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I am glad for you, and the other amigos and the chicas who love those hair extensions! Boy is that a turn off for some guys like me. Give me a natural 5 who is a non pro any day, with even a light tinge of innocence left; Over a 7, 8, or 9 with a hair extension and who looks like a sexy model!
I agree. Those girls looks change so much with those extensions that with out them most guys would not even know them. Natural is always best for me.
He is a known thug but is running his business well. It continues to expand and is one of the more interesting locales for ex-pats and haitiana fanciers.
This is what I don't understand this is a great place to pick up haitianas but this guy don't like Haitianos I have seen him give them hell for nothing but being alive. I have seen him make the Haitian men leave for no reason at all and it makes them mad as hell.
1 day we all know this guy will have to pay for his inconsiderate ways.
Don't do that dude, Wilfried is a good dude and doesn't have time for this. All you have to do is not patronize his business anymore. Next time order a pia colada sin alcohol, or a fruit juice. Even better buy the owner a drink. I personally hate cheap Charlie's that go to bars and nurse the same bottle of water all night long. The man doesn't need customers like you so take your business elsewhere as a protest.
It's all about spending money and having a good time while on vacation. It's not about fighting (unless necessary), pulling guns or even arguing.MR Gogo, LOL man. I do drink! He will no problems with me at the establishment because I do spend good dineros.
I think maybe you have me confused with a different poster. As for Wilfried, I think I know him well enough to ask about the owner of Rancho Tipico because of my interest in learning Bachata and someone suggested that venue as one of the few options in Sosua. Yeah, I plan on drinking a bit while I'm learning. I have NEVER ever personally been involved in a physical confrontation so I stay away from dudes like that. And one reason I rarely ever go to Rumbas any longer, unless I am dragged in there by a bro who has been residing there for over a year now, and who does like that place! I wish D'Latins would open back up. Classicos, Club X and After 1 ( after 230 am on Thu, Fri, Sat) have been my only options lately.
However, if you know of any non pro or semi - pro chicas in the Pto Pta area who speak just enough english to help me learn Bachata, I would appreciate it. No probs whatsoever in keeping the dancing 100% limited to teaching and learning and keeping it strictly limited to learning Bachata. And, I am happy to pay some dineros for a teacher chica and perhaps also part with some regalos from the US.
We often read about the negative behavior of Sosua Chicas on this board. Today I want to tell you guys about a surprising but yet refreshing event on my last trip to Sosua. One night I called this Haitian over I met earlier on the strip. She arrived on a moto and was getting ready to pay him. Then an argument broke out between the two of them in Spanish (My Spanish is very limited) and I could not understand what they were saying. After the argument, she gave him some pesos and he left. I then asked her what was that about. She said we agreed that he would charge me 35 pesos to bring me to your hotel and once we arrived he seen you he did not want to take my money and wanted you pay him (Thinking he can get a lot more from me) but I told him no because I can't make you pay for me especially after we agreed on the price. That was my thirteenth trip to Sosua and never seen anything like that before. Actually, my experience has been the opposite. Most Chicas are in on the scam with the moto guy. I didn't mind paying the guy, however, he would of only got 15 pesos more but the point was she was not going to allow the guy to scam her client like that. I told her I appreciate her honesty. After our session, I gave her 500 pesos tip for her good deed with the moto guy. BTW. She was great in the sack. I love big booty Haitians.
I do not drink therefore I did not think of the table in terms of dollars and cents. I would have gladly moved to the bar or the fringes to enjoy the rest of my night there had I been shown some respect. My problem was being shoved and the comment he made twice "I don't give a fuck!" Somehow I don't think that is good customer service.Camaro, it's not good customer service to treat you the way he did. He should have been more polite but I can also understand the frustration of someone taking up a table for 2+ hours and not spending any $$ A few bottles of water and some wings is less than $10.00 , the man needs to generate more income than that off a table.
MR Gogo, LOL man. I do drink! He will no problems with me at the establishment because I do spend good dineros.
I think maybe you have me confused with a different poster. As for Wilfried, I think I know him well enough to ask about the owner of Rancho Tipico because of my interest in learning Bachata and someone suggested that venue as one of the few options in Sosua. Yeah, I plan on drinking a bit while I'm learning. I have NEVER ever personally been involved in a physical confrontation so I stay away from dudes like that. And one reason I rarely ever go to Rumbas any longer, unless I am dragged in there by a bro who has been residing there for over a year now, and who does like that place! I wish D'Latins would open back up. Classicos, Club X and After 1 ( after 230 am on Thu, Fri, Sat) have been my only options lately.
However, if you know of any non pro or semi - pro chicas in the Pto Pta area who speak just enough english to help me learn Bachata, I would appreciate it. No probs whatsoever in keeping the dancing 100% limited to teaching and learning and keeping it strictly limited to learning Bachata. And, I am happy to pay some dineros for a teacher chica and perhaps also part with some regalos from the US.Emily Watson had a dance school between Cabarette and Sosua, ask about it or google it. I know several retired girls from the old Sosua who have retired from the game and are now living in Puerto Plata who speak English, but they aren't dance teachers. I will inquire and get back to you. Actually this can work to your advantage (wanting to learn Bachata), because it is a great pickup line. I'm sure most girls will take you up on your offer.
This is what I don't understand this is a great place to pick up haitianas but this guy don't like Haitianos I have seen him give them hell for nothing but being alive. I have seen him make the Haitian men leave for no reason at all and it makes them mad as hell.
1 day we all know this guy will have to pay for his inconsiderate ways.You know hearing this kind of thing makes think twice about going there. Perhaps the guy is a racist, or a hard core business guy trying to focus on good paying customers and trying to make those with light pockets or poor spenders unwelcome at his establishment. Both are distasteful and abhorrent but not illegal in the DR, and I'm sure the guy as the owner has to pay the local powers that be, regularly, with hard dineros, or they will shut him too down like D' Latins.
Anyway, I plan to go check it out for myself and take the measure of this very unsavory bloke!
But, I did not quite get what you meant by that last sentence in your post?
Any hint of violence and I am not going near that place. Last thing we all need is violence and and see the DR local government find another reason to shut more places down! We'd all be long term losers then. 'Cause there just are not too many places like Sosua, where things are within distance, and we can find all the sports we want on TV, all the kinds of food we want at 25 different restuarants, within a few minutes walk, a large quality grocery store, close proximity to airport, 2 beaches within walking distance and other good options at Cabarete within striking distance for us non- spanish fluent gringos!
Let's not fuck it up for ourselves by letting our ego or pride ruin things further with more violence. Please!
But, I did not quite get what you meant by that last sentence in your post?
One word, Karma.
Chris Long
03-09-15, 06:50
Rancho Tipico.
I decided I would try to experience the west end of Pedro Clisante for an evening. I arrived at Rancho Tipico just before 10 pm and had the wings. Since I do not drink I ordered 3 bottles of water while I sat at my table. Just before midnight the owner approached me with a drink in his hand and said "amigo you can't just drink water" I replied "but I had dinner" and he replied saying "I don't give a fuck!" I then asked what I had to do and he said "I need the table I don't give a fuck!" and he pushed me aside as I was waiting to pay my bill. Given his speech was slurred and he was holding a glass of what appeared to be alcoholic beverage I suspect he was under the influence.
I immediately left after paying my bill as I did not want any problems.Wow I'll wright Rancho Tipico off the list from now on. No real need to go there anyways. I don't drink either and generally just sip water until I spot my pray and make my move, and that's what I've done there in the past. But if that's their attitude I'll start hunting at other watering holes.
Chris
I do not drink therefore I did not think of the table in terms of dollars and cents. I would have gladly moved to the bar or the fringes to enjoy the rest of my night there had I been shown some respect. My problem was being shoved and the comment he made twice "I don't give a fuck!" Somehow I don't think that is good customer service.It's the old dilemma, much discussed here.
If you sit thought 3 bottles of water at a table in a busy restaurant, enjoying the people and the facilities, there is an unwritten obligation to spend money (even though in your case the guy was a complete asshole, in how he conveyed that to you) Some busy places have a cover charge or even a table charge.
If you invite or agree for a puta to sit with you and share your company and you take up more than a couple minutes of her time, are you under obligation to acknowledge her time? If not with a session, at least with a propina?
Back home will a beautiful young pro to sit beside an old ugly guy, listen to your life story, and expect nothing in return? Hell, some guys like to talk as much as fuck!
There are no hard and fast rules in life, but there are smart ways to roll.
True story.
On a cold and snowy morning some years ago, very early, I met my business partner in a roadside restaurant to go over some shit before a big meeting later that morning.
We unrolled a set of drawings and discussed our recommendations over a few coffees.
When we left we both put money down and didn't think to look at our change.
The owner put his hands in the air and scowled at us.
"What's his problem? We wondered. When we drove away, we saw the sign for the first time, something like "Coffee half price, free refills".
We'd had the guy hovering over our table for over an hour with fresh coffee. No wonder he was pissed!
Charles Pooter
03-09-15, 14:01
I have seen him make the Haitian men leave for no reason at all and it makes them mad as hell.Most of the Haitian men who hang there are pimps keeping an eye on their women. There is little chance of them spending any money so he wants them out of it. Keeping a high ratio of chicas to males is what attracts in the gringo customers who do spend money.
But, I did not quite get what you meant by that last sentence in your post?
Let's not fuck it up for ourselves by letting our ego or pride ruin things further with more violence. Please!
Read the post again I never mention violence. I am with you violence is rarely needed. Life is what catches up with people and they never see it coming. The person who makes this situation better for everyone will probably be a bloke who has never even been on these boards and will be visiting his bar for the 1st time and be a person who refuses to listen to that shit and does something about it.
Most of the Haitian men who hang there are pimps keeping an eye on their women. There is little chance of them spending any money so he wants them out of it. Keeping a high ratio of chicas to males is what attracts in the gringo customers who do spend money.
Just so happens that 1 of the Haitian men kicked out was with me. And in no way is he a pimp of any sort we were just having good times as friends spending money. This stuff with him being that way toward Haitian men has been going on for a while that I know about. The only reason I am bringing it up now is because 1 of our on has been fucked with off this board and when that happens it is time to tell the truth about how it really is so that the person that is being discussed gets the idea we as a group are not going to settle for that kind of treatment out of anyone or any bar.
Leaving Sosua is never an easy thing to do. My last night I binged fucked. $ different womn in 24 ours. I hav nvr don this before but the thought of not being back for a while motivated me. All four sessions were successful. I would not recommend it but I was squeezing the last juice out.
LookingToSwing4
03-09-15, 14:50
Sosua is a few notches below what it used to be but it is still pretty good. Biggest drawback may be getting there. Depending on where you are going from airfare is pretty high. On the plus side the pussy is about 1/2 of what you would pay in CR. Rooms are a little cheaper than CR. Depending on airfare probably good for a change of pace.Thanks. Airfare to MDE is insane right now, too. While I have not been to MDE in over 6 months; my longest return interval in years, I still find I am need of a change to a destination that has warm sun, ocean, beaches and chicas. What happend to all the raids I had read about? Seemed like they were trying to changed the landscape for good. Did they just upset the apple cart and then disappear back into the shadows?
Leaving Sosua is never an easy thing to do. My last night I binged fucked. $ different womn in 24 ours. I hav nvr don this before but the thought of not being back for a while motivated me. All four sessions were successful. I would not recommend it but I was squeezing the last juice out.
Your right OldKool leaving always sucks but at least you are leaving Happy.
Charles Pooter
03-09-15, 17:39
Just so happens that 1 of the Haitian men kicked out was with me. And in no way is he a pimp of any sort we were just having good times as friends spending money. This stuff with him being that way toward Haitian men has been going on for a while that I know about.Sorry to hear that, Grub. I did say "most" and I stand by that. I am probably the biggest friend to Haitians on this board. My whole life now is passed in their company and trying to help them. But most of the Haitians who try to hang round Rancho Tipico are lowlife scum so he does not need to be racist (though he may well be) to want them off the premises.
Some years ago when he had his place on the beach, his dominicana employee often used to refuse to serve Dominicans there. An affluent American friend of mine who is Native American, but looks Dominican, was refused service because he was in the company of someone who she wrongly took to be a low-life tiguere. So although racism may, or may not, be a factor, purging his clientele is his priority. Unfortunately he takes a crude scattergun approach to doing so.
Ad is surly when sober, and offensive when drunk, the service is slow and chaotic and the food menu very limited. Nonetheless it is a favorite hang-out for many experienced ex-pats. Maybe because it is open-air, the music is not so deafening as at other locales, and there are often fresh haitiana semi-pros to be found there with a minimum of the hardcore putas who pollute the Strip.
I don't have dog in this fight. I very rarely venture out of Puerto Plata.
World Travel 69
03-09-15, 18:15
Here is a few sites of the place.
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3506&article=1
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3514&article=1
I believe the owners name is "Ad" and he is German if I am not mistaken. He is a white male about 6'2" 230 lbs.
! week in Sosua is still a long time. Sosua has two streams of women. The regulars on the ground 7 days a week and the weekend warriors. The regulars are harder to deal with. They have been used and abused. The weekend girls come on Thursdays and leave on Monday. I saw some serious 10's as hot as anything in Brazil. These girls expect more cash I think they may be worth it. This trip I saw 8 women 3 I knew previously. The girls were all willing work for their pay. I only had one problem chica and she was partially my fault. She was to stay until 6 am but left to soon. Sport fucking is still a blast but requires the right chica. I found girls who were willing to get a bit freaky. This made sessions with them real hot. The guys on the ground were a lot of fun and willing to help when ever it was needed.
Th best sessions I had were chicas I knew.
! week in Sosua is still a long time. Sosua has two streams of women. The regulars on the ground 7 days a week and the weekend warriors. The regulars are harder to deal with. They have been used and abused. The weekend girls come on Thursdays and leave on Monday. I saw some serious 10's as hot as anything in Brazil. These girls expect more cash I think they may be worth it. This trip I saw 8 women 3 I knew previously. The girls were all willing work for their pay. I only had one problem chica and she was partially my fault. She was to stay until 6 am but left to soon. Sport fucking is still a blast but requires the right chica. I found girls who were willing to get a bit freaky. This made sessions with them real hot. The guys on the ground were a lot of fun and willing to help when ever it was needed.
Th best sessions I had were chicas I knew.Hopefully they look like 10's with their clothes off and fuck like Brazilian, but I doubt it.
! week in Sosua is still a long time. Sosua has two streams of women. The regulars on the ground 7 days a week and the weekend warriors. The regulars are harder to deal with. They have been used and abused. The weekend girls come on Thursdays and leave on Monday. I saw some serious 10's as hot as anything in Brazil. These girls expect more cash I think they may be worth it. This trip I saw 8 women 3 I knew previously. The girls were all willing work for their pay. I only had one problem chica and she was partially my fault. She was to stay until 6 am but left to soon. Sport fucking is still a blast but requires the right chica. I found girls who were willing to get a bit freaky. This made sessions with them real hot. The guys on the ground were a lot of fun and willing to help when ever it was needed.
Th best sessions I had were chicas I knew.Glad to hear you had a good time.
Where did you stay?
I stayed at Sosua suites my first 2 nights $55 a night. I think it is the best located place in Sosua. Plus: Across the street from Rockies close to everything security excellent, owner Kyle could not be better. Issuss: wifi suckd and water pressure is never very good. I had the best room in the place D3 very nice. Place was booked for weekend so we moved on Friday.
The next 3 nights we were in hotel Europa. I negotiated $40 a night at Europa. I was given a really nice suite. Full kitchen two full baths separate sleeping quarters. Water pressure and wifi were excellent. My 2 wingmen got normal rooms but were satisfied. Girls must have cedulas or no go and you can only have 1 at a time. Plus: best value I think $40 is great, staff is on point, attractive bar maids who will fuck you. My last day was a full vacation for most people. I banged 4 girls, spent 3 hours on the beach with friends playing dominoes and chilling with friends and chicas. Hit the clubs and pickup girls. It was exhausting but very fulfilling.
I would recommend modified sport fucking. That is finding chica who are compatible with you and hanging with them a bit. You will get much better service and sometime better pricing. Sosua is what you make of it. It is going to give you access to 100's of women willing to spend time and have sex with you. What you do with these options is in your hands. I am still learning how to maximize the options. All being said I do not think I could have had more fun.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
Where did you stay?.
I am still learning how to maximize the options. All being said I do not think I could have had more fun..Still learning? Looks to me like you're ready to start teaching the class.
Is Scotiabank ATM still at the Metro bus station.
These 2 were wild in bed. The one in the red was hot and nasty. I paid her 2k and tiped 200 for moto. She was so wild I cANCELED my evening appointment with her. I was scared of her. The second girl worked at the bar at the hotel. After having her my eyes were open that all the bar girls could be had and most were very attractive. She saw me in Classicos and hit on me. She was also a good performer
Is Scotiabank ATM still at the Metro bus station.The quick answer is yes!
The long winded answer (ignore if you wish) is that all last week it was spitting back my Canadian RBC ATM card. But others said it wasn't broken. WTF?
I had to use Populaire, which inconveniently ran out of dinero on the Friday Education holiday, and never really came back up 'til Monday. One of the two machines worked, but there was always a big line up.
Speaking of which, I watched the Education Day Parade, that started out before the Casa Marina and worked its way down to Charamicos. Those kids were the most beautiful (male and female) of any I've seen in my travels, and I hope they get to live out their dreams.
Unfortunately there was an accident where a young mother of three was killed by a collapsing stand, and I cried for the first time in a long time.
Anyway, yes! There is still a ScotiaBank ATM at the Texaco. Inside the pharmacia.
These 2 were wild in bed. The one in the red was hot and nasty. I paid her 2k and tiped 200 for moto. She was so wild I cANCELED my evening appointment with her. I was scared of her. The second girl worked at the bar at the hotel. After having her my eyes were open that all the bar girls could be had and most were very attractive. She saw me in Classicos and hit on me. She was also a good performerThanks for the detailed hotel info. And the great recommendations.
Talk about a walk on the wild side. They look like sisters.
I can relate to "having your eyes opened".
I was a raw newbie when I first found this site, and got a lot of great advice from the guys here. Now my "eyes have been opened" I can roll pretty good in any situation.
That actually also translates into your attitude back home. The chicks back home can smell your success, and all of a sudden you become a hot property. Now I walk into a local bar or strip club like I own it, and treat the girls just like I'm in Sosua. They love it and I can take my pick!
Shit, I couldn't do that when I was 40 years younger! LOL.
I might be changing my travel plans and come to Sosua. Every congratulate yourself for being so convincing. I'm looking for the other information I need to make a decision.
I know the room rates, my current front runner is Hotel Plaza Europa, and I can guess at food prices from a few local restaurants with online menus. What I don't know are the hidden costs, such as resort taxes, added fees. I don't want to be surprised and find out every flush of the toilet cost me $2. Also a better idea on chica rates would help. Is 2000-3000 DOP about right for TLN? I'm also considering renting a car, since I'm booked into SDQ, and I like the idea of being able to explore. Or would I be better off taking the bus and saving the money? My flight arrives early afternoon, so the timing is good for either option.
Suggestions? Input? Warnings? Recommendations? Is $40 USD / day a reasonable budget for meals? What about drinks? I'm a light drinker, but I'm sure the drinks for chicas will add up.
These 2 were wild in bed. The one in the red was hot and nasty. Me gusta hot and nasty; was she in the bars?
Thanks for the reports!
We often read about the negative behavior of Sosua Chicas on this board. Today I want to tell you guys about a surprising but yet refreshing event on my last trip to Sosua. One night I called this Haitian over I met earlier on the strip. She arrived on a moto and was getting ready to pay him. Then an argument broke out between the two of them in Spanish (My Spanish is very limited) and I could not understand what they were saying. After the argument, she gave him some pesos and he left. I then asked her what was that about. She said we agreed that he would charge me 35 pesos to bring me to your hotel and once we arrived he seen you he did not want to take my money and wanted you pay him (Thinking he can get a lot more from me) but I told him no because I can't make you pay for me especially after we agreed on the price. That was my thirteenth trip to Sosua and never seen anything like that before. Actually, my experience has been the opposite. Most Chicas are in on the scam with the moto guy. I didn't mind paying the guy, however, he would of only got 15 pesos more but the point was she was not going to allow the guy to scam her client like that. I told her I appreciate her honesty. After our session, I gave her 500 pesos tip for her good deed with the moto guy. BTW. She was great in the sack. I love big booty Haitians.I have never had a bad experience with a Haitian chica.
Charles Pooter
03-11-15, 14:05
Is Scotiabank ATM still at the Metro bus station.Yes, but I would recommend anyone, unless it is an emergency, to use ATMs at banks. If the machine swallows your card at a stand-alone ATM or you have other problems such as wrong or nil cash dispensed, it could take several days to get rectified. And ATMs at banks are better serviced and guarded against tampering. A five minute walk to the nearest bank could save you headaches or money.
Better yet is to draw cash over the counter inside a bank. More secure, and you can ask for a selection of small bills and coins to be included, as change is hard to come by on the streets.
She is very flamboyan.
Me gusta hot and nasty; was she in the bars?
Thanks for the reports!
Yes, but I would recommend anyone, unless it is an emergency, to use ATMs at banks. If the machine swallows your card at a stand-alone ATM or you have other problems such as wrong or nil cash dispensed, it could take several days to get rectified. And ATMs at banks are better serviced and guarded against tampering. A five minute walk to the nearest bank could save you headaches or money.
Better yet is to draw cash over the counter inside a bank. More secure, and you can ask for a selection of small bills and coins to be included, as change is hard to come by on the streets.This is fairly good advice--use Bank ATMs in banking hours.
However if you can't do that, I have found that ATMs in certain locations are fairly safe to use, for instance the Banco Popular in the lobby at the Clinica Hernandez (hospital) in Puerto Plata is accessible 24 hours a day, though you might have to go through the Emergency Room entrance late at night, and one I have used a lot is located inside the Playero Supermarket in Sosua, though obviously this is only open in supermarket hours, which is 7 days a week.
There is also a machine or two outside La Pola supermarket in Sosua in air-conditioned glass booths, but I am not quite so sure about the out-of-hours security at this location. Perhaps someone can fill me in on that.
You cannot access the hole-in-the-wall ATMs at La Sirena in Puerto Plata out of store hours, because access to the parking lot is closed off, but the nearby Scotiabank has 24 hour armed security and two ATMs. The main Banco Popular branch office in Sosua also has 24-hour armed security and will be useful to most readers of this board.
I might be changing my travel plans and come to Sosua. Every congratulate yourself for being so convincing. I'm looking for the other information I need to make a decision.
I know the room rates, my current front runner is Hotel Plaza Europa, and I can guess at food prices from a few local restaurants with online menus. What I don't know are the hidden costs, such as resort taxes, added fees. I don't want to be surprised and find out every flush of the toilet cost me $2. Also a better idea on chica rates would help. Is 2000-3000 DOP about right for TLN? I'm also considering renting a car, since I'm booked into SDQ, and I like the idea of being able to explore. Or would I be better off taking the bus and saving the money? My flight arrives early afternoon, so the timing is good for either option.
Suggestions? Input? Warnings? Recommendations? Is $40 USD / day a reasonable budget for meals? What about drinks? I'm a light drinker, but I'm sure the drinks for chicas will add up.If your renting a car and plan on driving to Sosua, take the toll road just below the airport to the North coast. Very little traffic because nobody wants to pay the toll and you should be able to make it in about 3 1/2 hours. You also avoid having to go thru the cities to get to Sosua going this way.
Your food budget could easily be $ 10 to $ 15 day depending on what and how much you eat.
Chica rates vary on how hungry they are, the time of day, etc. TLN at 2 k to 3 k is a reasonable range. If you speak Spanish everything will cost you less including the Chicas.
Have a great time!
I might be changing my travel plans and come to Sosua. Every congratulate yourself for being so convincing. I'm looking for the other information I need to make a decision.
I know the room rates, my current front runner is Hotel Plaza Europa, and I can guess at food prices from a few local restaurants with online menus. What I don't know are the hidden costs, such as resort taxes, added fees. I don't want to be surprised and find out every flush of the toilet cost me $2. Also a better idea on chica rates would help. Is 2000-3000 DOP about right for TLN? I'm also considering renting a car, since I'm booked into SDQ, and I like the idea of being able to explore. Or would I be better off taking the bus and saving the money? My flight arrives early afternoon, so the timing is good for either option.
Suggestions? Input? Warnings? Recommendations? Is $40 USD / day a reasonable budget for meals? What about drinks? I'm a light drinker, but I'm sure the drinks for chicas will add up.Looks like you are already on the ball, with your choice of hotel, puta prices, and even food. That's a good start.
Driving has benefits and risks, that's up to you.
The beer at Rhumba is 60 pesos, and across the street at the bar at the corner bar, it's 130 pesos. Go figure. A large beer at a local colmado can be had for 45 pesos (still?)
Not aware of any other taxes. Enjoy and tell us about it.
Just my standard warning:
It pays to be nice to the people who handle your food, drink, car, or bodily fluids!
I might be changing my travel plans and come to Sosua. Every congratulate yourself for being so convincing. I'm looking for the other information I need to make a decision.
I know the room rates, my current front runner is Hotel Plaza Europa, and I can guess at food prices from a few local restaurants with online menus. What I don't know are the hidden costs, such as resort taxes, added fees. I don't want to be surprised and find out every flush of the toilet cost me $2. Also a better idea on chica rates would help. Is 2000-3000 DOP about right for TLN? I'm also considering renting a car, since I'm booked into SDQ, and I like the idea of being able to explore. Or would I be better off taking the bus and saving the money? My flight arrives early afternoon, so the timing is good for either option.
Suggestions? Input? Warnings? Recommendations? Is $40 USD / day a reasonable budget for meals? What about drinks? I'm a light drinker, but I'm sure the drinks for chicas will add up.For a guy who was going to pay $500 a night for a chica inclusive, you are looking to switch to a budget deal?
Anyways, given your interest in an all inclusive type of thing I say create your own! Do a few days at BB if you like that sort of thing. Or better yet do the all inclusive in Puerto Plata at a place like the Lifestyle with something like 18 restaurants, 12 pools and a different show each night. All varieties of food and drink (non premium) included in the price. You can book for 2 and bring in any chica over 18 who has a cedula but you can't change the chica during the time of reservation. But that is easily fixed by booking 2-3 nights back to back at 2,3 or 4 of the individual hotels within the Lifestyle resort complex. Then just check out after 2-3 nigts into an adjoining property (they have shuttle buses free every 15 minutes) and check in with another new chica.
I've done it with no problem with 3 different chicas on 3 different back to back reservations. Just told them I am taking you to Lifestyle want to go? I'm paying. They will line up. And I never discussed any dineros with any of them but gave each 2000 per day and also bought them some gifts each locally and brought some earrings and perfumes each from the USA And gave them something new every am and pm. We partied all day and night long saw the shows and after the shows hit the ICE discoteca within the resort complex (included in the price and drinks there as well). Cost me off season about $200 a night all Inclusive including for the chicas. Now it's winter in the usa and prices are higher but can still be done for $250-$275 a night. Unlimited food, booze, show every night, discoteca every night and what I paid for the chica. You can find the chicas on the cupid sites and talk to them and interview them. I never discussed sex but never had a problem within the first hour with all of them!
When I first planned this trip, I limited myself to one option for type of vacation, did all the research, found the best choice and was satisfied. Since then I've found the time to examine the other possibilities, and I'm willing to consider a change of plans. Now I'm finding the necessary data to make an informed decision.
I'm already exploring the DC option, originally just as an additional source of information, but now as a possible alternative. I still have too long to examine the possibilities, but I'll come to a decision sometime in the next few weeks. The good news is, my flight arrives right at the end of winter rates, so I should see some decent rates. Thanks for your input.
For a guy who was going to pay $500 a night for a chica inclusive, you are looking to switch to a budget deal?
Anyways, given your interest in an all inclusive type of thing I say create your own! Do a few days at BB if you like that sort of thing. Or better yet do the all inclusive in Puerto Plata at a place like the Lifestyle with something like 18 restaurants, 12 pools and a different show each night. All varieties of food and drink (non premium) included in the price. You can book for 2 and bring in any chica over 18 who has a cedula but you can't change the chica during the time of reservation. But that is easily fixed by booking 2-3 nights back to back at 2,3 or 4 of the individual hotels within the Lifestyle resort complex. Then just check out after 2-3 nigts into an adjoining property (they have shuttle buses free every 15 minutes) and check in with another new chica.
I've done it with no problem with 3 different chicas on 3 different back to back reservations. Just told them I am taking you to Lifestyle want to go? I'm paying. They will line up. And I never discussed any dineros with any of them but gave each 2000 per day and also bought them some gifts each locally and brought some earrings and perfumes each from the USA And gave them something new every am and pm. We partied all day and night long saw the shows and after the shows hit the ICE discoteca within the resort complex (included in the price and drinks there as well). Cost me off season about $200 a night all Inclusive including for the chicas. Now it's winter in the usa and prices are higher but can still be done for $250-$275 a night. Unlimited food, booze, show every night, discoteca every night and what I paid for the chica. You can find the chicas on the cupid sites and talk to them and interview them. I never discussed sex but never had a problem within the first hour with all of them!Good info.
You can do the same thing at the Casa Marina in Sosua, It's cheaper, and you're close to the action in town when you've had enough of the one chica.
Mr Enternational
03-12-15, 13:19
The beer at Rhumba is 60 pesosAre you shitting me? I have been paying 120 pesos for a Presidente and 100 pesos for a Cuba Libre.
Mr Enternational
03-12-15, 13:51
For a guy who was going to pay $500 a night for a chica inclusive, you are looking to switch to a budget deal?Shocking isn't it?
Or better yet do the all inclusive in Puerto Plata at a place like the Lifestyle with something like 18 restaurants, 12 pools and a different show each night. All varieties of food and drink (non premium) included in the price. You can book for 2 and bring in any chica over 18 who has a cedula but you can't change the chica during the time of reservation.I drove through last month and had my Puerto Plata girl run inside to check the prices at Lifestyle. It was $80/ person. For the longest she has been asking me to go to a resort for a couple of days. Resorts are not my thing; especially when I think that she lives around the corner from the damn place. It just does not make sense to me. But since she has been a good girl I decided to go ahead and take her to one. The big problem for me is that the beaches in Puerto Plata / Costambar suck. Sosua is pretty much the nicest beach in the area. How is the beach at Lifestyle Haven?
I decided to look for a place in Juan Dolio or Boca Chica. All of the tripadvisor reviews were bad for the resorts in those areas. I told my girl and she said the best ones are in Punta Cana. Yes miss I know that, but I know you will not want to drive or take the bus from Puerto Plata all the way to Punta Cana. She agreed.
So I tell this broad to go ahead and find a good resort in the Juan Dolio / Boca Chica / Santo Domingo area. She copies me in on something with Villa Capri and two other hotels. I said those are hotels, not resorts. And do you know what she told me? Well you look then. I said hell no. I'm not going to do everything. It is you who wanted to go to a resort and now that the time has come you are too lazy to even look for one. She then said I was very unstable and hurting her emotionally and she is not used to being mistreated. (Sounds like something from the American Women thread. And why'all think foreign women are any different. I am here to tell you that they are not. You just are not used to their brand of shit yet.).
Fine by me. I will just keep my money in my pocket. You had one simple ass job just to look for a resort and you couldn't even do that. Just lazy. Then she is going to pull the "you only think about yourself" card. Bih, I'm not the one who wanted to go to a resort, and I was going to pay for one. That is how much I think about myself. But I am definitely not paying for shit if you are too lazy to even look for one.
Shocking isn't it?
I drove through last month and had my Puerto Plata girl run inside to check the prices at Lifestyle. It was $80/ person. For the longest she has been asking me to go to a resort for a couple of days. Resorts are not my thing; especially when I think that she lives around the corner from the damn place. It just does not make sense to me. But since she has been a good girl I decided to go ahead and take her to one. The big problem for me is that the beaches in Puerto Plata / Costambar suck. Sosua is pretty much the nicest beach in the area. How is the beach at Lifestyle Haven?
.1. Jajaja funny story my man! Perhaps you should go with a different chica? Any chica gave that kind of BS I'm dropping her and moving on. YMMV though!
2. I've only used the beach at the Lifestyle Tropical. Yes, playa de Sosua beach and even Costambar are better and bigger. There are other beaches within the resort but I have not tried them out. The beach where they have the Sunday night party, huge outdoor tented buffet and show looks nicer but I have not been. I prefer the pools with the swim up bars and waterfalls.
3. BTW, the 2 best shows at Lifestyle are on Thursdays (The Carnaval show) and the Sunday extravaganza and VIP welcome party show!
4. I would recommend the TRopical property (older and a bit dated but very nice location within steps to all shows and the beach bar has free Wifi. Other places on property you have to pay extra for wifi. But I just sit out by the Tropical VIP bar order some drinks and appetizers (hey it's unlimited all inclusive) and use the free wifi while also enjoying the eye candy below (where the guests in their bikinis hang out). Also, I enjoy the ICE disco (50-50 english- latin music) which opens at midnight and goes on until 5 am, and on the weekend there are locals who come on property because sometimes they get a special deal. Spring break is also a good time with crazy american college girls 18-21 who can't legally drink in the US, come to party!
5. The best hotels within LIfetsyle in my opinion are Tropical (location, pool and pool bar) and the Lifestyle Cofresi (get the junior suite) which is new, modern and truly special quality, quality accommodations. Also great pool at Cofrezi.
Off season, I have managed to get a net price as low as $115 for TWO, all inclusive of course! Via travelocity after their online discount of 15 PC or $40 off $200 or more. But, this is during low season, when it is summer or early fall. During winter in the USA prices are higher (this year highest I've seen due to NE folks and Canadian fleeing this years shitty winter).
But a good price is $145 for TWO per night, and I usually do 2-3 nights and then move from one property to another property on the resort with a different chica. I check out with chica 1 around 11-12, put her in cab and then tell her I have to wait for a ride few hours later and then call the next chica and have her come by at about 3 pm. I then check in the next property and wait for the next chica to arrive. And keep the process going! Haha.
But after a week I just cannot stand the all inclusives. So then Sosua is better for me for more of a relaxed feel with the locals on Sosua beach, but I avoid Rumbas and the Sosua resident pros and have Cupid chicas come in from Pto Plata, Montellanos, Luperon, Imbert etc.
Charles Pooter
03-12-15, 15:35
You can do the same thing at the Casa Marina in Sosua, It's cheaper, and you're close to the action in town when you've had enough of the one chica.Casa Marina is a shithole. Bad reputation for pool and toilet cleanliness and food hygiene. Only reason to go there is if you can get such a good flight+hotel package that the hotel is virtually free. This used to be possible, I don't know if it still is. And I don't think Jjbee is ready for Sosua yet. He wants to be sheltered and pampered, as I did on my first visit.
I welcomed a visitor from England over the recent holiday period. My friend in Sosua tried to set him up with reliable chicas but the Limey fucked up and was miserable. He ended up in Blackbeards and was very happy there. Admittedly he was totally clueless and I trust Jjbee has more street-smarts, but how much Spanish does he know? I would not recommend Sosua to a solo first-timer without Spanish.
Lifestyles is at least two steps up the scale. Haven paints a great picture but personally I would not want to commit to three chicas I had never previously met for three days each. Especially as Jjbee is new to the DR and cannot rely on his intuition.
I had no intention of "nagging' him out of his original plan. I assume it was all settled. My comments were aimed at his subsequent visit. But if he is going to change his mind I would recommend Blackbeards instead. It is not everybody's first choice, but it is a pretty safe one and easy to keep a tab on expenditure there. And from Blackbeards he could take day-trip or two to Sosua to look the place over for a subsequent trip.
Downside is his flight is bought for SD. I don't think he has said for how long he is coming? If for a week or less he won't want to spend the best part of two days travelling to the North Coast and back. If for two weeks, less of an issue.
Casa Marina is a shithole. Bad reputation for pool and toilet cleanliness and food hygiene. Only reason to go there is if you can get such a good flight+hotel package that the hotel is virtually free. This used to be possible, I don't know if it still is. And I don't think Jjbee is ready for Sosua yet. He wants to be sheltered and pampered, as I did on my first visit.
I welcomed a visitor from England over the recent holiday period. My friend in Sosua tried to set him up with reliable chicas but the Limey fucked up and was miserable. He ended up in Blackbeards and was very happy there. Admittedly he was totally clueless and I trust Jjbee has more street-smarts, but how much Spanish does he know? I would not recommend Sosua to a solo first-timer without Spanish.
Lifestyles is at least two steps up the scale. Haven paints a great picture but personally I would not want to commit to three chicas I had never previously met for three days each. Especially as Jjbee is new to the DR and cannot rely on his intuition.
I had no intention of "nagging' him out of his original plan. I assume it was all settled. My comments were aimed at his subsequent visit. But if he is going to change his mind I would recommend Blackbeards instead. It is not everybody's first choice, but it is a pretty safe one and easy to keep a tab on expenditure there. And from Blackbeards he could take day-trip or two to Sosua to look the place over for a subsequent trip.
Downside is his flight is bought for SD. I don't think he has said for how long he is coming? If for a week or less he won't want to spend the best part of two days travelling to the North Coast and back. If for two weeks, less of an issue.I have stayed at Casa Marina in the past and it was OK. Decent sized rooms. I enjoyed the food and had no gastric upsets. Plumbing is so-so, buy my toilet flushed every time and did not overflow. Of course these things can change almost overnight with new management, personnel changes, and so on, so it is hard to say how it is right now. If the place was full it could be hard to find a table in the dining area as it would be full of hordes of ravenous Dominicans armed with knives (and forks).
Some people will fuck up anything, and if they were not relationship savvy before they arrived in the DR, their incompetence will soon surface. Your friend was obviously lacking in gorm.
People seem to be able to live in Sosua without knowing a word of Spanish or English. As long as you know Russian, you are OK, it seems, although the price of oil has caused the rouble to take a tumble recently.
Blackbeard's seems to be a safer all-inclusive choice for a nervous first timer, I would concur.
Casa Marina is a shithole. Bad reputation for pool and toilet cleanliness and food hygiene. Only reason to go there is if you can get such a good flight+hotel package that the hotel is virtually free. This used to be possible, I don't know if it still is. And I don't think Jjbee is ready for Sosua yet. He wants to be sheltered and pampered, as I did on my first visit.That's an excellent description, Charles. I know my limitations, and know that by paying more (about $375/ night, not $500) I could guarantee all goals would be achieved.
I welcomed a visitor from England over the recent holiday period. My friend in Sosua tried to set him up with reliable chicas but the Limey fucked up and was miserable. He ended up in Blackbeards and was very happy there. Admittedly he was totally clueless and I trust Jjbee has more street-smarts, but how much Spanish does he know? I would not recommend Sosua to a solo first-timer without Spanish. I usually say I know enough Spanish to get kissed, drunk, laid or slapped. Written Spanish I grasp a little more than 50%, but spoken Spanish, my ear is untrained, so I have more problems. Street smarts, I do okay. I've stumbled drunk through just about every north American city, after dark with no problems. BB's is an option, I haven't ruled out, but I would do just fine with a setup.
I had no intention of "nagging' him out of his original plan. I assume it was all settled. My comments were aimed at his subsequent visit. But if he is going to change his mind I would recommend Blackbeards instead. It is not everybody's first choice, but it is a pretty safe one and easy to keep a tab on expenditure there. And from Blackbeards he could take day-trip or two to Sosua to look the place over for a subsequent trip.Nobody talked me out of my other plans, although you, and others broadened my horizons, I'm still not committed to the change, just weighing the pros and cons (and semi pros and non pros). One reason for the possible change of plans is the cost. I budgeted for the first trip, but I now realize I can afford 2 trips / year, instead of 1, by having a different plan. Even with the flight to SD and renting a car for the week, I would still save enough to pay for another flight, hotel and meals.
Right now I'm still undecided, talking with a few cupid chicas, one or two of them might play a role in my choice. If I set up a date in La Vega or Santiago with one, stop for the night so all options are open, setup another in Pto Plata, same routine, then spend a few days in Sosua learning from the pros, and end with a possible return night with one of the cupids and maybe a last day and night exploring SD, with maybe another cupid. Even if I strike out with all of them, I would still enjoy myself. On the other hand, instead of touring the whole island, I could be wife up the whole time with no decisions more complicated than choosing from the menu.
Downside is his flight is bought for SD. I don't think he has said for how long he is coming? If for a week or less he won't want to spend the best part of two days travelling to the North Coast and back. If for two weeks, less of an issue.I'll be on the ground for a full 8 days /7 nights. I arrive early afternoon and leave mid afternoon, so it's a week plus. If I rent and drive, that's not a problem, I'm one of those people that really enjoys driving. Bus rides are less enjoyable, even though it would save me lots of money. Depending on the bus, most, like airplanes, aren't designed for my size, I'm 6'4" and legroom is always an issue.
On the plus side, I'm learning a great deal, which will make whichever choice a better vacation.
Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report.
During a raid on the El Choco sector of Sosua township and, Puerto Plata, police said it rescued 29 women, including minors.
Puerto Plata province Assistant DAs Osvaldo Bonilla and Kelmi Duncan headed the raid, accompanied by National Police agents and investigators.
Of the total arrested 15 are US citizens, 14 men and one woman.
I might be changing my travel plans and come to Sosua. Every congratulate yourself for being so convincing. I'm looking for the other information I need to make a decision.
I know the room rates, my current front runner is Hotel Plaza Europa, and I can guess at food prices from a few local restaurants with online menus. What I don't know are the hidden costs, such as resort taxes, added fees. I don't want to be surprised and find out every flush of the toilet cost me $2. Also a better idea on chica rates would help. Is 2000-3000 DOP about right for TLN? I'm also considering renting a car, since I'm booked into SDQ, and I like the idea of being able to explore. Or would I be better off taking the bus and saving the money? My flight arrives early afternoon, so the timing is good for either option.
Suggestions? Input? Warnings? Recommendations? Is $40 USD / day a reasonable budget for meals? What about drinks? I'm a light drinker, but I'm sure the drinks for chicas will add up.For a guy who was going to pay $500 a night for a chica inclusive, you are looking to switch to a budget deal?
Anyways, given your interest in an all inclusive type of thing I say create your own! Do a few days at BBest if you like that sort of thing. Or better yet do the all inclusive in Puerto Plata at a place like the Lifestyle with something like 18 restaurants, 12 pools and a different show each night. All varieties of food and drink (non premium) included in the price. You can book for 2 and bring in any chica over 18 who has a cedula but you can't change the chica during the time of reservation. But that is easily fixed by booking 2-3 nights back to back at 2,3 or 4 of the individual hotels within the Lifestyle resort complex. Then just check out after 2-3 nigts into an adjoining property (they have shuttle buses free every 15 minutes) and check in with another new chica.
I've done it with no problem with 3 different chicas on 3 different back to back reservations. Just told them I am taking you to Lifestyle want to go? I'm paying. They will line up. And I never discussed any dineros with any of them but gave each 2000 per day and also bought them some gifts each locally and brought some earrings and perfumes each from the USA And gave them something new every am and pm. We partied all day and night long saw the shows and after the shows hit the ICE discoteca within the resort complex (included in the price and drinks there as well). Cost me off season about $200 a night all Inclusive including for the chicas. Now it's winter in the usa and prices are higher but can still be done for $250-$275 a night. Unlimited food, booze, show every night, discoteca every night and what I paid for the chica. You can find the chicas on the cupid sites and talk to them and interview them. I never discussed sex but never had a problem within the first hour with all of them!
For a guy who was going to pay $500 a night for a chica inclusive, you are looking to switch to a budget deal?
Anyways, given your interest in an all inclusive type of thing I say create your own! Do a few days at BBest if you like that sort of thing. Or better yet do the all inclusive in Puerto Plata at a place like the Lifestyle with something like 18 restaurants, 12 pools and a different show each night. All varieties of food and drink (non premium) included in the price. You can book for 2 and bring in any chica over 18 who has a cedula but you can't change the chica during the time of reservation. But that is easily fixed by booking 2-3 nights back to back at 2,3 or 4 of the individual hotels within the Lifestyle resort complex. Then just check out after 2-3 nigts into an adjoining property (they have shuttle buses free every 15 minutes) and check in with another new chica.
I've done it with no problem with 3 different chicas on 3 different back to back reservations. Just told them I am taking you to Lifestyle want to go? I'm paying. They will line up. And I never discussed any dineros with any of them but gave each 2000 per day and also bought them some gifts each locally and brought some earrings and perfumes each from the USA And gave them something new every am and pm. We partied all day and night long saw the shows and after the shows hit the ICE discoteca within the resort complex (included in the price and drinks there as well). Cost me off season about $200 a night all Inclusive including for the chicas. Now it's winter in the usa and prices are higher but can still be done for $250-$275 a night. Unlimited food, booze, show every night, discoteca every night and what I paid for the chica. You can find the chicas on the cupid sites and talk to them and interview them. I never discussed sex but never had a problem within the first hour with all of them!Don't know why this posted TWICE, with 2 different post numbers! Sorry!
Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report.
During a raid on the El Choco sector of Sosua township and, Puerto Plata, police said it rescued 29 women, including minors.
Puerto Plata province Assistant DAs Osvaldo Bonilla and Kelmi Duncan headed the raid, accompanied by National Police agents and investigators.
Of the total arrested 15 are US citizens, 14 men and one woman.I have heard from multiple dominican amigos (when I was in RD and Pto Pta last) that the new people buying the expensive condos for over $1 million and the architects, builders and sellers of high end real estate in Sosua have managed to grease the wheels of the politicians and policia in Sosua, to clamp down and chase away or arrest the Americans coming from the north east who frequent the bars in Sosua.
Don't kill the messenger, I have nothing to do with this. I am just sharing what I've been told!
In their opinion, (not mine) these Americanos from NY, NJ etc act very, very crudely and rudely, many violently and some with guns, in the bars and aggressively with the chicas and this information is flowing into the families.
The policia and the politicians can get a heck of a lot more dineros from the builders and sellers of the high end and mid priced real estate, because the mongers are not giving them any dineros!!
So, I would say, expect some serious raids and arrests, particularly if there is any violence, implied threat of violence or guns found. Apparently, they will be arresting these types of tourists and confiscating their passports!
Just be wary guys! I am not on their side. But, things have definitely changed due to the money paid to the police and the politicians in Sosua.
It's all about the money that has been given already and more that has been promised. Yes, I am getting this info from the guys who are connected to and know the guys who are paying the dineros.
It's all about the money that has been given already and more that has been promised. Yes, I am getting this info from the guys who are connected to and know the guys who are paying the dineros.Yes you are right its all about the money but these guys don't give a fuck about money later its a buy me now country. So what I mean by that is it don't make 2 shits about what has been promised later its about what you got right then and there when the problems come up. Like has been said on here before 1. 50 gets you more now than a promise of 3 later. That goes for todo pais gringos come and go in a heart beat and so does there coins.
Yes you are right its all about the money but these guys don't give a fuck about money later its a buy me now country. So what I mean by that is it don't make 2 shits about what has been promised later its about what you got right then and there when the problems come up. Like has been said on here before 1. 50 gets you more now than a promise of 3 later. That goes for todo pais gringos come and go in a heart beat and so does there coins.Unless it is a recurring payment that is weekly or monthly. See what happened to D ' Latins when he did not pay!
Some of the guys at the top of the pyramid though are not small time! And the dineros are not just ( say) 50'000 pesos a month but way more than that. They will take small payments until the big one comes through when each 1 million UDD condo is sold! After all for the sale, paperwork needs to go through and tittle delivered by the local government!
And the payer wants service and action too both upfront and service and action on an ongoing basis!
Unless it is a recurring payment that is weekly or monthly. See what happened to D ' Latins when he did not pay!
Some of the guys at the top of the pyramid though are not small time! And the dineros are not just ( say) 50'000 pesos a month but way more than that. They will take small payments until the big one comes through when each 1 million UDD condo is sold! After all for the sale, paperwork needs to go through and tittle delivered by the local government!
And the payer wants service and action too both upfront and service and action on an ongoing basis!It would be great if someone could find out more information. From what I heard it was Americans renting a villa and people were not happy about what was going on. Now, the question could that happen to the average Joe who rents a villa has a girl over and has a problem. That is a lot of Americans to be arrested at one time. Usually, when there is a strip club raid they do not arrest the foreigners, but they did in this case. Why. Whoever is down there needs to update the board. Also, in this case they might hold you for 3 months on there standard pre trial detention hold. That will send a message very fast they are not playing
Are you shitting me? I have been paying 120 pesos for a Presidente and 100 pesos for a Cuba Libre.This came from a conversation I had last week with a bar manager across the street who was complaining about the lack of business.
I asked him how much I was paying for his beer and he came back with 120 or 130 pesos.
I pointed to a sign on the facade of Rhumba that said "Presidente 60 peso", and opined how that may have something top do with them being full and him being empty, LOL.
I'm sure that sign is still there, but there may be small print, I don't know.
I am curious why no one seems concerned about this. I think we need some details. Where these kindred spirits or guys on the wild side. I would love to know more. I was on the ground last week so this hits close to home
. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/dominican-republic-police-question-16-from-us-7-dominicans-after-prostitution/
It seems the fellows were having a serious house party. 29 women. glad I was not there
Casa Marina is a shithole. Bad reputation for pool and toilet cleanliness and food hygiene. Only reason to go there is if you can get such a good flight+hotel package that the hotel is virtually free. This used to be possible, I don't know if it still is. And I don't think Jjbee is ready for Sosua yet. He wants to be sheltered and pampered, as I did on my first visit..I've been staying there on occasion for over 6 years now. They went through the resort and renovated the entire place. The food is basic and plain, but for me it is ideal and healthy. I genuinely like the place and a guy that I brought with me one time loved it, and he was used to high end stuff.
The washrooms are clean (you may have to do your business while the chica is mopping the floor in the next stall Lol)
I can more or less pick my room location once I get there, and we get extra special service in the restaurants from Francesco and Fabia.
Oh yeah, then there's that sweet deal!
When was the last time you saw it?
I am curious why no one seems concerned about this. I think we need some details. Where these kindred spirits or guys on the wild side. I would love to know more. I was on the ground last week so this hits close to home
. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/dominican-republic-police-question-16-from-us-7-dominicans-after-prostitution/
It seems the fellows were having a serious house party. 29 women. glad I was not thereActually, if you scroll down you will see the article and link, plus some comments.
Bottomline, I am told we can expect more arrests and confiscation of passports of mongers from the NE who the local politicians and policia will be harassing to stop them from coming to Sosua.
Apparently, many of these mongers are loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive, rude, belligerent and overall unsavory types used to a life of violence and guns. They want this out of Sosua, if possible, and are being paid by the real estate developers and new upscale condo owners to get this done.
Please do not kill the messenger, I am just sharing what I've been told by those in the know and who are close to the real estate developers. I have no property in the DR, will not be owning one, and just come and go and keep a low profile. They were trying to get me to buy and I said no, no thanks! I prefer to keep moving around, DR, Brazil, Peru, CR, Colombia and Asia.
So, yeah, bros from the NE and all mongers to Sosua shoud pay attention to this, and be aware that they could be arrested at any time if they are violent, being aggressive in a violent way, or have guns, not checking cedulas or taking other risks with the chicas who might report them via their family and friends.
I read much and no where have I seen any Bros having guns or being violent. It is clear that racist sterio types are being projected. Not killing messenger sharing the truth. In truth the report says nothing about where or who the arrested guys were. They could have 16 white frat guys but for some reason that is not the assumption.
Actually, if you scroll down you will see the article and link, plus some comments.
Bottomline, I am told we can expect more arrests and confiscation of passports of mongers from the NE who the local politicians and policia will be harassing to stop them from coming to Sosua.
Apparently, many of these mongers are loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive, rude, belligerent and overall unsavory types used to a life of violence and guns. They want this out of Sosua, if possible, and are being paid by the real estate developers and new upscale condo owners to get this done.
Please do not kill the messenger, I am just sharing what I've been told by those in the know and who are close to the real estate developers. I have no property in the DR, will not be owning one, and just come and go and keep a low profile. They were trying to get me to buy and I said no, no thanks! I prefer to keep moving around, DR, Brazil, Peru, CR, Colombia and Asia.
So, yeah, bros from the NE and all mongers to Sosua shoud pay attention to this, and be aware that they could be arrested at any time if they are violent, being aggressive in a violent way, or have guns, not checking cedulas or taking other risks with the chicas who might report them via their family and friends.
I am curious why no one seems concerned about this. I think we need some details. Where these kindred spirits or guys on the wild side. I would love to know more. I was on the ground last week so this hits close to home
. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/dominican-republic-police-question-16-from-us-7-dominicans-after-prostitution/
It seems the fellows were having a serious house party. 29 women. glad I was not thereWhen I saw "minors" mentioned I lost all interest in their fate.
I have heard from multiple dominican amigos (when I was in RD and Pto Pta last) that the new people buying the expensive condos for over $1 million and the architects, builders and sellers of high end real estate in Sosua have managed to grease the wheels of the politicians and policia in Sosua, to clamp down and chase away or arrest the Americans coming from the north east who frequent the bars in Sosua.
Don't kill the messenger, I have nothing to do with this. I am just sharing what I've been told!
In their opinion, (not mine) these Americanos from NY, NJ etc act very, very crudely and rudely, many violently and some with guns, in the bars and aggressively with the chicas and this information is flowing into the families.
The policia and the politicians can get a heck of a lot more dineros from the builders and sellers of the high end and mid priced real estate, because the mongers are not giving them any dineros!!
So, I would say, expect some serious raids and arrests, particularly if there is any violence, implied threat of violence or guns found. Apparently, they will be arresting these types of tourists and confiscating their passports!
Just be wary guys! I am not on their side. But, things have definitely changed due to the money paid to the police and the politicians in Sosua.
It's all about the money that has been given already and more that has been promised. Yes, I am getting this info from the guys who are connected to and know the guys who are paying the dineros.Like the poster below commented, in Sosua they live in the NOW! We should too.
We discussed this down there many times over dinner and a glass or two of wine with locals / business owners.
They laugh and their advice is never listen to rumours, because the grapevine down there goes on for ever, and a lot of misleading crap is planted, and they say you'll never go wrong ignoring a rumour and acting the opposite.
I agree!
I am curious why no one seems concerned about this. I think we need some details. Where these kindred spirits or guys on the wild side. I would love to know more. I was on the ground last week so this hits close to home
. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/dominican-republic-police-question-16-from-us-7-dominicans-after-prostitution/
It seems the fellows were having a serious house party. 29 women. glad I was not thereI am still trying to find out more but the USA Embassy was involved so this was a planned sting. The USA Embassy is not going to just show up in Sousa for nothing. This should let everyone know check identification. i am just trying to be helpful with updates so people can make good decisions.
I read much and no where have I seen any Bros having guns or being violent. It is clear that racist sterio types are being projected.Quite possibly. And this is just speculation. Probably by the Italians and Germans who live there. The Italians are more involved in the real estate development business.
Every time I am in Sosua, usually every about 3-4 months, one of my amigos who now lives there has to go help a bro, or see a bro who just landed in the local jail. Usually for getting into a fight or violence with a chica. Incidents usually happen after 130 am.
I am still trying to find out more but the USA Embassy was involved so this was a planned sting. The USA Embassy is not going to just show up in Sousa for nothing. This should let everyone know check identification. i am just trying to be helpful with updates so people can make good decisions.Yeah, I heard after the number of incidents increasing, the USA Embassy is now working with the DR govt in tracking the folks from the NE who have felony convictions, based on passport data cross check after arrival.
Data is handed to the DR govt and local policia within 72 hours after arrival only when there is a prior US felony conviction involved with a US passport holder. This is a fairly new process, I am told.
Actually, if you scroll down you will see the article and link, plus some comments.
Bottomline, I am told we can expect more arrests and confiscation of passports of mongers from the NE who the local politicians and policia will be harassing to stop them from coming to Sosua.
Apparently, many of these mongers are loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive, rude, belligerent and overall unsavory types used to a life of violence and guns. They want this out of Sosua, if possible, and are being paid by the real estate developers and new upscale condo owners to get this done.
Please do not kill the messenger, I am just sharing what I've been told by those in the know and who are close to the real estate developers. I have no property in the DR, will not be owning one, and just come and go and keep a low profile. They were trying to get me to buy and I said no, no thanks! I prefer to keep moving around, DR, Brazil, Peru, CR, Colombia and Asia.
So, yeah, bros from the NE and all mongers to Sosua shoud pay attention to this, and be aware that they could be arrested at any time if they are violent, being aggressive in a violent way, or have guns, not checking cedulas or taking other risks with the chicas who might report them via their family and friends.I would like to think that any person that is being violent, or aggressive in a violent way, committing some illegal act with someone not of legal age would be arrested as well. Anywhere in the world.
I have heard from multiple dominican amigos (when I was in RD and Pto Pta last) that the new people buying the expensive condos for over $1 million and the architects, builders and sellers of high end real estate in Sosua have managed to grease the wheels of the politicians and policia in Sosua, to clamp down and chase away or arrest the Americans coming from the north east who frequent the bars in Sosua.
Don't kill the messenger, I have nothing to do with this. I am just sharing what I've been told!
In their opinion, (not mine) these Americanos from NY, NJ etc act very, very crudely and rudely, many violently and some with guns, in the bars and aggressively with the chicas and this information is flowing into the families.
The policia and the politicians can get a heck of a lot more dineros from the builders and sellers of the high end and mid priced real estate, because the mongers are not giving them any dineros!!
So, I would say, expect some serious raids and arrests, particularly if there is any violence, implied threat of violence or guns found. Apparently, they will be arresting these types of tourists and confiscating their passports!
Just be wary guys! I am not on their side. But, things have definitely changed due to the money paid to the police and the politicians in Sosua.
It's all about the money that has been given already and more that has been promised. Yes, I am getting this info from the guys who are connected to and know the guys who are paying the dineros.Again, if tourists are going to another country and being violent, threatening locals, and using weapons I would hope there would be action taken. Now if tourists are just strolling along Playa Sosua and getting arrested for just being a tourist, that's a different story.
It's possible there could be more raids or arrests taking place, giving the impression that all of a sudden things are changing. Many times these are just temporary phases. However, please don't give the impression that just because you're a tourist from the NE or a punter that all of a sudden there's a huge risk of you being arrested. If you are coming down to screw chicas and not cause a problem, and not carrying a gun, and not being violent. Like 99% of punters, then you have nothing to worry about.
I'll be down in a couple weeks, it's been several months now since I was in Sosua and I'm looking forward to not being arrested and being pleasured multiple times a day.
Again, if tourists are going to another country and being violent, threatening locals, and using weapons I would hope there would be action taken. Now if tourists are just strolling along Playa Sosua and getting arrested for just being a tourist, that's a different story.You should have zero issues or problems! They want tourists, they need tourists. The hotels need the business, the resrtaurants, bars and vendors on playa Sosua too!
The chicas also need dineros and some simply want to enjoy and have some fun times while they are still under 30.
The FOCUS is SOLELY on those that do not behave themselves and / or conduct themselves well. And particularly focused on those who, ALSO, have a felony criminal record in the US.
They are simply tired of this increase in guys with felony criminal records in the USA coming to Sosua and behaving like thugs. Simple as that!
Because that is affecting the real estate developers with the major dineros for the politicians and the policia.
The tourists, individually speaking (meaning 100 or 500 per year that they may have to arrest, and confiscate passports and deport back to the USA), are irrelevant from the standpoint of dineros, for the local government versus real estate development.
And it puts the USA Embassy in an embarrassing position, exactly where the DR government wants them!
Parkinsons
03-14-15, 03:02
I read much and no where have I seen any Bros having guns or being violent. It is clear that racist sterio types are being projected. Not killing messenger sharing the truth. In truth the report says nothing about where or who the arrested guys were. They could have 16 white frat guys but for some reason that is not the assumption.OldKool is 100% right on this. WTF. If there's been any problems with "bros" firing shots and engaging in all-out brawls then we would've read or heard about that! NONE!
The FOCUS is SOLELY on those that do not behave themselves and / or conduct themselves well. And particularly focused on those who, ALSO, have a felony criminal record in the US.
They are simply tired of this increase in guys with felony criminal records in the USA coming to Sosua and behaving like thugs. Simple as that!How in the world can a Dominican policeman or a local businessman or land developer know I may or may not have a felony criminal record? What about a misdemeanor charge? Are they okay with that instead? Until someone breaks the law and gets arrested, how do they know? And again, we seldom, or almost never, hear about "bros" getting arrested. Otherwise why would this incident be news? We'd be accustomed to this shit by now.
Apparently, many of these mongers are loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive, rude, belligerent and overall unsavory types used to a life of violence and guns. They want this out of Sosua, if possible, and are being paid by the real estate developers and new upscale condo owners to get this done.
So, yeah, bros from the NE and all mongers to Sosua shoud pay attention to this, and be aware that they could be arrested at any time if they are violent, being aggressive in a violent way, or have guns, not checking cedulas or taking other risks with the chicas who might report them via their family and friends.There you are again. "Loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive. " Have you witnessed any of this in Sosua? "Used to a life of violence and guns". WTF does that even mean or are you just projecting the worst stereotype. Can you name one incident within the last year a "bro" was arrested for having a gun in Sosua? I highly doubt that a tourist, especially the weekend warrior type "bro", (in and out, no local connection, English only) can bring a gun into the DR. And WHY would a "bro" need a gun in Sosua? Is he dealing crack? He has to protect his turf, I mean his sand? In case his nemesis from the hood bumps into him on Pedro Clisante and it's high noon at the OK corral? Oh wait, he needs his gun to do a drive-by on Dr. Rosen in his rental Kia?
There are pictures of the actual raid, or the aftermath, here:
http://www.noticiassin.com/2015/03/apresan-a-16-norteamericanos-y-siete-dominicanos-por-trafico-de-personas-en-puerto-plata/
Pretty sure it happened here (notice the pavers on the driveway and the similar architecture):
http://www.villasaguadulce.com/site/home.aspx
So this looks like an upscale development. Could be that too many people were having too wild of a party, Or too many women coming in and out over a few days straight, and the neighbors complained. Pretty much the same should this happen in my neighborhood in the suburb with a homeowners association. Certainly not where "bros" were simply being "obnoxious", showing folks their criminal record "rap sheet" and shoving people outside of Rumbas. This has zero impact on a NY "bro" coming down to have fun on the strip, going to Classicos and whoring-while-black.
OK, you guys are all correct! Nobody did anything wrong. Nobody got arrested. Nobody will get arrested for anything.
No probs! Everything is all cool! Just keep doing whatever you were doing!
It's all good! Nobody is going to do anything!
It's all just a stereotype! People are just making things up! Everybody is being good and acting nice!
OldKool is 100% right on this. WTF. If there's been any problems with "bros" firing shots and engaging in all-out brawls then we would've read or heard about that! NONE!
How in the world can a Dominican policeman or a local businessman or land developer know I may or may not have a felony criminal record? What about a misdemeanor charge? Are they okay with that instead? Until someone breaks the law and gets arrested, how do they know? And again, we seldom, or almost never, hear about "bros" getting arrested. Otherwise why would this incident be news? We'd be accustomed to this shit by now.
There you are again. "Loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive. " Have you witnessed any of this in Sosua? "Used to a life of violence and guns". WTF does that even mean or are you just projecting the worst stereotype. Can you name one incident within the last year a "bro" was arrested for having a gun in Sosua? I highly doubt that a tourist, especially the weekend warrior type "bro", (in and out, no local connection, English only) can bring a gun into the DR. And WHY would a "bro" need a gun in Sosua? Is he dealing crack? He has to protect his turf, I mean his sand? In case his nemesis from the hood bumps into him on Pedro Clisante and it's high noon at the OK corral? Oh wait, he needs his gun to do a drive-by on Dr. Rosen in his rental Kia?
There are pictures of the actual raid, or the aftermath, here:
http://www.noticiassin.com/2015/03/apresan-a-16-norteamericanos-y-siete-dominicanos-por-trafico-de-personas-en-puerto-plata/
Pretty sure it happened here (notice the pavers on the driveway and the similar architecture):
http://www.villasaguadulce.com/site/home.aspx
So this looks like an upscale development. Could be that too many people were having too wild of a party, Or too many women coming in and out over a few days straight, and the neighbors complained. Pretty much the same should this happen in my neighborhood in the suburb with a homeowners association. Certainly not where "bros" were simply being "obnoxious", showing folks their criminal record "rap sheet" and shoving people outside of Rumbas. This has zero impact on a NY "bro" coming down to have fun on the strip, going to Classicos and whoring-while-black.
...http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/dominican-republic-police-question-16-from-us-7-dominicans-after-prostitution/
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Below is the article, just in case people are having problems with the link:
Dominican Republic police question 16 from US, 7 Dominicans after prostitution raid near Sosua.
Published March 12,2015.
Associated Press.
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic Police in the Dominican Republic say they questioned 16 USA Citizens following a raid on a home that authorities say was being used for prostitution.
The raid took place in Agua Clara near the beach town of Sosua on the country's north coast. A statement issued by local police on Thursday says seven Dominicans were also held for questioning after the raid the previous day.
Police say 29 prostitutes were found at the home and some were younger than 18.
Authorities have not identified any of the people who were detained and prosecutors decline comment because the case remains under investigation.
Prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic, but anyone hiring a prostitute or running a brothel can face charges of sexual exploitation. Arrests, however, are rare.
I appreciate Haven123s input since I am always interested in crimes that occur in other countries, that involve Americans, whether it involves the death of Brent Lewis, the owner of Perla de Sosua; the death of a DC lawyer, who used to travel to Santo Domingo; or of an expat, who was killed by a Haitian women, several months ago, while the expat was living near Boca Chica. All this is good to know but I have found Sosua quite tame. I mean, when you have a group of guys all drinking and messing with women one would think the worst yet, for the most part, the mongers are quite well behaved. At most I've heard of complaints of mongers blasting music in the hotel area yet even with this things have calmed down. To tell you the truth I've seen more chicas act out than the mongers. I'd trust the tourists before I would ever trust the police. for the most part if one stays in the tourist areas it is quite safe. If one keeps away from the drugs and sex with minors one is even more safer. And don't get too drunk and you will not be a target for pickpockets and other crime. Stuff that people on this board, with any experience, should know.
Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.
I am still trying to find out more but the USA Embassy was involved so this was a planned sting. The USA Embassy is not going to just show up in Sousa for nothing. This should let everyone know check identification. i am just trying to be helpful with updates so people can make good decisions.
Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.I believe that having a felony conviction does not automatically disqualify you for obtaining a USA Passport. I did some homework. This is what I found:
Convicted felons may apply for a passport but acceptance is subject to compulsory or discretionary denial based on certain disqualifications. United States federal law automatically disqualifies anyone convicted of international drug trafficking.
Other things that can disqualify you:
Felony drug convictions.
Certain other drug convictions.
Child support cases.
Unpaid federal loans.
Being a minor who does not have parental consent to obtain a passport.
Under federal law 22 USA see. 2714, the USA Government will not issue you a passport if you are convicted of a felony federal or state drug offense while using a passport or crossing international boundaries during the commission of that crime. They would also revoke any existing passport in these cases. This disqualification is in effect throughout the duration of your imprisonment in a jail, stay in a halfway house or parole.
The USA Secretary of State may also disqualify you if you have been convicted of a misdemeanor state or federal drug charges, except in cases of misdemeanor drug charges that involve only a first offense possession of a controlled substance. The Secretary of State can grant exceptions in humanitarian cases.
Data is handed to the DR govt and local policia within 72 hours after arrival only when there is a prior US felony conviction involved with a US passport holder. What a fucking plan let the felons arrive for 3 days then tell the police. My friend the USA pounces on your ass when they have enough evidence they don't give you 3 days to get to sabana del Mar. Or Haiti.
The USA knows when a felon books his\her ticket.
Well put. I'm south asian and the aspect of my trips that I look forward to is to hang out with other mongers and celebrate our shared, most primal of passions.
Any cynical ploy to inject prejudice here is pathetic.
Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.
Mr Enternational
03-14-15, 12:33
Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.My buddy is a convicted felon and can not get a passport. He also has a job as a fireman. I would think there would be something against that as well but evidently not.
You should have zero issues or problems! They want tourists, they need tourists. The hotels need the business, the resrtaurants, bars and vendors on playa Sosua too!
The chicas also need dineros and some simply want to enjoy and have some fun times while they are still under 30.
The FOCUS is SOLELY on those that do not behave themselves and / or conduct themselves well. And particularly focused on those who, ALSO, have a felony criminal record in the US.
They are simply tired of this increase in guys with felony criminal records in the USA coming to Sosua and behaving like thugs. Simple as that!
Because that is affecting the real estate developers with the major dineros for the politicians and the policia.
The tourists, individually speaking (meaning 100 or 500 per year that they may have to arrest, and confiscate passports and deport back to the USA), are irrelevant from the standpoint of dineros, for the local government versus real estate development.
And it puts the USA Embassy in an embarrassing position, exactly where the DR government wants them!I sometimes hang with locals down there, spend a lot of time on the street.
I can tell you, they complain about a lot of things, the mafia (government) controlling the services, water, roads, gas, electricity, and the lack of tourist business (that's the big one) and petty thievery by local perps.
Nowhere in all my years have I heard them complain about bros from the NE fucking up the place, or seeing them causing trouble. and I'm a Canadian "paleface" lol
I've seen more violence down there than I want to, but it has always been between locals, and sometimes between police and locals.
Ironically, the biggest complaints about the "weekend warriors" comes from other mongers, even on this board, who don't approve of their spending habits. LOL.
I sometimes hang with locals down there, spend a lot of time on the street.
I can tell you, they complain about a lot of things, the mafia (government) controlling the services, water, roads, gas, electricity, and the lack of tourist business (that's the big one) and petty thievery by local perps.
Nowhere in all my years have I heard them complain about bros from the NE fucking up the place, or seeing them causing trouble. and I'm a Canadian "paleface" lol
I've seen more violence down there than I want to, but it has always been between locals, and sometimes between police and locals.
Ironically, the biggest complaints about the "weekend warriors" comes from other mongers, even on this board, who don't approve of their spending habits. LOL.I would imagine the overspending of the "weekend warriors" makes them more tolerable to the locals.
Below is the article, just in case people are having problems with the link:
Dominican Republic police question 16 from US, 7 Dominicans after prostitution raid near Sosua.
Published March 12,2015.
Associated Press.
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic Police in the Dominican Republic say they questioned 16 USA Citizens following a raid on a home that authorities say was being used for prostitution.
The raid took place in Agua Clara near the beach town of Sosua on the country's north coast. A statement issued by local police on Thursday says seven Dominicans were also held for questioning after the raid the previous day.
Police say 29 prostitutes were found at the home and some were younger than 18.
Authorities have not identified any of the people who were detained and prosecutors decline comment because the case remains under investigation.
Prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic, but anyone hiring a prostitute or running a brothel can face charges of sexual exploitation. Arrests, however, are rare.
I appreciate Haven123s input since I am always interested in crimes that occur in other countries, that involve Americans, whether it involves the death of Brent Lewis, the owner of Perla de Sosua; the death of a DC lawyer, who used to travel to Santo Domingo; or of an expat, who was killed by a Haitian women, several months ago, while the expat was living near Boca Chica. All this is good to know but I have found Sosua quite tame. I mean, when you have a group of guys all drinking and messing with women one would think the worst yet, for the most part, the mongers are quite well behaved. At most I've heard of complaints of mongers blasting music in the hotel area yet even with this things have calmed down. To tell you the truth I've seen more chicas act out than the mongers. I'd trust the tourists before I would ever trust the police. for the most part if one stays in the tourist areas it is quite safe. If one keeps away from the drugs and sex with minors one is even more safer. And don't get too drunk and you will not be a target for pickpockets and other crime. Stuff that people on this board, with any experience, should know.I would take the following from this:
1. There were 16 Americans arrested and 29 Dominican prostitutes. About 2 for each guy. This suggests that someone was involved in recruiting the correct number of women, rather than that each guy picked up 1. 9 ladies himself in bar or on the beach. Hence the charges of proxenetismo.
2. Some of the young women were [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902). When there are raids, they always seem to claim this, but perhaps it was true. In any case, it is a huge aggravating factor even if it turns out there was one 17-year-old who came along to chaperone her older sister.
3. The US Embassy organized crime squad was involved in some way, so there was some kind of intelligence or tipoff involved. Most likely this was not the first time one of these large meet-and-greets was arranged-or was this place operating as a kind of unlicensed all-inclusive resort for lonely single men?
No one here knows anything much about the background to this raid, and the press release, like those released after the closing of Passions, is pretty terse and contains little information other than what information the authorities have chosen to release. The information they have chosen to withhold would probably be more interesting.
My buddy is a convicted felon and can not get a passport. He also has a job as a fireman. I would think there would be something against that as well but evidently not.If he had a conviction for arson or using his lawn sprinkler system on the wrong day, he might be disqualified.
Tempoecorto
03-14-15, 14:38
I've seen more violence down there than I want to, but it has always been between locals, and sometimes between police and locals.I am completely with you on this. Unless someone on this board is a felon or into stuff that regulars are not, let's not get into a pissing contest. Reading the links, apparently whatever happened, transpired with the knowledge and assistance of the big brother and at least for me, who has yet to figure out the distinction between felony and misdemeanor, this does not even wind up on my radar screen as a blip. Rumors are best left elsewhere.
Convicted Felons can get a passport.
Convicted Felons can get a passport.Certain convicted felons like those who were convicted of child pornography or child sexual abuse cannot get a passport.
Charles Pooter
03-14-15, 18:12
I've been staying there on occasion for over 6 years now. They went through the resort and renovated the entire place. The food is basic and plain, but for me it is ideal and healthy. I genuinely like the place and a guy that I brought with me one time loved it, and he was used to high end stuff.
The washrooms are clean (you may have to do your business while the chica is mopping the floor in the next stall Lol)
I can more or less pick my room location once I get there, and we get extra special service in the restaurants from Francesco and Fabia.
Oh yeah, then there's that sweet deal!
When was the last time you saw it?Thanks, Oakie (and Frannie).
My information is clearly out of date and I was out of order posting it without checking further. Apologies to all here and to the new management at Casa Marina. Based on Oakie's update it does become another option for Jjbee.
SavePros321
03-15-15, 04:05
I believe that having a felony conviction does not automatically disqualify you for obtaining a USA Passport. I did some homework. This is what I found:
Convicted felons may apply for a passport but acceptance is subject to compulsory or discretionary denial based on certain disqualifications. United States federal law automatically disqualifies anyone convicted of international drug trafficking.
Other things that can disqualify you:
Felony drug convictions.
Certain other drug convictions.
Child support cases.
Unpaid federal loans.
Being a minor who does not have parental consent to obtain a passport.
LMAO, they are not fucking around with them student loans! You cannot even get them bytches discharged in a bankruptcy filing!
SavePros321
03-15-15, 04:20
I read much and no where have I seen any Bros having guns or being violent. It is clear that racist sterio types are being projected. Not killing messenger sharing the truth. In truth the report says nothing about where or who the arrested guys were. They could have 16 white frat guys but for some reason that is not the assumption.I agree with OldKool. I like to give the Weekend Baller shit for coming there and overspending, but I have never seen them act violent or slug it out with another crew. In fact, I've never seen any mongers fist fighting with one anther while down there.
BUT:
-I have seen young Dominicanos bucking one another.
-Chicas pulling out pistols:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DW-V_vb9wTc
-Dominicans shooting other Dominicans (the murder of "The Barbarian"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlK_AlYUI8
Incidentally, both of those events with the YouTube links took place at the bar El Flow.
Mr Enternational
03-15-15, 07:46
Incidentally, both of those events with the YouTube links took place at the bar El Flow.That El Flow is / was a mf wasn't it? Wingman sent me this yesterday.
"la decisión fué tomada debido a los constantes hechos sangrientos que se producen en el interior del bar"
http://www.detrasdelrumor.com.do/en-sosua-el-coba-dispone-el-cierre-de-premium-bar-antiguo-flow
I am completely with you on this. Unless someone on this board is a felon or into stuff that regulars are not, let's not get into a pissing contest. Reading the links, apparently whatever happened, transpired with the knowledge and assistance of the big brother and at least for me, who has yet to figure out the distinction between felony and misdemeanor, this does not even wind up on my radar screen as a blip. Rumors are best left elsewhere.Some mongers claim to have local "intel" or "sources on the street", even "my eyes and ears on the street", as the source for a lot of the rumours, LOL.
I know people who work legit there, run hotels and bars there, are putas there, pro, semi pro.
When I'd hear a rumour, I'd raise the subject with them to try and get a jump on what's really happening. The latest bar closing? a deportation?
They'd generally wave me off, with a "who knows, who cares", "so what else is new" attitude, roll their eyes and act as if it's all beyond their control, not their problem and they just want to get on with their day. They have actual life to deal with, and they accept what comes, one day at a time. They are on autopilot prepared for anything, at least in Sosua.
The only place where heated discussions of rumors take place is at the tables of the mongers, and here on this board. LOL.
Mongerer69
03-15-15, 14:30
On my way to Sosua in a few weeks with some friends. To those in the know. Exactly what kind of place is Samba de Brazil? Is it like Rumbas, a Chica Bar or just a chill place?
That El Flow is / was a mf wasn't it? Wingman sent me this yesterday.
"la decisin fu tomada debido a los constantes hechos sangrientos que se producen en el interior del bar"
http://www.detrasdelrumor.com.do/en-sosua-el-coba-dispone-el-cierre-de-premium-bar-antiguo-flow Dammit, that was my favorite place to drink wine coolers at the little tables on the sidewalk, chit chat, and watch the Putas stroll in and out of Rumbas and up and down the Strip!
Camaro1257
03-15-15, 16:00
Camaro's Sosua Synopsis March 2015.
Gentleman I have completed my first long term trip to the Dominican Republic. My objective for this trip was to secure my apartment and get more familiar with my surroundings. February was the month of Carnival in the Dominican Republic, when I wasn't in Sosua I was traveling to Santiago or visiting Carnival sites like La Vega and Bonao.
Now that I live in the Sosua area I will view things from a different perspective and periodically report my observations for the benefit of the board.
Below I have listed my notes for your review.
Inclement weather.
During my time in the United States I left home which was 25 degrees to visit my son in Ohio and I was greeted with 5 degree temperatures. Upon my arrival in the Dominican Republic it was 80 degrees but evenings were cool and at night the temperature dropped down to about 65 degrees, it rained almost every night and early in the morning during my stay.
Victorian House.
Upon my arrival my apartment was not ready and needed some work so stayed at the Victorian House. I got the $50.00 special and expected a normal room; I follow the porter to the right side of the complex and discovered they booked me in a 1 bedroom apartment and I was like WTF?
The apartment is very nice with white appointed furniture in the living room and a small dining area. The major drawback is there is no functional kitchen because the stove does not work. The bedroom is spacious and comfortable. There is a view of Sosua Bay but it is obstructed by some of the other buildings.
I have had my challenges with Victorian House from intermittent internet to problems to a toilet with running water. The staff has always been attentive and polite with me but this takes the cake. Putting me in an apartment that generally goes for almost twice what I normally pay for a standard room is nothing short of OUTSTANDING!
Bourbon Street Restaurant at Victorian House.
Bourbon Street is the restaurant at Victoria House. The food generally is good however the prices are inflated. The same breakfast that would cost you 250 pesos in town could cost 400 pesos or more at Bourbon Street. I really can't blame them because their market is extranjeros and of course we pay more.
As always I love the staff!
Super Bowl Weekend.
My trip commenced right after Super Bowl weekend. There were reports during Super Bowl weekend that chicas were quoting $100-$150 US or 6000-7000 pesos for ST. Not only are prices reported to be high but service is reported to be sub-par because the chicas are looking for high turnover in order to get as much money as they can.
Although there are generally many 8's and some 9's in town I personally prefer not to corrupt the market and stand on principle not paying those ridiculous prices. Does 7000 peso toto feel better than 2000 pesos toto? I rationalize my position by understanding that without people like us she would have to get a real job. The bottom line is I have to discipline myself to be able to walk away and not look back which is easier said than done sometimes.
Chica Prices in general.
It appears as if prices are creeping up. In relation to the devaluation of the peso against the dollar therefore the increased prices can be understood. The Pedro Clisante chicas are expecting 2500-3000 pesos for ST and 3000-4000 pesos for TLN. 1500-2000 can still be had depending on the chica the time of day and where she is at the time. On the stroll in the middle of the day you might could squeeze 1000-1500 pesos but at Rumbas in the evening you would be hard pressed getting an 8 for less than 2000 pesos unless you have some type of history with her.
My concern about prices is the more you pay does not insure better service in fact for some the service is mediocre at best.
Pedro Clisante West update March 14,2015.
As it has been previously reported Pedro Clisante has gone through some changes. The street was closing at 6 pm to vehicular traffic and tables are put out in front of many of the establishments but now it has been re-opened.
The two major additions to Sosua night life in this area are Club X and Bronnffy's Bar & Lounge.
Club X.
Club X is across the street from Classicos / Merengue it opens at the same time as Classicos but doesn't get busy until after Classicos closes. The club has a bar dance floor and 2 VIP sections. Those who are not ready to retire can cross the street and continue the party at Club X. After One is dead now so Club X has replaced After One as the after party spot.
One Saturday I was there they had live music and the cover was 200 pesos it was well worth the investment.
The Winners Circle:
I saw a little crowd there each time I walked by but mostly people standing out front. The Winners Circle is next door to Club X and it appears as if Club X is taking some of their fire.
Bronnffy's Bar & Lounge.
Bronnffy's Bar & Lounge is "The Spot" under new management. They painted inside but other than that it has the same feel and customer base. Almost nada. It makes for a nice place to do an interview and vibe with a chica if you feel so inclined.
They have a tout outside that will do everything he can to get you to come inside IDK maybe he gets a commission?
City Lights:
I like the layout of the club in fact I think it is classier in appearance than Rumba as an open air bar but there may have been less than 3 or 4 people there every time I passed by. It is definitely an under used venue I have no idea what they can do to increase business.
Rumbas:
Rumbas has become ground central for Pedro Clisante west. Rumbas is now a spot that stays active much later. In times past it was very active between 7-10 pm but now it can stay active up until 1 am. Rumbas has replaced the Latins as the go to spot on Pedro Clisante west.
Rumbas has a restaurant outside that is great for dinner and watching the chica parade. I have also used it for chica interviews because the music can be distracting inside Rumba.
The Premium Disco Bar.
As mentioned in the previous thread apparently the authorities raided the Premium Disco Bar on Friday, March 13,2014. It is unknown at this point the exact reasoning for the closure but it appears as if previous incidents of violence and gun-play are a part of the reasons for the closure. I took pictures and could see no official notification from the government.
Merengue:
They keep the door closed and serve snack food like chicken wings etc. It is a very chill spot and I love the staff they are always friendly. I also like being able to watch the chica parade up to Classicos through the glass partitions.
Classicos:
The crown of Sosua night life. Right now if Classicos was not open Sosua night life for mongers would suck! I used to enjoy the night club atmosphere and air-conditioning. Sosua's best comes out even on slow nights you can find a few 8's in the house. They open at 11 pm and it is on and poppin by 1 am.
Bar Central Hotel.
Bar Central is an indoor bar with a hotel in the rear. If you are on the Pedro Clisante strip obviously Bar Central is closer for a quickie if you decide not to go to your hotel room. The windows were closed unlike my last trip when the windows were open.
Pedro Clisante East update March 14,2015.
Rancho Tipico.
I decided I would try to experience the west end of Pedro Clisante for an evening. I arrived at Rancho Tipico just before 10 pm and had the wings. Since I do not drink I ordered 3 bottles of water while I sat at my table. Just before midnight the owner approached me with a drink in his hand and said "amigo you can't just drink water" I replied "but I had dinner" and he replied saying "I don't give a fuck!" I then asked what I had to do and he said "I need the table I don't give a fuck!" and he pushed me aside as I was waiting to pay my bill. Given his speech was slurred and he was holding a glass of what appeared to be alcoholic beverage I suspect he was under the influence. I immediately left after paying my bill as I did not want any problems.
Samba Brasil.
I have been meaning to spend more time on the east end of Pedro Clisante in order to break my Rumba-Merengue routine, I wanted to spend more time at Rancho Tipico but since that is out I tried Samba Brasil which is on the same side of the street and just before you get to Rancho Tipico.
The venue has a bar and an area in back with lounge chairs but every time I have walked by only the bar has been occupied. There is one flat screen TV that plays sports. When I was there the bar had about 5 camareras that made every effort to entertain the customers. I met 1 who was cute who was good at striking up a conversation with me and she was very pleasant. I may return for the digits we shall see.
My main concern was there was little else to do other than drink and talk to the camareras. There was no food chips popcorn or anything to munch on, if I were the owner I would at least keep some snacks on deck for those who get the munchies.
The infamous Fior works there but she has picked up a few pounds age and babies tell the story on a woman's body.
Dulce Secreto Cabana.
The primary and best cabana option in the area is Dulce Secreto. Bar Central is available but the rooms are sub-par and it is understood why some chicas do not want to go there. Regular rooms are 600 pesos and jacuzi rooms are 800 pesos. Dulce Secreto has become my friend now that I have an apartment because when I meet a new lady on the street I would prefer not to bring her to a cabana than to my apartment in the event something goes wrong. The extra expense is worth the peace of mind of the possibility of having somebody nut up on me in my home. The problem is that Dulce Secreto has less than 10 rooms and on certain nights they fill up fast, therefore on occasion I am left with the choice to abandon the chica or take her to my apartment.
Dulce Secreto remains a great option for those who need a backup plan.
Anecdotal thoughts.
I noticed an increasing amount of Sosua chicas smoking cigarettes which I had not seen before. As if they need another expense to have to keep up with. I guess cigarette smoking is their way of dealing with their stress.
Now that I will be doing extended stays in the Sosua area I have to transition from the tourist mindset to the ex-pat mindset. This includes paying more reasonable rates or changing the chica pool. It remains to be seen how many Pedro Clisante chicas I can get to give me ex-pat rates.
On this trip I spent an extensive amount of time in Santiago as well as visited La Vega and Bonao for Carnival. I also visited Cabarette a few times to break the Sosua monotony.
Previously my travel was by Carribe Tours, Metro, gua gua, carro publico, moto-concho or walking. Now that I have a car it will give me an opportunity to travel places I would not have considered before. I am excited to see what excursions I can take off the beaten path.
Conclusion.
I am going home for a couple of weeks to check on family and friends and when I return I will keep you updated on changes on the ground.
I went to Sosua and stayed at the Marina Reef. Basically from where I live you just can't get a better deal. Essentially the hotel and flight are almost the same price as the flight. I am going back in a week. I was under the impression that you just couldn't bring in girls. Punto- but I am getting the impression from some of these posts that it may be possible. So - is it possible. Is it going to cost an arm and a leg. How do I do it.
Mr Enternational
03-15-15, 18:06
On my way to Sosua in a few weeks with some friends. To those in the know. Exactly what kind of place is Samba de Brazil? Is it like Rumbas, a Chica Bar or just a chill place?Chill place. When I went it was only me, one other guy, and the girls who work there. The music is too damn loud as with most places there. And they do have wifi.
Charles Pooter
03-15-15, 19:10
I went to Sosua and stayed at the Marina Reef. Basically from where I live you just can't get a better deal. Essentially the hotel and flight are almost the same price as the flight. I was under the impression that you just couldn't bring in girls. Punto- but I am getting the impression from some of these posts that it may be possible. So - is it possible. Is it going to cost an arm and a leg. How do I do it?As I posted below, depending on when you live, if you can get the hotel thrown in, more or less for free, it can be a good deal. Especially as Oakie and Frannie assure us it is now a decent hotel.
But by the time you have paid out for short-time accommodation (Rocky's or Dulce Secreto are the two most popular options) you won't have saved much, if anything. It depends how many chicas you want to fuck during your trip. If you are doing three a day, cheaper to book a room at Rocky's in addition to your hotel. If just one or two a week to spice up a conventional sun 'and sand holiday, then use Dulce Secreto.
Camaro's Sosua Synopsis March 2015.Thank you for a great update report!
I went to Sosua and stayed at the Marina Reef. Basically from where I live you just can't get a better deal. Essentially the hotel and flight are almost the same price as the flight. I am going back in a week. I was under the impression that you just couldn't bring in girls. Punto- but I am getting the impression from some of these posts that it may be possible. So - is it possible. Is it going to cost an arm and a leg. How do I do it.As a fairly frequent guest of Casa Marina, I can tell you that they only let chicas in who are registered guests. The tab for an additional registered guest is something like $85 per day, so it's not a viable option for a casual monger.
Because it's a sweet deal from Toronto, you get the all inclusive room for not much more than the bare air fare, and it's a regular 3 to 4 hr non stop flight. I can always give my regular DR chica a vacation for almost free, and she loves it.
A couple of weeks ago I was there and changed my routine up a little. Normally my chica meets me there and negotiates the upgrade from single to double. This time I asked Nolitours who run the tour to get me a single fare down, and a double room occupancy with her on the reservation.
This was great, cost me $1200 Canadian ($935 USA) plus a small internet charge. Not bad for Airfare for me and all inclusive for two in a great room, great beach, great location (with a very happy chica!)
(She's got a sense of humor too, when I mentioned our ground floor sliding patio door wasn't locking properly, she said, "That's OK, there's no Dominicans in this week)
Camaro's Sosua Synopsis March 2015.
Gentleman I have completed my first long term trip to the Dominican Republic. My objective for this trip was to secure my apartment and get more familiar with my surroundings. February was the month of Carnival in the Dominican Republic, when I wasn't in Sosua I was traveling to Santiago or visiting Carnival sites like La Vega and Bonao.
Now that I live in the Sosua area I will view things from a different perspective and periodically report my observations for the benefit of the board.
Below I have listed my notes for your review.
Inclement weather.
During my time in the United States I left home which was 25 degrees to visit my son in Ohio and I was greeted with 5 degree temperatures. Upon my arrival in the Dominican Republic it was 80 degrees but evenings were cool and at night the temperature dropped down to about 65 degrees, it rained almost every night and early in the morning during my stay.
Victorian House.
Upon my arrival my apartment was not ready and needed some work so stayed at the Victorian House. I got the $50.00 special and expected a normal room; I follow the porter to the right side of the complex and discovered they booked me in a 1 bedroom apartment and I was like WTF?
The apartment is very nice with white appointed furniture in the living room and a small dining area. The major drawback is there is no functional kitchen because the stove does not work. The bedroom is spacious and comfortable. There is a view of Sosua Bay but it is obstructed by some of the other buildings.
I have had my challenges with Victorian House from intermittent internet to problems to a toilet with running water. The staff has always been attentive and polite with me but this takes the cake. Putting me in an apartment that generally goes for almost twice what I normally pay for a standard room is nothing short of OUTSTANDING!
Bourbon Street Restaurant at Victorian House.
Bourbon Street is the restaurant at Victoria House. The food generally is good however the prices are inflated. The same breakfast that would cost you 250 pesos in town could cost 400 pesos or more at Bourbon Street. I really can't blame them because their market is extranjeros and of course we pay more.
As always I love the staff!
Super Bowl Weekend.
My trip commenced right after Super Bowl weekend. There were reports during Super Bowl weekend that chicas were quoting $100-$150 US or 6000-7000 pesos for ST. Not only are prices reported to be high but service is reported to be sub-par because the chicas are looking for high turnover in order to get as much money as they can.
Although there are generally many 8's and some 9's in town I personally prefer not to corrupt the market and stand on principle not paying those ridiculous prices. Does 7000 peso toto feel better than 2000 pesos toto? I rationalize my position by understanding that without people like us she would have to get a real job. The bottom line is I have to discipline myself to be able to walk away and not look back which is easier said than done sometimes.
Chica Prices in general.
It appears as if prices are creeping up. In relation to the devaluation of the peso against the dollar therefore the increased prices can be understood. The Pedro Clisante chicas are expecting 2500-3000 pesos for ST and 3000-4000 pesos for TLN. 1500-2000 can still be had depending on the chica the time of day and where she is at the time. On the stroll in the middle of the day you might could squeeze 1000-1500 pesos but at Rumbas in the evening you would be hard pressed getting an 8 for less than 2000 pesos unless you have some type of history with her.
My concern about prices is the more you pay does not insure better service in fact for some the service is mediocre at best.
Pedro Clisante West update March 14,2015.
As it has been previously reported Pedro Clisante has gone through some changes. The street was closing at 6 pm to vehicular traffic and tables are put out in front of many of the establishments but now it has been re-opened.
The two major additions to Sosua night life in this area are Club X and Bronnffy's Bar & Lounge.
Club X.
Club X is across the street from Classicos / Merengue it opens at the same time as Classicos but doesn't get busy until after Classicos closes. The club has a bar dance floor and 2 VIP sections. Those who are not ready to retire can cross the street and continue the party at Club X. After One is dead now so Club X has replaced After One as the after party spot.
One Saturday I was there they had live music and the cover was 200 pesos it was well worth the investment.
The Winners Circle:
I saw a little crowd there each time I walked by but mostly people standing out front. The Winners Circle is next door to Club X and it appears as if Club X is taking some of their fire.
Bronnffy's Bar & Lounge.
Bronnffy's Bar & Lounge is "The Spot" under new management. They painted inside but other than that it has the same feel and customer base. Almost nada. It makes for a nice place to do an interview and vibe with a chica if you feel so inclined.
They have a tout outside that will do everything he can to get you to come inside IDK maybe he gets a commission?
City Lights:
I like the layout of the club in fact I think it is classier in appearance than Rumba as an open air bar but there may have been less than 3 or 4 people there every time I passed by. It is definitely an under used venue I have no idea what they can do to increase business.
Rumbas:
Rumbas has become ground central for Pedro Clisante west. Rumbas is now a spot that stays active much later. In times past it was very active between 7-10 pm but now it can stay active up until 1 am. Rumbas has replaced the Latins as the go to spot on Pedro Clisante west.
Rumbas has a restaurant outside that is great for dinner and watching the chica parade. I have also used it for chica interviews because the music can be distracting inside Rumba.
The Premium Disco Bar.
As mentioned in the previous thread apparently the authorities raided the Premium Disco Bar on Friday, March 13,2014. It is unknown at this point the exact reasoning for the closure but it appears as if previous incidents of violence and gun-play are a part of the reasons for the closure. I took pictures and could see no official notification from the government.
Merengue:
They keep the door closed and serve snack food like chicken wings etc. It is a very chill spot and I love the staff they are always friendly. I also like being able to watch the chica parade up to Classicos through the glass partitions.
Classicos:
The crown of Sosua night life. Right now if Classicos was not open Sosua night life for mongers would suck! I used to enjoy the night club atmosphere and air-conditioning. Sosua's best comes out even on slow nights you can find a few 8's in the house. They open at 11 pm and it is on and poppin by 1 am.
Bar Central Hotel.
Bar Central is an indoor bar with a hotel in the rear. If you are on the Pedro Clisante strip obviously Bar Central is closer for a quickie if you decide not to go to your hotel room. The windows were closed unlike my last trip when the windows were open.
Pedro Clisante East update March 14,2015.
Rancho Tipico.
I decided I would try to experience the west end of Pedro Clisante for an evening. I arrived at Rancho Tipico just before 10 pm and had the wings. Since I do not drink I ordered 3 bottles of water while I sat at my table. Just before midnight the owner approached me with a drink in his hand and said "amigo you can't just drink water" I replied "but I had dinner" and he replied saying "I don't give a fuck!" I then asked what I had to do and he said "I need the table I don't give a fuck!" and he pushed me aside as I was waiting to pay my bill. Given his speech was slurred and he was holding a glass of what appeared to be alcoholic beverage I suspect he was under the influence. I immediately left after paying my bill as I did not want any problems.
Samba Brasil.
I have been meaning to spend more time on the east end of Pedro Clisante in order to break my Rumba-Merengue routine, I wanted to spend more time at Rancho Tipico but since that is out I tried Samba Brasil which is on the same side of the street and just before you get to Rancho Tipico.
The venue has a bar and an area in back with lounge chairs but every time I have walked by only the bar has been occupied. There is one flat screen TV that plays sports. When I was there the bar had about 5 camareras that made every effort to entertain the customers. I met 1 who was cute who was good at striking up a conversation with me and she was very pleasant. I may return for the digits we shall see.
My main concern was there was little else to do other than drink and talk to the camareras. There was no food chips popcorn or anything to munch on, if I were the owner I would at least keep some snacks on deck for those who get the munchies.
The infamous Fior works there but she has picked up a few pounds age and babies tell the story on a woman's body.
Dulce Secreto Cabana.
The primary and best cabana option in the area is Dulce Secreto. Bar Central is available but the rooms are sub-par and it is understood why some chicas do not want to go there. Regular rooms are 600 pesos and jacuzi rooms are 800 pesos. Dulce Secreto has become my friend now that I have an apartment because when I meet a new lady on the street I would prefer not to bring her to a cabana than to my apartment in the event something goes wrong. The extra expense is worth the peace of mind of the possibility of having somebody nut up on me in my home. The problem is that Dulce Secreto has less than 10 rooms and on certain nights they fill up fast, therefore on occasion I am left with the choice to abandon the chica or take her to my apartment.
Dulce Secreto remains a great option for those who need a backup plan.
Anecdotal thoughts.
I noticed an increasing amount of Sosua chicas smoking cigarettes which I had not seen before. As if they need another expense to have to keep up with. I guess cigarette smoking is their way of dealing with their stress.
Now that I will be doing extended stays in the Sosua area I have to transition from the tourist mindset to the ex-pat mindset. This includes paying more reasonable rates or changing the chica pool. It remains to be seen how many Pedro Clisante chicas I can get to give me ex-pat rates.
On this trip I spent an extensive amount of time in Santiago as well as visited La Vega and Bonao for Carnival. I also visited Cabarette a few times to break the Sosua monotony.
Previously my travel was by Carribe Tours, Metro, gua gua, carro publico, moto-concho or walking. Now that I have a car it will give me an opportunity to travel places I would not have considered before. I am excited to see what excursions I can take off the beaten path.
Conclusion.
I am going home for a couple of weeks to check on family and friends and when I return I will keep you updated on changes on the ground.Great report Camaro!
With a few more hotel choices it would be the definitive guide for a newbie. Can't wait to hear about your experiences setting up house down there!
Arrested by INTERPOL I was told. Canadian justice were searching for fraud worth millions in Canada. He could be in big trouble.
WorldTraveler3
03-16-15, 03:03
Arrested by INTERPOL I was told. Canadian justice were searching for fraud worth millions in Canada. He could be in big trouble.That's not good I was.
Supposed to be staying at one of his property's guess I should be looking into some where else.
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I am shocked to hear that Rick was involved with anything illegal. He has always been very helpful and dependable. I never thought he would that kind of thing his character. He seems very simple guy.
Arrested by INTERPOL I was told. Canadian justice were searching for fraud worth millions in Canada. He could be in big trouble.
Manizales911
03-16-15, 05:36
Arrested by INTERPOL I was told. Canadian justice were searching for fraud worth millions in Canada. He could be in big trouble.Any time Interpol is involved it is big time trouble for whomever they are after. Here is the link: http://www.detrasdelrumor.com.do/en-sosua-interpol-apresa-canadiense/.
Mr Enternational
03-16-15, 05:51
I am shocked to hear that Rick was involved with anything illegal. He has always been very helpful and dependable. I never thought he would that kind of thing his character. He seems very simple guy.The same things were said about Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, and the list goes on. That that type of story is an everyday occurence here in Thailand. Foreigner does some big shit back home and picks this place thinking they will be able to lay low. You can run, but you can't hide. Old Kool said he seemed simple, but the article said he lived like a prince.
The same things were said about Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, and the list goes on. That that type of story is an everyday occurence here in Thailand. Foreigner does some big shit back home and picks this place thinking they will be able to lay low. You can run, but you can't hide. Old Kool said he seemed simple, but the article said he lived like a prince.I'm not prepared to throw Rick under the bus so quickly. Don't forget we are talking about the DR, one of the most corrupt places I have ever been. Every major foreign business owner has been arrested over the last two years. We have the owner of Rumbas, the owner of Classicos, the owner of Passions and others. Hell, were they are corrupt? If so then they all were paying big in the DR to operate, and most of them were in business for along time and not trying to hide from anyone.
Rick was a good friend to all foreigners, and assisted many guys who had got into trouble and had no where else to turn. He was the go to guy for help when we needed it. He wasn't scared to take on the locals to assist a foreigner, and may have made many local enemies. What confuses me is that Interpol is involved. If he is Canadian and committed a crime in Canada why didn't the Canadian authorities just go get him being he wasn't trying to hide?
Its a "Take over", by who we don't know but I have me suspicions. Some say the Dominicans see the future potential of Sosua. Some say the foreign developers are clearing land for their projects, some say the tourist industry wants a clean Sosua, some say its fallout from the recent raid of the villa locally etc. Whats interesting is that the cleanup is starting from the top and not from the bottom which makes me think that whoever is involved has deep pockets.
Understand this; if they can railroad Rick then they can easily fuck us and there is nothing we can do about it. Even if everything they say about Rick proves true, I can say that he was a Foreign guys friend in troubled times, and many guys would thank him for his support.
WorldTraveler3
03-16-15, 06:46
The same things were said about Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, and the list goes on. That that type of story is an everyday occurence here in Thailand. Foreigner does some big shit back home and picks this place thinking they will be able to lay low. You can run, but you can't hide. Old Kool said he seemed simple, but the article said he lived like a prince.Does anybody know if there still someone there managing all his properties was just there and his partner was around (I forgot the name).
The same things were said about Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, and the list goes on. That that type of story is an everyday occurence here in Thailand. Foreigner does some big shit back home and picks this place thinking they will be able to lay low. You can run, but you can't hide. Old Kool said he seemed simple, but the article said he lived like a prince.This is the guy that used to fix my computer, and clean and fix my gashed toe, living and working out of an (overcrowded with junk) small non air conditioned room?
I must have missed his "palace".
Lol
If Interpol was involved, wasn't their big thing old pirated VHS tapes?
Lol
Ricks wife was driving a very expensive suv but rick always looked disheveled. I always enjoyed eating and chilling at Rockys. Rick was rarely there now a days. Any body know how the place got the name Rockys.
Manizales911
03-16-15, 14:26
This is the guy that used to fix my computer, and clean and fix my gashed toe, living and working out of an (overcrowded with junk) small non air conditioned room?
I must have missed his "palace".
Lol
If Interpol was involved, wasn't their big thing old pirated VHS tapes?
LolRick lived with his wife at Mary Rose. They would leave the door to their apartment open all day in case a customer needed them, he helped many a monger in many ways including getting them out of jail. He SEEMED like a good guy but you can't tell a book by it's cover I guess.
Chris Long
03-16-15, 15:40
This is the guy that used to fix my computer, and clean and fix my gashed toe, living and working out of an (overcrowded with junk) small non air conditioned room?
I must have missed his "palace".
Lol
If Interpol was involved, wasn't their big thing old pirated VHS tapes?
LolThe guy your talking about is Mark he was the original owner of Rockys and Rick bought it from him. Bit of a strange character in many ways. For the first two years of me staying there I never seen him leave that overcrowded with junk small non air conditioned room and I've never seen him with a chica. Seems strange to live there and not sample the chicas. He seems like a nice guy at first but once you get to know him he can be a bit condescending in conversations.
Chriss
Chris Long
03-16-15, 15:45
Does anybody know if there still someone there managing all his properties was just there and his partner was around forgot the name.Rick having a partner? That's news to me, you must be referring to his brother.
Chriss
SavePros321
03-16-15, 15:52
Ricks wife was driving a very expensive suv but rick always looked disheveled. I always enjoyed eating and chilling at Rockys. Rick was rarely there now a days. Any body know how the place got the name Rockys.Don't know how it got the name "Rocky's", but they've always had the best ribs in Sosua!
The place was named after the first owners dog. I met him on my last trip. He was computer expert. He sold the place to Rick a few years back.
E.
Don't know how it got the name "Rocky's", but they've always had the best ribs in Sosua!
Its a "Take over", by who we don't know but I have me suspicions. Some say the Dominicans see the future potential of Sosua. Some say the foreign developers are clearing land for their projects, some say the tourist industry wants a clean Sosua, some say its fallout from the recent raid of the villa locally etc. Whats interesting is that the cleanup is starting from the top and not from the bottom which makes me think that whoever is involved has deep pockets.
Understand this; if they can railroad Rick then they can easily fuck us and there is nothing we can do about it. Even if everything they say about Rick proves true, I can say that he was a Foreign guys friend in troubled times, and many guys would thank him for his support.C'mon., it's obvious. It's modus operandi in third world countries and I have had two close friends fucked the same way in Nassau and Freeport.
They let the foreigners invest, take the risk, build the business, start making money, and then suddenly, there's visa problems, police harassment. Close it down for a while, then re-open with guess what? A politically correct and policia approved local. Business as usual. Just another bloodless takeover.
Many ex pat businessmen have something to hide, that's why they are out of their own country. It's like shooting ducks.
In the case of my friends they were clean and involved in major brands, and yet they were kicked out too. And, there's nobody to complain to in those countries.
It's got nothing to do with development, marinas, family values, it is simply all about money!
SavePros321
03-16-15, 17:08
I'm not prepared to throw Rick under the bus so quickly. Don't forget we are talking about the DR, one of the most corrupt places I have ever been. Every major foreign business owner has been arrested over the last two years. We have the owner of Rumbas, the owner of Classicos, the owner of Passions and others. Hell, were they are corrupt? If so then they all were paying big in the DR to operate, and most of them were in business for along time and not trying to hide from anyone.
Its a "Take over", by who we don't know but I have me suspicions. Some say the Dominicans see the future potential of Sosua. Some say the foreign developers are clearing land for their projects, some say the tourist industry wants a clean Sosua, some say its fallout from the recent raid of the villa locally etc. Whats interesting is that the cleanup is starting from the top and not from the bottom which makes me think that whoever is involved has deep pockets.
I completely agree with you in that this looks like a "Take over" based on all the points you hit (them going after the owners). I can't see this being called any other way.
Member #4432
03-16-15, 17:52
Hey, I am pretty new this so just wanted some input from you guys who I was planning to go to Sousa at the end of this Month from the 27-31 for the first time and wanted to know it if is a good.
Idea to go or not since Easter is coming up the next Weekend. Since it may be packed crazy there with lack of chicas up-selling or not. Just looking for any kind advice from you guys.
Thanks
Don't anyone be surprised if there are raids by the policia at Rumbas. Make all mongers there produce passports, spread the hands and legs, arrest them and throw them in jail and enter records in passport data base for airport immigration. Gringo mongers are going to be harassed again and again in Sosua. That is the new game plan!
They are going to shut down Rumbas too soon or arrest the owner, deport him on any pretext or harass the clientele there.
Yeah, it's BS, gringo mongers and businesses that primarily cater to them in Sosua will have no rights and the Dominicans will take over flashpoint businesses.
This is all being done for the benefit of the real estate developers in Sosua who are primarily Italian and some Russian and German.
It sucks and I am pissed too. Don't shoot the messenger please. I only started visiting in the last 18 months and do like it for the conveniences that I have described in an earlier post. We guys need to keep a low profile and not be publicly exposing the monger face of Sosua. That's what the real estate developers find is their sales hurdle because mongers generally are not at all a target customer for buying real estate in Sosua.
Yeah this is all about business and major dineros. Anyone in the way will get arrested for trumped up reasons. Happening in Costambar as well.
Don't anyone be surprised if there are raids by the policia at Rumbas. Make all mongers there produce passports, spread the hands and legs, arrest them and throw them in jail and enter records in passport data base for airport immigration. Gringo mongers are going to be harassed again and again in Sosua. That is the new game plan!
They are going to shut down Rumbas too soon or arrest the owner, deport him on any pretext or harass the clientele there.
Enough with the "The sky is falling!" bullshit!
Some of us have been through the toughest Sosua crack downs, the biggest was December 2010.
Sosua will always be Sosua, even after multiple crack downs.
SavePros321
03-16-15, 18:41
Idea to go or not since Easter is coming up the next Weekend. Since it may be packed crazy there with lack of chicas up-selling or not. Just looking for any kind advice from you guys.
ThanksEaster is not until April 5th.
Hey, I am pretty new this so just wanted some input from you guys who I was planning to go to Sousa at the end of this Month from the 27-31 for the first time and wanted to know it if is a good.
Idea to go or not since Easter is coming up the next Weekend. Since it may be packed crazy there with lack of chicas up-selling or not. Just looking for any kind advice from you guys.
ThanksI'd say go. But better to stay away from Rumbas for now, in my view. Just one guys view or opinion FWIW.
It's a great place, no need to take motos or taxis when you are there. Beaches. Restaurants, bars, discos, supermercado etc all within walking distance. Cabarete is close by. More folks who can speak some english. Etc.
SavePros321
03-16-15, 19:55
Idea to go or not since Easter is coming up the next Weekend. Since it may be packed crazy there with lack of chicas up-selling or not. Just looking for any kind advice from you guys.
ThanksMy bad, missed the "the part" initially. But yeah, the week leading up to Easter is usually a terrible time to monger in any place that has a very large Catholic population, so much of the Caribbean and Latin America in general.
C'mon., it's obvious. It's modus operandi in third world countries and I have had two close friends fucked the same way in Nassau and Freeport.
They let the foreigners invest, take the risk, build the business, start making money, and then suddenly, there's visa problems, police harassment. Close it down for a while, then re-open with guess what? A politically correct and policia approved local. Business as usual. Just another bloodless takeover.
Many ex pat businessmen have something to hide, that's why they are out of their own country. It's like shooting ducks.
In the case of my friends they were clean and involved in major brands, and yet they were kicked out too. And, there's nobody to complain to in those countries.
It's got nothing to do with development, marinas, family values, it is simply all about money!This time it's not that simple Sir. We all agree that the Dominicans do backward shit that doesn't make sense but we can also agree that Dominicans don't like the " long game" they want fast money and want it all. It's new dynamics involved in this that I've discussed behind the scenes that are about control more than money. We are seeing the immigration agencies, the US embassy and Interpol agencies involved. Also I know of two USA Agencies in POP that haven't been mentioned. All the people arrested were business owners who were paying to play and still got arrested. None was bigger than the Classico owner who was a major player on the north coast. It's not just about money.
The guy your talking about is Mark he was the original owner of Rockys and Rick bought it from him. Bit of a strange character in many ways. For the first two years of me staying there I never seen him leave that overcrowded with junk small non air conditioned room and I've never seen him with a chica. Seems strange to live there and not sample the chicas. He seems like a nice guy at first but once you get to know him he can be a bit condescending in conversations.
ChrissHey thanks Chris.
Now the story DOES make some sense. It's Mark I was talking about, the original owner of Rocky's, not Rick.
(Mark does have a girlfriend though, I've seen her pics :))
We guys need to keep a low profile and not be publicly exposing the monger face of Sosua. That's what the real estate developers find is their sales hurdle because mongers generally are not at all a target customer for buying real estate in Sosua.Well, can we now add this new threat to the Newbies Cheat Sheet?
Along with bait and switch putas, petty thieves and pickpockets, we now have to avoid disgruntled Real Estate vilgilantes?
Too much! LOL.
Tempoecorto
03-16-15, 21:11
Easter is not until April 5th.I think he meant East "the week after (his planned week)" rather than the next weekend. As far as I know (no direct experience), the week before Easter might be quite good, given that apparently more women would be looking to make money, prior the holiday week.
Enough with the "The sky is falling!" bullshit!
Some of us have been through the toughest Sosua crack downs, the biggest was December 2010.
Sosua will always be Sosua, even after multiple crack downs.
Well, can we now add this new threat to the Newbies Cheat Sheet?
Along with bait and switch putas, petty thieves and pickpockets, we now have to avoid disgruntled Real Estate vilgilantes?
Too much! LOL.I think that's the wrong read! It's not just them (they only provide the dineros) but folks who are working for them egged on and pushed forward by the US embassy, Interpol and other US, Canadian and European agencies linked to money laundering, drugs, trafficking in women etc. These other entities are not so much providing dineros but rather information and diplomatic pressure on a government with minimal clout, So it's a collaborative effort to change the face of Sosua. Laugh all you want.
They are not after the little guy or an individual monger but rather the collection of it all.
Money laundering and drugs are also involved.
I think that's the wrong read! It's not just them (they only provide the dineros) but folks who are working for them egged on and pushed forward by the US embassy, Interpol and other US, Canadian and European agencies linked to money laundering, drugs, trafficking in women etc. These other entities are not so much providing dineros but rather information and diplomatic pressure on a government with minimal clout, So it's a collaborative effort to change the face of Sosua. Laugh all you want.
Stop the nonsense.
Camaro just wrote an excellent report. And now you continue with "The sky is falling!"
The FACE of Sosua is always changing! And it has for years!
After the big crack down in December 2010, everyone thought Sosua was forever gone.
I watched Classicos closed and reopen. Latinos, across from Rumba, change owners twice, then closed. The opening of the D Latin and the closing of the D Latin. When Passions closed, it the the end for Sosua, but it was not to be. The "Cruise Ship" will sink Sosua! Never happened. All the bars had to cover their windows, but yet they close the main street. But now it is open again.
Yes, you are seeing some changes, but Sosua will remain Sosua.
I completely agree with you in that this looks like a "Take over" based on all the points you hit (them going after the owners). I can't see this being called any other way.I find amusing the deference and slack people on this board are willing to give to ex pat owners. I have been living in DR for most of the last 7 years and visited frequently since the 80's and with one exception I have found them to treat their workers as despicable as Dominican bosses do but at least the latter do it to their own people. They may look and talk like you and you may feel at ease in their establishment but more often than not their prices are much higher than the locally owned and when talking to them they act in a very condescending if nor rude manner. Many are shady characters with checkered pasts and are involved in dubious activities as loan sharking, contraband, drugs. As an example those familiar with Bocachica may remember Luigi of the Napoli pizzeria. Well, not long ago he was caught at PC airport with coke and now is in prison in Higuey. I for one rather patronize, when feasible, Dominican places. We are in their country, we may as well contribute a little to it.
Yes, you are seeing some changes, but Sosua will remain Sosua.How might this (or should this) influence one's views of Sosua these days?
http://www.listindiario.com/la-republica/2015/3/12/359613/Interrogan16-estadounidenses-y-siete-dominicanos-por-prostituir-mujeres
I think that's the wrong read! It's not just them (they only provide the dineros) but folks who are working for them egged on and pushed forward by the US embassy, Interpol and other US, Canadian and European agencies linked to money laundering, drugs, trafficking in women etc. These other entities are not so much providing dineros but rather information and diplomatic pressure on a government with minimal clout, So it's a collaborative effort to change the face of Sosua. Laugh all you want.
They are not after the little guy or an individual monger but rather the collection of it all.
Money laundering and drugs are also involved.Let's agree that the individual monger is not being targeted in any way (except by those ever entrepreneurial putas, LOL).
What you say about the political climate may or may not be correct. The politicians, their friends in the various police departments, and their favorite business donors don't sit down with mongers in front of El Centro and discuss this stuff. LOL.
The point is, political intrigue is always present everywhere. It's inaccessible to the average monger. To the extent it affects our mongering habits is what is important to us.
And, as long as prostitution is encouraged in DR (they could make it illegal, if they really wanted to) and the cops are relatively friendly to mongers, we and the putas that serve us will be coming into Sosua in droves.
So, (unless you are thinking of investing in the DR,) don't worry, be happy!
Stop the nonsense.
Camaro just wrote an excellent report. And now you continue with "The sky is falling!"
The FACE of Sosua is always changing! And it has for years!
After the big crack down in December 2010, everyone thought Sosua was forever gone.
I watched Classicos closed and reopen. Latinos, across from Rumba, change owners twice, then closed. The opening of the D Latin and the closing of the D Latin. When Passions closed, it the the end for Sosua, but it was not to be. The "Cruise Ship" will sink Sosua! Never happened. All the bars had to cover their windows, but yet they close the main street. But now it is open again.
Yes, you are seeing some changes, but Sosua will remain Sosua.Sounds like you are yelling and being aggressive in print! Does not faze me one bit!
I am used to bombs going off while I sleep and other things in Colombia and the ME. And that does not faze me either!
I am actually sharing less than I know..... How's that?
Care to chime in Mr GOGO?
Sounds like you are yelling and being aggressive in print! Does not faze me one bit!
I am used to bombs going off while I sleep and other things in Colombia and the ME. And that does not faze me either!
I am actually sharing less than I know..... How's that?
Care to chime in Mr GOGO?Tomjacking gets me drunk every time I see him in Sosua, and I let him fuck my girls. I'm taking the fifth from here on out about changes.
Tomjacking gets me drunk every time I see him in Sosua, and I let him fuck my girls. I'm taking the fifth from here on out about changes.Jajaja. Ok!
Pero, fifth of what? Tequila, mamajuana? Or just your mama? .
Anyways, happy to be your counsel on the stand! .
Member #4432
03-17-15, 01:36
Yah I was thinking that too thanks for all the info. Does anyone know any tour guides out there that can show the ropes especially sine I am newbie don't want to get trapped in all kind of unnecessary drama LOL.
Sounds like you are yelling and being aggressive in print! Does not faze me one bit!
I am used to bombs going off while I sleep and other things in Colombia and the ME. And that does not faze me either!
I am actually sharing less than I know..... How's that?
Care to chime in Mr GOGO?In the last few years, if you listen to rumors, Sosua is changing from a sleezy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata, to a thriving tourist town with it's own Marina (half of Charamicos was actually depopulated and bulldozed flat by the Rio to make way for this).
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
Next it was to be a Cruise Ship day tour destination, wherin hordes of affluent cruise ship passengers would be ferried in buses to take advantage of the world class shopping to be found in the local Playera.
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
Then they were going to get rid of the sleaze, and with big foreign development money turn it into something like Monaco.
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
Then it was time to close down the raucious red light bars, close off the street, and make it a mini family theme park, with movie theatre for all.
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
(Just the way we like it. :))
In the last few years, if you listen to rumors, Sosua is changing from a sleezy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata, to a thriving tourist town with it's own Marina......
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
Then they were going to get rid of the sleaze, and with big foreign development money turn it into something like Monaco.
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
Then it was time to close down the raucious red light bars, close off the street, and make it a mini family theme park, with movie theatre for all.
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata.
(Just the way we like it. :))Again, wrong read! That's what I'd like it to be too!
However, sometimes if you look to walk towards the future by looking at the rear view mirror, and taking past lessons learned and always ONLY applying that data to project the future then.
One runs the risk of becoming a leader like the Pied Piper singing a merry tune and having his flock follow that tune, bodies marching straight ahead, but heads turned 90 degrees to the left or the right, and the eyes, looking at the rear and seeing the entire flock marching and even dancing along behind the Pied Piper, right over the cliff into the arms of. ?
But whatever. Please play your tune and March right along with your flock and someone will be happy to turn up the music and add to it even, as you March right off the cliff looking backwards!
It's just the nature of the brain and neural net connections and processing, and how as we get older, the brain wants to always take all incoming data and fit it neatly with all historical data stored in the brain and quickly produce a result that fits past data.
That's why new ideas and new approaches rarely ever emanate from those over 60. It's not anyone's fault, it's just the bioorganic neural net processor at work. As it approaches the faults inherent in old age and cells that are suboptimal as they approach the Hayflick limit and smaller and smaller telomeres that define our human longevity.
Nobody has escaped this, but it pays to pay attention to our own minds and ensure it is not farting in its old age!
SavePros321
03-17-15, 02:14
I find amusing the deference and slack people on this board are willing to give to ex pat owners. I have been living in DR for most of the last 7 years and visited frequently since the 80's and with one exception I have found them to treat their workers as despicable as Dominican bosses do but at least the latter do it to their own people. They may look and talk like you and you may feel at ease in their establishment but more often than not their prices are much higher than the locally owned and when talking to them they act in a very condescending if nor rude manner. Many are shady characters with checkered pasts and are involved in dubious activities as loan sharking, contraband, drugs. As an example those familiar with Bocachica may remember Luigi of the Napoli pizzeria. Well, not long ago he was caught at PC airport with coke and now is in prison in Higuey. I for one rather patronize, when feasible, Dominican places. We are in their country, we may as well contribute a little to it.I hear you. I wasn't giving them any slack though. I see what is happening as exactly how Oakie described it: They (the Dominicans) let a foreigner come in, set up shop, run his business for a while. Then, if it becomes successful, they find something from his past to get him arrested and booted out of the country and then confiscate his business and make it their own.
It's somewhat like that scene in the movie Blow (with Johnny Depp) where he deposits millions of dollars in a 3rd world country, ends up getting caught for dealing and goes to jail / hits rock bottom, comes back to said country many years later and learns that the government of the 3rd world country (now run by a dictator) has appropriated all of his funds.
Again, wrong read! That's what I'd like it to be too!
However, sometimes if you look to walk towards the future by looking at the rear view mirror, and taking past lessons learned and always ONLY applying that data to project the future then.
One runs the risk of becoming a leader like the Pied Piper singing a merry tune and having his flock follow that tune, bodies marching straight ahead, but heads turned 90 degrees to the left or the right, and the eyes, looking at the rear and seeing the entire flock marching and even dancing along behind the Pied Piper, right over the cliff into the arms of. ?
But whatever. Please play your tune and March right along with your flock and someone will be happy to turn up the music and add to it even, as you March right off the cliff looking backwards!
It's just the nature of the brain and neural net connections and processing, and how as we get older, the brain wants to always take all incoming data and fit it neatly with all historical data stored in the brain and quickly produce a result that fits past data.
That's why new ideas and new approaches rarely ever emanate from those over 60. It's not anyone's fault, it's just the bioorganic neural net processor at work. As it approaches the faults inherent in old age and cells that are suboptimal as they approach the Hayflick limit and smaller and smaller telomeres that define our human longevity.
Nobody has escaped this, but it pays to pay attention to our own minds and ensure it is not farting in its old age!Let me guess, you're under 60, right?
Obviously you're not old enough to remember when they told young kids, "Never trust anybody over 30!"
I guess 60 is the new 30.
So what's that info you're "hiding" from us? Along with all those New York Bros they're going to throw in jail. will they be taking old farts off the street too?
Enquiring minds want to know!
What's with your weird Pied Piper thing? I don't want to lead anybody anywhere, I'm actually advising them to stay put.:)
I hear you. I wasn't giving them any slack though. I see what is happening as exactly how Oakie described it: They (the Dominicans) let a foreigner come in, set up shop, run his business for a while. Then, if it becomes successful, they find something from his past to get him arrested and booted out of the country and then confiscate his business and make it their own.
It's somewhat like that scene in the movie Blow (with Johnny Depp) where he deposits millions of dollars in a 3rd world country, ends up getting caught for dealing and goes to jail / hits rock bottom, comes back to said country many years later and learns that the government of the 3rd world country (now run by a dictator) has appropriated all of his funds.Same thing happens everywhere, it's just the 3rd world countries are not as subtle. When the banks and investment groups do it, it's just good business, unless you're on the wrong side of the transaction.
Mr Enternational
03-17-15, 06:10
Don't anyone be surprised if there are raids by the policia at Rumbas. Make all mongers there produce passports, spread the hands and legs, arrest them and throw them in jail and enter records in passport data base for airport immigration. Gringo mongers are going to be harassed again and again in Sosua. That is the new game plan!
They are going to shut down Rumbas too soon or arrest the owner, deport him on any pretext or harass the clientele there.
Yeah, it's BS, gringo mongers and businesses that primarily cater to them in Sosua will have no rights and the Dominicans will take over flashpoint businesses.
This is all being done for the benefit of the real estate developers in Sosua who are primarily Italian and some Russian and German.Surely you are joking. So you are saying that the police is going to raid a corner bar? If you are a foreigner and you happen to be drinking at said bar then you will be arrested (under what pretense might I ask) and put into an immigration data base? Hell, we are alredy in the immigration data base. And what is immigration supposed to say when the person arrives: You must be going up to Sosua again? I see you were arrested for drinking in a bar last time. Are you writing this as you are deaming it? Are they going to give everyone the mark of the beast when they check them into the cells as well?
Real Estate developers in Sosua? Since I have been going to Sosua I have seen 1 project actually being built. And that was last month across from Casa Cayena. But don't hold your breath because that shit is not completed yet. Everyone that knows anything about this place knows that they are notorious for starting construction and stopping in the middle only to let weeds and vegetation take over the place. Take a drive down the coast and see how many abandonded big dreams there are.
And as far as the developers being Italian and Russian. Go on with that BS. First of all the Rubble is in the shitter. Second of all who the hell are they going to market it to? In Thailand the Russians were the largest percentage of tourists behind the Chinese. But guess what. The last few months the price of oil has fallen and the Rubble along with it. You can barely find a Russian around this place. Most of them have had to cancel their vacations because their money is no longer worth a shit. It now costs them double to buy the same thing that they could 6 months ago. And you see the Euro is right behind that mf. So unless these European investors already had their funds in US dollars then these projects are going to cost them much more than they had anticipated.
Don't even get me started on the shitty DR infrastructure. On this board people are battling over Casa Cayena, New Garden, and Europa as if those are 5 star hotels. They may not be good, but they are the best that Sosua can muster up.
Oakie said it best: Years of rumors, yet still a sleazy red light district.
Mr Enternational
03-17-15, 11:38
Translated to English.
PUERTO PLATA, Dominican Republic. - The Court of Permanent Care of the province of Puerto Plata issued a year of detention to seven Dominicans accused of trafficking and sexual exploitation including minors. The seven Dominicans who was known coercive measures are Franklin Sánchez García, Manuel Emilio Martinez, Rolfi Ventura, Luis Emilio Castillo, Rubéand Darío Sosa and women Idalia Soriano Castro Ferreira and Anibelca Peńa. Be Several of the defendants said they are innocent and say they were accelerated by 16 foreign guests to a birthday. Of the 23 people arrested only Dominicans became known far, MP representatives reported that foreigners will be deported to their country of origin to be processed, which drew attention to the other defendants. According to Police Report were rescued 29 women including several minors, which reportedly will be moved to CONANI of Jarabacoa. A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, because of engaging in illicit trafficking for prostitution. During a raid on the El Choco town of Sosua, Puerto Plata, were demure 29 women, including minors. Detainees will be made available to justice. In an operation led by tax attorneys, Osvaldo Bonilla Hiraldo and Kelmi Duncan, accompanied by members of the National attached to the Central Police Criminal Intelligence Directorate, the Embassy of the United States of America. Besides agents from the headquarters of Sosúa. Of the total arrested estadounideneses 15 are men and one woman. Seven other arrested are Dominicans.
Thanks for the updated news, Mr. E, it gives at least some idea of what went on.
Two weeks ago, in south Florida, 15 people were arrested for [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) and 6 victims were rescued. Two others avoided capture. In recent years the US has been making efforts to battle [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), there have been several major busts, including the recent one in Florida.
Consider it a possibility that the Americans arrested in Sosua were in some way implicated, through intel gathered during an earlier arrest. A little bit of surveillance, someone's planning a big birthday party, DHS or the FBI coordinates with DR law enforcement, party's over.
Of course this is just random speculation on my part, I don't have any mysterious outside sources.
As for the arrest of Rick from Rocky's, it could be related to the other arrested business owners, call it a DR Leveraged buy out, but I don't grasp how it could be related to the [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) arrests.
Oakie said it best: Years of rumors, yet still a sleazy red light district.A sleazy red light district!
I'm offended and in tears that someone would actually characterize Sosua this way.
Member #4432
03-17-15, 15:15
Does anybody know any good tour guides out in Sosua that you can recommend me since it my first time was trying to see if there is anyone out there that can show me the ropes. I would greatly appreciate it thanks.
A sleazy red light district!
I'm offended and in tears that someone would actually characterize Sosua this way.Would "A sleazy red light district with bachata" be better?
Does anybody know any good tour guides out in Sosua that you can recommend me since it my first time was trying to see if there is anyone out there that can show me the ropes. I would greatly appreciate it thanks.When are you going? I will be there first week of April.
Tempoecorto
03-17-15, 18:13
It stayed a cheap sleazy red light district on the edge of Puerto Plata. (Just the way we like it. :))I disagree with the sleazy bit. After all what does that make the patrons, especially in this forum, to be? LOL.
I am pleased that there is an island close to our shores, that gives a old / older man a renewed opportunity to remember what it was like in his twenties. I am grateful instead of bad-mouthing, even if I am not interested in dipping into Sosua pool.
SavePros321
03-17-15, 18:23
Does anybody know any good tour guides out in Sosua that you can recommend me since it my first time was trying to see if there is anyone out there that can show me the ropes. I would greatly appreciate it thanks.Your tour guide will be your fellow mongers you meet there on the ground in Sosua. Just talk to anyone at your hotel or at any bar, strike up a friendly conversation and ask them to show you the ropes. Buy them a beer if you are feeling liberal.
Sosua is Pay for Play on training wheels. You can't walk ten feet without tripping over some pussy.
BUT the last thing you want or need to be looking for is some local Dominicano or Haitian tout as a "tour guide. " They will be in your pockets like you wouldn't belive. There is no need for "tour guides" in Sosua.
And you can find all the information you could ever need and want right here on this forum (going rate for chicas, where to stay, etc.). You need to put in the work of taking time to read. Start with Camaro's recent trip report, for instance.
If you start asking very obvious questions that have been answered here a million times, then that will tell us that you did not take the time to read and do your research. So don't be surprised if you ask a question that has been answered before and no one responds to your post.
Your tour guide will be your fellow mongers you meet there on the ground in Sosua. Just talk to anyone at your hotel or at any bar, strike up a friendly conversation and ask them to show you the ropes. Buy them a beer if you are feeling liberal.
I am not sure that this would work as easily as you think. It MIGHT work, but people in Sosua don't necessarily want to tell strangers that they are there for the pussy, and in fact they may not be there for the pussy, or it may be very peripheral to their interests. Also even if guys are mongers, they may have widely different attitudes to each other in terms of how to go about the business of getting a sex partner for pay. Also the person who becomes your guide may already have a "reputation" with the chicas that might affect you if you are associted with him.
I agree about not getting a Dominican or Haitian guide. No, don't do that.
Would "A sleazy red light district with bachata" be better?I don't think Sosua is sleazy, especially compared to red light districts in major cities around the world. You don't find pornography shops, sex toy shops, strip clubs, and sex shows like in Amsterdam.
It is a pleasant resort and retirement town with a handful of chica bars over a block or two that come alive at night. It is quite possible to live in Sosua and never go anywhere near the prostitution bars during their business hours.
Manizales911
03-17-15, 21:21
I don't think Sosua is sleazy, especially compared to red light districts in major cities around the world. You don't find pornography shops, sex toy shops, strip clubs, and sex shows like in Amsterdam.
It is a pleasant resort and retirement town with a handful of chica bars over a block or two that come alive at night. It is quite possible to live in Sosua and never go anywhere near the prostitution bars during their business hours.I love Sosua but that's putting lipstick on a pig. Yes, it is POSSIBLE to stay away from the prostitution bars but staying away from prostitution itself would be impossible and you would be limiting your choices of restaurants etc. Same with the beach, I enjoy Sosua beach but you will see prostitutes every day there.
I know E gave an update here is one more:
Sosua, Dominican Republic. - The US Embassy on Tuesday said 29 sex trafficking victims, including 20 minors ages 14 to 17 were rescued in Sosua, after an investigation and joint operation between local and US agencies.
It said the??[CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) victims were sent to the facility of the National Children Council (CONANI), which collaborated in the case.
In a statement the US Embassy said agents of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE / HSI), the National Police, the Justice Ministry's Anti-trafficking Unit and the Puerto Plata Office of the Prosecutor took part in the operation.
As part of the investigation seven Dominican citizens were arrested, two women and five men, who were sent to one year in prison to await trial.
The suspected traffickers transported the victims to what these believed was a "sex party" and also coordinated the sexual services by the minors for the adults who participated in the alleged party.
US Ambassador James W. Brewster congratulated the Dominican government and the US security agencies for their commitment to eradicate sexual exploitation and thanked them for cooperating in this case. "It's inconceivable that people, including children, are being sold for sex in the 21st century. The Government of the United States continues to work with our partners both domestically and abroad to eliminate this evil practice. ".
The detainees were identified as Rubéand Darío Sosa, Luis Manuel Martínez Castillo, Franklin Sánchez García, Rolfi Ismael Ventura, Manuel Emilio Martinez, Idalia Luciano and Aniberca Castro.
The Puerto Plata Office of the Prosecutor is in charge of the case against the Dominican citizens whom, if convicted, could face up to 15 years in prison.
SavePros321
03-18-15, 01:26
The suspected traffickers transported the victims to what these believed was a "sex party" and also coordinated the sexual services by the minors for the adults who participated in the alleged party.
US Ambassador James W. Brewster congratulated the Dominican government and the US security agencies for their commitment to eradicate sexual exploitation and thanked them for cooperating in this case. "It's inconceivable that people, including children, are being sold for sex in the 21st century. The Government of the United States continues to work with our partners both domestically and abroad to eliminate this evil practice. ".
The biggest thing that sticks out in this case (aside from the obvious minors involved) is that pimping was going on. So this sounds exactly about right. No one is concerned if a man and a woman exchange pesos for sex. The problem arises when third parties (aka "touts", chulos") get involved in the mix.
Let that be a warning to all you guys that like to rent Villas and then have one of the local touts procure a gang of chicas for you and pay him a fee for his services. Coming back to the States with something that says you were mixed up with sex trafficking won't look too good on your employment resume; not even just for a job scrubbing toilets at Walmart.
Don't anyone be surprised if there are raids by the policia at Rumbas. Make all mongers there produce passports, spread the hands and legs, arrest them and throw them in jail and enter records in passport data base for airport immigration. Gringo mongers are going to be harassed again and again in Sosua. That is the new game plan!
They are going to shut down Rumbas too soon or arrest the owner, deport him on any pretext or harass the clientele there.
Yeah, it's BS, gringo mongers and businesses that primarily cater to them in Sosua will have no rights and the Dominicans will take over flashpoint businesses.
This is all being done for the benefit of the real estate developers in Sosua who are primarily Italian and some Russian and German.
It sucks and I am pissed too. Don't shoot the messenger please. I only started visiting in the last 18 months and do like it for the conveniences that I have described in an earlier post. We guys need to keep a low profile and not be publicly exposing the monger face of Sosua. That's what the real estate developers find is their sales hurdle because mongers generally are not at all a target customer for buying real estate in Sosua.
Yeah this is all about business and major dineros. Anyone in the way will get arrested for trumped up reasons. Happening in Costambar as well.While you claim all this, dozens of women are lining up in Rumba's and along Pedro Clisante. Dozens of guys are going to get laid tonight, the money will be exchanged and pleasure will be had, some people will have a great time, while others will go "meh". And tomorrow this will repeat itself. Whether at Rumba's, Classico's, a smaller bar, a side street, or Sosua Beach.
Life is too short to worry your claims of things that can possibly happen. Actually, you don't even say it's a possibility. You say it's the game plan and it is going to happen! I am not sure what's your deal with trying to scare people away, but if you are going to do it at least be truthful about some things and not say that people are going to be arrested soon and all their info is going to be entered into the immigration database. As if that isn't already there (as Mr. E said). When you start mentioning that something is going to happen to a visitors passport and they are going to be in trouble, you are trying to invoke fear and indicate that you don't even want them to be traveling to Sosua. What's your end game? Are you receiving something for this. Money?. A pat on the back?. A boost in confidence? The feeling of being the guy that warned people about something which happens in all cities (being arrested for doing something illegal), are you looking to save someone. And then nothing happens? People get arrested all the time. Get over it. Your fear mongering is rather annoying.
From what I've read, you seem more angry that there is prostitution in Sosua and guys are enjoying themselves. If you enjoy Sosua and have never had a problem, why are you trying to make this all out effort to warn people about things you say are "the new game plan"? Your objectives in all this are baffling. Can I suggest you post somewhere else? This board sees a lot of bickering between a few members, we don't need baseless fear mongering because one day foreigners being arrested for participating in something illegal and it decided to hit the news. Again, life is too short.
While you claim all this, dozens of women are lining up in Rumba's and along Pedro Clisante. Dozens of guys are going to get laid tonight, the money will be exchanged and pleasure will be had, some people will have a great time, while others will go "meh". And tomorrow this will repeat itself. Whether at Rumba's, Classico's, a smaller bar, a side street, or Sosua Beach.
Life is too short to worry your claims of things that can possibly happen. Actually, you don't even say it's a possibility. You say it's the game plan and it is going to happen! I am not sure what's your deal with trying to scare people away, but if you are going to do it at least be truthful about some things and not say that people are going to be arrested soon and all their info is going to be entered into the immigration database. As if that isn't already there (as Mr. E said). When you start mentioning that something is going to happen to a visitors passport and they are going to be in trouble, you are trying to invoke fear and indicate that you don't even want them to be traveling to Sosua. What's your end game? Are you receiving something for this. Money?. A pat on the back?. A boost in confidence? The feeling of being the guy that warned people about something which happens in all cities (being arrested for doing something illegal), are you looking to save someone. And then nothing happens? People get arrested all the time. Get over it. Your fear mongering is rather annoying.
From what I've read, you seem more angry that there is prostitution in Sosua and guys are enjoying themselves. If you enjoy Sosua and have never had a problem, why are you trying to make this all out effort to warn people about things you say are "the new game plan"? Your objectives in all this are baffling. Can I suggest you post somewhere else? This board sees a lot of bickering between a few members, we don't need baseless fear mongering because one day foreigners being arrested for participating in something illegal and it decided to hit the news. Again, life is too short.Well put.
I think someone needs to don a thinking cap.
No one is concerned if a man and a woman exchange pesos for sex. The problem arises when third parties (aka "touts", chulos") get involved in the mix.
Some government officials have expressed a desire to prosecute Johns but the DR has not acted effectively on this matter to date. Below is an example:
http://eltiempo.com.ve/mundo/suceso/un-grupo-de-16-estadounidenses-y-siete-dominicanos-fueron-detenidos-por-su-presunta-vinculacion-con-el-trafico-de-mujeres-para-prostituirlas-informo-el-jueves-la-policia-dominicana/174603
"En 2013, el procurador general, Francisco Domnguez, advirtió que los clientes de las prostitutas tambien seran procesados por explotacion sexual."
Mr Enternational
03-18-15, 05:31
I disagree with the sleazy bit. After all what does that make the patrons, especially in this forum, to be? LOL.
I am grateful instead of bad-mouthing, even if I am not interested in dipping into Sosua pool.Sleazy was not meant in a negative connotation or to bad mouth; it was meant more like monger-favorable. After all, the word sleazy is generally associated with hookers and we all know that Sosua has plenty of them.
Sleazy was not meant in a negative connotation or to bad mouth; it was meant more like monger-favorable. After all, the word sleazy is generally associated with hookers and we all know that Sosua has plenty of them.Thanks Mr E.
I used the term humorously to describe my own "sleazy" activities there. I'm a john who pays for hookers, and enjoys the hobby.
Not meant to cast aspersions on those who only go for the sea air, the food, or the shopping. :)
Thanks Mr E.
I used the term humorously to describe my own "sleazy" activities there. I'm a john who pays for hookers, and enjoys the hobby.
Not meant to cast aspersions on those who only go for the sea air, the food, or the shopping. :)I accept your apology for slandering my beloved Sosua.
As far as shopping goes, I only shop for hookers there!
I love Sosua but that's putting lipstick on a pig. Yes, it is POSSIBLE to stay away from the prostitution bars but staying away from prostitution itself would be impossible and you would be limiting your choices of restaurants etc. Same with the beach, I enjoy Sosua beach but you will see prostitutes every day there.If you haven't been there try Alicia beach at the end of Calle Rosen just down the hill from Casa Cayena. A beautiful beach, clean, no vendors, and I have never seen any hookers there prowling the beach.
Marc Anthony
03-20-15, 00:44
I don't think Sosua is sleazy, especially compared to red light districts in major cities around the world. You don't find pornography shops, sex toy shops, strip clubs, and sex shows like in Amsterdam.
It is a pleasant resort and retirement town with a handful of chica bars over a block or two that come alive at night. It is quite possible to live in Sosua and never go anywhere near the prostitution bars during their business hours.There's an article in Sosua News quoting the DR Tourism minister Garcia at a conference in Berlin as saying: "Sosua must undergo a moral rehabilitation and return to a family resort".
I think your characterization of the town is spot on, so the meaning of "moral rehabilitation" is pretty simple. They just have to close down a few of the big clubs that pull in hundred's of chicas to few blocks of Pedro Clisante at night. That plus a few raids and symbolic enforcement and they can declare victory. It's more a matter of reputation and discretion. Sosua would be more like Caberete for an older crowd. Caberete has plenty of p4 p chicas but the scene isn't as obvious.
I'm not as confident as Haven that this will roll the way developers want, but I think he's correct in pointing out that there are people with some influence who want it.
As things stand today the Sosua economy is very dependent on monger dpllars. Sure there are those who would love to see a different Sosua but are you willing to kill the baby to save it. Mongers are carrying the economy today. We are critical to hotels and restaurants directly and indirectly. We draw the ladies who also spend and contribute to the economy. Who has the balls to kill the bird in hand. I will say this business men in the DR are not the sharpest guys in the game. The many incomplete buildings you see all over the country. Many things get started and never finished. Sosua has found its niche. It can not compete with Caberreti or Punta Cuna for a classy place to go. Both places have loyal cliental.
There's an article in Sosua News quoting the DR Tourism minister Garcia at a conference in Berlin as saying: "Sosua must undergo a moral rehabilitation and return to a family resort".
I think your characterization of the town is spot on, so the meaning of "moral rehabilitation" is pretty simple. They just have to close down a few of the big clubs that pull in hundred's of chicas to few blocks of Pedro Clisante at night. That plus a few raids and symbolic enforcement and they can declare victory. It's more a matter of reputation and discretion. Sosua would be more like Caberete for an older crowd. Caberete has plenty of p4 p chicas but the scene isn't as obvious.
I'm not as confident as Haven that this will roll the way developers want, but I think he's correct in pointing out that there are people with some influence who want it.
Marc Anthony
03-20-15, 05:55
As things stand today the Sosua economy is very dependent on monger dpllars. Sure there are those who would love to see a different Sosua but are you willing to kill the baby to save it. Mongers are carrying the economy today. We are critical to hotels and restaurants directly and indirectly. We draw the ladies who also spend and contribute to the economy. Who has the balls to kill the bird in hand. I will say this business men in the DR are not the sharpest guys in the game. The many incomplete buildings you see all over the country. Many things get started and never finished. Sosua has found its niche. It can not compete with Caberreti or Punta Cuna for a classy place to go. Both places have loyal cliental.I suspect the people who are interested in this are a small group who want to build a major AI / condos / marina on the beach. They don't really care whether a few monger hotels or restaurants go out of business. For that matter they really don't care anymore than typical business folk what happens to anybody in the area. A mix of rich Dominicans who own land and have government and contracting connections, European big biz and narco cash. Even in Sosua though mongering is not an important part of the economy from the POV of big money. It's important to the little businesses that mongers come in contact with but as a fraction of the RD's tourist industry and resort real estate market it's negligible. Even if it was a bigger proportion it wouldn't matter to interests that don't directly benefit from it. To them it's just an embarrassment. It's not that these guys are such fine moral examples. A lot of the investment likely flows from narcotrafficantes.
OTOH it's not like well placed interests don't profit from things as they are as you say and the connected guys who make money from the status quo will push back.
My point was mostly that either way it's just about the little cluster of clubs on Pedro Clisante and the optics.
We got 2 different kinds of cops working the area 1st kind is the ones we been looking at for awhile now saying that dick head never gets any pussy and the 2nd is the one who goes home and gives his wife a disease because he got to close to the case he has been working on.
Cops are a necessary evil.
Right now seems to be hot times and when it gets this hot everyone is at risk for some kind of shit to happen in a bad way. Anyone that has spent much time in Sosua has had to look at some hombre and said to himself what the fuck was that all about.
Who knows who the bad guys are because in a recent news post they said cops are involved in 90 percent. That means that any American cop really has to watch his ass in the DR.
It never stops fellas. Now they are saying no Americans were detained in the raid on the villa outside of Sosua. Hmm!
Also Armondo the Classicos owner was arrested again, wasn't he deported? We can't seem to get a straight story out of the DR nowadays.
Parkinsons
03-20-15, 18:19
"Johnston was charged last April with fraud over $5,000, theft over $5,000 and laundering the proceeds of crime.
The alleged incidents occurred in Saskatchewan between October 2006 and September 2007, and RCMP began investigating the case in January 2013. ".
http://regina.ctvnews.ca/mobile/regina-man-arrested-in-dominican-republic-on-fraud-theft-charges-1.2288435
http://www.leaderpost.com/touch/story.html?id=10905047
I suspect the people who are interested in this are a small group who want to build a major AI / condos / marina on the beach. They don't really care whether a few monger hotels or restaurants go out of business. For that matter they really don't care anymore than typical business folk what happens to anybody in the area. A mix of rich Dominicans who own land and have government and contracting connections, European big biz and narco cash. Even in Sosua though mongering is not an important part of the economy from the POV of big money. It's important to the little businesses that mongers come in contact with but as a fraction of the RD's tourist industry and resort real estate market it's negligible. Even if it was a bigger proportion it wouldn't matter to interests that don't directly benefit from it. To them it's just an embarrassment. It's not that these guys are such fine moral examples. A lot of the investment likely flows from narcotrafficantes.
OTOH it's not like well placed interests don't profit from things as they are as you say and the connected guys who make money from the status quo will push back.
My point was mostly that either way it's just about the little cluster of clubs on Pedro Clisante and the optics.Once Cuba opens up 100% from the Sanctions / embargo imposed by the US, DR will have a real hard time competing. Everybody is going to be going to Cuba to fuck the new booties there. Lets not forget it is closer and therefore cheaper / faster to arrive to.
"Johnston was charged last April with fraud over $5,000, theft over $5,000 and laundering the proceeds of crime.
The alleged incidents occurred in Saskatchewan between October 2006 and September 2007, and RCMP began investigating the case in January 2013. ".
http://regina.ctvnews.ca/mobile/regina-man-arrested-in-dominican-republic-on-fraud-theft-charges-1.2288435
http://www.leaderpost.com/touch/story.html?id=10905047Impeccable timing.
""This is an example of how just one piece of information can bring charges in a file that goes back many years," RCMP Insp. Trudy Bangloy said in a media release. ".
Like I said, like shooting ducks!
I think it will take some time to build the infrastructure to support a high level of tourism. I have read the Cuba forum and the place has challenges. How the government deals with mongers is not a settled issue. Prostitution is not totally legal.
Once Cuba opens up 100% from the Sanctions / embargo imposed by the US, DR will have a real hard time competing. Everybody is going to be going to Cuba to fuck the new booties there. Lets not forget it is closer and therefore cheaper / faster to arrive to.
Manizales911
03-21-15, 14:43
Impeccable timing.
""This is an example of how just one piece of information can bring charges in a file that goes back many years," RCMP Insp. Trudy Bangloy said in a media release. ".
Like I said, like shooting ducks!It has been reported on several Canadian news outlets that he is alleged to have fucked a co-op out of $880,000. ,for his sake I hope the charges are unfounded but if he in fact did it then I don't feel bad for the guy at all.
I can not be mad at him. He took a shot at life changing money maybe. Either way a million bucks is life changing money. Rick had a long and good relationship to the guys at this board. He went out of his way help and support guys like us. He was consistent in his support. Who knows what his motivation was.
I think it will take some time to build the infrastructure to support a high level of tourism. I have read the Cuba forum and the place has challenges. How the government deals with mongers is not a settled issue. Prostitution is not totally legal.Cuba already has plenty of hotels, airports for large jets, and services the existing demand for package holidays from Canada, Europe, Russia et. It is only Americans who are not allowed to travel there.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g147270-Cuba-Hotels.html
Once Cuba opens up 100% from the Sanctions / embargo imposed by the US, DR will have a real hard time competing. Everybody is going to be going to Cuba to fuck the new booties there. Lets not forget it is closer and therefore cheaper / faster to arrive to.I am guessing that you do not work in the travel industry.
Thanks Mr E.
I used the term humorously to describe my own "sleazy" activities there. I'm a john who pays for hookers, and enjoys the hobby.
Not meant to cast aspersions on those who only go for the sea air, the food, or the shopping. :)Every discussion ends up ultimately being about semantics (the meaning of words). Sleazy has a slightly different meaning when it is applied to a location than to a person, and of course the most common used of the word is discussing the sleaze factor in politics. Regarding a place it tends to mean somewhere that is run-down, seedy, and hosting nefarious activities. So the opposite of "corporate chic", fashionable, or family friendly.
Sleazy has a slightly different meaning when it is applied to a location than to a personI think Frannie is sleazy.:)
Every discussion ends up ultimately being about semantics. Nonsense, Patts is sleazy, Soi Cowboy is sleazy, Nana is sleazy, Juarez is sleazy, San Nich is sleazy, Surabaya is sleazy. And "Sosewer" is sleazy. If not then what place is?
And if one has any doubt then they have been mongering too long and have lost touch and need to try and date "normal" women for a while. If possible.
SavePros321
03-23-15, 01:40
And if one has any doubt then they have been mongering too long and have lost touch and need to try and date "normal" women for a while. If possible.Rj-asss is a troll from the Opinions > American Women forum who spends much of his time trying to convince guys on a forum about P4P that we should stay within the borders of Sex Prison and be happy that an American Woman would allow us to even be in the same room with them and spend money on multiple dates trying to get into their pants.
He is best handled the same way you would a mentally retarded person who tries to walk up and talk you in public; just smile while nodding your head as you side step them and go about your way.
Nonsense, Patts is sleazy, Soi Cowboy is sleazy, Nana is sleazy, Juarez is sleazy, San Nich is sleazy, Surabaya is sleazy. And "Sosewer" is sleazy. If not then what place is?
And if one has any doubt then they have been mongering too long and have lost touch and need to try and date "normal" women for a while. If possible.What's considered "sleazy" to one person, might not be considered sleazy to another. You mention Soi Cowboy and Nana, those are red light districts in the massive city of Bangkok. I don't think you can compare Sosua to Bangkok, and the entire town of Sosua is not a red light district. If you look at it from the point of view of a local, it's just every day life. Whether you live in Pattaya, Bangkok, Amsterdam, or Sosua. You might know the areas where prostitution is very visible, but it just becomes a part of you life.
If you live in the United States where prostitution is illegal (with the exception of a few counties in Nevada) and travel to a place like Sosua and are walking around Pedro Clisante in the late afternoon and evening hours, of course you might consider it sleazy. It's not the norm for you, it's not something that blends into your daily life. Same thing if you went to Pattaya and decided to venture out to Walking Street. However, if you are a local, have a job and a daily routine. You tend to ignore these things because it's just a part of your life.
Also, no place is not "sleazy". Dishonest and immoral acts occur anywhere, whether in a red light district, a back alley in a ghetto part of a city, or in the home of any ordinary person. If you're limiting "sleazy" to just prostitution, you're an idiot.
Also, no place is not "sleazy". Dishonest and immoral acts occur anywhere, whether in a red light district, a back alley in a ghetto part of a city, or in the home of any ordinary person. If you're limiting "sleazy" to just prostitution, you're an idiot.Please don't feed the trolls.
My non pro chica s all seem to be way more submissive then any women I have. Had in my country. They will lay in the bed and let you do what ever I want. I love this experience.
What's considered "sleazy" to one person, might not be considered sleazy to another. Absolutely, we all have our own standards. But some things are universal, I believe.
You mention Soi Cowboy and Nana, those are red light districts in the massive city of Bangkok. I don't think you can compare Sosua to Bangkok, and the entire town of Sosua is not a red light district. Right, completely different personalities however, sex for sale everywhere makes them very similar. That's the sleaze factor, not that they're both third world (sorry, "developing" And it's a small percentage of workers in Sosua who are not selling it. Every Dominican knows what Sosua is there for. Ever meet an educated girl or one from a middle class family hanging in Sosua?
If you look at it from the point of view of a local, it's just every day life. Whether you live in Pattaya, Bangkok, Amsterdam, or Sosua. You might know the areas where prostitution is very visible, but it just becomes a part of you life. Of course, everyone does what they have to get by and if that's your only option then it becomes your life but that doesn't make it less sleazy. Just necessary.
And Amsterdam's not sleazy at all. No street walkers at all, no money changers, etc. Either is Vegas for that matter and there's a hell of a lot of sex going on there. Just ask any taxi driver.
If you live in the United States where prostitution is illegal …of course you might consider it sleazy. Might? If Sosua's not "definitely" sleazy then name a few places that "definitely" are.
Also, no place is not "sleazy". Nope, it's the people that make it sleazy. Plenty of places are working class or low income or even hardscrabble. People working everyday, taking some pride in what they have, etc. Nothing wrong with that.
Now, put a few washing machines and old cars, tires, etc on the front lawn and it becomes sleazy even without the sex. Hey, if you can approach almost any woman on the street and begin discussing paying for sex without getting slapped or arrested, it might be a sleaze indicator, no?
Hey, I like sleaze as much as anyone here, I'm just not fooling myself.
Charles Pooter
03-23-15, 19:40
My non pro chica s all seem to be way more submissive then any women I have. Had in my country. They will lay in the bed and let you do what ever I want. I love this experience.On that topic, I read this on the Yahool newsfeed today. An American Christian wife says it is her duty to be "submissive" and goes on "If your husband simply wants to try a new position or add some variety, I urge you to not instantly say 'no' without some legitimate discussion and prayer".
I am sure we all agree that this principled stance should not be restricted to marital sex and urge OldKool to indulge in discussion and prayer with each puta before attempting a new position or anything "varied". And lengthy discussion and prayer before anal sex or CIM.
Marc Anthony
03-23-15, 20:47
On that topic, I read this on the Yahool newsfeed today. An American Christian wife says it is her duty to be "submissive" and goes on "If your husband simply wants to try a new position or add some variety, I urge you to not instantly say 'no' without some legitimate discussion and prayer".
I am sure we all agree that this principled stance should not be restricted to marital sex and urge OldKool to indulge in discussion and prayer with each puta before attempting a new position or anything "varied". And lengthy discussion and prayer before anal sex or CIM.Having a puta in a kneeling position does suit each of these activities.
Working Travlr
03-23-15, 21:36
I would have to say any woman kneeling at your feet in any situation and in any country is absolutely an acceptable activity.
I am sure we all agree that this principled stance should not be restricted to marital sex and urge OldKool to indulge in discussion and prayer with each puta before attempting a new position or anything "varied". And lengthy discussion and prayer before anal sex or CIM. We call that standard bartering procedure in Sosua. :)
I would have to say any woman kneeling at your feet in any situation and in any country is absolutely an acceptable activity.Indeed. Better yet if leaning back at a comfortable 45 degrees with a stogie in one hand and a beer in the other. Maybe a camera nearby.
Santo Domingo. - Justice minister Francisco Dominguez on Monday said holdups, robberies, drug and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) and illegal liens on properties are crimes that harm tourism.
His statement comes two weeks after two groups of children and adolescents were rescued from brothers where they worked as prostitutes and their own parents had sold them to tourists in the town of Sosua, Puerto Plata.
Dominquez said the authorities found eight, 13 and 14 year-old girls at a party, while in another, there were seven more, ages 15,16 and 18.
He said he has declared war on certain tourists who go to Sosua only for prostitutes and minors, adding Haitian prostitutes are prevalent in the north region, "damaging the possibility of family tourism in some beaches. ".
SavePros321
03-24-15, 15:21
He said he has declared war on certain tourists who go to Sosua only for prostitutes and minors, adding Haitian prostitutes are prevalent in the north region, "damaging the possibility of family tourism in some beaches. ".Uh oohh...
So I guess they are going to start profiling hard. They'll have a paddy wagon waiting for you as soon as you exit the airplane at POP, lol.
Those developers want Sosua like nobody's business.
Santo Domingo. - Justice minister Francisco Dominguez on Monday said holdups, robberies, drug and and illegal liens on properties are crimes that harm tourism.
His statement comes two weeks after two groups of children and adolescents were rescued from brothers where they worked as prostitutes and their own parents had sold them to tourists in the town of Sosua, Puerto Plata.
Dominquez said the authorities found eight, 13 and 14 year-old girls at a party, while in another, there were seven more, ages 15,16 and 18.
He said he has declared war on certain tourists who go to Sosua only for prostitutes and minors, adding Haitian prostitutes are prevalent in the north region, "damaging the possibility of family tourism in some beaches. He should instead declare war on corruption so that more money could be allocated to providing opportunities for young women so they would not seek employment by way of prostitution.
Mongerer69
03-24-15, 17:15
Just when you thought it couldn't get much worse. I'm coming next month with my brother lovers. Is the sky really falling?
Guys going for way [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls is an aberration. I find it hard to believe. It does not state that they had sex with the children but they were at the party. Much of this sounds trumped up but who knows.
He should instead declare war on corruption so that more money could be allocated to providing opportunities for young women so they would not seek employment by way of prostitution.
Working Travlr
03-24-15, 19:09
Indeed. Better yet if leaning back at a comfortable 45 degrees with a stogie in one hand and a beer in the other. Maybe a camera nearby.There are plenty of positions they could take and things to do. This is probably topic for some other forum or PM though. LOL.
I can't wait to be in SD. Hopefully end of May beginning of June. I don't know if I'll be able to make it to Sosua.
Wilfried is booked for my dates and New gardens website has been under construction for days. Anyone know what is going on at New gardens?
Just when you thought it couldn't get much worse. I'm coming next month with my brother lovers. Is the sky really falling?I am also going there next month and I wish someone would keep tabs on what's actually happening. Not just threats from authorities although they sound threatening.
Member #2666
03-24-15, 22:47
I'm in Sosua now have been for a week but have had no luck finding a squirter. Anybody with a phone number or contact information information would be greatly appreciated. Everything else here is a hundred percent lots of people lot of fun lots of girls excellent time.
Member #2666
03-24-15, 22:53
To continue on the original thread. It wouldn't bother me if the first place to close would be Rancho Tipico. It's quite clear he doesn't like Americans and for that reason I don't like him.
Charles Pooter
03-25-15, 01:02
It wouldn't bother me if the first place to close would be Rancho Tipico. It's quite clear he doesn't like Americans and for that reason I don't like him.The guy has serious issues and you are entitled to ignore him, but to say he doesn't like Americans is nonsense. He has a regular clientele of Americans for whom Rancho Tipico is their main meeting place. I think it fair to say even they go there in spite of him rather than because of him.
I'm in Sosua now have been for a week but have had no luck finding a squirter. Anybody with a phone number or contact information information would be greatly appreciated. Everything else here is a hundred percent lots of people lot of fun lots of girls excellent time.Aren't they pretty rare? Porn makes it seem like every other woman can squirt but to find one in Sosua would be like finding a truly bi chica for a happy hour.
I'm in Sosua now have been for a week but have had no luck finding a squirter. Anybody with a phone number or contact information information would be greatly appreciated. Everything else here is a hundred percent lots of people lot of fun lots of girls excellent time.Just look for an older chica, 40 to 50 years old. The squirting is caused by problems with the urethra, that are more common with older women.
Mr Enternational
03-25-15, 04:55
Aren't they pretty rare? Porn makes it seem like every other woman can squirt but to find one in Sosua would be like finding a truly bi chica for a happy hour.I would say they are extremely rare. After well over 1000 women on 6 continents here is my breakdown:
N. America: USA - 5 non-pros (Mexican in Georgia, Mexican in California, Black in Virginia, Black in California, White in Alabama).
S. America: Peru - 1 non-pro, Colombia - 1 pro (at Conejitos in Medellin. Fucked her in January).
Europe: 0.
Africa: 0.
Australia: 0.
Asia: Thailand - 1 non-pro, 1 pro.
I know of 2 other pro chicks (1 Thailand (friend who Sushilover fucked the other day. See his report in the Pattaya thread), 1 Brazil (Ingrid who worked at Luomo in Rio)) but have never fucked them.
Stay away from those porno movies thinking they are real life. Nobody is supposed to be fucking 45 minutes straight along with all the other bullshit they get you to believe is normal.
Very sweet gave me all I wanted. This lady is a friend of my first DR chica. She came to Sosua with my old flame who I did on my first night. She and I had friended each other on face book. I had always planned to have her but never had the chance. She gave me a great GFE experience. She did everything I wanted and I have some bends jajaja. She had a huge rack and a sweet nature. Next trip I may spend a few days with her. I could easily spend time with her and a few other chicas I know and not do Sosua but there nothing wrong with having options.
SavePros321
03-25-15, 11:08
Stay away from those porno movies thinking they are real life. Nobody is supposed to be fucking 45 minutes straight along with all the other bullshit they get you to believe is normal.That is absolutely true.
You are on the money. Porn is An illusion. It does provide serious motivation. I am not sure most women enjoy the wild side that we think is normal.
I would say they are extremely rare. After well over 1000 women on 6 continents here is my breakdown:
N. America: USA - 5 non-pros (Mexican in Georgia, Mexican in California, Black in Virginia, Black in California, White in Alabama).
S. America: Peru - 1 non-pro, Colombia - 1 pro (at Conejitos in Medellin. Fucked her in January).
Europe: 0.
Africa: 0.
Australia: 0.
Asia: Thailand - 1 non-pro, 1 pro.
I know of 2 other pro chicks (1 Thailand (friend who Sushilover fucked the other day. See his report in the Pattaya thread), 1 Brazil (Ingrid who worked at Luomo in Rio)) but have never fucked them.
Stay away from those porno movies thinking they are real life. Nobody is supposed to be fucking 45 minutes straight along with all the other bullshit they get you to believe is normal.
Santo Domingo. - Justice minister Francisco Dominguez on Monday said .... crimes that harm tourism.
His statement comes two weeks after two groups of children and adolescents were rescued from brothers where they worked as prostitutes and their own parents had sold them to tourists in the town of Sosua, Puerto Plata.
Dominquez said the authorities found eight, 13 and 14 year-old girls at a party, while in another, there were seven more, ages 15,16 and 18.
He said he has declared war on certain tourists who go to Sosua only for prostitutes and minors, adding Haitian prostitutes are prevalent in the north region, "damaging the possibility of family tourism in some beaches. ".Would those "brothers" happen to be "brothels" by any chance? But what brothels? There aren't any brothels in Sosua that I know about know that CMP and Passions have had their day.
Sounds like a rehash of the story of the recent major bust involving 16 Americans, or maybe not involving 16 Americans. Probably the neighbors complained about a noisy birthday party for some expatriate teenagers.
With the complete lack of detail of actual charges, named defendants, evidence, etc. coming out of these press reports and off-the-cuff statements by officials, who the hell knows what is really going on?
Member #2666
03-25-15, 17:59
The guy has serious issues and you are entitled to ignore him, but to say he doesn't like Americans is nonsense. He has a regular clientele of Americans for whom Ra ncho Tipico is their main meeting place. I think it fair to say even they go there in spite of him rather than because of him.I disagree. He is like a puta. They pretend to be your friend but all they really want is your money. He's just like that with Americans, not only myself but two or three others both black and white. He is prejudiced simple as that and fortunately there are many other places other places to frequent.
I just called 3 of my "Old Sosua" girls, who now live in Puerto Plata to let them know I will be in Sosua next month and all of them said Sosua is "No good" and they don't go anywhere near that place but I can visit them in Puerto Plata. What? These girls used to catch a bus for 5 hours across country to visit me and my deniro in SD, now they refuse to come 30 minutes up the road to Sosua LOL.
I would say they are extremely rare. After well over 1000 women on 6 continents here is my breakdown:
1 Brazil (Ingrid who worked at Luomo in Rio)) but have never fucked them.
.I heard from a former GDP, that Ingrid lives in Brooklyn and is married to a police officer. I had many hours of entertainment with her!
Chief Justice
03-25-15, 23:59
I'm in Sosua now have been for a week but have had no luck finding a squirter. Anybody with a phone number or contact information information would be greatly appreciated. Everything else here is a hundred percent lots of people lot of fun lots of girls excellent time.https://www.facebook.com/irismarlen.cruzgrinvalsky?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all
I heard from a former GDP, that Ingrid lives in Brooklyn and is married to a police officer. I had many hours of entertainment with her!One of my all-time favorites. Did her numerous times in 2002 and 2003 in Rio. She's a Rio standard, but I can't say I'd want to be married to her. Of course, if you don't know about all the meat she's taken in every hole, I guess it doesn't matter.
SavePros321
03-26-15, 01:11
I heard from a former GDP, that Ingrid lives in Brooklyn and is married to a police officer. I had many hours of entertainment with her!
One of my all-time favorites. Did her numerous times in 2002 and 2003 in Rio. She's a Rio standard, but I can't say I'd want to be married to her. Of course, if you don't know about all the meat she's taken in every hole, I guess it doesn't matter.
Alpha fucks, Beta Bucks!
I just called 3 of my "Old Sosua" girls, who now live in Puerto Plata to let them know I will be in Sosua next month and all of them said Sosua is "No good" and they don't go anywhere near that place but I can visit them in Puerto Plata. What? These girls used to catch a bus for 5 hours across country to visit me and my deniro in SD, now they refuse to come 30 minutes up the road to Sosua LOL.Dang brother! That's some unreal shit! You the man and still they said YOU need to go to them! WTF!
Tell the same girls you are staying in Cabereti and they are all over it. The two places are perceived 180 from one another.
I just called 3 of my "Old Sosua" girls, who now live in Puerto Plata to let them know I will be in Sosua next month and all of them said Sosua is "No good" and they don't go anywhere near that place but I can visit them in Puerto Plata. What? These girls used to catch a bus for 5 hours across country to visit me and my deniro in SD, now they refuse to come 30 minutes up the road to Sosua LOL.
Tell the same girls you are staying in Cabereti and they are all over it. The two places are perceived 180 from one another.That might work Old Kool, thanks. I never thought of that. See they are retired from the Sosua game and are now playing the "Good girl" role in Puerto Plata living with family members going to church. Its funny how they can transition from being a superstar in Sosua to being a normal good girl living with family members somewhere else. Its as if they never were about that life, that's why I can never trust a Dominicana.
I remember my first church girl in 2009. I would be sitting at 4 Roses bar everyday watching this girl and her momma pass everyday going to church. After my third trip I decided to take a shot and walked up to the girl and introduced myself. She was a worker at a resort in Puerto Plata and only attended church. She said I could come to her house and talk to her and boy I didn't realize the game I was about to play. I went to the house it was the barrio behind Europa hotel and the momma was very sweet. The girl asked for 500 pesos so we could send the mom away to be alone. I did it and she proceeded to show me her albums of her doing cultural shows at a resort in Puerto plata. It was all cool as I thought I was on to something special. She let me get close to her but nothing serious. I went out to Classicos and did my usual thing that night but the next day I went back to the girls house. The mom was sweet and the girl asked me for 500 pesos to send her mom off again, I was happy thinking I was going to get to bang the church girl but nothing except intimate kissing.
The third day I went back to the house and the girl asked for 500 pesos to send her mom to the store again. This time she pulled my dick out and let me lick her breasts but nothing more. I left the house confused and my dick spoke to me and said" I ain't got no pussy in 3 days and we are in Sosua cut this girl out". I did and she saw me sitting at $ Roses and said come with her to the beach. Okay, but I ain't fucking around anymore. Somehow we arrived at this store that had those little portable washing machines for 3500 pesos. I told her I wanted to do something nice for her mom but I couldn't do it now. She thought I meant buy the machine later as she stated she knew a place in POP. She said come with her as she was excited.
We went to the metro bus station in Sosua and she had me wait around the corner. I knew it was a pharmacy and they sold condoms because I had caught the bus there many times. She came out and we went to my hotel, Europa. She knew how to put the condom on me and even tweaked on my dick as she was fucking me, what happened to my church girl? She was fucking "up" to get the washing machine for Mom. After I hit it I started hanging at the bars on the other side of Sosua realizing my church girl had played me. She eventually moved to Holland to be with the Belgian guy she had told me broke her heart. Damn! You can't even trust the church girls in Sosua LOL.
I just called 3 of my "Old Sosua" girls, who now live in Puerto Plata to let them know I will be in Sosua next month and all of them said Sosua is "No good" and they don't go anywhere near that place but I can visit them in Puerto Plata. What? These girls used to catch a bus for 5 hours across country to visit me and my deniro in SD, now they refuse to come 30 minutes up the road to Sosua LOL.It's not that unusual, and you shouldn't take it personally.
As putas age they become less interested in trying to keep up with all the young, beautiful talent that keeps rolling through Sosua. It's a jungle out there!
Especially if they know about the other two. :)
OldKool is right!
Mongerer69
03-26-15, 13:21
About the young beautiful talent. I am 3 weeks away from my highly anticipated trip with friends. All this righteous and tuff talk on the part of officials has me wondering. ANY boots on the ground in Sosua now that can confirm that the Puta Parade is fairly normal? Is the action Rumbas ??? Classicos ???
It's not that unusual, and you shouldn't take it personally.
As putas age they become less interested in trying to keep up with all the young, beautiful talent that keeps rolling through Sosua. It's a jungle out there!
Especially if they know about the other two. :)
OldKool is right!
About the young beautiful talent. I am 3 weeks away from my highly anticipated trip with friends. All this righteous and tuff talk on the part of officials has me wondering. ANY boots on the ground in Sosua now that can confirm that the Puta Parade is fairly normal? Is the action Rumbas ??? Classicos ???The show is still going on. From Rumbas to Classsico. I just got back 3/23. The girls are looking good. Best time I had in Sosua in awhile.
I like this new set of chicas.
About the young beautiful talent. I am 3 weeks away from my highly anticipated trip with friends. All this righteous and tuff talk on the part of officials has me wondering. ANY boots on the ground in Sosua now that can confirm that the Puta Parade is fairly normal? Is the action Rumbas ??? Classicos ???Yes, and yes!
I was there 3 weeks ago.
Enjoy!
Member #2666
03-26-15, 17:32
I disagree. He is like a puta. They pretend to be your friend but all they really want is your money. He's just like that with Americans, not only myself but two or three others both black and white. He is prejudiced simple as that and fortunately there are many other places other places to frequent.The few times that I've gone there it has been heavily populated with Germans I don't believe I saw more than 1 to 2 Americans.
WorldTraveler3
03-26-15, 23:28
About the young beautiful talent. I am 3 weeks away from my highly anticipated trip with friends. All this righteous and tuff talk on the part of officials has me wondering. ANY boots on the ground in Sosua now that can confirm that the Puta Parade is fairly normal? Is the action Rumbas ??? Classicos ???I'm here now all is the same as it always was I don't see the quality as in past but there are a few 8's and 9's nothing that make me jump out my seat. However tonight is Thursday so that could change.
Mongerer69
03-27-15, 00:47
I will reciprocate when I arrive next month. To listen to all the Bull $hit the DR government is throwing around you would think the Sky is falling. We all know what Sosua is and by them making the drastic changes they have over the past 18 months, the only people they are hurting are the girls, their families, local business'. Trickle down effect.
About the young beautiful talent. I am 3 weeks away from my highly anticipated trip with friends. All this righteous and tuff talk on the part of officials has me wondering. ANY boots on the ground in Sosua now that can confirm that the Puta Parade is fairly normal? Is the action Rumbas ??? Classicos ???Just left last week. Sosua is as live as ever. What a machine! I love this place!
I just read that 80,000 women flock to Jamaica every year for sex tourism, it is called "Rent a Rasta". I doubt that that many men go to the DR for carnal delights. We are being out done by our women!
I just read that 80,000 women flock to Jamaica every year for sex tourism, it is called "Rent a Rasta". I doubt that that many men go to the DR for carnal delights. We are being out done by our women!What a stupid waste!
Just think of all the money we could save if we all met halfway, say in Florida. :)
See travel announcement section, returning to Sosua / Cabarette on April 15 staying until the 23rd. Looking for others into surfing, kayaking, snorkeling, and swimming besides chica activities. Send a PM if your interested. I will have a rental car.
Has the Premium Bar directly across the street from Rumbas re-opened or is it still shutdown?
I just read that 80,000 women flock to Jamaica every year for sex tourism, it is called "Rent a Rasta". I doubt that that many men go to the DR for carnal delights. We are being out done by our women!Hardly a surprise. Back in 76 when I started my mongering trips Rastas were doing German and American girls while I was doing their women in more than a few occasions with very little money involved. Back then Negril was a paradise. By 81,the German and Canadian tourism had destroyed the charm.
SavePros321
03-27-15, 16:57
I just read that 80,000 women flock to Jamaica every year for sex tourism, it is called "Rent a Rasta". I doubt that that many men go to the DR for carnal delights. We are being out done by our women!No need to fear! Unless you are really into Ham-Beasts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJPG0p_LmNY
See travel announcement section, returning to Sosua / Cabarette on April 15 staying until the 23rd. Looking for others into surfing, kayaking, snorkeling, and swimming besides chica activities. Send a PM if your interested. I will have a rental car.You Surf I might be in the area at the same time.
I just read that 80,000 women flock to Jamaica every year for sex tourism, it is called "Rent a Rasta". I doubt that that many men go to the DR for carnal delights. We are being out done by our women!I have rented a furnished 1 bedroom apartment when I was last time in puerto plata. There were two middle aged american women (1 BBW and other one in good shape) and 1 skinny canadian woman in the same building. They were doing very well with a different young dominican guy every day.
Us old goats chasing young pussy is no difference.
I have rented a furnished 1 bedroom apartment when I was last time in puerto plata. There were two middle aged american women (1 BBW and other one in good shape) and 1 skinny canadian woman in the same building. They were doing very well with a different young dominican guy every day.
Hey guys,
It is very important not to get too drunk and to be very vigilant while on the strip at night. I was in Sosua from March 16th-March 21. On March 19th (which was a Thursday Night) I was in front of Rumbas hanging out and watching the sexy chicas as they passed by. I was not there a good 10 minutes before I heard a girl scream. I looked her way and notice she was screaming because this Dominican guy pulled a pistol out of his pocket and pointed towards this other Dominican guy as they was arguing. I thought for sure I was going to witness a murder first hand. So as he stood there pointing his weapon and continued arguing with this guy, I walked into Rumbas as quickly as I could to get away from the situation. As you might imagine, the chicas in Rumbas (which was packed) started running to the action as I was getting away from it. Fortunately, what ever it was did not last no more than five or ten minutes because I notice that area thinned out pretty quickly. Probably because they saw the policia coming. Just keep in mind you don't have to be involved in a situation in order to pay the ultimate price. Moreover, just stepping off the curb unto the streets can be very dangerous. So again be very vigilant as you enjoy paradise!
Hey guys,
It is very important not to get too drunk and to be very vigilant while on the strip at night. I was in Sosua from March 16th-March 21. On March 19th (which was a Thursday Night) I was in front of Rumbas hanging out and watching the sexy chicas as they passed by. I was not there a good 10 minutes before I heard a girl scream. I looked her way and notice she was screaming because this Dominican guy pulled a pistol out of his pocket and pointed towards this other Dominican guy as they was arguing. I thought for sure I was going to witness a murder first hand. So as he stood there pointing his weapon and continued arguing with this guy, I walked into Rumbas as quickly as I could to get away from the situation. As you might imagine, the chicas in Rumbas (which was packed) started running to the action as I was getting away from it. Fortunately, what ever it was did not last no more than five or ten minutes because I notice that area thinned out pretty quickly. Probably because they saw the policia coming. Just keep in mind you don't have to be involved in a situation in order to pay the ultimate price. Moreover, just stepping off the curb unto the streets can be very dangerous. So again be very vigilant as you enjoy paradise!The good news is that confrontations with well behaved mongers is rare.
But you do have to keep an eye out for potential trouble.
Mongerer69
03-29-15, 13:38
I will be arriving with several friends in a couple of weeks and looking for a driver with a van for day trips airport etc. If anybody has a telephone number of a reliable driver with a van please PM me. Thanks in advance.
I have been to Sosua about 7 times and have never needed a car. Sosua itself is walkable. In 10 minutes you can be almost any where you want in Sosua. If you use cabs and publicos you should be able to get any where you want inexpensively.
I will be arriving with several friends in a couple of weeks and looking for a driver with a van for day trips airport etc. If anybody has a telephone number of a reliable driver with a van please PM me. Thanks in advance.
Mongerer69
03-29-15, 16:22
Because we will be 5 guys. I would rather make a rapport with a steady driver and have a van and fair prices at our disposal during the length of our stay. We will be going to Cabarete several times, maybe a trip to Blackbeards or FOD, and 2 Airport trips. That's reason enough.
I have been to Sosua about 7 times and have never needed a car. Sosua itself is walkable. In 10 minutes you can be almost any where you want in Sosua. If you use cabs and publicos you should be able to get any where you want inexpensively.
I will be arriving with several friends in a couple of weeks and looking for a driver with a van for day trips airport etc. If anybody has a telephone number of a reliable driver with a van please PM me. Thanks in advance.It is easy to rent a car. In your case a van is better so that you can pack your friends and chicas. Personally I always rent a car. Why you ask? I do not confine myself to Sosua mongering. Never sat on the back of a sweaty smelly guy, s back. Some of the cabs are beat up and you will have a problem if it conks.
With the freedom of your personal car you can go anywhere. If you are used to major cities driving in US you should be fine. I go to cabarets discos, puerto plata bars, BB etc. Even when I park in Sosua I tip the guy there 50 pesos and he makes sure the car is fine. I have picked up chicks on the road, have stopped by local watering holes. You will be surprised how friendly local guy, s are. One lady even suggested me taking her daughter.
If you are into sightseeing nicer to have a car. Take some chicks with you. I have done this in Costa Rica as well with visits Arenal, rain forest tour etc. Have even gone to Chicas houses in DR.
Mongerer69
03-29-15, 16:52
You bring up good points with the Car Rental angle, but I have this phobia about renting a car in a foreign country. I know Sosua area is not bad driving compared to Metro Manila but I still would rather just have a reliable driver with a van. I'm looking to relax as I'm still going through PPD (Post Philippine Depression) just got back last month from one of my best trips ever and this trip is just meant to get the "edge" off.
It is easy to rent a car. In your case a van is better so that you can pack your friends and chicas. Personally I always rent a car. Why you ask? I do not confine myself to Sosua mongering. Never sat on the back of a sweaty smelly guy, s back. Some of the cabs are beat up and you will have a problem if it conks.
With the freedom of your personal car you can go anywhere. If you are used to major cities driving in US you should be fine. I go to cabarets discos, puerto plata bars, BB etc. Even when I park in Sosua I tip the guy there 50 pesos and he makes sure the car is fine. I have picked up chicks on the road, have stopped by local watering holes. You will be surprised how friendly local guy, s are. One lady even suggested me taking her daughter.
If you are into sightseeing nicer to have a car. Take some chicks with you. I have done this in Costa Rica as well with visits Arenal, rain forest tour etc. Have even gone to Chicas houses in DR.
You bring up good points with the Car Rental angle, but I have this phobia about renting a car in a foreign country. I know Sosua area is not bad driving compared to Metro Manila but I still would rather just have a reliable driver with a van. I'm looking to relax as I'm still going through PPD (Post Philippine Depression) just got back last month from one of my best trips ever and this trip is just meant to get the "edge" off.I love phi as well and have many girlfriends still. Problem is the distance and at least two weeks to enjoy all. Sousa hardly compares to phi. Sometimes I have gotten lucky finding horny clean GFE.
Have fun.
Yes, but I would recommend anyone, unless it is an emergency, to use ATMs at banks. If the machine swallows your card at a stand-alone ATM or you have other problems such as wrong or nil cash dispensed, it could take several days to get rectified. And ATMs at banks are better serviced and guarded against tampering. A five minute walk to the nearest bank could save you headaches or money.
Better yet is to draw cash over the counter inside a bank. More secure, and you can ask for a selection of small bills and coins to be included, as change is hard to come by on the streets.The Scotia Bank ATM in the pharamcy is the swipe style so it cannot eat your card, as is the new machine recently replaced at Progresso Bank, next door to Super Super. However neither machine would read my Canadian Scotia card, I asked in the bank and they said the international connections were down and they had no idea when they would be back up. As I was down to my last 100 pesos I had to use my CC in the bank to get cash.
The few times that I've gone there it has been heavily populated with Germans I don't believe I saw more than 1 to 2 Americans.I have been here in Sosua for almost a month and most nights go to Rancho Tipico for the daily special. Depending on the night there can be up to 10 of us in our group, all Americans and Canadians. The food is good and cheap, cannot beat the 99 peso spaghetti. And yes Ad is an a $$hole, he freely admits it.
A trip to the DR is looks real strong. The question is where to go. I can to the SD and import and do a few locals or to Sosua and sport fuck to death. It is really not as close as it use to be. Every time I go to Sosua I find new favorite things to do. Dinner at Baileys (fish and pizza), ribs at Rocky's and the beaches Caberetti and Sosua and Caberreti bars and clubs. I can enjoy many things Sosua aside from the chicas.
L like SD but dam is it a lot of work. You have to schedule your chicas and the night life during the week is very weak.
This time I am going by myself. Last trip I had 2 lame wing men and they almost rained on my parade. Sport fucking sex is a bit shallow but 20 year old pussy is always a pleasure. So just thinking about this is getting me pumped.
A trip to the DR is looks real strong. The question is where to go. I can to the SD and import and do a few locals or to Sosua and sport fuck to death. It is really not as close as it use to be. Every time I go to Sosua I find new favorite things to do. Dinner at Baileys (fish and pizza), ribs at Rocky's and the beaches Caberetti and Sosua and Caberreti bars and clubs. I can enjoy many things Sosua aside from the chicas.
L like SD but dam is it a lot of work. You have to schedule your chicas and the night life during the week is very weak.
This time I am going by myself. Last trip I had 2 lame wing men and they almost rained on my parade. Sport fucking sex is a bit shallow but 20 year old pussy is always a pleasure. So just thinking about this is getting me pumped.Old Kool you are a smart dude but your stubbornness leads to long lessons. You have been taking wingmen to the DR for years then complaining about it every trip after. Baileys, Rockys have been mainstays for years but you act like they are new. Cabarette is not that good for picking up chicas but it is good for a date.
SD is a hidden gem and Sosua sport fucking is a mixed bag of tricks. I would rather sit in my hotel jacking off rather than fucking some of those 30 minute tricks in Sosua. I like hanging out at the beach catching a Puerta plata freelancer who hangs there before returning home, for an afternoon delight verses a "New Classicos" Chica that runs as soon as you nut.
SD has a great airport with cheap fights. It has all the amenities of a big city, zoo, movies, clubs, colmados, car-washes, casinos, malls. It also has women everywhere, guys just don't have the time and patience to let SD open up to them.
SD was your spot and you had much success there, now you want to preach Sosua because it is easy work?
I have taken guys with me 3 times. I felt obligated in a way to help the poor bastards out. I have a generous heart. Your point about the quick out chicas is valid. It is a challenge to make these young sweeties stay and enjoy the time. My point is that Sosua has much to offer other then a lot of pussy. I enjoy talking with the guys playing dominos and pool. For some reason you have soured on Sosua. I have learned how to make it work for me. I take a special chica to Caberetti for date maybe an import. I do not go to Caberetti to pick up chicas. I go there to chill out or dance the night away. SD beach is Boca Chica I can not walk there and it sucks.
I can do SD with little trouble but it does not provide the opportunities of Sosua or the ease. Vacationing is about fun and relaxation. I just discovered that I can fly to POP for $530 as opposed to SD for 470. This is a wash for me. Flying out of my normal airport it would be $728. Gogo you spend way more time in the DR then I do. You have the time to invest. I want the most return for the least effort. Sosua meets this way more then the lovely SD.
Old Kool you are a smart dude but your stubbornness leads to long lessons. You have been taking wingmen to the DR for years then complaining about it every trip after. Baileys, Rockys have been mainstays for years but you act like they are new. Cabarette is not that good for picking up chicas but it is good for a date.
SD is a hidden gem and Sosua sport fucking is a mixed bag of tricks. I would rather sit in my hotel jacking off rather than fucking some of those 30 minute tricks in Sosua. I like hanging out at the beach catching a Puerta plata freelancer who hangs there before returning home, for an afternoon delight verses a "New Classicos" Chica that runs as soon as you nut.
SD has a great airport with cheap fights. It has all the amenities of a big city, zoo, movies, clubs, colmados, car-washes, casinos, malls. It also has women everywhere, guys just don't have the time and patience to let SD open up to them.
SD was your spot and you had much success there, now you want to preach Sosua because it is easy work?
I have taken guys with me 3 times. I felt obligated in a way to help the poor bastards out. I have a generous heart. Your point about the quick out chicas is valid. It is a challenge to make these young sweeties stay and enjoy the time. My point is that Sosua has much to offer other then a lot of pussy. I enjoy talking with the guys playing dominos and pool. For some reason you have soured on Sosua. I have learned how to make it work for me. I take a special chica to Caberetti for date maybe an import. I do not go to Caberetti to pick up chicas. I go there to chill out or dance the night away. SD beach is Boca Chica I can not walk there and it sucks.
I can do SD with little trouble but it does not provide the opportunities of Sosua or the ease. Vacationing is about fun and relaxation. I just discovered that I can fly to POP for $530 as opposed to SD for 470. This is a wash for me. Flying out of my normal airport it would be $728. Gogo you spend way more time in the DR then I do. You have the time to invest. I want the most return for the least effort. Sosua meets this way more then the lovely SD.Agreed, not trying argue. My trips to the DR have decreased as I explore other spots but I don't have to accept some of the changes going on in Sosua, I just think outside the box. I don't fuck hardcore "Rumba" chicas. I prefer the off brand chicas and spots where sport fucking is not the norm. The beach, the outter bars etc. They are more appreciative and give me more of a GFE experience with the least hassle. IMO sport fucking full time is for the young guys who are trying to build their numbers and have quick fun. Us "old guys" need to mature to the game, meaning we have to break from the norm and get more out of our interactions and sex experiences. More quality over quantity is the mature game that comes with growth. Sosua has gotten away from this but it's still there if you know how to shop. As much as you go to the DR bro it's no need for you to be sport fucking Rumba tricks, that's for the guys who are new or don't have as much time to invest.
I remember flying to POP for 289 rt in 2007, now it's over 600. If you get it lower than that it usually requires a night layover in Miami. I can fly into SDQ for 315 now, don't know why it cost you so much.
In closing, I like your energy but I really liked when you were in SD spending time with the girls enjoying your vacation your way. But to feel you have to downgrade and go to Sosua and jump on the sport fucking merry-go-round defeats all the knowledge you gained previously. Old Kool you are an old school romance guy, it's nothing wrong with that. Leave the sport fucking to the guys that don't know better.
Peace.
Mongerer69
03-30-15, 15:54
Cuba Dave is saying on his Facebook that Classico's is charging P2,000 Cover Charge? I don't believe it, maybe P200. Can anybody confirm?
Cuba Dave is saying on his Facebook that Classico's is charging P2,000 Cover Charge? I don't believe it, maybe P200. Can anybody confirm?The charge is 200 pesos. If you come before 11 pm It is 100 Pesos. Some girls try to buy these ones.
Cuba Dave is saying on his Facebook that Classico's is charging P2,000 Cover Charge? I don't believe it, maybe P200. Can anybody confirm?He back in DR?
Cuba Dave is saying on his Facebook that Classico's is charging P2,000 Cover Charge? I don't believe it, maybe P200. Can anybody confirm?It is best not to listen to anything that CD says.
It is still 200.
The clubs were raided by an army of fully equipped women!
I was so scared. The "Sky was Falling!" It was raining, not cats and dogs, but with chicas, and more chicas!
Sosua continues to be; Sosua!
Mongerer69
03-30-15, 17:42
Got to love it. My confidence in humanity has returned.
The clubs were raided by an army of fully equipped women!
I was so scared. The "Sky was Falling!" It was raining, not cats and dogs, but with chicas, and more chicas!
Sosua continues to be; Sosua!
[Go I love GFE as much as you but that does not mean I can not enjoy sport fucking as well. In truth some times a hard core pro is just what the doctor ordered. I always try to mix them. Variety is the spice of life. I can do SD as well as any one but I choose the flexibility Sosua affords. I use my experience to inhance my sessions. I bring in chicas and take them to Caberreti for the beach and night life. Sosua gives me a base to explore my hobby at the highest level In closing it is not what you do it is how you do it. Iam doing the hell out of Sosua.
TwoSticks99
03-30-15, 22:02
Well I finely made it to DR, I went to Black Beards I was impressed you didn't have to anything but point and say Hi It reminded me of the Del Ray, Girls wear a lot better looking then in the monthly e-mail flyer rates for the girls was around $40, US for about a an hour in the room or you can take a girl to the hot tub for about $15, you can do what ever in the tub I would go for BJ's $15 how can you beat that, I like it so much that I booked a return trip at the end of April for 3 days then off to Sosua for 5 days I never been there so it looks like I will have to take my Cialis and my secret weapon PT-141 now I am a older guy 67 been going to Colombia since '04 and CR since 2000 but I have not been any place since '09 Real Estate in FL killed me but now I am able to Travel, I never posted on this site I would read the other sites, but the other sites are no longer around and I am so happy I found this site, its great I moved to Bonita Springs FL, from Chicago Il so all I have to do is drive to Ft Lauderdale about 2 hours park at the parking lot and get on a plain and two hours later I am in the land of pink pussy, I fly Spirit $240. Round trip great price but flying times suck but its cheaper then paying $600. To $800. For a flight, and get this my flight in April is $120, round trip, How can you beat that so I will post when I get back, thanks for all the info.
Can someone let me know if Dlatin's is reopened? Or the massage parlor ran by the Haitian girls. Is the Frat gang still hangout at New Gardens?
Can someone let me know if Dlatin's is reopened? Or the massage parlor ran by the Haitian girls. Is the Frat gang still hangout at new gardens?Can someone let me know if Dlatin's is reopened? NO.
Or the massage parlor ran by the Haitian girls. Which one?
Is the Frat gang still hangout at new gardens? YES, only on the weekends.
Well I finely made it to DR, I went to Black Beards I was impressed you didn't have to anything but point and say Hi It reminded me of the Del Ray, Girls wear a lot better looking then in the monthly e-mail flyer rates for the girls was around $40, US for about a an hour in the room or you can take a girl to the hot tub for about $15, you can do what ever in the tub I would go for BJ's $15 how can you beat that, I like it so much that I booked a return trip at the end of April for 3 days then off to Sosua for 5 days I never been there so it looks like I will have to take my Cialis and my secret weapon PT-141 now I am a older guy 67 been going to Colombia since '04 and CR since 2000 but I have not been any place since '09 Real Estate in FL killed me but now I am able to Travel, I never posted on this site I would read the other sites, but the other sites are no longer around and I am so happy I found this site, its great I moved to Bonita Springs FL, from Chicago Il so all I have to do is drive to Ft Lauderdale about 2 hours park at the parking lot and get on a plain and two hours later I am in the land of pink pussy, I fly Spirit $240. Round trip great price but flying times suck but its cheaper then paying $600. To $800. For a flight, and get this my flight in April is $120, round trip, How can you beat that so I will post when I get back, thanks for all the info.How did you get $120 ticket? I fly from ft Lauderdale to santo domingo and I never saw such a low round trip ticket price.
He back in DR?I think it has been over a year since he stepped foot in the country. He seems to be so angry about what happened to Passions that he's made an overt effort to trash the whole country but report as if he is giving his followers first hand experience. The only time he says something positive is when he is advert - -excuse me - -informing his readers about specific businesses. He refers to the owners of these establishments as "my friend".
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