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Funny you should write that. In my early years here I used to visit Sosua a lot with the Godfather of Mongering. When "interviewing" a chica, normally haitianas, he would check out their hands. If they had soft, well-kept, hands he would reject them because it meant they earned their living on their backs. Those with rough hands were doing "real" work for a living and were therefore more likely to be appreciative of anything you gave them and honest (or, at least, less acquainted with the underworld of pimps, dealers, and cops).
Rough feet of course come from walking barefoot in the Haitian countryside.For yourself today, if you find Haitianas with rough hands or feet can that be a turn off for you?
Thank for the psychoanalysis, professor.
But, again, get your facts straight, I was here at least 5 years ago (check "Reports of Distinction".
(For the record it should be noted that my comments are restricted to statements you have made and my opinions on same. Nothing personal.
I, on the other hand have been accused by you of lacking the judgement to understand other people, and making things up. Very personal.).
I decided to take a stroll back in memory lane. And look what I find? The same thing you did with me, you did to a few posters in the GoGo forum. They were talking about guys sending money to chicas, and the dangers of it. Not one soul was talking about you, but you felt compelled to butt in because you felt slighted in their discussion of sending money to the DR.
The pattern is exactly the same as when I was sharing with Surfer500 over the enjoyment of chicas. Then you came in broadcasting your defense for other mongers, which was really you protecting your own interest (inadequacies). LOOK!
Western Union seems to be the topic of the day, again.
Well, you guys are all having a ball at the expense of those "suckers" who send money to the DR. Patting yourselves on the back.
Enjoy!
I know guys who denigrate other guys who pay for sex. They can't figure out why you pay for something G*the made for free, much less spend thousands of dollars travelling half way around the world just to fuck a ho.
But we know that every guy who pays for sex does it for his own reasons. To him it's worth it.
Likewise sending money to DR.
If those transfer numbers are correct there are a lot of loose, close, and semi close relationships that are being maintained. Sure, there are ripoffs, but that anecdotal stuff is not the norm. There is legitimate value being exchanged. He may be investing in an exclusive GFE with one of the few people he is compatable with, maybe one of the few people who can make it all happen for him. As well, there may be other tangible value in having a well connected lover.
Only if it goes bad, and he still sends money is he an idiot, but I would think that when she stiffs him one way or the other, the money stops.
Signed.
Western Union NovioSo my man. It is personal. Nobody attacks you , it isnt necessary. Because you take certain posts personally, as if they are talking about you. In your head, they are being derisive and disparaging to other mongers (you and the ones you are on a crusade to protect). I'll bet if I called you on that back then, you would deflect and talk in circles exactly like you did with me. At least one member back then stroked your ego and made you feel all better. Your transparent bro! Very transparent. LOL. How many times do I have to say this? We can only think in one head. Nobody should have to adjust their posts to accommodate each others sensitivities on this board.
I decided to take a stroll back in memory lane. And look what I find? The same thing you did with me, you did to a few posters in the GoGo forum. They were talking about guys sending money to chicas, and the dangers of it. Not one soul was talking about you, but you felt compelled to butt in because you felt slighted in their discussion of sending money to the DR.
The pattern is exactly the same as when I was sharing with Surfer500 over the enjoyment of chicas. Then you came in broadcasting your defense for other mongers, which was really you protecting your own interest (inadequacies). LOOK!
So my man. It is personal. Nobody attacks you , it isnt necessary. Because you take certain posts personally, as if they are talking about you. In your head, they are being derisive and disparaging to other mongers (you and the ones you are on a crusade to protect). I'll bet if I called you on that back then, you would deflect and talk in circles exactly like you did with me. At least one member back then stroked your ego and made you feel all better. Your transparent bro! Very transparent. LOL. How many times do I have to say this? We can only think in one head. Nobody should have to adjust their posts to accommodate each others sensitivities on this board.Enough is enough. How about a cease fire, a funny trip report, a steamy trip report, some useful information, etc. Instead of all this bickering back and and forth.
Enough is enough. How about a cease fire, a funny trip report, a steamy trip report, some useful information, etc. Instead of all this bickering back and and forth.Now did you read my last trip report? And my comments related to Haitiana's?
Now did you read my last trip report? And my comments related to Haitiana's?Yes I read your reports, and your saggy tit knowledge is limited I must say. Hopefully you and Oakie wiil cease the hostilities and keep your reports forthcoming as so will I. Also, please sample some more Haitians so you can complete my survey! I'm currently packing for a three day trip to Tijuana to bang some Mexican dogs. When I leave my house I will be there in two hours and have a stable of regulars I can bang, but Tijuana is no Sosua!
Let's call it, "I know more that you!
Or, "This is how I roll, you should too!
Or, "You don't know a fucking thing, and I know everything!
Please stop wasting our time with these useless posts!
Yes I read your reports, and your saggy tit knowledge is limited I must say. Hopefully you and Oakie wiil cease the hostilities and keep your reports forthcoming as so will I. Also, please sample some more Haitians so you can complete my survey! I'm currently packing for a three day trip to Tijuana to bang some Mexican dogs. When I leave my house I will be there in two hours and have a stable of regulars I can bang, but Tijuana is no Sosua!Reports are going to come regardless of what transpires on this board. Sometimes this forum takes detours. We can't expect there never to be no deviations from posting reports. It can get a little argumentative at times, no big deal. When it blows over, it's done.
Now as far as Haitian chicas go, there is one I have my eye on that interests me. She has a nice round ass, and has the largest overbite I have ever seen. In spite of that overbite, I still think she is kinda sexy. I'm sure some guys here might know who I mean. Oh yeah, there is another chica that hangs out at Rancho Tipico. She has a pretty nice ass too. A few of them in there are into other women, but will do p4 p with men. And again my issue with enough Haitian women I have observed, is finding ones that appeal to me. Many of the ones I've seen walking around, look hard. Some are fashion challenged. I like the way many dominican women put it together (clothes, hair, makeup). There is a Haitian chica that works at a massage place. Now she has all the attributes. Haven't been with her. Thats my buddies regular.
Tempoecorto
06-28-14, 22:16
I was actually trying to figure out ITBIS on my recent trip. So can you help clarify for me? I ate at Baileys and the German schnitzel place downtown and they both had the 18% ITBIS added to me bill before I declared how I was going to pay. I of course paid cash but paid the total including the ITBIS and left a tip. Did I over pay? Was I not required to pay the ITBIS since I paid cash? If you pay cash and ITBIS is it just like free money for the owner or server? I also ate at the la familia place and had no ITBIS on my bill. I was just starting to think it was a gringo or tourist tax.Well I am no expert on the DR taxes (the residents should chip in) but theoretically ALL businesses are supposed to charge ITBIS (VAT equivalent) running at 18% and at times (if there is service rendered) a 10% service tax. Now many businesses simply do not declare income as is common in many third world economies and so they get away without charging the 18%. This would not happen in the larger and more reputable stores. For example at a super market where taxes are automatically added on (or already included in the price you see) and so no, it is not a tourist / gringo tax.
BTW, it is also not certain that when the business collects the tax, they are going to declare it as in your case at the Austrian place / Bailey -paid in cash. All I wanted to say is the moment a credit card is used, it is traceable and hence automatically 18% needs to be tagged on. I for example use my credit card only for car rental in the DR and I cannot get away from the hefty 18% but I am told that there are local rentals where you pay cash and no question of paying the 18% is raised.
By the way, the schnitzel place is my favorite for dinner and breakfast (great variety of bread) but I cannot recall about the ITBIS bit.
A general physical checkup is very helpful.
Don't forget to look at the teeth.
I always bring disposable toothbrushes with me.
Or would anyone here buy a dirty car.
For yourself today, if you find Haitianas with rough hands or feet can that be a turn off for you?
Ipanema Carioca
06-29-14, 00:31
Let's call it, "I know more that you!
Or, "This is how I roll, you should too!
Or, "You don't know a fucking thing, and I know everything!
Please stop wasting our time with these useless posts!LOL! You have a strong point and a strong case for this new thread.
Reports are going to come regardless of what transpires on this board. Sometimes this forum takes detours. We can't expect there never to be no deviations from posting reports. It can get a little argumentative at times, no big deal. When it blows over, it's done.
Now as far as Haitian chicas go, there is one I have my eye on that interests me. She has a nice round ass, and has the largest overbite I have ever seen. In spite of that overbite, I still think she is kinda sexy. I'm sure some guys here might know who I mean. Oh yeah, there is another chica that hangs out at Rancho Tipico. She has a pretty nice ass too. A few of them in there are into other women, but will do p4 p with men. And again my issue with enough Haitian women I have observed, is finding ones that appeal to me. Many of the ones I've seen walking around, look hard. Some are fashion challenged. I like the way many dominican women put it together (clothes, hair, makeup). There is a Haitian chica that works at a massage place. Now she has all the attributes. Haven't been with her. Thats my buddies regular.I call the one with the overbite "Buck Tooth Haitian". She has an incredible body and a good personality. Never had a chance to explore the territory because the situation never has really presented itself, but I would take her in a heartbeat. Peace.
Funny you should write that. In my early years here I used to visit Sosua a lot with the Godfather of Mongering. When "interviewing" a chica, normally haitianas, he would check out their hands. If they had soft, well-kept, hands he would reject them because it meant they earned their living on their backs. Those with rough hands were doing "real" work for a living and were therefore more likely to be appreciative of anything you gave them and honest (or, at least, less acquainted with the underworld of pimps, dealers, and cops).
Rough feet of course come from walking barefoot in the Haitian countryside.ROTFLMAO!
You guys are Nucking Futz.
I call the one with the overbite "Buck Tooth Haitian". She has an incredible body and a good personality. Never had a chance to explore the territory because the situation never has really presented itself, but I would take her in a heartbeat. Peace.Would her name happen to be Lovely?
Would her name happen to be Lovely?You can't miss her, she's wears an eye patch!
Ipanema Carioca
06-29-14, 06:13
You can't miss her, she's wears an eye patch!This is Lovely. She can't fuck and her pussy stinks! Fuck her at your own risk. She walks around Sosua, speaks little English. One of the bad misrepresentation of Haitian females. You can see her waist in this photo that was hidden when I pulled her and I was disappointed. She sucked my dick and cum on her saggy tits.
Mr Enternational
06-29-14, 06:20
BTW, it is also not certain that when the business collects the tax, they are going to declare it as in your case at the Austrian place / Bailey -paid in cash. All I wanted to say is the moment a credit card is used, it is traceable and hence automatically 18% needs to be tagged on. I for example use my credit card only for car rental in the DR and I cannot get away from the hefty 18% but I am told that there are local rentals where you pay cash and no question of paying the 18% is raised.Going through receipts of various hotels, when the price was given it was always inclusive of any taxes there may have been whether I was paying cash or credit. They didn't do like the restaurants and car rental places and try to add it on at the end of the given price. I think the foreign-owned Sosua hotels are the only ones who play that using a credit card is going to cost you more than it will paying cash game. In other parts of the country the same price has held no matter the method of payment.
P.S. One good thing about Colombia is that when you are a foreigner staying in a hotel, you don't have to pay the taxes, but a local does. On the flip side is that you pay for most rooms there depending on how many people are staying in it.
This is Lovely. She can't fuck and her pussy stinks! Fuck her at your own risk. She walks around Sosua, speaks little English. One of the bad misrepresentation of Haitian females. You can see her waist in this photo that was hidden when I pulled her and I was disappointed. She sucked my dick and cum on her saggy tits.Damn, things must have changed in the past year. I fucked Lovely a few times and she was pretty good. She never could suck a dick, but she was a good fuck and had a world class ass! One of the absolute best asses I have ever seen in Sousa.
Ipanema Carioca
06-29-14, 06:50
Damn, things must have changed in the past year. I fucked Lovely a few times and she was pretty good. She never could suck a dick, but she was a good fuck and had a world class ass! One of the absolute best asses I have ever seen in Sousa.This must be an old photo. She had a biig ass with butt funk. I wouldn't fuck her again. Buyer beware!!!
So what's new in Sosua? I'm excited to be back next weekend for a quick stop (just a couple days like usual) and will be trying out Classico's. I had never been to the old Classico's as it was always closed. This is also the first time that I'll be in Sosua in the middle of the summer, I've been several times in the last year but in August, Sept. , Oct. , Dec. And then most recently in March. Is it typically slower this time of year, or business as usual? When I was there in March last time, I remember the action being good. Actually I can't remember when it wasn't good. I've read on here that Pedro Clisante is closed off to traffic in the evening so that will be interesting. I'm going to assume that foot traffic is a lot more spread out now rather than condensed into a single block.
I'm tempted to get in touch with the chicas I've been with in past trips, letting them know that I'm arriving. But when I keep thinking about how I have a hard time picking a chica when I visit Rumba's or the'Latins (when it was open), or just any of the smaller bars in the area. I'm thinking I'll just hold off on getting in touch and try something new. Because in Sosua, the hardest thing is not having enough time to get with all the attractive women that catch my eye. I guess it's not a bad problem to have.
This is Lovely. She can't fuck and her pussy stinks! Fuck her at your own risk. She walks around Sosua, speaks little English. One of the bad misrepresentation of Haitian females. You can see her waist in this photo that was hidden when I pulled her and I was disappointed. She sucked my dick and cum on her saggy tits.There is another Lovely that works at Ruby's beach bar. Great body, but a shitty attitude. She also tends to steer towards other women, like most of them do at Ruby's place.
Disinfection for both is really helpful.
www.dettol.co.uk
These women maybe don't empty their pussies for days (juck).
This is Lovely. She can't fuck and her pussy stinks! Fuck her at your own risk. She walks around Sosua, speaks little English. One of the bad misrepresentation of Haitian females. You can see her waist in this photo that was hidden when I pulled her and I was disappointed. She sucked my dick and cum on her saggy tits.
There is another Lovely that works at Ruby's beach bar. Great body, but a shitty attitude. She also tends to steer towards other women, like most of them do at Ruby's place.Lovely has not worked at Ruby's for a few months now. She is the daytime waitress at Rancho Tipico.
Hooking up with the ladies who gave you good service is often the best way to go. Many times the chemistry may not be good with a new girl. So you might feel you wasted or did not get the most out of your encounter. Having known ladies helps to guarantee a great time. New girls do have a strong fascination and enhance the fun. IMHO.
So what's new in Sosua? I'm excited to be back next weekend for a quick stop (just a couple days like usual) and will be trying out Classico's. I had never been to the old Classico's as it was always closed. This is also the first time that I'll be in Sosua in the middle of the summer, I've been several times in the last year but in August, Sept. , Oct. , Dec. And then most recently in March. Is it typically slower this time of year, or business as usual? When I was there in March last time, I remember the action being good. Actually I can't remember when it wasn't good. I've read on here that Pedro Clisante is closed off to traffic in the evening so that will be interesting. I'm going to assume that foot traffic is a lot more spread out now rather than condensed into a single block.
I'm tempted to get in touch with the chicas I've been with in past trips, letting them know that I'm arriving. But when I keep thinking about how I have a hard time picking a chica when I visit Rumba's or the'Latins (when it was open), or just any of the smaller bars in the area. I'm thinking I'll just hold off on getting in touch and try something new. Because in Sosua, the hardest thing is not having enough time to get with all the attractive women that catch my eye. I guess it's not a bad problem to have.
Would her name happen to be Lovely?No the one I'm talking about is not Lovely. Lovely has a gap and bucked teeth, but not the incredible overbite of this other chica. The chica I am talking about is shorter than lovely, and her ass is smaller, but very round.
Damn, things must have changed in the past year. I fucked Lovely a few times and she was pretty good. She never could suck a dick, but she was a good fuck and had a world class ass! One of the absolute best asses I have ever seen in Sousa.That must be an older photo because she looks thicker these days.
So what's new in Sosua? I'm excited to be back next weekend for a quick stop (just a couple days like usual) and will be trying out Classico's. I had never been to the old Classico's as it was always closed. This is also the first time that I'll be in Sosua in the middle of the summer, I've been several times in the last year but in August, Sept. , Oct. , Dec. And then most recently in March. Is it typically slower this time of year, or business as usual? When I was there in March last time, I remember the action being good. Actually I can't remember when it wasn't good. I've read on here that Pedro Clisante is closed off to traffic in the evening so that will be interesting. I'm going to assume that foot traffic is a lot more spread out now rather than condensed into a single block.
I'm tempted to get in touch with the chicas I've been with in past trips, letting them know that I'm arriving. But when I keep thinking about how I have a hard time picking a chica when I visit Rumba's or the'Latins (when it was open), or just any of the smaller bars in the area. I'm thinking I'll just hold off on getting in touch and try something new. Because in Sosua, the hardest thing is not having enough time to get with all the attractive women that catch my eye. I guess it's not a bad problem to have.Since so many chicas stay in Sosua, filling up many of those rooming houses and "chica" hotels, things shouldn't be much different in July than how it was when you were there in March. Once the sun goes down, and it's cooler. More chicas come out to play. At the playa, don't see that many chicas when it's hot. But can't rely on that, because another day, you may see a lot of chicas at the playa, or out and about. Now that Classicos is back open, the girls that like to dress up, including the ones that won't set foot in Sosua until they go to Classicos at night, they will be in abundance. Outside and downstairs in Merengue, there will be chicas available as well. As been shared, guys who waited got their dimes for less, and for TLN. Early at Classicos, chicas may try to get over 3 k even for ST. The thing is to just come, and after your trip you will also have another perspective of what the middle of summer can be like, with Classicos and the strip open and the latins closed.
Hooking up with the ladies who gave you good service is often the best way to go. Many times the chemistry may not be good with a new girl. So you might feel you wasted or did not get the most out of your encounter. Having known ladies helps to guarantee a great time. New girls do have a strong fascination and enhance the fun. IMHO.I agree, hooking up with ladies who gave you good service is often the best way to go. And true the chemistry may not be good with a new one. However, a dude who hasnt been with a known chica in a while can also experience a disappoint if she fails to live up to how she was before. Just a couple of weeks or months in the game can change some women. Especially if you had that woman when she was fresh on the scene. By the time a dude gets reacquainted, whatever may affect her while in the game during the time a dude was absent, might NOT help to guarantee a great time.
No the one I'm talking about is not Lovely. Lovely has a gap and bucked teeth, but not the incredible overbite of this other chica. The chica I am talking about is shorter than lovely, and her ass is smaller, but very round.WRX, the girl I was speaking of is not Lovely. I know exactly who you are speaking of. Short, extreme over-bite, much younger than Lovely, but outstanding body. I can't think of her name, but I know of whom you speak. Peace.
WRX, the girl I was speaking of is not Lovely. I know exactly who you are speaking of. Short, extreme over-bite, much younger than Lovely, but outstanding body. I can't think of her name, but I know of whom you speak. Peace.You know it. There arent that many chicas around Sosua I know with an overbite like that. I sure hope it doesn't hurt, if you know what I mean?
More deflections and jumping out at others. Do not expect any real answers to your questions. That will not be forthcoming.
RR.Thanks for clearing that up RR.
For a moment, I thought your comments were directed at me.
Thanks for clearing that up RR.
For a moment, I thought your comments were directed at me.They were not. I agree with your opinion. Much a do about nothing.
RR.
On my last three excursions to our beloved Sosua during the last seven months, I have been with at least 10 Haitians. All of them appeared to be fine specimens clothed, with beautiful figures, and the cutest, sweetest asses. However upon removal of their undergarments I noticed droopy, saggy tits on over half of them. I conducted an informal survey with others out on the Strip one afternoon while having beverages at the Puta Viewing Gallery Cafe opposite Rumbas and others told me they had observed the same thing. Apparently all of the Haitians with saggy tits had kids, but I hadn't noticed anything like this with the Dominican women. So do Haitian women while lactating feed other children as well causing the pronounced sagging? Is there some ritual performed in Haiti causing this condition on these womens poor breasts? As this is a formal survey now, what have you others observed?Surfer I have also notice the sags I think its the norm. My novia has 2 kids and does not have the sag, but she make it clear to me she is Haitian but not born in Haiti.
Ipanema Carioca
07-02-14, 09:48
One of the reasons why I love Sosua the new Copacabana! Sosua is Copacabana 2005.
A long time ago here someone reported the amazingly large amount of money that was being sent to the DR by foreigners. It was part of a thread generally warning against the dangers inherent in becoming a "Western Union novio".
At the time, I had a steady girlfriend down there and that year I was down there about 8 times. In between visits, I was sending WU money fairly regularly.
The topic on the board was basically, why would someone be so stupid to get into that situation?
I looked at my own situation for the reasons I was doing it, and (with tongue planted firmly in cheek. I even signed it "Western Union Novio" LOL) I attempted to answer the question. All in the course of providing on topic information to the group.
A couple days ago, some enterprising poster, with way more time on his hands than I do, recently dug up my post and reposted it, presumably to embarrass me? Here it is.
(QUOTE.
"Western Union seems to be the topic of the day, again.
Well, you guys are all having a ball at the expense of those "suckers" who send money to the DR. Patting yourselves on the back.
Enjoy!
I know guys who denigrate other guys who pay for sex. They can't figure out why you pay for something G*the made for free, much less spend thousands of dollars travelling half way around the world just to fuck a ho.
But we know that every guy who pays for sex does it for his own reasons. To him it's worth it.
Likewise sending money to DR.
If those transfer numbers are correct there are a lot of loose, close, and semi close relationships that are being maintained. Sure, there are ripoffs, but that anecdotal stuff is not the norm. There is legitimate value being exchanged. He may be investing in an exclusive GFE with one of the few people he is compatable with, maybe one of the few people who can make it all happen for him. As well, there may be other tangible value in having a well connected lover.
Only if it goes bad, and he still sends money is he an idiot, but I would think that when she stiffs him one way or the other, the money stops.
Signed.
Western Union Novio") QUOTE.
I got a lot of (expected) flak from that post. But it did lay out my own personal reasons for sending my hard earned money (it was less than I was paying for a good night out with my Toronto GF), and added info on the general topic. I'm proud of that post and am happy to post it again.
WU is happening all the time, and I attempted to explain why there are so many who still do it. All that is in the past now, and although I haven't sent money for going on three years now, I still have the same GF, who asks me continually. Now she gets my dinero only when I'm there, and that's enough to keep her hot and ready for me 24/7.
The question is did I get value for my little investment?
The answer. In spades! Still drawing dividends, LOL (but YMMV).
Many are guilty of sending money to help the girls including me. I used to support many girls over the years in Phi only. Of course girls from DR, Costa Rica etc have tried to get me to send money but I did not.
There are benefits in supporting a girl least of which is preventing her from screwing other people. Benefits are you have a perceived GF when you visit. She stays with you and performs better to make you happy.
If somebody can spare some money and want to send so be it.
Main warning is do not fall in love and expect her to be totally faithful to you!
One of the reasons why I love Sosua the new Copacabana! Sosua is Copacabana 2005.I didn't go to Copacabana until 2007, and Sosua is no Copacabana.
Here's one of the reasons I can't stay away.
La Princessa!
July 2009, November 2010, and May 2014
Many are guilty of sending money to help the girls including me. I used to support many girls over the years in Phi only. Of course girls from DR, Costa Rica etc have tried to get me to send money but I did not.
There are benefits in supporting a girl least of which is preventing her from screwing other people. Benefits are you have a perceived GF when you visit. She stays with you and performs better to make you happy.
If somebody can spare some money and want to send so be it.
Main warning is do not fall in love and expect her to be totally faithful to you!Ain't that the truth!
It's a fantasy.
It started for me when I lived in a dismal U.K. after the war, and saw all those Hollywood Mutiny on the Bounty type movies in living color, where the naked native beautiful girls couldn't wait for the sailors to land.
Never thought it would happen to me.
Mr Enternational
07-02-14, 14:39
Many are guilty of sending money to help the girls including me. I used to support many girls over the years in Phi only. Of course girls from DR, Costa Rica etc have tried to get me to send money but I did not.
There are benefits in supporting a girl least of which is preventing her from screwing other people. Benefits are you have a perceived GF when you visit. She stays with you and performs better to make you happy.
If somebody can spare some money and want to send so be it.
Main warning is do not fall in love and expect her to be totally faithful to you!Huh? You say one of the benefits of supporting a woman is so she does not fuck other people, then you turn around and say that even though you support her you should not expect her to be faithful to you? Which is it? Besides, I have never had to support a woman in order for her to be faithful and not fuck around. As far as I'm concerned there are no benefits to supporting a woman unless the money is going towards making a home that you both share more comfortable.
Other than that the only benefit is to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Her pussy is not going to get any wetter next time due to you sending money. Support her for GFE? Man I can go get any random chick from Sosua, Rio, Angeles City, or Pattaya and 9 times out of 10 it will be a GFE. I can not talk to either one for the next 3 years and then call them up to come over and it will be another GFE for as long as I want them to stay. Try doing that and you will see the results are the same whether you are sending money or not.
Furthermore, I would rather have a woman fucking around. You don't see pro athletes sitting around the whole off season then just show up on game day. Practice. Practice. Practice.
Huh? You say one of the benefits of supporting a woman is so she does not fuck other people, then you turn around and say that even though you support her you should not expect her to be faithful to you? Which is it? Besides, I have never had to support a woman in order for her to be faithful and not fuck around. As far as I'm concerned there are no benefits to supporting a woman unless the money is going towards making a home that you both share more comfortable.
Other than that the only benefit is to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Her pussy is not going to get any wetter next time due to you sending money. Support her for GFE? Man I can go get any random chick from Sosua, Rio, Angeles City, or Pattaya and 9 times out of 10 it will be a GFE. I can not talk to either one for the next 3 years and then call them up to come over and it will be another GFE for as long as I want them to stay. Try doing that and you will see the results are the same whether you are sending money or not.
Furthermore, I would rather have a woman fucking around. You don't see pro athletes sitting around the whole off season then just show up on game day. Practice. Practice. Practice.If you read it right I said " Least of which is prevent her from fucking other people".
Mr Enternational
07-02-14, 15:01
If you read it right I said " Least of which is prevent her from fucking other people".Yes I did read it right. "Least of which" is still one of the reasons to do it, albeit low on the priority scale. Had you said one of the reasons not being to prevent her from fucking other people that would be different. Now I think I understand what you were trying to say. Thanks for clarifying.
So you have said that one reason to support a woman is so you will get GFE. Well in my experience, there are guys getting GFE without supporting anyone. What are other ways that supporting a woman will be of benefit to the supporter?
.....So you have said that one reason to support a woman is so you will get GFE. Well in my experience, there are guys getting GFE without supporting anyone. What are other ways that supporting a woman will be of benefit to the supporter?Well, in my case, it was more of a wife-up than a GFE.
What I got was an extended family all over the island, homes to stay in, brothers, one of whom "carries" to hang with in the most remote towns near the Haitian border, where no gringo ever goes, at least I never saw one.
I got a well connected (important to me) and reliable travel agent, scout, translator, purchasing agent, expense tracker, negotiator, cheap transportation organizer, all for spending the same money I would have serial fucking on the strip.
And that's before the great and intimate sex, which at my age can't happen in just an hour or so.
I learned more about Dominicans and their culture than I ever could hanging in Classicos and Rhumba, and made a lot of local friends through her. As you know, he DR is a really different world once you get away from the strip (s).
But I hear ya, Mr E. You would be right in 90% of the cases.
Besides money any suggestions?
Also what are some things I should take when spending over a 6 weeks there.
So you have said that one reason to support a woman is so you will get GFE. Well in my experience, there are guys getting GFE without supporting anyone. What are other ways that supporting a woman will be of benefit to the supporter?I think there is a big distinction between GFE and being Wifed up as discussed by Oakie. It's one thing to get the "GFE" experience for a short period of time versus 24/7. I have one Novia I send a small amount of money once a month which I consider a "retainer". I have no expectations of her while I'm away, and if she is fucking someone else, I don't care. However when I show up I expect and get the "full monty" from her without limitation, etc. I know Mr. E you will not agree with this, but for me it is well worth the "chump change" I spend. Fortunately I'm in a position where I can do this and understand those on this board who frown upon this.
Besides money any suggestions?
Also what are some things I should take when spending over a 6 weeks there.Money is the key to a puta smile! She hungry. If you are going to spending of 6 weeks there you might want to add "a lot of money" to your list!. Think about the average: Hotel $50 per day car $50 food $30 puta bill $57 misc $80. That's $237 per day. That's over $10,000. Some of us have stronger appetites. Do your search here and you can learn to cut expenses. I did that bases on an average. Vets can pay less newbies can pay a lot more.
Money is the key to a puta smile! She hungry. If you are going to spending of 6 weeks there you might want to add "a lot of money" to your list!. Think about the average: Hotel $50 per day car $50 food $30 puta bill $57 misc $80. That's $237 per day. That's over $10,000. Some of us have stronger appetites. Do your search here and you can learn to cut expenses. I did that bases on an average. Vets can pay less newbies can pay a lot more.GrownMan I can't believe a cheap charlie like you was spending $ 237 a day on the average. Shit you could have had a harem or an entourage of chicas for that kind of money being spent everyday!
Manizales911
07-02-14, 18:29
Money is the key to a puta smile! She hungry. If you are going to spending of 6 weeks there you might want to add "a lot of money" to your list!. Think about the average: Hotel $50 per day car $50 food $30 puta bill $57 misc $80. That's $237 per day. That's over $10,000. Some of us have stronger appetites. Do your search here and you can learn to cut expenses. I did that bases on an average. Vets can pay less newbies can pay a lot more.Okay I get the car, food and puta bill but $80. A day in misc. ?
I think there is a big distinction between GFE and being Wifed up as discussed by Oakie. It's one thing to get the "GFE" experience for a short period of time versus 24/7. I have one Novia I send a small amount of money once a month which I consider a "retainer". I have no expectations of her while I'm away, and if she is fucking someone else, I don't care. However when I show up I expect and get the "full monty" from her without limitation, etc. I know Mr. E you will not agree with this, but for me it is well worth the "chump change" I spend. Fortunately I'm in a position where I can do this and understand those on this board who frown upon this.I applaud / frown on you WU novias. However, someone has to pay for my novia's crib oh well. Its chump change for you Surfer but you have the a good perspective. "Fuck someone else. I don't care but, when I come to town am the Big Dog". Giving more money may make your chica preform better. I will never know. Its a game to we conservatives pockets choose not to play. Pay her well keep her happy or pay her little keep her hungry. Its monger choice.
GrownMan I can't believe a cheap charlie like you was spending $ 237 a day on the average. Shit you could have had a harem or an entourage of chicas for that kind of money being spent everyday!Hi S500, so you are saying around $150/ day todos? I was planning on approx $100/ day for putas and food and drink. Hotel prepaid and no rental car.
Manizales911
07-02-14, 18:40
Besides money any suggestions?
Also what are some things I should take when spending over a 6 weeks there.For the chicas, Viagra.
Seriously, don't start showering gifts on these girls they really don't appreciate it and if it's worth more than 50 pesos they will probably sell it the minute you leave anyway. If you really want to spend money on gifts and get a benefit from it bring some cheap vibrators.
Other stuff to bring:
Condoms, twice what you think you will use.
Toiletries, extra because the girls will use them and / or steal them.
Bug spray, lots of it.
Music, bachata, reggaeton, latin pop etc.
Beach towel if you go to the beach.
Sunscreen.
Photocopy of your passport.
Benji's,lots of them, hahaha. No, really.
Okay I get the car, food and puta bill but $80. A day in misc. ?Tips, drinks, police, gas, excursions, phone, minutes, and everything else is now covered trusted me you need it.
Money is the key to a puta smile! She hungry. If you are going to spending of 6 weeks there you might want to add "a lot of money" to your list!. Think about the average: Hotel $50 per day car $50 food $30 puta bill $57 misc $80. That's $237 per day. That's over $10,000. Some of us have stronger appetites. Do your search here and you can learn to cut expenses. I did that bases on an average. Vets can pay less newbies can pay a lot more.Housing: I will be spending exactly $1200.00 for my apartment. I will not be in Sosua though. It is a VERY nice apartment as I am reeeeeeaaal funny about where I stay.
Chicas: I will be with a couple of so called "novias" I the average about 1000 to 1500 per day. Any more than that they are not a Novia. When I have decided to get with a new girl I have never given a girl more than $2000 pesos per session or TLN.
Food: I cook everyday and rarely eat out. Even if I feed a girl my groceries and alcohol is always $100.00 per week.
I expect for my vacation to be about $2500.
I will be in Peurto Plata.
My question more more realted to what things should I not forget to take. For instance I always take the girls some chocolate and low end.
Perfume. They seem to like those two things. I always bring things like batteries, bug spray etc. Either it is not as easy to find and or is not and good quality in the DR. Anyone have things that are a must on their list.
GrownMan I can't believe a cheap charlie like you was spending $ 237 a day on the average. Shit you could have had a harem or an entourage of chicas for that kind of money being spent everyday!Hell no! I am too cheap to be average!
Manizales911
07-02-14, 18:45
Hi S500, so you are saying around $150/ day todos? I was planning on approx $100/ day for putas and food and drink. Hotel prepaid and no rental car.$100. Is tight, very tight but doable if you eat at inexpensive places, don't drink a lot and only plan on one ST session per day. I budget $175. Because I eat a lot and drink a lot and I'm not going to watch every penny while I am on vacation but I understand why not everyone chooses to live that way.
For the chicas, Viagra.
Seriously, don't start showering gifts on these girls they really don't appreciate it and if it's worth more than 50 pesos they will probably sell it the minute you leave anyway. If you really want to spend money on gifts and get a benefit from it bring some cheap vibrators.
Other stuff to bring:
Condoms, twice what you think you will use.
Toiletries, extra because the girls will use them and / or steal them.
Bug spray, lots of it.
Music, bachata, reggaeton, latin pop etc.
Beach towel if you go to the beach.
Sunscreen.
Photocopy of your passport.
Benji's,lots of them, hahaha. No, really.You are exactly right about not getting them anything of value. Appreciate your information. Dude these girls sometimes take the toilet paper.
Home. They will go through your toiletries like it theirs.
$100. Is tight, very tight but doable if you eat at inexpensive places, don't drink a lot and only plan on one ST session per day. I budget $175. Because I eat a lot and drink a lot and I'm not going to watch every penny while I am on vacation but I understand why not everyone chooses to live that way.Drink. I am in the Apartment. I do not drink beer. Solo Vodka and the girls usually do not give you a hard time about what you do not have they drink what you're drinking. Big bottle from the Grocery store and lasts for a while.
I cook at home mostly. Sometimes I do get out and eat.
Well Chicas, as stated I have been going for a while my Spanish while not Fluent really good so I usually do not have a problem with over priced chicas without being.
Too cheap.
Manizales911
07-02-14, 18:56
Food: I cook everyday and rarely eat out. Even if I feed a girl my groceries and alcohol is always $100.00 per week.
Either it is not as easy to find and or is not and good quality in the DR. Anyone have things that are a must on their list.$100. A week on food and booze? Shit, I spend that per day, LOL. You want to bring gifts for the girls but you're going to spend $100. A week on eating and partying? Comer platanos, arroz why huevos y una Presidente pequea todos los dias is not my idea of fun.
Batteries for the vibrators, they are expensive and shit quality in the DR.
$100. A week on food and booze? Shit, I spend that per day, LOL. You want to bring gifts for the girls but you're going to spend $100. A week on eating and partying? Comer platanos, arroz why huevos y una Presidente pequea todos los dias is not my idea of fun.
Batteries for the vibrators, they are expensive and shit quality in the DR.Hahaha You Stay Drunk Daaaaam!
Hi S500, so you are saying around $150/ day todos? I was planning on approx $100/ day for putas and food and drink. Hotel prepaid and no rental car.Depends on how many chicas a day, TLN, etc. But with the Hotel paid for and no car $ 100 would work for me.
Depends on how many chicas a day, TLN, etc. But with the Hotel paid for and no car $ 100 would work for me.If you average 2 chicas a day. 1 afternoon snack (2000) and 1 all night killer (2500) that's $100 US. 2 a day is ok sports fucking. Drink can add up especially if you are buying a few drink for chicas during general conversation. Surfer drinks vivo buy the bottles. It aint cheap.
If you average 2 chicas a day. 1 afternoon snack (2000) and 1 all night killer (2500) that's $100 US. 2 a day is ok sports fucking. Drink can add up especially if you are buying a few drink for chicas during general conversation. Surfer drinks vivo buy the bottles. It aint cheap.I have to agree with you that $ 100 is cutting it close and is dependent on your Spanish skills, how many girls / times your going to do it, how much you drink if at all, whether your buying drinks, etc. If your sport fucking two a day at say no more than $ 1,500 a pop your looking at approximately $ 70 so you have $ 30 a day for food / beverages, etc. If your hotel is paid for.
Manizales911
07-02-14, 22:25
the way i look at it is this, the difference between scraping by on $100. a day and spending $150. a day is pretty big. yet that's only $350. over the course of a week's trip. not a lot of money when you look at the big picture.
For the chicas, Viagra.
Seriously, don't start showering gifts on these girls they really don't appreciate it and if it's worth more than 50 pesos they will probably sell it the minute you leave anyway. If you really want to spend money on gifts and get a benefit from it bring some cheap vibrators.
Other stuff to bring:
Condoms, twice what you think you will use.
Toiletries, extra because the girls will use them and / or steal them.
Bug spray, lots of it.
Music, bachata, reggaeton, latin pop etc.
Beach towel if you go to the beach.
Sunscreen.
Photocopy of your passport.
Benji's,lots of them, hahaha. No, really.That a good list. To add: lubricant, nice female body wash for the chicas leave by the shower, cheap throw away tooth bushes, baby wipes, and your own big bottle of favorite your liquor.
Housing: I will be spending exactly $1200.00 for my apartment. I will not be in Sosua though. It is a VERY nice apartment as I am reeeeeeaaal funny about where I stay.
Chicas: I will be with a couple of so called "novias" I the average about 1000 to 1500 per day. Any more than that they are not a Novia. When I have decided to get with a new girl I have never given a girl more than $2000 pesos per session or TLN.
Food: I cook everyday and rarely eat out. Even if I feed a girl my groceries and alcohol is always $100.00 per week.
I expect for my vacation to be about $2500.
I will be in Peurto Plata.
My question more more realted to what things should I not forget to take. For instance I always take the girls some chocolate and low end.
Perfume. They seem to like those two things. I always bring things like batteries, bug spray etc. Either it is not as easy to find and or is not and good quality in the DR. Anyone have things that are a must on their list.Tarriqq sound like you have be there before so you should know what is on your must bring list. I you have few novias that you are spending all day with- that means breakfast, lunch, and dinner for both of you. An apartment is great in saving money. I move or may move too much for 1 area. 3 days BC 2 La Romana, 1 SD etc.
the way i look at it is this, the difference between scraping by on $100. a day and spending $150. a day is pretty big. yet that's only $350. over the course of a week's trip. not a lot of money when you look at the big picture.i totally agree. yet i keep my eyes on my pesos. unlike that cristal bottle drinking surfer.
http://www.listin.com.do/la-republica/2014/7/2/328301/Deportan-estadounidense-acusado-de-proxenetismo-en-RD
Housing: I will be spending exactly $1200.00 for my apartment. I will not be in Sosua though. It is a VERY nice apartment as I am reeeeeeaaal funny about where I stay.
I will be in Puerto Plata.Where is the apartment within Puerto Plata or Costambar, where or how did you find the apartment?
That a good list. To add: lubricant, nice female body wash for the chicas leave by the shower, cheap throw away tooth bushes, baby wipes, and your own big bottle of favorite your liquor.GrownMan can you explain to the crowd what the baby wipes might be used for? No, maybe on second thought we don't want to know.
http://www.listin.com.do/la-republica/2014/7/2/328301/Deportan-estadounidense-acusado-de-proxenetismo-en-RDI couldn't really understand what was being said in the article, can you translate and / or summarize. Does it mean Rumba's may be shutdown besides DeLatin as well?
I couldn't really understand what was being said in the article, can you translate and / or summarize. Does it mean Rumba's may be shutdown besides DeLatin as well?Article says he was deported because he had no legal status in the country and because he was promoting sexual tourism.
One of the reasons why I love Sosua the new Copacabana! Sosua is Copacabana 2005.Sosua is def a cool 3-4 day trip but Copa 2005? Man you're on drugs. LMAO!
That a good list. To add: lubricant, nice female body wash for the chicas leave by the shower, cheap throw away tooth bushes, baby wipes, and your own big bottle of favorite your liquor.I used to take a lot of stuff down there, but nowadays I take nothing but cash (except for old cell phones I collect from my office). Even the usual bottle of whisky for El Capitan de Charamicos, is cheaper at the tienda.
2nd day there we always hit the Playera anyway and the GF goes to town on the toiletries, (large sizes of course). Even her perfume is cheaper in the DR than where I live.
My bag is usually packed, so if I find a cheap flight, I can just hop a plane. No lists, no shopping.
I couldn't really understand what was being said in the article, can you translate and / or summarize. Does it mean Rumba's may be shutdown besides DeLatin as well?Authorities of the Public Ministry and the Directorate General of Immigration reported today that the USA Citizen was deported, Robert Anechiarico accused of pimping engage and promote sex tourism to the Dominican Republic.
Anechiarico, who served as the brothel owner-manager "Rumba Bar", located in the town of Sosua, Puerto Plata province, was deported by the International Airport of the Americas, says a press release.
The Attorney General of the Republic, Francisco Domínguez Brito, requested the Director General of Immigration, José Ricardo Taveras, order the deportation of Mr. Anechiarico, who was illegally in Dominican territory.
"Since the prosecution have instructed the Special Prosecutor against the Smuggling of Migrants and Trafficking in Persons, which apresen foreigners who are dedicated to promoting the country as a sex tourist destination, which will be deported," said Dominguez Brito the statement said.
Authorities of the Public Ministry and the Directorate General of Immigration reported today that the USA Citizen was deported, Robert Anechiarico accused of pimping engage and promote sex tourism to the Dominican Republic.
Anechiarico, who served as the brothel owner-manager "Rumba Bar", located in the town of Sosua, Puerto Plata province, was deported by the International Airport of the Americas, says a press release.
The Attorney General of the Republic, Francisco Domnguez Brito, requested the Director General of Immigration, Jos Ricardo Taveras, order the deportation of Mr. Anechiarico, who was illegally in Dominican territory.
"Since the prosecution have instructed the Special Prosecutor against the Smuggling of Migrants and Trafficking in Persons, which apresen foreigners who are dedicated to promoting the country as a sex tourist destination, which will be deported," said Dominguez Brito the statement said.So what's next for Rumba's with the owner gone?
GrownMan can you explain to the crowd what the baby wipes might be used for? No, maybe on second thought we don't want to know.Yeah its means we are done- here wipe your pussy and get the hell out of here! LOL.
I am planning a bachelor party for around 20 guys this December. Trying to decide weather to stay in Sosua / Cabarete or Punta Cana. This is not intended to be a 'sexcation" or anything but I am sure at least half of the guys would appreciate having the option to get some action. How is the night life in Sosua? It seems like a lot of spots are closing down. Are there any strip clubs / brothels that are open still? How about regular night clubs? We want to rent a villa but we are having a tough time finding a large enough villa to rent so we are looking for 2 villas close to each other. We found a few pairs but they are in gated communities. Does anyone have experiences with these villas? Will we be able to get girls to come to the house and party with us? Will they have trouble getting past the gate. Some of the villas we are considering are in the Sea House Ranch community.
Any advice would be much appreciated!
I used to take a lot of stuff down there, but nowadays I take nothing but cash (except for old cell phones I collect from my office). Even the usual bottle of whisky for El Capitan de Charamicos, is cheaper at the tienda.
.For me 1. 75 liter of Peach Ciroc. $39 in the states. 750 m Peach ciroc 3200 pesos in DR. And that was the cheapest I saw. Surfer was right I am cheap!
Sosua is def a cool 3-4 day trip but Copa 2005? Man you're on drugs. LMAO!Yeah, I was wondering about that statement too.
Ipanema Carioca
07-03-14, 07:21
Sosua is def a cool 3-4 day trip but Copa 2005? Man you're on drugs. LMAO!Don't take too far out of context Mongmann. You fellas take a lot of stuff and over analyze everything like a bunch of rocket scientists just to have something to say. Why don't you guys make the forum interesting and post pictures of females like I did a few posts ago.
Don't take too far out of context Mongmann. You fellas take a lot of stuff and over analyze everything like a bunch of rocket scientists just to have something to say. Why don't you guys make the forum interesting and post pictures of females like I did a few posts ago.I don't know about you, but posting pics here seems to be unnecessarily complicated. The FAQ is not much help. If it was easier, we might get more.
Any tips?
GrownMan can you explain to the crowd what the baby wipes might be used for? No, maybe on second thought we don't want to know.I bring wipes on my trip. They are good for a good genital wipe down after a session. I bring alot to Rio because I visit alot of privies.
Don't take too far out of context Mongmann. You fellas take a lot of stuff and over analyze everything like a bunch of rocket scientists just to have something to say. Why don't you guys make the forum interesting and post pictures of females like I did a few posts ago.There not too much to over analyze. You compare Rio to Sosua. Sosua can't touch Rio.
I heard a rumor that the Terra Linda was robbed and all the safes on the second floor were taken. Anybody have any info?
Manizales911
07-03-14, 15:46
I don't know about you, but posting pics here seems to be unnecessarily complicated. The FAQ is not much help. If it was easier, we might get more.
Any tips?Posting pics here is the simplest of all the forums I belong to and I belong to quite a few.
I don't know about you, but posting pics here seems to be unnecessarily complicated. The FAQ is not much help. If it was easier, we might get more.
Any tips?I am one of the most technology-challenged people I know, but have managed fairly easily.
When composing a post:
Click Attach Photos or Files.
Click Choose File and select pic / file from your stash.
Click Add File.
Your attachment should be reflected below in the Attachments section.
At this point, click Preview Report, and the pic should be visible.
Only problems are if your pic is huge in terms of data used.
Not being a smart-ass, but pretty simple, even for me.
See attached pic.
I am planning a bachelor party for around 20 guys this December. Trying to decide weather to stay in Sosua / Cabarete or Punta Cana. This is not intended to be a 'sexcation" or anything but I am sure at least half of the guys would appreciate having the option to get some action. How is the night life in Sosua? It seems like a lot of spots are closing down. Are there any strip clubs / brothels that are open still? How about regular night clubs? We want to rent a villa but we are having a tough time finding a large enough villa to rent so we are looking for 2 villas close to each other. We found a few pairs but they are in gated communities. Does anyone have experiences with these villas? Will we be able to get girls to come to the house and party with us? Will they have trouble getting past the gate. Some of the villas we are considering are in the Sea House Ranch community.
Any advice would be much appreciated!Clearly I have time to kill.
Do online searches on Casa Linda and Sea HORSE Ranch. Casa Linda is closer to Sosua if that is your target.
I know of these places, but have no personal experience, as I don't go with groups.
Casa Linda has often been mentioned in Sosua posts. Not sure about Sea Horse Ranch, as it is a more upscale place and may not appreciate parties.
Would advise discretion in both cases. You'd be better off transporting chicas in your vehicles, as security is probably reluctant to admit gaggles of hookers into the complex unescorted.
You probably want a gated community, to prevent your party from being robbed.
Don't think locating hookers in Sosua would be a problem, regardless of any closures.
That said, consider booking rooms at Field of Dreams or BlackBeard's.
You would have an on-site bar in each case, and the on-site restaurant at BB is very good.
Each can provide a good selection of girls and good amenities like pools, jacuzzi, etc.
In the case of FOD, your group would likely have the whole place to yourself.
Both have regularly hosted bachelor parties, and each could probably hook you up with some day tours, for those who don't want to be hooked up with a girl.
Manizales911
07-03-14, 17:17
Clearly I have time to kill.
Do online searches on Casa Linda and Sea HORSE Ranch. Casa Linda is closer to Sosua if that is your target.
I know of these places, but have no personal experience, as I don't go with groups.
Casa Linda has often been mentioned in Sosua posts. Not sure about Sea Horse Ranch, as it is a more upscale place and may not appreciate parties.
Would advise discretion in both cases. You'd be better off transporting chicas in your vehicles, as security is probably reluctant to admit gaggles of hookers into the complex unescorted.
You probably want a gated community, to prevent your party from being robbed.
Don't think locating hookers in Sosua would be a problem, regardless of any closures.
That said, consider booking rooms at Field of Dreams or BlackBeard's.
You would have an on-site bar in each case, and the on-site restaurant at BB is very good.
Each can provide a good selection of girls and good amenities like pools, jacuzzi, etc.
In the case of FOD, your group would likely have the whole place to yourself.
Both have regularly hosted bachelor parties, and each could probably hook you up with some day tours, for those who don't want to be hooked up with a girl.I have been thrown out of villas in both Casa Linda and Hispanoila for partying late at night outside by the pool, Sea Horse certainly isn't going to tolerate parties with hookers etc. ,no way. One has to remember that there are familes living in these communities, no different than if someone threw a bachelor party next door to you in the USA I was going to suggest FOD as well, booze, food, hookers, pool, golfing nearby. Perfect for a bachelor party.
I am one of the most technology-challenged people I know, but have managed fairly easily.
When composing a post:
Click Attach Photos or Files.
Click Choose File and select pic / file from your stash.
Click Add File.
Your attachment should be reflected below in the Attachments section.
At this point, click Preview Report, and the pic should be visible.
Only problems are if your pic is huge in terms of data used.
Not being a smart-ass, but pretty simple, even for me.
See attached pic.Thanks, got it now. There was a problem with my computer.
For me 1. 75 liter of Peach Ciroc. $39 in the states. 750 m Peach ciroc 3200 pesos in DR. And that was the cheapest I saw. Surfer was right I am cheap!I'm in Canada and we pay a lot more than you guys for liquor.
At the Toronto Duty Free Dewars (see I'm cheap too) is about the same price as in Sosua.
I'm in Canada and we pay a lot more than you guys for liquor.
At the Toronto Duty Free Dewars (see I'm cheap too) is about the same price as in Sosua.I know I just got back from Toronto day.
I am planning a bachelor party for around 20 guys this December. Trying to decide weather to stay in Sosua / Cabarete or Punta Cana. This is not intended to be a 'sexcation" or anything but I am sure at least half of the guys would appreciate having the option to get some action. How is the night life in Sosua? It seems like a lot of spots are closing down. Are there any strip clubs / brothels that are open still? How about regular night clubs? We want to rent a villa but we are having a tough time finding a large enough villa to rent so we are looking for 2 villas close to each other. We found a few pairs but they are in gated communities. Does anyone have experiences with these villas? Will we be able to get girls to come to the house and party with us? Will they have trouble getting past the gate. Some of the villas we are considering are in the Sea House Ranch community.
Any advice would be much appreciated!Stop playing games and go to Sosua. Sexcation may not be the intent but making it a great option during a BP. Sosua is design to supply your need and its simple to travel around. Cabarete is nice to visit but I wouldn't say a good BP scene. PC has a lot of families there. Sosua is excellent for single and married men short on time and quick on gratification.
I know I just got back from Toronto day.An odd place for a "cheap" mongerer?
The Brass Rail has the young lookers, Filmore's delivers more of a service (so I'm told).
Sancassani wants to stop prostitution and drugs.
During the radio broadcast Sunday June 29 at Casa de Arte in Sosa the Director of Tourism, Lorenzo Sancassani, fulminated against prostitution in the beach resort. He said that the government should act against prostitution. Entrepreneurs who encourage prostitution should then be addressed. The fact that there have to be closed establishments can not be excluded. But besides that, the evil of the drug trade must also be addressed. Only if proper measurements are taken against these excesses, Sosa can be turned into a resort where families like to spend their holidays. Lorenzo Sancassani said he has already had talks about it with the new police commander and that specific actions can be expected or already have taken place. Furthermore the talks about the reconstruction of the beach, the establishment of a marina and stimulation of diving sport in the bay of Sosa have been resumed. Furthermore, there are major international events scheduled for which the annual Jazz Festival is an example. There are also, in cooperation with the tourist police and the Ministry of Public Affairs, talks about the improvement of the security and safety for the touris.
Ipanema Carioca
07-04-14, 19:21
Sancassani wants to stop prostitution and drugs.Tell Sancassani that people in hell want ice water too, but they don't get any!
Mongerman69
07-05-14, 02:47
Can anyone comment on the current scene in, sosua? Any changes worth noting?
PirateMorgan
07-05-14, 02:52
yes. just came back from there a few minutes ago. the place might as well be padlocked. no women inside. actually no anybody inside. rick the manager was sitting out in the street. latinos, next door, is closed. five or six other bars on the street cannot permit unescorted women inside. around the block, a girl was walking and ran up to me because the police were going to stop her for just being there. with me they did not bother her. (the sign at la rumba was a commercially made sign. not some handwritten temporary sign.) otherwise there were rep001tered groups of girls around. not many but some.
a bomb has now gone off in sosua. time will tell if it is an atomic bomb. but it does not look good for the sosua scene.
Can anyone comment on the current scene in, sosua? Any changes worth noting?The scene is good. The'Latin bar is closed, Classico is back open, and Pedro Clisante is closed for traffic during the evening (the strip where the main action is). I arrived last night and noticed higher quality chicas (this differs for everyone) at Classico. Rumba's has been less busy, but that's judging off a Thursday night. Classico had a long line around midnight last night, I definitely get a sense that there are better looking chicas here now but it could be that there is much more of an effort being made to look their best for Classico. I was a bit skeptical after reading that the'Latin had closed, CMP had closed, and it's the "less busy" season. But I'm actually more pleased with Sosua today than back in March, which was the last time I was there.
I was originally going to try Urban Cabana hotel, right next to Rocky's but decided to switch to New Garden where I have stayed before. Urban Cabana looks very decent from the outside, it's small with less than 10 rooms but the place is "new" and it's very close to the action. New Garden is the same as before, in the past when I stayed here there were always two or three girls at the bar or pool. This time there was a lot more. This morning I remember up to 10 girls sitting around, and the quality was decent. Most seem like regulars though as I recall them from previous trips. I had never been with any of the chicas at New Garden before. Until today. A light skinned one named Amanda, nice body (not skinny but just right). Decent performer. Paid 1500 pesos for ST. BBBJ, DATY, everything except anal on the menu. While she was a decent performer, I won't be repeating. I had always wondered how it would be to get with one of the girls just waiting at the bar at New Garden, and now I know. There's better quality elsewhere, but if you're willing to get some quick action and staying at NG. The girls are not bad. Just be cautious that they might quote you 2500ST as she did but I told her 1000 and settled at 1500.
Atmosphere is good here. Maybe it's just me, but the average quality of girls seems a little higher this time around. By that I mean, whereas last time for every 10 girls I'd see 1-2 that were 8's or 9's. This time it might be 3 or even 4. The open streets of Pedro Clisante is a plus, the sidewalks are not as congested but I still get the impression that people stick to the sidewalks even though the street is open. I still have 2 more days here and am about to head out to Classico, and looking forward to it. If you're thinking about visiting Sosua soon, it's a good time. .
Mongerman69
07-05-14, 12:37
Thanks, for the info, as I m going in October and was beginning to worry. Is there an increased police presence? Are there many Haitian chicas around? I find them a great alternative, but last time I was in, I believe they were deporting them regularly.
Thanks, for the info, as I m going in October and was beginning to worry. Is there an increased police presence? Are there many Haitian chicas around? I find them a great alternative, but last time I was in, I believe they were deporting them regularly.Don't worry about the cops.
A bottle of coke or water goes a long way on a hot day. Guaranteed to get a smile when they pass you, and might come in handy down the road.
Here's LP with friends April 2014
Can anyone comment on the current scene in, sosua? Any changes worth noting?Boy do I disagree with Puntza. Thank god I have some regulars. Hardcore girls just hanging out on the strip Quality way down IMO. Some of the best semipros I have met over my years arent walking the street. People sitting in the dark at places like where El Toro used to be. The vibe on the strip is gone. Signs on Rumbas and others not allowing unaccompanied females which obviously kills the places. No more 5:00 hanging watching sport with Chicas in Rumba. Beach during the day dead. Was planning a month after 10 days I am going back home. Bottom line anybody that has been coming for years is going to see big changes.
Boy do I disagree with Puntza. Thank god I have some regulars. Hardcore girls just hanging out on the strip Quality way down IMO. Some of the best semipros I have met over my years arent walking the street. People sitting in the dark at places like where El Toro used to be. The vibe on the strip is gone. Signs on Rumbas and others not allowing unaccompanied females which obviously kills the places. No more 5:00 hanging watching sport with Chicas in Rumba. Beach during the day dead. Was planning a month after 10 days I am going back home. Bottom line anybody that has been coming for years is going to see big changes.Yes there are changes, but any change is always initially perceived as negative before time allows things to settle and we really see how things go. In discussing with local bartenders that I know, they've mentioned that the police and government are trying to change things for more control but in terms of how busy it has been and the number of working girls. That has not changed much at all.
When I was here back in December, you had Rumbas and the'Latins where all the action was. Rumba would start off getting busy in the early evening hours and packed by 9 PM when the'Latin starts to get more girls. The traffic shifts a couple hours later and the'Latins becomes extremely crowded, and there are a lot of good looking girls at both places. And you're able to watch the action from across the street. Now, is it like that now? No. The establishments have the windows now so you can't look inside from a distance, you have to either get real close (which doesn't help much) or just walk inside. The'Latins is closed so that empty dark space that usually had hundreds of people flowing in and out every night certainly looks like a big change and some may see it as a vibe killer. Rumbas was not busy last night, I went at various times. 7 PM, 9 PM and close to midnight. So there is obvious drop off in traffic to Rumbas, but Classico and Merengue were packed. And because the street is now closed to vehicle traffic, there is a lot more foot traffic in the middle. Winners Circle bar is another area where there are chicas, although it's flowing more to Classico / Merengue. And I have not checked the other bars aside from Bermuda Bar (small bar on the corner of DR Rosen and PC, across from Rumba. It's different yes, but I can't say it's negative. It just depends on how you perceive it. Some will be disappointed by lack of girls at Rumba (which is true after seeing the last two nights) and the'Latin being closed. But when you have that happen, and other places open up. You can expect a shift in traffic. I got way too used to seeing Rumba and the'Latin being packed all the time. So when I arrived in Sosua this time, the first thing I thought was wow. This seems very different. But walk down the entire strip and you just see the quantity of chicas spread out a bit more with it being more central to Classico.
There is good different, and bad different. For me it becomes a bad different when I simply have difficulty finding a chica I find good looking. But I can say in all honesty that I had a much easier time on this trip (which is still on-going) finding a 7 or an 8 or even a 9. Especially at Classico last night. Some will like the changes, others will not, and some will hold judgement until giving it a couple trips. When we get used to something for a period of time and then see a couple pretty big changes. It's normal to be skeptical, and I was skeptical even when getting into town Thursday night. But after a couple days here so far, I am not noticing a decline in Sosua.
Thanks, for the info, as I m going in October and was beginning to worry. Is there an increased police presence? Are there many Haitian chicas around? I find them a great alternative, but last time I was in, I believe they were deporting them regularly.There is more police presence I have noticed, but just a few more police offers walking the streets. Which some will like as it gives the feeling of more security. Some people say Sosua is unsafe, but I have felt more safe walking the streets here than the streets of Amsterdam or Barcelona. Now those are significantly bigger cities, but Sosua is safe as long as you do all the right things (don't wear a fancy watch, show off any wealth, and act like you know where you are going).
Relax, and enjoy your trip. There are flavors of all types here and it is excellent.
I normally rent a car and stay at Plaza Europa.
Now that Pedro Clisante is closed for vehicles is it a problem?
Do I have to leave my car parked at the hotel and walk to clubs?
Will be there end of this month. Thanks for updated info.
I normally rent a car and stay at Plaza Europa.
Now that Pedro Clisante is closed for vehicles is it a problem?
Do I have to leave my car parked at the hotel and walk to clubs?
Will be there end of this month. Thanks for updated info.I wouldn't sweat it, it's only a 5 minute walk. Plus you don't have to worry about drinking and driving. The way things change in the DR, the streets could possibly be back open in a month.
After talking to a few girls yesterday; a few are staying away until things calm down. Mostly hardcore chicas on a hustle running the strip now. Also the talk is that Rumbas is sinking fast and will be gone by the end of August.
Also Willy has quit his "Deputy Mayor" post. Willy was always the front man for new money. Word is that the female Mayor was going to fire him if he didn't resign. Willy is now with the other political party and time will tell if he makes a comeback.
Classicos is being allowed to stay because it is labeled "A Discotex", whereas the others (Dlatins and Rumba) were called " brothels".
Puntz. "Disappointed in lack of girls at Rumba." Man for all intense and purposes its closed. Yea you can walk in drink a beer with your dick in your hands but who wants to. Its dom rep sure you can find a working girl on the strip but anybody that comes down often and stays anytime at all reconizes the hardcore girls that have been here for ever and as I stated before the quality imo is not very good. Not what I want. If going to Classicos at midnight is the end all be all you maybe happy. The accumlative effect is catching up with this place. The original question was about atrip in Oct...thats a lifetime away in this place but it isnt looking good.But I am glad somebody sees it different and is having fun.
Manizales911
07-06-14, 02:52
Puntz. "Disappointed in lack of girls at Rumba." Man for all intense and purposes its closed. Yea you can walk in drink a beer with your dick in your hands but who wants to. Its dom rep sure you can find a working girl on the strip but anybody that comes down often and stays anytime at all reconizes the hardcore girls that have been here for ever and as I stated before the quality imo is not very good. Not what I want. If going to Classicos at midnight is the end all be all you maybe happy. The accumlative effect is catching up with this place. The original question was about atrip in Oct...thats a lifetime away in this place but it isnt looking good.But I am glad somebody sees it different and is having fun.This is all the more reason to stay in touch with star performers over the years. I haven't pulled an unknown off the strip in over two years. Facebook is the new interview spot for me, if they tell me everything I want to here then I will risk 1500 pesos on a ST session. If they are worthy of a repeat I keep their info, if not, I lose it. Just my two centavos.
Lakeside32
07-06-14, 03:30
2 weeks till I take off and I need to know is the the threat level DEFCON5 in Sosua or is there no need to panic. I've heard stories of chicas being arrested and being frightened off, and with the looming threat of that chikunyunga virus I'm heavily considering canceling this trip and returning when the dust clears.
Mr Enternational
07-06-14, 03:47
Frannie, this chick sent me a picture of herself in a hospital bed and said she's low on medicine. I told her I would pass her information along to you. I know how you hate to see them going without.
Frannie, this chick sent me a picture of herself in a hospital bed and said she's low on medicine. I told her I would pass her information along to you. I know how you hate to see them going without.I'll help her out. Can she wait until the end of August?:)
Classicos is being allowed to stay because it is labeled "A Discotex", whereas the others (Dlatins and Rumba) were called " brothels".I have only been going there for less than 4 years.
It is fucking amazing how many changes the small town of Sosua has been through!
Por amor de Dios; Basta!
Frannie, this chick sent me a picture of herself in a hospital bed and said she's low on medicine. I told her I would pass her information along to you. I know how you hate to see them going without.She is your friend, not mine. From what you say it is not clear whether she is in a private or public hospital or whether she has insurance and if so what it covers, but it is entirely possible that she would have to buy her own medicine to receive injections or intravenous medications in the hospital. I would ask her what is her diagnosis and what is the name of the drug she needs to buy and how much it costs, and I could give you an idea of whether it sounds authentic.
Of course it could just be a con, but then again if she is one of your well-off Dominicanas, she is probably trying to get into your pants, so be careful and always use a condom. You are too trusting for your own good.
I have only been going there for less than 4 years.
It is fucking amazing how many changes the small town of Sosua has been through!
Por amor de Dios; Basta!The end is nigh for Sosua as a mass market sex tourism destination, but every cloud has a silver lining and if the'Classico Discoteca is all that remains, then at least it has the advantage of being smoke free, which most of the chicas will appreciate.
Puntz. "Disappointed in lack of girls at Rumba." Man for all intense and purposes its closed. Yea you can walk in drink a beer with your dick in your hands ... Be careful you don't choke on your dick.
Some people say Sosua is unsafe, but I have felt more safe walking the streets here than the streets of Amsterdam ... At least you can't fall into a canal and drown in Sosua, so yes, although the gutters can be pretty deep.
The end is nigh for Sosua as a mass market sex tourism destination, but every cloud has a silver lining and if the'Classico Discoteca is all that remains, then at least it has the advantage of being smoke free, which most of the chicas will appreciate.On the contrary Frannie. Classicos was non-smoking before and most of the people out the side of Classicos smoking was chicas. You don't like smokers so don't try to blame it on the chicas. I don't smoke cigs anymore but I have never heard a Chica say " I can't sleep with you because you smoke". Another example of someone who doesn't do something trying to parlay the impression that it's not tolerated.
The end is nigh for Sosua as a mass market sex tourism destination, but every cloud has a silver lining and if the'Classico Discoteca is all that remains, then at least it has the advantage of being smoke free, which most of the chicas will appreciate.Like all "end is nigh" predictions, Frannie, this one won't come to pass.
There's a lot of money generated for the area (businesses, politicians, landowners) by mongers, and they would need to replace that income. In the bigger picture the sex tade continues to be a major source of foreign exchange for the DR as $millions flow in from around the world, curtesy of WU and other transfers.
The alternative is always "family business", but families want different amenities, besides a beach. They prefer gated safe communities with limited, if any, interaction with "locals", who they see as predators, while the locals see them as easy prey. So they flock to places like Punta Cana, Puerto Plata, Caya Leventado in Samana, and recently Las Terenas, where they can insulate themselves and their kids from the locals. (I happen to think that it's their loss, but that's another story).
Some years back they dreamed up a new marina down by the river, and demolished half of then Charamicos to make way for it. (the first Google Earth pictures showed the whole town). Trouble was the marina was butt up against the other half of Charamicos. Hardly the place for the upscale yatching crowd.
Sure, the politicians will talk, but the truth is Sosua has a bad rep as a Red Zone and will never be considered a family destination.
Which leaves it to us mongers who appreciate all its other "amenities".
Can anyone comment on the current scene in, sosua? Any changes worth noting?Saturday night on Pedro Clisante:
Families early sitting in the street listening to music. Girls walking hurriedly by the gathered families, getting picked up by guys also milling around. A bizarre scene, families sitting in a (former) red light district.
The streets outside PC were full of wandering women with angry faces. In fact, there was an unhappy feeling all around from all those who profit (ed) from the trade.
I was told that Friday night 70 girls were arrested, taken away in vans. One haitiana was beaten soundly when she resisted. I didn't witness and my source heard it word of mouth. Can anyone confirm.
Friday night in Cabarete there were lots of cops, few girls, and I saw guys coming from Sosua, as well as girls, which tends to confirm that there was a serious crackdown Fri night in Sosua.
This reminds me of the late 90's when they arrested all the girls and Sosua was then empty for a couple of years until it slowly made its comeback.
It is discouraging that **** is covering up this significant turn of events in Sosua, favoring its advertisers over its readers and members. **** thereby loses it's credibility. Maybe Jimmy is afraid he won't be allowed into the country.
it's true, sosua is seen as a red zone and it is known to cater to the single traveler for many years now. if one place closes, the girls go elsewhere. if that place closes, they go somewhere else. and if they keep closing places, i can imagine more girls being out on the streets. which i don't think helps "change the image" of sosua as politicians are trying to do. there are many other places for families to go to in dr as people have said.
yes, after seeing rumba last night it's probably safe to say that it's pretty much dead. but i see more girls rep001tered in the lther bars now, aside from classico. and i see more girls walking the streets. please keep in mind i am trying to compare to my previous trips. i have been coming to sosua every 2-3 months since august 2013. i never saw passions or some of the other places from years ago (wasn't present for the re-opening and closing). so my experiences may be different from others. but i never have a hard time finding a good looking chica. .
Tempoecorto
07-06-14, 15:08
Of course it could just be a con, but then again if she is one of your well-off Dominicanas, she is probably trying to get into your pants,....LOL. From the spelling errors in the text (brasa. Instead of brazo. The arm), the woman is unlikely to be literate enough to make the big bucks. The only kind that apparently schmooze into his pants. The real question is: how did he stoop to such low standards?
Tempoecorto
07-06-14, 15:21
So my experiences may be different from others. But I never have a hard time finding a good looking chica. .Anyone who knows the US scene (which does not hold a candle in comparison to Amsterdam or Barcelona), would only be thankful that a place like the DR exists at a stone's throw from US shores. Unfortunately it also draws the US Govt / church's attention, ire and money and induce posturing in the DR politicians to suck up some of the funds.
The talk here about the doom and gloom is only that. Talk!
it's true, sosua is seen as a red zone and it is known to cater to the single traveler for many years now. if one place closes, the girls go elsewhere. if that place closes, they go somewhere else. and if they keep closing places, i can imagine more girls being out on the streets. which i don't think helps "change the image" of sosua as politicians are trying to do. there are many other places for families to go to in dr as people have said.
yes, after seeing rumba last night it's probably safe to say that it's pretty much dead. but i see more girls rep001tered in the lther bars now, aside from classico. and i see more girls walking the streets. please keep in mind i am trying to compare to my previous trips. i have been coming to sosua every 2-3 months since august 2013. i never saw passions or some of the other places from years ago (wasn't present for the re-opening and closing). so my experiences may be different from others. but i never have a hard time finding a good looking chica. .thanks, puntz79.
i'll be heading down quite soon for my second sosua trip and during my first trip in june i thought to myself, "it'd be nice to go into any one of these smaller, empty bars and have a nice conversation / negotiation with some chicas instead of the 'putang wal-mart' of rumba / the'latin".
since all but one of the "wal-marts" has closed do you think i will get my wish and find a dozen or so smaller joints doing good business with 20-30 business ladies hanging around looking to meet some new friends?
I don't smoke cigs anymore but I have never heard a Chica say " I can't sleep with you because you smoke". Another example of someone who doesn't do something trying to parlay the impression that it's not tolerated.Congratulations, I am sure your doctor is proud of you. It isn't that I don't like people who smoke, but that I prefer to avoid smoky environments as they make me sick. In the DR enclosed bars and restaurants are supposed to be non smoking zones, but they allow smoking in those restaurants and bars that are open to the air on three sides, even though this does not stop patrons being exposed to second hand smoke that swirls around inside.
Around the beginning of May several people I knew were complaining of upper respiratory infections or inflammations and some said they thought it had been due to exposure to cigar smoke in the'Latinos (an enclosed bar), where, in spite of having several bouncers, they were not enforcing the no smoking laws. A friend of mine who is a prominent local resident said that he was going to complain to the mayor's office about this. A few days later the'Latino's was closed. I am not necessarily saying this was cause and effect, but if the authorities are looking for an excuse to close a place, then I am sure they can pretty quickly find some reason or other related to noncompliance of some kind.
Yes, there may have been some chicas smoking outside of Classicos, but the majority of them don't smoke and don't particularly care to have to go home to children etc. With their clothing, skin etc. Smelling of cigarette smoke. However, when it comes to refusing to go with a guy because he smokes, there would be very few chicas who could afford to turn down any paying customer for any reason related to personal attractiveness, just like I have never heard of a hairdresser or barber refusing to serve a customer for the same reason, but plenty of customers will avoid a hairdresser who smells of tobacco as a matter of choice.
If the prostitution business eventually goes down the tubes, Sosua can always market itself as a destination for people who like to smoke in between courses at meals.
Thanks, Puntz79.
I'll be heading down quite soon for my second Sosua trip and during my first trip in June I thought to myself, "It'd be nice to go into any one of these smaller, empty bars and have a nice conversation / negotiation with some chicas instead of the 'putang Wal-Mart' of Rumba / the'Latin".
Since all but one of the "Wal-Marts" has closed do you think I will get my wish and find a dozen or so smaller joints doing good business with 20-30 business ladies hanging around looking to meet some new friends?Walk around Pedro Clisante and you should see chicas sitting at various bars. Sure, Classico and Merengue have a lot more now that they are back open, and the quality is good since it's a club and chicas make the effort to really dress up. But the other bars have girls sitting around too, the girls have to go somewhere or else it's the streets. And I probably saw more on the streets this time, which I don't necessarily consider to be a bad thing. And while police presence is increased, supposedly in an effort to reduce prostitution and take away girls. I did not see this happen the last few days. They are just standing there across from the'Latin and Rumba and seem more concerned with just making sure nothing goes wrong. I never saw a girl being taken away by police.
Also, there was pretty decent daytime action at the beach. Or if you just walk around town during the day, you will run into plenty of girls walking to and from the beach, or to and from bars etc.
For some good fresh fish, one should try Benjamin Fresh Seafood. It's on the beach way plaza street (left side if going down towards the beach). Small place, airy, but damn good seafood and the owner Benjamin is friendly.
The talk here about the doom and gloom is only that. Talk!Yes, of course it is just talk. But when you look at the overall direction of commercial establishments that profit from prostitution both locally and internationally, it seems to be trending towards doomsday, even if we have not yet arrived at the crack of doom. We have seen the closure of places like Passions and CMP, which I predicted right here months before it happened, and we have seen a concerted effort to close down prostitution-related businesses that are owned in the DR by foreigners and some of those foreigners deported.
I don't think that those men who have local girlfriends or lovers or those who travel to meet women and who speak Spanish and can blend in to the DR will be particularly affected, but the days of places where groups of men arrive at weekends so that they can walk around and pick up short time chicas in wholesale numbers may be severely diminished over time.
But yes, it does depend on how far the authorities wish to go. The next step would perhaps be going for foreign-owned hotels that cater to single male travelers. I don't know which ones are local owned or foreign owned, but they could probably find some violations, for example hotels that classify themselves as "Aparta-Hotels" so as to avoid the ITBIS tax by installing minimal kitchen facilities in guest rooms might run into trouble.
Yes, the DR economy certainly benefits from sex tourism, perhaps more than most people realize, but I think the government is under pressure from outside the country and has to at least create an appearance of toeing the line to avoid sanctions that could cost billions or lead to loss of borrowing facilities.
Tempoecorto
07-06-14, 19:24
Yes, of course it is just talk. But when you look at the overall direction of commercial establishments that profit from prostitution both locally and internationally, it seems to be trending towards doomsday, even if we have not yet arrived at the crack of doom. I agree with your line of thought. I am glad there are countries like Germany, Spain and Holland (perhaps even the UK) that can still stand up to the puritanical wrath if not the BS bugbear of security talk. Yes, a whole bunch of people would eventually lose from the clampdown, in the US especially and the women, at the bottom of the totem pole in the DR.
If the prostitution business eventually goes down the tubes, Sosua can always market itself as a destination for people who like to smoke in between courses at meals.I like a cigarette with my morning coffee, one with my beer, and after good sex, but I observe the common sense courtesies.
The quiet enjoyment by others of alcohol, tobacco and commercial sex gets a lot of people up tight. Religious folks, politicians and those who just like telling other folks what they can and cannot do.
I thought that the DR was the last bastion of personal freedom, and I'd be sorry to see it go.
Frannie, this chick sent me a picture of herself in a hospital bed and said she's low on medicine. I told her I would pass her information along to you. I know how you hate to see them going without.Thats the new con. I don't know how long its been going on, but I saw two cousins post on their Whatsapp. A picture of themselves in a hospital bed with an iv in their arm.
ForceSteeler
07-06-14, 23:43
The Dominican Republic gets a lot of foreign aid especially from the United States. The Last Thing they want is to be labeled a Sex Tourism Destination. Seems like there getting a lot of Political Pressure.
I Started going to sosua in 2010, its was a lot of fun until the weekend millionaires ruined it. RIP to Sosua 2010-2011. Sosua turned for a worst starting 2012. Awe well it was fun while it lasted.
There's Tons of other Spots Sex Tourism that are 10 x better than Sosua. These days a lot of mongers are keeping there mouth closed for fear these weekend millionaires will find out. They learned there lesson from Brazil and DR.
I like a cigarette with my morning coffee, one with my beer, and after good sex, but I observe the common sense courtesies.
The quiet enjoyment by others of alcohol, tobacco and commercial sex gets a lot of people up tight. Religious folks, politicians and those who just like telling other folks what they can and cannot do.
I thought that the DR was the last bastion of personal freedom, and I'd be sorry to see it go.Just my two cents.
Politicians will always say whatever BS they think voters want to hear.
I can understand that by trying to remake Sosua, they could hope to have a resort area with broader appeal.
That would be good for locals in many ways.
BUT,
Those same corrupt politicians make the DR an impoverished place, with little hope other than a visa to another country.
"Honest" jobs pay almost nothing, and for women, the sex industry is the only place they can make enough money for a better standard of living.
And in some respects, the Dominican attitude towards sex is surprisingly relaxed.
So, with many impoverished women inclined to make money with sex, and mongers willing to pay for it, people will find a way.
MAYBE sex commerce in Sosua might be changed to be less obvious, but with a supply and demand looking for each other, more discreet ways around will crop up.
I'd look for brothels, clubs, or red-light districts off the main street and chicas taking their business to side streets and outskirts of town.
IF it comes to that, I'd expect it all to continue, but more discreetly.
Hell, BlackBeard's has successfully fought back such hypocrisy, and FOD is not getting hassled (that I know of).
They have managed to stay alive by being "invisible" to the casual tourist.
Sex in the DR WILL continue, but MAYBE in another form.
This is not a rhetoric question. Is it possible that blackbeard or FOD will be forced to close down?
Just my two cents.
Politicians will always say whatever BS they think voters want to hear.
I can understand that by trying to remake Sosua, they could hope to have a resort area with broader appeal.
That would be good for locals in many ways.
BUT,
Those same corrupt politicians make the DR an impoverished place, with little hope other than a visa to another country.
"Honest" jobs pay almost nothing, and for women, the sex industry is the only place they can make enough money for a better standard of living.
And in some respects, the Dominican attitude towards sex is surprisingly relaxed.
So, with many impoverished women inclined to make money with sex, and mongers willing to pay for it, people will find a way.
MAYBE sex commerce in Sosua might be changed to be less obvious, but with a supply and demand looking for each other, more discreet ways around will crop up.
I'd look for brothels, clubs, or red-light districts off the main street and chicas taking their business to side streets and outskirts of town.
IF it comes to that, I'd expect it all to continue, but more discreetly.
Hell, BlackBeard's has successfully fought back such hypocrisy, and FOD is not getting hassled (that I know of).
They have managed to stay alive by being "invisible" to the casual tourist.
Sex in the DR WILL continue, but MAYBE in another form.
This is not a rhetoric question. Is it possible that blackbeard or FOD will be forced to close down?
I was wondering about that too. But my optomistic point of view is that this isn't a crackdown on P4P per say because it's still legal and still all over the place. But they want to crackdown on visible, P4P and are using foreign owners as an excuse. But both BB's and FOD's are both in relatively isolated locations and barely visible. I feel if this wasn't true they would have already been easy targets. So let's just keep them low key and no interviews to US reporters.
This is not a rhetoric question. Is it possible that blackbeard or FOD will be forced to close down?Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are on private property. Since prostitution is legal in DR and it is happening on private property there will be no crackdown. I do not recall there ever being a crackdown on Blackbeards. Also, BB is not near a commercial strip (like Pedro Clisante). The reality is that BB is out in nowhere (Costambar), and therefore more inconspicuous. The community is slowly developing but BB is far from everything. They could try but as long as BB and FOD are not showing any indications of pimping they should be okay. If I am correct there have been no crackdowns on New Garden, and they supposedly have chicas on site. I could be wrong on all this and just my two cents worth.
Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are on private property. Since prostitution is legal in DR and it is happening on private property there will be no crackdown. I do not recall there ever being a crackdown on Blackbeards. Also, BB is not near a commercial strip (like Pedro Clisante). The reality is that BB is out in nowhere (Costambar), and therefore more inconspicuous. The community is slowly developing but BB is far from everything. They could try but as long as BB and FOD are not showing any indications of pimping they should be okay. If I am correct there have been no crackdowns on New Garden, and they supposedly have chicas on site. I could be wrong on all this and just my two cents worth.How did they define Rhumba and the'latin as a "brothel"? They are just bars.
"Anechiarico, who served as the brothel owner-manager "Rumba Bar", located in the town of Sosua, Puerto Plata province, was deported by the International Airport of the Americas, says a press release." (posted by Jim James)
A brothel surely is a place where sex is on the menu and is carried out on the premises? BB, Passions, FOD, CMP all fit the bill.
But, under their crazy definition, any bar could be classed as a brothel.
What am I missing here?
Except from when they take exit fee (salida) from clients who is not staying there.
If politicians will decide to get rid of something, they'll find a way.
Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are on private property. Since prostitution is legal in DR and it is happening on private property there will be no crackdown. I do not recall there ever being a crackdown on Blackbeards. Also, BB is not near a commercial strip (like Pedro Clisante). The reality is that BB is out in nowhere (Costambar), and therefore more inconspicuous. The community is slowly developing but BB is far from everything. They could try but as long as BB and FOD are not showing any indications of pimping they should be okay. If I am correct there have been no crackdowns on New Garden, and they supposedly have chicas on site. I could be wrong on all this and just my two cents worth.
How did they define Rhumba and the'latin as a "brothel"? They are just bars.
A brothel surely is a place where sex is on the menu and is carried out on the premises? BB, Passions, FOD, CMP all fit the bill.
But, under their crazy definition, any bar could be classed as a brothel.
What am I missing here?You're not missing anything and you kinda hit the nail on the head. Actually, doing it on the premises is not enough. A third party making a profit is pimping. I need to walk lightly on this issue since many workers of these very places prowl the threads and, in a sense, I do not want to mess it up for them. When the Palace Hotel, in Sosua, was around, and Santo Domingo found out what they were doing, and not paying taxes on it, they used these very boards as evidence against the owner (the owner was a great guy, though).
Let us just say that there are some places, and not just in the Dominican Republic, that claim that the chicas onsite are working independently and that the business is not making a profit from them (yet behind the scenes they are charging a fee to the chicas! Look at some of the posts on this board. A worker at the establishment denies charging chicas (and these are the ones that charge the chicas). I've even asked several chicas myself, in some of these places, and they explained how the chicas are charged). If I had a place, and had chicas onsite, if I could get away with it, I would charge the chicas myself. Hey, free money.
Many of these places will deny it for legal reasons. The other issue is that if they are charging the chicas in some places this makes the chicas employees, with employee benefits, and not independent (Yes, some of these places have been taken to court over this.).
Let us face reality, any cat house or Terma is pimping because a third party is involved!
Then there is the Catholic Church, which opposes all this. Of course there is the police, practically all Catholic, who see chicas making more money than them (barring the machismo issue behind all this). That it why a police officer has no qualms about tossing a hooker. Extend this to the bar scene (which, from what I see, does not charge chicas). You are correct about Dlatins and Rhumba being just a bar but prostitution in general is what the politicians and police oppose (legal or not).
If you walk on Pedro Clisante, away from the beach, all the way beyond Europa, and continue until it turns, you will encounter an abandoned building (I am guessing it is still there). The is the old Caribe Disco. This is how far the strip once stretched. By eliminating Passions and CMP you are actually shrinking it, in that direction. The strip now barely extends beyond Europa Hotel! These crackdowns have been occurring ever since I've been going there and they have had their intended effect (shrinking down the scene). People have long tried to make Sosua tourist friendly but it is hard doing this with hookers around. Not something for the little kiddies.
I am not saying all is dead. The reality is that prostitution will always be around in DR. There are always chicas to be found. There are still chicas to be found, in Sosua, and quite easily at that. The action, though is getting more limited, in Sosua. It is a vice that the authorities are trying to get rid of, but will fail, so the next best thing is to contain it. Even if it is totally eliminated from Sosua (and there is no guarantee of this, even with the writing on the wall) you will still be able to get action in other parts of the island. It is too much a part of the culture for it to disappear.
You're not missing anything and you kinda hit the nail on the head. Actually, doing it on the premises is not enough. A third party making a profit is pimping. I need to walk lightly on this issue since many workers of these very places prowl the threads and, in a sense, I do not want to mess it up for them. When the Palace Hotel, in Sosua, was around, and Santo Domingo found out what they were doing, and not paying taxes on it, they used these very boards as evidence against the owner (the owner was a great guy, though).
Let us just say that there are some places, and not just in the Dominican Republic, that claim that the chicas onsite are working independently and that the business is not making a profit from them (yet behind the scenes they are charging a fee to the chicas! Look at some of the posts on this board. A worker at the establishment denies charging chicas (and these are the ones that charge the chicas). I've even asked several chicas myself, in some of these places, and they explained how the chicas are charged). If I had a place, and had chicas onsite, if I could get away with it, I would charge the chicas myself. Hey, free money.
Many of these places will deny it for legal reasons. The other issue is that if they are charging the chicas in some places this makes the chicas employees, with employee benefits, and not independent (Yes, some of these places have been taken to court over this.).
Let us face reality, any cat house or Terma is pimping because a third party is involved!
Then there is the Catholic Church, which opposes all this. Of course there is the police, practically all Catholic, who see chicas making more money than them (barring the machismo issue behind all this). That it why a police officer has no qualms about tossing a hooker. Extend this to the bar scene (which, from what I see, does not charge chicas). You are correct about Dlatins and Rhumba being just a bar but prostitution in general is what the politicians and police oppose (legal or not).
If you walk on Pedro Clisante, away from the beach, all the way beyond Europa, and continue until it turns, you will encounter an abandoned building (I am guessing it is still there). The is the old Caribe Disco. This is how far the strip once stretched. By eliminating Passions and CMP you are actually shrinking it, in that direction. The strip now barely extends beyond Europa Hotel! These crackdowns have been occurring ever since I've been going there and they have had their intended effect (shrinking down the scene). People have long tried to make Sosua tourist friendly but it is hard doing this with hookers around. Not something for the little kiddies.
I am not saying all is dead. The reality is that prostitution will always be around in DR. There are always chicas to be found. There are still chicas to be found, in Sosua, and quite easily at that. The action, though is getting more limited, in Sosua. It is a vice that the authorities are trying to get rid of, but will fail, so the next best thing is to contain it. Even if it is totally eliminated from Sosua (and there is no guarantee of this, even with the writing on the wall) you will still be able to get action in other parts of the island. It is too much a part of the culture for it to disappear.Thanks Boriman, that makes a lot of sense.
This is not a rhetoric question. Is it possible that blackbeard or FOD will be forced to close down?BB has been under attack before, and weathered the storm.
The key is its location. Some complain about being isolated, but this is what keeps it alive.
It even dropped the gallery of chicas from its website, or a selection book on site, to eliminate potential ammunition for opponents.
A prominently located place draws too much attention from tourists and politicians. This is the problem with the blatant street activity in Sosua.
When a place becomes famous for vice, watch out.
No big tourist venue nearby, so the family tourist trade is not affected.
Same with FOD.
In the old days under Dominican Billy, no problems that I heard of.
A new owner called it the "Mustang Ranch" (not even original) prominently displayed right across from Playa Dorada, and plastered a website with pics of chicas.
Really blatant, in your face stuff, across from a major resort. Bad idea.
In its present form, a "normal" tourist, wifey and kiddies, would have no idea it exists.
Down a long driveway, enclosed behind walls, inconspicuous sign, no problem with alienating tourists.
I don't cruise Santiago, but plenty of posts mention available chicas in casinos.
Likewise with Punta Cana, etc. There are women available, but more discreet, so tourist trade is not put off.
A brothel surely is a place where sex is on the menu and is carried out on the premises? BB, Passions, FOD, CMP all fit the bill.
But, under their crazy definition, any bar could be classed as a brothel.
What am I missing here?Obviously the entire business plan of Rhumba bar is to allow hookers to hang out there in large numbers so that men will come in to meet up with the women and buy drinks for themselves and hopefully for the women too. Hence the owners profit from prostitution. The women are for the most part not bona fide customers of the bar. You are way overthinking this and missing the obvious.
BB has been under attack before, and weathered the storm.
The key is its location. Some complain about being isolated, but this is what keeps it alive.
It even dropped the gallery of chicas from its website, or a selection book on site, to eliminate potential ammunition for opponents.
A prominently located place draws too much attention from tourists and politicians. This is the problem with the blatant street activity in Sosua.
When a place becomes famous for vice, watch out.
No big tourist venue nearby, so the family tourist trade is not affected.
Same with FOD.
In the old days under Dominican Billy, no problems that I heard of...I agree. They are going after the high profile places. Go back on the board three years and the talk was Passions, CMP, Classicos, Latinos, El Flow and the SD casas. All of these places have been shut down a least once since. Only the SD casas have re-opened and they are low key now. BB and FOD are able to fly under the radar because they are isolated plus the clientele is more older and private. They don't have the big mouthed crowd that runs to Sosua and likes the high profile.
Did anyone notice how Newgardens stopped the girls hanging out right before Rumba and Dlatins were shut down? Lorenzo has good connections. Did anyone wonder why the owner of Rumbas was deported and not arrested like Peter was? Rumbas does a lot of community charity so I guess that's why they just deported him.
This new Italian tourist boss wants to see action so the Dominicans are going after the high profile places to make it look good. The smart guys in Sosua would adjust his strategy. All of the outer bars have always been my hunting ground (don't want to say which ones because I don't want them shut down). The girls aren't as hardcore as the girls on the strip and most offer GFE because they don't want to compete with the Pedro Clisante girls. The beach has plenty of pussy but guys try to pick up the hardcore girls walking around. Find a girl working at one of the beach bars and hangout for the afternoon and buy her a couple drinks. I've always liked the girls in the DR who have jobs, they usually are more low-key and humble. The only catch is you have to wait until they aren't working to spend time with them. When I'm in Sosua I would just walk through Rumbas and Dlatins to show my face then head to one of my outer bars and have a ball.
Mr Enternational
07-07-14, 16:54
Same with FOD. In the old days under Dominican Billy, no problems that I heard of. A new owner called it the "Mustang Ranch" (not even original) prominently displayed right across from Playa Dorada, and plastered a website with pics of chicas. Really blatant, in your face stuff, across from a major resort. Bad idea. In its present form, a "normal" tourist, wifey and kiddies, would have no idea it exists.
Down a long driveway, enclosed behind walls, inconspicuous sign, no problem with alienating tourists.Exactly. While looking for a place to stay, I drove past FOD with my Puerto Plata girl and pointed it out and she had no idea what FOD was. I had to explain it to her. As I have said many times before, just because you are in the know does not mean everybody is in the know.
I don't cruise Santiago, but plenty of posts mention available chicas in casinos.I finally went up in the casino last month when I was in Santiago. I found it to be a mixed bag. While standing outside some chicks got out of a taxi and one came over to flirt with me. I think her friend might have been new because she seemed to not really know what was going on. Neither was attractive. I went inside the casino and there are discos connected on both sides. In neither of the three places did I see women who appeared to be hookers. All were normal chicks out with their friends or with their boyfriends.
Charles Pooter
07-07-14, 19:19
Same with FOD.
In the old days under Dominican Billy, no problems that I heard of.
No, no problems of that nature. But not a good comparison. Billy would not permit unattached chicas to hang on the premises. The only ones I ever saw there were "personal friends" of his gf and the masseuses. Many a time I saw putas attempting to visit being escorted straight back to the front gate.
Billy was always concerned that the Playa Dorada owners could easily get him shut down and was very cautious.
Although most of his trade came from mongers and semi-mongers (guys on golfing holidays who occasionally indulged in our hobby) he also let a lot of rooms to commercial travellers and families. It was much more like a motel than the present set-up.
Manizales911
07-07-14, 19:52
Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are on private property. Since prostitution is legal in DR and it is happening on private property there will be no crackdown. I do not recall there ever being a crackdown on Blackbeards. Also, BB is not near a commercial strip (like Pedro Clisante). The reality is that BB is out in nowhere (Costambar), and therefore more inconspicuous. The community is slowly developing but BB is far from everything. They could try but as long as BB and FOD are not showing any indications of pimping they should be okay. If I am correct there have been no crackdowns on New Garden, and they supposedly have chicas on site. I could be wrong on all this and just my two cents worth.What about Cristals, that place is a straight up wh0 rehouse and goes on unimpeded. Lino must be greasing the right hands.
I agree. They are going after the high profile places. Go back on the board three years and the talk was Passions, CMP, Classicos, Latinos, El Flow and the SD casas. All of these places have been shut down a least once since. Only the SD casas have re-opened and they are low key now. BB and FOD are able to fly under the radar because they are isolated plus the clientele is more older and private. They don't have the big mouthed crowd that runs to Sosua and likes the high profile.
Did anyone notice how Newgardens stopped the girls hanging out right before Rumba and Dlatins were shut down? Lorenzo has good connections. Did anyone wonder why the owner of Rumbas was deported and not arrested like Peter was? Rumbas does a lot of community charity so I guess that's why they just deported him.
This new Italian tourist boss wants to see action so the Dominicans are going after the high profile places to make it look good. The smart guys in Sosua would adjust his strategy. All of the outer bars have always been my hunting ground (don't want to say which ones because I don't want them shut down). The girls aren't as hardcore as the girls on the strip and most offer GFE because they don't want to compete with the Pedro Clisante girls. The beach has plenty of pussy but guys try to pick up the hardcore girls walking around. Find a girl working at one of the beach bars and hangout for the afternoon and buy her a couple drinks. I've always liked the girls in the DR who have jobs, they usually are more low-key and humble. The only catch is you have to wait until they aren't working to spend time with them. When I'm in Sosua I would just walk through Rumbas and Dlatins to show my face then head to one of my outer bars and have a ball.Passions was a full fledge *****house. Rumbas is just abar. There is a fee to take the girls out of Passions. At Rumbas there is no fee, girls can come and go as they please. No comparision.
Chris Bigdog
07-07-14, 22:50
Exactly. Which is the business model of every bar and hotel in town.
Obviously the entire business plan of Rhumba bar is to allow hookers to hang out there in large numbers so that men will come in to meet up with the women and buy drinks for themselves and hopefully for the women too. Hence the owners profit from prostitution. The women are for the most part not bona fide customers of the bar. You are way overthinking this and missing the obvious.
Passions was a full fledge *****house. Rumbas is just abar. There is a fee to take the girls out of Passions. At Rumbas there is no fee, girls can come and go as they please. No comparision.You missed my point. They are all " high profile " establishments.
A dude on the ground claims the owner at Rumba was not deported. That he left because the squeeze was being put on him. Now what is the squeeze, and who was doing it? That I am unsure of?
You missed my point. They are all " high profile " establishments.Oh. Ok, they might go after a few of the high profile hotels also.
A dude on the ground claims the owner at Rumba was not deported. That he left because the squeeze was being put on him. Now what is the squeeze, and who was doing it? That I am unsure of?Corrupt politicians and police. Maybe the " new money" is drying up. Let's wait and see who opens what next. It amazes me to see new businesses open and then close two years later when they are always packed.
It's the reason I could never live in the DR. Shit never makes sense because greed always wins.
A dude on the ground claims the owner at Rumba was not deported. That he left because the squeeze was being put on him. Now what is the squeeze, and who was doing it? That I am unsure of?Dude on the ground claims? WTF are you talking about. Who with any real information about this situation is going to state what they know in a public forum? You are a moron!
RR.
Chris Bigdog
07-08-14, 02:53
He said, that a puta told him that her friend's brother who's cousin knows someone who worked as a busboy at Classico's before he got fired said Lebron is going to sign with the Cavs. But she didn't know anthing about Rumba.
Dude on the ground claims? WTF are you talking about. Who with any real information about this situation is going to state what they know in a public forum? You are a moron!
RR.
My first trip to Sosua is next Wednesday. It was supposed to be a present from me to me for my 40th birthday. But just my luck, it sounds like everything is getting shut down right before my trip. I guess I can just relax on the beach, but that will get boring after a couple days. I'm there for a week.
Ipanema Carioca
07-08-14, 04:51
Dude on the ground claims? WTF are you talking about. Who with any real information about this situation is going to state what they know in a public forum? You are a moron!
RR.Bob was not deported! I know many of you are on this board to satisfy your DR blues, and negativity feeds into it. But let's be happy that a guy who has the ability to provide you the Rumba Bar is not deported. I knew this when I saw all of the "deportation" crap popping up, and especially from that use less Cuba DAVE, who do deserve negativity for helping spread this rumor into the DR rumor mill. That guy is specially mad that his favorite spots closed that he will help spread such BS So Ronny Ron, I feel your pain about it, but Bob just went to his usually trip to Las Vegas. Like most of us who are not dominican, we come and go because you got to take a break from DR and reset your 1st world mentality.
Bob was not deported! I know many of you are on this board to satisfy your DR blues, and negativity feeds into it. But let's be happy that a guy who has the ability to provide you the Rumba Bar is not deported. I knew this when I saw all of the "deportation" crap popping up, and especially from that use less Cuba DAVE, who do deserve negativity for helping spread this rumor into the DR rumor mill. That guy is specially mad that his favorite spots closed that he will help spread such BS So Ronny Ron, I feel your pain about it, but Bob just went to his usually trip to Las Vegas. Like most of us who are not dominican, we come and go because you got to take a break from DR and reset your 1st world mentality.I think WRX 2005 picked this one perfectly with his intel. Bob, who I have met and liked saw some bullshit coming and smartly got out of the country till he could figure out how to play it. We are all grateful for what Rumba gave us. Now people want to put this on Cuba Dave, who people respect but we don't follow. Things have been negotiated and now people want to say something different.
Don't come here with that "Monday morning quarterback" shit after the fact. You should have said this shit from the beginning. What is the harm of stating the facts from the beginning?
They went after Dlatins and Willy and Bob did the right thing by getting back to home turf. The Dominican squeeze is in effect and Rumba could possibly be the next fall. After what happened to Peter, Bob was right in leaving. I respect the ex-pats living there and how they operate but don't try to come with the cover-up later after the fact, it only makes you look weak.
.....The smart guys in Sosua would adjust his strategy. All of the outer bars have always been my hunting ground (don't want to say which ones because I don't want them shut down). The girls aren't as hardcore as the girls on the strip and most offer GFE because they don't want to compete with the Pedro Clisante girls. The beach has plenty of pussy but guys try to pick up the hardcore girls walking around. Find a girl working at one of the beach bars and hangout for the afternoon and buy her a couple drinks. I've always liked the girls in the DR who have jobs, they usually are more low-key and humble. The only catch is you have to wait until they aren't working to spend time with them. When I'm in Sosua I would just walk through Rumbas and Dlatins to show my face then head to one of my outer bars and have a ball.Good strategy. Works for me!
When I get down there, during the day I always visit my few favorite bars to check out old friends who are working there. Sometimes with LP or alone, it doesn't matter.
A great afternoon spent renewing old acquaintances, and meeting the new faces who update me on where everybody is now, and who now owns the bar. I spend far more time with semi pro working girls than I do with the pros. The bartender girls have more English so it's easier. They also have GF's and "cousins" who might drop in to say hola.
I now have a decent list of semi pros who I would love to get together with, if I can ever shake my GF, (and just occasionally the timing works out right).
So the latest happenings at Rhumba and the'Latin don't really affect me at all.
Corrupt politicians and police. Maybe the " new money" is drying up. Let's wait and see who opens what next. It amazes me to see new businesses open and then close two years later when they are always packed.
It's the reason I could never live in the DR. Shit never makes sense because greed always wins.Likewise, it's nice to know I can always come to visit, but not have to put up with the madness in the DR full time.
Dude on the ground claims? WTF are you talking about. Who with any real information about this situation is going to state what they know in a public forum? You are a moron!
RR.What I'm talking about, is that there was always reason to doubt if the dude in question was ever deported like was previously reported, assumed or believed. In a few days or posts, your ass is going to be enlightened. So just sit tight. If and when the information comes forth, especially here, then you look dead in the mirror and see what a moron looks like.
Charles Pooter
07-08-14, 17:45
My first trip to Sosua is next Wednesday. It was supposed to be a present from me to me for my 40th birthday. But just my luck, it sounds like everything is getting shut down right before my trip. I guess I can just relax on the beach, but that will get boring after a couple days. I'm there for a week.Don't worry, Terry. You will have a great time if you apply some common sense. Even better time if you have some Spanish. Happy Birthday!
Ipanema Carioca
07-08-14, 17:59
I think WRX 2005 picked this one perfectly with his intel. Bob, who I have met and liked saw some bullshit coming and smartly got out of the country till he could figure out how to play it. We are all grateful for what Rumba gave us. Now people want to put this on Cuba Dave, who people respect but we don't follow. Things have been negotiated and now people want to say something different.
Don't come here with that "Monday morning quarterback" shit after the fact. You should have said this shit from the beginning. What is the harm of stating the facts from the beginning?
They went after Dlatins and Willy and Bob did the right thing by getting back to home turf. The Dominican squeeze is in effect and Rumba could possibly be the next fall. After what happened to Peter, Bob was right in leaving. I respect the ex-pats living there and how they operate but don't try to come with the cover-up later after the fact, it only makes you look weak.Monday morning quarterback? Listen stupid, I know Bob from Westchester County and Sosua, and I know what the situation was and what a rumor is compared to a fact. If you knew something then maybe you should've said something. And Cuba Dave? I don't repeat someone who does a self promoting interview in the Miami Herald as if he's balling in Sosua. That was the most stupid shit. If you respect that then it's too bad you're easily impressed. Lastly, I don't remember address my comment to you.
Tempoecorto
07-08-14, 18:34
Lastly, I don't remember address my comment to you.Sorry, but this is a public forum and anyone is free to comment, even if you did not address to a specific person.
On the other hand, I think you have a valid point. Many on the Sosua board are on the rumor mill (perhaps because as you said, to vicariously allay their DR blues). I note with amazement (and amusement) how people speak of who is who in Sosua and their old countries, the political leadership there, the foreign investments in cruise ships, the comings and goings of the expatriates and the shenanigans of the locals and various rumor mongering. I mean, who the f. Cares. People go there to find women and once the time is up, they catch a flight back. Everything else is just mental masturbation!
My first trip to Sosua is next Wednesday. It was supposed to be a present from me to me for my 40th birthday. But just my luck, it sounds like everything is getting shut down right before my trip. I guess I can just relax on the beach, but that will get boring after a couple days. I'm there for a week.I concur with Charles. I bet you have a great time. Trying to rid Sosua of hookers is like trying to separate peanut butter from bread.
But get back to us, in detail.
Nothing like a Newbie Report to give a fresh perspective on things and get rid of some of the negativity I've seen here lately.
Charles Pooter
07-08-14, 19:21
My first trip to Sosua is next Wednesday. It was supposed to be a present from me to me for my 40th birthday. But just my luck, it sounds like everything is getting shut down right before my trip. I guess I can just relax on the beach, but that will get boring after a couple days. I'm there for a week.The thing is, you don't need any of the places which have shut down to have a great time. Most of them were only good for picking up hard-core working girls (or more likely them picking you up, as you are a newbie). The better girls give them a wide berth anyway. See Mr Gogo and others' remarks about patronizing the little bars away from the center, and picking up girls who actually work, rather than "working girls". Though I would avoid barmaids. They get hit on too often. I guarantee you will not be bored. You will just wonder how the time flashed by so fast.
Some tips:
- Don't get drunk. If that is your thing, you can do that in your own country. Down here you need to keep your wits about you.
- Do not ask for or accept help from locals, least of all cops.
- Do not tell any locals your real name, where you are staying, or when you arrived, or that it is your first trip, or, above all, when you are leaving.
- When walking alone, walk purposefully as if you know exactly where you are going (whether you do or not). If a local approaches you, give a friendly smile and "Hola!" and keep on walking without pausing. Do not let chicas physically touch you in the streets. Only slags do that, and possibly pickpockets.
- Don't go out with more cash than you need. Divide it into various pockets (hopefully buttoned or zipped) so when you have to pay for something you don't pull out your whole stash.
- If you will be drawing cash with debit/credit card, do so inside the bank at the teller counter. It is safer and you can ask for small bills which can be hard to come by. If you don't speak Spanish, write down what you want on a piece of paper, such as:
1000 @ moneda (coins)
1000 @ 50
1000 @ 100
2000 @ 200
5000 @ 500
10000 @ 1000
Total: 20000 pesos (about US$460). Should last you three days.
Refuse to accept 2000 pesos notes. Smaller places may not accept them and there has been a rash of excellent forgeries lately.
- Use the time before your flight to become familiar with prices in pesos. Memorize conversion rates. Do not think in dollars (or euros, or whatever). If someone quotes you in dollars, look blank and ask the price in pesos. Talking dollars marks you as a newbie and a "mark", and you will also suffer from "rounding up" prices.
- Be prepared to budget 20% of your daily spend on disappointments and overcharging. As a newbie that is almost inevitable. With successive trips you will reduce that figure. Don't get angry or seek confrontations over a few hundred pesos. Be prepared to walk away and learn from the experience. A night in jail can sure mess up your vacation and budget.
- Do not get hung up on any one chica. If she is not easily and agreeably available, move on. There will always be a better one down the road.
- Unless you are color-prejudiced, be open to trying haitianas. Some of us prefer them for their better attitude, especially ex-pats and frequent visitors. A little French helps with them.
Do you know where you are staying yet? This time of the year you have no need to pre-arrange. So long as your flight gets in early enough you can check out places in person and make a deal. We all have different criteria for what we need. Everything is within walking distance.
How is your Spanish? Not essential in Sosua to have a good time, but some Spanish will enlarge the circle of chicas you can pick up beyond just the hardcores preying off tourists.
Hey everyone!
Great info on this thread, but I couldn't find what I was looking for. So any help would be greatly appreciated!
4 of us will be in Puerto Plata / Sosua for 4 days. I could care less, but the others want to stay in a "resort" or "villa" and not a hotel. Pool, right on the beach, etc, etc. We're in our late 20's early 30's. Price is really not a big factor. However, chicas are! LOL! So any resort / villa options that are chica friendly?
Thanks!
CJ
Likewise, it's nice to know I can always come to visit, but not have to put up with the madness in the DR full time.
What I'm talking about, is that there was always reason to doubt if the dude in question was ever deported like was previously reported, assumed or believed. In a few days or posts, your ass is going to be enlightened. So just sit tight. If and when the information comes forth, especially here, then you look dead in the mirror and see what a moron looks like.
I doubt that. Not sitting tight, since I don't care. Just wish you would stop your Sarah Palin word soup routine. It would really be nice for someone to post a report about having a good time in Sosua. I'm done with this little exchange.
RR.
I concur with Charles. I bet you have a great time. Trying to rid Sosua of hookers is like trying to separate peanut butter from bread.
But get back to us, in detail.
Nothing like a Newbie Report to give a fresh perspective on things and get rid of some of the negativity I've seen here lately.You may not have thought of this, but it might save you a few dollars.
According to Yahoo Finance, the current dollar-peso exchange rate is 43.475 Pesos to the Dollar.
Don't use airport cambios, enquire at your hotel what rate they offer.
If you take a cab, ask if there is a cambio nearby. They often have pretty good rates.
Only exchange a few hundred dollars at a time, and pay your hotel bill on the first day. Find out the cost in dollars or pesos; there may be a difference you can take advantage of.
If a safe is available in your room, use it, and don't carry large amounts of cash on you.
BB has been under attack before, and weathered the storm.
The key is its location. Some complain about being isolated, but this is what keeps it alive.
It even dropped the gallery of chicas from its website, or a selection book on site, to eliminate potential ammunition for opponents.
A prominently located place draws too much attention from tourists and politicians. This is the problem with the blatant street activity in Sosua.
When a place becomes famous for vice, watch out.
No big tourist venue nearby, so the family tourist trade is not affected.
Same with FOD.
In the old days under Dominican Billy, no problems that I heard of.
A new owner called it the "Mustang Ranch" (not even original) prominently displayed right across from Playa Dorada, and plastered a website with pics of chicas.
Really blatant, in your face stuff, across from a major resort. Bad idea.
In its present form, a "normal" tourist, wifey and kiddies, would have no idea it exists.
Down a long driveway, enclosed behind walls, inconspicuous sign, no problem with alienating tourists.
I don't cruise Santiago, but plenty of posts mention available chicas in casinos.
Likewise with Punta Cana, etc. There are women available, but more discreet, so tourist trade is not put off.Interesting. Now that you mention it, it is impressive that BBs has been so successful given its location. By that I am not talking about staying out of trouble with the law, but rather, about word getting out and getting customers to come. I visited the DR almost a year ago. I rented a car from SD at the time, and was driving around looking for it but couldn't find it. To be so hidden, and yet so successful, speaks well of the owners. Especially since more centrally located places like FOD are still struggling.
I kind of regret not trying harder to find it.
A completely unrelated question. How do places like the-Latin or Rumba become the places where working girls hang out? Is it just a matter of being a big nice place? Or are some deals made with girls on the side? Just wondering if any DR vets knew the scoop.
I'm done with this little exchange.
RR.Yes you are!
NightWhaler
07-08-14, 20:20
You may not have thought of this, but it might save you a few dollars.
According to Yahoo Finance, the current dollar-peso exchange rate is 43.475 Pesos to the Dollar.
Don't use airport cambios, enquire at your hotel what rate they offer.
If you take a cab, ask if there is a cambio nearby. They often have pretty good rates.
Only exchange a few hundred dollars at a time, and pay your hotel bill on the first day. Find out the cost in dollars or pesos; there may be a difference you can take advantage of.
If a safe is available in your room, use it, and don't carry large amounts of cash on you.The best exchange rate to be found is at the Western Union.
Be careful you don't choke on your dick.I don't know what this means. But thanks for the valuable post, you added alot to the forum. Bob is having his property sold from what I hear. Saw signs on bars about accompanied chicas that are no where near the strip that just got put up 2 nights ago.
I don't think that those men who have local girlfriends or lovers or those who travel to meet women and who speak Spanish and can blend in to the DR will be particularly affected, but the days of places where groups of men arrive at weekends so that they can walk around and pick up short time chicas in wholesale numbers may be severely diminished over time.
You might be right. After all, some of us had plenty of fun in Sosua before Rumba and D'Latin even existed. Perhaps the New Jacks, weekend cats and those that see Sosua as the poor man's Rio might be a bit disheartened.
ILikeBigButts3
07-08-14, 23:38
Interesting. Now that you mention it, it is impressive that BBs has been so successful given its location. By that I am not talking about staying out of trouble with the law, but rather, about word getting out and getting customers to come. I visited the DR almost a year ago. I rented a car from SD at the time, and was driving around looking for it but couldn't find it. To be so hidden, and yet so successful, speaks well of the owners. Especially since more centrally located places like FOD are still struggling.
I kind of regret not trying harder to find it.
A completely unrelated question. How do places like the-Latin or Rumba become the places where working girls hang out? Is it just a matter of being a big nice place? Or are some deals made with girls on the side? Just wondering if any DR vets knew the scoop.I initially planned in March 2013 to head straight to BBs as it was my first time in DR, but they had no rooms and went to New Garden instead. I did manage to book one night at BB, middle of my trip. I was very dissapointed, it is in the middle of nowhere, cab cost the same from New Garden to BB as it did from Santiago airport to Sosua and the girls at BBs aren't worth it. The only thing I liked were the rooms which were ace. I'd go back there purely for the rooms, if the location was better, but I will say this again the girls at BBs are not worth the trip. Though I realise I only stayed one night, staff are very good especially the mamasan character, and (part) owner.
My first trip to Sosua is next Wednesday. It was supposed to be a present from me to me for my 40th birthday. But just my luck, it sounds like everything is getting shut down right before my trip. I guess I can just relax on the beach, but that will get boring after a couple days. I'm there for a week.I just came back from PP / Sosua about 2 months ago. First time there.
I had many other commitments take up my time from mongering, but still had a blast.
Good enough that I'm planning to go back in a few weeks!
You will have a great time!
You might be right. After all, some of us had plenty of fun in Sosua before Rumba and D'Latin even existed. Perhaps the New Jacks, weekend cats and those that see Sosua as the poor man's Rio might be a bit disheartened.I think the strongest factor is the high level of supply and demand. Lots of very poor Dominican women and lots of demand for them.
Those factors are pretty powerful.
IF THE POLITICIANS ARE TO BE BELIEVED NOW, bringing that supply and demand will continue, but the way its done will have to change.
The stated objective for "cleaning up" Sosua is to encourage tourism, - which is not a bad objective, as it might be better the economy, jobs, etc.
The key will be to bring supply and demand together DISCREETLY. Off the main strip, less blatant bars, etc.
The ideal response, in my view would be something similar to what exists in parts of Europe.
There are "houses" there that give no clue as to what is there. Just the address number and a doorbell button to push for admittance.
Clubs with an inconspicuous entrance, maybe even a walled / fenced compound, similar to what one sees at BB, FOD.
Nothing visible from the sidewalk. Nothing to offend the wife and kiddies.
Maybe a few similar places just outside town, with similar inconspicuous profiles.
Small bars on side streets, with maybe just a sign and the rest screened from easy view from the street.
The women need the money, and the men want the sex.
I believe the trade will continue in another form.
Thanks for the tips and encouragement. This one is a good to keep in mind anywhere in the world: "Do not get hung up on any one chica. If she is not easily and agreeably available, move on. There will always be a better one down the road. " My Spanish and French are pretty non-existent, which is why I picked Sosua. I booked a room at Casa Valeria. I'll post a report of my impressions.
Terry
Until the day comes that one walks around Sosua and cannot find a single girl that will have sex with you for money, Sosua is not dead. The town is known for its single nightlife and the government knows this. Trying to change it into a family oriented town, they can only do that to a certain extent. There's money that comes in from our business, and they can't risk that. They can try to mask it as much as possible, but prostitution is not illegal in DR. And until that ever changes, the chances of Sosua dying are slim to none. The way I see it, things can only change in DR if either prostitution becomes illegal. OR. There are enough jobs that pay well enough to where women can take on those rather than getting into prostitution. And that's not an overnight change. Nor one that would take a few months, or even a few years. The worst that can happen is places get shut down, only to see the girls go to smaller more discrete places, and business continues from there. Or there are tolerance zones that are similar to other cities in other countries. Rumba and the'Latin were the large can't miss spots where the women would gather and the men would go to in order to pick out a woman as easy as getting Coke from a 7-11. But there are many other bars in the area. And I have had some of my best experiences with talking to women at those bars. Rumba and the'Latin just made the job incredibly easy. But I was never a fan of them and would only go there at night if I didn't have a session planned already. It would be one of those "ah crap, I need to just fuck right now and don't have anything planned with anyone tonight. I guess I'll just go to the'Latin. " Heck a lot of times it would be I'd walk down towards that way and end up spotting a chica or two walking down PC on the way over there or at a bar in the area. And I'd end up with them.
Sosua is alive, you just need to figure out the new game which isn't exactly different from the old game. Maybe you need to walk a few dozen steps more than before. That's about it. The quality is still there, the quantity hasn't diminished. If you think things have really changed that much, and have this much doubt. That's fine, go find another place that is so close to the US that offers that same kind of value, and the rest of us who come here will continue to enjoy. Let's all sit back, enjoy a nice cold Presidente, and enjoy the numerous opportunities that await us in this great beachside town that is so close to the United States.
http://www.scotiabank.com/do/es/1, 8924,00. Html.
This is one of the links to know the prevailing cash exchange rates (USD AMEX travellers cheques have got slightly better rates).
ILikeBigButts3
07-09-14, 05:05
http://www.scotiabank.com/do/es/1, 8924,00. Html.
This is one of the links to know the prevailing cash exchange rates (USD AMEX travellers cheques have got slightly better rates).I hope this is a silly question but will I be able to exchange Ģ50 notes (GBP) anywhere as some places I have travelled to do not at all.
Mr Enternational
07-09-14, 05:23
The key will be to bring supply and demand together DISCREETLY. Off the main strip, less blatant bars, etc.
The ideal response, in my view would be something similar to what exists in parts of Europe.
There are "houses" there that give no clue as to what is there. Just the address number and a doorbell button to push for admittance.
Clubs with an inconspicuous entrance, maybe even a walled / fenced compound, similar to what one sees at BB, FOD.
Nothing visible from the sidewalk. Nothing to offend the wife and kiddies.
Maybe a few similar places just outside town, with similar inconspicuous profiles.
Small bars on side streets, with maybe just a sign and the rest screened from easy view from the street.
The women need the money, and the men want the sex.
I believe the trade will continue in another form.That is assuming that guys will continue going to Sosua just to stick their pole into a hole. The draws of Sosua are the free range chicas you can find at the beach, on the street, in the disco, and in the bars. If it was reduced to sneaking around inside of a walled compound I doubt that hardly any of the people who monger there today would return.
Until the day comes that one walks around Sosua and cannot find a single girl that will have sex with you for money, Sosua is not dead. The town is known for its single nightlife and the government knows this. Trying to change it into a family oriented town, they can only do that to a certain extent. There's money that comes in from our business, and they can't risk that. They can try to mask it as much as possible, but prostitution is not illegal in DR. And until that ever changes, the chances of Sosua dying are slim to none. The way I see it, things can only change in DR if either prostitution becomes illegal. OR. There are enough jobs that pay well enough to where women can take on those rather than getting into prostitution. And that's not an overnight change. Nor one that would take a few months, or even a few years. The worst that can happen is places get shut down, only to see the girls go to smaller more discrete places, and business continues from there. Or there are tolerance zones that are similar to other cities in other countries. Rumba and the'Latin were the large can't miss spots where the women would gather and the men would go to in order to pick out a woman as easy as getting Coke from a 7-11. But there are many other bars in the area. And I have had some of my best experiences with talking to women at those bars. Rumba and the'Latin just made the job incredibly easy. But I was never a fan of them and would only go there at night if I didn't have a session planned already. It would be one of those "ah crap, I need to just fuck right now and don't have anything planned with anyone tonight. I guess I'll just go to the'Latin. " Heck a lot of times it would be I'd walk down towards that way and end up spotting a chica or two walking down PC on the way over there or at a bar in the area. And I'd end up with them.
Sosua is alive, you just need to figure out the new game which isn't exactly different from the old game. Maybe you need to walk a few dozen steps more than before. That's about it. The quality is still there, the quantity hasn't diminished. If you think things have really changed that much, and have this much doubt. That's fine, go find another place that is so close to the US that offers that same kind of value, and the rest of us who come here will continue to enjoy. Let's all sit back, enjoy a nice cold Presidente, and enjoy the numerous opportunities that await us in this great beachside town that is so close to the United States.Thank you!
I have been thrown out of villas in both Casa Linda and Hispanoila for partying late at night outside by the pool, Sea Horse certainly isn't going to tolerate parties with hookers etc. ,no way. One has to remember that there are familes living in these communities, no different than if someone threw a bachelor party next door to you in the USA I was going to suggest FOD as well, booze, food, hookers, pool, golfing nearby. Perfect for a bachelor party.Thanks for all the advice and feedback. Definitely need to re-think this trip.
Marc Anthony
07-09-14, 06:42
My first trip to Sosua is next Wednesday. It was supposed to be a present from me to me for my 40th birthday. But just my luck, it sounds like everything is getting shut down right before my trip. I guess I can just relax on the beach, but that will get boring after a couple days. I'm there for a week.Print Charles Pooters recommendations and take them along. Sosua has been through these cycles before and it doesn't change anything you should care about. I've been on the north coast fairly often for more than a decade and never thought much about any of those recently closed establishments.
Rumba and the'Latin just made the job incredibly easy. But I was never a fan of them and would only go there at night if I didn't have a session planned already. It would be one of those "ah crap, I need to just fuck right now and don't have anything planned with anyone tonight. I guess I'll just go to the'Latin. " Heck a lot of times it would be I'd walk down towards that way and end up spotting a chica or two walking down PC on the way over there or at a bar in the area. And I'd end up with them.Until the day comes that one walks around Sosua and cannot find a single girl that will have sex with you for money, Sosua is not dead. The town is known for its single nightlife and the government knows this. Likewise, I never depended on Rumba or Dee Latins, or even Classico. Chicas can be found everywhere. And now more than ever, chicas frequenting and living in Sosua have made p4 p more of an occupation for themselves. Some openly call it going to work. By that I mean; Many stay in Sosua for weeks or months before they go back to where they are from. I don't see chicas just up and leaving. I see them adjusting their behavior so they can blend in and still make a living. GFE and TLN's may make a strong comeback with those not overly hardened. If anything, people (mongers and chicas) are going to step up using all forms of communication (cell phones, social media etc) to establish and maintain contact for business / relationships. As enough chicas start getting too old or less desirable, there should be plenty of new chicas ready to take their place. We see it now. Young ass chicas walking around trying to get in the game. And all of the chicas in their prime, that failed to market themselves well, or those overly greedy, too slick, or those who provide whack or lackluster service will eventually have very little value in comparison to the new chicas and those on a serious mission to survive.
I did manage to book one night at BB, middle of my trip. I was very dissapointed, it is in the middle of nowhere, cab cost the same from New Garden to BB as it did from Santiago airport to Sosua and the girls at BBs aren't worth it. The only thing I liked were the rooms which were ace. I'd go back there purely for the rooms, if the location was better, but I will say this again the girls at BBs are not worth the trip.The grounds and the rooms are nice at BB's. I also like eating there. Was you there only one night? If so, you may not have seen the complete roster of women at BB's. However for enough guys, having to choose only from the selection of women "on duty" , seeing them back at the pool after you finish, that could be a turn off too. The plus side is. If you do find chicas at BB's that captures your fancy, you may be able to get their numbers and hookup when they arent working and you arent staying there. I see girls in places like BB and FOD giving up their numbers openly without hesitation. A while back girls working at these establishments had to be covert in giving their numbers or receiving numbers from guests. Maybe one day you may be in the area of one of these places. Stop by for a drink. If you see a chica you like, get her number and make arrangements to hook up when she isn't working there.
Camaro1257
07-09-14, 12:45
I don't see chicas just up and leaving. I see them adjusting their behavior so they can blend in and still make a living. GFE and TLN's may make a strong comeback with those not overly hardened. If anything, people (mongers and chicas) are going to step up using all forms of communication (cell phones, social media etc) to establish and maintain contact for business / relationships. As enough chicas start getting too old or less desirable, there should be plenty of new chicas ready to take their place. We see it now. Young ass chicas walking around trying to get in the game. And all of the chicas in their prime, that failed to market themselves well, or those overly greedy, too slick, or those who provide whack or lackluster service will eventually have very little value in comparison to the new chicas and those on a serious mission to survive.I agree with this prognosis. Not only will the chicas adapt so should we.
That is assuming that guys will continue going to Sosua just to stick their pole into a hole. The draws of Sosua are the free range chicas you can find at the beach, on the street, in the disco, and in the bars. If it was reduced to sneaking around inside of a walled compound I doubt that hardly any of the people who monger there today would return.I think that's the main point.
All of us can find P4P without going far from home. Even the high prices at home are cheap compared to international travel.
At home we have to make blind appointments at hotels / apartments, find the places on the outskirts of town, only to find there's nobody worth fucking.
How many of us have climbed the stairs, pressed the buzzer, and made some excuse to leave?
If this is the model they want for Sosua, mongers will go elsewhere.
In Sosua the chicas find you, and you can pick and choose, audition them over a beer, and generally find what you want and get the deed done within a hundred yards of so from where you are sitting. Hell, you can even take your beer with you.
Mr E has nailed it. Sosua needs to continue easy, uncomplicated P4P if it is to sustain its prosperity. It won't survive just on guys like me who have a regular GF.
That is assuming that guys will continue going to Sosua just to stick their pole into a hole. The draws of Sosua are the free range chicas you can find at the beach, on the street, in the disco, and in the bars. If it was reduced to sneaking around inside of a walled compound I doubt that hardly any of the people who monger there today would return.Those were just some ideas off the top of my head. Just examples, but what evolves, who knows?
My point was it just has to be more discreet to avoid shocking the "family tourists. ".
"Free range" girls on the beach, elsewhere, would probably still continue. Things just have to be less obvious.
Picking up on a waitress, girls in stores, etc can't be policed.
I don't expect women will be banned from Sosua and the beaches, but a gaggle of highly painted obvious hookers will be told by police to move on.
I expect things to follow a "path of least resistance" with high profile "HOOKERS HERE!" places passed up for more casual encounters.
Let's just see what evolves.
Riky Rapido
07-09-14, 16:10
http://www.scotiabank.com/do/es/1, 8924,00. Html.
This is one of the links to know the prevailing cash exchange rates (USD AMEX travellers cheques have got slightly better rates).Few banks will exchange them, and you might find yourself waiting in a long line only to find out that you need to go to another bank branch for processing them. Use your debit card from your home bank. Let them know you will be in the DR.
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.
Charles Pooter
07-09-14, 18:40
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.This is a joke, right?
I wouldn't leave a Dominican of either sex unattended for three seconds, let alone thirty minutes, even if I had known them for ten years.
ILikeBigButts3
07-09-14, 18:41
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.Though this won't help your cause, this is exactly the reason why I've never even had a chica stay the night. To be fair I don't feel that sorry for this guy, Leaving her with all that and no safe, just silly. He must have thought for a second she was actually there cause she wanted to and not because she had too (to earn a living). Very silly man.
Hate seeing anyone ripped off but who brings that stuff. Life lessons.
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.
Chris Bigdog
07-09-14, 18:54
She does have a nice rack.
Hate seeing anyone ripped off but who brings that stuff. Life lessons.
Mr Enternational
07-09-14, 19:03
There are many normal Dominicans that I would trust. But we are talking about a hooker here. Guys do not put your trust into a hooker from anywhere. They are sleeping with you for the MONEY. If they can get money by other means then they will do that as well. Including stealing all of your shit. I guess this guy started to believe the GFE. Where I come from hookers and thieves are one in the same. Chica proof your shit.
This is a joke, right?
I wouldn't leave a Dominican of either sex unattended for three seconds, let alone thirty minutes, even if I had known them for ten years..
Tempoecorto
07-09-14, 19:18
I wouldn't leave a Dominican of either sex unattended for three seconds, let alone thirty minutes, even if I had known them for ten years.Sounds a bit harsh to me. Can't speak of men but have known women who I have left alone at the hotel room and gone out. Not that I carry all those fancy gizmos and if I did would not keep them on full display to tempt.
Manizales911
07-09-14, 20:40
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.No disrespect but your friend is a dumbass. Leaving a girl alone in your place is a mistake to begin with but who brings that much highly sought after, often stolen electronics with them to the DR in the first place. I bring my IPad, an older IPhone and that's it and it never leaves my sight other than when it's locked up. And what was $3000. Doing laying around?
And she's not even hot,wtf.
ILikeBigButts3
07-09-14, 20:50
And she's not even hot,wtf.That's too funny, because it's true.
Mr Enternational
07-09-14, 21:14
That's too funny, because it's true.Looks good enough for me. A regular chick in a regular situation. Those pictures were not intended to be glamor shots. Do her hair, put some makeup and club clothes on her and you guys would be drooling and would probably make the same mistake that that guy did.
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.She needs to be placed on the Sosua hoe warning list on this forum.
Though this won't help your cause, this is exactly the reason why I've never even had a chica stay the night. To be fair I don't feel that sorry for this guy, Leaving her with all that and no safe, just silly. He must have thought for a second she was actually there cause she wanted to and not because she had too (to earn a living). Very silly man.I can understand all of that other stuff laying around but the 3 Gs just laying around. Cuisin 4 A Brusin!
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.Your "friend" did a dummy move. There is no reason to have all that stuff laying around a chick you pay to fuck in a third world country.
As soon as you left, she probably jump up got dress and ran off with your stuff. Im mean your friend stuff.
What the hell is he doing with all those gagdets?
Manizales911
07-09-14, 23:20
Looks good enough for me. A regular chick in a regular situation. Those pictures were not intended to be glamor shots. Do her hair, put some makeup and club clothes on her and you guys would be drooling and would probably make the same mistake that that guy did."You guys"? Not this guy. I'm not that stupid and neither are a lot of guys on here.
Manizales911
07-09-14, 23:26
Sounds a bit harsh to me. Can't speak of men but have known women who I have left alone at the hotel room and gone out. Not that I carry all those fancy gizmos and if I did would not keep them on full display to tempt.I have a couple of girls that I've known for 5-8 years that I would trust with my IPad or phone but that's about it. I NEVER leave cash unlocked and would trust NO girl with about $10,000. Worth of stuff like this dumbbell did because as honest as they had been up to that point there is a breaking point where the temptation might be too much.
Charles Pooter
07-10-14, 00:01
Sounds a bit harsh to me. See the latest posts on the Field of Dreams thread.
She needs to be placed on the Sosua hoe warning list on this forum.That actually isn't a bad idea. There could be a whole laundry list of items to warn others about a particular hoe. Perhaps even a ten most not wanted list!
I can understand all of that other stuff laying around but the 3 Gs just laying around. Cuisin 4 A Brusin!I'd be hesitant to leave $3,000 lying around in front of a group of Sunday school teachers.
Tempoecorto
07-10-14, 00:58
See the latest posts on the Field of Dreams thread.I am not saying it does not happen. I am only objecting to your "broad brush". My experience without tempting anyone as recounted before, NOT with the Sosua kind has been different. I certainly agree with Manizales that there is a break point in terms of temptation in a land where most people make 10000 DOP or less a month.
That actually isn't a bad idea. There could be a whole laundry list of items to warn others about a particular hoe. Perhaps even a ten most not wanted list!I remember a few years ago when the girl in Sosua tried to hide Jaos phone in her pussy till the cops found it lmao. But real talk, some of you guys need to tighten-up with your personal security.
I hate to say it, but the girl should've got his ass. Leaving it all around like community property. Luckily the guy wasn't hurt, that's the main point.
Chris Bigdog
07-10-14, 02:37
Who steals the 3 G first?
I'd be hesitant to leave $3,000 lying around in front of a group of Sunday school teachers.
I'm always amazed that guys here will consort with the lowest of the low and somehow feel superior to the hoes they are sharing bodily fluids with.
When hoes behave like hoes, guys are suddenly outraged. Must be an ego thing. "They're dirt, but I'm normal and they should act normal" is the way the old song goes. "They should respect my space, be on time, keep their promises and leave my stuff alone", is all I hear. Complaints.
Look guys, to her you are nothing more than a john. You may claim to give her the best sex she has ever had, and if you pay her enough, she'll tell you so. But she'll laugh at your ego with her girlfriends.
In fact, a hooker has far MORE contempt for a john than he does for her, after all, who is paying who? It's him with the fantasy and her with the acting and the dinero.
Don't some of you guys get it yet?
What constantly surprises me are folks who are surprised, even outraged when a hoe behaves like a hoe.
I think some guys here need a serious reality check.
So sue me!
(I have absolutely no sympathy for the poor "victim" in this recent case. He got what he asked for, no more, no less. And it wasn't a "friend" who did this to him. Just another Third World hoe. If the hoes had their own forum his picture would be No. 1 on the "mark" list.)
Alex Deuce
07-10-14, 03:45
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
She Stole:
Two Laptops.
Expensive Professional Camera.
Galaxy Note.
Ipad.
$3000.00 Cash.
There is a $1000.00 Reward for her Capture and Conviction.
He left her in the apartment alone for less than thirty minutes and she took all of his stuff. Also he had known her for abut 7 months prior.
I am in Puerto Plata with my buddy. He saw this girl alot and she was always sweet and cool. He saw her for months! He and I went to do some running and when we came back all of his stuff was gone. Man these girls are RUTHLESS. I also thought they were.
Good friends. I learned from him. I will NEVER leave a girl alone in my apartment. Police acted like they did not care either. Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.Your friend deserved what he got. He should not have left her alone at any point. Its lack of understanding where you are and whom your dealing with. I'm a big believer in Karma and people getting what they deserve for being an idiot. That's just ignorance.
I'm always amazed that guys here will consort with the lowest of the low and somehow feel superior to the hoes they are sharing bodily fluids with.
When hoes behave like hoes, guys are suddenly outraged. Must be an ego thing. "They're dirt, but I'm normal and they should act normal" is the way the old song goes. "They should respect my space, be on time, keep their promises and leave my stuff alone", is all I hear. Complaints.
Look guys, to her you are nothing more than a john. You may claim to give her the best sex she has ever had, and if you pay her enough, she'll tell you so. But she'll laugh at your ego with her girlfriends.
In fact, a hooker has far MORE contempt for a john than he does for her, after all, who is paying who? It's him with the fantasy and her with the acting and the dinero.
Don't some of you guys get it yet?
What constantly surprises me are folks who are surprised, even outraged when a hoe behaves like a hoe.
I think some guys here need a serious reality check.
So sue me!
(I have absolutely no sympathy for the poor "victim" in this recent case. He got what he asked for, no more, no less. And it wasn't a "friend" who did this to him. Just another Third World hoe. If the hoes had their own forum his picture would be No. 1 on the "mark" list.)In general I agree with you. Many guys drink a little too much of the kool aid.
BUT, being a prostitute /"hoe" doesn't equate with being a thief. Not respecting the john is one thing. Stealing is something else completely. Being a puta has nothing to do with being honest and a person of your word.
I look back at the two situations I reported on here in May. Were they really rip offs?
The first one gave me the best session I'd ever had down there and wanted more money. From her standpoint if I'd agreed to 1500 for routine STD, she figured If she gave me everything I asked for, no reservations, and I obviously really really enjoyed it, it's worth another 1000. Aside from the principle of the prior agreement she was absulutely right, she was worth it!
The second one who woke me up to leave early, has apologized profusely and texts me almost daily, for another chance to show me how much she "lobes" me.
I can't complain, because I'm smiling too much.
In general I agree with you. Many guys drink a little too much of the kool aid.
BUT, being a prostitute /"hoe" doesn't equate with being a thief. Not respecting the john is one thing. Stealing is something else completely. Being a puta has nothing to do with being honest and a person of your word.Get real Manny. A hoe ripping off a john? It's not even newsworthy.
And the complaint that "the cops don't seem interested"? Gimme me a break, they probably are too busy laughing at the guy.
But, I'm sure you, like me, are a little more careful who you consider "friends".
Early on I learned that if I gave my passport, debit card, phone, and wallet to my Dominican GF, she would keep them safe and have more respect for my money than I did. We got into this habit where I would put some money for her in the front of the wallet and my money in the back. When I got off the plane I handed my stuff to her. Never actually "paid" for anything. She took care of everything.
Sometimes in the the bar, I would want my wallet back because a chica paying all the bills didn't look very cool or macho. She understood but grabbed it back when I was done and always complained I'd bought too many beers for acquaintances, and tipped too much.
Bottom line, she looked after my money very well, better that I would have done on vacation.
The second day always she headed to the WU office to wire money to her mom, and to her son in New Jersey. She was so happy to do that and within minutes they were on the phone thanking me personally.
The point? Over the years she had ample opportunity to rip me off but I always woke up with more money in my wallet than I thought I should have.
In contrast I have known guys who have been cleaned out and almost reduced to bums, by greedy ex-wives. Got them fired too in a couple of cases.
So, to me It's all relative, and I refuse to generalize about any sex, race, creed, or religion.
Few banks will exchange them, and you might find yourself waiting in a long line only to find out that you need to go to another bank branch for processing them. Use your debit card from your home bank. Let them know you will be in the DR.Absolutely not true. Banco Popular, Scotia Bank, Banco Progresso to name a few, all will accept them. Regular line, take your passport, denomination is USD only. It is done for years, and it is simple safe and efficient way. It is an additional means to manage your money, no declines, replaceable if lost etc. Use them and don't be part of large amount of cash being stolen from you.
From the looks of this article it appears a drunk American tourist fell off a balcony on PC and busted his ass. I wonder if he is on this site?? http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=15847.
A good friend of mine who was in Puerto Plata Dominican Republic got robbed by this woman.
Please pass this on. Also if anyone can put it up in any stores in Sousua.Not much use putting up a "wanted" poster if we don't even have her name!
Not much use putting up a "wanted" poster if we don't even have her name!Well, he did post pictures, which should be enough it I'd the bit $h.
Manizales911
07-10-14, 09:31
Early on I learned that if I gave my passport, debit card, phone, and wallet to my Dominican GF, she would keep them safe and have more respect for my money than I did. We got into this habit where I would put some money for her in the front of the wallet and my money in the back. When I got off the plane I handed my stuff to her. Never actually "paid" for anything. She took care of everything.
Sometimes in the the bar, I would want my wallet back because a chica paying all the bills didn't look very cool or macho. She understood but grabbed it back when I was done and always complained I'd bought too many beers for acquaintances, and tipped too much.
Bottom line, she looked after my money very well, better that I would have done on vacation.
The second day always she headed to the WU office to wire money to her mom, and to her son in New Jersey. She was so happy to do that and within minutes they were on the phone thanking me personally.
The point? Over the years she had ample opportunity to rip me off but I always woke up with more money in my wallet than I thought I should have.
In contrast I have known guys who have been cleaned out and almost reduced to bums, by greedy ex-wives. Got them fired too in a couple of cases.
So, to me It's all relative, and I refuse to generalize about any sex, race, creed, or religion.Try increasing the amount in the wallet by $1000. Each trip, I would bet my life that before it reached $15 K that she would screw you royally and I don't mean it in a good way. I mean no disrespect to your girl, I'm sure she is very honest compared to the average h00 ker but there is a choking point for 99.999% of the people in the DR due to the poverty there.
Try increasing the amount in the wallet by $1000. Each trip, I would bet my life that before it reached $15 K that she would screw you royally and I don't mean it in a good way. I mean no disrespect to your girl, I'm sure she is very honest compared to the average h00 ker but there is a choking point for 99.999% of the people in the DR due to the poverty there.You're probably right, for the reason you state, but I would call that "tempting the devil".
However, I think we bear the most responsibility for keeping 'them honest. I treat her well when I'm there but I have low tolerance for dishonesty and she's come to know it.
Maybe she's smart enough not to turn her Santa Clause into a Grinch?
But, we'll see.
Try increasing the amount in the wallet by $1000. Each trip, I would bet my life that before it reached $15 K that she would screw you royally and I don't mean it in a good way. I mean no disrespect to your girl, I'm sure she is very honest compared to the average h00 ker but there is a choking point for 99.999% of the people in the DR due to the poverty there.The point is valid, but applies universally to 99.9% of the planet, its just the amount that differs.
If members of this forum were given one million dollars to deliver, I wonder how many would show up with the money and how many would be on a plane for parts unknown.
Many Dominicans would "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs" by taking a large score if it presented itself, (that's also reflected in their business practices) but I believe most of those are hookers. Semi-pros and the like, with no thought of a long-term relationship.
I would bet Oakie's chica sees (or already has) a long term relationship, and will not trash that for a quick score today.
But its never a good idea to put one's honesty limit to the test (we all have one); better not to offer too much temptation.
Early on I learned that if I gave my passport, debit card, phone, and wallet to my Dominican GF, she would keep them safe and have more respect for my money than I did. We got into this habit where I would put some money for her in the front of the wallet and my money in the back. When I got off the plane I handed my stuff to her. Never actually "paid" for anything. She took care of everything.
Sometimes in the the bar, I would want my wallet back because a chica paying all the bills didn't look very cool or macho. She understood but grabbed it back when I was done and always complained I'd bought too many beers for acquaintances, and tipped too much.
Bottom line, she looked after my money very well, better that I would have done on vacation.
The second day always she headed to the WU office to wire money to her mom, and to her son in New Jersey. She was so happy to do that and within minutes they were on the phone thanking me personally.
The point? Over the years she had ample opportunity to rip me off but I always woke up with more money in my wallet than I thought I should have.
In contrast I have known guys who have been cleaned out and almost reduced to bums, by greedy ex-wives. Got them fired too in a couple of cases.
So, to me It's all relative, and I refuse to generalize about any sex, race, creed, or religion.I like controlling my money. Why do you give her your money and debit card? She could be going for the long con.
I like controlling my money. Why do you give her your money and debit card? She could be going for the long con.That was something that just developed over time. Thinking about it, I guess it started as a convenience when we were in strange bars at night, I was new, and It was hard to tell the difference between a 50 or a 500 dp in poor light. Didn't want to do the tourist fumble bit when trying to figure out the bill, and paying it, checking the change etc. in a crowded darkened bar.
But I wouldn't argue with you guys, because your advice is good.
I'm at risk, and I don't recommend it to anyone else. But it's been five years now, and I limit what she could score, because I only cash out enough for a day or so anyway. I'm always taking off for the best safe in the world, my best friend, the ATM machine.
That was something that just developed over time. Thinking about it, I guess it started as a convenience when we were in strange bars at night, I was new, and It was hard to tell the difference between a 50 or a 500 dp in poor light. Didn't want to do the tourist fumble bit when trying to figure out the bill, and paying it, checking the change etc. in a crowded darkened bar.
But I wouldn't argue with you guys, because your advice is good.
I'm at risk, and I don't recommend it to anyone else. But it's been five years now, and I limit what she could score, because I only cash out enough for a day or so anyway. I'm always taking off for the best safe in the world, my best friend, the ATM machine.Ok, Atleast it works for you. Just don't leave 2 lab tops, notepad, Iphone and $3000 laying around, then you should be good. LOL.
Tempoecorto
07-10-14, 14:55
Thinking about it, I guess it started as a convenience when we were in strange bars at night, I was new, and It was hard to tell the difference between a 50 or a 500 dp in poor light. I have had similar problem, confounding the bills because of same / similar color.
I am no believer in girl friends, anywhere but I have often given my wallet (which does not contain 1000 dollars of course) to women to settle bills especially those that I feel some chemistry with (so on long trips for example) and always, without fail, they have risen to the occasion and dealt with it as if it were their own money. I think, it is a gesture that pays them respect without so many words.
Tempoecorto
07-10-14, 14:59
If members of this forum were given one million dollars to deliver, I wonder how many would show up with the money and how many would be on a plane for parts unknown.
With the money market or even long term CD rates being what they are, $1 M has lost much of its shiny patina but your point is very valid. We all have our breaking points.
I look back at the two situations I reported on here in May. Were they really rip offs?
The first one gave me the best session I'd ever had down there and wanted more money. From her standpoint if I'd agreed to 1500 for routine STD, she figured If she gave me everything I asked for, no reservations, and I obviously really really enjoyed it, it's worth another 1000. Aside from the principle of the prior agreement she was absulutely right, she was worth it!
The second one who woke me up to leave early, has apologized profusely and texts me almost daily, for another chance to show me how much she "lobes" me.
I can't complain, because I'm smiling too much.Oakie its guys like you that makes is hard for cheapy cheapies like me. If you gave her extra 1000 at her insistence and not your liberty- she thinks the next guy will do the same if she begs enough. And if a chica pours on how she "lobes" you- after breaking her deal (I say she had every intension) - and you are entertaining her with for a second chance; she may think its easy and there is no real consequeces to reneging on a deal. I will be foolish to ask you to change your style because its your money and situation. For me- a break off of an agreement is a sign of DISRESPECT. You don't believe me try doing it to a chicas after sex and watch how loco she gets when you cut her pesos short. It happens to allot of us in this sport but a wise and experience monger deals according. If you can't complain she did her trick to the right person.
Early on I learned that if I gave my passport, debit card, phone, and wallet to my Dominican GF, she would keep them safe and have more respect for my money than I did. We got into this habit where I would put some money for her in the front of the wallet and my money in the back. When I got off the plane I handed my stuff to her. Never actually "paid" for anything. She took care of everything.
Sometimes in the the bar, I would want my wallet back because a chica paying all the bills didn't look very cool or macho. She understood but grabbed it back when I was done and always complained I'd bought too many beers for acquaintances, and tipped too much.
Bottom line, she looked after my money very well, better that I would have done on vacation.
The second day always she headed to the WU office to wire money to her mom, and to her son in New Jersey. She was so happy to do that and within minutes they were on the phone thanking me personally.
The point? Over the years she had ample opportunity to rip me off but I always woke up with more money in my wallet than I thought I should have.
.Oakie I want to introduce you to my Nov. Amiga. She is looking for a nice honest man LOL. I see half empty. You see half full. I love this game and your stories.
I'm always amazed that guys here will consort with the lowest of the low and somehow feel superior to the hoes they are sharing bodily fluids with.Guys here consorting with the lowest of the low? Since when are the women in question the lowest of the low? Because you said they were? What posts or posters are you talking about? You making shit up about how people supposedly think, and then making an argument about something you made up. Again? BTW How the hell do you know how guys feel? That they feel superior? Superior how? In what context? I can see guys having the propensity of being and feeling superior due their level of education, income, home training, life experience, sophistication, ability to move around the world more freely, ability to use reason and logic to overcome their mistakes and errors in judgement. Unless you have some specific knowledge of guys sense of superiority that contradicts these basics, I don't see anything wrong with being or feeling superior for those reasons.
When hoes behave like hoes, guys are suddenly outraged. Must be an ego thing. "They're dirt, but I'm normal and they should act normal" is the way the old song goes. "They should respect my space, be on time, keep their promises and leave my stuff alone", is all I hear. Complaints.No what you hear is what ever script of what you think others are saying or thinking in their heads, in your own head. You and a few others in this forum have a habit of being on some sort of crusade against individuals here that share info and testimonials of their trip reports and included in it is on chica behavior. The negative and when it's positive.
Then ya'll want to conjure up some contrived attitude and imply a negative spin on some sense of superiority that these men supposedly possess. That they think of chicas as dirt, biatches and w*****s, lowest of the low and whole array of other characterizations of chicas, mostly manufactured by you disgruntled posters who refuse to acknowledge and assimilate the proper context in which the info is / was conveyed and / or shared by guys in this forum. The problem isn't guys complaints about chicas to whom it applies to. After all there is a healthy mixture of positive as well as negative experiences in this forum. The problem is the major distortion you and a couple of others try to assign to other guys here who may share an unfortunate outcome. And then complain, because these guys took the time to share. So you manufacture some fucked up fallacies of how they supposedly think / feel, and then form an argument as if you are right about them.
Anyone reading this forum in order to be duped, would have to accept your distortion of what guys said about chicas in general, accept your fallacies about how others guys supposedly think and feel. And be stupid enough to believe that you made a valid argument against whoever they are. That is quite an orchestration of using the Red Herring tactic.
I commend guys taking the time to share their stories good, bad and indifferent. Where the chips fall on the story, so be it. You and the other "clones" like to distort and berate the efforts of others who provide good information to warn and reinforce safety for the rest of us who can appreciate those efforts. Discussing, sharing, and complaining about chica behavior aint going to stop or change. Thats one of the reasons for this forum, so guys have a venue to talk about what happened on their trips. If anyone expected or wants to read only posts with positive endings in them and no complaints, or they cant take the volume of complaints, they chose the wrong fucking forum. So learn to deal with it. If you can't cope, no problem. Individuals will just post what they choose anyway. I say and mean what I said with the utmost respect.
Manizales911
07-10-14, 16:40
The point is valid, but applies universally to 99.9% of the planet, its just the amount that differs.
If members of this forum were given one million dollars to deliver, I wonder how many would show up with the money and how many would be on a plane for parts unknown.
Many Dominicans would "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs" by taking a large score if it presented itself, (that's also reflected in their business practices) but I believe most of those are hookers. Semi-pros and the like, with no thought of a long-term relationship.
I would bet Oakie's chica sees (or already has) a long term relationship, and will not trash that for a quick score today.
But its never a good idea to put one's honesty limit to the test (we all have one); better not to offer too much temptation.I agree 100% with all of this. My point was that comparing Oakie giving his girl his wallet with let's say a couple hundred bucks in it with leaving her with the equivalent of what that bobo that lost all that stuff was comparing apples and oranges, seņor Bobo lost about $10 K or more in valuables, not too many DR chicas are going to walk away from that kind of payday.
Early on I learned that if I gave my passport, debit card, phone, and wallet to my Dominican GF, she would keep them safe and have more respect for my money than I did. We got into this habit where I would put some money for her in the front of the wallet and my money in the back. When I got off the plane I handed my stuff to her. Never actually "paid" for anything. She took care of everything.
Sometimes in the the bar, I would want my wallet back because a chica paying all the bills didn't look very cool or macho. She understood but grabbed it back when I was done and always complained I'd bought too many beers for acquaintances, and tipped too much.
Bottom line, she looked after my money very well, better that I would have done on vacation.
The second day always she headed to the WU office to wire money to her mom, and to her son in New Jersey. She was so happy to do that and within minutes they were on the phone thanking me personally.
The point? Over the years she had ample opportunity to rip me off but I always woke up with more money in my wallet than I thought I should have.
In contrast I have known guys who have been cleaned out and almost reduced to bums, by greedy ex-wives. Got them fired too in a couple of cases.
So, to me It's all relative, and I refuse to generalize about any sex, race, creed, or religion.Sounds so familiar. My one GF from BKK was very trustworthy. She was a virgin when I met her and she worked in a bank. When we were together she held on to my wallet and she would pay for everything. Next morning she will explain to me the expenses and how much was spent. Never stole even a single penny. The relationship lasted four years and we drifted apart. Sometimes I still contact her just to see how she is doing. She got married to an Australian. She was the good one.
Another girl who is from Phi was good in the beginning but one time she took 3000 pesos from my pocket. I always locked up everything except local money. Previous night we had gone to the casino and I had won 12,000 pesos. I guess she figured I would not notice missing 3000 pesos. Drunk or not drunk I always know how much I have and how much was spent. This is the only time a girl stole my money.
Only other time in Sosua I lost my cheap phone. Cannot blame it on the girl because I do not know what happened.
Usually I do not lock up local money.
Anyway it is natural to trust somebody.
However prudent thing to do is lock up all valuables including money.
Anybody in Sosua now that can provide a report of what's going on whether it's about their exploits with the chicas behind closed doors, the beach, the Strip, the club's, etc. All this ranting and raving over bullshit lately is boring! When I get there in two weeks I'll provide some trip reports of my adventures in fantasy land.
That was something that just developed over time. Thinking about it, I guess it started as a convenience when we were in strange bars at night, I was new, and It was hard to tell the difference between a 50 or a 500 dp in poor light. Didn't want to do the tourist fumble bit when trying to figure out the bill, and paying it, checking the change etc. in a crowded darkened bar.
But I wouldn't argue with you guys, because your advice is good.
I'm at risk, and I don't recommend it to anyone else. But it's been five years now, and I limit what she could score, because I only cash out enough for a day or so anyway. I'm always taking off for the best safe in the world, my best friend, the ATM machine.Have you tried changing your pin with each trip? That could add a layer of safety. Even in the states, I change my pins and passwords for everything regularly.
Guys here consorting with the lowest of the low?
Then ya'll want to conjure up some contrived attitude and imply a negative spin on some sense of superiority that these men supposedly possess. That they think of chicas as dirt, biatches and w*****s, lowest of the low and whole array of other characterizations of chicas, mostly manufactured by you disgruntled posters who refuse to acknowledge and assimilate the proper context in which the info is / was conveyed and / or shared by guys in this forum. The problem isn't guys complaints about chicas to whom it applies to. After all there is a healthy mixture of positive as well as negative experiences in this forum. The problem is the major distortion you and a couple of others try to assign to other guys here who may share an unfortunate outcome. And then complain, because these guys took the time to share. So you manufacture some fucked up fallacies of how they supposedly think / feel, and then form an argument as if you are right about them.
I commend guys taking the time to share their stories good, bad and indifferent. Where the chips fall on the story, so be it. You and the other "clones" like to distort and berate the efforts of others who provide good information to warn and reinforce safety for the rest of us who can appreciate those efforts. Discussing, sharing, and complaining about chica behavior aint going to stop or change. Thats one of the reasons for this forum, so guys have a venue to talk about what happened on their trips. If anyone expected or wants to read only posts with positive endings in them and no complaints, or they cant take the volume of complaints, they chose the wrong fucking forum. So learn to deal with it. If you can't cope, no problem. Individuals will just post what they choose anyway. I say and mean what I said with the utmost respect.Good point. Myself being occasionally guilty as well.
Look guys, to her you are nothing more than a john.Which also applies to the chick you hand over your money and debit card to. Knowing you are nothing more than a John you still entrusted your money and debit card to a hoe? She is fucking other men when you arent there right?
You may claim to give her the best sex she has ever had, and if you pay her enough, she'll tell you so. But she'll laugh at your ego with her girlfriends.And you may claim she has never stolen from you because you've known her 5 yrs, and she'll tell you she won't, if you are paying enough. Which isn't hard to fathom. But she may laugh at your vulnerability and sense of trust when she is with her girlfriends or family behind your back.
In fact, a hooker has far MORE contempt for a john than he does for her, after all, who is paying who? It's him with the fantasy and her with the acting and the dinero.Don't some of you guys get it yet?I don't think you get it. If you believe all of that why would you give a hooker your debit card, knowing deep down she really has contempt for you? Your main value is the benefits you provide? Your fantasy, and her acting and the dinero is no different than anybody elses situation. And while you may believe your situation is better than other guys because they had problems, your gal could easily be playing the long game.
Somebody here said try entrusting more money around the chick and see what happens? I say do other wise. Stop being a WU novio. Stop supporting her family. Just stop all the bennies. Then continue allowing her to hold your debit card. Maybe then you'll get a chance to see a different side of her when you provide a different challenge. Hopefully she won't pass that debit card info over to somebody else instead? Maybe she won't steal from you, but will set out to look for another cash cow. That doesn't mean she was honest all of that time. It could mean she just thought she could get a lot more out of you in the long run, than simply stealing a few thousand dollars. You are probably providing way above what is necessary by WU and when you are with her. So why would she fuck that up for a few measily hundreds / thousands of dollars? It's not necessarily honesty one may possess. It may simply be about the circumstances placed in front of them. Some people appear honest, but they just haven't had the right test put in front of them.
Have you tried changing your pin with each trip? That could add a layer of safety. Even in the states, I change my pins and passwords for everything regularly.Changing pins and passwords is certainly a good idea for a layer of safety. Unfortunately it doesn't help if the individual with bad intentions is able to make certain online purchases because they manage to get all the info they need right on the card. Name, account number, expiration date, and the 3 digit code on the back. That doesn't have to be the chica a guy entrusts, it could be somebody she gives the information to. And the transaction (s) can happen months or weeks down the road to deflect suspicion. The recipient does not have to be someone living in the DR as well. My thing is, why take that chance?
Changing pins and passwords is certainly a good idea for a layer of safety. Unfortunately it doesn't help if the individual with bad intentions is able to make certain online purchases because they manage to get all the info they need right on the card. Name, account number, expiration date, and the 3 digit code on the back. That doesn't have to be the chica a guy entrusts, it could be somebody she gives the information to. And the transaction (s) can happen months or weeks down the road to deflect suspicion. The recipient does not have to be someone living in the DR as well. My thing is, why take that chance?You are preaching to the choir. With few exceptions (Euro countries, Canada, Japan, and Australia), when I visit a country, especailly a developing country, I am all cash all the time. I usually bring 2-3 k and exchange as I go. That way, the only way you lose out is your own fault: being robbed, not reading the check correctly, etc. It also limits the damage to what you are carrying. In many countries, you can get the international banking exchange rate at a cambio. In the PI and Jamaica, I was getting significantly better than the internet official exchange rate. My ATM and credit cards are locked in the safe.
I was just trying to offer a suggestion who someone who seemed determined to stick with an acknowledgely risky convenience.
You are preaching to the choir. With few exceptions (Euro countries, Canada, Japan, and Australia), when I visit a country, especailly a developing country, I am all cash all the time. I usually bring 2-3 k and exchange as I go. That way, the only way you lose out is your own fault: being robbed, not reading the check correctly, etc. It also limits the damage to what you are carrying. In many countries, you can get the international banking exchange rate at a cambio. In the PI and Jamaica, I was getting significantly better than the internet official exchange rate. My ATM and credit cards are locked in the safe.
I was just trying to offer a suggestion who someone who seemed determined to stick with an acknowledgely risky convenience.Manny the info wasnt for you. You arent giving your debit card to a chica to hold.
Frannie, this chick sent me a picture of herself in a hospital bed and said she's low on medicine. I told her I would pass her information along to you. I know how you hate to see them going without.
Here this chica needs help too. I saw here two days later on the strip
Here this chica needs help too. I saw here two days later on the stripI hope that isn't a recent picture? I already sent that chica money for her medical bills. How could she still be bedridden? She told me she was much better. LOL.
Mr Enternational
07-10-14, 18:32
Here this chica needs help too. I saw here two days later on the stripI guess Frannie has been working miracles around there. I should invest in Glaxo Smith Kline because of all the money Frannie gives them to buy their much needed medicine. At least that chica's setup has blood in the tube.
The point is valid, but applies universally to 99.9% of the planet, its just the amount that differs.
I would bet Oakie's chica sees (or already has) a long term relationship, and will not trash that for a quick score today.
But its never a good idea to put one's honesty limit to the test (we all have one); better not to offer too much temptation.Not necessarily just a long term relationship. Although that is part of it. But it could also be a long term, well established arrangement they dont want to lose. And you are correct, she may be unlikely to trash that for a quick score. Whats interesting, is a dude may not know how to test for honesty. Because honesty is relative. With the right circumstances, a presumed honest person may manifest dishonest behavior. Some may believe by putting an abundance in someones face, entrusting them with "mind my money" duties and nothing ends up missing, means they are building some sort of trust bond. But what about another test? Take away that established arrangement. Kill the benefits. Now the temptation towards dishonesty may be manifested on what they arent getting from you anymore, not what you entrust them with. Most guys arent able to get off the WU merry go round, so they'll never get that chance to see a different side unless something drastic happens to change the arrangement.
Which also applies to the chick you hand over your money and debit card to. Knowing you are nothing more than a John you still entrusted your money and debit card to a hoe? She is fucking other men when you arent there right?
And you may claim she has never stolen from you because you've known her 5 yrs, and she'll tell you she won't, if you are paying enough. Which isn't hard to fathom. But she may laugh at your vulnerability and sense of trust when she is with her girlfriends or family behind your back.
I don't think you get it. If you believe all of that why would you give a hooker your debit card, knowing deep down she really has contempt for you? Your main value is the benefits you provide? Your fantasy, and her acting and the dinero is no different than anybody elses situation. And while you may believe your situation is better than other guys because they had problems, your gal could easily be playing the long game.
Somebody here said try entrusting more money around the chick and see what happens? I say do other wise. Stop being a WU novio. Stop supporting her family. Just stop all the bennies. Then continue allowing her to hold your debit card. Maybe then you'll get a chance to see a different side of her when you provide a different challenge. Hopefully she won't pass that debit card info over to somebody else instead? Maybe she won't steal from you, but will set out to look for another cash cow. That doesn't mean she was honest all of that time. It could mean she just thought she could get a lot more out of you in the long run, than simply stealing a few thousand dollars. You are probably providing way above what is necessary by WU and when you are with her. So why would she fuck that up for a few measily hundreds / thousands of dollars? It's not necessarily honesty one may possess. It may simply be about the circumstances placed in front of them. Some people appear honest, but they just haven't had the right test put in front of them.I understand that by going to a third world country and having P4 P, I am engaging in risky behaviour. Putas are generally untrustworthy, and I conduct myself accordingly, I don't take them at their word, don't buy their excuses, and don't rely on them to respect me or my stuff. I can find sexual satisfaction, even given those limitations (especially if she's hot LOL).
I have no illusions about the business relationship that exists between me and the GF. It is centred on money exchanged for sex (and in my case companionship). But it is possible for some of us to have a good employee / employer relationship at the same time. Some people enjoy working for some companies, while others hate it. Work can be a pleasurable experience or hell.
And, there will be no "long game" for this chica, as I limit my exposure to tolerable levels.
Have you tried changing your pin with each trip? That could add a layer of safety. Even in the states, I change my pins and passwords for everything regularly.That makes sense!
Charles Pooter
07-10-14, 19:18
I have had similar problem, confounding the bills because of same / similar color.
Don't enter the bomb disposal profession because you are color-blind. 500's are dark green. 50's are orange / brown. Very different.
20's and 200's are similar color to 50's, however. No good reason as there are plenty of other colors they could use such as grey, yellow or purple. I expect someone's brother-in-law gave them a bribe to use up some of the brown ink he in turn had been bribed to over-order.
I understand that by going to a third world country and having P4 P, I am engaging in risky behaviour.True, but not every monger is also giving a puta their wallet and debit card to hold for them. Thats a bit more risk than p4 p in a third world country.
Putas are generally untrustworthy, and I conduct myself accordingly, I don't take them at their word, don't buy their excuses, and don't rely on them to respect me or my stuff. I can find sexual satisfaction, even given those limitations (especially if she's hot LOL).Sounds commendable. And while you are supplying benefits with the understanding that you are preserving your bond (sexual fantasy arrangement) , that's one of the reasons why their word, excuses, respecting you, or your stuff is low on your priority list. In other words, those things don't matter that much because the beneficiaries of your resources are likely getting what they consider important from you anyway.
I have no illusions about the business relationship that exists between me and the GF. It is centred on money exchanged for sex (and in my case companionship). But it is possible for some of us to have a good employee / employer relationship at the same time. Some people enjoy working for some companies, while others hate it. Work can be a pleasurable experience or hell.
And, there will be no "long game" for this chica, as I limit my exposure to tolerable levels.It's already a long game for that chica. I hope you arent under the impression a chica playing the long game means at some point she is going to turn on you? Long game simply means she is and her family are playing you for as long as you tolerate it. One thought. If it's p4 p for sex from the chica, why on earth is a guy going above that, and supporting her family members too? It's a long game with that chica, you just want to sugar coat it for your own intents and purposes. But when it comes to other guys concerns disparage their experiences ( especially negative outcomes ) as if they don't share similar ideals and awarenesses that you have. No, because they shared a negative outcome, you assigned that they feel chicas are dirt, hoes, lowest of the low. Thats an interesting perspective you manifest. While making yourself out to seem more thoughtful and aware in comparison.
I agree 100% with all of this. My point was that comparing Oakie giving his girl his wallet with let's say a couple hundred bucks in it with leaving her with the equivalent of what that bobo that lost all that stuff was comparing apples and oranges, seor Bobo lost about $10 K or more in valuables, not too many DR chicas are going to walk away from that kind of payday.But it may be possible to lose that much (or enough to ones satisfaction) if a debit card is in that same wallet. If fraudulent charges are incurred, it may not add up to 10 k, but it could be significant enough to make it worth someones while. Mind you, I'm also saying, the card does not have to be attacked right away. That can happen weeks or months down the road when the card holder would not have a clue of who to suspect. And then happen again if the dude entrusts the next card the same way he did the 1st.
True, but not every monger is also giving a puta their wallet and debit card to hold for them. Thats a bit more risk than p4 p in a third world country.
Sounds commendable. And while you are supplying benefits with the understanding that you are preserving your bond (sexual fantasy arrangement) , that's one of the reasons why their word, excuses, respecting you, or your stuff is low on your priority list. In other words, those things don't matter that much because the beneficiaries of your resources are going to get most of what they want anyway.
It's already a long game for that chica. I hope you arent under the impression a chica playing the long game means at some point she is going to turn on you? Long game simply means she is and her family are playing you for as long as you tolerate it. One thought. If it's p4 p for sex from the chica, why on earth is a guy going above that, and supporting her family members too? It's a long game with that chica, you just want to sugar coat it for your own intents and purposes. But when it comes to other guys concerns disparage their experiences ( especially negative outcomes ) as if they don't share similar ideals and awarenesses that you have. No, because they shared a negative outcome, you assigned that they feel chicas are dirt, hoes, lowest of the low. Thats an interesting perspective you manifest. While making yourself out to seem more thoughtful in comparison.I don't "support" her family members. I pay her for sex and her companionship. But it's what she does with that money I find commendable. Some chicas would spend most of it on clothes, shoes, novios, even drugs.
And you know how these boards work, yet?
You post your opinions and experiences, and if some don't like it, so be it. We have no Royalty here to offend. No political correctness.
We're just mongers.
I don't "support" her family members. I pay her for sex and her companionship. But it's what she does with that money I find commendable. Some chicas would spend most of it on clothes, shoes, novios, even drugs.
And you know how these boards work, yet?
You post your opinions and experiences, and if some don't like it, so be it. We have no Royalty here to offend. No political correctness.
We're just mongers.If you are a WU novio, you are supporting her family. Her family thanking you for the money you gave her, says you are supporting them. If you are sending money when you are not even there to collect on the pussy, and she sends it to her family, you are not just paying to play. Arent you still giving her cash when you get there, and probably when you leave? In other words, the WU money you sent isn't enough to pay for the juice for the entire trip?
Oakie this isn't about not liking. You posted your concerns about some sort of outrage of other mongers, gave full detail on what you felt in regards to their alleged concerns. So I'm just offering a respectful take of my own in regards to what you shared. The point is, we all monger differently. All of us have made mistakes. Some could say allowing a chica to hold a debit card is a mistake. But there is no reason to disparage others character and experiences and presume you have it all together and they don't. If you can dish criticism, surely you can accept it. So I don't see a problem. Again, with all due respect.
Tempoecorto
07-10-14, 21:12
20's and 200's are similar color to 50's.I thought the 1000 peso bill was also red or what? Yes, I like 500 peso bills because they are green and stand out.
On that note, you should look at Indian money. No matter what the denomination, it is always Gandhi's picture. I wonder which idiot had thought of that. Thank god I go there once a decade otherwise I would lose a boat load of money because of that confusion.
Alexsandro
07-10-14, 21:15
How is the situation about Chikungunya infection in Sosua? Cases of infection are rare or very frequent?
Here this chica needs help too. I saw here two days later on the stripGrownMan this really is a picture of a Chica you sessioned with trying to recuperate from the pounding you gave her.
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