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There are three basic ways to monger in the DR. Thanks for this, OldKool. Got my tix to DR for first time in January. Usually I go to SoutheastAsia but want to sample the Caribbean cuisine, slim and stacked preferably. Here's my itinerary in case anyone has comments. It'd be cool to wing it with some DR vets. Maybe Tempecorto? (smile). Arrive in PUJ 11 Jan take bus to SD stay one night at Hotel Casa Coco. Then Metro bus for four days at Sousa, stay at Rocky's. Then southward to Santiago two days at Hotel Matum. Then bus to SD four nights at Dona Elvira. Then of course back to PUJ and home to California. Joined DC and have been corresponding with all kinds of busty honeys in my limited Spanish. Any comments appreciated.
I love your layout. You will have an awesome time, Invite your DC girls to meet you in SD. Especially if they do not live therer. Most DR chicas love going to the Capitol. It also puts you in control of the environment. I always pay the bus fare to get them there. Try to a have few backups available in case you get a no show. Go get them let us know how it goes.
Thanks for this, OldKool. Got my tix to DR for first time in January. Usually I go to SoutheastAsia but want to sample the Caribbean cuisine, slim and stacked preferably. Here's my itinerary in case anyone has comments. It'd be cool to wing it with some DR vets. Maybe Tempecorto? (smile). Arrive in PUJ 11 Jan take bus to SD stay one night at Hotel Casa Coco. Then Metro bus for four days at Sousa, stay at Rocky's. Then southward to Santiago two days at Hotel Matum. Then bus to SD four nights at Dona Elvira. Then of course back to PUJ and home to California. Joined DC and have been corresponding with all kinds of busty honeys in my limited Spanish. Any comments appreciated.
Thanks for this, OldKool. Got my tix to DR for first time in January. Usually I go to SoutheastAsia but want to sample the Caribbean cuisine, slim and stacked preferably. Here's my itinerary in case anyone has comments. It'd be cool to wing it with some DR vets. Maybe Tempecorto? (smile). Arrive in PUJ 11 Jan take bus to SD stay one night at Hotel Casa Coco. Then Metro bus for four days at Sousa, stay at Rocky's. Then southward to Santiago two days at Hotel Matum. Then bus to SD four nights at Dona Elvira. Then of course back to PUJ and home to California. Joined DC and have been corresponding with all kinds of busty honeys in my limited Spanish. Any comments appreciated.Where is this place called Sousa?
Since you don't explain your reason for any of your destinations and stays, nor your flight times, we cannot know if it is a good idea or not. If I was you, I would spend the first night in Santo Domingo, as you will probably have to, then get the Caribe tours express bus to Sosua in the morning and just stay in Sosua until you want to move on somewhere else, whether that be after one day or at the end of your stay. But that is just me. At this stage you don't even know what the weather will be like. In January it may be fine and cool or it may pour with rain all the time. From your suggestion of two nights in Santiago and five in Santo Domingo, it sounds like you would prefer to be in big cities most of the time, rather than at the beach, which is fine if that is what you want.
Mr Enternational
08-16-14, 18:31
There is no way in the hell you want to fly into Punta Cana and take the bus to Santo Domingo then to Sosua then all the way back to Punta Cana. Since you said California, that would be akin to taking a flight to San Diego in order to take the bus to Bakersfield then taking it back to San Diego. It would be better to try to fly to Puerto Plata first, Santiago second, and if push comes to shove Santo Domingo.
Are there flights from PUJ to Puerto Plata? I fly into PUJ.
There is no way in the hell you want to fly into Punta Cana and take the bus to Santo Domingo then to Sosua then all the way back to Punta Cana. Since you said California, that would be akin to taking a flight to San Diego in order to take the bus to Bakersfield then taking it back to San Diego. It would be better to try to fly to Puerto Plata first, Santiago second, and if push comes to shove Santo Domingo..
Mr Enternational
08-16-14, 22:25
Are there flights from PUJ to Puerto Plata? I fly into PUJ.
.Nope. And you are talking about bus rides totalling 8 hours each way.
Nope. And you are talking about bus rides totalling 8 hours each way.Yes, I read in the forum that one can meet girls on the bus and maybe even get some action. Plus I get to see the countryside.
I love your layout. You will have an awesome time, Invite your DC girls to meet you in SD. Especially if they do not live therer. Most DR chicas love going to the Capitol. It also puts you in control of the environment. I always pay the bus fare to get them there. Try to a have few backups available in case you get a no show. Go get them let us know how it goes.Good to know. Thanks, OK. If you're there then let buy you a beer or two.
Where is this place called Sousa?
Since you don't explain your reason for any of your destinations and stays, nor your flight times, we cannot know if it is a good idea or not. If I was you, I would spend the first night in Santo Domingo, as you will probably have to, then get the Caribe tours express bus to Sosua in the morning and just stay in Sosua until you want to move on somewhere else, whether that be after one day or at the end of your stay. But that is just me. At this stage you don't even know what the weather will be like. In January it may be fine and cool or it may pour with rain all the time. From your suggestion of two nights in Santiago and five in Santo Domingo, it sounds like you would prefer to be in big cities most of the time, rather than at the beach, which is fine if that is what you want.Hi Frannie, yes, my first night is in SD. I fly in late afternoon to PUJ from Atlanta. I think Sousa is right near Sosua haha.
Thanks for this, OldKool. Got my tix to DR for first time in January. Usually I go to SoutheastAsia but want to sample the Caribbean cuisine, slim and stacked preferably. Here's my itinerary in case anyone has comments. It'd be cool to wing it with some DR vets. Maybe Tempecorto? (smile). Arrive in PUJ 11 Jan take bus to SD stay one night at Hotel Casa Coco. Then Metro bus for four days at Sousa, stay at Rocky's. Then southward to Santiago two days at Hotel Matum. Then bus to SD four nights at Dona Elvira. Then of course back to PUJ and home to California. Joined DC and have been corresponding with all kinds of busty honeys in my limited Spanish. Any comments appreciated.Shiiiit I would have flew into SDQ. The flights and usually alot cheaper and followed that same game plan without PUJ. I still get to see the north and south coast, STI, and I saved myself 16 hours of bus riding. On a good note I like the planning ahead for SDQ and STI. Fuck the be plan get an A to F plan you have the time. I can hear the excited. We all remember our first. Good luck with keeping up the communication until JAN. I can only do about a month out from touching down.
Did you mean to say "Chicos" with Adams apples?Ahhh so you knew she was a man.
Yes, I read in the forum that one can meet girls on the bus and maybe even get some action. Plus I get to see the countryside.The reason you can sometimes get some action on the bus is that the chicas use the bus to travel to and from Sosua, so certain buses, like the last one on Friday evening into Sosua are likely to have some single women on board headed for Sosua for the weekend. The early morning buses are much less likely to have such passengers as chicas tend not to get up early unless they have kids.
Hi Frannie, yes, my first night is in SD. I fly in late afternoon to PUJ from Atlanta. I think Sousa is right near Sosua haha.Atlanta is a hub for Delta. They have connections to more convenient flights to Santo Domingo and Santiago, usually via New York.
Tempoecorto
08-17-14, 03:08
Here's my itinerary in case anyone has comments. It'd be cool to wing it with some DR vets. Maybe Tempecorto? (smile). Arrive in PUJ 11 Jan take bus to SD stay one night at Hotel Casa Coco. Then Metro bus for four days at Sousa, stay at Rocky's. Then southward to Santiago two days at Hotel Matum. Then bus to SD four nights at Dona Elvira. I am flattered Bro. My comments are in line with what others have stated.
1) I do not like SD. With its big city chaos and noise and what have you. However you have a bunch of people lined up, then it is a different story. But always have back up for each of them. As Old Kool says, often times there are no shows for a variety of reasons including no money for bus ride. I tell them to take the bus and I would reimburse but typically do not send money ahead of time. Also, unless you are into "casa", it might be hard for you to fish with limited Spanish the very first trip in SD.
2) I think spending more time in Sosua is a better idea as Frannie says. The fish is everywhere and it is a small walkable town and I understand one can even do without English although, personally I stay away from anyone who tries a bit of English on me. Also food is excellent including Dominican food.
3) You can invite the women from around Santiago (I do) and that may help you without having to travel to Santiago for two days unless your Santiago contacts cannot travel to Sosua. Limiting it to Sosua and SD as Mr E suggests, will allow you to spend more time fishing and less with move and new hotel and all that baloney.
My two cents.
P.S.: Have you already booked your hotels as well. I do not recognize any of the SD hotels from this forum. Perhaps others do.
Atlanta is a hub for Delta. They have connections to more convenient flights to Santo Domingo and Santiago, usually via New York.Well, the logistics from Sacramento to ATL are a little different but thanks for your reply. It turns out to be the cheapest and shortest flight on Southwest Airlines frequent flyer plan.
Well, the logistics from Sacramento to ATL are a little different but thanks for your reply. It turns out to be the cheapest and shortest flight on Southwest Airlines frequent flyer plan.Ah, well, a free flight is a free flight. Just concerns me that you are thinking of spending seven nights out of eleven in the large cities. Still, it is YOUR vacation, and no doubt you will have a lot of fun.
Any boots on the ground reports?
It appears that Brother P and I will be in town soon!
Ah, well, a free flight is a free flight. Just concerns me that you are thinking of spending seven nights out of eleven in the large cities. Still, it is YOUR vacation, and no doubt you will have a lot of fun.Thanks Frannie and Tempo. I haven't made any reservations besides the flight and Rocky's, yet. Some of the DC chicas in SD and Santiago that I've been corresponding with are super stacked and sexy so hence those locations but I do like the beach, too. Maybe I will get lucky on the bus, too. I can hardly wait. I love those Asian babes when I go there but its so hard to find big boobs there. I think DR is known for big boobs, yes? I'd like to hook up with Miosotis in Santiago if that's possible. Has anyone been with her?
Any boots on the ground reports?
It appears that Brother P and I will be in town soon!Are you bringing a priest with you to bless the activities your going to be partaking in while in Sosua?
Tempoecorto
08-19-14, 03:41
I think DR is known for big boobs, yes? I'd like to hook up with Miosotis in Santiago if that's possible. Has anyone been with her?I do not know any but then there might be 100's of Miyosotis around.
While there are big boobs, the slim waist and big boobs together are not that common. Actually rare, to my limited experience.
Are you bringing a priest with you to bless the activities your going to be partaking in while in Sosua?Not possible!
I would need to bring jesus, buddha, and mohammad with me to bless my activities!
Not possible!
I would need to bring jesus, buddha, and mohammad with me to bless my activities!Maybe they all want to partake with you on a gang-bang-LOL.
. I think DR is known for big boobs, yes?I think more appropriately Sosua is known for big booty's versus big boobs!
I do not know any but then there might be 100's of Miyosotis around.
While there are big boobs, the slim waist and big boobs together are not that common. Actually rare, to my limited experience.OK thanks, T. I don't mind some big ass if the boobs are proportionate.
Tempoecorto
08-20-14, 02:40
OK thanks, T. I don't mind some big ass if the boobs are proportionate.A picture is better than 1000 words. And there are six here!
A picture is better than 1000 words. And there are six here!I count 12!
Not much has change, except the chicas come out a bit later. There was a steady flow of chicas in Rumba last night.
Many can't afford the 200 pesos to get into Classico. I did not go myself because I got busy in a hurry in Ramba.
A picture is better than 1000 words. And there are six here!HA! Those are some nice chi chis, T. Thanks!
OK thanks, T. I don't mind some big ass if the boobs are proportionate.It was quite a view to behold.
Not a breast man but she is on the menu.
I just returned home after 5 days in Sosua.
A few observations.
1] It appears that the Gov is cleaning up the streets and directing prostitution into the clubs like Castro did with Havana.
2] There is a much more visible police presence on the streets than last year.
3] Many of the chicas are using cocaine which often leads to unpredictable behavior and mood swings. I had to report 2 girls to security at New Garden Hotel.
4] Don't go near the tap water- had a serious case of diarrhea all 5 days.
5) Always negotiate price and conduct a interview before going back to Hotel. GFE in Sosua is hard to come by and most of the girls are pros.
6] More of the Rapper want to bees from the US now coming to Sosua. These guys just hang at the pool all day long drinking the Hennessy, smoking blunts, blasting the hip hop and showing no respect to the locals.
Hope this helps.
Not a breast man but she is on the menu.Where, please, Mr. Kool? Thanks to RR, too. Keep those photos coming, gentlemen! They are highly motivational for me!
A few observations.
4] Don't go near the tap water- had a serious case of diarrhea all 5 days.
5) Always negotiate price and conduct a interview before going back to Hotel. GFE in Sosua is hard to come by and most of the girls are pros.
6] More of the Rapper want to bees from the US now coming to Sosua. These guys just hang at the pool all day long drinking the Hennessy, smoking blunts, blasting the hip hop and showing no respect to the locals.
Hope this helps.Good points. It is quite common to get amoebic infections like giardiasis from the tap water, and you should drink bottled water at all times and use it to brush your teeth too. You can buy medicines for these conditions over the counter in the DR and a course of metronidazole antibiotic and some loperamide tablets for the diarrhea would have helped.
Point 6 is also interesting. We read here sometimes of denial of service in restaurants, but without knowing the people concerned in person, it is hard to know if they are displaying signals or behaving in a manner that could trigger a negative response. A couple of points worth noting are that Dominicans tend to not like or disapprove of:
1. Smoking of any kind, especially cigars. Most Dominicans don't smoke and smoking is regarded as a negative behavior that creates a negative impression. Yes, it is allowed in outside bars, but it is not regarded positively.
2. Overt display of tattoos is looked down on.
3. Inappropriate dress, such as wearing wife-beater undershirt in restaurant, appearing in restaurant in exercise clothing or basketball kit.
4. Not greeting people appropriately. It is considered rude to speak to someone without first greeting them with a buen dia, buenas tardes, buenas noches, or even just a hola, before asking a question or asking for a menu, etc.
5. Overt displays of affection in public. One time I was eating in the New Cafe restaurant across the road from Club Residential. Also in the restaurant at one table was a family group with two young children and at another table a group of four adults, two men and two local women. The men at this last table were smoking cigarettes in between courses with smoke wafting over to the family group and while waiting for the main entree one of the women straddled one of the men on his chair and performed copulatory movements. Those guys probably did not know that they were doing anything wrong.
I have not stated whether the two men were Dominican or from another country, but I will let you draw your own conclusions.
Good points. It is quite common to get amoebic infections like giardiasis from the tap water, and you should drink bottled water at all times and use it to brush your teeth too. You can buy medicines for these conditions over the counter in the DR and a course of metronidazole antibiotic and some loperamide tablets for the diarrhea would have helped.
Point 6 is also interesting. We read here sometimes of denial of service in restaurants, but without knowing the people concerned in person, it is hard to know if they are displaying signals or behaving in a manner that could trigger a negative response. A couple of points worth noting are that Dominicans tend to not like or disapprove of:
1. Smoking of any kind, especially cigars. Most Dominicans don't smoke and smoking is regarded as a negative behavior that creates a negative impression. Yes, it is allowed in outside bars, but it is not regarded positively.
2. Overt display of tattoos is looked down on.
3. Inappropriate dress, such as wearing wife-beater undershirt in restaurant, appearing in restaurant in exercise clothing or basketball kit.
4. Not greeting people appropriately. It is considered rude to speak to someone without first greeting them with a buen dia, buenas tardes, buenas noches, or even just a hola, before asking a question or asking for a menu, etc.
5. Overt displays of affection in public. One time I was eating in the New Cafe restaurant across the road from Club Residential. Also in the restaurant at one table was a family group with two young children and at another table a group of four adults, two men and two local women. The men at this last table were smoking cigarettes in between courses with smoke wafting over to the family group and while waiting for the main entree one of the women straddled one of the men on his chair and performed copulatory movements. Those guys probably did not know that they were doing anything wrong.
I have not stated whether the two men were Dominican or from another country, but I will let you draw your own conclusions.Nice tips.
How about the wearing of shorts?
I notice that the local men rarely wear shorts no matter the temperature.
Is that considered offensive like wearing socks with flip-flops?
Charles Pooter
08-23-14, 03:04
How about the wearing of shorts?
I notice that the local men rarely wear shorts no matter the temperature.
Is that considered offensive like wearing socks with flip-flops?Shorts and flip-flops are only for the beach or poolside so no socks needed.
I recommend wearing socks with sandals, though.
- The DR is infested with ankle-biting critters.
- Shows you are a self-confident macho man who leads fashion, not follows it.
Once the authorities have rid the island of visitors wearing ball-caps sideways, fake gold chains and trousers low enough to show their ass-cracks, they will start to purge those wearing shorts in public areas.
Shorts and flip-flops are only for the beach or poolside so no socks needed.
I recommend wearing socks with sandals, though.
- The DR is infested with ankle-biting critters.
- Shows you are a self-confident macho man who leads fashion, not follows it.
Once the authorities have rid the island of visitors wearing ball-caps sideways, fake gold chains and trousers low enough to show their ass-cracks, they will start to purge those wearing shorts in public areas.Nice reply. Men are not allowed to enter government offices wearing shorts, nor women in low cut dresses with bare shoulders and their tits hanging out, so there is definitely a bit of stigma attached to shorts in the Dominican culture. In a very, very informal place like Sosua knee length shorts are OK, but wearing basketball shorts is still considered pretty tacky. I doubt whether it would stop you from getting served in a Sosua restaurant, but in Santo Domingo or Santiago, it would be very out of place. Dominican men do not usually display their ass-cracks, except possibly for a prostate examination. Ass-crack display may be seen in certain settings in North America, but there may be some restrictions in government offices. Always call ahead or when making a reservation if you wish to display your ass-crack to avoid disappointment.
Nice reply. Men are not allowed to enter government offices wearing shorts, nor women in low cut dresses with bare shoulders and their tits hanging out, so there is definitely a bit of stigma attached to shorts in the Dominican culture. In a very, very informal place like Sosua knee length shorts are OK, but wearing basketball shorts is still considered pretty tacky. I doubt whether it would stop you from getting served in a Sosua restaurant, but in Santo Domingo or Santiago, it would be very out of place. Dominican men do not usually display their ass-cracks, except possibly for a prostate examination. Ass-crack display may be seen in certain settings in North America, but there may be some restrictions in government offices. Always call ahead or when making a reservation if you wish to display your ass-crack to avoid disappointment.Why'all crack me up with this crap. We are talking about a place where a female can sell sex. We are talking about a place where drinking alcohol is done all day in some places. We are talking about a place where a greeting is a Presidente beer at 9 am. We are talking about a place where dudes try to pimp female family members.
Now you want to make people think SD and Sosua restaurants have a dress code. The only code is to have pesos. But it's very entertaining trying to see you and Sir Charles (ex pats) try to make people believe Sosua is this great paradise without sex.
Nice reply. Men are not allowed to enter government offices wearing shorts, nor women in low cut dresses with bare shoulders and their tits hanging out, so there is definitely a bit of stigma attached to shorts in the Dominican culture. In a very, very informal place like Sosua knee length shorts are OK, but wearing basketball shorts is still considered pretty tacky. I doubt whether it would stop you from getting served in a Sosua restaurant, but in Santo Domingo or Santiago, it would be very out of place. Dominican men do not usually display their ass-cracks, except possibly for a prostate examination. Ass-crack display may be seen in certain settings in North America, but there may be some restrictions in government offices. Always call ahead or when making a reservation if you wish to display your ass-crack to avoid disappointment.And while we are on the subject, the upcoming September 13th show in the Dominican Republic by Miley Cyrus in her Bangerz tour has been banned by the government. A government spokesman said " We are sick of people coming down here showing their ass-cracks, smoking marijuana, wearing headgear back-to-front, etc. So Miley Cyrus can just fuck right off back home again. ".
http://www.examiner.com/article/miley-cyrus-show-banned-dominican-republic
And while we are on the subject, the upcoming September 13th show in the Dominican Republic by Miley Cyrus in her Bangerz tour has been banned by the government. A government spokesman said " We are sick of people coming down here showing their ass-cracks, smoking marijuana, wearing headgear back-to-front, etc. So Miley Cyrus can just fuck right off back home again. ".
http://www.examiner.com/article/miley-cyrus-show-banned-dominican-republicWTF. Now I know it's over. This is terrible LOL.
In Sosua I wear what ever I want because we are incharge. As a black man I thought I could blend in the DR. Until I spent time on El Conde watching black men who stuck out as much as gringos. Clothing, shoes and hats all shouted Americans. The only downside is that you become a target for hustlers. In SD I rarely wear shorts and dress down a beat. This allows me to less visible. I think it makes me more acceptable to locals.
In Sosua I wear what ever I want because we are incharge. As a black man I thought I could blend in the DR. Until I spent time on El Conde watching black men who stuck out as much as gringos. Clothing, shoes and hats all shouted Americans. The only downside is that you become a target for hustlers. In SD I rarely wear shorts and dress down a beat. This allows me to less visible. I think it makes me more acceptable to locals.Huge difference between SD and Sosua in that regard. Sosua is a beach town, and what's more a vacation town. Shorts are absolutely fine during the day and probably acceptable at night if not too outrageous. In SD OTOH, one will really stand out wearing shorts anytime of the day or night.
ForceSteeler
08-23-14, 08:31
In Sosua I wear what ever I want because we are incharge. As a black man I thought I could blend in the DR. Until I spent time on El Conde watching black men who stuck out as much as gringos. Clothing, shoes and hats all shouted Americans. The only downside is that you become a target for hustlers. In SD I rarely wear shorts and dress down a beat. This allows me to less visible. I think it makes me more acceptable to locals.Where what ever you want. At the end of the day we come to Sosua for the women, and the women of sosua do not care.
Good points. It is quite common to get amoebic infections like giardiasis from the tap water, and you should drink bottled water at all times and use it to brush your teeth too. You can buy medicines for these conditions over the counter in the DR and a course of metronidazole antibiotic and some loperamide tablets for the diarrhea would have helped.
Point 6 is also interesting. We read here sometimes of denial of service in restaurants, but without knowing the people concerned in person, it is hard to know if they are displaying signals or behaving in a manner that could trigger a negative response. A couple of points worth noting are that Dominicans tend to not like or disapprove of:
1. Smoking of any kind, especially cigars. Most Dominicans don't smoke and smoking is regarded as a negative behavior that creates a negative impression. Yes, it is allowed in outside bars, but it is not regarded positively.
2. Overt display of tattoos is looked down on.
3. Inappropriate dress, such as wearing wife-beater undershirt in restaurant, appearing in restaurant in exercise clothing or basketball kit.
4. Not greeting people appropriately. It is considered rude to speak to someone without first greeting them with a buen dia, buenas tardes, buenas noches, or even just a hola, before asking a question or asking for a menu, etc.
5. Overt displays of affection in public. One time I was eating in the New Cafe restaurant across the road from Club Residential. Also in the restaurant at one table was a family group with two young children and at another table a group of four adults, two men and two local women. The men at this last table were smoking cigarettes in between courses with smoke wafting over to the family group and while waiting for the main entree one of the women straddled one of the men on his chair and performed copulatory movements. Those guys probably did not know that they were doing anything wrong.
I have not stated whether the two men were Dominican or from another country, but I will let you draw your own conclusions.One should cut a brother, especially a newbie, a little slack on this political correctness stuff.
It may be hard for him to comprehend that folks in a a town who's major source of income is derived from selling the bodies of young girls to old tourists, beer and cigars, can get a little uptight about a dress code.
So, as long as your cap is on straight, and your shorts are pulled up, it's ok to walk hand in hand with a girl young enough to be your great granddaughter through town on the way back to your room at the New Garden.
The puta may be on drugs, but please do not light that locally made cigar in public.
Or is it just some crusty old mongers who are mainly offended?
I'm reminded of the time back home in a local illegal brothel. I had two strange ladies all over me trying to get me off, while I was smiling a the big prominent sign on the wall, No Smoking, $5,000 fine.
One should cut a brother, especially a newbie, a little slack on this political correctness stuff.
It may be hard for him to comprehend that folks in a a town who's major source of income is derived from selling the bodies of young girls to old tourists, beer and cigars, can get a little uptight about a dress code.
So, as long as your cap is on straight, and your shorts are pulled up, it's ok to walk hand in hand with a girl young enough to be your great granddaughter through town on the way back to your room at the New Garden.
The puta may be on drugs, but please do not light that locally made cigar in public.
Or is it just some crusty old mongers who are mainly offended?
I'm reminded of the time back home in a local illegal brothel. I had two strange ladies all over me trying to get me off, while I was smiling a the big prominent sign on the wall, No Smoking, $5,000 fine.So what is the explanation for the Miley Cyrus tour being cancelled? It is that the Dominican authorities see her as a very poor role model for their youth, plus they don't want to deal with the hassle of having to arrest her for smoking blunts onstage--or finding out that they are just stage props made from herbal tobacco. (Of course, another explanation could be that she just didn't sell enough tickets and was looking for an excuse.).
So I don't think Dominicans perceive the idea of putas using recreational drugs as something to be tolerated--more something that they don't give any thought to. Nor do I think that old men walking hand in hand with young putas is something that Dominicans particularly approve of, even in Sosua, especially in front of schoolchildren coming out of local schools like the one next to Classico disco. It is tolerated sure, but the current trend in Sosua is to make prostitution as invisible as possible.
Personally I don't care what people wear in Sosua. In any case people are pretty much restricted to what leisure clothing is available where they live. For example, short sleeve shirts are hard to find in the UK, and people don't buy them just for vacation use, so in hot weather you will even see wealthy young men like Prince William photographed wearing a long sleeve shirt with the sleeves rolled upm which I would never do. You will probably see them on vacation in the DR too.
http://images.tangomag.com/sites/default/files/misc-assets/williamandkate.jpg.jpg
It is just that some posters here have recently reported denial of service in restaurants and stores that I have not personally experienced in more than 50 visits to the DR, plus living there for an extended period, and I have suggested a few points of etiquette that could possibly lead to Dominicans forming a negative impression of some visitors that might be borne in mind. Nothing to do with "political correctness".
In Sosua I wear what ever I want because we are incharge. As a black man I thought I could blend in the DR. Until I spent time on El Conde watching black men who stuck out as much as gringos. Clothing, shoes and hats all shouted Americans. The only downside is that you become a target for hustlers. In SD I rarely wear shorts and dress down a beat. This allows me to less visible. I think it makes me more acceptable to locals.There is no reason for foreigners to instantly stand out. I met Tempoecorto at the Puerto Plata airport a few years ago the first time he set foot on Dominican soil, and right from the moment he came through the swinging doors, you could not tell he was not a Dominican until he opened his mouth and started speaking Italian with a few Spanish words thrown into the mix. He walked right out of the airport, hailed a publico taxi going in the right direction, and piled in just like a Dominican.
Now, of course, he speaks Spanish like a Dominican, only minus subjunctives. Being unobtrusive is not that difficult.
It is just that some posters here have recently reported denial of service in restaurants and stores that I have not personally experienced in more than 50 visits to the DR, plus living there for an extended period, and I have suggested a few points of etiquette that could possibly lead to Dominicans forming a negative impression of some visitors that might be borne in mind. Nothing to do with "political correctness".For the most part, I am with you Frannie.
I've spent a lot of time with Dominicans where they live, and I've blended in as much as it is possible for a white Canadian to do. I'm respectful, especially when it comes to smoking, I always leave the table, the room, or the street party to smoke, in spite of their protestations that it's ok.
I see a lot of idiotic behavior amongst tourists down there, but they're spending their own money so I don't concern myself with what others do, or how they do it. I don't feel it gives me personally a bad rep.
The reverse is probably true, the worse others behave, the more they see me as a "good" gringo, LOL.
Complainig about "bad taste" in the sewer that is Sosua, strikes me as a little odd, that's all.
We're not talking Monaco or Bermuda here.
Charles Pooter
08-23-14, 16:06
... short sleeve shirts are hard to find in the UKBizarre assertion, unless you are writing of the Hebrides. You have been away from the UK for a long time, haven't you?
bizarre assertion, unless you are writing of the hebrides. you have been away from the uk for a long time, haven't you?not really. yes, of course you can get short sleeve shirts or tennis shirts in the uk, but the reason why prince william wears a long-sleeved shirt with the sleeves rolled up is that he wants to give the impression that he is just like an ordinary bloke who doesn't own something like the dozens of ralph lauren polo shirts that wills probably has in his closet back at the palace.
most of the time in the uk it is too cold for long sleeve shirts, so most guys never buy them just for the occasional hot day or a vacation overseas. see pictures.
most people just buy what is available and on sale in the local mall wherever they live. i swim every today and i prefer trunks or speedo style briefs, but they are hard to find in the us and expensive too, so i wear the surfer shorts that are popular in the us. ugly and hard to swim in, but cheap. i needed some new ones today so i picked up some green ones in walmart. they were $5 plus 35 cents tax. screw the color and screw the style. they were $5 and they will last me a few years. i could wear them in the street in sosua if i was on the way to the beach. i wouldn't, but i could.
i got this shirt the other day. not exactly my taste, but hey for $3 with my seniors discount, i'll take it.
We're not talking Monaco or Bermuda here.I lived in Bermuda for several years. One thing in common with the DR is that you MUST greet people like taxi drivers or shop staff with a "good morning" before you ask for something or you WILL be ignored. In Bermuda shorts can be worn for business situations or lunch, but must be at or just above the knee and worn with knee stockings and lace up shoes, not trainers. Not allowed in the evening, though. See picture. Gloves are not normally worn in Bermuda, but he is a traffic cop directing traffic.
Tempoecorto
08-23-14, 23:26
There is no reason for foreigners to instantly stand out. Ha, speaking of subjuntives, just got a msg with a pic: (quiero que me folle'.
I think I make what the statisticians call a biased sample, speaking of your post. Many in Sosua are first time out of the country (referring to US of course). I am not young. Young people tend to stand out by their dress code, without referring to their ethnicity. Finally, I am interested in women of course but also in an experience as an insider. Something I could not in my business travel days. So, I tried the carro publico at POP thanks to you and later tried the same at STI and recently a similar but somwhat more convoluted one, at SDQ.
And one does stand out: these days people in the DR often wonder if I am not a Chileno. I guess partly owed to my (Indios) eyes (thanks, Genghiz Khan), when they cannot place my accent!
I lived in Bermuda for several years. One thing in common with the DR is that you MUST greet people like taxi drivers or shop staff with a "good morning" before you ask for something or you WILL be ignored. In Bermuda shorts can be worn for business situations or lunch, but must be at or just above the knee and worn with knee stockings and lace up shoes, not trainers. Not allowed in the evening, though. See picture. Gloves are not normally worn in Bermuda, but he is a traffic cop directing traffic.Ah, Bermuda, beautiful place. Very civilized. Tea and scones with clotted cream, but no mongering to be had.
Ah, Bermuda, beautiful place. Very civilized. Tea and scones with clotted cream, but no mongering to be had.It was long before my mongering days, but there was some to be had, I know, because I knew a woman who provided a discreet service to tourists who was my coworker. I was there for 11 years, but I never heard of tea and scones with clotted cream when I was there in the eighties. It WAS served on British Airways on the London to Bermuda flight, though.
Chris Long
08-25-14, 02:53
I just returned home after 5 days in Sosua.
A few observations.
1] It appears that the Gov is cleaning up the streets and directing prostitution into the clubs like Castro did with Havana.
2] There is a much more visible police presence on the streets than last year.
3] Many of the chicas are using cocaine which often leads to unpredictable behavior and mood swings. I had to report 2 girls to security at New Garden Hotel.
4] Don't go near the tap water- had a serious case of diarrhea all 5 days.
5) Always negotiate price and conduct a interview before going back to Hotel. GFE in Sosua is hard to come by and most of the girls are pros.
6] More of the Rapper want to bees from the US now coming to Sosua. These guys just hang at the pool all day long drinking the Hennessy, smoking blunts, blasting the hip hop and showing no respect to the locals.
Hope this helps.Thanks for the update it is well appreciated. Its so rare that we get anything of any real use any more. I had the same experience back in May very few GFE and very professional (not in a good way) service in the bedroom. What prices were the chicas asking. When I was there in May they were pushing real hard to make 2000 p the new norm for what is now mostly professional mechanical service.
Chris
Chris Long
08-25-14, 02:55
Not much has change, except the chicas come out a bit later. There was a steady flow of chicas in Rumba last night.
Many can't afford the 200 pesos to get into Classico. I did not go myself because I got busy in a hurry in Ramba.Thanks Tomjackin its good to get some useful information. What prices are the chicas pushing for. When I was there in May they were pushing real hard to make 2000 P the new norm for short time.
Chris
http://www.sosuanews.com/mobi.php?id=3808&article=1 If this is true I'm a little bummed that I'm about 2 weeks too early.
Woke up still drunk! Tomjackin and those Damn shots! Lmao. Who chases liquor with liquor? We do muthafuckas! Good Times!
Tempoecorto
08-25-14, 16:15
Thanks for the update it is well appreciated. Its so rare that we get anything of any real use any more.
ChrisGiven that you are after some useful information, I will give you another bit: Sosua prices are not like CBOT quotes. The asking Price has not varied ever since I saw it first time. In July 2011. The bid price can be 1000,1500, 2000,3000 pesos depending on who you ask, time of day, language and comm skills, and on how long you want to consort and similar. Of course some also pay additional. Having to deal with stuff stolen, cops and so forth but that is not quite the norm. This info will presumably serve you for the next 3 years.
I haven't made any reservations besides the flight and Rocky's, yet. Some of the DC chicas in SD and Santiago that I've been corresponding with are super stacked and sexy so hence those locations but I do like the beach, too. Maybe I will get lucky on the bus, too. I can hardly wait. I love those Asian babes when I go there but its so hard to find big boobs there. I think DR is known for big boobs, yes? I'd like to hook up with Miosotis in Santiago if that's possible. Has anyone been with her?If you are taking the time to meet these girls on line then go ahead and ask them their price before you ever arrive. If not I know they will upset you when they tell you the price in person. Most women in the DR will go with you for much cheaper than their first offer but you must go through the negotiation process.
Woke up still drunk! Tomjackin and those Damn shots! Lmao. Who chases liquor with liquor? We do muthafuckas! Good Times!And more to come tonight!
I have heard talk from people who are there that Willy the owner of D--Latins says he is going to re-open the place in 3 weeks.
He also wants to run for Mayor next year and thinks he can win. (He is currently Vice-Mayor).
So much for the BS that there was "Big-Money" behind this crackdown. There is no "Big-Money" going onto Sosua. Perhaps nothing more than a few small time newbies who think they can break new ground and are big losers.
Also once and for all the new cruiseport is not going to have any effect on Sosua. That's the biggest joke I have heard yet. It again looks like this crackdown was just another chapter in "Sosua-Politics as Usual".
Mr Enternational
08-26-14, 23:01
I have heard talk from people who are there that Willy the owner of D--Latins says he is going to re-open the place in 3 weeks.
He also wants to run for Mayor next year and thinks he can win. (He is currently Vice-Mayor).Scroll down and you will see the article that BoredInIN posted on this a few days ago.
Scroll down and you will see the article that BoredInIN posted on this a few days ago.Sorry about that. I just scrolled by and did not open the link.
Like people are saying on here Sosua is crawling with 5-0 Amet is every where but they are mostly checking Dominicans I had 1 motion to me to put my seat belt on. I was so thankful he did not give me a ticket that I motion him over and shook his hand for being fair with me. No propina no nothing.
ForceSteeler
08-28-14, 13:47
Heading to Sosua in October. Anybody got any latest info?
Like people are saying on here Sosua is crawling with 5-0 Amet is every where but they are mostly checking Dominicans I had 1 motion to me to put my seat belt on. I was so thankful he did not give me a ticket that I motion him over and shook his hand for being fair with me. No propina no nothing.What is 5-0 and AMET. I'm guessing based on what I've seen in Sosua in the past that the police are looking for people wearing helmets on moto-conchos and seat belts in cars?
What is 5-0 and AMET?Hawaii Five-O was a TV series based on the fictional exploits of a special state police task force in Hawaii, starring Jack Lord as Lieutenant Steve McGarrret. The show was named in honor of Hawaii being the 50th state, but the name of the show was always pronounced Five-Oh (like the letter), not Five-Zero (like the number) for some reason.
I suspect 5-0 is just being used here as a generic nickname for an island police force.
AMET stands for Autoridad Metropolitana de Transporte, or the Dominican traffic police. Here in a video we seem them handing out a ticket to a motorist who is not totally happy with the situation.
http://tu.tv/videos/los-abusos-de-amet-en-republica-dominica
Given that you are after some useful information, I will give you another bit: Sosua prices are not like CBOT quotes. The asking Price has not varied ever since I saw it first time. In July 2011. The bid price can be 1000,1500, 2000,3000 pesos depending on who you ask, time of day, language and comm skills, and on how long you want to consort and similar. Of course some also pay additional. Having to deal with stuff stolen, cops and so forth but that is not quite the norm. This info will presumably serve you for the next 3 years.If you want to pay 1000 pesos for sex, you can offer that and walk away if the offer is not taken up. My feeling is that if you negotiate a price that is lower than what the chica thinks is reasonable, you may set yourself up for getting something stolen or poor performance, or attempts to leave early, or attempts to renegotiate after the fact. Or the chica may refuse your offer and them come back to you later when her friends are not in earshot. Of course you might make a very reasonable bid and still run into all of those problems.
To my mind 2000 pesos is not completely unreasonable, bearing in mind that it is a little less than $50 and that money does not go far in the DR. I know some people will say they can get the same thing at home for less. Well, if that is the case don't pay it. I don't pay $15 for a haircut in the US when I can get the same thing done better in the DR for $5. Ditto with knob on for dental work. However make sure you are comparing like for like. For example, is it legal to pay for sex where you live? In the US, no. In Canada or England, yes.
Other people will say "$50 for an hour's work? That is more than I make at home!" But this is assuming that the chica is turning 8 tricks a day with health insurance and paid vacation provided, which is obviously not the case, and the chica may only get tricks now and again, so don't assume that you can relate this to the hourly rate that you earn in your own job back home to determine fair reimbursement.
What is 5-0 and AMET. I'm guessing based on what I've seen in Sosua in the past that the police are looking for people wearing helmets on moto-conchos and seat belts in cars?Frannie explained it better than I would have and he is right.
As far as what they are looking for it be everything but especially what you have mentioned. I watched amet put eyes on a motor that was night right and they walked straight up made them stop get off there bike and start walking. I ask the guy who was driving the bike if he would get it back and he replied no. I have been reading in the Santo Domingo news for weeks about the thousands of moto's they are taking and not returning to the people. No matter what the reason it is sad to see this happen.
Tempoecorto
08-28-14, 20:42
If you want to pay 1000 pesos for sex, you can offer that and walk away if the offer is not taken up. My feeling is that if you negotiate a price that is lower than what the chica thinks is reasonable, you may set yourself up for getting something stolen or poor performance, or attempts to leave early, or attempts to renegotiate after the fact.Sensible thoughts, all of them.
I was just responding to those that are focused on "how much", which really has not oscillated in the 3 years I know the place. My very first time was IN Sosua as you know, but never negotiated price and never had an issue and I never splurge. Perhaps now it is different and I have not needed Sosua in a long time. I would still argue that the whole thing is so much a factor of chemistry, which in turn depends on so many extrinsic factors not all of which are within one's control: focusing on price may lead the Sosua visitors miss the forest for the tree, in the grand scheme of "having a great time".
AMET stands for Autoridad Metropolitana de Transporte, or the Dominican traffic police. Here in a video we seem them handing out a ticket to a motorist who is not totally happy with the situation.
http://tu.tv/videos/los-abusos-de-amet-en-republica-dominicaMy Spanish is limited but I think the video was about the violence / tactics and abuse used by AMET with the citizens and the chief trying to explain things away. Almost kind of like here in the USA!
I have been reading in the Santo Domingo news for weeks about the thousands of moto's they are taking and not returning to the people. No matter what the reason it is sad to see this happen.If the police are taking peoples moto-conchos away for not wearing a helmet I don't find it sad to happen. Anyone who rides a moto-concho without a helmet is crazy. It amazes me to see everyone riding them wearing shorts / sandals and no helmet but unfortunately its the cheapest way for people to get around. I've also noticed that Dominicans do not like to walk and will take a moto-concho even for very short distances.
Just got back from Sosua. 5th trip there over 2 year span. However, it was my first trip to DR during the summer. The amount of tourists were way down but plenty of fish in the sea. Actually saw more walking around during the day. Same old, same old without the'Latins and replaced by Classicos. The 200 Peso entry fee at Classicos keeps some of the lower level talent out of the club though I only went there once. Restaurants slow but plenty of girls walking the loop all day. I caught part of the storm that blew through so it rained for 3 days. I spent some of that time by getting a few normal massages, mani-pedi, facial etc. For massage, M&M was very good at the mall where Orange Telephone Store is. Owner's name is Mary and I had 2 excellent massages for 800 Pesos per hour. One from Luz Maria and I can't remember the others name. For the other Salon stuff I went to Yolandas and Susans right across from Terra Linda Hotel. Fiore is the girl that I used and she was excellent at everything including normal massage, not to mention not hard on the eyes. Their list prices are not too different from US prices but they quickly negotiated down.
I think I did 6 different girls. All Dominicanas this trip. One whom I knew from previous trips I spent 2 nights with another who was a starfish night one but was so hot I followed up with a second and third time. As is usually typical she was far more comfortable and better in the rack on the second and third sessions. As seems to be the rule in the DR most were the standard 3 minute blow job followed by the mount. Other than the one bad night, all the sessions were good with one session being excellent. No open mouthed kissing except for the one really hot session I had. Attached are a few photos of four of the six I was with. All in all, I actually enjoyed this summer trip and would definitely go back again during the summer. As always the case, if anyone recognizes any of these girls even with the blurred faces don't be dicks and say anything to them.
Camaro1257
08-29-14, 05:51
Camaro's Sosua Synopsis August 2014.
Gentleman I just completed my Sosua -Jarbacoa excursion. This brief report will contain my notes for those who are interested in the updates from Sosua. Most of the information contained within will be known to veteran North Coast mongers but for newbies who want to explore Sosua this template can be an asset. This report is a companion to my Jarabacoa & Santiago synopsis reports.
Below I have listed my thoughts for your review.
New Garden Hotel.
When I first cut my teeth in Sosua I stayed at the New Garden Hotel quite frequently but I subsequently gave up on it because I did not care for the frat, noisy atmosphere. I decided to try it again to see if anything has changed; plus I like being within walking distance strip.
My room was very comfortable with good air-conditioning and strong WIFI. The room was clean and the staff was professional. I did not notice any of the frat high jinks of old but maybe it was because it was low season. New Garden has been known for in-house chicas but I only saw 2 none of which I felt were worthy of my pesos.
Victoria House.
I originally booked the Victoria House summer special because I wanted to see the difference between the old and the new wing however the old wing was not available so I stayed in the new wing like I had in my previous visits. Of course the view of the Sosua Bay is the primarily selling point.
Some people have various complaints about Victoria House but my only previous complaint would be some of the furniture and fixtures are dated but over all I have had a great stay there and the staff is great. This trip my reservation was misplaced and when it was located I was given the wrong key to my room. I was given another room but the WIFI did not work so the manager upgraded me to the Jacuzzi room. The WIFI worked excellent on the first part of my stay but the last 2 days it was intermittent therefore I had to go outside my room to use the internet.
*It should be noted that the grounds on both properties were well maintained and pleasing to the eye.
Dulce Secreto.
I ran into a Haitiana without a cedula so I decided to visit a cabana. Dulce Secreto is the only cabana that I know of in Sosua. It has 10 rooms starting from 600 DOP-800 DOP for 4 hours. The low end are basic rooms and the high end are Jacuzzi rooms. The rooms are very comfortable with cold air-conditioning and Flat Screen TV's. They provide 2 condoms for your using pleasure.
There is also a drink and food menu available.
Pedro Clisante update August 27,2014.
The primary change on Pedro Clisante (west) since my July trip is The Spot is closed. The Latins is still closed and Rumba is slow and far from its glory days. Below I have listed my observations:
• City Lights:
City Lights is as dead as a door knob and might as well be closed for all intensive purposes. Apparently they are closed on Sunday's.
• Rumbas:
Rumbas is still the late afternoon early evening gathering spot but the talent pool during the week leaves much to be desired. The talent level was low mostly 6's with a few 7's sprinkled in nothing to brag about.
• The Premium Disco Bar:
The Premium Disco Bar had chairs on the sidewalk and there was more of a crowd than my last trip and less security.
• The Spot:
The Spot is closed the doors are locked and the Flat screen TV's that were on the walls have been taken down. I was wondering how that place was staying afloat because since El Rey left it has crashed.
• The Winners Circle:
I saw a little crowd there each time I walked by but mostly people standing out front.
• Merengue:
Merengue is my favorite spot in the late evening because of the friendly staff and light snack they serve wings sandwiches etc. The kitchen is closed on Mondays. I also like being able to watch the chica parade up to Classicos through the glass partitions. They exchange money at wait for it. Yes 35 DOP to 1 US that's right gentleman so you might want to avoid changing money there.
• Classicos:
The crown of Sosua night life. Right now if Classicos was not open Sosua night life for mongers would suck! I enjoy the night club atmosphere and air-conditioning. Sosua's best comes out even on slow nights you can find a few 8's in the house. They open at 11 pm and it is on and poppin by 1 am. I enjoy everything about Classicos the drinks are a little expensive but that is a small price to pay for the chica parade you get to witness. During the week it is very comfortable however it is reported that on the weekends there are definitely fire code violations by US standards because it gets so crowded.
• Mamajuana Cafe:
The Mamajuana Cafe is closed on Sundays and is still a chill spot but it has very little traffic during the week. This another spot that is having difficulty surviving.
Speaking Spanish.
There is a proverb derived from the original Latin which says "when in Rome do as the Romans do. " When I went to Brazil and Thailand I did not thoroughly enjoy my experience because I could neither speak Portuguese or Thai. Although I love women like we all do I also enjoy the immersion experience and one of the best ways to immerse ourselves in the countries we visit is by speaking the language. Speaking Spanish in Latin American countries may not always be necessary but it is bound to enhance the travel experience.
We previously had a discussion about the pros and cons of speaking Spanish in Sosua. Some PFP chicas appreciate the effort and the ability to communicate with them enhances your experience, but other chicas do not want clients who speak Spanish because it signals to them you are less of a mark and they are less likely to be able to take advantage of you.
I have discovered it is not just speaking Spanish it is the topic of your conversation. I talk about the decline of Sosua and how foul some of the chicas are with their clients, some are willing to engage me in that conversation and some quite frankly do not want to hear it and will politely excuse themselves in a heart beat.
I realize that if I can't have a conversation with a PFP chica I surly won't be able to have a conversation with a civilian chica. Since communication is the life blood of any successful relationship I need to get my blood pumping as much as I can.
Taking Photos.
I have developed a strategy of trying to approach chicas with a sense of humor and conversation like there is a possibility of a friendship rather than a strict PFP client relationship so once we are comfortable with one another and after the exchange Facebook information I will try to get a "Selfie" of us together. I find most women who feel comfortable with me will take a picture together and if they won't I consider it a yellow if not a red flag. My thought is "why wouldn't you take a picture with a potential friend especially if you have already shared Facebook information?" Sometimes when they are too professional or too diva for photos I will abandon the pursuit depending on my assessment of the situation.
Photos are important to me not just for my individual archive but also in the event something goes wrong I will be able to identify the chica going forward and also give warning to other mongers.
My Chica observations.
I rarely refer to PFP chicas as a "puta," "cuero" or "chapiadora" because I believe the aforementioned terms do not necessarily describe a person but an attitude a mentality and a lifestyle. I have great respect for some chicas even though they are prostitutes they are good people and at victims of economic necessity; conversely some have made PFP a career and treat you like a client or worse and the experience you have with them is professional or maybe horrible. Whenever a chica demonstrates the characteristics of a "puta," "cuero" or "chapiadora" I walk away and do not look back.
None of the chicas I was with required the crazy "cien" or some other God forsaken number I was able to stay within the 1500-2000 DOP mark. I broke my rule and paid one chica 2500ST because I read her to be high end and I did not want to get into a back and forth negotiation with her. She was a chica I wanted to be with for quite some time however if she becomes a regular we will have to re-negotiate the terms.
The sex this trip varied from very good to fair and I am grateful I had none of the chica drama that has been reported by other members over the years.
Thoughts to ponder.
If we look at the recent past actions of the Dominican government a pattern emerges. The gringo figures or establishments that were noticeably directly or indirectly connected to prostitution in Sosua have been adversely effected.
1. The owner of Passions was incarcerated for a period and his business was shut down.
2. Cuba-Dave the most vocal and visible advocate of Passions and CMP reportedly was asked to leave the Dominican Republic and not to return.
3. The owner of Rumba was briefly incarcerated and has left the Dominican Republic.
4. Most recently the primary promoter of the Victoria House pool parties was detained and extorted.
The evidence indicates that this thing of ours as we knew it in Sosua is on the decline and it is unknown what the future will hold. It is obvious from the aforementioned pattern that the government's intention is to change the face of Sosua therefore those who are interested in Dominican Republic and Sosua specifically as a mongering destination need to be prepared to flow with the transition.
In my case this trip included a 2 day excursion to Jarabacoa and a day trip to Santiago in preparation for the pending Sosua shift.
El país que odio al amor.
Right now I have a love hate relationship with the Dominican Republic. I love the white sand beaches of Punta Cana but I hate the underground tourist industry that wants to suck you dry like a leech sucking blood out its host. I love the beautiful women but I hate the fact that even some of the civilians treat you like a cajero automatico. The biggest problem I have is with the corruption in government specifically the criminal justice system which seems not to operate based on the rule of law but the rule of who you know and how much money you have.
However, show me Utopia and I will show you the figment of someone's imagination. Fortunately, I have not been adversely affected by any of the negative things that have been reported by other board members therefore I intend to go forward walking circumspectly and keep a low profile while I am in the Dominican Republic.
Conclusion.
Not only do I have a love hate relationship with the Dominican Republic I also feel the same way about Sosua. Sosua can get old and boring real quick especially for me since I have been traveling to Sosua for over 5 years, therefore it is time for me to explore more of the Island. I see great potential in Santiago and Puerto Plata so future trips will include those destinations on the travel itinerary.
My next trip will be a Sosua-Bonao excursion the first week in October. Bonao is reported to be the Sosua for Dominicans therefore I must dig deeper into my Spanish so I can have a better experience there.
No puedo esperar.
If the police are taking peoples moto-conchos away for not wearing a helmet I don't find it sad to happen. Anyone who rides a moto-concho without a helmet is crazy. It amazes me to see everyone riding them wearing shorts / sandals and no helmet but unfortunately its the cheapest way for people to get around. I've also noticed that Dominicans do not like to walk and will take a moto-concho even for very short distances.More than enough drivers of motos own helmets, but just won't wear them. A buddy of mine bought a young driver he took a liking to a helmet so he wouldn't have any problems with the authorities, and of course for safety. Later, he's seen driving all over the place without the damn thing on. Asked him why, and he just shrugged his shoulders, but claimed he would start wearing it. We surmised he probably sold it.
The thing I wished was enforced is when Motos are going down the wrong way of the street, or coming from around corners into traffic without looking. Or passing in a drivers blind spot, turning corners immediately to the side of the car that's also turning, and then darting in front, almost getting hit. Those are the motos that should learn a lesson. I talked to the Fire Chief in Charimicos back in June. He said recent fatalities and serious injuries occurred in one month, mostly the result of moto accidents or cars hitting motos.
ConquerorVal
08-29-14, 16:44
All in all, I actually enjoyed this summer trip and would definitely go back again during the summer.Really, fine looking ladies Solley. I prefer travelling during low seasons. It has its advantages, and from your report it sounds like things are still pretty good in Sosua.
Attached are a few photos of four of the six I was with. As always the case, if anyone recognizes any of these girls even with the blurred faces don't be dicks and say anything to them.Nice bodies on those chicas, can we have permission to put our dicks in them as long as we don't say anything to them?
Mr Enternational
08-29-14, 19:40
My next trip will be a Sosua-Bonao excursion the first week in October. Bonao is reported to be the Sosua for Dominicans therefore I must dig deeper into my Spanish so I can have a better experience there.Wow. That is my first time hearing that Bonao is the Sosua for Domincans. Out of the few times that I have been, it reminded me nothing of Sosua. The girl I was with there in June was probably the best chick that I saw there the whole time, and even she didn't look that good in the light. She takes good ass pictures though. My brother's girlfriend lives there too. She is probably the best looking chick in Bonao. Prepare to stay at the Aquarius Hotel ($37/ night) http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g1439031-d338379-Reviews-Aquarius_Hotel_Bar_Restaurant-Bonao_Monsenor_Nouel_Province_Dominican_Republic.html because it is pretty much the only hotel there besides the cabana that me and my other brother took some chicks to a couple of years back. Aquarius has the best (probably only) club in town attached to it. There were mostly guys in the club. The few girls that were there were with a guy and the ones without were maybe a 4 if that. The drinks were cheap as hell though. I think I had about 4 rum and cokes, and my girl and her friend had 3 Presidentes each and the bill came to like 400 pesos. I gave dude 500 pesos and got the hell out of there.
There is also a hotel out on the main highway. I didn't want to stay there WITH a car, so I know you won't be staying there without one. I should be down that way around that time. If I am I will pass through and holler at you.
Camaro1257
08-29-14, 21:42
Wow. That is my first time hearing that Bonao is the Sosua for Domincans. Out of the few times that I have been, it reminded me nothing of Sosua. The girl I was with there in June was probably the best chick that I saw there the whole time, and even she didn't look that good in the light. She takes good ass pictures though. My brother's girlfriend lives there too. She is probably the best looking chick in Bonao. Prepare to stay at the Aquarius Hotel ($37/ night) http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g1439031-d338379-Reviews-Aquarius_Hotel_Bar_Restaurant-Bonao_Monsenor_Nouel_Province_Dominican_Republic.html because it is pretty much the only hotel there besides the cabana that me and my other brother took some chicks to a couple of years back. Aquarius has the best (probably only) club in town attached to it. There were mostly guys in the club. The few girls that were there were with a guy and the ones without were maybe a 4 if that. The drinks were cheap as hell though. I think I had about 4 rum and cokes, and my girl and her friend had 3 Presidentes each and the bill came to like 400 pesos. I gave dude 500 pesos and got the hell out of there.
There is also a hotel out on the main highway. I didn't want to stay there WITH a car, so I know you won't be staying there without one. I should be down that way around that time. If I am I will pass through and holler at you.I have a friend who goes their frequently and that is how he described it. I will find out in October, thanks for the info!
Just got back from Sosua. 5.I vote for #4.
Nice bodies on those chicas, can we have permission to put our dicks in them as long as we don't say anything to them?Permission granted Surfer. I had gotten in big trouble once before posting photos under a different handle so a little apprehensive. My permission along with a crisp 50 bill is all you need, well seriously just the 50.
A few more shots for the boys. I like those classic athletic Dominicana bodies. There has to be a reason that 10% of Major League Baseball are Dominicanas.
Tempoecorto
08-30-14, 05:31
There is also a hotel out on the main highway. I didn't want to stay there WITH a car, so I know you won't be staying there without one.Where exactly is this aquarius? I stay at the Hotel Jacaranda (on the highway -most likely the one you speak of- very close to city or Hotel Gold Premium. Smack in downtown. Both around 1300 - 1500 pesos. Both places I go with cars.
I too have seen nothing that reminded me of Sosua nor did the women ever tell me anything to that effect.
Camaro's Sosua Synopsis August 2014..Another great report Camaro.
Thanks for taking the time.
Just got back from Sosua. 5th trip there over 2 year span. However, it was my first trip to DR during the summer..Some seriously prime meat there, Solley!
I actually prefer Sosua in the low season, in fact I prefer anywhere in the low season. The fewer chicas around is more than balanced by the lack of tourists and mongers. They have a little more incentive and a little more time to deliver a good session. Likewise restaurants and bars. Hotel rooms are always available and open to negotiation.
Also, if you like a GF to hang with you for a few days, low season is definitely the time in my experience.
The weather factor? Not an issue as long as you have A / see, and it's only up here on the mainland where we get all excited about hurricanes.
Down there storms, wind and rain are the norm this time of year, and they take it in stride. If you are having a good time you will barely notice.
Camaro1257
08-30-14, 16:31
Another great report Camaro.
Thanks for taking the time.I am back in prison can't wait till they release me again.
Can anyone tell me if there is a dress code at Classicos now? I remember the no hats rule. Also are they charging chicas to get in? I thought they got in for free.
Last night Rumba was filled up pretty good. Chicas all over the place. Last night looked like it used to a short while ago. Where early evening Rumba has a small crowd, then it fills up. To the point there is no where for chicas to sit. So they hover around the bar or wherever they can be seen. Many stay in Rumba, parade back and forth perhaps, but closer to 10:30 more chicas start piling into Rumbas many who are actually heading to Classicos to line up and get their armband early. Then either they go up and in Classicos or hang out a little bit hoping to get an early client, knock him off and make it back to the strip shortly after. They already have their armband so they can go to the disco.
The main difference IMO than the look a few years back, is that chicas are getting dropped off from their motos as close as they can get to the strip as possible, since there is no parking where many of the clubs and restaurants are for the 2 long blocks. A lot of sexy looking chicas going to Classicos. But it's still a buyers market even though some guys report that enough of these chicas will try to price themselves for 3 k and up for ST. Some dudes wait it out and make their move later, figuring they can get them for a lot less. But then their other concern is missing out on a chica that might disappear with someone else. Thats an issue which often works against the objective of keeping prices and these chicas expectations in check.
Not being a Classico regular and now staying in the DR longer, I don't see myself feeling comfortable giving a chica 3 k or more, not even for TLN. Especially knowing I'll probably bust within 20 to 30 minutes. And we both know she aint and was never staying for 2 hours, or going to wait for me to recharge to hit it again, and she definitely aint staying all night. Thats why it don't make sense for me to be paying more than 1500 for maybe 20 or 30 minutes of her time. My known regulars may stay all night for 2000 to 2300 pesos. And even by certain guys standards and habits that live there that is being generous. The difference is my regulars arent all dolled up like the Classico Divas. Take off all of their getup and sexy heels, and they arent any more appealing than many of these other chicas still hanging in Rumbas.
Nowadays it's interesting seeing clearly the difference in how short visit vacationers operate vs the guys that live there full or part time. And the difference between being new to the scene vs being around a awhile and having more intel, knowledge and awareness of the scene and the chicas.
A Haitian dude or a guy that appears to be Haitian, I met him maybe back in June. Very personable kind of guy. Speaks english very well. Cleancut I'm certain he told me he lived in the states. I suspect he was deported or had some issues, which is why he's in the DR. Everytime I see this cat he is all smiles, happy to see me. Acts like he wants to kick it with me. Seen him out and about on the strip. Sometimes stop to talk about the scene, experiences etc.
So he's built a certain rapport with me with his manner. This last time back, when he sees me he greets me, a little small talk, and then offers me some pills he's selling. I decline and keep it moving. I already had a yellow flag up on this dude when I first met him, because I see how many cats who live there operate. Especially if they speak english but that may not be their 1st language. But then that's universal, it's not just in the DR or Sosua. People up to no good, come at you like a friend, and later try to unleash their real purpose towards you.
Well this cat is no exception, and I was waiting for the moment he was going to try me, aside from trying to sell his pills. Were talking in front of the German restaurant next to "Haitian Station". Were talking about the scene, chicas this and that. Then when I'm about to exit from his presence, he starts off with an interjection which sounds like an apology for needing to ask me this next question. Then he starts off about him not getting some sort of check he was expecting. I don't know what it was, but I shot that shit down so fast, I even shocked myself. Caught his ass off guard, because as far as he was concerned, our comraderie as fellow mongers had opened the door for him to assume we were friends and that I liked him. And from that would likely be open to fulfilling a favor or a plea for a monetary loan.
Like I said, I shot that shit down before he could give me all of the unsolicited particulars of his circumstances. Told him, that aint going to happen. I further explained, I don't like no man approaching me for favors, loans or BS. He started the usual defensive protest saying it's not like that. Of course I told him that's exactly what it's like. Don't ever come at me with that fake friendship and being my buddy and within minutes asking for something.
With nowhere else to go, he reached out to shake my hand and told me he was sorry and bid me goodnight. Too bad, I kinda liked the guy. But I knew that shit was coming. Thats why I always steered clear of his prying and asking me for personal information. In fact, he still may present a concern overall because there is no telling how far he may be willing to go or has gone in setting a guy up with the aide of some of his partners in malevolent survival.
Permission granted Surfer. I had gotten in big trouble once before posting photos under a different handle so a little apprehensive. My permission along with a crisp 50 bill is all you need, well seriously just the 50.
A few more shots for the boys. I like those classic athletic Dominicana bodies. There has to be a reason that 10% of Major League Baseball are Dominicanas.Great pix amigo!
Gracias!
I've been hangin so much in Brazil that I forgot about the nice and sexy flakitas in the DR.
Thanks for the update!
Mr Enternational
08-31-14, 18:57
A Haitian dude or a guy that appears to be Haitian, I met him maybe back in June. Very personable kind of guy. Speaks english very well. Cleancut I'm certain he told me he lived in the states. I suspect he was deported or had some issues, which is why he's in the DR. Everytime I see this cat he is all smiles, happy to see me. Acts like he wants to kick it with me. Seen him out and about on the strip. Sometimes stop to talk about the scene, experiences etc.Sounds like the guy I met last time. I think he said his name was Jim or something. Finally tried to sell me a bracelet then asked for a loan saying he needed to pay his rent. I would have never known he was Haitian if he had not told me.
A Haitian dude or a guy that appears to be Haitian, I met him maybe back in June. Very personable kind of guy. Speaks english very well. Cleancut I'm certain he told me he lived in the states. I suspect he was deported or had some issues, which is why he's in the DR. Everytime I see this cat he is all smiles, happy to see me. Acts like he wants to kick it with me. Seen him out and about on the strip. Sometimes stop to talk about the scene, experiences etc.
al.These guys kill me. He must have been sizing you up for a while. I had one asked me for five dollars. I told him I didn't have it. He said is just five dollars it's nothing. If it's nothing why don't you have it. Now I tell all of them all I have is pussy and dick sucking money. And you don't suck dick do you? I love to see their responses.
Can anyone tell me if there is a dress code at Classicos now? I remember the no hats rule. Also are they charging chicas to get in? I thought they got in for free.I don't wear hats, so can't comment in the hat thingy.
Everyone pays 200 pesos to get in the place. Seeing how most of the women can't afford the entry fee, they stay clear of the place.
Now, I was told by my buddy that lives there that the first 100 women get in free, however, I did not see this for myself. I went there twice, on Saturday night and one week day night, I saw a butt load of men both times.
Camaro1257
08-31-14, 23:14
Can anyone tell me if there is a dress code at Classicos now? I remember the no hats rule. Also are they charging chicas to get in? I thought they got in for free.I do not recall seeing men wearing hats in Classicos there might be a regulation against it. The chicas gather in front of the pay window at Classicos I believe they start from 10:30 to 11 pm they pay 100 DOP for admission and 200 DOP afterward.
Charles Pooter
08-31-14, 23:44
I do not recall seeing men wearing hats in Classicos there might be a regulation against it. Clasico's has really gone downhill since the weekend warriors started arriving. This a picture I took a few years back while the chicas all went together to powder their noses.
Camaro1257
08-31-14, 23:59
Clasico's has really gone downhill since the weekend warriors started arriving. This a picture I took a few years back while the chicas all went together to powder their noses.Funnie guy!
Manizales911
09-01-14, 01:57
I do not recall seeing men wearing hats in Classicos there might be a regulation against it. The chicas gather in front of the pay window at Classicos I believe they start from 10:30 to 11 pm they pay 100 DOP for admission and 200 DOP afterward.No hats are allowed in Classicos, I always wear a hat and I hate the rule but whatever. If you show up wearing one they will store it and give you a ticket to retrieve it later.
LilOne9876
09-01-14, 03:11
Hey,
What's up fellas newbie to this site? Have a couple questions can anyone give me in site. Going to Sousa in a week. What's the best hotel between the two New Garden are Victoria House? Do Classicos have a dress code and what's some good food spots? I know it's a lots of question but I need some directions.
LilOne9876
09-01-14, 05:28
No hats are allowed in Classicos, I always wear a hat and I hate the rule but whatever. If you show up wearing one they will store it and give you a ticket to retrieve it later.Who has the best hotel New Garden are Victoria house.
Gents, it's hot out down there. Leave the stupid fucking hats at home. What's your message wearing them? Style? Classicos charges the putas a cover? Really? Stay away from this dump. Guys might pay a cover if the chicas are allowed in for free. Otherwise: sausage fest. Let's say you pay that cover, what do you get? A noisy, smoke filled ambiance with way more cock than pussy. Next, you leave to restore your lost hearing and breathe fresher, only mildly polluted street air outside. Just in time for that really nice PG rated movie they're showing on the now closed street. Fuck that shit. Town is a dump now. Just go to BB's or FOD. FOD blows these days but at least you know what you're getting going in and it's safer. I welcome contrasting comments. GEO.
I do not recall seeing men wearing hats in Classicos there might be a regulation against it. The chicas gather in front of the pay window at Classicos I believe they start from 10:30 to 11 pm they pay 100 DOP for admission and 200 DOP afterward.
Sounds like the guy I met last time. I think he said his name was Jim or something. Finally tried to sell me a bracelet then asked for a loan saying he needed to pay his rent. I would have never known he was Haitian if he had not told me.Ya know his name might be Jim. Did he keep his head bald, he looked like he was in his 40's? About 5'7 5'8"? Medium brown complected? Like I said very personable. But then many Haitian dudes, beggars and touts have all mostly been personable. I guess that attribute is a Red Flag. LOL.
These guys kill me. He must have been sizing you up for a while. I had one asked me for five dollars. I told him I didn't have it. He said is just five dollars it's nothing. If it's nothing why don't you have it. Now I tell all of them all I have is pussy and dick sucking money. And you don't suck dick do you? I love to see their responses.No doubt he has been sizing me up. He has asked enough personal questions since the day we met. One would think those are innocent questions, and the info is going to be used to help or better himself down the road. For instance. He wanted to know where I stay. And of course how much I'm paying.
Overall he was trying to weave me into feeling comfortable with him. When I came back to town back in June he sort of acted like he was slighted because I never contacted him so we could hook up. My feeling is he is just an acquaintance, not really someone I can hang out with. My yellow flag of caution came up as I was sizing him up to why and how he ended up in the DR and Sosua particularly? And to be so young, too young IMO to be completely retired from work. So something about that and him didn't quite add up.
The other thing I pay attention to is the company they keep. I have seen this cat with other Haitian dudes that also give me cause for concern. One in particular I usually see perched on the railing at the closed bar next to the German Restaurant and across from Rumbas Restaurant. Always see a few of them walking together yakking it up. See them interacting with some of the Haitian chicas. So it's quite apparent there is a Haitian networking system in place. Just as much as there is a Dominican network, where the males and chicas are working hand in hand in a touristic environment.
Whats interesting to me is how many of these chicas act as if they are completely independent, but if you observe closely many of them have men and other chicas nearby that are looking after them for one thing or another. It could be their hired moto driver, her friend, husband or boyfriend. Or in the case of chicas, their mentor or teacher in the game.
Another guy pops in my mind. The Rosetta Stone Haitian guy. When I first came on the scene he was extremely polite and communicative. But his goal was to off his products to you, size you up to get money, food and gifts, not really be your friend. Now years later, he don't talk to me, looks straight through me to talk to whoever he is targeting. He may give me an obligatory knuckle to knuckle tap, but that's about it. He's this way now because I told him lo stop fronting and pretending friendship awhile back. Stop begging me for my leftover food, and asking for money one minute after saying hello. And please stop asking me to buy your RS products. I'm not interested. Of course, I also warned a ton of other guys about him, and I suspect he may have caught on that I was doing that. Potentially fucking up his hustle.
For instance, he may have had a guy convinced to buy something, but when the guy changed his mind, the RS guy probably charged it to me fucking up his business. Especially since he saw me talking to the guy. In fact that also goes for many of these chicas. When guys share intel and personal experience on these chicas, enough of them hate that. They don't want no client or potential client being advised on any negative experiences that somebody else had with them. Thats why I guess most of us laugh to ourselves when we see a guy go off with a chica we have intel on, later get the chance to talk to that dude, and his experience is similar to or worse than what you predicted would happen.
I guess we all look funny to each other, walking off with any chica out in public. I sat at the Premium Bar one evening, and watched a chica I've known, go back and forth from Rumbas with clients 4 or 5 times while I was sitting there. And that's just the ones I saw. There is no telling what she got accomplished earlier in the day or later that night. Thats not to say she worked all of those clients, but she seemed to be hustling a lot better than some of the other chicas up in Rumbas that looked like they turned into pillars of salt. LOL. Now from a guy that stays down there for several weeks at a time, potentially for months at a time, my interest is leaning more to getting with non pro chicas, that can offer more in terms of character and personality, GFE. But still save the p4p handy for when I want to indulge in sport fucking with some variety.
Camaro1257
09-01-14, 14:00
Classicos charges the putas a cover? Really? Stay away from this dump. Guys might pay a cover if the chicas are allowed in for free. Otherwise: sausage fest. Let's say you pay that cover, what do you get? A noisy, smoke filled ambiance with way more cock than pussy. Next, you leave to restore your lost hearing and breathe fresher, only mildly polluted street air outside. Just in time for that really nice PG rated movie they're showing on the now closed street. Fuck that shit. Town is a dump now. Just go to BB's or FOD. FOD blows these days but at least you know what you're getting going in and it's safer. I welcome contrasting comments. GEO.My contrasting comment would be that mongers have different preferences for mongering venues just like they have different preferences for chica body types and personalities. I would avoid judging the monger who prefers thick over slim likewise some mongers prefer Sosua over Blackbeards because it is a matter of preference. As far as Classicos is concerned I have been on many nights when the ratio of men to women was 3-1, a buyers market especially during low season during the week. Smoking is prohibited inside Classicos, also some people like to dance whether it's hip hop or merengue Classicos plays it all throughout the course of the night. At the end of the day I am advocate of experiencing all mongering venues that are available and choosing the one that best fits my mongering style.
The Rosetta Stone guy is named Lionel. He has been in Sosua for years and I have many friends that have purchased his products without any problems. When buying the Spanish CDs make sure you specify if you have a Mac. Also make sure they play before he leaves to play it safe. There was a guy on this board who used to take Lionel to Santiago to pull chicas for him. The guy said Lionel pulled girls everywhere because of his familiarity with the territory.
Lionel was deported for distributing drugs in the DC area many years ago. I haven't been to Sosua in a few months but Lionel must of fallen on hard times if he is now asking for food. To me he is not a threat. He always works solo, always smiles and I have never seen him in an arguement.
I learned a lesson about these guys years ago because of my generosity. I used to always sympathize with the Haitians because I used to feel that if my ancestors were on a different slave ship that our situations could be reversed.
I was sitting at 4 Roses with BBL after just winning 100 dollars from a guy at Lou's after he lost a bet on a Monday night football game we were watching. On the curb outside of 4 Roses was a Haitian dude crying. I asked BBL why the guy was crying on the curb and he said "gogo leave it alone". I didn't listen and invited the guy to the bar for a drink so that I could hear his story. He said his girl was Dominicana and her family wasn't accepting him. He had lost his job and place and was also on the streets. He never asked for anything but my stupid ass handed him the the crisp 100 dollar bill I had just won. BBL got so pissed he walked away shaking his head. I figured the money was dirty money so spend it don't try to save it. The Haitian dude almost fainted and hugged me and said I was his brother.
Fast forward to my next trip two months later and the guy sees me in Sosua. He runs over and yells my brother. He hugs me and sits down. I tell him I'm in pussy hunting mode and he finally leaves. When I see him on the strip with other Haitian dudes he runs over so guys can meet the fool who gave him money. This shit was getting out of hand and I regretted my generosity.
I didn't see him on my next two trips but I saw him about a year later. I was seated in a chair in front of Dlatins when I saw him from across the street but something was different as I didn't acknowledge him. Later I walked right by him and he looked at me but I didn't make eye contact, great he didn't remember me. As I would see him on future trips his dress code changed and he appeared to have money. His walk and demeanor changed. Bingo, damn the guy had turned gay. I'm guessing he hit hard times and got turned out by some German dude. Now I never give money because it can lead to problems down the road. I just say no gracias and keep walking.
SavePros321
09-01-14, 15:11
Classicos charges the putas a cover? Really? Stay away from this dump. Guys might pay a cover if the chicas are allowed in for free. Otherwise: sausage fest.Classicos starting charging a cover to chicas around 2011-2012, and it was EXACTLY what the club needed. This has helped separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. The only chicas that are paying a cover are the really hot ones who KNOW that will be able to find someone (or two, or three) that night and will recoup the cover charge threefold.
The street rats are not paying any money to get into classicos because they know that no one is going to take their assess. That is why you only see them hanging around outside the club or still trolling bars after classicos is open. To the mongers looking for a "good deal" or "grand bargain", these are the chicas you want to target.
I remember the last time I was in Sousa I would notice that the very hot chicas stayed hidden during the day, and at night when Classicos opened they took motos right up to the club. They were not trolling Rumbas or Mergenue like the unattractive street rats were.
Classicos starting charging a cover to chicas around 2011-2012, and it was EXACTLY what the club needed. This has helped separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. The only chicas that are paying a cover are the really hot ones who KNOW that will be able to find someone (or two, or three) that night and will recoup the cover charge threefold.
The street rats are not paying any money to get into classicos because they know that no one is going to take their assess. That is why you only see them hanging around outside the club or still trolling bars after classicos is open. To the mongers looking for a "good deal" or "grand bargain", these are the chicas you want to target.
I remember the last time I was in Sousa I would notice that the very hot chicas stayed hidden during the day, and at night when Classicos opened they took motos right up to the club. They were not trolling Rumbas or Mergenue like the unattractive street rats were.Last night about 10 30 I was sitting at a table in the street. Chicas were pacing back and forth towards Classicos. Some actually going up in there, some just to get their wristband, and others fronting like they were going to Classicos hoping to get scooped up by a horny hunter on the prowl.
Well one tall sexy looking chica came up behind me, swung her arms around me. She is breathing on me, smelling quite nice. I could have taken her right then, because she could pass for a 7 inspite of the makeup and super heels she had on. Since I smiled at her earlier, she must have figured I could be a client. Then she spoiled it all. Papi can you give me 100 pesos for the disco? No baby! Mi no banco. And tu tiene dinero. Pointing to her purse. She opens her purse to show me she only had a 100 peso bill in it. I'm laughing to myself, because I know daggone well that chica got money hidden up in her somewhere. And she trying to "hustle old Shaft". So I politely told her no, and a quick lesson on the reasons why I wasnt going to do it. Then she just sashayed away towards the club. Somehow, she made it in. How the fuck did she do that being 100 pesos short? LOL.
SavePros321
09-01-14, 16:20
Last night about 1030 I was sitting at a table in the street. Chicas were pacing back and forth towards Classicos. Some actually going up in there, some just to get their wristband, and others fronting like they were going to Classicos hoping to get scooped up by a horny hunter on the prowl.
Well one tall sexy looking chica came up behind me, swung her arms around me. She is breathing on me, smelling quite nice. I could have taken her right then, because she could pass for a 7 inspite of the makeup and super heels she had on. Since I smiled at her earlier, she must have figured I could be a client. Then she spoiled it all. Papi can you give me 100 pesos for the disco? No baby! Mi no banco. And tu tiene dinero. Pointing to her purse. She opens her purse to show me she only had a 100 peso bill in it. I'm laughing to myself, because I know daggone well that chica got money hidden up in her somewhere. And she trying to "hustle old Shaft". So I politely told her no, and a quick lesson on the reasons why I wasnt going to do it. Then she just sashayed away towards the club. Somehow, she made it in. How the fuck did she do that being 100 pesos short? LOL.She could have been using the 100 peso act as an icebreaker (or not). Either way, if she was hot I would have just told her she could earn 100 pesos and more by coming back to my place.
If you are not in a rush, you can pluck some of the fresh ones out before they head upstairs to Classicos. This one was waiting in line behind me. Actually, she was about to get in line, and I was standing off to the side trying to decide if I wanted to go into Classicos or not (See May 2012 Sosua trip report). I saved her and myself some time by suggesting we go to my hotel room, and we both headed back to Terra Linda.
She could have been using the 100 peso act as an icebreaker (or not). Either way, if she was hot I would have just told her she could earn 100 pesos and more by coming back to my place.
If you are not in a rush, you can pluck some of the fresh ones out before they head upstairs to Classicos. This one was waiting in line behind me. Actually, she was about to get in line, and I was standing off to the side trying to decide if I wanted to go into Classicos or not (See May 2012 Sosua trip report). I saved her and myself some time by suggesting we go to my hotel room, and we both headed back to Terra Linda.True it could have been an icebreaker. Unfortunately those types of icebreakers do not entice me. Especially in the DR where compliance to certain requests can be perceived as you being weak, new or ignorant. Me ignoring the potential con and trying to take her could also be perceived as being weak. Like , damn I just tried to con this dude out of some money but all he was thinking about was getting my pussy. What other shenanagins (sp) can I pull on him?
But basically, I don't particularly like the overly forward , aggressive chicas. Moreover, I imagine a typical dominican dude being approached like that, and how would he respond? My gut tells me he wouldn't go for it either, him moreso.
That honey I believe I've seen her before. She is fine. BTW how long did she stay with you? I know you made the suggestion of her coming with you. But did she approach you 1st or did you approach her 1st?
Thanks Oakie, Have always appreciated reading your posts as well as the other Sosua vets. Used to visit and go all over Brazil from 99 to 05, in the days when the dollar went far there. Sosua has a little bit of the same vibe Rio had. Good beaches, good food, good prices and pretty women. But no country can match those Brasalieras for their skills in the cama. I think they are just born with it. The Dominianas I find on par in that department with the Ticas and Mexicanas.
Some seriously prime meat there, Solley!
I actually prefer Sosua in the low season, in fact I prefer anywhere in the low season. The fewer chicas around is more than balanced by the lack of tourists and mongers. They have a little more incentive and a little more time to deliver a good session. Likewise restaurants and bars. Hotel rooms are always available and open to negotiation.
Also, if you like a GF to hang with you for a few days, low season is definitely the time in my experience.
The weather factor? Not an issue as long as you have A / see, and it's only up here on the mainland where we get all excited about hurricanes.
Down there storms, wind and rain are the norm this time of year, and they take it in stride. If you are having a good time you will barely notice.
SavePros321
09-01-14, 18:15
That honey I believe I've seen her before. She is fine. BTW how long did she stay with you? I know you made the suggestion of her coming with you. But did she approach you 1st or did you approach her 1st?I approached her after we eye-fucked each other for a minute. She was not aggressive in the least bit. I only asked her to do ST. I rarely do TLN with a chica I have never been with before. No point in locking-in a chica for all night, because if she turns out to be a dud you are still on the hook for the TLN rate you negotiated or (in the new Sosua) you might get the cops called on you, LOL!
Classicos is the best thing going in the DR Scores of hot girls waiting for you to pull the trigger. Geo has never been obviously. I have never seen anyone smoking and the presence of dancing AC makes this spot my favorite. Having a buzz seeing so many hot girls can not be duplicated anywhere in the US. Not to mention you can fuck them all. As far as Sosua being dump well who knows. I love the place one of the best monger play grounds in the world. I have done BBs and there is nothing wrong with it. However I rode my bike with training wheels until I learned how. The variety in ClASSICOS AND sOSUA dwarf BB and FOD.
Classicos starting charging a cover to chicas around 2011-2012, and it was EXACTLY what the club needed. This has helped separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. The only chicas that are paying a cover are the really hot ones who KNOW that will be able to find someone (or two, or three) that night and will recoup the cover charge threefold.
The street rats are not paying any money to get into classicos because they know that no one is going to take their assess. That is why you only see them hanging around outside the club or still trolling bars after classicos is open. To the mongers looking for a "good deal" or "grand bargain", these are the chicas you want to target.
I remember the last time I was in Sousa I would notice that the very hot chicas stayed hidden during the day, and at night when Classicos opened they took motos right up to the club. They were not trolling Rumbas or Mergenue like the unattractive street rats were.
SavePros321
09-01-14, 23:32
Classicos is the best thing going in the DR Scores of hot girls waiting for you to pull the trigger. Geo has never been obviously. I have never seen anyone smoking and the presence of dancing AC makes this spot my favorite. Come to think of it, I have never seen anyone smoking in Classicos either. And I would have noticed it because the one reason I stopped going to clubs at home (in the US) is that I hated coming out of there smelling like a pack of cigs when I don't even smoke them.
ForceSteeler
09-02-14, 00:05
Classicos is the best thing going in the DR Scores of hot girls waiting for you to pull the trigger. Geo has never been obviously. I have never seen anyone smoking and the presence of dancing AC makes this spot my favorite. Having a buzz seeing so many hot girls can not be duplicated anywhere in the US. Not to mention you can fuck them all. As far as Sosua being dump well who knows. I love the place one of the best monger play grounds in the world. I have done BBs and there is nothing wrong with it. However I rode my bike with training wheels until I learned how. The variety in ClASSICOS AND sOSUA dwarf BB and FOD.Yeah, I really glad Classicos is back and the cover charge will filter all the hood rats out. Only the best chicks will show up and will not mind paying a cover to get in because they know there's a good chance they will find a date. Also since Classicos is an inside club a lot of chicks that you will not normally see will show up come to Classicos because they don't like Rumbas and Dlatinos because they fear there family will find out that there doing in Sosua. To many eyes watching the streets, They can dash inside and out when its a inside club. I kinda hated Dlatinos because they allow anybody inside including the cutter trash.
Manizales911
09-02-14, 02:32
Gents, it's hot out down there. Leave the stupid fucking hats at home. What's your message wearing them? Style? Classicos charges the putas a cover? Really? Stay away from this dump. Guys might pay a cover if the chicas are allowed in for free. Otherwise: sausage fest. Let's say you pay that cover, what do you get? A noisy, smoke filled ambiance with way more cock than pussy. Next, you leave to restore your lost hearing and breathe fresher, only mildly polluted street air outside. Just in time for that really nice PG rated movie they're showing on the now closed street. Fuck that shit. Town is a dump now. Just go to BB's or FOD. FOD blows these days but at least you know what you're getting going in and it's safer. I welcome contrasting comments. GEO.I wear a hat every waking moment of my life except when I am at my attorneys office so you leave your stupid hat at home, I'm not. Classicos is smoke free and air conditioned so I doubt you've ever been in the joint. A sausage fest? Again, obviously you've never been there, it's always more girls than guys, always. I don't get my girls from Sosua but I like staying there and partying there. You have the beach, plenty of restaurants, many choices of places to stay, and yeah there are hundreds of girls. BB's and FOD are for rookies.
I got some hot stuff lined and may not have time for sport fucking. I have picked a a couple of cupid girls have turned up the heat on me. Because of my charm the girls can not wait to show me how loving they can be. Non pros who want to make me their man. I hAVE TO LET THEM TRY.
That honey I believe I've seen her before. She is fine. BTW how long did she stay with you? I know you made the suggestion of her coming with you. But did she approach you 1st or did you approach her 1st?
I approached her after we eye-fucked each other for a minute. She was not aggressive in the least bit. I only asked her to do ST. I rarely do TLN with a chica I have never been with before. No point in locking-in a chica for all night, because if she turns out to be a dud you are still on the hook for the TLN rate you negotiated or (in the new Sosua) you might get the cops called on you, LOL!Thats Mellenes. She's been around for years. First meet her about five years ago. She's definitely a pro. She grew up on the south side, Boca Chica and has been in the game for a decade plus. Peace.
ForceSteeler
09-02-14, 04:14
I wear a hat every waking moment of my life except when I am at my attorneys office so you leave your stupid hat at home, I'm not. Classicos is smoke free and air conditioned so I doubt you've ever been in the joint. A sausage fest? Again, obviously you've never been there, it's always more girls than guys, always. I don't get my girls from Sosua but I like staying there and partying there. You have the beach, plenty of restaurants, many choices of places to stay, and yeah there are hundreds of girls. BB's and FOD are for rookies.If you get VIP you can wear your hat if your willing to spend a couple of hundreds on Bottles they will let you smoke in the VIP section. I did it before with a group of guys. You guys forget money talks in the Dominican Republic.
Mr Enternational
09-02-14, 04:23
Come to think of it, I have never seen anyone smoking in Classicos either. And I would have noticed it because the one reason I stopped going to clubs at home (in the US) is that I hated coming out of there smelling like a pack of cigs when I don't even smoke them.I'm not a regular smoker, but I have smoked in Classico before. I think I have only been inside of the club twice. Maybe the rules have changed since then. When I was there in June standing out front it was the exact opposite of what you guys were saying. It was heavy on the chaff and light on the wheat, despite there being a cover charge. Same as Wrx experienced, there were chicks coming up to me asking me to pay their cover charge. I'm not even going in. Why the hell would I pay for you to get in?
Come to think of it, I have never seen anyone smoking in Classicos either. And I would have noticed it because the one reason I stopped going to clubs at home (in the US) is that I hated coming out of there smelling like a pack of cigs when I don't even smoke them.As far as I know the law regarding this in the DR is that you can smoke in open air restaurants and bars as long as they are open to the air, but if it is enclosed (and thus air-conditioned,) then you are not allowed to smoke inside. I have never known smoking to be allowed in the the'Classico disco in more than ten years. Also I am pretty sure I have never seen anyone smoking in Cafe Tropical, either in Sosua or in Puerto Plata. Or in the cafeteria at La Sirena.
Of course with crowds in enclosed spaces there is also the fire risk and difficulty evacuation a large number of people quickly. I don't think the'Classico has alternative fire exits other than the front door, but someone can correct me if I am wrong.
SavePros321
09-02-14, 11:34
As far as I know the law regarding this in the DR is that you can smoke in open air restaurants and bars as long as they are open to the air, but if it is enclosed (and thus air-conditioned,) then you are not allowed to smoke inside. I have never known smoking to be allowed in the the'Classico disco in more than ten years.I knew I wasn't crazy!
Thats Mellenes. She's definitely a pro.Hmm, that would explain why she was in Sosua about to go into Classicos then. It's a good thing I did not mistake her for a non-pro as I was negotiating a "pussy for pesos" exchange with her (lol).
The Rosetta Stone guy is named Lionel. He has been in Sosua for years and I have many friends that have purchased his products without any problems. When buying the Spanish CDs make sure you specify if you have a Mac. Also make sure they play before he leaves to play it safe. There was a guy on this board who used to take Lionel to Santiago to pull chicas for him. The guy said Lionel pulled girls everywhere because of his familiarity with the territory.
Lionel was deported for distributing drugs in the DC area many years ago. I haven't been to Sosua in a few months but Lionel must of fallen on hard times if he is now asking for food. To me he is not a threat. He always works solo, always smiles and I have never seen him in an arguement.
I learned a lesson about these guys years ago because of my generosity. I used to always sympathize with the Haitians because I used to feel that if my ancestors were on a different slave ship that our situations could be reversed.
I was sitting at 4 Roses with BBL after just winning 100 dollars from a guy at Lou's after he lost a bet on a Monday night football game we were watching. On the curb outside of 4 Roses was a Haitian dude crying. I asked BBL why the guy was crying on the curb and he said "gogo leave it alone". I didn't listen and invited the guy to the bar for a drink so that I could hear his story. He said his girl was Dominicana and her family wasn't accepting him. He had lost his job and place and was also on the streets. He never asked for anything but my stupid ass handed him the the crisp 100 dollar bill I had just won. BBL got so pissed he walked away shaking his head. I figured the money was dirty money so spend it don't try to save it. The Haitian dude almost fainted and hugged me and said I was his brother.
Fast forward to my next trip two months later and the guy sees me in Sosua. He runs over and yells my brother. He hugs me and sits down. I tell him I'm in pussy hunting mode and he finally leaves. When I see him on the strip with other Haitian dudes he runs over so guys can meet the fool who gave him money. This shit was getting out of hand and I regretted my generosity.
I didn't see him on my next two trips but I saw him about a year later. I was seated in a chair in front of Dlatins when I saw him from across the street but something was different as I didn't acknowledge him. Later I walked right by him and he looked at me but I didn't make eye contact, great he didn't remember me. As I would see him on future trips his dress code changed and he appeared to have money. His walk and demeanor changed. Bingo, damn the guy had turned gay. I'm guessing he hit hard times and got turned out by some German dude. Now I never give money because it can lead to problems down the road. I just say no gracias and keep walking.Hey G man. Well about Lionel. I actually knew his name. I like using taglines for certain people. Yes he told me the whole story about being deported for drugs. He mentioned also to us about being in North Carolina at some point. I don't recall the DC part, but dont doubt it. My buddy who was with me at the time was from NC. So, did he really spend time in NC, or is he that good to adjust his stories to fit who he is relating to?
This is my take on my assessment of the RS guy. When I was 1st coming to the scene and would see him, he treated us just like dumb tourists that didn't know shit. And why not? He is the one who has more time and experience dealing with newbies. He knows exactly how to be persistent enough to pull off irritating or guilting someone to get certain individuals to buy his products. Not so much because they want it, but hopefully get him to go away. But breaking down to buy his products doesn't necessarily stop him from pestering and pretending he is your friend. In fact that may open the door for a full court press. Maybe with assists from others who need to cash in on a "good customer".
Now, I am not saying that is the case for me. I never bought anything from him, and I always refused. I have observed plenty of other guys taken in by him. Often resulting in them being irritated by him, and not knowing how to get him to stop coming around. In some cases inviting himself to a guys table, or standing around so he can hear what guys are talking about. Sometimes he may butt into a conversation going on between 2 or more guys. Participate long enough, and then at some point interject is RS products for sale.
What I'm trying to say, he is like a covert spy who comes around and studies his environment looking for weaknesses that he can exploit. I watch him do it to plenty of guys. Many guys that don't know better don't know how to handle the situation when he comes around. They tell RS guy, not now maybe later. Or they let him sit down. Get comfortable. Sometimes he may ask someone for their food. Especially if they arent going to eat it. I think he also does it, hoping some dude would feel sorry for him and just give him a little money. Or simply buy him a meal. That gesture sends a message.
When we were told about his drug selling and deportation, this was all unsolicited, un sought information he laid on us, in order to build a rapport with us. We were supposed to be impressed with his openess and transparency. The potential result? Thats the grease that opens up opportunity. From that I see guys buying him food, giving him clothes, money. This goes back a few years, but I recall the morning I had just finished breakfast at NG, and took the leftovers with me because I barely touched it. I was going to give it to a chica (I was banging) that worked in the salon nearby. He saw me with the container, and asked me if he could have it. I said no. because if I was hungry again, or she wanted it, that is why I took it with me to go.
Remember, that's when I was new to the scene. So in his eyes I was fresh meat. New enough for him to keep trying to size us up to get something out of us. Come to think of it, he was asking for change from us, to which we refused.
Another time I was eating at the Burrito Hut (RIP) on PC, and he came up, plopped himself down at our table and started getting all friendly and chummy. A few minutes later, started his spiel trying to get something out of us. I told him right then, that I don't appreciate that fake friendship and then moments later start asking for shit. That was the beginning of him never doing his usual with me again. Now he can walk right by me and not say a word. And I do likewise. I'm sure he has shared much intel on me from his perspective with whoever would value it. And I expect that.
So my overall issue is, much of the touts, beggars, "tourist helpers", CD sellers, shoeshine boys and anyone I missed, they mostly use the friendly approach to bait their targets into a false sense of friendship, but their objective is to get something from you. The difference is, some are very good at waiting things out, not moving too fast in order to end up being exposed or blow their cover. They impress the shit of some dudes who are easily taken in by someone who doesnt appear to be dishonest. I do understand the low standard of living they lead. I do understaand hard times. All my point is, it doesn't require a person needing to be conned or offered fake friendship so they can get something from somebody.
I will be the 1st to admit, many of these types do have something to offer. Like if someone needs information or a guide. I see plenty guys using these young and older dominican guys to do stuff for them. Run errands, get chicas, translation, riding with them in cars etc. What I've also observed is guys getting in trouble. Especially with chicas. Guys having disputes, stuff stolen, etc. And the "dominican guide" is conveniently right there to help. Whereas what I suspect is the "guide" sometimes sets guys up so they will have problems, and then act like they came to the guys defense or rescue. That successfully gives a dude the impression that his guide earned his keep.
My guess is, there are instances when a guy is getting conned, and later the chica and the guide are splitting the proceeds from the poor monger who doesn't have a clue what went down.
On a side note. I went to Cabarete with a chica for lunch the other day. We ate at the Kahuna outside. The chair guy who I have seen many times over the years sees us, acknowledges us, and asks if we will be sitting out on the beach. I said maybe. Eventually we expressed interest in lounging on the beach. He darted out there to set up our chairs and the umbrella. Now, I already am aware that if you eat at the restaurant, and then decide to lounge on the beach, the chairs are complimentary. I know that, he knows that.
However, I sized him up. I asked him how much are my chairs? He told me 300 pesos. I looked him dead in the eye and told him that I know lounging out here is free if I ate at the restaurant. Of course he had that, "oh shit I'm busted" trying to get over on a customer look. He acknowledged that fact I presented, and then realized his money would only be earned from anything else we ordered through him. And this is the issue I have here in the DR. Muggs are so fucking "in the moment" with their thinking. I got to get as much as I can when I see a dumb ass tourist/vacationer that needs to be relieved of his/her money. When I asked him how much the chairs cost, he must of heard a bachata symphony up in his head. Until I shot that shit down. Once a mugg is caught being dishonest, it's hard for that person to redeem themselves. Because they may always be seen as the dude that was dishonest.
I respect anyone who has to hustle. But I want to pay only for what I request. I don't need the hard sell, or the friendly bait and switch method. Nowadays most of everybody with a hustle that comes near me keeps it moving now. They see me and go straight for those that they probably think they can work on better. There are a few un kept Haitian boy beggars that come around. They will stand in front of you for maybe 10 to 15 minutes, occasionally blurting out a "Yo, Yo, give me something please". I tell them, I live here, and I point to several dominicans or other locals standing around. I say did you ask them? The reason why I do that is because them stepping to me clearly is done because I'm someone they perceive who has money to give. They won't dare ask anybody body else. So I feign like I'm offended that I'm being targeted because of how they perceive me.
I believe it makes sense to insist that they treat me like they would everyone else that's standing around that they won't even go near. Thats why I direct their attention to other people nearby. If you won't talk to them, then don't talk to me. They will stand there looking sorry, bewildered, hurt, or whatever. But once they realize you mean business, then their attitude and demeaner changes. I see this moreso with chicas, and the young dominican beggars. Thats when they start calling you names, like cheapy. No more hola, no more you are my father, my friend all the other shit they offer to individuals they are getting their guilt money from.
I don't think a lot of cats realize how much people in the DR and Sosua particularly study the people that come into their environment. And how simple gestures and mannerisms can be perceived as weaknesses, that enough who are paying attention would consider opportunities that they can benefit from.
Mongerer69
09-02-14, 12:41
Great article, a must read. After the Politicians and Police are finished closing businesses, evoking Dress Codes and silly rules and literally killing the Goose with the Golden Egg, what will force Authorities to abandon these crazy ideas are the people that it is affecting. These people are now out of work, their families starving, they cannot buy food, goods and services thereby causing the trickle down effect to the businesses they are hurting. The article states 'dozens of employees, including bar attendants, waiters, disc jockeys, porters, cleaners and kitchen staff are left penniless by this closure. Of the income of these workers entire families depend. But not only that, also supermarkets, fashion stores, hair salons, pharmacies, motorcycle taxis etc. depend on it and have seen their sales decline."
Once they start hearing from the people and businesses, and get voted out of office. Things will return as was once normal. Unfortunate for us but this is a waiting game cycle of " clueless do gooders" fu $king up a good thing only to eventually realize that Sosua cannot survive without our dollars We need a regime change. GOOD LUCK MAYOR WILLIE.
http://www.sosuanews.com/mobi.php?id=3808&article=1 If this is true I'm a little bummed that I'm about 2 weeks too early.
On or about 8/18 I left my rental parked in front of Sosua Suites. I took the bus that morning to La Vega. One of my buddies saw my car there but did not realize it was my car. He took notice at about 10 pm that night that the front pass tire was flat.
The next day when I got back, I went to get the car, and saw the flat tire. I said to myself damn. I went home and came back with some flat fix in a can. In the trunk of that car I had a small compressor I brought with me from the states. I have had mysterious flat tires before. But seeing the flat this time, I assumed the tire had a slow leak in it.
When I got back, a heavy set dominican dude seemed to be waiting for me. He pointed to my flat tire. He was all up on me. Telling me he was going to help me, poking around near my trunk to show me my spare. Tried to open my passenger door when I unlocked it so I could put the plug into the cigarette lighter for my compressor. Told the dude I don't need his help.
He stood around anyway. I hooked up the compressor and the tire inflated within 7 to 10 minutes. There was no hole in the tire. My guess is somebody let the fucking air out the tire. And perhaps was going to be there in the morning prepared to help and earn a few pesos. Like my heavy set friend. LOL You should have seen the look on his face as well as my buddy who was with me, and me, as my tire inflated with that little ass compressor. Then I drove off and added air at the Texaco station. Over the next few days, I'm expecting the tire to lose pressure. But it never happened. There was no slow leak. Leaving my car there over night unattended, apparently made my car a target. Especially since there were no other cars parked there over night. If I'm correct that someone brazenly let the air out, maybe next time they'll put a hole in the tire for smart asses like me with a compressor and a can of flat fix.
On or about 8/18 I left my rental parked in front of Sosua Suites. I took the bus that morning to La Vega. One of my buddies saw my car there but did not realize it was my car. He took notice at about 10 pm that night that the front pass tire was flat.
The next day when I got back, I went to get the car, and saw the flat tire. I said to myself damn. I went home and came back with some flat fix in a can. In the trunk of that car I had a small compressor I brought with me from the states. I have had mysterious flat tires before. But seeing the flat this time, I assumed the tire had a slow leak in it.
When I got back, a heavy set dominican dude seemed to be waiting for me. He pointed to my flat tire. He was all up on me. Telling me he was going to help me, poking around near my trunk to show me my spare. Tried to open my passenger door when I unlocked it so I could put the plug into the cigarette lighter for my compressor. Told the dude I don't need his help.
He stood around anyway. I hooked up the compressor and the tire inflated within 7 to 10 minutes. There was no hole in the tire. My guess is somebody let the fucking air out the tire. And perhaps was going to be there in the morning prepared to help and earn a few pesos. Like my heavy set friend. LOL You should have seen the look on his face as well as my buddy who was with me, and me, as my tire inflated with that little ass compressor. Then I drove off and added air at the Texaco station. Over the next few days, I'm expecting the tire to lose pressure. But it never happened. There was no slow leak. Leaving my car there over night unattended, apparently made my car a target. Especially since there were no other cars parked there over night. If I'm correct that someone brazenly let the air out, maybe next time they'll put a hole in the tire for smart asses like me with a compressor and a can of flat fix.I bring my tires to a gomero and get them fixed for around a dollar, Dominicans can and will help, expecting a tip. I am never in the mood to change a tire it is always too hot out. And for a very small tip, someone will change it for me.
I do agree that there are people that will mess with your car. I now live in a gated community with armed guards, but in the past I lived in a regular apartment in a dominican neighborhood. I got the feeling the neighbors did not like me banging so many of their women. I had flats, someone jammed paper in my wheels, I had cocktail straws cut off in my locks I finally moved to the safer gated community and have had no issues.
I would not leave my car unattended in another location due to past experiences. I still get flats, but due to the lovely roads down here.
Thanks for your reply to my post below, I agree with everything you said. When I first started going to Sosua in 2006 I welcomed the touts selling things and I got some good deals. From belts, Cds, phones, to pictures. I even have the bottle of mamma guana I purchased on my first trip. I think when you are in a tourist area in a foreign country it goes with the territory. I,like you also size them up while they are sizing me up. I used to love the interaction with the touts. But sometimes it is a bit overkill. From the change guys who offer change when you have just refused the three guys standing next to him, or when walking down the hill to the beach and the same guys being persistent with the same sales pitch. Over time we become immune to all this.
Now I don't even want to play the game. I don't want to size them up or have any conversation with them. They can curse my Momma as I walk by and I won't blink an eye. Their is no need to even acknowledge them. As a Sosua vet I'm now more of a spectator than participant. I love watching the newbies lose their mind and go overboard. Even if I warned them they would probably fall into the same traps. These are the guys the touts wait for. Sosua is a hustle and I don't chase the hustle anymore, I usually wait for the hustle to come to me then say no. I love the average girl in a corner not getting any attention when the other pretty girls are getting all the attention. I love the bum who has never asked me for nothing as I slide him a 50 p note as I walk by. My point is that I don't mind being charitable but I do it when its not expected. The smart ones won't try to overplay the situation but they will continue to stay in their lane.
Thanks for your reply to my post below, I agree with everything you said. When I first started going to Sosua in 2006 I welcomed the touts selling things and I got some good deals. From belts, Cds, phones, to pictures. I even have the bottle of mamma guana I purchased on my first trip. I think when you are in a tourist area in a foreign country it goes with the territory. I,like you also size them up while they are sizing me up. I used to love the interaction with the touts. But sometimes it is a bit overkill. From the change guys who offer change when you have just refused the three guys standing next to him, or when walking down the hill to the beach and the same guys being persistent with the same sales pitch. Over time we become immune to all this.
Now I don't even want to play the game. I don't want to size them up or have any conversation with them. They can curse my Momma as I walk by and I won't blink an eye. Their is no need to even acknowledge them. As a Sosua vet I'm now more of a spectator than participant. I love watching the newbies lose their mind and go overboard. Even if I warned them they would probably fall into the same traps. These are the guys the touts wait for. Sosua is a hustle and I don't chase the hustle anymore, I usually wait for the hustle to come to me then say no. I love the average girl in a corner not getting any attention when the other pretty girls are getting all the attention. I love the bum who has never asked me for nothing as I slide him a 50 p note as I walk by. My point is that I don't mind being charitable but I do it when its not expected. The smart ones won't try to overplay the situation but they will continue to stay in their lane.I'm with you regarding all the touts, its relentless at times. The funniest thing about some of the "change guys" is that they also sell Viagra. It's funny to hear guys shouting "change" followed by "Viagra". Just what you need in Sosua, change to pay the Putas and Viagra to get hard. Sometimes I tell the guys who are just selling Viagra that I just got a box at Latinos market and they immediately shut up.
I did have an interesting experience one day after leaving the Playero market in Sosua in August. Somehow after leaving the market a 100 Peso bill fell out of my pocket which I was unaware of. A Dominican picked up the bill and said it had fallen out of my pocket and handed it to me. I was in disbelief and gave it to him for being so honest. This was a very pleasant surprise in contrast to all the "touting" that takes place.
Because of my charm the girls can not wait to show me how loving they can be. Non pros who want to make me their man. I hAVE TO LET THEM TRY.My OG told me. "In their eyes we are walking atms. By DR standards we are very wealthy men. If you think she was with you for your good looks or (your charm LOL) you need some smelling salt to wake up.
I got some hot stuff lined and may not have time for sport fucking. I have picked a a couple of cupid girls have turned up the heat on me. Because of my charm the girls can not wait to show me how loving they can be. Non pros who want to make me their man. I hAVE TO LET THEM TRY.Dam I was coming down to hang with ya. You aint going to have time to hunt conmigo!
The Rosetta Stone guy is named Lionel. He has been in Sosua for years and I have many friends that have purchased his products without any problems. When buying the Spanish CDs make sure you specify if you have a Mac. Also make sure they play before he leaves to play it safe. There was a guy on this board who used to take Lionel to Santiago to pull chicas for him. The guy said Lionel pulled girls everywhere because of his familiarity with the territory.
Lionel was deported for distributing drugs in the DC area many years ago. I haven't been to Sosua in a few months but Lionel must of fallen on hard times if he is now asking for food. To me he is not a threat. He always works solo, always smiles and I have never seen him in an arguement.
.This guy is a hustler. He tried to sell T a cd for 5 k and they agreed, but I stop the transaction to remind him we were in the DR. T end up buying it for 2 k. He still tries to speak with me. When ever I see him. The cd didn't work when T got back in the US. I will pass your advice- it might be a Mac.
This guy is a hustler. He tried to sell T a cd for 5 k and they agreed, but I stop the transaction to remind him we were in the DR. T end up buying it for 2 k. He still tries to speak with me. When ever I see him. The cd didn't work when T got back in the US. I will pass your advice- it might be a Mac.It was not a MAC GrownMan. The guy selling Rosetta Stone is a scammer with a funky goatee as I recall. Unless you have a laptop and can insert the CD's to see if their real don't even think of buying any CD's from him. I have Rosetta Stone and it is very difficult to make pirate copies of it. Next time you see him tell him you will pay whatever he wants and that you will meet him with your laptop to try the CD's out. He will never show up!
It was not a MAC GrownMan. The guy selling Rosetta Stone is a scammer with a funky goatee as I recall. Unless you have a laptop and can insert the CD's to see if their real don't even think of buying any CD's from him. I have Rosetta Stone and it is very difficult to make pirate copies of it. Next time you see him tell him you will pay whatever he wants and that you will meet him with your laptop to try the CD's out. He will never show up!Fair enough. I haven't seen him in some time so maybe he has changed for the worse as you guy say.
Word is from my guys on the ground is to buckle up for more craziness to come in Sosua. The "Willy" storm is brewing. Willy is on home turf in Sosua and he knows how to operate with the right ideas and financial backing.
This guy is a hustler. He tried to sell T a cd for 5 k and they agreed, but I stop the transaction to remind him we were in the DR. T end up buying it for 2 k. He still tries to speak with me. When ever I see him. The cd didn't work when T got back in the US. I will pass your advice- it might be a Mac.
It was not a MAC GrownMan. The guy selling Rosetta Stone is a scammer with a funky goatee as I recall. Unless you have a laptop and can insert the CD's to see if their real don't even think of buying any CD's from him. I have Rosetta Stone and it is very difficult to make pirate copies of it. Next time you see him tell him you will pay whatever he wants and that you will meet him with your laptop to try the CD's out. He will never show up!You guys can't be speaking about Lionel. He's a hustler for sure, and you can't blame him for trying to get as much money as possible because he does know when he'll make more money, so it's your responsibility to negotiate price on whatever, and you should definitely check-out or examine the merchandise before purchasing it, but I've never know him to rip people off. Like it was said, he lives in Sosua, you'll see him everyday if your there. He can't afford to out & out rip, you off because everybody knows him, and he is easy to find. I've seen him hustling in Puerto Plata to make money, so he's a go getter. I've seen him down and out and he has asked for help to eat or for other necessities to live; and I have helped. He might not pay me back in actual cash, but he has made it up with doing a few errands here and there for me. In all the time I've known him I've never had a problem or serious concern about him. Peace.
Having money makes all of us much more attractive. Often the ladies fall for the lure of having a wealthy amigo.
My OG told me. "In their eyes we are walking atms. By DR standards we are very wealthy men. If you think she was with you for your good looks or (your charm LOL) you need some smelling salt to wake up.
Truth be told I try to be fluid. I have options that I can or not exercise. I am a fan of GFE and have invested the time to make it a reality. Friendly banter on watsup turns into real heat.
Dam I was coming down to hang with ya. You aint going to have time to hunt conmigo!
Having money makes all of us much more attractive. Often the ladies fall for the lure of having a wealthy amigo.The one on the right, was calling herself Yessica, in Sosua, circa 2009.
Just a note on the recent discussion of the local street guys.
While most Dominicans are friendly by nature, it can't be said often enough that any local who comes up to you in Sosua unsolicited is never going to do you any favors. They have perfected multiple ways to separate the tourist from his dollars. It's their only means of support. They'll stroke your ego if they can, and watch you give it up like a baby.
Even if a satisfactory deal is struck, they'll expect more down the raod, and will take advantage of your friendliness to the point where you have to tell them eventually to FO. Who needs to have to "avoid" certain people, or even make an enemy?
If you really need something, you will do best to do the soliciting yourself and avoid the first guy in your face, just like coming out of the airport for a cab, or the chica that grabs you when you walk into a bar. They can size up a tourist in a New York minute.
I have never had a problem with being hassled down there, on the street, in bars, or at the beach.
There's is a lot of good info on this subject posted way back on this forum on how to carry yourself and avoid the traps which lead to hassle, complaints, and disappointment.
If you are still going down these dead end roads, you are still a newbie.
You guys can't be speaking about Lionel. He's a hustler for sure, and you can't blame him for trying to get as much money as possible because he does know when he'll make more money, so it's your responsibility to negotiate price on whatever, and you should definitely check-out or examine the merchandise before purchasing it, but I've never know him to rip people off. Like it was said, he lives in Sosua, you'll see him everyday if your there. He can't afford to out & out rip, you off because everybody knows him, and he is easy to find. I've seen him hustling in Puerto Plata to make money, so he's a go getter. I've seen him down and out and he has asked for help to eat or for other necessities to live; and I have helped. He might not pay me back in actual cash, but he has made it up with doing a few errands here and there for me. In all the time I've known him I've never had a problem or serious concern about him. Peace.His hustle is his hustle. The thing is guys that come to Sosua should be educating themselves on the things that essentially make themselves appear to be marks and targets of hustlers.
Individuals that come to Sosua often should be striving to get to the point where the hustlers leave you alone, or bother you less. Mainly because they realize they can't get over on you. How about this part? The issue I have with any hustler is their disrespect of you. When they are consistently persistent, that resonates that their interest in getting something from you, trumps their lack of respect for declining their requests. Their lack of respect for your personal space, your time, and your company. Their perception IMO is that you are in their environment, and they are in control, not you. That is what one needs to recognize, moreso than having feelings for a mans hustle.
So when I am with my company, I don't need no hustler coming around disrespecting us while were having a conversation. I don't need no hustler that understands what were saying, hanging around listening to us and offering his 2 cents. I don't need no hustler demonstrating to me that he perceives me as a mark / target because he steps straight to me, and avoids or ignores going to others nearby. I will nicely direct a hustlers attention to whoever is standing close by. If they won't hustle to them, then I'm not going to let anyone hustle me.
When I politely say "no gracias" the 1st time, mutha blubber, no means NO. Don't come back later or tomorrow up in my face again. When they do that they don't respect your answer. IMO they believe they have the control. The means to potentially break you down. They've learned from experience, that persistence often pays off. Just like guys pay chicas to leave, same goes for hustlers. They know some people will give in, and pay them to leave. They also seem to act like they have the right to invade your space, annoy and irritate you whenever they feel like it. My goal is to not let them get away with that.
So IMO, there is more to it, than simply making sure one doesn't get cheated or ripped off. Most don't want the shit they're selling/offering in the 1st place, nor are they interested in giving handouts. No means NO.
Once you get to the point where they leave you alone, and watch who they pester in your stead, then it should be apparent why it's important to get to that point where they don't even try you. That doesn't mean they will stop entirely. Because they'll only back off temporarily. You haven't stopped them entirely. And you may not have gained any respect. You will always get enough that come back hustling and begging again, because whatever happened days or weeks before don't mean shit to them. They still may not respect you. And thats the key. If they respected you, that might lead to a seemingly more permanent change in their approach.
They don't respect your position then and they won't respect your position again. Analogy: If you spray and area because you saw roaches, that only stops them for that application. You haven't gotten rid of them. Only chased them off temporarily. But they will be back. One just needs to be as consistent as they are. It's a pain in the butt to have to keep ones guard up at all times, but that's just the nature of the beast. At least the benefits in this environment far out weigh the consistent BS. For me it's getting better. But they still try you. Many are working with the same formula. When they act like they arent on the hustle, they come back with the friendly approach and act like now you both have an understanding of each other. And then the mutha blubba will use that moment to think you've changed your mind and now will give in to a request.
Point being, they are using the same formula to get over. They just hope time has softened your position. Thats what happens when familiarity breeds opportunism in some people. Along with their underlying contempt towards you because they really have a problem with the fact that you are walking around not allowing yourself to be manipulated or exploited. Some take it , that you are rubbing your wealth in their faces.
On a side note. There is this massage / manicure / pedicurist that works the beach. She has tried to use friendship to mask her real intention, which is to make you into a consistent client. The truth is, there is another lady on the playa that does a much better job of giving pedicures. Ms Theresa. Usually when my friend sees me, she comes around, gives me a kiss on the cheek, and in the next moment start looking at everyones feet and hands to offer her services. She doesn't accept that if anybody wanted her services they would let her know. Once again it's sort of a control issue.
In her mind (I'm sure) , our being acquainted is supposed to guarantee that she is the one to have perform my grooming needs. But I've been waiting for the opportunity to bust her bubble. And yesterday it came. She had already paced back and forth a few times already. Along with other ladies looking to offer services. I called Theresa because we didn't see her on the playa. She said she would be there at a certain time. Theresa came and took care of me and my buddy. Meanwhile my friend walked by looking and staring at the back of my head. Smiling at first I'm told but then the smile went away. I'm sure she was hot that Theresa was working HER clients. Moreso, because I do not think Theresa pays the vender fee, that some of the other massage ladies do.
Theresa doesn't care. As far as she is concerned she can do what she does until they tell her she can't. Later that night about 7:30 the massage lady friend attempted to contact me on Tango. Not a text but a phone call. For what I don't know. But she surely needs to get it straight that just because we are acquainted doesn't mean she has rights on who I use for my grooming needs. I fully expect the subject will come up the next time I see her on the playa.
Just a note on the recent discussion of the local street guys.
While most Dominicans are friendly by nature, it can't be said often enough that any local who comes up to you in Sosua unsolicited is never going to do you any favors. They have perfected multiple ways to separate the tourist from his dollars. It's their only means of support. They'll stroke your ego if they can, and watch you give it up like a baby.
Even if a satisfactory deal is struck, they'll expect more down the raod, and will take advantage of your friendliness to the point where you have to tell them eventually to FO. Who needs to have to "avoid" certain people, or even make an enemy?
If you really need something, you will do best to do the soliciting yourself and avoid the first guy in your face, just like coming out of the airport for a cab, or the chica that grabs you when you walk into a bar. They can size up a tourist in a New York minute.
I have never had a problem with being hassled down there, on the street, in bars, or at the beach.
There's is a lot of good info on this subject posted way back on this forum on how to carry yourself and avoid the traps which lead to hassle, complaints, and disappointment.
If you are still going down these dead end roads, you are still a newbie.Sosua hustlers may easily go after and feel more comfortable approaching people who appear to look more like they do, than those that don't. I have observed many hustlers not even bother approaching certain mongers or hassle them less simply because they didn't look like them or didnt relate to them by what they have in common. So don't be so quick to believe that being a newbie is why some individuals with experience are being approached. And for you to stop at that one conclusion is really doing the subject a disservice. And I'm not implying only people of color are being approached by hustlers, but I do believe they are approached a lot more and more consistently than they will others that don't look like them or relate to them.
I've watched the Haitian vendors across from the Bon ice cream parlor completely ignore many of the European/white tourists passing by, or offer a soft sell, to which their response is a quick no or decline, but when it comes to people that look like them, use the friendly "brotherman" approach, and use that hoping that will garner a sale. In many instances a conversation may happen. The hustlers taking time to engage a monger. I just dont see that happening with all mongers. I see it more with mongers that look more like they do. Im not claiming absolutes here. Im saying what I believe is more consistent. More likely.
So make sure you take that into consideration. Don't just believe one conclusion and stick with that. Your experience may be different for more reasons than you think. Not to mention the perception a hustler might have that you don't have anything to offer or wouldn't be likely to fall for the brotherman approach.
Sosua hustlers may easily go after and feel more comfortable approaching people who appear to look more like they do, than those that don't. I have observed many hustlers not even bother approaching certain mongers simply because they didn't look like them. So don't be so quick to believe that being a newbie is why individuals are being approached. And for you to stop at that one conclusion is really doing the subject a disservice. And I'm not implying only black guys are being approached by hustlers, but I do believe they are approached a lot more and more consistently than they will others that don't look like them.
I've watched the Haitian vendors across from the Bon ice cream parlor completely ignore many of the white tourists passing by, or offer a soft sell, to which their response is a quick no or decline, but when it comes to people that look like them, use the friendly "brotherman" approach, and use that hopeing that will garner a sale.
So make sure you take that into consideration. Don't just believe one conclusion and stick with that. Your experience may be different for more reasons than you think. Not to mention the perception a hustler might have that you don't have anything to offer or wouldn't be likely to fall for the brotherman approach.I have travelled all over the world, with all kinds of people. Tourists are considered "marks" by opportunistic locals, whatever color or creed.
I don't think I am "doing a disservice to the subject" to point out that they have perfected the "read" to a fine art.
You fit their profile or you don't. Simple as that.
Race has nothing to do with it.
Go stand in front of the Eiffel Tower, holding a map and a camera and you'll see what I mean, LOL.
ForceSteeler
09-03-14, 15:06
I have travelled all over the world, with all kinds of people. Tourists are considered "marks" by opportunistic locals, whatever color or creed.
I don't think I am "doing a disservice to the subject" to point out that they have perfected the "read" to a fine art.
You fit their profile or you don't. Simple as that.
Race has nothing to do with it.
Go stand in front of the Eiffel Tower, holding a map and a camera and you'll see what I mean, LOL.In Sosua there are no such things as friends. These hustlers and chicas are not your friend, They look at you as a Cash Register. That's it!. My Father always told me, You want to know what people really think about you or know who your real friends are? Act like your Broke. I bet when you act broke and don't have money, the hustlers or chicas won't even look your way.
I have no issues with the guys. If you lived in the DR you would be trying your best to make a decent living the I DR is not easy. There job is get as much as they can I respect that. He'll week are doing the same thing with the ladies. Want all I can get for as little as possible.
I have travelled all over the world, with all kinds of people. Tourists are considered "marks" by opportunistic locals, whatever color or creed.
I don't think I am "doing a disservice to the subject" to point out that they have perfected the "read" to a fine art.
You fit their profile or you don't. Simple as that.
Race has nothing to do with it.
Go stand in front of the Eiffel Tower, holding a map and a camera and you'll see what I mean, LOL.Actually were both correct. You fit their profile or you don't. And how people relate to you based on what you have common can also apply. You want it be one way and it just isn't the case because you believe it or ignorant to it.
Doesn't matter you traveling the world, I'm dealing with one place in particular, Sosua. I am not in dispute with was is generally true or can be found elsewhere in the world. As I said before, I am not speaking in absolutes. I purported to what I observed as being more consistent. Are you grasping that or not?
Tempoecorto
09-03-14, 20:30
I have no issues with the guys. If you lived in the DR you would be trying your best to make a decent living the I DR is not easy. There job is get as much as they can I respect that. He'll week are doing the same thing with the ladies. Want all I can get for as little as possible.Well stated and that too, disarmingly honestly, Old Kool. Guys haranguing with page after page of how mean these vendors are, flock to the DR to sleep with as many women, spending as little as possible. All that is takes is a simple "No thanks" to the street vendors. Much ado about nothing!
Actually were both correct. You fit their profile or you don't. And how people relate to you based on what you have common can also apply. You want it be one way and it just isn't the case because you believe it or ignorant to it.
Doesn't matter you traveling the world, I'm dealing with one place in particular, Sosua. I am not in dispute with was is generally true or can be found elsewhere in the world. As I said before, I am not speaking in absolutes. I purported to what I observed as being more consistent. Are you grasping that or not?Not really, but don't worry about it.
Judging from your posts, if you are telling the truth, you have spent a lot of time with the "local touts". To the point you even know their names. You've have had interactions with them, at your table, telling you long stories, etc.
Classic fishing technique. Can you blame them if they think you are a possible mark?
Takes two to tango.
In Sosua there are no such things as friends. These hustlers and chicas are not your friend, They look at you as a Cash Register. That's it!. My Father always told me, You want to know what people really think about you or know who your real friends are? Act like your Broke. I bet when you act broke and don't have money, the hustlers or chicas won't even look your way.Ain't that the truth!
But there are enough guys around who will, for whatever reason, engage in conversations with "local touts".
Enough to make a living from, obviously.
Logistics and things:
Flight:
Flight was out of SAN to POP on AA for $750 and change. Flights were pretty much on time and with no issues. I really hate the red eye flight, but I keep abusing this old depleted body for some reason.
Hotel:
For the fifth time, I stayed at Casa Cayena. Wilfried met me at the airport; as usual. The place is off the main road, kind of tucked in the back towards the semi private beach. The place is extremely quiet and well kept. Wilfried is still offering breakfast and dinner included in the room rate. I only ate breakfast there twice, but I did have dinner on four nights. The Chicken Cordon Bleu was excellent! Room security was never an issue. I left out my laptop and surface pad daily without any issues. The entire staff is professional and overall outstanding. I abused the pool almost every evening. I will continue to stay there.
Money:
I got lazy and just exchanged money at the hotel, the rate was 42+ change. The rest of the time I abused the ATM machines and vice-versa.
Cell Phone:
I went back to Orange and my SIM card was no longer valid. I had to buy another for 100 pesos. I put 400 pesos of minutes on the card, which was plenty enough.
Food:
Besides eating at Casa Cayena, I ate at other spots. I had the ribs at the Scandinavian place on the beach. They were the best ribs I've ever had in Sosua! I ate at Movida twice, great pasta! I also ate at several food tray places, like at Rumba's and a couple down the road; all were very good. Ollie's is one of my favorite places, but it was closed the entire time. I did try the pizza at Terra Linda, I did not care for it at all. Others rave about it; so be it.
The Beach:
It rained hard the first few days and Herman's was closed; fucked up my whole beach routine. I did make it out for Saturday and Sunday, and there was a fair share of women looking for work. Not as much as previous trips, but still a fair share nevertheless.
The Changes:
Rumba still had the best game in town; but the girls came out later than usual. Classicos was open, but wanted a 200 peso entrance fee. Everyone pays 200 pesos to get in the place. Seeing how most of the women can't afford the entry fee, many stay clear of the place.
Now, I was told by my buddy that lives there that the first 100 women get in free, however, I did not see this for myself. I went there twice, on Saturday night and one week day night, I saw a butt load of men and not enough women both times.
Rumor on the streets was that the'Latin would reopen in 2-3 weeks. I think that if the'Latin reopens, it will be the demise of Classicos; just my uneducated guess.
Fucking Rumba and their music:
I was hanging with Brother P for a few nights, and the last night I was there, Brother and I sat at a table to watch the women come and go. For 2 fucking hours, there was not ONE Latina song played. Every fucking song was proud to use the "and" word, over and fucking over again! OK, off my soapbox.
Women:
It really helped to have established contacts. I spent some time with a few new girls, but also some time with my previous girls. Sosua was not dried up, as some would have you believe. There are still plenty of girls available. Some are asking for 2000 for short time, but many are still going with 1500. It is still a buyer's market.
Final thoughts:
This was my 14th trip in less than 4 years and I watched this place with its ups and downs. Some places are closed while enough places are still open to provide a good assortment of chicas. Friday and Saturday nights were off the hook concerning the number of women that were available. This place still is one of the best values in the world, and also, if you make connections, it is a great place to come back to on a regular basis. I love the women and they seem to love my pesos, so it all kind of works out!
Logistics and things:!Thanks for the update TJ! I'm headed there soon. Looks like business more or less as usual, except in your case it was more, according to the pics.
This is the first time I've ever heard of CC being described as extremely quiet. Every time I've been by there (during the day) it's been animal house, what with the pool parties and all.
I've always liked the location, layout and vibe of the place though, and if it really is quiet like you say, I'll probably stay there next.
For all the men looking at these boards trying to make plans just know this place is to be feared respected and loved all at the same time. You may come and go as you please if you act right but if not you probably will not want to return or they might just not let you leave. Outsiders look at these po po and laugh because of the low technology they have but they make it work for them. I seen a chica get arrested and the cop stop a un knowingly moto and make the guy take the both of them away on the spot.
As for the pick up on women like others have said the girls in Rumbas all start out at 2 k short time but will leave with you for less and the girls on the street will go with you short time for 1 k but if you like the girls then you can make a deal for all night.
Sosua is a great place to play.
Thanks for the update TJ! I'm headed there soon. Looks like business more or less as usual, except in your case it was more, according to the pics.
This is the first time I've ever heard of CC being described as extremely quiet. Every time I've been by there (during the day) it's been animal house, what with the pool parties and all.
I've always liked the location, layout and vibe of the place though, and if it really is quiet like you say, I'll probably stay there next.You may be confusing Casa Cayena with New Garden. I've spent over 50 nights at CC in the last 8 months and don't remember there being any pool parties. There have been some loud and disrespectful guests at times but most of the time it is a quiet and mellow place. There was one time when a group of ten guys stayed there and pissed everyone off back in May, but usually its pretty quiet. You can't beat the place for the price, location, or food as far as I am concerned.
You may be confusing Casa Cayena with New Garden. I've spent over 50 nights at CC in the last 8 months and don't remember there being any pool parties. There have been some loud and disrespectful guests at times but most of the time it is a quiet and mellow place. There was one time when a group of ten guys stayed there and pissed everyone off back in May, but usually its pretty quiet. You can't beat the place for the price, location, or food as far as I am concerned.I could never confuse Casa Cayena and New Garden, but I was only inside CC once for a dance contest around the pool, and the other time I was walking by and a loud party from there was spilling out onto the street. It's good to know that there's another good place that I can stay at.
Cheers.
SavePros321
09-04-14, 03:48
I could never confuse Casa Cayena and New Garden, but I was only inside CC once for a dance contest around the pool, and the other time I was walking by and a loud party from there was spilling out onto the street. It's good to know that there's another good place that I can stay at.
Cheers.Someone posted a YouTube video not too long ago of a booty shaking / bikini show going on at Casa Cayena.
Not really, but don't worry about it.
Judging from your posts, if you are telling the truth, you have spent a lot of time with the "local touts". To the point you even know their names. You've have had interactions with them, at your table, telling you long stories, etc.
Classic fishing technique. Can you blame them if they think you are a possible mark?
Takes two to tango.
Ain't that the truth!
But there are enough guys around who will, for whatever reason, engage in conversations with "local touts".
Enough to make a living from, obviously.You grasp it alright. Maybe you got your blinders on, I don't know. But when you have your own tout (your so-called LP) constantly begging you every week for money, you are just as much a target as anyone else. No chica could be in contact with you to beg like that, unless you opened the door to facilitate that. Like the man said, hustlers and chicas. You've had interactions with your hustler/chica to the point you know her name, had interactions at your table, and heard all the long stories of shit she laid on you. Classic example of one who could look in the mirror and see they are talking about themselves without realizing it. Likewise, I don't blame her either for treating you like a mark and keep begging you for money. It doesnt matter if you comply or not. The point is you put yourself in that position to be approached like that. No different than anybody else having hustlers and chicas trying to get over daily. Whether they get anywhere in the hustle thats the key. If you end up sending a hustler $200 for services you havent received yet, I'd say they did a good job in their hustle. So it's obvious, where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.
You grasp it alright. Maybe you got your blinders on, I don't know. But when you have your own tout (your so-called LP) constantly begging you every week for money, you are just as much a target as anyone else. No chica could be in contact with you to beg like that, unless you opened the door to facilitate that. Like the man said, hustlers and chicas. You've had interactions with your hustler/chica to the point you know her name, had interactions at your table, and heard all the long stories of shit she laid on you. Classic example of one who could look in the mirror and see they are talking about themselves without realizing it. Likewise, I don't blame her either for treating you like a mark and keep begging you for money. It doesnt matter if you comply or not. The point is you put yourself in that position to be approached like that. No different than anybody else having hustlers and chicas trying to get over daily. Whether they get anywhere in the hustle thats the key. If you end up sending a hustler $200 for services you havent received yet, I'd say they did a good job in their hustle. So it's obvious, where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.Begging? LOL If she heard you say that in our local bar she would probably hit you over the head with her fake designer handbag.
LP, bless her, is a semi pro, who like all our chicas has basic financial needs.
She gives me all I want, and more, and I reciprocate with a little (for me) dinero.
But, since you always "know" more about our relationship than we do, I can only surmise that you are fucking her too?
LOL.
On a more serious note, you spend far too much time trying to analyse complete strangers (like me) and the local con men, and tortuously trying fit every one else's situation into your own flawed worldview. It's easy to see why you have so much trouble down there.
Relax, go fuck some putas, and tell us about it.
After all, that's the reason we come here.
Someone posted a YouTube video not too long ago of a booty shaking / bikini show going on at Casa Cayena.I looked but didn't find the CC one.
But there's enough stuff on there that makes me pine to get back there as soon as I can!
Will you be down anytime soon?
Charles Pooter
09-04-14, 13:41
I've spent over 50 nights at CC in the last 8 months and don't remember there being any pool parties
An ex-pat friend of mine has organized at least three pool parties at Casa Cayena over the past year, one of which I attended on one of my rare visits to Sosua. But they were all invited guests only, low key affairs, about a dozen guys and a dozen haitianas, all putas but not the extrovert hardcore sorts you meet on Pedro Clisante. No loud music or sex in the pool and definitely no videos allowed. And I think he said Wilfried no longer welcomes such events.
... usually its pretty quiet. You can't beat the place for the price, location, or food as far as I am concerned.
Agreed.
Begging? LOL If she heard you say that in our local bar she would probably hit you over the head with her fake designer handbag.
LP, bless her, is a semi pro, who like all our chicas has basic financial needs.
She gives me all I want, and more, and I reciprocate with a little (for me) dinero.
But, since you always "know" more about our relationship than we do, I can only surmise that you are fucking her too?
LOL.
On a more serious note, you spend far too much time trying to analyse complete strangers (like me) and the local con men, and tortuously trying fit every one else's situation into your own flawed worldview. It's easy to see why you have so much trouble down there.
Relax, go fuck some putas, and tell us about it.
After all, that's the reason we come here.There is no such thing as her being a semi-pro. She is a pro plain and simple. When you leave, her job of hustling gringos doesn't stop. The fact she has not missed a meal, has a roof over her head, and more clothes on her back should be a clue, she really is not in a financial bind as she tries to make you believe. In fact her telling you she needs financial assistance is a farce. All the other dokes are taking care of her already, while you think you need to send her money for rent, supposedly to prepare for your arrival etc. How dumb is that?
Anyway, I made my point clear. You are a just another self righteous pot calling a kettle black.
ForceSteeler
09-04-14, 15:04
There is no such thing as her being a semi-pro. She is a pro plain and simple. When you leave, her job of hustling gringos doesn't stop. The fact she has not missed a meal, has a roof over her head, and more clothes on her back should be a clue, she really is not in a financial bind as she tries to make you believe. In fact her telling you she needs financial assistance is a farce. All the other dokes are taking care of her already, while you think you need to send her money for rent, supposedly to prepare for your arrival etc. How dumb is that?
Anyway, I made my point clear. You are a just another self righteous pot calling a kettle black.Theres Plenty of Semi-Pros / Non-Pros in DR. Theres a lot of girls I meet on Facebook and other social networks (Even on the beach) that you would not see walking around in Sosua Bars like Classicos / Rumbas. (For fear that there families will find out).
There is no such thing as her being a semi-pro. She is a pro plain and simple. When you leave, her job of hustling gringos doesn't stop. The fact she has not missed a meal, has a roof over her head, and more clothes on her back should be a clue, she really is not in a financial bind as she tries to make you believe. In fact her telling you she needs financial assistance is a farce. All the other dokes are taking care of her already, while you think you need to send her money for rent, supposedly to prepare for your arrival etc. How dumb is that?
Anyway, I made my point clear. You are a just another self righteous pot calling a kettle black.You two need to stop feuding over all this stuff and bashing one another. In the past is was amusing at first, but its gotten old.
There is no such thing as her being a semi-pro. She is a pro plain and simple. When you leave, her job of hustling gringos doesn't stop. The fact she has not missed a meal, has a roof over her head, and more clothes on her back should be a clue, she really is not in a financial bind as she tries to make you believe. In fact her telling you she needs financial assistance is a farce. All the other dokes are taking care of her already, while you think you need to send her money for rent, supposedly to prepare for your arrival etc. How dumb is that?
Anyway, I made my point clear. You are a just another self righteous pot calling a kettle black.Tell you what, perfesser, you spend your quality time with you local con men associates, trying to figure out why they want to rip you off, and I'll spend mine with a beautiful semi pro.
(Have you never figured out there is a difference, yet?)
I try to ignor him but he is the most obnoxious ass hole I have seen in quite awhile. He brings the other site as holes out. He is paranoid and insecure. Everyone is out to get him. Women stand him up all the time. Guess why!
Were he to stop posting many of us would pop a brew.
You two need to stop feuding over all this stuff and bashing one another. In the past is was amusing at first, but its gotten old.
I try to ignor him but he is the most obnoxious ass hole I have seen in quite awhile. He brings the other site as holes out. He is paranoid and insecure. Everyone is out to get him. Women stand him up all the time. Guess why!
Were he to stop posting many of us would pop a brew.There's one in every crowd. No big deal, but the way he researches 3 year old posts to come up with his arguments can have a chilling effect on boards such as this where we try to be as honest as possible, and admit our flaws, weaknesses and mistakes.
I don't respond to his original posts, as I respect his right to his own views, but I'll be damned if I'll let him post lies about a situation and people he knows absolutely nothing about.
Theres Plenty of Semi-Pros / Non-Pros in DR. Theres a lot of girls I meet on Facebook and other social networks (Even on the beach) that you would not see walking around in Sosua Bars like Classicos / Rumbas. (For fear that there families will find out).Ok so who is disputing that? I was talking about one individual, and addressing one individual.
You two need to stop feuding over all this stuff and bashing one another. In the past is was amusing at first, but its gotten old.It is not against policy to express a point of view or have a disagreement. With that being said, I'm not entertaining anybody trying to control my right to express my pov and / or give feedback to what I disagree with in someone elses. I can see we got a little boys club going on here. And its one of the reasons I was advised in private why some vets stop posting in this forum. My suggestion to anyone having a problem is to learn how to cope, and change your reaction. Not try to come in here Don Kinging on a message board.
I try to ignor him but he is the most obnoxious ass hole I have seen in quite awhile. He brings the other site as holes out. He is paranoid and insecure. Everyone is out to get him. Women stand him up all the time. Guess why!
Were he to stop posting many of us would pop a brew.
There's one in every crowd. No big deal, but the way he researches 3 year old posts to come up with his arguments can have a chilling effect on boards such as this where we try to be as honest as possible, and admit our flaws, weaknesses and mistakes.
I don't respond to his original posts, as I respect his right to his own views, but I'll be damned if I'll let him post lies about a situation and people he knows absolutely nothing about.Think about this very deeply since you both are like clones towards my posts. Supposedly yall don't have a problem with touts, beggars, blah blah blah. However both of you and at least one more overly sensitive individual in this forum have a big problem with words someone types on a computer screen.
Its not like any of you have met me or seen me, but your emotions are all entwined in this forum that yall are oblivious to it.
My point is. Get a grip on yourself. Stop taking and or making debate differences of opinion personal. If you have a disagreement just express what and how you disagree. I see that's the obvious problem with you all. I don't have a problem expressing my Pov. And I try to support my position with reasoning or substance. What do we see in return, a bunch of whining about your personal issues with what you perceive of the poster. Thats why I stay on you muggs necks and got others coming to your defense because they must be feeling sorry for you. They want to see yall give a good counter, absent of that, they have to step in and throw in the towel. You have two options. Continue with the dumb stuff or ignore. Or a third option is come correct with substantive that someone can address and entertain. Not weakass jabs. Let us know when you can do that?
It is not against policy to express a point of view or have a disagreement. With that being said, I'm not entertaining anybody trying to control my right to express my pov and / or give feedback to what I disagree with in someone elses. I can see we got a little boys club going on here. And its one of the reasons I was advised in private why some vets stop posting in this forum. My suggestion to anyone having a problem is to learn how to cope, and change your reaction. Not try to come in here Don Kinging on a message board.I'm advising you in public (not private) that you are making an ass of yourself on this forum.
This is why this section should be reports only!
I'm sure my report was buried quickly because all of the fucking thought provoking bullshit added to this thread.
First, it is a shame that no one has given Tomjackin the respect he deserves for taking his time to support us with a great report and pictures, that's what this forum should be about. Few guys do what he does.
As far as Wrx2005, I think he does take too much time over-evaluating situations, and he should have more fun while while on vacation. With that said I also think he is good about calling out some of the BS on this forum. He does give detailed and interesting daily reports on his activities while in the DR. They are honest (maybe he does have problems with girls standing him up) and factual (Sure he doesn't like being hustled). But how many guys give you the good and bad nowadays?
What I like about Wrx2005 is that he can match wits with guys who think they are the most intelligent guys on the board who never give trip reports or pictures. We have guys who have never given reports or pictures who have been on this board for ten years but claim to be experts. My life of travel and fun has been an open book, and so has WRX. Oldkool, Oakie and Tomjackin and others have room to vent because they give back.
Look, WRX is right, we have gotten soft and maybe its good that he stirs the pot because we have guys running to the WU every month, guys falling for the first chica that says "hola popi", and guys swear they have a girlfriend because they give her money. Sosua has become hardcore from the chicas to the street hustlers, we need a guy every now and then who can be hardcore from our side. Many Sosua vets have left Sosua because Sosua is a new man's game and the old heads have moved on to better spots. Everyones opinion is accepted here even if its something some don't want to hear.
Thanks for writing your interesting trip report. Good to see you had a nice time despite some rainy weather. Headed back first week in December after just getting back a little over a week ago. It sure does help things having a few go to girls in the old black book. Mixed in some new friends and I think makes for a nice combination over there.
Logistics and things:
Flight:
Flight was out of SAN to POP on AA for $750 and change. Flights were pretty much on time and with no issues. I really hate the red eye flight, but I keep abusing this old depleted body for some reason.
Hotel:
For the fifth time, I stayed at Casa Cayena. Wilfried met me at the airport; as usual. The place is off the main road, kind of tucked in the back towards the semi private beach. The place is extremely quiet and well kept. Wilfried is still offering breakfast and dinner included in the room rate. I only ate breakfast there twice, but I did have dinner on four nights. The Chicken Cordon Bleu was excellent! Room security was never an issue. I left out my laptop and surface pad daily without any issues. The entire staff is professional and overall outstanding. I abused the pool almost every evening. I will continue to stay there...
This is why this section should be reports only!
I'm sure my report was buried quickly because all of the fucking thought provoking bullshit added to this thread.You're right, "the noise is degrading the signal" just like static on an old radio. I've been part of that.
I've gotten so much good stuff here, that out of respect for the board and it's members, I for my part will try to do better.
Logistics and things:
Flight:
Flight was out of SAN to POP on AA for $750 and change. Flights were pretty much on time and with no issues. I really hate the red eye flight, but I keep abusing this old depleted body for some reason.
Hotel:
For the fifth time, I stayed at Casa Cayena. Wilfried met me at the airport; as usual. The place is off the main road, kind of tucked in the back towards the semi private beach. The place is extremely quiet and well kept. Wilfried is still offering breakfast and dinner included in the room rate. I only ate breakfast there twice, but I did have dinner on four nights. The Chicken Cordon Bleu was excellent! Room security was never an issue. I left out my laptop and surface pad daily without any issues. The entire staff is professional and overall outstanding. I abused the pool almost every evening. I will continue to stay there.
Money:
I got lazy and just exchanged money at the hotel, the rate was 42+ change. The rest of the time I abused the ATM machines and vice-versa.
Cell Phone:
I went back to Orange and my SIM card was no longer valid. I had to buy another for 100 pesos. I put 400 pesos of minutes on the card, which was plenty enough.
Food:
Besides eating at Casa Cayena, I ate at other spots. I had the ribs at the Scandinavian place on the beach. They were the best ribs I've ever had in Sosua! I ate at Movida twice, great pasta! I also ate at several food tray places, like at Rumba's and a couple down the road; all were very good. Ollie's is one of my favorite places, but it was closed the entire time. I did try the pizza at Terra Linda, I did not care for it at all. Others rave about it; so be it.
The Beach:
It rained hard the first few days and Herman's was closed; fucked up my whole beach routine. I did make it out for Saturday and Sunday, and there was a fair share of women looking for work. Not as much as previous trips, but still a fair share nevertheless.
The Changes:
Rumba still had the best game in town; but the girls came out later than usual. Classicos was open, but wanted a 200 peso entrance fee. Everyone pays 200 pesos to get in the place. Seeing how most of the women can't afford the entry fee, many stay clear of the place.
Now, I was told by my buddy that lives there that the first 100 women get in free, however, I did not see this for myself. I went there twice, on Saturday night and one week day night, I saw a butt load of men and not enough women both times.
Rumor on the streets was that the'Latin would reopen in 2-3 weeks. I think that if the'Latin reopens, it will be the demise of Classicos; just my uneducated guess.
Fucking Rumba and their music:
I was hanging with Brother P for a few nights, and the last night I was there, Brother and I sat at a table to watch the women come and go. For 2 fucking hours, there was not ONE Latina song played. Every fucking song was proud to use the "and" word, over and fucking over again! OK, off my soapbox.
Women:
It really helped to have established contacts. I spent some time with a few new girls, but also some time with my previous girls. Sosua was not dried up, as some would have you believe. There are still plenty of girls available. Some are asking for 2000 for short time, but many are still going with 1500. It is still a buyer's market.
Final thoughts:
This was my 14th trip in less than 4 years and I watched this place with its ups and downs. Some places are closed while enough places are still open to provide a good assortment of chicas. Friday and Saturday nights were off the hook concerning the number of women that were available. This place still is one of the best values in the world, and also, if you make connections, it is a great place to come back to on a regular basis. I love the women and they seem to love my pesos, so it all kind of works out!In Praise of Tetas.
I loved the pics.
They way you shot and handled those tetas, was like some museum curator handling precious objects, showing the proper respect.
Casa Cayenna.
I'm thinking of staying there for the first time, can I assume that It's ok to take in more than one chica there at a time? (not likely, but just in case I get lucky).
Travel.
The cheapest flight from where I am is about $600, then I got the taxi, hotel, food and drink on top of that. For about $750 Nolitours can get me an all in package at the Casa Marina on the beach, which still gives me lots left over for a room in town when I need one. The wristband thing is a drawback. Any advice?
This is why this section should be reports only!
I'm sure my report was buried quickly because all of the fucking thought provoking bullshit added to this thread.With all do respect. Ty for the pictures and the trip report, but I like your old style of reporting. When you give us a play by play action. For Example: ".
I decided that the last day in Sosua I would spend with my favorite SD girl. Before she arrived, Herman cooked up some steaks, which we enjoyed with some red wine from Chile. I was in the water when SD girl arrived and Herman directed her in my direction. She came close to the water, but the surf was kicking up and she did not want to get her hair wet; like most of the other girls. So we retired to the table and hung out until around six. Herman discussed closing his place down for the summer, or maybe for good for that matter. He has been on the beach for quite a few years; I respect whatever decision he makes.
SD girl and I had a nice time in the pool. After the pool, she reminded me during rack operations why I would be seeing her when I return to Sosua, or maybe take a trip to SD; I doubt that last thought. We had a nice meal at Casa Cayena and I sent her off to work. She wanted to stay the night, but I reminded her that my mom does not allow sleepovers; she understood, I think.
Later while sitting at the door at Rumba, I turn around and there were two girls standing behind me. One of them was fucking hot! I reached back and grabbed her hand, brought her over, and bought her a beer. She was from SD and only 19 years old; I fell in love! I was completely drained out of leche but I had to take my own advice, that I sometimes give other mongers. My advice? Never get on that plane with any regrets! Never have to say or ask,"I should have, I could have, or Why didn't I" statements or questions.
I told her my leche dilemma and she laughed, but I assured her that my tongue was ready to report to duty. I also told her that I would lick her until one of us passed out; she laughed again. She was such a sweetheart in the room and I really enjoyed spending time with her. Plus, the Little Sailor was happy that he wasn't called in for duty because he was just plain fucking tired! It was a great way to end the last night in town. ".
That's the crazy shit one on one shit that's signatures your style of mongering and makes me look forward to reading your post. I want to hear about the actions of the chicas you encountered and what crazy things you and Bro P did. I want to hear about the crazy Tijuana who states ""I'll plant my face in your hot ass" getting loose in Sosua.
Wrx2005 takes us with him with his detail trips reports and I respect him for that. Man that brother can analyze!
Fucking Rumba and their music:
I was hanging with Brother P for a few nights, and the last night I was there, Brother and I sat at a table to watch the women come and go. For 2 fucking hours, there was not ONE Latina song played. Every fucking song was proud to use the "and" word, over and fucking over again! OK, off my soapbox.
Baby I love you.
And, and, and, and, and, and, um I've forgotten the words.
Listen to the 1:45 mark onwards. Hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI5fU6ZbyaA
Casa Cayenna.
I'm thinking of staying there for the first time, can I assume that It's ok to take in more than one chica there at a time? (not likely, but just in case I get lucky).
Casa Cayena is very "Happy Hour" friendly. Because of the weather, I was only able to pull off two "Happy Hours. ".
When ever you see two girls walking together during the day or early evening, most will suggests "Happy Hour. " So being lucky is not an issue, choosing wisely is more of a concern.
Casa Cayena is very "Happy Hour" friendly. Because of the weather, I was only able to pull off two "Happy Hours. ".
When ever you see two girls walking together during the day or early evening, most will suggests "Happy Hour. " So being lucky is not an issue, choosing wisely is more of a concern.You're probably younger than I am, so I imagine you sent them away "happy".
What I meant by getting "lucky" was getting my GF (Sorry Wrxy, I mean my regular, that better?) to finally go for a threesome.
In Praise of Tetas.
I loved the pics.
They way you shot and handled those tetas, was like some museum curator handling precious objects, showing the proper respect.
Casa Cayenna.
I'm thinking of staying there for the first time, can I assume that It's ok to take in more than one chica there at a time? (not likely, but just in case I get lucky).
Travel.
The cheapest flight from where I am is about $600, then I got the taxi, hotel, food and drink on top of that. For about $750 Nolitours can get me an all in package at the Casa Marina on the beach, which still gives me lots left over for a room in town when I need one. The wristband thing is a drawback. Any advice?Unless you have got a second person for your AI room and a heavy discounted rate by your travel agent staying at AI never pays off.
Go with CC. Duos are OK.
With all do respect. Ty for the pictures and the trip report, but I like your old style of reporting. When you give us a play by play action. Yeah I know, I got lazy with my last DR TR. But only because I put a lot of effort in my recent Lima, Peru TR. Here are some of the good thoughts I had in my long stay in Lima:
"The Women:
Because the trip was to focus on Spanish, I contacted several women on Latin American Cupid. The ones I contacted had no English speaking skills. This does take time and a lot of effort. Three of the four women I met online, we had conversations on Skype prior to my arrival. The women were all in their mid-thirty's. Out of the four women I met, three of them ended up in my apartment for rack operations. The woman with the two surprises for me turned out to be way too timid, but she did prove to be a great tour guide.
I did ask for David's help for the first night so I could focus the days thereafter. David's friend arrived on time she was a wonderful girl. She wanted to practice her English, while I butchered Spanish to my best ability. She was pretty, friendly, and quite a bit for fun. I called her a week later. She came by and after playtime, I took her to Tanta for a late dinner. Thank you so much David!
Surprise number one:
Miss Timid told me on Skype that she had a surprise for me on Saturday, and then another on Sunday. Both surprises required me to wake up before noon; dammit! We took a taxi to San Isidro and went to El Cascajal restaurant. It was a large place and the buffet was all the local food that Lima had to offer. The restaurant also had a band and quite a good show to boot.
There were two couples sitting near our table. During the announcements, one of the dudes went on stage and then asked his date to join him on the stage. The dumb bastard dropped to one knee and asked his date to marry him. I wanted to stop him; but I was too late! A tad later, I called over the mesero and told him I wanted to buy the happy couple some drinks. Miss Timid said that maybe the couple might not want the drinks; WRONG! After they received the drinks, they both got up and came to our table for hugs, kisses, and photos.
Surprise number two:
After Miss Timid told me to bring my sunglasses, we took a taxi to San Isidro and then we got out of the cab and started walking; she walked, I just followed. Then, we get into a secret taxi and headed out on some highway. I was told to would be an hour ride. About halfway there, I got curious and asked her where in the hell were we going. She told me that we were going to where she lives. Wait a fucking minute! I remembered she lived with her parents! FUCK ME TO TEARS! My very own meet the parents movie?
We stop and some complex in Chodarayo, entered the security gate, and took yet another private car up the hill to her house. Papa was in the front yard and gave a very nice greeting, and another nice greeting came from Mama in the house. Hell, I had to use every damn Spanish word that I could remember during the multiple conversations. Papa helped! He whipped up a batch of Pisco Sour; which I needed badly! Papa also cooked up my favorite dish, Aji de Gallina; which was excellent! As we were all eating on the front porch, Papa broke out a couple of bottles of wine; I liked that dude!
Later, Miss Timid and I took a bus ride to Chosica. This is where we found another secret taxi to head back to San Isidro. It was apparent that many people flocked to Chosica because the place had sunshine! It being a Sunday night, it seemed the whole country was headed back to Lima. The traffic sucked! It took almost three hours to get back. As I was saying goodbye to Miss Timid, she mentioned she wanted to see me the next weekend. Two days without a hand on my penis; wasn't about to happen again! All that being said, it was still an overall good experience.
La Iglesia:
One of my Cupid dates, we only had e-mail contact and we started texting after I set up my phone. She texted that she wanted to meet in Parque Kennedy. I asked where in the park, and she told me INSIDE the church. Why in the fuck did it have to be INSIDE the church? I thought to myself, hell, I've been to Mogadishu, Kuwait, and Iraq; how much more dangerous can a church be? Just take baby steps!
I got to the church, but the first obstacle were the stairs. I braved up and conquered those bastards. Stepping through the big doors was the next obstacle; I was feeling cocky at this point and walked right on through! FUCK! I'm INSIDE the church and still alive! No explosions, lighting strikes, nothing! There was a service / mass going on and holy water was flying at will.
There was a line of people on my right and they were waiting to take their turn in this funny looking black box. My first thought, "Glory Hole? Hell yeah!" I was about to jump in line until I found out people were confessing their sins in this box. Fuck that! Hell, it would take at least a month for me to confess my sins, and I had a date, so I did not have the time anyhow. My date spotted me and waved. I wanted to yell, "Get the fuck over here before something horrifying happens!" But I didn't. We got the fuck out of there in a hurry!
Camaro1257
09-06-14, 13:51
Yeah I know, I got lazy with my last DR TR. But only because I put a lot of effort in my recent Lima, Peru TR.
Thank you for a very entertaining read.
Tempoecorto
09-06-14, 15:59
Yeah I know, I got lazy with my last DR TR. But only because I put a lot of effort in my recent Lima, Peru TR. I went and read your whole report in the Peru forum, TomJackin. One worthwhile report to read not to speak of your tongue in cheek style, despite Mogadishu, Kuwait and Iraq.
Question, you started with a disclaimer that the photos would be of food there but I did not see any. Would you be posting those somewhere, later? Weird as it sounds in this forum I am interested more in those than photos of boobs, even in your inimitable style.
The other question is, were the twenty somethings unavailable at the online venue you visited or you chose them because you fancy them? Thirty somethings are excellent for their sexual appetite and I am curious given that the DR is so full of 20 somethings.
Thanks
First, it is a shame that no one has given Tomjackin the respect he deserves for taking his time to support us with a great report and pictures, that's what this forum should be about. Few guys do what he does.
As far as Wrx2005, I think he does take too much time over-evaluating situations, and he should have more fun while while on vacation. With that said I also think he is good about calling out some of the BS on this forum. He does give detailed and interesting daily reports on his activities while in the DR. They are honest (maybe he does have problems with girls standing him up) and factual (Sure he doesn't like being hustled). But how many guys give you the good and bad nowadays?
What I like about Wrx2005 is that he can match wits with guys who think they are the most intelligent guys on the board who never give trip reports or pictures. We have guys who have never given reports or pictures who have been on this board for ten years but claim to be experts. My life of travel and fun has been an open book, and so has WRX. Oldkool, Oakie and Tomjackin and others have room to vent because they give back.
Look, WRX is right, we have gotten soft and maybe its good that he stirs the pot because we have guys running to the WU every month, guys falling for the first chica that says "hola popi", and guys swear they have a girlfriend because they give her money. Sosua has become hardcore from the chicas to the street hustlers, we need a guy every now and then who can be hardcore from our side. Many Sosua vets have left Sosua because Sosua is a new man's game and the old heads have moved on to better spots. Everyones opinion is accepted here even if its something some don't want to hear.For some of us Sosua is still a mongers paradise. There may be other destinations, but for a lot of us, it is cheap, safe, easy and well supplied with talent.
Maybe is is going hardcore on PC (maybe it always was) but there is plenty of opportunity to expand your horizons a little further out of town.
But from what I read here, guys who are spending more than a quick week down there are getting bored with the hardcore sportfucking.
There are many enjoyable alternatives for a good time down there.
Often mentioned are BB, FOD, DC and other dating sites, which I have no interest in, because I have my own satifying alternative, a long term relationship with a semi pro.
Even my biggest critic, your pal Wrxy posted this just a couple days ago.
"Now from a guy that stays down there for several weeks at a time, potentially for months at a time, my interest is leaning more to getting with non pro chicas, that can offer more in terms of character and personality, GFE. ".
And he's the guy that claims I can't have a semi pro GF? Gimme a break!
So I, for one, will continue to extoll the advantages of Sosua to all who will listen, especially newbies like I once was, who didn't know it existed.
(Until I found it here, thanks to you guys).
Tempoecorto
09-07-14, 03:41
So I, for one, will continue to extoll the advantages of Sosua to all who will listen, especially newbies like I once was, who didn't know it existed.There are a lot of people who have been singing its requiem ever since I came to this board first time in 2011. As Tomjackin said in his recent report, Sosua is still good. It may not be what it was 10 years back but who cares. If one has some intelligence (reading the buyer bewares on this board for example) and a little money, you can have a great time. Without worrying about the street vendors and the chicas "out to get you". Of course, if one can get beyond "how much" in Spanish, one can even have a great time, this from a guy to goes there now for the food. Haha!
Yeah I know, I got lazy with my last DR TR. But only because I put a lot of effort in my recent Lima, Peru TR. Here are some of the good thoughts I had in my long stay in Lima:
"The Women:
Because the trip was to focus on Spanish, I contacted several women on Latin American Cupid. The ones I contacted had no English speaking skills. This does take time and a lot of effort. Three of the four women I met online, we had conversations on Skype prior to my arrival. The women were all in their mid-thirty's. Out of the four women I met, three of them ended up in my apartment for rack operations. The woman with the two surprises for me turned out to be way too timid, but she did prove to be a great tour guide
There was a line of people on my right and they were waiting to take their turn in this funny looking black box. My first thought, "Glory Hole? Hell yeah!" I was about to jump in line until I found out people were confessing their sins in this box. Fuck that! Hell, it would take at least a month for me to confess my sins, and I had a date, so I did not have the time anyhow. My date spotted me and waved. I wanted to yell, "Get the fuck over here before something horrifying happens!" But I didn't. We got the fuck out of there in a hurry!Now that's what I talking about!
Member #4398
09-07-14, 23:28
Just wanted to share a cool route for other things to do during the day while staying in Sosua or Cabarete and explore other towns instead of hanging out lazily in your hotel during the day. This was not a mongering activity and was more to try something different and check the transportation systme. This was last month in August 2014 while I was staying in both Cabarete and Sosua. I recommend this for the day only and not at night time because the transportation at night changes completely and the night is a completely different animal in the DR. I took a carrito (shared taxi) or guagua from the avenida principal in Cabarete accross from the big supermarket Janet's at about 9 am. The carrito or guagua can also be taken accross the Texaco gas station locate in Sosua. The carrito goes to the town of Gaspar Hernandez (about 25 Kilometers) and from there another carrito to Rio San Juan (another 27 km). This is super cheap, don't remember, but less than 2 dollars to Gaspar Hernandez and less than 2 to Rio San Juan. If you take a carrito and not a guagua (there is a guagua that goes all the way to Rio San Juan but I did not see any so I took a Carrito), you have to tell the driver to drop you off in Gaspar Hernandez at a stop where you could catch another carrito or Guagua to Rio San Juan. Those guaguas and carritos drive super fast and are filled with people to more than capacity. If you don't like being in a car packed like a sardine, this is not for you. From Gaspar Hernandez, you take another carrito or Guagua towards Rio San Juan. You ask the driver to drop you off at the Laguna Gri Gri stop. I found out that from there you can continue taking more Guaguas or Carritos to go to the big town of Nagua and from Nagua to the town of Samana / las terrenas. But to go directly to Samana / Terrenas is best to go express since there is big express guagua that leaves from sosua and Cabarete at about 630 am and 7 am. I decided to stop at the Laguna Gri gri stop in Rio San Juan and from there, I had to walk five minutes to the gri gri lake. At the laguna gri gri, I noticed some boats that were touring inside the lake for 1-2 hours tours. I saw a boat that was about ready to leave and was full of Asian tourists (I found that some of those Asian people spoke English and the majority were residing in USA, California). In any case, I asked the boat driver how much it was for the boat ride and where was the boat heading to. He said the boat was going around the lake, a bit inside the ocean, for an hour or 2 and making a stops inside la Cueva de golondrinas (a cave with some black birds), la piscina de Bermudez, and Playa Caleton. He said there was great food at Playa Caleton and that was enough to convince me. He tried to give me the gringo treatment and said it was 1000 pesos or 25 dollars. I said thanks but it was too expensive and then I began to walk away then he lowered the price to 500 pesos. I agreed and jumped inside the boat. I found out later that I could have given him 400 pesos instead of the 500 and that should have been fine because I heard his boss asking him how much I paid and he told the boss that I only paid only 400 so that he could get the 100 or $2.5 dollar difference for himself. In any case, it was great boat trip with the bunch of Asian tourist. The stop was made at the Cueva de Golondrinas and then at the Piscina de Bermudez which is just a nice beach that looks like a pool and where the tourists got off to swim. After that the boat made a final stop at the Playa Caleton. Playa Caleton is aa pretty good beach and secluded beach with a bunch of local people swimming and great food. The boat driver told me that I could either return to Rio San Juan / Laguna Grigri in the boat or stay at the beach and return on my own by public transportation. He said I could take a motoconcho back to the guagua station in Caleton and return to Rio San Juan, or go straight to Gaspar Hernandez, Cabarete, Sosua or Puerto Plata. I decided to stay in the beach for 2-3 hours while and enjoyed a terrific massage at the beach and after that a cotorra (parrot) fish with tostones and salad. At about 4 pm, I decided to return because I did not want to be in the middle of nowhere at night time. I took a 5 minutes motoconcho to the guagua station near playa Caleton. From there, the guagua was going straight to Cabarete, Sosua, and Puerto Plata. I was back in Cabarete at about 5 pm, after enjoying the fun trip, great food, and massage, just ready for the evening Chica activities in Cabarete and Sosua.
Unless you have got a second person for your AI room and a heavy discounted rate by your travel agent staying at AI never pays off.
.I agree with this totally.
Playa Caleton is aa pretty good beach and secluded beach with a bunch of local people swimming and great food.. I was back in Cabarete at about 5 pm, after enjoying the fun trip, great food, and massage, just ready for the evening Chica activities in Cabarete and Sosua.I am glad you got the chance to see this place. Most people never will.
Just wanted to share a cool route for other things to do during the day while staying in Sosua or Cabarete and explore other towns instead of hanging out lazily in your hotel during the day. This was not a mongering activity and was more to try something different and check the transportation systme. This was last month in August 2014 while I was staying in both Cabarete and Sosua. I recommend this for the day only and not at night time because the transportation at night changes completely and the night is a completely different animal in the DR. I took a carrito (shared taxi) or guagua from the avenida principal in Cabarete accross from the big supermarket Janet's at about 9 am. The carrito or guagua can also be taken accross the Texaco gas station locate in Sosua. The carrito goes to the town of Gaspar Hernandez (about 25 Kilometers) and from there another carrito to Rio San Juan (another 27 km). This is super cheap, don't remember, but less than 2 dollars to Gaspar Hernandez and less than 2 to Rio San Juan. If you take a carrito and not a guagua (there is a guagua that goes all the way to Rio San Juan but I did not see any so I took a Carrito), you have to tell the driver to drop you off in Gaspar Hernandez at a stop where you could catch another carrito or Guagua to Rio San Juan. Those guaguas and carritos drive super fast and are filled with people to more than capacity. If you don't like being in a car packed like a sardine, this is not for you. From Gaspar Hernandez, you take another carrito or Guagua towards Rio San Juan. You ask the driver to drop you off at the Laguna Gri Gri stop. I found out that from there you can continue taking more Guaguas or Carritos to go to the big town of Nagua and from Nagua to the town of Samana / las terrenas. But to go directly to Samana / Terrenas is best to go express since there is big express guagua that leaves from sosua and Cabarete at about 630 am and 7 am. I decided to stop at the Laguna Gri gri stop in Rio San Juan and from there, I had to walk five minutes to the gri gri lake. At the laguna gri gri, I noticed some boats that were touring inside the lake for 1-2 hours tours. I saw a boat that was about ready to leave and was full of Asian tourists (I found that some of those Asian people spoke English and the majority were residing in USA, California). In any case, I asked the boat driver how much it was for the boat ride and where was the boat heading to. He said the boat was going around the lake, a bit inside the ocean, for an hour or 2 and making a stops inside la Cueva de golondrinas (a cave with some black birds), la piscina de Bermudez, and Playa Caleton. He said there was great food at Playa Caleton and that was enough to convince me. He tried to give me the gringo treatment and said it was 1000 pesos or 25 dollars. I said thanks but it was too expensive and then I began to walk away then he lowered the price to 500 pesos. I agreed and jumped inside the boat. I found out later that I could have given him 400 pesos instead of the 500 and that should have been fine because I heard his boss asking him how much I paid and he told the boss that I only paid only 400 so that he could get the 100 or $2.5 dollar difference for himself. In any case, it was great boat trip with the bunch of Asian tourist. The stop was made at the Cueva de Golondrinas and then at the Piscina de Bermudez which is just a nice beach that looks like a pool and where the tourists got off to swim. After that the boat made a final stop at the Playa Caleton. Playa Caleton is aa pretty good beach and secluded beach with a bunch of local people swimming and great food. The boat driver told me that I could either return to Rio San Juan / Laguna Grigri in the boat or stay at the beach and return on my own by public transportation. He said I could take a motoconcho back to the guagua station in Caleton and return to Rio San Juan, or go straight to Gaspar Hernandez, Cabarete, Sosua or Puerto Plata. I decided to stay in the beach for 2-3 hours while and enjoyed a terrific massage at the beach and after that a cotorra (parrot) fish with tostones and salad. At about 4 pm, I decided to return because I did not want to be in the middle of nowhere at night time. I took a 5 minutes motoconcho to the guagua station near playa Caleton. From there, the guagua was going straight to Cabarete, Sosua, and Puerto Plata. I was back in Cabarete at about 5 pm, after enjoying the fun trip, great food, and massage, just ready for the evening Chica activities in Cabarete and Sosua.The lagoon in Rio San Juan is beautiful and the small beaches on the other side of it about 500 meters away are literally deserted and void of tourists. Its a nice break from the hustle of Sosua beach as you mention, nice report.
Member #4398
09-08-14, 03:51
You are right Surfer500. That short trip was a nice break from the Sosua hasle and beautiful lagoon and beaches nearby. But also, you are not yet away from being husled if you are not alert and if you smell or look like a gringo. The guy driving the boat (Captain Marabilla was his name) in Laguna Gri Grid tried to hustle me with the price for the boat ride as he asked for the gringo price of 1000 pesos. I only paid 500 because he saw I was walking away. Still he over charge me 100 pesos (2.5 dollars) as the locals get charged 400 pesos for the boat ride. But that trip was not that bad after all and I highly recommend that boat ride it for a day trip.
The lagoon in Rio San Juan is beautiful and the small beaches on the other side of it about 500 meters away are literally deserted and void of tourists. Its a nice break from the hustle of Sosua beach as you mention, nice report.
Member #4398
09-08-14, 05:01
According to this article, some politicians are trying to get rid of prostitution in Sosua and Cabarete or to move it to some other location. Good luck with that! I grew up in the DR and lived there till I was 20, then I moved to the USA. That was 25 years ago. Back 25 years ago, and when I was living in Santiago, Sosua was known as the place to go for prostitution. This has grown almost every year (except for this year that they closed a lot of sex massage places and some bars that were also brothels). But still, I don't think they will be able to get rid of prostitution because that sex tourism is already the backbone of that city's economy and prostitution is part of the culture make up of that town. As for ending it in Cabarete, that is also going to be difficult if not impossible:
http://www.sosuanews.com/mobi.php?id=3815&article=1
Just wanted to share a cool route for other things to do during the day while staying in Sosua or Cabarete and explore other towns instead of hanging out lazily in your hotel during the day. This was not a mongering activity and was more to try something different and check the transportation systme. This was last month in August 2014 while I was staying in both Cabarete and Sosua. I recommend this for the day only and not at night time because the transportation at night changes completely and the night is a completely different animal in the DR. I took a carrito (shared taxi) or guagua from the avenida principal in Cabarete accross from the big supermarket Janet's at about 9 am. The carrito or guagua can also be taken accross the Texaco gas station locate in Sosua. The carrito goes to the town of Gaspar Hernandez (about 25 Kilometers) and from there another carrito to Rio San Juan (another 27 km). This is super cheap, don't remember, but less than 2 dollars to Gaspar Hernandez and less than 2 to Rio San Juan. If you take a carrito and not a guagua (there is a guagua that goes all the way to Rio San Juan but I did not see any so I took a Carrito), you have to tell the driver to drop you off in Gaspar Hernandez at a stop where you could catch another carrito or Guagua to Rio San Juan. Those guaguas and carritos drive super fast and are filled with people to more than capacity. If you don't like being in a car packed like a sardine, this is not for you. From Gaspar Hernandez, you take another carrito or Guagua towards Rio San Juan. You ask the driver to drop you off at the Laguna Gri Gri stop. I found out that from there you can continue taking more Guaguas or Carritos to go to the big town of Nagua and from Nagua to the town of Samana / las terrenas. But to go directly to Samana / Terrenas is best to go express since there is big express guagua that leaves from sosua and Cabarete at about 630 am and 7 am. I decided to stop at the Laguna Gri gri stop in Rio San Juan and from there, I had to walk five minutes to the gri gri lake. At the laguna gri gri, I noticed some boats that were touring inside the lake for 1-2 hours tours. I saw a boat that was about ready to leave and was full of Asian tourists (I found that some of those Asian people spoke English and the majority were residing in USA, California). In any case, I asked the boat driver how much it was for the boat ride and where was the boat heading to. He said the boat was going around the lake, a bit inside the ocean, for an hour or 2 and making a stops inside la Cueva de golondrinas (a cave with some black birds), la piscina de Bermudez, and Playa Caleton. He said there was great food at Playa Caleton and that was enough to convince me. He tried to give me the gringo treatment and said it was 1000 pesos or 25 dollars. I said thanks but it was too expensive and then I began to walk away then he lowered the price to 500 pesos. I agreed and jumped inside the boat. I found out later that I could have given him 400 pesos instead of the 500 and that should have been fine because I heard his boss asking him how much I paid and he told the boss that I only paid only 400 so that he could get the 100 or $2.5 dollar difference for himself. In any case, it was great boat trip with the bunch of Asian tourist. The stop was made at the Cueva de Golondrinas and then at the Piscina de Bermudez which is just a nice beach that looks like a pool and where the tourists got off to swim. After that the boat made a final stop at the Playa Caleton. Playa Caleton is aa pretty good beach and secluded beach with a bunch of local people swimming and great food. The boat driver told me that I could either return to Rio San Juan / Laguna Grigri in the boat or stay at the beach and return on my own by public transportation. He said I could take a motoconcho back to the guagua station in Caleton and return to Rio San Juan, or go straight to Gaspar Hernandez, Cabarete, Sosua or Puerto Plata. I decided to stay in the beach for 2-3 hours while and enjoyed a terrific massage at the beach and after that a cotorra (parrot) fish with tostones and salad. At about 4 pm, I decided to return because I did not want to be in the middle of nowhere at night time. I took a 5 minutes motoconcho to the guagua station near playa Caleton. From there, the guagua was going straight to Cabarete, Sosua, and Puerto Plata. I was back in Cabarete at about 5 pm, after enjoying the fun trip, great food, and massage, just ready for the evening Chica activities in Cabarete and Sosua.After reading your post, I went to Cabarete Reports to read more.
Good info!
Thanks.
You are right Surfer500. That short trip was a nice break from the Sosua hasle and beautiful lagoon and beaches nearby. But also, you are not yet away from being husled if you are not alert and if you smell or look like a gringo. The guy driving the boat (Captain Marabilla was his name) in Laguna Gri Grid tried to hustle me with the price for the boat ride as he asked for the gringo price of 1000 pesos. I only paid 500 because he saw I was walking away. Still he over charge me 100 pesos (2.5 dollars) as the locals get charged 400 pesos for the boat ride. But that trip was not that bad after all and I highly recommend that boat ride it for a day trip.They gave me a quote of 1,000 pesos as well and I laughed at them and told them good luck.
According to this article, some politicians are trying to get rid of prostitution in Sosua and Cabarete or to move it to some other location. Good luck with that! I grew up in the DR and livedthere till I was 20, then I moved to the USA. That was 25 years ago. Back 25 years ago, and when I was living in Santiago, Sosua was known as the place to go for prostitution. This has grown almost every year (except for this year that they closed a lot of sex massage places and some bars that were also brothels). But still, I don't think they will be able to get rid of prostitution because that sex tourism is already the backbone of that city's economy and prostitution is part of the culture make up of that town. As for ending it in Cabarete, that is also going to be difficult if not impossible:
http://www.sosuanews.com/mobi.php?id=3815&article=1The reality here is that the real estate broker who spoke seems to have the majority of the listings in Sosua and wants the place "cleaned up" so he can sell more property. The real working girl here is him from my perspective.
they gave me a quote of 1,000 pesos as well and i laughed at them and told them good luck.that's the right attitude surfer. don't be intimidated on their turf.
a couple years ago i was at cayo levantado, an island off samana, at an all inclusive hotel for a family re-union. after a few days with no action i asked our breakfast server (married) about the town, bars etc. she said she lives there and would be happy to show me around, presumably with her husband / boyfriend. she gave me her number. so now i had an half assed plan.
but later that day i saw the hotel service boat leaving the hotel dock, on a whim, i asked if i could catch a ride with the changing shift workers. the guy asked the skipper and after a brief conversation, he waved me on. shorts tshirt and sandals and my bank card was all i had, and the phone number.
when we got to the town dock, the taxi drivers were in my face. i waved them off, i said no, i want to walk and a smoke. i took off as though i knew where i was going, and i could see the main area of town would be about 15 minutes away. when i got to the main avenue, i saw two older taxi drivers chatting and they barely looked my way. one looked ok, so i approached him. "bar, musica?" or something like that, my spanish is very limited. he smiled a big smile and i got in. we drove passed the 3 main bars and he stopped. now for the next part of my plan. "cajero automatic, scotiabank?" he points across the street. bingo.
so i go in to this big bar with an open dance floor, some chicas and no gringos. i ask my driver if he wants to come in for a beer. he's all over it and order the super size. he knows the folks there and we are chatting to "his cousin" the barrista chica like it's old home week. chicas are coming up and smiling curious, and i'm in heaven. they get me on the dance floor until i'm pooped, and i ask louis the taxi if there are rooms nearby. i give him $40 dollars and he comes back with change and a key. we leave the bar and go around the corner to see the room. over a store, one flight up. no air, but a fan. looks good so back to the party.
by that time our enterprising taxi has called his real cousin and her daughter, and of course i buy the beer. i ask about his taxi, but he say's he's finished for the day. more beer. this young chica has been eying me since i got in, and had me dancing a couple of times, and i felt comfortable with her, so eventually i asked her to come back to the room. she said si, but indicated she was hungry, so we went next door to the chicken shop and she ordered her plate. adios luis, but he insisted he'd take me back to the dock in the morning. good luck with that one!
well she gave me a good time, and left, then came back to the room around 4 am (wtf?) for more, but she wanted more money, so i said no, and told her i'd see her later.
well, i left the room about 7 am and with a hangover and headed to the dock, 15 minutes away looking for coffee which i couldn't find. a car pulls up, it's luis! there is a god!. he takes me for coffee then takes me to the hotel service boat, and i give him a propina. jump on the boat, and except for a little smiling hassle with security at the hotel dock, i'm sitting with the family for breakfast at 9 am.
so, what did you do last night? my niece asks me.
nothing much, i answer.
my waitress gives me the look. she'd heard about my little trip.
i checked my atm receipts, not much over a hundred bucks for the night.
Mr Enternational
09-09-14, 14:23
That's the right attitude Surfer. Don't be intimidated on their turf.Unless it is by a two-bit hooker who wants to up the price on you or call the police after the deed is done.
Unless it is by a two-bit hooker who wants to up the price on you or call the police after the deed is done. Not the first time that's happened to a guy sport fucking two-bit putas in Sosua.
But we live and learn, and move on.
Camaro1257
09-09-14, 20:30
That's the right attitude Surfer. Don't be intimidated on their turf.
A couple years ago I was at Cayo Levantado, an island off Samana, at an all inclusive hotel for a family re-union. After a few days with no action I asked our breakfast server (married) about the town, bars etc. She said she lives there and would be happy to show me around, presumably with her husband / boyfriend. She gave me her number. So now I had an half assed plan.
Thanks for the anecdote. I wish there was more written on Samana I'd love to go next year.
Thanks for the anecdote. I wish there was more written on Samana I'd love to go next year.I know you get around Surfer, so I was just endorsing that.
Truth is Mr. Gogo is always telling the guys to broaden their horizons beyond Sosua, and I totally agree with that. I learned a lot from him.
The only difference of opinion I may have with him is that I still believe Sosua is a mongers paradise, especially fot a newbie like I was, who doesn't yet know his way around.
(And doesn't, like Mr E, have a celebrity selfie in his wallet to get him out of a jam with the cops, I had to pay an extra 200 pesos, to make my last rare misjudgement go away).
What's that? About $6 bucks?
Camaro1257
09-10-14, 01:33
I know you get around Surfer, so I was just endorsing that.
Truth is Mr. Gogo is always telling the guys to broaden their horizons beyond Sosua, and I totally agree with that. I learned a lot from him.
The only difference of opinion I may have with him is that I still believe Sosua is a mongers paradise, especially fot a newbie like I was, who doesn't yet know his way around.
Soy Camaro quien es Surfer why Mr. Gogo? LOL!
Soy Camaro quien es Surfer why Mr. Gogo? LOL!I'm Surfer. Yo soy Surfer!
I'm Surfer. Yo soy Surfer!Por supuesto que son!
Lo siento, pero me estoy haciendo viejo.
Por supuesto que son!
Lo siento, pero me estoy haciendo viejo.Tengo tablas para montar las olas. I have boards to ride the waves. Why soy viejo tambien. And I'm old as well!
ForceSteeler
09-11-14, 03:37
Any boots on the ground? Any status updates I'm heading to Sosua in October.
This is my first ever trip report of any sort, but I felt inclined to do this report because I met a lot of fantastic people in Sosua and both wanted to share who they were and give tips to anyone looking to go. This was our first trip to the DR. Apologies for the stream-of-consciousness style of writing.
Let me begin by saying I have traveled around the world alone to many different places and the first thing you need to do is keep your expectations in check. You also need to constantly have your guard up for scams and hustlers. This is a normal thing and it doesn't matter where you are really. With all that said, my friend and I lucked out our entire trip as good people offered to help us all along the way.
A friend and I land in Santiago. We speak zero spanish. Lucky for us we met an awesome girl on our flight from Miami. Having chatted a bit on the plane, when we arrived she offered to take us to the bus station for free. Carib busses are the way to go. I cannot remember the exact cost but it was negligible for the 2 hour trip to Sosua / Cabarete. Maybe 10 dollars.
We stayed in Perla Marina, this is an expat residential community almost exactly in between Sosua and Cabarete, about a 5-10 minute drive each way. We found our condo through AirBnb, please message me for a recommendation. This is a perfect place to stay if you want privacy. The area has two security checkpoints and guests are required to leave their IDs at the gates. Countless armed guards patrol the grounds. If you want to avoid the hustle and bustle of the "city" and prefer peace and quiet. This is the place. You have your own private beach with fantastic views to take the ladies out to if you wish.
Transportation I have one name for you. Elvis Diaz - 1-829-810-9999.
In the states, I work in the ghetto and have been around many many different types of people. I am always confident in my ability to judge character at face value. This was a good guy. We ended up spending the entire week with him. He took us to 27 waterfalls in Puerta Plata, Monkey Jungle, etc. We met his entire family, went to his house, he found us great cheap dominican places to eat, got us discounts everywhere we went. I highly recommend him. Find a driver you can trust! They are so useful! Chatting with a chick on whatsapp and need a driver to go pick her up and bring her to you for some TLN (all nighter)? Call Elvis, 500 pesos. Trip to Puerta Plata for 27 waterfalls? Call Elvis, 75 USD and he will even do the excursion with you.
The pic with the two guys is Elvis and I. Call Elvis. Trust me. A lot of drivers will scam you or try to get more money out of you, offering you women, deals, etc. Elvis is a stand-up guy. We randomly met some expats who work there and they actually knew him and vouched for him. We met his entire family. Great great guy, I'm really doing this review because guys like him deserve the business.
Tell him "El Chino" sent you, and he will take good care of you.
Now on to Sosua. We spent an entire week in the DR. I pipelined a handful of women before I came on badoo / tagged, but ended up not messaging any of them while I was there. Why? There are too many damn women! As far as tourists, the "strip" is relatively dead on the weekdays, but pretty packed on the weekends. The women are there all days of the week. With that said, we had both good experience and bad, but definitely more good.
Good experience Beautiful, beautiful women everywhere. The very first night, Wednesday night, no Spanish, we paid a random driver 1000 pesos to show us around and be a translator. We went to Rumbas and there was probably a 20 to 1 men to women ratio. He scored us two beautiful women for 2,000 pesos. I have a picture of the first one. Chick with white patterned pants on the couch. I spent 2 nights with her. The second night she didn't specify how much, said I could give whatever. I gave her 3 k because well I'm a nice guy. We did a lot of hanging out, listening to music. Total GFE experience both in bed and out.
Bad experience On a taxi ride back from Sosua one day, there was a girl in the cab (lots of cab sharing there.) My friend small talked with her, she said her father was a cop in NYC but that was an obvious lie. She spoke pretty good English, and my friend negotiated 1 k for a quickie. The taxi dropped us all off. Great looking girl, I don't have a pic.
We're back in our place, I jump on my computer while he does his business. About 10 minutes later, he comes out panicked telling me to hold his money. This chica stopped in the middle of intercourse and demanded more money!! He pleads with her while she refuses to leave. I'm listening to all this while on my computer thinking, WHY the fuck are you pleading with this * After about 2 minutes of listening to my friend beg, He pleads with me to help him out, I had enough. I get up. Look at my friend. Say in a very aggressive manner, "Do you want me to choke this * " I look at her and start looking pretty mean, going off, telling her that she need to get the fuck out of my face and get the fuck out of the house before I make her get out. After about a minute of yelling, she's like ok ok, I'm leaving. She leaves, threatens police action, he gives her 1 k for her troubles. I say fuck you, go on your merry way.
Moral of the story don't let these bitches run you. You run them. Man the fuck up.
Good experience The most beautiful woman I saw there. The girl in the blue dress and close up face shot. 1500 for 1 hour. 4 k for TLN. She was worth it. This a girl that could fetch 500-700 in Vegas easy. I have her number, shit I have all of their numbers. Let me know if you need them. Our game-plan after the first day was hang out at Rumbas, gather their numbers, then call them after 12 AM. This is about the time stuff starts dying down, you can call them for their last trick of the night and get a really good deal on TLN. There is also a German Bar next to Classica that rents out rooms for about 400 pesos, if you want to do the quickie while there.
We only had one bad experience the entire time there. Did a lot of outdoor activities and fucked beautiful women at night. DR is a fantastic place. It might not be as packed as it used to be but that is a good thing. Less competition and you can be picky! A lot of these girls probably don't even turn a trick every night.
Tips for the first time traveler
1. Bring a throwaway phone that can text, buy a Orange Sim there. I paid about 20 USD for a phone and Sim at "Orange. " You will need the phone for various things- calling drivers, meeting up women, chatting with women.
2. Google translate.
3. Elvis Diaz, the best guy in DR, English speaker, will take care of you.
4. Man the fuck up.
5. Be paranoid, hide your stuff.
6. Do not carry a lot of cash, have pants with zips. I withdrew 100 USD a day, and that was plenty for just about everything.
7. Negotiate, it's a buyers market. 1500 for 1 hr, 2 k for TLN if it's after 12.
Let me know if you need more details.
This is my first ever trip report of any sort, but I felt inclined to do this report because I met a lot of fantastic people in Sosua and both wanted to share who they were and give tips to anyone looking to go. This was our first trip to the DR. Apologies for the stream-of-consciousness style of writing.
Let me begin by saying I have traveled around the world alone to many different places and the first thing you need to do is keep your expectations in check. You also need to constantly have your guard up for scams and hustlers. This is a normal thing and it doesn't matter where you are really. With all that said, my friend and I lucked out our entire trip as good people offered to help us all along the way.
A friend and I land in Santiago. We speak zero spanish. Lucky for us we met an awesome girl on our flight from Miami. Having chatted a bit on the plane, when we arrived she offered to take us to the bus station for free. Carib busses are the way to go. I cannot remember the exact cost but it was negligible for the 2 hour trip to Sosua / Cabarete. Maybe 10 dollars.
We stayed in Perla Marina, this is an expat residential community almost exactly in between Sosua and Cabarete, about a 5-10 minute drive each way. We found our condo through AirBnb, please message me for a recommendation. This is a perfect place to stay if you want privacy. The area has two security checkpoints and guests are required to leave their IDs at the gates. Countless armed guards patrol the grounds. If you want to avoid the hustle and bustle of the "city" and prefer peace and quiet. This is the place. You have your own private beach with fantastic views to take the ladies out to if you wish.
Transportation I have one name for you. Elvis Diaz - 1-829-810-9999.
In the states, I work in the ghetto and have been around many many different types of people. I am always confident in my ability to judge character at face value. This was a good guy. We ended up spending the entire week with him. He took us to 27 waterfalls in Puerta Plata, Monkey Jungle, etc. We met his entire family, went to his house, he found us great cheap dominican places to eat, got us discounts everywhere we went. I highly recommend him. Find a driver you can trust! They are so useful! Chatting with a chick on whatsapp and need a driver to go pick her up and bring her to you for some TLN (all nighter)? Call Elvis, 500 pesos. Trip to Puerta Plata for 27 waterfalls? Call Elvis, 75 USD and he will even do the excursion with you.
The pic with the two guys is Elvis and I. Call Elvis. Trust me. A lot of drivers will scam you or try to get more money out of you, offering you women, deals, etc. Elvis is a stand-up guy. We randomly met some expats who work there and they actually knew him and vouched for him. We met his entire family. Great great guy, I'm really doing this review because guys like him deserve the business.
Tell him "El Chino" sent you, and he will take good care of you.
Now on to Sosua. We spent an entire week in the DR. I pipelined a handful of women before I came on badoo / tagged, but ended up not messaging any of them while I was there. Why? There are too many damn women! As far as tourists, the "strip" is relatively dead on the weekdays, but pretty packed on the weekends. The women are there all days of the week. With that said, we had both good experience and bad, but definitely more good.
Good experience Beautiful, beautiful women everywhere. The very first night, Wednesday night, no Spanish, we paid a random driver 1000 pesos to show us around and be a translator. We went to Rumbas and there was probably a 20 to 1 men to women ratio. He scored us two beautiful women for 2,000 pesos. I have a picture of the first one. Chick with white patterned pants on the couch. I spent 2 nights with her. The second night she didn't specify how much, said I could give whatever. I gave her 3 k because well I'm a nice guy. We did a lot of hanging out, listening to music. Total GFE experience both in bed and out.
Bad experience On a taxi ride back from Sosua one day, there was a girl in the cab (lots of cab sharing there.) My friend small talked with her, she said her father was a cop in NYC but that was an obvious lie. She spoke pretty good English, and my friend negotiated 1 k for a quickie. The taxi dropped us all off. Great looking girl, I don't have a pic.
We're back in our place, I jump on my computer while he does his business. About 10 minutes later, he comes out panicked telling me to hold his money. This chica stopped in the middle of intercourse and demanded more money!! He pleads with her while she refuses to leave. I'm listening to all this while on my computer thinking, WHY the fuck are you pleading with this * After about 2 minutes of listening to my friend beg, He pleads with me to help him out, I had enough. I get up. Look at my friend. Say in a very aggressive manner, "Do you want me to choke this * " I look at her and start looking pretty mean, going off, telling her that she need to get the fuck out of my face and get the fuck out of the house before I make her get out. After about a minute of yelling, she's like ok ok, I'm leaving. She leaves, threatens police action, he gives her 1 k for her troubles. I say fuck you, go on your merry way.
Moral of the story don't let these bitches run you. You run them. Man the fuck up.
Good experience The most beautiful woman I saw there. The girl in the blue dress and close up face shot. 1500 for 1 hour. 4 k for TLN. She was worth it. This a girl that could fetch 500-700 in Vegas easy. I have her number, shit I have all of their numbers. Let me know if you need them. Our game-plan after the first day was hang out at Rumbas, gather their numbers, then call them after 12 AM. This is about the time stuff starts dying down, you can call them for their last trick of the night and get a really good deal on TLN. There is also a German Bar next to Classica that rents out rooms for about 400 pesos, if you want to do the quickie while there.
We only had one bad experience the entire time there. Did a lot of outdoor activities and fucked beautiful women at night. DR is a fantastic place. It might not be as packed as it used to be but that is a good thing. Less competition and you can be picky! A lot of these girls probably don't even turn a trick every night.
Tips for the first time traveler
1. Bring a throwaway phone that can text, buy a Orange Sim there. I paid about 20 USD for a phone and Sim at "Orange. " You will need the phone for various things- calling drivers, meeting up women, chatting with women.
2. Google translate.
3. Elvis Diaz, the best guy in DR, English speaker, will take care of you.
4. Man the fuck up.
5. Be paranoid, hide your stuff.
6. Do not carry a lot of cash, have pants with zips. I withdrew 100 USD a day, and that was plenty for just about everything.
7. Negotiate, it's a buyers market. 1500 for 1 hr, 2 k for TLN if it's after 12.
Let me know if you need more details.Glad you popped your cherry! The chicas look nice. You paid 5000 peso for a chica for 2 nights. That's ok. You first paid 2000 then 3000 next day. She would have been happy with 1500 on a repeat. That's why she left it open. You rewarded her well because of performance. Good for both of you.
This is my first ever trip report of any sort, but I felt inclined to do this report because I met a lot of fantastic people in Sosua and both wanted to share who they were and give tips to anyone looking to go. This was our first trip to the DR. Apologies for the stream-of-consciousness style of writing.
.Your obviously are a seasoned traveler and it's refreshing to read such a nice report about your experience in Sosua.
This is my first ever trip report of any sort, but I felt inclined to do this report because I met a lot of fantastic people in Sosua and both wanted to share who they were and give tips to anyone looking to go. This was our first trip to the DR. Apologies for the stream-of-consciousness style of writing.
It is refreshing to see a TR in the "Sousa Reports" section.
Thank you for taking the time and writing a great TR!
When in the DR and you are driving be careful for the moto's. When you see a bunch of them parked together they will always be 1 with his front tire out past the other ones so a unsuspecting tourist will hit their tire and will have to pay them. Also when getting in your car to leave always check all the way around the car before pulling off or you might just hit something or someone you did not know was there.
I made a statement a while back about two stepping and until you replied about you and your friends doing that growing up I did not really know what it was. I did not mean any disrespect for your generation it was said out of ignorance to what two stepping really was.
First, it is a shame that no one has given Tomjackin the respect he deserves for taking his time to support us with a great report and pictures, that's what this forum should be about. Few guys do what he does.
As far as Wrx2005, I think he does take too much time over-evaluating situations, and he should have more fun while while on vacation. With that said I also think he is good about calling out some of the BS on this forum. He does give detailed and interesting daily reports on his activities while in the DR. They are honest (maybe he does have problems with girls standing him up) and factual (Sure he doesn't like being hustled). But how many guys give you the good and bad nowadays?
What I like about Wrx2005 is that he can match wits with guys who think they are the most intelligent guys on the board who never give trip reports or pictures. We have guys who have never given reports or pictures who have been on this board for ten years but claim to be experts. My life of travel and fun has been an open book, and so has WRX. Oldkool, Oakie and Tomjackin and others have room to vent because they give back.
Look, WRX is right, we have gotten soft and maybe its good that he stirs the pot because we have guys running to the WU every month, guys falling for the first chica that says "hola popi", and guys swear they have a girlfriend because they give her money. Sosua has become hardcore from the chicas to the street hustlers, we need a guy every now and then who can be hardcore from our side. Many Sosua vets have left Sosua because Sosua is a new man's game and the old heads have moved on to better spots. Everyones opinion is accepted here even if its something some don't want to hear.Thanks for your take. Mr G. Let me also add: A while back, I have tried to advise a few individuals to stop judging people strictly by message board posts alone. Because you will never know a persons true essence this way.
It is one of the reasons I have used the phrase that I can only think in one head. What that means is, whatever you perceive of anyone on this board, your contrived opinion is born from the picture you painted of that person, not reality. I have explained this so many times, and yet enough individuals fail to get it.
You were definitely on the right track when you mentioned on the positive, but I must say, will eventually fall short when it comes to assuming I take too much time analysing things, where from my perspective I consider myself a deep thinker, and a contributor who feels sharing what many others guys experience is useful and helpful. I never intended for anybody to take my style and twist it into "he has a problem with women" or "he doesn't enjoy himself, or his vacations because all he does is over analyze.
Imagine that? All of these conclusions and perceptions based on message board posts? Me, deep down I know better than to act like I really know how any of the guys here is as a person as an individual. But too many here are too absorbed in this forum, that they have taken what they see in words on a screen and developed a feeling and opinion of individuals. And cant seem to let go, or realize how ridiculous doing that is.
And recently, Surfer500 is claiming I'm making an ass of myself. Which is an example of the type of ignorance I'm talking about. Like I said before, this forum had turned into a little boys club. I mean guys oblivious to how deeply absorbed they are in judging individuals by words and posts.
But check this out. Things work out in mysterious ways. This very evening, I met OldKool in Rockys. He was sitting there talking to a friend of mine. In I walk, we introduce ourselves, and instantly have a pleasant conversation. Most of what we were talking about we were in accord, and shared similar experiences. Understood each others POV. Listening to OldKool, I heard things he said which reminded me of things he said in this forum. So I asked a few questions, and all of his answers confirmed this was Old Kool. We all talked, laughed and smiled, getting along the way many of the guys I meet do. No fucking different.
We kept talking and interacting. No issues whatsoever. Finally when he was about to leave so he could prepare for going out later, I asked him to sit down a few minutes more. I told him right there that we should stop getting on each other and see we don't have issues with each other. Old Kool knew almost instantly and said my handle "WRX?" I said yes that's me. From my perspective his reaction was, you seem like a cool guy. He didn't rattle off a bunch of insults or unsubstantiated assumptions which has been the norm here.
And now new commentary suggesting someone they have never met is making an ass of himself on a message board forum. Another example of an individual taking this forum a little to seriously, and trying to judge someone. Someone who doesn't seem to understand some people just have a different way of writing or expressing themselves. Or tend to enjoy focusing on certain things for a reason. Surely not for the purpose of being misjudged and vilified. Gentleman, I am no educator, but someone needs to draw the line on all of this stupidity, including my contribution for allowing myself to get caught up retaliating and against what? Words on a computer screen?
So all of you may think it's cool to be stuck on stupid imagining you think you know a persons character in this forum, or how they spend their vacations, that some dude is miserable and always complaining, let this be a brotherly wake up call to stop the ignorance today.
As of my usual contribution. If and when I have something interesting to report, I will offer up some input when I am inclined. If my input is appreciated by the esotoric few, then so be it. But to conclude, I thought Old Kool was a cool dude as well.
Mr Enternational
09-13-14, 11:23
Imagine that? All of these conclusions and perceptions based on message board posts? Me, deep down I know better than to act like I really know how any of the guys here is as a person as an individual. But too many here are too absorbed in this forum, that they have taken what they see in words on a screen and developed a feeling and opinion of individuals. And cant seem to let go, or realize how ridiculous doing that is.I have noticed that this same type of behavior holds for women on dating sites. That is why I don't put much into a profile. I'm like get to know me instead of judging me by a profile or a couple of emails that I have written to you. I can write anything on here that I think you want to read.
At Rockys, me, my buddy, OK and his chica were sitting at the same table. Were all talking, except for his chica. For the most part she was quiet. She responded mainly to OK when he stopped talking to us to turn his attention briefly to her. But she was not part of our conversation, and IMO did not appear to be sociable.
Apparently what I didn't know is OK had ordered some food. The chica was waiting for the food. The food eventually came. Her and OK started to dig in but he also was still engaging me and my buddy with conversation. Us talking sort of distracted OK, my buddy and myself from observing two hardcore chicas I know from the scene come into Rockys, go over to OK's chica, speak briefly and suddenly start reaching towards their plate and helping themselves.
Ok stopped talking briefly and realized what was happening. Because the chicas was going for the chicken pieces, to which there wasnt much since he was sharing the plate with his chica / date. Ok let them know, in a easy going manner that you just can't come in here and eat up all my food. One of the two chicas didn't get her hands on any of the chicken, but she gave him an earful, about how it was only chicken. She used the nen word, claiming he was an American nen word, and how she can cook the same thing blah blah blah. Ok took it all in stride, as both chicas walked out of Rockys. I would have acted the same way. Not get upset, just stop them from getting to my food. And I would have had to take the same abusive language that OK took. So what would make OK any different than anybody else in terms of how he got treated by some ingrate chica? No different.
After that one of us asked if his chica knew those women. I think she denied it at 1st, but it was obvious she either knew them, or was merely doing what some chicas do. Take advantage of a monger who is wining and dining a chica. And try to allow other chicas to eat or drink off of that mongers dime.
An interesting perspective.
If I were to judge OK strictly by his participation on these boards. I would say he was probably a very thoughtful person, and may go out on a limb to help a chica. Especially since he described in the past how poor many of these chicas are, and even mentioned that during the time we were together. And yet, those two barracudas did not get any more of that chicken from his plate. Nor did he offer to buy them their own plate since they must have been hungry. Why not buy them their own chicken? They fit the profile of poor low earning chicas right? Well they didn't get their own plate. They were allowed to leave angry and disappointed that they didn't get more.
From a posting perspective, incidents like this if it had happened to me, I would report them here as a way of exposing or reinforcing to guys certain traps or chica behavior to watch out for. Not too many guys here post like that or that type of information. I would consider myself in the game long enough. And surely I dont have to share anything. Especially for the ridicule and scorn that usually follows from a select few.
However, in typical fashion, I know for a fact, my doing so could be construed as WRX being subject to another scam by a chica. Let the church say AMEN! However, what I observed happen to OK would probably never be reported because details like that are not really important to him to share here. Just a typical day in Sosua. But when I do it, to some it is an eyesore. A character flaw. A waste of time. Some error in judgement. Something I did to provoke chicas to come buzzing around me. I hope you are paying attention OAKIE, Mr Temp (sp)?
But my point here is, everyone here has had something happen to them that could be considered a scam, an attempted scam or some slick move some chica tried to pull, or use an opportunity to take advantage. When these things happen that doesn't mean you are fucked up because some chica did it. OK may never feel the need or desire to report that simple incident. I would, because I find chica behavior interesting and worth mentioning. The chica that OK was with, once done eating she was ghost. So I suppose she wasnt really interested in being there any longer, except for the fact he had invited her to eat after they just had their session at his place.
Me personally, I am 40/60 when it comes to feeding chicas I just met AFTER a session. Once the session is done, I pay them and then they leave. I don't usually have a reason to take them out to eat, only for them to leave the moment their belly is full. I figure, she just got paid she can get her own meal somewhere, and probably spend a lot less.
My interest in offering perspectives on what I observe is basically this. I am a detail oriented individual. I pay attention. And I ASK FOR FEEDBACK and clarity before assuming unsubstantiated shit. A practice sorely lacking in this forum Thats why I was able to know that I was talking to OK, even though he didn't really know who he was talking to, until I revealed it to him. I'm sure he observed that I was asking him a few questions of him. I was learning who I was talking to. Again a practice here that is sorely lacking. But I am also an individual who has the MONGERS interest and welfare first and foremost as my concern.
I feel in the states or elsewhere in the world, MEN do not have enough support for their interests, concerns and motivations. And I have always been concerned for men that got railroaded, or abused by any system or social custom. Imagine that? And I have never been married, divorced and never personally been subject to going to court for child support. But I do feel for men and mens concerns, 1st and foremost. More so than worrying about women, and especially P4 P women.
Women every where yo go, have much of the support at their disposal. If they arent getting it from their families, they are getting it from individuals that will sell men down the tubes in a heartbeat just to get a whiff of some womans pussy. And that is mainly why my focus here and life in general, leans more towards supporting men, and the mongers perspective. Now if anyone was interested anything positive about chicas, women or things I enjoy about women,my vacations, my advice.....and anything I offered to help, that can be discussed too. Or one can just see it in my reports where I share the good times I had. But of course that hasnt got much bandwith here. Because some need reporting to be done a certain way in order for it to be acceptable to them.
I have noticed that this same type of behavior holds for women on dating sites. That is why I don't put much into a profile. I'm like get to know me instead of judging me by a profile or a couple of emails that I have written to you. I can write anything on here that I think you want to read.Excellent point Mr E. I also feel with dating websites, especially in the states, women get caught up in discriminating potential candidates because of superficial critierior. Like a woman will have an age preference that may eliminate a large section of her eligible dating pool just because she thinks a guy 10 to 12 yrs older is too old. But in reality, if she had the opportunity to interact with certain older men she would find that a 10 -12 yr age difference may not be as strong a requirement as they assumed.
For the most part even the most educated and intelligent individuals can be caught up in online buffoonery.
I spent one day in Sosua that felt like three days in any other place. I spent my week in SD mostly chilling. I had a great time but I needed some sport fucking before I went home. This is not for the weak. My sexy young thing needed to get home early so we were both up at 6 am on Friday morning. I pack my bags and head for Sosua on the 8 am bus. I get a couple of hours sleep on the bus and arrive at 12;30 at Rockies. I book one night at Sosua suites $65. The Suites are in a awesome location. After putting the bags away I hit the beach. I was surprised there was very little action on the beach. There were plenty of Haitian girls roaming the beach but not the more attractive ones. The strip was attracting babes much earlier then I have seen in the past. I met some guys sitting across from Rumbas at 2:30 pm. The talent was very good. The toughest thing about Sosua is being patient. My first day in Sosua is always stressful. How do I say no 20 to attractive women wanting to ride your dick for 30 bucks. I meet a mid 20's chica from SD. She said she had been in Sosua for 3 days and had not done much. Something about her worked for me so I invited her up to the room. She was concerned that I might want to video tape our session with a hidden camera. I have never done this but have given it thought. After I assured her that I was not in the movie business she began to give me the best blow in my 50 plus years. The bad news was this happened at about 5 pm. I am not sure there will be any juice at the end of the night.
The incident WRX mentions was a fly on a elephants ass to me. I was in Ricks to get some Ribs which they did not have. The young lady who wanted to eat my bird was an over the hill hooker gone to seed. 15 minutes after talking a little shit to me she almost came to blows with another street puta. She saw a chance get some free food and went for it. The young lady who I shared my meal with was very sweet to me. She offered me another session for 1000 pesos. In truth I figured there was no way she could match the blow job. If I was in SD I would have kept her around a bit longer. It had been a long day. I did a all nighter on Thurday with a sweet non pro who at the end of the day wanted to be paid like a pro. I am running on nervous energy. Sosua gives me all the motivation I need to keep going. I hit Rumbas at 7 pm. There are about 50 young ladies almost all are attractive in some way. Since I had just had a world class blow job I was just window shopping.
I go back to my room to rest my eyes around 9 pm. When my eyes open it is 1;30 am. I am like shit run to Classicos. Classicos closes at 3 am so I am good. 1:30 the place is packed. I could not move on the dance floor. Scores of attractive women. There were quite a few guys posing as gangsters. I don't care for this style but to each his own. Here I am in Classicos looking for my last session. I wanted something young and slim. I found her pretty fast. We get back to the room. She takes her clothes off and there are some battle scares on the body. She was young but had a lot of mileage. We get right down to business. We share an exotic smoke and she is very compliant. We played with my vibrater and she is loving it. She was not the sweet young thing I thought I was getting. She was a nasty pro and just what I needed to get my rocks off. She gave a great effort and got me off. I was not sure there was any more leche. She asked for the vibrater and because I was leaving was happy to oblige.
I ran into my first Sosua girl who I also used a toy on. She said she was 19 at time (I am not sure I think she is still 19) She still remembered me and the session. Two years on the strip does things to these girls. The seasoned pros have seen it all and do not play games. They have been lied to, abused and disrespected if you are dealing with one do not expect hearts and flowers.
Final observations. I saw scores if Haitian girls on the strip and it was sad. They are competing with DR girls and not winning enough. Sosua is still the bomb. One day in Sosua is like 3 days any where else.
SavePros321
09-14-14, 14:39
Sosua is still the bomb. One day in Sosua is like 3 days any where else.Good trip report OldKool. I enjoyed reading it.
How do I say no 20 to attractive women wanting to ride your dick for 30 bucks.Sounds like you need a wing man, Old Kool, or maybe several. I volunteer. I'll be there in January.
Good trip report OldKool. I enjoyed reading it.I too enjoyed your report! Clearly you are a man of means, and didn't mind sharing a meal with a young lady of lesser means. I like the way you roll.
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The incident WRX mentions was a fly on a elephants ass to me.OK Kool good report. Now tell us more what's your take on the non-pros and pros during your trip.
Would you say going the non-pro date route was worth the time you gave it preparing for your trip.
Your philosophy was stick to the semi and pro. Yet you scheduled a lot of non pros. Was this change up stra8.
I want to hear about the non-pro trying to get paid like a pro.
With recent reports of Armando being deported, I wonder how places like Clasicos, Merengue Bar, Victoria House and Platinum Gym will be affected.
With recent reports of Armando being deported, I wonder how places like Clasicos, Merengue Bar, Victoria House and Platinum Gym will be affected.Here is a report of Armando's detention. His wife also appeared on television defending him. Reportedly he flew back to Italy this morning, either voluntarily with an agreement never to return, or deported.
http://detrasdelrumor.com.do/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/5009-arrestan-en-el-palacio-de-justicia-de-puerto-plata-al-empresario-armando-casciati
KaneMyers718
09-14-14, 17:34
Just returned to Sosua from my last trip in March some things changed as everyone know D' Latins is closed and it's just Rumbas and Classicos, that's if you want to be in the middle of the action. I always read here that the chicas want crazy amount of money. Maybe it's me and my good luck but either I get the name your price type of girls or the baby when you leave (because I going to rack up your pussy tab) kinda girls. So I always hit them with the 1,500, I feel that's fair. What I find is strange is that they always want to spend the night. No all the time but most. I suppose I'm not a hit it and quit it type. I must admit my boy say I cup cake with these chicas. I think of it more as selling a pipe dream. Now my little time of talking. Well my Spanish is worth a damn, but good enough to close the deal. That little bit of showing an interest goes a long way. Almost free pussy. Well not completely free but damn near. I definitely believe it's not because of my good looks. But that I treat them like I'm going to take the away and get them a Visa. My boy laughs at me. But I'm on day 3 and I haven't spent more than $200, and I change chicas like I change socks. The challenge is not getting seen by other chicas. Then I'm sure the pussy tax will kick in.
OK things to have being that I'm a newbie myself. $1000 usc of play around money. A $20 throw away cell phone you can get at claro or orange. That little shit comes in handy. Always change money in the street you get the best rate. The rate is $43.60RD and I got it for $42.70 which isn't that bad.
It's only my 3rd day I'm sure I have a lot to report especially when my other boy arrives 2 morrow. It's his 1st time and he will lose his mind.
If any of you Vets are on the ground and want to guide a newbie in the right direction hit me up, Sousa does get a little old after day 3. I'm ready to branch out and hit up another city. Well I'm not that bold yet.
Until next time. More to come.
With recent reports of Armando being deported, I wonder how places like Clasicos, Merengue Bar, Victoria House and Platinum Gym will be affected.Could somebody tell me and keep in touch on what is really going on in Sosua. I would like to know what bars are open and what the scene this W / E was really like. I am going there next month and would like as much info as I can get. I know this deportation is not good, but I would like to know what are the effects on PC.
I have a strong taste for GFE. I do not dtty hard core putas. Having some one who is like a date and fucks your brains out is the best of both worlds. I enjoy the for play of meeting prepping a non pro but there are issues. I deal with girls who understand I am not looking for a wife. The little sister was all about giving me her body but when done she wanted cash for her bills. I gave her some gifts and was prepared to give her some cash but she wanted more. I wanted to give her 4 k pesos and she wanted 6 k. We settled on 5 k. She was a pleasure to be with but her persistence for more money left a bad taste in my mouth. In retrospect I could have done with out the non pros. Semi pros can be great G FE when made to feel comfortable. Sosua has some girls who are very fresh. The Rumba girls were often new to Sosua. To answer your question I think less time on the non pros and more selective sport fucking is the answer. What I mean by that is there are fresh girls who come to Sosua every week. Taking the time to talk to them can pay dividends. The lady I shared my meal with was pleasant to be around as I travel alone. She was not a bad looking lady but in Sosua there so many lookers women we go crazy for at home we ignored in Sosua. She was willing to spend the night for 1000 pesos but I was in beast mode and could not make time for her. I paid her 1500 for our earlier session. Most girls open at 2000 pesos but seem very happy for 1500. Even in Sosua when you find a winner keep her a while it can get better. I was there one day and could not be as patient as I would like. The weekend in Sosua is just crazy. I was overwhelmed with the number of girls on the street. I csn not wait to go back.
OK Kool good report. Now tell us more what's your take on the non-pros and pros during your trip.
Would you say going the non-pro date route was worth the time you gave it preparing for your trip.
Your philosophy was stick to the semi and pro. Yet you scheduled a lot of non pros. Was this change up stra8.
I want to hear about the non-pro trying to get paid like a pro.
With recent reports of Armando being deported, I wonder how places like Clasicos, Merengue Bar, Victoria House and Platinum Gym will be affected.That's big news. Armando was a force on the north coast. He owns hotels, pharmacies. Night clubs Etc. Wow!
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-14-14, 20:08
I spent one day in Sosua that felt like three days in any other place. I spent my week in SD mostly
chilling. I had a great time but I needed some sport fucking before I went home. This is not for the weak. My sexy young thing needed to get home early so we were both up at 6 am on Friday morning. I pack my bags and head for Sosua on the 8 am bus. I get a couple of hours sleep on the bus and arrive at 12;30 at Rockies. I book one night at Sosua suites $65. The Suites are in a awesome location. After putting the bags away I hit the beach. I was surprised there was very little action on the beach. There were plenty of Haitian girls roaming the beach but not the more attractive ones. The strip was attracting babes much earlier then I have seen in the past. I met some guys sitting across from Rumbas at 2:30 pm. The talent was very good. The toughest thing about Sosua is being patient. My first day in Sosua is always stressful. How do I say no 20 to attractive women wanting to ride your dick for 30 bucks. I meet a mid 20's chica from SD. She said she had been in Sosua for 3 days and had not done much. Something about her worked for me so I invited her up to the room. She was concerned that I might want to video tape our session with a hidden camera. I have never done this but have given it thought. After I assured her that I was not in the movie business she began to give me the best blow in my 50 plus years. The bad news was this happened at about 5 pm. I am not sure there will be any juice at the end of the
Final observations. I saw scores if Haitian girls on the strip and it was sad. They are competing with DR girls and not winning enough. Sosua is still the bomb. One day in Sosua is like 3 days any where else.I keep missing oldkool and grown man by days! Been here 24 hours and have a few more days to go. I'll post a more detailed TR later, sucks typing on a phone. You can definitely tell that things have changed, though. From the gaping hole of activity that was once the'latins, to the live band playing music down in front of the "restaurant row" end of PC with the restaurant tables out in the middle of the street. Chica activity is different too. Details in the next post on my laptop.
Just returned to Sosua from my last trip in March some things changed as everyone know D' Latins is closed and it's just Rumbas and Classicos, that's if you want to be in the middle of the action. I always read here that the chicas want crazy amount of money. Maybe it's me and my good luck but either I get the name your price type of girls or the baby when you leave (because I going to rack up your pussy tab) kinda girls. So I always hit them with the 1,500, I feel that's fair. What I find is strange is that they always want to spend the night. No all the time but most. I suppose I'm not a hit it and quit it type. I must admit my boy say I cup cake with these chicas. I think of it more as selling a pipe dream. Now my little time of talking. Well my Spanish is worth a damn, but good enough to close the deal. That little bit of showing an interest goes a long way. Almost free pussy. Well not completely free but damn near. I definitely believe it's not because of my good looks. But that I treat them like I'm going to take the away and get them a Visa. My boy laughs at me. But I'm on day 3 and I haven't spent more than $200, and I change chicas like I change socks. The challenge is not getting seen by other chicas. Then I'm sure the pussy tax will kick in.
OK things to have being that I'm a newbie myself. $1000 usc of play around money. A $20 throw away cell phone you can get at claro or orange. That little shit comes in handy. Always change money in the street you get the best rate. The rate is $43.60RD and I got it for $42.70 which isn't that bad.
It's only my 3rd day I'm sure I have a lot to report especially when my other boy arrives 2 morrow. It's his 1st time and he will lose his mind.
If any of you Vets are on the ground and want to guide a newbie in the right direction hit me up, Sousa does get a little old after day 3. I'm ready to branch out and hit up another city. Well I'm not that bold yet.
Until next time. More to come.Its your new face good vibe KM that makes the chicas want to ride with you. Don't fool yourself playboy you are in Sosua. Those chicas know you are there to buy quick pussy. Don't worry about running into the chica from last night. Believe me she knows the game when she sees you just be cool. Because you have a cup cake Daddy vibe; the chicas like it and its make the business transaction and time more in your favor.
The leave Sosua call won't hit you until you get some knots in your belt and some balls! LOL Sound like your are about ready to grab them. I can't wait to hear your report.
I have a strong taste for GFE. I do not dtty hard core putas. Having some one who is like a date and fucks your brains out is the best of both worlds. I enjoy the for play of meeting prepping a non pro but there are issues. I deal with girls who understand I am not looking for a wife. The little sister was all about giving me her body but when done she wanted cash for her bills. I gave her some gifts and was prepared to give her some cash but she wanted more. I wanted to give her 4 k pesos and she wanted 6 k. We settled on 5 k. She was a pleasure to be with but her persistence for more money left a bad taste in my mouth. In retrospect I could have done with out the non pros. Semi pros can be great G FE when made to feel comfortable. Sosua has some girls who are very fresh. The Rumba girls were often new to Sosua. To answer your question I think less time on the non pros and more selective sport fucking is the answer. What I mean by that is there are fresh girls who come to Sosua every week. Taking the time to talk to them can pay dividends. The lady I shared my meal with was pleasant to be around as I travel alone. She was not a bad looking lady but in Sosua there so many lookers women we go crazy for at home we ignored in Sosua. She was willing to spend the night for 1000 pesos but I was in beast mode and could not make time for her. I paid her 1500 for our earlier session. Most girls open at 2000 pesos but seem very happy for 1500. Even in Sosua when you find a winner keep her a while it can get better. I was there one day and could not be as patient as I would like. The weekend in Sosua is just crazy. I was overwhelmed with the number of girls on the street. I csn not wait to go back.GTFOH. She wanted $150 after you gave here gifts. Was this for 1 day? SHitttttt! And I thought Surfer spoiled his non pros. She want super wages. I agree with you about the non pros. Newbies unless the have time on your hands to invest and / or allot of money; leave the non pro route alone on a short vacation. $125 is 5 chicas and 4 elpresidentes para mi.
I'll ask again since nobody seems to care about the single most important issue in this section? After the recent news listed below, what's the action been like on PC this W / E. Is there anyone who is there who can answer this?
She did give all she had and it was a whole day. I did not buy the gift specifically for her. It was my last night and a couple of the others did not show. Still it was a lot of money but the quality was excellent. The kissing and passion can not be matched with pros. I think I am moving on from her. Short time vacations requires a different approach. Non pros take time and sometimes more money.
GTFOH. She wanted $150 after you gave here gifts. Was this for 1 day? SHitttttt! And I thought Surfer spoiled his non pros. She want super wages. I agree with you about the non pros. Newbies unless the have time on your hands to invest and / or allot of money; leave the non pro route alone on a short vacation. $125 is 5 chicas and 4 elpresidentes para mi.
Tempoecorto
09-15-14, 01:02
I'll ask again since nobody seems to care about the single most important issue in this section? After the recent news listed below, what's the action been like on PC this W / E. Is there anyone who is there who can answer this?Single most important issue? Hahaha! Do not panic! Sosua existed before whoever this person is, was asked to leave and Sosua will exist when you get there in a month's time or six. You are going there for hookers and they will be aplenty, on the streets, on the beach and everywhere else.
SavePros321
09-15-14, 01:10
I'll ask again since nobody seems to care about the single most important issue in this section? After the recent news listed below, what's the action been like on PC this W / E. Is there anyone who is there who can answer this?Armando could have been seen as a roadblock to either:
A) Vice Mayor Willy wanting a total monopoly over Sosua's nightlife (as he gears up to run for Mayor).
B) The real estate folks who want to clean up Sosua and turn it into a family destination.
C) Neither A or B
D) All the above
While sitting across the street from Rumbas. A lady with an enfant in a stroller. , followed 5 minutes later by a gentleman with a 7 year old girl. They were white Dominicans and I think this was a form of protest. The Putas were thick in front of Rumbas and we guys were lined up on the other side of the street.
Camaro1257
09-15-14, 02:16
I'll ask again since nobody seems to care about the single most important issue in this section? After the recent news listed below, what's the action been like on PC this W / E. Is there anyone who is there who can answer this?No predictions just observations.
Mongers and chicas alike need to prepare for the likely transition of Sosua. Mongers should diversify locations and develop alternate means of contact and interacting with chicas and Sosua PFP chicas need to do the same. If we look at the actions of the Dominican government a pattern emerges. PFP establishments or personalities that were noticeably directly or indirectly connected to prostitution in Sosua have been adversely effected.
1. The owner of Passions was incarcerated for a period and his business was shut down.
2. Cuba-Dave the most vocal and visible advocate of Passions and CMP reportedly was asked to leave the Dominican Republic and not to return.
3. the'Latins one of Pedro Clisante's premier mongering venues was forced to close.
4. The owner of Rumba was briefly incarcerated and has left the Dominican Republic.
5. Most recently the primary promoter of the Victoria House pool parties was detained and extorted.
6. Armando Casciati the reported owner of Classicos has been arrested.
Peter of Passions, Bobby of Rumbas, Willie of the' Latin's and Armando of Classicos have become victims of the winds of change in Sosua. An observation of the evidence indicates that this thing of ours as we knew it in Sosua is on the decline and it is unknown what the future will hold. A reasonable observation based on the aforementioned pattern that the government's intention is to change the face of Sosua therefore those who are interested in Dominican Republic and Sosua specifically as a mongering destination need to be prepared to flow with the transition because those who are not prepared could get lost in the schuffle.
GTFOH. She wanted $150 after you gave here gifts. Was this for 1 day? SHitttttt! And I thought Surfer spoiled his non pros. She want super wages. I agree with you about the non pros. Newbies unless the have time on your hands to invest and / or allot of money; leave the non pro route alone on a short vacation. $125 is 5 chicas and 4 elpresidentes para mi.Spoiling non pros at $ 150 a day. Wow. Currently I'm down to only one non-pro and I give her 2200 pesos a day when she is with me. That includes a minimum of three pops a day and some days has been four and one day it was five. I don't know where all the leche comes from, but for being over sixty I'm still coming profusely with this very hot Haitian. The only thing that has topped her thus far in Sosua was the day it was breaking in Sosua Bay in May on a north swell and I had all the waves to myself.
2200 a day with you wining and dining is good 90% of the time. This lady is getting a reality check. She has a dream of being free from her very tough life. We gave each other what we wanted.
I had a semi pro who drains me.
Spoiling non pros at $ 150 a day. Wow. Currently I'm down to only one non-pro and I give her 2200 pesos a day when she is with me. That includes a minimum of three pops a day and some days has been four and one day it was five. I don't know where all the leche comes from, but for being over sixty I'm still coming profusely with this very hot Haitian. The only thing that has topped her thus far in Sosua was the day it was breaking in Sosua Bay in May on a north swell and I had all the waves to myself.
No predictions just observations.
Mongers and chicas alike need to prepare for the likely transition of Sosua. Mongers should diversify locations and develop alternate means of contact and interacting with chicas and Sosua PFP chicas need to do the same. If we look at the actions of the Dominican government a pattern emerges. PFP establishments or personalities that were noticeably directly or indirectly connected to prostitution in Sosua have been adversely effected.
1. The owner of Passions was incarcerated for a period and his business was shut down.
2. Cuba-Dave the most vocal and visible advocate of Passions and CMP reportedly was asked to leave the Dominican Republic and not to return.
3. the'Latins one of Pedro Clisante's premier mongering venues was forced to close.
4. The owner of Rumba was briefly incarcerated and has left the Dominican Republic.
5. Most recently the primary promoter of the Victoria House pool parties was detained and extorted.
6. Armando Casciati the reported owner of Classicos has been arrested.
Peter of Passions, Bobby of Rumbas, Willie of the' Latin's and Armando of Classicos have become victims of the winds of change in Sosua. An observation of the evidence indicates that this thing of ours as we knew it in Sosua is on the decline and it is unknown what the future will hold. A reasonable observation based on the aforementioned pattern that the government's intention is to change the face of Sosua therefore those who are interested in Dominican Republic and Sosua specifically as a mongering destination need to be prepared to flow with the transition because those who are not prepared could get lost in the schuffle.Has anyone who either lives in Sosua or visits frequently noticed a transition from detaining the proprietors to detaining and / or extorting the mongers themselves? I am wondering if this winter will bring widespread arrests of individual mongers in the bars and / or hotels. At what point is it unsafe to travel to Sosua for some fun?
Has anyone who either lives in Sosua or visits frequently noticed a transition from detaining the proprietors to detaining and / or extorting the mongers themselves? I am wondering if this winter will bring widespread arrests of individual mongers in the bars and / or hotels. At what point is it unsafe to travel to Sosua for some fun?That's a good question. I seem to remember reading some statements by the authorities that they were considering arresting the (foreign) clients of prostitutes (for taking advantage of the innocent Dominican chicas) . I was skeptical that this would ever come to fruition as prostitution is legal in the DR (and practiced widely by the Dominican men).
That's a good question. I seem to remember reading some statements by the authorities that they were considering arresting the (foreign) clients of prostitutes (for taking advantage of the innocent Dominican chicas) . I was skeptical that this would ever come to fruition as prostitution is legal in the DR (and practiced widely by the Dominican men).Didn't that happen about a year ago in SD? If they are fucking with Armondo, who was a fixture in the community for 25 years and a local buisiness man, then they can fuck with anyone. I also remember a time years ago where girls were arrested for walking around Sosua with gringos.
I'm not really concerned about Sosua because I have cultivated other spots in the DR, but I'm concerned about the investments that some of these buisiness men have made in Sosua. What happens to Sosua bay hotel now? That's a beautiful property. Peter invested a lot of money into his property before his fall as did Dlatins.
I remember Willy walking up to me and Mr E and saying he had just purchased Classicos that night. Then they close Dlatins and Classicos become hot. People don't understand that it would be easy to transform Sosua very rapidly into a family environment. Remember the cruise port begins taking visitors in December. A crackdown on the girls and gringos would travel fast on the internet. Mongers would be canceling trips. I remember years ago when Classicos would play rock and roll during the weekdays and hip hop on the weekends. Classicos would be mostly euro tourist couples during the weekdays and the young Newyorkers wouldn't roll in till the weekends. What if they changed the music at Classicos and rumbas to be more tourist friendly, would that kill a certain foreign traveling dynamic?
Let's wait and see what adjustments happen with the cruise terminal opening in December in Miamon. Will Sosua be busing in the cruise guests for day trips to the beach and structured tours? In closing I would say that Sosua died many years ago for me. I had so much fun in the old Sosua that I'm ashamed that one person had that much fun for so long in one place. It was a beautiful ride.
KaneMyers718
09-15-14, 16:43
It's funny how all these guys try to sell you viagra and cialis at these cambio stations but never have condoms or lubricant.
I had a bait and switch done on me last night. I'm not salty about it just a lesson learned. I'm sitting in Rumbas just chillin with the homies, no intention on getting my balls drained of all their leche. How ever some 30 something chica surprising struck my eye. Now I had to say no gracias like 20 times. She was cool brought me a President and asked me if I was hungry. Weird approach I thought. I said no I'm cool, I told her no mas leche en mis bolas, she laughed and she said she could help me with that problem. I said how? Her reply was simply a BBBJ, no pago. I was like bullshit. Si. She said. So as a horny as I am I took her on. Then she said if I don't nut no pay. If I nut I give her a propina. Ok I said. We go back to my room. Now ol girl was masterful with her head game. It was like she was sucking a golf ball thru a straw. Sucking the chrome off a bumber. I haven't had my 3rd leg sucked so good I wanted to tap out. I swear I thought only dust was in my ball sacks. I don't how she did it but she made me bust air. I was looking all over for that invisible leche. Never have I seen that shit happen. I gave her a high 5. And gave her $500RD propina. She looked at me and said no $2000. I'm like what? That's no propina that's a damn service charge. I was like nope. Then she started talking loud and standing in front of the door. This * just got me fucked up. Funny how when your not in your own country you let shit slide. I laughed and paid her to leave. I should of know better but damn. That lesson fucked up and felt good at the same damn time.
No predictions just observations.
2. Cuba-Dave the most vocal and visible advocate of Passions and CMP reportedly was asked to leave the Dominican Republic and not to return.
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5. 6. A reasonable observation based on the aforementioned pattern that the government's intention is to change the face of Sosua therefore those who are interested in Dominican Republic and Sosua specifically as a mongering destination need to be prepared to flow with the transition because those who are not prepared could get lost in the schuffle.Cuba Dave seemed G rated to me but look what happened to him. Word to the wise act right and be mindful of what you are doing. Don't flaunt around and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off. These women are someone's family member and you are FUCKING them
Cuba Dave seemed G rated to me but look what happened to him. Word to the wise act right and be mindful of what you are doing. Don't flaunt around and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off. These women are someone's family member and you are FUCKING themWe all do well to listen to this advise and should NOT forget we are visitors in another country.
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GUYS WE can not worry about the political waves in Sosua. First we can not control any of this. What we can do is enjoy the place to the fullest while it is there. The place is custom made for us. Women food and a beach.
Tempoecorto
09-15-14, 19:33
GUYS WE can not worry about the political waves in Sosua. First we can not control any of this. That is correct. Nonetheless, for the doom and gloom sayers, there was a recent report from a Cerebro, under cabarete. He is of Dominican origin who left the island 20 years back. He states that even in the past, that is at least 20 years back, Sosua was still well known. This is why, I think it is useless to worry about the demise of the place.
As long as the hobbyist knows how to behave publicly, and be discreet about something they cannot brag back home about, I cannot imagine anything is going to happen to him / them. Of course, it might be quite different for the NY kind of behavior. Finally, if you can, diversifying out of Sosua, is how you would manage your risk.
It's funny how all these guys try to sell you viagra and cialis at these cambio stations but never have condoms or lubricant.
I had a bait and switch done on me last night. I'm not salty about it just a lesson learned. I'm sitting in Rumbas just chillin with the homies, no intention on getting my balls drained of all their leche. How ever some 30 something chica surprising struck my eye. Now I had to say no gracias like 20 times. She was cool brought me a President and asked me if I was hungry. Weird approach I thought. I said no I'm cool, I told her no mas leche en mis bolas, she laughed and she said she could help me with that problem. I said how? Her reply was simply a BBBJ, no pago. I was like bullshit. Si. She said. So as a horny as I am I took her on. Then she said if I don't nut no pay. If I nut I give her a propina. Ok I said. We go back to my room. Now ol girl was masterful with her head game. It was like she was sucking a golf ball thru a straw. Sucking the chrome off a bumber. I haven't had my 3rd leg sucked so good I wanted to tap out. I swear I thought only dust was in my ball sacks. I don't how she did it but she made me bust air. I was looking all over for that invisible leche. Never have I seen that shit happen. I gave her a high 5. And gave her $500RD propina. She looked at me and said no $2000. I'm like what? That's no propina that's a damn service charge. I was like nope. Then she started talking loud and standing in front of the door. This * just got me fucked up. Funny how when your not in your own country you let shit slide. I laughed and paid her to leave. I should of know better but damn. That lesson fucked up and felt good at the same damn time.Now that's a game you have to love and hate. The beautiful of the hateful Sosua.
Cuba Dave seemed G rated to me but look what happened to him. Word to the wise act right and be mindful of what you are doing. Don't flaunt around and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off. These women are someone's family member and you are FUCKING themI make love LOL.
. People don't understand that it would be easy to transform Sosua very rapidly into a family environment. Remember the cruise port begins taking visitors in December. What? Lets see from a tourist perspective lets start with excessive noise coming from everywhere all day and night. Sidewalks that simulate rock climbing where I have seen many persons including myself fall. Traffic where there are no rules that are followed, and you feel like you are playing Frogger crossing the street. Motos selling dope and watching your every move. A beach filled with shacks selling crap. No good public restrooms for little Johnny when he craps his pants. The Dom rep govt extorting a tourist for any little accident or incident. Sousa beach is a dime a dozen beach. The girls and mongers are a problem some would say, but its only one problem.
They can surely chase people away and turn the place into a ghost town. Which in some respects I think they had already started doing. But transforming it easily into family environment that middle class America will go. No not so much.
Charles Pooter
09-15-14, 22:14
Sosua is a shithole. We only like it for the P4P and because it is less of a shithole than the rest of the DR (excluding a few places like Jarabacoa which are too remote for cruise passengers on a day outing and could not accept big enough numbers to make any difference to the economy).
You guys have no idea what most cruise passengers are like. They are modestly affluent, mostly 50+, and go on cruises because they want to be pampered and have everything served up on a plate. I cannot think of anything that Sosua can offer that other places cannot offer much better (apart from the P4 P chicas). No-one is going to want to take a few hours out of their expensively paid-for holiday time to visit that unexceptional shithole with at least an hour's trip each way past boring scenery.
Maybe they will arrange a few bus outings there at first, but once all the tourist reviews start getting posted with most people saying "not worth it, don't bother" the demand will soon dry up.
Once and for all the new cruise port has nothing to do with the crackdown in Sosua. If you have ever been on a cruse you would know that. Cruise ships do not bring tourists to stay in the places they visit. They dock for less than a day and then take all the tourists with to the next port of call. Some idiot propsed this idea and I can't beleive people still beleive it.
So what do you guys think they are going do with the cruise ship tourists? Let them stay in boring ass Miamon and sell them Brugal and mammaguannas? Think outside the box. I happen to think the ride from Puerto Plata is beautiful with its lush greenery and open sea views.
Look guys we really don't know but we will see soon if the cruise ship is going to incorporate other nearby areas into the equation.
I have been wrong many times before; I once stated Boca Chica would be the next hot spot for mongers, wrong there. I once stated Frannie was an alien working in a call center in India, completely wrong with that one. And I also stated a few years ago that Classicos closing was the final call for Sosua.
Member #4398
09-16-14, 01:58
Surfer500,
What is your secret for 3 to 5 times pops a day? Please share your secret he leche quickly refills. I'm impressed. It is something you eat, drink or do? I'm in my 40's and for me when I get 2 pops in a day, I am pretty much done or empty till the next day. I would like to know your secret.
Spoiling non pros at $ 150 a day. Wow. Currently I'm down to only one non-pro and I give her 2200 pesos a day when she is with me. That includes a minimum of three pops a day and some days has been four and one day it was five. I don't know where all the leche comes from, but for being over sixty I'm still coming profusely with this very hot Haitian. The only thing that has topped her thus far in Sosua was the day it was breaking in Sosua Bay in May on a north swell and I had all the waves to myself.
Surfer500,
What is your secret for 3 to 5 times pops a day? Please share your secret he leche quickly refills. I'm impressed. It is something you eat, drink or do? I'm in my 40's and for me when I get 2 pops in a day, I am pretty much done or empty till the next day. I would like to know your secret.Everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. I think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. Being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. You have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. Spacing out the leche events, I have a GF in Tijuana and I usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. Not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. Not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events.
6. The woman your with has to be a horn dog and orgasm more than you.
7. You need to be well rested and not sleep deprived.
8. You need to drink plenty of fluids.
I think in a nutshell it depends mostly on the woman your with and if you have chemistry together.
I couldn't imagine popping three to four times a day sport-fucking hoes off the Strip in Sosua but I know there's some young bucks like GrownMan that can but he's about 1/2 my age!
I'm sure other members will have some comments on all this as well.
everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. i think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. you have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. spacing out the leche events, i have a gf in tijuana and i usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events.
6. the woman your with has to be a horn dog and orgasm more than you.
7. you need to be well rested and not sleep deprived.
8. you need to drink plenty of fluids.
i think in a nutshell it depends mostly on the woman your with and if you have chemistry together.
i couldn't imagine popping three to four times a day sport-fucking hoes off the strip in sosua but i know there's some young bucks like grownman that can but he's about 1/2 my age!
i'm sure other members will have some comments on all this as well.and here i thought it was those tight ass speedos (with the pinch me writing on the back) that didn't let your balls breathe was your secret.
Member #4398
09-16-14, 04:15
Surfer500,
Thank you for the feedback. By looking at the numbers, I have been shooting my self on my own foot, and there is a lot that I could improve by following some of your advise. I have been good with #1 and #2, but deficient in the other numbers. During my last trip to DR in August 2014, I was probably 20-30 pounds overweight. I need to lose those extra pounds and work out more regularly. I did not drink much liquids except for a lot of Cervezas Presidente and Mojitos (unless these two count as liquid intake, just kidding). I did not get much sleep because I was always busy at night till 3 am trying to get chicas and then banging them after I found one I liked. Whenever I went to bed at 4 am or 5 am, I was up again after 3-4 hours of sleep max and could not sleep more during the day. If I want to improve my pops per day, I would definitely need to improve my sleep, increase considerably my liquid intake, reduce the alcohol intake (this is going to be hard cause I love beer and Mojitos), and cut the extra weight in my next mongering trip to DR or wherever I go. I will test all these in my first mongering trip to Colombia Medellin next month and would let you know it works out for me or not. My next trip to DR is next year.
Thank you again.
Everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. I think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. Being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. You have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. Spacing out the leche events, I have a GF in Tijuana and I usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. Not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. Not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events..
and here i thought it was those tight ass speedos (with the pinch me writing on the back) that didn't let your balls breathe was your secret.i forgot that one which was going to be number 9 on the leche management list!
Cuba Dave seemed G rated to me but look what happened to him. Word to the wise act right and be mindful of what you are doing. Don't flaunt around and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off. These women are someone's family member and you are FUCKING themKeeping a low profile is good advice for any mongering destination.
I am pushing the big 60 so pops are precious. Finding a babe you want to be with makes all the difference. My Sosua friend can consistently get 4 pops out of me. She seems to get as much out of the sex as me. Reading your prescription for success is exactly how I roll. Except I catch a buzz sometimes before activity. Sport fucking is a challenging physically and financially if you doing 3 plus sessions.
Everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. I think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. Being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. You have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. Spacing out the leche events, I have a GF in Tijuana and I usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. Not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. Not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events.
6. The woman your with has to be a horn dog and orgasm more than you.
7. You need to be well rested and not sleep deprived.
8. You need to drink plenty of fluids.
I think in a nutshell it depends mostly on the woman your with and if you have chemistry together.
I couldn't imagine popping three to four times a day sport-fucking hoes off the Strip in Sosua but I know there's some young bucks like GrownMan that can but he's about 1/2 my age!
I'm sure other members will have some comments on all this as well.
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