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Monger#77
08-06-06, 09:13
"About 75% of all Dominicans are mulatto, that is, of mixed European and African ancestry. Some of these could also possess a smaller degree of indigenous Taíno ancestry. The presence of Taíno ancestry in the Dominican genepool needs to be further tested, and without proper scientific investigation sweeping claims cannot be made about the exact composition of any indigenous bloodlines.

There are also black and white (primarily Spanish descended) minorities. A smaller presence of East Asians (primarily ethnic Chinese) and Middle Easterners (primarily Lebanese) can also be found. The culturally indigenous Amerindian population is practically extinct..." www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_republic

-Helpmann :)
Thanks, Helpmann. The reason why I asked is cause some Haitian guy I work with (who claims he comes from DR but speaks creole and no Spanish) says that most of the girls are around his color. LOL! I have met a few Dominicans here in NJ and I dont remember seeing any like that.

Npaul1
08-06-06, 13:44
Haitians are "blue black" from generations of slave breeding on the island.

Most (80%) Dominicans are a shade lighter than Haitians but still dark, the lower classes seem to be darker. If you ride the bus they will appear darker.

20% have some light skin qualities. Of course the girls like to lighten up their hair by coloring it with streaks, even blond.

Sometimes depends on how much time they spend in the sun cutting sugar cane.

Terry U
08-06-06, 20:33
How safe is the dominican republic? And are the girls typically light skinned blacks or are they closer to the haitian variety?Like Helpman said, but I would like to add that the more lighter complexion dominicans are located in the Cibao region, ie. Santiago, Moca, Mao, Jarabacoa, etc.

Ford
08-06-06, 21:11
By the way, Ford, Manolos appears to be a chain. I was in Panama City, Panama, 3 weeks ago and across from Casino Veneto and club Oasis was "Manolos" restaurant. Must be a franchise?

There were a few good looking girls there on the porch at Manolos in Panama City to pickup, but not like Habamos. Has anyone else been at Manolos in Panama City Panama?

A chain? That's interesting, I will be in Panama next month. Is the restaurant in PTY a 24 hour restaurant also?

Regulr Travlr
08-06-06, 23:19
I will be interested to hear if you think it is a chain or just a commom name once you see it.

I believe it is open 24 hours. If not, it is open very early and very late. The one in Panama is very reasonable and has a huge menu. I would describe the food as average. But it makes for a decent meal. The patio is a great area for chica watching and there are usually a few working girls eating there. There are definitely some walking by all the time and looking in. But the mgmt frowns on them just walking in for business. You have to go out and get them.

My "friend" from Life Girls used to eat there a lot with other girls. The main reason was price. I got the impression that they would not be adverse to meeting some new clients during the day there. This way they could pocket the entire fee themselves and not have to split it with the house.

George90
08-07-06, 14:49
Haitians are "blue black" from generations of slave breeding on the island.

Most (80%) Dominicans are a shade lighter than Haitians but still dark, the lower classes seem to be darker. If you ride the bus they will appear darker.

20% have some light skin qualities. Of course the girls like to lighten up their hair by coloring it with streaks, even blond.

Sometimes depends on how much time they spend in the sun cutting sugar cane.

I don't know where Npaul is getting his information, but the forum should know that were never ever "generations of slave breeding" in Haiti. The French brought slaves from Africa to Haiti for about 100 years from the mid 1600's to the mid 1700's. They stopped because by then there were so many slave revolts that killed so many French slave owners that they feared bringing even more Africans to the island. They brought more French soldiers instead. That didn't help as Toussaint L'Ouverture led a successful rebellion in 1798 that kicked the French out of Haiti by 1804, the year of Haitian independence.

So, 1) there was not enough time to engage in slave breeding for "generations" and 2) it was ALWAYS cheaper and faster to import more slaves than to "breed" local ones.

Dagar
08-07-06, 19:09
Is anybody in Santo Domingo Aug 8 to 12.

I am spanish challenged so could use someone to monger arnd with.

Ford
08-07-06, 22:28
I will be interested to hear if you think it is a chain or just a commom name once you see it.

I believe it is open 24 hours. If not, it is open very early and very late. The one in Panama is very reasonable and has a huge menu. I would describe the food as average. But it makes for a decent meal. The patio is a great area for chica watching and there are usually a few working girls eating there. There are definitely some walking by all the time and looking in. But the mgmt frowns on them just walking in for business. You have to go out and get them.

My "friend" from Life Girls used to eat there a lot with other girls. The main reason was price. I got the impression that they would not be adverse to meeting some new clients during the day there. This way they could pocket the entire fee themselves and not have to split it with the house.

Hi RT,

It sounds similar. The one in SDQ is not exactly what I'd call "fine" dining but it also has a huge menu, is open 24/7 and has respectable Spanish fare late into the night.

By 3am its mostly patronized by Taxistas, but I've definitely found myself making an appearance for a strong cup of cafe con leche and some Dominican Modongo (mashed plantains with some shredded pork and garlic) at around 3:30am. Modongo is great at soaking up your stomach when you've had too many Presidentes and have a hangover. ;)

I suspect we'll be checking out the one in PTY next month! ;)

cheers my friend.............

MrMorton
08-08-06, 04:10
Are there any discos in Santo Domingo where there is P4P with pros or semi-pros? Something like Help in Rio?

World Cruiser
08-09-06, 20:30
I have read a lot of posts about hotels that are chica friendly and also posted my own experiences. But I've never seen anyone post about staying in an apartment instead of a hotel. Cuban hotels may be the most un-chica friendly places in the world and most people solve the problem by staying in a casa particular - a private apartment or private room in a house. Does anyone know of anything like this in the DR? Are there furnished 1BR places that you can rent short term in Santo Domingo? If so I'd like to know how much they cost and how to contact them.

Thanks

Helpmann
08-10-06, 00:24
Are there any discos in Santo Domingo where there is P4P with pros or semi-pros? Something like Help in Rio?
Not that I know of in Santo Domingo. In Sosua and Boca Chica, yes. Nevertheless, the service and quality of the women in Sosua and Boca Chica is noticeably below that of the women you'll find in Help.

-Helpmann :)

Helpmann
08-10-06, 00:28
I have read a lot of posts about hotels that are chica friendly and also posted my own experiences. But I've never seen anyone post about staying in an apartment instead of a hotel. Cuban hotels may be the most un-chica friendly places in the world and most people solve the problem by staying in a casa particular - a private apartment or private room in a house. Does anyone know of anything like this in the DR? Are there furnished 1BR places that you can rent short term in Santo Domingo? If so I'd like to know how much they cost and how to contact them.

Thanks
There are a handful of true apartment listings for vacationers in Santo Domingo. You'll find more in Sosua and La Romana.

There is nothing like Cuba's casa particular system in the Dominican Republic.

-Helpmann :)

Mister White
08-10-06, 16:12
Anyone interested in buying an apartment in Santo Domingo for living there ?
http://www.ondamare.info/index.php?&set=165&dom_id=&dom_sld=ondamare&dom_tld=info&no_tags=1&sito_gratis=&sito=&local_page=indexespana

There are many double-room / double-bath apartments available from 60,000 to 85,000 US$ in a nice place.

Member #2128
08-10-06, 21:37
ISG Intellectuals NPAUL1 and GEORGE90 get ready to rumble on the issue of "slave breeding in Haiti" in the 1600's!!! It could get bloody! Pages could be torn ragged from books! Front row seats on sale at your local University bookstore!

Whether the Haitians were "bred" in holding pens next to the cane fields by the fanatical French, imported over time in the dark, rat infested holds of slave ships, or just following their human instincts to orgasmic conclusions, they seem to be more and more ever-present, right now, in the DR due to the political mess in their own neighboring country.

In my own limited non-university experience, the Haitianas I have met in the DR were jovial, sexually enthusiastic and built with bodies, full and supple, with all parts designed with healthy reproduction in mind!

Always a great ride!

#2128
"Haitiana Memories Make Me Hard"

Ford
08-11-06, 22:29
Anyway, getting off the esoteric and back to something of real value to members of this board - Anyone see the blowout pricing deals that American Airlines is offering to SDQ from NYC for this fall??

O.K. you'll probably have to pack your shampoo, and cologne, and mouthwash, and toothpaste in your checked luggage but .........

direct flights from Newark and JFK to SDQ for $345 (plus tax).
to POP for around $360!
to STI for around $320!

The third quarter is traditionally a slow time for domestic carriers and they typically slash prices but with jet fuel as high as it is I never expected to see prices like this. :)

Not bad, not bad at all.

(I think tickets have to be purchased by Aug 16th for trips up thru December)

cheers..................

James Zz
08-12-06, 01:43
A question to the members who live or travel often to SDQ. What effect has the new "crime prevention" rules had. I am use to "open all night".

Not that I stay up all night but at least there were places i could go.

The DR is not perfect but the freedom to do what you wanted always made it a great place. The usa has been taking away freedom for years now. Is the DR on the same path.

Sometimes i take the late flight from panama to SDQ which arrives at 11:00PM. Will everything be closed and quiet?

The AA flight prices are very good. Yes, book before August 16th.

The first girl i was with in the DR many years ago was a jet black 18 year old haitian girl. Rock hard body and skin that was sooooo smooth. She did everything i wanted and smiled.

My gf in santo domingo is very light skinned but i love a good haitian girl. There are some very nice haitian girls with hard bodies and personalities and skills that will make you happy all day and night.

In my traveles i have learned to look for personalities and beauty. The color does not matter to me.

Member #2128
08-12-06, 02:54
[QUOTE=Ford

direct flights from Newark and JFK to SDQ for $345 (plus tax).
to POP for around $360!
to STI for around $320!

cheers..................[/QUOTE]

Damn! I paid $520 for the SDQ ticket in July when the temperature in the DR was stifling! Is that what they call "high season"...more like high temperature season!

I bet November and December are sweet with beach breezes and cool night air....

#2128

Draday97
08-13-06, 17:57
Heading to SDQ in a couple of weeks... 8/24 - 8/29, this will be my first trip to SDQ, and looking for advise on the does and don't, and not to pay too much, and can I make out good without speaking spanish?

ThePerson
08-14-06, 04:08
Damn! I paid $520 for the SDQ ticket in July when the temperature in the DR was stifling! Is that what they call "high season"...more like high temperature season!

I bet November and December are sweet with beach breezes and cool night air....

#2128With USA3000 its running about $320.00 total with tax from philly or EWR.

Griot
08-14-06, 17:43
To scan back in most any of the DR boards and you will fine plenty of info on do's and don'ts in the DR. Unfortunately most of the don'ts were directed at me :-). I guest I am kind of the hard headed youngster around here. Some of the veterans will probable chide in, but if you speak no spanish SDQ is probable the more difficult PFP location. Thats not to say you will not have any success. My opinion Sousa and Boca Chica are more suitable for Spanish challenged PFP. Most of the girls know a few simple sentences in English, like what your name? where you from? You want Freaky freaky? You can deduce what the latter is asking? They will quickly size you up, and start fishing for how much money you may be worth. There are quite a few don't so be careful. You may want to be more specific with your question, as far as what areas you are seeking info.

Griot


Heading to SDQ in a couple of weeks... 8/24 - 8/29, this will be my first trip to SDQ, and looking for advise on the does and don't, and not to pay too much, and can I make out good without speaking spanish?

Griot
08-14-06, 17:56
I am not sure but I think the restrictions focus around mainly the tourist cities BC , Sousa etc. Yeap at 12 midnight Sun -Thur the police are out in force to assure the party stops. There are a few more police on the streets, but other than that I did not see a big difference. There were not harassing anyone. I don't know where you will be staying but I saw very few traditional Haitian woman in BC last week. I totally agree with looking for personality and beauty and not the color of the skin.

Griot


A question to the members who live or travel often to SDQ. What effect has the new "crime prevention" rules had. I am use to "open all night".

Not that I stay up all night but at least there were places i could go.

The DR is not perfect but the freedom to do what you wanted always made it a great place. The usa has been taking away freedom for years now. Is the DR on the same path.

Sometimes i take the late flight from panama to SDQ which arrives at 11:00PM. Will everything be closed and quiet?

The AA flight prices are very good. Yes, book before August 16th.

The first girl i was with in the DR many years ago was a jet black 18 year old haitian girl. Rock hard body and skin that was sooooo smooth. She did everything i wanted and smiled.

My gf in santo domingo is very light skinned but i love a good haitian girl. There are some very nice haitian girls with hard bodies and personalities and skills that will make you happy all day and night.

In my traveles i have learned to look for personalities and beauty. The color does not matter to me.

Terry U
08-15-06, 00:13
A question to the members who live or travel often to SDQ. What effect has the new "crime prevention" rules had. I am use to "open all night".

Not that I stay up all night but at least there were places i could go.

Sometimes i take the late flight from panama to SDQ which arrives at 11:00PM. Will everything be closed and quiet?You can forget about the all-nighters at the discos and local tipicos, lights are on and music is off at midnight Sun-Thu. If you arrive at 11:00pm, run to the nearest colmado and buy enough to last you and your novia the rest of the night.

Draday97
08-15-06, 03:37
Thanks Griot,

The do's that I seeking would be where to find action, lovely ladies at a reasonable cost. I don't want to offer to much nor too less., but I would like to find very hot looking/"action" ladies.


To scan back in most any of the DR boards and you will fine plenty of info on do's and don'ts in the DR. Unfortunately most of the don'ts were directed at me :-). I guest I am kind of the hard headed youngster around here. Some of the veterans will probable chide in, but if you speak no spanish SDQ is probable the more difficult PFP location. Thats not to say you will not have any success. My opinion Sousa and Boca Chica are more suitable for Spanish challenged PFP. Most of the girls know a few simple sentences in English, like what your name? where you from? You want Freaky freaky? You can deduce what the latter is asking? They will quickly size you up, and start fishing for how much money you may be worth. There are quite a few don't so be careful. You may want to be more specific with your question, as far as what areas you are seeking info.

Griot

Caribic_Monger
08-16-06, 00:45
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Ender
08-22-06, 06:17
Good point Ford, I remember the same thing. Strange though because flights to Peru and Columbia are the same as they were before. Possibly a tax increase in Costa Rica.?

Got a flight on Jet Blue to Santiago for $315 R/T from JFK including taxes from Sept 20th-28th. Will take the Caribe Tours bus to Santo Domingo. Anyone going to be in SD during this time? Also, looking to hire someone to start an office in SD. Anyone suggest a method of finding good canidates? Newspaper ads?

Ender



Hey Chacha,

I have been to both, numerous times. Both places are alot of fun, and will definitely do the trick! I think, however as the war in Iraq drags on (and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on) the real question is where are you flying from and what kind of deal can you get on airfare to both places. Are the air prices comparable?

I remember I could fly from NYC to SJO or SDQ in 2004 for around $300 each (direct) now I've seen airfares to CR of $600 and more. With fuel costs so crazy, the flight price has become most important, especially if you plan on traveling for only a long-weekend.

cheers..........

Hernandez 5558
08-26-06, 17:08
It has been a long time since I've been to SD.

I would like to know which of the better hotels are chica friendly, with no problems in SD, where one could also walk to restaurants and other places?

Thanks

Chivas 1
08-26-06, 18:33
It has been a long time since I've been to SD.

I would like to know which of the better hotels are chica friendly, with no problems in SD, where one could also walk to restaurants and other places?

ThanksHernandez,

RTFF and do your own home work!. Many of the members here have written there great and informative reports for this very reason, and then people like you want to come along and want everything handed to you on a silver platter. That is very disrespectful to the others who have taken there time to write the reports. I hope no-one here just throws out this information for you. By taking your time and doing the research you will find alot of other valuable information as well.

Ford
08-26-06, 23:12
It has been a long time since I've been to SD.

I would like to know which of the better hotels are chica friendly, with no problems in SD, where one could also walk to restaurants and other places?

Thanks


Well this link to a post by the great "Ford" might help! (lol) :D

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=441509&postcount=118

The only change since I wrote this is that the Intercontinental and the Hilton (my two favorite places to stay no longer charge fees)

cheers..............

Fantasy
08-27-06, 15:20
Alot of rain on the South Coast, but thats it this time.

Hernandez 5558
08-29-06, 17:14
Ford thanks for taking the time to answer me. I got the Hilton in SD booked at what I believe is a good rate; $79+tax for King room + breakfast.

M. Hernandez

Andy S
08-29-06, 19:58
Ford thanks for taking the time to answer me. I got the Hilton in SD booked at what I believe is a good rate; $79+tax for King room + breakfast.

M. Hernandez

From where did you got this rate?

Hernandez 5558
09-01-06, 18:41
Andy,

I got that rate on Orbitz.

Free Sex
09-06-06, 19:45
Free here,

HELP! A buddy of mine that lives in SD said that Remingtons is closed? Is this correct? false? Please let me know.

Free

FunkMonkey
09-07-06, 03:40
I got my ticket for the same price, im also leaving out of JFK but I leave the next week how long are you planing on staying?


Good point Ford, I remember the same thing. Strange though because flights to Peru and Columbia are the same as they were before. Possibly a tax increase in Costa Rica.?

Got a flight on Jet Blue to Santiago for $315 R/T from JFK including taxes from Sept 20th-28th. Will take the Caribe Tours bus to Santo Domingo. Anyone going to be in SD during this time? Also, looking to hire someone to start an office in SD. Anyone suggest a method of finding good canidates? Newspaper ads?

Ender

Andy S
09-09-06, 19:38
Hi guys!

Can you advise me on the best Santo Domingo night clubs, like a big disco or something like this, but decent and relatively safes?

Gpiper
09-12-06, 00:34
Loft en Naco: 809-732-4016 tiradentes 44
Nowhere Bar: 809-685-8290 Calle Hostos 205 Zona Colonial
Trio Cafe 809-412-0964 av. abraham lincoln n12a plaza castilla ensance, Naco
Monte Cristo Cafe: 909-542-5000 ave. jose armado soler at av. abraham licoln, serralles.
These clubs open till 2am on weekends and 12am during the week. Loft is the biggest. Plays house music. Monte Cristo Cafe is small but packed. Pros on occassion at Loft. Haven´t checked out Trio or Nowhere Bar yet.

Gpiper
09-12-06, 00:49
Hooter type places. Girls wear sexy little outfits. Girls are non-aggressive and some are available for daytime excursions, but some do have attitudes and may decline
offers. I have had a few at both places make dates then not show up. But that is not the norm. La Base is bigger and has Big Screen Direct TV. Both places have hot chics many 7´s and 8´s, and an occasional 9. Food and Beer is good and reasonably priced. Beware, some girls will ask you to buy them dinner there at La Base but will not sit and eat with you.
La Base on avenida espana. Eagles, 809-236-4316 in Zona Oriental. Taxistas know where this is. Call Apolo Taxi: 809-537-0000 or Leo Taxi: 809-245-8492

Interdude
09-12-06, 12:32
Ford thanks for taking the time to answer me. I got the Hilton in SD booked at what I believe is a good rate; $79+tax for King room + breakfast.

M. HernandezHow did you get the Hilton at 79? That is great! Please send me a PM and let me know!

Member #4643
09-12-06, 17:49
I have discovered that it is fairly easy to find a quick early morning (7-8am) girl by walking slowly back and forth down Conde from Duarte towards the Parque de Colon (I think that is its name) and simply smiling at the girls. Most of them respond with a smile... and then walk on. But I am batting 1000 (for you non-americans, that is 100%) at finding a willing girl within 15 minutes.

Granted, these have not been the greatest treasures in the world (no experimenting with bareback on these girls), but they certainly took care of my levitra hangover! The first girl was a thin girl whom I had seen hanging out in the park the night before and she was floored when I invited her into the hotel (as if the sunlight changes hookers into ladies). This morning i met a large breasted chica selling newspapers who needed a little extra cash. When I declined the newspaper she offered a massage.

In any case, these were surprises since sometimes Conde can be extremely frustrating. So if you wake up in Santo Domingo with a raging hard on, take my advice and take a stroll down Conde.

Free Sex
09-13-06, 15:52
Free Here,

Conde is a GEM. I will be in SD in about 2 weeks. My FIRST stop will be conde for the first few hours to drink Presidentes and harass the girls walking down conde..lol. Also you guys need to check out the various bodegas, especially the one located near the national university.

Free

PS- Does anyone know for SURE if Remington Palace is still open?!?!

BoricuaOnline
09-14-06, 03:27
I talked to a Remington chica a few minutes ago, she told me that the place is open, but Monday-Friday until midnight and weekends closes at 2 am. $2,000 pesos. Best time to take a Remington chica is near midnight, she is going to stay with you until 9 am, their Remington breakfast ends at 10:00 am, if you provide her a breakfast she is going to stay with you until noon.




Free Here,

Conde is a GEM. I will be in SD in about 2 weeks. My FIRST stop will be conde for the first few hours to drink Presidentes and harass the girls walking down conde..lol. Also you guys need to check out the various bodegas, especially the one located near the national university.

Free

PS- Does anyone know for SURE if Remington Palace is still open?!?!

Brgrk
09-14-06, 13:09
Good Intel :-) I will start shopping close to closing and providing breakfast for extra pops :-))

Free Sex
09-14-06, 15:38
Thanks BO for the info

Alexalex
09-19-06, 02:24
i am going to sd in oct. i am staying in barcelo talanquera beach resort
in juan dolio. is this hotel chica friendly, or is there any clubs or chica places near this city (juan dolio) ?. pleace help me. this is my first time going there and i don't speek spanish.

thanks.

Amigo of King
09-19-06, 04:33
Will be in sdq oct 12-23. Has any one been to Hotel Metur or Hotel Danae recently or other suggestions of comparable hotels? Don't do the pro stuff as I have been married to two Dominicans so far. Still married to second one after ten years. I also will be looking to buy an apartment as my retirement is getting closer. Plan to spend the winters in SDQ. Any suggestions will be welcomed.

Thanks for any help you may give,

Amigo of King Kong

Helpmann
09-19-06, 12:06
i am going to sd in oct. i am staying in barcelo talanquera beach resort
in juan dolio. is this hotel chica friendly, or is there any clubs or chica places near this city (juan dolio) ?. pleace help me. this is my first time going there and i don't speek spanish.

thanks.i've been to juan dolio a dozen times, but i've never mongered there. you chose a town where you can have a nice family vacation; however, if you want to get "your freak on," you chose the wrong city. if you don't want to end up paying us$100 for a girl as ugly as your fist, you should start making plans to spend more time in boca chica and/or santo domingo. cabs can be expensive and motoconchos are dangerous on the highway. rental cars are the best option, but if you don't speak or read spanish and are squeamish when driving in nyc rush hour, you're not going to have a good time driving in the dr. perhaps you can take the bus (gua-gua) or hire a driver to take you around. you're a 20 minute drive from boca chica and a 50 minute drive from santo domingo.

btw: most resorts aren't guest friendly, and are almost never hooker friendly. also, there is a club in juan dolio called "illusions." they're women there that you can pull from in the evening.

-helpmann :)

BoricuaOnline
09-19-06, 23:44
talanquera is part of a 3 barcelo hotel complex in juan dolio: talanquera, capella and colonia tropical villas. talanquera and capella definetely non guest friendly. colonia tropical is a small 40 villas complex that is next to capella and colonia guests uses the facilities of capella since colonia do not have any " all inclusive" activity or facilities. i stayed at colonia on april and had not problem getting girls inside, just asked the guy at the lobby and he let my girl in for a few hours. i paid him a $5 tip and he was very happy. i also fucked two dominican girls that were staying at capella. there were like a dozen dominican girls staying at the capella that were looking to profit on her stay at the hotel. i fucked a slim black girl, anal included for $30 and banged a cute white dominicana for only $25. my cousing did the same with two other girls. we later had fun with the girls at the hotel disco until they got new clients. there is a club nearby, illusions but never went because of the girls i met in the hotel and the santo domingo girl that visited me at colonia. there are also some girls walking by the beach looking for clients, i saw a cute one but fucking 3 girls in 2 days were enough for me.


i am going to sd in oct. i am staying in barcelo talanquera beach resort
in juan dolio. is this hotel chica friendly, or is there any clubs or chica places near this city (juan dolio) ?. pleace help me. this is my first time going there and i don't speek spanish.

thanks.

Gas6459
09-20-06, 00:48
Stayed there a few times, in old colonial section of town, very small rooms, have to walk or take cab to get to Malecon; clean place though with good english speaking staff;

Member #4643
09-20-06, 04:25
Alexalex; am sorry I do not remember details, but Juan Dolio has a several bars/restaurants with plenty of action possible. There is a street parallel to the southern side of the highway where, if one decides to take a walk at night, there are plenty of available girls waiting for business.

While my memory does not serve me well, I can guarantee that any local cab driver could hook a guy up with a pretty woman in a very short period of time. But, you must be able to speak some Spanish.

Given the information you have provided, I recommend that you forget about Juan Dolio. You are in a chica unfriendly hotel, you don't have the language to properly sample the available ladies, and you are a stranger to the DR culture. Santo Domingo, on the other hand, is perfect for a guy like you. The casas are a little pricey, but Casa de Modelas, Casa Theresa or Remington Palace are easy to get to, even with bad Spanish, and you wil always find someone to your liking (there are always a few beautiful girls at these casas, as well as girls willing to indulge you in whatever pleasures that you wish). I have never been up north, but the northern coast sounds like it would be even better for a guy like you.

BoricuaOnline
09-21-06, 04:15
Sorry I have to correct, the Remington girl that is my friend was on vacation leave, when she returned she found that Remington was closed because of the new imposed closing time.



I talked to a Remington chica a few minutes ago, she told me that the place is open, but Monday-Friday until midnight and weekends closes at 2 am. $2,000 pesos. Best time to take a Remington chica is near midnight, she is going to stay with you until 9 am, their Remington breakfast ends at 10:00 am, if you provide her a breakfast she is going to stay with you until noon.

Cork Sucker
09-23-06, 18:40
erased....

Npaul1
09-29-06, 02:53
i am going to sd in oct. i am staying in barcelo talanquera beach resort in juan dolio. is this hotel chica friendly, or is there any clubs or chica places near this city (juan dolio) ?. pleace help me. this is my first time going there and i don't speek spanish.

thanks.when i went there about 7 years ago, i recall we were hassled at checkin, but told the clerk we were engaged to the girls and got rooms together. it was a nice place.

i had checked out an attractive girl from casa? and as i recall the girl i was with wanted me to buy her a swim suit, buy her this, buy her that, i ended up sending her back the next day to santa domingo by taxi just to get rid of her!

MIA Man
10-01-06, 01:03
Went there last night. Lot's of chicas (30+). Many beautiful.

Very easy environment. The girls ask you to buy them drinks. Offer Presidente instead. It's cheaper.

At 1: 30am they turned off the music to close down before the 2am curfew.

My buddy and I both goth girls for 2, 500 pesos each and we took them back to the Hotel for TLN. His worked out. Mine left after an hour and a half claiming she had to go take care of her kid. This after agreeing to TLN. No tip for her. Not even taxi fare.

Helpmann
10-01-06, 12:49
Mine left after an hour and a half claiming she had to go take care of her kid. This after agreeing to TLN. No tip for her. Not even taxi fare.You showed her. :rolleyes:

BTW: Why are you recommending a casa, where the girls lie to you and walk-out after an hour?


-Helpmann :confused:

Member #4643
10-01-06, 16:33
I think that all of us who have employed the services of the delicious ladies in Santo Domingo have had the same problem as Mia man. You pay the casa for the services, not the lady. Since you have paid up front, you have no built in protection should the situation not work out. Believe me, complaining to the casa will not do anything unless the chica does something illegal (like take drugs in your presence).

The place where I found it easiest to get around this scenario was at the Remington Palace, where a girl could be taken out short time after the bar was paid 2000 pesos. One could convert short time to overnight after sex; the girl was allowed to call into the house and bring the money back with her in the morning (the Remington girls all live in the casa). On those occasions where I decided to leave Remingtons before midnight and thus agreed for TLN, I paid 4000 pesos upfront. With one exception, the girl always left at or before 4 am.

My way of assuring that the chicas spend the night is to offer them a fixed amount as a tip (propina) for sex in the morning. The ones with kids will still want to leave early, but that's OK with me as I find sleep comes easily after a 7 am encounter.

In conclusion, this is my general rule for taking girls in casas back with me.

-Always take the chica home short time. Never arrange for long time in advance.
-If the sex is good, then ask her if she wants to stay the night for the customary extra fee. I suspect that most of the casas will let her stay as long as she has the money to pay their share in the morning. This portion of her earnings should be paid at the time of her departure, although she may insist you pay then.
-If you are forced to pay the remainder up front, offer an extra 1000 pesos ($30) as a tip for a good morning performance. You should specify what you mean as a good performance (I always ask for BBBJCIM as the finishing deed). Its an extra $30, but I don't mind.

Bottom line: if there is no good reason for the girl to be present in your hotel room when you wake up in the morning, the odds are very good she will not be there.

ps. girls from the casino are far less expensive than the casas, and gems can be found there if you are patient. It is no big deal to negotiate TLN with them from the beginning with payment in the morning. If they insist they want the cash up front, go short time and then negotiate the extra time, just like you would do in a casa.

Marzo
10-01-06, 21:24
Im an American who has an apartment in Santo Domingo for work. It is centrally located and clean. I'm here quite a lot.

I have a spare bedroom, double bed. I'd consider letting you use it, on certain conditions.

Bring me a girl or have your girl give me quick before you begin.

Other than that, no charge, and I wouldnt interfere in your business.

Marzo
10-01-06, 21:39
Haven´t checked out Trio or Nowhere Bar yet.Nowhere on Thursday nights -- Ladies Nights -- is full of tail.

Ykg3000
10-02-06, 03:31
Are there alot of nice massage parlors in the city? I love getting massages in places like these in the mid morning. Also are there any older women that are interested in making a little side money from us mongers. I like the chicas young and old. I do not discriminate, lol.

Grand Pollo
10-03-06, 03:00
Bring me a girl or have your girl give me quick before you begin.

Other than that, no charge, and I wouldnt interfere in your business.

This is a creepy offer at best, the 2nd part. Use a hotel guys, you have to stay somewhere anyway and there are enough that won't hassle you vs. sloppy 2nd's with this deal.

IFRpilot99
10-03-06, 16:16
Actually suspicious wording, I question whether he's actually American. Can you smell 'ambush'? LOL


Im an American who has an apartment in Santo Domingo for work. It is centrally located and clean. I'm here quite a lot.

I have a spare bedroom, double bed. I'd consider letting you use it, on certain conditions.

Bring me a girl or have your girl give me quick before you begin.

Other than that, no charge, and I wouldnt interfere in your business.

Marzo
10-03-06, 22:07
You're right. As soon as I posted it I realized it was stupid and would sound suspicious anyway. As you might be able to tell, Im a brand new poster, so had no idea how to edit it or if I could even edit it.

But yeah, I am an American. How can I prove it? Talk about NFL trivia or something? Jim Kelly went to four Super Bowls? LOL

Anyway, I meant to offer the room, and only added the sloppy seconds bit as an afterthought. It probably *wouldnt* be smart to use a room from a stranger, so feel free not to take me up on it. Just thought as a new poster Id try to be helpful.

Cheers.


Actually suspicious wording, I question whether he's actually American. Can you smell 'ambush'? LOL

Marzo
10-03-06, 22:28
Stayed at Danae in June while apartment hunting in Gazcue. It was okay. I had communicated with a female via email to make reservations and set a price. Then on arrival, the male tried to bump my price 100 pesos. When I corrected him, he had kind of a pissy attitude.

But overall, the room was clean and my stuff was safe. The front porch is nice in the evenings.


Will be in sdq oct 12-23. Has any one been to Hotel Metur or Hotel Danae recently or other suggestions of comparable hotels? Don't do the pro stuff as I have been married to two Dominicans so far. Still married to second one after ten years. I also will be looking to buy an apartment as my retirement is getting closer. Plan to spend the winters in SDQ. Any suggestions will be welcomed.

Thanks for any help you may give,

Amigo of King Kong

Ford
10-04-06, 22:59
Marzo,

You are not supposed to be soliciting on this board, only asking questions and offering information on how to find woman for sex. We are all very fortunate that Jackson has given us this forum so we can share our thoughts and our experiences.

You build up your credentials on this board by the number of substantive and meaningful posts, not by your knowledge of professional football.

How can you convince board members of your intentions? Post detailed, meaningful information about how to find woman for sex! If you have information on one country or two, great! I've shared info on about 14 different countries, (so far) that's even better! :)

Once you have prepared and submitted your 200th report, I will pm you about your apartment and ask about which dates there is availability and such. Anything short of this is not "creepy" it's perverse.

cheers mates...............

Marzo
10-04-06, 23:06
Youre clearly some sort of upperclassman around here, so Im not picking a fight. But I wasnt soliciting, I was offering help. And the football joke (lame as it might have been) wasnt an attempt to build credentials as a monger, only to respond in jest to the charge that I wasnt an American.

Sorry to erred in offering the apartment. I would think the fact that you found the offer "perverse" enough to keep you away even after 200 posts.

Slainte.


Marzo,

You are not supposed to be soliciting on this board, only asking questions and offering information on how to find woman for sex. We are all very fortunate that Jackson has given us this forum so we can share our thoughts and our experiences.

You build up your credentials on this board by the number of substantive and meaningful posts, not by your knowledge of professional football.

How can you convince board members of your intentions? Post detailed, meaningful information about how to find woman for sex! If you have information on one country or two, great! I've shared info on about 14 different countries, (so far) that's even better! :)

Once you have prepared and submitted your 200th report, I will pm you about your apartment and ask about which dates there is availability and such. Anything short of this is not "creepy" it's perverse.

Cheers mates.

Curry
10-05-06, 00:18
I think we may have all said something stupid here at some point and realized itafter the fact. My question is this.Does the curfew apply to pick up joints like Henry's?I always like to shoot in the barrel over there.Are police cracking down on SWs in the capitol.In BC is the curfew working to our advantage or against us? Contemplating a November trip and just wanna have a feel for the recent changes. Oh yeah.Is BOOTYS still open? Been a couple of months since last I was in DR and as most of you all know businesses, especially discos,can be open one second and closed the next.Thanx guys!

Fantasy
10-05-06, 05:05
Not Hardly, He is the Professor! Ford is to mongering, as Michael is to Basketball. (only he's still going strong). Out of 800 posts, I have only seen three negative posts by him. If i were you, I would pick a new screen name and start over.

PlatinumCastle
10-05-06, 13:31
Not Hardly, He is the Professor! Ford is to mongering, as Michael is to Basketball. (only he's still going strong). Out of 800 posts, I have only seen three negative posts by him. If i were you, I would pick a new screen name and start over.Smartass not dumbass, that was a good one! To reiterate what Fantasy is saying about Ford, I have had the experience of being very ummmmm controversial on this board and had run in's with just about everyone but I must say that "Ford" has always been how shall I say, the most comfortable person to have a disagreement or conversation with even though we may not have been on the same page. That being said I think Fantasy may be right on about Ford, however I don't know what all the hubub is! What Marzo posted didn't look to bad to me but then again, I ain't Michael!

TpC

Marzo
10-05-06, 22:50
Fantasy about Ford:


Not Hardly, He is the Professor! Ford is to mongering, as Michael is to Basketball. (only he's still going strong).Ford about Fantasy (from the Panama City forum):


I know a guy on this board who is as sharp a traveler and hobbyist as there is, anywhere! This guy has probably forgotten as much about the hobby as I've ever known!

"If you ever traveled with him (I went on to say) buckle up and take good notes, because its truly fascinating how his brain works!

"Fantasy". My travel buddy."Wow, is it like that? If you guys have each other -- who needs mongering?

(P.S. That is what it looks like when I want to start a fight! Start over? Why? Cause I offered use of my apartment and somebody didnt like it? This board can't be *that* sensitive can it?)

Back to the ladies:

An earlier poster queried about Club Nowhere in the Zona Colonial (on Hostos). I mentioned thursday nights are ladies night. There is usually a cluster of Dominicanas outside the door by around 10pm, whom the bouncer will not let inside. If you are American the doors open wide for you. Take a few minutes before your approach and pick a girl from the cluster to bring in on your arm. Almost guaranteed she is yours for the night if you want. If she does ditch you, there is so much action upstairs you can replace her.

Ykg3000
10-06-06, 02:24
Are there alot of nice massage parlors in the city? I love getting massages in places like these in the mid morning. Also are there any older women that are interested in making a little side money from us mongers. I like the chicas young and old. I do not discriminate, lol.Does anyone know of any massage parlors in Santo Domingo? I luv a good rub and tug!

Alexalex
10-06-06, 03:02
Thank you Npaul1, Forest, boricuaonline, Helpmann for your help. I cancelled my room there and I booked my room in Mercure Comercial Santo Domingo. I got it for $50 a night. if any one has any info on good places where I could get some good GFE's in SD, will be real helpful

Thank you very much,

Alexalex

PlatinumCastle
10-06-06, 14:49
Fantasy about Ford:

Ford about Fantasy (from the Panama City forum):

Wow, is it like that? If you guys have each other -- who needs mongering?

(P.S. That is what it looks like when I want to start a fight! Start over? Why? Cause I offered use of my apartment and somebody didnt like it? This board can't be *that* sensitive can it?)

Back to the ladies:

An earlier poster queried about Club Nowhere in the Zona Colonial (on Hostos). I mentioned thursday nights are ladies night. There is usually a cluster of Dominicanas outside the door by around 10pm, whom the bouncer will not let inside. If you are American the doors open wide for you. Take a few minutes before your approach and pick a girl from the cluster to bring in on your arm. Almost guaranteed she is yours for the night if you want. If she does ditch you, there is so much action upstairs you can replace her.I must say that this is an interesting dilemma you guys are having. First is this board is NOT only for places to find women for sex or whatever they said. It is for information! Sex being the main topic. Useful information is always good and you never know who wants what where. I have found personally many things besides where to go for sex on this board, I have found many different people and friends and women and sex was not the topic or main concern. As everyone can see there are many different types of people on this board and just because someone says one thing or the other doesn't make it so. The main thing is don't judge others because you don't like what they are saying, just be on your way because the next fool might use that info. Like for instance I have nothing to do with this convo, but I can jump in and give my uneducated mongering opinion seeing as you seem like you were just trying to give out info on something other then sex! Hmmm who knows maybe I was just board, don't know but Marzo do your thing and don't take things personally on this board because they never are. We are all the same, no one better and no one worse, I don't care how many posts you have up!

Now about SD, I went to visit a friend out there and we went to a club and they wouldn't let my black ass in because they thought I was black or dominican or whatever! I thought it was funny and just left and went to another club. I don't remember the name of the club but it was about 10 minutes from the Hilton, and you have to walk up stairs from outside to get in. I was with CS69 so maybe he could help with the name. Anyways we went to another club and spent $500 and partied til they closed at 2am of course then went back to the spot and hung out all night with the chica's I brought up and some we picked up from the club. Needless to say it was a good night!

TpC

Fantasy
10-07-06, 02:55
Ford and I surely don't need mongers like you. We offer our knowledge and help without having to fuck your girlfriend first. Ford and I get numerous p.m.'s every day asking for info. We give the information freely and with excitement to help fellow mongers. If I praise him or he praises me on this board, it might just give a beginner monger the confidence to trust our advice or information. By no means are we looking to benifit in any way from it, and neither of us give a shit if anyone follows our advice. As far as us "having each other", I never remember offering to share my apartment with him or anyone else for that matter. Now, I am returning to the business at hand, finding chicas to love!!! If you want to continue flaming long time members of this community, be my guest......................

Marzo
10-07-06, 14:50
Was out taking a ride last night and found myself in front of Lapsus. (Rain started and I was on a motorcycle). I pulled onto the sidewalk under some trees, debating whether or not I would go in.

I actually ended up in conversation with a guy named Juan who works the door at a place next door called "Cafeteria Aurora". He was a good guy -- brought me a couple of free beers -- and told me the girls in Aurora a worth a visit. There are rooms in back.

In the end, I didnt have the time to check it out, but I may tonight. Anybody been in? If you check it out, definitely ask for Juan.

Azul Man
10-09-06, 18:53
Does anyone know a tour guide in Santo Domingo By the Name of Fabo?

If so please let me know where I can find him, and his cell# also if you have it.

Ykg3000
10-10-06, 02:03
Hey Guys,

I am heading to santo domingo on Nov.22 for a week. I will be staying at the hotel la residence on calle danae in Gazcue Santo domingo. Where are some nice dance clubs to go to in the city? I really plan on having a great time. Is anyone here going to be in the city during november? It would be cool to have some fellow mongers to talk to.

Marzo
10-10-06, 22:32
There's a similar post below, but check out Club Nowhere in the Colonial Zone on Thursday night for Ladies Night.

Check out Pure on Lincoln for a smaller room, fewer tourists. Hardly any, actually. (And your best bet for tail is to be the only non-Dominican in the club).

Monte Cristo on Churchill, which is usually packed. A bit of an older crowd -- often older married men with their young mistresses.

After hours, try Om in the Colonial Zone on Salome (I think).

Most of these places fill up Thurs-Saturday nights after 11pm or so. The new ordinances have maybe pushed things up a bit. Don't wear ratty jeans or sneakers, though if you look foreign they will let you in no matter what. The Dominicans will wear their finest clothes.

Expect a mix of techno, hiphop, reggaeton, salsa and merengue, depending on the club. Expect it to be very, very loud... so meeting girls involves shouting. Big pluses with the ladies are an ability to dance and an ability to speak spanish. Failing that, be prepared to buy them expensive drinks.

A taxi driver should be able to find any of these places for you, and coming from Danae, dont pay more than 150 pesos -- or 200 pesos if it's late at night and you are grateful for the ride. The drivers may also know of places I dont. Have fun and good luck!


Hey Guys,

I am heading to santo domingo on Nov.22 for a week. I will be staying at the hotel la residence on calle danae in Gazcue Santo domingo. Where are some nice dance clubs to go to in the city? I really plan on having a great time. Is anyone here going to be in the city during november? It would be cool to have some fellow mongers to talk to.

Alexalex
10-11-06, 01:18
I will be in SD day after tomorrow. This is my first time there. I was wondering if it is safe to take any taxi to my hotel.

Please help me out

Thank you

Amigo of King
10-11-06, 10:08
Alexalex,

I will be arriving insdq on thurs at 2:15. I will be renting car then driving to city. If you are on the same flight from PR can give you lift if you like.

Amigo of King Kong

Alexalex
10-12-06, 03:19
I will be in SD 1pm and I will be staying at The Mecure Hotel. we will keep in touch.


Alexalex,

I will be arriving insdq on thurs at 2:15. I will be renting car then driving to city. If you are on the same flight from PR can give you lift if you like.

Amigo of King Kong

Prtyr2
10-18-06, 04:29
Good info. Monte Cristo however is off of lincoln not churchhill.



There's a similar post below, but check out Club Nowhere in the Colonial Zone on Thursday night for Ladies Night.

Check out Pure on Lincoln for a smaller room, fewer tourists. Hardly any, actually. (And your best bet for tail is to be the only non-Dominican in the club).

Monte Cristo on Churchill, which is usually packed. A bit of an older crowd -- often older married men with their young mistresses.

After hours, try Om in the Colonial Zone on Salome (I think).

Most of these places fill up Thurs-Saturday nights after 11pm or so. The new ordinances have maybe pushed things up a bit. Don't wear ratty jeans or sneakers, though if you look foreign they will let you in no matter what. The Dominicans will wear their finest clothes.

Expect a mix of techno, hiphop, reggaeton, salsa and merengue, depending on the club. Expect it to be very, very loud... so meeting girls involves shouting. Big pluses with the ladies are an ability to dance and an ability to speak spanish. Failing that, be prepared to buy them expensive drinks.

A taxi driver should be able to find any of these places for you, and coming from Danae, dont pay more than 150 pesos -- or 200 pesos if it's late at night and you are grateful for the ride. The drivers may also know of places I dont. Have fun and good luck!

Prtyr2
10-18-06, 04:31
I live in santo domingo so there is a great chance I will be in town. I live a short walk from hotel residencia and hang out with a few guests and taxi drivers from residencia.



Hey Guys,

I am heading to santo domingo on Nov.22 for a week. I will be staying at the hotel la residence on calle danae in Gazcue Santo domingo. Where are some nice dance clubs to go to in the city? I really plan on having a great time. Is anyone here going to be in the city during november? It would be cool to have some fellow mongers to talk to.

Gpiper
10-19-06, 01:13
Casa Modelos-went there last fri. nite around 1 am. my 1st trip in 3 years! Maybe 15 girls. Only 2 rated a 6, almost every one else was a dog! Nothing like 3 years ago when there was better quality. No prices quoted. I hi-tailed it out of there without drinking 1 beer and headed over to...

Casa Teresa-arrived 1:30am. 12 girls half of them rated 7 or 8 the rest a 6. Again no prices given. I got 2 cell phone #s, 1 from a hot 8.5 morenita and 1 from a hot 8.0 shapely blanquita without a problem and will follow up with both of them soon.

Gin House Cafe Bar (formerly Cisne) on 21 Pasteur street-went there 2 fridays ago. At least 30 women. I heard this place approaches 60 girls at times! There are 2 young looking ladies that work the register behind the bar here. One is a 9 and the other an 8.5. They both told me they were in their early 20´s but looked like 19. They are both real hot and supposedly unavailable after being asked. Perhaps they would change their mind if the offer was 3,000+?!Also, more patrons than Sky Bar which is right next door. This casa is also is more extravagant looking than Sky Bar. The club quoted 2,500 pesos for ST take out and 2,000 pesos for ST there. Many 6 and 7´s. A few 8´s. I got the cell phone # real quick from a hot morenita and did an incall with her at my crib the following sunday for just 1,300 pesos and gave her 150 pesos for cabfare back. She stayed 2 hours for a heated multi' pop session to include BBBJ. She had a good attitude and provided a quality, non-rushed service.

Sky Bar (formerly Casa Elegancia)-on 17 Pasteur street right next to Gin House. 12-14 girls there. Went there a few times in recent weeks. Never crowded. The bartenders there are friendly and are sisters and range between 6.5-7.5. Did take out about 3 weeks ago on a weeknite with Paty, an 8 with nice tone legs and a tight ass. She´s a hot looking india and is 19. Took her to my crib at closing time around midnight for 2,500 pesos. Told me she would stay for 3 hours. She provided a rushed service including BBBJ, but was still a good bone. I reluctantly gave her a 300 pesos tip after 50 minutes. I would not repeat with her. Her cell # is available for select Regular and Senior members.

Mystik-right next to Gin House is a disco that was closed when I went there last fri. nite.

Marzo
10-21-06, 05:11
Visited tonight. I was suprised walking in. There must have been 30-40 girls and maybe five guys. I probably saw six or seven girls that were 8's+, and maybe six or seven that were unattractive. Everyone one else was in between. Lots of big titties on girls that arent fat, which I am a fan of.

After I got my drink I sat on a couch. Practically the whole place swarmed me. I had never experienced that. Thirty sexy girls, rubbing on their tits, rolling down their skirts as they danced. I had resolved to take my time, so I sat still.

Slowly, the crowd around me thinned out. I took a stool by the bar where I had a good view and waited. About a half dozen girls stopped by to talk, one at a time.

I started talking to a girl named Ana who told me she was from Nagua. She was one of the few girls who lived outside the premises. Her friend, Teresita, came by. Ana was a cute brunnette. Slim, medium tits, very light skinned. Looked about 22 and told me the same. Her friend Teresa, also from Nagua, was a few inches taller -- maybe 5'7'', though its hard to tell in the heels they wear. She has braces on her teeth. Teresa's tits were outstanding, but I didnt like her attitude. She immediately straddled my knee and started rubbing my chest, etc. When I gently pushed her off (remember, I wanted to take my time and not committ), she rolled her eyes and acted bitchy.

If she was already acting bitchy and put-out, I could only imagine what she would be like after I paid. So I shook off Teresa. Ana disappeared for awhile and I looked for the first girl that caught my eye. She truly looked *barely* eighteen. Very slim, pettite, red hair. She walked by me a few times until I said, "my love, you dont want to talk to me?" She paused and you could tell she was conflicted. To be honest, I hadnt seen her around any of the men that were coming in. I couldnt believe I was actually being rejected by a working girl! I suppose I could have pressed the issue, but half the fun is at least convincing myself the girl is into it.

I let her go, and finally called Ana back over. We sat on a couch and she rubbed against me. She asked me what I like. Everything. I indicated mouth, pussy, ass. She told me she likes everything too. "You like over here?" she said, pulling my hand against her ass. I nodded and she told me "Me too."

That was all it took! She told me the price was 2500 pesos whether we stay in-house or go to my place. I decided to stay. Why spend even more on a cab for her, etc. She told me we could go upstairs or in the back. I asked her if there was a difference and she said no.

So we went upstairs. This was a small mistake. Upstairs is where the girls live, and we ended up in a kind of dorm room. There were four sets of bunk beds. The lower bed was very hard to do anything creative in, and the top bunk was a climb.

She made to take out condoms at once, but I didnt give her a chace. My dick was in her mouth immediately. She gave great oral -- attentive and wet and hungry. We struggled for awhile with positioning. The bunk beds suck.

Finally, climbing on top and using the condom, we had missionary and doggy. I considered putting it in her ass, but for whatever reason didnt.

She kept asking for my "milk".

Maybe forty minutes later I did my best to provide, on her chest and pussy. She only requested that I avoid the face.

Another problem with the upstairs rooms -- there wasnt any clean up supplies. She ended up using some poor girl's towel and then returning it, soiled.

I was out the door.

Gallego
10-21-06, 09:21
Have been a few times at Restaurante Paco en El Conde. Good and home made fast food and always some nice waiting to pass your day with. For one nice girl in particular send me a pm.

Prtyr2
10-22-06, 03:26
yeah the sign out front says Gin house but that is because the guys making the sign read the notes wrong. Think about it if you write a lower case r next to an l and you write sloppy. . . .you get gin house.

The place is run by a cuban guy that lived in miami for years. I have heard that Mystic may reopen soon but it was closed as of last week.

Girl House used to be calles cisne back in the day. Owned for a short time by an american and before that by a dominicana. There is a little bar on the Melcon next too Doll House called Vaqueros wanted or cowboys wanted. Tiny little place with karaoke. . . .. the woman running the place is the woman that used to own cisne back in the day.

Prtyr2
10-22-06, 03:37
There are a ton of Piano Bars in santo domingo where they have attractive waitresses that attend to the clients. These are not casas and there are no salidas etc. You can get girls to go out with you but they don't have to if they don't want. If they like you, you can make a date.

In these places you will often times get a barmaid that just takes care of you and your party. You can flirt with them, danced with them etc. Lots of older married dominican business men go to these places when they don't want to cheat on the wife but want some fairly innocent company etc.

Here are a few of them:

Mamayas - way up on Tiradentes. A few hot barmaids and they have live tipico a few times per week. They have been there over 40 years

xoxoxox- around the corner from Mamayas smaller place but again with some hot chicas. My first night there I was just watching a ballgame and my waitress was very agressive and wanted to meet me after work. I passed as I live with my novia and was not interested. There is one really tall chica with nice tits and and she wears glasses. I know her from somewhere but can't remember where.

Rhumba Bar on 27 de febrero - have not been here in a while but they normally have some nice looking barstaff. One time they had a live combo singing ballads.

Jotas bar - probably my favorite as of now because I became buddies with a few barmaids. . . .although the last time I stopped in. none of my buddies were there and there was an all new group. Located on nunez de caceres just north of Bolivar.

Plaza Caribe - in a not so great area across from the seedy strip club Bon Sua and around the block prom car wash pirot. Car wash pirot has some cuties and Plaza Caribe has some talent from time to time. Probably easier to hook up here as it is a few notches below the others.

Terraza Polin in villa juana - same type place as Plaza caribe have seen a few gems.


I would only recommend these places if you prefer a challenge over a sure thing and would not recommend Plaza Caribe and Terraza Polin for newbies to head to alone. if you can go with a buddy or a dominican you will be in better shape. These two places don't get many gringo customers. the other places you should be fine.

There are also some sports bar type places like eagles, la base and plaza rachely with lots of waitresses but less personal attention. Again you can score numbers and dates but it is not necessarily on the menu etc.

Interdude
10-27-06, 14:16
Marzo,

Is Ana a short girl with long hair? Sounds very familiar to a girl I try to see every time I'm down there. She used to work at Remmington, but now works there. Do you have any pics?


Visited tonight. I was suprised walking in. There must have been 30-40 girls and maybe five guys. I probably saw six or seven girls that were 8's+, and maybe six or seven that were unattractive. Everyone one else was in between. Lots of big titties on girls that arent fat, which I am a fan of.

After I got my drink I sat on a couch. Practically the whole place swarmed me. I had never experienced that. Thirty sexy girls, rubbing on their tits, rolling down their skirts as they danced. I had resolved to take my time, so I sat still.

Slowly, the crowd around me thinned out. I took a stool by the bar where I had a good view and waited. About a half dozen girls stopped by to talk, one at a time.

I started talking to a girl named Ana who told me she was from Nagua. She was one of the few girls who lived outside the premises. Her friend, Teresita, came by. Ana was a cute brunnette. Slim, medium tits, very light skinned. Looked about 22 and told me the same. Her friend Teresa, also from Nagua, was a few inches taller -- maybe 5'7'', though its hard to tell in the heels they wear. She has braces on her teeth. Teresa's tits were outstanding, but I didnt like her attitude. She immediately straddled my knee and started rubbing my chest, etc. When I gently pushed her off (remember, I wanted to take my time and not committ), she rolled her eyes and acted bitchy.

If she was already acting bitchy and put-out, I could only imagine what she would be like after I paid. So I shook off Teresa. Ana disappeared for awhile and I looked for the first girl that caught my eye. She truly looked *barely* eighteen. Very slim, pettite, red hair. She walked by me a few times until I said, "my love, you dont want to talk to me?" She paused and you could tell she was conflicted. To be honest, I hadnt seen her around any of the men that were coming in. I couldnt believe I was actually being rejected by a working girl! I suppose I could have pressed the issue, but half the fun is at least convincing myself the girl is into it.

I let her go, and finally called Ana back over. We sat on a couch and she rubbed against me. She asked me what I like. Everything. I indicated mouth, pussy, ass. She told me she likes everything too. "You like over here?" she said, pulling my hand against her ass. I nodded and she told me "Me too."

That was all it took! She told me the price was 2500 pesos whether we stay in-house or go to my place. I decided to stay. Why spend even more on a cab for her, etc. She told me we could go upstairs or in the back. I asked her if there was a difference and she said no.

So we went upstairs. This was a small mistake. Upstairs is where the girls live, and we ended up in a kind of dorm room. There were four sets of bunk beds. The lower bed was very hard to do anything creative in, and the top bunk was a climb.

She made to take out condoms at once, but I didnt give her a chace. My dick was in her mouth immediately. She gave great oral -- attentive and wet and hungry. We struggled for awhile with positioning. The bunk beds suck.

Finally, climbing on top and using the condom, we had missionary and doggy. I considered putting it in her ass, but for whatever reason didnt.

She kept asking for my "milk".

Maybe forty minutes later I did my best to provide, on her chest and pussy. She only requested that I avoid the face.

Another problem with the upstairs rooms -- there wasnt any clean up supplies. She ended up using some poor girl's towel and then returning it, soiled.

I was out the door.

Marzo
10-27-06, 19:41
No pics, sadly. She is probably 5'5''. Hard to tell with heels. I didn't bring a camera. Does anyone know the policy?

La Isla
10-28-06, 19:48
Anybody ever stay in the Hotel Maison Gautreaux? Its very reasonable at 1400 pesos a night and Moon Travel Books says its pretty good. It's only a block in from the beach behind the InterContinental.

Would like to hear any first hand reports.

Thanks

Mikecnyc
10-28-06, 21:42
Hi guys,

A quick question: Does the mercure have a pool? I seem to think not from reading past posts and no pictures on the website, but orbitz says yes.

I'll be in SDQ via STI next weekend and wanted to book either the Intercontinental or Mercure.

Thanks,

MC

BoricuaOnline
10-29-06, 16:00
No Pool at Mercure, just the lobby with its restaurant, bar and the rooms. Good for our mongering business , best deals on room prices if you book directly on their webpage.



Hi guys,

A quick question: Does the mercure have a pool? I seem to think not from reading past posts and no pictures on the website, but orbitz says yes.

I'll be in SDQ via STI next weekend and wanted to book either the Intercontinental or Mercure.

Thanks,

MC

Marzo
10-29-06, 18:27
I'm a newbie and have taken a few hits on some ill-advised posts. But I will risk it again. Couldn't there be a separate thread for hotel/airfare posts? Half the board seems to be hotel-related.

And an outright lock plus a public shaming for posting in the photo gallery w/o photos?

:]

Mikecnyc
10-29-06, 19:37
Thanks. I figured Orbitz had the wrong information.

So it looks like I'll be staying at the Intercontinental. I've read different things about it being chica friendly, which to me indicates as long as you don't bring back a 50 peso ***** you should be okay.

Bkk212
11-02-06, 00:51
Does anyone have any information on Hotel Gatreaux and Hotel Occidental El Embajador .

Are they girl friendly? Are they close to the night life?

Bkk212
11-03-06, 17:55
Hi Guys,

Does anyone have any idea if nightlife shuts down between Xmas and New Years?

Or is it business as usual in SDQ?

Margarita
11-03-06, 22:01
Does anyone have any information on Hotel Gatreaux and Hotel Occidental El Embajador .

Are they girl friendly? Are they close to the night life?Hotel Occidental El Embajador is fine.

My advise is that you reserve for 2 and make it clear while checking in that second guest will come later on.

If you come back late at night with a girl they will try to make her register, if the do they WILL charge approx 25 USD. You have to state it very FIRMLY and CLEARLY that the room is already booked for two and you are not going to accept an overcharge.

This said they will either let you in or take the chica card and make the registration, if the latter happens prepare to argue the day after in order not be charged, as the room has been booked as double.

That said, is a wondeful place to be, it is reasonably girlfriendly and the breakfast is unbeatable.

Ask a room far from the air conditioning engines as they are quite noisy.

Enjoy

Fantasy
11-04-06, 01:36
The status of this hotel has been reported in both directions. I have stayed here about 15 times. I have never ever been stopped or questioned here. They have never ask a girl who was "on my arm" for anything. I usually have a car and park in the underground garage. Use the back steps to the lobby and head straight for the elevators. This does not require a trip by the front desk. If you bring in a street girl who is dressed like one, yes, you might have a delay.

J Wadd
11-04-06, 07:47
Hola, JWadd here from the Brasilian board. I'll be the D.R. (probably Santo Domingo -- but not sure) at the very end of this month for a few days. Anyone interested in hooking up give me a shout out.

I'm an old hand at this thing around the world but a first-timer in the D.R. Give a search for some of my pics over in the Brasil section.

Peace out,
JW

Berto180
11-05-06, 20:52
[QUOTE=Bkk212]Does anyone have any information on Hotel Gatreaux and Hotel Occidental El Embajador .

Hotel Gatreaux is cheap, ok folks and girl friendly, but alittle claustophobic for me.
Bests!

Bolongo
11-05-06, 21:53
Does anyone know anyting about Viking's Exotic Resort? What island is it on etc. Is it worth it?

Curry
11-07-06, 00:38
Any one ever here of this place. What is it? Where is it?

Coole Mr
11-07-06, 03:00
Curry,

There is a El Bohem in Puerto Plata, similar to Remington palace not as many ladies. Beautiful ladies but there is a Salida.

Npaul1
11-07-06, 03:05
Its on a corner, well lit up, close to Crystals near the ocean. Its fairly well know, I'm sure the taxi drivers can find it.

USASexGuideHo
11-07-06, 05:59
The following link has a number of published articles:
http://www.cat69.com/news/press.html

Price packages range from $4,900 to $7,900 apparently.

Mikecnyc
11-13-06, 04:33
Hi, guys,

New to the board, but not the game. Here is a quick update from my recent 3 days to SD.

Stayed at the Intercontinental. I was able to bring up a chica the first night no problem. The second night, the guy at the front desk gave me a hard time. I argued a little and security came over. They ended up just making a copy of her cedula and letting her up. I didn't try to bring up a girl the third night. I would not reccomend the hotel for mongering. It is a very nice place to stay though.

Girl House- Right around the corner from the hotel. They had about 15 girls workig, mostly 7s and a couple of 8/9s, depending on your taste. I pulled a nice girl out around 1: 30AM Friday for 2, 500. That is what she asked, I didn't bother negotiating. We went back to the Intecontinental, I gambled a little with her by my side and then we went to my room for the night. No problems with her rushing to leave. We woke up around 9: 00AM, I took her to the breakfast buffet and we parted ways.

Case Modelos- I went there around 10: 30PM on Saterday. There were about 10 girls working. Two or three really hot ones. Fun atmoesphere girls, drinking dancing, etc. I had a couple of drinks with one, but decided to check out a few places because it was early. In retrospect they had the best girls that night. Didn't talk prices.

Casa Azul- Had a cab driver take me there Friday night. Around midnight the place was dead. No guys in the place. I had ordered a drink before I realized the place was dead. I proceeded to have my drink while being stared and smiled at by 8 women standing in a semi circle around me sitting on a couch with my cab driver. It was one of those DR moments too funny to forget. Girls were mostly 5's and 6's, maybe a soft 7 or two. Didn't talk money.

Lapsus- This was actually a nice place to hang out. They had a stripper and a nice bolero singer the Friday I was there. They had around 10 girls working. I spoke to a few just to pass the time. Didn't talk money because I knew I wasn't ready to pull one out yet. While it was a nice place to hang out, my 6th monger sense tells me the chicas would not be good. A little too much english and I could easily see them asking for a lot of money then jetting. I have no first hand knowledge that would be the case, again, just my feeling.

Casa Theresa- $5, 000 for TLN on Saterday night. A really cute one got the better of me and I went along without negotiation. Sorry guys, I usually try to do my part to keep prices in line. There were about 20 or more girls working. Decent music and decent chicas.

Casinos- The jaragua had A LOT of girls working Saterday night. I would say over 20. A couple worth talking to, but I had a chica with me from Casa Theresa already. The casino in the intercontinental also had 2 or 3 girls working on Friday during the day and night. There was a real hot girl there on Sunday night. I'm not sure if she was workng, but I was too much of a pussy to find out. I think her name was carolina.

I also spent a night in Santiago. I will try to post a brief report on that thread, but briefly, I went to casa blanca and got a nice morena for $1, 500 TLN.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Rmfldnsqjt
11-13-06, 17:40
Hello,

I have some questions.

I want to know what time the nightclubs (like Lapsus, Casa de Modelo and so on) open and close.

And who can recommend good place nightclub, masage shop, the price and pretty girl?

I went to Lapsus and Casa de Modelos.

In my opinion, Lapsus is better than Casa de Modelo, because the Lapsus is kind.

In Lapsus, the 4~5 girls are beautiful. The take out price is 2,500 DR$ and the girls wanted go out the motel after 2 hours.

Later, I will go any place this week, and then I will write again.

Rmfldnsqjt
11-13-06, 17:47
I went to Lapsus.

3~4 women are pretty and all kind.

The take out price is 2,500 DR$, and they wanted go out from motel after 2 hours.

I want to know what time the nightclub (like Casa de Modelos , Remington Palace and so on) open and close.

And find good masage shop or good nightclub, the price and pretty girls.

After I will write about my experience.

Bye all

Rmfldnsqjt
11-13-06, 17:55
Hello good man.

I went to the lapsus, there are 3~4 pretty girls.

All kind and I felt comportable.

For take out need 2,500 DR$, they went out from hotel after 2 hours.

My questions are that I find good massage shop and the price, name of pretty girl.

And what time do the nightclub and massage shop open and close?

Thank you.


Hi, guys,

New to the board, but not the game. Here is a quick update from my recent 3 days to SD.

Stayed at the Intercontinental. I was able to bring up a chica the first night no problem. The second night, the guy at the front desk gave me a hard time. I argued a little and security came over. They ended up just making a copy of her cedula and letting her up. I didn't try to bring up a girl the third night. I would not reccomend the hotel for mongering. It is a very nice place to stay though.

Girl House- Right around the corner from the hotel. They had about 15 girls workig, mostly 7s and a couple of 8/9s, depending on your taste. I pulled a nice girl out around 1: 30AM Friday for 2, 500. That is what she asked, I didn't bother negotiating. We went back to the Intecontinental, I gambled a little with her by my side and then we went to my room for the night. No problems with her rushing to leave. We woke up around 9: 00AM, I took her to the breakfast buffet and we parted ways.

Case Modelos- I went there around 10: 30PM on Saterday. There were about 10 girls working. Two or three really hot ones. Fun atmoesphere girls, drinking dancing, etc. I had a couple of drinks with one, but decided to check out a few places because it was early. In retrospect they had the best girls that night. Didn't talk prices.

Casa Azul- Had a cab driver take me there Friday night. Around midnight the place was dead. No guys in the place. I had ordered a drink before I realized the place was dead. I proceeded to have my drink while being stared and smiled at by 8 women standing in a semi circle around me sitting on a couch with my cab driver. It was one of those DR moments too funny to forget. Girls were mostly 5's and 6's, maybe a soft 7 or two. Didn't talk money.

Lapsus- This was actually a nice place to hang out. They had a stripper and a nice bolero singer the Friday I was there. They had around 10 girls working. I spoke to a few just to pass the time. Didn't talk money because I knew I wasn't ready to pull one out yet. While it was a nice place to hang out, my 6th monger sense tells me the chicas would not be good. A little too much english and I could easily see them asking for a lot of money then jetting. I have no first hand knowledge that would be the case, again, just my feeling.

Casa Theresa- $5, 000 for TLN on Saterday night. A really cute one got the better of me and I went along without negotiation. Sorry guys, I usually try to do my part to keep prices in line. There were about 20 or more girls working. Decent music and decent chicas.

Casinos- The jaragua had A LOT of girls working Saterday night. I would say over 20. A couple worth talking to, but I had a chica with me from Casa Theresa already. The casino in the intercontinental also had 2 or 3 girls working on Friday during the day and night. There was a real hot girl there on Sunday night. I'm not sure if she was workng, but I was too much of a pussy to find out. I think her name was carolina.

I also spent a night in Santiago. I will try to post a brief report on that thread, but briefly, I went to casa blanca and got a nice morena for $1, 500 TLN.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aeilla
11-18-06, 04:41
I am going to SD in Febuary for the first time. Could someone please post some links to some motels under $40 a night.

Thanks

Score77
11-18-06, 22:45
Is Remongtons still open? I had great reults last year.

I am coming back to SD in December.

I called the Hilton and they say it is chica friendly.

1 guest at a time.

BoricuaOnline
11-19-06, 03:49
Score, Remington was closed two months ago, don,t know actual status. There is a disco near Hilton, De Noche, girls available there, sometimes you can find good quality, sometimes not.

Aeilla, go to internet dominican yellow pages, superpagesdr.com, look for "hoteles" and "moteles", dr1 webpage is also a good source of info.

Aeilla
11-21-06, 11:47
I want to get a idea on taxi prices from the international airport to a motel in SD. General amount. Looking at staying at:

Hotel Danae 18
calle danae 18 Gazcue
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

Thanks guys

Man
11-21-06, 21:36
I am a little confused about the exchange rate.
Lets say a hotel is 1000 pesos, ho much is it in dollars?

Thanks

BoricuaOnline
11-21-06, 23:06
I am a little confused about the exchange rate.
Lets say a hotel is 1000 pesos, ho much is it in dollars?

Thanks

Actual cash exchange rate is between 33 to 34 pesos per dollar, lets say 1000/33.5 = near 30 dollars.

Aeilla, taxis on airport are going to quote you $35.00 to Santo Domingo city. You can go down to $25 if you negotiate.

Ford
11-22-06, 04:19
Is Remongtons still open? I had great reults last year.

I am coming back to SD in December.

I called the Hilton and they say it is chica friendly.

1 guest at a time.

Score77,

What'up mate? The Hilton IS chica friendly, I've stayed there many times (3x this year) Be alittle discreet and don't throw it in everybody's face and you'll have no problem. There are mostly legitimate guests staying there, so alittle discretion is never a bad thing.

Puertoricana-online ;) is correct across the board. Current exchange rate
is around 33.7 RDP to 1 USD - 1000 pesos is about $30.

Depending on how your dressed at SDQ cabs will quote you upwards of $40 for a ride to a hotel on the malecon, but can fairly easily be negotiated down to $25.

Happy Turkey Day all! :)

Sailor02
11-22-06, 19:03
Does anyone know where the bus station in SD is located. I'm thinking about taking a bus in from Boca Chica, and then using a taxi from then on.

Thanks, sailor02

Supertigre
11-22-06, 20:09
Does anyone know where the bus station in SD is located. I'm thinking about taking a bus in from Boca Chica, and then using a taxi from then on.

Thanks, sailor02Yes, you can do that. There are various different bus terminuses in Santo Domingo, depending on what direction you are coming from.

I have been by bus/guagua from Boca Chica to SD, but I don't remember exactly where the bus station is, but it is fairly central. From there you can take a taxi to Caribe Tours bus station, your hotel, or wherever you want to go.

The bus takes a while as it meanders through places like Andres and intersections with poorly regulated traffic lights and road construction projects.

BoricuaOnline
11-22-06, 22:36
Does anyone know where the bus station in SD is located. I'm thinking about taking a bus in from Boca Chica, and then using a taxi from then on.

Thanks, sailor02

There are a few stops of Expreso Boca Chica buses in Boca Chica, I am not sure if it is on Duarte (main) street or the one paralell to it but they are easy to find, there is a bus every 5 minutes or less. Buses have a/c ,are confortable and the cost is an amount equivalent to one dollar. It is an interesting experience to take it and chat with locals (if you know Spanish). The bus stop in Santo Domingo is a little far away from touristic zone but you can tell the driver to leave you near colonial zone and they can take you to a block or two away from the colonial area. If you want to go from Santo Domingo to Boca Chica you have to take a taxi or public car to go from colonial or malecon area to Expreso Boca Chica bus station. Taxi from malecon must be 100-150 pesos, a car 10 to 15 pesos.

Vagringo2
11-25-06, 20:41
The bus station is on the other side of town, but from there you can go to Sousa or Santiago or Boca Chica. The cabs near the bus station are more expensive. when I left the airport I walked to the main road about a mile, then hoped on a bus to Boca Chica for a buck. On the way back I took the same bus back to Santa Domingo and went to Sousa.

Grand Pollo
11-26-06, 03:40
I am a little confused about the exchange rate.
Lets say a hotel is 1000 pesos, ho much is it in dollars?

Thanks

The hotels almost everywhere and almost always charge in US$ so there won't be any confusion. Unless you are from Europe then there could be. Let's assume you can translate Euros to Dollars.

Everything else is in RD$ (pesos). Food, girls, beer , groceries, taxis (except the airport who want US$)

A peso is about 3 cents, so RD$10 is about a quarter, RD$20 is about half a buck, RD$50 is a buck and a half and RD$100 is 3 dollars. A tip of US$1 is RD$35 more or less.

So a girl who wants RD$1000 wants $30 nearly to the penny. 2 years ago in Boca Chica they wanted RD$400 and that was less than US$8 when it was 55:1. How times have changed.

Terry U
11-26-06, 18:33
2 years ago in Boca Chica they wanted RD$400 and that was less than US$8 when it was 55:1. How times have changed.I remember those good ole days when Duarte was packed at night, all the bars opened and Cosmos was the main disco.

BoricuaOnline
11-27-06, 06:36
Has anybody been on Aparta Hotel plaza Colonial? http://www.plazacolonial.com.do/

This place looks nice and is near the entry to El Conde pedestrian street on colonial zone.

I am going to Santo Domingo from Dec 25 to 31. Thanks.

BoricuaOnline
11-28-06, 01:03
I think this website is very useful on general information about Santo Domingo colonial zone. http://www.colonialzone-dr.com/

High Energy
11-28-06, 05:37
Hi everybody,

I just found that site offering a bunch of different hotels in Santo Domingo, they have a search engine and online booking for all of these hotels. If you're looking for cheap and chica-friendly hotels, that's the place to check out.

http://www.santodomingohotels.com.do/

Chears,

H.E.

Long Stroker
11-28-06, 08:37
Fire at Dominican Republic club kills 9

By RAMON ESPINOSA, Associated Press WriterMon Nov 27, 4:44 PM ET

Fire struck a strip club after it closed early Monday, killing nine employees who lived on the floor above the establishment, including several dancers, officials said.

The fire at Jazzys was already out by the time neighbors notified authorities of the blaze about 4 a.m., said Col. Rafael Javier Bueno of the East Santo Domingo fire department.

The victims, including six women and three men, died of smoke inhalation and were found on the second floor, Bueno said. They were the only people inside the building at the time.

"Everyone who was inside the club died," Bueno said.

A preliminary investigation indicated an electric short-circuit caused the fire, national police chief Bernardo Santana Paez said.

The fire, which was confined to the interior of the two-story building, charred tables, chairs and much of the dancers' stage. There was smoke damage on the second floor, which was divided into several small bedrooms and a large living space with five mattresses on the floor.

Both of the building's exits had been locked from inside, and damage to a rear door suggested neighbors tried to break in for a rescue attempt, Bueno said.

The windows on the top floor were barred, leaving a single staircase leading down into the club as the only possible escape route.

The exterior, topped with domes and fake minarets evoking an Arabian palace, showed no signs of damage. No other buildings were affected in the rough eastern district of the capital known for its nightclubs.

A few family members stood outside the building Monday morning, some of them weeping.

The club had apparently closed a few hours before the fire started. In a bid to combat crime, the government imposed a law in July requiring all bars and nightclubs to close at midnight on weekdays and at 2 a.m on weekends.

High Energy
12-02-06, 01:31
Went to Lapsus on Ave. Independencia the other night. The guard (Henry "El Leon") wanted RD$100 for a drink when I arrived, and another RD$50 for cigarettes when I left. He offers to arrange for anything you want, even over the phone.

There were about 10-15 girls and 2 clients. Most of the girls are 5-7, but I also saw two 8s and a 9. Having them inside is RD$1500 per girl, RD$2000 to take them out (the owner gets RD$800 of those). I set up a meeting place after midnight when the place closes and took out three of the girls for RD$1000 each. Paid RD$1300 for a super-executive motel with jacuzzi and everything and later dropped off the girls close to Lapsus again.

Tried to take photos but two of the girls wouldn't, so I dropped that altogether. Only one of the three did the back door.

FYI: 1 US$ ~ 33 RD$ at the moment

Helpmann
12-02-06, 15:46
Went to Lapsus on Ave. Independencia the other night. The guard (Henry "El Leon") wanted RD$100 for a drink when I arrived, and another RD$50 for cigarettes when I left. He offers to arrange for anything you want, even over the phone.

There were about 10-15 girls and 2 clients. Most of the girls are 5-7, but I also saw two 8s and a 9. Having them inside is RD$1500 per girl, RD$2000 to take them out (the owner gets RD$800 of those). I set up a meeting place after midnight when the place closes and took out three of the girls for RD$1000 each. Paid RD$1300 for a super-executive motel with jacuzzi and everything and later dropped off the girls close to Lapsus again.

Tried to take photos but two of the girls wouldn't, so I dropped that altogether. Only one of the three did the back door.

FYI: 1 US$ ~ 33 RD$ at the momentGood trip report; informative and to the point.

-Helpmann :)

Lord Arislan
12-04-06, 01:35
Has anyone stayed at Costal Caribe in La Romana?

I want some information about the place, like how are the girls in the area, or the girls at the hotel.

Orgasm Donor
12-08-06, 20:53
Renaissance Jaragua Hotel & Casino


Anyone have info on this place? kinda pricey yes, $85. But Id love to have a nice big pool and be near the beach... but will I be too far from the action?

OD

Professor10
12-08-06, 21:09
This Marriott is a fine hotel - a bit pricey but worth it. Close to a few clubs, not a far taxi ride to many, many MP's and also walkable to the shopping area where some non-pro's are great to look at. The casino also has some working girls there, but the security may or may not look at your guest and let you up on the elevators. Better to get a "garden room" in the back and then no hassles except a quick $5 to the night guard.

Bkk212
12-08-06, 23:04
Hi Guys,

Finally got my trip organized will be in SDQ from 28/12 for a few days. Anyone willing to hook up with me, let me know.

Some questions for the guys who were just there and were inquiring about discos, which ones are worth visiting, or which ones have the best selection of working girls?

Also any one has information on Hotel Metur in SDQ?

Any additional info for a first timer would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Gpiper
12-09-06, 22:24
Has anyone stayed at Costal Caribe in La Romana?
I want some information about the place, like how are the girls in the area, or the girls at the hotel.

Wrong board rookie! Try La Romana.

Gpiper
12-09-06, 22:26
Renaissance Jaragua Hotel & Casino


Anyone have info on this place? kinda pricey yes, $85. But Id love to have a nice big pool and be near the beach... but will I be too far from the action?

OD

You won´t be too far from the action, but you will be from the beach. At least 30 minutes to nearest beach, Boca Chica. Also, the Jaragua is not girl friendly.

Gpiper
12-09-06, 22:33
Went to Lapsus on Ave. Independencia the other night. The guard (Henry "El Leon") wanted RD$100 for a drink when I arrived, and another RD$50 for cigarettes when I left. He offers to arrange for anything you want, even over the phone.

There were about 10-15 girls and 2 clients. Most of the girls are 5-7, but I also saw two 8s and a 9. Having them inside is RD$1500 per girl, RD$2000 to take them out (the owner gets RD$800 of those). I set up a meeting place after midnight when the place closes and took out three of the girls for RD$1000 each. Paid RD$1300 for a super-executive motel with jacuzzi and everything and later dropped off the girls close to Lapsus again.

Tried to take photos but two of the girls wouldn't, so I dropped that altogether. Only one of the three did the back door.

FYI: 1 US$ ~ 33 RD$ at the moment

Lapsus has rooms now? Last time I was there 3 years ago they didn´t. Prices seem good there. Casa Theresa, Sky Bar, GPB, Remingtons (not sure if still open), Doll House and Girl House Cafe Bar, are all much pricier for in/outcalls.

Gpiper
12-09-06, 22:37
Fire at Dominican Republic club kills 9

By RAMON ESPINOSA, Associated Press WriterMon Nov 27, 4:44 PM ET

Fire struck a strip club after it closed early Monday, killing nine employees who lived on the floor above the establishment, including several dancers, officials said.

The fire at Jazzys was already out by the time neighbors notified authorities of the blaze about 4 a.m., said Col. Rafael Javier Bueno of the East Santo Domingo fire department.

The victims, including six women and three men, died of smoke inhalation and were found on the second floor, Bueno said. They were the only people inside the building at the time.

"Everyone who was inside the club died," Bueno said.

A preliminary investigation indicated an electric short-circuit caused the fire, national police chief Bernardo Santana Paez said.

The fire, which was confined to the interior of the two-story building, charred tables, chairs and much of the dancers' stage. There was smoke damage on the second floor, which was divided into several small bedrooms and a large living space with five mattresses on the floor.

Both of the building's exits had been locked from inside, and damage to a rear door suggested neighbors tried to break in for a rescue attempt, Bueno said.

The windows on the top floor were barred, leaving a single staircase leading down into the club as the only possible escape route.

The exterior, topped with domes and fake minarets evoking an Arabian palace, showed no signs of damage. No other buildings were affected in the rough eastern district of the capital known for its nightclubs.

A few family members stood outside the building Monday morning, some of them weeping.

The club had apparently closed a few hours before the fire started. In a bid to combat crime, the government imposed a law in July requiring all bars and nightclubs to close at midnight on weekdays and at 2 a.m on weekends.

This is a shame. I passed by Jazzys a few times, but have never been inside. It is located on Avenida Espana, right down the road from La Base.

Gpiper
12-09-06, 22:53
Hi, guys,

New to the board, but not the game. Here is a quick update from my recent 3 days to SD.

Stayed at the Intercontinental. I was able to bring up a chica the first night no problem. The second night, the guy at the front desk gave me a hard time. I argued a little and security came over. They ended up just making a copy of her cedula and letting her up. I didn't try to bring up a girl the third night. I would not reccomend the hotel for mongering. It is a very nice place to stay though.

Girl House- Right around the corner from the hotel. They had about 15 girls workig, mostly 7s and a couple of 8/9s, depending on your taste. I pulled a nice girl out around 1: 30AM Friday for 2, 500. That is what she asked, I didn't bother negotiating. We went back to the Intecontinental, I gambled a little with her by my side and then we went to my room for the night. No problems with her rushing to leave. We woke up around 9: 00AM, I took her to the breakfast buffet and we parted ways.

Case Modelos- I went there around 10: 30PM on Saterday. There were about 10 girls working. Two or three really hot ones. Fun atmoesphere girls, drinking dancing, etc. I had a couple of drinks with one, but decided to check out a few places because it was early. In retrospect they had the best girls that night. Didn't talk prices.

Casa Azul- Had a cab driver take me there Friday night. Around midnight the place was dead. No guys in the place. I had ordered a drink before I realized the place was dead. I proceeded to have my drink while being stared and smiled at by 8 women standing in a semi circle around me sitting on a couch with my cab driver. It was one of those DR moments too funny to forget. Girls were mostly 5's and 6's, maybe a soft 7 or two. Didn't talk money.

Lapsus- This was actually a nice place to hang out. They had a stripper and a nice bolero singer the Friday I was there. They had around 10 girls working. I spoke to a few just to pass the time. Didn't talk money because I knew I wasn't ready to pull one out yet. While it was a nice place to hang out, my 6th monger sense tells me the chicas would not be good. A little too much english and I could easily see them asking for a lot of money then jetting. I have no first hand knowledge that would be the case, again, just my feeling.

Casa Theresa- $5, 000 for TLN on Saterday night. A really cute one got the better of me and I went along without negotiation. Sorry guys, I usually try to do my part to keep prices in line. There were about 20 or more girls working. Decent music and decent chicas.

Casinos- The jaragua had A LOT of girls working Saterday night. I would say over 20. A couple worth talking to, but I had a chica with me from Casa Theresa already. The casino in the intercontinental also had 2 or 3 girls working on Friday during the day and night. There was a real hot girl there on Sunday night. I'm not sure if she was workng, but I was too much of a pussy to find out. I think her name was carolina.

I also spent a night in Santiago. I will try to post a brief report on that thread, but briefly, I went to casa blanca and got a nice morena for $1, 500 TLN.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Nice report, except for the part where you dropped 5,000 pesos at Casa Theresa! Are you kidding me?!

Usboys
12-10-06, 03:19
Do you guys have any information on this hotel? By the way, I been long time monger mostly in America and Brazil, just return from Costa Rica and now want to see DR. Trying to do the tour.

Property Name: Barcelo Lina
Address: Av. Maximo Gomez, Santa Domingo, DO
Price 60 dollars

Score77
12-10-06, 18:14
Hello,

I will be in SD on Friday Dec 15th for a week.

I am staying at the Hilton for $95 US chica friendly. I spoke to the manager and the front desk. Only 1 guest a time. May have to sign in. I am not worried.

I have read on other posts that you can find non pro chicas at the malls and near the university. My questions are:

What mall is close to the hotel district that I can find them? Do they work for stores in the mall or are they walking around as customers? Or what mall is the best to check out?

I have read that the universities you can find np chicas. Which university and where do you hang out to find them? On campus or cafes near the university?

Is Lapus in back ot the Marriott? How close to the strip?

Any help will be appreciated.

Score77
12-10-06, 18:35
Hello guys,

I was in SD last year but was not familiar with the island. I ma going back Friday 12/15/06 for 6 days.

I have read many posts and need some information.

I have read reports on Lapsus and it sounds like a good place. Is it on the street behind the Marriott? How far from the hotel stri is it? I amstaying at the Hilton. Please give me what it is near not street address. Thanks

Also they mention malls and the universities for non pros. Which university and where do you go Do I go to the campus or cafes near the campus?

At the malls are chicasworking in stores or strolling the mall? Also which mall is the best to look?

I went to Remington's and got real lucky I met a girl from Santiago. Oh was she hot. She spent the night for $3500 pesos. Well worth it even if I overpaid.

I want a good sensual massage, any suggestions? I got one last year at the Sol Melia. I am staying the Hilton this year. Any place close by for chicas.

I found a great one at the Marriott last year.

Any help will be appreciatted. Thanks, Jay

Interdude
12-11-06, 12:23
Lapsus has rooms now? Last time I was there 3 years ago they didn´t. Prices seem good there. Casa Theresa, Sky Bar, GPB, Remingtons (not sure if still open), Doll House and Girl House Cafe Bar, are all much pricier for in/outcalls.I don't think Lapsus has rooms. The place next door does, it's easy to confuse the 2. The girls at Lapsus are much much better than the girls next door. It's 1500 eat in, 2500 take out. And it's basically like a room at a strip club where you would get a lap dance, not bed or anything.

Ford
12-12-06, 14:45
Hello,

I will be in SD on Friday Dec 15th for a week.

I am staying at the Hilton for $95 US chica friendly. I spoke to the manager and the front desk. Only 1 guest a time. May have to sign in. I am not worried.

I have read on other posts that you can find non pro chicas at the malls and near the university. My questions are:

What mall is close to the hotel district that I can find them? Do they work for stores in the mall or are they walking around as customers? Or what mall is the best to check out?

I have read that the universities you can find np chicas. Which university and where do you hang out to find them? On campus or cafes near the university?

Is Lapus in back ot the Marriott? How close to the strip?

Any help will be appreciated.

.........who exactly was it that told you that there was only 1 guest allowed at a time at the Hilton? ;)

Billy Bob
12-12-06, 17:41
Ford:

You are the world's champion monger. I'm surprised you didn't have a trio in that sack.

You make me jealous. I'm headed down in January. Miss Jamaica can cool her heels.

Score77
12-13-06, 06:07
When you get to SD airport from USA you have to clear customs. I was there lat year.

Do you have to pay an entry fee at a booth before you go to customs?

Also, is there an easy way to get a cab without fighting all those locals dragging you to a cab which is a car without AC?

Thanks in advance.

Jay

Helpmann
12-13-06, 12:56
When you get to SD airport from USA you have to clear customs. I was there lat year.

Do you have to pay an entry fee at a booth before you go to customs?

Also, is there an easy way to get a cab without fighting all those locals dragging you to a cab which is a car without AC?

Thanks in advance.

JayYou will need to purchase a tourist visa, which costs US$10.

-Helpmann :)

BoricuaOnline
12-13-06, 15:55
When you get to SD airport from USA you have to clear customs. I was there lat year.

Do you have to pay an entry fee at a booth before you go to customs?

Also, is there an easy way to get a cab without fighting all those locals dragging you to a cab which is a car without AC?

Thanks in advance.

Jay

www.taxidominicano.com

Steven
12-14-06, 02:25
Gentlemen,

I have been R-ing TFF, and I don't see anything about cute young SWs to be had at ST hotels at reasonable prices. Is there any such thing? If so, where can they be found?

Rmfldnsqjt
12-14-06, 05:44
Hello,,.

I'd like to know the information of massage shop.

And what time do they (massage shop, night club and so on) open?

PM7 or 9?

Could I use the massage service in any hotel without check in?

Can I date the women in working Casino?

Thank you men.

Lapsus. I like there. 15 18 girls. 2 women are pretty and all women are kind. To take out. 2. 500RD$.

Casa de modelos. I went to there 2 times but met to be not kind women. Take out. 3, 000

Casa de teresa. The casa has rooms to upstair. One girl very pretty. In there, take out. Each 3, 000

Tabu. I can't find pretty girl in there.

I want to go to sky bar, girl house but the taxy drivers don't know that. I don't know the name of spanish.

And I just want to receive the massage service but drivers don't know too.

Please help me.

Brugal8
12-14-06, 13:59
Dear Rmfldnsqjt,

To get to those places tell you taxi driver that you want to go to the houses located in la avenida pasteur.

Once you get there the places are next to each other.

Member #4643
12-14-06, 15:03
Hello,,.

I'd like to know the information of massage shop.

And what time do they (massage shop, night club and so on) open?

PM7 or 9?

Could I use the massage service in any hotel without check in?

Can I date the women in working Casino?


I have not found an afternoon massage place in SD since the crackdown a few years ago. I had a favorite girl in Casa Michelles whom I miss dearly. Where in town can we go? (I once succeeded in picking up a girl off of the street for a message. However, this just turned out to be a BBBJ and sex. I didn't complain, but it wasn't what I was looking for. ) A good recommendation, even its 15 minutes out of the center of town, would be appreciated!

More importantly, what about those beautiful girls working the casinos. I have never thought of asking them out, because its obvious they work until at least 4 am (way past my bedtime), but does anyone have experience with them? Are they "regular girls", or are they semi-pros who are willing to pick up some spare cash after work?

BoricuaOnline
12-14-06, 16:48
Hello,,.

I'd like to know the information of massage shop.


And what time do they (massage shop, night club and so on) open?

PM7 or 9?

Could I use the massage service in any hotel without check in?

Can I date the women in working Casino?


Thank you men.

Lapsus. I like there. 15 18 girls. 2 women are pretty and all women are kind. To take out. 2. 500RD$.

Casa de modelos. I went to there 2 times but met to be not kind women. Take out. 3, 000

Casa de teresa. The casa has rooms to upstair. One girl very pretty. In there, take out. Each 3, 000

Tabu. I can't find pretty girl in there.

I want to go to sky bar, girl house but the taxy drivers don't know that. I don't know the name of spanish.

And I just want to receive the massage service but drivers don't know too.

Please help me.

If you refer to a full service massage the places that were offering that kind of service were closed a year ago.

Some clubs and casas open at noon, some later in the afternoon.

Yes you could use massage services from hotels without check in.

Can I date the women in working Casino? I asked this question to an Jaragua casino employee, and my answer based on what she said is Yes, some girls are available, some are looking for a "serious" relationship but there are a few that will go with you for some fast cash. I later noticed that she was offering herself, hehe.

Sky bar and girls house is a five minute walking distance from Lapsus. One minute walking from Intercontinental hotel.

Rmfldnsqjt
12-15-06, 17:18
Thank you very much for good answers.

Have a nice day all good men.

Member #4643
12-16-06, 15:32
Yes you could use massage services from hotels without check in.


Which hotels in Santo Domingo have massage services? Do these girls actually give F/S? The massage girls I have gotten in Santo Domingo were girls on the street who offered me a massage but were in fact simply offering sex.

If there is a hotel with in hour massage with sex in Santo Domingo, I need to go there next time!

Marzo
12-16-06, 18:05
Hello guys,

Also they mention malls and the universities for non pros. Which university and where do you go Do I go to the campus or cafes near the campus?

At the malls are chicasworking in stores or strolling the mall? Also which mall is the best to look?

Any help will be appreciatted. Thanks, JayI don't know if you are still checking the internet while youre here. As for malls and universities, here is my advice:

First of all, realize that non-pros is a whole different ball game. So change your expectations. It's not easy, but can be lots of fun. Most of the fun is in the hunting, which isnt always successful, especially if you're not young or good looking. Be content to have a good time trying, and if you score, consider it bonus.

Starting with the malls, there are several around town, each with different clientele. The most popular place seems to be Acropolis, on Avenida Churchill. It is full of model-quality chicas, shopping or going to the movies, or takign their lunch break, or drinking at Friday's or Dock. You will see Santo Domingo's upper class girls. The girls working in the stores are obviously less wealthy than the shoppers and so might be more open to your advances. Joke with them, offer to buy them a meal on the top floor at the end of their shift. Only a few blocks away is the MultiCentro -- more of a grocery-department store than a mall, but also full of girls. And a few blocks more, the Unicentro... a more run down mall with girls from more humble backgrounds.

Universities. You're kind of off-rhythm with this, because of Christmas break. Most students are just finishing their exams right now. Maybe monday or tuesday you might find some students around, but not after that. Any taxi can take you to the UASD (pronounced 'la wast'). Walk campus, especially the little grove where people hang out and chat. Or try UTESA, which has a McDonald's next door, where girls hang out.

Even if you don't score, talking to these girls will give you a good idea about the culture here of non-pros. Ask them if there are any parties or special events at the clubs they will be going to while youre here. Ask them what clubs are the best -- admit you want to meet a beautiful dominican girl. They will be flattered and straight up with you, telling you where girls who like tourists would go out.

Good luck, play safe, be good to the girls!

Bkk212
12-19-06, 17:59
Hey Guys,

I am heading to santo domingo on Nov.22 for a week. I will be staying at the hotel la residence on calle danae in Gazcue Santo domingo. Where are some nice dance clubs to go to in the city? I really plan on having a great time. Is anyone here going to be in the city during november? It would be cool to have some fellow mongers to talk to.Hi Ykg3000,

How was it in SDQ? Did you ever get to those night clubs?

And which would you recommend visiting?

Ykg3000
12-20-06, 03:49
Hi Ykg3000,

How was it in SDQ? Did you ever get to those night clubs?

And which would you recommend visiting?Well, I didn't get a chance to get to the nightclubs. However, you have got to go to el Conde. The females are out in full force everyday. Lots of big asses and large breasts being shown all over. The girls house and lapsus have a few hotties available. If you speak spanish, negotiate to meet up with some of the girls after work or the next day. Most of the girls agreed to FS and BBBJ for $1000-$1500RD. But the going rate for TLN at these clubs is $2500RD. Santo Domingo has the best women in the DR, but for a vacation trip you are better off in sosua or boca chica.

Bkk212
12-20-06, 08:13
Well, I didn't get a chance to get to the nightclubs. However, you have got to go to el Conde. The females are out in full force everyday. Lots of big asses and large breasts being shown all over. The girls house and lapsus have a few hotties available. If you speak spanish, negotiate to meet up with some of the girls after work or the next day. Most of the girls agreed to FS and BBBJ for $1000-$1500RD. But the going rate for TLN at these clubs is $2500RD. Santo Domingo has the best women in the DR, but for a vacation trip you are better off in sosua or boca chica.Thanks, Ykg3000.

I will definitely take our advice however I will be on the lookout for a decent nightclub as I will be in SDQ on New Year's eve. Will give my update when I return.

Marzo
12-21-06, 00:40
Thanks, Ykg3000.

I will definitely take our advice however I will be on the lookout for a decent nightclub as I will be in SDQ on New Year's eve. Will give my update when I return.New Year's Eve plant yourself on the Malecon. No night club needed. Be well rested and get ready for a wild time.

BoricuaOnline
12-24-06, 02:14
New Year's Eve plant yourself on the Malecon. No night club needed. Be well rested and get ready for a wild time.

Lots of merengue bands are going to play in the malecon area as they do every xmas so the malecon area is really a good choice. I am going to be there from Dec 25.

Jesi James
12-24-06, 02:43
When you say plant at the Malecon, where abouts? A taxi drove me for 10 miles up and down the "Malecon" and we found a couple of chicas, but not in any abundance or quality.

Thanks

Bkk212
12-24-06, 18:49
New Year's Eve plant yourself on the Malecon. No night club needed. Be well rested and get ready for a wild time.Thanks Marzo. Advice much appreciated, will definitely hang out on the Malecon.

Will post on my return.

Score77
12-24-06, 23:02
I just got back from SD on Wednesday after 5 days. I want to give you a short report on what is happening there.

First night I went to Lapsus and met a great chica Marlene. She was an 8 with a 9 body and 10 for personality and action. She gave me a lot of enjoyable mileage. It was 2000 pesos to take her out and well worth it.

The Hilton did not let her in because she had a photo copy ID which Carlos the mgr gave her before she left. The Hilton has no problem with chicas if they have there original ID. They charge you $30 US plus taxes if you do not register your chica when you check in. The Hilton has the best security of any hotel I have stayed in the world. It is a 5 star for $95 per night.

Since we did not get in there we went to 23 Pastuer St to the Mystic which is now a hotel. Emilio who is from Miami made this disco into a hotel by the hour or full day. I paid $1200 pesos inc. for the night. Very safe and clean place. If you want an inexpensive place, try this.

2 nights later I made the big mistke of going to the mansion. My driver who I use from the Hilton the past 2 years took me there. The talent is abot a 5 or less. Of the 15 girls available it was hard pickings. I found a girl who seemed fine but I took her downsairs 10 minutes after we got there. A horrible rush no interest experiance. THis place is a ripoff, STAY AWAY, there is plenty of other places to go. I could not exchange her for another chica because she got undressed, so I took my loss and left. Mangement could care less.

The hotel action at the Hilton is 0, the Marriott had nothing above a 5 where as last year I met a 9 and spent the night with her. Street action is not my style.

All in all I had a good time. If you want to see baseball players and play Poker with them go to the Hilton Casino late and you culd bump into Jeter, Serenano, Dortel, and more.

Happy New Year,

Jay

Helpmann
12-25-06, 01:11
I just got back from SD on Wednesday after 5 days. I want to give you a short report on what is happening there.

First night I went to Lapsus and met a great chica Marlene. She was an 8 with a 9 body and 10 for personality and action. She gave me a lot of enjoyable mileage. It was 2000 pesos to take her out and well worth it....Good trip report! A few new things and some confirmations on some old things.

-Helpmann :)

Marzo
12-30-06, 04:09
When you say plant at the Malecon, where abouts? A taxi drove me for 10 miles up and down the "Malecon" and we found a couple of chicas, but not in any abundance or quality.

ThanksDon't monger on the Malecon. If you really want, there are crowds of girls on the corner where the gas station is. Just by the strip club Doll House and the restaurant Vesuvio. But I would advise avoiding them. Most are desperate.- never a good thing.

I meant go to the Malecon for the New Year festivities. Trust me, on new years eve, you won't be driving up and down looking for action. You won't get a car near the place; it will be full of non-pros.

J Long
12-30-06, 23:54
I am spoiled rotten by the bbbj in the FKK's in Germany. I am going to SDQ in a few weeks and want to know how difficult is it to negotiate this in the DR. I have had limited success in St. Martin & Aruba (1 or 2 out of 10 will do this). I have read most of the reports on this board and it seems this is more do-able in DR. Am I right or wrong? The exchange rate is better in the DR than Europe right now so the price is attractive but I would pay more for this service. Si habla espanol poco. Oral sin condum si?

JL

Helpmann
12-31-06, 14:24
I am spoiled rotten by the bbbj in the FKK's in Germany. I am going to SDQ in a few weeks and want to know how difficult is it to negotiate this in the DR. I have had limited success in St. Martin & Aruba (1 or 2 out of 10 will do this). I have read most of the reports on this board and it seems this is more do-able in DR. Am I right or wrong? The exchange rate is better in the DR than Europe right now so the price is attractive but I would pay more for this service. Si habla espanol poco. Oral sin condum si?

JLBBBJ should be expected. Never in my DR life have I had to negotiate a BBBJ. If she refuses, after you've pushed her face to your groin, zip-up and refuse her services. As long as you haven't paid in advance, 80% of DR putas will see it your way.

-Helpmann :)

J Long
12-31-06, 21:00
BBBJ should be expected. Never in my DR life have I had to negotiate a BBBJ. If she refuses, after you've pushed her face to your groin, zip-up and refuse her services. As long as you haven't paid in advance, 80% of DR putas will see it your way.

-Helpmann :)Thanks Helpman. Made my day. You da Man.

Regards

JL

Marzo
01-01-07, 06:07
Was hopping with non-pros. Picked up a short little blonde girl named after a flower. She ouldnt come home tonight (parents would miss her), but keeping my fingers crossed for later in the week.

This country is amazing. I lack game in every way, but just sitting along the sea-wall for 20 minutes brings the goods. She asked me what time it was... looked bored for awhile. Asked me if I was waiting for anyone, what my name is, etc. Even I cant screw up that.

Softball across the middle of the plate.

BoricuaOnline
01-01-07, 21:33
Colonial Zone scene

I was from December 26-31 in Hotel Mercure , Paseo El Conde St. in corner with Hostos St. Hotel Mercure charges $63.00 for a double if you reserve and pay in advance by internet, breakfast included. Additional guest fee is $8.00, taxes included. You have to pay the guest fee if you take a girl to your room, they charge it on checkout.

El Conde is a pedestrian mall that begins on Parque Independencia, monument constructed to honor the heroes of dominican independence from Haiti and ends in the Plaza of Cathedral. It has fast foods like Kentucky, local chicken franchise Pollo Rey, Pizza Hut, Pizzarelli, Baskin Robbins, Bon Ice Cream, Nestle, and some other local restaurants and bars like the recommended Pacos. There are two grocery stores, La Despensa and Plaza Lama, a six pack of 12 oz Presidentes costs 181 pesos on Plaza Lama and 203 pesos on La Despensa. La Despensa offers the alternative to change your beers for cold ones without additional charges. 4 packs of 22 oz Presidentes costs similar on both places, near 190 pesos. Brahma beer is a lot cheaper and is taking some market share to Presidente.

The girls. Action in the zone begins early in the morning. European mongers begin they chase as soon as they end to eat breakfast and the girls know it so you can see girls in search of clients as early as 8:00 a.m. They usually walk up and down El Conde, in the Cathedral Plaza and near main area hotels. There are girls of all types but they are mostly dark to mid skinned girls. Most of them looks like in the 18-25 age range. Large butts and breasts are very common here. I met a few girls from colonial area. Elisa, 20 yrs with large breasts and her friend who is 18. They are bisexual but do not always work together. I saw Elisa working everyday in the area. Their attitude is good but their sex skills are average, Elisa friend is apparently a rookie on the sex scene. She was surprised by the beauty and facilities of the room and Elisa was always advising her. Pics later on this area. I paid Elisa $40 and her friend was happy with $35. Exchange rate was 33.4 per dollar.

One day I was arriving to my room when I saw a girl going out of another room. I approached her and chatted to her a little, she was “mad” because the guy she was with paid her only 20 and she wanted 40. I offered her 20 for a bbbj and a massage and she said ok, but this girl was horny at this time, we ended fucking and she let me fuck her ass which she enjoyed a lot. So I paid her $20.00 and she was happy. I talked to some other girls and they usually expect $ 40.00 for short term.

Discos and bars.

I went to a few discos of the area, Nowhere which is next to my hotel was my favorite. The main area is an indoor colonial patio so it has a nice atmosphere, lots of urban and electronic music here. There is another saloon on second floor with different music. Atarazana 9 is more upscale and less attractive for mongering plays a nice variety of music, from tropical to urban, electronic. It is located in Plaza Atarazana near the ports area. La Atarazana has like 8-10 indoor and outdoor restaurants one next to each other and is nice for couples.

Other areas. I went to Avenida Venezuela on the Oriental Zone. Visited a dozen clubs : Eclipse, Makumba, DCaraf, Latinos to name a few. This area is a well lit one and looks safe to me. Eclipse has a lot of Mercedes and BMW on their parking so you can imagine who are their clientele. You can connect with locals in the other clubs, Makumba and Dcaraf were the bests for me. I met some girls just talking to her and they noticing that I am a foreigner. Took a girl from Makumba to my room, paid her nothing, expenses were the ones a normal couple have, beers, drinks and a late dinner at Pacos. I gave her my number and it was a mistake, she was calling everyday wanting to go out with me, but I have other things on agenda.

I also went to Pasteur St. this one begins on el malecon and ends on Ave, Independencia next to hotel Intercontinental. There are 2 clubs: Girls House and Sky House. Prices are 2500 pesos for 2 hours, girls of all types . First time I took a girl at Sky house that I do not remember her name, that gives an excellent bbbj. Nice attitude and sexual skills, she is only 18.

Later I took Michelle from the same place, pretty pettite girl. Nice sexual skills too but not as good as the first girl. Irma, who also works at Sky House and was at Remington before, is volcanic.

There is a new small hotel on this street, Mistyk, nice rooms and with all the room facilities of larger hotels and a large parking. Short term or daily rentals.
A day cost $50.00, taxes included. This area is relatively safe.

Jaragua casino

Quality and quantity varies from day to day, but on Friday it was both quality and quantity there. Over 40 girls, the perfect 10’s were taken by an european and an old man. Some 5 to 8’s , some blondes, white girls, I finally choose a white pettite dominican , daughter of a dominican woman and a chinesse man. She asked 3300 or $100.00 dollars, we ended in 2000 pesos. She has to pay 500 pesos to casino security each time she goes out with a client. This girl was nice and looks pretty but she do not kiss and that is a turn off to me. Overall experience was good with her.

The law controlling the closing time of business was suspended during Xmas so is was party until 5-6 am.

Helpmann
01-02-07, 00:18
Colonial Zone scene

I was from December 26-31 in Hotel Mercure , Paseo El Conde St. in corner with Hostos St. Hotel Mercure charges $63.00 for a double if you reserve and pay in advance by internet, breakfast included. Additional guest fee is $8.00, taxes included. You have to pay the guest fee if you take a girl to your room, they charge it on checkout....Very good trip report!

Thanks,
Helpmann :)

BoricuaOnline
01-02-07, 03:47
Elisa is 20 and the other (the slim one) is 18.

George90
01-02-07, 17:40
Elisa is 20 and the other (the slim one) is 18.

Very nice photos! Thanks for posting!

Are you implying that these two did lesbian sex for you?? If so, how much did they charge? Are they willing to let you give out their contact info?

BoricuaOnline
01-02-07, 17:59
Very nice photos! Thanks for posting!

Are you implying that these two did lesbian sex for you?? If so, how much did they charge? Are they willing to let you give out their contact info?

They said they can do anything. They do not want their faces to be shown on picture but the mirror did not help them much. They were kissing and touching while showering together. I did not saw the younger one in the zone during the rest of my stay but Elisa was there everyday.

BoricuaOnline
01-02-07, 18:33
She is 18, Sky House is on Pasteur St. next to hotel Intercontinental. 2500 pesos. If you know the girl you can negotiate for less during her off time. This girl provides me the best blow job I have had in years, she loves it and loves to deep throat.

Pics of other girls later, I have to resize them so it take time.

Trick Williams
01-03-07, 02:13
Nice ass shot... Got anymore???

BoricuaOnline
01-03-07, 04:22
Nice ass shot... Got anymore???

Nope. Now Michelle from Sky House and former Remington chica Irma, both girl I met on previous trips. Pics of other girls later.

BoricuaOnline
01-05-07, 20:04
She is part dominican part chinese.
She asked 100 dollars or 3300 pesos, we agreed into 2000 pesos.

Artisttyp
01-05-07, 23:30
Next month all month is carnaval and supposedly every sunday there is something going on in the towns of La Vega and Bonao. I also know that santo domingo is involved with parades on the malecon.


What does this mean for people wanting a hotel room for Feb in santo domingo? Is the rush to book now on or doesn't it attract a huge crowd like rio or baranquilla?

Ive been searching for hotels online in Santo Domingo with not really much luck within my budget (nothing above $55). Anything I have found has gotten mixed reviews so Id like to see what Im getting before commiting to anything.

IE. Reserve for boca chica then search on foot in SD when I get there. Is this suicide during carnaval? Anywhere else I think it would be as far as the DR I have no idea of the magnitude of it all.

Thanks,

Artisttyp

Steven
01-07-07, 01:34
Just returned from the DR. Had a nice time in SD, although didn't stay there long enough to cultivate better sources. Mostly attended Girl House on Pasteur, and Lapsus (dont remember the address). Also found a place called Aurora, on New Years Eve night, when everywhere else was closed. Cost in all 3 places was 2500 pesos. This cute guerita was Daphne, from Aurora, who was the most compliant, willing to please, 19 yo, ever to be found. And a nice sense of humor. All in all, satisfactory mongering there.

Npaul1
01-07-07, 03:18
In aurora 1.jpg what is that red thing between her legs? A penis? LOL!

Artisttyp
01-07-07, 19:21
I just answered my own question..I think. Carnival (carnaval) in santo domingo is celebrated close to feb 27 independence day so I assume around that time pre reserving a room would be the best idea.

I needed to know that since I wanted to check out a few of these budget hotels first hand. You should also count on paying in cash for these rooms because

#1 They dont accept any other form of payment.

#2 You get a better deal than at a hotel that accepts credit cards.

***Ive gotten email responses from these 2 hotels that have a very easy guest policy however when I did some research I found them to be "gay friendly" hotels where gay men do exactly what we are doing. Im not sure if that would work for me or against me since these places tend to have attractive rates and easy guest policies. Ive found most hotels will honor your guest but when your on a budget there are only a handful that I see online that do and the "gay friendly" ones are at the right price...Any input from anyone?

The two hotels are called Hotel Duque Wellington and Casa Newyorker both close to the zona colonial.

Artisttyp

Ford
01-07-07, 19:34
Just returned from the DR. Had a nice time in SD, although didn't stay there long enough to cultivate better sources. Mostly attended Girl House on Pasteur, and Lapsus (dont remember the address). Also found a place called Aurora, on New Years Eve night, when everywhere else was closed. Cost in all 3 places was 2500 pesos. This cute guerita was Daphne, from Aurora, who was the most compliant, willing to please, 19 yo, ever to be found. And a nice sense of humor. All in all, satisfactory mongering there.

......Steven. Very cute girl and 2500 pesos is a very solid price (I assume it was for ST) Thanks for sharing your pics and thanks for doing your part on keeping a "lid" on the prices in SDQ!

FORD

Sailor02
01-08-07, 16:40
Does anyone know where the Aurora is located? Steven found himself a nice chica from there. I would like to visit this place during my upcoming trip.

Thanks, Sailor02

Bkk212
01-09-07, 17:56
Does anyone know where the Aurora is located? Steven found himself a nice chica from there. I would like to visit this place during my upcoming trip.

Thanks, Sailor02Aurora is located obliquely behind the Jarauga hotel and casino. It's on Independicia avenue which is one block north of the Malecon. It's very close to Lapsus.

Member #4643
01-10-07, 00:23
i realized that a subscription to cybercupido was only $9.95 a month and could easily be paid with paypal, so i took out a month.

i was feeling a bit bored dreaming about trips to colombia and the dr so i composed a season's greeting email for the chicas thinking i would get one or two responses and plan some action if they were from pretty girls.

i sent off about 20 of these emails. i was not prepared for the response, which was overwhelming. at first i tried to follow every girl until i got a photo back (and then i just corresponded with the pretty ones. i am kind of shallow that way!). then i got unsolicited messages from the chicas. incidentally, cybercupido is great if you are a paying member. they record all of the messages you send and receive, you can look them up any time to refresh your memory of what you have said to the girl in the past, they tell you what age all of the girls are interested in (this is only listed for some girls for the unpaid member), and for some reason you get lots more unsolicited inquiries. i suspect that the girls can only send unsolicited emails to paying members.

after a while, i got burned out on the colombian ladies. a visit to colombia is only a wet dream for me right now. sadly, cybercupido only does spanish speaking brazilians, and there were only a handful worth contacting. but it was great for the dr. where i am right now.

spent yesterday fucking a dental student and today i have a med student lined up. i had so many girls that i weeded out the crowd by asking the girls if they would sleep with me on the first date. this strategy is not recommended, because one certainly loses girls whom you would otherwise score with but are offended by the question. however, when all was said and done, i had gone from about 10 girls to 2. this was rather doable in the 3 days that i will be here. sadly, i had a great one in santiago- amazing body and face- but i don't have time to visit her.

for those who are planning to visit soon, i recommend to you again the palacio hotel on duarte. its not cheap ($90-150), but there are always available girls on the conde if you need a quickie. they are very girl freindly and the internet connection is fantastic. and a warning- avoid a girl on the conde named yahaira. she sell newspapers in the morning. she offers massages at the same time. when she gets to your room, she immediately pressures you to increase the price. and all she does is get on top and fuck at high speed, anxious to leave as soon as possible. not bad looking but a lot better with her clothes on.

Helpmann
01-10-07, 03:06
But it was great for the DR. Where I am right now. How long are you in SD for?

-Helpmann :)

Johan007
01-10-07, 20:29
I realized that a subscription to Cybercupido was only $9.95 a month and could easily be paid with Paypal, so I took out a month.

I was feeling a bit bored dreaming about trips to Colombia and the DR so I composed a season's greeting email for the chicas thinking I would get one or two responses and plan some action if they were from pretty girls.


After a while, I got burned out on the Colombian ladies. A visit to Colombia is only a wet dream for me right now. Sadly, Cybercupido only does Spanish speaking Brazilians, and there were only a handful worth contacting. But it was great for the DR. Where I am right now.



Hi Forest,

en serio...FORGET CYBERCUPIDO.....it is full of sh*t. I tried it in the past....so i know what i say.

Did ye try Latinamericancupid??? it's great...has good options...and is NOT expensive (50 euros for 3 months) and imho way better then amigos.com.

bye

Johan

Johan007
01-10-07, 20:32
GUYS,

i will fly in SD on the 5th of febr....and i like to know if some of you mongers tried out the Napolitano Hotel before?

I read on several websites they charge 72 US $ for a single room....and for a double they charge 36....so whats the deal here???

Can I have my amiga join me in a double room for 36...opr do I have to pay up twive those 36 bucks???


anyone???


regards,


Johan

Member #4643
01-10-07, 20:59
Johan- I am not certain what your problems were with Cybercupido, but I can assure you that if I had a month to spend here, I could have pre arranged a rendevous with as many girls as i wanted.

Of course, these are mostly, "normal" girls. That is to say, most are looking for a husband or at least a boyfriend who will give them a regular source of income and would be horrified to know that they were simply considered as an alternative to paid sex by guys like me. My 25 yo dental student is not a hooker, and when I look at what she has requested that I give her as gifts (perfume, food, taxi, hair appointments, etc) in just two days, I am paying about the same as I would for a girl out of one of the Casas- about 1500 pesos per pop. The only advantage is that I think that I am her only sex partner today, so she may be a little bit cleaner than some of the girls in the houses and the sex is more to my liking. For example, her vagina gets so wet during sex that one cannot sleep in the same part of the bed where we had sex. Her moans and groans appear real. Few hookers really get into sex that much (although there are some).

But we all know that free sex can be more expensive than P4P. I work hard to keep the free sex from getting out of control (this girl already wants me to buy her a car!)

Cybercupido may work better for some countries than others too.

I don't want to go overboard with the Cybercupido thing. I will probably not try it again. When one has more than three days to travel, Cybercupido/Amigos/etc are all unnecessary in Latin America (of course if you want pros, Cybercupido is never necessary, and there are lots of great pros in Santo Domingo). All you need to do is ask the girls out, be nice to them and they will have sex with you. It may take 2 dates, but with the time, I have about a 95% success rate with waitresses, barmaids, shopkeepers and girls who are in internet cafes, and I am not good looking, young or cool.

Of course, if you don't speak the language, none of this logic applies.

Willynme
01-10-07, 23:55
I stayed there in nov with my then girl and I think it was 72 inc tax--nice room with a view and girls in the casino downstairs. Nice pool and good food in the terrace restaurant. Nice people--not sure about the double room---probably the price pp=72. Have fun and I am there on the 14th of feb and I am going to try the riazor. Did the mercure last time also, no pool but right on the conde, real nice room and 63 with tax and breakfast. Going solo this time--should have known better to try a relationship with a pro, she tried everything she could to convince me she never worked much, but the longer I knew her the more I found to be be. S.

I will fly in SD on the 5th of febr. And I like to know if some of you mongers tried out the Napolitano Hotel before?

I read on several websites they charge 72 US $ for a single room. And for a double they charge 36. So whats the deal here?

Can I have my amiga join me in a double room for 36. Opr do I have to pay up twive those 36 bucks?

Anyone?

Regards,

Johan[/QUOTE]

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Hi Willynme,

It appears that you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

BoricuaOnline
01-11-07, 00:51
Hi Forest,

en serio...FORGET CYBERCUPIDO.....it is full of sh*t. I tried it in the past....so i know what i say.

Did ye try Latinamericancupid??? it's great...has good options...and is NOT expensive (50 euros for 3 months) and imho way better then amigos.com.

bye

Johan

Every method that leads to satisfactory sex is good to me. If you can write spanish use latinchat.com and go to Dominican Republic chats. I have met some girls using this system, yo do not have to register, its free. Have you hotmail account, pics and cam ready, make her "fall in love" for you and it is 99% that you are going to have sex with her in your next travel.

Member #4643
01-11-07, 04:07
There is not much to add about this place except that I was just there a few minutes ago. I have no energy for a chica after the last 24 hours (2 cyber-c girls and a conde girl who was an all three holes type). So I just had a few beers and left.

However, this was the best selection I have ever seen in the DR. I have been to Lapsus, Remingtons, Casa Azul/Theresa/de Modelos and a few others tha are never discussed on this board and the selection here was truly outstanding.

Of course, it helps that the holdays are over and there were only about 5 men and 30 women!

Marzo
01-11-07, 21:12
I wonder if anyone knows the owner(s).

Any info appreciated.

Marzo

Member #4643
01-13-07, 16:15
The girls call the owner El Cubano, and I briefly talked with him. He seemed pleasant enough to me. Middle aged guy with too much jewelry. Not pushy and able to hold a conversation about things unrelated to his business.

However, the girls aren't that pleased with him. It seems that he takes 1500 of every 2500 charged. Furthermore, if the girls do not return within three hours of leaving, he fines them 1000 (the theory being that they are practicing some extra business on the side). Many - if not all of the girls- live at the house as they are recruited from outside the capitol. This was true of the girl I had there (I returned at closing time).

The pricing structure there is like Remington's used to be. If you take a girl out at closing time (bars have to close at midnight now), its 2500 for TLN. Otherwise, its 2500 for ST and 5000 for TLN. But, if you do not get express permission from the owner that you are paying 2500 for TLN, the girl will leave you after 2 hours to avoid a fine, even if you leave at midnight. In other words, the rules are not really rules and the girls are scared of the owner. I learned this the hard way, and had to return to GH to get the owners permission after taking the girl all the way to my hotel at midnight.

High Energy
01-13-07, 23:47
Ive been searching for hotels online in Santo Domingo with not really much luck within my budget (nothing above $55). Anything I have found has gotten mixed reviews so Id like to see what Im getting before commiting to anything.This website has hotel rooms starting from US$45 to US$60 for small hotels in Santo Domingo: www.santodomingohotels.com.do

HTH,

H.E.

Marzo
01-14-07, 02:34
The girls call the owner El Cubano, and I briefly talked with him..Thanks. The place interests me as a business model.

As you can see from prior posts, I had some great experiences there, but had my first bad one the other night.

For starters, there were lots of guys there. Call me selfish.

And then the first girl I settled in with on a couch told me we would have to go out to a cabana! That means paying the house for her salida and then paying a hotel or cabana! No thanks.... I wanted to use the rooms in back or upstairs. Alas, she doesn't live in-house and so is not welcome to use the rooms, she told me. All in all, wasted time. She had ordered a glass of wine and stupidly I agreed before asking hte price. 300 pesos. For a freaking glass of dominican wine?

Already pissed off, I changed to a different girl. She too, wanted to leave. She was pushing the Mystic hard... so much that Im sure she has a side deal with them. When I told her no, upstairs or nothing, she took me upstairs. Her name was Carisia. She started to open the condom for hte BJ. When I flipped out, she told me she only did it that way. I have been with many a DR chica and never once was refused a clean BJ. She finally agreed to suck "abajo", meaning my balls and shaft, but not the head.

I jerked off on her face and beat it.

Not the best experience there, considering it's 2500 plus the glass of wine and a beer for me.

I'd love to meet the Cubano. Not so much to ***** about this one bad night, but more to get the inside scoop. I wonder if he's making so much money he doesn't care about customer satisfaction. I wonder how he recruits. I wonder how he maintains discipline, etc. I know there are a few guys on this board with first hand experience (the PC, etc). It's a pipe dream, but Id like to look into the business aspects.

Anyone interested, maybe we should talk. We couldnt do worse than some of these guys.

Marzo

Member #4643
01-14-07, 08:07
I think that Marzo learned some lessons (that he probably already knew but forgot) the hard way about DR casas. First, you must always ask about price before buying a chica a drink. My girl asked for wine too; when I learned it was 300 pesos, I told her no (and whispered in her ear she could have a 300 peso propina instead- "si el sexo es bueno"). Since they only earn 1000 pesos per session, 300 is a damn good tip, and the promise of the tip tied to the quality of the performance seemed to work well. She decided she wasn't thirsty and we moved on.

I think GH has a lot in common with Remingtons Palace, which is now closed. Almost nothing the girl tells you about price can be believed unless confirmed by the manager or the owner. If she tells you 2500 for the night, its probably untrue. That is because the girls are not allowed to negotiate price. EVER. The owners dictate price and see it to their advantage to be almost entirely inflexible. I have read on this board countless times the complaints of guys who were in empty casas and could not negotiate a few hundred pesos off the price. I have only once managed to bargain the price down in a casa.

One tip I have is to arrive at the casa 30 minutes before closing time. 30 minutes is plenty of time to go without a beer (150 pesos) and to tell your chica there is wine in your hotel room. And, the house rules are that its 2500 pesos for TLN after 11:30(vs 5000 before 11:30), which, as I said in my earlier post, you must confirm with the manager before you leave or the girl will still leave you in 2 hours. Finally, they turn the lights on at 11:45. So you can see if the girl who looks great in the near dark is actually really pretty. I have been fooled on many occasions in DR casas into thinking I was bringing back a gem because of poor lighting. All in all, its much more work than it should be to take a girl back to the hotel from a DR casa but once you learn the system, its not so hard. And, in my view, the talent available at Girl House is outstanding.

As for BBBJ- I always ask the girl about BBBJ. In fact, even though I don't care for anal, I always ask about that too. That is because girls who say yes to anal, in my experience, never renege on BBBJ. And I ask about kissing, even though DFK is supposed to be on the menu for all the girls in all the casas. These three questions only take thirty seconds. If the girl says no to kissing or oral without a condom, I walk. In Girl House, there are lots of pretty girls.

As for hotel vs the casa, I must admit that I had no idea it was possible to take a girl upstairs. But I always prefer my own hotel room.

Johan007
01-14-07, 14:59
This website has hotel rooms starting from US$45 to US$60 for small hotels in Santo Domingo: www.santodomingohotels.com.do

HTH,

H.E.

Thanks HE!!!

I was looking for a cheaper Hotel myself too.....but I didn't succeed in finding anything UNDER 60 USD...:-( I don't know what happen with Google but it only pops up with more expensive hotels....(Hilton....Santo Domngo...130 bucks a night...HAHA)
I don't know about you guys (and this issue is discused a lot of times here on this forum) but I am NOT planning to spend much money on a Hotel room in a thrid world country were the average income is 100-150 USD a MONTH!!


I know SD is one of SA most expensive places to be.....In Colombia,Peru, Panama and even in Brasil it is way more easy to find decent,save,secure cheap Hotels UNDER 60 USD...even with a pool!!
I just do NOT know whats wrong with SD......I mean WHY is it SO expensive??

I appreciate your link....as i will be in this lovely country for 3 weeks starting from 5 th of February.

I also have some chicas in Santiago...la Vega...and POP lined up....so i don't think i will stay the full stay only in "el capital"....:-)

Thanks mate

Johan

Artisttyp
01-14-07, 16:43
1. Just curious if anyone including the girl hounds you to pay a "salida" fee when you take her out of the casino? I can see that being a possible issue.

IE. You make a deal with a girl in which you think the exit fee was included in the price then you get back to your hotel and she tells you differently.


2. When you take a girl out of the casa I assume the two hour time limit includes her taxi ride there and back shower and undressing time . It seems a little rushed to me for the price. I guess I should really only count on a little over an hour for sex?

3. Has anyone ever bartered anything with a girl for sex? I know this sounds really cheap but I have an ipod that has a few months left on it and its fully loaded with music even reaggaeton merengue and salsa. Also I have an authentic "Licey" baseball jersey. As I said it was just a thought. Im also going with a crap load of make up.

CrazyDave
01-14-07, 17:47
1. Just curious if anyone including the girl hounds you to pay a "salida" fee when you take her out of the casino? I can see that being a possible issue.

IE. You make a deal with a girl in which you think the exit fee was included in the price then you get back to your hotel and she tells you differently.


2. When you take a girl out of the casa I assume the two hour time limit includes her taxi ride there and back shower and undressing time . It seems a little rushed to me for the price. I guess I should really only count on a little over an hour for sex?

3. Has anyone ever bartered anything with a girl for sex? I know this sounds really cheap but I have an ipod that has a few months left on it and its fully loaded with music even reaggaeton merengue and salsa. Also I have an authentic "Licey" baseball jersey. As I said it was just a thought. Im also going with a crap load of make up.Yes, I have gone to Wal-Mart and bought several of the Nokia 1060 cell phones for $34.95 and they are like gold in the DR. The cell phones have to be computer "unlocked" before they can be used in the DR but the cost is only about $500rd at most DR cell phone stores. I was told the DR price for Nokia cell phone is about $4,000rd but I was talking with a cartoon-watching chica, so this make not be true. The point is $35 is a good price for 1-2 day GFE and mucho sex.

Prtyr2
01-14-07, 19:18
The Girls House owner is cuban and a fairly cool guy. He charges 2500 pesos whether you go with a tout or taxi driver or not. If you go alone he gets 1500 pesos and the girls gets 1000, if you go with a tout the tout gets 700-800 and the owner makes less cash.

There are few rules at the girls house. Chicas can sort of work when they want etc. Some girls only work afternoons or a few days per week etc. Mystic is next door and they used to have a club as well, but is now just a hotel. The Mystic owner was also cuban, but I am not sure if it is still the same guy etc.

A girl that refuses BBJ is still rare in the DR. Years ago it was unheard of. My take on it is I don't want to have to negotiate stuff. I go by chemistry. If I don't get a vibe that the girl would most likely do me for free under different circumstances. . . .I pass. . . . .

The one girl I ever took out of Girls House stayed all night and gave me her number. She was a hot little spinner that was a nympho. Also a screamer. I have not seen her there in a long time. . . .

Artisttyp
01-14-07, 19:36
[QUOTE=Prtyr2] He charges 2500 pesos whether you go with a tout or taxi driver or not. If you go alone he gets 1500 pesos and the girls gets 1000, if you go with a tout the tout gets 700-800 and the owner makes less cash.

1.What do you mean by "tout" a non taxi/motoconcho guy?

2. " If you go alone he gets 1500 pesos..." If I go alone where?

3. Do most girls insist on using a specific hotel ? Im allowed guests at mine so it doesnt make sense to pay for one.


Sorry but when reading your post it comes off a little cloudy maybe you can word it differently. Thank You.

Artisttyp

Johan007
01-15-07, 00:44
Hi Crazy Dave,

cell phones just work fine...if they are TRIband...or Quadband for if you are European.

My (Dutch) simlock free motorola C651 (Triband) worked good when in the DR....the only thing i needed was to buy a new loader that handles 110 Volts...as my original Dutch loader is only suiteble with 230 Volts;-)
besides that i also could not use my Dutch plugs;-) Total costs between 150 and 200 DOP....;-)

If you wanna buy a DR cell phone (pree paid=con tarjeta) you allready have one as cheap as 1000 pesos!! These babies are basic (no camera or whatever fancy stuff) but are good for communicating with the chicas...;-) And thats vital...no?

Johan

Interdude
01-15-07, 03:34
What time does Girl House open everyday? Are they open in afternoon?

Marzo
01-15-07, 19:42
What time does Girl House open everyday? Are they open in afternoon?Yeah, they're open in the afternoon. I don't know what time they officially open the doors.

I also agree with the earlier poster who doesn't like to negotiate too specifically. Foolish, probably, but if I have to spell out contractual terms I'm no longer even interested in sex. Which is why I was surprised by the condom insistance for the BJ. I've never encountered that before!

I was eating in the Chinese Pica Pollo place on the north side of Parque Independencia the other day. Cheap, greasy food, cold beer. And in walks a stunner. With child in tow. She would be one of the hottest girls in Girl House. I'm usually a bit shy, but for whatever reason I invited her to sit down and paid 80 pesos for her kids meal.

We made small talk. She was a bit awed to befriend a gringo. From a poor neighborhood called Los Rios. By the end of the meal, she was sucking on french fries seductively behind the kids back, etc. I was quickly reminded how much action there is, outside of the pro market and the casas.

It's amazing, really. I met her again yesterday for a walk down the conde. No action yet, but I'm banking on the "third date". She was already rubbing up against me. All told, I've spent about 200 pesos on her. I'm no great looking guy, and I'm no millionaire. But the action is there.

Mangera
01-16-07, 03:45
Gentlemen, this is my first post in the SD forum, so bare with me. First, let me just express many thanks to the main contributors to this forum that have provided wonderful info. about SD. For example, Ford, just outstanding contributions, as well as fOREST and many other members. I have read the entire SD going back a couple of years as well as the general info. section.

I have been to Brasil, Colombia, and Argentina many times as well as other places such panama, Costa RIca, Uruguay, Peru, and others in Europe as well. Ironically, I live in Florida, and have never been to the Dominican Republic, but after reading this forum, I have an impulse to just go for a long weekend to scope the place out for myself. I have a wonderful trip planned for Medellin, Colombia(been there a few times already) during mid Feb., but I also have a sudden urge to go to SD. Any suggestions as to when it would be best to go? For example, in two weeks(Jan.), or wait till first or second week in March? Are there any factors such as weather, low season/highseason, festivals( big crowds, and i do not like that), etc. that effect either dates to go?

I am hispanic who is very fluent in spanish and I plan on hitting on regular women. But the reality is that I will only be there for a long weekend, so I will be experimenting with the casas ( it usually takes a bit of time or a few dates to get a piece of ass from a reg. gal). I will be going solo, so I must be extra cautious, yet I have plenty of solo trips under my belt. If I like SD, I will make a return trip in July after my month and a half stay in Brasil.

Overall, I am curious about SD ( attitude of women in and out of bed, food, night life, etc.) and how it compares to places such as Rio, Natal, Salvador, Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Buenos Aires, Etc. I will definitely report on my impressions when I get back. I love morenas, so I look foward to this new adventure. I am frugal with my money even though I do not have a tight buget. But its a matter of principle in trying to keep the prices in line. I am inclined to staying in the napolitano hotel. Please feel free to give your suggestions or advice, or pm me. I would be more than willing to give you the low down on the places that I have visited. Suerta para todos en casando su preferido culito. Laters!

CrazyDave
01-16-07, 16:39
[QUOTE=Mangera]Gentlemen, this is my first post in the SD forum, so bare with me. First, let me just express many thanks to the main contributors to this forum that have provided wonderful info. about SD. For example, Ford, just outstanding contributions, as well as fOREST and many other members. I have read the entire SD going back a couple of years as well as the general info. section.

You are a very, very smart monger as you have done your homework. This form is filled with great details and experiences. All mongers going to the DR should invest 1-2 hours and read about other monger's experiences and advice. I have learned sooooooo much from Ford, Forrest, and others who have posted within the last 1-2 years. This form should ne REQUIRED reading for all newbies before they are allowed to ask crazy questions such as:

1) Is it really hot in the DR ?? Do I need sunscreen/bug lotion
2) Will I have problems picking up chicas ?? I am 50 y/0 and 150 + pounds overweight, bald, bad breath and I speak no spanish ??
3) If I promise to send a chica WU will she love me forever ?
4) I met this wonderful virgin chica in a bar and I am in love, do you think she really loves me ?? (She gave me good BBBJ on our first date, etc)
5) I saw my novia in the photo gallery and how did you get her foto ??
6) I send my novia $200 us dollars each month but why does her male "cousin" always answer her cell phone ??
7) Do you think my chica is actually "enrolled" in the computer/english class that I have been paying for ??
8) My chica wants to live in the states but wants to bring her mother and 87 other family members with her, is it "true" love ???
9) I woke-up from a good night of sex with a street rat and I can not find my wallet, do you think the chica stole the wallet? Can I get my dinero back?
10) The chica has been working the streets for only 3-4 years, do you think I should wear a condom??

etc, etc., etc., etc.

I think there should be a specific form for "newbies" that all seasoned mongers could write their advice.

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Hi CrazyDave,

It appears that you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Fantasy
01-17-07, 03:03
Thats all I hear! I give him the knowledge, and he posts it.
Not really, this guy does know almost everything, I think he should open a chica bar somewhere! Now that would be a place where you could find quality!

Civid
01-17-07, 04:59
I just made my first visit to the DR on a short business trip. I read up as much as I could on the forum to familiarize myself with the customs and locales. Thanks to all those that have reported and provided knowledge!

On my first night in town I swung by the Casino Jaragua. There were probably about 10 girls working the floor. I ran into Chana there (who boricuaonline has pics up of at post #444). I chatted with her for a bit and was ready to take her back to my hotel. She wanted to go to a cabana and quoted 500 pesos. Seemed ridiculously cheap from what I have read here. Then she said she wanted it up front. Not trusting this arrangement too much – something just didn’t sound right here - so I balked.

Decided to go up the corner to Lapsus, but it had just shut down for the night. Sign posted says new hours are 6 pm to 12 am. So I hopped in a taxi and went to Casa Modelos. There were about 8 girls there. I picked out a nice petite young chica named Deyliris of 20 years age. 3000 pesos.

As I was staying at the Hotel Santo Domingo I wasn’t sure if I would be able to get this girl to my room after reading many posts here that it is not girl friendly. The taxi, chica, and I decided to all give it a shot though. The taxi driver agreed to wait outside for a bit in case we didn’t make it up in order to go to a cabana for a back up.

We walked right in just holding hands and making small talk and no one said a word to us. As the elevator doors closed Deyliris exclaimed happily “We did it!”

So up we went and the fun began. She spent about 2.5 hours with me before taking off. Very friendly, playful and affectionate girl. She wasn’t up for too many pics but enjoy the one below.

Civid
01-17-07, 05:24
On second day in DR decided to check out El Conde. Maybe I got there too late in the afternoon (about 1:30 pm) or maybe it was the on again off again rain, but there weren’t any chicas to be found. The few I did spot were already with guys so I ended up with no luck there.

So I then made my way over to Girl House around 6 pm. Btw - I was told they are open 7 days a week from 11 am to 2 am since the question was raised earlier. This place is very nice inside and very cozy. There was a very nice selection of about 20 girls there. About 4 immediately caught my attention and I decided to grab a beer (150 pesos) and have a seat on the couch to scope out the talent more. A lovely 21 year old chica named Sylvia quickly made her approach and was all over me. This was a sexy little thing and I was game.

We chatted for a bit while she rubbed her hands all over me, grinded up next to me to the music, and stroked my dick. Then after about 20 minutes she started pushing for the deal. She said 2500 pesos for 3 hours, but she didn’t want to go back to my hotel because she said her ex-husband works there so she suggested we go next door to the Mystic Hotel instead. I didn’t really buy the whole ex-husband excuse, but couldn’t figure out why she would prefer to go next door. I asked about rooms upstairs thinking I had read that Girl House had them, but wasn’t positive. She said there wasn’t any, and since I wasn’t positive there were I couldn’t argue with her.

She I plopped down my 2500 pesos to the bar, she went up stairs to change into something more casual for the street, and we walked next door to the Mystic Hotel. I paid 700 pesos for a room. I was actually really surprised at how nice the place was and everything was brand new. Very safe and very clean. The had a sign saying $50 for the full night so for those of you looking for a cheaper option maybe Mystic a place to consider…and hell you’re right next door to Girl House and Sky House.

Great session with Sylvia. Nice bj, French kissing, multiple positions, and fucked her twice in about 2 hours time. Although after the first round she started to make a move to leave but I made it clear to her I was getting another round and we still had more time.

Unfortunately my flight back home was the next day, so I didn’t get to spend more time at any other places. I did enjoy the visit and sampling some of these Dominican chicas. I must admit though, I very much accustomed to Central & South American prices so what I was paying in the DR seemed high to me – but its still damn better than home!!!

Mr Enternational
01-17-07, 07:16
I did enjoy the visit and sampling some of these Dominican chicas. I must admit though, I very much accustomed to Central & South American prices so what I was paying in the DR seemed high to me – but its still damn better than home!!!I second that. That is why I usually avoid the casas in DR and only partake in the freelancers. I usually give them DOP900 for ST and DOP1500 TLN.

Long Stroker
01-17-07, 07:51
It's amazing, really. I met her again yesterday for a walk down the conde. No action yet, but I'm banking on the "third date". She was already rubbing up against me. All told, I've spent about 200 pesos on her. I'm no great looking guy, and I'm no millionaire. But the action is there.
Excellent way to connect with the non/semi-pros, Marzo!

Pounce on it!

Artisttyp
01-17-07, 14:59
Civid brings up an intresting point. Why pay for another hotel when yours allows guests. It happened to him at the casino and at girls gouse. I would never want to spend an extra $50 for a room that I already have that would be like paying double for a piece of ass.

Although I do understand his position how could he have avoided this?


I could stay at the mystic but Ive found cheaper options that allow guests and have gotten ok reviews.

Brugal8
01-17-07, 18:53
I have three girls that I coul recommend from this place:

1. Suzan/Suzana : she is a tall morena on the light side) with a rocking body, long hair, natural breast, the complete package.

2. Kathy: Last couples of times I was in the place she was not there and then they told me that when she is there she is taken quickly and right now she is in here hometown santiago.

Let me tell you something fellow mongers, even if she is from santiago, she is a morena (on the dark side) and her body is unbelievable, especially her ass and legs she is rockin.

3.Jessie: she is not as fine as the other two but she is really into lesbo action with some gfs she has in the place and really wants to make you have a good time.

When you mongers go over there ask the people that work there for suzan and kathy(don't know if she is back yet) get there early thay are in high demand.

Please try to take pics because when I was with them I forgot my camera.

That's all

Brugal

Marzo
01-18-07, 03:43
The upstairs rooms at Girl House are where the girls live. There is a plus and minus to this, of course.

Plus -- I was fascinated. The rooms are full of bunks and messy clothes. It's an intimate glimpse into the girl's life, which kind of turns me on. There was a note on the door detailing who had clean up duties what day. Also (a plus for me, maybe a negative for another guy), other girls tend to knock on the door and want to come in. Ive had some good luck teasing/cajoling them into the action and giving me a quick suck or jerk. A mini-threesome.

Minus -- youre on a bunk bed, which sucks. On the bottom bunk, there's not much head room, so it's hard to sit up and watch the BJ happen. The top bunk is fine, but youve got to hop up there. And with a hard-on, it gets kind of silly.

Another interesting detail: Both times I was upstairs, the girl cleaned up the "leche" with another girl's towel, and then returned it with a mischeivous grin. I can only imagine what those towels are like!

Ive also heard girls refer to the "back rooms". Ive never been back there and dont know if such exists.

The girls DEFINITELY have a side gig with Mystick, as they all seem to be pushing it lately. My last actually had to run next door to explain why she wasnt coming, before we went upstairs.


Civid brings up an intresting point. Why pay for another hotel when yours allows guests. It happened to him at the casino and at girls gouse. I would never want to spend an extra $50 for a room that I already have that would be like paying double for a piece of ass.

Although I do understand his position how could he have avoided this?

I could stay at the mystic but Ive found cheaper options that allow guests and have gotten ok reviews.

Bedroom Bully
01-18-07, 07:35
Civid,

I have been hearing many positive things about the Girls House, I will definitely give it a look this month.

Thanks for the update.

Negro562
01-19-07, 00:24
I'm heading to S.D for the first time at the end of this month can anyone tell me where to find the hottest chicas down there. I'm talking about 8s & above, your help is greatly appreciated.

Mangera
01-19-07, 04:01
I suggest you read the forum from the beg. Also read the general info. section. Its very informative.

Also, what could be an 8 for someone else could be a 6 for you, or vice versa. I will be going solo to SD next week thursday for the first time on a 4 day stay. I think the info. gathered in this forum is sufficient to keep head above water. Check it out Negro, you should be fine after reading all of it. Good Luck!

Mangera
01-19-07, 13:10
You mentioned 2500 dr for the deed. I am a bit confused. Because I have heard that its 5000 dr before 11:30 pm, and 2500 dr after that time right before closing at midnight. Does take out factor into the price?

Is there a difference in rates for afternoon, and/or early evenning play with the girls from Girl house? Please clear this up for me. Thanks.

Mangera
01-19-07, 21:34
I would appreciate the info. since both my flight and my stay at the Hotel has been confirmed. I will be getting in next thursday. Thanks.

Jimbo 69
01-21-07, 03:48
I will be traveling to SD on the 27th for the first time. Staying at the Intercontintental. I like to spend time by the pool while I am there. I have seen the question asked a few times in the past but with no good answers. Are there any full service massage parlors around or do any or the hotels provide this service? what are the rates.

Thanks

Bedroom Bully
01-21-07, 07:41
Would any of you guys stay in Mystique as your main hotel? Just trying to get an idea of the quality and suitability.

Knowledge
01-21-07, 15:34
The girls call the owner El Cubano, and I briefly talked with him. He seemed pleasant enough to me. Middle aged guy with too much jewelry. Not pushy and able to hold a conversation about things unrelated to his business.

However, the girls aren't that pleased with him. It seems that he takes 1500 of every 2500 charged. Furthermore, if the girls do not return within three hours of leaving, he fines them 1000 (the theory being that they are practicing some extra business on the side). Many - if not all of the girls- live at the house as they are recruited from outside the capitol. This was true of the girl I had there (I returned at closing time).

The pricing structure there is like Remington's used to be. If you take a girl out at closing time (bars have to close at midnight now), its 2500 for TLN. Otherwise, its 2500 for ST and 5000 for TLN. But, if you do not get express permission from the owner that you are paying 2500 for TLN, the girl will leave you after 2 hours to avoid a fine, even if you leave at midnight. In other words, the rules are not really rules and the girls are scared of the owner. I learned this the hard way, and had to return to GH to get the owners permission after taking the girl all the way to my hotel at midnight.He's a Miami Cuban who is probably doing OK with the money. He has to pay the police and other govt like everybody else but he is charging more than double what other houses do where you can fuck the girls in house. The places on pasteur have been tourist traps for the past five years or so (they charged the same as everywhere else back when there was more competition). If you have the extra cash and not much time I guess it's worth it. He's not really open to negotiating. If you bring in a bunch of guys at an off hour he woudl probalby knock a little off the price.

Interdude
01-22-07, 14:11
Yes. the room is a little small, the size of a small bedroom. But it was much nicer than I expected walking in there.


Would any of you guys stay in Mystique as your main hotel? Just trying to get an idea of the quality and suitability.

BoricuaOnline
01-23-07, 01:45
Would any of you guys stay in Mystique as your main hotel? Just trying to get an idea of the quality and suitability.


Look to my post number 437 in this section. There are some pics that were taken at Mystik so you are going to have an idea of how rooms look. My bathroom has two toilets together, thats something I have never seen before.
Rooms are nice, clean, new with A/C, cable, all the facilities of a big hotel. A question to be answered is: do they charge a fee for taking a girl to your room?

BoricuaOnline
01-23-07, 14:16
i heard from my friend in sdq its $25 usd for a room st and 50 bucks all day!

Yes, they have a sign over the counter that states a price of $50 daily, short term begins in 700 pesos or $21.

Usboys
01-24-07, 02:34
Guys,

I was unable to get to my computer and lost allot of good information you guys provide and to go on memory.

I was very unsucessful with mongering in Santo Dominago with pros. One of girls said in Casa Models I believe the girls do not usually with blacks guys. I do not believe that because money is green. I had better perfomances in Rio and Costa Rica. I will say however I had a great sucess at the University, getting with my hotel rep, and meeting couple of Non-pros. Can some break this down this weird but a good thing. I am actually going back in March to SD and Sosua in May. Do not get me wrong Non-pros are great but sometimes you want the PSE. Right now I think about making Santo Dominago will be my non-pro home.

Also the tourist taxi drivers are crooks, I understand over pricing but by almost 100 -300 percent that crazy. Atleast, that led me to talk to the my hotel rep who was happy to help me out the rest of my stay

P.S I posted some pics in Costa Rica section of my experiences in that country. Sorry no pics worth taking on this trip. I very pickie

Npaul1
01-24-07, 03:56
Guys,

Also the tourist taxi drivers are crooks, I understand over pricing but by almost 100 -300 percent that crazy. Atleast, that led me to talk to the my hotel rep who was happy to help me out the rest of my stay.Remember, "Everything is Negotiable" and this is Their Country.

I recall being charged a normal fare to be transported to the Sheraton Hotel only a block away. When I protested, the driver reminded me that I did not need to enter his cab, but I did because I did not know where the Sheraton Hotel was and he did. This is the price we pay for being in their country, sometimes it sounds excessive.

If you know where you are going you can be sharper with your negotiation skills with the taxi drivers. They are there to feed their families, not yours!

George90
01-24-07, 17:16
Guys,

I was very unsucessful with mongering in Santo Dominago with pros. One of girls said in Casa Models I believe the girls do not usually with blacks guys. I do not believe that because money is green.

Can you expand on this? Frankly, I am flabbergasted. I am Black and I have mongered in SD with EASE! I have heard that Casa Modelos is not a good place for chicas. Did you try other places? Tabu? Lapsus? Spa Michelle?

Marzo
01-24-07, 19:35
A simple rule is that the ultimate ceiling for a cab ride in SD is 200 pesos, anywhere in the city. That is about 6 bucks. So EVEN if you get ripped off, and he charges you 200 pesos for a short ride, we are still only talking about 6 bucks.

Most drivers should be really happy to get 150.

As for negotiating, you dont need perfect spanish, etc. Before you sit in the cab, tell the guy your destination and tell him your fare. He will argue a little bit, but be firm. Maybe go up 50 pesos, or meet him halfway, but never go above 200.

Feel free to wave him off. It happens. Some guys would rather bluff themselves out of the fare. There are LOTS of cabs in the city! Tell him so. Point to the street and say "hay otra taxi".

Unless youre ill or really overweight, you can walk a couple of blocks at the most and find 3 more.

The only time youre at their mercy is if it really late at night. Even then, 200 is plenty.


Remember, "Everything is Negotiable" and this is Their Country.

I recall being charged a normal fare to be transported to the Sheraton Hotel only a block away. When I protested, the driver reminded me that I did not need to enter his cab, but I did because I did not know where the Sheraton Hotel was and he did. This is the price we pay for being in their country, sometimes it sounds excessive.

If you know where you are going you can be sharper with your negotiation skills with the taxi drivers. They are there to feed their families, not yours!

Jimbo 69
01-24-07, 23:01
Does anyone know any drivers that can be trusted? Someone that will take me to and from the airport at a reasonable price, and I can call when I want to go mongering?

Thanks

Bryan Robinson
01-25-07, 02:44
Anyone have any experience with Plaza Colonial Aparta Hotel in Gazcue?

It is on the NE side of Parque de Independencia (El Conde). For 4 days, here are the following prices: standard $188 (full bed or twins beds), Studio $228 (full bed or twins beds, kitchenette, living room), Superior $376 (one bedroom apartment, one bath) and Suite $440 (Two bedroom apartment, two bath). It has 86 apartments, for a total of 160 rooms, organized in a complex of seven independent buildings with swimming pool. This sounds like a winner, I'll email the staff and ask the "required" questions.

BoricuaOnline
01-25-07, 03:17
Does anyone know any drivers that can be trusted? Someone that will take me to and from the airport at a reasonable price, and I can call when I want to go mongering?

Thanks

I had lot of experiences with taxis in Santo Domingo. I made some short travels from colonial zone to hotel Jaragua area and they always asked 200 to 300 pesos. I always paid 150 except one time I paid 200 but it was 3 am. One day I met a girl at a disco and next day I went to her house in the Oriental zone. She lives in a mansion 5 minutes after Autopista San Isidro motels. 15 minutes or more ride. I called the taxi by phone (Apollo taxi) and price was requested by phone, it was 240 one way. We made a round trip tour back to my hotel and I was ready to pay 500 pesos. Taxi driver said " it is 750 pesos". I opened my wallet, took a 500 peso bill and said to the driver "I am a tourist but I am not a stupid" and left. One guy serviced me well from-to airport-hotel, he is Jeremias Polanco, he has a website that was posted here by somebody, taxidominicano.com He is also available for "nightlife tours" for a price per hour.

Usboys
01-25-07, 04:43
Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.








Can you expand on this? Frankly, I am flabbergasted. I am Black and I have mongered in SD with EASE! I have heard that Casa Modelos is not a good place for chicas. Did you try other places? Tabu? Lapsus? Spa Michelle?

Mangera
01-25-07, 04:53
Gentlemen, what is the general going rate from airport to hotel? For example, the Jaragua or Napolitano Hotel. Thank you.

Usboys
01-25-07, 05:00
Thanks for information. Because these guys was asking for 300 -800 pesos. I understood when they shown me around and waited in houses until I finish the two hours. But to go down the street it was crazy to charge 250 to 300 pesos. Again in Brazil and Costa Rica the taxis do the samething even in USA with tourist but their intial request is not this crazy. Also how much should you pay the guy waits for you while you are at the houses or should you tell them to leave and try to get a other taxi.

Also all the taxis where not clearly mark. I did not feel comfrontable hopping into cars which pickup 4 to 5 people. No telling what can happen.


A simple rule is that the ultimate ceiling for a cab ride in SD is 200 pesos, anywhere in the city. That is about 6 bucks. So EVEN if you get ripped off, and he charges you 200 pesos for a short ride, we are still only talking about 6 bucks.

Most drivers should be really happy to get 150.

As for negotiating, you dont need perfect spanish, etc. Before you sit in the cab, tell the guy your destination and tell him your fare. He will argue a little bit, but be firm. Maybe go up 50 pesos, or meet him halfway, but never go above 200.

Feel free to wave him off. It happens. Some guys would rather bluff themselves out of the fare. There are LOTS of cabs in the city! Tell him so. Point to the street and say "hay otra taxi".

Unless youre ill or really overweight, you can walk a couple of blocks at the most and find 3 more.

The only time youre at their mercy is if it really late at night. Even then, 200 is plenty.

Usboys
01-25-07, 05:02
I was told 21-25 US. But if you get a tourist taxi it is 35 US. That is big difference.


Gentlemen, what is the general going rate from airport to hotel? For example, the Jaragua or Napolitano Hotel. Thank you.

Terry U
01-25-07, 05:14
Gentlemen, what is the general going rate from airport to hotel? For example, the Jaragua or Napolitano Hotel. Thank you.
$30US, no more.

Mangera
01-25-07, 05:30
Thank you!

Yanqui69
01-25-07, 13:17
Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.


As an additional suggestion on problems with girls and black mongers...
I am only repeating what I have been told, not my opinion.

I have been with some girls that were morena (black, chocolate brown, whatever you want to call it) and they themselves told me that they preferred to avoid black guys because they often don't want to pay afterwards.

This is a generality, of course, but I have been told first hand stories from girls of black guys that will have a girl, ST or TLN, and then make up excuses not to pay her. "It wasn't that good", "I didn't invite her to spend the night",
blah, blah, blah."

A good (girl)friend of mine in Puerto Plata recently had this happen to her.
I suppose after a girl has been stung this way a few times, she may be reluctant to risk it again, -even if it doesn't apply to all.

This is a generality, but it seems some guys get off on abusing women like "bitches" and "hoes" out of some hip-hop video fantasy they have.

Just an example of how bad behavior on the part of some has consequences for all. I would encourage any responsible mongers out there to educate these types.

Take care,
yanqui69

Ford
01-25-07, 16:47
Hi Guys,

I generally travel to SDQ sveral times a year and work my way around the town.....hitting the usual hot spots.

Usboys - I don't know what to make of your remarks about Casa Modelos. Its pretty sad if what you say is true. It may well have something to do with the level of education/sophistication that CrazySunny mentions.

I have never seen anything like this at Casa Modelos myself, first hand but I'm not saying it couldn't happen. I can best describe myself as a "silk shirt, gold chain wearing white guy" (lol) which the girls tend to be immediately intersted in....but once they realize I speak Spanish and that I absolutely refuse to overpay or waste my money....they seem to lose interest in me just as fast. :D

I usually use Casa Modelos as one of my steady places - I've met and enjoyed evenings with several "regulars" there and have posted some photos of them on this board in the past.

As for your other comment "how do you guys negotiate, since the house prices are already set". Don't believe that. EVERYTHING is negotiable in the DR.

I've been given a so-called "firm" house price at 9pm that drops 1500RDP by the time that I return at 11pm. I've been given a "firm" house price on a Friday night when the place is packed that shrinks by 2000RDP on a Tuesday night when its slow.

My favorite negotiating ploy is that I tell the Casa manager "O.K. I'll pay you full price tonight because I'm really "juiced" for this girl here but if I pay full tonight...... how much am I going to have to pay tomorrow night when I return?"

He says "Señor the price never changes"
"No, no, no.... for me it does....now seriously if I pay full price tonight, how much tomorrow night?"

He usually will scratch off about 1000RDp or so. ($34)

If you want ground zero and your sick of Casas try the casino at the Jaragua.
You said that guys on your plane home said that "you have to play games for about 30-60 minutes" before women will approach you?

Tell those guys that Ford is available for monger tours anywhere in latin america......for help to the inexperineced. ;)

That hasn't been my experience there.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=450877&postcount=139

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=450882&postcount=140


cheers.............

Bryan Robinson
01-25-07, 23:34
I am black and would never do such a thing. If anything, I slip them an extra 500 pesos for a "Good Morning Bryan" :-)

Terry U
01-26-07, 01:21
Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.
Sorry you had a bad experience in the Capital, don't let it deter you because its not like that with most of the Dominicans. I am a Black american and I personally never had a problem at any of the casas in Santiago, I get admitted to the best clubs and lounges Santiago has to offer, eat in the best restaurants and have the best time with the girls in Santiago. I can go to Ahibar on any day, shake the managers hand, kiss the waitresses and by the end of the night I'll be at a table with cute santiagueras, taking pictures and exchanging phone numbers. It's generally the way you carry yourself in the DR and be forewarned, they are conservative and don't like or tolerate "tigueres", who are guys who dress up in hip-hop gear, i.e. big baggy pants, sneakers, & chain & earings. They don't socialize with them period, they're considered thugs and an embarrassment to decent dominicans. One of the main reasons young NYers get stared at. If you notice, dominicans won't even wear shorts, and they will wear a long button down shirts to the discos, even though its like 95 degrees. Hopefully, you'll have a better time, next time.

Bedroom Bully
01-26-07, 01:51
Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.I normally have that discrimination problem, when I go into MP's in the tourist areas. I think because of my color many of the women think that I am latino and would prefer not to deal with me, because they tell me that many times dominican men just pay the salida and pay the girl zero after having her all night lol

One time I was with a white friend and they asked me if I wanted a propina for bringing the tourist..I laughed and told her that we are both americans lol

Now I go for the clubs that the Dominicans go to and pay about 1500TLN and thats with my dominican friend getting his cut.

Then you can always befriend a dominican and get him to show you his area, and they will pretty much provide you access with all sisters, neices, cousins for gifts like a yankees hat, sneakers, etc.

Usboys
01-26-07, 01:53
Actually, I am dating a Dominican probably be going down often. I have been mongering in different countries for over 15 years. But was a little shock at the women in Casa Models which had the most girls, beside Girl House. I will however go back, because it is stupid where they must think all black guys will not pay the price. But this does not make much sense because you have to pay the house first. Thanks Ford I see you are truly the grandfather in room. Your story in Casinos is a classic. My girlfirend told me how to dress and I do not wear the hip - hop wear so this was not issue.

The best girl I was with was from Santiago. I believe one of guys mention her "Kathy" from the Girl House. I had no problems there and Black guy at the door showed me a great time. He said he was from New Jersey. She told I should go to Santiago next and gave me here # to call if I wanted to go. Again, I did not have bad time. But it was just a little different then Brazil and Costa Rica Mongering. Dominicans are definitely conservative people.


Sorry you had a bad experience in the Capital, don't let it deter you because its not like that with most of the Dominicans. I am a Black american and I personally never had a problem at any of the casas in Santiago, I get admitted to the best clubs and lounges Santiago has to offer, eat in the best restaurants and have the best time with the girls in Santiago. I can go to Ahibar on any day, shake the managers hand, kiss the waitresses and by the end of the night I'll be at a table with cute santiagueras, taking pictures and exchanging phone numbers. It's generally the way you carry yourself in the DR and be forewarned, they are conservative and don't like or tolerate "tigueres", who are guys who dress up in hip-hop gear, i.e. big baggy pants, sneakers, & chain & earings. They don't socialize with them period, they're considered thugs and an embarrassment to decent dominicans. One of the main reasons young NYers get stared at. If you notice, dominicans won't even wear shorts, and they will wear a long button down shirts to the discos, even though its like 95 degrees. Hopefully, you'll have a better time, next time.

Jazzy47
01-26-07, 07:20
USboys did not have a bad experience. He simply went into a casa and did not get any attention. It happens. When I go to Cristals in POP alone few of the girls will approach me. When I'm with a white friend they're all over him. There it has nothing to do with them not liking black guys. They simply think the white guy will pay more. I once strolled into Franks alone. The woman who runs the place went upstairs to alert the girls that a gringo was in the house. They all came running down the stairs, saw me, and almost in unison said, "where is the gringo". I found this funny. Truth is that 90% of casa girls will consider leaving with you if you are willing to meet their price. There will be always be some chick that doesn't want to go with you for what ever reason.

Contrary to popular belief not all casa girls like white guys. If you're a good looking gent like Ford you can have your pick, but if youre the average american counch potato you're going have some tough sledding. I'm an average looking black guy who happens to speak a little spanish and knows his way around a casa. I usually get what I want at the price I want it with out too much of a problem Not all girls will go with me, but the way I see they are missing out I'm not. As CrazySunny said, domincanas are some of the most approachable and agreeable women in the world. Just go have a good time, conduct yourself in gentlemenly fashion and ignore the ones so ignorant that they'll pass up on a good thing simply because of some prejudicial belief. Take my word for it you will be having some much fun you will not have time to contemplate what you may have missed out on.

George90
01-27-07, 02:42
Many hate Haitans because they think Haitans steal all the jobs and they think Haitans bring the country down cuz they do all the hard working jobs, whilke Dominicans hang out at the colmados dringing cerveza...Similar to what some red blooded, americans feel about Mexicans, but there is much more animosity down in the DR with the Haitans.

Its not uncommon to read in the papers about a whole Haitan neighborhoods being burned down by dominicans because of an accusation of a petty crime!
Yes like the deep south in the 1930's!

I have read about some of that in recent months. In eastern DR, near the border, there have been gang attacks on Haitians.

Marzo
01-27-07, 02:59
Not to turn the board into Race Relations 101, but Im fascinated by all the posts and am learning a lot. Thanks, guys.

And Ford, with whom I naively picked a fight with earlier... you do know your stuff.

Dominicans never cease to surprise me in their inability to see anyone other than a white person as "real" american. I have had people ask me if "Americanos" would vote for Obama or just "Prietos".

And these are pretty educated people if they know who the hell Obama is!

Im a newbie monger, but Im becoming more and more convinced that non-pro is the way to go. It's tough if you have only 3 days in the country, I guess. But the more time I spend, the more I find non-pro girls ready to go all over. It really has to do with an attitude adjustment that has taken me a long time to accept.

Dominican girls welcome being told what to do. They welcome a man taking control of the situation -- even ordering a passing girl, "Get over here" = "Ponte a mi la'o". Many girls will keep walking, but a surprising number will come to your side. And gorgeous ones at that. And all you will pay for is an ice cream or a lunch.

Never hesitate and never show ambivalence. If you take control of the situation, many girls will follow you. Firm hand and all of that.

Thanks for the good discussion, fellas. If anyone wants to get together in SD, let me know!

Marzo

Ford
01-27-07, 19:50
Marzo, your remarks are very inciteful.

I agree..... in a society that is categorized by its "machismo" ...men are generally expected to take charge of things, and be in control of the affairs of the house as well as those of the bedroom.

Generally speaking I think Dominicanas sense (and at times prey upon) the weaknesses in their men. This is true whether you're talking about a LT relationship with a man living on the island, or a week long "fling" with an American traveler.

If you learn how.... NOT to "play" the victim and you work at your language skills so that you have at least a reasonable command of Spanish - I think you will be well served by this - anywhere your travels take you in Latin America.

(Marzo - we never had a fight....and I apologize for calling you perverse);)

cheers.........

Usboys
01-28-07, 02:28
Marzo,

Have to agree, with what said about the Non-pros. My experiences were about the same as with women. I took girls to the McDonalds and Ice Parlor down street from the University. I could sense they like men who is respectful but take control. Which is the same I saw in Costa Rica and Brazil. They also knew American politics very well. I was impress they were aware of current American issues.


Not to turn the board into Race Relations 101, but Im fascinated by all the posts and am learning a lot. Thanks, guys.

And Ford, with whom I naively picked a fight with earlier... you do know your stuff.

Dominicans never cease to surprise me in their inability to see anyone other than a white person as "real" american. I have had people ask me if "Americanos" would vote for Obama or just "Prietos".

And these are pretty educated people if they know who the hell Obama is!

I'm a newbie monger, but Im becoming more and more convinced that non-pro is the way to go. It's tough if you have only 3 days in the country, I guess. But the more time I spend, the more I find non-pro girls ready to go all over. It really has to do with an attitude adjustment that has taken me a long time to accept.

Dominican girls welcome being told what to do. They welcome a man taking control of the situation -- even ordering a passing girl, "Get over here" = "Ponte a mi la'o". Many girls will keep walking, but a surprising number will come to your side. And gorgeous ones at that. And all you will pay for is an ice cream or a lunch.

Never hesitate and never show ambivalence. If you take control of the situation, many girls will follow you. Firm hand and all of that.

Thanks for the good discussion, fellas. If anyone wants to get together in SD, let me know!

Marzo

Yanqui69
01-28-07, 16:15
Just my two cents.

Despite whatever problems still linger, racial relations in the US are light-years ahead of Latin America. In all of Latin America (especially the classes of European origin) social classes are very important and deeply ingrained. Not only regarding blacks, either.

The indigenous peoples (Indians, or “Indios”) are considered very much lower in status.
In the US on the other hand, some people will brag about being “one-eighth Cherokee”, etc. In upper latin society, they can’t understand why someone would broadcast that fact.
(It would be like going around white Mississippi in the 30’s bragging about being one-eighth black).

I also find that in cultures without much material wealth, personal dignity is important. You can be poor, but you need to maintain your dignity. Your clothes may be old and worn, but they are clean. (Any memories for you older guys out there?) You might not have been rich, but your mother/grandmother insisted on such things.

I believe this explains some of the conservative Dominican culture. A “proper” man wears long pants in public. As was mentioned previously, when some American black guys show up decked out in their hip-hop outfits, it might impress the kids, but to most Dominicans, you might as well put up a flashing neon sign that says “Low Class.” I have also observed a table of chicas I was sitting with rolling their eyes at a bunch of (white) guys who were clearly stupid drunk. They were clearly disgusted. They were hookers, but they had certain cultural standards. A chica I have known for a couple of years would be considered “black” in American society, but when another chica referred to being “negra” (black) my friend firmly corrected her, saying that she wasn’t “negra”, but “morena.”

How one behaves in public and treats others in very important in such cultures. Treating a girl disrespectfully or abusively in public is not appreciated by anyone. She might toleratethe humilitation because she needs the money, -but that's all.
On the other hand, treating people (not just chicas) respectfully, politely is appreciated and earns a lot of points respect-wise. The loud, vulgar behavior of hip-hop types is only tolerated as long as they spend money, but behind their backs, they are looked down on, even by the chicas.

At one establishment, I sat having breakfast with my overnight companion and observed a young (stupid) hip-hop type as he left his two overnight girls waiting for their money while he talked with his pal at one of the tables. They laughed loudly and went on about the nights exploits while the girls sat outside the room waiting. After a while, he sent them on their way, without a an offer of breakfast or even a "gracias". My companion rolled her eyes and called them "cangrejos" (crabs). In other words, like insects; low life forms.
When a hooker looks down on you like trash, you are probably are trash.

To be respected, to have real status, act like a “caballero” (gentleman). It will pay great dividends in all sectors of Dominican society. In public, act with a little dignity and courtesy to the chicas and you will always be sought after. I speak Spanish. I smile, compliment them, treat them like women, not garbage, and they love it. In a society where it is important, respect and courtesy are very welcome.

They will always be happy to see you arrive, not glad to see you go.

regards,
Yanqui69



Not to turn the board into Race Relations 101, but Im fascinated by all the posts and am learning a lot. Thanks, guys.

And Ford, with whom I naively picked a fight with earlier... you do know your stuff.

Dominicans never cease to surprise me in their inability to see anyone other than a white person as "real" american. I have had people ask me if "Americanos" would vote for Obama or just "Prietos".

And these are pretty educated people if they know who the hell Obama is!

Im a newbie monger, but Im becoming more and more convinced that non-pro is the way to go. It's tough if you have only 3 days in the country, I guess. But the more time I spend, the more I find non-pro girls ready to go all over. It really has to do with an attitude adjustment that has taken me a long time to accept.

Dominican girls welcome being told what to do. They welcome a man taking control of the situation -- even ordering a passing girl, "Get over here" = "Ponte a mi la'o". Many girls will keep walking, but a surprising number will come to your side. And gorgeous ones at that. And all you will pay for is an ice cream or a lunch.

Never hesitate and never show ambivalence. If you take control of the situation, many girls will follow you. Firm hand and all of that.

Thanks for the good discussion, fellas. If anyone wants to get together in SD, let me know!

Marzo