Santo Domingo

[Tempoecorto]

To the other question, how to have fun in the barrio go in to a place where you see a lot of people drinking order a beer and just hang around and someone will say Hello, offer some of your beer and a goodwill gesture like that will go a long way for 150 pesos. Just be smart and have fun and you will meet cool people.Thanks Revere, this is rather helpful. That sounds like a sensible plan, especially during the daylight hours. I have no plans to go anywhere in unknown places at 2 in the morning.

[Tempoecorto]

Don't be deceived my friend, she doesn't cheat because she would be a fool to risk the financial reward that you give her for not cheating, not because she doesn't want to cheat.This is an interesting conversation. I do not want to be on any moral high horse speaking about norms for males and females but it does sound to me that the whole expectation of "loyalty" is essentially based on a financial / material transaction. As a result the man feels entitled to doing what he has always done. Impregnating other females with the expectation that the one at home (wife or a girl friend) must be loyal because he is paying for it. I can only speak from my personal experience and I have changed my personal belief: I do not expect exclusivity and am convinced that unless there is a deep emotional bond, which is most likely to happen when one is young (age makes one cynical) - it is chimerical to speak of "loyalty" - and money does not buy it, no matter where on earth. If the woman is loyal, you are probably doing something else right. In addition to her upkeep.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I have a few Dominican cupid chicas lined up for my trip, one of which lives in Herrera in Santo Dom, can anyone who's been verify how dangerous it is. Also would anyone state which places in Santo Dom to avoid either at night or just anytime of the day. I'm not trying to get mugged or worse while on holiday.

[Mr Gogo]

This is an interesting conversation. I do not want to be on any moral high horse speaking about norms for males and females but it does sound to me that the whole expectation of "loyalty" is essentially based on a financial / material transaction. As a result the man feels entitled to doing what he has always done. Impregnating other females with the expectation that the one at home (wife or a girl friend) must be loyal because he is paying for it. I can only speak from my personal experience and I have changed my personal belief: I do not expect exclusivity and am convinced that unless there is a deep emotional bond, which is most likely to happen when one is young (age makes one cynical) - it is chimerical to speak of "loyalty" - and money does not buy it, no matter where on earth. If the woman is loyal, you are probably doing something else right. In addition to her upkeep.Some men have more money than patience, so it's easier to pay for control IMO. Personally I expect a female to eventually do something stupid so I don't trust any of them. But I do respect them. I had a situation in my younger days that involved me, my ex, and her new boyfriend. It eventually got back to my mom who dropped by my house. She said " if you are ever stupid enough to go to jail over a girl, don't expect mom to come see your dumb ass". Once everything settled down I vowed to myself to never put a girl on a pedestal again. If a girl wants to leave me, I step aside and wish her luck.

It's funny because I don't date in the States, but a few Stateside girls have been stepping up lately. One in particular has really got my attention. The reason she has my attention is because she put everything good / bad on the table with our first conversation, no sneaky surprises for later. But I'm still not trusting any of them.

I guess it's with each guys attitude vs the situation. Some are soft and don't mind paying for false love. Some guys don't want to pay but feel they are smooth enough to manipulate the situation in their favor. Some guys pay but don't want love, just control. Me, I don't want any love or drama just give me some ass when I want it and I will pay you to leave.

[RonnyRon]

Some men have more money than patience, so it's easier to pay for control IMO. Personally I expect a female to eventually do something stupid so I don't trust any of them. But I do respect them. I had a situation in my younger days that involved me, my ex, and her new boyfriend. It eventually got back to my mom who dropped by my house. She said " if you are ever stupid enough to go to jail over a girl, don't expect mom to come see your dumb ass". Once everything settled down I vowed to myself to never put a girl on a pedestal again. If a girl wants to leave me, I step aside and wish her luck.

It's funny because I don't date in the States, but a few Stateside girls have been stepping up lately. One in particular has really got my attention. The reason she has my attention is because she put everything good / bad on the table with our first conversation, no sneaky surprises for later. But I'm still not trusting any of them.

I guess it's with each guys attitude vs the situation. Some are soft and don't mind paying for false love. Some guys don't want to pay but feel they are smooth enough to manipulate the situation in their favor. Some guys pay but don't want love, just control. Me, I don't want any love or drama just give me some ass when I want it and I will pay you to leave.I especially love what your mom said. I cannot think of better advise from a mother to her son.

RR.

[Knowledge]

In rush hour traffic Herrera is nearly an hour west of most of the places you read about on this forum. That's it's biggest disadvantage, it's really inconvenient to reach. Have the girl come to you. I don't know what you would do there except stare at her relatives. The main north / south thorough fare in Herrera is called Isabel Aguiar. There are a handful of popular discos along that street and they are notorious for frequent shootouts inside and outside, so avoid them. Have fun.


I have a few Dominican cupid chicas lined up for my trip, one of which lives in Herrera in Santo Dom, can anyone who's been verify how dangerous it is. Also would anyone state which places in Santo Dom to avoid either at night or just anytime of the day. I'm not trying to get mugged or worse while on holiday.

[Wrx2005]

I have noticed for whatever reason you like to jump at other people on the board. Not sure why, maybe you have an insecurity problem. I do not know and really do not care.I have a special bond with select individuals on this board that they helped to initiate a while back. I don't expect you to know why or understand the exchange, and if you don't care, so be it. I wouldn't give a damn one way or the other.


But, to you point about me being in the twilight zone I live in reality.I didn't say you were in the Twilight Zone. I said "This isn't the Twilight Zone is it?" That means, I am the one in the Twlight Zone dealing with an incoherent poster. You point blank ignored what I said, about nobody here was claiming All women cheat, and instead of acknowledging that, you keep going on and on with more examples of women that don't cheat. So me seeing you do that, that's why I made that comment. You got it straight now? I don't recall anybody else who responded to you the 1st time. I should have taken the hint. Now I see why. LOL.

[Puntz79]

I'm pondering returning to DR next week (not much of pondering, it's actually happening) but what I'm really pondering is driving from Santo Domingo to Santiago. My inbound flight is to SDQ and I'm leaving from STI as I plan on visiting Sosua for 2 days. I like the flexibility of having a car in DR, but having driven in Santiago before, I can say that driving is quite the challenge and one really needs to be careful. For the most part I've been fine, knock on wood.

With that said, I've never driven longer distances in DR and want to give it a try this time around. If anyone has any experience on this route and Autopista Duarte, I'd appreciate your opinions and experiences. I don't know if there are well-known major rental companies within the city of Santo Domingo as most seem to have locations at the airport, but if there is a rental agency that is recommended. I'd love to know. I usually stick to Avis and Hertz, and sometimes National when I travel anywhere international. But back to the drive, how challenging is it. Anyone encounter any issues? I'm looking to leave on a Saturday around noon to mid-afternoon so the driving would be done in daylight. If it was at night, I might have second thoughts.

[GrownMan1]

I'm pondering returning to DR next week (not much of pondering, it's actually happening) but what I'm really pondering is driving from Santo Domingo to Santiago. My inbound flight is to SDQ and I'm leaving from STI as I plan on visiting Sosua for 2 days. I like the flexibility of having a car in DR, but having driven in Santiago before, I can say that driving is quite the challenge and one really needs to be careful. For the most part I've been fine, knock on wood.

With that said, I've never driven longer distances in DR and want to give it a try this time around. If anyone has any experience on this route and Autopista Duarte, I'd appreciate your opinions and experiences. I don't know if there are well-known major rental companies within the city of Santo Domingo as most seem to have locations at the airport, but if there is a rental agency that is recommended. I'd love to know. I usually stick to Avis and Hertz, and sometimes National when I travel anywhere international. But back to the drive, how challenging is it. Anyone encounter any issues? I'm looking to leave on a Saturday around noon to mid-afternoon so the driving would be done in daylight. If it was at night, I might have second thoughts.We drove from SD to ST this Wednesday it was easy. Use your smart phone GPS if you have to. We only encounter stopping maybe at 2 or 3 traffic lights in the smaller cities. No strange turns only 1 toll bridge I think 30 peso leaving SD. We did the drive in 1 hour 30 minutes. I have drove from BC and SD to Sosua many times. The road from SD to ST in far more safer and larger. Relax even at night its a good ride.

[Tempoecorto]

With that said, I've never driven longer distances in DR and want to give it a try this time around.1. The large rental agencies should have city locations. And the rates lower compared to airport locations.

2. Getting out of SD (other than big city traffic) can be tricky as the directions are not clear always on the highway leading out of the city. I wound up in the wrong lane and had to find my way back, which per se is not a challenge but you waste time.

3. Heavy traffic at the usual morning and evening time. Mid day onward is good and daytime driving is always better as the roads are not well lit.

4. Once you are out of SD (as marked by the toll booth) by the other poster, it is smooth sailing. There should not be much traffic and the countryside, around Bonao is very beautiful.

5. You will find women standing on highways looking for business as well. There are cabanas along the highways or your car.

Enjoy the country and the ride!

[Alex Deuce]

Some men have more money than patience, so it's easier to pay for control IMO. Personally I expect a female to eventually do something stupid so I don't trust any of them. But I do respect them. I had a situation in my younger days that involved me, my ex, and her new boyfriend. It eventually got back to my mom who dropped by my house. She said " if you are ever stupid enough to go to jail over a girl, don't expect mom to come see your dumb ass". Once everything settled down I vowed to myself to never put a girl on a pedestal again. If a girl wants to leave me, I step aside and wish her luck.

It's funny because I don't date in the States, but a few Stateside girls have been stepping up lately. One in particular has really got my attention. The reason she has my attention is because she put everything good / bad on the table with our first conversation, no sneaky surprises for later. But I'm still not trusting any of them.

I guess it's with each guys attitude vs the situation. Some are soft and don't mind paying for false love. Some guys don't want to pay but feel they are smooth enough to manipulate the situation in their favor. Some guys pay but don't want love, just control. Me, I don't want any love or drama just give me some ass when I want it and I will pay you to leave.Good ish!

Really got to be able to break down walls and know whom your dealing with. Few ever get past that level because they Dick get in the way. When you can open the door and let them walk out its easy. You got to find the one that understands its not going to work as is and walks out the door her self.

[Alex Deuce]

If the woman is loyal, you are probably doing something else right. In addition to her upkeep.You may be doing everything on earth the right way as you and even she perceives and any woman will still cheat given the proper inducements. Sad to say but fear of financial loss and physical consequences are greater prohibitions above morality for a Dominicana.

[Tempoecorto]

You may be doing everything on earth the right way as you and even she perceives and any woman will still cheat given the proper inducements. Sad to say but fear of financial loss and physical consequences are greater prohibitions above morality for a Dominicana.I certainly cannot profess to know Dominican women better than others but my thoughts in that mail were generic, based on my life experiences across the globe, without any geographic limitation. To my mind, it is the man who bungles first (but it is written in our genes) but shall we just say, we all have different views based on our past?

[UcBrother79]

Which one are you using? Every time I download one it seems to be a virus.Try Golden Eye they have a 30 day free trial and I have been using it for at the past 3+ years. It takes screenshots etc. If I remember correctly I found on Cnet or Filehippo, PM if you have more questions.

[Knowledge]

Stick with the majors so you will get service in case of a break down out on the road.


1. The large rental agencies should have city locations. And the rates lower compared to airport locations.

2. Getting out of SD (other than big city traffic) can be tricky as the directions are not clear always on the highway leading out of the city. I wound up in the wrong lane and had to find my way back, which per se is not a challenge but you waste time.

3. Heavy traffic at the usual morning and evening time. Mid day onward is good and daytime driving is always better as the roads are not well lit.

4. Once you are out of SD (as marked by the toll booth) by the other poster, it is smooth sailing. There should not be much traffic and the countryside, around Bonao is very beautiful.

5. You will find women standing on highways looking for business as well. There are cabanas along the highways or your car.

Enjoy the country and the ride!

[Mr Enternational]

So me and my girl are getting dressed and getting ready to leave the house. I started putting on my jeans. She said no, put on your shorts. I said baby I don't have any shorts, only swimming trunks. She said put those on then and put on this sleeveless t-shirt. I said, but we are not going to the beach and I don't want to look ridiculous. She said you won't look ridiculous. It is hot here and you need to dress comfortable. I said but my friends say you need to wear pants and a nice shirt in the city. She said they don't know what the hell they are talking about. So I'm on the way to Zona Colonial with my beach clothes on by advisement of a local.

[Mr Gogo]

So me and my girl are getting dressed and getting ready to leave the house. I started putting on my jeans. She said no, put on your shorts. I said baby I don't have any shorts, only swimming trunks. She said put those on then and put on this sleeveless t-shirt. I said, but we are not going to the beach and I don't want to look ridiculous. She said you won't look ridiculous. It is hot here and you need to dress comfortable. I said but my friends say you need to wear pants and a nice shirt in the city. She said they don't know what the hell they are talking about. So I'm on the way to Zona Colonial with my beach clothes on by advisement of a local.Maybe, my brother, she wants to advertise that she is with a gringo.

[Mr Enternational]

My girl took me to the salon she goes to to get a manicure and pedicure. It is in Zona Colonial and the name is Jovy Jhon. We went in and inquired. The lady said that she doesn't work on men. I said why not, hands are hands and feet are feet. The girl repeated that she can't do men. I said but the place even has JHON in the name!

We left and came to a much nicer salon next to Villar Hermanos. The receptionist said the total will be 400 pesos. So I'm here waiting for my turn. My girl said that what it is is that the girl's husband is very jealous and does not allow her to work on men. I couldn't stop laughing. Money doesn't have a sex.

[Mfins]

Just a quick report. I was in SD with 2 of my friends again this weekend. Had a good time. Only time getting scammed by a taxi this trip was 5 am from the Casino to Hotel Roma 2 Friday night when I forgot to ask how much the price was before getting in the cab. What should have been a $3-5 cab ride ended up being $15.00. When he asked for the $15.00 I got out of the cab gave him $5 and walked away. He called the cops they came. They were not really taking sides but, told me straight up they could not do anything to me or make me pay. I ended up giving him $10 more anyway, just to shut him up from calling me a thief and I was exhausted and wanted to go to bed. I called my girl from Baby dolls and she came over stayed with me all night. She left at noon the next day or (so she said) and I was still asleep. About 1 pm I woke up and had a text from her calling me and Abusador. (means person who makes people work and doesn't pay for the work provided) I told her I was dead asleep and didn't even know she left. I asked why she didn't wake me up. She continued on. I just shut my phone off but, went to baby dolls later that night and gave her $75.00 she all of a sudden became very friendly again.

Still something about the culture or some of the people down there that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Anyway, Went to Teresa, Foxys and Baby Dolls with Baby dolls having the most talent by far this trip. There were a ton of girls both nights and most very attractive. My friends went to Slip on me Saturday afternoon and had a very good experience. They said it was by far the most erotic massage they have ever had with a happy ending at the end for no up charge. So $50 gets you the hr massage and a HJ.

Sunday Morning I went to the massage parlor at the airport again. Hoping to get a happy ending and a nice send off for my trip home there were 3 people working there. One was a guy and the other two were girls and total cold fishes. Not attractive at all. I guess it was a slow day. Overall a fun trip.

[Puntz79]

Reading the post below, has anyone received extra services at the airport massage place? The last time I went there, I tried to see if the girl would hint at providing any extra services but no go. However, I've read below that it's possible. Do you just ask them straight up? Last time I got stuck with one of the more. Meh, I wouldn't call her unattractive but the other girl that was there was better looking. A LOT better looking. I leave out of Santo Domingo again for my upcoming trip, I might give the airport massage another shot if this is really true.

[Mr Enternational]

Maybe, my brother, she wants to advertise that she is with a gringo.She said that when you see people dressed with the pants and shirt in the daytime they are out working. We just came from the movies and sure enough at the mall everybody and their dads had on shorts and t-shirts and flip flops.

Then we get back and she goes to take a shower. When my turn comes there is no freakin water. D damn R.

[Mr Gogo]

She said that when you see people dressed with the pants and shirt in the daytime they are out working. We just came from the movies and sure enough at the mall everybody and their dads had on shorts and t-shirts and flip flops.

Then we get back and she goes to take a shower. When my turn comes there is no freakin water. D damn R.Lmao, see your bad karma made the water stop running LOL.

[Bravo]

Just a quick report. I was in SD with 2 of my friends again this weekend. Had a good time. Only time getting scammed by a taxi this trip was 5 am from the Casino to Hotel Roma 2 Friday night when I forgot to ask how much the price was before getting in the cab. What should have been a $3-5 cab ride ended up being $15.00. When he asked for the $15.00 I got out of the cab gave him $5 and walked away. He called the cops they came. They were not really taking sides but, told me straight up they could not do anything to me or make me pay. I ended up giving him $10 more anyway, just to shut him up from calling me a thief and I was exhausted and wanted to go to bed. .You mentioned that you walked off after he tried to charge you 15 bucks. So when he said he would call the police, you turned around, went back to the taxi and waited until they showed up? Or the police went up to your hotel room and asked you to come downstairs? How long did it take for the police to arrive on a taxi dispute?

When you went to give him the extra 10 bucks, you should have snapped a picture and then said "Now I am going to post this on the internet so all the gringos will know that you are a thief and not to use you!

[Mr Enternational]

That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.

[OldKool]

You never know what the police will do. I would not want to put my money that the police will be honest.


That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.

[Strike2]

Took me a while to find this, so I thought I'd bump it up for your convenience. It is a monger map for Santo Domingo.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=18.480627,-69.965143&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&mid=1246199584&dg=feature

Thank you Boricua.

[Mfins]

You mentioned that you walked off after he tried to charge you 15 bucks. So when he said he would call the police, you turned around, went back to the taxi and waited until they showed up? Or the police went up to your hotel room and asked you to come downstairs? How long did it take for the police to arrive on a taxi dispute?

When you went to give him the extra 10 bucks, you should have snapped a picture and then said "Now I am going to post this on the internet so all the gringos will know that you are a thief and not to use you!Honestly and I think I speak for most of us its really not the $10 its the principle. I gave him $5. 00 after he demanded $15 he then called the police from his cel. They must have been right around the corner because they were there in less than 10 minutes. I waited inside the lobby of the Hotel. When the police arrived I went out outside. My intention in doing that was to argue my point and also let this guy know I wasnt going to be bullied into paying him more by his threat of calling the police. However, this was at 5 am and the more I waited and then went into a discussion with the police the more I lost my will to fight and just threw the $10 at him. I was tired and was ready to go upstairs and call my girl to come over.

[Mfins]

That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.Yes as I stated in another post my intention was to prove that I was not going to back down from his threat of calling the cops and am so sick of these guys trying to rip me off I was going to argue my point. However, I just got tired and threw the money at him and finally walked to my room after shaking the cops hands.

[Knowledge]

I really hate reading about this happening again and again. It's not hard to avoid. Before you get in the taxi, ask the fare, ask the fare, ask the fare. Ask when you call for a taxi by phone, then confirm with the driver before getting in. The drivers love it when a foreigner gets in without asking, they know they are about to get a big payday. Ask the fare. Think about it, does anyone get on an airplane first and check the ticket to see how much you paid later, of course not.


That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.

[Wrx2005]

You may be doing everything on earth the right way as you and even she perceives and any woman will still cheat given the proper inducements. Sad to say but fear of financial loss and physical consequences are greater prohibitions above morality for a Dominicana.Quite true, and even with that in mind or in place, enough novias will take the chance of losing those benefits because they could NOT let a juicy opportunity in the moment past them by. Their belief may be, he's out of sight, out of mind. "As long as my benefactor doesn't know, doesn't see it, can't verify it, or I can lie my ass off enough to convince him I had to do it, keep him off balance with smokescreens, I can convince him it didn't happen or I won't do it again. ". End result. She generally gets over without a hitch. Gets reinforced with the presumption that they are that good and may never get caught. And even if they did get busted, the novio aint gonna lose or walk away from that juice.
Guys in this forum and elsewhere bear witness to that fact simply by their reports and complaints of how their novias are a burden to them, but they cant cut them loose. That's an incentive for enough chicas/novias to cheat because the risk of losing some benefit may be low or non existent.

[Soberano]

Hey all,

I am a long time lurker, finally decided to add to the discussion. I was wondering if any of you in SD know about the Plaza Caribe near La Duarte? I have been there a few times to have a beer. It is like a typical dance club, but caters to men only. Would be a great place to go and learn some moves if you want to know more about Dominican dancing.

[GrownMan1]

I really hate reading about this happening again and again. It's not hard to avoid. Before you get in the taxi, ask the fare, ask the fare, ask the fare. Ask when you call for a taxi by phone, then confirm with the driver before getting in. The drivers love it when a foreigner gets in without asking, they know they are about to get a big payday. Ask the fare. Think about it, does anyone get on an airplane first and check the ticket to see how much you paid later, of course not.Well put! NO asking means. Charge me anything when I am done.

[Mr Enternational]

I was wondering if any of you in SD know about the Plaza Caribe near La Duarte? I have been there a few times to have a beer. It is like a typical dance club, but caters to men only. Would be a great place to go and learn some moves if you want to know more about Dominican dancing.You mean it's a gay club? No thanks. I would rather learn my moves around women.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I've read a lot of pages from this thread. And like most of us relatively new to the DR I am confused. I'll explain why:

I'm looking for a chica friendly hotel with prices that include all taxes etc, or a 1 bed / studio apartment with a safe and security guard if that combination exists at all there.

My budget is max $70 a night but would prefer to spend less, but as mentioned chica friendly, has a safe which is essential and someone there who will monitor who comes in and out of the hotel (only just so ladies give their cedula).

I have been to sosua before but not Santo Domingo so I would appreciate any help.

[Grandnash84]

I've read a lot of pages from this thread. And like most of us relatively new to the DR I am confused. I'll explain why:

I'm looking for a chica friendly hotel with prices that include all taxes etc, or a 1 bed / studio apartment with a safe and security guard if that combination exists at all there.

My budget is max $70 a night but would prefer to spend less, but as mentioned chica friendly, has a safe which is essential and someone there who will monitor who comes in and out of the hotel (only just so ladies give their cedula).

I have been to sosua before but not Santo Domingo so I would appreciate any help.In gazcue, apartemanta juagar or razor should be good since you don't visit sd much. In zona colonial try roma dos on the conde. Plenty of others but might be a few dollars over yur budget.

[BoricuaOnline]

I've read a lot of pages from this thread. And like most of us relatively new to the DR I am confused. I'll explain why:

I'm looking for a chica friendly hotel with prices that include all taxes etc, or a 1 bed / studio apartment with a safe and security guard if that combination exists at all there.

My budget is max $70 a night but would prefer to spend less, but as mentioned chica friendly, has a safe which is essential and someone there who will monitor who comes in and out of the hotel (only just so ladies give their cedula).

I have been to consist before but not Santo Domingo so I would appreciate any help.In Gazcue area (near malecon) there are a few: Jaguar, Riazor, San Francisco de Asis, Mystik, La Morada and others. Daily cost between $40 and $60, all guest friendly.

[ILikeBigButts3]

In Gazcue area (near malecon) there are a few: Jaguar, Riazor, San Francisco de Asis, Mystik, La Morada and others. Daily cost between $40 and $60, all guest friendly.Thanks Boricua and Grandnash.

I have a date lines up over the weekend but after that I'll be on the prowl. Where exactly is GBP and the SW action? Can I propose a fee to most girls I see at any club in the capital or is that a dangerous mistake?

I don't mind trying out brothels if they'll let the girl come to mine.

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" I realise I'll need to adapt slightly and be a bit more friendly. Is there anywhere like rumba or the'latins in the capital?

[GrownMan1]

Thanks Boricua and Grandnash.

I have a date lines up over the weekend but after that I'll be on the prowl. Where exactly is GBP and the SW action? Can I propose a fee to most girls I see at any club in the capital or is that a dangerous mistake?

I don't mind trying out brothels if they'll let the girl come to mine.

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" I realise I'll need to adapt slightly and be a bit more friendly. Is there anywhere like rumba or the'latins in the capital?Is easy to assume that everyone in Sosua nightclub are p4 p. That's not the case and Santo Domingo. Be careful not to offend a chica. There are a lot of average chica going out and just having chica fun. From my experience the streetwalkers travel by themselves. They don't necessarily hang in clubs. The average price in a brothel is now 4000 pesos st. Expect to see a lot of ass and tits jobs.

[Frannie]

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" Oh, you old romantic! That should work fine in Santo Domingo as she will either start negotiations with you or give you a knee in the balls. Probably the latter. I don't know of any large bars in Santo Domingo that are populated exclusively by freelance prostitutes. I have never seen one and no one has reported on one on this board that I know of. There are a number of brothels that give a superficial appearance of being a bar, but that is a very different matter, because in those places as soon as you walk in the door it is you and only you who is the center of attention of every single person in the place including the barman, the bouncer, the girls, and the manager.

If you are going to approach single women in bars you might try a little bit of light conversation before asking about hourly rates. "Hi you are beautiful, how much for an hour?" or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?

[Tempoecorto]

or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?Haha. I cracked up with that. Long live The Doors!

The way I see it reading here, for most of the clueless, the whole country is a big brothel and one of these days, they are going to ask the girlfriend of the President, the same inane question in a Santo Domingo club: " How much?" No wonder the authorities are clamping down.

[Camaro1257]

If you are going to approach single women in bars you might try a little bit of light conversation before asking about hourly rates. "Hi you are beautiful, how much for an hour?" or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?Frannie is correct in fact I have found that flattery and light conversation are effective regardless as to whether the chica is civilian or pro. Something like "porque hizo Dios hacer las mujeres tan hermosa?" "why did God make women so beautiful?" The comment will surely net a smile and then you can make light conversation and go from there. I see nothing wrong with beginning all encounters with respect.

[ILikeBigButts3]

GBP has stepped up the talent. I know you guys don't like GBP for the sleaze factor but that is something I like. I went back yesterday after finishing work a little early, my live in was on her way to school via guagua (1 1/2 hour ordeal each way). Anyway, I saw the same girl as last time Paola. I told her I remembered her, she was happy. We went to a back room and got down to business. A girl this hot is a great bargain at 1k. The last time I was with her I finished in her mouth, she almost gagged. I told her she did not take all my leche and she remember that I shot a great big load in her mouth. I told her I want her to finish in her mouth and I want her to drink it..I thought GBP was only for short time dates, do the women readily give out their numbers to clients and will happily meet them outside the casa? If so how much do they charge for a toda la noche? I was under the impressions they lived on site in GBP?

I have never been to GBP but heading to Santo Domingo this Friday so would appreciate the information.

[ILikeBigButts3]

Is easy to assume that everyone in Sosua nightclub are p4 p. That's not the case and Santo Domingo. Be careful not to offend a chica. There are a lot of average chica going out and just having chica fun. From my experience the streetwalkers travel by themselves. They don't necessarily hang in clubs. The average price in a brothel is now 4000 pesos st. Expect to see a lot of ass and tits jobs.Where are the freelancers at? I read somewhere near the Conde. Have never been to SDO so conde could be a borough or a street. Am I correct?


Oh, you old romantic! That should work fine in Santo Domingo as she will either start negotiations with you or give you a knee in the balls. Probably the latter. I don't know of any large bars in Santo Domingo that are populated exclusively by freelance prostitutes. I have never seen one and no one has reported on one on this board that I know of. There are a number of brothels that give a superficial appearance of being a bar, but that is a very different matter, because in those places as soon as you walk in the door it is you and only you who is the center of attention of every single person in the place including the barman, the bouncer, the girls, and the manager.

If you are going to approach single women in bars you might try a little bit of light conversation before asking about hourly rates. "Hi you are beautiful, how much for an hour?" or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?
Frannie is correct in fact I have found that flattery and light conversation are effective regardless as to whether the chica is civilian or pro. Something like "porque hizo Dios hacer las mujeres tan hermosa?" "why did God make women so beautiful?" The comment will surely net a smile and then you can make light conversation and go from there. I see nothing wrong with beginning all encounters with respect.I'm a shy young mine, so being direct and to the point was the way I felt most comfortable. I will try and be less serious when approaching women on this trip, anyhow in Sosua the chicas did the looking for us and saved us the trouble. I do fancy a challenge, would make it worthwhile. But I don't want to be spreading 4000 pesos for half hour or hour date unless the chica looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0y-U0vBHs (blue bikini 1:09 into the video).

Anyhow other than GBP, I have heard of Foxys and Terra something or other. What's my best bet in take out, as in bringing a girl over to mine without dealing with online dating sites. Do the casas or brothels allow this and how much would it be?

There seems to a lot of discussions GBP but not much else. Are strip clubs an option too?

[Frannie]

Haha. I cracked up with that. Long live The Doors!

The way I see it reading here, for most of the clueless, the whole country is a big brothel and one of these days, they are going to ask the girlfriend of the President, the same inane question in a Santo Domingo club: " How much?" No wonder the authorities are clamping down.Yes, if you are a Doors fan, then you can follow up with "The time to hesitate is through, Come on, baby, light my fire. ".

I guess the President already asked her what she would like, and she said "I'll have a Presidente".

[Frannie]

Where are the freelancers at? I read somewhere near the Conde. Have never been to SDO so conde could be a borough or a street. Am I correct?

El Conde is a pedestrian shopping street where you can find tourist goods and designer clothes and a number of cafes. It runs from Parque Colon to Parque Independencia. The street name honors the Count of Penalba, who defeated the English during the 17th century. Some people say you can find freelance hookers there, though I must say that I never have seen any.

[GrownMan1]

Frannie is correct in fact I have found that flattery and light conversation are effective regardless as to whether the chica is civilian or pro. Something like "porque hizo Dios hacer las mujeres tan hermosa?" "why did God make women so beautiful?" The comment will surely net a smile and then you can make light conversation and go from there. I see nothing wrong with beginning all encounters with respect.The Zona Colonial from 7 pm to 10 pm is good. Showdown did an excellent report on the place.

[Troubleman69]

Where are the freelancers at? I read somewhere near the Conde. Have never been to SDO so conde could be a borough or a street. Am I correct?I don't do streetwalkers, but I have seen them on Pasteur, and also heading West on the Malecon.


I'm a shy young mine, so being direct and to the point was the way I felt most comfortable. I will try and be less serious when approaching women on this trip, anyhow in Sosua the chicas did the looking for us and saved us the trouble. I do fancy a challenge, would make it worthwhile. But I don't want to be spreading 4000 pesos for half hour or hour date unless the chica looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0y-U0vBHs (blue bikini 1:09 into the video).Anyhow other than GBP, I have heard of Foxys and Terra something or other. What's my best bet in take out, as in bringing a girl over to mine without dealing with online dating sites. Do the casas or brothels allow this and how much would it be? There seems to a lot of discussions GBP but not much else. Are strip clubs an option too?I've never been to GBP, but from what I have read it has the best rates out of all of the major casas de citas. Normally, with the others it's 3500-4000 pesos for 2 hours if you leave with the girl. I've done that a few times, and the girls seem to be more or less hit or miss. I've only had 1 complete dud, and that was on my first trip, and she wasn't from a casa. You will find all types of girls in the Casas. My favorite is Theresa, but I've never been disappointed with the quality in any that I've visited except 305. I've only gone there twice, so maybe it was just bad timing. My friends swear by the place.

My question for you would be how is your spanish? If you can speak good spanish, then you can find women in different places (clubs, bars, car wash / pool halls, malls). If you don't speak spanish, it makes things a little more difficult, and you might want to check with the hotel to see if they have a driver available. Unless you just want to hang in the el conde / malecon area, you are going to need transportation in Santo Domingo. My first trip 2 1/2 years ago, I only spoke basic spanish, and I still had a ball in Santo Domingo, but I also had an english speaking driver who was taking me all over the place. Be careful with the english speaking drivers, because they will try to overcharge you which, is why I recommend asking the hotel for a driver that they trust. Better yet, be careful with any driver english or spanish, because the gringo tax is in effect. Always know the rate before getting in the taxi, and don't be afraid to walk away if they are asking for something stupid. Finally, be careful with that offering money to every female that you meet stuff. Santo Domingo is a big city, where many of the women will get offended if you label them a prostitute by offering money. If money is needed, you will know. Here is a link to Boricuas online map, which should give you an idea where things are located.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=18.480627,-69.965143&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&mid=1246199584&dg=feature

[BoricuaOnline]

Thanks Boricua and Grandnash.

I have a date lines up over the weekend but after that I'll be on the prowl. Where exactly is GBP and the SW action? Can I propose a fee to most girls I see at any club in the capital or is that a dangerous mistake?

I don't mind trying out brothels if they'll let the girl come to mine.

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" I realise I'll need to adapt slightly and be a bit more friendly. Is there anywhere like rumba or the'latins in the capital?A girl I see in most of my trips asked for a birthday gift last week using Whatsapp. I told her that she did not gave me a gift last January. She told me she had sex with me on my last visit on May and that was my birthday gift. The fact is I paid her for sex but I told her: take 2,000 for gasoline. During my last trip I called a girl I met a year ago, we had sex but I do not remember how much I paid that time so I asked her how much does she want and she got offended. "You gave me 1500 as a gift" was her answer. Always try to get on a $$$ agreement with the girl before but propose it as a gift, never as a payment for sexual services.

[Tempoecorto]

Here is a link to Boricuas online map, which should give you an idea where things are located.Friendly and constructive post with helpful pointers. Much better than my acerbic post. Appreciated.

[D Cups]

Friendly and constructive post with helpful pointers. Much better than my acerbic post. Appreciated.Hi T, how's it going? I really appreciate all your assistance. I am still planning my first trip to Santiago, Santo Domingo and PP in January 2015 and hope to catch up with you there for a few cervezas on me.

[Cagep1967]

A girl I see in most of my trips asked for a birthday gift last week using Whatsapp. I told her that she did not gave me a gift last January. She told me she had sex with me on my last visit on May and that was my birthday gift. The fact is I paid her for sex but I told her: take 2,000 for gasoline. During my last trip I called a girl I met a year ago, we had sex but I do not remember how much I paid that time so I asked her how much does she want and she got offended. "You gave me 1500 as a gift" was her answer. Always try to get on a $$$ agreement with the girl before but propose it as a gift, never as a payment for sexual services."Non pros" that take money for sex and say that having sex with me was my gift (for my birthday or father's day or some other day). I tell them wait, for your birthday I'll have sex with you as your gift. They get confused as they don't see the irony.

Once I was in Atlanta at an asian massage place and the girl asked for $140 upfront, she was very good and we had a good session. Afterwards, I wanted a second round and she obliged, she came several times on my second round as I was going for a long time. She said she came 4 times. I then asked her for $140 from her, I told her it was a bargain as she came twice as much as I did. She should have paid me $280. She laughed and took it as the joke it was meant.

I won't give a regular girl gifts or money constantly, I give like every other visit or date. If they ask for something everytime I make them feel bad and ask them how much does sex cost, I've also found out that regular girls don't like to be thanked for sex, that pisses them off. I'll give them the "gift" and say thank you. Then they don't usually ask so often.

[Ozzie1451]

El Conde is a pedestrian shopping street where you can find tourist goods and designer clothes and a number of cafes. It runs from Parque Colon to Parque Independencia. The street name honors the Count of Penalba, who defeated the English during the 17th century. Some people say you can find freelance hookers there, though I must say that I never have seen any.I have walked one night on el Conde and 3 ladies came to me to go to my hotel. One asked $50 but I was tired and flying home next morning and I passed. It was the only time I was there.

[Mr Enternational]

Yesterday me and my girl were talking about men giving women money. She said she hates a woman who asks a man for money saying they have needs. She said everyone has needs, so that is nothing special or different from the rest of the world who has to get off their asses and work.

[GrownMan1]

Yesterday me and my girl were talking about men giving women money. She said she hates a woman who asks a man for money saying they have needs. She said everyone has needs, so that is nothing special or different from the rest of the world who has to get off their asses and work.Does she have a sister!

[Alex Deuce]

I have walked one night on el Conde and 3 ladies came to me to go to my hotel. One asked $50 but I was tired and flying home next morning and I passed. It was the only time I was there.You can walk the anywhere in the city and a free lancer will find a Gringo walking the streets. Those saying they can't find anything in the city are not looking at all.

[Mr Enternational]

Does she have a sister!All 3 of those are married. She said she has a friend for you though.

[ILikeBigButts3]

Thanks everyone for comments and tips to my questions. It is much appreciated. If anyone is passing through Santo Domingo over the next couple weeks, let me know. Drinks on me.

[GrownMan1]

All 3 of those are married. She said she has a friend for you though.My Ninja! Seter up! Wait a minute what area we talking about LR, ST, PP, PC, LT or SDQ. You know you are everywhere!

[ILikeBigButts3]

What's the going rate for hotel riazor? I plan to stay there for a few days before browsing for another hotel.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I don't do streetwalkers, but I have seen them on Pasteur, and also heading West on the Malecon.

I've never been to GBP, but from what I have read it has the best rates out of all of the major casas de citas. Normally, with the others it's 3500-4000 pesos for 2 hours if you leave with the girl. I've done that a few times, and the girls seem to be more or less hit or miss. I've only had 1 complete dud, and that was on my first trip, and she wasn't from a casa. You will find all types of girls in the Casas. My favorite is Theresa, but I've never been disappointed with the quality in any that I've visited except 305. I've only gone there twice, so maybe it was just bad timing. My friends swear by the place.

My question for you would be how is your spanish? If you can speak good spanish, then you can find women in different places (clubs, bars, car wash / pool halls, malls). If you don't speak spanish, it makes things a little more difficult, and you might want to check with the hotel to see if they have a driver available. Unless you just want to hang in the el conde / malecon area, you are going to need transportation in Santo Domingo. My first trip 2 1/2 years ago, I only spoke basic spanish, and I still had a ball in Santo Domingo, but I also had an english speaking driver who was taking me all over the place. Be careful with the english speaking drivers, because they will try to overcharge you which, is why I recommend asking the hotel for a driver that they trust. Better yet, be careful with any driver english or spanish, because the gringo tax is in effect. Always know the rate before getting in the taxi, and don't be afraid to walk away if they are asking for something stupid. Finally, be careful with that offering money to every female that you meet stuff. Santo Domingo is a big city, where many of the women will get offended if you label them a prostitute by offering money. If money is needed, you will know. Here is a link to Boricuas online map, which should give you an idea where things are located.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=18.480627,-69.965143&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&mid=1246199584&dg=featureMy Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.

I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes? I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50. Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.

[Soberano]

My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.

I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes? I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50. Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.Yes. Car washes are often fronts for "take out" service. Many of the girls have to wait until the ends of their shifts to leave from what I am told. I have never partaken in the service personally.

As far as a taxi in SD, I can help with that. It will be about 1000 pesos from the airport to the Colonial Zone.

To get to Sosua or Santiago just hop on Caribe Tours. Its a bus which has reasonable prices. Once again, the taxi company will take you from the Colonial Zone to Caribe Tours bus station for 150 pesos. Never go with the guys who stand around saying "Taxi, taxi, taxi. " Always call a company. If you need help, send me a PM and I will clue you in.

Same goes for finding GBP, or anything else you want to do. I live here and I have been wanting some English speaking company for a good minute.

[Soberano]

You mean it's a gay club? No thanks. I would rather learn my moves around women.Come on, man. Caters to men only. I mean, I could see if I said "has an all male staff. " But don't clubs like GBP and all the others cater to men only? That means there targeted clientele are men.

[Troubleman69]

My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.Funny, because at first it was harder for me to converse with them in person than using the translator. It's better for me now, but at first I couldn't understand anything that they were saying. Every now and then I still run into problems, especially if it's an environment with loud music playing, or lots of people talking.


I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes?It's a car wash with a bar, music, pool tables, maybe a dance floor, and lots of chicas. Even the sports bar formerly known as La Base (can't remember the new name) has a car wash on the side of it.


I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50.Search the forum for a number to Apollo taxi. They have been recommended here in the past. I normally get a card from taxistas who aren't trying to overcharge me, and they appreciate the repeat business.


Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.It's the reason why many guys prefer the freelance option over the casas. As Alex mentioned, it's not hard to find them. I remember now that I have been approached on El Conde. It's just not my thing. The hardest part for many guys is the transportation aspect. Women will not be that hard to find. It's just up to you on what type you want.

[BoricuaOnline]

She said she is in position to receive me in a few days.

[Grandnash84]

My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.

I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes? I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50. Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.Never stayed at razior but I heard its a good deal. Nice clean hotel, but everyone says the beds are too hard. I believe it comes with free breakfeast at monolos, the resturant next door. Monolos is a very expensive resturant if your just eating there. A block up the street is a dominican resturant / bakery that is very good. It is always packed and a very clean place. As far as the car washes, I've only been to one, puro car wash. Been there twice. Was quoted 5000 pesos for short term lmaooooo. More expensive than the casas and the women at the wash don't even look as good as the chicas in the casas. And the drinks are expensive at the car wash, I guess that's how they stay afloat. puro is a straight up car wash with a bar next to it thats on the same property. if you scroll this forum to around nov or dec of last year someone listed all the casas and car washes with their addresses. If your spanish is very limited maybe the car washes arent for you. Need good spanish, you can use your translator on your phone but after a while it gets old. I woulndt hire a car to go to sosua or santiago, I would take metro or caribe tours. Seems like the only thing that runs efficent in the dr is the bus system. 350 pesos will get you to sosua from sd. Take about 4-5 hours depending on traffic. Same time as taking a car. If you hire a dirver its $200 minium to get to sosua from sd. But if your from the uk you get a good exchage rate so everything will be a lot cheaper for you LOL.

[Grandnash84]

She said she is in position to receive me in a few days.Is she at the jaguar apartments? LOL.

[GrownMan1]

Take about 4-5 hours depending on traffic. Same time as taking a car. If you hire a dirver its $200 minium to get to sosua from sd. But if your from the uk you get a good exchage rate so everything will be a lot cheaper for you LOL.Dude who was riding in the car with you Miss Daisy. It takes 3 to 3 1/2 in a car. I'll only traveled Juan Pablo II from SD and BC to Sosua. I think this time I will try the SD, ST, and Sosua- Duarte route. It it took us 2 hours to drive from ST to SD. It took 1 hour 15 to drive from ST to Sosua. Mr E said the new road took him 45 minutes to and 1 hour I think. I am thinking its going to take about the same 3 1/2 total. The Duarte route from SD to ST is more open, less cities, all hwy, no major turn and allot cheaper. Only 1 toll.

[ILikeBigButts3]

Never stayed at razior but I heard its a good deal. Nice clean hotel, but everyone says the beds are too hard. I believe it comes with free breakfeast at monolos, the resturant next door. Monolos is a very expensive resturant if your just eating there. A block up the street is a dominican resturant / bakery that is very good. It is always packed and a very clean place. As far as the car washes, I've only been to one, puro car wash. Been there twice. Was quoted 5000 pesos for short term lmaooooo. More expensive than the casas and the women at the wash don't even look as good as the chicas in the casas. And the drinks are expensive at the car wash, I guess that's how they stay afloat. puro is a straight up car wash with a bar next to it thats on the same property. if you scroll this forum to around nov or dec of last year someone listed all the casas and car washes with their addresses. If your spanish is very limited maybe the car washes arent for you. Need good spanish, you can use your translator on your phone but after a while it gets old. I woulndt hire a car to go to sosua or santiago, I would take metro or caribe tours. Seems like the only thing that runs efficent in the dr is the bus system. 350 pesos will get you to sosua from sd. Take about 4-5 hours depending on traffic. Same time as taking a car. If you hire a dirver its $200 minium to get to sosua from sd. But if your from the uk you get a good exchage rate so everything will be a lot cheaper for you LOL.Well I'm having a chica come from Bani on Friday night, so there won't be much sleep for me (I hope) after having slept on a 10 hour flight to DR. Plus I hope to catch a 4 pm bus from punta cana to santo dom. This is a list of stops from espressobavaro.com the bus company, can you tell me which is closest to the hotel riazor please: (I really don't want to spend a night in Punta Cana as it sounds awful).

Calle Consuelo (San Pedro de Macorís) en la autovia.

Shell de Boca Chica (junto al BHD).

Parada de Andrés Boca Chica (terminal de autobuses).

Aeropuerto (próximo al supermercado Olé) parada de taxis.

Autovia de Samaná.

Av. San Vicente de Paul.

Sabana Larga.

José Fabrea con 27 Feb.

México con José Martí.

Puente Juan Carlos.

Máximo Gómez (parada final).

Do you know if I can by a sim card at punta cana? As that would be helpful. I've already read Camaro's post on Santo Dom, was helpfull. Hopefully I can just name the places he's listed and taxis will know what I'm on about. One thing that confuses me a little (from his post) - He says that all bars have numbered tables with a waitress assigned to a few and if you pay a salida fee you can take them round your house for a couple hours or so. My guess is he was referring to car washes and not regular bars, as I'm starting to think there are none there now.

Troubleman69 thanks for the apollo taxi tip, and explaining what a car wash is, I felt rather silly asking. I learned some spanish at school, didn't practice any for a few years and I love me some latinas so I'm a very motivated student these days. Listening to demboy and dominican rap helps with the chicas. I seem to have a knack for languages as I also speak French and Arabic, and portuguese is next on the list. Unless the talent in SD is worthy of the extra pesos, or the nightlife I'll head to Sosua pronto.

I miss the days where £1 = $2, had a lot cheap holidays back then, it's £1= $1. 71 . We'll get there, fingers crossed LOL. And folks, once I'm there I'll be posting pics of chicas and a few reports.

[Mr Enternational]

Come on, man. Caters to men only. I mean, I could see if I said "has an all male staff. " But don't clubs like GBP and all the others cater to men only? That means there targeted clientele are men.My bad homey. I didn't know you meant practice dancing with chicks inside of a fuckhouse. The only dance I will be doing there is the horizontal shuffle.

[Camaro1257]

I've already read Camaro's post on Santo Dom, was helpfull. Hopefully I can just name the places he's listed and taxis will know what I'm on about. One thing that confuses me a little (from his post) - He says that all bars have numbered tables with a waitress assigned to a few and if you pay a salida fee you can take them round your house for a couple hours or so. My guess is he was referring to car washes and not regular bars, as I'm starting to think there are none there now.
.I made a separate section in my Santo Domingo report for PFP bars and a couple of those venues had tables with numbers and the waitresses and staff were available for take out with salida.

[Mr Enternational]

Plus I hope to catch a 4 pm bus from punta cana to santo dom. This is a list of stops from espressobavaro.com the bus company, can you tell me which is closest to the hotel riazor please:Shit. None of them. But if you twisted my arm I would have to say Puente Juan Carlos or Maximo Gomez. After looking at the website, if the Maximo Gomez stop is anywhere close to their office (which is listed as where you board the bus to go to Punta Cana) then that is definitely where you want to get off. From there it is very close. Not walking close, but 3 minutes taxi close. Says 600 meters on the map https://maps.google.com.do/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Hotel+Riazor,+Santo+Domingo&daddr=expreso+b%C3%A1varo&hl=es&geocode=&aq=0&oq=hotel+ri&vps=1&sll=18.46579,-69.905126&sspn=0.011153,0.021136&vpsrc=6&mra=ls&ie=UTF8


Do you know if I can by a sim card at punta cana?There is not a place inside of the airport. (Punta Cana Airport is really just a big hut. That is the only part you will see when you arrive. If you fly out of there you will be in a more modern part that was recently completed.) But when you leave the airport about 1 minute down the road you will see a plaza on the left called Punta Cana Village. Claro (cell phone company) is inside of that plaza. There is a Wendy's in the same plaza.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I made a separate section in my Santo Domingo report for PFP bars and a couple of those venues had tables with numbers and the waitresses and staff were available for take out with salida.I'll have a third read through your post and see if that helps.


Shit. None of them. But if you twisted my arm I would have to say Puente Juan Carlos or Maximo Gomez. After looking at the website, if the Maximo Gomez stop is anywhere close to their office (which is listed as where you board the bus to go to Punta Cana) then that is definitely where you want to get off. From there it is very close. Not walking close, but 3 minutes taxi close. Says 600 meters on the map https://maps.google.com.do/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Hotel+Riazor,+Santo+Domingo&daddr=expreso+b%C3%A1varo&hl=es&geocode=&aq=0&oq=hotel+ri&vps=1&sll=18.46579,-69.905126&sspn=0.011153,0.021136&vpsrc=6&mra=ls&ie=UTF8

Thanks for looking into it, would have been helpful had I made it in time for the bus.

There is not a place inside of the airport. (Punta Cana Airport is really just a big hut. That is the only part you will see when you arrive. If you fly out of there you will be in a more modern part that was recently completed.) But when you leave the airport about 1 minute down the road you will see a plaza on the left called Punta Cana Village. Claro (cell phone company) is inside of that plaza. There is a Wendy's in the same plaza.Arrived today and the huts were nice, can definitely tell its all about gringo tourism at this airport.

[ILikeBigButts3]

flight- thomsom flight 50, the 787 dreamliner was nice, especially if you're into planes and stuff which i am. flight was due to leave at 10:30 instead left at 12 pm.

bus connection- was due to catch a bus to santo domingo from punta cana, but i missed it, and so followed some more unfortunate incidents.

taxi driver, i finally went through the last area (exit b) of the airport past the hire car stands. was approached by a guy with a taxi sign he was holding and replied yes to wanting a cab. i explained where i wanted to go and since we had 5 minutes to get there i didn't discuss money. he insisted we couldn't make it and we should go to higuey which he claimed was the next stop for the bavaro espress bus. we agree on $30, when we arrive i realise he's only taken me to bavaro which is the first stop where i wanted to go anyway and i'd catch a bus from there to higuey instead to catch another there to santo dom. i was pissed and shouted at him in front of everyone outside the bus terminal. i said i wasn't paying him $20 ofcourse we argued and he walked away, and i though well that's easy. he comes running back as i hop on the bus i chuck $20 at him and he leaves in a huff saying now you're going to pay me $30. the bus leaves slowly and unbeknownst to me is a police station literally hidden away to the side of this terminal, i peek and see the guy shouting at the cops to come grab me. policeman enters grabs me by the arm and leads me towards the police station after my bags were taken off the bus.

we then spent maybe an hour and a half at the station separately for the most part, with it ending with us both giving our accounts to a woman dressed normally (no uniform). she spoke decent english and after i explained it to her well, she called out the taxi man and said to him that he lied and i technically should decide what i want to pay him as he didn't take me where i wanted to go. i then said i'll have 10 bucks back from you then cause he wasted a lot of my time. i have maybe 40 bucks left in cash at this point to get to santo domingo, i do some quick math and give the lady 20 bucks cash in front of the guy and said "mira. espero que te gusta eso".

after all that nonsense i caught the two buses first was 120 pesos, the second 275 and the caught a cab to the hostial ziazor which is where i am now. the chica i was meant to meet said she wasn't coming as it was raining heavily (is this a dominican thing i don't know about, avoid travel when it rains? she says she'll come manana temprano (will post pics of her assets asap).

lastly since i got here around 10 or so, nowhere would exchange british pounds to pesos, not this hotel or the juagar casino which means i'm stuck in my room tonight.

[Grandnash84]

flight- thomsom flight 50, the 787 dreamliner was nice, especially if you're into planes and stuff which i am. flight was due to leave at 10:30 instead left at 12 pm.

bus connection- was due to catch a bus to santo domingo from punta cana, but i missed it, and so followed some more unfortunate incidents.

taxi driver, i finally went through the last area (exit b) of the airport past the hire car stands. was approached by a guy with a taxi sign he was holding and replied yes to wanting a cab. i explained where i wanted to go and since we had 5 minutes to get there i didn't discuss money. he insisted we couldn't make it and we should go to higuey which he claimed was the next stop for the bavaro espress bus. we agree on $30, when we arrive i realise he's only taken me to bavaro which is the first stop where i wanted to go anyway and i'd catch a bus from there to higuey instead to catch another there to santo dom. i was pissed and shouted at him in front of everyone outside the bus terminal. i said i wasn't paying him $20 ofcourse we argued and he walked away, and i though well that's easy. he comes running back as i hop on the bus i chuck $20 at him and he leaves in a huff saying now you're going to pay me $30. the bus leaves slowly and unbeknownst to me is a police station literally hidden away to the side of this terminal, i peek and see the guy shouting at the cops to come grab me. policeman enters grabs me by the arm and leads me towards the police station after my bags were taken off the bus.

we then spent maybe an hour and a half at the station separately for the most part, with it ending with us both giving our accounts to a woman dressed normally (no uniform). she spoke decent english and after i explained it to her well, she called out the taxi man and said to him that he lied and i technically should decide what i want to pay him as he didn't take me where i wanted to go. i then said i'll have 10 bucks back from you then cause he wasted a lot of my time. i have maybe 40 bucks left in cash at this point to get to santo domingo, i do some quick math and give the lady 20 bucks cash in front of the guy and said "mira. espero que te gusta eso".

after all that nonsense i caught the two buses first was 120 pesos, the second 275 and the caught a cab to the hostial ziazor which is where i am now. the chica i was meant to meet said she wasn't coming as it was raining heavily (is this a dominican thing i don't know about, avoid travel when it rains? she says she'll come manana temprano (will post pics of her assets asap).

lastly since i got here around 10 or so, nowhere would exchange british pounds to pesos, not this hotel or the juagar casino which means i'm stuck in my room tonight.as soon as you stepped off the plane you were already in police custody lol. not a good way to start your trip. you do not want to deal with the police at all. try to avoid situtations like this cause it will ruin your trip. sometimes it is best to let the extra $10-$20 go so you don't end up in a situtation where the police or worse can get involved. other than that have a good time!

[Mr Enternational]

he insisted we couldn't make it and we should go to higuey which he claimed was the next stop for the bavaro espress bus. we agree on $30, when we arrive i realise he's only taken me to bavaro which is the first stop where i wanted to go anyway and i'd catch a bus from there to higuey instead to catch another there to santo dom. i was pissed and shouted at him in front of everyone outside the bus terminal. i said i wasn't paying him $20 ofcourse we argued and he walked away, and i though well that's easy. he comes running back as i hop on the bus i chuck $20 at him and he leaves in a huff saying now you're going to pay me $30. the bus leaves slowly and unbeknownst to me is a police station literally hidden away to the side of this terminal, i peek and see the guy shouting at the cops to come grab me. policeman enters grabs me by the arm and leads me towards the police station after my bags were taken off the bus.

we then spent maybe an hour and a half at the station separately for the most part, with it ending with us both giving our accounts to a woman dressed normally (no uniform). she spoke decent english and after i explained it to her well, she called out the taxi man and said to him that he lied and i technically should decide what i want to pay him as he didn't take me where i wanted to go. i then said i'll have 10 bucks back from you then cause he wasted a lot of my time. i have maybe 40 bucks left in cash at this point to get to santo domingo, i do some quick math and give the lady 20 bucks cash in front of the guy and said "mira. espero que te gusta eso".so if his plane would have dropped him off half way to dr for the same price would that have been okay too? i for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. as he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. and one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.

[ILikeBigButts3]

So if his plane would have dropped him off half way to DR for the same price would that have been okay too? I for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. As he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. Of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. And one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.In fairness I did speak to a number of officers prior to that lady, whom initially all sided with the taxi driver which made me frustrated. I waited patiently, until I finally gestured and said arrest me or I'm going which prompted them to take me to the lady's office. Anyway it's all good really, here are some pics of the chica from bani:

[Mfins]

So if his plane would have dropped him off half way to DR for the same price would that have been okay too? I for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. As he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. Of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. And one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.Just another bunch of crap scams from the taxis down there. I have been very vocal on these boards about the taxis down there and there BS. As the last poster said it really can ruin a trip. I have tried it both ways, Arguing my point to the extent where the police come and I have also just given in and paid the scam price. There is no right answer. If you fight it out you waste time and energy. If you just pay it you are showing these rip off artists that they are right and they will continue to pull there scams on the next victim. Although not always feasable it is best to call a cab in advance use a service get the car number and color and price before getting in. However in this situation the guys plane was late he was trying to make a bus and had 5 minutes so calling and waiting is not always possible and this piece of shit taxi driver realized that and tried to take advantage of a tourist who doesn't really speak the language, was a first time visitor in a foreign land and was in a situation where he was desperate to get to where he had to get to.

[BoricuaOnline]

In fairness I did speak to a number of officers prior to that lady, whom initially all sided with the taxi driver which made me frustrated. I waited patiently, until I finally gestured and said arrest me or I'm going which prompted them to take me to the lady's office. Anyway it's all good really, here are some pics of the chica from bani:Nice pics, have fun. Is Riazor good? I haven't been there for about 3 years. I plan to thay there next Saturday.

[Knowledge]

Here we go again, it's almost a kind of stubbornness. Just in case it might help, I will repeat. Please agree on a fare and a destination in advance (in advance means before getting into the taxi and most important, before the driver begins moving the car). If you are not comfortable with your Spanish, have someone write your destination on a piece of paper and ask the driver to write down the fare on that piece of paper. That will go a long way toward preventing mischief and if you are unlucky enough to get involved with the police, that piece of paper can be helpful. Have fun!


So if his plane would have dropped him off half way to DR for the same price would that have been okay too? I for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. As he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. Of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. And one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.

[ILikeBigButts3]

Here we go again, it's almost a kind of stubbornness. Just in case it might help, I will repeat. Please agree on a fare and a destination in advance (in advance means before getting into the taxi and most important, before the driver begins moving the car). If you are not comfortable with your Spanish, have someone write your destination on a piece of paper and ask the driver to write down the fare on that piece of paper. That will go a long way toward preventing mischief and if you are unlucky enough to get involved with the police, that piece of paper can be helpful. Have fun!At the end of the day you might agree on a price and destination prior to entering the cab, but they have tons of tricks up their sleeves, like earlier tonight a taxi driver needed to call a chica as was travelling to her house and he was lost in the barrio of guaricano north of SD, he was still lost and needed a motoconcho to physically show him the way, he wanted an extra 150 pesos for the phone top up and motoconcho. Not my problem mate but if had he called the police it'd be me against him and about 30 other young men with nothing to do but get involved. To conclude there are good eggs and bad ones, agreeing on something verbally here is about as effective as insect repellent (or at least the one I have).

[ILikeBigButts3]

Nice pics, have fun. Is Riazor good? I haven't been there for about 3 years. I plan to thay there next Saturday.Riazor has pretty good internet, mattresses are hard and beds are weak. Might try the one round the corner (hostal something asis) I think it is, will ask tomorrow if they have safes first though. I was told price was $60, has gone up to $65 with breakfast included or $60 without and paying in pesos seems cheaper than in $.

[GrownMan1]

Riazor has pretty good internet, mattresses are hard and beds are weak. Might try the one round the corner (hostal something asis) I think it is, will ask tomorrow if they have safes first though. I was told price was $60, has gone up to $65 with breakfast included or $60 without and paying in pesos seems cheaper than in $.ILBB holla at me when you get free time.

[Chief Justice]

Nice pics, have fun. Is Riazor good? I haven't been there for about 3 years. I plan to thay there next Saturday.Raizor is a good hotel but the beds are hard and they don't allow 2 chicas in the room at a time. Napalotino seems to be ok too. But whatever you do, do not go to Roma 2. There were too many fags there when I stayed there.

[ILikeBigButts3]

ILBB holla at me when you get free time.A long shot but I'm headed to baladi restaurant in maybe a half hour or so:

Baladi Restaurant.

Calle Virginia de Pena #5, Ensanche Naco, Santo Domingo 10124 , Dominican Republic.

I'll be on my own, come say Hi. Need to unlock my cell or would pm you my claro number.

[Knowledge]

That's a very good authentic Lebanese restaurant. It's not so easy to find the first time but it's worth it.


A long shot but I'm headed to baladi restaurant in maybe a half hour or so:

Baladi Restaurant.

Calle Virginia de Pena #5, Ensanche Naco, Santo Domingo 10124 , Dominican Republic.

I'll be on my own, come say Hi. Need to unlock my cell or would pm you my claro number.

[BoricuaOnline]

Riazor has pretty good internet, mattresses are hard and beds are weak. Might try the one round the corner (hostal something asis) I think it is, will ask tomorrow if they have safes first though. I was told price was $60, has gone up to $65 with breakfast included or $60 without and paying in pesos seems cheaper than in $.Hostal San Francisco de Asis has electronic safes, rooms are from $40 and are smaller than Riazor.

[Grandnash84]

Raizor is a good hotel but the beds are hard and they don't allow 2 chicas in the room at a time. Napalotino seems to be ok too. But whatever you do, do not go to Roma 2. There were too many fags there when I stayed there.Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.

[Chief Justice]

Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.Some fairy from San Francisco recommended this place. Hes a regular.

[BoricuaOnline]

Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.I did not know until know, the place has been recommended several times on this forum I was even considering it. Fiesta fiesta pluma pluma gay! LOL.

[ILikeBigButts3]

Hostal San Francisco de Asis has electronic safes, rooms are from $40 and are smaller than Riazor.Went there yesterday to ask and was told no free rooms till the 20th, yet I just booked a room for today on booking.com so moving today. Baladi was closed when I finally found it, and it was definitely hard to find. Ended up at a restaurant called vizoni or something like that, very cheap, good and most importantly clean. Met another DC chica last night, met her at agora mall and she had a one piece outfit type thing on, wish I'd taken pics.

[Mr Enternational]

Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.I like Roma. And whenever I am there I never see anyone else. Once I saw a guy-girl couple. I'm too busy doing my own thing to worry about what other adults are doing behind closed doors.

[Chief Justice]

I like Roma. And whenever I am there I never see anyone else. Once I saw a guy-girl couple. I'm too busy doing my own thing to worry about what other adults are doing behind closed doors.I don't know if it was a 'gay connection' thing going on, but when I was there I saw at least 10 gays. When I first checked in I spotted about 8 African Americans but non of them had chicas. Then later a taxi driver told me they had broken wrist.

[Grandnash84]

Some fairy from San Francisco recommended this place. Hes a regular.Lmaoo. You got set up.

[Mfins]

Here we go again, it's almost a kind of stubbornness. Just in case it might help, I will repeat. Please agree on a fare and a destination in advance (in advance means before getting into the taxi and most important, before the driver begins moving the car). If you are not comfortable with your Spanish, have someone write your destination on a piece of paper and ask the driver to write down the fare on that piece of paper. That will go a long way toward preventing mischief and if you are unlucky enough to get involved with the police, that piece of paper can be helpful. Have fun!Again, Good advice but not always feasible. The guy did ask the price and nailed down the destination before getting in. The cabbie scammed him by taking him to the wrong place and demanding more money at the destination. How can this be avoided? Also, your idea of writing it down is nice but, who including the cab driver is going to sit in the middle of the road or in line at the airport for 5-10 minutes and work out a written contract before a simple cab ride. Your advice is good but, not that easy.

[Osiris69]

so i happened to get a few days off from work and decided to book a last minute ticket to the dr. going to be in santo domingo for a couple of days starting today and i'll probably stick around santo domingo for a couple of days.

i've lived in colombia and been through a fair amount of latin america. i've been to sosua and the northern coast a couple of times too, but this will be my first time in sd. my spanish isn't great but more then enough to get by.

just looking to see if anyone would like to meet up or anything. could be p4 p for just normal stuff.

i plan on going through this thread for some information about hotels and such, but if anyone has any quick recommendations where to stay, i'd be very grateful. i've stayed in some real shit holes in my travels. i don't mind staying hotels that aren't high end.

i'll be happy to buy the first round. just looking for some good times and some cool peeps.

my plane leaves in 5 hours!

[Mr Enternational]

Finally someone who understands the Dominican Republic the way I do, instead of going around paying every woman he meets. There are so many regular chicks fucking that who has time for hookers (or semi-prostitutes as some like to label their P4P girls.) I remember my first time going on Latin American Cupid thinking if I knew Spanish I would be hell. Well I learned Spanish and have been hell ever since. ILBB, I would swear I was reading my own reports from seeing your methodology. Same two sentences on Cupid, refusing to be ripped off, and not giving a woman money if she is not a hooker.


I believe it's worth it if you're seeking GFE and especially so in santo Domingo and probably Santiago. I've been in DR now for 5 days and only paid for a chica once, the others were all from Dominican Cupid. Pay the 1000 pesos to be a platinum member fill the details in but don't say you're just visiting on holiday, say that you work there or are about to. Don't mention money to the chica at all, only when discussing her transport to meet you perhaps. I have posted pictures, and I'd encourage you to do the same and obviously use ones that highlight your best features. Simple stuff really.

I avoid using Facebook, but if it works for you then so be it. You have pictures and details of yourself already on there. On Dominican Cupid my template for sending messages was " Holla como estas? Dame su numero para agregarte por whatsapp" And 9 times out of ten I'd get their number straight away. Use itranslate on your iPhone to help you out if your Spanish isn't great like mine.

More details on the chica? Her name's Branny, 21 has probably the best tits of any chic I've seen in real life, slept with her yesterday once, twice today and all I have her was 400 pesos for transport. 1st set of pics are of the pics I posted before though these two don't do her tits justice.

2nd set are of Yara 24 rich Dominican chica, drives me around in her bmw after we shag, I offer to pay for stuff and she says no.

3rd are of Linda from Santiago, just turned 19, doesn't work just works out at the gym everyday, cost was 500 pesos after I offered to pay for transport.

Have fun on Dominican cupid.

[Manizales911]

I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?

[Mr Gogo]

I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?I do this trip three times a year for reasons you expressed. Yes, you can get a sim at the airport but if you know Dominicans, they will take their time about it.

The metro bus drops you at the gas station on the highway and it's a two minute walk to Sosua. You will miss the last metro bus at 4:30 pm. Carib tours leaves every hour on the hour for Sosua, plan on spending five hours on the bus and bring a jacket. Both busses cost 380 p. Carib tours let you out at Charmicos and it's 200 p to Sosua via taxi.

Yes, you will have to pay 30 USD to go from SDQ to the bus stations and the traffic is killer.

I would suggest you get a hotel in Boca or SD and leave fresh on the metro bus at 7 am. If you have someone who is not up for the rapid pace and not used to traveling cross county on a five hour bus, it can break them down. My advice would be to start fresh in the morning.

I've also noticed the 7 am bus is the easiest ride. The later bus you have kids coughing and everybody talking. I have a germ phobia sorry.

[OldKool]

The airport has two Banks that give good rates of exchange and yes all the phone stores have branches in the airport. You can spend a night in SD or catch the evening bus. If you have a SD chica chill with her and get a early bus to Sosua. 30 bucks split between two people is not bad for taxi to SD. You are going to need a cab whe you get to Sosua. The bus stops about a mile from the strip. SD can be a blast if you have a lady to hang with and if it is a weekend. Weekdays are much less active in SD.


I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?

[Knowledge]

I was not referring to a contract when I mentioned writing down the destination, only the destination (I. E. "Guaricanos de Villa Mella" I agree if the passenger has no better idea of where he is going than the taxi driver, then it will likely end up as a problem for the passenger. GPS can eliminate that problem. There is mucho information on here about GPS in the DR and how it works etc. If that is too complicated there is google maps. I won't insist. Anyone who believes the problem is unavoidable will not avoid it. Good luck and have fun.


Again, Good advice but not always feasible. The guy did ask the price and nailed down the destination before getting in. The cabbie scammed him by taking him to the wrong place and demanding more money at the destination. How can this be avoided? Also, your idea of writing it down is nice but, who including the cab driver is going to sit in the middle of the road or in line at the airport for 5-10 minutes and work out a written contract before a simple cab ride. Your advice is good but, not that easy.

[Tempoecorto]

I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five yearsPiggybacking on Manizales', I have a further question. I have never been to SDQ airport. I would like to know (if anyone knows that is), how far is the Santo Domingo airport guagua stop from the terminal / s. I see on the map that the stop is (buses come from Boca chica or Higuey) where the highway is and from there it looks like a fairly long distance to the terminal. Question is: Is it possible to walk to the guagua stop. I have walked from the terminal to the main thoroughfare at POP the first time but it was a fairly short walk. Along with Frannie. I do not carry much luggage so I would like to try it at SDQ. I would also look into the other story I have heard. A bus or something that brings the airport workers.

[ILikeBigButts3]

So I hired a car today and got my phone unblocked at plaza central. The guy wanted 4000 then 1800, then settled on 1300. I gave him 1400 and he did the cheeky "Oh I don't have change" routine. I just reached into his front pocket and got my money and said he wouldn't get it back till I got 100 back, cause a tiny scene but no biggie.

In the evening I saw another DC chica and took her to a cabana near expressway las americas was the $250 for 2 hours, don't mind if I do. Unfortunately can't remember the name. Her nickname's belizima, nearly 19 and just check out her ass. Thank you platanos. I picked her up and drove her back but still offered 500 pesos as a gift but won't be seeing her again (face wasn't all that).

Later I headed home, and headed back out, I looked at the SD mongering map and mapped out where the street action was and headed towards autopista 30 de mayo from George Washington. I had my windows down as I was smoking, saw a cop car pull beside me, I kept looking straight but they still pulled me over, the sat nav must have tipped them off (that I'm a foreigner). They claimed I ran a red light, and that I'd have to go to the police station now to file the offence and then pay the fine tomorrow, where? Who knows.

As we drove down I remembered a post from one of the DR threads about a guy who was stopped, and when asked by the police to go to the station said yes and was then told to forget about it. I at first just tried to see if this was total bullshit (I really don't recall running a red light but wasn't certain). So I tried the waters, and I claim to only have a couple thousand pesos on me. So I say I'm from england and have Sterling, the one policeman sat beside me then asks the exchange rate (the f*ing cheek on this guy). He asks me to pull over, the policeman in the car behind us come to the passenger's window and they discuss what they can get out of me. The second policeman then says 2000 no bueno, so I say I've tried best I can let's go to the station. We head towards the "station" and he asks me to pull me over again. He asks for the 2000 pesos which I give him, I then ask for his number which he gives me (fake ofcourse) but I also ask to take a picture of his name badge and weirdly he lets me. I say bye and I make a you turn. They then catch up to me again with the siren and lights on. I stop and the guy who wasn't sat next to me isn't happy I've taken a picture of the other guy and wants me to delete it. I explain that I asked first and his face isn't in the picture just his badge. They're now both unhappy so I delete it and he then gives me the 2000 pesos back. I'm pretty chuffed at this point and carry on searching for chicas along 30 de mayo.

I pick up two women 1000 pesos each with anal sex included, get to hotel san francisco and one doesn't have a cedula. The kind man at reception hesistates for a while but then lets them through and tells me to be careful. We get into the room, they both rummage through the the room's mini-fridge and have a feast. They then want the money upfront, I say no, then they say ok just leave the money in the table, I say no again. At this point I tell them to leave, and they do not want to, I repeat it enough times that they do. They have a chat with the guy at reception, one is locked out of the main door while the other chats to the man on reception. I offer 500 for both she accepts and leaves, he friend enters and wants money too. The security guards tells me to head upstairs after a 10 minute back and forth, I then note flashing cop lights from the balcony as I have a smoke. I head downstairs after a little while, and reception guy tells me that the owner here is a known lawyer and that the policemen who came knew this, and that the security guard is also a policeman who had to fight them off verbally outside, and they were not let into the hotel.

I offer both the guy at reception and the security guard 500 each. I think if you want to come to this country you either have to speak good spanish, have usual contacts or not be phased with getting ripped off here and there. Not to put anyone off, it's great being here but I feel I must put what happened to me today. The issue with the two chicas was my fault I realise, but didn't know she didn't have one till she was here. I really didn't want to session with the one that had a cedula only as the other was more attractive and at 4 am didn't want to go to a cabana.

It's now nearly 6 am and after this troublesome day, I'm still horny.

[Mr Enternational]

Dammit man. I wish I was down there with you. You are doing everything to the T. You just will not roll over and be punked or scammed as some will lead you that you must do in order to avoid trouble. You are a great example for all the people who scare easily.

In the report, I wrote that I told the cops to give me the ticket and I will take it to the embassy the next day. And it was the same scam. Two national police guys on a motorcycle saying I went through a red light. I definitely would not admit to having ANY money. As soon as I see they are pulling me over then I hide it all.

[Frannie]

Piggybacking on Manizales', I have a further question. I have never been to SDQ airport. I would like to know (if anyone knows that is), how far is the Santo Domingo airport guagua stop from the terminal / s. I see on the map that the stop is (buses come from Boca chica or Higuey) where the highway is and from there it looks like a fairly long distance to the terminal. Question is: Is it possible to walk to the guagua stop. I have walked from the terminal to the main thoroughfare at POP the first time but it was a fairly short walk. Along with Frannie. I do not carry much luggage so I would like to try it at SDQ. I would also look into the other story I have heard. A bus or something that brings the airport workers.I think it is possible to walk to the guagua stop although I am not sure of the exact distance as the airport is on a kind of mini peninsula (possibly reclaimed land). On the map it looks like about a mile from the terminal to the highway. The trouble is that it can be very hot and dusty in that area. Outside the airport you can get a motoconcho that could take you to a parada de guaguas.

[Mr Gogo]

I think it is possible to walk to the guagua stop although I am not sure of the exact distance as the airport is on a kind of mini peninsula (possibly reclaimed land). On the map it looks like about a mile from the terminal to the highway. The trouble is that it can be very hot and dusty in that area. Outside the airport you can get a motoconcho that could take you to a parada de guaguas.Nope. The only way to get into the city on the cheap, being you don't have luggage, is to catch a motoconcho to Boca Chica then wait in front of the fish stand or the park for the gua gua to the city. You can walk two minutes (400 yards) from the airport to the highway to hail a motoconcho. The gua gua does not come to the airport.

[Manny51]

Dammit man. I wish I was down there with you. You are doing everything to the T. You just will not roll over and be punked or scammed as some will lead you that you must do in order to avoid trouble. You are a great example for all the people who scare easily.

In the report, I wrote that I told the cops to give me the ticket and I will take it to the embassy the next day. And it was the same scam. Two national police guys on a motorcycle saying I went through a red light. I definitely would not admit to having ANY money. As soon as I see they are pulling me over then I hide it all.Agree. That was a great story ILBB3. Both your stories make me wary of SD though. And I was thinking of heading down there for the Merengue festival.

[Tempoecorto]

I think it is possible to walk to the guagua stop although I am not sure of the exact distance as the airport is on a kind of mini peninsula (possibly reclaimed land). On the map it looks like about a mile from the terminal to the highway. The trouble is that it can be very hot and dusty in that area. Outside the airport you can get a motoconcho that could take you to a parada de guaguas.Ah. That makes sense. That the airport was built on reclaimed land. The motoconcho is a good suggestion. And another member here suggested that to me in a PM. I get to SDQ at 1 PM and so I feel comfortable trying out other options. The most intriguing part is of course finding out how the airport workers get to work which has to be a cheap and viable option. I found it out in Santiago and it was a fun adventure, works like a charm each time I need it.

[GrownMan1]

Dammit man. I wish I was down there with you. You are doing everything to the T. You just will not roll over and be punked or scammed as some will lead you that you must do in order to avoid trouble. You are a great example for all the people who scare easily.

In the report, I wrote that I told the cops to give me the ticket and I will take it to the embassy the next day. And it was the same scam. Two national police guys on a motorcycle saying I went through a red light. I definitely would not admit to having ANY money. As soon as I see they are pulling me over then I hide it all.Before I leave the house 300 pesos in my pocket the rest in my shoes! I go to the bathroom to switch up if I'm eating dinner or at a club. Sometimes I will have nothing. I will give my novia a 7 hundred to a thousand pesos. Its for us tonight at the disco she pay / I pay.

[Tempoecorto]

The issue with the two chicas was my fault I realise, Ya Habibi! You have balls as it appears to me. Many on their maiden trip (and some even on there nth) have complaints about cops, chicas and the whole enchilada. Of course, for a first timer from the ghetto without any language, it can be scary to see how the world moves. Managing cops the way you did was interesting and owning up to the issue of the to-rent chicas was very disarmingly good. May you have more fun in funland.

[Member #4643]

Does anyone know of a nice motel between the Intl airport in Sto Domingo and the city?

Thanks.

[Knowledge]

Cabanas, use the San Vicente or San Isidro cabanas, avoid the Los Frailes one, it is not at all for sleeping. You are better off getting a room in Boca Chica, cheaper and more comfortable.


Does anyone know of a nice motel between the Intl airport in Sto Domingo and the city?

Thanks.

[OldKool]

May be I am a wet blanket. Having two run ins with police is not a good thing. Ya you got away from the red light scam but you paid 2000 pesos and got it back. Let say the cops felt threaten AND WANTED TO put LITTLE MORE pressure on you. Next the run in with the putas could have got real ugly. These girls carry knives and razors. Many guys have had a puta trash his room when problems happen. You had two angry women could got real ugly. I am glad it worked out for you but it could have been very different on both counts. I keep my fun low risk. I do not drive in the SD and only do 3 somes when I know at least one of the girls well. The best way not to be scammed is to keep things simple and like you be lucky. I do not think it is ever a good idea to have confrontations with police.


Agree. That was a great story ILBB3. Both your stories make me wary of SD though. And I was thinking of heading down there for the Merengue festival.

[Frannie]

Nope. The only way to get into the city on the cheap, being you don't have luggage, is to catch a motoconcho to Boca Chica then wait in front of the fish stand or the park for the gua gua to the city. You can walk two minutes (400 yards) from the airport to the highway to hail a motoconcho. The gua gua does not come to the airport.Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.

[Mr Gogo]

Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.That is what I mean. I also mean you can not catch a Gua Gua once you get to the main highway. I'm sure if you were a pretty Dominicana or a friend of the driver, an exception could be made. But a gringo standing on the highway holding up 50 p will probably be bypassed.

[BoricuaOnline]

Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.One of the things I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is to take a motoconcho. To save a few dollars to take the method of transportation that give the Dominican Republic the highest per capita transportation death rate of the World is not for me. I always read the reports of incidents on Christmas or any holiday and most deaths and accidents are related to moto accidents. Maybe I am exagerating but safety in a foreign country is a major concern to me.

The other thing I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is not to drink beer.

[BoricuaOnline]

May be I am a wet blanket. Having two run ins with police is not a good thing. Ya you got away from the red light scam but you paid 2000 pesos and got it back. Let say the cops felt threaten AND WANTED TO put LITTLE MORE pressure on you. Next the run in with the putas could have got real ugly. These girls carry knives and razors. Many guys have had a puta trash his room when problems happen. You had two angry women could got real ugly. I am glad it worked out for you but it could have been very different on both counts. I keep my fun low risk. I do not drive in the SD and only do 3 somes when I know at least one of the girls well. The best way not to be scammed is to keep things simple and like you be lucky. I do not think it is ever a good idea to have confrontations with police.He has been very lucky, we all have read horror stories on similar situations. The incident inside the hotel can affect the guest policy to a more restrictive one, from multiple to single guest friendly, for example.

[Mr Enternational]

And another member here suggested that to me in a PM. I get to SDQ at 1 PM and so I feel comfortable trying out other options. The most intriguing part is of course finding out how the airport workers get to work which has to be a cheap and viable option. I found it out in Santiago and it was a fun adventure, works like a charm each time I need it.All the people who work in Las Americas get there through private shuttles that are arranged by their companies. It either picks them up at home or from various stops throughout the city, depending on what time they work.

[Knowledge]

You are not a wet blanket, you are a voice of reason. I hope people pay attention to what you said because it is spot on. Boricua is right about this too. Putting ourselves in the sort of situations described by the original poster is very unwise because eventually the luck will run out. You can only fuck one girl at a time so bringing more than one to your room means you will pay more for the second one to be distracting you and getting into mischief - - stealing anything that is not nailed down. It's a classic signal that there is about to be easy pickings. Giving money to the police in the street or anywhere else is unnecessary and can be dangerous. They will rob you if they get the chance and they will kill you if they think they are in trouble and need to get out of it. avoid the police as much as possible. I know they pull over anybody who looks like they have money or is a foreigner (same thing for them) whenever they think they can get away with it. They will use any excuse and the technique is to annoy you, scare you, and delay you so handing over money seems like the easy way out. I make it clear I will not pay and I am willing to wait the rest of my life and I am not afraid and I will go to the police station. They always go away. Sometimes they will save face by saying "you seem like a good man" or "you are a friend of the police" but they always go away. So, original poster, I hope you change what you are doing because it will end badly for you if you don't.


May be I am a wet blanket. Having two run ins with police is not a good thing. Ya you got away from the red light scam but you paid 2000 pesos and got it back. Let say the cops felt threaten AND WANTED TO put LITTLE MORE pressure on you. Next the run in with the putas could have got real ugly. These girls carry knives and razors. Many guys have had a puta trash his room when problems happen. You had two angry women could got real ugly. I am glad it worked out for you but it could have been very different on both counts. I keep my fun low risk. I do not drive in the SD and only do 3 somes when I know at least one of the girls well. The best way not to be scammed is to keep things simple and like you be lucky. I do not think it is ever a good idea to have confrontations with police.

[Knowledge]

No motoconcho is excellent advice.

Not drink beer, you a funny motherfucker, always funny Boricua.


One of the things I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is to take a motoconcho. To save a few dollars to take the method of transportation that give the Dominican Republic the highest per capita transportation death rate of the World is not for me. I always read the reports of incidents on Christmas or any holiday and most deaths and accidents are related to moto accidents. Maybe I am exagerating but safety in a foreign country is a major concern to me.

The other thing I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is not to drink beer.

[Knowledge]

The best advice I can give is take a taxi if you don't want to rent a car. If you don't have enough money for a taxi or a rental car, stay home and save your money until you have enough, then come.

Why? Because 1) it is too far to walk with or without luggage 2) you could get robbed waiting for a bus or by a motoconcho who picks you up (they know you are foreign and have money leaving the airport) 3) you will lose a lot of time waiting and transferring and waiting again.


Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.

[Mr Gogo]

I stand corrected. BQ Ribs rode the Gua Gua to Boca Chica today and gave me the details. There are two guaguas, the one with red letters and one with blue letters. They bring you to Parque Independecia from the main highway from the airport. BQ said you can flag it down.

[BoricuaOnline]

I stand corrected. BQ Ribs rode the Gua Gua to Boca Chica today and gave me the details. There are two guaguas, the one with red letters and one with blue letters. They bring you to Parque Independecia from the main highway from the airport. BQ said you can flag it down.Where is BQ? He should be posting here. Sorry, I forgot, he spend all his time delivering ham and cheese sandwiches and balloons to street girls.

What about the bus you can reserve online that cost about 18 $, does it still exist. ? Something like a to b buses or transfers.

[Grandnash84]

So I hired a car today and got my phone unblocked at plaza central. The guy wanted 4000 then 1800, then settled on 1300. I gave him 1400 and he did the cheeky "Oh I don't have change" routine. I just reached into his front pocket and got my money and said he wouldn't get it back till I got 100 back, cause a tiny scene but no biggie.

In the evening I saw another DC chica and took her to a cabana near expressway las americas was the $250 for 2 hours, don't mind if I do. Unfortunately can't remember the name. Her nickname's belizima, nearly 19 and just check out her ass. Thank you platanos. I picked her up and drove her back but still offered 500 pesos as a gift but won't be seeing her again (face wasn't all that).

Later I headed home, and headed back out, I looked at the SD mongering map and mapped out where the street action was and headed towards autopista 30 de mayo from George Washington. I had my windows down as I was smoking, saw a cop car pull beside me, I kept looking straight but they still pulled me over, the sat nav must have tipped them off (that I'm a foreigner). They claimed I ran a red light, and that I'd have to go to the police station now to file the offence and then pay the fine tomorrow, where? Who knows.

As we drove down I remembered a post from one of the DR threads about a guy who was stopped, and when asked by the police to go to the station said yes and was then told to forget about it. I at first just tried to see if this was total bullshit (I really don't recall running a red light but wasn't certain). So I tried the waters, and I claim to only have a couple thousand pesos on me. So I say I'm from england and have Sterling, the one policeman sat beside me then asks the exchange rate (the f*ing cheek on this guy). He asks me to pull over, the policeman in the car behind us come to the passenger's window and they discuss what they can get out of me. The second policeman then says 2000 no bueno, so I say I've tried best I can let's go to the station. We head towards the "station" and he asks me to pull me over again. He asks for the 2000 pesos which I give him, I then ask for his number which he gives me (fake ofcourse) but I also ask to take a picture of his name badge and weirdly he lets me. I say bye and I make a you turn. They then catch up to me again with the siren and lights on. I stop and the guy who wasn't sat next to me isn't happy I've taken a picture of the other guy and wants me to delete it. I explain that I asked first and his face isn't in the picture just his badge. They're now both unhappy so I delete it and he then gives me the 2000 pesos back. I'm pretty chuffed at this point and carry on searching for chicas along 30 de mayo.

I pick up two women 1000 pesos each with anal sex included, get to hotel san francisco and one doesn't have a cedula. The kind man at reception hesistates for a while but then lets them through and tells me to be careful. We get into the room, they both rummage through the the room's mini-fridge and have a feast. They then want the money upfront, I say no, then they say ok just leave the money in the table, I say no again. At this point I tell them to leave, and they do not want to, I repeat it enough times that they do. They have a chat with the guy at reception, one is locked out of the main door while the other chats to the man on reception. I offer 500 for both she accepts and leaves, he friend enters and wants money too. The security guards tells me to head upstairs after a 10 minute back and forth, I then note flashing cop lights from the balcony as I have a smoke. I head downstairs after a little while, and reception guy tells me that the owner here is a known lawyer and that the policemen who came knew this, and that the security guard is also a policeman who had to fight them off verbally outside, and they were not let into the hotel.

I offer both the guy at reception and the security guard 500 each. I think if you want to come to this country you either have to speak good spanish, have usual contacts or not be phased with getting ripped off here and there. Not to put anyone off, it's great being here but I feel I must put what happened to me today. The issue with the two chicas was my fault I realise, but didn't know she didn't have one till she was here. I really didn't want to session with the one that had a cedula only as the other was more attractive and at 4 am didn't want to go to a cabana.

It's now nearly 6 am and after this troublesome day, I'm still horny.Was going to comment yesterday but held my tounge. Bro you are on vacation, seems like you like chilling wit cops more than the chicas. Don't know if your stories are true or false but don't listen to other members on the board telling you that you did the right thing and you stood up for yourself. No matter their post count and how many times they go to the dr, don't listen to them, they are just pumping you up to get arrested. No matter the situtation, you are not dominican, so you are fighting a up hill battle automatically. Seems to me like you wasted hours dealing with the police and arguing over maybe $10-20 at the most. Not worth it to me. I'd rather just pay and get the chica out of there. Been going to the dr for about 3 years and more than 12 trips later, I never had a chica try to rob or play me. Its all about how you present yourself. I'm not you, so I don't know how you think, but when I'm on vacation I do not like dealing with the police or any situtation which may endager my safety. If you don't care about your safety or welfare then keep doing what yur doing. But then it brings me to my first question, why even go on vacation in the first place if all you want to do is argue with chicas and hang out with cops?

[Puntz79]

I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?POP is the most convenient airport being only a 10 min cab ride to PC, but it's also an expensive airport to fly into. Flights are also limited to just daytime hours, so that can affect the amount of time one wants to spend in Sosua. Personally I find it more cost-effective to fly into Santiago and take a cab to Sosua, which usually runs around $80 - $100. Or you can take a bus which will be a lot cheaper. Or. What I have done on recent trips is fly into POP and go back home out of STI. It will usually mean purchasing a one-way ticket on American and then one way back with the others as Santiago has more flight options which I prefer. For a quick weekend I'll take the daytime flight on Friday from MIA to POP that gets in around 2 PM. I'm on the strip by 2:30 PM. And then head back home on Sunday by taking one of the late evening flights from STI and get back home Monday morning for work. While SDQ is a little further out, I find that from MIA it's convenient with the number of flight options. I just wish it wasn't a bit of a drive to Sosua.

I usually find Orange to be better than Claro having tried both, but I'm sure others may have different experiences.

[Mr Gogo]

where is bq? he should be posting here. sorry, i forgot, he spend all his time delivering ham and cheese sandwiches and balloons to street girls.

what about the bus you can reserve online that cost about 18 $, does it still exist. ? something like a to b buses or transfers.bq is living the life. he lives in gascue a block from the malecon. he says the only problem he has is that his asian neighbors are peeping toms when he is getting head from a dominicana on his balcony lmao.

[Manizales911]

POP is the most convenient airport being only a 10 min cab ride to PC, but it's also an expensive airport to fly into. Flights are also limited to just daytime hours, so that can affect the amount of time one wants to spend in Sosua. Personally I find it more cost-effective to fly into Santiago and take a cab to Sosua, which usually runs around $80 - $100. Or you can take a bus which will be a lot cheaper. Or. What I have done on recent trips is fly into POP and go back home out of STI. It will usually mean purchasing a one-way ticket on American and then one way back with the others as Santiago has more flight options which I prefer. For a quick weekend I'll take the daytime flight on Friday from MIA to POP that gets in around 2 PM. I'm on the strip by 2:30 PM. And then head back home on Sunday by taking one of the late evening flights from STI and get back home Monday morning for work. While SDQ is a little further out, I find that from MIA it's convenient with the number of flight options. I just wish it wasn't a bit of a drive to Sosua.

I usually find Orange to be better than Claro having tried both, but I'm sure others may have different experiences.Actually the flights out of MIA were $650.into POP And the flights from MIA into SDQ were $320. That makes it a no brainer for me.

[Manizales911]

The best advice I can give is take a taxi if you don't want to rent a car. If you don't have enough money for a taxi or a rental car, stay home and save your money until you have enough, then come.Hahahaha, Seeing as I have a home in Colombia and a home in Connecticut and bounce between those two places and the DR constantly I seriously doubt I will be staying home, hahaha.

[ILikeBigButts3]

Was going to comment yesterday but held my tounge. Bro you are on vacation, seems like you like chilling wit cops more than the chicas. Don't know if your stories are true or false but don't listen to other members on the board telling you that you did the right thing and you stood up for yourself. No matter their post count and how many times they go to the dr, don't listen to them, they are just pumping you up to get arrested. No matter the situtation, you are not dominican, so you are fighting a up hill battle automatically. Seems to me like you wasted hours dealing with the police and arguing over maybe $10-20 at the most. Not worth it to me. I'd rather just pay and get the chica out of there. Been going to the dr for about 3 years and more than 12 trips later, I never had a chica try to rob or play me. Its all about how you present yourself. I'm not you, so I don't know how you think, but when I'm on vacation I do not like dealing with the police or any situtation which may endager my safety. If you don't care about your safety or welfare then keep doing what yur doing. But then it brings me to my first question, why even go on vacation in the first place if all you want to do is argue with chicas and hang out with cops?I'm glad you've shared your opinion with us. This is the first time I've ever had problems in the DR, the thing is I find, in Santo Domingo everyone wants something from you, I remember reading a post here about an immigration agent asking for money on written on a piece of paper which I was shocked to read but now I can totally see that happening. Last night I got stopped again, this time by two cops on a single bike, (one of them riding bi**ch). This time there was no red light scam, they simply just asked for money and the reason they claim to stop me was that my new hire car had no metal license plate, just a piece of paper with the plate number tapped to the rear window. They quickly left after I said I had no money. The incident with the taxi when I landed was truly frustrating, and I am not a patient man at the best of times so I did what I felt was right. I had no time to waste since I was suppose to be meeting someone in the capital. The incident with the chicas, well 2000 pesos for two chicks was a bargain and I love a bargain. I will say that in the capital, in the malecon area at night there are many cop cars with nothing better to do than look for quick money. I'm not sure if I mentioned on the second or third day I was stopped by the police whilst walking in the night, on the street parallel to pasteur and was asked for I'd, I had none and was just asked to lift my shirt and then they left me to it. Even after the incident with the chicas the guy at reception at the hotel said worst comes to worst he was going to pay the cops to leave. Cops here are the worst than ever come across and I've been to some very corrupt countries. Perhaps I have bad luck or a face that asks for trouble, either way paying for stuff to get you out of trouble is equally not a good lesson to learn, be it $5 or $xxxx. Each incident I felt things out, obviously I'm reacting and not acting out because I am looking for trouble but reacting to the situation, If paying the chicas off with more money was the best solution I would have, and besides after tipping the security guy and night receptionist and 500 to one of the chicas I payed 1500 in total for what was suppose to be a 2000 deal.

I am on vacation and my aim is to enjoy myself without being someone's ATM machine when they see fit. If you speak no spanish you will get bent over and done up the ass in the capital one way or the other, if not by the cops then by the chicas, or even by the hotel or the hire car company you choose as well as taxis.

I caught a bus to Sosua today, after doing a day trip yesterday to see a DC chica in santiago. Caribe tours bus left a few minutes past 3 and didn't get to sosua till 8:15 maybe. One of the guys working for caribe tours wanted all our attention, and basically said in spanish that he needs Aids medication which costs him 30,000 pesos a month and that his job doesn't pay that much and obviously he needs the drugs. I was skeptical but once I saw that people were giving him money and saying take care and stuff like that I gave him some too (2000). That was selfish I must say as it felt good to give.

I hit GBP yesterday evening, was tricky to find, even with the info on here, though it certainly helped. there were quite a few chicas, maybe close to a dozen, and a lot of young dominican men, hardly any seats. I didn't sit just looked around picked one chick, then another and sessioned with both for 1500 pesos. For the price it was excellent but they wouldn't kiss each other and they even wiped off their saliva after sucking me off before the other did. One girl even asked the other to take the condom off after I'd f*cked her as she didn't want to touch the other's juice i guess. but for the price can't argue, though i def won't be going again. tons of better looking ladies in the DR than are easy to find. I've been to all the citas on pasteur, also same thing better looking girls elsewhere for 3-4000 pesos. I also picked up a girl opposite the pharmacy/claro/bank popular on avenida indepencia for a blow job for 400 pesos in the car, best head in a long time.

As a last note Sosua is way different than when I was last here, many gringo couples, even a few teenage kids, tables and chairs everywhere. Chicas in Rumbas asking me to keep it down when talking about cash. Oh and to answer your question I am on vacation to bang some big ass chicks that speak spanish, I'm not looking for trouble but it seems to find me in the capital.

PS I've been telling everyone that mi abuelo es de aqui (my grandfather is dominican) and I've been pulling it off.

[BoricuaOnline]

I am here at hostal San Francisco de Asis, $40 per night, air conditioner working great, also wi-fi. Lucky me I got a room on the left wing, electric service went out minutes ago and the electric plant is at the other side of the hotel. I exchanged cash at Franks in el Conde, 43.25 pesos per dollar. Bank at the airport is paying 43.10, Western Union and Caribe Express should be 43.35.

I asked info about transportation from the airport. You can walk to the outside street that leads to Boca Chica, a very short walk from the terminal, take the bus to Boca Chica, the one that makes stops. In Boca Chica terminal take the Expreso Boca Chica to the city and there you can take a taxi to any area. To Bocachica you have to be on the sea side part of the street.

Security and customs employees gets free transport on shuttle buses, other airport employees use public transportation, they left their buses near the airport on the highway and then take a motoconcho to the airport as I observed today.

This is boricuaonline, reporting live from Santo Domingo.

[Tempoecorto]

This is boricuaonline, reporting live from Santo Domingo.Very good info and an interesting journalistic sign off! I will get to use the info next week. Thanks much.

[BoricuaOnline]

Very good info and an interesting journalistic sign off! I will get to use the info next week. Thanks much.I intended to visit Slip on Me massage place today. I called Aero taxi and asked the fare between my hotel and street number 3 on Malecon. They do not know any 3rd street. I told them is after Club Libanes. 160 pesos. Use Club Libanes as a reference to get near Slip on me. The cab driver do not know where 3rd street was so I told him leave 2 streets after this one labeled as number 1. I began walking around trying to get to the place. I asked several persons about third street, nobody knows. I called the place several times, nobody answer. I went to a colmadon, to a gas station, they do not know street number 3. I called the place, they finally answer: " we are on a yellow building after Club libanes but we are booked for today you can make an appointment for next week. " Bah. So next Thursday I am going there. I called Aero to pick me in front of Club Libanes. Trip back cost 150 pesos. The security from club offered me a chair while I waited, so I seat in the shadow in front of security booth. People entering in the car began to stop in front of me asking as if I was a security guard. I asked the first lady: "are you from Israel?" (Club Libanes is the social club for local palestinian, sirian and lebanon people). But I rapidly told the lady that I am not from security. The lady laughed. The cab arrived and I went to Villar Hermanos where I had a delicious lunch for 7 $. I was thinking going to GBP but I have a date for tonight so I decided to spend all my energy with her.

Power went out again. I re activated my local Claro cellphone for 150 pesos.

Later.

[Knowledge]

Boricua,

You broke the taxi ripoff trend. I hope everybody noticed the two things you did 1) confirmed the fare before beginning trip 2) knew where you were going.

Very funny story about the club Libanes and you being taken for security guard. There are a lot of rich Lebanese in the Dominican Republic and all over the Caribbean.


I intended to visit Slip on Me massage place today. I called Aero taxi and asked the fare between my hotel and street number 3 on Malecon. They do not know any 3rd street. I told them is after Club Libanes. 160 pesos. Use Club Libanes as a reference to get near Slip on me. The cab driver do not know where 3rd street was so I told him leave 2 streets after this one labeled as number 1. I began walking around trying to get to the place. I asked several persons about third street, nobody knows. I called the place several times, nobody answer. I went to a colmadon, to a gas station, they do not know street number 3. I called the place, they finally answer: " we are on a yellow building after Club libanes but we are booked for today you can make an appointment for next week. " Bah. So next Thursday I am going there. I called Aero to pick me in front of Club Libanes. Trip back cost 150 pesos. The security from club offered me a chair while I waited, so I seat in the shadow in front of security booth. People entering in the car began to stop in front of me asking as if I was a security guard. I asked the first lady: "are you from Israel?" (Club Libanes is the social club for local palestinian, sirian and lebanon people). But I rapidly told the lady that I am not from security. The lady laughed. The cab arrived and I went to Villar Hermanos where I had a delicious lunch for 7 $. I was thinking going to GBP but I have a date for tonight so I decided to spend all my energy with her.

Power went out again. I re activated my local Claro cellphone for 150 pesos.

Later.

[BoricuaOnline]

Boricua,

You broke the taxi ripoff trend. I hope everybody noticed the two things you did 1) confirmed the fare before beginning trip 2) knew where you were going.

Very funny story about the club Libanes and you being taken for security guard. There are a lot of rich Lebanese in the Dominican Republic and all over the Caribbean.Today I paid 160 pesos from Agora Mall to my hotel. I paid nothing from my hotel to Agora since the lady I had sex with today has a suv and gave me a ride. I met the lady from Badoo and finally met her in person today. She has large fake tits, evidently before the enhancing she was cup negative A since the implant took all her titty area. Her best sexual skill is oral sex, she can be doing it for a long time without losing her SPM (sucking per minute) pressure. Before sex we talked for a while, maybe for an hour, a mutual massage make the transition to the sexual activity. Evidently she has managed her revenue well, although she told me the car is her father's car, evidently it is hers or her father loves pinky accesories. She worked on Lebanon once, so she has international experience. At the beginning is was just going to be a rutinary sexual experience but I seduced her into the GFE, selling the fantasy that we can be in a serious long term relationship. So additional to sex we kissed and hugged with intensity. It was very good, but tonight I am going to repeat with yesterday night lady, she was good, very very good. We spent a couple of hours at Jaragua merengue bar enjoying the live show and drinking 200 pesos small beer. She is a flaquita (slim) caucasian lady from Santiago. She offered me next Friday to visist and stay in Santiago for the night to visit a tipico local place with live merengue apambichao music. Sounds like a new and nice experience to have. My plan is to spend a night in Matum hotel.

[Knowledge]

Matum is a good choice. Don't "pegar cuernos a tu chica Badoo con los cueros del monumento"- they will try to get at you if you go to Kukamakara or those other joints around the monument. There will be some loose women in the Diamante Casino in the Matum too. The Santiago tipicos are friendlier than the Puerto Plata / Nagua / places. People are into having a good time instead of gunplay and drug gang bragging. You are making all the right moves Boricua. Get yourself a plan be date for the next day or the same night because Santiago can be real quiet when you don't have anything lined up.


Today I paid 160 pesos from Agora Mall to my hotel. I paid nothing from my hotel to Agora since the lady I had sex with today has a suv and gave me a ride. I met the lady from Badoo and finally met her in person today. She has large fake tits, evidently before the enhancing she was cup negative A since the implant took all her titty area. Her best sexual skill is oral sex, she can be doing it for a long time without losing her SPM (sucking per minute) pressure. Before sex we talked for a while, maybe for an hour, a mutual massage make the transition to the sexual activity. Evidently she has managed her revenue well, although she told me the car is her father's car, evidently it is hers or her father loves pinky accesories. She worked on Lebanon once, so she has international experience. At the beginning is was just going to be a rutinary sexual experience but I seduced her into the GFE, selling the fantasy that we can be in a serious long term relationship. So additional to sex we kissed and hugged with intensity. It was very good, but tonight I am going to repeat with yesterday night lady, she was good, very very good. We spent a couple of hours at Jaragua merengue bar enjoying the live show and drinking 200 pesos small beer. She is a flaquita (slim) caucasian lady from Santiago. She offered me next Friday to visist and stay in Santiago for the night to visit a tipico local place with live merengue apambichao music. Sounds like a new and nice experience to have. My plan is to spend a night in Matum hotel.

[Puntz79]

I'm glad you've shared your opinion with us. This is the first time I've ever had problems in the DR, the thing is I find, in Santo Domingo everyone wants something from you, I remember reading a post here about an immigration agent asking for money on written on a piece of paper which I was shocked to read but now I can totally see that happening. Last night I got stopped again, this time by two cops on a single bike, (one of them riding bi**ch). This time there was no red light scam, they simply just asked for money and the reason they claim to stop me was that my new hire car had no metal license plate, just a piece of paper with the plate number tapped to the rear window. They quickly left after I said I had no money. The incident with the taxi when I landed was truly frustrating, and I am not a patient man at the best of times so I did what I felt was right. I had no time to waste since I was suppose to be meeting someone in the capital. The incident with the chicas, well 2000 pesos for two chicks was a bargain and I love a bargain. I will say that in the capital, in the malecon area at night there are many cop cars with nothing better to do than look for quick money. I'm not sure if I mentioned on the second or third day I was stopped by the police whilst walking in the night, on the street parallel to pasteur and was asked for I'd, I had none and was just asked to lift my shirt and then they left me to it. Even after the incident with the chicas the guy at reception at the hotel said worst comes to worst he was going to pay the cops to leave. Cops here are the worst than ever come across and I've been to some very corrupt countries. Perhaps I have bad luck or a face that asks for trouble, either way paying for stuff to get you out of trouble is equally not a good lesson to learn, be it $5 or $xxxx. Each incident I felt things out, obviously I'm reacting and not acting out because I am looking for trouble but reacting to the situation, If paying the chicas off with more money was the best solution I would have, and besides after tipping the security guy and night receptionist and 500 to one of the chicas I payed 1500 in total for what was suppose to be a 2000 deal.

I am on vacation and my aim is to enjoy myself without being someone's ATM machine when they see fit. If you speak no spanish you will get bent over and done up the ass in the capital one way or the other, if not by the cops then by the chicas, or even by the hotel or the hire car company you choose as well as taxis.

I caught a bus to Sosua today, after doing a day trip yesterday to see a DC chica in santiago. Caribe tours bus left a few minutes past 3 and didn't get to sosua till 8:15 maybe. One of the guys working for caribe tours wanted all our attention, and basically said in spanish that he needs Aids medication which costs him 30,000 pesos a month and that his job doesn't pay that much and obviously he needs the drugs. I was skeptical but once I saw that people were giving him money and saying take care and stuff like that I gave him some too (2000). That was selfish I must say as it felt good to give.

I hit GBP yesterday evening, was tricky to find, even with the info on here, though it certainly helped. there were quite a few chicas, maybe close to a dozen, and a lot of young dominican men, hardly any seats. I didn't sit just looked around picked one chick, then another and sessioned with both for 1500 pesos. For the price it was excellent but they wouldn't kiss each other and they even wiped off their saliva after sucking me off before the other did. One girl even asked the other to take the condom off after I'd f*cked her as she didn't want to touch the other's juice i guess. but for the price can't argue, though i def won't be going again. tons of better looking ladies in the DR than are easy to find. I've been to all the citas on pasteur, also same thing better looking girls elsewhere for 3-4000 pesos. I also picked up a girl opposite the pharmacy/claro/bank popular on avenida indepencia for a blow job for 400 pesos in the car, best head in a long time.

As a last note Sosua is way different than when I was last here, many gringo couples, even a few teenage kids, tables and chairs everywhere. Chicas in Rumbas asking me to keep it down when talking about cash. Oh and to answer your question I am on vacation to bang some big ass chicks that speak spanish, I'm not looking for trouble but it seems to find me in the capital.

PS I've been telling everyone that mi abuelo es de aqui (my grandfather is dominican) and I've been pulling it off.Maybe you do have a face that looks like trouble, I'm not sure but this is very strange. It's been almost one year now since I've been going to the DR, I've been there at least 7-8 times between Santo Domingo, Santiago, and Sosua with my average trip being 2-3 days and I'm a guy that likes to walk a lot and get out and about. I have yet to be stopped by a cop in the last 12 months (knock on wood). Yet you've been stopped what? Multiple times a day? I can understand if it was once during a trip. Maybe even twice. But it really does seem like you spend more time with cops than you do for the actual purpose you are in DR.

Hope your luck with the cops improves, vacations are meant to be enjoyed.

[Tempoecorto]

Landed at 2.00 PM at SDQ. More than an hour late flight. It was very hot outside. I went to the departure area and saw a minibus waiting for people but the idiot wanted 500 pesos to take me to where I wanted to go. Parque independencia. Not many potentilal passengers and so the wait was long too. I had some cash but after paying for a claro simcard and 200 pesos of minutes I did not have 500 pesos to give him and I felt he was overcharging. In any case, this was not the bus I thought it would be. Speaking to a few guys. Porters and so forth, I was told that there is a van than charges 70 pesos but alas, I could not prove it.

I walked across the parking lot and the heat was intense. Called a concho. He came and loaded my small bag on the gas holder and I rode on the pillion. He took me across the highway. The side going to the city. That bit was dicey as the system does not quite allow for a crossing at the inersection. The ride otherwise was uneventful. The airport road was empty. The conchista took me to the terminus where a A / see minibus was waiting. That bus starts there. I told the conductor my destination, he nodded and took my luggage. It is 50 pesos to the town but because my luggage took one slot, I was asked to pay for two seats - 100 pesos. The conchista on the other hand, I overpaid - 100 pesos. For 200 pesos, I got where I wanted to go. However not recommended for others.

[Tempoecorto]

I was supposed to have received a visit from a local at 5 pm but she gave a bunch of excuses as to why she can't be where I am before 6 pm so I cut her off. The place I am staying (not a hotel but a property that belongs to a German from Stuttgart, is a street intersecting el conde. The road that is not open to motorized vehicle. I did not eat the whole day so sat at a place previously known as Pacos. Asked for Mangu with an egg which cost a fucking 200 pesos. Came also with fried cheese and salami, stuff that fatten the DR. Asked them to pack those uneatables and gave it to a young man who could do with some food.

As I walked out on El Conde at night, realized there were a whole bunch of females soliciting there. One wanted to tag along. I told her I felt like being alone. She suggested to get together for 1500, I said what and the price went down to 1000. Anyway, just random females do not do it for me so, walked on Av (Calle) Independencia to get to Hermanos Villar. A forum member had told me that it is walkable. Indeed a leisurely 15 minutes. There are tens of women standing around along that road until I reached the restaurant but the food did not look too appetizing. I also realized that I had been there two years back but did not recall the name. Anyway, on the way back, stopped at a colmado, bought a presidente for 70 pesos and returned to my place walking. Overall, an average day, without any female company. Tomorrow someone is supposed to show up at 10 AM. Famous last words.

Exchange rate: 43.30 on el Conde. I also bought a data pack from claro: 300 pesos - 7 days /700 MB.

[Knowledge]

You risked your life to save a few hundred pesos. I am happy you were not injured.


Landed at 2.00 PM at SDQ. More than an hour late flight. It was very hot outside. I went to the departure area and saw a minibus waiting for people but the idiot wanted 500 pesos to take me to where I wanted to go. Parque independencia. Not many potentilal passengers and so the wait was long too. I had some cash but after paying for a claro simcard and 200 pesos of minutes I did not have 500 pesos to give him and I felt he was overcharging. In any case, this was not the bus I thought it would be. Speaking to a few guys. Porters and so forth, I was told that there is a van than charges 70 pesos but alas, I could not prove it.

I walked across the parking lot and the heat was intense. Called a concho. He came and loaded my small bag on the gas holder and I rode on the pillion. He took me across the highway. The side going to the city. That bit was dicey as the system does not quite allow for a crossing at the inersection. The ride otherwise was uneventful. The airport road was empty. The conchista took me to the terminus where a A / see minibus was waiting. That bus starts there. I told the conductor my destination, he nodded and took my luggage. It is 50 pesos to the town but because my luggage took one slot, I was asked to pay for two seats - 100 pesos. The conchista on the other hand, I overpaid - 100 pesos. For 200 pesos, I got where I wanted to go. However not recommended for others.

[Mr Enternational]

You risked your life to save a few hundred pesos. I am happy you were not injured.Laypeople are saying the same thing about mongers. You are risking your life being with hookers. It's all part of living. Different experiences for different people. Someone has to pioneer it. Everyone does not stay on eggshells when in the DR. Good job Tempo.

[BoricuaOnline]

I spent a few days on Barcelo Capella in Juan Dolio. To go to JD I took a taxi to Parque Enriquillo, 160 pesos and there I took the regular bus, not the expreso to La Romana. It cost 70 pesos and they left me in front of the street entrance that leads to my hotel. Although the Capella was good there are better all inclusives. Anyway I spend a day alone, next day my chica arrived after confusing my instructions to go to Juan Dolio because when she called and said. "I am waiting for you at the lobby" she was in fact in Hamaca hotel lobby in Boca Chica. Her confussion was the joke of the day. We spent two days together, it was very nice, like a honeymoon without the marriage.

For some reason we ended our stay at the resort tired so instead of returning back to the city on public transportation a taxi offered $30 for the Juan Dolio to Santo Domingo transfer so I accepted. Back to Hostal I got a room at floor 2 that satisfies my needs of a place with ice cold air conditioning. My chica went home. By night I had a meal at Villar and later I walked to Jaragua. I observed Policia Nacional very active around malecon and Independencia solo only 3 streetgirls were available after midnight. At Jaragua I was always flirting with one of the waitress but after she saw me with a girl, and in posterior visits with two other girls she bacame unfriendly to me. Yesterday she saw me alone and asked: "alone today or your chica of the night is late?" I told her I was alone and that the other girls were just friends and that I wanted to be her friend. She laughed and I told her that wanted to go out with her. She gave me her number with the bill, yay.

I walked the Independencia and only 3 girls on the street, no one I like so no blowjob for yesterday night.

Today I went early to Slip on Me massage place, on koplan building two blocks after club Libanes on el malecon. The cost of taxi was 160 pesos. The building is a residential one with some office space, the elevators do not work. Slip on Me is on a fith floor, space 504, the place is an apartment where rooms are used as massage areas. The place entrance is in the back part of the building. From the girls available I chose Nikki, a pettite blonde. The cost of the massage is 2,300 pesos. Once in the room you get nude and she gave you a shower. We go the massage bed and she used plenty of warm gel to give you a body to body massage. At the beginning I was just letting her giving the massage but I had to touch that body, no problem to do it. The massage included a handjob. Nikki was very nice and let me see her fully nude, they use a panty while giving the massage. The room was semi dark with a live merengue band playing during massage time. Kidding is was relaxing music from a music player.

The massage ends with another shower to take out all that gel.

To be continued.

[Talion]

I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.

[Grub1]

I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.The people I know who are Dominicans that live in the DR like going to Santo Domingo because it has way more of everything because of it's size. But for me it is one big hassle the women cost 4 times as much as they do in Sosua and other parts of the DR and the 5-0 is every where.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.Simply put in the capital you can find GFE options a lot easier, in Sosua it's all p4 p now in the capital you will find women to date and obviously dating also costs money but obviously it's different. If your budget permits hire a car and get to know the city well, you won't be bored or wish you were in Sosua.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I spent a few days on Barcelo Capella in Juan Dolio. To go to JD I took a taxi to Parque Enriquillo, 160 pesos and there I took the regular bus, not the expreso to La Romana. It cost 70 pesos and they left me in front of the street entrance that leads to my hotel. Although the Capella was good there are better all inclusives. Anyway I spend a day alone, next day my chica arrived after confusing my instructions to go to Juan Dolio because when she called and said. "I am waiting for you at the lobby" she was in fact in Hamaca hotel lobby in Boca Chica. Her confussion was the joke of the day. We spent two days together, it was very nice, like a honeymoon without the marriage.

For some reason we ended our stay at the resort tired so instead of returning back to the city on public transportation a taxi offered $30 for the Juan Dolio to Santo Domingo transfer so I accepted. Back to Hostal I got a room at floor 2 that satisfies my needs of a place with ice cold air conditioning. My chica went home. By night I had a meal at Villar and later I walked to Jaragua. I observed Policia Nacional very active around malecon and Independencia solo only 3 streetgirls were available after midnight. At Jaragua I was always flirting with one of the waitress but after she saw me with a girl, and in posterior visits with two other girls she bacame unfriendly to me. Yesterday she saw me alone and asked: "alone today or your chica of the night is late?" I told her I was alone and that the other girls were just friends and that I wanted to be her friend. She laughed and I told her that wanted to go out with her. She gave me her number with the bill, yay.

I walked the Independencia and only 3 girls on the street, no one I like so no blowjob for yesterday night.

Today I went early to Slip on Me massage place, on koplan building two blocks after club Libanes on el malecon. The cost of taxi was 160 pesos. The building is a residential one with some office space, the elevators do not work. Slip on Me is on a fith floor, space 504, the place is an apartment where rooms are used as massage areas. The place entrance is in the back part of the building. From the girls available I chose Nikki, a pettite blonde. The cost of the massage is 2,300 pesos. Once in the room you get nude and she gave you a shower. We go the massage bed and she used plenty of warm gel to give you a body to body massage. At the beginning I was just letting her giving the massage but I had to touch that body, no problem to do it. The massage included a handjob. Nikki was very nice and let me see her fully nude, they use a panty while giving the massage. The room was semi dark with a live merengue band playing during massage time. Kidding is was relaxing music from a music player.

The massage ends with another shower to take out all that gel.

To be continued.I'm back now but I also noticed a lot of police cars sometimes three or more alond Malecon at once and a couple on independencia. Be cautious if hiring a car, and even walking on quiet streets. Also ask reception at asis for a spare key so you can leave the ac on 24/7 as they take ages to cool down the room.

[Talion]

Simply put in the capital you can find GFE options a lot easier, in Sosua it's all p4 p now in the capital you will find women to date and obviously dating also costs money but obviously it's different. If your budget permits hire a car and get to know the city well, you won't be bored or wish you were in Sosua.I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.

[Tempoecorto]

The 21 year old (mentioned in the previous post) supposed to show up at 10 did not show up. To make matters worse, she does not even have a phone so I left a message at the website she uses once a while, to say goodbye and that I waited 40 minutes. Then at 12.15, I see her Badoo message flashing on phone. She is there at Parque independencia but had gotten delayed with the babysitting. I told her "sorry".

I get back to my place at 11 and call another person I had called earlier. She is nice on the phone, says she is free but given the rush, she needs a cab. She is from Pantoja. Very far from zona colonial. I have not had any dick exercise since I landed and so in my stupidity, I say ok .400 pesos. She shows up at 1230 finally and I pay the cab. Then I realize, I made a mistake. She looks nice, 19, very nice pair of knockers but has a long face. I thank her for her coming at such a short notice. I wanted to go eat at a local place but she says she eats chicken everyday. Another warning. Landed at villar Hnos. Bad vibes there too. Moral of the story paid 700 pesos for the meal, rarely spoke during meal and then gave her money to get straight back to where she belonged. Bad judgment on my part. I do not like prima donnas.

The evening turned out to be much better. A woman I knew a year back, a 21 year old from Bonao, who lives in Higuey now, came to SD for the night. A beer in the room and the much anticipated exercise. Was hungry by 8 PM and went looking for a place recommended by BoricuaOL but it was closed. Wound up at the open air place at Villar – a great fish in garlic sauce plus rice. The woman asked for only a sancocho, speaking of attitudes. We walked back as she ate an icecream from Bon, and I sipping my coffee. Ah, the previous woman did not find the pork chops she had ordered to her liking so I asked her to pack it and take home – she dithered. I got it packed and after I walked back to parque independencia, gave it to a little boy panhandling.

Friday, the woman left for Bonao at 10 ish after one lst round. Enjoyed the 4 exercises. The great thing about this is, she is texting and I take my dick close to her mouth, she does not miss the hint. And drops the phone and gets busy.

I too packed and called car rental from Nelly to come and pick me up. Idiotic newbie, took for ever to rent a car and finally left SD at 2. Terrible weekend traffic at that hour and rain as I head towards Bonao. Get off highway at Piedra Blanca, on to Cotui and finally Pimentel – night stay there. The 20 year old, a 40 DD was waiting. Same story. Speak normally and every now and then nudge her head to the required destination and she keeps you warm.

Beautiful drive from Piedra blanca to Cotui – the mountainous part and later the green rice fields from Cotui. Sleeping at a cabana in Pimentel 850 pesos – Las terrenas next.

Question: Do the women here use toothbrush and toothpaste? Kissing and vigorous too can be a little unpleasant if not accompanied by food / drink.

[BoricuaOnline]

I'm back now but I also noticed a lot of police cars sometimes three or more alond Malecon at once and a couple on independencia. Be cautious if hiring a car, and even walking on quiet streets. Also ask reception at asis for a spare key so you can leave the ac on 24/7 as they take ages to cool down the room.Asis rooms I think all have the same mini split units, if you get a large room or if you get a room at the upper level you will have problem cooling down your room. The room I got is a freezer, if I come back here I am going to request this room.

Yesterday night there were more girls in both malecon and Independencia. There were a couple of cuties in Sheraton parking, one asked for 2000 pesos short term.

Yesterday night I went to a barrio, Simon Bolivar were mi flaquita made me dinner. I should no be surprised but I really was when we got to her house by a small alley between two houses, then climbing upstairs with no railings. The house has a fridge almost empty, just juice, water and eggs, the washer is next to her mom's bed. They use a ladder, a weak one that has a metal wire to secure it to the floor to get to the house roof to dry their clothes, very unsafe and dangerous. As I am writing this I am wondering, where the bathroom was? I left before midnight because as she warned me, it is not safe for me.

[Tempoecorto]

Yesterday night I went to a barrio, Simon Bolivar were mi flaquita made me dinner. I should no be surprised but I really was when we got to her house by a small alley between two houses, then climbing upstairs with no railings. The house has a fridge almost empty, just juice, water and eggs, the washer is next to her mom's bed. They use a ladder, a weak one that has a metal wire to secure it to the floor to get to the house roof to dry their clothes, very unsafe and dangerous. As I am writing this I am wondering, where the bathroom was? I left before midnight because as she warned me, it is not safe for me.Have not had such genuine experience so far. Went to a girl's house (dad / mom /12 year old sister / even abuelo) living together. In Montecristi, a couple of years back. Mom wanted to make dinner, ended up inviting all to a seaside restaurant. Yours sound more interesting.

[Mr Gogo]

SD is a monger killer as I found out on my first two trips. Luckily two vets who no longer post on this board (Jao and Bq) took me under their wing and showed me all the secrets of la capital. SD and Cuba are running neck to neck as my future retirement home.

Once SD is opened to you then you will understand what few who have the patience now know. SD is not a quick hit, most likely it will get you if you are rushed. It has every amenity that big American cities have.

With the outter towns to draw from, you have an endless supply of fine ladies to draw from. But you better have your game tight when hunting in SD otherwise you will be headed to the airport crying for Sosua.

[Mr Enternational]

I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.Why are you bringing Filipinas into the debate? Your question was Santo Domingo or Sosua. I think it is safe to say that most guys who frequent DR have never been to Asia, so you could just have well said that Martians have the best GFE and they would have been none the wiser. From reading many of the posts I would even say it is safe to say that they have been hardly anywhere except DR. Since you brought it up though, just for comparison's sake I would say Santo Domingo rates more with Manila (tons of people, traffic, P4P is more expensive and spread out; you will need to use taxis or have your own transportation). Angeles City is more along the lines of Sosua. Most bars are on or off Fields in AC and in Sosua the few that they have are mostly on Pedro Clisante. Every place that you need to go is a short walk away. 9 times out of 10, any chick that you see walking around in those areas are going to be available for you to take to your room because those are P4P centers.

But to your main question, I don't know many guys who would choose Santo Domingo over Sosua if their primary purpose is for mongering. Of the guys who would, you can best believe 99% of them speak Spanish. The 1% that does not speak Spanish has probably never been to Sosua before and is afraid to branch out. From my experience, if you are a guy who can speak Spanish then there is no need to monger. You can pick up regular chicks with ease, so it probably would not matter where you went. However, if you were into picking up regular chicks it would make more sense to do that in Santo Domingo because it is so large. Every other city is the DR is so small and the hangouts are so minimal, that if you wanted to have more than one regular chick then it is not a question of if you would get caught, but when. I am a history/culture kind of guy, but as many times that I have been to Santo Domingo I have never taken in one touristic site.

When the word vacation comes to mind what do you think of? I would say that most do not think of a big city environment with the sound of car horns from 7 am until the night time. Most probably think of a relaxed beach environment which Sosua offers. An environment where you don't need a car because everything is within walking distance. For those Santo Domingo guys who want a beach then Boca Chica and Juan Dolio are a close drive away, with Boca Chica having many cheaper P4P GFE options if need be.

As for me, my first two trips to DR were to Boca Chica without a car. On the first trip I did have a girl with a car who took me around Santo Domingo. For most of the chicks I would meet online they would always say Boca Chica was too far for them to go after being at work all day. After the first two trips I started to fly into Puerto Plata and frequent Sosua. I started renting cars there because the taxi wanted $20 from the airport and $15 to the airport for the 10 minute ride. Hell it was only about $23/day to rent a car and I could go where the hell I wanted. So that was a no brainer for me. My third time on the south coast and hanging in Boca Chica, I took 2 gua guas into Santo Domingo and then the Caribe Tours bus 5 hours to Sosua. I vowed to never do that again, and have been renting cars ever since.

Since it was still the same story from the online chicks that Boca Chica was too far, I finally bit the bullet and decided to get to know Santo Domingo. A guy from the board named Jaosousa was kind enough to meet up with me and drive me around and show me the ropes in Santo Domingo. After that, I started hanging with MrGogo who showed me more ropes. With the help of those two guys along with google maps on gps these days, and countless non-pro options, I am comfortable hanging out in Santo Domingo and using it for a base in the south instead of staying in Boca Chica. When I am up north I may fall through Sosua anywhere from a few minutes to see what is going on up to two days max.

[BoricuaOnline]

Question: Do the women here use toothbrush and toothpaste? Kissing and vigorous too can be a little unpleasant if not accompanied by food / drink.LOL, I was thinking the same minutes ago, my inference is most do not, there are more important things to spend money as for example internet, cellphones and hair. The lady I am dating has the same problem, but food and mentos, she loves mint, has helped.

My advice while waiting for a chica, be a little more patient and find something to do while waiting for her: drink a couple of beers at the nearby bar, watch divertido con jochy on tv. They almost never arrive on time, they are spending time getting ready for you. Remember they spend some time shaving their pussies as some of them have not had sex in the last ten hours, maybe more.

[Talion]

Why are you bringing Filipinas into the debate? Your question was Santo Domingo or Sosua. I think it is safe to say that most guys who frequent DR have never been to Asia, so you could just have well said that Martians have the best GFE and they would have been none the wiser. From reading many of the posts I would even say it is safe to say that they have been hardly anywhere except DR. Since you brought it up though, just for comparison's sake I would say Santo Domingo rates more with Manila (tons of people, traffic, P4P is more expensive and spread out; you will need to use taxis or have your own transportation). Angeles City is more along the lines of Sosua. Most bars are on or off Fields in AC and in Sosua the few that they have are mostly on Pedro Clisante. Every place that you need to go is a short walk away. 9 times out of 10, any chick that you see walking around in those areas are going to be available for you to take to your room because those are P4P centers.

But to your main question, I don't know many guys who would choose Santo Domingo over Sosua if their primary purpose is for mongering...Thanks for yours and Mr. Gogo's response. I appreciate you taking the time to provide a thoughtful response to my question. I didn't mention the Filipinas or the Cubanas to enter into a "debate". Cebate wasn't the purpose of my question, and they only arose to create contrast and to better frame the question. To put it more clearly if I just wanted to bang chicks I would go to Asia, where the overwhelming variety and ease is the attraction. If I want to go for the pickup of the non-pro and the sweetness of the girls my experience so far is that Cuba offers the best in this area. If I was a unilingual English speaker and wanted something relatively compact and with easy flights I might choose San Jose. Point and shoot I'd go to Sosua. For food, history and daytime activities I'd go to Lima, and so on and so forth. These are of course my perceptions and anyone should feel free to differ. I don't mind, everyone is entitled to their perception and their opinion.

In the vein of what I described above I was kind of hoping to identify what people who love Santo Domingo might define as its greatest value proposition. Something that makes it unique and interesting, or in some way different from other venues. My spanish is essentially fluent for casual, non-technical conversation and I have no problems navigating day to day conversations anywhere, although slang and cultural references must of course be learned in each location, but my point is that meeting and speaking to people isn't an issue. As for my tastes and views of vacation sometimes I enjoy the non-pro chase and sometimes I want someone I can meet and get rid of relatively quickly.

So, from your post I gather that the biggest advantage is the scope of Santo Domingo and the variety it offers in terms of the non-pro experience. Is the ease of flight the difference between going to Santo Domingo, and say going to Lima, Medellin, Rio or some such, where larger scale is available too? I'm not trying to put words in your mouths, so please jump in and correct anything I might be guessing at. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what draws you guys there.

[Mr Enternational]

LOL, I was thinking the same minutes ago, my inference is most do not, there are more important things to spend money as for example internet, cellphones and hair. The lady I am dating has the same problem, but food and mentos, she loves mint, has helped.Are you guys fucking serious? Come to think of it I don't think I have ever seen a Dominican woman with toothbrush in hand. I'm trying to think though about the banos in some of my gf's houses. Were there any toothbrushes there besides my own?


My advice while waiting for a chica, be a little more patient and find something to do while waiting for her:Remember they spend some time shaving their pussies as some of them have not had sex in the last ten hours, maybe more.WTF?

[Mr Enternational]

The 21 year old (mentioned in the previous post) supposed to show up at 10 did not show up. To make matters worse, she does not even have a phone so I left a message at the website she uses once a while, to say goodbye and that I waited 40 minutes. Then at 12.15, I see her Badoo message flashing on phone. She is there at Parque independencia but had gotten delayed with the babysitting. I told her "sorry".I guess she will know next time.

What is the deal with Badoo? I have had the account for years but just started using it in the last couple of months when BoricuaOL brought it up. Since then, I have met in person a couple of Dominicans off of it, and a Russian chick in Sosua. In the last few days I have also met a couple of chicks here in Thailand who hit me up. A couple of weeks ago though it was telling me that my credits were up or I couldn't send anymore emails or something like that. It was saying that I had to invite my friends to try it or pay. Which option have you guys been using, if any besides the totally free one?

[Knowledge]

GBP and places it like cost 1,000 pesos for one girl and 1,500 pesos for two girls. Sosua does not cost less than that. You can pay 3,000 or more in the capital. But it's not necessary. The capital is a city. One of many many things you can do there that you can't do in Sosua is go to the cinema. There are also museums, a university, different kinds of restaurants, the National Theater, supermarkets and corporate headquarters. I am going to stop now because if I go on I will get sarcastic.


I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for yours and Mr. Gogo's response. I appreciate you taking the time to provide a thoughtful response to my question. I didn't mention the Filipinas or the Cubanas to enter into a "debate". Cebate wasn't the purpose of my question, and they only arose to create contrast and to better frame the question. To put it more clearly if I just wanted to bang chicks I would go to Asia, where the overwhelming variety and ease is the attraction. If I want to go for the pickup of the non-pro and the sweetness of the girls my experience so far is that Cuba offers the best in this area. If I was a unilingual English speaker and wanted something relatively compact and with easy flights I might choose San Jose. Point and shoot I'd go to Sosua. For food, history and daytime activities I'd go to Lima, and so on and so forth. These are of course my perceptions and anyone should feel free to differ. I don't mind, everyone is entitled to their perception and their opinion.You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.


In the vein of what I described above I was kind of hoping to identify what people who love Santo Domingo might define as its greatest value proposition. Something that makes it unique and interesting, or in some way different from other venues. My spanish is essentially fluent for casual, non-technical conversation and I have no problems navigating day to day conversations anywhere, although slang and cultural references must of course be learned in each location, but my point is that meeting and speaking to people isn't an issue. As for my tastes and views of vacation sometimes I enjoy the non-pro chase and sometimes I want someone I can meet and get rid of relatively quickly.

So, from your post I gather that the biggest advantage is the scope of Santo Domingo and the variety it offers in terms of the non-pro experience. Is the ease of flight the difference between going to Santo Domingo, and say going to Lima, Medellin, Rio or some such, where larger scale is available too? I'm not trying to put words in your mouths, so please jump in and correct anything I might be guessing at. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what draws you guys there.Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down the street in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.

[Revere]

I agree with Mr. E and Gogo about going to Santo Domingo. E said rent a car you have too and Gogo said you have to have some game and speak some Spainish. I do not talk a lot any more as I do not want to fight with anyone just want to be helpful, but it never seems to work. Not sure if this is my last post, but here are my thoughts. First, the problem with people coming to Santo Domingo is they have a terrible plan, which results in failure and disappointment a lot of times. To think you will come to Santo Domingo, hire a driver to take you around you limit yourself because that cost can get expensive. Also, you do not know what will be good or not and sometimes you need trial and error. So, what happens is you just hang around the capital area hoping to pull a hot chick or you go to the strip clubs and overpay. Not a good plan. As Gogo said, you need to learn Spanish and move around and as Mr. E said rent a car to keep costs low. I wrote a piece a while back on driving around and I very rarely get stopped. Also, Santo Domingo is huge area there are so many places to go, but the problem is people come to the capital have a driver take them to what they know and that is it. If that is the plan, it is better for you to go to Sousa. There is nightlife all over the city where you can me hot chicks just being cool and presentable, but that is all on you. Santo Domingo is not for everyone.

Now let me say one more thing about the police. People have said it on this board. Be careful and some people have not really taken their concern seriously. Their is a great series people should watch called the "Wire" it is about the drug game in Baltimore and all the corruption and crime that comes with it.

In one episode, this guy has his name as the owner of the drug bosses strip club, but he gets mad that he feels he can make more money and decides to start selling drugs. Long story short, he gets caught by undercover police and is taken to jail. Now, the corrupt lawyer who works for the drug boss tells the guy you need to sign the backdated ownership over of the club now as he sits in jail because strip club owners cannot have criminal records. The guy say's no he will not sign he say's what do I get for signing and the lawyer looks at him and say's you want me to tell the drug boss you will not sign over ownership of the club as you sit here in jail. He quickly realizes he better sign now or he will be killed in jail. He signs. As the lawyer leaves he says a great line "you wanted to be in the game now you're in the game". The point I making here never play cops for fools. Who is the say they do not wait until you leave your hotel and walk down the street and decide to search you and say we just found this package of cocaine on you. Now you will argue not mine and they will say yes it is and take you to jail. Now you will get to jail and they will give you one chance to pay them some huge amount and you will refuse because you will stick to your morals and are cheap and think you can get out of it. What you do not know is once you are arrested you do not have to see a judge for 90 days, but you argue and say you want to call the embassy and they say okay maybe a couple days later you are allowed to make a phone call. Embassy tells you sorry for your problem we can give you a couple of Lawyers to talk too. Now the lawyer tells you he can get you out just needs a big down payment of course less than the cops are offering. You agree. Now you get to court for the first time, and low and behold the prostitute who you did not pay in the hotel room is there and she says to the judge you did not pay for her services and you also have a drug charge against you. Now tell me who is the judge going to believe you or the police and you do not speak Spanish. The judge orders you back to jail for another 90 days. Player you do not know the game do not try to play it and fight with the police you will lose badly. I know I seen people in jail who thought they knew the game. People on the board keep warning you but you're not listening. Player trust me it will end badly for you Punta Cana police are tourist friendly other places are not.

[Tempoecorto]

What is the deal with Badoo? I have used that since 2011 (paid). I do not use that any longer I. E. , use the free service and then convert to whatsapp etc. The Pimentel girl was like that. I got to know her on Monday from home and Friday, I was in the cabana with her. Of course, I also had a similar situation in SD, that turned out to be a no show. But then she contacted me again. Go figure.

[Tempoecorto]

Are you guys fucking serious? Come to think of it I don't think I have ever seen a Dominican woman with toothbrush in hand. ?

WTF?Well, one reason why I like to choose women not off the streets in Sosua is that I like to kiss and women if they feel the closeness kiss with abandon. However until this trip, I have not had this sensation. The woman who came to stay the night in SD on Thursday had many things in her bag. Clothes and shoes but no toothbrush and so I noticed that. It again happened with the Pimentel women so suddenly, I am like. WTF. I also remember a girl who stayed the night in Santiago and she specifically picked a brush as we went to Supermercado central for dinner.

By the way, suddenly the SD thread is showing signs of life. What gives?

[SavePros321]

What is the deal with Badoo? I have had the account for years but just started using it in the last couple of months when BoricuaOL brought it up. Since then, I have met in person a couple of Dominicans off of it, and a Russian chick in Sosua. In the last few days I have also met a couple of chicks here in Thailand who hit me up. A couple of weeks ago though it was telling me that my credits were up or I couldn't send anymore emails or something like that. It was saying that I had to invite my friends to try it or pay. Which option have you guys been using, if any besides the totally free one?Don't know how it works from outside the US, but Badoo is a ripoff site. The reason they want you to "invite your friends" (for credits) is so they can collect the email addresses and sell the information.

They only allow you to contact so many people in one day. If you hit that limit, you have to buy credits in order to break that rule. It's the same thing even if you pay money. I once did the one month for the "Super Powers" package and they still limited the amount of people I could contact in one day and told me I would have to buy credits if I wanted to exceed the daily limit. On top of that, those fuckers tried charging my card (recurring charge) for another month even though I cancelled the subscription beforehand via Paypal. Hell, Paypal couldn't even get ahold of them to ask why they charged me for another month, so Paypal refunded the money to my card and dealt with them from their end.

FYI: if there is an option to pay for one of these foreign dating sites like DC or Badoo using Paypal, ALWAYS use the Paypal option because they will get your money back for you if you every have any problems with the website subscription. Most of these sites will automatically have your shit on a recurring monthly charge unless you contact them to cancel it. But if you do it via Paypal, you can just log into your Paypal account and cancel the subscription from there. That way if the website tries to dispute you doing so, Paypal will have a record of you doing so on their end.

[Mr Enternational]

SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.

[OldKool]

You make good points about poor planning. You can not go to SD unprepared. Where you stay where you go all determines how much fun you have.

Mr E practically lives in the DR so car is not an option it is a requirement. I have rented a car in SD and will not do it again. The traffic in SD is insane and because often we do not know how get anywhere makes it even more dangerous, I Use cabs often the same driver. Being worried how to find locations is stressful. Speaking Spanish in SD is not an option it is a requirement. The locals speak zero English. Having a fender bender in the DR could turn into a nitemare very fast. I do not think it is worth the risk. SD is a crap shoot sometimes. I do not enjoy brothels although GBP looks like great deal. I keep some nice working girls numbers for back up. It cost way to much money to be striking out so sure things can save the day.

[SavePros321]

SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.I'm not sure if it has changed recently or not, but the 3 month, 6 month, or 12 months memberships do not auto-renew. At least they did not in the past.

[Revere]

You make good points about poor planning. You can not go to SD unprepared. Where you stay where you go all determines how much fun you have.

Mr E practically lives in the DR so car is not an option it is a requirement. I have rented a car in SD and will not do it again. The traffic in SD is insane and because often we do not know how get anywhere makes it even more dangerous, I Use cabs often the same driver. Being worried how to find locations is stressful. Speaking Spanish in SD is not an option it is a requirement. The locals speak zero English. Having a fender bender in the DR could turn into a nitemare very fast. I do not think it is worth the risk. SD is a crap shoot sometimes. I do not enjoy brothels although GBP looks like great deal. I keep some nice working girls numbers for back up. It cost way to much money to be striking out so sure things can save the day.Old kool always respected your game. You having a driver is different as you have hot chicks coming to see you and you always have a good plan. You are always respectful to women and treat them well more people should learn that approach that is why the women you hang with love you and always are happy to see you and never screw you over. Now that is real game. People have to understand some people do not have bad stories. there is a reason they are smart and choose women wisely. Not to say it cannot happen but a lot can go wrong picking up a sw late at night. I just want people to have fun and be safe and not make stupid mistakes or have confrontations for no reason - not worth it.

[Talion]

You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.Thanks again, and you make a valid point about comparisons relativ to your knowledge base of places, but again that wasn't why I mentioned the others, which I did once again to frame the question. It would appear that the value proposition you describe is a variety of chicas open to the experience of casual meetings with foreigners and still in a big city environment. That's a good thing, and I understand that. Thanks again for the thoughtful response.

My world view changes with each new place I visit, but I can still examine each individual place based on its own merits. Every place has its own advantages and disadvantages, as well as it's own flavour. You don't have to have been to a lot of different places to appreciate the one you're in. Travelling widely brings a different perspective, but doesn't diminish your stop in any particular city. I appreciate your feedback and your viewpoint, so thanks.

Now, completely outside out the question, and as an actual comparison this time, your last statement about not having women jump into a strange car and just go with you in any place other than th DR is incorrect, as Cubanas will also go with you at the drop of a hat if they're so inclined. It makes Cuba a wonderful place to visit as well.

I look forward to my visit to Santo Domingo, and if you're around I'd be happy to meet up and buy you (and anyone else around) a beer or two to say thanks.

Cheers!

[Wrx2005]

Don't know how it works from outside the US, but Badoo is a ripoff site. The reason they want you to "invite your friends" (for credits) is so they can collect the email addresses and sell the information.

They only allow you to contact so many people in one day. If you hit that limit, you have to buy credits in order to break that rule. It's the same thing even if you pay money. I once did the one month for the "Super Powers" package and they still limited the amount of people I could contact in one day and told me I would have to buy credits if I wanted to exceed the daily limit. On top of that, those fuckers tried charging my card (recurring charge) for another month even though I cancelled the subscription beforehand via Paypal. Hell, Paypal couldn't even get ahold of them to ask why they charged me for another month, so Paypal refunded the money to my card and dealt with them from their end.

FYI: if there is an option to pay for one of these foreign dating sites like DC or Badoo using Paypal, ALWAYS use the Paypal option because they will get your money back for you if you every have any problems with the website subscription. Most of these sites will automatically have your shit on a recurring monthly charge unless you contact them to cancel it. But if you do it via Paypal, you can just log into your Paypal account and cancel the subscription from there. That way if the website tries to dispute you doing so, Paypal will have a record of you doing so on their end.


SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.For bringing this up. I forgot about the warning from Dom Cupid that I needed to contact the website to make sure the recurring charge doesn't take place. I just checked my DC account. That sub terminates 8/20. I would have been pissed at myself for missing the recurring charge date. In the DR, pussy all around me, and paying for a sub I don't currently need.

[Wrx2005]

I'm not sure if it has changed recently or not, but the 3 month, 6 month, or 12 months memberships do not auto-renew. At least they did not in the past.It has changed recently. I currently have a 3 month sub with DC. Auto renew is now set automatically. You have to go into your account and change the billing. I just did mine. When I'm ready for another sub, I will get it when its most advantageous for me

My next preference is to sign up when I am already in country or soon to be. That way if she is real cute I can set up a meeting quickly. The guy right there in country trumps the guy talking to the same chica for weeks or months before he can get anywhere near the juice.

[Knowledge]

You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.


For bringing this up. I forgot about the warning from Dom Cupid that I needed to contact the website to make sure the recurring charge doesn't take place. I just checked my DC account. That sub terminates 8/20. I would have been pissed at myself for missing the recurring charge date. In the DR, pussy all around me, and paying for a sub I don't currently need.

[Wrx2005]

You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.You are absolutely correct in my regard. I do not need a dating service / website. However, I use and enjoy dating services / websites. I like the convenience of them. I don't think anybody here said they needed them, or that they haven't already had a friend to have a girl introduce other girls? I've done that many times. Them for me, and me for them. Dating websites / services exposes one to a lot more choices and places to visit than simply relying on a friends girl. Why limit myself to relying on a friends girl, when I can use any and all options that gets the job done?

[ElTremendo]

As for daytime action here are some options.

Slip on me (needs previous reservation) but operates during the day.

Gbp opens at 3:00.

Call service pm me but will cost 5000.

There is a place in Nunez de Caceres almost Kennedy second floor similar to gbp.

If you are really freaky and nasty SW's on malecon on the way to the motels usually around Reina motel cheap but not very good looking.

[OldKool]

Internet sites are great if you have the time. I have been seeing my SAme DC cupid girls for over 3 years. They are my sure things. Once the sport fucking is out of my system it is nice to have GFE and great good morning sex. SD is a crap shoot because I do not do casas. I have had some excellent times with SD SWs. I have the numbers of a few who provided good service. My challenge is deciding which girls on the roster to pull the trigger. I not a full time novio so my chicas need to understand that, The site lets you meet and vet girls for your trip. Most are not hardcore girls but it is good to be able to break the ice before you meet. I really enjoy this hobby and spend time to make the trips great.


You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.

[GrownMan1]

SD is a monger killer as I found out on my first two trips. Luckily two vets who no longer post on this board (Jao and Bq) took me under their wing and showed me all the secrets of la capital. SD and Cuba are running neck to neck as my future retirement home.

Once SD is opened to you then you will understand what few who have the patience now know. SD is not a quick hit, most likely it will get you if you are rushed. It has every amenity that big American cities have.

With the outter towns to draw from, you have an endless supply of fine ladies to draw from. But you better have your game tight when hunting in SD otherwise you will be headed to the airport crying for Sosua.Wow Mr Gogo I thought you switched over to the West. And you caught up with Bq. That brother is always moving I am still waiting for my returned call LOL. I agree -you can't go to SD thinking its like Sosua. My boys learned the hard way. There are not many dimes SW in SD. They are either in the "strip clubs" or gone to Sosua away from home. You must have a game plan in SD. I say the place is great for importing chicas you met from other area of the DR. OLSKOOL said it first! There are many chicas available but if you have been use to pointing and clicking you better have a change up style in SD.

[BoricuaOnline]

As for daytime action here are some options.



There is a place in Nunez de Caceres almost Kennedy second floor similar to gbp.

.Pink Pony, 1,500 and 2000, I chat once on Badoo with a girl that works there, she was very cute.

[Knowledge]

You can get it for less when there are more girls than mongers, especially daytime and weekdays - 1,000 to 1,500.


Pink Pony, 1,500 and 2000, I chat once on Badoo with a girl that works there, she was very cute.

[Mfins]

In my opinion Sosua is a dump. Although everyone has there own taste in woman my two times there I did not see one that rated above a 5. The main strip with the bars is like a freak show. SD is much better, more resteraunts more clubs more options. Its more spread out but that's half the fun trekking it from club to club. Its classier in SD and the GFE in Sosua is non existent. The whole town can be done in about 10 minutes. I think the SD experience is more interesting and a much better time will be had for maybe a few dollars more.

ON a side note has anyone been to Jarabacoba in the mountains. They have a white water rafting trip I wanted to try. I'm told its 2 hours by car from the city.

Thanks.

[OldKool]

I am five weeks from being in SD. Booked my flight 3 days in SD and 2 days in Sosua. I am very excited. The hard part is weeding out potential bed mates. I have old novia and other chicas I maintain contact with. As well as some SWs who performed well. Doing Thursday and Friday in SD. The clubs and discos are hopping. Sosua every night is Friday night.

[Nhyx69]

Hi!

I will be in Santo Domingo in September, and I'm looking for a good guest friendly hotel close to Colonial area and Malecon. Can you tell me a good place? (max 150 $ / night). I will have my car, so no problem for transport .

Last time I was in Santo Domingo, I tried Sliponme massage, it was a great experience, do you kno if there new good girl in this place?

[OldKool]

La.

Palacio is just under 100 a night. It is girl friendly right in the heart of th colonial zone everything you need is a short walk. They have great breakfast buffet that made me get out of bed. Has small pool and gym. I have many fond memories of the place.


Hi!

I will be in Santo Domingo in September, and I'm looking for a good guest friendly hotel close to Colonial area and Malecon. Can you tell me a good place? (max 150 $ / night). I will have my car, so no problem for transport .

Last time I was in Santo Domingo, I tried Sliponme massage, it was a great experience, do you kno if there new good girl in this place?

[Nhyx69]

Thanks you, I'll find it in Internet, it looks good!


La.

Palacio is just under 100 a night. It is girl friendly right in the heart of th colonial zone everything you need is a short walk. They have great breakfast buffet that made me get out of bed. Has small pool and gym. I have many fond memories of the place.

[JJ341]

The Palacio is just what you're looking for. I stayed there last week and everything was great although the Conde is not what it used to be for chicas. The Palacio sometimes has a special rate on Expedia. Check that out to save some money.


Thanks you, I'll find it in Internet, it looks good!.

[Turgid]

You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down the street in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.The Dominican Republic is very low on my scale of mongering destinations. Much of what I will say though is a matter of personal taste. I find in terms of looks the chicas are less beautiful than those in most other Latin American destinations. I find the service level of those chicas the worst in Latin America. I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Santo Domingo is hot, with terrible traffic and very difficult to navigate. The taxis are a ripoff and not as available as taxis should be. And I could go on and on. The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama. A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.

[Frannie]

I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Having lived in Sosua for a couple of years, I really cannot agree that Sosua is a dump. Compared to what? Miami, New York? Sosua is a pleasant little town with nice beaches, access to adequate medical services and schools, supermarkets, numerous restaurants, close to an international airport, and a number of nice residential places to live some of which have pleasant breezes in the summertime and a mild climate in the winter, meaning that indoor heating is virtually never necessary. Real estate prices are very reasonable, for example for $1000 per month you can rent a very nice apartment that would cost $2000 or $3000 for an equivalent in Florida or New York, and there is wireless Internet access that has recently been much improved, plus cable TV with 200 channels for a very modest sum.

You can also find an unlimited supply of young attractive women to have sex with for a very modest fee. Of course if you are not sexually attracted to women of color, then this would not apply.

[Turgid]

Having lived in Sosua for a couple of years, I really cannot agree that Sosua is a dump. Compared to what? Miami, New York? Sosua is a pleasant little town with nice beaches, access to adequate medical services and schools, supermarkets, numerous restaurants, close to an international airport, and a number of nice residential places to live some of which have pleasant breezes in the summertime and a mild climate in the winter, meaning that indoor heating is virtually never necessary. Real estate prices are very reasonable, for example for $1000 per month you can rent a very nice apartment that would cost $2000 or $3000 for an equivalent in Florida or New York, and there is wireless Internet access that has recently been much improved, plus cable TV with 200 channels for a very modest sum.

You can also find an unlimited supply of young attractive women to have sex with for a very modest fee. Of course if you are not sexually attracted to women of color, then this would not apply.I do like women of color but the women who provide p4 p in Sosua are not a representative sample of women of color. I believe that if you are not good looking you should at least provide good service which I found to be lacking in Sosua barring the Haitians who seem to be not as available as before. Sosua fares very low in comparison to similar mongering destinations. The beach and seaside activities around Sosua are quite pleasant though.

[Frannie]

Having lived in Sosua for a couple of years, I really cannot agree that Sosua is a dump. Compared to what? Miami, New York? Sosua is a pleasant little town with nice beaches, access to adequate medical services and schools, supermarkets, numerous restaurants, close to an international airport, and a number of nice residential places to live some of which have pleasant breezes in the summertime and a mild climate in the winter, meaning that indoor heating is virtually never necessary. Real estate prices are very reasonable, for example for $1000 per month you can rent a very nice apartment that would cost $2000 or $3000 for an equivalent in Florida or New York, and there is wireless Internet access that has recently been much improved, plus cable TV with 200 channels for a very modest sum.

You can also find an unlimited supply of young attractive women to have sex with for a very modest fee. Of course if you are not sexually attracted to women of color, then this would not apply.OK, but what beach resorts in the region have similar amenities and cost of living and yet make Sosua look like a "dump" by comparison? Just curious. And have large number of FREELANCE chicas roaming around? Not as many places as you might think. OK, the standard of paid sex may not be so good these days in Sosua. I don't do much mongering these days, and maybe I am just lucky when I do, but I think one can still find attractive girls with good personalities, and if they are not experts in sex, then you just have to teach them. I can think of worse ways to pass the time.

[Turgid]

OK, but what beach resorts in the region have similar amenities and cost of living and yet make Sosua look like a "dump" by comparison? Just curious. And have large number of FREELANCE chicas roaming around? Not as many places as you might think. OK, the standard of paid sex may not be so good these days in Sosua. I don't do much mongering these days, and maybe I am just lucky when I do, but I think one can still find attractive girls with good personalities, and if they are not experts in sex, then you just have to teach them. I can think of worse ways to pass the time.I used the word 'dump' a little loosely. I mean a mongering dump. For me the beach is the only thing that makes Sosua a viable destination. I have had this discussion before on the Sosua board and it may just be that I am extremely unlucky with DR chicas, I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service. In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.

[Nixonbd]

The Dominican Republic is very low on my scale of mongering destinations. Much of what I will say though is a matter of personal taste. I find in terms of looks the chicas are less beautiful than those in most other Latin American destinations. I find the service level of those chicas the worst in Latin America. I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Santo Domingo is hot, with terrible traffic and very difficult to navigate. The taxis are a ripoff and not as available as taxis should be. And I could go on and on. The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama. A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.Have to agree with you in just about every sense. Although, I did get hooked up with a semi-pro who I would hook up with as long as I wanted her to stay. In that situation, it was a prime destination. When she called a cab, it was 1/3 what I would have to pay. Overall, having been to Costa Rica, Colombia and Panama, the DR women are a bit rougher and definitely darker.

[GrownMan1]

The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama.

A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.First, I respect your opinion, however you are throwing stones or lip without support. Take it; I am trying to feel you- but you mention "a two week and more. Many other Latin American cites will cost much less" yet you give no examples. If you are not one of those "Lazy mongers" please enlighten us more. Or maybe Nixonbd can help since he agrees in just about every sense. Except for the 1 chica that made him change the DR to a prime destination. You have my attention Sir.

[OldKool]

I have spent time in SD it offers a wide range of accommodation s. I have seen $30 a night. I prefer women of color so the DR is my honey pot. I also love dancing and music which is popular with Dr women. As far cost I think Sd is very affordable. I fly in for $400 and spend 100 $ a day for everything else. I fuck and eat like a mad man.

If you can show respect your opinion, however you are throwing stones or lip without support. Take it; I am trying to feel you- but you mention "a two week and more. Many other Latin American cites will cost much less" yet you give no examples. If you are not one of those "Lazy mongers" please enlighten.

[Knowledge]

I don't think you enjoy urban environments.


The Dominican Republic is very low on my scale of mongering destinations. Much of what I will say though is a matter of personal taste. I find in terms of looks the chicas are less beautiful than those in most other Latin American destinations. I find the service level of those chicas the worst in Latin America. I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Santo Domingo is hot, with terrible traffic and very difficult to navigate. The taxis are a ripoff and not as available as taxis should be. And I could go on and on. The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama. A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.

[Frannie]

I used the word 'dump' a little loosely. I mean a mongering dump. For me the beach is the only thing that makes Sosua a viable destination. I have had this discussion before on the Sosua board and it may just be that I am extremely unlucky with DR chicas, I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service. In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.Can you suggest a few small towns in the region where there are large numbers of young freelance women looking to meet foreigners?

[MRwell]

I used the word 'dump' a little loosely. I mean a unluckyng dump. For me the beach is the only thing that makes Sosua a viable destination. I have had this discussion before on the Sosua board and it may just be that I am extremely unlucky with DR chicas, I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service. In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.Another man's trash is another man's treasure. Its not that you have been unlucky maybe you need to work on your skills. When you have been in this game for a while you can start to pick up on which ones will provide good service or not. You sound like an amateur to me. I don't know I'm just saying. We all have had bad sessions but after a while when you become seasoned it happens less. Thats because you learn how to pick them! Read the signs man don't point the finger.

[GrownMan1]

I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service.

(You save your game for the non pros? You feel your money is enough and no skills should be required. Shame on you! And you call some of us lazy! Ok your style to skin your cat- I respect that. To me - the non pros are not the ones seriously gaming on you- the semi and pros are more likely to run game.)

In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.I don't know much about other Latin America regions but far as the DR- I agree with you. However, I ever heard anyone made the assertion that Sosua had the better looking chicas. (I have heard and agree Santiago hands down!) Specially when most of the chicas in Sosua come from SD. Sosua has the most freelance Dominican and Haitian semi and pro puta per square mile for p4p in the DR. That just my opinion. Mr. E, Camaro, Manny1, Mr Gogo, Turgid or anyone else who travel to other area in Latin America frequently; please share with the board an area within a 3 to 8 hour (2 and a half for me) plane ride that pound for pound competes with the DR.

[Turgid]

I have spent time in SD it offers a wide range of accommodation s. I have seen $30 a night. I prefer women of color so the DR is my honey pot. I also love dancing and music which is popular with Dr women. As far cost I think Sd is very affordable. I fly in for $400 and spend 100 $ a day for everything else. I fuck and eat like a mad man.

If you can show respect your opinion, however you are throwing stones or lip without support. Take it; I am trying to feel you- but you mention "a two week and more. Many other Latin American cites will cost much less" yet you give no examples. If you are not one of those "Lazy mongers" please enlighten.First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective and for me the women of the destinations I will give are hotter than DR women. Perfect example is Medellin from which I have just returned. The $50 per day hotel in which I stayed (Estadio Real) will cost more than twice that for the equivalent in SDQ. I would rate the women of New Life casa (I paid US $20 per half hour. I did 1/2 hr sessions there) as hot as the women of Casa Teresa (US $100 per hr- no option for 1/2 hr here). Food is cheaper in MDE, Taxis are everywhere, metered and cheap, you do not have to wait as long as 5 minutes for a taxi here). Only the airfare is more expensive. Having been to both destinations it costs me cheaper to go to Medellin than SDQ for a 2 week plus trip. SDQ has no equivalent to the chicas of Energy and Abydos, not to speak of the MDE escorts and the clubs. San Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala to me have hotter chicas giving better service and is cheaper for me. I usually go to Venezuela when I'm in Trinidad for work and get cheap flights there. I have been to Argentina for many three week trips and have spent less overall than I would to DR, not to mention my many trips to Tijuana since the 70's.

[Turgid]

Can you suggest a few small towns in the region where there are large numbers of young freelance women looking to meet foreigners?What's the advantage of small towns? They do nothing for me. I actually prefer the anonymity of cities. Its not so obvious what you are there for. For persons who like the quality of Sosua women and who like the intimacy of a small town then I would think that Sosua would be good for them. I would repeat again I love dark skinned women. If some of the women I see walking the streets of SDQ would do p4 p I would happily pay the extra cost to monger there. Anyway, Curacao, St. Martin and Aruba can be said to be small towns with large numbers of pros. To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations.

[Turgid]

Another man's trash is another man's treasure. Its not that you have been unlucky maybe you need to work on your skills. When you have been in this game for a while you can start to pick up on which ones will provide good service or not. You sound like an amateur to me. I don't know I'm just saying. We all have had bad sessions but after a while when you become seasoned it happens less. Thats because you learn how to pick them! Read the signs man don't point the finger.If you are under 40 I have been in this business before you were born. I get excellent service in every of the 50 plus destinations I go to except the DR and India. The latter being much worse than the DR. You can check my past posts. I will do the same with your posts.

[Turgid]

I don't know much about other Latin America regions but far as the DR- I agree with you. However, I ever heard anyone made the assertion that Sosua had the better looking chicas. (I have heard and agree Santiago hands down!) Specially when most of the chicas in Sosua come from SD. Sosua has the most freelance Dominican and Haitian semi and pro puta per square mile for p4p in the DR. That just my opinion. Mr. E, Camaro, Manny1, Mr Gogo, Turgid or anyone else who travel to other area in Latin America frequently; please share with the board an area within a 3 to 8 hour (2 and a half for me) plane ride that pound for pound competes with the DR.For me every other major Latin American destination. If I found the women of Sosua attractive and got good service from them it would definitely be one of my favorite destinations. For those of you for whom that is your experience you are fortunate, enjoy.

[Camaro1257]

I don't know much about other Latin America regions but far as the DR- I agree with you. However, I ever heard anyone made the assertion that Sosua had the better looking chicas. (I have heard and agree Santiago hands down!) Specially when most of the chicas in Sosua come from SD. Sosua has the most freelance Dominican and Haitian semi and pro puta per square mile for p4p in the DR. That just my opinion. Mr. E, Camaro, Manny1, Mr Gogo, Turgid or anyone else who travel to other area in Latin America frequently; please share with the board an area within a 3 to 8 hour (2 and a half for me) plane ride that pound for pound competes with the DR.I have been to most of the Latin American PFP destinations in the Western Hemisphere and agree that Sosua currently provides the best bang for the buck however that is subject to change if the government continues its crackdown. The interesting thing is that I have met Dominicanas in Costa Rica, Panama and as far away as Argentina so they get around. As far as Sosua talent goes you generally won't see high end Santiago types simply because of Sosua's reputation and the fact is they can make more money elsewhere than what the average budget monger wants to pay.

[GrownMan1]

For me every other major Latin American destination. If I found the women of Sosua attractive and got good service from them it would definitely be one of my favorite destinations. For those of you for whom that is your experience you are fortunate, enjoy.

I respect you attempt to give examples. Me being a cheap skate and the boldness of your statement- you had my attention. But you have made a statement. Continue to do so and have yet to validate your point. A flight to Medellin cost me about $1300 and 17 hours of flying just to get there. And I live on the southern east of the US close to several major airports. Going to the DR its cost me about 382 and no more than 8 hours round trip. I pay 30 - 40 dollar for hotel if I chose with wifi and hotwater. I pay about $25 per session and get to chose st or ltr. I am not confined to the limited chicas in a casa. I can't complain about service once I apply some basic understanding. There are rules to this sport. I don't do Casas and time limits anymore. You stated much less. Yet you don't show much less. Olkools statement alone said enough. I average spending 120 per day with car, food, pussy and misc. Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.

[Camaro1257]

Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.Funny Guy. LOL!

[Knowledge]

1) First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective 2) SDQ has no equivalent to the chicas of Energy and Abydos, .Based only on my own experience, I agree with number 1 and I disagree with number 2.

[Turgid]

I respect you attempt to give examples. Me being a cheap skate and the boldness of your statement- you had my attention. But you have made a statement. Continue to do so and have yet to validate your point. A flight to Medellin cost me about $1300 and 17 hours of flying just to get there. And I live on the southern east of the US close to several major airports. Going to the DR its cost me about 382 and no more than 8 hours round trip. I pay 30 - 40 dollar for hotel if I chose with wifi and hotwater. I pay about $25 per session and get to chose st or ltr. I am not confined to the limited chicas in a casa. I can't complain about service once I apply some basic understanding. There are rules to this sport. I don't do Casas and time limits anymore. You stated much less. Yet you don't show much less. Olkools statement alone said enough. I average spending 120 per day with car, food, pussy and misc. Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.I pay $900 airfare to MDE. I'm sorry, I can't stay in the $30 - $40 hotels in SDQ, they are the equivalent of the $15 hotels in MDE. Hotel in MDE $50, SDQ no less than $90. $20 plus for top notch chicas in MDE not available in SDQ. I am basically a casa man. The Haitians used to save the day for me in Sosua up to my penultimate trip in 2008. In my last trip to Sosua earlier this year I encountered no doable Haitians. The service level of the Haitians is way above that of the Dominicans. I spend no more than $7 for a meal in MDE, hotel breakfast, lunch and supermarket fare for dinner. I take the metro everywhere (about $1 per trip). I average $90 per day for accommodation, transport, food, chicas and misc. I spend more time with the cheaper pros who are way hotter than the average Dominican pros. In the DR my daily budget comes up to around $150 with hotel, taxis etc. And I even sample more chicas in MDE than I do in SDQ. Yes the flight is longer but its worth it.

[GrownMan1]

I pay $900 airfare to MDE. I'm sorry, I can't stay in the $30 - $40 hotels in SDQ, they are the equivalent of the $15 hotels in MDE. Hotel in MDE $50, SDQ no less than $90. $20 plus for top notch chicas in MDE not available in SDQ. I am basically a casa man. The Haitians used to save the day for me in Sosua up to my penultimate trip in 2008. In my last trip to Sosua earlier this year I encountered no doable Haitians. The service level of the Haitians is way above that of the Dominicans. I spend no more than $7 for a meal in MDE, hotel breakfast, lunch and supermarket fare for dinner. I take the metro everywhere (about $1 per trip). I average $90 per day for accommodation, transport, food, chicas and misc. I spend more time with the cheaper pros who are way hotter than the average Dominican pros. In the DR my daily budget comes up to around $150 with hotel, taxis etc. And I even sample more chicas in MDE than I do in SDQ. Yes the flight is longer but its worth it.Now that's a good budget! It does not beat my budget nor support your boastful statement. I quote, "many other Latin American cites will cost much less than a similar trip to SD from any part of the US". You use MDE as an example. That's over $900 pass my norm budget (or $400 base on your price for a ticket months in advance. I don't understand how you can call mongers who take advantage of short flights lazy. When you fly? Hours longer to MDE to sit in a hoe house to point and click from their selection. Their service must be excellent! Since you are basically a casa man, (that's lazy mongering to me) I understand why using game to deal with your chicas may be a problem. I confess I don't really go for the top notch chicas. They are known to be more bark than bite. I will 8 out of 10 spend $25 on a semi pro than $20 on a top notch hard core puta. Metro for $1 is great. I could save that way but I like the freedom of roaming in a car at my will. You say MDE has way hotter and cheaper pro chicas with better service; I will except your opinion because you been to both place. When was the last time you been to both places? How much are you paying for chicas, food, and transpo. In the DR? You say budget in the DR is $150. After hotel $90 or more you have $60 or less left for food, chica, transport and misc. The average price in SD in 4000 now. Your penultimate trip was in 2008. That's 6 yrs ago. So I will say 3000 in a casa in SD. I will make it an even 2500 peso even though the US dollar is valued more now 42.3 than almost two years ago 37.4. After your chica that leaves you with about $10 dollar for food and trans. No drinks at the casa I hope, those of us that have been to casas know that robbery. Of course you don't have to explain yourself. I was just trying to let you reel me in on your statements. Wait a Minute! I apologize. I must be honest. I have now found flights as low as $495 with only 7. 5 hours one way and 8. 5 hours back with spirit aa out of ATL. Mr Turgid Sir with a little more research I may bite! Can any one else elaborate!

[Turgid]

I will except your opinion because you been to both place. When was the last time you been to both places? Mr Turgid Sir with a little more research I may bite! I was in the DR in May / June, 2014 and in MDE in July, 2014 and my calculations revealed that MDE cost me less per unit time including airfare. It really is a matter of personal taste and I really do not consider another man's budget in coming up with my own and don't expect anyone to rely on mine. Furthermore I would expect that there are mongers out there who prefer DR chicas to Colombianas, it is all subjective. If I found DR pros hotter than Paisas I would probably be a lazy monger and spend alot of time in Sosua. Finally my intention is not to try to get anyone to bite. I am just relating my experience. What works for me cost wise may not work for someone else and vice versa. Also do alot of research outside of this board. I would advise mongers to depend on their own experience as I have always done and if the DR does it for you please continue to go there.

[Frannie]

What's the advantage of small towns? They do nothing for me. I actually prefer the anonymity of cities. Its not so obvious what you are there for. For persons who like the quality of Sosua women and who like the intimacy of a small town then I would think that Sosua would be good for them. I would repeat again I love dark skinned women. Anyway, Curacao, St. Martin and Aruba can be said to be small towns with large numbers of pros. To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations.Yes, but are you saying that these other destinations are equivalent to Sosua in value and that they have an equivalent number of freelance chicas?

I don't think you can say that freelance chicas are the same as casa chicas for various reasons. Perhaps the primary one is that the freelance chicas are not providing income to pimps or prostitution related businesses, so the money you give them is theirs, unless they choose to share it with someone, and half or two thirds of it is not taken by the house--so there is a pretty big ethical issue there. Secondly, since they are not on a fixed schedule, you can spend time with them how you want, short time or all day, use them as tour guides, shopping consultants, Spanish language conversation tutors, meet their families, and so on. Is this the same in all other destinations you have been to? It may be the case.

Frankly I am in the twilight of my mongering career that has now lasted something like 13 years--I am to old to remember when it started--and I don't care that much for it any more, but I still think that what Sosua offers men is the chance to experience sex with a variety of attractive young women in a vacation type atmosphere without it seeming like organized prostitution. OK, that may be a bit of an illusion if you look deep behind the scenes, but I can't imagine having the same type of experience in London or Amsterdam even if you leave the cost factor out of the equation and even though these cities have many more other tourist attractions, public transportation etc.

[Turgid]

Yes, but are you saying that these other destinations are equivalent to Sosua in value and that they have an equivalent number of freelance chicas?

I don't think you can say that freelance chicas are the same as casa chicas for various reasons. Perhaps the primary one is that the freelance chicas are not providing income to pimps or prostitution related businesses, so the money you give them is theirs, unless they choose to share it with someone, and half or two thirds of it is not taken by the house--so there is a pretty big ethical issue there. Secondly, since they are not on a fixed schedule, you can spend time with them how you want, short time or all day, use them as tour guides, shopping consultants, Spanish language conversation tutors, meet their families, and so on. Is this the same in all other destinations you have been to? It may be the case.

Frankly I am in the twilight of my mongering career that has now lasted something like 13 years--I am to old to remember when it started--and I don't care that much for it any more, but I still think that what Sosua offers men is the chance to experience sex with a variety of attractive young women in a vacation type atmosphere without it seeming like organized prostitution. OK, that may be a bit of an illusion if you look deep behind the scenes, but I can't imagine having the same type of experience in London or Amsterdam even if you leave the cost factor out of the equation and even though these cities have many more other tourist attractions, public transportation etc.Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 – women from all over South East Asia – sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.

I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.

[GrownMan1]

Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 women from all over South East Asia sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.

I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.You stated in Fannie's report "To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations".

You also stated," I believe that if you are not good looking you should at least provide good service which I found to be lacking in Sosua ". Is this not a major difference! And which is it the chicas are not good looking. Bad serves -both.

Since you stated on 5/14 " I have noticed that Sosua is much more lively than when I was last here in 2008. There is just so much more happening. There are much more women and much hotter than back then".

I will go with serves from the pros are bad, but that will contradict your above statement.

Sorry I'm beating a dead horse. You stated you are the casa type and that will explain you lack of success in Sosua. Newbies you'll should know the chicas you want to deal with before you make the trip. If you are a casa man like my man Turgid, go to an area where there are a lot of casas so you can point and click easier. If a puta is not doing her job you can complain to the manager. Though Turgid stated in the MDE board on 6/10 "That's the classic excuse of a puta who does not want to provide proper service. I usually threaten to complain to management when she says that. I refuse to waste my precious leche on a HJ or CBJ. If she insists on HJ or CBJ I usually end the session then and there and do complain to management. Its rarely settled in my favor, however. ".

With the closing of CMP and Passions Sosua is not for you. If you like being on the front line reading, interacting, negotiating and dealing with a lot of semi and pro puta on a one on one; still pointing and clicking; Sosua is your place.

[The Guy]

I've just spent some time in the DR and will share my impressions. I'll try not to repeat too much information from this board, which is an excellent resource.

There are some good deals in the DR mongering world, but it is generally overpriced. Given the low cost of local labor, mongering should be cheaper. While this is obviously subjective, you'll get a more attractive hooker for your money in most South American venues. There are some additional caveats with lower-class DR women: They tend to age more quickly than women in other developing countries. This seems to due to hygiene, diet (obesity is a growing problem in the DR), lack of exercise and frequent child births. It was rare that I found a lower-class DR woman over 30 years old attractive, and the looks seemed to sometimes even go by 25. So get them while they're young!

Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon. Good-looking girls from clubs could easily get over $100, even $200-300 (especially in Punta Cana), but these girls were almost never knock-outs. The Doll House Strip Club on the Malecon (with mostly Colombian imports) charges the same for lap dances and extras as many strip clubs in the USA Shangri-La massage spa for men in the Malecon Center (next to the Hilton) has attractive women, but charges 2,300 for an ordinary massage, and the girl doesn't even get a cut. They'll want another 1,000-2,000 for a fully-clothed HJ. I actually liked Slip on Me at 2,200.

However, the DR really shines when it comes to non-pros. DR girls desperatly want to go out with gringo guys, and they are enthusiastic performers. Dating takes time, effort and Spanish skills, but that's really where the action is. When dating, you can even push it up into the middle or even upper-middle classes. In that case, you get a better-educated companion whose looks don't necessarily go to hell at 25.

Where to meet non-pros? Actually, you can meet them anywhere if you possess decent Spanish skills. DR people are extremely foreigner-friendly and you can always strike up a conversation. If you make a few friends on FB, just look for hot-looking friends and befriend them. When they ask why you are making virtual friends, just say you looked really interested on-line and we share many of the same interests. The hottest seemed to me in cities you wouldn't want to go as a tourist. Like San Francisco de Macoris or Santiago. No problem. They'll offer to come to Santo Domingo to meet you (especially if you offer to pay bus fare).

Anyway, I know some will disagree but this is my take on the DR: So-so for mongering but quite decent for casual dating. The looks go very fast, so get them as young as possible.

[Talion]

Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 women from all over South East Asia sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.

I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.There is nothing more tired or less interesting than casa chicas. Their time isn't their own so they're there whether they want to be or not. Their goal is to bang as many separate guys as possible in their allotted time and then punch out an go home. They have no interest in the guys, no interest in their jobs, and as such are less interesting to me. Doing the compound thing like Blackbeards or Field of Dreams is the least interesting type of mongering experience available. You might as well stay home and bang a high priced hooker and save the airfare. It's mongering with training wheels, and it's fine for newbies as it builds confidence and provides a platform to leap from, but the greater and woder experience is only available to those who get out in the world.

Freelancers are a greater risk, this is true, but this is how a monger hones his skills and becomes a monger, by learning how to negotiate and how to screen freelancers. Interviewing is an essential skill and if you do it then 99% of the worst issues can be avoided. Freelancers are on their own time, aren't typically looking to do more than one or possibly (but not usually) two. They don't have to pretend to like you because it's the house rule. They pretend to like you because they want to! LOL.

Every once in a while you'll even find the ones that genuinely enjoy your company. They're not on a clock, they want to have sex with you (sometimes even without payment) and their level of engagement is 500% higher than a casa chica will ever be (at least until she gets out of the casa and makes her own rules. They all do eventually) With non-pros there's an added emphasis on everything I just said, and possibly even a feature or two more as far as the emotional engagement goes.

Casa chicas are great when you've got an hour to kill and you want her to be gone at the end of it, but no one that I'd ever call a monger goes exclusively for the purpose of going to casas. Still, I support everyone's right to their preferences, and will happily concede that what makes you happy is what you should do. No matter what your niche is, never let anyone tell you that you have to be somewhere else. I support a different point of view, but you should continue to do what makes you happy, because at the end of everything, when all is said and done, isn't that the point?

[Helpmann]

...Anyway, I know some will disagree but this is my take on the DR: So-so for mongering but quite decent for casual dating...This is my take on the Dominican Republic as well.

Excluding the tourist bull-shit (climate, culture, beaches, resorts, dining), the DR is an average LatAm country for P4P. Personally, I believe that San Jose is one of the best cities in LatAm for P4P due to the price per transaction, the transparency of the pricing, the numerous sex establishments, the proximity of the establishments to one another, and the skill and variety of the servicers.

Nevertheless, the DR is an above average LatAm country for dating non-pros (working professionals). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, police officers, and models all are easily available with Spanish proficiency and skills. Although, most are easily available in Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Panama, or Colombia, it is harder to obtain the equivalent non-pro at the same level of physical attractiveness.

I find that if I want to fuck working professionals outside of the Dominican Republic, then I know that I will have to settle for a woman who is 2 levels lower on the scale of physical attractiveness (0-10). Because I want to fuck 8's and NOT 6's, I settle for (pay) pros or semi-pros (university students, waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks, and Badoo and "Cupido" girls) when I am traveling outside of the Dominican Republic.

BTW: Although, physical attractiveness is highly subjective, I find that Dominican women have the best natural bodies in Latin America (large ass-to-waist ratio and large breast-to-waist ratio).

-Helpmann :)

[Knowledge]

There are more than a few Dominicans working the gringos in San Jose, Costa Rica.


This is my take on the Dominican Republic as well.

Excluding the tourist bull-shit (climate, culture, beaches, resorts, dining), the DR is an average LatAm country for P4P. Personally, I believe that San Jose is one of the best cities in LatAm for P4P due to the price per transaction, the transparency of the pricing, the numerous sex establishments, the proximity of the establishments to one another, and the skill and variety of the servicers.

Nevertheless, the DR is an above average LatAm country for dating non-pros (working professionals). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, police officers, and models all are easily available with Spanish proficiency and skills. Although, most are easily available in Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Panama, or Colombia, it is harder to obtain the equivalent non-pro at the same level of physical attractiveness.

I find that if I want to fuck working professionals outside of the Dominican Republic, then I know that I will have to settle for a woman who is 2 levels lower on the scale of physical attractiveness (0-10). Because I want to fuck 8's and NOT 6's, I settle for (pay) pros or semi-pros (university students, waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks, and Badoo and "Cupido" girls) when I am traveling outside of the Dominican Republic.

BTW: Although, physical attractiveness is highly subjective, I find that Dominican women have the best natural bodies in Latin America (large ass-to-waist ratio and large breast-to-waist ratio).

-Helpmann :)

[Knowledge]

I think we might agree about something. I find the pricing structure in Medellin much more structured and predictable across the board. Clip joints and tourist only rates in Medellin are rare and isolated. Casa prices in the Centro are all within a few hundred COP of each other. Casas of the next tier up (Energy, Abydos, etc.) don't differ much in price either. Like everything else in Colombia, the scene is more developed and organized than the Dominican counterparts. It's neither better worse in my opinion, just different. Another difference that matters to some is, in my opinion, it's easier for outsiders to make personal connections in the Dominican Republic than it generally is in Colombian cities. Have fun!


I've just spent some time in the DR and will share my impressions. I'll try not to repeat too much information from this board, which is an excellent resource.

There are some good deals in the DR mongering world, but it is generally overpriced. Given the low cost of local labor, mongering should be cheaper. While this is obviously subjective, you'll get a more attractive hooker for your money in most South American venues. There are some additional caveats with lower-class DR women: They tend to age more quickly than women in other developing countries. This seems to due to hygiene, diet (obesity is a growing problem in the DR), lack of exercise and frequent child births. It was rare that I found a lower-class DR woman over 30 years old attractive, and the looks seemed to sometimes even go by 25. So get them while they're young!

Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon...

[GrownMan1]

Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon. Good-looking girls from clubs could easily get over $100, even $200-300 (especially in Punta Cana), but these girls were almost never knock-outs. The Doll House Strip Club on the Malecon (with mostly Colombian imports) charges the same for lap dances and extras as many strip clubs in the USA Shangri-La massage spa for men in the Malecon Center (next to the Hilton) has attractive women, but charges 2,300 for an ordinary massage, and the girl doesn't even get a cut. They'll want another 1,000-2,000 for a fully-clothed HJ. I actually liked Slip on Me at 2,200.

.I think this is a good take on SDQ and PC as far as prices. But not for BC, Sosua, SP, LR, La Vega, or Hiquey.

[SavePros321]

First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective and for me the women of the destinations I will give are hotter than DR women. Perfect example is Medellin from which I have just returned. The $50 per day hotel in which I stayed (Estadio Real) will cost more than twice that for the equivalent in SDQ. I would rate the women of New Life casa (I paid US $20 per half hour. I did 1/2 hr sessions there) as hot as the women of Casa Teresa (US $100 per hr- no option for 1/2 hr here). Food is cheaper in MDE, Taxis are everywhere, metered and cheap, you do not have to wait as long as 5 minutes for a taxi here). Only the airfare is more expensive. Here, I agree with Turgid having been to Medellin about 7 times now: Medellin is not cheap! Getting there costs me anywhere from $800-$1000. I do not stay in hotels while in Medellin: I use apartments. Most of the apartments I stay in run anywhere from $125-$145 per night. And these are not junk apartments. They are usually 2-3 bedrooms with A/C and hot tub in a very good (strategic) location. Flat screens in every room. DirectTV, hot water 24/7, at least 2-3 bathrooms, washer and dryer in the apartment, you name it. (Quality) Chicas (not the "streetie" drugged up, strung out types) that come to your apartment with GFE / unrushed service will run you anywhere from $65-$100+ dollars plus $20 in taxi fare ($10 both ways) depending on how close or far she is from you.

The most important cultural difference I have found between the DR and Colombia is the idea of prepago-ism (lol). When I am scouting chicas on Dominican Cupid, all of them seem to be looking for boyfriends or husbands; something serious. When I am working the fb network in Medellin, every chica I have hit up already knows the deal: they will provide you with the girlfriend experience (GFE) in exchange for some pesos. This makes my job a hell of a lot easier, because I do not have to explain to her that I want to see multiple chicas during my time there. They already know this. I have not been to a casa or strip club since my very first trip to Medellin. All of my chicas would be considered Semi Pros. They are available to meet with you any time (as long as they are not en la universidad at the time), and are not in a rush to leave once they arrive at your place. Some are available for TLN given advanced notice.

Having to work the "potential novio para ti" angle in the DR is a headache. I hate having to create fake responses to "que buscas? Un relacion seria?" But having said that, there are no shortage of very hot Dominicanas that send me messages and "interests" on DC, and when asked if they can come and visit me, the response is always "Si, claro. " Whether or not it holds up once you are actually on the ground is something I haven't had a chance to explore yet (see explanation below).


Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.

I would love to rent a car and drive throughout the island. Hats off to you guys that have figured it out. I just find being pulled over by the cops and every 5 minutes is not my idea of fun. Probably would not be driving into a chica's barrio to pick her up either since I don't know anything about the island outside of Sosua.

Like Mr. Gogo said: it seems like most guys come to SD and get their asses kicked so hard that they run crying to Sosua the next day. SD seems to work for those that have connects from previous trips as backups (like chicas who live in SD, but were in Sosua during the time the two of you met). Tempoecoto (spelling) demonstrated that you can spend a great deal of time messaging back and forth with these chicas, and then show up and they flake on you. I do not find this to be a problem in Medellin. I can show up their with a completely new roster of chicas I want to see and the only problem I would have is one or two show up late.

My trips having been running anywhere from a week to a week and a half these days (thank you higher edjumacation!) Even so, I do not want to spend 2-3 days in SD going on dates with "non pros" when I already am arriving there with weeks of blue balls. I do not want to have to use casas, streetwalkers, or strip clubs as a backup plan when I don't even have (need) to use those options in Medellin. My first day in country in Medellin I easily am doing 4 different chicas if I arrive their early enough in the day (and depending on how heavy traffic is that day).

So to the experienced SD Vets: What is it that I am missing when it comes to trying to hook up with chicas in SD without having one of them wanting to cling to you for an entire day before she decides to give you some?

[GrownMan1]

Here, I agree with Turgid having been to Medellin about 7 times now: Medellin is not cheap! Getting there costs me anywhere from $800-$1000. I do not stay in hotels while in Medellin: I use apartments. Most of the apartments I stay in run anywhere from $125-$145 per night. And these are not junk apartments. They are usually 2-3 bedrooms with A/C and hot tub in a very good (strategic) location. Flat screens in every room. DirectTV, hot water 24/7, at least 2-3 bathrooms, washer and dryer in the apartment, you name it. (Quality) Chicas (not the "streetie" drugged up, strung out types) that come to your apartment with GFE / unrushed service will run you anywhere from $65-$100+ dollars plus $20 in taxi fare ($10 both ways) depending on how close or far she is from you.

( Now that's some info. Though Turgid was saying different in terms of budget. $800 to $1000 for ticket, $125-$145 hotel, $65-100 for the chica plus $20 for the taxi. Why don't you let her take the $1 metro big balla lol. I found tickets with AA for as low as 495 rt. I am paying $35-40 hotel and $25-30 for chica. Your prices are killing me! lol But that's the norm in SD and ST.)


The most important cultural difference I have found between the DR and Colombia is the idea of prepago-ism (lol). When I am scouting chicas on Dominican Cupid, all of them seem to be looking for boyfriends or husbands; something serious. When I am working the fb network in Medellin, every chica I have hit up already knows the deal: they will provide you with the girlfriend experience (GFE) in exchange for some pesos. This makes my job a hell of a lot easier, because I do not have to explain to her that I want to see multiple chicas during my time there. They already know this. I have not been to a casa or strip club since my very first trip to Medellin. All of my chicas would be considered Semi Pros. They are available to meet with you any time (as long as they are not en la universidad at the time), and are not in a rush to leave once they arrive at your place. Some are available for TLN given advanced notice.

Having to work the "potential novio para ti" angle in the DR is a headache. I hate having to create fake responses to "que buscas? Un relacion seria?" But having said that, there are no shortage of very hot Dominicanas that send me messages and "interests" on DC, and when asked if they can come and visit me, the response is always "Si, claro. " Whether or not it holds up once you are actually on the ground is something I haven't had a chance to explore yet (see explanation below).

( I understand the headache with working the potential novo angle. I kinda of goes with the non puta ammunition lol.) Olskool always advised stick with semi pros so she will no her exit when the time come with no problem. I do hate the "tienes un novia aqui" from my non pros- because now I have to lie to get the most out of my experience)

I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.

I would love to rent a car and drive throughout the island. Hats off to you guys that have figured it out. I just find being pulled over by the cops and every 5 minutes is not my idea of fun. Probably would not be driving into a chica's barrio to pick her up either since I don't know anything about the island outside of Sosua.

Like Mr. Gogo said: it seems like most guys come to SD and get their asses kicked so hard that they run crying to Sosua the next day. SD seems to work for those that have connects from previous trips as backups (like chicas who live in SD, but were in Sosua during the time the two of you met). Tempoecoto (spelling) demonstrated that you can spend a great deal of time messaging back and forth with these chicas, and then show up and they flake on you. I do not find this to be a problem in Medellin. I can show up their with a completely new roster of chicas I want to see and the only problem I would have is one or two show up late.

My trips having been running anywhere from a week to a week and a half these days (thank you higher edjumacation!) Even so, I do not want to spend 2-3 days in SD going on dates with "non pros" when I already am arriving there with weeks of blue balls. I do not want to have to use casas, streetwalkers, or strip clubs as a backup plan when I don't even have (need) to use those options in Medellin. My first day in country in Medellin I easily am doing 4 different chicas if I arrive their early enough in the day (and depending on how heavy traffic is that day).

So to the experienced SD Vets: What is it that I am missing when it comes to trying to hook up with chicas in SD without having one of them wanting to cling to you for an entire day before she decides to give you some?
Wow no casa, street walks, or strip clubs- were do these chicas hangout to get their customers from? It sound like you are missing out on possibly saving money and time on flight, the add beach environment and the need for a little game. I am not a SD Vet but you can't be up and running like that in the DR without some planning. Shit even some semi pro don't know when to leave you alone. DR people are never on time and costumer service is not a priority. You are right you do need connects for of good services. Does Mde give you that home town vibe?

[Grandnash84]

I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.

Of my 3-4 year going to sd, I've always asked the taxi how much before going with him. If I'm quoted a high price I just counter with what it should cost, around 200-300 depending on where. Once they know you know the price they tend to back off from scamming. I've noticed that vans on the conde will want more and not budge, I just walk down to independicia or go to the catherdral and catch one from there if my regualr is busy. As long as the price was negoated up front like with chicas there should be no problem. I even caught taxis from Naco to zonza cononal and didn't ask for price but when droped off was only charge 200. I think he didn't even ask, I just handed him 200 and got out. Most I paid was 300 from naco to std este.

[Turgid]

The vibe I'm getting is that the DR is good for non-pros (SDQ) and the non-pro illusion (Sosua). I save my non-pro activity for the US. Yes, they are bullshitters but at least I can talk with them about international politics, economics, history, literature, current affairs etc. I need that mental stimulation. Perhaps when I learn Spanish and decide to take a Latina under my wing I may pursue the non-pro option. I love variety, black, brown, white, Latina, Asian, European, American, hence my need to travel. I hobby at home and abroad. You can get all these women in the States but if you plan and budget properly you can have a cheaper experience abroad.

[BoricuaOnline]

Of my 3-4 year going to sd, I've always asked the taxi how much before going with him. If I'm quoted a high price I just counter with what it should cost, around 200-300 depending on where. Once they know you know the price they tend to back off from scamming. I've noticed that vans on the conde will want more and not budge, I just walk down to independicia or go to the catherdral and catch one from there if my regualr is busy. As long as the price was negoated up front like with chicas there should be no problem. I even caught taxis from Naco to zonza cononal and didn't ask for price but when droped off was only charge 200. I think he didn't even ask, I just handed him 200 and got out. Most I paid was 300 from naco to std este.I asked a taxi in front of Mercure in ZoNa Colonial how much to Gazcue, he quoted me 250 pesos. I took my phone and called Aero Taxi, their cost is 140 pesos (which is the rate for short rides in SD). 95% of my rides costed less than 180 pesos. Bus to Boca Chica 70 pesos, to Juan Dolio 70 pesos too.

[GrownMan1]

The vibe I'm getting is that the DR is good for non-pros (SDQ) and the non-pro illusion (Sosua)..Naw my man its hoes and more hoe in Sosua, It's rare to get the non pro illusion.

[Tempoecorto]

I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. You are afraid of SD because of taxis? I dislike SD but because it has nothing that reminds you of a caribbean island but taxis are no big deal given that you speak Spanish I presume? I stated 150 pesos for short rides and there was no issues whatsoever and for my ride back to the airport, I asked the taxi man to look for another ride to share. End result, I paid $20 from hotel to the Airport. Door to door.

Having said that, there is nothing like driving around and do not let the cops scare you. I have not had "no" bad experiences so far. Driving during the day and never driving drunk. I also must state that my SD no show was a complete newbie who I had met online only about 5 days back. As I said, I dislike the big city but I have no doubt that if I were to focus on spending time on chatting people up there, they would all be girl friend experiences which essentially all my contacts are in the north (this trip. Except one out of 4 newbies out of a total of 11 - who balked) starting Bonao and that means, they will give it to you, whenever you are in the mood and however you want it.

In summary, SD does not have any particular charm for me, except at times, the flight cost, which was the case this time.

[Knowledge]

I don't understand why nobody is listening to you Boricua. You are telling the truth. It's almost like people prefer the taxi drama and need something to complain about. I can make it even simpler. 200 pesos will cover a reasonable tip AND most any trip from say the Jaragua west to Nunez, north to Ovando (think of it as the cemetery near Kennedy). That covers Naco, Piantini, Ensanche Quisqueya, the Acropolis and the new shopping malls. Use that as a guide and you won't be ripped off and there will be no need for arguments or police.


I asked a taxi in front of Mercure in ZoNa Colonial how much to Gazcue, he quoted me 250 pesos. I took my phone and called Aero Taxi, their cost is 140 pesos (which is the rate for short rides in SD). 95% of my rides costed less than 180 pesos. Bus to Boca Chica 70 pesos, to Juan Dolio 70 pesos too.

[Wrx2005]

I would advise mongers to depend on their own experience as I have always done and if the DR does it for you please continue to go there.Turgid, before you even offered to share your experience, don't you think most guys were / are already doing just that? Your comment. "please continue to go there" I know you know what a pre supposition is. It's a way of saying something or sending a message without actually saying it. It can be used as a sly way of discounting someone elses experience, but be able to claim no harm was meant. People do that all the time. Anyone perceptive enough can pick up on the condescension in those types of statements.

Whats comical is all of this acknowledgement on both sides. The subjectiveness when it comes to attractiveness, character in women, cost, things to do etc. What difference does it make if one guy finds women hotter elsewhere than another place? We only think in one head, and we only fuck with one dick. For most, as long as we were satisfied with what we had, it makes no difference if some other woman elsewhere is hotter than the one that is in front of me.

Thats like somebody telling somebody else they wouldn't eat at a particular restaurant because the food tastes like shit, the place is a dump. Meanwhile someone else has no problem with the restaurant, and can explain why they like the food and the atmosphere there. The person listening, feigns acceptance. "Well if you like the food, and it meets your needs, then please continue to go there. " Well damn, that's what they were doing in the first place. They didn't need anyones blessing for that. Doesn't that sound condescending to you? I mean it's not like somebody asked for direct feedback. One persons experience or low opinion of people,place or things is not a common denominator or template for others. YMMD in all things.

[Wrx2005]

I asked a taxi in front of Mercure in ZoNa Colonial how much to Gazcue, he quoted me 250 pesos. I took my phone and called Aero Taxi, their cost is 140 pesos (which is the rate for short rides in SD). 95% of my rides costed less than 180 pesos. Bus to Boca Chica 70 pesos, to Juan Dolio 70 pesos too.I take it your spanish is 100% fluent?

[SavePros321]

I take it your spanish is 100% fluent?BoricuaOnline is 100% Puertorriqueño, lol.

[Knowledge]

It is not at all hard to find someone to talk to the taxi company for you. Now that the real fare has been repeated so many times here, you don't even need somebody you trust to talk to the taxi company for you. Ask your hotel to call a taxi or any random person. Have them tell the taxi company you are willing to pay 200 or you could pay twice that after arguing and risking a police bribe, depends on how much drama you like.


I take it your spanish is 100% fluent?

[Wrx2005]

BoricuaOnline is 100% Puertorriqueo, lol.Being fluent and also being Latino I'm sure might bring different / better results more often than for a dude who isn't. One thing for sure, it definitely makes sense to make sure you get the price straight before letting any driver take you anywhere.

[Wrx2005]

It is not at all hard to find someone to talk to the taxi company for you. Now that the real fare has been repeated so many times here, you don't even need somebody you trust to talk to the taxi company for you. Ask your hotel to call a taxi or any random person. Have them tell the taxi company you are willing to pay 200 or you could pay twice that after arguing and risking a police bribe, depends on how much drama you like.I recall 2 years back I booked at the Jaguar Apart Hotel in Gazcue. The owner had asked me if I needed to be picked up. I said yes. I was lead to believe the taxi coming to pick me up was a free pick up. I communicated with him again when I was getting my luggage. And again, I was lead to believe the hotel was providing "complimentary" transpo. When I got to the hotel, the driver was looking to get paid. More than what a savvy passenger would normally pay. The owner was outside in front, and we got into a dispute.

I ended up on the wrong foot with the hotel owner right off the bat, because I felt he set me up. I told him his choice of words about complimentary pickup, was all wrong. You don't tell your guests that you arranging the taxi coming to pick them up is complimentary. When what you really mean is, you sending a taxi is the only thing complimentary. I told him that anybody can get their own taxi from the airport. If the taxi sent was offering a lower fare, then it would be worth it. But this driver was asking for $40 from SDQ to the Jaguar. I find too often in the DR, a lot of Dominicans don't seem to care about the potential for losing business, or losing long term benefits.

The only thing enough seem to care about is what they can get in the present moment. I think their mindset is, the person will get over it. Or it aint no big deal, because they may believe you got it like that and can afford that and more. It was obvious he was looking out for that taxi driver, and prepared to play dumb when I arrived at the hotel to figure out how things got twisted. The taxi driver could have been a regular driver for me, but that price he quoted eliminated him. The only thing he focused on is what he could get out of me for that trip. I saw him later during my stay. Then he had that look like he was waiting for me to hire him again. Like I forgot all about him trying to over charge me the 1st day.

I realized then, even if you trust someone to assist you, you still have to have quality information beforehand and be prepared to use it to reduce the possibility of anyone trying to get over on you. Especially when locals typically look out for each other.

[Knowledge]

I can tell you learned from the experience. I don't think it will happen to you again. I can't agree more with what you said about the Dominican habit of not thinking ahead or developing a business relationship. It is the reason behind a lot of social and economic problems and it runs the gamut from shoeshine boys, waiters, and everybody in the presidential palace right up to Danilo.


I recall 2 years back I booked at the Jaguar Apart Hotel in Gazcue. The owner had asked me if I needed to be picked up. I said yes. I was lead to believe the taxi coming to pick me up was a free pick up. I communicated with him again when I was getting my luggage. And again, I was lead to believe the hotel was providing "complimentary" transpo. When I got to the hotel, the driver was looking to get paid. More than what a savvy passenger would normally pay. The owner was outside in front, and we got into a dispute.

I ended up on the wrong foot with the hotel owner right off the bat, because I felt he set me up. I told him his choice of words about complimentary pickup, was all wrong. You don't tell your guests that you arranging the taxi coming to pick them up is complimentary. When what you really mean is, you sending a taxi is the only thing complimentary. I told him that anybody can get their own taxi from the airport. If the taxi sent was offering a lower fare, then it would be worth it. But this driver was asking for $40 from SDQ to the Jaguar. I find too often in the DR, a lot of Dominicans don't seem to care about the potential for losing business, or losing long term benefits...

[Fuddzie]

Returning to SD next week for some action. Never stayed in El Conde. Wondering what the street action is like during the afternoon and evening. Yes, I know it's everywhere, but I don't want to venture far from my hotel on foot.

[Tempoecorto]

Returning to SD next week for some action. Never stayed in El Conde. Wondering what the street action is like during the afternoon and evening. Yes, I know it's everywhere, but I don't want to venture far from my hotel on foot.I walked on el Conde as I stayed in a private house close by for three days starting 7/23. I was approached by several women at around 6 pm offering messages which I was not interested in. Also where el conde begins, close to Parque Independencia, the same evening, I came across at least one woman who smiled at me and came up to me for conversation. She quoted 1500 and on showing my surprise, quickly dropped it to 1000 pesos. I was not interested though so cannot speak more on that. This was very close to the restaurant known as Pacos, or Grands now. In total I am speaking of a stretch of about 4/5 blocks from Parque Independencia where I met with these options. Afternoon was way too hot to explore for me.

[Knowledge]

Late afternoon and evening is prime time. Position yourself prominently at an outdoor table, they will come to you.


Returning to SD next week for some action. Never stayed in El Conde. Wondering what the street action is like during the afternoon and evening. Yes, I know it's everywhere, but I don't want to venture far from my hotel on foot.

[Fuddzie]

Late afternoon and evening is prime time. Position yourself prominently at an outdoor table, they will come to you.Can someone please recommend a chica friendly hotel in El Conde? Nothing fancy, just clean with a bed and AC.

[Tempoecorto]

Can someone please recommend a chica friendly hotel in El Conde? Nothing fancy, just clean with a bed and AC.I checked only one hotel. Practically opposite Pacos / Grands. A little tangentially with a whole bunch of flags waving. Cannot miss it, smack at the beginning of el conde. Must have been renovated recently. Can't remember the name. You ring the bell and they open the door remotely for you and then you go up a flight of stairs where the rooms are. The rooms were clean, modern style. Chrome and glass kind and with A / see. Starting at $40. I had the business card the woman gave me but I misplaced it. I cannot speak of being guest friendly as I did not stay or ask about it but, I have no doubt that being a small hotel, it is. Indeed, the reception upstairs is in a separate room and you do not need to pass through there as you go to your room.

[JJ341]

Hotel Discovery, Roma 1 and Mercure fall into your category. They all have web sites.


Can someone please recommend a chica friendly hotel in El Conde? Nothing fancy, just clean with a bed and AC..

[GrownMan1]

Hotel Discovery, Roma 1 and Mercure fall into your category. They all have web sites.

.If you think the mercure is chica friend you are going to be in for a surprise.

[Fuddzie]

If you think the mercure is chica friend you are going to be in for a surprise.I heard the Mecure charges $17/ per guest. I decided to stay at the Roma. .

[Grandnash84]

I heard the Mecure charges $17/ per guest. I decided to stay at the Roma. .Which roma did you stay at?

[Fuddzie]

Which roma did you stay at?Roma 1 haven't stayed yet.

[OldKool]

I plan to see SD and Sosua. In SD I am staying the Hotel San Francisco in zona colonal. The hotel is $40 it appears to have the things I require. I plan to walk El Conde and checkout some of the hotels that are not well known. It will answer many questions about chjca friendly hotels. I use priceline and see many hotels that I have no knowledge of. Many of these hotels are listed under $50 and are close to El Conde.

My Schedule is fluid. I am not sure how long I will be in any location but I have several chicason the list.

[ILikeBigButts3]

I'm heading back to SD and Santiago on the 28th, for two weeks if anyone is around. I never saw any of these car wash places and never ventured into any casas not on avenida pasteur (I did go to 1000 peso and hour place once in santo domingo forgotten the name) so will try to see more of these. Will try to stay at san fran de asis but they are hard to book from experience, and were full most days last month. Wasn't roma II labelled as a choice for gays in the capital to stay? If anyone knows of a good hotel in santiago that doesn't cost an arm and and a leg that'd be great.

[Tempoecorto]

Will try to stay at san fran de asis but they are hard to book from experience, and were full most days last month. I stayed with San Fran de Asis early August. Just showed up. Their 50 dollar rooms are very nice. The receptionist is Jenny. I also told her the web booking does not work as I tried. She did not know how to react.

Also at the beginning of El Conde, there is a hotel, tangentially across Pacos / Grands. I checked the room and the 40 dollar room was nice. Again, they had rooms available when I showed up.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

In SD now. I checked into Riazor. Paid $65 cash. Nice room and small hotel overall. I'm only here for a day, but I could be comfortable here. My taxi from the bus terminal did not know about Jaguar apartments and I dropped the ball by not copying the address. We pull up to the casino and I'm just got frustrated and remember hearing good things about Riazor.

I'm happy with my choice. Took about 20 minutes to walk to El Conde. The vultures are out. Damn near got tackled to go get a massage. She would not take no for an answer and insisted on showing me the setup even though I said I was hungry. Made a weak promise to meet in my room. She was a cutie, but I doubt if I call. Noticed her nail Polish was all chipped and that kinda killed it for me.

Eating at the El Conde hotel right now. It's almost 8 pm and there's a couple of good options around. I just don't feel it. Sosua drained the shit out of me. All the drinking and fucking seems to have caught up on me and I might not pick up anything. I'm going to Avenida Independencia next to look around. Unless something surprising happens, I'll probably take the night off.

[Gas6459]

If you think the mercure is chica friend you are going to be in for a surprise.Well it depends the way you look at it. You can bring girls to Mercure every day and every night but its $13-17 per guest per day which still compared to some other places that just say no is somewhat reasonable, IMHO.

[Gas6459]

I find too often in the DR, a lot of Dominicans don't seem to care about the potential for losing business, or losing long term benefits. The only thing enough seem to care about is what they can get in the present moment. I think their mindset is, the person will get over it. Or it aint no big deal, because they may believe you got it like that and can afford that and more. It was obvious he was looking out for that taxi driver, and prepared to play dumb when I arrived at the hotel to figure out how things got twisted. The taxi driver could have been a regular driver for me, but that price he quoted eliminated him. The only thing he focused on is what he could get out of me for that trip. I saw him later during my stay. Then he had that look like he was waiting for me to hire him again. Like I forgot all about him trying to over charge me the 1st day.I realized then, even if you trust someone to assist you, you still have to have quality information beforehand and be prepared to use it to reduce the possibility of anyone trying to get over on you. Especially when locals typically look out for each other.If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.

[Wrx2005]

My taxi from the bus terminal did not know about Jaguar apartments and I dropped the ball by not copying the address. Jaguar Apart Hotel. 59 Hermanos Deligne, around the corner and up the street from the Riazor Hotel.

Rafael Jimenez was the owner / manager when I was there last. Had no problems. Although I did not really like their shower. It's like a step down in a small tub that has a shower head. No big deal, but I like a regular walk in shower. King bed and the queen beds were comfortable. Internet was ok. Clean, friendly staff.

[Knowledge]

You are aware of the culture. That is the most important thing. You don't have to sink to that level but you need to be aware. You can behave honorably and treat service providers fairly but if you expect the same in return you will be disappointed, angry, ripped off or worse. Expect the rip off attempt and when it comes, make it clear you know it and won't have any part of it.

Have fun.


If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.

[Alex Deuce]

If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.It's like that for new faces everywhere. After they see you have been and will be around for a while it changes drastically almost over night. Yet, the basic rule of thumb is negotiations are seldom expected to be a win win in anything. The better negotiator or person with the capital, in that order, generally is expected to come out with the better of the bargain. You have no spine you get taken advantage of. Then there is spine and stupid.

[Mfins]

If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.Here here, I agree with you 100%. Things do improve some when the provider or waiter, bartender etc see you over and over trip after trip but not nearly as much as other latin american countries. I really like the DR and I have been 5 times this year so far. In all honesty if the DR could change there way of thinking just a little I would go twice as much and spend twice as much. Also, each time I leave I feel as though I need a bath and a detox to cleanse me from all the attempted scams, and rip off attempts that make me feel dirty.

[Wrx2005]

You are aware of the culture. That is the most important thing. You don't have to sink to that level but you need to be aware. You can behave honorably and treat service providers fairly but if you expect the same in return you will be disappointed, angry, ripped off or worse. Expect the rip off attempt and when it comes, make it clear you know it and won't have any part of it.

Have fun.This is a different area. But relevant. My return trip on Caribe Tours bus from SD to Charimicos, I watched how obsessed most of the passengers behaved when it was time to board the bus. Generally In the states, you would likely see an organized line formed with each person waiting their turn to board. But not this bunch. They acted like the way many of them drive in the congested cities and communities in the DR. Get in where you fit in.

Same thing happened at the rest stop. No organization. Just a mob of people swarming the counter pushing and shoving just to get snacks. And nobody there with the sense to establish order to avoid chaos. You almost see the same thing at airports. But airports establish some organization. And usually dominican travelers are mixed together with non dom who aint used to having to tolerate people who may lack home training or common sense. This is not to say all dominicans lack home training or act barbaric.

Which reminds me of the time I was at the Orange counter in the Playero in Sosua, and some 40 or 50 ish dom woman stepped in front of me and others while I was waiting. She was trying to get minutes put on her phone. I was pleased that the Orange rep ignored that ladies attempt to bogard the line, and took care of me after she finished with the previous customer. She made it clear to that woman that she had to wait. The look on that womans face was priceless. She just knew she was going to get serviced ahead of everybody else.

To the contrary. While in La Vega yesterday, outside of the general hustle and bustle around town, I enjoyed experiencing a more easy going and respectable representation of dominican life. Hung out with a friend whose family owns a construction business. I got to see the white collar segment of their operation. The owner, his dad was 71 yrs old sitting at his desk. It was a beautiful office building with friendly staff. A great example to show that everyone does not follow the same pattern of fucked up behavior we see in other places. In fact, maybe we shouldn't call some of the things we see to be dominican culture.

In this environment and others throughout the DR , I doubt much of the crap we talk about or experience would be tolerated.

[Frannie]

This is a different area. But relevant. My return trip on Caribe Tours bus from SD to Charimicos, I watched how obsessed most of the passengers behaved when it was time to board the bus. Generally In the states, you would likely see an organized line formed with each person waiting their turn to board. But not this bunch. They acted like the way many of them drive in the congested cities and communities in the DR. Get in where you fit in.

Same thing happened at the rest stop. No organization. Just a mob of people swarming the counter pushing and shoving just to get snacks. And nobody there with the sense to establish order to avoid chaos. You almost see the same thing at airports. But airports establish some organization. And usually dominican travelers are mixed together with non dom who aint used to having to tolerate people who may lack home training or common sense. This is not to say all dominicans lack home training or act barbaric.

I am not saying this to be contrary, but over the last decade I have taken Caribe Tours buses to and from Santo Domingo and Santiago loads and loads of times and have never, ever witnessed the kind of behavior you have described. In my experience the passengers get on the bus in a fairly orderly fashion, with some people forming a kind of line to put their baggage in the lower compartment, and others showing their tickets to the driver, who checks they are on the right bus, and climbing up into the bus and selecting seats inside.

On arrival at Santiago the driver will announce that there is a ten minute break and many passengers for Puerto Plata and Charamicos will dismount to use the bathroom or get a snack from the snack bar and then wait until the driver opens the door again so that they can get back on and return to their seats. Sometimes a few passengers will hop off and on again quickly at La Vega, but this is not really a rest stop. People will usually wait patiently and respectfully for the old and the infirm and assist them as needs be.

On the journey the drivers will sometimes announce that there is to be no eating on the bus. This is somewhat ignored, but the idea is to prevent the bus from getting littered with used wrappers and crumbs and spilled food, or the seats stained, and the majority of passengers respect that.

Have never, ever seen the pushing and shoving you describe. Honestly. Likewise at the airport at Puerto Plata, Santo Domingo, or Santiago have never seen any disorderly behavior in over one hundred times at the airport.

The only thing I would agree with is that at Santo Domingo it is a bit difficult to understand the overhead announcements due to distortion-the bus now boarding at platform muffle is the muffle bus to muffle" and so you tend to have people anxiously wandering about and checking if they are getting on the right bus.

I don't know if you just perceive things differently from me, or you just happened to fall in with a bad crowd.

[Frannie]

Which reminds me of the time I was at the Orange counter in the Playero in Sosua, and some 40 or 50 ish dom woman stepped in front of me and others while I was waiting. She was trying to get minutes put on her phone. I was pleased that the Orange rep ignored that ladies attempt to bogard the line, and took care of me after she finished with the previous customer. She made it clear to that woman that she had to wait. The look on that womans face was priceless. She just knew she was going to get serviced ahead of everybody else.
It was reasonable that she was asked to wait, but when you have situations where there are customers with different needs, like 1) adding more minutes, a quick cash transaction, and 2) choosing a new phone and setting up a contract, a lengthy process possible involving a larger sum of money, it does not make a whole lot of sense for the business to make the former wait in line for the latter, so it is the business model that is the problem.

I remember I used to buy minutes at the Orange counter in the Tropical Supermercado in Puerto Plata and this process involved two employees, one to ring up the cash and the other to take my phone and add the minutes. It would be frustrating to wait for another customer with some complex transaction only to find that their system for recharges was down today. The solution is automation and I believe Playero now has a self-service machine where customers can add minutes without bothering a customer service representative. If my memory is wrong, then there is certainly a self service machine at the Metro bus terminal across the road.