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Marc Anthony
09-17-13, 20:11
Very high. Second only to going to the salon, but by the time they emerge five hours later my dick has gone soft so buying clothes is probably more effective.I think some people might read us as just saying they are being mercenary but I think the experience of having a guy take them out to indulge them in trying on and buying clothes is a pretty rare thing to a good unspoiled chica and is actually playing out a sort of fantasy role in almost the same way one would engage in sexual role play. New clothes are an aspiration and an ego boost and a BF offering this and being an interested and appreciative audience I think is actually arousing to a lot of chicas, if finding them ready to pounce on me and dripping wet when we got home is any measure.

I couldn't attempt this with a middle class chica with more expensive tastes but a few thousand peso budget not for necessities but to indulge herself will make an unspoiled chica feel like a star.

Mr Gogo
09-17-13, 21:00
I think some people might read us as just saying they are being mercenary but I think the experience of having a guy take them out to indulge them in trying on and buying clothes is a pretty rare thing to a good unspoiled chica and is actually playing out a sort of fantasy role in almost the same way one would engage in sexual role play. New clothes are an aspiration and an ego boost and a BF offering this and being an interested and appreciative audience I think is actually arousing to a lot of chicas, if finding them ready to pounce on me and dripping wet when we got home is any measure.

I couldn't attempt this with a middle class chica with more expensive tastes but a few thousand peso budget not for necessities but to indulge herself will make an unspoiled chica feel like a star.I respect what your saying but I disagree. If these chicas are in the campo with basic necessities and you start making her fly, then you might be setting her up for trouble. The boys in the bario will probably take notice of her new luxury items and make her a target for violence or scams.

This dude that I talk via pm just purchased his chica her second iphone because the boys snatched it while she was talking on it.

Its best IMHO to give her food for the house, milk for the baby or a little cash for her piggy bank. If you elevate the chica beyond her environment, then she can be in trouble if she plans to stay there. The crabs don't want her to achieve in their faces.

BogieMaker
09-17-13, 23:45
Girl House, Sky High, and 305 closed last night and arrests made. Any more info from our SD experts?I got this message last Friday from a friend who was working in Venecia when they closed it.

Han cerrado todos los negocios nos quedamos sin trabajo.

Nada.

Estoy en la calle, sin saber como irme a casa.

When I asked she said they were all closed. I have known her for over four years and this is the first time she has been concerned about how she is supposed to make a living.

Knowledge
09-17-13, 23:50
Did the rest of the message by any chance include a request to send money?

I think you are wise to ask for confirmation about the real situation. If she really needed money and is in the street she knows how to get it.


I got this message last Friday from a friend who was working in Venecia when they closed it.

Han cerrado todos los negocios nos quedamos sin trabajo.

Nada.

Estoy en la calle, sin saber como irme a casa.

When I asked she said they were all closed. I have known her for over four years and this is the first time she has been concerned about how she is supposed to make a living.

Qualude
09-18-13, 00:02
Girl House, Sky High, and 305 closed last night and arrests made. Any more info from our SD experts?I also heard from a favorite today they they were all closed. Does anyone know who was arrested? By that I mean the owners, the workers, the chicas or the mongers?

OldKool
09-18-13, 01:57
I almost never go to the casas. It is just not my thing. Casas being close will not slow my roll. You have to take a bit more time to meet and set up dates but your encounters will be much better than the one and done pros.


Damn! They're messing up my favorite country!

BogieMaker
09-18-13, 06:27
Did the rest of the message by any chance include a request to send money?

I think you are wise to ask for confirmation about the real situation. If she really needed money and is in the street she knows how to get it.I have know the girl for four years and she has only been sent a little money on her birthday each year. She never asks for money unless it is in trade for future services and she always delivers. Overall we have maintained a relationship of friends over the years and I definitely get the GFE when I visit her. As she gets older being in the business becomes more difficult and she feels the pressure from the younger girls and those with plastic surgery.

BogieMaker
09-18-13, 06:42
From the news section on DR1.

Nightclubs closed in Gazcue.

Dominican prosecutors continue to close down brothels located in the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo. Yesterday, Monday 16 September, the National District prosecutor office announced that two nightclubs, The Girls House and Sky High, were closed for violation of the law against trafficking in migrants and people. The owners Ronny Colalzo, Eden Mena Guirola and Marlen Llerena were arrested and the prosecutors say they will be charged, as reported in Hoy.

OldKool
09-18-13, 13:54
These are some of the big boy clubs not the holes in the wall. This is sending a serious message. The day of the casas may be numbered. They will need to change how they function. They need to develope a scheme like BB or FOD to work around the laws. It is possible but I think greed may prevent them.


From the news section on DR1.

Nightclubs closed in Gazcue.

Dominican prosecutors continue to close down brothels located in the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo. Yesterday, Monday 16 September, the National District prosecutor office announced that two nightclubs, The Girls House and Sky High, were closed for violation of the law against trafficking in migrants and people. The owners Ronny Colalzo, Eden Mena Guirola and Marlen Llerena were arrested and the prosecutors say they will be charged, as reported in Hoy.

Brugal8
09-18-13, 14:12
These are some of the big boy clubs not the holes in the wall. This is sending a serious message. The day of the casas may be numbered. They will need to change how they function. They need to develope a scheme like BB or FOD to work around the laws. It is possible but I think greed may prevent them.I think this time the authorities mean business and the owners will really have to develop a bulletproof system if they want to reopen. Personally I think this is BS since these type of moral issues are plain out stupid.

These politicians need to focus on how to fight real corruption.

Brother P
09-18-13, 14:34
These are some of the big boy clubs not the holes in the wall. This is sending a serious message. The day of the casas may be numbered. They will need to change how they function. They need to develope a scheme like BB or FOD to work around the laws. It is possible but I think greed may prevent them.The main difference I see is that at BB and FOD you pay the girl and not the house. It will be interesting to see if this countines to save them. They may be next! The days of fish in the barrel mongering may be over.

Shamester
09-18-13, 15:59
I got this message last Friday from a friend who was working in Venecia when they closed it.

Han cerrado todos los negocios nos quedamos sin trabajo.

Nada.

Estoy en la calle, sin saber como irme a casa.

When I asked she said they were all closed. I have known her for over four years and this is the first time she has been concerned about how she is supposed to make a living.Very interesting. DR is serious about changing its image.

Marc Anthony
09-18-13, 15:59
I think this time the authorities mean business and the owners will really have to develop a bulletproof system if they want to reopen. Personally I think this is BS since these type of moral issues are plain out stupid.

These politicians need to focus on how to fight real corruption.They were always openly violating dominican law so it would have been pretty hard to look serious about cracking down while ignoring the famous and obvious brothels operating within a few miles of the AGs office.

I don't know if BBs and FOD have a system that insulates them or not. The main dominican business models that do are clubs or discos that just provide a pick-up venue or which hire chicas as servers and charge "salida" if they want to leave before the end of their shift. That "salida chica" disco tipico is all over the country by the hundreds and I think meets the legal standard (though you don't see many reports from guys other than expats using them). Unlike brothels, discos tipico hide in plain sight and are used by couples and could be visited by tourists without anybody being too upset that they seem to have a lot more barmaids hanging out than they reasonably need.

SavePros321
09-18-13, 16:09
I don't know if BBs and FOD have a system that insulates them or not. The main dominican business models that do are clubs or discos that just provide a pick-up venue or which hire chicas as servers and charge "salida" if they want to leave before the end of their shift. That "salida chica" disco tipico is all over the country by the hundreds and I think meets the legal standard (though you don't see many reports from guys other than expats using them). Unlike brothels, discos tipico hide in plain sight and are used by couples and could be visited by tourists without anybody being too upset that they seem to have a lot more barmaids hanging out than they reasonably need.I do not know the (Dominican) law verbatim, but the way Blackbeard's and FOD is different than these casas (including Passions in Sosua) is that they do not make money from the chicas. When you are at Blackbeard's you give your money directly to the chica; not to "the house". BB's and FOD only make money on rooms, food, and drinks.

When you session with a chica at a casa or at passions, you give your money to the house. Shit, passions even had a menu of services, LOL.

BUT, I do see BB's running into problems in that they charge a salida if you are not a guest there and you come and take a chica from BB's. They may want to look at disguising this as a "drink minimum" charge or something (but nothing crazy like LDV in Cartagena).

OldKool
09-18-13, 23:04
http://www.7dias.com.do/index.php/noticias/148144/Cierran_tres_establecimientos_mas_en_Gazcue_donde_habia_cerca_de_70_prostituidas#.Ujoi_9K-rHB

This could raise the quality of the SWs in the area

Knowledge
09-19-13, 02:17
Many clubs. Including the places on Pasteur. Have been closed and reopened several times over the years. It is a cycle. Casa de Modelos aka casa de munecas got shut down at least 4 times that I can remember over the past 10 years. It's all money and politics. There is a power struggle going on in the PRD just now and the PLD is vulnerable to persistent scandal rumors surrounding Leonel. Anyway, the cycle is the neighbors complain when the clubs get out of hand with noise and neon and drug selling street boys hanging around. The clubs get shut down and then they quietly reopen one by one as money changes hand. The club owners then get greedy and start getting out of hand again. The other part of the cycle is when casas get shut guys will come on the internet and say there will be no more clubs reopening.


These are some of the big boy clubs not the holes in the wall. This is sending a serious message. The day of the casas may be numbered. They will need to change how they function. They need to develope a scheme like BB or FOD to work around the laws. It is possible but I think greed may prevent them.

Knowledge
09-19-13, 02:32
It reopened several times since this happened five years ago, and it is open now:

https://mujercristianaylatina.wordpress.com/tag/prostibulo/


http://www.7dias.com.do/index.php/noticias/148144/Cierran_tres_establecimientos_mas_en_Gazcue_donde_habia_cerca_de_70_prostituidas#.Ujoi_9K-rHB

This could raise the quality of the SWs in the area

Amocuba
09-19-13, 03:28
Heading to Santo Domingo for the first time in mid-October (16-28). Have been to Sosua several times but wanted a change. Am going to search the threads here for more information. Feel free to share any tips or suggestions.

Marc Anthony
09-19-13, 04:09
I do not know the (Dominican) law verbatim, but the way Blackbeard's and FOD is different than these casas (including Passions in Sosua) is that they do not make money from the chicas. When you are at Blackbeard's you give your money directly to the chica; not to "the house". BB's and FOD only make money on rooms, food, and drinks.

When you session with a chica at a casa or at passions, you give your money to the house. Shit, passions even had a menu of services, LOL.

BUT, I do see BB's running into problems in that they charge a salida if you are not a guest there and you come and take a chica from BB's. They may want to look at disguising this as a "drink minimum" charge or something (but nothing crazy like LDV in Cartagena).I have never been to Blackbeards (I will one if these days) but I was in the hotel before it was bought and became BB and discussed the issue with Billy Lane (before he built FOD). I think if the chicas were employed as waitresses technically just as with the discos they could charge salida for them leaving the premises on their shift. The only problem then is the house mother and standardized prices which might be issues. But I think it's a big difference as you say that they are paid directly.

As other people have commented, it is of course political, but it's not like the law means nothing. It's still takes more juice to do something blatantly illegal than something that's just a little edgy.

Iguana Six
09-19-13, 08:14
Arrived in SDQ super late, and I was not able to get into my first choice hotel (Jaragua) until Friday. I'm in the Courtyard Marriot until then.

Won't have much time after work tomorrow, so could someone suggest a good "sure thing" venue to try tomorrow night, possibly close by?

Is Lapsus still open and a viable option?

OldKool
09-19-13, 13:33
Most hotels are not chica friendly and many of the casas are being closed. You need to develope a bit of a game plan or you will be disappointed. In SD you need a bit of Spanish to get around. If you do some research you can have a great time. The hotels you have chosen will not let you bring girls in. There are many that do so research and find them. You are not asking the right questions,


Arrived in SDQ super late, and I was not able to get into my first choice hotel (Jaragua) until Friday. I'm in the Courtyard Marriot until then.

Won't have much time after work tomorrow, so could someone suggest a good "sure thing" venue to try tomorrow night, possibly close by?

Is Lapsus still open and a viable option?

Charles Pooter
09-19-13, 13:53
As other people have commented, it is of course political, but it's not like the law means nothing. It's still takes more juice to do something blatantly illegal than something that's just a little edgy.Like most countries with written constitutions, the DR has a million laws to cover every possible situation. Each successive dictator and corrupt regime has produced a new tranche of laws in an attempt to solve problems or win public approval, but old laws are very rarely cleaned up or cleaned off. That means any powerful person who wants to do something, or counter something someone else is doing, can always find a valid law to justify it. And someone more powerful than him can always find a different but equally valid law to block his law.

So as Marc Anthony says, the law does mean something and is usually being correctly applied, but those with most juice benefit from it.

Of course this means the country is a heaven for lawyers. Walk down any street in any large or small town and count how many lawyers offices there are. The numbers are staggering for such a small and poor country. And some of them are barely literate or numerate.

Buscemi
09-19-13, 14:36
Most hotels are not chica friendly and many of the casas are being closed. You need to develope a bit of a game plan or you will be disappointed. In SD you need a bit of Spanish to get around. If you do some research you can have a great time. The hotels you have chosen will not let you bring girls in. There are many that do so research and find them. You are not asking the right questions,Why don't you answer the guy's question instead of giving him a critique on his posting style, enough already, you are a liability to this forum.

Grandnash84
09-19-13, 18:28
Just got off the phone with a friend in Santo Domingo. I heard the reason that some casas closed was because the owners did not pay tax. It had nothing to do with prostitution. Heard only 4 clubs closed and 8 are still open.

Iguana Six
09-19-13, 20:50
Most hotels are not chica friendly and many of the casas are being closed. You need to develope a bit of a game plan or you will be disappointed. In SD you need a bit of Spanish to get around. If you do some research you can have a great time. The hotels you have chosen will not let you bring girls in. There are many that do so research and find them. You are not asking the right questions,OldKool: Hay veces cuando el soldado no tienes meses or semanas para planificar la invasion de los playas de Normandie para los operaciones de "D-Day." Hay occasiones cuando el soldado es un paracaidista o un piloto que se encuentra haciendo un salto de sopresa encima de el campo de el enemigo.

Didn't have time to come up with a game plan. Speak excellent Spanish. I have only a few nights and I don't want to waste them doing research,

If I saw a post that said,"This is my first time in country X. If you could only spend 2-3 nights here, what would you do, where would you go to engage in the hobby?" and it was country I had gone to, I would gladly take a couple of minutes to provide some quick advice. I have done so on many of my 200+ posts. I would gladly do so for any of you who asked first time questions asked about Singapore, Seoul, Angeles, Medellin, or any Central American capital.

OldKool
09-20-13, 01:21
My only concern in Santo Domingo is the recent crack down on casas. Some very popular brothels were shut down just last week. The hotel palacio is my favorite or you could try the hotel Roma 1 and 2 or hotel Mecure. These are all in the colonal zona. It is very safe and has every thing you could want in walking distance, El Conde is a pedestrian mall that you can walk almost all hours and often SWs are there. There is a cafe at one end of El conde called Grands / Pacos. There are working girls there in small numbers most days. You will feel very comfortable there. There are small casinos in SD that also will have women looking to hook up. I would take some time to read some of the distinguished posts could be very valuable to you. Cabs near El conde charge tourist rates. 200 to 300 pesos should get you everywhere. If you can hook up with a good driver could be a big help. Just always do your own negotiation. SWs are 1000 to 2000 pesos. I pay 1500 almost always. Just remember all the local are hustling so do your own thing. Buscemi kiss my ass. You took time to criticize me but no effort to help the guy.


OldKool: Hay veces cuando el soldado no tienes meses or semanas para planificar la invasion de los playas de Normandie para los operaciones de "D-Day." Hay occasiones cuando el soldado es un paracaidista o un piloto que se encuentra haciendo un salto de sopresa encima de el campo de el enemigo.

Didn't have time to come up with a game plan. Speak excellent Spanish. I have only a few nights and I don't want to waste them doing research,

If I saw a post that said,"This is my first time in country X. If you could only spend 2-3 nights here, what would you do, where would you go to engage in the hobby?" and it was country I had gone to, I would gladly take a couple of minutes to provide some quick advice. I have done so on many of my 200+ posts. I would gladly do so for any of you who asked first time questions asked about Singapore, Seoul, Angeles, Medellin, or any Central American capital.

Qualude
09-20-13, 08:03
Just got off the phone with a friend in Santo Domingo. I heard the reason that some casas closed was because the owners did not pay tax. It had nothing to do with prostitution. Heard only 4 clubs closed and 8 are still open.Your friends accounts differs from what has been reported in the media and on the internet. Below is what appeared on the website DR1 earlier in the week. It is doubtful that the authorities would arrest you and publicly charge someone with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) when it is just a tax dispute.


Nightclubs closed in Gazcue.

Dominican prosecutors continue to close down brothels located in the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo. Yesterday, Monday 16 September, the National District prosecutor office announced that two nightclubs, The Girls House and Sky High, were closed for violation of the law against trafficking in migrants and people. The owners Ronny Colalzo, Eden Mena Guirola and Marlen Llerena were arrested and the prosecutors say they will be charged, as reported in Hoy.

Shamester
09-20-13, 16:50
Just got off the phone with a friend in santo domingo. I heard the reason that some casas closed was because the owners did not pay tax. It had nothing to do with prostitution. Heard only 4 clubs closed and 8 are still open.Sounds right.

What about all the bribery money?

Shamester
09-20-13, 16:57
Your friends accounts differs from what has been reported in the media and on the internet. Below is what appeared on the website DR1 earlier in the week. It is doubtful that the authorities would arrest you and publicly charge someone with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) when it is just a tax dispute.There is also global perception. Reports claim DR is attempting to transform to a higher paying cruise ship destination instead of lower spending sex tourist destination.

Alex Deuce
09-21-13, 01:44
Many clubs. Including the places on Pasteur. Have been closed and reopened several times over the years. It is a cycle. Casa de Modelos aka casa de munecas got shut down at least 4 times that I can remember over the past 10 years. It's all money and politics. There is a power struggle going on in the PRD just now and the PLD is vulnerable to persistent scandal rumors surrounding Leonel. Anyway, the cycle is the neighbors complain when the clubs get out of hand with noise and neon and drug selling street boys hanging around. The clubs get shut down and then they quietly reopen one by one as money changes hand. The club owners then get greedy and start getting out of hand again. The other part of the cycle is when casas get shut guys will come on the internet and say there will be no more clubs reopening.Not this time. Casas are flatly illegal in Dominican Republic and always have been. Now the bribe takers and makers are being arrested and prosecuted / fired. They are being charged with sex trafficking. There will be no quiet reopening unless the entire business model changes. But what do I know.

Its real simple, if the girl is not handed the money, treated like a contractor, arrived at your location of her own free will and means, you are in violation of of the legal statutes of pandering or sex trafficking. There is no grey in Dominican law concerning this.

SavePros321
09-21-13, 02:18
There is also global perception. Reports claim DR is attempting to transform to a higher paying cruise ship destination instead of lower spending.

Sex destination tourist destination.So are you saying the DR is going to become a Cruise Ship economy(lol)? Please post the link to these "Reports" claiming that the entire island is being transformed into one big Cruise Ship port. Something other than the report about the Port in Maimon that has been discussed to death already.

Marc Anthony
09-21-13, 02:47
So are you saying the DR is going to become a Cruise Ship economy(lol)? Please post the link to these "Reports" claiming that the entire island is being transformed into one big Cruise Ship port. Something other than the report about the Port in Maimon that has been discussed to death already.They do want to grow the cruise ship biz but that's even more mass market than the package AIs. At least the AIs buy some food and employ locals. Cruise ship passengers generally don't even eat in a cruise port and don't drop much money per capita.

I think the business that's most influenced by bad pr for the sex biz is real estate, which in the DR is flooded with cash being laundered by the narco industrial complex. It's also of course harmed by drugs and the local crime they stimulate. A lot of the rising crime rate in the DR is driven by cartels using the DR for transhipment from SA to the US paying local protection in product rather than cash. 10 years ago there wasn't a fraction of the cocaine reaching the streets in the DR as today. It mostly passed through. Now whatever compact that existed to keep drogas out of the barrios even as they passed through the country has broken down. The disorder this creates does more to mess up real estate values than brothels of course but that would focus attention on things better left obscure.

SavePros321
09-21-13, 02:59
They do want to grow the cruise ship biz but that's even more mass market than the package AIs. At least the AIs buy some food and employ locals. Cruise ship passengers generally don't even eat in a cruise port and don't drop much money per capita.Exactly. Hopefully Mr. E will repost his experience with this pulling into Jamaica on a cruise ship, and what he was told and witnessed.

Alex Deuce
09-21-13, 04:28
so are you saying the dr is going to become a cruise ship economy(lol)? please post the link to these "reports" claiming that the entire island is being transformed into one big cruise ship port. something other than the report about the port in maimon that has been discussed to death already.some of you are missing the point. its a multi faceted collaborative approach to clean up dr and improve it's economy. what's catching some off guard is that it's actually "a plan" to get it done and its being executed. some are dead ass wrong on the economic affects of maimon, don't even read the entirety of their own articles, obfurep001e facts and i'm not going there again.

there are just as many narco arrest / deportation as casa closures. dea and several american agencies are chasing down money and drugs as well as their investments. been telling you guys this for a year now. they are getting us dollars to assist under the cover of narco trade and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). its a kin to how they cleaned up puerto rico in a flash at the late 80's.

Iguana Six
09-21-13, 05:35
Having received little advice yesterday, I decided to avoid SlipOnMe (great website) when a phone call could not confirm full service. I also avoided an estetica (Capillar on Calle 2 and Cervantes) , and read some more reviews on GBP.

Of course, I had to find the location of GBP on ANOTHER website that came up when I googled "GBP and Santo Domingo"

The other site said 27 Febrero between Avenidas Lincoln and Tiradentes, down the block from National Grocery Store, across the street but on the same side of the street as Arismedy Motores, in the Guidry strip mall, second floor, with GBP in neon over the door. I would add that it across the boulevard from Jade asian restaurant.

Pros: I was out numbered by 5 chicas, I was the only customer. 3 of the chicas were spinners and kinda cute, one was rather big boned, and one was tall, dark and saucy. I cose a spinner and was surprised by how passionate she was, how there was no upsell from the basic price of 1, 000 pesos and it included BBBJ and a nice massage. Cons: loud music, lack of doors on the private rooms (curtains!), slim sofas to do your stuff versus beds (although the next day I got a room with some fold out cushions we put on the floor), lack of showers, sleazily decorated bar

El Lobo Solo
09-21-13, 15:47
27 Febrero between Avenidas Lincoln and Tiradentes, down the block from National Grocery Store, across the street but on the same side of the street as Arismedy Motores, in the Guidry strip mall, second floor, with GBP in neon over the door. I would add that it across the boulevard from Jade asian restaurant.

Pros: I was out numbered by 5 chicas, I was the only customer. 3 of the chicas were spinners and kinda cute, one was rather big boned, and one was tall, dark and saucy. I cose a spinner and was surprised by how passionate she was, how there was no upsell from the basic price of 1, 000 pesos and it included BBBJ and a nice massage. Cons: loud music, lack of doors on the private rooms (curtains!) , slim sofas to do your stuff versus beds (although the next day I got a room with some fold out cushions we put on the floor) , lack of showers, sleazily decorated barGlad you were able to get your first priorities taken care of in such short order! I'm contemplating a trip to Santo Domingo, and good, current intel is very much appreciated.

Shamester
09-21-13, 18:45
some of you are missing the point. its a multi faceted collaborative approach to clean up dr and improve it's economy. what's catching some off guard is that it's actually "a plan" to get it done and its being executed. some are dead ass wrong on the economic affects of maimon, don't even read the entirety of their own articles, obfurep001e facts and i'm not going there again.

there are just as many narco arrest / deportation as casa closures. dea and several american agencies are chasing down money and drugs as well as their investments. been telling you guys this for a year now. they are getting us dollars to assist under the cover of narco trade and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). its a kin to how they cleaned up puerto rico in a flash at the late 80's.yes. too many black and white posters that are too self centered.

changing its image provides more us subsidies and tax dollars from cruise ship patrons and workers. how many putas and pimps pay taxes?

Brother P
09-21-13, 19:50
some of you are missing the point. its a multi faceted collaborative approach to clean up dr and improve it's economy. what's catching some off guard is that it's actually "a plan" to get it done and its being executed. some are dead ass wrong on the economic affects of maimon, don't even read the entirety of their own articles, obfurep001e facts and i'm not going there again.

there are just as many narco arrest / deportation as casa closures. dea and several american agencies are chasing down money and drugs as well as their investments. been telling you guys this for a year now. they are getting us dollars to assist under the cover of narco trade and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). its a kin to how they cleaned up puerto rico in a flash at the late 80's.it certainy looks like they're trying to clean up the republics image as a sex tourist destination. i guess time will tell how serious they are. however, i can't see how closing casas improves the economy. i wonder where they expect these women to find comparable employment. is puerto rico better off after the clean up? considering pr is under the american flag is that a good comparison? the us needs to mind its own business and stop with the half ass interventions. just me dos centavos!

SavePros321
09-21-13, 21:18
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Revere
09-21-13, 21:26
Some of you guys live in a bubble.

We've got the threat of a government shutdown coming Sept. 30th; they are trying to get the debt ceiling raised yet again because we are broke (and a POTUS who says "raising our debt ceiling does not increase our debt:

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/obama-raising-debt-ceilingdoes-not-increase-our-debt-though-it-has-over

You've got the Fed talking about continuing QE to flood the market with inflated, value-less dollars and sparking talks of a currency war (

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101045968/

And my man here is talking about "more US subsidies", like we are just handing out money like Lollipops, LMAO. You must work in Washington with the rest of the Shamsters.

And please with the "giving the DR money to defeat Narcos" malarkey. I live in a border state. The feds aren't doing jack-shit to combat drug trafficking.Http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-03-21/news/puerto-rico-drugs-murders-miami/

I think you will see some interesting similarities with the Dominican Republic

SavePros321
09-21-13, 21:41
Http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-03-21/news/puerto-rico-drugs-murders-miami/
I think you will see some interesting similarities with the Dominican RepublicAlso interesting from this article: "Whether because of these doubts or the spiraling national debt, the feds have been reluctant to help. Something has to give."


We've got the threat of a government shutdown coming Sept. 30th; they are trying to get the debt ceiling raised yet again because we are broke (and a POTUS who says "raising our debt ceiling does not increase our debt: http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/obama-raising-debt-ceilingdoes-not-increase-our-debt-though-it-has-over).

And please with the "giving the DR money to defeat Narcos" malarkey. I live in a border state. The feds aren't doing jack-shit to combat drug trafficking.

Alex Deuce
09-22-13, 04:33
Yes. Too many black and white posters that are too self centered.

Changing its image provides more US subsidies and tax dollars from cruise ship patrons and workers. How many putas and pimps pay taxes?1. It cleans an image.

2. It allows for further private investment not having to worry about a casa next to a multi million dollar residential investment or venues

3. Families vacationing don't have to dodge mongers streaming Putas on those investments.

4. It gets the US off its back.

5. It gives local government back control of its tax base.

6. It stops pandering of impoverished women and reduces putas prices.

Alex Deuce
09-22-13, 05:16
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Berthold
09-22-13, 10:54
Yes. Too many black and white posters that are too self centered.

How many putas and pimps pay taxes?The entire dominican labor force, which does not make more than 27,5k per month does not pay income tax, and you worry about putas and pimps.

Source listin diario.

Up to DOP 330, 301 0%

DOP 330, 301. 01. 495, 450 15%

DOP 495, 450. 01. 688, 125 20%

Over DOP 688, 125. 01 25%

Iguana Six
09-22-13, 15:34
Glad you were able to get your first priorities taken care of in such short order! I'm contemplating a trip to Santo Domingo, and good, current intel is very much appreciated.Back in 2000, I made a short trip and some quick research on the primative internet gave me the low down on Lapsus, the cabanas, and a good estetica. Although the estettica was a very good opticion, it was hard to find and a cabby commented there were comparable locations much closer to the neighbgorhood I was staying in. Good times.

On this trip, I am constrained by my choice of hotels (not chica friendly) , the non-mongering coworkers who are staying at the hotel, and family members in town. Hence, I have come to appreciate GBP. Sure, it is a 'walk on the wild side' and reminds one of the Calle 6 Tico places in San Jose, but what it lacks in amenities (showers, large enough flat surfaces to do the horizontal Mambo) it makes up for in service (warm, eager to please chicas, Many of whom could be described as "cute") and price (DoP 100). I have visited Thursday, Friday, and Saturday and identified the core line-up of 6 providers and the weekend augmentation of another 2. With the exception of the big boned corn-fed gal, and the one that could play the lead in a remake of "Cleopatra Schwartz" (for you kids too young to remember the Kentucky Fried Movie, look it up on Youtube) , the rest were spinners. After paying too much and being subjected to too much propina begging, I find the GBP experience refreshing.

Yesterday afternoon I took a tiny (4'9") dark tenderoni to the back room. Unlike my Friday selection, Gabriela had never seen a female condom before, but was willing to try. She had braces, but was willing to do BBBJ. (I had interviewed Mia, who was taller, prettier, and younger, but she failed the interview when she insisted on CBJ....but just because of the braces...y'know.) Anyway, Gabriela did oral like achamp, but would have cut me off after one song had I not insisted on more, and was a real trouper given the disparity between her tiny box and my equipment.She got into it - the loud music covered up her mix of moans of pleasure and yips of pain - but she wasn't built for the big boys. She had a good time but we agreed not to repeat.


Given my limitations, GBP was a good option for me to have and has a lot going for it.

Afterwards, I walked down the block to the Nacional Supermarket, picked up some items then took a cab. Once again, I was reminded that cabs are expensive down here. No meters, and you should tell your drive where you are going and ask how much ahead of time. I suggest getting some cabbies business cards and calling them. Going to GBP, the driver got confused and I practically had to draw a strip map to get him to understand where I wanted to go after he took me to the wrong Nacional Supermarket.

I did some walking in the early evening. Leaving the Jaragua Hotel I was accosted by a shoe shine boy within my first 50 feet off hotel property but kept walking. I was hungry and stopped by a neighborhood eatery, whose cook did not report to work that day. Ate at Charlie's (#9 Felix Mariano Lluberes): delicious,but expensive, 563 pesos for grilled chicken breast, yuca, avocados, and a glass of lemonade. Walked up the block to Independencia and found some of the land marks on the Jaososua monger map. Will look for 305, and the Pastuer street casas/clubs tonight, and seee if the closed ones have re-opened.

Shamester
09-22-13, 17:21
1. It cleans an image.

2. It allows for further private investment not having to worry about a casa next to a multi million dollar residential investment or venues

3. Families vacationing don't have to dodge mongers streaming Putas on those investments.

4. It gets the US off its back.

5. It gives local government back control of its tax base.

6. It stops pandering of impoverished women and reduces putas prices.Absolutely. More tax revenue and more gov. officials accepting bribes.

Shamester
09-22-13, 17:24
It certainy looks like they're trying to clean up the Republics image as a sex tourist destination. I guess time will tell how serious they are. However, I can't see how closing casas improves the economy. I wonder where they expect these women to find comparable employment. Is Puerto Rico better off after the clean up? Considering PR is under the American flag is that a good comparison? The US needs to mind its own business and stop with the half ass interventions. Just me dos centavos!The putas can not generate the same revenue except by finding a gringo sucker boyfriend / husband.

Education or vocational training is the option.

BoricuaOnline
09-23-13, 02:54
Http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-03-21/news/puerto-rico-drugs-murders-miami/

I think you will see some interesting similarities with the Dominican RepublicThis terrible written article cause the impression that living and going to Puerto Rico is worse than going to hell. Although I know that there is drug related crime and murder rate is high if you are not into drugs or visiting troubled areas you are a lot safer here than in Dominican Republic. It is a fact that because of a wall constructed between US and Mexico borders part of the drug traffic from central and South America now moves to the USA using the Caribbean as a bridge and that arrests of drug dominican-puertorican groups have become more common in recent years.

About recent crackdown on Santo Domingo, while girls are still on need on $ they are going to find their ways to reach us customers. In 1998 Puerto Rican goverment closed and torn down a few places including Caribbeans most famous brothel, the Black Angus. Prostitution did not stopped, it just changed they way it is serviced. Massage parlors now populate the touristic area, the banking zone and the university area, they have no signs and advertise on internet as regular massage places. It is a well know fact that prostitutes populates large hotel lobby's in San Juan but they look like regular girls, you just ask a bartender and he will tell you which one is a working girl (BTW these girls are hot hot hot). Jaragua, for example, is more like San Juan hotels now. In the past Jaragua putas where more hardcore, now most of them look like regular girls, it is harder to know at first which girl is in search of customers but after a few minutes you can distinguish in most cases who is who.

OJoe55
09-24-13, 04:03
Hey guys,

I'm going to SD next month to celebrate my Birthday. I want to make it a birthday to remember with lot of lady's. I'm going to be there for two weeks. I need a plan. That's why I came to the Pro's.

Thanks

OJoe55
09-24-13, 07:15
Hi!

I'm planning a last minute trip to D. R next month. After a nasty divorce is time to have some fun! Its been 10 years since I've been to D. R. So I figure I ask the Pros'. I want to start doing my homework now, but don't know were to start. Been out of the game to long. LOL. Your expertise will be highly appreciated. I want to have the time of my life, but I want to be smart and Safe about It.

Thanks

OJoe55
09-24-13, 07:23
Hi!

I'm planning a last minute trip to DR next month. After a nasty divorce is time to have some fun! Its been 10 years since I've been to D. R. So I figure I ask the Pros'. I want to start doing my homework now, but don't know were to start. Been out of the game to long. LOL. Your expertise will be highly appreciated. I want to have the time of my life, but I want to be smart and Safe about It.

Thanks

GrownMan1
09-24-13, 14:30
It's Saturday and I was supposed to meet this lady I met on Tagged. We had been talking previously to my arrival. She lives in the area near Andy sports bar and since I was familiar with the area, she spoke english, we were not far in age, birthdays were 4 days apart, facebook friends and build chemistry, I decided to ride out with her. She was a 32 year old accountant, one son, and from her facebook pictures you can tell she was really into her family. I asked her to meet me at Andys, however she had a hard time figuring out where was Andys. She said she was with her son and give her about an hour. Cool with me, Andy is the Dominican version of Hooters and the Chicas their are sexy. In about 2 hours later she came up looking very and.

Classy with her son. (She had a down south phat ass and slender frame). They walked from her place to Andys which was about a four to five mile walk. I drove her back to her place and met father. He spoke a little English and was even familiar with my little hometown in Georgia. He volunteered to watch his grandson as we looked for a hotel. We settled in on a small hotel near the area she lived. She said she had to go back home because a father was watching her 4 year old son whom by the way she was teaching English. When her sister gets off and she can watch her son. It was about 9 o'clock pm Her sister made it home at about 3 a. M. I didn't think this chica was well organized as far as meeting men. I was trying to be patient because our conversation was good, and her ass demand my attention. But damn, she knew I was coming two weeks in advance. All I could think about was how much punta E and Brandon were gettinatwhy I was being entertained my her 4 year. She went back to the motel room with me however no sex. This really irritated me however I must admit this chica was classy, smart, and respectable. I notice she always used good English when texting or speaking to me. She said she learned in school. I can see the prideful love her father had in his eyes for her and respected it. He told me how happy he was when she received her degree in accounting.

The next day I took her and her son to breakfast. I told her I had to get back with my homies so they can see I am okay. She said she will arrangements for a babysitter today. Oh yeah she paid for the breakfast. Novia material yes. Will I see her again.yes. Did tag work for me yes. However, its great for meeting chica however, doesn't mean you are going to get laid. A chica selling pussy would have been much more organized with a 24-hour babysitter, ready to fuck and get her money.

It's now Sunday. E, Brandon and my man Justice called and said Boca Chica beach is off the chain. I didn't release steam last night so someone about is going to get it. Off to new adventures.

OldKool
09-29-13, 15:44
For guys who prefer apartment style vacations opposed to hotels. Howeaway. Com has apartment near el conde for 50 60 dollars. These are some very good deals. I have done this a few time and it was great experience. The neighborhood is decent and the locals typically friendly. They have places all over the city and country. Guest friendly is no longer and issue These deals are really good if you have a wing man or a group. There are nice affordable mutli room condo as well.

Showdown
09-30-13, 20:21
Anyone have any success meetings FL on El Conde? I do not hear it mentioned much on the board.

Also if anyone is familiar with Star of Light in Bangkok is GBP a similiar set up? I. E. Chat with the girls at the bar for a moment and sex in front of everyone? Just curious.

Showdown

Showdown
09-30-13, 20:56
Does anyone have any experience with or know who can unlock a US cell phone in the DR? Only Verizon will sell a semi unlocked phone; AT&T and T-Mobile will not unless you buy it full price. I have a Iphone 5S from T-Mobile I want unlocked.

Buscemi
09-30-13, 21:12
Does anyone have any experience with or know who can unlock a US cell phone in the DR? Only Verizon will sell a semi unlocked phone; AT&T and T-Mobile will not unless you buy it full price. I have a Iphone 5S from T-Mobile I want unlocked.Most of the phone shops are on 30 de marzo just a 5 minute walk North from el Conde.
It should not run you more than RD200 to get it unlocked.

Unless you are living there and MUST have a brand new iPhone, I would personally lock that phone in the safe and bring an unlocked QUAD band phone down I bought off eBay that I would not have a heart attack when it gets "misplaced".

Showdown
09-30-13, 21:15
Most of the phone shops are on 30 de marzo just a 5 minute walk North from el Conde.

It should not run you more than RD200 to get it unlocked.

Unless you are living there and MUST have a brand new iPhone, I would personally lock that phone in the safe and bring an unlocked QUAD band phone down I bought off eBay that I would not have a heart attack when it gets "misplaced".Yes its the brand new iphone 5S I want to have unlocked. For some reason my chicas in the DR are telling me that the iphones cannot be unlocked for use in the DR.

RocheBrazi
09-30-13, 21:20
here in germany we do not have many locked cell phones (actually t-mobile did it as well here in the past), but there are a lot shops and people on the internet that would unlock them illegal for a fee.

no clue how it is in america, you should google it.

in the dr you could ask this guy. http://www.salonecr.com/salonecr-home-english.htm

he has a shop in santo domingo near the napolitano hotel. he is actually american that live there. i wanted to repair my old iphone in his shop. i had email contact with him. on my old iphone 4 was the home button broken. when i was there i put a claro card in it and opened a wifi with the phone and logged in with my iphone 4s which was also locked at that time. that worked for me and i did not brought it to the shop for repair. but you could ask that guy if he also can unlock phones.

or do it like i did and take also your old smartphone, when it is possible with it to open a wi-fi. and log into that wi-fi with your 5s. the speed is so crappy there anyway it does not matter.


does anyone have any experience with or know who can unlock a us cell phone in the dr? only verizon will sell a semi unlocked phone; at&t and t-mobile will not unless you buy it full price. i have a iphone 5s from t-mobile i want unlocked.

RocheBrazi
09-30-13, 21:54
Unless you are living there and MUST have a brand new iPhone, I would personally lock that phone in the safe and bring an unlocked QUAD band phone down I bought off eBay that I would not have a heart attack when it gets "misplaced".The New Iphones has that new fingerprint system. At least can a chica not use it when she steal it.

But this will not work when it get stolen by a man.

http://thesword.com/you-can-unlock-your-iphone-5s-with-your-cock.html

Mr Gogo
09-30-13, 22:33
Yes its the brand new iphone 5S I want to have unlocked. For some reason my chicas in the DR are telling me that the iphones cannot be unlocked for use in the DR.I'm in the used cell phone business and the girls are correct. I don't want to go in to detail here but pose the question in the gogo forum and I will explain in detail. Guys here don't like to stray too far away from sex topics.

Briefly, the are two kinds of unlocks. 1) factory, thru Apple. 2) bootleg unlock, which means you aren't authorized. Tmobile will have to request an unlock code from Apple when you pay the phone off. Then the ESN (electronic serial number) is documented. That's authorized unlock.

Jooks
09-30-13, 22:37
Does anyone have any experience with or know who can unlock a US cell phone in the DR? Only Verizon will sell a semi unlocked phone; AT&T and T-Mobile will not unless you buy it full price. I have a Iphone 5S from T-Mobile I want unlocked.It's fairly simple to jailbreak and unlock an iPhone. Just google. Or pay someone a few hundred pesos to do it for you. Before doing so, make sure the phone companies, I. E, Claro, Orange or Viva, have a SIM for the 5s. I don't know if it's the same size as the iPhone 5. I'm fairly certain the 5s is not for sale yet in the DR and if the SIM is a unique size, you won't be able to use it in the DR.

Manizales911
09-30-13, 22:48
Yes its the brand new iphone 5S I want to have unlocked. For some reason my chicas in the DR are telling me that the iphones cannot be unlocked for use in the DR.I had an IPhone 4s unlocked in Puerto Plata last week. 500 pesos. I wish I hadn't done it because I am leery about taking it out of my pocket, it is a thief magnet for sure. Just get a cheap phone off of Ebay and bring that.

Jooks
09-30-13, 22:55
For guys who prefer apartment style vacations opposed to hotels. Howeaway. Com has apartment near el conde for 50 60 dollars. These are some very good deals. I have done this a few time and it was great experience. The neighborhood is decent and the locals typically friendly. They have places all over the city and country. Guest friendly is no longer and issue These deals are really good if you have a wing man or a group. There are nice affordable mutli room condo as well.There was an article about a month or so again in the travel section of the NY Times about either homeaway or a similar company, I. E, flipkey. Com, vacationrentals. Com, etc. The reporter experimented by trying to rent apartments in NYC. The outcome was very mixed. Most people didn't respond, one person canceled at the last moment (there's no practical recourse) , photos were deceiving, etc. The reporter also had good experiences. So, it can be risky unless you can somehow verify the veracity of the owner. Many of the sites offer reviews so you can get a feel for the owner's integrity.

Having said that, I rented an apartment last week in Sosua for a week through homeaway. While there were a couple of minor problems, all in all it was an excellent experience, I saved a lot of money and had a real apartment to live in big enough for 2, completely furnished. However, the rentals were controlled by the manager of the condo complex who came recommended, so it wasn't so risky. I imagine each place has their own rules. Here, you were allowed to have chicas visit but they couldn't use the pool.

The point is, you can great deals but you need to be careful and do your homework. I took a look at Santo Domingo and see apartments in the colonial zone for $60 / night. Remember, there's no tax but there could be other fees. Like, I was hit with electric. Granted, it wasn't much for a week, but it was never discussed until I got there.

Mr Enternational
09-30-13, 23:45
Does anyone have any experience with or know who can unlock a US cell phone in the DR? Only Verizon will sell a semi unlocked phone; AT&T and T-Mobile will not unless you buy it full price. I have a Iphone 5S from T-Mobile I want unlocked.That is strange. T-Mobile sent me the unlock code for my phone as soon as I bought it on the payment plan. I have been with them since 2002 though. Maybe you are a new customer?

Mr Gogo
09-30-13, 23:54
That is strange. T-Mobile sent me the unlock code for my phone as soon as I bought it on the payment plan. I have been with them since 2002 though. Maybe you are a new customer?They just started it. They said last week that I had to pay the phone off to get the code at the store. But the 611 number gave it to me by email 24 hours later. But I've been with them since 2000.

Showdown
10-01-13, 00:00
That is strange. T-Mobile sent me the unlock code for my phone as soon as I bought it on the payment plan. I have been with them since 2002 though. Maybe you are a new customer?They are not unlocking them until you have the phone for atleast 90 days. That is all of the carriers. I have a Sprint phone. I am just worried about getting it unlocked and somehow the person unlocking it screws up the phone somehow.

Mr Gogo
10-01-13, 00:02
I had an IPhone 4s unlocked in Puerto Plata last week. 500 pesos. I wish I hadn't done it because I am leery about taking it out of my pocket, it is a thief magnet for sure. Just get a cheap phone off of Ebay and bring that.Nice phone I sold one last week. But don't do the Apple software updates if it is not an Apple unlock. This guy didn't listen and did the itunes software update and Apple recognized it as a bootleg unlock and locked it back down.

Showdown my post probably got buried but pm me if you need info.

Mr Enternational
10-01-13, 01:04
They are not unlocking them until you have the phone for atleast 90 days. That is all of the carriers. I have a Sprint phone. I am just worried about getting it unlocked and somehow the person unlocking it screws up the phone somehow.Yeah. I remember it was 90 days before, but with my most recent purchase they gave me the code right away. T-mobile also unlocked a friend's right away last week as well.

Brother P
10-01-13, 01:07
They are not unlocking them until you have the phone for atleast 90 days. That is all of the carriers. I have a Sprint phone. I am just worried about getting it unlocked and somehow the person unlocking it screws up the phone somehow.I'm also with sprint. Sprint is not gsm, so I don't think it will work in the DR. Att and t mobile are gsm.

Showdown
10-01-13, 02:24
I'm also with sprint. Sprint is not gsm, so I don't think it will work in the DR. Att and t mobile are gsm.This topic is getting alot of post LOL. Everyone has different answers.

Maybe someone can definatively answer this question:

1. Will a Sprint Iphone 5C work in the DR? That is if you take it to a local shop and have it unlocked. Does it matter what carrier (Orange, Claro etc)?

Kman1
10-01-13, 03:48
This topic is getting alot of post LOL. Everyone has different answers.

Maybe someone can definatively answer this question:

1. Will a Sprint Iphone 5C work in the DR? That is if you take it to a local shop and have it unlocked. Does it matter what carrier (Orange, Claro etc)?No. Your only option is to call Sprint and pay international roaming to use that 5C in the DR. The Sprint IPhone 5c has a sim card slot used for 4G. I am not sure if that will support a 3G GSM sim and when I talked to Sprint recently they said they do not permit using other carriers sim in their phones which means they wont or cant unlock it easily.

Havana927
10-01-13, 04:39
This topic is getting alot of post LOL. Everyone has different answers.

Maybe someone can definatively answer this question:

1. Will a Sprint Iphone 5C work in the DR? That is if you take it to a local shop and have it unlocked. Does it matter what carrier (Orange, Claro etc)?Just go to ebay and buy an ATT phone. Orange will unlock it for 400 pesos and 50 pesos for a sim card. For the money sprint is going to charge you for international. Is the price of two ebay cells.

Sobaje
10-01-13, 13:32
I got invited by a Chica from Latin Cupid. And ya know from that site you can't trust anything.

Singlespartydr (dot) com.

Any info?

Knowledge
10-02-13, 00:43
Why don't you ask Sprint?


This topic is getting alot of post LOL. Everyone has different answers.

Maybe someone can definatively answer this question:

1. Will a Sprint Iphone 5C work in the DR? That is if you take it to a local shop and have it unlocked. Does it matter what carrier (Orange, Claro etc)?

Showdown
10-02-13, 02:29
Are there any other GBP like establishments in Santo Domingo? That is cheap, a bit on the sleazy side etc? I am getting in around 9pm and am looking for some action before hooking up with the Tagged girlfriend. I want to try out GBP and provide a detailed report but it seems like it closes at 11. I read on another website something about a place called Pink Pony or something like that.

Showdown
10-02-13, 02:30
Why don't you ask Sprint?Of course Sprint does not want you to take the phone there so they will tell you "no it is not possible". BTW-the Iphone 5C and 5S are both CDM and GSM phones. I'll be sure to report on if and how I got it unlocked etc when I am there this weekend.

Shamester
10-02-13, 16:35
This topic is getting alot of post LOL. Everyone has different answers.

Maybe someone can definatively answer this question:

1. Will a Sprint Iphone 5C work in the DR? That is if you take it to a local shop and have it unlocked. Does it matter what carrier (Orange, Claro etc)?My suggestion is to buy an unlocked phone from the US. Suggest either Best Buy or Amazon. Read the user comments.

Purchased a Samba from LG at Best Buy. Purchased SIM cards in Mexico City and El Salvador. Phone worked really well with texting.

Rit Teach
10-03-13, 03:54
They are not unlocking them until you have the phone for atleast 90 days. That is all of the carriers. I have a Sprint phone. I am just worried about getting it unlocked and somehow the person unlocking it screws up the phone somehow.They unlocked my 4s iPhone (sprint) and it works here, (I use claro). I live here 8 months a year.

OldKool
10-03-13, 15:17
One of my good cupid girls who lives in Sosua is using her sister as bait. Her sister is 18 and cute. My chica tells me I can have both of them. This is a bucket project that is hard to turn down. I plan to get an appartment in sd and have fun with the girls. The older sister is an all access girl who will go all night if you want. I have no idea how the little sister will be but you never know. I have been checking porn sites to get instruction on how to have a 3 some with sisters. The idea has me very excited.

LilJoey
10-03-13, 15:46
One of my good cupid girls who lives in Sosua is using her sister as bait. Her sister is 18 and cute. My chica tells me I can have both of them. This is a bucket project that is hard to turn down. I plan to get an appartment and have fun with the girls. The older sister is an all access girl who will go all night if you want. I have no idea how the little sister will be but you never know. I have been checking porn sites to get instruction on how to have a 3 some with sisters. The idea has me very excited.One idea that has always worked well for me with two girls, is to lay on my back and get one of the girls up over my face so I can lick her pussy, while the other girl busies herself with blow job, and then when time is right gets on cowgirl to ride and fuck me, while I am making the first girl scream from the pleasure of having her pussy licked. The effect on each girl from what I am doing to the other, builds up the excitement of both. For example, the girl I am licking is facing me so I can see her breasts and her face when I lick her, and she can't see the other girl except by turning around. But she can hear. So when she hears the other girl start moaning when she is fucking, it is a turn on for her. Similarly, when the girl who is giving me a blow job hears the girl moaning and screaming and cumming from her pussy being licked (rather skillfully) , it is a big turn on for her, which I can feel in the energy of her blow job and her cowgirl fucking. The only negative is that I can't see the girl who is fucking me, but that helps me last longer and keep fucking her longer.

When I want to, I can simply switch the girls position and lick the girl I fucked, and fuck the girl I licked. They have each waited for their turn at the other's position, and are excited with anticipation.

Another thing you can do with two girls, if they will kiss each other, is to have one lay on her back and have the second girl get on her hands and knees in doggie position, and to lick and fuck her in doggie position, while she licks the girl laying on her back. If the girls are not bisexuals, and won't lick each other, then make sure you are prepared and have brought along a good vibrator dildo with which the girl you are fucking can pleasure the girl laying on her back. The "sisters" thing might complicate this a little. Find out in advance if they feel comfortable touching each other with their hands at least. Then you can suggest, what's the difference touching with the hand, and touching with a vibrator. It will be fun for the girls to use it on each other, and fun for you to watch them have orgasms from it.

Just some pornographic thoughts of mine, based on your question of how to fuck two sisters. I'm assuming you want to do something more interesting than simply do them one after the other, and you need some way to play with them simultaneously.

QUESTION:

On a different note, I haven't been back to Santo Domingo in a year. It seems the Intercontinental V Centenario has changed it's name to Crowne Plaza. Anyone know if they still let one take girls in up to one's room? Previously I was able to get one girl up free, because I paid for a two person room, but after that it was $25 each girl I took upstairs. What's their policy now? Same? Different? I liked this hotel because it was literally around the corner from all the casas on Pasteur street.

LJ

Frannie
10-03-13, 16:12
I have no idea how the little sister will be but you never know. I have been checking porn sites to get instruction on how to have a 3 some with sisters. The idea has me very excited.I have no idea what advice you can get from porn sites on the matter, but it is very doubtful whether these sisters are going to do a full on lesbian scene for your amusement, though perhaps they will fake it a bit. I think you will be disappointed. I think you are being played here.

Showdown
10-03-13, 18:13
On the advice of Mr E I am going to rent from Nelly at the airport. Does anyone have any experience with the buying Nelly's Collission Damage Waiver insurance? The insurance costs as much per day as the rental car does. They have a basic that is $12 USD per day and the superior which is $20 per day. Given some of the horror stories I hear about renting cars in the DR does purchasing this insurance make sense?

Also where are some nice places to go with the two Tagged girls I am hooking up with outside of Santo Domingo? Beaches, mountains etc. Looking to do more than sit in their houses all day and screw LOL.

Showdown

OldKool
10-03-13, 19:04
I do not expect them to do any lesbian stuff. I would never expect that. That is why I checked out some sites to get some idea how to conduct a 3 some with sisters. I am not on your kink level yet frannie but I have known this lady for a long time. We are good friends as well as fuck buddies. I think she worked at BB years ago. She knows how to make a man happy. For newbies if you hook up with a girl you like get her to meet you in a different city if possible. You will have more control and less likely to run into her old boy friends. I stayed at a girls house once and in two days met both her babies daddies. It s a real vacation for the girls and they are more relaxed.

QUOTE=Frannie; 1479482]I have no idea what advice you can get from porn sites on the matter, but it is very doubtful whether these sisters are going to do a full on lesbian scene for your amusement, though perhaps they will fake it a bit. I think you will be disappointed. I think you are being played here.[/QUOTE]

Rjsss212
10-03-13, 23:11
The insurance won't help as the cost to repair the vehicle will be much less than the compensation to the "victim" and all the hands that will suddenly be in your pocket from officials attempting to "help".

And your CC insurance is useless as the rental company will never provide the necessary info / paperwork to satisfy them and as such will disqualify the coverage.


On the advice of Mr E I am going to rent from Nelly at the airport. Does anyone have any experience with the buying Nelly's Collission Damage Waiver insurance? The insurance costs as much per day as the rental car does. They have a basic that is $12 USD per day and the superior which is $20 per day. Given some of the horror stories I hear about renting cars in the DR does purchasing this insurance make sense?

Also where are some nice places to go with the two Tagged girls I am hooking up with outside of Santo Domingo? Beaches, mountains etc. Looking to do more than sit in their houses all day and screw LOL.

Showdown

Knowledge
10-04-13, 03:50
Coverage varies by credit card company, check with yours and be sure to make it clear you need coverage in the Dominican Republic.

There is no harm in asking questions about insurance here but you should get the facts from your credit card company. I once made a claim for the cost of fixing a bumper that was missing from a Avis car when I got back to a parking lot by Plaza Central. I don't even know how it happened but not hard to guess. Anyway, the cost was something like US$1,200. Avis charged it to my credit card. I made a claim using documents Avis gave me. I got a check from my credit card company three or four months later. I had to pay my credit card bill including the repair cost in the meantime.


The insurance won't help as the cost to repair the vehicle will be much less than the compensation to the "victim" and all the hands that will suddenly be in your pocket from officials attempting to "help".

And your CC insurance is useless as the rental company will never provide the necessary info / paperwork to satisfy them and as such will disqualify the coverage.

Cagep1967
10-04-13, 22:22
The insurance won't help as the cost to repair the vehicle will be much less than the compensation to the "victim" and all the hands that will suddenly be in your pocket from officials attempting to "help".

And your CC insurance is useless as the rental company will never provide the necessary info / paperwork to satisfy them and as such will disqualify the coverage.For damage I've used AMEX twice in DR. Once I was drunk off my ass and backed into a pole. I parked the car and next morning I explained to AVIS that someone must of hit my parked car. Filed the claim with AMEX everything was paid except Thrifty tried to put rental taxes on the repair and AMEX caught it and lowered the payment to them. They tried to charge me for the difference and AMEX refunded that money and put a hold for 4 years on Thrifty being able to charge my card.

Second time, I was driving and the power steering got tight. I brought the car into AVIS and they gave me a new one. About 1 month later I get charged almost $400 for a repair, they said I damaged the under carriage of the car. I disputed the charge (wrong thing to do) , AMEX eventually denied the dispute and told me to go via the insurance. AVIS had sent all of the paperwork to AMEX on the dispute, I opened a claim with the insurance department of AMEX and in less than a week the claim was paid to my card.

I have a personal liability plan that supposedly covers me anywhere in the world and hopefully if I get into an accident here they will cover me. I've yet to try. I've also tried to get a personal liability plan here via Universal Seguros, and was told they do not have such coverage.

I will probably buy a car in the near future as renting is losing it's appeal. I can get a new SUV via a personal loan in the states for about 5. 25% interest, now it's just going through the BS about getting a good deal. Car's are crazy expensive here. Even very old ones.

Knowledge
10-05-13, 21:31
Don't shoot the messenger. Today's edition of the national afternoon daily newspaper has a big story about people collecting expired canned goods from the Duquesa dump. The dump is a long running scandal. Why do I bring this up. All of you who think it's a good idea to pinch a few pennies looking for the cheapest restaurant you can find.

Jooks
10-06-13, 19:46
After getting an excellent deal on an apartment in Sosua for a week, I decided to look around Santo Domingo for an apartment for an upcoming visit in November. I was pleasantly surprised to find a plethora of apartments starting at under $70 / day. And $70 gets a very nice apartment in a good area, I. E, Malecon, colonial zone, etc. Bearing in mind that hotels charge around 30% in taxes and other surcharges and there are generally no other charges for apartments except for cleaning, the deal seems even more fantastic. (A $70 apt. Is roughly the same price as a $55 hotel plus taxes.) Apartments can be rented from 2 days to long term. I'm basing my info on tripadvisor.

So, my question is how come this isn't brought up as an option more often? Am I missing something?

Alex Deuce
10-06-13, 20:12
After getting an excellent deal on an apartment in Sosua for a week, I decided to look around Santo Domingo for an apartment for an upcoming visit in November. I was pleasantly surprised to find a plethora of apartments starting at under $70 / day. And $70 gets a very nice apartment in a good area, I. E, Malecon, colonial zone, etc. Bearing in mind that hotels charge around 30% in taxes and other surcharges and there are generally no other charges for apartments except for cleaning, the deal seems even more fantastic. (A $70 apt. Is roughly the same price as a $55 hotel plus taxes.) Apartments can be rented from 2 days to long term. I'm basing my info on tripadvisor.

So, my question is how come this isn't brought up as an option more often? Am I missing something?It's been mentioned several times; however, it's hard to get those rates for less than a weeks rental commitment. There were several gorgeous recently renovated apartments in the colonial zone averaging $45 a day but you had to rent for a month. My current rental in the Malecon center is about that including my boys half as we share the two bedroom rent. Jao was very good about posting deals until his recent demise. Also, a lot of guys are in, skeet and out so they have no use for them. I still run about but when I'm just doing volume, I never take them to my apartment. I just get a room at the Mystik and alike.

The past weekend was pretty funny with the casas closing and drastic increase in SW volume. One things for certain the casino and SW quality has increased significantly. Definitely buyers market.

Member #4643
10-06-13, 23:35
Walked up the block to Independencia and found some of the land marks on the Jaososua monger map. Will look for 305, and the Pastuer street casas/clubs tonight, and see if the closed ones have re-opened.I have been patiently waiting since this post for news as to what has happened to my favorite clubs. Actually, I prefer girls from Tagged or Badoo, but I find it comforting that in a pinch, I can always take a cab to 305 and fuck a stunner. Like Iguana Six, I have had good times at GBP, but the hours are limited and its a bit out of the way for me.

I am supposed to go back to Sto Domingo in a few weeks, but if the clubs are closed, I am re thinking my plans. Does anyone know which clubs are still closed?

Charles Pooter
10-07-13, 00:43
Don't shoot the messenger. Today's edition of the national afternoon daily newspaper has a big story about people collecting expired canned goods from the Duquesa dump. The dump is a long running scandal. Why do I bring this up. All of you who think it's a good idea to pinch a few pennies looking for the cheapest restaurant you can find.If you have confidence that the expensive restaurants would not do the same, you know little about the DR. Dishonesty, penny-pinching, short-sighted decisions and total ignorance about hygiene are not limited to the lower classes.

My uncle was a health inspector in London, UK. He had some disturbing stories to tell of squalor and cut corners in the most exclusive hotels like the Ritz and Savoy. Somehow I don't think the DR would come out a whole lot better.

OldKool
10-07-13, 00:50
I just posted last week about the great deals in Homeaway. Com. On my last trip I had 2 lame wingmen. We rented a 3 bedroom penthouse apartment for 120 a night. The place was fabulous 5 bathrooms on the 11th floor not far from the Blue mall. In the US it would be 500 a night. These deals can be found all over the DR.


After getting an excellent deal on an apartment in Sosua for a week, I decided to look around Santo Domingo for an apartment for an upcoming visit in November. I was pleasantly surprised to find a plethora of apartments starting at under $70 / day. And $70 gets a very nice apartment in a good area, I. E, Malecon, colonial zone, etc. Bearing in mind that hotels charge around 30% in taxes and other surcharges and there are generally no other charges for apartments except for cleaning, the deal seems even more fantastic. (A $70 apt. Is roughly the same price as a $55 hotel plus taxes.) Apartments can be rented from 2 days to long term. I'm basing my info on tripadvisor.

So, my question is how come this isn't brought up as an option more often? Am I missing something?

Mr Enternational
10-07-13, 01:04
If you have confidence that the expensive restaurants would not do the same, you know little about the DR. Dishonesty, penny-pinching, short-sighted decisions and total ignorance about hygiene are not limited to the lower classes.I guess the OP has never seen the movie "Waiting".

Kman1
10-07-13, 03:48
. Jao was very good about posting deals until his recent demise.When did this happen and any ideas how? I missed it if it were mentioned in the forum. May his soul rest in peace.

OldKool
10-07-13, 05:04
Did something happen to Jao.

OTE=Kman1; 1480977]When did this happen and any ideas how? I missed it if it were mentioned in the forum. May his soul rest in peace.[/QUOTE]

Llttf
10-07-13, 05:29
Did something happen to Jao.

When did this happen and any ideas how? I missed it if it were mentioned in the forum. May his soul rest in peace.[/QUOTE]Yes he moved to eyesoc where he happily post tons of mostly outdated information.

Alex Deuce
10-07-13, 06:23
Yes he moved to eyesoc where he happily post tons of mostly outdated information.[/QUOTE]That's not true. I found my current rental and had a choice of some great options thanks to his advice. Joa and others are on the non-pro scene and venture into p4p when friends come to town. Half the posters are to hard headed or impatient for Santo Domingo to take the time to listen.

Knowledge
10-08-13, 00:16
It's not about whether the restaurant is expensive or not. I avoid places if I don't know the owner. I mostly cook at home. I agree the problem cuts across all classes.


If you have confidence that the expensive restaurants would not do the same, you know little about the DR. Dishonesty, penny-pinching, short-sighted decisions and total ignorance about hygiene are not limited to the lower classes.

My uncle was a health inspector in London, UK. He had some disturbing stories to tell of squalor and cut corners in the most exclusive hotels like the Ritz and Savoy. Somehow I don't think the DR would come out a whole lot better.

Showdown
10-08-13, 14:36
I will be staying one night at a hotel in El Conde. I recall their was an excellent monger map but I cannot find the post. Can someone post the link to the monger map post? Thank you.

Showdown

Amocuba
10-08-13, 22:37
One of the girls from Santo Domingo.

Amocuba
10-08-13, 22:55
A few more photos.

Member #4643
10-09-13, 00:12
I will be staying one night at a hotel in El Conde. I recall their was an excellent monger map but I cannot find the post. Can someone post the link to the monger map post? Thank you.

ShowdownHttps://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43

Amocuba
10-09-13, 13:14
Https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43Thanks for the map. I arrive in S. D. Next week. This will come in handy.

Showdown
10-11-13, 13:41
I read on another website about a place near El Conde called Pink Pony. Evidently it is much like GBP. Anyone have any information about this place?

Showdown

Parkinsons
10-11-13, 16:59
I read on another website about a place near El Conde called Pink Pony. Evidently it is much like GBP. Anyone have any information about this place?

ShowdownWent there 2 yrs ago, almost same set up and pricing as GBP. Look at my old post. I don't remember it being near El Conde at all. Definitely not within walking distance. Check the monger map again.

And also to chime in on your earlier cell phone discussion, don't bring your brand new iPhone to the DR. Buy an unlocked GSM android phone from Amazon. You can get a brand new in box one with Android 2. 3 for $70. Use it and give it to a chica for her services rendered when you leave the country.

Cagep1967
10-11-13, 19:43
i showed up yesterday aroun 5pm, lot's of girls but the talent was not what it was the last 2 times i went. they've updated the private areas with white drapes and black lights, they have some new white high top banquettes. i picked lulu, she had a nice body, real firm and was pretty around a 7 on my scale. bbbj to completion (as that is my thing). it started off good, but she must of got tired and started to use too much hand. i insisted on more mouth, she obliged, repositioned herself and went to town. finished promptly in her mouth, she took about half the load. strange thing is she didn't spit right away, she got a baby wipe, cleaned me up then went into the adjoining bathroom to spit.

anyway, my novia is in the university and i'm going out in a few minutes to run some errands and have another go at gbp.

i will report if the talent is better on friday afternoons, btw they are now open to 12m as one of the girls told me.

later.

Showdown
10-12-13, 00:07
I have learned exactly the hows and whys of using USA cell phones (Apple 5S and 5C) in the DR after being down their last week. This applies to using a DR SIM card in a USA cell phone (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint) that is under contract. The phone carriers use different wireless technologies called CDMA and GSM (read up on these). If you buy an Iphone directly from Apple

At full price it is already unlocked.

For Sprint and T-Mobile their is no way to unblock those phones for use in the DR. I went to several shops and they could not do it or attempted (lie) to say they could-for 5000 to 8000 pesos (ridiculous). Evidently Sprint and T-Mobile will only unblock the phones after 60-90 days (I have gotten conflicting reports on exactly how long before they will unblock it) of usage from when youfirst activate the phone with them. And even afterwards I have read that Sprint and T-Mobile will still give you a hard time when you want to unlock the phone. The Iphone 5C I had was from Sprint. It can connect to wifi. But that is it.

FYI-when a wireless carrier "unlocks" a phone what they actually do is contact Apple and ask them to do some electronic things that makes this possible.

I also noticed something interesting on Craigslist. When people are buying Iphones on Craigslist they always say they WILL NOT buy Iphones from Sprint and T-Mobile. This is because of the unlocking issue and the different wireless technologies used.

For Verizon their Iphones, beginning with the 4S, are already unlocked. This is not because Verizon is nice. Rather it is because the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) forced Verizon to do it because it was using a special spectrum for its LTE service. Specifically the specific spectrum that Verizon uses for LTE — the 700MHz "C Block," the largest and most lucrative of five blocks in the 700MHz range auctioned in 2008-came with the caveat that phones that use that spectrum had to be sold unlocked. Keep in mind that only the GSM function is unlocked. That is you can use the cellular service without having to do anything to the phone. You cannot however get data unless you do some type of jailbreak (you can get data when you connect to wifi however).

Their seems to be no problem unlocking AT&T Iphones in the DR. However Iphones DO NOT come unlocked from AT&T unlike Verizon.

To summarize:

*The only Iphone's (4S and newer) that will work in the DR without any unlocking are phones from Verizon. You will only get cellular and not data.

*AT&T phones can be unlocked in the DR.

*Sprint and T-Mobile phones cannot be unlocked at all without the carrier doing it.

Help this helps others when using their phones in the DR.

Side note-the Samsung Galaxy series phones from Verizon will work with cellular and data right out of the box. No unlocking necessary.

Showdown

Kman1
10-12-13, 02:49
Wow, you spent a lot of time researching iphones, good for you. Hope you had a good time with the girls, anything to report there?

I never used cellular service in the DR, only used my phone to take pics. CDMA and GSM are disparate 3G and pre 3G technologies. With 4G all the carriers are merging towards the same LTE technology which evolved out of GSM (3GPP standards). There are a few other flavors of intermediate 4G like Sprint's Wimax and T-Mobile's HSPA+ but eventually everyone is going towards LTE. I would be surprised if T-Mobile's unlocked phone did not work in the DR but who knows with all the changes.

With T-Mobile you probably wont need to unlock or put a new sim anymore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/10/technology/t-mobile-to-make-it-cheaper-to-make-calls-while-abroad.html


I have learned exactly the hows and whys of using USA cell phones (Apple 5S and 5C) in the DR after being down their last week. This applies to using a DR SIM card in a USA cell phone (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint) that is under contract. The phone carriers use different wireless technologies called CDMA and GSM (read up on these). If you buy an Iphone directly from Apple

At full price it is already unlocked.

For Sprint and T-Mobile their is no way to unblock those phones for use in the DR. I went to several shops and they could not do it or attempted (lie) to say they could-for 5000 to 8000 pesos (ridiculous). Evidently Sprint and T-Mobile will only unblock the phones after 60-90 days (I have gotten conflicting reports on exactly how long before they will unblock it) of usage from when youfirst activate the phone with them. And even afterwards I have read that Sprint and T-Mobile will still give you a hard time when you want to unlock the phone. The Iphone 5C I had was from Sprint. It can connect to wifi. But that is it.

FYI-when a wireless carrier "unlocks" a phone what they actually do is contact Apple and ask them to do some electronic things that makes this possible.

I also noticed something interesting on Craigslist. When people are buying Iphones on Craigslist they always say they WILL NOT buy Iphones from Sprint and T-Mobile. This is because of the unlocking issue and the different wireless technologies used.

For Verizon their Iphones, beginning with the 4S, are already unlocked. This is not because Verizon is nice. Rather it is because the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) forced Verizon to do it because it was using a special spectrum for its LTE service. Specifically the specific spectrum that Verizon uses for LTE — the 700MHz "C Block," the largest and most lucrative of five blocks in the 700MHz range auctioned in 2008-came with the caveat that phones that use that spectrum had to be sold unlocked. Keep in mind that only the GSM function is unlocked. That is you can use the cellular service without having to do anything to the phone. You cannot however get data unless you do some type of jailbreak (you can get data when you connect to wifi however).

Their seems to be no problem unlocking AT&T Iphones in the DR. However Iphones DO NOT come unlocked from AT&T unlike Verizon.

To summarize:

*The only Iphone's (4S and newer) that will work in the DR without any unlocking are phones from Verizon. You will only get cellular and not data.

*AT&T phones can be unlocked in the DR.

*Sprint and T-Mobile phones cannot be unlocked at all without the carrier doing it.

Help this helps others when using their phones in the DR.

Side note-the Samsung Galaxy series phones from Verizon will work with cellular and data right out of the box. No unlocking necessary.

Showdown

EarlOHara
10-12-13, 04:21
I really would appreciate some info on P4P in Santo Domingo, as apposed to all this BS about phones and other unrelated info. I am traveling to Santo Domingo next month for Thanksgiving weekend and will be staying in Boca Chica. Would appreciate someone posting actual info on current P4P situations I. E. Casas, or other places to pick up a pro and pricing. I prefer Incall, unless someone has a number and pic of some sexy chica they'd share. I prefer a young looking spinner personally. Feel free to respond to this post or send me a private message as to not clutter this page any further. Of course someone else might want the info too.

BogieMaker
10-12-13, 07:58
I have learned exactly the hows and whys of using USA cell phones (Apple 5S and 5C) in the DR after being down their last week. This applies to using a DR SIM card in a USA cell phone (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint) that is under contract. The phone carriers use different wireless technologies called CDMA and GSM (read up on these). If you buy an Iphone directly from Apple

At full price it is already unlocked.

For Sprint and T-Mobile their is no way to unblock those phones for use in the DR. I went to several shops and they could not do it or attempted (lie) to say they could-for 5000 to 8000 pesos (ridiculous). Evidently Sprint and T-Mobile will only unblock the phones after 60-90 days (I have gotten conflicting reports on exactly how long before they will unblock it) of usage from when youfirst activate the phone with them. And even afterwards I have read that Sprint and T-Mobile will still give you a hard time when you want to unlock the phone. The Iphone 5C I had was from Sprint. It can connect to wifi. But that is it.

FYI-when a wireless carrier "unlocks" a phone what they actually do is contact Apple and ask them to do some electronic things that makes this possible.

I also noticed something interesting on Craigslist. When people are buying Iphones on Craigslist they always say they WILL NOT buy Iphones from Sprint and T-Mobile. This is because of the unlocking issue and the different wireless technologies used.

For Verizon their Iphones, beginning with the 4S, are already unlocked. This is not because Verizon is nice. Rather it is because the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) forced Verizon to do it because it was using a special spectrum for its LTE service. Specifically the specific spectrum that Verizon uses for LTE — the 700MHz "C Block," the largest and most lucrative of five blocks in the 700MHz range auctioned in 2008-came with the caveat that phones that use that spectrum had to be sold unlocked. Keep in mind that only the GSM function is unlocked. That is you can use the cellular service without having to do anything to the phone. You cannot however get data unless you do some type of jailbreak (you can get data when you connect to wifi however).

Their seems to be no problem unlocking AT&T Iphones in the DR. However Iphones DO NOT come unlocked from AT&T unlike Verizon.

To summarize:

*The only Iphone's (4S and newer) that will work in the DR without any unlocking are phones from Verizon. You will only get cellular and not data.

*AT&T phones can be unlocked in the DR.

*Sprint and T-Mobile phones cannot be unlocked at all without the carrier doing it.

Help this helps others when using their phones in the DR.

Side note-the Samsung Galaxy series phones from Verizon will work with cellular and data right out of the box. No unlocking necessary.

ShowdownIf you have a At&T T-Moble GSM Samsung S3 or Note II you can use this method to unlock your phone. I have successfully used this on two AT&T phones.

Unlock your Samsung Galaxy S3, Note 2 and Ruby. Free. No Rooting. No Hacking.

Just dial the following keys *197328640#

Main Menu.

[1] UMTS

[1] Debug Screen

[8] Phone Control

[6] Network Lock

Options [3]Perso SHA256 OFF

(after choosing this option, wait about 30 seconds, then go back one step by pressing the Menu button then select Back, now you are in

[6] Network Lock then choose

[4] NW Lock NV Data INITIALLIZ. Wait for a minute then reboot your phone.

Your milage may vary so please read the thread below before attempting to unlock.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176719

OldKool
10-12-13, 12:13
You can buy a cheap phone for $15 and have a few hundred minutes of use. You can call internationally but this does eat up minutes. It is a very simple and effective solution. You get a Dominicn phone number you can give to chicas you like. I enjoy getting calls from the ladies while in the DR. It really adds the the player affect. Unless you are giving a phone to one of your honeys why bother.

Showdown
10-12-13, 14:05
You can buy a cheap phone for $15 and have a few hundred minutes of use. You can call internationally but this does eat up minutes. It is a very simple and effective solution. You get a Dominicn phone number you can give to chicas you like. I enjoy getting calls from the ladies while in the DR. It really adds the the player affect. Unless you are giving a phone to one of your honeys why bother.No one was harmed in the pursuit of the knowledge pertaining to cell phone use in the DR LOL.

This was an academic exercise for me. I wanted the knowledge. I obtained it and decided to share it with the board. Their are certainly others like me who wanted to know this information. Frankly my smartphone is important to me for work and other reasons and I do not want to use a cheap phone when I am there. As for my girl I got her an iphone because I wanted her to have one. Mychoice. No gun was put to my head.

Knowledge
10-12-13, 16:29
Does the search function on this page not work? I know the facts about cell phone service have not changed much in recent years. This latest flurry of phone questions and answers is not nearly the first. Not a big deal I guess. Anyway, the guy who asked about incall, please check out xexylia. Com and tell everybody how you make out. That would be new information. Some of the stuff guys are writing on their facebook page has me laughing my ass off. They are on Romulo Betancourt at Churchill.


No one was harmed in the pursuit of the knowledge pertaining to cell phone use in the DR LOL.

This was an academic exercise for me. I wanted the knowledge. I obtained it and decided to share it with the board. Their are certainly others like me who wanted to know this information. Frankly my smartphone is important to me for work and other reasons and I do not want to use a cheap phone when I am there. As for my girl I got her an iphone because I wanted her to have one. Mychoice. No gun was put to my head.

Chris Long
10-12-13, 21:39
I really would appreciate some info on P4P in Santo Domingo, as apposed to all this BS about phones and other unrelated info. I am traveling to Santo Domingo next month for Thanksgiving weekend and will be staying in Boca Chica. Would appreciate someone posting actual info on current P4P situations I. E. Casas, or other places to pick up a pro and pricing. I prefer Incall, unless someone has a number and pic of some sexy chica they'd share. I prefer a young looking spinner personally. Feel free to respond to this post or send me a private message as to not clutter this page any further. Of course someone else might want the info too.Yes let's get back to substantial P4P information, where to find, how much to pay and where to stay is what I and others want to know. In that spirit here is the number of the driver / pimp / dealer I used when I was in Santo Domingo Fabio 809 488 8240 Number posted with his permission. He speaks English and can bring some attractive 18, 19 year old girls to you. Hes pretty good as far as drivers go I used him extensivly when I was in SD, just let him know up front you know what the prices are and your not going to pay an extra commision for him taking you someplace you already know about.

Write up a report giving detailed mongering information about your stay in Boca Chica, I'll be there in Feburary.

Chris

Buscemi
10-13-13, 15:33
You can buy a cheap phone for $15 and have a few hundred minutes of use. You can call internationally but this does eat up minutes. It is a very simple and effective solution. You get a Dominicn phone number you can give to chicas you like. I enjoy getting calls from the ladies while in the DR. It really adds the the player affect. Unless you are giving a phone to one of your honeys why bother.Once again, Old Fool, you are a plethora of misinformation!

Just for the record, it costs exactly the same / minute to call Nueva Yol from Santo Domingo, as it does Santiago from a Dominican cell phone.

I use GOOGLE VOICE on WIFI to call The States for FREE, on my Gringo phone with roaming turned OFF to avoid a bill.
You can only "activate" a new GOOGLE Voice account from a US IP address, so it must be downloaded/activated prior to trip.
You can make/receive FREE calls & SMS, then get a cheapie local cell.

Tequila Shots
10-13-13, 18:25
Looking to do some weekend mongering in Santo Domingo in November. I do not think finding women will be the problem, but my concern is finding a decent hotel that is girl-friendly.

A place like the Renaissance Santo Domingo Jaragua Hotel & Casino could work for me (only $70 per night). However, I was reading on-line that the hotel is not girl friendly. So I will have to pass on this hotel. Any suggestions for a similar hotel. I only require a hotel bar and a swimming pool. I would hope that I can find a place for $75-$100 per night?

Thanks brothers!

EarlOHara
10-13-13, 20:50
Thanks Chris,

Much appreciated. Just out of curiosity what should I expect to pay in Boca Chica? I see prices all over the place. On a side note has anybody tried hitting up a chica via backpage while in DR? I was just checking it out and a see a couple of independents on there. Lastly just wondering if anyone wants to team up November 27th through December 1st, I got a suite all paid for at an all inclusive in Boca Chica, my two buddies just wimped out on me saying they are scared to go, so now I am stuck with the tab for an already paid for room. Be nice if I could recuperate some money by sharing it with a couple of fellow mongers. If anyone is interested hit me up.

GrownMan1
10-14-13, 05:26
I really would appreciate some info on P4P in Santo Domingo, as apposed to all this BS about phones and other unrelated info. I am traveling to Santo Domingo next month for Thanksgiving weekend and will be staying in Boca Chica.In my opinion you are right were you need to be in BC. P4p in SD in lame and terrible. Last week while in SD; I almost drove to BC for good action and selection. The two club I went into for p4p one of them being Foxy were the far over priced! I seen a lot of butt injections and fake breast but the looked good. The freelancers were 3s to 7s, hard core, and hard to find after 11pm. Mongering in SD is no para mi. My friends wanted to curse me out for bring them their and go back to BC but we had brought our rooms. Hostal La Colonia is basic, in the heart of the colonia zona, wifi, and chica friendly but no pool. Its runs about $40 per night.

GrownMan1
10-14-13, 05:37
Once again, Old Fool, you are a plethora of misinformation!

Just for the record, it costs exactly the same / minute to call Nueva Yol from Santo Domingo, as it does Santiago from a Dominican cell phone.

I use GOOGLE VOICE on WIFI to call The States for FREE, on my Gringo phone with roaming turned OFF to avoid a bill.

You can only "activate" a new GOOGLE Voice account from a US IP address, so it must be downloaded / activated prior to trip.

You can make / receive FREE calls & SMS, then get a cheapie local cell.I don't see anything wrong with Olskool's info. He pretty much accurate! As is yours. And to add on you can download magic jack anytime you have a wifi connection. Free calls to the US and Canada. The calls are not clear at times but it free and once connected, you can received your calls when someone dials your US number, but you must have a wifi connection!

Showdown
10-16-13, 18:59
Does anyone know if their is luggage storage in Los Americas airport (SDQ)? I want to make a quick run to GBP before going to La Romana but don't want to drag my luggage with me.

Cagep1967
10-17-13, 13:26
Does anyone know if their is luggage storage in Los Americas airport (SDQ)? I want to make a quick run to GBP before going to La Romana but don't want to drag my luggage with me.I don't know if their is a service, but I've had United hold my bag in their office and picked it up later / next morning several times. Also, if you don't pick it up from baggage claim, they will put it in a holding area for retrieval later, this happened when one of my bags did not make it down. Just went to the customs office outside and to the right when exiting to claim, no fuss at all.

FYI: GBP is in Santo Domingo about a $40 taxi ride back and forth, unless you have a rental.

Showdown
10-18-13, 02:10
I don't know if their is a service, but I've had United hold my bag in their office and picked it up later / next morning several times. Also, if you don't pick it up from baggage claim, they will put it in a holding area for retrieval later, this happened when one of my bags did not make it down. Just went to the customs office outside and to the right when exiting to claim, no fuss at all.

FYI: GBP is in Santo Domingo about a $40 taxi ride back and forth, unless you have a rental.Thanks for the info. I will see if American Airlines will hold my bag.

Also I read that you can take a small bus from the upper level of the airport into Santo Domingo for 70 pesos. Does anyone have experience doing this? I am tired of paying the taxi mafia $30-$45 USD for what is really a 400 pesos taxi ride into town.

BoricuaOnline
10-20-13, 21:54
Thanks for the info. I will see if American Airlines will hold my bag.

Also I read that you can take a small bus from the upper level of the airport into Santo Domingo for 70 pesos. Does anyone have experience doing this? I am tired of paying the taxi mafia $30-$45 USD for what is really a 400 pesos taxi ride into town.With the reputation Santo Domingo airport has in the incidence of stolen goods from customer bags I doubt this a good idea. About the bus, this question has been answered 1753 times on this forum in the last 3 months and the answer is yes, this is the method most airport employees use from and to city transport.

OldKool
10-21-13, 01:27
The casino in the jaraqua hotel will hold your bags for as long as you need. I have done this with no problem.


With the reputation Santo Domingo airport has in the incidence of stolen goods from customer bags I doubt this a good idea. About the bus, this question has been answered 1753 times on this forum in the last 3 months and the answer is yes, this is the method most airport employees use from and to city transport.

Cagep1967
10-21-13, 21:41
I've been to GBP 4 times last week and again today. I've been in the mood lately for some sleaze and GBP hit the spot, I had my favorite Paola once again and my new favorite CC (very nice girl). It fits my model of quick and easy. My girls in the university not too far from it, I've had some business nearby with an out of town friend (he likes it too).

To answer a PM in the public forum, no big titty girls to be found. Most are B's to some C's, I like nice B's. Anyway, I don't care what anyone says, I like the place. Well worth $25 dollars, for a good suck and fuck. It is right off a main street, easy to get to. If I want long term GFE, I know how to get that.

Anyway, I'm out tomorrow for a few weeks, got business I Mexico, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle and England. Be back in a few weeks.

Later.

OldKool
10-22-13, 02:13
If my money comes through I will be on my way to SD. I have some nice girls in cue. I need to do some sosua before I leave the DR as well. I have a friend in Sosua who is a real sex freak like me. She says she will bring her young sister with her. She wants a phone and she will be happy. Keeping my fingers crossed.

GrownMan1
10-22-13, 04:11
If my money comes through I will be on my way to SD. I have some nice girls in cue. I need to do some sosua before I leave the DR as well. I have a friend in Sosua who is a real sex freak like me. She says she will bring her young sister with her. She wants a phone and she will be happy. Keeping my fingers crossed.Damn OdKl I just got back this month, but I might want to go with ya.

OldKool
10-22-13, 14:52
Is it better to sport fuck or to wife up. I do both things and enjoy it. I am planning a trip very soon. I have some ladies I have been talking to on skype. The anticipation is awesome and I think mutual. Whether for money sex or any thing else I believe the chicas are as excited as I am. There is huge difference between fucking a pro and non hard core girl.

Its Just Vaca
10-23-13, 01:03
sup peeps! heading to dr / sosua next week. i want to venture out to santo domingo while i'm there. should i take the bus or rent a car and drive? also is there a bus schedule posted somewhere? new to the forum so don't blast me if this has been asked 100 times already. also whats a girl friendly hotel in santo domingo. i'll be there 2 to 3 days and then back to sosua.

OldKool
10-23-13, 02:17
you can travel almost any where for very little money on the buses. both bus lines have websites caribe tours and metro bus. let us know what you want to do. we can help.


sup peeps! heading to dr / sosua next week. i want to venture out to santo domingo while i'm there. should i take the bus or rent a car and drive? also is there a bus schedule posted somewhere? new to the forum so don't blast me if this has been asked 100 times already. also whats a girl friendly hotel in santo domingo. i'll be there 2 to 3 days and then back to sosua.

Troubleman69
10-25-13, 11:53
I just returned last night from a short trip to Santo Domingo, and 3 of the casas on Pasteur have reopened. I didn't stop, but Girl House, and the other two closest to it have reopened. The taxi guy said Venecia looked like it was reopening last night. Just a little FYI for those who might be interested in them. Also the waitresses at the pool hall that I go to were actively selling pussy on the side. Even though I was just in there in May, there was a bunch of new girls working there, and they seemed to be more aggressive than than the previous group. I never remember the name of the place, but it is a couple of buildings away from a Texaco on Ave Espana.

OldKool
10-25-13, 12:35
Any one know a good spot for Bachata during the week. I have company in the middle of the week. Weekends are easy to find places to dance. I do not know where to go in the middle of the week.

OldKool
10-25-13, 12:37
Pool and pussy are a great combination. If you can find the name of yhe pool hall that would be great.


I just returned last night from a short trip to Santo Domingo, and 3 of the casas on Pasteur have reopened. I didn't stop, but Girl House, and the other two closest to it have reopened. The taxi guy said Venecia looked like it was reopening last night. Just a little FYI for those who might be interested in them. Also the waitresses at the pool hall that I go to were actively selling pussy on the side. Even though I was just in there in May, there was a bunch of new girls working there, and they seemed to be more aggressive than than the previous group. I never remember the name of the place, but it is a couple of buildings away from a Texaco on Ave Espana.

Burma Jones
10-25-13, 17:04
I was looking at staying at Jaragua next year for a quick stopover before heading to the north coast and noticed that Marriott is not accepting reservations. After some digging, I saw a report that they are no longer accepting reservations after January 2014 due to the opening of a JW Marriott in Santo Domingo in February 2014. The same information said that the former Mellia next door to Jaragua was sold and is being redesigned as a Sheraton. Not sure who will purchase or how it will be reconfigured but I have to assume the Jaragua will continue to do business in some form or iteration due to the location and money that it has to be making.

Knowledge
10-25-13, 19:09
No surprise. Same old, same old.


I just returned last night from a short trip to Santo Domingo, and 3 of the casas on Pasteur have reopened. I didn't stop, but Girl House, and the other two closest to it have reopened. The taxi guy said Venecia looked like it was reopening last night. Just a little FYI for those who might be interested in them. Also the waitresses at the pool hall that I go to were actively selling pussy on the side. Even though I was just in there in May, there was a bunch of new girls working there, and they seemed to be more aggressive than than the previous group. I never remember the name of the place, but it is a couple of buildings away from a Texaco on Ave Espana.

OldKool
10-25-13, 20:26
It is a decent hotel but has zero tolerance for chicas. I checked in with a lady and got push back because we were not married. My jaw dropped. There plenty of [laces that just as nice and way more friendly.


I was looking at staying at Jaragua next year for a quick stopover before heading to the north coast and noticed that Marriott is not accepting reservations. After some digging, I saw a report that they are no longer accepting reservations after January 2014 due to the opening of a JW Marriott in Santo Domingo in February 2014. The same information said that the former Mellia next door to Jaragua was sold and is being redesigned as a Sheraton. Not sure who will purchase or how it will be reconfigured but I have to assume the Jaragua will continue to do business in some form or iteration due to the location and money that it has to be making.

Alex Deuce
10-25-13, 23:48
I just returned last night from a short trip to Santo Domingo, and 3 of the casas on Pasteur have reopened. I didn't stop, but Girl House, and the other two closest to it have reopened. The taxi guy said Venecia looked like it was reopening last night. Just a little FYI for those who might be interested in them. Also the waitresses at the pool hall that I go to were actively selling pussy on the side. Even though I was just in there in May, there was a bunch of new girls working there, and they seemed to be more aggressive than than the previous group. I never remember the name of the place, but it is a couple of buildings away from a Texaco on Ave Espana.They never really closed. P4p scene actually exploding at the seems. Unintentional consequences of freelancers (per the actual interpretation of prostitution) all over the place.

SavePros321
10-26-13, 03:07
I just returned last night from a short trip to Santo Domingo, and 3 of the casas on Pasteur have reopened. I didn't stop, but Girl House, and the other two closest to it have reopened.So much for that image cleanup for the Cruise Ships. Hopefully Shamester won't try to slit his wrists over the weekend from disappointment. He was rooting really hard for a cleanup.

Thanks for the report/update!

SavePros321
10-26-13, 03:12
Any one know a good spot for Bachata during the week. I have company in the middle of the week. Weekends are easy to find places to dance. I do not know where to go in the middle of the week.You would probably get the best answer to this from asking a chica. They definitely would know.

Combo
10-26-13, 05:09
Any one know a good spot for Bachata during the week. I have company in the middle of the week. Weekends are easy to find places to dance. I do not know where to go in the middle of the week.I'm sure some of the Avenida Venezuela places have Bachata during the week. They're pretty happening 7 days a week. Not for the easily scared (but I know no problem for you
Old Kool, since you're a S. D. Veteran).

OldKool
10-26-13, 06:49
I like to bring girls from out of town to Sd. This gives you a bit more control. He girls are committed to enjoying their selves because nto is a lot of trouble

OldKool
10-26-13, 06:50
I like to bring girls from out of town to Sd. This gives you a bit more control. The girls are committed to enjoying their selves because not is a lot of trouble

GrownMan1
10-26-13, 13:33
I like to bring girls from out of town to Sd. This gives you a bit more control. The girls are committed to enjoying their selves because not is a lot of troubleI learn this my second time in DR. After I over paid a chica a in BC 3000 pesos for a ST and we went to her house. She gassed my head up with pictures prior. She rushed me to hurry up, (like 15 minutes) I didn't feel safe though my wingman waited outside for me, house smell like day ol [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), hot as hell, and her performance was 4. Come Papi Come. (boy she was sexy) I said ever again will I let new chica be in that much control of my surroundings and the sex. I would go to fishing in BC and bring them back to SD to skin them alive. They liked getting out BC. Less problems, no rushing and I felt secure.

Troubleman69
10-26-13, 15:53
They never really closed. P4p scene actually exploding at the seems. Unintentional consequences of freelancers (per the actual interpretation of prostitution) all over the place.I know there were others still open around the city, but these were really closed for a period, right? As far as my pool spot, p4p was always available, but the new girls were hitting me up before I could order my first bottle of brugal. It was annoying for me, but for those who are looking for something quick it's another option. It's easy to find the place. You drive down Ave Espana, make a uturn at the Texaco, and it's on the right. It has an open air area with pool tables / bar up front, and in the back a "VIP" section with ac. Normally, there are groups of girls together who might be available. I haven't run into any english speakers there, so have a decent understanding of dominican spanish, or a person with you who can speak it.

The owner of La Base sold that spot to someone else, and bought the sports bar across the street. He took his loud ass music with him, which is good for me when I want to watch a game, and actually hear some of the action. I had my driver take me further down the Malecon (past Doll House) where tons of street walkers where readily available. I'm not into street walkers, but for those that are, you will find what you are looking for down there. I saw a couple of questionable looking ones (meaning men in drag) out there too, so be careful, unless you like that sort of thing.

Shamester
10-26-13, 19:32
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Cagep1967
10-27-13, 04:37
Any one know a good spot for Bachata during the week. I have company in the middle of the week. Weekends are easy to find places to dance. I do not know where to go in the middle of the week.Check this link, http://www.10best.com/destinations/dominican-republic/santo-domingo/zona-colonial/nightlife/bachata-rosa/

I've never been, but it looks like a nice place. I've been meaning to go, but have not had the chance.

Ozzie1451
10-27-13, 15:08
I am a new member on this board and this is my first post.

I will be in DR between November 9 and 17. I will rent a car at sdq airport and stay at Boca Chica, Santiago, Puerta Plata and Sousa. I wonder if anybody has plans for this particular time frame.

Xzavier Kush
10-27-13, 21:44
I am a new member on this board and this is my first post.

I will be in DR between November 9 and 17. I will rent a car at sdq airport and stay at Boca Chica, Santiago, Puerta Plata and Sousa. I wonder if anybody has plans for this particular time frame.Are you new to the Dominican Republic?

If yes, I recommend that you do not rent a car while in Santo Domingo and Boca Chica.

They drive crazy in the capital. Unless you are an experienced aggressive driver I don't recommend it.

Taxis should be good enough for Santo Domingo and Boca Chica is small enough that moto conchos will work well.

A car rental for Sosua and Puerta Plata is a little more easier, although I have some horror stories about driving in those towns.

One including a cop car blind siding my car rental and then blaming me for the accident.

Spent a day in jail for that one while we negotiated the necessary bribe.

What are you looking for in these cities?

My personal opinion is that Sosua is the best place.

Sosua is unique in that the girls are roaming around the town.

You don't have to worry about buying drinks or paying bar fines.

You can look and interview at your leisure.

Give me some more details about what you are looking for and I will try to help.

MtyJones94
10-27-13, 21:50
Nice and inexpensive place to stay, Jaguar studio apts calle 59 hermanos Deligne in Gazcue.

The place is chica friendly and the service is really good.

AtLuvHerSoGud
10-28-13, 08:45
Hottest possible chica for Fri & Sat, Nov. 22 & 23?

1st time in DR. Looking for a stunner, possibly for TLN, prefer GFE or even PSE, and willing to pay for quality of both looks and treatment. Prefer a chica with a good sense of humor and a brain in her head in addition to an incredible and tireless body. Age & body type less important than the above, tho I admit to preferring thinner / athletic chicas with a nice rack, even if surgically enhanced. I speak Spanish (& Portuguse too, tho would be great if the chica were Dominicana rather than foreign) , and money is no issue but quality is!

Mani Domi
10-29-13, 06:12
Any one know a good spot for Bachata during the week. I have company in the middle of the week. Weekends are easy to find places to dance. I do not know where to go in the middle of the week.On mondays you can go to ferragamos on charles avenue. Tuesdays its at euphoria disco on Venezuela avenue. Wednesday its on macumba also on la Venezuela and on thursdays the.

Place to be is club energy on la Venezuela.

SavePros321
10-29-13, 11:21
Hottest possible chica for Fri & Sat, Nov. 22 & 23?

1st time in DR. Looking for a stunner, possibly for TLN, prefer GFE or even PSE, and willing to pay for quality of both looks and treatment. Prefer a chica with a good sense of humor and a brain in her head in addition to an incredible and tireless body. Age & body type less important than the above, tho I admit to preferring thinner / athletic chicas with a nice rack, even if surgically enhanced. I speak Spanish (& Portuguse too, tho would be great if the chica were Dominicana rather than foreign) , and money is no issue but quality is!Sound like you need a pimp, LOL. Someone posted Fabio's number on here not too long ago. Read back through the forum.

Mr Enternational
10-29-13, 20:58
1st time in DR. Looking for a stunner, possibly for TLN, prefer GFE or even PSE, and willing to pay for quality of both looks and treatment. Prefer a chica with a good sense of humor and a brain in her head in addition to an incredible and tireless body ...and money is no issue but quality is!And that is where you may run into problems. Generally, there is no need for smart Dominicanas to be hookers. I would suggest getting a dumb chick that you want to pay, or getting a smart woman who you do not have to pay.

Orgasmico
10-30-13, 00:13
1st time in DR. Looking for a stunner, possibly for TLN, prefer GFE or even PSE, and willing to pay for quality of both looks and treatment. I speak Spanish, and money is no issue but quality is!You could go through the casas and swoop up the ones that give you the best convo, chemistry and have a bangin bodies. That would at least be a start, if you want to hit the ground running. Another option would be to contact some chicas ahead of time through social media and hook-up with the ones that are saying the right things. Anywhere you go, you're bound to me chicas with nice bods but the mental part is something that only you can evaluate. This should be pretty easy since you speak Spanish.

Ozzie1451
10-30-13, 02:47
Are you new to the Dominican Republic?

If yes, I recommend that you do not rent a car while in Santo Domingo and Boca Chica.

They drive crazy in the capital. Unless you are an experienced aggressive driver I don't recommend it.

Taxis should be good enough for Santo Domingo and Boca Chica is small enough that moto conchos will work well.

A car rental for Sosua and Puerta Plata is a little more easier, although I have some horror stories about driving in those towns.

One including a cop car blind siding my car rental and then blaming me for the accident.

Spent a day in jail for that one while we negotiated the necessary bribe.

What are you looking for in these cities?

My personal opinion is that Sosua is the best place.

Sosua is unique in that the girls are roaming around the town.

You don't have to worry about buying drinks or paying bar fines.

You can look and interview at your leisure.

Give me some more details about what you are looking for and I will try to help.I have never been to Dominican Republic and this will be my first time. I decided to go directly to puerto plata and maybe try FOD, BB and Sousa after reading your comment and thinking about it. I also do not speak spanish. I am looking for meeting atractive young women and spend 1-2 hours first, if it works out then have them overnight.

GrownMan1
10-30-13, 03:25
And that is where you may run into problems. Generally, there is no need for smart Dominicanas to be hookers. I would suggest getting a dumb chick that you want to pay, or getting a smart woman who you do not have to pay.Now that's some good advice!

Charles Pooter
10-30-13, 03:44
I have never been to Dominican Republic and this will be my first time. I decided to go directly to puerto plata and maybe try FOD, BB and Sousa after reading your comment and thinking about it. I also do not speak spanish. I am looking for meeting atractive young women and spend 1-2 hours first, if it works out then have them overnight.Much better plan. You cannot go wrong at BB or FoD. It is possible to go wrong in Sosua so link up with some experienced gringos to show you the ropes there.

Santo Domingo and Santiago are hard work if you don't speak Spanish.

Your plan to test-drive the chicas with ST before TLN is also wise. Not fool-proof but reduces your chances of trouble or disappointment.

You won't need a rental for your three destinations.

GrownMan1
10-30-13, 03:56
Fresh met his new novia at the Hard Rock Cafe. When he first met her she frowned at the very idea of him spending any money on her. After having sex with him and establishing her new via status, she need minutes for her phone, her house has burned down, her rent is due, she couldn't go to work twice because she was taking care of her daughter, and she wants to kill herself. All in to weeks, She has also sent pictures of herself crying to him. I begged him not to do it, but he sent her 50. He sent her another hundred prior to coming. She wanted him to come with her when he arrived. I was completely against it. Fresh does not know a lick of Spanish or Santo Domingo. I told him if he give her that much control over him there is no telling what situation he might end up in. I knew he was going regardless. My man Justice had a rental car. Instead of leaving it behind sitting fresh took it. His novia almost couldn't contain her anger when she saw that he had a rental car. Once they were in Santo Domingo. He spent $100 on groceries and about $55 or small items that she wanted. When we arrived back in Boca Chica. He met us at the house. She was calling him like a bat out of hell. They were supposed to go to the hospital to see her sick daughter today. When he told her he was in Boca Chica, she drove past the hospital to Boca Chica to gave him follow her back. He kept the car at my quest.

She waited an hour in the hot sun for him the meet her at the jumbo. He left us saying he was going to tell her he didn't want to go and come right back. I laugh and told him to take his wallet with him. We didn't see him for the rest of the day. The following day he met us back in Boca Chica. He explained to us how the whole family was gathered around the little girl and it broke his heart to see her in that condition. He even said the little girl called his name. I was rolling all over the floor. He said he gave the family $150 toward her medical expenses.

Puntz79
10-30-13, 04:45
Sounds like a great post for the Classifieds section.

Also, the hottest possible chica may be different for each of us. And a lot of us also don't shoot for who is the "hottest", some will go purely off looks (I've been there) and others will take their time and go for the best experience and not necessarily the best looking (which again is a matter of opinion). If you have the time, spend a few hours trying to hit up bars / clubs and maybe building up chemistry with a chica you find attractive. Chances are, it will be worth it for the experience.

But, with that said. If you don't have any time and just want to go bang them all. Well, that's always an option.


Hottest possible chica for Fri & Sat, Nov. 22 & 23?

1st time in DR. Looking for a stunner, possibly for TLN, prefer GFE or even PSE, and willing to pay for quality of both looks and treatment. Prefer a chica with a good sense of humor and a brain in her head in addition to an incredible and tireless body. Age & body type less important than the above, tho I admit to preferring thinner / athletic chicas with a nice rack, even if surgically enhanced. I speak Spanish (& Portuguse too, tho would be great if the chica were Dominicana rather than foreign) , and money is no issue but quality is!

Mr Enternational
10-30-13, 05:43
Grown Man, everytime you post a new story it tops your last story. Why are guys so afraid to tell women no? Do they think they won't give them anymore pussy or something? I just got back from Peru. Sunday my girl had the sniffles. She said it was from sinusitis. We went to he pharmacy to get her some medicine. While we were there she asked me if I would buy her some shampoo. Knowing that she would get the most expensive shit that she can't buy with her own money I told her yes. Well when I went to the counter to pay, shampoo ended up turning into two more hair products as well, all to the tune of $21 plus $7 for the medicine.

We left the pharmacy and went to the grocery store because I wanted to get us some champagne to drink in the jacuzzi back at the hotel. While I was picking out the booze, she was on the shelves picking out more beauty products. Then she started following me to the checkout with a jar of Ponds. I told her NO. She tried to plead but it fell on deaf ears. I wasn't even listening. I just kept firmly repeating NO and she finally put it back.

Some of these guys need to stop being cremepuffs when it comes to these women. Then they have the audacity to talk about women back home. The only reason they are the way they are is because guys have trained them to be that way, the same as they are training the Dominicanas that they can can whatever they like. It won't be long...

Showdown wrote a good story a while back about a woman he was involved with. You might want to copy it and send it to your boy.

SavePros321
10-30-13, 08:07
He explained to us how the whole family was gathered around the little girl and it broke his heart to see her in that condition. He even said the little girl called his name. I was rolling all over the floor. He said he gave the family $150 toward her medical expenses.I would have been laughing my ass off too! Not only does Gringo = Money to them; it also equals "sucker".

They probably had a "spotter" in the hallway (the uncle, abuela, etc.) to call or text everyone in the hospital room once your boy and his chica showed up:

Uncle: "Okay, her gringo is here. Places everyone! Roll tape. Sad faces in 3...2...1...ACTION!"

What's the price of "free pussy"?:

$100 (sent before bruh man even got the the DR) + $50 + $100 + $55 + $150 = $455!

Free pussy is an oxymoron.

GrownMan1
10-30-13, 11:09
Showdown wrote a good story a while back about a woman he was involved with. You might want to copy it and send it to your boy.You so right! I told them Showdown's story to on the plane. Fresh is my dog but he to likes to spoil his chica. He recently divorce and maybe going through it.

Shamester
10-31-13, 17:21
I would have been laughing my ass off too! Not only does Gringo = Money to them; it also equals "sucker".

They probably had a "spotter" in the hallway (the uncle, abuela, etc.) to call or text everyone in the hospital room once your boy and his chica showed up:

Uncle: "Okay, her gringo is here. Places everyone! Roll tape. Sad faces in 3. 2.1. ACTION!"

What's the price of "free pussy"? :

$100 (sent before bruh man even got the the DR) + $50 + $100 + $55 + $150 = $455!

Free pussy is an oxymoron.Bingo! Thank goodness this board is blessed with experienced counselors.

Showdown
10-31-13, 20:21
You so right! I told them Showdown's story to on the plane. Fresh is my dog but he to likes to spoil his chica. He recently divorce and maybe going through it.I agree! Please read my story in the Sosua section. I now have two girls in Santo Domingo (I met through Tagged). If I want to do anything for them I do. And if I don't I won't. They tried that "buy me this and that" when I first met them. I said no and walked away. Cut off contact for a week. Now I have them trained. They do what I want when I want them to (I am respectful of course) and they know better than to ask. And someones previous statement was right-the overwhelming majority of Dominicanas would never be a prostitute. And if she is one do what you want with her and drop her. No text, no whatsapp no nothing.

And remember (when it comes to the pros). Do not go to their houses. Do not see their kids. Do not send them money. Do not get involved in their lives at all.

Showdown

Alex Deuce
11-01-13, 04:51
I agree! Please read my story in the Sosua section. I now have two girls in Santo Domingo (I met through Tagged). If I want to do anything for them I do. And if I don't I won't. They tried that "buy me this and that" when I first met them. I said no and walked away. Cut off contact for a week. Now I have them trained. They do what I want when I want them to (I am respectful of course) and they know better than to ask. And someones previous statement was right-the overwhelming majority of Dominicanas would never be a prostitute. And if she is one do what you want with her and drop her. No text, no whatsapp no nothing.

And remember (when it comes to the pros). Do not go to their houses. Do not see their kids. Do not send them money. Do not get involved in their lives at all.

ShowdownYou can do all of the above and be just fine. Pros are just hos that take money. Actually, you will learn a lot of the game from a pro as well as a lot of connections if you keep it professional. Don't even start that novia shiat.

Showdown
11-02-13, 00:34
GBP Full report.

As an avid lover of Star of Light in Bangkok (go to Bangkok section) I thought GBP might be as close as it gets to Star of Light given its reputation for seediness and cheap cost. I ventured there and want to provide a full report to make it easier for others in the future to enjoy GBP and all it has to offer.

Getting there.

I wanted to go to GBP on the way to my Tagged girl but I had bags. I initially went upstairs to arrivals hoping to find the famed bus that the airport employees used so I could take it into town and take a cheap taxi from there. I waited an hour but I never saw any van or anything else I could take. The airport mafia was constantly approaching me (even upstairs) trying to get a fare. I told them my friend was coming to take me someplace where he would wait for me for two hours and then onto my final destination. One guy would not give up and we agreed on 1400 pesos from the airport to GBP, he would wait two hours and then take me to my final destination which was about 20 minutes from GBP. A good deal I thought so I took it.

A young taxi driver came upstairs with his car. He had a nice Camry that was well maintained. Now I have read how getting to GBP can be a little confusing. I had a two pronged strategy to ensure I would not get lost. First I made sure that driver knew where Avenue 27 de Febrero was. I then told him it would be between Lincoln and Tiradentes. He seemed a bit familiar but not too sure. As we got closer I gave him the number to Arismendy Motors which is right next door to GBP. He called them (see my attached Google map for the number) and they told him exactly where they were (of course thinking someone was coming to buy a car-they sell luxury cars in that dealership). Now when you are coming from the airport to Avenue 27 de Febrero you have to go to the end and make a you-turn because Arismendy and GBP are on the other side of the street (the street has a concrete divider so you have to go to the light and make a you-turn). Right before the dealership is a Shell station (see photo) and then the dealership. As soon as you see the dealership have the taxi slow down because GBP is right beside it (just after the dealership). It is in a small brown building with round cut outs. It has about 10 parking spaces in front. When I arrived there was construction on some of the offices on the bottom of the building. It is a small building-nothing spectacular.

GBP before the action.

Some said that GBP opens at 1pm. You need to walk to the right side of the building to the steel door and ring the bell. I rang it over and over and no one answered. I later discovered it opens at 2pm. Around 1:15 a young girl showed up and she told me they do not open until 2. But some guy was coming in (for one of the offices) and let us in with him. GBP is on the second floor as soon as you come to the top of the steps (see photo). The young women and I sat there for a while talking (she worked at GBP). Nice girl, body and had 'f* me written all over her. I knew she was going to be the one for me. At 2 sharp the boss (who was short, mean looking and reminded me of Jabba the Hutt) and about six girls came up the steps. The other girls were nothing to write home about. A few overweight, the others looked Haitian to me. But not horrible. The boss opened the door and we all piled in.

When you first enter there is a sitting area to the left. Walk a few feet more and there is a small bar (see photo). I was hoping to have the action in the bar like Star of Light but that does not happen at GBP. The bar was decorated in Halloween decorations but it was filthy. The floor had not been swept from the night before. Refuse was everywhere. The boss started cleaning up right away. I sat about ten minutes as the girls milled back and forth getting dressed. One girl, who was about a 7 and lite skinned, had huge boobs I noticed. I had plans to go with her after I had the girl I chatted with.

The Action.

The girl I chatted with came into the bar area and my goodness she was a total brickhouse. She looked totally different. Sexy as hell. We talked for another minute and I said lets go. We walked out of the bar and to the left and it seems as though they took large rooms (on the left and right side) and partitioned them off with white bedsheets. The rooms are exposed to the main hall with no doors and anyone can hear or see (if a breeze or a / see blows on the sheets) whats happening. The room is small (see photo) but enough room to do the deed. I gave her the 1K and she left the room for a minute to give the money to the boss. I don't want to use my girls name but some of you may know her by her tattoo (see photo). Anyhow she was fun, bubbly and ready to go. Interestingly enough, despite previous posts, she told me anal is not on the menu with any of the girls. She was impressed for some reason I had my own condoms and wipes (bring wipes). As we went to do the deed I noticed some bumps on her P*Y that looked suspect. However after I looked harder they seemed like razors bumps. Still I avoided skin to skin as much as possible. She was champ. Great sloppy BJ, doggy, mish, she was very vocal and she totally drained me. I had nothing left for the big boobed girl. I left happy and the boss said have a nice day.

Final thoughts.

I enjoyed GBP. Cheap, the girl was great and the rest of the girls are doable. The only drawback is it is a bit out of the way. You need a taxi but for 1300 pesos my driver took me there from the airport, waited while I did the deed and drove me to my final destination. I will not go out of my way to repeat but as far as Santo Domingo goes it is worth the drive.

Showdown

Orgasmico
11-02-13, 01:11
Are there any new spots in SDQ?

Mr Enternational
11-02-13, 01:27
Looks like Showdown showed out with that post. I will definitely add it to ROD when I can get to my computer. I'm sure you got he number of that driver. Seeing as some guys are paying $40 from the airport to Zona Colonial and your guy drove you to GBP, agreed to wait 2 hours, then drive you 20 more minutes for only $33, we can all agree that the regular airport taxi deal is nothing but a ripoff.

Knowledge
11-02-13, 02:24
Amazing to me he left his bags in the car of some random guy he met at the airport. He is very lucky.


Looks like Showdown showed out with that post. I will definitely add it to ROD when I can get to my computer. I'm sure you got he number of that driver. Seeing as some guys are paying $40 from the airport to Zona Colonial and your guy drove you to GBP, agreed to wait 2 hours, then drive you 20 more minutes for only $33, we can all agree that the regular airport taxi deal is nothing but a ripoff.

Showdown
11-02-13, 17:04
Amazing to me he left his bags in the car of some random guy he met at the airport. He is very lucky.He was one of the official taxi drivers at the airport with an id. I was not too concerned. My bags were locked, I wasn't carrying bars of gold and he seemed to need the fare. Nothing negative about the taxi driver to say.

Mr Enternational
11-02-13, 17:41
Amazing to me he left his bags in the car of some random guy he met at the airport. He is very lucky.I had thought of that too but didn't mention it. My first time in Peru I did the same thing. Left this chicks house then hired a taxi for a few hours until it was time to go to the airport. I got him to take me to a fuck house and I left my bags in the car. Afterwards the driver told me never to do that. And when I think about it these days I'm like what the fuck was I thinking? Now I wouldn't even jump out of the car for a second with my bags left in the car; I damn sure wouldn't do it when going into a brothel to hang out for a while.

Joe Shmoe
11-02-13, 19:40
Does anyone know if Hotel Santo Domingo is chica friendly?

How are the casas nowadays?

AtLuvHerSoGud
11-04-13, 07:27
Thanks for the tips on my earlier post, guys. Limited time, so tryng to use Tagged to meet chicas before the 22nd, but otherwise reading up on casas and figuring out where I might likely find a stunner who enjoys her work. Haha.

Question though: is Cialis available w / o a prescription in DR pharmacies as it is in Colombia? Found some posts that mentioned the generic name for Viagra (sedenefil or something like that) but not for Cialis, and either way it seemed like these were discussing where these were available in Sousa, not Santo Domingo.

Cheers, mates.

Qualude
11-05-13, 08:42
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Question though: is Cialis available w / o a prescription in DR pharmacies as it is in Colombia? Found some posts that mentioned the generic name for Viagra (sedenefil or something like that) but not for Cialis, and either way it seemed like these were discussing where these were available in Sousa, not Santo Domingo.Both Cialis and Viagra, and their generic brands, are available over the counter. Generic Viagra sells for about $1.25 a pill for 50 mgs and $2.50 per pill for 100 mgs.

Alex Deuce
11-06-13, 00:30
Both Cialis and Viagra, and their generic brands, are available over the counter. Generic Viagra sells for about $1.25 a pill for 50 mgs and $2.50 per pill for 100 mgs.We have been here before. Never take Generic Cialis it does not work well. Better of taking Lapela or Generic Viagra if you can take the headache. Several guys have had bad reactions to it. One wound up in the hospital.

Stoker Star
11-06-13, 03:08
The generic is La Perla never had any problems with it

SavePros321
11-06-13, 03:26
We have been here before. Never take Generic Cialis it does not work well. Better of taking Lapela or Generic Viagra if you can take the headache. Several guys have had bad reactions to it. One wound up in the hospital.La Pela is generic Cialis (Tadalafil). I still have a grip of them and Mambo 36 that I brought back from the DR and never had a problem with either. They both come as 20mg tabs.

Charles Pooter
11-06-13, 06:01
Never take Generic Cialis it does not work well. Better off taking LaPela.LaPela is Generic Cialis. All these drugs vary in their effect according to different individuals' metabolism, and maybe even what they have eaten and drunk in the preceding hours. I have discussed this with numerous guys over the past eight years and read many more reports, and on average LaPela seems as successful and trouble-free as any of them. It's cheap, so see if it works for you.


. or Generic Viagra if you can take the headache.Apart from the discomfort, a headache is a warning that you are harming your body. I would never eat or drink anything if I knew in advance it would give me a headache.

Jooks
11-06-13, 11:48
Speaking of. I need to restock my supply of generic Viagra & cialis. I'll be in santo Domingo next week near the colonial zone. What's the going rate and best store (s)? Thanks.

Alex Deuce
11-08-13, 02:45
LaPela is Generic Cialis. All these drugs vary in their effect according to different individuals' metabolism, and maybe even what they have eaten and drunk in the preceding hours. I have discussed this with numerous guys over the past eight years and read many more reports, and on average LaPela seems as successful and trouble-free as any of them. It's cheap, so see if it works for you.

Apart from the discomfort, a headache is a warning that you are harming your body. I would never eat or drink anything if I knew in advance it would give me a headache.What's that crap in the green wrapper?

UTwoGood
11-08-13, 04:52
Hello all

I am traveling to Santo Domingo this early December. Although I have many domestic reviews on here,

This will be my first time ever in Dom Rep, so even though I will be carefully checking out the mongering scene, I'm going to do touristy things as well. I'll be staying at the Hotel Frances (MGallery) in SD in case that helps. Anyone know their visitors' policy?

I know the drill, I'll start with the Distinction Reports. I just wanted to know if you had any updates to add.

FYI: All my reporting on the boards has been on the domestic side.

Thanks

MikeKelimir
11-10-13, 19:50
I'm in my mid-30's and have travelled extensively through latin / south America. I've been wanting to get to DR for a while and finally have a couple months off and am planning a week or so there in late Nov / Early Dec.

Can anyone help me with the following:

1. Night club mixed with locals / gringos where you can drink, meet girls in mid 20's and not full of working girls.

2. Is the p4p scene mostly bars (like Del Ray of San Jose) , strip clubs (like Fase Dos in CR) , or casas / pensions / mp's? What are the average prices one should draw the line at for a 7-8?

3. I like to drink, meet people, stay out late at clubs, and if I can't meet a girl, the find a pro and pull her back to the room. During the day, I'd prefer to sleep, work, eat, or recover. That being said, am I better off in SD or Sousa?

I just posted a travel notice. Anyone looking for the same as me who is headed there anytime soon, let me know if you want a travel partner.

GrownMan1
11-10-13, 21:54
Its my man Street last night in DR. I figure we will end it in SD. I decided that we will stay in the Colonial zone. It was Justice, T, Street and myself. It was Thursday night so I figured that colonial zone would have a little action. We check in our rooms at about 7 o'clock. There wasn't a lot going on. Good for sightseeing if you are into that. There were a few streetwalkers around there but nothing really to shake a stick at. I was hoping the pace will pick up later in the night. Met up with my man polo Charlie. He runs the block by the motel. I asked him to accompany us to Venezuela Avenue. We went into about 4 to 5 clubs. There was nice looking Dominican can chicas in the club, but none of the clubs had a big crowd and none of the girls were giving any signs of action. Justice attempted to dance with 4 chicas dancing by themselves. He was quickly given the gas face. The girls even complained to security. We went to one club that seem crowded. However I was the only one that was allowed to enter. They had a policy against tennis shoes. The club seem like they may have had quality chicas in there, but I refuse to go in without the fellas. The guys realize they were no longer in Kansas. BC and Sosua had spoil them. Santo Domingo gave them a reality check. Charlie took us to the last remaining 2 brothels. Foxy was one but I couldn't remember the name of the other one.

Both brothels had more men than I expected, I've been in Santo Domingo on Friday a few times. Besides myself I never counted no more than five guys. I should have known with these being the last remaining brothels to expect more guys. Both places the women were looking very sexy. Nothing but sevens, eights, and nines. Some of the women look absolutely perfect. Too perfect. I seen a lot of fake titties and butt injections. Some of those girls had the best bodies money could buy. They would have put Serena Williams to shame. They were absolutely sexy. Some were surgery free. No one looked under 25 all over 32. The prices were 3500 pesos and 7000 pesos. Street and justice were so horny they were ready to give in.

I figured we will find some street walkers with cheaper prices. Charlie took us to the old areas around where the closed brothels are located. There were about 12 Street walk. Ranging from 3 to 5. I was so disappointed. The fellas were so horny they were willing to settle for garbage. I wouldn't let them do it. I said let's go back to the colonial zone and choose from there. Maybe the pace has picked up. We got to the colonial zone and went to the club around the corner from the hotel. A few chicks in there but nothing to shake a stick at. We finally ran into four different chicas in the CZ made a deal. They range between two and 7. I got lucky the only 7.

My man Justice had her first, but apparently she was new on the block and was afraid of him. Her homosexual friend came and said something to her and they got up and started walking away from Justice. (he was a little drunk). Her gay pimp was saying she's not used to being out here and he wants to make sure his friend doesn't get hurt. Justice begin cursing out the homosexual for cock blocking and being gay. He walked her up to me and said he remembered me coming to the area a few times. How or why I can't tell you. He asked me to get with his friend because he felt she will be safe. I told him I was about to go back to Boca Chica to find what we need. The guys were clowning me for the plan of coming to lame ass SD and getting rooms for the night. I had to eat the jokes. Let just go to BC and I will pay for the chicas ride to and from SD. Street said he was cool with his 5 chica. He told her I had his money and I would pay her in the morning. Justice seen a chica (3) that knew him from BC and had been trying to give him some pussy for a while. T settled with his 2 (yuck) chica he met and was negotiating with in the park. He told us he wasn't going to have sex with her; she was only going to spend the night with him for 500 pesos. I asked him was he sure. He said in a frustrated tone "damn man we ain't in Sosua no more I'm good". The homosexual was talking with his friend about me. He said if I chose her I can just give her 1000 pesos. When he saw that got my attention he switched it to 1500 pesos. Fuck it. Its saved me a trip and she was sexy. (An 8 if she was in the states) As she and I walked off; I dropped my passport wallet. She stopped me, turned me around, and show me my wallet on the floor.

She did a damn good performance. BJ no condom, and massage my back. We went at it for about 30 minutes she stayed for about 3 hours. She made the $3. 99 dress reward club. Street knocks on my door about 8 o'clock that morning. It was T arguing with his 500 pesos chica. She was saying he owe her more. I came in T's defense saying he didn't even have sex with her. The chica was crying and said she had children 2 feed and needed her money. Chocolate the 400 plus pound a Dominican was telling us that girl was a crackhead and she is nasty. He warn T to be careful in his choices. T then told me all he did was just stuck his head in her for a little bit. I looked at him and said we aint in Sosua no more- turned around and went back into bed. Always thinking with his dick. The end result was T paying her another 500 pesos plus $12 US.

Frannie
11-11-13, 16:09
I'm in my mid-30's and have travelled extensively through latin / south America. I've been wanting to get to DR for a while and finally have a couple months off and am planning a week or so there in late Nov / Early Dec.

Can anyone help me with the following:

1. Night club mixed with locals / gringos where you can drink, meet girls in mid 20's and not full of working girls.

2. Is the p4p scene mostly bars (like Del Ray of San Jose) , strip clubs (like Fase Dos in CR) , or casas / pensions / mp's? What are the average prices one should draw the line at for a 7-8?

3. I like to drink, meet people, stay out late at clubs, and if I can't meet a girl, the find a pro and pull her back to the room. During the day, I'd prefer to sleep, work, eat, or recover. That being said, am I better off in SD or Sousa?

I just posted a travel notice. Anyone looking for the same as me who is headed there anytime soon, let me know if you want a travel partner.The city you mentioned is actually called Sosua, not Sousa, pronounced so-soo-uh.

If you speak Spanish pretty well, you could probably pick up girls in clubs in Santo Domingo, but even then the ones you are likely to have success with will probably be gold-diggers. In Sosua you won't find non-pros in clubs or bars.

There are a variety of formats. In Sosua it is mainly free lance pros who hang out in a handful of bars, a mixture of Dominicans and Haitians, in bars, plus one brothel (CMP) that pretends to be a night club. In Santo Domingo there are plenty of bars and clubs frequented by Dominicans, and also casas that may also pretend to be bars, but really everybody in the joint is focused on you from the moment you walk in. One place popular with some people on this board is GPD, a cheap brothel located in the next building to Arismendy motors (taxi driver needed to locate).

The Dominican government has been having a series of crackdowns on illegal brothels over the last few months over allegations of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). Strictly speaking all brothels and "living off immoral earnings" are illegal. This means that the situation can change rapidly from day to day regarding casas de cita and brothels.

There are also street hookers and some girls who may be picked up in casinos.

You can get laid anywhere just by flirting with likely candidates, like store employees, receptionists, especially if you are willing to devote a little time and make it into a relationship. Guys also get girls from Web sites like Badoo or Dominican Cupid who are probably semi-pros, but willing to travel and stay with you in your hotel.

You can drink anywhere. You don't mention if you smoke, but I think there will be more air-conditioned enclosed clubs in Santo Domingo (no smoking) than in Sosua where most of the bars are semi-open air (smoking allowed).

As a practical matter, for a first time vacation visitor to the DR Sosua is easier to manage, because everything, hotels, chica bars, cafes and restaurants, beach, banks, doctors, dentists, supermarkets, telephone companies, Internet cafes, liquor stores, money changers is within a short (10 mins) walking distance, but Santo Domingo is more like a US city with things rather spread out meaning that you will need transportation or a lot of taxis. Santo Domingo has no beach.

On the other hand, it is more expensive to fly to Puerto Plata airport, which is only 4 miles from Sosua than to Santo Domingo airport, though the bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua is very cheap, but 4 1/2 hours or so of journey time.

Personally I think you would have a better all around vacation in Sosua, but if you really prefer to try your hand with non pros, Santo Domingo may suit you.

SavePros321
11-11-13, 17:10
I'm in my mid-30's and have travelled extensively through latin / south America. I've been wanting to get to DR for a while and finally have a couple months off and am planning a week or so there in late Nov / Early Dec.

Can anyone help me with the following:

1. Night club mixed with locals / gringos where you can drink, meet girls in mid 20's and not full of working girls.

2. Is the p4p scene mostly bars (like Del Ray of San Jose) , strip clubs (like Fase Dos in CR) , or casas / pensions / mp's? What are the average prices one should draw the line at for a 7-8?

3. I like to drink, meet people, stay out late at clubs, and if I can't meet a girl, the find a pro and pull her back to the room. During the day, I'd prefer to sleep, work, eat, or recover. That being said, am I better off in SD or Sousa?Read the trip report just posted by Grownman1 and make your choice.

You are better of in Sosua from newbie standpoint, but there a no "none pros". Probably a good thing if you are actually trying to get laid.

Charles Pooter
11-11-13, 18:29
Personally I think you would have a better all around vacation in Sosua, but if you really prefer to try your hand with non pros, Santo Domingo may suit you.Good info and advice from Frannie as ever.

An alternative suggestion. Stay at Field of Dreams (just outside Puerto Plata in the direction of the airport and Sosua). Puerto Plata is a good small city for picking up non-pros (or more likely semi-pros) , but you also have easy access to Sosua as an alternative.

Downside would be you are paying the increased airfare for flying into POP so would only make sense for a stay of 10 days or more when the extra cost amortized over 10 days would be trivial.

GrownMan1
11-11-13, 20:01
I'm in my mid-30's and have travelled extensively through latin / south America. I've been wanting to get to DR for a while and finally have a couple months off and am planning a week or so there in late Nov / Early Dec.

Can anyone help me with the following:

1. Night club mixed with locals / gringos where you can drink, meet girls in mid 20's and not full of working girls.

2. Is the p4p scene mostly bars (like Del Ray of San Jose) , strip clubs (like Fase Dos in CR) , or casas / pensions / mp's? What are the average prices one should draw the line at for a 7-8?

3. I like to drink, meet people, stay out late at clubs, and if I can't meet a girl, the find a pro and pull her back to the room. During the day, I'd prefer to sleep, work, eat, or recover. That being said, am I better off in SD or Sousa?

I just posted a travel notice. Anyone looking for the same as me who is headed there anytime soon, let me know if you want a travel partner.Sound like you have more of a traveling sight seeing spirit with the possibility and understanding of mongering. SD maybe what you are looking for. Being well travelled in the latin / south America I assume you understand and speak Spanish. You and a good wing man might have a better job than we did. We prefer pro and semi / pros and don't care much to just meet people. There is a Guy who is doing the "tourist thing" who posted right before you going the SD about the same time. You guys should hook up. Go on tagged and set yourself for a few non pro dates. If all else fells you can resort to Foxy's. Just be ready to folk out 70 st to 175 for one of those chicas. I have my man polo Charlie's number if you want it. He doesn't hit the streets until after 7. M and would rather show you the scenes (small clubs and bars) than the brothels. If you go to Sosua at night with hopes of hooking up with a non pro or semi / pro. Give the board her name and a picture and I bet they will bring you back to reality.

AtLuvHerSoGud
11-12-13, 07:04
You and a good wing man might have a better job than we did. We prefer pro and semi / pros and don't care much to just meet people. There is a Guy who is doing the "tourist thing" who posted right before you going the SD about the same time. You guys should hook up. Go on tagged and set yourself for a few non pro dates. If all else fells you can resort to Foxy's. Just be ready to folk out 70 st to 175 for one of those chicas.Cheers for the detailed reports, GrownMan1. Didn't know if perhaps youu were referring to me, but either way a wingman for Nov 22-23 would be a good idea.

Not having a ton of luck connecting with chicas on Tagged. Any suggestions? Also it could be because my situation's omplicated & I can't show my face in the profile pic, plus I'm not young or athletic. I'm not a slob or anything, in fact fairly alright for my age, but not a "hot" guy. Haha.

BTW- If you could post Charlie's # I'd appreciate it just in case.

Thanks

SavePros321
11-12-13, 19:20
Not having a ton of luck connecting with chicas on Tagged. Any suggestions? Also it could be because my situation's omplicated & I can't show my face in the profile pic, plus I'm not young or athletic. I'm not a slob or anything, in fact fairly alright for my age, but not a "hot" guy. Haha.Therein lies the source of your problem bro. You do not have to look like Brad Pitt, but chicas are not going to spend time communicating with a "faceless" profile. If the same thing does not work on American dating websites, then it absolutely will not work anywhere else.

If you do not plan on adding photos of yourself to your profile, you are pretty much just wasting your time. And plan on having multiple photos of yourself (anywhere from 3-5 should do). The same suspicion you get that a profile with one or two photos is probably a fake account cuts both ways.

Mr Enternational
11-12-13, 19:54
Therein lies the source of your problem bro. You do not have to look like Brad Pitt, but chicas are not going to spend time communicating with a "faceless" profile. If the same thing does not work on American dating websites, then it absolutely will not work anywhere else.I'd be curious to know what would happen if he posted a picture of a 1000 peso bill instead of his face.

Knowledge
11-13-13, 03:08
You a funny. This is like a Boricua comment. Very funny. I like it.


I'd be curious to know what would happen if he posted a picture of a 1000 peso bill instead of his face.

GrownMan1
11-13-13, 06:04
Cheers for the detailed reports, GrownMan1. Didn't know if perhaps youu were referring to me, but either way a wingman for Nov 22-23 would be a good idea.

Not having a ton of luck connecting with chicas on Tagged. Any suggestions? Also it could be because my situation's omplicated & I can't show my face in the profile pic, plus I'm not young or athletic. I'm not a slob or anything, in fact fairly alright for my age, but not a "hot" guy. Haha.

BTW- If you could post Charlie's # I'd appreciate it just in case.

ThanksPolo Charie 8295048097. I am not the SD expert, BQ is the man. He may have already touch bases with you with more help. I am with Mr E on this one! A picture of pesos is a good "Hello" for the chicas LOL. Try US currency, it will be like saying "you may not know or see me but I am American and you know my dead presidents" I wonder will a food stamp picture work as well?

Parkinsons
11-13-13, 17:01
I'd be curious to know what would happen if he posted a picture of a 1000 peso bill instead of his face.Haha Mr. E, funny you said that. Several days prior to my last trip, nervous that I still haven't gotten a chica committed, as a "hail Mary pass" I swapped out a real pic of myself with a pic of an Android phone, with the superimposed caption "esta tuyo". However, the site admin (cupid dot com) didn't allow it!

Cagep1967
11-13-13, 19:30
I'm answering a question put to me by another member, there are big breasted women (Very big DD or greater) at GBP, but along with that goes the body. These are not slim girls with big boobs. These are BBW, not my cup of tea, I got caught up staring at these women (there were 3) and almost went with one until her miniskirt revealed her gunt. Not for me.

But to each his own. If you like that sort of thing they are there now.

OldKool
11-14-13, 02:18
When I go to Santo Domingo I have girls who meet with me for short vacations. The girls and I have very good relationships.

We go dancing, beaches and discos. The girls are non pros and semi pros. I can not express my pleasure with the encounters. Waking up in the middle night with a soft young body next to me blows my mind.

EarlOHara
11-14-13, 02:57
I just posted a travel notice. Anyone looking for the same as me who is headed there anytime soon, let me know if you want a travel partner.Just saw your posting, I have a travel announcement already set up. I will be going to DR staying in Boca Chica atan all inclusive, which includes liquor too. Looking to offset my cost by sharing as I paid for me and 2 friends but they wimped out on me. So it definitely be nice to have a wingman who also has a grasp on Latin culture, though my Spanish may not be as strong as yours. Send me a PM if you think you may be interested.

Ozzie1451
11-14-13, 03:57
When I go to Santo Domingo I have girls who meet with me for short vacations. The girls and I have very good relationships.

We go dancing, beaches and discos. The girls are non pros and semi pros. I can not express my pleasure with the encounters. Waking up in the middle night with a soft young body next to me blows my mind.Santo Domingo?

What do you pay to semi pros and non pros for overnight?

Charles Pooter
11-14-13, 17:18
What do you pay to semi pros and non pros for overnight?That is like that paradox in particle physics where doing the observation in itself affects the result. If you pay a non-pro she is no longer a non-pro. Does the changeover happen when cash changes hands? Or when the prospect of accepting money first enters her mind?

Send US15 by PayPal for my book "The Metaphysics of Mongering".

Cagep1967
11-14-13, 20:23
That is like that paradox in particle physics where doing the observation in itself affects the result. If you pay a non-pro she is no longer a non-pro. Does the changeover happen when cash changes hands? Or when the prospect of accepting money first enters her mind?

Send US15 by PayPal for my book "The Metaphysics of Mongering".Wikipedia definition of Amateur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur

With women there is no such thing as Amateur, every women is getting something or looking to get something out of it.

Purely non putas, want dinner, movies, gifts, etc. And then maybe you get some.

Putas, fee negotiated and the you get some.

What some on this board refer to as non-pros, want the promise of, dinner, movies, gifts, money and you will get some.

The difference between pros and non-pros is not the acceptance of money. In my opinion is what they do for a living, do the only have sex to gain money or do they hold some other type of employment?

None of the descriptions are indicative of the quality of the encounter. I've had all types and any given day any girl from any category could be a winner.

Jooks
11-14-13, 22:34
<<That is like that paradox in particle physics where doing the observation in itself affects the result.

Who woulda thunk this came from a monger site? Love it!

OldKool
11-14-13, 23:41
Truly there is very little difference between my non and semi chicas. I pay for their travel and buy something they want as a gift. I usually spend at least two days with them and have sex about 4 times a day when possible jajaaaj. The gift vary from a refurbished phone or a cheap tablet. Once they have their dream gift they try to drain every drop a leche in your body. The gift is never more then 150 dollars and I always give some traveling money 80 to 100 dollars, However I spend 2 or three days wifed up and getting GFE all day longl I have never not gotten my monies worth.


Santo Domingo?

What do you pay to semi pros and non pros for overnight?

Bravo
11-15-13, 18:53
Truly there is very little difference between my non and semi chicas. I pay for their travel and buy something they want as a gift. I usually spend at least two days with them and have sex about 4 times a day when possible jajaaaj. The gift vary from a refurbished phone or a cheap tablet. Once they have their dream gift they try to drain every drop a leche in your body. The gift is never more then 150 dollars and I always give some traveling money 80 to 100 dollars, However I spend 2 or three days wifed up and getting GFE all day longl I have never not gotten my monies worth.You never had a girl pull the "Sick Mother in the Hospital" trick after you gave her the present? I am surprised that non and semi chicas don't try to pull the same scam that the pros do. Or do you wait until the end of the 2 days to give her the present to make sure she doesn't run on you?

OldKool
11-15-13, 23:15
I cultivate my girls really well. We skype and talk every now and then so I show they go all out. Plus they are living a dream hot water great food and dancing all night. They are tryig to get more days not less. I go all out to have fun. No Igive them their gifts up front but sprinkle inexpensive surprises every now and then. These girls are proven champa who ring all my bells

QUOTE=Bravo; 1496686]You never had a girl pull the "Sick Mother in the Hospital" trick after you gave her the present? I am surprised that non and semi chicas don't try to pull the same scam that the pros do. Or do you wait until the end of the 2 days to give her the present to make sure she doesn't run on you?[/QUOTE]

Marc Anthony
11-15-13, 23:57
That is like that paradox in particle physics where doing the observation in itself affects the result. If you pay a non-pro she is no longer a non-pro. Does the changeover happen when cash changes hands? Or when the prospect of accepting money first enters her mind?

Send US15 by PayPal for my book "The Metaphysics of Mongering".I think Heisenberg discovered this principle of mongering in the 1930's. You can either know the price or whether she is a nonpro, but never both at the same time.

Charles Pooter
11-16-13, 19:46
I think Heisenberg discovered this principle of mongering in the 1930's. You can either know the price or whether she is a nonpro, but never both at the same time.. Good one!

Member #4643
11-18-13, 07:44
You never had a girl pull the "Sick Mother in the Hospital" trick after you gave her the present? I am surprised that non and semi chicas don't try to pull the same scam that the pros do. Or do you wait until the end of the 2 days to give her the present to make sure she doesn't run on you?I hate to admit this here, but I have made arrangements with non / semi pros to the point of sending small amounts of money by Western Union (for example to buy a cheap cell phone so we could talk) and / or giving them cash intended as the present for an entire weekend on day 1, only to have them disappear a few hours later. Yes, I have been scammed. And yes, it has been more than once (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).

Money up front is often part of the gamble. Many guys refuse to give a chica money / support in all of its forms. Believe me, I am always reluctant to do so, even though I give in on occasion. Most of the girls actually have appreciated the up front money. These ladies have not only stayed on, but paid me back many times over in passionate sex. Overall, I really haven't lost much money, and I really have had some incredible sexual experiences that I probably would not have had if I hadn't taken a risk. I am certain I will be scammed again, but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.

Grub1
11-19-13, 02:32
I hate to admit this here, but I have made arrangements with non / semi pros to the point of sending small amounts of money by Western Union (for example to buy a cheap cell phone so we could talk) and / or giving them cash intended as the present for an entire weekend on day 1, only to have them disappear a few hours later. Yes, I have been scammed. And yes, it has been more than once (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).

Money up front is often part of the gamble. Many guys refuse to give a chica money / support in all of its forms. Believe me, I am always reluctant to do so, even though I give in on occasion. Most of the girls actually have appreciated the up front money. These ladies have not only stayed on, but paid me back many times over in passionate sex. Overall, I really haven't lost much money, and I really have had some incredible sexual experiences that I probably would not have had if I hadn't taken a risk. I am certain I will be scammed again, but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.Easy going out look on the situation. We all are different. Doing what works for you is what it is all about

Knowledge
11-19-13, 04:40
You can refuse and send a message at the same time. Tell them "no because I have to buy medicine for a sick relative and I need to pay for Spanish lessons so I can get a job and support you when I move to the Dominican Republic." Most girls will recognize the stories.


I hate to admit this here, but I have made arrangements with non / semi pros to the point of sending small amounts of money by Western Union (for example to buy a cheap cell phone so we could talk) and / or giving them cash intended as the present for an entire weekend on day 1, only to have them disappear a few hours later. Yes, I have been scammed. And yes, it has been more than once (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).

Money up front is often part of the gamble. Many guys refuse to give a chica money / support in all of its forms. Believe me, I am always reluctant to do so, even though I give in on occasion. Most of the girls actually have appreciated the up front money. These ladies have not only stayed on, but paid me back many times over in passionate sex. Overall, I really haven't lost much money, and I really have had some incredible sexual experiences that I probably would not have had if I hadn't taken a risk. I am certain I will be scammed again, but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.

Boriman
11-19-13, 06:14
. (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.

If you have been scammed once a year you are doing well. When I travel to DR I never ask myself if I will be scammed or not, but rather how I will be scammed and by how much. I do not live in DR but do speak the language and have been going there for over a decade. There has not been a trip where someone, somewhere, did not try to scam me. Anywhere from overcharging me for a drink in a restaurant, to miscalculating the tax (always in the restaurant's favor) , to a taxi asking for a ludicrous amount to take me from point A to point B, to immigration at Santo Domingo asking for $10 to let me through (this happened to several tourists when they used to have the overstay tax) ; to the hotel asking me to pay the tab on a seafood dinner that I never ordered (had to tell the manager at El Candil, in Boca Chica [when it was open], that I never had a tab but always paid in cash [the secretary Christopher ordered it for himself, used my name, but did not realize that I never opened a tab! He just saw me sitting in the restaurant every day and assumed that I had one open.]) ; to not being given back the proper change, to making sure I receive the proper exchange rate when I go to a cashier. I can go on and on. With my language skills I can lessen, but not eliminate, the scams. Many mongers that I encounter simply do not see the scams since everything costs so much less in the DR as compared to the States.

I remember a chica on the beach trying to get me to buy a drink. When she quoted me the price I did a double take. She added that the price is what I would pay in New York, for the same drink. I had to remind her that we were not in New York. Usually, if it is not too much money I let them get away with it (do not want any trouble with the Politur, or with other locals, since I have seen occasions where situations have really gotten out of hand to the point that it would have just been simpler to pay up. This reminds me of my friend, who was by himself driving when he was stopped by the Politur. He could not understand why the officer was so angry when they gave him a ticket for not having his seat belt on. I explained that the officer wanted a bribe. A 500 DOP would have been more than enough. My friend did not know so he ended up with a ticket for 2500 DOP, that he had to go to the bank to have paid off). When I see a scam I never let it happen to me twice and I do my best to avoid certain scenarios.

Chicas scamming me are not my only concern and the number of scams pulled are only limited by the scammers' imagination. Unless someone lives in DR, and speaks the language (or knows someone on the island) it is hard not to be overcharged for something. There are good people in the DR and they are obviously not all scammers. Scamming is common in many parts of the world but I am guessing that in Developing countries this type of behavior is more prevalent. Even with all this the DR is still the cheapest bang for the buck.

Member #4643
11-19-13, 07:36
When I travel to DR I never ask myself if I will be scammed or not, but rather how I will be scammed and by how much. I do not live in DR but do speak the language and have been going there for over a decade. There has not been a trip where someone, somewhere, did not try to scam me. etc.When I referred to scammers, I was only referring to chicas who ask for money in advance of the performance. Its absolutely true that cab drivers (definitely the worst in Sto Domingo) , bar tenders, waiters, even medical doctors constantly try to add a propina to my bills in the DR. Incidentally, even when they are scamming, semi pros and non pros are ALWAYS a lot cheaper than the girls in the casas, but they take more effort, and are much more complicated to schedule.

Which brings me to the real point of this post (my last post was completely tangential due to a little too much time with my friend Johnny Walker Black). I am on my way back to Sto Domingo for four days of work and fun. In the past, I have always gone to the casas once or twice a day when things are slow, generally between my tagged. Com and hi5. Com girls. These girls are easy to line up, of course, but they are always late and they often do not show up. I have a novia there as well (unbelievable body and willing to do anything I ask as long as I help her out with her education). As she works in a papeleria until 10 pm, I can generally get in three or four girls a day (ie, the novia, a semi / non pro and one or two visits to a casa daily). Thanks to the miracle of viagra, my approach has worked like a charm for the last 8 years, but with the casas apparently under attack by the moral establishment, I am worried. I would hate to have to totally depend on my charms with the non / semi pros to get laid in Sto Domingo. I am simply not that charming.

Can someone ON THE GROUND tell me which casas, if any, are still open? My favorite casa, by the way, is Casa Teresa.

El Lobo Solo
11-19-13, 17:47
Arrived here after two nights in BC, see that area for my report. I was hoping to do more, but got a little tired and in the event decided to take it easy. I stayed in a hotel at the foot of Conde, and was expecting to find good hunting on the street scene. However, that did not work out as expected.

During the day, there are some street walkers, but fairly few and far between. In the evening there is a window, from about dark until maybe 11 PM when there are a few more women working the street. But I found there to be way more men than women, which is not a recipe for success.

So after watching from a park bench for several hours, I was ready to throw in the towel. All of the women were, frankly, not going to get close to my body, sorry. Either they were too young, too dirty, too ugly, too fat, or a hideous combination for my taste. When from out of no where a very short young woman, with appearance of a European sits next to me and starts a conversation. She starts talking about local real estate, which is exactly the best topic for me, and then we segue into a general conversation about her living in Holland and Europe for ten years. So this goes on for about a half hour, and she has aroused my curiosity. What in the world is this fairly sophisticated person doing talking to a stranger?

So I ask her if she wants to get a drink and a snack because I was wanting same anyway. Of course she agrees! We head down the road to one of the tonier bars for a snack and some Sangria. Conversation is really going well, and we are laughing, etc. Enjoying a chance encounter. Well, I'm a little suspicious by now, aren't you? Why would this young woman less than half my age by so enchanted by an old man like me?

So I test her about her motives, and she professes totally to be on the prowl, not a professional. Okay, I'm game. Let's head to my room. Yes sir, she wants to go. So there we head.

We go through the hotel security drill, and start to take off the clothes. Tada! It comes."Papi, I am broke, I have to pay my utilities, etc. Can you help me out with 5,000 Pesos?" This is what I was waiting for, and so I don't get mad, but I pretend to be mad."What, you have been lying to me all this time? I would never have asked you up here for 2,000 Pesos, much less 5,000. You have to leave now."

She goes down on the floor, half naked, begging me not to throw her out. She is crying, but not screaming. She begs for forgiveness. I don't need to give her anything, just don't throw her out. Etc. Etc. It was a great soap opera. After about 15 minutes of this I tell her okay, she can stay for awhile, and I will give her 2,000 Pesos if I am happy with her later. She agrees she was a bad girl and tries to make it up. Fun ensues. But I know I am in danger, and never let my guard down for a second with this woman.

She wants to stay overnight, but that is never going to happen. So after some wild times, I gently let her know it's time for her to go. She wants the money, so she agrees to leave quietly. We dress, I am making double sure nothing has been stolen from the room that I will have to pay for later, etc. She begs me to take her numbers, so I do. Then I pay her and take her to the street. No tip, no present for this woman. But strangely enough, a satisfying experience.

GrownMan1
11-20-13, 03:50
We go through the hotel security drill, and start to take off the clothes. Tada! It comes."Papi, I am broke, I have to pay my utilities, etc. Can you help me out with 5, 000 Pesos?" This is what I was waiting for, and so I don't get mad, but I pretend to be mad."What, you have been lying to me all this time? I would never have asked you up here for 2, 000 Pesos, much less 5, 000. You have to leave now."

She goes down on the floor, half naked, begging me not to throw her out. She is crying, but not screaming. She begs for forgiveness. I don't need to give her anything, just don't throw her out. Etc. Etc. It was a great soap opera. After about 15 minutes of this I tell her okay, she can stay for awhile, and I will give her 2, 000 Pesos if I am happy with her later. She agrees she was a bad girl and tries to make it up. Fun ensues. But I know I am in danger, and never let my guard down for a second with this woman.

She wants to stay overnight, but that is never going to happen. So after some wild times, I gently let her know it's time for her to go. She wants the money, so she agrees to leave quietly. We dress, I am making double sure nothing has been stolen from the room that I will have to pay for later, etc. She begs me to take her numbers, so I do. Then I pay her and take her to the street. No tip, no present for this woman. But strangely enough, a satisfying experience.[/QUOTE]Damn good read on both your parts. She read you and fed you the great conversation worth commanding your attention! 5000 pesos is a slap in the face and insulting but she in smart. Too guile. So you take control, drop her price, (she know that would happen) fuck her, enjoy sex, now walk her ass to the door! No need to sleep with one I open. SD chicas think they are the smartest! Good Job

Member #4643
11-20-13, 06:42
Arrived here after two nights in BC. . . .Can you tell me which casas are still open? I am guessing that the places near the zona colonial are the focus of the current shutdown, but I cannot find any real information here or on the internet.

Real time information from someone who is actually in the capitol would be very helpful to those of us planning a trip to the DR! Señor Lobo Solo, please inform us!

Revere
11-20-13, 13:50
Can you tell me which casas are still open? I am guessing that the places near the zona colonial are the focus of the current shutdown, but I cannot find any real information here or on the internet.

Real time information from someone who is actually in the capitol would be very helpful to those of us planning a trip to the DR! Señor Lobo Solo, please inform us!They are all open except for venecia night club. 305, skyhouse, casa theresa are all open. You need to get out and walk around and take a look for yourself.

Troubleman69
11-21-13, 01:23
Can you tell me which casas are still open? I am guessing that the places near the zona colonial are the focus of the current shutdown, but I cannot find any real information here or on the internet.

Real time information from someone who is actually in the capitol would be very helpful to those of us planning a trip to the DR! Señor Lobo Solo, please inform us!When I was there at the end of October, 2 or 3 of the casas on Pasteur had reopened. 305 and Venecia hadn't opened yet, but Revere is saying 305 is open now. Things can change fast, but I saw it with my own eyes at the end of October.

Grub1
11-21-13, 02:43
Arrived here after two nights in BC, see that area for my report. I was hoping to do more, but got a little tired and in the event decided to take it easy. I stayed in a hotel at the foot of Conde, and was expecting to find good hunting on the street scene. However, that did not work out as expected.

During the day, there are some street walkers, but fairly few and far between. In the evening there is a window, from about dark until maybe 11 PM when there are a few more women working the street. But I found there to be way more men than women, which is not a recipe for success.

So after watching from a park bench for several hours, I was ready to throw in the towel. All of the women were, frankly, not going to get close to my body, sorry. Either they were too young, too dirty, too ugly, too fat, or a hideous combination for my taste. When from out of no where a very short young woman, with appearance of a European sits next to me and starts a conversation. She starts talking about local real estate, which is exactly the best topic for me, and then we segue into a general conversation about her living in Holland and Europe for ten years. So this goes on for about a half hour, and she has aroused my curiosity. What in the world is this fairly sophisticated person doing talking to a stranger?

So I ask her if she wants to get a drink and a snack because I was wanting same anyway. Of course she agrees! We head down the road to one of the tonier bars for a snack and some Sangria. Conversation is really going well, and we are laughing, etc. Enjoying a chance encounter. Well, I'm a little suspicious by now, aren't you? Why would this young woman less than half my age by so enchanted by an old man like me?

So I test her about her motives, and she professes totally to be on the prowl, not a professional. Okay, I'm game. Let's head to my room. Yes sir, she wants to go. So there we head.

We go through the hotel security drill, and start to take off the clothes. Tada! It comes."Papi, I am broke, I have to pay my utilities, etc. Can you help me out with 5, 000 Pesos?" This is what I was waiting for, and so I don't get mad, but I pretend to be mad."What, you have been lying to me all this time? I would never have asked you up here for 2, 000 Pesos, much less 5, 000. You have to leave now."

She goes down on the floor, half naked, begging me not to throw her out. She is crying, but not screaming. She begs for forgiveness. I don't need to give her anything, just don't throw her out. Etc. Etc. It was a great soap opera. After about 15 minutes of this I tell her okay, she can stay for awhile, and I will give her 2, 000 Pesos if I am happy with her later. She agrees she was a bad girl and tries to make it up. Fun ensues. But I know I am in danger, and never let my guard down for a second with this woman.

She wants to stay overnight, but that is never going to happen. So after some wild times, I gently let her know it's time for her to go. She wants the money, so she agrees to leave quietly. We dress, I am making double sure nothing has been stolen from the room that I will have to pay for later, etc. She begs me to take her numbers, so I do. Then I pay her and take her to the street. No tip, no present for this woman. But strangely enough, a satisfying experience.Always nice getting what you desire for the price you want to pay

Revere
11-21-13, 22:41
When I was there at the end of October, 2 or 3 of the casas on Pasteur had reopened. 305 and Venecia hadn't opened yet, but Revere is saying 305 is open now. Things can change fast, but I saw it with my own eyes at the end of October.Venecia will reopen soon under a new policy women cannot sleep there no more. Beds were pulled out last week.

BoricuaOnline
11-24-13, 02:43
When from out of no where a very short young woman, with appearance of a European sits next to me and starts a conversation. She starts talking about local real estate, which is exactly the best topic for me, and then we segue into a general conversation about her living in Holland and Europe for ten years. So this goes on for about a half hour, and she has aroused my curiosity. What in the world is this fairly sophisticated person doing talking to a stranger?I had a similar experience a few years ago while seated on a bench on the park in front of the Hard Rock. From out of no where a very short young woman, with appearance of a dominican sits next to me and starts a conversation. She starts talking about sex, which is exactly the best topic for me, and then we segue into a general conversation about her living in Bonao and Santo Domingo her entire life. We had sex inside of my Mercure hotel room and she leaves.

BoricuaOnline
11-24-13, 02:54
Can someone ON THE GROUND tell me which casas, if any, are still open? My favorite casa, by the way, is Casa Teresa.I chatted a few minutes ago with one of my regulars (Waleska, former GBP girl) who works at Teresa , the place is open.

Member #4643
11-24-13, 03:05
I chatted a few minutes ago with one of my regulars (Waleska, former GBP girl) who works at Teresa , the place is open.I like Teresa because the girls are beautiful (but that is not unique) and there are rooms in the casa.

That means I can enjoy myself without the need to clean up my hotel room. My novia generally returns from her work at 10:30 pm.

Thanks for the info guys!

AtLuvHerSoGud
11-27-13, 08:51
Thanks for all the info & advice. I am happy to report that Tagged somehow managed to work for me in spite of not posting my face and I now have a Dominican novia as of Saturday night.

I can also validate OldKool's suggestion about getting a chica to come to SD from her village being a top experience. Used the meet me & feed to look for hotties and message them (in Spanish) making some clever remark regarding their pic or feedback post. Most were in SD, and started to get some responses to my "I'll be in SD & would like to meet you." Friday I heard back from one particular chica whose single photo on Tagged showed her as a total cutie saying she'd like to meet but she was in Cabrera on the far eastern tip of the DR. I figured I'd gamble and offer to pay her way to SD and could put her up in my hotel in her own bed if she needed. (Room was booked for up to 2 guests at the Hotel Barceló Santo Domingo. I believe formerly Hotel Lina. On Máximo Gonzalez at 27 de febrero) She begged me to come to Cabrera, but I said wasn't possible as I was flying out Sunday. She finally agreed to come to SD, but said she needed money for the bus and had to work Sunday at noon so would have to leave early that morning. I did a Western Union transfer to her that night when which was a pain because I was already in-country so got flagged by their fraud protection. However, it did allow me to get her real name in order to do the transfer, so I found her on Facebook to confirm those good looks. Of course, in order to pick up the transfer she would need my real name. Anyway, I figured worst case it wouldn't work out and I'd be out my $42 bucks and then have to go to a casa that night, but oh did it work out!

She got into SD in the afternoon, but I was busy. Eventually I was wondering if was going to come see me at my hotel as promised, but then again I figured if she were just trying to scam me she would have asked for more $$.

She meet me at my hotel, we chatted in the bar area, hit it off in spite of her being nervous about meeting me (still hadn't seen a pic of me in spite of me sending her to a site that had one) then decided to go get a bite. She's like 5 foot zero, cute as a button, funny, smart, but quiet. Likely due to being nervous. She recognizes this is a little crazy on her part given the very limited interaction we'd had prior, but I couch it in "blind date" terms saying we both are kind of taking a chance. I'm also telling her on the one hand I just want a romantic evening and nothing will happen between us unless she wants it to happen while on the other hand answering her queries of "You're not a killer are you?" with "If you die tonight it'll be from too much pleasure, but at least you'll die with a smile from ear to ear!" haha.

Eventually we're in my room (didn't bother to register her and no one asked) drinking champagne & listening to Pandora thanks to Viatun app on my Android phone via hotel Wi-Fi ($30 dollars for 4 days. What a ripoff!) , and she says she can't stay the night. I'm like "Oh, that would be a shame. You can totally stay here. I won't even touch you if you don't want me to." She finally agrees as long as I swear to wake her up at 6am to get a taxi."Of course, Bella."

Eventually we kiss, nice long DFK & a bit of nibbling, and I get over-zealous and start unzipping her dress. She zips it back up, and I help her, apologizing if I assumed to much. But I change the music and we start dancing, keep drinking, joking, drinking, and I tell her I'd like to give her a massage. She says she needs to use the bathroom, and then I hear the shower running. I consider getting naked under the covers or something, but then opt to make it more playful. I tie a t-shirt completely over my face & open the bathroom door saying "Sorry, I needed to use the restroom too, but I didn't want to disturb your privacy!" proceeding to fumble my way to sitting on the pot. She's cracking up. Works! She's not nervous anymore. I shower and come out.

More champagne, and we're both just wrapped in our towels, so I sit behind her at the head of the bed and start massaging her. Soon she's all over me with her kisses, and I lick the nape of her neck working my way down to her little breasts. She's shy and embarrassed they're so small, but I keep telling her how beautiful she is, because she really is! 25, tight little body, no gut, nice little booty, and even curvy except for not much up top. Eventually I get her on her back and am able to nibble her titties and they perk up instantly. She's ashamed and asks me to turn off the lights, but I ask her please not to because she's so beautiful and I want to be able to see her and remember our time together. She looks adoringly at me and agrees. I think she's not used to being told she's gorgeous and being treated with respect.

Then I go down on her. OMG! You'd think the way she bucked no one had ever sampled her sweet nectar! I don't let her off easy, though. I'm going to give her a night to remember that I won't forget either."Do you have a condom?" she asks? It's go time! Mish, then bring her to the edge of the bed as I stand, then have her ride me standing, back on the bed for more mish, cowgirl (asks me not to look at her & even covers my eyes when I open them) while she grinds on my thumb. The generic Cialis (bit half of a 20mg La Pela before the date, which worked great as I tend to be sensitive to drugs). When she asks if I've come yet. I tell her I get off by pleasuring her (true) and that it doesn't always happen for me (true) but it's ok (true-ish, because I wish I could count on coming every time). She's genuinely concerned."But, what can I do to help you?" "Just keep being gorgeous and enjoying yourself!" More cowgirl, then I raise her pelvis and drop her towards me so I can do the work, then ask her to change so I can do from behind. We're on the left side of the bed where I can see myself in the mirror as I enter her doggie style, slowly at first, and eventually ruthlessly and she is moaning and grunting right along with me! What an amazing little body! I finish and we tumble over to the other side of the bed heaving.

Wash up and we her in the other bed to sleep with her lying on my shoulder. She feels so nice. Kisses, and we're out. Wake up at 6 and before we head downstairs to her taxi she asks for cab fare back. I only have a $1000 peso bill so I give it to her since I'm leaving in a few hours and won't need it I already have a ride to the airport. Altogether, spent perhaps $4500 pesos for TLN, but you can't buy that true, real girl friend experience!

It really was unforgettable for me, and I know it was for her too. We've continued to chat on Whatsapp and she confirmed she came 3 times.

Berthold
11-27-13, 19:29
Thanks for all the info & advice. I am happy to report that Tagged somehow managed to work for me in spite of not posting my face and I now have a Dominican novia as of Saturday night.1. The moment she says,"I love your personality!"

2. She tells you about her sick donkey.

3. She tells you about her sick relatives.

3. She needs a new Iphone for "business."

4. She likes sushi and knows how to use chopsticks (despite coming from the countryside).

5. She tells you she is on the pill and there is no reason to pull out.

6. She needs longer hair extensions.

7. Her grandmother, grandfather, mother, father, brothers, sisters & neighbor are all in the hospital and need an organ transplant.

8. She needs bigger breasts.

9. She needs braces on her teeth.

10. She needs more Crayons for her coloring book.

11. When her grandmother dies for the fifth time that year.

12. When she keeps changing channels with the TV remote control-looking for a good novella-while you are working on her.

13. She orders the most expensive thing on the menu, but then refuses to eat it because she has never seen frog legs before.

14. When she insists that she needs longer hair extensions.

15. When she insists on the newest Blackberry.

16. When she keeps hanging up after calling you, but then gets angry when you do not call her back.

17. When a guy answers her phone, puts her on and she says.don't worry-I'll introduce you to mi primo "con mucho gusto cuando venga" when you ask who he is.

18. She needs a new passola (scooter) , but has no money for gas.

19. She spends all her free time on the computer, but does not read, but likes posting pictures of herself in different angelic positions that involve sticking her butt up in the air.

20. She brings all her friends with her on your dinner date, and then they all proceed to order the most expensive thing on the menu-which they can't pronounce, have no idea what it is, and then send it back because they don't like the taste.

21. She has no problem doing drugs.

22. She can drink more then you.

23. She does not look for a job, but wants to work in a bank despite not knowing math.

24. She never has phone minutes despite the fact that you are the one always calling her.

Knowledge
11-27-13, 23:21
You made out really good, only thing to change is get local internet from Claro or Orange for your Android phone next time, about 300 pesos for one week and 700MB. Nice because you can use it when you are away from the hotel and in the hotel. You probably did not care about internet while you were balls deep LOL!


Thanks for all the info & advice. I am happy to report that Tagged somehow managed to work for me in spite of not posting my face and I now have a Dominican novia as of Saturday night.

I can also validate OldKool's suggestion about getting a chica to come to SD from her village being a top experience. Used the meet me & feed to look for hotties and message them (in Spanish) making some clever remark regarding their pic or feedback post. Most were in SD, and started to get some responses to my "I'll be in SD & would like to meet you." Friday I heard back from one particular chica whose single photo on Tagged showed her as a total cutie saying she'd like to meet but she was in Cabrera on the far eastern tip of the DR. I figured I'd gamble and offer to pay her way to SD and could put her up in my hotel in her own bed if she needed. (Room was booked for up to 2 guests at the Hotel Barceló Santo Domingo. I believe formerly Hotel Lina. On Máximo Gonzalez at 27 de febrero) She begged me to come to Cabrera, but I said wasn't possible as I was flying out Sunday. She finally agreed to come to SD, but said she needed money for the bus and had to work Sunday at noon so would have to leave early that morning. I did a Western Union transfer to her that night when which was a pain because I was already in-country so got flagged by their fraud protection. However, it did allow me to get her real name in order to do the transfer, so I found her on Facebook to confirm those good looks. Of course, in order to pick up the transfer she would need my real name. Anyway, I figured worst case it wouldn't work out and I'd be out my $42 bucks and then have to go to a casa that night, but oh did it work out!

She got into SD in the afternoon, but I was busy. Eventually I was wondering if was going to come see me at my hotel as promised, but then again I figured if she were just trying to scam me she would have asked for more $$...

Tempoecorto
11-27-13, 23:42
Thanks for all the info & advice.

It really was unforgettable for me, and I know it was for her too. We've continued to chat on Whatsapp and she confirmed she came 3 times.Lovely account of a positive experience! Enjoyed reading it. By the way, next time you need to do it, Caribe express (they are also a bus company and does shipping of packages on the island as well) is a much better option for sending the passage money when you are inside the country and costs less too I believe. 50 pesos if I recall correctly each transaction.

GrownMan1
11-28-13, 00:21
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Eventually we kiss, nice long DFK & a bit of nibbling, and I get over-zealous and start unzipping her dress. She zips it back up, and I help her, apologizing if I assumed to much. But I change the music and we start dancing, keep drinking, joking, drinking, and I tell her I'd like to give her a massage. She says she needs to use the bathroom, and then I hear the shower running. I consider getting naked under the covers or something, but then opt to make it more playful. I tie a t-shirt completely over my face & open the bathroom door saying "Sorry, I needed to use the restroom too, but I didn't want to disturb your privacy!" proceeding to fumble my way to sitting on the pot. She's cracking up. Works! She's not nervous anymore. I shower and come out.

- smart move you made her feel comfortable-

Then I go down on her. OMG! You'd think the way she bucked no one had ever sampled her sweet nectar! I don't let her off easy, though. I'm going to give her a night to remember that I won't forget either."Do you have a condom?"

- I don't understand this eating then pulling on the condom thing, must be and over 40 over.

Wash up and we her in the other bed to sleep with her lying on my shoulder. She feels so nice. Kisses, and we're out. Wake up at 6 and before we head downstairs to her taxi she asks for cab fare back. I only have a $1000 peso bill so I give it to her since I'm leaving in a few hours and won't need it I already have a ride to the airport. Altogether, spent perhaps $4500 pesos for TLN, but you can't buy that true, real girl friend experience!

It really was unforgettable for me, and I know it was for her too. We've continued to chat on Whatsapp and she confirmed she came 3 times.- Super man! Way to go.

GrownMan1
11-28-13, 00:26
[QUOTE=Berthold; 1501367]1.

13. She orders the most expensive thing on the menu, but then refuses to eat it because she has never seen frog legs before.

I only one I haven't seen. My chica ate the legs.

OldKool
11-28-13, 04:02
A few observations. You had a great time and made some good moves. A few suggestions. I assume the pussy will be given. I make this clear before I invite the girl to come. We will be staying at the ABC hotel "ok". I am not pushy but I am a bit more direct. Never the less you were smooth. It cost to much money and time for misses. However making love, not fucking, is a huge turn on. You can do this with the kind of girl you had. I love to fuck to but going down on 25 year old who has not had much experience is a dream come true. You got me motivated.

[QUOTE=AtLuvHerSoGud; 1501192]Thanks for all the info & advice. I am happy to report that Tagged somehow managed to work for me in spite of not posting my face and I now have a Dominican novia as of Saturday night.

I can also validate OldKool's suggestion about getting a chica to come to SD from her village being a top experience. Used the meet me & feed to look for hotties and message them (in Spanish) making some clever remark regarding their pic or feedback post. Most were in SD, and started to get some responses to my "I'll be in SD & would like to meet you." Friday I

Buscemi
11-28-13, 15:01
A few observations.How hard is it to hit "QUOTE" and not touch the brackets?

Charles Pooter
11-28-13, 16:01
How hard is it to hit "QUOTE" and not touch the brackets?Apparently you need a doctorate in IT to use the quote function correctly. And even if that is mastered there is an even higher hurdle to overcome. Learning not to quote all 500 lines of a post so that you can comment on a single point made in it.

AtLuvHerSoGud
11-28-13, 16:41
A few observations. You had a great time and made some good moves. A few suggestions. I assume the pussy will be given. I make this clear before I invite the girl to come. We will be staying at the ABC hotel "ok". I am not pushy but I am a bit more direct. Never the less you were smooth. It cost to much money and time for misses. However making love, not fucking, is a huge turn on. You can do this with the kind of girl you had. I love to fuck to but going down on 25 year old who has not had much experience is a dream come true. You got me motivated.Cheers, man! I hear ya about setting expectations up front. I was clear when inviting her to visit me from Cabrera that she should stay with me. I just always had the backup of going to a casa to get serviced if this fell through, but as you note. One thing is getting serviced while it's quite another to make love to a beautiful young woman who's into you because you're different from any man she's ever met! It's a bigger investment of time, and it's a delicate dance, but OMG is the payoff worth the effort if it happens. Hence, I was willing to take a gamble on her, and I totally hit the jackpot. (Over & over & over that night! Hahaha)

Thanks for the tips about money transfer via Caribe Express & about internet via cellular providers. I needed internet to finish something for work the night I arrived, so they had me by the balls as it were!

Anyway, guys, it's been a pleasure. No further trips to DR planned at this point, so guess I'll be dropping out of sight until the next one. Again, I appreciate everyone's generosity providing valuable info & tips on this board, and I wish each of you a Happy Thanksgiving!

P. S. If anyone is traveling to SD & can pick me up a t-shirt from El Agave restaurant "I 3 Margaritas" in a size large, let me know. I'll pay ya back double! Just thought back that would be a nice keepsake of our evening together as that's where we went to dinner. (BTW. It wasn't bad for Mexican in the DR! Their salsa was quite spicy. Haha).

Member #4643
11-29-13, 22:09
I must admit that even though I have met a dozen girls through Tagged, Badoo and Cybercupido, I never know how to maximize my chances of getting laid the first time in meeting after an on line encoutner.

On the one hand, if I am explicit in my messages with the girls, they often get nervous or upset that I am treating them like a puta. If, for example, I state that I am generous and if they become my lover, I will give them a present, most do not respond, and about 10% respond angrily. On the other hand, a few girls do respond, and I have fucked a some of these. I have three girls lined up for my next trip like this, but only one of them is really beautiful. My current SD girlfriend was found this way (it is really juggling my time for her not to know I am screwing girls on the side, but that is an entirely different conversation).

Sometimes, I suggest a girl from out of town visit the capitol (at my expense) , with the understanding that a round trip in the same day is impossible. This approach has not worked, but I have only tried it a few times.

And then, there are the girls I invite out to meet me, whom I just try and charm until they are in bed with me. About 3/4s of the girls will have sex within two dates. But, my trips are short these days, and I have lost my patience for this. In the past, I would always go to a casa if the girls refused to come back to my hotel.

In any case, any thoughts about the most effective and time saving way to get a non pro into bed? Some of you guys, from what I have read, have this down to a science.

Tempoecorto
11-30-13, 04:28
In any case, any thoughts about the most effective and time saving way to get a non pro into bed? Some of you guys, from what I have read, have this down to a science.I do not know about others, but if you are dealing with true "non-pros", it is always an ART, to my mind! I have at least on 3/4 occasions, been rebuffed despite some petting. I guess some others would force himself but I never felt the need for that in life. And the women there remember the difference and gift themselves to you. A much more pleasant experience.

1. How good is your Spanish? It makes a lot of difference between coming off as crass and having style even when you are asking for the same thing, especially if you are dealing with the "city" kinds.

2. How much time do you spend in pre-visit wooing? I speak with the women I like for weeks and so what you cannot broach the very first time, may be easier, on the "seventh" conversation as the women get to read you too and stay relaxed.

3. Granted the DR women are rather generous about giving it up fairly quickly. Drawn by the gifts and money and who knows what else but still tact is useful. Which means you will have to read the person. Seeing the pictures may give you some lead. Some are easy, some easier and some are impossible. As you categorize, you can invite people in that order so, if you get the difficult ones towards the latter part of the trip, you are not in a bad place. I still have not bedded one woman I was absolutely interested in. She just would not do it but for "love", neither did she ask for any gift whatsoever and I never lie saying I am looking for love or a novia etc.

4. I give an example of a fairly easy one below. This one might have been a third conversation. I have not tried her nor seen her but I believe she would be amenable:

T. Mercoledì.13 novembre 2013 00:17

Tienes whatsapp babe?

X- no

T. Ah. No tienes blackberry?

X- no

T. Hmm. Si me haces contento. Te llevare uno

X- como asi

T. No se. Viendo tus fotos me viene esa idea

X- cual

T. Que eres una mujer que pueda sodisfacer un hombre babe

X- ejjejeje si

T. Eres bella why sensual. Podriamos pasar tiempo juntos disfrutando. Si te invito a Santiago

X- sip, why cuando vas a Santiago.

Camaro1257
12-02-13, 20:39
Internet Strategy:

I used the below listed internet strategy in my most recent Cabarete and Sosua trip. I am expounding on it in preparation for my La Romana and Punta Cana trip in a few weeks. Below I have listed my notes for those who are interested in internet mining for chicas:

I have previously used the internet in search of chicas but not as extensively as I did in preparation for this trip. In my free time I decided to mine for chicas using Hanzo's strategy on the internet hoping to strike gold in either Dominican Cupid, Latin American Cupid, Badoo or Tagged. I created an alternate Facebook page and got the Whatsapp application for my smart phone.

Whatsapp:

Whatsapp is a message application for smart phones which connects with other users who have It can send multi-media messages such as photo attachments. Whatsapp allows users to message them for the low price of. 99 per year. It is for this reason it is popular amongst many chicas who have smart phones. Whatsapp is important for those who desire to communicate with chicas internationally because it is an inexpensive way to stay connected to those you desire to stay connected with.

For those who are interested you can follow the below listed steps to make contact with internet chicas:

Set my search criteria for location and physical type.

Send responses to everyone I find attractive for example:"La Linda Morena, ahora que he visto tus fotos creo que el cielo es falta un angel"

Carry a conversation with the respondents until I get their telephone numbers and Facebook contacts.

Initiate Facebook contact.

Follow up with text messages on Whatsapp.

While on Whatsapp see if they can provide pictures for confirmation as to their identity.

Many of us complain about hard core chicas las cueros but if we want a different experience perhaps we need to try something different. Using the internet takes more effort and energy than going straight to a casa de cita or freelance venue but this different approach to meeting chicas has the potential to be very fruitful. Below I have listed some thoughts to consider when you use the internet to meet chicas:

Many chicas do not have ready access to the internet the way we do so your response might be delayed. It is possible to make a good connection that may be difficult to maintain do to intermittent internet usage.

This method is only recommended for those who have time and patience because it can be time consuming. The challenge that most of us face is that time is not our friend while on vacation. Since most of us have a limited amount of time on vacation we want to maximize the time we have. This process will allow you to get through the preliminaries with a chica in the comfort of your own home.

The process of going from internet source to Facebook and then to 'Whatsapp' for text chatting can be laborious but it gives both parties an opportunity to discover the expectations of the other. The communication process is very important because you want to be able to vet the chicas that do not fit your agenda because while on vacation your time and dollars are limited, therefore you want the greatest return for your investment. After communication with them you will be able to rank them according to how they respond to you and the type of connection you believe you have. Once you hit the ground you contact them according to their ranking and how they respond to you.

All chicas do not have Facebook however if they do every effort should be made to 'friend' them so that you have access to their page. The Facebook connection gives you an opportunity to view their photos and get a sense of who they are. Facebook photos are generally more descriptive than the photos posted on dating sites.

The vetting process should include trying to view as many face and body photos as possible so you can avoid being "catfished."

Unless you have been referred to the chica by a monger or there is something in her profile to indicate she is PFP (eg: profile pictures in lingerie) I would not assume the chica you are communicating with wants money in exchange for sex, if you do you might get your feelings hurt. I met everything from virtuous religious women to those who went straight for the jugular asking for "cien."

The process is excellent for those who are interested in learning the language. If your language skills are weak you can use a translator during the process which should help you in the overall goal of learning the language. Corresponding with them by text gives you another opportunity to feel them out and decide which path you want to take with each individual chica.

Some of these women are clearly buscando relacion seria. I do not recommend playing with any one's feelings and I encourage those who use this strategy to be as honest as possible. Some of the women I communicated with were very religious and were quite explicit about their virtue. My suggestion is if their profile is overly serious or they say anything that indicates there is going to be drama I would immediately abort. Hasta luego Bonita!

It should be noted that getting telephone numbers is relatively easy. I was able to obtain numbers within the 3rd message however connecting with the chicas once you hit the ground can prove to be far more difficult. The chicas flirt a lot and it should be understood you are not the only one they are communicating with.

I am enjoying the process because it is helping me with my Spanish and I am getting a rush communicating with some bonitas chicas. There is nothing like a chica calling you "Lindo" or "Querido" I absolutely love the attention! I simply let the chicas I am interested in know I am looking for a friendship and that I will only be in the country a short time. I let them know if they feel comfortable enough to share quality time with me I will gladly give them a "regalo."

As in all things YMMV.

SavePros321
12-04-13, 16:05
For those who are interested you can follow the below listed steps to make contact with internet chicas:

Set my search criteria for location and physical type.

Send responses to everyone I find attractive for example:"La Linda Morena, ahora que he visto tus fotos creo que el cielo es falta un angel"

Carry a conversation with the respondents until I get their telephone numbers and Facebook contacts.

Initiate Facebook contact.

Follow up with text messages on Whatsapp.

While on Whatsapp see if they can provide pictures for confirmation as to their identity.

All chicas do not have Facebook however if they do every effort should be made to 'friend' them so that you have access to their page. The Facebook connection gives you an opportunity to view their photos and get a sense of who they are. Facebook photos are generally more descriptive than the photos posted on dating sites.

The vetting process should include trying to view as many face and body photos as possible so you can avoid being "catfished."Very good, detailed process outlay bro. I personally find that any chica who does not have a facebook account and only Whatsapp or Skype I do not spend much time chatting with.

Facebook is like a 2nd step verification process. You do not know if you are actually chatting with the chica in the photo if only using Dominican Cupid or Whatsapp. It is real easy to get, as you say,"Catfished" putting in too much time on Whatsapp and getting overly-invested with the chica without verifying she is who she says she is.

I get what you are saying about the "pictures for confirmation as to their identity" for Whatsapp, but if they just send you the same photos on their Dominican Cupid profile, or if the Whatsapp user steals multiple photos of the same chica he or she is portraying to be, then it is of no use.

Facebook is more accurate because chicas will usually have their family and friends as "fb friends", which in turn confirms their identity.

Camaro1257
12-04-13, 23:18
Very good, detailed process outlay bro. I personally find that any chica who does not have a facebook account and only Whatsapp or Skype I do not spend much time chatting with.

Facebook is like a 2nd step verification process. You do not know if you are actually chatting with the chica in the photo if only using Dominican Cupid or Whatsapp. It is real easy to get, as you say,"Catfished" putting in too much time on Whatsapp and getting overly-invested with the chica without verifying she is who she says she is.

I get what you are saying about the "pictures for confirmation as to their identity" for Whatsapp, but if they just send you the same photos on their Dominican Cupid profile, or if the Whatsapp user steals multiple photos of the same chica he or she is portraying to be, then it is of no use.

Facebook is more accurate because chicas will usually have their family and friends as "fb friends", which in turn confirms their identity.I am still a beginner using social media in this thing of ours so I am still tweaking my over all strategy, but I agree that Facebook is one of the best confirmations of a woman's identity there is on line.

Arainmain
12-06-13, 17:09
I remember several members fo this forum mentioning Mundo Anuncio post of Santo Domingo providers (as the famous Yani. Still working now avenida España and and even long time ago Waleska-on-line now at Casa Boricua. But mundo anuncio has gone. Were are these nice friendly people posting their ads?

Alex Deuce
12-07-13, 02:25
I remember several members fo this forum mentioning Mundo Anuncio post of Santo Domingo providers (as the famous Yani. Still working now avenida España and and even long time ago Waleska-on-line now at Casa Boricua. But mundo anuncio has gone. Were are these nice friendly people posting their ads?She is on every kind of ad imaginable. She been stuck and used at an alarming rate. Her goods smell like condoms.

Ozzie1451
12-07-13, 14:26
i am at last here in sd after changing my plans several times after reading the posts on this board. i tried to get to know some women through dominican cupid before my arrival. one woman wanted to meet me at airport. i have called fabio and made arrangements to take me and girl from airport to hotel. he took us to jaguar apart studios. i was very dependent on fabio first two days since this was my first trip to dr and i knew nothing about the country and i don't speak spanish. he took us around the town. i went to puerto plata to experience fod. i took a bus. i have called carlos from bus station. he came quickly and took me to fod which is very close to bus station.

hotel: jaguar apart studios was comfortable $55 a night. i had no problems with anything and happy with my stay there and no questions asked when it comes to girls. my only minor issue was that i was not told how much a night it will be. i have stayed one night a mystik very close to jaguar apart studios. it was $45 including free breakfast. it was similar to jaguar apart studios only how water was lukewarm adjusted at one temperature. they asked i'd's of the girls to make sure that they are not ****. otherwise no problems.

fabio: i told him that i am very fair and honest person, heard good and bad things about him i wanted him to be fair with me. he did not ask any money first three days like hotel also. i told him how much i owed him after 3 days and to be fair. he asked too much. i did not say anything and paid him. but i told him how much i will pay him from now on. he said ok. i used him because he speaks english, friendly and just in case to meet his girls if i have no luck myself to get a girl.

girls: the girl came with me to hotel. she was a nice girl none-pro. better than average looking. we communicated through the google translator and it worked out. she works 4 to 12 pm. fabio took her to work next day and i told her i want to meet her every other day. i wanted to have my freedom and check out other girls. she came to my room next day after work with her clothes and moved into my hotel room. she used another taxi driver almost half the cost fabio wanted to get. she stayed with me all the time, going to work and coming to hotel after work. i liked it from one hand to spend my time with a woman all the time but also disappointed a little since i lost my freedom. we went for shopping she needed a smart phone for $100. she was very happy and $100 was nothing for what i was getting. she sensed it and asked more gifts but i said no right away based on recommendations here. i was very anxious to meet other women and come to fod. i was walking next to ocean and met fabio in front of casino with a girl. she was very attractive for my taste a skinny girl with good size boobs. i met an arrangement with her and fabio to meet her at night. i told my live in girl i am going to puerto plata and moved to mystik. fabio's girl did not call and showed up. he took me to meet me his other girls. he called one girl, we met her, i did not like her and fabio said he made a mistake she was not the girl she had on his mind for me. she was very disappointed that i did not like her. i felt sad and said yes to her. we went to mystik. we chatted a little bit. she started to get her clothes off and her body was not in good shape. i asked her to have bbbj. he said no and told me to use a condom. i am already turned off at this point. i said it is ok if she does not want to do it i just pay her. she gave a very mediocre bbbj. i was disappointed and decided to go to fod next morning.

bus ride. i took a taxi from hotel to caribe tours. 200-200 dp. they have a bus every hour. bus was comfortable and enjoyed the ride through country side. i called carlos from bus station and he came quickly charged me 300 dp for the ride. very polite and nice man. i would recommend everybody to use him when in puerto plata.

fod. they showed me their best room first but i settled for $52 room. i sat around and watched the girls and two of them were very friendly and showed close attention i decided to take one of them when i am ready. later i went to bar and an student from santo domingo came and started to talk to me. she had very nice body. i decided on her and we went to my room. she did not like kissing which is no problem for me. she was reluctant with oral started a hand job i said no. then she started to ask me to put the condom on and she was rushing no interest to provide a good service. i said ok and let me finish this. so this was my second disappointment back to back.

i woke up early this morning. i am missing the none-pro girl badly and have a very strong desire to spend my last in dr with her. but i paid hotel for tonight. so i will go to puerto plata and spend my day there. i don't know if i try tonight again to see if i get a little better luck.

SavePros321
12-07-13, 15:55
i am at last here in sd after changing my plans several times after reading the posts on this board. i tried to get to know some women through dominican cupid before my arrival. one woman wanted to meet me at airport. i have called fabio and made arrangements to take me and girl from airport to hotel. he took us to jaguar apart studios. i was very dependent on fabio first two days since this was my first trip to dr and i knew nothing about the country and i don't speak spanish. he took us around the town. i went to puerto plata to experience fod. i took a bus. i have called carlos from bus station. he came quickly and took me to fod which is very close to bus station.

hotel: jaguar apart studios was comfortable $55 a night. i had no problems with anything and happy with my stay there and no questions asked when it comes to girls. my only minor issue was that i was not told how much a night it will be. i have stayed one night a mystik very close to jaguar apart studios. it was $45 including free breakfast. it was similar to jaguar apart studios only how water was lukewarm adjusted at one temperature. they asked i'd's of the girls to make sure that they are not ****. otherwise no problems.

fabio: i told him that i am very fair and honest person, heard good and bad things about him i wanted him to be fair with me. he did not ask any money first three days like hotel also. i told him how much i owed him after 3 days and to be fair. he asked too much. i did not say anything and paid him. but i told him how much i will pay him from now on. he said ok. i used him because he speaks english, friendly and just in case to meet his girls if i have no luck myself to get a girl.good report ozzie. hopefully things will get better for you on the remainder of your trip.

just like you should do with the chicas, always ask for the price up front. don't open a tab at any bars or discos in the dr, and definitely do not have a tab running with a guy like fabio (or any taxista or guide) because you will end up getting overcharged. always pay as you go.

hotels are a little different. you either pay for the entire stay upon check in, or pay per day in case you want to move to a different hotel. but always make sure you know what the cost is per night going in.

Mr Gogo
12-07-13, 17:25
Good report Ozzie. Hopefully things will get better for you on the remainder of your trip.

Just like you should do with the chicas, always ask for the price up front. Don't open a tab at any bars or discos in the DR, and definitely do not have a tab running with a guy like Fabio (or any taxista or guide) because you will end up getting overcharged. Always pay as you go.

Hotels are a little different. You either pay for the entire stay upon check in, or pay per day in case you want to move to a different hotel. But always make sure you know what the cost is per night going in.Great advice Savepros and thanks for posting Ozzie. I think the best lesson you learned is to keep good pussy close by. My boys are always complaining that I lock into one girl quickly but I got to have fun with good pussy for awhile. When I'm spending a few days getting fucked and sucked real good my boys are still arguing with hardcore chic and getting condom blow jobs and 20 minute fucks. If you had good chemistry with the airport girl, then roll with her. But it might cost you another 100 phone because she will probably say she lost that one LOL. OH! And don't tell her you went to FOD.

GrownMan1
12-08-13, 05:45
Fabio: I told him that I am very fair and honest person, heard good and bad things about him I wanted him to be fair with me. He did not ask any money first three days like hotel also. I told him how much I owed him after 3 days and to be fair. He asked too much. I did not say anything and paid him. But I told him how much I will pay him from now on. He said OK. I used him because he speaks English, friendly and just in case to meet his girls if I have no luck myself to get a girl.

Girls: The girl came with me to hotel. She was a nice girl none-pro. Better than average looking. We communicated through the google translator and it worked out. She works 4 to 12 PM. Fabio took her to work next day and I told her I want to meet her every other day. I wanted to have my freedom and check out other girls. She came to my room next day after work with her clothes and moved into my hotel room.

We went for shopping she needed a smart phone for $100. She was very happy and $100 was nothing for what I was getting. She sensed it and asked more gifts but I said no right away based on recommendations here.

He called one girl, we met her, I did not like her and Fabio said he made a mistake she was not the girl she had on his mind for me. She was very disappointed that I did not like her. I felt sad and said yes to her.

We went to Mystik. We chatted a little bit. She started to get her clothes off and her body was not in good shape. I asked her to have BBBJ. He said no and told me to use a condom. I am already turned off at this point. I said it is OK if she does not want to do it I just pay her. She gave a very mediocre BBBJ. I was disappointed and decided to go to FOD next morning.

FOD. Later I went to bar and an student from Santo Domingo came and started to talk to me. She had very nice body. I decided on her and we went to my room. She did not like kissing which is no problem for me. She was reluctant with oral started a hand job I said no. Then she started to ask me to put the condom on and she was rushing no interest to provide a good service. I said OK and let me finish this. So this was my second disappointment back to back.You sound like a nice guy (its not good for mongers in the DR) and it seems people are reading it and using it against you. I hope you wake up a cheap mongering an asshole. Hell bent on telling a chica what you expect her to do, what you are going to pay her, and no bullshit or find no deal. Change your character if you can. Fuck it man its your money and your vacation! I to was a victim of being too nice and the first chica screwed me on time. Most nice guy don't get good fucks they get fucked! I salute you for taking you first trip solo. Good luck!

Mr Gogo
12-08-13, 06:32
You sound like a nice guy (its not good for mongers in the DR) and it seems people are reading it and using it against you. I hope you wake up a cheap mongering an asshole. Hell bent on telling a chica what you expect her to do, what you are going to pay her, and no bullshit or find no deal. Change your character if you can. Fuck it man its your money and your vacation! I to was a victim of being too nice and the first chica screwed me on time. Most nice guy don't get good fucks they get fucked! I salute you for taking you first trip solo. Good luck!On the contrary my friend, nice guy get good fucks also. The key is to incorporate niceness with common sense. Never change your character, just make adjustments but maintain who you are. I relish being the nice guy but once the respect line is crossed I can flip the niceness with seriousness and closure. Then you will see the real character of the girl. Its humbling for the girl to have to re-establish herself and will lead to mutual respect. In fact it actually gives you the upper hand. The hardcore dudes I know never really get the respect from the chic, they usually caught the girl at a vulnerable moment and the girl sacrifices dignity for money. A girl will respect you more for being nice and standing up to her hustle verses a guy who devalues her worth and takes her dignity. Learn the hard lessons but incorporate them into your niceness and you will grow. Try to be a hardcore monger and girls will turn their noses up and run away as fast as possible unless they are hardcore and desperate.

Member #4643
12-08-13, 09:12
I am looking for a place to get a massage with happy ending / BBBJ / full service in the MORNING before I go to work (I have the afternoons and night figured out). I am in Sto Domingo for five days this week. I noticed that there are quite a few places that offer erotic massage, but I cannot really see any recommendations.

Tempoecorto
12-08-13, 23:38
On the contrary my friend, nice guy get good fucks also. The key is to incorporate niceness with common sense.I absolutely concur!

My exposure to Sosua is limited but these days, all I read in that forum is how terrible the women are and how the boys should band together to defend against the clique of women out to get you. Yadi yada. Even when the veterans like yourself and Tomjackin continue to have fun there! (Too bad, there is no one to defend Santo Domingo these days.). So I wonder if the composition of visitors have changed so much to have caused the reaction. It is like Newton's third law whereby the reaction (of the women) is equivalent in magnitude but in opposite direction to the action (of men). If you are not one of such men, chances are other men set up the action and the reaction is being aimed at you, happenstance.

Common sense, not being drunk, not being loud, not being in a large group or showing off are all sensible advice that work in a market place that is not very well regulated even in the first world (let alone professional) so I presume there will always be some with bad karma who would wake up to be surprised. Elementary, as Holmes would proclaim!

GrownMan1
12-09-13, 14:25
On the contrary my friend, nice guy get good fucks also. The key is to incorporate niceness with common sense. Never change your character, just make adjustments but maintain who you are. I relish being the nice guy but once the respect line is crossed I can flip the niceness with seriousness and closure. Then you will see the real character of the girl. Its humbling for the girl to have to re-establish herself and will lead to mutual respect. In fact it actually gives you the upper hand. The hardcore dudes I know never really get the respect from the chic, they usually caught the girl at a vulnerable moment and the girl sacrifices dignity for money. A girl will respect you more for being nice and standing up to her hustle verses a guy who devalues her worth and takes her dignity. Learn the hard lessons but incorporate them into your niceness and you will grow. Try to be a hardcore monger and girls will turn their noses up and run away as fast as possible unless they are hardcore and desperate.What you say carries weight, but I am on the side of non or very little Spanish speaking mongers. You, Tom, Charles, Mr E and Olkool and true Vets. Ustedes hablan español and can handle situations like Matadors. Some of us are in the "lie to avoid problems faze". My mans has commons sense, however, he has been over priced, and two bad fucks for being to nice. Call it incorporations, adjustments, or flipping. A change of the character is needed. Its doesn't change the person; it all apart of us. I would rather a chica turn her nose up and run; than pay her for a disappointing session because she took advantage of me being nice! Working in the state prisons; I quickly learned if you start off an ass hole officer establishing your control- they dislike you but respect you. You can calm down later once control is sustained. Start nice and they shit on you, pass the word around, and its much harder to take back control. Please excuse if I sound fired up, but I feel his disappointments and know why he yarning for the non pro. She is more simple, pleasing, the environment controllable and he got her on his own. Recuerdo what its like being there and not speaking Spanish. It was like yesterday for me (February 2013). We were targets, got played, and over paid. I had to first change my character, surrounding, and dependence to take back control. Now 10 trips later when I go back to those same areas in the DR and see those same snakes, Estoy en control.

Frannie
12-09-13, 17:40
I absolutely concur!

My exposure to Sosua is limited but these days, all I read in that forum is how terrible the women are and how the boys should band together to defend against the clique of women out to get you. Yadi yada. Even when the veterans like yourself and Tomjackin continue to have fun there! (Too bad, there is no one to defend Santo Domingo these days.). So I wonder if the composition of visitors have changed so much to have caused the reaction. It is like Newton's third law whereby the reaction (of the women) is equivalent in magnitude but in opposite direction to the action (of men). If you are not one of such men, chances are other men set up the action and the reaction is being aimed at you, happenstance.

Common sense, not being drunk, not being loud, not being in a large group or showing off are all sensible advice that work in a market place that is not very well regulated even in the first world (let alone professional) so I presume there will always be some with bad karma who would wake up to be surprised. Elementary, as Holmes would proclaim!Personally I find that treating them nicely is overall much more likely to lead to outstanding sexual performance, and that if you get some bad actors, then you just cut them loose. I find the performance is better if you get to know the girl first, possibly over a number of trips or a period of time, before taking her to the bedroom.

However I speak Spanish well enough to have normal conversations and read their character and personality, and there is probably no clear cut solution that works for all levels of experience and language skills.

Combo
12-09-13, 20:33
IMO, the trick is learning to be nice but at the same time, firm. If you're too nice (overpaying, agreeing to whatever she wants) , many of these girls will take advantage of you (true of women in general, pro or non-pro). If you're an asshole, they'll be the same way back to you. There's a fine line between these two sides that most veteran mongers are able to achieve.

OldKool
12-09-13, 23:03
I like being straight up I think in the long run it pays very well because the girls will like you and your money. You do not need a lot of Spanish to show them a good time. If they are have fun you have to make them leave. This works with pros and non pros trust me. It is not easy being a pro. So when they can relax and enjoy good food and company they put out for you. I can see you are a good guy. You guys need slow down and chill. The pussy is not going anywhere and there is plenty of it.


What you say carries weight, but I am on the side of non or very little Spanish speaking mongers. You, Tom, Charles, Mr E and Olkool and true Vets. Ustedes hablan español and can handle situations like Matadors. Some of us are in the "lie to avoid problems faze". My mans has commons sense, however, he has been over priced, and two bad fucks for being to nice. Call it incorporations, adjustments, or flipping. A change of the character is needed. Its doesn't change the person; it all apart of us. I would rather a chica turn her nose up and run; than pay her for a disappointing session because she took advantage of me being nice! Working in the state prisons; I quickly learned if you start off an ass hole officer establishing your control- they dislike you but respect you. You can calm down later once control is sustained. Start nice and they shit on you, pass the word around, and its much harder to take back control. Please excuse if I sound fired up, but I feel his disappointments and know why he yarning for the non pro. She is more simple, pleasing, the environment controllable and he got her on his own. Recuerdo what its like being there and not speaking Spanish. It was like yesterday for me (February 2013). We were targets, got played, and over paid. I had to first change my character, surrounding, and dependence to take back control. Now 10 trips later when I go back to those same areas in the DR and see those same snakes, Estoy en control.

Tempoecorto
12-10-13, 07:36
IMO, the trick is learning to be nice but at the same time, firm. If you're too nice (overpaying, agreeing to whatever she wants) , many of these girls will take advantage of you (true of women in general, pro or non-pro). If you're an asshole, they'll be the same way back to you. There's a fine line between these two sides that most veteran mongers are able to achieve.I agree. Being nice does not imply keeling over every time someone else is making a request for something that is either not right, agreed upon or untenable. When I began going there, a Blackberry was a hot item. Nowadays everyone wants a Samsung galaxy only and so if you think just because someone you barely know asks you for a galaxy, you should give in, you are NUTS. On the other hand, to explain nicely why you may not entertain such an absurd thought, may require quite a bit of language skill that eludes many if not most. To me, language tides over half, if not most of the issues we read about in these forums. Certainly, there are always the hard-cores who have their own agenda, but if you are not chasing those and can, using language skills as Frannie was saying before, weed out the bad apples, you have mostly home runs. Personally, this is also the reason why I prefer the island women compared to say Thai / Malay / Indo women. Where it is impossible to get to know a regular woman because of language constraints. Of course, if you are only doing Patpong. It does not matter but even then it will compare more or less with Sosua experience. With some bad always thrown into the mix.

Of course, there are plenty of assholes out there among mongers as well as you stated rightly.

Grandnash84
12-10-13, 10:41
I know this has been brought up a few times so here is what I experienced using a iphone 5 verizon. Went to the orange store on the conde. Got a sim. 1007 minutes. 1007 messages. 700 mb good for one week, plus an extra 250 mb also avaible for one week only. The minutes and messages are good for one year and to recharge is minumin $250rd or more. All this forr $900rd. had no problems with the sim, just had to reset it after putting the sim in or it wont read. You can get it for more or less depending on how much minutes, messages, and internet you want. Great having internet everywhere I went.