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Is there a way to circumvent buying drinks for the ladies in the clubs?
When I travel to Thailand and frequent the agogo bars, I would decline when the girls ask for lady drinks. Instead, I would reach into my pocket and peel off a 100 Baht note and slip it to her and whisper "No more lady drinks". The girls usually happily accept and don't feel the need to hound me for drinks for awhile since its a win-win for both of us. Would this same technique work in the Tijuana clubs?
ScatManDoo
06-17-18, 04:11
Is there a way to circumvent buying drinks for the ladies in the clubs?
When I travel to Thailand and frequent the agogo bars, I would decline when the girls ask for lady drinks. Instead, I would reach into my pocket and peel off a 100 Baht note and slip it to her and whisper "No more lady drinks". The girls usually happily accept and don't feel the need to hound me for drinks for awhile since its a win-win for both of us. Would this same technique work in the Tijuana clubs?I assume you are asking if the chica will stay sitting with you and talking with you for an extended period of time without ordering ficha drinks from the bar. Only modest direct tipping to the chica.
The answer is this technique will face difficulties in Tijuana bars. The meseros and bar managers don't want their chicas working while not generating revenue for the bar. Expect a lot of hassle trying to employ this technique in Tijuana.
This can be done occasionally but not often and if the waiter sees he will be pissed and take her to a new guy anyway. I'll usually let a girl talk to me for free for 5 minutes then tip her and tell her to go make some money because you get stink eye every ten seconds from the waiters for not buying her a drink.Perhaps if it included tipping the meseros his $1 when he comes ask for drinks it might work. Everyone wins except the club and they make enough already.
Tijuana is not the place to go to change the rules and work the system. Just pay the drink price if you want company.Start off with a tip, then buy her 1 drink and continue, perhaps with a few more trips. They have free lap dance coupons, use them to get a free lap dance -- best way to extend your mileage and will give you enough time and opportunity to see if you want to go arriba!
If Starbucks had two guys arrested for sitting around and not buying drinks in their restaurant, I wonder what will happen to you in the Tijuana clubs? Let us know what happens to you when you copy these guys and do not buy drinks.
P.S. I hear the Tijuana jail is not a classy hotel experience, lots of cockroaches crawling over everything. Let us here at ISG know what it is like when you get out.
I assume you are asking if the chica will stay sitting with you and talking with you for an extended period of time without ordering ficha drinks from the bar. Only modest direct tipping to the chica.
The answer is this technique will face difficulties in Tijuana bars. The meseros and bar managers don't want their chicas working while not generating revenue for the bar. Expect a lot of hassle trying to employ this technique in Tijuana.
Dcrist0527
06-17-18, 22:24
Safe to say YMMV.
There are lap dances that are given with a ficha, for example or even just chatting, depending on the girl, in the bars. In my experience, that's not an anything goes situation. I've heard of guys getting a little overzealous and end up being tossed out.
The lap dances I'm talking about are $11 on Monday or Tuesday with a coupon, $22 other days. That'll buy you about 10 minutes in a locked booth with a decent amount of room. I would definitely NOT guarantee an anything goes situation. But I've had all but FS in there. I do not (should not and probably could not) "finish" the deal in there. But as others have said, a great way to interview a chica. A ficha is $9. You'll know MUCH more about her for an additional $2. Some will hard sell you on arriba. The smart ones have an opportunity to prove you can't say no. LOL.
Maybe I'm confused. I saw reports of $20 lapdances not being worth it, but I got a lapdance for free. However, maybe the definition of lapdance varies here! I assumed a lapdance southern California style, ie little to no clothes, nearly full or full touch, but no direct sexual stimulation beyond hands-free rubbing. Is a $20 lapdance here in a VIP room "anything goes", including penetration / BJ / he?
Start off with a tip, then buy her 1 drink and continue, perhaps with a few more trips. They have free lap dance coupons, use them to get a free lap dance -- best way to extend your mileage and will give you enough time and opportunity to see if you want to go arriba!
There are lap dances that are given with a ficha, for example or even just chatting, depending on the girl, in the bars. In my experience, that's not an anything goes situation. I've heard of guys getting a little overzealous and end up being tossed out.
The lap dances I'm talking about are $11 on Monday or Tuesday with a coupon, $22 other days. That'll buy you about 10 minutes in a locked booth with a decent amount of room. I would definitely NOT guarantee an anything goes situation. But I've had all but FS in there. I do not (should not and probably could not) "finish" the deal in there. But as others have said, a great way to interview a chica. A ficha is $9. You'll know MUCH more about her for an additional $2. Some will hard sell you on arriba. The smart ones have an opportunity to prove you can't say no. LOL.Thanks. Buying the lap dances instead for a few additional dollars definitely seems like the smart way to go.
UltraHappy
06-18-18, 00:29
If Starbucks had two guys arrested for sitting around and not buying drinks in their restaurant, I wonder what will happen to you in the Tijuana clubs? Let us know what happens to you when you copy these guys and do not buy drinks.
P.S. I hear the Tijuana jail is not a classy hotel experience, lots of cockroaches crawling over everything. Let us here at ISG know what it is like when you get out.No obligation to buy a drink if you do not sit down with a girl. If you are walking around or just standing in HK, then the waiters cannot force you to buy a drink.
I don't drink alcohol, so I usually avoid buying drinks in HK when I can. I am there for the girls, not the drinks.
No obligation to buy a drink if you do not sit down with a girl. If you are walking around or just standing in HK, then the waiters cannot force you to buy a drink.Meseros cannot force you to buy a drink, but security and management can. First and foremost, HK is a business. I've seen several times over the years where non buying looky loos were tossed out the club.
I've also seen dudes just buy a bottle of water just to avoid the conflicts. Lately, I've seen this one dude that picks up an empty beer bottle and hangs on to it for dear life.
DannyDavis
06-18-18, 01:31
No obligation to buy a drink if you do not sit down with a girl. If you are walking around or just standing in HK, then the waiters cannot force you to buy a drink.
I don't drink alcohol, so I usually avoid buying drinks in HK when I can. I am there for the girls, not the drinks.This brings up a great question for me. I NEVER venture into the clubs because invariably I am accosted by a woman that I don't find attractive. Within seconds, a waiter pounces, and the fugly chick sitting next to me orders an $8 drink. I'm put in the awkward position of saying, no so here's my question.
How can I get everyone to fuck off until I find a girl I'm actually interested in?
This brings up a great question for me. I NEVER venture into the clubs because invariably I am accosted by a woman that I don't find attractive. Within seconds, a waiter pounces, and the fugly chick sitting next to me orders an $8 drink. I'm put in the awkward position of saying, no so here's my question.
How can I get everyone to fuck off until I find a girl I'm actually interested in?Easy. You treat hired help like hired help until they get the picture. If they open up a chica drink without your permission get up and walk. Hopefully it comes out of the waiter's salary.
The clubs are not set up for you to enjoy. They are money leeches that look for desperate guys with a weakness of not being able to say NO.
Say NO.
Captain Solo
06-18-18, 03:17
To DannyDavis.
Week nights HK does not require buying a drink at the door. You can enter and hang out all night without buying anything, but it's fair to tip girls if you talk to them, touch them, squeeze their bouncy boobs, grope their hot crotches or watch their strip performances. Most HK strippers make only a few dollars per round. It looks pathetic. Chicago's strippers fare even worse, most times not making any propinas.
Lots of people will try to sell you many things in the club, drinks, girls, fichas, lap dances, propinas, snacks, flowers, pictures, massages etc. If you don't want to buy, just shake your head lightly. You don't have to come up with any excuse or even talk to them. They would go away. It makes the rejection quick and easy.
Many girls would cruise the club, thrust their boobs into your face, slap them around and ask for propinas. I only tip hot girls because they will remember who tipped them and come again next time. Rejected Girls remember and never come back to the same guys.
Otherwise clients are the bosses in the club. Don't let anyone hassle you to buy anything you don't want. Don't pay for anything you did not order. Go to the managers and complain if anyone hassles you. Every worker in HK are trained to work under tight discipline. They would be penalized or fired if found errant.
SallySally
06-18-18, 04:10
Avoid Alexa at HK if you can.
Description: 5'4", braces, darker skinned.
We agreed on $75+tip equivalent in pesos in the club to go arriba, however when we went upstairs and the deed was done she kept asking for a tip, so I gave her 100 peso tip. But she wouldn't leave, and kept asking for more tip and said it was for her child. Okay so I give her 100 more pesos to leave. So then she doesn't leave again and keeps asking for a tip, and then says to me "you told me you would give me 75 + 25 tip", which I didn't I just told her 75 + tip. At this point I was getting bad vibes from her and felt like she was the type of girl to report me to HK security or something. I didn't want to get my ass beat so I decided my safety wasn't worth the $20, so the total came out to 400 peso tip.
Her performance was actually quite good, with a wet sloppy CBJ, but she licked the ball sack too.
In retrospect I think she is on bad terms with the hotel staff, because she was avoiding them when we walked into the hotel from the beginning. Not sure why she would be on bad terms, also she had her own condoms, which HK girls don't usually have. Either way thought I'd share for you guys.
How can I get everyone to fuck off until I find a girl I'm actually interested in?Artist is right, Danny. My approach is to walk around quickly, tip any big boobs they let me feel up, tell the meseros no and only sit down with a girl to interview her for a possible arriba. You do not have to buy the girls a drink unless you want to. I rarely buy the girls a drink unless I have one myself and I am interviewing her to go upstairs.
Safe to say YMMV.
There are lap dances that are given with a ficha, for example or even just chatting, depending on the girl, in the bars. In my experience, that's not an anything goes situation. I've heard of guys getting a little overzealous and end up being tossed out.
The lap dances I'm talking about are $11 on Monday or Tuesday with a coupon, $22 other days. That'll buy you about 10 minutes in a locked booth with a decent amount of room. I would definitely NOT guarantee an anything goes situation. But I've had all but FS in there. I do not (should not and probably could not) "finish" the deal in there. But as others have said, a great way to interview a chica. A ficha is $9. You'll know MUCH more about her for an additional $2. Some will hard sell you on arriba. The smart ones have an opportunity to prove you can't say no. LOL.Ah, the locked booth is the bit I was missing. Thanks.
This brings up a great question for me. I NEVER venture into the clubs because invariably I am accosted by a woman that I don't find attractive. Within seconds, a waiter pounces, and the fugly chick sitting next to me orders an $8 drink. I'm put in the awkward position of saying, no so here's my question.
How can I get everyone to fuck off until I find a girl I'm actually interested in?Don't sit down. I was never hassled until I sat down, then it happened fairly fast. A smile, a "no, thank you", a turn back to the action, then they take the hint usually.
Of course, the opposite works too. Want another beer? Sit down with no beer bottles near you!
PatmarBeleza1
06-19-18, 21:19
I stayed for the Monday night single which is 11 usd with VIP and a 30 usd deposit.
Always lots of good new talent.
Sound Stream #2
06-24-18, 08:13
The website says they have WIFI at Cascada Hotel. How reliable is it? I really need internet at all times. Is WIFI also accessible inside the HK club?
Is there any recommendations for a good clean room with two separate beds, and a Jacuzzi? I don't feel like wasting time traveling back and forth, so I have more time for fun. I can handle noise.
Just have a preference for clean rooms that are not ghetto looking if given the choice. Do they provide discounts with VIP card for the Master Suite and above, or is there a limit to which rooms it can apply to?
The website says they have WIFI at Cascada Hotel. How reliable is it? I really need internet at all times. Is WIFI also accessible inside the HK club?
Is there any recommendations for a good clean room with two separate beds, and a Jacuzzi? I don't feel like wasting time traveling back and forth, so I have more time for fun. I can handle noise.
Just have a preference for clean rooms that are not ghetto looking if given the choice. Do they provide discounts with VIP card for the Master Suite and above, or is there a limit to which rooms it can apply to?Wifi is pretty decent, especially in the rooms on the South side (front reception) on all floors. Wifi is weak in the area near Azul. Avoid rooms like 218, 219 right next to Azul: Weak WiFi and all night traffic of folks in Azul / rear lobby. Rooms are decent and the VIP 80% discount applies to all types of rooms.
ScatManDoo
06-24-18, 09:39
The website says they have WIFI at Cascada Hotel. How reliable is it? I really need internet at all times. Is WIFI also accessible inside the HK club?
Is there any recommendations for a good clean room with two separate beds, and a Jacuzzi? I don't feel like wasting time traveling back and forth, so I have more time for fun. I can handle noise.
Just have a preference for clean rooms that are not ghetto looking if given the choice. Do they provide discounts with VIP card for the Master Suite and above, or is there a limit to which rooms it can apply to?If you get the HK VIP card I have a recommendation for you. Try to reserve room #59 at the Rizo de Oro located across the street from Hong Kong and Cascades. Rizo de Oro accepts the HK VIP card hotel discounts of 80% off on Mondays and Tuesdays and 20% off the other five nights of the week.
Room #59 is the only hotel room that I know of in LZ with a separate alcove containing a queen-sized bed, small table and chairs and a TV. This alcove is a part of RdeO's variation of a Master Suite containing a King-Sized canopied bed with two-person hot tub in the main room. Separate Armoires near each bed.
Regular price without discounts IIRC is $115 on weekends and $80 on week nights.
As I recall, I got decent WiFi when I stayed in that room two years ago.
Sound Stream #2
06-24-18, 11:28
As far as I know anything goes with the fichas. It's up to the girls what they want to do while sitting with you or on you hehe.
A few weeks back Melissa was drinking a ficha with me on the balcony. She was on my lap grinding while my hands were squeezing her boobs and groping her hot crotch for about half hour. Nobody hassled us. I also see girls do full-blown lap dances with guys in the booths on the main floor all the time. Did not see any interference by HK workers.
One of the best lap dance was given at the main stage by the late Ginger, allegedly Sasha's half sister. She was straddling an old Mexican guy, dry fucking him in cow girl position. Her upper body was arching back, swaying, swiveling to the music, her arms and her hair were flowing all around while she was laughing, giggling in her sexual ecstasy. Damn, I wish my GF knows how to do sexy, erotic lap dance like that.
It's possible the HK may have tightened its procedures to push the $21 lap dances over the $9 fichas. But it's really up to the girls how much intimate contacts they want to give you in public. Doesn't hurt to try to get the girls to dry fuck for a ficha. Find corners on 2nd or 3rd floor where there is less surveillance. If HK sends someone to stop you, just stop, say 'lo siento' then resume your positions when they are gone hehe.
The lap dance booths inside Miami is cramp and dark. You can enjoy the girls' beauty and sexiness far better in the club.I was groping and getting very intimate in a very open spot with the HK workers watching. They did nothing to stop me. Like Captain said, what the girl does with the fichas is really up to her. If they like you, they open up more. They even take out their boobs for me to suck on and play with, and kiss me back. I don't speak any Spanish, so I have no clue how I get rapport with them to make them want to stay with me, except through my body language and calm attitude. I'm warm, lovey dovy, and teasing with them, and they seem to like that. I think it also helps that I feel and act like an attractive guy. In the club, I feel even more so, which is the draw of HK.
DannyDavis
06-24-18, 16:23
The website says they have WIFI at Cascada Hotel. How reliable is it? I really need internet at all times. Is WIFI also accessible inside the HK club?
Is there any recommendations for a good clean room with two separate beds, and a Jacuzzi? I don't feel like wasting time traveling back and forth, so I have more time for fun. I can handle noise.
Just have a preference for clean rooms that are not ghetto looking if given the choice. Do they provide discounts with VIP card for the Master Suite and above, or is there a limit to which rooms it can apply to?I'm going to answer with the caveat that my experience with Cascadas is somewhat limited. I bought the VIP membership, super excited to enjoy the upgraded rooms at inexpensive prices. I booked a reservation online, but when I arrived at the hotel, they did not have my reservation and they said that they they were sold out of ALL the premium rooms. I would have taken any of them, even top of the line, because I was looking for a great experience. I settled for a standard room which was deplorable, only a half step above the three dollar rooms you find down on the street. I was pissed, and decided that my VIP card was a scam. I'd love to hear from others on this topic. I can't vouch for the wifi. It was working when I was there, but that doesn't necessarily mean you can rely on it.
Captain Solo
06-24-18, 17:14
To Sound Stream 2.
I brought my lap top to Cascada but never once turned it on due to too much partying and actions with the girls on weekend. Cascada has WIFI routers installed on each floor, so it should be reliable. Never saw any guy sit around surfing anywhere in Cascada or Azul. However, the girls are always using their iPhone in HK, so internet service is available through their phones or WIFI. Tmobile has voice and data coverage in Mexico. You may want to buy a pay as you go SIM from Tmobile or TELCEL for internet access.
Cascada has double rooms with 2 beds, some equipped with strippers' poles for entertainment, but not sure about double rooms with jacuzzi. The rooms are nice, clean, quiet enough and very sexy with the soft red mood light for sex. VIP's 80% Monday and Tuesday discount applies to all rooms, so you can have a single room for $11, double room $14, jacuzzi room $18 and a Master suite $20, damn good deals. The noisy brass band was no longer playing as of last week, so nights are quiet, but HK chicas are still calling out to each other and talking loud in the hallway. Avoid taking rooms on 2nd floor as they are used for short time boom booms and may feel well-worn.
Cascada is the most convenient place to stay in Tijuana for mongers to maximize their use of time. You can party with girls in HK all night and take 3, 4 or more girls to your room for sex, as your endurance allows. I keep walking in and out with girls all night, the Cascada reception guys always smile slyly when I walk past them hehe.
The website says they have WIFI at Cascada Hotel. How reliable is it? I really need internet at all times. Is WIFI also accessible inside the HK club?
Is there any recommendations for a good clean room with two separate beds, and a Jacuzzi? I don't feel like wasting time traveling back and forth, so I have more time for fun. I can handle noise.
Just have a preference for clean rooms that are not ghetto looking if given the choice. Do they provide discounts with VIP card for the Master Suite and above, or is there a limit to which rooms it can apply to?
DrMcNaughty
06-24-18, 20:21
Hi.
Yes, some of new master suites have 2 queens jacuzzi, pole as well as a couch.
To Sound Stream 2.
I brought my lap top to Cascada but never once turned it on due to too much partying and actions with the girls on weekend. Cascada has WIFI routers installed on each floor, so it should be reliable. Never saw any guy sit around surfing anywhere in Cascada or Azul. However, the girls are always using their iPhone in HK, so internet service is available through their phones or WIFI. Tmobile has voice and data coverage in Mexico. You may want to buy a pay as you go SIM from Tmobile or TELCEL for internet access.
Cascada has double rooms with 2 beds, some equipped with strippers' poles for entertainment, but not sure about double rooms with jacuzzi. The rooms are nice, clean, quiet enough and very sexy with the soft red mood light for sex.
Still have several weeks before my next trip to Tijuana but was curious if anyone could tell me the current price for drinks (both beers for me and fichas for the girls) in pesos?
Still have several weeks before my next trip to Tijuana but was curious if anyone could tell me the current price for drinks (both beers for me and fichas for the girls) in pesos?Depends on the rate HK is using. If they are still using 17 to 1, then regular beer / drinks are 4 bucks /68 pesos, and fichas are 9 bucks /153 pesos.
Captain Solo
06-26-18, 06:22
To Kashmoney.
HK and Cascada use 17:1 exchange rate.
After 8 PM, local beers, XX, Corona, Sol, Tecate etc, are $4 or 68 pesos; premium beers, Heineken, Bohemia etc, are $5 or 85 pesos. Before 8 PM all drinks are $1 less. There is a menu with prices for a couple dozens brands of liquors, shot or bottle, posted at the bar.
Fichas for the girls are are $9 or 153 pesos. For each service tip the meseros $1 or 20 pesos.
Still have several weeks before my next trip to Tijuana but was curious if anyone could tell me the current price for drinks (both beers for me and fichas for the girls) in pesos?
StripperMan
06-26-18, 18:37
To Kashmoney.
HK and Cascada use 17:1 exchange rate.
After 8 PM, local beers, XX, Corona, Sol, Tecate etc, are $4 or 68 pesos; premium beers, Heineken, Bohemia etc, are $5 or 85 pesos. Before 8 PM all drinks are $1 less. There is a menu with prices for a couple dozens brands of liquors, shot or bottle, posted at the bar.
Fichas for the girls are are $9 or 153 pesos. For each service tip the meseros $1 or 20 pesos.
Still have several weeks before my next trip to Tijuana but was curious if anyone could tell me the current price for drinks (both beers for me and fichas for the girls) in pesos?Beers at HK are less before 8 pm! . I guess the last few times I've been there the meseros & bartenders have just pocketed that extra buck.
MongerHunger
06-27-18, 01:12
Beers at HK are less before 8 pm! . I guess the last few times I've been there the meseros & bartenders have just pocketed that extra buck.As far as I know those beers are $4 US before 8 pm. I never seen the prices at $3 US on the price board before 8 pm. Always $4. I don't think they are pocketing any change.
ScatManDoo
06-27-18, 06:04
As far as I know those beers are $4 US before 8 pm. I never seen the prices at $3 US on the price board before 8 pm. Always $4. I don't think they are pocketing any change.You are right MongerHunger. Stripperman was just a victim of misinformation from the board's #1 source of misinformation.
Captain Solo
06-28-18, 00:31
I only report facts. I may be wrong, but that's what happened to me.
$1 is a small difference per beer, but some ugly, illiterate old fart will use it to smear his friend.
Be careful with jealous, illiterate old guys.
Beers at HK are less before 8 pm! . I guess the last few times I've been there the meseros & bartenders have just pocketed that extra buck.I read his post twice. No mention of a cheaper price before 8 pm. He only list prices after 8 pm. Maybe he doesn't go before 8 pm. Idk but there no mention of a discount prior to 8 pm.
As far as I know those beers are $4 US before 8 pm. I never seen the prices at $3 US on the price board before 8 pm. Always $4. I don't think they are pocketing any change.Let me help with the clear facts.
Regular beers and house mixed drinks are always 4 bucks. Before 8, after 8, and between!
The only time you will have to spend 5 bucks on a beer is if you are entering HK after certain hours and you will pay 5 bucks for that beer at the door.
But in the club, the price is always 4 bucks.
Baxter Slade
06-28-18, 05:25
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Captain Solo
06-28-18, 05:37
Be careful what beers you are talking about.
Premium and imported beers like Bohemia, Heineken, will cost $1 more in HK than local beers, like XX, Tecate, Indio ect.
ScatManDoo
06-28-18, 20:12
Still have several weeks before my next trip to Tijuana but was curious if anyone could tell me the current price for drinks (both beers for me and fichas for the girls) in pesos?For the correct answer to your questions, read what Tomjackin wrote, not the 'always off' guy posting from his parent's basement.
No one mentioned premium and imported beers!
Regular beers = 4 dollars all the time in the club.
MongerHunger
06-29-18, 01:14
I read his post twice. No mention of a cheaper price before 8 pm. He only list prices after 8 pm. Maybe he doesn't go before 8 pm. Idk but there no mention of a discount prior to 8 pm.Go back and read it for a third time. You're missing something but he already acknowledged it. I'm sure it's all cleared up and the correct info is out there now.
DrMcNaughty
06-29-18, 01:30
Talk to Simon in Azul he will hook you up with the flavor you're wanting. Many excellent craft breweries in Tijuana. Azul usually has some daily or happy hour deal. The deck is a great place to kick back observe the alley shananigans and sip a coolie!
Know if any ciders like blackberry or apple are available? Thanks for the info that there are happy hour deals.
Talk to Simon in Azul he will hook you up with the flavor you're wanting. Many excellent craft breweries in Tijuana. Azul usually has some daily or happy hour deal. The deck is a great place to kick back observe the alley shananigans and sip a coolie!
Captain Solo
06-29-18, 14:35
To DrMcnaughty.
Just curious, what are Azul's Happy hour deals?
Which craft beers and how much they charge?
I was having a 2-4-1 steak dinner with my wingman on Azul's balcony. 2 rib eyes served on hot plates, each over 1 pound perfectly grilled to rare with all the trimmings, costed only $11 or 187 pesos with the coupon, what a great deal.
I asked Azul's waiter for their wine prices. Despite having wine bottles hung on the wall, he had no wine list or details about the types and brands. He said a glass of red wine would cost 150 pesos. WHAT? I asked him again, he again confirmed 150 pesos a glass. Mr. Pampas only charged 300 pesos for a full bottle of good Chilean reserva wine. There had to be an error in Azul's price, or more likely they had no wine and had to buy from HK, paying inflated prices. Any way I ordered a Bohemia beer and he said 50 pesos, which would be Azul's prices. HK's price would be 85 pesos for Bohemia.
To complicate prices further, Azul's 2-4-1 dinner deals have to be consumed in HK, with drinks bought from HK's bar, not Azul's. Normally if you dine with HK's chicas in Azul, the drinks and fichas have to be ordered with HK's meseros at higher prices. We were sitting on the balcony with cool night breeze, enjoying the view full of sexy activities on the street below. My wingman did not want to eat with the deafening noise in the club. Azul's manager was nice enough to make a long phone call to HK's owner for a waiver. Finally we got the 2 steak dinners we wanted for $11 on Azul's balcony.
We ordered filet mignons from Azul's menu; they served big rib eyes instead, but we did not give them a hard time. The steaks were perfectly grilled to rare, tender and tasteful in Azul, vs. Always burned to shoe leather when ordered from HK. Steaks are not on HK meseros' snack menu, but ask for Santiago, the young mesero with a Mohawk hair. He's a good, honest guy, speaks English and can mange the system to get you 2 steaks for $11.
Got to admit, business guys in La Zona have good customer service and are very reasonable to deal with, completely opposite the old farts in this site who would pick nits, make false accusations to smear their friends, and try to puff themselves up every little chance they have.
I've been to Tijuana numerous times, but I have no found out a sensible and reliable way to stop the waiters from hounding me for a lady drink / ficha. Yes that's how the club makes money, that's how the girl makes money, that's how the waiter make tip, but I'm not a fucken charity so when I buy fichas (which I often do), I just want to make it count. I don't want to just pull a random girl and find out she sucks at her job, and it's always funner when I have a connection with the girl.
So what's the best way to get a minute or two with a girl to see if there's a potential connection, before buying a lady drink. Should I tip the waiter a buck and ask for a minute or two. Or just tell them I need a minute. What route works the best? Looking for that fine line. Not to appear bossy. Cheap. Or otherwise compromising my own fun.
MongerHunger
06-30-18, 01:13
Talk to Simon in Azul he will hook you up with the flavor you're wanting. Many excellent craft breweries in Tijuana. Azul usually has some daily or happy hour deal. The deck is a great place to kick back observe the alley shananigans and sip a coolie!Never tried the craft beers in Tijuana but would like to. I like trying crafts when traveling around the US. The local micro breweries can produce some damn good brews. Do you know any names of the craft beers or can recommend some at Azul?
Baxter Slade
06-30-18, 04:17
I've been to Tijuana numerous times, but I have no found out a sensible and reliable way to stop the waiters from hounding me for a lady drink / ficha. Yes that's how the club makes money, that's how the girl makes money, that's how the waiter make tip, but I'm not a fucken charity so when I buy fichas (which I often do), I just want to make it count. I don't want to just pull a random girl and find out she sucks at her job, and it's always funner when I have a connection with the girl.
So what's the best way to get a minute or two with a girl to see if there's a potential connection, before buying a lady drink. Should I tip the waiter a buck and ask for a minute or two. Or just tell them I need a minute. What route works the best? Looking for that fine line. Not to appear bossy. Cheap. Or otherwise compromising my own fun.Well if your planning on being there on a somewhat regular basis. Best thing is to find a mesero who you can work with. He needs to understand a few things. He needs to be on your side. And he needs to keep the other meseros away, he needs to wait for you to order the next ladies drink and not come around every 5 minutes picking up her bottle to encourage her to drink faster. Of course for this to work he has to understand the rules. And that is usually acomplished with a generous tip. In the long run it will be to your benefit. Of course if your schedule does not match his you have to start all over with the next one.
I've been to Tijuana numerous times, but I have no found out a sensible and reliable way to stop the waiters from hounding me for a lady drink / ficha. Yes that's how the club makes money, that's how the girl makes money, that's how the waiter make tip, but I'm not a fucken charity so when I buy fichas (which I often do), I just want to make it count. I don't want to just pull a random girl and find out she sucks at her job, and it's always funner when I have a connection with the girl.
So what's the best way to get a minute or two with a girl to see if there's a potential connection, before buying a lady drink. Should I tip the waiter a buck and ask for a minute or two. Or just tell them I need a minute. What route works the best? Looking for that fine line. Not to appear bossy. Cheap. Or otherwise compromising my own fun.Control the meseros and the chicas! Do not let them control you! Wave them off; you are the customer!
Captain Solo
06-30-18, 15:00
To Mushuu09.
If you tip the meseros to stop annoying you, they would all come over and annoy you every 2 minutes to get their tips.
You can tip the girls $1 and talk to them, or grope and check their assets for a few minutes without buying fichas. If the meseros ask, just shake your head. It's up to the girls how long she want to stay with you.
The quickest way to interview a girl for good sessions is to squeeze a $1 into her bras and squeeze her boobs, then pull her closer to you and try to plant a kiss on her lips. If she smiles, kisses back, or at least appears neutral and not pulls away hard, she would likely enjoy your intimate company and give you hot sex in bed. The girls usually give me wet kisses back, but remember a lot of those girls are young and tender, coming from prudish families, genuinely afraid of being pawed by big, hairy Gringos. They like guys who appear nice, fun, gentle.
Well yea, that was my question. How to better control them. Waving them off will buy you maybe 30 sec at best, and then they swarm again.
Control the meseros and the chicas! Do not let them control you! Wave them off; you are the customer!
DrMcNaughty
06-30-18, 17:10
The fridge on left at Azul has a nice selection on local craft bottles. The pale ale on bottom with green label is my favorite I think its Insurgente. I don't remember the prices, I have not been there since March. Norte Brewing Co, Insurgente, Border Psycho Tres Fuegos, Baja Brew Lab and Azteca Brewing are all excellent. Norte is on the 4th floor of parking garage and has a killer view. All of them a short cab ride away. A few a short walk from HK.
I've never had a cider down there.
Ayyyy Captain I've had a few excellent steaks in Azul, ribeye and and 1/2 kilo porterhouse. Have you checked out Valle de Guadalupe? If you're into wine and epic food its world class and just hitting the radar in past year or two. One of my sexy Mexi HK girls suggested we go there for a little getaway. I highly suggest checking la ruta del vino out in the VDG. Deckmans at Mogor Ranch deckmans.com forking gastro heaven! We stayed at Encuentro Guadalupe, style factor 110% . A couple nights in VDG doesn't break the bank!
No never tried any ciders around Tijuana.
Member #4555
06-30-18, 22:03
said "Normally if you dine with HK's chicas in Azul, the drinks and fichas have to be ordered with HK's meseros at higher prices.Not true at all. I've eaten at Azul countless times with HK chicas and have always used Azul's waiters and paid Azul's prices. Not once have I had to use HK's meseros and pay HK's prices while eating at Azul with a chica from HK.
DramaFree11
06-30-18, 23:24
Control the meseros and the chicas! Do not let them control you! Wave them off; you are the customer!
Easy solution. Just go directly to the bar. I do it upstairs no issues, became friends with the bartender, way better experience.
MexiMonger
07-01-18, 04:41
To Sound Stream 2.
I brought my lap top to Cascada but never once turned it on due to too much partying and actions with the girls on weekend. Cascada has WIFI routers installed on each floor, so it should be reliable. Never saw any guy sit around surfing anywhere in Cascada or Azul. However, the girls are always using their iPhone in HK, so internet service is available through their phones or WIFI. Tmobile has voice and data coverage in Mexico. You may want to buy a pay as you go SIM from Tmobile or TELCEL for internet access.
Cascada has double rooms with 2 beds, some equipped with strippers' poles for entertainment, but not sure about double rooms with jacuzzi. The rooms are nice, clean, quiet enough and very sexy with the soft red mood light for sex. VIP's 80% Monday and Tuesday discount applies to all rooms, so you can have a single room for $11, double room $14, jacuzzi room $18 and a Master suite $20, damn good deals. The noisy brass band was no longer playing as of last week, so nights are quiet, but HK chicas are still calling out to each other and talking loud in the hallway. Avoid taking rooms on 2nd floor as they are used for short time boom booms and may feel well-worn.Hello Captain Solo,
How can I avoid second floor rooms? Or rooms that are used for short time sex? I will stay 4 days to fully monger those days. But I'm thinking of doing a little bit of tourism. Do they have a safe deposit box in the room? Or did you take all your money out every time you were at HK?
Do SW go into cascadas? Wich ones?
Thank you!
ScatManDoo
07-01-18, 16:34
Not true at all. I've eaten at Azul countless times with HK chicas and have always used Azul's waiters and paid Azul's prices. Not once have I had to use HK's meseros and pay HK's prices while eating at Azul with a chica from HK.I guess you haven't been suckered into believing and mindlessly broadcasting this nonsense: "Normally if you dine with HK's chicas in Azul, the drinks and fichas have to be ordered with HK's meseros at higher prices."
You know better, and now, thanks to you, another example of misinformation is exposed.
Dcrist0527
07-01-18, 19:59
Just a question. Anyone spent time with a chica at HK named Alcides? From Sinaloa. Really hoping to find her on my next visit. Just curious if others have had a great experience with her like I did.
Sound Stream #2
07-01-18, 21:09
Well yea, that was my question. How to better control them. Waving them off will buy you maybe 30 sec at best, and then they swarm again.I haven't encountered the swarm before. But I think it all comes to them sizing you up, and figuring out that you're too polite to say "no". People can't make you do anything you don't want to do. One lesson I learned in life is that people can only pick on you because you let them. You can be nice and firm at the same time. You just need to make it clear that, you don't need so many waiters, and want only one. Then choose one that looks less aggressive. Just keep making it clear that you only need 1 waiter, and they will eventually get the point. Don't be afraid to speak-up when you need to. And if they still don't get the point, just keep saying no, until they do. They will figure it out, and find someone else to target that is easier. Captain is super wise and correct. If you give them money just for "going away" that easily all the others will see it and get encouraged by the idea that they can do it too.
Captain Solo
07-01-18, 23:13
To Meximonger.
Rooms on 2nd floor are for short time boom booms the sheets and the floors may not be so clean. There are lots of people walking in and out all night; the chicas click clack with their high heels and tend to talk loud in the hallways. Some chicas scream and squeal loud in the climax, shaking the lobby, waking the whole neighborhood hehe. Besides, the club is only 1 floor below with loud thumping music all night. If they give you a room on 2nd floor, just decline it and ask for a room on 6th floor, where it is the quietest.
You have to ask for a room with the safe. If you will do some tourism, it may make sense to carry all your money, valuables and passport in a back pack for peace of mind. You can leave the lap top with Cascada's reception or HK; s front desk. I never lost anything in Cascada or in my car with valet parking.
The mini bar is a nuisance as the girls will take liberties with the expensive drinks, and upon check out, you have to wait up to half hour for them to inventory the mini bar for billing. I always tell them "no mini bar" so I can checkout quickly.
Almost all girls in the alley would go to Cascada, except those working in front of hotel Mini, Coahuila. El Porton and Garcia. Those hotels are in competition with HK / Cascada. They make the girls use their rooms exclusively or still have to pay if they walk off.
Captain Solo
07-02-18, 04:20
To Casal Leno.
The chicas are paid by HK to entertain guys and sell them fichas during their work hours. They cannot go anywhere or sit with guys for free without selling fichas on company's time. My wingman gave his favorite girl Azul's steak dinner at a table. She ate about half when Lola, the stage butch, came over and insisted my wingman buy her a ficha, or she would have to wrap up the food and eat it on her own time, which is only fair to the club. The mesros probably did not rat on her, but management watches activities in the club from numerous cameras and alert its staff for actions.
I feel embarrassed eating a big dinner when a lot of girls around me are physically hungry. The would look at the big, juicy steak with relish. A few would come over and sit with me, pretending to make sales calls, while I tenderly fed slices of beef to their lips. A few bites are OK, but sitting through the whole dinner without buying drinks and fichas for the club is a no, no.
Perhaps you took the girl on her off day? HK girls on their off days can party in HK, wearing yellow wrist bands just like other female guests, so meseros won't hound them to sell fichas.
MexiMonger
07-02-18, 07:26
To Meximonger.
Rooms on 2nd floor are for short time boom booms the sheets and the floors may not be so clean. There are lots of people walking in and out all night; the chicas click clack with their high heels and tend to talk loud in the hallways. Some chicas scream and squeal loud in the climax, shaking the lobby, waking the whole neighborhood hehe. Besides, the club is only 1 floor below with loud thumping music all night. If they give you a room on 2nd floor, just decline it and ask for a room on 6th floor, where it is the quietest.
You have to ask for a room with the safe. If you will do some tourism, it may make sense to carry all your money, valuables and passport in a back pack for peace of mind. You can leave the lap top with Cascada's reception or HK; s front desk. I never lost anything in Cascada or in my car with valet parking.
The mini bar is a nuisance as the girls will take liberties with the expensive drinks, and upon check out, you have to wait up to half hour for them to inventory the mini bar for billing. I always tell them "no mini bar" so I can checkout quickly..Amazing, thank you!
I will let you know, I might travel August / September.
DrMcNaughty
07-02-18, 14:05
I have never taken a HK girl to Azul while she was on a shift at HK. I have taken many when they are not on a shift and have always used Azul staff and and paid Azul menu prices for them. I have ordered food in HK for myself in HK and shared with HK lovely. Use some tact and get around paying ad on prices guys!
I guess you haven't been suckered into believing and mindlessly broadcasting this nonsense: "Normally if you dine with HK's chicas in Azul, the drinks and fichas have to be ordered with HK's meseros at higher prices."
You know better, and now, thanks to you, another example of misinformation is exposed.
Is it worth it to get the VIP card for one night. I come to Tijuana maybe once every 4-6 months. 20% off a room is $10 bucks off the cheapest. And it's easier to use uber from the border. So for one night is the VIP card beneficial or waste of money?
Maybe there's other benefits that are unmentioned?
Baxter Slade
07-03-18, 04:40
Is it worth it to get the VIP card for one night. I come to Tijuana maybe once every 4-6 months. 20% off a room is $10 bucks off the cheapest. And it's easier to use uber from the border. So for one night is the VIP card beneficial or waste of money?
Maybe there's other benefits that are unmentioned?From what you described. I would not spend 50 to save 10. The other perks you can find coupons online that will give you the same savings. The HK limo if its waiting at the border you can get a ride without a VIP card. They were even passing out free drink coupons at the border.
Now if you come more often or you are staying on a Monday or Tuesday the 80 % off your room would make it worth it.
The Tall Man
07-04-18, 23:21
I have never taken a HK girl to Azul while she was on a shift at HK. I have taken many when they are not on a shift and have always used Azul staff and and paid Azul menu prices for them. I have ordered food in HK for myself in HK and shared with HK lovely. Use some tact and get around paying ad on prices guys!Not recently but I have taken HK girls to Azul during their shift / work hours about at least a half dozen times, never an issue but then again this is Mexico mand things change frequently.
TTM.
Captain Solo
07-05-18, 03:02
To Dr. McNaughty.
I like the wine region and Ensenada, but I don't normally have lots of time to spend in Tijuana, and the draw is still the fun and sexy time with chicas in La Zona Norte.
I would drive down along the coastal road to Ensenada, spend a day checking out the town, but by 6 PM, I would head back to Tijuana to hang out in sexy strip clubs. Nightlife in Ensenada is pretty boring; chicas selection pretty poor.
There are 3 or 4 mariscos carts on the main road across from the malecon in Ensenada that offer very good seafood, but restaurants in Ensenada are not as good as Tijuana. Despite being a fisbhing port, seafood in the tourist zones are not fresh or good at all. It's hard to spend time going way out to the boondock just for a restaurant.
Ensenada may be fun if you take your favorite girls for short vacations with a lot of hot sex at night.
It's hot today. How is the air conditioning in Hong Kong and Cascadas? Ice cold I hope?
Tuesday: I had a date set up with a girl I met on tinder for July 4th, but then as I was sitting bored at work the brilliant idea of going down and buying the VIP card to get 80% of one of those suites came to me.
Booked the room at Cascadas, but no confirmation (is it too much to ask to have them simply have the rooms available real time so you know what's available and what isn't? Anyway, got home to see an email from them saying they are booked both there and Rizo de Oro. Shit. I hit up my tinder girl and ask if she can meet tonight if I come, she says yes but not till 8. Perfect! Now I have time to get my 2 free drinks, some girls, and then have a room that I can take the date back to if all goes well!
Crossed the border quickly, checked into Ticuan, and to Hong Kong around 7. I have until 9:30 until I meet my date so plenty of time. Survey the room and see a couple that catch my eye. Pull one over for a drink, but she seems disinterested and I get a starfish vibe. Feel her up to get something out of that drink and send her away. I buy a drink for another one who has a very nice ass, but as I am touching it I can feel those soft baby hairs. Wtf! Then she rubs her leg against mine and they are prickly. Alright baby chances are you have a hairy Bush. Later. I see one named Kendall that had what appeared to be a real set of DDs, turns out they were fake, but she had a great personality. She drank her drink slow, we talked, and started negotiating. CBJ of course (damn), but she ensured she'the be good. She asked for 100, I said 80, she countered with 90 where I said 80 and a 10 tip if she does as good as she said she would. Into the room and she says to get naked, so I obey. She starts to undress and I tell her I have to take some pictures of that bod. She says ok as long as no face. Took some pictures and a little video of her shaking it, show her to which she said she likes, and the cover is on and she is blowing me. Decent BJ skills, it would've probably been pretty decent without the cover. I offer DATY but she declines, and I am ready so she mounts me. CG, RCG, and she start to fatigue so we go doggie only she is shaking it using leverage from the bed. As I am leaned back at a 45 degree angle. I've honestly never did that position before and it was amazing. Coming close to finishing I ask her where she wants it and she says on her chest so I comply. $10 tip to her and it is now 9:00 so I do one lap to see if there is anyone I want to try and pound out quick (there isn't) and I leave.
Wednesday: So I got it in with my tinder date and she leaves around 9 am. I go back to the room and sleep till noon as I am pretty tired. Check out, and I have enough cash leftover for a session so I decide to hit Hong Kong on my way back to the border. Go in, get my BOGO drink offer and observe. Man, not much. The waiters keep bringing girls but I keep declining. As I finish my second beer I see one with a body I like. Au natural! Her name is Ariana and I buy her a drink to inspect the equipment. I am a fan, she says 80, I say ok and we are off. Wow all I can say Is that her set of DDs are definitely top 5 that I've encountered. Sesh was good, CBJ where she looked me in the eye (I kinda like that), to an assortment of positions (basically any position where I would be able to squeeze her chest, ha!) Finished and out!
Set up a date with tinder girl for today 7/7. So I guess I'm hitting up HK before meeting her ha! It isn't Thailand, but only being 30 minutes away, I will take it as a stopgap in between trips! I've been reporting to my two friends that went with me to Pattaya during my last trip and they want to go when they visit on 7/13. If that happens my visits to Tijuana will finally outweigh those to Thailand (3) LOL.
Was in Rizo last night and was dripping sweat. AC was blowing warm air. Notified the clerk in the morning and checked out. Try the AC when you check into your room cause it felt like a sauna. Luckily Caliente Sports book has the coldest AC in Zona Norte so you can watch sports and chill there if you can't get a room with a working AC.
It's hot today. How is the air conditioning in Hong Kong and Cascadas? Ice cold I hope?
Captain Solo
07-08-18, 04:47
HK's A / C was always inadequate for the weekend crowds, especially during hot months. It was hard to breathe. I used to sit near the front or back entrance to breathe some cold air. 2nd floor used to be so hot, it was unbearable.
But last week I could feel cold air flow down in the middle of the club, near the main stage. The club felt a lot cooler, so perhaps HK has added A / see equipment.
ChrisKringle
07-08-18, 19:19
In the next few weeks I'm planning on heading down to Ensenada for the night, and on the way back the next day, I'd like to stop into HK for some early fun.
So two questions:
1. How is the chica selection during the day (maybe 10 AM-3 PM)? I've only been there late at night before.
2. Is it possible to safely leave my things with the Cascadas front desk or somewhere else while I'm there for a few hours? I suppose I could avoid bringing any valuables and keep my passport / phone on myself if it's a concern.
If you are driving and have the VIP card, leave the car with the valet service. Whenever you need stuff from your car, you can walk to Pepe's and get your backpack or whatever from your car. You'll need two keys to do this. One for the valet and one to open your trunk or doors. You can leave stuff with the HK club front desk and remember to tip the clerk or simply leave your stuff in your car for when you need it. P.S: I believe the standard valet tip is 40 pesos or 2 dollars in Tijuana, at least, that is what the sign in front of the Hotel Caesar seems to say. Tarifa - 40 pesos. If anyone knows differently, please advise.
In the next few weeks I'm planning on heading down to Ensenada for the night, and on the way back the next day, I'd like to stop into HK for some early fun.
So two questions:
1. How is the chica selection during the day (maybe 10 AM-3 PM)? I've only been there late at night before.
2. Is it possible to safely leave my things with the Cascadas front desk or somewhere else while I'm there for a few hours? I suppose I could avoid bringing any valuables and keep my passport / phone on myself if it's a concern.
Aviator400
07-09-18, 17:46
In the next few weeks I'm planning on heading down to Ensenada for the night, and on the way back the next day, I'd like to stop into HK for some early fun.
So two questions:
1. How is the chica selection during the day (maybe 10 AM-3 PM)? I've only been there late at night before.
2. Is it possible to safely leave my things with the Cascadas front desk or somewhere else while I'm there for a few hours? I suppose I could avoid bringing any valuables and keep my passport / phone on myself if it's a concern.Day shift is my favorite. Typically the selection is good, the girls are sober and a little desperate.
I have frequently left things at the Hong Kong and Cascadas front desks, including a backpack with valuables, and never had a problem. That said, critical items, such as a passport and phone, never leave my pocket.
If you are driving and have the VIP card, leave the car with the valet service. Whenever you need stuff from your car, you can walk to Pepe's and get your backpack or whatever from your car. You'll need two keys to do this. One for the valet and one to open your trunk or doors. You can leave stuff with the HK club front desk and remember to tip the clerk or simply leave your stuff in your car for when you need it. P.S: I believe the standard valet tip is 40 pesos or 2 dollars in Tijuana, at least, that is what the sign in front of the Hotel Caesar seems to say. Tarifa - 40 pesos. If anyone knows differently, please advise.Just one comment about the Valet parking, "tarifa" doesn't mean TIP, it means price or cost, so you're not giving tips, you're paying for the service, so it's not optional like a tip, it's payment.
Captain Solo
07-12-18, 00:27
Tuesday night I was in HK with a wingman after 8 PM.
The selection was not good. Sasha was back drinking fichas with guys all night. Ximena was standing near the front Banos. She looked good, actually smiling sweetly often, with her pretty face, long legs and glistening soft skin. I could not resist popping her a propina into her bras, squeezing her boobs and groping her crotch. She was smiling and answered in clear, strong voice. She was far more popular than average. A few guys took her for fichas, lap dances and arriba.
I took Gariela de Monterrey for a free lap dance. She was properly the best-looking chica all night. She was hot in the lap dance cubicle. Her skin was dry, soft and smooth. I asked her to go arriba. She said $100 firm. She did not even respond to my "Mil con propina" offer. Gave her 2 bucks tip and let her go.
Asked another chica to go arriba. She again said $100 firm, did not even consider $80, and the club was not busy, probably only half the weekend crowd. Looks like HK girls are now fixing price for their pussies at $100. We are now very federally fucked with this high price. Even Ximena has gone from 200 peso trick to 2,000-peso in HK, a 1000% increase in a few weeks. Damn.
The bros should not let the dumb chicas squeeze their balls. We all should refuse to pay high putas' prices and let the greedy putas rot out. Try to get reasonable deals like 1000 pesos. Many HK girls could not make decent money in HK with their high prices, eventually have to work on the streets for 200 pesos.
Captain Solo
07-12-18, 04:44
I have to correct my previous report.
Found the spinner with a mole on her upper lip in front of hotel Garcia walk all the way with a guy to his room in Cascada, like a full block. She's a dead star-fish in bed and smells like a sweaty pig.
Valentina works in front of and take guys to hotel Coahuila, controlled by Adelita's, But she would quickly go with guys to hotel Cascada. The girls get 25% kick back from taking guys to the hotel. Valentina and Paola always get a 20-peso bill from Cascada after the session.
Looks like street girls are not forced to use any hotel. It's up to the girls how far they would walk. So the bros should charm the girls to go whatever hotel they want. A 50-peso note should let you take all sexy pictures you want.
Re.
Almost all girls in the alley would go to Cascada, except those working in front of hotel Mini, Coahuila. El Porton and Garcia. Those hotels are in competition with HK / Cascada. They make the girls use their rooms exclusively or still have to pay if they walk off.
Found the spinner with a mole on her upper lip in front of hotel Garcia walk all the way with a guy to his room in Cascada, like a full block. She's a dead star-fish in bed and smells like a sweaty pig.That would likely be Fatima.
She would come to Cascadas for 500 pesos / 30 minutes.
Looks like The guy took her up at the end of her shift, she already burned out.
I had similar experience with El Capitan Solo in recent weeks, and so did some of my friends.
I think it has something to do with the management telling the girls especially new recruits $100 or nothing.
They'd rather have the girls selling fichas downstairs than fucking arriba.
Captain Solo
07-12-18, 22:15
To Asting.
You are correct. It was Fatima. How did you remember all these girls' names? She's plain and smells sweaty.
The few girls on the North side of hotel Garcia are all star fish, except Yvonne, who's always kidding around with me, does excellent CBJ and fucks with hot passion.
Re. That would likely be Fatima.
She would come to Cascadas for 500 pesos / 30 minutes.
Looks like The guy took her up at the end of her shift, she already burned out.
Long Don Silva
07-12-18, 23:01
Asked another chica to go arriba. She again said $100 firm, did not even consider $80, and the club was not busy, probably only half the weekend crowd. Looks like HK girls are now fixing price for their pussies at $100. We are now very federally fucked with this high price. Even Ximena has gone from 200 peso trick to 2,000-peso in HK, a 1000% increase in a few weeks. Damn.
The bros should not let the dumb chicas squeeze their balls. We all should refuse to pay high putas' prices and let the greedy putas rot out. Try to get reasonable deals like 1000 pesos. Many HK girls could not make decent money in HK with their high prices, eventually have to work on the streets for 200 pesos.If they're going to be like that, then we should start telling them that we're going to Chicago where the girls are as attractive and significantly cheaper. If this is done en masse then maybe it will have an impact on their negotiating.
Not sure if this one belong in this thread but I plan to be at HK next week on Wednesday night. I am visiting LA Mon-Thu and my flight back to bay area is on Thu around 1:30 from ONT (Ontario, California, about 1 hour east of LA). After I finish my work on Wednesday, I plan to drive down to HK on Wednesday eve. A little fun getaway. Its about 2 hours drive to the border by SD. I love HK on weekdays. I do have a hotel by ONT with checkout on Thu, but want to avoid driving back to ONT on Wednesday late might. I was thinking of getting a room as Cascadas, sleep for 4-5 hours after my multiple sessions and start from Tijuana the following morning. I mostly park at the border and take the Pedwest walking. How is the line at Pedwest in the morning coming back to the US and how early should I start? The Sentri line has always been good for me and I cross thru pedwest in minutes but have had one bad experience on Sunday night two months ago, I was stuck in the long line in Pedwest for hours. Advice / experience with Pedwest on Weekday morning and traffic northbound towards LA? Another thing is. The hotels in the US during summer is expensive. Even the crappy lounges by the border on the US side are $175+.
Hundred bucks for usually lousy sex? Pass. I pay 50 to 60. I've passed on girls offering me that price. If no Hong Kong girls offer that ever again no problem. Walk next door. Fortunately I don't need a 9 to be happy I need a 7 who can act like she's into it. I can have sex. In the states for 60 70 80 at Asian places. But I like the whole Hong Kong experience.What Asian places? AMP's, typically its $60 for the massage and $140 for full service. That's $200.
Captain Solo
07-13-18, 01:31
To Long Don Silver.
In the past the girls would start with $100 but quickly agreed to "un mil con propina" offers. This week HK girls were all dead set on $100. Damn. Not-so-hot girls in the&G would also insist on $100 and sit around all night without doing business. These girls have no understanding of the competitive market.
Ya, you are correct. We may have to spell it out for them the fierce competition from Chicago, Las Chevelas and Adelitas. I know a few not-so-hot HK girls who insisted on high prices. They did very little or no business for months. After a while they had no other options but working in the alley for 200-peso sessions.
Guys must be push overs to give in to high-priced demands by HK girls. These girls would act like they are high-class princesses and treat guys like a bunch of stupid losers. Lies and manipulations by HK girls are ridiculous. Sex with some are onerous, like fucking buffaloes.
Many street girls are just as hot as HK girls, but are good and honest, and give sweet sessions.
Captain Solo
07-13-18, 01:54
To Asting,
You made a very astute observation, that HK may prefer putas to stay in the club and sell fichas than going upstairs to have their paid orgasms.
That would be good motivation if HK never makes money off the putas' sessions by law. However knowing how corrupt Mexico is, with everyone sticking their hands out for pay offs, It's hard to believe HK's owner is not squeezing the girls for kickbacks out of that most lucrative bit of business. Every time HK girls go upstairs, the door guys record their names and times, for what? Even the strippers' propinas are counted and recorded carefully, and they are required to kick back about 25% to the stage butch every time.
I do know club girls' standard rates is $100 in Monterrey. They would insist on it even in Tijuana. If enough guys turn down their high rates, they would know and adjust them down.
Dcrist0527
07-13-18, 03:14
Completely agree. The law of supply and demand is in our favor. There are other clubs and there are chicas just outside HK's doors for a fraction of that price. I'm cheap and I know that. But I am not going to pay $100 for 20 minutes.
Hundred bucks for usually lousy sex? Pass. I pay 50 to 60. I've passed on girls offering me that price. If no Hong Kong girls offer that ever again no problem. Walk next door. Fortunately I don't need a 9 to be happy I need a 7 who can act like she's into it. I can have sex. In the states for 60 70 80 at Asian places. But I like the whole Hong Kong experience.
I had similar experience with El Capitan Solo in recent weeks, and so did some of my friends.
I think it has something to do with the management telling the girls especially new recruits $100 or nothing.
They'd rather have the girls selling fichas downstairs than fucking arriba.For the price of $ 100 I will eventually agree to $ 21 privado in the cabin and $ 80 sex, but not $ 100 for sex only. BTW I always do this with my regular chica and no problem.
Dcrist0527
07-13-18, 12:59
I had one session with Fatima about a year ago. It was unremarkable. Thankfully, she was not smelly or sweaty. But it was very business-like. I would not recommend and certainly not repeat.
To Asting.
You are correct. It was Fatima. How did you remember all these girls' names? She's plain and smells sweaty.
The few girls on the North side of hotel Garcia are all star fish, except Yvonne, who's always kidding around with me, does excellent CBJ and fucks with hot passion.
Re. That would likely be Fatima.
She would come to Cascadas for 500 pesos / 30 minutes.
Looks like The guy took her up at the end of her shift, she already burned out.
Not sure if this one belong in this thread but I plan to be at HK next week on Wednesday night. I am visiting LA Mon-Thu and my flight back to bay area is on Thu around 1:30 from ONT (Ontario, California, about 1 hour east of LA). After I finish my work on Wednesday, I plan to drive down to HK on Wednesday eve. A little fun getaway. Its about 2 hours drive to the border by SD. I love HK on weekdays. I do have a hotel by ONT with checkout on Thu, but want to avoid driving back to ONT on Wednesday late might. I was thinking of getting a room as Cascadas, sleep for 4-5 hours after my multiple sessions and start from Tijuana the following morning. I mostly park at the border and take the Pedwest walking. How is the line at Pedwest in the morning coming back to the US and how early should I start? The Sentri line has always been good for me and I cross thru pedwest in minutes but have had one bad experience on Sunday night two months ago, I was stuck in the long line in Pedwest for hours. Advice / experience with Pedwest on Weekday morning and traffic northbound towards LA? Another thing is. The hotels in the US during summer is expensive. Even the crappy lounges by the border on the US side are $175+.How come you stuck for hours with sentri in pedestrian lanes?
Damn, you're on tight schedule. If I were you I would be out of HK by 3 am the latest and in your car by 3:20. You'll be at ONT hotel no later than 5:20. If you wait any longer than that 15 north starting to get jammed before 91 freeway (there's some sort of construction going on). Just drink some coffee or red bull, so you won't fall asleep.
If yo want to get out the following morning, what time check out at your ONT hotel? 12 noon?. You have to be in your car by 9/9:30 am. By that time 15 north starting to ease up from morning rush hour, and you'll be at your ONT hotel by 11/11:30. But it only takes one car accident on 15 north to screw you up and I've been there.
I'd rather be in the road before morning rush hour starts than after.
Hope this helps!
Staple Stable
07-13-18, 18:48
Stayed for the weekend leading up to 4th of July. Sessioned with a number of BGs while I was there, but most were unremarkable to the point that I don't even remember their names. There were three that stuck out. One had big fake silicon tits, straight dark brown hair that was slightly curled at the bottom, and braces. She had an elegant look to her; face was 7/10, body was 8/10 when I saw her in the club (she had this thing on that went from the crotch, split into two to cover the breasts, and then wrapped around the neck) but dropped to a 6/10 when naked (I don't like silicon). She was exceptionally bad and I couldn't finish in that session; this was also the first (and only) session that I did without doing a lap dance / drink to test the waters first. $80. Would not repeat.
The other two that stuck out were good. One was Kelley. Light brown hair, curled at the bottom. Very skinny, had basically no chest or ass. Once again, fairly elegant look; 8/10 face, 7/10 body. Was a good session, she gave my balls a pretty deep clean with her mouth, but aside from that the head was average. I don't know if I just had bad hearing in the club or if she upped the price when in the room; I thought she said $80, but when we got to the room she asked to pay up front and that it was actually $90. Would maybe repeat.
The highlight of the trip was Katie. She had glasses, small tits, straight hair (had highlights, but at this point I can only vaguely remember the actual color. I believe it was some combination of brown and dirty blonde). Beautiful smile, cute face, petite body. 8/10 face, 10/10 body. Very playful and flirty attitude, speaks pretty good English as well. She was the only girl I sessioned with that actually knew how to suck a dick, and my session with her felt far more intimate than any of the others. $80, but I tipped her $20 on top. Overall, with the perfect body (in my eyes), cute face, great GFE, and the ability to actually talk to her (me no hablas Espanol), was an amazing session. We chatted quite a bit after the session as well; she's a gamer, watches anime, and speaks a bit of French and Japanese too. Sad that I only discovered her on my last day there, as I definitely would've taken her for another session (or three). 100% would repeat.
As an aside, I just want to lament how it seems like most of the girls have no idea how to give head. Girls in FKK clubs in Germany seem to be way better at it.
MongerHunger
07-14-18, 01:25
I warned bros awhile ago that spending $100 USD or more on HK's robotic dead fish no passion sex would cause an inflation and upwards trend on prices. Bros have posted that they pay that much and sometimes even more. It only drives prices up that are comparable to prices in the US. As a matter of fact, you can find some escorts in the US that will service for only $60-$80 USD. This is really killing our price advantages in HK and with some Mexican street girls too. This trend is liable to catch on in other clubs, venues and the streets because someone wants to throw around 100 dollar bill like trash. Zona norte prices may reflect US prices in the future because of careless spending.
MongerHunger
07-14-18, 01:36
Hundred bucks for usually lousy sex? Pass. I pay 50 to 60. I've passed on girls offering me that price. If no Hong Kong girls offer that ever again no problem. Walk next door. Fortunately I don't need a 9 to be happy I need a 7 who can act like she's into it. I can have sex. In the states for 60 70 80 at Asian places. But I like the whole Hong Kong experience.I haven't seen the Asian spots that cheap. Those are prices for a basic massage or rub with no extras. If you offer that for sex in the Asian AMP's they will laugh you right out the front door. Be realistic and pass on credible information. That why we are all here.
I had one session with Fatima about a year ago. It was unremarkable. Thankfully, she was not smelly or sweaty. But it was very business-like. I would not recommend and certainly not repeat.I heard she's getting better now.
But I'm like you, if my first time was unremarkable or lackluster I won't likely to repeat unless I know for sure she'll change.
To Asting.
You are correct. It was Fatima. How did you remember all these girls' names? She's plain and smells sweaty.
The few girls on the North side of hotel Garcia are all star fish, except Yvonne, who's always kidding around with me, does excellent CBJ and fucks with hot passion.Haha, I have a good memory.
Agree on your Yvonne take.
The Tall Man
07-14-18, 02:03
To Asting,
You made a very astute observation, that HK may prefer putas to stay in the club and sell fichas than going upstairs to have their paid orgasms.
That would be good motivation if HK never makes money off the putas' sessions by law. However knowing how corrupt Mexico is, with everyone sticking their hands out for pay offs, It's hard to believe HK's owner is not squeezing the girls for kickbacks out of that most lucrative bit of business. Every time HK girls go upstairs, the door guys record their names and times, for what? Even the strippers' propinas are counted and recorded carefully, and they are required to kick back about 25% to the stage butch every time.
I do know club girls' standard rates is $100 in Monterrey. They would insist on it even in Tijuana. If enough guys turn down their high rates, they would know and adjust them down.Now after more trips to Colombia in the past 8 years than I can count, some trips lasting numerous months, I am spoiled rotten, hell for $100 or approx 290,000 colombian pesos I regularly get GFE all night if I want them to stay from sexy 19 yo. There is no going back, I am spoiled rotten.
TTM.
I am planning to be in Tijuana this weekend, staying at Cascadas, would like to hang out with fellow mongers and learn from the senior pros.
Captain Solo
07-14-18, 04:30
To Tallman,
One of the bros was telling the same thing, how Colombian chicas are much better-looking, are far more passionate in bed than Tijuana girls.
Tijuana bar girls are not that good-looking, Sex with them is plain and boring with no fun, passion or human connection.
I will definitely plan to go to Medellin when I have time.
Captain Solo
07-14-18, 06:48
To Jboarman.
Your schedule is tight. Don't know what time you have to be at Ontario airport for departure. You should plan to be at the terminal for check in 1 5 hours before flight time to make sure.
Foot traffic crossing the border in the morning is unpredictable, even with SENTRI. Lots of people start to line up as early as 5 AM. My wingman walked across PEDEAST SENTRI lane at 9 AM last Wdnesday. He was lucky.
The drive back North from San Ysidro to Ontario on I-15 may take 2.5 hours at night without traffic, but in the morning it can be unpredictable during commuting hours, especially if there are accidents on the road. You may have to plan on 15 MPH average in the morning.
There are lots of variables and risks on the roads getting from Tijuana to ONT in the morning. You would be much better off leaving late at night, or very early in the morning, like before 4 AM to avoid traffic. If you can take a flight out of San Diego, it would save you 3 hours drive to ONT.
Met a chica last night who agreed to 1000 pesos (very tall brunette called Syrise?) who later demanded 2400 pesos. I refused to pay this and gave her $1000 pesos to leave. First and last time with that starfish. Guys beware. This newby chica was coached by someone to demand 2400 pesos. Avoid the switch and bait if you can. I get the feeling that meseros "steer" chicas in exchange for a share of the girls tips. That would explain the drastic price hikes in HK and Tropical. Some of the meseros are cutting into the girls tips, so the prices rise to compensate since you are paying two persons now, not one.
I warned bros awhile ago that spending $100 USD or more on HK's robotic dead fish no passion sex would cause an inflation and upwards trend on prices. Bros have posted that they pay that much and sometimes even more. It only drives prices up that are comparable to prices in the US. As a matter of fact, you can find some escorts in the US that will service for only $60-$80 USD. This is really killing our price advantages in HK and with some Mexican street girls too. This trend is liable to catch on in other clubs, venues and the streets because someone wants to throw around 100 dollar bill like trash. Zona norte prices may reflect US prices in the future because of careless spending.
StripperMan
07-14-18, 18:13
Met a chica last night who agreed to 1000 pesos (very tall brunette called Syrise?) who later demanded 2400 pesos. I refused to pay this and gave her $1000 pesos to leave. First and last time with that starfish. Guys beware. This newby chica was coached by someone to demand 2400 pesos. Avoid the switch and bait if you can. I get the feeling that meseros "steer" chicas in exchange for a share of the girls tips. That would explain the drastic price hikes in HK and Tropical. Some of the meseros are cutting into the girls tips, so the prices rise to compensate since you are paying two persons now, not one.When exactly did she demand 2400 pesos? I assume it was in the room at the beginning of the session?
Met a chica last night who agreed to 1000 pesos (very tall brunette called Syrise?) who later demanded 2400 pesos. I refused to pay this and gave her $1000 pesos to leave. First and last time with that starfish. Guys beware. This newby chica was coached by someone to demand 2400 pesos. Avoid the switch and bait if you can. I get the feeling that meseros "steer" chicas in exchange for a share of the girls tips. That would explain the drastic price hikes in HK and Tropical. Some of the meseros are cutting into the girls tips, so the prices rise to compensate since you are paying two persons now, not one.Agreed to 1000 pesos and then demanding 2400 pesos. What the hell! Did I miss something?
Tropical will soon become the new HK!
Reports of gun violence, chica's raising prices and now report of Colombia being a better option than Tijuana!
Looks like I picked a bad time for my Tijuana trip.
I warned bros awhile ago that spending $100 USD or more on HK's robotic dead fish no passion sex would cause an inflation and upwards trend on prices. Bros have posted that they pay that much and sometimes even more. It only drives prices up that are comparable to prices in the US. As a matter of fact, you can find some escorts in the US that will service for only $60-$80 USD. This is really killing our price advantages in HK and with some Mexican street girls too. This trend is liable to catch on in other clubs, venues and the streets because someone wants to throw around 100 dollar bill like trash. Zona norte prices may reflect US prices in the future because of careless spending.Heck in some cities like Indianapolis its 30-40 for a walker.
DramaFree11
07-15-18, 03:24
Yes, you need to be more careful in Tijuana, but they gangsters leave tourist alone Just be careful and use good judgement, you will have no issues. Mexico is way better then Colombia in my opinion. Mexico you can find any type of girl Colombia choices are more limited, unless you are into big asses, then your best to stick with Mexico. I have never paid $100 at H. K, usually between $80-90, service varies, but that is all over the world. Prices are going up every where. You will not be able to get better looking girls in Colombia for those prices. The high end strip clubs are expensive in Colombia, probably 2-3 times more then H. K, not to mention most of those places open later in the evening. H. K. Is open almost 24 hours a day. During the day in Colombia is just not that good, the places open during the day are basically the same as the street in girls in Tijuana.
Mexico, service, food, girls, cheaper then Colombia, no comparison, love Tijuana.
Reports of gun violence, chica's raising prices and now report of Colombia being a better option than Tijuana!
Looks like I picked a bad time for my Tijuana trip.
SaguaroJack
07-15-18, 06:20
Reports of gun violence, chica's raising prices and now report of Colombia being a better option than Tijuana!
Looks like I picked a bad time for my Tijuana trip.I just got back and the very first offer I got from a chica in Hong Kong was $60. Mind, I am Mexican American but my Spanish is mostly phrases, not conversational, if these are factors to be considered.
CountryMan54
07-15-18, 18:26
I warned bros awhile ago that spending $100 USD or more on HK's robotic dead fish no passion sex would cause an inflation and upwards trend on prices. Bros have posted that they pay that much and sometimes even more. It only drives prices up that are comparable to prices in the US. As a matter of fact, you can find some escorts in the US that will service for only $60-$80 USD. This is really killing our price advantages in HK and with some Mexican street girls too. This trend is liable to catch on in other clubs, venues and the streets because someone wants to throw around 100 dollar bill like trash. Zona norte prices may reflect US prices in the future because of careless spending.Are all the HK chicas and Tijuana SG deadfish and robotic? Or does it depend on the chica or maybe how you treat them? I'm just wondering cause have trip scheduled next month.
SaguaroJack
07-15-18, 20:11
But the 1st offer I got for arriba on Friday was $60. To which I agreed. If these factors matter I'm Mexican American but my Spanish consists of phrase. It's not conversational. So perhaps this "price hike" is overplayed?
Are all the HK chicas and Tijuana SG deadfish and robotic? Or does it depend on the chica or maybe how you treat them? I'm just wondering cause have trip scheduled next month.Some are, but others, it depends on the chica and how you treat them. I'm there often, and that also makes a difference.
Baxter Slade
07-15-18, 22:00
I might just spend time on tinder. My job title is why I even need escorts. Because it turns woman off. I visited a different city for few days so made up a different job, and girls wanted to meet me immediately. Something to keep in mind. If the girls are just sleeping around anyway what's the difference where I work. Right?Hmmmm you got me curious. Did you change from Wal Mart greeter to Doctor??
MongerHunger
07-15-18, 23:21
Are all the HK chicas and Tijuana SG deadfish and robotic? Or does it depend on the chica or maybe how you treat them? I'm just wondering cause have trip scheduled next month.A lot are. They gas you up downstairs and then morph into something else. There is no doubt that you can find good talent that suits you but will you have the time and patients? Are you a good judge of character? Can you go arriba more than once because your first time may not be the one. Will you fold under the pressure of a hustle? Some of these variables you have to take into consideration. Shop around, get the feel and the layout. Take mental notes of the chicas you find interesting. If you know what you are looking for and firm with good judgement it should ease things up. Repeat visits to HK also helps a great deal. There are quality chicas at HK but watch for the pitfalls.
AmazonLuver
07-15-18, 23:49
Heck in some cities like Indianapolis its 30-40 for a walker.Girls in the casino are 150.
The Tall Man
07-16-18, 02:05
Yes, you need to be more careful in Tijuana, but they gangsters leave tourist alone Just be careful and use good judgement, you will have no issues. Mexico is way better then Colombia in my opinion. Mexico you can find any type of girl Colombia choices are more limited, unless you are into big asses, then your best to stick with Mexico. I have never paid $100 at H. K, usually between $80-90, service varies, but that is all over the world. Prices are going up every where. You will not be able to get better looking girls in Colombia for those prices. The high end strip clubs are expensive in Colombia, probably 2-3 times more then H. K, not to mention most of those places open later in the evening. H. K. Is open almost 24 hours a day. During the day in Colombia is just not that good, the places open during the day are basically the same as the street in girls in Tijuana.
Mexico, service, food, girls, cheaper then Colombia, no comparison, love Tijuana.
Reports of gun violence, chica's raising prices and now report of Colombia being a better option than Tijuana!
Looks like I picked a bad time for my Tijuana trip.Yes some colombian women have and are into big colas, here is just a brief sampling of a few girls from medellin who spend the night, are GFE, are all between 18 to 20, these are ALL repeats for me with 2 of them I see numerous times, I usually pay 150,000 to 250,000 colombian pesos for a night stay, yep that's $50 to $90 dollars.
Again this is what I find next to me in the morning, I am a lucky man, and a spoiled man now.
TTM.
Dcrist0527
07-16-18, 02:21
I think you prove the mental games go both ways. When a guy finds a 10 (looks and service), his mind may wander to "man, I wish I could do this everyday. " And then reality smacks him. Girls, especially on Tinder, likely fantasize about security.
I am curious what the magic job title is though. LOL.
I might just spend time on tinder. My job title is why I even need escorts. Because it turns woman off. I visited a different city for few days so made up a different job, and girls wanted to meet me immediately. Something to keep in mind. If the girls are just sleeping around anyway what's the difference where I work. Right?
Dcrist0527
07-16-18, 02:30
As others have said, alot goes into it.
There is a logical argument against my approach. But I like to "interview". In fact, sometimes, that's just as much fun. I'm willing to spend $10 or $20 on fichas, then maybe $11 on a lap dance. If I'm not completely sold at that point, she isn't getting $70 for arriba. Yes, I'm out $20-$30. But I probably avoided an $87 disappointment. And in my experience, I don't get past the 2nd interview without hiring the candidate. LOL.
Also, as others have pointed out, alot depends on how you treat them. Grabbing them and being overly forceful, well, they get that all day long. They will do dirty, dirty things. But a more subtle, kind approach will likely win you a better time. (There are exceptions to the rule. Once had a chica come up to me, very aggressive in a very good way, and rocked my world. But that was the exception to the rule, in my experience.).
Are all the HK chicas and Tijuana SG deadfish and robotic? Or does it depend on the chica or maybe how you treat them? I'm just wondering cause have trip scheduled next month.
ClamSlammer
07-16-18, 03:11
Reports of gun violence, chica's raising prices and now report of Colombia being a better option than Tijuana!
Looks like I picked a bad time for my Tijuana trip.You're acting if reports of Colombia being better than Tijuana is something new and shocking. This topic has been debated for decades. There's thousands of reports out there stating that Colombia is better. And vice-versa. I've mongered in both places. Neither is unequivocally superior to the other in all aspects. It's a matter of personal preference.
The high end strip clubs are expensive in Colombia, probably 2-3 times more then H. K,This statement is so patently false I'm simply dumbfounded at how one could fabricate such nonsense. It would be the equivalent of saying that a session at Las Chavelas costs triple what a comparable session at HK costs. Bogota and Medellin establishments have cheaper putas than Tijuana establishments. This is not even debatable. Hot putas are available at the casas for about $100-$150 k, which is about $35-$55 USD. The "high end" strip clubs such as La Isla and Fase II the putas regularly go up for $200 k ($70 USD).
Let's compare that to the typical $80 USD half hour session at HK. The OP is stating that Colombian strip clubs charge the equivalent of $160-240 USD, which is outright laughable. A session at Fase II comparable to one at HK would typically cost of $10 USD less, NOT "2-3 times more. " That being said, from a purely strip club perspective, Tijuana beats MDE hands down. Even though it costs a bit more, the convenience and selection of Zona Norte far exceeds anything MDE has to offer. If you add on MDE's casas and freelancers via social media, it levels the playing field. And MDE is a city far superior to Tijuana in terms of beauty and culture. Food is terrible though. You can't go wrong in either city though, I enjoy both equally.
MongerHunger
07-16-18, 04:20
Met a chica last night who agreed to 1000 pesos (very tall brunette called Syrise?) who later demanded 2400 pesos. I refused to pay this and gave her $1000 pesos to leave. First and last time with that starfish. Guys beware. This newby chica was coached by someone to demand 2400 pesos. Avoid the switch and bait if you can. I get the feeling that meseros "steer" chicas in exchange for a share of the girls tips. That would explain the drastic price hikes in HK and Tropical. Some of the meseros are cutting into the girls tips, so the prices rise to compensate since you are paying two persons now, not one.Man that is unfortunate. Thanks for the info. There are all kinds of angles they use to try to seperate us from our money.
MongerHunger
07-16-18, 04:26
Heck in some cities like Indianapolis its 30-40 for a walker.Yes the streets are a different game. Car dates are advertised online with some.
MongerHunger
07-16-18, 04:41
But the 1st offer I got for arriba on Friday was $60. To which I agreed. If these factors matter I'm Mexican American but my Spanish consists of phrase. It's not conversational. So perhaps this "price hike" is overplayed?Surely there are some good deals at HK and some go with the 1000 peso deal but there is an upward trend with some of the chicas. It's good that bros do price checks to keep info current. We like the market to stay stable for as long as possible.
ChrisKringle
07-16-18, 07:50
I visited over the weekend, I'm an obvious gringo, but I found no price hike. Just like normal, all the chicas asked for 100 to start, but immediately agreed to 80 when I countered with that.
RE: Medellin vs. Tijuana, of course Medellin girls are better, and yes there are plenty of slim types if you don't like the artificial ass / tits. The closest equivalent to Hong Kong in Medellin is a strip club / brothel called Fase Dos. The girls are probably about the same quality looks-wise there, but they have much better attitudes than the average Hong Kong girl. They're almost always pretty GFE. And the endless semi-pro options in Medellin are even better than fase dos.
But. The benefit of Hong Kong and Tijuana is how accessible it is for the average gringo. You can get there safely and have a good experience without knowing a word of Spanish, which would make things a bit of a struggle in Colombia. You can go there quickly and discreetly from the US. And the difference in flight cost easily eats up any savings in chica costs that you'd get from Colombia unless you're really staying for a long time.
Stl Danish
07-16-18, 08:14
What's with the girls who just kind of hang out in the middle of the club on those glass stairs between the front and back sections? There were some real lookers there last time I went but they weren't interacting with anyone. Are they just posted up looking for arriba and not interested in drinks / dances?
AmazonLuver
07-16-18, 18:15
Yes some colombian women have and are into big colas, here is just a brief sampling of a few girls from medellin who spend the night, are GFE, are all between 18 to 20, these are ALL repeats for me with 2 of them I see numerous times, I usually pay 150,000 to 250,000 colombian pesos for a night stay, yep that's $50 to $90 dollars.
Again this is what I find next to me in the morning, I am a lucky man, and a spoiled man now.
TTM.Can you help me out on how and where to contact them. Thanks.
The Tall Man
07-16-18, 18:23
You're acting if reports of Colombia being better than Tijuana is something new and shocking. This topic has been debated for decades. There's thousands of reports out there stating that Colombia is better. And vice-versa. I've mongered in both places. Neither is unequivocally superior to the other in all aspects. It's a matter of personal preference.
This statement is so patently false I'm simply dumbfounded at how one could fabricate such nonsense. It would be the equivalent of saying that a session at Las Chavelas costs triple what a comparable session at HK costs. Bogota and Medellin establishments have cheaper putas than Tijuana establishments. This is not even debatable. Hot putas are available at the casas for about $100-$150 k, which is about $35-$55 USD. The "high end" strip clubs such as La Isla and Fase II the putas regularly go up for $200 k ($70 USD).
Let's compare that to the typical $80 USD half hour session at HK. The OP is stating that Colombian strip clubs charge the equivalent of $160-240 USD, which is outright laughable. A session at Fase II comparable to one at HK would typically cost of $10 USD less, NOT "2-3 times more. " That being said, from a purely strip club perspective, Tijuana beats MDE hands down. Even though it costs a bit more, the convenience and selection of Zona Norte far exceeds anything MDE has to offer. If you add on MDE's casas and freelancers via social media, it levels the playing field. And MDE is a city far superior to Tijuana in terms of beauty and culture. Food is terrible though. You can't go wrong in either city though, I enjoy both equally.Can not agree more, I have partied at both Fase II and Luna Lunera and La Isla as recently as 2 weeks ago, like you say 200 mil or about $70 USD for an hour with a really beautiful paisa.
Look at my photos again in my post below, these are real girls who come over to my place, we drink and play music then have passionate sex in my comfortable apartment, sometime they will stay the night and sometimes not, I give no more than 200 mil. I do not show the girls faces but they look like angles, no shit, and bodies made for sin, jajajajaja.
And your right, you don't go the Medellin for the food, jajaja.
TTM.
DramaFree11
07-16-18, 19:03
I stand correct when we were there we were paying more, apologize. Not sure what happened. Correct very easy to meet girls on-line in Colombia, and sometimes they will spend the night. That being said I still think Mexico is a better options. Parts of Mexico is also easy to meet girls on-line. If you can get a cheap flight worth.
I still think we take H. K, for granted, amazing place.
Can not agree more, I have partied at both Fase II and Luna Lunera and La Isla as recently as 2 weeks ago, like you say 200 mil or about $70 USD for an hour with a really beautiful paisa.
Look at my photos again in my post below, these are real girls who come over to my place, we drink and play music then have passionate sex in my comfortable apartment, sometime they will stay the night and sometimes not, I give no more than 200 mil. I do not show the girls faces but they look like angles, no shit, and bodies made for sin, jajajajaja.
And your right, you don't go the Medellin for the food, jajaja.
SaguaroJack
07-16-18, 20:26
What's with the girls who just kind of hang out in the middle of the club on those glass stairs between the front and back sections? There were some real lookers there last time I went but they weren't interacting with anyone. Are they just posted up looking for arriba and not interested in drinks / dances?They're their waiting for someone to proposition them for whatever, drink, arriba, VIP, dollar for a grab.
Husker Dude
07-16-18, 21:35
Can not agree more, I have partied at both Fase II and Luna Lunera and La Isla as recently as 2 weeks ago, like you say 200 mil or about $70 USD for an hour with a really beautiful paisa.
Look at my photos again in my post below, these are real girls who come over to my place, we drink and play music then have passionate sex in my comfortable apartment, sometime they will stay the night and sometimes not, I give no more than 200 mil. I do not show the girls faces but they look like angles, no shit, and bodies made for sin, jajajajaja.
And your right, you don't go the Medellin for the food, jajaja.
TTM.I just got back from Medellin a couple weeks ago too. Fase dos the high end strip club in MDE is 190 K or about $65-70 US in a pretty nice room. I stay at the mansion in MDE which is on the upper class of town & they have 4-5* restaurants that are as good as any American restaurant for much cheaper than US. One of our trips we had the executive chef from TPC Sawgrass with us & he said the food there at La Provencia or LE Gris is equal to 4-5 star restaurants in the states.
DramaFree11
07-16-18, 22:29
I just got back from Medellin a couple weeks ago too. Fase dos the high end strip club in MDE is 190 K or about $65-70 US in a pretty nice room. I stay at the mansion in MDE which is on the upper class of town & they have 4-5* restaurants that are as good as any American restaurant for much cheaper than US. One of our trips we had the executive chef from TPC Sawgrass with us & he said the food there at La Provencia or LE Gris is equal to 4-5 star restaurants in the states.
Last comment, we can debate about Colombia, (I am not a big fan), I love Mexico, but the food is terrible in Colombia, no comparison to food in Mexico.
My card expires in early any one going before then? I can share. PM me.
My card expires in early any one going before then? I can share. PM me.It expires in early October. I'd like to share the benefits if anyone is going before then. No risk.
MongerHunger
07-17-18, 03:25
I visited over the weekend, I'm an obvious gringo, but I found no price hike. Just like normal, all the chicas asked for 100 to start, but immediately agreed to 80 when I countered with that.Every chica in HK is not going for $100 firm obviously and $80 seems to be around average market price at HK. Some of us were bringing to light that more chicas are standing firm at $100 and they will get some gringos to pay that amount. If they have no problem selling their wares at that price and have enough takers then someone turning down their $100 price doesn't matter to them because they will make it up with their regulars and whoever else falls into their web of seduction. At Chicago and Adelitas you are more likely to see $60 as the average market price and even those clubs have their top tier chicas that won't take that but your chances of scoring a $60 chica there is pretty damn good and highly likely.
It's to eaches own. Colombia is more work to get the girls. They are not lining up like in Hong Kong. So yeah, if you re only used to that style, Hong Kong, Del Rey you perhaps will not like Colombia but once you break into the network of chicas either on FB or through a connection or other girls. Colombia will blow Mexico out of the water in Quality, quantity and price. But again to eaches own, if you don't want to put in any work and just pick them like Hong Kong then Colombia is prob not your cup of coffee. I usually stay away from the strip clubs in Colombia over price in my book.
I just got back from Medellin a couple weeks ago too. Fase dos the high end strip club in MDE is 190 K or about $65-70 US in a pretty nice room. I stay at the mansion in MDE which is on the upper class of town & they have 4-5* restaurants that are as good as any American restaurant for much cheaper than US. One of our trips we had the executive chef from TPC Sawgrass with us & he said the food there at La Provencia or LE Gris is equal to 4-5 star restaurants in the states.
Last comment, we can debate about Colombia, (I am not a big fan), I love Mexico, but the food is terrible in Colombia, no comparison to food in Mexico.
What's with the girls who just kind of hang out in the middle of the club on those glass stairs between the front and back sections? There were some real lookers there last time I went but they weren't interacting with anyone. Are they just posted up looking for arriba and not interested in drinks / dances?They may be picky in some cases but they are marketing the wares on those steps. If they are not there to make money or chill with their chica friends there would be no reason to go to work.
Arborsun83
07-18-18, 08:29
Every chica in HK is not going for $100 firm obviously and $80 seems to be around average market price at HK. Some of us were bringing to light that more chicas are standing firm at $100 and they will get some gringos to pay that amount. If they have no problem selling their wares at that price and have enough takers then someone turning down their $100 price doesn't matter to them because they will make it up with their regulars and whoever else falls into their web of seduction. At Chicago and Adelitas you are more likely to see $60 as the average market price and even those clubs have their top tier chicas that won't take that but your chances of scoring a $60 chica there is pretty damn good and highly likely.In my limited experience (one visit in June this year), I was able to get a nice HK girl for 1400 pesos (70), and Adelita girl for 1200 pesos (60). Most of the HK girls seemed okay with 1500 pesos number, which is significantly less than $100. Maybe the pesos go farther now than before?
MongerHunger
07-18-18, 18:09
In my limited experience (one visit in June this year), I was able to get a nice HK girl for 1400 pesos (70), and Adelita girl for 1200 pesos (60). Most of the HK girls seemed okay with 1500 pesos number, which is significantly less than $100. Maybe the pesos go farther now than before?Yes I agree. Pesos do go further and in my opinion it is better to spend pesos. Sometimes the exchange rate gets up to 20 pesos for only 1 USD. These are good times to exchange monies. There are some that have no intention on spending pesos and come to Mexico with a pocket full of dollars and wind up paying more when using dollars. It all adds up, per visit, per purchase, per transaction.
The Tall Man
07-18-18, 20:34
OK to be fair and so to start with it has been about 4 or 5 months since my last overnight to Tijuana, and after spending months in Medellin Colombia I arrived late this past Monday afternoon with an open mind despite the talk about HK and cost and the like.
First things first. A recent post about the new rooms at Villa de Leyva hotel, next door to CC, gave me some motivation for checking it out and spending a night if nothing more to reminisce about the years between 1999 and 2004 when this was my go to hotel. Well the new rooms are NOT open during Monday through Thursday, only on weekends, the old shit hole rooms for $34 was the only rooms available, the manager at the front desk is a COMPLETE ASS Hole prick. My last stay at this dump hole was about 5 years ago, NEVER AGAIN, they lost me as a customer forever. Fuck the attitude, fuck the mexican front desk manager, I bring little to no expectations but this shit hole is the worst.
They were renovating the stage over at Adelitas and pushed everyone over to the far end. The girls at AB were the absolute bottom of the rung on Monday night.
Over at Trop there was literally nothing going on, a beer (not the 2 x 1 BS) and 20 minutes was all I needed.
Now HK, there were many fine chicas, I spent a good deal of time and settled in on a girl that was fun, great attitude, I think high on coke or something, but must admit what a fun girl and just as fun in the room. Yes she quoted $100 but we negotiated for $80. I reminded her that I did want want to marry her only to rent her pussy, she took it with a smile.
Must admit that HK is really quite a place, much different than the Medellin scene or other destination places but yes there are fun times to be had, so I have softened my thinking on this matter.
Few street girls were out and about, nothing worth chasing. I did not even step foot into CC, no reason why not to look just did not go in, but I also did not see any activity outside so it must have been dead inside the club.
I picked up a good supply of generic viagra over at the Piri store which I will bring to Medellin as I ran out my last trip. For some reason the stuff they sell there does not have the same effect, do not know why.
Enough for now. Be safe!
TTM.
ScatManDoo
07-18-18, 23:56
OK to be fair and so to start with it has been about 4 or 5 months since my last overnight to Tijuana, and after spending months in Medellin Colombia I arrived late this past Monday afternoon with an open mind despite the talk about HK and cost and the like.
First things first. A recent post about the new rooms at Villa de Leyva hotel, next door to CC, gave me some motivation for checking it out and spending a night if nothing more to reminisce about the years between 1999 and 2004 when this was my go to hotel. Well the new rooms are NOT open during Monday through Thursday, only on weekends, the old shit hole rooms for $34 was the only rooms available, the manager at the front desk is a COMPLETE ASS Hole prick. My last stay at this dump hole was about 5 years ago, NEVER AGAIN, they lost me as a customer forever. Fuck the attitude, fuck the mexican front desk manager, I bring little to no expectations but this shit hole is the worst.Yeah, the daytime front desk clerk (Victor) sits around six days a week like he has a bug up his ass.
We have a poster who often says that the overnight rooms at the Leyva is only $20 or $25, but the price you paid is more in line with what I believe are actual room costs at the Leyva. But admittedly pricing at the Leyva can be confusing.
Leyva has no S / T room rentals, all the rooms are overnight rooms. When mongers want to rent a room, the first question Victor asks is "Do you want a room with or without a television?
If you pass on having a TV, Victor will assign you a single room in the oldest remaining wing of the hotel. This area is a 3-story structure that is butt up against the Chicago Club and Hotel Jalos. These are the cheapest rooms, they are small and noise impacted by the Chicago Club. I think they cost around $30 (I don't know the exact amount in dollars, I always pay in pesos).
You probably said "Yes" to the television question and got a room in the (relatively newer) 5-story tower facing Constitution Ave. The rooms are unspectactlar, but generous in size. Good luck with all the stairs to climb if you get a room on the top fourth floor (the 5-story tower has no rooms on the ground floor).
The newest section of Hotel Leyva is in the southwest corner of the property. Previously this section was the oldest section of the property, but two years ago these oldest rooms and vacant retail space was torn down completely and the new rooms and new lobby was constructed in 18 to 20 months. The new construction is attached to both the old wing and the tower structure, so now the Leyva looks like a large "L-shaped" building with matching outside facade.
Its hard to understand the prices of Leyva rooms. Singles in the old (no TV) wing cost a little less than singles in the Tower. I don't know what the room prices are in the newly constructed portion. The Leyva also has some double rooms in the Tower that cost more than the Tower's singles. And on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights the Leyva charges more (about 20% higher) than the overnight rates Monday to Thursday nights. Some doubles have kitchens, other double rooms do not, but there is just one weekday rate for the double rooms in the Tower, regardless of whether the double has a kitchen or not.
I had an interesting event at HK. I called for Manie from Queens having called couple others from Foxys earlier.
As usual she was late, but finally I got message that she is at the reception. After a few minutes there was a knock on my door, I opened only to find hotel security there.
They asked if I have someone in the room, I said no and they can take a look. One of them came in and checked.
The main guy said they saw something on camera so wanted to check is someone was inside without permission.
I told them I was actually waiting for someone but she has not arrived.
Then I get a text that hotel is not allowing the girl to enter saying only HK girls can go up, can I go to reception and help.
I went down, Manie was there saying they are not allowing her. I asked the reception guy who radioed someone and then asked me to wait.
I turned around and saw the main security guy who had come to my room few minutes earlier, I asked him what's going on.
He said Manie is a transvestite and he had issues with guests in past, they have checked his ID and would not allow him into the hotel.
If I want I can take him to another hotel. I trusted the guy and said I don't want to deal with this, they asked her to leave.
I went one floor up by stairs, and saw Manie leave in SUV he / she was driving. I was surprised to see a working girl driving a rather posh car.
I had a long text conversation with Queens after that, she kept saying that Manie is a girl and I can check her panocha if I wanted.
I told her that hotel would not allow Manie in so there is nothing I can do. This ended the conversation.
I am wondering if Manie is actually a tranny or a troublemaker and I dodged a bullet thanks to HK staff or HK staff just stiffed a working girl to promote their own girls.
Thoughts?
Captain Solo
07-20-18, 16:58
Got to admit, the Leyva's reception guy is curt and surly. But you did not mention what he did to peessed you off so much. Leyva should put a couple naked girls at the reception desk. It would book a lot more business with horny guys hehe.
I don't know of any new rooms in Leyva. I stayed there a Friday night 2 weeks ago. The old rooms in the 4-story wing next to Chicago was $21 plus $2 key deposit. The rooms are about the same size as Cascada but with the shower and head behind the bed. The shower's small window opens out to Chicago's wall with about 1 foot separation. The mattress is firm, sheets and towels fresh and clean. I feel better in Leyva's room because I don't have to look at the shower and head all the time. Rooms on higher floors on Constitucion side are larger, some with 2 double beds. I remember paying like $25 for those rooms.
HK girls would go to Leyva for all nighters after their shifts. A few street girls walked with me 1 short block to Leyva for sessions. I don't want to pay $70 for a single room in Cascada on weekends. That price peessed me off.
Have a dinner date with a pretty student this weekend. After dinner it would be easier to drive the car fast and straight into Leyva's parking, instead of leaving it for HK's valet guys, which would look too obvious. Hopefully she does not know Leyva is in La Zona Norte. If she objects I would just drive out and head to hotel Ceasar hehe.
Captain Solo
07-20-18, 17:06
I have never had any problems bringing any girl from the street or from other bars in and out of Cascada. The reception guys even teased me to go ahead and bring up 100 girls a night if I want to.
So there must be some sort of problems with Manny. These security guys know their targets.
Dcrist0527
07-20-18, 17:32
Wow. That was potentially a nightmare! Not sure what to make of it. I suspect it's one of three scenarios:
1 -he's a tranny that obviously caused issues with a past guest.
2 -Not a tranny but caused too much trouble in the past.
3 - And I suspect this is most likely given the sequence of events. Security did not like something about you. For them to come to you, basically search your room, before Manie arrived, tells me they suspected you of something. And then to have a girl arrive immediately after that made them nervous. The "camera" story is obviously bogus since you had no one there. But they were suspicious of something.
I had an interesting event at HK. I called for Manie from Queens having called couple others from Foxys earlier.
As usual she was late, but finally I got message that she is at the reception. After a few minutes there was a knock on my door, I opened only to find hotel security there.
They asked if I have someone in the room, I said no and they can take a look. One of them came in and checked.
The main guy said they saw something on camera so wanted to check is someone was inside without permission.
I told them I was actually waiting for someone but she has not arrived.
Then I get a text that hotel is not allowing the girl to enter saying only HK girls can go up, can I go to reception and help.
I had an interesting event at HK. I called for Manie from Queens having called couple others from Foxys earlier.
As usual she was late, but finally I got message that she is at the reception. After a few minutes there was a knock on my door, I opened only to find hotel security there.
They asked if I have someone in the room, I said no and they can take a look. One of them came in and checked.
The main guy said they saw something on camera so wanted to check is someone was inside without permission.
I told them I was actually waiting for someone but she has not arrived.
Then I get a text that hotel is not allowing the girl to enter saying only HK girls can go up, can I go to reception and help.
I went down, Manie was there saying they are not allowing her. I asked the reception guy who radioed someone and then asked me to wait.
I turned around and saw the main security guy who had come to my room few minutes earlier, I asked him what's going on.
He said Manie is a transvestite and he had issues with guests in past, they have checked his ID and would not allow him into the hotel.
If I want I can take him to another hotel. I trusted the guy and said I don't want to deal with this, they asked her to leave.
I went one floor up by stairs, and saw Manie leave in SUV he / she was driving. I was surprised to see a working girl driving a rather posh car.
I had a long text conversation with Queens after that, she kept saying that Manie is a girl and I can check her panocha if I wanted.
I told her that hotel would not allow Manie in so there is nothing I can do. This ended the conversation.
I am wondering if Manie is actually a tranny or a troublemaker and I dodged a bullet thanks to HK staff or HK staff just stiffed a working girl to promote their own girls.
Thoughts?If the HK staff stiffed outside girls it would be a really bad move business wise, the hotel doesn't make any money from the HK girls, they make money giving clients a good stay no matter what girl you choose, I can understand why they would not like a troublemaker to come back and create more trouble, this is the first time that I've heard that Cascadas denies access to an outside girl, if it were more frequent I would think that they would be giving preferential treatment to HK girls but that's not the case, maybe they did have some problems with her / him.
First things first. A recent post about the new rooms at Villa de Leyva hotel, next door to CC, gave me some motivation for checking it out and spending a night if nothing more to reminisce about the years between 1999 and 2004 when this was my go to hotel. Well the new rooms are NOT open during Monday through Thursday, only on weekends, the old shit hole rooms for $34 was the only rooms available, the manager at the front desk is a COMPLETE ASS Hole prick. My last stay at this dump hole was about 5 years ago, NEVER AGAIN, they lost me as a customer forever. Fuck the attitude, fuck the mexican front desk manager, I bring little to no expectations but this shit hole is the worst.
I hate that fucking hotel! First off, if I want a short time room for an hour, they double the amount. In HK, it's 17 for 30 and 27 for an hour. In Leyya, it's 15 for 30 and 30 for an hour.
The problem is, I have a few favorites in CC, so I'm forced to use that hotel. Wednesday night, I wanted the room for and hour and I gave the bastard 40 US, and when I got my change, I received 6 bucks. I asked him WTF? He was charging me 4 bucks for lubricant. I asked him, "Did I ask you for fucking lubricant?" he returned my 4 bucks.
You should have gone into CC Monday night, I was there and they now have a good amount of women and some are great looking.
Thanks for your report.
ScatManDoo
07-21-18, 03:26
I hate that fucking hotel! First off, if I want a short time room for an hour, they double the amount. In HK, it's 17 for 30 and 27 for an hour. In Leyya, it's 15 for 30 and 30 for an hour.
The problem is, I have a few favorites in CC, so I'm forced to use that hotel. Wednesday night, I wanted the room for and hour and I gave the bastard 40 US, and when I got my change, I received 6 bucks. I asked him WTF? He was charging me 4 bucks for lubricant. I asked him, "Did I ask you for fucking lubricant?" he returned my 4 bucks.
You should have gone into CC Monday night, I was there and they now have a good amount of women and some are great looking.
Thanks for your report.Hi Tomjackin:
I wonder if you might be confusing Hotel Jalos with the Leyva Hotel.
The entrance to Hotel Jalos is a stairway up from Constitution's sidewalk just north of Chicago Club's entrance. The desk clerk to Hotel Jalos is on the second floor, where all their rooms are.
The ground level entrance and front desk to the Leyva is north of both the Chicago Club and Hotel Jalos.
I seriously doubt she was a tranny. Escort service sending a trannie. Never heard of this happen, ever.
There is something else that made the hotel not allow her in. Something that has to do with either her or you.
I had a long text conversation with Queens after that, she kept saying that Manie is a girl and I can check her panocha if I wanted.
I told her that hotel would not allow Manie in so there is nothing I can do. This ended the conversation.
I am wondering if Manie is actually a tranny or a troublemaker and I dodged a bullet thanks to HK staff or HK staff just stiffed a working girl to promote their own girls.
Thoughts?
EroticD123
07-21-18, 07:00
It expires in early October. I'd like to share the benefits if anyone is going before then. No risk.Hey Donorita,
I am new to this site and actually would like to go to Mexico to monger, but have not been to Mexico a bite afraid of the things I hear. Would like to go with someone experienced if you are down to go sometime?
TerOnlyOnce
07-21-18, 08:30
I am a Tijuana newbie that is interested in making my first trip here in the next coming months. Will be rolling solo. I plan to stay for two nights and bring about $700. Will this be enough for a good time? Also, are there any regulars here that go to Tijuana weekly? I would very much like to turn this into a lifestyle of going to Tijuana / Hong Kong bar every weekend to basically have a blast with tons of hot women. In fact, I'm already making plans to move to San Diego as soon as possible once my financial situation is settled.
Dcrist0527
07-21-18, 23:03
I see a few requests for some guidance in Tijuana. While I'm not as experienced as many on this board, I do feel like I can provide some guidance. And because of all the help this board has been to me, I almost feel obligated to do so.
I am not local. But if anyone is interested in heading down at the very end of September or very early October, PM me. (Yes, you'll have to pony up the site fee, but given the value of this board, it's money well spent.).
Moving to San Diego might be expensive. Tijuana is not. I knew a manager at a San Diego McDonalds. He lived in a 2 bedroom apartment in Tijuana for about $300 per month and took the trolley every day to work at McDonalds. The rents in San Diego are about $1000 per month more than Tijuana. If you want a lifestyle of going to Tijuana, start learning Spanish and watching DVDs in Spanish. Recommend you start with Pimsleur Spanish CDS and Spanish flashcards. The more you are able to talk about movies and events to the chicas in Spanish, the better you will do with them. Remember, when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I. e. Dress and look like an upper class Mexican as much as possible in long sleeved shirt, pants, and boots. Look around Tijuana and copy the classy looking locals, without looking rich (no Rolexes and other mugger bait).
I am a Tijuana newbie that is interested in making my first trip here in the next coming months. Will be rolling solo. I plan to stay for two nights and bring about $700. Will this be enough for a good time? Also, are there any regulars here that go to Tijuana weekly? I would very much like to turn this into a lifestyle of going to Tijuana / Hong Kong bar every weekend to basically have a blast with tons of hot women. In fact, I'm already making plans to move to San Diego as soon as possible once my financial situation is settled.
TerOnlyOnce
07-22-18, 05:19
It will get old if you go every weekend. In fact, you will be noticed as a regular by everyone in the streets, and if you are spending money on girls, now they know you got money and its just a bad idea because a lot of the people who watch you won't have a dime to their name. Half the homeless know me and I never went more then twice a month for 5 hours at a time. They get so few gringos that they remember you.Oh wow, I did not realize there was not that many gringos going.
I see a few requests for some guidance in Tijuana. While I'm not as experienced as many on this board, I do feel like I can provide some guidance. And because of all the help this board has been to me, I almost feel obligated to do so.
I am not local. But if anyone is interested in heading down at the very end of September or very early October, PM me. (Yes, you'll have to pony up the site fee, but given the value of this board, it's money well spent.).I think my first trip will be sometime around then but I will probably be going solo. I'd want to check it out on my own first to really maximize my experience, in the future though I don't mind group trips, sounds fun. In the future I would like to move to San Diego. I'm very much interested in sleeping with new girls consistently so it makes sense to get as close as possible to Tijuana.
TerOnlyOnce
07-22-18, 05:41
Moving to San Diego might be expensive. Tijuana is not. I knew a manager at a San Diego McDonalds. He lived in a 2 bedroom apartment in Tijuana for about $300 per month and took the trolley every day to work at McDonalds. The rents in San Diego are about $1000 per month more than Tijuana. If you want a lifestyle of going to Tijuana, start learning Spanish and watching DVDs in Spanish. Recommend you start with Pimsleur Spanish CDS and Spanish flashcards. The more you are able to talk about movies and events to the chicas in Spanish, the better you will do with them. Remember, when in Rome, do as the Romans do. I. e. Dress and look like an upper class Mexican as much as possible in long sleeved shirt, pants, and boots. Look around Tijuana and copy the classy looking locals, without looking rich (no Rolexes and other mugger bait).That's a pretty funny yet interesting set up. Living in Tijuana but working at a McDonalds in the states as a career LOL. My issue is that I need to live somewhere in the states for work. San Diego is as close as it gets and honestly money will not be a problem for me, need to have plenty of money if I want to go to Tijuana frequently right. And yes I agree eventually I will need to learn Spanish. Will go through some online courses and after spending so much time in Mexico I think it will be enough to fluently pick it up. For clothes how is black slacks, v-neck shirt, and boots? I don't wear watches or expensive shet to be honest.
ScatManDoo
07-22-18, 23:26
That's a pretty funny yet interesting set up. Living in Tijuana but working at a McDonalds in the states as a career LOL. My issue is that I need to live somewhere in the states for work. San Diego is as close as it gets...Actually San Ysidro is as close as it gets to the Mexican border.
Between San Diego and San Ysidro you have the municipalities of Imperial Beach, Chula Vista & National City. Chula Vista is the seventh largest city in Southern California.
Dcrist0527
07-23-18, 00:09
That's just not close to true. They do not need to see a gringo twice to know what they are there for. And if you are there for the chicas they know you have money. There are plenty of "regular" visitors on this board that go there every weekend without anything significant occurring.
I'm not sure what perverse pleasure people get by fear mongering in this forum. My suggestion: if you have had such bad experiences and live in fear of visiting, find another area of the world to enjoy and post there. There is alot of value in discussing specifics. Wild speculation is not helpful!
It will get old if you go every weekend. In fact, you will be noticed as a regular by everyone in the streets, and if you are spending money on girls, now they know you got money and its just a bad idea because a lot of the people who watch you won't have a dime to their name. Half the homeless know me and I never went more then twice a month for 5 hours at a time. They get so few gringos that they remember you.
You're better off not paying attention to anything he's posting, as it's mostly nonsense.
Oh wow, I did not realize there was not that many gringos going.
ClamSlammer
07-23-18, 06:00
It will get old if you go every weekend. In fact, you will be noticed as a regular by everyone in the streets, and if you are spending money on girls, now they know you got money and its just a bad idea because a lot of the people who watch you won't have a dime to their name. Half the homeless know me and I never went more then twice a month for 5 hours at a time. They get so few gringos that they remember you."It will get old if you go every weekend. In fact, you will be noticed as a regular by everyone in the streets".
Probably true. If you go every weekend after a few months you will be recognized as a regular.
"if you are spending money on girls, now they know you got money."
Not true. People on the street will not know how much you spend inside the bars. Even most of the people inside bars won't know how much you're spending.
"They get so few gringos that they remember you."
This statement is so patently false I begin to wonder if the OP has ever even been to Tijuana and Zona Norte. Gringos are literally everywhere. Chinos and Mexicans with lesser numbers of Black and Middle Eastern mongers. Mongering has an international appeal that transcends cultural and socio-economic boundaries. You will definitely notice this fact during your visits to Zona Norte.
Captain Solo
07-24-18, 04:56
The gloom and doom reports from a poster about security risks in Tijuana are inaccurate and way too pessimistic.
I have been going to Tijuana almost every weekend for 18 years and have not been robbed, threatened or had anything stolen from me, ever. I used to park in the US and walked / cabbed over, but in the past few years driving over and back with SENTRI / GE has been far quicker and safer. I got stopped a few times by policias, but they could never steal anything from me. Just hold your wallet and all cash / valuables in your hands while they search and they could do nothing.
Remember due to their crime situations, Mexican policias operates under different rules than the US. They can stop people and cars for search if they have their probable causes. They stop a lot of California cars because Mexicans would drive with expired US registrations to avoid Mexico's taxes. I have seen them check registrations and quickly let cars go within 1 minutes without searches.
As long as you exercise caution like in any big cities in the US, don't get falling-down drunk on the streets and don't get cornered in dead-end alleys, rateros won't be able to rob you.
Girls in La Zona are mostly good and honest. Club girls' standard service include CBJ and sex in many positions. Only a few would do DFK, DATY or BBFS if they know the guys. With street girls you need to spell the deals out in details. If you leave out any services, they may be tempted to ask for more money in the room.
People outside of La Zona are mostly nice, warm, good, honest, helpful, dignified, more so than people in big US cities.
Relax and enjoy your time in Tijuana. Report any helpful infos to the bros.
I had couple of escort girls from Foxy's before this, that went without any issues. I was there for 3 nights, nothing else bad happened, and the staff was very courteous talking to me.
So I think (hope) they did not have any issues with me.
I imagine she had some trouble with another client, and to dissuade me from pursuing her they told me she is a transvestite.
Another guess I have is that the security guy may have meant Lesbian / Butch but mixed up the English translation.
The Queens lady communicating with me did say she had a threesome with Manie in an effort to prove she knows Manie is a woman.
So Manie is perhaps a lesbian with butch tendencies.
I am still going with the assumption that HK saved me from trouble, most of the comments from seniors also indicate that.
Wow. That was potentially a nightmare! Not sure what to make of it. I suspect it's one of three scenarios:
1 -he's a tranny that obviously caused issues with a past guest.
2 -Not a tranny but caused too much trouble in the past.
3 - And I suspect this is most likely given the sequence of events. Security did not like something about you. For them to come to you, basically search your room, before Manie arrived, tells me they suspected you of something. And then to have a girl arrive immediately after that made them nervous. The "camera" story is obviously bogus since you had no one there. But they were suspicious of something.
I've been going to Zone Norte for more than 10 years, left the scene for two years and then came back, the girls will recognize you if they see you with their friends and obviously if you enjoy their company and keep repeating, most will tell their friends to go and take a ficha from you. Street girls are the same, but I hardly see them talking to anyone other than clients. Meseros surely will remember you, if you leave tips or if they rip you off. There's many horror stories about mongers being robbed by a working gal or at least the puta helped the scums who did it.
It's OK to take precautions, just remember things are way different down there and the primary reason you are being accepted is not because you are handsome, but because of the hard earned dollars. Most will try anything to take that away from us.
CountryMan54
07-24-18, 17:09
The gloom and doom reports from a poster about security risks in Tijuana are inaccurate and way too pessimistic.
I have been going to Tijuana almost every weekend for 18 years and have not been robbed, threatened or had anything stolen from me, ever. I used to park in the US and walked / cabbed over, but in the past few years driving over and back with SENTRI / GE has been far quicker and safer. I got stopped a few times by policias, but they could never steal anything from me. Just hold your wallet and all cash / valuables in your hands while they search and they could do nothing.
Remember due to their crime situations, Mexican policias operates under different rules than the US. They can stop people and cars for search if they have their probable causes. They stop a lot of California cars because Mexicans would drive with expired US registrations to avoid Mexico's taxes. I have seen them check registrations and quickly let cars go within 1 minutes without searches.
As long as you exercise caution like in any big cities in the US, don't get falling-down drunk on the streets and don't get cornered in dead-end alleys, rateros won't be able to rob you..Thank you for this I am going first tine in 25 years in a couple of weeks and all the bad things I was reading was making me nervous! You are a lucky man to have been fucking gorgeous Latinas for 18 years in KY where I am from they are few and far between in my opinion Latinas are most beautiful women in the world!
Captain Solo
07-24-18, 18:00
Hotel Leyva has changed its name. It hangs a gold sign in front on Constitucion, Posada de Santiago.
Las Posadas. Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Posadas
Las Posadas is Spanish for lodging, or accommodation, which in this case refers to the inn in the story of the nativity of Jesus in Nazareth.
It's ironic that the hotel is named as a welcoming place for wearied travelers and unwanted visitors, inspired by a major religious event that is celebrated every year by peoples all over the world. I hope the owner of Posada de Santiago knows his hotel is in La Zona Roja, catering almost entirely to putas and mongers, fornicating all night in his rooms. It could be interpreted as an offense and pissed off those religious fanatics.
Whatever he does, he should never link his hotel to anything related to Muslim prophets, as that can bring him big problems hehe.
Dcrist0527
07-24-18, 19:13
Good to hear. Thanks for reporting the good and bad. And I'd agree, without any other issues popping up, right or wrong, their issue is likely with her.
Thanks again.
I had couple of escort girls from Foxy's before this, that went without any issues. I was there for 3 nights, nothing else bad happened, and the staff was very courteous talking to me.
So I think (hope) they did not have any issues with me.
I imagine she had some trouble with another client, and to dissuade me from pursuing her they told me she is a transvestite.
Another guess I have is that the security guy may have meant Lesbian / Butch but mixed up the English translation.
The Queens lady communicating with me did say she had a threesome with Manie in an effort to prove she knows Manie is a woman.
So Manie is perhaps a lesbian with butch tendencies.
I am still going with the assumption that HK saved me from trouble, most of the comments from seniors also indicate that.
Dcrist0527
07-24-18, 19:31
The Captain was spot on with that post. Don't be blind to the risks. And anything is possible. I take the doom and gloomers at face value. They speak to their experiences and maybe I'd feel that same way.
There is no doubt in my mind that in general, Mexicans would like to separate me from my greenbacks. But I also believe most would do that by legitiimate means. Speaking for myself, there is no doubt in my mind that they don't love me for my looks. They want my money. But they offer goods, or in the best cases, services! LOL.
I will say this. I find Mexicans that I've met to be honest, hard working, good people. Proud. Would they love to sell me a trinket? Of course. But as someone who only visits every few months, I've become very familiar with many vendors on Revolucion. They are generally good people. I have very friendly conversations with several of them each day I'm there. I mention this only to say that you always need to be aware and be cautious. But I also think you don't need to be a standoffish jerk. There is a fine line there. But going about life thinking everyone is trying to rip you off is miserable. If I felt that way, I would not return!
Use your smarts and you'll be fine. You can have the time of your life there.
Thank you for this I am going first tine in 25 years in a couple of weeks and all the bad things I was reading was making me nervous! You are a lucky man to have been fucking gorgeous Latinas for 18 years in KY where I am from they are few and far between in my opinion Latinas are most beautiful women in the world!
These are the 3 HK girls I took arriba. Had drinks with cherry and Junita first and they were all over me, grabbing my dick, rubbing their ass on top of me.
At end of drink they wanted to go up and I agreed given the good vibe. I got reasonable service, CBJ, multiple positions, no blocking, but no passion or intimacy.
I suspect my lack of Spanish contributed towards that, but given their general approach I don't think they get intimate at all.
All of them quoted 80, which I countered with 60, and they all settled at 70.
Chanel was one of the girls standing between the two sections, when I asked for drinks she said she only does sex. (I got this answer from couple other girls standing there as well).
I walked on. On my way back she grabbed me and started talking. She was my type, cute face, big boobs and ass so I agreed to go arriba.
She was bit more into it than the others, we had some conversation about her kids, where she is from etc. She also got wet during fucking to the extent that she queefed, she was embarrassed but I enjoyed more than with other two.
I asked her why she does not do drinks or private dance, she said she does not like being grabbed (she said she does not like and gestured grabbing).
Captain Solo
07-25-18, 06:59
To Countryman54.
Tijuana probably has the hottest, best-looking girls from all over Mexico work the bars and alley, all gather conveniently within 1 small block.
HK has the highest density of hot girls compared to any bar in the world, well, except bars in Bangkok, Pattaya, Manilla, AC. HK girls come in all kinds of sizes, shapes, skin complexion, personalities, and are usually nice, pretty, fun, flirty. I had problems finding pretty girls that suit my taste in all major mongering spots in the world, but I always find multiple choices in HK or Tijuana in every visit. Never, ever went home without good actions.
Guys living further from the border can't visit often, but Drcrist snagged a very good deal with RT flight from Atlanta to SD including 3 hotel nights for $317. For the cost of 1 hour with an average US escort, the bros can fly into SD and spend 3, 4 nights having fun and having sex with pretty Latinas. That's a good, sexy alternative.
A lot of Tijuana girls have pretty, gentle, angelic faces with sexy, well-proportioned bodies. If you check out the civies clubs outside of La Zona, you may run into a few sweetest-looking girls that make you quickly fall in love hehe.
I arrived late, around 11:30 pm, checked into the hotel, showered and freshened up. Then I hit HK. I went to sit in the back bar because it was really packed. After awhile I met Maricella from Sinaloa and her sister (I think her name was Elizabeth). Maricella was very hot and horny, giving me lots of kisses and grabbing my crotch. She called her sister over to grab it too! After awhile Maricella offered me a threesome! She said she was showing her sister the ropes and offered $100 total! After clarifying the deal, making sure it was $100 for both, she said yes, it was correct. So off we go to my room and undress. Maricella sucked me first to get me hard as her sister gave me passionate kisses. Then Maricella mounted me and rode for awhile until I came. Then she ripped off the condom and told her sister to mount me. As she did so, Maricella told me it was her sister's first time. We did it in a few positions while Maricella sat nearby and let me finger her, then she flipped as I was doing her sister in doggie and wanted me to finger her ass. Oh god! She went crazy! Then the sisters switched and I fucked Maricella in missionary. It was my first threesome ever and the best hour or so of my life! Afterwards, we showered and dressed before going back down.
I ventured into HK in the early afternoon, around 2 pm and found Juliya, a blonde from Sinaloa. We went upstairs to the room and she started with a blowjob. She was a funny girl (I speak Spanish) and she started laughing because I was talking to her during sex. She says she always laughs if someone talks to her. So she climbs on top of me and starts to grinds and she starts laughing really hard because I was staring into her eyes. She stopped and asked that I look at her nice breasts instead. She couldn't continue and asked if we could change positions, so we went to doggie, her favorite. I entered her and pounded as she softly moaned. Eventually I finished and pulled out. She rolled over and tweeted! She was embarrassed and said she's never done that before and was trying to get all of the air out of her pussy before she got up. Eventually she did get up and go peepee and when she returned, she happily said all the air came out!
Later on Sunday I had a Disney fetish and met Monica from Monterrey. She was a tall, thin blonde dressed like Minnie Mouse. She is about to turn 22 and she told me she had three kids, twin boys that are 4 and a daughter that is 2. We go to the room and undressed. She told me she couldn't do a blowjob because she has a retainer in her mouth. She sat and played with my dick to get it hard. She is a funny girl, full of energy. We talked for a long time as she continued to play with me, then got on top. She bounced up and down for a bit, then asked what position I wanted to do. I asked her which was her favorite and she said doggie. So I got behind her and started pumping. We went at it for awhile as she moaned and got a little loud before I exploded inside her. Afterwards we laid in bed and she showed me photos of her kids. They are quite cute. She told me that she was returning to Monterrey because her mother was caring for them and she missed her kids. She said she was no longer coming back to HK. She invited me to visit her and offered a room in her mother's house (she said her mom has room for me and I didn't need to stay in a hotel). We exchanged numbers and have stayed in contact since I returned. As I am taking my daughter to Disneyland soon, I am not sure what to think when I see Minnie Mouse! I think my mind will wander back to a thin, long legged blonde in HK!
So my last escapade was Aytana from Sonora. I had seen her all night, but she was always with someone. She usually stands in the middle near the stairs. She is a dirty blond and was wearing a white bikini. I finally saw her come back in around 3:45 am and I grabbed her and took her to a booth. She ordered a drink, then asked me to touch her body. So I did! After finishing her drink, she looks at me and says 'Do you want sex? I said 'Yes!' Then she said 'Let's go'. So we go to the room and she takes her bikini off and she looked great! She asked if I wanted a blowjob and started rubbing and sucking. Once she got me hard, she climbed on top and started to grind, moaning so softly, then picked up speed and said 'fuck!' She had an orgasm. She slowed down a little, then picked up speed again, breathing really fast and hard, moaning a little louder. She got a 2nd one. We changed positions and we got into missionary. She pulled me slowly inside her and let me go at it. She spread her legs wide to give me full penetration into her tight, wet body. After pumping in and out, her breathing got heavy and fast and her moaning got louder. A few minutes later she got orgasm #3 right before I finished. Afterwards she gave me a sweet kiss before she got up and got dressed. We chatted and I found out she has a little 2 year old son. We traded numbers so we can stay in contact and told me to contact her before I decide to return so we can be in Tijuana at the same time. I promised I would and I would really like to met her again. A very nice girl.
Chanel was one of the girls standing between the two sections, when I asked for drinks she said she only does sex. (I got this answer from couple other girls standing there as well).
I walked on. On my way back she grabbed me and started talking. She was my type, cute face, big boobs and ass so I agreed to go arriba.
She was bit more into it than the others, we had some conversation about her kids, where she is from etc. She also got wet during fucking to the extent that she queefed, she was embarrassed but I enjoyed more than with other two.
I asked her why she does not do drinks or private dance, she said she does not like being grabbed (she said she does not like and gestured grabbing).Hmm weird, usually chicas that standing between the two sections rail are open for grabbing for a $1.
ScatManDoo
07-26-18, 22:52
I ventured into HK in the early afternoon, around 2 pm and found Juliya, a blonde from Sinaloa. We went upstairs...
Later on Sunday I had a Disney fetish and met Monica from Monterrey. She was a tall, thin blonde dressed like Minnie Mouse. She is about to turn 22 and she told me she had three kids, twin boys that are 4 and a daughter that is 2. We go to the room and undressed...
So my last escapade was Aytana from Sonora. I had seen her all night, but she was always with someone. She usually stands in the middle near the stairs. She is a dirty blond and was wearing a white bikini. I finally saw her come back in around 3:45 am and I grabbed her and took her to a booth...Three blondes out of three citas. Some might say that you have "A Type".
The Tall Man
07-27-18, 04:29
I arrived late, around 11:30 pm, checked into the hotel, showered and freshened up. Then I hit HK. I went to sit in the back bar because it was really packed. After awhile I met Maricella from Sinaloa and her sister (I think her name was Elizabeth). Maricella was very hot and horny, giving me lots of kisses and grabbing my crotch. She called her sister over to grab it too! After awhile Maricella offered me a threesome! She said she was showing her sister the ropes and offered $100 total! After clarifying the deal, making sure it was $100 for both, she said yes, it was correct. So off we go to my room and undress. Maricella sucked me first to get me hard as her sister gave me passionate kisses. Then Maricella mounted me and rode for awhile until I came. Then she ripped off the condom and told her sister to mount me. As she did so, Maricella told me it was her sister's first time. We did it in a few positions while Maricella sat nearby and let me finger her, then she flipped as I was doing her sister in doggie and wanted me to finger her ass. Oh god! She went crazy! Then the sisters switched and I fucked Maricella in missionary. It was my first threesome ever and the best hour or so of my life! Afterwards, we showered and dressed before going back down.Sweet report, as the saying goes I'd much rather be a lucky man than a smart one, you got lucky, and two sisters to boot, wow!.
TTM.
OneInTheDugOut
07-27-18, 04:48
Asked this before, I've failed in all 4 of my trips. I just want to titfuck. I don't see why I would need to go arriba but can never get it in the lap Dance room. Will girls negotiate before? Or once in the room? Do I just say can we titfuck without arriba? My fetish is dry humping so last time I got really comfortable just wakes up behind Chica and grinding for a dollar. Now need this one missing piece for a perfect trip.
SallySally
07-27-18, 06:15
Asked this before, I've failed in all 4 of my trips. I just want to titfuck. I don't see why I would need to go arriba but can never get it in the lap Dance room. Will girls negotiate before? Or once in the room? Do I just say can we titfuck without arriba? My fetish is dry humping so last time I got really comfortable just wakes up behind Chica and grinding for a dollar. Now need this one missing piece for a perfect trip.I don't see why you couldn't, they've offered to suck my dick in the private room before, do you speak Spanish?
If not. Ask them this exactly or show them this text:
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SallySally
07-27-18, 06:30
I was in Hong Kong last week.
1) I walked around the club last week asking how much everyone's opening price was out of ten girls all were between 80-100. Then I went and got the free lap dance using the coupon and started talking to the girl that gave me the dance, her starting price was $80, I asked her how much in pesos she said 1500, I told her I'd think about it. Then later countered her 1000 pesos. She said no she can't do that. So I asked her if she's working tomorrow, she said she's not, so I asked her if she wanted to come to my room tomorrow. She said she can't because she has family matters but she would go now. Then I countered her again and said 1000 if she wants to go now. She said she can't do that.
Then what she said next surprised me because of all of the hullabaloo here. She said, somewhat reluctantly, she can't do 1000 pesos because Hong Kong charges her $20 USD to leave while she is working. I then clarified with her that Hong Kong was charging her and not the meseros taking a cut or Cascadas.
She then did the calculations on her phone, using 19 as an exchange rate and said 1000 pesos is too little because Hong Kong would take 20, so she would only get $32. Mind you this girl said she was working at Hong Kong less than 2 months. Her attitude also told me she was less jaded.
2) The next day in the morning I met Chanel, the girl with pink hair and a ridiculous ass. Same thing, took her to private dance and negotiated with her, I asked her how much Hong Kong charges her. She said $40, that's why she charges $80 because it's half and half. But she settled on $1200 pesos, but the service was sub par. I don't know if Hong Kong charges the girls in the morning more, or if Chanel was just saying $40 because she wanted to get more money out of me LOL.
3) That night I did the same thing, took free private dance. I forget her name, but she was a bit older, and was definitely a hardened working girl, I only took her cause she had a ridiculous ass. Asked how much she charges, said 1500 pesos. I asked her how much Hong Kong takes. She said 300 pesos. I told her I only had 1000 pesos. Then she said fine but don't tell anyone that I'm fucking you for 1000 pesos because they tell us to charge 80 minimum. Then when we got to the room the service was shit, at one point she was like because you paid so little I'm just going to lay her starfish style. LOL, she ended up riding me and doggy, but with an attitude. The newer and younger girls are more fun, although I'm guessing the newer girls are more likely to stick to Hong Kong's suggested higher prices while the older, hardened working girls are more likely to take the lower price because they understand they make money off of volume and they can get away with it. The newer girls might not understand the economics of whoring that well yet.
What you guys can do to confirm what I just found out is this:
You: cuánto cobras.
Her: cien.
You: te voy a dar mil pesos.
Her: no puedo.
You: pues, entonces vamos a negociar por un ratito, cuánto te cobra Hong Kong?
The script ends here because the last clause was how much does Hong Kong charge you? she may or may not tell you $20 depending on how comfortable she is with you and how classified this information is from Hong Kong. This way you guys can get and 3 analysis of price situation in Hong Kong.
Three blondes out of three citas. Some might say that you have "A Type".Yeah, I have a thing for blondes. What can I say?
Sweet report, as the saying goes I'd much rather be a lucky man than a smart one, you got lucky, and two sisters to boot, wow!.
TTM.Thanks! I think I was lucky too! That's why I wanted Maricella to clarify the deal before going up. I didn't want to get to the room and find out I had to pay each one. But on the way up, I heard Maricella explain to her sister that normally it would be $180 minimum for two girls, but since it was her first time, she was offering the deal to me. And she also told her that she would give her the full amount. She was just there to make it more fun. And believe me, it was! Both were hot and horny.
Thanks! I think I was lucky too! That's why I wanted Maricella to clarify the deal before going up. I didn't want to get to the room and find out I had to pay each one. But on the way up, I heard Maricella explain to her sister that normally it would be $180 minimum for two girls, but since it was her first time, she was offering the deal to me. And she also told her that she would give her the full amount. She was just there to make it more fun. And believe me, it was! Both were hot and horny.You must be a really good looking dude.
Captain Solo
07-27-18, 17:04
To Sally Sally.
Good investigative work. You are doing all of us a big favor fidgting pussy inflation in La Zona.
I suspected all along that HK has a way of taking a cut of the girls' arribas. It's I the most lucrative piece of the business in La Zona. So the club is not taking proceeds from the pussies rental business, just charging the girls for time off from the club. Damn. That explains why the door men always take down their names every time they walk out with guys. Depending on how aggressive Mexican prosecutors are, those charges can still be interpreted as making profit off prostitution.
Every dollar squeezed out of mongers in La Zona is finely divided among the players. Even Cascada kicks back 25% of the room charges to the girls. They never admit to it but they get a share of everything milked out of mongers.
Since you speak good Spanish, you should teach the girls how to seduce guys and make big money by always looking, feeling, smelling good, to act like the most passionate GFs or the horniest porn stars in bed, and of course be very nice to the bros and charge only un MIL con propina for each passionate arriba.
Captain Solo
07-27-18, 19:42
To Seatlle66.
You got a good deal with a sisters' training session hehe. I would love to train new HK girls anytime. Spanish-speaking bros should coach Hk girls to stop doing their star-fish routines and show lots more interests in fucking the guys with expressions and acts of love, care, pleasures, horniness etc. They would go long ways and help girls do lots more business with their puta careers.
There are a few sister pairs working in HK, some are hot, some are not.
Marilyn has her older sister working on and off in HK, their faces look alike. Marilyn is on of the hottest girl in HK. Some night she would get picked up for the hotel with only 5, 10 minutes in between. But her sister looks lumpy and high-mileage with overblown boobs and butts jobs. She look ridiculous walking in a slump with so much excess weigh on her. She turns me off. Would be a waste of time to do her. I would never do both of them together. Marilyn went off having a baby, gained some weight and has not returned to work.
Sol and Hachya are step sisters, both pretty and skinny. Sol is older and more charming, very sweet and gentle, while Hachya is very aggressive, sometimes offensive, with tattoos on her arms and legs, suspected a hard-core lesbian. When approached for a threesome, Sol was open to it but Hachya got all offended. She got pissed off big time that I would even consider fucking both of them in the same bed. Sol has not done much business and has quit working in HK for over a year. Hachya is still working but not doing much business.
HK and Tropical have lesbian couples who would do threesomes. I hate to see the butches' jealousy, hetting pissed off and acting rough when they witness guys who can make their GFs feel much hornier, sexier and better-fucked than they hehe.
ClamSlammer
07-27-18, 21:42
I was in Hong Kong last week.
1) I walked around the club last week asking how much everyone's opening price was out of ten girls all were between 80-100. Then I went and got the free lap dance using the coupon and started talking to the girl that gave me the dance, her starting price was $80, I asked her how much in pesos she said 1500, I told her I'd think about it. Then later countered her 1000 pesos. She said no she can't do that. So I asked her if she's working tomorrow, she said she's not, so I asked her if she wanted to come to my room tomorrow. She said she can't because she has family matters but she would go now. Then I countered her again and said 1000 if she wants to go now. She said she can't do that..As a ten-year HK vet who's developed several personal (no cash paid ever) relationships with the chicas over the years, who's lived with chicas, visited their hometowns and families, babysat their kids, went to their graduations, etc I can unequivocally state, with 100% confidence, that Hong Kong does Not charge the chicas a single centavo to go arriba or leave the bar. Pimping is illegal in Mexico, therefore the bars cannot withhold any money from the chicas that's related to prostitution. Management may or may not encourage the chicas to accept a minimum amount for arriba but if they do it is because they want the chicas in the bar selling $9 fichas instead of upstairs where the owner makes nothing. The fact that the chicas gave 3 different amounts ($20 US /$40 US /$300 MX) as far as management withholding proves that they are all lying. There's no way in hell HK charges chicas to leave the bar.
SallySally
07-27-18, 23:36
As a ten-year HK vet who's developed several personal (no cash paid ever) relationships with the chicas over the years, who's lived with chicas, visited their hometowns and families, babysat their kids, went to their graduations, etc I can unequivocally state, with 100% confidence, that Hong Kong does Not charge the chicas a single centavo to go arriba or leave the bar. Pimping is illegal in Mexico, therefore the bars cannot withhold any money from the chicas that's related to prostitution. Management may or may not encourage the chicas to accept a minimum amount for arriba but if they do it is because they want the chicas in the bar selling $9 fichas instead of upstairs where the owner makes nothing. The fact that the chicas gave 3 different amounts ($20 US /$40 US /$300 MX) as far as management withholding proves that they are all lying. There's no way in hell HK charges chicas to leave the bar.I agree with you that these girls could be lying. But what I encourage other bros on this board do is just ask the girls to confirm what I found out. Yes the different charges the girls quoted seems a bit odd, but does not go as far as to prove that they are lying, after all girls could be charged different amounts for how long they've been working at the club. The one that quoted me $300 MX was definitely working there for a while, grandfathered into old practices per say. Alternatively, what would these girls gain from telling me HK takes X amount, I already told them I already have a set amount I wasn't willing to go over LOL. Also is it really out of this world that HK is taking a cut even if it's illegal, LOL this is Mexico, everything is being done behind closed doors.
Anyway, I'm not here to argue with you. I just wanted to report what I found out from multiple (3) girls, how you guys choose to interpret this information is up to you. The best thing to do would be get a higher sample size, so go ask more girls.
Been to HK a few times and next time I go I want to get a BBBJ, how would I ask for this and what additional should I expect to tip?
ScatManDoo
07-28-18, 01:25
As a ten-year HK vet who's developed several personal (no cash paid ever) relationships with the chicas over the years, who's lived with chicas, visited their hometowns and families, babysat their kids, went to their graduations, etc I can unequivocally state, with 100% confidence, that Hong Kong does Not charge the chicas a single centavo to go arriba or leave the bar. Pimping is illegal in Mexico, therefore the bars cannot withhold any money from the chicas that's related to prostitution. Management may or may not encourage the chicas to accept a minimum amount for arriba but if they do it is because they want the chicas in the bar selling $9 fichas instead of upstairs where the owner makes nothing. The fact that the chicas gave 3 different amounts ($20 US /$40 US /$300 MX) as far as management withholding proves that they are all lying. There's no way in hell HK charges chicas to leave the bar.ClamSlammer you are a genuine intelligent veteran of the Tijuana scene, and would never get suckered into believing that there's this double secret fee that HK is charging its chicas. From a guy with six posts to his name! Only a sucker would believe that after all that has been written over the years by others with genuine inside knowledge. I laugh at who believed him.
Spot on. Anyone believing chicas' stories about HK taking a cut off their fees is a sucker. If wildly different amounts chicas make up on a spot isn't a dead giveaway. I don't know what is.
HK does make money off arribas, but it's just short term rental fees, that's it.
As a ten-year HK vet who's developed several personal (no cash paid ever) relationships with the chicas over the years, who's lived with chicas, visited their hometowns and families, babysat their kids, went to their graduations, etc I can unequivocally state, with 100% confidence, that Hong Kong does Not charge the chicas a single centavo to go arriba or leave the bar. Pimping is illegal in Mexico, therefore the bars cannot withhold any money from the chicas that's related to prostitution. Management may or may not encourage the chicas to accept a minimum amount for arriba but if they do it is because they want the chicas in the bar selling $9 fichas instead of upstairs where the owner makes nothing. The fact that the chicas gave 3 different amounts ($20 US /$40 US /$300 MX) as far as management withholding proves that they are all lying. There's no way in hell HK charges chicas to leave the bar.
I have a choice of going for my 2nd time overnight either tomorrow (Saturday) or Monday. If I go Monday then staying overnight will be cheaper with the VIP card and could even get a jacuzzi room. But if the girls from HK are only allowed to spend half an hour with.
You, that seems a waste of time (rushed) to spend just a few minutes in the jacuzzi. And will they even do that, since they apparently don't like getting their hair wet or spoiling their make-up?
If I asked a waiter at HK for a girl that is happy to shower or bath and receive DATY, is that information they reliably know?
Are the shaving foam shows as frequent on a Monday night as on a Saturday?
Would I be better off in one of the other bars to find a girl to stay longer, have a jacuzzi, maybe spend up to an hour? I'd rather a 6-7 that gives great sex than a 9 that gives lousy sex so looks aren't too important.
Sorry for the intense questions. I don't get a chance to do this very often so want to make the most of it. Cheers.
Captain Solo
07-28-18, 05:15
To Simmer,
Monday wins hands down. You have Cascada's big 80% discount for rooms, plus HK's coupons for 2 free drinks and free lap dance. It will never get better than that.
Meseros would know shit about the girls, much less how much they charge for long time. It's all up to you to deal with the chicas. You can ask among HK's girls for an extended session with shower and DATY. If you are a HK regular and buy them lots of fichas, they may do it, but it would be likely expensive.
It may be easier and cheaper to ask street girls, quite a few are hot and personable. After 8 PM, lots of hot street girls would show up to work. Ask Valentina in front of rest Azul. She's pretty, nice, clean, with hard body and speaks adequate Anglais. She's hot and sexy and knows how to bring maximum sexual joys to both parties. She would figure max 3 sessions per hour, so about 600 to 1000 pesos. A few other girls near hotel Mini, like Jury and Katrina, would do BBBJ and BBFS for the right offers. These girls are known for nice, clean, tight non-fishy pussies. You can have sexy 6 hours in bed with them for the same half hour cost with HK girls. Talk to street girls and propose " seize (or hocho or mil) cientos para una hora suckie fuckie sin ropa."
Girls in other bars are old, ugly, skanky, and strangely, they want the same money as hot HK girls hehe.
We all have limited time and money to spend in La Zona. Hope you will find my suggestions helpful.
HK's shaving cream shows should be as frequent on both floors on Monday, Tuesday as in weekends HK and Cascada's special discounts are so good on Monday and Tuesday, hard to pass up.
Captain Solo
07-28-18, 07:36
Well. This is just another ignorant newbie talking out!
By laws HK cannot own its own hotel to facilitate prostitution. Cascada is owned by someone else, but we never know the kinds of kick backs HK gets from Cascada. Mexico is very corrupt. Every one, including the policias and may be the Army, has his hands out for graft, bribes and kick backs.
Even without your help, HK owner would figure out ways to make money off putas' $100 fuck sessions.
You must be a really good looking dude.I don't know. The women there all told me I am handsome. I am 52 and look like I'm in my 30's. I also treat the women nicely, but I am shy.
All of the chicks I was with my last trip were great, no star-fishes. I just talked to them and got them to be comfortable on the way to the room. And in a few cases, I had them laughing and joking around with me! Knowing some Spanish helps a guy know the girls better, as well as treating them well. They knew I was a gentleman and they appreciated it. I think that was why I got great action in bed, kisses afterwards and a few personal numbers. I would recommend all the guys to learn a little Spanish, even if it is a few phrases. It goes a long way to opening up their personalities.
To Seatlle66.
You got a good deal with a sisters' training session hehe. I would love to train new HK girls anytime. Spanish-speaking bros should coach Hk girls to stop doing their star-fish routines and show lots more interests in fucking the guys with expressions and acts of love, care, pleasures, horniness etc. They would go long ways and help girls do lots more business with their puta careers.
There are a few sister pairs working in HK, some are hot, some are not.
Marilyn has her older sister working on and off in HK, their faces look alike. Marilyn is on of the hottest girl in HK. Some night she would get picked up for the hotel with only 5, 10 minutes in between. But her sister looks lumpy and high-mileage with overblown boobs and butts jobs. She look ridiculous walking in a slump with so much excess weigh on her. She turns me off. Would be a waste of time to do her. I would never do both of them together..
ClamSlammer
07-28-18, 09:46
I agree with you that these girls could be lying. But what I encourage other bros on this board do is just ask the girls to confirm what I found out. Yes the different charges the girls quoted seems a bit odd, but does not go as far as to prove that they are lying, after all girls could be charged different amounts for how long they've been working at the club. The one that quoted me $300 MX was definitely working there for a while, grandfathered into old practices per say. Alternatively, what would these girls gain from telling me HK takes X amount, I already told them I already have a set amount I wasn't willing to go over LOL. Also is it really out of this world that HK is taking a cut even if it's illegal, LOL this is Mexico, everything is being done behind closed doors..The time and effort to report is experience is appreciated. But you are spreading some disinformation. Let me start by saying that I have access to a great deal of information about HK that most mongers don't have access to. On another discussion site, other posters were known to specifically ask me for information regarding various happenings at HK. I've been called the "CIA of HK. " Trust me, I know a lot of what goes down at HK. If chicas get suspended, I know why. I know which chicas failed their medical exam. I know which chicas are banging which managers. I know which meseros are banging which chicas. I know which chicas are pregnant. I know which one just had abortions. I know which ones get beat up by their novios at home. I know which ones have augmentations scheduled. I know about new hires before they hit the floor for the first time. I know which chicas are fighting with which others and why. I know about security incidents that happen. I know when chicas get assaulted / raped / drugged / robbed in the rooms. I'm not saying I know everything, but I probably know the most out of any message board poster. My track record of providing inside info on HK is proven. I've never been wrong. Those of you that followed the other site know this.
That being said, I can tell you with 100% absolute certainty that HK does not charge chicas a fee for going arriba. The first chica just said that to you to make you think she's earning less in order to squeeze a few more dollars out of you. It doesn't matter that you said that you had a set amount you weren't willing to go over. Those words mean absolutely nothing during the negotiation process. The second and third chicas you made the mistake of asking them "how much" HK takes. It would have been better to ask "IF" HK takes a cut. By asking "how much" you are basically telling them that you know HK takes an undetermined cut of their proceeds. So they just made up an amount so you'll again think that they make less than you're paying them, squeezing more dollars out of you. The fact that 3 chicas all told you different amounts in two different currencies proves that they are all lying.
Next time you go order a drink, tip the mesero $1 and ask him if the house takes a cut of arriba money. He will likely tell you the truth because he has no financial incentive not to and he'll think he might gain a regular tipping customer by telling the truth.
DrMcNaughty
07-28-18, 14:16
If you have some game girls will stay longer. Stock fridge with bev. Buy a bottle of tequila across the street. Bluetooth speaker with some good music. I always get master suite, jacuzzi fun is tough even w an HR. Nice to have but I've seen many girls get more excited about stripper pole. Make the party happen in your room!
Def more shave cream shows Saturday. Not my thing.
I have given a waiter opp to find me a girl once, brought 3 diff girls, I end up feeling bad for girl for being dragged to me by the dumb ass waiter. Fuck that shit! The HK hunt is half the fun!
I have a choice of going for my 2nd time overnight either tomorrow (Saturday) or Monday. If I go Monday then staying overnight will be cheaper with the VIP card and could even get a jacuzzi room. But if the girls from HK are only allowed to spend half an hour with.
You, that seems a waste of time (rushed) to spend just a few minutes in the jacuzzi. And will they even do that, since they apparently don't like getting their hair wet or spoiling their make-up?
If I asked a waiter at HK for a girl that is happy to shower or bath and receive DATY, is that information they reliably know?
Are the shaving foam shows as frequent on a Monday night as on a Saturday?.
DrMcNaughty
07-28-18, 14:33
Literally makes me want to puke! Gnarly and gross. To each his own broheim yuck!
I was in Hong Kong last week.
1) I walked around the club last week asking how much everyone's opening price was out of ten girls all were between 80-100. Then I went and got the free lap dance using the coupon and started talking to the girl that gave me the dance, her starting price was $80, I asked her how much in pesos she said 1500, I told her I'd think about it. Then later countered her 1000 pesos. She said no she can't do that. So I asked her if she's working tomorrow, she said she's not, so I asked her if she wanted to come to my room tomorrow. She said she can't because she has family matters but she would go now. Then I countered her again and said 1000 if she wants to go now. She said she can't do that.
Then what she said next surprised me because of all of the hullabaloo here. She said, somewhat reluctantly, she can't do 1000 pesos because Hong Kong charges her $20 USD to leave while she is working. I then clarified with her that Hong Kong was charging her and not the meseros taking a cut or Cascadas.
She then did the calculations on her phone, using 19 as an exchange rate and said 1000 pesos is too little because Hong Kong would take 20, so she would only get $32. Mind you this girl said she was working at Hong Kong less than 2 months. Her attitude also told me she was less jaded..
Dcrist0527
07-28-18, 15:35
I'm not sure what to think. First, I'm fairly sure HK is well-connected and doesn't live in fear of being called out for prostitution. I'm not a Mexican lawyer but I think they can structure it as an "extra break fee" or something like that.
I agree that the differing amounts are curious.
But I still cannot understand why they keep track of who is leaving. There's obviously a reason why they write her name down. If it was simply to keep track of fichas, well they already do that when you buy it.
Spot on. Anyone believing chicas' stories about HK taking a cut off their fees is a sucker. If wildly different amounts chicas make up on a spot isn't a dead giveaway. I don't know what is.
HK does make money off arribas, but it's just short term rental fees, that's it.
Been to HK a few times and next time I go I want to get a BBBJ, how would I ask for this and what additional should I expect to tip?Chupas sin condon? - BBBJ.
Aviator400
07-28-18, 17:35
I have a choice of going for my 2nd time overnight either tomorrow (Saturday) or Monday. If I go Monday then staying overnight will be cheaper with the VIP card and could even get a jacuzzi room. But if the girls from HK are only allowed to spend half an hour with.
You, that seems a waste of time (rushed) to spend just a few minutes in the jacuzzi. And will they even do that, since they apparently don't like getting their hair wet or spoiling their make-up?
If I asked a waiter at HK for a girl that is happy to shower or bath and receive DATY, is that information they reliably know?
Are the shaving foam shows as frequent on a Monday night as on a Saturday?
Would I be better off in one of the other bars to find a girl to stay longer, have a jacuzzi, maybe spend up to an hour? I'd rather a 6-7 that gives great sex than a 9 that gives lousy sex so looks aren't too important.
Sorry for the intense questions. I don't get a chance to do this very often so want to make the most of it. Cheers.I have had a couple of girls that love the Jacuzzi and would play with me in it.
Man that is fun.
Others don't want to risk getting their hair wet or makeup ruined.
The girls will spend up to an hour with you, but if you want them to stay over an hour you are expected to buy a bucket.
Fell asleep with one girl and had the staff knocking on the door after about 90 minutes.
She said that if she stays over without the monger buying a bucket, she will be fined $100.
I bought a bucket just to save her being given grief.
Went back to the club later and she had been sent home as punishment for staying over.
She was not fined the $100.
You can also make arrangements for girls to come to Hotel Cascadas when they are off their shift.
I have gotten a little grief from hotel security, but I have always been able to push back.
I prefer Mondays and Tuesdays.
The shaving cream show, and other kinky shows, do go on weekdays.
The trick to all of this is to negotiate everything ahead of time.
Don't be shy. If the girl has been there more than a week, she has already heard it all!
And since girls in the 6-7 looks range are acceptable to you, you will do well.
Many of the girls in that range are sweethearts and will provide a great time.
There are a few sister pairs working in HK, some are hot, some are not.
Marilyn has her older sister working on and off in HK, their faces look alike. Marilyn is on of the hottest girl in HK. Some night she would get picked up for the hotel with only 5, 10 minutes in between. But her sister looks lumpy and high-mileage with overblown boobs and butts jobs. She look ridiculous walking in a slump with so much excess weigh on her. She turns me off. Would be a waste of time to do her. I would never do both of them together. Marilyn went off having a baby, gained some weight and has not returned to work.
Which Marilyn are you talking about?
The one that has weird shape ass, kind of thick, always wears black outfit, and Sasha's friend!
I've asked some of the girls about the arriba money before, and They all said its all theirs. None for HK- BUT, it was almost two years ago, and I never ask again because I already knew.
Hmmm, interesting. Maybe I'll start asking again and see what they say. I will report back!
I have a choice of going for my 2nd time overnight either tomorrow (Saturday) or Monday. If I go Monday then staying overnight will be cheaper with the VIP card and could even get a jacuzzi room. But if the girls from HK are only allowed to spend half an hour with.
You, that seems a waste of time (rushed) to spend just a few minutes in the jacuzzi. And will they even do that, since they apparently don't like getting their hair wet or spoiling their make-up?
If I asked a waiter at HK for a girl that is happy to shower or bath and receive DATY, is that information they reliably know?
Are the shaving foam shows as frequent on a Monday night as on a Saturday?
Would I be better off in one of the other bars to find a girl to stay longer, have a jacuzzi, maybe spend up to an hour? I'd rather a 6-7 that gives great sex than a 9 that gives lousy sex so looks aren't too important.
Sorry for the intense questions. I don't get a chance to do this very often so want to make the most of it. Cheers.Of course Monday, It's a no brainier. Saturday is a sausage fest!
- Ask the girls if They're willing to jump to jacuzzi. If you rent the jacuzzi room, they'll give you a hair cover, so no worries about hairs getting wet.
- I don't think the waiters know about showers and DATY. Find out yourself!
- Yes, They're frequently doing it on Monday too.
- If you're okay with 6-7, It makes a way lot easier and a lot more to choose from hahaha. Really though. The 9 ones are the ones that harder to crack because they don't need to. They can get away with minimal work and still have plenty willing customers just because they're nines and they know it.
Funny how people who speak zero Spanish and hardly ever stepped their foot outside of HK or Azul restaurant love to pontificate about Mexico's prostitution laws. As if they knew anything in Mexico legal system and what goes on between the owners of various adjacent Zone North properties.
How about sticking to fried bar food in Azul and leaving legal advise to the experts.
Captain Solo
07-28-18, 20:45
To Pajdar88.
Seattle88 has the right approach to chicas. Show them with small gestures and whatever little Spanish you have, that you are a nice, fun gentle guy, like them as humans, and won't treat them like a punching bag. Latinas are light-hearted. They like to kid around and smile. You should try to make them feel pretty, sexy and desirable by discreetly groping their butts and their crotches on the way to the room.
My Spanish was learned entirely in Coahuila Universidat. I don't claim great skills in Spanish, nevertheless a few ugly, constipated guys may attack me for it.
Just approach the chicas with a sweet smile, ask them "Chuparme sin condom?" A few new girls would be disgusted, but most would tag on a $20 premium to their original quote. If you want to eat their pussies and suck on their clitoris, "Quiero chuparte la vagina why el CLítoris. " Make sure they douche their vaginas carefully with antiseptic solutions to avoid the big dead fish and infection hehe.
A few street girls would do BBBJ routinely and BBFS for a premium, Jury and Karina at hotel Mini, Perla and Yvonne at Garcia, and a few others like Karla at El Porton. They are known nice, clean, sweet, no dead fish. Other bros have shown they know lots of good deals with street girls. Perhaps they would inform us of special services and good deals by street girls so we can fight pussy inflation in HK.
Captain Solo
07-28-18, 21:18
To DChrist.
HK even record strippers' propinas down to every dollar and customarily the girls would hand over about 25% to the stage butches.
You will notice that chicas always lie for their convenience, but HK is not The Red Cross or the chicas. They would figure ways to make money off the chicas' fuck proceeds.
I stayed in a single room at the seventh floor which is clearly under construction / renovation.
The lift went till floor 6 and I had to take the stairs to 7th floor.
I liked the lighting in what I assume are new rooms, there is recessed blue lights behind and under the bed and on the ceiling, looks nice and sexy.
I had to crop the photos to upload them, the cropped photos are not as clear as I would have wanted them, but still gives a sense of what the room looks like with the new lighting.
But I still cannot understand why they keep track of who is leaving. There's obviously a reason why they write her name down.I think the reason is simple. HK needs the chica in the bar to sell more drinks to make money. You can read about this from several other posts.
I was told by a chica that her room in Cascadas is $50 a night so that is another way HK makes money.
ClamSlammer
07-28-18, 23:33
Funny how people who speak zero Spanish and hardly ever stepped their foot outside of HK or Azul restaurant love to pontificate about Mexico's prostitution laws. As if they knew anything in Mexico legal system and what goes on between the owners of various adjacent Zone North properties.
How about sticking to fried bar food in Azul and leaving legal advise to the experts.I'm not certain the above comment was directed at me but it certainly may well be because I recently cited Mexican prostitution / pimping laws. Let me say that I speak passable Spanish and have no problem holding down everyday conversations. I've traveled all over Mexico so I'm well-versed in life outside Zona Norte. Now allow me to retort:
No one on here is claiming to be a Mexican Supreme Court Justice. We are not discussing complex legal theories here. We are merely discussing whether pimping is legal in Mexico. That is it. A layperson can easily understand a law so simple and discuss topics related to it. Advanced knowledge of law is not required. It's no different than discussing the fact that premeditated murder is illegal. And pimping is illegal in Mexico, except in a handful of jurisdictions which I can't remember right now. Kind of like prostitution is illegal in the USA. Anyhow, pimping is illegal in Baja California, where Zona Norte and Hong Kong are located. And we all know that the law is not always followed, even by those that are sworn to uphold it. But to openly defying anti-pimping laws would expose HK to tremendous legal pressures, and at worst case could even potentially cause closure and seizure by the government. Just look what happened to "The Office" formerly Madonna's on 4 ta. Allegedly broke some laws, got raided, shut down and haven't heard a peep since.
Captain Solo
07-28-18, 23:35
To Asting,
I don't think she hangs out with Sasha. She just had a baby. She showed up in HK to visit her puta friends but has not come back to work for at least 6 months.
Well. This is just another ignorant newbie talking out!
By laws HK cannot own its own hotel to facilitate prostitution. Cascada is owned by someone else, but we never know the kinds of kick backs HK gets from Cascada. Mexico is very corrupt. Every one, including the policias and may be the Army, has his hands out for graft, bribes and kick backs.
Even without your help, HK owner would figure out ways to make money off putas' $100 fuck sessions.For someone who posts a lot in this forum you really know very little or just likes to throw BS around, everybody in Tijuana knows that HK and its hotel are owned by Barra 90, a corporation that actually owns several bars / hotels in the city with similar services, whatever you say that you know about Mexican laws its a lie, there is no restriction for a company to own a bar and a hotel, there isn't one in the United States and its the same in Mexico, the fact that prostitution happens in the hotel its of no consequence, the bar is selling liquor and the hotel is selling stays at its rooms, period.
Boy you must be a republican with all of that "deep state" BS on mexican corruption, Mexico is very corrupt but its very simple, open and honest about it, there is no big conspiracy between all the government branches of law enforcement getting kick backs, HK isn't going to be giving money to everyone who walks in the door with a badge.
Everybody in Mexico knows that the only one that you have to pay off is the guy from "Reglamentos" that's the government institution in charge of checking that the liquor licence and all the permits have been paid, they also check for kids [CodeWord903] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903) inside the bar and the sanitation cards on the girls, with payment to this guy comes also the right to demand of him to protect HK from everybody else, so if "someone" comes in asking for money HK will most likely go to the Reglamentos guy and demand of him to tell that "someone" to F**k off, otherwise HK will stop payments until someone with power in the government makes it clear to the HK owners who they have to give the money to. Usually is the Reglamentos chief who in turn is usually a very close friend / relative of the city mayor or the governor, EVERYONE in Mexico who owns a bar knows this.
If you don't know how things work don't go around making s**t up just to put down a newbie, the fact that you have hundreds of posts doesn't make your statements true and it doesn't make you an expert on everything TIJUANA.
JabberWock
07-29-18, 12:56
When I was at the HK recently I saw that security "sweeps" the bar / stage after a girl is finished dancing. I was sitting with a dancer at the time and asked why. She said security takes the money and divides it up among several people, like the DJ, the bartenders, etc. I don't know specifically if management gets a cut but it wouldn't surprise me.
No it wasn't directed at you. It was directed at a certain Star Wars named chief misinformation spreader on this board.
I'm not certain the above comment was directed at me but it certainly may well be because I recently cited Mexican prostitution / pimping laws. \
Baxter Slade
07-29-18, 16:46
You guys need to take it easy on the Captain. He made it clear in an earlier post that he is only here to entertain us.
CaptainSolo**.
So I am only writing sexy fiction in ISG to entertain the bros.
CountryMan54
07-29-18, 17:05
When I was at the HK recently I saw that security "sweeps" the bar / stage after a girl is finished dancing. I was sitting with a dancer at the time and asked why. She said security takes the money and divides it up among several people, like the DJ, the bartenders, etc. I don't know specifically if management gets a cut but it wouldn't surprise me.So the chicas don't get their tip money?
Long Don Silva
07-29-18, 17:08
I know which chicas are pregnant.I have a trip coming up soon and I have a fetish for pregnant women, like third trimester pregnant. Any intel you have in finding such a girl would be much appreciated since they are unlikely to be working in the bars when pregnant.
ClamSlammer
07-29-18, 17:35
When I was at the HK recently I saw that security "sweeps" the bar / stage after a girl is finished dancing. I was sitting with a dancer at the time and asked why. She said security takes the money and divides it up among several people, like the DJ, the bartenders, etc. I don't know specifically if management gets a cut but it wouldn't surprise me.My favorite spot in HK is at the end of the main bar or the table right next to it, right by the main stage. And I make it a habit of closely watching what happens to the stage tips. The stage handlers, often Elie or Lilo, go up on stage and sweep the money with their feet. Then they neatly arrange it into a stack. They may or may not count it, you can't really tell what's going on in their minds while they're arranging the bills. Then they hand the entire stack to the girl. They withhold nothing. I'm sure of this I've watched in close proximity literally hundreds of times. Usually the girl will tip a few bucks to the stage handler. The money is not taken by security and divided up amongst the staff. The chicas keep 100% of their stage tips and are free to tip as they please.
Dcrist0527
07-30-18, 01:43
Exactly my point. While I can't claim to know every time a chica takes a shit (guess I'm not CIA material), I don't believe HK survives on alcohol sales alone. We talk about all of the corruption in Mexico. Yet, some would have us believe HK owners are above finding a way to milk the girls out of more money.
You are right, Captain. They record everything. Why? They do it for a reason. What's the rule in Mexico? For the dollar. I don't pretend to know a fee schedule or can confirm such a thing. But until someone can come up with a reason they keep track of everything, I strongly believe money is the driving force.
To DChrist.
HK even record strippers' propinas down to every dollar and customarily the girls would hand over about 25% to the stage butches.
You will notice that chicas always lie for their convenience, but HK is not The Red Cross or the chicas. They would figure ways to make money off the chicas' fuck proceeds.
Dcrist0527
07-30-18, 01:46
Sure, I agree. But, my point is, they track the fichas sold. So it's not a mystery who is selling fichas. Yet they still track their ins and outs. If it was all about fichas, they have that info with the brown shirt at the door recording names.
I think the reason is simple. HK needs the chica in the bar to sell more drinks to make money. You can read about this from several other posts.
I was told by a chica that her room in Cascadas is $50 a night so that is another way HK makes money.
ScatManDoo
07-30-18, 03:14
My favorite spot in HK is at the end of the main bar or the table right next to it, right by the main stage. And I make it a habit of closely watching what happens to the stage tips. The stage handlers, often Elie or Lilo, go up on stage and sweep the money with their feet. Then they neatly arrange it into a stack. They may or may not count it, you can't really tell what's going on in their minds while they're arranging the bills. Then they hand the entire stack to the girl. They withhold nothing. I'm sure of this I've watched in close proximity literally hundreds of times. Usually the girl will tip a few bucks to the stage handler. The money is not taken by security and divided up amongst the staff. The chicas keep 100% of their stage tips and are free to tip as they please.This is what I have seen too, every single time at HK.
MexiMonger
07-30-18, 06:04
I stayed in a single room at the seventh floor which is clearly under construction / renovation.
The lift went till floor 6 and I had to take the stairs to 7th floor.
I liked the lighting in what I assume are new rooms, there is recessed blue lights behind and under the bed and on the ceiling, looks nice and sexy.
I had to crop the photos to upload them, the cropped photos are not as clear as I would have wanted them, but still gives a sense of what the room looks like with the new lighting.Thank you for the pics, did you ask for this type of new room or was I t assigned to you? How many nights? Does it have A / see?
ClamSlammer
07-30-18, 07:08
I don't believe HK survives on alcohol sales alone.I think Hong Kong more than survives on alcohol sales alone. Think about it, they sell a $. 40 bottle of beer for $4. They sell a $. 30 ficha beer for $7 after they pay the chica commission. One weekends they sell buckets of fichas like Cinepolis sells buckets of popcorn. $70 for a bucket they paid $3 for. $27 for a bottle of Kirkland water they paid $. 15 for. Those profit margins are just astonishing. All they have to do is pay for their liquor / business license, utilities bills, grease a few palms at City Hall and they're home free. They pay next to nothing for labor. The security / cleaning guys probably make no more than $15-$20/ day. And guess what, meseros and the robe guy pay HK for the right to work there. It wouldn't surprise me if the customer service counter guys along with the valets don't get paid a wage either.
Basketball101
07-30-18, 13:44
The girls sell sex, not the bars. Thats why you go to the hotel for sex, not stay in the bar.
They check the girls in and out, to keep track of how long their gone. If their not in the bar, their not selling fichas. Also, to protect the girls from danger.
The bar is doing fine.
Captain Solo
07-30-18, 15:38
To JabberWok.
I am amazed that the guys here claim to sit at Kowloon bar's corner, but never really saw what goes on with the strippers' tips. The tip money is most time very little, sometimes nothing. It makes me feel sorry for the girls. Solely in the interest of learning about the very lucrative business of putas bars and poor lives of these girls, it takes the keen observation and analysis skills of a good investigative reporters to dig into the true sad truths:
The stage butch would sweep the dollar tips together off the stage with her feet. She then counts and records them in the note book and give all the bills to the strippers, who would always take out roughly 25% and hand them back to the butch. So she was tipping the butch.
The butch would just stick that money straight into her pocket. Since she never counts or records that money, it makes me think that money would go to just the butch alone, not the rest of the overhead people like floor managers, security, bar tenders or DJ's, who are on salaries. Otherwise she would definitely have to count and record them so she would know how much to divide out among those people.
Again the tip money is most times very little. One of the bros pointed out HK / Cascada also makes money off the girls by making them stay in Cacasda for $50 a night. A lot of those poor girls could not make enough money to pay living expenses. They just quit and went home after a few weeks.
Stage tips.
When I was at the HK recently I saw that security "sweeps" the bar / stage after a girl is finished dancing. I was sitting with a dancer at the time and asked why. She said security takes the money and divides it up among several people, like the DJ, the bartenders, etc. I don't know specifically if management gets a cut but it wouldn't surprise me.
Dcrist0527
07-30-18, 17:20
Oh, don't get me wrong. I think you are right. They make a ton of money on alcohol sales. I'm just not convinced that's where it ends. I could be dead wrong. I have absolutely no insider info. But like I said, I believe they track the ins and outs of a girl for some reason and I don't think it's simply for fichas.
I think Hong Kong more than survives on alcohol sales alone. Think about it, they sell a $. 40 bottle of beer for $4. They sell a $. 30 ficha beer for $7 after they pay the chica commission. One weekends they sell buckets of fichas like Cinepolis sells buckets of popcorn. $70 for a bucket they paid $3 for. $27 for a bottle of Kirkland water they paid $. 15 for. Those profit margins are just astonishing. All they have to do is pay for their liquor / business license, utilities bills, grease a few palms at City Hall and they're home free. They pay next to nothing for labor. The security / cleaning guys probably make no more than $15-$20/ day. And guess what, meseros and the robe guy pay HK for the right to work there. It wouldn't surprise me if the customer service counter guys along with the valets don't get paid a wage either.
Dickus Maximus
07-30-18, 17:24
I've asked some of the girls about the arriba money before, and They all said its all theirs. None for HK- BUT, it was almost two years ago, and I never ask again because I already knew.
Hmmm, interesting. Maybe I'll start asking again and see what they say. I will report back!The ones that I've asked have all told me that the bar takes about half. Based on other negotiations I've had with them, I believe this to be true, even though it seems it would cause the bar to run afoul of certain laws.
ClamSlammer
07-30-18, 22:49
The ones that I've asked have all told me that the bar takes about half. Based on other negotiations I've had with them, I believe this to be true, even though it seems it would cause the bar to run afoul of certain laws.The bar takes zero. That's a fact. I can't believe some mongers believe everything that comes out of a puta's mouth, especially when lying could have a positive financial impact. HK is the strictest law-abiding bar in the Zona. They always make sure a chica's papers are 100% in order for her to work. I know of a case where a new, just turned 18 chica, who was young-looking had all her papers in 100% proper order and they still didn't allow here to work since they weren't fully convinced she was 18. She was required to submit additional paperwork from her former school in order to convince management she was 18. In the meantime she worked at Chavelas which is less strict. And yeah I know HK and LC have the same owner. And HK strictly adheres to the ID rule-chicas must present an ID in order to work everyday. It doesn't matter how long you've worked there, or how when they know you. No ID=no work. Also HK is very strict with health card renewals. No current health card means you're working at Adelita or Deja Vu for the weekend. HK chicas that are turned away for work routinely end up at other, less strict bars until they resolve their situation at HK. You think a bar this strict would openly commit major violations of pimping laws that could get them shut down, seized, prosecuted and jailed like what happened at Nicky's and Madonna?
And the reason for keeping tracking of chicas leaving for arriba is simple. It is just basic business practice of keeping tracking of your employees. You own a business, you should know where your employees are. If you own a small business with only a handful of employees, you just keep track of them in your head. But let's say you run a large business, like a UPS delivery hub. You make the drivers sign in / out every time they leave the premises. No different than at HK. It's just keeping track of your employees. Also, it provides a little bit of security as when a chica is gone too long they can go check on her upstairs or try to force the monger to buy a bucket. And it is also a way of preventing chicas from leaving work early. They had a crack down in 2014 but before then chicas on slow weeknights when they didn't feel like working, would call in a guy friend and pretend like she was going upstairs with him. Instead they left and go did whatever.
The ones that I've asked have all told me that the bar takes about half. Based on other negotiations I've had with them, I believe this to be true, even though it seems it would cause the bar to run afoul of certain laws.Just curious if you remember the names of the chicas that told you that?
MongerHunger
07-31-18, 01:39
Went to HK Friday evening to have some fun. It was lively and some chicas were aggressive. They had a shaving cream show upstairs so I settled in front. 2 chicas flacas were sliding around the stage acting frisky. I played with their hot holes and gave propina. Another chica dressed in black lingerie licked on one girl while the other worked her with a dildo. I seen one dildo there that was a pepino. After awhile I go downstairs by the Kowloon bar and there is another shaving cream show going on. I like this double header. I noticed a girl on stage had a tattoo with the name "Gustavo" on her arm with small breast. They were average looking chicas and let you play with them but were kind of mechanical with not that many smiles. All panochas felt good and silky though. Next I hit the hoe row in the section between Kowloon and the Coahuila side. About 10 chicas standing on the ramp. I played with some, rubbed some clits and did some breast exams for propina. I tried the 1000 peso offer for arriba and all I got was funny looks, no bites. Walked around the club some more dodging meseros. Quite a few 8's and some 9's looking really good. Most of them wanted $80 USD for arriba and some needed talking down from an initial $100 quote to $80 USD. Two chicas would not budge off of $100 but the were 9's and very hot.
The ones that I've asked have all told me that the bar takes about half. Based on other negotiations I've had with them, I believe this to be true, even though it seems it would cause the bar to run afoul of certain laws.They told you that so you would pay them more.
The girls keep all the money they earned in the room.
The other way to look at this is women in the USA pay monthly fees to gyms to do aerobic dance classes for no money earned whatever. You should feel sorry for them instead. Hong Kong Club provides free aerobic dancing and gymnastic fitness training on the pole at no cost to local chicas, who then can get paid something whenever they feel like working out and getting in shape. The Hong Kong "gym" is usually open 7 days a week and guys tip the chicas for the most entertaining aerobic workouts with free drinks for the chicas afterwards. Win-win!
To JabberWok.
I am amazed that the guys here claim to sit at Kowloon bar's corner, but never really saw what goes on with the strippers' tips. The tip money is most time very little, sometimes nothing. It makes me feel sorry for the girls. Solely in the interest of learning about the very lucrative business of putas bars and poor lives of these girls, it takes the keen observation and analysis skills of a good investigative reporters to dig into the true sad truths:
The stage butch would sweep the dollar tips together off the stage with her feet. She then counts and records them in the note book and give all the bills to the strippers, who would always take out roughly 25% and hand them back to the butch. So she was tipping the butch.
The butch would just stick that money straight into her pocket. Since she never counts or records that money, it makes me think that money would go to just the butch alone, not the rest of the overhead people like floor managers, security, bar tenders or DJ's, who are on salaries. Otherwise she would definitely have to count and record them so she would know how much to divide out among those people..
Long Don Silva
07-31-18, 15:10
In February 2016, I was trying to talk a girl down from $80 to $60. She stayed firm on $80, mentioning the $20 cut she gives to her "manager". She could have been lying. My guess was, since she had a synthetic butt and breasts, that she had a benefactor who paid for her surgeries and is now getting his ROI from her in the form of a $20 cut from each session. I'm guessing this might be a fairly common arrangement. I wonder what is the proportion of girls that are enhanced that claim they have to give out a cut of their arriba earnings.
Dumb question, but where is "customer service" in order to get the VIP card? Just inside HK's north entrance, to the left, the baggage / cloakroom?
And since Cascadas didn't answer my question, that gets 80% off *all* rooms Monday and Tuesday? I don't want to turn up and them demand $100 when I expected to pay $20. (plus $50 VIP).
Dumb question, but where is "customer service" in order to get the VIP card? Just inside HK's north entrance, to the left, the baggage / cloakroom?
Yes, it is the baggage / cloakroom.
ScatManDoo
07-31-18, 20:15
Dumb question, but where is "customer service" in order to get the VIP card? Just inside HK's north entrance, to the left, the baggage / cloakroom?Yes.
And since Cascadas didn't answer my question, that gets 80% off *all* rooms Monday and Tuesday?Yes.
My advice to you is to reserve the specific Master Suite you want online without mentioning the HK VIP card, or any other discount.
Then when you arrive in Tijuana, go to HK's customer service area and purchase your VIP card.
Then go up to HK and ask to check in with your reservation (you might already have a confirmation # from the online reservation) still without a mention of the VIP card.
After the desk clerk acknowledges your reservation, and asks for a large payment for the room. ,. Then pull out your new HK VIP card to get the discount.
HK is notorious for losing monger reservations when it is time to check in.
ScatManDoo
08-01-18, 03:18
Yes.
Yes.
My advice to you is to reserve the specific Master Suite you want online without mentioning the HK VIP card, or any other discount.
Then when you arrive in Tijuana, go to HK's customer service area and purchase your VIP card.
Then go up to HK and ask to check in with your reservation (you might already have a confirmation # from the online reservation) still without a mention of the VIP card.
After the desk clerk acknowledges your reservation, and asks for a large payment for the room. ,. Then pull out your new HK VIP card to get the discount.
HK is notorious for losing monger reservations when it is time to check in.Two lines up from the bottom of my post, I meant to say "Then go up to Cascades and ask to check in with your reservation".
Captain Solo
08-01-18, 18:35
HK probably charges the girls for the privilege of working out and showing off their hot bodies on stage hehe.
After the 3-song dance routine, most chicas get really hot and some very sweaty. If you don't think it's work, get your big butt on that stage and try to strip and dance for 10 minutes. You would be sweating and panting like a dog in heat hehe. HK had to put a small blower on stage so chicas can cool off. Never get excited by strippers' hot bodies and sexiness and take them to bed right after they strip, because they would be very hot and tired, no energy or fun left for sex. Let the literally hot strippers cool down for at least 1 hour, before contemplating pulling them for a fuck hehe.
HK added a string of A / C vents over the Kowloon bar blowing cold air all night. It's very nice now to sit at Kowloon bar with all that fresh cold air while ogling and groping hot pussies.
Gym or no gym, ugly US women will all turn into big, fat, flabby Walmart sows with all the food they eat and no work.
Two lines up from the bottom of my post, I meant to say "Then go up to Cascades and ask to check in with your reservation".I knew what you meant! Thanks, but by then I was already en-route. When I checked in he either saw the card or saw the note on my reservation because straight up he said $20 for the booked jacuzzi room. $50 deposit (thought it was supposed to be $30?)
I have to say I was a little disappointed with Cascadas. Seeing as they normally charge Western prices (without the VIP card), even despite being in Mexico, I expected a little more. Dark shower with erratically alternating scalding and freezing water; jacuzzi that took 15 minutes to fill while spraying water all over the floor; remote control for the TV hidden on top of a tall cabinet (only found by accident when I stood on the bed to look for something else), and the noise. My god. Not just the street below (I was on the 3rd floor, towards the alley side) or the discos below booming out til 4 am, not just noise from other rooms, but the worst by far were the room cleaners shouting at each other down the hallway and vacuuming all night long. The street / disco noises were just constant white noise I could live with, but not the sudden shouts from the cleaners.
Still I don't begrudge $20 but I might think of other choices next time.
Anyway, as to HK itself. A little quieter than Saturday on this Tuesday around 7 pm, as can be expected. Top floors not open. Shaving foam show with the same 2 girls I recognised from before, still good fun. Wandered outside and looked into 4-5 other bars which were mostly dead, except Tropical and Adelita's. Watched a girl in Adelita's on stage in bumble bee bikini (yellow and black horizontal stripes) and asked her after for company. $9 IIRC, same as HK. Plenty of mileage under the bikini. Ended when she finished her drink and told me she can't go to Cascadas (but did say, IIRC, it would be $13 for the room and $80 for her).
Went back to HK and got nudged by a girl at the bar by the south entrance. Decided she looked good so went for a drink with her. Name of Kimberley, small girl in height and body size. A spinner I guess. Asked about jacuzzi, photos, DATY, and BBBJ which she agreed to. However, her English wasn't so good so a waiter tried to translate. He wanted me to buy 6-8 drinks for $55 which dropped to 4 drinks for $40. Not quite sure on the maths for that, or even the need for it (he said time), but he shrugged his shoulders, told me to negotiate, and wandered off. She wanted $100, countered with $80, but she refused to budge and was about to walk off. Sod it, she is pretty and had a nice pussy and breasts from what I could tell. So, up to the room, she was quite happy to go in the jacuzzi but worried about the hair. Luckily (thanks to people here) I'd already checked there was a hair net. Problem sorted. Wary of time we spent about 10 minutes in the jacuzzi (which I'd filled up earlier) where she washed her bits, then moved to the bed. Asked for 69, again lost in translation but got to "six nine?" and away we went. Lovely pussy, long clit hood, very tight. "Grande" she said of me, which I've always assumed was just the usual feelgood compliment whether they mean it or not. She was tight and a few positions later I emptied inside her (in the condom anyway). Asked her to cuddle which she did for all of 30 seconds before declaring that she needs to go back! So a bit of a rush to get dressed and return to HK.
Had a few more beers, watched another shaving foam show which annoyed me at first because there was one punter throwing money, while all the other punters either watched without tipping, or were even on their phones. Both girls were clearly pissed off at the phone antics too, as they both separately poked their shaving-foam-covered legs into the men's faces which was amusing for the rest of us. They got the hint and moved away, as did some of the non-participants. There were a couple of lesbians watching too, one obviously shy but clearly enjoying it. Always nice to see people enjoying it, especially women.
Went back to Cascadas where I checked the condom. Blood outside. Either start / end of menstrual cycle or maybe I was a little big for her! Don't think it was a period though as there was nothing obvious wile DATY (well, wife certainly tastes different at different times of the month).
This time I walked to and from PedWest, parking near the other pedestrian crossing because I couldn't find anywhere closer. $8 per 8 hours or part thereof. I speed walked back to the car to exit 3 minutes before the next 8 hours started!
Also bought 10 x 100 MG Viagra for $20 at a pharmacy next to the first bridge from Coahuila / Miguel Negrete. Maxifort was $3 per pill. Labelled Ultra Labs. I hope it's decent stuff and not floor sweepings and printer ink!
Captain Solo
08-02-18, 03:47
Was in HK with a new bro Tuesday night. There were a lot of hot girls.
Most girls now quote standard rate of $80 and would not budge. A spinner near the bar told me $100. When I told her it was too much money, she coldly said "that my price. " Her attitude was take it or leave it. I just walked off. She was standing next to the bar all night, not doing any business.
Ran into Krystal near the stairs. Have not seen her a while. She's always smiling sweetly with her pretty Spanish face and full lips. Gave her a propina and groped her hot crotch. Asked her how much for arriba. She also said the standard $80. When I objected, she asked how much. I gave her my standard offer and she quickly said let's go. She speaks adequate English and always smiles shyly. Her light skin is smooth and creamily soft, feeling good, smelling good. Her natural boobs are small and conical, but she would not allow tit sucking. She gave an OK CBJ and opened up her crotch for DATY and clit sucking, giggling that it tickled her. Krystal is a reliable, sexy lay. She was groaning, sucking on my nipples, caressing my body, at the end breathing and gasping heavily.
Krystal looks pretty and feels sexy, very popular in HK with regular clients. She went up with guys 4 times back to back while I was there, while most other girls were just hanging around not snagging any guys.
Took a tall blonde for a free lap dance. Her skin was smooth and dry but her body was firm and boobs big, rock hard. Cascada just raised the room rates again. Had a good sexy vacation for midweek hehe.
I heard that guys will pay the girl 80 or 100 and request for and get 1 hour instead of 30 minutes. It sounds like this requires an overnight room. I think the short time rooms are booked for only 30 minutes, right?
Any guys here do this?
Long Don Silva
08-02-18, 16:49
I heard that guys will pay the girl 80 or 100 and request for and get 1 hour instead of 30 minutes. It sounds like this requires an overnight room. I think the short time rooms are booked for only 30 minutes, right?
Any guys here do this?Yes. They charge double the half-hour rate for a full hour.
Member #4722
08-02-18, 17:34
I heard that guys will pay the girl 80 or 100 and request for and get 1 hour instead of 30 minutes. It sounds like this requires an overnight room. I think the short time rooms are booked for only 30 minutes, right?
Any guys here do this?I am no expert on Hong Kong and normally try to get a better deal at other clubs but I have negotiated 100/1 HR there in the club before.
DramaFree11
08-02-18, 18:00
I am no expert on Hong Kong and normally try to get a better deal at other clubs but I have negotiated 100/1 HR there in the club before.
I have as well. This is were the VIP Card works, they give you extra time, or if you rent the room for the night, nobody knocks on the door. Can not beat this, this is why I always get a room, even If I am staying at another hotel in Tijuana. Since Adelitas is just not that good anymore, I spend most of my time at H. K.
Unfortunately a lot of us take Tijuana for granted. Love the city, food, weather, service, (Except Waiters in H. K, but easily avoidable), girls amazing! Just can not beat the experience, also if you have any game you can develop nice friendship with these girls. You need to go to there local city, to make that happen, but attainable.
I heard that guys will pay the girl 80 or 100 and request for and get 1 hour instead of 30 minutes. It sounds like this requires an overnight room. I think the short time rooms are booked for only 30 minutes, right?
Any guys here do this?The 30 minute rooms are $17. If you want the room for an hour, it will be $27.
And no, the girls don't double the price, but you will pay a bit more.
She gave an OK CBJ and opened up her crotch for DATY and clit sucking ..... She went up with guys 4 times back to back while I was thereBest not to think about the ones before you when you sucked on her clit! Grin. Mine at least washed outside and just inside but. Yeah, don't think about it!
Captain Solo
08-02-18, 22:59
To Simmer,
I hear you. I could not resist giving her the pleasure, only briefly. I don't make a big meal out of it like other guys hehe.
She gave me intense pleasures with lots of loving, caring gestures.
She asked to take a shower after the session. She's a nice, clean girl.
Best not to think about the ones before you when you sucked on her clit! Grin. Mine at least washed outside and just inside but. Yeah, don't think about it!
Dcrist0527
08-03-18, 02:40
LOL I really wish I could not think about that. For that reason, I just can't DATY. I do enjoy that "in real life". But when I'm paying, nah. Been tempted a time or two, but just couldn't get my mind past the last dude. Unfortunately.
Best not to think about the ones before you when you sucked on her clit! Grin. Mine at least washed outside and just inside but. Yeah, don't think about it!
MongerHunger
08-03-18, 06:19
Also bought 10 x 100 MG Viagra for $20 at a pharmacy next to the first bridge from Coahuila / Miguel Negrete. Maxifort was $3 per pill. Labelled Ultra Labs. I hope it's decent stuff and not floor sweepings and printer ink!You could probably get a better deal at Piri Pharmacy across from the wax museum just down from the arch in La Zona Norte. Maybe 30×100 MG for around $20 for Figral Sildenafil.
Captain Solo
08-04-18, 00:01
To Dcrist.
That night Krystal just came out to work; I was her first. I had many sessions with her before. She's always nice, clean, pretty, classy, smelling good, feeling good and very sensuous in bed. She took a long shower after the session, cleaning carefully.
She's probably the most popular chica in HK recently. Guys were steadily buying her fichas and taking her to the hotel all night.
Just checked, my mouth, lips, tongue, eyes are still here hehe.
Dcrist0527
08-04-18, 04:17
Glad the appendages haven't fallen off. LOL.
My last trip, I was very tempted to DATY. I think a few too many tequilas were killing my inhibitions! Dangerous but boy it was fun. I was probably lucky to get out of the zona safely on two nights. Walking from Chicago to HK was a bit of a blur. I just kept quiet in the taxi back to the hotel so the driver didn't know I was so messed up. Not good. But I hung on to enough memories to appreciate a memorable night.
To Dcrist.
That night Krystal just came out to work; I was her first. I had many sessions with her before. She's always nice, clean, pretty, classy, smelling good, feeling good and very sensuous in bed. She took a long shower after the session, cleaning carefully.
She's probably the most popular chica in HK recently. Guys were steadily buying her fichas and taking her to the hotel all night.
Just checked, my mouth, lips, tongue, eyes are still here hehe.
Captain Solo
08-04-18, 06:10
To Dramafree.
Yep. I agree with you 100%. Don't knock HK until you have to move away and can't visit once in a while. There are no other places on earth where you can find so many hot girls to party, flirt with and have sex. My friends are misreable after moving away from SOCAL The sexy funs with chicas in HK and the streets of La Zona are what they miss most. How many percent US guys can have fun, sexy parties with pretty young girls every weekend? It's like having a harem and you can pick out a few hottest girls for sex at your whim hehe.
You should definitely get a room in Cascada. The girls feel more relaxed and sexy not to be spied on and rushed by cleaning crew and you can take more time to enjoy the chicas' companies.
There are lots other good stuffs in Tijuana besides the hot chicas. The bros are urged to take a $2 UBER ride to Mr Pampas Churrascarias' $11 all you can eat dinner with hot grilled meats. Last time I went they also served grilled octopus and shrimp. Hit Titos for seafood tacos, ceviche, coctleles and grilled fish, fresh and cheap.
If you hang out in civies clubs and shopping malls, you may be able to strike up friendships with a few angelic-looking girls. Just pretend you are lost and needed help with directions. The girls would fall over each other to help. Before you know it she's in your hotel room drinking, smoking, partying and having hot sex. Hehe. A few of my wingmen have beautiful, nice, sweet, pretty, agreeable local girlfriends, completely the opposite of greedy, rude, abusive US women hehe.
Tijuana does have the funnest, sexiest, tastiest recreations for guys. Amen!
You could probably get a better deal at Piri Pharmacy across from the wax museum just down from the arch in La Zona Norte. Maybe 30100 MG for around $20 for Figral Sildenafil.Thanks. I was in a rush and it was an opportunistic purchase walking past, and vaguely recalled around $2/ tab was okay-ish.
When I checked in he either saw the card or saw the note on my reservation because straight up he said $20 for the booked jacuzzi room. $50 deposit (thought it was supposed to be $30?)- $50 For master suites and Jacuzzi room.
- $30 for new single room.
- $200 for Penthouse suites.
- $0 for old single room.
Tomjackin got it right!
The 30 minute rooms are $17. If you want the room for an hour, it will be $27.
And for the chica.
Double the time doesn't equal double the price, triple the time doesn't equal triple the price!
It doesn't work that way. Don't be that sucker!
Negotiate. You will pay a bit more though, but not that much!
I am no expert on Hong Kong and normally try to get a better deal at other clubs but I have negotiated 100/1 HR there in the club before.I also have had $100 for an hour, and the hotel does rent by the HR. As well. I like the idea of renting a room there.
*Does anyone know if you can bring a SG into that hotel?
Scudrucker
08-05-18, 15:21
Finally stopped lurking today.
Reside on east coast of Canada so 9 hrs flying to San Diego, 992 to plaza trolley all thanks to reading great info.
Thanks to all I used to stay at tiquan first night but now travel straight yo cascadas.
Have had the usual trouble with safes and tv remotes but mostly good.
Internet is good enough to run Netflix in the downtime.
Always feel comfortable in zona but always aware.
I have mostly been with hk girls but occasionally Adelitas, I hope I can help the discussion.
*Does anyone know if you can bring a SG into that hotel?Yes, you can bring an SG to Hotel Cascadas.
- $50 For master suites and Jacuzzi room.
- $30 for new single room.
- $200 for Penthouse suites.
- $0 for old single room.Aha, thanks for that. I got it returned within minutes of checking out, even though the receptionist didn't seem to have received a reply from anybody to check the room. Might have had an earpiece I guess.
Captain Solo
08-05-18, 22:04
To Scud,
Welcome to the hot and sexy Tijuana. I lived for 6 years on the East Coast next to Canada's border. I found the girls in Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver mostly nice, clean, polite and extremely attractive hehe.
Just to understand your relative comparison, where in Canada are you from?
Would be very interesting to know your assessments of Tijuana, pros and cons, relative to Canada and the rest of the world.
Re. Finally stopped lurking today.
Reside on east coast of Canada so 9 hrs flying to San Diego, 992 to plaza trolley all thanks to reading great info.
Thanks to all I used to stay at Tiquan first night but now travel straight yo cascadas.
Have had the usual trouble with safes and TV remotes but mostly good.
Internet is good enough to run Netflix in the downtime.
Always feel comfortable in zona but always aware.
I have mostly been with hk girls but occasionally Adelitas, I hope I can help the discussion.
Scudrucker
08-05-18, 23:33
I introduced myself earlier today and thought I would share a report from my last trip in June 18.
Walking around as usual and admiring the large breasts and had a half price private dance voucher to use.
A blonde with huge ones smiled at the ramp to the back and thought sure. Took her to Miami and joel checked us in.
Immediately started selling arriba and I said lets relax and enjoy the dance.
She just grabbed her purse and left leaving me in the booth whistling to myself.
I walk out and look at joel and state wtf. She did everything to entice me and walked when told to first enjoy.
Joel stated some of thes girls are not what they seem. Trust me as I followed him to the back. He introduced me to a very pretty girl with a bland name. I asked if she would like a drink and she thought for a sec and said ok. I thought this was another dead end but sat down and the drink arrived.
She started warming up and I got a good feeling so pulled the pin.
And up we went. Things went great. She kissed sensually and her oral skils were very good. The clincher was during mish when I got close she locked her legs behind me and kissed.
Boom an excellent time and I thanked Joell when I got downstairs.
Other meseros have been good like Eduardo but Joel can be a storehouse of knowledge.
Well that's my firs report. Hope its not tmi.
Have been nice like Eduardo but Joel knows his stuff.
Once Sailor
08-06-18, 03:39
To Dramafree.
Yep. I agree with you 100%. Don't knock HK until you have to move away and can't visit once in a while. There are no other places on earth where you can find so many hot girls to party, flirt with and have sex. My friends are misreable after moving away from SOCAL The sexy funs with chicas in HK and the streets of La Zona are what they miss most. How many percent US guys can have fun, sexy parties with pretty young girls every weekend? It's like having a harem and you can pick out a few hottest girls for sex at your whim hehe.
First Tijuana is absolutely great for those in SOCAL, BUT. I have had much more fun in Thailand and the Philippines. Of course getting there from 'Merica is a pain. Also cost is less or equal for services (services are usually the full menu) and same for the great food. And getting a girl to go to your hotel is so much easier.
DramaFree11
08-06-18, 03:48
First Tijuana is absolutely great for those in SOCAL, but. I have had much more fun in Thailand and the Philippines. Of course getting there from 'Merica is a pain. Also cost is less or equal for services (services are usually the full menu) and same for the great food. And getting a girl to go to your hotel is so much easier.
Understand, not a big fan of those places and the culture, but love Moscow.
To Dramafree.
Yep. I agree with you 100%. Don't knock HK until you have to move away and can't visit once in a while. There are no other places on earth where you can find so many hot girls to party, flirt with and have sex. My friends are misreable after moving away from SOCAL The sexy funs with chicas in HK and the streets of La Zona are what they miss most. How many percent US guys can have fun, sexy parties with pretty young girls every weekend? It's like having a harem and you can pick out a few hottest girls for sex at your whim hehe.
You should definitely get a room in Cascada. The girls feel more relaxed and sexy not to be spied on and rushed by cleaning crew and you can take more time to enjoy the chicas' companies.
There are lots other good stuffs in Tijuana besides the hot chicas. The bros are urged to take a $2 UBER ride to Mr Pampas Churrascarias' $11 all you can eat dinner with hot grilled meats. Last time I went they also served grilled octopus and shrimp. Hit Titos for seafood tacos, ceviche, coctleles and grilled fish, fresh and cheap.
If you hang out in civies clubs and shopping malls, you may be able to strike up friendships with a few angelic-looking girls. Just pretend you are lost and needed help with directions. The girls would fall over each other to help. Before you know it she's in your hotel room drinking, smoking, partying and having hot sex. Hehe. A few of my wingmen have beautiful, nice, sweet, pretty, agreeable local girlfriends, completely the opposite of greedy, rude, abusive US women hehe.
Tijuana does have the funnest, sexiest, tastiest recreations for guys. Amen!I agree with Captain Solo! Tijuana is great (discreet charm of legal prostitution) You can have sex every weekend with a beautiful girl, no dating drama, you do not have to meet a girl's parents, you can cheat your Adelita girl and Hong Kong girl with another Adelita or Hong Kong girl, you do not have to buy a engagement ring, no divorce drama. Too good to be true! It should be illegal! (and it is illegal in many countries).
I've had adult fun in Toronto, Montreal, and Tijuana. As far as quality and looks goes, I would take Canada anyday. Less pricey in Tijuana and stll legal, though, unlike in Canada where the law technically makes it illegal.
To Scud,
Welcome to the hot and sexy Tijuana. I lived for 6 years on the East Coast next to Canada's border. I found the girls in Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver mostly nice, clean, polite and extremely attractive hehe.
Just to understand your relative comparison, where in Canada are you from?
Would be very interesting to know your assessments of Tijuana, pros and cons, relative to Canada and the rest of the world.
Re. Finally stopped lurking today..
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