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SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. One of the finest chicks I have ever seen in my life just told me $12 for 30 minutes. Here you don't here that leche papi shit; you hear fuck me harder baby. Then when you finally finish they let you rest up for 5 minutes and ask if you are ready to go again. I told the broad no and she talking about come here so I can suck it to get you back ready. I said hell no get your freaky ass away from me. I'm going back to my hotel. That mf broke me the fuck off. Won't even mention the chick I hit earlier for $25. Went into the room and she immediately climbed on top and started riding my dick and commenced to squirt all over the fucking place. This is definitely one of the funnest mongering spots on the planet. And there are without a doubt more hookers here than Angeles City Philippines. It's only midnight and me and my wingman are out for the count.That's is I am doing Medellin after my 007 mission. Pro Pimpin, Mr E, anyone?! When is the next trip I am down.
SavePros321
01-17-15, 15:21
SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. One of the finest chicks I have ever seen in my life just told me $12 for 30 minutes. Here you don't here that leche papi shit; you hear fuck me harder baby. Then when you finally finish they let you rest up for 5 minutes and ask if you are ready to go again. I told the broad no and she talking about come here so I can suck it to get you back ready. I said hell no get your freaky ass away from me. I'm going back to my hotel. That mf broke me the fuck off. Won't even mention the chick I hit earlier for $25. Went into the room and she immediately climbed on top and started riding my dick and commenced to squirt all over the fucking place. This is definitely one of the funnest mongering spots on the planet. And there are without a doubt more hookers here than Angeles City Philippines. It's only midnight and me and my wingman are out for the count.I just have to say that you and your wingman are brave dudes for hanging out AND staying in El Centro after dark, lol. Most people (the locals, taxi drivers) advise rolling out of there before sunset.
I haven't been back to a casa there since my first trip in 2012. El Centro is definitely not the crown jewel of Medellin. After having to step over people sleeping under slabs of cardboard during the day and seeing human shit on the sidewalk, once was enough for me, LOL.
Glad to see you are enjoying yourself though :D
And watch out for the glue-sniffer. I hear they can be very erratic (and dangerous), lol.
SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. One of the finest chicks I have ever seen in my life just told me $12 for 30 minutes. Here you don't here that leche papi shit; you hear fuck me harder baby. Then when you finally finish they let you rest up for 5 minutes and ask if you are ready to go again. I told the broad no and she talking about come here so I can suck it to get you back ready. I said hell no get your freaky ass away from me. I'm going back to my hotel. That mf broke me the fuck off. Won't even mention the chick I hit earlier for $25. Went into the room and she immediately climbed on top and started riding my dick and commenced to squirt all over the fucking place. This is definitely one of the funnest mongering spots on the planet. And there are without a doubt more hookers here than Angeles City Philippines. It's only midnight and me and my wingman are out for the count.How dare you disparage Sosua. Sosua is a prime mongering destination:
(1) The girls only cry 'leche papi' because they want to ensure that you climax which is the high point of any sexual encounter. To have sex and not orgasm can be very frustrating. They have your interest at heart.
(2) Medellin does not have a beach and does not have that relaxing ambience that Sosua has.
(3) Medellin does not have the helpful touts that Sosua has, these guys are willing to help you for a pittance. You will never lack for helpful information in Sosua.
(4) If you have any game at all you can get many freebies in Sosua.
(5) There are lovely souvenirs for sale all over Sosua, you can always have recollections of your trip when you are back home inclusive of some amazing Haitian paintings.
(6) All the chicas are within a very short walk from your hotel room, some may even be found in the hotel premises itself. No need to hop a taxi in traffic to get to chicas.
(7) There are massage joints, watering holes and clubs within a short walk from your hotel.
(8) Sosua is safer than Medellin.
(9) All hotels are chica friendly.
(10) There are ATMs, supermarkets, restaurants etc. Within a short walk from your hotel.
(11) There are many American and European mongers around with whom you can have a drink and exchange field reports.
How dare you disparage Sosua. Sosua is a prime mongering destination:
(1) The girls only cry 'leche papi' because they want to ensure that you climax which is the high point of any sexual encounter. To have sex and not orgasm can be very frustrating. They have your interest at heart.
(2) Medellin does not have a beach and does not have that relaxing ambience that Sosua has.
(3) Medellin does not have the helpful touts that Sosua has, these guys are willing to help you for a pittance. You will never lack for helpful information in Sosua.
(4) If you have any game at all you can get many freebies in Sosua.
(5) There are lovely souvenirs for sale all over Sosua, you can always have recollections of your trip when you are back home inclusive of some amazing Haitian paintings.
(6) All the chicas are within a very short walk from your hotel room, some may even be found in the hotel premises itself. No need to hop a taxi in traffic to get to chicas.
(7) There are massage joints, watering holes and clubs within a short walk from your hotel.
(8) Sosua is safer than Medellin.
(9) All hotels are chica friendly.
(10) There are ATMs, supermarkets, restaurants etc. Within a short walk from your hotel.
(11) There are many American and European mongers around with whom you can have a drink and exchange field reports.It is good to read the counterpoint having never been to either place but going to DR first time in June. Did not know about the paintings but am interested. Do they have any big boob nude paintings? I would also like to go to Medellin sometime. I hear it is the big boob capitol of South America.
SavePros321
01-17-15, 18:07
It is good to read the counterpoint having never been to either place but going to DR first time in June. Did not know about the paintings but am interested. Do they have any big boob nude paintings? I would also like to go to Medellin sometime. I hear it is the big boob capitol of South America.I am not certain if Turgid was being serious or facetious about the Haitian paintings, LOL. They are not bad in all honesty. It is just that they will hassle you to no end to buy one, then hassle you to no end if you did buy one ("you bought one yesterday, why not buy another?").
Some of his post seems a bit tongue-in-cheek. No one has ever mentioned the touts as a highlight of Sosua, lol. Anytime you add a middle man into the equation, you will always pay a higher price. Plus they can use the chica they are getting for you to give them all sorts of juicy tidbits:
-He is staying at X hotel
-He is leaving on Sunday
-He has an iPad, laptop, video camera, iPhone
-He keeps all of his pesos in his back pocket
-Etc.
I am kinda pissed I missed the street closures though. That was one of the aspects I had forgotten about, and would have probably propelled me to have revisited sooner other than just for the fact that Clasicos has reopened. I hope they plan to close the streets again soon.
Mr Enternational
01-17-15, 18:22
And here I was, happy that I had booked my next trip to Sosua, and he comes out with this shit about gorgeous, cheap, lovin', hookers in Medellin!I will stop beating it, but I'm eating lunch across from my hotel now and one of the girls at the $12 casa next door to my hotel just stuck her head out the window.
Manizales911
01-17-15, 19:03
How dare you disparage Sosua. Sosua is a prime mongering destination:
(1) The girls only cry 'leche papi' because they want to ensure that you climax which is the high point of any sexual encounter. To have sex and not orgasm can be very frustrating. They have your interest at heart.
(2) Medellin does not have a beach and does not have that relaxing ambience that Sosua has.
(3) Medellin does not have the helpful touts that Sosua has, these guys are willing to help you for a pittance. You will never lack for helpful information in Sosua.
(4) If you have any game at all you can get many freebies in Sosua.
(5) There are lovely souvenirs for sale all over Sosua, you can always have recollections of your trip when you are back home inclusive of some amazing Haitian paintings.
(6) All the chicas are within a very short walk from your hotel room, some may even be found in the hotel premises itself. No need to hop a taxi in traffic to get to chicas.
(7) There are massage joints, watering holes and clubs within a short walk from your hotel.
(8) Sosua is safer than Medellin.
(9) All hotels are chica friendly.
(10) There are ATMs, supermarkets, restaurants etc. Within a short walk from your hotel.
(11) There are many American and European mongers around with whom you can have a drink and exchange field reports.Huh? You can't possibly be serious.
(1) The truth is, the girls cry leche Papi because they want you to nut so that they can get back on the street looking for another sucker.
(2) True, no beach in Medellin but I can relax in both places, I don't need a beach to relax.
(3) Touts anywhere are scum, stay the fuck away from them.
(4) Yeah, right.
(5) This is getting silly.
(6) In Medellin the girls come to your apartment.
(7) Same in Medellin.
(8) Safety is what YOU make of it.
(9) If you know anything about Colombia then you don't stay in a hotel.
(10) Same in Medellin.
(11) Why do I want to travel out of my country to hang out with people from my own country? Field reports? Who needs field reports?
SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. One of the finest chicks I have ever seen in my life just told me $12 for 30 minutes. Here you don't here that leche papi shit; you hear fuck me harder baby. Then when you finally finish they let you rest up for 5 minutes and ask if you are ready to go again. I told the broad no and she talking about come here so I can suck it to get you back ready. I said hell no get your freaky ass away from me. I'm going back to my hotel. That mf broke me the fuck off. Won't even mention the chick I hit earlier for $25. Went into the room and she immediately climbed on top and started riding my dick and commenced to squirt all over the fucking place. This is definitely one of the funnest mongering spots on the planet. And there are without a doubt more hookers here than Angeles City Philippines. It's only midnight and me and my wingman are out for the count.More pros than Angeles? Oh, shit! If I could ever find a cheap fare from SJO (SJ, Costa Rica) to MDE I'd be there in a heartbeat. Unfortunately all of the fares are around $600.
I will stop beating it, but I'm eating lunch across from my hotel now and one of the girls at the $12 casa next door to my hotel just stuck her head out the window.Fuck you and your beautiful, enthusiastic and affordably priced chicas.
Much more of a challenge in Sosua to deal with overpriced, halfhearted, hurried, saggy when unwrapped putas and their stories of deprivation at home, no milk, no comida, no luz, no gaz, no cabl.
Like boot camp, it builds character.
Sosua is where REAL men go to monger! :)
In the Turgid-Manizales debate on Sosua & Medellin having been to both, I agree with Turgid on every count. Safety is what you make of it? Give me break. That's the most naive statement I have ever heard unless you are just trying to be macho. But I also agree with Turgid on all other counts.
(4) If you have any game at all you can get many freebies in Sosua.(Dude! I have lots of game; my game is pesos!
Parkinsons
01-18-15, 01:00
If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. The only people that mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence are folks who come on the DR thread to tell us why we shouldn't go to DR, and instead should go to Colombia.
I've never been to Medellin (or Colombia, for that matter), but I'll keep an open mind. Intrigued, I read up on the Medellin thread. Here's a sample of what I'm seeing:
...it is unlikely that that you are planning to go to MDE for casas, which with couple of exceptions, are crap compared to FKKs. If you are planning a mongering trip to MDE (Unless you are traveling to Colombia for other reasons or for a long term stay), I would also suggest Saint Martin as an alternative to MDE. IMHO it is the second best place outside of Colombia for hot Colombians and is completely hassle free. As you are finding out, getting the most out of MDE take some work. So DR ain't shit compare to Colombia. But it turns out Colombia ain't shit either compared to Germany. There's always a paradise more beautiful than the last paradise?
You can spend time and money on what you think is a potential girlfriend while she is only spending time with you just to figure out to get her hands on your money; presents, simply just take your wallet and gone in a few seconds...
...Colombians, though many are respectful, there are those who totally lack respect, and 100% of them take contact with gringos, while descent people requires more time.
Therefore you will meet a lot of bad girls...
The view these type of Colombians have on foreigners in combination with the IMPULSE, is that you are some kind of St Claus, Papa Noel. This childish behaviour is typical Colombian and I have not met it in equally poor Peru, not in Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. Wow. I thought only DR girls have no shame in request for dinero.
...I believe it it "Chuparme / chupame sin condon?" You can always do the hand guesture and say "sucky sucky sin condon?
I must say I am disappointed to see guys paying 50 k propina for it though. I have never had a CBJ in the DR once.
Edit: with the exception of a threesome I had at GBP. Not only was it CBJ, the girls made me change condoms when they switched turns. Not a good experience.
The food is good, the shopping is nice. What would you do if you visited San Francisco? Take the cable cars and enjoy the views. Ride the metro train. There is a paint ball place in the hills above Poblado. See a movie. Enjoy the food (the vegetables, grown in that rich, volcanic soil are incredible - not that near-hydroponic shredded cardboard stuff you buy back home.) Get your shoes shined. Eat in the local holes-in-wall. Get some tailoring done. But mostly, walk around and smell the fresh mountain air, watch the locals go about doing their daily routines, take a spanish speaking buddy and ride the buses and taxis. Get a map and explore. (for safety's sake remember the old adage "Nothing good happens after xx O'clock, so get back home before things get dangerous.) Hit the gym in the mall and enjoy the eye candy. It's a vacation. Rest and recreation. Get a manicure and pedicure. Get a haircut and a massage. Recharge before you go back to the grind. Hmm. "go watch a movie" constitute as a vacation activity in Medellin. I will never take the beach in Sosua for granted again! And staying inside and bolting the door shut after dark? Never had to do that in the DR either. "getting your shoes shined"? in Sosua we kick the shoe-shine kids in the nuts so they'd stay away. However, I can venture a guess though that the food in Colombia is probably much better than DR.
So there you go. Words coming from the Medellin vets. I'm not saying the reviews are all negative on Medellin, or these posts are representative. BUT, these posts are from only the last 10 days(!) Am I pro-DR or Anti-Colombia? I'm just neutral. I'll try everything. I've been honest in my DR trip reports, I told of my failures, frustrations, and stuff I didn't like about DR. Should I visit Colombia I'll do the same.
SavePros321
01-18-15, 01:11
I have never had a CBJ in the DR once.
Edit: with the exception of a threesome I had at GBP. Not only was it CBJ, the girls made me change condoms when they switched turns. Not a good experience.
Have to put things in perspective so that others undertand the context from the post you quoted me from. Here is the original post chain:
I believe it it "Chuparme / chupame sin condon?" You can always do the hand guesture and say "sucky sucky sin condon?
I must say I am disappointed to see guys paying 50 k propina for it though.
Yes me too. I think about half the girls at the mansion did it without me even asking.
Yeah, same with the chicas that come over to the apartment (although you do have some that will try you; best to send them back home right away in that case).
It is generally in the casas and strip clubs that guys have to worry about CBJ being the norm.
So this is mostly the guys that visit casas in Medellin paying 50k propina for BBBJ. With freelance chicas (which I only deal with) BBBJ is not even up for debate. The few that tried to pull it with me got sent home.
But I am not one to say that one place is better than the other. The DR has some very hot women, just like Colombia does. All you have to do is getting on Dominican Cupid to see that truth.
SavePros now I see why you have not been back to DR. If I ever hear someone mention DR and Medellin in the same sentence then I will karate chop their ass. .Certain mongers reports carry more weight with me. Ghost Face Killer aka Mr. Enternational is one. Mr. E is like E. F. Hutton in my book!
Mr Enternational
01-18-15, 03:22
I have never been one to steer anyone wrong about mongering. I would not recommend the average monger go to Bogota, Cali, Barranquilla, or expensive ass Cartagena. But Medellin is a horse of a different color. Now I will say that both me and my wingman speak Spanish which could make adventures more fun than trying to figure out what a chica is telling you or how to get your message across to her.
And as Vitrea was trying to point out it all depends on the purpose of your trip. (Not sure of the FKK comparison with a casa though. That is like comparing the neighborhood pool to Sandals resort. Two different types of venue.) Of course you are not going to Miami if you want to snow ski. To sum up Medellin: If you want to fuck top notch chicks short time at bargain basement prices with no muss, no fuss, and service with a smile then come here. The women will let you know that they are all about the money, but they fucking do their job to a T and don't try to cut corners like women in other destinations. If you are craving for a steak dinner don't come here; go to Argentina.
Certain mongers reports carry more weight with me. Ghost Face Killer aka Mr. Enternational is one. Mr. E is like E. F. Hutton in my book!He's a real pro, willing to share.
Like any pro, he has a wide range of tools at his disposal, experience, language and a good radar for trouble.
My only issue with him has been in the past that he makes it look too easy (especially confrontations with with cops and bad putas) and a less experienced monger could find trouble trying to roll like him.
But there's none better, and he's more cautionary these days.
I have never been one to steer anyone wrong about mongering. I would not recommend the average monger go to Bogota, Cali, Barranquilla, or expensive ass Cartagena. But Medellin is a horse of a different color. Now I will say that both me and my wingman speak Spanish which could make adventures more fun than trying to figure out what a chica is telling you or how to get your message across to her.
And as Vitrea was trying to point out it all depends on the purpose of your trip. (Not sure of the FKK comparison with a casa though. That is like comparing the neighborhood pool to Sandals resort. Two different types of venue.) Of course you are not going to Miami if you want to snow ski. To sum up Medellin: If you want to fuck top notch chicks short time at bargain basement prices with no muss, no fuss, and service with a smile then come here. The women will let you know that they are all about the money, but they fucking do their job to a T and don't try to cut corners like women in other destinations. If you are craving for a steak dinner don't come here; go to Argentina.How are the none and semi pros there? Do you have any experience with them?
In the DC area the largest strip club I know of has mostly latina chicas. About 50 or more girls from South and central America. The girls do lap dances at $10 a pop. Most of the girls give very good performances as there is much competition and latina guys who are in the majority are tight with their cash. I was there last night and pulled a girl who looked off the charts. 38 DD and everything in purportion. She was from Columbia. I have never seen a body like hers anywhere. She also had a very good attitude. I almost booked a trip as soon as I got home.
In the DC area the largest strip club I know of has mostly latina chicas. About 50 or more girls from South and central America. The girls do lap dances at $10 a pop. Most of the girls give very good performances as there is much competition and latina guys who are in the majority are tight with their cash. I was there last night and pulled a girl who looked off the charts. 38 DD and everything in purportion. She was from Columbia. I have never seen a body like hers anywhere. She also had a very good attitude. I almost booked a trip as soon as I got home.I just can't do strip joints. For the same amount one pays for 2 songs a drink to see the pussy, I would have knocked her off with a BBBJ and I little strip tease. Fantasy over. I had strippers in my night spot on occasions. I remember guys after paying $100-$300 in lap dances and tips saying "Man I'm ready to FK something". They get hit in the head for another $100-$150 maybe.
Interesting. A dude who thinks someones representation on the boards is filled with non sensical babble, and brings up how biased members supposedly think of this individual, BUT is open to meeting him? Another example of poor judgement. When you are really ready to elevate your thinking beyond how you represent here, then get back to me.It's obvious you have something to hide and / or afraid to meet a fellow monger in Sosua. You have an automatic defense mechanism when someone say's something to you that you don't like. Your also arrogant beyond belief and have no sense of humor. I don't think you know how to let your hair-down and have a good time as evidenced by your posts. You have a "little man syndrome", your obviously short in area's and have to compensate for it with all your non-sensical babble. When your ready to meet up with a fellow monger and have some fun, get back to me!
I have never been one to steer anyone wrong about mongering. I would not recommend the average monger go to Bogota, Cali, Barranquilla, or expensive ass Cartagena. But Medellin is a horse of a different color. Now I will say that both me and my wingman speak Spanish which could make adventures more fun than trying to figure out what a chica is telling you or how to get your message across to her.
Mr. E I concur with your take on Colombia and Medellin, however I found Cali to be somewhat similar to Medellin but on a smaller scale and did have a good time there. And yes, for a monger with no Spanish skills, it can be difficult. Especially dealing with the Chicas in the Avenida De La Grief area of Medellin.
Been here for a few days and have to say either my mongering skills are going downhill or the Sosua chica union is getting to be too formidable for me to deal with anymore. I've never been one to advocate the "wifeing up" procedure but I'm getting to think that might be the answer to the consistently crappy rushed service I'm getting from these ladies. Perhaps finding one you are compatible with and sticking with her is the way to go. I've had several days to sample (pics to follow in a few days when I'm out of the country) several chicas and invariably they are promising more than they deliver, don't want to kiss, very little in any GFE, sometimes reluctant to let me DATY and in general a rushed and very businesslike pain in the ass. When I can drag the process out a little as soon as I nut they are practically BOUNCING out of the rack to jump in the shower and get their clothes back on and then hassle me about more money, propinas and motoconche money. I've honestly just about had it, and believe me, this ain't my first rodeo either here or in other well known mongering destinations. The only really good experience I've had so far is with a very plain looking chubby chica who I would NEVER give a second glance to; met her at a beach bar I hang out at and she was a friend of the owner and seemed sweet despite being "poco gordo"(a little fat). Ended up being totally GFE and a lot of fun in the rack and nice company for dinner. Proves that fat chicks need lovin too!!
I understand that these ladies are not professional courtesans and yes, they are human beings, too. I always try to treat them well and with respect but I've been comparing notes with other mongers here and seem to get a lot of the same story. Just seems I used to get better service for the most part in past years. Who knows, maybe it's me. I enjoy this place and will probably return but it sure isn't Thailand, let me tell you.
Staying at Mary Rose apartments this time and I CANNOT say enough good things about the property or Rick, the manager and owner. Really nice place.
SavePros321
01-19-15, 05:02
Been here for a few days and have to say either my mongering skills are going downhill or the Sosua chica union is getting to be too formidable for me to deal with anymore. I've never been one to advocate the "wifeing up" procedure but I'm getting to think that might be the answer to the consistently crappy rushed service I'm getting from these ladies. Perhaps finding one you are compatible with and sticking with her is the way to go. I've had several days to sample (pics to follow in a few days when I'm out of the country) several chicas and invariably they are promising more than they deliver, don't want to kiss, very little in any GFE, sometimes reluctant to let me DATY and in general a rushed and very businesslike pain in the ass. When I can drag the process out a little as soon as I nut they are practically BOUNCING out of the rack to jump in the shower and get their clothes back on and then hassle me about more money, propinas and motoconche money. I've honestly just about had it, and believe me, this ain't my first rodeo either here or in other well known mongering destinations.
I understand that these ladies are not professional courtesans and yes, they are human beings, too. I always try to treat them well and with respect but I've been comparing notes with other mongers here and seem to get a lot of the same story. Just seems I used to get better service for the most part in past years. Who knows, maybe it's me. I enjoy this place and will probably return but it sure isn't Thailand, let me tell you.
Sounds like it is time to head for greener pastures, and not necessarily going elsewhere. I think Surfer mentioned he had great success finding chicas online to come and visit him in Sosua. You are staying at Mary Rose, which is away from the main strip. This is good. Invite them to come to visit you, using the beach as a selling point. Just don't bring an out of town chica to a h0e barn like New Garden or any hotel near the strip for that matter. I would say a good number of folks in the DR know what goes on in Sosua, so no chica you invite there (who is not a pro) wants to be seen as a puta. The further away you are removed from the puta scene, the better. Maybe even consider double booking in Cabarette. That way if your online chica flakes or doesn't want to give up the toto on the first meet, you still have the pros on the Sosua strip to fall back to.
Oh, I wasn't suggesting to do all of this on your current trip. Just something to think about for next time.
Been here for a few days and have to say either my mongering skills are going downhill or the Sosua chica union is getting to be too formidable for me to deal with anymore. I've never been one to advocate the "wifeing up" procedure but I'm getting to think that might be the answer to the consistently crappy rushed service I'm getting from these ladies. Perhaps finding one you are compatible with and sticking with her is the way to go. I've had several days to sample (pics to follow in a few days when I'm out of the country) several chicas and invariably they are promising more than they deliver, don't want to kiss, very little in any GFE, sometimes reluctant to let me DATY and in general a rushed and very businesslike pain in the ass. When I can drag the process out a little as soon as I nut they are practically BOUNCING out of the rack to jump in the shower and get their clothes back on and then hassle me about more money, propinas and motoconche money. I've honestly just about had it, and believe me, this ain't my first rodeo either here or in other well known mongering destinations. The only really good experience I've had so far is with a very plain looking chubby chica who I would NEVER give a second glance to; met her at a beach bar I hang out at and she was a friend of the owner and seemed sweet despite being "poco gordo"(a little fat). Ended up being totally GFE and a lot of fun in the rack and nice company for dinner. Proves that fat chicks need lovin too!!
I understand that these ladies are not professional courtesans and yes, they are human beings, too. I always try to treat them well and with respect but I've been comparing notes with other mongers here and seem to get a lot of the same story. Just seems I used to get better service for the most part in past years. Who knows, maybe it's me. I enjoy this place and will probably return but it sure isn't Thailand, let me tell you.
Staying at Mary Rose apartments this time and I CANNOT say enough good things about the property or Rick, the manager and owner. Really nice place.I commend you for being brave enough to admit on this forum that you went with a fugly. I doubt most guys would do this. I'll be on the ground in Sosua tomorrow and will be wifeing up for part of the trip and doing some sport-fucking as well. This works for me as I get all the GFE I can handle along with some variety.
I understand that these ladies are not professional courtesans and yes, they are human beings, too. I always try to treat them well and with respect but I've been comparing notes with other mongers here and seem to get a lot of the same story. Just seems I used to get better service for the most part in past years. Who knows, maybe it's me. I enjoy this place and will probably return but it sure isn't Thailand, let me tell you.
.Yo Zip are you hunting in Rumbas? I find the place to be full of hardcores and quick fucks. I don't like the vibe.
Hi all,
Went to Sosua for a couple of days for my first P4P trip. Now back home and consolidating my notes right now. Much to talk about. I don't have any comparable to other destinations or even Sosua to of previous years, but I have much to talk about my time there. Hopefully it would be of value to someone else reading this forum. Even with all the reading and preparations, I made many mistakes, some repeatedly which is quite embarrassing. Sosua can be completely crazy. A constant cycle to breaking my ego, not meeting expectations, getting frustrated, pleasant surprises, good times, and lucky breaks. Overall it was one of the most memorable mixed experiences I ever had. I have to say I felt I was very fortunate on my trip. And thank you for those who assisted one way or the other. I will post my report well before the Superbowl weekend so you guys can have some tips before you go.
My new motto. "You can't conquers Sosua. You can only experience it. "
Yo Zip are you hunting in Rumbas? I find the place to be full of hardcores and quick fucks. I don't like the vibe.I just got back from Sosua yesterday. Right now, Rumba is ground zero for night action in sosua and I didn't find any other spot that comes close. Day action can be found in other ways, but more on that later to stay on topic. I've only seen Classico packed with good chicas only one night out of my stay. During the weekdays, just a few tourists dancing with their friends amongst themselves which looks kinda sad. Plus it's the Rumba chichas moving to Classico anyway, so the same chicas.
It's best to see Rumba as a Blackjack table that pays out in good / bad chicas or good / bad pussy. As you can hit, stay, split, double up, and use strategies to up your odds in blackjack, you have some controls to up your odds to get good chicas as well. Interviewing, observing, moving around, dance, buy / deny drinks and see how chicas react, have a pleasant conversation if you speak Spanish, negotiate really hard on price and so on.
Also, another hidden factor is that all the chichas are watching all the guys / potential customers in Rumbas. Far more chicas in Rumba than there are men, most of the chicas are just sitting in their chairs watching you. They know what you drink, how much can you drink, how much you already drank, do you have a ego, are you fun, are you annoying, can you dance, how much money you spend, which chica you took out already, how long you took her out and everything you did the previous nights. Some of the chicas already knew my hotel room before I even got to Rumba. Rumor mill does work overtime in Sosua whether it is accurate or not.
Ultimately, it is random chance. You can have 20 bad chicas in a row as you can have 20 good chicas in a row. Even one bad chica is demoralizing. Like the house always wins in blackjack, bad chicas happen. Time, energy, and money wasted. And if she is hitting you up for more money or having shitty attitude in 3 am, it really sucks. The fact that you have to pony up the money just to find out if you have a bad chica again is something to make any man pause. Just like blackjack you have to pay to play again.
On a brighter note, not only did I have bad WTF moments from Rumba chicas, I found my best "wow, you really exist" chicas in Rumba. Unlike blackjack you get to keep the good chicas in your rotation. And I can tell you for certain, that is a beautiful thing.
Yo Zip are you hunting in Rumbas? I find the place to be full of hardcores and quick fucks. I don't like the vibe.Yes Rumba's yielded one shark and one decent chica. The chicas who hang out just outside the door to the place are even worse, but I've had enough self control not to sample them. Rumba chicas are like the predators in Predator vs Alien. They size you up with laser and infrared assisted eyeballs and home in for the kill without remorse!
Yes Rumba's yielded one shark and one decent chica. The chicas who hang out just outside the door to the place are even worse, but I've had enough self control not to sample them. Rumba chicas are like the predators in Predator vs Alien. They size you up with laser and infrared assisted eyeballs and home in for the kill without remorse!Damn you hit a Home Run on that simile. But I would say more like the Alien. At least the Predator had a little honor in doing their job. LOL.
Been here for a few days and have to say either my mongering skills are going downhill or the Sosua chica union is getting to be too formidable for me to deal with anymore. I've never been one to advocate the "wifeing up" procedure but I'm getting to think that might be the answer to the consistently crappy rushed service I'm getting from these ladies. Perhaps finding one you are compatible with and sticking with her is the way to go. I've had several days to sample (pics to follow in a few days when I'm out of the country) several chicas and invariably they are promising more than they deliver, don't want to kiss, very little in any GFE, sometimes reluctant to let me DATY and in general a rushed and very businesslike pain in the ass. When I can drag the process out a little as soon as I nut they are practically BOUNCING out of the rack to jump in the shower and get their clothes back on and then hassle me about more money, propinas and motoconche money. I've honestly just about had it, and believe me, this ain't my first rodeo either here or in other well known mongering destinations. The only really good experience I've had so far is with a very plain looking chubby chica who I would NEVER give a second glance to; met her at a beach bar I hang out at and she was a friend of the owner and seemed sweet despite being "poco gordo"(a little fat). Ended up being totally GFE and a lot of fun in the rack and nice company for dinner. Proves that fat chicks need lovin too!!
I understand that these ladies are not professional courtesans and yes, they are human beings, too. I always try to treat them well and with respect but I've been comparing notes with other mongers here and seem to get a lot of the same story. Just seems I used to get better service for the most part in past years. Who knows, maybe it's me. I enjoy this place and will probably return but it sure isn't Thailand, let me tell you.
Staying at Mary Rose apartments this time and I CANNOT say enough good things about the property or Rick, the manager and owner. Really nice place.Sosua is good for what it can provide. Now it may be more of a challenge to find chicas that give what you pay for. But they are out there, even in Sosua. There are several factors that become important. One is the amount of time one has to monger when they come. A dude with only a few days to 2 weeks, may be pressed to try to make the most of his time in Sosua. That can lead to making hasty decisions in selecting chicas. Another drawback, is not getting quality intel from ones own observations of chicas or the observations or experiences of other mongers.
I have spent a lot of time in the DR in the last 4 yrs. I have stayed sometimes 7 weeks, 5 months, and averaged 3 weeks per visit. In that time, I have got used to seeing many of the chicas when they got started and those that have been in it awhile. I have very little interest in getting with any of those chicas. They are like fixtures in Sosua. So if I do partake, I'm looking for new faces that come to Sosua to work. And this is where I can enjoy what Sosua has to offer and eliminate much of the frustration that guys are experiencing.
Aside from that, many guys that are fixtures here as well, seek outside of Sosua for talent. Something many guys with only a few days on vacation will NOT be doing. So in essence guys only know Sosua, and so they pick from what is there. I have heard some guys say that someof the chicas they met in Sosua, if you interact with them in a non PFP environment, the chicas don't act the same way. So in essence there is something to be said about how the vibe and construct in Sosua molds and shapes the behavior of everybody (mongers and chicas).
Many guys drawbacks to venturing away from Sosua is due to poor command of spanish. Not really interested in getting into the culture. Not really having time to cultivate a connection because they have wives and girlfriends back home. All in all, I would suggest a guy hold onto those chicas that do a good job. And consider having them as regulars, and have enough of them so you can rotate them for varieties sake. Enjoy them for as long as that will last. They may not be available the next time you come. Or they may change on you. Be willing to go to other areas of the DR to meet chicas. If it works for you, use latin dating websites. If you seek out ladies that actually work or are seriously going to school, you may make a great connection. But if you pick girls that are unemployed, or pretending to be students and have nothing going for themselves, be prepared to waste your time and/or money. Don't blame it on the website, blame it on the type of chicas you settle on meeting.
Overall, a monger that stays here for an extended period can often do better finding quality performance consistently, than a guy with little time and unlucky. Sometimes thats all it is. Being lucky choosing a chica and being pleasantly surprised.
Sosua is like fast food places. You can satisfy your hunger but do not think your are getting 5 star restaurant service. WRX is right the regulars have one thing in mind. They need to get paid so they can eat. They see 100's of guys every week. If you can find a fresh chica you have a chance for a better response. The hard core girls a more aggressive. They have a game they play to get you excited but become non performers once in the room with you. Rumba attracts scores of these girls.
If you are a short timer on the scene then you are more at risk of pulling a stinker. You can find some excellent talent but it takes patients and practice. If you want GFE you have to earn it. You need to repeat with the girl and maybe have a meal with her. The week end warriors set the tone that the girls live by. Once they become hard they are difficult to crack. In truth hardcore girls work for most sport fuckers to Sosua. If you go to a casa are you expecting GFE. NOOO! Same is true for Sosua. In Sosua you will see a couple 100 putas in one place. Every one of then will let you have sex for a small price. I like to have a basic relationship with the girls I deal with. I like seeing them again and we both want to hook back up. The girls are very sharp and see way more then we do. Most are willing give more if they feel you are willing to do more. Your choice quality or quantity. You can have either but it hard to have both. . .
MexBrown50
01-19-15, 19:09
I just got back from Sosua yesterday. Right now, Rumba is ground zero for night action in sosua and I didn't find any other spot that comes close. Day action can be found in other ways, but more on that later to stay on topic. I've only seen Classico packed with good chicas only one night out of my stay. During the weekdays, just a few tourists dancing with their friends amongst themselves which looks kinda sad. Plus it's the Rumba chichas moving to Classico anyway, so the same chicas.
It's best to see Rumba as a Blackjack table that pays out in good / bad chicas or good / bad pussy. As you can hit, stay, split, double up, and use strategies to up your odds in blackjack, you have some controls to up your odds to get good chicas as well. Interviewing, observing, moving around, dance, buy / deny drinks and see how chicas react, have a pleasant conversation if you speak Spanish, negotiate really hard on price and so on.
Also, another hidden factor is that all the chichas are watching all the guys / potential customers in Rumbas. Far more chicas in Rumba than there are men, most of the chicas are just sitting in their chairs watching you. They know what you drink, how much can you drink, how much you already drank, do you have a ego, are you fun, are you annoying, can you dance, how much money you spend, which chica you took out already, how long you took her out and everything you did the previous nights. Some of the chicas already knew my hotel room before I even got to Rumba. Rumor mill does work overtime in Sosua whether it is accurate or not..Yes Black43, Right now I am in Sosua on ground. Some chicas are on the street / every fucking thing you want and every way you want. Once they come to your room they show true colors by taking their mask off. I had only one encounter so far. But I paid and kicked her out the door. The thing with me is I always stick to 1000 pesos per ST and no propina and no motoconcho ride money. No way from me. They call me cheap and bull shit to play with my head (bighead) and give me looks. Anyways, I am not looking for a great relationship, two hour. Not me. If the chica so good I had a sex machine once, and she has been servicing me so far. And I buy her food, some drinks cheap and sometimes good propina. But that's me.
This is my bottom line: chicas opinion of me for being cheap, is equivalent to toilet paper to me. I wipe and throw in the toilet, her opinion.
I am not a heartless man. I am discriminating fucker.
Thanks for the report.
I will be leaving end of this week. This is my first trip. I only had a week.
Take care you all.
Sosua is good for what it can provide. Now it may be more of a challenge to find chicas that give what you pay for. But they are out there, even in Sosua. There are several factors that become important. One is the amount of time one has to monger when they come. A dude with only a few days to 2 weeks, may be pressed to try to make the most of his time in Sosua. That can lead to making hasty decisions in selecting chicas. Another drawback, is not getting quality intel from ones own observations of chicas or the observations or experiences of other mongers.
I have spent a lot of time in the DR in the last 4 yrs. I have stayed sometimes 7 weeks, 5 months, and averaged 3 weeks per visit. In that time, I have got used to seeing many of the chicas when they got started and those that have been in it awhile. I have very little interest in getting with any of those chicas. They are like fixtures in Sosua. So if I do partake, I'm looking for new faces that come to Sosua to work. And this is where I can enjoy what Sosua has to offer and eliminate much of the frustration that guys are experiencing.
Aside from that, many guys that are fixtures here as well, seek outside of Sosua for talent. Something many guys with only a few days on vacation will NOT be doing. So in essence guys only know Sosua, and so they pick from what is there. I have heard some guys say that someof the chicas they met in Sosua, if you interact with them in a non PFP environment, the chicas don't act the same way. So in essence there is something to be said about how the vibe and construct in Sosua molds and shapes the behavior of everybody (mongers and chicas).
Many guys drawbacks to venturing away from Sosua is due to poor command of spanish. Not really interested in getting into the culture. Not really having time to cultivate a connection because they have wives and girlfriends back home. All in all, I would suggest a guy hold onto those chicas that do a good job. And consider having them as regulars, and have enough of them so you can rotate them for varieties sake. Enjoy them for as long as that will last. They may not be available the next time you come. Or they may change on you. Be willing to go to other areas of the DR to meet chicas. If it works for you, use latin dating websites. If you seek out ladies that actually work or are seriously going to school, you may make a great connection. But if you pick girls that are unemployed, or pretending to be students and have nothing going for themselves, be prepared to waste your time and/or money. Don't blame it on the website, blame it on the type of chicas you settle on meeting.
Overall, a monger that stays here for an extended period can often do better finding quality performance consistently, than a guy with little time and unlucky. Sometimes thats all it is. Being lucky choosing a chica and being pleasantly surprised.Good advice!
If I had taken the time to research and collect the most popular posts in this forum including some of my own, and repeated them above. I couldn't have said it better. :)
ForceSteeler
01-19-15, 20:18
If you go to a casa are you expecting GFE. NOOO! Same is true for Sosua. In Sosua you will see a couple 100 putas in one place. Every one of then will let you have sex for a small price. I like to have a basic relationship with the girls I deal with. I like seeing them again and we both want to hook back up. The girls are very sharp and see way more then we do. Most are willing give more if they feel you are willing to do more. Your choice quality or quantity. You can have either but it hard to have both. . .Not true, I have been to Casas in Brazil and the Girls give you GFE. The difference is with Brazil girls that get into the puta game, they take pride in it, and they love what they do. They will do everything to impress you, hoping that you will repeat another session.
Dominican mindset is to take as much as they can get now without thinking about tomorrow.
I just got back from Sosua yesterday. Right now, Rumba is ground zero for night action in sosua and I didn't find any other spot that comes close. Day action can be found in other ways, but more on that later to stay on topic. I've only seen Classico packed with good chicas only one night out of my stay. During the weekdays, just a few tourists dancing with their friends amongst themselves which looks kinda sad. Plus it's the Rumba chichas moving to Classico anyway, so the same chicas.
It's best to see Rumba as a Blackjack table that pays out in good / bad chicas or good / bad pussy. As you can hit, stay, split, double up, and use strategies to up your odds in blackjack, you have some controls to up your odds to get good chicas as well. Interviewing, observing, moving around, dance, buy / deny drinks and see how chicas react, have a pleasant conversation if you speak Spanish, negotiate really hard on price and so on.
Also, another hidden factor is that all the chichas are watching all the guys / potential customers in Rumbas. Far more chicas in Rumba than there are men, most of the chicas are just sitting in their chairs watching you. They know what you drink, how much can you drink, how much you already drank, do you have a ego, are you fun, are you annoying, can you dance, how much money you spend, which chica you took out already, how long you took her out and everything you did the previous nights. Some of the chicas already knew my hotel room before I even got to Rumba. Rumor mill does work overtime in Sosua whether it is accurate or not.
Ultimately, it is random chance. You can have 20 bad chicas in a row as you can have 20 good chicas in a row. Even one bad chica is demoralizing. Like the house always wins in blackjack, bad chicas happen. Time, energy, and money wasted. And if she is hitting you up for more money or having shitty attitude in 3 am, it really sucks. The fact that you have to pony up the money just to find out if you have a bad chica again is something to make any man pause. Just like blackjack you have to pay to play again.
On a brighter note, not only did I have bad WTF moments from Rumba chicas, I found my best "wow, you really exist" chicas in Rumba. Unlike blackjack you get to keep the good chicas in your rotation. And I can tell you for certain, that is a beautiful thing.The action varies a lot from week to week, season to season, day to day, so it's hard to generalize, but I think you have generally nailed what Sosua is all about these days.
You are right on with the quick pick ups, it's a coin toss, but with a little set up time, by the time you get to your 20 chicas, you should be able to get those odds in your favor.
Then, like me, you'll not only be sayin', "Wow, she really exists", but at the airport on your way out, It'll be. Wow, Sosua really exists!
Post more on your day time stuff.
Yes Black43, Right now I am in Sosua on ground. Some chicas are on the street / every fucking thing you want and every way you want. Once they come to your room they show true colors by taking their mask off. I had only one encounter so far. But I paid and kicked her out the door. The thing with me is I always stick to 1000 pesos per ST and no propina and no motoconcho ride money. No way from me. They call me cheap and bull shit to play with my head (bighead) and give me looks. Anyways, I am not looking for a great relationship, two hour. Not me. If the chica so good I had a sex machine once, and she has been servicing me so far. And I buy her food, some drinks cheap and sometimes good propina. But that's me.
This is my bottom line: chicas opinion of me for being cheap, is equivalent to toilet paper to me. I wipe and throw in the toilet, her opinion.
I am not a heartless man. I am discriminating fucker.
Thanks for the report.
I will be leaving end of this week. This is my first trip. I only had a week.
Take care you all.LOL you are cheap though. A lot of guys complaining about shitty service but want to give the girls bottom dollar. What motivation do they have besides the measly 20 dollars your giving them for the deed. I'm not saying you should overpay but stick to the standard and you might have better sessions. From my experience st 1500-2000 tln 2000-3000 ymmv. I fall into the category of the sports fucker. I could care less about GFE it actually creeps me out. I like the girls to be friendly but don't want them kissing me or holding my hand other BS. After I nut I want them to leave unless I'm preparing to go for another round. I go for quality and am willing to pay more to get it but to each his own.
Anyway, I have set out to work on many of my shortcomings. Thats a mission in life. We all do it. Very often I take the time out to also help those in denial of theirs. Especially when it comes to dealing with PFP women.You have lots of hats here in Sosua, DR. Phil and now Mother Teresa for mongers. Arrogant beyond belief, and what's sad is you don't even realize it.
Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences pulling off the Strip and side streets. The festivities actually began on last. Friday when I crossed the border into Tijuana, Mexico and spent the weekend with my Mexican squeeze who I banged 6 times. I then crossed back into the US and flew to JFK Sunday evening and took the flight this morning into Puerto Plata. The flight arrived early and when I arrived I picked up my rental car and checked into CC, cashed some money, hit the market, and set my room up. Walked around town thinking I might grab something before dinner but decided against as I was a walking zombie having gotten no sleep all night after flying 9 hours to get here. After dinner I felt better and decided I'd grab a Chica and call it a night. Left the hotel and walked by New Garden and passed a girl with big knockers and a bigger ass, somewhat plain faced, not ugly, and not fat. I inspected the merchandise and found all the curves appealing to me. This is because my Mexican squeeze is a petite little spinner and this was very different then my weekend in Tijuana. So the chit chat started and she remarked how she liked the color of my hair and beard. That was a new one and I told her that lots of girls say nice things on the street but can be a dead fish in the room and hurry things. She swore to me she was not that way, liked too be caressed, etc. She sounded sincere so I asked how much for a "rato" and she said 1,500 Pesos. I told her I would giver her 1,200 Pesos and a tip for good service so off we went. In the room she was quite sexy shaking her booty around and lit up like a Christmas tree after I gave her a massage. Her blow job wasn't the greatest but she had nice moves and got off a couple of times as she actually squirted a little bit. It took a while for me to finish having not slept much but said to take all the time I wanted. Very loving, into touching, being held, etc. She walked out with 1,500 pesos. After this I decided to walk around the Strip and hung around Central Bar, went past Rumbas checking things out. I noticed a thin taller darker Chica that is my favorite body type. Slender with a little bubble gum butt and be cups. She walked by and I asked her what's up and she said she was going to have a beer and kept walking. That was kind of strange, what are these girls doing there unless there looking for customers. I waited a minute and then decided to find her. She was in the bar opposite Rumbas and I had her come outside so I could talk with her. She had a cute face and I was turned on looking at her body. Turns out she was half Haitian and half Dominican. Only an hour and a half had passed after being with the last one and was concerned that I might not be able to finish with her, I was also concerned she would have "saggy tit syndrome" prevalent on a lot of these Haitian Chicas. So the negotiations began and she asked for 2,000 Pesos. No way Jose, I told her I was going to take a walk and she said how much so I told her 1,250 Pesos and a possible tip. She said lets go. We got in the room and she hopped in the shower. I decided to hop in with her and what do you know, no saggy tits, however she had told me she had one three year old and had a see Section. Bingo, I knew at that point I was going to finish with this one. I gave her a limited massage and then she started stroking me and then asked for a condom. I then said what about a blow job. She said okay and was reluctant to do it without but did, and then reversed herself and wanted me to go down on her as well. At this point I did and then she really go into it. I finally donned the condom and oh my was she ever tight and into squealing, etc. She did a number on me and walked out with 1, 500 pesos as well. Will probably do her again tomorrow and then wife up with my Haitian later in the week who's an animal as well. The surfs up and I will be hitting Playa Encuentro in the morning.
Tempoecorto
01-20-15, 05:51
Once they come to your room they show true colors by taking their mask off.
This is my bottom line: chicas opinion of me for being cheap, is equivalent to toilet paper to me. I wipe and throw in the toilet, her opinion.A wise person said, "Smile and the world will smile back at you". Your opinion of chicas and their reaction to you, are completely in line with that.
She did a number on me and walked out with 1, 500 pesos as well. Will probably do her again tomorrow and then wife up with my Haitian later in the week who's an animal as well. The surfs up and I will be hitting Playa Encuentro in the morning.Nice "Boots on the ground" report!
Thanks!
What you pay and everything else is different in Brazil. Go to a DR Casa and tell me you got GFE. I just checked flights to Rio 1200 including the visa. That is what I pay for a week in Sosua.
Not true, I have been to Casas in Brazil and the Girls give you GFE. The difference is with Brazil girls that get into the puta game, they take pride in it, and they love what they do. They will do everything to impress you, hoping that you will repeat another session.
Dominican mindset is to take as much as they can get now without thinking about tomorrow.
Dominican mindset is to take as much as they can get now without thinking about tomorrow.That is the mindset with many working girls all over the world, not just the DR.
Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences pulling off the Strip and side streets. The festivities actually began on last. Friday when I crossed the border into Tijuana, Mexico and spent the weekend with my Mexican squeeze who I banged 6 times. I then crossed back into the US and flew to JFK Sunday evening and took the flight this morning into Puerto Plata. The flight arrived early and when I arrived I picked up my rental car and checked into CC, cashed some money, hit the market, and set my room up. Walked around town thinking I might grab something before dinner but decided against as I was a walking zombie having gotten no sleep all night after flying 9 hours to get here. After dinner I felt better and decided I'd grab a Chica and call it a night. Left the hotel and walked by New Garden and passed a girl with big knockers and a bigger ass, somewhat plain faced, not ugly, and not fat. I inspected the merchandise and found all the curves appealing to me. This is because my Mexican squeeze is a petite little spinner and this was very different then my weekend in Tijuana. So the chit chat started and she remarked how she liked the color of my hair and beard. That was a new one and I told her that lots of girls say nice things on the street but can be a dead fish in the room and hurry things. She swore to me she was not that way, liked too be caressed, etc. She sounded sincere so I asked how much for a "rato" and she said 1,500 Pesos. I told her I would giver her 1,200 Pesos and a tip for good service so off we went. In the room she was quite sexy shaking her booty around and lit up like a Christmas tree after I gave her a massage. Her blow job wasn't the greatest but she had nice moves and got off a couple of times as she actually squirted a little bit. It took a while for me to finish having not slept much but said to take all the time I wanted. Very loving, into touching, being held, etc. She walked out with 1,500 pesos. After this I decided to walk around the Strip and hung around Central Bar, went past Rumbas checking things out. I noticed a thin taller darker Chica that is my favorite body type. Slender with a little bubble gum butt and be cups. She walked by and I asked her what's up and she said she was going to have a beer and kept walking. That was kind of strange, what are these girls doing there unless there looking for customers. I waited a minute and then decided to find her. She was in the bar opposite Rumbas and I had her come outside so I could talk with her. She had a cute face and I was turned on looking at her body. Turns out she was half Haitian and half Dominican. Only an hour and a half had passed after being with the last one and was concerned that I might not be able to finish with her, I was also concerned she would have "saggy tit syndrome" prevalent on a lot of these Haitian Chicas. So the negotiations began and she asked for 2,000 Pesos. No way Jose, I told her I was going to take a walk and she said how much so I told her 1,250 Pesos and a possible tip. She said lets go. We got in the room and she hopped in the shower. I decided to hop in with her and what do you know, no saggy tits, however she had told me she had one three year old and had a see Section. Bingo, I knew at that point I was going to finish with this one. I gave her a limited massage and then she started stroking me and then asked for a condom. I then said what about a blow job. She said okay and was reluctant to do it without but did, and then reversed herself and wanted me to go down on her as well. At this point I did and then she really go into it. I finally donned the condom and oh my was she ever tight and into squealing, etc. She did a number on me and walked out with 1, 500 pesos as well. Will probably do her again tomorrow and then wife up with my Haitian later in the week who's an animal as well. The surfs up and I will be hitting Playa Encuentro in the morning.Good report!
Almost like being there.
Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences pulling off the Strip and side streets. The festivities actually began on last. Friday when I crossed the border into Tijuana, Mexico and spent the weekend with my Mexican squeeze who I banged 6 times. I then crossed back into the US and flew to JFK Sunday evening and took the flight this morning into Puerto Plata. The flight arrived early and when I arrived I picked up my rental car and checked into CC, cashed some money, hit the market, and set my room up. Walked around town thinking I might grab something before dinner but decided against as I was a walking zombie having gotten no sleep all night after flying 9 hours to get here. After dinner I felt better and decided I'd grab a Chica and call it a night. Left the hotel and walked by New Garden and passed a girl with big knockers and a bigger ass, somewhat plain faced, not ugly, and not fat. I inspected the merchandise and found all the curves appealing to me. This is because my Mexican squeeze is a petite little spinner and this was very different then my weekend in Tijuana. So the chit chat started and she remarked how she liked the color of my hair and beard. That was a new one and I told her that lots of girls say nice things on the street but can be a dead fish in the room and hurry things. She swore to me she was not that way, liked too be caressed, etc. She sounded sincere so I asked how much for a "rato" and she said 1,500 Pesos. I told her I would giver her 1,200 Pesos and a tip for good service so off we went. In the room she was quite sexy shaking her booty around and lit up like a Christmas tree after I gave her a massage. Her blow job wasn't the greatest but she had nice moves and got off a couple of times as she actually squirted a little bit. It took a while for me to finish having not slept much but said to take all the time I wanted. Very loving, into touching, being held, etc. She walked out with 1,500 pesos. After this I decided to walk around the Strip and hung around Central Bar, went past Rumbas checking things out. I noticed a thin taller darker Chica that is my favorite body type. Slender with a little bubble gum butt and be cups. .Will be in Sosua this weekend. I normally rent a SUV from in Sosua for around $30/ day. Checked online I saw that renting a car from the airport (compact car) can be had for about $20/ day. How much did you pay I understand that the $20 is the base price not including insurance. I do not have a credit card which includes car insurance so I guess I would have to pay more. Or can I just rent the car for the $20 with some type of hold on it on the credit card.
PvrFederico
01-20-15, 20:34
Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences.I've been in Dominican Republic for ten days -- four nights in Santo Domingo, three in Sosua, and three in Juan Dolio. I have two more nights here, and then my last two nights in Boca Chica. I've been laid twice during this trip and have never paid a dime. I don't drink and I don't go to clubs, but free sex is available everywhere. For example, this morning during breakfast, the waitress who has waited on me for the last three days asked me if I was married or had a girl friend. When I explained that I was a widower without a girlfriend, she asked me if she could give me her telephone number. I accepted. She is 37 and attractive. The young woman (very attractive) who cleans my room just did the same thing. I am a US citizen, but I speak good (proper) Spanish. This probably helps me, but I am here for the history and the beaches, so sex is not priority #1.
When I was in Sosua, I saw some of the sexiest Latinas that I've ever seen. I also saw some of the ugliest, overweight foreign men (mostly German) that I've ever seen in one location. I assume that guys who can't get laid without paying come to Sosua. That's fine with me, but, that's not "sport fucking. " It's commerce.
Will be in Sosua this weekend. I normally rent a SUV from in Sosua for around $30/ day. Checked online I saw that renting a car from the airport (compact car) can be had for about $20/ day. How much did you pay I understand that the $20 is the base price not including insurance. I do not have a credit card which includes car insurance so I guess I would have to pay more. Or can I just rent the car for the $20 with some type of hold on it on the credit card.I did something I had never done before on this trip. I rented a car from OKAY Motors in Sosua. They met me at the airport with the car and took me to there office in Sosua. I rented the smallest car they had which was about $ 35 a day including all insurance with no deductible. While doing the paperwork I pointed out some minor dents in the fenders and they said not to worry about it as everything was covered 100 %. In other words I guess I could wreck the car and have no out of pocket expenses. When I showed up at their office I gave them my passport which they made a copy of and a credit card and told hem I would be paying cash. They took the money and didn't even bother swiping my card. I could of rented a car for cheaper but with the 100% deductible and free pick up and drop off at he airport upon my departure I don't think you canbeat that. You should try to avoid using a credit card if you can when renting a car, and if anyone tells you have to leave your Passport walk out! Good Luck.
What a gaggle this afternoon in Sosua. La Policia set up a DR style check point at the intersection on the Strip between the Bermuda Bar and Rumbas. The police began randomly pulling over all Moto-Concho drivers not wearing Helmets, (Cosco I think in Spanish). They also had some flatbed trucks which held about 20 Moto-Conchos each that they where loading the Moto-Conchos onto and hauling away. It appeared as though not all of the drivers not wearing helmets Moto-Conchos were taken. Those had to be the ones with some dinero in their pockets that they gave to the cops. There where groups of drivers whose Moto-Conchos were taken that where pretty distraught over all of this. Some where in tears as it seems as though they might not ever get them back.
You have lots of hats here in Sosua, DR. Phil and now Mother Teresa for mongers. Arrogant beyond belief, and what's sad is you don't even realize it.I couldn't said it better myself! Thank you for reporting. I too have tired of this wind bag!
RR.
The gentlemen on this site are about having sex with attractive young women. If we spend 10 days and have sex twice we are extremely unhappy. We are not coming to the DR for culture but for young pussy. Getting two freebies after paying a $1000 bucks to get there would not make any of us happy.
I've been in Dominican Republic for ten days -- four nights in Santo Domingo, three in Sosua, and three in Juan Dolio. I have two more nights here, and then my last two nights in Boca Chica. I've been laid twice during this trip and have never paid a dime. I don't drink and I don't go to clubs, but free sex is available everywhere. For example, this morning during breakfast, the waitress who has waited on me for the last three days asked me if I was married or had a girl friend. When I explained that I was a widower without a girlfriend, she asked me if she could give me her telephone number. I accepted. She is 37 and attractive. The young woman (very attractive) who cleans my room just did the same thing. I am a US citizen, but I speak good (proper) Spanish. This probably helps me, but I am here for the history and the beaches, so sex is not priority #1.
When I was in Sosua, I saw some of the sexiest Latinas that I've ever seen. I also saw some of the ugliest, overweight foreign men (mostly German) that I've ever seen in one location. I assume that guys who can't get laid without paying come to Sosua. That's fine with me, but, that's not "sport fucking. " It's commerce.
Coming from Toronto Canada wanted to know on the ground what the exchange rate is for USD and CAD.
Thank you
I did something I had never done before on this trip. I rented a car from OKAY Motors in Sosua. They met me at the airport with the car and took me to there office in Sosua. I rented the smallest car they had which was about $ 35 a day including all insurance with no deductible. While doing the paperwork I pointed out some minor dents in the fenders and they said not to worry about it as everything was covered 100 %. In other words I guess I could wreck the car and have no out of pocket expenses. When I showed up at their office I gave them my passport which they made a copy of and a credit card and told hem I would be paying cash. They took the money and didn't even bother swiping my card. I could of rented a car for cheaper but with the 100% deductible and free pick up and drop off at he airport upon my departure I don't think you canbeat that. You should try to avoid using a credit card if you can when renting a car, and if anyone tells you have to leave your Passport walk out! Good Luck.Surfer, I had the same experience about a month ago while staying in Cabarete. I paid the extra $ for full insurance. You may have had the small silver Kia.
The free airport drop off paid for 1 day. Nice people in the office.
LOL you are cheap though. A lot of guys complaining about shitty service but want to give the girls bottom dollar. What motivation do they have besides the measly 20 dollars your giving them for the deed. I'm not saying you should overpay but stick to the standard and you might have better sessions. From my experience st 1500-2000 tln 2000-3000 ymmv. I fall into the category of the sports fucker. I could care less about GFE it actually creeps me out. I like the girls to be friendly but don't want them kissing me or holding my hand other BS. After I nut I want them to leave unless I'm preparing to go for another round. I go for quality and am willing to pay more to get it but to each his own.The amount you pay doesn't count for service. It all depend on the chica.
Sosua is like fast food places. You can satisfy your hunger but do not think your are getting 5 star restaurant service. WRX is right the regulars have one thing in mind. They need to get paid so they can eat. They see 100's of guys every week. If you can find a fresh chica you have a chance for a better response. The hard core girls a more aggressive. They have a game they play to get you excited but become non performers once in the room with you. Rumba attracts scores of these girls.
If you are a short timer on the scene then you are more at risk of pulling a stinker. You can find some excellent talent but it takes patients and practice. If you want GFE you have to earn it. You need to repeat with the girl and maybe have a meal with her. The week end warriors set the tone that the girls live by. Once they become hard they are difficult to crack. In truth hardcore girls work for most sport fuckers to Sosua. If you go to a casa are you expecting GFE. NOOO! Same is true for Sosua. In Sosua you will see a couple 100 putas in one place. Every one of then will let you have sex for a small price. I like to have a basic relationship with the girls I deal with. I like seeing them again and we both want to hook back up. The girls are very sharp and see way more then we do. Most are willing give more if they feel you are willing to do more. Your choice quality or quantity. You can have either but it hard to have both. . .
Good advice!
If I had taken the time to research and collect the most popular posts in this forum including some of my own, and repeated them above. I couldn't have said it better. :)Thanks fellas, and for the input! I can relate to what you both say. I recall where I was in the beginning to where I am now. Now I laugh to myself as I patrol around Sosua knowing a little or a lot about many of the fixture chicas in Sosua. Not that I had them all, but enough of them. What also helped is the gathered intel from many mongers willing to share their knowledge or experiences.
Whats also interesting, is how many of the chicas are inter connected with each other. Depending on what happens with one chica may reflect on how the other chicas in her posse relate to you. Dudes are watched and studied by posses of chicas, all day and night. Thats why I don't like to rush or be too hasty grabbing a chica. I like to give them time to run their sales pitch if they have one. I prefer seeking out the fresher, less tainted appearing chicas. The ones that are less business like. Those are preferred, over many of the fine looking fixture chicas or the 5 inch heeled diva chicas (that only come out after 10 pm). Having regulars is great when not seeking new talent.
I just got back from Sosua yesterday. Right now, Rumba is ground zero for night action in sosua and I didn't find any other spot that comes close. Day action can be found in other ways, but more on that later to stay on topic. I've only seen Classico packed with good chicas only one night out of my stay. During the weekdays, just a few tourists dancing with their friends amongst themselves which looks kinda sad. Plus it's the Rumba chichas moving to Classico anyway, so the same chicas.
It's best to see Rumba as a Blackjack table that pays out in good / bad chicas or good / bad pussy. As you can hit, stay, split, double up, and use strategies to up your odds in blackjack, you have some controls to up your odds to get good chicas as well. Interviewing, observing, moving around, dance, buy / deny drinks and see how chicas react, have a pleasant conversation if you speak Spanish, negotiate really hard on price and so on.
Also, another hidden factor is that all the chichas are watching all the guys / potential customers in Rumbas. Far more chicas in Rumba than there are men, most of the chicas are just sitting in their chairs watching you. They know what you drink, how much can you drink, how much you already drank, do you have a ego, are you fun, are you annoying, can you dance, how much money you spend, which chica you took out already, how long you took her out and everything you did the previous nights. Some of the chicas already knew my hotel room before I even got to Rumba. Rumor mill does work overtime in Sosua whether it is accurate or not..In the 5 months that just past (took a break late December until now), one of the things me and few guys have experienced and observed are chicas coming to work on their periods / menstruation. Coming on it, not finished with it, or knee deep in it, but trying to hide it. Thats bad for a dude who has certain things he wants to do with a chica (DATY, kissing, BBBJ etc). Not too many chicas are going to be relaxed and performance driven if they are trying to pull off working on their periods.
It's to the point, I try to find out when they had their periods. I'll get on the subject, by making conversation in order to get the information. I may ask them if they have pain and how long it lasts when they are menstruating. And maybe when it was last or expected. If she indicates she's ready (no period) for me now, any surprises later on will result in dismissal, severe reduction in income, and / or no repeat business. Regulars try to pull that crap from time to time too. Thats why I get their menstruation dates/info straight before they come. If they can't perform fully, I rather get someone who is 100% ready.
What you pay and everything else is different in Brazil. Go to a DR Casa and tell me you got GFE. I just checked flights to Rio 1200 including the visa. That is what I pay for a week in Sosua.Ofcourse you are going to pay more for a flight to Rio, it takes 3 times farther than Sosua in terms of time.
In the 5 months that just past (took a break late December until now), one of the things me and few guys have experienced and observed are chicas coming to work on their periods / menstruation. Coming on it, not finished with it, or knee deep in it, but trying to hide it. Thats bad for a dude who has certain things he wants to do with a chica (DATY, kissing, BBBJ etc). Not too many chicas are going to be relaxed and performance driven if they are trying to pull off working on their periods.
It's to the point, I try to find out when they had their periods. I'll get on the subject, by making conversation in order to get the information. I may ask them if they have pain and how long it lasts when they are menstruating. And maybe when it was last or expected. If she indicates she's ready (no period) for me now, any surprises later on will result in dismissal, severe reduction in income, and / or no repeat business. Regulars try to pull that crap from time to time too. Thats why I get their menstruation dates/info straight before they come. If they can't perform fully, I rather get someone who is 100% ready.Thats a damn shame when a guy has to get that personal with these chicas. Only in DR.
Thats a damn shame when a gut has to get that personal with these chicas. Only in DR.Sometimes it's just a subject many chicas / women relate to. Many arent turned off by those questions. Especially if there is some chemistry between them. But think about it. Thats minor compared to a dude getting personal in seeking info on a chicas medical / disease history. If anything is more important and personal to know, it's those things. But how many dudes are going to seek out that information, before engaging in DATY, BBBJ, vaginal / anal sex with or without a condom? Same for the chicas. I'm sure enough of them have concerns, as well as seeing some hideous things dealing with mongers. I just want to eliminate having to waste time and finding out in the moment.
Thanks fellas, and for the input! I can relate to what you both say. I recall where I was in the beginning to where I am now. Now I laugh to myself as I patrol around Sosua knowing a little or a lot about many of the fixture chicas in Sosua. Not that I had them all, but enough of them. What also helped is the gathered intel from many mongers willing to share their knowledge or experiences.
Whats also interesting, is how many of the chicas are inter connected with each other. Depending on what happens with one chica may reflect on how the other chicas in her posse relate to you. Dudes are watched and studied by posses of chicas, all day and night. Thats why I don't like to rush or be too hasty grabbing a chica. I like to give them time to run their sales pitch if they have one. I prefer seeking out the fresher, less tainted appearing chicas. The ones that are less business like. Those are preferred, over many of the fine looking fixture chicas or the 5 inch heeled diva chicas (that only come out after 10 pm). Having regulars is great when not seeking new talent.I guess irony and sarcasm go over your head too.
Why am I not surprised? :)
Charles Pooter
01-21-15, 14:36
... just normal arrogance.Odd concept?
I guess irony and sarcasm go over your head too.
Why am I not surprised? :)Your not surprised because you haven't yet grasped that you can't always correctly judge a person or their intent simply by words on a message board. Words are just words. How do you know you got it right? The person may be a bad writer, or provide incomplete information. The individual reading gives life to those words. Each person embraces it in their own way. On face value, with no presumptions or biases, I understood the statement you wrote as it was written. I can see how that can apply, somewhere with somebody. You and a few individuals, appear as if you have to 1st see who is writing, before you know what to do with the information. Which is quite comical seeing it played out here.
OTOH, if we were to conduct an experiment on how some of you would react to the same words / information written by somebody else, typically your reaction and response would be different. That suggests to me, that some of you are more tuned into accepting or rejecting posts / information based on your perception and relation to the individual posting. Moreso than what is said. The irony is, I'm sure you didn't realize how obvious it shows here, and so I wasnt expecting an all out showing of brotherhood from you. So whatever you wrote makes no difference what's it's intent was. The basic premise was correct. Besides I'm not a hater.
Odd concept?As is, arrogance beyond belief. All is relative and / or subjective.
Sometimes it's just a subject many chicas / women relate to. Many arent turned off by those questions. Especially if there is some chemistry between them. But think about it. Thats minor compared to a dude getting personal in seeking info on a chicas medical / disease history. If anything is more important and personal to know, it's those things. But how many dudes are going to seek out that information, before engaging in DATY, BBBJ, vaginal / anal sex with or without a condom? Same for the chicas. I'm sure enough of them have concerns, as well as seeing some hideous things dealing with mongers. I just want to eliminate having to waste time and finding out in the moment.I'm turned off. I don't want to talk about a chick cycle when all I want from her is some pussy.
The amount you pay doesn't count for service. It all depend on the chica.It might not guarantee good service but paying her 1000 pesos isn't going to motivate her to go all out. These girls want repeats so they put on good performances hoping you take her again. What's the point of trying hard with someone who you know is going to lowball you.
I'm turned off. I don't want to talk about a chick cycle when all I want from her is some pussy.Understood. I don't like going there either. However, I avoided quite a few disappointing sessions by getting that information up front, mainly with regulars.
Okay, so I'm curious as to what happened to all the Moto-Conchos that where hauled away. I don't recall if any of them had plates or were registered. Are they given a claim ticket where they can go pick them up at an impound yard.Exactamente. My friend had his taken in Sosua. They don't care if you have current registration because it's a sweep. You walk away without your bike and later take your paperwork to the impound lot. It was really sad to see these guys walking away with their head down as their bike was on the back of a tow truck going down the street.
Odd concept?This is not an odd concept for him, but to others like you and I it is.
Your not surprised because you haven't yet grasped that you can't always correctly judge a person or their intent simply by words on a message board. Words are just words. How do you know you got it right? The person may be a bad writer, or provide incomplete information. The individual reading gives life to those words. Each person embraces it in their own way. On face value, with no presumptions or biases, I understood the statement you wrote as it was written. I can see how that can apply, somewhere with somebody. You and a few individuals, appear as if you have to 1st see who is writing, before you know what to do with the information. Which is quite comical seeing it played out here.
.LOL.
Classic projection!
Not sure how individuals are dealt with once they get to the station. Especially, dominicans over non dominicans. But out of curiosity, I'm going to ask a few moto drivers or whoever knows, what happens.I've some experience with this about 5 years ago I was driving through the interesction at the supermarket. I was caught in the middle of the interection when the light turned red. The traffic cleared and I continued so as not to block the interection. There was a police (amet) standing on a soap box how flagged me down once I cleared the interection. He caught me driving without a seatbelt, drinking a beer, with no drivers license or even a photo copy. 3 cops jumped into my car a made me drive up the mountain to the other police station. They then told me that my car will be impounded and I would have to go to court on moday and it was Saturday (from what I understand I speak very little spanish). I'm Canadian once there I say 2 Americans that they caught driving without there seatbelt and they were trying to get 5000 DOP from them to let them go. I think they wanted that crazy money because the guys rented a $100 US SUV from the airport. Luckly I had a American friend that kind of lives down there come a rescue me. He knew a few of the police officers and they let me go after paying them 1000 DOP total. He helped out the two other guys but they had to pay more. That was my second trip. I was funny to me because they told me they don't care about the dring and driving. But the red light was the major thing for them. In the last 5 years I've had my car tow over 4 times for parking issues and had to pay to have it released.
OTOH, if we were to conduct an experiment on how some of you would react to the same words / information written by somebody else, typically your reaction and response would be different. That suggests to me, that some of you are more tuned into accepting or rejecting posts / information based on your perception and relation to the individual posting. Moreso than what is said. The irony is, I'm sure you didn't realize how obvious it shows here, and so I wasnt expecting an all out showing of brotherhood from you. So whatever you wrote makes no difference what's it's intent was. The basic premise was correct. Besides I'm not a hater.That is easier than you think.
Just look at past posts, mine and yours (I've argued with ALL the main players here at one time or another).
OTOH, Besides I'm not a hater.And Nixon wasn't a crook. LOL.
Okay, so I'm curious as to what happened to all the Moto-Conchos that where hauled away. I don't recall if any of them had plates or were registered. Are they given a claim ticket where they can go pick them up at an impound yard.I was told by a local bar owner while watching this circus, that it costs 1,000 pesos to get your motoconcho back from the pound.
I was on the back of one when it was pulled over and taken by the policia last December.
I was told by a local bar owner while watching this circus, that it costs 1,000 pesos to get your motoconcho back from the pound.
A wise person said, "Smile and the world will smile back at you". Your opinion of chicas and their reaction to you, are completely in line with that.Of course, you are referring to the original poster, God, or Aristotle, but what the fuck, one may or may not exist and the other has been dead for a couple thousand years.
But those are my words to live by, so I want to take some credit for posting them here, often. LOL.
I've been in Dominican Republic for ten days -- four nights in Santo Domingo, three in Sosua, and three in Juan Dolio. I have two more nights here, and then my last two nights in Boca Chica. I've been laid twice during this trip and have never paid a dime. I don't drink and I don't go to clubs, but free sex is available everywhere. For example, this morning during breakfast, the waitress who has waited on me for the last three days asked me if I was married or had a girl friend. When I explained that I was a widower without a girlfriend, she asked me if she could give me her telephone number. I accepted. She is 37 and attractive. The young woman (very attractive) who cleans my room just did the same thing. I am a US citizen, but I speak good (proper) Spanish. This probably helps me, but I am here for the history and the beaches, so sex is not priority #1.
When I was in Sosua, I saw some of the sexiest Latinas that I've ever seen. I also saw some of the ugliest, overweight foreign men (mostly German) that I've ever seen in one location. I assume that guys who can't get laid without paying come to Sosua. That's fine with me, but, that's not "sport fucking. " It's commerce.So what in hell are you doing here?
How did you get to a monger forum? Let us know, let's have some fun.
Coming from Toronto Canada wanted to know on the ground what the exchange rate is for USD and CAD.
Thank youHey, neighbor.
The rates are changing every day, but you can go online.
Just make sure you only make one currency exchange (CAN to DP) and you can do this if you use a ATM card at ScotiaBank in Sosua, The excellent rate you'll get is tempered, somewhat, by the ATM fees.
Enjoy!
The amount you pay doesn't count for service. It all depend on the chica.Depends on your attitude too.
Treat them like shit, they'll be that.
Treat them like women, they'll try harder?
I've been in Dominican Republic for ten days -- four nights in Santo Domingo, three in Sosua, and three in Juan Dolio. I have two more nights here, and then my last two nights in Boca Chica. I've been laid twice during this trip and have never paid a dime. I don't drink and I don't go to clubs, but free sex is available everywhere. For example, this morning during breakfast, the waitress who has waited on me for the last three days asked me if I was married or had a girl friend. When I explained that I was a widower without a girlfriend, she asked me if she could give me her telephone number. I accepted. She is 37 and attractive. The young woman (very attractive) who cleans my room just did the same thing. I am a US citizen, but I speak good (proper) Spanish. This probably helps me, but I am here for the history and the beaches, so sex is not priority #1.
When I was in Sosua, I saw some of the sexiest Latinas that I've ever seen. I also saw some of the ugliest, overweight foreign men (mostly German) that I've ever seen in one location. I assume that guys who can't get laid without paying come to Sosua. That's fine with me, but, that's not "sport fucking. " It's commerce.Thanks for telling us that you got laid twice without paying, free sex is everywhere, you saw some of the sexiest latinas you have ever seen, are visiting Sosua and Boca Chica, two of the top mongering destinations in the world (although the latter not so much anymore), but are only here for the history and the beaches. And you mention this on the internationalsexguide.info.
Makes perfect sense.
Tempoecorto
01-22-15, 03:48
Of course, you are referring to the original poster, God, or Aristotle, but what the fuck, one may or may not exist and the other has been dead for a couple thousand years. But those are my words to live by, so I want to take some credit for posting them here, often. LOL.Oops, can't speak of God (being an agnostic) or Aristotle (for the reason cited by you) but in case you had mentioned it earlier, my apologies; Did not want to steal your thunder Bro. Yes, it helps to look in the mirror as one laments about obnoxious females. That maxim continues to serve me (and you too, by your words) well.
Thanks for telling us that you got laid twice without paying, free sex is everywhere, you saw some of the sexiest latinas you have ever seen, are visiting Sosua and Boca Chica, two of the top mongering destinations in the world (although the latter not so much anymore), but are only here for the history and the beaches. And you mention this on the internationalsexguide.info.
Makes perfect sense.After 10 days of looking at beautiful young sexy latino chica and I only sexed 2 that is a terrible vacation for me. I don't care if they were free. If I am there for 10 days I have been through 18 to 25 chicas of my own choosing, but hey I am mongering. If what I am doing is wrong may I be struck down with more pesos.
After 10 days of looking at beautiful young sexy latino chica and I only sexed 2 that is a terrible vacation for me. I don't care if they were free. If I am there for 10 days I have been through 18 to 25 chicas of my own choosing, but hey I am mongering. If what I am doing is wrong may I be struck down with more pesos.25 chicas in 10 days?
You'll make the gods jealous.
Don't be standing under any trees in a thunderstorm, ya hear?
Oops, can't speak of God (being an agnostic) or Aristotle (for the reason cited by you) but in case you had mentioned it earlier, my apologies; Did not want to steal your thunder Bro. Yes, it helps to look in the mirror as one laments about obnoxious females. That maxim continues to serve me (and you too, by your words) well.You know I was joking.
Can't take credit for that old saw.
But the other one I live by is mine. I Googled it just now before I posted it to be sure.
"Some see a lump of useless rock, but inside is a Michaelangelo Pieta waiting to be cut free".
25 chicas in 10 days?
You'll make the gods jealous.
Don't be standing under any trees in a thunderstorm, ya hear?What can I say some days I like morning afternoon and late night snacks.it doesn't even come close to the amount of nuts surfer gets from one chica
I've some experience with this about 5 years ago I was driving through the interesction at the supermarket. I was caught in the middle of the interection when the light turned red. The traffic cleared and I continued so as not to block the interection. There was a police (amet) standing on a soap box how flagged me down once I cleared the interection. He caught me driving without a seatbelt, drinking a beer, with no drivers license or even a photo copy. 3 cops jumped into my car a made me drive up the mountain to the other police station. They then told me that my car will be impounded and I would have to go to court on moday and it was Saturday (from what I understand I speak very little spanish). I'm Canadian once there I say 2 Americans that they caught driving without there seatbelt and they were trying to get 5000 DOP from them to let them go. I think they wanted that crazy money because the guys rented a $100 US SUV from the airport. Luckly I had a American friend that kind of lives down there come a rescue me. He knew a few of the police officers and they let me go after paying them 1000 DOP total. He helped out the two other guys but they had to pay more. That was my second trip. I was funny to me because they told me they don't care about the dring and driving. But the red light was the major thing for them. In the last 5 years I've had my car tow over 4 times for parking issues and had to pay to have it released.I got caught twice by that same light. It's almost like the cars directly in front are in cohoots with the AMET police to make sure you get stuck under the light as it turns red. The 1st time, they told me to pull into the PN parking lot. Was willing to give some pesos to get out. The cute female AMET officer with the nice ass was given my license by the other officer. She looked at it, and walked over to me and told me I could go. The 2nd time, I knew I didn't go through that light. But I got stopped anyway. This time me and my passenger (american) both complained to the officer that he was wrong. I think we convinced them that they could have been wrong, because they let us go after showing them my credentials. Way before those incidents, I did get a ticket for no seat belt. The ticket was 1600 pesos. I had a dominican "friend" take me up to the AMET station. He spoke on my behalf (I stayed in the car) and I left the station 1000 pesos poorer. But I learned something from that and other instances while dealing with him. The dominican dude wasnt really my friend. I shouldn't have had to pay 1000 pesos. Plus he never told me that I could have given the officer much much less at the time I was stopped. I learned that later. That would have been useful info instead of thinking I need him to "help" me out. That's the way he hustles to make a living.
That is easier than you think.
Just look at past posts, mine and yours (I've argued with ALL the main players here at one time or another).
The common denominator is that you initiate negativity, especially back then, (probably with all of those main players as well) and then evolve to trying to turn it into personalizing, so you can avoid looking ridiculous not having a constructive POV to support. Just like your posting buddies, the same MO.
. In the last 5 years I've had my car tow over 4 times for parking issues and had to pay to have it released.
That is good info. I have never had a auto towed in the DR but will be more careful now because of this post.
It's a hit or miss whether an AMET officer will accept a bribe or not. Not all will accept it out in public, and some not at all.
Listen up new guys this is serious business. That statement says a mouth full.
What can I say some days I like morning afternoon and late night snacks.it doesn't even come close to the amount of nuts surfer gets from one chicaGrownMan you are correct, over a five day period during my last trip while in Boca Chica my ex-psycho Dominican fatal attraction nymphomaniac Chica did get 20 plus leches out of me within five days and I also got a little road rash on my Johnson from it all. I'm over six decades old and I don't know how I pulled it off. I think it was because there were no waves to ride in Boca Chica, hence I had to ride something to fill in the mornings.
I'm trying to throttle things back a notch here in Sosua. The last two days I've spent about 2 hours each morning riding the waves at Playa Encuentro and it's been taxing, hence my nutting is going to be reduced. I am fortunate though in that I do have a Haitian Chica here capable of extracting the leche out of me like psycho woman if I desire it.
I recall typing that we don't need to meet. You then claimed I was afraid to meet a monger. The more you kept trying to assign how I supposedly think, the more I realized we really don't need to meet. Eventually you busted out with the arrogance beyond belief statement. Perhaps because you didn't like that? Who knows what your malfunction is. All I know is I'm on a message board with anonymous individuals. So how the hell could a person online manifest arrogance, especially arrogance beyond belief, just because they wisely decline an insincere invite?You previously in your own written words admitted too being only "normally arrogant" versus "arrogant beyond belief" and know refuse to acknowledge what you wrote by wrapping it around meeting. Your claiming now that your on a message board with anonymous individuals, while in your past posts claim to have personally meet some of it's members.
I think your on this site masquerading as a mongerer. Perhaps your gay and despise mongerers having such a need to "counsel" us all in our ways.
If your for real, prove it. I'll be at the above-mentioned place at the time stated or could meet at another time or venue. My terms for meeting are simple, I hold no grudges and anything I've written will be water under the bridge. If your truly a mongerer then we shouldn't always be at odds with one another in this hobby.
I often wonder who is real and who is make believe. I am sure they are guys who read a true mongers post and then forms his on original post using what the true monger told them. I have noticed over the last couple of years that some of the main players on this page cannot keep what they say straight. My momma told me when I was a kid if you tell a lie then you got to keep lying from now on to cover the 1 lie you just told. I could expose the lies and would if I thought it would keep some one out of jail but I would like to keep peace with all. So in saying all of that just realize that they are 5-0 on here just like they are anywhere else people visit and you should be ok.
I often wonder who is real and who is make believe. I am sure they are guys who read a true mongers post and then forms his on original post using what the true monger told them. I have noticed over the last couple of years that some of the main players on this page cannot keep what they say straight. My momma told me when I was a kid if you tell a lie then you got to keep lying from now on to cover the 1 lie you just told. I could expose the lies and would if I thought it would keep some one out of jail but I would like to keep peace with all. So in saying all of that just realize that they are 5-0 on here just like they are anywhere else people visit and you should be ok.I think that goes for anything you read on the internet (or at least on a anonymous forum) . Take it all with a grain of salt. People can pretty much say whatever they like and some posters do just that. Having said that, there is useful information here.
Camaro1257
01-24-15, 16:43
I often wonder who is real and who is make believe. I am sure they are guys who read a true mongers post and then forms his on original post using what the true monger told them. I have noticed over the last couple of years that some of the main players on this page cannot keep what they say straight. My momma told me when I was a kid if you tell a lie then you got to keep lying from now on to cover the 1 lie you just told. I could expose the lies and would if I thought it would keep some one out of jail but I would like to keep peace with all. So in saying all of that just realize that they are 5-0 on here just like they are anywhere else people visit and you should be ok.This is why my reporting style is different. I share a few anecdotes but the primary motivation for my reporting is to share intel on diferent locations so that fellow mongers can be informed should that decide to visit the places I have been.
I often wonder who is real and who is make believe. I am sure they are guys who read a true mongers post and then forms his on original post using what the true monger told them. I have noticed over the last couple of years that some of the main players on this page cannot keep what they say straight. My momma told me when I was a kid if you tell a lie then you got to keep lying from now on to cover the 1 lie you just told. I could expose the lies and would if I thought it would keep some one out of jail but I would like to keep peace with all. So in saying all of that just realize that they are 5-0 on here just like they are anywhere else people visit and you should be ok.There's a lot of crap goes on here, but most of it is transparent. You can sort out the wheat from the chaff.
I found Sosua to be a monger paradise because I paid attention to the fans, and mostly disregarded the negativity and the critics. But positive and negative, they are all here, so there's something for everybody.
YYZ to POP $524 CAD with Air Transit. Been a long time since I taken a direct flight from YYZ to POP. Normally do BUF to JFK to POP because cheaper but Toronto managered to be cheaper this time, I was amazed worth a note for all the Toronto people.
I was picked up from airport by car rental company which is located in Sosua for Free with free drop off. So no need for me to pay taxi. Been renting cars from same company for years but they still pick up anyone from the airport for free if you rent with them. I got I better rate then someone else does due to the fact I have rented soo many times 28 US / day new SUV for sosua it was a 2011. Normally 35 to 40 US / day the cheapest. They will not barging with new people so don't ask. Respect is earned in the DR with locals.
Exchange rate $1 Cad = 34.80 on the ground not banks or ATM's. Was $42 in July 2014 worth a note since CAD down compared to USD. Guys it cuts 20% off the top of your money. F**k.
*Note: All my review if I can write them will be under a bottle of brugal and presidente mix with W**the LOL in my room because it takes about 4 hrs + for me to write and edit for my personal life notes, about my adventures though life. I like to get F*k up on vacations. Side note: big up to all central teck and Runnymede peps. Jane street from bloor to Jane / finch street big up wardies. WESTSIDE. People from T. O from westend you know what I mean if you are in your mid 30's. I saw a friend from highschool on my second night who said he checked this site but did not find anything he could use. He asked me to write something.
Day 1.
Checked into apartment will review apartment at the end. Hit the strip noted that the'Latin closed doors boarded up. Rumba has the before party people. Full but note a decine in the amount of chicas over my last 5 years of coming. Still a lot to pick from so you will not be disappointed. 200 dop to get into classico, comes with wrist band. 5000 dop for a bottle of heny in the club. I ues to get a 10% discound from the"latino's before. Barteners from that club that know me and want my busines talk to the manager and got me the same discount but I did not buy a bottle the first night. Lots of the same chicas to mention that are always in sosua. I showed my love to thoughs chicas. They train other chicas that come to sosua, nuff said.
Picked a chica I have rocked with before. I have learnt over the years that for me, the first night can really set the tone for the rest of the trip. She did everything I wanted with no issues period, she cumed a few times told me she wants to stay with me no problem 1500 dop all day with food of cource. Told her maybe. Drop her home happy no extra 3000 dop. Maybe see her again. We f*k 4 times from 2 am till 1 pm with all my extras. To note my spanih is not good. I know basic words that is it. Chica told me other chica have nuff respect for me and ever chica told her, see is stupid if she does not go with me first night. Other chica's jealous. LOL.
After 2 pm a drive around POP not sosua geting phone numbers from chicas from the beach and main supermarket.
Note: My report will be from the prospected of someone that has has other mongers helped before. They are not on this board so take what you want from this, old school love nuff respect reggea hip hop combined, JR gateries from the late 80's nuff respect all my NY and**ga who helped me thought the years Toronto / NY combined respect. I have made many mistakes and still do. You can never really know what you will get when you get back to your room, but you can interview them. Woman are Woman where ever you are in the world, that are not asian LOL. Girls that you can f*k and make them cum. I find will be more loyal to you. Depends what you do sexually. I'm not into 2 chicas at the same time unless they are true lesbians which they must confirm before we get to the room. I have one dick and don't want to do too much work. I like chica that look that they are new to sosua. They know what you want and will be happy sucking your dick for 1 HR straight with no condom and cum in their mouth. LOL. Make sure you have mouth wash. LOL. This also included massages. I know somethings I write will contridict other things I say, do to the personily and my chances for a good time with a chica.
Day 2.
With hotel it included breakfast for 2 people. Know the owner who is from NY how is here right now. 28 us / day this was my jump off spot before I normally get a 2 bedroom villa. I am solo by the way. He wanted all my business so will stay with with my whole trip. Really good rate. Remember I have stayed here many times before so this will not apply to you. I want to show people what can be had with you investment in sosua. IE money over time.
Chica from last night was happy with food delievered to room at 10 am. Also king side bed with a / see hot water on timer no I'd needed but I take just for my security and lock it in the car. 24 HR security with no problems. I also talked to security before any chica comes to my room to set the condistions for my stay. Ie don't talk to my chica don't ask anything unless I tell you. My secnd language is french secrurit is from Haiti. Quiet hotel no moto contro making noise at night.
Sleep during the day. Got to classico around mid night. I like to play the game I talk to almost ever chica that I think is good looking to see how they are. Even if after they don't speak english in my basic spanish for atleast 1 HR with 1 or 2 beers. If she wants more than presidente dump the be*tch in my opion. Unless you want to take a chance.
But I like see*ke chica smetimes. I have reguarl that I see that does it. But tried something new tonight. I don't do see*ke. But sometimes they are sexual, to non see*ke chicas. Due to there highness I bed.
* Warning they can also be a lot of troble if you don't know what you are doing* don't do what i do. Unless you have been down there several times and know the what is going on with these chicas *.
Massage, BBBJ. 1000 dop all night she told me. Ended up kicking her out after 3 hrs at my place. She got too crazy she started taking burgal straight to the head from the bootle. Which made her nuts. Kicked her out happy so no problem with her 1000 dop.
More to come stay tuned.
YYZ to POP $524 CAD with Air Transit. Been a long time since I taken a direct flight from YYZ to POP. Normally do BUF to JFK to POP because cheaper but Toronto managered to be cheaper this time, I was amazed worth a note for all the Toronto people.
I was picked up from airport by car rental company which is located in Sosua for Free with free drop off. So no need for me to pay taxi. Been renting cars from same company for years but they still pick up anyone from the airport for free if you rent with them. I got I better rate then someone else does due to the fact I have rented soo many times 28 US / day new SUV for sosua it was a 2011. Normally 35 to 40 US / day the cheapest. They will not barging with new people so don't ask. Respect is earned in the DR with locals.
Exchange rate $1 Cad = 34.80 on the ground not banks or ATM's. Was $42 in July 2014 worth a note since CAD down compared to USD. Guys it cuts 20% off the top of your money. F**k.
*Note: All my review if I can write them will be under a bottle of brugal and presidente mix with W**the LOL in my room because it takes about 4 hrs + for me to write and edit for my personal life notes, about my adventures though life. I like to get F*k up on vacations. Side note: big up to all central teck and Runnymede peps. Jane street from bloor to Jane / finch street big up wardies. WESTSIDE. People from T. O from westend you know what I mean if you are in your mid 30's. I saw a friend from highschool on my second night who said he checked this site but did not find anything he could use. He asked me to write something..Keep us posted on your adventures in Sosua.
I will spend the month of February in Cabarete. Last year I was in Sosua and had a great time with many local girls. I know where to find chicas in Sosua, but I have no idea where to find the chicas in Cabarete. Any sugesitions? Names of bars or can I find them on the beach?
I have a nice condo on the west side of town right on the beach but can not entertain. Any suggestions for hotels that rent rooms by the hour or a hotel that is inexpensive and chica friendly?
Day 3.
Its Saturday. Drove around Sosua during the day, didn't really see much on the road. Came back to my room and slept till around 8 pm.
When to Rocky's for a burger and to watch the girls go by. When to Rumba's restaurant for some wings and to chat to some guys for a few hours.
It's now 11 pm pull car onto the corner where Classico is. Sat in car looking at the girls go by. Found most chica come between 12 pm or 1 am. Classico is not what it use to be a few years back. Saturday night in my opinion had less chicas then Friday nigh. Club was I guest was full but not that full there were holes in the crowd so not as full as before. Did find anything I wanted at Classico. Talked to several chicas had fun playing games with them. I love to lie to woman and you should with these hardcore ones. I tell so many lies to pump them about me they some where begin to come to my room. Had a very good looking one that wanted 1500 dop for everything I wanted but I say no. At the time I thought see was a hardcore chica.
Left Classico and went to the club across the street. Met a chica how looked like she was normal. Meaning no big nails, hair or cell phone. She was from San Francisco de Macoris with no kids. She spoke very little english. She bought me the first drink. We discussed 2000 dop for all night. When we got back to the room found out this is the first time she ever done something like this. She is was very nervous. She wanted to give me a blowjob with a condom. I should of figured this out because she went to take a show and I did not hear the shower water going only the sink. This means she didn't know how to use it. I immediately kicked her out of my room and dropped her to her place with no money. Hated to do it to this girl she was really nice, but really did not want to waste my time showing how to be a puta.
Its now 4:30 am Sunday morning. After dropping her off was kind of mad because things did not work out. Saw the chica I was talking to before at Classico about to get on a motto to go home. Now we agree for 1000 dop and she will stay till 2 pm. Come back to the room. Ended up finding out she is new to the game, less than 1 month. She came to Sosua for the gringo's that will come for Superbowl. Service was great multiple cum shots for me and her. Now this was new for me, next day we get into the car to bring her home, this is the time I pay the chicas. Told the money and see said no. Told me she enjoyed my company and she wants to go on a date with me. I said yes and took her phone number. Funny thing is I spent the next 1 HR trying to figure out her game. It maybe me and the fact that over these years I have learnt not to trust anyone down here. I will let you know how the date goes in a few days.
Something to note. I try to stay away from the hardcore chica. Because I have seen them being trained by some of the other veterans chicas which sometimes tell them thing that I'm like if you did that with me you would be out. They train them to play games in your room so they don't do much when there. I was very surprised in the fact that the one I first said no to ended up being a good time. I think we maybe able to build some type of friendship. While the chica I first went with was too new to the game, therefore didn't know what to do. In my option you want to get someone new but no too new.
Being new to the scene can be a problem but it depends on the girl. I am attracted to the girls who appear fresh to the scene. Some new girls have rules that might be contrary to your desires. I use toys and oils and assume they will be no problem. It can be ackward working with new girls.
My first Dominican girl is in Sosua. When I first met her she was in Punta Cana working out of Steves Bar 4 years ago. She is one of the best fucks I have ever had. She has lived in SD for the last 3 years. I have had my best 3 somes with her. Saw her on facebook and scheduled a 3 some with her. She is smoking hot and a beast in bed. She gives a porn star quality performance. She starts every session by masturbating. Hooot. I will be on the ground in early March. 5 weeks away. This should be a great way to start my vacation. I want this to be my first session to get things started with a serious bang.
My hot girl.
Being new to the scene can be a problem but it depends on the girl. I am attracted to the girls who appear fresh to the scene. Some new girls have rules that might be contrary to your desires. I use toys and oils and assume they will be no problem. It can be ackward working with new girls.
My first Dominican girl is in Sosua. When I first met her she was in Punta Cana working out of Steves Bar 4 years ago. She is one of the best fucks I have ever had. She has lived in SD for the last 3 years. I have had my best 3 somes with her. Saw her on facebook and scheduled a 3 some with her. She is smoking hot and a beast in bed. She gives a porn star quality performance. She starts every session by masturbating. Hooot. I will be on the ground in early March. 5 weeks away. This should be a great way to start my vacation. I want this to be my first session to get things started with a serious bang.
Day 3.
Left Classico and went to the club across the street. Met a chica how looked like she was normal. Meaning no big nails, hair or cell phone. She was from San Francisco de Macoris with no kids. She spoke very little english. She bought me the first drink. We discussed 2000 dop for all night. When we got back to the room found out this is the first time she ever done something like this. She is was very nervous. She wanted to give me a blowjob with a condom. I should of figured this out because she went to take a show and I did not hear the shower water going only the sink. This means she didn't know how to use it. I immediately kicked her out of my room and dropped her to her place with no money. Hated to do it to this girl she was really nice, but really did not want to waste my time showing how to be a puta.
You had a fresh fish. You were looking for fresh fish. Then you complain your fish is too fresh LOL. So she didn't know how to use a shower. She was ready to do the task. Did you explain to her you wanted BBBJ. I can understand if you explained it to her and she didn't want to provide. You wasted her time and couldn't even offer her 50 peso for a ride back? You said she was nice not trying to run game on you. Its your money and you know what you want but dam! We wonder why some of these puta get so heartless. I am enjoying your reports keep it coming.
Day 3.
Left Classico and went to the club across the street.Ikonic my boys are there now and they say this is the new After 1 spot. In your opinion what is it working with? Can you remember the name cause they couldn't.
Ikonic my boys are there now and they say this is the new After 1 spot. In your opinion what is it working with? Can you remember the name cause they couldn't.Winners circle is across from Classicos but the old "Club X" is next to it. I've heard Club X was re-opening. It is one of the nicer spots in Sosua with VIP and pool tables.
I agree with your comment below about the guy missing the chance with a newbie. He saw all the signs and proceeded to ruin her. I probably would have spent the next two days with her breaking her in proper. The thing is that she probably won't last long as an independent in Sosua. Some Dominican will dog her out or the SD girls will run her away. The street girls in Sosua usually have a crew nearby that they are affiliated with.
Member #4398
01-26-15, 06:45
I will spend the month of February in Cabarete. Last year I was in Sosua and had a great time with many local girls. I know where to find chicas in Sosua, but I have no idea where to find the chicas in Cabarete. Any sugesitions? Names of bars or can I find them on the beach?
I have a nice condo on the west side of town right on the beach but can not entertain. Any suggestions for hotels that rent rooms by the hour or a hotel that is inexpensive and chica friendly?Cosmo1,
There is no as much P4P action in Cabarete as in Sosua (Batey and Pedro Clisante area). But if you like to do some chica hunting like me, Cabarete should be fine for you. The girls usually congregate in the long beach strip of Cabarete beach which has many beautiful outdoor restaurants, bars and discos. Most girls start arriving after 10 pm and the best time is midnight to 230 am when everybody is getting drunk. At 3 am, they close the bars and clubs, but is usually when the crowd is the biggest and the craziest and most people are drunk or getting there. There are a couple of places where many free lancers go. The free lancers are not as obvious as in Sosua, but some are. In Cabarete just by walking down the beach strip you will see which are the best bar and clubs as soon as you see the crowd of people and the music they play. Just take your pick. Go to Ojo Club located on the strip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7UZ-KY0zE and check it out. Also check Onnos bar http://www.onnosbar.com/cabarete/# and next to Onnos there is Bambu Lounge Bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HOS_UiLrQ. There is also Arriba Bar and Billiard. This one is located in the avenida principal accross from Bambu, but this is a more local place than touristic. There is a bar / disco on the strip that usually plays Latin music and was always full of free lancers and was my favorite, but I forgot the name. All I remember it is that it was located in between a mojito bar and another bar / disco that play excellent DJ music. I tended to alternate between the two places and got my picks there.
As for girl friendly accommodations, I recommend the San Souci aparta hotel http://sanssoucicabarete.com/. Very nice beds, quiet, safe, and clean with air conditioner. There is a big supermarket (Janet) 3 minutes walk. From San Souci you can walk from the beach 5 minutes to the strip of restaurant and bars. SanSouci is super affordable or $30-40 dollars a night and you could get a nice beach front studio or bigger apartment for that price. For $40-50 you could get a one bedroom facing the beach. There is no problem with bringing a girl. When picking a girl from a beach bar / disco, you may have to take a motoconcho with the girl to the place as most girls in their high heels don't like to walk on the beach specially at night time. The girls are use to taking motoconchos as this is how most get to and leave Cabarete. In the San Souci, they don't even ask for I'd when you bring then in because there is no person checking in. There is onlya security at night and the afternoon watching the place and no reception area late at night. There is a also a bar nearby with some high end girls to take out only and is walking distance to the San Souci. The girls are expensive or about $150 for two hours if I can remember. I forgot the exact location but is on the same street of Janet Supermarket going down towards the beach. Hope you have fun in Cabarete.
Cerebro
Member #4398
01-26-15, 07:47
You had a fresh fish. You were looking for fresh fish. Then you complain your fish is too fresh LOL. So she didn't know how to use a shower. She was ready to do the task. Did you explain to her you wanted BBBJ. I can understand if you explained it to her and she didn't want to provide. You wasted her time and couldn't even offer her 50 peso for a ride back? You said she was nice not trying to run game on you. Its your money and you know what you want but dam! We wonder why some of these puta get so heartless. I am enjoying your reports keep it coming.Agree with Grownman1 here. A first timer chica should not have been treated the way Ikonic treated her. Ikonic you could have shown that poor fresh fish / girl the ropes just by doing some explaining or just allowing the girl to relax and not treating her like a piece of shit for not knowing the trade yet. There is always a first time for everyone and mongers should not be so heartless with the new putas.
You had a fresh fish. You were looking for fresh fish. Then you complain your fish is too fresh LOL. So she didn't know how to use a shower. She was ready to do the task. Did you explain to her you wanted BBBJ. I can understand if you explained it to her and she didn't want to provide. You wasted her time and couldn't even offer her 50 peso for a ride back? You said she was nice not trying to run game on you. Its your money and you know what you want but dam! We wonder why some of these puta get so heartless. I am enjoying your reports keep it coming.LOL I laughed when I was writing knowing it contradicts. I was trying to show that you can't judge a book by it's fresh new cover. I found a vet putta that ended up satisfying me. Personally I don't normally ask if she does BBBJ. I know others on this board do, but I find it kills the mood. I like to ask more questions like: what do you like sexually? What about a man turns you on? Those kinds of things. I kind of expect BBBJ, even back home woman I f*k do BBBJ no question. Most all girls I found in DR have done it without me asking. But admit have had less than 5 say no.
I think you understand why I was looking for something fresh. I did not included in the report that I bought her 2 drinks in the club, and also food before we came to the room. Thought after all the talking we did we had a good chemistry, but I guest not sexually. I also always drop my chicas home if they are in Sosua, I do have a rental car. I was not disrespectful to her. I explained at the time in bed to her, sexually we don't seem compatible and I need BBBJ and I love it.
In this situation I was looking for a girl (18 - 22) with no kids no big hair, dress, nails, shoes or phone that look shy and are staying to themselves. Not trying to talk to all the gringos and does not look like she has any male Dominican friends in town ie all the beggars on the strip. They must have potential in the looks department, but does not have the cloths to match. To me they seem like they are at a turning point in life they are either working or going to school.
Note.
Every chica I have taken and things have not worked out in the room for any number of reason, I have always treated them like a lady. There is no need to call her names, or be really disrespectful. I think you should be nice but not to nice, if you know what I mean, you still have to lay down the law, they look at kindness as a weakness in DR. If I didn't buy her drinks or food before we got to the room and talk to her making jokes. I would have had to give her something like 100 - 500 dop.
Ikonic my boys are there now and they say this is the new After 1 spot. In your opinion what is it working with? Can you remember the name cause they couldn't.I think the name is Club X.
It plays mostly Dominican music. Club seems to cater to Dominicans. No smoking inside. Bottle of henny 4000 dop compared to Clasicco 5000 dop. I have never stayed to the end of Clasicco or after one times anymore. Most of the girls are at Clasicco. I personally thought I had a better chance of meeting a newbie there than Clasicco, if you look, but is not proven I'm working on that. Not a lot of hot girls there. Waiter from closed D'Latino, that was the reason I first when in there. Half the size of Clasicco inside.
You had a fresh fish. You were looking for fresh fish. Then you complain your fish is too fresh LOL. So she didn't know how to use a shower. She was ready to do the task. Did you explain to her you wanted BBBJ. I can understand if you explained it to her and she didn't want to provide. You wasted her time and couldn't even offer her 50 peso for a ride back? You said she was nice not trying to run game on you. Its your money and you know what you want but dam! We wonder why some of these puta get so heartless. I am enjoying your reports keep it coming.Sometimes you have to just reverse things on these Chicas and give them something un-expected. If she was hot and clean and he went down on her instead of insisting on a BBBJ and he may have ended up with it after all and perhaps a wild session.
Personally I don't normally ask if she does BBBJ. I know others on this board do, but I find it kills the mood. I like to ask more questions like: what do you like sexually? What about a man turns you on? Those kinds of things. I kind of expect BBBJ, even back home woman I f*k do BBBJ no question. Most all girls I found in DR have done it without me asking. But admit have had less than 5 say no.
I think you understand why I was looking for something fresh. I did not included in the report that I bought her 2 drinks in the club, and also food before we came to the room. Thought after all the talking we did we had a good chemistry, but I guest not sexually. I also always drop my chicas home if they are in Sosua, I do have a rental car. I was not disrespectful to her. I explained at the time in bed to her, sexually we don't seem compatible and I need BBBJ and I love it.
In this situation I was looking for a girl (18 - 22) with no kids no big hair, dress, nails, shoes or phone that look shy and are staying to themselves. Not trying to talk to all the gringos and does not look like she has any male Dominican friends in town ie all the beggars on the strip. They must have potential in the looks department, but does not have the cloths to match. To me they seem like they are at a turning point in life they are either working or going to school.
If I didn't buy her drinks or food before we got to the room and talk to her making jokes. I would have had to give her something like 100 - 500 dop.I agree I don't ask BBBJ either I kind of expected it. Yes I too understand why you were looking for those type of chicas ie a girl (18 - 22) with no kids no big hair, dress, nails, shoes or phone that look shy and are staying to themselves. I call these chicas RAW. Those are some of my MOs in looking for new recruits. I like them hungry. If I had bought her 2 drinks and food yes it would have been a wrap, no sex no more invested money. You had a lock on things and you played the game like a violin. Goodjob!
Member #4351
01-26-15, 15:25
I was looking for a girl (18 - 22) with no kids no big hair, dress, nails, shoes or phone that look shy and are staying to themselves. Not trying to talk to all the gringos and does not look like she has any male Dominican friends in town ie all the beggars on the strip. They must have potential in the looks department, but does not have the cloths to match. To me they seem like they are at a turning point in life they are either working or going to school.If you don't want hard core putas, why are you in the hard core puta capital of the country? Why don't you just go to Santo Domingo, or at least; Cabarete? By the way, with the money you are saving by kicking out girls from your room without pay, you could give Jackson his $19.95 and be a member of the forum.
Sometimes you have to just reverse things on these Chicas and give them something un-expected. If she was hot and clean and he went down on her instead of insisting on a BBBJ and he may have ended up with it after all and perhaps a wild session.Surfer how many times I am going to have to tell you. Stop going down on every DUDE meet! Those guys talk!
I find that Sosua attracts all kind of girls. Most are having a hard time making ends meet and quick cash in Sosua is an answer. They can make in a week what it would take a month in a normal job. The hard core girls are the full time chicas. Selling sex is their full time occupation. They have experienced everything street life has to offer. They are hard because it is necessary to survive. They are the leche popi girls who are putting on their panties as soon as you pop. They are perfect for the weekend warriors who want numbers. If you spend 10 minutes talking to a pro you kno what they are. They promise the world and rarely deliver. Nevertheless there are pros who will rock your world. You have to have some chemistry with any girl you hook up with hardcore or fresh. On my last trip my best experience was with a non pro I have none for 3 years. I was comfortable DFK and DTTY which are not always possible with hardcore girls. I will say this if a hardcore girl likes you they can rock your world. The problem is getting them to want to please you. Haitian girls seem to have better work ethics. They seem to put effort that DR chica sometimes don't.
If you don't want hard core putas, why are you in the hard core puta capital of the country? Why don't you just go to Santo Domingo, or at least; Cabarete? By the way, with the money you are saving by kicking out girls from your room without pay, you could give Jackson his $19.95 and be a member of the forum.
If you don't want hard core putas, why are you in the hard core puta capital of the country? Why don't you just go to Santo Domingo, or at least; Cabarete? By the way, with the money you are saving by kicking out girls from your room without pay, you could give Jackson his $19.95 and be a member of the forum.When I first signed up for the site 4 years ago I paid the $20. Take what you want from my report. I admit I am a nobody on this forum. I have taken info from this board before and now I'm giving back for free. I really don't need to sit in my room on vacation writing this. I just wanted to help, if you guys don't want me to write anymore I won't. Its as simple as that. Let me know.
I know I'm at the point that your right Sosua may not be the absolute best place for me in DR. My Spanish level is holding me back. I have had tones of girls tell me. If I only knew Spanish better she could fall in love with. (from what I understand).
Again I repeat I don't believe in being aggressive with any chica, unless they ask me to in bed LOL. She left my room with no disturbance and happy. Her belly was full she had a nice shower and I never made her feel like a puta. Real talk, no chica wants to fell like a HOE. When I dropped she asked me if she could give me her cell number. It's really about the guys attitude in these situations as I tried to explain before.
Example:
A guy sits in Rumba with a chica for 2 hrs. Buys her no drinks and feeling her ass up and breast letting her grind up on him. He sees an even hotter girl and calls her over and then decides to go with the other chica. Now the first chica will be mad you felt her up wasting 2 hrs of her time, and now she gets nothing. She will be like hell no. She will tell you, give me something for my time. I see most guys say no and a big fight breaks out with the chica. Guys you can't do that, you have to give her something.
Tempoecorto
01-26-15, 23:06
My Spanish level is holding me back. I have had tones of girls tell me. Your Spanish is holding you back and your English is not?
Cosmo1,
There is no as much P4P action in Cabarete as in Sosua (Batey and Pedro Clisante area). But if you like to do some chica hunting like me, Cabarete should be fine for you. The girls usually congregate in the long beach strip of Cabarete beach which has many beautiful outdoor restaurants, bars and discos. Most girls start arriving after 10 pm and the best time is midnight to 230 am when everybody is getting drunk. At 3 am, they close the bars and clubs, but is usually when the crowd is the biggest and the craziest and most people are drunk or getting there. There are a couple of places where many free lancers go. The free lancers are not as obvious as in Sosua, but some are. In Cabarete just by walking down the beach strip you will see which are the best bar and clubs as soon as you see the crowd of people and the music they play. Just take your pick. Go to Ojo Club located on the strip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7UZ-KY0zE and check it out. Also check Onnos bar http://www.onnosbar.com/cabarete/# and next to Onnos there is Bambu Lounge Bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HOS_UiLrQ. There is also Arriba Bar and Billiard. This one is located in the avenida principal accross from Bambu, but this is a more local place than touristic. There is a bar / disco on the strip that usually plays Latin music and was always full of free lancers and was my favorite, but I forgot the name. All I remember it is that it was located in between a mojito bar and another bar / disco that play excellent DJ music. I tended to alternate between the two places and got my picks there...Thank you for the information. Now I'm ready for Cabarete.
Sometimes you have to bypass criticism or have a sense of humor here. Keep those reports coming player and much respect for giving back!
Surfer how many times I am going to have to tell you. Stop going down on every DUDE meet! Those guys talk!What is a Chica anyways!
Tempoecorto
01-27-15, 02:22
If you don't want hard core putas, why are you in the hard core puta capital of the country? Why don't you just go to Santo Domingo, or at least; Cabarete? Some people have an odious attitude towards "putas" while cultivating them at the same time; they denigrate them verbally (in their comical English), find fault for all sorts of reasons and by doing so, derive some pleasure, apparently. This "higher than a poor third world puta" puts them on a higher pedestal I presume!
Member #4398
01-27-15, 03:47
Thank you for the information. Now I'm ready for Cabarete.Cosmos1,
I wish I could remember the name of that bar / club which I frequented that gets many freelancers. Maybe this will help you find it, the Cosita del Mojito Bar is next to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ip5xpAG1U or http://lacositadelmojito.com/. If you find the bar, you will notice that they play a lot of Latin music and it has a small bartender area where you could sit and drink and a small dance / disco floor inside and has sofas on the back. Many freelance chicas (Dominicans and Haitians) like that bar because it has pretty cheap drinks (Cuba libres they like to drink) and the music is not that bad and often there is DJ, also is very dark on the back seating area. I bought drinks to a few chicas that I liked or that approached me and also used then to practice bachata dance as they play lots of bachata music as well as reggaeton. I used to hang out there and buy mojitos there before 10 pm cause they were super cheap or haft price and I picked up a couple of chicas there and took them to the San Souci place via motoconcho. There is another bar next to it that gets more crowded and has pretty good music a party atmosphere mixed with locals and tourists, but I did not see as many free lancers as in the bar where the Latin music was played. There is also a restaurant next to it with great fish and churrasco in case you like that at a pretty good price. I loved that Churrasco. Also, keep in mind that when you walk through the strip by 9 pm-10 pm, you may get disappointed because it may be empty at the time, but then you come back after an hour or at midnight and then all of the sudden is crowded and crazy with tourist, locals, and chicas all getting drunk and looking to have fun. Have fun,
Cerebro
Member #4398
01-27-15, 04:03
When I first signed up for the site 4 years ago I paid the $20. Take what you want from my report. I admit I am a nobody on this forum. I have taken info from this board before and now I'm giving back for free. I really don't need to sit in my room on vacation writing this. I just wanted to help, if you guys don't want me to write anymore I won't. Its as simple as that. Let me know.
I know I'm at the point that your right Sosua may not be the absolute best place for me in DR. My Spanish level is holding me back. I have had tones of girls tell me. If I only knew Spanish better she could fall in love with. (from what I understand).
Again I repeat I don't believe in being aggressive with any chica, unless they ask me to in bed LOL. She left my room with no disturbance and happy. Her belly was full she had a nice shower and I never made her feel like a puta. Real talk, no chica wants to fell like a HOE. When I dropped she asked me if she could give me her cell number.Ikonic,
Don't get discouraged from posting more. We are a bunch of opinionated mongers and mean no harm. In your first post you also made it seen that you really mistreated the first timer Puta and had no regards at all for her lack of experience. In any case, your contribution and sharing your experience is valuable and keep on posting. Now from reading your post I would like to find a first timer puta. The closest I got to a first timer is a 19 year old with two months on the trade. Sometimes is nice to meet someone with not so much mileage and some innocence.
Ikonic,
Don't get discouraged from posting more. We are a bunch of opinionated mongers and mean no harm. In your first post you also made it seen that you really mistreated the first timer Puta and had no regards at all for her lack of experience. In any case, your contribution and sharing your experience is valuable and keep on posting. Now from reading your post I would like to find a first timer puta. The closest I got to a first timer is a 19 year old with two months on the trade. Sometimes is nice to meet someone with not so much mileage and some innocence.Your a bad man just wanting to de-flower a virgin Puta!
And yes the posts as of lately have been a bit rough and hopefully won't discourage the new posters.
Day 3.
She bought me the first drink. We discussed 2000 dop for all night. When we got back to the room found out this is the first time she ever done something like this. She is was very nervous. She wanted to give me a blowjob with a condom. I should of figured this out because she went to take a show and I did not hear the shower water going only the sink. This means she didn't know how to use it. I immediately kicked her out of my room and dropped her to her place with no money. Hated to do it to this girl she was really nice, but really did not want to waste my time showing how to be a puta.It could just have meant that she didn't want to get her hair wet in the shower--especially if she had expensive extensions. A lot of these girls are used to just bathing with a bucket and seem to be able to maintain pretty good personal hygiene.
The way you have written this it sounds a bit brutal, that as soon as you decided she did not know how to use the shower, you "kicked her out" of your room. Especially because in your later response you said that she "had a nice shower".
I would have thought it would be a lot of fun teaching a newbie "how to be a puta", but of course we are all different, and perhaps to some people it would be a chore like cleaning out the cat litter, not to mention a waste of their valuable time.
Sometimes posters find it hard to find the words to say what they really mean or describe exactly what happened, and perhaps this is one of the cases in which language difficulties make it hard to clearly explain what really happened.
Anyway you report is appreciated and gives a valuable insight into one man's perceptions of the Sosua vacation experience. It takes courage to travel to a place where you don't speak the language and immerse yourself in the local goings-on.
I agree with other posters that if you are going to make a habit of this kind of thing, it would probably pay to learn some Spanish. I was over 50 when I started to learn Spanish, and was pretty fluent within a couple of years just from listening to CDS in my car and conversational practice on the ground without really looking at a book, so it is never too late.
I really don't know about you guys on this board. I fell personally attacked. Don't understand why. Tried to explain that I don't agree with treating girls like Ho's. But just like most woman the men on this board focused on the negative, rather than reading everything I wrote. Guys you don't know me I don't know you. You have know idea of what my life has been. I don't enjoy feeling superior to anyone. I account my success in Sosua due do to the fact that I don't make the woman feel like a puta.
I personally don't enjoy taking the away innocence from girls. I'm a scumbag and so are most guys on this board. For me it didn't feel right doing this to this girl. I guess you guys want me to talk about my emotions. Well this board is not my therapy.
For me I don't want to hardcore fuck girls. I don't want to bang the sh*t out for them. I prefer a little romance and love making. Slow grinding. I want them to want me, so they start sex all day long away where we are and at any time.
Member #4398
01-27-15, 21:02
Your a bad man just wanting to de-flower a virgin Puta!
And yes the posts as of lately have been a bit rough and hopefully won't discourage the new posters.Surfer500,
I think you are right. I'm a bad man. Just the thought of meeting a virgin puta turns me on. While the other member only could think on getting her out, I would probably have kept her for a week and provide her with the support she needed (my dick) a few lessons and some pesos to help her become a great puta. How difficult could it be to teach a virgin puta to open her leg wide, BBJ, bending over, etc?
Example:
A guy sits in Rumba with a chica for 2 hrs. Buys her no drinks and feeling her ass up and breast letting her grind up on him. He sees an even hotter girl and calls her over and then decides to go with the other chica. Now the first chica will be mad you felt her up wasting 2 hrs of her time, and now she gets nothing. She will be like hell no. She will tell you, give me something for my time. I see most guys say no and a big fight breaks out with the chica. Guys you can't do that, you have to give her something.I see that all the time and I have discussed it here. Some feel that the chica is owed nothing unless and until a deal is struck, and have given me shit here for taking her side.
In one case a monger reported having 3 contacts over two or three days, before sending her away. He wondered why she was pissed and was "losing interest".
To me it's just bad manners, if I can use that expression in a mongering context, lack of consideration.
If the puta comes up uninvited and sits beside you, you owe her nothing, but if you invite her to join you, or ask her meet you later, you have, in her mind, set that meter ticking.
There's no rule that says you owe her anything, but don't complain if she goes away with "a bad attitude".
Bad attitude begets bad attitude, the putas get hard and everybody loses.
I really don't know about you guys on this board. I fell personally attacked. Don't understand why. Tried to explain that I don't agree with treating girls like Ho's. But just like most woman the men on this board focused on the negative, rather than reading everything I wrote. Guys you don't know me I don't know you. You have know idea of what my life has been. I don't enjoy feeling superior to anyone. I account my success in Sosua due do to the fact that I don't make the woman feel like a puta.
I personally don't enjoy taking the away innocence from girls. I'm a scumbag and so are most guys on this board. For me it didn't feel right doing this to this girl. I guess you guys want me to talk about my emotions. Well this board is not my therapy.
For me I don't want to hardcore fuck girls. I don't want to bang the sh*t out for them. I prefer a little romance and love making. Slow grinding. I want them to want me, so they start sex all day long away where we are and at any time.Your not the only one on this board who has felt personally attacked by others.
But really most of the responses to your posts have been very light weight with some constructive criticism and somewhat tongue in cheek in nature. You need to have thick skin here at times and a sense of humor.
Based on what your wrote you sound more like a Saint versus a Scumbag in how you want to treat these women.
Grandnash84
01-28-15, 08:20
I really don't know about you guys on this board. I fell personally attacked. Don't understand why. Tried to explain that I don't agree with treating girls like Ho's. But just like most woman the men on this board focused on the negative, rather than reading everything I wrote.How long you been on this board for? One week? LOL if you spent anytime reading this board you waould already know its like swimming with the sharks in here LOL.
How long you been on this board for? One week? LOL if you spent anytime reading this board you would already know its like swimming with the sharks in here LOL.Welcome to the Gauntlet one and all!
Surfer500,
I think you are right. I'm a bad man. Just the thought of meeting a virgin puta turns me on. While the other member only could think on getting her out, I would probably have kept her for a week and provide her with the support she needed (my dick) a few lessons and some pesos to help her become a great puta. How difficult could it be to teach a virgin puta to open her leg wide, BBJ, bending over, etc?You and about 80 % of the members of this board would like to get their paws on a virgin Puta!
I would had a field day with the one Iconic let go.
Three Holes
01-28-15, 19:17
Just had my first day in Sosua.
I arrived on Caribe tours bus from SD, took about 5 hours, a pleasant enough trip.
Had a couple of hours walk around orientation tour and got my first taste of Haiti with a cute, curvy little 20 yo chica named Bianca that I found on the street opposite Rumba about 8 pm.
Cute eyes and smile and the best rock solid round ass I can remember getting my hands on. Would have been nice if she was a bit more relaxed but willing enough with BBBJ cock and balls. I didn't ask for CIM, I was in too much of a hurry to get that ass up in the air.
I'm around for about 10 days so will try to keep the reports coming but it's labor intensive for a one finger text is doing this on my phone.
I have pics but the "choose file" button doesn't seem to work for me. Also they might be too big, about 3-4 my each. I'll glad I take tips on how to share them.
Three Holes
01-28-15, 19:22
I forgot to mention, she asked for 2500, I hungrily agreed to 2000, did I overpay?
Member #4398
01-29-15, 03:28
I forgot to mention, she asked for 2500, I hungrily agreed to 2000, did I overpay?As for overpaying question it depends on how long you were with the girl, TLN, 2 hours, or 3-4? Also, was she a solid 8-9-10? In Sosua 2000 is probably good for a a solid good looking Dominican and for a couple of hours. I thought the Haitian girls were charging much less than the Dominicans being that many were illegal and those had no ID to verify the age and because of their competition with the more solicited Dominicans tends to lower their prices. I could be wrong thought. For what you described as a curvy, 20, cute, a nice solid round ass, 2000 seem to me like a good deal, but again it depends on current supply and demand factors. Perhaps other more experience mongers could provide more info.
Good luck and Keep on posting.
Mr Enternational
01-29-15, 05:11
I forgot to mention, she asked for 2500, I hungrily agreed to 2000, did I overpay?2000 for all night is good. If you mean 2000 for short time then fuck that shit! Take your ass to a German FKK for worldwide top notch model-type chicks if you are going to spend like that.
I forgot to mention, she asked for 2500, I hungrily agreed to 2000, did I overpay?That's a deceptively hard question to andwer. If the session was not good, then anything you paid was "too much".
A better question would be "did I pay above scale?" or "what's the going rate?
I've negotiated these rates for ST and they seem average:
500 for a 6-7, She's hungry, daytime, slow business.
1000 for a 6-8. Daytime, slow business.
1500 for a 6-8. Evening, normal business.
2000 for a 7-8. Evening, normal business.
2500 for a 7-9. Evening, weekends.
3000 for a 8-10. Evening, weekends.
3500 for a 10. Weekends, busy night (we're talking J-Lo, Beyonc, the young version, here).
With the usual disclaimer, YMMV.
Happy mongering!
2000 for all night is good. If you mean 2000 for short time then fuck that shit! Take your ass to a German FKK for worldwide top notch model-type chicks if you are going to spend like that.For the record:
(a) From center of Frankfurt to FKK and back by taxi depends on FKK but more or less..... 80 Euros.
(b) Entry to FKK.......... .. 70 Euros.
(c) One hour with chica (many Dominicans in FKK as well). ..100 Euros.
Total............. .. 250 Euros.
US $282 for one chica.
Sosua. 1 hour with chica 2000 pesos total US $44.00.
Alex Deuce
01-29-15, 14:40
That's a deceptively hard question to andwer. If the session was not good, then anything you paid was "too much".
A better question would be "did I pay above scale?" or "what's the going rate?
I've negotiated these rates for ST and they seem average:
500 for a 6-7, She's hungry, daytime, slow business.
1000 for a 6-8. Daytime, slow business.
1500 for a 6-8. Evening, normal business.
2000 for a 7-8. Evening, normal business.
2500 for a 7-9. Evening, weekends.
3000 for a 8-10. Evening, weekends.
3500 for a 10. Weekends, busy night (we're talking J-Lo, Beyonc, the young version, here).
With the usual disclaimer, YMMV.
Happy mongering!Pretty much nails all over DR save for Casa Rates witch will vary using standards of 1,500,2,500 & 3,500; Buyer beware.
That's a deceptively hard question to andwer. If the session was not good, then anything you paid was "too much".
A better question would be "did I pay above scale?" or "what's the going rate?
I've negotiated these rates for ST and they seem average:
500 for a 6-7, She's hungry, daytime, slow business.
1000 for a 6-8. Daytime, slow business.
1500 for a 6-8. Evening, normal business.
2000 for a 7-8. Evening, normal business.
2500 for a 7-9. Evening, weekends.
3000 for a 8-10. Evening, weekends.
3500 for a 10. Weekends, busy night (we're talking J-Lo, Beyonc, the young version, here).
With the usual disclaimer, YMMV.
Happy mongering!You left off some pay scales here. How about the "skanks" in the 3-5 range!
That's a deceptively hard question to andwer. If the session was not good, then anything you paid was "too much".
A better question would be "did I pay above scale?" or "what's the going rate?
I've negotiated these rates for ST and they seem average:
500 for a 6-7, She's hungry, daytime, slow business.
1000 for a 6-8. Daytime, slow business.
1500 for a 6-8. Evening, normal business.
2000 for a 7-8. Evening, normal business.
2500 for a 7-9. Evening, weekends.
3000 for a 8-10. Evening, weekends.
3500 for a 10. Weekends, busy night (we're talking J-Lo, Beyonc, the young, here).
With the usual disclaimer, YMMV.
Happy mongering!As long as I have been in the DR I've never met a 500 peso chica. I have chica offer sex for free. But never 500 pesos but I am sure they are out there. If you pay between 1500 pesos and 2500 pesos for short tern you doing average for a newbie. 2000 pesos to 3000 pesos is average for a newbie. When your skill develops you will save more.
I also always drop my chicas home if they are in Sosua, I do have a rental car. I was not disrespectful to her. I explained at the time in bed to her, sexually we don't seem compatible and I need BBBJ and I love it.
You kinda made yourself a target when you posted initially, that you immediatetly "kicked her out". I figured you might be exaggerating somewhat, and didn't mean it the way you posted it. Haven't you figured out yet what wording like that does in shark infested message board waters? Here? Just say you explained to her you and her werent compatible. Don't say you immediately kicked her out? That may not stop you from being heavily criticized for not following through, but it may be less severe.
Apparently there is a belief among some, that they get turned off or think the mood will be destroyed by asking a chica if she does BBBJ or not. IMO that's a minor concern. I'd be more turned off and/or the mood shot to shit, knowing I wasted my time and money bringing a chica to my spot, get her undressed and finding out right then, no BBBJ ( or some other service I expected ) is going to happen. Getting things straight beforehand, there is no built up anticipation. Gives a dude some leverage if a chica flakes on you. If it's yes to BBBJ, cool. A dude can get a drink for the road, especially if it will help him get over the shock of having to ask a pfp chica about her BJ service.
As long as I have been in the DR I've never met a 500 peso chica. I have chica offer sex for free. But never 500 pesos but I am sure they are out there. If you pay between 1500 pesos and 2500 pesos for short tern you doing average for a newbie. 2000 pesos to 3000 pesos is average for a newbie. When your skill develops you will save more.There are 500 Peso "Chupa" girls in Sosua.
I was offered a BJ from a Chica (not a dude}on the Strip for 500 Pesos in the park one night on a previous trip. I passed because with my luck something might of gone wrong and I wouldn't want to get caught with my pants down in public in the DR.
Three Holes
01-29-15, 16:50
Thanks Oakie and Cerebro, that's helpful stuff, you too Mr E for your charm.
I did better last night but the market forces were different, it was pissing with rain and I was one of a few stupid enough to be out there.
Another Haitian, probably about a 6-8 IMO. Agreed to 1500 for 2 hours, sex was ok but she was too flaky for me so I sent her off after an hour. Plus she's just had a new boob job so it's hands off for a while.
So far I haven't had any problems getting my junk a full BB mouth massage, to get things started.
I'm looking forward to honing my skills on upping the quality while reducing the donations. All tips appreciated, even smart ass ones.
A guy sits in Rumba with a chica for 2 hrs. Buys her no drinks and feeling her ass up and breast letting her grind up on him. He sees an even hotter girl and calls her over and then decides to go with the other chica. Now the first chica will be mad you felt her up wasting 2 hrs of her time, and now she gets nothing. She will be like hell no. She will tell you, give me something for my time. I see most guys say no and a big fight breaks out with the chica. Guys you can't do that, you have to give her something. I have a tendency to empathize more with mongers / men moreso than women / chicas. But lets look at it this way? A chica voluntarily sits with a guy in Rumba. Nobody put a gun to her head. She allows a guy to feel her up. For 2 hours the dude hasnt bought her food or a drink. She hasnt negotiated anything, nor has there been a commitment made that he was taking her. Why does he owe her money? Why isn't he open and entitled to choose who he wants to go back to his spot with?
My point is, enough people have made it seem like the chicas are always right, and they have no responsibility when it comes to their own time being wasted hanging around dudes. Why are guys so hard on each other, and quick to tell a guy he wasted his time, but when it comes to women, treat women like they are children? That woman that sits for 2 hours with a guy (maybe he's watching the game) has just as much responsibility for making sure she doesn't waste her time on a dude.
I don't think dudes should be so quick to treat these women like children. Her job is to secure clients. If she allows a dude to feel up on her, she does that knowing full well that she is only providing a sample hoping that will lead to a client. Chicas have to be just as prepared for disappointment or failed outcomes as many mongers have had to endure, and all of the bullshit coming from chicas. Why should disappointment be one sided mostly in favor chicas. Further, if a dude is buying chicas food and drink all along, and the chica complains, let her know she was compensated for her time. Easier to do if you are still in the venue and not up in your spot / hotel.
Some of these chicas are like communication companies. Even if the service is poor, you want to change companies, or you just don't want the service anymore, they still penalize you for opting out. At all times treat them with respect, but it isn't necessary to assume one owes a chica money in every instance they waste their time on a dude.
Mr Enternational
01-29-15, 18:46
For the record:
(a) From center of Frankfurt to FKK and back by taxi depends on FKK but more or less..... 80 Euros.
(b) Entry to FKK.......... .. 70 Euros.
(c) One hour with chica (many Dominicans in FKK as well). ..100 Euros.
Total............. .. 250 Euros.
US $282 for one chica.
Sosua. 1 hour with chica 2000 pesos total US $44.00.Hell. I could say taxi from Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata $200 (one way). And session with a chick at Cristal $100. Then it would be $300 for 1 chica in DR.
Buses and trains do exist in Germany. You can stay in an FKK all day and eat, drink, and be merry for the entrance fee. Not all FKKs are 100 euro for a girl.
IMHO random street chicas do not warrant $50 for short time. Your opinion may differ.
I forgot to mention, she asked for 2500, I hungrily agreed to 2000, did I overpay?I'm on the ground since Tuesday night.
A lot of rain, but the vibe seems good. It's a pity the'Latins is closed, it Looks like a big dark hole in Pedro Clisante.
My first night I felt tired because of the flight. I met a 6-7 Haitian girl in Bar Central. Good massage, BBBJ and good fuck - 1.500 Pesos. Was OK for this night. Knowing that I have a lot more days here acts like a tranquilizer, I enjoy in peace.
Wednesday night I met a Dominican girl I know from 2 years ago. I offered her 1500 for ST, she wanted 2000ST and 3000 TLN. I was too lazy and too sex drunken so I didn't negotiate. Payed 2000ST: quite good sex but nothing outstanding.
P.S: My English is not perfect. I hope it's OK for you. I want to share my experiences because this board gave me a lot of good Information.
You left off some pay scales here. How about the "skanks" in the 3-5 range!I was leaving that pay scale range to you! :)
I would give a chica some denaro if she spent a significant amount of time with me and I did not pull the trigger. This is p4 p and we all know it. For the ladies it is bread and butter for us just fun. While she was entertaining me she might have found a taker. I have no problem giving a small propina and who know the next night I may want a redo.
I have a tendency to empathize more with mongers / men moreso than women / chicas. But lets look at it this way? A chica voluntarily sits with a guy in Rumba. Nobody put a gun to her head. She allows a guy to feel her up. For 2 hours the dude hasnt bought her food or a drink. She hasnt negotiated anything, nor has there been a commitment made that he was taking her. Why does he owe her money? Why isn't he open and entitled to choose who he wants to go back to his spot with?
My point is, enough people have made it seem like the chicas are always right, and they have no responsibility when it comes to their own time being wasted hanging around dudes. Why are guys so hard on each other, and quick to tell a guy he wasted his time, but when it comes to women, treat women like they are children? That woman that sits for 2 hours with a guy (maybe he's watching the game) has just as much responsibility for making sure she doesn't waste her time on a dude.
I don't think dudes should be so quick to treat these women like children. Her job is to secure clients. If she allows a dude to feel up on her, she does that knowing full well that she is only providing a sample hoping that will lead to a client..Historically it has always been men who have paid for female company and not the other way around. Your interpretation is that time spent in a bar is equivalent to allowing her to make a sales presentation, with no obligation to buy, so there should be no penalty for taking up her time. This assumes that providing female company and touching to lonely men has no intrinsic monetary value. At different times and in different societies this may vary. You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpU-mcgBJxE
I would give a chica some denaro if she spent a significant amount of time with me and I did not pull the trigger. This is p4 p and we all know it. For the ladies it is bread and butter for us just fun. While she was entertaining me she might have found a taker. I have no problem giving a small propina and who know the next night I may want a redo.Understood and agreed. For me, unless I invite a chica to spend time with me, I wouldn't feel the need to give her money because she plopped down in a seat next to me and decided to waste her time. Now if I invite a chica, that may be another story. But even then that doesn't automatically result in a cash payment. I may provide food and drink which can substitute for cash. Either way I'm not obligated to choose her. Disappointment can happen for either party. Mongers don't have to be the only ones having to deal with it.
About a week ago a chica I know greeted me in Rumba, and asked if someone was sitting in the seat next to me. Asked if I minded her sitting there. For about 40 minutes she sat there. I talked to her, and continued conversing with the other guys I was already talking to. At the 30 minute mark, she asked me did I want a cerveza. I said no, and showed her my water.
Now, I didn't feel up on this chica, all I did talk with her as I was doing with the other guys. I didn't initiate her sitting with me. I know her asking me if I wanted a cerveza was her trying to sucker me into buying her drinks while she keeps her dinero in her purse. But I wasnt buying that. After 40 minutes does a dude still think he owes some chica some money just because she decided to waste her time on me instead of seeking work elsewhere. If that's the case every chica that plops her butt down for a significant amount of time is owed money. I don't go along with that.
Historically it has always been men who have paid for female company and not the other way around. Your interpretation is that time spent in a bar is equivalent to allowing her to make a sales presentation, with no obligation to buy, so there should be no penalty for taking up her time. This assumes that providing female company and touching to lonely men has no intrinsic monetary value. At different times and in different societies this may vary. You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpU-mcgBJxEWrong Frannie. 1st off if you want my interpretation its best to ask for it. Because you usually are offbase. Since when did I suggest time spent in a bar is the same as allowing a chica to make a sales presentation? 1st off how did the female get to spend time with a dude? Did he invite her? Did she invite herself? You left out an important distinction by leaving that detail out. Which leads to the next part in your assessment.
You assume the dude took up her time simply because shes there or in his company?. How can you be sure the dude took up the womans time, especially in cases where the woman invited herself, and the dude didn't invite the woman? Is it your belief some dude is taking up some chicas time that sits down next to him uninvited? If so, I see it differently. If chica sits down next or near me and I talk to her, I don't owe her jack. She may start flirting, touching my leg all she wants, but I did NOT take up that chicas time. She took up her own time.
If anything, she very well may have cock blocked a dude from getting with other women by taking up his time. Now guess what? Who will most guys fault for that happening? The monger, not the chica. My point is, these females have to deal with their losses when they gamble or invest time with a dude. Especially uninvited. And guys shouldnt be quick to treat these women like helpless entitled children.
A side story. I have a buddy that was entertaining a chica at our table in Rumba. I observed her rubbing his crotch a lot. After a good while he stood up abruptly and told her she had to leave. The chica was rubbing his crotch with her right hand and trying to steal his money with her left hand out of a zippered back pocket. He stopped her at the point she had the pocket halfway unzipped. He didn't get overly hyped. He just told her to leave. She tried to play it off like he was supposedly annoyed about something else. Pulled out her Eye Dee claiming she is no mafioso. He didnt want to make scene about her trying to steal his money.
She spent a considerable amount of time sitting with him. Dude still owes a chica trying to steal his money for her time and not taking her? Even if that didn't go down like that. If he realized there was something about her that wasnt compatible with his interests, she's automatically owed money? There has to be a clear distinction to when it makes sense to offer some chica compensation from when it isnt necessary. As I said before, if I invite a chica to spend time with me, the outcome may be different. But theres no automatic payment, and by no means will I assume I took up some womans time if I didnt invite her, or I discern she will not provide the services I want.
Yesterday around 1 PM the rain started to come down and it pretty much rained all night. Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds a rout the Strip. All here for Super Bowl weekend.
Tonight at 8 PM Rumbas was getting very crowded. It was like night and day compared to last Thursday night. Unfortunately it has started raining again. Live from Sosua!
Can anybody give me an update on Perla de Sosua?
Parkinsons
01-30-15, 13:24
I see that all the time and I have discussed it here. Some feel that the chica is owed nothing unless and until a deal is struck, and have given me shit here for taking her side.
In one case a monger reported having 3 contacts over two or three days, before sending her away. He wondered why she was pissed and was "losing interest".
To me it's just bad manners, if I can use that expression in a mongering context, lack of consideration.
If the puta comes up uninvited and sits beside you, you owe her nothing, but if you invite her to join you, or ask her meet you later, you have, in her mind, set that meter ticking.
There's no rule that says you owe her anything, but don't complain if she goes away with "a bad attitude".
Bad attitude begets bad attitude, the putas get hard and everybody loses.Just bumping this post in its entirety because the person making the counter-argument can't keep his points straight.
And then resorted to using straw man argument like "what if the girl sitting with you is pick-pocketing you"? Ridiculous. Why not say "what if she stabs you and you died. You have to give her some money out of your estate to pay for her time huh?
On top of it, he's totally oblivious that he was THE monger who invited a chica for 3 interviews.
Just bumping this post in its entirety because the person making the counter-argument can't keep his points straight.
And then resorted to using straw man argument like "what if the girl sitting with you is pick-pocketing you"? Ridiculous. Why not say "what if she stabs you and you died. You have to give her some money out of your estate to pay for her time huh?
On top of it, he's totally oblivious that he was THE monger who invited a chica for 3 interviews.I have always suspected that mongers who treat the chicas bad have sexual problems and deliberately try to give the chicas a bad attitude to mess it up for other mongers.
Tempoecorto
01-30-15, 14:28
Just bumping this post in its entirety because the person making the counter-argument can't keep his points straight. The smart thing to do is not to give such people a chance to soapbox, by NOT responding. That way, their soliloquy, long drawn as they are. For they love to hear themselves speak, would not last long.
Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds.
Thanks for the live report.
Tempoecorto
01-30-15, 14:36
I remember reading on one of these forums about someone going for a boat ride in a lake / lagoon in Nagua. I looked for the post but cannot find. Would the posting person please paste a link here or send me the link via a private message? I may try the lake trip if I get to go next month.
Thanks in anticipation.
Wrong Frannie. 1st off if you want my interpretation its best to ask for it. Because you usually are offbase. Since when did I suggest time spent in a bar is the same as allowing a chica to make a sales presentation? 1st off how did the female get to spend time with a dude? Did he invite her? Did she invite herself? You left out an important distinction by leaving that detail out. Which leads to the next part in your assessment.
You assume the dude took up her time simply because shes there or in his company?. How can you be sure the dude took up the womans time, especially in cases where the woman invited herself, and the dude didn't invite the woman? Is it your belief some dude is taking up some chicas time that sits down next to him uninvited? If so, I see it differently. If chica sits down next or near me and I talk to her, I don't owe her jack. She may start flirting, touching my leg all she wants, but I did NOT take up that chicas time. She took up her own time.
If anything, she very well may have cock blocked a dude from getting with other women by taking up his time. Now guess what? Who will most guys fault for that happening? The monger, not the chica. My point is, these females have to deal with their losses when they gamble or invest time with a dude. Especially uninvited...Your whole argument is that the chica is a business person or entrepreneur selling a service and that you are a potential customer. It is similar to how in the US a dentist or roofing contractor will advertise that a free checkup is available. Sure the free checkup is available, but if you start asking for a free checkup every week, you will soon find out that you are not welcome, because the real purpose of the free checkup is not that it is a free service, but that it is a sales pitch.
Anyway I agree with you that you don't owe a chica anything if she comes and plonks herself down uninvited in proximity to you and your friends in a bar. And certainly not if she is trying to pickpocket you. But if you are not interested, there are all kinds of ways to indicate to her that she might be better off pitching to another potential customer, so that if she continues to waste her time hanging around you, then that is at her own risk of time wasted.
However if she had spent considerable time dancing and flirting with you, allowing you to feel her up, and generally interacting in a more-or-less girlfriend kind of way with you, then I can see that she might be aggrieved and feel that she had already delivered a certain amount of service. That's all.
Yesterday around 1 PM the rain started to come down and it pretty much rained all night. Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds a rout the Strip. All here for Super Bowl weekend.
Tonight at 8 PM Rumbas was getting very crowded. It was like night and day compared to last Thursday night. Unfortunately it has started raining again. Live from Sosua!The rain didn't seem to bother this chica:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NFywQdeKSo
I remember reading on one of these forums about someone going for a boat ride in a lake / lagoon in Nagua. I looked for the post but cannot find. Would the posting person please paste a link here or send me the link via a private message? I may try the lake trip if I get to go next month.
Thanks in anticipation.There's a lagoon in Rio San Juan, I forget the name.
The rain didn't seem to bother this chica:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NFywQdeKSoWell I'm not sure if I would want to see what's under the skirts of those two Chicas walking in the rain, however the music was good. Can you imagine that music being played in Rumbas. All the big booty Chicas would be doing the side step and guys would be dry humping them.
In one case a monger reported having 3 contacts over two or three days, before sending her away. He wondered why she was pissed and was "losing interest".
"he wondered why she was pissed and was losing interest".
Nice touch. Your memory is failing you. But your fabrication of facts and details is excellent.
THE monger who invited a chica for 3 interviews.Now is your issue poor reading comprehension or a bad memory too? Or both? What exactly does inviting a chica consist of in your mind? Last time I recalled, briefly bumping into chica out in public twice is not inviting a chica for an interview. Other than that, I see in your own special way you got the point. I don't care how you got it. Just that you got it. The haterade in this forum is understood. Carry on.
The smart thing to do is not to give such people a chance to soapbox, by NOT responding. That way, their soliloquy, long drawn as they are. For they love to hear themselves speak, would not last long.Poor guy, haven't you been paying attention? Maybe you should just worry about yourself, instead of looking for comrades to share in ignorance. If you can't hang in a discussion that's your problem. You don't need no followers.
Riky Rapido
01-30-15, 18:58
Can anybody give me an update on Perla de Sosua?I have stayed at this hotel several times. Located behind the Popular Bank, it is on a deadend street. Rooms are clean, but it is an older hotel, older furniture. Price offsets the higher end hotels like the New Garden or Cayena. It is centrally located, chica friendly, quiet. One of my favorite places to stay in Sosua.
Poor guy, haven't you been paying attention? Maybe you should just worry about yourself, instead of looking for comrades to share in ignorance. If you can't hang in a discussion that's your problem. You don't need no followers.Not sure if your being argumentative and / or attacking just this member and / or other members with this post.
Tempoecorto
01-30-15, 20:25
There's a lagoon in Rio San Juan, I forget the name.Thanks. Perhaps I have mixed Rio San Juan up with Nagua! Old age is catching up. LOL. Thanks again.
Thanks. Perhaps I have mixed Rio San Juan up with Nagua! Old age is catching up. LOL. Thanks again.I sent you a PM about the lagoon.
ThatGuy865
01-30-15, 21:34
I have never been to the DR so I'm asking those who go frequently. It looks there is a good chance the Mayweather / Pacquiao fight might actually happen in May. If it does. Would there be any place in Sosua that would show the fight? .
Thinking of doing a "Fight" party in Sosua, if they show fights there. Does anyone know if it would likely be shown?
Yesterday around 1 PM the rain started to come down and it pretty much rained all night. Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds a rout the Strip. All here for Super Bowl weekend.
Tonight at 8 PM Rumbas was getting very crowded. It was like night and day compared to last Thursday night. Unfortunately it has started raining again. Live from Sosua!Remember last year this time. The weather was beautiful for weeks and when Super Bowl came, it rained cats & dogs.
Member #4398
01-31-15, 01:04
I remember reading on one of these forums about someone going for a boat ride in a lake / lagoon in Nagua. I looked for the post but cannot find. Would the posting person please paste a link here or send me the link via a private message? I may try the lake trip if I get to go next month.
Thanks in anticipation.I think it was me that posted that trip. You will find a post on the Sosua forum dated 09/08/14. The lake is called Laguna Gri Gri. It's a nice boat ride 2-3 hours in the scorching sun so take a cap and sun protection. The trip goes to the ocean and makes two stops at two nice beaches and to a nice beach called la piscina de Bermudez and to La Cueva de las Golondrinas. They may gringo tax you. If they ask 1000 pesos tell them you only have 500. Don't pay pay more than 700 pesos. I think I got it down to 500 but I attempted to walk out showing the money I had in my hands and then the boat rider agreed. It's difficult to tell what the actual price is cause I did not see anything posted on the price for the ride.
ReadyToGetOnIt
01-31-15, 04:18
I have never been to the DR so I'm asking those who go frequently. It looks there is a good chance the Mayweather / Pacquiao fight might actually happen in May. If it does. Would there be any place in Sosua that would show the fight? .
Thinking of doing a "Fight" party in Sosua, if they show fights there. Does anyone know if it would likely be shown?I was there for the last 2 Mayweather fights by total coincidence. I watched the first at Rumba. Super packed and crowded for free. I watched the last one at Morua Mai at the end of the strip for free. The place was empty, and I was conveniently finishing dinner when the fight started (good timing) so I stayed put.
Tempoecorto
01-31-15, 05:41
I think it was me that posted that trip. You will find a post on the Sosua forum dated 09/08/14.Much appreciated.
Thanks!
Member #4398
01-31-15, 08:29
Much appreciated.
Thanks!Tempoecorto,
I made a mistake. The trip I made were the Laguna Gri Gri is located is Rio San Juan not to Nagua. Nagua is the next town to Rio San Juan and about 37 miles away. Those towns Rio San and and Nagua can be reach easily from Sosua by taking the crowded guaguas or Carritos from one town to another (Eg. One guagua or carrito from Sosua texaco station to Gaspar Hernandez, from there another guagua or Carrito to Rio San Juan, From Rio San Juan another Guagua to Nagua). They are super cheap less than $2 dollars for over 25 miles stretches. There are also guaguas that go from Puerto Plata or the Texaco station in Sosua all the way to Nagua and one express that goes to Las Terrenas and Samana. Well Tempoecorto, have fun in the Guaguas or Carritos. Those are fun trips and true Dominican experiences and you made end up with a hot mami or a fat guy, a sack of platanos, somebody's baby, or some chickens on your laps.
Historically it has always been men who have paid for female company and not the other way around. Before I answer your other post, I want to revisit this post and address this part here. Assuming this is true, is it also true historically that men haven't always paid cash directly to a female for her company? Such as the case when you saw women drinking and eating at the expense of a man? Further I have observed pfp chicas in Sosua and elsewhere in the DR around dudes for brief moments or extended periods of time drinking and eating at some mans expense. If during the course of her being in his company she is flirting and dancing with him in some club, that's just simply what chicas do when they are having a good time.
I think some people got it twisted, as well as some chicas thinking that them dancing and grinding on a dude is some automatic confirmation that that man is supposed to take her back to his hotel / spot, or that she is owed monetary compensation. As I said before, if that female has been drinking and or eating at that mans expense, she has been compensated for her time. No dude owes a chica cash money. Especially in addition to what he already provided by her drinking / eating without using her money.
Even further, my contention is historically many women accept drinks / food as compensation for their time. At times they may be the ones, disappearing the moment their bellies are full or had enough drinks from some sucker. The same way some dude is not entitled to her company just because he "paid" for her, a female is not entitled to cash compensation just because she volunteered to spend time with a dude, dancing and flirting.
IMO this thing from SOME chicas trying to get money from a dude for their time, is some assbackwards DR logic used on unwary individuals that they think they can get over on. It's highly unlikely some chica is going to be sitting with some dude for a considerable amount of time, and not get a chance to drink a beer. As far as I'm concerned that chica is being compensated for her time. It's mainly the hustlers and trained newbie chicas thinking they are owed cash compensation.
If dudes want to throw more money away on girls they arent interested in that's their business. If chicas want to think they are entitled to cash payments for sitting with a dude, the same for them. At some point, one or the other is going to get a reality check. I suspect it will be the hustling chica. One last point, this idea of paying a chica in a club after you let her know you arent taking her back to your spot. Whats the pay scale for the send off? Mind you, this chica may have been drinking along with you. How much compensation should a chica get for her time? I don't recall members discussing this. Or have an idea what is supposed to be an acceptable rate? Suppose some dude is ready to leave or let the chica move on? He gives her 300 pesos, is that enough? Like I said before, guys are talking about chicas should be paid for their time, but I haven't read one example of what is enough. And who ultimately decides what is enough? Is this even a smart practice in the 1st place, of getting in the habit of paying chicas cash money for their company in a club?
Before I answer your other post, I want to revisit this post and address this part here. Assuming this is true, is it also true historically that men haven't always paid cash directly to a female for her company? Such as the case when you saw women drinking and eating at the expense of a man? Further I have observed pfp chicas in Sosua and elsewhere in the DR around dudes for brief moments or extended periods of time drinking and eating at some mans expense. If during the course of her being in his company she is flirting and dancing with him in some club, that's just simply what chicas do when they are having a good time.
I think some people got it twisted, as well as some chicas thinking that them dancing and grinding on a dude is some automatic confirmation that that man is supposed to take her back to his hotel / spot, or that she is owed monetary compensation. As I said before, if that female has been drinking and or eating at that mans expense, she has been compensated for her time. No dude owes a chica cash money. Especially in addition to what he already provided by her drinking / eating without using her money.
Even further, my contention is historically many women accept drinks / food as compensation for their time. At times they may be the ones, disappearing the moment their bellies are full or had enough drinks from some sucker. The same way some dude is not entitled to her company just because he "paid" for her, a female is not entitled to cash compensation just because she volunteered to spend time with a dude, dancing and flirting.
IMO this thing from SOME chicas trying to get money from a dude for their time, is some assbackwards DR logic used on unwary individuals that they think they can get over on. It's highly unlikely some chica is going to be sitting with some dude for a considerable amount of time, and not get a chance to drink a beer. As far as I'm concerned that chica is being compensated for her time. It's mainly the hustlers and trained newbie chicas thinking they are owed cash compensation.
If dudes want to throw more money away on girls they arent interested in that's their business. If chicas want to think they are entitled to cash payments for sitting with a dude, the same for them. At some point, one or the other is going to get a reality check. I suspect it will be the hustling chica. One last point, this idea of paying a chica in a club after you let her know you arent taking her back to your spot. Whats the pay scale for the send off? Mind you, this chica may have been drinking along with you. How much compensation should a chica get for her time? I don't recall members discussing this. Or have an idea what is supposed to be an acceptable rate? Suppose some dude is ready to leave or let the chica move on? He gives her 300 pesos, is that enough? Like I said before, guys are talking about chicas should be paid for their time, but I haven't read one example of what is enough. And who ultimately decides what is enough? Is this even a smart practice in the 1st place, of getting in the habit of paying chicas cash money for their company in a club?Do you really believe anyone reads your long winded posts?
Please, stop!
ThatGuy865
01-31-15, 09:45
I was there for the last 2 Mayweather fights by total coincidence. I watched the first at Rumba. Super packed and crowded for free. I watched the last one at Morua Mai at the end of the strip for free. The place was empty, and I was conveniently finishing dinner when the fight started (good timing) so I stayed put.Thanks for the info.
Your whole argument is that the chica is a business person or entrepreneur selling a service and that you are a potential customer. It is similar to how in the US a dentist or roofing contractor will advertise that a free checkup is available. Sure the free checkup is available, but if you start asking for a free checkup every week, you will soon find out that you are not welcome, because the real purpose of the free checkup is not that it is a free service, but that it is a sales pitch.
Anyway I agree with you that you don't owe a chica anything if she comes and plonks herself down uninvited in proximity to you and your friends in a bar. And certainly not if she is trying to pickpocket you. But if you are not interested, there are all kinds of ways to indicate to her that she might be better off pitching to another potential customer, so that if she continues to waste her time hanging around you, then that is at her own risk of time wasted.
However if she had spent considerable time dancing and flirting with you, allowing you to feel her up, and generally interacting in a more-or-less girlfriend kind of way with you, then I can see that she might be aggrieved and feel that she had already delivered a certain amount of service. That's all.My emphasis or whole argument as you put it, is not focused on a chica being a business person or an entrepreneur. My primary focus is that a man is not obligated to take her just because the chica spent time with the dude, danced or flirted with him, and therefore she is not automatically owed monetary compensation. Her being a business person or an entrepreneur is beside the point. I'm saying any woman around a dude in a club is not automatically owed compensation, especially monetary. She invested her time (invited or not), potentially hoping to get something out of it. If it didn't work out, so be it. She is the one that needs to discern how her time is invested, not the man.
Nobody is disputing whether or not some chica may be aggrieved because some dude didn't take her. The point is, that's just the way it is sometimes. Mongers have had to deal with disappointment all the time when chicas fall short. And so do chicas have to deal with their disappointments when their expectations or schemes fall short.
Check it. On the issue of a man having ways to let a woman know he isn't interested? It's not some mongers duty to keep chicas from the reality of disappointment. A dude may very well be interested in a chica in the moment he is socializing with her. But at the same time, may not be interested later in taking a chica back to his spot after he leaves a venue. He don't have to inform a chica ahead of time whether or not he's going to take her, or what his interests are with her. He may not even know what his intentions with the chica may be until later. That may be the whole point of interacting with her in the 1st place. At some point she will realize if he is interested in her for more than her company after socializing in the venue. It will happen at some point.
Moreover, if compensation is sought by a chica who invests her time with a dude, why isnt the onus on her to inform the dude what he owes if he doesnt take her. Shouldnt she have her own ways of letting a man know beforehand what her time is worth , if he doesnt take her? After all he aint the 1st dude she invested time with. If she herself hasnt provided that information, she has no business getting bent out of shape because some guy doesnt inform her of what his interest will be much later.
You make it seem like mongers should protect chicas from the effects of being disappointed, or perhaps you might be implying some deception or some dude is taking advantage of a chica because she allowed some dude to feel up on her, and/or suggesting men are supposed to know what a womans intentions or goals are with men? That being the case, to a certain extent, once again treating women like children. Feeling sorry for the poor chica who was bamboozled or taken advantage of by the big bad baller. I don't subscribe to any such variation of concern.
Like I observed for awhile, there seems to be an element of female worship running rampant among enough men, and to different degrees a disdain for men or anything that supports the interests, motivations and empowerment of men. Always more concern over womens feelings and disappointments. Meanwhile a different standard for men and mongers particularly. With all the shit that men talk about here and elsewhere in terms of women and their negative behavior towards men, I still see enough men are more concerned of protecting the interests of females instead of their own. But I guess in a assbackwards kinda way, protecting the female interest for some men is their way of protecting their own interests.
Do you really believe anyone reads your long winded posts?
Please, stop!Yes, and no it aint going to happen. Endure, I mean enjoy your day.
Yes, and no it aint going to happen. Endure, I mean enjoy your day.I enjoy your posts.
In fact I check online every hour so I don't miss a single one of them.
I'm a follower of yours all the way man!
I'm still dying to meet you in person and shake your hand, maybe even get your autograph or some other momento from you.
Don't let anybody down here, the forum members would be severally handicapped without all your guidance and wisdom in the ways our minds and the minds of the Chicas work in Sosua without your posts.
I have always suspected that mongers who treat the chicas bad have sexual problems and deliberately try to give the chicas a bad attitude to mess it up for other mongers.You keep posting like that and you just might make the cut at the next Sigmund Freud auditions or find yourself requiring therapy when things go bad for you with women. Blaming mongers you don't know for every chica having a bad attitude. Enough women cop bad attitudes. Especially when they can't or don't get their way, like children. For the most part they are trying to manipulate you, get you to feel guilty, to comply, or use that as a smokescreen to get over on you. dont you realize enough women do that?
Like the chicas begging for pesos, beer and other shit. Or ordering beer from another table and trying to get a dude to pay for it. Guy refuses, chica cops attitude. Withholds sex, or whatever she thinks will get under a dudes skin. Cops an attitude if a dude wont repeat or take her right then. Stop blaming men for womens issues / feelings. Every woman aint a victim just because some dude didn't allow her to have her way. No need for you to respond, especially if you are on restricted response mode. Wouldn't want you to disappoint the rest of the gang. But all the lurkers reading who get it, know where I'm coming from.
Now is your issue poor reading comprehension or a bad memory too? Or both? What exactly does inviting a chica consist of in your mind? Last time I recalled, briefly bumping into chica out in public twice is not inviting a chica for an interview. Other than that, I see in your own special way you got the point. I don't care how you got it. Just that you got it. The haterade in this forum is understood. Carry on.Unless you are lying to us, after those two "bumps" you then invited her to meet you at Rocky"s after which you then decided not to take her. You described her attitude as less than enthusiastic, and I tried to explain to you why she may have developed that attitude.
I'll add the poor reading comprehension, bad memory, to ignorant, lying, delusional and all the other insults you have thrown my way, and still wish you Happy Mongering.
Remember, we're here to help you!
Unless you are lying to us, after those two "bumps" you then invited her to meet you at Rocky"s after which you then decided not to take her. You described her attitude as less than enthusiastic, and I tried to explain to you why she may have developed that attitude.
I'll add the poor reading comprehension, bad memory, to ignorant, lying, delusional and all the other insults you have thrown my way, and still wish you Happy Mongering.
Remember, we're here to help you!This is what I wrote my challenged friend:
"It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude. And seemed impatient as I was trying to get some details straight before taking her back to my spot. It was like she didn't want the interview process to continue, just that her and I get out of there and make it to where she may have more leverage in giving a dude a problem.
During my interview I wanted to get it clear if her BJ was bareback or covered. She indicated covered. Her answer was as if she wanted to anticipate what I wanted. I told her that won't work for me, and was ready to abort. She quickly regrouped and claimed it was no problem.
Well, I've been there, done that. Many chicas will say anything just to get you to take them. And then flip the script, in your spot. The last thing a dude needs is to allow a chica in your spot and then realize you and her are at odds with each other over services and compensation. I knew her1st response, and that's the response I believed. I eventually terminated my interview because I didn't like her vibe, her attitude, and didn't think I have the chemistry I need to enjoy her. So I aborted. She didn't like it, and probably was quite surprised that I sent her on way because she was fine. Cute face, round ass, nice body overall. But all that didn't phase me. Sticking to what I want is / was more important. Multiply this by dozens of chicas over 4 months. ".
My post clearly indicated several factors that lead to me not taking that chica. YOU ASSume she copped an attitude because she had three meetings / interviews and got rejected. Ask yourself this question. Why would the chica have an attitude towards me before she was even rejected? Since I was there, the truth was, she is a hustler. The type that tries to get a guy to rush. The purpose for rushing is because she is not a good provider and doesn't intend to be. And I further revealed that when I reported that a friend of mine told me he just had the same girl at his own spot. As I recall, she asked for payment upfront, and she had a problem fully disrobing. There might have been other things he mentioned but don't recall. Either way, his intel spoke volumes of what I could have been in for dealing with that chica.
So I hate to break it to you buddy. But your Freudian assessment of why she may have an attitude was deeper than her having multiple meetings bearing no fruit. You only covered the surface potential. You wish that were the reason because you are sick like that. Her having an attitude is more likely because her con game didn't work. Like I said before. Chicas acting like children when their schemes don't work, or they don't get their way. So they try to manipulate you with attitude. Call you names, like cheapy, or say you are a bullshitter. All manipulative tactics. In addition, she claimed her BJ was covered, so why the fuck should a guy not abort if that is not what he is interested in, and she's got a bad vibe to boot?
So no I am not lying or delusional. You and a select few can't freaking read when you got blinders on, and all of this hatorade going on. And then try to twist details to make something stick. But don't fret, that's why I'm here to straighten all of that dumb manipulative shit out. Your playing the victim role. It's cute but not effective. Or maybe you are trying to gain sympathy from your comrades? Like I said before, I don't initiate, I reciprocate. If you would have kept it impersonal things would be different. But since you went personal, now you have to deal with it.
Tempoecorto
01-31-15, 15:52
Tempoecorto, I made a mistake. The trip I made were the Laguna Gri Gri is located is Rio San Juan not to Nagua.Not a problem at all. Surfer500 had already alerted me about my mistake. The guagua experience is nothing new to me, indeed I very much enjoy the full immersion with friendly people around but the ramshackle high speed carritos might be a safety hazard at high speed, my only issue.
Last July, I came back from Las Terrenas in my rented car and was wowed by the vast stretches of coconut lined empty (of people) beaches around Nagua so I may try the Lagoon to beach by boat experience if I go to the DR next month and if I have the time as I may go to Sosua / Pto Pta merely for a day or two. Much appreciated your kindness.
My emphasis or whole argument as you put it, is not focused on a chica being a business person or an entrepreneur. My primary focus is that a man is not obligated to take her just because the chica spent time with the dude, danced or flirted with him, and therefore she is not automatically owed monetary compensation. Her being a business person or an entrepreneur is beside the point. I'm saying any woman around a dude in a club is not automatically owed compensation, especially monetary. She invested her time (invited or not), potentially hoping to get something out of it. If it didn't work out, so be it. She is the one that needs to discern how her time is invested, not the man.
I am sure that this applies very well in clubs in the US, but when you travel to a foreign country and seek out places where prostitutes congregate looking for customers, what you will tend to find is prostitutes looking for customers, i.e. women who are present in the club for a specific purpose which is not leisure--they are there to exchange sex with tourists for money.
Since you are in the relatively privileged position of being a tourist on vacation (or retired) who probably has plenty of spare income to spend on entertainment after your basic needs and those of your dependents are met and these girls are probably impoverished and uneducated, and just trying to raise funds for their family's next meal or a school uniform or medicine for their child, the concept of noblesse oblige comes into play.
Yes, you are going into a prostitution environment where many of the rules of what constitutes socially acceptable behavior are by definition suspended, and you will almost certainly meet some women who are scammers, thieves, addicts, deceivers, con-artists, dishonest, and so on--but THAT is THEIR problem and they will have to deal with it, and it is YOUR responsibility to be alert to the fact that you may get swindled or cheated and to take precautions to safeguard your interests.
However this does not mean that you should suspend the same basic courtesy and consideration that would apply to anyone who comes into your life to provide personal services, whether they be your doctor, waitress, house cleaner, manicurist, or cock sucker, otherwise you will just be descending to their level and you will be no better than them.
This is what I wrote my challenged friend:
"It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude.Why not tell us what happened before "It was then......"
Like the two previous meetings with her?
Or does that part quite not fit in with your story. :)
It was like she didn't want the interview process to continue, just that her and I get out of there and make it to where she may have more leverage in giving a dude a problem.
During my interview I wanted to get it clear if her BJ was bareback or covered. She indicated covered. Her answer was as if she wanted to anticipate what I wanted. I told her that won't work for me, and was ready to abort. She quickly regrouped and claimed it was no problem.
Well, I've been there, done that. Many chicas will say anything just to get you to take them. And then flip the script, in your spot. The last thing a dude needs is to allow a chica in your spot and then realize you and her are at odds with each other over services and compensation. You say you don't regard the chicas as being in business, but the language you use shows that you regard all this as a business transaction. Things like "the interview process" and "services and compensation". In my view if these things have to be negotiated in such a businesslike way, then here probably isn't much chemistry there in the first place. It is better to act like it is a mutually passionate encounter at first with the money aspect of it as a side issue. Once you have got her juices flowing the level of service will automatically improve.
You say you don't regard the chicas as being in business, but the language you use shows that you regard all this as a business transaction. Things like "the interview process" and "services and compensation". In my view if these things have to be negotiated in such a businesslike way, then here probably isn't much chemistry there in the first place. It is better to act like it is a mutually passionate encounter at first with the money aspect of it as a side issue. Once you have got her juices flowing the level of service will automatically improve.Believe me you have to tell these chicas what you want. I have been in and witness many cases where the chemistry was good and things turn once the bedroom door closed. Some of those chicas want something for nothing. Those "Sauve papi" and "papi leche" chicas kill me with that bullshit.
Some of those chicas want something for nothing. Those "Sauve papi" and "papi leche" chicas kill me with that bullshit.Well, there are a few possibilities in this situation:
1. The chicas are trying to avoid having sex by putting you off your stroke with pleas to finish up prematurely so that they can make more money more quickly without any effort to please you or earn their compensation.
2. You are being rough or causing pain or discomfort to the chica in some way and that is why she wants to finish up.
"Suave papi" actually means "gently, papi". "Papi leche" could mean that they are trying to excite you to help you finish, or it could mean that you have been going on too long and are causing discomfort, or it could mean that they want to get it over with. The two phrases seem to contradict each other a bit as the final phase leading up to orgasm would typically be more passionate than gentle.
Either way you might as well cut your losses, because once the sexual encounter deteriorates to her asking you to be more gentle, or wanting to get it over with, it isn't going to be very good sexual encounter anyway. Some women are multiorgasmic and want to repeat, but others feel sensitive once they come once and then they want to stop.
I am not sure that you CAN prenegotiate good sex, but even if you can lay down some ground rules, once it goes bad it is hard to ever get it going good again.
Without having an actual video recording of your sexual technique, it would be difficult to know which is more often the case.
You say you don't regard the chicas as being in business, but the language you use shows that you regard all this as a business transaction. Things like "the interview process" and "services and compensation". In my view if these things have to be negotiated in such a businesslike way, then here probably isn't much chemistry there in the first place. It is better to act like it is a mutually passionate encounter at first with the money aspect of it as a side issue. Once you have got her juices flowing the level of service will automatically improve.Wrong again Frannie. I never said I don't regard the chicas as being in business. You assumed that's what you assimilated. I was trying to tell you that the emphasis of my message / argument was not focused soley on chicas being in business or entreprenuers. In other words, it plays a part but its not my whole argument like you said. You claiming I said I don't regard chicas being in business is a fallacy.
I'm still dying to meet you in person and shake your hand, maybe even get your autograph or some other momento from you.
Good luck! Clowns like him are only powerful through typing. And a waste of time meeting in person.
Well, there are a few possibilities in this situation:
1. The chicas are trying to avoid having sex by putting you off your stroke with pleas to finish up prematurely so that they can make more money more quickly without any effort to please you or earn their compensation.
2. You are being rough or causing pain or discomfort to the chica in some way and that is why she wants to finish up.
"Suave papi" actually means "gently, papi". "Papi leche" could mean that they are trying to excite you to help you finish, or it could mean that you have been going on too long and are causing discomfort, or it could mean that they want to get it over with. The two phrases seem to contradict each other a bit as the final phase leading up to orgasm would typically be more passionate than gentle.
Either way you might as well cut your losses, because once the sexual encounter deteriorates to her asking you to be more gentle, or wanting to get it over with, it isn't going to be very good sexual encounter anyway. Some women are multiorgasmic and want to repeat, but others feel sensitive once they come once and then they want to stop.
I am not sure that you CAN prenegotiate good sex, but even if you can lay down some ground rules, once it goes bad it is hard to ever get it going good again.
Without having an actual video recording of your sexual technique, it would be difficult to know which is more often the case.Most chicas that say suave papi to me do it just before I enter her or after my first 2 or 3 strokes.
Chicas say papi leche to me after the first 3 or 5 strokes. Don't forget the starfish chicas they are the worst. Starfish only happen to me two times, but the others happen to me a few times.
Believe me, its not me. The chicas pull that same bullshit to my wingmen and other guys I know. Shit like that doesn't happen to me in Rio and Costa Rica. The chicas have alot to do with it. Please beleive.
Thats a damn shame when a guy has to get that personal with these chicas. Only in DR.What is wrong with this guy? Do you want to go to WAR with everyone. Jackson, please create a thread and only allow him to post there. This guy is the village idiot for sure! Are you sure you aren't Sarah Palin??
RR.
I am sure that this applies very well in clubs in the US, but when you travel to a foreign country and seek out places where prostitutes congregate looking for customers, what you will tend to find is prostitutes looking for customers, i.e. women who are present in the club for a specific purpose which is not leisure--they are there to exchange sex with tourists for money.One important detail. The women arent exchanging sex with tourists for money, IN THE CLUB. They are there to have the opportunity to exchange sex for money.
But it's not done at the club. Therefore if a woman is trying to exchange something else (dancing with / flirting with / being felt up) with a tourist for money, she better consider making sure her potential client knows hes being charged and what is the cost. Not too many guys are going to accept some chick busting out with a verbal bill for her company. I can imagine going to one of the wholesale clubs where they have venders set up in the isles offering customers samples of food items. And then after the customer tastes and enjoys the item, tell them they have to pay for the sample they just had. Let me reiterate, a chica is not automatically owed monetary compensation because she wasted her time on a dude that decided not to take her. If she was there drinking or eating at some dudes expense, she definitely isn't owed any money.
However this does not mean that you should suspend the same basic courtesy and consideration that would apply to anyone who comes into your life to provide personal services, whether they be your doctor, waitress, house cleaner, manicurist, or cock sucker, otherwise you will just be descending to their level and you will be no better than them.Suspending basic courtesy and consideration? Care to explain what that means to you and how you applied it, in regards to mongers and chicas? And while you are at it, you made a statement that requires an explanation. And just because you said it doesn't make it so. It needs reasons to support it. But what do you mean by descending to their level? Level in regards to what?
Good luck! Clowns like him are only powerful through typing. And a waste of time meeting in person.Well Tom IMO it's better than relying on power from booze.
I can imagine going to one of the wholesale clubs where they have venders set up in the isles offering customers samples of food items. And then after the customer tastes and enjoys the item, tell them they have to pay for the sample they just had. I had one of them offer me some kind of flavored yoghurt the other day and it was so disgusting that I actually had to spit it out and the taste was still in my mouth an hour later until I ate something else with a strong flavor to get rid of it.
But these encounters are usually fleeting. I think if you took up a couple of hours of the time of one of those vendors, it would be good manners to buy at least one pack of the product.
Look, I'm not saying that anyone automatically owes a chica money for taking up her time in a bar and then deciding not to take her out, just that people need to be aware that the chicas are there to earn a living and show reasonable consideration and not be surprised if they are a bit pissed off if a couple of hours of heavy flirtation goes nowhere.
Remember that in the US people actually pay real money for lap dances, or so I have heard, something that has no financial value in the DR at all, and also pay cash for one-on-one Spanish language conversation classes for that matter.
Yes, you have correctly observed that people are not actually having sex in bars. Well done!
What is wrong with this guy? Do you want to go to WAR with everyone. Jackson, please create a thread and only allow him to post there. This guy is the village idiot for sure! Are you sure you aren't Sarah Palin??
RR.What makes me an idiot? I only state fact.
Ipanema Carioca
02-01-15, 10:35
WTF Is Wrong With you Guys? You're fighting and fussing like a bunch of bitches. No one of you is crying for Jackson because you don't like what another man thinks when he pats for pussy. All you are full of it. None of you know what the fuck you're talking about, because none of it matters if you have money. It's all about you putting money in a chica's hand and she gives you get a nutt! Do you think the hoes are putting this much thought and conversation about Sosua?? LOL! Fuckery!
Believe me you have to tell these chicas what you want. I have been in and witness many cases where the chemistry was good and things turn once the bedroom door closed. Some of those chicas want something for nothing. Those "Sauve papi" and "papi leche" chicas kill me with that bullshit.True! One of my buddies who is in Sosua for a month, has had his share of enough instances where he found out after he got a chica back to his spot that her BJ service was covered. Something he is not interested in. So, he says now before he takes a new chica back to his spot, he attempts to get that straight beforehand. The disadvantage for enough mongers is they can successfully negotiate for a type of service, but fall short because they can't really negotiate with a chica for quality of service or performance. What you get is what the chica provides. After the deed is done, that's when you know what you paid for.
But these encounters are usually fleeting. I think if you took up a couple of hours of the time of one of those vendors, it would be good manners to buy at least one pack of the product.
Look, I'm not saying that anyone automatically owes a chica money for taking up her time in a bar and then deciding not to take her out, just that people need to be aware that the chicas are there to earn a living and show reasonable consideration and not be surprised if they are a bit pissed off if a couple of hours of heavy flirtation goes nowhere.
Remember that in the US people actually pay real money for lap dances, or so I have heard, something that has no financial value in the DR at all, and also pay cash for one-on-one Spanish language conversation classes for that matter.Thats where enough folks differ from folks like yourself. You may be wired to behave like you should pay for a product out of some belief system. But that belief system is not a right or wrong matter. In other words, a person who elects not to pay for a product is no less being mannerly than the person who takes it upon themselves to buy the product. Which essentially is done IMO from feeling guilty for taking or enjoying something they didn't pay for, but was offered for free. In most instances, the individuals offering the samples arent being manipulative, it's just that enough people are wired to internalize and emote guilt and / or a sense of obligation based on their belief system. So they pay for shit they may not even want.
Tying it into mongering. This is one reason why a lot of dudes fall for giving their money way to beggars, touts, the hustling kids, chicas asking for pesos, beer etc. Enough individuals have internalized guilt mechanisms, making them easy targets. So now when in the club, and some chica comes over to talk, get drinks, pesos or food from a dude, some guys don't know how to respond to being approached. They may feel saying no, will make them look bad. Or if they say no, it still triggers feelings of guilt and / or they don't like seeing a chica bust out with an attitude by not complying with a simple request.
However, there are more than enough mongers who arent wired like that. They treat chicas, touts, beggars venders accordingly. They don't feel the need to always give their money away, especially without some form of commensurate reciprocation. The lowest form being them receiving sincere appreciation, for what was given / offered to others.
The thing I am trying to get across here is this. In a previous post you gave clear suggestions for what mongers could or should be doing to protect their interests. Makes sense. But at the same time, as a man you have virtually zero to say for women when it comes to a womans own responsibility to protect her own interests. Your concern for men protecting their own interests kinda supports a dual motivation. You want men to protect their own interests, but then suggest that men could be protecting womens interests as well.
I have been advocating, that both need to take responsibility for their own interests, independently. And that we don't need men telling other men what to do to protect women from themselves. When a woman decides to step to a man to flirt, get felt up, waste time with him, the onus is on her to deal with the consequences, especially for not informing some dude that she is owed compensation if he decides not to take her back to his place pay for sex. You want to put the responsibility on men to be thoughtful and reasonably considerate towards a female for spending time ( in the club/bar ) with a dude. Hogwash. Let that female take responsibility for her own behavior. Let that female show some reasonable consideration by understanding that no man is obligated to pay a chica just because she offers a comfort or company.(in a club/bar )
Shit, just as much as he is enjoying her company, his company has value too. What he has to offer may be substantially better than what she has going on. Anything she does to get further than a meeting in a club, there are no guarantees that she will leave with that dude. That is what those females need to get straight, and not get pissed when some dude doesn't take them. And besides, if being compensated for her time is that important to her, then maybe they better change their MO, and start stating the prices for their company up front ( in the club/bar ). And if they arent going to do that, then don't get pissed with dudes that don't want to pay cash, or don't even have a clue he was running a tab because she "acted like a girlfriend" ( in the club/bar ) That can happen when you are only acting, instead of being sincere and genuine.
Again, why don't you have rules, suggestions for females in the game on how they should protect their own interests in this matter? This is the kind of stuff that is assbackwards when it comes to enough men. Enough men will tell a man what his responsibilities are to himself or towards women, but barely touch the surface when it comes to women taking responsibility for their own interests. When does good manners and reasonable consideration kick in for chicas towards mongers? Isn't it reasonably considerate to let a monger know he's running a tab on some womans company ( in the club/bar)?
Or is it, once again men are supposed to know what the deal is and express to chicas early if they arent interested. See what I mean? You got one standard of disclosure for men to inform women of their intent, but none for women towards men when they are in a mans company but expect to be paid or get pissed like the man doesn't have the right to choose somebody else. Men are supposed to remember the prostitute is working for a living? But the prostitute isn't reinforced to remember that it's the mans right to choose who he wants to be with?
Bullshit! In this instance, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't think men should entertain listening to anyone, who has one standard for men, and another or non existent standard for women.
This is what I wrote my challenged friend:
"It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude. And seemed impatient as I was trying to get some details straight before taking her back to my spot. It was like she didn't want the interview process to continue, just that her and I get out of there and make it to where she may have more leverage in giving a dude a problem.LOL.
You conveniently left out the first part of your post. You "bumped into her twice before, which means that your "interview process" was at least the third meeting, before you decided not to take her.
And you tell us "it was as like she didn't want the interview process to continue".
LOL Obviously your meticulous interview technique was wasted on this puta.
We here can sympathize with her.
Look, I'm not saying that anyone automatically owes a chica money for taking up her time in a bar and then deciding not to take her out,Since you also believe no chica is automatically owed for taking up her time in a bar, when some dude decides not to take her. That suggests that there are some instances where you believe a chica should not or will not be compensated with cash if a dude doesn't take her.
So, could you please tell when a chica shouldn't get paid or when it isn't necessary? In other words, I want to know what criterior or circumstances you believe would warrant a chica (who spends time in a bar flirting, getting felt up, playing girlfriend etc) NOT getting paid when some dude decides not to take her?
The thing I am trying to get across here is this. In a previous post you gave clear suggestions for what mongers could or should be doing to protect their interests. Makes sense. But at the same time, as a man you have virtually zero to say for women when it comes to a womans own responsibility to protect her own interests. Your concern for men protecting their own interests kinda supports a dual motivation. You want men to protect their own interests, but then suggest that men could be protecting womens interests as well.The more you write, the more you shoot yourself in the foot, because you are completely ignoring the context in which you are meeting these women in Sosua.
By an accident of birth, you have been born in a country where your passport allows you to buy a ticket to any place in the world if you can afford to buy it. However if you had been born Dominican or Haitian, your passport would only make it possible for you to visit the other half of the island you were born in, unless you go through a great deal more to prove your bona fides and get a visa to go somewhere else.
You were also born into a country where prenatal health care is available to all, free school meals if you can't afford them, subsidized health care if your parents could not afford to pay for it, free schooling, free buses to take you to school, and so on.
You were born into a country whose currency allows you to purchase the labor of people in poorer countries at very little labor cost to you. You probably earn more in an hour than the average Dominican or Haitian earns in a day. Or if you don't work, then you have a pension or inherited money that adds up to the same equivalent.
Furthermore, you have enough education to be able to get a job that pays you enough to be able to afford to frequently travel overseas.
And yet your regard these third world prostitutes who are mostly less than half your age and living from hand to mouth as your peer group!
Check your privilege so that you don't come across as the Ugly American when you travel overseas.
LOL.
You conveniently left out the first part of your post. You "bumped into her twice before, which means that your "interview process" was at least the third meeting, before you decided not to take her.
And you tell us "it was as like she didn't want the interview process to continue".
LOL Obviously your meticulous interview technique was wasted on this puta.
We here can sympathize with her.No my dimwitted friend. The other meetings were not relevant. If you researched my past post correctly, I said "Later, I got her to come to Rockys. There I started my interview process. It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude. ".
You got it now my dimwitted comrade? You had it twisted like the attitude was from her having multiple meetings/interviews. I had to straighten you out before for assuming that knee jerk nonsense. But you are hardheaded.
When she got to Rockys, then I noticed she had an air of attitude. Now try not to be overly dense here. Think this thing out clearly. She didn't have an attitude the 1st time I met her. She didn't have an attitude at the playa. She was cool, and she agreed to meet later. When she got to Rockys, I noticed then something was going on. Her demeaner may have had nothing to do with me. Didn't matter. I decided I don't need someones bad vibe no matter where it came from, nor do I need to be rushed. After getting more reasons for not taking her, I informed her I was not taking her. She left pissed. You like a hyena saw me type her having an attitude and immediately jumped on that bit of information, and attributed it to her having an attitude because of the two meetings previously she wasnt taken.
Which was just you being a typical DH on this forum. But I hope you got it straight? If not? No problem. I got you covered buddy.
No my dimwitted friend. The other meetings were not relevant. If you researched my past correctly, I said "Later, I got her to come to Rockys. There I started my interview process. It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude. ".
You got it now my dimwitted comrade? When she got to Rockys, then I noticed she had an air of attitude. Now try not to be overly dense here. Think this thing out clearly. She didn't have an attitude the 1st time I met her. She didn't have an attitude at the playa. When she got to Rockys, I noticed then something was going on. Her demeaner may have had nothing to do with me. Didn't matter. I decided I don't need someones bad vibe no matter where it came from, nor do I need to be rushed. Afterward I informed her I was not taking her, she left pissed. You like a hyena saw me type her having an attitude and immediately juped on that bit of information, and attributed her attitude to the chica not being taken the 1st two times.
Which was just you being a typical DH on this forum. But I hope you got it straight? If not? No problem. I got you covered buddy.I rest my case! :)
Since you also believe no chica is automatically owed for taking up her time in a bar, when some dude decides not to take her. That suggests that there are some instances where you believe a chica should not or will not be compensated with cash if a dude doesn't take her.
So, could you please tell when a chica shouldn't get paid or when it isn't necessary? In other words, I want to know what criterior or circumstances you believe would warrant a chica (who spends time in a bar flirting, getting felt up, playing girlfriend etc) NOT getting paid when some dude decides not to take her?When the guy didn't deliberately string her along or give her false hopes of a paid sex date, and didn't take up her time for an unnecessarily long time if he knew he wasn't going to exit with her. When she aggressively pursued him and he made it clear he was not interested, but she persisted anyway. When he had paid her for sex in the past, but didn't want to repeat.
Anyway payment or tipping is all relative. If it was very late at night, he might make sure she had enough money to get a taxi home to Puerto Plata or wherever, which might just be 50 pesos for the publico plus 50 pesos for a motoconcho at the other end. Or if she hadn't eaten all evening or all day, maybe 100 pesos to get a burrito or a piece of chicken or something. Hardly more than what you would spend to tip the barmaid for serving you some beers.
Actually I didn't say in previous posts that one should necessarily pay the chica for wasted time, just you should not be surprised if she is angry at being strung along and then discarded, if she has invested time on your behalf and passed by other opportunities. However since you have raised the topic, it might be appropriate to give her a small gratuity as outlined above, however be careful that you don't create a situation where she thinks she can come to you any time she needs 100 pesos for something.
The more you write, the more you shoot yourself in the foot, because you are completely ignoring the context in which you are meeting these women in Sosua.
By an accident of birth, you have been born in a country where your passport allows you to buy a ticket to any place in the world if you can afford to buy it. However if you had been born Dominican or Haitian, your passport would only make it possible for you to visit the other half of the island you were born in, unless you go through a great deal more to prove your bona fides and get a visa to go somewhere else.
You were also born into a country where prenatal health care is available to all, free school meals if you can't afford them, subsidized health care if your parents could not afford to pay for it, free schooling, free buses to take you to school, and so on.
You were born into a country whose currency allows you to purchase the labor of people in poorer countries at very little labor cost to you. You probably earn more in an hour than the average Dominican or Haitian earns in a day. Or if you don't work, then you have a pension or inherited money that adds up to the same equivalent.
Furthermore, you have enough education to be able to get a job that pays you enough to be able to afford to frequently travel overseas.
And yet your regard these third world prostitutes who are mostly less than half your age and living from hand to mouth as your peer group!
Check your privilege so that you don't come across as the Ugly American when you travel overseas.Frannie, I'm not entertaining any of that. Just address the issues I presented to you. Don't deflect from the issues and make this about me, like the other numnuts. I challenged you to give me reasons to support your position, and you also have the opportunity to tell me why what I said is wrong or carries no weight.
I gave you my perspective, and I explained in detail so you can grasp it. Thats all I need back from you.
Frannie, I'm not entertaining any of that. Just address the issues I presented to you. Don't deflect from the issues and make this about me, like the other numnuts. I challenged you to give me reasons to support your position, and you also have the opportunity to tell me why what I said is wrong or carries no weight.
I gave you my perspective, and I explained in detail so you can grasp it. Thats all I need back from you.Yes, it is relevant because you find the notion that you might have any kind of duty of care towards these poor women anathema.
In my opinion, although the Hippocratic oath is not strictly speaking relevant to the situation, the dictum that you should "do no harm" is a useful one and I would rather err on the side of generosity than going to the other extreme. Many of these young women have been abused in some way during their developmental process, and while, like you, I don't want to hear all the details and sob stories, I also want to rest easy that I have not contributed any further hardship to their lives.
So I think it is reasonable to treat them with consideration and does no harm to try to imagine how they might perceive a night in Sosua from their perspective as well as yours. I think a lot of the "sex dates gone bad" stories are the result of mutual lack of empathy and failure to communicate, and that guys will get better sexual experiences if they adopt my point of view rather than yours.
Believe me, its not me. The chicas pull that same bullshit to my wingmen and other guys I know. Shit like that doesn't happen to me in Rio and Costa Rica. The chicas have alot to do with it. Please beleive.In that case you are better off going to Costa Rica or Brazil unless there are factors other than sex that draw you to the DR.
Personally I started to go to the DR several years ago precisely because it afforded opportunities to have casual sex with attractive young women who were not the kind of hardened drug-addict hookers that one might find in the US, but rather normal young women who just needed some extra money to supplement their low income jobs or lack of employment and who were functioning members of the community in other respects, and over the years I have had many excellent sexual relationships, both long term and short term, with Dominican women and although I have no idea of the number, it could be about 200 mas o menos.
Obviously some sexual encounters would be better than others, but when they turned out to be a bust, I would quickly cut bait, then get back in the saddle again to look for a better experience to wipe out any lingering disappointment.
Somewhere along the line I switched my focus to Haitian women as I found them to be more simpatico.
I am pretty much retired from mongering now. I can take it or leave it, and while I enjoy an occasional encounter, it is not very much the focus of my life. Last time I was in Sosua, I don't remember even seeing a hooker and didn't go in any of the bars.
So maybe the type of chica I like is no longer available, I don't know. But if you are not finding what you want in the DR, then it is best to go somewhere else.
When the guy didn't deliberately string her along or give her false hopes of a paid sex date, and didn't take up her time for an unnecessarily long time if he knew he wasn't going to exit with her.Are you assuming a discussion would have taken place between the chica and the dude about him taking her? Because the reality most often, there is no such discussion. The false hope and feelings of being strung along are clearly the chicas own presumptions based on "he didn't send me away, so he must want me" "he bought me a beer, so he's taking me back to his place for sex" " I spent 45 minutes with this dude, so he owes me" "I met him 3 times out in public, and he still hasnt taken me, he is giving me false hope and deliberately stringing me along" Hogwash. Thats all manipulative chica logic, and those that have empathy for them.
And that's the extent of the chicas quest for knowledge of a mans intentions or lack thereof. Just because he didn't do this or that, he strung her along or gave her false hope. Once again putting the onus on men to protect a womans interest. Now if we were talking about a man who discussed his intentions upfront that he was taking her that's one thing. But we know you arent talking about that. All a man is doing is spending time with the woman and if he isn't interested in taking her from there, that's considered stringing her along, taking up her time, and giving her false hope.
Like I said before, where is the chicas responsibility to herself? Isn't it her responsibility to seek information from a dude about his intentions of taking her? Not assume because a dude is allowing her to spend a certain amount time in a club is some silent communication indicating he's interested and will pay for sex later. I don't buy that stringing women along or false hope crap. Thats a woman problem, not a man problem.
And if you want to look at it like that fine. But I'll say this about chicas that hang around a dude giving men false hopes of having a great sexual experience but not delivering. Leaving before the agreed upon time. Flipping the script up in his spot. Remember you telling me before about how men needed to look out for their interests from things like this? Well what do you think women should be doing? Crying and whining? No.
If women arent going to be providing the same consideration to men, then they can't expect men to do it for them. A woman is just going to have to look out for her own interests, and discern how she spends her time in the club / bar with men.
What makes me an idiot? I only state fact.I was not referring to you as the idiot.
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Now if we were talking about a man who discussed his intentions upfront that he was taking her that's one thing. But we know you aren't talking about that. All a man is doing is spending time with the woman and if he isn't interested in taking her from there, that's considered stringing her along, taking up her time, and giving her false hope.
Like I said before, where is the chicas responsibility to herself? Isn't it her responsibility to seek information from a dude about his intentions of taking her? Not assume because a dude is allowing her to spend a certain amount time in a club is some silent communication indicating he's interested and will pay for sex later. I don't buy that stringing women along or false hope crap. That's a woman problem, not a man problem.
Again you are ignoring the context.
The typical plot of a novel or movie, as we all know, is 1. Boy meets girl. 2. Boy gets girl. 3. Boy loses girl. 4. Boy gets girl back.
Now lets look at a more advanced plot:
1. Boy meets girl.
2. Boy leaves girl.
3. Girl is angry.
If we take this completely out of context, then, yes, we might ask why girl is angry.
But if we fill in the information by asking questions like who are these people and how did they come to be in the same place at the same time, then we will have a lot more information.
If the man has traveled from overseas to a place where there are prostitution bars because he wants to pay women for sex, and the woman has come to the bar dressed up in the clothes of a typical prostitute because she is selling sex and wants to advertise this, then both parties have expectations that may be fulfilled or disappointed.
If the man spends extended time in the company of a woman in the bar, getting into her personal space, touching her body, flirting, etc. And she squeezes his dick through his pants and he gets hard, then he is creating the expectation that he will hire her as his bed partner, and she will probably be disappointed if she waits around for him posing like his girlfriend in front of his buddies, and after a couple of hours he yawns and says he is off to beddy byes and leaves her in the bar.
OK she picked the wrong guy. Perhaps she should have asked him if he was planning to take her home and left if he did not give an unequivocal yes. But she didn't. Perhaps because she didn't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off and lose a potential customer, I don't know. Both parties might have communicated better so as to not waste each others time.
No my dimwitted friend. The other meetings were not relevant. If you researched my past post correctly, I said "Later, I got her to come to Rockys. There I started my interview process. It was then that I focused on what I detected as her having an air of attitude. ".
You got it now my dimwitted comrade? You had it twisted like the attitude was from her having multiple meetings/interviews. I had to straighten you out before for assuming that knee jerk nonsense. But you are hardheaded.
When she got to Rockys, then I noticed she had an air of attitude. Now try not to be overly dense here. Think this thing out clearly. She didn't have an attitude the 1st time I met her. She didn't have an attitude at the playa. She was cool, and she agreed to meet later. When she got to Rockys, I noticed then something was going on. Her demeaner may have had nothing to do with me. Didn't matter. I decided I don't need someones bad vibe no matter where it came from, nor do I need to be rushed. After getting more reasons for not taking her, I informed her I was not taking her. She left pissed. You like a hyena saw me type her having an attitude and immediately jumped on that bit of information, and attributed it to her having an attitude because of the two meetings previously she wasnt taken.
Which was just you being a typical DH on this forum. But I hope you got it straight? If not? No problem. I got you covered buddy.I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the interview process conducted by the Mongerers on this board.
Getting bad vibes from the Chicas could indicate several things, perhaps they are repulsed by the appearance and / or the demeanor of the mongerer, hence the attitude issues. Perhaps there's a communication disconnect, not language wise, but the Chica trying to comprehend what the Mongerer is saying or asking of them, or the Mongerer's responses to what they are telling or saying to them.
Anyways, sounds like you just had another failed negotiation which would be frustrating for anybody. A little charm with these Chicas goes a long way which some Mongerer's make no attempt at.
To reduce failed negotiations, a Mongerer with communication issues might consider going after the "lower hanging" fruit Chicas. The really "skanky" Chicas and the deaf mutes fit into this category as communication shouldn't be an issue for the Mongerer.
These "lower hanging" fruit Chicas are ripe for the picking but aren't my cup of tea, however they might be right up your alley.
After two weeks in Sosua all good things must come to an end. No worries though, this time next week I'll be in Thailand and Cambodia for a month so I'm not in tears.
This last Thursday and into the weekend has seen tons and tons of Chicas swarming the streets / bars and probably has been one of the best weekends in a long time in Sosua. The assortment has been amazing with Chicas in all shapes, sizes, and colors. I felt like a dog in heat, wanting to hump them right and left!
Imagine banging any Chica in Sosua without a condom with no risk of getting or giving the Chica a disease, not impregnating them after cream pie-ing them, and being able to pop a nut every hour on the hour like Old Faithful.
I would set-up shop at Bar Central in the Hotel behind the bar. They have lots of rooms, and I would rent a couple of rooms. One as a waiting room to be rotated with the other to do the deed in. I would even retain a towel handler, just like in Tijuana my home base. I might even take two girls at a time in and line them up on the bed for try-outs with the winner getting my leche.
On Friday afternoon at Bar Central there was a line-up of Haitians with their bubble gum butts waiting to be plucked and put on all fours for some doggy action! I even saw a light skinned Chica with an Egyptian hairdo I wanted to do in front of Rumbas. Big butts, so many of them, I think they where in the majority.
Sosua at times can be such a good candy store.
Well it's just a dream, but perhaps could be reality.
Every one has there own opinions as weird as they may be. No one is ever going to agree all the time. I have met wrx and hooked Frannie up with a girl for a 3 some. Both are good guys. I am not enjoying the back and forward. Lets get banging pretty young girls. I will be on the ground in a month. I would like to do a real 3 some. Not interested I a BS happy hour. Let's get back to having fun. Anyone have a Sosua chicas for as real 3 some
Every one has there own opinions as weird as they may be. No one is ever going to agree all the time. I have met wrx and hooked Frannie up with a girl for a 3 some. Both are good guys. I am not enjoying the back and forward. Lets get banging pretty young girls. I will be on the ground in a month. I would like to do a real 3 some. Not interested I a BS happy hour. Let's get back to having fun. Anyone have a Sosua chicas for as real 3 someI have lots of fun in Sosua, however the banter back and forth at times on this board goes deeper than differing opinions.
Personally attacking others and making other's look stupid is the downer here which I have been guilty of myself.
Anyways, I'm with you about having fun, and there should be a truce among the warriors here.
In regards to having a three some I assume you where referring to 2 Chicas and one guy. If that's the case, sign me up for three Chicas for a 4 some!
Also I like them in the 30 year old range versus the real young ones. There's nothing like a well seasoned prime nympho to get the leche out of you.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the interview process conducted by the Mongerers on this board.
Getting bad vibes from the Chicas could indicate several things, perhaps they are repulsed by the appearance and / or the demeanor of the mongerer, hence the attitude issues. Perhaps there's a communication disconnect, not language wise, but the Chica trying to comprehend what the Mongerer is saying or asking of them, or the Mongerer's responses to what they are telling or saying to them.
Anyways, sounds like you just had another failed negotiation which would be frustrating for anybody. A little charm with these Chicas goes a long way which some Mongerer's make no attempt at.
To reduce failed negotiations, a Mongerer with communication issues might consider going after the "lower hanging" fruit Chicas. The really "skanky" Chicas and the deaf mutes fit into this category as communication shouldn't be an issue for the Mongerer.
These "lower hanging" fruit Chicas are ripe for the picking but aren't my cup of tea, however they might be right up your alley.If he has the same attitude towards the chicas as he has in this forum, you can see why they may "lose interest" in his "interview process". :)
After two weeks in Sosua all good things must come to an end. No worries though, this time next week I'll be in Thailand and Cambodia for a month so I'm not in tears.
This last Thursday and into the weekend has seen tons and tons of Chicas swarming the streets / bars and probably has been one of the best weekends in a long time in Sosua. The assortment has been amazing with Chicas in all shapes, sizes, and colors. I felt like a dog in heat, wanting to hump them right and left!
Imagine banging any Chica in Sosua without a condom with no risk of getting or giving the Chica a disease, not impregnating them after cream pie-ing them, and being able to pop a nut every hour on the hour like Old Faithful.
I would set-up shop at Bar Central in the Hotel behind the bar. They have lots of rooms, and I would rent a couple of rooms. One as a waiting room to be rotated with the other to do the deed in. I would even retain a towel handler, just like in Tijuana my home base. I might even take two girls at a time in and line them up on the bed for try-outs with the winner getting my leche.
On Friday afternoon at Bar Central there was a line-up of Haitians with their bubble gum butts waiting to be plucked and put on all fours for some doggy action! I even saw a light skinned Chica with an Egyptian hairdo I wanted to do in front of Rumbas. Big butts, so many of them, I think they where in the majority.
Sosua at times can be such a good candy store.
Well it's just a dream, but perhaps could be reality.Well, I've had something close using those very premises. Never saw the towel handler, though.
Bang, bang, bang three in a row, in the space of an hour or so, and 2 were indeed heaven!
Yes, it is relevant because you find the notion that you might have any kind of duty of care towards these poor women anathema.
In my opinion, although the Hippocratic oath is not strictly speaking relevant to the situation, the dictum that you should "do no harm" is a useful one and I would rather err on the side of generosity than going to the other extreme. Many of these young women have been abused in some way during their developmental process, and while, like you, I don't want to hear all the details and sob stories, I also want to rest easy that I have not contributed any further hardship to their lives.
So I think it is reasonable to treat them with consideration and does no harm to try to imagine how they might perceive a night in Sosua from their perspective as well as yours. I think a lot of the "sex dates gone bad" stories are the result of mutual lack of empathy and failure to communicate, and that guys will get better sexual experiences if they adopt my point of view rather than yours.I wish you could understand this. Just because I am discussing this issue about female responsibility, that doesn't mean I operate like some of the dudes that have women around them at the club / bar.
First off, I don't go to places like Rumba that often. When I do I am enjoying the view, meeting up with some buddies, saying Hello, to many of the chicas I know. Every now and then, I may take a chica home. My MO, is not about inviting chicas to sit down to drink. If I see somebody I like, I may go to where they are sitting and strike up a conversation. I'm generally not going to ask a chica to sit down with me. But I'm also not going to a chicas table to set myself up to pick up their bar tab, or find myself paying for several chicas that conveniently show up at the table.
Been there, done that. Observed it enough with other men. Enough chicas try to run game on dudes by getting them to buy food and / or drink. At that point, they may not even be focused on the dude taking them. Their pursuit is get some dude to spend money on them.
I don't entertain any of that. Now what I do, if I meet a chica I intend to take back to my spot, I may stop off to one of the dominican restaurants and pick up some food to take out. I avoid drinking out, because I have enough alcohol and soft drinks in my place. I don't need to buy drinks in the bar / club.
I don't bring chicas to the playa, and I usually don't invite chicas to come sit with me there. Especially to feed them or pay for drinks. I take numbers and touch base with them later. So on this issue, I'm not a dude that has chicas around me for any extended period of time, so they might think I'm taking them.
Now here's something a few here didn't know. The chica that some of these guys are reading about, the one I bumped into twice and then had the interview later. I bought her a meal and a Presidente at Rockys. So IMO, her time was compensated for, even though I hadn't taken her to my spot. After she got pissed, she immediately told me I owe her for her time. To which my reply was, no I don't. I just paid over 500 pesos for your food. I'm not giving you money too! She walked off pissed, but she didn't give me a major problem or argue me down or refuse to leave. Probably because she didn't have much leverage. She was just trying to be greedy. It's also possible with her attitude / vibe I'm not the only dude that elected not to take her, so she was prepared to leave if things didnt work out.
So even when some dudes try to be considerate of a chicas time, some chicas try to take advantage of that. I don't usually sit down in restaurants with chicas, but I made an exception in her case. The good thing is, that 500 peso interview was well spent, rather than me taking her back to my spot and us having a bigger problem, and her expecting more money and we didn't do the deed. Plus I got to do a good thing. Feed someone who needed a meal. Even with her bad attitude / vibe, I still showed consideration for her time by offering to buy a meal. She also didn't seem appreciative.
I know none of this sounds like how I would operate, based on the content in my posts. But as I explained before, message board posts / discussions is not necessarily a representation of ones character, total beliefs or how they operate in daily life.
Back to the issue. For guys that feel a chica is owed something for her time, how much should she be paid? What range? OTOH, to a certain extent, I would think some chicas might be insulted by some dude handing them something like 300 pesos, and walking off. Was it a year or 2 ago, a buddy of mine had a chica that wanted 1500 pesos for her time up in Rumbas? He was a newbie, and another monger had paid the chica a lessor amount for her to move on. But that chica caused a major scene as I recall.
Every one has there own opinions as weird as they may be. No one is ever going to agree all the time. I have met wrx and hooked Frannie up with a girl for a 3 some. Both are good guys. I am not enjoying the back and forward. Lets get banging pretty young girls. I will be on the ground in a month. I would like to do a real 3 some. Not interested I a BS happy hour. Let's get back to having fun. Anyone have a Sosua chicas for as real 3 someOld Kool, I'm sure you recall months ago you and I going back and forth the same way, as Oakie, Surfer, Temp, Tom and others that are in the same zone. No matter how much I explained on the boards that we don't know each other, that you can't judge a person or their character, don't have a full representation of a person just from discussions / debates etc, we kept bumping heads.
I'm sure I mentioned before, that if any of us met each other face to face, and interacted with each other, you would see a real person in front of us. Someone who has a life, family, worked hard, is liked and appreciated by those that know him. But in spite of saying that, back then, I couldn't get none of you to see that or stop the nonsense. So the online quarreling continued.
It took us unintentionally meeting for you to see me as a real person rather than some message board personna. We had the opportunity to discuss some of the same issues we generally talk about, but without the usual blockages to understanding and BS we were accustomed to. Remember, you saying stuff like I could never be your wingman, and a whole bunch of other personalized stuff all because you thought in real life that I treat chicas like shit. Or you felt that I constantly have problems with chicas, because of how I supposedly am as a person. That my PERCEIVED message board representation in expression was me as a whole person. I have to admit, you looked quite surprised when I revealed to you who I was. It was almost like a bubble was burst because online you had a fixed way of how you would respond to me. But to see me in person, you knew right then and there , it wasnt necessary for us to see each other as online adversaries. At that point we had already spent maybe 20 or 30 minutes sitting there talking.
My friend that was with me in Rockys, I told him after you left, that you were one of the guys I was going back and forth with online. My point is, it shouldn't have taken us to meet for you or any of these other guys to realize that you can't judge how a person is in real life by the way someone expresses themselves in writing. Or because someone is focused in debate / argument. You miss so much from a person not being in front of you. Their facial expressions, sincerity, tone, full disclosure and details etc.you get to ask questions to make sure you got it right.
Not to mention, the reader is the one who interprets or assimilates the information. How it was received doesnt mean that is how it was conveyed. Your not going to get every nook and cranny detail of what goes on in someones report, or their world either. And a poster is not going to know every good deed you did for others, like buying chicas / families groceries, a cell phone, helped with rent, school, bought perfume etc vs, a report focusing on negative behaviors a monger should be on the lookout for, or talking about beggars, touts, thieves and scam artists.
I emphasized all too often for individuals to seek feedback and ask questions so you get a better idea of a persons POV. I tend to practice that , and try to do it often, but it gets me nowhere with certain individuals stuck in a zone they can't get out of. If they can't offer a counter argument related to the discussion, they in turn decide they'll just attack what they perceive of the person online. I point that stuff out all the time, and the stuff continues.
I could very well meet every dude on here that is acting just like you did towards me back then, but I'd rather sit back and just watch them continue to make assholes of themselves in their online representation, thinking theyve got some enemy / bully poster on their hands. LOL. It is comical. I wouldn't be surprised if some dudes recently in Sosua already interacted with me, but didn't know it. There are several well know posters in this forum that know me on a personal level, or know me enough that I believe they don't regard me as an asshole.
And they know or havent seen me dog chicas or disrespect any, don't call women bitches or talk like that. They are aware I have favoritas that I deal with moreso than searching the clubs for chicas. I'm generous, considerate, helpful, and act like a brother when we are together. Some I've picked up and dropped off to the airport. They read this forum, they see the exchange, but they are not going to say anything or get involved. They just watch. And weve talked about it off the boards. But we arent consumed with talking about ISG, because were too busy relating to what is in front of us in real time. Good times as friends, sharing info about life, and enjoying chicas. There is a life beyond ISG. You and me have no quarrels in real life. As for the rest, maybe one day they will see the light.
. As for the rest, maybe one day they will see the light.An interesting, if self serving, cry for help!
Relax Wrexy.
You say you got all those buddies who love you and tell you you're OK, you say you got all the members who PM you with approval. I bet your Momma loves you too.
Do you really need the rest of us "ignorant", "delusional", "lying" mongers to "see the light", and finally acknowledge your supreme wisdom?
Old Kool, I'm sure you recall months ago you and I going back and forth the same way, as Oakie, Surfer, Temp, Tom and others that are in the same zone. No matter how much I explained on the boards that we don't know each other, that you can't judge a person or their character, don't have a full representation of a person just from discussions / debates etc, we kept bumping heads.
I'm sure I mentioned before, that if any of us met each other face to face, and interacted with each other, you would see a real person in front of us. Someone who has a life, family, worked hard, is liked and appreciated by those that know him. But in spite of saying that, back then, I couldn't get none of you to see that or stop the nonsense. So the online quarreling continued.
It took us unintentionally meeting for you to see me as a real person rather than some message board personna. We had the opportunity to discuss some of the same issues we generally talk about, but without the usual blockages to understanding and BS we were accustomed to. Remember, you saying stuff like I could never be your wingman, and a whole bunch of other personalized stuff all because you thought in real life that I treat chicas like shit. Or you felt that I constantly have problems with chicas, because of how I supposedly am as a person. That my PERCEIVED message board representation in expression was me as a whole person. I have to admit, you looked quite surprised when I revealed to you who I was. It was almost like a bubble was burst because online you had a fixed way of how you would respond to me. But to see me in person, you knew right then and there , it wasnt necessary for us to see each other as online adversaries. At that point we had already spent maybe 20 or 30 minutes sitting there talking.
My friend that was with me in Rockys, I told him after you left, that you were one of the guys I was going back and forth with online. My point is, it shouldn't have taken us to meet for you or any of these other guys to realize that you can't judge how a person is in real life by the way someone expresses themselves in writing. Or because someone is focused in debate / argument. You miss so much from a person not being in front of you. Their facial expressions, sincerity, tone, full disclosure and details etc.you get to ask questions to make sure you got it right.
Not to mention, the reader is the one who interprets or assimilates the information. How it was received doesnt mean that is how it was conveyed. Your not going to get every nook and cranny detail of what goes on in someones report, or their world either. And a poster is not going to know every good deed you did for others, like buying chicas / families groceries, a cell phone, helped with rent, school, bought perfume etc vs, a report focusing on negative behaviors a monger should be on the lookout for, or talking about beggars, touts, thieves and scam artists.
I emphasized all too often for individuals to seek feedback and ask questions so you get a better idea of a persons POV. I tend to practice that, and try to do it often, but it gets me nowhere with certain individuals stuck in a zone they can't get out of. If they can't offer a counter argument related to the discussion, they in turn decide they'll just attack what they perceive of the person online. I point that stuff out all the time, and the stuff continues.
I could very well meet every dude on here that is acting just like you did towards me back then, but I'd rather sit back and just watch them continue to make assholes of themselves in their online representation, thinking theyve got some enemy / bully poster on their hands. LOL. It is comical. I wouldn't be surprised if some dudes recently in Sosua already interacted with me, but didn't know it. There are several well know posters in this forum that know me on a personal level, or know me enough that I believe they don't regard me as an asshole.
And they know or havent seen me dog chicas or disrespect any, don't call women bitches or talk like that. They are aware I have favoritas that I deal with moreso than searching the clubs for chicas. I'm generous, considerate, helpful, and act like a brother when we are together. Some I've picked up and dropped off to the airport. They read this forum, they see the exchange, but they are not going to say anything or get involved. They just watch. And weve talked about it off the boards. But we arent consumed with talking about ISG, because were too busy relating to what is in front of us in real time. Good times as friends, sharing info about life, and enjoying chicas. There is a life beyond ISG. You and me have no quarrels in real life. As for the rest, maybe one day they will see the light.Life beyond ISG, are you kidding me!
So now your saying here in a "nutshell", that if other members on this board where to meet you in person that most likely we would have things in common and wouldn't be such adversaries. This was exactly what I tried to convey to you in my Friday Puta Viewing Gallery Meeting Invite which you declined to accept or comment on.
Unbelievable beyond belief is all I can say.
So even when some dudes try to be considerate of a chicas time, some chicas try to take advantage of that. I don't usually sit down in restaurants with chicas, but I made an exception in her case. The good thing is, that 500 peso interview was well spent, rather than me taking her back to my spot and us having a bigger problem, and her expecting more money and we didn't do the deed. Plus I got to do a good thing. Feed someone who needed a meal. Even with her bad attitude / vibe, I still showed consideration for her time by offering to buy a meal. She also didn't seem appreciative.
I know none of this sounds like how I would operate, based on the content in my posts. Well, the content of your posts is what you are putting out there for other people to read, including some who have never been to the DR but are thinking of it. I got a PM just today from someone who is making his first trip to the DR in June. What will he make of your posts?
It doesn't sound like you mistreated this chica. You spoke to her a couple of times at the beach and then asked her to meet you, but then you didn't like her attitude, fed her, and dismissed her. Fine. Probably she was a waste of time.
But just like you ask other posters to consider you as a real person, not just a cyberspace philosopher, you might as well also consider the point of view of the chica.
She is probably a person of limited intellect. She probably got up early on the day in question and showered, dressed up, spent a couple of hundred pesos at the hairdresser and fifty pesos for the publico to Sosua, in the expectation of meeting you and earning at least 1500 pesos. Maybe she is even paying someone else to mind her child. We don't know.
It didn't work out, so she was disappointed and pissed off even though she got a meal and a beverage for her trouble. Now perhaps she needs to spend another 50 pesos to go home again. End of story.
From her point of view her day is wasted and she has spent 300 pesos for nothing. So she is pissed off and asks you to pay her for her time.
Just another day in Sosua. There are no absolute rights and wrongs and you are dealing with a tricky population. Rumbas is not Studio 54 or the college disco.
Maybe she didn't invest any time or money into preparing for her date with you, but she might have done. If she didn't then other chicas at other times probably have done so.
All I am saying is that there is no harm in trying to look at these kind of situations from all possible angles. Yes, of course there are some chicas who will just try to scam guys out of money without providing any value in return. But look where you are, and don't necessarily try to parlay Sosua experiences into a General Theory of the Behavior of Women Who Abuse Innocent Men.
I think mongers will get a better overall experience if they start from the default position that the providers they meet are decent people trying to earn an honest crust by selling sex or providing companionship for financial reward, and then make adjustments when the individual shows themself to be unworthy of this assessment, rather than taking the default position that all the chicas are con artists from the get-go.
Others may have a different opinion. That is OK.
Mr Enternational
02-02-15, 18:20
I think mongers will get a better overall experience if they start from the default position that the providers they meet are decent people trying to earn an honest crust by selling sex or providing companionship for financial reward, and then make adjustments when the individual shows themself to be unworthy of this assessment, rather than taking the default position that all the chicas are con artists from the get-go.
Others may have a different opinion. That is OK.Yeah like the guy who went out running while leaving all his valuables in the room with a chica whom he THOUGHT he knew. Too late for an adjustment on that one. Like you say everyone has a different opinion and way of doing things, hence the disclaimer Your Mileage May Vary. IMHO the words honest and hooker should never be used together. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHAZWyckMc
Well, the content of your posts is what you are putting out there for other people to read, including some who have never been to the DR but are thinking of it. I got a PM just today from someone who is making his first trip to the DR in June. What will he make of your posts?Lets put it this way. There are dozens of individuals that regularly post in this forum. Over the years many were in accord, and even said the same things I said. About their experiences and their observations. We can't all be wrong or blind. You think I'm going to overlook those that can relate, and take the position that every person here that had a problem with the content of my posts, their opinion and assessment matters over the ones that agree, or report the same things? Of course not. And why would you take that position?
Remember, those individuals that agree or relate to my content are not the ones personalizing, in this forum or when we discuss. So that tells me something. There isn't anything wrong with the content, there is something wrong with certain individuals reading it, and making their own assessment of what the content represents to them? You of all people have a tendency to try to assign a persons position for them, and twist the content to mean something else. So at some point it's not my content that's an issue, it's your revised interpretation of it. So it's your re manufactured version of my content you are having a problem with, not mine.
There are far more individuals in this forum that have acknowledged much of the content I provided, than the select few who arent even saying I'm wrong. Or showing where my POV is incorrect. All they are doing, is what some people usually do when they can't win a debate / argument. Or their position is weak. Change the subject, deflect to something else, or claim there is something wrong with the messenger. What was the recent line? Something about me only being powerful when typing here? That sentiment speaks volumes.
Now about the individual making his 1st trip? Who knows what he'll get out of it. There are hundreds of posts to catch up on. Maybe they'll get a perspective from every one that posts here, not only from me.
It doesn't sound like you mistreated this chica. You spoke to her a couple of times at the beach and then asked her to meet you, but then you didn't like her attitude, fed her, and dismissed her. Fine. Probably she was a waste of time.Thats basically it. Now if you can understand that possibility, why would we have others read the same thing you read, and ONLY assume the chica had an attitude from having multiple meetings but not being taken? It's because those individuals have a problem. It's not the content in my post.
But just like you ask other posters to consider you as a real person, not just a cyberspace philosopher, you might as well also consider the point of view of the chica.I never said I didn't consider the point of view of the chica. You perhaps think I feel that way, because you obviously need that to be typed in order for you to know how I feel about it. I can't type just to please you, or keep you from assuming shit without evidence. I'm too busy focused on a particular point to know you are even thinking like that. And you arent going to ask me for clarity on what my point of view is anyway, you are going to do what you usually do which is assign someones so called feelings / pov to them. And then when I tell you that's not my position or not my whole position, you want to blame it on the content in my posts. Thats the extent of what were dealing with here.
Here it is in a nutshell. Whatever happens to chicas is going to happen to them anyway. My POV aint going to matter, because it's not my problem. When those chicas find themselves in the company of guys that feel them up, give them false hope, deliberately lead them on, they will have to deal with that. My consideration doesn't matter, it aint going to change the outcome because it's not me they have to deal with. So once again, you trying to get me to be considerate, for what? I don't know? When I am in the company of chicas I am very considerate. You can't seem to distinguish the difference between having a discussion and entertaining an idea, from assuming a persons character / POV. You should be addressing that to the guys actually taking up chicas time, and giving false hope. As far as chicas are concerned, they can see themselves as victims if they choose to. They can continue to rely on false hope if that is all they know. Thats not my problem or concern. Me having empathy won't change anything either, it's still them that have to deal with the consequences for how they choose to spend their time with a monger.
I still say, where is the chicas responsibility to herself?
Life beyond ISG, are you kidding me!
So now your saying here in a "nutshell", that if other members on this board where to meet you in person that most likely we would have things in common and wouldn't be such adversaries. This was exactly what I tried to convey to you in my Friday Puta Viewing Gallery Meeting Invite which you declined to accept or comment on.
Unbelievable beyond belief is all I can say.Unbelievable indeed!
Impossible to debate or discuss with, not just for his attitude, but his hedging and prevarication.
He'll take issue with how you roll in Sosua, then a few posts later, he'll pick up on your point and start lecturing YOU, with your own words.
If it wasn't for the insults, name calling you would ignore him, but he take up a lot of air on this board, and (sorry OldKool) he needs to be confronted.
If this board has no place for mongers who have figured out how to consistently have good experiences and good relationships in the DR, who knows how to deal with putas, pimps and touts, let me know. I'll just have to find another way to get the good news out to the newbies.
Yeah like the guy who went out running while leaving all his valuables in the room with a chica whom he THOUGHT he knew. Too late for an adjustment on that one. Like you say everyone has a different opinion and way of doing things, hence the disclaimer Your Mileage May Vary. IMHO the words honest and hooker should never be used together. I agree with you. I often said and believe when it comes to the DR, I offer common courtesy, and basic respect. But having been here long enough, I don't start off trusting chicas just because they may be decent people. Especially not wait until one gives me a reason not to. The people that say that, they are not being truthful IMO. Why? I believe the same mongers that express that, are the same ones that will lock or hide their stuff before a presumed decent chica comes over. Is that something somebody does who claims they regard chicas as decent until someone gives them a reason not to? Of course not.
I'd bet money if Frannie came to Sosua to get with a Sosua chica, he would secure whatever he needed to before doing the deed with the presumed decent chica. Point being, you tempt someone with considerably less than you, they might reveal their indecent side given the opportunity.
Tempoecorto
02-02-15, 21:23
Yeah like the guy who went out running while leaving all his valuables in the room with a chica whom he THOUGHT he knew.I agree with what Frannie says, definitely not on Craig's list here in my town but in the DR. Of course I do not deal with Sosua but having once done it for a week, I would have this to say. Taking preventive measures is the sign of a smart person, unlike in your apple and orange example. As Reagan famously said (of nuclear deals, not of women, just to make things clear). Trust but verify. Also treating a person with respect, increases your chances to getting the same back.
I agree with what Frannie says, definitely not on Craig's list here in my town but in the DR. Of course I do not deal with Sosua but having once done it for a week, I would have this to say. Taking preventive measures is the sign of a smart person, unlike in your apple and orange example. As Reagan famously said (of nuclear deals, not of women, just to make things clear). Trust but verify. Also treating a person with respect, increases your chances to getting the same back.Exactly. Tempoecorto and I can get bareback sex any time we want. Others havea hard time even getting a BBBJ. My case rests.
ReadyToGetOnIt
02-03-15, 01:00
Yeah like the guy who went out running while leaving all his valuables in the room with a chica whom he THOUGHT he knew. Too late for an adjustment on that one. Like you say everyone has a different opinion and way of doing things, hence the disclaimer Your Mileage May Vary. IMHO the words honest and hooker should never be used together. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHAZWyckMcYo E, that shit is classic and timeless! I have made reference to that same clip to all of my boys when they go to the spot.
Exactly. Tempoecorto and I can get bareback sex any time we want. Others havea hard time even getting a BBBJ. My case rests.It seems like there are more and more reports of guys having a hard time getting a BBBJ in Sosua these days.
Last week while walking down Calle Rosen near New Garden I encountered a slender Chica I wanted to take to the room. I began my interview process and told her that her services where to include a BBBJ. To my surprise she said she would only give a "partial one". She said she would spend a little time on the head and then it would be covered for the deep throating. I told her that this wasn't going to work for me, thank you very much, and adios. She then responded, okay, a "full blow job uncovered" and I told her no and started walking away. She then pleaded with me to take her and I politely told her that if she didn't like giving head uncovered it wasn't going to be good for either of us and kept walking.
There is so much bullshyt bickering going on here I guess all the actual trip reports just got drowned out. Will you guys please just shut the F Up about who and how different people choose to monger. Who gives a fcuk! I'm trying to find a good trip report from Super Bowl weekend and all I see if nonsense back and forth arguing. New rule, if it ain't a trip report, shut the fcuk up. No more of this BS psychology of the contempory monger nonsense. Please and thank you.
It's a shame that this board has become a place where new posters are denigrated. Posts are attacked, criticized, psychoanalyzed, etc. This discourages people from posting their reports, comments, or questions. It may even cause some to avoid going to DR because they might think there is too much bullshit going on with the guys, in addition to the bullshit going on with the girls. They might think it isn't worth going there.
I am glad I was able to go to Sosua and meet up with a fun group of guys. We hung out, had drinks, picked up women, talked about life, went hiking, swimming, etc. We became good friends. I know that this upcoming trip will be awesome.
Will I post any reports on ISG? I'm not sure yet. Sometimes it's better to be the fly on the wall and observe rather than get involved in the constant bickering that goes on in this forum.
I (nor anybody else I know) don't post here to be told to have a thick skin when our posts are criticized. I don't post to have my words disassembled and analyzed. I post here to share information with others who might find it helpful. And if you find that my posts are full of shit you are free to scroll to the next post.
When we start encouraging posters to post good field reports instead of constantly attacking them, then the current information will start flowing again and we will get a good idea of what is currently going on, where we should go, and who we should do.
I agree with OldKool. Please Stop!
Grandnash84
02-03-15, 06:54
There is so much bullshyt bickering going on here I guess all the actual trip reports just got drowned out. Will you guys please just shut the F Up about who and how different people choose to monger. Who gives a fcuk! I'm trying to find a good trip report from Super Bowl weekend and all I see if nonsense back and forth arguing. New rule, if it ain't a trip report, shut the fcuk up. No more of this BS psychology of the contempory monger nonsense. Please and thank you.Its funny, the same people that will tell you to rtff when you ask a question, will be the same poeple to rip your report to shreds. Wonder why people don't post reports.
Mr Enternational
02-03-15, 06:54
I will pull up in Sosua this coming Friday evening and be there until Sunday morning. If anyone else will be around and would like to meet up then shoot me a PM. I will try to get my main trip report from December up sometime tomorrow.
It seems like there are more and more reports of guys having a hard time getting a BBBJ in Sosua these days.
Last week while walking down Calle Rosen near New Garden I encountered a slender Chica I wanted to take to the room. I began my interview process and told her that her services where to include a BBBJ. To my surprise she said she would only give a "partial one". She said she would spend a little time on the head and then it would be covered for the deep throating. I told her that this wasn't going to work for me, thank you very much, and adios. She then responded, okay, a "full blow job uncovered" and I told her no and started walking away. She then pleaded with me to take her and I politely told her that if she didn't like giving head uncovered it wasn't going to be good for either of us and kept walking.Since I came last week to Sosua I had 7 different chicas. 6 of them gave a BBBJ even though I didn't interview this before. Mostly they give BBBJ even on its own initiative.
Overall, sex with 1 of the 7 chicas was very good, with 2 of them quite good, 2 with normal performance, 2 of them quite low performers.
For ST I paid only once 2000 pesos, otherwise always 1500. TLN was 3000, but it was Super-Bowl-weekend and it was the best performer.
I will pull up in Sosua this coming Friday evening and be there until Sunday morning. If anyone else will be around and would like to meet up then shoot me a PM. I will try to get my main trip report from December up sometime tomorrow.The infamous Mr. E will be in town. Wish I was going to be in town to meet you in person but headed to the Land Of Smiles.
A good place to meet others is the Puta Viewing Galley, aka. Diamond Bar about 5 PM in the afternoon.
The Chicas are either coming from the beach, rambling in and out of Rumbas, and / or cruising the Strip looking for customers.
Don't have any head on collisions with your car this visit.
It seems like there are more and more reports of guys having a hard time getting a BBBJ in Sosua these days.
Last week while walking down Calle Rosen near New Garden I encountered a slender Chica I wanted to take to the room. I began my interview process and told her that her services where to include a BBBJ. To my surprise she said she would only give a "partial one". She said she would spend a little time on the head and then it would be covered for the deep throating. I told her that this wasn't going to work for me, thank you very much, and adios. She then responded, okay, a "full blow job uncovered" and I told her no and started walking away. She then pleaded with me to take her and I politely told her that if she didn't like giving head uncovered it wasn't going to be good for either of us and kept walking.On my last trip, about 70% of the girls asked for a condom in order to give me head. I was surprised that so many wanted to do a covered BJ. Then I learned that a couple of weeks before I got there, the news did a big report on how high the cases of HIV had spiked in the DR. So I am positive that the news cast is what prompted all the girls to ask for a rubber.
When they asked for a condom, I didn't get upset or argue, I just calmly told them that "They could leave. I don't want to force you to do anything you don't want to do. So I will call a moto concho to take you back to the strip. Lets get dressed. " Every single one relented and began sucking. Now whether that had any effect on how well they gave head, I really can't say. I would imagine that if a girl doesn't want to give a BBJ and she feels like she has to do it or she loses pesos, then I am sure their performance suffers.
I have come to the conclusion that when you get the first negative sign roll on. There are to many women waiting for our money who are willing to give you what you want. If you are sport fucking the details are lees important. If you are working the GFE thing more is required from them. Compulsive use of phone when with you or any lack of attentiveness send her home. No explaination is needed. I will be on the ground in a month with two rookies. It should be a lot of laughs watching the girls school them. Most guys become wimps when the smell of pussy is in the air.
Since I came last week to Sosua I had 7 different chicas. 6 of them gave a BBBJ even though I didn't interview this before. Mostly they give BBBJ even on its own initiative.
Overall, sex with 1 of the 7 chicas was very good, with 2 of them quite good, 2 with normal performance, 2 of them quite low performers.
For ST I paid only once 2000 pesos, otherwise always 1500. TLN was 3000, but it was Super-Bowl-weekend and it was the best performer.
I have come to the conclusion that when you get the first negative sign roll on. Most guys become wimps when the smell of pussy is in the air.Agree with you 100%, move on at the first negative sign to avoid a potentially bad session while Sport Fucking in Sosua.
SavePros321
02-03-15, 19:31
When they asked for a condom, i didn't get upset or argue, i just calmly told them that "they could leave. I don't want to force you to do anything you don't want to do. So i will call a moto concho to take you back to the strip. Lets get dressed. " every single one relented and began sucking.Love it, hahaha!
Mr Enternational
02-04-15, 04:19
I pulled up in Sosua around 6 pm after the three plus hour drive from Santo Domingo. I went to my main hotel but they didn't have my choice room so I left and went to Europa. $40 for 1 night. I left my things in the car as I went to my third floor room to drop some kids off at the pool and do some Whatsapp socializing. I finally dragged my ass out of the room thinking on following Gogo's plan of hitting the bars that others neglect.
I walked down to see if anything was jumping off at the old La Passion, but there was nothing. On the walk back I stopped by a bar that had Brazilian decor (Samba Bar I think the name is). I asked for a menu and inquired about the price of the drinks. The menu listed the drinks, but not the prices. It seemed that none of the girls behind the bar knew any prices nor how to make any of the drinks. They went to get some lady out of the back who knew more about drinks and was in possession of the internet clave. I think I ended up with a Pina Colada for 180 pesos or so. I tried chatting up a couple of the girls behind the bar but they seemed to be dumb as posts so as soon as I finished my drink I left heading down to the main drag.
It was about 9:45 pm. I was supposed to meet Old Kool in Merengue at 10. I went inside and sat at the bar. I think there were only two other dudes in there besides me and they were already with chicks. I ordered some Doritos and a Cuba Libre. Some chick comes up with the usual routine of Hello, buy me a beer. I tell her I am not interested but she persists. I just ignore her. Then her friend comes over and does the same thing. After I would not buy her a beer she tried to get 200 pesos out of me so she could get a ride home. Do they ever give up? After another Cuba Libre it was apparent that Old Kool was not going to show so I paid my bill and left.
I headed into Rumbas and continued with the Cuba Libres. I was socializing having a good ass time. First I was talking to the crew of the girl who I would see the next day working in a nail salon in Puerto Plata. That was right at the front window on the side of the bar. When I finished with them I shimmied over to some other chick's table. I'm just talking pure shit to the chick then I decided to go back to the bar for another drink. As soon as I excused myself and looked up to step off, who do I see on the other side of the same table? Damn Angie. The girl I got into it with last time and had to call the police. It startled the shit out of me to tell the truth. I'm thinking this broad is going to start some shit. It was like a nerdy kid in high school running into the school bully in the hallway. All I could think of was to ask how she had been doing. She said fine, like the incident had never happened. I said that's great then I walked out of Rumbas.
I had gotten a couple of emails from Gogo telling me to go check out a couple of other spots. First I went to Lou's old place. Gogo had told me to get on the waitress, but I took a liking to the cashier. Whatever the name of the place (Shirley's or some shit) I kept asking where she was. They said she is the owner and would be in later. I kept telling them bullshit. I knew one of them was Shirley. So eventually the lady comes in. She appeared to be Haitian. I'm steady kicking back CLs and talking to the cashier. Then all of a sudden an old white dude comes in and sits on the opposite side of the cashier, orders 3 beers, and gives her and the bartender one. Now she is turned talking to him. I was stunned. This mf just strutted in and stole my broad. I called her on it too. She said oh he is just a customer. I'm half way drunk now. I was like fuck this shit and left out and went to Big Mama's. The place was deserted so as soon as I walked in, I turned around and walked right back out.
It hit me that while I was down that way that I should go to the ATM. I walked down to the one next to the cigar shop and it would not work. I went to the one across from that and still the same thing. Then I went to the one across from that and that shit only wanted to give me a meager (like 3000 pesos) amount of money. Well what the fuck me worry. I got Charles Schwab. These fees don't mean shit to me. So I get the cash and head back to Rumbas. I probably had another drink before it was time to go check out the chicks heading into Clasico.
So I'm standing in front of Merengue and for some reason the worse chicks are coming up trying to latch on to me. And they were not taking no for an answer. I ended up asking one decent Haitian chick how much she wanted. And we were speaking in French now. She had the nerve to tell me 3000! I damn near had to pick myself off the floor from laughing so hard. I saw one of the finest chicks I have ever seen in Sosua. She had a big dunkie booty. I was like I got to have that girl right there. I called her over and was talking to her and realized she didn't have a big toe. You talk about a downer. Next time I just might have to bring her a pair of socks or something because damn that ass was a work of art. Then two chicks came up talking about Happy Hour. I said how much? They said 2000. I said that is 1000 each right? They said yes. I told one of them to write it down then. She wrote it down on a piece of paper that I gave her. It was tempting, but I had to break off and go in and see what that Clasico was about.
I pulled up in Sosua around 6 pm after the three plus hour drive from Santo Domingo. I went to my main hotel but they didn't have my choice room so I left and went to Europa. $40 for 1 night. I left my things in the car as I went to my third floor room to drop some kids off at the pool and do some Whatsapp socializing. I finally dragged my ass out of the room thinking on following Gogo's plan of hitting the bars that others neglect.
I walked down to see if anything was jumping off at the old La Passion, but there was nothing. On the walk back I stopped by a bar that had Brazilian decor (Samba Bar I think the name is). I asked for a menu and inquired about the price of the drinks. The menu listed the drinks, but not the prices. It seemed that none of the girls behind the bar knew any prices nor how to make any of the drinks. They went to get some lady out of the back who knew more about drinks and was in possession of the internet clave. I think I ended up with a Pina Colada for 180 pesos or so. I tried chatting up a couple of the girls behind the bar but they seemed to be dumb as posts so as soon as I finished my drink I left heading down to the main drag.
It was about 9:45 pm. I was supposed to meet Old Kool in Merengue at 10. I went inside and sat at the bar. I think there were only two other dudes in there besides me and they were already with chicks. I ordered some Doritos and a Cuba Libre. Some chick comes up with the usual routine of Hello, buy me a beer. I tell her I am not interested but she persists. I just ignore her. Then her friend comes over and does the same thing. After I would not buy her a beer she tried to get 200 pesos out of me so she could get a ride home. Do they ever give up? After another Cuba Libre it was apparent that Old Kool was not going to show so I paid my bill and left..Okay so where waiting now after reading all of this for hopefully a "happy ending" to your evening!
Grandnash84
02-04-15, 06:47
I saw one of the finest chicks I have ever seen in Sosua. She had a big dunkie booty. I was like I got to have that girl right there. I called her over and was talking to her and realized she didn't have a big toe. You talk about a downer. Next time I just might have to bring her a pair of socks or something because damn that ass was a work of art. .Lmao, we all been there. The best head I ever got was a chic with a missing front tooth, but man was that ass fat LOL.
I pulled up in Sosua around 6 pm after the three plus hour drive from Santo Domingo. I went to my main hotel but they didn't have my choice room so I left and went to Europa. $40 for 1 night. I left my things in the car as I went to my third floor room to drop some kids off at the pool and do some Whatsapp socializing. I finally dragged my ass out of the room thinking on following Gogo's plan of hitting the bars that others neglect.Finally a trip report amongst all the other bullshit!
Thank you Mr. E.
BrasilSoccer0
02-04-15, 14:23
I got Charles Schwab. These fees don't mean shit to me.Do you have to call Charles Schwab (CS) to get the fees reimbursed or they do automatically?
I'm using the same visa ATM card in the DR now but I don't see CS reimbursing me so far.
BanPopular charges 175 pesos!
There is so much bullshyt bickering going on here I guess all the actual trip reports just got drowned out. Will you guys please just shut the F Up about who and how different people choose to monger. Who gives a fcuk! I'm trying to find a good trip report from Super Bowl weekend and all I see if nonsense back and forth arguing. The recent discussions have been about how to negotiate the tricky pay-for-sex marketplace to get the best bang for your buck in Sosua.
Some people want to just read about how much a person paid for a hotel and for a brief sexual encounter, others want to know which is the best hotel for their purpose, and how to get a great sexual encounter. Hence their can be no total agreement, only discussion.
To me it is of no interest to know that someone paid 1500 pesos for sex, but if he relates he paid 1500 pesos and had the best sexual experience of his life (or the worst), then the interesting part is knowing WHY it was so great, or WHY it was a bust and how such experiences might be replicated or avoided.
I am sorry if detailed discussions of managing encounters with paid sex providers is the cause of anxiety in some readers, but there is really no need for it to be so.
People have tried to start threads that consist of nothing but trip reports, which admittedly are always interesting, especially when you have a first time visitor to the DR giving a new perspective, but such efforts have always quickly failed, the main reason being that there are insufficient numbers of detailed trip reports posted to maintain interest.
Anyway we have a new trip report from an old hand on the board now, so hopefully trip report fans will chip in to say what they found most helpful about the report.
On my last trip, about 70% of the girls asked for a condom in order to give me head. I was surprised that so many wanted to do a covered BJ. Then I learned that a couple of weeks before I got there, the news did a big report on how high the cases of HIV had spiked in the DR. So I am positive that the news cast is what prompted all the girls to ask for a rubber.
When they asked for a condom, I didn't get upset or argue, I just calmly told them that "They could leave. I don't want to force you to do anything you don't want to do. So I will call a moto concho to take you back to the strip. Lets get dressed. " Every single one relented and began sucking. Now whether that had any effect on how well they gave head, I really can't say. I would imagine that if a girl doesn't want to give a BBJ and she feels like she has to do it or she loses pesos, then I am sure their performance suffers.Yes, I am pretty sure they have public health educators moving among the p4 p chicas and encouraging safe sex practices, so a lot of the girls will show some awareness of that. Which is a good thing to some extent. However they will always be inclined to overstate the dangers of various sexual practices to be on the safe side, and fellatio without condom is not very high up the list in terms of dangerous practices, especially if the chica inspects the member for visible signs of disease like herpes or genital warts, discharge, syphilitic chancres, etc. Prior to insertion in the buccal cavity.
If a chica really wants to use a condom for oral sex it is probably best not to make too big a deal about it if this is just a one-time paid encounter, but if there is going to be any kind of ongoing relationship, that would have to change pretty quickly. Same goes for vaginal sex, for that matter.
Actually I am surprised how for so many guys fellatio with a condom is a huge deal-breaker, but there don't seem to be the same complaints about vaginal sex with condom, even though the end result is pretty much the same--contact between sensitive mucous membranes reduced because of an intervening latex barrier. Possible the issue is that since it is understood that there is not going to be unprotected vaginal sex, then BBBJ is highly desired as a more intimate alternative, if only as foreplay.
My own tendency has been to go along with the rubber / rubber routine if the chica demands it on the first encounter, the trial run, because there are other factors like the presence of a new, highly desired partner to boost excitement levels, but if there are to be further encounters, then more intimate levels of sex will need to be negotiated.
Having said that, I would say that I have turned down unprotected vaginal sex more often then I have been refused a BBBJ. Your mileage may vary.
Mr Enternational
02-04-15, 15:58
Do you have to call Charles Schwab (CS) to get the fees reimbursed or they do automatically?
I'm using the same visa ATM card in the DR now but I don't see CS reimbursing me so far.
BanPopular charges 175 pesos!They do it automatically at the end of the month.
Lmao, we all been there. The best head I ever got was a chic with a missing front tooth, but man was that ass fat LOL.The one's with the eye patch's and a stump leg do a good job as well!
Will I post any reports on ISG? I'm not sure yet. Sometimes it's better to be the fly on the wall and observe rather than get involved in the constant bickering that goes on in this forum.
I (nor anybody else I know) don't post here to be told to have a thick skin when our posts are criticized. I don't post to have my words disassembled and analyzed. I post here to share information with others who might find it helpful. You might want to start a new user thread for your report and just state upfront that you don't want any comments on it. People would probably respect that.
People don't post trip reports for a variety of reasons, including that they don't want to provide information that might make them identifiable, and that much of the content might include reference to local residents with whom the poster has personal relationships of various types.
It is not uncommon for posters to ask a number of questions before coming to the DR for the first time, promising to write a trip report later, and then not post the report at all, or only a minimalist report of no real interest.
Another reason is that people just lack the writing skills or typing skills necessary to put together a detailed report. (This is written on a laptop, it would take forever to tap it out on a phone.).
The best kind of trip reports are the ones where the person makes a maiden voyage to the DR and has a wonderful life-changing experience and then writes a detailed report because they are spilling over with memories of incredible experiences that they cannot possibly share with anyone in their civilian back home.
Anyway, ISG should be happy with all posts, because they are getting unique copy posted for free by contributors.
Having said that, I would say that I have turned down unprotected vaginal sex more often then I have been refused a BBBJ.So your saying here that Chicas have offered you unprotected vaginal sex which you have said no to more times than Chicas refusing to give you a BBBJ.
This is kind of the reverse of things I think for many in Sosua, if I'm reading this correctly.
In my case, with a few exceptions, while sport fucking it has typically been BBBJ with protected vaginal sex.
Yes, I am pretty sure they have public health educators moving among the p4 p chicas and encouraging safe sex practices, so a lot of the girls will show some awareness of that. Which is a good thing to some extent. However they will always be inclined to overstate the dangers of various sexual practices to be on the safe side, and fellatio without condom is not very high up the list in terms of dangerous practices, especially if the chica inspects the member for visible signs of disease like herpes or genital warts, discharge, syphilitic chancres, etc. Prior to insertion in the buccal cavity.
If a chica really wants to use a condom for oral sex it is probably best not to make too big a deal about it if this is just a one-time paid encounter, but if there is going to be any kind of ongoing relationship, that would have to change pretty quickly. Same goes for vaginal sex, for that matter.
Actually I am surprised how for so many guys fellatio with a condom is a huge deal-breaker, but there don't seem to be the same complaints about vaginal sex with condom, even though the end result is pretty much the same--contact between sensitive mucous membranes reduced because of an intervening latex barrier. Possible the issue is that since it is understood that there is not going to be unprotected vaginal sex, then BBBJ is highly desired as a more intimate alternative, if only as foreplay.
My own tendency has been to go along with the rubber / rubber routine if the chica demands it on the first encounter, the trial run, because there are other factors like the presence of a new, highly desired partner to boost excitement levels, but if there are to be further encounters, then more intimate levels of sex will need to be negotiated.
Having said that, I would say that I have turned down unprotected vaginal sex more often then I have been refused a BBBJ. Your mileage may vary.I'm surprised at the number of mongers (sometimes including myself) who would have unprotected sex with a complete stranger.
But, one of the good things about Sosua is the rarity of STDs. Either the girls are generally disease free, or guys are not reporting problems. The news would spread like wildfire.
Mongers don't seem to be overly concerned with the risk, but then again, they are not overly concerned with sloppy seconds either, so go figure!
A regular GF puts my mind at ease. You at least know her hygiene habits.
But, one of the good things about Sosua is the rarity of STDs. Either the girls are generally disease free, or guys are not reporting problems. The news would spread like wildfire.Don't know if I agree with you on this, but can tell you the majority of guys out of embarrassment alone would not be reporting problems on this Site.
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