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Starting with the first chica. 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 7, 8, and 8 just my opinion. Thats a damn good line up CL. I would have had a few chocolates in the mix but I like your style.What's up with you Grownman, none of those darllngs had a big phat ass on them. Are you leaning towards the more flaca Chicas these days?
SavePros321
12-31-14, 04:43
Check this video from http://dominicanrepublic.adultsearch.com/sosua/ some info is outdated (Passion and CMP still opened) but still I think it has some useful information and will give you guys great memories. It covers Sosua, Puerto Plata, Cabarette, Santiago, Babaro, la Romana, Juan Dolio, Boca chica, etc. Hope you enjoy the video as I did.
CerebroI was actually somewhat disappointed in that video. I was looking to return to the DR this year, but nothing in that video would have drawn me there (well, maybe one or two). I know that there are some hot women in the DR, but that video did not do them any justice.
I guess Colombia has me spoiled, LOL.
Post the link.Great report Mr. GoGo;.
IMHO $120 is nothing compared to passion and quite frankly if you don't want her I'll take her off your hands and will joyously handle her with care. Its a no-brainer.
Member #4398
12-31-14, 13:51
I was actually somewhat disappointed in that video. I was looking to return to the DR this year, but nothing in that video would have drawn me there (well, maybe one or two). I know that there are some hot women in the DR, but that video did not do them any justice.
I guess Colombia has me spoiled, LOL.Savepros321,
A lot of comparisons and a big debate could start here of which are the best, the Dominican women or the Colombianas. In beauty, the girls in Medellin top the Dominicans. For sweetness and GFE experience, the Dominicans top the Colombianas. The DR video has a good portray of the girls's quality around the country. There is another video from Medellin and in that video you could also see many Colombian fatties and ugly girls in the low class establishments, bars, brothels. I like women from both the DR and Colombia. You might like the Medellin video better since Colombia has spoiled you:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/
I have to say about 50% of my encounters in the DR were terrible. Straight up "Leche Papi" after 3 minutes type chicas. Another 40% were just average, nothing to write home about. And the final 10% were good. Not even one super star or amazing session in all the girls I had on my last trip.If you want enthusiastic chicas who would f. K your brains out with porn star sex do not go to Sosua, go to other countries like Brazil and Argentina. If you want to be in a pleasant environment where you can walk around in shorts, chat with blokes with similar interests, relax at the beach and indulge in sea side activities and when you get the urge grab a chica and release the tension, if it does'nt work the first time then go out and grab another, then Sosua is your place.
What's up with you Grownman, none of those darllngs had a big phat ass on them. Are you leaning towards the more flaca Chicas these days?It's not the big butts that I like it's the phat firm asses with slender waist. Athletically built or TrackStar bodies. Hey Chris draw a mustache and or beard on you chicas and watch surfer go crazy.
SavePros321
12-31-14, 14:28
For sweetness and GFE experience, the Dominicans top the Colombianas. That is definitely not the sentiment if you read the last page and a half in the forum. Mostly everyone is saying the exact opposite. You even have guys suggesting to others that they need to go as far as Brazil and Argentina for better service (either destination doesn't sound like a bad idea either).
In my observation it seems that the further you get away from the USA/USA Tourists en mass, the better attitude the women will have.
Sosua: Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor/rushed service.
San Jose (Costa Rica): Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor/rushed service.
The places that are too far to have a large USA Tourists presence don't have as many complaints as the two places listed above. Sure, there will be a handful of p4 p women who will turn out to be duds, but I haven't seen it as prevalent as the DR or CR.
As far as Dominicanas vs. Colombianas when it comes to GFE: I can only speak for myself, but I consistently get the "wife experience" (new wife, lol) while I am there. I would not go there so often otherwise.
I have decided to visit Rio de Janeiro for the first time in 2015, so I'll eventually be able to add another dimension to the discussion about chicas/countries/service levels.
Member #4398
12-31-14, 14:54
That is definitely not the sentiment if you read the last page and a half in the forum. Mostly everyone is saying the exact opposite. You even have guys suggesting to others that they need to go as far as Brazil and Argentina for better service (either destination doesn't sound like a bad idea either).
In my observation it seems that the further you get away from the USA / USA Tourists en mass, the better attitude the women will have.
Sosua: Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor / rushed service.
San Jose (Costa Rica): Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor / rushed service.
The places that are too far to have a large USA Tourists presence don't have as many complaints as the two places listed above. Sure, there will be a handful of p4 p women who will turn out to be duds, but I haven't seen it as prevalent as the DR or CR.
As far as Dominicanas vs. Colombianas when it comes to GFE: I can only speak for myself, but I consistently get the "wife experience" (new wife, lol) while I am there. I would not go there so often otherwise.Savepros321,
Your observations are interesting. I guess the experience vary from person to person. In my case, I tend to encounter more GFE in the DR in a first encounter with a girl than in Colombia. Also, I speak Spanish and am Dominican born too. Maybe that is the reason. After a GFE experience with a DR girl, I have often been asked if I want a girlfriend or to be their boyfriend and I always end up saying sorry that I am not looking for a long term relationship or girlfriend. During a first encounter with a girl in Colombia, that GFE experience has not happened to me that often.
Giving these girls gifts is good but guys when giving these girls dildo's please quit giving them these big ass ball bats. The women love them but it is making there stuff to stretched out for most of us regular size people. It is cool to give them one just bring the smaller version
Anna called me before Thanksgiving asking for 120 dollars and I stopped taking her calls refusing her request. I haven't talked to her until last week when I got soft and called to wish her Merry Christmas. She was so excited she screamed and then cried. I was thinking that I almost lost the best sex partner I've ever had over 120 lousy dollars. Parkinsons report made me evaluate the situation. I'm approaching middle age and good sex might not be available as I'm getting older, do I stick with the hour fucks with a condom in Sosua or do I make an investment in this good pussy? I'm headed back to Cuba soon and realize I have to spend money to maintain my contacts and good pussy, but will I do it?With all due respect Sir you are a recovering westing union attic and you are trying to rationalize the possibility of you relapsing. $120 is nothing but we're not talking about the money we talking about the principal. You know damn well from your own experience that it won't be a one time thing. I'm surprised Tom, Ghostface or Save Pro have not got onto your ass. You Joe Fraziered her your second round and now you about to get rope a doped. Time has made you respect your money more of course you going to lose friends. Fake ones. You said it yourself you didn't send her the money however you talk to her and she wasn't mad at you for not sending it. Some chicas are pressured by relatives, friends, boyfriends to ask there gringo friends for money. Some chicas it's just the MO of the game. They say an older man does with money what a younger man does with love. But since we are talking about our hobby in which we all pay. A wise monger pays less and get more with less headaches. You are too wise to relegate my brother. I'm wondering why no season vet has commented on this post.
SavePros321
12-31-14, 16:04
Giving these girls gifts is good but guys when giving these girls dildo's please quit giving them these big ass ball bats. The women love them but it is making there stuff to stretched out for most of us regular size people. It is cool to give them one just bring the smaller versionReally? I thought it was the sheer number of bambinos they were popping out, LOL!
Savepros321,
Your observations are interesting. I guess the experience vary from person to person. In my case, I tend to encounter more GFE in the DR in a first encounter with a girl than in Colombia. Also, I speak Spanish and am Dominican born too. Maybe that is the reason. After a GFE experience with a DR girl, I have often been asked if I want a girlfriend or to be their boyfriend and I always end up saying sorry that I am not looking for a long term relationship or girlfriend. During a first encounter with a girl in Colombia, that GFE experience has not happened to me that often.I lived some years in Colombia and I can confirm that Colombian chicas can be very hot in bed and also very sweet.
But for a man in the forties or fifties ist not so easy to have a GFE with a young girl like in the DR. In this respect, Colombia has changed a lot in the last ten years. 10 or 15 years ago Colombia had a so bad reputation that only a few Americans and Europeans traveled to Colombia. At these times as a foreigner you easily could have a lot of girls even without paying. Nowadays Colombian girls are no longer so naive, unfortunately.
Giving these girls gifts is good but guys when giving these girls dildo's please quit giving them these big ass ball bats. The women love them but it is making there stuff to stretched out for most of us regular size people. It is cool to give them one just bring the smaller versionLOL I remember seeing a chica who had her photo on Whatsapp with a dildo about the size of my arm in the background. She lost my potential business. You big size mongers stop showing off or I'm going to show chicas pictures you posted of them on this forum again. LOL.
SavePros321
12-31-14, 16:30
I'm surprised Tom, Ghostface or Save Pro have not got onto your ass. You Joe Fraziered her your second round and now you about to get rope a doped. Time has made you respect your money more of course you going to lose friends. Fake ones. You said it yourself you didn't send her the money however you talk to her and she wasn't mad at you for not sending it. Some chicas are pressured by relatives, friends, boyfriends to ask there gringo friends for money. Some chicas it's just the MO of the game. They say an older man does with money what a younger man does with love. But since we are talking about our hobby in which we all pay. A wise monger pays less and get more with less headaches. You are too wise to relegate my brother. I'm wondering why no season vet has commented on this post.I cannot comment because we have two entirely different dynamics. When I read his post (about trying to lock down good pussy at his age because it may be drying up due to him getting older) it's something that I cannot relate to because I am not yet at that age / stage in my life. But who knows? It will eventually be a reality a lot of us young bucks will have to face in the future. His post holds more weight to me (than some newbie who's been in Sosua two minutes and has decided he's found his future wife) because Gogo has been in this longer and more frequently than most of us combined. I would ask you to take note of his post because it could be seen as a rare glimpse into your future when it comes to aging and still trying to lock in GFE.
Also, he is talking about a chick in Cuba. From what I understand the place is still largely unspoiled by American Gringos, unlike the DR. A Dominican chica you meet on DC has no shame in asking you to send her money five minutes after messaging with her. I don't know what that is like with Cuban women because I've never been to Cuba or have any insight as to their Modus Operandi. The young buck in me says "all women are the same". But as my young ass starts to age, I might also be singing a different tune, hahaha. You never know bro.
He's gotten a lot of mentoring from Bq Ribs: a guy in the position Gogo is trying to get to (retired and living in the DR full time). Bq would know better than any of us, but he does not post on the forum anymore.
With all due respect Sir you are a recovering westing union attic and you are trying to rationalize the possibility of you relapsing. $120 is nothing but we're not talking about the money we talking about the principal. You know damn well from your own experience that it won't be a one time thing. I'm surprised Tom, Ghostface or Save Pro have not got onto your ass. You Joe Fraziered her your second round and now you about to get rope a doped. Time has made you respect your money more of course you going to lose friends. Fake ones. You said it yourself you didn't send her the money however you talk to her and she wasn't mad at you for not sending it. Some chicas are pressured by relatives, friends, boyfriends to ask there gringo friends for money. Some chicas it's just the MO of the game. They say an older man does with money what a younger man does with love. But since we are talking about our hobby in which we all pay. A wise monger pays less and get more with less headaches. You are too wise to relegate my brother. I'm wondering why no season vet has commented on this post.Advice appreciated brother. As we get older we don't really care about principal as much as we care about finding our happiness. Principal can be based on how you want other people to perceive you. Your friend Fresh is kicking out about 13 k a year to find his happiness, and I respect that, but 120 a few times a year for great sex is respectable for me. This coming from a chica who never asks for money when I'm there.
We will have many years together in this game brother and I can see in the near future you emailing me telling you found"The one" and I'm going to ride you hard at first, but once I see you are serious I'm going to roll with any choice you make. Its a growth process bro and the clock is ticking so we have to appreciate the special things that come our way. If we keep passing on good things we could possibly have a life of regret. I've fucked up good things so much in my life that I'm an expert now at not fucking up a good thing. I'm never getting married so don't think it will go that far, but a nice, little, sexy honey that serves it up like I like it and gets me to bust powerful nuts could be coming soon.
With all due respect Sir you are a recovering westing union attic and you are trying to rationalize the possibility of you relapsing. $120 is nothing but we're not talking about the money we talking about the principal. You know damn well from your own experience that it won't be a one time thing. I'm surprised Tom, Ghostface or Save Pro have not got onto your ass. You Joe Fraziered her your second round and now you about to get rope a doped. Time has made you respect your money more of course you going to lose friends. Fake ones. You said it yourself you didn't send her the money however you talk to her and she wasn't mad at you for not sending it. Some chicas are pressured by relatives, friends, boyfriends to ask there gringo friends for money. Some chicas it's just the MO of the game. They say an older man does with money what a younger man does with love. But since we are talking about our hobby in which we all pay. A wise monger pays less and get more with less headaches. You are too wise to relegate my brother. I'm wondering why no season vet has commented on this post.I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.
Member #4398
12-31-14, 17:27
If you want enthusiastic chicas who would f. K your brains out with porn star sex do not go to Sosua, go to other countries like Brazil and Argentina. If you want to be in a pleasant environment where you can walk around in shorts, chat with blokes with similar interests, relax at the beach and indulge in sea side activities and when you get the urge grab a chica and release the tension, if it does'nt work the first time then go out and grab another, then Sosua is your place.About the Brazilian women fucking your brains out that all depends on the woman. I was married to a Brazilian woman. She had an amazing body and a superb bubble ass, but she was the most frustrating to have because she was stuck up as hell and selfish and fuck only when she wanted to. I was frustrated sexually most of the time. After I divorce the witch I became a monger.
I speak to BQ regularly and our relationship in the past has kind of been the same as me and Grownman now. I always told him to be a playa but he had two favoritas that he rotated his time with in SD. He cooked meals for them and took them to movies and I thought he was weak for this. He would get in my ass about fucking Sosua skanks. He knew that his happiness was found in one or two good ones and not in the heard. He has a penthouse on the malecon that's awesome. He has schooled me on my mistakes and I wouldn't listen before. Now that I've grown I'm seeing what he was showing me even though I wasn't listening then.
Happy New Year fellas.
Remember Elliott Spitzer paid 4 figures for p4 p per pop. Money is a personal thing. What we pay is what we think the service is worth. I am not a wealthy guy so I manage my affairs so I get the best bang for my buck. Quality of service is very important to me. I take the time create the best enviroment We all now Brazil is great but it costs times what the DR is. I can not swing it on my budget. So I maximize my efforts in the DR and get the best it has to offer which for me aint bad.
I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.
I cannot comment because we have two entirely different dynamics. When I read his post (about trying to lock down good pussy at his age because it may be drying up due to him getting older) it's something that I cannot relate to because I am not yet at that age / stage in my life. But who knows? Mr G has more insights to give us and I am looking forward to it. However, you can't lock down no pussy in a foreign country. ReRead Chris report. If you are a good customer the chica will clear her calendar for your return. Sending money to a requesting chica is no insurance on any but a request for more money soon after. Mr G told us of his pass ex chicas violating his generosity. He no longer goes this route but he has been there and has matured. The WU Novia route did not work for him. He is in recovery. It does works for some so I am told. I will admit I am on the out side looking in.
WorldTraveler3
12-31-14, 19:10
Mr G has more insights to give us and I am looking forward to it. However, you can't lock down no pussy in a foreign country. ReRead Chris report. If you are a good customer the chica will clear her calendar for your return. Sending money to a requesting chica is no insurance on any but a request for more money soon after. Mr G told us of his pass ex chicas violating his generosity. He no longer goes this route but he has been there and has matured. The WU Novia route did not work for him. He is in recovery. It does works for some so I am told. I will admit I am on the out side looking in.I was thinking would be the board over all opinion on such thing and the effect it has on the relationship / transaction.
I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.Surfer I (Mr cheap dress buyer) will be the last person to say you shouldn't send give gifts or money to you girlfriends. When a chica lets her performance do the talking I usually reward more. I. though cheap have no problem rewarding and I love surprising a special chica that has my respect. I don't think every monger should be like me. I am still young in the game. I remember one monger saying his chicas threw a surprise birthday party for him. I can definitely see me surprising her on her birthday to go pick up a couple of dollars from Western Union. Wait a minute can you send a couple of dollars. Well anyway. I was referring to these putas requests for money. I have heard it one too many times you get weak and grant their requests. Then they press harder until you give up and either stop talking to them or grant their request again and again. Once again I am on the outside looking in. Newbies I cannot tell you the benefits of sending money at a chicas request. I cannot tell you the benefits of smoking crack only what I've seen and read about. It's not a good ending.
K Constant
12-31-14, 19:45
I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.Although we are all on team monger, each man here has a specific philosophy and strategy that he is employing. I do not send remittances to chicas, but I have met normal upstanding guys who do. Who am I to tell them that they are wrong? I believe in "no string attached" with these girls, but I know many guys who maintain an overseas girlfriend. How can I tell them that it is a bad idea?
On the other hand, I definitely believe that it pays not to be too cheap. It's possible to be too generous, and it's also possible to be too cheap. I blow a lot of money each year on this hobby, and it's a luxury good for me. I do it for the total package of the experience, the camaraderie, the exotic locations, the extreme liberty, etc. At the end of the day, an extra few dollars isn't that important. If I want to save money, then I should stay home.
Parkinsons
12-31-14, 22:04
It's not the big butts that I like it's the phat firm asses with slender waist. Athletically built or TrackStar bodies. Hey Chris draw a mustache and or beard on you chicas and watch surfer go crazy.I like me some volleyball asses:
Jtdbusiness
01-01-15, 02:07
I've never been to Sosua, and just drove through Boca Chica. I'm in the USA and have tomorrow (Thursday) through Sunday available. Should I take a first trip to Sosua or go to Boca Chica / Santo Domingo. I've been online today and have a half dozen specific women interested in meeting me in BC / SD, but no established contacts in POP / Sosua. Which location should I go to? I'm traveling solo.
I want to keep it simple, but. What comes to my mind?
1) People usually appreciate things they earn or work for. And take for granted things they get with no effort.
2) If anything you give has any hint of expecting something in return, then be prepared to be disappointed if your gesture fails to gratify your ego or the recipient is not as GENUINELY appreciative as you had hoped. Or your gesture does not buy you the consideration you had hoped.
Application: If one sends a girl some money, but is doing so for the following reasons: Dude feels his days of enjoying good sex with a hot babe are numbered, rationalizes that it's not a lot of money, is using the money to maintain good relations or lines of communications, these are all emotion based reasons. Responses. Where oh where did the principle of mongering go? Sticking to principle is one of the pillars of monger code, am I right?. Similarly to how pimps succeed in their trade, by sticking to the goal of making money and not falling for the con games, tricks would pull on their pimps. Any sign of weakness contributes to a loss of control, and eventually loss of respect and revenue. The impression you make and your motivation for giving has some impact on how you are perceived.
3) Are the women we want to let our guards down with, are they having sex with other men when we retreat back to our regular lives? Or are their pussies in a holding pattern waiting only for us to get back there to take care of their needs? As one ponders this, what's more important here, satisfying ones emotions or sticking to the principle?
4) What ever happened to paying only when services are rendered? What is sending money WU going to buy you? That you can't get if you didn't send it. Again, just ponder this for a minute.
5) If you didn't send this money, will we find her dead carcass somewhere because you didn't send money? Since when did you become responsible for someones problems when you were never required to or expected to before? Doesn't a yellow or red flag give cause for concern for how you might be perceived as a Mark? Being perceived as someone who can afford to give away money. Personally, I don't want nobody coming to me for money mainly because they think I don't really need it or because I have an abundance of it. And especially since they arent exhausting other options 1st, or willing to do without. Thats principle rearing it's ugly head again.
6) Will honoring an initial request potentially set a dude up for future requests? Mongering experience has the answer to that question?
7) How many other men are being asked to give the same amount of money? Point being, if other men are being asked along with you, one might want to know where their contribution ranks amongst the other guys turn?
8) It's easier for many to succumb to satisfying their egos / emotions, than denying that and doing the work it takes in sticking to a worthwhile principle where the rewards seem non existent. But far more gratifying in the long run. The esotoric few, know this and practice this.
9) If a dude insists on sending money, he is under no obligation to pay twice when he comes to town. But be mindful, paying in advance almost always has one coming up short in terns of returns on ones investment. Like a contractor given 90% for an uncompleted job. It's human nature to lose interest in prioritizing someone when the job was paid but not completed.
10) One of the better assurances of getting what you pay for on a personal level, is to tap into what one is motivated by. But it is better to reward when there is commensurate reciprocation, in the moment. Women are like cats, kids, or relatives who borrow money. They don't always associate behavior in one moment with behavior in another moment. They respond more to what happens in the moment, and forget anything that happens other occasions. You could easily kill a womans motivation for giving you future comfort by paying for her approval of you. Thats exactly what that money may represent to the woman, paid approval. Not a good place for a man to be in, monger or not.
I want to keep it simple, but. What comes to my mind?
10) . Women are like cats, kids, or relatives who borrow money. They don't always associate behavior in one moment with behavior in another moment. They respond more to what happens in the moment, and forget anything that happens other occasions. You could easily kill a womans motivation for giving you future comfort by paying for her approval of you. Thats exactly what that money may represent to the woman, paid approval. Not a good place for a man to be in, monger or not.11) WRX2004 AKA Sigmund Freud.
Although we are all on team monger, each man here has a specific philosophy and strategy that he is employing. I do not send remittances to chicas, but I have met normal upstanding guys who do. Who am I to tell them that they are wrong? I believe in "no string attached" with these girls, but I know many guys who maintain an overseas girlfriend. How can I tell them that it is a bad idea?
On the other hand, I definitely believe that it pays not to be too cheap. It's possible to be too generous, and it's also possible to be too cheap. I blow a lot of money each year on this hobby, and it's a luxury good for me. I do it for the total package of the experience, the camaraderie, the exotic locations, the extreme liberty, etc. At the end of the day, an extra few dollars isn't that important. If I want to save money, then I should stay home.What have I started here? Its all good because its a thought inspiring conversation. Everyone's opinion counts because someone is going to get something out of it. Your last two sentences sums up my feelings perfectly.
ForceSteeler
01-01-15, 05:48
I never understand why dudes send girls Western Union. I'm a Gringo but I was never a stupid Gringo. One thing I know about girls is that if they really love you don't need to send her any money. Or like the Old Timers, if you want too keep Fake People around you always, Act Broke!
People generally would be impressed or appreciative of someone who helped them, moreso when that person sacrificed to do so. One who shares their last. But how appreciative would a recipient be towards someone who appears rich compared to themselves? In other words, if one with significantly less than you asks you for money, do they regard your compliance as someone who sacrificed to do so? Or would your compliance be looked at as you got it like that, and therefore aint losing anything. Resulting in the recipient not really appreciating the offering? And your offering considered insignificant. Oh they may perform to make the right impression, and many are quick to be impressed by acting and doing subtle things, but do they really appreciate the unearned reward that was bestowed upon them?
It seems we as mongers are more impressed by simple stuff done for us from those who have less, than those having less being impressed by what we do for them. Something to think about. Want to be appreciated? Want your gifts to matter? Don't give more (especially unearned), give wisely.
Your compliance be looked at as you got it like that, and therefore aint losing anything. Resulting in the recipient not really appreciating the offering? And your offering considered insignificant. Oh they may perform to make the right impression, and many are quick to be impressed by acting and doing subtle things, but do they really appreciate the unearned reward that was bestowed upon them?
It seems we as mongers are more impressed by simple stuff done for us from those who have less, than those having less being impressed by what we do for them. Something to think about. Want to be appreciated? Want your gifts to matter? Don't give more (especially unearned), give wisely.1) I think this is the mentality of the most of the people that deal with tourist in the DR.
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We will have many years together in this game brother and I can see in the near future you emailing me telling you found"The one" I had a girlfriend that asked me if she can give me everything I need in a woman will I have the need to cheat on her. I responded hell no I don't have to go and find another Chick you will be searching and bringing the new bitches home. She did say give me everything I need in a woman.
I speak to BQ regularly and our relationship in the past has kind of been the same as me and Grownman now. I always told him to be a playa but he had two favoritas that he rotated his time with in SD. He cooked meals for them and took them to movies and I thought he was weak for this. He would get in my ass about fucking Sosua skanks. He knew that his happiness was found in one or two good ones and not in the heard. He has a penthouse on the malecon that's awesome. He has schooled me on my mistakes and I wouldn't listen before. Now that I've grown I'm seeing what he was showing me even though I wasn't listening then.
Happy New Year fellas.So that is that light at the end of the tunnel; I will be 10 years older than Charles P by the time I get there.
People generally would be impressed or appreciative of someone who helped them, moreso when that person sacrificed to do so. One who shares their last. But how appreciative would a recipient be towards someone who appears rich compared to themselves? In other words, if one with significantly less than you asks you for money, do they regard your compliance as someone who sacrificed to do so? Or would your compliance be looked at as you got it like that, and therefore aint losing anything. Resulting in the recipient not really appreciating the offering? And your offering considered insignificant. Oh they may perform to make the right impression, and many are quick to be impressed by acting and doing subtle things, but do they really appreciate the unearned reward that was bestowed upon them?
It seems we as mongers are more impressed by simple stuff done for us from those who have less, than those having less being impressed by what we do for them. Something to think about. Want to be appreciated? Want your gifts to matter? Don't give more (especially unearned), give wisely.I'm willing to step into this debate. I respect your ability to size up different situations from different angles and come to a logical conclusion but my approach is more basic. I never think about if the girl thinks about my generosity being appreciated because I give freely. I can always no. If she comes when I call her and acts as if she wants to be there and shows me the time of my life, why would I care if she appreciates my hard earned money that I gave freely? Its basic to me, do what I want, how I want, and I will be generous, its not complicated why make it so? Its seems some of us put ourselves on a pedestal and wave the money around asking for things because they are poor. I know you are going to eat that up as being contradictory, but let me explain. I don't look at it as if I'm doing them a favor because they are poor. I look at it as I'm paying them to fulfill my fantasy, nothing more. The benefit about travel for this fantasy is that I'm able to disconnect and go back to my regular life at any time. In America its not that easy to disconnect and live in America without repercussions. Maybe she makes problems in your household or on your job etc. With that said, eventually you will come across one that might be worth more of an investment. Her feelings about how hard I work for my money don't matter to me because its peanuts to me because she is making me happy. Isn't that all that matters? WRX you are right about some things, for instance her tells should be analyzed. Does she spend to much time on the phone? Does she appear uncomfortable with you? Does she rush during sex? Does she make everything, about my happiness at that moment? But does she appreciate how hard I worked for this money is none of her business.
If I'm a trust fund baby or a sanitation worker doesn't play into this as long as she fulfills my fantasy. We tend to want to size up the girl beyond the basics. Its as if we are looking for something to use to our advantage to keep this poor girl in check. For me its not about that because that takes it away from why I travel for this fantasy.
I had a girlfriend that asked me if she can give me everything I need in a woman will I have the need to cheat on her. I responded hell no I don't have to go and find another Chick you will be searching and bringing the new bitches home. She did say give me everything I need in a woman.Your not leaning yet grasshopper! New pussy will play out when you discover real pussy. Right now you are just going through the motions trying to get a high count but quality will win out over quantity eventually. In boxing terms; you are just in the preliminary rounds the championship rounds will come. Its levels to this shit!
El MonoCalvo
01-01-15, 15:56
I've never been to Sosua, and just drove through Boca Chica. I'm in the USA and have tomorrow (Thursday) through Sunday available. Should I take a first trip to Sosua or go to Boca Chica / Santo Domingo. I've been online today and have a half dozen specific women interested in meeting me in BC / SD, but no established contacts in POP / Sosua. Which location should I go to? I'm traveling solo.I enjoyed the tourist sites in the Capitol and experiencing what BC offered, but Sosua definitely has more women and was much more fun.
SavePros321
01-01-15, 16:12
I've never been to Sosua, and just drove through Boca Chica. I'm in the USA and have tomorrow (Thursday) through Sunday available. Should I take a first trip to Sosua or go to Boca Chica / Santo Domingo. I've been online today and have a half dozen specific women interested in meeting me in BC / SD, but no established contacts in POP / Sosua. Which location should I go to? I'm traveling solo.Sosua, hands down. One you are on the ground there and surrounded by all those chicas you will forget about those online contacts, LOL. Trust me. I've tried it many times, but pussy "here and now" always beats "maybe pussy", AKA "A bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush".
That is definitely not the sentiment if you read the last page and a half in the forum. Mostly everyone is saying the exact opposite. You even have guys suggesting to others that they need to go as far as Brazil and Argentina for better service (either destination doesn't sound like a bad idea either).
In my observation it seems that the further you get away from the USA/USA Tourists en mass, the better attitude the women will have.
Sosua: Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor/rushed service.
San Jose (Costa Rica): Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor/rushed service.
The places that are too far to have a large USA Tourists presence don't have as many complaints as the two places listed above. Sure, there will be a handful of p4 p women who will turn out to be duds, but I haven't seen it as prevalent as the DR or CR.
Totally on the money. It may very well be not the DR women themselves but their corruption by American men that is causing their bad performance. Tens of thousands of American men visit the DR on a regular basis due to its close proximity. I am not too enamoured of the service I get in Tijuana as well. I would imagine that a Dominicana who has not yet encountered an American should be good GFE. I have not yet been to Cuba but I have to get there before the influx.
SavePros321
01-01-15, 16:17
Or like the Old Timers, If you want too keep Fake People around you always.
Act Broke!You fucked up the saying, LOL. It's "if you want to keep fake people from being around you, act broke. ".
About the Brazilian women fucking your brains out that all depends on the woman. I was married to a Brazilian woman. She had an amazing body and a superb bubble ass, but she was the most frustrating to have because she was stuck up as hell and selfish and fuck only when she wanted to. I was frustrated sexually most of the time. After I divorce the witch I became a monger.I've never had a relationship with a Brazilian woman. My first encounter with a Brazilian provider was in NYC in the early 70's. She gave me the best sex I had in my life up to that time. I had wondered then if all Brazilian women were like that. Years later I visited Rio and discovered that what I had experienced was the norm for Brazilian providers. Of all the countries in which I have hobbied I have had the best experiences in Brazil. What I like about female cariocas is that they truly enjoy what they do unlike many providers from the DR, Mexico, Costa Rica etc. Marriage seems to bring out the worst in some women. My neighbor broke up with his American GF some years ago and took up with a Dominican immigrant with whom he now lives and they seem to be quite happy together, I recently noticed that she is pregnant. Relationships is a more interpersonal thing and is different from mongering.
You fucked up the saying, LOL. It's "if you want to keep fake people from being around you, act broke. ".If you want to keep ALL people from being around you act broke.
I commented on his post and my advice was contrary to yours. Yes, we all pay, and some have more money than others. Sometimes a lot of guys on this board disdain the WU guys on this board, but you have to keep things in perspective. I at times send "chump change" to two of my regulars in the DR like at Christmas. I was never asked by them to send them money, it was something I did without asking. This is far different than the guy who gets roped into sending money every month to a Chica. You said"a wise monger pays less and gets more with less headaches". I say a wise monger pays a little more and get's a lot with no headaches.I think I understand where you are coming from. And I relate to that. In my previous post, I talked about one sending money without expectations. Giving a chica friend a Christmas gift without having expectations that that money is buying you some future reward, now that makes sense. In this instance, you may not be concerned about whether they appreciate it or not. But you may figure the gesture will be received in a positive light. Likely no harm, no foul.
In my previous post, I was talking about how a guy can get caught up thinking he is going to lose some chicas interest or attention if he doesn't comply with a request. Especially a request of him when he isn't there with the woman. The emphasis isn't on whether or not the female appreciates the man complying. The emphasis is on the mans motivation for complying. Is it out of concern of losing the womans interest / superior sexual performance? If so, that's not a good position for a man to be in. I will try to elaborate later, when I attempt to address Mr G's post.
Your not leaning yet grasshopper! New pussy will play out when you discover real pussy. Right now you are just going through the motions trying to get a high count but quality will win out over quantity eventually. In boxing terms; you are just in the preliminary rounds the championship rounds will come. Its levels to this shit!LOL so says the man who refuse to get married. My brother I am past the quantity itself game but I still love nu nu. That's why I can only give Sosua a couple of days. I have yet to have a happy hour even though I've been proposition many of times. I don't think there's any quality in that route. I don't like mixing Chardonnay with Merlot just to say I drunk a lot of wine. There are a lot of young women here in my small town waiting for me to slip and settle. However they don't understand the quality I get in the DR minus the bullshit. Last night I put one in the air, read some trip reports, and went to sleep as the new year came in- fuck going out. I will wait until I'm in my quality zone where women are extremely young. My pockets can compensate the age difference and my understanding of this sport can avoid headaches. Guys like you, Ghostface, Olkool, Charles, BQK, DeepImpact, TomJ, Savepro, Sigmund Freud, BoricuaOnline, Camero, and Fannie (yes you too Willona. Good times get it. Of course not) have fast tracked me and a lot us in cycles 1 & 2. If you plan on being with a good chica I can respect the need for a slight investment for future hope. They do it in the church all the time, Fresh is happy. However when it comes to a chicas RFM, if your philosophical value does not have practical purposes aligned with her you lose big. Not just the chump change but the principles of the practical value along with your heart.
If you want to keep ALL people from being around you act broke.AAin't that the damn truth. in Boca Chica I asked the bums for money before they asked me. I always remind them I gave last time now it's your turn. If you can't return the favor don't talk to me no more you are useless. They avoid you like to plague when you remind them they owe you something.
If you want to keep ALL people from being around you act broke.LOL no kidding! When I go to work dressed for success the panhandlers always want to hit me up for money. But if I have on some sweat pants and a hoodie they leave me alone LOL!
I'm willing to step into this debate. I respect your ability to size up different situations from different angles and come to a logical conclusion but my approach is more basic. I never think about if the girl thinks about my generosity being appreciated because I give freely. I can always no. If she comes when I call her and acts as if she wants to be there and shows me the time of my life, why would I care if she appreciates my hard earned money that I gave freely? Its basic to me, do what I want, how I want, and I will be generous, its not complicated why make it so? Its seems some of us put ourselves on a pedestal and wave the money around asking for things because they are poor. I know you are going to eat that up as being contradictory, but let me explain. I don't look at it as if I'm doing them a favor because they are poor. I look at it as I'm paying them to fulfill my fantasy, nothing more. The benefit about travel for this fantasy is that I'm able to disconnect and go back to my regular life at any time. In America its not that easy to disconnect and live in America without repercussions. Maybe she makes problems in your household or on your job etc. With that said, eventually you will come across one that might be worth more of an investment. Her feelings about how hard I work for my money don't matter to me because its peanuts to me because she is making me happy. Isn't that all that matters? WRX you are right about some things, for instance her tells should be analyzed. Does she spend to much time on the phone? Does she appear uncomfortable with you? Does she rush during sex? Does she make everything, about my happiness at that moment? But does she appreciate how hard I worked for this money is none of her business.
If I'm a trust fund baby or a sanitation worker doesn't play into this as long as she fulfills my fantasy. We tend to want to size up the girl beyond the basics. Its as if we are looking for something to use to our advantage to keep this poor girl in check. For me its not about that because that takes it away from why I travel for this fantasy.I apologize for the fact that you probably submitted a comprehensive trip report in the Cuba section, and the answers to my inquiries are probably there. But I'm curious. Aside from you paying for dinner and liquor for everybody, did you give Anna any money or compensation for all of that time she spent with you? I mean before you left Cuba to go home? If not, I can see how she might feel she has to make up for not getting compensated for her time.
Had you worked out any arrangement or discussed anything about compensating her? Probably not! Throughout your time with Anna, even if she never point blank asked you for money, did she ever discuss with you areas where she needs things or money? Not asking directly, but telling you some of her life problems and needs? Moreover, You haven't been with this women for months or years. How likely would it be that eventually you were going to learn as much as she wanted you to know about her shortcomings in life, and where one could help if they wanted to?
What is interesting to me, is that even though she didn't ask for anything while you were together, she didn't waste any time getting around to being direct after you left. A question arises from that; is her not asking for anything when you were together as impressive to you now, since she finally came out and asked directly? For me, I would regard my 1st impression as just me not knowing the girl was playing the waiting game. Not that she really didn't want anything from me. She did want something from me all along. She was just fulfilling my fantasy and not destroying the vibe. Maybe she was hoping for compensation before you left without having to ask. Many young women expect that from dudes older than them.
Are we taking an analytical approach of dealing with Cuba chica as if they are Dr chica. In fac aren't these two chica oranges and apples. The Cuban chica prostitution is not legal. The society is communist. There are many restrictions on their citizens. They really don't deal with American foreigners. Education is free and endorse by the government. They are poor and proud people. They have very little Western influence for years. their country alone is considered the Virgin of the Caribbean. A large percentage of the population is employed by the government. The Cuban people embraces all aspects of their heritage as a sense of pride.
The Dr chica prostitution is legal and big business for a lot of unemployed girls. They have a lot more liberal society. Education falls short for the average citizen. They are majorly influenced by our Western ways. Many are poor and proud but not too proud to beg. In Sosua a lot of girls learn English from the streets. The chicas learn to be hustlers at a young age as a means to provide. A large percentage of the population is unemployed. There is a systematic program already in place for them to cater, hustle, and/or manipulate tourist. The Dominican chica do not embrace their African or Native Dominican heritage only their Spanish. They have no pride in their reflection.
Mr G you may say its pussy but I think it's more that you found a young lady that was educated, culturally aware, sexy, freaky, a squirter clean, and enjoyed pleasing you. It was not all business it was more like - let me show you what I like when you're f****** me daddy. Who the hell wouldn't want to keep a hold of her. Gas6459 is this the reason why you called it a no-brainer and was so quick to take her off Mr G hands. You normally stay quiet in the woods however you jumped out head first on this
Mr G you have had the honors of going to Cuba a place monger rarely go to. One day soon we will have an opportunity to see things through our eyes.
I apologize for the fact that you probably submitted a comprehensive trip report in the Cuba section, and the answers to my inquiries are probably there. But I'm curious. Aside from you paying for dinner and liquor for everybody, did you give Anna any money or compensation for all of that time she spent with you? I mean before you left Cuba to go home? If not, I can see how she might feel she has to make up for not getting compensated for her time.
Had you worked out any arrangement or discussed anything about compensating her? Probably not! Throughout your time with Anna, even if she never point blank asked you for money, did she ever discuss with you areas where she needs things or money? Not asking directly, but telling you some of her life problems and needs? Moreover, You haven't been with this women for months or years. How likely would it be that eventually you were going to learn as much as she wanted you to know about her shortcomings in life, and where one could help if they wanted to?
What is interesting to me, is that even though she didn't ask for anything while you were together, she didn't waste any time getting around to being direct after you left. A question arises from that; is her not asking for anything when you were together as impressive to you now, since she finally came out and asked directly? For me, I would regard my 1st impression as just me not knowing the girl was playing the waiting game. Not that she really didn't want anything from me. She did want something from me all along. She was just fulfilling my fantasy and not destroying the vibe. Maybe she was hoping for compensation before you left without having to ask. Many young women expect that from dudes older than them.My first time with Anna she never asked for anything and I never offered, I ditched her for the rest of that trip. The second time she never asked but I slid 30 cuc (about 35 usd) into her purse before she left. What I think happened is that some family members got to her after she probably bragged about her new boyfriend and the family applied the pressure. Interesting though is that she didn't resort to Dominican tactics when I turned her request down. I've had Dominicanas say"I will have to fuck another guy if you don't help me", and "My family says your no good if you don't help me", these tactics kill any vibe we might have had and is my reason to split.
These Cuban women don't beg and use the sob stories like the DR girls do. Understand its a military state where they are told what to do and how to act. A tout can get a year and a day for talking to a tourist. They are strong people who are accustomed to doing without and overcoming all odds against them I have never met more determined people. I took a girl in Cuba an old digital camera that didn't work. She would email me every week saying it was almost fixed and that she was still figuring it out. She said Cubans find a way. Ill be damned if she didn't fix that old as broke phone. Education is free and there are no jobs, so instead of fixing shit some stay in school. The only relationship they have had with foreigners are the Russian and euro guys from the past, they haven't gotten used to hustling Americans on the regular. Damn a report just popped up by GM saying everything I wrote. But WRX you need to go to Cuba soon.
All that is about to change now.
Mr G's key points, I will respond to:
I don't look at it as if I'm doing them a favor because they are poor. I look at it as I'm paying them to fulfill my fantasy, nothing more. The benefit about travel for this fantasy is that I'm able to disconnect and go back to my regular life at any time. In America its not that easy to disconnect and live in America without repercussions. Maybe she makes problems in your household or on your job etc. With that said, eventually you will come across one that might be worth more of an investment. Her feelings about how hard I work for my money don't matter to me because its peanuts to me because she is making me happy. Isn't that all that matters?
We tend to want to size up the girl beyond the basics. Its as if we are looking for something to use to our advantage to keep this poor girl in check. For me its not about that because that takes it away from why I travel for this fantasy.
As we get older we don't really care about principal as much as we care about finding our happiness. Principal can be based on how you want other people to perceive you. Your friend Fresh is kicking out about 13 k a year to find his happiness, and I respect that, but 120 a few times a year for great sex is respectable for me. This coming from a chica who never asks for money when I'm there.
The four of us went for dinner (I paid) and then for a walk among the historical sites in Havana. At dinner the niece (lets call her Anna) didn't even know how to cut her meat with a knife, I had to help her. See she was from a little country town outside of Havana. We stopped and got some liquor (I paid) and went to the casa. We partied till 2 am and had a great time.
Anna called me before Thanksgiving asking for 120 dollars and I stopped taking her calls refusing her request. I haven't talked to her until last week when I got soft and called to wish her Merry Christmas. She was so excited she screamed and then cried. I was thinking that I almost lost the best sex partner I've ever had over 120 lousy dollars. Parkinsons report made me evaluate the situation. I'm approaching middle age and good sex might not be available as I'm getting older, do I stick with the hour fucks with a condom in Sosua or do I make an investment in this good pussy? I'm headed back to Cuba soon and realize I have to spend money to maintain my contacts and good pussy, but will I do it?All of those parts that you wrote gave me cause to reflect on. I was thinking about how you said you are paying for a fantasy, not doing them a favor because they are poor. Now when Anna asked for the $120 and you refused, it appears that sending money was not part of your fantasy. But somehow you made a connection that not sending her the money could potentially mean you losing the best sex partner you ever had, over not sending $120. What did you mean by that?
Now if you meant losing her because you stopped taking her calls, that's one thing. But if you mean you think you would have lost her because you didn't comply with a request for $120, that's a totally different perspective. IMHO, that goes totally against monger logic. Because there is nothing wrong with paying for services or fantasies when they are rendered. Paying forward for services unearned does not guarantee future consideration or performance. After all the performance you got came without giving her $120, correct? If Anna was to stop dealing with you just because you didn't send money, that should be a red flag about what she is really about.
It seems like you are applying both perspectives. You stopped taking her calls, and you refused her request. My concern here is, you are approaching a milestone, but since when does fulfilling ones happiness outshine the principle of an issue, for any man? I always thought as we get older, we are supposed to apply principles more due to increased wisdom and discipline. Perhaps by the time one becomes handicapped and totally dependent on others, then we find ourselves being more selfish and less principled. You are far from that category.
Going back to my original focus: How is she or was she making you happy or fulfilling your fantasy once you returned to your home base? As you said, once you are home you've disconnected. She is in Cuba and you are in the US. You are not living a fantasy with her anymore. If you gave her no money (after all you enjoyed with her) before you left for the states, then you sending her money makes sense. It allows you to compensate her for her time. The man / woman transaction is complete. And it affords you some consideration once you return. But if you gave no compensation when you were together, and refused to send money, she could write you off as a freeloading dude who thinks buying dinners and liquor will get him some free juice. Or at the very least put you on the low priority list when you return. However if she has no other options, and you bring life to her emptiness, then you don't really need to send $120. What she benefits with you being there is probably enough. BTW, your fantasy was fulfilled through her while you were together, and you didn't give her money, correct? Why should that be any different when you return? Is it because you dont think of her as any different than most women who expect to be compensated by a man for their time? No finance?, no romance?
Last point. I'm sure you read me write one of my sayings before. We can only think in one head. Applying it here. What we think in our heads, does not mean the woman is responding or reciprocating accordingly. In other words, a man paying a woman $120 when he isn't with her for maintaining his fantasy, does not mean she is receiving the money and applying it the way he sees it in his head. She may have a totally different idea in her head of what the money means to her, than what it means to you, in your head.
Potentially resulting in you not necessarily getting what you think you are paying for when you return, or in the long run. Somewhere down the road, there may be diminishing returns on that investment. It's just a matter of time to see it unfold. All in all, you know the situation and the woman better than anybody here, and are in a much better position to evaluate what's working from what isn't.
Other than that, we all have the right to enjoy our fantasies and deal with our own fallacies in judgement of others, and at the same time deal with any backlash or consequences. When we are done, we can wake up and get back on track when we feel like it. So enjoy it for what it is worth to you, and for as long as it lasts!
SavePros321
01-01-15, 18:09
Aside from you paying for dinner and liquor for everybody, did you give Anna any money or compensation for all of that time she spent with you? I mean before you left Cuba to go home? If not, I can see how she might feel she has to make up for not getting compensated for her time.
Had you worked out any arrangement or discussed anything about compensating her? Probably not! Throughout your time with Anna, even if she never point blank asked you for money, did she ever discuss with you areas where she needs things or money? Not asking directly, but telling you some of her life problems and needs? Moreover, You haven't been with this women for months or years. How likely would it be that eventually you were going to learn as much as she wanted you to know about her shortcomings in life, and where one could help if they wanted to?
What is interesting to me, is that even though she didn't ask for anything while you were together, she didn't waste any time getting around to being direct after you left. A question arises from that; is her not asking for anything when you were together as impressive to you now, since she finally came out and asked directly? For me, I would regard my 1st impression as just me not knowing the girl was playing the waiting game. Not that she really didn't want anything from me. She did want something from me all along. She was just fulfilling my fantasy and not destroying the vibe. Maybe she was hoping for compensation before you left without having to ask. Many young women expect that from dudes older than them.I'm stealing this and posting it in the Opinions American Women forum! You have just supported ForceSteeler's position (I think he was the one that said it) that all women are just undercover pros. Also supports my theory in that relationships and marriage is a waste of time.
However, Mr. Gogo was not dealing with a prostitute in Cuba, but your post about him "compensating her for her time" makes her sound just like one, hahaha. This also backs up Mr. E's argument about turning "non-pros" into pros. If you have a quote unquote "non-pro", yet still give her money because you figure she expects to be compensated for the time she spent with you, haven't you just turned your non-pro into a full-fledged pro?
Naked Gunz
01-01-15, 18:27
In my observation it seems that the further you get away from the USA/USA Tourists en mass, the better attitude the women will have.
Sosua: Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor/rushed service.San Jose (Costa Rica): Lots of American tourists in one location. Chicas with shitty attitudes and poor/rushed service.The places that are too far to have a large USA Tourists presence don't have as many complaints as the two places listed above. Sure, there will be a handful of p4 p women who will turn out to be duds, but I haven't seen it as prevalent as the DR or CR.Having worked in Thailand, Phils and primarily "over there" on the other side of the world, I can DEFINITELY say you will get GFE OVER THERE. I felt safer in recently bombed Nairobi, Kenya than in Sousua. GFE from the most bootyful women you will ever meet, and there are millions in Nairobi. Pinays are the sweetest women in the world by nature. Just look at how they pose so willingly for pics while bare assed and being shagged in that forum. I got a very bad taste for Sousua. I bought one biatch a beer and she thought she owned me. I only monger in this hemisphere when I'm stuck in the states for an extended period.
Are we taking an analytical approach of dealing with Cuba chica as if they are Dr chica. In fac aren't these two chica oranges and apples. The Cuban chica prostitution is not legal. The society is communist. There are many restrictions on their citizens. They really don't deal with American foreigners. Education is free and endorse by the government. They are poor and proud people. They have very little Western influence for years. their country alone is considered the Virgin of the Caribbean. A large percentage of the population is employed by the government. The Cuban people embraces all aspects of their heritage as a sense of pride.
The Dr chica prostitution is legal and big business for a lot of unemployed girls. They have a lot more liberal society. Education falls short for the average citizen. They are majorly influenced by our Western ways. Many are poor and proud but not too proud to beg. In Sosua a lot of girls learn English from the streets. The chicas learn to be hustlers at a young age as a means to provide. A large percentage of the population is unemployed. There is a systematic program already in place for them to cater, hustle, and/or manipulate tourist. The Dominican chica do not embrace their African or Native Dominican heritage only their Spanish.
Mr G you may say its pussy but I think it's more that you found a young lady that was educated, culturally aware, sexy, freaky, a squirter clean, and enjoyed pleasing you. It was not all business it was more like - let me show you what I like when you're f****** me daddy. Who the hell wouldn't want to keep a hold of her. Gas6459 is this the reason why you called it a no-brainer and was so quick to take her off Mr G hands. You normally stay quiet in the woods however you jumped out head first on this
Mr G you have had the honors of going to Cuba a place we rarely go to. One day soon we will have an opportunity to see things through our eyes.Prostitution seems to be engrained in the psychy of many women even if prostitution is not legal where they come from. In civilized terms, in order not to offend women, we often refrain from calling it prostitution, we call it a woman desiring security from a man. But no matter what you call it, if a woman thinks or feels a man should compensate her for her time (sex or no sex) the basic premise of paying to play is being manifested on some level. Ever hear women talk about their expenses of beautifying themselves? They try to say they did all of that for our benefit. What you do to prepare for them, don't mean jack. What you sacrifice to be with them, don't mean jack to them.
For women that are poor or have significantly less than some foreigner visiting their country, it's a no brainer. He is GENERALLY expected to pay or compensate a woman for her time. There are exceptions of course. But the majority likely expect a man to take the lead when it comes to providing resources. We all know the easiest test with a woman. Don't give her any money or use your resources in her regard, and see how long she'll stick around. Women universally classify men as being cheap, when those men don't meet their expectation $.
SavePros321
01-01-15, 18:45
In my previous post, I was talking about how a guy can get caught up thinking he is going to lose some chicas interest or attention if he doesn't comply with a request. Especially a request of him when he isn't there with the woman. The emphasis isn't on whether or not the female appreciates the man complying. The emphasis is on the mans motivation for complying. Is it out of concern of losing the womans interest / superior sexual performance? If so, that's not a good position for a man to be in. I will try to elaborate later, when I attempt to address Mr G's post.Prior to my Thanksgiving trip to Medellin I had a regular that I bang a least once per trip (so like 8 times now) ask me for money via Whatsapp. I lied and told her that I didn't have the money because I was caring for a family member that had cancer.
I will admit that the thought of her not wanting to see me next trip because I did not send her any money did cross my mind, but two facts overruled my thinking:
1) There are way too many chicas that give good "Juice" (the term you like to use often) to be concerned with just one. Last trip I knocked down 20 chicas and still had about 5 I couldn't get around to because of time constraints.
2) I would feel like a sucker if I sent her the money (it was a nominal amount: $50 USD) and then when I got there she gave me excuses why she couldn't visit me or turned her phone off.
In the end I did not send her any money and still banged her back out when I got into town.
But these are examples of my dealings with Pros. Which is why I told GrownMan I could not speak on Mr. Gogo's post much because he was not dealing with a hooker. I have pros with some fine ass friends and family members on FB. Some of them are not in the game. I asked my one amigas if she would introduce me to her cousin and she told me: "Amor, ella es una chica muy seria. Tiene un novio y ella no sale con nadie." Translated, her cousin is not a pro, has a boyfriend, and would not be interested in p4p. But man her cousin is hella fyne! If I were tapping that ass as her boyfriend and she asked me to send her $120, that request might be hard to turn down my friend, hahaha.
Camaro1257
01-01-15, 18:51
I am loving this conversation and the different points of view. The topic of money and how we spend it is a very subjective issue. Recently I was in Santiago with a chica without a job who was reportedly a student, in my experience that is often an open door for a semi pro. At no time did we discuss money and there were only subtle hints about sex. We did a TLN on our second date and when we woke up in the morning I was still not sure about how to handle the money so I put 2 k in my pocket before I walked her outside to get a cab. I paid the taxi and nothing was said about money. We have whatsapped a few times and money has not come up.
Generally under the aforementioned circumstances a "regalo de dinero" would be expected but we have to be careful not to turn civilian, non pros into semi-pros. One of the disadvantages to being a monger is often equating sex to money more often than not it is but it felt good to experience the difference. Going forward I am going to be very sensitive as to whether money is appropriate and how much.
I'm stealing this and posting it in the Opinions American Women forum! You have just supported ForceSteeler's position (I think he was the one that said it) that all women are just undercover pros. Also supports my theory in that relationships and marriage is a waste of time.
However, Mr. Gogo was not dealing with a prostitute in Cuba, but your post about him "compensating her for her time" makes her sound just like one, hahaha. This also backs up Mr. E's argument about turning "non-pros" into pros. If you have a quote unquote "non-pro", yet still give her money because you figure she expects to be compensated for the time she spent with you, haven't you just turned your non-pro into a full-fledged pro?My post may have given that impression. But Mr G's own words add up to making it sound that way. When he said he was paying her for his fantasy, not because he thinks she may be poor. That right there tells what he feels he can do to faciliate getting what he is looking for.
So you see, even Mr G seems to allude to the woman being compensated in order to fulfill his fantasy. We don't have to call it anything. It is what it is? One person wants something from another, and is willing to pay (compensate) someone who is providing it. If it isn't about compensation, p4 p, or prostitution, why would any man need to do anything more than simply return there and do exactly what he did the 1st time? Which is simply enjoy the woman. Why would any man feel he might miss out on the best sex partner he ever had, over not sending money? So SP, I'm merely an inquirer because there are many parts of that situation I don't know. I'm not really trying to make full judgment on so little information. But what was provided does give reason to wonder.
I am not sure what you guys are doing, I feel safer in Sosua then in most US cities. There are a couple hundred girls willing to have sex for less then $40. How you guys manage to find the few that are scam artist blows my mind. A blind squirrel can find a nut in Sosua. Filing to Africa is 5 times the price of going to the DR. I know you are not getting the concentration of women in one place.
Having worked in Thailand, Phils and primarily "over there" on the other side of the world, I can DEFINITELY say you will get GFE OVER THERE. I felt safer in recently bombed Nairobi, Kenya than in Sousua. GFE from the most bootyful women you will ever meet, and there are millions in Nairobi. Pinays are the sweetest women in the world by nature. Just look at how they pose so willingly for pics while bare assed and being shagged in that forum. I got a very bad taste for Sousua. I bought one biatch a beer and she thought she owned me. I only monger in this hemisphere when I'm stuck in the states for an extended period.
LOL so says the man who refuse to get married. My brother I am past the quantity itself game but I still love nu nu. That's why I can only give Sosua a couple of days. I have yet to have a happy hour even though I've been proposition many of times. I don't think there's any quality in that route. I don't like mixing Chardonnay with Merlot just to say I drunk a lot of wine. There are a lot of young women here in my small town waiting for me to slip and settle. However they don't understand the quality I get in the DR minus the bullshit. Last night I put one in the air, read some trip reports, and went to sleep as the new year came in- fuck going out. I will wait until I'm in my quality zone where women are extremely young. My pockets can compensate the age difference and my understanding of this sport can avoid headaches. Guys like you, Ghostface, Olkool, Charles, BQK, DeepImpact, TomJ, Savepro, Sigmund Freud, BoricuaOnline, Camero, and Fannie (yes you too Willona. Good times get it. Of course not) have fast tracked me and a lot us in cycles 1 & 2. If you plan on being with a good chica I can respect the need for a slight investment for future hope. They do it in the church all the time, Fresh is happy. However when it comes to a chicas RFM, if your philosophical value does not have practical purposes aligned with her you lose big. Not just the chump change but the principles of the practical value along with your heart.I'm lost here with all your jargon, fast tracking in cycles 1 & 2 ?
If I were tapping that ass as her boyfriend and she asked me to send her $120, that request might be hard to turn down my friend, hahaha.Me too Pro Pimpin. It's the snowball effect after granting the first request I am scared of. I had a cousin that was going through financial difficulties about 3 months ago. She needed $500 and came to me. I granted her request because I know for sure she was getting at least 6000 in December. We agreed she will give me my money when she received her check. She has hit cash 3 at least three times before the month of December however, she didn't give me one dime toward the money she owe me. Not not her fault I took the risk. December came and she gave me my money. She didn't give it to me on the day she received her 6000 but a week afterwards. That was a risky thing but I'm a sucker for friends and family members. I saw her in the mall yesterday buying some stuff at the last minute for New Years. She stopped me and told me she might need to borrow a 1000 from me for her car and she will pay me back income tax time. She just had well over six thousand dollars three weeks ago. I hate the snowball effect of being generous. I dislike the idea of people basing paying me when they receive their income taxes. Like that's some guaranteed money.
SavePros321
01-01-15, 19:30
Me too Pro Pimpin. It's the snowball effect after granting the first request I am scared of. I had a cousin that was going through financial difficulties about 3 months ago. She needed $500 and came to me. I granted her request because I know for sure she was getting at least 6000 in December. We agreed she will give me my money when she received her check. She has hit cash 3 at least three times before the month of December however, she didn't give me one dime toward the money she owe me. Not not her fault I took the risk. December came and she gave me my money. She didn't give it to me on the day she received her 6000 but a week afterwards. That was a risky thing but I'm a sucker for friends and family members. I saw her in the mall yesterday buying some stuff at the last minute for New Years. She stopped me and told me she might need to borrow a 1000 from me for her car and she will pay me back income tax time. She just had well over six thousand dollars three weeks ago. I hate the snowball effect of being generous. I dislike the idea of people basing paying me when they receive their income taxes. Like that's some guaranteed money.Like the saying goes: "Family will be the first to fuck you over", LOL.
Prior to my Thanksgiving trip to Medellin I had a regular that I bang a least once per trip (so like 8 times now) ask me for money via Whatsapp. I lied and told her that I didn't have the money because I was caring for a family member that had cancer.
I will admit that the thought of her not wanting to see me next trip because I did not send her any money did cross my mind, but two facts overruled my thinking:
1) There are way too many chicas that give good "Juice" (the term you like to use often) to be concerned with just one. Last trip I knocked down 20 chicas and still had about 5 I couldn't get around to because of time constraints.
2) I would feel like a sucker if I sent her the money (it was a nominal amount: $50 USD) and then when I got there she gave me excuses why she couldn't visit me or turned her phone off.
In the end I did not send her any money and still banged her back out when I got into town.
But these are examples of my dealings with Pros. Which is why I told GrownMan I could not speak on Mr. Gogo's post much because he was not dealing with a hooker. I have pros with some fine ass friends and family members on FB. Some of them are not in the game. I asked my one amigas if she would introduce me to her cousin and she told me: "Amor, ella es una chica muy seria. Tiene un novio y ella no sale con nadie." Translated, her cousin is not a pro, has a boyfriend, and would not be interested in p4p. But man her cousin is hella fyne! If I were tapping that ass as her boyfriend and she asked me to send her $120, that request might be hard to turn down my friend, hahaha.Thats what I thought was a concern for Mr G, that the chica would not want to see him again because he didn't send his friend the money. However two things happened in their exchange. One is he stopped taking her calls, and Two, refused to send money. His loss could easily be attributed to how he handled the matter, not because he didn't send money. But his focus appears to be on the $120 when I think his focus should be on how he blocked communication.
The things that overruled your thinking may be different for Mr G, since his experience with Cuban women is still developing. By the time Mr G returns, he'll have the opportunity to see how the woman responds to him. He may find that she has not changed one bit. That the money was never a priority? And perhaps the issue is really Mr G is evolving from something he is used to with women, and going into somewhat unfamiliar territory with Cuban women (or just that Cuban woman)?
Like you, I think Mr G will be right where he left off with that young lady when he returns (even without sending money). Banging her to his hearts content, and living his fantasy. But it's true. Many guys don't want to push the envelope, testing a womans loyalty / interest. That could destroy the fantasy we created of the woman. Nor do we want to be regarded as cheap or insensitive, when we know they know we can afford to give almost indiscriminately.
I'm lost here with all your jargon, fast tracking in cycles 1 & 2 ?Surfer go to Mr G's forum and read His post. He talks about cycles 1, 2 and 3.
SavePros321
01-01-15, 19:53
I am loving this conversation and the different points of view. The topic of money and how we spend it is a very subjective issue. Recently I was in Santiago with a chica without a job who was reportedly a student, in my experience that is often an open door for a semi pro. At no time did we discuss money and there were only subtle hints about sex. We did a TLN on our second date and when we woke up in the morning I was still not sure about how to handle the money so I put 2 k in my pocket before I walked her outside to get a cab. I paid the taxi and nothing was said about money. We have whatsapped a few times and money has not come up.
Generally under the aforementioned circumstances a "regalo de dinero" would be expected but we have to be careful not to turn civilian, non pros into semi-pros. One of the disadvantages to being a monger is often equating sex to money more often than not it is but it felt good to experience the difference. Going forward I am going to be very sensitive as to whether money is appropriate and how much.The one reason trying to have a relationship with "non-pro" in another country is difficult if you do not live there full time is because, just like a woman in the USA, women like to ask for money and expect you to give them money. Otherwise you are labeled as a "broke-ass ninja" (even if you've got loot) and she moves on to the next guy who will spend freely on her.
If you are only in the DR once every 3 months or so, she has 90 days to hit you up for money request multiple times during that time frame. If you have this girl as your "main chick", you will feel pressured to comply because you are basing your next time in country on being only with her, but she could decide to bail if you don't give into her demands. That's the Juju Magic non-pros hold over guys that decide to go that route. Plus, if you do send her money, you are locking yourself into only going back to that destination (I. E. The DR) to see her in order to recoup some of your investment. Meaning, you cannot just up and decide to go to Brazil or Thailand without taking a loss on your DR chica if you've sent her $300 or so.
If your main chica is educated and has a job, then that's a plus because there is a chance she may not hit you up for money (but don't be surprised if she does; even your girlfriend or wife in the USA who has a good paying job would still hit you up for money). But the ideal situation is if you are able to be there permanently, or at least every one to two months for at least 2 weeks.
The idea of "less used" pussy fascinates all of us, but it is not without its headaches.
Camaro1257
01-01-15, 20:02
The one reason trying to have a relationship with "non-pro" in another country is difficult if you do not live there full time is because, just like a woman in the USA, women like to ask for money and expect you to give them money. But the ideal situation is if you are able to be there permanently, or at least every one to two months for at least 2 weeks.
The idea of "less used" pussy fascinates all of us, but it is not without its headaches.I plan to be doing 2-3 month stints starting next month therefore I have to find another rhythm other than paying 2 k a hit. There has got to be a better way!
I am loving this conversation and the different points of view. The topic of money and how we spend it is a very subjective issue. Recently I was in Santiago with a chica without a job who was reportedly a student, in my experience that is often an open door for a semi pro. At no time did we discuss money and there were only subtle hints about sex. We did a TLN on our second date and when we woke up in the morning I was still not sure about how to handle the money so I put 2 k in my pocket before I walked her outside to get a cab. I paid the taxi and nothing was said about money. We have whatsapped a few times and money has not come up.
Generally under the aforementioned circumstances a "regalo de dinero" would be expected but we have to be careful not to turn civilian, non pros into semi-pros. One of the disadvantages to being a monger is often equating sex to money more often than not it is but it felt good to experience the difference. Going forward I am going to be very sensitive as to whether money is appropriate and how much.I too have had similar experiences with some women. No money being discussed. No talk about her being compensated. For me it's kneejerk to be impressed so easily and quickly when some women do that. Especially in the beginning. But what is interesting about those assessments is that they all were made over a short period of time. Very often only from our 1st encounter.
Months down the road, after consistent interaction I learned more about them. By then, they did expect help, compensation. By then I forgot all about how things were in the beginning. Internally I justified it. That their current interest in my $input $ is about, that was then, this is now. In other words, it inevitably comes out much later that the woman expects something from the man. Inspite of my kneejerk reaction of being impressed always in the beginning, I'd be more impressed if me or other dudes report the same woman never asking or (taking money from a man) after, lets say 6 months of fucking his brains out. Now that would be truly impressive. My overall point is, a woman not asking for money, or talking about money is really nothing to be impressed by.
Just like women shouldn't necessarily be overly impressed by a man who doesn't work towards getting the juice as soon as he can from a woman. Women and men alike are both capable of playing the waiting game. Moreover, we usually are much older than many of the women we deal with. Some women may be afraid to ask for money or compensation, because their biggest fear is being perceived as a puta. And that may be the main reason a young lady may not hint about money or compensation. It's not unreasonable to consider the possibility that some women hope the guy offers, and does it smoothly so she doesn't look like a puta.
Another strategy is a woman can discuss her problems with a guy. She won't ask, but she may hope that his awareness of her needs kicks in. If she regards him as her novio, then it's likely she will expect him to offer help. Eventually! The question isnt only about does she want compensation/help, the important consideration is when?
Surfer go to Mr G's forum and read His post. He talks about cycles 1, 2 and 3.WRX makes good points. Maybe cycle 3 is cycle 1 in a new place with new dynamics. Sorry guys I'm on delay and when the board moves fast my posts get buried. I knew the risk when I did my original post and I accept every good and bad comment that comes with it. There are some boring guys on this board who are scared of having a conversation and putting themselves out there, they just stay in the woods (Grownmans words). I'm glad the real dudes stepped up for this 2015 roll call and joined in the conversation and offer their opinions.
We better get back to pussy hunting before the hounds come out the woods on us LOL.
Camaro1257
01-01-15, 20:16
It's not unreasonable to consider the possibility that some women hope the guy offers, and does it smoothly so she doesn't look like a puta.
Another strategy is a woman can discuss her problems with a guy. She won't ask, but she may hope that his awareness of her needs kicks in. If she regards him as her novio, then it's likely she will expect him to offer help. Eventually! The question isnt only about does she want compensation/help, the important consideration is when?I know she probably has a long game but I was still impressed because I have been dealing with too many PFP chicas and internet chicas that immediately ask for money. It was refreshing to get "the juice" after only paying for dinner and drinks like the old days before I started mongering. I just have to find my groove because dealing with civilian non pros is a lot more tricky than straight PFP.
The one reason trying to have a relationship with "non-pro" in another country is difficult if you do not live there full time is because, just like a woman in the USA, women like to ask for money and expect you to give them money. Otherwise you are labeled as a "broke-ass ninja" (even if you've got loot) and she moves on to the next guy who will spend freely on her.
If you are only in the DR once every 3 months or so, she has 90 days to hit you up for money request multiple times during that time frame. If you have this girl as your "main chick", you will feel pressured to comply because you are basing your next time in country on being only with her, but she could decide to bail if you don't give into her demands. That's the Juju Magic non-pros hold over guys that decide to go that route. Plus, if you do send her money, you are locking yourself into only going back to that destination (I. E. The DR) to see her in order to recoup some of your investment. Meaning, you cannot just up and decide to go to Brazil or Thailand without taking a loss on your DR chica if you've sent her $300 or so.
If your main chica is educated and has a job, then that's a plus because there is a chance she may not hit you up for money (but don't be surprised if she does; even your girlfriend or wife in the USA who has a good paying job would still hit you up for money). But the ideal situation is if you are able to be there permanently, or at least every one to two months for at least 2 weeks.
The idea of "less used" pussy fascinates all of us, but it is not without its headaches.Thats why I was asking; what fantasy or performance is a dude paying for if he is not there with the woman? And, what is a guy losing or sacrificing by not complying with a monetary request? Is the loss real or imagined?
You are correct. If a dude sends money to a woman, with the expectation that the money is going towards some future benefit, he could be setting himself up for a headache. And signaling to the woman to continue to dangle the juice carrot in the mans face. "Baby, now I need money for school" When that happens, the man feels "Now I got to get back there and get compensated for what I put out. " Like the contractor, there isn't much incentive for her to complete the transaction. She's already fully paid. It's much better for her to be on the incentive side of the equation, where she performs 1st to be rewarded afterwards. It could be something small like simply showing her a good time. To paying her rent or something significant.
I know she probably has a long game but I was still impressed because I have been dealing with too many PFP chicas and internet chicas that immediately ask for money. It was refreshing to get "the juice" after only paying for dinner and drinks like the old days before I started mongering. I just have to find my groove because dealing with civilian non pros is a lot more tricky than straight PFP.I hear you. I too enjoy the high for the moment, of being impressed by stuff like that.
Dealing with too many PFP and internet chicas is why it may be a little harder for us to know the appropriate response for each non-pro chica we encounter. Thats nothing for us to feel bad or awkward about in those moments. Thats just the way it is. Dealing more with non pros gives us the opportunity to develop more skills and awareness with those types of women. However, like I said before. Time is the important element here. Sooner or later it's going to come out, what a womans other motivations are with us. Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with us sitting back and letting the game come to us. She'll let us know if she eventually expects something from us. I haven't met a woman yet who had a problem getting to the point when they finally want something from me. And I surely won't underestimate the capabilities of non pros eventually seeking what they want as well.
I plan to be doing 2-3 month stints starting next month therefore I have to find another rhythm other than paying 2 k a hit. There has got to be a better way!Going without for awhile is one option. As you know, I was in the DR for 5 months. I didn't have a woman every day, sometimes no woman for 5 days. Quite often I used my time off to rebuild my reserves (leche), and save money. Secondly, over the years I always developed having regulars that I rotated every few days. That gave me the variety I liked, and I took a lessor hit from chicas that would accept less for TLN. Plus I still checked out fresh faces that came on the scene from time to time.
None of these chicas were novias, so that still leaves me free to do exactly what you want to do. Explore outside Sosua. Having regulars is cool, so that if a dude isn't fulfilled while on expedition, he always has his regulars available to take care of his needs. Now if a dude finds a chica where he doesn't have to spend money per encounter, that may suit him just fine. Until he finds something about that situation that isn't quite appealing. Like a major demand of his time. One shouldn't devalue those 2 k hits with no strings. They may still have a place in the grand scheme of things.
Or another option? We could jerk off more, and then fantasize about the girl we want to be with, and save all of that money we would have spent for a nice expedition. Boy what would life be like without a sex drive?
I've never been to Sosua, and just drove through Boca Chica. I'm in the USA and have tomorrow (Thursday) through Sunday available. Should I take a first trip to Sosua or go to Boca Chica / Santo Domingo. I've been online today and have a half dozen specific women interested in meeting me in BC / SD, but no established contacts in POP / Sosua. Which location should I go to? I'm traveling solo.Unless you are flying into Santiago or PP, I say you should stick to the area that you are familiar with. Boca Chica is no Sosua however you have hookups in Boca and you are familiar with the area. Unless you speak understandable Spanish traveling solo to Sosua from Santo Domingo I do not suggest. One of the best things about Boca Chica is its proximity to the airport it's simple for one to take baby steps. Is the best place on the south coast for p4 p. Read up a little in the Boca Chica threat because there are a lot of pitfalls in that small town. If you need contact set up hit me up I have a few friends there at the moment.
I've never been to Sosua, and just drove through Boca Chica. I'm in the USA and have tomorrow (Thursday) through Sunday available. Should I take a first trip to Sosua or go to Boca Chica / Santo Domingo. I've been online today and have a half dozen specific women interested in meeting me in BC / SD, but no established contacts in POP / Sosua. Which location should I go to? I'm traveling solo.You don't need any contacts in Sosua which is very user friendly. Skip Boca Chica as it is the armpit of the DR.
You don't need any contacts in Sosua which is very user friendly. Skip Boca Chica as it is the armpit of the DR.I agree but he only has three days.
Having worked in Thailand, Phils and primarily "over there" on the other side of the world, I can DEFINITELY say you will get GFE OVER THERE. I felt safer in recently bombed Nairobi, Kenya than in Sousua. GFE from the most bootyful women you will ever meet, and there are millions in Nairobi. Pinays are the sweetest women in the world by nature. Just look at how they pose so willingly for pics while bare assed and being shagged in that forum. I got a very bad taste for Sousua. I bought one biatch a beer and she thought she owned me. I only monger in this hemisphere when I'm stuck in the states for an extended period.I used to follow that one German dude who sold the VCDs of his adventures and I have to say. Those Kenyan women were incredible! How do they compare in bed with the Sosua chicas?
AAin't that the damn truth. in Boca Chica I asked the bums for money before they asked me. I always remind them I gave last time now it's your turn. If you can't return the favor don't talk to me no more you are useless. They avoid you like to plague when you remind them they owe you something.That is one to remember. LOL.
That is one to remember. LOL.Keep in mind though that Grownman looks like a bum and can blend right in with the Boca Chica beggars and hustlers.
I plan to be doing 2-3 month stints starting next month therefore I have to find another rhythm other than paying 2 k a hit. There has got to be a better way!If you are going to be down there on a regular basis or for a long term residence, just keep in mind that sex is a commodity, and just like with food, transportation, and accommodation, and it pays off big time to get properly organized.
You can get tired of renting a different car every day, changing hotel rooms every week, or running out to a fast food joint at 2. 00 am looking for something to eat. Same with women.
Judging from what you post here, I'm sure you'll have no difficulty in finding a good economical and convenient arrangement for all your needs down there.
DR is that kind of place.
Good luck! And keep the reports coming.
Cam find someone you enjoy being with but let them no that you have someone else in another town. Let her think she is the other women. She will be pleasant and work hard to be number one. Having a regular girl has some great benefits. They will cook clean and and keep your johnson busy. Dominican women are great in relationships. Popi is boss and gets all the benefits.
If you are going to be down there on a regular basis or for a long term residence, just keep in mind that sex is a commodity, and just like with food, transportation, and accommodation, and it pays off big time to get properly organized.
You can get tired of renting a different car every day, changing hotel rooms every week, or running out to a fast food joint at 2. 00 am looking for something to eat. Same with women.
Judging from what you post here, I'm sure you'll have no difficulty in finding a good economical and convenient arrangement for all your needs down there.
DR is that kind of place.
Good luck! And keep the reports coming.
Camaro1257
01-02-15, 19:18
Thanks for your encouragement. I am in the process of setting up some mutually beneficial relationships as a type. I am enjoying the journey but our previous conversations about "ayuda" and "Western Union" is being tested. What Wrx2005 said about chicas intentions being delayed is so true. I am starting to see the character of a few chicas I have been working for a while. Sometimes it takes a while to tell the difference between a rock and a turtle.
Another interesting phenomenon I am seeing is sometimes there is no request for money but instead request for gifts. The request can range from a bikini to an Iphone6. I am developing a strategy that includes giving gifts but nothing that exceeds my "toto budget" in the same way we set caps on what we pay our PFP chicas. I know we all differ in what we pay and are willing to give but for me I am discovering the best path to take for civilian non pros is to give but to stop short of everything that she wants. I realize I will have to pay one way or the other but I think it is important to maintain my leverage in order to make this an enjoyable dance for everybody at the party.
Cam find someone you enjoy being with but let them no that you have someone else in another town. Let her think she is the other women. She will be pleasant and work hard to be number one. Having a regular girl has some great benefits. They will cook clean and and keep your johnson busy. Dominican women are great in relationships. Popi is boss and gets all the benefits.Its funny how the mind works. I told a young lady that I have an older Puerto Rican mujer that owns a woman clothing store and takes care of me but she despises Dominican. I told her she gives me money and I give the money to you. You should have seen the devilish grin on the young chica's face. She made a motion and reference to the Puerto Rican lady sorta like giving her the finger. She really enjoyed the ideal that she was getting over. Her position was to satisfied me just and she liked it.
Does anyone know what the going rate is on the streets of Sosua?
Thanks
Does anyone know what the going rate is on the streets of Sosua?
ThanksDepending where you go from 43 to 44.
$44.07 at Caribe express in Cabarete.
We practice this hobby because where we live 20 year old pussy is no longer on the menu. Women here act like they are doing you a favor when they speak to you. Cam the non pro ladies in the DR treat their men very different. My non pro ladies in the DR make an effort to satisfy me. The pussy always seems to be wet and ready. They value having a man in ways American women have forgotten. Most guys who go to the DR never interact with the non puta women of the DR. You have a chance to have a different experience. You may no longer need to monger or maybe not LOL.
Its funny how the mind works. I told a young lady that I have an older Puerto Rican mujer that owns a woman clothing store and takes care of me but she despises Dominican. I told her she gives me money and I give the money to you. You should have seen the devilish grin on the young chica's face. She made a motion and reference to the Puerto Rican lady sorta like giving her the finger. She really enjoyed the ideal that she was getting over. Her position was to satisfied me just and she liked it.
SavePros321
01-03-15, 02:25
Women here act like they are doing you a favor when they speak to you. Cam the non pro ladies in the DR treat their men very different. My non pro ladies in the DR make an effort to satisfy me. The pussy always seems to be wet and ready. They value having a man in ways American women have forgotten. Most guys who go to the DR never interact with the non puta women of the DR. You have a chance to have a different experience. You may no longer need to monger or maybe not LOL.The (GOOD) difference between the USA and the DR is that if your "non-pro" does not give up the booty on the first date, or if a chica you are trying to bed thinks she has "Chocha de Oro (pussy of gold)", you can always call up your pro contacts or go to a casa to satisfy your sexual needs. This allows you to play the waiting game much longer with the added bonus of not having to worry about being arrested.
Imagine what the dating scene in the USA would be like if we had that option as well? But that would be giving men too much power and deprive American Women of the "Pussy Made of Gold" aurora they hold over us. The Feminazi's and their Beta Bucks male counterparts will have none of that!
Keep that monger card as your trump card always, lol!
We practice this hobby because where we live 20 year old pussy is no longer on the menu. Women here act like they are doing you a favor when they speak to you...You have a chance to have a different experience. You may no longer need to monger or maybe notI suppose you mean by "here", the US or the Western countries in general. I think we all agree on that. However, you take it a bit too far when you say one may no longer need to monger. Did you forget about the pleasure of variety, and the excitement of tasting a new pussy?
Camaro1257
01-03-15, 03:58
We practice this hobby because where we live 20 year old pussy is no longer on the menu. Women here act like they are doing you a favor when they speak to you. Cam the non pro ladies in the DR treat their men very different. My non pro ladies in the DR make an effort to satisfy me. The pussy always seems to be wet and ready. They value having a man in ways American women have forgotten. Most guys who go to the DR never interact with the non puta women of the DR. You have a chance to have a different experience. You may no longer need to monger or maybe not LOL.I know what you is saying is true, what I am finding difficult is making the change. It is natural for me to default to the PFP mindset but I am developing a sense for what is appropriate with each chica based on how she responds to me. PFP eventually will be on the back burner for me as I enjoy the GFE but it is good to have options.
Mr Enternational
01-03-15, 04:33
I know what you is saying is true, what I am finding difficult is making the change. It is natural for me to default to the PFP mindset but I am developing a sense for what is appropriate with each chica based on how she responds to me. PFP eventually will be on the back burner for me as I enjoy the GFE but it is good to have options.Come on over to the light. This is what I have been saying for years while everyone was calling me crazy and telling me that every woman in DR is expecting you to give them money. It's natural for me to default that the woman is not a hooker unless I meet her in a P4 P venue. I enjoy GFE with regular women and have always kept the P4 P on the back burner or as an "in case of emergency. ".
20 year old women are physically attracted to 20 something men it is natural law. These same women are economically attracted to our wealth. Trust me E the ladies you and me did not fuck us because we were so good looking. Nope. Like Cam says some take a little time but they all see pie in our wallets. Real talk. It is not the dick it is them dead presidents.
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Come on over to the light. This is what I have been saying for years while everyone was calling me crazy and telling me that every woman in DR is expecting you to give them money. It's natural for me to default that the woman is not a hooker unless I meet her in a P4 P venue. I enjoy GFE with regular women and have always kept the P4 P on the back burner or as an "in case of emergency. "..
Marc Anthony
01-03-15, 07:33
20 year old women are physically attracted to 20 something men it is natural law. These same women are economically attracted to our wealth. Trust me E the ladies you and me did not fuck us because we were so good looking. Nope. Like Cam says some take a little time but they all see pie in our wallets. Real talk. It is not the dick it is them dead presidents.
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.You're right to a certain extent. OTOH females just aren't as turned on by appearance. Everybody is attracted to beauty but men are much more sexually attracted by looks alone. Females care much more about who the guy is. Status matters to them. Money influences status. So does confidence, reputation, dress, especially power. High status men (whatever that means in a given situation) tend to be physically sexually attractive to women. High status women aren't especially attractive to men. To a certain extent guys with money actually ARE physically attractive to women. Beyond the promise of gain. Beyond that, some young women have a daddy fetish. They really are turned on by older guys more than guys their own age. Not saying that a lot of it isn't just p4 p but it's simply not true that young women are never genuinely physically attracted to much older guys. Cultural differences that would be true for guys their own age can be an even bigger deal breaker though.
ForceSteeler
01-03-15, 10:09
The (GOOD) difference between the USA and the DR is that if your "non-pro" does not give up the booty on the first date, or if a chica you are trying to bed thinks she has "Chocha de Oro (pussy of gold)", you can always call up your pro contacts or go to a casa to satisfy your sexual needs. This allows you to play the waiting game much longer with the added bonus of not having to worry about being arrested.
Imagine what the dating scene in the USA would be like if we had that option as well? But that would be giving men too much power and deprive American Women of the "Pussy Made of Gold" aurora they hold over us. The Feminazi's and their Beta Bucks male counterparts will have none of that!
Keep that monger card as your trump card always, lol!Yeah if Prostitution was legal in the USA. The Value of Pussy would drop tomorrow. But the Feminist Movement and Corporate America would not like that. Corporate need pussy whipped men because they need men to buy material garbage in order to impress women.
And girlfriend and wives can't use pussy as a weapon because all a man has to go is go to a Local Legal brothel or Casa and get a 18 year old Fresh pussy if his wife is acting up.
I'll be landing at POP in the afternoon. Do I have to pre-book a taxi to take me to Sosa, or will there be plenty lined up?
Charles Pooter
01-03-15, 17:12
I'll be landing at POP in the afternoon. Do I have to pre-book a taxi to take me to Sosa, or will there be plenty lined up?There will be many eager for your custom. There is a notice board with fixed charges.
In general it is not a good idea to book or reserve anything on the North Coast, whether taxis, hotel rooms, restaurant tables, or chicas, etc. Real time negotiating will achieve better results, plus Dominicans are more than capable of fucking up your advance reservations or ignoring them if someone makes a better offer or offers spot cash, or they can't be bothered to get out of bed. Finally there can be many genuine reasons why they do not honor an agreement. Daily life here is peppered with incidents to throw your plans off course. Traffic accidents, power outages, plumbing disasters, flooding, strikes and demonstrations, etc.
Keep your schedule flexible so that you can go with the flow. I am currently baby-sitting a first-time visitor from the UK and I have saved him a lot of money and holiday time by ignoring his pleas to pre-book and plan every move.
Charles Pooter
01-03-15, 17:17
Yeah if Prostitution was legal in the USA. The Value of Pussy would drop tomorrow.Not necessarily. Prostitution is legal in the UK and most European countries but the position and rights of women in society is not much different in the more "advanced" countries. A bit different in the southern and eastern European countries but for other long-standing cultural reasons, nothing to do with prostitution.
SavePros321
01-03-15, 18:14
Not necessarily. Prostitution is legal in the UK and most European countries but the position and rights of women in society is not much different in the more "advanced" countries. A bit different in the southern and eastern European countries but for other long-standing cultural reasons, nothing to do with prostitution.Sir Charles, this is actually the highlight of the reason we said prostitution would never become legal in the US:
girlfriend and wives can't use pussy as a weapon because all a man has to go is go to a Local Legal brothel or Casa and get a 18 year old Fresh pussy if his wife is acting up.It's fine if women in the UK and Europe have "position" and "rights" the same as more advanced countries. The difference is that they can't hold that stuff over the head of the men there since prositution is legal and the males there have alternatives. I'm really surprised that Angela Merkel hadn't tried to shut down prostitution in Germany. Hillary Clinton surely would if she were in charge there.
If I could make the same income in Europe as I currently do then I would be there tomorrow.
Not necessarily. Prostitution is legal in the UK and most European countries but the position and rights of women in society is not much different in the more "advanced" countries. A bit different in the southern and eastern European countries but for other long-standing cultural reasons, nothing to do with prostitution.The same applies in Argentina. Prostitution is not legal but it is very user friendly and no one goes to jail for using brothels.
Despite that, Argentine non pro women are extremely hard to get and the value of the pussy did not diminish anything in relation to the simplicity of getting paid sex.
Charles Pooter
01-03-15, 19:41
The difference is that they can't hold that stuff over the head of the men there ...You think?
Mr Enternational
01-03-15, 19:57
You think?Let them dream mannnnn.
Mr Enternational
01-03-15, 20:00
If I could make the same income in Europe as I currently do then I would be there tomorrow.At 50% taxes would you really do that?
SavePros321
01-03-15, 20:31
At 50% taxes would you really do that?Well, I guess I should have added "make the same income after taxes", LOL. Which is the same reason I don't live in Commiefornia, New York, Jersey, Illinois, etc. In those instances I'd rather live in Europe because if you are going to get rap3d (on taxes) then you might as well enjoy it (ability to pay for pros and not face persecution vs. letting Jerry Brown or Andrew Cuomo empty your pockets and tell you "you can't pay for hookers, but you can smoke as much weed as you like!").
Troubleman69
01-03-15, 22:47
Come on over to the light. This is what I have been saying for years while everyone was calling me crazy and telling me that every woman in DR is expecting you to give them money. It's natural for me to default that the woman is not a hooker unless I meet her in a P4 P venue. I enjoy GFE with regular women and have always kept the P4 P on the back burner or as an "in case of emergency. ".If a person spends all his time chasing hookers, that's all he is going to know.
Most of the guys on this board are lucky if they get one trip a year. So cultivating non pros is not practical. Good p4 p is what they are looking for and the DR has it.
If a person spends all his time chasing hookers, that's all he is going to know.
Troubleman69
01-04-15, 01:43
Most of the guys on this board are lucky if they get one trip a year. So cultivating non pros is not practical. Good p4 p is what they are looking for and the DR has it.I agree, and I'm not knocking how anyone spends their time on their vacation. I was just agreeing with what Mr E posted. Of course P4 P is readily available in the DR, but it's also true that not every woman is looking for some cash when they hook up with you.
Last time I was in Sosua was in March 2014, and had a great time then. Place was lively, safe and there were plenty of decent looking women around. I'm planning on coming back in February, was just wondering what has changed there if anything since then? I've read back loads of pages but can't seem to work out out much from that. Is the'Latins still open? That was definitely the bar where all the life was in March last year! If it's closed, has anywhere decent replaced it as the focal point of nightlife? What about the police controls on the ladies and the general atmosphere, has that changed? When I was there, the atmosphere was pretty relaxed and easy going. Any advice would be really appreciated!
ForceSteeler
01-04-15, 03:16
Most of the guys on this board are lucky if they get one trip a year. So cultivating non pros is not practical. Good p4 p is what they are looking for and the DR has it.Never seen what's the big deal with Non-Pros. If you guys wanted non-pro Spanish girls there are plenty in the United States. Why pay the airfare and hotel fees to go all the way to Dominican Republic?
I assume we monger and fly to all these different countries because we are trying to fuck a lot of girls for the cheapest price. Anything other than that is a waste of time. If your whole goal is to get Non-Pros and court them and not spend money on pussy, then you can do it in your backyard. You can always hit up a club or a lounge in the USA. There's plenty of Dominican, Brazilian women non-pros in the USA. Also never understand guys that send Western Union, again there are plenty of Spanish girls looking.
For a sugar daddy, especially these days, where all you have to due is buy them some Jordan's or designer bag. You can take that Western Union money and trick it on a local Spanish girl looking to make rent. At least you will get the pussy a few times a week.
Then too trick it on a girl 3,000 miles away and you won't see her for another 3-6 months. When your flying to these countries it should be Pay for Play only.
If your looking for a non-pro or serious relationship, You can find tons of girls that are looking for a so called sponsor!
Mr Enternational
01-04-15, 04:03
FS, I think your assumption is way off. I doubt that many people here have their main reason to travel as so they can fuck the most chicks at the lowest price. If that was the case then they missed the mark with the DR. They should try Nicaragua or Ecuador for the $6 chicas.
There is a section in ISG called American Women. You think when women come from other countries to the USA that they stay the same? Seasoned mongers know that you don't bring the foreign woman to your home soil for a permanent stay. Eddie Murphy even told you that in Raw back in 1988. There is a reason for that. So you definitely don't want one who is from or has been a long time resident of your country.
I think you are also assuming that guys are only going for the women because of their ethnic look. If that was the case then as my cousin told me years ago, she said that I don't need any other girls beside a Black one, because there are Black American chicks that look White, Latina, Asian, and everything else in between.
Camaro1257
01-04-15, 05:42
Never seen what's the big deal with Non-Pros. If you guys wanted Non-pros Spanish girls there are plenty in the United States. Why pay the airfare and hotel fees to go all the way to Dominican Republic?
I assume wemonger and fly to all these different countries because we are trying to fuck alot of girls for the cheapest price. Anything other than that is a waste of time. If your whole goal is to get Non-Pros and Court them and not spend money on pussy.
Then you can do it in your backyard. You can always hit up a club or a lounge in the USA. There's plenty of Dominican, Brazilian women Non-Pros in the USA. Also never understand guys that send western union, again there are plenty of Spanish girls looking.
For a sugar daddy, especially these days, where all you have to due is buy them some Jordan's or designer bag. You can take that Western Union money and trick it on a local Spanish girl looking to make rent. At least you will get the pussy a few times a week.
Then too trick it on a girl 3,000 miles away and you won't see her for another 3-6 months. When your flying to these countries it should be Pay for Play only.
If your looking for a Non-Pro or serious relationship, You can find tons of girls that are looking for a so called sponsor!My situation is different from most in that I will be living in the DR in the near future and non-pros provide more of the total experience I desire in a woman than ST PFP. Recently I mixed my PFP with non pros and semi pros for variety and to taste different fruit. In addition there is a different skill set necessary for non pro civilians because it's not all about money, therefore your language skills and personality need to be on point which provides a challenge that I enjoy. In short mongering looks different for different mongers.
ForceSteeler
01-04-15, 07:45
My situation is different from most in that I will be living in the DR in the near future and non-pros provide more of the total experience I desire in a woman than ST PFP. Recently I mixed my PFP with non pros and semi pros for variety and to taste different fruit. In addition there is a different skill set necessary for non pro civilians because it's not all about money, therefore your language skills and personality need to be on point which provides a challenge that I enjoy. In short mongering looks different for different mongers.
Seasoned mongers know that you don't bring the foreign woman to your home soil for a permanent stay. Eddie Murphy even told you that in Raw back in 1988. There is a reason for that. So you definitely don't want one who is from or has been a long time resident of your country.Well If your going to live in DR or stay in DR for a long period of time months on end, then its OK to want a normal women (non-pro) relationship. I'm talking about the guys that only go to DR maybe 1 or 2 times a year. I think its pretty much pointless to have any real.
Serious relationship. I know a couple of guys that so call have a girlfriend in DR, and they send $200-$300 dollars a month via Western union and they only go to DR once per year. I think its pretty stupid because do you honestly think your so call girl is not cheating?
You think is going to wait a whole year while your in the USA? Remember women like sex just like men. Also the difference between a Dominican girl in the USA or a Dominican girl in DR is the same to me, There both materialistic, and my point is if your going to.
Throw money in the garbage by sending Western Union. I would rather trick it on a local Dominican girl from the USA. There are plenty of 18-19 year old Dominican girls that are always looking for a sponsor or a sugar daddy.
My whole point is if your looking for a Non-Pro Action. You don't have to waste thousands of dollars on Airfare and Hotel fees. There are plenty of Non-Pro Dominican girls in the USA.
They should only be 2 times of guys that travel to Sousa DR. Guys that have wives and want there dick wet without messing up home, Or guys that like to sport fuck (guys that want to fuck alot of women in the cheapest way, or just don't have time to waste).
Never seen what's the big deal with Non-Pros. If you guys wanted Non-pros Spanish girls there are plenty in the United States. Why pay the airfare and hotel fees to go all the way to Dominican Republic?Why do you assume everybody here is living in the United States?
What are your experiences with Haitian chicas, compared to Dominican chicas? Are Haitians generally more trouble once you get them to the room?
Charles Pooter
01-04-15, 16:27
Why do you assume everybody here is living in the United States?You obviously haven't had many dealings with Americans. (Clue: The "World Series").
My pet peeve is ordering something from an American internet site. I go all through the process of selecting, registering, bank card details, check my shopping cart, delivery details, etc, then when I press the "confirm" button I get the message "only available in the USA". Why the fuck don't they say that on the first page, not the last?
Charles Pooter
01-04-15, 16:42
What are your experiences with Haitian chicas, compared to Dominican chicas? Are Haitians generally more trouble once you get them to the room?
Less trouble. Haitians of either sex are more reluctant to get into a confrontation because they know that local people and police are unlikely to take their side, whether they are in the right or not. The opposite is the case with Dominicans. And many Haitians are illegal immigrants so like to maintain a low profile
Many of us prefer haitianas. We are in the minority, but it is significant that the percentage rises sharply when you count only ex-pats and frequent visitors, in other words, the preference for haitianas over dominicanas increases with greater experience.
If you speak any French, this is a big advantage with haitianas. Most of them speak a little French, a few speak a lot, but even with those who speak no French (that is to say, never had any schooling above infant level) it helps with communication as the vocabulary of their own language (Haitian Kreyol) is 95% French-based.
Also, appreciation of haitianas is relatively greater among non-US citizens such as Canadians, French, Italian, German and Brits (though not Spanish). (I leave you to work out why that may be).
You obviously haven't had many dealings with Americans. (Clue: The "World Series").
My pet peeve is ordering something from an American internet site. I go all through the process of selecting, registering, bank card details, check my shopping cart, delivery details, etc, then when I press the "confirm" button I get the message "only available in the USA". Why the fuck don't they say that on the first page, not the last?It may be hidden somewhere but generally hard to find it and some of them may assume only Americans would buy from this site since it is American site!
Well If your going to live in DR or stay in DR for a long period of time months on end, then its OK to want a normal women (non-pro) relationship. I'm talking about the guys that only go to DR maybe 1 or 2 times a year. I think its pretty much pointless to have any real.
Serious relationship. I know a couple of guys that so call have a girlfriend in DR, and they send $200-$300 dollars a month via Western union and they only go to DR once per year. I think its pretty stupid because do you honestly think your so call girl is not cheating?
You think is going to wait a whole year while your in the USA? Remember women like sex just like men. Also the difference between a Dominican girl in the USA or a Dominican girl in DR is the same to me, There both materialistic, and my point is if your going to.
Throw money in the garbage by sending Western Union. I would rather trick it on a local Dominican girl from the USA. There are plenty of 18-19 year old Dominican girls that are always looking for a sponsor or a sugar daddy.
My whole point is if your looking for a Non-Pro Action. You don't have to waste thousands of dollars on Airfare and Hotel fees. There are plenty of Non-Pro Dominican girls in the USA.
They should only be 2 times of guys that travel to Sousa DR. Guys that have wives and want there dick wet without messing up home, Or guys that like to sport fuck (guys that want to fuck alot of women in the cheapest way, or just don't have time to waste).I live in Florida and I met one Dominican woman so far. She asked $150 per meeting and I agreed. Things started to change after 2-3 meetings and became leche papi type relation. So I stopped seeing her. We are all different and what we are looking for different. I am like Camaro1257. I only deal with none pros and semi pros. It takes longer and requires some patience. But I love interaction. I speak very little Spanish and use google translator. I really try to communicate and understand the woman and I enjoy it. I get complete satisfaction when GFE, hugging, cuddling and good sex is part of the experience and this is why I am here. It does not cost much to come here from Florida and quality is more important than quantity when one starts to get old.
Well If your going to live in DR or stay in DR for a long period of time months on end, then its OK to want a normal women (non-pro) relationship. I'm talking about the guys that only go to DR maybe 1 or 2 times a year. I think its pretty much pointless to have any real.
Serious relationship. I know a couple of guys that so call have a girlfriend in DR, and they send $200-$300 dollars a month via Western union and they only go to DR once per year. I think its pretty stupid because do you honestly think your so call girl is not cheating?
They should only be 2 times of guys that travel to Sousa DR. Guys that have wives and want there dick wet without messing up home, Or guys that like to sport fuck (guys that want to fuck alot of women in the cheapest way, or just don't have time to waste).Or guys that want to trade the Winter weather for the beach and while doing so, have access to pussy.
I do agree that a serious relationship w a non-pro isn't feasible unless you're on the ground for a while.
Also, appreciation of haitianas is relatively greater among non-US citizens such as Canadians, French, Italian, German and Brits (though not Spanish). (I leave you to work out why that may be).Mr. Pooter, curious as to why you made the statement that non-US citizens have a greater appreciation for Haitians.
My observations have been that more non-US citizens go with the Haitians, however, the US citizens I have met and know in Sosua appreciate / prefer the Haitians over the Dominicans. Did you mean to say what I have observed?
Charles Pooter
01-05-15, 02:42
... the US citizens I have met and know in Sosua appreciate / prefer the Haitians over the Dominicans. Then you are hanging with the right crowd. Congratulations!
I posted a survey once on another board. Preference was 4 to 1 in favor of dominicanas on quite a large sample (about sixty replies if I remember correctly). Did not inquire the nationality of the respondents but they would have been, as here, mostly Americans.
On the other hand, lots of lurkers replied and they probably included many who had never been to the DR and wouldn't know a haitiana if she squatted on their faces, so not very scientific.
Yeah if Prostitution was legal in the USA. The Value of Pussy would drop tomorrow.
I think the men of the USA are ready for this to happen.
Riky Rapido
01-05-15, 02:51
I think the men of the USA are ready for this to happen.You will find the pussy is never free!
FS, I think your assumption is way off. I doubt that many people here have their main reason to travel as so they can fuck the most chicks at the lowest price. If that was the case then they missed the mark with the DR. They should try Nicaragua or Ecuador for the $6 chicas.
Tell us more.
What are your experiences with Haitian chicas, compared to Dominican chicas? Are Haitians generally more trouble once you get them to the room?Yes, the Haitian Chicas can be trouble in the room. Some of them will rip you apart if your not careful.
Tell us more.There's a street in Guayaquil Ecuador, I forget the name, where you can get fucked for $ 6 including the room. I've been there and can attest to what MR. E stated in his post.
You obviously haven't had many dealings with Americans. (Clue: The "World Series").
My pet peeve is ordering something from an American internet site. I go all through the process of selecting, registering, bank card details, check my shopping cart, delivery details, etc, then when I press the "confirm" button I get the message "only available in the USA". Why the fuck don't they say that on the first page, not the last?If you open a (free) account at BM Cargo in Puerto Plata, or Encargo Group in Sosua, then they will give you an account number and a mailing address in Miami near the airport where they will forward your items to you and you can register this as the shipping address with the vendor. The cost is per pound, so it works well for lighter items like clothes or electronics, or indeed mail. It might cost you less than $10 to send an iPad, though items are duty free if less than $200, which rules out an iPad. However you could actually send a TV if it was one of the smaller ones. Using this route to buy something like a laptop computer would save a huge amount over the cost of buying one in the DR. You could get one twice as good for half the price. If you want something like a kitchen blender with a heavy glass jar, it would be more economical to buy at La Sirena than to ship, however something like this would be economical to make batidas. http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-NJ110GR-Express-Chop/dp/B00HL3TBDQ/ref=sr_1_21?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1420427705&sr=1-21&keywords=food+chopper.
If you spend more than $35 at Amazon, you can get the free shipping to Miami and just pay for the last part.
Some e-Bay shippers will ship overseas, but most not.
Serious relationship. I know a couple of guys that so call have a girlfriend in DR, and they send $200-$300 dollars a month via Western union and they only go to DR once per year. I think its pretty stupid because do you honestly think your so call girl is not cheating?Agreed that this makes no sense. Yes, I would imagine the girl would be cheating, but perhaps the guys you know are not bothered about this. Why don't you ask them?
I would rather trick it on a local Dominican girl from the USA. There are plenty of 18-19 year old Dominican girls that are always looking for a sponsor or a sugar daddy.This might be the case in the New York and Miami areas where there are concentrated populations of Dominicans, but not so much elsewhere.
My whole point is if your looking for a Non-Pro Action. You don't have to waste thousands of dollars on Airfare and Hotel fees. There are plenty of Non-Pro Dominican girls in the USA.Yes, but if they are looking for "sponsors" or sugar daddies, then they are not really non-pros.
They should only be 2 times of guys that travel to Sousa DR. Guys that have wives and want there dick wet without messing up home, Or guys that like to sport fuck (guys that want to fuck a lot of women in the cheapest way, or just don't have time to waste).So which category do you fall into? If you are getting your "dick wet" are you not taking a chance on catching something, and how is it cheap if you have to spend "thousands of dollars on Airfare and Hotel fees"?
How about adding another category of men who want to have no strings sex with attractive much younger women while taking a short and relaxing vacation where they will not stand out like a sore thumb as a single man alone, which they probably would if they went to Crater Lake or the Grand Canyon or Key West, and without any risk of breaking any prostitution laws or getting involved with the local Dominican underworld in their home city in the US or giving their phone number to some chick who may turn out to be a psycho?
ForceSteeler
01-05-15, 05:15
Yes, but if they are looking for "sponsors" or sugar daddies, then they are not really non-pros.Non-Pros in my dictionary to me is a girl that does not sell her ass for a living. But in my experience most women are undercover hookers anyways. They may not walk the streets to sell there ass. But if a guy pulls up in a Ferrari, or just signed a Multi-Million dollar NBA.
Contract, there willing to give up some ass in a heart beat no questions ask if they know its a chance for guaranteed security. Like Child Support Payments and Alimony Payments.
My whole point is that I see some guys try to put down mongers because they P4P and they.
So call get Non-Pros which makes them feel kinda superior. I'm just saying why fly 3,000 miles for so call Non-Pros when you can just hit up Miami or NewYork Club Scene. At Least when I hit on and charm a Non-Pro in the United States and she is feeling me, I would.
More trust a Non-Pro in the USA, then a so call Non-Pro in the Dominican Republic because you do not know her true intentions are. She might just want a green card, or she might change once she comes to the USA. I would admit that the Dominican Girls in the USA.
Are spoiled and rotten but when you do catch one and you start dating her and she is feeling you, At least you know there is no hidden agenda, like a typical 3rd World Girl.
Just my 2 Cents.
Mongering is only one aspect of DR life. It happens to be a shared interest amongst us hobbyists here, but be wary of assuming mongering experiences can be applied to DR life in general.
There are lots of DR women who are being supported by, and even married to, foreign men who don't reside in the DR. There are chicos with generous French Canadian mommas, not to mention long distance gay relationships. We are talking condos, SUVs, motorbikes here. You won't generally meet them in Sosua, or BC.
These are not street hookers, but are often employed in businesses controlled by investors, and these guys can be very demanding and exercise control not only through money, but through family, friends and other employees, They demand exclusivity for their money, and the myth that there are lots of Sosua putas with multiple Western Union boyfriends is no more accurate than the portrayal of prostitution in "Pretty Woman". A regular WU remittance can be hard to come by, and even harder to maintain. There are no secrets in Sosua.
As to "cheating", if the foreign gringo can demand a weeks service 24/7 at a moments notice, seems to me the local boyfriend should be the one worried about cheating.
And does a guy like Hugh Hefner really go to bed worrying about his stable of playboy bunnies "cheating", because some of them have boyfriends back home?
These are some of the things to be aware of when contemplating long term residency, or long term GF relationships.
In the interests of full disclosure, I have a long term DR "GF". And a lot of what I post here, is from her experiences and observations.
You will be surprised how many want to keep a GF by sending support every month. They are not really buying fidelity. They want a smiling girl meet them at the airport and keep them company. I know of some who keep two or three in different parts of the world.
Some buy cars, condos for the girls to stay. I had fun with some of these girls in Thailand, Philippines and China. I do not think sugar daddies have expectations that their girlfriends do not open their legs when they are not in town.
If they think like that they are delusional.
I personally have supported some girls in Thailand, Philippines and China mainly for studies. Yes, paid the rent for the apartment. Gave gifts and took them shopping. In return they gave me good service. No need to go look for a girl and throw a dice to see if we have a good time. No scams to deal with. Of course after some time I have stopped the support and looked for new girls. For me it works very well if I show up once in every two months. I was doing that travelling many times a year for business. Have taken many beautiful girls as travelling companion all over. It is definitely worth it rather than being a monger every day looking for compatibility. Advantages are moment you land at the airport your sexual needs are taken care of and companionship is guaranteed by the girl you know. Disadvantages are you do not get to taste other apples in the same area.
After having done that nowadays I am strictly a monger looking for dating site girls and occasionally working girls. Experiences vary on a scale from excellent to bad.
To each his own. There are some who do not think twice about dropping thousands of dollars for a girl while others want to spend as less as possible. There is no reason to debate this behavior of supporting girls.
After having done that nowadays I am strictly a monger looking for dating site girls and occasionally working girls. Experiences vary on a scale from excellent to bad.
To each his own. There are some who do not think twice about dropping thousands of dollars for a girl while others want to spend as less as possible. There is no reason to debate this behavior of supporting girls.I always say if you feel its an even swap; it aint no swindle.
You will be surprised how many want to keep a GF by sending support every month. They are not really buying fidelity. They want a smiling girl meet them at the airport and keep them company. I know of some who keep two or three in different parts of the world.
I am strictly a monger looking for dating site girls and occasionally working girls. Experiences vary on a scale from excellent to bad.
To each his own. There are some who do not think twice about dropping thousands of dollars for a girl while others want to spend as less as possible. There is no reason to debate this behavior of supporting girls.I fall right into this category with a GF in Mexico and one in the DR (however looking for more as always). You are right on the money in my opinion with what you have said.
I'm just saying why fly 3,000 miles for so call Non-Pros when you can just hit up Miami or NewYork Club Scene. Last time I checked hotels, airport transfers, taxis, and restaurants were pretty expensive in New York and Miami Beach compared to the DR, whereas in Sosua you have everything close by, hotel rooms with an excellent breakfast for well under $100 per night, (actually under $50 a night if you want to economize a bit), a good dinner for $10 to $12, a beach nearby and at Cabarete, cheap barbershops, massages, manicures, windsurfing, etc.
Of course the DR cannot match the old-fashioned welcome and general courtesy that a visitor will receive in New York.
Tempoecorto
01-06-15, 06:48
Last time I checked hotels, airport transfers, taxis, and restaurants were pretty expensive in New York and Miami Beach compared to the DR.The problem is that many on this board would not know or have seen anything beyond NYC or other large cities in the US. To that extent, it would be hard for them to have any understanding of a non-US perspective. US and ideally NYC is the be all and end all of their universe. In addition, this group, expect "loyalty" of the women in exchange for money, without realizing that the senders have indeed an agenda that this group cannot conceive of, much less comprehend.
Last time I checked hotels, airport transfers, taxis, and restaurants were pretty expensive in New York and Miami Beach compared to the DR, whereas in Sosua you have everything close by, hotel rooms with an excellent breakfast for well under $100 per night, (actually under $50 a night if you want to economize a bit), a good dinner for $10 to $12, a beach nearby and at Cabarete, cheap barbershops, massages, manicures, windsurfing, etc.
Of course the DR cannot match the old-fashioned welcome and general courtesy that a visitor will receive in New York.Good point.
From where I am (an hour away by plane), an all in week in NYC would cost me close to 3000 Canadian, and I wouldn't know where to begin trying to laid. At my age, I don't think I'd blend in with the "club scene".
The same all inclusive week in Sosua, (3 1/2 hours away) can be had for 650 Canadian, and all the local cheap pussy you could want, not to mention the sun and the beach.
No brainer for this monger.
Good point.
From where I am (an hour away by plane), an all in week in NYC would cost me close to 3000 Canadian, and I wouldn't know where to begin trying to laid. At my age, I don't think I'd blend in with the "club scene".
The same all inclusive week in Sosua, (3 1/2 hours away) can be had for 650 Canadian, and all the local cheap pussy you could want, not to mention the sun and the beach.
No brainer for this monger.Who knows in NYC you may spend another 3000 Canadian to get lucky!
Tempoecorto
01-07-15, 00:41
The same all inclusive week in Sosua, (3 1/2 hours away) can be had for 650 Canadian, and all the local cheap pussy you could want, not to mention the sun and the beach.Sorry bro, 650 CAD for an all inclusive (I presume you mean food and lodging) week, women included? Where?
Charles Pooter
01-07-15, 02:34
Sorry bro, 650 CAD for an all inclusive (I presume you mean food and lodging) week, women included? Clearly women not included. If they were, it would be irrelevant whether they were "cheap" or not.
Pull yourself together, Tempoecorto. I don't want to have to fail you on Reading Comprehension.
Tempoecorto
01-07-15, 04:22
Pull yourself together, Tempoecorto. I don't want to have to fail you on Reading Comprehension.Touche'! Well merited rebuke. LOL! Nonetheless an all inclusive week for 650 CAD still sounds fantastical. I thought those places, even though I have never frequented one, were fairly pricey.
Clearly women not included. If they were, it would be irrelevant whether they were "cheap" or not.
Pull yourself together, Tempoecorto. I don't want to have to fail you on Reading Comprehension.
You are being a little tough on one of our EFL students. The all-inclusives that include hands-on personal care services as well as food and drink do tend to be quite a bit more expensive. It is more practical to get an expensive room and a cheap woman than the other way round.
Touche'! Well merited rebuke. LOL! Nonetheless an all inclusive week for 650 CAD still sounds fantastical. I thought those places, even though I have never frequented one, were fairly pricey.Here ya go!
Nolitours, Jan 9, Toronto to PP via CanJet, $593 (US) - Double Room, Single Occupancy, All inclusive, Casa Marina Beach. 7 nights, 8 days.
(Not to be confused with ALL inclusive, LOL)
Tempoecorto
01-08-15, 02:39
Here ya go!
Nolitours, Jan 9, Toronto to PP via CanJet, $593 (US) - Double Room, Single Occupancy, All inclusive, Casa Marina Beach. 7 nights, 8 days.
(Not to be confused with ALL inclusive, LOL)Whoa. Flight, food and lodging? That too direct to PP? From Boston, PP is frightfully expensive as a flight option (and so I go to STI), not to speak of food and lodging etc. You lucky dog! I hope you took advantage of the offer and flying down on the 9th. And I will have fun, vicariously, through you.
Whoa. Flight, food and lodging? That too direct to PP? From Boston, PP is frightfully expensive as a flight option (and so I go to STI), not to speak of food and lodging etc. You lucky dog! I hope you took advantage of the offer and flying down on the 9th. And I will have fun, vicariously, through you.We just happen to be lucky.
Air Canada, WestJet, CanJet, SunWing all fly direct from Toronto. Convenient times too. In some cases the package can be cheaper than the air fare alone (WTF?
Which is why I often finish up at the Casa Marina by default, even if I don't intend to stay there much. There was one week I stayed there last year when I didn't have one drink at the hotel although booze is free. That must be a record. But I only drink beer, and their beer always comes in plastic cups. I prefer that icy bottle dressed up like a penguin, so I usually drink off site.
For a little extra I can check in my GF, she loves it and brings in the Charamicos kids on the weekend. They enjoy the pool, buffet restaurant, organized kids games. The GF makes this great deal with reception (cousins), the youngest ones get in for free.
These kids are so polite, appreciative and well behaved, compared to NA kids, I get a real kick out of seeing them have fun. It's been 6 years for some of them and it's interesting watching them grow up.
I have such a good time down there, sometimes I forget what I'm really there for, LOL.
I posted this on a different site putting it up here too.
For my first trip to Dr and mongering in general I had a blast. Unfortunately I had to go solo because my boys flaked but that didn't take anything away. I flew direct from JFK to POP short 3 HR flight. I stayed at New gardens new side and for the first couple days I was the only one there which was good because I had the pool to myself and a lot of privacy. When I was checking in I met a Haitian dude who showed me around. He brought me my first chica Jissel she wanted 3000 pesos and me being impatient gave it to her. She is a midget sex machine she rode and fucked like an expert with a condom BJ. Walked her back to rumbas and took a nap. Woke up and chi chi (Haitian kid) went to cCassicos at around 11 30 once again being impatient I got the first chica with a fat ass I saw paid 2000 for an st.
Thursday.
Got breakfast at new garden took a swim bought some shitty brown weed from chi chi by this time I was getting tired of him hanging around. I gave him 500 pesos for helping out the previous day and his entrance into Classicos. I got a mani pedi from Wendy and a chica offered me 1000 for a BJ I said fuck it she gave me a message and one of the best BBjs I've ever had I accidentally busted in her eye funny sight she wasn't expecting it gave her an extra 500 for it. Afterward got lunch at Rockys and met another chica we agreed to 1500 and off to new garden only thing now supposedly her baby father supposedly works there and she doesn't want to see him. The side I was in was deserted and no guard was around. (Mistake) after our session she didn't want to leave and then wanted 500 more pesos. I paid her the extra just to leave.
Friday.
The ng breakfast is really good. I decided to hit the beach and regretted my decision I was swarmed by people trying to sell me shit I wasn't interested in the vendors are very aggressive and can get very annoying. Chilled out for a little and got lunch on the way back I ran into a chica we agreed to 2000. She was a good fuck but then started talking about she needs money for school and shit wtf. She asked if she could come back tomorrow morning and I just shrugged (mistake). Took a nap and hit Classicos this time I waited and I realized I was fucking 6's and 7's where the 9's and tens were here the whole time. A dark skinned chica witha fat ass and obviously fake breast approached me by this time I was drunk as fuck we agreed to 2500st. We had a great session the chicks are like professional sex machines. We got high and then she asked me to walk her to Classicos as We were walking we saw a old crackhead looking chica (that moltisanti wants to fuck for 500 pesos) my chica warned me that she was mafia and to stay away from her. Sure enough walking back the crackhead approached and started rubbing on me and I felt her reach into my pocket for my phone I grabbed her wrist twisted it and shoved her walked away.
Saturday.
Sure enough the chica from the beach showed up in the morning. We got breakfast at NG and had a session. Afterward she was just hanging around she started talking about her school fees and her broken cell phone and yea I wanted her to leave she could tell and asked me if I wanted her to leave I said yes and she started crying. I gave her 3000 pesos (felt a little bad). I took a swim and went to the bank to withdraw some money I withdrew 15,000 and walked back to the room. That's when I realized my wallet was missing I must've dropped it or got pick pocketed. I was sick I had 6000 pesos left I called my bro back in the states and asked him to send me some cash through western union. He came through but it wasn't what I would've had with my wallet and bank card. I went to rumbas to watch football. I saw a nice looking brown skinned chica we agreed to 2000 peso and went off to NG. She was a trooper after 3 days of constant fucking it took me some time to nut. I took a swim smoked watched more football and took a nap. Woke up and hit Classicos this time on a mission I was getting a 10. I talked one chica who quoted me 5000 I got her down to 4000 (I would've paid that but I was low on peso because of wallet fiasco). Saw a sexy light skinned chica with beautiful eyes named Giselle she's in the candy shop already. She quoted me 3000 we took off and she had a car she drove us to the hotel but then claimed her friend was sick in the hospital. She dropped me off and I walked my ass to after one. Guess who I find on some dudes lap Gisselle LOL these hoes ain't loyal. I found a 9 named Erica she was exactly what I like big ass big titties sexy eyes. She was the best fuck of my whole trip.
Sunday.
Woke up in the morning and had another session then she went right back to sleep didn't wake up until 2 pm. It was cool I took a swim stocked up on condoms bought more shitty weed and woke her up. We went to NG for lunch and this ordered a thousand peso worth of food (wtf). She wanted to change her clothes so we took a moto concho to her apt where there were 3 scantily clad woman just lounging around giving me hungry looks. Spent time talked and flirted in my extremely limited Spanish. We went back to the room for another session even though I liked this chica I had to cut her loose my pesos want long enough. I called it a day after getting a late dinner.
Monday.
I was tapped out my dick had been working overtime and I just needed rest. I went back to the beach ignored the vendors tried to get something from big DS but it was closed. I bought a presidente and some fish relaxed. I took a swim in the pool and just walked around getting numbers and getting a feel for the town. I was followed by a bunch of little beggar kids gave one of them a dollar and five joined him. Smoked and waited for my jets to play the bears went to rumbas and just chilled at the bar. There was a short chica average ass average breast but she was cool we talked brought her a beer and watched the game. Took her back for 2000 peso she was great like the rest of these professional fuckers I didn't think I had any more Leche but I busted twice. She wanted to spend the night but I wanted the bed to myself.
Tuesday.
My last full day. Had the excellent ng breakfast saw all the chicas doing the walk of Shame or getting breakfast. I swam and chilled. I communicated through watsapp telling chicas I was leaving in the morning and I wanted to see them but I had no more pesos LOL. Two of them bit the line the dark skinned chica from Classicos came we had a session she took a nap but only wanted 100 peso for moto. I packed and spoke to Mignella at NG because checkout was 12 but my flight was at 6 she said I could use the room till 3 which was good enough for me. There was a big tits blonde chica hanging around NG I wanted a cheap nut so I hit her with 1000 and she took it. Average session busted my nut on her cheek (always wanted to bust on a chick face the NY girls not with it LOL).
Weds.
Departure day I had my second free session with Jissel my first Sosua chick was also my last for this trip. Gave her moto money. I packed and took my flight back to the concrete jungle. Sosua was everything you guys said it was. Being a young attractive dude helped with pricing I believe especially with the free sessions. These chicas are hip to websites like this and Facebook they don't want their pics taken I was able to take a few though.
Manizales911
01-09-15, 00:00
We just happen to be lucky.
Air Canada, WestJet, CanJet, SunWing all fly direct from Toronto. Convenient times too. In some cases the package can be cheaper than the air fare alone (WTF?
Which is why I often finish up at the Casa Marina by default, even if I don't intend to stay there much. There was one week I stayed there last year when I didn't have one drink at the hotel although booze is free. That must be a record. But I only drink beer, and their beer always comes in plastic cups. I prefer that icy bottle dressed up like a penguin, so I usually drink off site.
For a little extra I can check in my GF, she loves it and brings in the Charamicos kids on the weekend. They enjoy the pool, buffet restaurant, organized kids games. The GF makes this great deal with reception (cousins), the youngest ones get in for free.
These kids are so polite, appreciative and well behaved, compared to NA kids, I get a real kick out of seeing them have fun. It's been 6 years for some of them and it's interesting watching them grow up.
I have such a good time down there, sometimes I forget what I'm really there for, LOL.I have a wingman that flies in from Toronto and he usually pays less for an all inclusive package than I do just for a flight. Usually WestJet staying at Casa Marina, he then rents a condo because Casa Marina is such a dump according to him, I've never been there.
Tempoecorto
01-09-15, 00:55
I have such a good time down there, sometimes I forget what I'm really there for, LOL.That is very kind and nice of you as well!
We just happen to be lucky.
For a little extra I can check in my GF, she loves it and brings in the Charamicos kids on the weekend. They enjoy the pool, buffet restaurant, organized kids games. The GF makes this great deal with reception (cousins), the youngest ones get in for free.
.It is nice that you think of someone besides yourself.
SavePros321
01-09-15, 04:58
I would admit that the Dominican Girls in the USA.
Are spoiled and rotten but when you do catch one and you start dating her and she is feeling you, At least you know there is no hidden agenda, like a typical 3rd World Girl.
Just my 2 Cents.This is what happens to those broads when they touch the shores of America (see attached photo), LOL!
Do they have chicas there during the day like New Garden did before Lorenzo's wife put a stop to it. In the past enjoyed the talent at NG but no more.
ReadyToGetOnIt
01-09-15, 07:07
Ok fellas, need some advice. Was planning a trip in February, but my #1 spot is booked all month. Yes, I know February is the middle of high season. When this happened in the past, I'd just move my dates around, but I'm pretty locked into some dates this time.
I always planned that if this happened, that my backup spot would be Europa. Only problem is, I don't know how they work. Do they do reservations? Or is better to just walk in? If they do reservations, do they actually honor them?
I know some dudes like E and Grownman who just walk up and grab a room, but I won't be driving. So. Any and all advice is appreciated.
Do they have chicas there during the day like New Garden did before Lorenzo's wife put a stop to it. 24/7 just like 7/11!
Do they have chicas there during the day like New Garden did before Lorenzo's wife put a stop to it. In the past enjoyed the talent at NG but no more.Not really. Approximately 4 months ago I think Wifried kind of kicked them out as they would always being hanging out on the couches in the reception area. Now they sometimes hangout in front, but a lot of girls make the rounds kind of like packs of wolves, walking by looking for guys in and around the entrance to the hotel. Sometimes when they come by I tell them to go to New Garden!
Mr Enternational
01-09-15, 13:21
Ok fellas, need some advice. Was planning a trip in February, but my #1 spot is booked all month. Yes, I know February is the middle of high season. When this happened in the past, I'd just move my dates around, but I'm pretty locked into some dates this time.
I always planned that if this happened, that my backup spot would be Europa. Only problem is, I don't know how they work. Do they do reservations? Or is better to just walk in? If they do reservations, do they actually honor them?
I know some dudes like E and Grownman who just walk up and grab a room, but I won't be driving. So. Any and all advice is appreciated.And besides that, I emailed Europa yesterday because me and my dad are coming down on Feb 6 and now they want a deposit:
NOTE: In order to confirm your reservation, we request an advance payment of 30% of the total balance. The final payment can be completed at the reception the day of arrival. If the advance payment is not received, we cannot hold and guarantee the reservation and it will be subject to availability upon arrival.
For PayPal payments:
Email Address PayPal: info@hotelplazaeuropa.com.
CANCELLATION POLICIES:
A Reservation can be cancelled up to sixty-one (61) days prior to the arrival date and one hundred percent (100%) of the deposit will be refunded, minus the reservation fee of US $60. If cancelled between thirty-one (31) days and sixty (60) days prior to the arrival date, fifty percent (50%) of the deposit will be refunded, less the reserv.
KaneMyers718
01-09-15, 15:15
I'm just wondering will anybody be on ground the 1st week of March the 2nd to the 8th. I was planning a trip around that time. I normally roll with my wingman but it's just me this time. I know it's hard to get bored with pussy around but after day 3 I might be warn out. I wanted to venture out a bit beyond Sousa even with my limited Spanish. Any recommendations? I'm not brave enough to rent a car. If anybody knows any events going on around that time inbox me.
Very interesting development Mr E. Diego is no longer the owner of Europa, an Italian guy owns it now. I believe Europa is still a walk-up hotel but they are being proactive and trying to lock clients in before they arrive. Glad to see you aren't going to have your Dad sleeping in the car in some Sosua alleyway LOL. There are way too many hotel options in Sosua for any hotel to be asking for deposits.
I posted this on a different site putting it up here too.
For my first trip to Dr and mongering in general I had a blast. Unfortunately I had to go solo because my boys flaked but that didn't take anything away. I flew direct from JFK to POP short 3 HR flight. I stayed at New gardens new side and for the first couple days I was the only one there which was good because I had the pool to myself and a lot of privacy. When I was checking in I met a Haitian dude who showed me around. He brought me my first chica Jissel she wanted 3000 pesos and me being impatient gave it to her. She is a midget sex machine she rode and fucked like an expert with a condom BJ. Walked her back to rumbas and took a nap. Woke up and chi chi (Haitian kid) went to cCassicos at around 11 30 once again being impatient I got the first chica with a fat ass I saw paid 2000 for an st.
Thursday.
Got breakfast at new garden took a swim bought some shitty brown weed from chi chi by this time I was getting tired of him hanging around. I gave him 500 pesos for helping out the previous day and his entrance into Classicos. I got a mani pedi from Wendy and a chica offered me 1000 for a BJ I said fuck it she gave me a message and one of the best BBjs I've ever had I accidentally busted in her eye funny sight she wasn't expecting it gave her an extra 500 for it. Afterward got lunch at Rockys and met another chica we agreed to 1500 and off to new garden only thing now supposedly her baby father supposedly works there and she doesn't want to see him. The side I was in was deserted and no guard was around. (Mistake) after our session she didn't want to leave and then wanted 500 more pesos. I paid her the extra just to leave.
Friday.
The ng breakfast is really good. I decided to hit the beach and regretted my decision I was swarmed by people trying to sell me shit I wasn't interested in the vendors are very aggressive and can get very annoying. Chilled out for a little and got lunch on the way back I ran into a chica we agreed to 2000. She was a good fuck but then started talking about she needs money for school and shit wtf. She asked if she could come back tomorrow morning and I just shrugged (mistake). Took a nap and hit Classicos this time I waited and I realized I was fucking 6's and 7's where the 9's and tens were here the whole time. A dark skinned chica witha fat ass and obviously fake breast approached me by this time I was drunk as fuck we agreed to 2500st. We had a great session the chicks are like professional sex machines. We got high and then she asked me to walk her to Classicos as We were walking we saw a old crackhead looking chica (that moltisanti wants to fuck for 500 pesos) my chica warned me that she was mafia and to stay away from her. Sure enough walking back the crackhead approached and started rubbing on me and I felt her reach into my pocket for my phone I grabbed her wrist twisted it and shoved her walked away.
Saturday.
Sure enough the chica from the beach showed up in the morning. We got breakfast at NG and had a session. Afterward she was just hanging around she started talking about her school fees and her broken cell phone and yea I wanted her to leave she could tell and asked me if I wanted her to leave I said yes and she started crying. I gave her 3000 pesos (felt a little bad). I took a swim and went to the bank to withdraw some money I withdrew 15,000 and walked back to the room. That's when I realized my wallet was missing I must've dropped it or got pick pocketed. I was sick I had 6000 pesos left I called my bro back in the states and asked him to send me some cash through western union. He came through but it wasn't what I would've had with my wallet and bank card. I went to rumbas to watch football. I saw a nice looking brown skinned chica we agreed to 2000 peso and went off to NG. She was a trooper after 3 days of constant fucking it took me some time to nut. I took a swim smoked watched more football and took a nap. Woke up and hit Classicos this time on a mission I was getting a 10. I talked one chica who quoted me 5000 I got her down to 4000 (I would've paid that but I was low on peso because of wallet fiasco). Saw a sexy light skinned chica with beautiful eyes named Giselle she's in the candy shop already. She quoted me 3000 we took off and she had a car she drove us to the hotel but then claimed her friend was sick in the hospital. She dropped me off and I walked my ass to after one. Guess who I find on some dudes lap Gisselle LOL these hoes ain't loyal. I found a 9 named Erica she was exactly what I like big ass big titties sexy eyes. She was the best fuck of my whole trip.
Sunday.
Woke up in the morning and had another session then she went right back to sleep didn't wake up until 2 pm. It was cool I took a swim stocked up on condoms bought more shitty weed and woke her up. We went to NG for lunch and this ordered a thousand peso worth of food (wtf). She wanted to change her clothes so we took a moto concho to her apt where there were 3 scantily clad woman just lounging around giving me hungry looks. Spent time talked and flirted in my extremely limited Spanish. We went back to the room for another session even though I liked this chica I had to cut her loose my pesos want long enough. I called it a day after getting a late dinner.
Monday.
I was tapped out my dick had been working overtime and I just needed rest. I went back to the beach ignored the vendors tried to get something from big DS but it was closed. I bought a presidente and some fish relaxed. I took a swim in the pool and just walked around getting numbers and getting a feel for the town. I was followed by a bunch of little beggar kids gave one of them a dollar and five joined him. Smoked and waited for my jets to play the bears went to rumbas and just chilled at the bar. There was a short chica average ass average breast but she was cool we talked brought her a beer and watched the game. Took her back for 2000 peso she was great like the rest of these professional fuckers I didn't think I had any more Leche but I busted twice. She wanted to spend the night but I wanted the bed to myself.
Tuesday.
My last full day. Had the excellent ng breakfast saw all the chicas doing the walk of Shame or getting breakfast. I swam and chilled. I communicated through watsapp telling chicas I was leaving in the morning and I wanted to see them but I had no more pesos LOL. Two of them bit the line the dark skinned chica from Classicos came we had a session she took a nap but only wanted 100 peso for moto. I packed and spoke to Mignella at NG because checkout was 12 but my flight was at 6 she said I could use the room till 3 which was good enough for me. There was a big tits blonde chica hanging around NG I wanted a cheap nut so I hit her with 1000 and she took it. Average session busted my nut on her cheek (always wanted to bust on a chick face the NY girls not with it LOL).
Weds.
Departure day I had my second free session with Jissel my first Sosua chick was also my last for this trip. Gave her moto money. I packed and took my flight back to the concrete jungle. Sosua was everything you guys said it was. Being a young attractive dude helped with pricing I believe especially with the free sessions. These chicas are hip to websites like this and Facebook they don't want their pics taken I was able to take a few though.This guy seems to have had only good sessions in Sosua of all places. I'm in the US flogging my donkey right now. Reading posts like this makes me want to hop on a flight to DR pronto.
This guy seems to have had only good sessions in Sosua of all places. I'm in the US flogging my donkey right now. Reading posts like this makes me want to hop on a flight to DR pronto.Yes, I really enjoyed his reporting but he obviously didn't spend any time reading the forum before his trip. He made every rookie mistake in the book, but now he knows. Buying dirt weed, getting pick pocketed and spending 6 k-8 k a day for ass. He will be a wiser traveler next time. Luckily he didn't get hurt or wind up in a Dominican jail.
Parkinsons
01-09-15, 16:50
This guy seems to have had only good sessions in Sosua of all places. I'm in the US flogging my donkey right now. Reading posts like this makes me want to hop on a flight to DR pronto.Yeah but are you a "young attractive guy" like him?
I want to know how he could withdraw 15,000 from an ATM though.
The max was 10,000. I withdrew 10 and then another 5.
Manizales911
01-09-15, 18:45
Yeah but are you a "young attractive guy" like him?
I want to know how he could withdraw 15,000 from an ATM though.Easy. Your daily limit is set by your USA Bank, not the ATM, the ATM controls how much money per transaction you can withdraw. My bank, Schwab, allows me to take $4,000. USD per day, the ATM that I use allows 10,000 pesos per transaction. Yesterday I withdrew 30,000. Pesos in three transactions. Keep in mind that the ATM is charging you a fee for every transaction, this ATM charges 175 pesos so I was charged a total of 525 pesos to withdraw the 30,000 but Schwab reimburses me for ALL ATM fees and does not charge a foreign transaction fee which most USA Banks charge anywhere between 1 and 3 %. Schwab is the best if you travel a lot.
Charles Pooter
01-09-15, 18:49
I'm just wondering will anybody be on ground the 1st week of March the 2nd to the 8th. I was planning a trip around that time. I normally roll with my wingman but it's just me this time. I know it's hard to get bored with pussy around but after day 3 I might be warn out. I wanted to venture out a bit beyond Sousa even with my limited Spanish. Any recommendations? I'm not brave enough to rent a car. If anybody knows any events going on around that time inbox me.This is your fourth trip to Sosua, right? To be honest, you should be way past such questions by now. You should already know that:
(1) There are always mongers around to chat with and, if you get on well, to do things with. Post on here the day before you arrive. If you have paid a subscription here you can communicate by PM.
(2) You are wise not to rent a car if you are not comfortable with doing so, but it is very cheap, easy and safe to visit neighboring towns and villages such as Puerto Plata, Cabarete, Montellano, Gaspar Hernandez, etc. , by public transport. And further afield if you want a whole day out, to Santiago or Rio San Juan. I was doing all that, and more, by my second trip and I was a decrepit old fart on a tight budget and minimal Spanish.
But don't fall into the trap of taking on a Dominican "guide" or using private taxis a lot or they will soon relieve you of most of your holiday cash.
I am guessing you will be better off and achieve more without your wingman. He seems to have been cramping your style.
Easy. Your daily limit is set by your USA Bank, not the ATM, the ATM controls how much money per transaction you can withdraw. My bank, Schwab, allows me to take $4,000. USD per day, the ATM that I use allows 10,000 pesos per transaction. Yesterday I withdrew 30,000. Pesos in three transactions. Keep in mind that the ATM is charging you a fee for every transaction, this ATM charges 175 pesos so I was charged a total of 525 pesos to withdraw the 30,000 but Schwab reimburses me for ALL ATM fees and does not charge a foreign transaction fee which most USA Banks charge anywhere between 1 and 3 %. Schwab is the best if you travel a lot.I have had my Charles Schwab account since last April. I've made plenty of 30000 to 36000 peso ATM transactions (10000 or 12000 pesos each transaction). All fees reimbursed at the end of the month. The most I have withdrawn at one time was 4 transactions of 10000 pesos. I've never tested to see what my limit would be with my bank. But I do know the ATM may have a limit in how much a customer can withdraw. Like only 5000 pesos max.
Anybody coming down Super Bowl week, I suggest they bring enough cash to exchange with, and not rely mostly on using an ATM. I'm sure the machines will adjust or be adjusted to limit how much can be withdrawn, due to the heavy volume of users during that time. You don't want to end up short on funds because you relied on getting cash from an ATM.
Also, I used Schwab to make a wire transfer to purchase something in the DR. Schwab allows you to link your other financial institutions to your Schwab account. That way you can transfer funds from those linked accounts into your Schwab account, and use only your Schwab Visa debit card to make withdrawals as needed.
I posted this on a different site putting it up here too.
For my first trip to Dr and mongering in general I had a blast. Unfortunately I had to go solo because my boys flaked but that didn't take anything away. I flew direct from JFK to POP
Weds.
Departure day I had my second free session with Jissel my first Sosua chick was also my last for this trip. Gave her moto money. I packed and took my flight back to the concrete jungle. Sosua was everything you guys said it was. Being a young attractive dude helped with pricing I believe especially with the free sessions. These chicas are hip to websites like this and Facebook they don't want their pics taken I was able to take a few though.Awe young pimpin your trip report was good but your homework was terrible. You over pay on pussy, walking around with you wallet, hanging with crabs, spend extra on breakfest, I can understand the weed, but dam! Your homework suck. You have a ***** 3000 pesos because you felt sorry. She. They played you like a phuzkin piano. You don't know how to say no. The read that on you and you paid dearly. You say you are young and good looking. Since I been in Sosua I never been quoted over 3000 peso but hey I am average. I am glad the chicas showed you love at the end those were your riders. I no losing your money killed your spirit but you recovered well. More homework please! Why didn't you just ask for help.
I have had my Charles Schwab account since last April. I've made plenty of 30000 to 36000 peso ATM transactions (10000 or 12000 pesos each transaction). All fees reimbursed at the end of the month.E-Trade refunds ALL ATM fees immediately. I have both.
The young fella went lone wolf which takes balls. He made mistakes but did not let them stop him from having a great time. . I am sure he learned a great deal, he paid top dollar but was happy with his sessions. He even got a couple of freebies. You can not compare serious mongers with a first time newbie. Part of the fun is learning from your mistakes. Was the weed he smoked any good. I have always been afraid to buy the local product.
Awe young pimpin your trip report was good but your homework was terrible. You over pay on pussy, walking around with you wallet, hanging with crabs, spend extra on breakfest, I can understand the weed, but dam! Your homework suck. You have a ***** 3000 pesos because you felt sorry. She. They played you like a phuzkin piano. You don't know how to say no. The read that on you and you paid dearly. You say you are young and good looking. Since I been in Sosua I never been quoted over 3000 peso but hey I am average. I am glad the chicas showed you love at the end those were your riders. I no losing your money killed your spirit but you recovered well. More homework please! Why didn't you just ask for help.
Ok fellas, need some advice. Was planning a trip in February, but my #1 spot is booked all month. Yes, I know February is the middle of high season. When this happened in the past, I'd just move my dates around, but I'm pretty locked into some dates this time.
I always planned that if this happened, that my backup spot would be Europa. Only problem is, I don't know how they work. Do they do reservations? Or is better to just walk in? If they do reservations, do they actually honor them?
I know some dudes like E and Grownman who just walk up and grab a room, but I won't be driving. So. Any and all advice is appreciated.Some of the best times I've had were when I didn't have a room booked and just winged it.
Wherever you are, there's always a room to be had somewhere. You can enlist the help of a local as long as you avoid the pimps and scammers.
Even the fully booked hotels usually have an overflow arrangement with others in the area. They'll be happy to pass along your business to friends.
I've gone through Europe without the languages this way and met some memorable people and situations. Just go!
(The only one time it failed me was in Great Falls MT, during an airline strike. There were no rooms to be had anywhere, so I was in a local pub chatting up the waitress. Were getting along ok and and I offered to take her home after work. She laughed and said, you don't have a room do you? Seems she'd been propositioned all night by stranded flyers, but her boyfriend was picking her up.
Couldn't even find a hooker. Spent that night back at the airport on a hard bench).
Yeah but are you a "young attractive guy" like him?If I were young and attractive I would have women paying me for sex and would not be buffing my banana so much.
The young fella went lone wolf which takes balls. He made mistakes but did not let them stop him from having a great time. . I am sure he learned a great deal, he paid top dollar but was happy with his sessions. He even got a couple of freebies. You can not compare serious mongers with a first time newbie. Part of the fun is learning from your mistakes. Was the weed he smoked any good. I have always been afraid to buy the local product.Newbie Reports are the life blood of the board. Mistakes, missteps, misspending and all. Takes us all back to our rookie days.
We should be gentle in our criticism, otherwise folks won't post their mistakes, only successes.
Manizales911
01-10-15, 17:11
The young fella went lone wolf which takes balls. He made mistakes but did not let them stop him from having a great time. . I am sure he learned a great deal, he paid top dollar but was happy with his sessions. He even got a couple of freebies. You can not compare serious mongers with a first time newbie. Part of the fun is learning from your mistakes. Was the weed he smoked any good. I have always been afraid to buy the local product.I agree 100 percent.
The young fella went lone wolf which takes balls. He made mistakes but did not let them stop him from having a great time. . I am sure he learned a great deal, he paid top dollar but was happy with his sessions. He even got a couple of freebies. You can not compare serious mongers with a first time newbie. Part of the fun is learning from your mistakes. Was the weed he smoked any good. I have always been afraid to buy the local product.And here I thought I was being nice. Steel is not new to this game. He's mongered in Brazil and the DR Sosua prior to this day. He's given his input and advice in other forms as well as this one so he knows the value of information on these boards. I was waiting to see if my man Sigmund Freud was going to expose it. He was in Sosua back September so he says. Hmmmm Steel are you trying to run game on us. He was the only one in the hotel makes me question this trip report. I could be mistaken and he is giving his trip report from September if that's the case I stand corrected and apologize.
Ok fellas, need some advice. Was planning a trip in February, but my #1 spot is booked all month. Yes, I know February is the middle of high season. When this happened in the past, I'd just move my dates around, but I'm pretty locked into some dates this time.
I always planned that if this happened, that my backup spot would be Europa. Only problem is, I don't know how they work. Do they do reservations? Or is better to just walk in? If they do reservations, do they actually honor them?
I know some dudes like E and Grownman who just walk up and grab a room, but I won't be driving. So. Any and all advice is appreciated.What I love about the DR is just walking up and getting my room. I have only experienced one time during very high season Europa did not come through. There were plenty of other hotels if I wanted to pay more. I don't think you are going to have a problem. However whatever room you pick make sure that room is available for you during your whole duration if you like it. Otherwise you will be playing musical hotels. They honor reservations first
I'm a complete newbie visiting Sosua for the first time for my first P4P experience in a few days. I have read posts going back over a year and gained much valuable information from the contributors of this forum. Thank you, guys. However, I had a serious case of information overload. Pros and cons, what to do and what not to do, all that knowledge jumble up together in my head. In the end, the only way to experience Sosua is to go there. And so I scrounged up the little vacation time that I had and flying in very soon for a short period of time. I intend to hit the ground running as to enjoy the most of the time I am there. Landing with boxful of condoms and I don't intend to bring back any.
I'm of Asian heritage. I'm pretty frugal and good at sticking with a budget. Also, I don't really need to drink to have a good time. So much of my budget can be directed to getting the girls. The BBQ in Sosua sounds delicious though. (BigD's or rocky's).
I do intend to enjoy as many of Sosua's delights as possible, morning to night. If 1000-1500 or 2000 pesos for ST, 2000 or more for LT is what you guys say is the going rate, I can stick to it. I learned from you guys to state what I am willing to pay first, negotiate and discuss everything upfront. Safer for a newbie like me that way.
I speak no real Spanish (which I understand could prevent me from enjoying Sosua to the fullest) but do intend to study the basic before I get there. Google Translate is going with me.
I am humbled by the experience of the members of this forum. Right now, I'm probably over-confident because I am excited to finally be in Sosua for real. I am very sure that I will most definitively make many mistakes on this trip. The only thing I can do is turn up the frequency and try not to make the same mistake twice. Any tips or thoughts will be greatly valued by me as specially with the matter of getting the girls. Even tough love will be very welcomed at this point.
See you in Sosua. I'll post what I will find out there.
Charles Pooter
01-11-15, 16:54
I'm a complete newbie visiting Sosua for the first time for my first P4P experience in a few days. I have read posts going back over a year and gained much valuable information from the contributors of this forum ... etcLooks like you are doing all the right preparation and have an excellent attitude. You should have a great trip.
Keep on with your Spanish up to the day you fly. Every little helps. I advise you to concentrate on the numerals, including hundreds and thousands. This is where most newbies come unstuck.
You do not say for how long you are there. (Tip: don't tell chicas and other locals which day you are leaving). Have you decided on a hotel? No real need, you can find one when you arrive, assuming you arrive in daylight.
And here I thought I was being nice. Steel is not new to this game. He's mongered in Brazil and the DR Sosua prior to this day. He's given his input and advice in other forms as well as this one so he knows the value of information on these boards. I was waiting to see if my man Sigmund Freud was going to expose it. He was in Sosua back September so he says. Hmmmm Steel are you trying to run game on us. He was the only one in the hotel makes me question this trip report. I could be mistaken and he is giving his trip report from September if that's the case I stand corrected and apologize.LOL yall are funny. Indeed it was my trip report from September. I stayed at new gardens newest side I was the only one there besides the guard and cleaning lady for the first 5 days of my trip. If there were other guests staying in that side I didn't see them. Yep my mongering experience before this took place in Cancun Mexico it wasn't much a taxi took me to a strip club / brothel. I also met a girl in a bar on the strip there I thought I successfully ran game on her when she agreed to come to my hotel then she hit me with "how much you offer". LOL before my September trip I was pretty inexperienced. Anyway ill be returning for Superbowl weekend. I know its going to be packed but anything else I need to know about going there for Superbowl?
I'm a complete newbie visiting Sosua for the first time for my first P4P experience in a few days. I have read posts going back over a year and gained much valuable information from the contributors of this forum. Thank you, guys. However, I had a serious case of information overload. Pros and cons, what to do and what not to do, all that knowledge jumble up together in my head. In the end, the only way to experience Sosua is to go there. And so I scrounged up the little vacation time that I had and flying in very soon for a short period of time. I intend to hit the ground running as to enjoy the most of the time I am there. Landing with boxful of condoms and I don't intend to bring back any.
I'm of Asian heritage. I'm pretty frugal and good at sticking with a budget. Also, I don't really need to drink to have a good time. So much of my budget can be directed to getting the girls. The BBQ in Sosua sounds delicious though. (BigD's or rocky's).
I do intend to enjoy as many of Sosua's delights as possible, morning to night. If 1000-1500 or 2000 pesos for ST, 2000 or more for LT is what you guys say is the going rate, I can stick to it. I learned from you guys to state what I am willing to pay first, negotiate and discuss everything upfront. Safer for a newbie like me that way.
I speak no real Spanish (which I understand could prevent me from enjoying Sosua to the fullest) but do intend to study the basic before I get there. Google Translate is going with me.
I am humbled by the experience of the members of this forum. Right now, I'm probably over-confident because I am excited to finally be in Sosua for real. I am very sure that I will most definitively make many mistakes on this trip. The only thing I can do is turn up the frequency and try not to make the same mistake twice. Any tips or thoughts will be greatly valued by me as specially with the matter of getting the girls. Even tough love will be very welcomed at this point.
See you in Sosua. I'll post what I will find out there.This'll be my first Sosua Super Bowl as well and I keep reading that during the Super Bowl the town is filled with chicas who jack up their prices because of the demand.
If I can find any ST under 2000 I'll be happy.
Also I don't expect to find any LT / TLN as the chicas will try to generate as high a turnover as possible (profits) and will be watching the clock and trying to hurry out of the room.
I'm a complete newbie visiting Sosua for the first time for my first P4P experience in a few days. I have read posts going back over a year and gained much valuable information from the contributors of this forum. Thank you, guys. However, I had a serious case of information overload. Pros and cons, what to do and what not to do, all that knowledge jumble up together in my head. In the end, the only way to experience Sosua is to go there. This is correct. However just relax and remember that this is a vacation, not a combat zone posting. Newbies tend to get a bit overexcited and for that reason they make some poor decisions. It is easy to say that one will stick to prices, etc. But when some lovely young thing is rubbing your thigh, squeezing your crotch, and murmuring into your ear, it can be difficult to say no if you are not experienced in that situation. It is best to back off a bit, tell them you never pay for sex, tell them you are getting married next month, tell them you are married, so make them work for your business.
Try to be the consumer, not the consumed.
Even so it can be hit and miss, especially because you will be a target for the old hands spotting a newbie in town.
However, just lie back and enjoy it, relax, and you will most likely have a really great time. Just lower your expectations a bit and you may be pleasantly surprised to the upside.
Parkinsons
01-11-15, 22:15
I'm of Asian heritage. I'm pretty frugal.Redundant!!
Haha enjoy your trip man. Yeah all the information here can be overwhelming as well as contradictory at the same time. I'm surprised you didn't get discouraged and booked a trip to Colombia or Brazil instead.
Since you mentioned BBQ, I'll give some input on food. You'll find that Dominicans eat very little vegetables. Unless you're staying at all-inclusive (which I don't recommend) or a hotel with a nicer restaurant, the local menus are pretty much limited to lettuce and tomatoes salads. Find time to hit the grocery store for some fruits and fiber-rich foods.
ForceSteeler
01-12-15, 00:40
This'll be my first Sosua Super Bowl as well and I keep reading that during the Super Bowl the town is filled with chicas who jack up their prices because of the demand.
If I can find any ST under 2000 I'll be happy.
Also I don't expect to find any LT / TLN as the chicas will try to generate as high a turnover as possible (profits) and will be watching the clock and trying to hurry out of the room.You can find girls for 2000, but around Super Bowl weekend, don't expect any hot ones (The 9's and the 10's). My Friend went To DR last Year for Super Bowl weekend and the girls were quoting $100-$150 US. Or 6000-7000 pesos. And if you want Long term you can.
Forget about it. A lot of these girls will rush you so they can go back to the strip to make more money. Sorry for me I like to go to Sosua around Low Season. I like when these puta are hungry for customers and they will gladly take 1500 pesos. Super Bowl Weekend is the.
Worst. Expect the Chica Price to be expensive and Rush Service. But the plus side is that your going to see the best of the best that weekend. All the really attractive Dominican girls will be in town, because they know around super bowl weekend alot of guys will be in.
Town so that's a good change they will make alot of money.
You can find girls for 2000, but around Super Bowl weekend, don't expect any hot ones (The 9's and the 10's). My Friend went To DR last Year for Super Bowl weekend and the girls were quoting $100-$150 US. Or 6000-7000 pesos. And if you want Long term you can.
Forget about it. A lot of these girls will rush you so they can go back to the strip to make more money. Sorry for me I like to go to Sosua around Low Season. I like when these puta are hungry for customers and they will gladly take 1500 pesos. Super Bowl Weekend is the.
Worst. Expect the Chica Price to be expensive and Rush Service. But the plus side is that your going to see the best of the best that weekend. All the really attractive Dominican girls will be in town, because they know around super bowl weekend alot of guys will be in.
Town so that's a good change they will make alot of money.What is the point of seeing nice looking chicas when they are over charging and the service will suck. Fuck just looking, I want a good fuck.
ForceSteeler
01-12-15, 05:30
What is the point of seeing nice looking chicas when they are over charging and the service will suck. Fuck just looking, I want a good fuck.Well its all supply and demand. They can demand that price because there is going to be alot guys in town. All Weekend millionaires are going to be in town during Super Bowl weekend, So the Chicas can jack the price up and the performance is going to be horrible.
Don't count on GFE. Your not going to get it that weekend. Again not to sound like a broken record, The Plus side to Super Bowl weekend is that your going to see nothing but Stunnas, The 9's and Dimes are going to come out heavy that weekend. But I'm a Veteran.
What's the point of good looks when your going to pay $150 Dollars for a Mechanical Nut. If I'm going to pay $100-$150 I might as well stay in the US and just hit up backpage. Its not worth spending the flight or hotel. The whole point on traveling to DR is for the cheap sex and the GFE experience. Well I can only speak for myself. The only way place overseas, I will pay $100 for a nut is Brazil. I know I'm going to get pornstar sex with a Brazilian chick. These Dominican girls its a hit or miss, Most of them are lazy and only care.
About the leche.
I have never seen Souza with more guys then girls. Super bowl must bring out the ballers. More money then brains. I would not change my flow even if I had to import talent.
Well its all supply and demand. They can demand that price because there is going to be alot guys in town. All Weekend millionaires are going to be in town during Super Bowl weekend, So the Chicas can jack the price up and the performance is going to be horrible.
Don't count on GFE. Your not going to get it that weekend. Again not to sound like a broken record, The Plus side to Super Bowl weekend is that your going to see nothing but Stunnas, The 9's and Dimes are going to come out heavy that weekend. But I'm a Veteran.
What's the point of good looks when your going to pay $150 Dollars for a Mechanical Nut. If I'm going to pay $100-$150 I might as well stay in the US and just hit up backpage. Its not worth spending the flight or hotel. The whole point on traveling to DR is for the.
Cheap Sex and the GFE experience. Well I can only speak for myself. The only way place overseas, I will pay $100 for a nut is Brazil. I know I'm going to get pornstar sex with a Brazilian chick. These Dominican girls its a hit or miss, Most of them are lazy and only care.
About the leche.Superbowl weekend is for sport-fucking and it's exactly what the guys in town will be looking for.
I plan to leave town before that weekend so I don't have too observe the spectacle of the sport-fuckers and the Chicas in action.
The best times in Sosua are the slow times.
This is correct. However just relax and remember that this is a vacation, not a combat zone posting. Newbies tend to get a bit overexcited and for that reason they make some poor decisions. It is easy to say that one will stick to prices, etc. But when some lovely young thing is rubbing your thigh, squeezing your crotch, and murmuring into your ear, it can be difficult to say no if you are not experienced in that situation. It is best to back off a bit, tell them you never pay for sex, tell them you are getting married next month, tell them you are married, so make them work for your business.
Try to be the consumer, not the consumed.
Even so it can be hit and miss, especially because you will be a target for the old hands spotting a newbie in town.
However, just lie back and enjoy it, relax, and you will most likely have a really great time. Just lower your expectations a bit and you may be pleasantly surprised to the upside."Try to be the consumer, not the consumed. " Love it. I think I'll go with the "I have a GF back home" excuse. Thank you. Yes, some women just have a way of dropping a man's defenses, pants and his wallet, indeed. I am fully aware I will make mistakes. It will definitely suck when it happens. It will suck even more if I know I did everything right and still got hit with a dud. If I screw the whole trip up and end up sitting on the beach, eating BBQ and with a beer or two for a couple of days, it will still be a vacation worth going. As for sticking with prices. I have seen the scorn (tough love) you guys give newbies when they overpay in this forum. Some extra motivation to be on firm price and budget, huh? .
Redundant!
Haha enjoy your trip man. Yeah all the information here can be overwhelming as well as contradictory at the same time. I'm surprised you didn't get discouraged and booked a trip to Colombia or Brazil instead.
Find time to hit the grocery store for some fruits and fiber-rich foods.Hahaha You are quite right on the money on that one. I did actually read quite a bit about Brazil thanks of the guys posting in that forum. Ah the allure of Brazil! They were several reasons I passed on Brazil for my first p4 p trip. Longer flight time, no exposure to portuguese, cost and so on. For strange reason, Termas (which the forum touches on the most) didn't really sound appealing to me while German FKKs sound kinda fun. Weird. The leg work involved exploring other options in Brazil (prives, etc) seem to be better reserved for a longer trip than I can arrange right now. Brazil will be probably be my next trip as I want to go before the 2016 Olympics monkey business starts. The Philippines seems fun as well.
Keep on with your Spanish up to the day you fly. Every little helps. I advise you to concentrate on the numerals, including hundreds and thousands. This is where most newbies come unstuck. You do not say for how long you are there. (Tip: don't tell chicas and other locals which day you are leaving). Have you decided on a hotel? No real need, you can find one when you arrive, assuming you arrive in daylight.Thank you for the advice on studying up my Spanish. I arranged my stay at Rocky's. Partly for economic reasons as I do not know how this first trip will pan out for me, but also I figure I can't go wrong being in the center of it all location wise. Most of the posts in Sosua forum talk of the Rocky's fondly as well.
WorldTraveler3
01-12-15, 18:07
Superbowl weekend is for sport-fucking and it's exactly what the guys in town will be looking for.
I plan to leave town before that weekend so I don't have too observe the spectacle of the sport-fuckers and the Chicas in action.
The best times in Sosua are the slow times.That why I will be in town a few weeks after the Superbowl I avoid all holidays. I come either before or after it works out because for the most part those people can only come when their low tier government jobs are closed such as holidays and a random weekend that they saved up for sport fucking just to boring now.
ForceSteeler
01-12-15, 18:25
Superbowl weekend is for sport-fucking and it's exactly what the guys in town will be looking for.
I plan to leave town before that weekend so I don't have too observe the spectacle of the sport-fuckers and the Chicas in action.
The best times in Sosua are the slow times.Yeah if your a sport fucker and don't mind the inflated price then its not all that bad. Superbowl weekend is like Christmas for Putas. The baddest Dominican girls from all over the island are going to come to Sosua. So expect some high quality stunners. Nothing but 10's.
I prefer the slow times like you. I'm cheap and don't want to spend no more than 2,000 pesos on a puta.
Yeah if your a sport fucker and don't mind the inflated price then its not all that bad. Superbowl weekend is like Christmas for Putas. The baddest Dominican girls from all over the island are going to come to Sosua. So expect some high quality stunners. Nothing but 10's.
I prefer the slow times like you. I'm cheap and don't want to spend no more than 2,000 pesos on a puta.2,000 Pesos on a Puta is lot. If your cheap and can speak some Spanish you should be able to better than that.
SavePros321
01-12-15, 20:05
That why I will be in town a few weeks after the Superbowl I avoid all holidays. I come either before or after it works out because for the most part those people can only come when their low tier government jobs are closed such as holidays and a random weekend that they saved up for sport fucking just to boring now.I used to be the same way until last year (avoiding holidays due to gringo influx), but my current job makes traveling during holidays very attractive. I work a 9/80 schedule, so that combined with a national holiday I can get a 7 or 8 day trip using only 3 or 4 vacation days. That gives me the flexibly to travel multiple times during the year as opposed to burning a full week or two without combining them with holidays.
I don't work for the Gubbermint though, lol.
What's the cover charge at Club X and how does it compare to Classico?
Last night was crazy quiet in Sosa. Is Sunday the most quiet day here?
I was at Classico and it just died at about 2 am Will there be more people there on Mondays? Tuesdays?
That why I will be in town a few weeks after the Superbowl I avoid all holidays. I come either before or after it works out because for the most part those people can only come when their low tier government jobs are closed such as holidays and a random weekend that they saved up for sport fucking just to boring now.Why is it on every forum you sound like a hater? If someone wants to go on a sports fucking binge how does it effect you? Low tier government jobs.
That why I will be in town a few weeks after the Superbowl I avoid all holidays. I come either before or after it works out because for the most part those people can only come when their low tier government jobs are closed such as holidays and a random weekend that they saved up for sport fucking just to boring now.I am with you. After spending Easter, July 4, Labor day, New Years in the DR last year and hearing about Super Bowl; I am done with going on holidays and special events. I like my chicas hungry.
Grown man's quick guide for the DR.
Touts: these guys try to play middleman in between you and your chica because they speak English and Spanish. They get a kickback from the Chica when they help the Chica make a deal with you. And they expect you to give them a tip for helping you secure your chica. They are opportunists only interested in how fast they can get or bum off you as quick as possible. They look for guys who are alone or groups that are not confident in communication. Sometimes they are useful to translate to / for a Chica that you just don't underdstand. If you have to use them give them 40 to 100 pesos and keep it moving. Let them know if you need help you will come to them otherwise you're good. Letting them hang with you is foolish because they are grimy and you will be buying drinks and hearing sob stories for money. Never open your wallet in front of them.
Sales people: these people will sell you anything that you might look at. If you glance in their direction to look at their product it's a sign of weakness and they will push hard to get whatever money they can out of you. No thank you is polite but it does not help. When these people are talking to you just pretend like they don't exist. We consider this rude but that's not how they consider it. Do not give them Eye contact. If all else fails us tell them you are only here to buy pussy that's it.
Beggars: they have no conscience. A lot of them start off with a handshake and / or a polite greeting. Once they have eye contact with you they set in for the kill of your Dinero. Keep walking pretend like they don't exist. They are skilled to look for any signs of weakness. Some may even get you to commit you to give them something for tomorrow. They make sounds to grab you attention like. Hey my friend. Or hola my brother.
Service providers: this includes cabdrivers barbers manicurist massages ect. Always ask how much first. Make them repeat the price. Never agree to the initial price everything is based on bargaining.
Chicas: know how much you are going to spend for a Chica and put that money on you securely. Never let her lead you make her walk behind you. This is a psychological move of who's in control. Never offer her the whole amout. Let 300 to 500 pesos be a tip and explained it to her she gets it only if she's good and everything goes accordingly. Example: you willing to give 2500. Tell her 2000 and a big tip if she's good. If she will not compromise keep walking she's playing you / and you probably saved yourself a headache. Let her know that's all the money you have left. Showing her more money is inviting her to beg. Don't be afraid to sit her in the lobby and record the amount expectations and the time on your phone before she goes in your room. Any signs from her of negativity end the conversation no questions. If you really like her she'll be primed for the next day and she'll know you mean business.
WorldTraveler3
01-13-15, 00:58
Why is it on every forum you sound like a hater? If someone wants to go on a sports fucking binge how does it effect you? Low tier government jobs.You tell me. Well if someone wants to go on a sport fucking I don't care. If the majority of the male in town are then it would be because that effects the attitude of the chicas you interact with the knowing they make more money by rushing and getting back out there in the club. If people aren't sport fucking then the girl may not get picked again but if everybody just trying to but up numbers its a guarantee she will and she knows it. The over all vibe at those times is just something I don't care for. Bus driver correction officer.
Do the chicas that flood Sosua for Super Bowl Weekend leave immediately or is Monday, Tuesday, etc. pretty good in chica choices too?
The best scenario is the flood of NYC dudes leave on Monday but many of the chicas hang around and the ratio is absolutely lopsided in the favor of dudes who haven't left yet.
Maybe then prices can start to fall.
ForceSteeler
01-13-15, 01:19
Do the chicas that flood Sosua for Super Bowl Weekend leave immediately or is Monday, Tuesday, etc. Pretty good in chica choices too?
The best scenario is the flood of NYC dudes leaves on Monday but many of the chicas hang around and the ratio is absolutely lopsided in the favor of dudes who haven't left yet.
Maybe then prices can start to fall.Most of them come around Thursday and leave around Sunday Night or Monday Morning. I doubt they will stick around, Mondays-Wednesday is usually slow. Things don't pick up until Thursday. Thursday-Saturday is good.
SavePros321
01-13-15, 02:52
Grown man's quick guide for the DR.
Good post GrownMan.
Grown man's quick guide for the DR..So being the guider of those who venture to DR I solicit your advice in a double booking problem I have.
I inadvertently notified two of my DC Chicas, one a Haitian and the other a Dominican of my arrival on the 20th of this month. Major screw up on my part. Unfortunately both of these Chicas which I have a kind of "novio" history with think I'm only coming to see them which is never the case. If the Haitian knew I was seeing someone else, well she'd be gone in a minute whereas the Dominican might be more accepting. These Chicas are semi-pros as they meet guys via the Internet versus on the Strip. I'm in Sosua for 8 days and would like too see both of them without them knowing, and being under the illusion I'm only there to see them besides some sport fucking on the side. Any thoughts on this?
Having girls who you know are on point is a good thing. Tell one your schedule has changed. Shit happens, Remember they probably have the same problem. When of their clients are in town at the same time. I love the GF illusion but at the end of the day your cash is boss. I have 2 none pro sisters I bang when I am in town. They no I have been with both but never bring it up. Sex with them is some of the best I get on my trips.
So being the guider of those who venture to DR I solicit your advice in a double booking problem I have.
I inadvertently notified two of my DC Chicas, one a Haitian and the other a Dominican of my arrival on the 20th of this month. Major screw up on my part. Unfortunately both of these Chicas which I have a kind of "novio" history with think I'm only coming to see them which is never the case. If the Haitian knew I was seeing someone else, well she'd be gone in a minute whereas the Dominican might be more accepting. These Chicas are semi-pros as they meet guys via the Internet versus on the Strip. I'm in Sosua for 8 days and would like too see both of them without them knowing, and being under the illusion I'm only there to see them besides some sport fucking on the side. Any thoughts on this?
So being the guider of those who venture to DR I solicit your advice in a double booking problem I have.
I inadvertently notified two of my DC Chicas, one a Haitian and the other a Dominican of my arrival on the 20th of this month. Major screw up on my part. Unfortunately both of these Chicas which I have a kind of "novio" history with think I'm only coming to see them which is never the case. If the Haitian knew I was seeing someone else, well she'd be gone in a minute whereas the Dominican might be more accepting. These Chicas are semi-pros as they meet guys via the Internet versus on the Strip. I'm in Sosua for 8 days and would like too see both of them without them knowing, and being under the illusion I'm only there to see them besides some sport fucking on the side. Any thoughts on this?Change your date from the 20th to the 23rd with the Haitian. Let the another one know you only has 3 days until you come and pick me up from Punta Cana.
Change your date from the 20th to the 23rd with the Haitian. Let the another one know you only has 3 days until you come and pick me up from Punta Cana.I wish it was that simple.
These girls are desperate for my greenbacks and both very different. The Dominican is more of a player so I might just tell her I have few days I can spend with her and will be with other friends and she can accept or reject it. A friend of mine who has met the Dominican (and wants to get in her pants) thinks she would go for what I'm thinking about. This would never fly with the Haitian. I wish I could have a combination of both of these Chicas. Totally opposite personality wise, different body types, and both very attractive and nasty.
It's rough having to deal with this, perhaps I should just cancel my trip so I don't have to deal with this very serious problem!
I wish it was that simple.
These girls are desperate for my greenbacks and both very different. The Dominican is more of a player so I might just tell her I have few days I can spend with her and will be with other friends and she can accept or reject it. A friend of mine who has met the Dominican (and wants to get in her pants) thinks she would go for what I'm thinking about. This would never fly with the Haitian. I wish I could have a combination of both of these Chicas. Totally opposite personality wise, different body types, and both very attractive and nasty.
It's rough having to deal with this, perhaps I should just cancel my trip so I don't have to deal with this very serious problem!First off, all ongoing relationships with chicas get to this point. You want to maintain the GFE, but also want some freedom to do your own thing, on your own time, no hassle. So you start lying, scheming, manipulating and inconveniencing yourself so's not to disappoint her or get her mad at you. (one guy here recently posted that he would sneak out at 1. 00 am on the pretense of being hungry, while the chica was asleep in his bed) Pretty soon you find yourself in a soap opera of your own choosing. You're losing control.
To break out of this, you have to lay down the law, be strong but consistent and show them that, while you can be a good occasional novio, you insist on control and freedom.
Each relationship is based on different, often unspoken ground rules, but generally with a GF, it's being discreet and avoiding publicly embarrassing her (you want the same from her, right?
When I'm with my GF, we are basically a monogamous couple. Nobody, male or female can come between us, so we can have fun, go anywhere together and have no arguments. It's a confident, secure relationship, when we are together.
It wasn't always this way. A couple years ago she was getting a little demanding and controlling how I spent all my time down there. She also advised me that she was coming to visit me, and was working on a visa and passport. I felt a little pressure to help her and was losing control of the relationship. So I used the excuse that she was bugging me for money to cool it and didn't respond to her for over a year.
During that time I was in the DR and was seeing a couple of chicas, that I didn't know she knew. I broke up with them for the same reasons. So she figured out how I like to hang, learned my limits, accepted it, and we hooked up again. We are both very strong minded individuals, and while I let her take control of the small things, now I get the last word.
Lay down the law! You must be willing to risk losing them, if you want to tame / train them. "Set them, free, and if they come back. Etc".
Tough love, or lose control, your choice.
Good luck!
Mr Enternational
01-13-15, 13:43
Exactly Oakie. When they start missing that pimpin they will come right back home. And if they don't then there are 10 more out there waiting to take her place.
If I had 100 pesos for every time my main Puerto Plata chick has said she is finished with me then I could get a chick out of Clasico. Last month I was down and wouldn't help her get her car out of the shop. She got all snotty and we went to a cabana. She said this is the last time. I am finished with you. I started laughing and said Oh this is the last time AGAIN? The next week she was sending me videos of her playing with a vibrator in her pussy.
Superbowl weekend is for sport-fucking and it's exactly what the guys in town will be looking for.
I plan to leave town before that weekend so I don't have too observe the spectacle of the sport-fuckers and the Chicas in action.
The best times in Sosua are the slow times.I agree. Sosua is just like a strip club, back home.
On Saturday night the joint is jumping, and you're lining up for that cute young looker in the corner, but she's busy.
Go in Tuesday afternoon, and she's lining up for you.
Lay down the law! You must be willing to risk losing them, if you want to tame / train them. "Set them, free, and if they come back. Etc".
Good luck!"Tame them and train them" !
Kind sounds like a catchy slogan and song you could March to while walking the Strip drinking a beer and smoking a cigar.
Taming them is the easy part, the harder part is training them.
"Tame them and train them" !
Kind sounds like a catchy slogan and song you could March to while walking the Strip drinking a beer and smoking a cigar.
Taming them is the easy part, the harder part is training them.This is a good slogan to be sung buy a DR Vet when dealing with chica in the DR. However, Newbies you try to refrain from this in Sosua. You should think more like Kenny Rogers. You have to know when to Hold'them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, and know when to run.
This is a good slogan to be sung buy a DR Vet when dealing with chica in the DR. However, Newbies you try to refrain from this in Sosua. You should think more like Kenny Rogers. You have to know when to Hold'them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, and know when to run.When you come to think of it, it's all been sang about before.
Just take your favorite music with you and listen to the words.
So being the guider of those who venture to DR I solicit your advice in a double booking problem I have.
I inadvertently notified two of my DC Chicas, one a Haitian and the other a Dominican of my arrival on the 20th of this month. Major screw up on my part. Unfortunately both of these Chicas which I have a kind of "novio" history with think I'm only coming to see them which is never the case. If the Haitian knew I was seeing someone else, well she'd be gone in a minute whereas the Dominican might be more accepting. These Chicas are semi-pros as they meet guys via the Internet versus on the Strip. I'm in Sosua for 8 days and would like too see both of them without them knowing, and being under the illusion I'm only there to see them besides some sport fucking on the side. Any thoughts on this?Surfer, what does having novio history consist of and what benefit do you get out of it when you are not with these chicas? Sounds more like you have "when it's my turn, I enjoyed them" history. Thats the history it seems you really had with those women? In other words, before you arrive, and after you go these women go right back to working their old and new novios through the internet. Meanwhile when you are away, you maintain contact with these women on social media.
How deep and meaningful is your communication with these women? Como esta? Once a day. Que tu hace? In the afternoon. A little te amo, and extrano mucho every now and then. A bunch of kisses and besos. A few pics, and cute messages with cute little doggies or hearts in them. Some spiritual messages? You know how I know? Me, you and dozen of other guys all get the same thing. Meanwhile these chicas don't know jack about us. And for the most part arent really interested in what we do when we arent there. They may not even know what kind of work you do, your family, your likes and dislikes, your daily routine. They don't know shit about you, like a regular woman where you live would ask. The only reason they stay in touch is so that they can ensure that you will bring your wallet back for them to extract from it. And for the most part we don't know that much about them. What we do know, is they all have some kind of problem or will have. And they don't mind telling us all about their problems and ailments.
So lets recap. You are concerned of getting caught by either one of these chicas seeing you with someone else? Chicas that are fucking other dudes before you come and after you leave? The Haitian chica would be gone in a minute if she knew you were with someone else? Really? She can fuck whomever she wants, whenever she wants, but she is supposed to be concerned about you with someone else? Now if she spots you with other women in Sosua (imagine that? A guy going to Sosua where an abundance of hookers are) but she is going to be gone in a minute? If that were to happen it makes perfect sense. You are occupied, therefore your wallet is tied up. No finance, no romance. No need to hang around you. I will see you later when your wallet is available.
Did it ever occur to you, that the only women they are concerned about are the women in the DR, especially other women hustling like them? What about the women from where you live? How come you don't get any grief or concern over the possibility of you being with women from where you live? They barely mention or have concern for those women. Because if other women were a problem, that Haitian chica should be prepared to drop your butt for general principle. Do they think you are just jerking off the whole time you are back home, and you wait until you get back to the DR to get them ( only them ) to relieve you? Sounds silly doesn't it? Man these chicas don't have control over you or me , we put ourselves in that position as if they do , walking around with that frame of mind. Like Pavlovs dog. Right now, you seem to be on automatic obedience or concern for what they think with these chicas because of some stimuli or performance they provide.
Next I would like to know, what is the draw with these women, that has you so concerned about losing them? They swallowing your venom when you nut? Tossing your salad? You busting nuts deep inside of them. They cook good meals? They washing your clothes? What? What? What? I want to know what kind of magical spell that these chicas have to cause a dude to be concerned about them finding out he is with other women besides them?
This is an interesting situation that raises a topic. As we get older, many of us start descending into seemingly being afraid of women. Afraid of losing them, their company, their attention, their sexual favors. Afraid of correcting them or respectfully putting them in check when it is deemed necessary. Afraid to seek out other chicas if the other chica is not making the cut. Instead they want to sweat the chica, and make her a priority. I have observed quite a few men in person that overly cater to women. And guys expressing sentiments like " you can't take it with you". They say that to justify them spending money like water on women, and doing things for women even if those women did nothing to earn it except for provide sex and companionship. Mostly, so the women will like them, or be with them, and nobody else. In essence, trying to buy exclusivity.
Why do so many older guys seem to be so insecure, to the point that they are afraid of a woman leaving them or being mad at them? And to compensate for that, adjusting to the whims of women, maybe start spoiling them or doing things that isn't appreciated or necessary?
Most mongers are fully aware, the main reason enough of these chicas don't want some guy they got on the hook with other chicas, is because the other chicas are getting their benefits instead of them. Trust, it aint because of some love they have for the man himself. As far as they are concerned, we aint nothing but a living carcass with benefits. Your wallet is the main thing that really matters. The sex is simply the medium used to get what they want from us. They know that if they arent the one providing the sex, comforts, they arent the one benefitting, somebody else is. So don't believe that crap that you are some chicas novio. It is just your turn when she is ready to barter and exchange your pesos for her company with you. She may be happy to see you. Kiss and sex you passionately. But the reality is, the reason she feels so good being with you, is because you have paid or will pay for a special place in her heart (purse) during the time it is your turn.
Here's an experiment. Give a chica the sum of what you would have given her if she spent that time with you, but be with other women instead. And see if that chica will agree to getting with you on your next trip.
SavePros321
01-13-15, 22:47
Most mongers are fully aware, the main reason enough of these chicas don't want some guy they got on the hook with other chicas, is because the other chicas are getting their benefits instead of them. Trust, it aint because of some love they have for the man himself. As far as they are concerned, we aint nothing but a living carcass with benefits. Your wallet is the main thing that really matters. The sex is simply the medium used to get what they want from us. They know that if they arent the one providing the sex, comforts, they arent the one benefitting, somebody else is. So don't believe that crap that you are some chicas novio. It is just your turn when she is ready to barter and exchange your pesos for her company with you. She may be happy to see you. Kiss and sex you passionately. But the reality is, the reason she feels so good being with you, is because you have paid or will pay for a special place in her heart (purse) during the time it is your turn.
It's like market share, LOL. McDonald's would rather you spend all of your money with them and you not having the option of spending it with Burger King, Wendy's, etc.
It's like market share, LOL. McDonald's would rather you spend all of your money with them and you not having the option of spending it with Burger King, Wendy's, etc.True. What cracks me up with chicas is the double standard logic many try to impose on a dude. I don't know how many times I have heard a dude tell the story about some chica he's dealing with, sweating him because he might be or has been with other chicas? Meanwhile they are coming to Sosua, using the internet to fuck other men.
Worse is seeing guys sort of confused like they really want to believe the chica is telling the truth, is sincere and has genuine feelings towards them.
Here's an example. A chica a buddy of mine messes with, comes to Sosua to be with him for a few days. After about 4 days with her, he's done. Wants her to leave. She gets an attitude about it. Accuses him of being with other chicas. But when he isn't there, I see her in Rumba looking for men. Her trying to get me to take her. Which I did, but that was a while ago, and I told my buddy about it. Lately, he got tired of the stupid ass daily exchanges they would have on Whatsapp. Her eventually begging for money. One day, he stopped talking to her on Whatsapp. Next she texts me, to ask me if I said anything about me and her getting together. She cant understand why he isnt responding to her messages. These muggs are a trip. The biggest problem a lot of guys have is they can't verify anything when these chicas tell their stories. Most times they are lying about something, some detail. And they ( the men ) want all too much to believe these chicas, and or excuse their behavior so they don't lose their connection. IMO what guys should be doing is putting these chicas in deep check when they start whining about some dude being with other chicas. This isn't only with regulars. That crap happens with chicas a guy hasnt even been with. The chica is in Sosua to fuck as many dudes as she can for money, and she is yakkity yakking about some dude being with other chicas. GTFOOHWTM.
Next I would like to know, what is the draw with these women, that has you so concerned about losing them? They swallowing your venom when you nut? Tossing your salad? You busting nuts deep inside of them. They cook good meals? They washing your clothes? What? What? What? I want to know what kind of magical spell that these chicas have to cause a dude to be concerned about them finding out he is with other women besides them?Not sure what to make of your posts sometime.
Negative, positive, altruistic, condescending, insulting, etc. I think Grownman refers to you correctly as "Sigmund Freud". Perhaps your a shrink in real life.
The questions I have for you is, would you be drawn to a woman that performed all of the above including the salad tossing which you can have.
Have you ever been captivated by a "psycho chica", I have experience in this department.
I have an un-written "don't ask / don't tell policy with both of these Chicas. They play me, I play them. I don't care what they do while I'm away, and they don't care what I do when I'm away. It's all about the money for them. Lot's of times things are all just an illusion and / or a fantasy for me. Who cares, I'm having a blast with all of this!
SavePros321
01-14-15, 01:17
How deep and meaningful is your communication with these women? Como esta? Once a day. Que tu hace? In the afternoon. A little te amo, and extrano mucho every now and then. A bunch of kisses and besos. A few pics, and cute messages with cute little doggies or hearts in them. Some spiritual messages? You know how I know? Me, you and dozen of other guys all get the same thing. Meanwhile these chicas don't know jack about us. And for the most part arent really interested in what we do when we arent there. They may not even know what kind of work you do, your family, your likes and dislikes, your daily routine. They don't know shit about you, like a regular woman where you live would ask. The only reason they stay in touch is so that they can ensure that you will bring your wallet back for them to extract from it. And for the most part we don't know that much about them. What we do know, is they all have some kind of problem or will have. And they don't mind telling us all about their problems and ailments.
I am not too hard guys when it comes to this. Let's face it: Reality (especially in Sex Prison, USA) sucks! Nothing wrong with a little illusion of affection from someone else to help you get through the day. Just look at the next bum you see on the street and imagine that if you could have looked into a crystal ball and showed him when he was 18 or 21 that at 27 he would end up broke and homeless on the street for the remainder of his life. He would probably have blown his brains out the next day.
Same thing with people that play the lottery. The illusion of striking it rich overnight despite the statistical odds being completely against you (you are more likely to experience death by vending machine then to win the lottery: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/30/15-things-more-likely-to-happen-than-winning-mega-millions.html) doesn't stop them from playing. Because "somebody won", and that's what keeps them going.
I have no illusions about "no money, no honey, and I do enjoy knowing that they are young, sweet honeys that will line up to take my money and send me an "hola amor" or "cuando regresas?" here and there on whatsapp or facebook. Compared to what I have here (the cold shoulder day in and day out from these hardened biyotches here in the US) it is nice to know you have a "happy spot" you can retreat to, and a smiling face to greet you. It keeps me on my toes and makes me want to grind harder so that I can always have the means to continue visiting that happy spot. The trick is to know when to turn it off. Because not doing so is how you find yourself in line at Western Union in your local supermarket, LOL.
Reality bites.
I am not too hard guys when it comes to this. Let's face it: Reality (especially in Sex Prison, USA) sucks! Nothing wro.Well put Pro Pimpin!
You have to know when to hold them know when to fold them know when to walk away know when to run. Sosua is Fantasyland for a lot of us. My man Sigmund Freud is speaking a reality that we all must understand. I think Surfer knows that. You can tell he does because he has the right attitude when he leaves he doesn't care what the chica does. He knows that they are semi pros. He plays his fantasy his way.
Mr Enternational
01-14-15, 02:15
Now I ask them before they ask me. Got to set the tone.
Troubleman69
01-14-15, 03:31
I never knock what another man does to have fun. It's his money, so do as you wish, BUT I have several regulars that I stay in contact with, and they know that I see other women when I'm there. It's my vacation, and I'll see you when I see you. .
SavePros321
01-14-15, 03:46
Now I ask them before they ask me. Got to set the tone.LMAO! You a fool Mr. E.
Not sure what to make of your posts sometime.
Negative, positive, altruistic, condescending, insulting, etc. I think Grownman refers to you correctly as "Sigmund Freud". Perhaps your a shrink in real life.
The questions I have for you is, would you be drawn to a woman that performed all of the above including the salad tossing which you can have.
Have you ever been captivated by a "psycho chica", I have experience in this department.
I have an un-written "don't ask / don't tell policy with both of these Chicas. They play me, I play them. I don't care what they do while I'm away, and they don't care what I do when I'm away. It's all about the money for them. Lot's of times things are all just an illusion and / or a fantasy for me. Who cares, I'm having a blast with all of this!My posts are designed to assist in a person making up their own mind. By repeating the particulars that were provided. Sometimes people need to see their circumstances broken down a different way than how they may have rationalized it. Considering that you may be an intuitive individual, I didn't think you would assume I intend to insult, or be condescending. All I'm doing is mirroring what you provided. Of course putting my own spin on it. But non the less, its' not me you would have a problem with.
Ya know very often there were times I thought I had a dilemma on my hands. The reality was. Everything turned out well inspite of my fears or concerns. And that's exactly what will happen with you. So what you told both chicas you were coming, and / or that you were going to be with them? What do you suppose is going to happen? You have it all worked out already. You believe the Haitian chica will dismiss you. If that were to happen, so be it. It's not like it will be the end of the world. And that's what I was trying to get across. Your wallet just won't be available to one of them this trip. You have always had the power to tell one or the other, I won't see you this trip. No explanation. As you say, don't ask, don't tell. But my point is, you always had the ability to organize who should come and who should stay home. In other words, you never had a major blunder like you assumed you had.
Surfer, you don't have to convince me or anybody about your awareness of knowing they are after your money. Or that you know it's an illusion and fantasy. I believe you. Your concern though over making the mistake of double booking tells a different story. If it is an illusion and a fantasy, then why all of this concern over these chicas, seeing you with other women? As if they would dump you? Thats a totally different issue altogether. And it sort of exposes another issue pertaining to you, and your sense of security in dealing with individuals providing an illusion and a fantasy. Further, if their interest in you is an illusion and a fantasy, is your concern an illusion and a fantasy too? Doesn't seem that way. And that's why I responded. Maybe I see something you don't want to see. Yes, I'm your brother in mongering, so I offer a perspective different than what you may get from others.
Now your questions. Would I be drawn to a woman that performed all of the above including the salad tossing which I can have. My answer is yes. Drawn to? Of course. But at some point I have limits and standards. I'm not Shaft, Superfly or James Bond. It's just every now and then some dudes just do what needs to be done without concern of losing some persons fake interest them. These days, I value exercising self control more than being concerned over what you think you may be losing by simply standing up for yourself. Now a days, I know I can be direct or covert in telling a chica, I won't see her this trip. I know damn well all this talk about us being the boss, because we have the cash counts for something. So I'm going to act like it means something.
Have you ever been captivated by a "psycho chica", Yes for a season. And then I slipped quickly back to reality. Now if you asked me these questions when I was youngster back in the day. I truthfully was a mess. Misrepresenting myself and my best interests. But damn man, I'm more than half a century old now. Aint we supposed to have more self control as men by now? Much wiser? Less pussy whipped? If everything is indeed an illusion or a fantasy with these chicas, then I expect a monger to act like those women are providing an illusion or fantasy of being mad or threatening to leave. And not take them so seriously. Apparently it's not all an illusion or a fantasy when it comes to some of us being concerned over losing their company. Many of us mongers have esteem issues of our own. Especially when it comes to dealing with PFP women. You may think I'm being negative? I think I'm offering food for thought.
My posts are designed to assist in a person making up their own mind. By repeating the particulars that were provided. Sometimes people need to see their circumstances broken down a different way than how they may have rationalized it. Thank the father of jesus we have our own Dr. Phil on a hooker Web site!
I for one, feel blessed.:rolleyes:
Thank the father of jesus we have our own Dr. Phil on a hooker Web site!
I for one, feel blessed.:rolleyes:I second that!
I second that!Me too!
Hookers can be like pets.
The dog or cat you have will go to anybody who feeds them, but you can still have an enjoyable relationship with them if you treat them well, but do they really, really love you? Who cares?
Takes a little more work if you want to add another dog, or a cat, but you can make it work.
That steak you ate, that beer you drank don't give a shit about you, and had to be paid for, but can be enjoyed nevertheless.
Same with pussy. Buy and enjoy! If you occasionally get a tough steak or a warm beer, no big deal.
I have no illusions about "no money, no honey, and I do enjoy knowing that they are young, sweet honeys that will line up.
It keeps me on my toes and makes me want to grind harder so that I can always have the means to continue visiting that happy spot.
Reality bites.Right on I feel that same way.
The trick is to know when to turn it off. Because not doing so is how you find yourself in line at Western Union in your local supermarket, LOL.
Thats one example. Another example is finding yourself being overly concerned of being dumped by PFP chicas that are freely PFP fucking other men.
I second that!
Thank the father of jesus we have our own Dr. Phil on a hooker Web site!
I for one, feel blessed.:rolleyes:Also thank Allah (or whomever) for having a website that keeps any spiritually grounded monger and part-time psychologist fully employed. .
Exactly Oakie. When they start missing that pimpin they will come right back home. And if they don't then there are 10 more out there waiting to take her place.
If I had 100 pesos for every time my main Puerto Plata chick has said she is finished with me then I could get a chick out of Clasico. Last month I was down and wouldn't help her get her car out of the shop. She got all snotty and we went to a cabana. She said this is the last time. I am finished with you. I started laughing and said Oh this is the last time AGAIN? The next week she was sending me videos of her playing with a vibrator in her pussy.I know what you mean.
When I visit my regular we always start with the same routine.
Donde es mi anillo?
Later! Una cervesa, primero.
No anillo para me, no pussy para te!
Then the hugs.
(It's important to keep a sense of humor).
I was thinking about getting a pedicure on the beach. What is a reasonable price? Anything else I should think about?
There are certain police officers on the strip with CESTUR written on their backs. The chicas are afraid of them because they randomly pick chicas and escort them away for questioning.
Does anybody know why the pick certain chicas and leave others? Since prostitution is illegal why don't they grab every girl?
Exactly Oakie. When they start missing that pimpin they will come right back home. And if they don't then there are 10 more out there waiting to take her place.
If I had 100 pesos for every time my main Puerto Plata chick has said she is finished with me then I could get a chick out of Clasico. Last month I was down and wouldn't help her get her car out of the shop. She got all snotty and we went to a cabana. She said this is the last time. I am finished with you. I started laughing and said Oh this is the last time AGAIN? The next week she was sending me videos of her playing with a vibrator in her pussy.Exactly man! Aint no reason to get all bent out of shape over some chica threatening to leave. One of my buddies used to say all the time. You can't make them mad. They may act like they are mad, act like they are done with you, but sooner or later they usually come right back acting like nothing ever happened.
Just got finished talking to a buddy of mine. His chica has been sending him pics of her supposedly being sick. Telling him she has no money. Just as we got off the phone, she dropped the subtle tactics and straight up asked him to send her some money for medicine. He had no intentions of sending her money when she sent the pictures, and surely has no interest in sending money just because she asked directly. Is he concerned about her dropping his ass for not sending money? Hell NO!
He will see her opportunistic butt if and when he chooses to on his next visit. And he will let her know how long she can stay, and when it's time to go. She can be mad all she wants. She is free to do whatever she thinks she needs to do make that money. And he is free to enjoy doing what makes him happy/satisfied. My buddy is not catering to some chicas whims because he has no concerns or fear of losing her.
Mr Enternational
01-14-15, 19:14
I was thinking about getting a pedicure on the beach. What is a reasonable price? Anything else I should think about?The only thing I would think about is that in a real salon the cost is 400-500 for both hands and feet together. Now if you want to pay some random lady walking around with an unsanitized bucket and nail clippers whatever price, then...
The only thing I would think about is that in a real salon the cost is 400-500 for both hands and feet together. Now if you want to pay some random lady walking around with an unsanitized bucket and nail clippers whatever price, then...Please tell me what salon gives mani / pedi for 500 pesos. My salon in the DR charges me 800 pesos for a mani / pedi and that's because I've been going there for years. Someone new off the street will pay 1000 p.
The girls on the beach aren't bad either. They sterilize the equipment in front of you. I found the Haitian girls don't always sterilize their equipment so be careful.
No middle men but legal for girls.
There are certain police officers on the strip with CESTUR written on their backs. The chicas are afraid of them because they randomly pick chicas and escort them away for questioning.
Does anybody know why the pick certain chicas and leave others? Since prostitution is illegal why don't they grab every girl?
Mr Enternational
01-14-15, 21:39
Please tell me what salon gives mani / pedi for 500 pesos. My salon in the DR charges me 800 pesos for a mani / pedi and that's because I've been going there for years. Someone new off the street will pay 1000 p.I paid 500 for the one in Puerto Plata. The normal salon in Bonao 500 as well. My regular place, the upscale salon in the back of Villar Hermanos parking lot in Santo Domingo charges 400. Hell it costs 1000 in the US!
I paid 500 for the one in Puerto Plata. The normal salon in Bonao 500 as well. My regular place, the upscale salon in the back of Villar Hermanos parking lot in Santo Domingo charges 400. Hell it costs 1000 in the US!You can get a mani / pedi in the States for 25 usd? Man you a bad dude. The cheapest I've seen it in Florida is 42 usd for both. Usually it's about 50 usd.
Also thank Allah (or whomever) for having a website that keeps any spiritually grounded monger and part-time psychologist fully employed. .By chance if your in Sosua next week perhaps we could meet up one afternoon at the Puta Viewing Gallery on the Strip, (aka. Premium Bar sidewalk area) as I need some therapy after reading your posts. I could layout some of the chairs and lay-down as though I was on a couch so as to create a "clinical setting" for you to psycho-analyze me as the Putas stroll by. I could then explain to you what the Chicas in the DR have been doing to me. Like my ex-Dominican Psycho woman. I can't get her out of my head, or I should say, off my head. During our last and final encounter she took a bottle of honey and poured it on my unit. She then began to lick and suck for the longest time until I erupted like Mt. Vesuvius in her mouth. She just couldn't get enough to swallow and wanted more. I have other true stories that hopefully upon sharing them with you, you can help me get a better grip on things as I am in dire need of Terapia in my mongering ways!
By chance if your in Sosua next week perhaps we could meet up one afternoon at the Puta Viewing Gallery on the Strip, (aka. Premium Bar sidewalk area) as I need some therapy after reading your posts. I could layout some of the chairs and lay-down as though I was on a couch so as to create a "clinical setting" for you to psycho-analyze me as the Putas stroll by. I could then explain to you what the Chicas in the DR have been doing to me. Like my ex-Dominican Psycho woman. I can't get her out of my head, or I should say, off my head. During our last and final encounter she took a bottle of honey and poured it on my unit. She then began to lick and suck for the longest time until I erupted like Mt. Vesuvius in her mouth. She just couldn't get enough to swallow and wanted more. I have other true stories that hopefully upon sharing them with you, you can help me get a better grip on things as I am in dire need of Terapia in my mongering ways!Confucius says: She Who gives great nut is also one.
There are certain police officers on the strip with CESTUR written on their backs. The chicas are afraid of them because they randomly pick chicas and escort them away for questioning.
Does anybody know why the pick certain chicas and leave others? Since prostitution is illegal why don't they grab every girl?I could be mistaken but unless the chica commited a crime the only logic I could think of is that they take chicas whom they assume have money (they stake them out all night). Take the chica in, shake her down, maybe throw her into a cell for a couple of hours (or overnight) and let her go the next day. (tossing a wh*re). As for taking all the chicas in the local businesses would flip and start complaining since this would indeed kill their business. Guys wouldn't want to hang out and drink if there are no chicas to be had. This is the reason we come to Sosua in the first place.
By chance if your in Sosua next week perhaps we could meet up one afternoon at the Puta Viewing Gallery on the Strip, (aka. Premium Bar sidewalk area) as I need some therapy after reading your posts. I could layout some of the chairs and lay-down as though I was on a couch so as to create a "clinical setting" for you to psycho-analyze me as the Putas stroll by. I could then explain to you what the Chicas in the DR have been doing to me. Like my ex-Dominican Psycho woman. I can't get her out of my head, or I should say, off my head. During our last and final encounter she took a bottle of honey and poured it on my unit. She then began to lick and suck for the longest time until I erupted like Mt. Vesuvius in her mouth. She just couldn't get enough to swallow and wanted more. I have other true stories that hopefully upon sharing them with you, you can help me get a better grip on things as I am in dire need of Terapia in my mongering ways!Count me in too.
Here I've been enjoying the DR, the people, Sosua and its chicas for 6 years now. I even have a regular GF from another distant part of the Island.
Our resident Dr. Phil has regularly called me ignorant, stupid, and a bunch of other uncharitable stuff.
Maybe he can help me find out how I fucked up so badly. LOL.
After all, look at all those poor misguided "buddies" he has straightened out. Seems every week a new one.
Been here a few days. After an absence of 4 years. Not much has really changed, some places closed, some new places opened; still lots of chicas in various bars and on the street. I've tapped a couple already with my usual results, some are OK some are less than. I find the sex fairly mechanical, not much kissing or GFE, maybe I'm just getting to be too old, but it's still fun. Most of the ladies start at "dos mil" (2000RD) but will eventually accept 1500 for the short time. After I nut they bounce out of bed to the shower and put their clothes back on. I think the older chicas give better service than the really young ones.
I'm taking pics with my cell but don't have service here so will post more when I am back home.
I am amused by the police walking around (with Centaur or similar on their backs) and the chicas all quickly disperse for a few minutes then come back to their spots after they're gone. Funny.
All for today.
"Cestur" is what I meant to post
Seems my first post was lost in the ether, so here we go again.
Back on the ground in Sosua after a 4 year absence. Not much has changed....some places closed new places opened. Best chica hunting is in the new sports bar (Rumba's??)....chicas all start at 2000 RD but most will eventually accept 1500 RD. Service is pretty average, somewhat mechanical.....not much kissing or GFE, maybe I am getting too old, but it's still fun. There are a LOT of chicas out at night, plenty of choices in the bars and on the street....funny to see them disperse when the cops with CESTUR written on their backs sweep through. Funny.
Here for a few more days, will post pics when I am back home as my cell phone does not work here.
Count me in too.
Here I've been enjoying the DR, the people, Sosua and its chicas for 6 years now. I even have a regular GF from another distant part of the Island.
Our resident Dr. Phil has regularly called me ignorant, stupid, and a bunch of other uncharitable stuff.
Maybe he can help me find out how I fucked up so badly. LOL.
After all, look at all those poor misguided "buddies" he has straightened out. Seems every week a new one.How dear yall disrespect my man Sigmund Freud. Dr. Phil's analogy does not come close to his psycho analytical approach to breaking down these hoes. You must say the man makes you think.
How dear yall disrespect my man Sigmund Freud. Dr. Phil's analogy does not come close to his psycho analytical approach to breaking down these hoes. You must say the man makes you think.WRX brings an interesting point of view that provokes thought. Additionally I think his points have to be filtered because what works for him might not work for you. For me, I travel to have fun and I don't let a few dollars stop me from enjoying myself. Each guy has to live their life as they see fit so if you haven't figured out who you are by the time you have reached middle age, maybe you never will. Now with dealing with foreign chicas each guy will learn different lessons but the overall theme is that it's your vacation and your money so make yourself happy.
Chocolatte22
01-15-15, 16:59
What's up people?
First time poster here. I am thoroughly entertained by some of the posts and responses and thank you for the tips. I am coming to the north part of the island on Jan 17 for a few days over the MLK Jr. Weekend. I will have a car and am driving from Santiago to Sosua at around 11 am on Saturday morning. Just wanted to check if anybody wanted a ride to the area? This is my 4th time in Puerto Plata and I have driven every time. I feel comfortable getting around and dealing with the Dominican traffic laws (what laws)?
Count me in too.
Here I've been enjoying the DR, the people, Sosua and its chicas for 6 years now. I even have a regular GF from another distant part of the Island.
Our resident Dr. Phil has regularly called me ignorant, stupid, and a bunch of other uncharitable stuff.
Maybe he can help me find out how I fucked up so badly. LOL.
After all, look at all those poor misguided "buddies" he has straightened out. Seems every week a new one.Lets get something straight. I don't have a history of INITIATING calling people names or making personal attacks. Anything of a sort, if you got that from me, it happened after you initiated exactly that towards me, and I gave you back what you dished. But with a spin on it. I'm not responsible for your feelings, if you don't like me holding my own. As I recall, I usually seek feedback and ask questions to get information before I make gross assumptions. Most times, people ignore answering what I ask. However, that approach is so that I have a firm grasp of someones point of view.
That practice usually elicits major defenses from people who have trouble explaining, supporting or defending their POV. Or they never gave their POV much thought, because they are usually responding based on their feelings, moreso than a principle they are defending. As a result my approach is embraced as a personal attack, by certain types of individuals. Answering my inquiries honestly, one pays the price of possibly not looking too good on the issues. Or exposing something not too flattering. Why else would some of you resort to personalizing the discussion, instead of dealing with the things that were said. All you have to do is show me where what I said, has no credibility, completely false, or never applies. Nobody ever does that. But you are free to do that at any time. Instead, look how you represent your discord or disagreement. What does that say about you in comparison to someone else who is expecting and appreciates s a better representation in a debate/discussion?
And that's one reason why you and me are where we are today. I don't require any buffoonery or buddying up. Common sense speaks for itself. It's humble and quiet.
Have no problem fellowshipping with you in general. That we can do. But I don't think we need to be engaging in any psycho babble while were both trying to do our own thing.
Besides, look how you are representing here online when someone tries to offer you an alternative food for thought. I'm pretty sure I nailed it or was at least close to what your role could or should be in your own dilemma. If you had anything substantive to offer, or even refute, we could or should have read it. Then we would have had an intelligent exchange of ideas and / or perspectives, where all of us could join in. I crave that from folks. Most fall short in being able to provide that. So apparently what I shared may have been a little too much information that you didn't want or didn't ask for (from me). Looks bad when it's uncovered and raw like that.
And yet I answered your questions, and got no response or feedback. You also indicated that you have difficulty trying to distinguish where I'm coming from. Which is why you seem unsure if I might have been insulting you, or being condescending. You seem to have a problem simply acknowledging just basic common sense in what I provided and offer feedback for it. And instead try to twist it into something else, and buddy up in buffoonery. If supporting you here aint working, how do you expect anybody to get through to you at the neighborhood drinking hole? Most of what we talk about is basic common sense. It don't require being Freud or Einstein. Just simply using ones head above the shoulders, instead of the one below the belt line. That in a nutshell is usually the crux of enough guys problem. Don't need no couch to figure that out. Now, you still want to meet at PD? I should be there next week. And there for 3 months or so.Your resposne to my post is filled with nonsensical babble as are most of your posts. If you think I was trying to buddy up to you with buffoonery you are mistaken. There are members on this board that think your a total Payaso and don't want to tangle with you and all your babble. Regardless, I'm open to meeting you next week as I will have time to kill between my morning surf sessions and my extracurricular activities.
Ipanema Carioca
01-16-15, 11:50
Pedro Clisante is open open again to auto parking and traffic at night. Cars can park on the street but motoconchos can't. Motoconchos can drive thru without stopping or waiting for customers. So there are no more tables and chairs in the streets.
Lets get something straight. I don't have a history of INITIATING calling people names or making personal attacks. Anything of a sort, if you got that from me, it happened after you initiated exactly that towards me, and I gave you back what you dished. But with a spin on it. I'm not responsible for your feelings, if you don't like me holding my own. As I recall, I usually seek feedback and ask questions to get information before I make gross assumptions. Most times, people ignore answering what I ask. However, that approach is so that I have a firm grasp of someones point of view.
That practice usually elicits major defenses from people who have trouble explaining, supporting or defending their POV. Or they never gave their POV much thought, because they are usually responding based on their feelings, moreso than a principle they are defending. As a result my approach is embraced as a personal attack, by certain types of individuals. Answering my inquiries honestly, one pays the price of possibly not looking too good on the issues. Or exposing something not too flattering. Why else would some of you resort to personalizing the discussion, instead of dealing with the things that were said. All you have to do is show me where what I said, has no credibility, completely false, or never applies. Nobody ever does that. But you are free to do that at any time. Instead, look how you represent your discord or disagreement. What does that say about you in comparison to someone else who is expecting and appreciates s a better representation in a debate/discussion?
And that's one reason why you and me are where we are today. I don't require any buffoonery or buddying up. Common sense speaks for itself. It's humble and quiet.I'm sure you are and will remain, in your own estimation, a very humble person, quiet, and brimming with common sense.
Pedro Clisante is open open again to auto parking and traffic at night. Cars can park on the street but motoconchos can't. Motoconchos can drive thru without stopping or waiting for customers. So there are no more tables and chairs in the streets.Do you know why the re-opened it. Seems as though they should of only been shutting down a portion of the street say from Latinos down to Rumbas instead of all the way down to the Playero market. Maybe the businesses where hurting with the street shutdown and wanted it re-opened. It was nice having it closed down at night.
Tempoecorto
01-16-15, 17:09
Your resposne to my post is filled with nonsensical babble as are most of your posts. There was a grain of truth in the original and tediously long commentary, that there is no point being ruffled by some of the P4P women's tantrums. However, brevity is more effective. Evidently our man likes the soapbox, and to hear himself speak, and so, the solution is to ignore.
Do you know why the re-opened it. Seems as though they should of only been shutting down a portion of the street say from Latinos down to Rumbas instead of all the way down to the Playero market. Maybe the businesses where hurting with the street shutdown and wanted it re-opened. It was nice having it closed down at night.Who knows what the logic is in Sosua.
This, from Sosua-News:
"From Saturday January 10 the main street Pedro Clisante is no longer closed for traffic in the evenings. As before, you can park your car again in the street in front of the bars and restaurants. Mopeds, motorcycles and scooters on the other hand may drive through the street, but may not park in the street. Hence the motoconchos may not wait in the street at the disco for their customers. The restaurant and bar owners can no longer place their tables and chairs in the street.
Almost everyone was used to it and it got cozier and busier in the closed street every evening. Many of the restaurant and bar owners are angry and disappointed by this decision of the municipality. Who is behind this decision is unclear. No one can tell who or what made the municipality change its mind and decide to keep the road open again for traffic. Sosúa seemed to be friendlier and more attractive to the family tourist. But for this decision, the Pedro Clisante, the nightlife street of Sosúa, is again less pleasant to stay for the tourist. ".
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Just saw this item there too:
"Friday afternoon, January 9, officers of the special unit 'Crmenes why Delitos de Alta Tecnologa (Dicat) arrested four Bulgarians in Sosa.
They were caught red-handed at the ATM in Sosa installing a scam device. Research in their hotel rooms in a hotel in the beach resort, the agents found a series of forged credit cards, scam devices and weapons. Weapons like pepper spray and machetes. There were also two cars (Honda CRV and Ford Escape) seized. The four Bulgarians appeared to have been active for six months on the north coast scamming cards at ATM's".
Bulgarians?
Charles Pooter
01-16-15, 19:21
Bulgarians?My uncle, who was a police sergeant in the West End of London in the 1940's, used "Bulgarians" as a euphemism for practising homosexuals (buggers) when discussing his experiences in front of the family with us young children present.
Probably not too relevant in the present case, but I wanted to assure you all I was brought up in a polite family.
Marc Anthony
01-17-15, 00:33
What's up people?
First time poster here. I am thoroughly entertained by some of the posts and responses and thank you for the tips. I am coming to the north part of the island on Jan 17 for a few days over the MLK Jr. Weekend. I will have a car and am driving from Santiago to Sosua at around 11 am on Saturday morning. Just wanted to check if anybody wanted a ride to the area? This is my 4th time in Puerto Plata and I have driven every time. I feel comfortable getting around and dealing with the Dominican traffic laws (what laws)?"Do what thou wilt" shall be the whole of the law. If thou shall be in an accident, however, whomever is at fault, thou art fukked.
Camaro1257
01-17-15, 05:02
"Do what thou wilt" shall be the whole of the law. If thou shall be in an accident, however, whomever is at fault, thou art fukked.Funnie guy-ROTFL!
Mr Enternational
01-17-15, 05:57
SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. One of the finest chicks I have ever seen in my life just told me $12 for 30 minutes. Here you don't here that leche papi shit; you hear fuck me harder baby. Then when you finally finish they let you rest up for 5 minutes and ask if you are ready to go again. I told the broad no and she talking about come here so I can suck it to get you back ready. I said hell no get your freaky ass away from me. I'm going back to my hotel. That mf broke me the fuck off. Won't even mention the chick I hit earlier for $25. Went into the room and she immediately climbed on top and started riding my dick and commenced to squirt all over the fucking place. This is definitely one of the funnest mongering spots on the planet. And there are without a doubt more hookers here than Angeles City Philippines. It's only midnight and me and my wingman are out for the count.
SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. One of the finest chicks I have ever seen in my life just told me $12 for 30 minutes. Here you don't here that leche papi shit; you hear fuck me harder baby. Then when you finally finish they let you rest up for 5 minutes and ask if you are ready to go again. I told the broad no and she talking about come here so I can suck it to get you back ready. I said hell no get your freaky ass away from me. I'm going back to my hotel. That mf broke me the fuck off. Won't even mention the chick I hit earlier for $25. Went into the room and she immediately climbed on top and started riding my dick and commenced to squirt all over the fucking place. This is definitely one of the funnest mongering spots on the planet. And there are without a doubt more hookers here than Angeles City Philippines. It's only midnight and me and my wingman are out for the count.Oh shit! They done let the rooster in the fucking hen house. Medellin kick his ass out before all our good girls are ruined LOL.
Oh shit! They done let the rooster in the fucking hen house. Medellin kick his ass out before all our good girls are ruined LOL.And here I was, happy that I had booked my next trip to Sosua, and he comes out with this shit about gorgeous, cheap, lovin', hookers in Medellin!
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