Hong Kong Club Reports

[Baxter Slade]

Friends!

I'm going to HK Monday through Wednesday (5/14 - 5/16). I have some questions that perhaps folks can help me with:

1) Does Hong Kong's front desk break a $20 bill into 20 ones? Wondering if I need to break bigger denomination bills in advance before heading to Tijuana.

2) What's the earliest you guys have been able to check into your hotel? I'm flying into San Diego around 9 am Monday and would like to head over ASAP to nap / unwind.

3) What ATM do people prefer for getting pesos?

4) What half-hour and one hour rates have people negotiated / seen on non-busy days?

Looking forward to having a great time! I'll try to post a summary of my debauchery soon.

Vin.1. The front bar keeps bundles of 1's available I have seen guys exchange 100 dollar bills for 1's. I prefer to hit my bank before a trip to stock up on 1's 5's and 10's.

2. Check in time is 3 and they try to stick to it. But they will most likely have a room available and maybe by tipping or sweet talk you can earn ponts with the clerk " hey I'm running over to Oxxo can I get you a coffee or something ".

3. can't help you with the ATM I usually stop at a cambio at the border before I cross.

4. While I pretty much stick to SG's. You are on the right track everything in Mexico is negotiable. And supply and demand will come into play on a slow day. And it will be in the best interest of the chica to make a deal rather than sit around and twittle her thumbs. BUT you do want to be careful not to negotiate to good of a deal so as to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off and end up with lousy service. A good idea is to offer some sort of incentive. A low ball deal with the promise of extra money if she makes you very very happy.

[Captain Solo]

1. HK's front desk normally has no cash and does not make change. The bars do all cash transactions and have unlimited amount of $1. HK bars allegedly hold the largest $1 notes ever issued by the US treasury.

2. Mon and Tues are Cascada's discount days, busy and difficult to check in early, but it never hurts to ask. Usually the cleaning crews would still be cleaning the rooms past 7 or 8 and clients have to wait. If you need to crash early, rent a room at hotel Leyva next to Chicago Club for $20. Leyva is less busy and always has room early.

Cascada's clerks, Angel, Miguel, Javier, have worked there for years, are professional, polite and helpful. If they are helpful to you, slip them a $1 or 20 pesos propina after a satisfactory transaction, not before. The clients are their bosses and should act like bosses. Don't offer to buy coffee or do errands for them, or they will start raising their rates and asking the bosses to kiss their asses for favors. Over all Mexican hotel workers are warm, friendly, humble, helpful, personal, fun, not cold, manipulative, demanding like European. Javier, the chubby guy with ruddy face, confirmed there are no limits, no extra fees and was encouraging me to bring 100 girls to my room every night hehe.

3. The Scotia ATM next to Adelita's door charges only 9. 5 pesos terminal fee, looked like the cheapest and most secured place to draw cash.

4. Rates are negotiable and vary widely in HK. Try to act genuinely warm, fun, loving, caring and polite to the girls, making them feel loved and wanted. You may have some very hot and sexy sessions without having to drain your bank accounts.

Share with the bros what works and what fails with the girls in the club.

[JohnCandy]

Bar tenders work on salaries. They service meseros but meseros never tip them and neither should the bros if they buy directly from the bar. If you tip bar tenders, they would throw the money into the cash register and look at the tippers like they are retarded. Bar tenders handle lots of cash. They are close confidantes of the owner. If they ever steal from the till, guess what would happen to them.

So far the bars' machinery seem to be working smoothly. Have not heard of complaints or labor problems. From clients' perspectives, prices in Tijuana bars for drinks, fichas and sex with the chicas have gone up significantly relative to local costs of living.

With all due respect captain, this did not seem to be the case in my experience. So I just want to verify.

I prefer to sit at the bars instead of booth or right at the stages. It's seems like I get hassled less by meseros when I'm sitting at the bar. I almost always order beer directly from the bar tenders. They always seem to be appreciative to tips and provide me with faster service when I tip. If memory serves correct, on my last trip I sat at the back bar and the bar tender would put my tips in a jar next to the cash register. Very similar to what would happen at a typical bar in the USA. Did I misunderstand your post?

Thanks,

JC.

[HorseTrader]

... Do you see better results going and picking the girl you want? Or sitting back waiting for miss right now to come to you. There are obvious benefits to each. I'm just wondering if anyone has seen a trend in one approach over the other, specifically for that "wow" session.The "wow" sessions that I have experienced have been only with girls that showed some interest in me from the first minute we met. When I simply approach the girl that I like, her performance has usually felt more mechanical. This is often true for me, but not always.

I never go with a girl just because she shows much interest in me.

[Dcrist0527]

Thanks. That's what I'm thinking. I just need to develop patience. LOL. And a willingness to pass on the first that looks fantastic.


The "wow" sessions that I have experienced have been only with girls that showed some interest in me from the first minute we met. When I simply approach the girl that I like, her performance has usually felt more mechanical. This is often true for me, but not always.

I never go with a girl just because she shows much interest in me.

[ClamSlammer]

This is from my experience. (Approx two years of monthly mongering in Tijuana.).

If the girls are gone more than an hour, the staff will come looking for them.

I have been told directly, by staff and by the girls, that if I want them to stay longer than an hour in the room, it is best to buy a bucket.

"I want to stay longer, and if you buy a bucket, I will not be scolded," said one sweetie.

So, my conclusion is that the girls can stay as long as they want, but the bar must get compensation.

Doesn't seem to be a distinction between arriba and just exiting for personal reasons.

If she doesn't make her ficha quota, they are going to check the sheet to see how much time she was off-site. For any reason.

...they have a 10 or 20 ficha quota.I've been going to Tijuana for over a decade and anybody who's followed the major Tijuana boards knows that my knowledge of HK is unsurpassed. And I can say that HK girls do not have a ficha quota. And the bucket "requirement" is just a scam that meseros pull on mongers who they perceive to be newbie / clueless. There is no bucket requirement. Don't ever buy a bucket just to take / keep a chica upstairs. Many chicas will go along with the scam just because they pocket $340 mx out of every bucket.

The chicas can stay upstairs for as long as they want. But management doesn't like chicas going arriba because it doesn't make the bar any money, especially if the monger has rented a room for the night. Management wants the putas in the bar drinking $9 dls fichas. If a chica stays upstairs too long nothing happens to them. And "there doesn't seem to be a distinction between arriba and personal reasons" because chicas are not permitted to leave for personal reasons. If you took a chica out of the bar to eat then the doorman mistakenly assumed you were taking her arriba.

[Centurion200]

1. The front bar keeps bundles of 1's available I have seen guys exchange 100 dollar bills for 1's. I prefer to hit my bank before a trip to stock up on 1's 5's and 10's.Going to Tijuana for my first time next month and I'm a total novice with Mexico, so please excuse a dumb question.

It sounds like they take US currency in HK. Is that so?

Do I need pesos in there at all, for the beer or the girls?

[TomJackin]

Going to Tijuana for my first time next month and I'm a total novice with Mexico, so please excuse a dumb question.

It sounds like they take US currency in HK. Is that so?

Do I need pesos in there at all, for the beer or the girls?US dollars are just fine.

[CaptJackSparro]

You basically answered your own question, but for those who needs things spelled out. Here's a life / girls tip: your interactions with people will always be better if there's mutual desire. Unless you have some sort of twisted dominance fantasy, don't take a girl upstairs just because she's hot if she's boring and doesn't seem genuinely happy with your company.

The challenge is to not think with your dick, which can be insanely tough at HK.

Approach your interactions as friendly interviews for your new company: DEEZ NUTS Inc. You are hiring for the temp. Position of Assistant Nut Drainer. Does she seem excited about her new position? Seriously. Is this person worth hiring? You'll be able to tell within a few minutes of interaction if she's going to be a good fit for the role.

Be picky!


I'm preparing for my trip. I've always had decent success at HK. Who can't, right? I've had many decent sessions with an occasional "wow" session. Curious if anyone has had better success with your approach. Do you see better results going and picking the girl you want? Or sitting back waiting for miss right now to come to you. There are obvious benefits to each. I'm just wondering if anyone has seen a trend in one approach over the other, specifically for that "wow" session.

[Captain Solo]

HK's premium beers are $4 or 68 pesos before 8 PM, and $5 or 85 pesos thereafter. You can use either dollars or pesos with 17 to 1 rate.

The girls will quote $80 or $100 for a session plus $18 for a ST room in Cascada, but if you offer them local guys' rate of 1,000 pesos, they would balk a little but usually go along with it.

Girls in bars and on the street usually use the easier 10 to 1 rate, conveniently convert $20 to 200 pesos and $100 to 1,000 pesos. Use pesos with the girls and they will accept lower local rates.

[CaptJackSparro]

Local rate is roughly $60? Damn, I need to quit being lazy and convert my money before crossing. Lowest quote I've ever gotten in HK for 30 min was $70 USD and I thought that was a great deal for one girl.

Another pro tip: 3 some should always be cheaper rate for each girl than $80. $140 (70 per girl) is the high end. Closer to $100 is the low end, which I've received. You have to pay double for the room ($34 I think) when you do a 3 sum. Bringing this up in your negotiation helps. "I want you both, but the room is expensive, etcccc".

Why do the girls accept way less than their standard quote for a 3 sum? My guess is that they figure at least both girls made money. You could say they are doing half the work, but arriba isn't exactly "hard" work, so.


HK's premium beers are $4 or 68 pesos before 8 PM, and $5 or 85 pesos thereafter. You can use either dollars or pesos with 17 to 1 rate.

The girls will quote $80 or $100 for a session plus $18 for a ST room in Cascada, but if you offer them local guys' rate of 1,000 pesos, they would balk a little but usually go along with it.

Girls in bars and on the street usually use the easier 10 to 1 rate, conveniently convert $20 to 200 pesos and $100 to 1,000 pesos. Use pesos with the girls and they will accept lower local rates.

[CaptJackSparro]

This is pretty much true at any of the bars, but especially in HK because it is the most popular and attracts the most "talent". There are two types of girls who work there: temporary and permanent.

Temporary: typically girl, not from Tijuana, doing this for quick money.

Permanent: Lives in Tijuana or nearby, hardened WG. Usually older and has worked there for more than a year.

Permanent workers are low energy, hardened hoes. They've seen it all and heard it all. Just like any job. These girls are tired and are only there to get paid. Short of meeting a celebrity, these girls are boring as fuck to seasoned mongers. They are essentially sex robots.

Temporary workers provide the best bang for you buck because they aren't hardened and tired of taking dick for the past two years to make ends meet. Dave Chappell was right when he talked about "how mileage" in his latest Netflix special: a woman can only take so much dick before she goes crazy or becomes emotionally numb.

Temporary chicas are higher energy and more open to new, kinky experiences.

Can you imagine getting paid to have sex while you are at an adult resort for a few weeks? Most of us happily pay for all-inclusive, adult vacations. These girls are getting paid to have a sex-filled adventure. Many of them are open to trying freaky shit while they are essentially on vacation.

My best experiences have been with girls who were only visiting for a few weeks. Your heart should flutter when a girl tells you she lives in another Mexican state!

[Travv]

Saw a guy yelling and grabbing at a chica while she was entering the north elevator around 5:30 pm. He was yelling something about "You girls only want money but you will never bed a millionaire." All kinds of crazy talk and yelling. Finally the girl got away from him after he kept yelling and jamming the elevator door. Once the elevator started moving, she told me that some men fall in love in Hong Kong Club and get jealous, but Hong Kong Club is not a place to fall in love with a chica." The guy got pretty emotional. Apparently he was looking for love in all the wrong places! Don't be this guy!

[ShiftyRabbit]

Debating whether to get VIP. On the website, it says VIP includes:

- Free Limo Pickup & Drop Off.

- Free Security Parking.

- Personal Waiter.

- First Drink Free.

- Access to VIP Rooms.

- Half Off Private Dances.

- 20% Off In Hotel.

- 80% Off Hotel Monday & Tuesday.

- Extended Hotel Time.

What are the VIP rooms? What is the extended hotel time? Does the 20%/80% off still apply for the $17 30-minute hotel rooms?

[CaptJackSparro]

Brothers,

There is a disturbance in the force. As of late, I am hearing about more and more guys getting quoted and paying $120 for half hour sessions.

What in the actual are some of you guys thinking?

Do you know what kind of people make $120 per hour? Doctors. Per hour. Some of you are paying these girls in half an hour what a doctor makes in an hour.

With the cost of living being lower in Mexico and these girls probably not having to pay much in taxes since they are in a cash business, some can actually save more than a doctor in the US can.

Please stop letting these girls convince you they are doing you some kind of huge favor by spreading their legs for $120. Most of these girls come from poverty and you are actually doing them a huge favor when you provide them business that affords them the opportunity to potentially make more than a doctor for nothing other than being born pretty. Think about what her alternatives are considering most of these girls have little to no education. Slim to none to make comparable money. Without HK most of these girls would be struggling.

Many of these girls have bad attitudes that are enabled by guys sniveling at their feet. Please stop treating them like goddesses. Quickest way to humanize them if you haven't been around many pretty women is to picture them taking a shit. They are human.

Lately I'm noticing entitled attitudes in Hong Kong and part of the problem is that Americans are notoriously shitty negotiators. Many guys take the first number they quote and feel lucky to be granted access to Princess Ficha's vagina. Stop.

So here's a tip: anything over $80 she is treating you like a sucker. Counteroffer hard or walk away. Captain solo says use pesos for cheaper rates. You can save 10-20 bucks using pesos. I've verified rates are cheaper with BGs and SGs using pesos. They aren't good at converting and are used to receiving dollars. We need more guys to help humble some of these girls up.

I don't fault these girls for hustling, but we may soon find $100 as the standard rate in HK if we continue to tolerate price gouging and inflation.

HK is an amazing place when compared to the US monger scene, but you need to consider their cost of living. An escort in SD can see about 10 guys for $1500. Lets say an HK BG sees 10 guys for $100.1500 in SD gets you a shitty 1 bedroom or studio. $1000 in Tijuana gets you a luxury penthouse condo or beachfront property, with money to spare.

US dollar is near an all-time high, so HK is on the verge of becoming the most expensive its ever been if we don't spread the word to stop paying above standard in HK. There's no way prices should be going up in $20. Increments with the dollar this strong and little to nothing about HK changing in terms of service.

Stop overpaying and letting the girls act entitled. Reward humble. Punish arrogant.

[JohnCandy]

Spot on! Bravo! And hilarious.


You basically answered your own question, but for those who needs things spelled out. Here's a life / girls tip: your interactions with people will always be better if there's mutual desire. Unless you have some sort of twisted dominance fantasy, don't take a girl upstairs just because she's hot if she's boring and doesn't seem genuinely happy with your company.

The challenge is to not think with your dick, which can be insanely tough at HK.

Approach your interactions as friendly interviews for your new company: DEEZ NUTS Inc. You are hiring for the temp. Position of Assistant Nut Drainer. Does she seem excited about her new position? Seriously. Is this person worth hiring? You'll be able to tell within a few minutes of interaction if she's going to be a good fit for the role.

Be picky!

[Captain Solo]

VIP rooms are the sky boxes on the second floor, hanging over the strip stage, where you can take girls to party in private, while peeping on the sexy activities below. The girls usually suggest you buy a bucket and lock the door so meseros won't come in and out selling fichas. Guys have claimed sex and BBBJ in that room. For some people, it's a kinky turn on to make out and have sex with girls behind the glass windows.

With HK VIP cards, time in Cascada's room extends to 45 minutes with bar girls and 30 minutes for street girls, good only once a night. HK VIPs seem to have more relaxed time enforcement in Cascada. For many years I have not had Cascada's cleaning crew knock on door even though I sometimes spend long time in the rooms with both bar and street girls. Hotel Coahuila with Adelita are known to knock on doors way early.

The 20/80% discounts apply only to Cascada's all night room rate, not ST rate.

- Access to VIP Rooms.

- Half Off Private Dances.

- 20% Off In Hotel.

- 80% Off Hotel Monday & Tuesday.

- Extended Hotel Time.

What are the VIP rooms? What is the extended hotel time? Does the 20%/80% off still apply for the $17 30-minute hotel rooms.

[CaptJackSparro]

Sucks to be that guy. He probably just got done paying $120 for starfish sex and the girl couldn't wait to get out of there.

The guy kind of sounds like a douche if he was saying she will never get with another millionaire like him and then whine about her being a gold digger. Hah. The amount of retirees these chicks sleep with means they sleep with millionaires pretty often, except they aren't advertising it to everyone in Cascadas like this clown did.


Saw a guy yelling and grabbing at a chica while she was entering the north elevator around 5:30 pm. He was yelling something about "You girls only want money but you will never bed a millionaire." All kinds of crazy talk and yelling. Finally the girl got away from him after he kept yelling and jamming the elevator door. Once the elevator started moving, she told me that some men fall in love in Hong Kong Club and get jealous, but Hong Kong Club is not a place to fall in love with a chica." The guy got pretty emotional. Apparently he was looking for love in all the wrong places! Don't be this guy!

[ShiftyRabbit]

With HK VIP cards, time in Cascada's room extends to 45 minutes with bar girls and 30 minutes for street girls, good only once a night. HK VIPs seem to have more relaxed time enforcement in Cascada. For many years I have not had Cascada's cleaning crew knock on door even though I sometimes spend long time in the rooms with both bar and street girls. Hotel Coahuila with Adelita are known to knock on doors way early.Hmm. I might buy it for this alone. I'm a guy that lasts longer, and it's really fucking hard for me to finish when the cum boys and the girls are pressuring me to. If you rent a room for the night and want her to stay for a full hour instead of 30 minutes, is it usually still the same rate?

[Dcrist0527]

That's exactly why I just rent the room, even if I don't spend the night there. On Monday and Tuesday, if you have VIP, it's cheaper to rent a room for the night than it is for a half-hour. Other nights, if you have 2 sessions it pays for itself. I just take too long and it's impossible if I'm rushed.


Hmm. I might buy it for this alone. I'm a guy that lasts longer, and it's really fucking hard for me to finish when the cum boys and the girls are pressuring me to. If you rent a room for the night and want her to stay for a full hour instead of 30 minutes, is it usually still the same rate?

[TjBrazil]

What are you guys thinking paying 70 to 100 for 30 minutes plus 18 for the room. 88 to 118 for 30 minutes is 176 or 236 an hour. Plus the room is small people knock on the door. If you shower first that's 25 minutes now. There are so many escort services in Tijuana now that are reasonably priced for 1 he and they come to your nice hotel room where you can shower together which is my favorite thing to do with these girls. I haven't taken a girl to the room since the robe fee incident years back. F HK I got to grab ass and see who I can get to go back to my hotel the next day.

[Captain Solo]

Before entering the room, tip Cascada's cleaning guy $1, smile and gesture to him not to knock. Works every time!

Hmm. I might buy it for this alone. I'm a guy that lasts longer, and it's really fucking hard for me to finish when the cum boys and the girls are pressuring me to. If you rent a room for the night and want her to stay for a full hour instead of 30 minutes, is it usually still the same rate?

[Captain Solo]

Everything is negotiable in Tijuana.

A few of my wingmen spent hours with girls in the room for the normal fares.

It's best to take the girls for normal 30-minute sessions. If you like the girl and want more time, offer her 500 to 1000 pesos to stay another hour. She's already in the room, and would most likely take more money to stay.

If you rent a room for the night and want her to stay for a full hour instead of 30 minutes, is it usually still the same rate?

[Captain Solo]

Many single and divorced guys are bored, lonely, love-deficient, sex-starved, emotionally-needy and weak. They fall hard for whatever little attention and fake affection from the girls in HK.

A few of my wingmen were deeply in love with bar girls in HK, Tropical and Las Chevelas. They spent all their money buying fichas for the girls to sit with them, listening to some of the crudest BS and rudest manipulation. These guys could not speak and understand Spanish that well, so the relationships never got past superficial levels. They would feel good spending all their money on the girls to feel whatever connection or ownership.

To be fair, Tijuana girls are married or in relationships and are not as mercenary as girls in Asia. But they make their living by selling fichas, company and sex. Anyone wanting exclusive relationships would have to offer at least the same level of their earnings in the bars, may be a lot more, with promises of permanency and security. With bar girls, they are not your girls, just your turns.

There is good news. Civilian girls in Tijuana are available for relationships for whatever motivations, but they do not require continual money compensation. A few guys I know live with beautiful girls in their twenties, with just basic living expenses. Perhaps the girls enjoy clubbing, restaurants and vacation they cannot afford.

Guys seeking genuine relationships with girls should look outside putas bars and La Zona Norte.

Saw a guy yelling and grabbing at a chica while she was entering the north elevator around 5:30 pm. He was yelling something about "You girls only want money but you will never bed a millionaire." All kinds of crazy talk and yelling. Finally the girl got away from him after he kept yelling and jamming the elevator door. Once the elevator started moving, she told me that some men fall in love in Hong Kong Club and get jealous, but Hong Kong Club is not a place to fall in love with a chica. " The guy got pretty emotional. Apparently he was looking for love in all the wrong places! Don't be this guy!

[Captain Solo]

It's the worst when the $120 starfish turns into a big, loose, oozing, stinking dead starfish.

That's when you quickly ask the dead starfish to exit the room with the stench. Hehe.

Some bar girls never care about personal hygiene.

Sucks to be that guy. He probably just got done paying $120 for starfish sex and the girl couldn't wait to get out of there.

The guy kind of sounds like a douche if he was saying she will never get with another millionaire like him and then whine about her being a gold digger. Hah. The amount of retirees these chicks sleep with means they sleep with millionaires pretty often, except they aren't advertising it to everyone in Cascadas like this clown did.

[Zhagolo52]

Some will never learn!!


Many single and divorced guys are bored, lonely, love-deficient, sex-starved, emotionally-needy and weak. They fall hard for whatever little attention and fake affection from the girls in HK.

A few of my wingmen were deeply in love with bar girls in HK, Tropical and Las Chevelas. They spent all their money buying fichas for the girls to sit with them, listening to some of the crudest BS and rudest manipulation. These guys could not speak and understand Spanish that well, so the relationships never got past superficial levels. They would feel good spending all their money on the girls to feel whatever connection or ownership.

To be fair, Tijuana girls are married or in relationships and are not as mercenary as girls in Asia. But they make their living by selling fichas, company and sex. Anyone wanting exclusive relationships would have to offer at least the same level of their earnings in the bars, may be a lot more, with promises of permanency and security. With bar girls, they are not your girls, just your turns.

There is good news. Civilian girls in Tijuana are available for relationships for whatever motivations, but they do not require continual money compensation. A few guys I know live with beautiful girls in their twenties, with just basic living expenses. Perhaps the girls enjoy clubbing, restaurants and vacation they cannot afford.

Guys seeking genuine relationships with girls should look outside putas bars and La Zona Norte.

Saw a guy yelling and grabbing at a chica while she was entering the north elevator around 5:30 pm. He was yelling something about "You girls only want money but you will never bed a millionaire." All kinds of crazy talk and yelling. Finally the girl got away from him after he kept yelling and jamming the elevator door. Once the elevator started moving, she told me that some men fall in love in Hong Kong Club and get jealous, but Hong Kong Club is not a place to fall in love with a chica. " The guy got pretty emotional. Apparently he was looking for love in all the wrong places! Don't be this guy!

[Zhagolo52]

BOOM! That's wining right there.


Before entering the room, tip Cascada's cleaning guy $1, smile and gesture to him not to knock. Works every time!

Hmm. I might buy it for this alone. I'm a guy that lasts longer, and it's really fucking hard for me to finish when the cum boys and the girls are pressuring me to. If you rent a room for the night and want her to stay for a full hour instead of 30 minutes, is it usually still the same rate?

[MgTow537]

What are you guys thinking paying 70 to 100 for 30 minutes plus 18 for the room. 88 to 118 for 30 minutes is 176 or 236 an hour. Plus the room is small people knock on the door. If you shower first that's 25 minutes now. There are so many escort services in Tijuana now that are reasonably priced for 1 he and they come to your nice hotel room where you can shower together which is my favorite thing to do with these girls. I haven't taken a girl to the room since the robe fee incident years back. F HK I got to grab ass and see who I can get to go back to my hotel the next day.Exactly, that's why I don't go to HK anymore. The last time I went there an okay-looking chica asked me for $100 on a Sunday's morning. I was like wtf. What made them think they deserve to make $100 for half an hour. I noticed some of the chicas in HK were starting to have bad attitudes too.

[SBeach25]

The guy kind of sounds like a douche if he was saying she will never get with another millionaire like him and then whine about her being a gold digger. Hah. The amount of retirees these chicks sleep with means they sleep with millionaires pretty often, except they aren't advertising it to everyone in Cascadas like this clown did.In my years I've encountered many walks of life. Met some OG's in MDE and these guys have been in the game 20 yrs before me. I met four guys from the US, all retired. One a marine gunny, a texan oil tycoon, real estate investor and a silver spoon. All fly in together in a personal jet, straight flight. I've talked with these guys daily at a coffee shop in MDE and sometimes they enjoy flying into Tijuana and have a little fun just to spice it up. What's cool about them is that they don't brag their money, they enjoy it simple. Hell, I've done casa runs with them where these guys go get girls for $20 a pop. I see idiots all the time in the Bars in Tijuana thinking they ballers but I just smh and laugh.

[Captain Solo]

The chicas are quick to see through the thick BS phony guys claim big wealth to hook them. I know a few allegedly wealthy guys who quickly went dead broke thanks to the charms of bar chicas in Tijuana hehe.

A private jet for mongering, huh? What could be better than that?

What could be richer and more exciting than immersing in local life styles, enjoying the unique local tastes, flavors, feelings just like local people, without social barriers and unencumbered by their wealth or local status?

What could be more fun than sharing the sexy experiences on location with a few of your buddies?

There are risks that the chicas may claim they were screwed and ripped off, local policia may impound the jet hehe.

I would love to do it, but have to start saving my money to buy a jet first. Might take many years. Meanwhile I do conduct charter flights with a couple wingmen down Freeway 5 every weekend hehe.

[Lew Ashby]

Day 1:

Got in around 4:30 and it was popping! Originally seated in the north end, I flagged down a waiter (Roberto) who was able to get us a sweet table in the front right in the middle of all the action Roberto was a great guy and took care of me for the rest of the time there. Got a beer and looked around, some lookers for sure. Did a quick walk around to see who caught my eye. One had an incredible body with what seemed to be 0 fat on her (Shadow). She noticed me checking her out then wisely leaned her butt up against the side of my chair and sat innocently. Introduced myself and got her a ficha, and she sat on my lap. Felt all the goods and she passed inspection. I have to add that I just read CaptJackSparro's last post and it made me laugh out loud. I will admit that Shadow had that hardened look to her, but I was all about that pornstar body to be honest. She said 100 usd, I said I only have pesos, she said 2000, I laughed and said 1000, soy mexicano, she laughed and said 1700, and I said 1500. She agreed and off we went. She moreorless forced my hand to tip that guy who puts jackets on the girls, but at that point I figured why risk pissing her off. Not much like it matters, I felt like I was in a soapy in Pattaya; pretty mechanical, but oh well, I was going to enjoy that body. Boring covered BJ, into a few minutes of her on top, then asking what I liked, I said cowgirl so she did, then I turned her around for some reverse. At that point she was tiring so she bent over, and popped her ass out, so I pounded away till I finished. Rinsed off, and she held her hand out. Girl please. I told her I'd give her a propina if I could take a picture. She allowed it as long as there was no face. Gave her 200 pesos and left.

Back to my buddy and our table, and a nice little spinner caught my eye, our eyes met and man did she look familiar. My buddy said she had this asian look to her, and as I started talking to her more, I realized that she reminded me of one of the best providers I met at Soi 6 in pattaya a few months ago. I bought her a drink and she sipped it slowly while proceeding to give me a great lapdance. Shadow came down and gave me a funny look and I just smiled at her and continued to stare at my girls behind. She bent over in front of me and I was turned on even more when I felt how dripping wet she was. I was ready for round 2 THEN I realized. I only brought a portion of my cash with me and left the rest in the hotel safe. AHHH well I bought her another drink and asked how long she'd be here, and she said at least 4. OK, I told her I'd be back, and we left to go get some birria. Went to the hotel room to freshen up and grab cash, then we were back out.

Walked in around 10:00 and it was packed. Roberto was not there, and the only seats we found were on the second floor. I was not complaining as this gave us a good view of the cream show that was going on. Suddenly I heard the crowd cheering and saw some old guys face buried between one of the dancers legs- respect! My only knock with being on the second floor was that most of the talent was downstairs. The waiters would still bring by dancers but none of them were stunners. Ordered a couple tequillas and after getting a good buzz on, I decided to go downstairs and do a lap (with the spinner from before on my mind) Nothing really stood out, but maybe the spinner was on my mind. Then I saw her sitting on a lap of another customer (just my luck). Our eyes met, I let out a subtle wink and she smiled. Went back to my seat and our waiter Herrera kept pointing his laser pointer at every girl in the room asking if we are interested. I told him to get us a table downstairs and about 15 minutes later he showed up and said he had one. The same exact from before. Alright alright alright. Looked around and did not see my girl. Looked around and nothing else really caught my eye. Man some of those butt implants are a little outlandish aren't they? Haha.

My buddy was getting tired, so I said I'd use the restroom then we could leave. As I was walking back who is sitting in my seat but the spinner. She smiles and I say let's go upstairs. Didn't even talk prices, just went. Talked and joked a little bit, man I liked her laugh. Clothes came off, and she seemed a tad timid, I just asked what she liked and she laid back and opened her legs. Alright DATY it is LOL. Went at it and was getting turned on myself. Went in for some DFK and looked at my watch to see it had been about 30 minutes. Then on impulse I just entered her in the heat of the moment. It felt so good and I just went with it working it in many positions. Was getting close to finishing and pulled her around and finished in her mouth. Ahhhhhhhh what a sesh. I'm just withholding her name here guys because I wouldn't want BBFS to be the expectation with her as ymmv.

Got dressed, talked about her family and cost of a visa, then she gave me her number. I looked at my watch and we were in there for over an hour. So much for that timer nonsense. Haha. Just gave her 100 and we went back to the club. I got my friend and left.

[Lew Ashby]

Day 2:

Woke up around 10, and got the complimentary breakfast at Ticuan. My buddy was reluctant to go back to HK seeing how he has a girlfriend and all (sucker haha), but we had 5 hrs to kill, and there is only so much to do there. We went to a couple restaurants and breweries that he wanted to hit, but the next thing you know it is 13:30 and we do not have to be to Caliente Bullring until 16:00. Hong Kong we go!

We get in and there is my boy Roberto! He seats us in the booth we were at yesterday and brings us our drinks. Any tequilla fans notice that Don Julio 70 is priced the same as Don Julio blanco?? Does not make sense, and I was weary, but the night before I watched them pour it haha. Man it goes down smooth. Anyway, did not see anything that caught my eye for the first 30 minutes, then I saw her. And apologies here guys, I did not even bother asking her name. She said she does not work nights because there are too many people, and she has the best set of natural DDs that I have ever laid eyes on. I watched her turn a dude down and asked Roberto to bring her over. She sat down, and I bought her a drink. I pulled her lingerie loose and knew this was going to be fun. I asked if I could take a picture of her tits and she was adamant against it! Otherwise I would've shared those guys. They were so amazing. She said 100, I said 80, and we agreed on 90. Went to the room, and although I do not like CBJs, at least she was making it interesting deepthroating and staring me in the eye. She kept it up like a champ, and then mounted me. Man I still see the vision of those perky tits bouncing in my face. So perfect. Put her legs up for the true POV experience then spun her around for reverse to watch her from behind. Leaned her back so I could grab them from behind, then went into mish, doggie, and finished facing her in the scissor position watching one of her titties shake with the other in my hand. Tipped her 10 bucks. I think I will have to go back during the day to see her and then have my spinner stay the night with me next time!

Haha. Well after living in Socal for 5 years, it is a pretty big fail on my part for waiting so long to make the trip, but truthfully, I think I just know myself and my degenerate ways! I am also 2 months removed from a 3 year relationship so there's that to, haha. At least when I get back from Thailand in June and am getting those "withdrawals", I know a place that can cure the itch!

Cheers.

[CaptJackSparro]

Just stuck it in eh? No fear of her getting pissed at you and reporting you / getting police involved? She has no way of knowing if you basically just ended her career by giving her something.

Huge gamble. Not sure if I believe this part of your story. But if true, you've got some huevos and perhaps a screw or two loose. I like your style.


Day 2:

BBFS

Cheers.

[CaptJackSparro]

Anyone else gotten BBFS at HK during a ST session? I know guys wife these girls up and get things outside the club, but Lews report makes me wonder how many of you guys are playing "just the tip."

There's been a few times where I had to slow them down but I always conclude that they are teatering the line to tease and get me really horny.

[Captain Solo]

Quite a few HK's girls will bare back customers, especially if extra money is offered.

Some guys do extremely filthy and risky things with the girls. As far as I know their dicks are still securely attached to their groins hehe.

Try it, you may like it.

[ScottHall]

Brothers,

There is a disturbance in the force. As of late, I am hearing about more and more guys getting quoted and paying $120 for half hour sessions.

What in the actual are some of you guys thinking?

Do you know what kind of people make $120 per hour? Doctors. Per hour. Some of you are paying these girls in half an hour what a doctor makes in an hour..Good luck. The place is packed night in and night out. Sometimes I run out of oxygen to breathe and almost pass out. American guys are thirsty savages that worship pussy. We'll pay anything, do anything, follow girls around on social media that we have no chance with. The standard will be $150-200 in a year or two. This is a freight train that can't be stopped.

[Ctytek]

"Their dicks are still securely attached to their groins" - if that's your only health criteria, go ahead and BBFS the bar putas. Hope you understand that if they are willing to do it with you. They have probably done it with dozens and hundreds of other guys. And there are many nasty untreatable deceases you can (and probably will) get, if you continue engaging in this. Hepatitis, gonorrhoea, chlamydia to name just a few.

I enjoy most of your posts, but this one is you giving out extremely bad advise.


Quite a few HK's girls will bare back customers, especially if extra money is offered.

Some guys do extremely filthy and risky things with the girls. As far as I know their dicks are still securely attached to their groins hehe.

Try it, you may like it.

[ScottHall]

By Mexico's laws, the bars are not allowed to involve in prostitution. The girls are employed to sell fichas in the bar. The sex is allegedly independent of the bar, between the girls and their clients. Supposedly the bars take no kickbacks from the girls for sex, but who knows what really happens?

The robe guys at HK's doors write down names and times the girls leave and return with johns. When they exceed the half hour, they send meseros to knock on the room to remind the girls to return to the bar. Interesting to know HK girls have to pay fine for extended sessions. $100 for 3 hours or 6 sessions equates to about $15 or 300 pesos fine for each half hour extension.

HK has a very complex system of incentives and penalties for its workers. Every worker gets a share of profits or punishment from the system.

The girls' earn commission for the fichas on a sliding scale. The more they sell the higher commission rates they would get. They have competition for who sells the most fichas every month with announcements and awards posted on the third floor. The little girl America said she was one of the hottest ficha sellers a few years back, making up to 60% commission on fichas. Meseros are always aggressively pushing fichas, so they presumably get a percentage on top of the tips from the johns..That's interesting. I was always under the impression that the girls can just do whatever the heck they want to a certain extent. It looks like it at times. How do you explain the girls that are nowhere to be seen for hours at a time or even all night? I figure the top girls have regulars on top of regulars wining and dining them in their rooms. Sometimes I'll see a girl pop in the club one short time and that's it, disappear.

[Captain Solo]

With the recent shutdown of Backpage's and Craigslist's dating and escort services sites, a lot more Americans will lose access to sex and will get far more horny and desperate. Their hunger for sex will drive them to good mongering locations like Tijuana. They will pay premiums for what they cannot get at home and drive up prices.

However for the past 20 years prices in Adelita and Chicago have been steady at around $60; street girls have been steady around $20. The bros can hold down inflation by refusing to pay ridiculous prices in HK and spend their money on their competition.

[CaptJackSparro]

Shhh. For that price ill just stay in the states and have a girl come to me. Only reason Mexico is worth the time and effort to go down there is that its cheaper. They'd screw themselves over with that price range. Or the competition would flourish with cheaper rates.


Good luck. The place is packed night in and night out. Sometimes I run out of oxygen to breathe and almost pass out. American guys are thirsty savages that worship pussy. We'll pay anything, do anything, follow girls around on social media that we have no chance with. The standard will be $150-200 in a year or two. This is a freight train that can't be stopped.

[Nounce]

Do you know what kind of people make $120 per hour?Plenty of people in California, especially in Silicon Valley, can make more that in an hour so it is not surprising.

[Long Don Silva]

And there are many nasty untreatable deceases you can (and probably will) get, if you continue engaging in this. Hepatitis, gonorrhoea, chlamydia to name just a few. Those are all treatable. But your point is understood. HIV, some strains of HPV, and herpes are the ones you got to watch out for.

[Hyperblue]

I know this issue has been covered many times already here, and many of you already know everything about it, but let's say, just for some folks who plan for their first visit to Tijuana.

I'm not that veteran in Tijuana monger scene, but since I happened to live in SD, I've been to Tijuana bars normally once a week in past 4 to 5 years (at some occasions, I visited more than 7 times a week).

I know that each of you guys have your own situation, but here are some of my observations / opinions regarding to the cost of the arriba.

People think $80 for HK girls, and $60 for the girls in other bars on average, but what I want to tell you is that you'd better consider that price as the upper bound not on average. Personally, somehow, I've never paid more than $80 for HK girls in my more than 200 sessions. (I'm an ugly old Asian guy in mid 40's). I know many many HK spinners with excellent performance, but I've never seen any one of them refuse to go arriba at $80.

So you can consider that if you failed to negotiate down to $80 or less, I would say you'd better move on to other girl. Hey, you are not going to marry her.

The lowest I paid at HK was $50 (then 1000 pesos) and the highest was $80 USD. The lowest in other bars (Tropicanas, Chavelas, Chicago) was 600 pesos, and highest was $70 USD. The best performer I've ever met happened to be that 600 peso girl who is my current novia. Yeah, the performance is not always proportional to the price.

I know there are some girls that are adamant to their $100 line, but normally it is either they are really very new to the bar, or they don't like you (or simply a stupid girl).

Some of the girls I know even asked $150 in their first week at HK, and went arriba with me at $80 a few weeks later. When the girls from other bar or other town arrive at HK for the first time, some of their friends show off like "Hey at HK, you can earn $100 or more for one arriba! Life is good!

Some other cases are that some girls from resort cities such as Puerto Penasco or Monterrey, where average cost of the arriba is high, but they don't want to be spotted by their friends or family members so they work at Tijuana, but they still try to charge similar amount to their HK customers, but normally you can see those girls either realize the norm of Tijuana soon or get back to their home town.

Regardless of the exchange rate, you'd better negotiate with pesos. Sometimes, I exchange only the amount for arriba. At first, I was worried that it may look awkward if I pay everything else in dollars and use pesos for arriba, but don't worry about it, I've never seen anyone said anything about it. And as told in other posts, most of them are not that mathematically strict to the exchange rate. I experienced many cases like this.

"How much?

"$100".

"So 1000 pesos, OK?

"Sii, vamonos" with no hesitation.

Yeah, seriously. , If a girl opens up calculator app in her cell for exchange rate when you ask in pesos, it is normally a bad sign for her performance in arriba. (that's my criterion. Haha.).

Normally I try to negotiate (even lightly) at the end of the first ficha drink, and if I see any odd ball things like too high quote or all business attitude, I just let them go.

I even see one of my amiga in HK who always arriba with me at 1000 pesos, quoted $100 to my friend who visited me from my home country even at my presence. They are very good at sensing the smell of the tourists.

For the street girls, almost 100% of the time, you can apply 10:1 exchange rate. If they ask $40, that means 400 pesos is enough.

One good thing about these girls is that they don't normally change their performance depending on the final negotiated price, so don't be shy on any negotiations.

You don't have to feel sorry about the living expense of these girls with their babies. The living cost in Mexico is incredibly cheap. One month rent of a luxury 2 bed room apartment in a very good location (near zona rio) in Tijuana is 600 USD.

In some big cities in Sonora, a one month rent of a two bed room apartment in a very good neighborhood is 3000 pesos. 10000 pesos is more than enough for a girl and a baby for their one month living, if they don't party all the time.

Well. Just my thoughts for your reference. Happy mongering!

[Captain Solo]

I agree HK chicas seem to have quite a bit of liberty on the job.

They seem to go to work on whatever days and whatever hours they want. Also after sessions, most girls would immediately come down to the club to hook new guys, but a few would disappear for an hour or two for no reason. I always suspected they went back to their rooms to do some drugs.

So it's likely that the managers or meseros would just try to sell more fichas by annoying guys taking extended time.

[Aviator400]

The talk about putas making $120/ HR compared to other professions is misleading.

They might make $120 a working hour, but they are not getting $120/ HR for every hour on shift every shift.

Comparing a salaried monger who makes $120/ HR (with benefits) to a puta's commission income does not wash.

And how many salaried mongers do their work in expensive, skimpy garments and costumes paid for out of their own pockets?

That would be an ugly scene around my office.

[HorseTrader]

Plenty of people in California, especially in Silicon Valley, can make more that in an hour so it is not surprising.$120 per hour translates to about $250,000 per year for a salaried person. That is a lot of money, even for Silicon Valley.

The real point being made is there are many people that have enough money that paying a girl $60 or $120 really doesn't make much difference to them. For example, take the older man who makes good money but can only get to Tijuana a couple times per year and can only get an errection once per day, he is likely to be happy to pay $120 if he likes that girl better than the $60 girl down the street. We can talk all we want about keeping prices down, those people are not going to care about saving $60.

On the other hand, I believe the vast majority of customers in Zona Norte are not that well financially positioned and they get to Tijuana more frequently. Those are the customers who determine the price standard. A few big spenders are not going to set the prices.

[Dcrist0527]

Sounds like me! Minus the good money. LOL.

I visit Tijuana 4-6 times a year. It's about a 10 hours trip one way, including flights, border, etc. I make average money, nothing spectacular. Above national average but not sure where I land by California standards. And yes, the temptation is there to make sure the trip is worth it. It's already $1000 to make the trip so why squabble over $40. However, for two very good reasons, I do negotiate to $80 tops at HK. First, I don't want to damage the market for locals. But, I also selfishly look at it as in I'm already shelling out $1 K in travel, $1500 play money. What can I get at home for $2500? My point is $40 is a drop in the bucket but even the visitors have to do their part to keep prices in check.


For example, take the older man who makes good money but can only get to Tijuana a couple times per year and can only get an errection once per day, he is likely to be happy to pay $120 if he likes that girl better than the $60 girl down the street.

[Flyer47]

Those are all treatable. But your point is understood. HIV, some strains of HPV, and herpes are the ones you got to watch out for.Growing up, I was taught that if you touch a woman your dick will fall off. Then I learned that back in the 70's people banged bareback indiscriminately because it was after the invention of the pill and before HIV. From what I understand most STDs are minor affairs and easily curable, treatable or at least manageable. It seems like HIV is the thing that really changed the game and got people wrapping it up, or at least got people thinking about wrapping it up.

[CaptJackSparro]

Many of the hot girls make several hundred per day. Some close to 1 K on the weekend. My only point is that a lot of the girls make more money than their customers. Giving them an extra $50 is overkill.

Some guys think paying more is helping lift the girl out of poverty, when in reality that girl makes more money than him and has a better quality of life than the guy. Its like a fan giving Tom Brady a tip after the Patriots win a game: unnecessary because he's already making enough.

Also, let's be honest. Many guys are trying to buy feelings from these girls. Its a suckers game.

All I can do is post here and talk shit about the guys who do because my cheap heart doesn't want to lose my main rationalization for going down to Mexico (that its cheaper than the US). Ughhhh.


The talk about putas making $120/ HR compared to other professions is misleading.

They might make $120 a working hour, but they are not getting $120/ HR for every hour on shift every shift.

Comparing a salaried monger who makes $120/ HR (with benefits) to a puta's commission income does not wash.

And how many salaried mongers do their work in expensive, skimpy garments and costumes paid for out of their own pockets?

That would be an ugly scene around my office.

[Ctytek]

The only reason some chicas ask for $100/$120 is that some dude are willing to pay it. Simple supply and demand economics. Walk away if quoited anything above $80 - this is the only way to control the price inflation.

[CaptJackSparro]

Thanks for the tips Hyperblue. +1 on the performance not changing if you haggle down price.

I've had girls tell me that guys who negotiate are "smart".

Most Americans are scared to negotiate. In almost every country outside of the West you are a sucker if you don't.

[CaptJackSparro]

I assume some people here troll every blue moon to get a laugh at newbies silly enough to follow their advice.

Hopefully people don't get the idea in their head that you can or should go in these girls bareback. And definitely don't just slip it in lest you want to find yourself in Mexican jail because it turns out the girl didn't really like you as much as you thought.


"Their dicks are still securely attached to their groins" - if that's your only health criteria, go ahead and BBFS the bar putas. Hope you understand that if they are willing to do it with you. They have probably done it with dozens and hundreds of other guys. And there are many nasty untreatable deceases you can (and probably will) get, if you continue engaging in this. Hepatitis, gonorrhoea, chlamydia to name just a few.

I enjoy most of your posts, but this one is you giving out extremely bad advise.

[Captain Solo]

I think I know Hyperblue's 18 YO sexy spinner novia.

She looks pretty and acts nice, sweet, happy.

A very good catch!

[Captain Solo]

This is info I got first hand from people I know:

A few HK girls have babies bare backing guys of different ethnicity. Don't know if she ever got infected.

A bro has always been bare backing for decades in China and all over Asia. He claims he never got any disease.

A bro DFKs and bare backs selectively in Mexico, Asia, US, Europe. He reported never got anything.

A bro enjoys beso negro in Mexico and Central America. He got all sorts of hepatitis but did not reported any venereal diseases.

A bro got Gonorrhea or Chlamydia from an escort in Tijuana. He said he was using condom?

A bro got Gonorrhea by sliding his dick bare back on the camel toe, not even penetrating.

A bro got HPV after 1 month going to HK screwing bar girls with condoms, one got Herpes with condoms.

Condoms can prevent bacterial infection but HPV and herpes virus can transmit by skin contacts, even with condoms.

[Aviator400]

I agree with the idea that no one should overpay.

I do negotiate, but I don't quibble over a few dollars.

However, the talk about putas making $120/ HR compared to other professions is misleading.

They might make $120 a working/ arriba hour, but they are not getting $120/ HR for every hour on shift every shift.

Comparing a salaried monger who makes half that (with benefits) to a puta's commission income as a reason to nickle-and-dime does not wash.

And how many salaried mongers do their work in expensive, skimpy garments and costumes paid for out of their own pockets?

That would be an ugly scene around my office.

If you don't want to pay $80/ pop for an HK girl, go for a street girl.

Problem solved.


Many of the hot girls make several hundred per day. Some close to 1 K on the weekend. My only point is that a lot of the girls make more money than their customers. Giving them an extra $50 is overkill.

Some guys think paying more is helping lift the girl out of poverty, when in reality that girl makes more money than him and has a better quality of life than the guy. Its like a fan giving Tom Brady a tip after the Patriots win a game: unnecessary because he's already making enough.

Also, let's be honest. Many guys are trying to buy feelings from these girls. Its a suckers game.

All I can do is post here and talk shit about the guys who do because my cheap heart doesn't want to lose my main rationalization for going down to Mexico (that its cheaper than the US). Ughhhh.

[BlueGhxst]

This is info I got first hand from people I know:

A few HK girls have babies bare backing guys of different ethnicity. Don't know if she ever got infected.

A bro has always been bare backing for decades in China and all over Asia. He claims he never got any disease.

A bro DFKs and bare backs selectively in Mexico, Asia, US, Europe. He reported never got anything.

A bro enjoys beso negro in Mexico and Central America. He got all sorts of hepatitis but did not reported any venereal diseases.

A bro got Gonorrhea or Chlamydia from an escort in Tijuana. He said he was using condom?

A bro got Gonorrhea by sliding his dick bare back on the camel toe, not even penetrating.

A bro got HPV after 1 month going to HK screwing bar girls with condoms, one got Herpes with condoms.

Condoms can prevent bacterial infection but HPV and herpes virus can transmit by skin contacts, even with condoms.I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.

[CaptJackSparro]

HPV? Most standard STD tests for guys don't test for HPV.

He most likely requested testing for "everything" out of paranoia and it showed up, but he may have had HPV for years.

Most sexually active people will contract HPV. It can go away on its own.

Herpes is like chicken pox: a friggin skin condition. Drug companies made herpes a big deal to profit from the treatment of it.

Not saying I want to volunteer to get any of the above, but both really aren't big deals. You should assume every working girl has both HPV and herpes since they are so common that they aren't tested for in standard STD panels.

If herpes testing were mandatory next to none of these girls would be able to renew their health cards because most of them have or will contract herpes. Most people who have herpes never have symptoms.

The thing about herpes is that if you don't have an obvious outbreak, blood testing may be detecting oral herpes. I just remember reading herpes is hard to diagnose unless you have an obvious outbreak.

Just keep in mind that HPV and herpes are not tested for on most standard STD panels because doctors agree they are so common and cause more stress than help.

Any seasoned player and any educated working girl accepts both STDs as an eventuality. You can't boink 1000 people and expect to not be exposed to / contract these.

Just don't get in the habit of BBFS so that you can avoid HIV and you're good. Your career will be long. BBBJ is very low risk and you can't catch anything life threatening. Worth risk for most guys. Everything else is easily treatable or common enough that most sexually active people have them (HPV and herpes). I'd say the word part of STDs is having to inform any partners. Most are literally no different in treatment than a cold: quick round of antibiotics and your good. They're just so stigmatized.

Avoid sores and bleeding lips. Have fun.


This is info I got first hand from people I know:

A few HK girls have babies bare backing guys of different ethnicity. Don't know if she ever got infected.

A bro has always been bare backing for decades in China and all over Asia. He claims he never got any disease.

A bro DFKs and bare backs selectively in Mexico, Asia, US, Europe. He reported never got anything.

A bro enjoys beso negro in Mexico and Central America. He got all sorts of hepatitis but did not reported any venereal diseases..

[Dcrist0527]

Suffice to say, we all play a game that has an element of danger. It is unnerving to think about. Just my opinion, but I think in any human interaction, there is a danger. I don't think every possibility is known or understood in the medical community. I think we all have to learn our comfort level and make educated decisions.

I've been very fortunate. I've never had a single issue, but I also play it relatively safe. I personally would never go bareback with these girls. Not judging those that do but again, that's my semi-educated decision. Does it cut down on the pleasure? You bet it does. But when I first started in the hobby years ago, it was difficult. I became absolutely paranoid for weeks after my first encounter. At that point, I made myself read through reputable articles / journals, decide where my comfort level is and go with it. In those immediate weeks after my first encounter, it was a mentally draining experience. Not one I care to relive. Even though nothing was wrong, not a real symptom, nothing. I believed I did and it was terrifying.


I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.

[Travv]

Actually skin protection methods have been discussed in previous posts here. RTFF re coconut oil. Two practical suggestions- 1) buy rubber underwear that is available for about $20 on Ebay or 2) cover your groin skin area with coconut oil (some use it mixed with silver salve for more antiseptic power) to prevent infections. If you use method 2, you will need non-latex condoms. If the girl is a squirter and you are wearing your boxers, good luck walking around with wet soggy underwear for the rest of your visit to Tijuana.


I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.

[CaptJackSparro]

You'll get laughs but I'm sure the smarter girls will understand and appreciate it.

I'm almost certain that lube and a girls natural fluids can find their way down the condom and get onto your groin.

Dunno about you but paranoid sex kills my boner.

Some girls do this thing where they put their hand between your groin and hers as a barrier to prevent you from getting to close. Its obviously because they aren't playing with their kitty. These same girls will also tighten their legs to prevent groin to groin contact if you're trying to get deep in them.

Experienced guys know what I'm talking about. Total boner killer. Can't nut with only half of my dick permitted to be in. The girls who don't allow groin contact tend to be hustlers and don't give a damn if you are satisfied.

Now you know why that idle hand is spreading those lips for you, papi.


I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.

[Nounce]

$120 per hour translates to about $250,000 per year for a salaried person. That is a lot of money, even for Silicon Valley.I was thinking about free lancers. 120/ HR rate is from years ago. I work with many and their rates are actually much higher. Even the ones I use from South America are not cheap. The median salary at Facebook is the highest in SV at about 240 K.

I think the chicas that make the most money are the ones asking the going rate. The ones ask for higher rate have fewer takers.

[TomJackin]

I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.Here's how I roll; no worries whatsoever!

[StRobert]

I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.I use a pocket hand sanitizer (ethyl alcohol 70%) from a supermarket or Walgreens (kills 99.99% of germs). After hanky panky I'm cleaning with hand sanitizer skin in this area, penis, balls. I've never had a problem. BTW I always use a good quality condom like "Crown". Safety first.

[TjBrazil]

I find the best way to have sex with a condom and avoid STD s is to just use missionary and doggy style. Avoid woman on top because you are exposed totally and the condom isn't secure. If you stick with the 2 positions I said and keep the lights on you can see the condom and how far you can enter while being totally protected within reason. Women on top is the worst because your whole pelvis region is touching the girl and your penis 100 percent in and the condom starts to roll up. Very dangerous.

[Captain Solo]

There are lots of valid info in your post.

However, this bro who got HPV was a young guy just started mongering. He was screwing HK girls exclusively every weekend. Within 1 month he discover a "bump" on his pubic area. He went to the Free Aids Clinics in Hollywood for a test. The doctor confirmed he picked up HPV.

The bro was devastated that he would have to advise all future sex partners of his infection.

Yep. Most working girls are likely to carry HPV and Herpes, and It's pretty easy for mongers to get them.

Re. HPV? Most standard STD tests for guys don't test for HPV.

He most likely requested testing for "everything" out of paranoia and it showed up, but he may have had HPV for years.

Most sexually active people will contract HPV. It can go away on its own.

Herpes is like chicken pox: a friggin skin condition. Drug companies made herpes a big deal to profit from the treatment of it.

Not saying I want to volunteer to get any of the above, but both really aren't big deals. You should assume every working girl has both HPV and herpes since they are so common that they aren't tested for in standard STD panels.

Just keep in mind that HPV and herpes are not tested for on most standard STD panels because doctors agree they are so common and cause more stress than help.

Any seasoned player and any educated working girl accepts both STDs as an eventuality. You can't boink 1000 people and expect to not be exposed to / contract these.

[Captain Solo]

Cow girl is very risky as the girl's anus is slamming on you balls and her drippy-wet pussy is slamming on the base of your dick. Potentially her pussy fluid could be splattering down on your crotch.

Lucky most putas are fairly dry and if you keep a full Bush, there should be natural protection against your groin getting drenched hehe.

While riskier cow girl is one of my favorite positions. The girl can do all the work while you can lay back, watching her pretty face and her pussy slamming against your crotch, both hands squeezing her spongy boobs.

[SallySally]

Can you use someone else's Hong Kong VIP card?

Also if you and a friend want to stay in the double rooms, can you use just one Hong Kong VIP card to book the room or do both of you need a Hong Kong VIP card?

[Captain Solo]

If the front desk guy does not know your face, you should be able to use some else's card. They never check IDs. My ID is being held by the Jedi anyway hehe.

You only need 1 VIP card to reserve Cascada's double rooms. I had to baby sit a bro with sleep abnia all night. He could not believe 2 guys only paid $11 for the room. Another night Cascada confirmed a double room but ran out. I gave the old manager a hard time. He gave us 2 single rooms next door for $11.

[Travv]

Once or twice they requested to see a driver's license at the desk when I used a VIP card. FYI.


If the front desk guy does not know your face, you should be able to use some else's card. They never check IDs. My ID is being held by the Jedi anyway hehe.

You only need 1 VIP card to reserve Cascada's double rooms. I had to baby sit a bro with sleep abnia all night. He could not believe 2 guys only paid $11 for the room. Another night Cascada confirmed a double room but ran out. I gave the old manager a hard time. He gave us 2 single rooms next door for $11.

[Captain Solo]

It may work if you slather your groin with sanitizers before the session, not after. The chicas would probably appreciate it for their own protection.

Applying skin lotions all over your body before sessions should also afford additional layers of protection. I always wash my hands with soap before, then 3 times after playing with their wet pussies. Some girls got drippy wet and driven wild with my middle finger deep inside massaging their G spots hehe. So far have not got any problems.

I use the thinnest Kimono. Works well. Will look into that Crown.

[CaptJackSparro]

Tried to negotiate in pesos for arriba this padt weekend in HK. 2 girls weren't having it and knew the exchange rate for 80 dollars in pesos.

Guys that get lower prices via pesos. Are you having to "interview" many chicks to get one that doesn't know the exchange rate or the rate she want in pesos? Starting to think negotiating in pesos for arriba might be more trouble than its worth because what I save I have to spend in ficha prices to interview them. Only other way is to walk around his asking if the girls I like will accept my pesos offer but I like to interview them over a drink so that may lead to bad sessions and wasted money.

[Captain Solo]

I am guessing HK and Cascada know me for hanging out frequently, so they never ask my ID.

Even the Pepe's parking guy was calling me "Capitano" one night. Had to tip him an unused lap dance voucher hehe.

I may have to buy a new Mexican driver License under Hans Solo some days. Hehe.

[CaptJackSparro]

Be safe guys. I know a guy who got an STD (curable) from an HK chick, so having a health card doesn't mean jack because these girls pick up stuff in between their monthly check ups.

Many things about HK are just marketing to get newbies in the door. HK girls are no safer than any other bar and most street girls (not including druggies. Stay away from druggies).

All girls working in that area are supposed to have health cards. This doesn't stop them from picking up STDs between renewals. Many girls are wild and pick up STDs but get them treated before they can renew their card to continue working. Antibiotics are easy to get in Tijuana.

[Deleted by Admin] HK gets so packed on the weekend with guys willing to blow hundreds on their wildest fantasies that you can be certain BBFS is negotiated or guys just slip it in like a guy in an earlier post mentioned.

HKs popularity is actually a bad thing for your sexual health. LOL.

[StRobert]

It may work if you slather your groin with sanitizers before the session, not after. The chicas would probably appreciate it for their own protection.

Applying skin lotions all over your body before sessions should also afford additional layers of protection. I always wash my hands with soap before, then 3 times after playing with their wet pussies. Some girls got drippy wet and driven wild with my middle finger deep inside massaging their G spots hehe. So far have not got any problems.

I use the thinnest Kimono. Works well. Will look into that Crown.A good store is "Condom Depot" link here https://www.condomdepot.com/ fast and discreet shipping. They have a big choice of condoms and good prices.

[Long Don Silva]

Tried to negotiate in pesos for arriba this padt weekend in HK. 2 girls weren't having it and knew the exchange rate for 80 dollars in pesos.

Guys that get lower prices via pesos. Are you having to "interview" many chicks to get one that doesn't know the exchange rate or the rate she want in pesos? Starting to think negotiating in pesos for arriba might be more trouble than its worth because what I save I have to spend in ficha prices to interview them. Only other way is to walk around his asking if the girls I like will accept my pesos offer but I like to interview them over a drink so that may lead to bad sessions and wasted money.Same here. Every HK girl with whom I've negotiated was aware of and accurately approximated the current exchange rate.

[Captain Solo]

That web site has a lot of good info plus users' reviews.

There is a new Durex Performax Intense condom with climax delay lubricant, ribbed and dotted texture, rated 5 /5 by users:

https://www.condomdepot.com/durex-performax-intense/

With this product, Tijuana chicas will soon be paying mongers for the exquisite sexual pleasures. Hehe.

[Dante702]

I'm new to China and HK. Only mongered in Colombia + Manila.

I'm thinking of doing a cruise, departing from HK. I think it would be fun to have 2 girls with me. I imagine going through an agency to find girls for this would be pretty expensive, and finding freelancers or girls through DIA would be the way to go?

I imagine China and HK rates are quite different. Please advise.

[Dcrist0527]

LOL I don't mind the "ribbed for her pleasure" part. But I need a climax inducing lubricant. I'm only partly joking. SGs are almost a no go for me in the time allotted. I have to negotiate extra time, which I don't mind. But the last thing I need is anything to delay it! I'm almost jealous of minute men. Almost. LOL.


That web site has a lot of good info plus users' reviews.

There is a new Durex Performax Intense condom with climax delay lubricant, ribbed and dotted texture, rated 5 /5 by users:

https://www.condomdepot.com/durex-performax-intense/

With this product, Tijuana chicas will soon be paying mongers for the exquisite sexual pleasures. Hehe.

[Baxter Slade]

I'm new to China and HK. Only mongered in Colombia + Manila.

I'm thinking of doing a cruise, departing from HK. I think it would be fun to have 2 girls with me. I imagine going through an agency to find girls for this would be pretty expensive, and finding freelancers or girls through DIA would be the way to go?

I imagine China and HK rates are quite different. Please advise.A Cruise leaving HK sounds like fun. But where would we go Adelita or Chicago?

[Captain Solo]

Some nights after a couple sessions I would take 1/8 of a generic Sildenafil 100 MG pill. I would get a rock hard erection and pump the girls hard for half hour, get totally exhausted but could not come. A few times the girls graciously let me take off the condom and bare back them. Then I could climax on schedule.

If bareback is not an option, consider squirting lubricant inside the condom. Guys have said sliding the dick inside lubricated condoms brings sensations very close to bare backing, which helps them climax. I should try that with multiple sessions some night.

[Captain Solo]

You can board the Hong Kong mega cruise ship at Coahuila dock. The ship is loaded with hundreds pretty, horny hookers, strip clubs and booze.

You can visit the exotic islands of Tropical, Las Chevelas, Adelitas, Chicago, Valentina ect each with hundreds sexy girls waiting for you on the piers and on the streets. The girls are hot and horny, their rates are very low.

[Dcrist0527]

Might want to buy an inside cabin though. The views and odors from the river leave something to be desired.


You can board the Hong Kong mega cruise ship at Coahuila dock. The ship is loaded with hundreds pretty, horny hookers, strip clubs and booze.

You can visit the exotic islands of Tropical, Las Chevelas, Adelitas, Chicago, Valentina ect each with hundreds sexy girls waiting for you on the piers and on the streets. The girls are hot and horny, their rates are very low.

[ClamSlammer]

HK girls are no safer than any other bar and most street girls (not including druggies. Stay away from druggies).Not true. Generally speaking, HK girls are far safer than girls from other bars. HK management rigorously enforces the most strict policies in the zona. HK chicas who to don't conform to HK's standards of health cards are regularly seen working at other bars until they are up to standard and cleared by HK management to work. I'm not saying that they can't get infected with something between examinations, because obviously they can, I'm just saying that HK's policies are far stricter than other bars, for example Playboy, which doesn't even enforce minimum age limits much less health card laws.

[Captain Solo]

I was in Hong Kong Sunday last week. The place was packed as usual with lots of hot girls and sexy strippers.

A young bro was showing his nice, clean, pretty wife, brother and his dad, yes, his dad or father-in-law, around in HK. They were in plain shorts and T shirts, nothing fancy or with brand names. They seemed an average family, from a small town Mid West USA. Looked like they really enjoyed and even appreciated the place.

Later, they were eating tacos from the HK stand. The old man was struggling eating the messy taco with his hands. I have the same problem so I always eat tacos with a spoon. The old man looked at me, got up and got a spoon from the stand. They seemed to really enjoy the club and food scenes in Tijuana.

HK is becoming a must-see Mexican cultural site for visitors from all over the world. Who may even designate HK a world's heritage site hehe.

[Captain Solo]

Yep. Cruisers will be treated to a long, slow cruise down the perfumed Tijuana river with full views of naked strippers in Zona Norte's bars. Hehe.

[Dswerve]

Not true. Generally speaking, HK girls are far safer than girls from other bars. HK management rigorously enforces the most strict policies in the zona. HK chicas who to don't conform to HK's standards of health cards are regularly seen working at other bars until they are up to standard and cleared by HK management to work. I'm not saying that they can't get infected with something between examinations, because obviously they can, I'm just saying that HK's policies are far stricter than other bars, for example Playboy, which doesn't even enforce minimum age limits much less health card laws.How do you know playboy does not enforce the health cards law?

[CaptJackSparro]

Eh. What I meant is the big clubs. Tropical and Chabels have same owner as HK. So I'm sure they enforce health cards the same. Adelitas enforces cards. Chicago enforces cards. Who the he'll goes to playboy or the&G anyway?

If you see a girl working at Adelitas that used to work at HK 99% of the time they got into some kind of trouble that doesn't have anything to do with their health card.

Its delusional to think there's big differences in std safety between the big clubs. All of these girls will do something strange for a little bit of change and higher volume means being exposed to more germs.

The girls may get pulled by HK when they catch something until they can renew their health card, but it doesn't mean they can't give you a nice little gift until then.

But tell yourself whatever you have to to sleep at night and be worry free.


Not true. Generally speaking, HK girls are far safer than girls from other bars. HK management rigorously enforces the most strict policies in the zona. HK chicas who to don't conform to HK's standards of health cards are regularly seen working at other bars until they are up to standard and cleared by HK management to work. I'm not saying that they can't get infected with something between examinations, because obviously they can, I'm just saying that HK's policies are far stricter than other bars, for example Playboy, which doesn't even enforce minimum age limits much less health card laws.

[OlderMan4U]

I was in Hong Kong Sunday last week. The place was packed as usual with lots of hot girls and sexy strippers.

A young bro was showing his nice, clean, pretty wife, brother and his dad, yes, his dad or father-in-law, around in HK. They were in plain shorts and T shirts, nothing fancy or with brand names. They seemed an average family, from a small town Mid West USA. Looked like they really enjoyed and even appreciated the place.

Later, they were eating tacos from the HK stand. The old man was struggling eating the messy taco with his hands. I have the same problem so I always eat tacos with a spoon. The old man looked at me, got up and got a spoon from the stand. They seemed to really enjoy the club and food scenes in Tijuana.

HK is becoming a must-see Mexican cultural site for visitors from all over the world. Who may even designate HK a world's heritage site hehe.When I was there with a bro not long ago, on a Saturday late afternoon, I saw a group of middle aged Asians, both male and female, come walking in and sit along the back area (behind the main stage towards the back). They reminded me of some of the gogo bars in Thailand, where large groups of older Asian tourists come walking in and sit to watch.

[CaptJackSparro]

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[StRobert]

Some nights after a couple sessions I would take 1/8 of a generic Sildenafil 100 MG pill. I would get a rock hard erection and pump the girls hard for half hour, get totally exhausted but could not come. A few times the girls graciously let me take off the condom and bare back them. Then I could climax on schedule.

If bareback is not an option, consider squirting lubricant inside the condom. Guys have said sliding the dick inside lubricated condoms brings sensations very close to bare backing, which helps them climax. I should try that with multiple sessions some night.There may be a lot of problems with climax because fatigue, alcohol, etc. Even when in a room is too hot. A good idea in this case to end sex with BJ. But BJ, when the girl sucks you non-stop to the last drop. If you have a thin, sensitive condom, the climax sensation is much stronger than normal sex and is so strong that you can scream. Not all girls are good at BJ (some need 8 hours of BJ training course) so I always come back to those I know are good at Adelita or HK.

[GoodSense3]

Anybody have any advice on getting an Adelitas chick in your room in HK. Have to avoid the red robe right and act like a street girl to go to another hotel? I know it's possible cause I saw my friend get a Chicago club chick to go back to his room in HK Cascadas in March and she had to walk block farther and she had on regular clothes like any random chick LOL.

[TomJackin]

Anybody have any advice on getting an Adelitas chick in your room in HK. If you meet the chica on her off time; then no problem. If she is working, she has to use the Adelita hotel.

[OlderMan4U]

I have a question about the Cascadas rooms, does each room come with a remote for the TV?

I ask because when I stayed there years ago I don't recall there being a remote anywhere. Do you have to ask the staff for a remote?

[Captain Solo]

Looks like many bros are heading to Tijuana memorial weekend.

Let's network and have a party in HK Saturday, Sunday and Monday night May 26, 27, 28.

Would be a lot of fun.

[Baxter Slade]

I have a question about the Cascadas rooms, does each room come with a remote for the TV?

I ask because when I stayed there years ago I don't recall there being a remote anywhere. Do you have to ask the staff for a remote?In the older rooms I would get the remote. And pay an extra deposit for it. On my last visits I was in the newer rooms where you could control the tv from a button located on the bottom of the tv. I do believe in the older rooms you did not really need the remote due to controls being on the tv. On some of the tv's they were hard to locate, but they were there.

Another option is there are apps you can load on your phone that will make your phone into a remote.

[Captain Solo]

All TVs have control buttons on the set. You can control the TVs by those buttons. If wanted, remote controls are avail at reception with $10 deposit.

I would rather spend time playing with the buttons on the chicas hehe.

[Captain Solo]

Chinese tour guides used to take groups of 20/30 men and women walking through the club, gawking at everyone like monkeys having sex in the zoo. I always thought that was rude, and suggested to HK management to ban the practice. I took pictures of these tour groups and send them to forums in Asia so their children and grand children can see them hanging out in La Zona Roja hehe. Lucky I have not seen any more intrusive tours.

I was in the Indian neighborhood in Singapore on a street where tall transsexuals hang out with their pretty faces and nice dresses. Tour groups of dozens tourists were carried in pedicabs slowly through the street, gawking, pointing, talking, laughing at the trannies, making them shy and sensitive, turning away to hide their faces.

These tour groups are incredibly rude and intrusive everywhere they go.

[Porker]

Tried to negotiate in pesos for arriba this padt weekend in HK. 2 girls weren't having it and knew the exchange rate for 80 dollars in pesos.

Guys that get lower prices via pesos. Are you having to "interview" many chicks to get one that doesn't know the exchange rate or the rate she want in pesos? Starting to think negotiating in pesos for arriba might be more trouble than its worth because what I save I have to spend in ficha prices to interview them. Only other way is to walk around his asking if the girls I like will accept my pesos offer but I like to interview them over a drink so that may lead to bad sessions and wasted money.If your Spanish communication is worse than her peso conversion math, you are at the classc "Mexican standoff".

[OlderMan4U]

In the older rooms I would get the remote. And pay an extra deposit for it. On my last visits I was in the newer rooms where you could control the tv from a button located on the bottom of the tv. I do believe in the older rooms you did not really need the remote due to controls being on the tv. On some of the tv's they were hard to locate, but they were there.

Another option is there are apps you can load on your phone that will make your phone into a remote.Cool thanks.

[Captain Solo]

I would give the chicas propinas into their boobs, squeeze them, smile and say sweetly: "Un mil con propinas, si?

Most girls would understand the offer is for standard fuckie, suckie. Without saying a word, they would quickly take your hand and lead you to the hotel.

Very few gave me hassles over that offer. A few new girls and the hottest girls from Monterrey are used to their $100 sessions and will insist on it.

[Zhagolo52]

You can't, unless you buy her out for the night or she comes hang out after the shift. Still the chica has to be super careful she doesn't get caught after her shift or they will get fired.


Anybody have any advice on getting an Adelitas chick in your room in HK. Have to avoid the red robe right and act like a street girl to go to another hotel? I know it's possible cause I saw my friend get a Chicago club chick to go back to his room in HK Cascadas in March and she had to walk block farther and she had on regular clothes like any random chick LOL.

[Dcrist0527]

I'm in. I'll be in HK likely two if not all three nights. Think it's a good idea. I have alot of plans outside HK but I won't mind if the right HK chica came along and needed my services. LOL.


Looks like many bros are heading to Tijuana memorial weekend.

Let's network and have a party in HK Saturday, Sunday and Monday night May 26, 27, 28.

Would be a lot of fun.

[Captain Solo]

Adelita bar has very strict working rules. But bars don't own these girls like slaves. After their shifts, the girls should be able to do whatever they want, sleep in whatever hotels, wherever they want. Hong Kong has more relaxed working rules for the girls.

Hotel Coahuila's owner acts just like an asshole with everyone. I heard from an Adelita girl that they can go to other hotels, but have to pay for the Coahuila room first. Street girls who work near the back door have the same rules.

Guys have complained that Coahuila cleaning crew tend to knock on doors early, sometime before 15 minutes, then have the balls to demand propinas. I got pissed off, telling them to go fuck themselves with their brooms.

[Captain Solo]

Monday and Tuesday night May 28 and 29, starting at 8 PM, I will be sitting at a table on the balcony directly in front of the huge sports TV, where I can eat, drink, watch sports and gawk the hot strippers on stage and the meat pole hehe.

The bros can split 2 rib-eye steaks or seafood dinners with all the trimmings for $10 with Azul's coupon. Tell the meseros to do the steaks Mexican raw and it may come out American medium.

Let's have dinner with a few drinks and trade war stories.

[Captain Solo]

We will drink to the courage, bravery and sacrifices of our fallen comrades and their families.

Would be great to talk real war stories with active or retired military, especially military pilots who flew fighter bombers, recon, FAC or helios, between hand-to-hand combat sessions with the young recruits of the new Mexican All Female Army hehe.

[GoodSense3]

Whats best way to get a HK or Chicago chica to come down from 80 or 1500 pesos to 50-60 or 1 k pesos or less? Does time-frame matter being that if its not primetime at night you have better percentage chance of pulling off 1k deal? lol

[Captain Solo]

You can get the 1 K deals if you can think of ways to make your dick half as short and half as big.

Ever heard of sharp butcher knives or box cutters?

[TomJackin]

We will drink to the courage, bravery and sacrifices of our fallen comrades and their families.

Would be great to talk real war stories with active or retired military, especially military pilots who flew fighter bombers, recon, FAC or helios, between hand-to-hand combat sessions with the young recruits of the new Mexican All Female Army hehe.You have no idea who or what to respect. I doubt if you even have a fucking clue what Memorial Day means to many of us!

[MongerHunger]

Whats best way to get a HK or Chicago chica to come down from 80 or 1500 pesos to 50-60 or 1 k pesos or less? Does time-frame matter being that if its not primetime at night you have better percentage chance of pulling off 1k deal? lolI think that the chica has to like you and feel comfortable around you, a genuine feeling to go for 1 K. As for myself, when I get a good vibe from the chica because of the things that I am doing and the things that I am saying, I usually get what I want at my price. Everything is not guaranteed sometimes but don't be discouraged from a turn down. You have to be confident in yourself and don't be afraid to walk away from what you think is a bad deal. Timing can be a factor too. When it's slow some chicas won't turn down a chance to make some money when it's slow.

[MongerHunger]

We will drink to the courage, bravery and sacrifices of our fallen comrades and their families.

Would be great to talk real war stories with active or retired military, especially military pilots who flew fighter bombers, recon, FAC or helios, between hand-to-hand combat sessions with the young recruits of the new Mexican All Female Army hehe.What do Mexicans think about US Memorial Day holiday? What do they think about the US Servicemen and women that sacrificed their lives for the United States of America? Some of them that even died fighting against Mexico. That has to be an interesting conversation for a gringo and a Mexican National to have over drinks.

[CaptJackSparro]

I'd say this is a waste of time. I asked this same question after girls rejecting my mil pesos offers over drinks (just trolled for fun) and the guys replied "say un mill con propinas". Which basically means you're going to wind up paying her around $70 anyway. And if you're doing HK right, you're interviewing the girl over a drink before arriba. Plus room costs $15. You're Nickel and diming in the most expensive club in Zona norte. Not worth it. Basically every other club $60 is more doable.

I won't even say you get what you pay for with HK girls. Most of them suck. I've been with over 40 HK girls and have only had a few that really blow my socks off, but I digress. Haggling or coming across too cheap will get you worse service in a high end place. The more you spend, the more they want to make you fall in love to keep you coming back, so keep that in mind. Many guys on here report HK girls ability to bankrupt a guy. Heh. HK makes the most money out of all the clubs because it is a high pressure sales machine. Someone is always trying to sell you something in HK. Other clubs are more relaxed.

Girls work at HK to try to make as much money as they can in the most popular club in Tijuana. Can't hate. I know its not a charity.

Girls are encouraged not to accept less than 80. They're coached and go through a mini orientation before starting work.

If you really get off on the idea of getting below market rate at HK just go around and ask a bunch of girls if they will accept your offer. If one does she's probably not that good looking or will give you bad service. Both HK and the girls know customers talk, so they don't want to devalue their product. You might think something is better than nothing but that's not smart business in a high end club.

Anyways. I think you get the jist of what I'm saying. If you want to play with model chicks you've got to pay market or model prices. You're not going to get a "dime" for $60 in HK first encounter with her.

I've tried bargain basement hunting at HK and found it to be a waste of time. Take that $60 and go try 3 street girls that suit your tastes. Out of the 3 SG you get at least one will be great. Much better odds of good experiences, way cheaper and more fun than 1 bargain HK girl who is likely desperate for a reason.


Whats best way to get a HK or Chicago chica to come down from 80 or 1500 pesos to 50-60 or 1 k pesos or less? Does time-frame matter being that if its not primetime at night you have better percentage chance of pulling off 1k deal? lol

[JohnCandy]

I will be there on the 29th CS. Look forward to meeting. Sharing drinks and stories.

JC.


Monday and Tuesday night May 28 and 29, starting at 8 PM, I will be sitting at a table on the balcony directly in front of the huge sports TV, where I can eat, drink, watch sports and gawk the hot strippers on stage and the meat pole hehe.

The bros can split 2 rib-eye steaks or seafood dinners with all the trimmings for $10 with Azul's coupon. Tell the meseros to do the steaks Mexican raw and it may come out American medium.

Let's have dinner with a few drinks and trade war stories.

[GoodSense3]

Pulled off 1 k pesos deal last night. We did our thing and she went hard like she really like the kid haha. She was a 7. 5 or 8. She was the 4th or 5th chick I offered. All others were not willing to go negotiate to help kid save something LOL. But this chick hesitated at first and wanted 1. 5 k but then few minutes later after just chillin w her upstairs said ok lets go for 1 k LOL. Saved the kid 500 extra how sweet of a lady was she haha.

[OlderMan4U]

Anyone ever stayed at hotel Pueblo amigo?

I'm thinking of staying there this weekend and chilling around tourist areas at day, go to Hong Kong a night. I don't find HK rooms very comfortable. I wouldn't want to walk back and forth though as it seems farther away.

[Captain Solo]

War talks are strictly among Americanos.

With Mexicans we only talk girls, mostly just kidding around, nothing serious.

Did have a conversation with a fellow captain on the drive down re. The American-Mexican war which sprung the Nino Heroes name. It was not pretty.

[CaptJackSparro]

You say you were chilling with her for a bit. I'm guessing you bought her a drink? Why not just go to Adelitas where you can get an 7-8 if you really want to get $60 standard? I don't get enjoyment walking around like a coupon clipper trying to save money in HK. But to each their own.

If she was the 5th girl she wasn't your first choice. Which means she probably wasn't nearly as good looking. I'm not hating, just trying to steer the bros clear of wasting time based on my experiences in HK.

You don't go into Neiman Marcus asking where the clearance section is. HK is the Neiman of Zona Norte. But good luck guys. Hah.


Pulled off 1 k pesos deal last night. We did our thing and she went hard like she really like the kid haha. She was a 7. 5 or 8. She was the 4th or 5th chick I offered. All others were not willing to go negotiate to help kid save something LOL. But this chick hesitated at first and wanted 1. 5 k but then few minutes later after just chillin w her upstairs said ok lets go for 1 k LOL. Saved the kid 500 extra how sweet of a lady was she haha.

[Captain Solo]

There are lots of truths in Cpt. Jack's post.

But even if you pay full rates to HK's top girls, you can't expect to get a GFE immediately. You will only be getting the standard service. It takes a lot of ficha money, help and emergency "loans" over a long time before the girls would allow DFKs, bareback sex, anal ect, with may be some expressions of love during sex.

It costs a lot less money to befriend street girls. I have seen how old timers become their close friends. After a couple sessions and chitchats on the street, giving them propinas, presents for their children during holidays etc. The girls are likely to give you sex with genuine expressions of love and affection, caressing of body and genital, kissing, sucking, biting of breast, crotch, body parts, long, gentle sex with close embrace etc, subtle expressions which can come only from love and trust, difficult to buy with money.

[ScatManDoo]

You say you were chilling with her for a bit. I'm guessing you bought her a drink? Why not just go to Adelitas where you can get an 7-8 if you really want to get $60 standard? I don't get enjoyment walking around like a coupon clipper trying to save money in HK. But to each their own.You are right, to each his own.

If I were to get quoted $100 for 30 minutes from five straight HK chicas.

I would receive great pleasure in turning down all five overpriced chicas.

It would not make me feel bad.

Yes, to each his own.

And unlike most penny pinchers, I don't mind if someone else agrees to overpay these women.

Many have numerous mouths to feed, and I think it's just fine that someone else is willing to pay more (when I'm not).

As far as overpaying. Better you than me.

[CaptJackSparro]

Agreed. But I generally think its best to avoid trying to befriend any working girl simply because most of the time you're paying for the illusion of connection. If time spent is free obv. Go for it but repeat transactions can create unnecessary drama with girls thinking you owe them something.

The whole beauty of mongering is that its the perfect solution for men who value their freedom and want to bang as many hot women as possible without commitment. Variety is the spice of life.

Ever heard the phrase "looking for love in all the wrong places?" For nearly all of the girls at HK this is simply a job. The. Moment you pay you're a customer, not a real friend. Many of them are married or have boyfriends. They will say they are single because its good for business and will get lonely guys to chase them with repeat business.

Smarter guys avoid viewing interactions with chicas as anything more than a transaction and fun night. They know they are walking ATMs to 99% of the girls. To the other 1% you are a walking green card. You should view them as walking fleshlights. Fun to use but not something you want to keep.

If you want to want to play capt. Save a. Then your best bet if you aren't rich is a street girl. Seeing her 4 times (4×20 bucks) vs HK girl (1 x $80), the girl is more likely to see affection towards you as an investment. Still a fools errand IMO, but some guys get off on playing the white knight. They'll never learn.

Have fun boys!


There are lots of truths in Cpt. Jack's post.

But even if you pay full rates to HK's top girls, you can't expect to get a GFE immediately. You will only be getting the standard service. It takes a lot of ficha money, help and emergency "loans" over a long time before the girls would allow DFKs, bareback sex, anal ect, with may be some expressions of love during sex.

It costs a lot less money to befriend street girls. I have seen how old timers become their close friends. After a couple sessions and chitchats on the street, giving them propinas, presents for their children during holidays etc. The girls are likely to give you sex with genuine expressions of love and affection, caressing of body and genital, kissing, sucking, biting of breast, crotch, body parts, long, gentle sex with close embrace etc, subtle expressions which can come only from love and trust, difficult to buy with money.

[CaptJackSparro]

I don't pay 100 out of principle. I can care less about their sob story or how many mouths they have to feed. That's not my problem. The discussion was about turning down market rate offers ($80) to try to get wholesale ($60).

You should care about guys overpaying because it eventually will inflate the market rate to a new standard.

100 is not a common quote unless you dress like a rich guy or are an older gentleman. Their initial quote is what they think you'd be willing to pay.

Just sharing info. Like blackjack, play the game however you want since its your money. Even if you bust the whole table.


You are right, to each his own.

If I were to get quoted $100 for 30 minutes from five straight HK chicas.

I would receive great pleasure in turning down all five overpriced chicas.

It would not make me feel bad.

Yes, to each his own.

And unlike most penny pinchers, I don't mind if someone else agrees to overpay these women.

Many have numerous mouths to feed, and I think it's just fine that someone else is willing to pay more (when I'm not).

As far as overpaying. Better you than me.

[OlderMan4U]

The topic of falling in love with prostitutes, has probably been discussed ever since women first started selling sex for money (5 or 3 B. C.).

I know it is always easy to tell others to never fall in love with a working girl or never find a girlfriend in a *****house, but that's ignoring the reasons why some of us guys seek prostitutes in the first place.

I certainly do not profess to speak for all guys on this forum, but I think it is safe to say that the reason why many of us guys seek prostitution in foreign countries like Mexico or Thailand is because we are missing that companionship and physical intimacy back home, that a local escort or massage parlor cannot fulfill.

So when you go to a Hong Kong club, and you pay a girl to have sex upstairs, certainly every guy is aware that this is a business transaction. But if the sex is particularly meaningful with deep kisses, intimacy, passion, it is very easy to forget that this is a paid transaction and very easy to let one's emotions and feelings overcome reality.

So yes, many of us are aware on a superficial basis that prostitution is ultimately a business transaction, whether you go to a Tijuana strip club or a a bar in Thailand. But that doesn't mean we as human beings cannot develop real feelings for some of these girls despite knowing it's a business.

[GoodSense3]

I have had dozens of chicks ask for a drink and have rejected them all in HK and Chitown. Buying chicks drinks is not my style LOL even though they try to pressure you I don't let the pressure faze me LOL. This chick said she didn't want drink actually LOL. Ill rather share the drink I already have. But I be watching dudes even my own wingmen buying the drink for Chica left and right out the gate succumbing to the pressure and I be smh LOL. Adelitas is an option always but the rooms are not my style. Would have to get chick to do off market deal to come to another place for the most part.


You say you were chilling with her for a bit. I'm guessing you bought her a drink? Why not just go to Adelitas where you can get an 7-8 if you really want to get $60 standard? I don't get enjoyment walking around like a coupon clipper trying to save money in HK. But to each their own.

If she was the 5th girl she wasn't your first choice. Which means she probably wasn't nearly as good looking. I'm not hating, just trying to steer the bros clear of wasting time based on my experiences in HK.

You don't go into Neiman Marcus asking where the clearance section is. HK is the Neiman of Zona Norte. But good luck guys. Hah.

[CaptJackSparro]

Right on. The ones who don't like to drink and are straight up about just wanting to fuck are usually cool.


I have had dozens of chicks ask for a drink and have rejected them all in HK and Chitown. Buying chicks drinks is not my style LOL even though they try to pressure you I don't let the pressure faze me LOL. This chick said she didn't want drink actually LOL. Ill rather share the drink I already have. But I be watching dudes even my own wingmen buying the drink for Chica left and right out the gate succumbing to the pressure and I be smh LOL. Adelitas is an option always but the rooms are not my style. Would have to get chick to do off market deal to come to another place for the most part.

[Lakeside32]

I made a reservation for this holiday weekend at Cascadas and I'm not going, but I lost the email confirmation. I used my real name for the rez, so I'm wondering, do they follow up if your a no-show?

[Captain Solo]

Tuesday night ran into a bro in Cascada who said he goes to HK only once a week, but stay 3 nights Mon, Tues and Wednesday hehe. He said he got free drink, free lap dances, free food from HK, just like from a combination of the Social Sec admin and Red Cross. He printed out a thick stack of HK coupons and gave me the Azul's free appetizer one. Thanks Richard.

By midnight in HK, my wingman and I decided to order Azul's'steak dinners with the half-price coupon. We were sitting at a table next to the steps between the 2 stages, which afforded clear view of all activities in both sides of the club. My wingman thought it was the best seats in the house hehe.

Called a mesero over. He had a new menu with about 8 snacks on his tray, but no steaks. He had a hard time understanding what we wanted, so he called over Armando, who speaks English. Armando said we could have either filet mignons or rib eyes. Ordered 2 rib eyes rare, cut up, with all the trimmings for $11.50. Armando came back with the steaks cut up nicely but still way over cooked, with baked potato, veggies, toasts, salsa, but no salt and pepper. It's still a good deal with lots of food, so we just gobbled it up while watching a very raunchy lesbo show with 2 hot girl on the main stage. Life is good!

The meseros no longer show steaks on their tray, but all items on Azul's large menu are half price with the coupon. To get exactly what they want, the bros may want to take their butts off HK's seats, walk over to Azul and place orders with the manager, who speak good English. Come back to HK to watch the show, then after 15 minutes, send a mesero to Azul to pick up the order. A $1 propina for each person would make him happy.

[Captain Solo]

Besides the large 5-star hotels and resorts, hotels and motels in Mexico would take reservations from anyone, anytime with out CC or deposit, even for packed events like Carnival or Baja 500.

Lots of people make reservations then no show. In a busy hotel like Cascada, I don't know how they manage their reservations. I suppose after 4 hours Cascada would release the no-show rooms, which could be midnight.

7 PM Tuesday night in Cascada reception, the bro ahead of me had no reservation and was told all rooms in Cascada and Rizzo de Orro were booked up solid, nothing was available. The bro was urged to walk down the street to hotel Coahuila. I emailed the request at 5 PM just before I left and got a double room confirmed at discount rate, so Cascada does honor its confirmation!

They will never follow up, show or no show, and won't charge any penalties. So don't worry about it.

[Ctytek]

Or. People can venture out of the Zona, and trying things other than cum-infested Cascadas rooms and Azul bar food. There is much good food to be had in Tijuana, and plenty of places to stay outside of the same tired strip of Coahuilla.

[Dcrist0527]

Very well said, and a fact that is lost on many. There are, no doubt, some men that are hardened that treat the women as a business transaction, or worse. I don't agree with that approach, but to be fair, many chicas do the same. I do feel for those guys because I think that type of enjoyment is not entirely natural.

As for Tijuana, I will say that personally, I enjoy the passion that Latinas will bring. I live in an area that is limited in the number of Latinas. And those that are here are not as fiery or passionate as those I've met in Tijuana. That passion can be a double-edge sword! LOL But I am glad you mentioned this. I think we all have different reasons or needs. I think any advice that warns of the pitfalls of falling for a chica should be well received. But I also think people need to realize that their experience, their needs, their preferences don't fit all.


The topic of falling in love with prostitutes, has probably been discussed ever since women first started selling sex for money (5 or 3 B. C.).

I know it is always easy to tell others to never fall in love with a working girl or never find a girlfriend in a *****house, but that's ignoring the reasons why some of us guys seek prostitutes in the first place.

I certainly do not profess to speak for all guys on this forum, but I think it is safe to say that the reason why many of us guys seek prostitution in foreign countries like Mexico or Thailand is because we are missing that companionship and physical intimacy back home, that a local escort or massage parlor cannot fulfill.

So when you go to a Hong Kong club, and you pay a girl to have sex upstairs, certainly every guy is aware that this is a business transaction..

[CaptJackSparro]

Some of you guys crack me up. Nothing about HK or prostitution is natural. A guy who is a total 1 can walk up to a total 10 girl and have sex with her in exchange for manmade pieces of paper.

HK is a great place! For many guys it is a last resort, but it will be an expensive lesson to learn about illusion vs fantasy.


Very well said, and a fact that is lost on many. There are, no doubt, some men that are hardened that treat the women as a business transaction, or worse. I don't agree with that approach, but to be fair, many chicas do the same. I do feel for those guys because I think that type of enjoyment is not entirely natural.

As for Tijuana, I will say that personally, I enjoy the passion that Latinas will bring. I live in an area that is limited in the number of Latinas. And those that are here are not as fiery or passionate as those I've met in Tijuana. That passion can be a double-edge sword! LOL But I am glad you mentioned this. I think we all have different reasons or needs. I think any advice that warns of the pitfalls of falling for a chica should be well received. But I also think people need to realize that their experience, their needs, their preferences don't fit all.

[Travv]

I do not think you understand what the girls are legally selling. My understanding is that in Mexico, the girls in clubs like Hong Kong are "drink saleswomen" and get a commission per drink. Essentially they work for the club to get patrons to visit the club and buy drinks. The girls have a quota of drinks they are supposed to sell, just like car or real estate salesmen are supposed to sell so many widgets per month. The reason the club stays open and has parties and special events is because the drink sales and VIP cards pay for the club expenses. If you want the Hong Kong club and other clubs to go out of business, continue what you are doing and not buy their "product" which is drinks. The clubs are prohibited by Mexican law from profiting from "pimping" or taking money from the girls. Offhand, I usually buy a chica at least two drinks plus my own drink so that the clubs stay open and are available for watching sports, dancers, and partying. If the clubs find out that you are a "deadbeat" and are not going to buy their product or tip the staff, they can bar you from entering their club. At which point, you can then party for free at AARP meetings and church socials and meet some sexy grandmas like Hillary! .


I have had dozens of chicks ask for a drink and have rejected them all in HK and Chitown. Buying chicks drinks is not my style LOL even though they try to pressure you I don't let the pressure faze me LOL. This chick said she didn't want drink actually LOL. Ill rather share the drink I already have. But I be watching dudes even my own wingmen buying the drink for Chica left and right out the gate succumbing to the pressure and I be smh LOL. Adelitas is an option always but the rooms are not my style. Would have to get chick to do off market deal to come to another place for the most part.

[Ctytek]

Fichas isn's the only "product" HK sells, not by far. They make money on regularly priced drinks. They make money on food. They make money on their cut off stage performances. They make money on room fees, they make money on entree fees (including money chicas pay to simply work there). And on and on.

I seriously doubt HK will "go out business" because a few dudes don't buy chicas drinks. Everyone can decide for themselves how and where they want to spend they money.


I do not think you understand what the girls are legally selling. My understanding is that in Mexico, the girls in clubs like Hong Kong are "drink saleswomen" and get a commission per drink. Essentially they work for the club to get patrons to visit the club and buy drinks. The girls have a quota of drinks they are supposed to sell, just like car or real estate salesmen are supposed to sell so many widgets per month. The reason the club stays open and has parties and special events is because the drink sales and VIP cards pay for the club expenses. If you want the Hong Kong club and other clubs to go out of business, continue what you are doing and not buy their "product" which is drinks. The clubs are prohibited by Mexican law from profiting from "pimping" or taking money from the girls. Offhand, I usually buy a chica at least two drinks plus my own drink so that the clubs stay open and are available for watching sports, dancers, and partying. If the clubs find out that you are a "deadbeat" and are not going to buy their product or tip the staff, they can bar you from entering their club. At which point, you can then party for free at AARP meetings and church socials and meet some sexy grandmas like Hillary!.

[SaguaroJack]

1st off those "pieces of paper" are labor. One thing that is too poorly understood is that money = labor. It's why it has value. Money is just labor notes. We're exchanging our labor for their sexual labor.

2nd off sex is the first thing intelligent beings exchange once the concept of trading is understood.

Conclusion: prostitution natural af.


Some of you guys crack me up. Nothing about HK or prostitution is natural. A guy who is a total 1 can walk up to a total 10 girl and have sex with her in exchange for manmade pieces of paper.

HK is a great place! For many guys it is a last resort, but it will be an expensive lesson to learn about illusion vs fantasy.

[OlderMan4U]

Very well said, and a fact that is lost on many. There are, no doubt, some men that are hardened that treat the women as a business transaction, or worse. I don't agree with that approach, but to be fair, many chicas do the same. I do feel for those guys because I think that type of enjoyment is not entirely natural.

As for Tijuana, I will say that personally, I enjoy the passion that Latinas will bring. I live in an area that is limited in the number of Latinas. And those that are here are not as fiery or passionate as those I've met in Tijuana. That passion can be a double-edge sword! LOL But I am glad you mentioned this. I think we all have different reasons or needs. I think any advice that warns of the pitfalls of falling for a chica should be well received. But I also think people need to realize that their experience, their needs, their preferences don't fit all.Exactly. I always take with a grain of salt some of the more opinionated people on mongering forums with their screw them and forget them mentality. My take is that for some of these guys, they have been burned one too many times and it just negatively colors their outlook on prostitution and life in general, this sort of bitterness where they feel a need to lecture others on how they should conduct their lives. We get it that prostitution is selling a fantasy for guys. What's the point then of ridiculing and mocking other guys for wanting to believe in that fantasy?


I do not think you understand what the girls are legally selling. My understanding is that in Mexico, the girls in clubs like Hong Kong are "drink saleswomen" and get a commission per drink. Essentially they work for the club to get patrons to visit the club and buy drinks. The girls have a quota of drinks they are supposed to sell, just like car or real estate salesmen are supposed to sell so many widgets per month. The reason the club stays open and has parties and special events is because the drink sales and VIP cards pay for the club expenses. If you want the Hong Kong club and other clubs to go out of business, continue what you are doing and not buy their "product" which is drinks. The clubs are prohibited by Mexican law from profiting from "pimping" or taking money from the girls. Offhand, I usually buy a chica at least two drinks plus my own drink so that the clubs stay open and are available for watching sports, dancers, and partying. If the clubs find out that you are a "deadbeat" and are not going to buy their product or tip the staff, they can bar you from entering their club. At which point, you can then party for free at AARP meetings and church socials and meet some sexy grandmas like Hillary!.Well said. Not wanting to buy drinks as a point of pride for some guys makes no sense to me at all. In fact I see this same argument about lady drinks happening in other mongering spots like Thailand.

I'm not sure why people don't understand that these women have drink quotas for a reason, it's to help the bar make money. Isn't that common sense? How else is the bar going to make money if they don't get a cut of the ladies' sex fee? It's thanks to the bar that we customers have a safe, open environment where we can openly fondle the ladies on stage and take them arriba for some sexo. I too usually buy a girl a few drinks before taking her upstairs.

[Dcrist0527]

Passion does not have to equal marriage. Passion is something natural. It's rare, but it's there.

What cracks me up are the guys who believe their experiences or their approaches are the best, or only approach. I accept that some guys look for basically a dumpster to empty in. Some of us set the bar higher. To each their own.


Some of you guys crack me up. Nothing about HK or prostitution is natural. A guy who is a total 1 can walk up to a total 10 girl and have sex with her in exchange for manmade pieces of paper.

HK is a great place! For many guys it is a last resort, but it will be an expensive lesson to learn about illusion vs fantasy.

[Lefeu]

1st off those "pieces of paper" are labor. One thing that is too poorly understood is that money = labor. It's why it has value. Money is just labor notes. We're exchanging our labor for their sexual labor.

2nd off sex is the first thing intelligent beings exchange once the concept of trading is understood.

Conclusion: prostitution natural af.Absolutely Agree!

[CaptJackSparro]

Dude,

You opened my eyes. I see HK in a new light. A 1 having sex with a 10 is completely natural. Transforming sex into a commodity isn't the result of human economic systems. You're right.

I won't take your fantasy world away from you dude. Enjoy HK.


1st off those "pieces of paper" are labor. One thing that is too poorly understood is that money = labor. It's why it has value. Money is just labor notes. We're exchanging our labor for their sexual labor.

2nd off sex is the first thing intelligent beings exchange once the concept of trading is understood.

Conclusion: prostitution natural af.

[CaptJackSparro]

I agree! I saw dolphins trading fish for sex in Club Miami last weekend. Guess intelligent animals engage in prostitution too!


Absolutely Agree!

[CaptJackSparro]

Never said anything about what mentality is best. However, I will maintain that it is unhealthy to seek l-o-v-e with professional sexworkers. Most therapists would agree.

You will have some of the best sex of your life at HK that will probably be better than civilian women you've been deeply in love with. Doesn't change the fact that they are acting. If you want more from these girls than sex most guys will be in for an expensive lesson.

I'm just sharing information.


Passion does not have to equal marriage. Passion is something natural. It's rare, but it's there.

What cracks me up are the guys who believe their experiences or their approaches are the best, or only approach. I accept that some guys look for basically a dumpster to empty in. Some of us set the bar higher. To each their own.

[Captain Solo]

Agreed with Dcrist0527 100%.

Passion is when 2 people get turned on sexually for each other. You can not command or pay to get it. You don't have to limit your passion with just your married partners, or be morally obligated to someone just because you had passion for her in bed. It's actually easier to be passionate with someone in casual relationships without all the obligations, baggage, hooks and guilts associated with marriage. Each of us have to find our own personal ways to turn on our sex partners red hot passionate in bed.

Almost all married European men and women are known to engage in on going extramarital affairs all their lives for those kinky and exquisite sexual pleasures outside of marriage. A Swedish guys, I met in Asia, was tell a bunch of guys: "In my town, every one fucks each other!" But besides our Commander in Chief, America has become more and more sexually puritanical over the years with prohibitive legislation at all levels of government.

If you know how to deal with them, quite a few Tijuana bar and street girls would fuck guys with hot passion, enjoying sex a great deal. Sometimes the girls would squeal, shriek, moan so loud in Cascada's rooms, the reception guys would flinch hehe. But at the end they would coolly negotiate payments, trying to squeeze more money out of guys like nothing just happened between them. Sometimes I do feel the chicas used guys for both sex and money.

It's the good life for the chicas, having hot sex, sweet love and cool money with many guys every night. Ugly women are insanely jealous and harshly condemn working girls.

[Captain Solo]

Words on the streets indicate girls in Asia are the best at engaging sex partners, talking lustfully, acting nice, sweet, sexy, horny in bed. Near and during climax:

Girls in China would caress their partners, shrieking softly while tightening their embraces with their arms and legs.

Girls in the Phil would moan and talk dirty, their bodies stiffen hard like a board during climax.

Girls in Vietnam are known to moan and wail out loud, calling names of unknown guys, professing their love and expressing deep appreciation for the exquisite pleasures down in their pussies.

Girls in Muslim countries, Indonesia, Malaysia, part of Thailand, tend to be very meek and quiet during sex, like nothing was going on between their legs.

Island girls in the South Pacific are known to have sex in their outhouses, sometimes get overly excited and fell down into the pits.

Tijuana girls could make a lot more money, attracting many more horny guys from all over the world by engaging and giving them "genuine" expressions of love and lust, as practiced regularly by our First Lady-in-waiting.

Lessons are free for the hottest girls.

[Dcrist0527]

Nor did I say anything about l-o-v-e. 100% agree, searching HK or other similar bars for your wife is not a game with the odds in your favor. I believe (& hope) 99% of guys know that. I value your advice, just not the delivery.

My only point is: to each his own. We are all in this hobby from different pasts and different goals. There is just a danger when you apply any perspective to all.


Never said anything about what mentality is best. However, I will maintain that it is unhealthy to seek l-o-v-e with professional sexworkers. Most therapists would agree.

You will have some of the best sex of your life at HK that will probably be better than civilian women you've been deeply in love with. Doesn't change the fact that they are acting. If you want more from these girls than sex most guys will be in for an expensive lesson.

I'm just sharing information.

[OlderMan4U]

Be interested to see of any reports from this Memorial Day weekend at Hong Kong.

I originally planned to go yesterday right after work since we get to go home early, but as look would have it I had stomach issues at work and wanted to play it safe so postponed the trip. I hope to go tomorrow or maybe even Monday.

[Captain Solo]

I just missed HK's Stripper of the Year last Wednesday. Damn.

HK gave away a white Ford Mustang GT.

Any bro was there? How was the party?

[SaguaroJack]

What fantasy? I'm simply educating and shinning light on your naturalistic fallacy. Even if it's not natural (which it is, dolphins don't trade) it doesn't make it bad in any way.

Transferring labor notes doesn't make it impossible for these women to enjoy sex. But I'm not a total monster which some may be.


Dude,

You opened my eyes. I see HK in a new light. A 1 having sex with a 10 is completely natural. Transforming sex into a commodity isn't the result of human economic systems. You're right.

I won't take your fantasy world away from you dude. Enjoy HK.

[JBorn]

Never been on a weekend or Friday night. Shitshow?

Advice? Tips? Are they open 24/7 or close at any point? Best / safest places to eat and not get sick? Sorry for all the newbies but I'm just hoping to get your insights.

Thanks in advance!

[Zhagolo52]

Weekend nights are usually a lot more packed than during the week usually sausage fest compared to week nights. There is more girls but A LOT more guys.


Never been on a weekend or Friday night. Shitshow?

Advice? Tips? Are they open 24/7 or close at any point? Best / safest places to eat and not get sick? Sorry for all the newbies but I'm just hoping to get your insights.

Thanks in advance!

[StRobert]

Never been on a weekend or Friday night. Shitshow?

Advice? Tips? Are they open 24/7 or close at any point? Best / safest places to eat and not get sick? Sorry for all the newbies but I'm just hoping to get your insights.

Thanks in advance!I like Thursday, Friday Saturday is crowded in Hong Kong. Adelita has more space. Food where I have eaten a lot of times and I was not sick: Restaurant "Monte Carlo" right next to Adelita: Ham sandwich and coke (about $ 5). Restaurant "Sonora Grill" opposite Adelita: Three chicken tacos with guacamole and beer (about $ 5). Also opposite Adelita. The OXXO mini market, you can buy chips, drinks, snacks like a Snickers bar, etc. - Some guys like but I do not suggest tacos from the street: be careful because you can be sick.

[Dcrist0527]

Went through HK twice. First time was around noon. Was pretty dead. I did recognize some faces but none that I cared to repeat with. SG scene was almost non-existent. Happy Sunday!

Went back about 5. Much busier. Great vibe. The right ratio of guys to girls. Not sure why, but there seemed to be many more 9's and 10's this evening. The cream show was a bit more adventurous than I've ever seen it. Not sure if he was lucky or unlucky. He paid for it with the sadist girl with a belt. But I think he was doing just fine from the other chica. 99% certain he hit payday for about 30 seconds.

The only downer of the evening was this annoying girl. Not sure if anyone knows her. Never saw her before until yesterday. Very loud personality. Walks around wearing a hat and smoking a cigar, saying " teep!" to any guy in earshot. Just didn't fit the normal chica profile. I'd give her a dollar to go home!

But very impressed with the looks tonight!

[AsapRocky]

So I am thinking about using the Hong Kong Free border pick up and drop off that they are advertising?

Does anyone have experiences using this? I am new to the area so I don't want to get lost, so I would really like to get dropped off at the border, do they drop you off right in front of the line? Or what? Anyone ever use this before?

Thanks.

[Travv]

There is current discussion for some reason on the Crime and Safety in Tijuana section of this blog about Taxis vs HK shuttle vs Uber. Here is what I posted yesterday. " No need to take a taxi back and forth to the border. HK now has a shuttle service for VIP card holders. Just go to the valet station and ask for the shuttle. Once when the shuttle took a long time to arrive, one of the valets took my VIP card and got authorization for HK Club to pay for a taxi for me. Tip the driver when you arrive where you want to go and enjoy the ride!" They ask if you want to go to the new pedwest (aka Chaparral) or the old crossing. I usually get dropped off under the bridge at the new pedwest. If you have a VIP card, this is a no brainer.

My general advice is that if you are going to drink, get a hotel room for the night then leave in the morning when you are sober. Do not drink until you have rented your room unless you like DUI busts!

Last week, I stopped at a buffet for a weekend brunch in a San Diego Hometown Buffet and I overheard a conversation between apparently a judge and another guy, talking about how some dude coming back from Hong Kong Club got busted for DUI. Taking the HK shuttle drunk, then walking to your car and hitting the highway with the California Highway Patrol waiting for you is not a good idea. You are probably better off getting busted in Tijuana than California unless you want your auto insurance to skyrocket. Or even better, sleeping it off in a Tijuana hotel room and avoiding all risk of an accident or a DUI.


So I am thinking about using the Hong Kong Free border pick up and drop off that they are advertising?

Does anyone have experiences using this? I am new to the area so I don't want to get lost, so I would really like to get dropped off at the border, do they drop you off right in front of the line? Or what? Anyone ever use this before?

Thanks.

[Simmer]

I like Thursday, Friday Saturday is crowded in Hong Kong. Adelita has more space. Food where I have eaten a lot of times and I was not sick: Restaurant "Monte Carlo" right next to Adelita: Ham sandwich and coke (about $ 5). Restaurant "Sonora Grill" opposite Adelita: Three chicken tacos with guacamole and beer (about $ 5). Also opposite Adelita. The OXXO mini market, you can buy chips, drinks, snacks like a Snickers bar, etc. - Some guys like but I do not suggest tacos from the street: be careful because you can be sick.So how is Sunday and Monday typically? I'm going on Friday and / or Saturday but wondered whether to bother hanging around for a day or two more.

[Artisttyp]

So how is Sunday and Monday typically? I'm going on Friday and / or Saturday but wondered whether to bother hanging around for a day or two more.Sunday is a very good night to be in HK. The weekend party vibe is still obvious and the crowds have diminished.

[Simon Wagstaff]

Sunday is a very good night to be in HK. The weekend party vibe is still obvious and the crowds have diminished.Sunday afternoon is the best time to visit Tijuana, if you ask me.

[Dcrist0527]

I've spent the better part of the last 3 days in HK. I would agree, Sunday evening was phenomenal. Monday night (Memorial Day) was very solid as well. Heading back tonight to meet with a pair. I'm hoping their arriba is as good as their action at the table.

Tough lesson last night though. Tequila was going down way too easy. LOL Haven't had that much to drink in a long time. Red Gatorade where are you?


Sunday afternoon is the best time to visit Tijuana, if you ask me.

[Captain Solo]

In HK with hot, sexy chicas is way better than wasting time in any strip clubs in old USA with expensive no-touch lap dances with old, rough, lumpy, tattooed, ghetto girls.

[Gropai]

Can I withdraw US dollars in 20's from the ATM at Cascadas?

[Simmer]

Sunday is a very good night to be in HK. The weekend party vibe is still obvious and the crowds have diminished.Thanks.


In HK with hot, sexy chicas is way better than wasting time in any strip clubs in old USA with expensive no-touch lap dances with old, rough, lumpy, tattooed, ghetto girls.FWIW places in the City of Industry (CA, about 1. 5 hours north of Tijuana) allows touching, certainly boobs most of the time, sometimes crotch (depends on the girl). But $20 for one lapdance or $40 for a "special" of 3 half length songs plus a tip and you're probably better off hitting the border for FS.

[TomJackin]

Can I withdraw US dollars in 20's from the ATM at Cascadas?No, only pesos at the hotel.

[StRobert]

I've spent the better part of the last 3 days in HK. I would agree, Sunday evening was phenomenal. Monday night (Memorial Day) was very solid as well. Heading back tonight to meet with a pair. I'm hoping their arriba is as good as their action at the table.

Tough lesson last night though. Tequila was going down way too easy. LOL Haven't had that much to drink in a long time. Red Gatorade where are you?Drink only tequila 100% Agave (must be "100% Agave" written on the bottle). And if possible, the brand tequila "blanco". There is no headache and hangover after drinking. If you drink tequila not 100% Agave you will have a headache and a hangover after drinking.

[Gropai]

No, only pesos at the hotel.Thank you. How much do girls charge for going upstairs in pesos, by the way?

[Electronman]

I used the shuttle in both directions on a weeknight, and without having a VIP card. The doorman at Hong Kong told me the shuttle was free on weekdays. I was the only passenger both ways so I did tip the driver somewhat generously. I also got lucky in that the shuttle was waiting at the exit of the pedestrian crossing when I entered Mexico and it was waiting outside the Hong Kong when I decided to leave.


There is current discussion for some reason on the Crime and Safety in Tijuana section of this blog about Taxis vs HK shuttle vs Uber. Here is what I posted yesterday. " No need to take a taxi back and forth to the border. HK now has a shuttle service for VIP card holders. Just go to the valet station and ask for the shuttle. Once when the shuttle took a long time to arrive, one of the valets took my VIP card and got authorization for HK Club to pay for a taxi for me. Tip the driver when you arrive where you want to go and enjoy the ride!" They ask if you want to go to the new pedwest (aka Chaparral) or the old crossing. I usually get dropped off under the bridge at the new pedwest. If you have a VIP card, this is a no brainer.

My general advice is that if you are going to drink, get a hotel room for the night then leave in the morning when you are sober. Do not drink until you have rented your room unless you like DUI busts!.

[Baxter Slade]

Thank you. How much do girls charge for going upstairs in pesos, by the way?That's a pretty broad question. If you are referring to HK the standard is 80 dollars and if you make your offer in pesos many will pull out there phone calculators and calculate a rate consistent with the rate of the day. Your best bet is to do the same beforehand and skim a little off your offer and the current rate and see how sharp she is and maybe save a little.

On the other hand the best bargain in the world today is dealing in pesos with SG's. Many will want 20 dollars for basic service and usually if you offer 200 pesos they will accept and you have made a great deal.

[Aviator400]

Can I withdraw US dollars in 20's from the ATM at Cascadas?There is an ATM across the street that will output US dollars.

Never used it, so I don't know how safe it is.

And I have noticed a few other ATMs on the street labeled US Dollars.

I prefer to pay in dollars.

I keep a few hundred pesos handy for street vendors.

To me it just isn't worth the hassle.

[Aviator400]

With deference to those who know everything, I thought it worth relaying an experience regarding puta crime and punnishment.

It was a recent Tuesday afternoon and I was in my room repeating with a sweet, little woman. Like most girls, she would rather spend time in a quiet, comfortable room with someone she likes (or can at least tolerate) than be in the grind of HK hoping for her next 30-minute Romeo.

It was about an hour and fifteen when there was a knock at the door. A mesero insisted that I buy some drinks for her to stay, so I ordered his minimum requirement of three drinks. The girl explained to me that if she stays over an hour in room, she is scolded and fined $100. She said she has not been working much and did not have the $100. The mesero returned with the drinks, which she actually tried to pay for ($27). I paid and gave him a $5 tip, which I thought was generous and that he would report that everything was cool.

We were both ready to leave anyway, so nobody drank the drinks. She left and I said I would catch up with her in a few hours after I had a few drinks with an amigo. Two hours later I was back in HK looking for her. No joy, so I thought maybe another monger was taking his turn. Another hour goes by and I send her a message asking if she is in the club. No response.

Two hours later she sends me a reply saying that when she returned to the club she was scolded for spending more than an hour my room and sent home. She was not fined the $100, for which she was thankful. I was a little unhappy, considering it was a Tuesday afternoon with many more putas in the club than mongers. Could not see the point in giving the girl grief. I offered to speak to the management on her behalf, but she said it was not necessary. And I have been in situations where doing so caused small-minded managers to give the staffer more grief instead of less, so I respected her request.

Conclusions: The requirement to purchase a bucket for the girl to stay in the room is not a scam, at least not a scam put forward by the staff or the girls. As far as I am concerned, it is a scam put on by management. Also, I am sure the rules vary girl-to-girl, manager-to-manager, and day-to-day, but more than one girl has told me directly that they have a one-hour limit door-to-door.

Total BS on the part of the HK management, but I tell this story so that my brother mongers understand that a girl can face steep consequences for breaking the "rules. " It is not her fault if she says you must buy a bucket or she must go.

[Captain Solo]

Went to Tijuana Tuesday night with a wingman, hoping to meet a few bros from out of town. Arriving around 7 with sun still out, but both were very hungry due to partial lunches, so we decided to head to Mr. Pampas, Brazilian churrascaria for dinner.

All you can eat grilled meats and seafood dinner with a large salad bar for a weeknight discount of 210 pesos or about $11 a head. We split a very good bottle of Chilean Reserva Cab Sauvig for 300 pesos or about $15. Ate a couple plates of all sorts of tasty cuts from beef, pork, poultry, sausages, but no grilled shrimp or octopus were served. The meats were mostly overcooked and dried out, but a few cuts were very good. Servers were polite and attentive just like HK's meseros hehe. It was a huge fancy meal with wine for less than $18 a head, after which we could hardly walk or talk, hehe. Life is good!

Got back to HK hanging out at bar Kowloon waiting for the bros. Tuesday night the club had about half the density of guys and girls, compared to weekends. Most top-tiered girls were missing, could not find any girls worth taking.

Took the tall, lanky, pretty Atina from Veracruz, with her long sexy legs, to Miami for a lap dance with the free voucher. She looked good like a super model with her tall, shapely, sexy body and pretty smiling face with good English. Her boobs were heavily padded. She said I could squeeze her left boob all I want, but the implant in her right boob was inflaming, and she had to be careful. I had my face in her sexy crotch for a long time, kissing, licking her flat ab and her sexy crotch. I was turned on red hot for her sexiness and her nice, sweet, pleasant personality, but she insisted on $100 to go to hotel. I could not convince her to do "un mil con propina" so just dropped it.

Was sitting next to pretty Elizabeth at the bar. Gave her a couple $1 and groped her crotch. Again she insisted on $100 firm to go to the hotel. We are now royally fucked with the new HK's pussy inflation. Perhaps the chicas were aware of lots of girls who went home to their children after school out, so they jacked up their prices due to low supply.

[Dcrist0527]

Had Don Julio. I've grown to be a fan of reposado. Used to only drink blanco. But I spent some time at Levya taste testing about a year ago. I actually prefer extra anejo but that is hard to find in my neck of the woods.

I usually don't stick to only tequila. But I was lucky. Think I had about 10 over the course of several hours. (That's a lot for me; I'm not a heavy drinker.) Woke up feeling a little off. Walked to oxxo for that red Gatorade and felt perfect before I even got there. Strange but I only slept 4 hours and couldn't go back to sleep. Went back to HK that next morning (report to follow), had a couple beers and was feeling a good buzz pretty quick. LOL.


Drink only tequila 100% Agave (must be "100% Agave" written on the bottle). And if possible, the brand tequila "blanco". There is no headache and hangover after drinking. If you drink tequila not 100% Agave you will have a headache and a hangover after drinking.

[Dcrist0527]

I was just about to write my experience and glad I read yours first. I was hoping to be in HK Tuesday night. But I was in San Diego that evening and didn't get back across the border until midnight with an early morning flight.

So what am I to do? Just went early in the day. Went about 11 AM Tuesday morning, expecting it to be dead. There were a ton of chicas and not a ton of guys. And the quality of chicas was blowing my mind. Higher % of 10's than I've seen. Busier than expected. Spent about $10-$20 for my cheap feels. Participated in a cream show. No, I did not get up on stage. But played a bit. Had my eye on this blonde. Looked like a 10 from a distance. An older gentleman was occupying her time and I was certain this would be another "didn't pull the trigger quick enough" failure. 15 minutes later, she's sitting alone at a table. Alcides de Sinaloa. I had pretty good luck with the ficha game this week. So I offered to buy her a drink. Couple drinks, some good lap dances. So I decided to test the waters with my free lap dance coupon. Mileage increased. Junior stayed in but pretty much anything else goes. GREAT kisser and she could have asked for the moon at that point for arriba. FIV and this girl was clearly excited. At this point, no talk of arriba. Knock on the door. She says I need you to take me upstairs now. Her tongue absolutely destroyed my negotiating will power. So begrudgingly, I ask how much. $70. I almost immediately reply vamanos, and she says, no $60. Hahaha. OK. Wasn't worth waiting to get to $50! $1 to the robe dude, $17 to Cascadas and arriba we go. Great session. Started BBBJ, then CBJ, CG, mish, doggie. She seemed to enjoy mish and doggie best. Wanted it hard and deep in mish. Really nice girl. Upon closer inspection, probably more of a 9 than a 10. But great experience! Very friendly girl. A little bit of nervous energy at first. But as much of a GFE as I've had at HK. I would absolutely repeat.

So I guess there is hope on the inflation front. Granted, I'm sure the time of day had something to do with it. I was with her probably noon to 2 PM all told.


Went to Tijuana Tuesday night with a wingman, hoping to meet a few bros from out of town. Arriving around 7 with sun still out, but both were very hungry due to partial lunches, so we decided to head to Mr. Pampas, Brazilian churrascaria for dinner.

All you can eat grilled meats and seafood dinner with a large salad bar for a weeknight discount of 210 pesos or about $11 a head. We split a very good bottle of Chilean Reserva Cab Sauvig for 300 pesos or about $15. Ate a couple plates of all sorts of tasty cuts from beef, pork, poultry, sausages, but no grilled shrimp or octopus were served. The meats were mostly overcooked and dried out, but a few cuts were very good. Servers were polite and attentive just like HK's meseros hehe. It was a huge fancy meal with wine for less than $18 a head, after which we could hardly walk or talk, hehe. Life is good!

Got back to HK hanging out at bar Kowloon waiting for the bros. Tuesday night the club had about half the density of guys and girls, compared to weekends. Most top-tiered girls were missing, could not find any girls worth taking..

[Captain Solo]

To Simmer,

Guys seem to get very good deals with hot girls at the Imperial Theater in Buena Park, at least during day shift.

For a $40 3-song special, hot girls will not let you grope with your hands but will grind on your lap with their butts or knees until the volcano erupts hehe.

But nothing comes even close to the intimate companies in bed with a few fun, warm, pretty, sexy chicas, between partying with your friends in the clubs in Tijuana.

[ClamSlammer]

Eh. What I meant is the big clubs. Tropical and Chabels have same owner as HK. So I'm sure they enforce health cards the same. Adelitas enforces cards. Chicago enforces cards. Who the he'll goes to playboy or the&G anyway?

If you see a girl working at Adelitas that used to work at HK 99% of the time they got into some kind of trouble that doesn't have anything to do with their health card.Anybody who's followed the major Tijuana boards knows that I'm one of the top, if not the top, poster of HK inside info. All the inside info regarding chicas and other topics have all later been proven true. And I'm telling you, HK enforces rules much more strictly than TB and LC, even though they have the same owners. For example, HK Dona a tiny little chaparrita with big tits couldn't wait to turn 18 and start working in bars. As soon as she turned 18, she went to HK to apply and then to the clinic to get her health card. Once she got her health card, she had to work at LC for a couple weeks because HK manager, Coco, would not clear her to work. LC manager didn't give a shit and let her work anyway. But as soon as she provided the additional paperwork that HK demanded, she switched over to HK.

And if you think that AB enforces rules as strictly as HK then you have a lot to learn about the zona. Yes HK chicas that are working at AB are usually suspended because they missed too much work. But some don't have current health cards. And AB doesn't give a shit. You'll see a lot of HK chicas without current health cards working at other bars on the weekends. This is because they forget to get their health cards renewed by Friday and HK will not permit them to work. The clinic is closed on weekends so most of them go work at AB or Deja Vu because it is well-known amongst the putas that those bars will permit chicas without current health cards to work.

[Thunder52]

Had Don Julio. I've grown to be a fan of reposado. Used to only drink blanco. But I spent some time at Levya taste testing about a year ago. I actually prefer extra anejo but that is hard to find in my neck of the woods.I've forever been a fan of Herradura. Last year discovered Herradura Ultra. Primium anejo, produced to be clear. Top shelf stuff. The little bodega to the East sometimes carries it, if not then Castillo on Cuactemoc has the small 375 ML bottles. Find a chick who loves tequila, as most Mexican girls do, and let this aphrodisiac work its magic.

[Electronman]

I made two trips to Hong Kong over the past week. For both trips, I took the blue line trolly from downtown San Diego ($5 round trip) to the border and walked into Mexico. If I recall correctly, the last trolley back to San Diego is around 1 AM so plan accordingly. If you miss the last trolley, the you can take a cab or Uber.

On both trips, I traveled alone and entered Mexico around 5 PM. One time the Mexican border agent stamped my passport; the other time it was a quick look at the passport and I was waved through. I took a cab from the border to Hong Kong on one trip (my first cab driver quoted $8 and I moved on to a different cab driver). The other time, I asked the large black limo if I could get a ride even if I was not a VIP member- no problem. I tipped the limo driver the cost of a cab, $5.

As others have noted, the club was filled with attractive, scantily clad women, some performing on stage but many just hanging out, especially around the stairs / ramp that goes back to the stage where the shaving cream shows are held. I did buy several drinks for attractive women ($9/ drink of which $3 goes to the dancer). The dancer will typically sit with you and cuddle. Some are much more playful, showing tits and pussy for brief views and touches. I found one woman who slid her hand up my shorts for about 5 minutes of play (I was commando); I tipped her a few extra dollars above the cost of the drink.

Most of the girls are comfortable talking "business." I don't speak very much Spanish and most of the dancers only know a few English phrases so it might help to download Google translate on your phone- it will work without being connected to the internet. Many dancers quoted $80; others asked for $100. Some were CBJ and CFS only; a few offered BBBJ and a few offered Greek (covered). I took three dancers for three separate sessions in the adjacent hotel, $17 for the room, $1 extra if you want a small container of lubricant and a $1 tip to the guys who clean up the rooms. Two were slender, young beauties (early 20's) and they were fun. I also tried out a slightly older dancer, who gave off a slutty vibe. She turned out to be the best performer- excellent BBBJ, energetic CFS and even some rimming.

On one of the trips, I stopped in to Adelitas- lots of women but the quality is not as good as Hong Kong. I was also favorably impressed with the attractiveness of some (not all) of the street girls.

On one evening, I caught a cab back to the border. The cab driver insisted on $8 for fare. I decided to not make a scene about the higher than expected fare but I made a mental note to confirm the cab fee (it should by $5) the next time. The next evening, the black limo was sitting at Hong Kong when I wanted to head back to the USA The doorman at the Hong Kong said that the limo shuttle was free except for Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Anyhow, a quick ride back to the border, a $5 tip (generous) for the driver and back to the trolley to Hong Kong. Border crossing back to the US around 10 or 11 PM involved only minor waiting, maybe 10-15 minutes.

Overall, two great trips to Hong Kong. Lots of lovely latina women, lots of T&A, entertaining shaving cream shows, a good deal of fondling and groping for a small tip and enjoyable interludes with some attractive latina women. Not a bad couple of evenings for a 60 year old man.

[Gropai]

Anybody who's followed the major Tijuana boards knows that I'm one of the top, if not the top, poster of HK inside info. All the inside info regarding chicas and other topics have all later been proven true. And I'm telling you, HK enforces rules much more strictly than TB and LC, even though they have the same owners. For example, HK Dona a tiny little chaparrita with big tits couldn't wait to turn 18 and start working in bars. As soon as she turned 18, she went to HK to apply and then to the clinic to get her health card. Once she got her health card, she had to work at LC for a couple weeks because HK manager, Coco, would not clear her to work. LC manager didn't give a shit and let her work anyway. But as soon as she provided the additional paperwork that HK demanded, she switched over to HK.

And if you think that AB enforces rules as strictly as HK then you have a lot to learn about the zona. Yes HK chicas that are working at AB are usually suspended because they missed too much work. But some don't have current health cards. And AB doesn't give a shit. You'll see a lot of HK chicas without current health cards working at other bars on the weekends. This is because they forget to get their health cards renewed by Friday and HK will not permit them to work. The clinic is closed on weekends so most of them go work at AB or Deja Vu because it is well-known amongst the putas that those bars will permit chicas without current health cards to work.How often do the girls renew their health cards? Once a month?

[Gropai]

I'll be bringing dollars in 100 bills to the club, if the girls charge 80, can they break a hundred?

[Baxter Slade]

I'll be bringing dollars in 100 bills to the club, if the girls charge 80, can they break a hundred?It is possible. And I can see where 100's might be easier to carry. But I have found it more convenient to not rely on getting change. So I stock up on 1's 5's and 10's. And I guess some 20' s would not hurt if you are planning on HK girls.

[Gropai]

It is posible. And I can see where 100's might be easier to carry. But I have found it more convenient to not rely on getting change. So I stock up on 1's 5's and 10's. And I guess some 20' s would not hurt if you are planning on HK girls.Unfortunately I'm not in the USA And the banks in my country only offer 100's. So it'd be really great if the girls could break 100's.

[Captain Solo]

To Gropai,

If you hand big bills to the chicas, they will dream up hundreds of excuses why they could not give back change.

You should go to the main bar (Kowloon) and make change. The bars have lots of cash in all denominations.

Don't give big bills to the meseros for change, as they would sometimes forget what they owe you.

[Vagabundo1]

Hey guys,

I am interested in PM with any guys interested in house parties in Tijuana. The basic idea is to invite some HK girls (the attached is on for Saturday night) or escorts or other working girls to a decent pad in Tijuana, maybe in Zona Rio near Hotel Lucerna / Tower K (which is nice).

PM me if interested.

[Captain Solo]

To Dcrist.

Looked like you scored a great deal with Alcides. It's great to find girls who get turned on and give you all their passion in bed. Too bad we did not connect in HK or I could learn from your putas negotiating skills hehe. I will look for Alcides next week. The bros should share names, home town and descriptions of good and bad girls so we can deal with them effectively.

The girl I took to the lap dance, Antina, looked pretty and overall beautiful like a super model, and nice and fun. Her boobs were heavily padded and small, so she might have had implants removed and the right boob was inflamed. At the end, she wanted to negotiate the deal further, but I wanted a perfectly healthy girl so just left her. There are too many other fresh fish to fry in HK hehe.

Regarding what I am looking for in Tijuana, I can do only so much sex a night but I enjoy flirting with the girls and partying with my wingmen all night. Every trip is a sexy, exciting vacation to an exotic place, let my hair down, relax and enjoy life to the fullest with all my senses and feelings, good food, good sex, good fun, like a naughty boy. All my needs, physical, mental, sexual, emotional ect are quickly filled. It's an exciting, sexy paradise, far better than being cooped up in cruise ships. I feel fully recharged, rejuvenated and energetic after every mini vacation. How many folks can afford a sexy vacation every weekend? Life is so good!

I party with a few highly responsible guys. We share the fun and excitement, following up with hot girls. Just like family and old friends. We have fun, sexy relationships with the girls without the critical, judgmental attitudes, not to mention legal and financial risks, with spouses, family and friends at home hehe. I met a few guys who claim they have found everything they need in life in Tijuana, free food, free drinks, free relationships, free sex hehe. It's a relaxed, may be even decadent, lifestyle in which you can enjoy everything you want and don't have to put up with family pressure, social and legal obligations.

Guys who moved near Tijuana are having the sexiest time everyday. Hope to meet next time and introduce you to a few Tijuana regulars, who will share their philosophy in life. Hehe. As emperor once said," All roads lead to Tijuana. " hehe.

[Gropai]

To Gropai,

If you hand big bills to the chicas, they will dream up hundreds of excuses why they could not give back change.

You should go to the main bar (Kowloon) and make change. The bars have lots of cash in all denominations.

Don't give big bills to the meseros for change, as they would sometimes forget what they owe you.Thank you very much for your advice. Actually I've seen people mention Kowloon many times in their posts and I've been confused about it. Is that the name for the bar in HK?

[Captain Solo]

HK club has 4 bars.

Kowloon bar is the main bar on the main floor near the North entrance. These guys have the most cash in the club.

[Dcrist0527]

My negotiating sucks. LOL I'm too picky. So if I find one that I like, I will agree fairly quickly. I won't pay $100! At least not for anyone I've met yet. Haha That was the crazy part of it all, she countered her own offer, within 5 seconds. LOL At first I thought she was confused. But we were talking Spanish. Who knows?

I'd recommend her. She was tall but only because of her elevated shoes. Probably mid 20's. Maybe a bit older. A 10 from a distance, 9 up close. She could absolutely pass as a gringa in looks.

Pretty tight (and I'm not big), and nice muscle control, especially in doggie. Those lips! And those kisses!

I would repeat.


Looked like you scored a great deal with Alcides. It's great to find girls who get turned on and give you all their passion in bed. Too bad we did not connect in HK or I could learn from your putas negotiating skills hehe. I will look for Alcides next week.

[Captain Solo]

I wonder if the East Coast bros have good results cruising singles bars?

I went on a cheap 4 days 3 nights cruise on a Celebrity from Miami. The amenities, food and service on Celebrity ships are true 5 star. These short cruises are known for lots of single, lonely women, young and old, looking for quick, sexy fun on weekends. I spotted a lot of beautiful girls in late 20's, early 30's, in their classy dinner dresses, dining by themselves every night. Quite a few women wanted to show me photo albums in their cabins hehe. Just a suggestion for possibilities.

One of the bros in this site made friends with 2 sisters in their 20's in Miami, got their tels and emails for corresponding. Let's just say the bro is over qualified for Social Security. 2 months later the younger sister got bored and decided to spend a full sexy week with him in So Cal. Damn. I learned a big lesson from him. I took him to HK, he bagged 3 hot girls in a couple hours and wanted more. He lives half time in BS As but felt Tijuana, specifically HK, has much better selection with lower expenses.

If he's reading ISG, I am still game for Tijuana on weekends. Look me up when you are in town.

[OlderMan4U]

Hello all,

Just some thoughts from a recent trip to Hong Kong.

Got off work early Friday and decided to head over to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club. Arrived at San Ysidro around 3:00 PM or so and decided to park at the Border Station Parking which is to your immediate right from the last US exit on I-5 (Camino De La Plaza). At that time there was plenty of open parking spaces. I didn't get the rates, it was something like $25 dollars for 12 hours if I recall. The Ped West entrance is on Virginia Avenue, across the street and slightly to the right from the parking lot.

At that time there was not a lot a huge line to get into Tijuana in the USA Citizens line, but it got slightly crowded at the front of the line as you had to fill out your customs form and no one had a pen on them (or a place to write on). Why they don't do it like the airport where they have areas to fill out the customs form prior to the customs line is beyond me, only towards the front was there a guy handing out forms. Once I got to a Mexican immigration officer, he asked me where I was going and then stamped my passport. When I went through Ped East previous trip, the female officer only asked me what I was doing in Tijuana and handed me back my passport without stamping it. I would estimate about a 20-25 minute wait altogether before I passed through customs. Then it was a pretty decent walk to the exit and then there was a group of taxis queued up in front. The taxi fare was 7 bucks after some hassles.

I decided to get a hotel room for the night since I felt pretty tired and it was 90 bucks for a double room. Why? Because I felt like it. Anyways there is a 30 dollar deposit since the remote is in the room, and all channels were in Espanol. I also got a hand bracelet so that I did not have to pay a cover charge. I brought with me a bar of Dial soap as I usually find those hotel soaps pretty flimsy, and also a small bottle of Listerine.

After checking into my room on the fourth floor, headed down to Hong Kong and as expected at around that time was not very crowded. Did not see anything I liked downstairs so sat by myself in the upstairs room overlooking the Kowloon bar area. Not long after a lady came by, started shaking her butt in my face, and asked for a one dollar tip. Sure, why not. Then she asked if she could sit with me and since I thought she looked cute enough, agreed. I'd say she was about early to mid 20's and very curvy. She loved to grind on me and quoted me 80 dollars for 30 minutes to go upstairs (she didn't know I had rented a room at that point). After two drinks I agreed since I felt chemistry was good enough (not great) as she seemed good natured and we tried to converse in broken Spanish / English. She was nowhere near the hottest girl in the club and was a bit soft, but she had that cute next door girl next door vibe which I like as variety in addition to the stunners.

Once in the room she liked the pole on the bed and started dancing on it until I beckoned her to shower with me. I don't think she was used to that and seemed pretty happy about me showering her down and using the Listerine. She kept playfully calling me "boyfriend. " As strange as it sounds I am not that huge on oral sex sometimes and as we got on the bed started making out with her, lots of kissing then covered missionary. I hadn't rubbed one off for a while so I didn't have a problem with erection, but the same issue of coming too soon happened yet again and I was done in about five minutes. She wanted to cuddle and kiss me for a bit but once I am done, I am done for a while. Then we showered together again and sent her on her way. A very satisfactory session and I decided to get some sleep.

I was so exhausted I drifted in and out of sleep until the sound of conversation woke me up. It was from the guys next door in the bathroom and I heard them loudly through the adjoining door. At that point I weighed my options. I no longer felt horny, didn't feel like going back to the bar, and the thought of trying to get sleep with these guys next door was not sitting well with me at all. At that point I said screw it and decided to go back home. Yes I wasted 90 bucks, but it is what it is. So got dressed up, checked out of room at around 10 PM, and got a taxi back to ped west for five bucks (and yes, just tell the cabbie El Chapparal and he'll know it's ped west, thanks to Captain Solo and others for this tip). At that time the entrance back to the US was deserted and there was no one in line. The walkway back is seriously long though, something to keep in mind if you are inebriated or have physical issues. The booth officer asked me where I was going to in the USA And what my business was in Tijuana. Gave them the usual story about hitting the touristy areas and was cleared through.

The total damage for the night was 80 for the girl, 26 bucks for two drinks for the girl and one for me (including one dollar tip), 90 bucks for the hotel room, 4 dollars in tips for hotel staff, and 15 dollars for parking (about 7 hours), for a grand total of 215 bucks. Without the room would have been 125 bucks. Not bad for a few hours of fun. Not something I'd do every week. And I'll never rent a room for the night again there, it is just too noisy and uncomfortable.

By the way, if anyone has any ideas on how to get more horny besides drugs, would appreciate any ideas. I realize I am not young anymore but wish I could do it more than once a night.

[Simmer]

Full report tomorrow from this Tijuana newbie. But for now, thank you to everybody that contributed to this forum as it was a big help. Kid in a candy store would be an understatement. Absofuckinglutely amazing.

[Travv]

Cascadas (and other Zona Norte hotels) can be noisy on weekends, so I suggest you bring quality earplugs and an eye mask like they use on airplanes to sleep. Another tip is to bring a small notebook or cell phone with a charger and play relaxing music off Youtube using the hotel wifi to help you sleep. The unstated benefit of Cascadas no-one I've noticed has mentioned is no bedbugs or cockroaches. They are very good about changing blankets and cleanliness which you may not find at other Tijuana (or American) hotels. As far as non-Viagra help, suggest you start eating beets and drinking beet juice for the nitrates and mixing powdered cocoa powder into your coffee. Hershey's cocoa powder relaxes your blood vessels like a natural Viagra from what I've read. What some doctors believe is that Viagra usage indicated the start of coronary problems. Which means you need to start doing cardio on the treadmill to avoid the risk of a heart attack and stop smoking. If you do enough Cardio for a few month, no need for Viagra?


Hello all,

Just some thoughts from a recent trip to Hong Kong.

Got off work early Friday and decided to head over to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club. Arrived at San Ysidro around 3:00 PM or so and decided to park at the Border Station Parking which is to your immediate right from the last US exit on I-5 (Camino De La Plaza). At that time there was plenty of open parking spaces. I didn't get the rates, it was something like $25 dollars for 12 hours if I recall. The Ped West entrance is on Virginia Avenue, across the street and slightly to the right from the parking lot.

At that time there was not a lot a huge line to get into Tijuana in the USA Citizens line, but it got slightly crowded at the front of the line as you had to fill out your customs form and no one had a pen on them (or a place to write on).

[Captain Solo]

If she drops her offer quickly from $70 to $60, that could mean she really wanted to fuck your brains out, or her rent is due this week hehe.

My MO is just like you. I am picky, but if I find the girls I like in looks, personality, health and hygiene, I would spend any money. If not, I am totally cool. I don't even want them next to me.

By your recommendations, I have to look up this Alcides. May be I will get lucky.

[Captain Solo]

To Olderman4 you:

It's sad that after all that work driving to Tijuana and blowing $90 on the room, you only got 5 minutes of bliss with a chica. This instinctive hunger for closeness with a warm female body, and the intense pleasures of copulation, drive men to work hard all their lives. Like all living things, men and women are driven all their lives with their physical and emotional needs, designed and buried deep into their genes, to perpetuate their species.

What's wrong with a little ED medicines? Without drugs, you could have hung out in HK, groping, pinching and flirting with chicas until they smear enough female mating hormones on you to make you horny. If your cannon jams, quite a few chicas would graciously take off the cover to help you shoot it. You just need to be patient and not giving up too quickly.

[Simmer]

So I RTFF daily for the last few weeks to try to prepare myself for this. Despite living only an hour or two north of the border, it's somewhat hard to explain an absence to family. But I finally found an excuse to go away for a few days so here I am. This report is written as if we're all new, so apologies for the seasoned travellers.

First I had to meet somebody at a bar about 3 blocks south and 1 block east of HK club. The Uber driver ($5 from Playas) dropped me off in the right place but I was somewhat uncomfortable. Just didn't seem to be a very nice place. Anyway, as it was only a few blocks to HK club I later walked in daylight from a map I'd memorised to avoid pulling out the phone or looking lost. Thankfully got there without issues or more than one or two "señor!" from SG and men (dealers? Fairly thorough pat down from the security, inside to pay my $5 and handed a can of Heineken.

OMFG. Being Saturday it was going to be busy. But it never was uncomfortably so, though I was there early evening. Had a look around and found a shaving foam act in progress. This was two girls fully naked sliding around a small stage, covered in foam. Some bench seats were arranged around the stage with several towels for the punters. A punter would stick a dollar to a girl's leg, breast, or whatever and get to have a play. Anywhere outside seemed to be perfectly okay. I think one or two managed to slide fingers inside her pussy though only for a few seconds. But for a minute or so, that one dollar got your hands all over her body. Grin. In fact I think I had a very big grin on my face! What's more, the girls seemed to be loving it, and the show must have lasted a good half hour. Dildos came out. Or should I say went in, individually, double ended, scissoring, one doing it to the other. Amazing. No punters had use of the dildo (but see later). I wondered what happened to these soaking wet dollars but all was revealed after the show. They went downstairs to a hot tub where they individually washed all the dollars and hung them out to drip dry! No action in the hot tub but enjoyable to see their hot bodies sans foam.

At any one time I think there must have been 6-10 dancers on the multiple stages. Some wore clothes such as lingerie / bikinis / bodysuits, some topless, a few naked. Again, a dollar would get you a grope. Some natural boobs, some enhanced well, others patently obvious they were enhanced and badly placed in that you could feel the implants seperate from breast tissue.

I always had a beer in my hand (most $4, a couple $5. I don't do anything stronger) but I was never hassled by the many waiters. In fact I ended up getting my own drinks from the bar (of which there are at least 3). Similarly, with the girls, I only had one try to latch on to me when I was sat down. Most of the time I was walking around with little more than a touch on the arm as I walked past. Nice to have no pressure.

I was debating whether to have another beer or go. Then the shaving foam came out so I promptly got a beer and sat down at the stage again! Two more girls but they were a bit more demanding. And didn't help that my fellow mongers were throwing handfuls of dollars on them, instead of 1 by 1 like earlier. Same sort of thing as before except the girls wanted $5 to let you use the dildos on them. I could see this getting a little expensive so opted out much sooner than before. But not before the girls took each of the punters heads in their hands and motorboated, shaving foam and all. Needless to say, we all ended up with shaving foam on our heads and shirts!

No, I didn't take a girl upstairs. Might do that tonight. For now I was just in awe at the experience. I have been to Buenos Aires, Rio, Czech Republic, the Philippines, Thailand for mongering and nothing came close to this. Well, apart from one unmarked bar in Quezon City but you had to be taken by a local so not "public" as such. HK was amazing.

A question: is HK the only one that does the foam / lesbian show? I want to look at the other bars as well, but a bit of focused research rather than randomly going in and out of bars.

Thanks again to the posters on this forum.

[Simmer]

Day 2 (Sunday). Went into Adelita first, no cover charge, no pat down. Bought water for $3. 50. One girl dancing at the back, topless, but nobody watching. Main stage had one largish dancer not topless. I don't recall if she did get even topless towards the end or not. The other dancer disappeared. No atmosphere so I left.

HK, pat down, but no cover charge today (or minimum first drink, whatever you want to call it). I was disappointed to find the 3rd floor and the upper 2nd level where the foam show were both closed off. Wandered around, drinking a beer or two. Again, no real pressure to do anything. I noticed a laundry basket with fresh towels go past which got my hopes up but then... nothing. Another beer later and finally saw foam being sprayed on the lower level stage at the back (alley side? Two lovely ladies were already naked and spreading the foam and water. Sat down and started spending. These ladies were great! Kept coming back to me, even shoving my face into her pussy, and grinding up against my hand for ages, and her clit was getting hard. A trio of ordinary girls (ie punters) sat down next to me and one of the stage girls homed in them. I think one had a birthday as she got a lot of attention: again, legs wrapped around her face, had her top pulled down for bonus boobage view, and covered in foam. Again, great fun. No dildos that I saw but I left before they finished. One guy clearly tried to finger one of the girls but she rapidly slid away and waggled her finger, albeit not pissed off and still smiling, so I guess that's a no-no for her at least.

In the meantime I picked up a girl standing under the centre staircase. I think her name was Sarah, from Guadalajara (aren't they all?). Bought her a drink for $9 and she gave me a lapdance right there in public, hands guided everywhere, boobs out. Lovely. Asked for $90 for sex; countered with $80 which she accepted. $1 to the robe bloke, out the alley side to the hotel, $17 for the room, exactly as you guys have described. Quite nice room actually. She didn't want to shower so no DATY. CBJ, FS multiple positions. Probably done in 15 minutes and she was enthusiastic enough. No sign of the cum boys so no tip.

Actually I really wanted one of the shaving foam girls and, despite lots of hands on pussy, also a lot of foam so probably relatively clean enough to DATY (possible STIs aside!). But they were busy.

[Captain Solo]

To Travv.

I was staying in Cascada last week. The noisy brass band was playing all night in front of Cascada, did not stop until about 4 AM. Damn. In between the music, the chicas and their friends were calling out for each other in the hallway at the top of their lungs, on and off all night. I am a deep sleeper but the noise really annoys me.

We are paying top dollars to be kept up all night by noisy, stupid, inconsiderate people. Bring ear plugs but you must be able to hear fire, earthquake alarms etc. I urge the bros to write complaints and suggestions to Cascada's management. Ask them to banish the stupid band to East Tijuana where the cartels routinely dissolve noisy, stupid vagrants in acid drums.

Last time I emailed a complaint about slippery tiles around the shower, they immediately placed a towel on the floor in every room. So do suggest how they can run their hotel better.

[Dcrist0527]

That brass band never sleeps! I saw them as early as 10 AM and as late as 2 AM on various days. Something I never experienced before though. They had a chica that, more than once, assaulted me. LOL She wanted to dance. She was picking the wrong guy! LOL I have no rhythm, can't dance and certainly not after you surprise me as she did on the sidewalk. She was pawing and groping at me, telling me something in my ear. As if my already poor Spanish could hear over the trombone piercing my eardrums. Definitely got the impression it was a proposition. But she was clearly tied to this band and wasn't sure how that would go! She was, at best, a 6. But she was ready to go for sure. After her third attempt that night, I was just avoiding her at all costs.


To Travv.

I was staying in Cascada last week. The noisy brass band was playing all night in front of Cascada, did not stop until about 4 AM. Damn. In between the music, the chicas and their friends were calling out for each other in the hallway at the top of their lungs, on and off all night. I am a deep sleeper but the noise really annoys me.

We are paying top dollars to be kept up all night by noisy, stupid, inconsiderate people. Bring ear plugs but you must be able to hear fire, earthquake alarms etc. I urge the bros to write complaints and suggestions to Cascada's management. Ask them to banish the stupid band to East Tijuana where the cartels routinely dissolve noisy, stupid vagrants in acid drums.

Last time I emailed a complaint about slippery tiles around the shower, they immediately placed a towel on the floor in every room. So do suggest how they can run their hotel better.

[Dcrist0527]

My bet is on rent being due. Haha I hesitate to say we had a great chemistry. But I do think that she enjoyed my laid back approach.

I do hope you get to meet her. As I said, she had this awkward bubbliness at first but I was happy to spend about 2 hours with her all told. Nice girl and nice session. Very tight.


If she drops her offer quickly from $70 to $60, that could mean she really wanted to fuck your brains out, or her rent is due this week hehe.

My MO is just like you. I am picky, but if I find the girls I like in looks, personality, health and hygiene, I would spend any money. If not, I am totally cool. I don't even want them next to me.

By your recommendations, I have to look up this Alcides. May be I will get lucky.

[Travv]

I think the noisy brass band plays for tips. Once they get enough tips in their bucket from the listeners to not play, they will stop playing, usually around 4 am! I used to go to the Vietnamese restaurant across the street so I could close the doors and block the "music". It is so loud, they could use it to torture detainees at Guantanamo! You might try asking for a room on the alley side of the hotel away from the "music" next time.


To Travv.

I was staying in Cascada last week. The noisy brass band was playing all night in front of Cascada, did not stop until about 4 AM. Damn. In between the music, the chicas and their friends were calling out for each other in the hallway at the top of their lungs, on and off all night. I am a deep sleeper but the noise really annoys me.

We are paying top dollars to be kept up all night by noisy, stupid, inconsiderate people. Bring ear plugs but you must be able to hear fire, earthquake alarms etc. I urge the bros to write complaints and suggestions to Cascada's management. Ask them to banish the stupid band to East Tijuana where the cartels routinely dissolve noisy, stupid vagrants in acid drums.

Last time I emailed a complaint about slippery tiles around the shower, they immediately placed a towel on the floor in every room. So do suggest how they can run their hotel better.

[CountryMan54]

I think the noisy brass band plays for tips. Once they get enough tips in their bucket from the listeners to not play, they will stop playing, usually around 4 am! I used to go to the Vietnamese restaurant across the street so I could close the doors and block the "music". It is so loud, they could use it to torture detainees at Guantanamo! You might try asking for a room on the alley side of the hotel away from the "music" next time.How much of a tip does it take to shut them up?

[Captain Solo]

To Travv.

I think if you tip them, they would play louder and longer.

May be a grenade would work?

[Monkey7212]

Hey all,

Been a long time since I've been here on the forums. Frequent HK monger, though I haven't been in a few months. Back again, and upon checking in got a card for "Free Breakfast" Tuesday / Wednesday 10 am - 11:30 am for HK and Cascadas customers only from the front desk. It's supposed to be in HK during the aforementioned hours.

This must be new, never remember seeing this before. Any one checked this out? I'm not one to turn down free grub, but if it's a super awkward experience. Would rather pass. Thanks in advance.

[Captain Solo]

To Monkey7212.

This free breakfast deal is new.

Looks like HK and Cascada sweeten the deal with 80% room discount on Mon and Tues, and now free breakfast in the morning. I have to try it, breakfast in the morning in HK, washed down with beers while watching naked girls on the stage. Well, you can order coffee, but Azul only has instants. This sexy prospect is hard to resist. Have to try it.

Why feel awkward? In the morning there should be plenty of open tables. Just sit down, give the card to a mesero, specify what you want for breakfast, then tip him when he brings it back. HK operates with vouchers for guys and girls, like their own private currency in the club.

[Travv]

There are some musicians so bad that people will pay to not hear them. Yoko Ono and this Brass band come to mind, but I was joking about paying the band not to play. I understand in Mexico traditionally someone like El Chapo would make the offer by saying "Plata or plomo si no toca mas musica aqui" while holding out some money. In other words, (Silver) take the money to do what I say or Lead (I will kill you) if you do not play any more music here.


How much of a tip does it take to shut them up?

[OlderMan4U]

Cascadas (and other Zona Norte hotels) can be noisy on weekends, so I suggest you bring quality earplugs and an eye mask like they use on airplanes to sleep. Another tip is to bring a small notebook or cell phone with a charger and play relaxing music off Youtube using the hotel wifi to help you sleep. The unstated benefit of Cascadas no-one I've noticed has mentioned is no bedbugs or cockroaches. They are very good about changing blankets and cleanliness which you may not find at other Tijuana (or American) hotels. As far as non-Viagra help, suggest you start eating beets and drinking beet juice for the nitrates and mixing powdered cocoa powder into your coffee. Hershey's cocoa powder relaxes your blood vessels like a natural Viagra from what I've read. What some doctors believe is that Viagra usage indicated the start of coronary problems. Which means you need to start doing cardio on the treadmill to avoid the risk of a heart attack and stop smoking. If you do enough Cardio for a few month, no need for Viagra?I did have earplugs but along with the band out in front and all the other noise, I didn't think it would help in the long run. I just wanted to get out of there. The eye mask and relaxing music is a good idea for next time potentially. I do agree with you that one good thing about Cascadas is no bed bugs or creepy crawlies. I've stayed there only about four times but never experienced those issues, which I suspect is common in some of the dive hotels.

In terms of non Viagra help, those are good suggestions, I usually don't have an issue with erections if I am sufficiently aroused. Some days better than others, but my refractory period has gotten worse over the years.


To Olderman4 you:

It's sad that after all that work driving to Tijuana and blowing $90 on the room, you only got 5 minutes of bliss with a chica. This instinctive hunger for closeness with a warm female body, and the intense pleasures of copulation, drive men to work hard all their lives. Like all living things, men and women are driven all their lives with their physical and emotional needs, designed and buried deep into their genes, to perpetuate their species..Now I remember why I booked the room. My original plan was to have at least three sex sessions, but after the first one, I had zero desire for sex rest of the night. As I mentioned above, my refractory period has gotten worse. Combine that with the noisy room, I just felt let down and wanted to get out of there.

But one thing I've read, and was not aware of this, is that Viagra can actually help with the refractory period. Anyone experience this? I don't have a problem with erection too much, just that after one pop I am done for the night unlike when I was even in my 30's.

I am researching now and it seems like supplements like mucuna pruriens might help with this (with some weird side effects).

[Ctytek]

That is why I never stay in Cascadas. Well, that and the cum infested rooms. LOL.

Better to sleep in a much nicer hotels in Centro, safe distance aways from the all rateros, noise, and dirt of the Zona.


To Travv.

I was staying in Cascada last week. The noisy brass band was playing all night in front of Cascada, did not stop until about 4 AM. Damn. In between the music, the chicas and their friends were calling out for each other in the hallway at the top of their lungs, on and off all night. I am a deep sleeper but the noise really annoys me.

[Member #4722]

That is why I never stay in Cascadas. Well, that and the cum infested rooms. LOL.

Better to sleep in a much nicer hotels in Centro, safe distance aways from the all rateros, noise, and dirt of the Zona.Whatever you do just don't shine a black light in the rooms at Cascadas. The place will probably light up like a Christmas tree!

[Ath Trainer]

I did have earplugs but along with the band out in front and all the other noise, I didn't think it would help in the long run. I just wanted to get out of there. The eye mask and relaxing music is a good idea for next time potentially. I do agree with you that one good thing about Cascadas is no bed bugs or creepy crawlies. I've stayed there only about four times but never experienced those issues, which I suspect is common in some of the dive hotels.

In terms of non Viagra help, those are good suggestions, I usually don't have an issue with erections if I am sufficiently aroused. Some days better than others, but my refractory period has gotten worse over the years.

Now I remember why I booked the room. My original plan was to have at least three sex sessions, but after the first one, I had zero desire for sex rest of the night. As I mentioned above, my refractory period has gotten worse. Combine that with the noisy room, I just felt let down and wanted to get out of there.

But one thing I've read, and was not aware of this, is that Viagra can actually help with the refractory period. Anyone experience this? I don't have a

problem with erection too much, just that after one pop I am done for the night unlike when I was even in my 30's.

I am researching now and it seems like supplements like mucuna pruriens might help with this (with some weird side effects).From my experience and research, viagra will make you climax slower. I do not beleive it makes you recover faster.

[HornyIndo]

Hello fellow mongers,

I have been a member of the USA version of the site, but planning first international visit now.

This forum has been great, and I have a good idea what I want to sample on my first visit.

Most of my questions are answered by recent comments, I have a few more.

Would appreciate info from seniors here.

I am considering staying at Cascadas for my first visit to keep things simple, and sticking with SGs and BGs to make sure WYSWYG.

But I do want BBBJ and MSOG which I see offered by the agency girls.

1. I understand BGs would charge 80-100 for hour. I prefer 90 min sessions as I am over 40 and it takes longer to get going a second time. Can I negotiate for 90 mins with HK BGs? Or does the establishment requires 60 min sessions?

2. does a typical sessions with BGs from HKs include BBBJ and MSOG? Or is that extra?

3. the 17 charge for the room does not apply if I am staying at Cascades, right?

4. I plan to spend Monday there, I see some mentions of 80% off on Mondays. I cannot find what exactly is off, any pointers?

5. If I can find a SG to come to Cascades, would the hotel charge anything?

6. I would want to try out generic Viagra to last longer, and to go multiple times. I saw one or two comments, any suggestions on what brands and where to get them?

[Baxter Slade]

Hello fellow mongers,

I have been a member of the USA version of the site, but planning first international visit now.

This forum has been great, and I have a good idea what I want to sample on my first visit.

Most of my questions are answered by recent comments, I have a few more.

Would appreciate info from seniors here.

I am considering staying at Cascadas for my first visit to keep things simple, and sticking with SGs and BGs to make sure WYSWYG.

But I do want BBBJ and MSOG which I see offered by the agency girls.

1. I understand BGs would charge 80-100 for hour. I prefer 90 min sessions as I am over 40 and it takes longer to get going a second time. Can I negotiate for 90 mins with HK BGs? Or does the establishment requires 60 min sessions?

2. does a typical sessions with BGs from HKs include BBBJ and MSOG? Or is that extra?

3. the 17 charge for the room does not apply if I am staying at Cascades, right?

4. I plan to spend Monday there, I see some mentions of 80% off on Mondays. I cannot find what exactly is off, any pointers?

5. If I can find a SG to come to Cascades, would the hotel charge anything?

6. I would want to try out generic Viagra to last longer, and to go multiple times. I saw one or two comments, any suggestions on what brands and where to get them?1. Its Mexico so everything is negotiable. I have heard of the clubs wanting you to buy a bucket of fichas if your time excides an hour, but not always the case. Best to make sure there is a clear understanding of what you want and what she is willing to provide. As far as extended time best to try to work out a deal when she is outside the club.

2. Not usually but refer to question 1 everything is negotiable for the right price. And if you are thinking agencies for those extras. Remember most agency girls will not come to Zona Norte.

3. That is correct. Once you have a room there is no limit who you can bring to your room. If its not an HK girl make sure she has an ID, that's the only requirement.

4. If you purchase the HK VIP card you will get 80% off your room rate for Monday. For a single I believe it comes out to around 11 dollars.

5. No again just be sure she has an ID.

6. I can not help you there. Never tried any of those. As far as price many will recommend Piri farmacia located across from the wax museum.

[Simmer]

But one thing I've read, and was not aware of this, is that Viagra can actually help with the refractory period. Anyone experience this? I don't have a problem with erection too much, just that after one pop I am done for the night unlike when I was even in my 30's.

I am researching now and it seems like supplements like mucuna pruriens might help with this (with some weird side effects).I've not heard of reducing the refractory period. As for supplements, I have my doubts over many of them (of all types) by the time they've been processed into powders. But for a laugh try Bremelanotide, aka PT-141 which you inject into your belly 8-12 hours before sex. Lots of side effects for me though, but raging erections.

[Dcrist0527]

I'll share my experience, but with a caveat.

Like you, I don't need it usually. I sometimes take it for quality and confidence. I'm in my mid 40's. When I do use V, there have been rare occasions where I am ready to go immediately. That would never happen for me without it. But more often than not, it does decrease the refractory period. I would say no more than 10 minutes, long enough for a shower. This is shorter than I would have had to wait without the aid.

The caveat. That's not always the case. I have had slightly different experiences. (Nothing significant.) There have been times that I'm one and done for 30+ minutes too. That's rare when I take the V but it has happened.


one thing I've read, and was not aware of this, is that Viagra can actually help with the refractory period. Anyone experience this? I don't have a problem with erection too much, just that after one pop I am done

[Ath Trainer]

Hello fellow mongers,

I have been a member of the USA version of the site, but planning first international visit now.

This forum has been great, and I have a good idea what I want to sample on my first visit.

Most of my questions are answered by recent comments, I have a few more.

Would appreciate info from seniors here.

I am considering staying at Cascadas for my first visit to keep things simple, and sticking with SGs and BGs to make sure WYSWYG.

But I do want BBBJ and MSOG which I see offered by the agency girls.

1. I understand BGs would charge 80-100 for hour. I prefer 90 min sessions as I am over 40 and it takes longer to get going a second time. Can I negotiate for 90 mins with HK BGs? Or does the establishment requires 60 min sessions?

2. does a typical sessions with BGs from HKs include BBBJ and MSOG? Or is that extra?


3. the 17 charge for the room does not apply if I am staying at Cascades, right?



4. I plan to spend Monday there, I see some mentions of 80% off on Mondays. I cannot find what exactly is off, any pointers?

5. If I can find a SG to come to Cascades, would the hotel charge anything?

6. I would want to try out generic Viagra to last longer, and to go multiple times. I saw one or two comments, any suggestions on what brands and
where to get them?HK bar girls charge 80 to 100 for 1 pop or 30 minutes.

[WombatEd2]

I'll be bringing dollars in 100 bills to the club, if the girls charge 80, can they break a hundred?Change your 100's to Mexican pesos. (But not at HK.) Almost anything you buy will cost less. Or draw pesos from an ATM.

And get small bills, because you'll find far to many places that can't make change. Most banks will break your high-denomination bills without a fee.

[Thunder52]

As for supplements, I have my doubts over many of them (of all types) by the time they've been processed into powders. But for a laugh try Bremelanotide, aka PT-141 which you inject into your belly 8-12 hours before sex. Lots of side effects for me though, but raging erections.I try to get plenty of quality sleep, then pop a handful of pre-workout suppliments. NO3, a.

Mega be complex dose, modafinil, double espresso (no milk). Same as before I play or workout, the NO3, as will a teaspoon of cacao powder or nibs, dilate your blood vessels allowing more blood into your muscles. I take calcium citrate to keep from cramping, a shot of Nasonex for stuffy nose, and aspirin for headache if I drink and V, plus it thins the blood. Lots of water and a couple shots of Herradura Ultra.

[Simmer]

I try to get plenty of quality sleep, then pop a handful of pre-workout suppliments. NO3, a.

Mega be complex dose, modafinil, double espresso (no milk). Same as before I play or workout, the NO3, as will a teaspoon of cacao powder or nibs, dilate your blood vessels allowing more blood into your muscles. I take calcium citrate to keep from cramping, a shot of Nasonex for stuffy nose, and aspirin for headache if I drink and V, plus it thins the blood. Lots of water and a couple shots of Herradura Ultra.Interesting, thanks for sharing.

What's with the specifically red powerade I've seen mentioned in the Tijuana forums? Never had a hangover when I was there but tried a couple of bottles anyway.

[Monger652]

Friday late afternoon is my favorite time to visit Hong Kong. The top tier girls are arriving fresh for the weekend and it doesn't get crowded until after 6 so you have the pick if the litter. Two girls caught my eye today: a young blond with pigtails with fake boobs (didn't catch her name) and Mindi de Tijuana. A spinner with nice B cups and long black hair. Very petite. Any info on these girls?

[Captain Solo]

Ximena, the tall barbie doll with long, strong legs and slightly droopy boobs, her pretty face resembling Cybill Shepherd's, started working in HK a few weeks ago. She hangs out near the stairs between the 2 bars. She's distant and expressionless in and out of bed, but managed to burst out laughing, fighting me off, when I kept groping her crotch and grabbing her butt on the way to the hotel. She's lightning quick with angry outbursts against other working girls, but otherwise nice, quiet and accommodating in any position with her clients.

It's very nice to drive into her pussy, watching her pretty face twitching, breathing deeply with each thrust. Her rate has just gone from a few hundred pesos to 1,500 firm for a session. After Ximena, Paola and Krystal went into HK, there are not too many hot girls left in the alley. Damn.

The bros should hurry up and sample all alley girls before they start work in HK, charging 1,500 to 2,000 pesos per session- hehe.

[Captain Solo]

To Monger 652.

Friday late afternoon with fresh top-tiered girls is a very good idea, except long lines in both pedestrian and car lanes going South across the border to the smiling faces, hot, sexy bodies and moist crotches waiting for the sexy weekends hehe.

I don't know these 2 girls. There are just too many of them. One hot spinner with be cups. Long shinny straight black hair, is Paola from Veracruz. She would caress my dick while I stuck my finger inside her vagina and massage her G spot until her whole body convulsed in lust and her pussy get soaking wet. She would caress my back and my arms, plead with me to fuck her slow and gentle to prolong the pleasure. Now, that's good sex. She usually hangs out near the stairs. Ask for her.

[StRobert]

Hello fellow mongers,

I have been a member of the USA version of the site, but planning first international visit now.

This forum has been great, and I have a good idea what I want to sample on my first visit.

Most of my questions are answered by recent comments, I have a few more.

Would appreciate info from seniors here.

I am considering staying at Cascadas for my first visit to keep things simple, and sticking with SGs and BGs to make sure WYSWYG.

But I do want BBBJ and MSOG which I see offered by the agency girls.

1. I understand BGs would charge 80-100 for hour. I prefer 90 min sessions as I am over 40 and it takes longer to get going a second time. Can I negotiate for 90 mins with HK BGs? Or does the establishment requires 60 min sessions?

2. does a typical sessions with BGs from HKs include BBBJ and MSOG? Or is that extra?

3. the 17 charge for the room does not apply if I am staying at Cascades, right?

4. I plan to spend Monday there, I see some mentions of 80% off on Mondays. I cannot find what exactly is off, any pointers?

5. If I can find a SG to come to Cascades, would the hotel charge anything?

6. I would want to try out generic Viagra to last longer, and to go multiple times. I saw one or two comments, any suggestions on what brands and where to get them?Generic Viagra: I bought "Figral" (sildenafil citrate) in farmacia Piri - 10 tablets 100 MG was USD 7. Made in Mexico producer company Mavi. It works well about 1 hour after swallowing and you are ready for action. (Viagra is to help with erection not to extend sex).

[Simmer]

Generic Viagra: I bought "Figral" (sildenafil citrate) in farmacia Piri - 10 tablets 100 MG was USD 7. Made in Mexico producer company Mavi. It works well about 1 hour after swallowing and you are ready for action. (Viagra is to help with erection not to extend sex).Did you get asked for a prescription there? Good price for that few tablets.

[HornyIndo]

Generic Viagra: I bought "Figral" (sildenafil citrate) in farmacia Piri - 10 tablets 100 MG was USD 7. Made in Mexico producer company Mavi. It works well about 1 hour after swallowing and you are ready for action. (Viagra is to help with erection not to extend sex).Thanks fellow mongers! Appreciate the help, hopefully I would be sharing info soon.

Based on limitations on Escorts at Cascadas I was considering to book Quinta (based on some of the suggestions on this forum). But looks like its booked out for the dates I am travelling!

I am looking at Hotel Paris which is nearby to Quinta. Any suggestions?

[StRobert]

Did you get asked for a prescription there? Good price for that few tablets.

Yes the price is good (in Walgreens US I asked for the price is about USD 50 for one tablet!) And I was surprised that Figral works very well as the original Viagra from US (Pfizer). I did not ask for a prescription and no one in farmacia asked me for a prescription. I paid and I left the store. The selling girl said that the farmacia is open from 9 AM to 7 PM every day.

[Staple Stable]

Is it worth staying in Cascadas if you're a light sleeper? Hearing all this talk about bands playing outside makes me hesitant. Planning on staying for about 4 nights around 4th of July. The 80% discount for VIP on Monday and Tuesday makes it really tempting, but not if it's impossible to get a good night's sleep.

[Captain Solo]

To Staple Stable.

If you are a light sleeper, mention it to the reception guys and ask for a room on the South, fronting the alley, where street girls whisper their sexy deals hehe.

Post a sign in front of your door, " Silencio, por favor."

Bring ear plugs to block out the noise.

[The Tall Man]

To Olderman4 you:

It's sad that after all that work driving to Tijuana and blowing $90 on the room, you only got 5 minutes of bliss with a chica. This instinctive hunger for closeness with a warm female body, and the intense pleasures of copulation, drive men to work hard all their lives. Like all living things, men and women are driven all their lives with their physical and emotional needs, designed and buried deep into their genes, to perpetuate their species.

What's wrong with a little ED medicines? Without drugs, you could have hung out in HK, groping, pinching and flirting with chicas until they smear enough female mating hormones on you to make you horny. If your cannon jams, quite a few chicas would graciously take off the cover to help you shoot it. You just need to be patient and not giving up too quickly.So true that these desires are buried deep within us all, realizing this I need to have my self antenna on all the time as I can easily fall into the confusion of thinking that enjoying warm sweet close passionate sex with a young woman is love, WTF it is only an ingrained biological seed buried very deep inside my DNA. Note to self, never confuse the two as when I have in the past it has cost me dearly.

TTM.

[Baxter Slade]

Is it worth staying in Cascadas if you're a light sleeper? Hearing all this talk about bands playing outside makes me hesitant. Planning on staying for about 4 nights around 4th of July. The 80% discount for VIP on Monday and Tuesday makes it really tempting, but not if it's impossible to get a good night's sleep.Last 2 times I stayed on the 6th floor in the new rooms. It was unusually quiet. I can not sleep due to thinking I'm missing something by not being downstairs in the bars.

But 4 nights in Cascadas is just to long for me. Maybe 2 nights at Cascadas and 2 somewhere near revolucion is just right.

[Simmer]

Yes the price is good (in Walgreens US I asked for the price is about USD 50 for one tablet!) And I was surprised that Figral works very well as the original Viagra from US (Pfizer). I did not ask for a prescription and no one in farmacia asked me for a prescription. I paid and I left the store. The selling girl said that the farmacia is open from 9 AM to 7 PM every day.It *ought* to work as well as Pfizer Viagra as it's *supposed* to be the same active ingredient and appears to be regulated by the authorities so it *ought* to be legit. Compare to the Indian pharmacies who seem a little dubious in their content and have a perhaps unfair reputation of credit card skimming or other fraud if you're not careful. Being able to drive a couple of hours south and pick up genuine tabs for the same price or less, and pay in cash, is attractive to me. Cheers!

[Staple Stable]

To Staple Stable.

If you are a light sleeper, mention it to the reception guys and ask for a room on the South, fronting the alley, where street girls whisper their sexy deals hehe.

Post a sign in front of your door, " Silencio, por favor."

Bring ear plugs to block out the noise.Thanks for the tip. Will definitely try to get a south facing room.

[Staple Stable]

Last 2 times I stayed on the 6th floor in the new rooms. It was unusually quiet. I can not sleep due to thinking I'm missing something by not being downstairs in the bars.

But 4 nights in Cascadas is just to long for me. Maybe 2 nights at Cascadas and 2 somewhere near revolucion is just right.Ideally I would've only done Monday and Tuesday for the cheap rooms, but as circumstance has it I'm in California for 4 days with nothing to do, so I decided I'd just hop across the border and have some fun. I've never been to Mexico, and HK seems to have the best reputation, which is why I decided on it. Is revolucion for SGs? Not opposed to taking a crack at those as well, but my Spanish is very limited.

[TomJackin]

Is revolucion for SGs? Not opposed to taking a crack at those as well, but my Spanish is very limited.Everything you need is in a two block area. The SGs are in the same area.

[Captain Solo]

To StapleStable.

The Coahuila bar block is safer than most areas in Tijuana with policias, security guards, bar touts, mongers, chicas, food stalls, beggars and the brass band all night.

When wandering away from that zone, remember to walk on the streets, stay away from sidewalks with hidden doors and alleys where rateros can hide and chokehold you.

There are some very attractive street girls worth checking out. The most popular ones usually start work after 8 PM, mostly on weekends. Their standard deal is "Fuckie Suckie sin ropas para quatro ciento peso (400)," plus about $5 for the ST room they work in. Offer them that phrase and they would quickly grab your arm and take you to the room.

If you can speak Spanish you can enjoy the dirty talks when the girls climax hehe.

Ideally I would've only done Monday and Tuesday for the cheap rooms, but as circumstance has it I'm in California for 4 days with nothing to do, so I decided I'd just hop across the border and have some fun. I've never been to Mexico, and HK seems to have the best reputation, which is why I decided on it. Is revolucion for SGs? Not opposed to taking a crack at those as well, but my Spanish is very limited.

[Jicks]

I don't see VIP discounts on cascadas hotel website now, can someone confirm VIP discounts are still valid? Don't want to get a surprise while check-in.

[Jicks]

I don't see VIP discounts on cascadas hotel website now, can someone confirm VIP discounts are still valid? Don't want to get a surprise while check-in.I see website have updated discounts, "HK VIPs get 20% Off Mon – Wed". No more 80% discounts.

[Captain Solo]

To Jicks,

Cascada 80% Mon Tues discount for HK VIPS is still in HK's web site:

Become an Exclusive VIP Gold Member.

Get Your $50 VIP Membership Card.

Membership includes:

20% Off In Hotel.

80% Off Hotel Monday & Tuesday.

http://hktijuana.com/vip-services.php

[Jicks]

To Jicks,

Cascada 80% Mon Tues discount for HK VIPS is still in HK's web site:

Become an Exclusive VIP Gold Member.

Get Your $50 VIP Membership Card.

Membership includes:

20% Off In Hotel.

80% Off Hotel Monday & Tuesday.

http://hktijuana.com/vip-services.phpThanks. I was looking to hotel cascadas website.

[SamWise1]

This is my first visit to Tijuana and HK. I did my study and read the forum last 50 pages or so to get good idea. Thanks to all the active member here got useful information. I was in SD for 4 day on some work related conference and was good opportunity to visit Tijuana.

Here is the stats before I get into details.

Visited – 3 days between 5 PM to 11:30 PM on Wednesdays to Thursday.

Took Total 4 girls to upstairs. Paid 70 to 80 each depending on girl. 2 girls asked for 100 but agreed on 80.

Have least have 10 drink to girls and 12 lap dances in VIP (Man. I could not believe the can be done on those VIP room).

Total spend would be close to $650 for 3 nights I spent there.

Did not change to pesos and felt no need to.

First day (Tuesday): This was my first time in Tijuana and also in HK so I was very was cautious and did not know what to expect. Got train from my downtown hotel to border. Crossed the border and got taxi to HK. Thanks to everyone here for clear direction. Man crossing that rotating gate where you can't go back to US gave me goosebumps- Verified that I had passport with me 2 times).

Got inside the club – it was not full but has many girls. Got my beer for 7 bucks and sat on one table. Talked to few girls but there English was limited so they could not hold the conversation. I also realized that after 2 min of talk the waiter shows up asking for drinks. I like one spinner who was standing near stairs and approached her for drink. She sat down with me and I bought her drink. She spoke some broken English but also was very good in getting me aroused. Touching me everywhere and putting hand in my shirt while I squeeze her. After 20 min or so we decided to go upstairs. Paid 17 buck for room and off we go. In room she was good and made me happy. Many positions and she also let me took the photos and videos (which I like to do for my later back home memory). The only drawback was knock on door when I am middle of banging her. But she shouted something in Spanish and we kept doing for another 10 min or so.

Came back to club- Hanged around with couple of more girl and bought them drinks. I wanted to go back before it becomes too late in night as was my first time and did not know what to expect at border + other late night commute at train. So left around 7:30 PM or so even though I don't wanted to go. Anyway no issue back at border. I got the passport card and that helped for fast entry I guess. I had passport in my backpack just in case. No questions asked at border and off I was back in hotel by 9 PM or so in downtown. It was good night.

[SamWise1]

Second night (Wed)- I was more confident now that I knew the drill. Also I thought I should book a room at 60 bucks at cascedas because of 3 reasons - 1) I don't like knocks the previous night I thought will give me more time with girls. 2) the 17 bucks room was very dark and dingy and I thought the upstairs room would be better quality. 3) I had more time this night and if I am too drunk and wanted to spend night there I could do that as well.

So first thing when I reached there around 6 PM –I booked the room. It was bigger and nicer but still dingy and safe did not work. I asked manager to change it thinking I might be better room but other room he gave was also similar meaning all room were same size. The hotel gave me band to wear so it looked like I belong there in club J.

This time I was more relaxed as was not in hurry to go back. Also there were more girls in club specially after 7 PM or so. I got some girls drinks and on girl said do you want to go to VIP. I asked how much and she said its 21 bucks. I said lets go. I would not believe the privacy of the VIP room. I have been to many strip clubs but nothing like this. Liked the idea also liked the idea that you pay money outside so you don't have to worry about how may songs you did. I thought the time was like 2 to 3 songs. Again the times up is by knock on door L.

I took may be 4 to 5 VIP dances and took 2 shortlisted girls upstairs for further fun. Was tired with all the action and it was close to 11 PM. I could not sleep in the room as it was very dark so decided to go back to my Marriott hotel in San Diego. I was little high with all the beer so started drinking water till I hit the border. No issue at crossing overall. Train ride back was scary (or maybe I felt that way as first time) as lot of homeless people on board.

Here is my summary and like to have feedback.

1. People on So cal have this amazing thing close to border which I think no other part of country has so you guys should cherish it. This is the closest thing to my 4 visits to Thailand. Many things can be improved thought.

2. Somehow I think what lack in HK is overall new girls. Some girls were good looking but I think many of them have babies back home or had lot of mileage on them. If you know what I mean. (maybe I need to be regular there to find new girls). I could not find 20 year old with fresh looks.

3. STDs- Somehow I felt that I have to be careful about it here more due to type of girls I have seen. So I was extra careful in all protection. I did not feel this way in Thailand or in Germany. Not sure if there is way to avoids obvious traps here.

4. Hotels can be better – cascedas need to have room with open window or with good A/C, good lighting etc (not sure If I got unlucky or all rooms sucks there) I could not spend night in that room.

5. I wish the city would be more accessible and free of crime so you could Rome around in night to different part of city.

[Captain Solo]

Tuesday night drove down to Tijuana to meet with a bro from out of state. Got to Cascada by 7:30 PM, got a double room on 4th floor where the chicas rent their rooms. The good news is, the noisy brass band no longer played at night, but the chicas were still talking loud all night in the hallway, and the music was thumping all night on 4th floor.

It was good to get first-hand infos from the bro regarding Central America. It's quicker and cheaper to fly direct from California to Florida then direct to see America, than flying via Panama or Costa Rica.

Tuesday night HK lacked the top talents. I was cruising the club with the bro but did not find any girl attractive enough to spend time with. Was hungry after a long day. Had a big rib eye steak with Azul's 2-4-1 coupon and got stuffed. Felt sleepy afterwards. HK's Tuesday nights are just not too sexy and exciting to me.

[Aviator400]

Here is my summary and like to have feedback.

1. People on So cal have this amazing thing close to border which I think no other part of country has so you guys should cherish it. This is the closest thing to my 4 visits to Thailand. Many things can be improved thought.

2. Somehow I think what lack in HK is overall new girls. Some girls were good looking but I think many of them have babies back home or had lot of mileage on them. If you know what I mean. (maybe I need to be regular there to find new girls). I could not find 20 year old with fresh looks..1. True; many things can be improved. This can be said of most anywhere. San Diego has a terrible homeless problem. Tijuana has a terrible refugee problem.

2. A 20-year-old Mexican woman who has not had at least one child is rare. However, there seems to be a large quantity of younger girls in Bar Tropical across the street.

3. The girls are tested monthly, but BBing a working girl is scary. A moment of pleasure could result in a lifetime of pain. I like sex, but I have turned down BB offers because it just is not worth the risk. I understand that in other locals the girls are tested more frequently, but mongers don't carry health cards.

4. You experience seems to be limited to one of the older rooms. That said, the new rooms are not a lot better regarding A / see, hot water, noise, and so forth. If you want to sleep, consider a hotel outside the zone, but it will cost you more. What you probably did not notice is the new Azul restaurant upstairs, the new restaurant in the ally, the new rooms still under construction. So there are improvements in the works that you would not see in three days time.

5. Is any place free of crime? Characterizing Tijuana as being unsafe might be overblown. A little. During the day on the main streets you are reasonably safe. At night a higher level of caution is necessary. There are safer cities. However, if you are sober, do not display any bling, dress conservatively, are polite, it is unlikely that you will have issues.

Appreciate the report and the time you took to write it.

[Gsil247]

So I haven't been to this place or even Tijuana since summer of 2016. Has anything really changed with this place as I do plan on going this weekend. I made a reservation but haven't heard anything back regarding email. I forgot they take about 24 hours to respond.

[Dilwala]

Check your spam folder for booking confirmation.


So I haven't been to this place or even Tijuana since summer of 2016. Has anything really changed with this place as I do plan on going this weekend. I made a reservation but haven't heard anything back regarding email. I forgot they take about 24 hours to respond.

[ScatManDoo]

Did not change to pesos and felt no need to...

... Got my beer for 7 bucks.There may not be a "need" to get pesos.

But you are demonstrating a good reason to get and spend pesos.

[Beevee]

This is my first visit to Tijuana and HK. I did my study and read the forum last 50 pages or so to get good idea. Thanks to all the active member here got useful information. I was in SD for 4 day on some work related conference and was good opportunity to visit Tijuana.

Here is the stats before I get into details.

Visited 3 days between 5 PM to 11:30 PM on Wednesdays to Thursday.

Took Total 4 girls to upstairs. Paid 70 to 80 each depending on girl. 2 girls asked for 100 but agreed on 80.

Have least have 10 drink to girls and 12 lap dances in VIP (Man. I could not believe the can be done on those VIP room)..Nice report SamWise. The spinner near the stairs. Did yo happen to get her name?

[Dilwala]

Can anybody help me how to select room in Cascadas in terms of old vs new, which floor, window facing alley?

Thanks.

[Yiruma]

I got some girls drinks and on girl said do you want to go to VIP. I asked how much and she said its 21 bucks. I said lets go. I would not believe the privacy of the VIP room. I have been to many strip clubs but nothing like this. Liked the idea also liked the idea that you pay money outside so you don't have to worry about how may songs you did. I thought the time was like 2 to 3 songs. Again the times up is by knock on door L.

I took may be 4 to 5 VIP dances and took 2 shortlisted girls upstairs for further fun.I have a the VIP card, but have never taken advantage of the half off lap dances. Is it worth it to have a private dance and what happens in those rooms?

[Aviator400]

Can anybody help me how to select room in Cascadas in terms of old vs new, which floor, window facing alley?

Thanks.Make your reservation for the type of room as far in advance as possible.

When you check in, make the request while sliding a $5 tip across to the clerk.

Overall, the upper floors are better. Note that the elevator goes just to the 6th floor. If you have any trouble walking or with stairs, you might decline a 7 or 8.

If you ask for a Master or Jacuzzi room in the new section, you will probably get it.

I am guessing, but when they finished the new section (or at least made it habitable) they started using some of the older rooms they let out for the night for short-term rooms.

[MongerHunger]

There may not be a "need" to get pesos.

But you are demonstrating a good reason to get and spend pesos.I second that, also 7 bucks for one beer? I don't even pay that much for a beer in the US. Some people pay what they are told to pay with no if's, and's or but's. Price sounds very inflated.

[Dcrist0527]

I've had good experiences in there. To be fair, without fail, there is pressure at the end for arriba. But after the lap dance, I know enough about her to say yes or no.

Obviously, YMMV and it depends on the girl. And you only get 2-3 songs. But almost anything goes. The doors lock on the inside. I've had everything but FS, and could have at least had a minute of that if I wanted.

There was one chica that was a bit of a prude and she was all about arriba. But I've found it a good place to interview. LOL.


Lap dance room is hit or miss. 2/3rd time the girl will act like you have the flu. And be bugging you about sex upstairs. Some girls will do a normal American lap dance and let you duck nipple grab tits azz. Usually I regret choosing this option.

[Aviator400]

I have a the VIP card, but have never taken advantage of the half off lap dances. Is it worth it to have a private dance and what happens in those rooms?I find it a good test to screen new talent. Poor performance in the lap dance room = poor performance arriba.

This is a YMMV situation in that you can test a girl's limits in private for $11.

Not being a young man and of limited stamina, it is important that I choose wisely.

OTOH, everything that is available arriba I have received in the VIP rooms.

Example: It was mid-afternoon and I had checked out of my room. I was not anxious to return to the hotel short term, so I took a girl to a VIP room, where we did everything we would have in the room.

Another time the girl did not want to go to my room, but the mesero assured me that she was a great time and directed me to a VIP room. I thought it would be a dull experience, but she was great as advertised; her service exceeded expectations. I don't know what her issue was about going to the hotel, but she spent a good amount of time dancing on me to the music, watching the floor activity, and it could be that she did not want someone to know how many times she went arriba. (She was very pretty. Wish I could remember her name).

[Simmer]

Lap dance room is hit or miss. 2/3rd time the girl will act like you have the flu. And be bugging you about sex upstairs. Some girls will do a normal American lap dance and let you duck nipple grab tits azz. Usually I regret choosing this option.So did I get lucky with just paying $9 for a lady drink and have her lapdance over me in full view of the bar and barmen, hands down top, fingering crotch (outside of panties but I suspect I could have gone further)? We did go next door after but she only suggested it after the dance, not during or before.

[Dcrist0527]

I think that's fairly standard, depending on the girl. From my time spent there, junior stays covered in the bars. Junior comes out to play in the lapdance rooms.


So did I get lucky with just paying $9 for a lady drink and have her lapdance over me in full view of the bar and barmen, hands down top, fingering crotch (outside of panties but I suspect I could have gone further)? We did go next door after but she only suggested it after the dance, not during or before.

[SamWise1]

I second that, also 7 bucks for one beer? I don't even pay that much for a beer in the US. Some people pay what they are told to pay with no if's, and's or but's. Price sounds very inflated.I am sorry. I think I paid 4 bucks for regular beer. Not sure how much was in pesos. 7 bucks I paid for one of wiskey I got.

My whole point was I did not want to change to pesos as did not know how much I will spend and did not wanted pesos with me when I go back. I agree I would have spent some more but I did not wanted hassle of changing back and forth for my few days there.

[SamWise1]

I find it a good test to screen new talent. Poor performance in the lap dance room = poor performance arriba.

This is a YMMV situation in that you can test a girl's limits in private for $11.

Not being a young man and of limited stamina, it is important that I choose wisely.

OTOH, everything that is available arriba I have received in the VIP rooms.

Example: It was mid-afternoon and I had checked out of my room. I was not anxious to return to the hotel short term, so I took a girl to a VIP room, where we did everything we would have in the room.

Another time the girl did not want to go to my room, but the mesero assured me that she was a great time and directed me to a VIP room. I thought it would be a dull experience, but she was great as advertised; her service exceeded expectations. I don't know what her issue was about going to the hotel, but she spent a good amount of time dancing on me to the music, watching the floor activity, and it could be that she did not want someone to know how many times she went arriba. (She was very pretty. Wish I could remember her name).Exactly my point. Its good way to try the girl out. If she is not giving you access the way you want you can say good bye.

[MexiMonger]

Make your reservation for the type of room as far in advance as possible.

When you check in, make the request while sliding a $5 tip across to the clerk.

Overall, the upper floors are better. Note that the elevator goes just to the 6th floor. If you have any trouble walking or with stairs, you might decline a 7 or 8.

If you ask for a Master or Jacuzzi room in the new section, you will probably get it.

I am guessing, but when they finished the new section (or at least made it habitable) they started using some of the older rooms they let out for the night for short-term rooms.Hello,

I didn't quite understand.

I have booked a room for 3 nights in September. "Habitacion Doble de lujo" . Will I get a good room?

I have only been to HK once and had one chica upstairs but it was in a very ugly room towards the alley and it also said Cascadas, I paid for half an hour. I'm very afraid they will try and give me one of those and I Also read that this happened to someone here. This would be awful!

Another question: Will alley girls go to Cascadas? Do all Cascadas room have security boxes?

Thank you for your information. I have read a good amount of info in this thread but the information changes as time goes by so I figured I could ask you guys, the experts, for an update.

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I think that's fairly standard, depending on the girl. From my time spent there, junior stays covered in the bars. Junior comes out to play in the lapdance rooms.Maybe I'm confused. I saw reports of $20 lapdances not being worth it, but I got a lapdance for free. However, maybe the definition of lapdance varies here! I assumed a lapdance southern California style, ie little to no clothes, nearly full or full touch, but no direct sexual stimulation beyond hands-free rubbing. Is a $20 lapdance here in a VIP room "anything goes", including penetration / BJ / he?