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Don't go with CITLALY (Sophia).
I tried HK in past, usually it was the most easy and safe bar in zona. They used to have the best of the best and charge the highest price for it from beer, sex, room compare to other neighbor bars. You could have fun in the bar and pick any girl just agree about the price and go to room. You could expect to have average services (including covered BJ and sex with no bra for about 20 minutes). BUT not any more.
The last time I was there. I seen a girl, her name was CITLALY. We had some chitchat and I ask for going to room. She told 1600 peso and I counter with 1400 and she agreed. In the room she ask for the money upfront and after she get paid. She just put the condom and start with her mouth, she refused to remove her bra, she turned mad when I asked her to remove it and just pull the bra down and start miss sex with closed leg to don't let me actually penetrate her. And keep telling me to finish finish finish. She did not even finish it and left. ! She been in my room for 5 minutes (including changing time! When I asked her name again before she leave, she told me Sophia, but they know them in bar by name of CITLALY. I find the girl and the manager but no solution the money is gone. The manager just offer me free drink and a free room. The HK bar is big and cool but they have many new scammer girl and they are not doing anything about it.
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Basketball101
11-08-18, 17:42
Don't go with CITLALY (Sophia).
I tried HK in past, usually it was the most easy and safe bar in zona. They used to have the best of the best and charge the highest price for it from beer, sex, room compare to other neighbor bars. You could have fun in the bar and pick any girl just agree about the price and go to room. You could expect to have average services (including covered BJ and sex with no bra for about 20 minutes). BUT not any more.
The last time I was there. I seen a girl, her name was CITLALY. We had some chitchat and I ask for going to room. She told 1600 peso and I counter with 1400 and she agreed. In the room she ask for the money upfront and after she get paid. She just put the condom and start with her mouth, she refused to remove her bra, she turned mad when I asked her to remove it and just pull the bra down and start miss sex with closed leg to don't let me actually penetrate her. And keep telling me to finish finish finish. She did not even finish it and left. ! She been in my room for 5 minutes (including changing time! When I asked her name again before she leave, she told me Sophia, but they know them in bar by name of CITLALY. I find the girl and the manager but no solution the money is gone. The manager just offer me free drink and a free room. The HK bar is big and cool but they have many new scammer girl and they are not doing anything about it.Don't blame the club. You paid her up front, and didn't like the service. Always pay after. If she says no, there's a reason.
CaptJackSparro
11-09-18, 00:13
Very true. Girls hardly ask me for upfront payment anymore. Not sure why, but maybe I come across as more experienced now.
Girls who insist on upfront payment aren't totally confident in their service, have had guys not cum and get pissed at them, and basically have had issues with payment after in the past.
Insisting on upfront payment is basically hooker 101. But Girls who demand it and won't budge are typically the hardened hustler type who don't care about your satisfaction anyway.
The best way to avoid this is by paying for a room before bringing girls to it (perfect for Monday and Tuesday for VIP members) or to agree to pay after downstairs.
The times I've paid up front were when I felt committed to the transaction because I had just paid for the short time room. Not wanting to lose the money you just paid for the room is a big reason guys will comply with the girls terms.
Most girls know they will only ever see you 1 time so all incentive to ensure you are satisfied goes out the window once she has your money.
Get room a room for the night before entering the club or agree to pay after before taking girls upstairs. Otherwise, send a girl packing if she insists on upfront payment.
Don't blame the club. You paid her up front, and didn't like the service. Always pay after. If she says no, there's a reason.
Captain Solo
11-09-18, 06:39
To CaptSparrow,
A few bros were pissed off in the room, refusing to pay first to the putas, they in turn call in HK's security guards and floor managers, made a big scene and threaten to engage police. The bros should remember names report putas who fucked them up the ass in the room. For a few names to avoid, PM me. A bro with call sign Mexico Monger knows how to deal with this situation. I hope he gives us advice.
HK chicas are always nice, fun and sweet in the bar to hook guys, but would play very nasty games in the room to gain their advantages. It is normal for guys to sleep out the detailed requirements with the chicas in the bar, including "pagar despues," before going to the hotel. If the girls refuse to get pay after, chances are they have nasty surprises in their plan, and it's best to skip them and makes deals with other girls. There are close 100 girls in HK very night, plenty are hot, nice, reasonable. Make sure you let the nasty putas do no business and move some where else with their nasty games.
BTW, even after you paid for the ST room, if the deals go sour and you have not fucked the girls, leaving big wet spots on the sheet, Cascada and almost all others will grant you credit for the use of the room the next time. Cascada would just give the money back. Just walk to the reception, shake your head and say "No Bueno. " They will get the picture and credit you. This mongers' right to room credits in puta hotel is mandated in Mexico's federal laws. Look it up.
Don't let the room charges tie you down with ugly, greedy, nasty.
The times I've paid up front were when I felt committed to the transaction because I had just paid for the short time room. Not wanting to lose the money you just paid for the room is a big reason guys will comply with the girls terms.
Most girls know they will only ever see you 1 time so all incentive to ensure you are satisfied goes out the window once she has your money.
HorseTrader
11-09-18, 09:38
Don't blame the club. You paid her up front, and didn't like the service. Always pay after. If she says no, there's a reason.Sometimes I forget to have the "pay after" conversation while still in the bar. In fact, I made that mistake on both Tuesday and Wednesday. On Tuesday my HK girl walked out of my cascadas room because I wouldn't pay first. No problem, I had the room for the night and I just picked a different girl.
On Wednesday I took an AB girl upstairs and she insisted I pay first. She flat out said that if the sex wasn't good she wouldn't get paid. I didn't argue, I simply walked out. Lost my room fee of about $14, but I really don't care about that.
Sometimes I forget to have the "pay after" conversation while still in the bar. In fact, I made that mistake on both Tuesday and Wednesday. On Tuesday my HK girl walked out of my cascadas room because I wouldn't pay first. No problem, I had the room for the night and I just picked a different girl.
On Wednesday I took an AB girl upstairs and she insisted I pay first. She flat out said that if the sex wasn't good she wouldn't get paid. I didn't argue, I simply walked out. Lost my room fee of about $14, but I really don't care about that.Good on you! These girls are putas and we should call the shots! When they think their panocha is made of gold; fuck them! I've never paid upfront and never will.
HorseTrader
11-09-18, 19:09
.... I've never paid upfront and never will.Sometimes if you want a particular girl, you need to pay first or you can't screw her. I understand why somebody would do that. But in my two recent instances, the girl looked great in the bar but not so great in the hotel. I didn't feel bad about missing either of them.
My recent experiences are more in Thailand than in Tijuana. In Thailand very few ask for pre payment and I've had nobody insist on it.
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11-10-18, 01:33
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From my experience and others I know that pay up front, almost all of them gave shitty service.
Nowadays if the girls want money upfront I just showed her the money and put it back in my pocket.
SpikeBites1
11-11-18, 00:50
A few Thursdays ago, and just let me say that of the 4-5 times I've been to HK, this was the absolute worst.
I've never gone on a Thursday so I was surprised by the $7 cover charge. Such bullshit really. I can understand cover charge on the weekends but on a Thursday, it wasn't even that crowded or great. All levels were opened even when it wasn't packed. Anyways after arguing with the guy about the cover charge, I caved in. I was worried about having to pay it again if I decided to walk out and check out the SW or to get some Tacos so I was hesitant to leave again.
When we walked in, we saw this amazing girl dancing on stage. She had such a tiny spinner little body with natural be cups. Tiny but substantial enough to grab a hold of. Plus she was at least 5'8 without heels. She also wore hipster glasses that most young people of this generation wear. I was infatuated with her to say the least. The way she worked that pole on stage only made her even sexier to me. She was doing tricks, sliding up the pole upside down, even using the ring and moving back and forth. It was amazing. I couldn't stop staring at her. That was the dangerous part. Once you get so focused on one girl you kind of tune everything and everyone out.
Well we decided to get some food so me and Solo went out, but only if the door guy agreed I wouldn't have to pay the $7 cover again. If I had to pay $7 for each time I went out I'd be pissed. Such a waste of $$ but I can see people falling of this and paying it. Luckily I had a seasoned veteran like Solo help and tell the door man to go fuck himself and his $7.
When we came back in, the girl I was infatuated with was back on the stage, and wow. I couldn't get enough of her. I decided to wait around to see if anyone else was worth it, so I took my time and just walked around looking for any other potential girls. Nothing. There was this one girl who wore cat ears that I saw a month ago that I thought was amazing. Then I remembered that last time she charged $120 to me and stupidly I paid it back then. But she was pretty hot with boltons and spoke very good English. By the time I returned from making a round around the bar, I saw that my girl was asked to sit down with a group of dudes. I still kept my eye on her walking past her to see if she was done with them.
The first thing I noticed with her was that while she was sitting with the guys, she was very cold and distant. Not very engaging to him, no lap dances, no touching, barely anything. She just drank her drink and just sat unenthusiastically with them. That should've been a huge red flag to me but I was so smitten with her you know, nothing was going to change my mind. After about 30-45 minutes she finally went upstairs with the guy. By now it was 10 pm and we had to leave at 11 pm, so I started panicking. There was no one else I was remotely interested in throughout the whole bar. So I waited for her to finish upstairs. When she came back down, I quickly grabbed her and asked her how much to go upstairs. She said $100. I said fuck it, didn't even bother to negotiate.
Took her upstairs. Second red flag, she asked for the money as soon as we entered the room. Okay, fine, no biggie. We got undressed and she started stroking me while I sucked on her tits. When I went down to finger her or rub her clit, she closed her fucking legs. She said "I don't like that. " I'm like, what? I said how about I just rub the outside and I won't stick my fingers in. "No". WTF. I'm like okay shit this sucks. So I took out the condom, and put it on my limp dick and told her to suck it. She said. "No, I don't like that". What the fuck. At this point I knew this was a bust. How the fuck am I supposed to get hard if she's not going to let me finger her, or if she wasn't going to suck my dick. At this point my mood was all fucked and I knew it would take an act of god to even get my dick up. So I started stroking, hoping and praying I was still in the right mindset to fuck her. I was so pissed, I was like fuck it, I'm going to try and rub her clit even though she has her legs closed. She then said "$20 to rub the outside", I'm like thinking fuck you. At this point, I would've given her $20 to suck my dick because I know there was little chance I could get hard without some type of stimulation. She wouldn't even moan for me. I'm a very audio oriented person, more visual. Moaning can get me hard but she wouldn't do that. Then I put her missionary and tried to stick my half hard dick into her. A mild success, she started moaning a bit and then I eventually got hard. Had her ride me cowgirl to completion.
At the end, she said "tip? Seriously? You fucking * I was so pissed and annoyed, so I gave her $4. Which is what was left of my $1 dollar bills.
A lot of lessons to be learned about this experience. Never go for the hottest * who knows she's hot as fuck. She thinks she's too good to have to do anything to please a man. Next time I'll find a mediocre girl who will offer a better experience.
Lesson fucking learned
But don't let this bad experience sway anyone, HK is still a great place for a lot of fun. Out of the 5 trips, this was the worst but I've had plenty of fun the other times.
From my experience and others I know that pay up front, almost all of them gave shitty service.
Nowadays if the girls want money upfront I just showed her the money and put it back in my pocket.I agree and have had similar experiences as Asting. If they still insist on money upfront most reasonable chicas will compromise with money being visible in a neutral location such as the corner of the stand. I've had walkouts who insisted they be handed cash. Honestly felt like I dodged a bullet on those occasions.
ScatManDoo
11-11-18, 23:54
When we came back in, the girl I was infatuated with was back on the stage, and wow. I couldn't get enough of her. I decided to wait around to see if anyone else was worth it, so I took my time and just walked around looking for any other potential girls. Nothing. There was this one girl who wore cat ears that I saw a month ago that I thought was amazing. Then I remembered that last time she charged $120 to me and stupidly I paid it back then. But she was pretty hot with boltons and spoke very good English. By the time I returned from making a round around the bar, I saw that my girl was asked to sit down with a group of dudes. I still kept my eye on her walking past her to see if she was done with them.
The first thing I noticed with her was that while she was sitting with the guys, she was very cold and distant. Not very engaging to him, no lap dances, no touching, barely anything. She just drank her drink and just sat unenthusiastically with them. That should've been a huge red flag to me but I was so smitten with her you know, nothing was going to change my mind. After about 30-45 minutes she finally went upstairs with the guy. By now it was 10 pm and we had to leave at 11 pm, so I started panicking. There was no one else I was remotely interested in throughout the whole bar. So I waited for her to finish upstairs. When she came back down, I quickly grabbed her and asked her how much to go upstairs. She said $100. I said fuck it, didn't even bother to negotiate.Let me help you in your learning, because I don't think you learned nearly enough.
Tips to chicas are optional, especially after completion.
You said you were pissed and annoyed, but didn't act like it by tipping her anything. You just encouraged her to pull her shit on us other mongers.
Member #4722
11-12-18, 01:06
A few Thursdays ago, and just let me say that of the 4-5 times I've been to HK, this was the absolute worst.
I've never gone on a Thursday so I was surprised by the $7 cover charge. Such bullshit really. I can understand cover charge on the weekends but on a Thursday, it wasn't even that crowded or great. All levels were opened even when it wasn't packed. Anyways after arguing with the guy about the cover charge, I caved in. I was worried about having to pay it again if I decided to walk out and check out the SW or to get some Tacos so I was hesitant to leave again.
When we walked in, we saw this amazing girl dancing on stage. She had such a tiny spinner little body with natural be cups. Tiny but substantial enough to grab a hold of. Plus she was at least 5'8 without heels. She also wore hipster glasses that most young people of this generation wear. I was infatuated with her to say the least. The way she worked that pole on stage only made her even sexier to me. She was doing tricks, sliding up the pole upside down, even using the ring and moving back and forth. It was amazing. I couldn't stop staring at her. That was the dangerous part. Once you get so focused on one girl you kind of tune everything and everyone out..Thanks for the detailed report. Sounds like you are learning a lot on the fly. Personally I have been hobbying so long I rarely ever go for the hottest girls, especially in Tijuana. Almost 100% bad experience. Plenty of very attractive women in all Zona bars. If you have a bad experience for $60 you feel a lot less regret than spending $120-150. Lately my strategy is to get an escort before I go out. Have a great GFE session then head to Zona with one lighter in the chamber. Gives me more confidence to deal with Chicas in the clubs. Or even better yet just head out to some civvie bars. I'm normally still horny after my escort to I usually pick a couple hot street girls just to get my dirty paws on some hot flesh even though I am already satisfied. Hong Kong has the hottest women by far but total rip off IMO.
HorseTrader
11-12-18, 01:42
I agree and have had similar experiences as Asting. If they still insist on money upfront most reasonable chicas will compromise with money being visible in a neutral location such as the corner of the stand. I've had walkouts who insisted they be handed cash. Honestly felt like I dodged a bullet on those occasions.There's a phrase for being obsessed with one girl, paying first, overpaying, getting shitty service, and tipping. It's thinking with the little head. A problem that many men have.
Sorry to hear the bad experience, but appreciate the report.
Member #4722
11-12-18, 01:57
I love how some mongers have been to HK tons of times but ask about other bars. It's free to go in and take a look anywhere. I normally visit at least five bars on average in La Zona.
Luckily I had a seasoned veteran like Solo help and tell the door man to go fuck himself and his $7.Seriously, you listened to solo? Damn, you are an idiot! It's no wonder you had a shitty time!
HorseTrader
11-12-18, 08:36
Sunday evening did not present many of the kind of girls that I like. I was just about to give up when I spotted Valentina.
Try Valentina if you like girls that are tall (maybe 5'5") slender, pretty, natural, personable, functional English, fairly priced, accept pay after, and under 25 years old. I had a very nice experience with her in Cascadas and I will repeat. Her hair is medium brown, long, straight, and parted in the middle.
You won't like Valentina if you prefer big assess, fake tits, caked on makeup, or brassy personality.
Captain Solo
11-12-18, 16:19
To Horse Trader.
You have good taste for girls. V is one of the best girls in La Zona, in both bars and street. But V is sensitive about her notoriety and does not want he name mentioned in the internet.
She's pretty and personable, with a beautiful, proportional body, clear, light, soft skin and all natural assets, giving loving sessions every time. V and I treat each other like old friends and exchange English / Spanish lessons every time we meet. Giotto admit, she learned English faster than I learned Spanish. Within 1 year from 0 English, she was able to pick up enough to talk about common issues.
Above all, she's open, honest, fun, sweet, loving, friendly, trusting like an educated person, the exact opposite of the nasty, ugly, rude, hardened hos in the US. She was a soccer player in high school, so her body is toned and firm, with open, honest, direct and friendly manners of a sportswoman. She's more fun to hang out with her fun, friendly, trusting manners and her English ability than HK girls. She lives in Tijuana with her Nina, no boyfriend, and is open to all-night dates.
Valentina.
Sunday evening did not present many of the kind of girls that I like. I was just about to give up when I spotted Valentina.
Try Valentina if you like girls that are tall (maybe 5'5") slender, pretty, natural, personable, functional English, fairly priced, accept pay after, and under 25 years old. I had a very nice experience with her in Cascadas and I will repeat. Her hair is medium brown, long, straight, and parted in the middle.
You won't like Valentina if you prefer big assess, fake tits, caked on makeup, or brassy personality.
Spent 5 nights (first two was sick) in Tijuana and the best things to have came out of it was meeting up with Lew and Horsetrader at Hong Kong Club. There was little to be impressed about and nothing but mainly girls with big asses, not particularly Monkeypaw's style at all. I spent about $600 on drinks in 3 nights while all these big booty girls blocked my view with their asses as I sat alone in the lower booth by the main stage. I was hoping all my tequilas would get me drunk enough to increase the weight limit on these girls so I could grab one. Didn't work. The more I got drunk, the more I was wondering "what the hell am I doing here?" Waiters told me the girls were pea cocking by blocking my view and then kept bring girls one by one, with me turning down about 20 of them. There were 3 potentials that I did call over.
1. Tokyo- short blonde hair, thin, but not spinner type. I kicked her out after 3 drinks because she called me barato for only tipping the waiter 20 pesos for her last lady drink. Before that, I had a running credit card tab and already gave him 300 pesos. She didn't know, but Monkeypaw didn't care. You aren't going disrespect me or else I throw your ass to the curb. Even when the waiter told her and she apologized, I was like fuck off.
2. Carla- spinner type, nice body, so so on the face. After 4 drinks, she wanted $150 for 1 hour but money first inside the club. Homey don't play that with the Thai girls, much less the Mexicanas. She got the boot too.
3. Hot girl whose name I forgot. Taller, slim, braces, and fake tits. She didn't even want a drink, was from Houston, spoke near perfect English and was exactly my type. She wanted $200 for 1 hour and all I had was $150 on me that night. I need my full hour when fucking. I told her tomorrow then (my 4th night), but never saw her again.
4. On last night, ended up grabbing Melissa, a street girl, next to La Gloria. Gave her $100 to come to my apartment 5 minutes away. She was nutty and had her earpiece on and her kept talking Spanish on the phone during our session. She was saying shit like "listen to him, I want you to listen. " She was describing what we did with whoever was on the phone with her. Crazy crazy. The no shower no hygiene thing turned me off. After about 30 minutes, I told her to jack me off and let me cum in her face which she allowed.
Final thoughts: Why I left Thailand? I dunno. I'm headed back now. Tijuana was like no bueno. Dirty dirty. But El Choforo nearby did have yummy seafood.
HorseTrader
11-12-18, 23:36
There was little to be impressed about and nothing but mainly girls with big asses, not particularly Monkeypaw's style at all. I spent about $600 on drinks in 3 nights while all these big booty girls blocked my view with their asses as I sat alone in the lower booth by the main stage. I was hoping all my tequilas would get me drunk enough to increase the weight limit on these girls so I could grab one. Didn't work. The more I got drunk, the more I was wondering "what the hell am I doing here?"Yep. Tijuana is a totally different experience than Thailand. Captain Solo has written that he prefers Tijuana over Asia, I assume others feel the same.
For those who enjoy smaller girls with less aggressive personalities, I recommend you make a trip to Thailand.
Captain Solo
11-13-18, 01:05
To Horse,
I had problems finding girls pretty enough to my taste for sex in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket. Their bodies were mostly not feminine but scrawny, stunted, disproportional or too lumpy for my taste; their faces not pretty, looking crude, if not ugly.
The manager of the prime massage parlor in Pattaya told me bluntly, " This ia a fuck place, not a massage place. For the best-looking girls go back to Bangkok. " In Bangkok I did not find too many pretty girls. One I pulled from a gogo bar in Nana Plaza was half Chinese. We had to walk around the area looking for a ST room as she would not go back to my holtel off Sukkumvit.
After a couple nights in Bangkok but could not find any hot girls, I giot horny and picked up a bar girl at a soi off Sukkhumvit. She looked about a 2 or 3 in the HK's beauty scale. Also went to an upscale escort service, picked out an expensive, high-class escort in a sexy red silk dress for all night sex. In the room when she took off her panties, her pussy stank horribly like a dead fish, I was so disgusted, had to ask her to leave the room quickly.
Did pick out a beautiful girl at a Western-themed bar, gave the mamasan 5,000 bahts in the bar for an all night deal at the then Livingstone Lodge. The girl was pretty with a near-perfect body and smooth, soft skin. She gave me one good shot. I was looking forward to the second shot when she put on her clothes and quickly slipped out the door, disregarding my offer for more money to stay. Damn.
Went to s soapy massage one afternoon but did not find any hot girls in the fish bowl. Finally picked Choi, a Cambodian, rated about a 5 in HK. She was doing her job quietly. Had a very sensual soapy massage and 2 shots on the massage table.
You should see how rude, ugly and hateful Thermae girls can turn against Euro cheap charlies. Their faces were grimacing in spite as they talked about the low offers. They prefer the easy-going and generous Japanese and Singaporeans. Sex industry in Thailand is highly commercialized, the girls are older, high-mileage, hardened, far more aggressive and mercenary than Tijuana girls to my observations.
Again, beauty is highly subjective, but pictures of Asian women in places like Angeles City, Bangkok, Hanoi ect as posted by the bros, showed old, ugly, lumpy women who would probably never get locals to fuck them for free, but foreigners were bragging about paying for the good finds.
Tijuana has much higher percentages of girls with fully-developed, sexy, feminine, nice, clean, beautiful bodies with pretty, gentle faces. Tijuana girls also aim to make money primarily, but they act far more gentle and nicer compared to Thai girls.
I will be taking a land tour through Thailand, from Bangkok through Phuket down to Hatyai at year end, but primarily for sight-seeing and people interactions, not expecting to find good sex partners in Thailand.
Yep. Tijuana is a totally different experience than Thailand. Captain Solo has written that he prefers Tijuana over Asia, I assume others feel the same.
For those who enjoy smaller girls with less aggressive personalities, I recommend you make a trip to Thailand.
DramaFree11
11-13-18, 02:22
Yep. Tijuana is a totally different experience than Thailand. Captain Solo has written that he prefers Tijuana over Asia, I assume others feel the same.
For those who enjoy smaller girls with less aggressive personalities, I recommend you make a trip to Thailand.I will stick with Mexico and Russia, Asia is not for me. I do not know how guys can not have fun in Tijuana, you almost have to work at it not enjoy the experience. That being said I would not stay in Tijuana, more then 2 or 3 days better destinations for longer stays.
Why I left Thailand? I dunno. I'm headed back now. Tijuana was like no bueno.That's why I prefer to spend 22 horrible hours flying economy to Bangkok rather than spending 2 hours driving in my comfortable SUV.
For the Latin experience, you should have gone to Colombia. No comparison! Colombia is way, way better than Tijuana.
Captain Solo has written that he prefers Tijuana over Asia, I assume others feel the same.NO, most others do not feel the same whatsoever! I seriously doubt if solo has ever been to LOS.
Thailand is incredible! The food, the people, and the culture are amazing.
Tijuana for me is my go to spot because it's 30 minutes away. I go down, have a couple of drinks, practice my shitty Spanish, pop a nut, and get the hell out of there. If you want to experience Mexico, go to Oaxaca, Pubela, or Mexico City.
If you want to experience Latin America, then Colombia, Peru, Argentina, DR, and Brazil all have fucking amazing women!
Captain Solo
11-13-18, 07:35
Had been in HK Wednesday night partying with a couple bros, having a good time, but by Friday a Tijuana old timer texted he wanted to go down to Tijuana Sunday for lunch. Due to the low supply of talents, I have not been in Tijuana before 8 PM for years. Finally decided to go to keep the bro company.
About 1:30, HK was already crowded with groups of guys partying noisily on the main floor and lots of guys just sitting in booths, watching strippers and girls quietly. HK had about half the number of talents of Friday night, missing most of the top-tiered, but still plenty of hot young girls of all sizes, shapes and colors, highly doable to my taste.
We were hungry so had to order lunch with Azul's buy 1 get 1 free coupon. Alan #29, a new young English-speaking mesero, was assigned to fill our order. He was brand-new in the job, but confirmed with management that he could get a steak and a pizza for $10. I wrote down and told him to talk to Simon, the English-speaking mesero in Azul, to cook the steak rare and cut it up. After 5 minutes he came back saying Azul was out of rib eye and would serve a filet mignon, guaranteed comparable in taste and flavor. I could not turn him down. He brought back a steak and a pizza box with extra tortillas and salsa, and was happy with a 50-peso propina.
We took a table on the balcony, eating, drinking, ogling strippers on the main stage, listening to exotic music, watching naked girls swirling around the poles right under us, eyeing hot, chicas parade by, watching NFL football on the giant TV screen, soccer games and various MMA fights on smaller screens, enjoying life in a grand way like the old Roman emperors. The steak was tender, juicy and tasty, a big meal with all the trimmings. The 12-inch pizza was delicious with a thick layer of melted Mozzarella cheese, about 5 times the amount normally found on Pizza Hut's. I did most of the eating as my wingman is a light eater.
The meseros and chicas were tactful. They never bothered us while we were eating our food. A tiny, young spinner with pretty face, bright red lipstick, straight blonde hair, walked past, laughing, giggling with her friends, so sexy and attractive. I meant to look for her after lunch but never found her again.
Life was great with all those tasty and sexy stimulants bombarding all our senses non stop, never a second to waste. Only those with dull sensors and broken reproduction equipment would fail to have a good time in HK.
It was a very good way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Hanging out with the bros with good food, good drinks and pretty girls in HK can be addictive, as a few of my new wingmen have found.
HorseTrader
11-13-18, 09:18
NO, most others do not feel the same whatsoever! I seriously doubt if solo has ever been to LOS.Some others agree with Solo, not most others.
Reading Solo's recent post tells me that he experienced a different Thailand than I experienced. The biggest difference in Solo's and my Thailand is cleanliness. My Thai people shower multiple times per day and are always clean. Even the lowest freelancer will shower before sex. Cheap oily massage places cost $9 for massage plus $40 for an hour of sex and massage, and those shops offer showers for customers and I've never had an unclean experience. The $26 BBBJ places have girls who use mouthwash and clean your cock with alcohol before providing services. The soapy shops have that name because a bath is part of the deal. Thai working girls are very clean, I wouldn't say that about Mexican girls. I think some of th Tijuana street girls do not shower on a daily basis. The Hong Kong girls seem clean to me.
I'm definitely a fan of Thailand. I come to Tijuana because I have business in San Diego.
Reading Solo's recent post tells me that he experienced a different Thailand than I experienced. Which explains that he has never been there!
Others are too cheap to make the trip and will never experience the LOS treasures. Thus, Tijuana is the best place in the world???
Is it just me or is this town dry right now? I went in on Sunday night, I know not the best night but there were no A or b listers to be seen. And these girls have the personality of a broom stick. I don't necessarily even care if a girl is a 10 or not, I like girls that give you a good time and have a good personality. These girls aren't trained properly or they just hate their job. They need to find girls that actually like men. AB is more of the same, down trodden boring girls. Hopefully things pick up after the holiday.
Reading Solo's recent post tells me that he experienced a different Thailand than I experienced. The biggest difference in Solo's and my Thailand is cleanliness. Solo's experience is definitely unique. Don't know what date he was there. There are currently several short time hotels inside Nana. There is no need to go out to find a room. It is also rare that girl won't go to your hotel.
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ScatManDoo
11-14-18, 05:50
Which explains that he has never been there!Tom: With this post I thought you were just joking.
(S)'s experience is definitely unique. Don't know what date he was there. There are currently several short time hotels inside Nana. There is no need to go out to find a room. It is also rare that girl won't go to your hotel.But after reading Nounce's post, I should be taking TomJackin more seriously!
JesseJames
11-14-18, 12:06
Some others agree with Solo, not most others.
Reading Solo's recent post tells me that he experienced a different Thailand than I experienced. The biggest difference in Solo's and my Thailand is cleanliness. My Thai people shower multiple times per day and are always clean. Even the lowest freelancer will shower before sex. Cheap oily massage places cost $9 for massage plus $40 for an hour of sex and massage, and those shops offer showers for customers and I've never had an unclean experience. The $26 BBBJ places have girls who use mouthwash and clean your cock with alcohol before providing services. The soapy shops have that name because a bath is part of the deal. Thai working girls are very clean, I wouldn't say that about Mexican girls. I think some of th Tijuana street girls do not shower on a daily basis. The Hong Kong girls seem clean to me.
I'm definitely a fan of Thailand. I come to Tijuana because I have business in San Diego.A Thai chick won't give you a hug or even touch you until you've both had showers. However, having sex, in Tijuana with a girl who's been standing on the street dirty and sweaty is a turn on too.
I think the woman are so busy that they have no need to talk. Most want sex even three drinks in 35 minutes is of little interest. All the clubs look twice as packed as last year to me. I used to go to Hong Kong and they woman would all come say Hello,. Now maybe two say Hello, in s hour. They prefer sex not talk. Talk is cheap.Yes and no. There's a lot of girls just sitting around looking miserable and getting no business. Way too many girls that should be doing something else. No personality or they just don't like it. I have noticed the pushy factor for going upstairs. I enjoy the flirting and there doesn't seem to be as much to me anymore. I used to walk into the place and easily find someone to kiss and hug every time. But more importantly I just haven't seen much eye candy or talent, it was nothing but see level quality. A lot of the old stars aren't around much anymore and there hasn't been a new wave to takeover. I don't know, maybe just a crap week.
Captain Solo
11-14-18, 20:22
Went to HK Tuesday night with a couple wingmen, arriving about 7:30.
HK had a lot of girls and guys, but not jam packed like weekends. Monday and Tuesday, Cascada has 80% room discount for VIP, HK has coupon for 2 free beers, but the free lapdance coupon is no longer valid. There was no cover charges, so the new wingmen were wandering in and out of the club, not having to deal with the hassles by the doormen.
There were a few very cute spinners who fascinated my wingmen. The spinner in a classy teal party dress with short bangs of straight brown hair looked pretty, nice, clean, smiling, wholesome, but quoted $150 and did not budge. That was the first time I heard $150 quote, likely not the last, but a new trend for HK girls to quote $150. She disappeared a few times so guys did take her to the hotel at that rate.
There were many hot girls, but I always liked Jacqueline, the tall, classy girl with her black glasses frame on her pretty face, light skin, no tattoos, looking exactly like a few Jewish princesses in my undergraduate years. She was dancing on top of Barra Kowloon, her long, strong, shapely legs and her lanky body were looking extremely attractive. I made a deal and took her to Cascada. Her body was all natural, soft, smooth, supple skin without blemishes. She seemed to enjoy deep, hard strokes, whimpering softly with her eyes fluttering in pleasure. She was a nice, sweet, gentle girl, let me do everything I wanted except DFK. All her expressions seemed sweet and genuine. We were cuddling in bed for a while after sex, talking with my pigeon Spanish with no hurry on her part. I would do this sweet, sexy, pretty, classy girl again.
Surprisingly Tuesday night Adleita has a few new, young girls, rated 8 or 9 in my book, one with the cutest, prettiest face with a pierced ring in her nose, quoting $60,80, but seemed disinterested in engaging clients. In light of Hk's $150 quotes, Adelita is definitely worth checking out for this new wave of fresh, hot talents.
Dcrist0527
11-14-18, 23:15
In light of Hk's $150 quotes, Adelita is definitely worth checking out for this new wave of fresh, hot talents.$150 for 30 minutes is laughable. Perhaps there are some that will pay that. Not me! I would consider $150 for a full hour but she would have to be damn near my dream girl. Maybe I'm becoming a Tijuana veteran. LOL But there is no way they can justify that price. Thinking back to my best HK experience, I might pay $100 for it again. Maybe. The first girl that starts at $150 will get laughed at by me. I completely believe these girls deserve respect. But not when they are robbing us like that!
I went to HK on Monday with a friend for a bombing run. I saw some marines getting ready for caravan just before Mexico gate. Uber to HK for 40 pesos, got a room at Cascadas and went downstairs. HK still slow, so were just drinking and watching Monday night football. HK getting busy later into the night.
I saw some new faces and some old ones. After couple of drinks I'm ready for chicas, walking around to see the talent. I saw Mali (tall, dirty blond, lanky, dark skin), I passed on her bc I banged her one and her pussy kinda stinks. Well, I guess she barebacking her boyfriend a lot.
I saw Mari from Sonora (she's in HK 2018 Calender). I've had her before but she gained weight, so I passed.
I saw infamous Kitty (tall, slim, tan skin with Hello, kitty tattoo on her leg). I know her story, so I passed again, but some of my friends like her.
I met Sky light skin spinner with nice round natural boobs from Colima, bought her a drink with good convo. She seemed too business like for me so I let her go after a drink.
Finally, I met Lisbeth spinner from Sonora. Just worked couple weeks ago. Took her up got $60. By the time we were in the room she asked for money upfront. As my usual I showed her the money and put it back in my pocket. She's okay with it. OK where do I begin. She bit junior while doing BJ, and she rushed me. I tried to calm her down with DFK- ing her, and told her this is my room don't worry about the 30 minutes rule. She calmed down a bit for 5 minutes and then again looking at the clock. So I just banged her hard because junior almost went limp with all the debacles so I can finish. After I'm done she just got dressed right away an went back to HK. Yep without showering. I just cleaned up myself. The whole experience felt rushed, barely 30 minutes.
Back downstairs I saw my friend took a dark skin spinner arriba. He just got a BBBJ and CFS in lap dance room for $50 but he couldn't finish, so he took her up to continue where it left off. I asked him after, he paid another $100 for an hour GFE. My goodness!
I'm looking for another girl, new shift girls coming in. I saw Sowy one of the girls I banged before but I'm looking for new ones. I like variety. Variety is the spice of life!
Spotted Ana from Monterrey, gorgeous girl with her pretty friend (small anchor tattoo under her front neck). Anyone knows who she is? Please do tell!
She's friends of Bonnie another gorgeous Monterrey girl. These two wouldn't budge from $100. I love Monterrey girls. I already booked a flight to Monterrey, more on that later.
I finished my night with SG Jennifer. I was waiting for Jamiel from CDMX, bob short hair cut, light skin that always carried small cute backpack working in HK. She was busy.
Overall, just an okay night, could have been better.
I'll be back in Tijuana next Monday for 3 days and off to Monterrey from Tijuana for another 3 days weekend. My first time there. I'm tired of Tijuana just want a new scenery. Did I say I love Monterrey girls. Hopefully I have a good time there. My friend just bailed on me so I'll be there myself.
Ok, I'm going to move it to Monterrey threads from here.
HorseTrader
11-15-18, 04:15
In light of Hk's $150 quotes, Adelita is definitely worth checking out for this new wave of fresh, hot talents.I just spent 8 of the last 9 evenings in HK, I missed Saturday. Every girl initially quoted $80. The ones I took upstairs accepted less for the standard 30 minute session. I also arranged 3 longer time sessions where I paid much more, but I got much more. I never heard a quote for $100 or more.
Initial quotes from AB, Tropical, and Chicago were all $60 or $70.
Chicago Club now looks pretty good. All they need are prettier girls.
$150 is now becoming the standard quoted rate in HK. The chief source of mis-information has said so. Haven't you heard?
I just spent 8 of the last 9 evenings in HK, I missed Saturday. Every girl initially quoted $80. The ones I took upstairs accepted less for the standard 30 minute session. I also arranged 3 longer time sessions where I paid much more, but I got much more. I never heard a quote for $100 or more.
Captain Solo
11-15-18, 07:13
To Horse,
You must like HK a lot to spend all 8 nights in HK, pulling multiple girls. HK girls would quote $100 just in case some newbies would pay it. There's no point to insult and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off. With a little bit of gentle persuasion, they usually accept much less, or you can always talk to other girls. Window shopping, boobs squeezing, crotch groping, tire kicking are fun sports in HK hehe. Hot Monterrey girls have always stuck to their firm $100 sessions for the last 10 years that I know them.
I always take a quick tour of Adelita when I am in town. This week they have some very hot, fresh, young spinners, definitely worth banging. The atmosphere in Adelita is lower pressure. Meseros don't keep coming one after another to push drinks and food on the bros and the girls like in HK. It's understandable why a few bros prefer Adelita.
Quality of Chicago's girls has been dismal, strippers are not good-looking, atmosphere not festive. CC attracts a lot fewer guys who would drink quietly, not partying noisily like in HK, don't tip strippers and few take girls upstairs. CC is so boring I usually leave after 1 beer.
The good news is Adelita is now bringing hot girls, so perhaps CC will figure out how to do the same things and become another worthy competitor to HK, improving the overall sex market.
I just spent 8 of the last 9 evenings in HK, I missed Saturday. Every girl initially quoted $80. The ones I took upstairs accepted less for the standard 30 minute session. I also arranged 3 longer time sessions where I paid much more, but I got much more. I never heard a quote for $100 or more.
Initial quotes from AB, Tropical, and Chicago were all $60 or $70.
Chicago Club now looks pretty good. All they need are prettier girls.
Captain Solo
11-15-18, 17:47
I don't remember exactly.
Thew- half-Chinese girl may have been working in a gogo bar in Patpong, pretty far from Sukkhumvit.
That's why she did not want to go to my hotel.
Solo's experience is definitely unique. Don't know what date he was there. There are currently several short time hotels inside Nana. There is no need to go out to find a room. It is also rare that girl won't go to your hotel.
On Adelitas instagram account, they are promoting Mon, Tues, and wends $20 hotel deals. Has anybody tried that at hotel Coahuila. It would be nice to take a girl up and not have to worry about time. Thanks!
DramaFree11
11-16-18, 00:18
Just started my dream Thanksgiving Holidays.
1. 2 Days in Tijuana, mostly H. K.
2. 4 Days in MTY.
3. Highlight of my Trip 10 days in Moscow.
-November 21-December 2nd.
I will provide a more detailed report, finishing up in Tijuana tonight. 1 day back in Houston, then MTY.
Went to HK tonight (Nov 15), negotiated the price with te girl, Ivana, then arriba. In the room, the girl asked for up-front payment. I told her I already said payment after (pagar despues servicio, even showed her the note in writing). I then showed her the money and told her that I would cancel if she insisted payment upfront. She oked it. Then foreplay a few min, finger sensed a big tampon inside (pussy). Very angry and quitted it. The girl dragged me and asked for payment. I went outside and asked the staff to get the security. Later, both the security and the manager showed up. Explained the situation.
The girl in period and cheated me, still with tampon inside. Will you fuck a tampon if you were me? Get one female staff to check about it. He did not respond.
Now the girl played the trick: played weakness, tear on face.
The manager translated it: the girl claimed I beat her.
I told the manager: I did not want to proceed since the girl in period with tampon. I do not want to quarrel w / her. Why would I call the security if I beat her. He did not respond.
Then the manager translated it again: the girl said I gave her the money and then took it back. I should pay her $100.
What the hell? I pulled out the note and showed it to both the security and the manager. I clearly put it in writing.
1) pagar despues servicio.
2) MXN 1200 peso + propinas good service.
I just showed the girl that I had the money in room, but I would pay only after service.
Although I explained them all this, the manager still asked me to pay her. I am totally pissed off, especially, the ***** cheated me. Now, I do not think that the HK staff do not know who is lying. Finally, the manager, asked me to pay the ***** $50, and he can give me a coupon for 1 free night. I am from San Diego, never stay overnight there. However, the manager said that is the best he can do. Otherwise they would call the police to resolve it.
Forced to accept it (threat from the managr) though not happy.
When I was walking outside, the manager talked to the security, who then told me that I could not go to the bar immediately, I had to wait for a couple hours, say, after 8 PM (want me to pay the entrance fee?
What the fuck? I am the victim and expect HK to handle it in a fair manner. But, now see what they did. This is how they treat their customers!
I went to HK many many times! Never experienced such an issue before. Ridiculous that I was forced to pay a ***** who did not provide the service. Ridiculous that they would not fuck tampons but they think the customers should! (I just quitted it when I sensed it iwth my finger!! I paid $70 for nothing!
The ***** is Ivana. She is from Guadalajara.
Captain Solo
11-16-18, 14:32
Dramafree has gotten all his priorities right and managed to arrange his life in perfect order.
Would be very nice to celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year, Chinese New year, Valentine days ect with the beautiful chicas of Monterrey wihtout impacts and repercussions from our professional and social life.
The pics of Monterrey escorts in Regioscorts are so hot, I wonder if the hot escorts will show up looking anywhere half as good as their pics. Other bros have suspected the pics are Russian / Ukrainian models.
Keep us informed how it turns out, blow by blow, please.
VIP Tour.
Just started my dream Thanksgiving Holidays.
1. 2 Days in Tijuana, mostly H. K.
2. 4 Days in MTY.
3. Highlight of my Trip 10 days in Moscow.
-November 21-December 2nd.
I will provide a more detailed report, finishing up in Tijuana tonight. 1 day back in Houston, then MTY.
Captain Solo
11-16-18, 14:47
Adelita / Coahuila Rooms discount to $20 only on Monday, subject to availability. HK / Cascada's single rooms are discounted to $11 both Monday and Tuesday.
HK is still much better but Adelita had some very sweet-looking young girls last week, quoting $60-80. The bros should check them out.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqGkQ6CHSs3/
AdelitabartjRoom at $ 20 USD on Mondays.
Courtesy in national drinks on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Comfort and fun guaranteed.
* Mentioning this post at hotel coahuila tijuana. Promotion subject to availability.
* National drinks do not include tequilas "Don Julio".
http://adelita.com.mx/the-hotel
Room $50 for 3 hours and $100 all night. Damn.
DramaFree11
11-16-18, 18:43
On Adelitas instagram account, they are promoting Mon, Tues, and wends $20 hotel deals. Has anybody tried that at hotel Coahuila. It would be nice to take a girl up and not have to worry about time. Thanks!Not a big fan of that Hotel or Adelitas, but if you do not have to deal with them banging on the door, it would make a much better experience. I would rather just pay a little more and go to HK.
ScatManDoo
11-16-18, 19:10
Went to HK tonight (Nov 15), negotiated the price with te girl, Ivana, then arriba. In the room, the girl asked for up-front payment. I told her I already said payment after (pagar despues servicio, even showed her the note in writing). I then showed her the money and told her that I would cancel if she insisted payment upfront. She oked it. Then foreplay a few min, finger sensed a big tampon inside (pussy). Very angry and quitted it. The girl dragged me and asked for payment. I went outside and asked the staff to get the security. Later, both the security and the manager showed up. Explained the situation.
The girl in period and cheated me, still with tampon inside. Will you fuck a tampon if you were me? Get one female staff to check about it. He did not respond.
Now the girl played the trick: played weakness, tear on face.
The manager translated it: the girl claimed I beat her.
I told the manager: I did not want to proceed since the girl in period with tampon. I do not want to quarrel w / her. Why would I call the security if I beat her. He did not respond.
Then the manager translated it again: the girl said I gave her the money and then took it back. I should pay her $100..You were robbed by HK's manager. Did you get his name?
Member #4722
11-16-18, 19:59
Went to HK tonight (Nov 15), negotiated the price with te girl, Ivana, then arriba. In the room, the girl asked for up-front payment. I told her I already said payment after (pagar despues servicio, even showed her the note in writing). I then showed her the money and told her that I would cancel if she insisted payment upfront. She oked it. Then foreplay a few min, finger sensed a big tampon inside (pussy). Very angry and quitted it. The girl dragged me and asked for payment. I went outside and asked the staff to get the security. Later, both the security and the manager showed up. Explained the situation.
The girl in period and cheated me, still with tampon inside. Will you fuck a tampon if you were me? Get one female staff to check about it. He did not respond.
Now the girl played the trick: played weakness, tear on face.
The manager translated it: the girl claimed I beat her.
I told the manager: I did not want to proceed since the girl in period with tampon. I do not want to quarrel w / her. Why would I call the security if I beat her. He did not respond.
Then the manager translated it again: the girl said I gave her the money and then took it back. I should pay her $100..You totally got fucked and I feel for you. However, once any sexual contact is initiated (in this case finger in the pussy) you basically lose all leverage in the dispute. Personally I would have just paid and told them to fuck off. Actually surprised you got anything at all from them.
Went to HK tonight (Nov 15), negotiated the price with te girl, Ivana, then arriba. In the room, the girl asked for up-front payment. I told her I already said payment after (pagar despues servicio, even showed her the note in writing). I then showed her the money and told her that I would cancel if she insisted payment upfront. She oked it. Then foreplay a few min, finger sensed a big tampon inside (pussy). Very angry and quitted it. The girl dragged me and asked for payment. I went outside and asked the staff to get the security. Later, both the security and the manager showed up. Explained the situation.
The girl in period and cheated me, still with tampon inside. Will you fuck a tampon if you were me? Get one female staff to check about it. He did not respond.
Now the girl played the trick: played weakness, tear on face.
The manager translated it: the girl claimed I beat her.
I told the manager: I did not want to proceed since the girl in period with tampon. I do not want to quarrel w / her. Why would I call the security if I beat her. He did not respond.
Then the manager translated it again: the girl said I gave her the money and then took it back. I should pay her $100.
What the hell? I pulled out the note and showed it to both the security and the manager. I clearly put it in writing.I've had similar. Took the girl up. I think she demanded it upfront and I told her no thanks. I got the hint that this wasn't going to go well. If you're arguing with her then it's a losing situation already, service isn't going to be good. I told her I didn't want her company anymore and she got pissed. I think she threatened to call security if I didn't pay her for 5 minutes of nothing LOL. I ended up throwing a 20 at her and got the heck out of there. I don't want any part of a he said she said with management. They're going to take her side and I don't speak enough Spanish to defend myself. I was OK with cutting my losses at 38 to get away from a crap situation. Unfortunately some of these girls are scam artists. They're a sweetheart downstairs but everything changes upstairs.
The Tall Man
11-17-18, 06:01
Went to HK tonight (Nov 15), negotiated the price with te girl, Ivana, then arriba. In the room, the girl asked for up-front payment. I told her I already said payment after (pagar despues servicio, even showed her the note in writing). I then showed her the money and told her that I would cancel if she insisted payment upfront. She oked it. Then foreplay a few min, finger sensed a big tampon inside (pussy). Very angry and quitted it. The girl dragged me and asked for payment. I went outside and asked the staff to get the security. Later, both the security and the manager showed up. Explained the situation.
The girl in period and cheated me, still with tampon inside. Will you fuck a tampon if you were me? Get one female staff to check about it. He did not respond.
Now the girl played the trick: played weakness, tear on face.
The manager translated it: the girl claimed I beat her.
I told the manager: I did not want to proceed since the girl in period with tampon. I do not want to quarrel w / her. Why would I call the security if I beat her. He did not respond.
Then the manager translated it again: the girl said I gave her the money and then took it back. I should pay her $100.
What the hell? I pulled out the note and showed it to both the security and the manager. I clearly put it in writing.
1) pagar despues servicio.
2) MXN 1200 peso + propinas good service.
I just showed the girl that I had the money in room, but I would pay only after service.
Although I explained them all this, the manager still asked me to pay her. I am totally pissed off, especially, the ***** cheated me. Now, I do not think that the HK staff do not know who is lying. Finally, the manager, asked me to pay the ***** $50, and he can give me a coupon for 1 free night. I am from San Diego, never stay overnight there. However, the manager said that is the best he can do. Otherwise they would call the police to resolve it.
Forced to accept it (threat from the managr) though not happy.
When I was walking outside, the manager talked to the security, who then told me that I could not go to the bar immediately, I had to wait for a couple hours, say, after 8 PM (want me to pay the entrance fee?
What the fuck? I am the victim and expect HK to handle it in a fair manner. But, now see what they did. This is how they treat their customers!
I went to HK many many times! Never experienced such an issue before. Ridiculous that I was forced to pay a ***** who did not provide the service. Ridiculous that they would not fuck tampons but they think the customers should! (I just quitted it when I sensed it iwth my finger!! I paid $70 for nothing!
The ***** is Ivana. She is from Guadalajara.All I can say is ouch, wow customer service at it's absolute worst.
The Tall Man.
You totally got fucked and I feel for you. However, once any sexual contact is initiated (in this case finger in the pussy) you basically lose all leverage in the dispute. Personally I would have just paid and told them to fuck off. Actually surprised you got anything at all from them.I agree with Rog. You got pissed and it ruined your evening. Not worthed it for a measly $100. This happened to me a couple of times at other places and my evening was ruined as a result. I got angry, arguing with the girl and the club management. Also, I presume you will avoid HK for a while and you will be the loser, as that club has the best girls compared to other clubs. But thanks for giving us the girl's name. I will make sure to avoid her, even after her period is over.
Baxter Slade
11-17-18, 14:50
I agree with Rog. You got pissed and it ruined your evening. Not worthed it for a measly $100. This happened to me a couple of times at other places and my evening was ruined as a result. I got angry, arguing with the girl and the club management. Also, I presume you will avoid HK for a while and you will be the loser, as that club has the best girls compared to other clubs. But thanks for giving us the girl's name. I will make sure to avoid her, even after her period is over. I agree with most of what you say BUT avoiding HK is the best thing I have done as far as Tijuana trips go.
.......................The girl in period and cheated me, still with tampon inside.
........................I have actually never experienced this nor have I ever heard of a provider attempting a session on her period. Hope this scam never catches on otherwise we'd have to ask every provider whether she's on her period before going arriba. If she answers in the affirmative then we'd be quite within our right to demand anal at no extra charge.
You were robbed by HK's manager. Did you get his name?I am speculating that in the heat of the moment, he complained to the Cascadas manager rather than the HK manager. If so it is like complaining to the police that one's house is on fire. While it can't hurt, it doesn't really help. I doubt that the HK manager would allow a girl to work while on her period and ruin the reputation of the club. But it's just my speculation.
ClamSlammer
11-17-18, 18:00
I have actually never experienced this nor have I ever heard of a provider attempting a session on her period. Hope this scam never catches on otherwise we'd have to ask every provider whether she's on her period before going arriba. If she answers in the affirmative then we'd be quite within our right to demand anal at no extra charge.It is common practice amongst the putas in ZN to use baby wipes in place of tampons while on their period to provide full service.
CaptJackSparro
11-17-18, 22:13
Just curious: how many of you guys only see working girls exclusively? Like no stateside girlfriend or civilian dating.
If you only see working girls: what made you decide to do that for the rest of your life? Crave variety or got burned by a relationship in the past?
ScatManDoo
11-17-18, 23:37
I have actually never experienced this nor have I ever heard of a provider attempting a session on her period. Hope this scam never catches onI don't know where you've been, but my very first session (back in October 2004) was with an Adelitas chica that tried to hide the fact that she was on her period.
I was new and paid up front.
I was fucking her for just a minute or two when I realized something didn't feel right. I looked down and saw RED all over my business. She apologized, and then quickly dressed and left me alone to clean myself up.
And I have read at least a dozen other reports of menstruating chicas trying to still work.
I have actually never experienced this nor have I ever heard of a provider attempting a session on her period. Hope this scam never catches on otherwise we'd have to ask every provider whether she's on her period before going arriba. If she answers in the affirmative then we'd be quite within our right to demand anal at no extra charge.I never experienced a session with a dancer on her period. I've been turned down 5 or 6 times because the girls said they were on period though, or did they really? Hahaha.
CaptJackSparro
11-18-18, 22:38
Have had this happen several times. More common with street girls than bar, but have had both.
They blamed the size of my penis or that they didn't know they were about to start their period. Both are BS excuses and infuriating.
The best thing you can do when a girl bleeds on you is to become angry and demand to see her health card. That way you get to see her real name and possibly report her to the bar or government if she is known for this behavior. I think guys let them off the hook too easy and that's why they continue this sort of behavior.
We need to make it very uncomfortable for putas to think they can expose us to their blood without making them have consequences for doing so.
Dcrist0527
11-19-18, 16:58
Have had this happen several times. More common with street girls than bar, but have had both.
They blamed the size of my penis or that they didn't know they were about to start their period. Both are BS excuses and infuriating.
The best thing you can do when a girl bleeds on you is to become angry and demand to see her health card. That way you get to see her real name and possibly report her to the bar or government if she is known for this behavior. I think guys let them off the hook too easy and that's why they continue this sort of behavior.
We need to make it very uncomfortable for putas to think they can expose us to their blood without making them have consequences for doing so.Totally agree. Thankfully that hasn't happened to me. I am a huge advocate of treating these girls with respect. However, if a girl did that to me, I would flip. This game is dangerous enough. Add blood to the mix and it increases the stakes. Knock on wood, I've never had any health issues. All of my tests have come back clean. But this crosses a line, in my book. I agree. We should raise those issues with bar management and report it here. If this truly is a common practice, it needs to be reported here and I think that could very well cause concern with bar management about what they allow when enough people react.
Met Caroline or Carolina. I saw her dancing on the bar. She was slaying, amazing energy. She's probably my quintessential HK girl. Dark hair, light skin, dark almond eyes, slim tight body, only 20 yo. Bought her a few drinks to test her out. She was all business, lots of upsell for upstairs. Kind of bittersweet because she was still a great time, amazing lap dance and she allowed only light kissing. By the third drink I had her sucking on my ears and neck. Probably an amazing time upstairs but I was already tapped from previous activities. Not much of a report but the girl was a stunner to me and the first time in months that an HK girl piqued my interest so much. But other than that it was the same usual suspects like cone girl and the Chinese one.
MongerHunger
11-20-18, 06:32
Headed to HK for some pre-game activities before doing some recon around the Coahuila Strip. There was 2 cream shows going on. One upstairs and one downstairs. The one downstairs started wrapping up and I got to get in a little action. Played at the "YY " a little bit, squeezed some soft ass and breast. These chicas were sliding around on the stage, playing with each other, etc. After awhile they went to the hot tub to clean up and clean the money. I headed upstairs to the other cream show. 2 pretty chicas having some fun, lots of smiles with braces and flirting. One chica was named Pixie and the other was Foxy Girl / Lady. I joined in the fun with propinas for both. Play in the "YY" and enjoyed the muscle control squeezing on my finger. I was enjoying it. After some time there I moved around the club for a price check. Most chicas were firm at $80 but there were also some firm at $100. It seems that more and more chicas are setting the bar at $100 per session. This has been an upward trend of price gouging.
After awhile of walking around having fun, talking and playing with the chicas I exited the club on the Coahuila side. I noticed the black Mercedes Benz out in front of the club. There is going to be a contest at HK in May for the best VIP chica. The winner will get the Mercedes Benz as a price. I wonder what they are going to have to do to win it. Maybe if they do enough free favors for management will get them the prize. Who knows? I headed on down the block to conduct recon and enjoy the mission.
Long Don Silva
11-20-18, 08:19
I got to the border a little after 10 and was excited to see that there is no long line of cars waiting to get into the $12 lot behind Jack in the Box. I've been settling for the $20 lot right next to it just because I don't have to wait 10 or 15 minutes in line. Instead of ignoring the guys calling me for a taxi after crossing into Mexico, I responded to the first one with $3 to La Coahuila. I was directed to the Hong-Kong limo where 4 or 5 other guys were waiting to go. I tipped the limo driver $3 after getting out and pounced on the scene. After touring through Adelita and Chicago, I checked the alley and decided that HK would be the best place to settle in.
I eventually found Aide from my last trip and decided to go for a sure thing GFE all the way. We went to Miami Room for a drink and the only seats available were right in front of the stripper stage, where one of my other amigas Angelica / Kata was putting on a show. She's the punk rocker girl from Adelita I hooked up with over a month ago. Feeling bitter sweet at the idea of seeing another girl with whom I was looking forward to a repeat but already committing a beverage to Aide, I immediately tipped Kata a dollar for a feel. She responded with a kiss gesture. Another guy came along and made it rain for her and a minute later I saw her kissing him on the mouth while still dancing on stage. This made me more interested in focusing on Aide. I still tipped Kata another dollar as she walked past me when she finished her show.
I took Aide for a fantastic repeat session and afterwards she was particularly curious about the KY jelly I brought. So I tossed it over to her and told her to keep it.
Back downstairs I eventually decided to check out the alley, getting approval from one of the doormen to let me back in without paying the cover. I almost immediately saw another repeat opportunity with Alondra, who was quite eager to please but left me slightly disappointed at the fact that she only road cowgirl for literally a minute or two. She eventually admitted to me that I was her fourth session of the day which explains the lack of energy, but I appreciate her honesty. She's very straight up about her job.
Although I had been gone for closer to a half hour, the door man still let me in without paying the cover. Good deal. I quickly saw a tall spinner with a gorgeous face, shapely figure for a spinner, and was eyeing her for awhile but thought I would check out the scene first. I toured the club and saw Kata again, who was still with the same guy from before.
I made my way back to Miyoki the tall girl, giving her the eye for a few seconds, waiting to gauge her reciprocity before I moved in to close the deal. I was feeling it, thus I bought her a drink. We eventually came to agreeable terms and headed upstairs, a decision that I will cherish for the rest of my life.
This was by far the wettest girl I have ever experienced. She started on top and was working it from various angles I had never experienced before. Since this was my third session of the evening, it took me a while to finish but she kept moving in a manner to suggest that she still wanted more so I tried as I could until I couldn't, but she was practically begging for it. So I asked her, "Again?" Since I'm pretty sure she already got off once or twice and I said OK and started fingering her while she very meticulously guided me as to exactly how she wanted her nipples sucked. I could tell when she climaxed so I stopped and looked up at her face and she nodded a smile of approval. She didn't squirt but she completely drenched my hand in her juices as I was fingering her. I will be looking to find her again probably every time I come back. Wet and wild for sure.
I just want to give a friendly reminder that I have yet to pay over $80 here in the month and a half since I moved back to the area, and they've all been GFE or near GFE sessions, all during peak Saturday night hours. It can be done, you just need to have good hygiene, novice bargaining skills, and intermediate fluency in Spanish. It also helps to consider if the girl seems like she's having a good time with you or is she just looking off into space like she's working at a job she doesn't like. Practice makes perfect so just keep trying. On numerous occasions, I've even had to turn down girls that come right up to me with LFK bordering on DFK just because they caught me shortly after a prior session. Carpe diem!
Captain Solo
11-20-18, 20:35
To Long Dong.
Glad you had a few hot sessions in Tijuana.
Quite a few Tijuana Club and street chicas love to have hot sex with the right guys who treat them with honesty, dignity and the sincerest flatter. The girls would caress guys lovingly, clawing their backs, pulling their butts in, panting, talking dirty, moaning, groaning near climax, leaving big wet spots of vaginas' fluid on the bed, smiling shy, satisfied smiles at the end. If you find the right girls, sex can be more satisfying than any GFs.
For the benefits of the bros who are being driven out of HK due to high chicas' prices, I speak very little Spanish and learned only a few phrases to negotiate with the chicas with a smile. I still get plenty of sessions with the top-tiered chicas with suckie fuckie sin ropa para Un Mil con propina, pagar despues servicio (1,000 pesos or about $55). They would whine and complain a little like they were making a big sacrifice fucking me for so little money, but they would still enjoy the sex and taking the money hehe.
The bros should always approach their favorite girls with a soft and sweet smile, asking how they are, their names and home town, flattering them with a few compliments ect then negotiate and likely get good sessions for $60 (sesenta), $70 (setenta), $80 (ochenta), $90 (noventa), $100 (cien). The girls are used to negotiate and bargain for everything so don't be afraid of offending them.
ScatManDoo
11-20-18, 22:20
To Long Dong.
Glad you had a few hot sessions in Tijuana.
Quite a few Tijuana Club and street chicas love to have hot sex with the right guys who treat them with honesty, dignity and the sincerest flatter. The girls would caress guys lovingly, clawing their backs, pulling their butts in, panting, talking dirty, moaning, groaning near climax, leaving big wet spots of vaginas' fluid on the bed, smiling shy, satisfied smiles at the end. If you find the right girls, sex can be more satisfying than any GFs.
For the benefits of the bros who are being driven out of HK due to high chicas' prices, I speak very little Spanish and learned only a few phrases to negotiate with the chicas with a smile. I still get plenty of sessions with the top-tiered chicas with suckie fuckie sin ropa para Un Mil con propina, pagar despues servicio (1,000 pesos or about $55). They would whine and complain a little like they were making a big sacrifice fucking me for so little money, but they would still enjoy the sex and taking the money hehe.
The bros should always approach their favorite girls with a soft and sweet smile, asking how they are, their names and home town, flattering them with a few compliments ect then negotiate and likely get good sessions for $60 (sesenta), $70 (setenta), $80 (ochenta), $90 (noventa), $100 (cien). The girls are used to negotiate and bargain for everything so don't be afraid of offending them.I completely agree and think the captain could even be talking about fees lower than he stated.
DramaFree11
11-21-18, 02:40
Just finishing up the second stop of my trip. Back to Houston, for a few hours of work, pick up my new Passport, Re-Load on Funds and get some clean clothes. I have been averaging about 2-4 hours of fucking a day. Girls I see in MTY I rotate them out, a couple of them are looking for serious relationships, not for me at the moment.
Comparison Tijuana and MTY.
Tijuana.
1. I forgot how much I miss Tijuana and San Diego, the food, girls and the weather.
2. HK is where I spent most of my time, love the place, as I have said in many posts we tend to take it for granted.
3. Girls were asking between $80-100, no surprises.
4. I took 2 girls to restaurant in HK, lot's of fun and much cheaper then buying the girls drinks in the HK. I highly recommend this, great way to get to know them and they tend to relax there and have fun.
5. One girl came over and had dinner with me at the Grand Hotel, we went to a nice Rest, by the Golf Course.
6. I do find the girls better looking in Tijuana, but for long term Mongering more difficult in Tijuana for obvious reasons.
7. I mostly went to HK, visited Adelitas a few times, but I just do not like it anymore, walked in and walked out, I feel I has real went down hill.
8. 2 night reserved a room for the night at HK, but when I finished I went back to the Grand Hotel.
MTY.
1. I have been here 5-6 times now, in the last 3 months, love it, but the weather real sucks.
2. Girls natural, and skinny in the San Pedro area, I do not go to Central MTY, so can can not comment on that area. I still have not visited the clubs. Girls come to me.
3. Hotel is great.
4. Food not as good as Tijuana, and more expensive, but still very good.
5. Total GFE.
6. Girls will stay for longer period of time, usually 1. 5-3 hours.
Hope this helps you guys, love both places, but Tijuana for short visits, MTY for long term, but the weather sucks and I would probably pick Tijuana for those reasons. Off to Moscow now, I will keep you updated.
Good luck.
GoodSense3
11-21-18, 03:30
Will Wednesday night before Thanksgiving cause a dropoff in street and club eyecandy options in Zona or not really? Will it be more like a Tuesday. One of slowest days of week with less options I've noticed. I've been all days of week. Just have not been around national holiday timeframe yet.
Long Don Silva
11-21-18, 07:03
For the benefits of the bros who are being driven out of HK due to high chicas' prices, I speak very little Spanish and learned only a few phrases to negotiate with the chicas with a smile. I still get plenty of sessions with the top-tiered chicas with suckie fuckie sin ropa para Un Mil con propina, pagar despues servicio (1,000 pesos or about $55). They would whine and complain a little like they were making a big sacrifice fucking me for so little money, but they would still enjoy the sex and taking the money heheI admit I'm far from a shrewd negotiator. But the fact that I'm consistently able to get GFE for $80 should be a sign of hope for the bros complaining of having to pay $100+. Maybe some day I'll approach the deals you're getting. Cheers!
I think that if you walks up to a brand new chica for the first time and ask for sex, you may be stuck with a $100 tag. But the prices are far more reasonable if the chica sees you before, interacts with you, talks to you, knows that you're not a threat to her safety, not likely to do weird shit in the room, not run out on her without paying, etc. Girls like to gossip, so you reputation is widely know, good or bad. For example, stick a finger up her ass when she is on stage will result in a +$20 surcharge for arriba from the rest of the girls.
Regarding Thanksgiving. Chica population is about the same. But beware of visiting Thanksgiving as the parking lot will likely raise prices to holiday prices and you will be paying weekend prices on Thursday and Friday. Also beware that the border crossing is going to be horrible starting Friday morning because everyone in Tijuana will cross to get their Black Friday shopping done. Mexicans don't celebrate Thanksgiving, but they celebrate the Black Friday shopping weekend. This was my experience in the past.
Weekend (and Holiday?) Parking rates: $12 for 8 hours at Jack in the Box (I think). $18 for 12 hours at the first parking lot upon exit. $30 per day if exit before 8 am for the parking lot right next to the new border entrance by the shopping center. Again, I cannot stress how bad the traffic is for the Black Friday weekend.
BTW, the weekday parking rates are: $8 for 8 hours at Jack in the Box (I think). $9 for 12 hours at the first parking lot upon exit. $12 per day if exit before 8 am for the parking lot right next to the new border entrance by the shopping center. I'm not sure on the weekday pricing, so someone correct me if this is inaccurate.
Lastly, the use of new or old crossing? On one hand, the processing of refugees is at the old crossing. On the other hand, the new crossing is at the shopping center on a Black Friday weekend. Pick your poison.
SpikeBites1
11-21-18, 19:38
Will Wednesday night before Thanksgiving cause a dropoff in street and club eyecandy options in Zona or not really? Will it be more like a Tuesday. One of slowest days of week with less options I've noticed. I've been all days of week. Just have not been around national holiday timeframe yet.They are having a lingerie contest on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving so I think there will be plenty of girls. I was there yesterday on Tuesday and they were setting up the stage and some lights outdoors. Mexico doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving so most of the girls I visit regularly all will be working during our holiday.
There was a shooting that took place in the downstairs lobby this evening between 1030 and 11:00 PM Wed evening. It happened in the stairwell in the Cascadas hotel entrance in the alley. Police barricaded the scene with caution tape. Looked like small arms fire several bullet holes in lobby staircase leading inside building investigators on scene. If anybody has any intel on injures to the girls outside or any guests please post. I had a cita with a girl who works out of the hotel this past evening. We agreed to meet around that time. She is not answering her phone. I fear the worst please anybody with any info please post here. I did not see any blood or ambulances. So I'm not sure if something happened in the hotel or outside.
There was a shooting that took place in the downstairs lobby this evening between 1030 and 11:00 PM Wed evening. It happened in the stairwell in the Cascadas hotel entrance in the alley. Police barricaded the scene with caution tape. Looked like small arms fire several bullet holes in lobby staircase leading inside building investigators on scene. If anybody has any intel on injures to the girls outside or any guests please post. I had a cita with a girl who works out of the hotel this past evening. We agreed to meet around that time. She is not answering her phone. I fear the worst please anybody with any info please post here. I did not see any blood or ambulances. So I'm not sure if something happened in the hotel or outside.Whoah dude. I was walking thru there several times at 9 pm. But since you didn't see blood nor a chalked body outline, your chica is probably just scared shitless like any normal person would.
Captain Solo
11-23-18, 03:06
Bullet holes in Cascadas' stairwell means they shot at Cascadas' security guy sitting behind the door.
Why would anyone want to shoot that guy? Did he block some one from entering the hotel? If bullets go through that wall, they would go into Las Chevelas, not HK.
La Zona is getting more serious every time. The bros should stay in bed with the sexy chicas or inside HK where it is safe.
CaptJackSparro
11-23-18, 17:28
Seems like this has been a dangerous year for the back alley. Several shootings in the last few months.
Is this typical for the alley to have this many shootings or has this year been bad? I only started reading the board this year so I never knew about any news that didn't happen while I was there.
Also, shootings always seem to happen from 10 pm-12 am.
HorseTrader
11-23-18, 22:52
Also, shootings always seem to happen from 10 pm-12 am.It seems that they are late, but not always. About 2 or 3 years ago it was early evening when I was with a Tropical girl in Hotel Rizo de Oro when there was a shooting in Tropical. I'm sure some of the shootings have been after 12 AM. I'm usually gone by 9:00 PM.
I feel less safe in Zona Norte now than I did a few years ago. I'm not saying anything has changed, it is just a feeling.
It seems that they are late, but not always. About 2 or 3 years ago it was early evening when I was with a Tropical girl in Hotel Rizo de Oro when there was a shooting in Tropical. I'm sure some of the shootings have been after 12 AM. I'm usually gone by 9:00 PM.
I feel less safe in Zona Norte now than I did a few years ago. I'm not saying anything has changed, it is just a feeling.Look at the bright side, when was the last time you heard a monger shot and killed in the Zona Norte?
SpikeBites1
11-28-18, 00:02
One of my girls I frequent at HK messaged me yesterday, Monday saying she was working. But I told her I wasn't going to risk crossing the border and not being able to get back. I asked her it was, and she said it was completely empty. Hardly anyone there and it was dead. Guess this whole border issue is causing a lot of mongers like us to stay avoid the area for the time being. But I do wish I could see her soon. She sent me a photo of herself inside the dressing room inside HK and it made me wish I went down. LOL.
CaptJackSparro
11-28-18, 02:47
It would be interesting to see the collective bargaining power of all the HK regulars who frequent this forum.
Since it is very apparent that the girls are engaging in price fixing by sticking to overpriced $80-100 quotes, while providing the same or worse service than the competition.
I say we correct this problem by not being willing to pay more than $60 tops for a 30 minute session.
Business has been slower than usual with the border situation. The worse it gets the more of a buyer's market it is.
No "but she was so hot I couldn't resist" excuses.
If they can cooperate to make more money, we certainly can cooperate to save it.
Time to bring some machismo back to the Zone.
Who's with me?
AnacondaTp
11-28-18, 03:21
Anyone there at HK right now? Hows the scene? Really want to head down because today is the only day I can go but not sure about the border and safety.
ErosXaphrodite
11-28-18, 04:33
One of my girls I frequent at HK messaged me yesterday, Monday saying she was working. But I told her I wasn't going to risk crossing the border and not being able to get back. I asked her it was, and she said it was completely empty. Hardly anyone there and it was dead. Guess this whole border issue is causing a lot of mongers like us to stay avoid the area for the time being. But I do wish I could see her soon. She sent me a photo of herself inside the dressing room inside HK and it made me wish I went down. LOL.Good. Maybe it will make the ladies and businesses start to appreciate our business more. From what I've been reading the ladies are trying to charge some guys crazy rates and / or give bad service. Unacceptable.
If people aren't going because of the migrants. That's just silly. With all the risks involved with going to the Zona. Rateros, muggings, corrupt cops, shootings. Migrants and possible crossing delays shouldn't really be a deterrent. But I guess some people are easily impressed by media driven noise.
One of my girls I frequent at HK messaged me yesterday, Monday saying she was working. But I told her I wasn't going to risk crossing the border and not being able to get back. I asked her it was, and she said it was completely empty. Hardly anyone there and it was dead. Guess this whole border issue is causing a lot of mongers like us to stay avoid the area for the time being.
Baxter Slade
11-28-18, 17:51
If people aren't going because of the migrants. That's just silly. With all the risks involved with going to the Zona. Rateros, muggings, corrupt cops, shootings. Migrants and possible crossing delays shouldn't really be a deterrent. But I guess some people are easily impressed by media driven noise.Great point Ctytek. However I will say the masses that do stay home make things better for those that still go. No border waits, cheaper taxis and everything. This past Saturday was the smoothest trip ever. Of course if we stayed over Saturday. Sunday would have been a different story. But spending a few extra hours down there is nothing to complain about.
SpikeBites1
11-29-18, 22:11
Went down there last night, Wednesday. It was still fairly empty but not as empty as it was on Monday according to my regular girl. The guy to girl ratio was roughly 3 girls to every guy so there were quite a few girls sitting around looking bored. Saw a bunch of new faces this time that I've never seen before but since I was down there to visit my regular girl I couldn't really take anyone else upstairs haha.
When we left at 1130 pm, I checked the border camera app and it showed it was empty so we decided it was the best time to leave. Getting through the Sentri line took only 5 minutes so seems like things are running more smoothly around. I periodically check the camera app every hour, and 6 pm-9 pm was very busy but 10-midnight was empty, but once 1-2 am came around it got very busy again which was weird.
Captain Solo
11-30-18, 05:22
CTyturd must be a padrote living off his puta's income. He has no idea normal people have to work for their living and have responsibilities in real life.
He does not understand that people are afraid of border closing, delays, getting stuck in Tijuana, missing work and appointments, completely unlike padrotes' free-loading lifestyle.
ScatManDoo
11-30-18, 17:31
If people aren't going because of the migrants. That's just silly. With all the risks involved with going to the Zona. Rateros, muggings, corrupt cops, shootings. Migrants and possible crossing delays shouldn't really be a deterrent. But I guess some people are easily impressed by media driven noise.Let me give you a respectful reply to your comments.
Everything you mentioned is indeed a deterrent. So when more additional deterrents are added on top, the reduction in crowds is noticeable.
Having issues in the news about travelling to Mexico has been going on for decades. I remember there being warnings when I first went with friends to Rosarito in the early 80's, but certainly in this current century there have been more frequent and dire warnings to United States citizens discouraging travel into Mexico. And as a consequence, for many recent years the amount of tourist in Tijuana has dwindled to a trinkle.
Many people feel that they are acting rational in avoiding travel to Mexico, so a reduction in traffic to the San Ysidro border crossing will simply happen in the current (news) climate. My friends expressed concerns for my safety when I became a frequent visitor to LZ in year 2005.
Dcrist0527
12-01-18, 21:14
Let me give you a respectful reply to your comments.
Everything you mentioned is indeed a deterrent. So when more additional deterrents are added on top, the reduction in crowds is noticeable.
Having issues in the news about travelling to Mexico has been going on for decades. I remember there being warnings when I first went with friends to Rosarito in the early 80's, but certainly in this current century there have been more frequent and dire warnings to United States citizens discouraging travel into Mexico. And as a consequence, for many recent years the amount of tourist in Tijuana has dwindled to a trinkle.
Many people feel that they are acting rational in avoiding travel to Mexico, so a reduction in traffic to the San Ysidro border crossing will simply happen in the current (news) climate. My friends expressed concerns for my safety when I became a frequent visitor to LZ in year 2005.I would agree with everything you said. And there is a cumulative effect. That said (& I'm not directing this at you SMD), blaming the media for this is ludicrous. Yes they hype up the hysteria. But on this board, the caravan was once a political invention. Then it was a fox news invention. Then, when reality hit some in the face, it was downplayed as inconsequential. The facts are facts. Roughly 10,000 at a port of entry, willing to charge the border. In fact already having charged Mexico's southern border! I'm sure most have seen the videos of rocks and bottles being thrown. This is not a media game. The media raises awareness. And they do drone out about it ad nauseum. (I am no fan of the media.) But insulting or discrediting legitimate fears is just not in touch with reality.
I'm heading there shortly. I'm far from a seasoned veteran but I am heading there slightly more apprehensive. Funny how those that love to report how serious the violence is in Tijuana earlier this year, downplay the impact of the caravan.
I would agree with everything you said. And there is a cumulative effect. That said (& I'm not directing this at you SMD), blaming the media for this is ludicrous. Yes they hype up the hysteria. But on this board, the caravan was once a political invention. Then it was a fox news invention. Then, when reality hit some in the face, it was downplayed as inconsequential. The facts are facts. Roughly 10,000 at a port of entry, willing to charge the border. In fact already having charged Mexico's southern border! I'm sure most have seen the videos of rocks and bottles being thrown. This is not a media game. The media raises awareness. And they do drone out about it ad nauseum. (I am no fan of the media.) But insulting or discrediting legitimate fears is just not in touch with reality.
I'm heading there shortly. I'm far from a seasoned veteran but I am heading there slightly more apprehensive. Funny how those that love to report how serious the violence is in Tijuana earlier this year, downplay the impact of the caravan.Many of us have reported what we saw first hand as we entered the Zona itself rather than repeat what is reported on Fox. I don't think that we will be able to change your mind of your personal perception of the dangers of the caravan. It is probably best that you put boots on the ground, make a personal visit, make your own observation, and make a post. We made it back despite the threat of the caravan. You should too.
And yes, when I visit the Zona, I have eyes on the back of my head on the lookout for kidnappers and shooters rather than caravan people. The reason is that there was 2000+ murders in Tijuana in the first 10 months of 2018. If the caravan people knocks off 2000 people in the next 10 months, I may change my perception of the threat of the caravan.
So I haven't posted in awhile and forgot my old username password. I have gained a lot of information from this forum (and others) and felt I should give back.
In this post I will reference prior visits since I have been to HK quite a few times but perhaps not as much as San Diego natives (quite jealous by the way).
I was there recently toward the end of November and felt the quality of the girls was pretty subpar compared to other times during the year. I've been several times in the spring and summer this year and the selection (to me, I know everyone has different tastes) was much better. More college type natural looking girls with pretty faces from different parts of the country. Could have been just due to chance but I was also at HK last year in November and felt it was pretty much the same deal. During this trip many of the better looking chicas lived in Tijuana and worked there regularly whereas I hooked up with chicas from guadalajara, sinaloa, etc during summer and spring. My advice would be, if you are planning on making HK a vacation then come in the summer / spring instead of the winter. Many of the girls from southern mexico said they hated the fairly temperate weather of San Diego / Tijuana (this was in the spring) which may explain why there were / are not as many visiting chicas during the winter months.
If you have to come in the winter I would recommend going to the club earlier rather than later. Many girls shifts start at 6-8 PM. This is the absolute best time to come if you can because otherwise many of the better looking girls will be gone. I am pretty picky with my women and because I came in late one night I basically just sat by myself for most of the night because there was absolutely no one I liked.
Dress decently well, smell nice, freshen up your breath. These are all things girls appreciate and will make your experience better. Money is king and can overcome a lot but you will 100% get better service if you put a little effort into your appearance and how you present yourself. Out of the 20 or so girls I sat with I took 12 upstairs and all except 1 girl gave me varying degrees of GFE experience which can be hard to come by in HK. Everyone I took up was easily an 8-10. I have been offered BBFS (no upsell) on multiple occasions and I attribute this, at least partly, to how I present myself and how well I take care of myself. Hell one time I think a girl even wanted me to be her novio for real. Asked me to cum inside of her. Luckily I've been fixed.
This brings me to my next tip. Do not take a girl upstairs no matter how hot she is without getting to know her. I always buy a girl one to two drinks to feel her out. If you are on a budget I understand but you should really just save up more money before going. I think of it as an investment of sorts. Things to watch out for: Does she seem aloof? Does she avoid physical contact like kisses or eye contact? Is she on her phone? This is not an exhaustive list but if a girl seems disinterested don't just ignore it. She may be hot but there are a lot of hot girls out there. Hard pass on any of the things I mentioned. If she doesn't want to go for a drink and only wants to go upstairs this is a huge red flag and you should pass hard.
That is all for now. I will post some more tips later when I have the time. Have fun and stay safe all.
Officially, the girls who work at Zona must have a STD test confirmed by the doctor from time to time. But bareback, even for BJ I do not recommend you can catch something that you will not like. Use good quality condoms (not those from HK and Adelita). For example, "Crown" condoms (used in adult film) are great super strong super thin and sensitive completely like bareback. Can be ordered on line here CondomDepot (very good and fast service) https://www.condomdepot.com/ Also Mexican generic Viagra "Figral" is great. The price for 10 tablets 100 MG is about US $ 7 in the pharmacy "Piri" (near Tijuana arch).I have mongered in SE Asia, at my age a long GFE session is desperately needed for Mr Happy. I even got lucky my last trip and found a girl that could get me to go 4 x / day, kept her a week. But I am cautious of the Mexican hotties, my friends say the girls too often just lay there, and that won't help me much. Does Figral really work? 10 tablets for $7, I guess I will give it a try.
Other questions.
I haven't been to Tijuana in 30 years and then just to party, still the same setup? Last exit off the freeway, park, cross the border, follow the crowd to Ave de Rev? I don't think we ever took taxis 30 years ago, because it was a short walk. Has that changed?
HK Club opens at 10 am, how is it early? Like noon or so? Discounts for a nooner?
What time of day do the freelancers start showing up?
What am I missing? It sounds like the best plan is to horn dog up in HK, then find a freelancer outside.
Any answers will be greatly appreciated.
KC Questor
12-04-18, 02:02
Last exit off the freeway, park, cross the border, follow the crowd to Ave de Rev? I don't think we ever took taxis 30 years ago, because it was a short walk. Has that changed?Please don't try to walk to the Zona from the border. Take a cab or an Uber. $3-$5 will save you a whole lot of time and risk.
Dcrist0527
12-04-18, 03:35
Many of us have reported what we saw first hand as we entered the Zona itself rather than repeat what is reported on Fox. I don't think that we will be able to change your mind of your personal perception of the dangers of the caravan. It is probably best that you put boots on the ground, make a personal visit, make your own observation, and make a post. We made it back despite the threat of the caravan. You should too.
And yes, when I visit the Zona, I have eyes on the back of my head on the lookout for kidnappers and shooters rather than caravan people. The reason is that there was 2000+ murders in Tijuana in the first 10 months of 2018. If the caravan people knocks off 2000 people in the next 10 months, I may change my perception of the threat of the caravan.My boots are on the ground right now, spending several days and nights here in Tijuana. I appreciate your perspective. Before this trip, as I mentioned, I was slightly more apprehensive. Obviously, not enough to stop me. But your point is valid and isn't necessarily in conflict with mine. I believe there are dangerous elements in the caravan. In talking to many chicas here, there are some bad amigos in the group. So I do feel it is reasonable to be even more aware. That said, I don't believe, nor have I ever believed that mongers are targets of the caravan. I do think it does create other vulnerabilities. (Policia having to handle the migrant areas.) So I do think it's wise to be more aware. I've read alot about the relocation that's occurred. But I've had multiple chicas tell me there are numerous sites where they are being housed in centro. I'm staying in centro and haven't seen any sign of a caravan. What I do see is an enormous number of policia driving the streets. Far more than I recall at any time.
My biggest issue with the commentary on this board regarding the caravan (& I'm speaking in general) are the semi-political rants claiming the caravan is imaginary. People like that need to get their boots on the ground or at least get their heads in reality.
Captain Solo
12-04-18, 07:13
To GeneralM.
Entry into Tijuana has changed about 5 years agio. San Ysidro now has 2 entries into Tijuana:
1. PedEast, on the East side of fwy5, behiind the San Ysidro McDonalds. Park in the lot behind Jack in the Box and follow the crowd South behind the McDonalds.
2. PedWest, on the West side of fwy5, South of the Las Americas outlet stores. Park at the old Border Parking Station and walk across the street.
La Zona is at the North end of Ave. Revolucion, 1 block West. PedWest is much closer to walk to La Zona, even 1 block shorter than the old entry next to fwy5.
HK girls will only do 30 minutes; street girls only 20 min. The hotel may be knocking on your door too soon. If you need longer time, it may be better to look among the escorts.
HK, Adelitas, Chicago are now allegedly open 24/7/365. HK would have about 2 dozens girls in the morning, partying, going aribas, but selection is always poorer than at night, and discounts are ususally available. Surprisingly quite a few hot street girls work during the day time near Cascada's back door and Garcia's side door, a few as early as 7 AM, but the best selection is after 8 PM Wednesday to Sunday.
Hot HK girls would likely start with $100, but can usually be talked down to 1,000 pesos (about $55), or $80. They would likely act like high-class princesses, doing you a big favor fucking for your money, and most would just turn into a prickly, expressionless, mute, deaf starfish in bed. They play their seduction games and may turn warmer, friendlier if you go to the clubs regularly and spend money on them for a while. At least 2 of my wingmen went dead broke trying to beftriend bar girls.
Street girls are more down to earth and easier to befriend. You need to speak a few phrases of Spanish and make them feel you are treating them with dignity and compassion perhaps also with lust and love hehe. Some street girls are actually nicer, better-looking and sexier than most club girls, acting hot and horny in bed. I had far more many hot, sexy, satisfying sessions with expressive street girls than bar girls. It's very nice to have girls express their genuine feelings of lust and love in words an din acts. A lot depend on how good your personal skills are.
I have mongered in SE Asia, at my age a long GFE session is desperately needed for Mr Happy. I even got lucky my last trip and found a girl that could get me to go 4 x / day, kept her a week. But I am cautious of the Mexican hotties, my friends say the girls too often just lay there, and that won't help me much. Does Figral really work? 10 tablets for $7, I guess I will give it a try.
Other questions.
I haven't been to Tijuana in 30 years and then just to party, still the same setup? Last exit off the freeway, park, cross the border, follow the crowd to Ave de Rev? I don't think we ever took taxis 30 years ago, because it was a short walk. Has that changed?
HK Club opens at 10 am, how is it early? Like noon or so? Discounts for a nooner?
What time of day do the freelancers start showing up?
What am I missing? It sounds like the best plan is to horn dog up in HK, then find a freelancer outside.
Any answers will be greatly appreciated.
Long Don Silva
12-04-18, 07:54
I have mongered in SE Asia, at my age a long GFE session is desperately needed for Mr Happy. I even got lucky my last trip and found a girl that could get me to go 4 x / day, kept her a week. But I am cautious of the Mexican hotties, my friends say the girls too often just lay there, and that won't help me much. Does Figral really work? 10 tablets for $7, I guess I will give it a try.
Other questions.
I haven't been to Tijuana in 30 years and then just to party, still the same setup? Last exit off the freeway, park, cross the border, follow the crowd to Ave de Rev? I don't think we ever took taxis 30 years ago, because it was a short walk. Has that changed?
HK Club opens at 10 am, how is it early? Like noon or so? Discounts for a nooner?
What time of day do the freelancers start showing up?
What am I missing? It sounds like the best plan is to horn dog up in HK, then find a freelancer outside.
Any answers will be greatly appreciated.Figral really works. It's sildenafil, or generic Viagra. It's the only ED med I've taken but I imagine it's every bit as effective as Viagra. Point of reference. I'm 37 and quite healthy but 15 plus years of porn has taken a toll on me. I can go raw without meds but struggle with a condom. So I take 50 MG about 20 - 30 minutes before arriving and I'm good for three sessions for the night. Depending on your circumstances, you may want to adjust your dosage. But without any heart issues, sounds like 25 MG should be a good start. Some guys are good with half that. I take 50 MG because I plan on three sessions per trip.
Disclaimer. This post does not constitute medical advice.
That is all for now. I will post some more tips later when I have the time. Have fun and stay safe all.Additional tips:
1. If staying for more than 2 nights get a VIP card. You get a free drink and half price lap dance. Also 20% off rooms Wed-Sunday and 80% off Monday and Tuesday.
2. Do not recommend Friday and Saturday. It is super crowded and while there are more girls working I have noticed that many of the girls are the same as those who also work Sunday. Thursday. They are just all there together on Friday and Saturday. Higher guy to girl ratio. I prefer any other day to be honest. A lot of people can only reasonably go on Friday and Saturday so it's understandable though.
3. You will likely and some point be offered to buy a bucket of beers to take upstairs with your girl. Hard pass on this. The girls never finish the beers and they are wasted for the most part.
4. Many girls will only drink beer but I have found the freakier girls to drink hard liquor. Your mileage may vary.
5. Food is a good way to keep a girl at your table longer and feel her out. This works best later in the night when they are actually hungry. I would not buy food early in the night since many girls eat before coming into the club at 6-8. Let her pick. The best girls I've had have fed me. Your mileage may vary as this is optional for them and a GFE type of thing. See my previous post to see how to get the best GFE you can (if that is what you are looking for).
More to come later as I have time.
Please don't try to walk to the Zona from the border. Take a cab or an Uber. $3-$5 will save you a whole lot of time and risk.If the sun is up, theres no problem walking. Sunday and Friday of last week I walked PedWest to Zona no problems. Monday I walked PedEast to Plaza Rio, then to Zona Norte and crossed back PedWest (walking on the US side back over near KFC).
At night, the new bridge which is right in front of El Chaparral (Pedwest) is always safe but stay east side of Revo to Coahulia. I have walked it1-4 times a week for the last 2-3 years. Now, the Tijuana river pedestrian-only bridge is a whole different ballgame. I had an attempted mugging there at 2 am (attempted because I threw the first punch taking the deportee out of the fight, and the 2nd guy was 80 pounds junior my size, 140 rarely beats 220) but that was my fault for being there at 2 am and having my phone out in my hand.
However, yes, with Uber being about $1.60 (35 pesos) I would say its a good choice.
I might need to start doing more research. I am mid-40's and don't need it for the first pop but lack of interest makes round 2 hard. (Pun intended). So I dabbled in Figral from the pharma across from the Wax Museum. It did nothing for staying "up" for round 2, but gave me a headache and a flushed face / heat flash. Second time I tried it just made me throw up 30 -60 minutes later as I walked back into the US. I want to say I tried 50 MG and was on a relatively empty stomach. No beer or other meds.
Figral really works. It's sildenafil, or generic Viagra. It's the only ED med I've taken but I imagine it's every bit as effective as Viagra. Point of reference. I'm 37 and quite healthy but 15 plus years of porn has taken a toll on me. I can go raw without meds but struggle with a condom. So I take 50 MG about 20 - 30 minutes before arriving and I'm good for three sessions for the night. Depending on your circumstances, you may want to adjust your dosage. But without any heart issues, sounds like 25 MG should be a good start. Some guys are good with half that. I take 50 MG because I plan on three sessions per trip.
Disclaimer. This post does not constitute medical advice.
RikyMichaels7
12-05-18, 05:37
I might need to start doing more research. I am mid-40's and don't need it for the first pop but lack of interest makes round 2 hard. (Pun intended). So I dabbled in Figral from the pharma across from the Wax Museum. It did nothing for staying "up" for round 2, but gave me a headache and a flushed face / heat flash. Second time I tried it just made me throw up 30 -60 minutes later as I walked back into the US. I want to say I tried 50 MG and was on a relatively empty stomach. No beer or other meds.I am 64 years old and need assistance by taking Viagra. I have tried almost every generic Viagra available in Tijuana. Figral does nothing for me. The absolute best generic is a brand called Bullenza. Available only from Farmacia Similares. Believe me, buy the 100 MG and cut in half. You will not believe the results! Cost is 4. 00 for a box of 4. Second best is a chewable generic available at Sanborns. Can't remember the name but box is white. Pills are white.
OneInTheDugOut
12-05-18, 15:58
This is embarrassing and wasn't going to say anything, but wonder if this is common. Took a girl to the lap dance room Last week on my trip. She Hangs out by the stairs / hot tub area. Really thick with bad heavy eye makeup. Not overly hot, but she was what was available and she got rather touchy for $1.
Anyways in the lap dance room she started giving me a HJ. I was a fan so I decided to go for another round. After the first song of round two she stopped and started demanding more money because of "cumming. " She started acting like I was disgusting saying "you did, you did?" Looking at her hand. Problem is it didn't happen. Natural stuff was going on after 10 minutes of rubbing but far from finishing. But I'm not paying $50 for a non finished HJ. She insisted and I just headed for the door instead of fighting it. Got in a cab and went to the border.
Any chance I'll have a problem in the future due to some false allegations and no extra payment?
Dcrist0527
12-05-18, 20:05
So, I went to HK Sunday night. The best thing that night was the foam show. It was busier than I expected but nice vibe, good ratio. I just finished with a Musas after a long flight and went to HK to just unwind.
Monday night I go and again, relatively busy. Walking around on the prowl and a nice looking girl catches my eye with her smile. A couple gropes, $2 later, I move on. But something about that smile brought me back. Long story short, I'm not sure if she robbed me blind or if it was the time of my life. LOL I think I'll post a separate review on the girl. Or I might keep her to myself. A definite diamond in the rough!!
I'm curious though. What do you consider being played? Honestly, despite spending WAY more than I planned, this girl was everything we search for. I bought the first drink and then the mesero game started. To her credit, she shooed them away. Many times, she told them her bottle is still full. We spent about 2 hours talking, kissing, fondling. Truth be told, the mileage was fairly low but it was just a great experience. After 2 hours, I'm nearly out of cash and then we start talking arriba. Mind you, I'm staying at Ticuan but I'm really loving the arriba idea. So we agree on price for one hour. I run back to Ticuan for more money She does not believe I'll come back. When I walked back in about 10 minutes later, there she was waiting where I left her. Shocked and seemingly happy to see me. Arriba was phenomenal. Spent a full hour up there. Ignored the knocks for some time beyond the hour. So she asks, should we go back to HK? Back to HK for one more tequila. And one more. Six hours later, I'm broke again. Haha. She gives me her number. Texts me the next morning and wants to meet up. That doesn't work out but she says come see me at HK. So back I go Tuesday night for "one tequila". Four hours later, I'm hoping to have enough for a taxi.
So, in the view of the minds on this board, did I fall for the ficha game? I really do not believe it was. For every drink I bought her, she'd chase away 3 or 4 meseros. And the food meseros. She was not slamming the drinks. And for roughly 10 hours, I probably bought 12 or 15 drinks (for both her and me). And perhaps, most importantly, it was an awesome experience for many reasons. Thoughts?
Inside her pussy, a stick was poking outside, sharper than chopsticks, deeper inside, wrapped up w / tam or cottons.
Easily get hurt with banging.
I don't know where you've been, but my very first session (back in October 2004) was with an Adelitas chica that tried to hide the fact that she was on her period.
I was new and paid up front.
I was fucking her for just a minute or two when I realized something didn't feel right. I looked down and saw RED all over my business. She apologized, and then quickly dressed and left me alone to clean myself up.
And I have read at least a dozen other reports of menstruating chicas trying to still work.
ScatManDoo
12-05-18, 21:48
This is embarrassing and wasn't going to say anything, but wonder if this is common. Took a girl to the lap dance room Last week on my trip. She Hangs out by the stairs / hot tub area. Really thick with bad heavy eye makeup. Not overly hot, but she was what was available and she got rather touchy for $1.
Anyways in the lap dance room she started giving me a HJ. I was a fan so I decided to go for another round. After the first song of round two she stopped and started demanding more money because of "cumming. " She started acting like I was disgusting saying "you did, you did?" Looking at her hand. Problem is it didn't happen. Natural stuff was going on after 10 minutes of rubbing but far from finishing. But I'm not paying $50 for a non finished HJ. She insisted and I just headed for the door instead of fighting it. Got in a cab and went to the border.
Any chance I'll have a problem in the future due to some false allegations and no extra payment?You will if that elephant has an elephant-like memory.
Just kidding, you will probably be OK in future trips to HK even though it appears like you failed to tip a chica anything after a double lap dance.
My suggestion is that if she ever does approach you in the future, it might de-escalate and even resolve the situation by tipping her 100 or 200 pesos ($5-$10 equivalent).
Am I correctly understanding your post in that you would have gladly given her a $50 payment if the hand job resulted in you cumming?
This is embarrassing and wasn't going to say anything, but wonder if this is common. Took a girl to the lap dance room Last week on my trip. She Hangs out by the stairs / hot tub area. Really thick with bad heavy eye makeup. Not overly hot, but she was what was available and she got rather touchy for $1.
Anyways in the lap dance room she started giving me a HJ. I was a fan so I decided to go for another round. After the first song of round two she stopped and started demanding more money because of "cumming. " She started acting like I was disgusting saying "you did, you did?" Looking at her hand. Problem is it didn't happen. Natural stuff was going on after 10 minutes of rubbing but far from finishing. But I'm not paying $50 for a non finished HJ. She insisted and I just headed for the door instead of fighting it. Got in a cab and went to the border.
Any chance I'll have a problem in the future due to some false allegations and no extra payment?Don't worry, I don't think she can give HJ or BJ in the lap dance booth. This is probably illegal. She may have a problem with the manager for what she does not you. The booth is only for private lap dancing, touching and groping.
I am 64 years old and need assistance by taking Viagra. I have tried almost every generic Viagra available in Tijuana. Figral does nothing for me. The absolute best generic is a brand called Bullenza. Available only from Farmacia Similares. Believe me, buy the 100 MG and cut in half. You will not believe the results! Cost is 4. 00 for a box of 4. Second best is a chewable generic available at Sanborns. Can't remember the name but box is white. Pills are white.Thanks for the information "Bullenza" it sounds good, I'll check it out next time.
MongerHunger
12-05-18, 23:30
Don't worry, I don't think she can give HJ or BJ in the lap dance booth. This is probably illegal. She may have a problem with the manager for what she does not you. The booth is only for private lap dancing, touching and groping.So it's illegal to get a HJ in a private dance booth but you can finger bang a chica, lick her pussy and suck her tits on a stage during the cream show that's in the open public for everyone to see?
Something about that doesn't seem right. Who told you that?
Are you just guessing?
No one is the "target" of the caravan. They are mostly just a bunch of poor peasants from Honduras, who want nothing more than to make it across the US border. If I was unlucky enough to be in their shoes. I'd probably be in that caravan myself, desperately trying to find a better life for myself and my family. The continuous fear mongering about the caravan is annoying.
It's fine to be cautious and be aware of what's going on, but let's stick to the facts on the ground. No one is saying "caravan is non existent". What I have been saying is. The caravan is a nuisance but hardly a threat. With all the things that can go badly wrong in the Zona. I am talking shooting, muggings, police extortion, and more. Poor migrants are right there at the very bottom of the list of things I am worried about. That is all.
My boots are on the ground right now, spending several days and nights here in Tijuana. I appreciate your perspective. Before this trip, as I mentioned, I was slightly more apprehensive. Obviously, not enough to stop me. But your point is valid and isn't necessarily in conflict with mine. I believe there are dangerous elements in the caravan. In talking to many chicas here, there are some bad amigos in the group. So I do feel it is reasonable to be even more aware. That said, I don't believe, nor have I ever believed that mongers are targets of the caravan. I do think it does create other vulnerabilities. (Policia having to handle the migrant areas.) So I do think it's wise to be more aware. I've read alot about the relocation that's occurred. But I've had multiple chicas tell me there are numerous sites where they are being housed in centro. I'm staying in centro and haven't seen any sign of a caravan. What I do see is an enormous number of policia driving the streets. Far more than I recall at any time.
My biggest issue with the commentary on this board regarding the caravan (& I'm speaking in general) are the semi-political rants claiming the caravan is imaginary. People like that need to get their boots on the ground or at least get their heads in reality.
ClamSlammer
12-06-18, 01:15
I'm curious though. What do you consider being played? Texts me the next morning and wants to meet up. That doesn't work out but she says come see me at HK...So, in the view of the minds on this board, did I fall for the ficha game? I really do not believe it was. For every drink I bought her, she'd chase away 3 or 4 meseros. And the food meseros. She was not slamming the drinks. And for roughly 10 hours, I probably bought 12 or 15 drinks (for both her and me). And perhaps, most importantly, it was an awesome experience for many reasons. Thoughts?I don't think you were being played. The average puta downs a ficha in about 10 minutes. The worst ones start waving down meseros as soon as they finish one to order another. If she only drank about 7 drinks in 10 hours and actually shoo'd away meseros then she wasn't playing the ficha game. And also if she texted you in the morning and wanted to meet up before HK, that is an extremely good sign. It's the chicas that say "quiero verte" (I want to see you) only while they're working and never on their day off are the ones that are just trying to hustle drinks.
ClamSlammer
12-06-18, 01:19
Any chance I'll have a problem in the future due to some false allegations and no extra payment?As a 10 year HK vet I'd say you have nothing to worry about. If she let you walk out without causing a scene she's going to just let it go. Just avoid her in the future and don't try approaching her for any reason.
No, if she was playing you she would have been sucking the drinks down fast. You got lucky and found a chica who enjoys your company as much as you did hers.
So, I went to HK Sunday night. The best thing that night was the foam show. It was busier than I expected but nice vibe, good ratio. I just finished with a Musas after a long flight and went to HK to just unwind.
Monday night I go and again, relatively busy. Walking around on the prowl and a nice looking girl catches my eye with her smile. A couple gropes, $2 later, I move on. But something about that smile brought me back. Long story short, I'm not sure if she robbed me blind or if it was the time of my life. LOL I think I'll post a separate review on the girl. Or I might keep her to myself. A definite diamond in the rough!!
I'm curious though. What do you consider being played? Honestly, despite spending WAY more than I planned, this girl was everything we search for. I bought the first drink and then the mesero game started. To her credit, she shooed them away. Many times, she told them her bottle is still full. We spent about 2 hours talking, kissing, fondling. Truth be told, the mileage was fairly low but it was just a great experience. After 2 hours, I'm nearly out of cash and then we start talking arriba.
Aviator400
12-06-18, 01:53
So, I went to HK Sunday night. The best thing that night was the foam show. It was busier than I expected but nice vibe, good ratio. I just finished with a Musas after a long flight and went to HK to just unwind.
Monday night I go and again, relatively busy. Walking around on the prowl and a nice looking girl catches my eye with her smile. A couple gropes, $2 later, I move on. But something about that smile brought me back. Long story short, I'm not sure if she robbed me blind or if it was the time of my life. LOL I think I'll post a separate review on the girl. Or I might keep her to myself. A definite diamond in the rough!!
I'm curious though. What do you consider being played? Honestly, despite spending WAY more than I planned, this girl was everything we search for. I bought the first drink and then the mesero game started. To her credit, she shooed them away. Many times, she told them her bottle is still full. We spent about 2 hours talking, kissing, fondling. Truth be told, the mileage was fairly low but it was just a great experience. After 2 hours, I'm nearly out of cash and then we start talking arriba. Mind you, I'm staying at Ticuan but I'm really loving the arriba idea. So we agree on price for one hour. I run back to Ticuan for more money She does not believe I'll come back. When I walked back in about 10 minutes later, there she was waiting where I left her. Shocked and seemingly happy to see me. Arriba was phenomenal. Spent a full hour up there. Ignored the knocks for some time beyond the hour. So she asks, should we go back to HK? Back to HK for one more tequila. And one more. Six hours later, I'm broke again. Haha. She gives me her number. Texts me the next morning and wants to meet up. That doesn't work out but she says come see me at HK. So back I go Tuesday night for "one tequila". Four hours later, I'm hoping to have enough for a taxi.
So, in the view of the minds on this board, did I fall for the ficha game? I really do not believe it was. For every drink I bought her, she'd chase away 3 or 4 meseros. And the food meseros. She was not slamming the drinks. And for roughly 10 hours, I probably bought 12 or 15 drinks (for both her and me). And perhaps, most importantly, it was an awesome experience for many reasons. Thoughts?Most of the girls consider drinking slowly if they down one every 15 minutes. Sounds like you did just fine. Indeed, better than most. Some girls have it down to 5 minutes each. (Of course they don't last long in my booth.).
ED and Viagra usage is related to arterial blockage, I've read. Guys with clean veins don't have ED unless there is a psych issue. Suggest you stop eating fatty meat (hamburgers and fried food) and start a regimen of pycnogenol and supplements etc to clean your arteries. When an artery is completely blocked with fat and calcium, you can expect a stroke or heart attack, IMO. Your ED problem is the warning sign things are getting gunked up inside you.
I think these meds have diminishing returns after years of use. I used to take them and they would last for two days when they were supposed to last two hours. Not any longer. Unfortunately I have to skip the day before because by the time I get to HK for example it's second half of the day, I'm tired, I do better in the morning. And yes side effects are normal, my eyes get bloodshot and on regular dates woman will always comment about the instantly blood shot eyes.
So it's illegal to get a HJ in a private dance booth but you can finger bang a chica, lick her pussy and suck her tits on a stage during the cream show that's in the open public for everyone to see?
Something about that doesn't seem right. Who told you that?
Are you just guessing?It looks like it is illegal. I asked a girl in a lap dance booth in (Miami section) in Hong Kong club about HJ or BJ a few times and answer is always I can't do it here. Try yourself, ask about HJ or BJ in the booth. That's why the girl did not ask the manager for help in case of $ 50 Mr "OneInTheDugOut" because she knows that she may have a problem for that. These are the regulations of the local Tijuana health department. Sexual intercourse, BJ, HJ etc. only in a hotel room with a janitor cleaning the later used condoms with sperm with a mop with disinfectant liquid (mostly Fabuloso). Cream show is just a cream show it's not a sexual intercourse with used condoms and sperm. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the situation looks like this.
OneInTheDugOut
12-06-18, 07:12
You will if that elephant has an elephant-like memory.
Just kidding, you will probably be OK in future trips to HK even though it appears like you failed to tip a chica anything after a double lap dance.
My suggestion is that if she ever does approach you in the future, it might de-escalate and even resolve the situation by tipping her 100 or 200 pesos ($5-$10 equivalent).
Am I correctly understanding your post in that you would have gladly given her a $50 payment if the hand job resulted in you cumming?Nothing was agreed upon or even discussed. She was grinding me and Undid my belt because the belt buckle was poking her. She later started the HJ over my pants. I threw a $10 bill to her and made eye contact then unbuttoned, then she just did it. Next thing you know she was claiming I was cumming on her hands because some things were flowing and saying she needed $50. I would not have asked her for a $50 HJ, street girls were hotter and would be cheaper. I was just in the lap dance because I had a free lap dance coupon from Twitter. After a good first free session, got dumb and went for a paid second.
It looks like it is illegal. These are the regulations of the local Tijuana health department. Sexual intercourse, BJ, HJ etc. only in a hotel room with a janitor cleaning the later used condoms with sperm with a mop with disinfectant liquid. Health department + The brothel HK; you can't be serious. Depending on the girl and money, anything goes in the lap dance booth. There are several people, including I that have had sex in the VIP rooms. Not only there, but in TB, BG, and other clubs. No hotel room with a janitor cleaning whatsoever.
The Tijuana health department is nonexistent in the Zona Norte.
Captain Solo
12-06-18, 10:23
To Dugout,
HK chicas have been getting nasty lately. You did the right thing to quickly leave the dispute. That's the best way to deal with HK's trouble makers.
You don't have to worry about future visits since she has no witness or evidence. Most likely she will not be working or remember who you are.
MongerHunger
12-06-18, 10:25
Sexual intercourse, BJ, HJ etc. only in a hotel room with a janitor cleaning the later used condoms with sperm with a mop with disinfectant liquid (mostly Fabuloso). Cream show is just a cream show it's not a sexual intercourse with used condoms and sperm. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the situation looks like this.A HJ is not sexual intercourse and a person does not have to have a climax from a HJ. Licking pussy on an open stage is considered oral sex. It is sex by definition, the same as a BJ and it's done in the open in plain sight. Fingers are touching and entering genitals just like a HJ that touches genitals. Oral sex and touching / fingering genitals are done in the open but you're saying it's illegal to do the same type of things (oral sex, touching genitals) in the booth. Your argument has holes in it.
CaptJackSparro
12-06-18, 18:59
Wonder if business has been slow lately because of the border situation and chicas are taking their stress out on customers.
I've noticed a decline in crowds and HK feels dead lately, even on the weekends its not as crazy packed.
Even taxis have been complaining to me about how local businesses are getting hurt because of the caravan.
To Dugout,
HK chicas have been getting nasty lately. You did the right thing to quickly leave the dispute. That's the best way to deal with HK's trouble makers.
You don't have to worry about future visits since she has no witness or evidence. Most likely she will not be working or remember who you are.
So, I went to HK Sunday night. The best thing that night was the foam show. It was busier than I expected but nice vibe, good ratio. I just finished with a Musas after a long flight and went to HK to just unwind.
Monday night I go and again, relatively busy. Walking around on the prowl and a nice looking girl catches my eye with her smile. A couple gropes, $2 later, I move on. But something about that smile brought me back. Long story short, I'm not sure if she robbed me blind or if it was the time of my life. LOL I think I'll post a separate review on the girl. Or I might keep her to myself. A definite diamond in the rough!!
I'm curious though. What do you consider being played? Honestly, despite spending WAY more than I planned, this girl was everything we search for. I bought the first drink and then the mesero game started. To her credit, she shooed them away. Many times, she told them her bottle is still full. We spent about 2 hours talking, kissing, fondling. Truth be told, the mileage was fairly low but it was just a great experience. After 2 hours, I'm nearly out of cash and then we start talking arriba. Mind you, I'm staying at Ticuan but I'm really loving the arriba idea. So we agree on price for one hour. I run back to Ticuan for more money She does not believe I'll come back. When I walked back in about 10 minutes later, there she was waiting where I left her. Shocked and seemingly happy to see me. Arriba was phenomenal.You had the time of your life, but she emptied your pockets. Were you played? It kind of depends, what was the damage for all this? But either way it sounds like you had an epic night, the kind of night that you go to Tijuana for. You both got what you wanted out of it.
Health department + The brothel HK; you can't be serious. Depending on the girl and money, anything goes in the lap dance booth. There are several people, including I that have had sex in the VIP rooms. Not only there, but in TB, BG, and other clubs. No hotel room with a janitor cleaning whatsoever.
The Tijuana health department is nonexistent in the Zona Norte.Regulation of legal prostitution business in Tijuana was in 2005. Since then girls have new health cards (electronic with magnetic strip) and notice (in the case of a Hong Kong hotel) girl gets a compulsory condom, the room is clean, the room has a new sheet, a new towel and a small soap. After you're done with the girl, the janitor waits outside for $ 1 a tip. He, the janitor cleans the room, removes the used condoms and mops the floor with the disinfectant. Hong Kong hotel does not do it because it loves customers so much but because it is the requirements of the Tijuana department of health. So, your statement Hong Kong hotel does not comply with the regulations of the health department and that there are no janitors, is not reliable. Link article from 2005 "Tijuana imposes prostitution regulation" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9358631/ns/world_news-americas/t/tijuana-imposes-prostitution-regulations/#. XAlhr2 hKg2 x.
A HJ is not sexual intercourse and a person does not have to have a climax from a HJ. Licking pussy on an open stage is considered oral sex. It is sex by definition, the same as a BJ and it's done in the open in plain sight. Fingers are touching and entering genitals just like a HJ that touches genitals. Oral sex and touching / fingering genitals are done in the open but you're saying it's illegal to do the same type of things (oral sex, touching genitals) in the booth. Your argument has holes in it.He, he this is confusing. You and I do not decide what and where is legal in HK. The management has its own rules. Don't worry if you do something wrong then security will tell you immediately. If you do not like it and disagree with security, you are immediately escorted to the outside of the club on the street.
Scudrucker
12-07-18, 00:41
I am not sure of the no sex policy. It just may not be the girls policy. I have been offered a BJ a few of times in the private rooms. The thing is she can get a half hour break from the bar and make $80 and maybe tip instead of $40 and no chance for upstairs if you finish. I also should mention that the offers were on weekends when she took a quick turnaround to be back for more business.
I now decline the offer as that's too rushed for me. The half price dance you get each day with vip is a great way to see if she warms up for an arriba.
Hope this helps.
I miss the zone everyday.
Scudrucker.
MongerHunger
12-07-18, 00:42
He, he this is confusing. You and I do not decide what and where is legal in HK. The management has its own rules. Don't worry if you do something wrong then security will tell you immediately. If you do not like it and disagree with security, you are immediately escorted to the outside of the club on the street.Security doesn't bother me in HK for whatever I do and I will continue to do the same things that I have been doing in HK. Oral sex, finger banging chicas, BJ's and HJ's in the booth, fondling, groping, sucking tits and all that fun shit. Security gives less than a damn. They are present during all these activities.
KC Questor
12-07-18, 01:09
I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules". I don't think anyone will argue that it is literally against the law.
"Illegal" is not the same as "not allowed".
I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules". I don't think anyone will argue that it is literally against the law.
"Illegal" is not the same as "not allowed".Technically, sex is not allowed on the same premises as the bar. Baja (probably other states as well) has anti-brothel laws. That's why you have to exit the bar, onto a public street, and then go into a hotel. They are theoretically different businesses. It's all lip service, but there it is.
So, is a HJ in a privado illegal? A BJ under the table? Probably, yes. Does it happen? Again, yes. I don't thing groping and licking boobs counts as sex, or every strip club in Tijuana would get closed down. But obviously the laws aren't strictly enforced, and in Mexico money talks. So, who knows? In any case, it would be the girl who got into trouble if caught, never the business, unlike here.
And he is wrong on that count as well. Anything goes in private dance and VIP rooms. If sexual activities weren't allowed there. HK security and meseros would enforce those rules. But they don't.
I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules"
MongerHunger
12-07-18, 06:06
Technically, sex is not allowed on the same premises as the bar. Baja (probably other states as well) has anti-brothel laws. That's why you have to exit the bar, onto a public street, and then go into a hotel. They are theoretically different businesses. It's all lip service, but there it is.
So, is a HJ in a privado illegal? A BJ under the table? Probably, yes. Does it happen? Again, yes. I don't thing groping and licking boobs counts as sex, or every strip club in Tijuana would get closed down. But obviously the laws aren't strictly enforced, and in Mexico money talks. So, who knows? In any case, it would be the girl who got into trouble if caught, never the business, unlike here.Sir,
You may have a point there. These types of establishments find loop holes and circumvent the law. Most of these policies are overlooked. If indeed it is illegal then I stand corrected but obviously it does not stop the activities going on in the club and on the surface it is A-OK.
Muncher8888
12-07-18, 17:56
If the sun is up, theres no problem walking.Bearbare,
Props on the info and map.
Appreciate it.
As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.
Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.
CaptJackSparro
12-08-18, 04:42
Tell the girls who open cab doors at the border to F off. Seriously. You didn't ask for them to open your door, so don't feel bad.
Think about how many cabs drop people off at this spot per day. Hundreds. Easily. They are such scam artists.
Many beggars at the border do it full-time. If you pay attention, the same ones are there day after day because they are making more money than any 'respectable' job in Tijuana will pay. Why break your back in a factory for $5-10 per day when you can make that in an hour putting your hand out to gullible tourists?
Instead of opening cab doors those girls should be in school or bettering themselves somehow instead of ripping off tourists. But they have no incentive to when they can make a great living by Tijuana standards opening cab doors. These girls have been known to pickpocket.
Don't encourage this behavior by giving them money.
The average low skill laborer in Tijuana is making $5-20 per day. These girls are making more than that in an hour. Don't reward the harassment of tourists for money with a very comfortable living.
Bearbare,
Props on the info and map.
Appreciate it.
As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.
Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.
Bearbare,
Props on the info and map.
Appreciate it.
As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.
Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.At the border, this is a well-organized beggars corporation business. They even have a boss and women with small children are strategically placed along the sidewalk 24/7. Girls who open the taxi doors are too young to work in Zona and I always joke with them. If you give a tip then do not give more than 25 cents.
Tididyekim
12-09-18, 03:05
I've been lurking on these forums for a few months now and never really thought to post any of my experiences. Since I took a recent trip to Hong Kong just yesterday, I thought it would be a great opportunity give back to the community. Now, I wouldn't consider myself a veteran monger, but I've had my fair share of strange State side, in Tijuana, and in the Philippines. Being that I'm 33 years old and single, I feel as though I still have a lot of mongering left to do. Well, at least up until I meet someone.
It's been about two years since I've visited Tijuana and I'm honestly surprised at how much things have changed since then. Back then, I felt as if the quality of the girls were better at Adelitas during my last visit, but that certainly wasn't the case this time around. I got across the PedWest border around 9:30 and was approached by a guy in a suit asking me if I wanted a free ride to Hong Kong. My first thought was "hey what a nice guy", but then it dawned on me that he might be leading me somewhere to get robbed LOL. Everything was cool though. He lead me a couple blocks down the road where they had their car ready and took me to Hong Kong. There's always this feeling of excitement whenever I walk into these places. Getting a general view of the quality of the girls and knowing that you would be able to fuck most of them is a great feeling. Sometimes I can't help but smile and giggle internally like a young boy in a toy store. I wanted to get a better look at all of the girls so I made my way to the back entrance and then up the stairs. Decided to stay there since there was a cream / soap show going on.
I sat down and I was greeted by this small framed Latina named Catalina. To be honest, I wasn't really interested since I just arrived, but I did want a bit of company to unwind and have someone to talk to. Offered to buy her a drink / ficha and she agreed obviously. Turns out, she was a really cool chick. She was 22 years old and was really friendly. Though I think she was trying to play the ficha game because she was downing those drinks pretty quickly and one of her co workers came up to eat some of the food I bought for her. She said that I was handsome and was surprised when I told her that I was 33 because she guessed that I was 27. Even went on to say that I was boyfriend material during our conversation, which part of me thought was BS because you know, she's a working girl. After she finished her drink and the meal I bought her, She gave me her whatapp, but I never followed up with her after. Total damage was an appetizer, 2 drinks for her, and about 4 beers for me in that short period of time. LOL.
After we parted ways, I made my way back to the main stage closer to the entrance and tipped a few girls on the stages. There was one in particular that I really liked so I came up to her and gave her 3 dollars to get her attention, but she wasn't having it for some reason. I'm not sure what that was about. Maybe she had a dude waiting on her or she just doesn't like shaved headed Asians LOL. This is when I found my girl for the night. I can't for the life of me remember what her name was, but she was pretty one. She said that she was 28, but I think she was a lot older than that because you could see the lines on the side of her eye's pretty well. Admittedly something about her eyes had me captivated so I stuck it out with her. She wasn't really into the conversation and she was on her phone a bit, but I didn't care. I honestly just wanted her around and look into her eyes and admire her physic. After stuffing a bunch of dollars into her clothing and conversating, one of the meseros told me to come with him to another area. My initial thought was "I don't want to pay for some bullshit" LOL. I think they took us to VIP lounge area, because it wasn't crowded at all and we had this ass big couch to ourselves. We didn't stay long though. I wanted to get down to business already since I was getting drunk.
We made our way up to the hotel room and she started to undress and take her heels off. I was kind of thrown off because she was so tiny, but had a huge ass. I didn't really notice these things while we were in the club because when I approached her, she was sitting down and I didn't really pay attention to her heels. I would say she stood about 4'11 and had a big, BIG butt for her size. So big, it kind of looked awkward when she was standing. Though it did look amazing while I had her from behind because it made her waist look tiny and it felt really nice while I was grabbing it. She started with a CBJ and then she got on top of me. Did that for a bit and then switched to doggy, but she wanted to be on top again. She said "no eres chino". I laughed and said "Mirame mis ojos. Soy chino". She then pointed to my face and said "Si es chino", then pointed to my penis and said "No es chino, Es Mexicano"(I'm half Mexican). I laughed. We finished up and she asked the guys outside to get her some soap so she could wash off. It's a nice thing to see a woman just casually showering herself. Very sexy and appealing. The clean up crew started to knock on the door a few times. I didn't answer them though. I just yelled through the door and said she's showering. She finished up at this point and we made our back back downstairs. She gave me a hug and she was off again to find another john.
If I had to rate my experience this time around, I'the put it at a 9/10 for sure. This was my first time going solo so I was a bit nervous about it, but everything turned out great. I even took a taxi to Tacos El Franc at 2:30 in the morning by myself and didn't have any issues while I was there. Everyone I met was really friendly, except for the one girl on the stage that I mentioned. Damage to the wallet wasn't too bad either. Total amount spent was about $350 for everything, including gas to get down there and back. I'm already contemplating going again next week. LOL.
Oh crap. I forgot to mention. I did a lap around the building to see the street girls and didn't find any of them attractive. Sure, they might cost you less, but it doesn't seem worth it to me when you can fuck some really pretty girls in Hong Kong. Stopped by Adelitas for a minute and the girls were kinda busted in my opinion. They just didn't compare to the girls at Hong Kong. Maybe all of the hot ones were already upstairs. Who knows.
MongerHunger
12-09-18, 07:52
Security doesn't bother me in HK for whatever I do and I will continue to do the same things that I have been doing in HK. Oral sex, finger banging chicas, BJ's and HJ's in the booth, fondling, groping, sucking tits and all that fun shit. Security gives less than a damn. They are present during all these activities.Or should I say Security is in the vicinity during activities not looking over my shoulder. LOL. Correction.
Thanks for the write up. Learned a lot as I am going on Saturday and had gone back and forth between Adelitas and Hong Kong.
What kind of prices were you seeing for arriba, and were the meseros all over you to buy drinks?
I've been lurking on these forums for a few months now and never really thought to post any of my experiences. Since I took a recent trip to Hong Kong just yesterday, I thought it would be a great opportunity give back to the community. Now, I wouldn't consider myself a veteran monger, but I've had my fair share of strange State side, in Tijuana, and in the Philippines. Being that I'm 33 years old and single, I feel as though I still have a lot of mongering left to do. Well, at least up until I meet someone.
It's been about two years since I've visited Tijuana and I'm honestly surprised at how much things have changed since then. Back then, I felt as if the quality of the girls were better at Adelitas during my last visit, but that certainly wasn't the case this time around. I got across the PedWest border around 9:30 and was approached by a guy in a suit asking me if I wanted a free ride to Hong Kong. My first thought was "hey what a nice guy", but then it dawned on me that he might be leading me somewhere to get robbed LOL. Everything was cool though.
Tididyekim
12-10-18, 04:45
What kind of prices were you seeing for arriba, and were the meseros all over you to buy drinks?The meseros were all over me for sure, but I didn't feel like they were overly pushy. There was one incident when I was with the first girl. One of her co workers came to our area to eat the appetizer I had bought for her and the mesesro tried asking the second girl to see if she wanted anything. I shook my head and told him "nah nah nah nah. I'm going to go broke if I buy every girl a drink". I'm not sure if he understood me, but I'm sure he got the message.
Here's a break down of costs from what I can remember that night. The girl I took up quickly asked for 100. I gave her a look like (What the heck?) she tried for 90, but I still gave her a look of disappointment. She said 80 and I agreed. I think next time I'll try finding the perfect girl first and then butter her up with fichas. Hopefully she'll give me a lower rate in the end.
Entry + Heineken= $10.00.
Tecate= $4.00.
Heineken= $5.00.
Ficha mixed drink + Tacate = $15.00.
Ficha small beer + Tacate= I think it was like $14.00. I couldn't have been cheaper, I forgot TBH.
Appetizer= I can't remember exactly. It was somewhere in between $7 or $10.
Arriba= $80.00.
Damnit, I want to go again.
ClamSlammer
12-10-18, 23:23
You got people that are pure trash with their hand out everywhere in Tijuana, especially the Zona and the border. I never give anybody anything. Honestly, and quite literally, I'd rather flush my money down the toilet than hand it over to them. One time I was waiting in the motorist line waiting to cross back. Up ahead I see a guy with a giant swollen elephant leg. For some weird reason I happened to be in a good, generous mood. So I start digging in my pocket for a buck or two. One of the cart vendors sees me and somehow knows that I intend to give Elephant Leg a buck. He yells over to Elephant Leg and he comes over to my car, starts knocking on my window, and demands I hand over some money. Needless to say, I ignored him.
Worse still are children begging for money. Most of them are controlled by a handler who takes away all the money they get. And by giving these kids money you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor. You're encouraging them to stay on the streets instead of going to school.
The worst is the adults that intentionally bring kids begging. These POS are putting innocent children in harms way in order to gain sympathy from passersby to gain a few pesos. Many of the toddlers are drugged to make them more controllable. There's this one guy who used to bring a baby into the zona late at night. He would always be shocked when I would ignore his pleas for money. He would keep on saying "I have a baby!" but I didn't give a fuck I'm not contributing towards that baby being in the Zona late at night.
Scudrucker
12-11-18, 00:10
The meseros were all over me for sure, but I didn't feel like they were overly pushy. There was one incident when I was with the first girl. One of her co workers came to our area to eat the appetizer I had bought for her and the mesesro tried asking the second girl to see if she wanted anything. I shook my head and told him "nah nah nah nah. I'm going to go broke if I buy every girl a drink". I'm not sure if he understood me, but I'm sure he got the message.
Here's a break down of costs from what I can remember that night. The girl I took up quickly asked for 100. I gave her a look like (What the heck?) she tried for 90, but I still gave her a look of disappointment. She said 80 and I agreed. I think next time I'll try finding the perfect girl first and then butter her up with fichas. Hopefully she'll give me a lower rate in the end.
Entry + Heineken= $10.00.
Tecate= $4.00.
Heineken= $5.00..You bought you and her a drink, you tipped the mesero. I have had them hover like flies trying an appetizer, don't forget a visit from the basket guy too. Sometimes the mesero has to waive others off. Look him in the eye and say "I need some time with my girl to get to know her. Excuse us here. " Sometimes the meseros can be great but you must control the game.
Always tip but know when to tell them to take a walk. Don't worry, they will be back to lift her drink at the half way mark. Again just say "good for now". This is more of a hint to the girl to drink faster. As soon as you walk thru that curtain the game has begun but how you control it will decide the time you have.
And man I miss the game.
Scudrucker.
The line up was pretty good. There were a lot of girls I'the never seen before in addition to the regulars. The girls seemed livelier than they usually are. I met an old spinner dancing on the bar, 26 yo but was youthful, short, and cute like a spinner. Nothing voluptuous, just a cute girl with a smile. I tipped her and she gave me a nice smile and a big smooch for it, tipped her again and she did the same. I was feeling good vibes from her and decided to try her for a drink. Pretty good idea, by the 2nd one it was a DFK fest. Lots of necking and stuff. Every once in a while you stumble across a girl that gives you a true GFE and this was one of them. No rush or upsell, didn't even arriba once. I've been down on the service at HK lately but this was a great find.
Muncher8888
12-11-18, 18:57
Had room for night at HK.
Had girl I knew I wanted. And she wanted me. (OK guys just a little humor there.) But seriously we get along well as on my previous visit I had strictly talked to her. I approach her, we talk briefly, I make an offer that I know I will not budge from (60) and didn't even have to. She gave no bullshit counter or anything. She is down. No haggling, let's just enjoy was our mutual vibe.
So we are literally about to stand up and go to the room and one of the staff comes over and tries hawking the VIP room. I show him wrist band and say "No thanks, room. " he keeps trying. Very pushy. I. mean. Tries. Really. Hard. Doesn't let up. Next tries to get her involved. So I wonder do he and she work together on some commission bullshit? Her body language is like she is not digging his VIP push either, the guy (me) just offered the room.
Anyway we had to literally get up and walk away from babbling VIP dance pusher.
WTF is up with these guys? Any thoughts from you vets on what to do, other then what I did?
Continued props to you vets, particularly Captain Solo has been fantastic.
Summer before last, there was a couple who begged with their toddler in tow in the Alley. He would ask me every time for money. Finally one day I said to him, "Look, by the time I've walked to the Alley, I have had at least 10-15 people ask for money. I'm out of charity by this point. You got to move close to the border cross. ". I said this 2 maybe 3 times and it seems they stopped begging in the Alley at least. I see the father often but less often the mother.
I give Daniel money out front of La Gloria because we joke about that YouTube / Vine video "Dammmmmmmmn, Daniel! Still rocking the white Vans!
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You got people that are pure trash with their hand out everywhere in Tijuana, especially the Zona and the border. I never give anybody anything. Honestly, and quite literally, I'd rather flush my money down the toilet than hand it over to them. One time I was waiting in the motorist line waiting to cross back. Up ahead I see a guy with a giant swollen elephant leg. For some weird reason I happened to be in a good, generous mood. So I start digging in my pocket for a buck or two. One of the cart vendors sees me and somehow knows that I intend to give Elephant Leg a buck. He yells over to Elephant Leg and he comes over to my car, starts knocking on my window, and demands I hand over some money. Needless to say, I ignored him.
Worse still are children begging for money. Most of them are controlled by a handler who takes away all the money they get. And by giving these kids money you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor. You're encouraging them to stay on the streets instead of going to school.
The worst is the adults that intentionally bring kids begging. These POS are putting innocent children in harms way in order to gain sympathy from passersby to gain a few pesos. Many of the toddlers are drugged to make them more controllable. There's this one guy who used to bring a baby into the zona late at night. He would always be shocked when I would ignore his pleas for money. He would keep on saying "I have a baby!" but I didn't give a fuck I'm not contributing towards that baby being in the Zona late at night..
The line up was pretty good. There were a lot of girls I'the never seen before in addition to the regulars. The girls seemed livelier than they usually are. I met an old spinner dancing on the bar, 26 yo but was youthful, short, and cute like a spinner. Nothing voluptuous, just a cute girl with a smile. I tipped her and she gave me a nice smile and a big smooch for it, tipped her again and she did the same. I was feeling good vibes from her and decided to try her for a drink. Pretty good idea, by the 2nd one it was a DFK fest. Lots of necking and stuff. Every once in a while you stumble across a girl that gives you a true GFE and this was one of them. No rush or upsell, didn't even arriba once. I've been down on the service at HK lately but this was a great find.Enjoy it while it lasts. It happens every year. Many new girls start working in Nov for holiday money. After next week, they will return home for Christmas and you won't see them again.
Member #4722
12-12-18, 05:21
Enjoy it while it lasts. It happens every year. Many new girls start working in Nov for holiday money. After next week, they will return home for Christmas and you won't see them again.Had my all time best Hong Kong session right around Christmas last year (the night before Christmas Eve, my first time in Hong Kong) . Amazing girl but never saw her again. Unfortunately that was the only great session I ever had there and pretty much gave up taking girls out of HK altogether a few months later. I am sure you can find some gems this time of year though!
DramaFree11
12-12-18, 14:03
Had room for night at HK.
Had girl I knew I wanted. And she wanted me. (OK guys just a little humor there.) But seriously we get along well as on my previous visit I had strictly talked to her. I approach her, we talk briefly, I make an offer that I know I will not budge from (60) and didn't even have to. She gave no bullshit counter or anything. She is down. No haggling, let's just enjoy was our mutual vibe.
So we are literally about to stand up and go to the room and one of the staff comes over and tries hawking the VIP room. I show him wrist band and say "No thanks, room. " he keeps trying. Very pushy. I. mean. Tries. Really. Hard. Doesn't let up. Next tries to get her involved. So I wonder do he and she work together on some commission bullshit? Her body language is like she is not digging his VIP push either, the guy (me) just offered the room.
Anyway we had to literally get up and walk away from babbling VIP dance pusher.
WTF is up with these guys? Any thoughts from you vets on what to do, other then what I did?
Continued props to you vets, particularly Captain Solo has been fantastic.I was there Saturday, they only bothered me briefly. If you go upstairs and order directly from the bar you will not have any issues. Also, if you want to just talk and drink with the girls take her to the Restaurant. You will save big money and they are not on the clock there. I do it all the time. I tip the bartenders, guys at the front desk, and the guys at the Rest. I do not mess with the waiters, no need. Ever since I started doing this my experience in H. K, has improved dramatically.
I'm going Fri 21, coming back Sat 22. Here's my plan:
Print the Boarder Pick-up and Buy One, Get One Free Drink coupons.
Drive to Boarder Station Parking and leave my SUV there. Bring $1000 cash, backpack, and tourist wallet across the boarder into Tijuana. Is that too much cash? Do I need a hidden tourist wallet? How do I schedule the pick-up at the boarder or does the cab accept the coupon? Do I stop by a pharmacy and pick up Viagra just in case? If so, do I declare at the boarder if I have some left over?
Purchase the $50 VIP Hong Kong card at Customer Service.
Get a room at hotel Rizzo de Oro (does my VIP Card get me discounts there too? Or just Cascada? I hear Rizzo de Oro is quieter). Go to Hong Kong for a drink, dances, and bring back a hottie. Shower. Eat. Go see if a streetwalker is appealing, bring her back. Shower and sleep. Wake, eat breakfast, pick up another hottie (streetwalker or Hong Kong girl). Shower. Eat. Massage parlor any recommendation for happy ending? Pack. Have a Hong Kong chauffeur take me back to the boarder. Walk across. Back in my car headed back to OC.
Did I miss anything? Recommend I do something different?
VermontDrums
12-12-18, 23:18
What is the action like at Hong Kong during the day? I know it's packed during most night, but someone told they open at 11 AM. Is it a bit of a wasteland during the day or is it still worth while say 12 PM - 6 PM?
Muncher8888
12-13-18, 02:29
If you go upstairs and order directly from the bar you will not have any issues. Also, if you want to just talk and drink with the girls take her to the Restaurant. You will save big money and they are not on the clock there. I do it all the time. I tip the bartenders, guys at the front desk, and the guys at the Rest. I do not mess with the waiters, no need. Ever since I started doing this my experience in H. K, has improved dramatically.Will do thank you. Am told that walking up to bar perhaps also results in one getting the brand tequila they ordered. Vs them pouring in a lesser version and assuming you will never know? Seems like that happened my second trip. No way that shit was the brand I ordered. 1st time down was good shit, must have really been what I ordered.
Restaurant absolutely will do. Thanks again. OK to just drink at the restaurant?
Tipping. Does the guy that hands her the temporary coat really need a tip? Shezzus. Is a buck enough? I gave him three after he did the New York cab driver thing (no change) with my $5.
Seems like there are many different conversations and confusion about the inner workings of Hong Kong. First and most importantly HK is a Clip Joint Fridays and Saturday's. Those who have been around Tijuana and culture and I do mean Tijuana culture because it is a different and separate animal from Mexican culture already understand this about HK on the weekends. Tijuana is bastardization of American and Mexican culture do the influence and proximity to the United States. That being said there is a reliance and a natural tendency to take advantage of Gringos because Mexico is a class based system so those who have money power or influence in the country readily take advantage of the people and citizenry, the Mexican Government is a prime example of that. So being that you are a foreigner in a strange land they will try to exploit that to their advantage because that is what is being done to them on a daily basis. The majority of people who work in the Mexican service industry are seen as the low rung of society and are exploited by the Mexican elite, including the girls who work in the clubs and stand on the corners in the Zona. All the girls have is their looks to get by on so they use what they got to get what they want. Sure they may be sweet and cute but they truly do not like or respect you when you break it all down and I'm sure most of the mongers feel the same way about them. So yes the waiters, the cab drivers, the bathroom attendant will pray upon your ass at every turn just because you are American and seen as an easy mark. When dealing in the Zona show no fear if somebody is being aggressive girl waiter, cop, or whoever stand your ground and don't be a pushover. Showing weakness in this culture is a death sentence. I guarantee the more masculine you act the better your experience will be with girls and the staff. HK may have a lot going for itself because it has next to zero competition as far as it overall offerings are concerned, but it is lacking in customer service. Being shady and not pouring what you ordered is a big no no in terms of customer service. One way to combat this is by tasting what you ordered and politely but firmly tell them you want what you ordered or will not pay. Ask for the bottle to be brought to the table and poured in front of you, if he refuses get another waiter who will comply. If your goal is to drink top self all night like a boss then tipping a waiter $20.00 upfront to be your personal attendant will show them you are not messing around and are to be taken serious when it comes to your beverages / women. I guarantee they will not F-with you from that point on. The idea is to act arrogant but not rude if you do this I guarantee nobody will try to jerk you around.
As far as daytime goes yes there is a different shift of girls who work the streets and clubs. Personally I prefer daytime hours and off peak days. If night time is your only option Thursday night is probably your best bet in terms of quality and a more relaxed environment. There is never a shortage of girls in the zona. Yes the selection will not be as great as peak days but I guarantee you will find one who will tickle your fancy. The advantage of daytime is you avoiding the headaches of being taken advantage of by overzealous waiters, girls, and staff. Another advantage of daytime is the girls are a lot more relaxed and more rapport can be built. This is key because all women even working girls respond to the same shit. If you establish some basic rapport with them you will have a better experience. Compliment them on their eyes or hair, jewelry, tattoos even though you could really give a shit less trust me Mexican girls love that shit they eat it up and will reward you for the compliments for it upstairs. Never stay overnight in Cascadas or any other hotels in the Zona. Too much noise to get meaningful sleep and not very secure. If you must stay in a hotel in the zona to kill time between sessions and need to freshen up I recommend Hotel Diaz it has clean rooms and showers and a promo for 4 hours for like $250.00 Pesos it's just south of the arches in the zona. One advantage is you can sometimes get street girls who are willing to walk over with you for sessions there. IF you want a nicer hotel Caesars hotel is your best bet in terms of price, quality and location. It is chica friendly so if you need to order out for service you will not have any issues. AIRBNB is a great alternative as well in Tijuana. Never carry any more the $100.00 cash on you at one time. I urge you to pay in pesos if possible. Should be enough for at least one session for a top tiered club girl or 4 street girls. Use the ATM"s at Sorriana Market near the Dominoes pizza on Revolucion or the Caliente casino a couple blocks south they are open late and are secure never had any issues with card fraud. If you never been to the zona I suggest you walk around during the day and do your recon. It is relatively a lot more safe during the day and you will have a lay of the land once night hits and are either too buzzed or tired to try to navigate at night. Once night falls Ubers or taxis are the only safe and reliable way to leave the zona. VIP card not really worth it unless you go multiple times per week. To me the cost does not justify the additional benefits for non frequent flyers. Waiters will hate on customers because they get jealous that girls they have crushes on are fucking other dudes or the girls will flirt with them and think they are into them when they are just hustling them to gain some benefit. Girls in these clubs are ruthless due to competition among other girls. The waiters can and do fuck with the girls money if they are rebuffed or feel slighted or girls will fuck other waiters or staff to get the other girls jealous so that is the nasty reality behind all the fake asses, tits, hair, and make up. This lifestyle is not all that glamorous to work in anybody in the adult entertainment industry can attest to this. So all in all the zona is a very fun and dangerous place to be a part of. Most of this is not new to seasoned vets but just wanted to give my insights to the new guys who are just starting out. Have fun out there and be safe. Also there is a lot more Tijuana has to offer besides the zona. I urge people to venture out during the day. Plaza Rio is a great place for civie action lots of hot young girls out shopping during the day.
JohnDough650
12-13-18, 10:16
So here's the plan guys. I'm going to Tijuana sometime in early February for a three day stay, first things first I want to get chicas like as many as I can, I'm thinking about two BGs a day and about 3 or 4 SGs aday for a total of around 12 to fifteen on this three day run I know its a hard task but I believe I'm up for the challenge haha. But on top of that I also want to experience the city this includes going out to eat a fancy meal once or twice a day eating at cafes going to at least a few different bars and also want to try going to the casino and also head to the cultural center downtown as well as at least one sobreruedas maybe playas as well, I know its a lot of things to do but I really want to experience the city in my short stay there. The plan is to head to Tijuana park at pepes parking courtesy of hk go to hk get VIP card head next door to cascades book one night cash pay in pesos and get receipt do the same thing the next morning. Was planning on arriving Monday to take advantage of 80 percent discount on Mondays Tuesday at cascades bringing the total for lodging at about 20 bucks per night the first two nights plus about 60 for third day on top of the 800 or so pesos for the VIP card should be around 150 ish for lodging but I want some opinions on how much everything else would cost and how much money I should bring I forgot to mention I also want to allow about 100 bucks a day towards spending money in the club just for grabbing as many asses and tits as I can also would probably buy every bar girl I take upstairs about one or two lady drinks before going arriba just to get them loosened up. Would love it if you guys could give me you rough estimates on what the damage might be on all this fun. Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
Also have a few questions since I've only been a few times. Where do the Bgs head after their shifts are over to unwind is there a specific club or bar they frequent?
Is it true that I shouldn't tip the bartenders because they don't get to keep their tipped money?
Last time I was there I was fortunate enough to catch and participate in the foam show was wondering what time these are scheduled for?
Also was wondering where the best place to exchange my money was I've gotten conflicting reports some say on the us side before crossing over others say atms in mexico give the best rates so not sure? Any other fun things I should check out to experience the city to the fullest? Again thanks to the more experienced mongers for there input and suggestions.
DrMcNaughty
12-13-18, 13:04
Necking. Huh? I think the last time I heard that it was out of my moms mouth. She's 83. Necking hahaha.
The line up was pretty good. There were a lot of girls I'the never seen before in addition to the regulars. The girls seemed livelier than they usually are. I met an old spinner dancing on the bar, 26 yo but was youthful, short, and cute like a spinner. Nothing voluptuous, just a cute girl with a smile. I tipped her and she gave me a nice smile and a big smooch for it, tipped her again and she did the same. I was feeling good vibes from her and decided to try her for a drink. Pretty good idea, by the 2nd one it was a DFK fest. Lots of necking and stuff. Every once in a while you stumble across a girl that gives you a true GFE and this was one of them. No rush or upsell, didn't even arriba once. I've been down on the service at HK lately but this was a great find.
MongerHunger
12-13-18, 17:58
I'm going Fri 21, coming back Sat 22. Here's my plan:
Print the Boarder Pick-up and Buy One, Get One Free Drink coupons.
Drive to Boarder Station Parking and leave my SUV there. Bring $1000 cash, backpack, and tourist wallet across the boarder into Tijuana. Is that too much cash? Do I need a hidden tourist wallet? How do I schedule the pick-up at the boarder or does the cab accept the coupon? Do I stop by a pharmacy and pick up Viagra just in case? If so, do I declare at the boarder if I have some left over?
Purchase the $50 VIP Hong Kong card at Customer Service.
Get a room at hotel Rizzo de Oro (does my VIP Card get me discounts there too? Or just Cascada? I hear Rizzo de Oro is quieter). Go to Hong Kong for a drink, dances, and bring back a hottie. Shower. Eat. Go see if a streetwalker is appealing, bring her back. Shower and sleep. Wake, eat breakfast, pick up another hottie (streetwalker or Hong Kong girl). Shower. Eat. Massage parlor any recommendation for happy ending? Pack. Have a Hong Kong chauffeur take me back to the boarder. Walk across. Back in my car headed back to OC.
Did I miss anything? Recommend I do something different?If you're only staying from a Friday to Saturday (24 hours) why on earth would you take $1000 USD with you? My goodness man! Talking about overkill. You may need some serious budget counseling.
Necking. Huh? I think the last time I heard that it was out of my moms mouth. She's 83. Necking hahaha.Yeah that was a bit gushy I know LOL. But I like what I like. That's how long it's been for me to find a girl that wasn't an upsell robot in HK.
Tipping. Does the guy that hands her the temporary coat really need a tip? Shezzus. Is a buck enough? I gave him three after he did the New York cab driver thing (no change) with my $5.Why you gave him $3? One dollar is enough for the robe guy! Shezzus.
Captain Solo
12-14-18, 03:38
To Totalgrip,
You only stay 1 night. If you want to maximize the fun, you should stay at Cascada, much nicer and more convenient than Rizzo for the roughly same price. Most HK girls and street girls prefer the convenience of Cascda would likely be reluctant to walk across the street for sessions in Rizzo.
For 1 night, $80 for room, $200 for 2 HK girls, $70 for 2 street girls, $40 for 8 beers, $80 for 8 fichas, $50 for girls' tips, $40 for food, $10 for taxis, total about $600, that if you can screw 4 girls in 24 hours. Some girls are so hot I bagged the same girl twice within 2 hours, having raging hard ONS, blew big loads and still wanting more hehe. So you may need the extra $400 for 4 more HK girls hehe.
Unless you plan to use the VIP card for Cascada's 80% room discount on Mon and Tuesday and plan to use it again a few more times, it won't pay for itself. Just book the room online and claim a 20% internet discount, and use coupons for free drinks.
Print out a few free drink and free appetizer coupons. You never know if you will find a girl so sweet and pretty you want to order Azul's food just so you can snuggle close to her, kissing her lips, inhaling her fragrance, feel her up while she eats. HK has new rules, giving VIPs' free parking and hotel discounts but no more free drinks coupons for well-known VIPs. Since you are new, the front desk won't know you are a VIP, so you can get vouchers for all your coupons first, then buy your VIP card for hotel discount and free drinks later.
I would not waste time and risk expose my ass to crime on the street waiting for HK's limousine / van pickup, unless you find 1 driving by and can flag it down. If you arrive in La Zona before 6 PM, Farmacia Piri across the Wax Museum would be still open. You can tell the taxi / uber driver to stop of Museo de Cera and run in the get a few generic 100 MG Sildenafil pill for about 40 cents a piece. Give the driver $1 tip for his wait. If you arrive late you should stick to the bar block and forget about walking around looking for farmacias, exposing your ass to robbers. Just buy a pill from HK's restroom attendant for $10 or have a mesero buy 1 for you.
Early in the morning there are a few very attractive street girls near Cascada's back door. Mermaids Massage, across from HK, has 4 to 6 girls all willing to do FS in the room, but they are only average-looking and their total room fee plus FS tips are usually higher for their theoretical 1-hour service than hot HK girls in Cascada.
You only have 1 night. You should spend most of your time in HK and take time to get to know the girls in Hk and in the alley. Take them to hotel Cascada for hot, sexy time between eating, drinking, hanging out in the club for entertainment.
On the way back HK's limousine can take you back to the border quickly. Tell the driver Ped East or Ped West.
SaguaroJack
12-14-18, 06:02
If you're only staying from a Friday to Saturday (24 hours) why on earth would you take $1000 USD with you? My goodness man! Talking about overkill. You may need some serious budget counseling.I blew through that in 24 hours but I also had sex with 6 different girls. Yeah it was a bit too wild but I was trying to push the envelope. I wouldn't recommend going that hard. It just feels way too excessive.
ClamSlammer
12-14-18, 08:07
So here's the plan guys. I'm going to Tijuana sometime in early February for a three day stay, first things first I want to get chicas like as many as I can, I'm thinking about two BGs a day and about 3 or 4 SGs aday for a total of around 12 to fifteen on this three day run I know its a hard task but I believe I'm up for the challenge haha. But on top of that I also want to experience the city this includes going out to eat a fancy meal once or twice a day eating at cafes going to at least a few different bars and also want to try going to the casino and also head to the cultural center downtown as well as at least one sobreruedas maybe playas as well, I know its a lot of things to do but I really want to experience the city in my short stay there. The plan is to head to Tijuana park at pepes parking courtesy of hk go to hk get VIP card head next door to cascades book one night cash pay in pesos and get receipt do the same thing the next morning. Was planning on arriving Monday to take advantage of 80 percent discount on Mondays Tuesday at cascades bringing the total for lodging at about 20 bucks per night the first two nights plus about 60 for third day on top of the 800 or so pesos for the VIP card should be around 150 ish for lodging but I want some opinions on how much everything else would cost and how much money I should bring I forgot to mention I also want to allow about 100 bucks a day towards spending money in the club just for grabbing as many asses and tits as I can also would probably buy every bar girl I take upstairs about one or two lady drinks before going arriba just to get them loosened up..On Mon-Weds most HK chicas will go up for $60-$80. Each ficha will cost you $10 with tip. SG's typically go up for $10-$20 for quick, basic service. La Malquerida is where BG's go to drink after their shifts. It's on the other end of the alley as HK. I've never heard that bartenders don't get to keep their tips. But I suggest you tip them on a case-by-case basis. If you get good, friendly service, leave $1. If you don't, well don't leave a tip. The foam show goes on all the time. You're bound to catch a handful of shows each night. The exchanges on USA Side give better rates than exchanges in Mexico if you want to buy pesos. ABC exchange usually offers the best rates. ATM's in Mexico offer the best rates but you have to factor in the ATM's fees too, both by your bank and the ATM owner. The ATM fees vary wildly, some as low as $15 mx and others as high as $85 mx. So it's not worth it if you withdraw small amounts because you'll get killed by the ATM fees. But if you withdraw let's say $8000 mx the ATM fees will be offset by the more favorable exchange rate so you'll come out ahead.
Long Don Silva
12-14-18, 10:09
If you're only staying from a Friday to Saturday (24 hours) why on earth would you take $1000 USD with you? My goodness man! Talking about overkill. You may need some serious budget counseling.Because the mesero in that HK video from earlier this year told him to. What was his name again?
ClamSlammer
12-14-18, 10:56
Why you gave him $3? One dollar is enough for the robe guy! Shezzus.If he gave the robe guy $5, and the robe guy didn't have change, then he ended up giving him the full $5 and not $3 correct?
Captain Solo
12-14-18, 17:54
To Long Dong.
If HK meseros sense newbies walking in the club, they will take them to a table near Pista Norte and SELLS them an exclusive table for the low price of only $200, including 1 bucket of 10 Tecates, unlimited viewing hot strippers on stage, and of course their own personal, exclusive mesero, who would bring a girl to the table every 5 minutes, and urge them to buy her ficha drinks.
My new wingman fell in their trap in his first visit, spending $500 on an exclusive table and ficha drinks for various girls, then ran out of money to take a girl upstairs hehe. Next time he went with me, he got coupons for free drinks on the house. We just grabbed the same table to watch strippers all night for free and shoo away the annoying meseros, an all night grand, fun, sexy experience in a premium strip club for free hehe.
Guys should learn how to say "NO" to all messros' pressure sales tactics. Just shake your head to decline their offers, or tell the girls "Sorry, I am busy, Disculpa, estoy ocupado. " A few familiar meseros would bring me the prettiest new girls. I usually tip the girls a $1 propina into their boobs before kissing and turning them away. Some of those young girls were totally nice, fresh, sweet, beautiful. I regretted that I did not have all the time, money and libido to get to know all of them.
The peddlers with their baskets do have girls' favorite spicy snacks for $2 a bag, only $1 if the girls pay with their own money. They also sell small bags of beef jerky topped with red pepper sauce for $5. It's my favorite spicy snack to wash down with cold beers while watching the show, but it will cost you many beers hehe.
Of course avoid guys who sell expensive long-stem roses and stuffed animals. The girls would just resell them back to the same guys with a steep discount. Have not seen too many flower sellers in the club for a while.
Because the mesero in that HK video from earlier this year told him to. What was his name again?
Are there any safe neighborhoods in SD in walking distance to a trolley where one can leave a car overnight for free? $24 for a weekend border parking is freaking outrageous.
Scudrucker
12-14-18, 18:42
I agree with Captain Solo's remarks. I have a 1000 on me every time I go. This is not the time for walking and Viagra. Get your cash separated on your person privately and hop a cab to your hotel. After the border just get a cab for 5 dollars. I would not be waiting around for a limo but that's just my opinion. Once you are settled then make a plan.
I also have no problem staying at Cascadas found the place clean. Ask for an upper floor such as 6, 7, 8. Remember the elevator only goes to 6 but nothing wrong with holding a girls hand or arm as you traverse the hotel.
Security is also evident at both entrances but I prefer to keep my wristband in my pocket for display. Do not need to be any more of a mark.
Lastly, I used to stay at the tiquan on other end of revolution but the convenience of Cascadas and the room service and not needing a taxi after a session is good for me.
Azuls has great pizza, if interested.
Not too sure on that Amtrak statement. A tourist going to another country with poor credit card reputation should have some cash. Canada is easy to visit but you may be asked to prove you can afford to travel and sustain yourself for the trip. Mexico should not be surprised by cash. I avoid credit card use at all cost in Mexico. Maybe bad luck but always had trouble like double swiping.
I also use the bank machines at the two banks on constitution in the daytime of course. There is usually security and its busy and works all the time with my Canadian cards.
Scudrucker.
A 1000 cash across the border? That's insane. Even in USA on Amtrak anything over 300 DEA will take from you and accuse you if running drugs. Make you sue them in court to get the money back. I see it in the trains all the time. That's in USA. If you need more money just go back to USA next day walk over border to ATM walk back into Mexico.Please do yourself a favor and seek help.
Please do the rest of us a favor and go peddle your unfiltered, unpasteurized bullshit elsewhere.
LovesToSploog
12-14-18, 20:03
If you want to get treated like a gringo pay like one. TG you should open up a Charles Schwab free checking account, it's obviously free, no minimum balance, no foreign transaction fees, and they reimburse your ATM fees, no matter the fee, with that being said, use pesos to pay for service and everything else there and dollars to tip the girls in the club. I wouldn't carry around that much cash, but you are good, according to the border regulations you can't cross with over $5,000 without declaring it. Glad to see you are finally venturing away from the Grannys from the AMP in OC, if you need help PM me.
A 1000 cash across the border? That's insane. Even in USA on Amtrak anything over 300 DEA will take from you and accuse you if running drugs. Make you sue them in court to get the money back. I see it in the trains all the time. That's in USA. If you need more money just go back to USA next day walk over border to ATM walk back into Mexico.
FRobertson
12-14-18, 20:17
If you want to get treated like a gringo pay like one. TG you should open up a Charles Schwab free checking account, it's obviously free, no minimum balance, no foreign transaction fees, and they reimburse your ATM fees, no matter the fee, with that being said, use pesos to pay for service and everything else there and dollars to tip the girls in the club. I wouldn't carry around that much cash, but you are good, according to the border regulations you can't cross with over $5,000 without declaring it. Glad to see you are finally venturing away from the Grannys from the AMP in OC, if you need help PM me.Best part about Charles Schwab is their ATM withdrawal limits can be changed pretty much on the fly. For example, arriving in Mexico, you could call them to authorize international ATM withdrawals, raise the limit to say $2 k, withdraw what you need. With them on the phone! - and then lock down the ATM limit again.
LovesToSploog
12-14-18, 20:26
I understand, I've heard of people who blow through whole paychecks, it seems TG has plan for this for a while so go hog wild. I'the recommend getting an escort if you are willing to use all that money up. It's a better experience, though I haven't gotten one in Tijuana, you get that BBBJ, DFK, GFE experience for almost the same price as a chicka in HK plus it's usualy per hour.
My strategy for HK is get a street girl first then head to the club and sometimes you'll be satisfied and sometimes right away you see a nice soft big butt, pretty face, and big breast and all of a sudden you are ready for another pump. Anyways enjoy yourself and be safe.
I blew through that in 24 hours but I also had sex with 6 different girls. Yeah it was a bit too wild but I was trying to push the envelope. I wouldn't recommend going that hard. It just feels way too excessive.
Ghenghis Khan
12-14-18, 23:25
Had a GFE with 24 yo girl named Pamela from Mexico City at HK on a Tuesday night, she was about a 7-8. She has fake assess and titties. I'd say she is a "YMMV" type of girl. Was out hunting for 9's and 10's but she came quite aggressively onto me. Bought her a ficha and we arriba'd after awhile of getting to know her. She was about to get off trabajo and wanted to stay the night at my room. I asked her if she was married or had hijos, and she answered no. More than likely to be bullshit because she clearly had see-sections on her lower belly. Anyways, we DFK'd and I sucked on her clits for awhile, then she gave me BBBJ, and I fucked her BB while she was moaning throughout the act. She wanted me to cum on her face, but I was on medications for ADHD and I had a hard time ejaculating. Then we headed out to AB and drunk some beers till we got buzzed. She was singing and dancing and we just enjoyed being in each other's presence. We came back to my room and crashed. She had her arms wrapped around me, snored like a pig nearly the whole night, and hogged up all my bedspace. Woke up the next morning and I fucked her again till I busted my whole load inside of her missionary. She wasn't very happy with that. LOL. Then she goes back to her room at Rio and we go our separate ways. It was a different experience, but it was enjoyable while it lasted.
MongerHunger
12-15-18, 02:24
Please do yourself a favor and seek help.
Please do the rest of us a favor and go peddle your unfiltered, unpasteurized bullshit elsewhere.Yep. I concur +1.
Are there any safe neighborhoods in SD in walking distance to a trolley where one can leave a car overnight for free? $24 for a weekend border parking is freaking outrageous.I always park on the trolley parking in Chula Vista along Interstate - 5. It's free 24 hours. But you must use a trolley. For example, trolley stations: E Street, H Street, Palomar Street. , Palm Ave, Beyer Blvd. I don't know all the stations, but E Street. And Palomar Street have a large parking. If you park on H Street you can after visiting Zona visit the famous "Tacos El Gordo" is open to 2 AM everyday and Friday, Saturday to 4 AM (it is right next to the parking). Last trolley from San Ysidro 1258 AM and next after 430 AM.
Are there any safe neighborhoods in SD in walking distance to a trolley where one can leave a car overnight for free? $24 for a weekend border parking is freaking outrageous.Don't know the level of security at the trolley lots. I DO know that the lots at the shopping / cinema plaza on H boasts the highest rate of stolen cars in the USA Close to the freeway, minutes from the border. There's an internet list of the most stolen cars in Mexico, mostly from what I'm told models in current use as taxis. Best pay a few bucks to keep your sled in a closed lot.
Captain Solo
12-15-18, 18:19
To Sploog.
It's true TG has been for years trying to come up with excuses to get out of the ball and chain and have a night of pure hot sex without strings attached. This time he will go hog wild for a night in Tijuana. If not careful, anyone can blow more than $1,000 a night in HK. The devious meseros will show them how to have some naughty fun hehe. 2 of my wingmen went dead broke buying fichas and giving loans to HK chicas.
Single guys should never even think of marrying militant US women with their #METOO movement. They should fill their needs for female company and sex in Tijuana. Then they would have strength and leverage to deal with US women and have a few live-in girl friends who cannot put hooks into their brains.
Scudrucker
12-15-18, 18:39
I have always watched my money and save what I can for the chicas. I spend $20 a day / night on ones for the gropes / chats or whatever, I have gone for the half price lapdance, and spent on many fichas for the girls; however I have never opted for the private room with the bucket of mini-beers. I would like to hear some stories of private rooms, if the meseros leave you alone or are they knocking.
Waste of money or should everyone try it once. Last time there some guys that were flashing money and being rude as girls went up and down the stairs from the Miami room.
There was some cannabis around but when they lit up the were told promptly that it was not allowed.
The girl that told me offered me the joint as she said she did not smoke it.
I know there are some other VIP areas just wondering what you can buy. It could be fun to overspend one night maybe 2 girls?
Sr.
Dcrist0527
12-16-18, 04:17
... however I have never opted for the private room with the bucket of mini-beers. I would like to hear some stories of private rooms, if the meseros leave you alone or are they knocking.
Waste of money or should everyone try it once.I posted last week about my last visit, wondering if I was played by the ficha game. Appreciate the responses. Everyone agreed I wasn't played. I agree. Just a unique experience. With that same girl, a mesero was selling me hard on the private room. She's tapping me under the table and mouthing "No". After I sent him away, she explained that it was a rip-off. They'll hound you after a short while, not getting 30 minutes. She said let's just hang out here. Again, she could have hosed me and didn't.
I suppose that with the right girl, that might be a reasonable expense. I have been tempted but have never pulled the trigger.
...Single guys should never even think of marrying militant US women with their #METOO movement. They should fill their needs for female company and sex in Tijuana. Then they would have strength and leverage to deal with US women and have a few live-in girl friends who cannot put hooks into their brains.Absolutely agree! Sage advice.
Captain Solo
12-16-18, 17:31
To Scudrucker,
HK meseros can make $100 or more a night with tips for each serving. Meanwhile most HK chicas make no or not much money, except popular strippers, and unless they get picked up for arribas a few times a night. They just hang around all night looking desperate.
To encourage hot girls to come back to work, we should show them our appreciation for their beauty, grace and loving personalities by tipping them for each interaction. If a girl approaches me, I would always give her a kiss and a squeeze, a propina into her crotch and my adoration. HK girls are not all hard, cold business and can be very personal with the right guys. A few of my new wingmen are good-looking and well liked by the girls. Hot, tall girls would drape themselves over these guys, rubbing their sexy bodies all over them, smiling sweetly with all their eyes and faces, acting soft and sexy, trying to seduce them. I told these guys it's not personal with bar girls unless they give them BB sex for free hehe.
The VIP lounge is not a good deal unless one is a flaming exhibitionist, getting his rock off making out and having sex in a semi public place with everyone lookng in. It will cost at least a bucket of fichas, big propinas for the girls and meseros, then most hot girls may not take their clothes off or do full-blown sex in that lounge. And various meseros will still barge in frequently to check if you need anything and to see how far you got with the girl!
If you want hot times with the girls, the secret is to look deeply into their eyes, smiling sweetly, nodding approval and adoration. The girls will come over, smiling, draping themselves over you, cooing, cuddling you lovingly like a baby hehe.
Hello!
Just wanted to share with everyone how my visit went at HK.
The boarder crossing into Mexico at 10:30 PM was not bad at all as there was no line. Once entering Mexico and walking down the sidewalk my friend and I only saw one cab driver before you get to the next set of turn style things. We got him down to $6 and went to HK.
Upon arrival we were given the standard beer + $7 cover and immediately upon entry given a table upstairs. The Mesero kept saying the VIP was for free but honestly we thought it was a scam and those seats suck anyways. Our Mesero Jose gave us a table right in the middle looking down at all the action.
He did give us a tip that I did not consider on my last visit. If you are certain you are going to take a girl for arriba when they bring her to you don't let her sit down and instead ask her how much for arriba. If you agree than go immediately and do not buy a drink for her. I have mixed feelings about this but it is one technique.
The first girl I took for arriba was Helena. She was a hottie with bolt ONS and a body to die for with long hair. She said $100 and I didn't argue. She took a pounding and I was not disappointed at all. I was hot as hell though after destroying that pussy. Well worth the money and a freak.
Next girl had been sitting around for a while and folks kept passing her by. She had a blue top on with legs to die for and super long black hair. So I tried the Meseros trick but actually went up to her and just asked how much for arriba. She said $80 and I said great. Man she was a freak that wanted to kiss and go hard at it. I was sweating like a mother and she was queefing a lot. Not that I care but I though that was hilarious.
Third girl I took up was actually sitting with my buddy. He wasn't doing much of nothing with her and when he went to the bathroom she sat with me and started feeling Mr. Johnson. She gave me a couple dances and I took her for arriba for $80 as well. I had the benefit that my friend already got her a drink. This girl fucked me so hard I had to lay down for like 5 minutes after it was finished to catch my breath dude. Worth every penny and more. Felt bad for my friend but she was bored with his ass anyways.
That brings us to about 4:00 AM at which point we exited and paid $5 to the cab to take us to the new boarder crossing. The guy asked about going to the old or new but I think it's the same. There are beggars along the way as you make it to entrance but it wasn't an issue. The agent did ask us at the entrance for our passports and where we had been. When we got to the agent at the processing line he did question us more than normal. He wanted to know where we were staying, what we did in Mexico, what games we played at the Casino, etc. If we weren't sober it could have been an issue.
Back across at 4:15 AM and going to wrap this trip up tomorrow and go home.
Dam that was a great night.
Dcrist0527
12-16-18, 22:01
If not careful, anyone can blow more than $1,000 a night in HK.Captain,
$1,000 a night is way out of my league. LOL. But I do admit to carrying way too much cash with me into Mexico. As a non-local, I make these trips count. I spend 4-7 days there at a time. And after my trip this month was such a success, planning another visit VERY soon. For budgeting, I typically plan nearly $400 per day. Each day, I plan for 1 escort, 1 BG, and either a massage or SG. That $400 includes fichas, my drinks, grope money, rooms, etc. That's probably on the high end. And don't worry, I'm not driving costs up. I hold the line at 80, lower when possible. But when you consider the cost of flights, hotel nights, etc. , I am going to make it worth my while when I am there.
I do like the idea of crossing back over to the US vs carrying all that cash at once. But, my experience, as someone who lives thousands of miles away is that CBP gets more suspicious with consecutive daily crossings.
I can't remember the post that started this conversation. But what I do, when carrying that much cash, is split it up in pockets, backpacks, etc. I'll have as many as five different stashes. If something was to happen, that would lessen the loss. Also, I was stopped by a CBP dog once for cash. That was on one of my very first visits. The agent was fine, just asked how much I had. That visit, I wasn't carrying that much. Maybe $300. But a lot of small bills. LOL Rookie move! I've learned a little since then. Haha.
Muncher8888
12-17-18, 17:52
Does it matter what we tell them as far as bars or casinos or Caliente?
"I was getting some wonderful pussy at the Zona"? OK I know that might not fly, but seriously can we say we are visiting the area regularly? I'm a 3 timer that wants to become a regular. Seems like the often (always?) question is going to be "Why were you here?
The agent did ask us at the entrance for our passports and where we had been. When we got to the agent at the processing line he did question us more than normal. He wanted to know where we were staying, what we did in Mexico, what games we played at the Casino, etc. If we weren't sober it could have been an issue.
You don't have to say HK or Zona. Every time I just say I went to the bars, which is true. They already know and don't care about you. I wouldn't start stuttering and say you were there for the museums, they're going to know you're full of it.
LovesToSploog
12-17-18, 21:02
I don't see why it would matter to the border agent what you do in Tijuana. Just be straight forward and remember you're coming back to the USA so be civil. Just tell them you were in the zona norte or the revolucion and if they ask more questions like what were you doing then just say Hong Kong and I'm sure they will understand. I've been to Tijuana about 15 times this year and I just tell them what I do with minimal questions asked. As long as you are not doing anything illegal such as bringing contraband then you are golden. They see thousands of people cross, they don't care if you down there for get a release.
Does it matter what we tell them as far as bars or casinos or Caliente?
"I was getting some wonderful pussy at the Zona"? OK I know that might not fly, but seriously can we say we are visiting the area regularly? I'm a 3 timer that wants to become a regular. Seems like the often (always?) question is going to be "Why were you here?
Does it matter what we tell them as far as bars or casinos or Caliente?
"I was getting some wonderful pussy at the Zona"? OK I know that might not fly, but seriously can we say we are visiting the area regularly? I'm a 3 timer that wants to become a regular. Seems like the often (always?) question is going to be "Why were you here?A visit to the Hong Kong club, Adelita, to watch a show on stage, drinking beer is not illegal. If you say that on the border, there is no problem. I answer first I was at dinner in restaurants: Monte Carlo, Sushi One or Azul in Zona (it's true). If the agent still asks, I was at the Hong Kong club and watched the show and drink beer. (this is not illegal). There are no more questions because nothing is illegal. You can have "random checks" every few months. You go to the next room and exactly I do not know why but they probably check the authenticity of your passport card and if you really are you. There are no questions and after 5-10 minutes you can go. BTW About 10 years I was a witness at the pedeast at midnight, how a drunk American was angry because the agent asked him too many questions and began to beat him. He was arrested immediately.
Dcrist0527
12-17-18, 21:54
A visit to the Hong Kong club, Adelita, to watch a show on stage, drinking beer is not illegal. If you say that on the border, there is no problem. I answer first I was at dinner in restaurants: Monte Carlo, Sushi One or Azul in Zona (it's true). If the agent still asks, I was at the Hong Kong club and watched the show and drink beer. (this is not illegal). There are no more questions because nothing is illegal. You can have "random checks" every few months. You go to the next room and exactly I do not know why but they probably check the authenticity of your passport card and if you really are you. There are no questions and after 5-10 minutes you can go. BTW About 10 years I was a witness at the pedeast at midnight, how a drunk American was angry because the agent asked him too many questions and began to beat him. He was arrested immediately.As others have said, I think what you say is less important than how you say it. Just my suspicion, but I think they are probably looking for signs of deception. So just be honest. Respectfully honest. LOL.
Thanks for all the great intel.
Seems like there are many different conversations and confusion about the inner workings of Hong Kong. First and most importantly HK is a Clip Joint Fridays and Saturday's. Those who have been around Tijuana and culture and I do mean Tijuana culture because it is a different and separate animal from Mexican culture already understand this about HK on the weekends. Tijuana is bastardization of American and Mexican culture do the influence and proximity to the United States. That being said there is a reliance and a natural tendency to take advantage of Gringos because Mexico is a class based system so those who have money power or influence in the country readily take advantage of the people and citizenry, the Mexican Government is a prime example of that. So being that you are a foreigner in a strange land they will try to exploit that to their advantage because that is what is being done to them on a daily basis. The majority of people who work in the Mexican service industry are seen as the low rung of society and are exploited by the Mexican elite, including the girls who work in the clubs and stand on the corners in the Zona. All the girls have is their looks to get by on so they use what they got to get what they want. Sure they may be sweet and cute but they truly do not like or respect you when you break it all down and I'm sure most of the mongers feel the same way about them. So yes the waiters, the cab drivers, the bathroom attendant will pray upon your ass at every turn just because you are American and seen as an easy mark. When dealing in the Zona show no fear if somebody is being aggressive girl waiter, cop, or whoever stand your ground and don't be a pushover. Showing weakness in this culture is a death sentence. I guarantee the more masculine you act the better your experience will be with girls and the staff. HK may have a lot going for itself because it has next to zero competition as far as it overall offerings are concerned, but it is lacking in customer service. Being shady and not pouring what you ordered is a big no no in terms of customer service. One way to combat this is by tasting what you ordered and politely but firmly tell them you want what you ordered or will not pay. Ask for the bottle to be brought to the table and poured in front of you, if he refuses get another waiter who will comply. If your goal is to drink top self all night like a boss then tipping a waiter $20.00 upfront to be your personal attendant will show them you are not messing around and are to be taken serious when it comes to your beverages / women. I guarantee they will not F-with you from that point on. The idea is to act arrogant but not rude if you do this I guarantee nobody will try to jerk you around.
As far as daytime goes yes there is a different shift of girls who work the streets and clubs. Personally I prefer daytime hours and off peak days. If night time is your only option Thursday night is probably your best bet in terms of quality and a more relaxed environment. There is never a shortage of girls in the zona. Yes the selection will not be as great as peak days but I guarantee you will find one who will tickle your fancy. The advantage of daytime is you avoiding the headaches of being taken advantage of by overzealous waiters, girls, and staff. Another advantage of daytime is the girls are a lot more relaxed and more rapport can be built. This is key because all women even working girls respond to the same shit. If you establish some basic rapport with them you will have a better experience. Compliment them on their eyes or hair, jewelry, tattoos even though you could really give a shit less trust me Mexican girls love that shit they eat it up and will reward you for the compliments for it upstairs. Never stay overnight in Cascadas or any other hotels in the Zona. Too much noise to get meaningful sleep and not very secure. If you must stay in a hotel in the zona to kill time between sessions and need to freshen up I recommend Hotel Diaz it has clean rooms and showers and a promo for 4 hours for like $250.00 Pesos it's just south of the arches in the zona. One advantage is you can sometimes get street girls who are willing to walk over with you for sessions there. IF you want a nicer hotel Caesars hotel is your best bet in terms of price, quality and location. It is chica friendly so if you need to order out for service you will not have any issues. AIRBNB is a great alternative as well in Tijuana. Never carry any more the $100.00 cash on you at one time. I urge you to pay in pesos if possible. Should be enough for at least one session for a top tiered club girl or 4 street girls. Use the ATM"s at Sorriana Market near the Dominoes pizza on Revolucion or the Caliente casino a couple blocks south they are open late and are secure never had any issues with card fraud. If you never been to the zona I suggest you walk around during the day and do your recon. It is relatively a lot more safe during the day and you will have a lay of the land once night hits and are either too buzzed or tired to try to navigate at night. Once night falls Ubers or taxis are the only safe and reliable way to leave the zona. VIP card not really worth it unless you go multiple times per week. To me the cost does not justify the additional benefits for non frequent flyers. Waiters will hate on customers because they get jealous that girls they have crushes on are fucking other dudes or the girls will flirt with them and think they are into them when they are just hustling them to gain some benefit. Girls in these clubs are ruthless due to competition among other girls. The waiters can and do fuck with the girls money if they are rebuffed or feel slighted or girls will fuck other waiters or staff to get the other girls jealous so that is the nasty reality behind all the fake asses, tits, hair, and make up. This lifestyle is not all that glamorous to work in anybody in the adult entertainment industry can attest to this. So all in all the zona is a very fun and dangerous place to be a part of. Most of this is not new to seasoned vets but just wanted to give my insights to the new guys who are just starting out. Have fun out there and be safe. Also there is a lot more Tijuana has to offer besides the zona. I urge people to venture out during the day. Plaza Rio is a great place for civie action lots of hot young girls out shopping during the day.
Border guards do not really care about. 80% of the answers they ask. They're watching 100% for tells. If you open a door, they willwalk through it though. Keep it simple: went Plaza Rio to shop, Cineopolis to see a movie, or to eat and drink.
In my case, I often have dog stuff so I show them Advantix that I got for $12 instead of $45 in the US (I buy 2 months worth, every 2 months, and dewormer every 3 months since my one dog loves to catch and eat flies).
They will debate you on some topics like Mexican Coke versus US Coke but I usually ignore their stupid comments.
I don't see why it would matter to the border agent what you do in Tijuana. Just be straight forward and remember you're coming back to the USA so be civil. Just tell them you were in the zona norte or the revolucion and if they ask more questions like what were you doing then just say Hong Kong and I'm sure they will understand. I've been to Tijuana about 15 times this year and I just tell them what I do with minimal questions asked. As long as you are not doing anything illegal such as bringing contraband then you are golden. They see thousands of people cross, they don't care if you down there for get a release.
LovesToSploog
12-18-18, 16:46
I go to classes in Garden Grove, I have a Vietnamese friend who told me he went with a group of older Vietnamese bros and had an orgy at HK, when he came back he had a Vietnamese border agent and the agent spoke to him in Vietnamese and he just straight up told him they went to HK and had an orgy. They all had a laugh and he let him pass, perhaps it's just the way you say it, my friend just laughed when he told me, I would not even think about doing this at all.
Border patrol probably asked them questions because it was 4 am. I don't know what they do to people who answer they were banging woman in zona Norte. I'm sure if they ask a hundred guys two or three will tell the truth. I say I went to see friends at a specific bar, to avoid the next question, and if they need more details I'll ask for a lawyer. They used to give me a hard time because they don't like anything about my life from constant moving, unmarried, irregular jobs, even a Mexican border woman made me talk to her for a long time about why I'm in California so much why I've never been married. Some of these border patrols on both sides are simply amusing themselves with the questions, hoping to get you flustered to say something wrong. I had one that patted me down went through my wallet in front of everyone.
CheckMate1
12-18-18, 17:47
I go to classes in Garden Grove, I have a Vietnamese friend who told me he went with a group of older Vietnamese bros and had an orgy at HK, when he came back he had a Vietnamese border agent and the agent spoke to him in Vietnamese and he just straight up told him they went to HK and had an orgy. They all had a laugh and he let him pass, perhaps it's just the way you say it, my friend just laughed when he told me, I would not even think about doing this at all.To all the Newbies:
Border Patrol Officials: What were you doing in Mexico?
You: Party.
BPO: Do you have anything to declare?
You: No.
Muncher8888
12-19-18, 00:30
Keep it simple: went Plaza Rio to shop, Cineopolis to see a movie, or to eat and drink.Good also because some of the agents seem to by typing as we speak. Mine did not, but I noticed the next desk over one was as he questioned.
Completely fictitious event. I am not saying this can or would happen, rather asking if a bro in this sitch should be careful what he answers:
Bro has a ***** wife. ***** wife is going for all his stuff in a divorce. Sleaze ball lawyer petitions to have his border crossings become part of the divorce. He is in notes as having visited HK (or even Azul) 32 times in the last year. This is used against him in the hearing. OR bro has a job with some moral turpitude be. S.
I'm just saying is there any good reason to not mention HK and related even tho it's 100 percent legal.
Relax those who this doesn't apply to / don't care. Myself I'd love to able to joke with agent as post below had Viet telling agent they had an orgy and agent laughed and said go on across.
MongerHunger
12-19-18, 07:35
Some of you guys are over thinking your response to CBP. Keep it simple and keep it moving.
They don't give a shit what you were doing, as long as it wasn't illegal. They are not the morality police, and if you're a citizen they cannot deny you entry. They can search all your shit and give you a ton of grief, if they want to, but they can't forbid you from entry.
In any case, for years, if asked, my response was always "Visiting friends" or "Visiting my girlfriend. " That basically kills any further questions in that vein. They will never ask her name, or where she lives, etc. They'll then move on to what, if anything, you're bringing back with you.
As another said, they are looking for tells. Nervousness, evasiveness, sweating, and so forth. They will usually want to look into your eyes. Look back. Be cool. Don't sweat. :D
Captain Solo
12-19-18, 13:20
Workers, security and reception guys, managers in HK and Cascada work long shift for peanuts. A lot of them work on calls only when the boss calls them in.
With the festive moods in the last week before Christmas, you can make some good friends giving propinas to the people you are familiar, with good wishes for their holidays. They will remember you and help you with all your needs. The girls also love holidays greetings and could use extra money.
The bros only spend most of the spare time of their lives in the company of the girls and the workers. Show them you care about their well-being and happiness in words and in acts. Make some good friends this holidays.
Muncher8888
12-19-18, 18:05
In any case, for years, if asked, my response was always "Visiting friends" or "Visiting my girlfriend. " That basically kills any further questions in that vein. They will never ask her name, or where she lives, etc. They'll then move on to what, if anything, you're bringing back with you.This would be my preferred answer. Will use and report back.
I want to avoid the follow up "What's her name, where does she live, how tight is she? Etc."
How long has it been since you used this answer on the regular?
Muncher8888
12-19-18, 18:11
Workers, security and reception guys, managers in HK and Cascada work long shift for peanuts. A lot of them work on calls only when the boss calls them in.
With the festive moods in the last week before Christmas, you can make some good friends giving propinas to the people you are familiar, with good wishes for their holidays. They will remember you and help you with all your needs. The girls also love holidays greetings and could use extra money.
The bros only spend most of the spare time of their lives in the company of the girls and the workers. Show them you care about their well-being and happiness in words and in acts. Make some good friends this holidays.Thanks for posting.
While I figured the workers lived off tips, I incorrectly assumed the guys behind the desk and managers were on salary.
Workers, security and reception guys, managers in HK and Cascada work long shift for peanuts. A lot of them work on calls only when the boss calls them in.
With the festive moods in the last week before Christmas, you can make some good friends giving propinas to the people you are familiar, with good wishes for their holidays. They will remember you and help you with all your needs. The girls also love holidays greetings and could use extra money.
The bros only spend most of the spare time of their lives in the company of the girls and the workers. Show them you care about their well-being and happiness in words and in acts. Make some good friends this holidays.What happened to the evening doorman that kind of looks like Edward James Olmos? Not a lot of friendly guys in the Zona but he would always let me bypass the cover charge.
FakeCheese
12-20-18, 02:49
Is it worth visiting Hong Kong from Dec. 26 to the 30th?
OneInTheDugOut
12-20-18, 03:04
Too much paranoia about talking to CBP. Simply say "went to get dinner" or if it's late "went to the casino" or "went to a club". They don't care. Nothing to be scared of. No follow up questions.
Bradley562
12-20-18, 08:03
This afternoon, HK had pinatas. At I saw two of them. One for the mesoros. Mesoros took turn stiking the pinata. They got to a point where the dollar bills started flying out and the meseros all literally dove to the ground like a school of piranhas and scooped up all the dollars in no time flat. Next came the customer pinata. Customers took turn hitting the pinata for 15 seconds and some were super wild almost hitting spectators. It was hilarious. This second pinata had no bills but little balloons with little notes inside, maybe discounts or prizes of HK services. Who knows but it seems to be a hit and a ways to get into the holiday spirit. The place was dead as many girls went back home for the holidays.
Muncher8888
12-20-18, 20:06
This afternoon, HK had...... The place was dead as many girls went back home for the holidays.Wed afternoon? Can I ask, are we talking only 10 girls total "dead" or? Were you able to stay into the night and did many more (any more?) show up?
Muncher8888
12-20-18, 22:38
Wed afternoon? Can I ask, are we talking only 10 girls total "dead" or? Were you able to stay into the night and did many more (any more?) show up?I will give a boots on ground report if I go this any of this FSSMTue.
Wed afternoon? Can I ask, are we talking only 10 girls total "dead" or? Were you able to stay into the night and did many more (any more?) show up?I went Wednesday night around 9 pm and the place was quite lively. About the regular number of chicks with a few seriously hot ones. Same situation at other clubs.
Anyone have any feedback on Grecia? Hangs out by the alley entrance wearing just a thong. Nice big natural tits.
NegotiateHard
12-21-18, 04:50
Christmas eve should be absolutely dead based on past reports, however I remember going on the 25th at night a couple years back. Bar was lively and had a good selection of girls working. This was the same for NYE.
Anyone ever been there? Looking for a spot that can be my go to spot number 2 when HK isn't doing it for me. Please share your experiences.
Anyone have any feedback on Grecia? Hangs out by the alley entrance wearing just a thong. Nice big natural tits.I'the like to know about her too. We talked about 5 minutes, she's from Sinaloa and she seemed friendly, but I didn't pull the trigger.
Christmas eve should be absolutely dead based on past reports, however I remember going on the 25th at night a couple years back. Bar was lively and had a good selection of girls working. This was the same for NYE.Yes, I agree!
Better selection on 25th & 1st than 24th & 31st.
Captain Solo
12-21-18, 19:24
Could have gone to HK Tuesday night for my wingman to meet Adele, the fun, cool, pretty, light-skin English-speaking spinner from Tijuana, but we decided to delay until Wednesday for a new bro to go with us, as Wednesday is his only day off. He confirmed multiple times the day before but flaked otu at the last minute with lame excuses.
My wingman missed out on meeting one of the prettiest and sweetest girl in HK, spending unlimited time with her in Cascada's VIP discount room. That was a big loss to accommodate a flaky guy.
Anyway, HK was decorated for Christmas, not crowdedwith guys but had lots of girls, many decked out in Christmas costumes, smiling, chatting. A few of the hottest girls were in by 8, Krystal, Rose, Sasha, Yselle ect. My wingman still thinks Yselle is the hottest girl with her pretty face and tatoos. I told him about Marilyn, who just recently stopped working HK. The club was lively, festive and happy. A couple strippers had propina rains, lots of green covered up the whole stage. Some Santa Claus on the balcony made the girls very happy this Christmas.
The wingman had a date with his ATF from Ensenada. She brought along her close friend Brenda, a pretty 3rd-year student at the Techologico University in Ensenada. Her speech was thoughtful, her manners kind, sweet and loving. We bought the girls fichas, ordered food and partied in a booth near the main entrance for cool fresh air. The girls were hungry and consumed most of the food. They liked the battered fried squid with hot sauce, which my wingman abhored. Azul's pizza was good, with about 3 x the cheese of US pizza.
Brenda was very pretty and sexy, speaking some English. We were kissing, petting, feeling each other up with passion. I was whispering my sexy compliments into her ears. She said she has to work in HK to pay school tuition, has no boyfriend as the boys would get jealous. She applied for a US visa this year but was denied due to her puta job. Immigration probably bribed someone to have Tijuana's updated putas register. AFAIK, most pretty girls from anywhere would be denied visas to travel solo into the US. Professional women with long-term careers, major assets and verified business contacts would have better chance.
She was smiling sweetly, pulled down her bra for me to suck on her tits, spreading her legs and pulled down her panties for me to finger her wet pussy right in front of the dumb staring meseros. I had a flashback of a highschool sweetheart, who sweetly showed me all her sexy assets. The wingman's GF frowned on us being too raunchy, but I really liked the hot looks, soft feels and loving personality of this young girl, so I was shameless hehe. I just had a hot session with a favorite street girls, but again had a raging hard on for this young, pretty, sexy girl.
She agreed to go to the hotel with my normal HK offer. Looked like she was horny and was looking for some hot sex. Cascada's ST room is now $19. I took back the $1 change from Arturo, not giving him tip. The girl was fully sexually developed soft, smooth body with sensuous curves, pretty face, full lips, braces in her mouth, smooth, light skin, round be cups, bubble butt, creamy thighs and her soppy wet crotch. We were fumbling, sucking on each other. I was sucking on her tits and rubbing her clit. She was moaning, groaning, writhing in pleasure. We were feeling really hot for each other and fucked each other's brains out in different ways with deep French kissing. Her pussy was naturally wet and snug, an incredible pleasure for a long time. I shot a big load and was exhausted. We were cuddling and talking in bed, making plans to meet in Ensanada for weekend dates. Would be very nice to spend whole weekends with her in an AirBnB renta near Ensenada's malecon with fresh seafood and unlimted sex with this pretty girl.
The knock came too soon. I had tipped the janitors beforehand, told them not to knock and confirmed the time in my phone. I told the janitors they knocked too early and refused to give them propinas. We went down to HK to meet up with the other couple. My wingman's GF was back at work. She probably thought I was a little too raunchy for her hehe. Had a very good sexy night in HK the week before Christmas. This is the best way to spend my spare time by far. I feel deeply sorry for the bros who are chained down by their #MeToo mates and guys who live too far to partake Tijuana's sexy party scene a few times every week hehe.
ClamSlammer
12-21-18, 22:21
Anyone ever been there? Looking for a spot that can be my go to spot number 2 when HK isn't doing it for me. Please share your experiences.It sucks. The bar is actually pretty nice looking. But the talent is sparse. Plus it's expensive. Not even close to what you'd find at HK. Skip this place it's a waste of time. If you need a break from HK or the Zona, Deja Vu and Amnesia are both better, albeit not by much.
Dcrist0527
12-22-18, 00:31
It sucks. The bar is actually pretty nice looking. But the talent is sparse. Plus it's expensive. Not even close to what you'd find at HK. Skip this place it's a waste of time. If you need a break from HK or the Zona, Deja Vu and Amnesia are both better, albeit not by much.I've never been to Amnesia. Looks nice from the outside but I haven't read anything good about it. As I stay at Ticuan every visit, the location is a plus. But is there ANY reason to go there? How does the cost compare to HK?
Bradley562
12-22-18, 02:04
Wed afternoon? Can I ask, are we talking only 10 girls total "dead" or? Were you able to stay into the night and did many more (any more?) show up?If I had to guesstimate, I would say around 40 women in the club. 10 standing in the back stairs, 15 in the booths, and another 7 on stages, 8 upstairs booth.
Aviator400
12-22-18, 04:29
It sucks. The bar is actually pretty nice looking. But the talent is sparse. Plus it's expensive. Not even close to what you'd find at HK. Skip this place it's a waste of time. If you need a break from HK or the Zona, Deja Vu and Amnesia are both better, albeit not by much.Was at Deja Vu last Saturday night. A waste of time. The only reason I went there was because I was staying at Pueblo Amigo and it is walking distance.
They had a porn star performing. The stage shows in general were fun to watch, as most of the time they had two girls who got fully nude during 3-song sets. No spinners; most all of the girls were carrying extra weight and had not purchased a gym membership.
Some kind of Arabian Nights theme going on. Most of the girls were into it, which was fun. However, it was tough to find a 6, much less an 8 or 9.
Girls were friendly. Bought four girls drinks. None of them spoke more than a few words of English. About 40-50 mongers and about 40 girls. Which is not a lot, considering the size of the place; plenty of empty tables.
MongerHunger
12-22-18, 07:08
Was at Deja Vu last Saturday night. A waste of time. The only reason I went there was because I was staying at Pueblo Amigo and it is walking distance.
They had a porn star performing. The stage shows in general were fun to watch, as most of the time they had two girls who got fully nude during 3-song sets. No spinners; most all of the girls were carrying extra weight and had not purchased a gym membership.
Some kind of Arabian Nights theme going on. Most of the girls were into it, which was fun. However, it was tough to find a 6, much less an 8 or 9.
Girls were friendly. Bought four girls drinks. None of them spoke more than a few words of English. About 40-50 mongers and about 40 girls. Which is not a lot, considering the size of the place; plenty of empty tables.What was the going rate for the chicas and fichas at Deja Vu on this particular night?
ClamSlammer
12-22-18, 13:28
I've never been to Amnesia. Looks nice from the outside but I haven't read anything good about it. As I stay at Ticuan every visit, the location is a plus. But is there ANY reason to go there? How does the cost compare to HK?The downslide of Amnesia started about 2015. Before that they had by far the highest ratio of hot chicas in Tijuana and it wasn't even close. Just to give an understanding of my rating system. I've never, ever seen a 9 or 10 in HK or the zona. I take that back. Adelita's had a 9 working one day back in 2009, a blonde that spoke perfect English. But on any given weekend, I'd rate 98% of HK girls 4 - 7. There might be 3-5 chicas I'd consider an 8 but that is the ceiling. Amnesia used to have way hotter chicas than HK and not nearly as many average chicas. So on a weekend, HK would have 300 chicas with 5 of them being hot. Amnesia would have 60 chicas, with 10 of them being hot. Anyhow, for whatever reason Amnesia starting losing business, and that started the chica exodus. They dropped their beer prices from $5 to $2-$3 depending on promo but that didn't help. It got pretty bad. Some weeknights there would only be maybe 5-8 chicas. And no stage dancing. And many chicas would dance on stage without taking off any clothing at all.
I haven't been to Amnesia in about a year. It got that bad. It used to be my go-to spot. I rarely went on weekends but weekdays were just too boring with the lack of talent. I don't know how weekends were because I rarely went. Cost was high. A ficha beer, served in a large shot glass, was $10. Chicas would regularly try to order double fichas, which were probably about a 6 oz pour in an old fashioned glass for $20. Lap dances $20. Arriba was $180 I believe, chica getting $100 and the house $80. The good thing about Amnesia is that it is a more relaxed environment. No obvious crack / meth / coke addicts like in HK. You can set your phone on the table without having to worry much about it getting stolen. The meseros actually care about providing decent service. I've gotten to itch to go back and see if there's any new talent. Will report back once I do so.
Was at Deja Vu last Saturday night. A waste of time. The only reason I went there was because I was staying at Pueblo Amigo and it is walking distance.I never said Deja Vu was good. Just that it's better than New Body.
Thank you for all the contributors, so I knew what to expect. But it was a very different from a few times I went to Tijuana to party 35 years ago. We then walked from the border, BS with the vendors, getting to the bars was half the fun. Today its a war zone, I would never walk there. I don't know if it was the caravan, but there were several dozen tents near the river within walking distance to the center. Instead of Americans negotiating their DUIs to $5, Federalis are encamped with Machine Guns questioning anyone that looks at them wrong. . And I never remembered seeing that many working girls on the streets. Anyways, went to Tropical and ended up staying, friendly girls to get horned dog up with then to the ally behind HK where I found a hot sexy looker that asked for 400 pesos, and 100 for the room. I didn't even try to negotiate, just made sure I got what I wanted. She wanted to chat, but with just 15 min, I went straight to business. She just laid there. At least it was a clean room, but a substandard lay. My experience in Asia is so much better. Those girls do anything to please you. Like last night for instance, I skyped with a Thai girl I know, 30 minute striptease and virtual BJ on Skype, no charge. She just wants me to see her next time I am there.
Border Patrol- Whats up with the questions? 35 years ago we didn't even have to show them our IDs. If you looked American, you got waved in. I got less hassle from the Israelis when I told them I will visit the Occupied Territories.
Generic Viagra- My main mission was to buy some generic Viagra as someone posted on this board a very low price. I think the posted price was 10 pills for $7, but that is wrong. Best I found was 20 pill packs for $24, still I am OK with that. BTW The pharmacy at the border is 4 pill packs for $9.
Footnote.
I remembered why we stopped partying there, and this was before teens went missing from the bars. One day we went to go see a bull fight and were disgusted with the torturing of a drugged bull. It wasn't a fight, just blood torture. What bugged us was that the bull was obviously drugged, and the locals were cheering each shot of blood. An omen of the violence to come I guess.
Dcrist0527
12-23-18, 00:41
The downslide of Amnesia started about 2015.Thanks for the info. At $180 for arriba and $20 fichas, I'll pass. Call me cheap. LOL.
Dcrist0527
12-23-18, 00:50
Thank you for all the contributors, so I knew what to expect. But it was a very different from a few times I went to Tijuana to party 35 years ago. We then walked from the border, BS with the vendors, getting to the bars was half the fun. Today its a war zone, I would never walk there. I don't know if it was the caravan, but there were several dozen tents near the river within walking distance to the center. Instead of Americans negotiating their DUIs to $5, Federalis are encamped with Machine Guns questioning anyone that looks at them wrong. . And I never remembered seeing that many working girls on the streets. Anyways, went to Tropical and ended up staying, friendly girls to get horned dog up with then to the ally behind HK where I found a hot sexy looker that asked for 400 pesos, and 100 for the room. I didn't even try to negotiate, just made sure I got what I wanted. She wanted to chat, but with just 15 min, I went straight to business. She just laid there. At least it was a clean room, but a substandard lay. My experience in Asia is so much better. Those girls do anything to please you. Like last night for instance, I skyped with a Thai girl I know, 30 minute striptease and virtual BJ on Skype, no charge. She just wants me to see her next time I am there..Interesting take. As a relative newbie, your depiction is what I see on my visits. I have walked there numerous times. Crossing that bridge, there are numerous camps that pre-date the caravan. The. 50 cal trucks do take some getting used to.
As for the generic, the pharmacy at the border is a rip off. But 70 cents a pill is what I pay every visit at Piri. (Directly across from the Wax Museum.) Not in the best area but haven't found anyone to beat that price.
I can't make any Asia comparisons. But making an overall statement based on one SG is overstating it a bit, in my opinion. But, put in context of your overall experience, it is understandable.
MongerHunger
12-23-18, 10:26
Thank you for all the contributors, so I knew what to expect. But it was a very different from a few times I went to Tijuana to party 35 years ago. We then walked from the border, BS with the vendors, getting to the bars was half the fun. Today its a war zone, I would never walk there. I don't know if it was the caravan, but there were several dozen tents near the river within walking distance to the center. Instead of Americans negotiating their DUIs to $5, Federalis are encamped with Machine Guns questioning anyone that looks at them wrong. . And I never remembered seeing that many working girls on the streets. Anyways, went to Tropical and ended up staying, friendly girls to get horned dog up with then to the ally behind HK where I found a hot sexy looker that asked for 400 pesos, and 100 for the room. I didn't even try to negotiate, just made sure I got what I wanted. She wanted to chat, but with just 15 min, I went straight to business. She just laid there. At least it was a clean room, but a substandard lay. My experience in Asia is so much better. Those girls do anything to please you. Like last night for instance, I skyped with a Thai girl I know, 30 minute striptease and virtual BJ on Skype, no charge. She just wants me to see her next time I am there..Thank you for your report. There is no city on earth that hasn't changed since 1983. Most people from 35 yrs ago are not on the scene. There has been new US agencies / administrations since and after 9/11 there has been major changes on the US border. I can recall the days when good panocha was less than 100 MX pesos (less than $10 USD) in BT Nuevo Laredo, MX. Things there have changed significantly since 1983 as well as the rest of Mexico.
Sounds like you had a blast! Keep up the good work!
Could have gone to HK Tuesday night for my wingman to meet Adele, the fun, cool, pretty, light-skin English-speaking spinner from Tijuana, but we decided to delay until Wednesday for a new bro to go with us, as Wednesday is his only day off. He confirmed multiple times the day before but flaked otu at the last minute with lame excuses.
My wingman missed out on meeting one of the prettiest and sweetest girl in HK, spending unlimited time with her in Cascada's VIP discount room. That was a big loss to accommodate a flaky guy.
Anyway, HK was decorated for Christmas, not crowdedwith guys but had lots of girls, many decked out in Christmas costumes, smiling, chatting. A few of the hottest girls were in by 8, Krystal, Rose, Sasha, Yselle ect. My wingman still thinks Yselle is the hottest girl with her pretty face and tatoos. I told him about Marilyn, who just recently stopped working HK. The club was lively, festive and happy. A couple strippers had propina rains, lots of green covered up the whole stage. Some Santa Claus on the balcony made the girls very happy this Christmas.
The wingman had a date with his ATF from Ensenada. She brought along her close friend Brenda, a pretty 3rd-year student at the Techologico University in Ensenada. Her speech was thoughtful, her manners kind, sweet and loving. We bought the girls fichas, ordered food and partied in a booth near the main entrance for cool fresh air. The girls were hungry and consumed most of the food. They liked the battered fried squid with hot sauce, which my wingman abhored. Azul's pizza was good, with about 3 x the cheese of US pizza.
Brenda was very pretty and sexy, speaking some English. We were kissing, petting, feeling each other up with passion. I was whispering my sexy compliments into her ears. She said she has to work in HK to pay school tuition, has no boyfriend as the boys would get jealous. She applied for a US visa this year but was denied due to her puta job. Immigration probably bribed someone to have Tijuana's updated putas register. AFAIK, most pretty girls from anywhere would be denied visas to travel solo into the US. Professional women with long-term careers, major assets and verified business contacts would have better chance.
She was smiling sweetly, pulled down her bra for me to suck on her tits, spreading her legs and pulled down her panties for me to finger her wet pussy right in front of the dumb staring meseros. I had a flashback of a highschool sweetheart, who sweetly showed me all her sexy assets. The wingman's GF frowned on us being too raunchy, but I really liked the hot looks, soft feels and loving personality of this young girl, so I was shameless hehe. I just had a hot session with a favorite street girls, but again had a raging hard on for this young, pretty, sexy girl.
She agreed to go to the hotel with my normal HK offer. Looked like she was horny and was looking for some hot sex. Cascada's ST room is now $19. I took back the $1 change from Arturo, not giving him tip. The girl was fully sexually developed soft, smooth body with sensuous curves, pretty face, full lips, braces in her mouth, smooth, light skin, round be cups, bubble butt, creamy thighs and her soppy wet crotch. We were fumbling, sucking on each other. I was sucking on her tits and rubbing her clit. She was moaning, groaning, writhing in pleasure. We were feeling really hot for each other and fucked each other's brains out in different ways with deep French kissing. Her pussy was naturally wet and snug, an incredible pleasure for a long time. I shot a big load and was exhausted. We were cuddling and talking in bed, making plans to meet in Ensanada for weekend dates. Would be very nice to spend whole weekends with her in an AirBnB renta near Ensenada's malecon with fresh seafood and unlimted sex with this pretty girl.
The knock came too soon. I had tipped the janitors beforehand, told them not to knock and confirmed the time in my phone. I told the janitors they knocked too early and refused to give them propinas. We went down to HK to meet up with the other couple. My wingman's GF was back at work. She probably thought I was a little too raunchy for her hehe. Had a very good sexy night in HK the week before Christmas. This is the best way to spend my spare time by far. I feel deeply sorry for the bros who are chained down by their #MeToo mates and guys who live too far to partake Tijuana's sexy party scene a few times every week hehe.
Mr Russell
12-24-18, 12:57
I am thinking about going tonight (Christmas eve) and staying Tuesday as well. Wondering if there will be a good amount of chicas working during the holidays or have most gone home to celebrate with their family?
Member #4722
12-24-18, 20:32
I am thinking about going tonight (Christmas eve) and staying Tuesday as well. Wondering if there will be a good amount of chicas working during the holidays or have most gone home to celebrate with their family?I was in HK Friday night / Saturday morning. Not an A+ lineup but plenty of good looking women. Was there Christmas eve last year in the AM and it was decent lineup. As long as you aren't super picky I am sure you will find something you like.
I am thinking about going tonight (Christmas eve) and staying Tuesday as well. Wondering if there will be a good amount of chicas working during the holidays or have most gone home to celebrate with their family?Christmas Eve will be dead, Tuesday will be better.
Most of the chicas have gone home, but still some chicas who are staying to make money.
Mr Russell
12-25-18, 12:27
You were right that it's dead (all the bars) this Christmas evening. Selection was minimal & terrible. I'm pretty picky so didn't't find one tonight. Hope the selection & quantity is better tomorrow.
Christmas Eve will be dead, Tuesday will be better.
Most of the chicas have gone home, but still some chicas who are staying to make money.
SpideyLennon
12-25-18, 19:27
Been a while since I've been in Tijuana. Planning to head back there tom or thurs. Any fellow mongers here experienced wed or thurs around noon time? Coming from LA so planning to leave really early on wed or thurs. Thanks in advance.
Baxter Slade
12-26-18, 05:04
Been a while since I've been in Tijuana. Planning to head back there tom or thurs. Any fellow mongers here experienced wed or thurs around noon time? Coming from LA so planning to leave really early on wed or thurs. Thanks in advance.All clubs with the exception of HK will be pretty dead around noon. And Thu. Will be a little better selection than wed.
GoodSense3
12-27-18, 19:00
Has any1 checked out club Congo Bongo on revolucion about 10 minutes walk from hk / CC yet?
Also anybody down to check it out this weekend?
ClamSlammer
12-27-18, 20:05
Has any1 checked out club Congo Bongo on revolucion about 10 minutes walk from hk / CC yet?
Also anybody down to check it out this weekend?"Congo Bongo" is an old Atari video game IIRC. I think you meant Coko Bongo. It's more like a 20 minute walk from the Zona. In my opinion it is the worst drinking establishment in Tijuana. I just wrote about this place in another thread. The cover charge is around $20 USD but it's open bar once inside. You won't have any hope of luring hot chicas to your table, enticing them with free drinks because the drinks are free anyway. The liquor they serve is absolutely horrendous. Worse than bottom of the barrel. For me, it's undrinkable. It's so cheap and impure you can feel the hangover coming on as you're drinking it. Beer is draft and watered down to shit. This place attracts a barely 18 crowd that has not yet learned how to discern decent liquor from home-distilled dog [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). You're better off trying your luck at El Copeo.
Captain Solo
12-27-18, 21:02
Went down with a bro Wednesday night, arriving about 8. HK was not crowded, about the same number of guys any Wednesday. The club was fairly quiet and relaxing, no noisy parties like last week.
Only half of the girls were working compared to normal, with some hottest spinners and a few of my favorites, Andrea, Krystal, Rose, Sasha, Tesla, Yselle etc. There was a very good selection of hot girls, even to my narrow taste for pretty spinners. The girls were going arriba in a steady clip.
2 girls were doing a lesbian show with a couple women sitting around Pista Sud. A woman was ramming a huge, long dildo all the way into a girl spreading eagle on stage hehe. That was raunchy.
MongerHunger
12-28-18, 01:09
"Congo Bongo" is an old Atari video game IIRC. I think you meant Coko Bongo. It's more like a 20 minute walk from the Zona. In my opinion it is the worst drinking establishment in Tijuana. I just wrote about this place in another thread. The cover charge is around $20 USD but it's open bar once inside. You won't have any hope of luring hot chicas to your table, enticing them with free drinks because the drinks are free anyway. The liquor they serve is absolutely horrendous. Worse than bottom of the barrel. For me, it's undrinkable. It's so cheap and impure you can feel the hangover coming on as you're drinking it. Beer is draft and watered down to shit. This place attracts a barely 18 crowd that has not yet learned how to discern decent liquor from home-distilled dog. You're better off trying your luck at El Copeo.Wow! Sounds like that place sux royally. Thanks for the intel. Besides the crappy drinks, I can't do the 18 yr old crowd. Them being drunk, immature and obnoxious would spoil it for me.
SaintLaurent
12-30-18, 03:50
So I have the option of going down to Tijuana any time next week after new years, which days do you recommend I visit for? I won't be staying no more than 2 nights. I went to HK once before last year and what I did was grab a quiet girl and just people watch with her. It was pretty relaxing, just gently caressing her because I don't speak Spanish and I don't have the energy to google translate and all that.
Which leads me to my next question, how long is an acceptable time to just chit chat or relax with a chica before taking her upstairs?
And lastly, it's been about a week since I've done the deed down there, so I'm very horny. Do you recommend doing an HK girl first or getting an escort and taking it easy.
Thanks, and I'll be writing a trip report this time around.
Captain Solo
12-30-18, 14:51
To Saint,
The further away from Jan 1 the better. A few chicas may spend New Year celebrating with BFs.
You operate very much the way I do. I am too lazy to do the translate. Just my silly and sexy pidgin Spanish will get the meanings, fun and spontaneity across.
It's very nice just to sit, kiss and caress the soft and sweet girls of your choice while watching the sexy shows and other people having fun. If the girl likes you, she would spend 10,15 minutes for each drink. Of course money is the primary driving factor. So they would rather go arriba after 1 or 2 drinks then come back down to snag more arribas. But I also see some of the hottest girls sit all night drinking with guys. So it depends on how much the girls like you and get compensated by you.
Instead of wasting time waiting for escorts, it's quicker and more convenient to pull a few street girls into hotel Cascada to get rid of your libido buildup. Then the subsequent sessions with pretty HK girls can be very long and satisfying. A few Tijuana regulars do the same thing so they can prolong sessions with HK girls. Will look forward to your report.
SaintLaurent
12-31-18, 03:34
Thanks for the answer Solo. I tried out a street girl last time but it was okay, the service was pretty mediocre. I think my plan of attack is to schedule an escort ahead of time then go to HK and get the blood flowing with some ficha lap dances. Meet up with the escort and just absolutely drain my balls. That way, I can take advantage of the MSOG service. Plus I'll have my weed pen if there's in issue with not lasting be / see weed really helps with going longer.
Scudrucker
12-31-18, 21:01
Thanks for the answer Solo. I tried out a street girl last time but it was okay, the service was pretty mediocre. I think my plan of attack is to schedule an escort ahead of time then go to HK and get the blood flowing with some ficha lap dances. Meet up with the escort and just absolutely drain my balls. That way, I can take advantage of the MSOG service. Plus I'll have my weed pen if there's in issue with not lasting be / see weed really helps with going longer.How are you crossing the border with a weed pen? I got balls but I will not cross a border with any non prescription drugs. In Canada it is legal and many have a pen with 93% thc distillate but any test at the border will show positive. Mexico is very close to legalization so that would be better for me. A girl gave me a joint once before she left. I decided to roll up a damp towel and got in the shower and smoked. Well that changed things and instead of bed, I went downstairs for a great second time. There is sometimes a guy that is selling at the cascades entrance, but that would be crazy danger. I think if I were ever inclined again, I would ask a bargirl or a mesero and offer a nice tip for quality and discretion. Some speak of zacas bar but again a little risky for me.
As far as the girls, I like to sit with a drink or 2 before saying yay or nay. My regular says I do not have to waste my money but it denies the booth time that can get very teasy (is that a word?
Besides after going upstairs, for me its usually over quickly. I have backed away lately on lapdances as I have a better time with 2 fichas.
I have started following hk and tropical on twitter. A tweet can put a smile on your face when you are months away from visiting, that and the occasional sneaked video from a club that shows up on youtube.
Have fun, you will have a blast.
Sr.
This would be my preferred answer. Will use and report back.
I want to avoid the follow up "What's her name, where does she live, how tight is she? Etc."
How long has it been since you used this answer on the regular?Just last night.
Border agent (SENTRI, Otay): Where are you going?
Me: Home.
BA: Where's home?
Me: XXXXXX (name of town).
BA: What were you doing in Mexico?
Me: Visiting my girlfriend.
BA: Nice.
That was the extent of it. They don't ask about where she lives, her number, name, nothing. Even if you gave them her number they wouldn't call. They don't really care. They're just looking for a tell that you might be smuggling something.
DramaFree11
01-01-19, 03:10
Just last night.
Border agent (SENTRI, Otay): Where are you going?
Me: Home.
BA: Where's home?
Me: XXXXXX (name of town).
BA: What were you doing in Mexico?
Me: Visiting my girlfriend.
BA: Nice.
That was the extent of it. They don't ask about where she lives, her number, name, nothing. Even if you gave them her number they wouldn't call. They don't really care. They're just looking for a tell that you might be smuggling something.Easy answer. You had dental surgery in Tijuana, works lie charm ever time.
First off, just want to thank everyone who has contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information here that is invaluable to newbies like me.
I have a birthday coming up and I decided to splurge and and finally treat myself to an HK trip. Pretty much I'm just looking to book one of Hotel Cascadas Master Suites with Jacuzzi and bring some hotties up to the suite for some jacuzzi time. Maybe in between these sessions, relax and watch some movies in the room. I have a couple of questions and would be super grateful to anyone who can help.
1. The Master Suites with Jacuzzi look great on the Hotel Cascadas website. Are they nice / pretty clean? They're a bit expensive on the weekend, but it'll be worth it if I can stay there and not worry about general hygiene. I'm talking about mysterious stains, bed bugs, dirty jacuzzi, etc. Also, does the WiFi in the room work?
2. Whats the likelihood that I can pull a hottie up to my room for some jacuzzi / shower time? Is that a fairly easy ask or do most girls not want to bathe / get wet while they're on the clock.
Thanks again!
SaintLaurent
01-01-19, 03:17
How are you crossing the border with a weed pen? I got balls but I will not cross a border with any non prescription drugs. In Canada it is legal and many have a pen with 93% thc distillate but any test at the border will show positive. Mexico is very close to legalization so that would be better for me. A girl gave me a joint once before she left. I decided to roll up a damp towel and got in the shower and smoked. Well that changed things and instead of bed, I went downstairs for a great second time. There is sometimes a guy that is selling at the cascades entrance, but that would be crazy danger. I think if I were ever inclined again, I would ask a bargirl or a mesero and offer a nice tip for quality and discretion. Some speak of zacas bar but again a little risky for me.Easy, take the cartridge and put it with your toiletries and take the actual device and stuff it with your clothes or something. I used the San Ysidro pedestrian crossing. 99% sure that even if customs did find it, they wouldn't know what the hell it is. At the very worst, they'll probably take you to the room and you can slip them' a $20 and be on your way.
I also asked one of the Cascadas cleaning staff for weed and he sold me a gram for like 150 pesos or something. Also got me papers and rolled it up for another 100 pesos. He offered cocaine and Viagra as well LOL. I don't think that it's that much of a risk if you ask a mesero or the cleaning staff, drugs are a very regular thing in clubs. At worst, they'll probably laugh and think you're a naive gringo or whatever.
KC Questor
01-01-19, 08:15
It's very nice just to sit, kiss and caress the soft and sweet girls of your choice while watching the sexy shows and other people having fun. If the girl likes you, she would spend 10,15 minutes for each drink. Of course money is the primary driving factor. So they would rather go arriba after 1 or 2 drinks then come back down to snag more arribas. But I also see some of the hottest girls sit all night drinking with guys. So it depends on how much the girls like you and get compensated by you.I walked into the club at around 6 pm on a Tuesday and a girl sat down with me almost immediatly. I liked her look and bought her a drink, but was upfront with her that I had just had a nut a few minutes ago and wouldn't be going again for a while. I told her I only had one more in me and the night was still young, but she was welcome to sit with me and try to persuade me that the time was right. She smiled and sat with me for more than an hour, rubbing and kissing and dancing for me. I bought her four drinks. In the end I decided it wasn't going to happen with her and let her go with a $10 tip. So I had an hour of full contact lap dances for $50. It was pretty nice.
I've also had girls chug their drink in less than 5 minutes when they realized I wasn't going upstairs. It's a bit of a crapshoot.
Went down with a bro Wednesday night, arriving about 8. HK was not crowded, about the same number of guys any Wednesday. The club was fairly quiet and relaxing, no noisy parties like last week.
Only half of the girls were working compared to normal, with some hottest spinners and a few of my favorites, Andrea, Krystal, Rose, Sasha, Tesla, Yselle etc. There was a very good selection of hot girls, even to my narrow taste for pretty spinners. The girls were going arriba in a steady clip.
2 girls were doing a lesbian show with a couple women sitting around Pista Sud. A woman was ramming a huge, long dildo all the way into a girl spreading eagle on stage hehe. That was raunchy.I think I know several of these girls and can vouch that they are lookers. I've had good GFE with few of them but your mileage will vary with these "pros" so to speak. Some work quite a few days a week and can be worn out depending on the night. Always buy a drink or five and feel out the girl.
Welcome! The master suites are much bigger in the pictures than in real life but yes they are much bigger than the normal rooms. I would suggest that you read the forum a bit more and most of your questions will be answered. Just keep in mind the price for the girls is usually for 30 minutes ish so you experience may be different than the next guy. If they are on shift they will not stay too long otherwise they will get fined the HK girls are not allowed to stay at the Cascadas after their shift they will get in trouble but have some done it of course. There is no %100 guarantee that the girl you had a great time in the club will be a good time upstairs. If you read the forum a bit more you will get most of your questions answered
First off, just want to thank everyone who has contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information here that is invaluable to newbies like me.
I have a birthday coming up and I decided to splurge and and finally treat myself to an HK trip. Pretty much I'm just looking to book one of Hotel Cascadas Master Suites with Jacuzzi and bring some hotties up to the suite for some jacuzzi time. Maybe in between these sessions, relax and watch some movies in the room. I have a couple of questions and would be super grateful to anyone who can help.
1. The Master Suites with Jacuzzi look great on the Hotel Cascadas website. Are they nice / pretty clean? They're a bit expensive on the weekend, but it'll be worth it if I can stay there and not worry about general hygiene. I'm talking about mysterious stains, bed bugs, dirty jacuzzi, etc. Also, does the WiFi in the room work?
2. Whats the likelihood that I can pull a hottie up to my room for some jacuzzi / shower time? Is that a fairly easy ask or do most girls not want to bathe / get wet while they're on the clock.
Thanks again!.
Aviator400
01-01-19, 19:01
First off, just want to thank everyone who has contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information here that is invaluable to newbies like me.
I have a birthday coming up and I decided to splurge and and finally treat myself to an HK trip. Pretty much I'm just looking to book one of Hotel Cascadas Master Suites with Jacuzzi and bring some hotties up to the suite for some jacuzzi time. Maybe in between these sessions, relax and watch some movies in the room. I have a couple of questions and would be super grateful to anyone who can help.
1. The Master Suites with Jacuzzi look great on the Hotel Cascadas website. Are they nice / pretty clean? They're a bit expensive on the weekend, but it'll be worth it if I can stay there and not worry about general hygiene. I'm talking about mysterious stains, bed bugs, dirty jacuzzi, etc. Also, does the WiFi in the room work?
2. Whats the likelihood that I can pull a hottie up to my room for some jacuzzi / shower time? Is that a fairly easy ask or do most girls not want to bathe / get wet while they're on the clock.
Thanks again!1. All the rooms are fairly clean. I have not had issues recently. I say "recently," as a few years ago the Jacuzzi would fill with brown water. I am guessing that the plumbing was updated with the remodel, as the past year it has been fairly clean. That said, I still would not drink it. And in most other aspects the rooms have been clean. I have seen a few stains on bed covers that were not of my making. Usually the WiFi works.
2. Varies. Some will and some won't. Had several ATFs that couldn't wait to get in the Jacuzzi and provided excellent entertainment while we enjoyed the bubbles. And I have had others who had no interest and refused the Jacuzzi, although some did shower with me. I am guessing that the shaving cream show girls have zero problems with playing in the Jacuzzi. Just make sure you ask before going arriba. And it takes 10-15 minutes to fill the tub, so you are going to have to make sure you negotiate time and price accordingly.
Captain Solo
01-02-19, 00:20
I took a very hot girl into the corner lap dance booth. She was pretty with a lean, soft body, fun and sexy, smiling sweetly, dancing to the music, grinding on my lap, kissing me, stroking my dick, urging me urgently "fuck me, fuck me honey, hehe. That girl was so pretty, sexy, lovable and so much fun. I liked her so much.
The lap dance gives you more privacy in the booth, but it is small, not much sex can be done in it within a couple songs, unless the girl give you a BBBJ.
But last week a college student from Ensenada gave me a very hot, loving time at a booth open to the public. I was kissing her mouth, squeezing, sucking her tits and fingering her wet pussy. She was all smiling sexily, seemed to enjoy it and was very wet and hot in bed right after hehe.
$50 for an hour for sexy, intimate contacts with a soft, sweet, pretty young girl is a very good deal, may be even a steal. Guys in the US have mortgage their whole lives away and work like dogs all their lives to get some of that intimate contacts with old, ugly, obese, beetchy women hehe.
SaintLaurent
01-02-19, 02:38
In terms of leaving stuff in the room. Can I leave my passport and money? I haven't heard any conflicting reports but I just want to make sure.
First off, just want to thank everyone who has contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information here that is invaluable to newbies like me.
I have a birthday coming up and I decided to splurge and and finally treat myself to an HK trip. Pretty much I'm just looking to book one of Hotel Cascadas Master Suites with Jacuzzi and bring some hotties up to the suite for some jacuzzi time. Maybe in between these sessions, relax and watch some movies in the room. I have a couple of questions and would be super grateful to anyone who can help.
1. The Master Suites with Jacuzzi look great on the Hotel Cascadas website. Are they nice / pretty clean? They're a bit expensive on the weekend, but it'll be worth it if I can stay there and not worry about general hygiene. I'm talking about mysterious stains, bed bugs, dirty jacuzzi, etc. Also, does the WiFi in the room work?
2. Whats the likelihood that I can pull a hottie up to my room for some jacuzzi / shower time? Is that a fairly easy ask or do most girls not want to bathe / get wet while they're on the clock.
Thanks again!Congrats on taking your first trip. You are going to have a blast.
1. The master suites are clean. Nothing to worry about.
2. Depends on the girl and what time it is. If it is early most / many girls will not want to mess up their makeup / hair. They spend a good amount of time sometimes 1-2 hours getting ready for the night. If you are planning to stay with the same girl all night that is a different story. Make sure they know that and they won't mind the water. Also as another poster pointed out the girls have an obligation to the club. They cannot just stay in your room without getting in trouble. They have a drink quota to fill unfortunately. If you are willing to buy a bucket of beers up to your room then they can stay with you longer. Just remember each "lady drink" is 10 bucks and that doesn't include the fee to the girl. If you can offer them enough money though they will shirk the rules for you. YMMV. I will say that I've had girls stay the whole night with me so it is not impossible but it truly is YMMV. Depends on how much they like you. Do they find you attractive? Do you have deep pockets or are you willing to shell out the money? Are they tired? Is their rent or other bills due soon? You get the picture.
See my other two posts for additional tips if you haven't already read them.
Have fun!
Agree with previous poster. It's one of those YMMV things. Some girls are very particular about their hair, and not likely to mess around in water. Others are only willing to provide "standard" suck and fuck routine, and they will also not be willing to do the jacuzzi thing. Always best to check and negotiate up front.
First off, just want to thank everyone who has contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information here that is invaluable to newbies like me.
2. Whats the likelihood that I can pull a hottie up to my room for some jacuzzi / shower time? Is that a fairly easy ask or do most girls not want to bathe / get wet while they're on the clock.
In terms of leaving stuff in the room. Can I leave my passport and money? I haven't heard any conflicting reports but I just want to make sure.I would keep your passport / money on you or at least in an inconspicuous location. Everyone who works there has access to your room. You could be fine or someone could be desperate that night and take your shit. Money (depending on how much) is meh. Passport on the other hand. Not having that will f up your trip real fast.
LuisFelipe
01-02-19, 21:04
In terms of leaving stuff in the room. Can I leave my passport and money? I haven't heard any conflicting reports but I just want to make sure.I have stayed there about 10 times, I never had an issue, I always stay in the room all my luggage and others.
I took a very hot girl into the corner lap dance booth. She was pretty with a lean, soft body, fun and sexy, smiling sweetly, dancing to the music, grinding on my lap, kissing me, stroking my dick, urging me urgently "fuck me, fuck me honey, hehe. That girl was so pretty, sexy, lovable and so much fun. I liked her so much.
The lap dance gives you more privacy in the booth, but it is small, not much sex can be done in it within a couple songs, unless the girl give you a BBBJ.
But last week a college student from Ensenada gave me a very hot, loving time at a booth open to the public. I was kissing her mouth, squeezing, sucking her tits and fingering her wet pussy. She was all smiling sexily, seemed to enjoy it and was very wet and hot in bed right after hehe.
$50 for an hour for sexy, intimate contacts with a soft, sweet, pretty young girl is a very good deal, may be even a steal. Guys in the US have mortgage their whole lives away and work like dogs all their lives to get some of that intimate contacts with old, ugly, obese, beetchy women hehe.A lot of women in the US are spoiled but it's no ones fault but our own for putting them on a pedestal. It's not necessarily just US women though. The chicas in Mexico and other countries can be the same way if put on a pedestal by someone. They get complacent, fat, bitchy, etc. Once you realize that there are literally millions of hot women out there who take care of themselves and are willing to open up their legs for you it really puts a new perspective on things. This brings me to another piece of advice for those going to Hong Kong. Never ever seem desperate. Never ever get attached. Many of these girls are pros and will take full advantage of you if they sense any weakness. This can mean higher prices, subpar service, 5 minute or less lady drinks, upcharging, and etc. Even if they are literally the hottest chica in the club, don't be afraid to send them on their way. I've done this and they always have this shocked face and kind of just sit / stand there for a second, confused, looking at me like I must be crazy for letting them go. Don't ever feel "locked into" being with a girl because you've already spent x amount of money on her. Better to cut your losses. Remember there is always someone hotter and or more willing. I've been around and while HK is easy to get to and close to the US I would rate their hottest girls on a usual day around a 7 or 8 with the occasional but rare 9/10. As I've said before GFE is available but these chicas in general are pretty mechanical. I'd rate the overall quality of service about a 4-5 but have had 9/10 experiences as well. It's not until you've traveled around the world a bit that you really see what's available out there. I have to put in a little more effort to find a girl I like in Hong Kong but it's close enough to make a 2-3 day trip / vacation out of unlike Europe or Asia where you really have to spend at least a week or more.
In terms of leaving stuff in the room. Can I leave my passport and money? I haven't heard any conflicting reports but I just want to make sure.Unless you fly in, get a border card and leave the passport at home. Keep it and cash on you. REI and others have a very nice money belt, looks just like a normal belt, not a bag.
Pro tip. Bring both Passport and Passport card. Leave Passport locked in a room safe, and I carry PP Card on in your wallet. This way you have redundancy. Even if one gets stolen, you will have another one.
Unless you fly in, get a border card and leave the passport at home. Keep it and cash on you. REI and others have a very nice money belt, looks just like a normal belt, not a bag.
LuvMexicanas
01-03-19, 04:40
A lot of women in the US are spoiled but it's no ones fault but our own for putting them on a pedestal. It's not necessarily just US women though. The chicas in Mexico and other countries can be the same way if put on a pedestal by someone. They get complacent, fat, bitchy, etc. Once you realize that there are literally millions of hot women out there who take care of themselves and are willing to open up their legs for you it really puts a new perspective on things. This brings me to another piece of advice for those going to Hong Kong. Never ever seem desperate. Never ever get attached. Many of these girls are pros and will take full advantage of you if they sense any weakness. This can mean higher prices, subpar service, 5 minute or less lady drinks, upcharging, and etc. Even if they are literally the hottest chica in the club, don't be afraid to send them on their way. I've done this and they always have this shocked face and kind of just sit / stand there for a second, confused, looking at me like I must be crazy for letting them go. Don't ever feel "locked into" being with a girl because you've already spent x amount of money on her. Better to cut your losses. Remember there is always someone hotter and or more willing. I've been around and while HK is easy to get to and close to the US I would rate their hottest girls on a usual day around a 7 or 8 with the occasional but rare 9/10. As I've said before GFE is available but these chicas in general are pretty mechanical. I'd rate the overall quality of service about a 4-5 but have had 9/10 experiences as well. It's not until you've traveled around the world a bit that you really see what's available out there. I have to put in a little more effort to find a girl I like in Hong Kong but it's close enough to make a 2-3 day trip / vacation out of unlike Europe or Asia where you really have to spend at least a week or more.Same as a poker table, throwing good money after bad is never a good idea.
Captain Solo
01-03-19, 07:06
To RXYLIRATE.
Everyrthing you said about bar girls is dead accurate. Don't ever give them the idea you are in love with their beauty or their pussies. They just play harder games and try to squeeze you for all your money.
A few noobs thought they are something special to these girls after throwing money at them, treating them like princesses, only to find out they would demand more money, play ornery dead fish in bed and rush them to finish quickly hehe. A few of my wingmen went dead broke buying fichas and making loans to these girls. After they ran short of money, their bar GFs would not even look at them in the club.
But not all girls are bad. It all depends on how you deal with them. The girls will figure out quickly how far they can push you. If you let them rip you off, they will do just that without guilt or shame. I know a few hot girls in HK and on the street, who treat me like a good friend, even though I stick to the local rates. They know quickly I am not a sucker for their games and treat me fairly.
You are not addressing the worst losers' situation, marrying some fat, stupid, ugly, demanding, manipulative, abusive US women, who whip them into slaving their asses off to provide everything they want. I know a few guys stuck in extremely bad marriages, no love, no sex, no lap dances, not even a smile or a thank you from their ugly wives hehe.
So we should use all our intelligence, experiences, concsciense and do whatever necessary to get what we want in exchange of what we have. We can't win all the time but should feel blessed if the majority of our deals turn out happy for both parties.
I no longer go to Asia for girls. I have more fun, sweet and sexy times every week with hot Tijuana girls with my very limited Spanish, without having to spend lots of time and money.
A lot of women in the US are spoiled but it's no ones fault but our own for putting them on a pedestal. It's not necessarily just US women though. The chicas in Mexico and other countries can be the same way if put on a pedestal by someone. They get complacent, fat, bitchy, etc. Once you realize that there are literally millions of hot women out there who take care of themselves and are willing to open up their legs for you it really puts a new perspective on things. This brings me to another piece of advice for those going to Hong Kong. Never ever seem desperate. Never ever get attached. Many of these girls are pros and will take full advantage of you if they sense any weakness. This can mean higher prices, subpar service, 5 minute or less lady drinks, upcharging, and etc. Even if they are literally the hottest chica in the club, don't be afraid to send them on their way. I've done this and they always have this shocked face and kind of just sit / stand there for a second, confused, looking at me like I must be crazy for letting them go. Don't ever feel "locked into" being with a girl because you've already spent x amount of money on her. Better to cut your losses. Remember there is always someone hotter and or more willing. I've been around and while HK is easy to get to and close to the US I would rate their hottest girls on a usual day around a 7 or 8 with the occasional but rare 9/10. As I've said before GFE is available but these chicas in general are pretty mechanical. I'd rate the overall quality of service about a 4-5 but have had 9/10 experiences as well. It's not until you've traveled around the world a bit that you really see what's available out there. I have to put in a little more effort to find a girl I like in Hong Kong but it's close enough to make a 2-3 day trip / vacation out of unlike Europe or Asia where you really have to spend at least a week or more.
Dcrist0527
01-03-19, 14:00
Pro tip. Bring both Passport and Passport card. Leave Passport locked in a room safe, and I carry PP Card on in your wallet. This way you have redundancy. Even if one gets stolen, you will have another one.Question. I fly in. I have the traditional passport. I suppose I could use a card because I fly into San Diego. But I don't have the card. Usually, walking around Tijuana, (inside and outside ZN) I carry my passport. I hate that because of the chance of being robbed, plus, it's gotten pretty ratty. Last visit, I locked the passport up in the safe and just carried my driver's license as ID. I took a photo of my passport with me on my phone. My DL is from an East Coast state, not California. If I was stopped by police, would that driver'a license be sufficient? Does my bribe go higher? Or would I be in more trouble?
I'm not in love with the idea of the driver's license since it has my address. But I don't think the low-level street thug would find an address thousands of miles away of interest.
Captain Solo
01-03-19, 18:47
Drove down to HK New Year day 7 PM, got a double room in Cascada with HK's VIP discount. It was a very good deal, as both Casdcada and Rizo de Orro were booked solid for the New Year holidays.
HK was not crowded, about 50 girls were in by 8. There were lots of new hot girls, a few stunningly beautiful. A bro went for a hot girl wearing a white lacy negligee, offering her a drink, but she turned it down, saying she would only go arriba, no drinks. She was picked up for the hotel a few times for the night. So the demand is way higher than supply and it was a pussy sellers' market hehe.
I went around talking to half a dozen hot new girls, offering them the UN MIL deal. They all looked at me like an alien from Mars. So my deal works better with girls who have seen me around the club with my spending patterns, or those I have done before, not the new, hot, young girls with high expectations hehe. Finally a new girl reached out to me and agreed to UN MIL.
She was a little thick. I should have just bailed with an excuse after she took the 1 MIL offer. Went to the room, she made me take a shower while she set her alarm clock. Cascada's hot water never turns on when you need it. Damn, it was cold. She proceeded to wipe down my groin region and gave me a decent CBJ. I did not get aroused quickly with her lack of beauty and sexiness. We proceeded to CG and missionary. Her pussy was tight and wet. She was groaning at times but the whole sexercise was bland and boring, not exciting. She did her job carefully but seriously without passion, just like my mechanic changing my car's oil hehe. Worse yet, the dumb janitors knocked on the door twice while we were screwing. Damn. I had to tell the girl to yell out to them to stop fucking with the all night rooms. Just then her alarm clock rang. I told her I did not finish but she did not care. She rolled everything up, took a quick shower of her crotch, dried up then quietly exited the room without saying a word. Damn. Jackign off to porn would have be far more exciting. I would never do her again and have serious doubt about the attractiveness and values of HK's girls.
In contrary, I found Camilla shivering in the cold night with her black down jacket and wool mitts in front of hotel Coahuila. She has a beautiful natural body with perfectly round be cups, nice long sexy legs, light soft skin with no tattoos, a very pretty face with her constant shy, sexy smile and twinkles in her eyes. Took her to the hotel. She was smiling, asking me where I was during Christmas while she was working. It was so cold, I had to rub my hands to warm up before I could touch her beautiful body. I lied down on top to keep her warm while she was asking me lots of questions. I quickly had a raging erection with this pretty girl. We did missionary to keep our bodies warm, embracing each other tightly. It was a long, hot and satisfying session. I felt far more sexy with this girl than the HK girl. She was pouting about not having Christmas presents. She always talks with a sweet smile and twinkles in her eyes. There were lots of exchanges of pleasures and feelings between us.
Hang out in HK some more, but found HK girls plain and boring after the childish exchange with Camilla. Drove back to the border by 11. The SENTRI lanes were short, about 5 cars in line. We crossed in less then 10 minutes. Meanwhile the ready and regular lanes stretched way back into downtown Tijuana, slowly crossing CBP booths, estimated wait time 6 to 7 hours. Looks like CBP is taking lots more time checking cars returning to the US.
Dcrist0527
01-03-19, 20:25
I know this has been discussed in the past. Does anyone know definitively how much the chicas receive per fichas? And does anyone know what the actual quota is?
I'm asking because I'm hoping to negotiate with a BG for some time away from HK and Cascadas and I want to have an idea their "potential" earnings in that time.
Scudrucker
01-04-19, 01:39
Question. I fly in. I have the traditional passport. I suppose I could use a card because I fly into San Diego. But I don't have the card. Usually, walking around Tijuana, (inside and outside ZN) I carry my passport. I hate that because of the chance of being robbed, plus, it's gotten pretty ratty. Last visit, I locked the passport up in the safe and just carried my driver's license as ID. I took a photo of my passport with me on my phone. My DL is from an East Coast state, not California. If I was stopped by police, would that driver'a license be sufficient? Does my bribe go higher? Or would I be in more trouble?
I'm not in love with the idea of the driver's license since it has my address. But I don't think the low-level street thug would find an address thousands of miles away of interest.Personally I always stow passport, cash, and a credit card in the safe as soon as possible.
That passport is the only thing getting you back in your country.
Lose it and you got some running around to do plus the questions about where you were and how you lost it.
Carry a photo copy in your Tijuana wallet. I do not carry a regular wallet in Tijuana. You do not need 4 credit cards, pics of fam and all sorts. You need a drivers licence, health card, bank card, passport photocopy, and what ever else you require in Tijuana. Some use credit cards, I do not but keep 1 in the safe. That will get you cash, meals, hotels in case of robbery.
If the cop does not like it, tell him you have been robbed before and would gladly produce the passport at the hotel.
The passport card sounds like a good alternative for USA Citizens.
Sr.
Long Don Silva
01-04-19, 02:49
Question. I fly in. I have the traditional passport. I suppose I could use a card because I fly into San Diego. But I don't have the card. Usually, walking around Tijuana, (inside and outside ZN) I carry my passport. I hate that because of the chance of being robbed, plus, it's gotten pretty ratty. Last visit, I locked the passport up in the safe and just carried my driver's license as ID. I took a photo of my passport with me on my phone. My DL is from an East Coast state, not California. If I was stopped by police, would that driver'a license be sufficient? Does my bribe go higher? Or would I be in more trouble?
I'm not in love with the idea of the driver's license since it has my address. But I don't think the low-level street thug would find an address thousands of miles away of interest.I think you'll be fine. A general rule of thumb that I follow is that Mexicans will respect you a lot more if you at least try to speak Spanish with them. So if you're not already conversational, at least learn the Spanish for what you would anticipate having to say in such a scenario. And that would also include, if necessary, apologizing for not knowing enough Spanish to understand what they say to you in response. They'll probably know a little bit of English in that case, but they'll cut you a lot more slack if you are at least trying to speak Spanish with them.
Question. I fly in. I have the traditional passport. I suppose I could use a card because I fly into San Diego. But I don't have the card. Usually, walking around Tijuana, (inside and outside ZN) I carry my passport. I hate that because of the chance of being robbed, plus, it's gotten pretty ratty. Last visit, I locked the passport up in the safe and just carried my driver's license as ID. I took a photo of my passport with me on my phone. My DL is from an East Coast state, not California. If I was stopped by police, would that driver'a license be sufficient? Does my bribe go higher? Or would I be in more trouble?
I'm not in love with the idea of the driver's license since it has my address. But I don't think the low-level street thug would find an address thousands of miles away of interest.You should be OK with a color copy of your passport. I've been stopped a number of times through the years and was OK with a driver license. I had my passport but didn't show it. Actually, I've returned through border control with only a driver license where you're required 2 IDs. I believe if you can prove it's you in the photo, and you're in the system, you're OK getting home.
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