect many of them think they can still get 3 k and up. So they may look good but chances are you are only going to get some hustler up in your spot, not somebody who is going to represent herself well. If they can, they may want to finish you off quickly and get back out there to find another client. But that's all theory on my part. YMMD.
If these closings are true, chicas and mongers are going to have to make some adjustments for hookups. Perhaps theyll be more action on the beach. This is where having established contacts may be a good thing.
Chris Bigdog
06-14-14, 01:26
Let's hear it from the guys on the ground.
I was talking to the snack vender Henry (he is setup on the corner where the latins and winners circle meet). He was talking about Rumba and the latins closing. What wasnt clear to me was if this was just for Friday, the weekend or indefinitely?
It was interesting seeing the strip street closed to traffic but open to all pedestrians instead. The neighboring corners and streets were overflowing with parked cars and motos, since the strip was blocked off. Was in Rumba up to about 12 last night. Many vet chicas and many new to me chicas around. All looking hungry for clients. Problem though I suspect many of them think they can still get 3 k and up. So they may look good but chances are you are only going to get some hustler up in your spot, not somebody who is going to represent herself well. If they can, they may want to finish you off quickly and get back out there to find another client. But that's all theory on my part. YMMD.
If these closings are true, chicas and mongers are going to have to make some adjustments for hookups. Perhaps theyll be more action on the beach. This is where having established contacts may be a good thing.
Sosua Clubs.
I am in Sosua now and will be leaving for Nagua in a few for the weekend and will return to Sosua Monday. Recent intel is as follows:
The waiter at the Latins told me last night this was his last night and all the clubs would be closed with the exception of Classicos and After One. He did not specify about the east end clubs on Pedro Clisante like Rancho Tipico.
I will post a detailed report on Sosua and Nagua when I return.This is freaking crazy!!
I started going to Sosua back when Classicos was king and the number one attraction. I already brought my ticket for a trip in September I'd like to get a gauge of what to expect and get my game plan in order. I have a few chick numbers and my goto Chica's in Sosua and Puerto Plata.
I always say a bad Chica day in DR is better than a good day in the USA LOL.
This Saturday at 8 pm there will be a cultural event on PC strip. Don't buy any waiters rumours please, the waiters will stay poor and the owners continue to make money and pay off.
Classico's is / was open. Sexy dolled up chicas showed up to enter like the old days. Merenge Bar was filled up with patrons like it used to be. Plenty of chicas in there. The'LATINS closed. Rumba's wide open and in full effect. Plenty of chicas in there. Including the 5 inch heeled chicas passing through on their way to Classico's. Strip (Pedro Clisante) still closed to vehicular traffic between Dr Rosen (corner where Rumbas is) all the way down to Sinatra's restaurant. This is done in the evening. Don't know if it is true, but a unsubstantiated source claims the'Latins may be closed for 2 weeks. They said it might have something to do with the owner not making some sort of payment? Who knows? But what I do know, it was closed Friday night. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Last night on the Strip I was talking to two Chicas that told me that the President had ordered the closing of all the Bars in both Sosua and Cabarette effective today!
I find this hard to believe as tourism in Sosua would come to a halt. Does anybody reallly know the truth about all this?As far as Sosua, that info about bars being closed the day in question, was / is false as for Friday June 13 into Sat June 14. The only bar I saw closed was The Latin Drink (the latins). El Flow, Winners Circle, Bermuda, Merenge,Bar Central and many others were open as usual. Drove down PC towards Passions and all of the bars down there were open as well and relatively full. If anything changes, I will report what I see.
Classico's is / was open. Sexy dolled up chicas showed up to enter like the old days. Merenge Bar was filled up with patrons like it used to be. Plenty of chicas in there. The'LATINS closed. Rumba's wide open and in full effect. Plenty of chicas in there. Including the 5 inch heeled chicas passing through on their way to Classico's. Strip (Pedro Clisante) still closed to vehicular traffic between Dr Rosen (corner where Rumbas is) all the way down to Sinatra's restaurant. This is done in the evening. Don't know if it is true, but a unsubstantiated source claims the'Latins may be closed for 2 weeks. They said it might have something to do with the owner not making some sort of payment? Who knows? But what I do know, it was closed Friday night. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.Very interesting. And thanks for reporting. I remember one time when me and BBL and Mr E walked into Dlatins and Willie came over to me and said he had just purchased Classicos and Merengue. I thought at the time that they were just buying out the competiton but with the new developments I think differently.
Willie, the vise deputy to the mayor, also used to run the infamous Latinos. It was owned by a Canadian guy and Willie was the front man. Remember they put up the windows then took them down? Well latinos is now a dusty, empty space as Willie moved on to Dlatins. I heard the Canadian owner of Latinos died and the two sons didn't want to keep investing in the business, the payoff money dried up and now Latinos is history.
Now we see the comeback of Classicos and Dlatins closed. Maybe the owners of Dlatins balked at the payoff money and Willie had a backup plan with Classicos. Damn! The Dominicans don't play when it comes to their payout money. The owners of Dlatins have a choice of either continuing to pay the money or lose all the money they have invested so far, damn. Either way, you don't want to compete with a resurrected Classicos.
I know that all of the girls out at the bars on a weekend night are working and available.
But when you weed out the 5's and 6's who are grabbing at you what is the best way to approach the aloof, fine girls who are certain to quote a higher price?
I'm guessing that most guys stick to their offer range even after repeatedly getting shot down with the hopes that the "no" chica will mosey back your way later with a "yes" if her business is slow.
My fear, of course, is that by driving a hard bargain and waiting I get to see the true honeys walk out of the bar / disco with other fellas as the night grows old.
Any advice for this newbie?
Found a posting on DR1. It's from a poster claiming he knew the individual that was killed, and his account of what supposedly happened to him. Figured this info would give those interested some food for thought, since earlier reports or accounts one would get the impression the victim had a personal problem with a chica he was with.
6/12/2014.
"For everyone else. To get this sorted out. What the papers missed.
He was coming out of the casino. And money fell out of his pocket when he was reaching for his keys. He got jumped by 3 people who beat him up. Yes one of the girls was a hooker but she was from the casino and not with him. He was rushed to the hospital. Where he had a heart attack at the hospital in Puerto Plata.
How do I know this. He was a close friend of mine and my dad's. ".
Classico's is / was open. Sexy dolled up chicas showed up to enter like the old days. Merenge Bar was filled up with patrons like it used to be. Plenty of chicas in there. The'LATINS closed. Rumba's wide open and in full effect. Plenty of chicas in there. Including the 5 inch heeled chicas passing through on their way to Classico's. Strip (Pedro Clisante) still closed to vehicular traffic between Dr Rosen (corner where Rumbas is) all the way down to Sinatra's restaurant. This is done in the evening. Don't know if it is true, but a unsubstantiated source claims the'Latins may be closed for 2 weeks. They said it might have something to do with the owner not making some sort of payment? Who knows? But what I do know, it was closed Friday night. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.We all knew that Classico's was King. I was told last week that this would happen. They stated that Rumba's or the'Latins would be closed on Friday. I figured it would be the'Latins because Bobby has too many connections and too much money to get shut down. Personally I think it was the plan from the beginning. Classico's has been closed for 1 1/2 yrs now, and we all know Amando runs Sosua and had his hands in the'Latins pockets anyway. Willie was just a front man for the'Latins, not the "real man". Personally, I hope it stays this way. I use to loved seeing those chicas come "dressed to the 9's" to get in to Classico's, and it will also drive the cost of service down because of the average to below avg. Girls not being able to get in to Classico's. It was a matter of time, and I personally hope some of the Sosua I loved is back for good. Peace.
Mr Enternational
06-15-14, 01:58
Just touched down in Sosua. I have never seen it this busy. The old Dominos bar is up and hoppin. Four Roses is closed. Walking towards the strip and an older chick (38 years old and looks like one of my aunts) stopped me to talk saying she was up on the strip looking for a job but nobody is hiring so she is going back home now. Standing here talking to her. When I first drove up I ran into Tomjackin's girl Angie (the one who made him get an extra chick then balked) and got her info. Really would like to end up with her LT tonight. (Update: Spoke too damn soon. Meeting bad biotches left and right.) There is tons on offer though. If you can't get some pussy or have a bad time here then something is wrong.
I know that all of the girls out at the bars on a weekend night are working and available.
But when you weed out the 5's and 6's who are grabbing at you what is the best way to approach the aloof, fine girls who are certain to quote a higher price?
I'm guessing that most guys stick to their offer range even after repeatedly getting shot down with the hopes that the "no" chica will mosey back your way later with a "yes" if her business is slow.
My fear, of course, is that by driving a hard bargain and waiting I get to see the true honeys walk out of the bar / disco with other fellas as the night grows old.
Any advice for this newbie?First of all, all girls are different, so you have to approach them differently. How is your swag? Do you speak any Spanish? I go by the old saying if you like the way the diamond looks, then buy it. I don't know what you consider a "fine" girl is but if you don't know them don't do TLN. That will help you with the price and you will find out how the chicas service is. Secondly, you have to be confident when approaching these chicas. If they sense that your unsure than that's when the "games" starts and you will get quoted a higher price or have some type of BS pulled on you. Man you in Sosua, the Disney Land for mongers. You are King here so act like it, but don't be too cocky. Enjoy. Peace.
Mr Enternational
06-15-14, 04:19
Didn't get to post the pics to go with my last report because the internet was slow on my cell phone. One is Tomjackin's old chick. The other was another chick that I liked who came up to me in front of El Flow. Got her number, but don't know if I will call her. Her toes are too short. And my experience with chicks with short toes is that their pussy isn't as good as chicks with long toes; especially chicks who have the second toe longer than the big toe. Also there was a show going on in the street, which could be the reason the'Latin is closed as their music is known to be extra loud and would interfere with the concert.
First of all, all girls are different, so you have to approach them differently. How is your swag? Do you speak any Spanish? I go by the old saying if you like the way the diamond looks, then buy it. I don't know what you consider a "fine" girl is but if you don't know them don't do TLN. That will help you with the price and you will find out how the chicas service is. Secondly, you have to be confident when approaching these chicas. If they sense that your unsure than that's when the "games" starts and you will get quoted a higher price or have some type of BS pulled on you. Man you in Sosua, the Disney Land for mongers. You are King here so act like it, but don't be too cocky. Enjoy. Peace.Well put! My man well put!
Her toes are too short. And my experience with chicks with short toes is that their pussy isn't as good as chicks with long toes; especially chicks who have the second toe longer than the big toe. .You know I am going to observe from now on right!
Mr Enternational
06-15-14, 05:44
Damn internet keeps going out. Pics still didn't post. Will just have to do it tomorrow along with 2 other reports that didn't post either.
Mr Enternational
06-15-14, 07:25
Just came from the strip. Loads of chicas. Put a couple on layaway for tomorrow though because I'm on the way to my girl's house in Puerto Plata. She said it was too late for her to drive out here alone. Tomjackin's girl just followed me half way home. She started at 4000 TLN then went to 3000. I told her I would give her 1800 tomorrow for TLN. That means the other chick I made an arrangement with I will have to hit her during the day. Even though I'm supposed to be with another of my Puerto Plata girls tomorrow. Shit. My Puerto Plata girl just said it's already 3 so let's wait until tomorrow. Called Tomjackin's girl and she is on the way now.
Mr Enternational
06-15-14, 07:37
i was sitting at a bar drinking a santo libre and watching the concert when a chick walked by. i stopped her to talk to her. she said she was from santiago. her hair was laid, her feet were good, but the polish was peeling off her fingernails. i called her on it. one of my methods of meeting non-pros who think they are the shit or who i think is the shit, is pointing out something about them they may be self-conscious of. i don't put them on a pedestal. i break them down then scoop them up. i just transferred a little bit of it over to the monger world.
i asked how much it would take to fix her nails. she said she would go do it tomorrow but she didn't have any money to get it done previously. i told her i wanted to contribute and asked her how much it would take for her to come to the room with me for a little while. she said 2500 pesos. as usual, i laughed. she said how much will you give me. i said 1000. she said for how much time. i said just a little bit because i wanted to get someone for the rest of the night later. she agreed to the 1000 then asked me to buy her a beer. i told her we would stop by the colmado to get her one (because i knew she would forget once we were walking to the room.).
during the walk i found out that she had a 2 month old kid. yippeeee. those jugs must be full of milk. so now i will be the one saying dame tu leche! we got back to the room and showered together. when we got out i relaxed on the bed and immediately she started with bbbj. keep in mind that i'm not a guy who negotiates every act. i believe in going with the flow and letting things happen naturally. i'm not a bj man by any standards even know i have been known to squirt into a few mouths. i like to be up in those guts, but old girl was a true head doctor. i complemented her on her skills.
we started off in missionary. i noticed she had a technique where she would tighten her ass and thigh muscles instead of pushing me back with her hands so i couldn't go all the way up in her. i made her relax that shit. it was a decent session even though she tried to pull the "you are too aggressive" card. i explained to her that we are not novios. it's okay to tell your boyfriend that because he is supposed to do everything to your liking. but i am a customer. you are here to please me. if you want to make money then you need to learn how to stop complaining and be an actress. i told her that i wanted her to make a lot of money, but at the rate she was going if she kept doing the same with other customers then word is going to get around and nobody is going to want to go with her. she said, but all women are different. i said yes, but you can't be different when you go to work. if you worked at burger king and a customer wanted a burger a certain way you can't say no all of the workers here are different and i don't like to make it that way. i told her that if it was some outlandish shit then she had the right to protest, but she needed to learn to put up with different guys' sexual habits.
i took your girl to school in more ways than one then gave her 1000 pesos and let her leave. as soon as she left my stomach started killing me. i don't know if it was the drink from the bar or the breast milk! good thing i had probiotic with me. i'm about to hit the strip again. 1500 lt is the most i'm prepared to pay.
First of all, all girls are different, so you have to approach them differently. How is your swag? Do you speak any Spanish? I go by the old saying if you like the way the diamond looks, then buy it. I don't know what you consider a "fine" girl is but if you don't know them don't do TLN. That will help you with the price and you will find out how the chicas service is. Secondly, you have to be confident when approaching these chicas. If they sense that your unsure than that's when the "games" starts and you will get quoted a higher price or have some type of BS pulled on you. Man you in Sosua, the Disney Land for mongers. You are King here so act like it, but don't be too cocky. Enjoy. Peace.Thanks. I am an older dude so I don't have any "swag" (whatever that is) and I don't speak much Spanish. So I guess I'm just going to keep learning Spanish and act cocky and stick to my 1500 peso limit.
Even if 99 chicas reject this method there are another 99 in the area so it shouldn't be a problem.
there was a show going on in the street, which could be the reason the'Latin is closed as their music is known to be extra loud and would interfere with the concert.That would account for last night (Saturday night). But what about Friday night? There was no concert that night. And it was closed all night. I'm sure a lot of money would have been made too. BTW how was the concert? I was occupied with a DC contact and kept her away from the strip.
ConquerorVal
06-15-14, 14:45
I explained to her that we are not novios. But I am a customer. You are here to please me. If you want to make money then you need to learn how to stop complaining and be an actress. . If you worked at Burger King and a customer wanted a burger a certain way you can't say no all of the workers here are different and I don't like to make it that way. I told her that if it was some outlandish shit then she had the right to protest, but she needed to learn to put up with different guys' sexual habits. I took your girl to school in more ways than one then gave her 1000 pesos and let her leave. 1500 LT is the most I'm prepared to pay.I guess there are hardcore working girls and hardcore mongers like you! You know what you want and you get it Nice reporting and photos.
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