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Armando Casciati accused of promoting sex tourism.
Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito is reported to have instructed the deportation of all foreigners who are known promoters of the Dominican Republic as a sex tourism destination. A long time Sosua resident, Italian businessman and artist Armando Casciati was the next in line. As reported in Acento, he reached an agreement with Immigration Department officials and left the country on a voluntary basis on Sunday, 14 September 2014 with the commitment of never returning.
Legal system officials and Immigration inspectors detained him on Friday morning, 12 September 2014, after he was questioned by the Puerto Plata prosecutor Alba Nunez Pichardo.
As reported in Diario Libre, the Special Procurement against Illicit Trafficking in Persons and Migrants, under Judge Jonathan Baro Gutierez ordered the cancellation of Casciati's residency, followed by his deportation.
Casciati had lived in Sosua for over 20 years where he operated several businesses including the Sosua Bay, Sosua Bay Convention Center, a television station, and several bars allegedly dedicated to prostitution, including the Merengue Bar, the'Clasico and Club 59.
Cuba Dave seemed G rated to me but look what happened to him. Word to the wise act right and be mindful of what you are doing. Don't flaunt around and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off. Yeah, well, Cuba Dave promoted the hell out of Passions club without making any attempt to shield his identity and then when it was closed down he said that it was just a question of paying the right bribes to the corrupt DR authorities and normal service would be resumed shortly.
What could possibly go wrong?
He continues to take potshots at the DR authorities from a distance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQ5qEvikwE
Good info Surf! I definitly look for chemistry as well as physical attraction. I got to be able to have a conversation and get her laugh. I really want to.
Know what your workout is like. I always thought cardio was best for recharging the body for sex. I'm 46, I want be smashing till I'm 100.
Everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. I think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. Being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. You have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. Spacing out the leche events, I have a GF in Tijuana and I usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. Not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. Not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events.
6. The woman your with has to be a horn dog and orgasm more than you.
7. You need to be well rested and not sleep deprived.
8. You need to drink plenty of fluids.
I think in a nutshell it depends mostly on the woman your with and if you have chemistry together.
I couldn't imagine popping three to four times a day sport-fucking hoes off the Strip in Sosua but I know there's some young bucks like GrownMan that can but he's about 1/2 my age!
I'm sure other members will have some comments on all this as well.
Update! The cruise line will attempt a new pilot program that promotes muti-day excursions. Details in the Gogo forum.
Warthog2837
09-16-14, 15:43
Everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. I think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. Being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. You have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. Spacing out the leche events, I have a GF in Tijuana and I usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. Not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. Not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events.
6. The woman your with has to be a horn dog and orgasm more than you..The regimen probably works well, if you can handle it. My lifestyle is more like Cerebro's. I conditioned for a half-marathon this Summer, and most of the recipe for success was the same as Surfer's.
Everybody is different and the 5 day pop was only once, a few 4 day pops, but typically three a day. I think a lot of it has to do with the following in my case:
1. Being with the same woman that is hotter than hooker and turns you on.
2. You have to have chemistry with this woman.
3. Spacing out the leche events, I have a GF in Tijuana and I usually do her approximately every 8 hours apart on the weekends.
4. Not being overweight, you need to be in shape and workout regularly.
5. Not partaking in alcohol / drugs before the leche events.
6. The woman your with has to be a horn dog and orgasm more than you.
7. You need to be well rested and not sleep deprived.
8. You need to drink plenty of fluids.
I think in a nutshell it depends mostly on the woman your with and if you have chemistry together.
I couldn't imagine popping three to four times a day sport-fucking hoes off the Strip in Sosua but I know there's some young bucks like GrownMan that can but he's about 1/2 my age!
I'm sure other members will have some comments on all this as well.There is a very important item that has been omitted from this list of achieving many releases. Nutrition. Semen is primarily protein. A diet high in protein is crucial. Therefore, one has to eat lots of beef, pork, mutton, etc. A good beefy steak is a prelude to getting that chica to shout "Rrrrico, rrrrico". Think about it, a lion can mate up to 60 times a day!
There is a very important item that has been omitted from this list of achieving many releases. Nutrition. Semen is primarily protein. A diet high in protein is crucial. Therefore, one has to eat lots of beef, pork, mutton, etc. A good beefy steak is a prelude to getting that chica to shout "Rrrrico, rrrrico". Think about it, a lion can mate up to 60 times a day!I forget to include the protein juice supplements from muff diving chicas as an item on the list.
ForceSteeler
09-16-14, 19:04
Anybody know if DLatino is open or is Classico where all the action right now?
Yeah, well, Cuba Dave promoted the hell out of Passions club without making any attempt to shield his identity and then when it was closed down he said that it was just a question of paying the right bribes to the corrupt DR authorities and normal service would be resumed shortly.
What could possibly go wrong?
He continues to take potshots at the DR authorities from a distance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQ5qEvikwEGuy's learn from Cuba Dave of what not to do.
So what do you guys think they are going do with the cruise ship tourists? Let them stay in boring ass Miamon and sell them Brugal and mammaguannas? If you have ever been on a cruise that's exactly what they do with the cruise tourists. Basically all the activities are on the ship. Then when you arrive in port you can get off, take a few pictures, buy some souviners and say you have been in that country. As for multi-day stops I did not find your report but that would not seem logical. Since all the activities are on ship there is no reason for it. On some cruises they do have excurisions. (about 3 hrs.) But those are for planned activities. There is nothing to come to Sosua for and it's I doubt that there could be, except for the obvious. But then if some guys on the cruise know what Sosua is like and want action they could try to get to Sosua. So a cuise could help business. But nothing planned by the crise is likely to touch Sosua.
If you have ever been on a cruise that's exactly what they do with the cruise tourists. Basically all the activities are on the ship. Then when you arrive in port you can get off, take a few pictures, buy some souviners and say you have been in that country. As for multi-day stops I did not find your report but that would not seem logical. Since all the activities are on ship there is no reason for it. On some cruises they do have excurisions. (about 3 hrs.) But those are for planned activities. There is nothing to come to Sosua for and it's I doubt that there could be, except for the obvious. But then if some guys on the cruise know what Sosua is like and want action they could try to get to Sosua. So a cuise could help business. But nothing planned by the crise is likely to touch Sosua.I'm on delay so my posts take about a day to post. Here is the article I was waiting to post.
Not so crazy, stupid or ignorant as you might think.
They had planned to offer a cruise with port of call in Maimon, which will include shore excursions for the day or two (overnight stay of ship at port) and (catch this!) extended inland excursions in the country of several days with an option to return on either a scheduled ship for the port or air travel to their final destination.
Unlike stated in the article, passengers opting for that option must do so even before boarding the ship. They must arrange such things with the cruise sales agent.
This will be a depart from inland extended excursions that had either to be carried out prior to boarding the cruise ship or at the end of it, without an option to re-embark to another ship for return.
That's why this port complex is so ground breaking for the cruise line biz.
In order to circumvent policies in the USA That demand cruise passengers embark / return on the same port / ship as they took. The cruises aiming to offer such options will make use of Puerto Rico's own cruise policies. They do allow cruise ships to embark passengers in one port and end their trip at another port if elected.
The DR was selected to introduce this new format of cruise offerings, due to the diversity of options for travelers to select from. From staying a week in Ciudad Colonial and touring the oldest city in the new world, to river rafting, white sandy beaches in Punta Cana, etc.
In order to make this happen, the new four lane road from the new CN in Santiago to Puerto Plata will be taking shape.
A clean-up of Sosua / Puerto Plata is concurrent and undergoing.
As stated "passengers" travel plans for this must be done prior to embarking on the cruise. It will not be selective after the cruise ship departs on the trip and beyond. Unless the passenger decides to terminate their trip and catch the flight home of option, there will not be a catch the next ship on port to go home as described in the article.
First, the bottom line question.
Right now Sosua is still a mongers playground. Although a little quieter than times past, there are enough beautiful and inexpensive chicas to satisfy the hungriest appetite. The chicas ply their trade like nothing is happening, and are not at this time being hassled by the obvious police presence.
Second Sosua is a civic planning nightmare. Fully half the strip is closed down. The action is centered around the area between Classico and Rhumba. Although the area around Baileys is lively, particularly the bar across the street.
For me, it's pretty much the same because I hang with my regular and friends. I'm having a ball and maybe I'll post a TR when I get a better internet connection.
The word is still, "C'mon. Down" !
This new cruiseport policy can not be feasible. To start with Puerto Rico is a part of the US which creates a differnt customs situation. Also many people going to Puerto Rico have family there because the US has a large Puerto Rican population so they might want to stay. That is not true nearly as true of the DR. I doubt that this could be financially successful.
But still the principal reason for the crackdown in Sosua was that the scene in Sosua got unfortunate publicity that came to the attention of DR authorities. This cruiseport was planned long before this took place. People go on cruses to party on ship. The cruiseport is just a TRUCK STOP. In fact most people never get off the ship. Now with the opening of the cruiseport coming so close to the crackdown in Sosua it is easy to say there is a connection between the two. But I still think the notion is ridiculous. If this idea you talk about of extended cruise stays is true it's someones fantasy and can't work. They are not going to change the well established market for cruises. That would be as difficult as changing the market for trips to Sosua, which if this crackdown continues the DR authorities are soon going to realize.
This new cruise port policy can not be feasible. To start with Puerto Rico is a part of the US which creates a differnt customs situation. Also many people going to Puerto Rico have family there because the US has a large Puerto Rican population so they might want to stay. That is not true of the DR. I doubt that this could be financially successful.
But still the pricipal reason for the crackdown in Sosua was that the scene in Sosua got unfortunate publicity that came to the attention of DR authorities. This cruiseport was planned long before this took place. People go on cruses to party on ship. The cruiseport is just a TRUCK STOP. In fact most people never get off the ship. Now with the opening of the cruiseport coming so close to the crackdown in Sosua it is easy to say there is a connection between the two. But I still think the notion is ridiculous.One interesting dynamic that probably hasn't been considered is the Dominicans reputation for fucking up any positive situation because of greed and selfishness. It all sounds good but the Dominicans are sitting back licking their chops, waiting with their hands out. I'm not sure about a tourist wanting to spend a week in SD seeing the sites when it only takes half a day to do the tourist sites. What will they be doing the rest of the time?
The same goes for Sosua and Cabarette, it's only a half day stop at best. Santiago doesn't offer much for the tourist, same for Puerto Plata. Outside money is coming in and the Dominicans are saying"yes" to everything. For anyone who has been coming to the DR for years it's very interesting watching good business models fold because the Dominicans have found a new sucker. Never invest in the DR fellas.
This new cruiseport policy can not be feasible. To start with Puerto Rico is a part of the US which creates a differnt customs situation. Also many people going to Puerto Rico have family there because the US has a large Puerto Rican population so they might want to stay. That is not true nearly as true of the DR. I doubt that this could be financially successful.
But still the principal reason for the crackdown in Sosua was that the scene in Sosua got unfortunate publicity that came to the attention of DR authorities. This cruiseport was planned long before this took place. People go on cruses to party on ship. The cruiseport is just a TRUCK STOP. In fact most people never get off the ship. Now with the opening of the cruiseport coming so close to the crackdown in Sosua it is easy to say there is a connection between the two. But I still think the notion is ridiculous. If this idea you talk about of extended cruise stays is true it's someones fantasy and can't work. They are not going to change the well established market for cruises. That would be as difficult as changing the market for trips to Sosua, which if this crackdown continues the DR authorities are soon going to realize.I just looked up the Carnival site and they list no extended stay stops in Puerto Rico. I then called and they almost laughed at me when I asked about it.
Mr Enternational
09-17-14, 23:37
I just looked up the Carnival site and they list no extended stay stops in Puerto Rico. I then called and they almost laughed at me when I asked about it.You mean Puerto Plata no doubt?
Chief Justice
09-18-14, 00:34
One interesting dynamic that probably hasn't been considered is the Dominicans reputation for fucking up any positive situation because of greed and selfishness. It all sounds good but the Dominicans are sitting back licking their chops, waiting with their hands out. I'm not sure about a tourist wanting to spend a week in SD seeing the sites when it only takes half a day to do the tourist sites. What will they be doing the rest of the time?
The same goes for Sosua and Cabarette, it's only a half day stop at best. Santiago doesn't offer much for the tourist, same for Puerto Plata. Outside money is coming in and the Dominicans are saying"yes" to everything. For anyone who has been coming to the DR for years it's very interesting watching good business models fold because the Dominicans have found a new sucker. Never invest in the DR fellas.Didn't foreign investors try to invest in Playa Dorada? I heard they shipped in sand and everything. Now I heard there are weeds in the sand. LOL.
You mean Puerto Plata no doubt?No, I mean Puerto Rico. Read the below posts.
Cruise ships never stay at a port very long.
1. It costs them money to stay in the port using electrical power, water etc besides port charges. Better for them to meander in the ocean.
2. All side trips and beach activities finish by 6 PM. They did not take mongering time in figuring this.
3. Cruise passengers are usually families doing things together. Even single guys travel with a GF.
They are unlikely to go look for quick romp and fuck. Although many family guys would love to sneak away for a quick satisfaction.
4. Cruise passengers do not want to get in trouble with law, irritable chicas etc.
So crackdown in Sosua has nothing to do with cruise stop in mind. It is just that all over the world prostituition is frowned upon. Even struggling economies do not want to use mongering destination to attract tourists.
Even in Thailand which is well known tries to shun prostitution.
Member #4398
09-19-14, 08:07
I sense a lot of Paranoia from some about the recent prostitution track down, and closing of some of the most popular monger places in Sosua like Passion, CMP etc and recent deportation (this is also called voluntarily asked to leave the country) of foreight business man that have been promoting prostitution in Sosua. The last guy deported this week was the Italian Armando Casiati, the owner of some hotels in Puerto Plata / Sosua and of the Merengue club and the Classico see: http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3832&article=1I I think from reading the previous reports, Cubadave was also asked to leave the DR for promoting sex tourism. He made the promotion of sex tourism super odvious with all those youtube videos and great reviews of mongering places in Sosua like passions, CMP, Dlatin, Classico, Rumba, etc. And to be honest, thanks to Cubadave's promotion, that is how I decided to make a trip to DR this year and I had a great time, but bad for Cubadave that he had to leave.
Just some things to keep in mind and to in keep perspective:
1. Although Prostitution is legal in the DR, promoting it and / or deriving financial gains from it is not. I am not a lawyer, but for a Dominican authority to make a case against guys like.
Armando Casiati, it is pretty easy. All they have to do is go to one of his places and video tape the activity inside, find some hookers employed there and if they are stupid enough to have minors in there employed or as prostitutes then it is easy to add more criminal charges. In regards to places that promote prostitution and brothels (this is supposed to be illegal), that part of the law is not enforced that much as seen by the activity in Sosua in the bars that have rooms for sex an have tons of hookers and and also the brothels in many towns of the country. In my opinion, those places are able to operate because they bribe the authorities, judicial system and police in order to operate their businesses.
2. This takes me to the point number 2 that the DR is still considered a third world country and that corruption quite ingrained in the culture. This is made evident by the constant husslers, politians stealing money left and right from public projects, the Police asking for money for breakfast, lunch, or giving you a break after a traffit violation with some dollars given, the motoconcho or taxi guy inflating the fare if you don't know the fare or giving you the Gringo treatment, people being released from jail easily after crime committed just with the persuasive power of money etc, etc, etc. See this interesting corruption index by country: http://www.transparency.org/cpi2013/results "The Index scores 177 countries and territories on a scale from 0 (highly corrupt) to 100 (very clean). No country has a perfect score, and two-thirds of countries score below 50. This indicates a serious, worldwide corruption problem". The DR has 29 or way bellow 5 O, therefore got a super corrupt score. I lived grew up in the DR for 20 years so I know this by experience. I remember 25 years ago getting my drivers license in the DR when I was about 18 in 1987 and I did not get my license after passing the test because I refused to give the inspector what he called "his thing" or a bride. Things have not changed in regards to corruption.
3. Being careless and getting out of the confines of the law, will open the door for trouble. I think that the key is as Tempoecorto puts it best when advises the hobbyist "to behave publicly and discreet" and also diversifying locations or is it diversifying allocations to manage risk. I think Tempoecorto is in finance or risk management because of these ideas.
4. As a monger, keep going to the DR. There is so much opportunities is Sosua, Cabarete, Santiago, the Capital, Boca Chica, Las Terrenas / Samana, etc etc and enjoy the chicas everywhere you go, the choices are bast. It is a legal activity for girls over 18, check their cedula I'd and you won't get in trouble unless you don't pay the hooker accordingly or as agreed (she could call the cops for not paying and you cocould get arrested). Also, Don't advertise with anyone that you are a monger (keep this just among mongers), stay within the confines of the law, avoid the minors, avoid the problematic type of hooker types, don't buy drugs there, etc. The DR is is a very contradictory culture. In general is a mainly catholic culture and Some values of the Catholic religion are taught from early age and prostitution is a sinful activity as taught by the religion. Mongers and even those foreign investors get the wrong perception of the country about the country and that prostitution is normal and accepted when staying in Sosua or BocaChica with so many chicas everywhere, but as a Dominican raised / born, prostitution it something despised by the general population. And finally, don't lose perspective or get careless like those guys that were asked to leave the DR.
That is correct. Nonetheless, for the doom and gloom sayers, there was a recent report from a Cerebro, under cabarete. He is of Dominican origin who left the island 20 years back. He states that even in the past, that is at least 20 years back, Sosua was still well known. This is why, I think it is useless to worry about the demise of the place.
As long as the hobbyist knows how to behave publicly, and be discreet about something they cannot brag back home about, I cannot imagine anything is going to happen to him / them. Of course, it might be quite different for the NY kind of behavior. Finally, if you can, diversifying out of Sosua, is how you would manage your risk.
I remember years ago when Classicos would play rock and roll during the weekdays and hip hop on the weekends. Classicos would be mostly euro tourist couples during the weekdays and the young Newyorkers wouldn't roll in till the weekends. What if they changed the music at Classicos and rumbas to be more tourist friendly, would that kill a certain foreign traveling dynamic?
No one travels to Sosua to hear a certain kind of music. Bars and discos in Sosua try to attract business and sell drinks, maybe some food, and possibly an admission fee also by providing a place where men can meet chicas. The kind of music played will depend partially on the kind of clientele that is in town, but that can change almost from day to day.
If the music is very loud and the ambience has low lighting, then conversation is impossible and people have to get within touching distance of each other or place their mouth right up against the ear of the person they are speaking to, which can lead to sexual arousal. Also chicas tend to look more attractive when the lights are low and the drinks are flowing.
If the climate is hot, people get more thirsty and more drinks are sold. Dancing makes people hot.
The bars and discos in Sosua could also slightly modify their business plan so as to attract non-mongering tourist business, but it is obviously much harder to profit that way.
There is an old saying in poker playing circles that if you sit down at a table and you cannot see an obvious "mark", then the mark is you. It is a bit like that in Sosua. If the bar seems set up to appeal to you, then as soon as you walk in, you are the target. The most extreme version of this are those "clubs" in Santo Domingo that appear to be set up like a bar with a barman, drinks, and groups of chicas and a few men sitting around--and overpriced drinks. The moment you walk in you are the target of the whole operation. Bars in Sosua work on the same principle. These are not community watering spots, the whole set-up is focused on you and your money, even if that is not immediately apparent.
Parkinsons
09-19-14, 16:04
Drove the Luperon from Santiago to Sosua. Left my date in Santiago around 11:30 pm, barely made it to Sosua before the street shut down. I'm sure this has been discussed before. I just didn't pay attention. Do not believe in your GPS. Don't take the luperon!
No one travels to Sosua to hear a certain kind of music. Bars and discos in Sosua try to attract business and sell drinks, maybe some food, and possibly an admission fee also by providing a place where men can meet chicas. The kind of music played will depend partially on the kind of clientele that is in town, but that can change almost from day to day.
If the music is very loud and the ambience has low lighting, then conversation is impossible and people have to get within touching distance of each other or place their mouth right up against the ear of the person they are speaking to, which can lead to sexual arousal. Also chicas tend to look more attractive when the lights are low and the drinks are flowing.
If the climate is hot, people get more thirsty and more drinks are sold. Dancing makes people hot.
The bars and discos in Sosua could also slightly modify their business plan so as to attract non-mongering tourist business, but it is obviously much harder to profit that way.
There is an old saying in poker playing circles that if you sit down at a table and you cannot see an obvious "mark", then the mark is you. It is a bit like that in Sosua. If the bar seems set up to appeal to you, then as soon as you walk in, you are the target. The most extreme version of this are those "clubs" in Santo Domingo that appear to be set up like a bar with a barman, drinks, and groups of chicas and a few men sitting around--and overpriced drinks. The moment you walk in you are the target of the whole operation. Bars in Sosua work on the same principle. These are not community watering spots, the whole set-up is focused on you and your money, even if that is not immediately apparent.You make my point for me. You won't see the older white golf crowd in Classicos on hip hop night because of the pussy, they will congregate somewhere that is more comfortable to hunt pussy. On the flip end you won't see the hip hop crowd running to Classicos if they only played country western, they will get pussy somewhere else. Young Dominican women are in tune with latin and hip hop music so there is a certain comfort level.
Take Costa Rica for example; the clientele is mostly affluent and white but you won't hear any hardcore hip hop music there hence you won't see many brothers there either. Certain groups congregate where they can experience a certain comfort level while hunting pussy, and the music can play a small part in that, that's my point.
ForceSteeler
09-19-14, 18:57
You make my point for me. You won't see the older white golf crowd in Classicos on hip hop night because of the pussy, they will congregate somewhere that is more comfortable to hunt pussy. On the flip end you won't see the hip hop crowd running to Classicos if they only played country western, they will get pussy somewhere else. Young Dominican women are in tune with latin and hip hop music so there is a certain comfort level.
Take Costa Rica for example; the clientele is mostly affluent and white but you won't hear any hardcore hip hop music there hence you won't see many brothers there either. Certain groups congregate where they can experience a certain comfort level while hunting pussy, and the music can play a small part in that, that's my point.Yeah I laugh when Cubadave says he hates Classicos, because he has no game. I want to smack him on his head and say. "What Game" You don't need game to pull a girl from Classicos, all you need is to be a clean person (Hygiene) and have some pesos.
But he still prefers Passions and CMP instead.
On the flip end you won't see the hip hop crowd running to Classicos if they only played country western, they will get pussy somewhere else. No, I think they would become country western aficionados if that was where the pussy was. I am more of a jazz fan, so no one plays the music I like the most in bars, but in La Sirena I don't dislike the music which is mostly instrumental-pop-orchestral versions of popular jazz tunes and movie themes and I have never seen anyone run screaming from La Sirena with their fingers in their ears, or even seen anyone on this board complaining about the music there. If La Sirena had shelves stacked with pussy, the hip-hop crowd would be there grooving to ancient tunes like Frenesi or Perfidia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0iFlw6ba2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-n_AuhZC4
Gentlemen the Sosua as we know it is coming to an end. Classical will soon be closed! This squeeze is now in effect you're not allowed to grab girls from front of rumba in a car. You are subject to be pulled over and check to see if the females a prostitute. More later.
Charles Pooter
09-20-14, 19:49
... in La Sirena I don't dislike the music which is mostly instrumental-pop-orchestral versions of popular jazz tunes and movie themes and I have never seen ... anyone on this board complaining about the music there. Then let me be the first. In England we call this stuff "lift music" (lift = elevator). What is worse they only have one tape with about twelve tunes which I have been listening to for five years now.
ForceSteeler
09-20-14, 20:04
Gentlemen the Sosua as we know it is coming to an end. Classical will soon be closed! This squeeze is now in effect you're not allowed to grab girls from front of rumba in a car. You are subject to be pulled over and check to see if the females a prostitute. More later.When is Classicos closing?
Gentlemen the Sosua as we know it is coming to an end. Classical will soon be closed! This squeeze is now in effect you're not allowed to grab girls from front of rumba in a car. You are subject to be pulled over and check to see if the females a prostitute. More later.There is nothing worse than a guy who makes broad statements like this and scares everyone and then without backing things up (like your closing statement) and then says "More later". If you have some facts tell us why, but don't tease.
There is nothing worse than a guy who makes broad statements like this and scares everyone and then without backing things up (like your closing statement) and then says "More later". If you have some facts tell us why, but don't tease.Relax! He gave a brief intro about things that are happening and he will return soon with more details. He is probably our best on the scene reporter right now so please don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off.
Member #4398
09-21-14, 01:35
The changes in Sosua are real. They are trying to change Sosua as a destination for sex tourism to a family tourism destination. The authorities are systematically arresting and deporting the oowners of those best mongering places in Sosua and shutting those places down. Here are some accomplishment from the authorities from just a year. All the owners were charged / accused of promoting sex tourism and some also charged with proxenetismo (pimping) sexual exploitation and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).
1) September 2014 Italian Armando Cassiati owner of merengue bar and DClassico arrested and deported http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3832&article=1.
2) July 2014 USA Citizen Robert Anechiarico (better known as Bob) owner of Rumba bar arrested and deported http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3761&article=1.
3) July 2013 La Passion German Peter Jensen owner of La Passion arrested http://latinamericacurrentevents.com/puerto-plata-dominican-republic-2-sentenced-for-sexual-exploitation-of-32-women/28932/.
http://www.nicepeoplenetworking.com/2013/la-passions-bar-in-sosua-has-been-closed-by-the-attorney-general%E2%80%99s-office-on-july-21st-2013/
4) CubaDave not an owner of a club but was asked by authorities to leave the country for promoting sex tourism http://www.latintravelvip.com/is-cubadave-too-popular-for-the-dominican-republic/.
Relax! He gave a brief intro about things that are happening and he will return soon with more details. He is probably our best on the scene reporter right now so please don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off.Thank you Mr G. And I understand your frustration Mr be. I have to use my sell your phone for communication. These iPhones are held to type on and I am on vacation. Trying to take advantage of this pussy that's here. I don't have any real hard evidence I'm only sitting and talking to the guys that have been here for a while. I'm talking with King Kong and friends. The gentleman that got deported brought King Kong to the DR. Guys were complaining because they had invested money in buying condos. And now with the deportation of the owner the money is lost. For now classico is open. Business owners on the beach are informing all the customers not talk to the women unless they are buying them something to make it seem like they know each other. We called a young chica to our table and he almost went crazy. We were at the Jamaican restaurant on the beach. He said times are hard and the girls are working with the police and can set you up. He said he has seen it on several occasions and he do not want to be known on the beach at the place where customers go to jail for talking to chica. I thank him for his information but the look in his eyes make me feel paranoid. As I walked away with the chica I felt for the first time as if I'm walking through my sons high school with a girl I just picked up in his first period class. Wondering if I can make it to my car without the princible stopping me and asking her am I her father. We made it to the car with no problems however I notice when we passed the police she ducked her head. As I passed the strip things looked as normal but things are very slow here. Sorry more to come.
In my opinion Sosua is dependent on monger money. Hotels, restaurants and services are dominated by monger dollars. Locals may come on Sundays for family Beach time but they spend very few pesos. However when politician are involved anything can happen. I know there are some upper class folk in the area who are offended BY having putas and mongers invading their town. At the end of the day we need each other.
Relax! He gave a brief intro about things that are happening and he will return soon with more details. He is probably our best on the scene reporter right now so please don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off.
Then let me be the first. In England we call this stuff "lift music" (lift = elevator). What is worse they only have one tape with about twelve tunes which I have been listening to for five years now.I could have sworn they had a second tape with Jingle Bells and Feliz Navidad.
standing outside of rumba watching the police walk up the block and the chica rep001ter like roaches. i seen the security staff at rumba warn the girls when the police was coming up the block. inside of room it's packef wall to wall like the rumba of the pass.
When is Classicos closing?I can't tell you when the club is closing. But from my understanding they close Dudes hotels and they're closing the casino for good. I don't know if all of this for certain I'm just telling you what's being said here today.
Charles Pooter
09-21-14, 05:08
I could have sworn they had a second tape with Jingle Bells and Feliz Navidad.Yes, you are right. Unless it is the same tape played backwards. Let's see, it's late September. They will start playing that version any day now, and put out all the Christmas trash.
In my opinion Sosua is dependent on monger money. Hotels, restaurants and services are dominated by monger dollars. Locals may come on Sundays for family Beach time but they spend very few pesos. However when politician are involved anything can happen. I know there are some upper class folk in the area who are offended BY having putas and mongers invading their town. At the end of the day we need each other.Of course mongering contributes to the economy of Sosua, but I think you are grossly underestimating the economic impact of the numerous foreign residents in the area with the foreign currency they bring in and the money they spend on goods and services, jobs provided in construction, and so on. It is not the mongering dollar that has drawn another large supermarket, La Pola, to the area to compete with Supermercado Playero, nor is it the mongering dollar that supports several private schools in the area, some of them charging as much as $400 per month.
Clearly the argument could be made that clearing up the festering sores of the sex industry would hugely enhance the desirability of the area for retirement or winter homes for Europeans and those Canadians and Americans who don't care too much for Florida, so that what was lost in mongering dollars would be well compensated for in the long run by attracting more residents and increasing real estate values in an area close to an international airport, fine beaches, pleasant weather and sea breezes all the year round.
The Mind Bender
09-21-14, 06:32
standing outside of rumba watching the police walk up the block and the chica rep001ter like roaches. i seen the security staff at rumba warn the girls when the police was coming up the block. inside of room it's packef wall to wall like the rumba of the pass.thanks for the updates.
are you having any issues picking up chicas inside the bar and the disco?
are the police hassling any of the mongers? (walking to and from their hotel with girls).
how do you think this is going to affect the halloween festivities in sosua?
ConquerorVal
09-21-14, 19:52
Clearly the argument could be made that clearing up the festering sores of the sex industry would hugely enhance the desirability of the area for retirement or winter homes for Europeans and those Canadians and Americans who don't care too much for Florida, so that what was lost in mongering dollars would be well compensated for in the long run by attracting more residents and increasing real estate values in an area close to an international airport, fine beaches, pleasant weather and sea breezes all the year round.I am not sure whether anyone has actually done any number crunching regarding the economic viability of as you put it "clearing up the festering sores of the sex industry". Obviously, DR being a Catholic country is unwilling to follow the Pattaya business model, where the sex industry gets along just fine with the mongering and regular retirement community. Sosua is nothing special, and DR is not known as the safest or a very desirable place for retirement. For example, Panama, Ecuador and other countries have more to offer to retirees. Annual lists of places to retire come up, and I have not seen DR at the top. If Sosua closes down I personally, will never return to DR. There is so much more out there that is even more appealing. The mongering dollars will just move to other destinations. I just came back from St. Martin and may return there instead of going to Sosua next year. DR's loss will be some other country's gain. I wish the powers to be would take a more measured approach, rather than mowing down businesses. Just my two pesos worth.
If you can't say when it's closing then you can't say if it's closing. Saying THIS IS WHAT I HEAR is meaningless. I hear many things from many different people. That's why you should should never say what's going to happen in Sosua. Nobody knows what's going to happen. As always it could get worse or could get better. There are people fighting on both sides or else closing down would be easy and have already taken place. So I want to know only what is happenig now, because nobody has any certain info about the future.
Every time I agree with Frannie I have to look into a mirror to make sure it's me, but I do think things and Sosua have gotten a bit out of hand. Maybe I'm a little biased because I was initiated into this game with the "old Sosua". I remember a Sosua without hardcore guys and girls. I remember girls who did what you wanted, for how long you wanted, and for how much you wanted to pay. It was all about making your vacation memorable. They wanted a boyfriend, they wanted to introduce you to the family, they wanted to cook you a Domnican meal.
Sosua had couples walkng down the street holding hands or going to the beach. You would see couples eating breakfast at New gardens. Back then you could leave your girl in the room and go bar jumping on the strip and she was happy with the remote and air conditioner. Everyone was smiling and happy back then.
Back then the going rate was what you wanted to pay, now guys start the conversations with "how much?" Now girls say "cien or buy me a beer" before they give you their name. Now girls do two minute blow jobs and 15 minute fucks and beat you back to the starting one. Back then the girls were sweet now you are on the lookout for upcoming bs.
Not so crazy, stupid or ignorant as you might think.
They had planned to offer a cruise with port of call in Maimon, which will include shore excursions for the day or two (overnight stay of ship at port) and (catch this!) extended inland excursions in the country of several days with an option to return on either a scheduled ship for the port or air travel to their final destination.
Unlike stated in the article, passengers opting for that option must do so even before boarding the ship. They must arrange such things with the cruise sales agent.
This will be a depart from inland extended excursions that had either to be carried out prior to boarding the cruise ship or at the end of it, without an option to re-embark to another ship for return.
That's why this port complex is so ground breaking for the cruise line biz.
In order to circumvent policies in the USA That demand cruise passengers embark / return on the same port / ship as they took. The cruises aiming to offer such options will make use of Puerto Rico's own cruise policies. They do allow cruise ships to embark passengers in one port and end their trip at another port if elected.
The DR was selected to introduce this new format of cruise offerings, due to the diversity of options for travelers to select from. From staying a week in Ciudad Colonial and touring the oldest city in the new world, to river rafting, white sandy beaches in Punta Cana, etc.
In order to make this happen, the new four lane road from the new CN in Santiago to Puerto Plata will be taking shape.
A clean-up of Sosua / Puerto Plata is concurrent and undergoing.
As stated "passengers" travel plans for this must be done prior to embarking on the cruise. It will not be selective after the cruise ship departs on the trip and beyond. Unless the passenger decides to terminate their trip and catch the flight home of option, there will not be a catch the next ship on port to go home as described in the article.
If the hardcore monger take their money else where then maybe my Sosua will be back.
Herman sent me this link:
http://www.domreptotal.com/de/category/reports/2-reportagen/530-fuehrt-die-tourismuspolitik-sosua-in-den-abgrund
If you can't say when it's closing then you can't say if it's closing. Saying THIS IS WHAT I HEAR is meaningless. I hear many things from many different people. That's why you should should never say what's going to happen in Sosua. Nobody knows what's going to happen. As always it could get worse or could get better. There are people fighting on both sides or else closing down would be easy and have already taken place. So I want to know only what is happenig now, because nobody has any certain info about the future.That's cool Bimmy but I wasn't trying to answer your specific information. I was giving general information from people that live here in Sosua to the board because I was here in Sosua. There are a lot of us that would love to hear any news to what's going on. I know my information sounds frustrating. I was frustrated as well seeing everything changing myself. If it does not fit your entertainment do as I do with Fannie subject of discussions.
That's cool Bimmy but I wasn't trying to answer your specific information. I was giving general information from people that live here in Sosua to the board because I was here in Sosua. There are a lot of us that would love to hear any news to what's going on. I know my information sounds frustrating. I was frustrated as well seeing everything changing myself. If it does not fit your entertainment do as I do with Fannie subject of discussions.GrownMan keep us posted as long as your in town. I'll be there starting this Thursday staying for two weeks and will report my observations as well.
ForceSteeler
09-21-14, 22:39
GrownMan keep us posted as long as your in town. I'll be there starting this Thursday staying for two weeks and will report my observations as well.I will heading to Sosua in October, I will give you guys status updates.
I've been here since weds. Its my first time and all in all its what I expected. Plenty of chicas I never had an issue with the police or picking up chicas and I've gotten them from everywhere. They seem to just stroll through the strip. Classicos Thursday Friday and Saturday were like a movie it takes getting used to. I've had issues with chicas, they don't seem to want to leave. The chicas got some weird habits like pissing with door open and not flushing. I've had some of the best sex of my life on this trip. 6 chicas and counting. Full trip report when I leave.
I've been here since weds. Its my first time and all in all its what I expected. Plenty of chicas I never had an issue with the police or picking up chicas and I've gotten them from everywhere. They seem to just stroll through the strip. Classicos Thursday Friday and Saturday were like a movie it takes getting used to. I've had issues with chicas, they don't seem to want to leave. The chicas got some weird habits like pissing with door open and not flushing. I've had some of the best sex of my life on this trip. 6 chicas and counting. Full trip report when I leave.Great to her a first timer having a blast!
Not so crazy, stupid or ignorant as you might think.
They had planned to offer a cruise with port of call in Maimon, which will include shore excursions for the day or two (overnight stay of ship at port) and (catch this!) extended inland excursions in the country of several days with an option to return on either a scheduled ship for the port or air travel to their final destination.
Unlike stated in the article, passengers opting for that option must do so even before boarding the ship. They must arrange such things with the cruise sales agent.
This will be a depart from inland extended excursions that had either to be carried out prior to boarding the cruise ship or at the end of it, without an option to re-embark to another ship for return.
That's why this port complex is so ground breaking for the cruise line biz.
In order to circumvent policies in the USA That demand cruise passengers embark / return on the same port / ship as they took. The cruises aiming to offer such options will make use of Puerto Rico's own cruise policies. They do allow cruise ships to embark passengers in one port and end their trip at another port if elected.
The DR was selected to introduce this new format of cruise offerings, due to the diversity of options for travelers to select from. From staying a week in Ciudad Colonial and touring the oldest city in the new world, to river rafting, white sandy beaches in Punta Cana, etc.
In order to make this happen, the new four lane road from the new CN in Santiago to Puerto Plata will be taking shape.
A clean-up of Sosua / Puerto Plata is concurrent and undergoing.
As stated "passengers" travel plans for this must be done prior to embarking on the cruise. It will not be selective after the cruise ship departs on the trip and beyond. Unless the passenger decides to terminate their trip and catch the flight home of option, there will not be a catch the next ship on port to go home as described in the article.
If the hardcore monger take their money else where then maybe my Sosua will be back.As I said before this can never work. Somebody might have dreamed of this idea and sold the idea. It might have been someone who wants to clean up Sosua. But it could never be functional or profitable.
I know people who have worked with cruise lines. The costs of docking in port are tremendous as was stated here by another poster. The cost of aR / T cruise from S. Fla. to the DR for a 2 night stay would have to be at least 1. 5 G's (USDs). Who would pay that? Plus for longer stays it would be much more than that. Plus most people in the US do not reside in S. Fla. Thus they have to fly to their cruise and then back. The cost of that would be the same as buying a package that would get them directly to the DR. So the cruise would be just a very expensive cost to their travel. Plus a cruise is time consuming and why would people want to waste that time if their purpose is to vacation in the DR. You don't have to take a cruise to tour all the sites you mention.
So this idea might be somebody's pipe dream but there is no market for this. In this day and age there is no way any considerable amount of tourists would arrive in the DR from the US by ship. There could never be enough to make it profitable.
My mistake for that post. I was typing with my iPhone and somehow I mixed an old post with a new post. My apologies to the board.
Charles Pooter
09-22-14, 13:23
the chicas got some weird habits like pissing with door open and not flushing.we have discussed this before. i live in a middle-class dominican apartment block alongside small business owners, a lawyer, land owners, a vetinary surgeon, etc. not deluxe, but not a slum either.
in the summer we have to conserve the water supply. the city water only flows an average of two hours a day. after that we have to live off what is stored in our tinacos (rooftop tanks). i was (wrongly) advised to instal a 275 gallon tinaco (should have been at least 400) and some days we used to run out of water until i laid down rules about when to do the washing, and about not flushing just for [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). (just pour in a little cloro).
most of the putas will come from homes where water is much scarcer. some poor barrios only get city water three or four times a week with many homes having no storage facility. you will see old water standing around in buckets (which is disastrous with the present outbreak of chikungunya). so if they don't flush after peeing they are just being considerate to you.
not closing the door is a different issue, but remember many guys like to watch so maybe they are being considerate there too!
on my last trip i was in the room with a pretty young non pro. when she got naked i noticed much stuble on her privates. i am sure she did not have the money for shaving the area as much as she would like. these girls live in a very different world then us. we take so much for granite. i think she was enbarassed when i mentioned it. i had shaving products she could have used.
i ran in to several girls on my last trip that were brand new on the strip 2 years ago who are still plying there trade. it is a not an easy life.
we have discussed this before. i live in a middle-class dominican apartment block alongside small business owners, a lawyer, land owners, a vetinary surgeon, etc. not deluxe, but not a slum either.
in the summer we have to conserve the water supply. the city water only flows an average of two hours a day. after that we have to live off what is stored in our tinacos (rooftop tanks). i was (wrongly) advised to instal a 275 gallon tinaco (should have been at least 400) and some days we used to run out of water until i laid down rules about when to do the washing, and about not flushing just for [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). (just pour in a little cloro).
most of the putas will come from homes where water is much scarcer. some poor barrios only get city water three or four times a week with many homes having no storage facility. you will see old water standing around in buckets (which is disastrous with the present outbreak of chikungunya). so if they don't flush after peeing they are just being considerate to you.
not closing the door is a different issue, but remember many guys like to watch so maybe they are being considerate there too!
Tempoecorto
09-22-14, 18:28
Not closing the door is a different issue, but remember many guys like to watch so maybe they are being considerate there too!In 2011, my second trip ever to Sosua, I stayed at Casa Valeria for two days. One afternoon, just standing out on the pavement in front of the hotel, a young woman passing by asks me if she can use my bathroom. I was like, um, sure! I let her in the room. Show the bathroom to the right and stay out, out of respect for privacy but even after 10 minutes, she does not come out. So, I go in to check and see she is sitting on the pottie with the bathroom door wide open. Curious!
Marc Anthony
09-22-14, 21:53
we have discussed this before. i live in a middle-class dominican apartment block alongside small business owners, a lawyer, land owners, a vetinary surgeon, etc. not deluxe, but not a slum either.
in the summer we have to conserve the water supply. the city water only flows an average of two hours a day. after that we have to live off what is stored in our tinacos (rooftop tanks). i was (wrongly) advised to instal a 275 gallon tinaco (should have been at least 400) and some days we used to run out of water until i laid down rules about when to do the washing, and about not flushing just for [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). (just pour in a little cloro).
most of the putas will come from homes where water is much scarcer. some poor barrios only get city water three or four times a week with many homes having no storage facility. you will see old water standing around in buckets (which is disastrous with the present outbreak of chikungunya). so if they don't flush after peeing they are just being considerate to you.
not closing the door is a different issue, but remember many guys like to watch so maybe they are being considerate there too!i've wanted to ask about chikungunya but was waiting for somebody to bring it up. what's going on with it on the north coast? the descriptions of months and years of joint pain after an infection seem more intimidating to me than other tropical infections with a higher mortality rate but fewer long term consequences.
is there widespread awareness?
Riky Rapido
09-23-14, 18:20
I've wanted to ask about Chikungunya but was waiting for somebody to bring it up. What's going on with it on the North Coast? The descriptions of months and years of joint pain after an infection seem more intimidating to me than other tropical infections with a higher mortality rate but fewer long term consequences.
Is there widespread awareness?I have it, got it about two months ago. Suffered through incredible pain, sick, sick sick. I should have gone for an injection but didn't until a relapse 6 weeks later. This time incredible cramps and joint pain but not total body like the first round. Just about everyone over 50 whom I spoken to has lingering aches and arthritic symptoms in the hands. I still ain't going back.
Member #4398
09-23-14, 19:25
I have it, got it about two months ago. Suffered through incredible pain, sick, sick sick. I should have gone for an injection but didn't until a relapse 6 weeks later. This time incredible cramps and joint pain but not total body like the first round. Just about everyone over 50 whom I spoken to has lingering aches and arthritic symptoms in the hands. I still ain't going back.Last August 2014, I did a lot traveling throughout the DR in guaguas, share taxis or Carritos, and Caribe tours, From Boca Chica, Santo Domingo to La Vega, Santiago, Puerto Plata, Sosua, Cabarete, and Rio Sanjuan and got a chance to speak to many of the local people about the Chikungunya. Nobody knew how to say the word correctly but everyone new about it and many already had it. Many said it was the worst body ache / joint arthritic pain with rash, itch, etc they have in their lives. Even one young hoe I had in Cabarete told me that she had it for 2 weeks and that she was walking like an old lady when she had it. Some local claimed they had it short term and others long term and some for several months. I saw that they were talking in the news about it and some reporters even had to take days off for it. From speaking to the local, that thing was almost like an epidemic early in the year and by the summer there were less reports and less news.
Here is a link with information of the virus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikungunya
I just came back from the war zone and I can tell you that the place (just like this board) is rife with rumours, but for the most part it is business as usual.
I saw no chicas being hassled, no mongers being hassled, and there were enough walking chicas to satisfy everybody.
The big complaint from the locals is the lack of touristas. Right now there's not enough mongers to keep the places open, except for the usual spots.
I spoke to hotel and restaurant owners, and they are all over the place with their opinions.
One thing they agreed upon is that very recently they were warned that unescorted chicas would not be allowed to enter the bars, but they all shrugged their shoulders like, What can we do, the chicas were coming in as we spoke.
It will take some time to see to what degree they will clamp down and enforce these new rules, but for now the politicians (as usual) seem more interested in showing that they are doing something, but actually doing nothing.
There a huge conflict of interest going on there, and the desire to change to local control of the cash cow money pit, which I 've seen before.
Think Hong Kong after the Brits, the Bahamas after independence from the UK, and of course Cuba.
Business still pretty much the same as ever for the monger.
C'mon. Down!
Member #4398
09-23-14, 22:07
I just came back from the war zone and I can tell you that the place (just like this board) is rife with rumours, but for the most part it is business as usual.
I saw no chicas being hassled, no mongers being hassled, and there were enough walking chicas to satisfy everybody.
The big complaint from the locals is the lack of touristas. Right now there's not enough mongers to keep the places open, except for the usual spots.
I spoke to hotel and restaurant owners, and they are all over the place with their opinions.
One thing they agreed upon is that very recently they were warned that unescorted chicas would not be allowed to enter the bars, but they all shrugged their shoulders like, What can we do, the chicas were coming in as we spoke.
It will take some time to see to what degree they will clamp down and enforce these new rules, but for now the politicians (as usual) seem more interested in showing that they are doing something, but actually doing nothing.
There a huge conflict of interest going on there, and the desire to change to local control of the cash cow money pit, which I 've seen before.
Think Hong Kong after the Brits, the Bahamas after independence from the UK, and of course Cuba.
Business still pretty much the same as ever for the monger.
C'mon. Down!I agree Sosua is not ending and will never end. It is pretty much wishful thinking to try to change the culture of that town without any plan or strategy. The Politicians are just hurting the economy of the town on the hookers and the closing of mongering places and arrest of their owners. They don't have a plan for those that work in the bars or the prostitutes. The plan is that family tourism will replace sex turism. Really? They would have to remodel the whole poor town of Sosua and replace the people that live there and all the shacks for families to be attracted to go there. Yes Sosua has a great beach but it is not enough. Besides prostitution is ingrained in the culture of that town.
ForceSteeler
09-23-14, 23:38
I just came back from the war zone and I can tell you that the place (just like this board) is rife with rumours, but for the most part it is business as usual.
I saw no chicas being hassled, no mongers being hassled, and there were enough walking chicas to satisfy everybody.
The big complaint from the locals is the lack of touristas. Right now there's not enough mongers to keep the places open, except for the usual spots.
I spoke to hotel and restaurant owners, and they are all over the place with their opinions.
One thing they agreed upon is that very recently they were warned that unescorted chicas would not be allowed to enter the bars, but they all shrugged their shoulders like, What can we do, the chicas were coming in as we spoke.
It will take some time to see to what degree they will clamp down and enforce these new rules, but for now the politicians (as usual) seem more interested in showing that they are doing something, but actually doing nothing.
There a huge conflict of interest going on there, and the desire to change to local control of the cash cow money pit, which I 've seen before.
Think Hong Kong after the Brits, the Bahamas after independence from the UK, and of course Cuba.
Business still pretty much the same as ever for the monger.
C'mon. Down!My Friend just landed yesterday. He told me since Classicos is back in full effect. The Prices of these chicas have drop dramatically and is back to normal (1500/2000 Pesos). The Chicas are complaining about lack of tourist, alot of guys are not coming to sosua like that anymore so the days of waiting on a 3000-4000 peso newbie sucker is over. The Talent has also gotten better since the chicas have to pay to come into Classicos. Only the hot girls that know they will catch a date will come to classicos, Its not like Dlatinos where you have all the hood rats, all the hood rat gutta trash will not waste there pesos trying to come into classicos.
Quick update from last Friday (yeah, I only stayed in town one night):
=Less gringos than I've seen before.
-could be due to low season or could be due to CubaDave effect. Don't know.
=6 pm - 8 pm. Most of the action still at Rumba.
-larger number of heavy set women waltzing around.
-very few stunners (by my standards) but since the number of guys were few very little competition between men for the few 8's that were around at that time.
=8 pm - 11 pm. The big chicas, 5's and 6's are slowing being replaced by 7's and 8's.
-Rumba still the center of action but the street itself is getting a larger crowd of both men and chicas.
-Line starts forming at Classicos before 11 and Merengue is getting busy.
=11 pm - 1 am. Classico opens up and the true 8's and 9's start to filter in.
-Most of the people on PC around midnight are crowding the entrance to Classicos.
-Starting at midnight the A-Team of chicas start to flood into the zone.
At this point in the evening, if you've got pesos you can have your pick of top shelf putas because the men were far, FAR outnumbered.
I didn't go inside Classico and this info is probably very familiar to the frequent travelers but overall I have to say that if you are fearful of less women coming to town due to the changes then your fears are NOT justified. At least for now.
The CubaDave effect? It's typically low season this time of year. CubaDave can write all the negative news he wants, it has no affect on many regulars in Sosua. When I first visited Sosua, I did read some of the glowing comments / reviews that CubaDave had written but my decision to go was a personal decision and his literature had nothing to do with it. His comments started to change and there was more negativity. I still went to Sosua. I still had a very good time. And I will still visit Sosua until I decide I'm either tired of it or have just found another location which is as convenient (only an hour and 40 min. Flight from Miami) and offers the best value for my money. I have seen changes sure, but I've been able to adjust to the changes and my experiences have been great. The CD effect is non-existent for me, and while he continues to whine about Sosua in general and pitch other locations as being better (yawn), I'll be enjoying Sosua and adjusting my gameplan as changes happen.
Seems like you had a fairly positive experience for one night even though early on it seems a bit uncertain, the best action is always after 8-9 PM in Sosua anyways and I have not seen a dip in quality at all in the last several months.
Quick update from last Friday (yeah, I only stayed in town one night):
=Less gringos than I've seen before.
-could be due to low season or could be due to CubaDave effect. Don't know.
=6 pm - 8 pm. Most of the action still at Rumba.
-larger number of heavy set women waltzing around.
-very few stunners (by my standards) but since the number of guys were few very little competition between men for the few 8's that were around at that time.
=8 pm - 11 pm. The big chicas, 5's and 6's are slowing being replaced by 7's and 8's.
-Rumba still the center of action but the street itself is getting a larger crowd of both men and chicas.
-Line starts forming at Classicos before 11 and Merengue is getting busy.
=11 pm - 1 am. Classico opens up and the true 8's and 9's start to filter in.
-Most of the people on PC around midnight are crowding the entrance to Classicos.
-Starting at midnight the A-Team of chicas start to flood into the zone.
At this point in the evening, if you've got pesos you can have your pick of top shelf putas because the men were far, FAR outnumbered.
I didn't go inside Classico and this info is probably very familiar to the frequent travelers but overall I have to say that if you are fearful of less women coming to town due to the changes then your fears are NOT justified. At least for now.
ShoeStrngBgt
09-24-14, 04:31
En route to Sosua on Caribe I was texting with a non-pro DR Cupid. Mid 20's, taking morning hair style classes and evening english clases. Lives with her mother in Puerta Plata. While on the bus she wanted to meet; we ended up meeting at the Caribe stop in Puerta Plata (I had a ticket to Sosua but figured it wouldn't hurt to get off the bus a little early).
We talked on Skype frequently but this is the first time meeting. Paid $150 pesos for a taxi to her sister's apartment. Her sister (fluent in english) and her friend both work in the tourist industry and share an apartment. Not long afterwards her mother arrived, enjoyed talking and hanging out with them for about 2 hours. She is just learning english so most of the conversation was in Spanish. Took in a goodbye kiss and continued on to Sosua. The apartment wasn't a terrible walk to the public taxi between Puerta Plata and Sosua (50 or 60 pesos, dirt cheap).
The taxi terminated right across from my hotel, Don Antonios. A few things I really like about the Hotel:
1) Its cheap, $38 a night.
2) Its relatively quiet, especially compared to the New Gardens of the world.
3) Its a close location to the strip.
4) Allen the bartender; however unfortunately he was on vacation during my stay.
5) Obie the manager.
Arrived around 9:00 or so, caught most of the Monday Night Football game at Rumbas. Afterwards I went to Club Meringue for a few pre-disco drinks. Went to the disco around 12:30 or so. I really didn't feel like pulling anyone (although the talent level here was the best, ration of 3-1 high quality to guys). This was the ratio on Monday, the ratio actually kept falling out of our favor as the week progressed. I didn't there on Thursday but by the looks of the line the quality was still there, but the number of guys greatly increased; I think the weekend crowd arrived.
As I wasn't looking to pull anything on Monday I did take down a few numbers from some that I thought were particularly attractive. Went to After One after the disco closed, keep in mind this was on a Monday Night. Total number of Guys - 4; normally this would be a good thing. But not including the staff that meant that there were 4 more guys than girls there. Not surprisingly the power there conveniently went out around 3:45 and they closed.
The next day I went back to Puerta Plata to hang out with english class chica for the afternoon. We went to one of those beach bars; the 4th or 5th one in from the start of the malecon (directly across we could see that statue on the island). Made in back in time for a Tuesday beach swim at Susoa Beach, had some dinner and hit the strip. Told one of the contacts from the disco the night before to meet me at the disco tonight. We did some dancing, actually a lot of dancing; and went back down to the Meringue bar for a after dance drink. Felt a good rapport with her, price was $2,500 for the night (2 sessions, night and morning).
After the morning session and a joint shower I went to open the safe and it wasn't responding. Being that the problem appeared electronic no amount of reading the instruction manual was going to help (which is just as well, as I think I locked that in the safe as well). Got dressed, thankfully Obie was down there and the reception, had the skeleton key; turns on the battery went dead. Had a ton of fun with her, wanted to meet her at the beach in the next afternoon, she agreed.
So I am back at my hotel after breakfast and a knock at the door. Who arrives? A girl from my last trip. She stayed a total of 2 days with me last trip, plus a day in Santo Domingo (even gave me a city tour on her motorbike). Apparently she saw me in the public taxi and took a guess that I would be staying at the same place. She comes in, wasn't really ready for a session but she makes the move and I couldn't help myself. She wanted to hang out later but I told her I already had plans. Percent chance I thought this would screw things up later. About the same percentage change of a naked selfie somehow ending up on the internet. After 1,100 pesos she is gone and I await heading to the beach.
11:30 arrived and I head to the beach, so naturally at 12:45 (Dominican time) she arrives; with her Sosua roomate on hand (henceforth to be referred to as the anchor). All in all it wasn't half bad, about 90 minutes or so; a few presidente grandes; some appetizers. We were at the Coral Reef bar, not a half bad place.
I had to run at 2:30 to catch a soccer match, we agreed to meet up later that night at the Disco. After the game I had to catch some afternoon sleep, had dinner and went to the Disco. I was still pretty tired and didn't plan to stay long, which was the economically feasible thing to do as she showed up with the anchor on hand. After one drink each we went back to the hotel for a night and morning session, same price ($2,500). After a joint shower we went for a New Garden breakfast together. She wants to meet again tonight (Thursday) but I said I may be too tired.
I'm off to meet my Puerta Plata gal, went directly to her house in Puerta Plata between her classes. Talked for a while, and had a fantastic session; so much better when you have known each other for a period of time beforehand. Afterwards we went to La Sirena, I took care of a $2,200 grocery shopping bill and we caught a taxi back to her place for another (and unfortunately last; for now anyway) session.
Back in Sosua I caught the Thursday night game (route) at Rumbas. My disco girl and the anchor arrived right at the end, told them I was too tired to do anything tonight. A lie, but it was still early and I didn't want to end up paying multiple rounds of drinks for the night. Afterward the game I went to a walk to the beach (not the public beach); on the way back to PC about a block south of the ice cream shop 4 policias nationales pull up on two bikes. After a short talk and 100 pesos later I am on my way. This was the first time I was ever shaken down in Sosua (or anywhere else in the DR for that matter, this was my 4th trip); I probably could have got away with not paying them but I wasn't going to make a stand on principle for 100 pesos. Went to Merengue bar and talked with Diane the bartender that has worked there since I started coming. Went across the street to Winners Circle to see what has happening, or I should say hear what's happening. Interesting place and music but no really my scene.
Afterwards (3:00) everyone was standing outside the Disco. I really wasn't feeling a session was in store, but ended up pulling a 19 yr old. Generally speaking I avoid them this young as it seems only to attach drama. There wasn't any drama but it wasn't much of a session, no real rapport; very mechanical. Had another morning session and it was the same. Paid her the $2,500 amount and went off to Santo Domingo for the remainder of the trip.
Santo Domingo report coming tomorrow.
Sosua Observations:
1) I really do not see how some of the restaurants are going to make it much longer. Not at this rate anyway, it seems like the only ones who go there are locals and they get next to nothing from the tourist crowd. This may change during weekends; I left on Friday.
2) For as much grief as the NYC crowd gets, I will say one thing in there defense. If it were not for them, at this point there would be no Sosua. Outside of the locals there were very very few people outside of this crowd that were there during the week.
3) It is so much nicer to establish a rapport with the girls before you arrive. If you want to sportf*ck it probably doesn't make much of a difference.
4) I would never do them, especially there; but there are plenty of drugs available. I'm assuming the motorbike drivers aren't Al Pacino fans when they mention Tony Montana to me.
5) Some of the places had a only accompanied ladies signs, however best I could tell this was minimally enforced; if enforced at all.
6) Not a lot of daytime activity, best bet there may be the beach. Or failing that head to a bar and find a seat; it won't take long before you attract attention.
7) I don't know how you guys can go here on multiple week excursions, I get worn out after less than a week.
The CubaDave effect? It's typically low season this time of year. CubaDave can write all the negative news he wants, it has no affect on many regulars in Sosua. When I first visited Sosua, I did read some of the glowing comments / reviews that CubaDave had written but my decision to go was a personal decision and his literature had nothing to do with it. His comments started to change and there was more negativity. I still went to Sosua. I still had a very good time. And I will still visit Sosua until I decide I'm either tired of it or have just found another location which is as convenient (only an hour and 40 min. Flight from Miami) and offers the best value for my money. I have seen changes sure, but I've been able to adjust to the changes and my experiences have been great. The CD effect is non-existent for me, and while he continues to whine about Sosua in general and pitch other locations as being better (yawn), I'll be enjoying Sosua and adjusting my gameplan as changes happen.
........We give Cuba Dave and others far too much credit for influencing what goes on in places like Sosua. Indeed, I think some guys place far too much importance on their own abilities to influence what goes down. They complain, threaten not to go back, as if a monger can change anything except his own way to spend time.
What I see going down there reminds me of 2 friends I had who did business in the Bahamas. One owned the main taxi business in Freeport and had happily lived there for years. They changed the rules one day and decided not to renew his visa / work / stay permit whatever, and he was forced to sell his business. But there were no takers, because the local mafia politicians made it clear they didn't want any. He was forced to give everything up for basically nothing and move back, broke, to Canada.
The other guy, was sent to Nassau to boost the sales of a national soft drink brand, by reorganizing an old inefficient bottling plant. He took his wife there and bought a house to live there permanently. After two years, when the business was a success he too was given notice to leave.
So when I see the list of all the business people arrested, deported whatever, from Sosua, and they are all foreigners and victims of unpredictable "rule changes" it looks like an old game. The foreigners are making too much money, and the local pols and their friends want in. So they make the "rules". Get rid of the outsiders.
If they are really deporting these foreigners to "clean up" Sosua, and they really do get rid of the prostitution over the next couple years, I'll be happy to eat my words.
There's a bigger game going on here, and it's far above the heads of us mongers, no matter how much "intel" some guys think they have.
So in the meantime I share your great big "yawn", and will like you, continue my happy experiences there.
The CubaDave effect? It's typically low season this time of year. CubaDave can write all the negative news he wants, it has no affect on many regulars in Sosua. When I first visited Sosua, I did read some of the glowing comments / reviews that CubaDave had written but my decision to go was a personal decision and his literature had nothing to do with it. His comments started to change and there was more negativity. I still went to Sosua. I still had a very good time. And I will still visit Sosua until I decide I'm either tired of it or have just found another location which is as convenient (only an hour and 40 min. Flight from Miami) and offers the best value for my money. I have seen changes sure, but I've been able to adjust to the changes and my experiences have been great. The CD effect is non-existent for me, and while he continues to whine about Sosua in general and pitch other locations as being better (yawn), I'll be enjoying Sosua and adjusting my gameplan as changes happen.
Seems like you had a fairly positive experience for one night even though early on it seems a bit uncertain, the best action is always after 8-9 PM in Sosua anyways and I have not seen a dip in quality at all in the last several months.Fair enough but my only experience in Sosua has been each month of summer 2014 so I've only seen the low season there. I was only in town one night this time so I can't make an overall judgement about last weekend as a whole and Saturday may have picked up a lot, I don't know.
I wonder how many guys that go are veterans with a lot of Sosua experience and how many are first or second timers who may indeed be influenced by CubaDave or other such self promoters. My thought was that the newcomers may have been turned off to Sosua by his rants and that could be one reason why this last Friday was especially slow. I figure those who've been going for years just ignore him. By the way I feel that less dudes and more hungry chicas is wonderful, LOL.
As far as the chicas go, the only difference I noticed before 8pm was a noticeable increase from my other couple of trips this summer in heavy-set girls.
Parkinsons
09-24-14, 16:15
Quick update from last Friday (yeah, I only stayed in town one night):
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=-I didn't go inside Classico and this info is probably very familiar to the frequent travelers but overall I have to say that if you are fearful of less women coming to town due to the changes then your fears are NOT justified. At least for now.Great write up of a timeline as things were happening.
I was there Friday night as well and can confirm your account.
It was my first time in Sosua so I had nothing to compare to, but the number of women there was mind blowing to me.
My apologies to the board I didn't mean to cause panic. After talking with Surfer yesterday; he pointed out how my statement may have been viewed. I have been coming to the DR for 5 to 15 day for the last year and a half. I have made 8 trips to Sosua not including this weekend. So I have seen the changes. The statement I made was not "Sosua is dead" or done. I said say "the Sosua as we know it". Its for the people that come here for the weekend on a regular. Anyone who has been coming here like me may or may no see the same changes. I was just passing the info being say by reliable locals. Mr Gogo and Camero have been trying to get our heads ready for possible changes. I now see and agree with their call for preparations. If you are new you will not notice anything. I also agree with Oakie when he states there a huge conflict of interest going on. Seeing how the employees of Rumba were working with the chicas and not the police. They could clear the streets of chicas and keep them clear, however, they just do an occasional walkthrough.
As far as my trip its was live as usual within the clubs. Not so much action outside. The smaller clubs are really feeling the crunch as I observed this round. Rumba was pack as well as Classico. After one was trying to pull the after 3 am crowd and classico was promoting them. Rumba doesn't charge so its a safe place for many Haitians and Dominicans on the grind. As a result, Rumba stays open a lot longer than usual. Classico is the choice for a lot of classy chicas that think they are too proud to walk the streets. Some chicas think if you pick them up from a club its more respectable and not make them a SW. They like the fact that you have to pay to get in. It separated the classes. Some chicas play both sides of the fence. There was no know problems with anyone walking a chica back to their rooms.
My apologies to the board I didn't mean to cause panic. After talking with Surfer yesterday; he pointed out how my statement may have been viewed. I have been coming to the DR for 5 to 15 day for the last year and a half. I have made 8 trips to Sosua not including this weekend. So I have seen the changes. The statement I made was not "Sosua is dead" or done. I said say "the Sosua as we know it". Its for the people that come here for the weekend on a regular. Anyone who has been coming here like me may or may no see the same changes. I was just passing the info being say by reliable locals. Mr Gogo and Camero have been trying to get our heads ready for possible changes. I now see and agree with their call for preparations. If you are new you will not notice anything. I also agree with Oakie when he states there a huge conflict of interest going on. Seeing how the employees of Rumba were working with the chicas and not the police. They could clear the streets of chicas and keep them clear, however, they just do an occasional walkthrough.
As far as my trip its was live as usual within the clubs. Not so much action outside. The smaller clubs are really feeling the crunch as I observed this round. Rumba was pack as well as Classico. After one was trying to pull the after 3 am crowd and classico was promoting them. Rumba doesn't charge so its a safe place for many Haitians and Dominicans on the grind. As a result, Rumba stays open a lot longer than usual. Classico is the choice for a lot of classy chicas that think they are too proud to walk the streets. Some chicas think if you pick them up from a club its more respectable and not make them a SW. They like the fact that you have to pay to get in. It separated the classes. Some chicas play both sides of the fence. There was no know problems with anyone walking a chica back to their rooms.Good post amigo. From day 1 I've been saying learn Spanish, venture out, and make a new adventure. Some guys have done this and are enjoying the DR to its fullest. Others have based their whole travel resume on Sosua so when they hear about any changes they lose their mnds. I appreciate and disect any info that is posted here because I have resources on the ground that can verify exactly what is happening.
Someone posted recently that the bar owners were instructed to not let girls in without an escort. Those with vision can see where this is going; They eventually will crack down on freelancers walking the street and force the girls to be coupled up. This is a good thing to me because it might bring back the GFE and force girls to lock into guaranteed money over a few days. Naturally the sport fuckers will hate this because they want the option of fucking 5 girls a day.
I really think all this shit is designed to get rid of the hardcore element (guys / girls) that is now prevelant in Sosua. They are trying to gain a little respectability and not be known internationally as the sport fucking Mecca now that Brazil is in transition.
Afterward the game I went to a walk to the beach (not the public beach); on the way back to PC about a block south of the ice cream shop 4 policias nationales pull up on two bikes. After a short talk and 100 pesos later I am on my way. This was the first time I was ever shaken down in Sosua (or anywhere else in the DR for that matter, this was my 4th trip); I probably could have got away with not paying them but I wasn't going to make a stand on principle for 100 pesos.
Sosua Observations:
4) I would never do them, especially there; but there are plenty of drugs available. I'm assuming the motorbike drivers aren't Al Pacino fans when they mention Tony Montana to me.
5) Some of the places had a only accompanied ladies signs, however best I could tell this was minimally enforced; if enforced at all.
Good report sounds like you get around very good with little problems.
Someone posted recently that the bar owners were instructed to not let girls in without an escort. Those with vision can see where this is going; They eventually will crack down on freelancers walking the street and force the girls to be coupled up. This is a good thing to me because it might bring back the GFE and force girls to lock into guaranteed money over a few days. Naturally the sport fuckers will hate this because they want the option of fucking 5 girls a day.
I really think all this shit is designed to get rid of the hardcore element (guys / girls) that is now prevelant in Sosua. They are trying to gain a little respectability and not be known internationally as the sport fucking Mecca now that Brazil is in transition.Mr. Gogo, I'm sure you remember that not too long ago, probably 4 yrs. , the girls had to be escorted into the bars / clubs. I remember girls that I didn't know running up, and grabbing my arm to walk them to Latino's, Classico's etc. , because the Policia would grab them up if they were walking alone. "The more things change, the more they remain the same". Peace.
Mr. Gogo, I'm sure you remember that not too long ago, probably 4 yrs. , the girls had to be escorted into the bars / clubs. I remember girls that I didn't know running up, and grabbing my arm to walk them to Latino's, Classico's etc. , because the Policia would grab them up if they were walking alone. "The more things change, the more they remain the same". Peace.Last weekend I've seen the sign posted on a few of bars escorted chicas only. I've also seen solo chicas walk in and out at their own leisure regardless of the sign being posted.
El Patron24
09-24-14, 20:08
en route to sosua on caribe i was texting with a non-pro dr cupid. Mid 20's, taking morning hair style classes and evening english clases. Lives with her mother in puerta plata. While on the bus she wanted to meet; we ended up meeting at the caribe stop in puerta plata (i had a ticket to sosua but figured it wouldn't hurt to get off the bus a little early).
We talked on skype frequently but this is the first time meeting. Paid $150 pesos for a taxi to her sister's apartment. Her sister (fluent in english) and her friend both work in the tourist industry and share an apartment. Not long afterwards her mother arrived, enjoyed talking and hanging out with them...Nice report!
Mr. Gogo, I'm sure you remember that not too long ago, probably 4 yrs. , the girls had to be escorted into the bars / clubs. I remember girls that I didn't know running up, and grabbing my arm to walk them to Latino's, Classico's etc. , because the Policia would grab them up if they were walking alone. "The more things change, the more they remain the same". Peace.Yeah I remember. Also I remember those weren't bad days because girls were offering deals and hiding out in our rooms fucking us silly LOL.
Member #4398
09-24-14, 22:33
Last weekend I've seen the sign posted on a few of bars escorted chicas only. I've also seen solo chicas walk in and out at their own leisure regardless of the sign being posted.All those restrictions are all nonsense. As far as I know prostitution continues and will continue to be legal. What are they going to do with the massive number of hookers the nonpros and single women that go clubbing and the bars? In the culture many women go to bars colmados discos after work to get a beer after work besides trying to hookup with locals or gringos. What are they going to do arrest them Arrest them? Also any place bar want the women inside cause that is what attract the guys in and we are the ones that sprnd the most. So then what they will do arrest them for going in without a escort? For prostitution? But it's legal. All this is going to do is give More business to pimps who will start scorting them. It's all temporary nonsense.
En route to Sosua on Caribe I was texting with a non-pro DR Cupid. Mid 20's, taking morning hair style classes and evening english clases. Lives with her mother in Puerta Plata. While on the bus she wanted to meet; we ended up meeting at the Caribe stop in Puerta Plata (I had a ticket to Sosua but figured it wouldn't hurt to get off the bus a little early).
We talked on Skype frequently but this is the first time meeting. Paid $150 pesos for a taxi to her sister's apartment. Her sister (fluent in english) and her friend both work in the tourist industry and share an apartment. Not long afterwards her mother arrived, enjoyed talking and hanging out with them for about 2 hours. She is just learning english so most of the conversation was in Spanish. Took in a goodbye kiss and continued on to Sosua. The apartment wasn't a terrible walk to the public taxi between Puerta Plata and Sosua (50 or 60 pesos, dirt cheap).
The taxi terminated right across from my hotel, Don Antonios. A few things I really like about the Hotel:
1) Its cheap, $38 a night.
2) Its relatively quiet, especially compared to the New Gardens of the world.
3) Its a close location to the strip.
4) Allen the bartender; however unfortunately he was on vacation during my stay.
5) Obie the manager.
Arrived around 9:00 or so, caught most of the Monday Night Football game at Rumbas. Afterwards I went to Club Meringue for a few pre-disco drinks. Went to the disco around 12:30 or so. I really didn't feel like pulling anyone (although the talent level here was the best, ration of 3-1 high quality to guys). This was the ratio on Monday, the ratio actually kept falling out of our favor as the week progressed. I didn't there on Thursday but by the looks of the line the quality was still there, but the number of guys greatly increased; I think the weekend crowd arrived.
As I wasn't looking to pull anything on Monday I did take down a few numbers from some that I thought were particularly attractive. Went to After One after the disco closed, keep in mind this was on a Monday Night. Total number of Guys - 4; normally this would be a good thing. But not including the staff that meant that there were 4 more guys than girls there. Not surprisingly the power there conveniently went out around 3:45 and they closed.
The next day I went back to Puerta Plata to hang out with english class chica for the afternoon. We went to one of those beach bars; the 4th or 5th one in from the start of the malecon (directly across we could see that statue on the island). Made in back in time for a Tuesday beach swim at Susoa Beach, had some dinner and hit the strip. Told one of the contacts from the disco the night before to meet me at the disco tonight. We did some dancing, actually a lot of dancing; and went back down to the Meringue bar for a after dance drink. Felt a good rapport with her, price was $2,500 for the night (2 sessions, night and morning).
After the morning session and a joint shower I went to open the safe and it wasn't responding. Being that the problem appeared electronic no amount of reading the instruction manual was going to help (which is just as well, as I think I locked that in the safe as well). Got dressed, thankfully Obie was down there and the reception, had the skeleton key; turns on the battery went dead. Had a ton of fun with her, wanted to meet her at the beach in the next afternoon, she agreed.
So I am back at my hotel after breakfast and a knock at the door. Who arrives? A girl from my last trip. She stayed a total of 2 days with me last trip, plus a day in Santo Domingo (even gave me a city tour on her motorbike). Apparently she saw me in the public taxi and took a guess that I would be staying at the same place. She comes in, wasn't really ready for a session but she makes the move and I couldn't help myself. She wanted to hang out later but I told her I already had plans. Percent chance I thought this would screw things up later. About the same percentage change of a naked selfie somehow ending up on the internet. After 1,100 pesos she is gone and I await heading to the beach.
11:30 arrived and I head to the beach, so naturally at 12:45 (Dominican time) she arrives; with her Sosua roomate on hand (henceforth to be referred to as the anchor). All in all it wasn't half bad, about 90 minutes or so; a few presidente grandes; some appetizers. We were at the Coral Reef bar, not a half bad place.
I had to run at 2:30 to catch a soccer match, we agreed to meet up later that night at the Disco. After the game I had to catch some afternoon sleep, had dinner and went to the Disco. I was still pretty tired and didn't plan to stay long, which was the economically feasible thing to do as she showed up with the anchor on hand. After one drink each we went back to the hotel for a night and morning session, same price ($2,500). After a joint shower we went for a New Garden breakfast together. She wants to meet again tonight (Thursday) but I said I may be too tired.
I'm off to meet my Puerta Plata gal, went directly to her house in Puerta Plata between her classes. Talked for a while, and had a fantastic session; so much better when you have known each other for a period of time beforehand. Afterwards we went to La Sirena, I took care of a $2,200 grocery shopping bill and we caught a taxi back to her place for another (and unfortunately last; for now anyway) session.
Back in Sosua I caught the Thursday night game (route) at Rumbas. My disco girl and the anchor arrived right at the end, told them I was too tired to do anything tonight. A lie, but it was still early and I didn't want to end up paying multiple rounds of drinks for the night. Afterward the game I went to a walk to the beach (not the public beach); on the way back to PC about a block south of the ice cream shop 4 policias nationales pull up on two bikes. After a short talk and 100 pesos later I am on my way. This was the first time I was ever shaken down in Sosua (or anywhere else in the DR for that matter, this was my 4th trip); I probably could have got away with not paying them but I wasn't going to make a stand on principle for 100 pesos. Went to Merengue bar and talked with Diane the bartender that has worked there since I started coming. Went across the street to Winners Circle to see what has happening, or I should say hear what's happening. Interesting place and music but no really my scene.
Afterwards (3:00) everyone was standing outside the Disco. I really wasn't feeling a session was in store, but ended up pulling a 19 yr old. Generally speaking I avoid them this young as it seems only to attach drama. There wasn't any drama but it wasn't much of a session, no real rapport; very mechanical. Had another morning session and it was the same. Paid her the $2,500 amount and went off to Santo Domingo for the remainder of the trip.
Santo Domingo report coming tomorrow.
Sosua Observations:
1) I really do not see how some of the restaurants are going to make it much longer. Not at this rate anyway, it seems like the only ones who go there are locals and they get next to nothing from the tourist crowd. This may change during weekends; I left on Friday.
2) For as much grief as the NYC crowd gets, I will say one thing in there defense. If it were not for them, at this point there would be no Sosua. Outside of the locals there were very very few people outside of this crowd that were there during the week.
3) It is so much nicer to establish a rapport with the girls before you arrive. If you want to sportf*ck it probably doesn't make much of a difference.
4) I would never do them, especially there; but there are plenty of drugs available. I'm assuming the motorbike drivers aren't Al Pacino fans when they mention Tony Montana to me.
5) Some of the places had a only accompanied ladies signs, however best I could tell this was minimally enforced; if enforced at all.
6) Not a lot of daytime activity, best bet there may be the beach. Or failing that head to a bar and find a seat; it won't take long before you attract attention.
7) I don't know how you guys can go here on multiple week excursions, I get worn out after less than a week.I enjoyed the report, with all the details. The only thing wrong is your handle. Shoe string Budget. Looks to me like you like to get around and that don't come cheap :)
Like you say, the normal restaurants are having a hard time, but after all, it's low season, hurricane season and damned hot right now. They will hang in till the crowd comes back.
I generally enjoy the NY crowd, they come for a good time and one on one they are very friendly and open. I never saw any unescorted chica signs, but maybe I just didn't notice.
I was out on the strip most days and every day saw some seriously hot young "early birds" that I would have taken if I was not busy. I can't comment on Classicos, or the beach, because I never got there, but Viagra Man "Sunshine" says it has gone upscale (VIP, bottle service crowd) since I was last there. He was trying to promote FOD, so I assume that's still happening. As for Tony Montana, I usually avoid him when I can, but on a ride back to the hotel, he had an impressive list of everything you could want.
Like you say, a week down there is a long time, but I'm always ready to go back. Coming out of that small airport on arrival is really sweet.
Charles Pooter
09-24-14, 23:07
Excellent report from ShoeStrngBgt. I would expect nothing less from a soccer fan.
This is the sort of stuff that is helpful to newbies wondering whether to take the plunge.
Grandnash84
09-25-14, 06:03
Throwback thrusday.
We give Cuba Dave and others far too much credit for influencing what goes on in places like Sosua. Indeed, I think some guys place far too much importance on their own abilities to influence what goes down. They complain, threaten not to go back, as if a monger can change anything except his own way to spend time.
What I see going down there reminds me of 2 friends I had who did business in the Bahamas. One owned the main taxi business in Freeport and had happily lived there for years. They changed the rules one day and decided not to renew his visa / work / stay permit whatever, and he was forced to sell his business. But there were no takers, because the local mafia politicians made it clear they didn't want any. He was forced to give everything up for basically nothing and move back, broke, to Canada.
The other guy, was sent to Nassau to boost the sales of a national soft drink brand, by reorganizing an old inefficient bottling plant. He took his wife there and bought a house to live there permanently. After two years, when the business was a success he too was given notice to leave.
So when I see the list of all the business people arrested, deported whatever, from Sosua, and they are all foreigners and victims of unpredictable "rule changes" it looks like an old game. The foreigners are making too much money, and the local pols and their friends want in. So they make the "rules". Get rid of the outsiders.
If they are really deporting these foreigners to "clean up" Sosua, and they really do get rid of the prostitution over the next couple years, I'll be happy to eat my words.
There's a bigger game going on here, and it's far above the heads of us mongers, no matter how much "intel" some guys think they have.
So in the meantime I share your great big "yawn", and will like you, continue my happy experiences there.This was the exact same thing the guys at the table were talking about in reference to the guy being deported and losing all of his investments. King Kong himself has retired yet sublease 2 condos. Anyone thinking about investing a lot of money in DR is crazy. Why don't you buy a house and move there is what my friends ask me. At any given time I'm headed to Delta for a one way to the US when a problem occurs. I won't be able to get a hundred thousand dollar house investment in my pocket or pass US Customs. No I will just buy memories.
This was the exact same thing the guys at the table were talking about in reference to the guy being deported and losing all of his investments. King Kong himself has retired yet sublease 2 condos. Anyone thinking about investing a lot of money in DR is crazy. Why don't you buy a house and move there is what my friends ask me. At any given time I'm headed to Delta for a one way to the US when a problem occurs. I won't be able to get a hundred thousand dollar house investment in my pocket or pass US Customs. No I will just buy memories.The Dominicans seem to have an endless supply of suckers who want to invest in the DR. It's like Charles said" they might not get you next week or next year but eventually they will get you". This is directed at the big time investor and the broke ex pat that can barely buy a beer.
I'm wondering what now happens to Sosua bay hotel, it such a beautiful piece of property. I'm guessing Armondo will fight tooth and nail to save his interest in the hotel. If you really think about it; that hotel is the center piece of Sosua. Any major development of Sosua and the beach will have to take Sosua bay into consideration. My point is you can't let it become some rundown eyesore.
This was the exact same thing the guys at the table were talking about in reference to the guy being deported and losing all of his investments. King Kong himself has retired yet sublease 2 condos. Anyone thinking about investing a lot of money in DR is crazy. Why don't you buy a house and move there is what my friends ask me. At any given time I'm headed to Delta for a one way to the US when a problem occurs. I won't be able to get a hundred thousand dollar house investment in my pocket or pass US Customs. No I will just buy memories.It's an old game, but my point was that at our level we don't have to be concerned with it.
I'm sure we could live down there quite comfortably without a problem.
Unless you are thinking of investing in a high profile money making tax free enterprise you can relax.
It's all about money.
Chief Justice
09-26-14, 05:15
The Dominicans seem to have an endless supply of suckers who want to invest in the DR. It's like Charles said" they might not get you next week or next year but eventually they will get you". This is directed at the big time investor and the broke ex pat that can barely buy a beer.
I'm wondering what now happens to Sosua bay hotel, it such a beautiful piece of property. I'm guessing Armondo will fight tooth and nail to save his interest in the hotel. If you really think about it; that hotel is the center piece of Sosua. Any major development of Sosua and the beach will have to take Sosua bay into consideration. My point is you can't let it become some rundown eyesore.I just came back from Sosua and I stayed at The Victorian House, according from someone in the 'know' Armondo didn't own the hotel. . key role player. YES. Owner. NO. The hotel is running as usual. They are also in the process of doing some major upgrades to the hotel from the rooms to the phone / video system. When I was there they opened up the bar under the restaurant as a Sports Bar. Really cozy and cool.
ForceSteeler
09-26-14, 08:53
Well guys I'm in DR right now and I can say everything is mostly exaggerated. The action is in rumbas and Classicos.
Right now it's a buyers market. Everything is extremely slow and the talent is extremely weak. This is my 15th time going to DR.
And I can tell you there's a lot of gutter trash. The really hot girls go to Classicos at night. I can tell you this is the first night in DR.
That I did not even bring a chica to my hotel. I don't know maybe I'm getting old or I have been to DR to many times. Or it's low season. But the talent is extremely wack. Nothing but fat and big belly. Some of these Dominican girls can make themselves look 100 x times better if they work out in the gym. DR women are extremely lazy when it comes to there body. They nothing like the Brazilians or Colombians.
Also a lot of these girls are quoting per hour? Anyways I will keep you guys posted on more info. I leave on Wednesday.
And also take my words with a grain of salt. If your a newbie. But for you veterans this has to be the worst dr trip ever. I only been here 3 days and I already want to go home.
Mr Enternational
09-26-14, 16:52
I don't know maybe I'm getting old or I have been to DR to many times. Or it's low season. But the talent is extremely wack. Nothing but fat and big belly. I would break out the psychology on them and when they gave me a price of x pesos, I would say you are too fat to get x pesos. The most I will give you x-y pesos.
Well guys I'm in DR right now and I can say everything is mostly exaggerated. The action is in rumbas and Classicos.
Right now it's a buyers market. Everything is extremely slow and the talent is extremely weak. This is my 15th time going to DR.
And I can tell you there's a lot of gutter trash. The really hot girls go to Classicos at night. I can tell you this is the first night in DR.
That I did not even bring a chica to my hotel. I don't know maybe I'm getting old or I have been to DR to many times. Or it's low season. But the talent is extremely wack. Nothing but fat and big belly. Some of these Dominican girls can make themselves look 100 x times better if they work out in the gym. DR women are extremely lazy when it comes to there body. They nothing like the Brazilians or Colombians.
Also a lot of these girls are quoting per hour? Anyways I will keep you guys posted on more info. I leave on Wednesday.
And also take my words with a grain of salt. If your a newbie. But for you veterans this has to be the worst dr trip ever. I only been here 3 days and I already want to go home.The worst trip ever wow! I was thinking about traveling back up to this weekend. I guess I will stay here on the south coast. Going to give La Romana and SP a run.
I would break out the psychology on them and when they gave me a price of x pesos, I would say you are too fat to get x pesos. The most I will give you x-y pesos.LOL does that work. Mr E I'm going to pick up my "don't ask me for shit" shirt today in Spanish.
Stopped by Bar Central last night about 9 PM and there was a sign saying that no un-escorted women were allowed inside. The place was literally empty which typically is not the case on a Friday night at this time. I asked the bouncer at the door what this was all about and was informed that they didn't want several women hanging around inside the bar all the time with a few males inside. I really couldn't understand him well and I'm assuming that the signage was not something initiated by the owner. Seems very strange as though pressure is being put on Bar Central by somebody, and why aren't there any signs like that posted at Rumbas. Anybody know what this is all about?
Stopped by Bar Central last night about 9 PM and there was a sign saying that no un-escorted women were allowed inside. The place was literally empty which typically is not the case on a Friday night at this time. I asked the bouncer at the door what this was all about and was informed that they didn't want several women hanging around inside the bar all the time with a few males inside. I really couldn't understand him well and I'm assuming that the signage was not something initiated by the owner. Seems very strange as though pressure is being put on Bar Central by somebody, and why aren't there any signs like that posted at Rumbas. Anybody know what this is all about?Just speculation as I am not there but could it be that the owner or manager is trying to take a pro-active stance to avoid winding up like some of his neighbors?
Just speculation as I am not there but could it be that the owner or manager is trying to take a pro-active stance to avoid winding up like some of his neighbors?If the owner of the bar has no business he will land up like his neighbors. I did notice a sign today at Rumbas but it said no arms, drugs, or inappropriate attire allowed. No mention of un-accompanied females allowed inside though.
Stopped by Bar Central last night about 9 PM and there was a sign saying that no un-escorted women were allowed inside. The place was literally empty which typically is not the case on a Friday night at this time. I asked the bouncer at the door what this was all about and was informed that they didn't want several women hanging around inside the bar all the time with a few males inside. I really couldn't understand him well and I'm assuming that the signage was not something initiated by the owner. Seems very strange as though pressure is being put on Bar Central by somebody, and why aren't there any signs like that posted at Rumbas. Anybody know what this is all about?This is one of the bars I was talking about previously however last week the sign was not in enforced. Bar central is a 95% Haiti puta chill zone. Nuff said. If any business gets messed with they will be the first.
ConquerorVal
09-28-14, 17:24
This is one of the bars I was talking about previously however last week the sign was not in enforced. Bar central is a 95% Haiti puta chill zone. Nuff said. If any business gets messed with they will be the first.Sounds reasonable, but if it is true it is too bad. I love the Haitians. They have been the highlights of my last two visits to Sosua.
Ipanema Carioca
09-28-14, 19:30
I just came back from Sosua and I stayed at The Victorian House, according from someone in the 'know' Armondo didn't own the hotel. . key role player. YES. Owner. NO. The hotel is running as usual. They are also in the process of doing some major upgrades to the hotel from the rooms to the phone / video system. When I was there they opened up the bar under the restaurant as a Sports Bar. Really cozy and cool.Sosua Bay, Topacio Azul Bay, or Victorian House, depending on who is leasing the property from "Armando" has been talking about remodeling for the last 5 years. Just Google the 3 names and you'll get an idea of that property's bullshit. Guests have been evicted in the past without notice, when he govt. Has shut it down and guests had to find another hotel without a refund. You get no refund when you pay cash. The credit card fee is 18% to discourage using them. When I did stay there I use a credit card so I could report them and get a refund if they closed while I'm there or if service sucked. Service sucked because of water issues. You either had no water, cold water or a water leak. Also the bathtubs don't drain well, so you're standing in muck while showering.
Security is also weak. The girls know this, because many have been through there. The security at night is in the lobby, which is a long walk to your room in another building. If you have a crazy girl in your room, there is no phone to call for security. A taxi driver once came to my room during the day unannounced to inquire if I needed a taxi to the airport. Wrong day dude, but who let you walk to my door? I could've had a beef with this guy and now he's at my door. My final word on the Victorian House, you can do better. So stay at your own risk. Plus the staff is lazy. Very lazy. And why did they close the big gate that's directly in front of the Victorian House to have you walk from the lobby and across the property yo your room. Arriving or leaving, that's a long walk, either with your luggage or with a chica. I am usually suspect of someone who comes on ISG to pump up a hotel or other business. Warning people is one thing but pumping it up is another. It's either a hotel employee or someone getting an accommodation discount who is marketing a rotten hotel.
Sosua Bay, Topacio Azul Bay, or Victorian House, depending on who is leasing the property from "Armando" has been talking about remodeling for the last 5 years. Just Google the 3 names and you'll get an idea of that property's bullshit. Guests have been evicted in the past without notice, when he govt. Has shut it down and guests had to find another hotel without a refund. You get no refund when you pay cash. The credit card fee is 18% to discourage using them. When I did stay there I use a credit card so I could report them and get a refund if they closed while I'm there or if service sucked. Service sucked because of water issues. You either had no water, cold water or a water leak. Also the bathtubs don't drain well, so you're standing in muck while showering.
Security is also weak. The girls know this, because many have been through there. The security at night is in the lobby, which is a long walk to your room in another building. If you have a crazy girl in your room, there is no phone to call for security. A taxi driver once came to my room during the day unannounced to inquire if I needed a taxi to the airport. Wrong day dude, but who let you walk to my door? I could've had a beef with this guy and now he's at my door. My final word on the Victorian House, you can do better. So stay at your own risk. Plus the staff is lazy. Very lazy. And why did they close the big gate that's directly in front of the Victorian House to have you walk from the lobby and across the property yo your room. Arriving or leaving, that's a long walk, either with your luggage or with a chica. I am usually suspect of someone who comes on ISG to pump up a hotel or other business. Warning people is one thing but pumping it up is another. It's either a hotel employee or someone getting an accommodation discount who is marketing a rotten hotel.I stayed there again a couple of months ago:
-When I arrived they had no record of my reservation.
-One of the clerks told me "just a minute". An hour later after waiting in the big lobby I walked to the desk and asked what was up. They looked at me as if they'd never seen me before. I could have sat in the lobby for 7 hours without any help.
-They took my ID to "photocopy". Then they "forgot" to return it to me. Twice.
-The walk from the lobby to my room on the sub-basement level was not too much shorter than it would have been to walk to Classicos!
-I cut open my big toe badly on one of the drainage grates near my room.
But, hey!. Nice view of the Bay, huh?
Parkinsons
09-29-14, 02:44
Take it for what it's worth. Not plugging a business for any personal gain. I stayed at the Hotel Sea Breeze last week. I didn't have a reservation and waltzed right in past 2 am. For US $40 it gets the job done. Hot water, air conditioning, cable tv. Security wise. They have a gate too where I could park my rental car behind. They did a reasonably good job at keeping the girls' cedulas. First morning I just sent the girl home but they wouldn't release her cedula until I came out to where they could see me to give the ok. The only thing is you have to pay for the day upfront. Wasn't a problem for me, they didn't place a hold on my credit card or anything. And if the first night didn't work out, I could always leave. Sure you don't get any picturesque views, nor do you get any sea breeze, AT ALL.
Take it for what it's worth. Not plugging a business for any personal gain. I stayed at the Hotel Sea Breeze last week. I didn't have a reservation and waltzed right in past 2 am. For US $40 it gets the job done. Hot water, air conditioning, cable tv. Security wise. They have a gate too where I could park my rental car behind. They did a reasonably good job at keeping the girls' cedulas. First morning I just sent the girl home but they wouldn't release her cedula until I came out to where they could see me to give the ok. The only thing is you have to pay for the day upfront. Wasn't a problem for me, they didn't place a hold on my credit card or anything. And if the first night didn't work out, I could always leave. Sure you don't get any picturesque views, nor do you get any sea breeze, AT ALL.I stayed there a few years ago and Jihad was very nice. The safe wasn't a wall safe it was one of those cheap mobile safes. The problem I had was that they paid too much attention to the girls I brought in, they were practically slobbing on themselves. I like a hotel where they mind their biz more. It's a basic place, but I would rather pay a little more and have a better safe and breakfast. Respectfully speaking Sir but you should always get in the habit of walking girls out, it protects the guests and the property while ensuing that you are safe. The last thing anyone needs is a their turned loose that you brought in and didn't supervise properly.
Ipanema Carioca
09-29-14, 10:15
I stayed there again a couple of months ago:
-When I arrived they had no record of my reservation.
-One of the clerks told me "just a minute". An hour later after waiting in the big lobby I walked to the desk and asked what was up. They looked at me as if they'd never seen me before. I could have sat in the lobby for 7 hours without any help.
-They took my ID to "photocopy". Then they "forgot" to return it to me. Twice.
-The walk from the lobby to my room on the sub-basement level was not too much shorter than it would have been to walk to Classicos!
-I cut open my big toe badly on one of the drainage grates near my room.
But, hey!. Nice view of the Bay, huh?Lou, it's a shame that a hotel with that view is so lame. The girls behind the desk are complete airheads. They have no professional hotel skills. When at the Terra Linda and other hotels on that level you get competency. Even the male help sit around the lobby in uniform and lounge as if they were the guest. And that sorry restaurant that sells so-called New Orleans creole food, who thought of that. And when the place is suppose to close at 11 am it closes at 10:30 pm. Like I said, I love the view of the bay from the room, but it's not cool when the water in the hoe is off half the day without warning, causing you and the girl you had over to sit around the room funky. Then i had to walk to that Classico distance funky to the front desk to see all the staff having a conversation about none hotel related stuff. When I told on of them that the water is off, the said it's on. WTF, so I walked to the front desk to lie to you about the water?
Take it for what it's worth. Not plugging a business for any personal gain. I stayed at the Hotel Sea Breeze last week. I didn't have a reservation and waltzed right in past 2 am. For US $40 it gets the job done. Hot water, air conditioning, cable tv. Security wise. They have a gate too where I could park my rental car behind. They did a reasonably good job at keeping the girls' cedulas. First morning I just sent the girl home but they wouldn't release her cedula until I came out to where they could see me to give the ok. The only thing is you have to pay for the day upfront. Wasn't a problem for me, they didn't place a hold on my credit card or anything. And if the first night didn't work out, I could always leave. Sure you don't get any picturesque views, nor do you get any sea breeze, AT ALL.I thought the Sea Breeze was straight it was my first hotel. I went there back to back. However 1st time at Europa for the same price and it was a rap. SB was too open and the layout is like a college dorm.
Tempoecorto
09-30-14, 00:58
Sure you don't get any picturesque views, nor do you get any sea breeze, AT ALL.I loved that. Classy tongue in cheek!
I stayed there again a couple of months ago:
-When I arrived they had no record of my reservation.
-One of the clerks told me "just a minute". An hour later after waiting in the big lobby I walked to the desk and asked what was up. They looked at me as if they'd never seen me before. I could have sat in the lobby for 7 hours without any help.
-They took my ID to "photocopy". Then they "forgot" to return it to me. Twice.
-The walk from the lobby to my room on the sub-basement level was not too much shorter than it would have been to walk to Classicos!
-I cut open my big toe badly on one of the drainage grates near my room.
But, hey!. Nice view of the Bay, huh?Hello Lou,
I am one of the people who run Victorian House. I apologize for the mix up about your reservation. It sounds like because they did not have a reservation, they put you in a free room on the bottom level.
Could you send me an email [Email address deleted by Admin] I would like to address your concerns and figure out how we can prevent this from happening in the future.
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Sosua Bay, Topacio Azul Bay, or Victorian House, depending on who is leasing the property from "Armando" has been talking about remodeling for the last 5 years. Just Google the 3 names and you'll get an idea of that property's bullshit. Guests have been evicted in the past without notice, when he govt. Has shut it down and guests had to find another hotel without a refund. You get no refund when you pay cash. The credit card fee is 18% to discourage using them. When I did stay there I use a credit card so I could report them and get a refund if they closed while I'm there or if service sucked. Service sucked because of water issues. You either had no water, cold water or a water leak. Also the bathtubs don't drain well, so you're standing in muck while showering.
Security is also weak. The girls know this, because many have been through there. The security at night is in the lobby, which is a long walk to your room in another building. If you have a crazy girl in your room, there is no phone to call for security. A taxi driver once came to my room during the day unannounced to inquire if I needed a taxi to the airport. Wrong day dude, but who let you walk to my door? I could've had a beef with this guy and now he's at my door. My final word on the Victorian House, you can do better. So stay at your own risk. Plus the staff is lazy. Very lazy. And why did they close the big gate that's directly in front of the Victorian House to have you walk from the lobby and across the property yo your room. Arriving or leaving, that's a long walk, either with your luggage or with a chica. I am usually suspect of someone who comes on ISG to pump up a hotel or other business. Warning people is one thing but pumping it up is another. It's either a hotel employee or someone getting an accommodation discount who is marketing a rotten hotel.Hello Ipanema,
I am a part of the company that runs Victorian House. We never have anybody come on any message board and post without properly identifying themselves as affiliated with the Hotel.
The hotel tax in the Dominican republic is actually 23%. You can google this to confirm. We charge 18% when using a credit card. You normally find a charge between 18% and 28% when using a credit card in a hotel in the Dominican Republic. Some places waive this charge when paying cash.
Since we opened up the original reception, we added guest services to help guest with their bags to their room.
I just realized that I am not allowed to post an email address. Please send me an email. I strive to not have an unsatisfied customer and would like to address your concerns.
Looking back at my latest trip a couple weeks ago, I was thinking about the "changes" guys are reporting, and why I still go back.
First of all it's an overall environment where mongers are generally welcomed, and that's a big deal.
Hotel owners, bar and restaurant owners and staff are happy to see you there, spending your money, and will go out of their way to keep you coming back, even though you are there with a chica one third your age, they still treat you like a VIP.
Cops don't hassle you on the street, they seem to have their own agenda (crowd control, public decency, drunkenness, unhelmeted motoconcho drivers etc) and the average monger is not on their list as long as he behaves well. If you drive you may get scammed by the cops, but it's usually minor and a few pesos out of your pocket.
Of all the places I have looked for sex, Sosua is unique in enabling and facilitating my experience. A great choice of cheap women, cheap hotels, friendly faces, its all there.
They could easily reverse all this.
We have all seen formerly wide open places that got "cleaned up". All of a sudden there's a disapproval, a different vibe and eyes watching you, and you feel vulnerable and at risk.
If Sosua is going to change, it could be quite easy, and it would be the mongers who first get to feel they are not welcome.
I don't think they are ready to do that.
Of all the places I have looked for sex, Sosua is unique in enabling and facilitating my experience. A great choice of cheap women, cheap hotels, friendly faces, its all there.
Good report.
Ipanema Carioca
09-30-14, 21:56
Hello Ipanema,
I am a part of the company that runs Victorian House. We never have anybody come on any message board and post without properly identifying themselves as affiliated with the Hotel.
The hotel tax in the Dominican republic is actually 23%. You can google this to confirm. We charge 18% when using a credit card. You normally find a charge between 18% and 28% when using a credit card in a hotel in the Dominican Republic. Some places waive this charge when paying cash.
Since we opened up the original reception, we added guest services to help guest with their bags to their room.
I just realized that I am not allowed to post an email address. Please send me an email. I strive to not have an unsatisfied customer and would like to address your concerns.If the standard hotel tax is 23%, you charge 18% and several other Sosua hotels I know charge 8% to use a credit card, guest what, you're too high for Sosua. Plus you never addressed the other issues I mentioned. Besides, your rooms are outdated and your television are old and do not work. On a rainy day I might want to chill for a few hours in the privacy of my room watch sports or the news, and your 1975 RCA ain't allowing that to happen. Apparently you folks at the Victorian House do not believe in upgrades. Yeah you might have a remodeled bath room or two, but maybe two. And most important, your security sucks. One day a security guard came to my door during the day I was checking in to tell me two skanks who saw me exit the taxi at the gate want to see me. What kinda security is that?
That property was a great place when it had the side door on the beach open, all you can eat buffet breakfast and all the bars open, especially bar outside the lobby. Now that property makes false promises about upgrades. That place will never be the same. I first stayed there in 2010, and it has gone down hill. All the Victorian House depends on is the view of the bay. But it's very close to being like that abandoned resort next to Charmicos that you can see from Victorian House. One day I was looking across the bay and I said that will soon be Victorian House, abandoned and empty.
Looking back at my latest trip a couple weeks ago, I was thinking about the "changes" guys are reporting, and why I still go back.
First of all it's an overall environment where mongers are generally welcomed, and that's a big deal.
Hotel owners, bar and restaurant owners and staff are happy to see you there, spending your money, and will go out of their way to keep you coming back, even though you are there with a chica one third your age, they still treat you like a VIP.
Cops don't hassle you on the street, they seem to have their own agenda (crowd control, public decency, drunkenness, unhelmeted motoconcho drivers etc) and the average monger is not on their list as long as he behaves well. If you drive you may get scammed by the cops, but it's usually minor and a few pesos out of your pocket.
Of all the places I have looked for sex, Sosua is unique in enabling and facilitating my experience. A great choice of cheap women, cheap hotels, friendly faces, its all there.
They could easily reverse all this.
.I totally agree! The same go for BC.
I enjoy planning my trips but the great thing about Sosua it is not necessary. It is an automatic good time. Women will find and fuck you with no effort. Everywhere I go in Sosua I feel comfortable. It is truly a different world.
I totally agree! The same go for BC.
Member #4398
10-01-14, 02:15
Well guys I'm in DR right now and I can say everything is mostly exaggerated. The action is in rumbas and Classicos.
Right now it's a buyers market. Everything is extremely slow and the talent is extremely weak. This is my 15th time going to DR.
And I can tell you there's a lot of gutter trash. The really hot girls go to Classicos at night. I can tell you this is the first night in DR.
That I did not even bring a chica to my hotel. I don't know maybe I'm getting old or I have been to DR to many times. Or it's low season. But the talent is extremely wack. Nothing but fat and big belly. Some of these Dominican girls can make themselves look 100 x times better if they work out in the gym. DR women are extremely lazy when it comes to there body. They nothing like the Brazilians or Colombians.
Also a lot of these girls are quoting per hour? Anyways I will keep you guys posted on more info. I leave on Wednesday.
And also take my words with a grain of salt. If your a newbie. But for you veterans this has to be the worst dr trip ever. I only been here 3 days and I already want to go home.Maybe they are becoming more and more Americans.
They claim that prostitution clothes tourist areas in the province of Puerto Plata.
I read this article in Puerto Plata Digital, were they said most of the foreigners who owned business were pimps. This was my response to that article:
Don't blame the establishments, because you would have to blame the country. I have been to Sosua and other parts of the Dominican Republic. When you have an environment that doesn't promote any kind of advancement for it's people this is what you get. Now you tell these women that they can't make any kind of income. Most of these women will tell you that they didn't choose this kind of work. But it is better than starving. So what they will do is go to another part of the DR and start it all over again. What they wanted in Sosua and Cabarete is the cruise ship income. But that won't replace the income lost in the long run. Most of these women were lucky to make $50 dollars a week. They called those men pimps, but what are they called in Santiago, Santo Domingo & Punta Cana. This was very stupid because the person who started this crackdown didn't have a plan for the women who are now basically unemployed, no matter what their positions were. No matter what kind a work a person is doing, I am a firm believer in not taking food off a persons plate. Especially if that person might have a child at home.
Maybe they are becoming more and more Americans.I wish that was the case then we can justify making them clock in and out. Short sessions no full pay. I think it was Mr Gogo that explain this before. The street chicas in SD ran there country cousins out of Sosua and back to Puerto Plata. The chicas in PP didn't play the time game. They gave you the GFE and stay with you the hold time you were on vacation. When SD chica took over, they played the game like they do in there hood. Quick fucks for quick money. I use to be 2 hours short or all night. The chicas have recently add the 1 hour instead of 2 hour trying to be smart. If I am in DR and a chica is asking how much time you want, I know its more than likely she is from SD. I don't recall BC, LR, or SP ever asking that question.
They claim that prostitution clothes tourist areas in the province of Puerto Plata.
I read this article in Puerto Plata Digital, were they said most of the foreigners who owned business were pimps. This was my response to that article:
Don't blame the establishments, because you would have to blame the country. I have been to Sosua and other parts of the Dominican Republic. When you have an environment that doesn't promote any kind of advancement for it's people this is what you get. Now you tell these women that they can't make any kind of income. Most of these women will tell you that they didn't choose this kind of work. But it is better than starving. So what they will do is go to another part of the DR and start it all over again. What they wanted in Sosua and Cabarete is the cruise ship income. But that won't replace the income lost in the long run. Most of these women were lucky to make $50 dollars a week. They called those men pimps, but what are they called in Santiago, Santo Domingo & Punta Cana. This was very stupid because the person who started this crackdown didn't have a plan for the women who are now basically unemployed, no matter what their positions were. No matter what kind a work a person is doing, I am a firm believer in not taking food off a persons plate. Especially if that person might have a child at home.If a foreigner owned a business in the DR and in "pimping" chicas, HE is only follow a DR tradition that has been (and still being played) long before HE got there. 3 of the 4 casas have open back up in BC like they have never closed by Dominicans. Its sounds like they just want to justify Dee Bowing foreign investors assesses.
ForceSteeler
10-02-14, 14:04
October 2014 Sosua full report.
Hey guys just came back from Sosua Yesterday I got a 20% deal with jetblue on the dunkin donuts special so I said what the hell let me head to Sosua, it only cost me $325 total for round trip airfare and I stay for about 5 days, Stayed at the world famous New Gardens.
And I want to give you guys details on what's going on. Now you hear all the news and rumors on crackdowns and some of what you hear is true but its overly exaggerated. I can tell you that things are definitely very slow. Not to many mongers are coming to Sosua.
Anymore. But that is a good thing because the chica price has drop right back to the golden era (Pre 2011). Most Chicas will gladly accepted 1500 pesos or less. The days of waiting on a 3000-4000 peso sucker are pretty over now.
You have a few hardcore putas that charge by the hour but you can talk them down or avoid them like the plaque. All the Action is in Rumbas in the day time and then around 12:00 at night they head to Classicos.
Now Classicos is back in full effect and every night I went to Classicos it was packed with Chicas and the Chicas are more beautiful. Only the Hot 8's and 9's are willing to pay the 200 peso entrance fee. All the gutter trash hood rats hand out around rumbas and outside of Classicos.
Also Classicos brings out alot of non-pros (weekend puta), These girls feel more comfortable going to a nightclub like Classicos then going to a bar like Dlatinos, I guess alot of them avoid Dlatinos because they don't want to feel like a Street Walker. So if your looking for a Stunna Thursday night-Saturday night is jampack. 10 Girls to every 1 dude. But like I said in my earlier post, I talk to alot of hotel and business owners, and things are much more slower then normal. I guess the word got out that Sosua is going throw a crackdown.
And most mongers are heading to other places like Costa Rica, Asia, etc. So if your going to Sosua right now is a buyers market right now. But sadly I use to go to DR 5 times a year, now I can only see my self going there once a year. The Dominican Chicas Performance.
Wise are no match to the Brazilians and the Columbian Chicas.
October 2014 Sosua full report.
Hey guys just came back from Sosua Yesterday I got a 20% deal with jetblue on the dunkin donuts special so I said what the hell let me head to Sosua, it only cost me $325 total for round trip airfare and I stay for about 5 days, Stayed at the world famous New Gardens.
.20% discount thru DD?
ForceSteeler
10-02-14, 20:08
20% discount thru DD?http://www.jetblue.com/dunkin/
The Sale is pretty much over now. It ended September 1. All you had to do was buy a cup of coffee and get the promo code. Or you could of bought the promo code on ebay for $5. 00. It was a good sale. Got my tickets for $325.00 RoundTrip, which was a steal. Reminds me of the good all days (Pre 2011) when Jetblue use to fly to POP 2 twice a day (Day and NightTime Flights). I was paying under $300 to fly to POP.
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If the standard hotel tax is 23%, you charge 18% and several other Sosua hotels I know charge 8% to use a credit card, guest what, you're too high for Sosua. Plus you never addressed the other issues I mentioned. Besides, your rooms are outdated and your television are old and do not work. On a rainy day I might want to chill for a few hours in the privacy of my room watch sports or the news, and your 1975 RCA ain't allowing that to happen. Apparently you folks at the Victorian House do not believe in upgrades. Yeah you might have a remodeled bath room or two, but maybe two. And most important, your security sucks. One day a security guard came to my door during the day I was checking in to tell me two skanks who saw me exit the taxi at the gate want to see me. What kinda security is that?
That property was a great place when it had the side door on the beach open, all you can eat buffet breakfast and all the bars open, especially bar outside the lobby. Now that property makes false promises about upgrades. That place will never be the same. I first stayed there in 2010, and it has gone down hill. All the Victorian House depends on is the view of the bay. But it's very close to being like that abandoned resort next to Charmicos that you can see from Victorian House. One day I was looking across the bay and I said that will soon be Victorian House, abandoned and empty.I stayed at Victoria House about six years ago when they had the buffet breakfast and the side entrance but recall "issues" with the place back than as well. If they had their act together they could do a much better business but are behind the times compared with the other properties in town. Also I found it kind of lame for a representative of the hotel to post on this Site which I thought wasn't allowed to be done, perhaps somebody can clarify this?
Ipanema Carioca
10-03-14, 05:40
I stayed at Victoria House about six years ago when they had the buffet breakfast and the side entrance but recall "issues" with the place back than as well. If they had their act together they could do a much better business but are behind the times compared with the other properties in town. Also I found it kind of lame for a representative of the hotel to post on this Site which I thought wasn't allowed to be done, perhaps somebody can clarify this?The Victorian House is the shadiest place to stay in Sosua. I remember complaints from the employees who weren't paid. Then the electricity was taken off the city grid for stealing power which caused the lights to go off and on at night.
The biggest ripoffs are those contract memberships. For $3,000 down you can get rooms for $40 a night. That's if they are not shut down. There are fellas who paid 5 years ago with a promise of $25 a night. Well the place was shut down and the dummies lost their money. The Victorian House is still running that game.
October 2014 Sosua full report.
Hey guys just came back from Sosua Yesterday
You have a few hardcore putas that charge by the hour but you can talk them down or avoid them like the plaque. All the Action is in Rumbas in the day time and then around 12:00 at night they head to Classicos.
Now Classicos is back in full effect and every night I went to Classicos it was packed with Chicas and the Chicas are more beautiful. Only the Hot 8's and 9's are willing to pay the 200 peso entrance fee. All the gutter trash hood rats hand out around rumbas and outside of Classicos.
Also Classicos brings out alot of non-pros (weekend puta), These girls feel more comfortable going to a nightclub like Classicos then going to a bar like Dlatinos, I guess alot of them avoid Dlatinos because they don't want to feel like a Street Walker. .You and I concluded The same rationale. To add since a lot of these chicas only come out after 11:00; they are not your Normal Hardcore trying to accumulate as many dicks per night as they can. They are less likely to run deceptions and tricks in your hotel. Except leche papa leche. My man fresh had to a chica who really didn't have a game plan on how much she wanted to charge. She was nice sexy Blanca chica from Santa Domingo. She desperately needed to make $300. Fresh gave her 3000 pesos. The next day she wanted to repeat with him 1500 and a ride to SD.
They are less likely to run deceptions and tricks in your hotel. Except leche papa leche. Papa means "Pope". So take it as a benediction.
I have run into many girls in Sosua who were nice girls once they got to know you. However they run into guys who are sometimes ass holes. I was low on cash once and a SW I had earlier came by early morning for a freebie when she learned my cash was done. I was going home at 1:00. It was a nice send off.
You and I concluded The same rationale. To add since a lot of these chicas only come out after 11:00; they are not your Normal Hardcore trying to accumulate as many dicks per night as they can. They are less likely to run deceptions and tricks in your hotel. Except leche papa leche. My man fresh had to a chica who really didn't have a game plan on how much she wanted to charge. She was nice sexy Blanca chica from Santa Domingo. She desperately needed to make $300. Fresh gave her 3000 pesos. The next day she wanted to repeat with him 1500 and a ride to SD.
SavePros321
10-03-14, 19:14
Also I found it kind of lame for a representative of the hotel to post on this Site which I thought wasn't allowed to be done, perhaps somebody can clarify this?Apartment owners and hotel owners post to this site (ISG) all the time. There is no restriction against it.
SavePros321
10-03-14, 19:26
October 2014 Sosua full report.
Hey guys just came back from Sosua Yesterday I got a 20% deal with jetblue on the dunkin donuts special so I said what the hell let me head to Sosua, it only cost me $325 total for round trip airfare and I stay for about 5 days, Stayed at the world famous New Gardens.
And I want to give you guys details on what's going on. Now you hear all the news and rumors on crackdowns and some of what you hear is true but its overly exaggerated. I can tell you that things are definitely very slow. Not to many mongers are coming to Sosua.
Anymore. But that is a good thing because the chica price has drop right back to the golden era (Pre 2011). Most Chicas will gladly accepted 1500 pesos or less. The days of waiting on a 3000-4000 peso sucker are pretty over now.
You have a few hardcore putas that charge by the hour but you can talk them down or avoid them like the plaque. All the Action is in Rumbas in the day time and then around 12:00 at night they head to Classicos.
Now Classicos is back in full effect and every night I went to Classicos it was packed with Chicas and the Chicas are more beautiful. Only the Hot 8's and 9's are willing to pay the 200 peso entrance fee. All the gutter trash hood rats hand out around rumbas and outside of Classicos.
Also Classicos brings out alot of non-pros (weekend puta), These girls feel more comfortable going to a nightclub like Classicos then going to a bar like Dlatinos, I guess alot of them avoid Dlatinos because they don't want to feel like a Street Walker. So if your looking for a Stunna Thursday night-Saturday night is jampack. 10 Girls to every 1 dude. But like I said in my earlier post, I talk to alot of hotel and business owners, and things are much more slower then normal. I guess the word got out that Sosua is going throw a crackdown.
Great report ForceSteeler. I wish I could get airfare to the DR for anything less than $600. You East Coast / Florida boys got it made.
Now Classicos is back in full effect and every night I went to Classicos it was packed with Chicas and the Chicas are more beautiful. Only the Hot 8's and 9's are willing to pay the 200 peso entrance fee. All the gutter trash hood rats hand out around rumbas and outside of Classicos.
This was exactly what I was trying to tell the other poster on here who was complaining that making chicas pay an entrance fee would somehow deter chicas from coming and turn Classicos into a sausage-fest. As you (as well as I) have witnessed the exact opposite is true. The entrance fee lures in the diamonds and keeps out the riff-raff.
I can tell you that things are definitely very slow. Not to many mongers are coming to Sosua.
Really? Not even the weekend ballers are showing up? I guess they've all finally maxed out their credit cards and student loan borrowing limits, LOL (just joking).
But seriously, google "U6" :D
This is all good news to me. I am heading back down South (South America, that is) in a couple of weeks, but I may need to set up a quick side trip to my old stomping ground Sosua!
Charles Pooter
10-03-14, 19:50
Apartment owners and hotel owners post to this site (ISG) all the time. There is no restriction against it.Nor should there be. So long as they explain their involvement honestly and clearly, it is a useful service announcement to give mongers information on which to base decisions.
For example, it would have been helpful if the management of FoD had explained their new pricing policy on here instead of leaving us to post conflicting experiences and assumptions which made them look shifty.
Of course, if the person keeps spamming the board with repeated info, they should desist and take out a paid advertisement. If they are actually getting business from this board it might be tactful to do that anyway. Jackson might then be more tolerant of advertising in the "posts" section.
Most Chicas will gladly accepted 1500 pesos or less. The days of waiting on a 3000-4000 peso sucker are pretty over now.
That's funny cause I've been reading another forum where a bunch of SIMPS brag about giving this chic 4,000 pesos, almost like its a bargain.
I was low on cash once and a SW I had earlier came by early morning for a freebie when she learned my cash was done. I was going home at 1:00. It was a nice send off.That is good service.
ForceSteeler
10-04-14, 08:27
That's funny cause I've been reading another forum where a bunch of SIMPS brag about giving this chic 4,000 pesos, almost like its a bargain.Its alot of these newbie simps that think they more they pay and flex for a chick, the more they will fall in love. But right now with Classicos in effect and the chicas having to pay a entrance fee, they cannot afford to leave the club empty handed and wait on a 3000 peso.
Sucker especially when its low season, They will gladly take 1500-2000 pesos, its much better then leaving the club empty handed and your losing 200 pesos every night.
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Search flights within travel dates listed above...ForceSteeler how were you still able to use the discount code for DR? Its funny I always saw the Jetblue promotions at DD but never bothered to pay attention to them.
That's funny cause I've been reading another forum where a bunch of SIMPS brag about giving this chic 4,000 pesos, almost like its a bargain.Nice photos. Thanks for reminding me why I love Dominicanas more than any other latinas. Now I've got to go spend more money to go back, LOL.
That's funny cause I've been reading another forum where a bunch of SIMPS brag about giving this chic 4,000 pesos, almost like its a bargain.We call her MISS 4 K!!
Trust me, she gets that amount every night from every guy she goes with, she won't go for less because she doesn't have to. My boy gets with her on every trip and HE says in addition to her being good in bed, she is a very cool person to hang with. She has some serious WU sponsors as well, there is one dude who drives a viper who wifes her up for months at a time.
Three of us headed to Sosua the next day Fresh, Justice and myself. We took Fresh's Hondo Accord. It took us 4100 pesos to fill the car up. I told them fuck that we are taking the bus next time. It took us approximately three hours to get there. We arrived about 7 o'clock and headed straight to hotel the Europa. $40 per night and $75 for the joining room. I was feeling tall and chocolate that night from the chica I didn't hit ayer. I didn't session the first chica but she did a accompanied me to my room. She saw my bag of clothes and immediately asked me for some. (yeah I slipped) I let her try on a couple outfits because she had a nice chocalate body. I went to get some ice for the Ciroc and she followed me to the front desk. The look the receptionist gave me told me everything about this puta. At the front desk I told the receptionist to give her back her I'd card and told the puta she can leave. When she left; the receptionist told me I did a smart thing. I still had a strong taste for chocolate. So I found me one little Haitian spinner. She made the 1500 peso Max for all night and she also left with a departing gift. Doesn't the first girl kill those two dress. I like them classy sometimes.
ForceSteeler
10-05-14, 01:46
We call her MISS 4 K!!
Trust me, she gets that amount every night from every guy she goes with, she won't go for less because she doesn't have to. My boy gets with her on every trip and HE says in addition to her being good in bed, she is a very cool person to hang with. She has some serious WU sponsors as well, there is one dude who drives a viper who wifes her up for months at a time.4,000 Pesos? That's almost a hundred dollars, You can get 9 and 10's dime chicks in Columbia in Casas fucking for $20.00. No way I can pay a Dominican Puta 4000 pesos!.
The Most I ever paid was a Brazilian Girl I met below, She wanted 300 Brazil Reals ($122) a Night. One of the baddest girls I ever slept with in my life. She was worth it. Top 5 girls I ever fucked, and I had sex with hundreds of women.
BrasilSoccer0
10-05-14, 02:49
GM,
You got nice taste man. Wow. I guess Haitian women are also as pretty as DR women.
Three of us headed to Sosua the next day Fresh, Justice and myself. We took Fresh's Hondo Accord. It took us 4100 pesos to fill the car up. I told them fuck that we are taking the bus next time. It took us approximately three hours to get there. We arrived about 7 o'clock and headed straight to hotel the Europa. $40 per night and $75 for the joining room. I was feeling tall and chocolate that night from the chica I didn't hit ayer. I didn't session the first chica but she did a accompanied me to my room. She saw my bag of clothes and immediately asked me for some. (yeah I slipped) I let her try on a couple outfits because she had a nice chocalate body. I went to get some ice for the Ciroc and she followed me to the front desk. The look the receptionist gave me told me everything about this puta. At the front desk I told the receptionist to give her back her I'd card and told the puta she can leave. When she left; the receptionist told me I did a smart thing. I still had a strong taste for chocolate. So I found me one little Haitian spinner. She made the 1500 peso Max for all night and she also left with a departing gift. Doesn't the first girl kill those two dress. I like them classy sometimes.
4,000 Pesos? That's almost a hundred dollars, You can get 9 and 10's dime chicks in Columbia in Casas fucking for $20.00. No way I can pay a Dominican Puta 4000 pesos!.
The Most I ever paid was a Brazilian Girl I met below, She wanted 300 Brazil Reals ($122) a Night. One of the baddest girls I ever slept with in my life. She was worth it. Top 5 girls I ever fucked, and I had sex with hundreds of women.Thats a bad be at at at h! LOL! 122 $ well spent!
Three of us headed to Sosua the next day Fresh, Justice and myself. We took Fresh's Hondo Accord. It took us 4100 pesos to fill the car up. I told them fuck that we are taking the bus next time. It took us approximately three hours to get there. We arrived about 7 o'clock and headed straight to hotel the Europa. $40 per night and $75 for the joining room. I was feeling tall and chocolate that night from the chica I didn't hit ayer. I didn't session the first chica but she did a accompanied me to my room. She saw my bag of clothes and immediately asked me for some. (yeah I slipped) I let her try on a couple outfits because she had a nice chocalate body. I went to get some ice for the Ciroc and she followed me to the front desk. The look the receptionist gave me told me everything about this puta. At the front desk I told the receptionist to give her back her I'd card and told the puta she can leave. When she left; the receptionist told me I did a smart thing. I still had a strong taste for chocolate. So I found me one little Haitian spinner. She made the 1500 peso Max for all night and she also left with a departing gift. Doesn't the first girl kill those two dress. I like them classy sometimes.Nice! You're a connoisseur of chocolate! LOL!
SavePros321
10-05-14, 05:05
Your Brazil chick is fine, but:
4,000 Pesos? That's almost a hundred dollars, You can get 9 and 10's dime chicks in Columbia in Casas fucking for $20.00. No way I can pay a Dominican Puta 4000 pesos!.
Yeah, probably in "Columbia", but not the "Colombia" I go to, LOL.
You probably saw them as "9's and 10's" if that was your first time going and that's all you knew. I've never seen anything above the 6 or 7 range.
Once you get up in the Fase Dos or Loutron bracket, then that's a different story. But you will not getting any chicas from those two establishments for $20.00, Lmao!
Member #4398
10-05-14, 05:34
4,000 Pesos? That's almost a hundred dollars, You can get 9 and 10's dime chicks in Columbia in Casas fucking for $20.00. No way I can pay a Dominican Puta 4000 pesos!.
The Most I ever paid was a Brazilian Girl I met below, She wanted 300 Brazil Reals ($122) a Night. One of the baddest girls I ever slept with in my life. She was worth it. Top 5 girls I ever fucked, and I had sex with hundreds of women.Forcesteeler,
That is a fine morena. Everybody has different taste. Some like skinny some like big. Some like big ass, some like small. Some like dark skin morenas, some like the nice looking paisas, some don't. I met an Italian monger in Sosua who had a complete opposite taste than mine. I like big ass athletic (not too fat) and no so dark skin. Whenever I saw one to my liking in a bikini and told him to look at that fine, he would be surprised and was like "you called that beautiful". He thought I was kidding and he thought the lady was like at a whale, not attracted at all. Then I saw him staring a extremely thin lady with a flat ass with big breast. He asked me to look at the beauty HE found and I was looking and looking, but could not see her. I could not find her until HE pointed her out to me. She looked like a broom stick with breasts to me but to him that was like a 10 that he would pay 4000 pesos and that I would only get for free.
Parkinsons
10-05-14, 05:38
. I went to get some ice for the Ciroc and she followed me to the front desk. The look the receptionist gave me told me everything about this puta. At the front desk I told the receptionist to give her back her I'd card and told the puta she can leave. When she left; the receptionist told me I did a smart thing.Can you elaborate on this? What story did the receptionist tell you about the girl? I may not be as perceptive as your are. In order for the receptionist to stop me in my tracks, she'd have to do one of those finger slashing across the throat signals.
4,000 Pesos? No way I can pay a Dominican Puta 4000 pesos!.
The THIRST is real, my friend, LOL.
4,000 Pesos? That's almost a hundred dollars, You can get 9 and 10's dime chicks in Columbia in Casas fucking for $20.00. No way I can pay a Dominican Puta 4000 pesos!.
The Most I ever paid was a Brazilian Girl I met below, She wanted 300 Brazil Reals ($122) a Night. One of the baddest girls I ever slept with in my life. She was worth it. Top 5 girls I ever fucked, and I had sex with hundreds of women.That's a badddd puta.
My favorite reception wasn't at the desk when I entered with the young lady. Anytime I bring in a chica she always gives me a positive or negative look. It's very subtle but it's our way of communication. I have the same relationship with the security guard. I always tip both of them and they always let me know if my choices have been problems for previous guess. I have only been there for 15 minutes and as Bro P states I am a connoisseur of chocolate. Her sexy ass and last nights miss clouded my judgment. One look for my favorite reception in a negative fashion and please give this puta her I'd card and get her the hell away.
Parkinsons
10-05-14, 17:26
My favorite reception wasn't at the desk when I entered with the young lady. Anytime I bring in a chica she always gives me a positive or negative look. It's very subtle but it's our way of communication. I have the same relationship with the security guard. I always tip both of them and they always let me know if my choices have been problems for previous guess. I have only been there for 15 minutes and as Bro P states I am a connoisseur of chocolate. Her sexy ass and last nights miss clouded my judgment. One look for my favorite reception in a negative fashion and please give this puta her I'd card and get her the hell away.Ah, so you have like an on-going vetting committee there. Gotcha. Good idea.
Mr Enternational
10-05-14, 19:36
My favorite reception wasn't at the desk when I entered with the young lady. Anytime I bring in a chica she always gives me a positive or negative look. It's very subtle but it's our way of communication.And since I was fucking the girl at the desk I no longer stay there because if I went in with a chica the only looks I will get are negative ones.
Parkinsons
10-05-14, 19:57
And since I was fucking the girl at the desk I no longer stay there because if I went in with a chica the only looks I will get are negative ones.Haha LMAO quite an one-upper!!
That's funny cause I've been reading another forum where a bunch of SIMPS brag about giving this chic 4,000 pesos, almost like its a bargain.This broad here is smoking hot! And I don't usually say that about many of the chicks posted here. Now this is a chick that can compete wit HE dimes in a Rio. I will def bang this chick if I see here in Sosua. I'd rather pay here 4000 pesos for a really good fuck and a cool ass personally than to cut some 1500 deal with a troublesome "leche papi, leche papi" chick who is a horrible fuck. Easy decision.
Mr Enternational
10-06-14, 04:09
I'd rather pay here 4000 pesos for a really good fuck and a cool ass personally than to cut some 1500 deal with a troublesome "leche papi, leche papi" chick who is a horrible fuck. Easy decision.I will sort of agree with you. But only if there was some kind of way you could be assured of the results. The problem is that in this hobby Your Mileage May Vary. Just because another monger had fun with her and she was a great match for him in the sack does not mean the same will hold true for the next monger. And 4000 pesos is a hefty price to pay to find out you just got some regular old crackers.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=IQkyVI7eJfiZsQTvnoGwAQ&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNNzPEcDOVeI&cd=3&ved=0CCQQtwIwAg&usg=AFQjCNEYliVaVgCrI9HflyH5VPymtmn_JQ&sig2=k-q0ohQ5gQ6-AQG6qRVw-A
I will sort of agree with you. But only if there was some kind of way you could be assured of the results. The problem is that in this hobby Your Mileage May Vary. Just because another monger had fun with her and she was a great match for him in the sack does not mean the same will hold true for the next monger. And 4000 pesos is a hefty price to pay to find out you just got some regular old crackers.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=IQkyVI7eJfiZsQTvnoGwAQ&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNNzPEcDOVeI&cd=3&ved=0CCQQtwIwAg&usg=AFQjCNEYliVaVgCrI9HflyH5VPymtmn_JQ&sig2=k-q0ohQ5gQ6-AQG6qRVw-AThat's exactly right. And I'd add that chicas age quickly in this "profession. " A girl that was a fantastic fuck 4 months ago may have lost it by the time you see her.
I will sort of agree with you. But only if there was some kind of way you could be assured of the results. The problem is that in this hobby Your Mileage May Vary. Just because another monger had fun with her and she was a great match for him in the sack does not mean the same will hold true for the next monger. And 4000 pesos is a hefty price to pay to find out you just got some regular old crackers.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=IQkyVI7eJfiZsQTvnoGwAQ&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNNzPEcDOVeI&cd=3&ved=0CCQQtwIwAg&usg=AFQjCNEYliVaVgCrI9HflyH5VPymtmn_JQ&sig2=k-q0ohQ5gQ6-AQG6qRVw-ANo I agree with you. There's nothing guaranteed in this so you can never really be assured of anything. But just like anything else in life good reviews are always better than bad ones. And 4000 pesos isn't a lot if the alternative is 1500 for some bullshit. So for me I'd rather save myself some time and hassle and fuck with her than to bullshit around with a "leche papi" broad to save 40 bucks. Because at the end of my trip I need to be able to say I banged a lot of bad broads who were great fucks and cool personalities. Not I banged a lot of 6's who can't fuck for shit. The point of my trip is to go and have a great time so I'm not willing to sacrifice that in the name of saving a few hundred bucks.
I have hit some 6's who gave me some of my best sexual experiences. Looks rarely predict how a woman will be in bed.
No I agree with you. There's nothing guaranteed in this so you can never really be assured of anything. But just like anything else in life good reviews are always better than bad ones. And 4000 pesos isn't a lot if the alternative is 1500 for some bullshit. So for me I'd rather save myself some time and hassle and fuck with her than to bullshit around with a "leche papi" broad to save 40 bucks. Because at the end of my trip I need to be able to say I banged a lot of bad broads who were great fucks and cool personalities. Not I banged a lot of 6's who can't fuck for shit. The point of my trip is to go and have a great time so I'm not willing to sacrifice that in the name of saving a few hundred bucks.
I have hit some 6's who gave me some of my best sexual experiences. Looks rarely predict how a woman will be in bed.I personally stay away from the hotties as they think their shit doesn't stink. They typically start the "leche papi" two minutes after fucking which is a boner killer for me.
No I agree with you. There's nothing guaranteed in this so you can never really be assured of anything. But just like anything else in life good reviews are always better than bad ones. And 4000 pesos isn't a lot if the alternative is 1500 for some bullshit. So for me I'd rather save myself some time and hassle and fuck with her than to bullshit around with a "leche papi" broad to save 40 bucks. Because at the end of my trip I need to be able to say I banged a lot of bad broads who were great fucks and cool personalities. Not I banged a lot of 6's who can't fuck for shit. The point of my trip is to go and have a great time so I'm not willing to sacrifice that in the name of saving a few hundred bucks.4,000 Pesos is close to two weeks pay for most Dominicans and if you have any Spanish speaking skills you should be able to find plenty of girls who will perform well for no more than 1,500 Pesos.
4,000 Pesos is close to two weeks pay for most Dominicans and if you have any Spanish speaking skills you should be able to find plenty of girls who will perform well for no more than 1,500 Pesos.My goal on a hobbying trip is to sample as many pu. Sies as possible. There comes a time in a trip when you have had all the good 1500 peso pu. Sies that you are able to meet. When that happens I rather bang new 4000 peso pu. Sies than revisit the old 1500 peso ones even though the latter may have been good. One has to accept the fact that there are chicas out there who just would not accept less than 4000 pesos. I respect gents who would not go with the 4000 peso chicas no matter what and admire them for not placing importance on variety. It's a good budgetary plan.
Mr Enternational
10-06-14, 12:30
My goal on a hobbying trip is to sample as many pu. Sies as possible. There comes a time in a trip when you have had all the good 1500 peso pu. Sies that you are able to meet. When that happens I rather bang new 4000 peso pu. Sies than revisit the old 1500 peso ones even though the latter may have been good. One has to accept the fact that there are chicas out there who just would not accept less than 4000 pesos. I respect gents who would not go with the 4000 peso chicas no matter what and admire them for not placing importance on variety. It's a good budgetary plan.Are you asserting that the 4000 peso will feel different than the 1500 peso variety? It seems to me that the only difference that you can be sure of is the price.
. The point of my trip is to go and have a great time so I'm not willing to sacrifice that in the name of saving a few hundred bucks.If you got it like that. Go for it.
One has to accept the fact that there are chicas out there who just would not accept less than 4000 pesos.
Any Chica quoting 4,000 Pesos in Sosua to someone most probably finds that person to be grotesque and not wanting to go with them.
I personally stay away from the hotties as they think their shit doesn't stink. They typically start the "leche papi" two minutes after fucking which is a boner killer for me.I am with you on this Surfer. I hate a puta thinking I am weak enough to pay 4000 as if she is the bomb. Some guys don't understand negotiating in a part of the DR culture. If you go up to a puta and she is quoting 4000 or 5000 pesos and is not bulging; its highly likely she is reading your weakness for her and playing it against you. Some guys are will to give this because they have it like that without a second thought. Guys don't even say I will give you 2500 or 3000 pero si estas realmente bueno, voy darte 1 k para una propina. The chica now has no incentive but to hurry you to get her money. Reading a chica as well as her reading you is all apart of this game we are in. Nothing is worst than being committed in blind 4 k ending with a rushing or mechanical chica with dry pussy, a CBJ and she is giving you more hand than pussy. All because you were thinking with your little head and thought she was the chica of you dreams. In the DR; its lets make a deal - not I will pay what ever you want. Mr E was right when he said use reverse psychology on a puta. Laugh at her and tell her" you are too fat for 4 k. If you think 4 k means a better quality session that's your ball your court. We know most people in the DR would rather fuck you over for 300 pesos right then than 2 k for future business tomorrow. Dealing with chicas is like dealing with a used car salesman. They love when you pay the window price as is. To me sex is 1 part looks 1 part feeling. All looks and no feeling is a waste of money for my cheap ass.
Fresh always get quoted high prices from chicas. In Sosua the same chica that I knocked off twice for 1500 pesos and propinas quoted him $100. HE was ready to pay because she had an ass like no other. Its was the chica with the ass shot. HE let her go when I showed him these pictures. She had some phatt pussy lips, however the sex was better the first time.
Pussy is pussy maybe in your mind you think it was better because you paid more. That is called a mind fuck. The chick piayed with your head and made you think her twat was all that. There is so much good pussy in the DR you can call the shots. 4 k is 3 weeks pay in the DR. Just remember you got gold so you rule and call the shots.
Fresh always get quoted high prices from chicas. In Sosua the same chica that I knocked off twice for 1500 pesos and propinas quoted him $100. HE was ready to pay because she had an ass like no other. Its was the chica with the ass shot. HE let her go when I showed him these pictures. She had some phatt pussy lips, however the sex was better the first time.
ForceSteeler
10-06-14, 18:53
I am with you on this Surfer. I hate a puta thinking I am weak enough to pay 4000 as if she is the bomb. Some guys don't understand negotiating in a part of the DR culture. If you go up to a puta and she is quoting 4000 or 5000 pesos and is not bulging; its highly likely she is reading your weakness for her and playing it against you. Some guys are will to give this because they have it like that without a second thought. Guys don't even say I will give you 2500 or 3000 pero si estas realmente bueno, voy darte 1 k para una propina. The chica now has no incentive but to hurry you to get her money. Reading a chica as well as her reading you is all apart of this game we are in. Nothing is worst than being committed in blind 4 k ending with a rushing or mechanical chica with dry pussy, a CBJ and she is giving you more hand than pussy. All because you were thinking with your little head and thought she was the chica of you dreams. In the DR; its lets make a deal - not I will pay what ever you want. Mr E was right when he said use reverse psychology on a puta. Laugh at her and tell her" you are too fat for 4 k. If you think 4 k means a better quality session that's your ball your court. We know most people in the DR would rather fuck you over for 300 pesos right then than 2 k for future business tomorrow. Dealing with chicas is like dealing with a used car salesman. They love when you pay the window price as is. To me sex is 1 part looks 1 part feeling. All looks and no feeling is a waste of money for my cheap ass.Your right, especially when I was in DR last week, Its a buyer market now, There are few mongers in town and Chicas are willing to fuck for $1000 Pesos. And people that pay 4,000 pesos for a chica is stupid and you have to understand these chicas in Sosua Talk alot, so.
If You pay 1 Chica $4,000 Pesos, the next chica you want to fuck is going to quote the same price, Because That chica you paid $4 K is going to tell all her puta friends.
Pussy is pussy maybe in your mind you think it was better because you paid more. That is called a mind fuck. The chick piayed with your head and made you think her twat was all that. There is so much good pussy in the DR you can call the shots. 4 k is 3 weeks pay in the DR. Just remember you got gold so you rule and call the shots.I've been here 12 days now and have had no problem getting Dominican Chicas to go for anywhere from 1,000 pesos to 1,500 pesos. I told one Chica 1,000 pesos with a possible tip after she quoted me 2,000 Pesos and she accepted the offer. The fucking wasnt to great with this one but she let me finish in her mouth without backing off and earned a 200 peso tip for that. When she went to the bathroom to spit out my load, the water had been turned off so she couldn't rinse her mouth out to well.
Some girls I just tell them what I'm willing to pay which is typically 1,000 Pesos with no negotiation whatsoever. One girl wanted 1,500 pesos and I told her no, she said how about we make a deal. She said she would go for 1,000 Pesos and if I liked her performance she would get a tip with no mention of how much the tip would be. She walked out with 1,500 pesos for a great performance and wanted to TLN with me but I had to pass.
The Haitian Chicas on the Strip are very aggressive and with the exception of a few will all go for a 1,000 Pesos ST and TLN can easily be had for not much more. Last night one Haitian was hassling me and I told her to back off or I would call over one of the cops on the Strip.
Ipanema Carioca
10-06-14, 19:30
I've been here 12 days now and have had no problem getting Dominican Chicas to go for anywhere from 1,000 pesos to 1,500 pesos. I told one Chica 1,000 pesos with a possible tip after she quoted me 2,000 Pesos and she accepted the offer. The fucking wasnt to great with this one but she let me finish in her mouth without backing off and earned a 200 peso tip for that. When she went to the bathroom to spit out my load, the water had been turned off so she couldn't rinse her mouth out to well.
Some girls I just tell them what I'm willing to pay which is typically 1,000 Pesos with no negotiation whatsoever. One girl wanted 1,500 pesos and I told her no, she said how about we make a deal. She said she would go for 1,000 Pesos and if I liked her performance she would get a tip with no mention of how much the tip would be. She walked out with 1,500 pesos for a great performance and wanted to TLN with me but I had to pass.
The Haitian Chicas on the Strip are very aggressive and with the exception of a few will all go for a 1,000 Pesos ST and TLN can easily be had for not much more. Last night one Haitian was hassling me and I told her to back off or I would call over one of the cops on the Strip.The water was turned off? You must've been at the Victorian House!
Mr Enternational
10-06-14, 20:06
I told one Chica 1,000 pesos with a possible tip after she quoted me 2,000 Pesos and she accepted the offer. The fucking wasnt to great with this one but she let me finish in her mouth without backing off and earned a 200 peso tip for that. When she went to the bathroom to spit out my load, the water had been turned off so she couldn't rinse her mouth out to well.Spit out your load? Man I would have deducted 400 pesos right then and there for disrepecting my shit like that.
Spit out your load? Man I would have deducted 400 pesos right then and there for disrepecting my shit like that.Sorry to say she wasn't a swallower. She earned the 200 Peso tip for not backing off while I was filling her mouth up!
She probably coated another guy's dick with my remnants later that evening.
I empathize with some guys on this board. I pay more than $150 per hour in the States. After banging a chica for an hour in many positions I don't mind paying her 4000 pesos (US $100). If I were a pretty boy with a small dick who came in less than fifteen minutes I would refuse to pay more than 1000 pesos.
ForceSteeler
10-07-14, 01:13
I empathize with some guys on this board. I pay more than $150 per hour in the States. After banging a chica for an hour in many positions I don't mind paying her 4000 pesos (US $100). If I were a pretty boy with a small dick who came in less than fifteen minutes I would refuse to pay more than 1000 pesos.Well when your overpaying your spoiling it for the rest of us. There's no reason why you should overpay a chica. In there minds your a sucker. Just like when I used to sell my play station 2 and 3 when it first came out on ebay for $1,800, when its only worth $400-$500.
I would look at them as a sucker, No different from a Car Sales men. Your not impressing anybody by overpaying.
Mr Enternational
10-07-14, 01:46
I empathize with some guys on this board. I pay more than $150 per hour in the States. After banging a chica for an hour in many positions I don't mind paying her 4000 pesos (US $100).I was thinking about that the other day. Many guys travel then come on ISG having paid more than necessary and say well it was a bargain to me because I pay X back at home. Why have me and my friends never done the comparison thing? I figured it's because we fuck with normal chicks in our own country and save the mongering for when we are away. Never had a use for hookers on the home turf and sport fuck when we go to sport fucking destinations. We do it for the fun and comraderie and not for the necessity. So should I be empathizing with myself? I pay 0 in the States and go overseas and pay $30 or so until I start meeting non-pros and thereafter go back to paying 0 just like home.
I empathize with some guys on this board. I pay more than $150 per hour in the States. After banging a chica for an hour in many positions I don't mind paying her 4000 pesos (US $100). If I were a pretty boy with a small dick who came in less than fifteen minutes I would refuse to pay more than 1000 pesos.Ok Turgid because you are unattractive, pay a lot in the states and well endowed you should pay more. I respect your decision pimpin. I think you are playing the game like a American who doesn't know HE is in the DR. Or maybe I am jealous.
Member #4398
10-07-14, 04:44
I empathize with some guys on this board. I pay more than $150 per hour in the States. After banging a chica for an hour in many positions I don't mind paying her 4000 pesos (US $100). If I were a pretty boy with a small dick who came in less than fifteen minutes I would refuse to pay more than 1000 pesos.When prices are low like in Sosua, paying excessive amounts like $100 dollars sets a bad precedent with the chicas. Once in a while, I don't mind paying a little more than $50 for a good service or 60 dollars the most for a chica that provides a great service. I also don't think is good to be too cheap when the chicas do good job like some mongers would even try to give them 10 or 15 dollars. But 100 dollars is excessive even for an overnight with multiple pops. From reading the posts, chica prices have been going down in Sosua, therefore the girls should not be spoiled that way. You are not in the USA, and even if you pay more than 150 in the USA, you should stick with the prices set by the market regardless of how.
Long a person last or how long is the dick.
I empathize with some guys on this board. I pay more than $150 per hour in the States. After banging a chica for an hour in many positions I don't mind paying her 4000 pesos (US $100). If I were a pretty boy with a small dick who came in less than fifteen minutes I would refuse to pay more than 1000 pesos.
One time I was sitting at a table at Sosua Beach. I asked a chica the cost of a particular drink and when she told me I responded that it was too expensive. She answered that that was the cost of the drink in New York. I replied that we were not in New York but in the Dominican Republic.
One really should not compare the cost of an item, or service, in the states with that in the Dominican Republic. Doing so will only lead to being overcharged. Only five people overpay: the inexperienced (newbie); those who think money is no object (and go to overpriced places with names like Oxygen, Viking, DR Nights, etc.); those who get hustled (it happens to all of us. The more experience the less we get hustled); those who experiment, like going to a particular place to see if it really is that much better (most of the time it is not and they chalk it up to experience); and the ignorant (when I was last in the DR on the final night a friend wanted to go to a fancy restaurant. The bill was quite high and the guy still felt obligated to leave a tip, despite my protests [while a couple of American women were behind us laughing at my friend's ignorance). My friend continued making this mistake even though HE has been to the DR many times. It was getting embarrassing so I had to stop hanging out with him.
Short term, for a streetwalker, no more than 1500 DOP (and many times she can be had cheaper), while overnight no more than 3000 DOP (and even this, I feel, is too much. For me, definitely not over 2000 DOP). I am no pretty boy with a small dick and I do last more than fifteen minutes and I still get these prices.
A casa chica expect to pay more. See a chica in a casa, talk to her, pull her to the side, get her number, and you can screw her after work, or on her day off, for a fraction of the cost. She does not have to split her take with the casa so she would really appreciate it.
4000 DOP is simply too much. Even the chicas know this is too much money. (in all due respect. I do not mean to sound condescending).
Sorry to say she wasn't a swallower. She earned the 200 Peso tip for not backing off while I was filling her mouth up!
She probably coated another guy's dick with my remnants later that evening.I can picture her giving her next customer a DFK. Eeewwww!
I have purchased sex from thousands of women for over forty years in many countries all over the world. I am in awe of those guys on this forum who get it cheap and also those who don't have to pay for it at all.
SavePros321
10-07-14, 13:34
I have purchased sex from thousands of women for over forty years in many countries all over the world. I am in awe of those guys on this forum who get it cheap and also those who don't have to pay for it at all.Careful with that last statement. I have seen the photos of some of these guys so-called freebies (non-pros) and am in awe that someone would travel thousands of miles to bang a chick that the closest I myself would get to was if I was blindfolded and accidentally backed into it!
I'm like "if that's your overseas non-pro, I may just throw up in my mouth a little if I saw your domestic chick".
Tempoecorto
10-07-14, 14:29
I have purchased sex from thousands of women for over forty years in many countries all over the world. I am in awe of those guys on this forum who get it cheap and also those who don't have to pay for it at all.Ha, as usual we are back, full circle, to the most debated theme. To my mind, anyone who "does not pay at all" is very much into mental masturbation and / or deception while the question of cheap vs overpay is a situational one. There is some truth in paying the "market price" but sex and perception of satisfaction is intimately connected with our individual hypothalamus, shaped by our experiences and we are not going to change any mind.
Ha, as usual we are back, full circle, to the most debated theme. To my mind, anyone who "does not pay at all" is very much into mental masturbation and / or deception while the question of cheap vs overpay is a situational one. There is some truth in paying the "market price" but sex and perception of satisfaction is intimately connected with our individual hypothalamus, shaped by our experiences and we are not going to change any mind.You hit the nail on the head brother!,It's all about our individual hypothalamus! Lmao! I fail to understand why some of these gentlemen insist on complicating this simple matter!,Lmao! Just joking bruh. Great post!
Manizales911
10-07-14, 21:05
Careful with that last statement. I have seen the photos of some of these guys so-called freebies (non-pros) and am in awe that someone would travel thousands of miles to bang a chick that the closest I myself would get to was if I was blindfolded and accidentally backed into it!
I'm like "if that's your overseas non-pro, I may just throw up in my mouth a little if I saw your domestic chick".I'm glad that you had the balls to say it, I've had the same exact thoughts for awhile now but didn't want to get certain members knickers in a twist. Some, not all of what I've seen on here as cheap or free girls I wouldn't f**k with someone else's dick. Besides, it's never ever free, your time, gas, meals, Cupid memberships, gifts, cabañas, taxis, car rentals, etc. You be payin' somehow. Before anyone say "post some photos of your own", dude I'm not that stupid, and maybe I'm selfish. I'm not getting any younger so it's time to circle my wagons. Oh fuck it, maybe I'll dig up a few when I get a chance.
I'm glad that you had the balls to say it, I've had the same exact thoughts for awhile now but didn't want to get certain members knickers in a twist. Some, not all of what I've seen on here as cheap or free girls I wouldn't f**k with someone else's dick. Besides, it's never ever free, your time, gas, meals, Cupid memberships, gifts, cabaas, taxis, car rentals, etc. You be payin' somehow. Before anyone say "post some photos of your own", dude I'm not that stupid, and maybe I'm selfish. I'm not getting any younger so it's time to circle my wagons. Oh fuck it, maybe I'll dig up a few when I get a chance.Unless one is spending substantial time in these destinations, I really don't see the point in pursuing non-pros. Like most here, my trips are generally a week or two and IMO it makes no sense to waste time pursuing non-pros. I want a hot chica and I want her now. That's not to say I don't try to develop a bit of a repoire with the girls, which I do because it makes the "transaction" more enjoyable.
OTOH, why would anyone in their right mind post a pic of a non-pro HE was with on a sex site? I'm sure a young, good-looking guy could clean up with non-pros in many of these locales IF HE was on the ground on extensive period of time. But it wouldn't be good form to post their pic here.
Tempoecorto
10-08-14, 05:42
I'm glad that you had the balls to say it, I've had the same exact thoughts for awhile now but didn't want to get certain members knickers in a twist.With all due respect to you and Savepro, isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder, "Free" or full sticker? I am more drawn to buxom women that others who are into flacas, may feel like throwing up looking at. Do I care to change others' viewpoints?
I'm glad that you had the balls to say it, I've had the same exact thoughts for awhile now but didn't want to get certain members knickers in a twist. Some, not all of what I've seen on here as cheap or free girls I wouldn't f**k with someone else's dick. Besides, it's never ever free, your time, gas, meals, Cupid memberships, gifts, cabaas, taxis, car rentals, etc. You be payin' somehow. Manizales, you, and some of the others, have touched upon the Achilles Heel of all internet P4 P message boards. Most of us are on sites such as this one to trade information and experiences. However, there are always a few whose primary purpose for posting is to build their own egos and to in some way make them look better than anyone else. Some of these members should change their screen names to "Mr. Perfect" because that's what they think they are. No matter what the situation they always come out on top. They never make mistakes and the chicas pay them instead of the other way around. Like anyone with with some common sense and a brain actually believes what they post.
I also find it amusing when they post pics of their conquest the chica is a dog. Like many of the others I don't travel to foreign countries to have sex with dogs and then brag about that she paid me and cooked for me and would not accept $$$ from me blah blah blah.
I'm glad that you had the balls to say it, I've had the same exact thoughts for awhile now but didn't want to get certain members knickers in a twist. Some, not all of what I've seen on here as cheap or free girls I wouldn't f**k with someone else's dick. Besides, it's never ever free, your time, gas, meals, Cupid memberships, gifts, cabaas, taxis, car rentals, etc. You be payin' somehow. Before anyone say "post some photos of your own", dude I'm not that stupid, and maybe I'm selfish. I'm not getting any younger so it's time to circle my wagons. Oh fuck it, maybe I'll dig up a few when I get a chance.I fuck pros.
Semi pros don't exist.
I pay when I fuck pros.
I never get fucked for free.
I'm not a loser, just a monger.
BrasilSoccer0
10-08-14, 08:46
Mr. Perfect'S penis must be bigger than his brain.
BTW, anyone knows mr perfect can honestly say good things about him?
Ha, as usual we are back, full circle, to the most debated theme. To my mind, anyone who "does not pay at all" is very much into mental masturbation and / or deception while the question of cheap vs overpay is a situational one. There is some truth in paying the "market price" but sex and perception of satisfaction is intimately connected with our individual hypothalamus, shaped by our experiences and we are not going to change any mind.Absolutely correct. This conversation goes nowhere. One man's meat is another man's poison, and your tastes and budget determine what you spend with who. You can blow a lot of mongering money on that dinner at Bailey's, or that extra leg room on the plane. And you can rent by the hour, day, or week, your choice.
There's enough meat down there to satisfy anybody's taste and budget, and I hope we don't discourage guys from posting pics of their good sex partners, just because they don't meet somebody else's standard of beauty. Otherwise it just becomes a bullshit pissing contest.
Big and small, we love 'em all. Keep the pics coming!
And, there's nobody in his right mind who get's his sex for free who would spend time here on a mongering board.
Parkinsons
10-08-14, 15:43
If I were a pretty boy with a small dick who came in less than fifteen minutes I would refuse to pay more than 1000 pesos.That's actually how I describe myself to ask for discounts from the girls. I tell them I leche quickly and they'd barely feel anything down there. Dame descuento mami?
With all due respect to you and Savepro, isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder, "Free" or full sticker? I am more drawn to buxom women that others who are into flacas, may feel like throwing up looking at. Do I care to change others' viewpoints?Hi T, I have seen some of your pics of the buxom beauties and am begging to be your wingman! Any chance you will be in DR in January? Cervezas on me! My tentative plan is Jan 12 in Santo Domingo, Jan 13 - 18 at Rocky's in Sousa, Jan 19 and 20 in Santiago and Jan 21 - 24 back in Santo Domingo. Thanks.
I planning a trip for the same time period. I like the thick one as well.
Hi T, I have seen some of your pics of the buxom beauties and am begging to be your wingman! Any chance you will be in DR in January? Cervezas on me! My tentative plan is Jan 12 in Santo Domingo, Jan 13 - 18 at Rocky's in Sousa, Jan 19 and 20 in Santiago and Jan 21 - 24 back in Santo Domingo. Thanks.
I planning a trip for the same time period. I like the thick one as well.Great, Old Kool! I would really like to meet you, too! My Spanish is weak at best so I really appreciate any assistance!
Charles Pooter
10-08-14, 19:54
I tell them ... they'd barely feel anything down there. Having a small dick is a big advantage if you want anal sex. I speak from personal experience!
Nothing is free. Those guys just talk stupid when they say they don't pay. Most women married or not are working girls. Just saying.
I fuck pros.
Semi pros don't exist.
I pay when I fuck pros.
I never get fucked for free.
I'm not a loser, just a monger.
Having a small dick is a big advantage if you want anal sex. I speak from personal experience!Mr. Pooter,
You always crack me up.
RocheBrazi
10-08-14, 23:33
New Toy for the Weekend Warriors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0lB_qN6vDc
Have any of you seen any of the people in the DR planting the new government mahogany trees.
Saturady, I did get me a nice young afternoon snack from the beach. Thousand peso Deal. I can't remember the session was good or not (ain't that something). I think about the Jamaican business owner and his beware advice. HE went loco when I was talking to the young lady in front of his business, however, I invited her to a beer and a sit in his area and HE was cool. A lot of business / bar owners may like the fact that the police are push the away the SW. SW can help or hurt your business.
Later on that night of my last night I settle with another repeat. Chica from my first time coming to Sosua. She was squirter like no other and I was hoping to repeat that fun session. She had gained about 10 pounds but it all looks well proportioned. She's hard-core now. When I first met her she would sleep in your room for free just to lay her head. She fuck me like no other; however I could not get her to squirt again. The pussy wasn't the same 1000 dicks later, but she tried to go out her way to please. I also the front desk let her go without any I'd. She kept her hand on my dick all night. Any signs of erection and she knocked it down. Think she was down for anal. I saluted her on her efforts to try and please. I gave her three dresses. She is my Sosua's first.
Said goodbye to her I will see you in a couple months. Perhaps.
............Later on that night of my last night I settle with another repeat. Chica from my first time coming to Sosua. She was squirter like no other and I was hoping to repeat that fun session. She had gained about 10 pounds but it all looks well proportioned. She's hard-core now. When I first met her she would sleep in your room for free just to lay her head. She fuck me like no other; however I could not get her to squirt again. The pussy wasn't the same 1000 dicks later, but she tried to go out her way to please. I also the front desk let her go without any I'd. She kept her hand on my dick all night. Any signs of erection and she knocked it down. Think she was down for anal. I saluted her on her efforts to try and please. I gave her three dresses. She is my Sosua's first.
Said goodbye to her I will see you in a couple months. Perhaps.That first time for a newbie can be quite memorable.
I met two chicas that night, the first was the chica I am still seeing regularly. She spent so much time behind the bar helping out, I thought she worked there.
The second, after the first one went home, was beautiful, in no hurry, eager to please and said I could pay what I thought she was worth. Not being familiar with the going rate I think I gave her 3000 for about two hours.
Same deal next night, first chica goes home again and the other one sat around all night, waiting till she goes.
Couldn't believe how great Sosua was. My room across the street at CV. Easy, fun, and no hassle. Thought I was being cool.
I think a newbie night like that would be rare in the Sosua of today.
(Found out later of course, that my regular knew exactly what was going on after she left, and made sure it didn't happen again) .
My second day in Sosua (over 5 years ago) I walked down to the beach. Had a beer at the little parking lot beach bar. Cigar, happy and planning my evening game. Talked to the chica there and had a great conversation, now I think I've got three to juggle into my plans. Just as it was getting interesting, the GF shows up. I'd told her I'd be on the beach the next day and she's been looking for me.
Never saw that bartender again uuntil a couple years later. She hung around with us for two days, said she was working at M&M. I knew I had to bang this chica somehow. After a few beers tried to get the GF to go for a threesome, but she looked at me like I was crazy.
On later trips I tried to find her but no luck, except when I was with the GF.
Fast forward to last month. GF and I were walking past Bailey's and hear our names called. There she is in Bailey's wearing a nice polo shirt and holding what I thought was a tray. Thought she was working there. We all sat down for a beer. She orders juice. Now I recall that I've never seen her drink alcohol. No, she said, I don't work here, I'm going to English school across the street. There were no jobs in Sosua she says. She looks about 25 and I ask her how old, she says 37!
Something about that turns me on. I wait till GF goes to toilet (after 5 years, finally alone) and tell her I'm coming back in October, no GF, and would like to see her. She's startled, No No she says, I could never do that!
I'm taken aback, and 5 years of being Mr Cool is unwinding here. Did I misjudge her affection for me? Did I assume from M&M that she woud do anything for Dinero? Is she loyal to my GF, or did GF get to her and lay down the law? Is she just being coy, or is that why in al these trips I never saw her on the strip? WTF?
Anyway, we all leave, give her some motoconcho money, and walk down to PC. Before she leaves we stop at the german bakery and she selects two large slices of cake to take home for her bambinos. She's happy and grateful.
Is that the end of the story?
We'll see in October.
My second day in Sosua (over 5 years ago) I walked down to the beach. Had a beer at the little parking lot beach bar. Cigar, happy and planning my evening game. Talked to the chica there and had a great conversation, now I think I've got three to juggle into my plans. Just as it was getting interesting, the GF shows up. I'd told her I'd be on the beach the next day and she's been looking for me.
Never saw that bartender again uuntil a couple years later. She hung around with us for two days, said she was working at M&M. I knew I had to bang this chica somehow. After a few beers tried to get the GF to go for a threesome, but she looked at me like I was crazy.
On later trips I tried to find her but no luck, except when I was with the GF.
Fast forward to last month. GF and I were walking past Bailey's and hear our names called. There she is in Bailey's wearing a nice polo shirt and holding what I thought was a tray. Thought she was working there. We all sat down for a beer. She orders juice. Now I recall that I've never seen her drink alcohol. No, she said, I don't work here, I'm going to English school across the street. There were no jobs in Sosua she says. She looks about 25 and I ask her how old, she says 37!
Something about that turns me on. I wait till GF goes to toilet (after 5 years, finally alone) and tell her I'm coming back in October, no GF, and would like to see her. She's startled, No No she says, I could never do that!
I'm taken aback, and 5 years of being Mr Cool is unwinding here. Did I misjudge her affection for me? Did I assume from M&M that she woud do anything for Dinero? Is she loyal to my GF, or did GF get to her and lay down the law? Is she just being coy, or is that why in al these trips I never saw her on the strip? WTF?
Anyway, we all leave, give her some motoconcho money, and walk down to PC. Before she leaves we stop at the german bakery and she selects two large slices of cake to take home for her bambinos. She's happy and grateful.
Is that the end of the story?
We'll see in October.Isn't this the GF that allows you to have three somes? Why was she hanging around for 2 days? Loyalty in Sosua is rare. I have seen cut throat sisters cross each other for money. You say she was 37, hanging in Sosua and didn't want to do business with you? Damn I would have told her. No amor you are going to fuck me and enjoy it! You should have been my novia. Take the 2 k to your kids. We are going to remain friend and ever talking about our business.
That first time for a newbie can be quite memorable.
(Found out later of course, that my regular knew exactly what was going on after she left, and made sure it didn't happen again) .See cut throats. For the love of money. I too paid 3 k in BC to a puta secod trip, but I was rushed. I see her sexy ass all the time now and she gets 0 from me or my friends. Don't even come over here. I know she wish she could turn back the hand of time and making things cool between us. Oh well! I have about 4 to 6 another chicas in that same boat.
Isn't this the GF that allows you to have three somes? Why was she hanging around for 2 days? Loyalty in Sosua is rare. I have seen cut throat sisters cross each other for money. You say she was 37, hanging in Sosua and didn't want to do business with you? Damn I would have told her. No amor you are going to fuck me and enjoy it! You should have been my novia. Take the 2 k to your kids. We are going to remain friend and ever talking about our business.Yep, my regular won't do it, and she wouldn't stick around if I did it. No big deal really, but if I banged another chica on her time, it would change the dynamic between us pretty quick. I don't want to do that, because I love things just as they are.
As for the 37 year old, I've only met her the three times, and she was either working at a regular job in Sosua, or going to night school, so she was never "hanging in Sosua" which is why I never found her on any of my many trips, even though I asked my local connections. She lives in L'Union with her ma and 2 bambinos.
But I love your advice. "No, amor, you are going to fuck me and enjoy it" That's me, next time.
Fast forward to last month. GF and I were walking past Bailey's and hear our names called. There she is in Bailey's wearing a nice polo shirt and holding what I thought was a tray. Thought she was working there. We all sat down for a beer. She orders juice. Now I recall that I've never seen her drink alcohol. No, she said, I don't work here, I'm going to English school across the street. There were no jobs in Sosua she says. She looks about 25 and I ask her how old, she says 37!
Something about that turns me on. I wait till GF goes to toilet (after 5 years, finally alone) and tell her I'm coming back in October, no GF, and would like to see her. She's startled, No No she says, I could never do that!
I'm taken aback, and 5 years of being Mr Cool is unwinding here. Did I misjudge her affection for me? Did I assume from M&M that she woud do anything for Dinero? Is she loyal to my GF, or did GF get to her and lay down the law? Is she just being coy, or is that why in al these trips I never saw her on the strip? WTF?
Oh come on, man! It is perfectly obvious why she did not want to see you behind the girlfriend's back, and by hitting on her while the girlfriend was in the bathroom, you showed real class.
Thanks for reporting bro. You are enjoying life and living life to its fullest but don't get into a comfort zone yet. There are other opportunities awaiting you but you must let your mind grow. Think about the next level and you will be ahead of the game. If you don't grow to the next level you will be stuck in a game that will become boring and repetitious. The potential is there but you can't be afraid to let it express itself.
Good luck bro.
Camaro1257
10-12-14, 05:11
Camaro in Sosua Synopsis October 2014.
Gentleman I have just completed my most recent excursion throughout the Dominican Republic. This trip will include separate synopsis reports on Bonao, & Santiago. I was going to write something on Puerto Plata, although I made 2 day trips there was nothing of significance to report.
The aforementioned reports will include anecdotes and my observations of the conditions and activities on the ground of each of the locations. This trip includes 2 days in Sosua, 2 days in Bonao, 1 day in Santiago and closes with 3 days in Sosua.
Below I have listed my notes for your review.
Victorian House.
I have stayed at the Victorian House on various occasions due to the incredible view of Sosua Bay and in support of other board members who have been a part of the Victorian House management team.
Personally my primary complaint has been on one of my trips I had problems with the WIFI operating in my room. It should be noted this trip I had no problems, the WIFI worked perfectly. In addition it can be a challenge getting the hotel registration staff to respond to your inquiries.
There have been many reported challenges at Victorian House from loosing reservations to poor security as in all life's experiences YMMV.
Casa Cayena.
I have stayed at Casa Cayena before but I thought I would try the bungalow as opposed to the basic room. The bungalow is a much bigger room and is poolside. The rate includes breakfast and dinner so it was a steel.
The room has a patio, flat screen TV, safe in the closet and the WIFI along with the air conditioning work well.
Wilfred the owner of Casa Cayena.
As previously stated this is my second stay at Casa Cayena and I would be neglectful if I did not make notable mention of Wilfred. Every time HE sees you in the restaurant HE goes out of his way to greet you and shake your hand. Will somebody tell me wur dey do datt at? I have not been at a hotel or any establishment in the Dominican Republic where the owner personally greets you therefore to Wilfred I say BRAVO!
Pedro Clisante update October 3, 2014.
There have been a few changes on Pedro Clisante since my last trip in August, below I have listed my observations:
City Lights:
City Lights is as dead as a door knob may last few trips now it is officially closed with gates up and the whole 9 yards.
Bermuda Bar.
Bermuda Bar has their window openings blocked just like Bar Central but seems to keep a small crowd despite being such a small venue.
Rumbas:
Rumbas is still the late afternoon early evening gathering spot but the talent pool during the week leaves much to be desired. The talent level depends on the day of the week, for example on Mondays it sucks but on Fridays it rocks.
The Premium Disco Bar:
The Premium Disco Bar had chairs on the sidewalk and there was very little of a crowd than my last trip and less security.
The Spot:
The Spot is closed the doors are locked and the Flat screen TV's that were on the walls have been taken down. Everything is boarded up.
The Winners Circle:
I saw a little crowd there each time I walked by but mostly people standing out front.
Bar Central.
Bar Central considered to be the Hatian Embassy because there are so many Hatians is virtually dead with the sign posted "no unaccompanied women" and the louvers over the windows it appears to be in decline.
Merengue:
Merengue is my favorite spot in the late evening because of the friendly staff and light snack they serve wings sandwiches etc. The kitchen is closed on Mondays. I also like being able to watch the chica parade up to Classicos through the glass partitions. I enjoy the staff as they always treat me like family.
Classicos.
Classicos remains the crown of Sosua monger night life. I enjoy the night club atmosphere and air-conditioning. Sosua's best comes out but just like Rumbas the talent level varies based on the day of the week. They open at 11 pm and it is on and poppin by 1 am.
Mamajuana Cafe:
The Mamajuana Cafe is closed on Sundays and is still a chill spot but it has very little traffic during the week. This another spot that is having difficulty surviving.
Cambio & New Dominican Currency Notes.
The Dominican Republic is currently circulating new currency notes which contain sophisticated anti-counterfeiting measures. The bills are issued in 50,100, 1000 and 2000 peso denominations.
Cambio exchange rates as of October 9, 2014 are as follows:
Western Union 43.6 DOP -1 US.
Casa de Cambio Ortega is giving 43.3 DOP -US.
Merengue / Classicos 35. DOP-US.
Rumbas & Rancho Tipico raided September 6, 2014.
Both Rumbas and Rancho Tipo received visits from approximately a dozen governmental officials September 6, 2014 for about 30 minutes. The officials were armed with side arms, shotguns and assault rifles. The officials entered and did not allow patrons to enter or exit during their stay. The music was turned off. Three teams of two agents each appeared to be conducting a search.
For approximately 10-15 minutes, two teams of officials questioned and searched selected tables of male patrons while the other officials maintained the perimeter. They made them stand with hands in the air then they patted them down and emptied their pockets after which the officials left both locations without incident.
*Reported by: Eriks and Seville.
No predictions just observations.
Mongers and chicas alike need to prepare for the likely transition of Sosua. Mongers should diversify locations and develop alternate means of contact and interacting with chicas and Sosua PFP chicas need to do the same. If we look at the actions of the Dominican government a pattern emerges. PFP establishments or personalities that were noticeably directly or indirectly connected to prostitution in Sosua have been adversely effected.
1. The owner of Passions was incarcerated for a period and his business was shut down.
2. Cuba-Dave the most vocal and visible advocate of Passions and CMP reportedly was asked to leave the Dominican Republic and not to return.
3. the'Latins one of Pedro Clisante's premier mongering venues was forced to close.
4. The owner of Rumba was briefly incarcerated and has left the Dominican Republic.
5. Most recently the primary promoter of the Victoria House pool parties was detained and extorted.
6. Armando Casciati the reported owner of Classicos has been arrested.
Peter of Passions, Bobby of Rumbas, Willie of the' Latin's and Armando of Classicos have become victims of the winds of change in Sosua. An observation of the evidence indicates that this thing of ours as we knew it in Sosua is on the decline and it is unknown what the future will hold. A reasonable observation based on the aforementioned pattern that the government's intention is to change the face of Sosua therefore those who are interested in Dominican Republic and Sosua specifically as a mongering destination need to be prepared to flow with the transition because those who are not prepared will not survive.
I suspect the intent is to reduce the activity in the tourist areas (or at least the most visible ones). It's utterly hypocritical, since prostitution is legal but I realize there is a difference between Dominicanized prostitution that is cultural and systemic and sex tourism that is blasted on the internet looks bad for the country. It remains to be seen how far the government will go with this crackdown.
Prostitution vs. Sex Tourism.
I have visited Casa de Citas & Car Washes in almost every place I have been in the Dominican Republic. These sex venues are a part of the Dominican landscape and exist in almost every corner of the country. The fact is that unless you are in a major area these places are for locals and not for tourist. In my experience going into these places you are looked at as if you are a aardvark in a zoo.
The problem with current events is not prostitution it is sex tourism. Prostitution is a part of the culture in the Dominican Republic and an unintended consequence has been the growth of sex tourism over the years. I evidence indicates the government is targeting sex tourism more than prostitution.
Toda La Noche.
If you like morning sex to satisfy the morning wood TLN might be the answer. Notice I said might? There are a few risk with TLN to include the chica wanting more money for less sex and skipping the morning session. Then there are those chicas who can sleep into the early afternoon. REALLY?
Unless you have previously been with a woman there is no way you can know if there will be sufficient chemistry for TLN and even when you know a chica she can switch up on you because they can be notoriously fickle.
Back when I first started in Sosua TLN implied sex in the morning and I often did not discuss it but received it, however recently it seems that with the microwave sex group of PFP chicas in Sosua they think mongers should pay them to sleep with them without sex in the morning. I have several problems with this mentality the first being the woman with this attitude has demonstrated that she does not want to please her client. The other problem is it is indicative of the laziness that these chicas have fallen into. Simply put they want more for less. What's worse is I have tried to communicate this to more than one chica and they really do not want to hear it.
How many jobs exist in the Dominican Republic where employers pay their employees to sleep? Such is the case when a monger pays for TLN and the situation is exasperated when the chica decides to leave in the morning without sealing the deal. The bottom line is that TLN can be a waste of time and money or a great investment as well as very enjoyable with a woman you have a connection with but buyers need to beware TLN can also be a risk.
C est La Vi Bar & Grill.
The see est La Vi Bar and Grill is next to Baileys, while walking to the strip everyday a camarera from the bar continued to smile at me so I got her digits and subsequently invited her to lunch at the Casa Cayena. We hit it off well and I invited her t my room so we could share Facebook photos one thing led to another and whalah!
The experience was one of the best of my trip because I got off my normal stomping grounds of Pedro Clisante and I approached her like a normal woman. At no time did we discuss sex or money it just happened. After a pleasant afternoon together I gave her something for her baby and she went to work. I will definitely try to repeat the process on future trips.
Tony Montana.
I have been coming to Sosua for an extended amount of time and have never been approached by Tony Montana or his representatives. For some reason I was hit a couple of times this trip. Although I do not deal with Tony Montana for personal and professional reasons the reality is that his business is a part of the scene in Sosua. This message is for newbies who may be unaware of the consequences of spending time with the wrong people. The Dominican Republic is a trans-shipment point for Tony Montana therefore it is readily accessible through moto-conchos or the chicas. It is obvious by the behavior of some of the street people of Sosua that they have been adversely affected by Tony Montana. My advice is there is entirely too much risk associated with Tony Montana in the Dominican Republic because those who spend time with him put themselves in the situation of getting set up and spending their vacation with a group of locked up Dominicanos as opposed to a group of free Dominicanas. Enough said.
Closing trip thoughts.
I will probably retire at the end of the month which will change my objectives going forward.
Sosua is still alive and well with plenty of action. We do not know what the future holds but those who enjoy Sosua can continue to do so for the time being.
Although I did not score apart from the Sosua chicas I believe my trip was very productive. I had an authentic Dominican experience in Bonao that taught me much about life and culture in the Dominican Republic. As well as I had an experience in Santiago that demonstrated regardless as to what status a chica is civilian-non pro, semi-pro or pro there are risk in this thing of ours and we have to learn to minimize those risk.
Sosua prices remain all over the map from the typical day time action of 1000-1500 DOP for ST to the night time action going anywhere from 1500-4000 DOP depending on how the chica values herself and your negotiation skills. Even though things are slow most 7 & 8 chicas that perceive themselves to be attractive are not taking less that 2000 DOP for ST and prefer a minimum of 2500 DOP for ST.
Another challenge mongers face with TLN encounters is what I call sleeping chicas. Many chicas feel that after your first nut they can sleep on your dime and not service you in the morning. I have been traveling to Sosua for an extended period of time and I have discovered that recently that is becoming common with chicas even when you have negotiated 2 leches. Going forward I would not do TLN with a chica I am not acquainted with and even then I would be skeptical. It makes no sense to me to pay an extra 1 or 2000 DOP just to hear a woman snore and take up space in your bed.
I ventured outside my normal Pedro Clisante stomping grounds and met a nice camarera who gave me the best experience of my trip. In hindsight in all my years in Sosua how I have neglected to walk through a door that has been open all the time.
I continue rejoice in the fact that todas las mujeres no son igual there are plenty of sharks in the Dominican Republic but there are plenty of dolphins also. This trip I spent time with a couple of civilian -non pro chicas that were more like dolphins than sharks, although there was no sex I believe there are good possibilities going forward.
Conclusion.
My next trip will be the second week in November with Tgunz we will be doing a Mao-Esperanza excursion. Since I will be retired I may stay a little longer than originally planned and hit some other spots as well as look for a place to live while I am in country. I will keep you guys posted.
I hope I'm not being crass, but what is the going rate for some pussy in DR? I don't want to pay too much and inflate prices nor do I want to be a cheap skate. I have never been there.
And planning my first trip there in January. Hope to get laid. How much should I pay the lady that helps me fulfill this vision?
Camaro in Sosua Synopsis October 2014.
Tony Montana.
I have been coming to Sosua for an extended amount of time and have never been approached by Tony Montana or his representatives. For some reason I was hit a couple of times this trip. Although I do not deal with Tony Montana for personal and professional reasons the reality is that his business is a part of the scene in Sosua. This message is for newbies who may be unaware of the consequences of spending time with the wrong people. The Dominican Republic is a trans-shipment point for Tony Montana therefore it is readily accessible through moto-conchos or the chicas. It is obvious by the behavior of some of the street people of Sosua that they have been adversely affected by Tony Montana. My advice is there is entirely too much risk associated with Tony Montana in the Dominican Republic because those who spend time with him put themselves in the situation of getting set up and spending their vacation with a group of locked up Dominicanos as opposed to a group of free Dominicanas. Enough said.
.If any one hears the name Tony Montana they need to just walk away and not return. Many vacations have ben ruined by this. Nothing worse than to be peaking out some window in the DR.
Thanks for reporting bro. You are enjoying life and living life to its fullest but don't get into a comfort zone yet. There are other opportunities awaiting you but you must let your mind grow. Think about the next level and you will be ahead of the game. If you don't grow to the next level you will be stuck in a game that will become boring and repetitious. The potential is there but you can't be afraid to let it express itself. Good luck bro.I got you MG. As you and tell I am a hot head but not a hard head. I do listen. Mr E gave me the Thai approval. I just can get passed the being on a plane that long. Mr. E can we use your jet, I know to got one.
If any one hears the name Tony Montana they need to just walk away and not return. Many vacations have ben ruined by this. Nothing worse than to be peaking out some window in the DR.Tony Montana what a joke. The guys tries to use word association to appeal to you order to sell you bullshit drugs. With all the bullshit that can happen buying from the guys. I just Say No. I have scene the Bahamas with better garbage weed from their street sellers. At least there they are less likely to working with the police.
Oh come on, man! It is perfectly obvious why she did not want to see you behind the girlfriend's back, and by hitting on her while the girlfriend was in the bathroom, you showed real class.It wasn't my fault, honest.
The devil made me do it!
Tempoecorto
10-12-14, 23:12
I hope I'm not being crass, but what is the going rate for some pussy in DR? I don't want to pay too much and inflate prices nor do I want to be a cheap skate. I have never been there.Read the Forum!
Charles Pooter
10-13-14, 01:40
Read the Forum!I believe the accepted phrase is "RTFF". I leave you to work out what the additional "F" stands for.
Tempoecorto
10-13-14, 16:10
I believe the accepted phrase is "RTFF". I just did not want to be crass even though such inane questions have been addressed hundreds of times for the benefit of the sloths.
I believe the accepted phrase is "RTFF". I leave you to work out what the additional "F" stands for.And I did RTFF. Can't find anything specific. I like to pay around 20 usd for a roll in the hay. Will that type of fiscal thinking get me far in DR?
RocheBrazi
10-13-14, 18:11
For 20 US you might get a blowjob or can mastrubate yourself.
I hope you know the Change Ratio of US $ to Pesos. When you really did read the Forums you would know that 20 $ will not bring you close to a Pussy.
And I did RTFF. Can't find anything specific. I like to pay around 20 usd for a roll in the hay. Will that type of fiscal thinking get me far in DR?
And I did RTFF. Can't find anything specific. I like to pay around 20 usd for a roll in the hay. Will that type of fiscal thinking get me far in DR?See one of my reports from about a week and a half ago with explicit detail as to what you can get for $ 20 US.
For 20 US you might get a blowjob or can mastrubate yourself.
I hope you know the Change Ratio of US $ to Pesos. When you really did read the Forums you would know that 20 $ will not bring you close to a Pussy.1,000 Pesos or about $ 23 can get you a lot in Sosua including a blowjob.
Charles Pooter
10-13-14, 18:41
When you really did read the Forums you would know that 20 $ will not bring you close to a Pussy.Not in the tourist areas where 99% of our reports come from, that is true. But this poster is thinking of biking off the beaten track. Plenty of attractive young girls in the boondocks who will fuck for 1000 pesos (US $23). Lonely says he speaks Spanish well. This is key.
Camaro1257
10-13-14, 19:46
I hope I'm not being crass, but what is the going rate for some pussy in DR? I don't want to pay too much and inflate prices nor do I want to be a cheap skate. I have never been there.
And planning my first trip there in January. Hope to get laid. How much should I pay the lady that helps me fulfill this vision?The below is an excerpt of my most recent trip report:
"Sosua prices remain all over the map from the typical day time action of 1000-1500 DOP for ST to the night time action going anywhere from 1500-4000 DOP depending on how the chica values herself and your negotiation skills. Even though things are slow most 7 & 8 chicas that perceive themselves to be attractive are not taking less that 2000 DOP for ST and prefer a minimum of 2500 DOP for ST. ".
The below is an excerpt of my most recent trip report:
"Sosua prices remain all over the map from the typical day time action of 1000-1500 DOP for ST to the night time action going anywhere from 1500-4000 DOP depending on how the chica values herself and your negotiation skills. Even though things are slow most 7 & 8 chicas that perceive themselves to be attractive are not taking less that 2000 DOP for ST and prefer a minimum of 2500 DOP for ST. ".I only pay for short time 1,000 pesos which is $23 and that gets me a BBBJ, to completion if I want, and a nice fuck, covered. I get that on a regular basis, my spanish is very good. Granted that is in SD not Sousoua but I would have to believe that I can get that anywhere on the island.
Tempoecorto
10-13-14, 21:00
Not in the tourist areas where 99% of our reports come from, that is true. But this poster is thinking of biking off the beaten track. Plenty of attractive young girls in the boondocks who will fuck for 1000 pesos (US $23). Lonely says he speaks Spanish well. This is key.There are people here who also say they do not pay anything. It is the women who pay for the privilege. Perhaps one can get that treatment in this case as well, what with speaking Spanish and then the whole point of money exchange is moot.
Parkinsons
10-14-14, 03:17
Not in the tourist areas where 99% of our reports come from, that is true. But this poster is thinking of biking off the beaten track. Plenty of attractive young girls in the boondocks who will fuck for 1000 pesos (US $23). Lonely says he speaks Spanish well. This is key.Lonely is going to pay what Lonely is used to pay - $20, regardless of what we tell him. HE asked for advice on biking, we warned him against it, HE said HE's going to ride, just like HE's been. In other countries. HE said HE's used to pay $20 for pussy, then HE comes to ask us. We tell him differently. Guess what? HE's going to say well I'm cool with $20.
Lonely is going to pay what Lonely is used to pay - $20, regardless of what we tell him. HE asked for advice on biking, we warned him against it, HE said HE's going to ride, just like HE's been. In other countries. HE said HE's used to pay $20 for pussy, then HE comes to ask us. We tell him differently. Guess what? HE's going to say well I'm cool with $20.You say it like I ignore the things you guys tell me. That is not so. I go sky diving from time to time. I always ask all the questions that I can think of before a jump. I learn everything.
Available about wind, landing hazards for that field, powerlines, ect. Before committing to leaving a perfectly good airplane. I apply that model to every endeavor I participate in. And.
I am applying it now. I believe I have good intel on pussy prices, thanks to this post thread. In Sousa expect to pay near 50 usd, away from the cities I can expect to pay much less.
That is what I needed to know. Thank you and I appreciate you sharing information with me.
You say it like I ignore the things you guys tell me. That is not so. I go sky diving from time to time. I always ask all the questions that I can think of before a jump. I learn everything.
Available about wind, landing hazards for that field, powerlines, ect. Before committing to leaving a perfectly good airplane. I apply that model to every endeavor I participate in. And.
I am applying it now. I believe I have good intel on pussy prices, thanks to this post thread. In Sousa expect to pay near 50 usd, away from the cities I can expect to pay much less.
That is what I needed to know. Thank you and I appreciate you sharing information with me.You have gone from $ 20 to $ 50 US and you say you have good intel on pussy prices so where does the $ 50 figure come from when several members on this board including myself have informed you that 1,000 Pesos or approximately $ 23 US is easily doable in Sosua.
If your fluent in Spanish you can have a field day in Sosua and can figure that $ 50 will get you at least two ST sessions.
You have gone from $ 20 to $ 50 US and you say you have good intel on pussy prices so where does the $ 50 figure come from when several members on this board including myself have informed you that 1,000 Pesos or approximately $ 23 US is easily doable in Sosua.
If your fluent in Spanish you can have a field day in Sosua and can figure that $ 50 will get you at least two ST sessions.I hope you know the Change Ratio of US $ to Pesos. When you really did read the Forums you would know that 20 $ will not bring you close to a Pussy.
Considering the above post. Someone does not know what they are talking about.
I hope you know the Change Ratio of US $ to Pesos. When you really did read the Forums you would know that 20 $ will not bring you close to a Pussy.
Considering the above post. Someone does not know what they are talking about.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=210745&stc=1&d=1413325121
Charles Pooter
10-14-14, 23:20
I go sky diving from time to time. If you do that in the DR, don't let a Dominican pack your parachute. I wouldn't trust one to pack my lunchbox.
If you do that in the DR, don't let a Dominican pack your parachute. I wouldn't trust one to pack my lunchbox.I will only be practicing muff diving in DR. Uhhh. Looks like I'm going to get a ticket to land in PP. I have several numbers from DC. Can anyone suggest GF friendly hotels.
In PP under 50 bucks per night? I may want to invite some of these ladies to visit me. Lonely.
I hope you know the Change Ratio of US $ to Pesos. When you really did read the Forums you would know that 20 $ will not bring you close to a Pussy.
Considering the above post. Someone does not know what they are talking about.The exchange rate is at least 43.5 Pesos to the the dollar which at $ 20 US will equal 918 Pesos. Your statement that $ 20 will not bring you close to Pussy is not valid. You said I should read the forums. It's one thing to read the reports in the forum, and another to post actual trip reports based on actual experiences in the DR. Several members have stated that 1,000 Pesos or $ 23 will get you full service and more. Perhaps you were injured while sky-diving and have difficulty with exchange rates, math, and reading comprehension.
The exchange rate is at least 43.5 Pesos to the the dollar which at $ 20 US will equal 918 Pesos. Your statement that $ 20 will not bring you close to Pussy is not valid. You said I should read the forums. It's one thing to read the reports in the forum, and another to post actual trip reports based on actual experiences in the DR. Several members have stated that 1,000 Pesos or $ 23 will get you full service and more. Perhaps you were injured while sky-diving and have difficulty with exchange rates, math, and reading comprehension.To be a little bit more accurate if the exchange rate is at least 43.5 to the dollar that would mean that:
20 USDx43.5 DOP=870 DOP.
At this rate 918 DOP=21.1 USD (approximately). I am guessing that there was some rounding off, which explains the discrepancy.
If you go to XE Currency the exchange rate as of 10/15/14 is 43.7950 DOP (which sounds unusually high to me! At this rate:
20 USDx43.795 DOP=875.899 DOP.
In all due respect to everyone, yeah, you can get action for about $20 (I've done it).
You can get action in Camden and atlantic city nj to for 20.00 But if it's 20.00 personally I don't want it. I been to DR many times. I don't want what you get for 20.00 just saying!
To be a little bit more accurate if the exchange rate is at least 43.5 to the dollar that would mean that:
20 USDx43.5 DOP=870 DOP.
At this rate 918 DOP=21.1 USD (approximately). I am guessing that there was some rounding off, which explains the discrepancy.
If you go to XE Currency the exchange rate as of 10/15/14 is 43.7950 DOP (which sounds unusually high to me! At this rate:
20 USDx43.795 DOP=875.899 DOP.
In all due respect to everyone, yeah, you can get action for about $20 (I've done it).
You don't even need to be fluent in Spanish to do that. You can sit at any of the little scrungy bars in Sosua and the girls will come. I often sit at the little corner bar across from rumba (there is a heavy set Dominican girl that has bartended there for many years. She is nice and reflects a normal side of living in the dr. I always stop by and have a few drinks and leave her a nice tip) and there's always 20.00working girls there. I buy them a beer but would never do anything with them.
You have gone from $ 20 to $ 50 US and you say you have good intel on pussy prices so where does the $ 50 figure come from when several members on this board including myself have informed you that 1,000 Pesos or approximately $ 23 US is easily doable in Sosua.
If your fluent in Spanish you can have a field day in Sosua and can figure that $ 50 will get you at least two ST sessions.
Most guys on here just read reports with out posting and most of them have all the info 1 would need for getting pussy as cheap or as much as 1 would want to pay. In the DR people need money and they need it now. Some and most just need what money can buy so if you are willing to take care of them you can get out for the price of food and clothing.
For the guys who say lonely cannot get pussy for 20 dollars they just don't really know the true DR.
Good looking pussy can be had I know for 500 pesos around the Island but if you want it cheaper it may cost you in the long run buying food and whatever they may want or need.
This is a amazing country where 1 can find him self and after doing so HE can find many young willing women to have fun with at a reasonable price.
As long as you have gasoline in your auto you can never really be lost.
Most guys on here just read reports with out posting and most of them have all the info 1 would need for getting pussy as cheap or as much as 1 would want to pay. In the DR people need money and they need it now. Some and most just need what money can buy so if you are willing to take care of them you can get out for the price of food and clothing.
For the guys who say lonely cannot get pussy for 20 dollars they just don't really know the true DR.
It appears as though Lonely is the only one who thinks HE cannot get pussy for $ 20 US in the DR.
Marc Anthony
10-15-14, 15:24
Price.
The price of chicas in the DR is very stable overall but like everywhere varies based on a lot of factors.
When I first went there in 2002 the standard price was 500 pesos ST, 1000 toda la noche. The exchange rate was 16:1 so a little over $30ST. Standard price meaning for a visiting extranjero, a chica 18-25 of average quality, other things being equal.
There is a strong gravitational pull of the price to round numbers. Payment is in cash. Even for ordinary transactions getting change can be a problem. So with exchange at 43:1 the ST price is 1500, but that's still rounding up a bit so offers at 1000 while below the line make sense. In a situation with bargaining or uncertainty it means the asking price is 3000 or 2 x the expected clearing price just as it would be for fish or platanos.
If there is the prospect for repeat business or ongoing greater benefits then the price changes. Expats can be patient and selective and also are prospects for on going business so they pay less. There is also much less risk of harm from a known local resident than a stranger and the more known the more comfortable the transaction. This is essentially the same for all business.
The cost of doing business changes price. Part of the cost for a chica is how pleasant or unpleasant the experience is. If the customer courts her, is clean, tries to be an attentive lover, treats her respectfully like a novia ,the cost is much lower. If he's an asshole who treats her badly the cost is high.
BTW, while dollars are accepted by chicas and most businesses, they are discounted from the regular exchange so $20 won't get 860 pesos worth of platanos or pussy.
You don't even need to be fluent in Spanish to do that. You can sit at any of the little scrungy bars in Sosua and the girls will come. I often sit at the little corner bar across from rumba (there is a heavy set Dominican girl that has bartended there for many years. She is nice and reflects a normal side of living in the dr. I always stop by and have a few drinks and leave her a nice tip) and there's always 20.00working girls there. I buy them a beer but would never do anything with them.The same holds true for the majority of the girls hanging around Bar Central.
If a chica asks for a too high price and sticks to it even after negotiation, I move on. If I go to a casa with a fixed price and don't see any one worth that price, I move on.
I believe in treating the chicas with respect. Part of being respectful is fair pay for good service. Sometimes you get bad service for the agreed price, but then shit happens. I will give girls who give me exceptional service more than those of similar attributes with poor attitudes, by means of a propina.
Thank you. Not hard to understand that!!
If a chica asks for a too high price and sticks to it even after negotiation, I move on. If I go to a casa with a fixed price and don't see any one worth that price, I move on.
I believe in treating the chicas with respect. Part of being respectful is fair pay for good service. Sometimes you get bad service for the agreed price, but then shit happens. I will give girls who give me exceptional service more than those of similar attributes with poor attitudes, by means of a propina.
You don't even need to be fluent in Spanish to do that. You can sit at any of the little scrungy bars in Sosua and the girls will come. I always stop by and have a few drinks and there's always 20.00working girls there. Good info for the new guys.
This is what the new Sosua will look like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrRirXT-6d8&feature=youtu.be
Mongerer69
10-20-14, 03:01
OMG I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
This is what the new Sosua will look like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrRirXT-6d8&feature=youtu.be
OMG I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.I went there once with a reservation way before Wilfried had CC. They basically didn't give a shit I was there so I walked out. First night I spent at Rocky's which was cool but HE was booked the rest of the week. I walked to NG and spent the rest of my time there. I think the mayor is trying to convey the mindset to all comerce in Sosua.
Crossfire1
10-21-14, 20:02
It's been a very long time since I have posted anything to this board especially a trip report with pics. Like many of you, I have stopped posting pics chicas that I have taken during my trips, because of Captin Save a Ho. You know him. HE is the guy that runs back and tells the chica that her picture is on the internet. Then the chica is mad at you when you return. So I have come up with a way of posting pics that can not be traced back to me. I will tell my stories using the pictures posted by the chica herself, from her Whatsapp account. I don't use Facebook but I'm sure that pictures from there would get the job done just the same. Many chicas change their pictures on Whatsapp about once or twice a week so I can gather a few pics. I still take personal pics of the Chicas during my trips but I will not post those pics. I will keep them private.
So let me say that the down side to communicating with chicas on Whatsapp is, you will always get that fuckin RFM. That's Request For Money as Cuba Dave calls it.
So let me start by posting pics of my 1st Chica. Carolina. Many of you will recognize her as one of the bartenders from the Latins or from Marengue Bar. I met her When she was at the Latins Bar. She played the good girl, I'm not a puta role. To be honest she never asked me for money and my night with her was like a regular date. No talk of money. The sex was great and she left at about 5 am. Of course I took care of her and I was generous with the pesos. It only took a few week of talking on Whatsapp before she hit with the RFM. I had to let her know that, I am not Captin Save a Ho. When I said no she had no more time to talk. Oh Well on to the next one.
Hope fully many of you will find this method of illustrating your trips without having to worry about future problems coming back to haunt you. And maybe there will be more trip reports.
Crossfire1
10-21-14, 21:47
This is Claribel. I met her in one of the many now closed bars of Sosua. When I first met her she didn't stand out. She was just one of many chicas that was eyeing me like a tiger eyes a baby dear. Later that night Claribel managed to corner me in one of the crowed standing room only Discostecas. She took that opportunity to show me that she was more than just legs and ass. She had a fun and perky personality. Claribel wasted no time and turned that ass around to grind on me, while I was trapped up against the bar. This girl had legs for days. It was nice to see a sexy natural body, now that a lot of the girls in Sosua are running around with the fake culos. I knew that I had too to take her for the night. Back at the room she didn't disappoint me. We had a great time. At the end of the night, I walked her to the Motochonco she gave me her number and told me to text her on Whatsapp. I took the number and gave her the standard fare for time well spent. Later during the trip she wanted to repeat with me, and I with her. But there was just too many chicas and not enough time.
It was not long after I got back home, that I received that Fuckin RFM. Of course like all the other chicas, they have no time for friends if you are not going to send them money. Needless to say I didn't send the money and we are no longer friends. Que Bueno.
The pics below were taken from her Whatsapp account. I will keep the pictures I took of our activities in the room private.
Pics are great. Both girls are smoking hot. I am totally in love with the blonde.
Crossfire1
10-21-14, 22:50
I know that "The Amazon" is a place but I like to use it to describe this next chica. Meet Christina. Truth be told, I didn't even fuck this chica, even though we had a few drinks together and dance together a few days over my trip. I met her during the day,. At the now closed City Lights. She was staying at one of the rooms there. She would come over on a daily basis and drink and dance with me, all in an effort to get me to go with her. She even tried the old "You don't have to give me any money" trick. This girl was a wild one. There is nothing tamed about this girl at all. I passed on her because she didn't have a cedula. I could have gotten around this but I just don't mess around too much with chicas that don't have a cedula. When she is in heels she stands well over 6 feet tall. Hopefully she will have a cedula by the time I make my next trip. Maybe someone else can tell us how she was in the room.
The below pics are from her Whatsapp account. I will keep the pictures that I took with her private.
Crossfire1
10-21-14, 22:58
I forgot to mention that this chica is all natural. She has a truly amazing ass and flat stomach.
Crossfire1
10-21-14, 23:07
Pics are great. Both girls are smoking hot. I am totally in love with the blonde.I'm glad that you like the pics. After that video of the new Sosua, I figured this board needs an injection of inspiration to get it back to what it should be all about.
I'm glad that you like the pics. After that video of the new Sosua, I figured this board needs an injection of inspiration to get it back to what it should be all about.Damned right!
Thanks for the pics and your take on the girls.
It's been a very long time since I have posted anything to this board especially a trip report with pics. Like many of you, I have stopped posting pics chicas that I have taken during my trips, because of Captin Save a Ho. You know him. HE is the guy that runs back and tells the chica that her picture is on the internet. Then the chica is mad at you when you return. So I have come up with a way of posting pics that can not be traced back to me. I will tell my stories using the pictures posted by the chica herself, from her Whatsapp account. I don't use Facebook but I'm sure that pictures from there would get the job done just the same. Many chicas change their pictures on Whatsapp about once or twice a week so I can gather a few pics. I still take personal pics of the Chicas during my trips but I will not post those pics. I will keep them private.
So let me say that the down side to communicating with chicas on Whatsapp is, you will always get that fuckin RFM. That's Request For Money as Cuba Dave calls it.
So let me start by posting pics of my 1st Chica. Carolina. Many of you will recognize her as one of the bartenders from the Latins or from Marengue Bar. I met her When she was at the Latins Bar. She played the good girl, I'm not a puta role. To be honest she never asked me for money and my night with her was like a regular date. No talk of money. The sex was great and she left at about 5 am. Of course I took care of her and I was generous with the pesos. It only took a few week of talking on Whatsapp before she hit with the RFM. I had to let her know that, I am not Captin Save a Ho. When I said no she had no more time to talk. Oh Well on to the next one.
Hope fully many of you will find this method of illustrating your trips without having to worry about future problems coming back to haunt you. And maybe there will be more trip reports.I've already been accused of being Oakie down there.
Not hard to figure when I've given blow by blow descriptions of all my trips, and my connections, with the occasional pics.
You have to understand that a lot of Sosua regulars (chicas, bar, restaurant and hotel owners) are familiar with this board and read it like a newspaper.
Oh well, all of what I post is the truth as I see it, and I'm generally respectful of the inmates, so who cares.
You know what's funny. I been on these boards for years. I could careless about pictures on this board. And I never ask who this chica is or that chica is? Because I could careless about fucking some ho. I ind a girl be fun and make a deal. It always makes me cringe guys ask who fucked who? Get the fuck out of herd. I don't want to know wwho fucked my ho.
I've already been accused of being Oakie down there.
Not hard to figure when I've given blow by blow descriptions of all my trips, and my connections, with the occasional pics.
You have to understand that a lot of Sosua regulars (chicas, bar, restaurant and hotel owners) are familiar with this board and read it like a newspaper.
Oh well, all of what I post is the truth as I see it, and I'm generally respectful of the inmates, so who cares.
Crossfire1
10-22-14, 00:56
Rosy was my favorite of the trip when I met her. I was in Latins Bar mid way through my trip. I was tired of the same ol puta, many of whom I had fucked on previous trips. Then there was rosy standing in front of me. I talked and dance with her, to get to know her, as much as one could in a club. I found out that we had really good chemistry. In the room she was great. Pictures and videos of our activities was no problem for her. We had so much fun, that I had to repeat with her. Sure there were sexier girls out there, but I had the most fun with rosy on that trip. But like all chicas, I received that fuckin RFM. So, it's on to the next one.
The pics below are from her Whatsapp account. I will not post the pics of my activities with Rosy. I will keep them private.
Tempoecorto
10-22-14, 01:14
I know that "The Amazon" is a place but I like to use it to describe this next chica. "The Amazon" is a place? I always thought it was a website!
Crossfire1
10-22-14, 01:21
The amount of trip reports has lulled. I'm not talking about post. I'm talking about people's post that actually give information about a trip or chicas. Maybe you enjoy the pics. Maybe not. I just hope that more people will find a way to talk about the fun they had on their trips. My way to add pics is just a way to keep me out of drama. I have been going to DR since 2006 and I have had enough of drama and I don't enjoy it. Everyone handles drama differently. My method of posting pics is for the guy who would like to illustrate his trip report with out the drama. For those who don't care about pics, just read the reports. I hope you enjoy the short stories.
SavePros321
10-22-14, 01:23
The pics below were taken from her Whatsapp account. I will keep the pictures I took of our activities in the room private.Those chicas are awesome! But my question is: Where is that place with the blue painted walls (with your "Legs for Days" chica)?
SavePros321
10-22-14, 01:40
So let me say that the down side to communicating with chicas on Whatsapp is, you will always get that fuckin RFM. That's Request For Money as Cuba Dave calls it.
I've always found that the best way to beat this is to match their lies with even greater lies. One or more fictitious relatives have had a varying degree of ailments that required my fiscal support at various times during my mongering career.
The next time a chica asks you for money, tell her you can't send any because you are helping to pay for your mother's cousin's nephew's aunt's treatment for Anal Fistula Ebola. If you want to add a touch of realism to it, take a picture of your asshole sprinkled with cracked pepper and then whatsapp it to her.
Never had to go to that extreme myself though :D
Crossfire1
10-22-14, 02:07
I've always found that the best way to beat this is to match their lies with even greater lies. One or more fictitious relatives have had a varying degree of ailments that required my fiscal support at various times during my mongering career.
The next time a chica asks you for money, tell her you can't send any because you are helping to pay for your mother's cousin's nephew's aunt's treatment for Anal Fistula Ebola. If you want to add a touch of realism to it, take a picture of your asshole sprinkled with cracked pepper and then whatsapp it to her.
Never had to go to that extreme myself though :DLOL! You are killing me. I used to tell them crazy stories about my money problems (never anything as creative as your story), but the result is the same. They don't have time for friend that are smart enough to not send them money. So now I just say no.
I've always found that the best way to beat this is to match their lies with even greater lies. One or more fictitious relatives have had a varying degree of ailments that required my fiscal support at various times during my mongering career.
The next time a chica asks you for money, tell her you can't send any because you are helping to pay for your mother's cousin's nephew's aunt's treatment for Anal Fistula Ebola. If you want to add a touch of realism to it, take a picture of your asshole sprinkled with cracked pepper and then whatsapp it to her.
Never had to go to that extreme myself though :DLOL.
But I've found the simplest way that works for me is to tell 'em, lo siento, I'm all out of dinero. I tell her I 'm still paying off the last trip, and saving up for the next.
Don't have to lie or insult her (if I want her to be hot and eager next time). I'm talking about a regular, of course.
Sometimes the truth can work better than bullshit.
SavePros321
10-22-14, 03:21
Sometimes the truth can work better than bullshit.I hear you, but what I have found that works for me is to assume they are bullshiting you. Like the RFM she sends you is probably copied / pasted and sent to her entire gringo contacts list. Even if it is just 10 gringos that receive the same RFM, all it takes is one sucker to bite. The Nigerians have mastered this art long ago.
Paging Seor GrownMan: special request to see the fake clinica photos a chica sent you before. I think she even went so far as to put a fake IV tube in her arm, LOL!
Grandnash84
10-22-14, 06:09
The amount of trip reports has lulled. I'm not talking about post. I'm talking about people's post that actually give information about a trip or chicas. Maybe you enjoy the pics. Maybe not. I just hope that more people will find a way to talk about the fun they had on their trips. My way to add pics is just a way to keep me out of drama. I have been going to DR since 2006 and I have had enough of drama and I don't enjoy it. Everyone handles drama differently. My method of posting pics is for the guy who would like to illustrate his trip report with out the drama. For those who don't care about pics, just read the reports. I hope you enjoy the short stories.Thanks for posting the pics, more please LOL.
Crossfire1
10-22-14, 06:15
"The Amazon" is a place? I always thought it was a website!LOL,
The website is Amazon not The Amazon.
Hay payasos aquí esta noche.
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