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Flaco Loco
04-01-11, 03:40
Anyone going to SDQ in late May early June? I am trying to plan and am looking for regulars to hook up with for a beer. PM me if you are interested.
Cuba Tourist
04-01-11, 04:21
I need a good driver in SD for next weekend.
Going to SD first week in may. Cabs seem to be very expensive. Should I rent a car or is there a better way to get to my hotel. I will be staying at the Jargua Renaisance. Then moving to Boca Chica for three days. Is driving dificult. I would like to know what best options are.When staying at the Jaragua you might want to know the places to eat located near the Renaissance Jaragua. The Jaragua has two restaurants near the lobby, Champions Sport Bar / Restaurant and there is a restaurant near the doors for the pool. Champions I had a cheeseburger with fries and a soda and the price was about $20US. Jaragua sits on the malecon facing the sea. You can exit the Jaragua and with the Sea facing you, make a right on the malecon, at the next cross street to your right you will see a restaurant, I believe it is called La Parada (Boricua Online has eaten there) , if you continue walking west on the malecon, after about two blocks you will see on your left, Adrian's Tropical, a popular restaurant with Dominicans, it is open 24/7 and has seating near the water.
If you walk out the back exit for the Jaragua and through the rear gate for Avenida Independencia, you will see Manolos restaurant adjacent to the Hostal Riazor. Manolos has outdoor and indoor seating. A cheeseburger with fries and a soda is about $6US at Manolos.
If you make a right on Independencia after exiting the rear gate of the Jaragua, three blocks away is Villar Hernanos Restaurant, which sells hot food (chicken, mashed potatoes etc) , salads, fried things like empanadas, sandwiches and there is a bakery there.
If you exit the front of the Jaragua and go left (east) on the Malecon, eventually you will come to a plaza that juts out into the sea, that plaza has various small food places. On the other side of the malecon from that plaza there is a pizzarela restaurant. If you continue walking east, you will come to D Luis Parrilada. I ate there for the first time during my last trip, at a table that was near the sea, the food was good. Dinner price for two, was less than 27US.
There are other more expensive restaurants, if you want, La Bricola in Zona Colonial is romantic. Vesuvio on the Malecon, people say is good. You could venture to other restaurants on Avenida Lincoln, where there is Lincoln Road restaurant and others.
BlkPanther
04-03-11, 13:57
Thanks for this! I'll be in SD this coming Friday for the first time and this restaurant info is right on time!
When staying at the Jaragua you might want to know the places to eat located near the Renaissance Jaragua. The Jaragua has two restaurants near the lobby, Champions Sport Bar / Restaurant and there is a restaurant near the doors for the pool. Champions I had a cheeseburger with fries and a soda and the price was about $20US. Jaragua sits on the malecon facing the sea. You can exit the Jaragua and with the Sea facing you, make a right on the malecon, at the next cross street to your right you will see a restaurant, I believe it is called La Parada (Boricua Online has eaten there) , if you continue walking west on the malecon, after about two blocks you will see on your left, Adrian's Tropical, a popular restaurant with Dominicans, it is open 24/7 and has seating near the water.
If you walk out the back exit for the Jaragua and through the rear gate for Avenida Independencia, you will see Manolos restaurant adjacent to the Hostal Riazor. Manolos has outdoor and indoor seating. A cheeseburger with fries and a soda is about $6US at Manolos.
If you make a right on Independencia after exiting the rear gate of the Jaragua, three blocks away is Villar Hernanos Restaurant, which sells hot food (chicken, mashed potatoes etc) , salads, fried things like empanadas, sandwiches and there is a bakery there.
If you exit the front of the Jaragua and go left (east) on the Malecon, eventually you will come to a plaza that juts out into the sea, that plaza has various small food places. On the other side of the malecon from that plaza there is a pizzarela restaurant. If you continue walking east, you will come to D Luis Parrilada. I ate there for the first time during my last trip, at a table that was near the sea, the food was good. Dinner price for two, was less than 27US.
There are other more expensive restaurants, if you want, La Bricola in Zona Colonial is romantic. Vesuvio on the Malecon, people say is good. You could venture to other restaurants on Avenida Lincoln, where there is Lincoln Road restaurant and others.
Riky Rapido
04-03-11, 16:15
Thanks for this! I'll be in SD this coming Friday for the first time and this restaurant info is right on time!I ordered a pair of fried eggs, toast, two small sausage, and orange juice and the bill came to 350 pesos! WTF! This is what I got for not renting a room at the Riazor where breakfast is included, be careful, prices in STO have gone sky high at other locations too
Hillbilly69
04-03-11, 16:38
I ordered a pair of fried eggs, toast, two small sausage, and orange juice and the bill came to 350 pesos! WTF! This is what I got for not renting a room at the Riazor where breakfast is included, be careful, prices in STO have gone sky high at other locations tooThat's nothing. I got a 800 peso draft from Hard Rock Cafe in January. I about had a heart attack. But I should have know better than hang out there seeing most of those are a little pricey.
I ordered a pair of fried eggs, toast, two small sausage, and orange juice and the bill came to 350 pesos! WTF! This is what I got for not renting a room at the Riazor where breakfast is included, be careful, prices in STO have gone sky high at other locations too
That's nothing. I got a 800 peso draft from Hard Rock Cafe in January. I about had a heart attack. But I should have know better than hang out there seeing most of those are a little pricey.At one time or another I have probably eaten at just about every restaurant mentioned in this thread. Sometimes I too was shocked when I got the final bill. I would ask myself was it worth it? In a lot of cases the answer would be no. There are alternatives if you are looking to save a few bucks. I usually eat a few meals from the cheapie joints and treat myself once in awhile at the well known establishments.
You can easily fill your gut for 100 pesos just by eating where the locals eat. In the morning I will get two fresh squeezed orange juices from the street vendor at 20 pesos each. On Avenida Independencia just east of Hotel Venezia is a corner restaurant which has breakfast specials for 100 pesos and a small plastic cup of café is 10 pesos. If you walk towards El Conde by the park is another very small restaurant where the cab drivers hang out at. Café here is 5 pesos for a small plastic cup.
Plaza Juan Baron on the malecon has a Rico hot dog place and every Tuesday is hot dog special at 50 pesos with everything on it. In the same plaza is a chicken joint you can get two pieces of chicken, mashed potatoes or fries, a roll, and a soda for 100 pesos. Across from the plaza are several outdoor grills where sandwiches are 100-125 pesos. Up the street evening hours is New Jersey Parillada which has excellent food from sandwiches to grilled chicken or beef platters. A meal and a Presidente will set you back about 250 pesos here.
Plato del dia is a local biggie in the DR. Any comedor where you see a lot of locals eating can pretty much guarantee a decent meal for 100 pesos. Again up the street from the monument on the malecon is the Justice Building. There are several comedors in this area all serving plato del dia. Across the street from La Cadena supermarket on Cervantes is another comedor serving the 100 pesos meal. What is a 'plato del dia'? Simply the lunch meal special of the day. Most cases it will be a ton of rice, beans, meat, and salad all served in a gorgeous white plastic container with plastic fork and knife included at no extra charge.
Late night on Calle Pasteur between Independencia and the casas is a very small food stand. 100 pesos will get you chicken wings and spaghetti or your choice of a few other selections. One of my favorites is Nacional Supermercado on 27 de febreo. I will stop here sometimes if headed to GBP. Nacional has a hot food section where you can eat in or take out. Sometimes I may get a whole baked chicken and a package of cotton soft rolls to eat later that evening.
Chicas will eat anything so no need to spend a lot of money to feed them. It never made sense to me why someone would treat a chica to a nice meal costing a couple thousand pesos and than want to try to negotiate a TLN for 1500 pesos.
When all else fails the old standby is one of many Pica Pollo. Just take a look at how many locals go in and out of the Pica Pollos on any given day.
Now I am not a cheapie all the time, so one other spot to add to the previously mentioned list would be El Conuco one block up from Manolos make a right and 50 yards in you will find this favorite tourist restaurant with a Dominican flair. Trust me, you have to eat here at least once to see the live dance show performed by the staff.
Gotta go, I'm getting hungry..............
Thanks for this! I'll be in SD this coming Friday for the first time and this restaurant info is right on time!Staying at the Renaissance Jaragua Hotel and Casino with a DR chica will be fun. Jaragua has a nice pool which usually has very few people. If your chica does not have a bathing suit, she can buy one on el conde in zona colonial. The store named California, El Conde and Calle Duarte, sells women's bathing suits starting at around 200 pesos.
In the late evening take your chica to Coppa and let her stand in front of you with her ass on your crotch and let her grind you, while you check out the other eye candy in the place. The Melia Casino at night has lots of people.
If you booked online using Orbitz for the Jaragua and chose the least expensive option, more than likely they will put you in the garden section. Rooms there have view of the parking lot. You will be closer to avenida independencia and manolos restaurant from the garden section. You could always try to call the Jaragua and ask if they can upgrade you to a tower section room. Tower section is the main part of the hotel, with rooms on higher floors with views of the sea. Tower section rooms were much nicer when I stayed at the Jaragua.
When I stayed in the garden section, I had to pay about $20 per day for wifi internet and no free breakfast.
If your chica is not with you when you check into the Jaragua, you MUST give her full name at the time of check-in, otherwise when she arrives, they may not let her into your room. I once gave the names of three different chicas who I knew would be visiting me at the Jaragua and they were allowed to my room, no problem.
Valet parking and normal parking at the Jaragua.
About three blocks from the rear entrance of the Jaragua (avenida independencia) there is a la cadena supermarket which has good prices for beer, soda, chips, liquor etc. Walk out the rear entrance and make a right on Independencia, after two blocks make a left on Calle Cervantes (you will see the PLD Political Party headquarters on this corner). Walk up one block from Independencia on calle cervantes and you will see the La Cadena supermarket on your left. Mini-bar prices in the hotel are ridiculously expensive.
Having a DR chica with you 24/7 for more than two days, you may want to have something to keep her occupied or entertained. I usually bring some DVD movies that have English and Spanish soundtracks. Rome the HBO series is available with a Spanish language track. The chica can watch it using your laptop or if you will not bring a laptop, you can buy a small Coby DVD player for around $20US that you can hook up to the TV in the hotel room. You could leave the chica watching a movie while you go out and explore.
I ordered a pair of fried eggs, toast, two small sausage, and orange juice and the bill came to 350 pesos! WTF! This is what I got for not renting a room at the Riazor where breakfast is included, be careful, prices in STO have gone sky high at other locations tooI have not been in Manolos in about three months, last time I was there a burger with fries was about 150 pesos ($4US).26% in taxes are added to most restaurant bills.
At D'Luis Parrilada on the Malecon, I had the Fajiata Mexicana Mixta for around 329 pesos ($8. 89US) and the chica I was with ordered the Pincho de filete de res (chunks of good beef on a skewer) for around 399 pesos ($10. 78US). With soda and coffee, the bill including taxes was less than 1000 pesos ($27US) , food was good and nice atmosphere overlooking the water; http://www.menu.com.do/restaurante-170/DLuisParrillada.html
Mustards Burger shop on Ave. Roberto Pastoriza has burgers starting at 200 pesos: http://www.mustards.com.do/
Chef Pepper on Ave. Gustavo Mejia Ricart has burgers starting at 185 pesos ($5US) ; http://www.menu.com.do/restaurante-415/ChefPepper.html
Fellini restaurant on Ave. Roberto Pastoriza, I have been told is good; http://www.menu.com.do/restaurante-470/Fellini.html
Fried chicken with bones and fries at pica pollo places about 100 pesos. Pechurina (boneless fried chicken strips) with fries, are a little more, about 120 pesos.
A Gazcue neighborhood activist was featured in today's Listin compalining of inaction the authorities to eliminate casas, street girls, colmadones, and street vendors. The group is complaining of general disorder, the poor condition of roads and sidewalks, and the number of street vendors. There is a call for the municipal government and the police and politur to take action. It is mentioned that crackdowns took place but they were recently suspended.
It's no big loss in my opinion. The truth is it will just move to another area as it always has.
A Gazcue neighborhood activist was featured in today's Listin compalining of inaction the authorities to eliminate casas, street girls, colmadones, and street vendors. The group is complaining of general disorder, the poor condition of roads and sidewalks, and the number of street vendors. There is a call for the municipal government and the police and politur to take action. It is mentioned that crackdowns took place but they were recently suspended.
It's no big loss in my opinion. The truth is it will just move to another area as it always has.The streets in Gazcue are in good shape, if those people want to see some bad roads they should visit Santiago. When I was in Santo Domingo they were repaving parts of the Malecon and one night some streets in Gazcue were blocked off, supposedly for repaving.
Sidewalks in Gazcue have some large open holes that should be covered. I did not see an over abundance of street vendors on Avenida Independencia, some guys selling fruit, that workers in the area were buying.
The street walkers will not disappear, as you said, they will just move to other locations.
Plaza Deportiva, Avenida Pasteur 8 (between the Malecon and Avenida Independencia) , Gazcue, Santo Domingo, tel: 809-687-2239, has batting cages, snack bar (that sells beer) and according to the sign has pool tables. The place is on the same street as Satin Dolls, Sky High and Girls House. I have not been inside the place yet. Some DR chicas like to play pool, an option for an inexpensive date for mongers who stay in Gazcue.
Penthouse, Calle Coanabo #10, Apartamento #402, Plaza Irene, Los Restauradores, Santo Domingo, tel: 809-537-0458. Pay for pay venue located on the roof of a building. The entrance is on Avenida Caonabo a few hundred feet north of Avenida 27 de Febrero, on the left hand side. Avenida Caonabo is few blocks east of Plaza de Banderas, at least a 15 minute car ride from Gazcue. Good mix of chicas when I visited one time. Being outdoors on top of the roof was a nice setting. I don't know pricing and I don't know if they have rooms on site, I was there over a year ago, call before you go.
BoricuaOnline
04-04-11, 00:13
If you booked online using Orbitz for the Jaragua and chose the least expensive option, more than likely they will put you in the garden section. Rooms there have view of the parking lot. .If you book your Jaragua room directly to Marriot webpage instead of Travelocity / Orbitz etc. You are going to save the hotel a fee to be paid to these travel webpages that can be as high as 28%; that means you are in a better position to get a room upgrade if you book using hotel webpage. Last time I stayed at Jaragua I get a double upgrade: from garden to tower and from tower to tower executive level.
Riky Rapido
04-04-11, 01:44
That's nothing. I got a 800 peso draft from Hard Rock Cafe in January. I about had a heart attack. But I should have know better than hang out there seeing most of those are a little pricey.800 pesos for a draft, let's calculate that for the readers, the current exchange rate is 37. 7 to the buck, that would translate into a mug of beer that costs a little over 21 bucks, yes, $21, yeow! A street walker goes for 1000 to 1500, welcome to gringo land!
800 pesos for a draft, let's calculate that for the readers, the current exchange rate is 37. 7 to the buck, that would translate into a mug of beer that costs a little over 21 bucks, yes, $21, yeow! A street walker goes for 1000 to 1500, welcome to gringo land!I have been to the Hard Rock cafe in Zona Colonial many times, a small bottle of Presidente beer is about 200 pesos ($5. 40). I was at Hard Rock cafe one night and they offered a special on large bottles of presidente beer. Hard Rock cafe is not a cheap place, but you pay extra for location and the ambiance of the place, with clothes worn by famous musicians (Elton John, Madonna, Lenny Kravitz etc) hanging on the walls. On the weekends, sometimes live music inside.
BlkPanther
04-04-11, 06:45
Just before I get there somebody wants to screw up the 'sidewalk sally' trade. I prefer them to the houses where if you want to play, you have to pay the asking price. I only trade with the 'independent' wg's in Brazil. Never was too turned on by the termas'.
Oh well, maybe the casinos near the Jaguar will have some possibilities. The 'casas' are my fall-back plan.
A Gazcue neighborhood activist was featured in today's Listin compalining of inaction the authorities to eliminate casas, street girls, colmadones, and street vendors. The group is complaining of general disorder, the poor condition of roads and sidewalks, and the number of street vendors. There is a call for the municipal government and the police and politur to take action. It is mentioned that crackdowns took place but they were recently suspended.
It's no big loss in my opinion. The truth is it will just move to another area as it always has.
Just before I get there somebody wants to screw up the 'sidewalk sally' trade. I prefer them to the houses where if you want to play, you have to pay the asking price. I only trade with the 'independent' wg's in Brazil. Never was too turned on by the termas'.
Oh well, maybe the casinos near the Jaguar will have some possibilities. The 'casas' are my fall-back plan. The crackdown on Streetwalkers in Gazcue began over 6 months ago. There are still SWs in Santo Domingo. The SWs are just not in huge volumes in Gazcue, like they were before.
My prior post where I quoted your prior post, was geared towards ISG member Oldkool, who will be staying at the Jaragua Hotel Casino with a DR chica from Punta Cana.
If I remember correctly, you may be staying at the Jaguar Hotel (Jaragua and Jaguar are two different hotels). The chica friendly Jaguar hotel is located about two blocks behind the Jaragua Hotel and Casino.
Staying at the Jaguar you will be about two blocks from the La Cadena supermarket, go left when you leave Jaguar, then make a left at the next cross street and walk straight and after two blocks will be the La Cadena supermarket. Across the street from the La Cadena supermarket is a small inexpensive place that sells food.
Go left after exiting the Jaguar and two blocks later will be Manolos and you will see the rear entrance for the Jaragua.
Streetwalkers can still be found on Indenpendencia, as well as on El Conde in zona colonial.
To me, any enclosed pay for venue is a casa, I call GBP a casa even though the chicas don't live there. GBP and Palacio de Playboy (zona colonial) have prices starting at 1000 pesos. Club MC and Pink Pony have advertised in the past, prices starting at 1000 pesos.
If you want to see all the SWs, then you will need a car, try to find a taxi driver who will not try to rip you off. There is a Dominican taxi driver named Louis who stands outside Coppa every night, I would suggest you not use him. A one way taxi fare from Jaguar to Avenida Churchill (aka Ave Jimenez Moya) at night after 8pm, should be about 150 pesos. On my past few trips I have seen SWs near Avenida Churchill at its intersection with the Malecon, also on the Malecon near Princess Cabanas.
ISG member Knowledge has also listed other areas where SWs can be found, he posted those locations recently.
Hillbilly69
04-04-11, 12:08
I have been to the Hard Rock cafe in Zona Colonial many times, a small bottle of Presidente beer is about 200 pesosHere is the receipt 700 peso beer and I left a 100 peso tip so 800 pesos. All I asked for was a beer, it still took them 40 minutes. 20 minutes till I got a waiter, another 20 to actually get the beer. Moral to story is don't get a Draft beer!
BoricuaOnline
04-04-11, 14:13
Here is the receipt 700 peso beer and I left a 100 peso tip so 800 pesos. All I asked for was a beer, it still took them 40 minutes. 20 minutes till I got a waiter, another 20 to actually get the beer. Moral to story is don't get a Draft beer!700 pesos divided between 3 beers is 233. 33 per beer, right. The bill say he has 2 free refills. It also says Pilsner 1,2,3 so it took 40 minutes for the beer and 20 for the waiter you should have drunk 3 beers in 3 hours for 693 pesos and leave the place sober, lol.
Hillbilly69
04-04-11, 14:18
700 pesos divided between 3 beers is 233. 33 per beer, right. The bill say he has 2 free refills. It also saysOne beer. Free refills had two sipps out of first beer and left.
Just before I get there somebody wants to screw up the 'sidewalk sally' trade. I prefer them to the houses where if you want to play, you have to pay the asking price. I only trade with the 'independent' wg's in Brazil. Never was too turned on by the termas'.
Oh well, maybe the casinos near the Jaguar will have some possibilities. The 'casas' are my fall-back plan. Back in November/December of last year the Policia Nacional came down hard and heavy on the SW. One gigantic broom and they swept the SW off the streets in Gazcue. There are reports of SW in different areas but that means driving around town to find these locations. The Gazcue SW were ideal because a monger could walk out of his hotel and in the past would find 50 or so SW within a five minute walk. BlkPanter sorry to report and confirm those days are over with.
You will read a few reports of SW being available but the truth is there are few and far between. You might find a few independents in Jaragua Casino, maybe? One of the larger hangout corners for the SW now sells paintings. The SW used to be on the Malecon but now the only thing you will find on the Malecon are taxi drivers. The late night candy vendor no more has the SW buying candy and gum. He sits alone without a SW in sight.
Knowledge posted a report on the locations where SW are now available, but you will need a car. My thought on picking up a SW is to do it on foot. I used to like walking the streets and check the chica out before closing the deal. Trying to pick up a SW in a car is not the way to do it, at least for me.
The most recent report there are a few, very few SW out but you need to keep a constant look out for them.
BTW, where are you staying? Jaragua Hotel/Casino or Jaguar Apart/Hotel
Here is the receipt 700 peso beer and I left a 100 peso tip so 800 pesos. All I asked for was a beer, it still took them 40 minutes. 20 minutes till I got a waiter, another 20 to actually get the beer. Moral to story is don't get a Draft beer!Service can suck at the Hard Rock Cafe at times. I once took two chicas there and sat outside and waited for a waitress. After waiting awhile, I got up and went to Segafredo, where they have the Beds (one block east on El Conde from hard rock cafe) , I laid on the beds at Segafredo and drank beer with the chicas. Waiting for your change or credit card receipt can sometimes take a while at Hard Rock Cafe.
Hard Rock cafe has some cute waitresses.
Hillbilly69
04-04-11, 21:38
Hard Rock cafe has some cute waitresses.I think my waiter was sniffing around the help which is probably why the service sucked.
I prefer the cafe adjoining Hard Rock 500 peso Lobster and steak special not to mention easier to get chair closest to Conde to cut off the girls walking by. Its hard as hell to get good chair back to the South on the Conde all those older gringos and Europeans have the good chairs for girl watching-Bastards!
What a awesome report.
Thanks so much. I will be staying at jarqua in early May with my Chica this report was awesome. I am printing it out.
Staying at the Renaissance Jaragua Hotel and Casino with a DR chica will be fun. Jaragua has a nice pool which usually has very few people. If your chica does not have a bathing suit, she can buy one on el conde in zona colonial. The store named California, El Conde and Calle Duarte, sells women's bathing suits starting at around 200 pesos.
In the late evening take your chica to Coppa and let her stand in front of you with her ass on your crotch and let her grind you, while you check out the other eye candy in the place. The Melia Casino at night has lots of people.
If you booked online using Orbitz for the Jaragua and chose the least expensive option, more than likely they will put you in the garden section. Rooms there have view of the parking lot. You will be closer to avenida independencia and manolos restaurant from the garden section. You could always try to call the Jaragua and ask if they can upgrade you to a tower section room. Tower section is the main part of the hotel, with rooms on higher floors with views of the sea. Tower section rooms were much nicer when I stayed at the Jaragua.
When I stayed in the garden section, I had to pay about $20 per day for wifi internet and no free breakfast.
If your chica is not with you when you check into the Jaragua, you MUST give her full name at the time of check-in, otherwise when she arrives, they may not let her into your room. I once gave the names of three different chicas who I knew would be visiting me at the Jaragua and they were allowed to my room, no problem.
Valet parking and normal parking at the Jaragua.
About three blocks from the rear entrance of the Jaragua (avenida independencia) there is a la cadena supermarket which has good prices for beer, soda, chips, liquor etc. Walk out the rear entrance and make a right on Independencia, after two blocks make a left on Calle Cervantes (you will see the PLD Political Party headquarters on this corner). Walk up one block from Independencia on calle cervantes and you will see the La Cadena supermarket on your left. Mini-bar prices in the hotel are ridiculously expensive.
Having a DR chica with you 24/7 for more than two days, you may want to have something to keep her occupied or entertained. I usually bring some DVD movies that have English and Spanish soundtracks. Rome the HBO series is available with a Spanish language track. The chica can watch it using your laptop or if you will not bring a laptop, you can buy a small Coby DVD player for around $20US that you can hook up to the TV in the hotel room. You could leave the chica watching a movie while you go out and explore.
What a awesome report.
Thanks so much. I will be staying at jarqua in early May with my Chica this report was awesome. I am printing it out.All of the guys on this site go to DR to have fun. I hope you have a lot of fun. I have learned from this site and I am thankful when other guys post information, as well as trip reports.
BoricuaOnline
04-06-11, 04:05
I was two blocks away from Playboy Palace so after reading BQ Ribs email with the 'do not forget to visit Playboy Palace note' I decided to visit the place. The street that connects Paseo del Conde to Playboy Palace street is dark, it was 8:00 p. M, I recognized the place because of a picture posted in the forum. I pushed the bell but nobody answered, I tried a couple of times more, no answer. I called and one of the girls told me they were showering, a non verbal action for: 'we do not expect more clients today'. A minute later Rosa opened the door wearing a towel. Rosa is the big tits blonde that appears in the Mundo Anuncio classified ad pictures, the girl I wanted to see. She is a little chubby but has a pretty face, big tits. At that time there were 5 other girls in the place, ranking for the girls were from 'mmmm! ' to 'no, thank you'. Rosa told me that there are 15 girls working there and that they send off a couple of the original girls because of some complaints. I asked her about the 1000 pesos special and she replied 'let me ask the manager'. My brain, moistened by some Presidentes reasoned 'it is no good, they are going to try to profit on me'. She told me it is 1500 for two chicas plus 500 for the room. Then she began to seduce me while I was drinking a beer, another girl grabbed me on some body parts I can't mention here because I went to church once in 1997 and it is a sin to mention words like cock. They convinced me I paid 2000 plus the beer.
We entered a room with an a/c see that was near the ceiling at 300 meters of distance. It was not that high but the ceiling is high. That air conditioner was not enough potent to cool the room but at least it worked a little. I was kissing titty blonde and playing with her tits while the other was giving me a BBBJ. We moved to the bed and continued the foreplay, the brunette chica took a condom and put it on me. Then she was on me and I was in her. I was more interested in busty blonde than in her, I noticed milk on Rosa's breasts. Brunette moved out, another condom and then Rosa was riding over me. Brunette chica left the room while I was with Rosa, I was not interested in her anyway. I cum while Rosa was over me but it was so nice that I left her ride a little more. A little milk from her breasts spurted into one of my eyes while she was riding me. The other girl entered and they were naked beside me. We chatted a little, Rosa told me the place is owned by her best friend and her friend's husband. They opened a few months ago. We dressed and moved to the bar area. Rosa began with the girlfriend game in the bar area, she was with the how cute, nice I was etc. That she felt in love with me, that it is the first time that happened to her and that she was sorry I was leaving in hours back to Puerto Rico. She was deep kissing me as if she was my girlfriend. This part was as nice as sex with her. I detected she was seducing me to began a WU relation but who cares, I was enjoying the moment. I told Rosa I have a friend in Puerto Rico that looks similar to her and asked if she was a twin. The most surprising thing is that they both have the same last names but inverted. I have to investigate that, LOL. She requested my msn, we have had a few msn webcam sessions. Later on Monday after I was back home I read Playboy Palace Mundo Anuncio ad for the day I visited the place: '1000 pesos one chica. 1500 two chicas, free room with air conditioner plus a welcome drink or beer for free. I paid 500 pesos for the room and I do not know hom much for the beer. At least I got a free shot of breast milk, LOL. If you decide to visit the place check if there is a chica you like, at least I can certify that the chicas on classified ads works there, pics are not fake as some people on mundo anuncio stated. Ask for the 1000 pesos special, the 2 chicas for 1500 is not worth it, no real 3some experience. On my way from PP to my hotel I saw street girls back of Parque Independencia near the TV station. Is that a tranvestite area?
I spent my last 3 hours with my sexy driver and my busty amiga, two girls I usually spent time with for non sex company. We had a nice time on Adrian Tropical. The girls took me back to Riazor, I was tempted to go to Coppa but once I touched my bed it was zzzzzzzzzz!
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I exchanged at 37. 6 at Franks, two days later at 37. 75 in Boca Chica exchange house on Duarte St.
Viagra works better than la Pela. I have read that 10% of all pills sold in the world are fake and that percentage is higher with erectile dysfunction pills. I felt no side effects while using la Pela, I felt the heat and the other side effects related to Viagra use. I get my Viagra pill for free from a friend that works at Walgreens.
Wow no body writes a better report then you. Are you a professional writer. If not you missed your calling. I have had a few 3somes in my day. Much as you say they are overrated. I am meeting my PC chica in SD. She is actually from SD. She is giving me a great GF treatment. She has some kink to her. I think she would go for a 3 some. I am not sure how she would work the GF stuff with a 3some mixed in.
I was two blocks away from Playboy Palace so after reading BQ Ribs email with the 'do not forget to visit Playboy Palace note' I decided to visit the place. The street that connects Paseo del Conde to Playboy Palace street is dark, it was 8:00 p. M, I recognized the place because of a picture posted in the forum. I pushed the bell but nobody answered, I tried a couple of times more, no answer. I called and one of the girls told me they were showering, a non verbal action for: 'we do not expect more clients today'. A minute later Rosa opened the door wearing a towel. Rosa is the big tits blonde that appears in the Mundo Anuncio classified ad pictures, the girl I wanted to see. She is a little chubby but has a pretty face, big tits. At that time there were 5 other girls in the place, ranking for the girls were from 'mmmm! ' to 'no, thank you'. Rosa told me that there are 15 girls working there and that they send off a couple of the original girls because of some complaints. I asked her about the 1000 pesos special and she replied 'let me ask the manager'. My brain, moistened by some Presidentes reasoned 'it is no good, they are going to try to profit on me'. She told me it is 1500 for two chicas plus 500 for the room. Then she began to seduce me while I was drinking a beer, another girl grabbed me on some body parts I can't mention here because I went to church once in 1997 and it is a sin to mention words like cock. They convinced me I paid 2000 plus the beer.
We entered a room with an a / see see that was near the ceiling at 300 meters of distance. It was not that high but the ceiling is high. That air conditioner was not enough potent to cool the room but at least it worked a little. I was kissing titty blonde and playing with her tits while the other was giving me a BBBJ. We moved to the bed and continued the foreplay, the brunette chica took a condom and put it on me. Then she was on me and I was in her. I was more interested in busty blonde than in her, I noticed milk on Rosa's breasts. Brunette moved out, another condom and then Rosa was riding over me. Brunette chica left the room while I was with Rosa, I was not interested in her anyway. I cum while Rosa was over me but it was so nice that I left her ride a little more. A little milk from her breasts spurted into one of my eyes while she was riding me. The other girl entered and they were naked beside me. We chatted a little, Rosa told me the place is owned by her best friend and her friend's husband. They opened a few months ago. We dressed and moved to the bar area. Rosa began with the girlfriend game in the bar area, she was with the how cute, nice I was etc. That she felt in love with me, that it is the first time that happened to her and that she was sorry I was leaving in hours back to Puerto Rico. She was deep kissing me as if she was my girlfriend. This part was as nice as sex with her. I detected she was seducing me to began a WU relation but who cares, I was enjoying the moment. I told Rosa I have a friend in Puerto Rico that looks similar to her and asked if she was a twin. The most surprising thing is that they both have the same last names but inverted. I have to investigate that, LOL. She requested my msn, we have had a few msn webcam sessions. Later on Monday after I was back home I read Playboy Palace Mundo Anuncio ad for the day I visited the place: '1000 pesos one chica. 1500 two chicas, free room with air conditioner plus a welcome drink or beer for free. I paid 500 pesos for the room and I do not know hom much for the beer. At least I got a free shot of breast milk, LOL. If you decide to visit the place check if there is a chica you like, at least I can certify that the chicas on classified ads works there, pics are not fake as some people on mundo anuncio stated. Ask for the 1000 pesos special, the 2 chicas for 1500 is not worth it, no real 3some experience. On my way from PP to my hotel I saw street girls back of Parque Independencia near the TV station. Is that a tranvestite area?
I spent my last 3 hours with my sexy driver and my busty amiga, two girls I usually spent time with for non sex company. We had a nice time on Adrian Tropical. The girls took me back to Riazor, I was tempted to go to Coppa but once I touched my bed it was zzzzzzzzzz!
Short comments:
I exchanged at 37. 6 at Franks, two days later at 37. 75 in Boca Chica exchange house on Duarte St.
Viagra works better than la Pela. I have read that 10% of all pills sold in the world are fake and that percentage is higher with erectile dysfunction pills. I felt no side effects while using la Pela, I felt the heat and the other side effects related to Viagra use. I get my Viagra pill for free from a friend that works at Walgreens.
I was two blocks away from Playboy Palace so after reading BQ Ribs email with the 'do not forget to visit Playboy Palace note' I decided to visit the place. The street that connects Paseo del Conde to Playboy Palace street is dark, it was 8:00 p. M, I recognized the place because of a picture posted in the forum. I pushed the bell but nobody answered, I tried a couple of times more, no answer. I called and one of the girls told me they were showering, a non verbal action for: 'we do not expect more clients today'. A minute later Rosa opened the door wearing a towel. Rosa is the big tits blonde that appears in the Mundo Anuncio classified ad pictures, the girl I wanted to see. She is a little chubby but has a pretty face, big tits. At that time there were 5 other girls in the place, ranking for the girls were from 'mmmm! ' to 'no, thank you'. Rosa told me that there are 15 girls working there and that they send off a couple of the original girls because of some complaints. I asked her about the 1000 pesos special and she replied 'let me ask the manager'. My brain, moistened by some Presidentes reasoned 'it is no good, they are going to try to profit on me'. She told me it is 1500 for two chicas plus 500 for the room. Then she began to seduce me while I was drinking a beer, another girl grabbed me on some body parts I can't mention here because I went to church once in 1997 and it is a sin to mention words like cock. They convinced me I paid 2000 plus the beer.
We entered a room with an a / see see that was near the ceiling at 300 meters of distance. It was not that high but the ceiling is high. That air conditioner was not enough potent to cool the room but at least it worked a little. I was kissing titty blonde and playing with her tits while the other was giving me a BBBJ. We moved to the bed and continued the foreplay, the brunette chica took a condom and put it on me. Then she was on me and I was in her. I was more interested in busty blonde than in her, I noticed milk on Rosa's breasts. Brunette moved out, another condom and then Rosa was riding over me. Brunette chica left the room while I was with Rosa, I was not interested in her anyway. I cum while Rosa was over me but it was so nice that I left her ride a little more. A little milk from her breasts spurted into one of my eyes while she was riding me. The other girl entered and they were naked beside me. We chatted a little, Rosa told me the place is owned by her best friend and her friend's husband. They opened a few months ago. We dressed and moved to the bar area. Rosa began with the girlfriend game in the bar area, she was with the how cute, nice I was etc. That she felt in love with me, that it is the first time that happened to her and that she was sorry I was leaving in hours back to Puerto Rico. She was deep kissing me as if she was my girlfriend. This part was as nice as sex with her. I detected she was seducing me to began a WU relation but who cares, I was enjoying the moment. I told Rosa I have a friend in Puerto Rico that looks similar to her and asked if she was a twin. The most surprising thing is that they both have the same last names but inverted. I have to investigate that, LOL. She requested my msn, we have had a few msn webcam sessions. Later on Monday after I was back home I read Playboy Palace Mundo Anuncio ad for the day I visited the place: '1000 pesos one chica. 1500 two chicas, free room with air conditioner plus a welcome drink or beer for free. I paid 500 pesos for the room and I do not know hom much for the beer. At least I got a free shot of breast milk, LOL. If you decide to visit the place check if there is a chica you like, at least I can certify that the chicas on classified ads works there, pics are not fake as some people on mundo anuncio stated. Ask for the 1000 pesos special, the 2 chicas for 1500 is not worth it, no real 3some experience. On my way from PP to my hotel I saw street girls back of Parque Independencia near the TV station. Is that a tranvestite area?
I spent my last 3 hours with my sexy driver and my busty amiga, two girls I usually spent time with for non sex company. We had a nice time on Adrian Tropical. The girls took me back to Riazor, I was tempted to go to Coppa but once I touched my bed it was zzzzzzzzzz!
Short comments:
I exchanged at 37. 6 at Franks, two days later at 37. 75 in Boca Chica exchange house on Duarte St.
Viagra works better than la Pela. I have read that 10% of all pills sold in the world are fake and that percentage is higher with erectile dysfunction pills. I felt no side effects while using la Pela, I felt the heat and the other side effects related to Viagra use. I get my Viagra pill for free from a friend that works at Walgreens.Very funny.
Thanks for posting the taxi prices in your prior posts. With Apolo you paid less than 200 pesos for most of your taxi cab rides. I will put the phone number of Apolo taxi in my DR cell.
GuyLuvsParty
04-06-11, 18:30
I would like to thank the entire contributor's on ISG forum that made this trip possible it is much appreciated! The Google Santo Domingo map is a must have and its awesome to get a sense of location, distance, directions, and important notes.
Since this is my First trip to DR and not speaking Spanish, this forum gave me all the insights to have a successful fun trip so far. Still in Santo Domingo and giving a short trip report while everything is still fresh in the mind.
Sunday landing early evening at SDQ, purchased 2 Baileys Irish Cream Coffee (The locals love the re-freshment) 1 liter bottles for 35USD at duty free baggage claim arrival area, there is another duty free shop before the arrival area, don't purchase from that one unless you like higher prices. Upstairs on the 2nd floor is the Pharmacy and also caught a taxi from the departure area for 30USD, the taxi dispatcher wanted 35usd originally until I started walking away. Off to the Hostel Riazor which was around 30 min ride, paid 60USD single with balcony which includes a safe (with a key, bummer) , not a bad lite breakfast which has coffee, juice, and small portion of eggs / meat with outdoor seating to enjoy the ambience. The person's managing the front desk can speak English. Since my room is on the 1st floor (really 2nd floor) can get a weak Wi-Fi internet connection. I would rate this 2. 5 star hotel which is clean, decor is nice and guest friendly. This could be a deal breaker for some people, there is construction noise going on between the hotel and the restaurant which starts after 8am.
305 is pretty accurate on what other's has reviewed, owner and Willie the manager speaks good English. Willie was very helpful and he also got an employee to get me a Claro 500 min pre-paid sim chip for 800RD.
GPB is like other's have talked about this place is pretty awesome if you don't mind the furnishings.
Once outside Hostel Riazor, just make a left and walked down a few blocks Av. Independence has a pharmacy (bank inside & cell phone sim cards) , supermarket, restaurant, small store called Colmado Altagracia on Av. Independencia no. 25 the owner speak a little English to purchase small items like water, soda, snacks and the price is reasonable.
To be continued;
I was two blocks away from Playboy Palace so after reading BQ Ribs email with the 'do not forget to visit Playboy Palace note' I decided to visit the place. The street that connects Paseo del Conde to Playboy Palace street is dark, it was 8:00 p. M, I recognized the place because of a picture posted in the forum. I pushed the bell but nobody answered, I tried a couple of times more, no answer. I called and one of the girls told me they were showering, a non verbal action for: 'we do not expect more clients today'. A minute later Rosa opened the door wearing a towel. Rosa is the big tits blonde that appears in the Mundo Anuncio classified ad pictures, the girl I wanted to see. She is a little chubby but has a pretty face, big tits...I asked her about the 1000 pesos special and she replied 'let me ask the manager'. My brain, moistened by some Presidentes reasoned 'it is no good, they are going to try to profit on me'. She told me it is 1500 for two chicas plus 500 for the room... Later on Monday after I was back home I read Playboy Palace Mundo Anuncio ad for the day I visited the place: '1000 pesos one chica. 1500 two chicas, free room with air conditioner plus a welcome drink or beer for free. I paid 500 pesos for the room and I do not know hom much for the beer. At least I got a free shot of breast milk, LOL.From Mundo Anuncio: "if you want pleasure and tenderness just have to visit in payboy palace, with new girls sexy and tender, You going to have a good time, we have a special girl in 1000 why 2 girls by 1500, we also welcome drink and much more, daring and sexy girls 829-691-3831 or 829-721-7444"; http://santodomingo.mundoanuncio.com.do/chicas-atrevidas-y-sexy-829-691-3831-0-829-721-7444-iid-179923798
Photos from Mundo Anuncio advertisement for Playboy Palace, Zona Colonial.
...............Later on Monday after I was back home I read Playboy Palace Mundo Anuncio ad for the day I visited the place: '1000 pesos one chica. 1500 two chicas, free room with air conditioner plus a welcome drink or beer for free. I paid 500 pesos for the room and I do not know hom much for the beer. At least I got a free shot of breast milk, LOL.....................Thanks for the Playboy Palace update. My first visit several months ago PP was really, really bad. Looks like they are starting to improve. The PP has a pretty good location and the prices are very resonable. If they just make a few improvements they will give GBP a run for the money.
So was the breast milk nice and sweet?
.......
Short comments:
I exchanged at 37. 6 at Franks, two days later at 37. 75 in Boca Chica exchange house on Duarte St. I usually stop in Boca Chica upon arrival for a few hours before going to SD. Last few trips I have been exchanging USD on Calle Duarte and surprisingly getting a fairly decent rate. For me it is a little easier than going to Franks once I hit SD.
Thanks for the DR updates.
Flaco Loco
04-07-11, 15:54
I was two blocks away from Playboy Palace so after reading BQ Ribs email with the 'do not forget to visit Playboy Palace note' I decided to visit the place. The street that connects Paseo del Conde to Playboy Palace street is dark, it was 8:00 p. M, I recognized the place because of a picture posted in the forum. I pushed the bell but nobody answered, I tried a couple of times more, no answer. I called and one of the girls told me they were showering, a non verbal action for: 'we do not expect more clients today'. A minute later Rosa opened the door wearing a towel. Rosa is the big tits blonde that appears in the Mundo Anuncio classified ad pictures, the girl I wanted to see. She is a little chubby but has a pretty face, big tits. At that time there were 5 other girls in the place, ranking for the girls were from 'mmmm! ' to 'no, thank you'. Rosa told me that there are 15 girls working there and that they send off a couple of the original girls because of some complaints. I asked her about the 1000 pesos special and she replied 'let me ask the manager'. My brain, moistened by some Presidentes reasoned 'it is no good, they are going to try to profit on me'. She told me it is 1500 for two chicas plus 500 for the room. Then she began to seduce me while I was drinking a beer, another girl grabbed me on some body parts I can't mention here because I went to church once in 1997 and it is a sin to mention words like cock. They convinced me I paid 2000 plus the beer.
We entered a room with an a / see see that was near the ceiling at 300 meters of distance. It was not that high but the ceiling is high. That air conditioner was not enough potent to cool the room but at least it worked a little. I was kissing titty blonde and playing with her tits while the other was giving me a BBBJ. We moved to the bed and continued the foreplay, the brunette chica took a condom and put it on me. Then she was on me and I was in her. I was more interested in busty blonde than in her, I noticed milk on Rosa's breasts. Brunette moved out, another condom and then Rosa was riding over me. Brunette chica left the room while I was with Rosa, I was not interested in her anyway. I cum while Rosa was over me but it was so nice that I left her ride a little more. A little milk from her breasts spurted into one of my eyes while she was riding me. The other girl entered and they were naked beside me. We chatted a little, Rosa told me the place is owned by her best friend and her friend's husband. They opened a few months ago. We dressed and moved to the bar area. Rosa began with the girlfriend game in the bar area, she was with the how cute, nice I was etc. That she felt in love with me, that it is the first time that happened to her and that she was sorry I was leaving in hours back to Puerto Rico. She was deep kissing me as if she was my girlfriend. This part was as nice as sex with her. I detected she was seducing me to began a WU relation but who cares, I was enjoying the moment. I told Rosa I have a friend in Puerto Rico that looks similar to her and asked if she was a twin. The most surprising thing is that they both have the same last names but inverted. I have to investigate that, LOL. She requested my msn, we have had a few msn webcam sessions. Later on Monday after I was back home I read Playboy Palace Mundo Anuncio ad for the day I visited the place: '1000 pesos one chica. 1500 two chicas, free room with air conditioner plus a welcome drink or beer for free. I paid 500 pesos for the room and I do not know hom much for the beer. At least I got a free shot of breast milk, LOL. If you decide to visit the place check if there is a chica you like, at least I can certify that the chicas on classified ads works there, pics are not fake as some people on mundo anuncio stated. Ask for the 1000 pesos special, the 2 chicas for 1500 is not worth it, no real 3some experience. On my way from PP to my hotel I saw street girls back of Parque Independencia near the TV station. Is that a tranvestite area?
I spent my last 3 hours with my sexy driver and my busty amiga, two girls I usually spent time with for non sex company. We had a nice time on Adrian Tropical. The girls took me back to Riazor, I was tempted to go to Coppa but once I touched my bed it was zzzzzzzzzz!
Short comments:
I exchanged at 37. 6 at Franks, two days later at 37. 75 in Boca Chica exchange house on Duarte St.
Viagra works better than la Pela. I have read that 10% of all pills sold in the world are fake and that percentage is higher with erectile dysfunction pills. I felt no side effects while using la Pela, I felt the heat and the other side effects related to Viagra use. I get my Viagra pill for free from a friend that works at Walgreens. I been to church once. Great line!
I would like to thank the entire contributor's on ISG forum that made this trip possible it is much appreciated! The Google Santo Domingo map is a must have and its awesome to get a sense of location, distance, directions, and important notes.
Since this is my First trip to DR and not speaking Spanish, this forum gave me all the insights to have a successful fun trip so far. Still in Santo Domingo and giving a short trip report while everything is still fresh in the mind.
Sunday landing early evening at SDQ, purchased 2 Baileys Irish Cream Coffee (The locals love the re-freshment) 1 liter bottles for 35USD at duty free baggage claim arrival area, there is another duty free shop before the arrival area, don't purchase from that one unless you like higher prices. Upstairs on the 2nd floor is the Pharmacy and also caught a taxi from the departure area for 30USD, the taxi dispatcher wanted 35usd originally until I started walking away. Off to the Hostel Riazor which was around 30 min ride, paid 60USD single with balcony which includes a safe (with a key, bummer) , not a bad lite breakfast which has coffee, juice, and small portion of eggs / meat with outdoor seating to enjoy the ambience. The person's managing the front desk can speak English. Since my room is on the 1st floor (really 2nd floor) can get a weak Wi-Fi internet connection. I would rate this 2. 5 star hotel which is clean, decor is nice and guest friendly. This could be a deal breaker for some people, there is construction noise going on between the hotel and the restaurant which starts after 8am.
305 is pretty accurate on what other's has reviewed, owner and Willie the manager speaks good English. Willie was very helpful and he also got an employee to get me a Claro 500 min pre-paid sim chip for 800RD.
GPB is like other's have talked about this place is pretty awesome if you don't mind the furnishings.
Once outside Hostel Riazor, just make a left and walked down a few blocks Av. Independence has a pharmacy (bank inside & cell phone sim cards) , supermarket, restaurant, small store called Colmado Altagracia on Av. Independencia no. 25 the owner speak a little English to purchase small items like water, soda, snacks and the price is reasonable.
To be continued; Make a left out the Riazor and walk two blocks, turn left on calle cervantes and one block up is la cadena supermarket, which has good prices. I bought a 750ml bottle of Baileys there for 500 pesos ($13US).
Colmados sometimes try to overcharge gringos.
The Baileys at the airport, in the US it is usually two bottles for around $40US, at the SDQ airport around $18 per bottle.
I would like to thank the entire contributor's on ISG forum that made this trip possible it is much appreciated! The Google Santo Domingo map is a must have and its awesome to get a sense of location, distance, directions, and important notes.
Since this is my First trip to DR and not speaking Spanish, this forum gave me all the insights to have a successful fun trip so far. Still in Santo Domingo and giving a short trip report while everything is still fresh in the mind.
Sunday landing early evening at SDQ, purchased 2 Baileys Irish Cream Coffee (The locals love the re-freshment) 1 liter bottles for 35USD at duty free baggage claim arrival area, there is another duty free shop before the arrival area, don't purchase from that one unless you like higher prices. Upstairs on the 2nd floor is the Pharmacy and also caught a taxi from the departure area for 30USD, the taxi dispatcher wanted 35usd originally until I started walking away. Off to the Hostel Riazor which was around 30 min ride, paid 60USD single with balcony which includes a safe (with a key, bummer) , not a bad lite breakfast which has coffee, juice, and small portion of eggs / meat with outdoor seating to enjoy the ambience. The person's managing the front desk can speak English. Since my room is on the 1st floor (really 2nd floor) can get a weak Wi-Fi internet connection. I would rate this 2. 5 star hotel which is clean, decor is nice and guest friendly. This could be a deal breaker for some people, there is construction noise going on between the hotel and the restaurant which starts after 8am.
305 is pretty accurate on what other's has reviewed, owner and Willie the manager speaks good English. Willie was very helpful and he also got an employee to get me a Claro 500 min pre-paid sim chip for 800RD.
GPB is like other's have talked about this place is pretty awesome if you don't mind the furnishings.
Once outside Hostel Riazor, just make a left and walked down a few blocks Av. Independence has a pharmacy (bank inside & cell phone sim cards) , supermarket, restaurant, small store called Colmado Altagracia on Av. Independencia no. 25 the owner speak a little English to purchase small items like water, soda, snacks and the price is reasonable.
To be continued; That is a deal breaker with my crew we are coming back like late April and they feel like any decent hotel should have a good wi fi connection or wired internet connection in the room these days.
Pantherman38
04-08-11, 15:55
I am arriving tonight in Santo Domingo and I need arrival and departure transportation to this hotel. Does any one have any suggestions. I have not made any resorvations for airport pick-up.
I am arriving tonight in Santo Domingo and I need arrival and departure transportation to this hotel. Does any one have any suggestions. I have not made any resorvations for airport pick-up.There are taxis at the airport. Cost to the Jaragua about $40US.
http://www.apolotaxi.com/ApoloTaxi/Bienvenidos.html
Apollo Taxi, Santo Domingo, (809) 537-0000, Office (809) 537-1245.
http://www.a2btransfers.com/
A2B Airport transfers, offers shared transfers, for around $16US each way.
Boricua Online has the phone number of a taxi driver who charges about $28US.
If you take the escalator to the second floor of the airport and go outside, you might be able to get a better deal from a taxi driver who has just dropped off passengers.
When at the Jaragua, there are always taxis around there or you can call Apolo or use A2B or someone else.
GuyLuvsParty
04-08-11, 18:45
That is a deal breaker with my crew we are coming back like late April and they feel like any decent hotel should have a good wi fi connection or wired internet connection in the room these days.Yeah it's a bummer, don't understand what's soo hard about getting wi-fi to all the rooms!
I lucked out with the 1st floor room and right under my floor is the wireless router. It would be a pain in the butt to lug the lappy back and forth to the lobby area. Pros for this hotel is on a busy street, clean, English, close to the action, near by retailers, guest friendly and restaurant next door for eat in or room service. Cons, no freakin internet in all the rooms, key safe, and now construction noise. So far the noise has not been a issue for me, been way too tired to hear it and it's not always constance. Guess out of those cons my only issue is the key for the safe. Bahahaha
GuyLuvsParty
04-08-11, 19:00
Make a left out the Riazor and walk two blocks, turn left on calle cervantes and one block up is la cadena supermarket, which has good prices. I bought a 750ml bottle of Baileys there for 500 pesos ($13US).
Colmados sometimes try to overcharge gringos.
The Baileys at the airport, in the US it is usually two bottles for around $40US, at the SDQ airport around $18 per bottle.I visted the la cadena supermarket, great selections and prices compared to stores around the area.
Inside looks like a regular supermarket instead of all those mom & pop stores.
Jaosousa. LOL, I'm sure he does (at least when he asks for my peso's had not gone OMG yet. LOL) , he at least understands what I want and maybe charges me a little added translation fee.
BlkPanther
04-08-11, 22:24
I'm staying at the Jaguar. Just checked in. About to head out and find that local pharmacy and get a SIM card, and get a few snacks. Looks like I'll be checking the Jaragua Casino later. Is there a dress code?
Back in November / December of last year the Policia Nacional came down hard and heavy on the SW. One gigantic broom and they swept the SW off the streets in Gazcue. There are reports of SW in different areas but that means driving around town to find these locations. The Gazcue SW were ideal because a monger could walk out of his hotel and in the past would find 50 or so SW within a five minute walk. BlkPanter sorry to report and confirm those days are over with.
You will read a few reports of SW being available but the truth is there are few and far between. You might find a few independents in Jaragua Casino, maybe? One of the larger hangout corners for the SW now sells paintings. The SW used to be on the Malecon but now the only thing you will find on the Malecon are taxi drivers. The late night candy vendor no more has the SW buying candy and gum. He sits alone without a SW in sight.
Knowledge posted a report on the locations where SW are now available, but you will need a car. My thought on picking up a SW is to do it on foot. I used to like walking the streets and check the chica out before closing the deal. Trying to pick up a SW in a car is not the way to do it, at least for me.
The most recent report there are a few, very few SW out but you need to keep a constant look out for them.
BTW, where are you staying? Jaragua Hotel / Casino or Jaguar Apart / Hotel
I'm staying at the Jaguar. Just checked in. About to head out and find that local pharmacy and get a SIM card, and get a few snacks. Looks like I'll be checking the Jaragua Casino later.
Is there a dress code? Yes, no short pants, Hawaiian shirt, sandals and socks. Fot the casino or for SD itself slacks or long jeans and a nice shirt and you will be fine,
Good luck on your hunt and let us know how things go.
BlkPanther
04-09-11, 14:21
Well this is not my 1st time in D. R. But this is my first time in S. D. And so far it's a bust. (and not the kind that I like). The local rep for 'A2B Transfers' showed up at the airport as expected even though the driver had to get directions twice to the Jaguar. On my AT&T phone! I'll pay for that! Everything is in walking distance, (except some chicas!) , Manolos; the pharmacy to get a SIM card. Requiring your passport! (what's that about?). Luckily I was carrying it with me. The manager does speak English and was very helpful. (and has a nice rack). On the way back to the hotel I spy a local chica built the way I like 'them (magnum sized ass / flat stomach) that made Mr. Happy wake up. She was walking in the other direction across the street with a girlfriend and I wanted to see if I could introduce myself at least, but the traffic was so busy I couldn't cross without getting hit and didn't want to chase after them and look like a weirdo so I had to let it go. Damn! The Jaragua Casino is in the same area so after a quick rest and shower I walk down with anticipation, and after finally finding the right entrance, located the casino. (They don't believe in a lot of signage here do they?)
If there were any WG's inside it was hard to tell. I moved around, letting myself be seen, and at 6'3", that's not hard to do. It seemed the ladies were more intent on winning a few pesos than earning some. After about 60 min and the thought of giving up I start a Spanglish conversation with a local, way past her prime, just to pass the time, when a '10' comes walking out one of the hotel's restaurants. She looks obviously expensive (take my word for it, she looks like she works the well-heeled vacationers in the hotel) and I don't like to do desperation bargaining, so I decided to call it a night and try one of the casas on Saturday. Maybe I can salvage this trip.
Sorry for your bad introduction to SD. I remember you posted you like the SW and I did warn you that for the most part they are no longer easily available in Gascue. Take a cab and go to GBP this afternoon. If you find a pleasant chica you can always get her phone number to hook up again. Jaguar Casino as you found out is no hot spot for chicas. Also you can take a walk over to Playboy Palace just off of El Conde and she what is available. Both GBP and PP are bargain basement casas.
Another option would be go to Pacos Restaurant. Grab a seat outside to enjoy a beer and keep your eye out for a chica or two passing by who just may give you a pleasant smile.
BTW needing your passport for a SIM card is standard procedure.
Well this is not my 1st time in D. R. But this is my first time in S. D. And so far it's a bust. (and not the kind that I like). The local rep for 'A2B Transfers' showed up at the airport as expected even though the driver had to get directions twice to the Jaguar. On my AT&T phone! I'll pay for that! Everything is in walking distance, (except some chicas!) , Manolos; the pharmacy to get a SIM card. Requiring your passport! (what's that about?). Luckily I was carrying it with me. The manager does speak English and was very helpful. (and has a nice rack). On the way back to the hotel I spy a local chica built the way I like 'them (magnum sized ass / flat stomach) that made Mr. Happy wake up. She was walking in the other direction across the street with a girlfriend and I wanted to see if I could introduce myself at least, but the traffic was so busy I couldn't cross without getting hit and didn't want to chase after them and look like a weirdo so I had to let it go. Damn! The Jaragua Casino is in the same area so after a quick rest and shower I walk down with anticipation, and after finally finding the right entrance, located the casino. (They don't believe in a lot of signage here do they?)
If there were any WG's inside it was hard to tell. I moved around, letting myself be seen, and at 6'3", that's not hard to do. It seemed the ladies were more intent on winning a few pesos than earning some. After about 60 min and the thought of giving up I start a Spanglish conversation with a local, way past her prime, just to pass the time, when a '10' comes walking out one of the hotel's restaurants. She looks obviously expensive (take my word for it, she looks like she works the well-heeled vacationers in the hotel) and I don't like to do desperation bargaining, so I decided to call it a night and try one of the casas on Saturday. Maybe I can salvage this trip.
Well this is not my 1st time in D. R. But this is my first time in S. D. And so far it's a bust. (and not the kind that I like). The local rep for 'A2B Transfers' showed up at the airport as expected even though the driver had to get directions twice to the Jaguar. On my AT&T phone! I'll pay for that! Everything is in walking distance, (except some chicas!) , Manolos; the pharmacy to get a SIM card. Requiring your passport! (what's that about?). Luckily I was carrying it with me. The manager does speak English and was very helpful. (and has a nice rack). On the way back to the hotel I spy a local chica built the way I like 'them (magnum sized ass / flat stomach) that made Mr. Happy wake up. She was walking in the other direction across the street with a girlfriend and I wanted to see if I could introduce myself at least, but the traffic was so busy I couldn't cross without getting hit and didn't want to chase after them and look like a weirdo so I had to let it go. Damn! The Jaragua Casino is in the same area so after a quick rest and shower I walk down with anticipation, and after finally finding the right entrance, located the casino. (They don't believe in a lot of signage here do they?)
If there were any WG's inside it was hard to tell. I moved around, letting myself be seen, and at 6'3", that's not hard to do. It seemed the ladies were more intent on winning a few pesos than earning some. After about 60 min and the thought of giving up I start a Spanglish conversation with a local, way past her prime, just to pass the time, when a '10' comes walking out one of the hotel's restaurants. She looks obviously expensive (take my word for it, she looks like she works the well-heeled vacationers in the hotel) and I don't like to do desperation bargaining, so I decided to call it a night and try one of the casas on Saturday. Maybe I can salvage this trip. Last time I was near the Jaragua casino at night, there were a few pros standing outside the entrance that faces the Malecon. Boricua Online met his 500 peso oral sex pro near there. You could have walked in front of the Melia Hotel (next door to the Jaragua) , there are usually pros inside the Melia casino and inside Coppa Bar (inside the Melia adjacent to the casino).
From the Jaguar Hotel make a left outside and walk straight, after two blocks you will be at Avenida Independencia, Manolos restaurant to your left, Jaragua rear entrance across the street. If you make a right on Independencia within the next block you will see on the right, Lapsus, strip club / brothel.
If you make a left at Independencia, after two blocks you will see calle cervantes, make a left, go up about one block and the building on the left before the supermarket is a happy ending massage place open in the daytime.
After you make the left at Manolos, when coming from Jaguar Hotel and walk straight on Independencia, after three blocks you will come to avenida pasteur. On the left hand (northwest corner) is a Pharmacy where I sometimes buy Cialis for around 340 pesos. Usually the counter there is not crowded with people. If you make a right on Pasteur on the left hand side of the street after 1/2 block you will see Girls House (not recommended) , there are usually chicas lounging around there in the daytime. Next door to Girls House is Satin Dolls and then Sky High. You can walk back to Independencia and cross over to the other side and make a right, and 1/4 block from the corner will be Club 305, early in the daytime, the inside bar may be closed, you can walk to the backyard and see if any chicas are around, there is a bar in the backyard. After 305, go left on Independencia, same direction as the vehicles on Independencia and after about 7 blocks you will come to a park, walk along the outside of the park, still going east, same direction as cars and make a left at the edge of the park and you will see taxis and minivans picking up and dropping off people, that is the beginning of El Conde, pedestrian only street. There is a white cafe on the corner there, Grands (formerly Pacos). Last time I was inside that cafe at around 5pm, I saw 10 pros sitting inside.
On Independencia after Pasteur going east, there are usually SWs at night, also I was told around the park and near the cemetery. In the early evening pros walk and up down El Conde.
You could have a bought a sim card at the airport, depending what time your flight got in.
Well this is not my 1st time in D. R. But this is my first time in S. D. And so far it's a bust. (and not the kind that I like).................If you thought your Friday night was slow just wait until you see how slow Santo Domingo is on a Sunday. If you find the action really, really slow on Sunday and you are feeling adventurous hop on a Boca Chica Expresso and spend the afternoon sipping Presidentes on Playa Sosua.
BlkPanther
04-09-11, 23:34
Actually this is just a short get acquainted with S. D. Scene trip. I live in Fla and I'm leaving Sunday afternoon. But GBP made it worth the trip. Much more positives than negatives to report. Luckily I thought ahead and wrote down the directions in Spanish provided by 'Renegade' (thanks dude) and took them with me. Caught an unlicensed taxi parked next to Manolo's and asked him if he knew where it was (with the directions in my hand). He pretended to know ("I know the area") , but after a few blocks asked for my directions. Poser! LOL
But we got there and it's a tiny place. But they had about six or seven nice looking chicas and two of them immediately started feeling me up trying to get my business, but my eye fell on this nice looking twenty something with light skin and a nice hips & ass ratio compared to the rest of her body. (gets me every time). Add to that a nice smie and I was sold. I was still taking my time until several guys started coming in and that tiny lounge area was filling past capacity so I decided I'd better make my move before someone else got her. I called her over and indicated that I wanted her and off we went. We went into this back room with a couple of couches and gym equipment. She immediately tries to talk me into going to my hotel for 3000 pesos which caught me unawares but not being a newbie to the game I recovered quickly and told her that was too much and I'd rather 'do the deed' right there. She asked for 1500 and I talked her down to 1200 and hoped I got my money's worth. Surprisingly I did. She started off with a BBBJ which was nice then asked me how I wanted it without complaining about how Mr. Happy was too big (Hey, it's not bragging if it's true) , which was nice again! I didn't like the small couch instead of a bed or large couch (I'm 6'3") but she made up for it in enthusiasm and 'working' a couple of positions. In my opinion personality counts for a lot. In all a good experience. I gave her my cell number to give to another chica to call me later and come to my hotel. I couldn't tell if she was a WG because she wasn't dressed like the others, wearing jeans and a regular top. My girl said she was one of the crew, so if she calls it's icing on the cake.
Then I stood outside in the 90 degree heat trying to get a taxi but everyone that went by was full. After I got in another 'unlicensed' taxi with these other guys that were leaving GBP I see a block away, three empty taxis parked and looking for work. Doh! But it was just another $5 US for the trip back so no problems there.
If I get another 'date' I'll post the results.
If you thought your Friday night was slow just wait until you see how slow Santo Domingo is on a Sunday. If you find the action really, really slow on Sunday and you are feeling adventurous hop on a Boca Chica Expresso and spend the afternoon sipping Presidentes on Playa Sosua.
actually this is just a short get acquainted with s. d. scene trip. i live in fla and i'm leaving sunday afternoon. but gbp made it worth the trip. much more positives than negatives to report.........
it always amuses me how this thread has so much talk about all the casas rep001tered about but seems as if 9 out of 10 guys end up at gbp. take a look at the boricuaonline map. he has the location of playboy palace pinned on his map. you can take a nice long walk from jaguar to playboy palace. just walk out of jaguar and go left to avenida independencia and make a left. walk all the way to the end staying on the main street, independencia. once you get to parque independencia you will see el conde, the pedestrian walkway. playboy palace is only two blocks from there. check the map.
as i mentioned in my other post you can also grab a cold beer at pacos and people watch. pacos gets a diversified crowd at night, so watch it. lol
another quickie would be to take a cab to casa australia, again check the map.
btw pacos changed it's name to grands about two years ago but most still call it pacos restaurante. so if you see grands you are in reality in pacos.
another cool spot to hang out at night and grab a bite to eat is plaza juan baron on the malecon.
BlkPanther
04-10-11, 01:22
hey, i just chose the casa i see mentioned most and that looked like gbp.
i'm not much for walking in the heat. three to four blocks max in this 90 degree heat and i'm dripping sweat.
i'm not a beer drinker and any alcohol counteracts my friend vitamin 'v' so i have a lot of reason not to drink when i'm mongering. .
i'm headed out with my bud and his girl to try to find some seafood and hopefully pull someone for tomorrow before i leave. if i can't, what time do the casas open on sun morn? my ride comes at 1:00pm.
it always amuses me how this thread has so much talk about all the casas rep001tered about but seems as if 9 out of 10 guys end up at gbp. take a look at the boricuaonline map. he has the location of playboy palace pinned on his map. you can take a nice long walk from jaguar to playboy palace. just walk out of jaguar and go left to avenida independencia and make a left. walk all the way to the end staying on the main street, independencia. once you get to parque independencia you will see el conde, the pedestrian walkway. playboy palace is only two blocks from there. check the map.
as i mentioned in my other post you can also grab a cold beer at pacos and people watch. pacos gets a diversified crowd at night, so watch it. lol.
another quickie would be to take a cab to casa australia, again check the map.
btw pacos changed it's name to grands about two years ago but most still call it pacos restaurante. so if you see grands you are in reality in pacos.
another cool spot to hang out at night and grab a bite to eat is plaza juan baron on the malecon.
Hey, I just chose the casa I see mentioned most and that looked like GBP.
I'm not much for walking in the heat. Three to four blocks max in this 90 degree heat and I'm dripping sweat.
I'm not a beer drinker and any alcohol counteracts my friend vitamin 'V' so I have a lot of reason not to drink when I'm mongering. .
I'm headed out with my bud and his girl to try to find some seafood and hopefully pull someone for tomorrow before I leave. If I can't, what time do the casas open on Sun morn? My ride comes at 1:00pm. You made the right choice. Just joking with you. Most of the other casas are much harder to get to and to be honest I haven't been to 99% of them myself.
If you speak Spanish or your buddy does give Playboy Palace a call. I don't think you will have much luck finding something open before noon on a Sunday.
Here is a restaurant link.
http://menu.com.do/splash.php
BlkPanther
04-10-11, 08:44
["I don't think you will have much luck finding something open before noon on a Sunday."]
No worries. I got lucky at the Jaragua casino. Finally. We went to 'Vesuvius' (sp?) restaurant and had a nice meal. I felt kinda under-dressed. It's a very nice restaurant. The other patrons were dressed for the venue and we were casual. Oh well, it looked like they needed the business actually.
When we got back, my bud and his lady went to their room and I decided to try the casino one more time. I did my usual moving about the room, scoping out the ladies and when I decided to give it a rest and head for the door, this medium thick nice looking local with a large round ass and great smile catches my eye as I'm walking past and decides to approach me before I make it too far toward the door. We do our little Spanglish 'greeting / get to know you thing' and I'm thinking I'm going to hit that big butt. I get the big idea to cash in some dollars and make an investment in this booty to help clinch the deal. I give her 200 pesos to play with and she eventually decides to play blackjack. I can see she's not a beginner and soon she has more than doubled the money. Unfortunately she's drinking that free booze and won't take my advice to pocket her profits, so she eventually gives it all to the casino. Typical gambler. I know. I'm one myself. But during this time I'm suggesting we go to my place but all she wants to do is play more cards. In the meantime I spot this tall, slim light skinned chica with braces, a silver lame dress and a really nice ass for her body shape and she's trying to catch my eye. I don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off big butt so I restrain myself until I know for sure that she's not coming. I ask one more time about going to my room and when she says she wants to play more cards I give her the kiss off and go looking for slim who has now disappeared. I'm kicking myself for about fifteen minutes until she shows up again. We make eye contact and she calls me over. We do the Spanglish thing and she wants to know if I want to go dancing somewhere. I let her know that I'm leaving manana and I'm heading to my hotel. She asks if I want company and you can guess where that led. She said make an offer and I said 2k pesos and it was off to the races.
We walked the two blocks to Jaguar and her ass looked even better with her dress off in my room. Pretty nice rack, a BBBJ to start with and we were 'doing the do'! Enthusiasm was good. Changed positions. Acted as though she was having a good time with the right noises!
The only turn-off was the nickle & dime-ing you that most of them do to get every peso they can get right then. The smart ones know to play it cool, get you to come back and get paid long term. Not that,"I live so far away. Can you give me another 100 pesos for the taxi? Or Can I have your cookies for my baby?"
Anyway the trip was a success finally. It appears that the WG's start coming into the casino late at night, like around midnight. (for any mongers coming this way in the future). We hooked up around 1:30 am.
Suffice it to say, I'll probably make another trip here for the right fare. Now I have to get some sleep. Tomorrow afternoon will get here fast.
Ciao!
...................The only turn-off was the nickle & dime-ing you that most of them do to get every peso they can get right then. The smart ones know to play it cool, get you to come back and get paid long term. Not that,"I live so far away. Can you give me another 100 pesos for the taxi? Or Can I have your cookies for my baby?".............Funny man, funny. I guess we forgot to warn you that not only do you need to lock up your laptop and passport but put your chocolate chip cookies in the safe also.
Sounds like your trip turned out OK, good to read.
I try to bring some inexpensive trinkets that the girls seem to like. The little give aways seem to improve the activity. Plus if you can get some gf action it is always better then the slam bam (personal preference). I will be staying at the Jaraqua with my chica. I thinking of a threesome. I will have to figure a way work security. I am a saleman and believe I can talk my way into anything. You think a salida can get security to let a second chica go up to my room. My chica is checking in with me. How does security know what or if you checked in with a chica.
Funny man, funny. I guess we forgot to warn you that not only do you need to lock up your laptop and passport but put your chocolate chip cookies in the safe also.
Sounds like your trip turned out OK, good to read.
BlkPanther
04-10-11, 16:29
I'll keep the cheap trinkets idea in mind.
My bud stayed at the Jaragua with his gf. I'll check with him and see if he has any info.
Also to those using A2B transfers, be sure that you check your pick-up times. They may have nothing to do with your flight times. I was checking my return info and noticed that I was scheduled for a 10:00am pick-up, for a flight leaving at 4:15 pm. (Maybe they were thinking of general check-out times) I was finally able to contact the local contractor after e-mailing the main company and getting the local phone number. (The rep at the airport took my voucher with him that had the contact info.) I eventually got a 1:00 pm pick-up to the airport. Having all your contact info in more than one place helps.
Ciao baby!
I try to bring some inexpensive trinkets that the girls seem to like. The little give aways seem to improve the activity. Plus if you can get some gf action it is always better then the slam bam (personal preference). I will be staying at the Jaraqua with my chica. I thinking of a threesome. I will have to figure a way work security. I am a saleman and believe I can talk my way into anything. You think a salida can get security to let a second chica go up to my room. My chica is checking in with me. How does security know what or if you checked in with a chica.
. Also to those using A2B transfers, be sure that you check your pick-up times. They may have nothing to do with your flight times. I was checking my return info and noticed that I was scheduled for a 10:00am pick-up, for a flight leaving at 4:15 pm. (Maybe they were thinking of general check-out times) I was finally able to contact the local contractor after e-mailing the main company and getting the local phone number. (The rep at the airport took my voucher with him that had the contact info.) I eventually got a 1:00 pm pick-up to the airport. Having all your contact info in more than one place helps.
Ciao baby! So what was the actual cost of A2B transfers and is it worth the savings?
BlkPanther
04-10-11, 17:19
Rafael was going to send a cab for me to the airport for about $30 one way. A2B charged me $39 round trip.
So what was the actual cost of A2B transfers and is it worth the savings?
Rafael was going to send a cab for me to the airport for about $30 one way. A2B charged me $39 round trip.Thanks for the feedback. I don't remember who was the first to post about A2B but it was a very recent post. If someone remembers the first poster I guess he deserves a big "thanks".
What room did you have at Jaguar Apart/Hotel?
BlkPanther
04-10-11, 17:32
If you're going to use them, book at least two days ahead of your flight.
Thanks for the feedback. I don't remember who was the first to post about A2B but it was a very recent post. If someone remembers the first poster I guess he deserves a big "thanks".
ItalianStallion1
04-11-11, 01:02
My first trip to the DR with last minute plans.
The wedding is being held at Occidental El Embajador on Saturday and I will arrive on Wednesday morning. I have yet to book a hotel room since I am highly confused with all of the choices. I do not want to stay with the wedding party since I do not need them to see me with multiple chicas per day.
I am looking for a hotel that is chica friendly, chicas hanging out in hotel bar / restaurant area, maybe SW close by, close to case de chicas, playboy palace, etc. Any last minute recommendations to help me out?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Ps: where do I find the google map that everyone is talking about?
...........Ps: where do I find the google map that everyone is talking about?Here is the link for the map. Compliments of ISG member BoricuaOnline.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&ll=18.467703-69. 898582&spn=0. 009891, 0.019248&z=16&mid=1246396605
My first trip to the DR with last minute plans.
The wedding is being held at Occidental El Embajador on Saturday and I will arrive on Wednesday morning. I have yet to book a hotel room since I am highly confused with all of the choices. I do not want to stay with the wedding party since I do not need them to see me with multiple chicas per day.
I am looking for a hotel that is chica friendly, chicas hanging out in hotel bar / restaurant area, maybe SW close by, close to case de chicas, playboy palace, etc. Any last minute recommendations to help me out?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Ps: where do I find the google map that everyone is talking about?The pool at the El Embajador is one of the best in Santo Domingo. The El Embajador is chica friendly. When I last stayed there, a few years ago there were pros on the small side street in front of the hotel and there were pros on avenida sarasota, a few blocks from the el embajador. I haven't been on Ave. Sarasota at night in a while, so I don't know if the SWs are still there.
About three blocks from the El Embajador and Avenida Sarasota is Hotel BQ, a chica friendly hotel with a rooftop pool.
El Embajador is about three blocks from a major north-south street called Ave Jimenez Moya (most people call the avenue Avenida Churchill, which is its name north of Ave. 27 de Febrero). On Avenida Jimenez Moya near the Malecon SWs can be found, at night it would a 5 minute drive from the El Embajador.
If you don't mind being about a 15 minute drive (depending on traffic) from where the wedding party is staying, then the neighborhood called Gazcue has the most pay for play venues. Hotels in Gazcue start at around $40 per night, Hotel Jaguar, Hostal Riazor, Hotel Duque de Wellington, Hotel Mystik, Hotel Maison Gatreux, Hotel Venezia and others.
Hostal Riazor (it is a normal hotel) is a good spot for newbies, cost is about $58 per night, it has a 24 hour restaurant next door, it is located directly behind a large hotel and casino, Jaragua. From Riazor you can walk to various venues, Lapsus. 305, Satin Dolls, Sky High, Jaragua Casino, Melia Casino and Coppa Bar. Playboy Palace in zona colonial would be about a 15 block walk from the hotel riazor. On the malecon before zona colonial are the Baby Dolls and Foxys. Very late at night, pay for play action can be found at coppa and club 305 stays open late. I was told when I was at casa de modelos and the baby dolls that they are open 24/7.
Any questions ask away.
ItalianStallion1
04-11-11, 04:54
Here is the link for the map. Compliments of ISG member BoricuaOnline.Thank you very much. I could not find it after searching through 30+ random pages.
Any information on Hotels that have good chica activity inside and in the surronding area? Local friends from the wedding party recommend Jaguar. Any better?
Thanks again!
ItalianStallion1
04-11-11, 05:04
[QUOTE=ItalianStallion1; 1143779]. Local friends from the wedding party recommend Jaguar. Any better? QUOTE]
Ooops! I meant the referred me to Renaissance Santo Domingo Jaragua Hotel and Casino. The price is quite different between the two.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=ItalianStallion1; 1143779]. Local friends from the wedding party recommend Jaguar. Any better? QUOTE]
Ooops! I meant the referred me to Renaissance Santo Domingo Jaragua Hotel and Casino. The price is quite different between the two.
Thanks! Stay away from the Jaragua. Not chica friendly. Try the Jaguar.
Flaco Loco
04-12-11, 19:22
Gazcue demonstrates against prostitution.
The District Attorney for the National District said yesterday that the office would be taking action against prostitution in the Gazcue sector of the city where residents have been complaining of immoral activities.
Alejandro Moscoso Segarra told Diario Libre that although it was not possible to eliminate prostitution altogether, they would take action to reduce it, especially in response to complaints involving 20 hotels that are in fact brothels.
The Santo Domingo Hotel Association has also complained about this issue. Association president Roberto Henriquez said that they are being besieged by prostitution and that each night they have to turn away between five and eight clients in order to prevent this practice in their properties.
Gazcue residents protested at the District Attorney's office, after a similar event held outside the National District City Hall, where they presented another series of problems that affect the community. Their concerns included dark streets, sidewalks full of garbage, the presence of brothels, public offices and rowdy corner markets that degrade the neighborhood.
The protest was led by Huberto Henriquez and supported by city council members from the PRD, represented by Cesar Cabrera, Waldy Taveras and Consuelo Despradel. The residents of Gazcue accused the city government of not complying with the laws. The group traveled in a bus called "Tours de Protesta de la Comunidad de Gazcue".
Thanks for the information Flaco Loco.
Anyone have a clue what this portion of the news release means?
Gazcue demonstrates against prostitution..............they would take action to reduce it, especially in response to complaints involving 20 hotels that are in fact brothels......................I am at a complete loss. I can't even begin to think of 20 casas in Gazcue or even think of 20 guest friendly hotels so what are they talking about. Does this really just mean they want to pad lock the Pasteur casas, etc?
Gazcue demonstrates against prostitution.
The District Attorney for the National District said yesterday that the office would be taking action against prostitution in the Gazcue sector of the city where residents have been complaining of immoral activities.
Alejandro Moscoso Segarra told Diario Libre that although it was not possible to eliminate prostitution altogether, they would take action to reduce it, especially in response to complaints involving 20 hotels that are in fact brothels.
The Santo Domingo Hotel Association has also complained about this issue. Association president Roberto Henriquez said that they are being besieged by prostitution and that each night they have to turn away between five and eight clients in order to prevent this practice in their properties.
Gazcue residents protested at the District Attorney's office, after a similar event held outside the National District City Hall, where they presented another series of problems that affect the community. Their concerns included dark streets, sidewalks full of garbage, the presence of brothels, public offices and rowdy corner markets that degrade the neighborhood.
The protest was led by Huberto Henriquez and supported by city council members from the PRD, represented by Cesar Cabrera, Waldy Taveras and Consuelo Despradel. The residents of Gazcue accused the city government of not complying with the laws. The group traveled in a bus called "Tours de Protesta de la Comunidad de Gazcue".
The current president of the Dom Rep is Leonel Fernandez and he is a member of the PLD political party.
Seems the Gazcue "protests" are being organized by members of the opposing political party the PRD. Hipolito Mejia is a member of the PRD. Hipolito Mejia is an ex-president of the DR. Hipolito Mejia is a light skin Dominican, who wants to be president again. Hipolito Mejia is known to be vulgar, sexist and released, pardoned criminals from Dominican jails, probably in exchange for cash payments.
I would not put much significance into the article you quoted.
I really doubt any small hotels in Gazcue want to loose the Monger business. If Gazcue chases away mongers, the people in Gazcue will suffer. Less jobs for hotel workers, less people walking around the streets at night (which will make the neighborhood less safe) , less tax revenues to pay for infrastructure repairs (roads, sidewalks, street lighting).
From what I understand there are no social service programs in DR, like welfare or food stamps. If a chica can't get a normal low paying job to help support her family and if she can't earn some money as a pro, then money to buy food will have to come from somewhere, possibly their Dominican chulo boyfriends will begin to rob and steal more.
Santo Domingo can be a fun place, but it is not the top tourist destination in the world. Some people in Gazcue may be believe they are living on 5th Avenue and believe they are entitled to every modern luxury. Some people in Gazcue may be greedy and want higher prices for their homes, when they go to sell and believe getting rid of certain elements will increase their home's value.
There are many monger destinations in the world. If some people in the DR want to make it ever more uncomfortable for mongers, then mongers will take their money to other countries.
Why stop at closing at the casas, close the cabanas, stop selling alcohol, shut down the Brugal and Presidente Cerveza factories, make the DR like a Taliban country, make adultery a capital crime, make divorce illegal, cover the women in burkas or have them completely covered like in Saudi Arabia.
Gazcue demonstrates against prostitution.
The District Attorney for the National District said yesterday that the office would be taking action against prostitution in the Gazcue sector of the city where residents have been complaining of immoral activities.
Alejandro Moscoso Segarra told Diario Libre that although it was not possible to eliminate prostitution altogether, they would take action to reduce it, especially in response to complaints involving 20 hotels that are in fact brothels.
The Santo Domingo Hotel Association has also complained about this issue. Association president Roberto Henriquez said that they are being besieged by prostitution and that each night they have to turn away between five and eight clients in order to prevent this practice in their properties.
Gazcue residents protested at the District Attorney's office, after a similar event held outside the National District City Hall, where they presented another series of problems that affect the community. Their concerns included dark streets, sidewalks full of garbage, the presence of brothels, public offices and rowdy corner markets that degrade the neighborhood.
The protest was led by Huberto Henriquez and supported by city council members from the PRD, represented by Cesar Cabrera, Waldy Taveras and Consuelo Despradel. The residents of Gazcue accused the city government of not complying with the laws. The group traveled in a bus called "Tours de Protesta de la Comunidad de Gazcue".
BoricuaOnline
04-13-11, 04:41
Thanks for the information Flaco Loco.
Anyone have a clue what this portion of the news release means?
I am at a complete loss. I can't even begin to think of 20 casas in Gazcue or even think of 20 guest friendly hotels so what are they talking about. Does this really just mean they want to pad lock the Pasteur casas, etc? I infer they are talking about the small hotels like Mystik, Jaguar, Venezia, Carey etc. Where neighbors often hear girls screaming and fighting for the last ham and cheese sandwich inside these hotel rooms.
Sousa shut down SD being quelched why? 3 weeks I will be in SD. Meeting my PC chica there. Bought a couple of toys for the trip. Who says you can teach an old kool a new trick. Mongering is not easy.
I infer they are talking about the small hotels like Mystik, Jaguar, Venezia, Carey etc. Where neighbors often hear girls screaming and fighting for the last ham and cheese sandwich inside these hotel rooms.
Sousa shut down SD being quelched why? 3 weeks I will be in SD. Meeting my PC chica there. Bought a couple of toys for the trip. Who says you can teach an old kool a new trick. Mongering is not easy.One thing you may want to try at the Jaragua Hotel and Casino, when you check in, give the name of your Punta Cana chica and give the names of two other chicas, choose any female Spanish sounding names (if during your stay, you find another chica for a trio, tell her to say her name is one of the names you gave at check in, if they ask for her cedula, it got stolen). When I stayed at the Jaragua years ago, I gave the names of three chicas, who I knew would be visiting me. One chica visited me in the afternoon with her sister and we went directly to the pool. After the pool, the chica and her sister took the elevator in the tower section, to the floor where my room was located, security never stopped them.
On a different night at the Jaragua, I entered with a chica and I had to stop at the front desk and she had to show her cedula (identification) and the worker checked her name with the names I had given at check in and she was allowed to enter.
When I stayed in the garden section, I tried to enter with three different chicas on different days and the security guy stationed at the entrance to the garden section had a printout with the names of the guests staying there, I had not given any chicas names at check in for that trip and none of the chicas were able to enter.
Some hotels have cameras and some security guys are afraid that they are being watched and sometimes reluctant to break the rules for fear of losing their jobs.
There will always be pros in Santo Domingo. The casas and the chica friendly hotels in gazcue are not a nuisance, some people complaining in Gazcue are just trying to score political points, nothing more. Some Dominicans prefer Hipolito Mejia solely based on the color of his skin, he is light skin, whereas Leonel is moreno. Mejia was probably one of the most corrupt and incompetent presidents of the DR. In Gazcue, being an old neighborhood, probably has some old timers who probably long for the days of the dictator Trujillo and probably can't accept having a president who is moreno and will ***** and moan, just to make Leonel look bad (very similar to the US, where some white folks can't accept having a 1/2 African American as president)
If you can't get into the Jaragua with the second chica, you can walk 4 blocks to the hotel navarro and rent a room there for a few hours for around 800 pesos. Cabanas are not really close to the Jaragua, you would have to pay for a taxi round-trip and lose time getting there. If your punta cana chica has an open mind, visit some casas with her. I have seen women visiting club 305. If your chica wants to do a trio with another chica, you can suggest that she pick out the other chica. Girls House on Ave. Pasteur is not recommended. I know the owner of Club 305 and Satin Dolls, both of whom are nice people, who speak English. Lapsus would be the closest place to the Jaragua, make a left after exiting the rear gate of the Jaragua and Lapsus will be on your right within a block or two on Avenue Independencia. I have not been in Lapsus in over 7 years. Foxys on the Malecon may have some fine chicas and some of the chicas do a strip show there. I have been told Foxys' prices are 6 to 8 thousand pesos.
i agree the vice in gazcue is not probably a nuisance to you. but that is because you don't live there. you don't have to deal with finding used condoms in your building parking areas, explaining to your children what the pot bellied gringo with his pants around his ankles was doing with the overdressed woman in the bushes below their window, replacing the fog lights a panhandler stole off your car, or cleaning the smell of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and beer off your sidewalks. it gets old really quickly when it's not a once in a while vacation blowout.
by the way, one of the hotels described as a brothel in the diario libre piece is the jaguar, the mystik is another.
the hipolito vs. leonel situation is really not as complicated as it may seem. influence peddling and payoffs rule dominican politics. the military controls organized sex work. as in the past, the legitimate complaints of community activists will result in a compromise. you will see limited operating hours, noise restrictions, and the elimination of neon and arm waving touts. at least for a while. the pasteur strip is not likely to go away because there are no more than two or three residential properties left on it and very few are left near it.
one thing you may want to try at the jaragua hotel and casino, when you check in, give the name of your punta cana chica and give the names of two other chicas, choose any female spanish sounding names (if during your stay, you find another chica for a trio, tell her to say her name is one of the names you gave at check in, if they ask for her cedula, it got stolen). when i stayed at the jaragua years ago, i gave the names of three chicas, who i knew would be visiting me. one chica visited me in the afternoon with her sister and we went directly to the pool. after the pool, the chica and her sister took the elevator in the tower section, to the floor where my room was located, security never stopped them.
on a different night at the jaragua, i entered with a chica and i had to stop at the front desk and she had to show her cedula (identification) and the worker checked her name with the names i had given at check in and she was allowed to enter.
when i stayed in the garden section, i tried to enter with three different chicas on different days and the security guy stationed at the entrance to the garden section had a printout with the names of the guests staying there, i had not given any chicas names at check in for that trip and none of the chicas were able to enter.
some hotels have cameras and some security guys are afraid that they are being watched and sometimes reluctant to break the rules for fear of losing their jobs.
there will always be pros in santo domingo. the casas and the chica friendly hotels in gazcue are not a nuisance, some people complaining in gazcue are just trying to score political points, nothing more. some dominicans prefer hipolito mejia solely based on the color of his skin, he is light skin, whereas leonel is moreno. mejia was probably one of the most corrupt and incompetent presidents of the dr. in gazcue, being an old neighborhood, probably has some old timers who probably long for the days of the dictator trujillo and probably can't accept having a president who is moreno and will * and moan, just to make leonel look bad (very similar to the us, where some white folks can't accept having a 1/2 african american as president)
if you can't get into the jaragua with the second chica, you can walk 4 blocks to the hotel navarro and rent a room there for a few hours for around 800 pesos. cabanas are not really close to the jaragua, you would have to pay for a taxi round-trip and lose time getting there. if your punta cana chica has an open mind, visit some casas with her. i have seen women visiting club 305. if your chica wants to do a trio with another chica, you can suggest that she pick out the other chica. girls house on ave. pasteur is not recommended. i know the owner of club 305 and satin dolls, both of whom are nice people, who speak english. lapsus would be the closest place to the jaragua, make a left after exiting the rear gate of the jaragua and lapsus will be on your right within a block or two on avenue independencia. i have not been in lapsus in over 7 years. foxys on the malecon may have some fine chicas and some of the chicas do a strip show there. i have been told foxys' prices are 6 to 8 thousand pesos.
Sousa shut down SD being quelched why? 3 weeks I will be in SD. Meeting my PC chica there. Bought a couple of toys for the trip. Who says you can teach an old kool a new trick. Mongering is not easy.I wouldn't worry about a thing for now. If the protests continue and if the protesters get their way Gascue will be in for just another change. I said it in the Sosua thread when the December 3 crackdown went into effect and I will say it here. Santo Domingo will NOT miss the monger's dollar if every single monger packed up and left. I have seen a greater increase in "normal" tourists in SD over the past six months or so. A busload of regular tourist will more than compensate for the few pesos mongers spend.
thanks mr. knowledge. good to read the feelings from a resident. some mongers seem to think their few pesos spent should dictate what residents have to deal with. sure i have mentioned i miss the cleanup of the sw but i know for a fact if i lived in gascue i wouldn't want them on the streets either.
i definetly thought mystik would be one of the hotels mentioned and i guess with the increase of mongers staying at jaguar that would also be one. do you have the complete list of hotels mentioned? was riazor also one of them? do you expect any of the hotels mentioned to change their chica policy?
i agree the vice in gazcue is not probably a nuisance to you. but that is because you don't live there. you don't have to deal with finding used condoms in your building parking areas, explaining to your children what the pot bellied gringo with his pants around his ankles was doing with the overdressed woman in the bushes below their window, replacing the fog lights a panhandler stole off your car, or cleaning the smell of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and beer off your sidewalks. it gets old really quickly when it's not a once in a while vacation blowout.
by the way, one of the hotels described as a brothel in the diario libre piece is the jaguar, the mystik is another.
the hipolito vs. leonel situation is really not as complicated as it may seem. influence peddling and payoffs rule dominican politics. the military controls organized sex work. as in the past, the legitimate complaints of community activists will result in a compromise. you will see limited operating hours, noise restrictions, and the elimination of neon and arm waving touts. at least for a while. the pasteur strip is not likely to go away because there are no more than two or three residential properties left on it and very few are left near it.
Cuba Tourist
04-14-11, 02:04
I just made a 36 hour stop in SD. I wanted to thank my friend here for helping me find a great driver. I had 3 chicas, all of whom were GFE. I left the country with tears in my eyes.
By the way, one of the hotels described as a brothel in the Diario Libre piece is the Jaguar, the Mystik is another.Could it be that the larger hotels in Gazcue, who are losing business to the small hotels, started a smear campaign? Here in New York and in most other hotels I have stayed at in other cities, once I paid for my room, I could bring whomever I wanted to my room. I understand the big hotels in Gazcue not being chica friendly, they don't want some crazy pro chica running around the place. A small chica friendly hotel in Gazcue with one security guard is able to control any problems a pro chica may present. Large hotels in other cities are able to have adequate security to manage any unruly guests a client may bring in. Maybe the owners of the large hotels in Gazcue don't want to hire extra personnel, maybe the owners of the large hotels in Gazcue only think of maximizing their profits and started a smear campaign against small chica friendly hotels.
I have not stayed at Mystik and I have not stayed at Jaguar. I have never read nor heard of, any chicas being available at either of those two hotels for pay for play. If the Dominican Republic had a functioning Judiciary, if I was the owner of either of those two hotels I would file a lawsuit against Diario Libre and / or any other groups for libel / slander, who called the hotels brothels.
Typical corporate greed.
Does Gazcue have paved roads? Does Gazcue have electricity just about all the time? Does Gazcue have running water just about all the time? Are the people in Gazcue somehow superior and entitled to more than other Dominicans? I have been in plenty of areas in the DR where the streets were dirt, where there was no electricity for more than 10 hours per day and no running water for the same time period.
I lived in the neighborhood called Tribeca in New York City for over 20 years, John F. Kennedy, Jr, lived two blocks from me, Robert De Niro put up a hotel near where I lived. My office was located across the street from the World Trade Center, so I would walk those streets all hours of the day and night. I saw people having sex in alleys or in cars (so what, no big deal). I saw drunk people, crime occurred, it was part of living in a city. I don't live in the city anymore and I don't miss it and If I had children, I would probably not raise them in the city (I grew up in the Bronx).
There are many other monger destinations in the World. In my opinion, some people in the DR could use any and all dollars that Mongers bring into the country. If some people in DR want to chase away Mongers from the DR, I can easily buy an airplane for Brasil or Colombia or Thailand or any other of the many other monger destinations in the world. Seems to me some people in Gazcue have blinders on and are oblivious to the poverty and poor living conditions that many Dominicans endure, chase away any Monger dollars that may help those people, not very charitable. Same here in the US, many very rich people don't want to help those who are less fortunate, it is all about buying more cars, buying bigger houses or bigger yachts and shitting on the little guy.
Thanks Mr. Knowledge. Good to read the feelings from a resident. Some mongers seem to think their few pesos spent should dictate what residents have to deal with. Sure I have mentioned I miss the cleanup of the SW but I know for a fact if I lived in Gascue I wouldn't want them on the streets either.
I definetly thought Mystik would be one of the hotels mentioned and I guess with the increase of mongers staying at Jaguar that would also be one. Do you have the complete list of hotels mentioned? Was Riazor also one of them? Do you expect any of the hotels mentioned to change their chica policy? I am planning my first trip to DR in May. Now I'm wondering if I should. I was debating between the Jaguar, Riazor, Senorial, or the Duque De Wellington. Anyone have any recommendations? Would like a good mattress!
Thanks Mr. Knowledge. Good to read the feelings from a resident. Some mongers seem to think their few pesos spent should dictate what residents have to deal with. Sure I have mentioned I miss the cleanup of the SW but I know for a fact if I lived in Gascue I wouldn't want them on the streets either.
I definetly thought Mystik would be one of the hotels mentioned and I guess with the increase of mongers staying at Jaguar that would also be one. Do you have the complete list of hotels mentioned? Was Riazor also one of them? Do you expect any of the hotels mentioned to change their chica policy?Do you really believe the Dominican Republic can afford to lose any tax revenue?
The Dominican Republic receives about $130US in taxes on every foreign passenger airline ticket. After that most hotels and restaurants charge an additional 26% in taxes. Rent a car and more taxes. Waiters and waitresses and small restaurant owners will not miss the monger dollar?
Camden, New Jersey recently laid off half of its police force and 60 of its firefighters because of budget woes. There are many other cities and municipalities in the United States that could be facing bankruptcy. http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/17/news/economy/camden_police_layoffs/index.htm
The Dominican Republic received a loan of 1. 7 billion US Dollars from the IMF, http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_s.asp?StoryId=1093281986
Do you think a country (Dom Rep) that needs loans from the IMF and grants from the World Bank is in a position to chase away tourists, when at the same time many US cities are facing bankruptcy?
I am planning my first trip to DR in May. Now I'm wondering if I should. I was debating between the Jaguar, Riazor, Senorial, or the Duque De Wellington. Anyone have any recommendations? Would like a good mattress!Why not go to Boca Chica, one ISG member loves to promote Boca Chica (even though that ISG member spends very little time in Boca Chica, when he is in DR).
Jaguar, Riazor, Duque de Wellington are in the Gazcue section of Santo Domingo.
With some residents in Gazcue making a fuss about Mongers, I would not recommend staying in Gazcue. Maybe best if you chose another country and take your money to a place where it will be appreciated.
Why not go to Boca Chica, one ISG member loves to promote Boca Chica (even though that ISG member spends very little time in Boca Chica, when he is in DR).
Jaguar, Riazor, Duque de Wellington are in the Gazcue section of Santo Domingo.
With some residents in Gazcue making a fuss about Mongers, I would not recommend staying in Gazcue. Maybe best if you chose another country and take your money to a place where it will be appreciated.Good shot Jao, but we are all in the same boat looking for a life raft as the boat sinks. We all want that new adventure but we have to pull back the reigns and appreciate the trott. I have Medellin plus my hideaway in Puerto Plata. You have your previous established connections plus you're safe spots. But its hard to be tranquillo and not fantasize about an up and coming spot.
You preach Juan Dolio, I preach Boca, but our hopes are like betting on snake eyes.
The newbies need our help. But with the changes happening everyday, we are leading the lost as we try to find our way. But we can't give up.
One thing you may want to try at the Jaragua Hotel and Casino, when you check in, give the name of your Punta Cana chica and give the names of two other chicas, choose any female Spanish sounding names (if during your stay, you find another chica for a trio, tell her to say her name is one of the names you gave at check in, if they ask for her cedula, it got stolen). When I stayed at the Jaragua years ago, I gave the names of three chicas, who I knew would be visiting me. One chica visited me in the afternoon with her sister and we went directly to the pool. After the pool, the chica and her sister took the elevator in the tower section, to the floor where my room was located, security never stopped them.
On a different night at the Jaragua, I entered with a chica and I had to stop at the front desk and she had to show her cedula (identification) and the worker checked her name with the names I had given at check in and she was allowed to enter.
When I stayed in the garden section, I tried to enter with three different chicas on different days and the security guy stationed at the entrance to the garden section had a printout with the names of the guests staying there, I had not given any chicas names at check in for that trip and none of the chicas were able to enter.
Some hotels have cameras and some security guys are afraid that they are being watched and sometimes reluctant to break the rules for fear of losing their jobs.
There will always be pros in Santo Domingo. The casas and the chica friendly hotels in gazcue are not a nuisance, some people complaining in Gazcue are just trying to score political points, nothing more. Some Dominicans prefer Hipolito Mejia solely based on the color of his skin, he is light skin, whereas Leonel is moreno. Mejia was probably one of the most corrupt and incompetent presidents of the DR. In Gazcue, being an old neighborhood, probably has some old timers who probably long for the days of the dictator Trujillo and probably can't accept having a president who is moreno and will * and moan, just to make Leonel look bad (very similar to the US, where some white folks can't accept having a 1/2 African American as president)
If you can't get into the Jaragua with the second chica, you can walk 4 blocks to the hotel navarro and rent a room there for a few hours for around 800 pesos. Cabanas are not really close to the Jaragua, you would have to pay for a taxi round-trip and lose time getting there. If your punta cana chica has an open mind, visit some casas with her. I have seen women visiting club 305. If your chica wants to do a trio with another chica, you can suggest that she pick out the other chica. Girls House on Ave. Pasteur is not recommended. I know the owner of Club 305 and Satin Dolls, both of whom are nice people, who speak English. Lapsus would be the closest place to the Jaragua, make a left after exiting the rear gate of the Jaragua and Lapsus will be on your right within a block or two on Avenue Independencia. I have not been in Lapsus in over 7 years. Foxys on the Malecon may have some fine chicas and some of the chicas do a strip show there. I have been told Foxys' prices are 6 to 8 thousand pesos. Right now Jaragua in my price range of what I would want to pay and I would not want to stay my whole time there but maybe a night or two. Now If you give names at check in of girls that may be visiting you are you saying that a different girl on a different day would be allowed up? I had always thought maybe mistakenly that a hotels like Jaragua that they would only allowed the 1 chica you registered and thats it.
Good shot Jao, but we are all in the same boat looking for a life raft as the boat sinks. We all want that new adventure but we have to pull back the reigns and appreciate the trott. I have Medellin plus my hideaway in Puerto Plata. You have your previous established connections plus you're safe spots. But its hard to be tranquillo and not fantasize about an up and coming spot.
You preach Juan Dolio, I preach Boca, but our hopes are like betting on snake eyes.
The newbies need our help. But with the changes happening everyday, we are leading the lost as we try to find our way. But we can't give up. I was not referring to you in my post. You do not make 10 or more trips per year using the Santo Domingo Airport and you are not continually trying to promote Boca Chica. Another ISG member makes many trips per year using the Santo Domingo Airport and that other ISG member continually tries to promote boca chica and yet that same ISG member spends very little time in boca chica.
Juan Dolio is 15 minutes or less from Boca Chica. The highway after boca chica to juan dolio is scenic and in good shape. At Juan Dolio Beach you can walk into the sea and have your body covered with water while standing, in a short period of time. At Boca Chica you probably have to walk over 100 feet in the water before it becomes a little deep.
During the week, the beach at Juan Dolio is quiet, I can park my car in parking spaces that front the beach and see my car when I go swimming. So if I am alone and I have an early morning flight, with my luggage in the car, I can go swimming at the beach in Juan Dolio and keep an eye on my car so nothing gets stolen. I would never do that at playa boca chica.
You had a problem with one chica from Girls House in Santo Domingo and I can understand how that left a bad taste with you. I offered to introduce you to chicas from Bani or San Cristobal or San Pedro de Marcoris (because you may have a bad feeling about chicas from santo domingo). Also in your prior post you mentioned about finding a place that doesn't have many gringos and then staying quiet about it. Bani, San Cristobal or San Pedro de Marcoris are not saturated with gringos.
I have been rip offed (robbed) in boca chica, I have read other posts where guys were rip offed or robbed in boca chica. If another ISG member wants to promote and encourage mongers to go to boca chica, makes no sense to me why that same monger spends very little time in boca chica, within the 10 or more trips per year that he makes using the SDQ airport.
Some guys don't care about how a beach may look or the surrounding areas. Some guys may not care if they are surrounded by people who are interested in robbing or ripping them off. Makes no difference to me if every monger decides to go boca chica and everyone proclaims that boca chica is the number 1 monger spot in the world.
For guys who are only interested in sport fucking (having sex with as many chicas as possible in a short period of time, regardless of the looks, health or performance of the chica) I would guess Boca Chica would be better than Juan Dolio for that.
Right now Jaragua in my price range of what I would want to pay and I would not want to stay my whole time there but maybe a night or two. Now If you give names at check in of girls that may be visiting you are you saying that a different girl on a different day would be allowed up? I had always thought maybe mistakenly that a hotels like Jaragua that they would only allowed the 1 chica you registered and thats it.I would advise you to skip the Jaragua Hotel and Casino for mongering purposes, unless you will be with chicas whose names you already know. At the Jaragua, when I entered with one female guest, the security had me go to the front desk, where she had to show her cedula and her name was checked with the list of names I gave at check in.
Depending upon how the chica looks or the time of day, you may be be able to get a chica to your room at the Jaragua without security stopping you. Later on in the evening, almost assuredly security will stop you.
One ISG member said the Courtyard by Marriott is guest friendly. That hotel is on Avenida Maximo Gomez, not too far from the casas in Gazcue. I have never stayed there and cannot confirm how guest friendly it may be.
ISG member Manizales wrote in a post that when he stayed at the hotel melia, he gave a a security guy about 500 pesos and Manizales said he was able bring a pro to his room.
For the rate that the Jaragua will charge (over $100 per night, no free internet, over priced beer) , you and your crew could rent an apartment or apartments with kitchens, and enter and exit with whomever you want.
.......The Dominican Republic receives about $130US in taxes on every foreign passenger airline ticket............No they do NOT receive that much on each and every tourist. Check one of your airline receipts.
The monger dollar ain't crap. The monger dollar is NOT building new highway, bridges, and tunnels. If the Gascue residents are sucessful in shuting down every casa in Gascue and every monger never returns life will just go on. When and if the mongers leave they will simply be replaced by more tourists. You can't be blind to have not seen the recent increase in regular tourism in SD. This is the same sorry tale that was previously mentioned on the Sosua thread. Now Sosua is reporting a steady increase of "regular" tourists. If you honestly think the monger is keeping Santo Domingo afloat you need a serious reality check.
I was not referring to you in my post. You do not make 10 or more trips per year using the Santo Domingo Airport and you are not continually trying to promote Boca Chica. Another ISG member makes many trips per year using the Santo Domingo Airport and that other ISG member continually tries to promote boca chica and yet that same ISG member spends very little time in boca chica.........Hahahahaha
No they do NOT receive that much on each and every tourist. Check one of your airline receipts.
The monger dollar ain't crap. The monger dollar is NOT building new highway, bridges, and tunnels. If the Gascue residents are sucessful in shuting down every casa in Gascue and every monger never returns life will just go on. When and if the mongers leave they will simply be replaced by more tourists. You can't be blind to have not seen the recent increase in regular tourism in SD. This is the same sorry tale that was previously mentioned on the Sosua thread. Now Sosua is reporting a steady increase of "regular" tourists. If you honestly think the monger is keeping Santo Domingo afloat you need a serious reality check.I hope the DR can repay its loans. I am sure Camden, New Jersey could use a 1 billion dollar loan, to rehire the police officers and firefighters that were laid off.
I don't see many "normal" tourists walking around late at night in Santo Domingo, or at Manolos late at night, or in Coppa discoteca.
Obviously the DR is in need of money, otherwise it would not be borrowing 1. 7 billion dollars from the IMF. If a country like the DR feels it can chase away male monger tourists, who spend money in hotels, restaurants, bars and then turn around and ask for loans to keep it itself afloat, that kind of REALITY makes no sense to me.
Regular tourism in Santo Domingo? What does Santo Domingo have to offer a family of four from Kansas (a husband, wife and two young children)? A regular tourist once they have visited the cathedral, museums in zona colonial, there is not much after that really worth returning to santo domingo for.
Nightlife? Most bars have to close early because of the curfew. No beach in Santo Domingo. Horrible traffic with vehicles that are not required to pass any emissions tests, so the air at times is heavily polluted with carcinogens and toxins. You think that is where a family with young children should be out, walking around with their young children? If you think Santo Domingo will become a top tourist destination you need a reality check. You should go and tell the waiters and waitresses and pro chicas in Santo Domingo that they don't need monger dollars, that some normal tourists will make them rich in the future and see what kind of response you get. By the way if a guy is a bargain basement monger who has a budget of 300 pesos ($2US) for food per day in SDQ and who never frequents bars and who refuses to pay more than 1000 ($27US) pesos for a pro, more than likely that type of monger would not be missed in Santo Domingo. Fortunately or Unfortunately there are mongers who go to santo domingo, who eat at restaurants and drink in bars and who may spend 2500 pesos ($67US) on a casa chica. If it is your opinion that the Dominican Republic does not NEED the money from those types mongers, then good for you. Maybe you can write a check to the DR government to help them pay off their loans and help makeup for the monger dollars you imply they don't NEED, since you are of the opinion that the Dominican government will manage perfectly fine without monger dollars.
No they do NOT receive that much on each and every tourist. Check one of your airline receipts.On a round-trip ticket, with the cost of the $10 tourist card that must be purchased at the airport included, how much money has the Dominican government received before a monger has even stepped outside the airport?
I would advise you to skip the Jaragua Hotel and Casino for mongering purposes, unless you will be with chicas whose names you already know. At the Jaragua, when I entered with one female guest, the security had me go to the front desk, where she had to show her cedula and her name was checked with the list of names I gave at check in.
Depending upon how the chica looks or the time of day, you may be be able to get a chica to your room at the Jaragua without security stopping you. Later on in the evening, almost assuredly security will stop you.
One ISG member said the Courtyard by Marriott is guest friendly. That hotel is on Avenida Maximo Gomez, not too far from the casas in Gazcue. I have never stayed there and cannot confirm how guest friendly it may be.
ISG member Manizales wrote in a post that when he stayed at the hotel melia, he gave a a security guy about 500 pesos and Manizales said he was able bring a pro to his room.
For the rate that the Jaragua will charge (over $100 per night, no free internet, over priced beer) , you and your crew could rent an apartment or apartments with kitchens, and enter and exit with whomever you want. Ok yes that would not suit me but for one buddy it would he is one chica (every once in awile maybe 2) guy on a trip. Now for May Jaragua price on Travelvolicty is running around 75. 00 I guess May is a slower month for them.
Ok yes that would not suit me but for one buddy it would he is one chica (every once in awile maybe 2) guy on a trip. Now for May Jaragua price on Travelvolicty is running around 75. 00 I guess May is a slower month for them.Travelocity may not include the 26% in taxes, if your friend books with Travelocity have him confirm the total price before paying. Boricua Online suggested booking directly from Marriott for the Jaragua and room upgrades may be more freely given.
BoricuaOnline
04-15-11, 02:34
Ok yes that would not suit me but for one buddy it would he is one chica (every once in awile maybe 2) guy on a trip. Now for May Jaragua price on Travelvolicty is running around 75. 00 I guess May is a slower month for them.Jaragua prices have not changed in over a decade. This first time I stayed there was in 1998, I paid $89 per day. Jaragua was guest friendly, the first night of my stay I went to the Merengue bar which is inside the casino and seated in the left part of the area. Live music as always. There were a lot of girls seated inside Merengue bar and next to me, all looking at me and smiling. I was a rookie in the city but it do not take me a minute to realize that they were working girls. There were near 20 girls. A girl offered to me for $100 for an all nighter and I agreed but let the girl know that I was with only $40 with me. We went to the room, had sex, she was there for 2 hours and invented an excuse to skip the all night agreement. Thanks monger god (Bellacus) I paid her only $40. On next night that brunnete converted into a blonde and greeted in Merengue bar me and asked for the rest of the money, WTF? Welcome to Dominican Republic boricuaonline. I fastly replied, we agreed on $100 for an all nighter and you stayed there only two hours so no more money for you! Years later girls were moved out of Merengue bar to the casino area so it was common to see a couple dozen working chicas spread around the casino. I went to the SD a month ago and do not see any of the regulars there, just a couple of chicas outside the casino.
All hotels were guest friendly by 1998. Years later Jaragua, Melia and Quinto Centenario changed their guest policy almost at the same time so I believe they were under an agreement to avoid "special guests" in hotel rooms. Most streetgirls were not "parked" in a corner as we have seen on recent years, they were actively walking down and up el malecon, I hope they read this post and began doing as they did a decade ago. It was good to go to el malecon and being stopped by a couple chicas everytime you walk.
Actually Jaragua is not guest friendly, if you know a girl you can register up to two girls at the time you make reservations.Price for a single, double or triple room is the same. You increase your chances of getting a room upgrade if you reserve directly on Marriot webpage.
BoricuaOnline
04-15-11, 03:45
Gazcue got his name because of Francisco Gazcue who established his home there in 1735. The zone was completely urbanized a hundred years ago. Streets full of trees, large houses with indoor and outdoor gardens were constructed in the area. Gazcue original residents were business owners and important politicians. At the end of the 80's, with the construction of new city areas as for example Naco, Piantini among others and the emigration to the United States Gazcue lost a significant percentage of its residents, increasing the conversion of some residences to other than its original use. Today, despite laws that prevent buildings over six floors, Gazcue has been losing its architectural grandeur due to the multiple constructions of the most varied styles that break the harmony it once had. There is a relatively large construction behind 305, anybody knows what is it? Gazcue residents are in fact against almost everything that was not part of original Gazcue: brothels, lottery and sport banks, crappy street vendors. I believe that major hotels are pushing against small hotels because they are taking clients away from them. They claim there are 20 Gazcue hotels that are brothels, so they are including all Gazcue hotels in this generalization.
I first visited Santo Domingo in 1998 and by that time there were only a couple of casas in the area: Lapsus, Elegant Center (now Sky High) and a couple of year later El Cisne. Yellow House opened for a couple of years almost in front of Jaguar, the Tabu which was destroyed last year and Monalisa. Actually we have Lapsus. 305, Sky High, Girls House, Satin Dolls, La Parada, the place next to La Cadena with the ugly girls, we had 56 Pasteus for a few months and Baby Dolls a little far away.
Gazcue was pictured on HBO Series Urban Sex as the main prostitution spot of the city so it is highly probable that residents are not happy with this designation of their living area. I suggest casas to offer Gazcue residents discounts and year passes as Disney offers to Florida residents to gain the goodwill of local residents. Just imagine this: 'Back to college promotion: visit 305 from 5:00 to 10:00 pm, pay for normal sex and get anal sex for free! And the first beer is on us! (valid for Gazcue residents only, guys with members 7 inches and larger are subject to additional charges per inch to cover for insurance costs)
BoricuaOnline
04-15-11, 03:52
I am planning my first trip to DR in May. Now I'm wondering if I should. I was debating between the Jaguar, Riazor, Senorial, or the Duque De Wellington. Anyone have any recommendations? Would like a good mattress!If a good mattress means a good place to have sex then any of the places you mention are ok, if you want the most confortable bed then Jaguar is your place. Be aware Duque de Wellington is a gay friendly hotel if that is important for you.
Right now Jaragua in my price range of what I would want to pay and I would not want to stay my whole time there but maybe a night or two. Now If you give names at check in of girls that may be visiting you are you saying that a different girl on a different day would be allowed up? I had always thought maybe mistakenly that a hotels like Jaragua that they would only allowed the 1 chica you registered and thats it.Occidental El Embajador (the ambassador) , when I stayed there was a multiple chica friendly hotel. It is located in the neighborhood called bella vista. Very nice pool, with a building near the pool with sauna, steam-room and gym. Very nice breakfast buffet in a building located near the pool, breakfast and free wifi was included in the room rate I paid.
Bella Vista shopping mall would be close. Also Plaza Acropolis with Docks bar, with a mall and hooters would be closer to the el embajador, than Gazcue. Streetwalkers used to be in front of el embajador and on avenida sarasota a few blocks from the el embajador. I saw street walkers on Ave jimenez moya (churchill) near the malecon, last time I was in santo domingo. Dreams House if it is still open would be closer to el embajador, as would Pink Pony and the penthouse.
You can use Kayak. Com to do a search for hotels in santo domingo. I have seen the El Embajador for around $90 per night using a coupon code with orbitz.
If a good mattress means a good place to have sex then any of the places you mention are ok, if you want the most confortable bed then Jaguar is your place. Be aware Duque de Wellington is a gay friendly hotel if that is important for you.The Jaguar it is then! Thanks for the warning about the Duque!
Why not go to Boca Chica, one ISG member loves to promote Boca Chica (even though that ISG member spends very little time in Boca Chica, when he is in DR).
Jaguar, Riazor, Duque de Wellington are in the Gazcue section of Santo Domingo.
With some residents in Gazcue making a fuss about Mongers, I would not recommend staying in Gazcue. Maybe best if you chose another country and take your money to a place where it will be appreciated. Tsk, tsk, tsk, such sarcasm. Isn't there enough pu**y for everyone? :)
Tsk, tsk, tsk, such sarcasm. Isn't there enough pu**y for everyone? :)Sarcasm? Maybe you don't read too much. I'll clue you in a little. There has been a crackdown in Santo Domingo on prostitution. Some residents in Gazcue are very pissed at Mongering activities in Gazcue. The Jaguar Hotel has been called a brothel recently in the news (brothels are illegal in Dom Rep). The Jaguar hotel is in Gazcue. Maybe the citizens of Gazcue will get the government to shut down the hotel jaguar (sarcasm? You show up in Santo Domingo and the hotel you chose might be closed, go and have fun looking for a another hotel) (Sarcasm? You show up and the casas in gazcue might be shut down). But you know it all, so why ask questions on this thread?
Just what Gazcue needs, more mongers like you.
One senior member on this board recommends Boca Chica, are you inferring in your reply that his recommendation is wrong?
You think my posts are sarcastic, do me a favor, you can easily block my posts from appearing. Best if you don't waste your time reading my posts.
The Jaguar it is then! Thanks for the warning about the Duque!The best rooms at Jaguar are 201, 202, and 204 or 301, 302, and 304. 01 and 02 are in the front of the hotel and 04 is on the side. All rooms have in room Wi-Fi, A/C, and frig.
Flaco Loco
04-15-11, 19:07
. I suggest casas to offer Gazcue residents discounts and year passes as Disney offers to Florida residents to gain the goodwill of local residents. Just imagine this: 'Back to college promotion: visit 305 from 5:00 to 10:00 pm, pay for normal sex and get anal sex for free! And the first beer is on us! (valid for Gazcue residents only, guys with members 7 inches and larger are subject to additional charges per inch to cover for insurance costs)LMFAO, Boricua you're one funny MFer!
Flaco Loco
04-15-11, 19:19
I have been to both places just once. This is my observation from my limited time there.
Juan Dolio: There is a more well to do guest population. Many middle aged well off men who go there to golf and some European families. Very small and limited in venues, not a great place to monger. That being said there is some P4P to be had. Very safe and I never felt threatened in anyway. The beach was very nice with white sand and very nice water. I would return maybe with a chica for a relaxing get away from SD.
Boca Chica: Very heavy monger guest population. Very small amount of venues (one block) catering to mongers and chicas. P4P everywhere to the point of annoyance. Very easy to monger. I felt very uncomfortable many times, plenty of hustlers both male and female. I don't remember what the beach was like. I would not return.
Just my two cents from very limited experience.
I thought this was the Santo Domingo thread. Can't we move any Boca Chica discussions to either the Boca Chica thread or to Mr. Gogo thread (Gogo thread pretty much talks about all of rep dom).
ItalianStallion1
04-16-11, 01:39
We are currently checked into the Jaragua after Napaliotano (no ac, ants, dirty, etc.) and we are looking for higher quality chicas. For the past three days we frequented Lapsus (3000) , Gils House (3000) , Skyhigh (3000) , Satin Dolls (3000) and Copa (ask 3000-6000 but most take 2000). None are the quality us 30's yo are looking for.
In the lobby of the Jaragual there are amazing model looking, sexy, classy, insanely beautiful women that must be models based on their height. This is what we are looking for but unfortunately they are not working girls.
We have been asking around and have been told numerous times that Casa Teresa is a higher quality location. Any information if this is true or if there is a better place before we head out tonight.
Thanks in advance-
-IS
We are currently checked into the Jaragua after Napaliotano (no ac, ants, dirty, etc.) and we are looking for higher quality chicas. For the past three days we frequented Lapsus (3000) , Gils House (3000) , Skyhigh (3000) , Satin Dolls (3000) and Copa (ask 3000-6000 but most take 2000). None are the quality us 30's yo are looking for.
In the lobby of the Jaragual there are amazing model looking, sexy, classy, insanely beautiful women that must be models based on their height. This is what we are looking for but unfortunately they are not working girls.
We have been asking around and have been told numerous times that Casa Teresa is a higher quality location. Any information if this is true or if there is a better place before we head out tonight.
Thanks in advance-
-ISFoxys on the Malecon and near Foxys is the Baby Dolls. Casa Theresa at night with not much traffic about a 15 minute ride from Jaragua. Located a few blocks from Casa Theresa is casa azul. If you go to casa theresa you might as well stop at casa azul. I saw some amazon looking chicas in casa theresa a few times (tall chicas with big tits and big ass).
Casa de Modelos which is closer to the Hilton is another option. Club MC, Penthouse and Pink Pony are 20 minutes or more from the Jaragua (no traffic). Friday night, head over to avenida Venezuela.
Nice looking waitresses at le base bar on avenida espana and also eagle sports bar on ave san isidro (both of these bars are on the other side of the river).
For middle class and up, non-pro chicas, you could visit plaza uris (ave roberto pastoriza) , not too far away from GBP. Mint might get packed tonight late (hotel napolitano).
Bigbuttluva
04-16-11, 04:43
I hope the DR can repay its loans. I am sure Camden, New Jersey could use a 1 billion dollar loan, to rehire the police officers and firefighters that were laid off.
I don't see many "normal" tourists walking around late at night in Santo Domingo, or at Manolos late at night, or in Coppa discoteca.
Obviously the DR is in need of money, otherwise it would not be borrowing 1. 7 billion dollars from the IMF. If a country like the DR feels it can chase away male monger tourists, who spend money in hotels, restaurants, bars and then turn around and ask for loans to keep it itself afloat, that kind of REALITY makes no sense to me.
Regular tourism in Santo Domingo? What does Santo Domingo have to offer a family of four from Kansas (a husband, wife and two young children)? A regular tourist once they have visited the cathedral, museums in zona colonial, there is not much after that really worth returning to santo domingo for.
Nightlife? Most bars have to close early because of the curfew. No beach in Santo Domingo. Horrible traffic with vehicles that are not required to pass any emissions tests, so the air at times is heavily polluted with carcinogens and toxins. You think that is where a family with young children should be out, walking around with their young children? If you think Santo Domingo will become a top tourist destination you need a reality check. You should go and tell the waiters and waitresses and pro chicas in Santo Domingo that they don't need monger dollars, that some normal tourists will make them rich in the future and see what kind of response you get. By the way if a guy is a bargain basement monger who has a budget of 300 pesos ($2US) for food per day in SDQ and who never frequents bars and who refuses to pay more than 1000 ($27US) pesos for a pro, more than likely that type of monger would not be missed in Santo Domingo. Fortunately or Unfortunately there are mongers who go to santo domingo, who eat at restaurants and drink in bars and who may spend 2500 pesos ($67US) on a casa chica. If it is your opinion that the Dominican Republic does not NEED the money from those types mongers, then good for you. Maybe you can write a check to the DR government to help them pay off their loans and help makeup for the monger dollars you imply they don't NEED, since you are of the opinion that the Dominican government will manage perfectly fine without monger dollars. It's amusing when grown-ups are trading words over the prosperity of the DR in the absence or presence of mongering revenues. GUYS! Nuff is enough!
[QUOTE=Delta Flier; 1139645]Spot on Jaosousa. I'm an analyst by trade so it's in my nature to spend hours upon hours doing research. Like I said, I took me a full day to read through dozens of posts on Sosua from USSG and the Other site but it was well worth it. I wrote down the names of places I saw repeatedly and did the math. These must be the top spots for the mongers. SDQ was very intimidating at first but I essentially did the same thing last night and spent hours reading through posts and looking at "The Map" the one of our members put together. It all makes sense now! Feel quite a bit more confident and am ready to explore Santo Domingo next week. I think my first stop will be Senora Australia's place.
Can someone please tell me where I can view the "Map"? Thank you.
It's amusing when grown-ups are trading words over the prosperity of the DR in the absence or presence of mongering revenues. GUYS! Nuff is enough!It is not so amusing when members who contribute practically zero to the forum, chime in with snide comments.
UcBrother79
04-16-11, 15:08
The Map "
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&ll=18.467703
", I'm not responsible for the original posting I believe it was Boricua Online. Please correct me guys if I'm wrong.
i would be willing to bet that you are a member of the opposing political party, the party of hipolito mejia, the prd.
i have no clue why a monger would want to have sex in some bushes with an overdressed woman, very bizarre. i would have gotten my baseball bat and went outside and chased the guy away.
i can remember you posting how it was possible to pick up a streetwalker for 500 pesos, in santo domingo and take her to a hotel's parking lot for sex. if some tourist was visiting that hotel with his young daughters and and his daughters happened to look out the window to the parking area, it is possible, those daughters could see some guy having sex.
maybe the monger in the bushes was staying at the jaragua or the melia or the v centanario in gazcue and was prevented from taking his chica to his room (the only hotels in the world that i know of, that prevent a client from bringing in a guest). maybe the monger in the bushes had read that the 20 chica friendly hotels in gazcue were brothels and he was afraid to use a brothel hotel. maybe the monger in the bushes had a rental car but was afraid to drive to a cabana, because he knew he would get pulled over and harassed by policia nacional who look to supplement their income, because the dr government refuses to pay them a decent salary. or maybe the guy in the bushes did not want to take a taxi to one of the cabanas because he knew, as a tourist he would be overcharged by the taxi drivers.
i agree the vice in gazcue is not probably a nuisance to you. but that is because you don't live there. you don't have to deal with finding used condoms in your building parking areas, explaining to your children what the pot bellied gringo with his pants around his ankles was doing with the overdressed woman in the bushes below their window, replacing the fog lights a panhandler stole off your car, or cleaning the smell of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and beer off your sidewalks. it gets old really quickly when it's not a once in a while vacation blowout.
by the way, one of the hotels described as a brothel in the diario libre piece is the jaguar, the mystik is another.
the hipolito vs. leonel situation is really not as complicated as it may seem. influence peddling and payoffs rule dominican politics. the military controls organized sex work. as in the past, the legitimate complaints of community activists will result in a compromise. you will see limited operating hours, noise restrictions, and the elimination of neon and arm waving touts. at least for a while. the pasteur strip is not likely to go away because there are no more than two or three residential properties left on it and very few are left near it.
The monger dollar ain't crap. The monger dollar is NOT building new highway, bridges, and tunnels.US foreign aid to Dom Rep; 2007= $34 million US dollars. 2008= $50 million. 2009= $51 million. 2010= $49 million and $42 million dollars has been requested for 2011.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41482.pdf
ItalianStallion1
04-16-11, 18:29
Foxys on the Malecon and near Foxys is the Baby Dolls. Casa Theresa at night with not much traffic about a 15 minute ride from Jaragua. Located a few blocks from Casa Theresa is casa azul. If you go to casa theresa you might as well stop at casa azul. I saw some amazon looking chicas in casa theresa a few times (tall chicas with big tits and big ass).
Casa de Modelos which is closer to the Hilton is another option. Club MC, Penthouse and Pink Pony are 20 minutes or more from the Jaragua (no traffic). Friday night, head over to avenida Venezuela.
Nice looking waitresses at le base bar on avenida espana and also eagle sports bar on ave san isidro (both of these bars are on the other side of the river).
For middle class and up, non-pro chicas, you could visit plaza uris (ave roberto pastoriza) , not too far away from GBP. Mint might get packed tonight late (hotel napolitano). Thank you very much Jaosausa-
We had the best night thus far with the best quality women last night due to your help. We pulled some of our other wedding party friends out of the nasty Tabu (2500) and brought them to Casa Teresa (3500) and Baby Dolls (3500) for complete satisfaction for all. Thanks again!
Tonight after the wedding we are looking for a good Saturday night disco with lots of beautiful (non-pro and pro) women in attendance. Additionally, sexy bartenders and waitresses to serve us make for a better night. We already hit Mint and Copa repeadidly so they are out for tonight.
Any Saturday happening clubs with a great crowd (not all dudes) that have some good flirty energy and pumping music?
Thanks again in advance for the help!
-IS
Thank you very much Jaosausa-
We had the best night thus far with the best quality women last night due to your help. We pulled some of our other wedding party friends out of the nasty Tabu (2500) and brought them to Casa Teresa (3500) and Baby Dolls (3500) for complete satisfaction for all. Thanks again!
Tonight after the wedding we are looking for a good Saturday night disco with lots of beautiful (non-pro and pro) women in attendance. Additionally, sexy bartenders and waitresses to serve us make for a better night. We already hit Mint and Copa repeadidly so they are out for tonight.
Any Saturday happening clubs with a great crowd (not all dudes) that have some good flirty energy and pumping music?
Thanks again in advance for the help!
-ISGotik in Hotel Hispaniola (Avenida Lincoln and Avenida Independencia) might be good. Last time I was there it was called LED and on Saturday it a had a young well off crowd. Because it is attached to a hotel with a casino it is allowed to stay open very late. 5am or later. Keep that in mind when you want a late night spot, clubs or bars attached to a hotel with a casino are allowed to stay open after the curfew (gotik, coppa, mint and the disco in Hotel Aurora del Sol). Aurora del Sol is on the other side of the river, about 25 minutes from the Jaragua, I probably would not recommend going there with the wedding party.
There are about four bars in Plaza Uris with a well off young crowd, lots of expensive vehicles parked outside the Plaza. Each of the bars are next door to one another. Each bar has a different style inside, you can easily walk from one to the other, being Italian you might get a kick out of the bar called Sinatra there, that has large photos of old blue eyes. There are some pretty chicas at the bars in Plaza Uris, it is not a pay for play venue, very safe to bring chicas from the wedding party there. Plaza Uris is on the north side of Avenida Roberto Pastoriza between Avenida Lincoln (ave lope de vega starts near ave roberto pastoriza) and avenida tiradentes.
I have been to Praia, very young, rich crowd, I was bored there. Docks bar in Plaza Acropolis, up the stairs from the street on the second floor, is a semi open type of bar, not sure how it is later in the night. Jet Set is kind of far from the Jaragua. Monte Cristo cafe I have heard can be fun.
Plaza Uris is probably the safest bet, good security, well off crowd. 4 different bars so if one person in your group doesn't like one bar, you can easily move to another bar. Later in the evening you can go to one of the bars near the casinos; Gotik, Mint or Coppa.
You can visit Bufeo. Com, to see photos of some of the bars / discos in santo domingo; http://portal.bufeo.com/home/galleries/2161/
With a group of people, it might make economic sense to buy a bottle of vodka or whiskey. Individual drinks can cost $8US or more. If you have two guys with you, three guys each paying $50 each, you can get a bottle for $150, (less or more depending what brand of alcohol you order) , I doubt you want to hit the chicas from the wedding party for money to help pay for the drinks.
I would probably only buy a bottle in one of the clubs attached to a casino; gotik, coppa or mint. Also depends what time you get to the club and how much time you plan on spending there, will determine whether it is worth it to buy a bottle. When you buy a bottle you will be given a table with chairs.
Depends what time the wedding party ends, as to what place you should head to. A Dominican friend of mine, his sister had her wedding at the El Embajador and afterwards they headed over to LED (now called Gotik) in the Hotel Hispaniola.
Have fun.
We pulled some of our other wedding party friends out of the nasty Tabu (2500) and brought them to Casa Teresa (3500) and Baby Dolls (3500) for complete satisfaction for all. Thanks again!Where is Tabu? Tabu just about never gets mentioned here, thanks.
Flaco Loco
04-16-11, 20:03
I thought this was the Santo Domingo thread. Can't we move any Boca Chica discussions to either the Boca Chica thread or to Mr. Gogo thread (Gogo thread pretty much talks about all of rep dom).I agree, let's get back to business.
The Map "
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&ll=18.467703
", I'm not responsible for the original posting I believe it was Boricua Online. Please correct me guys if I'm wrong. You are correct. BoricuaOnline is the originator of the Santo Domingo Mongering Map. In my opinion it is the most valuable piece of information in the Santo Domingo thread. I have been to SD many times but still refer to the map for locations.
BTW if you or any other poster has a favorite location you would like to have added to the map just send BoricuaOnline a PM with the name, location, and brief description. Sorry Boricua to keep you working. LOL
I agree, let's get back to business.Coors beer promotion chicas at the Holiday Inn Hotel in Santo Domingo, photos from bufeo. Com.
Several clubs in the Gazcue neighbourhood were shutdon.
http://www.listin.com.do/la-republica/2011/4/17/185068/Clausuran-seis-bares-en-Gascue
Hillbilly69
04-17-11, 12:46
Several clubs in the Gazcue neighbourhood were shutdon.
http://www.listin.com.do/la-republica/2011/4/17/185068/Clausuran-seis-bares-en-GascueThe National District prosecutor prosecutor closed six bars and nightclubs in Gascue sector of the capital, during a surprise operation carried out last Friday night in this area, the Zona Colonial and New Town.
The bars are closed Club 305, located on Independence Avenue, Shi Aigh, Latin Dolls House and Misty Bar Grill, located on Avenida Pasteur, and stop in Socorro Sanchez Street.
In the operation involved 13 prosecutors, headed by the District Attorney, Alejandro Moscoso Segarra, and about 80 police officers began around 10:00 pm and lasted until dawn.
Moscoso Segarra said that with the intervention of public ministry in the sector given Gascue response to complaints.
Is it true? Club 305?
Is it true? Club 305?Does a bear shit in the woods? It is confirmed and with my luck I got here just in time for it to be closed. Passed by last night and the other three places on Pastuer are also shut down. It should open just after I leave this place. Tried to go to Boca at night and that was also a nightmare. The idiots on the street plus the fact that Duarte was closed to cars made me turn back and call it a night. I did se some SWs on independence a bit further down from the Hilton.
I did not know La Parada was open again. That's how bad this forum is getting. There is more accurate and up to date information in the Listin Diario daily newspaper. LOL.
Well, let's get back to tips about grocery shopping, bars where you will pay 200 pesos for a 50 peso beer so you can relive your senior prom experience and be ignored by insecure groups middle class Dominican girls and of course let's get back to reminiscing about the used up street girls who can no longer work the lighted streets around Gazcue.
The National District prosecutor prosecutor closed six bars and nightclubs in Gascue sector of the capital, during a surprise operation carried out last Friday night in this area, the Zona Colonial and New Town.
The bars are closed Club 305, located on Independence Avenue, Shi Aigh, Latin Dolls House and Misty Bar Grill, located on Avenida Pasteur, and stop in Socorro Sanchez Street.
In the operation involved 13 prosecutors, headed by the District Attorney, Alejandro Moscoso Segarra, and about 80 police officers began around 10:00 pm and lasted until dawn.
Moscoso Segarra said that with the intervention of public ministry in the sector given Gascue response to complaints.
Is it true? Club 305?
does a bear shit in the woods? it is confirmed and with my luck i got here just in time for it to be closed. passed by last night and the other three places on pastuer are also shut down. it should open just after i leave this place. tried to go to boca at night and that was also a nightmare. the idiots on the street plus the fact that duarte was closed to cars made me turn back and call it a night. i did se some sws on independence a bit further down from the hilton.i am sure isg member knowledge is very happy today. isg member knowledge always had a nasty attitude with his posts on this site and i am sure he only read this site to get information to further his own personal agenda (i have my suspicions that his story about a monger in the bushes in front of house was a ruse).
mr. helpmann posted advice before, rent property in dom rep, do not buy property in dom rep. there is no functioning legal system in dom rep. the dr government can come and confirep001e any property they wish.
some of the casas that were shut down, were in business for many years. it took the dr government 5 or more years to figure out that these businesses were violating some law? of course not. those people running the government do whatever they want on a whim and there are no judges and no courts that will stop them. close a business that has been operating out in the open for 5 or more years, sure why not. confirep001e a house, or an apartment owned by a foreigner? no problem, the foreigner loses all the money he used to buy the property.
do not buy property in dr.
for mongers considering where to go, i would advise stay out of santo domingo and probably stay out of dom rep.
there are other islands for a caribbean vacation. makes no sense to me why haiti cannot develop all inclusive hotels along some of its beaches, that could take business away from the dom rep all inclusive hotels.
club 305 was opened in a building that sat empty on avenida independencia for many years. on avenida pasteur across the street from the casas is an empty decrepit house that has sat empty for over 6 years.
maybe a greedy developer wants to build on avenida pasteur and he has paid off someone in the dom rep gpvernment to put pressure on the casas, so that the casa owners are forced to sell at a reduced rate. there is no rule of law in dom rep and there is no respect for property rights in dr. and us taxpayers help support this mickey mouse system of government in the dr.
Azertiefou
04-17-11, 17:39
Hello,
I search review on the services of alexisclub, do you know where I put review on your site?
There is a members of this forum who had try this agency? (alexisclub).
I know that site is expensive but I search just a review or temignage of members of forum on your site.
Thank you answer me
Does a bear shit in the woods? It is confirmed and with my luck I got here just in time for it to be closed. Passed by last night and the other three places on Pastuer are also shut down. It should open just after I leave this place. Tried to go to Boca at night and that was also a nightmare. The idiots on the street plus the fact that Duarte was closed to cars made me turn back and call it a night. I did se some SWs on independence a bit further down from the Hilton.Dominicans in Dom Rep see first hand the corruption and they know there is no rule of law in DR. It will only make many of them more desperate to escape out of the Dom Rep. Which is good news for Foreign Mongers. Some chicas will be kinder and nicer and provide better service as a means to entice some foreigner into marrying them and getting out of the DR.
Selective prosecution of some unknown law, if the casas that were shut down were breaking some unknown law, why haven't all the casas in Santo Domingo been shut down for violating that same unknown law. (all the casas in SDQ operate the same, with the exception of a few that have onsite rooms, the casas with onsite rooms are more like brothels and they have not been shut down).
I am fairly certain that the casas that were shut down are owned by foreigners.
The bartenders, the waitresses, the cleaning ladies for those casas that were shut down, now have no work, there are no unemployment benefits and no social services for those out of a job in DR, rob or steal to put food on the table, is one option they can turn to.
Hello,
I search review on the services of alexisclub, do you know where I put review on your site?
There is a members of this forum who had try this agency? (alexisclub).
I know that site is expensive but I search just a review or temignage of members of forum on your site.
Thank you answer meFrom what I can remember Alexis Club has gotten bad reviews, as such they are not recommended.
There are other places that operate like Alexis, that have gotten good reviews.
Look through the boca chica thread and you will probably find the info regarding the recommended places.
I can't remember the exact names of the recommended places, one begins with the letter V, if I remember correctly.
i hope you are happy, i am sure you helped get the streetwalkers off the streets of gazcue and i am sure you helped get some of the casas closed in gazcue. i hope gazcue at night becomes a ghost town (like zona colonial) and the casas stay vacant for long periods of time and become eyesores (urban blight).
a ghost town at night will be a welcome site for thieves and robbers. if the police in gazcue had any pride they would turn a blind eye when they see crime occurring in gazcue, as a way to protest the low wages they receive. i am sure people of your ilk, don't want to have to pay police a better salary.
you basically used your membership on this site to further your own personal agenda, you may win in the short term, but in the long term you will not win.
i agree the vice in gazcue is not probably a nuisance to you. but that is because you don't live there. you don't have to deal with finding used condoms in your building parking areas, explaining to your children what the pot bellied gringo with his pants around his ankles was doing with the overdressed woman in the bushes below their window, replacing the fog lights a panhandler stole off your car, or cleaning the smell of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and beer off your sidewalks. it gets old really quickly when it's not a once in a while vacation blowout.
by the way, one of the hotels described as a brothel in the diario libre piece is the jaguar, the mystik is another.
the hipolito vs. leonel situation is really not as complicated as it may seem. influence peddling and payoffs rule dominican politics. the military controls organized sex work. as in the past, the legitimate complaints of community activists will result in a compromise. you will see limited operating hours, noise restrictions, and the elimination of neon and arm waving touts. at least for a while. the pasteur strip is not likely to go away because there are no more than two or three residential properties left on it and very few are left near it.
I have to agree with you now. Boca Chica is a much better monger destination than Santo Domingo (I would advise all mongers and tourists to stay away from Dom Rep). I also have to agree with you, if a person is inclined to visit the Dom Rep (which I would advise against). It is best to spend as little money as possible in the Dom Rep. Spending more money in the Dom Rep only makes the crooked politicians in DR richer, no sense in rewarding corruption.
Really doesn't matter if tourists visit DR or people want to invest in DR, the DR doesn't need need tourist dollars or investment money, because the US taxpayer will continue to support the corruption in the DR and the IMF and World Bank will be ready, willing and able to hand out money for incompetence.
No they do NOT receive that much on each and every tourist. Check one of your airline receipts.
The monger dollar ain't crap. The monger dollar is NOT building new highway, bridges, and tunnels. If the Gascue residents are sucessful in shuting down every casa in Gascue and every monger never returns life will just go on. When and if the mongers leave they will simply be replaced by more tourists. You can't be blind to have not seen the recent increase in regular tourism in SD. This is the same sorry tale that was previously mentioned on the Sosua thread. Now Sosua is reporting a steady increase of "regular" tourists. If you honestly think the monger is keeping Santo Domingo afloat you need a serious reality check.
BoricuaOnline
04-17-11, 22:20
The National District prosecutor prosecutor closed six bars and nightclubs in Gascue sector of the capital, during a surprise operation carried out last Friday night in this area, the Zona Colonial and New Town.
The bars are closed Club 305, located on Independence Avenue, Shi Aigh, Latin Dolls House and Misty Bar Grill, located on Avenida Pasteur, and stop in Socorro Sanchez Street. The places are: 305, Mystik, Sky High, Girls House, Satin Dolls and La Parada. There is some typo in Listin Diario report.
The places are: 305, Mystik, Sky High, Girls House, Satin Dolls and La Parada. There is some typo in Listin Diario report.Any thoughts, hearsay, or speculation on why?
1) Lapus was not padlocked?
2) Will this be a permanent closure?
Several clubs in the Gazcue neighbourhood were shutdon.
http://www.listin.com.do/la-republica/2011/4/17/185068/Clausuran-seis-bares-en-GascueColombia, Brasil and Thailand looking better everyday.
Next the geniuses in the DR government will shut down the 20 small hotels in Gazcue, putting the hotel workers, (ie cleaning ladies) out of work. Pure Genius. Tax revenues will go down, Leonel can always ask for more loans and more US tax payer dollars.
I always wondered how a third world country could have so many large, expensive, gas guzzling SUV vehicles roaming the streets. Thank the IMF, World Bank and the US tax payer for that.
The chicas who lived at the casas, will probably have to find new places to live, I guess some can return to live with an abusive chulo boyfriend.
Girls House has been open for at least 8 years, it took the DR government over 8 years to figure out that they were in violation of some law. Why not close all the casas? I am sure the Taliban would love to relocate to a nice warm and sunny spot to set up shop and can give the DR government lots of advice.
Any thoughts, hearsay, or speculation on why?
1) Lapus was not padlocked?
2) Will this be a permanent closure?A more widespread crackdown took place about seven years ago. All the places on Pasteur were shut down. They reopened. I expect the cycle to repeat itself. A few places like Mona Lisa and others did not reopen. I blame it on the greed of the Cuban owner of Girls House and 305. The neon, noise, and hawkers were too much. Things will calm down and slowly go back to a smaller and more tolerable scale.
I did not know La Parada was open again. That's how bad this forum is getting. There is more accurate and up to date information in the Listin Diario daily newspaper. LOL...............Actually Knowledge La Parada has been mentioned several times in different trip reports very recently.
BoricuaOnline
04-18-11, 01:48
A more widespread crackdown took place about seven years ago. All the places on Pasteur were shut down. They reopened. I expect the cycle to repeat itself. A few places like Mona Lisa and others did not reopen. I blame it on the greed of the Cuban owner of Girls House and 305. The neon, noise, and hawkers were too much. Things will calm down and slowly go back to a smaller and more tolerable scale.I remember years ago Sky High was Elegant Center, no neon signs just a discrete sign with black letters, El Cisne front was a beauty parlor, you have to go to the back area for the bar with chicas. Very discrete, but Lapsus has Neon signs and is still open. La Parada is also discrete and far from residential area. Was this a selective crackdown? Are girls going to move to the street corners and we are going to have pretty 3000 pesos streetgirls? Are they going to move to the discos? To other casas? To the church?
Colombia, Brasil and Thailand looking better everyday.
Next the geniuses in the DR government will shut down the 20 small hotels in Gazcue, putting the hotel workers, (ie cleaning ladies) out of work. Pure Genius. Tax revenues will go down, Leonel can always ask for more loans and more US tax payer dollars.
I always wondered how a third world country could have so many large, expensive, gas guzzling SUV vehicles roaming the streets. Thank the IMF, World Bank and the US tax payer for that.
The chicas who lived at the casas, will probably have to find new places to live, I guess some can return to live with an abusive chulo boyfriend.
Girls House has been open for at least 8 years, it took the DR government over 8 years to figure out that they were in violation of some law. Why not close all the casas? I am sure the Taliban would love to relocate to a nice warm and sunny spot to set up shop and can give the DR government lots of advice. Jao you know how they have those SUV's. Corruption and"you know what".
But when has the Dominicano done anything that makes sense? Common sense has never prevailed. Actually this fits the "dominican way" profile. Start the outside money rolling in then ask for more or do the switch out. All the while fucking with the under privileged locals. Dominican women are a non factor in this, its about the Dominicano.
And as far as the cruise ship theory. Some parts make sense. Word is the cruise lines have already negotiated slots for Cuba if and when it opens. Maybe SD feels they have to get more tourist friendly asap. But the infrastructure is not there now. What are they going to do? Hop a taxi to Boca Chica beach to hang out with me and BQ?
I've been to Atlantis (Bahamas) on a cruise ship and had a ball. We rented a car and went to some liquor factory. The people were engaged into their everyday lives, the vendors were respectful. My point is the tourist was to not be fucked with. The Dominican male will never surrender to this kind of authority. Sure we venture out in the DR, but we understand we can be "fucked with" whenever they want. The exception is the All Inclusives, where they have a "code of conduct".
The Dominicana has been tricking to support her kids and her beloved Dominicano for way to long. I wish they could have serious chid support enforcement, womens rights activists that organize women, and advisors that could motivate independence. Once the Dominicano risks losing his reliable cash cow, then things will star making sense in the DR.
Now let me cover my ass. This doesn't apply to all Domincanos. And to the "pro pimp advocates" remember, pimping aint easy.
My first trip to sdq and they shut down all the good spots LOL. Good thing I am taking my chica. I hope she can keep interested for a week. I bringing some good toys so maybe. This move may boost Boca Chica a bit. So I need a back up plan in sdq if my chica loses her luster. Aside from tyhe Gasgue where can a monger go in SDQ.
I remember years ago Sky High was Elegant Center, no neon signs just a discrete sign with black letters, El Cisne front was a beauty parlor, you have to go to the back area for the bar with chicas. Very discrete, but Lapsus has Neon signs and is still open. La Parada is also discrete and far from residential area. Was this a selective crackdown? Are girls going to move to the street corners and we are going to have pretty 3000 pesos streetgirls? Are they going to move to the discos? To other casas? To the church?
My first trip to sdq and they shut down all the good spots LOL. Good thing I am taking my chica. I hope she can keep interested for a week. I bringing some good toys so maybe. This move may boost Boca Chica a bit. So I need a back up plan in sdq if my chica loses her luster. Aside from tyhe Gasgue where can a monger go in SDQ.You never know what the DR government will do, so I can only guess what other venues may be open when you go to Santo Domingo. All the same venues that have previously been mentioned in prior posts may still be open, but who knows for sure.
BoricuaOnline
04-18-11, 03:26
My first trip to sdq and they shut down all the good spots LOL. Good thing I am taking my chica. I hope she can keep interested for a week. I bringing some good toys so maybe. This move may boost Boca Chica a bit. So I need a back up plan in sdq if my chica loses her luster. Aside from tyhe Gasgue where can a monger go in SDQ.Check out Australia in Villas Agricolas, GBP in 27 de Febrero, Playboy Palace in zona Colonial. Try Gran Paradise in Luz Maria, Lapsus and Baby Dolls in Gazcue, Casa Modelos, Casa Teresa, Casa Azul, Pink Pony, Venus de Milo, La Mansion, El Penthouse among other places.
I remember years ago Sky High was Elegant Center, no neon signs just a discrete sign with black letters, El Cisne front was a beauty parlor, you have to go to the back area for the bar with chicas. Very discrete, but Lapsus has Neon signs and is still open. La Parada is also discrete and far from residential area. Was this a selective crackdown? Are girls going to move to the street corners and we are going to have pretty 3000 pesos streetgirls? Are they going to move to the discos? To other casas? To the church?When I walk on Ave Pasteur from the Malecon at night, I have to walk in the street, very little lighting and the sidewalks are terrible with wires hanging down from the electrical cables above, at the beginning part of Pasteur.
Once I get near the casas I can walk walk on the sidewalk again, the owners of Sky High and Satin Dolls had the old sidewalks torn up and had new good concrete sidewalks installed. Good lighting in front of the casas, so you don't have to worry about falling in a three foot deep hole (like on avenida independencia) and breaking your leg. The front of the casas are clean and the sidewalks are swept and hosed. The DR government shuts down businesses that make infrastructure repairs and allows other property owners to have open, dangerous defects in front of their properties.
Check out Australia in Villas Agricolas, GBP in 27 de Febrero, Playboy Palace in zona Colonial. Try Gran Paradise in Luz Maria, Lapsus and Baby Dolls in Gazcue, Casa Modelos, Casa Teresa, Casa Azul, Pink Pony, Venus de Milo, La Mansion, El Penthouse among other places.What you said about the Pasteur strip in the late 90's / early 2000's is true. A few years later, drug sales and a general honky tonk atmosphere went over the line and they were shut down. They reopened then and they will reopen now. But the 24/7 party atmosphere won't be tolerated.
Colombia, Brasil and Thailand looking better everyday.
Next the geniuses in the DR government will shut down the 20 small hotels in Gazcue, putting the hotel workers, (ie cleaning ladies) out of work. Pure Genius. Tax revenues will go down, Leonel can always ask for more loans and more US tax payer dollars.
I always wondered how a third world country could have so many large, expensive, gas guzzling SUV vehicles roaming the streets. Thank the IMF, World Bank and the US tax payer for that.
The chicas who lived at the casas, will probably have to find new places to live, I guess some can return to live with an abusive chulo boyfriend.
Girls House has been open for at least 8 years, it took the DR government over 8 years to figure out that they were in violation of some law. Why not close all the casas? I am sure the Taliban would love to relocate to a nice warm and sunny spot to set up shop and can give the DR government lots of advice. Twenty small hotels? I hope the Jaguar is not one of them.
Twenty small hotels? I hope the Jaguar is not one of them.Jaguar from what I have read on the ISG, was one of the small hotels, that supposedly Diario Libre wrote was a brothel. I have Never seen any pro chicas just hanging out inside any of the small hotels in Gazcue, just waiting for clients (pros hang out inside the Marriott Jaragua and the Hotel Melia). If any small hotels in Santo Domingo had available chicas onsite, someone would have written about it on the ISG. Not one post on the ISG has ever said pros are available at some small hotel in Santo Domingo.
The big three hotels in Gazcue are not guest friendly, as such they are losing business to the small hotels. Here in the States and in other places where I have traveled, once I checked in and paid for my room, I could enter my room with whomever I wanted. Marriott Renaissance Jaragua, Melia Hotel and the Intercontinental V Centanario in the Gazcue section of Santo Domingo are not guest friendly. Less than 10 minutes from the Marriott Jaragua is the Marriott Courtyard Hotel, supposedly the Marriott Courtyard is guest friendly. The three big hotels in Gazcue are operating under a business model that most large hotels in the world don't adhere to.
Smoke and Mirrors. Two large hotels in Gazcue (Marriott Jaragua and Hotel Melia) have onsite pro chicas waiting for clients, these two hotels are not called brothels. 20 small hotels in Santo Domingo that Do Not have pro chicas on site waiting for clients, somehow get called brothels.
Alex Deuce
04-18-11, 21:08
As I said before, its going to get a hell of a lot worse the more dollars get put into Gazue to clean up that area around the political stations and developers invest. What do you think would happen if the DNC or RNC had a working girl house next to it? Prostitution is supposed to be low key and non-descript. Large flashing signs and overt displays causes political embarrassment.
O yeah, Monger Dollars mean shit to tourist dollars. Tourist spend 5 to our 1 and its taxable.
..............O yeah, Monger Dollars mean shit to tourist dollars. Tourist spend 5 to our 1 and its taxable.Oh so nice to read. Guess I ain't the only one who knows the real deal.
But the 24/7 party atmosphere won't be tolerated.Dominican Republic has a curfew on bars that serve alcohol (bars throughout the city have to close early). Casinos and bars attached to Casinos are allowed to stay open, after all the other bars are forced to close for the night. Gazcue has three casinos that serve alcohol till about 6am.
Lots of alcohol being served in the casinos in Gazcue (casino owners want Dominicans to get drunk and lose all their money, odds Always favor the casino). I have seen Dominican males fight and yell while they were playing poker in the Hotel Melia casino. According to your way of thinking, drunk, pissed off Domincans, who just lost all of their money in a casino in Gazcue, would never cause a nuisance after exiting the casinos in Gazcue.
I have been with foreign mongers in Santo Domingo who Do Not drink alcohol, these guys are well off, well paid professionals. They visit a casa, pick out a chica and go to their hotel. From your posts you seem to imply all drunk and disrespectful behavior is only from foreign mongers.
Why aren't you going after the casinos? Tell the casinos to stop trying to get people drunk. Have the casinos close at midnight. You don't want a 24/7 party atmosphere in Gazcue, in my mind, one way to get the result you want is to go after the only places that serve lots of alcohol till 6am, the casinos and the bars attached to the casinos.
Casinos are the ultimate cash cow for government officials, and appears to me, you and your other anti-prostitution friends will not try to shut down the biggest source of alcohol consumption in Gazcue (the casinos).
I have been in casas in Gazcue many times, where I was the only guy in the place. I have never seen any of the casas in Gazcue crowded with drunk mongers. The casas on Pasteur close at curfew time, around midnight. A monger who is spending around $70 to $100 for a chica, is generally not going to waste his time acting like a fool on the streets of Gazcue.
If a person wants absolute peace and quiet, that is why people move to the the campo. Thanks for informing the ISG members that the 24/7 party atmosphere will not be tolerated in Gazcue (I have never seen a 24/7 party atmosphere in the 20 or more trips I have made to Gazcue, with the curfew (emergency law, martial law) in effect).
Blame all the problems on foreign mongers (but your government has no hesitation taking US taxpayer dollars and no hesitation taking money from the IMF and World Bank).
......Well, let's get back to tips about grocery shopping, bars where you will pay 200 pesos for a 50 peso beer so you can relive your senior prom experience and be ignored by insecure groups middle class Dominican girls and of course let's get back to reminiscing about the used up street girls who can no longer work the lighted streets around Gazcue.Let's just do that!
Although Knowledge I truly believe this is a sarcastic post from you but the things you mentioned should always be talked about. Sure this is a P4P message board but mongers and putas need to eat. So what if a guy pays 200 pesos for a 50 pesos beer but he happens to enjoy the place where he is drinking the beer. Ahhh, my favorite them used up street girls. Anything wrong if a few guys enjoyed the time spent drinking beer, chit chatting, and maybe a few other things with them girls? To relive a prom experience I don't want to do that but maybe another guy had a great time and spending a few bucks to have that feeling again sends him home on a plane happy. Is anything wrong with that?
Knowledge what puzzles me is since you live in the DR what in the world are you doing on this message board? I would think if you had your shit together you surely would not be spending time with 500 pesos working girls in a parking lot.
as i said before, its going to get a hell of a lot worse the more dollars get put into gazue to clean up that area around the political stations and developers invest. what do you think would happen if the dnc or rnc had a working girl house next to it? prostitution is supposed to be low key and non-descript. large flashing signs and overt displays causes political embarrassment.
o yeah, monger dollars mean shit to tourist dollars. tourist spend 5 to our 1 and its taxable.when i go dr, because i am a monger, i don't have to pay the 26% in taxes? as a monger when i am back in the states, i don't encourage "normal" tourists to visit dr?
what does gazcue have to offer a "normal" tourist? horrible traffic on avenida independencia and on the malecon during rush (which lasts for 5 hours or more). many trucks and other motor vehicles spewing thick, black, cancer causing smoke. shitty manolos restaurant (as per knowledge and another isg member who lives in santo domingo). beat up, piece of shit gua guas, whose drivers don't give a shit about any other drivers while operating on avenida independencia in gazcue. huge holes in the sidewalks on avenida independencia. no beach. coppa is about the only bar in gazcue that a "normal" tourist might be interested in visiting and coppa is 50% pros. if i am a normal tourist why in the world would i go to gazcue for a vacation? (with young children, never)
for a normal tourist who wants to buy lots of prescription medicine, there are a ton of pharmacies in gazcue.
the casas that were recently shut down in gazcue are mostly if not entirely owned by foreigners. foreign owned property was the subject of a selective prosecution recently. if you want to sell the illusion that property rights are fully protected in dr, then i believe you are only looking out for yourself (you have posted many times that you are involved in real estate development in dr) , behooves you to tow the party line and convince people that their investment is safe in dr. i will never buy property in dr and i would advise anyone i know, to never buy property in dr.
i enjoy watching house hunters international on television. i watched one episode the other day of an amercian guy married to a latina from el salvador or nicaragua. the american husband owned a restaurant near some colonial zone and they looked at various homes near that busy colonial zone in nicaragua or el salvador. what struck me was that none of the windows had metal bars and inside two of the homes, were open courtyards, that were not covered with metal bars or metal security gates. i thought to myself, such a layout would never exist in dr, where just about any opening where a robber could enter a house, has metal bars or metal gates.
girls house has had the same neon sign outside for over 6 years. cabanas which are used for sex are lit up outside like las vegas. if the dr government doesn't want casas in certain neighborhoods, why don't the dr politicians change the law and rezone certain neighborhoods? if developers want to build on pasteur, let them lay out the money and buy out the casas (probably cheaper for the developers to bribe a dr politician who will use the police like a bunch of thugs to put pressure on the casa owners). there is no rule of law in dr. police activity is orchestrated on some ad hoc basis. if you want to convince some investors that there investment in real estate will be safe in a country that has no rule of law, good luck.
either casas are legal or illegal, either prostitution is legal or illegal, the people running dr want it every which they can, they want monger dollars, so they don't outlaw casas, but they will occasionally shut down foreign owned casas (isg member knowledge said a compromise was reached, which to me reads that the foreigners owning the casas had to pay a bribe or as is often referred to on this site a special gringo tax). they want monger dollars so they arrest some prostitutes in gazcue and other prostitutes move to a different neighborhood. the dr government wants monger dollars, so they arrest some prostitutes in the daytime in sosua, but allow others to walk around later in the night. where is the law governing any of this? seems to me law enforcement is not enforcing any laws, just ad hoc, do you want and you believe in such a loose system, foreign investors should fell their money is safe? if the dr decides to confirep001e property owned by a foreigner, what can that foreigner do to get his illegally confirep001ed property back? file a lawsuit in dr, hahaha, good luck with that.
sorry to rain on your income parade, you are a good guy, but you are trying to sell the idea that the dr is a safe long term investment destination (getting "normal" tourists to buy property in the dr) , i am not buying it. juan luis guerra and other famous and wealthy dominicans decide to live outside the dr, they must have a reason for not residing in dr.
Knowledge what puzzles me is since you live in the DR what in the world are you doing on this message board? I would think if you had your shit together you surely would not be spending time with 500 pesos working girls in a parking lot.Seems Knowledge saves his pesos for trips to Medellin, Colombia. Maybe he prefers lighter skin pro chicas. I wonder if he would like it, if some Colombian men who live in Medellin, berated and disparaged Mongers who came from Dominican Republic. Knowledge is very polite to Boricua Online, which is good, but maybe he is polite because Boricua Online is a fellow latino. I have seen an up-tick in the amount of African American Mongers in Gazcue, maybe this fact is what has gotten Knowledge so upset.
I wonder how Knowledge would feel if some ISG member who lives in Medellin, was trying to get the pay for play venues closed and the streetwalkers taken off the streets in Medellin, Colombia.
Dreams of an ISG member: Marry my daughter off to the rich son of a Santo Domingo politico, and she can live in a neighborhood like Piantini or Naco (not here in bad Gazcue). Sell my residence here in Gazcue for 4x what it is really worth. Hmm, how am I am going to do that? Step 1, get the streetwalkers taken off the streets in Gazcue (should increase property value by a few thousand pesos). Mission accomplished (screw those foreigners who come here looking for fun). Step 2, somehow get those casas closed (even though they are not a nuisance and their pretty outside lights remind me of Navidad-Christmas) , casas closed or curtailed should add a few more thousand pesos to the value of my residence. Step 3, find a normal tourist in Gazcue who wants to live here (this might be difficult, finding a normal tourist in Gazcue, who would actually want to pay me 4x what my residence is worth). After finding that gullible buyer for my residence, take all the money from the sale of the residence and all the money in the bank accounts and the money stuffed in the mattress and move to Medellin, Colombia. Leave the 50 year old Dominican wife in Santo Domingo, she can find herself a desperate gringo to marry on badoo. Com. Live out my days in Medellin, Colombia, light skin chicas galore, what heaven (no more having to look at those dark skin hoochies, I see everyday in Santo Domingo) (I just hope there is not some Colombian guy in Medellin who thinks like me and wants to get rid of prostitution in Medellin, so he can sell his residence at a higher price and possibly relocate to Santo Domingo to be with darker skinned chicas).
Jao you know how they have those SUV's. Corruption and"you know what".
But when has the Dominicano done anything that makes sense? Common sense has never prevailed. Actually this fits the "dominican way" profile. Start the outside money rolling in then ask for more or do the switch out. All the while fucking with the under privileged locals. Dominican women are a non factor in this, its about the Dominicano.
And as far as the cruise ship theory. Some parts make sense. Word is the cruise lines have already negotiated slots for Cuba if and when it opens. Maybe SD feels they have to get more tourist friendly asap. But the infrastructure is not there now. What are they going to do? Hop a taxi to Boca Chica beach to hang out with me and BQ?
I've been to Atlantis (Bahamas) on a cruise ship and had a ball. We rented a car and went to some liquor factory. The people were engaged into their everyday lives, the vendors were respectful. My point is the tourist was to not be fucked with. The Dominican male will never surrender to this kind of authority. Sure we venture out in the DR, but we understand we can be "fucked with" whenever they want. The exception is the All Inclusives, where they have a "code of conduct".
The Dominicana has been tricking to support her kids and her beloved Dominicano for way to long. I wish they could have serious chid support enforcement, womens rights activists that organize women, and advisors that could motivate independence. Once the Dominicano risks losing his reliable cash cow, then things will star making sense in the DR.
Now let me cover my ass. This doesn't apply to all Domincanos. And to the "pro pimp advocates" remember, pimping aint easy. What are you NUTS? The last thing this country needs in emulate Socialist / Communist nanny state America by interfering in the social relations between men and women.
Child Support Enforcement: Thats easy. Don't fuck guys who won't stick around and help. Unless you use a condom. Personal Responsibility.
Women's rights Orgs: You mean Feminazi Lesbians and ugly man-haters who will turn these lovely feminine Domincanas in to fat loud angry mannish harpies. The type we have all run away from in the States.
Advisors that could motive independence: Advisors can't motivate independence. Only the individual can do that. Maybe the family. Who by the way will pay for these "advisors". Let me guess. A tax on the people who are already independent and motivated. Just what DR needs. A new bureacratic department. Department of Advisors to Counsel Women on Independence.
Dominicanos will lose their cash cows when Dominicanas stop accepting being the cash cow. If that is in fact what they want. That will also be the day when Dominicanas become ugly and unfeminine, and when men from all over the world become gay and no longer want to have sex with attractive feminine women. (Never. Unless your socialistic / big government / Communist utopia nonsense prevails).
As I said before, its going to get a hell of a lot worse the more dollars get put into Gazue to clean up that area around the political stations and developers invest. What do you think would happen if the DNC or RNC had a working girl house next to it? Prostitution is supposed to be low key and non-descript. Large flashing signs and overt displays causes political embarrassment.
O yeah, Monger Dollars mean shit to tourist dollars. Tourist spend 5 to our 1 and its taxable. Much of the Tourist dollar is in fact the monger dollar. That ratio is not 5 to 1.
If all men . Both foreign and domestic stop going to the DR for sex. One way or the other, the effect on Tourism will be palpable. Entire tourism centers are based on this trade. Sosua and Boca Chica. Are monger driven economies. No matter what anyone tries to do or say, the greatest resource this country has is its women.
They are in demand all over the world. I understand the desire to "clean up", but the guys making decisions need to understand where and how the money actually gets circulated.
What are you NUTS? The last thing this country needs in emulate Socialist / Communist nanny state America by interfering in the social relations between men and women.
Child Support Enforcement: Thats easy. Don't fuck guys who won't stick around and help. Unless you use a condom. Personal Responsibility.
Women's rights Orgs: You mean Feminazi Lesbians and ugly man-haters who will turn these lovely feminine Domincanas in to fat loud angry mannish harpies. The type we have all run away from in the States.
Advisors that could motive independence: Advisors can't motivate independence. Only the individual can do that. Maybe the family. Who by the way will pay for these "advisors". Let me guess. A tax on the people who are already independent and motivated. Just what DR needs. A new bureacratic department. Department of Advisors to Counsel Women on Independence.
Dominicanos will lose their cash cows when Dominicanas stop accepting being the cash cow. If that is in fact what they want. That will also be the day when Dominicanas become ugly and unfeminine, and when men from all over the world become gay and no longer want to have sex with attractive feminine women. (Never. Unless your socialistic / big government / Communist utopia nonsense prevails). Your preaching a female takeover, I'm talking about a playing field thats not so one sided and dominating. But you make some interesting points.
Alex Deuce
04-19-11, 03:16
Much of the Tourist dollar is in fact the monger dollar. That ratio is not 5 to 1.
If all men. Both foreign and domestic stop going to the DR for sex. One way or the other, the effect on Tourism will be palpable. Entire tourism centers are based on this trade. Sosua and Boca Chica. Are monger driven economies. No matter what anyone tries to do or say, the greatest resource this country has is its women.
They are in demand all over the world. I understand the desire to "clean up", but the guys making decisions need to understand where and how the money actually gets circulated. So Incorrect its remarkable. I do urban planning and development for a living sir. Its $5 to $1 all day. In fact its actually around $7-1. You come with a hard on and normal tourist come with a wife and two kids. You pay 1500 untaxed DOP to a Puta. They pay 6000 taxed DOP for a BS tour around the old city. We stay at the Mystik for 65 dollars a night they stay at the Marriott for $119 plus an extra $119 room for the kids. Not even close to being in parity. As I have stated several times, monger dollars build a base of development then the tourist come to the city and push the mongers out. See, Jamaica, New Orleans, Rio, etc, etc, etc...
The guys making decisions know one thing, What makes money! Your talking about a hope and a prayer and an ideology based on what you want to happen not what is happening. Yes , you can monger all day long but your not going to flash it in the face of the people that are spending $5-$1 of your dollars and the investors that are spending millions to help develop an economy and municipality. See New York Sex Clean up and later Gentrification around time square. Mongering is an unwanted byproduct of Tourism that the country seeks to manage at this point. And all undeveloped countries best assets are literally their assets.
I have mentioned several times that this was coming and its going to get worse.
The 5 to 1 is BS. Mongers eat and buy the exact same thing that other tourist buy. Mongers will travel more often and are more faithfull to the DR. Our hotels and meals are the same. We give the local economy a nice pop with our activities. Cabs vendors and pharmacies love us. DRlaw is conservative bigot but is correct about some of his assertions. Capitalism has no chance of helping people in the DR. The little doc on DR prostitution was accurate. I know the DR men must be embarassed that their women are world famous for being great putas.
So Incorrect its remarkable. I do urban planning and development for a living sir. Its $5 to $1 all day. As I have stated several times, monger dollars build a base of development then the tourist come to the city and push the mongers out. See, Jamaica, New Orleans, Rio, etc, etc, etc.
The guys making decisions know one thing, What makes money! Your talking about a hope and a prayer and and ideology based on what you want to happen not what is happening. Yes, you can monger all day long but your not going to flash it in the face of the people that are spending $5-$1 of your dollars and the investors that are spending millions to help develop an economy and municipality. See New York Sex Clean up and later Gentrification around time square.
I have mentioned several times that this was coming and its going to get worse.
Alex Deuce
04-19-11, 03:41
The 5 to 1 is BS. Mongers eat and buy the exact same thing that other tourist buy. Mongers will travel more often and are more faithfull to the DR. Our hotels and meals are the same. We give the local economy a nice pop with our activities. Cabs vendors and pharmacies love us. DRlaw is conservative bigot but is correct about some of his assertions. Capitalism has no chance of helping people in the DR. The little doc on DR prostitution was accurate. I know the DR men must be embarassed that their women are world famous for being great putas.Not even close. Tourist buy for families. Mongers buy for themselves. You can argue Frequency but you cant argue dollars spent.
Capitalism is why the monger is getting pushed out. Its the second tenant rule. The first always gets fucked over and the second makes all the money. If and when the port deals starts, watch the Gentrification start to proceed in earnest.
Not even close. Tourist buy for families. Mongers buy for themselves. You can argue Frequency but you can't argue dollars spent.
Capitalism is why the monger is getting pushed out. Its the second tenant rule. The first always gets fucked over and the second makes all the money. If and when the port deals starts, watch the Gentrification start to proceed in earnest. I am sure there other dollars at stake and to take into consideration. But I am not buying a 5 to 1 as it would relate to the DR, they have a long way to go for that to occur if ever. And Maybe I am the exception to the rule but no way a family of 4 would spend anywhere.... I mean anywhere near what I have spent per year in the DR over the last 3 years. Flat out impossible! By the way you do realize the girls dont bury monger money in the backyard it is spent. Now if they want to make it a tourist location more power to them that attracts different money so the rich get richer..ok I see that.
BoricuaOnline
04-19-11, 04:27
Dominican Republic has a curfew on bars that serve alcohol (bars throughout the city have to close early).The rich and the wealthy do not have curfew. Major hotels can serve liquour 24/7, Plaza Uris bars and clubs, who cater to a more upscale audience closes by 4:00 to 5:00 am, last time I visited Venezuela Avenue, a month ago Some clubs closed at curfew, the nicest ones remained open.
BoricuaOnline
04-19-11, 04:31
I am a little confused about this family-monger spending ratios. If I eat a pussy I am familiar with, the money I pay the chica is family-tourist or monger money?
Your preaching a female takeover, I'm talking about a playing field thats not so one sided and dominating. But you make some interesting points.Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.
The takeover is not a female takeover, but one of big government. And it always starts in increments under the guise of "Helping".
-the children.
-the elderly.
-the women.
-the racial, gender, religious, ethnic. Group.
-big business, small business, the economy. Etc.
The playing field is not one sided or dominating. I find Dominican women to be remarkably independent, resourceful, and strong. I have yet to meet a shrinking violet among them. Regardless of age.
Male. Female relations and dynamics are sensitive and often connected in a complex way. Intervention of the sort you recommend would only create the disaster we see in America today.
Any problem affecting Dominican women is a problem of the general economy and culture which affect all Dominicans. The last thing I want to see- my nightmare actually. Is to see the DR Americanized. Although it is happening quickly due to technology, Lie-onel and his policies, and misguided do-gooders who inadvertently bring the same nonsense that has ruined America.
The 5 to 1 is BS. Mongers eat and buy the exact same thing that other tourist buy. Mongers will travel more often and are more faithfull to the DR. Our hotels and meals are the same. We give the local economy a nice pop with our activities. Cabs vendors and pharmacies love us. DRlaw is conservative bigot but is correct about some of his assertions. Capitalism has no chance of helping people in the DR. The little doc on DR prostitution was accurate. I know the DR men must be embarassed that their women are world famous for being great putas.I am no bigot, although I hold views which may be labled as conservative. To me its just common sense and observation.
Big government intervention into family and male / female affairs under the guise of "Helping", has destroyed family life, poisoned male female relations, and has made the prospect for peaceful domestic life nearly impossible in the US. Why do think there are so many mongers?
Look at the explosion of broken black families since these policies where introduced. And now affecting the rest of the population?
The resulting social dysfunction and its costs in social services, criminal justice, etc?
Angry unhappy indoctrinated feminazi women who are lonelier than ever and failing to marry and have children more than ever?
The massive bureacracy needed to manage all this supported by tax payer dollars. Money generated from productive activity to go to unproductive case workers, judges, attorneys, court officers?
Call this what you want, but it is not bigoted. It is the truth. The government has little or no place regulating family affairs nor male / female relations. Humanity did quite fine without it until about 40-50 years ago.
So Incorrect its remarkable. I do urban planning and development for a living sir. Its $5 to $1 all day. In fact its actually around $7-1. You come with a hard on and normal tourist come with a wife and two kids. You pay 1500 untaxed DOP to a Puta. They pay 6000 taxed DOP for a BS tour around the old city. We stay at the Mystik for 65 dollars a night they stay at the Marriott for $119 plus an extra $119 room for the kids. Not even close to being in parity. As I have stated several times, monger dollars build a base of development then the tourist come to the city and push the mongers out. See, Jamaica, New Orleans, Rio, etc, etc, etc.
The guys making decisions know one thing, What makes money! Your talking about a hope and a prayer and an ideology based on what you want to happen not what is happening. Yes, you can monger all day long but your not going to flash it in the face of the people that are spending $5-$1 of your dollars and the investors that are spending millions to help develop an economy and municipality. See New York Sex Clean up and later Gentrification around time square. Mongering is an unwanted byproduct of Tourism that the country seeks to manage at this point. And all undeveloped countries best assets are literally their assets.
I have mentioned several times that this was coming and its going to get worse. Ok then Mr. Urban Planner. I have a question.
1. How much time do mongers have before DR is "cleaned up"?
2. Where is the next place to go or will the mongering simple shift to another DR town and be more subdued?
eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.
the takeover is not a female takeover, but one of big government. and it always starts in increments under the guise of "helping".
-the children.
-the elderly.
-the women.
-the racial, gender, religious, ethnic. group.
-big business, small business, the economy. etc.
the playing field is not one sided or dominating. i find dominican women to be remarkably independent, resourceful, and strong. i have yet to meet a shrinking violet among them. regardless of age.
male. female relations and dynamics are sensitive and often connected in a complex way. intervention of the sort you recommend would only create the disaster we see in america today.
any problem affecting dominican women is a problem of the general economy and culture which affect all dominicans. the last thing i want to see- my nightmare actually. is to see the dr americanized. although it is happening quickly due to technology, lie-onel and his policies, and misguided do-gooders who inadvertently bring the same nonsense that has ruined america.lets return to the good old days, you seem to imply. no government regulation and no government oversight on anything. most laws are made usually after some horrible event. 3,000 americans had to die on 9/11, before the us government decided it needed to strengthen and regulate airport security. no mandatory education system (the rich will always have money to send their kids to schools) , let the poor 10 year old kids go work in coal mines. no social security for old people, just let them die of starvation or cold out in the street (natural selection, the weak have to die). no rich people sons and daughters fighting in wars, let the poor children go and fight and die, while the rich are back at home buying gold plated toilets and the soldiers get paid a pittance.
conservatives in the us have been trying hard and are continuing to try to hard to make the us into a third world country, similar to the way many countries are / were in latin america, where in the past maybe 5% of the population controlled 90% of the wealth. the rich had to live in gated communities with armed body guards, i would not want to live like that.
conservatives in the us love to bash any social service programs here in the states. you never hear a peep out any conservative about corporate welfare (many large corporations in the us pay little or no taxes).
arsenic and lead in drinking water, clean air to breath, not important to conservatives in the us. conservatives in the us bow at the temple of the corporation. last time i checked corporations do no produce offspring that go and fight in wars to defend a country, the sole purpose of a corporation is to make money, not be patriotic, not do what is right for the country, only make money (profits) , any way possible. conservatives in the us want no government regulation of any kind, on any matter. theodore roosevelt and dwight eisenhower were republicans who saw the dangers of corporations, these two men would be kicked to the gutter by todays republicans.
I did not know La Parada was open again. That's how bad this forum is getting. There is more accurate and up to date information in the Listin Diario daily newspaper. LOL.
Well, let's get back to tips about grocery shopping, bars where you will pay 200 pesos for a 50 peso beer so you can relive your senior prom experience and be ignored by insecure groups middle class Dominican girls and of course let's get back to reminiscing about the used up street girls who can no longer work the lighted streets around Gazcue.Do the middle class and rich Colombianas in Medellin, Colombia, do cartwheels for you?
Not even close. Tourist buy for families. Mongers buy for themselves. You can argue Frequency but you can't argue dollars spent.
Capitalism is why the monger is getting pushed out. Its the second tenant rule. The first always gets fucked over and the second makes all the money. If and when the port deals starts, watch the Gentrification start to proceed in earnest. I don't have any facts but at least for Canadians most families / couples will go to DR on all inclusive pkgs which will cost less than C$1000 per person for the whole week (more like C$700-C$800). I can't see how that would be 5 to 7 times what a monger spends if you factor in those who rent cars, etc.
SavePros321
04-19-11, 14:19
I am no bigot, although I hold views which may be labled as conservative. To me its just common sense and observation.
Big government intervention into family and male / female affairs under the guise of "Helping", has destroyed family life, poisoned male female relations, and has made the prospect for peaceful domestic life nearly impossible in the US. Why do think there are so many mongers?
Look at the explosion of broken black families since these policies where introduced. And now affecting the rest of the population?
The resulting social dysfunction and its costs in social services, criminal justice, etc?
Angry unhappy indoctrinated feminazi women who are lonelier than ever and failing to marry and have children more than ever?
The massive bureacracy needed to manage all this supported by tax payer dollars. Money generated from productive activity to go to unproductive case workers, judges, attorneys, court officers?
Call this what you want, but it is not bigoted. It is the truth. The government has little or no place regulating family affairs nor male / female relations. Humanity did quite fine without it until about 40-50 years ago. I believe you are referring to LBJ's "War on Poverty." And you are correct that his policies did more harm than good in the African American Community. Once women started getting Welfare, WIC, Section 8, etc, the black male saw no reason to stick around once the Gov / Tax payer started footing the bill for his kids (women aren't supposed to receive these "benefits" if a man is living with her).
I have no kids, but I have many years of experience being black and living in the AA community, LOL.
I find the conservative perspective bigoted and selfish. Capitalism worked in US because we had more resources then every body else. Our standard of living did not take off until socialistic policies were implemented in the 30s FDR.
The Great depression was capitalism falling flat on its ass. We have had a hybrid system every since.
Unions and civil rights proponents forced the capitalist to pony up. Prior to that capitalism produced and supported sweat shops, child labor and slavery. Conservatives seem not to know much about history. Without medicare, social security and unemployment our country would be a third world nation. Many western european coiuntries have higher standards of living then we do. I meant a cab driver from england the last time I was in a AI. He could afford a 2 week vacation in the DR. CAB driver here might get a weekend at a local beech. I was born and bred in the USA but I do not drink the Kool aid. DR would be poor no matter what form of goverment they had. Look at China now. They are rolling with their hybrid communist system. The second largest economy in the world and growing. I think their system would work much better in the DR. The DR is the other side of capitlism. The rich consum all the resources while the poor fight for the scraps. (History Major and poitical junky)
I am no bigot, although I hold views which may be labled as conservative. To me its just common sense and observation.
Big government intervention into family and male / female affairs under the guise of "Helping", has destroyed family life, poisoned male female relations, and has made the prospect for peaceful domestic life nearly impossible in the US. Why do think there are so many mongers?
Look at the explosion of broken black families since these policies where introduced. And now affecting the rest of the population?
The resulting social dysfunction and its costs in social services, criminal justice, etc?
Angry unhappy indoctrinated feminazi women who are lonelier than ever and failing to marry and have children more than ever?
The massive bureacracy needed to manage all this supported by tax payer dollars. Money generated from productive activity to go to unproductive case workers, judges, attorneys, court officers?
Call this what you want, but it is not bigoted. It is the truth. The government has little or no place regulating family affairs nor male / female relations. Humanity did quite fine without it until about 40-50 years ago.
SavePros321
04-19-11, 17:20
I find the conservative perspective bigoted and selfish. Capitalism worked in US because we had more resources then every body else. Our standard of living did not take off until socialistic policies were implemented in the 30s FDR.
The Great depression was capitalism falling flat on its ass. We have had a hybrid system every since.
Unions and civil rights proponents forced the capitalist to pony up. Prior to that capitalism produced and supported sweat shops, child labor and slavery. Conservatives seem not to know much about history. Without medicare, social security and unemployment our country would be a third world nation. Many western european coiuntries have higher standards of living then we do. I meant a cab driver from england the last time I was in a AI. He could afford a 2 week vacation in the DR. CAB driver here might get a weekend at a local beech. I was born and bred in the USA but I do not drink the Kool aid. DR would be poor no matter what form of goverment they had. Look at China now. They are rolling with their hybrid communist system. The second largest economy in the world and growing. I think their system would work much better in the DR. The DR is the other side of capitlism. The rich consum all the resources while the poor fight for the scraps. (History Major and poitical junky) Wow, you seriously believe everything you just said don't you? Please point out ANY country in where Socialism has worked. And here's a hint: Venezuela and Cuba, and ain't one of those countries. Just ask a Venezuelan and Cuban.
And if Unions are our saviors, then why is Texas gobbling up all of the Union States jobs? Oh, and we would like to welcome Caterpillar to Tejas and congratulate them on their Exodus from Chicago! Next up, Google. Especially since the Unions out there are pressuring Jerry Brown to raise taxes instead of cutting spending. It will be nice to witness California become Norther Mexico from the comfort of the Lone Star (Right to Work State) State!
FYI, FDR's "New Deal" was an absolute failure. The only reason America came out of the Great Depression was our entrance into WWII. But they don't teach that in school these days so no one faults you for not knowing this.
I am a little confused about this family-monger spending ratios. If I eat a pussy I am familiar with, the money I pay the chica is family-tourist or monger money?Boricua, I said this before. You are one funny motherfucker. I love the way your posts make me laugh. This is almost as good as the infamous ham sandwich series.
Venezuella and Cuba have long traditions of having lousy goverments the regular folk have always had terrible times. They are in my opinion as well off as they have been historically. A few rich folk did very well majority starved. Cuba pre castro was allied with the American mafia. Standard of living in western Europe socialist countries is better then in the good old US. They have healthcare and frew education way more vacation. In most The US is 17th in the world for standard of living. That companies prefer not to pay decent wages and benefits is nothing to be proud of or that CEO pay is going through the roof. Yes it cost more to pay decent wage. Texas alway stops list teenage pregs and low test score. This year my blue state MD was number onew in educ. Texas will soon be a Hispanic majority state. Smart red necks will hopefully move.
Wow, you seriously believe everything you just said don't you? Please point out ANY country in where Socialism has worked. And here's a hint: Venezuela and Cuba, and ain't one of those countries. Just ask a Venezuelan and Cuban.
And if Unions are our saviors, then why is Texas gobbling up all of the Union States jobs? Oh, and we would like to welcome Caterpillar to Tejas and congratulate them on their Exodus from Chicago! Next up, Google. Especially since the Unions out there are pressuring Jerry Brown to raise taxes instead of cutting spending. It will be nice to witness California become Norther Mexico from the comfort of the Lone Star (Right to Work State) State!
FYI, FDR's "New Deal" was an absolute failure. The only reason America came out of the Great Depression was our entrance into WWII. But they don't teach that in school these days so no one faults you for not knowing this.
Last time I read, Texas has a huge budget deficit. Your hero George Bush (from an elitist corrupt Eastern family) was no longer living on a ranch in Crawford, but in a community that once barred, forbid, people of color from buying property in that community.
Bust the Unions, pay all Civil Servants 50 cents an hour, no health benefits, no safe work rules, Mongering trips to the DR would dry up in a second. No unions in DR, police get paid practically nothing in DR, see how much fun you will have driving a nice new car in DR, when you are constantly pulled over and harassed by police looking for money.
After 8 years of Bush rule and tax cuts to the super wealthy, the US faced another Great Depression, where the US taxpayer had to bail out the financial sector. Some guys in the financial sector make a billion dollars per year and they are in the same tax bracket as their secretaries, they reap the benefits of their crazy, unregulated, financial schemes and the US taxpayer assumes all the risk and the burden of having to pay, when their unregulated schemes go belly up.
Pay soldiers 5 cents an hour, those financial guys making a billion dollars per year should not have to pay extra taxes, so that soldiers can get paid better.
Fox News, the talking heads on AM radio including the racist bigot Lush Limbaugh are propaganda machines for the super wealthy.
Wow, you seriously believe everything you just said don't you? Please point out ANY country in where Socialism has worked. And here's a hint: Venezuela and Cuba, and ain't one of those countries. Just ask a Venezuelan and Cuban.
And if Unions are our saviors, then why is Texas gobbling up all of the Union States jobs? Oh, and we would like to welcome Caterpillar to Tejas and congratulate them on their Exodus from Chicago! Next up, Google. Especially since the Unions out there are pressuring Jerry Brown to raise taxes instead of cutting spending. It will be nice to witness California become Norther Mexico from the comfort of the Lone Star (Right to Work State) State!
FYI, FDR's "New Deal" was an absolute failure. The only reason America came out of the Great Depression was our entrance into WWII. But they don't teach that in school these days so no one faults you for not knowing this.
Venezuella and Cuba have long traditions of having lousy goverments the regular folk have always had terrible times. They are in my opinion as well off as they have been historically. A few rich folk did very well majority starved. Cuba pre castro was allied with the American mafia. Standard of living in western Europe socialist countries is better then in the good old US. They have healthcare and frew education way more vacation. In most The US is 17th in the world for standard of living. That companies prefer not to pay decent wages and benefits is nothing to be proud of or that CEO pay is going through the roof. Yes it cost more to pay decent wage. Texas alway stops list teenage pregs and low test score. This year my blue state MD was number onew in educ. Texas will soon be a Hispanic majority state. Smart red necks will hopefully move.A recent Gallup Survey to find the the World's Happiest countries, the top three Happiest countries, are countries that could be described as Socialist; Denmark, Finland, Norway. Costa Rica, which provides Universal Health Care for all its people (something the rich United States can't seem to do) , Costa Rica was the fifth Happiest country ahead of the US. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/03/worlds-happiest-countries_n_633814.html#s109424&title=The_Netherlands_76
The Cuban people put Fidel in charge because of the corruption that existed in Cuba. Venezuela put Chavez in power because the majority of the Venezuelans were getting nothing from the existing government. Brazil has a socialist leaning government and Brazil is doing just fine.
The rich never want to give up their money, they will fight and do whatever they can to keep if for as long as possible (including selling the illusion to uneducated poor Americans, that rich folks deserve special protection and special rights, hey you too might win the powerball lottery and be rich one day).
Wow, you seriously believe everything you just said don't you? Please point out ANY country in where Socialism has worked. And here's a hint: Venezuela and Cuba, and ain't one of those countries. Just ask a Venezuelan and Cuban.
And if Unions are our saviors, then why is Texas gobbling up all of the Union States jobs? Oh, and we would like to welcome Caterpillar to Tejas and congratulate them on their Exodus from Chicago! Next up, Google. Especially since the Unions out there are pressuring Jerry Brown to raise taxes instead of cutting spending. It will be nice to witness California become Norther Mexico from the comfort of the Lone Star (Right to Work State) State!
FYI, FDR's "New Deal" was an absolute failure. The only reason America came out of the Great Depression was our entrance into WWII. But they don't teach that in school these days so no one faults you for not knowing this. I do not really want to get too political on a board like this but IMO if you are not really super rich why would anyone want to celebrate lower wages? I am not pro or anti union but I must admit that union really need to stay around because if not wages will go even lower. I live in a right to work state also, but I really do not see how it benefits you if you are not in the real high pay grade. Right to work states mean lower wages and that is a fact and if not some real big shot why is that great for most people?
Ok enough of that from me back to mongering (LOL).
Wow, you seriously believe everything you just said don't you? Please point out ANY country in where Socialism has worked. And here's a hint: Venezuela and Cuba, and ain't one of those countries. Just ask a Venezuelan and Cuban.
And if Unions are our saviors, then why is Texas gobbling up all of the Union States jobs? Oh, and we would like to welcome Caterpillar to Tejas and congratulate them on their Exodus from Chicago! Next up, Google. Especially since the Unions out there are pressuring Jerry Brown to raise taxes instead of cutting spending. It will be nice to witness California become Norther Mexico from the comfort of the Lone Star (Right to Work State) State!
FYI, FDR's "New Deal" was an absolute failure. The only reason America came out of the Great Depression was our entrance into WWII. But they don't teach that in school these days so no one faults you for not knowing this.10 Most Violent States In The USA: The Institute For Economics And Peace:
"Generally, Southern states tended to be the least safe, with the region scoring 3. 13 on the index, compared with the Northeast, calculated to be the safest region with a score of 1. 99."
Louisiana comes in at number 1, as the most violent state in the US, Texas at number 6. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/13/10-most-violent-states_n_848317.html#s263628&title=1_Louisiana
Beauty pageants and high school football seem to be the cultural preference of Texans. The great patriotic corporation Halliburton (Dick Cheney's company) moved its headquarters to Dubai.
Sewer systems, water treatment plants, highways and other public works that were built as a result of the FDR's New Deal provided no economic benefit to the US? Driving on shitty roads, will take longer, thus resulting in a decrease in productivity. Lead poisoning of children causes permanent learning deficits, have a population of slow, dumb people and see how well you can compete economically with countries that protect their citizens from pollutants that cause mental retardation. Herbert Hoover was the Republican president when the Great Wall Street Crash occurred in 1929, which was the beginning of the Great Depression, Hoover was President until 1932 and none of his Republican policies were successful in overcoming the Great Depression.
Last time I checked, it was guys from the Northeast who died fighting southerners, so slaves could have freedom. Bash the northeast all you want. I would love to see Texas secede from the United States. Texas as an independent country, see how minority rights would be protected. Texas the country would not invest in Science, their healthcare system would consist of praying with the Bible for health.
Venezuella and Cuba have long traditions of having lousy goverments the regular folk have always had terrible times. They are in my opinion as well off as they have been historically. A few rich folk did very well majority starved. Cuba pre castro was allied with the American mafia. Standard of living in western Europe socialist countries is better then in the good old US. They have healthcare and frew education way more vacation. In most The US is 17th in the world for standard of living. That companies prefer not to pay decent wages and benefits is nothing to be proud of or that CEO pay is going through the roof. Yes it cost more to pay decent wage. Texas alway stops list teenage pregs and low test score. This year my blue state MD was number onew in educ. Texas will soon be a Hispanic majority state. Smart red necks will hopefully move.You keep using the words "bigoted" and "selfish" while not addressing the point.
We were talking about government intervening in family and male / female relations in the DR.
Its been tried already in the US and is an unmitigated disaster. Marriage for a man is essentially signing up for legally imposed slavery if wifey becomes "unhappy". The Family is under full frontal assault by the state. All paid for by our tax dollars. What for, for some bureacrat with a bullshit degree in social work can tell me how to relate with my women and my kids and threaten me with imprisonment if I disagree?
DR is great because this hasn't happened yet. Hence, Even in their "poverty", family life in the DR is far superior to that in the US. The men are still MEN. I. E. Masculine. The women are still WOMEN. Feminine, and they adore each other. Not like in the US.
Keep government out of these arenas where it doesn't belong. Let's not bring the worst aspects of the US here.
SavePros321
04-19-11, 22:32
I do not really want to get too political on a board like this but IMO if you are not really super rich why would anyone want to celebrate lower wages? I am not pro or anti union but I must admit that union really need to stay around because if not wages will go even lower. I live in a right to work state also, but I really do not see how it benefits you if you are not in the real high pay grade. Right to work states mean lower wages and that is a fact and if not some real big shot why is that great for most people?
Ok enough of that from me back to mongering (LOL). You can't compare the wages in Texas to wages in NY or California because the cost of living is not the same. Just do a search on a the price of a 800 sq ft apartment in TX vs. one in NY. More specifically, Dallas vs. San Francisco or Houston vs. New York City.
I am not pro or anti union but I must admit that union really need to stay around because if not wages will go even lower. Well, Detroit feels the same way. Where has it gotten them?
"The Detroit Free Press reports attorney and occasional political candidate Geoffrey Fieger recommended legalizing marijuana and prostitution in the cash-strapped city during a taping of WWJ-TV's "Michigan Matters" program. The show airs at 11 a.m. Saturday."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-mi-fieger-pot-prosti,0,4019762.story
Boricua, I said this before. You are one funny motherfucker. I love the way your posts make me laugh. This is almost as good as the infamous ham sandwich series.I you eat the pussy of a chica that you are familiar with and spend money on her, that is Monger money which becomes Family. Tourist Money if you maintain contact and continue to subsidize her from time to time.
If you eat the pussy, give her money, and never deal with again or only intermitently, then that money is only Monger money.
The real question though is. If this is monger money you are using..why are you using it to eat pussy?
-on P4P. This is not recommended. Just my opinion. Unless you use a dental dam
SavePros321
04-19-11, 22:49
That companies prefer not to pay decent wages and benefits is nothing to be proud of or that CEO pay is going through the roof. Yes it cost more to pay decent wage. Texas alway stops list teenage pregs and low test score. This year my blue state MD was number onew in educ. Texas will soon be a Hispanic majority state. Smart red necks will hopefully move.Too bad Business is not a standard course taught in schools today. Businesses are not in business to provide wages and benefits. Businesses are in business to make a profit. The only sector where profits aren't needed to stay in business is the Federal Government. Why? Because they just take it from the rest of us tax payers to stay afloat. The Post Office is a perfect example of waste. All the employees are Union, but the entire system is running on a deficit in the billions. Do postal workers not make a decent wage? Would you argue that they should receive more money? You can't possibly tell me you like standing in line there every time you need one stamp. If the Post Office were a private company UPS (super-efficient) would take all of their business and run them out of business.
Let's pretend you owned a Lemonade stand and could only afford to pay one worker $12 dollars per hour. Now, what happens if your worker joins a Lemonade worker union and you now have to pay $17 an hour? Are you going to just fold up shop and tell your family you don't know where your next meal is coming from because you can't affords to stay in business? Or will you look for another area/state/country to open up shop in?
And sorry, I'm no Red Neck (and I know you weren't referring to me as one) , but no one here in Texas is talking about moving anytime soon, let alone to Maryland! In fact, I'm losing count of the amount of out-of-state plates I see on the highway daily, lol. And why would we have to go that far East when Louisiana is right next door (who we are in intense competition with over attracting Businesses)?
I don't have any facts but at least for Canadians most families / couples will go to DR on all inclusive pkgs which will cost less than C$1000 per person for the whole week (more like C$700-C$800). I can't see how that would be 5 to 7 times what a monger spends if you factor in those who rent cars, etc.Toronto you need to think TOTAL dollars spent, not per person, and you should realize tourists spend way, way more than mongers. Mongers don't do Ocean World, don't do the Outback Safari, don't go to the museums, don't buy those little trinkets, mongers usually aren't buying a 4 course meal for a party of four. Guys Dominicans in power aren't as dumb as some of you may think. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Maybe it is time for some guys to seriously start looking for other destinations as the glory days of the DR seem to be coming to an end.
Does anyone have Jackson's email address. If so would you email him and request him to open a Politics thread in the Dominican Republic Forum. Once open also ask Jackson to move all of this politics, economics, or whatever you want to call it stuff to the new thread.
Toronto you need to think TOTAL dollars spent, not per person, and you should realize tourists spend way, way more than mongers. Mongers don't do Ocean World, don't do the Outback Safari, don't go to the museums, don't buy those little trinkets, mongers usually aren't buying a 4 course meal for a party of four. Guys Dominicans in power aren't as dumb as some of you may think. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Maybe it is time for some guys to seriously start looking for other destinations as the glory days of the DR seem to be coming to an end. BQ Ribs nobody staying at an all-inclusive is doing any of that stuff either. Man I hate to disagree with some of the very valuable posters on the forum but the DR is no where near having tourist spending 5 or 7 times more then mongers. First anybody that has stayed at any of the all-inclusive resorts anywhere in the DR know they are no where near full, many times they are running at half capacity. Second the people staying there are cheap as shit, that's why the come to the DR and no one eats outside the resort when their food and booze is included. A matter of fact most are scared to death to go around the DR. Second I have never met an American tourist that has ever said they returning to the DR. American tourist can't get past what they perceive as poverty and high crime areas. Now none of this keeps the DR from running off the monger and who could blame them but tourist spending 7 times more then a monger is a long way off.
BoricuaOnline
04-20-11, 02:09
The real question though is. If this is monger money you are using. Why are you using it to eat pussy?
-on P4P. This is not recommended. Just my opinion. Unless you use a dental damShe is a bi girl with a regular office work and a part time doing promotions. She has a couple of girlfriends, she had an italian boyfriend a year ago, the guy lives in Italy. I do not pay her money for sex, instead I bring gifts, she loves bikinis so I bought her a black bikini, see picture below, and she was very happy with it. According to your analysis I believe I am spending tourist money on her.
Is that money spent wisely? I do not know. The bikini cost aproximately 1, 000 pesos. I had sex with her and I calculate that with the "in" and "out" of my penis in her I put 1, 000 inches inside her before coming so a 1 inch per peso ratio is not that bad.
BQ Ribs nobody staying at an all-inclusive is doing any of that stuff either. Man I hate to disagree with some of the very valuable posters on the forum but the DR is no where near having tourist spending 5 or 7 times more then mongers. First anybody that has stayed at any of the all-inclusive resorts anywhere in the DR know they are no where near full, many times they are running at half capacity. Second the people staying there are cheap as shit, that's why the come to the DR and no one eats outside the resort when their food and booze is included. A matter of fact most are scared to death to go around the DR. Second I have never met an American tourist that has ever said they returning to the DR. American tourist can't get past what they perceive as poverty and high crime areas. Now none of this keeps the DR from running off the monger and who could blame them but tourist spending 7 times more then a monger is a long way off.Doker can we easily say there are 100 times more tourists visiting rep dom than mongers? Yes? Do the math. Don't know about you Doker but guys who have only seen Sosua and PP know absolutely nothing about the true tourist monger ratio. Are you aware there are probably more eco tourists than mongers? Sosua is not the entire DR. In all of my many travels I have never seen a tour bus full of mongers. Why is it so difficult for you guys to understand Mongers Dollars Don't Mean Shit. BTW Doker can you post the next time a cruise ship full of mongers docks in SD? One more thing, are you aware not every tourist that comes to rep dom stays at an AI?
..............Is that money spent wisely? I do not know. The bikini cost aproximately 1, 000 pesos. I had sex with her and I calculate that with the "in" and "out" of my penis in her I put 1, 000 inches inside her before coming so a 1 inch per peso ratio is not that bad.LOL, your ins, outs, and ons are well worth the investment of a sexy black bikini.
Toronto you need to think TOTAL dollars spent, not per person, and you should realize tourists spend way, way more than mongers. Mongers don't do Ocean World, don't do the Outback Safari, don't go to the museums, don't buy those little trinkets, mongers usually aren't buying a 4 course meal for a party of four. Guys Dominicans in power aren't as dumb as some of you may think. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Maybe it is time for some guys to seriously start looking for other destinations as the glory days of the DR seem to be coming to an end. I agree completely, my point is simply that it should be an argument based on volume (there are literally planes full of these tourists headed that every single week of course) and not an argument based on per individual basis. Because I think you would agree that even a family of four is not likely to outspend a monger who rents a car, pays for a mobile phone, takes chicas out eating / drinking, etc by 5 to 7 times. But there is no doubt just the package tourists alone dwarfs total monger visitors when you look at total volume.
I agree completely, my point is simply that it should be an argument based on volume (there are literally planes full of these tourists headed that every single week of course) and not an argument based on per individual basis. Because I think you would agree that even a family of four is not likely to outspend a monger who rents a car, pays for a mobile phone, takes chicas out eating / drinking, etc by 5 to 7 times. But there is no doubt just the package tourists alone dwarfs total monger visitors when you look at total volume.Let's look at the whole picture. I mentioned in a previous post I believe a lot of guys think the monger buck counts because they have only seen Sosua, PP, and BB. If you venture out beyond the north coast it will become crystal clear mongers are few and far between when it comes to foreigners spending cashola in the DR. How much monger money is spent in Samana peninsula? Punta Cana? Jarabacoa? Santiago? Or even SD compared to the regular tourists? Since this is the SD thread I have yet to see a single monger spending cash for tickets to any event, concert, or tour in SD. Please before you try to come back and say your hard earned cash paying a puta is putting milk in her baby's stomach just save it. If you have been to any barrio or campo, which I doubt, you will see there are zillions of households surving without a puta bringing home some extra cash. That puta you are paying is spending most of her, I mean your, cash on buying stuff to look pretty for the next client.
Let's look at the whole picture. I mentioned in a previous post I believe a lot of guys think the monger buck counts because they have only seen Sosua, PP, and BB. If you venture out beyond the north coast it will become crystal clear mongers are few and far between when it comes to foreigners spending cashola in the DR. How much monger money is spent in Samana peninsula? Punta Cana? Jarabacoa? Santiago? Or even SD compared to the regular tourists? Since this is the SD thread I have yet to see a single monger spending cash for tickets to any event, concert, or tour in SD. Please before you try to come back and say your hard earned cash paying a puta is putting milk in her baby's stomach just save it. If you have been to any barrio or campo, which I doubt, you will see there are zillions of households surving without a puta bringing home some extra cash. That puta you are paying is spending most of her, I mean your, cash on buying stuff to look pretty for the next client.I believe I was agreeing with you.
I believe I was agreeing with you.Lets not forget the Western Union novios in the economics. And the female Mongers who send their Dominican boyfriends money. There is lots of Monger dollars floating into DR and the DR government knows it. It is why they have not outlawed prostitution and is why they have not shut down all the casas. Some mongers buy their Novias houses and apartments or set them in some small business. These types of things a "normal" tourist will never do.
BoricuaOnline
04-20-11, 04:22
According to the World Economic Forum, travel and tourism industry in DR represents near 7% of the country's gross domestic product and the impact of the travel and tourism industry in other industries represents a total economic of 21% of gross domestic product. One of every five dollars spent in DR comes from tourism and industries that benefit from tourism.
On the other hand, the International Labour Organization reported its calculations that 2-14% of GDP of several countries (Dominican Republic included) derives from sex tourism. The report does not mention the percentage in DR so it can be as low as 2% and as high as 14. That means that the normal tourism versus monger business ratio can be as high as 10. 5 normal to 1 monger or as low as 1. 5 normal to 1 monger. I am more inclined to accept a ratio in between of these two I mentioned. According to ILO the Dominican Republic has gained a reputation of being a major destination for international sex tourism.
We ISG members represent just a small percentage of total mongers. I live in Puerto Rico which is next to the DR and in my country there are thousands of married / single guys of all ages that have a part time chica in DR. Most on them for sure do not know ISG. They travel there because they know they can get sex. Most of them do not visit Gazcue or the brothels across the city; they know their chicas from a friend of a friend of a friend. Just after I graduated from college and began to work a coworker gave me the phone # of the sister of a chica he met in San Jose de las Matas, a town near Santiago. He was traveling to that town to have sex with the chica in exchange of money or goods. In Puerto Rico, there is a saying that if a guy is going to travel to Santo Domingo a puta is waiting him outside the plane. As recently as last year I have learned about six of my uncles with 'girlfriends' in the DR.
Dollars spent in Gazcue clubs, I agree with BQ that represents nothing, because it just represents a fraction of the multimillion DR sex industry. As a local once told me when I listed him the clubs I know across the city, for every place I know there is a dozen I have yet to discover. In conclusion, normal tourism and sex tourism are both an important source of income in the DR with normal tourism taking a major portion of the pie.
Too bad Business is not a standard course taught in schools today. Businesses are not in business to provide wages and benefits. Businesses are in business to make a profit. The only sector where profits aren't needed to stay in business is the Federal Government. Why? Because they just take it from the rest of us tax payers to stay afloat. The Post Office is a perfect example of waste. All the employees are Union, but the entire system is running on a deficit in the billions. Do postal workers not make a decent wage? Would you argue that they should receive more money? You can't possibly tell me you like standing in line there every time you need one stamp. If the Post Office were a private company UPS (super-efficient) would take all of their business and run them out of business.
Let's pretend you owned a Lemonade stand and could only afford to pay one worker $12 dollars per hour. Now, what happens if your worker joins a Lemonade worker union and you now have to pay $17 an hour? Are you going to just fold up shop and tell your family you don't know where your next meal is coming from because you can't affords to stay in business? Or will you look for another area / state / country to open up shop in?
And sorry, I'm no Red Neck (and I know you weren't referring to me as one) , but no one here in Texas is talking about moving anytime soon, let alone to Maryland! In fact, I'm losing count of the amount of out-of-state plates I see on the highway daily, LOL. And why would we have to go that far East when Louisiana is right next door (who we are in intense competition with over attracting Businesses)? How many guys on this site do you think are Union members? My guess is over 50. If not for their Union memberships and the salaries the Unions get for their members, do you think many ISG members would be able to travel to DR?
Most large corporations in the US pay little or no taxes (corporate welfare) and recently the Roberts court (Bush appointees) have given Corporations the same rights as a living, breathing, tax paying, fight for their country, US human being. A man made invention (corporation) now has the same rights as a real life, living, breathing human being in the US.
I believe I was agreeing with you.My bad, seems no one never does.
5 monger pesos for 1 tourist peso at the Jaguar and on Pasteur Street. LOL. Some of the members here see the whole country as a one square mile zone surrounding the Jaragua. Lfmao.
According to the World Economic Forum, travel and tourism industry in DR represents near 7% of the country's gross domestic product and the impact of the travel and tourism industry in other industries represents a total economic of 21% of gross domestic product. One of every five dollars spent in DR comes from tourism and industries that benefit from tourism.
On the other hand, the International Labour Organization reported its calculations that 2-14% of GDP of several countries (Dominican Republic included) derives from sex tourism. The report does not mention the percentage in DR so it can be as low as 2% and as high as 14. That means that the normal tourism versus monger business ratio can be as high as 10. 5 normal to 1 monger or as low as 1. 5 normal to 1 monger. I am more inclined to accept a ratio in between of these two I mentioned. According to ILO the Dominican Republic has gained a reputation of being a major destination for international sex tourism.
We ISG members represent just a small percentage of total mongers. I live in Puerto Rico which is next to the DR and in my country there are thousands of married / single guys of all ages that have a part time chica in DR. Most on them for sure do not know ISG. They travel there because they know they can get sex. Most of them do not visit Gazcue or the brothels across the city; they know their chicas from a friend of a friend of a friend. Just after I graduated from college and began to work a coworker gave me the phone # of the sister of a chica he met in San Jose de las Matas, a town near Santiago. He was traveling to that town to have sex with the chica in exchange of money or goods. In Puerto Rico, there is a saying that if a guy is going to travel to Santo Domingo a puta is waiting him outside the plane. As recently as last year I have learned about six of my uncles with 'girlfriends' in the DR.
Dollars spent in Gazcue clubs, I agree with BQ that represents nothing, because it just represents a fraction of the multimillion DR sex industry. As a local once told me when I listed him the clubs I know across the city, for every place I know there is a dozen I have yet to discover. In conclusion, normal tourism and sex tourism are both an important source of income in the DR with normal tourism taking a major portion of the pie.
Jaguar from what I have read on the ISG, was one of the small hotels, that supposedly Diario Libre wrote was a brothel. I have Never seen any pro chicas just hanging out inside any of the small hotels in Gazcue, just waiting for clients (pros hang out inside the Marriott Jaragua and the Hotel Melia). If any small hotels in Santo Domingo had available chicas onsite, someone would have written about it on the ISG. Not one post on the ISG has ever said pros are available at some small hotel in Santo Domingo.
The big three hotels in Gazcue are not guest friendly, as such they are losing business to the small hotels. Here in the States and in other places where I have traveled, once I checked in and paid for my room, I could enter my room with whomever I wanted. Marriott Renaissance Jaragua, Melia Hotel and the Intercontinental V Centanario in the Gazcue section of Santo Domingo are not guest friendly. Less than 10 minutes from the Marriott Jaragua is the Marriott Courtyard Hotel, supposedly the Marriott Courtyard is guest friendly. The three big hotels in Gazcue are operating under a business model that most large hotels in the world don't adhere to.
Smoke and Mirrors. Two large hotels in Gazcue (Marriott Jaragua and Hotel Melia) have onsite pro chicas waiting for clients, these two hotels are not called brothels. 20 small hotels in Santo Domingo that Do Not have pro chicas on site waiting for clients, somehow get called brothels. Thanks for your reply, I'll have to call Rafael.
According to the World Economic Forum, travel and tourism industry in DR represents near 7% of the country's gross domestic product and the impact of the travel and tourism industry in other industries represents a total economic of 21% of gross domestic product. One of every five dollars spent in DR comes from tourism and industries that benefit from tourism.
On the other hand, the International Labour Organization reported its calculations that 2-14% of GDP of several countries (Dominican Republic included) derives from sex tourism. The report does not mention the percentage in DR so it can be as low as 2% and as high as 14. That means that the normal tourism versus monger business ratio can be as high as 10. 5 normal to 1 monger or as low as 1. 5 normal to 1 monger. I am more inclined to accept a ratio in between of these two I mentioned. According to ILO the Dominican Republic has gained a reputation of being a major destination for international sex tourism.
We ISG members represent just a small percentage of total mongers. I live in Puerto Rico which is next to the DR and in my country there are thousands of married / single guys of all ages that have a part time chica in DR. Most on them for sure do not know ISG. They travel there because they know they can get sex. Most of them do not visit Gazcue or the brothels across the city; they know their chicas from a friend of a friend of a friend. Just after I graduated from college and began to work a coworker gave me the phone # of the sister of a chica he met in San Jose de las Matas, a town near Santiago. He was traveling to that town to have sex with the chica in exchange of money or goods. In Puerto Rico, there is a saying that if a guy is going to travel to Santo Domingo a puta is waiting him outside the plane. As recently as last year I have learned about six of my uncles with 'girlfriends' in the DR.
Dollars spent in Gazcue clubs, I agree with BQ that represents nothing, because it just represents a fraction of the multimillion DR sex industry. As a local once told me when I listed him the clubs I know across the city, for every place I know there is a dozen I have yet to discover. In conclusion, normal tourism and sex tourism are both an important source of income in the DR with normal tourism taking a major portion of the pie. Thanks for the posts I have a cousin his father is PR and his mother Dominicana. He tells me the exact same thing and often brings my cousins from Borinquen to enjoy the " country "
Please direct people to correctly categorize political issues, I and other users of this board (we have been pm back and forth) are fed up.
In preparation for a trip I logged in to see what the situation is in the DR, what I am getting is a half asses political science course.
Please direct people to correctly categorize political issues, I and other users of this board (we have been pm back and forth) are fed up.
In preparation for a trip I logged in to see what the situation is in the DR, what I am getting is a half asses political science course.Good possibility casas will be closed and all the putas will be in jail. You can thank people like ISG member Knowledge for trying to destroy the Monger scene in Santo Domingo. Any good information posted here will be used by guys like Knowledge, whose sole interest is in destroying the pay for play scene in Santo Domingo.
In the past, Gazcue with its guest friendly hotels was recommended as a monger destination, what happened after those recommendations were made, the DR government decided to sweep the streets of streetwalkers in Gazcue and then some people in DR decided to call the guest friendly hotels Brothels.
My recommendation if you are here to get Monger specific information for Santo Domingo, is don't go to Santo Domingo.
Half ass political science course, Ignorance is bliss.
5 monger pesos for 1 tourist peso at the Jaguar and on Pasteur Street. LOL. Some of the members here see the whole country as a one square mile zone surrounding the Jaragua. Lfmao.Continue being rude and obnoxious, Benedict Arnold.
Please direct people to correctly categorize political issues, I and other users of this board (we have been pm back and forth) are fed up.
In preparation for a trip I logged in to see what the situation is in the DR, what I am getting is a half asses political science course.There is a thread called Politics in Dominican Republic, if Jackson wants to move the political posts there, that is his choice. I personally got tired of one ISG member who for a long time in his posts has bashed Obama and bashed the Northeast of the United States and I let it go many times and did not respond (I had enough of reading his misguided, untruthful posts, where I had to respond).
The ISG is not a political site per se. Prostitution and Politics will always be intertwined (politicians decide if prostitutes will be allowed in a certain area or not) , as such I don't think you can remove all Political conversations from a Monger site.
The politicians control the police in Santo Domingo. Streetwalkers were removed from the streets of Gazcue by the police. About 4 casas were recently closed in Gazcue, by the police, at the direction of politicians in Santo Domingo.
Planning a Monger trip to Santo Domingo, how can a guy know what to expect, unless he understands a little bit about the politics of Santo Domingo.
You call the Political posts here recently in this thread half ass, I would love to see you do better. I don't recall you ever posting one photo in the Santo Domingo thread and I can't remember when was the last time you posted a trip report in this thread.
bars where you will pay 200 pesos for a 50 peso beer so you can relive your senior prom experience and be ignored by insecure groups middle class Dominican girls and of course let's get back to reminiscing about the used up street girls who can no longer work the lighted streets around Gazcue.Not quite sure I understand this post. I could go the supermarket here in New York and I buy cheap one dollar beer, to drink in my home. Is that the same experience as drinking beer in a bar in a foreign country, surrounded by pretty chicas?
Are you suggesting that there are bars in Santo Domingo where a Monger can buy a 200 peso beer for 50 pesos, where the Monger will be in a comfortable environment, with lots eye candy in the place? If so, could you post the names and addresses of those bars. I am sure other ISG members would find this info Useful. In the Medellin thread you tell other ISG members to post Useful info.
Doker can we easily say there are 100 times more tourists visiting rep dom than mongers? Yes? Do the math. Don't know about you Doker but guys who have only seen Sosua and PP know absolutely nothing about the true tourist monger ratio. Are you aware there are probably more eco tourists than mongers? Sosua is not the entire DR. In all of my many travels I have never seen a tour bus full of mongers. Why is it so difficult for you guys to understand Mongers Dollars Don't Mean Shit. BTW Doker can you post the next time a cruise ship full of mongers docks in SD? One more thing, are you aware not every tourist that comes to rep dom stays at an AI?Well Bq Ribs you were responding to Toronto where he was talking about AI so thats why I made a point about it. I think your over stating the spending of tourists, thats it, I just don't think its 5 to 7 times more. I happened to go on a 6 hour tour a month and a half ago with tourists of SD. We had 10 people. Do you know how much we each paid. 40 US each. Thats it! The guide took us around to all his shops he gets kick backs from and those tourists were buying cheap junk that added up to nothing! The average person probably spent 45 bucks. Hardly a 5 to 7 time money maker.
Cruise ships come in for hours, once again people eat on the boats, they arent spending 100's of dollars on food and booze. Yes there are many places in the world that make it on cruise ship ports where tourist spend on junk and tours but once again its not 5 to 7 and its not the DR as we know it now.
I don't understand your point about the girls. Why dismiss the money a girl has that goes into the clothing shop and buys 50 bucks of goods but mention tourists getting off cruise ships who will buy 5 dollar trinkets.
If the DR wants change and runs out the monger and they are successful sure the monger dollar may mean nothing someday.
Well Bq Ribs you were responding to Toronto where he was talking about AI so thats why I made a point about it. I think your over stating the spending of tourists, thats it, I just don't think its 5 to 7 times more................You are probably right. There has been so much off the wall non P4P talk lately I am confused. Bottom line overall totat spending in the DR is easily 5 to 7 times more money spent by tourist than mongers. Keep in mind that is country wide. Even at that it seems conservative when you consider the amount of tourists compared to mongers.
I wish someone would take a trip soon so we can get back to talking about chicas. It will be three weeks for my next trip but I sure hope someone goes sooner, especially a newbie.
...............I don't understand your point about the girls. Why dismiss the money a girl has that goes into the clothing shop and buys 50 bucks of goods but mention tourists getting off cruise ships who will buy 5 dollar trinkets..
You need to think volume and get away from that Sosua, North Coast mentality. No harm meant. At one time I had the Sosua mindset until I found out Sosua (north coast) is far, far, far from the typical DR.
Someone please write a trip report or somebody post some new pics. At this point I will be glad to see a picture of blue water, white sand, and a few palm trees. Guys your dollars don't mean shit!
You are probably right. There has been so much off the wall non P4P talk lately I am confused. Bottom line overall totat spending in the DR is easily 5 to 7 times more money spent by tourist than mongers. Keep in mind that is country wide. Even at that it seems conservatie when you consider the amount of tourists compared to mongers.
I wish someone would take a trip soon so we can get back to talking about chicas. It will be three weeks for my next trip but I sure hope someone goes sooner, especially a newbie. Hey I am with you. I could handle a good report and some pics!
Hey, looking for some help (I have a friend that has already bought his flight to santo domingo) and then I told him about sosua. Trying to get him to sousa with out wasting one of his vacation days. His flight gets in around 9 pm. I looked the last bus leaves around 7pm. Has anyone taken a taxi or got to sousa a different way (late at night) thanks in advance on any info you can share.
ChiliMike
Well Bq Ribs you were responding to Toronto where he was talking about AI so thats why I made a point about it. I think your over stating the spending of tourists, thats it, I just don't think its 5 to 7 times more. I happened to go on a 6 hour tour a month and a half ago with tourists of SD. We had 10 people. Do you know how much we each paid. 40 US each. Thats it! The guide took us around to all his shops he gets kick backs from and those tourists were buying cheap junk that added up to nothing! The average person probably spent 45 bucks. Hardly a 5 to 7 time money maker.
Cruise ships come in for hours, once again people eat on the boats, they arent spending 100's of dollars on food and booze. Yes there are many places in the world that make it on cruise ship ports where tourist spend on junk and tours but once again its not 5 to 7 and its not the DR as we know it now.
I don't understand your point about the girls. Why dismiss the money a girl has that goes into the clothing shop and buys 50 bucks of goods but mention tourists getting off cruise ships who will buy 5 dollar trinkets.
If the DR wants change and runs out the monger and they are successful sure the monger dollar may mean nothing someday. I will post a response in the Politics in Dominican Republic thread.
Hey, looking for some help (I have a friend that has already bought his flight to santo domingo) and then I told him about sosua. Trying to get him to sousa with out wasting one of his vacation days. His flight gets in around 9 pm. I looked the last bus leaves around 7pm. Has anyone taken a taxi or got to sousa a different way (late at night) thanks in advance on any info you can share.
ChiliMikeIt may take a taxi 3-4 hours to drive to Sosua from the SDQ airport at 9pm (if it rains it will take longer) , to arrive into Sosua at midnight or 1am or later. Cost of the taxi probably more than $100US. There are hotels in Santo Domingo for $40 per night, a shared transfer from the sdq airport into Santo Domingo, around $16US, there might be pro chicas in Santo Domingo for 1000 pesos. The next morning early, the guy can take Caribe Express or Metro bus to Sosua from Santo Domingo for around $10US.
Manizales911
04-21-11, 12:30
Hey, looking for some help (I have a friend that has already bought his flight to santo domingo) and then I told him about sosua. Trying to get him to sousa with out wasting one of his vacation days. His flight gets in around 9 pm. I looked the last bus leaves around 7pm. Has anyone taken a taxi or got to sousa a different way (late at night) thanks in advance on any info you can share.
ChiliMikeI have done it by taxi twice but it is too damn expensive, about $175-225 USD. He is better off staying the night in SDQ and hopping the bus to Sosua in the morning. If he lands at 9 in SDQ it will be 1 am At least by the time he arrives and by the time he settles in at a hotel it will be 2 a. M. And probably tired as fuck all. He can get laid in SDQ the one night he will be there, tell him to read up on the SDQ forum here and he'll be all set.
Alex Deuce
04-21-11, 20:30
Majority of the Casas Hearings are Today and Monday. According to my partner, who is down there, The Mysik-13 might loose the ability to serve alcohol and the remaining Casas are going to need a whole lotta money to reopen. It all should be sorted out sometime late Monday. Focus of the hearings concern permits. I did a lot a research when I was down there and I never recall seeing a fee schedule for working girl House Permit. Brothels are patently illegal and there have been statements to the authorities that there was sex on the premises at 305 and sky house. How at Sky House I have no Idea.
Just reporting back. And yes, I ignored some Asinine Questions. I don't argue shit I know. FACTUALLY!
thanks.
who will out bribe who. the dr lawyers will make money, some politicians will make money. in 305 i never saw anyone have sex onsite there and never heard of anyone being offered sex onsite there. the policia nacional would stop and visit inside of 305 every night i was there.
maybe some developer wants to put up a tower in that empty lot across the street from the mystik. 305 is owned by a foreigner and sky high and satin dolls are owned by foreigners. every time i was in 305 the mongers exited 305 with the chicas, no sex onsite there.
other casas with rooms on site for sex (and there are several) owned by dominicans are not being harassed by the dr government.
the spaniard del tiempo who built the luxury torre atiemar building in santo domingo, was arrested in spain in connection with a shipment of cocaine from santo domingo to spain, he is awaiting trial and has not been found guilty. the dominican government confirep001ed the building from his company and sold it for 34 million dollars.
from dominican watchdog: "real estate boom or money laundering in dominican republic. drug and mafia money, arturo del tiempo, torre atiemar and 1200kg of cocaine sent from the dominican republic to spain is probably just the top of the iceberg behind the recent years construction boom in santo domingo. what's more interesting is that president lionel fernandez has stated that this project was a model for foreign investments in his country. the spanish authorities suspect a powerful international network of large drug shipments is behind the case and which launders money by investing in the construction of residences and apartments. the photo to the left is president leonel fernandez who invited arturo del tiempo and his son to the president palace"
http://dominicanwatchdog.org/dominican_news/page-real_estate_boom_or_money_laundering_in_dominican_republic%3f.
dr doesn't need mongers spending honest money, just more drug money, that has to be laundered by building expensive buildings in the dr.
majority of the casas hearings are today and monday. according to my partner, who is down there, the mysik-13 might loose the ability to serve alcohol and the remaining casas are going to need a whole lotta money to reopen. it all should be sorted out sometime late monday. focus of the hearings concern permits. i did a lot a research when i was down there and i never recall seeing a fee schedule for working girl house permit. brothels are patently illegal and there have been statements to the authorities that there was sex on the premises at 305 and sky house. how at sky house i have no idea.
just reporting back. and yes, i ignored some asinine questions. i don't argue shit i know. factually!
Majority of the Casas Hearings are Today and Monday. According to my partner, who is down there, The Mysik-13 might loose the ability to serve alcohol and the remaining Casas are going to need a whole lotta money to reopen. It all should be sorted out sometime late Monday. Focus of the hearings concern permits. I did a lot a research when I was down there and I never recall seeing a fee schedule for working girl House Permit. Brothels are patently illegal and there have been statements to the authorities that there was sex on the premises at 305 and sky house. How at Sky House I have no Idea.
Just reporting back. And yes, I ignored some Asinine Questions. I don't argue shit I know. FACTUALLY! Thanks for the update. Any clue why Lapus was not shut down? Was it the residents protest that actually got the casas shut down? Just my two pesos but I really don't see any hotels getting shut down, what's your thought?
I have done it by taxi twice but it is too damn expensive, about $175-225 USD. He is better off staying the night in SDQ and hopping the bus to Sosua in the morning. If he lands at 9 in SDQ it will be 1 am At least by the time he arrives and by the time he settles in at a hotel it will be 2 a. M. And probably tired as fuck all. He can get laid in SDQ the one night he will be there, tell him to read up on the SDQ forum here and he'll be all set.Good advice and the taxi prices seem right on. Heck it must be close to $100 just to go from Santiago to Sosua.
Alex Deuce
04-21-11, 23:27
I have no idea whats going to happen. I just know what my buddy tells me. I am suppose to be down there right now for 3 weeks. My buddy told me to hold up until Monday as the Mystik-13, where I am staying, might be closed down but I found its just the bar. I knew allowing Putas to troll the Bar was going to end badly for Marcos & Jose. My apartment is not scheduled to be ready until Monday. I planed to screw myself out the first couple of days so I can get down to business the remaining 19 days to explore. Either way I'm still going down Casa open or not. I have enough friends and other pursuits to keep busy. I put a call into the owner of 305 but I have yet to get a call back. Not to mention my Iphone is chalked full of every Puta I banged, liked or approached me in the Casino during my last 3 week stay. All but 3 numbers work. I knew just taking pics of pretty gurls and saving their number like a 17 year old college freshman on first day of school would come in handy. All the Putas I called are desperate for DOP. Should be an interesting couple of days.
Jao, I'm back at the Malecon center. I got a lower rate than last time.
..............I put a call into the owner of 305 but I have yet to get a call back.........Best way to get accurate information. Another poster is friends with owners of several casas and I am surpirsed he didn't make a call yet.
There is a differance between providing info on "what to expect" and mental masterbation.
Take the time to check out my post (most recently Cambodia) , I provide plenty of "hard facts," not a psudo-social comentary.
QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1147258]There is a thread called Politics in Dominican Republic, if Jackson wants to move the political posts there, that is his choice. I personally got tired of one ISG member who for a long time in his posts has bashed Obama and bashed the Northeast of the United States and I let it go many times and did not respond (I had enough of reading his misguided, untruthful posts, where I had to respond).
The ISG is not a political site per se. Prostitution and Politics will always be intertwined (politicians decide if prostitutes will be allowed in a certain area or not) , as such I don't think you can remove all Political conversations from a Monger site.
The politicians control the police in Santo Domingo. Streetwalkers were removed from the streets of Gazcue by the police. About 4 casas were recently closed in Gazcue, by the police, at the direction of politicians in Santo Domingo.
Planning a Monger trip to Santo Domingo, how can a guy know what to expect, unless he understands a little bit about the politics of Santo Domingo.
You call the Political posts here recently in this thread half ass, I would love to see you do better. I don't recall you ever posting one photo in the Santo Domingo thread and I can't remember when was the last time you posted a trip report in this thread. [/QUOTE]
Hey, looking for some help (I have a friend that has already bought his flight to santo domingo) and then I told him about sosua. Trying to get him to sousa with out wasting one of his vacation days. His flight gets in around 9 pm. I looked the last bus leaves around 7pm. Has anyone taken a taxi or got to sousa a different way (late at night) thanks in advance on any info you can share.
ChiliMikeI was in the same boat not long ago. I had a cab that would do it for 225. I chose the bus because I meet a girl and I was glad I did. There are some major climbs and you don't want a cab that is unprepared breaking down somewhere out.
Will someone help me out with what to expect, please? I'll be making my first trip about the first couple weeks of June. I guess I'll start with the south coast. Boca, Chica, San Cristobal, Bani. Then I suppose bus up north. Is it a get hammered all day, every day type of thing, like in Thailand, you think? Or maby just like a couple hours shower in the afternoon? That's going to suck if I'm trying to find my way around a new place and its pouring all day.
Thanks in advance for your info.
Will someone help me out with what to expect, please? I'll be making my first trip about the first couple weeks of June. I guess I'll start with the south coast. Boca, Chica, San Cristobal, Bani. Then I suppose bus up north. Is it a get hammered all day, every day type of thing, like in Thailand, you think? Or maby just like a couple hours shower in the afternoon? That's going to suck if I'm trying to find my way around a new place and its pouring all day.
Thanks in advance for your info.90% of the time the weather is hot and sunny. Recently there was a bit of drought along the south coast. Yesterday I was told it was very hot on the south coast. Sometimes in the early evening it may rain for less than an hour.
If a storm develops and stays over parts of the island it is possible to have rain everyday, overall you would to have really bad luck for that to happen exactly the days you are there. Only one trip out of 30 did it it rain everyday for 5 days, a trip to Sosoua and even then, the weather was warm and the rain was not 24 hours.
Even if it rains you can still have fun. Driving a rental car during a heavy rain is not recommended.
Alex Deuce
04-23-11, 03:29
They have thrown the book at the Casas and Hotels. Some may not be back at all. The assertions range from no permit, bribery and not paying taxes.
They have thrown the book at the Casas and Hotels. Some may not be back at all. The assertions range from no permit, bribery and not paying taxes.Thanks for the info! Any other information on the hotels and is there a list of which hotels are targeted?
Alex Deuce
04-24-11, 18:13
Thanks for the info! Any other information on the hotels and is there a list of which hotels are targeted?All are targeted to stop acting as Brothels. There is going to be some heavy bribery going on in the next few days...
All are targeted to stop acting as Brothels. There is going to be some heavy bribery going on in the next few days...I think with some guys, at least with me, is the use of the word brothel. I take it brothel in the DR simply describes a "chica friendly" hotel?
The original report mentioned 20 hotels and that sure seems a lot. I know some are more obviously chica friendly than others. I guess we just have to wait it out and see.
Thanks again for your reports as they are much more valuable than hearsay or useless opinions.
I think with some guys, at least with me, is the use of the word brothel. I take it brothel in the DR simply describes a "chica friendly" hotel?
The original report mentioned 20 hotels and that sure seems a lot. I know some are more obviously chica friendly than others. I guess we just have to wait it out and see.
Thanks again for your reports as they are much more valuable than hearsay or useless opinions. I spoke with the owner of the Jaguar yesterday he told me the casas de putas are targeted not legal hotels such as his and for instance the Riazor. Perhaps the newspaper report was incorrect or misread.
I spoke with the owner of the Jaguar yesterday he told me the casas de putas are targeted not legal hotels such as his and for instance the Riazor. Perhaps the newspaper report was incorrect or misread.OK, I went back and read some of the previous posts. The 20 hotels getting shut down was just one person's opionion which distorted my vision of what was truly going on. The actual printed newpaper article only mentions the five main casas in Gascue. So all this talk about regular chica friendly hotels getting shut down was BS. As a matter of fact Enricos you responded to the post where someone mentioned the next move would be to shut down Jaguar. That is just another reason why hearsay and useless opinions need not be posted.
Alex Deuce
04-25-11, 13:02
OK, I went back and read some of the previous posts. The 20 hotels getting shut down was just one person's opionion which distorted my vision of what was truly going on. The actual printed newpaper article only mentions the five main casas in Gascue. So all this talk about regular chica friendly hotels getting shut down was BS. As a matter of fact Enricos you responded to the post where someone mentioned the next move would be to shut down Jaguar. That is just another reason why hearsay and useless opinions need not be posted.No, it really just the Mystik Hotel thats in trouble for allowing girls in the bar and then renting rooms (acting as brothel). The Casas are occupancy,liquor permit and basically loudly flashing that they are a working girl house. Its sorting itself out in the next 4 hours.
No, it really just the Mystik Hotel thats in trouble for allowing girls in the bar and then renting rooms (acting as brothel). The Casas are occupancy,liquor permit and basically loudly flashing that they are a working girl house. Its sorting itself out in the next 4 hours.A smaller number will re-open and they will operate more quietly. Greed usually leads the owners to "pump up the volume" and that's when the trouble starts for them. By the way, Casa de Modelos has closed an opened sevveral times over the years. There is a certain level that the community tolerates. Once the business owners cross that line, they get "corrected." It's an unnecessary version of cat and mouse.
For those of you who have been through this before I would pose this question.
Do many of the working chica's wind up going to other spots? I am particularly interested in Boca, I wanted to go there in a month or two.
Thank you.
A smaller number will re-open and they will operate more quietly. Greed usually leads the owners to "pump up the volume" and that's when the trouble starts for them. By the way, Casa de Modelos has closed an opened sevveral times over the years. There is a certain level that the community tolerates. Once the business owners cross that line, they get "corrected." It's an unnecessary version of cat and mouse.
A smaller number will re-open and they will operate more quietly. Greed usually leads the owners to "pump up the volume" and that's when the trouble starts for them. By the way, Casa de Modelos has closed an opened sevveral times over the years. There is a certain level that the community tolerates. Once the business owners cross that line, they get "corrected." It's an unnecessary version of cat and mouse.As long as it is a correction we may be fine. I used to live in Detroit in the 90's and the strip clubs were heaven in the Detroit / Windsor area. Then came a new mayor and the correction, for a long time it was "no touch" policy. Now its back as strong as ever. The economy had to do a lot with it. You can get FS with BBBJ for $100 or less in quite a few of them. I was amazed during my last trip.
Anyways, I found SD to be pretty lame compared to Sosua, though I have been to SD only once. Maybe Santiago is the only place that survives this downturn untouched.
OK, I went back and read some of the previous posts. The 20 hotels getting shut down was just one person's opionion which distorted my vision of what was truly going on. The actual printed newpaper article only mentions the five main casas in Gascue. So all this talk about regular chica friendly hotels getting shut down was BS. As a matter of fact Enricos you responded to the post where someone mentioned the next move would be to shut down Jaguar. That is just another reason why hearsay and useless opinions need not be posted.I guess we can close the book on this issue regarding the Jaguar. I'm sure over time there will be others.
darklurker
04-26-11, 15:19
Hopefully these are not completely stupid newbie questions:
1) Already made trip reservation at the end of last month to come. Will be on a place Thursday night after work and down in Santo Domingo through Monday evening. I did my research and picked the Napalitano Hotel from recommendations here and elsewhere. Doesn't seem that hotel was mentioned as having an issue? (if someone knows it was shut down please mention it.)
2) Little panicked that Pastuer and 305 are shut. It seems from comments that GPB and Australia are still up and running. Has the new political situation affected freelancer pickup in discos? I understand the Napalitano has a disco. Is that or La Parada still a viable place to meet ladies?
3) I play Poker, in the Jaragua or any of the surrounding casinos does anyone know what stakes are the cash games, are there tournaments? Any poker info is greatly appreciated since it appears they may be the nuts that get the most play this weekend.
By the way, one of the hotels described as a brothel in the Diario Libre piece is the Jaguar, the Mystik is another.
Twenty small hotels? I hope the Jaguar is not one of them.
Jaguar from what I have read on the ISG, was one of the small hotels, that supposedly Diario Libre wrote was a brothel.
Thanks for the info! Any other information on the hotels and is there a list of which hotels are targeted?
All are targeted to stop acting as Brothels. There is going to be some heavy bribery going on in the next few days...
I guess we can close the book on this issue regarding the Jaguar. I'm sure over time there will be others.Brothels are illegal in Dom Rep.
Jaguar has gotten some bad reviews, regarding a worker at night who is not very nice to some clients of that hotel. I have never stayed at the Jaguar and I doubt very much I would ever stay there.
Hopefully these are not completely stupid newbie questions:
1) Already made trip reservation at the end of last month to come. Will be on a place Thursday night after work and down in Santo Domingo through Monday evening. I did my research and picked the Napalitano Hotel from recommendations here and elsewhere. Doesn't seem that hotel was mentioned as having an issue? (if someone knows it was shut down please mention it.)
2) Little panicked that Pastuer and 305 are shut. It seems from comments that GPB and Australia are still up and running. Has the new political situation affected freelancer pickup in discos? I understand the Napalitano has a disco. Is that or La Parada still a viable place to meet ladies?
3) I play Poker, in the Jaragua or any of the surrounding casinos does anyone know what stakes are the cash games, are there tournaments? Any poker info is greatly appreciated since it appears they may be the nuts that get the most play this weekend. Prostitution is legal in DR.
I would recommend staying away from Casa Australia for a variety of reasons.
Napolitano a few years ago did a rehab, so it should be nicer now. Napolitano has a pool deck, on about the second floor that faces the sea. The disco inside the Napolitano is called Mint. Medium size place, on some nights it gets crowded late, other nights no one there.
From the Napolitano you will be closer to the baby dolls and foxys. One monger I know took two chicas out of baby dolls in the span of 5 hours and paid 3500 pesos each for a total of 7000 pesos.
D'Luis Parrilada on the Malecon is a sea front restaurant near Foxys. I ate there one time and had drinks there one time. In my opinion the food was good at D'Luis Parrilada, cost for dinner for one person about $15US, not super cheap, but not expensive.
Lots of Asians gamble at the Jaragua. Melia has a busy casino, mostly Dominicans gambling at the Melia. Napolitano has a small casino that seems to be busy. For betting on American Sports you can go to 4 star, which is supposedly near the Hilton, I have never found 4 star international sports betting place, from what I have read it is a nice place with lots of flat screen televisions showing sports.
The police have the freelance chicas spooked, but in my recent trip last February, I saw numerous freelance chicas, in Pacos (now called Grands) el conde in zona colonial, freelance chicas walking on el conde, also some streetwalkers on Independencia near the Hilton and on Independencia between Pasteur and Park Independence, also on the Malecon near Princess Cabana and on Ave Jimenez Moya (a / k/a avenida churchill) near its intersection with the Malecon.
GBP is always recommended. Playboy Palace in zona colonial has three rooms with air conditioning units, I was told playboy palace (it is a small place) is open from from 2pm to 2am.
Try to find an honest taxi driver who will not try to overcharge you. If you venture to some casa in a taxi, when you are ready to exit the casa, you can ask a chica or a worker in the casa to call a taxi for you. Boricua Online got good rates by calling Apolo taxi; http://www.apolotaxi.com/ApoloTaxi/Bienvenidos.html, Santo Domingo, Central
(809) 537-0000, Oficina (809) 537-1245.
Taxi price 200 pesos or less. Foreigners are usually always overcharged by taxi drivers. I have been with Dominican chicas and I have seen them shop around for the best price taxi, they just walk away when a taxi driver says a high price and they walk around until they find a taxi driver who will take them where they want to go for a good price.
Casa Theresa recently got a good review. Casa Azul is near casa theresa. Pink Pony is further away. Club MC and the Penthouse are just north of Avenida 27 de Febrero.
There are ISG members who know Dominican guys who are like guides and have gotten good reviews.
The casas on Pasteur may or may not be open, Girls House was not recommended, so if it is not open, no great loss. Sky High the owners are supposedly Cuban and they spent a lot of money fixing up the casa where Sky House used to be. Nice bar with laser lights and sofas in Sky High and a back yard bar where you can sit and smoke cigarettes. 305 is around the corner from Satin Dolls and Sky High on Independencia.
Manolos behind the Jaragua Hotel and Casino is convenient for fast food at 5am. On the Malecon past the Jaragua Hotel and Casino (heading west) is Adrians Tropical restaurant which is open late, maybe 24/7.
Usually pros out front of the Jaragua Hotel and Casino, Hotel Melia casino and in Coppa bar in the Hotel Melia.
Having a local cell phone may save you on roaming charges. An unlocked GSM cell phone that takes sim cards, can usually be used in the DR after buying a sim card and minutes from Claro, Orange or Viva. On the second floor of the airport in Santo Domingo is a Claro cell phone shop that sells sim cards with minutes included for about 500 pesos (appx. $13US). I have been told Orange sim cards can be purchased for around 200 pesos with no included minutes. One time I bought a cheap Claro cell phone with minutes for 480 pesos. You will need your passport when purchasing a sim card or cell phone from a claro, orange or viva shop. You add minutes by purchasing calling cards or you can add minutes online using a bank or credit card with a company like ezetop. I believe pressing *22 and send with a claro cell will tell you how many minutes you have. If you buy a sim card or cell phone at the airport, check to make sure it works before leaving the airport. Claro, Orange and Viva have numerous shops throughout the city.
...............Jaguar has gotten some bad reviews, regarding a worker at night who is not very nice to some clients of that hotel. I have never stayed at the Jaguar and I doubt very much I would ever stay there.Jaguar received ONE bad report of someone having a problem bringing in a chica at night. To the best of my knowledge that is the only bad report I remember reading about Jaguar. Why not just comment on hotels you have actually stayed at? I can just about guarantee you there are 99 excellent reports on Jaguar for every one negative comment.
At one time Jaguar was my hotel of choice and I never, ever had a problem bringing in chica(s), morning, noon, or night. Rafael, the English speaking Dominican owner, is one of the finest gentleman you could ever meet in rep dom. Only reason I switched hotels was because I found another with a location that suited me a little better.
I've stayed at the Jaguar 3 times in the past 10 months I will stay there again in a couple of months it is my hotel of choice to me the workers are very nice people.
Jaguar received ONE bad report of someone having a problem bringing in a chica at night. To the best of my knowledge that is the only bad report I remember reading about Jaguar. Why not just comment on hotels you have actually stayed at? I can just about guarantee you there are 99 excellent reports on Jaguar for every one negative comment.
At one time Jaguar was my hotel of choice and I never, ever had a problem bringing in chica (s) , morning, noon, or night. Rafael, the English speaking Dominican owner, is one of the finest gentleman you could ever meet in rep dom. Only reason I switched hotels was because I found another with a location that suited me a little better. Within the last three months on this thread, there are at least two negative posts of the Jaguar. Last February I was with a guy who was given a hard time when he entered the Jaguar with a chica from Baby Dolls (that guy I know has stayed in another location in Gazcue on one subsequent trip). I will find those negative posts that were posted here in the last three months, I know at least one other ISG member who posted that he would he would probably not stay at the Jaguar again.
Jaguar is a $40 per night guest friendly hotel on a side street about two blocks off of Independencia. You get what you pay for.
I don't recall you writing any posts defending small guest friendly hotels, when some people were calling guest friendly hotels in Gazcue brothels. (I wrote a post trying to defend the small guest friendly hotels in Gazcue). Now, I try not to read your posts. You Monger your way. I am not a Monger who generally only wants 1000 peso streetwalkers on Avenida Independencia between the hotel riazor and hotel la casona dorada. When I want streetwalkers I don't mind traveling 10 minutes or less to find them on the Malecon, or near the Hilton Hotel or on Avenida Independencia between Hotel la casona dorada and park independencia, or in Pacos or on el conde in zona colonial. I do not boycott 90% of the casas in Santo Domingo. Casas have chicas, you have said yourself that you have not been in 90% of the casas in Santo Domingo. Most mongers I know will at least enter a particular casa at least once, if they like the place they will return, others may not return to a particular casa.
Why don't you share the name of the hotel that you switched to?
Jaguar received ONE bad report of someone having a problem bringing in a chica at night. To the best of my knowledge that is the only bad report I remember reading about Jaguar. Why not just comment on hotels you have actually stayed at? I can just about guarantee you there are 99 excellent reports on Jaguar for every one negative comment.
At one time Jaguar was my hotel of choice and I never, ever had a problem bringing in chica (s) , morning, noon, or night. Rafael, the English speaking Dominican owner, is one of the finest gentleman you could ever meet in rep dom. Only reason I switched hotels was because I found another with a location that suited me a little better.
The Jaguar Hotel I stayed at was ok, but like they say you get what you pay for.
As for the Jaguar, the owner Rapheal was great, it was just the night guy who was a dick. I would definitely explore other options on my next trip.
Anyway he was a dick the rest of the trip. Furthermore, it might cost his boss pesos in the future. I know I will consider other options not to deal with that again.
Send Raphael an email and tell him the problem. Are you talking about the tall lanky darker guy? Because he was a dick with me too.Abr Mainline's post is from about March 2010, Flaco Loco and Victoryrecord's posts are from about two months ago. One Monger I know, who is not an ISG member was given a hard time entering the Jaguar with a light skin Santiago chica he took out of the Baby Dolls.
Not exactly sure how you define the word "ONE".
Flaco Loco
04-26-11, 23:25
Jaguar received ONE bad report of someone having a problem bringing in a chica at night. To the best of my knowledge that is the only bad report I remember reading about Jaguar. Why not just comment on hotels you have actually stayed at? I can just about guarantee you there are 99 excellent reports on Jaguar for every one negative comment.
At one time Jaguar was my hotel of choice and I never, ever had a problem bringing in chica (s) , morning, noon, or night. Rafael, the English speaking Dominican owner, is one of the finest gentleman you could ever meet in rep dom. Only reason I switched hotels was because I found another with a location that suited me a little better. I was the one negative post. I have to say that my experience at the Jaguar was very positive except for the light skinned Dominican who worked the door at night. He gave me problems not just once, but every time I tried to bring in a chica. I just ignored him and went upstairs with my chica anyway. It was more of an unnecessary annoyance. Rafeal was a gentleman and very accommodating. Don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch. If they are up and running I see no reason not to stay there. Enjoy and please shed some light on the current situation.
Jaguar received ONE bad report of someone having a problem bringing in a chica at night. To the best of my knowledge that is the only bad report I remember reading about Jaguar. Why not just comment on hotels you have actually stayed at? I can just about guarantee you there are 99 excellent reports on Jaguar for every one negative comment.
At one time Jaguar was my hotel of choice and I never, ever had a problem bringing in chica (s) , morning, noon, or night. Rafael, the English speaking Dominican owner, is one of the finest gentleman you could ever meet in rep dom. Only reason I switched hotels was because I found another with a location that suited me a little better.From the ISG FAQ: "If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. There are several ways to do this:
Through your User Control Panel: User CP, Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List. Then, type their name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'."
I do not recall reading 99 (or 198) excellent reports of the Jaguar Hotel on the ISG by different ISG members, from the time I have been reading the ISG forums (99 x 2 negative posts =198 excellent reports). If you want me to believe what you wrote, please refer me or other ISG members, to the 198 excellent reports of the Jaguar (written by 198 different ISG members) , thank you. By the way, recent reports should hold greater value than reports that may have been written five years ago (and to be fair if you find more negative posts of the Jaguar, please add 99 to your list of excellent reports).
I have been inside the Jaguar hotel and seen one room there and I saw enough to make a determination, that I did not like the place and would not stay there. In one of your prior posts you said you visited the Hotel Maison Gatreux, you basically said you walked in and walked out, that you did not like the vibe of the place. I have stayed numerous times at the Maison Gatreux and I don't recall reading two or more non-positive reviews of Maison Gatreux on the ISG. I can remember reading an excellent review of the Maison Gatreux by another ISG member and a positive post from Bad Bear, who runs a place in Haiti. After you wrote your negative post about the Maison Gatreux Hotel, I did not tell you to post only about places you have stayed at. Everyone on this site is entitled to their opinions. If you don't like what certain other members post, add them to your ignore list (A post from an ignored member may still appear, when their post is quoted by another member).
I was the one negative post. I have to say that my experience at the Jaguar was very positive except for the light skinned Dominican who worked the door at night. He gave me problems not just once, but every time I tried to bring in a chica. I just ignored him and went upstairs with my chica anyway. It was more of an unnecessary annoyance. Rafeal was a gentleman and very accommodating. Don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch. If they are up and running I see no reason not to stay there. Enjoy and please shed some light on the current situation.
I've stayed at the Jaguar 3 times in the past 10 months I will stay there again in a couple of months it is my hotel of choice to me the workers are very nice people.I am in total agreement with you guys. Jaguar, as of lately, has taken an undeserving lashing and it needs to stop. Some guys just don't know when to say enough is enough. As of yet no one has posted any link where Jaguar or any chica friendly hotel (except Mystik) was cited in a newpaper article.
I started staying at Jaguar in November 2007 and have stayed there at least a dozen or so times without ever a problem. All of this hog wash about guys coming to SD and possibly the chica friendly hotels being closed in NOT helping the situation at all. To the best of my knowledge ALL chica friendly hotels (except Mystik) are operating as normal. If you are NOT on the ground and can prove otherwise please save your useless comments.
Let's get back to business. I will be in SD in three weeks and will report back what I see with my own two eyes.
I am in total agreement with you guys. Jaguar, as of lately, has taken an undeserving lashing and it needs to stop. Some guys just don't know when to say enough is enough. As of yet no one has posted any link where Jaguar or any chica friendly hotel (except Mystik) was cited in a newpaper article.
I started staying at Jaguar in November 2007 and have stayed there at least a dozen or so times without ever a problem. All of this hog wash about guys coming to SD and possibly the chica friendly hotels being closed in NOT helping the situation at all. To the best of my knowledge ALL chica friendly hotels (except Mystik) are operating as normal. If you are NOT on the ground and can prove otherwise please save your useless comments.
Let's get back to business. I will be in SD in three weeks and will report back what I see with my own two eyes. Can you tell ISG members what hotel you have used most often in your most recent trips to Santo Domingo and why you switched from the Jaguar?
Since some posts you claim are useless, could you please post useful information about some casas in Santo Domingo; 305, satin dolls, club mc, penthouse, casa de modelos, pink pony, cats, the mansion, paco club, gran paradise massage, casa azul, casa theresa, ejecutivo?
Could you please post useful information on where to find streetwalkers in Santo Domingo?
Could you please post useful information on bars or discos where pro chicas might be found (I. E. Coppa disco or mint)?
BoricuaOnline
04-27-11, 01:46
Hopefully these are not completely stupid newbie questions:
1) Already made trip reservation at the end of last month to come. Will be on a place Thursday night after work and down in Santo Domingo through Monday evening. I did my research and picked the Napalitano Hotel from recommendations here and elsewhere. Doesn't seem that hotel was mentioned as having an issue? (if someone knows it was shut down please mention it.)
2) Little panicked that Pastuer and 305 are shut. It seems from comments that GPB and Australia are still up and running. Has the new political situation affected freelancer pickup in discos? I understand the Napalitano has a disco. Is that or La Parada still a viable place to meet ladies?
3) I play Poker, in the Jaragua or any of the surrounding casinos does anyone know what stakes are the cash games, are there tournaments? Any poker info is greatly appreciated since it appears they may be the nuts that get the most play this weekend. 1) Napolitano is guest friendly, has a casino, bar, restaurant, disco and pool. No problem bringing more than a chica with proper I. The. I stayed there a couple of years. The only thing I did not like at that time was that a / see do not cool very well.
2) La Parada bar is open again, it was closed during a month because of tax evasion. I met one of the waitress there last year, we spent a couple of night together. Lapsus, BaBydolls, and over a dozen of casas across the city are open.
Hopefully these are not completely stupid newbie questions:
1) Already made trip reservation at the end of last month to come. Will be on a place Thursday night after work and down in Santo Domingo through Monday evening. I did my research and picked the Napalitano Hotel from recommendations here and elsewhere. Doesn't seem that hotel was mentioned as having an issue? (if someone knows it was shut down please mention it.)
2) Little panicked that Pastuer and 305 are shut. It seems from comments that GPB and Australia are still up and running. Has the new political situation affected freelancer pickup in discos? I understand the Napalitano has a disco. Is that or La Parada still a viable place to meet ladies?
3) I play Poker, in the Jaragua or any of the surrounding casinos does anyone know what stakes are the cash games, are there tournaments? Any poker info is greatly appreciated since it appears they may be the nuts that get the most play this weekend. The best Poker room is in the Hilton. The games are wild but if you are a good player you can make some serious cash. The Melia also has poker, but it starts very late and is usually 1 table. I have not played there. The Hilton also gets a lot of MLB players in the off season. They are real donkeys. Ezy $$$
Have fun.
Brothels are illegal in Dom Rep.
Jaguar has gotten some bad reviews, regarding a worker at night who is not very nice to some clients of that hotel. I have never stayed at the Jaguar and I doubt very much I would ever stay there. Jao,
So I guess the Piano bar on upper Pastuer is gone. I found that hidden gem and it closed down after I left the DR. I was there the week before it closed and 3 couples came in for a drink togrther. All ages. I was sitting at the bar chatting with Walesea, the other girls hid in the back room until they left. (about 20 minutes). The couples left and the girls laid low. I left a half hour later and they told me not to talk to anyone outside if I was stopped. No one stopped me to talk. Then I read a few weeks later they were closed. To bad, I spent 3 nights there and there was no pressure and they had 3 girls that were 8's and a 9. Oh well! memories
Jao,
So I guess the Piano bar on upper Pastuer is gone. I found that hidden gem and it closed down after I left the DR. I was there the week before it closed and 3 couples came in for a drink togrther. All ages. I was sitting at the bar chatting with Walesea and the other girls hid in the back room until they left. (about 20 minutes. The couples left and they laid low. I left a half hour later and they told me not to talk to anyone outside if I was stopped. No one stopped me to talk. Then I read a few weeks later they were closed. To bad, I spent 3 nights there.I went looking for that place a few times and never found it. Last February, I went looking for it in the early evening and all I found was a small restaurant. That small restaurant near where Piano Bar was located, gets good reviews from Koki. I believe it is owned by a French guy who is married to a Dominicana. Dominican food at good prices according to Koki.
Coppa sometimes gets a good assortment of chicas, one ISG member has posted recently that some will take 2000 pesos. I have just about always seen some pros sitting at slot machines inside the melia casino.
I saw one huge tall Dominican guy at the Melia casino who used to pitch for the Mets baseball team, he looked very drunk, he was gambling at the Melia casino.
Appears the venue the Piano Bar is gone for good.
I will be in SD in about 10 days. I would love to do some snooping to see what spots are still jumping. I am newbie to SD. However if you old pros have some locations you would like me to check out let me know. Looks like my timing is bad with the contrversy in SD. One thing I know where there is a will there is a way. The Puta are out there and will be found. My money says they more anxious then ever. Prices have probably gone down.
Jao,
So I guess the Piano bar on upper Pastuer is gone. I found that hidden gem and it closed down after I left the DR. I was there the week before it closed and 3 couples came in for a drink togrther. All ages. I was sitting at the bar chatting with Walesea, the other girls hid in the back room until they left. (about 20 minutes). The couples left and the girls laid low. I left a half hour later and they told me not to talk to anyone outside if I was stopped. No one stopped me to talk. Then I read a few weeks later they were closed. To bad, I spent 3 nights there and there was no pressure and they had 3 girls that were 8's and a 9. Oh well! Memories
I will be in SD in about 10 days. I would love to do some snooping to see what spots are still jumping. I am newbie to SD. However if you old pros have some locations you would like me to check out let me know. Looks like my timing is bad with the contrversy in SD. One thing I know where there is a will there is a way. The Puta are out there and will be found. My money says they more anxious then ever. Prices have probably gone down.You could send Alex Deuce a PM, he has contact info for many chicas in SDQ. You could send Mardonius a PM, he knows a Dominican guy who he recommends, that could help you procure chicas, same for Joe Roma.
If you are only interested in looking for pro chicas on the four blocks of Avenida Independencia between hotel riazor and hotel la casona dorada, then you will probably be disappointed. There are numerous casas in Santo Domingo, some with prices starting at 1000 pesos. I don't mind driving a country mile chasing after tail. There are streetwalkers within a ten minute drive of the Jaragua Hotel and Casino, at night. If you don't want to drive at night, you could probably get a taxi driver to drive you to where the the streetwalkers hang out for $13US or less round-trip. One ISG member says don't pick up streetwalkers using a car, but the way Santo Domingo is now, using a car is probably the only way to pick some of the streetwalkers. The streetwalkers in zona colonial and the ones on Indpendencia (near the cemetery and park independenica can be picked up on foot. The other street walkers on the Malecon and on Avenida Jimenez Moya (ave. Churchill) you will need a car.
Things change and streetwalkers may move to other locations, so ask local guys who look trustworthy for their opinion.
I went looking for that place a few times and never found it. Last February, I went looking for it in the early evening and all I found was a small restaurant. That small restaurant near where Piano Bar was located, gets good reviews from Koki. I believe it is owned by a French guy who is married to a Dominicana. Dominican food at good prices according to Koki.
Coppa sometimes gets a good assortment of chicas, one ISG member has posted recently that some will take 2000 pesos. I have just about always seen some pros sitting at slot machines inside the melia casino.
I saw one huge tall Dominican guy at the Melia casino who used to pitch for the Mets baseball team, he looked very drunk, he was gambling at the Melia casino.
Appears the venue the Piano Bar is gone for good. I think you saw Jose Reyes. I met him in there and talked to him quite awhile because we had a lot of things in common. He is a class act.
BoricuaOnline
04-27-11, 04:37
I went looking for that place a few times and never found it. Last February, I went looking for it in the early evening and all I found was a small restaurant. That small restaurant near where Piano Bar was located, gets good reviews from Koki. I believe it is owned by a French guy who is married to a Dominicana. Dominican food at good prices according to Koki.
Appears the venue the Piano Bar is gone for good. I went to 56 Piano bar once with Panman and Whatnow. I saw a cute young busty chica I liked a lot but it was closing time so we moved to 305.
I went back last month and it was closed. The next door on the same building and before the restaurant was new, dark cristal door that says "sport bar" and then on smaller letters something like "adults only" or "18 and over". Was it a sport bar or an "adults ony" place, I do not know.
I think you saw Jose Reyes. I met him in there and talked to him quite awhile because we had a lot of things in common. He is a class act.The guy I saw was a tall guy, I believe it was Guillermo Mota, Pitcher, Height: 6' 6", Weight: 240 lb.
Too bad Business is not a standard course taught in schools today. Businesses are not in business to provide wages and benefits. Businesses are in business to make a profit. The only sector where profits aren't needed to stay in business is the Federal Government. Why? Because they just take it from the rest of us tax payers to stay afloat. The Post Office is a perfect example of waste. All the employees are Union, but the entire system is running on a deficit in the billions. Do postal workers not make a decent wage? Would you argue that they should receive more money? You can't possibly tell me you like standing in line there every time you need one stamp. If the Post Office were a private company UPS (super-efficient) would take all of their business and run them out of business.
Let's pretend you owned a Lemonade stand and could only afford to pay one worker $12 dollars per hour. Now, what happens if your worker joins a Lemonade worker union and you now have to pay $17 an hour? Are you going to just fold up shop and tell your family you don't know where your next meal is coming from because you can't affords to stay in business? Or will you look for another area / state / country to open up shop in?
And sorry, I'm no Red Neck (and I know you weren't referring to me as one) , but no one here in Texas is talking about moving anytime soon, let alone to Maryland! In fact, I'm losing count of the amount of out-of-state plates I see on the highway daily, LOL. And why would we have to go that far East when Louisiana is right next door (who we are in intense competition with over attracting Businesses)? You are right. Business basics should be a required course in school, however it should also be taught to politicians. There are some facts that you left out of your comparison of UPS to the Postal Service.
1. The 1973 Postal Reorganization Act mandated that the Postal Service would no longer be a governmental department.
2. As a "quasi" federal agency it is required to provide its own funding.
3. The Postal Service receives NO subsidies from the government! In other words NO TAX DOLLARS!
4. Every aspect of the Postal Service is regulated or controlled by the government.
5. Universal service is mandated. (If a branch or station is not making money it cannot be closed without permission from so-called politicians.
6. The Postal Service does not provide just one type of delivery (ex UPS and packages).
7. The Postal Service has some of, if not the lowest rates in the world.
What business do you know of that could survive under these type of restrictions? Definitely not UPS. (Perhaps you do not know it but they do not deliver on Saturday and they do not deliver everywhere. People are up in arms because the Postal Service wants to do the same.)
I am now getting off my soapbox. :) I apologize for boring some of you.
SavePros321
04-27-11, 13:46
You are right. Business basics should be a required course in school, however it should also be taught to politicians. There are some facts that you left out of your comparison of UPS to the Postal Service.
1. The 1973 Postal Reorganization Act mandated that the Postal Service would no longer be a governmental department.
2. As a "quasi" federal agency it is required to provide its own funding.
3. The Postal Service receives NO subsidies from the government! In other words NO TAX DOLLARS!
4. Every aspect of the Postal Service is regulated or controlled by the government.
5. Universal service is mandated. (If a branch or station is not making money it cannot be closed without permission from so-called politicians.
6. The Postal Service does not provide just one type of delivery (ex UPS and packages).
7. The Postal Service has some of, if not the lowest rates in the world.
What business do you know of that could survive under these type of restrictions? Definitely not UPS. (Perhaps you do not know it but they do not deliver on Saturday and they do not deliver everywhere. People are up in arms because the Postal Service wants to do the same.)
I am now getting off my soapbox. . I apologize for boring some of you. In all fairness to the SD board this response (above) was to a post I posted on the 19th. Bq Ribs asked us to get back on subject so I dropped the politics. Don't know why someone would go and dig this 8-day-old post up again.
Just thought I'd mention this before Jao unleashes the Northeast fury upon me, LOL. As Mystical used to say: "It Ain't My Fault!"
darklurker
04-27-11, 23:13
Thanks for the information. Appreciate the help. I have a few more questions before I leave tomorrow night:
1) Lapsus, La Parada and Baby dolls open check (Ty Boricua ). Saw on the mongering map babydolls is 3500 for ST. Are the girls hotter / better performers or is it just more expensive?
2) Were Pastuer 56 and Playboy Palace and / or 360 bar affected by the recent events?
Thanks again
You are right. Business basics should be a required course in school, however it should also be taught to politicians. There are some facts that you left out of your comparison of UPS to the Postal Service.
1. The 1973 Postal Reorganization Act mandated that the Postal Service would no longer be a governmental department.
2. As a "quasi" federal agency it is required to provide its own funding.
3. The Postal Service receives NO subsidies from the government! In other words NO TAX DOLLARS!
4. Every aspect of the Postal Service is regulated or controlled by the government.
5. Universal service is mandated. (If a branch or station is not making money it cannot be closed without permission from so-called politicians.
6. The Postal Service does not provide just one type of delivery (ex UPS and packages).
7. The Postal Service has some of, if not the lowest rates in the world.
What business do you know of that could survive under these type of restrictions? Definitely not UPS. (Perhaps you do not know it but they do not deliver on Saturday and they do not deliver everywhere. People are up in arms because the Postal Service wants to do the same.)
I am now getting off my soapbox. . I apologize for boring some of you. I will be short as possible also too many people just listen to radio personalities and just repeat what they hear from them and never realizing they and the radio and talk show hosts are not in the same economic class. These guys do not want anyone making a decent wage and they think the postal workers make too much money. You do need a middle class or you become a Brazil and that is what is shrinking in the USA. It's the middle class guy that if he is doing well making a decent wage that up grade and buys the new car, takes his family to disney world, eats out more and a lot of other things that support buisness and the economy.
Middle class people buy the goods and services much more than poor people.
Ok enough of that I will be back in Santo in may and will give some reports.
Bigbuttluva
04-28-11, 02:47
Let's get back to business. I will be in SD in three weeks and will report back what I see with my own two eyes.Bq Ribs PM your itinerary. I am scheduled to touch down on May 21st. Lets rock SD again this time around. I hope you ve polished up your spanish and you won't be surprised to know that I speak spanish fluently now. Later.
BoricuaOnline
04-28-11, 04:41
Thanks for the information. Appreciate the help. I have a few more questions before I leave tomorrow night:
1) Lapsus, La Parada and Baby dolls open check (Ty Boricua ). Saw on the mongering map babydolls is 3500 for ST. Are the girls hotter / better performers or is it just more expensive?
2) Were Pastuer 56 and Playboy Palace and / or 360 bar affected by the recent events?
Thanks againLapsus nobody reported that it is close so it should be open, La Parada bar is open, La Parada casa is closed, Baby dolls, Playboy Palace. 360 open, Pasteur 56 closed months ago. Yanni is wide open (as seen on Mundo Anuncio).
Lapsus nobody reported that it is close so it should be open, La Parada bar is open, La Parada casa is closed, Baby dolls, Playboy Palace. 360 open, Pasteur 56 closed months ago. Yanni is wide open (as seen on Mundo Anuncio).From Mundo Anuncio seems Playboy Palace in Zona Colonial has a new light skin chica, price seems the same. 1000 for one chica or 1500 for two. Pics from Mundo Anuncio.
Lapsus nobody reported that it is close so it should be open, La Parada bar is open, La Parada casa is closed, Baby dolls, Playboy Palace. 360 open, Pasteur 56 closed months ago. Yanni is wide open (as seen on Mundo Anuncio).Some of the advertisements in Mundo Anuncio make laugh: "Soy una negra caliente why atrevida lista para realizar tus fantasias, estoy disponible desde 7:0am en adelante este es mi numero. Trios, oral, vaginal, anal, bix, lebicos".
Lapsus nobody reported that it is close so it should be open, La Parada bar is open, La Parada casa is closed, Baby dolls, Playboy Palace. 360 open, Pasteur 56 closed months ago. Yanni is wide open (as seen on Mundo Anuncio).Recent classified advertisements from listin diario; for Pink Pony, Las mejores divas de la zona, Santiagueras why mas. 5 habs. Confortable, A partir 10:00am. $1, 000, $1, 500 why $2, 000. Av. Nunez de Cacceres #6, 2do niv. Frente Corripio 809-476-9761, 809-856-2717.
For Mambo Bar; El mejor lugar para botar el stres. Atendido por lindas, simpaticas why sensuales camareras. Abierto desde las 5:00 pm Show todas las noches no cover no minimo. 2x1 en tragos, de 5 a 7 pm Plaza Fernandez II, Churchill, esq. Jose A. Soler. 809-334-5650.
From Mundio Anuncio for GBP (a / k/a Gim Bar) ; Noches inolvidable en Gim Bar, Ven a pasarla bien con nosotras en Gim Bar. Tenemos una noche playera, una de fantasía, una con concurso why muchas mas a donde podrás disfrutar del mejor ambiente de la capital a precio moderado. No olvida los shows gratis a entrar. Te esperamos, para te hacer descubrir los placeres de la semana santa antes de fecha. Llámanos al 809-918-8871.
Pics from Mundo Anuncio.
Flaco Loco
04-28-11, 19:54
I will be short as possible also too many people just listen to radio personalities and just repeat what they hear from them and never realizing they and the radio and talk show hosts are not in the same economic class. These guys do not want anyone making a decent wage and they think the postal workers make too much money. You do need a middle class or you become a Brazil and that is what is shrinking in the USA. It's the middle class guy that if he is doing well making a decent wage that up grade and buys the new car, takes his family to disney world, eats out more and a lot of other things that support buisness and the economy.
Middle class people buy the goods and services much more than poor people.
Ok enough of that I will be back in Santo in may and will give some reports. BTW, Brazil has one of the fastest growing middle class demographics in the world but I will post this in politics.
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