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Working Travlr
03-26-15, 16:53
Hi guys,
I live part time in the Dominican, not natural English spoken, therefore excuse my English, cold only visit destinations at daytime and don't like the zona colonial, therefore I prefer the gbp. Here a pic from may last visit, name is Luna, 21 years old, I like some meat at the bones, I don't vote or rate how a woman look like, I am interested in service, the service from Luna was OK not great.
I like to pay for woman, don't want a pussy for free an the trouble with it.I think she's beautiful. I don't like my women too large. She certainly isn't. Maybe I need to add GBP to my itinerary for at least 1 night.
Thanks for the board member who just posted the GBP pic. I'm going to be in the DR next week and I'm going to exclusively visit GBP for 2 or 3 days. Does anyone know if its open for Semana Santa? In fact are most of the girls in the DR going home for this holiday? Anyone with boots on the ground let me know about GBP especially. Thanks.
Showdown.
Visit yesterday, ask if they are open. Yes, perhaps less girls, because of the holiday.
Pic of the visit. Yesterday I want a black, service OK.
A quick refresher: My original plan was to spend a week at an AI in BC (includes chica), it's in the BC thread. After much research, I considered instead, a trip to the north coast, details to be found in the Sosua thread. After much thought I've decided to stick with my original plan and do the week in BC.
However, after more thought and research, plus much fishing on DC, I am almost certain I will be extending my stay to spend 5 nights in SD. I already have 3 hot prospects (2 non or semi pro, 1 pro) and another 5 that I'm working on. And if things fall apart I know where the Casas are.
I've seen all the hotel recommendations, but I'm leaning towards one I have not seen mentioned, Casa Sanchez Boutique Hotel. It's a block north of El Conde and right around the corner from Cafe 362 and Playboy Palace. I am looking for an upscale room for the non pros. Anyone know the guest policy. Their website says a charge may apply.
Http://www.casasanchez.Com
I will be in BC from April 21-27 and (probably) in SD from 27 to May 2, if anyone is around.
Does anyone know if the girls at GBP service couples (boyfriend+girlfriend)? If so, what are the rates?
Thanks,
Helpmann
If you have been paying attention you would know that BC basically sucks. It is hard to give you any advise because I do not know your skill set or experience level. How is your Spanish do you dance and what are you looking for. Managing internet girls takes time and has no guarantees. I think North coast would have been your best option because it is much less complicated. We often say here that SD is not for newbies. Narrow down your females to a point that you can manage them. Getting new pussy is very exciting so most guys make mistakes. You sound very pumped. Slooow down and take your time. Do not worry about impressing the girls. Let them worry about impressing you. I like the Reina Isabela hotel on El Conde. Very convenient and inexpensive.
On the North Coast you have 200 hot girls looking for you every night. I am going to be there the week you are in SD. I have girls meet me there but I take them to Caberreti for beach and night life. Excellent time. Only the special girls.
A quick refresher: My original plan was to spend a week at an AI in BC (includes chica), it's in the BC thread. After much research, I considered instead, a trip to the north coast, details to be found in the Sosua thread. After much thought I've decided to stick with my original plan and do the week in BC.
However, after more thought and research, plus much fishing on DC, I am almost certain I will be extending my stay to spend 5 nights in SD. I already have 3 hot prospects (2 non or semi pro, 1 pro) and another 5 that I'm working on. And if things fall apart I know where the Casas are.
I've seen all the hotel recommendations, but I'm leaning towards one I have not seen mentioned, Casa Sanchez Boutique Hotel. It's a block north of El Conde and right around the corner from Cafe 362 and Playboy Palace. I am looking for an upscale room for the non pros. Anyone know the guest policy. Their website says a charge may apply.
Http://www.casasanchez.Com
I will be in BC from April 21-27 and (probably) in SD from 27 to May 2, if anyone is around.
SavePros321
03-31-15, 15:59
A quick refresher: My original plan was to spend a week at an AI in BC (includes chica), it's in the BC thread. After much research, I considered instead, a trip to the north coast, details to be found in the Sosua thread. After much thought I've decided to stick with my original plan and do the week in BC.
However, after more thought and research, plus much fishing on DC, I am almost certain I will be extending my stay to spend 5 nights in SD. I already have 3 hot prospects (2 non or semi pro, 1 pro) and another 5 that I'm working on. And if things fall apart I know where the Casas are.
I've seen all the hotel recommendations, but I'm leaning towards one I have not seen mentioned, Casa Sanchez Boutique Hotel. It's a block north of El Conde and right around the corner from Cafe 362 and Playboy Palace. I am looking for an upscale room for the non pros. Anyone know the guest policy. Their website says a charge may apply.
Http://www.casasanchez.Com
I will be in BC from April 21-27 and (probably) in SD from 27 to May 2, if anyone is around.I just wanted to point out that this post is something that is becoming rare on this forum: the OP came to us seeking questions to much of the things he's already researched. In other words, he Read The Fucking Forum (RTFF)!
He didn't come on here bitching and complaining about having to "wade through bullshit" in order to find useful information. All of what I read tells me he spent significant time (which was probably no more than an afternoon with a cold beer) looking through all of the information here (data) and coming to his own conclusions (analysis). Anything he wasn't clear on, he came here to ask.
I applaud him for this. Basic analysis is a skill lost on this generation of the "gimme gimme NOW" mindset.
If you have been paying attention you would know that BC basically sucks. It is hard to give you any advise because I do not know your skill set or experience level. How is your Spanish do you dance and what are you looking for. Managing internet girls takes time and has no guarantees. I think North coast would have been your best option because it is much less complicated. We often say here that SD is not for newbies. Narrow down your females to a point that you can manage them. Getting new pussy is very exciting so most guys make mistakes. You sound very pumped. Slooow down and take your time. Do not worry about impressing the girls. Let them worry about impressing you. I like the Reina Isabela hotel on El Conde. Very convenient and inexpensive.
On the North Coast you have 200 hot girls looking for you every night. I am going to be there the week you are in SD. I have girls meet me there but I take them to Caberreti for beach and night life. Excellent time. Only the special girls.I don't really need any help with BC, For that part I have my reasons, and I will give a full report while I'm there.
I've been paying attention, went 101 pages back and read every post, covering almost 2 years. Hell, I'm still waiting to find out if you ever managed the 3 some with the sisters, I know you've had your share of both, but did you ever make the Doublemint gum commercial with them?
As for dancing, I am long out of practice. In my younger days I could clear the dance floor, everyone would just step back and watch. Now I probably dance like an old white guy, maybe not that bad. My Spanish is weak, but improving, I'm working on it.
Now, when it comes to managing Internet girls, I am pretty confident, I've been doing it for 24 years and have had plenty of success, although it's been limited to the US. When I constantly traveled the US, I usually had someone lined up before I arrived, many became regulars. It was different, they just wanted some good loving for a few days. So, I had a place to stay, home cooked meals and a local guide. With some it was just a date, and nothing more, but that's fun too.
My reasons for wanting to spend some time in SD are, in order of importance:
1. Sightseeing, I'm a bit of a history buff and want to see some of the sites.
2. Get a feel for the city. I spent 10 non-mongering days (except for a massage) in Bogota last year, just walking the streets, riding the Transmilenio and hanging out with my friend there, and loved it. On a side note, my friend, a stunning 20 year old (that I could bed, but I don't want to risk a truly incredible and unique friendship), just told me that one of her friends is an independent prepago, and between them, they can keep me supplied with university girls, next time. If I hadn't already bought the tickets.
3. Hook up with a few more chicas.
The first two, I can manage. The internet is my friend. I know when to smile and look like the world's friendliest man, and I know when to look like a mistake you don't want to make. The third, I think I've read enough to avoid the obvious mistakes. The Internet girls I will meet and decide whether they rate the hotel or a cabana, or a quick lunch and $200 DOP for a ride home.
Thanks to all the advice here, I know to always ask for price upfront. I made that mistake in Bogota and the driver tried to turn a $25 ride into $60, fortunately the hotel doorman intervened.
My main hope is to find some info about Casa Sanchez, the TripAdvisor reviews are incredible, but that's only part of the story. If I don't land there, Reina Ysabel is my choice, based on your reports. And there's still a fair chance I'll change my mind again and catch the Metro to Sosua. If I do, I'll let you know. No matter what, I'll give a report.
Mr Enternational
04-01-15, 05:22
My reasons for wanting to spend some time in SD are, in order of importance:
1. Sightseeing, I'm a bit of a history buff and want to see some of the sites.After 10 years of never seeing the sites of Santo Domingo, I finally wake up on Monday February 9 and decide to hit the sightseeing trail. All the museums were closed.
I don't really need any help with BC, For that part I have my reasons, and I will give a full report while I'm there.
I've been paying attention, went 101 pages back and read every post, covering almost 2 years. Hell, I'm still waiting to find out if you ever managed the 3 some with the sisters, I know you've had your share of both, but did you ever make the Doublemint gum commercial with them?
As for dancing, I am long out of practice. In my younger days I could clear the dance floor, everyone would just step back and watch. Now I probably dance like an old white guy, maybe not that bad. My Spanish is weak, but improving, I'm working on it.
Now, when it comes to managing Internet girls, I am pretty confident, I've been doing it for 24 years and have had plenty of success, although it's been limited to the US. When I constantly traveled the US, I usually had someone lined up before I arrived, many became regulars. It was different, they just wanted some good loving for a few days. So, I had a place to stay, home cooked meals and a local guide. With some it was just a date, and nothing more, but that's fun too.
My reasons for wanting to spend some time in SD are, in order of importance:
1. Sightseeing, I'm a bit of a history buff and want to see some of the sites.
2. Get a feel for the city. I spent 10 non-mongering days (except for a massage) in Bogota last year, just walking the streets, riding the Transmilenio and hanging out with my friend there, and loved it. On a side note, my friend, a stunning 20 year old (that I could bed, but I don't want to risk a truly incredible and unique friendship), just told me that one of her friends is an independent prepago, and between them, they can keep me supplied with university girls, next time. If I hadn't already bought the tickets.
3. Hook up with a few more chicas..Smart dude, first of all let me say the only mistakes you have made is with your dates. Four days in BC during the mid-week is a no go. You will get bored after two days, here's a better itinerary for you. Spend the 21st and 22nd in BC to get the feel of it, you will get bored after two days. Catch the metro bus to Sosua on the 23rd or sooner to hook up with me and a few other guys who will be in Sosua and just hangout with us till the 27th. This way you can break two places in at one trip. Then head to SD and do your easy thing because you will be worn out by then. Also one of my boys is driving to SD then from Sosua and might like the company for the ride.
SD is great if you know how to work it. The sightseeing thing is actually a great way to meet chicas in SD, most guys aren't that creative. Girls in SD loves guys that they think are normal and not pressing the P4P play aspect. We will give you the scoop on SD when we see you.
Its funny you mention Bogota because they have been sending me fare alerts for the last two months for 228 rt, but I hate to fly Spiritair. You were smart in playing the "good guy" role with your Bogota chica because she is now opening up her friends to you. If you don't like her friends you can always fall back to her by saying"I'm looking for a girl like you" which will make her step up.
I commend you for going back and doing your research. But Boca is easy, SD is not, so you need some real intel on SD that real guys know. I see you never asked about GPB which shows me much about you. GPB to me is when you don't have other options or are just bored and want to kill an afternoon.
The sisters are still a factor in my game. But never considered a 3 some. They are aware tha.
I have dealt with both. I enjoy them.
I don't really need any help with BC, For that part I have my reasons, and I will give a full report while I'm there.
I've been paying attention, went 101 pages back and read every post, covering almost 2 years. Hell, I'm still waiting to find out if you ever managed the 3 some with the sisters, I know you've had your share of both, but did you ever make the Doublemint gum commercial with them?
As for dancing, I am long out of practice. In my younger days I could clear the dance floor, everyone would just step back and watch. Now I probably dance like an old white guy, maybe not that bad. My Spanish is weak, but improving, I'm working on it.
Now, when it comes to managing Internet girls, I am pretty confident, I've been doing it for 24 years and have had plenty of success, although it's been limited to the US. When I constantly traveled the US, I usually had someone lined up before I arrived, many became regulars. It was different, they just wanted some good loving for a few days. So, I had a place to stay, home cooked meals and a local guide. With some it was just a date, and nothing more, but that's fun too.
My reasons for wanting to spend some time in SD are, in order of importance:
1. Sightseeing, I'm a bit of a history buff and want to see some of the sites.
2. Get a feel for the city. I spent 10 non-mongering days (except for a massage) in Bogota last year, just walking the streets, riding the Transmilenio and hanging out with my friend there, and loved it. On a side note, my friend, a stunning 20 year old (that I could bed, but I don't want to risk a truly incredible and unique friendship), just told me that one of her friends is an independent prepago, and between them, they can keep me supplied with university girls, next time. If I hadn't already bought the tickets.
3. Hook up with a few more chicas.
The first two, I can manage. The internet is my friend. I know when to smile and look like the world's friendliest man, and I know when to look like a mistake you don't want to make. The third, I think I've read enough to avoid the obvious mistakes. The Internet girls I will meet and decide whether they rate the hotel or a cabana, or a quick lunch and $200 DOP for a ride home.
Thanks to all the advice here, I know to always ask for price upfront. I made that mistake in Bogota and the driver tried to turn a $25 ride into $60, fortunately the hotel doorman intervened.
My main hope is to find some info about Casa Sanchez, the TripAdvisor reviews are incredible, but that's only part of the story. If I don't land there, Reina Ysabel is my choice, based on your reports. And there's still a fair chance I'll change my mind again and catch the Metro to Sosua. If I do, I'll let you know. No matter what, I'll give a report.
The sisters are normal girls. Being with them is relaxing and fun. They know about each other and one is miffed. I think soon I will have to cut bait but it has been fun. Real GFE trumps most sport fucking in the long run. I was talking to a friend of one of my girls who ran a salon in Sosua who now lives in SD. She would not come to North Coast to meet with me. She said to many putas.
The sisters are still a factor in my game. But never considered a 3 some. They are aware tha.
I have dealt with both. I enjoy them.
After 10 years of never seeing the sites of Santo Domingo, I finally wake up on Monday February 9 and decide to hit the sightseeing trail. All the museums were closed.My luck usually runs the other way. Years ago, a bunch of friends all piled in my car and we headed down to Puerto Nuevo, in BC, Mexico. It's a tiny town between Tijuana and Ensenada, that is just a bunch of restaurants serving lobster. Other than a few stands selling souvenir crap, that's all their is.
We get there and all the restaurants are closed because it's Cinco de Mayo. There was a free lobster buffet with free tequila and a stage set up where local school children performed traditional dances. Spent the afternoon enjoying a great cultural experience.
To top it off, one friend was a cop from Ontario, California. As soon as he showed his badge to the local police, they were our best friends.
I'm not too worried about being bored in BC midweek. That part of the trip I will be wifed up and will probably spend the slow days doing some of the tours, catamaran cruise, trip to Saona Island, maybe a day trip to SD or Juan Dolio. It's a package deal, expensive, but I decided to stay with it for the experience. The BC thread has more info.
I still might head to Sosua on the 27th. Right now it depends on 2 things, if I get my sightseeing done while I'm in BC, and if a very hot non pro I'm working on is going to commit for an overnight. If she cools on me, my plans are open.
Bogota, to me is a great place. Bring a light jacket and enjoy the climate. No a / see or heat in the hotels because you don't need it. My friend there. I'd pop in 30 seconds and then die from a heart attack trying for the second shot.
If I head north I will let you know. I'd enjoy the chance to hang with a few of the legends.
I don't really need any help with BC, For that part I have my reasons, and I will give a full report while I'm there.
Now, when it comes to managing Internet girls, I am pretty confident, I've been doing it for 24 years and have had plenty of success, although it's been limited to the US.
.In fact you even did it before Berners Lee punblished the first photo on the WWW and before the WWW was publicly available in the U S. Impressive.
Having internet girls is a good way to do SD. My first foray into SD I had DC girls who I still have contact with 3 years later. Just make sure you are clear about your expectations. I used Skype to break the ice and make sure the product was as advertised. The only problem is that very often they will hit you up for money. Popi this and that.
My preference are the semi pros. They will not try to make you a husband who is sole support for them. If you are going to spend a few days with one of them negotiate a gift that will make them happy. A used phone special perfume. This makes them feel less like a puta and solves the giving of cash problem. They all want cash but many do not want to be prostitutes. A game they play. Last thing to enjoy SD work on your Spanish.
In fact you even did it before Berners Lee punblished the first photo on the WWW and before the WWW was publicly available in the U S. Impressive.
Mr Enternational
04-02-15, 16:55
In fact you even did it before Berners Lee punblished the first photo on the WWW and before the WWW was publicly available in the U S. Impressive.I think it was my junior year of college (1993/94) when I started hearing a buzz from the computer science majors about something called email that would be able to be used throughout the school. In 1997 I opened my first yahoo screen name and 1998 for AOL. If Jj has been putting it down on internet chicks since 1991 then he is indeed a bad man!*
I have been on internet chicks since 1998 in AOL chatrooms. Before that I was getting at them by accessing chat lines by telephone using bootleg calling cards. Back then you would either mail pictures to each other through the post office or do the blind thing.
*Disclaimer: I do remember being able to chat with people in chatrooms through a modem on my Commodore 64 back in 1986/87, but there were no websites nor emails to speak of back then. You just connected and it was pot luck.
In fact you even did it before Berners Lee punblished the first photo on the WWW and before the WWW was publicly available in the U S. Impressive.I did it 2 different ways when I first started. The first was through local BBS's (Bulletin Board Systems). These were mostly small systems for posting messages, sending emails and chatting. The majority only had the ability for one caller at a time, meaning you could only chat with the SysOp, others had multiple phone lines, many with 16 lines or more. The other option was through national systems such as Genie, Prodigy and Compuserve.
Later, after the WWW took off, I was meeting women in CUSeeMe reflectors (a video chat room where multiple people broadcast live video). Even later I began using different dating websites. A couple of years ago I ended up chatting with an old CUSeeMe user and he kept bringing up names of different women he had chatted with. He would mention a name and I'd respond, "met her in New Jersey", "Always stayed at her place in Phoenix", "Met her in. " They weren't all 9's and 10's, although a couple were. Most were 5-7, lonely wives, divorcees, career women with no time to date, plus a few nymphos looking for a new option. Some were not that attractive to me, but I was in my 20's and 30's, the little head didn't play favorites.
A few years back, I stopped playing the online game. Just about everyone wanted a husband and I got tired of telling the same lies just to get a little, plus my appeal in the states no longer reaches down to the age range I prefer. With the DC girls I tell them no busco una relacion seria, but their greed keeps them writing to me. I'll be more than happy to let a 23 year old spend 2 days trying to change my mind.
I think it was my junior year of college (1993/94) when I started hearing a buzz from the computer science majors about something called email that would be able to be used throughout the school. In 1997 I opened my first yahoo screen name and 1998 for AOL. If Jj has been putting it down on internet chicks since 1991 then he is indeed a bad man!*
I have been on internet chicks since 1998 in AOL chatrooms. Before that I was getting at them by accessing chat lines by telephone using bootleg calling cards. Back then you would either mail pictures to each other through the post office or do the blind thing.
*Disclaimer: I do remember being able to chat with people in chatrooms through a modem on my Commodore 64 back in 1986/87, but there were no websites nor emails to speak of back then. You just connected and it was pot luck.Late 1989 or early 90 I replaced my old Apple IIE with an 80286 running ms-dos 3. 3. By the beginning of 91 I was running my own local, single line BBS and I was active on the multi line systems in San Diego. There were 3 main ones, SDC (The San Diego Connection), Rendezvous and Sin City. At some point that year a friend who ran a similar system to mine sent one of his users to my board. She was a certified nymphomaniac. I was tempted, took a chance and met her. She turned out to be a cute redheaded spinner with a bubble butt and a need for sex.
That opened my eyes to the possibilities. I got involved in the chat rooms, and it was something I was good at. I could flirt, without sounding like a come on, I could get people talking and I could make them laugh. The 3 big systems each had a weekly meet and greet, so I started going. I would chat with everyone on line, get them to come to the meet and greet and take my pick.
That lasted until 94 when I moved to Albuquerque to set up a multi line system for a guy who wanted to be the porn version of AOL. He owned about 20 adult bookstores and peep shows. He didn't understand what was needed, so the project collapsed. About that time the web was taking off, and the days of BBS'S were over.
In the early days, no pictures, no videos, just whatever description the person gave. I got pretty good at telling the fakes from the real people. There were a few that I missed the call on. One, who went by Dollface. Remember Chucky from the "Child's Play" horror movies. The other big mistake was a pair of sisters, very attractive, long hair, one blonde, one brunette, very well built. They were well built, I'm pretty sure they could have withstood a hurricane. They were very attractive, but so is a train wreck. They also had long hair, but when it's growing out of warts, it loses it's appeal.
I've taken the 7 days at the place in BC off my schedule. I don't expect to be closer to BC than the airport. Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Peñalba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.
After that I'm off to Santiago for 2 or 3 days. I have another who is either a nympho or semi pro lined up there. That might work into a 3 way, but haven't worked the details out yet.
From Santiago, I'm heading to Sosua for a few days. Probably get there April 28.
Thanks to everyone for all the different advice. Maybe I can do this without screwing up.
There is not much to do in Sd during the week but having a live in date will help. 4 days is a long time to be with a fuck buddy. I usually want them gone after 2. El Conde has plenty of scammers so be careful. You can do the movies at the mall and casinos for entertainment. Hope her English is decent so you can do not get to bored. Having a positive attitude is key to having a good time.
I've taken the 7 days at the place in BC off my schedule. I don't expect to be closer to BC than the airport. Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Pealba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.
After that I'm off to Santiago for 2 or 3 days. I have another who is either a nympho or semi pro lined up there. That might work into a 3 way, but haven't worked the details out yet.
From Santiago, I'm heading to Sosua for a few days. Probably get there April 28.
Thanks to everyone for all the different advice. Maybe I can do this without screwing up.
There is not much to do in Sd during the week but having a live in date will help. 4 days is a logng time to be with a fuck buddy. I usually want them gone after 2. El Conde has plenty of scammers so be careful. Cab drivers being the key scammers in SD. If someone is real friendly and speaks good English look out. You can do the movies at the malls which are excellent or casinos for entertainment. Hope her English is decent so you do not get to bored. Practise your basic words and you will do well. I enjoy having coffee at Grands /Pacos. A great place to watch the seen and often street walkers posting. Having a positive attitude is key to having a good time.
I've taken the 7 days at the place in BC off my schedule. I don't expect to be closer to BC than the airport. Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Pealba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.
After that I'm off to Santiago for 2 or 3 days. I have another who is either a nympho or semi pro lined up there. That might work into a 3 way, but haven't worked the details out yet.
From Santiago, I'm heading to Sosua for a few days. Probably get there April 28.
Thanks to everyone for all the different advice. Maybe I can do this without screwing up.
Mr Enternational
04-04-15, 21:25
Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Pealba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.Most would say it is a bad move committing 5 days to a chick that you do not know. They would probably also rail on you for having a chick commit 5 days of her life to you and upon meeting her and her "not making the cut" you diss her, especially with her being a non-pro.
SavePros321
04-04-15, 22:11
Most would say it is a bad move committing 5 days to a chick that you do not know.There was a forum member here that would agree. He posted this not too long ago:
Picked up Yarnira from Huigey. This one was also prearranged bike night number two from Dominican Cupid. 23 years old and talked an excellent game about doing everything, loves give oral and take it anally! All she stated she wanted was make up and three bottles of perfume from the US. Picked her up and on the way back to Boca Chica (1.5 hour ride) I should've known immediately that she was kind of a slob by the way she tore off her fake nails and threw them on the floor of the rental car. WTF I decided to hit La Ramona to see the sights and grab a bite to eat. Did not see much that appealed except an Italian restaurant. As soon as we hit La Ramona it was papi take me shopping, take me shopping. I said NO, lesson learned from night two. These chicas just want as much as they can get. She finally excepted the fact I was not taking her shopping after 10 minutes. It was a long ride, so I figured I would test her game and get some road head. She claimed she would not because it would be a distraction for me driving. Okay I had agree with that one, there are some crazy drivers here. She said as soon as we got to the hotel it would be no problem. As soon as we get to the hotel she was reluctant. WTF! She was like how much the narrow are you going to give me. I was like, hey I brought you the gift she wanted, I can take you home right now I don't care but no money! She knew I was a little pissed and told me to hit the bed and she began to work her best. BBBJ was fair and she tried to be extremely sensitive. Eventually she was too hot and wanted some herself. I had brought an HIV test kit because if she was given up the ass I wanted it uncovered. We grab the kit 20 minutes later results were negative. She began to question me to ensure I had taken test and I told her of course that's why I wanted you to have one. We started to get the business and she began to get extremely crazy with the hip action. She must've thought this was the best way to finish the job. It was too crazy. I decided it was time to go bare and hit the anal! She was not able to accomplish the task, claiming pene "tu mucho grande" Hahahaha ok my fault, I thought you said you could!! Nonetheless completed the task and it was about 8:30, still pretty early. Decided to run the store grab some beer and make it an evening in. My guest determined it was time for me to take her out on the town, the evening already was not as promised so I was not putting in any more then I had to. She wanted an elegant dinner and then the disco. She eventually gave him for Burger King and beer on the patio hahahaha. Throughout the evening she kept wanting use me as a footstool and often asked for me to "fetch" her one thing and another, my phone, more beer, and a few other rude things but I forget what they were. This was on top of her being a slob leaving trash throughout the hotel and just make a general mess of everything she touched. As we started to turn in she jumped in the shower. Immediately she came out and wanted more sexo! I said okay it's about time she kicked in for some extra action, but again no " chupar papi pene" WTF! She claimed before that she wanted mucho Leche and did it all. In every hole. Whatever. Afterwards I decided to crash and she decided to watch television. To my dismay she changed channels damn near as fast as you could push the button on the remote. Continuously. I often had to tell her to turn it down because she kept turning the volume up to a ridiculous level. Okay next comes the morning. I awake to a slightly gentle but extremely irritating multiple slap to the face. Again WTF! Here at 6 o'clock in the morning and she wants me to get up and turn on the television because the remote doesn't work anymore and wants me to run to Burger King to get her some breakfast! This is it's fucking crazy, but she Medledy turned it to being nice and kissing my neck and trying to make things better. I got up made me some coffee and send the next room for a while. She again asked for breakfast, I told her in a little while I was going to take shower. She mentioned I did not have to drive her home but she would take the bus. My previous night 1000RD bus fare taught me a lesson to ask about the price from a trusted friend. He mentioned the bus fare was 250. What a deal and I don't have to drive her back. I agreed and quickly ran to Burger King to get fucking breakfast and change to get her on the road! After breakfast she started asking about If I liked her poor mother and if I could give her 3000 pesos to be nice to her mom. Again what the fuck! I told her I had enough. This was about the 10th time she asked for additional money for different items. This time I told her I was done to grab the bus fare and go outside the gate and catch the bus!
Lessons learned;.
1) All these bitches want money!
2) They all have a game plan on how to acquire your money! Even my ex novia in Santiago!
3) If you haven't met them in person. Expect the worst personality.
4) I personally would prefer to spend 1500-2000 for a working girl on Duarte ave, afterwords tell them to leave!
5) If you invite someone from another city, thinking they'll be staying for the night. It might not be a good night!
6) The autobus stop is 20 feet out of Villa Capri's front gate, get lost!
Most would say it is a bad move committing 5 days to a chick that you do not know. They would probably also rail on you for having a chick commit 5 days of her life to you and upon meeting her and her "not making the cut" you diss her, especially with her being a non-pro.Technically it will be 4 days, but I do agree with you. However, I put it to her as an option. Told her the days I will be in the hotel, and asked which days she wanted to come spend with me. I also told her there are no expectations. If we are both happy, it's all good, but if either one isn't happy, we can walk away with no problems, no hard feelings.
I'm fairly sure she's into the right things, but then I'm pretty easy. I don't do anal, but I'm a big fan of oral, more giving than receiving. I am not into CIM, COF, COB etc. No real extreme kinks for me. Now if she was a pro, I would have to discuss everything that is offered, but for this, it's simply GFE. My preference, but not everyone's cup of tea.
I wanted a few days to play tourist in SD. This gives me 3 full days with a native guide. Although she lives elsewhere she grew up in SD and her family lives there.
Maybe it will be a mistake, then I will agree I should have listened. Everyone will know in about 3 weeks.
Teebone had a rough time. I hope my experience is better, we shall see.
There is one thing in that report I wanted to point out. He uses the Home HIV test kit because if she does anal, he wants it uncovered. That's like using hand sanitizer before you play Russian Roulette.
The Home HIV test kit is pretty accurate under certain conditions, with a disclaimer. If the person is definitely HIV negative it will only show a false positive in about 1 of 5000 uses. That's pretty good. However, in cases where the person actually is HIV positive, it will show them to be negative in 1 of 12 cases. That's not so good. Now the disclaimer: It takes up to 3 months after a person is infected with HIV before they will test positive, and can take as long as 6 months, even though the person is capable of infecting others. So a positive test result, you can be fairly certain is reliable. However, a negative test result means next to nothing.
In my opinion (admittedly I am not into anal, an ex demanded uncovered anal one night while I had her doggy. I said no, she insisted. I pulled out, got dressed, never been back.), uncovered anal is too risky, especially with someone who claims to enjoy anal, in a country with a high HIV infection rate.
I am planning my next trip and I should have gone to SD. I have two ladies from there that do not want to come to Sosua. One lady used to have a salon there and will not step foot in the place now. I could not get her to even consider Cabereti. I am really curious if she would want money from me. The other is a friend of an old girl friend.
Member #4643
04-08-15, 12:30
Teebone had a rough time. I hope my experience is better, we shall see.
There is one thing in that report I wanted to point out. He uses the Home HIV test kit because if she does anal, he wants it uncovered. That's like using hand sanitizer before you play Russian Roulette.
The Home HIV test kit is pretty accurate under certain conditions, with a disclaimer. If the person is definitely HIV negative it will only show a false positive in about 1 of 5000 uses. That's pretty good. However, in cases where the person actually is HIV positive, it will show them to be negative in 1 of 12 cases. That's not so good. Now the disclaimer: It takes up to 3 months after a person is infected with HIV before they will test positive, and can take as long as 6 months, even though the person is capable of infecting others. So a positive test result, you can be fairly certain is reliable. However, a negative test result means next to nothing.
In my opinion (admittedly I am not into anal, an ex demanded uncovered anal one night while I had her doggy. I said no, she insisted. I pulled out, got dressed, never been back.), uncovered anal is too risky, especially with someone who claims to enjoy anal, in a country with a high HIV infection rate.I like the analogy to the hand sanitizer and Russian Roulette. I will have to use it someday!
I have read that transmission from female to male during uncovered anal intercourse is much lower than MALE to FEMALE transmission. And, while MALE to FEMALE transmission during anal is pretty high, the difference between uncovered anal and uncovered vaginal FEMALE to MALE transmission is minimal. It gets confusing, but suffice it to say, if she wanted you to do her ass bareback, she was the one taking the big risk, not you.
The data on these rates of transmission were mostly done before antiretroviral therapy was good. There is actually pre exposure prophylaxis one can take prior to sex that has some efficacy (oral Truvada was about 90% effective if you take it every day; this would be worth it if you had a regular who you knew was infected, but then again, you would have to be crazy not to use condoms).
I like the analogy to the hand sanitizer and Russian Roulette. I will have to use it someday!
I have read that transmission from female to male during uncovered anal intercourse is much lower than MALE to FEMALE transmission. And, while MALE to FEMALE transmission during anal is pretty high, the difference between uncovered anal and uncovered vaginal FEMALE to MALE transmission is minimal. It gets confusing, but suffice it to say, if she wanted you to do her ass bareback, she was the one taking the big risk, not you.
The data on these rates of transmission were mostly done before antiretroviral therapy was good. There is actually pre exposure prophylaxis one can take prior to sex that has some efficacy (oral Truvada was about 90% effective if you take it every day; this would be worth it if you had a regular who you knew was infected, but then again, you would have to be crazy not to use condoms).I agree with the crazy not to use condoms, and you're correct that with HIV it's easier to give than to receive. Of course that's not the only problem to worry about, there's also hepatitis.
Keep it covered, avoid the skanks and the addicts, and reduce your risks as much as possible.
Camaro1257
04-09-15, 21:16
Camaro's synopsis on Santo Domingo April 2015.
I have recently returned from a 2 day excursion to Santo Domingo from the north coast. Now that I live in the Dominican Republic my objective is to explore as much of the Island as possible and one of the greatest places to experience Dominican culture is in La Capital.
I have attached my notes for your review.
The Dominican Republic is on Small Island but its big country.
My intention this year was to travel to Cuba it is one of the major Latin American countries I have not visited. Although I have travelled extensively throughout the Dominican Republic from the white sandy beaches of Punta Cana to the mountains of Jarabacoa there is so much more to see from Higuey to Semana therefore I will concentrate the rest of this year to exploring the Dominican Republic and possibly travel to Cuba next year.
E-Mongering.
I didn't work the internet hard this trip but I had a Facebook and Dominican Cupid contact that were going to be the focus of my trip. The Facebook chica flaked on me but I made a good connection with the Dominican Cupid chica.
The largest concentration of women on the Dominican dating web sites are from Santo Domingo therefore there is much hunting a hunter can do.
Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel –El Conde why Esquina Calle Espaillat.
This is a 2 star hotel at best its location is obscure but can be found at the corner of El Conde and Calle Espaillat. You go through a wood door and walk up 2 flights of steps and have to be buzzed in by the receptionist. I hope you speak Spanish because she speaks no English.
The room is old and worn with only 1 towel despite the fact I booked for 2. The walls were stained and the bed felt like I was sitting on a board and springs. There was a safe with key and the cable worked well but the little 18 inch flat screen TV could hardly be seen.
There were only (2) 3 prong electrical outlets I could use for my laptop that were next to the refrigerator. The WIFI was intermittent.
The highlight of the room is the balcony that gives you a view of El Conde.
Dominican efficiency.
I arrived at Carribe Tours in Santo Domingo and took a taxi to the hotel. The taxi driver didn't know exactly where it was. The taxi supervisor quoted me 250 pesos but when I arrived at El Conde the taxista asked for 200 pesos. The entrance to the hotel is obscured so I couldn't find it. I walked to the corner and asked the CESTUR officer where it was and he did not know. Really the tourist police doesn't know where a tourist hotel is REALLY?
He flagged a taxista down at the corner and the taxista said he knew where it was. I asked "cuanto es?" he said "250 pesos" I walked away from him and in 2 minutes I found the hotel which was right behing where the first taxista dropped me off.
Dama Imperial Restaurant.
The Dama Imperial Restaurant is downstairs from the Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. You can sit inside or outside on Calle El Conde. The music was contemporary rock and the breeze on El Conde was very comfortable. It was late in the evening when I ate so some of my menu selections were unavailable. I had my favorite mero a la plancha with a nice garlic sauce. It was light and not filling but tasty.
My waitress wasn't the nicest person in the world but over all I would return since the food was and the location were decent.
Cosmo Centro El Calle El Conde.
I was supposed to have a date later on in the evening so I decided to get a haircut and a shave. I walked by Cosmo Centro on El Conde a few steps from Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. I asked for a cut and a shave I asked "cuanto es?" he responds "500 pesos" I respond "no yo pago 300 pesos en Puerto Plata" (I pay $20.00 in the States for a haircut and shave) he frowns with an ugly face and says "tah bien".
I get the cut and shave then he starts putting some stuff on my face and massaging my face I must admit it was feeling good but while the treatment was on my face I saw him writing something down so I asked "va cobrame por este?" "then he says "tu cara es sucio" and I said "pero solo pido por un cotar why avieatarse!" then he says "tanquillo" and puts a mask on me.
After about 5 minutes with this mask on I know this is not going to end well. I said "oye tengo un cita!" he hurries and cleans me up. Then he presents me a bill for 1500 pesos. I said "no pido por este!" "si va dar mas servico tu nesista preguntar el cliente" he goes on in Spanish "blah blah blah!
I said "llamar la polica!" Then a lady comes over I guess she is the boss and says I have to pay! I raised my voice again and said "llamar la policía!" The she looks and me and said "no necisita la policia page lo que quieres" I gave her 400 pesos and walked out.
* The funny thing about this episode is my face feels and looks better.
Anyways if you're on Calle Conde in Santo Domingo beware of the up sell.
Rumba Bar & Café Calle 27 Febero.
Guess who whatsapp's me when I am with Ms San Cristobal? Yes it's Santo Domingo Chica#1. So I told her give me a couple of hours since I knew I was on the long game with MSC and I wouldn't be smashing. Again she gives me another lame excuse so it's time to hang with the fellas.
Rumba Bar & Café is a nice spot although it's pretty small inside. There is a stage for live entertainment, my understanding Omega was there recently. There is a bar and DJ booth where the DJ plays American and Latin music. I understand there is a kitchen however I did not eat anything so I cannot speak to the menu. The walls were covered with mirrors and flat screen TVs.
There are waitresses and hostesses. Their job is to hustle drinks and it's a pretty good business model. I was a drinker I would have spent a little more money than buying a container of fruit punch. If a hostess sits with you you are supposed to buy her drinks and give her a propina at the end of your time together. I believe they get commissions off the drinks but I do not know how much. The chicas are not straight PFP and there is no salida however my understanding is they are available after work or another time for those clients they want to spend time with.
I enjoyed the spot. There was no pressure just a laid back atmosphere with some eye candy. It was no hooters but close. Some of the women wore shorts and t-shirts and some wore regular street clothes. There was about 2 8's in a group of a dozen but my understanding it was a slow night.
Over all it was a nice spot especially for someone who likes to drink however your tab can add up quite quickly as the chicas are encouraging you to drink.
Oasis Bar on Calle Dr Baez down the street from the Presidential Palace (5 minutes from Calle El Conde).
If you don't know where this place is you will never find it. It's in a non-descript building with no signage. You walk down 2 flights of steps and walk into a club with a dance floor a bar stripper pole and several couches around the walls.
This is a casa de cita with a few rooms but I am not sure how many. The ladies come out and surround you just like Crystals in Puerto Plata and the talent is just as good if not better. All the women I saw we 7's quite a few 8's. I mean some real model looking chicas and of course there was some plastic in the house.
The prices quoted were all over the place and I got the impression at one point the chicas were freelancers. I got 4 k take out for 2 hours. 5 K in house with a room for 2 hours but one chica said 1 leche unless there was a propina. Then one said 8 k for TLN outside in your hotel with 2 leches. The price structure made no sense.
I talked to the hefe and he stayed between 3 k and 3. 5 k for 2 hours with the chica. I didn't care too much for the spot or the vacillating prices but the women were absolutely gorgeous! If you do your business there are taxis waiting outside and the spot is about 5 minutes from Calle El Conde but I have no idea where it Is exactly.
Closing thoughts Santo Domingo.
The purpose of my trip was to break my monotony of Sosua and try something different. I do not particularly care for large cities since I have lived in them for most of my life I would like something different in retirement. I have been to Santo Domingo before and I did not care for it because of a feeling of being out of place when I am there. If I had a choice I would choose Santiago over Santo Domingo not just because it is closer to the north coast but I feel more comfortable there.
Despite my disinterest Santo Domingo is rich in opportunities for diversity therefore I can see making multiple trips to experience what it has to offer. Below I have listed some of my observations of Santo Domingo:
•Taxistas see you as their next meal and they will try to take advantage of you. Always be clear about what you want where you want to go and how much it is going to cost. If you have a trusted driver or drivers that is even better.
•Calle El Conde is a great place to eat, window shop and overall take in the sites but it is a tourist trap and there are plenty of people who are waiting to upsell you and try to take advantage of the unsuspecting tourist. As always if you engage in any services negotiate the service and the price up front.
•Since Santo Domingo has the greatest populous of people it has the greatest concentration of women all shapes colors and sizes therefore it is worthy of my attention.
There are plenty of PFP options in Santo Domingo and I sampled a couple but one of my objectives for this excursion was to investigate some civilian non pro opportunities. I find civilian non pros much more work than straight PFP but more emotionally rewarding. One of my civilian prospects flaked on me however the other came through and I had a great time with her therefore I am looking forward to seeing her in the future.
I look forward to returning to Santo Domingo to see what else it has to offer.
I always enjoy your reports and it has been a while. I like SD but I always invite chicas to meet me there. The casaa are priced all over the place but the better places are expensive. Two or three times the price you pay in Sosua for same quality. El Conde is a tourist trap but some times you have to be what you are. I enjoy walking the street there and I have met some decent SWs there. Riena Isabella is not the most luxorius place in the world but for $35 a night it met my requirements very well. You can pay twice that amount for the same quality on El Conde. Every room is different.
I have written about the barber shop scam. They do it so often that they are surprised when they are pulled up. I have had one guy locked up by the tourista police and the other I walked out on. SD has some of the nicest malls I have ever seen. If you have chica to walk around with you, will enjoy the sites immensely. Once you learn the ropes a bit SD is big fun. I have some Dominican male friends who I can go clubbing with. This is a different experience.
For the first time I got a great price for a flight to Puerto Plata $511 RT. AS life would be I have three hot babes waiting in SD and two will not go to Sosua. The trifecta non pro, semi pro and a pro. I am debating catching the bus to SD for 2 days but not sure. If you take your time you can find what ever you want in Sosua.
Don't use them is my advice.
I can recommend two barber shops very near the Conde where a haircut costs 300 pesos including tip, or 400 pesos including a very generous tip. No scams, no hassles. One is on the corner of calle Santome and calle Mercedes, the other is on calle Mercedes just next to number 364 calle Mercedes, also known as "Bar 364", which operates as a massage parlor from time to time. Both barber shops are only one street north of the Conde.
I always enjoy your reports and it has been a while. I like SD but I always invite chicas to meet me there. The casaa are priced all over the place but the better places are expensive. Two or three times the price you pay in Sosua for same quality. El Conde is a tourist trap but some times you have to be what you are. I enjoy walking the street there and I have met some decent SWs there. Riena Isabella is not the most luxorius place in the world but for $35 a night it met my requirements very well. You can pay twice that amount for the same quality on El Conde. Every room is different.
I have written about the barber shop scam. They do it so often that they are surprised when they are pulled up. I have had one guy locked up by the tourista police and the other I walked out on. SD has some of the nicest malls I have ever seen. If you have chica to walk around with you, will enjoy the sites immensely. Once you learn the ropes a bit SD is big fun. I have some Dominican male friends who I can go clubbing with. This is a different experience.
For the first time I got a great price for a flight to Puerto Plata $511 RT. AS life would be I have three hot babes waiting in SD and two will not go to Sosua. The trifecta non pro, semi pro and a pro. I am debating catching the bus to SD for 2 days but not sure. If you take your time you can find what ever you want in Sosua.
BoricuaOnline
04-12-15, 03:10
Camaro's synopsis on Santo Domingo April 2015.
I look forward to returning to Santo Domingo to see what else it has to offer.Every Sunday by 7:00 pm there is outdoor live music on Ruinas de San Francisco de Asis area. It is a couple of blocks away from La Atarazana area. I knew of this place from a lady I spent a full week with her, a very pretty and intelligent 23 yr Santiago girl. The area is closed to traffic. They put a couple of hundred plastic chairs for people to enjoy the show. The show lasts 3 hours. It is a nice area of colonial zone.
Mr Enternational
04-12-15, 04:40
Every Sunday by 7:00 pm there is outdoor live music on Ruinas de San Francisco de Asis area.It is great, but can be hell when you drove and it's time to leave.
Troubleman69
04-12-15, 12:53
Every Sunday by 7:00 pm there is outdoor live music on Ruinas de San Francisco de Asis area.I heard about this. Maybe I'll check it out on my next trip.
You must park down the hill on Mercedes or along Merino, or in one of the lots off the Plaza Espana. The bottleneck when the concerts end is insane.
It is great, but can be hell when you drove and it's time to leave.
Bar 359/ building number 359 on Mercedes, I meant to write.
Don't use them is my advice.
I can recommend two barber shops very near the Conde where a haircut costs 300 pesos including tip, or 400 pesos including a very generous tip. No scams, no hassles. One is on the corner of calle Santome and calle Mercedes, the other is on calle Mercedes just next to number 364 calle Mercedes, also known as "Bar 364", which operates as a massage parlor from time to time. Both barber shops are only one street north of the Conde.
Does anybody know if metro bus station in santo domingo have wifi available for costumers?
BoricuaOnline
04-18-15, 01:09
Does anybody know if metro bus station in santo domingo have wifi available for costumers?Yes, they have.
I know where to find the Shuttle Bus in SDQ, but I'm curious where it goes in Santo Domingo? I suppose anywhere away from the taxi mafia is a bonus.
Anyone know the route?
Yes, they have.However do not rely too much on it to make Skype calls etc. As it may be very slow and signal will come and go.
However do not rely too much on it to make Skype calls etc. As it may be very slow and signal will come and go.I am planning to visit Puerto Plata next month. A woman from Santo Domingo wants to meet me and to come with me for a few days. First I was reluctant that she was insisting all the time. Then I thought about meeting her at metro station, I will wait for 4 PM bus anyway. I speak a little Spanish and google translator would be great to communicate and see if it makes sense to go with her after we meet. I will use wifi at station just to communicate.
I am planning to visit Puerto Plata next month. A woman from Santo Domingo wants to meet me and to come with me for a few days. First I was reluctant that she was insisting all the time. Then I thought about meeting her at metro station, I will wait for 4 PM bus anyway. I speak a little Spanish and google translator would be great to communicate and see if it makes sense to go with her after we meet. I will use wifi at station just to communicate.It's not going to go as smooth as you think. She will be prepared to take a trip with you (clothes, hair done, baby sitter), and you are going to give her a 15 minute interview and possibly ditch her? Expect major drama or be prepared to pay a " release fee". Even if you lay down rules with her before you met she will flip it on you later.
If this was years ago when the girls were sweet and you could dictate everything and they just went along, I could understand letting a girl hang with you that you don't yet know. But most chicas now are seasoned to the game now (especially in SD), and will show out and make a scene in public and put you in a bad situation. Probably best to just go solo.
It's not going to go as smooth as you think. She will be prepared to take a trip with you (clothes, hair done, baby sitter), and you are going to give her a 15 minute interview and possibly ditch her? Expect major drama or be prepared to pay a " release fee". Even if you lay down rules with her before you met she will flip it on you later.
If this was years ago when the girls were sweet and you could dictate everything and they just went along, I could understand letting a girl hang with you that you don't yet know. But most chicas now are seasoned to the game now (especially in SD), and will show out and make a scene in public and put you in a bad situation. Probably best to just go solo.A very good advice. Just because the girl has repeatedly urged you to to met her it looks for a big trouble to get rid of her.
Charles Pooter
04-19-15, 21:12
I am planning to visit Puerto Plata next month. A woman from Santo Domingo wants to meet me and to come with me for a few days.Why take sand to the beach? She will cramp your style horribly. A really bad idea.
Why take sand to the beach? She will cramp your style horribly. A really bad idea.
It's not going to go as smooth as you think. She will be prepared to take a trip with you (clothes, hair done, baby sitter), and you are going to give her a 15 minute interview and possibly ditch her? Expect major drama or be prepared to pay a " release fee". Even if you lay down rules with her before you met she will flip it on you later.
If this was years ago when the girls were sweet and you could dictate everything and they just went along, I could understand letting a girl hang with you that you don't yet know. But most chicas now are seasoned to the game now (especially in SD), and will show out and make a scene in public and put you in a bad situation. Probably best to just go solo.Thanks. I visited Dominican Republic a few times and I did not have any problems (except some usual minor lies, games etc.). Generally I am cautious and follow my instincts. But I did not feel right about this lady since she was so persistent to meet and come with me to Puerto Plata. So I just wanted to meet first at metro bus station and decide what to do later. But I changed my mind now after reading your advice. So little to gain and so much risk to start my vacation on a sour note.
I am planning to visit Puerto Plata next month. A woman from Santo Domingo wants to meet me and to come with me for a few days. First I was reluctant that she was insisting all the time. Then I thought about meeting her at metro station, I will wait for 4 PM bus anyway. I speak a little Spanish and google translator would be great to communicate and see if it makes sense to go with her after we meet. I will use wifi at station just to communicate.Here's an option to give you a chance to meet her, without having a problem getting rid of her.
Depending on how long you will be in the DR, just set aside an extra day or two in Santo Domingo before you go north. Don't tell her about Puerto Plata, or tell her you are meeting friends there, any excuse that makes it impossible to take her along. Spend a day and night with her. If she's so good you don't want to leave her behind, change your story.
I see we have a few first timers going to the DR now, so let me tell you from a veterans view how to prepare; Stay off the internet dating sites, especially if you have never interacted with a Dominicana before, it puts you at a disadvantage. She will know you are a newbie and play you as such. Dominican women are master manipulators when it comes to new foreign men. They will beg, plead, cry, and lie. Spend the Internet time learning Spanish, trust me.
It's easy to get caught-up while visiting the DR for the first time, I did. The girls are beautiful and sweet when they want something. As Old Kool said " No" is your favorite word. You will have a wide-eyed, curious, lost look, no matter how much you try to hide it.
My advice would be to concentrate on the internal basics, that will give you some personal security. Learn basic Spanish. Arrange your money so you won't look like an unorganized mark. Don't have a big bulging wallet hanging of you ass. Leave the wallet in your room safe and only leave with the basics. Photo copy of passport, big bills in one front pocket and little bills in the other front pocket. Don't let girls touch you below the shoulders to avoid pickpockets. Check cedulas. Get in a habit of walking girls out after you fuck to establish a routine for security. Don't fuck with cops or Dominican dudes, they love newbies LOL.
Don't go to the DR thinking you have figured everything out pre-trip, recipe for disaster.
I see we have a few first timers going to the DR now, so let me tell you from a veterans view how to prepare; Stay off the internet dating sites, especially if you have never interacted with a Dominicana before, it puts you at a disadvantage. She will know you are a newbie and play you as such. Dominican women are master manipulators when it comes to new foreign men. They will beg, plead, cry, and lie. Spend the Internet time learning Spanish, trust me.
It's easy to get caught-up while visiting the DR for the first time, I did. The girls are beautiful and sweet when they want something. As Old Kool said " No" is your favorite word. You will have a wide-eyed, curious, lost look, no matter how much you try to hide it.
My advice would be to concentrate on the internal basics, that will give you some personal security. Learn basic Spanish. Arrange your money so you won't look like an unorganized mark. Don't have a big bulging wallet hanging of you ass. Leave the wallet in your room safe and only leave with the basics. Photo copy of passport, big bills in one front pocket and little bills in the other front pocket. Don't let girls touch you below the shoulders to avoid pickpockets. Check cedulas. Get in a habit of walking girls out after you fuck to establish a routine for security. Don't fuck with cops or Dominican dudes, they love newbies LOL.
Don't go to the DR thinking you have figured everything out pre-trip, recipe for disaster.This is all excellent advice.
I do not think you have to be afraid of internet girls. They are going all out to rill you in. Most want relationships and will work to please you. They will make love to you like you are a celebrity. You will not get this from casas and SWs. If you want a little GFE in your vacation use the sites. The girls love being on vacation with you. If you are not retarded you will be the master of the encounters. Mr Go has forgotten the thrill of new willing pussy that the cupid girls provide. He has skills and time that make using internet chicas a waste of time. You are not taking sand to the beach. You are taking a girl friend. Trust me when you are 50 plus and have a 20 something girl making love to you with vigor this is priceless. Some girls will try to play you but we are playing them as well. We control our wallets and can say the magic word No when ever we need to.
Here's an option to give you a chance to meet her, without having a problem getting rid of her.
Depending on how long you will be in the DR, just set aside an extra day or two in Santo Domingo before you go north. Don't tell her about Puerto Plata, or tell her you are meeting friends there, any excuse that makes it impossible to take her along. Spend a day and night with her. If she's so good you don't want to leave her behind, change your story.
I do not think you have to be afraid of internet girls. They are going all out to rill you in. Most want relationships and will work to please you. They will make love to you like you are a celebrity. You will not get this from casas and SWs. If you want a little GFE in your vacation use the sites. The girls love being on vacation with you. If you are not retarded you will be the master of the encounters. Mr Go has forgotten the thrill of new willing pussy that the cupid girls provide. He has skills and time that make using internet chicas a waste of time. You are not taking sand to the beach. You are taking a girl friend. Trust me when you are 50 plus and have a 20 something girl making love to you with vigor this is priceless. Some girls will try to play you but we are playing them as well. We control our wallets and can say the magic word No when ever we need to.But for a newbie fresh out the box to get locked down with GFE can be very expensive and counter productive if he wants to keep all options on the table. This is a new well schooled breed of chicas now in the DR. Before they came from the heart. They wanted a foreign boyfriend, they wanted you to meet the family. Before they weren't acustomed to pulling multiple tricks a day for fast money. Sure the mongers and their sport fucking style has hardened these girls so going out looking for GFE nowadays is almost like setting yourself up for disappointment. The time it takes to wade through the Internet girls to find out what she is about only to be more confused, is not worth the time in my opinion. Girls will be coming at these newbies once they arrive, then they can do a hands on interview.
I do not think you have to be afraid of internet girls. They are going all out to rill you in. Most want relationships and will work to please you. They will make love to you like you are a celebrity. You will not get this from casas and SWs. If you want a little GFE in your vacation use the sites. The girls love being on vacation with you. If you are not retarded you will be the master of the encounters. Mr Go has forgotten the thrill of new willing pussy that the cupid girls provide. He has skills and time that make using internet chicas a waste of time. You are not taking sand to the beach. You are taking a girl friend. Trust me when you are 50 plus and have a 20 something girl making love to you with vigor this is priceless. Some girls will try to play you but we are playing them as well. We control our wallets and can say the magic word No when ever we need to.From Mr. Gogo and Oldkool.
I am well aware that the cupid chicas will try to play me, just like the chicas on the street and in the bars will try to play me. I've already had several chicas make the attempt. Most of them I just told no and goodbye, but one was so bad at playing me that I spent several hours teaching her how to be better at playing men.
My trip starts in the morning, and finally most of my plans are set. First off is an 18 year old with a Barbie body on a 5' frame. She seems to believe I will become addicted to her. Nothing asked for, but I will give her a $4 crop top t- shirt for TLN.
Second night, with an option for 2 more is another cupid chica. She wants a bit more, 1500 for TLN.
After that I am heading to Sosua for Saturday night thru Tuesday, with the option to stay until Friday. But I will probably head back to SD. I have 4 more there who I've been building up slowly.
I Have the Passport card, and book both. I carry the card and leave the book in the safe with my wallet, non DR phone and money. I tend to only carry as much money as I expect to spend, with a good cushion, and split it between my 2 front pockets.
I guess I am as ready as can be. Maybe I will see some of you in Sosua.
Here's an option to give you a chance to meet her, without having a problem getting rid of her.
Depending on how long you will be in the DR, just set aside an extra day or two in Santo Domingo before you go north. Don't tell her about Puerto Plata, or tell her you are meeting friends there, any excuse that makes it impossible to take her along. Spend a day and night with her. If she's so good you don't want to leave her behind, change your story.Thanks. But I don't want to stay in Santo Domingo at all. There is nothing for me and I feel like I am wasting my limited time there. I enjoy visiting Puerto Plata. I did what you recommend in the past. I stayed first and last day in Santo Domingo. I will spend 9 days in Dominican Republic, all in Puerto Plata.
BoricuaOnline
04-30-15, 06:43
Has anybody been in hotel Renacer? It is on Bolivar ave. Just a Couple of blocks from Pacos (Grands). I have seen it from $50. It has a rooftop terrace, restaurant and a new pool. Price include breakfast, wi fi, air conditioned room with cable and a fridge where you can chill your drinks.
Hi OldKool. I am setting up some DC dates in SD and Santiago; and will freestyle it in Sosua. I think it's great to already have a rapport with a busty young beauty who is excited to meet you. I am a newbie to DR (first trip upcoming in June). Does anyone know where I can buy an inexpensive used guitar in SD? It keeps me entertained and sometimes the girls love to be serenaded. I'll will be staying at Gran Hotel Reina per your recommendation, OK. [QUOTE=OldKool;1710127 I do not think you have to be afraid of internet girls. They are going all out to rill you in. Most want relationships and will work to please you. They will make love to you like you are a celebrity. You will not get this from casas and SWs. If you want a little GFE in your vacation use the sites. The girls love being on vacation with you. If you are not retarded you will be the master of the encounters.
You have the most important item for having a great time. That is a good attitude. I f you are determined to have a good time you will. You have done your homework but remember be firm and flexible. I know that may sound like a contradiction but it is not. Often things will change and you have to go with the flow but when BS is being played speak up. Do not let the chicas spend your money like it is theirs. They will in stores restaurants and anywhere else they can.
[QUOTE=DCups;1714460]Hi OldKool. I am setting up some DC dates in SD and Santiago; and will freestyle it in Sosua. I think it's great to already have a rapport with a busty young beauty who is excited to meet you. I am a newbie to DR (first trip upcoming in June). Does anyone know where I can buy an inexpensive used guitar in SD? It keeps me entertained and sometimes the girls love to be serenaded. I'll will be staying at Gran Hotel Reina per your recommendation, OK. [QUOTE=OldKool;1710127 Idonotthinkyouhavetobeafraidofinternetgirls. Theyaregoingallouttorillyouin. Mostwantrelationshipsandwillworktopleaseyou. Theywillmakelovetoyoulikeyouareacelebrity. YouwillnotgetthisfromcasasandSWs. IfyouwantalittleGFEinyourvacationusethesites. Thegirlslovebeingonvacationwithyou. Ifyouarenotretardedyouwillbethemasteroftheencounters. [ / QUOTE].
Mr Enternational
04-30-15, 17:03
Does anyone know where I can buy an inexpensive used guitar in SD?As CP would say, this is more of a DR1 question than an ISG question. But there is a music (instruments) shop on 30 de Marzo right on the edge of Zona Colonial. It is across from the main Claro office. I am not sure of the prices.
Made it to SD this afternoon. Picked up a nasty cold in Sosua, which cut into my fun at Blackbeard's. Only managed 3ST chicas in my room and 2 trips to the jacuzzi with 2 chicas each time. Not too bad for less than two days.
Now I have 2 chica free nights here before it's time to fly home. I'm at Casa Conde Boutique, close to the west end of El Conde. Not a bad hotel, rooms are small and cheap, but comfortable. Doesn't appear to be chica friendly, but I don't plan on finding out.
Tomorrow will do some sightseeing and take a few pictures.
Caribe was giving 44.55 per $1 today.
Made it to SD this afternoon. Picked up a nasty cold in Sosua, which cut into my fun at Blackbeard's. Only managed 3ST chicas in my room and 2 trips to the jacuzzi with 2 chicas each time. Not too bad for less than two days.
Now I have 2 chica free nights here before it's time to fly home. I'm at Casa Conde Boutique, close to the west end of El Conde. Not a bad hotel, rooms are small and cheap, but comfortable. Doesn't appear to be chica friendly, but I don't plan on finding out.
Tomorrow will do some sightseeing and take a few pictures.
Caribe was giving 44.55 per $1 today.Step up bro, don't let a cold finish your trip, you will regret it once back in sex prison. You have been slow rolling this whole trip. Maybe I'm at fault for not giving you more preparation for you trip but the board talked about it. You have to go into pre-trip training which means, eating more fruit, working out and taking a few supplements. You started out your first time in Sosua not fucking for two days which is unheard of in Sosua. Close out the show strong bro so you won't have any regrets. I know you like quality over quantity, but you got to shake the jinx. Go to GPB and have a drink and bang some chics. If you don't listen to what Gogo is telling you then you will have a long plane ride home with regrets.
I get the feeling that something has you jaded, the DR has that effect on people. You did it your way, but chalk all the bad experiences up to learning and move on to the next. The DR is fantasy island so don't be afraid to live your fantasies out. Buenas suerte.
Step up bro, don't let a cold finish your trip, you will regret it once back in sex prison. You have been slow rolling this whole trip. Maybe I'm at fault for not giving you more preparation for you trip but the board talked about it. You have to go into pre-trip training which means, eating more fruit, working out and taking a few supplements. You started out your first time in Sosua not fucking for two days which is unheard of in Sosua. Close out the show strong bro so you won't have any regrets. I know you like quality over quantity, but you got to shake the jinx. Go to GPB and have a drink and bang some chics. If you don't listen to what Gogo is telling you then you will have a long plane ride home with regrets.
I get the feeling that something has you jaded, the DR has that effect on people. You did it your way, but chalk all the bad experiences up to learning and move on to the next. The DR is fantasy island so don't be afraid to live your fantasies out. Buenas suerte.The learning experience has been fun. Even with the cold. Once I got away from my original plan, I've been rolling the dice, and so far my luck has been pretty good. Not in the number of chicas, but in avoiding getting an extreme gringo tax. I now know much more and I'm good with that.
Other than the cupid chica on my first night, every experience has been between very good and excellent. And even with missing a few days, I'm still averaging 1 chica per day. I can live with that.
I might head out tonight for some fun. Depends on how I'm feeling. I still have a few thousand pesos left to use up.
Never any regrets for me. I am always satisfied with the outcome.
BigLongBeach
05-09-15, 00:17
Hello,
Let me know if anyone has stayed at Hotel Barcelo Lina recently. I normally stay at the cheaper 1 k-1. 6 k hotels in calle Danae but I am only going for 3 days the budget will be good with a upgrade. I am getting $320 for a 3 night stay. I.
I am looking to see if what is the 'guest' policy is strict or more fair. I would book it for 2 but I normally go thru 2-3 girls a day so paying a guest fee 3 x will kill my budget.
My backup is calle Danae.
Any info will be paid back, I will give a update on hoe row or any other cool places I have been too during the trip.
BoricuaOnline
05-10-15, 03:30
Hello,
Let me know if anyone has stayed at Hotel Barcelo Lina recently. I normally stay at the cheaper 1 k-1. 6 k hotels in calle Danae but I am only going for 3 days the budget will be good with a upgrade. I am getting $320 for a 3 night stay. I.
I am looking to see if what is the 'guest' policy is strict or more fair. I would book it for 2 but I normally go thru 2-3 girls a day so paying a guest fee 3 x will kill my budget.
My backup is calle Danae.
Any info will be paid back, I will give a update on hoe row or any other cool places I have been too during the trip.I have stayed at Barcelo twice. First time arrived with a novia, we did check in in the premium lobby without problem. Second time I stayed with a cousin but the girl from first trip went to visit me. She arrived on a taxi but security do not let her enter the elevator with me. They requested $60.00 to let her check in. I was with a cousin and we paid for a double room so she was considered an extra guest. She waited for me in the lobby.
I understand sometimes a girl can go up if she looks classy and not barrial. Mi ex novia was appropiately dressed, wearing casual clothes but she arrived alone and was received by this 45 yr old guy (me), she was 20 so I understand security get suspicious of us.
I consider Barcelo non guest friendly but sometimes you can get a girl in. I got one inside Jaragua once (which reopened last week) but I infer there is some racism. The girl I got inside Jaragua was white, the one that visited me at Lina was not.
Hello,
Let me know if anyone has stayed at Hotel Barcelo Lina recently. I normally stay at the cheaper 1 k-1. 6 k hotels in calle Danae but I am only going for 3 days the budget will be good with a upgrade. I am getting $320 for a 3 night stay. I.
I am looking to see if what is the 'guest' policy is strict or more fair. I would book it for 2 but I normally go thru 2-3 girls a day so paying a guest fee 3 x will kill my budget.
My backup is calle Danae.
Any info will be paid back, I will give a update on hoe row or any other cool places I have been too during the trip.I spent two days there last April. I booked for two people. I bought two girls in. The counter girl and security gave them dirty looks, LOL, but copied their ID and let them in. My buddy didn't double book and had to pay for his girls. They definitely frown on our hobby, but it can be done. Let me know how your trip goes! Good luck!
Mr Enternational
05-10-15, 23:52
I spent two days there last April. I booked for two people. I bought two girls in. The counter girl and security gave them dirty looks, LOL, but copied their ID and let them in.I would have told the girl at the counter that she is next.
BigLongBeach
05-11-15, 05:18
Thanks for the replies guys, it seems like its not worth the risks. I typically have 2-3 girls coming through during the day and sometimes I one stays the night. It sucks cause I really liked the pool. I play poker at their casino, if I do I will chat with security and see what they say. For now I will stay away from there.
IslandMonger
05-11-15, 08:26
First time poster here but I have gotten such valuable info from this site for many years I figured it was time to give back.
My buddy and I have been mongering around the Caribbean for the last 10 years. We are both married but find a way to "sneak away" from the wives and kids for a few days each year, and tuck money away all year long to save up for the trips. As such, we need destinations that are "quick hops" from Miami (no Thailand or Germany trips just yet) and usually travel for 3-4 nights max. To date, we have been to Costa Rica twice, St. Martin twice, Panama, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Curaao and Aruba all once. I'll try and give brief highlights of each destination as we experienced it.
First, I wouldn't have any reservations about traveling to any of these destinations solo, but it's definitely safer, better, and generally more fun to go with a friend. If you can travel with a wing man (that also enjoys mongering) it's highly recommended, but I would prefer to go solo than with a friend who didn't partake in the hobby. My friend speaks Spanish and I have a good foundation of the basics, so this helps a lot as well.
Each destination has it's pros and cons, and you might like different destinations based on your mongering preference. My buddy and I both like to fuck as many chicks as our dicks can handle. With wives back home, GFE and hanging out with the same girl for a complete trip is not our thing. (I think single guys like the GFE a bit more.) We want 3-4 girls a day each, (we have a competition each trip who can bang the most chicks) and we like to party hard. FYI, mixing large amounts of alcohol, Viagra, and blow is not recommended, but damn it sure is fun! I'm straight as a narrow 361 days a year, so this is my way of getting it out of my system. Women would never understand this, but I genuinely believe these trips have saved my marriage. I always come back with a greater appreciation for my wife and kids, and stop wondering about the greener grass on the other side. When I start to get agitated and wishing I was single again, I know it's time to make a trip. Anyway. Let's get to it.
Costa Rica. Still my ATF, stayed at Del Rey both times. Yes it's a bit of a clip joint and Sportsman, Amistad, etc. Are better value hotels that are Chica friendly, but we like to stay in the heart of the action. What I love about Costa Rica and Del Rey in particular, is it's 24/7 action! 9 am, 3 pm, 4 am, you have a huge selection at any hour of the day. Also, Del Rey has the most options if you want a quickie in the morning, a 2-3 hour party in the evening or a TLN, where other destinations are not as versatile. It's nice to venture out of the hotel to some of the Brothels during the day, but sometimes it's hard to walk out the front door of Del Rey. It just sucks you in and you can't leave!. If you make it though, it's worth it. Little Havana and others are a much better value with nice chicas, but Idem was my favorite outside of Del Rey. Costa Ricas downfall IMO, is the cost. It's a more expensive destination than others listed below. Del Rey chicas want US $100 which can be negotiated down, (not to mention Chica fees, inflated bar tabs, condom and security "tips" at Del Rey) but for the girls, it's a careful balance of getting a better price without a shittier experience. Outside Del Rey prices are cut in half. Overall if money is no object, it's my number one choice. BTW, get your own hotel room for this destination.
St. Maarten. We hit this place back to back a few years ago, and it's a great destination for our needs. Carolina's and Seamans were the go to joints, but we hit Casa Blanca and a few others also. $50 plus $5-6 for the room for a half hour. Rental car is recommended here. TLN and taking the girls out of the clubs are possible but too expensive for our needs, and we share a hotel room to save cash. Generally here you hit the clubs in the evening (not a 24/7 destination as the girls sleep most of the day unless cruise ships are in) and you take the girls to the rooms in the back. 1/2 hour is the standard and you can do an hour, but rarely anything more in house. Good selection and pricing is great, but when you hit as many different chicas as my friend and I do, Chica politics starts to creep in, and we developed quite a reputation by the end of our trip. Last night at Carolina's I was sitting at the bar and looked around, and I had fucked every girl in the room. When the girls see you back and forth at the same pace as them, they start to get pissed. Don't know why.
DR (Santo Domingo) - we only had 3 nights here and couldn't get a straight flight to Sosua from Miami, and didn't want to waste the extra time going back and forth, so we stayed in the city. Can't remember the name of the hotel, it was Chica friendly but we had problems with more than 1 Chica at a time. 4-5 different brothels in walking distance but no rooms on site at any of them, it was takeout only. Based on this, girls generally wanted $150 for 2 hours, and to me this place was more of a GFE / TLN kind of place. For our tastes, it wasn't what we like but still had a blast and the girls was much prettier than I expected. (I prefer whiter girls and was expecting darker complexion but had no problems finding a knockout each time.) it's not top of my list for a repeat but I would go back.
Panama City. Tied with Cuba as the least favorite of all our trips. Stayed at Veneto. Girls are only available for a few hours in the evenings, and they will NOT approach you, so you better grab the one you want and fast. Generally they want to spend a few hours to all night with you ($150 starting price). One night we went to Little Havana club and when we arrived, only 2-3 girls were there. Within an hour, the place was crawling with over 100 girls, wall to wall, holy shit! Tried to hang out and approach multiple girls to get a chemistry going, but within 2 hours the place was empty and went back to the hotel empty handed. By then, I had missed the window with girls at the Veneto casino, and waited till 4 am before I could grab one. Jeez. There were a few brothels / massage parlors in the area but very low number of girls working and 3-4 looks on average. We took a taxi to a local brothel in the area the last night (Caribbean Club I think) and had a good night there, but overall I would not repeat. If TLN is your thing though, you might like it.
Cuba. Not a very note worthy mongering destination IMO, although we went here with other friends 10 years ago so things may have changed. Prostitution is illegal, and you can't take girls into the hotels, so my friends and I rented a house about 45 minutes outside Havana. There was a disco tech in walking distance and gringos won't have a problem picking up girls, but keep in mind, they are not technically working girls, but are going with you for the cash. ($30 is a months salary over there.) TLN is the only thing on the menu really, and the friends we were with had been before and already had girlfriends from the previous trip. They ended up setting me up with one of their friends half way through the trip, so I stayed with her for the remainder. Yawn. Things may have changed since then, but I doubt it.
Curaao. Campo Alegre is by far the best value dollar for dollar we have found to date. Air fare is the cheapest of all destinations from Miami, we stayed at Venetia (next to the Denny's) for under $100 a night, and banging Colombians for $30 a pop is unbeatable. Every girl I was with from the spinners to the 6-8's offered GFE, all have "party favorites" and you can easily spend 1/2 hour to 2-3 hours with whoever you want, have 3-somes, he'll my buddy and I partied for 3-4 hours with 5 chicks one evening, fucked everyone of them, and each had one more before leaving that night. I think we spent $500 that night for the two of us, and we weren't haggling or watching the bank either, that if unbeatable! Girls range from 2-3 to 8-9 in looks and while I am always tempted to only hit "top shelf" girls each trip, I find the 6-8 girls are the best performers and most memorable experiences.
Chica politics is slightly higher than say DR or CR, but way less than St. Martin which has smaller clubs like Carolina's. I only had an issue with one Chica at Campo, and it's so big and wide open you can hang in different spots if you need to avoid a Chica. Girls will do daytime takeout at reasonable prices although I did not partake, and my biggest criticism of the club is it's outdoors and can get very hot and humid, but girls rooms are AC and have showers when needed. Overall it's a safe atmosphere and you can party hard, although you do have to drive back to your hotel afterwards (rental car highly recommended) but we found it easy enough to navigate and never got lost. We are heading back there next week (20 May) for 3 nights, and we can't wait.
Aruba. We hit Aruba for only one night after Curaao, and we had stayed up all night at Campo before leaving, so our energy was down. Rental car is highly recommended and there are no close hotels to San Nicholas so you have to drive 30 minutes on average. We did the "drive through" experience in the day time and hit a few of the clubs that night, hanging at each one for a drink and hitting whatever chicas caught our attention. Overall it was fun but I wouldn't consider Aruba a true "mongering destination" rather a good tourist destination that also has mongering. I wanted to try the escort service when we got back to the hotel as I read the girls are good quality, fast delivery and overall good service, but we were spent by that time.
Overall I would say Costa Rica is the best for sheer number of girls, variety of cultures and quality, and 24/7 action, but it's downfall is the expense. St. Martin is a lot of fun and suites our style and budget for many chicas in a short time, but honestly after discovering Campo, I just think it's better overall. Cheaper pricing, quality is just as good IMO, and it's easier to party with them at Campo versus St. Martin clubs that are highly geared to short sessions only. Aruba would be good if you want a nice Caribbean vacation and bang a Chica or two when you are there (either escort of San Nicholas) but not a hardcore destination. Cuba and Panama were a waste of time for pure mongering.
Sosua sounds amazing from the threads, as does Columbia but travel time and expense (plus safety) has held us back from these areas, although they are definitely on our "to do" list. As of now, if you haven't experienced CR, St. Martin or Curaao, they are all worth visiting but as of right now, Curaao looks to be our "go to" destination moving forward.
First time poster here but I have gotten such valuable info from this site for many years I figured it was time to give back.
My buddy and I have been mongering around the Caribbean for the last 10 years. We are both married but find a way to "sneak away" from the wives and kids for a few days each year, and tuck money away all year long to save up for the trips. As such, we need destinations that are "quick hops" from Miami (no Thailand or Germany trips just yet) and usually travel for 3-4 nights max. To date, we have been to Costa Rica twice, St. Martin twice, Panama, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Curaao and Aruba all once. I'll try and give brief highlights of each destination as we experienced it.
First, I wouldn't have any reservations about traveling to any of these destinations solo, but it's definitely safer, better, and generally more fun to go with a friend. If you can travel with a wing man (that also enjoys mongering) it's highly recommended, but I would prefer to go solo than with a friend who didn't partake in the hobby. My friend speaks Spanish and I have a good foundation of the basics, so this helps a lot as well.
Each destination has it's pros and cons, and you might like different destinations based on your mongering preference. My buddy and I both like to fuck as many chicks as our dicks can handle. With wives back home, GFE and hanging out with the same girl for a complete trip is not our thing. (I think single guys like the GFE a bit more.) We want 3-4 girls a day each, (we have a competition each trip who can bang the most chicks) and we like to party hard. FYI, mixing large amounts of alcohol, Viagra, and blow is not recommended, but damn it sure is fun! I'm straight as a narrow 361 days a year, so this is my way of getting it out of my system. Women would never understand this, but I genuinely believe these trips have saved my marriage. I always come back with a greater appreciation for my wife and kids, and stop wondering about the greener grass on the other side. When I start to get agitated and wishing I was single again, I know it's time to make a trip. Anyway. Let's get to it..Islandmonger,
Excellent post with much useful info! Please keep it coming.
Okay guys, I've done the Sosua thing a couple of times and want to experience the capital. I've read the forum but I have some direct questions. I want to stay near the action so should I get a hotel near the malecon, zona Colonia area? If so any recommendations also ave Venezuela seems popular is it far from the malecon? I'm guessing Santo Domingo is more expensive for P4P than Sosua what prices can I expect? Thanks in advance.
Mr Enternational
05-11-15, 23:50
Okay guys, I've done the Sosua thing a couple of times and want to experience the capital. I've read the forum but I have some direct questions. I want to stay near the action so should I get a hotel near the malecon, zona Colonia area? If so any recommendations also ave Venezuela seems popular is it far from the malecon? I'm guessing Santo Domingo is more expensive for P4P than Sosua what prices can I expect? Thanks in advance.There is action all over Santo Domingo and at various price points. Which action do you want to stay near and what is your price point?
PirateMorgan
05-12-15, 00:15
No Sosua or Colombia? I guess you are saving the best for last. No, not guessing, you are saving the best for last.
There is action all over Santo Domingo and at various price points. Which action do you want to stay near and what is your price point?I want to stay near strip clubs, brothels and bars. Don't want to pay more than 100 a night for a room.
IslandMonger
05-12-15, 02:44
No Sosua or Colombia? I guess you are saving the best for last. No, not guessing, you are saving the best for last.Hi Pirate Morgan,
I can't say that I am highly motivated to hit DR again, even though Sosua has a lot of great reports. (I guess I am hooked on Columbians). I've read so many good reports about Sosua and from a lot of guys who are switching from CR to there, but unless it has a direct flight from Miami, I'm always hesitant. We only have a few days each trip, so I don't want to waste too much time traveling, and we are "sneaking away" so easy access is important in case of emergency and we have to get back fast.
My buddy and I have talked about Columbia for years, and he is from Columbia originally, but he is even weary of mongering in the big cities for safety reasons, which is strange be / see we are never intimidated to try new places. Curaao is a sure bet for an incredible value, but I'm sure after this second trip next week we will want to try a new spot. My argument us. Let's go straight to the source!
Bogota, Medellin, or Cartagena, which would you recommend?
Hi Pirate Morgan,
I can't say that I am highly motivated to hit DR again, even though Sosua has a lot of great reports. (I guess I am hooked on Columbians). I've read so many good reports about Sosua and from a lot of guys who are switching from CR to there, but unless it has a direct flight from Miami, I'm always hesitant. We only have a few days each trip, so I don't want to waste too much time traveling, and we are "sneaking away" so easy access is important in case of emergency and we have to get back fast.
My buddy and I have talked about Columbia for years, and he is from Columbia originally, but he is even weary of mongering in the big cities for safety reasons, which is strange be / see we are never intimidated to try new places. Curaao is a sure bet for an incredible value, but I'm sure after this second trip next week we will want to try a new spot. My argument us. Let's go straight to the source!
Bogota, Medellin, or Cartagena, which would you recommend?I would recommend you start off by saying Colombia and not Columbia. Think about it.
Sosua has a direct flight from Miami, it's Puerto Plata and there is a daily flight that leaves in the early afternoon and arrives into POP an hour and 40 minutes later. Sosua is only a 10 minute drive from the airport. It's easy to walk around, you can find all types of women, and cost wise it is a bargain and worth it. There are not fancy 5 star hotels, but the accomodations are fine and you'll be worrying more about which girl to bang rather than how comfortable your bed really is. I would highly recommend giving Sosua a try first, and then going to Colombia. I have experienced Bogota and Cartagena, and they are both different. Just like Sosua you'll find a variety of women from 2's to 10's, but I would say the averae is higher than a Sosua. But better looks does not necessarily translate to better experience. Cost wise, Sosua is still the better value but women in Bogota are hot. Cartagena same thing, but I felt CTG was a hit or miss. Nevertheless it's a good city to explore. Many will say Medellin is the best, and I can't comment on that since I have not been there. However it's on my list for the next few months.
My buddy and I have talked about Columbia for years, and he is from Columbia originally, but he is even weary of mongering in the big cities for safety reasons, which is strange be / see we are never intimidated to try new places. Curaao is a sure bet for an incredible value, but I'm sure after this second trip next week we will want to try a new spot. My argument us. Let's go straight to the source!
Bogota, Medellin, or Cartagena, which would you recommend?Everyone I have talked to recommends Medellin, lower prices and much higher numbers, probably your best bet.
Bogota is another good choice, plenty of flight options and the Santa Fe area sounds like the perfect spot for you. Traveling with a wingman you should be reasonably safe, if you use some common sense. Never leave your drink unattended and never flag down a taxi on the street, especially in the Santa Fe area. The Transmilenio (Bogotá mass transit) is cheap, and puts you just a few blocks away from the action.
The only problem I see, if you guys are seriously into partying, you're just begging for trouble in any big city, especially Bogotá.
Everyone I have talked to recommends Medellin, lower prices and much higher numbers, probably your best bet.
Bogota is another good choice, plenty of flight options and the Santa Fe area sounds like the perfect spot for you. Traveling with a wingman you should be reasonably safe, if you use some common sense. Never leave your drink unattended and never flag down a taxi on the street, especially in the Santa Fe area. The Transmilenio (Bogot mass transit) is cheap, and puts you just a few blocks away from the action.
The only problem I see, if you guys are seriously into partying, you're just begging for trouble in any big city, especially Bogot.I think what people like most about Medellin is the pure beauty of the girls there. The city is also a very pretty and the climate is perfect. It is not as user friendly as Cartagena, Panama, Sosua, or San Jose Costa Rica. It is more spread out and other than a handful of strip clubs most of the mongering consists of Casa's. However the amount of high quality women there is second to none.
IslandMonger
05-13-15, 03:30
Everyone I have talked to recommends Medellin, lower prices and much higher numbers, probably your best bet.
Bogota is another good choice, plenty of flight options and the Santa Fe area sounds like the perfect spot for you. Traveling with a wingman you should be reasonably safe, if you use some common sense. Never leave your drink unattended and never flag down a taxi on the street, especially in the Santa Fe area. The Transmilenio (Bogot mass transit) is cheap, and puts you just a few blocks away from the action.
The only problem I see, if you guys are seriously into partying, you're just begging for trouble in any big city, especially Bogot.Thanks gents for the comments. We will certainly want to try a new spot after our Campo trip next week. Given our love of Colombian chicas and the fact that we have never been, that will likely be our destination.
FYI, yes we like to party, but not sloppy obnoxious drunk that gives Americans a bad name kind of party. We let loose but still keep a level head.
I'll post a Campo report after I get back.
BoricuaOnline
05-13-15, 04:21
I want to stay near strip clubs, brothels and bars. Don't want to pay more than 100 a night for a room.Gazcue area is your best choice. It is in the malecon area. You have good guest friendly small hotels around $50 per night. I have been in Casona Dorada, San Francisco de Asis, Riazor, La Morada, Mystik and Jaguar which are walking distance from casas and cost from $40 to $60. The Jaragua hotel and Sheraton are two large hotels in the area where you can find working girls. There are streetgirls too. Mystik is around and next to a couple of clubs, it is also used as a short term rent from casas. Casas in the area are pricey but there are casas you can go in taxi with girls from 1000 pesos or 2 for 1500. There is a gel massage place a few miles west on malecon that is a must go. There are a couple of local full nude strip clubs (taxi necessary) where you can have sex with the girls and the cost is around 2000 pesos. Venezuela ave. Is full of clubs where you can't easily meet locals. Don, t be shy and introduce yourself to the lady that attract you, most times you are going to succeed?
I expect to visit Santo Domingo pretty soon.
Thanks for the info. Are the Jar Angular or Sheraton guest friendly?
Member #4643
05-13-15, 05:22
I think what people like most about Medellin is the pure beauty of the girls there. The city is also a very pretty and the climate is perfect. It is not as user friendly as Cartagena, Panama, Sosua, or San Jose Costa Rica. It is more spread out and other than a handful of strip clubs most of the mongering consists of Casa's. However the amount of high quality women there is second to none.I know that a lot of guys are thinking about a mongering trip, and cannot decide between the DR and Colombia. I have been to both countries, and thought I would weigh on on this debate with my somewhat perverted viewpoint.
If you want to fuck non-pros (or semi-pros), the DR has Colombia beaten by a lot. I always have too many choices in Santo Domingo. On the other hand, the brothels in Medellin have prettier girls than any of the casas in Sto Domingo. That is not to say that a beauty cannot be easily found in Sto Domingo, but the quality of the girls is more to my taste in Colombian brothels. Prettier and younger than the brothels of SD. On the other hand, I like the average girl on the street (non sex workers) in Sto Domingo more than in Colombia because I love black women.
It is simply sooooo much easier to convince a girl who has never sold herself before in her life to come back to your hotel in SD than Medellin.
Thanks for the info. Are the Jar Angular or Sheraton guest friendly?The Sheraton is absolutely not guest friendly. TripAdvisor reviews will indicate this very clearly, and I can tell you from personal experience as well. They will charge you for bringing a girl back. Only registered guests are allowed. I do not know about the Jaragua. I can tell you the Crowne Plaza is guest friendly if you are discrete. I have had better luck there than any of other others in the area, but I mostly also stay at the mainstream ones.
Gazcue area is your best choice. It is in the malecon area. You have good guest friendly small hotels around $50 per night. I have been in Casona Dorada, San Francisco de Asis, Riazor, La Morada, Mystik and Jaguar which are walking distance from casas and cost from $40 to $60. The Jaragua hotel and Sheraton are two large hotels in the area where you can find working girls. There are streetgirls too. Mystik is around and next to a couple of clubs, it is also used as a short term rent from casas. Casas in the area are pricey but there are casas you can go in taxi with girls from 1000 pesos or 2 for 1500. There is a gel massage place a few miles west on malecon that is a must go. There are a couple of local full nude strip clubs (taxi necessary) where you can have sex with the girls and the cost is around 2000 pesos. Venezuela ave. Is full of clubs where you can't easily meet locals. Don, t be shy and introduce yourself to the lady that attract you, most times you are going to succeed?
I expect to visit Santo Domingo pretty soon.What are the names of the strip club you hit? I've only been to Foxys. LOL. They wanted more than 2000 pesos. LOL. I'm going spend a little time in SD in July.
Do what Boricua say, he keeps it 100. There is nothing but good advice in what he wrote.
Gazcue area is your best choice. It is in the malecon area. You have good guest friendly small hotels around $50 per night. I have been in Casona Dorada, San Francisco de Asis, Riazor, La Morada, Mystik and Jaguar which are walking distance from casas and cost from $40 to $60. The Jaragua hotel and Sheraton are two large hotels in the area where you can find working girls. There are streetgirls too. Mystik is around and next to a couple of clubs, it is also used as a short term rent from casas. Casas in the area are pricey but there are casas you can go in taxi with girls from 1000 pesos or 2 for 1500. There is a gel massage place a few miles west on malecon that is a must go. There are a couple of local full nude strip clubs (taxi necessary) where you can have sex with the girls and the cost is around 2000 pesos. Venezuela ave. Is full of clubs where you can't easily meet locals. Don, t be shy and introduce yourself to the lady that attract you, most times you are going to succeed?
I expect to visit Santo Domingo pretty soon.
Gazcue area is your best choice. It is in the malecon area. You have good guest friendly small hotels around $50 per night. I have been in Casona Dorada, San Francisco de Asis, Riazor, La Morada, Mystik and Jaguar which are walking distance from casas and cost from $40 to $60. The Jaragua hotel and Sheraton are two large hotels in the area where you can find working girls. There are streetgirls too. Mystik is around and next to a couple of clubs, it is also used as a short term rent from casas. Casas in the area are pricey but there are casas you can go in taxi with girls from 1000 pesos or 2 for 1500. There is a gel massage place a few miles west on malecon that is a must go. There are a couple of local full nude strip clubs (taxi necessary) where you can have sex with the girls and the cost is around 2000 pesos. Venezuela ave. Is full of clubs where you can't easily meet locals. Don, t be shy and introduce yourself to the lady that attract you, most times you are going to succeed?
I expect to visit Santo Domingo pretty soon.Yes this is spot on!
I will add that I was playing Black jack at the Sheraton Casino one night about 4 am and two of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen sat down at the table. They had just left work from Solid Gold. (a high class overpriced strip club up the street, that from what I remember the girls want $500 plus just to leave for one hour). I was already with a girl I had met earlier in the night from another club but, I would go back to the Sheraton Casino just to see if those girls ever come back! They were looking for some late night action. Stunning beauty.
BoricuaOnline
05-16-15, 00:38
What are the names of the strip club you hit? I've only been to Foxys. LOL. They wanted more than 2000 pesos. LOL. I'm going spend a little time in SD in July.I am not sure of the name, I believe it is Showgirls (not related to the US franchise). The place is not modern and fancy as other clubs but it is ok. Most of the girls the night I visited were very attractive. It is located on the service road of Kennedy highway, next to Olimpic Stadium, a couple of blocks from Plaza Sambil. Girls strip to full nude, beer is very cold and I was requested 2000 pesos for full service in a room onsite.
Mr Enternational
05-16-15, 05:40
I am not sure of the name, I believe it is Showgirls (not related to the US franchise). The place is not modern and fancy as other clubs but it is ok. Most of the girls the night I visited were very attractive. It is located on the service road of Kennedy highway, next to Olimpic Stadium, a couple of blocks from Plaza Sambil. Girls strip to full nude, beer is very cold and I was requested 2000 pesos for full service in a room onsite.I found this for BO:
http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/video.php?v=wshhldzVce6sy425KHRd
BoricuaOnline
05-16-15, 06:54
I found this for BO:
http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/video.php?v=wshhldzVce6sy425KHRdLOL, funny video. Evidently done by young people, they do not know that mofongo is a puertorican dish. Mofongo was almost non existent in the Dominican Republic decades ago. 1-0 Puerto Rico, LOL. Two decades ago Puerto Rico was the meca of sexual tourism of the Caribbean, now it is Dominican Republic. 100-1 Dominican Republic won, LOL.
Newbie on the site but been peeping game from true international mongers for a bit now have my first international mongering trip planned, I believe I have read that BQ Santo Domingo is chica friendly if any one have info that's not the case let me know traveling last week of June through 1 of July so time to change in necessary. Look forward to peeping mo game and reporting after my trip.
Hi,
I've been lurking for a while, and it seems like most guys stay in chica friendly hotels in Santo Domingo. I want to go there for 2-3 months so I think an apartment would be better for me (cheaper, more amenities). With kitchen, WiFi, washer, dryer, AC. Any ideas where to find such an apt? Thanks in advance to anyone with intel on the subject.
There is a round trip airline price for SD from DC area. The price is $338 on Spirit air. The price for Puerto Plata same day and airport is $738 go figure. I did find a flight in August to PP for $414.
Hi,
I've been lurking for a while, and it seems like most guys stay in chica friendly hotels in Santo Domingo. I want to go there for 2-3 months so I think an apartment would be better for me (cheaper, more amenities). With kitchen, WiFi, washer, dryer, AC. Any ideas where to find such an apt? Thanks in advance to anyone with intel on the subject.But in other parts of the world I have found that if you get an apartment, one chica will stake you out as her own and then your stuck. She tends to confront other chicas cutting in her her personal ATM gringo. I like hotels to meet many girls and then when the shit gets too thick, I just change hotels.
There is a round trip airline price for SD from DC area. The price is $338 on Spirit air. The price for Puerto Plata same day and airport is $738 go figure. I did find a flight in August to PP for $414.Have you tried the Kayak app? It has an explore feature. Just pick your home airport and it pops up a world map with the best price listed for every airport. Touch the price and it tells you when that price is available. Great tool for long-term planning, especially if you travel to several different places.
Mr Enternational
05-25-15, 20:15
But in other parts of the world I have found that if you get an apartment, one chica will stake you out as her own and then your stuck. She tends to confront other chicas cutting in her her personal ATM gringo. I like hotels to meet many girls and then when the shit gets too thick, I just change hotels.Why not just tell the girl goodbye if you no longer want to be with her, instead of running and hiding?
BoricuaOnline
05-25-15, 21:43
Hi,
I've been lurking for a while, and it seems like most guys stay in chica friendly hotels in Santo Domingo. I want to go there for 2-3 months so I think an apartment would be better for me (cheaper, more amenities). With kitchen, WiFi, washer, dryer, AC. Any ideas where to find such an apt? Thanks in advance to anyone with intel on the subject.Check the airbnb website. There are hundreds of short and long term house and apartments for rent available.
Why not just tell the girl goodbye if you no longer want to be with her, instead of running and hiding?90% of the chicas are unemployed and the "ATM" chico is not to be shared. You can kick the chica to the curb but many are stalkers and do not handle rejection very well. If they can't have the "ATM". Then nobody gets the "ATM". You can't reason with crazy psycho chicas and they love drama.
I'm USA citizen, how long can I stay in DR as a tourist? I can't find any information online where it gives a hard limit. It always says "60 days and then you can ask for more time or pay a fine when you leave and the fine is small". Does this mean I can stay all year? If not how many days per year? In Colombia, for example, I am limited to 6 months per year. Does DR have such a restriction?
A Toda Maquina
05-26-15, 03:05
Hey people, What is up with the La Romana reports? Any beach action there? Are must one have to be any city center?
Info Appreciated.
BoricuaOnline
05-26-15, 03:15
But in other parts of the world I have found that if you get an apartment, one chica will stake you out as her own and then your stuck. She tends to confront other chicas cutting in her her personal ATM gringo. I like hotels to meet many girls and then when the shit gets too thick, I just change hotels.It also occurs in the Dominican Republic. One good strategy is to tell each girl different arrivals and leaving dates (because they are going to ask) .
If you stay long term in a place do not take your chica to your place or tell her you are leaving next day.
Camaro1257
05-26-15, 08:44
Camaro's overview of Gazcue May 2015.
Although I live in Puerto Plata now I found airfares to be less expensive flying into Santo Domingo, therefore I will be spending more time there before and after my trips. Recently I spent some time in Gazcue and I would like to submit this report for your review. Gazcue is one of the oldest sectors of Santo Domingo and is considered to be a tourist area where you can find many extranjeros. The area has several hotels modern & old apartments along with residential dwellings. This part of Santo Domingo reminded me of Poblado in Medellin, Milflores in Lima Peru and Recoletta in Buenas Aires Argentina. The area is also known for its high end casa de citas along with streetwalkers.
This report will not be a comprehensive view of the entire area of Gazcue it will simply cover the area from Avenida George Washington, Avenida Pasture and Avenida Indepencia.
• Avenida George Washington.
Avenida George Washington travels east and west on the south side of the city providing a view of the Carribean Sea. At the intersecton of Avenida George Washington and Avenida Pasture there is the following:
Torre Veirmar Apartments.
Torre Veirmar Apartments are private residences the property appears to be relatively new with contemporary designs.
Crown Plaza Hotel.
The Crown Plaza Santo Domingo is a high end hotel at the corner that faces Avenida George Washington.
• Avenida Pasture.
Avenida Pasture travels north from Avenida George Washington to Avenida Indepencia.
Casa de Citas.
• Sky High Lounge.
• Bar LA21.
Hotel Shakey (Apartments).
Hotel Shakey Aparthotel is on Avenida Pasture just off Avenida George Washington. Some of the rooms have an ocean view and others have a city view. The ocean view rooms are more expensive but overall the room are very nice.
The receptionist walks you to your room but does not help with the bags. When you walk in there is a living room and dining room area to your left a small kitchenette with a gas stove and refrigerator. You continue to find a guest bathroom without a shower the master bedroom with a queen size bed closet and flat screen television. There is also a master bath with shower etc.
The apartment is very clean and most everything has an egg shell neutral color. The TV and cable work well but I had connection problems with the WIFI so I used my Orange hotspot. The other complaint I had was there was no microwave which is very important for heating left overs but asi es la vida.
My intention is to visit different hotels on my Santo Domingo excursions but I can readily see getting stuck in the place on more than one trip.
Hotel Mystic.
Hotel Mystic is on the same side of the street as Hotel Shakey. I have never stayed there but it is reported to be a great chica friendly hotel option for less than $50.00 a night. I will try to investigate further on one of my next Santo Domingo excursions.
• Avenida Indepencia.
Avenida Indepencia travels east west parallel with Avenida George Washington to the south connected by Avenida Pasture which travels north south.
Manolo's Restaurante.
Manolo's is on Avenida Indepencia west of Avenida Pasture. I did not eat at Manolo's this trip but in the past the food and the staff was great. This open air venue provides a great place to people watch and the food is nothing short of fantastic.
Hotel Riazor.
Hotel Riazor is on the same side of the street as Manolo's Restaurante. I have never stayed there but I have heard some good reviews so it will be on my radar for future trips.
Club 305 Hotel.
Club 305 Hotel is a high end casa de cita on the same side of the street as Manolo's restaurant east of Avenida Pasture. I chose not to spend 4000 pesos and hour this trip.
Bodega Indepencia.
Bodega Indepencia is a colmado that sells alcohol and refreshments. It is on the same side of the street as Club 305. There are tables and chairs outside and it is a local hangout for people in the area. There are reportedly freelancers available during different times of the week especially during the weekends.
Villas Hnos.
At the intersection of Avenida Indepencia and Avenida Pasture is a staple of Gazcue. Villas Hnos has a cafeteria style restaurant a bakery and a separate outdoor café next to the cafeteria. The cafeteria provides modestly prices food and is almost always busy any time of day.
The café is more upscale than the cafeteria and is an outdoor venue with a very classy vibe and efficient wait staff. I would consider it a 4 star restaurant and if you are not careful you can spend 1500 pesos easy for dinner however the food is great.
Hotel Duque Wellington.
Hotel Duque Wellington is next door to Villas Hnos café and appears to be an obscure small time hotel. I did not visit but perhaps I will investigate further in the future.
Navarro Hotel & Restaurant.
The Navarro Hotel Restaurant is on the same side of the street as Hotel Duque Wellington. I used the hotel as a short time venue about 2 years ago and I was not impressed with the towels and small rooms. I may visit again in the future to see if anything has changed. I have not eaten at the restaurant so I cannot comment.
Closing thoughts.
I saw freelance street walkers during my stay but since I was preoccupied I did not partake. They usually walk or stand in the area of Avenida Indepencia between Malolo's and the Navarro Hotel as well as congregate at the Bodega.
My major complaint is because this a major tourist area there are many touts trying to get paid. If you hear someone say "hey my fren" trust me he wants to get paid for being an unofficial guide so to speak. I find them more annoying than harmful. They could be trying to rob you instead for the most part they are street hustlers who can help you find anything you want if you know what I mean.
Conclusion.
I love this area for the restaurant options alone and the lodging options are more than acceptable also. The area is comfortable for many extranjeros because many people speak English due to it being a tourist area.
I walked around at night but I was very aware of my surroundings at no point did I feel unsafe and there was an occasional police presence in the area. I will definitely return to check out some of the hotel options that I have yet to experience.
Gentlemen, is Viagra (and its generic brands) available in Santo Domingo pharmacies without a prescription? What's the price for the generics?
Thanks
Why not just tell the girl goodbye if you no longer want to be with her, instead of running and hiding?Duh! I hate breaking up with any babe. Nice to have a string of them. I get stood up a lot. LOL.
Mr Enternational
05-26-15, 13:44
Duh! I hate breaking up with any babe. Nice to have a string of them. I get stood up a lot. LOL.Maybe I don't understand. It's not breaking up to say goodbye I will see you later. I am going out to hang with friends or do my own thing now.
Gentlemen, is Viagra (and its generic brands) available in Santo Domingo pharmacies without a prescription? What's the price for the generics?
ThanksYes. You can get it at any pharmacy. The generic for Cialis is called Mambo and coats 20 pesos each pill. I believe the generic Viagra is called La Pela and should be about the same price. I'm not certain what the cost for 5 he brand name versions are. I believe there's another generic ED pill called Elevex or something similar, but I don't know what it is generic of.
You will also find lots of men walking around selling blue pills, but I wouldn't recommend buying them.
I'm not certain what all is available without a prescription there, but I know the ibuprofen they sell is the 800 MG stuff.
Maybe I don't understand. It's not breaking up to say goodbye I will see you later. I am going out to hang with friends or do my own thing now.Who breaks up with a chica? Give her the money and show her the door. If you want to let her down gently throw in some pesos for a motoconcho.
Manizales911
05-26-15, 15:34
Yes. You can get it at any pharmacy. The generic for Cialis is called Mambo and coats 20 pesos each pill. I believe the generic Viagra is called La Pela and should be about the same price. I'm not certain what the cost for 5 he brand name versions are. I believe there's another generic ED pill called Elevex or something similar, but I don't know what it is generic of.
You will also find lots of men walking around selling blue pills, but I wouldn't recommend buying them.
I'm not certain what all is available without a prescription there, but I know the ibuprofen they sell is the 800 MG stuff.Incorrect. The generic name for Cialis is Tadalafil and the generic name for Viagra is Sildenafil.
Yes. You can get it at any pharmacy. The generic for Cialis is called Mambo and coats 20 pesos each pill. I believe the generic Viagra is called La Pela and should be about the same price. I'm not certain what the cost for 5 he brand name versions are. I believe there's another generic ED pill called Elevex or something similar, but I don't know what it is generic of.
You will also find lots of men walking around selling blue pills, but I wouldn't recommend buying them.
I'm not certain what all is available without a prescription there, but I know the ibuprofen they sell is the 800 MG stuff.Yes, the usual price for Ibuprofen generic seems to be 10 or 11 pesos per pill. Sometimes they are sold in small envelopes of two pills of 800 mgs each and it is not very clear what dose you are getting from the packaging on the envelope.
The maximum recommended daily dose is 2400 mgs (3 pills). The 400 mgs and 800 mgs pills require a prescription in the US, but you can buy a bottle of 500 pills of 200mgs over the counter. Go figure.
Just out of interest (maybe to some) recently I saw a private orthopedic surgeon in Puerto Plata. I had a shot of cortisone in the shoulder and he also gave me 15 dexamethasone (steroid) pills wrapped in a piece of paper with prescription instructions handwritten on it for 3000 pesos. So the cost of the visit is about the same as I would have paid with insurance in the US for a copayment of $40 for a consult plus a prescription fee for the tablets. Or close to the same price. No appointment necessary and I was seen 10 minutes after I walked in at around 8:45 am.
Incorrect. The generic name for Cialis is Tadalafil and the generic name for Viagra is Sildenafil.No he is trying to say that the local brand of generic sildenafil (the ingredient in the brand name Viagra) is LaPela, so the information is basically correct. There are also other brands available in the DR. But if you ask for generic sildenafil or tadalafil, you should be sure to get the right stuff. I would not buy from guys in the street, because they just buy the cheap generics and then sell them on to you for ten times the price. You can get them in any pharmacy and there are many pharmacies.
Incorrect. The generic name for Cialis is Tadalafil and the generic name for Viagra is Sildenafil.Yes, I know, but in pharmacies in Santo Domingo, they sell generic versions of these pills under the names I gave. I had assumed the poster either already knew the drug name or would be able to look it up, if he was interested. What I was attempting to do, was to give him useful information. I didn't realize I violated the intended use of the board by trying to be helpful.
Camaro's overview of Gazcue May 2015.
Although I live in Puerto Plata now I found airfares to be less expensive flying into Santo Domingo, therefore I will be spending more time there before and after my trips. Recently I spent some time in Gazcue and I would like to submit this report for your review. Gazcue is one of the oldest sectors of Santo Domingo and is considered to be a tourist area where you can find many extranjeros. The area has several hotels modern & old apartments along with residential dwellings. This part of Santo Domingo reminded me of Poblado in Medellin, Milflores in Lima Peru and Recoletta in Buenas Aires Argentina. The area is also known for its high end casa de citas along with streetwalkers.
This report will not be a comprehensive view of the entire area of Gazcue it will simply cover the area from Avenida George Washington, Avenida Pasture and Avenida Indepencia.
Avenida George Washington.
Avenida George Washington travels east and west on the south side of the city providing a view of the Carribean Sea. At the intersecton of Avenida George Washington and Avenida Pasture there is the following:
Torre Veirmar Apartments.
Torre Veirmar Apartments are private residences the property appears to be relatively new with contemporary designs.
Crown Plaza Hotel.
The Crown Plaza Santo Domingo is a high end hotel at the corner that faces Avenida George Washington.
Avenida Pasture.
Avenida Pasture travels north from Avenida George Washington to Avenida Indepencia.
Casa de Citas.
Sky High Lounge.
Bar LA21.
Hotel Shakey (Apartments).
Hotel Shakey Aparthotel is on Avenida Pasture just off Avenida George Washington. Some of the rooms have an ocean view and others have a city view. The ocean view rooms are more expensive but overall the room are very nice.
The receptionist walks you to your room but does not help with the bags. When you walk in there is a living room and dining room area to your left a small kitchenette with a gas stove and refrigerator. You continue to find a guest bathroom without a shower the master bedroom with a queen size bed closet and flat screen television. There is also a master bath with shower etc.
The apartment is very clean and most everything has an egg shell neutral color. The TV and cable work well but I had connection problems with the WIFI so I used my Orange hotspot. The other complaint I had was there was no microwave which is very important for heating left overs but asi es la vida.
My intention is to visit different hotels on my Santo Domingo excursions but I can readily see getting stuck in the place on more than one trip.
Hotel Mystic.
Hotel Mystic is on the same side of the street as Hotel Shakey. I have never stayed there but it is reported to be a great chica friendly hotel option for less than $50.00 a night. I will try to investigate further on one of my next Santo Domingo excursions.
Avenida Indepencia.
Avenida Indepencia travels east west parallel with Avenida George Washington to the south connected by Avenida Pasture which travels north south.
Manolo's Restaurante.
Manolo's is on Avenida Indepencia west of Avenida Pasture. I did not eat at Manolo's this trip but in the past the food and the staff was great. This open air venue provides a great place to people watch and the food is nothing short of fantastic.
Hotel Riazor.
Hotel Riazor is on the same side of the street as Manolo's Restaurante. I have never stayed there but I have heard some good reviews so it will be on my radar for future trips.
Club 305 Hotel.
Club 305 Hotel is a high end casa de cita on the same side of the street as Manolo's restaurant east of Avenida Pasture. I chose not to spend 4000 pesos and hour this trip.
Bodega Indepencia.
Bodega Indepencia is a colmado that sells alcohol and refreshments. It is on the same side of the street as Club 305. There are tables and chairs outside and it is a local hangout for people in the area. There are reportedly freelancers available during different times of the week especially during the weekends.
Villas Hnos.
At the intersection of Avenida Indepencia and Avenida Pasture is a staple of Gazcue. Villas Hnos has a cafeteria style restaurant a bakery and a separate outdoor caf next to the cafeteria. The cafeteria provides modestly prices food and is almost always busy any time of day.
The caf is more upscale than the cafeteria and is an outdoor venue with a very classy vibe and efficient wait staff. I would consider it a 4 star restaurant and if you are not careful you can spend 1500 pesos easy for dinner however the food is great.
Hotel Duque Wellington.
Hotel Duque Wellington is next door to Villas Hnos caf and appears to be an obscure small time hotel. I did not visit but perhaps I will investigate further in the future.
Navarro Hotel & Restaurant.
The Navarro Hotel Restaurant is on the same side of the street as Hotel Duque Wellington. I used the hotel as a short time venue about 2 years ago and I was not impressed with the towels and small rooms. I may visit again in the future to see if anything has changed. I have not eaten at the restaurant so I cannot comment.
Closing thoughts.
I saw freelance street walkers during my stay but since I was preoccupied I did not partake. They usually walk or stand in the area of Avenida Indepencia between Malolo's and the Navarro Hotel as well as congregate at the Bodega.
My major complaint is because this a major tourist area there are many touts trying to get paid. If you hear someone say "hey my fren" trust me he wants to get paid for being an unofficial guide so to speak. I find them more annoying than harmful. They could be trying to rob you instead for the most part they are street hustlers who can help you find anything you want if you know what I mean.
Conclusion.
I love this area for the restaurant options alone and the lodging options are more than acceptable also. The area is comfortable for many extranjeros because many people speak English due to it being a tourist area.
I walked around at night but I was very aware of my surroundings at no point did I feel unsafe and there was an occasional police presence in the area. I will definitely return to check out some of the hotel options that I have yet to experience.Thanks for all the good info, I have been in POP and Sosua several times but not SD, booked for a trip in August to SD.
BoricuaOnline
05-26-15, 23:01
Gentlemen, is Viagra (and its generic brands) available in Santo Domingo pharmacies without a prescription? What's the price for the generics?
ThanksIt is available on pharmacies, supermarkets, gas stations, restaurants, bars, some hotels, almost everywhere except in the church. The time I visited the cathedral there were none for sale.
BoricuaOnline
05-26-15, 23:45
Conclusion.
I love this area for the restaurant options alone and the lodging options are more than acceptable also. The area is comfortable for many extranjeros because many people speak English due to it being a tourist area.
I walked around at night but I was very aware of my surroundings at no point did I feel unsafe and there was an occasional police presence in the area. I will definitely return to check out some of the hotel options that I have yet to experience.Gazcue is my center of operations everytime I visit Santo Domingo. I prefer it over Zona Colonial. A few comments about your report: Bodega Independencia, I got a girl from there once, it was a good experience.
Sometimes there are girls on Danae street around the small hotels of the area.
Behind Manolos there is a restaurant that is a must visit for tourists: El Conuco. La Cadena is a supermarket that is just a block away from El Conuco. One block east and you will find Louis Philiphe restaurant with 100 pesos lunch special, it is just steps from Hostal San francisco de Asis. A couple of blocks north in Pasteur and Delgado there is a money exchange house in front of a Pizza Hut.
Streetgirls sometimes use parkings of places as for example the university college next to Sheraton hotel for short term sex. Security guard let the girls use the area for 100 pesos per client.
Touts are sometimes annoying but they are not dangerous, they once were very helpful and with me trying to find my cousin. I got drunk and went out of Pure for a 500 pesos blowjob, I left him with two ladies that were mad because I just leave without them.
Manolos and Riazor hotel are owned by the same people, you get a free breakfast on Manolos with your stay on Riazor.
Check the airbnb website. There are hundreds of short and long term house and apartments for rent available.
Hi,
I've been lurking for a while, and it seems like most guys stay in chica friendly hotels in Santo Domingo. I want to go there for 2-3 months so I think an apartment would be better for me (cheaper, more amenities). With kitchen, WiFi, washer, dryer, AC. Any ideas where to find such an apt? Thanks in advance to anyone with intel on the subject.I would recommend to check the apartment amenities and reviews carefully. Make sure apartment has everything you need. I rented an apartment for a week on malecon and it was really bad. The internet did not work and the lady in charge of apartment was in no hurry to fix it. It was right on malecon and extremely noisy 24/7 and I had difficulty to sleep. Ask the owner all the questions before you make the commitment. You can not cancel after you pay. They have cancellation policy but it is not practical and you get stuck with the apartment.
No he is trying to say that the local brand of generic sildenafil (the ingredient in the brand name Viagra) is LaPela, so the information is basically correct. There are also other brands available in the DR. But if you ask for generic sildenafil or tadalafil, you should be sure to get the right stuff. I would not buy from guys in the street, because they just buy the cheap generics and then sell them on to you for ten times the price. You can get them in any pharmacy and there are many pharmacies.I have had real mixed reviews with Viagra and its generic version Sidenafil in the DR.
I have bought Real Viagra there for around $12 a pill and it was real but Manufactured in Mexico. I found it didn't work or barely worked. I Have also bought Generics for a few dollars a piece that didn't work at all.
Then I bought some of the real cheap sildenafil at a pharmacy (Forget which one) for about. 25 cents a piece and the thing worked like a champ. Just a crap shoot I guess what you get down there and its overall efectiveness compared to other countries.
I think El Conuco is decent, the atmosphere can be good but food quality has been a hit or miss for me. Similar to Adrian Tropical, where the atmosphere is good and the view of the sea is great but my last two experiences were underwhelming. I personally rate Villar Hermanos to be higher than El Conuco and Adrian Tropical if we're looking at good authentic Dominican cuisine. But they are all worth checking out. I would also add in there the'Luis Parillada which is open until midnight or 1 AM and is close by, just down the Malecon. Good sancocho and mofongo. Santo Domingo has a very good dining scene, when going out with DC chicas I've never had an issue with finding a good place that we'll both enjoy, whether it's authentic dominican cuisine, mexican cuisine, seafood, etc. If you're willing to spend a little bit, any one of the restaurants by Plaza España in Zona Colonial is good. My favorite being Pat'e Palo. It is on the expensive side for Santo Domingo, but very good food.
I have never had an issue with authentic Viagra or Sildenafil in DR. Easy to buy, and very cheap especially the generic. There are places where you can buy a few dozen Sildenafil pills for something like $30-$40. I bought 96 from Sosua last year, and still have half. Have not faced a situation where it hasn't worked for me.
Camaro1257
05-27-15, 06:14
Gazcue is my center of operations everytime I visit Santo Domingo. I prefer it over Zona Colonial. A few comments about your report: Bodega Independencia, I got a girl from there once, it was a good experience.
Sometimes there are girls on Danae street around the small hotels of the area.
Behind Manolos there is a restaurant that is a must visit for tourists: El Conuco. La Cadena is a supermarket that is just a block away from El Conuco. One block east and you will find Louis Philiphe restaurant with 100 pesos lunch special, it is just steps from Hostal San francisco de Asis. A couple of blocks north in Pasteur and Delgado there is a money exchange house in front of a Pizza Hut.
Streetgirls sometimes use parkings of places as for example the university college next to Sheraton hotel for short term sex. Security guard let the girls use the area for 100 pesos per client.
Touts are sometimes annoying but they are not dangerous, they once were very helpful and with me trying to find my cousin. I got drunk and went out of Pure for a 500 pesos blowjob, I left him with two ladies that were mad because I just leave without them.
Manolos and Riazor hotel are owned by the same people, you get a free breakfast on Manolos with your stay on Riazor.Thanks, I will visit some of the places you mentioned and make an addendum to this report.
Brothers! Is anyone familiar with the Villa Altagracia section of Santo Domingo? A buddy of mine who lives in sosua is being told by chicas he can live better there for cheaper. I'm not sure he can live safely in a Dominican area. Just my opinion. Has any one partied and or hunted in this area? Some pros are cool, but I'm always a little skeptical of what they say. Thanks in advance!
Charles Pooter
05-27-15, 16:55
Brothers! Is anyone familiar with the Villa Altagracia section of Santo Domingo? A buddy of mine who lives in Sosua is being told by chicas he can live better there for cheaper. I'm not sure he can live safely in a Dominican area. Just my opinion. Has any one partied and or hunted in this area? Some pros are cool, but I'm always a little skeptical of what they say. Thanks in advance!It is a separate township, about 30 kilometers from the center of SC, conveniently located on the main highway to La Vega and Santiago.
It is a desperately poor area with a high percentage of Haitian residents, so he could certainly live there cheaper. Whether he would enjoy more than 2 to 3 hours of electricity per day, water more than three times a week, refuse collection, police protection from robberies, and so on, I have no idea.
Affluent people all over the world live in some of the biggest shit-holes, so there may be comfortable, gated estates there. I only know the bit where two of my girlfriends lived, and that was the pits.
Marc Anthony
05-30-15, 21:55
I'm USA citizen, how long can I stay in DR as a tourist? I can't find any information online where it gives a hard limit. It always says "60 days and then you can ask for more time or pay a fine when you leave and the fine is small". Does this mean I can stay all year? If not how many days per year? In Colombia, for example, I am limited to 6 months per year. Does DR have such a restriction?This is a more subtle issue than you might expect. The tourist card is good for 30 days which is also how long you are legal driving on a foreign license. If you don't drive there may be some other issues but in practice you can stay as long as you like and pay an overstay fee when you leave. Thousands of snowbirds who often own property in the DR stay all winter on this basis. There is a regular table for overstay fees based on time out to 10 years. It's not clear whether this is 100% legal at the moment or not but it's ordinary practice and you'd get contradictory opinions from different Dominican lawyers and officials. The underlying politics are connected to Dominican legal status of Haitians, not most tourists. DR1 is a better forum to understand this. The bottom line is there isn't any real barrier to staying as long as you want but it's worth understanding the subtleties. Issues are connected to what your status means if you get in an accident or get arrested or have some other problem while overstaying in the DR. Most people pay no attention and just pay a fee at the airport when departing with no problems.
I find the casas de citas en Santo Domingo too expensive. They charge around 4000 pesos for two hours. Wasn't expecting prices to be so high here. Also I think two hours is excessive. I would much rather pay 2000 pesos for one hour but they don't offer that. Where do I find streetwalkers and independents for 1000-2000 pesos? I don't see them anywhere. I found the following mongering map but is it too old to be useful? Thanks in advance for any info on cheaper options.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=18.480627, -69.965143&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0. 009891,0. 019248&z=16&mid=zkJpJBI74 G4 A. KcRRKE_gH90 k.
Troubleman69
06-01-15, 17:05
I find the casas de citas en Santo Domingo too expensive. They charge around 4000 pesos for two hours. Wasn't expecting prices to be so high here. Also I think two hours is excessive. I would much rather pay 2000 pesos for one hour but they don't offer that. Where do I find streetwalkers and independents for 1000-2000 pesos? I don't see them anywhere. I found the following mongering map but is it too old to be useful? Thanks in advance for any info on cheaper options.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=18.480627, -69.965143&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0. 009891,0. 019248&z=16&mid=zkJpJBI74 G4 A. KcRRKE_gH90 k.I don't mess with streetwalkers, but I just came back from SD on Friday, and I saw some in the usual places on Independencia near Pasteur. In the past I've also seen them going west on the Malecon / George Washington, but you'll need a car / taxi for that. Be careful with trannies being out there on the Malecon.
Mr Enternational
06-01-15, 17:33
I find the casas de citas en Santo Domingo too expensive. They charge around 4000 pesos for two hours. Wasn't expecting prices to be so high here. Also I think two hours is excessive. I would much rather pay 2000 pesos for one hour but they don't offer that. Where do I find streetwalkers and independents for 1000-2000 pesos? I don't see them anywhere. I found the following mongering map but is it too old to be useful? Thanks in advance for any info on cheaper optionsHence, those in the know go to GBP for 1000.
Please don't give those SWs 2000 pesos. You should be able to get any of them to go with you for 800-1000. Boricua reported that some will just give head for 500. Remember to watch your stuff because they do steal. Although you can find a handful scattered on Indy in the vicinity of Manolo's, the majority of them are on the malecon (George Washington). They usually start in front of the Sheraton and continue down a couple of miles.
Thanks for the info. GBP = Gimnasio Bar Privado? How are the girls there? Is there anything 7+ there? Is the streetwalker scene on the Avenida Independencia and the Malecon only a night time thing? At what hours do you find them there?
Thanks for the info. GBP = Gimnasio Bar Privado? How are the girls there? Is there anything 7+ there? Is the streetwalker scene on the Avenida Independencia and the Malecon only a night time thing? At what hours do you find them there?You can find them after 9 PM. There are more on both streets midnight or later.
Thanks for the info. GBP = Gimnasio Bar Privado? How are the girls there? Is there anything 7+ there? Is the streetwalker scene on the Avenida Independencia and the Malecon only a night time thing? At what hours do you find them there?GBP is good, not a big location and is not the easiest to find either but it's very good for the value. Last time I was there was late 2014, and there were a few 7+ chicas. I had a hard time deciding, but the one I settled on was 1500 for an hour. BBBJ, CFS, a good experience overall.
Streetwalkers you can find all over the Malecon (George Washington), usually right between the Crowne Plaza and Pasteur, down to the Jaragua and further on. I have seen them during the daytime on Avenida Independencia between the same block and a couple walking down towards Parque Independencia and Zona Colonial. Take some caution while walking down AI during the day, I usually see a few shady characters walking along the road and looking around a bit much as if they were looking for someone to take advantage of. Never been with a streewalker in Santo Domingo, I have seen a couple decent looking ones at night, but never indulged (Sosua is much better for that). You can also find some chicas in the casinos on George Washington.
Thanks. GBP sounds like a good place for me. How many chicas do they present you? What are their hours of operation? Is the address Ave 27 de Febrero No. 238? I will go there tomorrow. Tonight I'm going to hit the Malecon and Ave Independencia and see what kinda filth I can scrounge up.
Thanks. GBP sounds like a good place for me. How many chicas do they present you? What are their hours of operation? Is the address Ave 27 de Febrero No. 238? I will go there tomorrow. Tonight I'm going to hit the Malecon and Ave Independencia and see what kinda filth I can scrounge up.Not sure about the hours, but I went there around 3:30-4:00 PM and it was open. If I had to guess I'd say it's open for some daytime action and more than likely into the late evening hours. It is on 27th de Febrero, it's in a plaza right next to a dealership. If you have trouble finding it or tell a cab drive and he does not know exactly where, just tell them Arismendy Motors on 27 de Febrero, there is a plaza next to it and you go up to GBP. As for how many chicas. I remember seeing 10-12 chicas the time I went, it could have been slightly more however. Since I was there in the late afternoon it's possible more chicas showed up later and I have never been there past 6 PM. Usually in SD I'm there to meet a DC chica, and I reserve my evenings for that and GBP for daytime action.
I have had excellent results with SWs in SD. I usually stay in on El Conde in the colon Zona. Almost all have given good service. I have even repeated with several. I found that many are more semi pros who get very little action. I for one hate casas. The lack of employment in the DR means that some nice girls have to sell their bodies to feed their babies. If you make the experience for them relaxing good things can happen. I had a SW who I had repeated with come by on my last day and give me a freebie. I found in the DR there are girls who are opportunist who will sell some pussy if the occasion arises.
I took a SW from Ave Independencia tonight. It's pretty slim pickings there though. Still haven't hit the GBP. It's a full time job texting new DC chicas and setting up meetings. I agree that Santo Domingo is great for the semi-pro scene. A lot of chicas on DC will bang for free if you pay their cab. I like the Puntz79 plan of hitting GBP in the day and then meet a DC chica at night.
I don't mess with streetwalkers, but I just came back from SD on Friday, and I saw some in the usual places on Independencia near Pasteur. In the past I've also seen them going west on the Malecon / George Washington, but you'll need a car / taxi for that. Be careful with trannies being out there on the Malecon.Had picked up several streetwalkers on Malecon and right across from Manolos, its hit or miss. One was surprisingly good, quick but very proficient BJ in car, had I known her skills I would have taken her to casa right away, as she was cute and very willing; the other ones, duds; one was working local cops, was stopped immediately after picked her up, couldn't be a coincidence, had to pay propina. Cop let me go and we went to casa and she was a dud. YMMV, I guess; seems like they are all on the hustle which is to be expected but not my thing.
Had picked up several streetwalkers on Malecon and right across from Manolos, its hit or miss. One was surprisingly good, quick but very proficient BJ in car, had I known her skills I would have taken her to casa right away, as she was cute and very willing; the other ones, duds; one was working local cops, was stopped immediately after picked her up, couldn't be a coincidence, had to pay propina. Cop let me go and we went to casa and she was a dud. YMMV, I guess; seems like they are all on the hustle which is to be expected but not my thing.I thought prostitution was legal in the DR so why would they hassle tourists for picking up a prostitute?
Charles Pooter
06-04-15, 15:34
I thought prostitution was legal in the DR so why would they hassle tourists for picking up a prostitute?Prostitution is not illegal, but soliciting prostitutes may be. The law (like most Dominican laws) is unclear, but who is going to argue with an armed cop when all he wants is a modest propina?
Alex Deuce
06-06-15, 03:18
Prostitution is not illegal, but soliciting prostitutes may be. The law (like most Dominican laws) is unclear, but who is going to argue with an armed cop when all he wants is a modest propina?Prostitution is legal, pimping in any form is not and that includes casas / brothels. This is well established. A hooker can not be arrested, save for loitering and other public nuisance ordinances, but you can for solicitation.
Finally hit GBP today, it was good. I took a 20 yo with great body. BBBJ, CFS. 1000 pesos. My only complaint about the place is it's too dark in the bar area where you choose a girl. You can barely see the merchandise.
Are there any more places similar to GBP? There's a place on the monger map called "Pink Bar Lounge" on La Ave Venezuela for 1500/ session. Anyone know if it's still open?
What about the regular bars that have working girls (La Ave Venezuela or anywhere else)? What would you pay to take one to your apt for short time? I hate going to those places because I'm not a drinker, but options are limited in Santo Domingo and I like variety.
I've heard of guys picking up on El Conde too. The girls I've seen walking there don't seem like they are working though. Am I missing something? I've basically given up on Ave Independencia. Slim pickings. Worn out girls with lots of excess body fat.
I have a regular I met on DC that comes over evenings. That plus GBP and I'm starting to warm up to this place. It's not as bad as I thought. Thanks again gentlemen for the intel.
Camaro1257
06-06-15, 12:22
Camaro's view of Calle El Conde June 2015.
Calle El Conde is part of the Colonial City of Santo Domingo (Zona Colonial). It travels west to east from Parque Colon to Parque Indepencia It is a pedestrian only street with restaurants, hotels, outdoor vendors and stores. Cars only drive on the side intersecting streets but not on El Conde itself.
Recently I completed a report on the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo and this report will be much the same. I will briefly review the places I have visited and give some landmarks for some others. This is not a complete view of the area and the thread can be updated with additional information.
I will start at Parque Colon and travel west noting significant locations.
Parque Colon.
Parque Colon is the central square of the Colonial City and it has a statue of Christopher Columbus in the center and it is next to the First Cathedral of the Americas.
During the day there is a mix between tourist and locals walking around the park and sitting on the park benches. At night it remains a chill spot with a comfortable breeze however there are street walkers some of which who wonder the park and some of which who sit on the benches.
On my visit while I was waiting for my date one of the ladies of the night approached me and asked "donde quedes?" and when I said "estoy esperando por una mujer" she walked away with a sad face. The pros are distinguishable from the regular women not so much by their clothing but by their eye contact and willingness to interact with you.
Hotel Conde de Penalba.
Hotel Conde de Penalba is on Calle El Conde next to Parque Colon & La Primada Catredal de Las Americas on the far-east end of Calle El Conde. The hotel has a bar and restaurant on the bottom floor.
The hotel is inside an old refurbished colonial building. The receptionist was an older lady maybe in her 40's and she kept flirting with me I cannot figure out why for the life of me. I had a small room with a queen size bed small table and chairs along with a dresser and flat screen television. There was a key room safe inside the closet.
The bathroom was immaculate and there were 4 towels. The WIFI was sporadic but the cable worked well and the room was very comfortable. My complaints would be my room had no outside window and some kind of way a mosquito got in and was harassing me. In addition my room was next to the front desk so I could hear an unnecessary amount of noise. When I arrived security helped me with my bags but when I gave him 100 pesos tip dude didn't even say "gracias" GTFOOHWTBS!
Hotel Conde de Penalba Restaurante.
The hotel restaurant is downstairs, there is a bar indoor section of the restaurant with doors open that lead to the patio which faces Parque Colon with a great view. The menu includes traditional hanburgers and fries pastas and seafood. The average dish was 300 pesos and the high end seafood dish was 900 pesos.
A simple breakfast is included in your hotel stay which included eggs to order, bacon toast and juice. The staff was very polite and courteous.
Onno Night Club.
Onno Night Club is on Calle Ostos right of Calle El Conde. This is a regular club with a bar dance floor and tables and chairs. It is a small establishment that can hold no more than 100 people and it appeared to be a middle class establishment patronized by professional people.
Caf Roma Pizzaria.
Caf Roma Pizzaria is one of many restaurants on El Conde it is significant because it is a hang-out spot for many Santo Domngo ex-pats. Some of the Santo Domingo ex-pats call the location the office. They gather there eat, drink Presidentes and chica watch. There is often live entertainment in front of the restaurant also.
Hotel Mercure.
Hotel Mercure is on Calle El Conde and the lobby includes a restaurant bar with seating inside and outside. The hotel registration desk is located behind the restaurant. If you enter from the El Conde side you will be entering the restaurant but the hotel entrance is on the side street around the corner.
My room was a mid-sized room and very clean and neat in appearance. There was a closet with an electronic safe. There was an old school 18 inch television the cable worked well along with the air conditioner.
There was a refrigerator but no mini bar. The bathroom was clean with a walk up shower. You take a step up about a foot into the shower I have never seen that before. I love he bathroom because for once there are plenty of towels. I think 4 towels should be enough don't you?
My complaints would include the fact that there were only 2 electric outlets easily visible I later found 2 more under the lamp stand next to the bed. WIFI works in the lobby but not in the room which SUCKS! If I didn't have my hot spot that would be a major inconvenience because sometimes I like to play music from YOUTUBE for my dates. The reception staff was polite however there was no bellman to take your bags.
Hotel Mercure Restaurant.
The hotel restaurant has 2 sections, the first is outside facing El Conde and the second is inside with a bar. The ambiance is very nice in both locations. The problem with the outside portion of the restaurant is there are only 5 tables so it fills up quick but sitting inside is comfortable also.
A breakfast bar is included with eggs, bacon, fried potatoes a bread & fruit bar with different types of juice. There was no mangu or fried cheese like many other Dominican restaurants.
For dinner I had a chicken wrap and salad which was very good. The chicken was obviously marinated because it did not have the typical dry bland taste. I do not recall seeing any Comida Tipica on the menu and they served the typical chicken and fish dinners ranging from 300-600 pesos. I found the wait staff to be very cordial and helpful and the dining experience to be very good.
Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel.
This is a 2 star hotel at best its location is obscure but can be found at the corner of El Conde and Calle Espaillat. You go through a wood door and walk up 2 flights of steps and have to be buzzed in by the receptionist. I hope you speak Spanish because she speaks no English.
The room is old and worn with only 1 towel despite the fact I booked for 2. The walls were stained and the bed felt like I was sitting on a board and springs. There was a safe with key and the cable worked well but the little 18 inch flat screen TV could hardly be seen.
There were only (2) 3 prong electrical outlets I could use for my laptop that were next to the refrigerator. The WIFI was intermittent. The highlight of the room is the balcony that gives you a view of El Conde.
Dama Imperial Restaurant.
The Dama Imperial Restaurant is downstairs from the Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. You can sit inside or outside on Calle El Conde. The music was contemporary rock and the breeze on El Conde was very comfortable. It was late in the evening when I ate so some of my menu selections were unavailable. I had my favorite mero a la plancha with a nice garlic sauce. It was light and not filling but tasty. Most standard menu items were no more than 500 pesos.
My waitress wasn't the nicest person in the world but over all I would return since the food was and the location were decent.
Cosmo Centro.
Cosmo Central is a salon and beauty supply location on El Conde a few steps from Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. I asked for a haircut and shave for 300 pesos and the barber gave me a full facial without my consent. Everytime I asked about the extended service he would respond saying "tranquilo!" After demanding he stop the treatment the barber handed me a bill for 1500 pesos. I insisted on them calling the police and they relented telling me to pay what I wanted. I paid 400 pesos and walked out.
This is one of many reports about vendors trying to take advantage of tourist and everyone in the area needs to be aware of the upsell.
Paco's Grande -El Conde.
One of the staples of El Conde is the restaurant Paco's Grande. I had the "plato de DIA" chicken, rice beans and salad and drink was 200 pesos. This has become the hang out location for homosexuals in the area. There were not very many gays present in fact there was some female eye candy that was great for my viewing pleasure.
Despite its reputation during the day you can sit outside and enjoy the view and the energy of El Conde. I thoroughly enjoy the staff which are generally very attentive.
Calle El Conde Observations.
Calle El Conde is full of energy during the day. Tourist and locals and can be seen walking to and fro and there is also live entertainment from contemporary guitar trios to drum and conga quartets. Locals could be seen playing chess and cards adding a realness to the experience.
This area has an authentic Dominican feel because there were no US staples like Burger King or McDonalds. The restaurant chains were local such as Pollo Rey and Bon Ice Cream Shop. There was a plethora of restaurants, pastry and ice cream shops something for almost any taste.
There are independent touts and taxi drivers that will offer to make a "chica connection. " Touts will generally disarm you with their friendliness and familiarity with the United States; they are fast talkers that have the ability to give the impression that they are dong you a favor. I have not used this service because I believe it is only for the desperate. They will steer you to Santo Domingo's high end casa de citas where you have to pay 4000 pesos or more for sex. They are not threatening and take a firm "no" as an answer they are used to rejection. If you have no other alternative they are an option but I prefer to do without.
One of the main things I hate about El Conde and Santo Domingo in general is the taxistas. At El Conde they generally will start by quoting a price in dollars that can be as much as twice what the going rate is. Even if you negotiate them down in pesos the prices are still inflated because El Conde is a tourist area and their objective is to make money off the gringo. My advice is to never pay in dollars and never pay the first price offered.
There is a CESTUR tourist police post on El Conde along with a constant police presence at no time did I feel unsafe.
Conclusion.
El Conde is a lively area during the day the area with street characters and is ripe with toto, from tourist to civilian-non pros and a few professionals that will try to make eye contact. Most of the pro action leaves much to be desired but occasionally you can find a gem especially around the Parque Colon area.
I have said that I like the Gazcue area better than El Conde but after this visit I would have to say they are neck and neck. El Conde has the advantage because of its parks and since everything is centrally located it is more convenient because in Gazcue everything is more spread out. I recommend you try both areas of Santo Domingo and decide for yourself.
Nice job with the report, you notice a lot of details.
Taxis: You are spot on. The solution is very easy- avoid the taxi guys who hang around the Conde and call a taxi instead. The taxi you call will arrive in no more then two or three minutes (they wait nearby). If you can't speak Spanish, have a hotel employee or someone else call for you. Confirm the fare ("tarifa" 200 to 250 pesos will get you anywhere in the center city from Gazcue or the Colonial Zone. North to JFK, east to San Isidro, or west to Nunez de Caceres.
Conde authentic Dominican: I think the Conde is one of the least Dominican areas in the entire country that is outside of an all inclusive resort- just my opinion. Go to the Sirena up the hill from the Conde and look around, you will see what I mean.
Hotels: You gave a great tip about travel and hotels- ask for a room on a higher floor that is not near stairs, elevators, receptions desks, or vending machines. They are left for people who don't know enough to avoid them.
Camaro's view of Calle El Conde June 2015.
Calle El Conde is part of the Colonial City of Santo Domingo (Zona Colonial). It travels west to east from Parque Colon to Parque Indepencia It is a pedestrian only street with restaurants, hotels, outdoor vendors and stores. Cars only drive on the side intersecting streets but not on El Conde itself.
Recently I completed a report on the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo and this report will be much the same. I will briefly review the places I have visited and give some landmarks for some others. This is not a complete view of the area and the thread can be updated with additional information.
I will start at Parque Colon and travel west noting significant locations.
Parque Colon.
Parque Colon is the central square of the Colonial City and it has a statue of Christopher Columbus in the center and it is next to the First Cathedral of the Americas...
Camaro's view of Calle El Conde June 2015.
Calle El Conde is part of the Colonial City of Santo Domingo (Zona Colonial). It travels west to east from Parque Colon to Parque Indepencia It is a pedestrian only street with restaurants, hotels, outdoor vendors and stores. Cars only drive on the side intersecting streets but not on El Conde itself.
Recently I completed a report on the Gazcue area of Santo Domingo and this report will be much the same. I will briefly review the places I have visited and give some landmarks for some others. This is not a complete view of the area and the thread can be updated with additional information.
I will start at Parque Colon and travel west noting significant locations.
Parque Colon.
Parque Colon is the central square of the Colonial City and it has a statue of Christopher Columbus in the center and it is next to the First Cathedral of the Americas.
During the day there is a mix between tourist and locals walking around the park and sitting on the park benches. At night it remains a chill spot with a comfortable breeze however there are street walkers some of which who wonder the park and some of which who sit on the benches.
On my visit while I was waiting for my date one of the ladies of the night approached me and asked "donde quedes?" and when I said "estoy esperando por una mujer" she walked away with a sad face. The pros are distinguishable from the regular women not so much by their clothing but by their eye contact and willingness to interact with you.
Hotel Conde de Penalba.
Hotel Conde de Penalba is on Calle El Conde next to Parque Colon & La Primada Catredal de Las Americas on the far-east end of Calle El Conde. The hotel has a bar and restaurant on the bottom floor.
The hotel is inside an old refurbished colonial building. The receptionist was an older lady maybe in her 40's and she kept flirting with me I cannot figure out why for the life of me. I had a small room with a queen size bed small table and chairs along with a dresser and flat screen television. There was a key room safe inside the closet.
The bathroom was immaculate and there were 4 towels. The WIFI was sporadic but the cable worked well and the room was very comfortable. My complaints would be my room had no outside window and some kind of way a mosquito got in and was harassing me. In addition my room was next to the front desk so I could hear an unnecessary amount of noise. When I arrived security helped me with my bags but when I gave him 100 pesos tip dude didn't even say "gracias" GTFOOHWTBS!
Hotel Conde de Penalba Restaurante.
The hotel restaurant is downstairs, there is a bar indoor section of the restaurant with doors open that lead to the patio which faces Parque Colon with a great view. The menu includes traditional hanburgers and fries pastas and seafood. The average dish was 300 pesos and the high end seafood dish was 900 pesos.
A simple breakfast is included in your hotel stay which included eggs to order, bacon toast and juice. The staff was very polite and courteous.
Onno Night Club.
Onno Night Club is on Calle Ostos right of Calle El Conde. This is a regular club with a bar dance floor and tables and chairs. It is a small establishment that can hold no more than 100 people and it appeared to be a middle class establishment patronized by professional people.
Caf Roma Pizzaria.
Caf Roma Pizzaria is one of many restaurants on El Conde it is significant because it is a hang-out spot for many Santo Domngo ex-pats. Some of the Santo Domingo ex-pats call the location the office. They gather there eat, drink Presidentes and chica watch. There is often live entertainment in front of the restaurant also.
Hotel Mercure.
Hotel Mercure is on Calle El Conde and the lobby includes a restaurant bar with seating inside and outside. The hotel registration desk is located behind the restaurant. If you enter from the El Conde side you will be entering the restaurant but the hotel entrance is on the side street around the corner.
My room was a mid-sized room and very clean and neat in appearance. There was a closet with an electronic safe. There was an old school 18 inch television the cable worked well along with the air conditioner.
There was a refrigerator but no mini bar. The bathroom was clean with a walk up shower. You take a step up about a foot into the shower I have never seen that before. I love he bathroom because for once there are plenty of towels. I think 4 towels should be enough don't you?
My complaints would include the fact that there were only 2 electric outlets easily visible I later found 2 more under the lamp stand next to the bed. WIFI works in the lobby but not in the room which SUCKS! If I didn't have my hot spot that would be a major inconvenience because sometimes I like to play music from YOUTUBE for my dates. The reception staff was polite however there was no bellman to take your bags.
Hotel Mercure Restaurant.
The hotel restaurant has 2 sections, the first is outside facing El Conde and the second is inside with a bar. The ambiance is very nice in both locations. The problem with the outside portion of the restaurant is there are only 5 tables so it fills up quick but sitting inside is comfortable also.
A breakfast bar is included with eggs, bacon, fried potatoes a bread & fruit bar with different types of juice. There was no mangu or fried cheese like many other Dominican restaurants.
For dinner I had a chicken wrap and salad which was very good. The chicken was obviously marinated because it did not have the typical dry bland taste. I do not recall seeing any Comida Tipica on the menu and they served the typical chicken and fish dinners ranging from 300-600 pesos. I found the wait staff to be very cordial and helpful and the dining experience to be very good.
Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel.
This is a 2 star hotel at best its location is obscure but can be found at the corner of El Conde and Calle Espaillat. You go through a wood door and walk up 2 flights of steps and have to be buzzed in by the receptionist. I hope you speak Spanish because she speaks no English.
The room is old and worn with only 1 towel despite the fact I booked for 2. The walls were stained and the bed felt like I was sitting on a board and springs. There was a safe with key and the cable worked well but the little 18 inch flat screen TV could hardly be seen.
There were only (2) 3 prong electrical outlets I could use for my laptop that were next to the refrigerator. The WIFI was intermittent. The highlight of the room is the balcony that gives you a view of El Conde.
Dama Imperial Restaurant.
The Dama Imperial Restaurant is downstairs from the Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. You can sit inside or outside on Calle El Conde. The music was contemporary rock and the breeze on El Conde was very comfortable. It was late in the evening when I ate so some of my menu selections were unavailable. I had my favorite mero a la plancha with a nice garlic sauce. It was light and not filling but tasty. Most standard menu items were no more than 500 pesos.
My waitress wasn't the nicest person in the world but over all I would return since the food was and the location were decent.
Cosmo Centro.
Cosmo Central is a salon and beauty supply location on El Conde a few steps from Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. I asked for a haircut and shave for 300 pesos and the barber gave me a full facial without my consent. Everytime I asked about the extended service he would respond saying "tranquilo!" After demanding he stop the treatment the barber handed me a bill for 1500 pesos. I insisted on them calling the police and they relented telling me to pay what I wanted. I paid 400 pesos and walked out.
This is one of many reports about vendors trying to take advantage of tourist and everyone in the area needs to be aware of the upsell.
Paco's Grande -El Conde.
One of the staples of El Conde is the restaurant Paco's Grande. I had the "plato de DIA" chicken, rice beans and salad and drink was 200 pesos. This has become the hang out location for homosexuals in the area. There were not very many gays present in fact there was some female eye candy that was great for my viewing pleasure.
Despite its reputation during the day you can sit outside and enjoy the view and the energy of El Conde. I thoroughly enjoy the staff which are generally very attentive.
Calle El Conde Observations.
Calle El Conde is full of energy during the day. Tourist and locals and can be seen walking to and fro and there is also live entertainment from contemporary guitar trios to drum and conga quartets. Locals could be seen playing chess and cards adding a realness to the experience.
This area has an authentic Dominican feel because there were no US staples like Burger King or McDonalds. The restaurant chains were local such as Pollo Rey and Bon Ice Cream Shop. There was a plethora of restaurants, pastry and ice cream shops something for almost any taste.
There are independent touts and taxi drivers that will offer to make a "chica connection. " Touts will generally disarm you with their friendliness and familiarity with the United States; they are fast talkers that have the ability to give the impression that they are dong you a favor. I have not used this service because I believe it is only for the desperate. They will steer you to Santo Domingo's high end casa de citas where you have to pay 4000 pesos or more for sex. They are not threatening and take a firm "no" as an answer they are used to rejection. If you have no other alternative they are an option but I prefer to do without.
One of the main things I hate about El Conde and Santo Domingo in general is the taxistas. At El Conde they generally will start by quoting a price in dollars that can be as much as twice what the going rate is. Even if you negotiate them down in pesos the prices are still inflated because El Conde is a tourist area and their objective is to make money off the gringo. My advice is to never pay in dollars and never pay the first price offered.
There is a CESTUR tourist police post on El Conde along with a constant police presence at no time did I feel unsafe.
Conclusion.
El Conde is a lively area during the day the area with street characters and is ripe with toto, from tourist to civilian-non pros and a few professionals that will try to make eye contact. Most of the pro action leaves much to be desired but occasionally you can find a gem especially around the Parque Colon area.
I have said that I like the Gazcue area better than El Conde but after this visit I would have to say they are neck and neck. El Conde has the advantage because of its parks and since everything is centrally located it is more convenient because in Gazcue everything is more spread out. I recommend you try both areas of Santo Domingo and decide for yourself.In August I will sit and have a beer in Gazcue and El Conde and thank you again for taking the time to write the great reports.
Great report again Sir. One thing I would like to add that is very important; newbies need to pay close attention to which parks you hangout in near El Conde. There are probably 6 parks within walking distance to El Conde and four are well know for alternative shit. Hanging out at the wrong park can get you classified as "searching" on the sly. I had a veteran walk me around and show me witch parks to stay away from.
Very good report, with lots of useful in there. I'd say you nailed it on the head with a lot of what you said. I like the El Conde area due to it being walkable and in Zona Colonial, which is excellent to walk around. Most of the time though I stay in Gazcue, but the couple times I have stayed in Zona Colonial I have found it to be a lot more convenient and that I ended up using less taxis since most everything I needed was within walking distance. Even walking towards Gazcue is not bad, I have done it in under 20 minutes and during the daytime it's safe to walk between both areas but just use common sense and don't wander off the main roads.
I agree that Calle El Conde is authentic dominican. Mostly local shops / restaurants and while the tourist shops probably take away from some of the authenticity, I can see it being more geared towards dominican tourists rather than western tourists in a way. If anyone has been to Buenos Aires, you could somewhat compare Calle El Conde to Florida Street. But without elegance. Florida Street is great for tourists from anywhere in the world, Calle El Conde. Somewhat different. The artwork from street vendors is interesting. The touts are annoying and look hard to identify tourists and walk up to them, but that's expected. Never had an issue with anyone bothering me even after saying "no gracias" and continue walking.
Onno's Bar is a good spot, there was a decent mix of middle / upper-class Dominican's and even a few tourists. There are some good looking women, and there is an open air bar area in the back that you can take them to for a better opportunity to talk. The inside is usually packed with very little room to move. I believe it's a restaurant earlier in the evening before switching to bar / club mode at night.
As others have said, taxi's trying to rip off tourists is not uncommon. Especially the ones that are looking for customers in Zona Colonial or in front of hotels in Santo Domingo. If they mention a price in dollars, you know that's not a good sign, and always ask the price before getting in. Some drivers carry published rate cards with them, and having looked at one of these it's obvious there is local pricing vs. Tourist pricing and the latter is as much as 2 x or 3 x even. And in dollars of course. If you are at a restaurant or bar etc. Have the restaurant call a taxi for you. Plenty of times I have exited a restaurant in Santo Domingo, waiting for my taxi to arrive and there will be three or four cars already in front of the entrance waiting for a tourist. They see me and ask me where I want to go, and I let them know I called for a taxi. They end up looking annoyed, but this is really going to be the best way so you don't get ripped off. With that said, not all taxi drivers you hail down are going to do this. During my initial trips to Santo Domingo I'd get a taxi from the street and would say 60 to 70% were fairly honest, while the remaining were ridiculous rip offs. Now I just call or have the establishment I'm at call for a taxi. One company I can recommend is Aero Taxi. It's a company that locals tend to use you will get "local rates".
BoricuaOnline
06-08-15, 00:18
Camaro's view of Calle El Conde June 2015.
Hotel Conde de Penalba.
Hotel Conde de Penalba is on Calle El Conde next to Parque Colon & La Primada Catredal de Las Americas on the far-east end of Calle El Conde. The hotel has a bar and restaurant on the bottom floor.
My complaints would be my room had no outside window and some kind of way a mosquito got in and was harassing me. In addition my room was next to the front desk so I could hear an unnecessary amount of noise. When I arrived security helped me with my bags but when I gave him 100 pesos tip dude didn't even say "gracias" GTFOOHWTBS!I visited this hotel once, I got a corner second level room with outside view which was excellent.
Hotel Mercure.
Hotel Mercure is on Calle El Conde and the lobby includes a restaurant bar with seating inside and outside. The hotel registration desk is located behind the restaurant. If you enter from the El Conde side you will be entering the restaurant but the hotel entrance is on the side street around the corner.
My room was a mid-sized room and very clean and neat in appearance. There was a closet with an electronic safe. There was an old school 18 inch television the cable worked well along with the air conditioner.
My complaints would include the fact that there were only 2 electric outlets easily visible I later found 2 more under the lamp stand next to the bed. WIFI works in the lobby but not in the room which SUCKS! If I didn't have my hot spot that would be a major inconvenience because sometimes I like to play music from YOUTUBE for my dates. The reception staff was polite however there was no bellman to take your bags.I used this hotel for 3 consecutive visits. I stop visiting when they change their guest policy to a $17 per visitor fee. Do you know if this policy is still in effect?
Cosmo Centro.
Cosmo Central is a salon and beauty supply location on El Conde a few steps from Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. I asked for a haircut and shave for 300 pesos and the barber gave me a full facial without my consent. Everytime I asked about the extended service he would respond saying "tranquilo!" After demanding he stop the treatment the barber handed me a bill for 1500 pesos. I insisted on them calling the police and they relented telling me to pay what I wanted. I paid 400 pesos and walked out.
This is one of many reports about vendors trying to take advantage of tourist and everyone in the area needs to be aware of the upsell.I was charged $160 us dollars with this same scam. The pretty lady there gave me the massage I agreed to have plus after I leave the massage booth the owner gave me a haircut (he cut nothing since I got a haircut acouple of days before) plus a manicure / pedicure / facial treatment. I paid the amount agreed for the massage as I told him I was going to call the Police (the idea was taken from an Oldkool experience posyed here).
Paco's Grande -El Conde.
One of the staples of El Conde is the restaurant Paco's Grande. I had the "plato de DIA" chicken, rice beans and salad and drink was 200 pesos. This has become the hang out location for homosexuals in the area. There were not very many gays present in fact there was some female eye candy that was great for my viewing pleasure.
Despite its reputation during the day you can sit outside and enjoy the view and the energy of El Conde. I thoroughly enjoy the staff which are generally very attentive.I have seen pretty girls sitting alone here in search of tourists but since a few years ago also gay people go there in search of the same girls are looking for.
Calle El Conde Observations.
Calle El Conde is full of energy during the day. Tourist and locals and can be seen walking to and fro and there is also live entertainment from contemporary guitar trios to drum and conga quartets. Locals could be seen playing chess and cards adding a realness to the experience.
This area has an authentic Dominican feel because there were no US staples like Burger King or McDonalds. The restaurant chains were local such as Pollo Rey and Bon Ice Cream Shop. There was a plethora of restaurants, pastry and ice cream shops something for almost any taste.Last time I visited there was a Pizza Hut and a KFC, are they closed now? Years ago there was a Burger King in front of Pacos.
One of the main things I hate about El Conde and Santo Domingo in general is the taxistas. At El Conde they generally will start by quoting a price in dollars that can be as much as twice what the going rate is. Even if you negotiate them down in pesos the prices are still inflated because El Conde is a tourist area and their objective is to make money off the gringo. My advice is to never pay in dollars and never pay the first price offered.
There is a CESTUR tourist police post on El Conde along with a constant police presence at no time did I feel unsafe.
Conclusion.
El Conde is a lively area during the day the area with street characters and is ripe with toto, from tourist to civilian-non pros and a few professionals that will try to make eye contact. Most of the pro action leaves much to be desired but occasionally you can find a gem especially around the Parque Colon area.
I have said that I like the Gazcue area better than El Conde but after this visit I would have to say they are neck and neck. El Conde has the advantage because of its parks and since everything is centrally located it is more convenient because in Gazcue everything is more spread out. I recommend you try both areas of Santo Domingo and decide for yourself .The going rate for taxi is 140 pesos, I always call Aero and Apollo. Aero is 20 to 30 pesos cheaper than Apollo. Remember to ask for a confortable (air conditioned unit).
I have been visiting El Conde since 1998. They have lost clients thanks to the opening of modern malls (Agora, Sambil, Blue Mall among others). Although I prefer Gazcue I always visit Zona colonial every time I go to santo Domingo.
Pizza Hut is still there but KFC is gone thank goodness. I've known more than a few people who got sick eating KFC in the two locations they had at different times. I can't remember if Baskin Robbins is still there or not. It was or is priced way above Dominican owned Bon ice cream chain. Then there are the hotels and cafes like Roma and the Mercure that are obviously not aimed at Dominicans. There have always been lots of gays on the Conde. They used to be a lot more low key than now but I think that is true worldwide. I had to laugh when I read about being careful which park you visit. What's going to happen? Will someone get gay raped, or decide to change their sexuality? LOL! Hilarious.
I visited this hotel once, I got a corner second level room with outside view which was excellent.
I used this hotel for 3 consecutive visits. I stop visiting when they change their guest policy to a $17 per visitor fee. Do you know if this policy is still in effect?
I was charged $160 us dollars with this same scam. The pretty lady there gave me the massage I agreed to have plus after I leave the massage booth the owner gave me a haircut (he cut nothing since I got a haircut acouple of days before) plus a manicure / pedicure / facial treatment. I paid the amount agreed for the massage as I told him I was going to call the Police (the idea was taken from an Oldkool experience posyed here).
I have seen pretty girls sitting alone here in search of tourists but since a few years ago also gay people go there in search of the same girls are looking for..
It is not very Dominican but I have a good time there. Sometimes semi pros who need some cash will troll for tourists. I have had some very nice ladies there. There are some good deals there for services. I had a manicure. Pedicure and a massage for 1000 pesos. There are plenty of places to eat and much fun to be had.
Pizza Hut is still there but KFC is gone thank goodness. I've known more than a few people who got sick eating KFC in the two locations they had at different times. I can't remember if Baskin Robbins is still there or not. It was or is priced way above Dominican owned Bon ice cream chain. Then there are the hotels and cafes like Roma and the Mercure that are obviously not aimed at Dominicans. There have always been lots of gays on the Conde. They used to be a lot more low key than now but I think that is true worldwide. I had to laugh when I read about being careful which park you visit. What's going to happen? Will someone get gay raped, or decide to change their sexuality? LOL! Hilarious.
Camaro1257
06-08-15, 15:15
Pizza Hut is still there but KFC is gone thank goodness. I've known more than a few people who got sick eating KFC in the two locations they had at different times. I can't remember if Baskin Robbins is still there or not. It was or is priced way above Dominican owned Bon ice cream chain. Then there are the hotels and cafes like Roma and the Mercure that are obviously not aimed at Dominicans. There have always been lots of gays on the Conde. They used to be a lot more low key than now but I think that is true worldwide. I had to laugh when I read about being careful which park you visit. What's going to happen? Will someone get gay raped, or decide to change their sexuality? LOL! Hilarious.Although I was looking for American standards I did not see Pizza Hut it probably was hiding in plain sight.
Camaro1257
06-08-15, 15:24
When I mentioned authentic Dominican in reference to Calle El Conde I was comparing it to other tourist areas in the Dominican Republic like Punta Cana and Cabarette. The energy created by seeing Dominican men play chess and cards and the subsequent banter that goes back and forth along with the obvious local population that traverses the area created a distinctly different impression than the other tourist areas I have visited in the Dominican Republic.
Although I was looking for American standards I did not see Pizza Hut it probably was hiding in plain sight.Pizza Hut is about 2 blocks east of Parque Independencia, on the south side of Calle El Conde. Standard Pizza Hut menu with typical Dominican service.
Agree with everything you said. Except the bit about semi-pros. It's not sometimes, they are there all day, every day. Of course, they are invisible compared to the over the top Sosua hookers. It's not better or worse, it's about personal preference, the human interaction and discretion that goes along with dating girls who don't live and work on a hooker stroll is not for everybody.
It is not very Dominican but I have a good time there. Sometimes semi pros who need some cash will troll for tourists. I have had some very nice ladies there. There are some good deals there for services. I had a manicure. Pedicure and a massage for 1000 pesos. There are plenty of places to eat and much fun to be had.
Fearful of gays, terrified of naked men that you are very likely gay. Men who are unconcerned about gays and indifferent to that lifestyle are secure in their masculinity. I hate to say it sir, but you just outed yourself!Never that Sir. Maybe homophobic but not gay. To somehow say that because I don't accept the gay community makes me gay is laughable. I don't even feel comfortable talking about this topic, I guess that makes me gay also? Last I checked I thought this was a heterosexual board not a board to defend / promote alternative lifestyles. Don't go by studies you read before you make assumptions, hangout with me and you will see that I love women and cherish everything about them but I do have an uneasiness around gays. Believe what you want because I really don't care what guys think about me all that I care about is that the girls love giving me pussy.
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I find the semi pros tend to be more friendly. They try hard to please and often are self conscious.
Agree with everything you said. Except the bit about semi-pros. It's not sometimes, they are there all day, every day. Of course, they are invisible compared to the over the top Sosua hookers. It's not better or worse, it's about personal preference, the human interaction and discretion that goes along with dating girls who don't live and work on a hooker stroll is not for everybody.
Stoker Star
06-09-15, 20:53
I tried to use my tourist pass from on line. They said it was an entry fee and not a pass. I had already used it once and just reprinted it. So you can't save the $10. Still the way to go one guy told me he had stood in the tourist card line for over 30 minutes. I stood in the entry line for over 1 hour. Pain in the ass.
Taxi now want $40. Some hard bargaining got it to $35.
Stayed at the Crowne Plaza for the first 2 nights. Points / free. Did the reservation online. The hotel print out was not right. I showed 1 person. I changed that to 2 and ask the guy if I needed to put the name. He said yes. I had a couple of girls from Dominican cupid lined up. That was one way of screening them. I would tell them I needed there full name for the hotel entry.
First girl showed up without an ID. She had someone actually bring it from home. The hotel front desk gave me static but I prevailed at every point. First the girl tried to say only 1 person. But I showed her on the form where I had changed it to 2 and my confirmation had 2. Then she tried the must be identified on the checkin. Again I showed her where I had listed her name.
The girl was as advertised. Here is were I went wrong. We went to the room where I proceeded to kiss and suck her breasts. She displayed a lot of passion. She had said she was hungry previously. I found a stopping point and suggested we go to eat. She said okay. We walked up to honus Villa, one of my favorite places. Good food for the money.
Stoker Star
06-09-15, 21:07
I took the Dominican cupid girl to Honus Villa. She was dark skinned very slender and very attractive. She wanted to call her cousins. This is typical, everybody eats. I declined and she became distance. Back at the the room she informed me that she could not stay as she had school the next day. She did not want to have sex but wanted to come back tomorrow for that. I said no and ask her to leave. She wanted 1000 pesos for the taxi. I gave her 300. I figured 300 was less then I would pay for a dance in the stated and I did more than touch.
I then went out and up the street to Girls house and the other one right beside it. They wanted 4000 pesos for 2 hours or 4400 for total la noche. This was way to much for the talent level, which I though was low. There are a couple of other spots up the street and 1 down the street and up Cervantes. They wanted 1300 for 2 hours same or better talent level (in my opinion). Nothing moved me so I headed back to the hotel.
On the street beside the Crowne Plaza (The Hotel shakey side). I found a couple of girls both of who I thought were better than anything at the houses. We bargained for 3 hours at 2000 pesos (the exchange rate at the casino was 44 to 1 at Franks it was 44.4 to 1). We proceeded to Mystic hotel where I paid $35 for a room, which they keep for the night. Very good. Both excellent and very willing performers.
I tried to use my tourist pass from on line. They said it was an entry fee and not a pass. I had already used it once and just reprinted it. So you can't save the $10. Still the way to go one guy told me he had stood in the tourist card line for over 30 minutes. I stood in the entry line for over 1 hour. Pain in the ass.Tourist card is only good for a single entry into the country. I guess it could have been worse, they could have spent a lot of time explaining the penalties for trying to enter the country illegally and either denied entry, charged a fine or demanded a bribe.
Paying for and printing out the tourist card before travel is a good idea, trying to save $10 isn't.
C Jack Sparrow
06-09-15, 22:34
QUOTE BladeMaster All the places are open (business as usual? I am staying at Ave Pasteur and all the places nearby are open.
Was in Teresa and the one right next door to shakey. ($100 / HR in-house and $115 dos horas take-out, respectively).
The area looked safe with NP patrols and guards.
Have fun.
100.00 USD = 4,483.50 DOP as of today; anyway, that is WAY to much if the girl / s are like 9's and 10's.
Mr Enternational
06-09-15, 22:40
I tried to use my tourist pass from on line. They said it was an entry fee and not a pass. I had already used it once and just reprinted it. So you can't save the $10. Still the way to go one guy told me he had stood in the tourist card line for over 30 minutes. I stood in the entry line for over 1 hour. Pain in the ass.Why didn't you just put $10 into the machine that is next to the line?
Yes sir, I couldn't agree more!
I.
I find the semi pros tend to be more friendly. They try hard to please and often are self conscious.
Went to a place called Oasis somewhere in Gazcue. They had around 20 girls there. The manager told me USD 100 (one hour on-site, two hours takeaway). I talked him down to 3000 pesos (USD 66) for two hours takeaway and chose a girl. I give her an 8. She's 23 yo and really thin. I pay the manager 3000 pesos and we leave. Turns out her own car is parked in front so she drives us to my apt in that. I live about 5 min drive away.
We bang for a good 30 min and it was pretty good. Then the bait & switch began. She wanted to leave, didn't want to fulfill the two hours. Didn't want to bang again. She said that's not part of the deal. Complained about my apt not being clean. Started texting and talking on the phone. Bragged about how her "other clients" pay her like USD 200 or more per hour. She is dreaming. Nobody pays that much in the DR and if they do they need their heads examined. And I told her that.
Basically, her attitude was terrible. When she finally leaves she demands 200 pesos for "gas money". I said hell no, not with your attitude. Then she pushes all the objects off my kitchen table onto the floor. I point to the door and tell her to leave. Then she pulls a handgun out of her purse. At this point I'm just like WTF. I tell her to get the fuck out and she finally does.
Good times.
Went to a place called Oasis somewhere in Gazcue. They had around 20 girls there. The manager told me USD 100 (one hour on-site, two hours takeaway). I talked him down to 3000 pesos (USD 66) for two hours takeaway and chose a girl. I give her an 8. She's 23 yo and really thin. I pay the manager 3000 pesos and we leave. Turns out her own car is parked in front so she drives us to my apt in that. I live about 5 min drive away.
We bang for a good 30 min and it was pretty good. Then the bait & switch began. She wanted to leave, didn't want to fulfill the two hours. Didn't want to bang again. She said that's not part of the deal. Complained about my apt not being clean. Started texting and talking on the phone. Bragged about how her "other clients" pay her like USD 200 or more per hour. She is dreaming. Nobody pays that much in the DR and if they do they need their heads examined. And I told her that.
Basically, her attitude was terrible. When she finally leaves she demands 200 pesos for "gas money". I said hell no, not with your attitude. Then she pushes all the objects off my kitchen table onto the floor. I point to the door and tell her to leave. Then she pulls a handgun out of her purse. At this point I'm just like WTF. I tell her to get the fuck out and she finally does.
Good times.Those casas have always been hustle joints, nothing new. My favorite pastime in SD is to sit on the terrace of Mystic hotel drinking with the fellas as we place bets on how long it will take the girl leaving with a guy to ditch him and return to the Casa. I've seen guys walking around like they lost their puppy after they have been scammed, sad shit.
I will say though that those casas have some of the finest girls you will ever see. I don't think they get 200usd in a regular basis but i believe a high roller will come through every now and then and pay that.
Those casas have always been hustle joints, nothing new. My favorite pastime in SD is to sit on the terrace of Mystic hotel drinking with the fellas as we place bets on how long it will take the girl leaving with a guy to ditch him and return to the Casa. I've seen guys walking around like they lost their puppy after they have been scammed, sad shit.
.On my last trip, I met two guys who stayed at the Mystic hotel. They loved to sit on the front terrace and try to pick up females as they were leaving the casas. They explained that they could get the girls for about 2000 pesos as opposed to 4 K they ask for inside the club. Sometimes, the girls would actually stay all night instead of traveling all the way back home. They also said the hotel was a great spot to pick up casa girls during the daytime. Some of the girls live at the casas and they have nothing to do all day, so they will walk up to the restaurants, park, etc. And they can be had for cheap if you can catch them during the afternoon.
Frankly it wasn't that bad of a deal. She did end up staying the full two hours and she was a solid 8. That's worth USD 66, however I wouldn't do it every day. I just wanted to report how funny it is to see a 90 lb girl hold a handgun. Her arms were like wires. She could barely hold up the gun it was too heavy for her.
This is fucking funny. You should give the details about this Oasis place so people can avoid it.
Went to a place called Oasis somewhere in Gazcue. They had around 20 girls there. The manager told me USD 100 (one hour on-site, two hours takeaway). I talked him down to 3000 pesos (USD 66) for two hours takeaway and chose a girl. I give her an 8. She's 23 yo and really thin. I pay the manager 3000 pesos and we leave. Turns out her own car is parked in front so she drives us to my apt in that. I live about 5 min drive away.
We bang for a good 30 min and it was pretty good. Then the bait & switch began. She wanted to leave, didn't want to fulfill the two hours. Didn't want to bang again. She said that's not part of the deal. Complained about my apt not being clean. Started texting and talking on the phone. Bragged about how her "other clients" pay her like USD 200 or more per hour. She is dreaming. Nobody pays that much in the DR and if they do they need their heads examined. And I told her that.
Basically, her attitude was terrible. When she finally leaves she demands 200 pesos for "gas money". I said hell no, not with your attitude. Then she pushes all the objects off my kitchen table onto the floor. I point to the door and tell her to leave. Then she pulls a handgun out of her purse. At this point I'm just like WTF. I tell her to get the fuck out and she finally does.
Good times.
I probably shouldn't laugh about this but I can't help it. They usually have a razor blade hidden in their bra or pants. I hate to bring this kind of thing up but it's good to know. You don't want to be too close to unknown girls before they have all their clothes off.
Frankly it wasn't that bad of a deal. She did end up staying the full two hours and she was a solid 8. That's worth USD 66, however I wouldn't do it every day. I just wanted to report how funny it is to see a 90 lb girl hold a handgun. Her arms were like wires. She could barely hold up the gun it was too heavy for her.
On my last trip, I met two guys who stayed at the Mystic hotel. They loved to sit on the front terrace and try to pick up females as they were leaving the casas. They explained that they could get the girls for about 2000 pesos as opposed to 4 K they ask for inside the club. Sometimes, the girls would actually stay all night instead of traveling all the way back home. They also said the hotel was a great spot to pick up casa girls during the daytime. Some of the girls live at the casas and they have nothing to do all day, so they will walk up to the restaurants, park, etc. And they can be had for cheap if you can catch them during the afternoon.Shhh! I can neither confirm or deny the presence of or absence of discount casa girls hanging at Mystic hotel LOL. I will say that there advantages of staying at Mystic. These photos are of some girls hanging with us at the terrace of Mystic hotel.
BoricuaOnline
06-11-15, 03:49
This is fucking funny. You should give the details about this Oasis place so people can avoid it.Oasis? Where is that one?
Those casas have always been hustle joints, nothing new. My favorite pastime in SD is to sit on the terrace of Mystic hotel drinking with the fellas as we place bets on how long it will take the girl leaving with a guy to ditch him and return to the Casa. I've seen guys walking around like they lost their puppy after they have been scammed, sad shit.
I will say though that those casas have some of the finest girls you will ever see. I don't think they get 200usd in a regular basis but i believe a high roller will come through every now and then and pay that.Where is the casa in relation to the Mystic. I have stayed at the Mystic half a dozen times or so but, the only place I know of within eye site is the Strip Club next door. For some reason the name escapes me. Maybe Girls House is the name. Anyway is that the place your speaking of. Just curious.
The address for Oasis is below. Avoid this place. Or better yet: if you feel like being a dick, go in there sometime and let him present you all 20 girls. Manhandle all the girls. Then tell the manager you can't do it because someone online told you that the girls there pack heat.
Oasis Bar & Lounge.
Calle Doctor Baez No. 1.
Gazcue.
(Dentro del Hostal La Mansion Primaveral).
Santo Domingo.
Telephone: 809-475-8623.
Cellular: 829-210-0318.
I just got home. Details of tonight: Combed El Conde for semi-pros from around 8-9 pm. Found a 21 yo student, really cute face but a little too heavy. Talked to her for a while and then I said lets go to my place. She gets in the cab with me and says how much can you give me tonight? I said 1000 pesos. She said 2000. I said no. She said 1500. Then I booted her from the car and told the taxista to drop me off at GBP instead haha. Got to GBP and went CBJ / CFS for 1000 pesos. 23 yo, really pretty face, body thin and decent but a little ragged out from having one kid. Decent service. Full eye contact BJ. Pussy a little loose, so I told her to finish me off with BJ and she actually pulled it off. I had never nutted before from a covered BJ in my life. She also demanded a tip afterwards. I said no like I always do. She tried to block the door so I couldn't leave. No handgun this time though.
Santo Domingo is pretty terrible for P4P generally speaking. Dominican hookers are some of the worst hookers I've experienced, and I've been all over the world. Their personality is insufferable. That said, the scene here is so pathetic its comical. You can have fun with it if you keep a good sense of humor.
BoricuaOnline
06-11-15, 05:50
Where is the casa in relation to the Mystic. I have stayed at the Mystic half a dozen times or so but, the only place I know of within eye site is the Strip Club next door. For some reason the name escapes me. Maybe Girls House is the name. Anyway is that the place your speaking of. Just curious.About 15 years ago there were two casas on Pasteur: Elegant Center and the other one where Girls House is currently located. Elegant Center had massage tables in every room and was cheaper than old Girls House. Girls house was for take out only, no rooms in site. Once you choose a chica you had two choices: go to your hotel room, at that time all large hotels were guest friendly or go to the cabanas west of the city. There was a large area with cabanas at the western end of the malecon. Taxis loved to take people there for obvious reasons but it was nice because the 12 minute ride west was a good moment to know your girl better, kiss her, insert a finger inside her, the usual.
Mistyk was constructed a few years later when large hotel became non guest friendly. Mystik basically substituted the cabanas and the large hotels as short term alternative for casa clients. I remember I did something moronic the first time I chose a girl By the time Mistyk hotel opened. I paid for the chica 500 pesos less than the usual cost, I waited for the girl, we went inside the taxi in front of the casa, cab driver said there is a new nice place nearby to take the chica and I said ok, so he moved a few meters from Girls house to Mistyk and asked for $5 US. The cab driver told me that I was a gentleman and it was not good manners to walk with the lady even if it was short distance, that it was classy to arrive in a taxi. I was drunk and horny so I paid him and went upstairs, the cost was $15 for 2 hours. It was nice but I still prefer the large and built for sex cabana rooms.
Having a gun pulled is serious business. The casa girls tend to be very hardcore. You will rarely get pretend GFE. When you pop that nut they are putting their shoes on. I like having the option to cuddle if I want to. The casa managers are all straight up scam artist. They will do anything to get your money. Let me not be totally negative. I have seen some very sexy girls in casas but with all the pussy walking around why pay for the overhead you do not need. You really do not need help to find pussy in the DR. Many casa charge what you would pay in the states. $100 plus. To each his on. We all have out own styles and preferences.
When you plan your trip be honest with yourself. Do you want quality or quantity. It is very hard to get both. I tend to go a little nuts and try to fuck every thing in site. In truth when you are 60 your sport fucking days are numbered. In the future Iam restricting myself to no more then 2 girls a day. I have done 4 on occasions in 1 day. It was fun but you really have to work hard to get a nut.
Frankly it wasn't that bad of a deal. She did end up staying the full two hours and she was a solid 8. That's worth USD 66, however I wouldn't do it every day. I just wanted to report how funny it is to see a 90 lb girl hold a handgun. Her arms were like wires. She could barely hold up the gun it was too heavy for her.
OldKool,
There is plenty of pussy walking around but they aren't as hot as casa girls. I find the average Dominican girl walking on the streets (semi-pro or non-pro) to be pretty mediocre. If you know where the hot ones are walking around let me know.
Having a gun pulled is serious business. The casa girls tend to be very hardcore. You will rarely get pretend GFE. When you pop that nut they are putting their shoes on. I like having the option to cuddle if I want to. The casa managers are all straight up scam artist. They will do anything to get your money. Let me not be totally negative. I have seen some very sexy girls in casas but with all the pussy walking around why pay for the overhead you do not need. You really do not need help to find pussy in the DR. Many casa charge what you would pay in the states. $100 plus. To each his on. We all have out own styles and preferences.
When you plan your trip be honest with yourself. Do you want quality or quantity. It is very hard to get both. I tend to go a little nuts and try to fuck every thing in site. In truth when you are 60 your sport fucking days are numbered. In the future Iam restricting myself to no more then 2 girls a day. I have done 4 on occasions in 1 day. It was fun but you really have to work hard to get a nut.
You have 3 casas on Pasteur; Girls House, Skyhigh, and Valencia. The one on Independencia is 305. Then you have a couple on the east side of the malecon where you can actually look up and see the girls in their living quarters. I'm with Jack on this, I don't think we need to put this place on blast. He got a girl that was an 8 out of a casa for 66 usd and had a great 2 hours, can't expect anything more than that out of a casa girl in reality. The deal went sour when the girl wanted to leave and Jack probably wouldn't let her so she felt threatened and as a last resort pulled the gun. Even Jack said she was scared when she pulled the gun. The main point is that Jack is okay.
Old Kool your last post showed me that you have plenty of sense and know exactly what you are doing in this game even though sometimes you like to down play it.
Stoker Star
06-11-15, 13:55
First comments on the tourist card. It saves you time rather than buying in in the airport. Even the machine had a long line. It did say valid for 1 year but this one was issued about 6 months ago and I had entered already. The girl walked me to the kiosk and I paid the $10 and then she carried me to the front of the line. Actually ended up being the same place.
The houses up from shakey. I agree see my previous post. Way to much for the quality.
Back to the performing chicas. I had set up appointments with 3 chicas per day from Dominican cupid. Meeting at Pacos or El Conde restaurant. My hit ratio is 1 of 3. 1 just does not show up and 1 I usually miss. Remember these girls are all on Dominican time so 10 means 11 to them. First girl shows big breasts and a big butt and attractive. She does not want anything to eat or drink. After about 30 minutes she says " vamos tu hotel". So off we go. To the crowne plaza. I had not registered her but we just walked in without question. I think the daytime this is easy. Night you would have to check in. She was very good. Had some trouble getting rid of her. She wanted to stay.
Stoker Star
06-11-15, 14:09
Decided to spend the day on conde. The massage girls all agreed to suckee / fuckee. Rate was 1000 pesos to 1500. Did not try but some were certainly worthy. At Pacos meet this black girl from New York. She was worth it but I had plans so we are to meet tomorrow. Walked into one of the cheap clothing stores and connected with a sales girl. I intend to go with her tomorrow. Meet an older girl from Spain who was teaching here at El Conde. She was doable but I ha something already lined up.
Taxis if you must are better if you get them a few blocks away form Pacos. I had moved to the Riazor and I just catch one of the junk cars that travel up Independecia. Paid 20/25 pesos. The Riazor wanted $65 and agreed to $60. Ok but not fab.
The girl lined up from Dominican Cupid did not show. Wow I bet we had exchanged 20 emails. So I drifted over to the Jararuga Casino. I have reservations at the Marriott staring Friday. They say it is opening Friday. I think I will need a back up plan.
Picked a girl from the casino floor. OK did not dress like a punta. She was very GFE and performed well. She ask for 4000 pesos. So we danced me 2000 and we settled on 3000. Not much talent in the casino but still something for everyone.
Jack555, while casa girls are attractive there are a lot more hot semi-pro or non-pro chicas in Santo Domingo. It might seem a little harder to find if you are just in one area though, locals frequent other spots more than just Gazcue. I don't know if you speak Spanish, if you do then definitely use that to your advantage and go after some semi-Pro or non-pro chicas. You could check out a bar / club at night and many will be there with a group. But speaking Spanish or some basic level of Spanish is important for this. If you are just looking for a quick fuck, the casas are fine but quality is always going to be a hit or miss.
You can also try DominicanCupid. Many hot chicas there, and I have had good luck with non-pros. Out of 5 chicas I have met from there, 4 I ended up getting with first night. The one I didn't, she claimed to be very religious and waiting for marriage. Not sure how true that was, but I stayed patient and went out a couple more times. Nothing past kissing. After the third date and her resisting my attempts and constantly citing that we wait until we are married. Combined with her asking for money. I bailed. Would have loved to bang her, but you can't win them all. Too much talent all around. And if you have some game, you won't be paying for some of these chicas. Other than taking them out to dinner and stuff, but they deliver on the GFE.
OldKool,
There is plenty of pussy walking around but they aren't as hot as casa girls. I find the average Dominican girl walking on the streets (semi-pro or non-pro) to be pretty mediocre. If you know where the hot ones are walking around let me know.
Went to a place called Oasis somewhere in Gazcue. They had around 20 girls there. The manager told me USD 100 (one hour on-site, two hours takeaway). I talked him down to 3000 pesos (USD 66) for two hours takeaway and chose a girl. I give her an 8. She's 23 yo and really thin. I pay the manager 3000 pesos and we leave. Turns out her own car is parked in front so she drives us to my apt in that. I live about 5 min drive away.
We bang for a good 30 min and it was pretty good. Then the bait & switch began. She wanted to leave, didn't want to fulfill the two hours. Didn't want to bang again. She said that's not part of the deal. Complained about my apt not being clean. Started texting and talking on the phone. Bragged about how her "other clients" pay her like USD 200 or more per hour. She is dreaming. Nobody pays that much in the DR and if they do they need their heads examined. And I told her that.
Basically, her attitude was terrible. When she finally leaves she demands 200 pesos for "gas money". I said hell no, not with your attitude. Then she pushes all the objects off my kitchen table onto the floor. I point to the door and tell her to leave. Then she pulls a handgun out of her purse. At this point I'm just like WTF. I tell her to get the fuck out and she finally does.
Good times.We need a data base for those babes off the rails. Post her pic, at least.
Mr Gogo,
You have it reversed. She didn't pull the gun because she wanted to leave and I tried to stop her. She pulled the gun because I wanted her to leave and she would not leave. She was on her way out the door after the agreed two hours and she demanded a tip. I said no get out. Then she slid all of the objects on my kitchen table onto the floor to irritate me. Then she pulled the gun so that I wouldn't retaliate against her. The gun was pulled because I did not want to tip, plain and simple. I was never aggressive with her at any time, nor was I trying to stop her from leaving. The only thing I did was called her out on all her bullshit, and this irritated her immensely.
Puntz79,
Yes I speak excellent Spanish, but not fluent. I don't like bars and clubs because I don't drink. I've approached some girls on the street and used Dominican Cupid too. I have a 19 yo from Cupid that bangs me for free (have to pay her taxi). But again, she is not as hot as casa girls.
The main difference is that the casas have girls with no kids. I don't like the bodies of girls with kids. Their abdomen is all stretched out and disgusting. All the non-pro and semi-pro action in SD are mothers.
Also, if I'm paying a girl, I don't want anything to do with her outside of sex. With semi-pro you have to text them and pretend you like them, etc. I find this to be a waste of time. I'm not looking for a deep connection with someone I'm paying. That's why you pay: to avoid all that crap.
I'm not saying having a girlfriend or a deeper connection is bad. I'm just saying do it with someone who isn't looking for money. And isn't Dominican LOL. As for the girls who clearly want your money: give it to them but don't give them anything else.
Casa girls, semi pros, pros, flying zebras, unicorns, it's a big blur after a while. Anyway, real talk, don't be surprised to find the same girl on the Mystik terrace minutes before or after she is flagging down cars on an Independencia street corner. My advice is to keep it simple and focus on the experience of how well she makes you nut, how much you have to pay, and I guess also whether or not she uses hollow point bullets. LFMAO!
Shhh! I can neither confirm or deny the presence of or absence of discount casa girls hanging at Mystic hotel LOL. I will say that there advantages of staying at Mystic. These photos are of some girls hanging with us at the terrace of Mystic hotel.
You are describing things that very few others here describe (CBJ and aggressive tip requests at GBP, handgun brandishing, we will see what else you get into before this over). Now, for you at least, Santo Domingo is one of the worst P4P destinations in the world. There is a unique factor at play here that I am not sure about but I really don't think it is Santo Domingo.
The address for Oasis is below. Avoid this place. Or better yet: if you feel like being a dick, go in there sometime and let him present you all 20 girls. Manhandle all the girls. Then tell the manager you can't do it because someone online told you that the girls there pack heat.
Oasis Bar & Lounge.
Calle Doctor Baez No. 1.
Gazcue.
(Dentro del Hostal La Mansion Primaveral).
Santo Domingo.
Telephone: 809-475-8623.
Cellular: 829-210-0318.
I just got home. Details of tonight: Combed El Conde for semi-pros from around 8-9 pm. Found a 21 yo student, really cute face but a little too heavy. Talked to her for a while and then I said lets go to my place. She gets in the cab with me and says how much can you give me tonight? I said 1000 pesos. She said 2000. I said no. She said 1500..
Actually, Girls House about 15 to 20 years ago was called "Swan" (Cisne in Spanish), when it and Elegant Center had to pretend to be beauty salons because that section of Pasteur was still mostly residential. Cisne had rooms with beds upstairs. It seems hard to believe now but it is true. This was also during the glory years of Mona Lisa, but search the archives for those filthy details. Cisne and Mona Lisa were popular with Major League ballers and Dominican politicians. The people running GBP were running Cisne at the time. Ask them, there is no shame in their game.
About 15 years ago there were two casas on Pasteur: Elegant Center and the other one where Girls House is currently located. Elegant Center had massage tables in every room and was cheaper than old Girls House. Girls house was for take out only, no rooms in site. Once you choose a chica you had two choices: go to your hotel room, at that time all large hotels were guest friendly or go to the cabanas west of the city. There was a large area with cabanas at the western end of the malecon. Taxis loved to take people there for obvious reasons but it was nice because the 12 minute ride west was a good moment to know your girl better, kiss her, insert a finger inside her, the usual.
Mistyk was constructed a few years later when large hotel became non guest friendly. Mystik basically substituted the cabanas and the large hotels as short term alternative for casa clients. I remember I did something moronic the first time I chose a girl By the time Mistyk hotel opened. I paid for the chica 500 pesos less than the usual cost, I waited for the girl, we went inside the taxi in front of the casa, cab driver said there is a new nice place nearby to take the chica and I said ok, so he moved a few meters from Girls house to Mistyk and asked for $5 US. The cab driver told me that I was a gentleman and it was not good manners to walk with the lady even if it was short distance, that it was classy to arrive in a taxi. I was drunk and horny so I paid him and went upstairs, the cost was $15 for 2 hours. It was nice but I still prefer the large and built for sex cabana rooms.
Casa girls, semi pros, pros, flying zebras, unicorns, it's a big blur after a while. Anyway, real talk, don't be surprised to find the same girl on the Mystik terrace minutes before or after she is flagging down cars on an Independencia street corner. My advice is to keep it simple and focus on the experience of how well she makes you nut, how much you have to pay, and I guess also whether or not she uses hollow point bullets. LFMAO!That's actually what I love about the Mystik stoop, the variety of characters. You have the touts trying to hustle you, the druggies that think you don't know they are druggies, the street walkers who are always in a rush to go nowhere and the Casa girls who strut around like royalty. Also two doors up from Mystik toward Independencia is a store where you can get two bottles of Brugal, coke and two cups of ice for 280 p. But thanks for the advice and surely I will be looking for a Casa girl that says "Make my day" so I can turn her down.
Stoker Star
06-12-15, 01:12
Went to Conde Hotel to wait on a Dominican Cupid chica and connected to their wifi. Weak signal but functional. Spent a couple of nonproductive hours there and drifted to Pacos. There temps are very high and so is the humidity. Decided to walk back to Riazor. Right at the corner past Pacos I saw this top notch girl coming out of the Orange store. Did not look like a punta at all. I said hola and she smiled. The rest is history. Excellent girl I will repeat with a total la noche tomorrow. From Santiago, light skinned and was willing to do 3 holes. She ask for cien then went to 80 and actually agreed to 2000 pescos.
There are a lot gays on Conde. They have almost taken over Pacos. I think one might have better luck if he moved up conde to say Pizza Roma. Less stigma for the girls and no gays.
Frank's was giving 44.65 today.
You learn quickly. I can tell you are taking the good advice from here and ignoring the rest.
Went to Conde Hotel to wait on a Dominican Cupid chica and connected to their wifi. Weak signal but functional. Spent a couple of nonproductive hours there and drifted to Pacos. There temps are very high and so is the humidity. Decided to walk back to Riazor. Right at the corner past Pacos I saw this top notch girl coming out of the Orange store. Did not look like a punta at all. I said hola and she smiled. The rest is history. Excellent girl I will repeat with a total la noche tomorrow. From Santiago, light skinned and was willing to do 3 holes. She ask for cien then went to 80 and actually agreed to 2000 pescos.
There are a lot gays on Conde. They have almost taken over Pacos. I think one might have better luck if he moved up conde to say Pizza Roma. Less stigma for the girls and no gays.
Frank's was giving 44.65 today.
Tempoecorto
06-12-15, 02:02
You are describing things that very few others here describe (CBJ and aggressive tip requests at GBP, handgun brandishing, we will see what else you get into before this over). Now, for you at least, Santo Domingo is one of the worst P4P destinations in the world. There is a unique factor at play here that I am not sure about but I really don't think it is Santo Domingo.I thought the next sentence from this poster was interesting: " Then I booted her from the car and told the taxista to drop me off at GBP instead haha. " Language is an interesting pointer to a man's way of looking at a woman and why a woman might feel threatened.
Also anyone who knows anything of the DR will know that a large percentage of women have see-section (good business for the Healthcare industry) so vagina stretching is a stretch, pun intended, unless you are banging 60 year old, when they used to have natural birthing. So going to a casa in a place like DR where women are ubiquitous and available to a large extent, well.
Went to El Conde and found a few different non-pro uni girls with no babies. Exchanged numbers with three girls. Then found a massage girl with no kids for 1500 pesos, BBBJ / CFS / massage. This city is growing on me.
I didn't say vaginal stretching. I said fat loose abdomen (mommy tummy). I don't like it. I also don't like see-section scars. Call me superficial, but I like girls without kids. Just my taste. We are all different. You can't begrudge a guy for his nut.
Reason I booted that other one from car is because she had a kid, was a bit fat, and wanted 1500 pesos. Price should be commensurate with looks. I paid the childless one 1500 today without reservation.
Chill out with all the criticisms. I'm new in the city and learning a new scene. Very different P4P scene from where I was last. But I'm starting to enjoy the differences.
BTW yesterday while getting blown at GBP a mouse ran across the floor. Good times.
You are right we all have our quirks. Yours are out there but so what. Imo 1500 is on the low side. If you are looking for top shelf the price will be higher. At 17 most chica have babies. Most I have delt with bodies show little wear.
Went to El Conde and found a few different non-pro uni girls with no babies. Exchanged numbers with three girls. Then found a massage girl with no kids for 1500 pesos, BBBJ / CFS / massage. This city is growing on me.
I didn't say vaginal stretching. I said fat loose abdomen (mommy tummy). I don't like it. I also don't like see-section scars. Call me superficial, but I like girls without kids. Just my taste. We are all different. You can't begrudge a guy for his nut.
Reason I booted that other one from car is because she had a kid, was a bit fat, and wanted 1500 pesos. Price should be commensurate with looks. I paid the childless one 1500 today without reservation.
Chill out with all the criticisms. I'm new in the city and learning a new scene. Very different P4P scene from where I was last. But I'm starting to enjoy the differences.
BTW yesterday while getting blown at GBP a mouse ran across the floor. Good times.
Mr Enternational
06-12-15, 16:07
At 17 most chica have babies. Most I have delt with bodies show little wear.Where do you get this stuff from? I know women in the DR in their 20's and 30's who don't have kids.
Not most chicas. I know chicas who had a baby at 15 or 16. A couple at 17. But I know a lot that are in their mid to late 20's and no babies. Last trip in DR I got with a very attractive 35 year old (older than me) woman from Santiago, no kids. Never married (as if that mattered), and was telling me how she thinks she'll be single for a very long time. An hour later, job done. She spent the night. Wanted to hang out the next day, but I had to "leave a day early unexpectedly". We still keep in touch though and I'm sure I'll still bang her when I go back to DR. Hopefully she does not get knocked up by then. Very slender figure. Non-pro, employed, worked in the hospitality industry and I got in touch through DC. While there are a lot of chicas that do have kids, most do not by 17. By 23 or 24, probably more common.
You are right we all have our quirks. Yours are out there but so what. Imo 1500 is on the low side. If you are looking for top shelf the price will be higher. At 17 most chica have babies. Most I have delt with bodies show little wear.
Where do you get this stuff from? I know women in the DR in their 20's and 30's who don't have kids.Just from my time using Cupid, I noticed that the chicas who had kids, on average had the first one about age 15. Of the 18 to 25 year old on Cupid, I guess close to half had 1 or more kids.
Just an untested hypothesis of mine, if a chica can make it to about 20, without getting pregnant, she probably won't have kids unless she gets in a secure relationship. At 14 or 15, they are still gullible enough to believe lines like "I'll pull out" and "I can't live without you."
There are exception of course. I have dealt with about 80 women in the DR. I can only remember 2 who had no children most had 2, then again I pay for pussy unlike the great Mr e has girls donating to his cause. SURE Do a random poll on dcupid.
See how many do not have kids. VERY few.
If I look at how many women I have been with in Sosua, I lose count. In Sosua if I am just not using any resources like DC, a lot of the women have kids. So that part is true.
But if I look at the women I have been with in Santiago and Santo Domingo, if that number is 20. I am going to have to say that maybe only 2 had kids. I have a very good memory. Sosua is different, different type of women, different situation, etc. The women I have gone out with in the other cities are generally between 22 and 35. And only 2 I can think of that had kids. One each. Not more. But that's my experience, and I generally hunt for women without children on DC too.
There are exception of course. I have dealt with about 80 women in the DR. I can only remember 2 who had no children most had 2, then again I pay for pussy unlike the great Mr e has girls donating to his cause. SURE Do a random poll on dcupid.
See how many do not have kids. VERY few.
RoamAround1
06-12-15, 23:51
OK. To set the scene, long time lurker here first time poster, lots of experience living and playing in Asia so this ain't my first rodeo but it is first time in Dr and in Latin America in general. I'm in my hotel off conde and I'm about three presidents deep so excuse the lack of a filter but here goes:
Day 1.
Get picked up at the airport by a DC chica I'd been writing for a couple months, great girl, says I'm invited to come to a BBQ at the parents that night please come, well she's come all the way out there to pick me up feel like its the least I can do. She even sends a cab for me without telling me, I'm out on the balcony chatting with my american neighbor when this white car rolls up honking his horn and going ape sht we're both like, what's wrong with this dude when she sends me a message saying there's a white taxi waiting to take you to my parents why aren't you getting in. Oh my bad, communication problem sign of things to come. So go to dinner with family, all's good, about 11 she's like guess you should go back to your place now and calls another cab to take me back well, not exactly how I saw this night ending but OK. Get back to el conde and decide I need at least a little nookie on the first night so walk to foxys. Walk in and find I'm the on! Why one there, guy claps and like 15 girls are standing there staring at me. Not my MO, so I say its cool I'm just here for a drink. Sit watching the NBA a little and catch the eye of a cutie sitting down the bar she approached and we go for a drink in the corner nice little lap dance and all follows. She says $100 for two hours at your place or one here. Not feeling that price I say how about 3000 pesos she says ask manager which I do he says no, no discussion. I say OK, pay tab and leave, there's always dollhouse literally right across the street. So walk over there and enjoy a much more relaxed vibe start chatting with the DJ and kinda ignoring the girls, he seems like a cool dude and we like the same kind of music. But one of the girls approaches and asks if I want a girl or a boy. Whoa OK maybe DJ is getting the wrong idea. Say I like girls and so she proceeds to hit most of the right buttons and its about 3 am by now so I'm like what the hell. How much and same spiel as foxys, no negotiation. Say OK but we go to my place and off we go after beers etc 5000 pesos lighter. Ouch. Little head wins again. Things go well, nothing super special, she's out the door as soon a time is up.
RoamAround1
06-13-15, 00:49
Four and a half presidents deep.
Day 2.
Day does not start great, no WiFi so that means no WhatsApp communication with DC chica, finally get in touch with airport DC chica and we go see the sites of the colonial zone, parks, churches etc. We go to jumbo for essentials, ie beer chips and barcelo, she's like is this all nyour buying and I'm like yep. I'm on vacation and this is how I vacate. We need back to my casa and have a few beers, she's spending lots of time on her phone and not being very receptive to any physical interaction, I was getting this serious friend zone vibe. Not good. We go for a walk on the malecone and nothing improves she speaks no English and my Spanish is about the equivalent of a five year olds so conversation is now flowing and it all just seems off so I decide to call it good and head back to the room to try and salvage the night.
Meet up with DC girl no. 2 she finally comes by after getting off work at 10 pm so its late, much of the conde is shutting down so we just go back to my place and have a few beers, things are escalating nicely when her phone goes off, she ignores, it goes off again, she ignores, it goes off a third time and she goes, my dad. Um OK. She picks up and just for shts and giggles or I dunno why puts it on speaker so I get to enjoy hearing dear old dad and hija have this full on screaming match in the middle of my room. Lets just say this is not the type of screaming I was hopeing the neighbors would be complaining about. She says something to the effect of if I want to live to see tomorrow I got to go so I say yeah good idea, until next time. Adios.
Well now it's about 2 am and I'm not batting well with the DC chica but think what the hell lets see if the rumors of el conde street walkers are true so head down. Street is dead, absolutely no one around. Walk down to pacos and the train starts to come off the rails. Just going to interject here, I'm going to tell the freaking whole stupid damn truth here and I don't want to hear any crap about it, I'm doing this so others will know and please no smug well that would never happen to me's because I thought that about myself when reading others reports but yet here I am talking about how I got fcuked. So here goes. A dude named Anthony approches at pacos asking if I need anything, I say no just looking he says there's a better place down by the malecon that stays open all night, I say I'm good I'll walk there myself, he insists and walks with me talking all the way. We get there and it is actually a pretty cool place called el palacio de yaroa, owned by Rafael who speaks great English and is a cool guy to chat with, along the way he vouches for hoiw our man Anthony gets good reviews etc, so, stupidly I begin to let my guard down. Pay the bill and prepare to head home, Anthony says you sure you don't want a chica. Well hell yeah of course I do after all we cervesas. He says he can find good chicas even at 4 am for $50. I say OK let's see and we go to some house where he rings a bell and wakes some poor chicas up, the selection is slim but big head has long since ceeded control so we negotiate for 40 for the chica and 20 for him, but I'm not carrying that much so he says lets go back and I'll take her the dinero. And I know what your all thinking, even as I type it it sounds too f-ing stupid to believe but I actually agree to this as it seemed reasonable at the time considering all the assurances I'd had. Well obviously he took steve millers advice and took the money and ran. My stupidass goes all the way back to the girls house rings the same damn bell and I'm like where's Anthony she goes ohhh noo and looks at me like you poor stupid creature. But I'm still in the mood to hit that fine little Dominican booty so I ask you still want that $40 and she's like sure so the night wasn't a total loss, but it did cost more than it should've.
Tempoecorto
06-13-15, 03:01
I said fat loose abdomen (mommy tummy). I don't like it. I also don't like see-section scars. Call me superficial, but I like girls without kids. Just my taste. Yes, you are absolutely entitled to your quirks but your not riding a woman roughshod will pave the way, for other johns here, to have a good experience as well, hence the calling out. Nothing personal.
There are plenty of girls in DR with no kids, but that type is far less likely to pursue foreign men and seek P4P encounters. For obvious reasons: they don't need to. A foreign man looking for P4P, in any country, comes into contact with a certain subsection of society. I've met a few girls here with real jobs and no kids and I enjoy their company but they aren't the easiest to lay.
Today I banged a really hot 20 yo. I give her an 8. Chatted her up by sitting down next to her on a park bench. I'd call her a semi-pro. Seeks men with money but can't come to admit to herself that she's a ho. The sex was wild. Took her out to lunch and paid her cabs. Didn't give her any cash. I'm sure she's irritated about that part, because she seems like a total chapiadora. We'll see if she comes back for more.
For those who don't know, chapiadora is Dominican slang for semi-pro basically. You all know this type of Dominicana I'm sure. Their key traits are:
Hot.
Dresses very sexy.
Cellphone addict (always texting).
Hints you should take her to get her nails done.
Claims to be student.
Hints you should help pay for her "books" for university.
Insists she is not a prostitute.
These type of babes are fun but you have to be in control at all times. They are manipulative. You give an inch, they take a mile. So be very careful with what you give them. Their demands will only escalate. You should only date them for a short period of time. Which is fine since they are easily interchangeable.
Great reporting bro. One thing I've learned in the last week is that giving advice and criticism is not well appreciated anymore nowadays, so I won't give any. I will though offer support and encourage you to keep at it and as Jack said keep a sense of humor. Guys nowadays choose to find their own adventures and it leads to great reports.
Buenas suerte.
You do not know what "chapiadora" means.
There are plenty of girls in DR with no kids, but that type is far less likely to pursue foreign men and seek P4P encounters. For obvious reasons: they don't need to. A foreign man looking for P4P, in any country, comes into contact with a certain subsection of society. I've met a few girls here with real jobs and no kids and I enjoy their company but they aren't the easiest to lay.
Today I banged a really hot 20 yo. I give her an 8. Chatted her up by sitting down next to her on a park bench. I'd call her a semi-pro. Seeks men with money but can't come to admit to herself that she's a ho. The sex was wild. Took her out to lunch and paid her cabs. Didn't give her any cash. I'm sure she's irritated about that part, because she seems like a total chapiadora. We'll see if she comes back for more.
For those who don't know, chapiadora is Dominican slang for semi-pro basically. You all know this type of Dominicana I'm sure. Their key traits are:.
I'm slow I guess. I had to read the report twice to figure out that romaround handed the guy money and said see you later. The good news it was only $40 so I consider that a very inexpensive lesson that will hopefully save him much more money in the future. I guess the part I don't understand is how it's not the first rodeo but cash gets handed to some guy who appears on the sketchy end of the Conde. No more advice needed at this point I think. I am confident the trip will improve from here.
Great reporting bro. One thing I've learned in the last week is that giving advice and criticism is not well appreciated anymore nowadays, so I won't give any. I will though offer support and encourage you to keep at it and as Jack said keep a sense of humor. Guys nowadays choose to find their own adventures and it leads to great reports.
Buenas suerte.
RoamAround1
06-13-15, 18:09
Hi MrGogo,
Thanks, and sorry, I didn't mean to come across as an ass or some sort of know it all, I realize there's always more to learn. And I have read and respect the vast amount of information and advice you have given to this board over the years. I just didn't think I could take any I told ya so's as I have already beat myself up enough over it and just want to move on. But I greatly appreciate the compliment and the encouragement and we'll see what happens next.
Does anyone know how early GBP opens? Hehehe.
P.S. Please excuse the errors, typing on a tablet sucks!
BoricuaOnline
06-13-15, 19:23
Here I am at Hilton Malecon, anybody know of chicas available in floor 15?
Mr Enternational
06-13-15, 21:53
Get picked up at the airport by a DC chica I'd been writing for a couple months, great girl, says I'm invited to come to a BBQ at the parents that night please come, well she's come all the way out there to pick me up feel like its the least I can do.Great reports RoamAround. It does not seem like this is your first time to DR even though you said it is. You seem to know the layout of the place well. You must have done a lot of research before your trip.
Since you now have experience with women that you didn't pick up as hookers, did you find either of them or their family to fit this mold? Or how did you find them to be?
You have long been known as a cheap MF who takes from poor women. Hell these girls are raising kids and making less then $ 200 a month. They need help. Why you do not understand this has always blown me away. I have given up on non pros because I am tired of the requests. It is something new every week..
Four and a half presidents deep.
I say OK let's see and we go to some house where he rings a bell and wakes some poor chicas up, the selection is slim but big head has long since ceeded control so we negotiate for 40 for the chica and 20 for him, but I'm not carrying that much so he says lets go back and I'll take her the dinero. And I know what your all thinking, even as I type it it sounds too f-ing stupid to believe but I actually agree to this as it seemed reasonable at the time considering all the assurances I'd had. Well obviously he took steve millers advice and took the money and ran. My stupidass goes all the way back to the girls house rings the same damn bell and I'm like where's Anthony she goes ohhh noo and looks at me like you poor stupid creature. But I'm still in the mood to hit that fine little Dominican booty so I ask you still want that $40 and she's like sure so the night wasn't a total loss, but it did cost more than it should've.I did not understand this part well. Are you saying that you left the girl without fucking and went to get money and gave it directly to the guy whom you then separated from? Or are you saying that you fucked the girl first and after the guy went with you to get money saying he would bring it back to the girl and you decided to go back for seconds only to find out the guy never returned to give the girl the money? Also, do you remember the location?
Tempoecorto
06-14-15, 01:56
Day 2.Excellent report. Great writing, added to it a sense of humor and disarming admission of having screwed up. I have never seen you ask questions on this forum but you are a nice example of how this forum could be useful to those to take the time to read.
Write more about your next adventure and thanks.
BoricuaOnline
06-15-15, 01:32
I paid $84.00 for one day at Hilton Malecon. The deal included parking, wifi and taxes. I booked for 2 as I know the hotel is not guest friendly. Once in the room I chat with different chicas. There is a pretty one I met bofore and I wanted to repeat. "My amor but I am in Russia" she told me. Russia? That place is a little west of Santo Domingo. It is not far, Sarah Palin can see Russia from his yard. "But papi, I have a friend I can reccomend, here are a few pictures", she added. Whoaaa! She looks ten times better than mi amiga who is in Russia. She is 18 years, no kids, blonde, tall, light skin, baby face. So I interacted with this pretty lady to see her later.
I had a date set with a Facebook chica. We met at Chilis, she had a few margaritas. While I talked with her she asked where I was staying and I told her the Hilton. "Seriously. ? I worked there, here is a pic with my best friend, she actually works at Jaragua Merengue Bar" . Merengue bar? Oh, I always go there, I flirt with a girl I like a lot but never set anything because she always see me with a different girl when I got there. Last two times on Nevember I went alone so had time enough to make her happy.
My date show me the picture of her and her best friend and guess what? Her best friend is the girl I like. Oh oh.
We finished our dinner date and parted away. So again, guess what? I went to Jaragua. The chica was not working yesterday. The ladies of the band looks hot. I called the friend of the girl who is in Russia and we met at the Jaragua en went to the Hilton together. I entered the Hilton lobby at 3:00 am and there was nobody! Just the lady who makes coffee and did not care that I came there with a girl. So I had a nice session with a hot 18 yr girl who do not ask for money but want me to be her papi.
About streetgirls I observed a lot west from Hilton and another group from PLD headquarters on Independencia and east of it plus a group west of Jaragua near the place Lapsus used to be.
I am not sure why guys who go to SD to monger stay in expensive hotels that won't let bring guests and often do not have fridges, I spend 40 bucks and stay on El Conde in a guest friendly hotel. You pay top dollar and have to sneak girls in. WHY? Same Questions about casas. SD is hard and expensive enough without doing things the hard way.
The casa girls while attractive are putting their shoes on as soon as you pop.
BoricuaOnline
06-15-15, 04:45
I am not sure why guys who go to SD to monger stay in expensive hotels that won't let bring guests and often do not have fridges, I spend 40 bucks and stay on El Conde in a guest friendly hotel. You pay top dollar and have to sneak girls in. WHY? Same Questions about casas. SD is hard and expensive enough without doing things the hard way.
The casa girls while attractive are putting their shoes on as soon as you pop.I am going to answer why I sometimes stay at expensive hotels: 1) because I love it. I love to stay at a clean luxury confortable room with all the ammenities small hotels lack. I stayed in a large room in floor 15 ocean view with ice cold air conditioner, with everything clean everything top of the line with supreme and personalized service. I wanted for the first night and after working over sixty hours the previous five days to be alone or with limited company. Darihana, the sexy and pretty front desk lady make me sure that My room was booked for 2 and that my companion can arrive whenever she wants. 2) Because I can pay for it. 3) because I wanted to stay at a different place to see if I like it more than other places and repeat 3). Because my trips are not only for mongering purposes. 4). Because I always make a budget plus a vacation reserve and if my accounting says that I can pay twice for a room ten times better then I am allowed to do it.
I am in Sosua right now at Casa Cayena, next Wednesday I am going to stay at Hostal San Francisco de Asis for $40 per night for two nights and allready have set a fuck fest that includes a repeat with the pretty lady from yesterday a trio with a lady I met by a website years ago and her friend, both busty ladies and with a bi girl who said she is going to give a surprise.
Guess what? My last two nights are going to be spent at recently remodeled non guest friendly hotel Jaragua for free thanks to Marriot Rewards program. I have a theory that I am going to validate, based on some movements I saw yesterday apparently Jaragua is guest friendly again. Lets see.
BigLongBeach
06-15-15, 06:07
I typically try to stay at a inexpensive places when I take longer trips (5+). I make many trips a year so in order to that I have to stick to a 'housing' budget.
When I take short trips my budgets are smaller but I treat myself if its practical. If its a 3 night trip I didn't mind spending $100/ night at a 4 star place. Soft beds, pools, good food, and a large bathroom is worth the extra dollars.
I biggest complain about the cheap the hotels are the tiny bathrooms. It just irks me.
I am not sure why guys who go to SD to monger stay in expensive hotels.Different strokes.
I like to sleep alone, and don't like sharing a bed with 'stranger'. I don't want to worry if she going to rob be, kill me, get crazy, gets sick, her phone blows up, if she is gassy, etc. You get the point.
I don't mind at all if she gets is quick to leave.
When I negotiate 2 pops whenever I get takeout from the casas. Sometimes I get 2 pops in but when I don't it typically because I want to get rid of her. If the sex was good and there chemistry no one what's to leave (unless there are still time go get another john).
The casa girls while attractive are putting their shoes on as soon as you pop.
OldKool,
The full-pro (casa girl) vs semi-pro is a philosophical question.
It depends on each monger's individual taste. The advantages of casas are that you don't have to spend time and effort meeting girls, texting them and replying to their texts, setting up meetings, dealing with their immaturity. There's a lot of overhead there. It's almost like dating. Sometimes I'd rather pay more to avoid all the overhead. I have other interests in life outside of this crap.
On the other hand, you get more of a GFE with semi-pro's. I just don't value the GFE as much as some other guys. The bullshit that comes along with it is not worth it. I've never been a TLN guy. It makes no sense to pay for TLN when really I just want to bang her once. And having a girl in my apartment or in my bed while I'm not banging her is bothersome. She gets in the way of other things I want to be doing.
This doesn't mean I hate women. I've had great friendships and relationships with women who are 30-ish and operating on a higher level. But when it comes to raw hot sex, I like them 18-22 yo hot and dumb. This dichotomy is what leads me to P4P.
That said, I agree that casas in SD are overpriced and they never live up to their promises. But that's just SD. It is not true worldwide. Casas in Medellin, for example, are exceptional.
I will interested on the guest friendly policy at the Jaragua and info on the upgrades there. It's a great hotel. Thanks.
I am going to answer why I sometimes stay at expensive hotels: 1) because I love it. I love to stay at a clean luxury confortable room with all the ammenities small hotels lack. I stayed in a large room in floor 15 ocean view with ice cold air conditioner, with everything clean everything top of the line with supreme and personalized service. I wanted for the first night and after working over sixty hours the previous five days to be alone or with limited company. Darihana, the sexy and pretty front desk lady make me sure that My room was booked for 2 and that my companion can arrive whenever she wants. 2) Because I can pay for it. 3) because I wanted to stay at a different place to see if I like it more than other places and repeat 3). Because my trips are not only for mongering purposes. 4). Because I always make a budget plus a vacation reserve and if my accounting says that I can pay twice for a room ten times better then I am allowed to do it.
I am in Sosua right now at Casa Cayena, next Wednesday I am going to stay at Hostal San Francisco de Asis for $40 per night for two nights and allready have set a fuck fest that includes a repeat with the pretty lady from yesterday a trio with a lady I met by a website years ago and her friend, both busty ladies and with a bi girl who said she is going to give a surprise.
Guess what? My last two nights are going to be spent at recently remodeled non guest friendly hotel Jaragua for free thanks to Marriot Rewards program. I have a theory that I am going to validate, based on some movements I saw yesterday apparently Jaragua is guest friendly again. Lets see..
How much is a taxi from airport to Zona colonial, please? Calle el conde why calle espaillat. Thanks.
It is all about preference. I enjoy the chase and GFE make the experience all the better for me. I have done casas and leave with the same feeling as jacking off. You came but you know there is something missing. I have stayed in some expensive days in life as a travelling salesman. Give me a bed and a bathroom I a good. I try to get the most for my money.
I also love morning sex. Best way for me to start my day is getting my rocks off with a young hot babe.
OldKool,
The full-pro (casa girl) vs semi-pro is a philosophical question.
It depends on each monger's individual taste. The advantages of casas are that you don't have to spend time and effort meeting girls, texting them and replying to their texts, setting up meetings, dealing with their immaturity. There's a lot of overhead there. It's almost like dating. Sometimes I'd rather pay more to avoid all the overhead. I have other interests in life outside of this crap.
On the other hand, you get more of a GFE with semi-pro's. I just don't value the GFE as much as some other guys. The bullshit that comes along with it is not worth it. I've never been a TLN guy. It makes no sense to pay for TLN when really I just want to bang her once. And having a girl in my apartment or in my bed while I'm not banging her is bothersome. She gets in the way of other things I want to be doing.
This doesn't mean I hate women. I've had great friendships and relationships with women who are 30-ish and operating on a higher level. But when it comes to raw hot sex, I like them 18-22 yo hot and dumb. This dichotomy is what leads me to P4P.
That said, I agree that casas in SD are overpriced and they never live up to their promises. But that's just SD. It is not true worldwide. Casas in Medellin, for example, are exceptional.
How much is a taxi from airport to Zona colonial, please? Calle el conde why calle espaillat. Thanks.I believe the posted rate is $30 USD. You might be able to get one cheaper, but that's the set rate.
How much is a taxi from airport to Zona colonial, please? Calle el conde why calle espaillat. Thanks.I pay 1200-1300 pesos and had no problem so far. Of course they try to get always more.
Last trip to SD I caught the quaqua for a 100 pesos. Go up to second floor in airport. There is great place to exchange your money. Walk to the left another 50 feet to an exit. The qua qua is there. It was in decent shape and made no stops until center city SD close tp China town. I caught a cab there 200 pesos to my hotel on El Conde. 300 pesos total.
How much is a taxi from airport to Zona colonial, please? Calle el conde why calle espaillat. Thanks.
The only reason it's expensive is because it's the airport. There's some kinda monopoly pricing going on there, or the airport is charging taxis a fee to enter the airport. Some bullshit like that. Right outside the airport, a cab into the city would only be 300 pesos. I know this because a girl I'm banging lives right next to the airport. When she visits me I pay her cab and it's 300 pesos. So yeah, try to avoid the airport taxis. The guagua + taxi suggested below is a good plan. If you don't want to fuck around with the guagua, there are also airport taxis you can reserve in advance on the internet for about 700 pesos.
OldKool,
The full-pro (casa girl) vs semi-pro is a philosophical question.
It depends on each monger's individual taste. The advantages of casas are that you don't have to spend time and effort meeting girls, texting them and replying to their texts, setting up meetings, dealing with their immaturity. There's a lot of overhead there. It's almost like dating. Sometimes I'd rather pay more to avoid all the overhead. I have other interests in life outside of this crap.
On the other hand, you get more of a GFE with semi-pro's. I just don't value the GFE as much as some other guys. The bullshit that comes along with it is not worth it. I've never been a TLN guy. It makes no sense to pay for TLN when really I just want to bang her once. And having a girl in my apartment or in my bed while I'm not banging her is bothersome. She gets in the way of other things I want to be doing.
This doesn't mean I hate women. I've had great friendships and relationships with women who are 30-ish and operating on a higher level. But when it comes to raw hot sex, I like them 18-22 yo hot and dumb. This dichotomy is what leads me to P4P.
That said, I agree that casas in SD are overpriced and they never live up to their promises. But that's just SD. It is not true worldwide. Casas in Medellin, for example, are exceptional.You summed up my mongering philosophy pretty well. There is a sharp dichotomy between my pussy-hunting in the US and my mongering. I can date women in their 30's in the US who are generally fairly intelligent and w / whom I can develop a relationship/GFE. When on vacation for a week or two, I generally want a hot 19- or 20- year old that gives me more of a porn star experience. That's not to say I don't enjoy hanging with some of them and even develop some empathy. It's just not what I'm generally looking for.
As far as accommodations, when I'm vacation, I want to be comfortable, which means staying in a nice place. When I was in my 20's, I could stay in a dump and be happy. No more.
But to each his own. We all have our own mongering styles.
My goal is to have as much fun and to spend what is necessary for my hobby. I take the time to develop sexual relationship that provide a better experience that eclipses casas. As far a hotels I stay in clean reasonable priced. I spend as little time as possible in my room and almost never use hotel pools. I have experienced both moods.
My goal is make my hobby affordable enough that I can do it often. I make an effort not spend money for frills that do not enhance my goals. Example some guys have paid 200 for cab to Sosua from SD. I spend 10 dollars for the bus. Takes hour longer but so what. Some things are best practice.
You summed up my mongering philosophy pretty well. There is a sharp dichotomy between my pussy-hunting in the US and my mongering. I can date women in their 30's in the US who are generally fairly intelligent and w / whom I can develop a relationship/GFE. When on vacation for a week or two, I generally want a hot 19- or 20- year old that gives me more of a porn star experience. That's not to say I don't enjoy hanging with some of them and even develop some empathy. It's just not what I'm generally looking for.
As far as accommodations, when I'm vacation, I want to be comfortable, which means staying in a nice place. When I was in my 20's, I could stay in a dump and be happy. No more.
But to each his own. We all have our own mongering styles.
BoricuaOnline
06-16-15, 16:25
I called the friend of the girl who is in Russia and we met at the Jaragua en went to the Hilton together. I entered the Hilton lobby at 3:00 am and there was nobody! Just the lady who makes coffee and did not care that I came there with a girl. So I had a nice session with a hot 18 yr girlShe looks better in person.
BoricuaOnline
06-18-15, 08:16
A friend who used to give ham and cheese sandwiches and balloons to the ladies told me the fastest way to go from Sosua to Santo Domingo is to use the Caribe Bus expreso. This bus only make a stop at Puerto plata and outside La Vega so I called for expreso times. They told me 12:40 so I left Cayena at 12:00 but the bus left at 12:20. It was not the expreso. So The bus stop at Puerto Plata, Santiago in two different places, La Vega, Kingston, Caracas, La Habana and a few times in Santo Domingo for a total of 5 hours. It was horrible.
Outside the Caribe bus station there were hundreds of haitians and hundreds of police officer wearing helmets and shields and barricades along the avenue. It was a very sad scene, the face of the haitians there were very expressive. A mix of desperation and resignation.
I arrived to Hostal San Francisco de Asis, $90 for two nights, they now include breakfast. The walls were recently painted, the pastel colors are more appropiate for the Hostal. I got the room I requested, the last one I used and still the air conditioner is iced cold. The chica that is friend of the lady who is in Russia asked for $200. She became hardcore in less than a week! I am going to miss her. Other ladies I have on agenda failed to show. Lets eat, I am hungry, lets go to Villar Hermanos. They already know what I eat so I do not have to order. About two dozen teen girls from USA entered to Villar. They all survived crossing the Avenue as some of them looks scared or run to the other side. They are probably contestants of Miss Teen Sankiette or something. I walked to the colmadon in front of Navarro and there were two cueros baratos. They have this look like they have smoked something spectacular. I ordered a chiquita light and it was cold. This place is good for cold beers.
I walked to Jaragua, the singers were wearing tigh shorts. The thigh gap of one of the girls was spectacular. It was 3 x1 night. Guys age was 3 times the age of the ladies that escort them. One was very pretty, young, blonde baby face and a big butt on those jeans. She left with her Hugh Heffner but returned alone over an hour later. That guy must be dead by now. So she returned alone and I invitec her to sit with me. She is a funny chica, 19 yr old. At a moment she asked if I was tired so she offered a massage. Apparently all dominican ladies are masseuse or beauticians. We had fun there but I was not going to pay the $6,000 pesos she was asking.
So I walked by Independencia and the quality of the girls was better than last Saturday. I offered one lady 300 pesos for a blowjob. That is too little she replied. I told her that my cab driver told me that 300 pesos is the going price for blowjobs. She asked for 1000 pesos. At that time I observed two Politur coming in a motorcycle so I keep walking. Seconds later more Politur this time in a Pick up put their siren and yelled. "Stop and come here" . Oh my god, I got scared. Maybe they saw me scared because they added "police officer in bikes, stop and came here". Uff. Today was a transitional day, tomorrow is going to be nice.
Parkinsons
06-18-15, 15:44
At that time I observed two Politur coming in a motorcycle so I keep walking. Seconds later more Politur this time in a Pick up put their siren and yelled. "Stop and come here" . Oh my god, I got scared. Maybe they saw me scared because they added "police officer in bikes, stop and came here". Uff. Today was a transitional day, tomorrow is going to be nice.So what happened? Did you just ignore and keep walking? Sounds like the same mofos that pulled me over one time. I didn't have my drivers license on me then so I panicked and gave them cash to go away. You didn't do anything that you should be sacred of.
Thanks for all your reports. Too many gems, funny and informative.
I can not believe complaining about a 5 hour ride that cost less then 10 dollars. To drive would take 3 and half hours and cost about 100 bucks car and gas. If you sit your ass down and chill it is no problem. Then again a guy who goes to the DR looking for Russian women is a unigue guy.
BoricuaOnline
06-18-15, 20:11
So what happened? Did you just ignore and keep walking? Sounds like the same mofos that pulled me over one time. I didn't have my drivers license on me then so I panicked and gave them cash to go away. You didn't do anything that you should be sacred of.
Thanks for all your reports. Too many gems, funny and informative.I was walking, at the moment I was in the corner of Independencia and Pasteur. Moments earlier I was talking to a streetgirl so I thought they yelled at me related to that. I just keep walking.
BoricuaOnline
06-18-15, 20:24
I can not believe complaining about a 5 hour ride that cost less then 10 dollars. To drive would take 3 and half hours and cost about 100 bucks car and gas. If you sit your ass down and chill it is no problem. Then again a guy who goes to the DR looking for Russian women is a unigue guy.LOL. I complained because it usually takes me less than 4 hours using Metro buses.
Yes I am an unique guy. But I do not come here to look for Russian women. I have this girl I know, she is dominican. I told her hey baby, I am going to Santo Domingo this June 13! She replied "aww no, that's bad, I am going to be on Russia until July 24. What is she doing in Russia? We all know. So she recommended me this pretty 18 girl that lives in the Russian city of Santo Domingo Oeste, the one I dated last Saturday.
BoricuaOnline
06-18-15, 21:19
My internet contacts are failing me badly. One who was crazy to know you papi asked for 5,000 as a gift. Other asked for 18,200 pesos for a flat tv. Some other fail to confirm if they are coming or not, when they confirm I already discarded them because I was in other duties. I had breakfast here, they give you 5 choices with coffee and juice. It was good.
So I set a date with Kaina and again she also failed to show at the agreed time. So I went from Gazcue to Agora Mall using the train. I walk from my hotel and make a left on Delgado. Bq Ribs told me to walk about 11 minutes. I believe it is a little more. Anyway at the corner of Maximo Gomez and Delgado I took the station and paid 20 pesos. A cute college girl helped me during my trip. We went 3 stations north until the intersection with line 2 and go west 3 stops until Pedro Mir and here is Agora. The girl gave me her number in case I need more help. I spend less than 2 hours there, had lunch at Chef Pepper. I went back home the same way, using the train. Another 20 pesos. I saved 300 pesos on taxi ride. Out of the Balaguer station I walked to Independencia back to my hotel. While I was walking in front of a outdoor food place that is near where Lapsus used to be a girl said " papi what are you doing alone?" I felt like I was in Sosua. She was not bad, tall, dyed red hair. I told her I was walking to my hotel. "Take me with you papi". That girl was sent by monger God. I told her 1,500 and she said ok. We walked to my hotel. She asked if she can eat the Oreos over the minibar. I asked if I can eat her pussy. She said yes I said yes. It was good with her and she swallows! She spend about an hour here.
At the time I was writing this the electric service go off and the electric plant on. It was very noisy. If you stay at this hotel (San Francisco de Asis) ask for a room on the left wing.
BoricuaOnline
06-18-15, 23:28
Waleska, the former GBP and Casa Teresa employee just came out of my room. Man, how can I forget about her. Her sexual abilities are top notch, the best of the best. Today I just had one of my best experiences. This bed smells like her as she was very wet. The smell of this bed is very noticeable. I want Waleska back but she has to return to his business on Avenida Venezuela.
She told me that insite her place ladies charge 1700 pesos, outside for a longer time is 3,500 which is negotiable. She pays 1,000 pesos to cab drivers who bring clients so I understand if you arrive in your own car or no intermediary is in the transction you have better ability to negotiate.
BigLongBeach
06-19-15, 05:31
Did Waleska tell you the address? Name? Phone number?
It always cool to fine "new" places. When I went to hoe row on pastuer last month I didn't see anything worth the prices.
Waleska is a cool chic, I haven't seen her in atleast 5 years back when gbp had more than one attractive girls.
Waleska, the former GBP and Casa Teresa employee just came out of my room. Man, how can I forget about her. Her sexual abilities are top notch, the best of the best. Today I just had one of my best experiences. This bed smells like her as she was very wet. The smell of this bed is very noticeable. I want Waleska back but she has to return to his business on Avenida Venezuela.
She told me that insite her place ladies charge 1700 pesos, outside for a longer time is 3,500 which is negotiable. She pays 1,000 pesos to cab drivers who bring clients so I understand if you arrive in your own car or no intermediary is in the transction you have better ability to negotiate.
BoricuaOnline
06-19-15, 07:04
Did Waleska tell you the address? Name? Phone number?
It always cool to fine "new" places. When I went to hoe row on pastuer last month I didn't see anything worth the prices.
Waleska is a cool chic, I haven't seen her in atleast 5 years back when gbp had more than one attractive girls.Yes. See attached picture of her business card.
BigLongBeach
06-19-15, 21:16
Yes. See attached picture of her business card.Perfect. Thank you!
About 15 years ago there were two casas on Pasteur: Elegant Center and the other one where Girls House is currently located. Elegant Center had massage tables in every room and was cheaper than old Girls House. Girls house was for take out only, no rooms in site. Once you choose a chica you had two choices: go to your hotel room, at that time all large hotels were guest friendly or go to the cabanas west of the city. There was a large area with cabanas at the western end of the malecon. Taxis loved to take people there for obvious reasons but it was nice because the 12 minute ride west was a good moment to know your girl better, kiss her, insert a finger inside her, the usual.
Mistyk was constructed a few years later when large hotel became non guest friendly. Mystik basically substituted the cabanas and the large hotels as short term alternative for casa clients. I remember I did something moronic the first time I chose a girl By the time Mistyk hotel opened. I paid for the chica 500 pesos less than the usual cost, I waited for the girl, we went inside the taxi in front of the casa, cab driver said there is a new nice place nearby to take the chica and I said ok, so he moved a few meters from Girls house to Mistyk and asked for $5 US. The cab driver told me that I was a gentleman and it was not good manners to walk with the lady even if it was short distance, that it was classy to arrive in a taxi. I was drunk and horny so I paid him and went upstairs, the cost was $15 for 2 hours. It was nice but I still prefer the large and built for sex cabana rooms.Funny Story. Literally girls house is 10 feet to Mistyk. I know you are from Puerto Rico and I did that leaving the Old San Juan Hotel a few months ago. My condo was next door. I got in a cab, he went about 1/2 mile down the road made a you turn drove back made a left into my condo and when I got out I realized it was literally right next door to the Hotel / Casino. It would have taken me a 20 second walk instead it was a 10 min cab ride and $10. Oh well, the shit we do when were drunk.
BoricuaOnline
06-23-15, 05:31
I spent the weekend in Hotel Jaragua. I got a room in floor 8 with complimentary wifi thanks to Marriot Rewards. Lobby and casino area has free wifi for guest but it block pages like this forum. Jaragua official inauguration is scheduled for August. Stores are still closed, tennis courts and conference rooms are unfinished. Rooms are nice with multiple electric and usb connections, 46 inch television and other nice things. I got two nights free with Rewards points redemption. You enter the elevator with a key you put over an e -reader and it let you in. Food is pricey but good quality. I eat at their restaurant my best steak ever in Santo Domingo, ten times better than Chef Pepper ribeye. Chef Pepper ribeye is good. The mango mojito in Jaragua restaurant is a must.
I spent my weekend with a chica, a lawyer from El Millon. She has her own yipeta so no need for a taxi to go outside the hotel. This woman drained my energy. We had sex several times a day. The last night we went to zona colonial and we party until 2 am. We returned back to the hotel, I had only 4 hours available to sleep before heading to the airport and she wanted a final round. I fall asleep. She talked, I woke up, I answered her question and I fall asleep again.
We once dined in Andres Carnes. It is on Nunez de Caceres. The place has different indoor and outdooor sitting areas with space for a couple hundred of persons. If you are a meat lovers this is your place. They first take you to an area with fresh uncooked meat cuts, most of them seasoned. You can have chicken, pork, different steak cuts, all meats are grilled. I paid near 25 dollars for a half rack of ribs, a very large and meaty center cut pork chop, two chicken breasts, an avocado salad, rice, ripe plantain and drinks: soda, water and a glass of sangria.
Saturday night we went to two very nice places in Zona Colonial: Doubles Bar and lulu. Doubles has air conditioner and they play different musical genres, you can ask for your favorite and they are going to include in the playlist. I paid near 500 pesos for 3 cups of wine and a bottle of water. The crowd there are mostly college students, people in the low 20's to mid 30's and a puertorican of 46. The girls to guys ratio was 3 to 1 and all ladies were simple hot hot hot, eye candy place. Two lesbian couples looked very hot while dancing and kissing. Doubles and Lul are owned by the same people. Lul is a very nice place with outdoor sitting on Billini Park. The have an indoor patio. During the day the are mostly a restaurant but by night they turn into a night club that cater to people of all ages, even 46 year old puertoricans. The play live jazz on certain nights, sometimes club music. Their site is www.lulu.do . Both places are on Arzobisbo Merio street near the Cathedral. Near that place there is another park, Parque Duarte, a favorite for gay / lesbian crowd.
SD is not the best place to hunt but if you have someone to wife up with you can have a ball.
I spent the weekend in Hotel Jaragua. I got a room in floor 8 with complimentary wifi thanks to Marriot Rewards. Lobby and casino area has free wifi for guest but it block pages like this forum. Jaragua official inauguration is scheduled for August. Stores are still closed, tennis courts and conference rooms are unfinished. Rooms are nice with multiple electric and usb connections, 46 inch television and other nice things. I got two nights free with Rewards points redemption. You enter the elevator with a key you put over an e -reader and it let you in. Food is pricey but good quality. I eat at their restaurant my best steak ever in Santo Domingo, ten times better than Chef Pepper ribeye. Chef Pepper ribeye is good. The mango mojito in Jaragua restaurant is a must.
I spent my weekend with a chica, a lawyer from El Millon. She has her own yipeta so no need for a taxi to go outside the hotel. This woman drained my energy. We had sex several times a day. The last night we went to zona colonial and we party until 2 am. We returned back to the hotel, I had only 4 hours available to sleep before heading to the airport and she wanted a final round. I fall asleep. She talked, I woke up, I answered her question and I fall asleep again.
We once dined in Andres Carnes. It is on Nunez de Caceres. The place has different indoor and outdooor sitting areas with space for a couple hundred of persons. If you are a meat lovers this is your place. They first take you to an area with fresh uncooked meat cuts, most of them seasoned. You can have chicken, pork, different steak cuts, all meats are grilled. I paid near 25 dollars for a half rack of ribs, a very large and meaty center cut pork chop, two chicken breasts, an avocado salad, rice, ripe plantain and drinks: soda, water and a glass of sangria.
Saturday night we went to two very nice places in Zona Colonial: Doubles Bar and lulu. Doubles has air conditioner and they play different musical genres, you can ask for your favorite and they are going to include in the playlist. I paid near 500 pesos for 3 cups of wine and a bottle of water. The crowd there are mostly college students, people in the low 20's to mid 30's and a puertorican of 46. The girls to guys ratio was 3 to 1 and all ladies were simple hot hot hot, eye candy place. Two lesbian couples looked very hot while dancing and kissing. Doubles and Lul are owned by the same people. Lul is a very nice place with outdoor sitting on Billini Park. The have an indoor patio. During the day the are mostly a restaurant but by night they turn into a night club that cater to people of all ages, even 46 year old puertoricans. The play live jazz on certain nights, sometimes club music. Their site is www.lulu.do . Both places are on Arzobisbo Merio street near the Cathedral. Near that place there is another park, Parque Duarte, a favorite for gay / lesbian crowd.
SD is not the best place to hunt but if you have someone to wife up with you can have a ball.Easier said than done. Understand that BO is Latin, speaks Spanish and doesn't mind spending money on the finer things in life. My experience in SD is that most non-pros have agendas. School, work, church and family life so getting away for a few days with a strange gringo will require some good lying to the family. Usually I have to bring gifts for the kids and act like a boyfriend to get a weekend but they usually make it clear that in the future I have to meet the family and help out financially, which I've always ignored. Maybe that's why my SD girls have moved on to more generous gringos. With pros it's hard to wife up because they usually have shit to do and aren't sitting around waiting on a gringo to spend time with like Sosua.
One girl used to trick in Sosua between the ages of 19-22 before she ran out of guys to fuck so she moved home to SD with her family. I happened to walk into la Sierra store in SD and she worked there looking like a normal good girl. She was in church now and had a gringo fiance who lives in New York. She said she couldn't hang with me because she was a good girl now. I explained that I respected that. Next time I heard from her was when her old Sosua number sent me a text. I was surprised because that number stopped being in service years ago I thought. Damn! Her slick ass had "a gringo client list" on the old phone just in case the fiance didn't work out and she could backtrack. I've moved on since to Colombia, Cuba, PI, Thailand etc so SD was put on the end of the rotation. SD is fun but I think you have to live there to fully appreciate what it has to offer. A newbie showing up for a weekend will usually be eaten alive by SD.
LuLu is nice. You can get wine from the shop next door at good retail price and pay a corking fee to have it served at your table. The prices are high enough to keep out barrio Tigres and touts but affordable for any of us. It costs more than Chef Pepper and McDonalds so don't be shocked.
Boricua you are not supposed to be bringing women to your room at the Jaragua. You know that is not allowed. Why did you disrespect the new refurbished hotel and break the rules?
I spent the weekend in Hotel Jaragua. I got a room in floor 8 with complimentary wifi thanks to Marriot Rewards. Lobby and casino area has free wifi for guest but it block pages like this forum. Jaragua official inauguration is scheduled for August. Stores are still closed, tennis courts and conference rooms are unfinished. Rooms are nice with multiple electric and usb connections, 46 inch television and other nice things. I got two nights free with Rewards points redemption. You enter the elevator with a key you put over an e -reader and it let you in. Food is pricey but good quality. I eat at their restaurant my best steak ever in Santo Domingo, ten times better than Chef Pepper ribeye. Chef Pepper ribeye is good. The mango mojito in Jaragua restaurant is a must.
I spent my weekend with a chica, a lawyer from El Millon. She has her own yipeta so no need for a taxi to go outside the hotel. This woman drained my energy. We had sex several times a day. The last night we went to zona colonial and we party until 2 am. We returned back to the hotel, I had only 4 hours available to sleep before heading to the airport and she wanted a final round. I fall asleep. She talked, I woke up, I answered her question and I fall asleep again..
I spent the weekend in Hotel Jaragua. I got a room in floor 8 with complimentary wifi thanks to Marriot Rewards. Lobby and casino area has free wifi for guest but it block pages like this forum. Jaragua official inauguration is scheduled for August. Stores are still closed, tennis courts and conference rooms are unfinished. Rooms are nice with multiple electric and usb connections, 46 inch television and other nice things. I got two nights free with Rewards points redemption. You enter the elevator with a key you put over an e -reader and it let you in. Food is pricey but good quality. I eat at their restaurant my best steak ever in Santo Domingo, ten times better than Chef Pepper ribeye. Chef Pepper ribeye is good. The mango mojito in Jaragua restaurant is a must.
I spent my weekend with a chica, a lawyer from El Millon. She has her own yipeta so no need for a taxi to go outside the hotel. This woman drained my energy. We had sex several times a day. The last night we went to zona colonial and we party until 2 am. We returned back to the hotel, I had only 4 hours available to sleep before heading to the airport and she wanted a final round. I fall asleep. She talked, I woke up, I answered her question and I fall asleep again.
We once dined in Andres Carnes. It is on Nunez de Caceres. The place has different indoor and outdooor sitting areas with space for a couple hundred of persons. If you are a meat lovers this is your place. They first take you to an area with fresh uncooked meat cuts, most of them seasoned. You can have chicken, pork, different steak cuts, all meats are grilled. I paid near 25 dollars for a half rack of ribs, a very large and meaty center cut pork chop, two chicken breasts, an avocado salad, rice, ripe plantain and drinks: soda, water and a glass of sangria.
Saturday night we went to two very nice places in Zona Colonial: Doubles Bar and lulu. Doubles has air conditioner and they play different musical genres, you can ask for your favorite and they are going to include in the playlist. I paid near 500 pesos for 3 cups of wine and a bottle of water. The crowd there are mostly college students, people in the low 20's to mid 30's and a puertorican of 46. The girls to guys ratio was 3 to 1 and all ladies were simple hot hot hot, eye candy place. Two lesbian couples looked very hot while dancing and kissing. Doubles and Lul are owned by the same people. Lul is a very nice place with outdoor sitting on Billini Park. The have an indoor patio. During the day the are mostly a restaurant but by night they turn into a night club that cater to people of all ages, even 46 year old puertoricans. The play live jazz on certain nights, sometimes club music. Their site is www.lulu.do . Both places are on Arzobisbo Merio street near the Cathedral. Near that place there is another park, Parque Duarte, a favorite for gay / lesbian crowd.Sounds like you had a good time! I never caught the groove of the capital. But I'm glad you had fun! I'm in Santiago this weekend. Looking forward to it!
BigLongBeach
06-24-15, 16:40
I have been to andres carnes and I got sick. The mimic of picking your meat is cool but it can lead to cross contamination with everyone running around with uncooked meat. I have I go back would get my steak medium done, I couldn't risk it.
The best meal and steak I have had in santo domingo is Sophias.
http://www.sbg.com.do/?lang=en
If you have a upscale chic take her she will love it.
I have been to andres carnes and I got sick. The mimic of picking your meat is cool but it can lead to cross contamination with everyone running around with uncooked meat. I have I go back would get my steak medium done, I couldn't risk it.
The best meal and steak I have had in santo domingo is Sophias.
http://www.sbg.com.do/?lang=en
If you have a upscale chic take her she will love it.Looks good big homie! But I bet you thought you were back in Cali when they bought the check! LOL. I'll keep it in my notes in case I ever have a stunner I want to impress. Thanks!
BigLongBeach
06-24-15, 18:28
I have been there 3 times, all 3 times I have been there solo. I sometimes I just want a good "high end" meal.
Looks good big homie! But I bet you thought you were back in Cali when they bought the check! LOL. I'll keep it in my notes in case I ever have a stunner I want to impress. Thanks!
No prices on their website, I guess they don't want to scare away potential customers. LOL! The chef there does a good job. The atmosphere can be a little noisy on the weekends but that is true for almost anyplace in Santo Domingo. It's not a good choice to bring street girls. They prefer the ham and cheese sandwich anyway. LOL.
Looks good big homie! But I bet you thought you were back in Cali when they bought the check! LOL. I'll keep it in my notes in case I ever have a stunner I want to impress. Thanks!
BigLongBeach
06-25-15, 04:00
No prices on their website, I guess they don't want to scare away potential customers. LOL! The chef there does a good job. The atmosphere can be a little noisy on the weekends but that is true for almost anyplace in Santo Domingo. It's not a good choice to bring street girls. They prefer the ham and cheese sandwich anyway. LOL.I get a ny strip, side of fritos, side of mac and cheese, a jugo de chinola and sometimes desert. It comes out to 1500-2500 dop.
You will not see hood rats there. The parking lot if full of SUV and nice cars. Again this isn't a every day spot. I go there towards the end of my trips if I didn't spend too much.
Mr Enternational
06-25-15, 10:44
I get a ny strip, side of fritos, side of mac and cheese, a jugo de chinola and sometimes desert. It comes out to 1500-2500 dop.
You will not see hood rats there.You will when these guys finish with the place.
You will when these guys finish with the place.LOL. That's true. There's a reason why a lot of guys don't post anymore.
BigLongBeach
06-25-15, 15:40
To each their own. If you want to spend more on her meal than the price of her pussy! Its their money, do it up. LOL.
Got to love RD most time a pussy is more expensive than pussy.
LOL. That's true. There's a reason why a lot of guys don't post anymore.
You will when these guys finish with the place.
To each their own. If you want to spend more on her meal than the price of her pussy! Its their money, do it up. LOL.
Got to love RD most time a pussy is more expensive than pussy.If your best meal in SD was mac and cheese and side of fritos as company to a steak, I hate to think how the others were. I find DR food unsophisticated and great at killing the natural flavors of fish and seafood by overcooking it. They don't trim the meat in stews and desserts are an abomination. Other than a moro de gandules I don't find anything worth having it.
You will when these guys finish with the place.That is very funny. You are starting to make me laugh as much as Boricua! LOL!
First day / night in SD and not sure how I feel about it all LOL. Landed at SDQ and got searched by the drug police? WTF maybe because I had my bags locked up but that shit had me nervous for a min LOL. Maybe the suitcase smelled like weed because I smoked before leaving Cali and we got that strong haha who knows but no drugs so I'm out of there. My tagged amiga is outside waiting which is good I asked her to meet me so I had a translator I speak a little more than a little Spanish but needed the extra help. I'm staying at BQ Santo Domingo and was no problem coming up with the girl. She was with me at registration and they asked nothing about her I was told it was $20 night per person so I fully expect it on the bill when check out but long as no question asked I cool with it. Ate at a little "Mexican" restaurant by BQ and it was hardly Mexican food LOL. I'm from northern Cali and we got too many taquerias and only thing I recognized was carnitas which I ordered which came with frijoles why corn tortillas Over all it was a cool night she did her job, think she tried to pull a fast one but I'm from Cali and we sweat beezys we don't get sweated. Had to play like I was mad she hadn't gotten money yet so she got right. Real quick LOL She left early this morning which is perfect because another one coming from Santiago also from Tagged. She talk more Nasty so hope the action is mo nasty.
BigLongBeach
06-26-15, 18:29
If you can't find a good place eat your not going to the right types of places.
BTW, a baked 3 cheese truffled mac & cheese, medium-rare 13 oz rib eye, fritos with a light mojo dipping sauce and all executed properly, what is unsophisticated about that? O.
There are plenty of fine dining option in santo domingo:
My go to burger place is max's 50 - https://www.facebook.com/max50fifty.
I talked about sophias but if you want to go a more tourist-ish place go to pate palo -http://www.patepalo.com/.
There a ton of italian places. My favorite is la lasgna.
I agree about your assessment for the small 'cafeteria' type of places but you pay for you get. I don't know where you do in santo domingo or where you hangout but saying that there is nothing worth eating in RD is extreme.
If your best meal in SD was mac and cheese and side of fritos as company to a steak, I hate to think how the others were. I find DR food unsophisticated and great at killing the natural flavors of fish and seafood by overcooking it. They don't trim the meat in stews and desserts are an abomination. Other than a moro de gandules I don't find anything worth having it.
If you can't find a good place eat your not going to the right types of places.
BTW, a baked 3 cheese truffled mac & cheese, medium-rare 13 oz rib eye, fritos with a light mojo dipping sauce and all executed properly, what is unsophisticated about that? O.
There are plenty of fine dining option in santo domingo:
My go to burger place is max's 50 - https://www.facebook.com/max50fifty.
I talked about sophias but if you want to go a more tourist-ish place go to pate palo -http://www.patepalo.com/.
There a ton of italian places. My favorite is la lasgna.
I agree about your assessment for the small 'cafeteria' type of places but you pay for you get. I don't know where you do in santo domingo or where you hangout but saying that there is nothing worth eating in RD is extreme.You had not describe the mac and cheese or the sauce for the fritos but then it is not Dominican food and that was what I was talking about. Probably the steak was imported since beef in general it is not that great. Of course you can have a nice meal in a French, Italian, Spanish. Restaurants and I had but I stand by my assessment of local food and produce as it is consumed around the country and not just in a small area of the Capital.
You got searched because you came in from Colombia. It was nothing personal. LOL! I look forward to reading about the rest of your adventures.
First day / night in SD and not sure how I feel about it all LOL. Landed at SDQ and got searched by the drug police? WTF maybe because I had my bags locked up but that shit had me nervous for a min LOL. Maybe the suitcase smelled like weed because I smoked before leaving Cali and we got that strong haha who knows but no drugs so I'm out of there. My tagged amiga is outside waiting which is good I asked her to meet me so I had a translator I speak a little more than a little Spanish but needed the extra help. I'm staying at BQ Santo Domingo and was no problem coming up with the girl. She was with me at registration and they asked nothing about her I was told it was $20 night per person so I fully expect it on the bill when check out but long as no question asked I cool with it. Ate at a little "Mexican" restaurant by BQ and it was hardly Mexican food LOL. I'm from northern Cali and we got too many taquerias and only thing I recognized was carnitas which I ordered which came with frijoles why corn tortillas Over all it was a cool night she did her job, think she tried to pull a fast one but I'm from Cali and we sweat beezys we don't get sweated. Had to play like I was mad she hadn't gotten money yet so she got right. Real quick LOL She left early this morning which is perfect because another one coming from Santiago also from Tagged. She talk more Nasty so hope the action is mo nasty.
BoricuaOnline
06-27-15, 02:09
Probably the steak was imported since beef in general it is not that great. .The problem with dominican beef is that it mostly come from 100% natural grass feed cows, it lacks the antibiotics, hormones and other ingredients that makes imported beef so juicy. They come from cows that's walks freely on pasture land so they have more toned bodies than exported cows. This meat can be delicious if properly prepared. A year ago I bought a pound of local beefsteak because my girl wanted to have dinner at her house. Her mom made a very delicious beef with mangú(mangú is an anglicism of MAN this is GOOD). I ate her daughter as a dessert (ate her daughter means le comí el toto y se lo llené de leche).
Parkinsons
06-27-15, 05:00
You got searched because you came in from Colombia. It was nothing personal. LOL! I look forward to reading about the rest of your adventures.I think by "Cali" he meant he's from California and not the city in the South American country.
Specifically he said he's from "North Cali", like Silicon or Napa Valley where they are indeed famous for "sweating beezys".
Since we're on the topic of food, I'll chime in with my 2 pesos. The best meal I've had in the DR was from this hole-in-the-wall joint. Item #6 on the menu was my favorite. I couldn't stop going back for more. I was hooked. (Oh, and I'm not going to give out the location of the place because I don't want you guys start bringing hoodrats and ruin this fine establishment. Trusted senior members can PM me, however.)
Mr Enternational
06-27-15, 12:51
The best meal I've had in the DR was from this hole-in-the-wall joint. Item #6 on the menu was my favorite. I couldn't stop going back for more. I was hooked.Did you try the Homos? Dominicans and their spelling.
I think by "Cali" he meant he's from California and not the city in the South American country.
Specifically he said he's from "North Cali", like Silicon or Napa Valley where they are indeed famous for "sweating beezys".
)I am glad somebody understood what he was saying!! LOL!! I read the post 4 times and still couldn't grasp what he was trying to convey.
The problem with dominican beef is that it mostly come from 100% natural grass feed cows, it lacks the antibiotics, hormones and other ingredients that makes imported beef so juicy. They come from cows that's walks freely on pasture land so they have more toned bodies than exported cows. This meat can be delicious if properly prepared. A year ago I bought a pound of local beefsteak because my girl wanted to have dinner at her house. Her mom made a very delicious beef with mang(mang is an anglicism of MAN this is GOOD). I ate her daughter as a dessert (ate her daughter means le com el toto y se lo llen de leche).I appreciate the irony in your comments. However it is misplaced due to several well known facts. DR lacks pasture land to feed its bovine population having then to rely on a mixture of corn, soy and milo to complement the supply of grass. As the price of grain has steadily climbed since the ethanol ripoff mandate in the US, many cows in DR are not sufficientely fed resulting in under production of milk and meat. Also having cows moving around in search of grass makes the meat tough. Regardless of what the AMA may recommend, grain fed beef is far more superior in taste and tenderness due to their fat marbled texture than the grass fed counterpart which as you point out requires careful cooking. In regard to antibiotics, Dominican beef is not allowed in the US at the present time due to the presence of diseasessurely as tuberculosis, brucellosis and others. Maybe they could use some penicillin. No doubt you can find prime steaks in some areas but the quality of any country food supply is measured for what it is available to the general population for a affordable price and on that DR fails the test.
Tempoecorto
06-27-15, 20:13
Did you try the Homos? Dominicans and their spelling.Are you insinuating that the US population, as sampled on this forum, is any superior on that account?
Tempoecorto
06-27-15, 20:22
The problem with dominican beef is that it mostly come from 100% natural grass feed cows, it lacks the antibiotics, hormones and other ingredients that makes imported beef so juicy. ..... I ate her daughter as a dessert (ate her daughter means le com el toto y se lo llen de leche).Hahaha. Your last lines overdid even your usual facetious writing.
I traveled to Monte Cristi on several occasions (and to Loma de Cabrera and similar rural areas) and found cows in the pasture, all corralled followed closely by the herons. It is true that some animals look emaciated (and some are diseased. But we all know of mad cow disease history) but to me, grass fed cow is the best, especially if a little chewy. Indeed, at home I buy Australian meat flown from down under.
I agree 100% and I keyed in on your mention of the American Medical Association. Best to avoid beef and red meat in general, Dominican, US or other. Fruits, vegetables, and we aren't here to talk about nutrition LOL!
I appreciate the irony in your comments. However it is misplaced due to several well known facts. DR lacks pasture land to feed its bovine population having then to rely on a mixture of corn, soy and milo to complement the supply of grass. As the price of grain has steadily climbed since the ethanol ripoff mandate in the US, many cows in DR are not sufficientely fed resulting in under production of milk and meat. Also having cows moving around in search of grass makes the meat tough. Regardless of what the AMA may recommend, grain fed beef is far more superior in taste and tenderness due to their fat marbled texture than the grass fed counterpart which as you point out requires careful cooking. In regard to antibiotics, Dominican beef is not allowed in the US at the present time due to the presence of diseasessurely as tuberculosis, brucellosis and others. Maybe they could use some penicillin. No doubt you can find prime steaks in some areas but the quality of any country food supply is measured for what it is available to the general population for a affordable price and on that DR fails the test.
BoricuaOnline
06-28-15, 01:15
Hahaha. Your last lines overdid even your usual facetious writing.
I traveled to Monte Cristi on several occasions (and to Loma de Cabrera and similar rural areas) and found cows in the pasture, all corralled followed closely by the herons. It is true that some animals look emaciated (and some are diseased. But we all know of mad cow disease history) but to me, grass fed cow is the best, especially if a little chewy. Indeed, at home I buy Australian meat flown from down under.My family have lands with all imaginable agricultural products from avocado to cocunuts, plantain, coffee, oranges, everything. There were also lands dedicated to raise pigs, hens, cows among other animals. I always see cows eating grass, they never touch the corn. They never took it even to make pop corn. Off course sometimes animals get sick and there were products to cure them. Sometimes we had to sacrifice them. Natural feed is the best. I once met a lady in Santiago who suddenly get on her period. It was evident she was using it as an excuse as she was not interested to have sex. I told her "you have to sacrifice something, your ass your mouth to BBBJCIM " as I invested some cash on dining and gifts. I wonder if she eat grass feed local cow beef or exported beef. I am going to ask her.
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