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San Ysidro 20 min or less.
Pad West 10 or less.
HK beer $7.
Chica.
Spanglish. Tijuana OK too.
Let's not forget, in order to do any of this you need to master step number 1: learn Spanish.
If you don't know Spanish, you can't finesse shit. It's hard to interview downstairs without Spanish because you may try to negotiate that you want to pay after, but you may not be aware how you're coming off in Spanish. If you're not phrasing what you want in a positive way, most of the girls will immediately say no. And sometimes the girls act confused after you tell them, so now you don't know if they didn't understand or if they did understand but are just staying silent so they don't "call your bluff".
You got to know Spanish to finesse. It makes it easier to get across what you want. The easiest approach is to pick the hot girl, say "arriba 80 dollars", and then off you go. In my experience though this just does not work out, 85% of the time you get a shit session. You definitely need to interview for a few minutes and find out the following things:.
Scudrucker
09-14-19, 01:20
I have to disagree on knowing Spanish to finesse the girls.
Even as a newbie, I always got my point across. It most certainly helps to speak spanish but during that ficha, I never found the language a barrier. Touching my 2 fingers to my lips then hers, I waited for the kiss. See what happens. Lots of ways to communicate.
The more you are down there, the more natural the words begin to flow.
Now with google translate and other apps, the technical have become easier.
It really is a learning curve, a fun one.
In Canadian schools, French was required. Not much help down there.
In all the major bars, the meseros pay the bar to work there. That is why there are 10 X more meseros than necessary. CC meseros are by far the most dishonest. You pay with pesos at HK / AB / TB and you have maybe a 5%-10% chance of getting short-changed. At CC the rate is literally 100%. Their posted exchange rate is 19:1 but the meseros charge you 20:1 and pocket the difference. They don't do it sometimes, or half the time, or most of the time. They do it every time.If money is the primary factor then Chicago is the worst. But I have had HK waiters stare me down trying to intimidate me into another drink, asked if I wanted a boy instead, and Called me a faggot.
No wonder HK security searches guests so thoroughly for weapons. I would bet that a couple of irritated patrons have been pushed a little too far by waiters and came back to get even.
I made my first visit to La Zona in October 2004.
I found out about La Zona just one or two months earlier on the internet.
It was obvious to me that some Spanish was necessary, but not much Spanish was necessary. Before going to LZ I wrote down and memorized just a few Spanglish phrases. They were geared toward negotiating for sex sessions with street girls.
Tu es muy bonita.
Por mi, sin ropa, fucky / suckie, tres positiones, doscientos pesos.
Si.
No.
Bueno..Yes. I find that one only needs to learn key Spanish words, and the chicas will help with conversation. One need not learn the full language. Also I often throw an "o" into English words and somehow the Chicas know what I mean. Thumbs up to women's intuition.
Got really really hammered at HK last night and somewhere in the middle of the session condom fell off and I came in a really hot chick. She didn't mind. O well hope I don't die. It was fun. Last night was good not too crowded and lots of hotties. I only banged one but it was worth it.Me too. About a week ago. Not Hong Kong though. Happens all night long to people. They break, some girls, like regular girls prefer it without, I'd say 70% tinder dates request no condom on first sex, and working girls are normal people themselves their mentality doesn't always change on condoms. I'd say for bar girls for me, 10% told me in the room we don't need a condom another 10% were a second away from putting it in before I said let's put it on. I always use one.
Captain Solo
09-14-19, 07:31
To Scud,
One bad HK session out of ten isn't too bad for me. I got lots of hot sessions and GFEs in Tijuana so I can't complain. I got a lot worse in the US and other countries.
I had some wonderful times in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. I always like Canadians for being nice, gentle and civilized. A few brilliant scientists at GM Research took me to strip bars in Windsor one Friday night. The strippers were mostly petite and pretty French Canadians, looking like HK girls. It's easy to fall in love with them. They walk around with stools so they can do table dance with their crotches aiming at the guys' faces hehe.
The girls in Sosua and Costa Rica are huge and very dark, not attractive to me. Girls in Buenos Aires are older, plain, thick and expensive. I picked up a couple girls and found only 2 or 3 out of 50 young, attractive, sexy worth bagging. The apartment girls are old and chunky. Took a woman from Cafe Orleans. Out of her clothes she looked old, ugly with bad skin and lots of tattoos. She's angry and bitter because Cafe Orleans charges them high fees to hang out and hook guys. Took a woman from Hooks, a pitch-black bar in Centro. In street lights she turned out a wrinkled grandma. Damn. I like Argentinians and her pretty girls a lot, nice, sweet, fun, light-hearted, but the commercial sex scene is bad.
There were half dozen girls, a few young attractive, at the defunct Black or Madaho, upscale clubs in downtown BS As. Cover was $40 and the girls were forbidden to talk to clients until they buy fichas. The girls also want $300 for ST in a depressed economy. Latinas have their pride that's hard to understand. The clubs did little business and shut down. A bro lives half time in BS As and have regular escorts for $100ST sessions, not as attractive as HK girls. I took him to HK one night, he could not believe his eyes, went wild, bagged 3 girls in a couple hours. This veteran monger clearly preferred Tijuana over BS As.
Girls in Rio and Sao Paolo tend to be skanky and ghetto mulattas. They are not attractive to me and can be very rough. I had a good time in Foz do Iquacus in Brazil side, with nice, fun, fresh young girls from the casas, about $60ST. Took an escort from upscale club Krystal for $300ST. She looked hot like a model but her coochie smelled fishy, just ruined the session.
Was in Bangkok a few months ago. Booked an escort and a massage woman. Both were old and rough, not attractive and sexy at all. I had to close my eyes to get the session over with.
The best place for Asian girls is Singapore. The lorongs off Geylang have hundreds girls from all over Asia doing ST for $40 to $50. Bagged 2 Northern Thai girls, both light skinned looking like models. Lots of Chinese, Viets and Malays. Neighbor town Johor Bahru has lots of shy, cherubic Malay girls, even less expensive than Singapore.
I was planning to go to Germany for FKKs this fall, but events delayed it. Quite a few seasoned global mongers have confirmed Tijuana as their favorite place, lots of pretty girls, fun, convenient, low costs ect.
Don't know when you will be in Tijuana. Drop me a PM, may be we can meet for a few drinks.
No question that was a bad break for Solo but from his other posts, he had good sessions too. Not all good and unfortunate that the new pretty ones give the crap.
I am all ears for a better bar and I am happy to have had good times at Adelitas, CC and Trop (I have never scored at Chevales) but the hunt continues.
We have a bar in Mississauga called Café Atlantis. One of a few stripbars where extras can happen. Had a great time there a few occasions so when I travelled to Toronto again I made a point to drop in.
My favorite was not working but wow this pretty girl sat next to me and you know the pitch.
Of course this girl is all over me and after the second song, she whispers that she wants to do more to me.
Boom off we go to a secluded area of the upper floor. I gladly pay $140 cad for a BJ. Then the rules came out and as she applied the condom, I touched it. Well now she has to start all over, it was grueling and I only stayed to see if she would actually put it in her mouth.
My long point is that its not just HK, you transfer the * story to any number of clubs.
I hear great things about Pattaya, Sosua, South America but time and money precludes these places for me.
If I had not found Tijuana I would be roaming Montreal or Toronto.
I sound like a shrill for Tijuana but I am booked to fly again so let the games begin.
Seriously, with 6 days off, I also considered the FKK clubs of Hamburg but the euro is not much better to the Canadian dollar and the jet lag and language. Maybe next time.
If money is the primary factor then Chicago is the worst. But I have had HK waiters stare me down trying to intimidate me into another drink, asked if I wanted a boy instead, and Called me a faggot.
No wonder HK security searches guests so thoroughly for weapons. I would bet that a couple of irritated patrons have been pushed a little too far by waiters and came back to get even.As an aside, iIMHO, security at the door isn't very thorough. If one wanted to they could, depending on who's frisking at the moment, easily access a weapon.
There are runners, then there are racers. Rarely is a woman built for hyper speeds, plus agility and performance. Styles herself after Riley Reid, but blows her away in both looks and performance. I call her The Heart Attack Kid.
First time I met Riley was early this year. Spotted this little bomb and every nerve in my body twitched. So perfectly proportioned and statuesque in likely the smallest frame in the club, that nerve fired every time she moved. I had to go for it. During the ficha she was a bit off standing, but is so hot I went ahead. At 22 yo, at 4'10,98 lbs, has a Geisha tattoo on her upper right arm, an image she aspires to perfect. Caught her at a time when young, new recruits are putty in our hands.
You can tell by her mannerisms she understands she's smoking hot, but instead of being stuck on the fact, she uses it to lavish on you. First off without asking jumped into reverse cowgirl. My favorite! Is this girl psychic? What followed was epic. This girl is so proficient, such a GFE, spent almost two hours with her, broke for drinks, both of us still dripping perspiration downstairs even after showering, then repeating for another two. DFK, loves her nipples given attention, especially the left one. Loves having her perfect little body adored. BBBJ without request. In fact, once when it was getting late, she explained that her ride was already waiting, then proceeded to give me the BJ of my life. I almost hit my head on the ceiling. I kid you not. Immediately after came a cute little giggle. Mission accomplished.
Upstairs never mentions money and is super grateful for the donation and the great sex. Overtime comes without her noticing. Says she's charged by management if she over stays. Once saw her paying off the manager to a big tune, but every time she doesn't seem to mind. Is it me? I think not. But YMMV.
Especially after all the talk on this forum of girls at HK who are all show and no go, I'm very wary. So much so that I opted for Tropical for my second seed when Riley failed to appear the other night. If you spot her, do not hesitate.
Treat her well. She has literally ruined me for other sportin' women.
Captain Solo
09-16-19, 09:47
Saturday night about 9 PM, HK was crowded, not too many hot girls after the hectic long weekend last week. My wingman and I was leaving HK to check out other bars, when Tanya went up dancing on the bar near the front door. She was new. I had never seen her before. Every guy in the room seemed to notice her.
Tanya's a petite blonde girl, about 5 ' 90 lbs, nice, clean, light skin, no tats, with a sweet pretty, babyish face, looking like a movie star, a petite version of Gwynet Paltrow. She was very cute, very attractive in nice, clean, sweet, loving ways. Lots of guys were attracted to her, including my wingman who had been disappointed in HK's talents just a minute before. He got close to the pole, looking up to her adoringly, Inserting dollars after dollars into her black panties. Other guys were also attracted to her, giving her propina.
My wingman asked her name. He was about to pull her for Cascada when a mesero took her hand to take her to 2nd floor to sit with some guys. The mesero was dragging her away from us. My wingman was sulking for missing the opportunity. I told him to go ahead and grab her, now! This wingman has very quick response with anything involving girls and sex, hehe. He immediately grabbed her hand, asked a quick question, and they walked off to Cascada.
I sat at bar Kowloon waiting for wingman to come back. A Mexican monger, sitting next to me, was also attracted to her, asking me how much she wanted. Tanya came back down to the bar very quickly, after like 10 minutes. My wingman had popped 2 other girls before that, so I suspected he may have popped too quickly with her. I came over asking her what happened with my wingman. She seemed upset, frowning, not saying anything.
She was standing next to the North staircase with her winggirl, an equally pretty girl with frizzy blonde hair in her short middle-school plaid skirt. Guys kept hitting on Tanya but not her friend. Guys were unusually attracted to her in HK's long putas history. Another nerdy young guy with crew-cut hair and plastic eye glasses took her to the hotel. She again returned after a quick moment, sitting with her friend at the bar, pouting.
Only later my wingman told me she wanted 4,000 pesos in the room, paying upfront, and would not budge. Judging by her haughty attitude it would likely be and angry and restrictive session anyway. He walked out, leaving her in the room, did not get credit from Cascada. The other bro probably left her the same way with his sticker shock.
Considering HK had more than 100 hot girls that night, a large percentage would be happy to give guys honest, friendly, sexy sessions for 25% of her price, Tanya's 4,000-peso price tag was ridiculous and insulting to guys' intelligence. I was glad they rejected and embarrassed her in the room. Other guys may be paying her that much, but I would let her wait for Bezos to dump his current GF Lauren Sanchez and go to HK to screw girls.
Note: G Paltrow's pic courtesy of Pinterest.
Me and casa. $cien promotion?
San Yasidro Ped: 12 minutes /12 lanes open before 6 lanes in secondary status.
OrganicAlo
09-17-19, 02:05
Any bros gonna be there and want to have a beer or 2?
Scudrucker
09-17-19, 03:13
To the captain.
He did the right thing to walk. To be honest, I would not pay 4000 peso for Ms. Paltrow.
Dangerous precedent to be asking or receiving that much at HK.
I love the report, I hope there is some ficha discussions with her in the future but she may be working the wrong establishment to be throwing out those numbers.
Wow.
ScatManDoo
09-17-19, 04:49
My wingman asked her name. He was about to pull her for Cascada when a mesero took her hand to take her to 2nd floor to sit with some guys. The mesero was dragging her away from us. My wingman was sulking for missing the opportunity. I told him to go ahead and grab her, now! This wingman has very quick response with anything involving girls and sex, hehe. He immediately grabbed her hand, asked a quick question, and they walked off to Cascada.
I sat at bar Kowloon waiting for wingman to come back. A Mexican monger, sitting next to me, was also attracted to her, asking me how much she wanted. Tanya came back down to the bar very quickly, after like 10 minutes. My wingman had popped 2 other girls before that, so I suspected he may have popped too quickly with her. I came over asking her what happened with my wingman. She seemed upset, frowning, not saying anything.
She was standing next to the North staircase with her winggirl, an equally pretty girl with frizzy blonde hair in her short middle-school plaid skirt. Guys kept hitting on Tanya but not her friend. Guys were unusually attracted to her in HK's long putas history. Another nerdy young guy with crew-cut hair and plastic eye glasses took her to the hotel. She again returned after a quick moment, sitting with her friend at the bar, pouting.I started going to LZ in 2004. Mostly going with bar girls in the beginning.
Initially I often passed on buying chicas ladydrinks, because I am cheap & don't speak much Spanish. Numerous times I would approach a bar girl, and simply confirm that they went arriba. I was never turned down (except for one chica in Bar Tropical) but I never walked upstairs with a bar girl without being certain of her required fee. Call me a romantic.
ClamSlammer
09-17-19, 12:31
If money is the primary factor then Chicago is the worst. But I have had HK waiters stare me down trying to intimidate me into another drink, asked if I wanted a boy instead, and Called me a faggot.
No wonder HK security searches guests so thoroughly for weapons. I would bet that a couple of irritated patrons have been pushed a little too far by waiters and came back to get even.I got into a very heated confrontation with HK mesero 135 Ricardo. I was talking to a chica and Ricardo comes by and asks if I want to buy a ficha. I shook my head no. Then he looks at the chica and she nods her head yes. I walk away knowing that he's going to bring a ficha. He comes back with a ficha and I totally ignore him. He proceeds to constantly tap me on the shoulder to try and get me to pay. This dumbass motherfucker knows that I clearly indicated that I wasn't buying a ficha yet he insists I pay. I'm pretty irritated at this point and put my finger within a millimeter of his troll-looking face and screamed at him to leave me alone. So he goes off and tattles to security. The security guy comes and when he gets close enough to see that it's me he just turns around.
BTW I was in CC this Friday and a mesera stole a $10 usd bill off my table right in front of me. She was young, thin, dark hair with a pretty face. Her teeth were jacked though. Beware she's a thief.
When are you going to make it down to Colombia? LOL. Hopefully soon! Hope all is well
To Scud,
One bad HK session out of ten isn't too bad for me. I got lots of hot sessions and GFEs in Tijuana so I can't complain. I got a lot worse in the US and other countries.
I had some wonderful times in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. I always like Canadians for being nice, gentle and civilized. A few brilliant scientists at GM Research took me to strip bars in Windsor one Friday night. The strippers were mostly petite and pretty French Canadians, looking like HK girls. It's easy to fall in love with them. They walk around with stools so they can do table dance with their crotches aiming at the guys' faces hehe.
The girls in Sosua and Costa Rica are huge and very dark, not attractive to me. Girls in Buenos Aires are older, plain, thick and expensive. I picked up a couple girls and found only 2 or 3 out of 50 young, attractive, sexy worth bagging. The apartment girls are old and chunky. Took a woman from Cafe Orleans. Out of her clothes she looked old, ugly with bad skin and lots of tattoos. She's angry and bitter because Cafe Orleans charges them high fees to hang out and hook guys. Took a woman from Hooks, a pitch-black bar in Centro. In street lights she turned out a wrinkled grandma. Damn. I like Argentinians and her pretty girls a lot, nice, sweet, fun, light-hearted, but the commercial sex scene is bad.
There were half dozen girls, a few young attractive, at the defunct Black or Madaho, upscale clubs in downtown BS As. Cover was $40 and the girls were forbidden to talk to clients until they buy fichas. The girls also want $300 for ST in a depressed economy. Latinas have their pride that's hard to understand. The clubs did little business and shut down. A bro lives half time in BS As and have regular escorts for $100ST sessions, not as attractive as HK girls. I took him to HK one night, he could not believe his eyes, went wild, bagged 3 girls in a couple hours. This veteran monger clearly preferred Tijuana over BS As.
Girls in Rio and Sao Paolo tend to be skanky and ghetto mulattas. They are not attractive to me and can be very rough. I had a good time in Foz do Iquacus in Brazil side, with nice, fun, fresh young girls from the casas, about $60ST. Took an escort from upscale club Krystal for $300ST. She looked hot like a model but her coochie smelled fishy, just ruined the session.
Was in Bangkok a few months ago. Booked an escort and a massage woman. Both were old and rough, not attractive and sexy at all. I had to close my eyes to get the session over with.
The best place for Asian girls is Singapore. The lorongs off Geylang have hundreds girls from all over Asia doing ST for $40 to $50. Bagged 2 Northern Thai girls, both light skinned looking like models. Lots of Chinese, Viets and Malays. Neighbor town Johor Bahru has lots of shy, cherubic Malay girls, even less expensive than Singapore.
I was planning to go to Germany for FKKs this fall, but events delayed it. Quite a few seasoned global mongers have confirmed Tijuana as their favorite place, lots of pretty girls, fun, convenient, low costs ect.
Don't know when you will be in Tijuana. Drop me a PM, may be we can meet for a few drinks.
No question that was a bad break for Solo but from his other posts, he had good sessions too. Not all good and unfortunate that the new pretty ones give the crap.
I am all ears for a better bar and I am happy to have had good times at Adelitas, CC and Trop (I have never scored at Chevales) but the hunt continues.
We have a bar in Mississauga called Caf Atlantis. One of a few stripbars where extras can happen. Had a great time there a few occasions so when I travelled to Toronto again I made a point to drop in.
My favorite was not working but wow this pretty girl sat next to me and you know the pitch.
Of course this girl is all over me and after the second song, she whispers that she wants to do more to me.
Boom off we go to a secluded area of the upper floor. I gladly pay $140 cad for a BJ. Then the rules came out and as she applied the condom, I touched it. Well now she has to start all over, it was grueling and I only stayed to see if she would actually put it in her mouth.
My long point is that its not just HK, you transfer the * story to any number of clubs.
I hear great things about Pattaya, Sosua, South America but time and money precludes these places for me.
If I had not found Tijuana I would be roaming Montreal or Toronto.
I sound like a shrill for Tijuana but I am booked to fly again so let the games begin.
Seriously, with 6 days off, I also considered the FKK clubs of Hamburg but the euro is not much better to the Canadian dollar and the jet lag and language. Maybe next time..
GoodQuestions
09-19-19, 01:04
I go to Tijuana to fuck on the cheap, not to engage in meaningful conversations with prostitutes.I check all the boxes with the $160-$180 I exchange to pesos. Tacos, snacks, fichas, fucks, and all that good stuff. I don't know how to be a big spender. I think part of the reason I'm cheap is because I play this hobby like an American monger. Here in LA you go to casas or wherever and after the session you go home. In La Zona I fuck and when I'm done I don't stick around either. The other reason could be cause I've been rejected in trying to exchange $200 from the casas de cambio. Is a hassle going from one to another for my full $200 in pesos. In my last start I wanted to buy my friend a ficha but she would've stayed with me for a long time. That would've cut into my fucking time. The irony is I was upset that the previous chica finished her drink really fast.
OrganicAlo
09-19-19, 15:35
4th trip down to Tijuana with a coworker amigo, finally didn't drink a crazy amount, so I have another memory to write my first report and give back to the community.
Drove down from LA Tuesday morning, parked at Border station parking, 18 $ for 24 hrs.
Crossed through the old crossing, I did not have my passport so I had to pay 20 to cross.
Had to renew my VIP card and I guess they do it at cascades check in now, welp there goes my master suite reservation:
Said there were no master suites available, me and buddy were going to book the penthouse suite, but the reception dude tried to say it was a $200 deposit. It's NOT, did not feel like arguing so settled for a single.
Tuesday was a great day to be there, tons of beautiful young girls I have not seen before, I also think I spotted the cute petite blonde that at captain mentioned, man she was hot.
Had a few beers, tipped some of the dancers, and I set my eyes on one of the shave foam girls, she looked like she'd be fun and I've seen her there every time I've gone, we have always made eye contact.
After the show I offered her a beer, she hardly spoke any English, I speak a little Spanish, but most communication was through her app. I bought her 2 drinks and she babied them, making both last a total of at least 30 minutes. She said 80 upstairs, I countered setenta y propina and off we went. She was probably a 7, but a really cool girl, up in the room, CBJ, cowgirl, mish, and finished in doggie. No besos but no problem sex was good and she was nice. We finished at about 25 minutes or so, showered, and she hung out for another 30 minutes or so, took some shots of tequila and were listening to some music talking. I got her number, first Tijuana number I got, definitely going to set something up with her when I visit next month. Before we went back down, I gave her 70 plus 10 usd and 200 pesos for tip, I really liked this girl, and don't mind tipping good if the girls deserve it. Walked her down, said our goodbyes, she gave me a kiss and it was time to meet up with my buddy for an early dinner.
Went to caesers to try that caeser salad, and some may disagree, but I think the food there was fantastic and it was decently priced for the kind of restaurant. I had the Caesar salad and spaghetti bolognese and my buddy got the caeser and fettuccine, both really good. Bill came out to only 40 usd including a tip. Went back to Cascadas to freshen up before heading back down.
Got back to HK at around 9 pm, the place was definitely starting to fill up. I should have had a red bull sometime through out the night, I was getting sleepy and beer and water was not helping. My buddy left me at about 11 pm to do his own thing, and I just hung out around the main stage tipping the dances for most of the night. They brought one of the main stage chairs up on the stage and were bringing dudes up to get shots and lap dances blind flooded by an OK milk and a big dude with a half black / white beard. LOL pretty crazy show.
At about midnight I was on my way up to my room, when this Filipina girl touched my arm. I took this same girl up back in April on my first trip. I recognized her immediately, and decided I'd buy her a drink, she's cute and nice. She's a little bit shy, so we only talked during the ficha, I vibe with her tho so I decided I'd end up the night with an arriba. Sex was nothing spectacular, probably won't repeat with her again, session was ok, she doesn't rush, or ask for payment up front. Just feel like there is better value out there for that ochenta price tag.
Now back to my room, the Cascadas reception guy was a real prick for this one, not only did he not honor my reservation, but he gave me one of the absolute worse rooms on the 6th floor, 634. I knocked at about 1 am and remember waking up at about every hour with TONS of commotion going on outside my room all night long from employees chatting right outside my room, drunk dudes, and chica heels clackin on through the night. The room was also right outside the window that is above Coahuilla, the noise didn't stop til about 5 am, I thought I was going to lose my mind LOL.
Woke up at about 7 am, hardly got any sleep, but did not feel too hungover; good thing I drink all that water. My buddy and I went to this breakfast spot we had on my first trip called La Espadana. This place has great breakfast, some of the bros should check it out sometime. I got the chillquilles, big breakfast w / that cinnamon coffee for about 100 pesos, then we were off to HK to chill before we had to leave at about noon.
Got into HK at about 930-10 am and the place was already lively, lots of nice looking girls for the morning, and of course, the older sharky chicas making their rounds. I didn't feel like taking any girls up that morning, although there was one I really wanted to, young, petite, very cute. She solicited me as I was tipping her on the stages that are right next to the main stage. "80 for you babeeeee" Fuck I wanted to take this girl up, but told her I'll be back sometime next month and I hope I see her than. I remember she had a crown tattooed on her right ass chick. Just wanted to catch a buzz and tip and' feel some of the girls. Caught a cool buzz, tipped and' touched lots of tits and' ass that morning haha; Maybe 15-20 different sets in 2 hrs.
Unfortunately, the time came, and we had to head back home Was a great trip, celebrating for my birthday LOL. Will be 23 tonight!
Anyways, I'm planning on heading down again Oct. 22nd, it's a Tuesday. If any bros want to grab a brew and' chat for a bit let me know.
I've recognized some of the same dudes from every time I've gone, so I know ya'll are out there. Would be cool to chat up with one of the vets'.
Got similar issues 2-3 times too.
This is not unusual.
I got into a very heated confrontation with HK mesero 135 Ricardo. I was talking to a chica and Ricardo comes by and asks if I want to buy a ficha. I shook my head no. Then he looks at the chica and she nods her head yes. I walk away knowing that he's going to bring a ficha. He comes back with a ficha and I totally ignore him. He proceeds to constantly tap me on the shoulder to try and get me to pay. This dumbass motherfucker knows that I clearly indicated that I wasn't buying a ficha yet he insists I pay. I'm pretty irritated at this point and put my finger within a millimeter of his troll-looking face and screamed at him to leave me alone. So he goes off and tattles to security. The security guy comes and when he gets close enough to see that it's me he just turns around.
BTW I was in CC this Friday and a mesera stole a $10 usd bill off my table right in front of me. She was young, thin, dark hair with a pretty face. Her teeth were jacked though. Beware she's a thief.
4th trip down to Tijuana with a coworker amigo, finally didn't drink a crazy amount, so I have another memory to write my first report and give back to the community.
Drove down from LA Tuesday morning, parked at Border station parking, 18 $ for 24 hrs.
Crossed through the old crossing, I did not have my passport so I had to pay 20 to cross.
Had to renew my VIP card and I guess they do it at cascades check in now, welp there goes my master suite reservation:
Said there were no master suites available, me and buddy were going to book the penthouse suite, but the reception dude tried to say it was a $200 deposit. It's NOT, did not feel like arguing so settled for a single.
Tuesday was a great day to be there, tons of beautiful young girls I have not seen before, I also think I spotted the cute petite blonde that at captain mentioned, man she was hot.
Had a few beers, tipped some of the dancers, and I set my eyes on one of the shave foam girls, she looked like she'd be fun and I've seen her there every time I've gone, we have always made eye contact..I wish guys would stop with the tipping. Because I don't tip for sex and it makes them angry after when they realize. The thing is, she's a prostitute, the whole thing is her money. Tip the waiter, tip the hotel cleaning crew. Why tell a girl you won't pay 80 for sex, but you will pay 70 and then 20 for tips. I guess I have to start telling the girls ahead of time " how much with tip included". I would also never take a girl upstairs if she's not already kissing me downstairs. At least not now since I have the experience of one complete dud, and two semi duds. I guess I'm way cheaper because I go very often. I stopped wasting money in other areas just for zona Norte.
I got into a very heated confrontation with HK mesero 135 Ricardo. I was talking to a chica and Ricardo comes by and asks if I want to buy a ficha. I shook my head no. Then he looks at the chica and she nods her head yes. I walk away knowing that he's going to bring a ficha. He comes back with a ficha and I totally ignore him. He proceeds to constantly tap me on the shoulder to try and get me to pay. This dumbass motherfucker knows that I clearly indicated that I wasn't buying a ficha yet he insists I pay. I'm pretty irritated at this point and put my finger within a millimeter of his troll-looking face and screamed at him to leave me alone. So he goes off and tattles to security. The security guy comes and when he gets close enough to see that it's me he just turns around.
BTW I was in CC this Friday and a mesera stole a $10 usd bill off my table right in front of me. She was young, thin, dark hair with a pretty face. Her teeth were jacked though. Beware she's a thief.Pick your poison:
HK waiters are thugs.
CC waiters are pick-pocketers.
MexiMonger
09-20-19, 03:00
4th trip down to Tijuana with a coworker amigo, finally didn't drink a crazy amount, so I have another memory to write my first report and give back to the community.
Drove down from LA Tuesday morning, parked at Border station parking, 18 $ for 24 hrs.
Crossed through the old crossing, I did not have my passport so I had to pay 20 to cross.
Had to renew my VIP card and I guess they do it at cascades check in now, welp there goes my master suite reservation:
Said there were no master suites available, me and buddy were going to book the penthouse suite, but the reception dude tried to say it was a $200 deposit. It's NOT, did not feel like arguing so settled for a single.
Tuesday was a great day to be there, tons of beautiful young girls I have not seen before, I also think I spotted the cute petite blonde that at captain mentioned, man she was hot.'.Will be in Tijuana next week and my VIP has expired, so would you please tell me: VIP cards are now bought at Cascadas's front desk instead of HK's front desk? Or was this just a one time thing.
Thanks.
BTW any mongers next weekend?
OrganicAlo
09-20-19, 15:24
I wish guys would stop with the tipping. Because I don't tip for sex and it makes them angry after when they realize. The thing is, she's a prostitute, the whole thing is her money. Tip the waiter, tip the hotel cleaning crew. Why tell a girl you won't pay 80 for sex, but you will pay 70 and then 20 for tips. I guess I have to start telling the girls ahead of time " how much with tip included". I would also never take a girl upstairs if she's not already kissing me downstairs. At least not now since I have the experience of one complete dud, and two semi duds. I guess I'm way cheaper because I go very often. I stopped wasting money in other areas just for zona Norte.It's still cheaper than what some guys are paying there, plus I get the benefactor of leaving a "tip". If she didn't give good service it would have been just 70, it's an incentive for the chica. Most of them ask for a tip anyways.
OrganicAlo
09-20-19, 15:25
Will be in Tijuana next week and my VIP has expired, so would you please tell me: VIP cards are now bought at Cascadas's front desk instead of HK's front desk? Or was this just a one time thing.
Thanks.
BTW any mongers next weekend?Not sure, but when I tried to walk in with my bag I told security I was just buying VIP, he told me the VIP guy will meet me at Cascadas reception.
Baxter Slade
09-20-19, 15:52
I wish guys would stop with the tipping. Because I don't tip for sex and it makes them angry after when they realize. The thing is, she's a prostitute, the whole thing is her money. Tip the waiter, tip the hotel cleaning crew. Why tell a girl you won't pay 80 for sex, but you will pay 70 and then 20 for tips. I guess I have to start telling the girls ahead of time " how much with tip included". I would also never take a girl upstairs if she's not already kissing me downstairs. At least not now since I have the experience of one complete dud, and two semi duds. I guess I'm way cheaper because I go very often. I stopped wasting money in other areas just for zona Norte.I guess the only reason to mention a posible tip is to entice them to perform better. Some of these girls can pour it on in the club and once the deal is struck and they are upstairs they lose the incentive to perform.
Now if they were smart they would perform great just in the name of customer service and gaining repeat business. But this is Mexico where most do not understand the concept of customer service.
Will be in Tijuana next week and my VIP has expired, so would you please tell me: VIP cards are now bought at Cascadas's front desk instead of HK's front desk? Or was this just a one time thing.
Thanks.
BTW any mongers next weekend?Cascadas front desk if you're coming in the afternoon. HK front desk if you're coming late at night.
ScatManDoo
09-20-19, 19:44
Had to renew my VIP card and I guess they do it at cascades check in now, welp there goes my master suite reservation:
Said there were no master suites available, me and buddy were going to book the penthouse suite, but the reception dude tried to say it was a $200 deposit. It's NOT, did not feel like arguing so settled for a single.
Not sure, but when I tried to walk in with my bag I told security I was just buying VIP, he told me the VIP guy will meet me at Cascadas reception.Multiple times guys have shown up at Cascades with a prior Master Suite reservation on a Monday or Tuesday Night.
When they ask for their reserved MS room without disclosing they possess a HK VIP card, the reservations seem to be honored.
And when the Cascades desk clerk is aware of the VIP card early in "check in" process, those MS reservations always seem to vaporize.
OrganticAlo's experience with this process, to me, just confirms this Cascades 'slight of hand' shittery.
When he shows up on a Tuesday night at the HK customer service desk with luggage in hand, and asks to purchase a HK VIP card.
They change the process of buying the VIP card, so that the Cascades front desk is made aware that he will be presenting the VIP card.
Reviews on a couple of newish chicks at HK.
Sylvana or something similar. Insists on $100. Looks: 10. Tall slim hot body with nice big natural tits, no tattoos, beautiful face, nice hair. Wears short skirts and bikini tops at the club. Service: 6. Will waste 15 minutes showering and engaging in other crap before session and then will try to stop you from touching her tits and puss. You'll get a competent CBJ and CFS to completion and that earns her a 6. Worth banging once because she is so hot but no reason to repeat. Well ask for a teep. No pictures (maybe for a teep).
Dalil or something similar. Insists on $100 and being paid upfront. Looks: 9. Tall and very thin cute chica with some BD and tattoos but nothing boner shattering. Service: 8. Nice friendly and accommodating. Great CBJ and CFS to completion. OK with pics. Nice combination of looks and service.
Saw a couple of other cute slim new chicas.
To Scud,
The girls in Sosua and Costa Rica are huge and very dark, not attractive to me. Girls in Buenos Aires are older, plain, thick and expensive. I picked up a couple girls and found only 2 or 3 out of 50 young, attractive, sexy worth bagging. The apartment girls are old and chunky. Took a woman from Cafe Orleans. Out of her clothes she looked old, ugly with bad skin and lots of tattoos. She's angry and bitter because Cafe Orleans charges them high fees to hang out and hook guys. Took a woman from Hooks, a pitch-black bar in Centro. In street lights she turned out a wrinkled grandma. Damn. I like Argentinians and her pretty girls a lot, nice, sweet, fun, light-hearted, but the commercial sex scene is bad.
Girls in Rio and Sao Paolo tend to be skanky and ghetto mulattas. They are not attractive to me and can be very rough. I had a good time in Foz do Iquacus in Brazil side, with nice, fun, fresh young girls from the casas, about $60ST. Took an escort from upscale club Krystal for $300ST. She looked hot like a model but her coochie smelled fishy, just ruined the session..Solo,
I think you missed a few things Riois the place to go for unbashed PSE sex and you can find hot bootylicious girls there but not sure where you are going for such poor quality, seems like you are finding the multas from the RIO that come in.
As far as BKK this is a mongers paradise from chang mai all the way down to Krabi. I have had maximum type girls over on Rachada and even uni girls from tamashat university. I would never order online they don't match, BKK is a city where you hunt on your feet not your phone. But what is great we all have our style of play and that what makes mongering great. Be safe and have fund.
DGL.
Captain Solo
09-21-19, 01:03
To DGL,
Most times I had only a few days in locations, not enough to go into depth.
In Rio's bars, Barbarella had the hottest girls. I took a tall girl back to the apartment. She gave me an average session then demanded more money, screaming policias. I had to pushy her out the door and called security guards to get rid of her hehe.
The CIA escort was young and pretty hot with her fake curly blonde hair. We drank, smoked, danced, partied, sex in any position, but she was not happy, playful, trusting, loving like Argentinian girls. Brazilians are pretty hardened compared to Argentinians. I ran into an American porn producer in Rio, promised to hook me up with Victoria Secrets models. Will use his contact next time. Also met an American working for State Department with local ties. He took me places and went to the Carnaval. A very nice and fun guy.
In Bangkok I took a bar girl from Soi Cowboy. She was beautiful, her skin soft and smooth, the only girl I liked in Thailand. I paid for an all nighter but she slipped right out of the room after the first shot. Damn. I would go to Singapore for Asian girls. Lots of girls in Geylang, some very hot ones from Chang Mai and Chang Rai, also from China.
I have a contact with an ISG bro living in Medellin, Colombia. Have to try that place next.
Was recently at HK for the first. Anyone know the name of the light skin (thought she was white) girl with the long green hair. She does shaving cream shows almost every night. Rocked my world. Want to know who to ask for next time and my Spanish is total shit and I was pretty drunk.
After several sessions at HK, some bad, some so-so, and one great one, I am still in search of a somewhat reliable way to suss out whether the session will be good before going upstairs. I've read the forum a bit, and have tried buying the girl a drink and gauging the vibe, but somehow, I feel like I might be doing something wrong.
All my bad sessions had something in common: while I am sitting with the girl, her drink in front of her, the vibe just doesn't feel right. Sometimes they are very transactional, where they seem to pressure you to go up as fast as possible. Other times, it feels like the vibe is flat, like you're basically talking about the weather and boring small talk. The transactional ones I just dismiss, an easy filter. However, in the flat vibe case, I can't help but feel that I might be partially at fault in creating that situation. Maybe there is something I could do better in creating a more sexually charged vibe that would translate into a good session?
The one time I had a good session, I remember the vibe downstairs was incredibly sexual, but I admittedly did little to create this; the girl just got into it without me really prompting it. While seated at a table, she started giving me a lap dance and pulling my hands onto her body. I could really feel like we were developing chemistry. So when we went upstairs, I would find it to be the best session I had ever had at HK.
I'm basically trying to find a way to increase my rate of good sessions. I'm willing to accept that some sessions will just be bad and you'd have no way of knowing, but if I can have at least 2 good sessions for every 1 bad / mediocre session, I would be reasonably happy.
Does anyone have any tips on how to transition from a flat, small talk vibe, to creating a better, more sexual vibe while you are sitting with the girl downstairs? A part of me has a feeling that this piece is in large part in your control, and it has a very strong bearing on the outcome of your sessions.
Packed Friday night again. Lots of new chicas. Had a great time until I ran into HK Thug 113.
He stands guard in the 3rd floor. Comes over when my waiter left his shift and tells me that I have to buy a drink from him. I said not from him and he said something to my girl. She leaves. I spent 5 drinks on her and she left because she is too new to know better.
In a more civilized country, Thug 113 and me and Mr Smith & Wesson would have a mediation. But we are in Hong Kong, so I took my wallet to Adelinas. For now.
OrganicAlo
09-21-19, 18:00
Was recently at HK for the first. Anyone know the name of the light skin (thought she was white) girl with the long green hair. She does shaving cream shows almost every night. Rocked my world. Want to know who to ask for next time and my Spanish is total shit and I was pretty drunk.I think I seen her there last Tuesday, thought she was a gringa also. Did she have like yellow dyed buns?
After several sessions at HK, some bad, some so-so, and one great one, I am still in search of a somewhat reliable way to suss out whether the session will be good before going upstairs. I've read the forum a bit, and have tried buying the girl a drink and gauging the vibe, but somehow, I feel like I might be doing something wrong.
All my bad sessions had something in common: while I am sitting with the girl, her drink in front of her, the vibe just doesn't feel right. Sometimes they are very transactional, where they seem to pressure you to go up as fast as possible. Other times, it feels like the vibe is flat, like you're basically talking about the weather and boring small talk. The transactional ones I just dismiss, an easy filter. However, in the flat vibe case, I can't help but feel that I might be partially at fault in creating that situation. Maybe there is something I could do better in creating a more sexually charged vibe that would translate into a good session?
The one time I had a good session, I remember the vibe downstairs was incredibly sexual, but I admittedly did little to create this; the girl just got into it without me really prompting it. While seated at a table, she started giving me a lap dance and pulling my hands onto her body. I could really feel like we were developing chemistry. So when we went upstairs, I would find it to be the best session I had ever had at HK.
I'm basically trying to find a way to increase my rate of good sessions. I'm willing to accept that some sessions will just be bad and you'd have no way of knowing, but if I can have at least 2 good sessions for every 1 bad / mediocre session, I would be reasonably happy.
Does anyone have any tips on how to transition from a flat, small talk vibe, to creating a better, more sexual vibe while you are sitting with the girl downstairs? A part of me has a feeling that this piece is in large part in your control, and it has a very strong bearing on the outcome of your sessions.Tip 1: Learn Spanish. My trips to the clubs increased exponentially the more Spanish I learned. You communicate better, you negotiate better, the experience is better.
Tip 2: Don't treat it like a "mission. " Gringos show up for the express purpose of getting laid. There entire MO is to show up, find a girl, screw, repeat as necessary. Mexicans tend to have a more relaxed party vibe, and the girls are accessories. In other words, take you time, relax, talk, joke, drink, feel, kiss, whatever. It's not a panacea but I've found that it increases your odds. If you don't click, you'll know after the first 15 minutes or so. Then move on.
Tip 3: Probably the most important. GTFO of HK Club. Better sessions, overall, are much more common in other clubs.
Reviews on a couple of newish chicks at HK.
Sylvana or something similar. Insists on $100. Looks: 10. Tall slim hot body with nice big natural tits, no tattoos, beautiful face, nice hair. Wears short skirts and bikini tops at the club. Service: 6. Will waste 15 minutes showering and engaging in other crap before session and then will try to stop you from touching her tits and puss. You'll get a competent CBJ and CFS to completion and that earns her a 6. Worth banging once because she is so hot but no reason to repeat. Well ask for a teep. No pictures (maybe for a teep).
Saw a couple of other cute slim new chicas.Thanks for your report on Sylvana with long limbs. I'm thinking about taking her up because she looks good but I guess I'll find another chica.
I noticed advertising in Hong Kong club. Halloween party will be on Thursday, October 31.
Was recently at HK for the first. Anyone know the name of the light skin (thought she was white) girl with the long green hair. She does shaving cream shows almost every night. Rocked my world. Want to know who to ask for next time and my Spanish is total shit and I was pretty drunk.I forgot her name. She's a Tijuana native. Used to have a pink hair when she first started. Don't worry you'll bump into her again next time, she's there a lot.
Rock your world? Please elaborate, because she didn't rock my world. Hehe.
I think I seen her there last Tuesday, thought she was a gringa also. Did she have like yellow dyed buns?Yes. That's her. She told me she was from Tijuana and has been working there 8 months.
Tip 1: Learn Spanish. My trips to the clubs increased exponentially the more Spanish I learned. You communicate better, you negotiate better, the experience is better.Yes, this is good advice. I should definitely brush up on my Spanish more.
Tip 2: Don't treat it like a "mission. " Gringos show up for the express purpose of getting laid. There entire MO is to show up, find a girl, screw, repeat as necessary. Mexicans tend to have a more relaxed party vibe, and the girls are accessories. In other words, take you time, relax, talk, joke, drink, feel, kiss, whatever. It's not a panacea but I've found that it increases your odds. If you don't click, you'll know after the first 15 minutes or so. Then move on.I think this is spot on. I definitely have a "mission" mindset. However, I think what you touched on is the essence of my question, which is 'what specific things would you say or do in the relaxed party vibe?' I think I just have a lot of trouble creating this relaxed party vibe. Do you have any examples of what topics you'd talk about? Or an example of a joke you'd tell them? I just want to get a sense for the specific behaviors you'd need to have in order to exhibit this vibe.
Tip 3: Probably the most important. GTFO of HK Club. Better sessions, overall, are much more common in other clubs.I am intrigued. What other places would you recommend? I saw Adelita, Tropical, and Chicago. Adelita seemed pretty good on Friday, but I didn't end up trying anything. Tropical and Chicago both seemed incredibly dead.
I forgot her name. She's a Tijuana native. Used to have a pink hair when she first started. Don't worry you'll bump into her again next time, she's there a lot.
Rock your world? Please elaborate, because she didn't rock my world. Hehe.Sounds like Elvira. She didn't rock my world either. We made out a bunch downstairs but she's not great at screwing IMO. She's got a tranny BF, BTW.
OrganicAlo
09-22-19, 15:37
I forgot her name. She's a Tijuana native. Used to have a pink hair when she first started. Don't worry you'll bump into her again next time, she's there a lot.
Rock your world? Please elaborate, because she didn't rock my world. Hehe.Yes, please elaborate. I was tipping her on stage and she didn't seem she like to be touched much for a dollar haha.
DramaFree11
09-22-19, 23:26
Been working a lot and had vacation with my dad. I need some fun. Booked a flight to San Diego and wow what a night. One of my regulars was running late, I see this hot girl from M. City. We went and had a drink and I was hoping the 2 girls would hit it off and I was correct. We had a 45 session. Then all of sudden the girl from M. City asked for more and the girls went at it again. What a night!
DramaFree11
09-22-19, 23:32
Changes I have made:
1. Take advantage of VIP card.
2. Always Rent a room.
3. I started making relationships with staff and security. I tip, but nothing' over the top.
4. Take girls to Azul.
5. Almost never deal with the waiters, I am nice to them, but most just get in the way.
6. Only deal with the bartenders.
7. If I find a good girls get her number and have Threesomes.
KC Questor
09-23-19, 02:44
I think what you touched on is the essence of my question, which is 'what specific things would you say or do in the relaxed party vibe?' I think I just have a lot of trouble creating this relaxed party vibe. Do you have any examples of what topics you'd talk about? Or an example of a joke you'd tell them? I just want to get a sense for the specific behaviors you'd need to have in order to exhibit this vibe.I also wonder what guys talk about with the girls, especially the ones who ficha one girl for hours. I mean, you can't really talk about her job ("How many guys did you screw this week? Wow, you must be really tired! How long have you been fucking guys for money?"). You can ask a bit about her history, like where else she has worked and how she likes working in Hong Kong, but it can get really uncomfortable if you are pressing her on her puta work. You can ask about where she is from, but most of them don't really want to talk about their home towns beyond really basic stuff ("Oh, Puerto Vallarta? Es bonita? Hay muchas mariscos aqui. Me gusta comer los mariscos!"). I've tried asking about Tijuana, and where I should go and what I should do, but many of the girls are not from Tijuana and have very limited experience with being a tourist.
I've had the best luck just opening up my phone and sharing photos of my travels and my family. I don't have kids so I talk about my nieces and nephews. The girls are usually interested in America, and they pretend to be interested in me, so we can at least keep the conversation going. Usually they will pull out their phone and share pictures of their family and hometown. So it can be fun, but it drains your phone battery fast!
I also wonder what guys talk about with the girls, especially the ones who ficha one girl for hours. I mean, you can't really talk about her job ("How many guys did you screw this week? Wow, you must be really tired! How long have you been fucking guys for money?"). You can ask a bit about her history, like where else she has worked and how she likes working in Hong Kong, but it can get really uncomfortable if you are pressing her on her puta work. You can ask about where she is from, but most of them don't really want to talk about their home towns beyond really basic stuff ("Oh, Puerto Vallarta? Es bonita? Hay muchas mariscos aqui. Me gusta comer los mariscos!"). I've tried asking about Tijuana, and where I should go and what I should do, but many of the girls are not from Tijuana and have very limited experience with being a tourist.
I've had the best luck just opening up my phone and sharing photos of my travels and my family. I don't have kids so I talk about my nieces and nephews. The girls are usually interested in America, and they pretend to be interested in me, so we can at least keep the conversation going. Usually they will pull out their phone and share pictures of their family and hometown. So it can be fun, but it drains your phone battery fast!Yes, this is exactly what I am talking about. I see girls just sit with guys for a long time, and I'm confused. They must be telling some elaborate jokes or telling stories in Spanish. But c'mon. I am willing to bet that not every gringo with a girl at their table for a long time can speak Spanish that well. There's got to be something they're saying or doing right, probably in English, that I'm not. Also interesting are the ones that get the girls to start kissing them or dancing all up on them.
You can just sit around and watch other guys with girls at their tables and sort of tell which ones seem to have chemistry and which ones don't. I'd say a good majority have chemistry because otherwise the chances of seeing the girl at their table would be low. If there was no chemistry, the girl would probably have left already.
It's also probably not about looks either because I see plenty of not conventionally attractive older dudes seeming to get along fine with the girls. So it must be something they are saying and doing. Can anyone else here shed some light on this mystery? What have you guys specifically said or done to create chemistry with the girls?
Captain Solo
09-23-19, 14:07
Hk puts yellow wrist bands on civie girls so meseros won't pushing expensive ficha drinks on them. Most party in the club, watch strip shows with their BFs or lesbian partners. But last couple weeks I ran into a few unattached girls who acted unusual.
Sunday night 3 girls were sitting quietly in a booth in the corner watching the strip show. One was above average, the rest plain and chunky. They sat quietly not talking to anyone. Later they decided to leave. Outside they were shepherded into an UBER by a big, black guy, acting like their business manager or pimp. I was pretty sure the guy was trying to pimp them out in HK but competition was stiff and they could not make inroad.
2 young blondes in shorts and Ts, one very attractive, one homely, asked me for cigarettes. She said she's 19 from Huntington Beach. I asked her if she wanted to find a table to sit down; she nodded. But then she separated from me and started flirting with other guys. She was running from one group of guys to the next, flirting wildly. Her friend sat quietly at a table with some guys but they would not buy her drinks. Eventually they disappeared out of the club. I should have accosted her aggressively, offered her drinks, food and taken her to the hotel. I missed out on a very good opportunity with this girl.
Dcrist0527
09-23-19, 15:22
I also wonder what guys talk about with the girls, especially the ones who ficha one girl for hours. I mean, you can't really talk about her job ("How many guys did you screw this week? Wow, you must be really tired! How long have you been fucking guys for money?"). You can ask a bit about her history, like where else she has worked and how she likes working in Hong Kong, but it can get really uncomfortable if you are pressing her on her puta work. You can ask about where she is from, but most of them don't really want to talk about their home towns beyond really basic stuff ("Oh, Puerto Vallarta? Es bonita? Hay muchas mariscos aqui. Me gusta comer los mariscos!"). I've tried asking about Tijuana, and where I should go and what I should do, but many of the girls are not from Tijuana and have very limited experience with being a tourist.
I've had the best luck just opening up my phone and sharing photos of my travels and my family. I don't have kids so I talk about my nieces and nephews. The girls are usually interested in America, and they pretend to be interested in me, so we can at least keep the conversation going. Usually they will pull out their phone and share pictures of their family and hometown. So it can be fun, but it drains your phone battery fast!I have found better results when they talk, not me. Family is very important to most of them and they can talk for hours. And some have some very interesting stories. Many will just feed you BS stories about why they need help but you'll be able to sniff out the BS pretty quickly. I would say that one of three conversations go very well, lead to great arribas and friendships, if you so choose. I have 3 current girls I stay in contact with regularly. And for those cynics, no, I don't send them a dollar.
As I said, 2 of 3 go bad. But, I'm out 15 minutes and a ficha? That's the cost of doing business and keeps me from sinking $70 or $80 into a bad experience.
But the best advice I would give is ask open ended questions. Believe it or not, there are honest girls there. They are certainly the minority. But, I enjoy the search.
Sounds like Elvira. She didn't rock my world either. We made out a bunch downstairs but she's not great at screwing IMO. She's got a tranny BF, BTW.Yes, that's her name!
I've seen her BF in HK before.
Yes, this is good advice. I should definitely brush up on my Spanish more.
I think this is spot on. I definitely have a "mission" mindset. However, I think what you touched on is the essence of my question, which is 'what specific things would you say or do in the relaxed party vibe?' I think I just have a lot of trouble creating this relaxed party vibe. Do you have any examples of what topics you'd talk about? Or an example of a joke you'd tell them? I just want to get a sense for the specific behaviors you'd need to have in order to exhibit this vibe.
I am intrigued. What other places would you recommend? I saw Adelita, Tropical, and Chicago. Adelita seemed pretty good on Friday, but I didn't end up trying anything. Tropical and Chicago both seemed incredibly dead.I think you're overthinking this. But, first and foremost, you have to work on you. Spanish is mandatory if you're going to hang with a chica for any amount of time. You don't have to be fluent, but sitting at a table having a staring contest, or futzing with Google Translate all night, is nobody's idea of fun. Also, you have to present yourself as the "relaxed, party vibe" kind of guy. This only comes from experience. The more you travel, the more bars in the zona you visit, etc. , etc. , the more experience you have and that translates into more confidence. The party starts with you.
Next, the girls. That's the easy part. There is no magic word or phrase that turns them from stand-offish to get-down-with-yo-bad-self. The girl has no idea what you want to happen. It's up to you to initiate. It's up to you to make them feel comfortable. How? That's easy. They are women, and they are Mexicanas. You don't talk about their work, as to most Mexicans work is simply a means to an end. You start talking about their kids. Their family. Are the kids in school? Where? Who cares for them? Essentially, you do NOT talk about you (yes, you're the one paying but you're after more than a quick screw). You make THEM the center of your attention and you talk about what THEY like to talk about. You talk about their city. If you've traveled (and you really need to) you can compare notes. Oh, Morelia? I've been to Uruapan, which is close. How do the two compare? With a bit of Spanish, a bit of imagination, and a bit of patience, anybody can chat with a BG for at least an hour. You will learn all sorts of things, some you wish you didn't know. Let me give one caveat. If you want to have a conversation with one, you need to choose one with something to talk about. Everybody wants to screw a 19 why / o hottie. Unfortunately, a 19 why / o hottie has absolutely nothing of any value to say. You'll need to choose the "older" ones, say 25 and up. Assuming that you are not 19 yourself.
Concerning the fun and dancing at the table, that tends to vary by girl. Some are really into the party vibe and, for a few drinks, will have fun. Some are more tranquil and prefer the "soft sell. " You can encourage the party behavior by chatting them up, buying a ficha, or two, and saying "ven aca. " Come here. If she doesn't get the hint, revert to Plan be or cut your losses and move on. But, generally speaking, most who work in these places don't mind a bit of bump and grind. But your body language has to show that you are open to it. Sitting with a deer-in-the-headlights expression, body stiff as a board, sour look on your face, whatever, signals that you're not receptive.
There are loads of other bars. The ones you named, and others. If you're looking to improve your Spanish and carry on a conversation, I recommend a quieter place. I find it tough to converse in the raucous atmosphere of HK on a weekend. A "dead" bar is excellent hunting grounds. Unless you absolutely have to have a rowdy atmosphere. But if you're trying to learn the ropes, and learn Spanish, the rowdy places are not conducive to such. Start with a "dead" Chicago and work your way up.
To finish up, I'll give two random personal illustrations. I used to frequent the Thai beer bars, as I prefer the vibe to the go-go joints. I know the girls love to dance, but tend to hate a lot of Western music that the old farts like to listen to. So, I mixed up a CD with some Reggaeton, English-language dance music, and Thai Pop. Then I would choose a place. Typically they are playing some mix of 70's Pop, or elevator music, or some nonsense. I'm just another farang. I'd sit down, order a beer, and after a bit ask the bartender to try my CD. If they hated it, no harm, no hurt feelings. Just toss it. Well, they never tossed it. After blasting out some Flo-Rida, or Daddy Yankee, or Thongchai, the party well and truly started. Suddenly the random farang is a party guy after all.
The other was in a bar in Tijuana, outside the Zona. I was waiting for a friend to finish an appointment and had some time to kill. I sat at the bar and, eventually, was hesitantly approached by a curvy young lady. I replied in Spanish, she suddenly felt totally relieved, and told me so. She was so hesitant to approach an obvious gringo because her English was extremely limited, and everybody knows that gringos don't speak Spanish. We had a nice time over a few beers and then I bailed.
My points are that this works. If you're out to have a good time, if you can figure out what the girls like in order to get them to relax, you have much better experiences. You'll get laid at the end, if you choose. Sure, it will cost you more than just waking in and saying "sucky-fucky how much?" But you've gained valuable experience for the next time.
TunaSlayer
09-23-19, 19:53
Response to captain.
Most of my interactions with civie girls have not been too good but I do see them in there once in a awhile. It appears to me that they are working girls but the competition in HK is stiff. They always look overwhelmed. I was chatting up with a civie girl by the bar in the back, bought her couple drinks but I wasn't feeling the vibe. Made eye contact with a blonde w / Phat ass in a g string and she came over and was giving me a lap dance right in front of the other chick. Ditched the plain clothes girl for the big bootie. Later on sitting at a table, the civie girl and her friend walk by and dropped a drink on my girl. Maybe it was a mistake but I've seen this happen more than once. Maybe it was my fault the way I handled it but now if she ain't half naked I ain't talking to her. Similar situation happened back in March over a table. But if anyone else has a good experience with civie girls in HK please share.
After several sessions at HK, some bad, some so-so, and one great one, I am still in search of a somewhat reliable way to suss out whether the session will be good before going upstairs. I've read the forum a bit, and have tried buying the girl a drink and gauging the vibe, but somehow, I feel like I might be doing something wrong.
All my bad sessions had something in common: while I am sitting with the girl, her drink in front of her, the vibe just doesn't feel right. Sometimes they are very transactional, where they seem to pressure you to go up as fast as possible. Other times, it feels like the vibe is flat, like you're basically talking about the weather and boring small talk. The transactional ones I just dismiss, an easy filter. However, in the flat vibe case, I can't help but feel that I might be partially at fault in creating that situation. Maybe there is something I could do better in creating a more sexually charged vibe that would translate into a good session?
The one time I had a good session, I remember the vibe downstairs was incredibly sexual, but I admittedly did little to create this; the girl just got into it without me really prompting it. While seated at a table, she started giving me a lap dance and pulling my hands onto her body. I could really feel like we were developing chemistry. So when we went upstairs, I would find it to be the best session I had ever had at HK..Very easy bro. You traveled thousands miles (maybe) to bang chicks. Don't buy her a drink instantly. Wait for a girl that talks to you for a minute for free. Buy that girl a drink. Then you tell her how sexy she is while running your hands all over her otherwise she thinks your gay or not attracted to her. Then you tell her how pretty she is and look at her and see if she will kiss you. If that does not go well don't go for sex. The problem is a lot guys don't have time to say no. So I get it.
Hk puts yellow wrist bands on civie girls so meseros won't pushing expensive ficha drinks on them. Most party in the club, watch strip shows with their BFs or lesbian partners. But last couple weeks I ran into a few unattached girls who acted unusual.
Sunday night 3 girls were sitting quietly in a booth in the corner watching the strip show. One was above average, the rest plain and chunky. They sat quietly not talking to anyone. Later they decided to leave. Outside they were shepherded into an UBER by a big, black guy, acting like their business manager or pimp. I was pretty sure the guy was trying to pimp them out in HK but competition was stiff and they could not make inroad.
2 young blondes in shorts and Ts, one very attractive, one homely, asked me for cigarettes. She said she's 19 from Huntington Beach. I asked her if she wanted to find a table to sit down; she nodded. But then she separated from me and started flirting with other guys. She was running from one group of guys to the next, flirting wildly. Her friend sat quietly at a table with some guys but they would not buy her drinks. Eventually they disappeared out of the club. I should have accosted her aggressively, offered her drinks, food and taken her to the hotel. I missed out on a very good opportunity with this girl.Civie girls in HK Very bad idea. For several reasons. #1-HK doesn't really want them in the bar. I've watched them not allow woman in, who weren't with a guy. Majority are with their boyfriend or husband, and stopping in after dancing at revolution clubs. Hk is watching everything you do. They see you talking to a civie girl, buying her four dollar beers, maybe sex for free, it's exactly what HK does not want. Unless your never returning to HK I wouldn't want that problema. #2-you may get a girl who's boyfriend is going to the bathroom or arriving in a few minutes. He sees you talking to his fiance on a brothel like she's a working girl. You don't want that problema. #3- from experience, I've had " regular" girls encounter me, in the street outside numerous times. ALL either led to violence with the men she worked for, or, attempted violence when she tried to show me her hotel room but the dude was still in the room. That for sure was a planned robbery.
Sounds like Elvira. She didn't rock my world either. We made out a bunch downstairs but she's not great at screwing IMO. She's got a tranny BF, BTW.Saw her on stage night 1 doing the shaving cream show and riding the double dildo with her friend. When I offered her a dollar she grabbed my hand and pushed it between her legs. Dollar two and my fingers were inside of her. Dollar three and she guided me to her ass. Then she smiled and said I was a trouble maker. And she liked trouble makers. I asked if she liked girls or boys and she said yes with a wicked smile. We chatted a bit more as she slid around the stage (she wasn't letting anyone else put their hands on her pussy) and that was that. She left to go get cleaned up and either someone else took her upstairs or she took a break. Not sure. Anyway, she stuck with me because I've never had one of the girls give me that kind of freaky attention.
The next night I was sitting in the cocktail bar and she danced but I was already enjoying another girl on my lap. That girl didn't speak any English and although she was a stunner, I was annoyed using Google translate. When her drinks ran out I told her to beat it and asked the mesero to bring me the green haired girl. She showed up and she remembered me from the night before and seemed excited. Sat on my lap and had a drink before she asked me to feel how wet she was. Seemed genuinely turned on (I know. She's good at her job.) Anyway, had a few drinks with her and was letting her throw money at her friends on stage (she was telling me which ones were cool and which ones were bitches.) Had a really fun time and then took her upstairs and she took really good care of me. I used my phone to turn on some music and it seemed to turn her on because she was making requests. Made me grab her by the hair when I bent her over and was good and loud for me. Plus, I think her body and outfits are crazy hot. She couldn't handle all of me in her mouth but A for effort. I was drunk / tired after we finished and she laid with me and we listened to a bit of music and talked about Tijuana.
I'm realistic and know what it was and what it wasn't but she's one of the better ones and even though I won't probably take her upstairs again (not so interested in repeats) I'll definitely buy her drinks and enjoy her company if our paths cross again.
I think you're overthinking this. But, first and foremost, you have to work on you. Spanish is mandatory if you're going to hang with a chica for any amount of time. You don't have to be fluent, but sitting at a table having a staring contest, or futzing with Google Translate all night, is nobody's idea of fun. Also, you have to present yourself as the "relaxed, party vibe" kind of guy. This only comes from experience. The more you travel, the more bars in the zona you visit, etc. , etc. , the more experience you have and that translates into more confidence. The party starts with you.
Next, the girls. That's the easy part. There is no magic word or phrase that turns them from stand-offish to get-down-with-yo-bad-self. The girl has no idea what you want to happen. It's up to you to initiate. It's up to you to make them feel comfortable. How? That's easy. They are women, and they are Mexicanas. You don't talk about their work, as to most Mexicans work is simply a means to an end. You start talking about their kids. Their family. Are the kids in school? Where? Who cares for them? Essentially, you do NOT talk about you (yes, you're the one paying but you're after more than a quick screw). You make THEM the center of your attention and you talk about what THEY like to talk about. You talk about their city. If you've traveled (and you really need to) you can compare notes. Oh, Morelia? I've been to Uruapan, which is close. How do the two compare? With a bit of Spanish, a bit of imagination, and a bit of patience, anybody can chat with a BG for at least an hour.First of all, thanks a lot for this detailed and thoughtful response. What you said here really reminds me of a realization I had come to based on an interaction I had with a BG who actually spoke really stellar English. The conversation I had with that girl was an utter train wreck despite there being no language barrier. I had a lot of obvious mistakes that I won't get into, but one major thing that your response reminded me of was that I failed to take the lead in the interaction. A part of it is that I didn't know the right way to initiate certain things, like touching or kissing or lap dances, but even from a basic conversation standpoint, I wasn't consciously leading the conversation towards topics that she was interested in talking about or topics that could transition into sexual tension. She even told me straight out, "I don't know what you want to happen."
It reminded me that having a good interaction with BGs is basically the same as having a good interaction with any girl anywhere. You basically need to go through the whole cycle of approach, comfort, seduction, and close as if you were trying to pick up a civilian girl, except in an accelerated fashion. Even if you can have guaranteed sex with a BG, my experience has shown to me that playing that card before having a good interaction usually leads to bad sessions. I'll definitely try asking about their family, home town, and travels next time.
Concerning the fun and dancing at the table, that tends to vary by girl. Some are really into the party vibe and, for a few drinks, will have fun. Some are more tranquil and prefer the "soft sell. " You can encourage the party behavior by chatting them up, buying a ficha, or two, and saying "ven aca. " Come here. If she doesn't get the hint, revert to Plan be or cut your losses and move on. But, generally speaking, most who work in these places don't mind a bit of bump and grind. But your body language has to show that you are open to it. Sitting with a deer-in-the-headlights expression, body stiff as a board, sour look on your face, whatever, signals that you're not receptive.
There are loads of other bars. The ones you named, and others. If you're looking to improve your Spanish and carry on a conversation, I recommend a quieter place. I find it tough to converse in the raucous atmosphere of HK on a weekend. A "dead" bar is excellent hunting grounds. Unless you absolutely have to have a rowdy atmosphere. But if you're trying to learn the ropes, and learn Spanish, the rowdy places are not conducive to such. Start with a "dead" Chicago and work your way up..Yes, all great points. I'll definitely watch my body language and try asking them 'ven aca' next time. For some reason I expected all of them to have a party vibe due to some kind of training, but now that you mention it, it does also make a lot of sense that it is a discretionary thing that depends on the individual girl. I agree that it's a better call to go to quieter bars or maybe HK on a slow day at a slow time. Girls seem more in a rush during the weekend at HK.
ScatManDoo
09-24-19, 20:09
It's also probably not about looks either because I see plenty of not conventionally attractive older dudes seeming to get along fine with the girls. So it must be something they are saying and doing. Can anyone else here shed some light on this mystery? What have you guys specifically said or done to create chemistry with the girls?The ugly, older men are buying $9 drinks for the scantily clad women.
Raise your hand if you have further questions.
The ugly, older men are buying $9 drinks for the scantily clad women.
Raise your hand if you have further questions.Sure, but if the girl doesn't like you, they can just drink the drink really fast and leave. This has happened to me before.
I used my phone to turn on some music and it seemed to turn her on because she was making requests. Made me grab her by the hair when I bent her over and was good and loud for me. Plus, I think her body and outfits are crazy hot. She couldn't handle all of me in her mouth but A for effort. I was drunk / tired after we finished and she laid with me and we listened to a bit of music and talked about Tijuana.
I'm realistic and know what it was and what it wasn't but she's one of the better ones and even though I won't probably take her upstairs again (not so interested in repeats) I'll definitely buy her drinks and enjoy her company if our paths cross again.Sounds like fun-- she's smart to differentiate herself as a punky goth chick amidst all the buchona operadas. Did she give you BBBJ? She did for me, but it wasn't skilled.
I have found better results when they talk, not me.Any salesman worth his salt understands this. Get your mark talking. Understand what makes them tick. Find common ground. Connect.
I have been to HK many times and civie girls go there all the time. Its very common to see guys there with their girlfriends. The bands are also so they can keep track. I know a former worker who had regulars take her into HK very often. They are exceptionally aggressive in making sure no non-HK girls are working in their club (meaning they come in to solicit customers). If they even remotely suspect it, you're (the girl) is asked to leave immediately. Even former HK-girls who come back as a civie have to be very careful (friend of mine used to date a girl who off and on worked at HK). Not saying it can't happen but very unlikely.
I've seen Las Chevres and Adelita girls hang out at Tropical which made me wonder if I could invite them for an arriba. However I didn't ask and just drank beers with them.
Civie girls in HK Very bad idea. For several reasons. #1-HK doesn't really want them in the bar. I've watched them not allow woman in, who weren't with a guy. Majority are with their boyfriend or husband, and stopping in after dancing at revolution clubs. Hk is watching everything you do. They see you talking to a civie girl, buying her four dollar beers, maybe sex for free, it's exactly what HK does not want. Unless your never returning to HK I wouldn't want that problema. #2-you may get a girl who's boyfriend is going to the bathroom or arriving in a few minutes. He sees you talking to his fiance on a brothel like she's a working girl. You don't want that problema. #3- from experience, I've had " regular" girls encounter me, in the street outside numerous times. ALL either led to violence with the men she worked for, or, attempted violence when she tried to show me her hotel room but the dude was still in the room. That for sure was a planned robbery.
AnacondaTp
09-26-19, 07:59
Long time lurker, 1st time posting. Thanks to all the veterans here and all the advises, I have had so much fun. Been down a couple times, both Adelitas and HK. Got to say HK has the best selection. Do you guys know if a girl name Tamara is still working at HK?
I know that on weekends they charge 7 bucks to get in, is this also the case during weekdays? If I go on let's say a Wednesday night around 8 pm is it free entry? I know with a VIP card I can get in free but I don't go often enough to milk a VIP card for what it's worth.
I know that on weekends they charge 7 bucks to get in, is this also the case during weekdays? If I go on let's say a Wednesday night around 8 pm is it free entry? I know with a VIP card I can get in free but I don't go often enough to milk a VIP card for what it's worth.Entry $ 7 only Thursday, Friday, Saturday from 7 PM (you get a cold can of beer at the entrance).
Yes, this is exactly what I am talking about. I see girls just sit with guys for a long time, and I'm confused. They must be telling some elaborate jokes or telling stories in Spanish. But c'mon. I am willing to bet that not every gringo with a girl at their table for a long time can speak Spanish that well. There's got to be something they're saying or doing right, probably in English, that I'm not. Also interesting are the ones that get the girls to start kissing them or dancing all up on them.
You can just sit around and watch other guys with girls at their tables and sort of tell which ones seem to have chemistry and which ones don't. I'd say a good majority have chemistry because otherwise the chances of seeing the girl at their table would be low. If there was no chemistry, the girl would probably have left already.
It's also probably not about looks either because I see plenty of not conventionally attractive older dudes seeming to get along fine with the girls. So it must be something they are saying and doing. Can anyone else here shed some light on this mystery? What have you guys specifically said or done to create chemistry with the girls?If you have good sessions, nice, easy going girls, then repeat with these girls. For example, I have two girls in Hong Kong, three in Adelita and I only deal with them and I don't need more because I always have good sessions and I don't complain. A new girl is always a problem (no vibe or no chemistry). Of course, be careful and discreet so that the favorite girl does not see you that you go to the room with another favorite girl. Also, buy a flower from the seller inside Hong Kong or Adelita only costs $ 2 and can be a big plus in bed in the room because the girls like it.
If you have good sessions, nice, easy going girls, then repeat with these girls. For example, I have two girls in Hong Kong, three in Adelita and I only deal with them and I don't need more because I always have good sessions and I don't complain. A new girl is always a problem (no vibe or no chemistry). Of course, be careful and discreet so that the favorite girl does not see you that you go to the room with another favorite girl. Also, buy a flower from the seller inside Hong Kong or Adelita only costs $ 2 and can be a big plus in bed in the room because the girls like it.To Piggyback on this, I also do two other things. First I always buy a favorite a drink and chit chat a little. The reason is that she may be having a shitty day, so I don't want her taking it out on me, favorite or not. The other thing I do is to try to be her 1st client for the day. So I probe for this info when I chit chat over a drink.
What a great forum. Just found it. Thanks to all for posting your insightful info.
Just discovered HK in the last couple years after living in San Diego for many years. Amazing place, management, workers. And of course. The girls! We are truly fortunate to live in San Diego and have this place across the border. No other city in the US has this type of location and economic dynamics happening.
Tip Time:. I learned this while doing a Red Light district tour a couple years ago. There is a restaurant couple doors down from Hong Kong called Azul. The food is good but the best part is the ambiance. Amazingly it is located on the 2nd floor above the alley street behind HK. As you take a break from the club the vibe of the place is very cool. You look over the street with all the girls selling their natural talent. People doing their business etc. Have a bit to eat or a beer and relax. Many of the employees and working girls take breaks up here so you feel like a local. Waiters are very friendly. I hesitate sharing this as you know what happens when things get popular. They will find a reason to shut it down. (TIP. it outside on the patio). Best viewing.
Location: The "game" of safety in Tijuana is reducing risk. Shit can still happen and does but decrease your risk helps to go a long way to keeping you safe.
The easiest way to get to Azul Restaurante is just ask someone in HK where it is and they will go to the alley side of HK on (Callejon Coahuila) and walk you two doors to the east on the alley to the restaurant where you walk up to the 2nd floor.
On your own the safest way is walk into Hotel Cascadas and walk up to the 4th floor. Cross the length of the hotel to the back side on alley Callejon Coahuila and then take the stairs down to the 2nd floor where you will see the entrance to the cafe.
The third way and not the way I like to do it (reduce your exposure to Polica or other stuff). Walk around HK on the street level to the back and walk down the Callejon Coahuila alley to the entrance of Azul's and then walk up one flight of stairs to the entrance.
https://hotelcascadas.com/the-hotel/restaurant-azul
I ask a favor as well. Please go and support this restaurant as it's a "gem" and I don't know of any place like it in the world really. And I have been to many red light districts.
Looking forward to learning more from everyone and sharing other info I learn as well.
Salute to all working at HK and Azul's for all the hard work they put into making this place happen.
Goyo.
KC Questor
09-28-19, 04:01
Tip Time:. I learned this while doing a Red Light district tour a couple years ago. There is a restaurant couple doors down from Hong Kong called Azul.
I hesitate sharing this as you know what happens when things get popular. They will find a reason to shut it down.Hey man, welcome to the board and thanks for posting. But you shouldn't make it sound like Azul is some hidden gem that is a secret to be passed along. It is the main restaurant for Cascadas Hotel and Hong Kong Club. If you stay at Cascadas, it's the room service and in-house hotel, and if you order food in Hong Kong, it's where the food comes from. I dare say it may be the most famous restaurant in the zona. Yes, it is nice enough and you will see lots of girls and crazy people there. Eating on the balcony overlooking the alley is a treat. Definitely recommend it if you don't want to go far from the zona for some of the truly excellent restaurants that you will find in the other parts of Tijuana. But feel free to tell people about it. The restaurant isn't going anywhere and it's not going to be overrun by tourists.
Captain Solo
09-28-19, 12:22
To Goyo61,
Like you I was glad to find La Zona 19 years ago, fun parties with pretty girls, hot sex, good food, exciting adventures, exotic locations.
You are correct HK's managers, workers and the chicas do work hard to create a nice, fun, sexy ambiance to entertain their clients.
Azul's is a pretty good restaurant to take the chicas to. A lot of chicas go to work hungry and appreciate offers for food. You can also stay in HK with the chicas and have your meseros bring any items from Azul's menu with the 2-4-1 appetizer / dinner coupon. My wingman and I ordered 2 rib eyes with all the trimmings for $12 including tips. The steaks were tasty and tender, a very good deal while hanging out with your chicas and watching the strip show.
Monte Carlo across from Adelitas is also very popular. It has a special, rib eye with a beer, for 180 pesos, not as good and fun as Azul's.
We are definitely lucky to have a nice, fun, sexy place like HK to hang out and party with hot chicas.
Just discovered HK in the last couple years after living in San Diego for many years. Amazing place, management, workers. And of course. The girls! We are truly fortunate to live in San Diego and have this place across the border. No other city in the US has this type of location and economic dynamics happening.
Tip Time:. I learned this while doing a Red Light district tour a couple years ago. There is a restaurant couple doors down from Hong Kong called Azul. The food is good but the best part is the ambiance. Amazingly it is located on the 2nd floor above the alley street behind HK. As you take a break from the club the vibe of the place is very cool. You look over the street with all the girls selling their natural talent. People doing their business etc. Have a bit to eat or a beer and relax. Many of the employees and working girls take breaks up here so you feel like a local. Waiters are very friendly. I hesitate sharing this as you know what happens when things get popular. They will find a reason to shut it down. (TIP. It outside on the patio). Best viewing.
https://hotelcascadas.com/the-hotel/restaurant-azul
I ask a favor as well. Please go and support this restaurant as it's a "gem" and I don't know of any place like it in the world really. And I have been to many red light districts.
Looking forward to learning more from everyone and sharing other info I learn as well.
Salute to all working at HK and Azul's for all the hard work they put into making this place happen.
Goyo.
Captain Solo
09-28-19, 15:45
Kitty was supposed to meet me in HK last Tuesday. I texted her from the club, but no answer. Got her text 4 AM next morning, saying she was home.
She does fashion modeling, dressing up in school girl uniforms, lingerie and has a good following in instagram.
She's hot, loving and passionate in bed.
Hello,
I'm going to HK for the first time on Oct. 26-27. This forum has given me a lot of knowledge! Is there any veterans of HK want to meet up so you can show me the ropes?
Thank you!
Hey man, welcome to the board and thanks for posting. But you shouldn't make it sound like Azul is some hidden gem that is a secret to be passed along. It is the main restaurant for Cascadas Hotel and Hong Kong Club. If you stay at Cascadas, it's the room service and in-house hotel, and if you order food in Hong Kong, it's where the food comes from. I dare say it may be the most famous restaurant in the zona. Yes, it is nice enough and you will see lots of girls and crazy people there. Eating on the balcony overlooking the alley is a treat. Definitely recommend it if you don't want to go far from the zona for some of the truly excellent restaurants that you will find in the other parts of Tijuana. But feel free to tell people about it. The restaurant isn't going anywhere and it's not going to be overrun by tourists.I like azule better few years ago before the renovations. It was crowded with fast food style booths, you sit in a booth, within a minute a zona Norte working girl dressed in robe is sitting across or next to you because there wasn't enough seating. It allowed for you free female company. Now I sit in azules, unless you bring girl in with you, you won't be sitting with random woman. The staff here is good. Not like dealing with Hong Kong meseros.
Thanks Cap and KC. Will have to check out Monte Carlo as well. I bet 95% of the HK customers don't know you can go up to the 2nd floor patio at Azul's. It is a hidden jem as I only found out about it from the nice guy who did the TJBabes web site a while back. (don't see it on the web anymore). Guy was quite the writer. We did a red light district tour with him which was Very informative.
Dellamilk. May go down there next weekend in the afternoon for a bit if you want to connect up.
To Goyo61,
Like you I was glad to find La Zona 19 years ago, fun parties with pretty girls, hot sex, good food, exciting adventures, exotic locations.
You are correct HK's managers, workers and the chicas do work hard to create a nice, fun, sexy ambiance to entertain their clients.
Azul's is a pretty good restaurant to take the chicas to. A lot of chicas go to work hungry and appreciate offers for food. You can also stay in HK with the chicas and have your meseros bring any items from Azul's menu with the 2-4-1 appetizer / dinner coupon. My wingman and I ordered 2 rib eyes with all the trimmings for $12 including tips. The steaks were tasty and tender, a very good deal while hanging out with your chicas and watching the strip show.
Monte Carlo across from Adelitas is also very popular. It has a special, rib eye with a beer, for 180 pesos, not as good and fun as Azul's..
AzureFun87
09-29-19, 23:42
Planning to head down to HK tonight for the first time.
Around what time does the club hit it's peak on Sunday nights?
Is there anywhere nearby I can get Viagra?
Hoping to have some fun and make it back across the border (I have Sentri) to catch the last trolley back to my hotel in SD.
BmoreBishop
09-30-19, 00:24
Out of curiosity, do the shaving cream girls go arriba too (assuming this is a yes)? Most of the chicas I saw on that stage weren't the cream of the crop so to speak, but there was a fairly hot little spinner when I was there last year that was just sliding up and down the stage taking a pounding with this big dildo, guys shoving 3-4 fingers in her at a time with ease. Looked like she'd be a lot of fun to play with, but she disappeared after the show. Guessing someone else beat me to it. Any other girls known for being into stretching / gaping / fisting / etc. ?
KC Questor
09-30-19, 01:25
Around what time does the club hit it's peak on Sunday nights?Sundays are busiest from about 7:00 to about 10:00 or midnight. That's about the time the weekend warriors head home so they can go back to work in the morning. It will still be jumping, but not crazy.
Is there anywhere nearby I can get Viagra?If you just want one you can buy it from the bathroom attendant, but it will be pricey and you have to wonder about its authenticity. If you walk out the front door of Hong Kong and take a right, past Adelitas you will come to the corner of Constitution. Make a right and walk past the alley and up the hill one block. On your left across the street will be a Farmacia Ahorra. It is open 24 hours and will sell you Viagra. Other than this place there are half a million other farmacias in Tijuana where you can buy ED meds. Enjoy!
KC Questor
09-30-19, 01:28
Out of curiosity, do the shaving cream girls go arriba too (assuming this is a yes)?Yes, they go arriba.
John Gault
09-30-19, 03:14
Kitty was supposed to meet me in HK last Tuesday. I texted her from the club, but no answer. Got her text 4 AM next morning, saying she was home.
She does fashion modeling, dressing up in school girl uniforms, lingerie and has a good following in instagram.
She's hot, loving and passionate in bed.Me gusta, thanks.
Kitty was supposed to meet me in HK last Tuesday. I texted her from the club, but no answer. Got her text 4 AM next morning, saying she was home.
She does fashion modeling, dressing up in school girl uniforms, lingerie and has a good following in instagram.
She's hot, loving and passionate in bed.From Chiapas?
Bought her a drink once. But she was so shy I couldn't get a word out of her. I actually thought she was either very shy or retarded. Very gentle soul though. Always wondered what she'the be like in bed considering I always end up with psycho bitches that slaps the shit out of me when they orgasm.
HK does such a great job with everything. Just dreaming but wish Cascadas hotel next door would have some speakers I could plug into a couple of their hotel rooms. Yea I know it's only for 30 minutes with a chica but it all adds to the experience. I would pay another $5/ room for the "speaker" room. Just some speakers I can plug my phone into. Currently the only way to have decent sound is to lug speakers in a backpack and rent a hotel room for a night or something? Sure they are worrying about someone stealing them but could mount the speakers in a cabinet etc.
I do like the red lights they use in the rooms. Other hotels don't have this.
Anyway. Just dreaming and thought to share.
Goyo.
Holy shit, the Chica cartel is starting up again. All the chicas are asking for $100. Don't matter what the hell they look like nor what day nor what hour. A chica in Chubelas asked for $200. I took her upstairs.
Just kidding. My dink went involuntarily limp when I heard her price. So I cut my losses early and booted her outa my booth.
Nowadays I end up in the alley or escorts. Not a bad second option. I even told one very affectionate chica in HK I now hire escorts. She dropped me like a rock upon hearing it. But I felt it was my duty to spread the word on the competition to break the cartel.
DramaFree11
10-03-19, 01:14
Holy shit, the Chica cartel is starting up again. All the chicas are asking for $100. Don't matter what the hell they look like nor what day nor what hour. A chica in Chubelas asked for $200. I took her upstairs.
Just kidding. My dink went involuntarily limp when I heard her price. So I cut my losses early and booted her outa my booth.
Nowadays I end up in the alley or escorts. Not a bad second option. I even told one very affectionate chica in HK I now hire escorts. She dropped me like a rock upon hearing it. But I felt it was my duty to spread the word on the competition to break the cartel.It is still very easy to get girls for $80.
Holy shit, the Chica cartel is starting up again. All the chicas are asking for $100. Don't matter what the hell they look like nor what day nor what hour. A chica in Chubelas asked for $200. I took her upstairs.
Just kidding. My dink went involuntarily limp when I heard her price. So I cut my losses early and booted her outa my booth.
Nowadays I end up in the alley or escorts. Not a bad second option. I even told one very affectionate chica in HK I now hire escorts. She dropped me like a rock upon hearing it. But I felt it was my duty to spread the word on the competition to break the cartel.Last week I paid $ 60 in Adelita. The problem is in the summer small hotel rooms for SG are terribly hot without a window or a fan probably 100 F inside. I avoid SG in the summer. There is always an air conditioner in Adelita or HK. Another problem is the lack of competition in prices from the US. Thanks to feminists and puritans, prostitution is strictly illegal . The nearest only legal brothels is in Nye county, Nevada near Las Vegas but I have heard that prices are crazy eg HJ $ 250!
Errol Flynn
10-03-19, 16:09
Another problem is the lack of competition in prices from the US. Thanks to feminists and puritans, prostitution is strictly illegal . The nearest only legal brothels is in Nye county, Nevada near Las Vegas but I have heard that prices are crazy eg HJ $ 250!Agreed that the US is a problem. The best option anymore (not saying it's great, but if you can't travel) is the AMPS where CBJ + CFS goes for $100-$120 (+ $40-$60 for the house). It can be tough to find providers under 30, but they are out there with some luck. And sometimes you even get a good massage.
Agreed that the US is a problem. The best option anymore (not saying it's great, but if you can't travel) is the AMPS where CBJ + CFS goes for $100-$120 (+ $40-$60 for the house). It can be tough to find providers under 30, but they are out there with some luck. And sometimes you even get a good massage.Always ask upstairs price before you buy her a drink. Just this week in NYC on a trip, I had a nice Asian woman for an hour massage and fooling around for 40 dollars. She didn't ask for tip. I gave her 20. So I agree, keep options open. Eventually we will have brothels in all is cities. The tax revenue will be huuge. Call girls already have lawyers and non profits suing on their behalf to end criminalization on hookers and it's working. Once it's not illegal it's on its way to legal. Then Hong Kong prices drop to 30 bucks. May take 10 years though.
HK does such a great job with everything. Just dreaming but wish Cascadas hotel next door would have some speakers I could plug into a couple of their hotel rooms. Yea I know it's only for 30 minutes with a chica but it all adds to the experience. I would pay another $5/ room for the "speaker" room. Just some speakers I can plug my phone into. Currently the only way to have decent sound is to lug speakers in a backpack and rent a hotel room for a night or something? Sure they are worrying about someone stealing them but could mount the speakers in a cabinet etc.
I do like the red lights they use in the rooms. Other hotels don't have this.
Anyway. Just dreaming and thought to share.
Goyo.Get outside of the Zona and their shitty hotels. Virtually all of the love motels in Tijuana have available music, TV, room service, etc. The rooms are much larger, much nicer and much cleaner. All for around $25 for 4 (or more) hours.
Captain Solo
10-03-19, 17:58
To Jackie.
Don't remember where she came from. She speaks enough English with her breathless, high-pitch, little girl voice. She is shy but not retarded. She seems to live a Japanese anime fantasy and mumbles Japanese when she climaxes hehe. She may be infatuated with Asian guys, may be.
She is a gentle girl, very sexy and loving in bed. She would do everything with me. She was squeezing me pretty hard when she came. After sex we were cuddling in bed. She kissed me lovingly like a baby on my face, mouth and chest, then played with my dick for another session. She seemed fascinated with my dick. To me she's very loving and sexy. Wonder why she would no talk to you. You should talk to her nice and sweet, telling her she's beautiful and sexy, which she really is, that you want to fuck her so bad.
She's on Seeking Arrangements and probably do modeling and escorting. I will have to take her to another hotel when she's not working in HK. Rapid Inn on Constitucion is nice, bright and clean.
HK does such a great job with everything. Just dreaming but wish Cascadas hotel next door would have some speakers I could plug into a couple of their hotel rooms. Yea I know it's only for 30 minutes with a chica but it all adds to the experience. I would pay another $5/ room for the "speaker" room. Just some speakers I can plug my phone into. Currently the only way to have decent sound is to lug speakers in a backpack and rent a hotel room for a night or something? Sure they are worrying about someone stealing them but could mount the speakers in a cabinet etc.
I do like the red lights they use in the rooms. Other hotels don't have this.
Anyway. Just dreaming and thought to share.
Goyo.I have a blue tooth speaker that cost me $10 and it's about the size of two Oreo cookies stacked on top of each other. It works pretty well and it's always in my go bag.
It is still very easy to get girls for $80.Yes. Never ask for their number. Just present your number. "Tengo X, vamos?
100 makes no sense (to me) for such a short time with usually underwhelming service.
Are you guys ever in HK and look at a guy and think to yourself "this has to be one of the mongers from online" LOL. This happened to me last night (Wednesday night around 8 pm). A seasoned veteran type wearing a Make Venezuela Great Again shirt. If this was any of you please step up! LOL.
And just for the record out of the 5 girls I talked to about going "arriba", 3 would not budge from 100.1 said 80. The other said 100 but after I made a face she went down to 80. I didn't end up going arriba with anyone. None of the girls I liked appeared like they were going to give me anything beyond a wham bam thank you ma'am type of session so I opted to hand out tips groping smoking hot chicas all letting me have my way with their bodies for $1. Afterwards I ate some delicious tacos and headed home.
Member #4722
10-04-19, 06:45
Agreed that the US is a problem. The best option anymore (not saying it's great, but if you can't travel) is the AMPS where CBJ + CFS goes for $100-$120 (+ $40-$60 for the house). It can be tough to find providers under 30, but they are out there with some luck. And sometimes you even get a good massage.Used to see a lot of good providers in San Diego but once the big forum got closed down things went downhill very quickly. Last 5-6 sessions I had in SD were duds, and at around $250/ HR that creates a lot of buyer's remorse. When I first started mongering in SD there was a Glamour Massage group all the girls were really hot and even though it was HJ only all girls did DFK and DATY. They didn't screen clients and got busted pretty quick.
Recently scoped out some escorts on Twitter pretty average looking ladies charging $800/ HR. So glad I started coming back to Tijuana as I never worry about a lousy session if I paid less than $100.
OrganicAlo
10-05-19, 03:35
Are you guys ever in HK and look at a guy and think to yourself "this has to be one of the mongers from online" LOL. This happened to me last night (Wednesday night around 8 pm). A seasoned veteran type wearing a Make Venezuela Great Again shirt. If this was any of you please step up! LOL.
And just for the record out of the 5 girls I talked to about going "arriba", 3 would not budge from 100.1 said 80. The other said 100 but after I made a face she went down to 80. I didn't end up going arriba with anyone. None of the girls I liked appeared like they were going to give me anything beyond a wham bam thank you ma'am type of session so I opted to hand out tips groping smoking hot chicas all letting me have my way with their bodies for $1. Afterwards I ate some delicious tacos and headed home.I met some Asian dude probably in his late 20's-early 30's on my only solo trip south of the border. He was a member of this site, we kicked it for a few hours got some HK tacos, went to AB and he bought me a beer. I was pretty drunk that night so I hardly remember any of it but he was a pretty cool dude.
I asked for a couple numbers from girls and they seemed OK with it. You mentioned to always present your number. Just curious why? I guess it gives them the control if they really don't want to connect up.
Thanks to all for the tips on bringing speakers. Or just going to other hotel etc. If the girl is willing. I loved SG Sofia. Was funny. I saw her the first week $20. Gave her a nice tip. Saw her the second week and went up to $25. Something tells me if I see her again. It's going to be $30.
Whats the legal age for working girls? Some of the SG look a little young. Do you ask so see their ID. Or health card?
Goyo.
Yes. Never ask for their number. Just present your number. "Tengo X, vamos?
100 makes no sense (to me) for such a short time with usually underwhelming service.
Sargent 50
10-05-19, 15:14
I've never been to HK during football season. Do they only show local games or do they have the ticket? How is it game days?
KC Questor
10-05-19, 16:11
I asked for a couple numbers from girls and they seemed OK with it. You mentioned to always present your number. Just curious why? I guess it gives them the control if they really don't want to connect up.I think he meant "present your number" as in the amount you are offering for arriba. "Tengo x, vamos?" means "I have X, should we go?" So don't ask them their price but just tell them how much you will pay.
Some of the SG look a little young. Do you ask so see their ID. Or health card?
If they are SGs ("paraditas") standing in one place regularly, you can be fairly sure they are OK. They are supposed to have a health card and get checked regularly. Of course they may have ways around that and it's not 100%, but it's the best you can do. The ones to stay away from if you are worried are the "walkers". Girls who are not in one fixed spot are ones who don't have health cards or are otherwise illegal. Some people have great success with the walkers, and it's up to you if you want to deal with them. Of course any American working girl in the Zona will be a walker.
I asked for a couple numbers from girls and they seemed OK with it. You mentioned to always present your number. Just curious why? I guess it gives them the control if they really don't want to connect up.
Thanks to all for the tips on bringing speakers. Or just going to other hotel etc. If the girl is willing. I loved SG Sofia. Was funny. I saw her the first week $20. Gave her a nice tip. Saw her the second week and went up to $25. Something tells me if I see her again. It's going to be $30.
Whats the legal age for working girls? Some of the SG look a little young. Do you ask so see their ID. Or health card?
Goyo.I exchanged numbers with a girl I met walking down the street when she left my Hotel room in the morning. Now she text's me all the time wanting to know when I will back. I don't don't what to do as I don't like a girl until later in the evening when I am all tired with flirting with the all the other girls in the bars. She is good looking and she thinks I'm her American Boyfriend (I only slept with her once). She didn't quote any payment before we went to my room so I gave her 2000 pesos (about $111) because she was there all night and I had the money and then some. I plan on going down there this weekend and don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
ScatManDoo
10-06-19, 04:05
I exchanged numbers with a girl I met walking down the street when she left my Hotel room in the morning. Now she text's me all the time wanting to know when I will back. I don't don't what to do as I don't like a girl until later in the evening when I am all tired with flirting with the all the other girls in the bars. She is good looking and she thinks I'm her American Boyfriend (I only slept with her once). She didn't quote any payment before we went to my room so I gave her 2000 pesos (about $111) because she was there all night and I had the money and then some. I plan on going down there this weekend and don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.First thing to question yourself on is: Do you want to repeat and have another toda la noche with her for about the same price?
OrganicAlo
10-06-19, 05:43
I exchanged numbers with a girl I met walking down the street when she left my Hotel room in the morning. Now she text's me all the time wanting to know when I will back. I don't don't what to do as I don't like a girl until later in the evening when I am all tired with flirting with the all the other girls in the bars. She is good looking and she thinks I'm her American Boyfriend (I only slept with her once). She didn't quote any payment before we went to my room so I gave her 2000 pesos (about $111) because she was there all night and I had the money and then some. I plan on going down there this weekend and don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.You paid 2000 pesos to a SG? No wonder she's calling you her BF, she wants your gringo dinero amigo.
KC Questor
10-06-19, 14:50
I plan on going down there this weekend and don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.I don't understand the problem. If you want to see her again, then message her and hook up. 2000 p for TLN is a good deal. If you don't want to see her again, don't tell her you are coming, or just block her number or stop responding to her. You are not her only guy. You are just another paycheck. The "American boyfriend" thing is just words. Believe me, she has a Mexican boyfriend as well as other American boyfriends.
She is a Tijuana hooker you met once. You are not betrothed.
Lakeside32
10-06-19, 16:48
I've never been to HK during football season. Do they only show local games or do they have the ticket? How is it game days?I arrived Cascadas Saturday night and I leave Monday. Was wanting to load up on beer and watch football in my room but I'm guessing the only channel available is CBS, I dunno if they have a double header today, but if not I'm headed downstairs to see how it goes LOL.
I exchanged numbers with a girl I met walking down the street when she left my Hotel room in the morning. Now she text's me all the time wanting to know when I will back. I don't don't what to do as I don't like a girl until later in the evening when I am all tired with flirting with the all the other girls in the bars. She is good looking and she thinks I'm her American Boyfriend (I only slept with her once). She didn't quote any payment before we went to my room so I gave her 2000 pesos (about $111) because she was there all night and I had the money and then some. I plan on going down there this weekend and don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.Best case scenario. You are a good client, one of many. When you meet hear again she will exchange sex for money. Everyone is happy.
Worst case and far more likely experience. She tells you that you are her boyfriend. She has an emergency whatever. She desperately needs money. But she refuses to have sex with you. And she throws a tantrum when you can't come up with the money. Actually her real life BF that is messaging you on her phone throws a tantrum. Everybody upset. I am speaking from experience and do you notice I've been on this forum?
Advice. Give her money when you feel like having sex. Ignore the tantrums from her boyfriend pretending to be her on the phone. Resist hiring someone to kill her boyfriend. Stay in control. Of the situation and your own temper when you realize the game you're caught in.
Best case scenario. You are a good client, one of many. When you meet hear again she will exchange sex for money. Everyone is happy.
Worst case and far more likely experience. She tells you that you are her boyfriend. She has an emergency whatever. She desperately needs money. But she refuses to have sex with you. And she throws a tantrum when you can't come up with the money. Actually her real life BF that is messaging you on her phone throws a tantrum. Everybody upset. I am speaking from experience and do you notice I've been on this forum?
Advice. Give her money when you feel like having sex. Ignore the tantrums from her boyfriend pretending to be her on the phone. Resist hiring someone to kill her boyfriend. Stay in control. Of the situation and your own temper when you realize the game you're caught in.And keep your eyes on a swivel for the boyfriend. You can very easily set up.
I've never been to HK during football season. Do they only show local games or do they have the ticket? How is it game days?I was there Thursday for the nfl game and they had it on. Don't know about Sunday's.
Captain Solo
10-07-19, 17:21
Corema is about 5'2, 100 lbs, light skin, a little chunky in the mid rift but she does have real spongy, squeezable boobs and butt. Her hair is straight long blond; face looks young and pretty, with a stud on lower left chin.
She always wears a short plaid skirt and tiny white top, exposing her mid rift, with long white panty hose, looking like a Catholic girl. Lots of guys like her, buying her drinks.
She was breathing heavily when I pinned her down and drove hard and fast deep into her tight coochie in missionary. She was gasping desperately when she came he he.
And keep your eyes on a swivel for the boyfriend. You can very easily set up.I knew a guy that got set up they tortured him before they broke his neck and then shot him dead.
Yes. Never ask for their number. Just present your number. "Tengo X, vamos?
100 makes no sense (to me) for such a short time with usually underwhelming service.Depends on the girl ofc sometimes you can get it even cheaper. Actually sometimes its good to let them give a number. And then say nah I only got 80 $ they always say OK lets go.
When in HK Sunday there was a guy with a shirt saying "Make Tijuana Great Again". Funny little parody. Guy was great to talk to a few minutes and shared some good tips about the SG's.
I met some Asian dude probably in his late 20's-early 30's on my only solo trip south of the border. He was a member of this site, we kicked it for a few hours got some HK tacos, went to AB and he bought me a beer. I was pretty drunk that night so I hardly remember any of it but he was a pretty cool dude.
I try not to do any french kissing with most girls due to STD's and such. But for a couple girls in the last couple years I did take the risk and it was amazing. There is a "hands off" environment many of the girls enforce which I understand and respect. No fingers inside. No kissing etc. But a few girls are open to those things, but the down side is they are probably open to it with all the guys!! So only hope is to meet them when they are new to the profession so not as much chance of STD's etc.
Used to see a lot of good providers in San Diego but once the big forum got closed down things went downhill very quickly. Last 5-6 sessions I had in SD were duds, and at around $250/ HR that creates a lot of buyer's remorse. When I first started mongering in SD there was a Glamour Massage group all the girls were really hot and even though it was HJ only all girls did DFK and DATY. They didn't screen clients and got busted pretty quick.
Recently scoped out some escorts on Twitter pretty average looking ladies charging $800/ HR. So glad I started coming back to Tijuana as I never worry about a lousy session if I paid less than $100.
I knew a guy that got set up they tortured him before they broke his neck and then shot him dead.The kidnapping drill is once in the taxi two guys get in, one on each side. The mark is stabbed like Maximus in Gladiator. Just enough to immobilize, not enough to snuff. The mark is then driven to a safe house where they're kept and tortured for the pin to their cards which are milked for days until the accounts are depleted.
Baxter Slade
10-09-19, 04:51
The kidnapping drill is once in the taxi two guys get in, one on each side. The mark is stabbed like Maximus in Gladiator. Just enough to immobilize, not enough to snuff. The mark is then driven to a safe house where they're kept and tortured for the pin to their cards which are milked for days until the accounts are depleted.Are you trying to scare all the newbees from experiencing all the fun Tijuana has to offer.
LuvMexicanas
10-09-19, 17:43
Are you trying to scare all the newbees from experiencing all the fun Tijuana has to offer.There are too many mongers as it is and the inexperienced ones keep driving up prices so anything to discourage those on the fence works for me.
Yes. Never ask for their number. Just present your number. "Tengo X, vamos?
100 makes no sense (to me) for such a short time with usually underwhelming service.I always offer 1000 1200 peso + tips + pay after service. I'm picky, get no prob, mainly Wed + Thurs.
For very good service, I give good tips, say 1200+ 400 p; but for poor service, no or little tip. Once, a chick checked condom every a few min; pissed off, just gave 1000 + 100 (since she did a little oral).
1200+ 400 p is already over $80. No diff for me. But I want chicks know: only if I am happy, can they be happy. They need to please me to earn tips! Hard lessons learned before. I paid $80 $100 even in late 2015, but still got poor services and cheated several times. I just stick to my rule: busi is business. I am not there to make friends, or please those chicks; I am there for fun! Now, I seldomly get scams.
Captain Solo
10-10-19, 09:00
A few bros wanted to see more pics of Kitty.
I only want to show tasteful pics. This one was taken from screenshot of a video. She looked cool and relaxed waiting for sexy actions.
OrganicAlo
10-10-19, 15:50
Went down to Tijuana again with a coworker amigo, my 5th trip down. Parked at BSP again and it seems they have raised the rates, or shall I say reduced the parking times. :/ Instead of $9/12 hrs on weekdays it's $9/10 hrs.
Got to HK at 2:30 and checked our bags in and grabbed a beer while we waited to check in at 3.
Check in was easy this time around, they asked right away if I had VIP, yes. Got my double deluxe room #751, definitely a nice 3 $ upgrade.
Before starting the party for the night, we grabbed lunch at this small cafe, Maiz. We got some guac, my buddy got sopes de pollo, and I got the enchiladas de rojo why pollo.
Back to Cascadas (after a quick stop at Oxxo for drinks / snacks) to freshen up and change before heading down. From about 4-8 I was just hanging out and wasn't interested in arriba right away. Earlier in the night I was hanging out at foam show and some civie was getting crazy with the foam girls, it was a helluva funny show. At one point, she was on the stage with the chicas and they were putting shaving foam all over her. I came from behind and started dropping dollar bills on the civie haha, I hope her older man wasn't upset about it, but whatever, it's Tijuana. I ran into about 5 chicas I've been with on previous trips all in one night, wasn't in the mood for any repeats though; I even seen my first BG in Tijuana from my first trip back in April, she has put on a lot of weight.
My buddy talked me into taking her up again, I said fuck it. As I was chasing her down I lost sight of her, and ending up talking to this petite girl, she was no taller than 5'2". She went by Critzal and after a ficha we agreed on setenta why propina, off we went. In the room, she started to sort of play games, and I started to get a bad feeling, but just went with it fortunately. She started to say ochenta why propina and paga primera, I didn't want to kill the mood so I just showed her 80 and set it on the counter and she was good. Session was good though, I would probably repeat, lasted 20-30 minutes, and we cuddled for a bit afterwards and showered; She also gave me her number.
Back down to HK to meet up with my amigo and grab a taco from the HK cart, I wasn't very hungry so I just got un taco de asada. We decided to check out TB and it wasn't really our vibe, I did see a few cute chicas tho. Some deportee started to bug us and kept following us around the place, so we had to lose the tail. Went back to HK and they wouldn't let him in, probably a good thing, he kept saying he had $5 on it, but that only gets you one beer LOL.
It was probably around 10 at this point and they were starting that show where they bring an amigo onto stage, pour fichas and tequila into his mouth, shake his head blindfolded, and the chick comes in with a flying vag kick: the. I was tipping at the main stage as it was starting, and eventually after everyone declined they called upon me, I declined at first, but ended up just going for it, first amigo on the stage that night. Would definitely go up there again for free tequila shots and blindsided flying vag kicks.
For the rest of the night, we just hung out tipping and touching the ladies. Stopped at azul to check out the alley scene from above and have some red bull and water. There was some crazy drugged out girl screaming in the street, she looked really young, it was sad. Ended up crashing out at around 2 am.
Woke up at about 7:30, showered, met up with my friend and we went to grab some breakfast at LOS Chilaquilles. I had the dos salsas chillaquilles, and my buddy got the octopus chillaquilles. Both dishes were really good and had great presentation.
Got into HK at about 10 am and we had to leave by noon because my friend had to be at work in LA at 5:30; So I was on a time restraint to get a few beers in me and find a chica. I went down by myself at first and my buddy showed up maybe 30 minutes after. I noticed there are a lot of older sharky chicas working the mornings. I ended up getting tag teamed by two older chicas that I quickly turned down, gave them each a dollar and got my feels. However, they kept trying and I had maybe 5 singles sitting on my lap and as they were trying to distract me I caught in my peripherals one of their hands reaching towards my few dollars. I had literally turned my head at the same time she was reaching for it, but all of us definitely caught the vibe that I had seen what they were doing; They quickly ran off.
Eventually found this pretty hot blonde chica, with pastels over her tits. She went by Avi, 26, and was from Monterrey. After a quick ficha, she said ochenta and I didn't feel like negotiating so just agreed. Session was great with her, lasted a little longer than the previous session, and she didn't ask for payment upfront. She wanted me to CIM, I've actually never done this so quickly agreed haha. No BBBJ and I can't really get off with a HJ, so threw the condom back on after 5 minutes and ended up finishing in mish.
Checked out at about noon and got home around 4 pm.
Life's good.
Til next time amigos.
There are too many mongers as it is and the inexperienced ones keep driving up prices so anything to discourage those on the fence works for me.Last week I was watching this chica do a great dance on top of a bar when this dude comes of nowhere and takes her upstairs after commenting to me how hot she was. No drinks. No chit chat. No negotiations. In under 25 minutes she was back in HK with her arms around me asking if I wanted to fuck her. If she came back down in 25 minutes, she must have gave the poor dude 15 minutes in the room.
Actually I did not feel sorry for the bum because he pushed prices up and her expected performance down for me and others. So yeah, I do hope the inexperience mongers stop fucking it up for the rest of us. I hope she stole the fool's wallet as well.
Love the sound system in the main room at HK. If you sit across the room the subs are very nice. It's like your in the base box of the sub woofer. DJ's do a great job. The only place they need some help is the back room where they do the lap dances. Miami room I guess they call it. The music is so loud back there that it hurts. Anyone with a decent sound system knows that it can sound great with out hurting ones ears. Anyway I just wanted to vent as they do so much other stuff so well.
ChinaMan360
10-12-19, 09:25
Went down to the zona after a concert around midnight. Forgot passport card but no guards tonight so I snuck past.
When I got to Hong Kong had to pay $7 entrance fee? I don't remember Thursdays they made you pay to get in?
Low volume crowd which is why I love the weekdays. I bought a few beers throughout the night (5 $ really annoyed at this price tbh) and scoped out some talent. The recent mongers were right the chicas must have formed like a pseudo union because they all quoted 100 and was not really budging. I went earlier in like may and was able to go Arriba for $70 no problem. I eventually tricked a Chica by saying yes to her $80 and when we got to the room I just pretended I misjudged how much money I had she accepted. Oh the room was $18 FYI. I experimented by trying to get a cab ride back to the border for $3 and after 10 minutes nobody would take me up on it and so I just took the free shuttle back to the east pedestrian at 4 am.
Yes paying for sex in Tijuana is still cheaper than the states at $100. Sometimes. But I don't think the Mexicans understand that $100 is still a lot of money for an american, when I was explaining to this Chica who thought Americans just liked throwing money away. I really hate the beer prices too at $5 too. I think from now on I'm just ordering somewhere else and just buy one beer here to get meseros off my back and just take hits off my weed pen.
Overall I had an OK time. My last two visits were the best I've ever had at Hong Kong and the chicas didn't argue about prices. I tipped them after the session. I usually go once every 4 months but this trip didn't really excite me to want to go again in a while.
Last week I was watching this chica do a great dance on top of a bar when this dude comes of nowhere and takes her upstairs after commenting to me how hot she was. No drinks. No chit chat. No negotiations. In under 25 minutes she was back in HK with her arms around me asking if I wanted to fuck her. If she came back down in 25 minutes, she must have gave the poor dude 15 minutes in the room.
Actually I did not feel sorry for the bum because he pushed prices up and her expected performance down for me and others. So yeah, I do hope the inexperience mongers stop fucking it up for the rest of us. I hope she stole the fool's wallet as well.Did you talk to this guy? How do you understand that this was the case? Did the girl tell you this? Was it your experience with her? Curious.
Are you trying to scare all the newbees from experiencing all the fun Tijuana has to offer.Mexico, Tijuana in particular, has a skyrocketing murder rate. Think East Harlem, East L. A, Medellin. Moscow Oblast. A well developed sense of paranoia will keep one alive.
ScatManDoo
10-12-19, 23:56
Went down to the zona after a concert around midnight. Forgot passport card but no guards tonight so I snuck past.
When I got to Hong Kong had to pay $7 entrance fee? I don't remember Thursdays they made you pay to get in?After 7 PM on Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights, HK makes customers buy a mandatory drink to obtain entrance into the bar.
I thought the mandatory amount collected at the door was the $5 cost of a beer.
Are you sure the HK doorman didn't also assess you an Asian Tax?
Low volume crowd which is why I love the weekdays. I bought a few beers throughout the night (5 $ really annoyed at this price tbh) and scoped out some talent. The recent mongers were right the chicas must have formed like a pseudo union because they all quoted 100 and was not really budging. I went earlier in like may and was able to go Arriba for $70 no problem.Apparently no problem for you.
IncognitoTJ
10-13-19, 01:00
Went down to the zona after a concert around midnight. Forgot passport card but no guards tonight so I snuck past.
Low volume crowd which is why I love the weekdays. I bought a few beers throughout the night (5 $ really annoyed at this price tbh) and scoped out some talent. The recent mongers were right the chicas must have formed like a pseudo union because they all quoted 100 and was not really budging. If you are consistently being quoted cien dolares and the girl is not coming down on price after a counter-offer, it simply means that the girl (s) generally doesn't view you as having anything of value but money and don't see you as a human being, but as a quick mark to feast on. The only exception to this would be if the girl is brand-new to the game and doesn't know any better.
The only solution to this is to display more attractive qualities to make her want to come down in price to have sex with you. Dress better, be more friendly, flirt in Spanish, be willing to walk away, etc. In other words, stand out from the dozens of other guys that, in her eyes, look and behave exactly like you. I mean, yes any moron with money in there can have sex without speaking the language, but why should she want to have sex with you outside of a paycheck? What makes you different? And these qualities have to be exhibited as sub-conscious level.
At the end of the day, if you want hot sex, with a puta or non-puta, you're going to have to become more attractive. These working girls are no different.
IncognitoTJ
10-13-19, 01:03
Mexico, Tijuana in particular, has a skyrocketing murder rate. Think East Harlem, East L. A, Medellin. Moscow Oblast. A well developed sense of paranoia will keep one alive.Over-blown FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt). Just use common sense, don't be an asshole, and you're as safe here as in other major cities. Hell, they now even have Starbucks like coffee bistros on Cohuila now.
Captain Solo
10-13-19, 16:23
Saturday night HK had lots of hot girls. Just about all top girls were working.
I sat in a booth in the main floor all night, drinking half dozen beers, simultaneously watching the strip show, UFC's bloody fights on the large screen TV, and lots of hot girls in bikinis hanging out at the stairs, young girls dancing on top of bars, swaying their bubble butts, bucking their hot crotches. UFC men and women were beating each other viciously, splattering blood all over. The fights looked savagery. Porn would be much classier. But life was so good, feeling like a Roman emperor watching gladiators' fights, having a feast with his sexy concubines at the Colosseum.
HK was playing all American music. I would love to hear more sensuous Latin music for a change. Don't feel like driving down to Tijuana to listen to American ghetto music, but HK girls seem to like it. The club was packed with guys, girls and meseros. One of my favorite girls put on a classy strip act on stage. She's overall beautiful, pretty face, straight brown hair, tall, lanky, light smooth skin, no tats, long legs, nice natural boobs, but nobody tipped her for her sensuous dance. Poor girls. The crowd only tipped heavy girls with big fake boobs and butts. Damn sad. What's the world is coming to? Local guys have no taste, preferring chunky girls, leaving nice, lean, beautiful girls to us. Some of the hottest girls were hanging around the club all night. Nobody picked them up for the hotel.
Near time to go home found Elizabeth, also known as Jacqueline, showed up to work. HK girls use so many fake names, they sometimes forget their own call signs hehe. Elizabeth is one of the most beautiful girls anywhere in the world, tall, lanky, pretty face with black frame glasses, long straight black hair, light skin, no tats, long legs, beautiful real boobs, looking like a hot internationals model, or the hot Jewish princesses of polite society on the East coast. She's also very nice, sweet, gentle, sexy in bed. She works sporadically in HK and has been missing for at least 6 months. I have been looking for her. She was standing near the stage in her skimpy black bikini baring her nice, natural boobs with tiny pink nips. I already popped 2 girls and was out of ammo, but had to embrace that beautiful body and squeeze her hot boobs hehe. Confirmed with her she will be working all week next week. Have to come back next week to see her.
We are so damn lucky not to have to travel far to meet dozens beautiful girls in 1 club every night. My wingman and I were planning a trip to visit major cities in Mexico, but finally concluded that it's much more fun and sexy to hang out in Tijuana, eat good spicy food, having sex with a couple hot girls every day, and watch Youtube travel videos on 4 K TV hehe.
On the way back, 6 SENTRI lanes each had 5 cars in line. The CPB guy looked at us suspiciously and opened the trunk for check but found nada. We crossed the border in 5 minutes, got back to the home parking lot in about 1 hour.
Life is good.
DramaFree11
10-13-19, 18:10
Saturday night HK had lots of hot girls. Just about all top girls were working.
I sat in a booth in the main floor all night, drinking half dozen beers, simultaneously watching the strip show, UFC's bloody fights on the large screen TV, and lots of hot girls in bikinis hanging out at the stairs, young girls dancing on top of bars, swaying their bubble butts, bucking their hot crotches. UFC men and women were beating each other viciously, splattering blood all over. The fights looked savagery. Porn would be much classier. But life was so good, feeling like a Roman emperor watching gladiators' fights, having a feast with his sexy concubines at the Colosseum..Well said. Could not agree more. Just commented on some complaining on Adelitas Page. Tijuana is great, just do not know how you can not have fun here. Weather, Food, Value, Girls and Service.
Over-blown FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt). Just use common sense, don't be an asshole, and you're as safe here as in other major cities. Hell, they now even have Starbucks like coffee bistros on Cohuila now.I fail to see how Starbucks ensures one's security. From the San Diego Union Tribune a few months ago: "31 killed during 3-day period in Tijuana's deadly crime wave." I'm sure there were a few in that number who weren't assholes.
SomeGuy760
10-14-19, 05:06
Just wanted to share. I was at Hong Kong earlier tonight. Saw a guy walk up to the main stage and threw about 5 $ bills to the performer and walked away. Made me LOL.
Others $100+ to propina (free)?
Local discount less than $70 to propina?
After 7 PM on Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights, HK makes customers buy a mandatory drink to obtain entrance into the bar.
I thought the mandatory amount collected at the door was the $5 cost of a beer.
Are you sure the HK doorman didn't also assess you an Asian Tax?
Apparently no problem for you.
LoveLatina
10-14-19, 17:34
Went down to the zona after a concert around midnight. Forgot passport card but no guards tonight so I snuck past.
When I got to Hong Kong had to pay $7 entrance fee? I don't remember Thursdays they made you pay to get in?
Low volume crowd which is why I love the weekdays. I bought a few beers throughout the night (5 $ really annoyed at this price tbh) and scoped out some talent. The recent mongers were right the chicas must have formed like a pseudo union because they all quoted 100 and was not really budging. I went earlier in like may and was able to go Arriba for $70 no problem. I eventually tricked a Chica by saying yes to her $80 and when we got to the room I just pretended I misjudged how much money I had she accepted. Oh the room was $18 FYI. I experimented by trying to get a cab ride back to the border for $3 and after 10 minutes nobody would take me up on it and so I just took the free shuttle back to the east pedestrian at 4 am.
Yes paying for sex in Tijuana is still cheaper than the states at $100. Sometimes. But I don't think the Mexicans understand that $100 is still a lot of money for an american, when I was explaining to this Chica who thought Americans just liked throwing money away. I really hate the beer prices too at $5 too. I think from now on I'm just ordering somewhere else and just buy one beer here to get meseros off my back and just take hits off my weed pen.
Overall I had an OK time. My last two visits were the best I've ever had at Hong Kong and the chicas didn't argue about prices. I tipped them after the session. I usually go once every 4 months but this trip didn't really excite me to want to go again in a while.I eventually tricked a Chica by saying yes to her $80 and when we got to the room I just pretended I misjudged how much money I had she accepted.
You shouldn't have gone up if you weren't OK with what you negotiated. Learn to negotiate better. Don't pull tricks.
Went down to the zona after a concert around midnight. Forgot passport card but no guards tonight so I snuck past.
When I got to Hong Kong had to pay $7 entrance fee? I don't remember Thursdays they made you pay to get in?
Low volume crowd which is why I love the weekdays. I bought a few beers throughout the night (5 $ really annoyed at this price tbh) and scoped out some talent. The recent mongers were right the chicas must have formed like a pseudo union because they all quoted 100 and was not really budging. I went earlier in like may and was able to go Arriba for $70 no problem. I eventually tricked a Chica by saying yes to her $80 and when we got to the room I just pretended I misjudged how much money I had she accepted. Oh the room was $18 FYI. I experimented by trying to get a cab ride back to the border for $3 and after 10 minutes nobody would take me up on it and so I just took the free shuttle back to the east pedestrian at 4 am.
Yes paying for sex in Tijuana is still cheaper than the states at $100. Sometimes. But I don't think the Mexicans understand that $100 is still a lot of money for an american, when I was explaining to this Chica who thought Americans just liked throwing money away. I really hate the beer prices too at $5 too. I think from now on I'm just ordering somewhere else and just buy one beer here to get meseros off my back and just take hits off my weed pen.
Overall I had an OK time. My last two visits were the best I've ever had at Hong Kong and the chicas didn't argue about prices. I tipped them after the session. I usually go once every 4 months but this trip didn't really excite me to want to go again in a while.I would never expect good sex from Hong Kong's girls. Even if I was rich, this bar is not the one to be in. It's barely one step up from street girls with the "no touch, no kiss, no BBBJ, no sweat, are you done yet? Hong Kong is the club to go to first, get your free beer with coupon, give that Viagra some time to work, spend ten bucks on tips and watch a wip cream show. I remember four years ago girls in Hong Kong would often say 70, and even 60. And I still didn't bang them because in my head I'm thinking I can go on tinder and bang for free. Eventually I started paying girls in other bars at 60 dollar rate. That's my limit. I've been to hung Kong probably 80 times and slept with only three. And none were very good. Best girls are in other bars. And one truck, for cheaper sex, isbto have only 80 in your wallet. If 20 goes to the room and tip for cleaner, now you got 60 for her. Tell her "let me see if I have enough. If you count it, she may take 60". That's not really tricking her. She made the decision. Remember, thousands of woman are giving it up free down the street on revolution, so don't feel bad. She will make 400 night easy on weekends.
ChinaMan360
10-14-19, 23:17
I eventually tricked a Chica by saying yes to her $80 and when we got to the room I just pretended I misjudged how much money I had she accepted.
You shouldn't have gone up if you weren't OK with what you negotiated. Learn to negotiate better. Don't pull tricks.She could have always walked out of our arrangement right? It was 70 vs 80. If she wanted to lose out of $70 then that's her prerogative.
HK was playing all American music. I would love to hear more sensuous Latin music for a change.There are dozen's of bars in that one block, and many of them play nothing but Spanish music. HK is Gringo DizzyLand, so if you want to get closer to the culture, go elsewhere.
My favorite is El Norteno, where in the restroom, there's usually someone smoking something in a tiny glass pipe. And they sell 1-litre beers for less than what HK charges for a 12-ounce can!
RonFromSichuan
10-15-19, 17:36
Went to HK for the first time last night. Overall, the night was ok, but I made numerous mistakes of which I hope to avoid the next time I visit, most likely tonight.
The first mistake I made was drinking an energy drink right before crossing the border. Being that it was my first time in Tijuana, the extra caffeine made me jittery and extra nervous. The reason I drank the energy drink was because I wanted to have enough energy for a good night. But that did not happen at all (the energy part).
Second mistake: forgot the prices of taxi to HK. I ended up paying $8. Rookie mistake I will not make again. Alas, I was dropped off in front of HK and I walked up to Hotel Cascada. I had reserved a room online this past weekend, and planned to use the VIP card to take advantage of their 80% discount. However, I was informed by the receptionist that they did not receive a reservation from me and asked to see my email for confirmation. My phone was on airplane mode because I do not have international data roaming. The manager made me turn off Airplane mode and show them the reservation otherwise they could not give me a room. This ticked me off because who knows how much opening up that email cost me in data charges. After reading the email, the receptionist magically found my reservation, and off I went to drop off my stuff before heading downstairs.
Angry and still jittery from the energy drink, I walked into HK and was a bit overwhelmed. I ended up sitting at the bar on the left to try to collect myself. Because I do not like beer, I opted to order some shots. I ended up having about 5 in less than 30 minutes. During this time, a random girl comes to me, sits on my lap, and orders a drink for herself. Third mistake. I had no interest in her, yet I ended up spending $10 on her. I should have just ignored her.
The alcohol started hitting me, and I walked around the club, surveying the scene. After a few rounds, I settled on this tall, slender girl wearing a neon orange outfit. I invited her for a drink and to start the interview process. I really did want to bring her up, but she had too many restrictions. She wanted $100, no DFK, BBBJ, or COB. The best I could do was get her down to $80. And she was gulping her drink down. So I said bye to her and walked around some more. By this time, the 5 shots had hit me in full force. For some reason, I decided to go to my room, and on my way there I ran into these 2 guys. I started up a conversation with them, but I do not remember what we talked about. All I do remember is one of the guys giving me a 100 MG Viagra pill to use. I guess I must have told him I have serious whisky dick.
I go back downstairs, where I see this girl that catches my eye so I sit down with her. She had the same restrictions as the neon orange girl. After some negotiations, we agreed to $160 for one hour, BBBJ and COB. I wasn't getting the GFE vibe from her, so I knew I shouldn't take her up. But the 5 shots were in full effect so I said yes, and upstairs we went. Mistake number four. The session was forgettable, mostly because at this time I was blacked out and could not stay hard. I apologized to the girl multiple times, and she seemed understanding. Halfway through the session, I snuck half of the Viagra pill. It took about 15 minutes to kick in, but I was able to get hard and finish in time before our hour was up. After the girl showered and left, I debated what to do. I thought about calling it a night because it takes a while for me to reload. I ended up deciding I wanted to take another girl upstairs. So I took the rest of the Viagra pill. Mistake number five.
It was my first time taking Viagra, and shortly after taking the remaining 1/2 of the pill I started feeling weird. My breathing felt off, and I was feeling slight waves of nausea and body chills. Because of this weird feeling, I ended up not bringing a girl up for the remainder of the night. I ran into the 2 guys I met earlier in the night and we sat upstairs and admired the HK atmosphere. There was this one girl who passed by a few times who I was really interested in, but I didn't pursue her due to how I was feeling. She reminded me of a certain pornstar I like.
Later on, a girl sat down next to me. As soon as she sat down, a mesero swooped in and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink. She smiled at me, showing braces, which turned me off. But I said yes to a drink for her. She ended up staying with me for around half an hour, which I was pleasantly surprised about. We had mostly casual conversation. She asked if I wanted to go up with her, but I told her no and she didn't ask again. I specifically liked the fact that she was sipping her drink, and even told the meseros no when they came around pestering her if she wanted another one. She spent about 10 minutes on top of me, gyrating her hips. She was skilled and nearly got me to full mast, and if I wasn't feeling sick-ish I would have started negotiations with her. At the end, I tipped her and thanked her for her time.
It was approaching 1 AM, and I realized I hadn't eaten for 12 hours, and the occasional waves of nausea and irregular breathing was subsiding, so I decided to check out restaurant Azul. I was surprised to see the girl I was eyeing earlier here, the one who reminded me of a certain pornstar. She was sitting at a booth with a friend, who I assume is a fellow HK girl. I ordered a salad with chicken. I was very surprised by the size of my order, it was the size of a full meal for $6. However, after eating a few bites, the nausea and irregular breathing came back and I lost all appetite. I decided I had enough for tonight, so I paid for my meal, went to my room to get my stuff, and headed out of HK and towards the border.
Before I left, I extended my stay for an extra night. I had a memorable time in Hong Kong, but mostly not for good reasons. Tonight, I plan on going back and will most likely stay away from the alcohol, and especially any blue pills. Although alcohol does help me be more social with the girls, I definitely overdid it last night and things spiraled downhill. I'm hoping that girl I sat at restaurant Azul is working tonight. If so, I will definitely buy her a drink. I also hope I run into the girl that sat with me for 30 minutes. If I do, I will do a full interview.
Will report back tomorrow.
Captain Solo
10-15-19, 17:45
That's a good suggestion. I should try other bars for authentic Mexican / Latin music.
I like the bolero songs with the guitar, brooding, sweet and sad, like most Mexican girls. I don't much like the noisy brass bands in Chevelas or Malquerida. The bars should have better mixes of their music.
Carlos Santana was from Tijuana, had a great rock band with the best percussion. Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass played all the songs for James Bond's "Casino Royale. " It was a fun movie.
There are dozen's of bars in that one block, and many of them play nothing but Spanish music. HK is Gringo DizzyLand, so if you want to get closer to the culture, go elsewhere.
My favorite is El Norteno, where in the restroom, there's usually someone smoking something in a tiny glass pipe. And they sell 1-litre beers for less than what HK charges for a 12-ounce can!
Went to HK for the first time last night. Overall, the night was ok, but I made numerous mistakes of which I hope to avoid the next time I visit, most likely tonight.
The first mistake I made was drinking an energy drink right before crossing the border. Being that it was my first time in Tijuana, the extra caffeine made me jittery and extra nervous. The reason I drank the energy drink was because I wanted to have enough energy for a good night. But that did not happen at all (the energy part).
Second mistake: forgot the prices of taxi to HK. I ended up paying $8. Rookie mistake I will not make again. Alas, I was dropped off in front of HK and I walked up to Hotel Cascada. I had reserved a room online this past weekend, and planned to use the VIP card to take advantage of their 80% discount. However, I was informed by the receptionist that they did not receive a reservation from me and asked to see my email for confirmation. My phone was on airplane mode because I do not have international data roaming. The manager made me turn off Airplane mode and show them the reservation otherwise they could not give me a room. This ticked me off because who knows how much opening up that email cost me in data charges. After reading the email, the receptionist magically found my reservation, and off I went to drop off my stuff before heading downstairs.
Angry and still jittery from the energy drink, I walked into HK and was a bit overwhelmed. I ended up sitting at the bar on the left to try to collect myself. Because I do not like beer, I opted to order some shots. I ended up having about 5 in less than 30 minutes. During this time, a random girl comes to me, sits on my lap, and orders a drink for herself. Third mistake. I had no interest in her, yet I ended up spending $10 on her. I should have just ignored her..Yeah Viagra is a serious medication. It is not to be taken unless really needed. You didn't do so bad, nobody robbed you and you didn't wander to side streets. In general, expecting GFE from Hong Kong is a bad idea unless you got money to throw away. Go to other bars. And pinching pennies on cab fees, to then throw 160 on a girl for vhf upstairs is kind of reason Hong Kong girls will be asking for 150 in two years for ten minutes of sex. Don't pay a girl for a full hour. Unless you banged her before. Almost every girl wants you to finish within 8 minutes of putting yourself inside of her. They bang guys all night they don't want 20 minutes of you slamming her. So paying for an hour was your biggest mistake.
RonFromSichuan
10-16-19, 02:29
Yeah Viagra is a serious medication. It is not to be taken unless really needed. You didn't do so bad, nobody robbed you and you didn't wander to side streets. In general, expecting GFE from Hong Kong is a bad idea unless you got money to throw away. Go to other bars. And pinching pennies on cab fees, to then throw 160 on a girl for vhf upstairs is kind of reason Hong Kong girls will be asking for 150 in two years for ten minutes of sex. Don't pay a girl for a full hour. Unless you banged her before. Almost every girl wants you to finish within 8 minutes of putting yourself inside of her. They bang guys all night they don't want 20 minutes of you slamming her. So paying for an hour was your biggest mistake.Yea, paying for the hour was a big no-no on my part. I opted for the hour because I have mongered in Brazil and over there 1 hour GFE is standard. Which means the girl will be attentive to you for around 30 minutes, which is perfect for me. It's not that I can't finish in 30 minutes, I just hate being rushed, and hearing a phrase along the lines of "Are you almost done?" 10 minutes into the session Is a huge turnoff for me.
I am definitely going in with a different mindset tonight. I exchanged a bunch of my 20's for 10's and 5's earlier today, because I have a feeling I will be going through a lot of interviews tonight. As for drinking, I think I will stick to water / soda / juice. It will probably lead to smarter decisions. Anyways, I'm going to head out to HK soon. If all works well, I plan on staying the night in my room and crossing the border tomorrow morning. Will report back tomorrow.
Last Sunday night HK was packed. Unbelievable number of girls in there. Left about 9 pm after couple hours hanging out with buddy. Was interesting as some girls just give you that look like don't even ask if your hoping $80 as it ain't going to be happening.
Yeah Viagra is a serious medication. It is not to be taken unless really needed. You didn't do so bad, nobody robbed you and you didn't wander to side streets. In general, expecting GFE from Hong Kong is a bad idea unless you got money to throw away. Go to other bars. And pinching pennies on cab fees, to then throw 160 on a girl for vhf upstairs is kind of reason Hong Kong girls will be asking for 150 in two years for ten minutes of sex. Don't pay a girl for a full hour. Unless you banged her before. Almost every girl wants you to finish within 8 minutes of putting yourself inside of her. They bang guys all night they don't want 20 minutes of you slamming her. So paying for an hour was your biggest mistake.OMG Ron from Sichuan. I'm not a doctor but don't mix energy drink, 5 shots alcohol and viagra you may have a heart attack. (BTW it is not a good idea to take an unknown pill from unknown guys in Tijuana hotel). If I am taking viagra then only from the pharmacy the generic name viagra "Figral" and I drink only bottled or mineral water and only after sex I start to drink beer. Figral is OK (take 100mg about 1 hour before sex) but don't mix viagra (Figral) with alcohol.
RonFromSichuan
10-16-19, 21:58
OMG Ron from Sichuan. I'm not a doctor but don't mix energy drink, 5 shots alcohol and viagra you may have a heart attack. (BTW it is not a good idea to take an unknown pill from unknown guys in Tijuana hotel). If I am taking viagra then only from the pharmacy the generic name viagra "Figral" and I drink only bottled or mineral water and only after sex I start to drink beer. Figral is OK (take 100mg about 1 hour before sex) but don't mix viagra (Figral) with alcohol.Yup, that was a mistake I will not make again. There were some points during the night where I was afraid something was going to happen because my heartbeat was feeling really weird, but luckily nothing happened. Combining drugs, even if it's only caffeine and alcohol, usually ends up really bad for me, and Monday night was yet another reminder why I should just stick to one drug.
Anyways, I just got back to my Airbnb. Last night at Hong Kong was very memorable for me, and I definitely learned from my mistakes the first night and ensured I did not make them a second time in a row. I will write a full report about my experience tonight.
Yea, paying for the hour was a big no-no on my part. I opted for the hour because I have mongered in Brazil and over there 1 hour GFE is standard. Which means the girl will be attentive to you for around 30 minutes, which is perfect for me. It's not that I can't finish in 30 minutes, I just hate being rushed, and hearing a phrase along the lines of "Are you almost done?" 10 minutes into the session Is a huge turnoff for me.
I am definitely going in with a different mindset tonight. I exchanged a bunch of my 20's for 10's and 5's earlier today, because I have a feeling I will be going through a lot of interviews tonight. As for drinking, I think I will stick to water / soda / juice. It will probably lead to smarter decisions. Anyways, I'm going to head out to HK soon. If all works well, I plan on staying the night in my room and crossing the border tomorrow morning. Will report back tomorrow.I from Chengdu too, hope we speak the same dialect. I will visit HK club on Nov 9 and 10 for the first time. Really want to meet a few new friends, because it's too hard to kill 2 days alone. If you plan to join me, let me know, I will buy you drink and food.
Captain Solo
10-16-19, 23:13
I Whatsapp Cici in the morning. She agreed to a half-hour session at 11 PM in Cascada. Arrived in HK, I changed the time to 9 PM and she was OK with it. Texted her my room number. She said she was 7 minutes away and could find my room in Cascada no problem.
She got to my room right on time in her black dress, smiling sweetly like a little girl, her frizzy blonde hair dashed with blue streaks. I wasted no time embracing her lanky body, grabbing her butt, squeezing her boobs, sucking on her tongue and lips, helping her take her clothes off.
She said she would take a shower. I watched her wash herself, put the porn channel on; a pretty blonde was being rammed by a guy, gasping, groaning. I helped her dry up and get to bed. She was hungrily sucking on my mouth and tongue, her hand caressing my dick, like she wanted sex badly.
I was alternately kissing her mouth, sucking on her tits, fingering her clit and her coochie. She spoke enough English, said she liked it a lot, asking me to go slow and gentle. She said she would only do everything with a condom, started to give me a vigorous CBJ. I quickly had a raging hard on for this girl, pinned her down, pumping her furiously, switching to CG, doggie then back to mish, squeezing each other in a tight embrace. She was breathing heavily, whining, gasping, at times mumbling and speaking in Japanese. I was pumping her for a long time, finally collapsed on top of her.
We laid back, caressing each other. I asked her for another round and she complied, kissing me tenderly on my face and my chest like a baby. She put on a new condom, gave me a long CBJ, but I could not get an erection and told her to stop. We just laid back holding each other, watching the porn.
She said she is going to school in Cosmetology so cannot work in HK. She also confirmed a fetish in Japanese anime. She's a beautiful young girl with loving attitudes, reliable with appointments, aiming to please, delivering hot, sexy sessions. She would do long sessions and overnight dates.
Any bro considering sessions with her, PM me for her tel #.
ChinaMan360
10-17-19, 03:56
Yup, that was a mistake I will not make again. There were some points during the night where I was afraid something was going to happen because my heartbeat was feeling really weird, but luckily nothing happened. Combining drugs, even if it's only caffeine and alcohol, usually ends up really bad for me, and Monday night was yet another reminder why I should just stick to one drug.
Anyways, I just got back to my Airbnb. Last night at Hong Kong was very memorable for me, and I definitely learned from my mistakes the first night and ensured I did not make them a second time in a row. I will write a full report about my experience tonight.Drink some green tea if you want to stay up without getting the jitters. That's what I do. I always bring a bottle of water across the border too. Usually I just take half a pill of Viagra and that's good enough for me. Oh and I love smoking out of my weed pen and the chicas love me having it. I don't like taking shots because I'm trying to not get wasted. It's too bad you don't like beer. You can sip that all day long in the club. Hope your second visit is better!
I from Chengdu too, hope we speak the same dialect. I will visit HK club on Nov 9 and 10 for the first time. Really want to meet a few new friends, because it's too hard to kill 2 days alone. If you plan to join me, let me know, I will buy you drink and food.Hi Steve888,
I will be at HK from Nov 9-11. I speak some Spanish and I usually hang out around Kowloon bar or between the north men's room and the stairs.
IncognitoTJ
10-17-19, 07:28
I from Chengdu too, hope we speak the same dialect. I will visit HK club on Nov 9 and 10 for the first time. Really want to meet a few new friends, because it's too hard to kill 2 days alone. If you plan to join me, let me know, I will buy you drink and food.If you need to make a friend that speaks Chinese, the owner of Sushi One, Situ is your guy. He is fluent in Mandarin, Spanish, and English, and the food there is pretty good.
Sushi One is across the street from Adelitas.
RonFromSichuan
10-17-19, 20:36
Tuesday, 10/15/19:
I headed out to HK later than I would have liked. I had spent the day renting a bicycle and riding to La Jolla. The scenery, temperature, and skyline were all amazing. I estimate I biked around 10 miles in total. The biking, along with the fact that I only got 3 hours of sleep the previous night, meant that I needed to take a nap before going to HK. I tried sleeping but was only able to fall asleep for 30 minutes as I was anticipating what would happen later on in the night. I was also thinking about an idea I had this morning, which was to bring some 420 edibles across the border with me to enjoy HK. So instead of drinking, I would take an edible or two and be good for the night. After some debate about the cost / benefits of my decision, I decided to do it.
I left my place around 7 PM and took an Uber to the Trolley Station, where I took the blue line to the last stop, San Ysidro. From there, I went through border security, then walked down the path and took a taxi to HK. I arrived, and headed up the stairs to the Hotel Cascadas Reception desk. Because I had stayed the previous night, I was able to get the same room. I was pleasantly surprised to see the room had been cleaned when I opened the door.
I dropped off my stuff, and ate an edible. I laid in bed listening to some music, waiting for the edible to kick in. About 40 minutes later, I was feeling it, so I headed downstairs to the club. My main goal was to look for the 2 girls I was eyeing last night: the girl who reminded me of this one pornstar I like, and the girl who was grinding on me last night. Unfortunately, I not see either of them during my first 3 walkthroughs.
The girls were overall more attractive compared to Monday night. I recognized some from Monday, but there were also a lot of new faces. There was this one girl that looked especially stunning, she looked like she came straight out of an American hip hop music video. She was wearing a black fishnet outfit and had her waist-length hair in a ponytail. I briefly entertained the idea to bring her up without any negotiations. But because I did not see either of the 2 girls I was looking for, I moved on to plan be: try to find a natural girl to give me a GFE. The girl I mentioned earlier in this paragraph did not fit that description, so unfortunately she was not an option for me.
I made my way to the second floor, where I found a seat by the wall and sat down. Every so often, a girl or two would walk past. I ordered some pineapple juice, and soaked in the atmosphere. I was sipping my drink when this cute, petite girl asks if she can sit down next to me. I said sure. I thought she was going to ask me for a drink, but she pulls our her phone and starts texting someone. This girl looked young, and her red lingerie outfit with black boots was eye catching. She had a small rack, but it was natural, and the red lingerie was asking me to take a closer look, so I obliged. I caught her attention, and motioned for her to come closer to me. She does, and I ask if she wants a drink. She nods her head, and out of a nowhere a mesero swooped in and took her order.
The girl introduced herself as Bunny, pronounced "Boo. Knee". She is from Monterrey. Unfortunately, she didn't speak English, which meant most of our conversation would be going through Google Translate. I tried asking her how long she has been working at HK, but her answer got lost in translation. But I think she is relatively new at HK. Upon closer inspection, her body was overall attractive, her skin smooth. I did feel and see what looked to be some pregnancy stretch marks around her stomach area. She asked me if I had kids, to which I replied no. I asked her if she did, and she nodded yes, and pointed to her tattoo on her right forearm showing a little girl and two little boys.
During our conversation, she sipped her drink slowly, alternating between sitting next to me and sitting on top of me, moving her hips in a clockwise pattern. I tipped her $1 and she let me caress her boobs. They felt bigger and softer than I expected. There was this middle aged Asian guy who was at the table in front of us overlooking the first floor. This guy was absolutely going crazy, grinding and twerking in front of the girl he was with. One minute he was sitting next to her, holding her hand. The next minute he was on top of her, gyrating his hips, unbuttoning his shirt, and dancing wildly. A minute later, he was trying to dry hump her. At one point, it looked like he was about to tip over the railing, but it turned out to be one of his many dance moves. It was honestly very entertaining to watch, and at one point a few girls stopped by his table and clapped, urging him on.
I asked Bunny what she thought about him, and she said he is loco. She told me he brought her upstairs on Sunday but As she was nearing the end of her drink, I decided to ask her how much it would cost to bring her upstairs. She said 120. I told her that the maximum I could do would be 80, plus a tip. She lowered her number down to 100. I told her that the maximum I could do would be 80, plus a tip. She said OK. I asked her if she was willing to let me do DFK. She said OK. I asked about a BBBJ. She said OK, as long as I was clean. I asked about COB and she said yes to that also. I told her that I have a room upstairs so we could take our time, and she was fine with that.
The only red flag I noticed during my interview is that she would occasionally go on her phone to text some people. But I ignored it, and thankfully it didn't come back to bite me. She was attentive in bed.
We continued to feel each other's bodies, with occasional conversation thrown in. She appeared to be sad when I told her it was my last night in HK during this trip. I learned that she is flying back to Monterrey on Sunday because her 21st birthday was this coming Monday. I joked to her that I was an early birthday present for her, and she gave me this sly side smile. A smile that signaled it was time for me to bring her upstairs.
We walk past the curtain, to the robe guy, and out into the street for a few seconds before turning right and walking up the stairs to Hotel Cascada. I lead her to the elevator and up we go, to the floor I was staying on. The elevator door opens, and I invite for her to sit next to me on the couch that was right there. She does, and I snuggle up to her. I ask if we can take a picture, and she said sure. I took out my phone and we took a few selfies together. Then, she takes our her phone to do the same. This was the first time a working girl has asked to take a picture of us together, so I was definitely surprised, but in a good way. She takes a few selfies of us, and we snuggle together for a bit. She rests her face against my chest.
A minute later, the elevator door opens and two people walk out, a guy with his girl. There was one person left, and it was the Nigerian guy I talked to the previous night, before I took the blue pill. We make eye contact and he does the head nod. The elevator door closes. I ask her if she smokes and she says sometimes. I tell her I have some edibles in my room and asks if she wants some. She is confused by what they look like so I take her hand and lead her to my room.
I show her the edibles I had and offer her a piece. I did tell her if she were to take a piece to only take a small bite of it. She says that she does not want to eat any now because she has been drinking. I told her that is a smart idea. She tells me I can eat it if I want. I didn't drink, so I decide to eat 1/2 of another edible. I tell her I have a speaker and asks if she wants some music to be played. She says yes, and connects her phone to my speak via Bluetooth. She picks a song I have never heard of, and the fun begins.
Our overall session was great. As previously stated, I noticed she was on her phone texting occasionally, and I was partially worried that she would continue that behavior during our session. Thankfully, she didn't. She gave a good BBBJ, although it was a bit shorter than I would have liked. DFK was also enjoyable. I never felt rushed during the session at any point. Due to the pregnancy stretch marks, doggy and reverse cowgirl were the main positions emphasized. During these positions, she would occasionally turn her head and make eye contact with me, which I appreciated. I last around 30 minutes before I cannot hold it any longer, finishing on her chest.
She cleans herself off, and then comes back to my bed and we lay there. I give her the amount of money we agreed to, plus a tip. At this point, I am feeling really good and just want to relax. I take out my phone and ask for some more pictures together, and she takes a few. She asks if she can have a Tecate beer from my minibar, and I say yes. She mentions that she can spend the whole night with me, we can just chill in my room and listen to some music, drink some beer and have some edibles. Although I like Bunny, I did not like her enough to want to spend the rest of the night with her. I wanted some time by myself to recharge before going back out downstairs. I tell her that I am planning on going back downstairs later, but she can hang out here for now until I go.
She mentions something about my edibles and I offer it to her again. She takes a small bite out of the one that was half eaten, and I finish the rest. She asks if I have any more, and I tell her I have one more piece (I actually had two pieces but wanted one for myself later). She asks if she can have it to go, and I pack it in a zip lock bag for her. We go back down to lying down next to each other, her on her phone and sipping a second beer, and me just enjoying the music and her company.
At one point, I thought about her children and imagined what her home life was like. I started to feel a little bad for her. And that is when I realized I had to get her out of my room, before I started to develop feelings for her. I tell her that I am going back to HK, and she seems sad she has to leave also but understands. She gets dressed and we head out towards the elevator.
Back in HK club, I walked a few rounds, but didn't find anyone so I decided to head to my room and relax a bit. I took a shower and debated what to do. I realized I hadn't eaten in a while. I went back to HK and found Bunny on the second floor, she was sitting alone on her phone. I invited her to come with me to eat at Restaurant Azul, but she said she couldn't. Her answer when I asked why was lost in translation, she said they wouldn't let her eat there tonight. She offered to come to my room and we could eat, but I did not want that. So I gave her a small tip to which she was grateful for, kissed her on the cheek, and headed to Restaurant Azul, where I sat at a table overlooking the street. I ordered an octopus dish and a bottle of water and watched the action below, waiting for my food to arrive. One of the highlights was watching this dealer at work, calmly doing business in the middle of everything else going on. This guy must be well known, because every 30 seconds or so he was doing another transaction. It was pretty cool to have a birds eye view of everything going on. The waiter came back and told me they did not have octopus, so I settled for some salmon teriyaki instead. The portions were huge, but I was hungry and in a good mood so I took my time and finished nearly all the food. After paying for my food, which came out to $11 or $12, I headed back to my room to decide what to do for the rest of the night.
Part of me wanted to just call it a night, but being that this was my last night in Zona Norte, I wanted to take advantage of it. So I took out my last piece of edible, ate half, and went downstairs to HK observe the action. The crowd was starting to thin out by then, being that it was after 2 AM. I found a seat on the second floor against the wall. A fellow monger next to me started a conversation, and we chat for a bit. A girl comes up to me and offers to "fucky fast" for $80. I decline, but offer to buy her a drink. She accepts, and she sits on top of me, placing my hands on her fake rack. I spend around 10 minutes with her before leaving because I spotted the girl who sat with me last night.
I go downstairs, find her. She recognizes me instantly. I bring her upstairs to a table overlooking the first floor and she orders a drink. She asks if I want to go upstairs, and I tell her that I am tapped out for the night. So we just sit and talk. I forgot her name from last night and didn't want to ask her again. I noticed she had a tattoo on the right side of her body, just under her neck bone. I ask her about it and she says its the Gemini constellation. It turns out she is into horoscopes. During our time together, I see Bunny with another Asian guy. We make eye contact for a split second before I look away. She leaves with him after 10 minutes, I assume to go upstairs. Time passes, and I see that is past 3:30 AM. I tell Gemini that I am going to go upstairs to sleep soon. She understood, and told me to sleep well after having mucho sex. I tip her for her time, and head upstairs to my room, where I finish the last half of the edible before passing out shortly before 4 AM.
Wednesday, 10/16/19:
I wake up around 8:30 AM. I lay in bed, pondering what to do. I think about bringing a girl up one last time, but I am unsure when I have to leave by. I call the reception desk to ask what time checkout was. The guy replies 1 PM. Perfect, enough time for me to bring one more girl up and also eat at Restaurant Azul before heading out. I use the bathroom, take a quick shower, get dressed, and head down to the club to see what it's like. Unsurprisingly, it was pretty empty when I got there around 9:15 AM. I would estimate there was around 20 girls, but most of them were sitting down. This particular morning, I was looking for a "wham bam, thank you ma'am" quick experience. I took a quick walkthrough before deciding on this one girl wearing yellow bra and panties. I invite her to sit down with me and order a drink for her.
She introduces herself as Amy. She is 22 years old, from Mexico City, and has been working at HK for 4 months. She is thin with a nice natural rack and super smooth skin. Because I was on a time constraint, I get to the negotiations rather quickly. She tells me it would cost $100 to bring her up, but I negotiate her down to $70 plus tip. She would not agree to give me a BBBJ, but I was OK with that because of time constraints. I set a timer for 5 minutes, we caress each other until the timer goes off, and to my room we go.
The session was over in 20 minutes, but that was what I was looking for. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of her CBJ, as it felt pretty damn good, and I am not a fan of CBJ at all. She was open to occasional kissing. Most of our time was spent in doggy, where I thrusted until I ended up nutting inside her. It felt great, she took a quick shower, we took a farewell picture together, and out the door she went.
After she left, I took a shower before heading to Restaurant Azul to eat. I order some Paella, Towards the end of my meal, a fellow monger sits down at a table next to me and starts up a conversation. He tells me he lives in San Diego and has been coming to HK for 2 years. He asks how long I am here for, and I tell him I am leaving in an hour. I ask him about the border wait at this time of day, and he tells me he doesn't walk across the border. He tells me he met someone in Tijuana who is willing to drive him from HK to his place in San Diego. When he wants to come to HK, he calls his guy up and the guy will come to his place in San Diego and drive him to the front door of HK. He tells me he is meeting this HK girl at a bar nearby. He said that this girl has a passport, and she agreed to go back to his place in San Diego to have fun. I wish him a fun trip, he gives me his business card in case I want to contact him about anything HK related.
I head back to my room, pack my belongings, and head to the reception desk to check out. It takes me about 20 minutes to get my mini bar deposit back because I did not get the supposed slip of paper they give you when checking in. Luckily, the security guy working in the morning was able to go upstairs with me and verify what was consumed, which was only the 2 beers from Bunny last night. I finally get my deposit back, then I head down the stairs out into the street, where I take a taxi to the border.
The wait was about 30 minutes long. The border agent that I spoke to was the same guy I spoke to the previous night when I was messed up. The first night, he tried asking me some trick questions to mess me up, such as "When was the last time you crossed the border from Mexico back into the US?" (This was a trick question because it was my first time crossing back from Mexico). Thankfully, this time he was cooler. Because he recognized me, he only asked me the one required question. I answered it, and walked through the gate and towards the doors, back on the other side. Being that I was back in the US, I could use my phone again. I turned off airplane mode and ordered an Uber to my destination.
Summary: Hong Kong was a lot more enjoyable for me the second time around. Having a different mindset really made things better for me, and sticking only to my edibles was a smart decision on my part. I find it cool how Hong Kong is known worldwide, and I can see why people would fly many hours to come here and experience what it's like. At first, I was nervous coming down by myself, and that contributed to my poor decision making the first night.
My advice to people who are thinking about coming alone but are scared to do so is: just come on down. You will find mongers of all ages and ethnicities, so it doesn't matter how old you are. Have an idea of which types of girls you want to spend time with. If you don't speak Spanish well, make sure you have Google Translate on your phone. The VIP card is definitely worth it if you come on a Monday / Tuesday, my room cost me $15 for the night. Come here with an open mind, you don't have to bring anyone upstairs. If you do decide to bring someone upstairs, always negotiate with them first so you both have a clear idea of what services will be or not be provided upstairs. Do your best to relax and just have fun, whether it's with a girl or just chilling and watching the shows going on.
I am sincerely sad that my time in Hong Kong has come to an end, but I definitely plan on visiting again some time in the future. Next time, I plan on visiting some bars / clubs down the block. To my fellow mongers, have fun and stay safe.
OrganicAlo
10-17-19, 22:42
Tuesday, 10/15/19:
She asked me if I had kids, to which I replied no. I asked her if she did, and she nodded yes, and pointed to her tattoo on her right forearm showing a little girl and two little boys.Great report, thanks. This girl sounds familiar, what does she look like?
Tuesday, 10/15/19:
I headed out to HK later than I would have liked. I had spent the day renting a bicycle and riding to La Jolla. The scenery, temperature, and skyline were all amazing. I estimate I biked around 10 miles in total. The biking, along with the fact that I only got 3 hours of sleep the previous night, meant that I needed to take a nap before going to HK. I tried sleeping but was only able to fall asleep for 30 minutes as I was anticipating what would happen later on in the night. I was also thinking about an idea I had this morning, which was to bring some 420 edibles across the border with me to enjoy HK. So instead of drinking, I would take an edible or two and be good for the night. After some debate about the cost / benefits of my decision, I decided to do it.
I left my place around 7 PM and took an Uber to the Trolley Station, where I took the blue line to the last stop, San Ysidro. From there, I went through border security, then walked down the path and took a taxi to HK. I arrived, and headed up the stairs to the Hotel Cascadas Reception desk. Because I had stayed the previous night, I was able to get the same room. I was pleasantly surprised to see the room had been cleaned when I opened the door.
I dropped off my stuff, and ate an edible. I laid in bed listening to some music, waiting for the edible to kick in. About 40 minutes later, I was feeling it, so I headed downstairs to the club. My main goal was to look for the 2 girls I was eyeing last night: the girl who reminded me of this one pornstar I like, and the girl who was grinding on me last night. Unfortunately, I not see either of them during my first 3 walkthroughs...If enough people find out you have weed, someone's gonna tell the police for that kickback money when they arrest you. You shouldn't feel bad about the girls having sex for money. We have brothels in United states. Every city in USA has few thousand escorts. Right now, in Washington DC they are trying to decriminalize prostitution. They are afraid though it will become a sex tourist spot LOL. Hong Kong 2. Two blocks from the White House. Imagine the block in Baltimore once prostitution becomes legal. And you won't find a college girl in NYC not making at least 3000 a month for sex with men who's wives don't give it up.
Tuesday, 10/15/19:
I am sincerely sad that my time in Hong Kong has come to an end, but I definitely plan on visiting again some time in the future. Next time, I plan on visiting some bars / clubs down the block. To my fellow mongers, have fun and stay safe.Thank you for your detailed report. I really want to make friend with you.
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RonFromSichuan
10-17-19, 23:52
I from Chengdu too, hope we speak the same dialect. I will visit HK club on Nov 9 and 10 for the first time. Really want to meet a few new friends, because it's too hard to kill 2 days alone. If you plan to join me, let me know, I will buy you drink and food.Thank you for the offer, but unfortunately I will not be around during the days you are visiting. I saw a good amount of Asian mongers during my time in HK, and there is a good chance some of them will speak the same dialect as you. Have fun in HK and tell us what your experience is like.
Drink some green tea if you want to stay up without getting the jitters. That's what I do. I always bring a bottle of water across the border too. Usually I just take half a pill of Viagra and that's good enough for me. Oh and I love smoking out of my weed pen and the chicas love me having it. I don't like taking shots because I'm trying to not get wasted. It's too bad you don't like beer. You can sip that all day long in the club. Hope your second visit is better!Thanks for the advice. Green tea is always a good choice, I am not sure why I didn't think of that. As for my relationship with beer, drinking beer makes me go to the bathroom constantly. Which is OK if I am just relaxing, but not when I am upstairs with a girl and there is a time limit.
As for weed, I did bring some edibles with me on my second visit (see my report for more details), and it was a great decision and definitely made my night better. The only thing with edibles, at least from my experience, is it makes me less social because I just want to sit and chill. I don't know if I would have the courage to bring a pen through the border so that is why I stuck to edibles. Much easier to hide. Kudos to you for bringing in the pen, it is definitely a good way to vibe with the girls.
Good to know Ronfromsichuan had a good experience with her and she didn't try to up sell him in the room.
Two of my friends had not so good experience from her. Me, personally I couldn't stand her. Sometimes tries to make me jealous. Oh please!
Nice to hear she's leaving on Sunday back To MTY, so I won't see her anymore for a while.
Have no idea why CBP is limited to this unknown question for Ron?
Help!
RonfromSichuan:
He only asked me the one required question he only asked me the one required question.
RonFromSichuan
10-18-19, 17:37
Great report, thanks. This girl sounds familiar, what does she look like?Petite (I would say max 5'0), straight black hair shoulder length, tattoo of her children on her right forearm. The night I met her, she had on red lipstick and red outfit, which contrasted well with her black high heeled ankle boots and black leg strap wraps.
If enough people find out you have weed, someone's gonna tell the police for that kickback money when they arrest you. You shouldn't feel bad about the girls having sex for money. We have brothels in United states. Every city in USA has few thousand escorts. Right now, in Washington DC they are trying to decriminalize prostitution. They are afraid though it will become a sex tourist spot LOL. Hong Kong 2. Two blocks from the White House. Imagine the block in Baltimore once prostitution becomes legal. And you won't find a college girl in NYC not making at least 3000 a month for sex with men who's wives don't give it up.Thanks for the heads up about keeping the edibles on the DL.
And I honestly do not understand why brothels are illegal in the US. It is sad how the media and society denounces our hobby and makes it seem like marriage is a cure all, happily ever after pill. If only more people would venture out and discover the fun that can be had at places like HK, I believe the world would be a better place.
There was this one escort in the US I was thinking about contacting last month, but her rate for one hour was more than what I spent in my 2 nights at HK so I think I made the right decision.
As for the whole marriage topic, I am lucky to have learned the downfalls of marriage when I was young. Forever is a long time, and I am not willing to gamble on anybody for that period of time.
Thank you for your detailed report. I really want to make friend with you.
I appreciate the gesture. I wish I could join you on your trip to HK next month. Have fun, follow the advice you read on this thread, and you will have a great time.
Good to know Ronfromsichuan had a good experience with her and she didn't try to up sell him in the room.
Two of my friends had not so good experience from her. Me, personally I couldn't stand her. Sometimes tries to make me jealous. Oh please!
Nice to hear she's leaving on Sunday back To MTY, so I won't see her anymore for a while.I am sorry to hear your friends had a bad experience with her. Upselling would be a huge turnoff for me, especially if we agreed to a certain price and specific services beforehand.
I guess I got lucky with her in the sense that she liked me. At first I thought she was pretending like most girls do, but when she took out her phone to take a selfie of us together, I realized that she didn't view me as a regular customer. I just wish my Spanish was up to par so I could have had a more in depth conversation with her.
Hey everyone,
Planning another trip down to Tijuana with the boys. Planning on staying at HK 3 nights throughout the week. (Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday).
I was just curious about how exactly the VIP card works. I've looked throughout this forum but seem to have stumbled on conflicting reports, so hoping someone can clarify.
According to HK -- it's 80% off Monday and Tuesday, and 20% off rest of the week with VIP. But how long does the VIP card last? And more specifically, how many nights can I get the discount with the same card? Like, can I apply the discount to 3 nights? (In this case save 80% Monday and then another 20% for each of Sunday and Wednesday).
That would be essentially save me 48 bucks on Monday, and then another 12 for Sunday and Wednesday. Essentially save more than it costs.
I haven't bothered asking every time I've gone, but I keep seeing people talk about the card, so was just curious exactly how long it's good for and how many nights you can apply the hotel discount.
Also, do these discounts apply to the suites? Considering Mondays and Tuesdays with VIP are 80% it might be cool but seems like that isn't something they offer.
And for that matter, are the other VIP card perks worth it?
Thanks very much! Promise I'll type up a report of my trip again when I'm back.
Thanks amigos.
OrganicAlo
10-19-19, 01:53
Petite (I would say max 5'0), straight black hair shoulder length, tattoo of her children on her right forearm. The night I met her, she had on red lipstick and red outfit, which contrasted well with her black high heeled ankle boots and black leg strap wraps.I think I took this same girl up on my trip two weeks ago, she told me her name was Critzal and was wearing a different outfit.
I remember her showing me a tattoo on her arm and it was of a few kids, her only tattoo, she was 19 too I believe.
Was the tattoo fairly small, centered on the inside of her forearm?
Petite (I would say max 5'0), straight black hair shoulder length, tattoo of her children on her right forearm. The night I met her, she had on red lipstick and red outfit, which contrasted well with her black high heeled ankle boots and black leg strap wraps.
Thanks for the heads up about keeping the edibles on the DL.
And I honestly do not understand why brothels are illegal in the US. It is sad how the media and society denounces our hobby and makes it seem like marriage is a cure all, happily ever after pill. If only more people would venture out and discover the fun that can be had at places like HK, I believe the world would be a better place.
There was this one escort in the US I was thinking about contacting last month, but her rate for one hour was more than what I spent in my 2 nights at HK so I think I made the right decision.
As for the whole marriage topic, I am lucky to have learned the downfalls of marriage when I was young. Forever is a long time, and I am not willing to gamble on anybody for that period of time.
I appreciate the gesture. I wish I could join you on your trip to HK next month. Have fun, follow the advice you read on this thread, and you will have a great time.
I am sorry to hear your friends had a bad experience with her. Upselling would be a huge turnoff for me, especially if we agreed to a certain price and specific services beforehand.
I guess I got lucky with her in the sense that she liked me. At first I thought she was pretending like most girls do, but when she took out her phone to take a selfie of us together, I realized that she didn't view me as a regular customer. I just wish my Spanish was up to par so I could have had a more in depth conversation with her........"And I honestly do not understand why brothels are illegal in the US. It is sad how the media and society denounces our hobby and makes it seem like marriage is a cure all, happily ever after pill. If only more people would venture out and discover the fun that can be had at places like HK, I believe the world would be a better place. "........ - Prostitution was legal in many states before 1914. When women got the right to vote after 1914, they voted to outlaw prostitution. For example, San Francisco (Barbary Coast district had around 50 brothels), New Orleans (Storyville district had a lot of brothels), Manhattan NY, Texas, Alaska and western US had also legal brothels and prostitution. You can read on Wikipedia and Google "History of prostitution in the USA".
Hey everyone,
Planning another trip down to Tijuana with the boys. Planning on staying at HK 3 nights throughout the week. (Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday).
I was just curious about how exactly the VIP card works. I've looked throughout this forum but seem to have stumbled on conflicting reports, so hoping someone can clarify.
According to HK -- it's 80% off Monday and Tuesday, and 20% off rest of the week with VIP. But how long does the VIP card last? And more specifically, how many nights can I get the discount with the same card? Like, can I apply the discount to 3 nights? (In this case save 80% Monday and then another 20% for each of Sunday and Wednesday).
That would be essentially save me 48 bucks on Monday, and then another 12 for Sunday and Wednesday. Essentially save more than it costs.
I haven't bothered asking every time I've gone, but I keep seeing people talk about the card, so was just curious exactly how long it's good for and how many nights you can apply the hotel discount..Yes, the VIP discount applies to all nights, in your case 20% / 80% / 20%. And yes, the discount applies to the suites. It's well worth it to get the Jacuzzi suite on Mon / Tues.
As for other perks, sure. You will have more than paid for your card after your hotel stay. But, yes, you get a free beer (or your drink of choice) every 12 hours, free transport to and from border, lap dance discounts (if that's your thing). For me, the hotel discount and free beers make it worth it.
Enjoy.
Wow, that's a pretty awesome deal with the suites. Thanks for the info!
Yes, the VIP discount applies to all nights, in your case 20% / 80% / 20%. And yes, the discount applies to the suites. It's well worth it to get the Jacuzzi suite on Mon / Tues.
As for other perks, sure. You will have more than paid for your card after your hotel stay. But, yes, you get a free beer (or your drink of choice) every 12 hours, free transport to and from border, lap dance discounts (if that's your thing). For me, the hotel discount and free beers make it worth it.
Enjoy.
Wow. That is quite a report Ron.
Good to hear the adventure and so cool you gave the advice at the end about people scared to come down and how once your down at HK. Most fears go away and you just need to be careful but not paranoid!
I am looking forward to trip toward your part of the world more over Christmas. Singapore, Kuala Lumpur & Phuket.
Goyo.
Tuesday, 10/15/19:
I headed out to HK later than I would have liked. I had spent the day renting a bicycle and riding to La Jolla. The scenery, temperature, and skyline were all amazing. I estimate I biked around 10 miles in total. The biking, along with the fact that I only got 3 hours of sleep the previous night, meant that I needed to take a nap before going to HK. I tried sleeping but was only able to fall asleep for 30 minutes as I was anticipating what would happen later on in the night. I was also thinking about an idea I had this morning, which was to bring some 420 edibles across the border with me to enjoy HK. So instead of drinking, I would take an edible or two and be good for the night. After some debate about the cost / benefits of my decision, I decided to do it.
I left my place around 7 PM and took an Uber to the Trolley Station, where I took the blue line to the last stop, San Ysidro. From there, I went through border security, then walked down the path and took a taxi to HK. I arrived, and headed up the stairs to the Hotel Cascadas Reception desk. Because I had stayed the previous night, I was able to get the same room. I was pleasantly surprised to see the room had been cleaned when I opened the door..
DramaFree11
10-20-19, 19:54
Just finished another great Saturday night at HK. Was with one of my main girls at Azul, next to us was a super hot girl from Mexico City. We invited her over and 2 hours later the rest is history. Too much fun!
Word of caution the ATM machines outside if Adelitas unless I miss read so be careful. Was my fault lost money at the casino. Lesson learned.
What time does HK start charging cover charge. ?
TerOnlyOnce
10-21-19, 19:10
Anyone figure out how to avoid paying before sex yet? When I was there all the girls required payment up front except for 1. And they all shorted the session to 15 minutes except for one. How do you avoid this? Is it possible to turn away a girl once she is in your room? For example, she demands money upfront or there is a disagreement. Can you tell her no, will she start fighting and yelling at you, and refuse to leave unless you tip her $20? I imagine the girl getting wild and upset if you want to turn her away in the room.
How hard is it to find a main girl? I don't live in SD so can only come down once every few months. There's hot girls in HK yeah but they all suck except for a handful. They short your session to 15 minutes and demand payment upfront. You see all these perfect asses in the club and get sad inside when you realize all those beautiful bootys are going to give you a 15 minute session for $80 and demand the money upfront. It's so sad, brings a tear to my eye. Can anyone relate?
Sushi One is across the street from Adelitas.Thanks a lot. I will try Sushi One for sure.
RonFromSichuan
10-22-19, 00:45
Anyone figure out how to avoid paying before sex yet? When I was there all the girls required payment up front except for 1. And they all shorted the session to 15 minutes except for one. How do you avoid this? Is it possible to turn away a girl once she is in your room? For example, she demands money upfront or there is a disagreement. Can you tell her no, will she start fighting and yelling at you, and refuse to leave unless you tip her $20? I imagine the girl getting wild and upset if you want to turn her away in the room.
How hard is it to find a main girl? I don't live in SD so can only come down once every few months. There's hot girls in HK yeah but they all suck except for a handful. They short your session to 15 minutes and demand payment upfront. You see all these perfect asses in the club and get sad inside when you realize all those beautiful bootys are going to give you a 15 minute session for $80 and demand the money upfront. It's so sad, brings a tear to my eye. Can anyone relate?You can avoid this is by asking her these questions during the interview process. Tell her that you will pay her after you are finished. If she says no, then move onto another girl. You will have wasted $10, but that is better than spending $80 for a 15 minute session.
Luckily, so far I have never gotten into an argument with a girl upstairs. A big reason is because I have been following the advice of more senior mongers who post on this thread. They have listed countless tips and tidbits of advice to make your experience in HK better and lessen your chance of getting suckered.
What is your process like? Are you just grabbing a girl and bringing her upstairs?
DramaFree11
10-22-19, 00:45
Anyone figure out how to avoid paying before sex yet? When I was there all the girls required payment up front except for 1. And they all shorted the session to 15 minutes except for one. How do you avoid this? Is it possible to turn away a girl once she is in your room? For example, she demands money upfront or there is a disagreement. Can you tell her no, will she start fighting and yelling at you, and refuse to leave unless you tip her $20? I imagine the girl getting wild and upset if you want to turn her away in the room.
How hard is it to find a main girl? I don't live in SD so can only come down once every few months. There's hot girls in HK yeah but they all suck except for a handful. They short your session to 15 minutes and demand payment upfront. You see all these perfect asses in the club and get sad inside when you realize all those beautiful bootys are going to give you a 15 minute session for $80 and demand the money upfront. It's so sad, brings a tear to my eye. Can anyone relate?Just not going to happen at HK and if you insist on this it will just cause Drama. If you rent a room for the night, you get all kinds of extra time. You just have to play the game. When I realized this my experience at HK, started to change. Not saying I have bad experiences, but big deal $80, that is not going to change your life.
Found this solid 10 girl name Lizbeth. Attractive girl even in college chick standard. Light skin, great soft tits, which I think they are natural. Speak okay English. She also got one of the smoothest skin I found in HK. Didn't bring her upstairs because I didn't feel like in the mood of fucking. Bros who had brought her up might share how it is.
PowerMan02
10-22-19, 02:54
Anyone figure out how to avoid paying before sex yet? When I was there all the girls required payment up front except for 1. And they all shorted the session to 15 minutes except for one. How do you avoid this? Is it possible to turn away a girl once she is in your room? For example, she demands money upfront or there is a disagreement. Can you tell her no, will she start fighting and yelling at you, and refuse to leave unless you tip her $20? I imagine the girl getting wild and upset if you want to turn her away in the room.
How hard is it to find a main girl? I don't live in SD so can only come down once every few months. There's hot girls in HK yeah but they all suck except for a handful. They short your session to 15 minutes and demand payment upfront. You see all these perfect asses in the club and get sad inside when you realize all those beautiful bootys are going to give you a 15 minute session for $80 and demand the money upfront. It's so sad, brings a tear to my eye. Can anyone relate?I did back out after renting a short term room once. I had just gotten in and probably rushed the interview process. But when she had a 2 min conversation with the hotel room attendant who had on a training shirt, my alarm bells were going off. When she demanded upfront payment, I said I would show it to her but it would stay in my pocket until we finished. She said that wouldn't work, so I opened the door and headed out. I told the front desk that we hadn't used the room and they agreed to give my next one free that night. About an hour later, I'm back upstairs using it having a great time.
I was figuring it was better wasting the room fee than the $80. It was a nice surprise that Cascadas didn't screw me on the room.
Anyone figure out how to avoid paying before sex yet? When I was there all the girls required payment up front except for 1. And they all shorted the session to 15 minutes except for one. How do you avoid this? Is it possible to turn away a girl once she is in your room? For example, she demands money upfront or there is a disagreement. Can you tell her no, will she start fighting and yelling at you, and refuse to leave unless you tip her $20? I imagine the girl getting wild and upset if you want to turn her away in the room.
How hard is it to find a main girl? I don't live in SD so can only come down once every few months. There's hot girls in HK yeah but they all suck except for a handful. They short your session to 15 minutes and demand payment upfront. You see all these perfect asses in the club and get sad inside when you realize all those beautiful bootys are going to give you a 15 minute session for $80 and demand the money upfront. It's so sad, brings a tear to my eye. Can anyone relate?You, are looking for something that doesn't exist in most cases. It sounds like, you look at woman, decide she's hot, buy her a drink, and then hope upstairs is good. That's a lot of mistakes. #1-Hong Kong is an assembly line of sex. The woman is not grateful for your 80 bucks, because she would be getting the same 80 from someone else if you stayed home. You need to go to other clubs, with less customers, with possibility newer woman, maybe chubbier, but a lot more likely to treat you like a hot tinder date.
#2-I have been with maybe 20 bar girls only paid first maybe twice. Sometimes I pay, or leave money out without them asking, to be sure I have the money left. Plus once I was so drunk, I forgot I didn't pay first to a street girl. But the language barrier had me thinking she wanted an extra 20. Anyway, in general, if you want better experience, go early, by 3 pm, get a hotel at 5, now you have 8 hours to find a girl. Ideally not Saturday. Then, go to the clubs, smile at all the woman, and only get drinks for the ones that flirt for free. And only go upstairs with the ones who were so good during their drink, that you would feel guilty not going upstairs. And learn how to finish in 20 minutes. Even being careful, 75% don't want to go more than 20 minutes. A couple could go all night I had to stop a few from exhaustion.
ScatManDoo
10-22-19, 07:57
What time does HK start charging cover charge. ?I believe HK starts collecting either $7 or 126 pesos at the door beginning at 7 PM on Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights, however, I think I might have arrived around 6:45 last Friday night and still nailed for it at the door.
ClamSlammer
10-22-19, 11:44
The woman is not grateful for your 80 bucks, because she would be getting the same 80 from someone else if you stayed home.Not true. Except for a handful of exceptions on busy weekends, if a chica turns down your $80 offer, she will almost always go home with $80 less than she could have. Chicas almost never have another arriba offer pending while negotiating with another monger.
Found this solid 10 girl name Lizbeth...Didn't bring her upstairs...If you didn't take her up, then she wasn't a 10. There has never been a 10 in the Zona, not even a 9.
First of all, thanks for all the contributors in this forum! I started reading posts in this forum weeks before my trip to Tijuana, including the clubs sections, the general section, and the escort section. The information here is really helpful for me to plan my trip ahead and having a general sense of the situation here to avoid common pitfall. Big thanks to you all who have generously shared information and experience. It is bros like you making this community better and stronger. Please continue to share you experience and your thought. I am also particularly glad to see a few great posts from my fellow Mandarin speaking bros here.
The trip:
Not as convenient as bros who live in San Diego or LA, I flew from the north east region and I stay on north of border for the first day of my trip to meet with friends before we head to Tijuana the next day.
Here I make a stupid mistake, which essentially ruined my whole trips in certain degree. I stayed up late to hang out with friends on the first day. Having a three hours jet lag meaning I way passed my regular sleeping schedule, and this coupled with staying in a motel with strange / unfamiliar bed led to a bad night of sleep. Through out the 3 days trips, I stayed up late at west coastal hour and woke up at normal east coastal hour. This exhausted my energy before I got to meet with the girls.
We drove to the boarder Sunday morning and park north of border. 10 minutes later, we were on Tijuana. We had a hotel booked at Hotel Ticuan. Since it was noon, and it is my time in Tijuana, so we opt to take a walk from the boarder to the hotel so that I can feel the vibe of this border city. Luckily we didn't see anything close to what was shown in Sicario. Great movie by the way. I also had an escort book so that I can have an appetizer before I hit HK. I will make another post at the escort forum about my experience with escorts.
Bros and I started the club tour at around 7 PM Sunday night. Knowing we will eventually spending the night at HK, we toured Club Tropical, Chicago, and Adalita, before I went to HK. I got to say that the girl quality in HK is obviously higher than the surrounding club's, which is also what I was expected after reading the posts here.
There is not cover charge in Sunday night. The gate guard only do a quick search to make sure we didn't bring any weapon, which I don't mind at all and kinda appreciate this policy. None of the others club did this.
We found a seat by the bubble bath stage, and there were two girls in action. One of these is a tall thin girl with glasses, who had dildos and dollar bills in her. She is probably not attractive in HK's standard. I will talk again about this girl later. I am not a big fan of thin girl, so we did a quick walk through to feel the club and check out the talents, then I took a seat by the main dancing stage. We spent about an hour by the stage, consumed a few beer, and grab a few pair of boobs with my dollar bills. Like one of the fellow poster mention before, this is probably the most fun I had with an one dollar bill. I had visited multiple high mileage strip clubs in Las Vegas and Florida, and grabbing boobs requires a $20 lap dance. I much prefer quickly checking a girls asset with a dollar bill before I doing a thorough examination with my ficha time. We watched and tip the dancer while continue to look for a chica that I like. There was a girl wearing blue bras standing by the stairs that I found attractive. I made multiple eye contact with her thinking she might see the sign and come over, which didn't happen. After spending an hour by the stage, I started to realize the I probably need to move to a booth if I want more action and conversation with girls, so I did.
We sat on a booth near the dancing stage and continue to observe. A few minutes later, this girl with brace stop by and sat by me. I will rate her 5 for the look and 7 for the tits. She is enthusiastic enough so I let her stay with me. Although I had no plan to bring this girl up, I didn't might to buy ficha so that I can get the momentum started and to ease my nerve. She sat on my lap and gave me tits slaps on my face, which I kinda of enjoy. I alway consider myself as a big fan to big tits, so my eye action have only been focusing on girl with huge rack. However, I started doubting this preference. I will explain more on this later. After a minute or two, this girl start asking if I want to go up, I politely declined. She appear disappointed and walk away without saying bye, which I understand.
I eyed on this darker skin big tits skinny girl with shoulder length hair, which I later on leaned her name is Lucy. 7 in look and 8 in body. She went with another dude, so I move my sight away and try to find other girls. Half hour later, I still didn't find one, and I saw that Lucy was back on the floor. She sat by the dancing stage, and we made a few eye contact. She didn't come over. I thought she was not interested, but later I found out it was because she was getting ready to go onto the dancing stage. She did great dance with crazy spin. I also got to see her asset as she dance. I continued to make eye contact with her, and she came to my booth after the dance.
She can speak OK English, so I brought her a few ficha so that we can chat a little bit and exam her asset. Although I wanted to and made effort to establish some sort of connection with girls before going upstairs, I found the conversations are almost always superficial and meaningless. We talked about her tattoos, where she is from, what is my origin and ethnicity, and had a little game of guess each other's age. Having a normal conversation is also very difficult with the language barrier and the loud music. A few minutes into the conversation, I started running out of topic. So I ask her to sit on me so that I can feel some action. She moved her ass counter clockwise, and I check her asset. I was waiting for her to start the discussion of going upstairs because I though that might increase the likelihood of having a good session. A few more minutes past, and she still didn't ask, so I did. She quoted me 80, and I asked about services. She said everything but anal, which is fair. At that point, I actually didn't feel like having sex at all. It was probably because it was already 2 am east time, and I had multiple beer and cognac. I am not a big fan of drinking, but I drank because I consider that is part of the game. I also feel obligated to drink as I am in the club even though I know that I don't have to buy any drink. However, I sill want to go up stairs with her, mainly because I made all these effort getting to Tijuana and I feel that I am obligated to myself to have at least one session. I asked if we can go over 30 minutes. She said that is fine and she will tell the door knocker. I said I have a room in hotel Cascadas, and she responded that is even better.
We walked out, got her robe, where the guys handing the robe constantly asking tip tip tip, which I tip him two bucks. On the street for two seconds and we make a right turn to the hotel. She walk the stair very cautiously, which is probably because the heels make her walk very difficult. So I offer to help her balance with holding her hand. We walked by the reception desk and informed the reception her name and my room number.
Upon getting to the room, I asked her to show and I also want to show with her. It takes the shower water 5 minute to warm up, so I guess next time I will turn on the water immediately upon getting to the room. Back to the bed, the gave me a lame BBBJ for a few minutes, and I am ready for the action. At this point, I still don't feel like to have sex even though I am hard and I found this girl attractive. We spent the next few minute doing it in two three positions, but I still don't feel to pop, which is probably because I am already extremely exhausted. So I stopped the sex. I cuddled with her and played with her great tits. I attempted to force my horniness, but what I wanted to do is sleep. At the time, I think we already past 30 minutes. We continue cuddling, and I almost fell asleep. I was holding her like a little girl. Actually I did find her innocent by the way she talk and the way she responded to my requests. To fellow bro RonFromSichuan's point, I probably need to ask her to leave before I start establishing feeling with her. I also noticed that she might have already fell asleep. Another 30 minutes past by, I think I might have slept a little bit, and I quietly ask her if she want to go back or she want to stay here and sleep. She said that she has to go back, but want to sleep a little more, and ask if she can sleep 15 more minutes. I said that is fine, so I continue cuddle and play with her tits while she sleep. 10 minute later, I wake her up. As she got dress, I asked if she want 80 dollars or 1500 peso, and she opted for the dollars. We walked down, and I found her having difficulty walking the stair with those heels, so I help her out again by holding her hand. We hug in front of HK before she head back to the club, and her attitude was great.
Found this solid 10 girl name Lizbeth. Attractive girl even in college chick standard. Light skin, great soft tits, which I think they are natural. Speak okay English. She also got one of the smoothest skin I found in HK. Didn't bring her upstairs because I didn't feel like in the mood of fucking. Bros who had brought her up might share how it is.One thing interesting about this girl is that she is probably attractive enough that she is rarely on the floor. For the few hours that I observed in the club, she is almost always being occupied. She also doesn't dance on the stage at all as long as I know.
Hi everyone,
I've been reading up on this forum for a few months and decided to make a jump to come visit next Monday. Thanks for all the advice, I was wondering if anyone ever had issues trying to check in early at Cascadas?
I wanted to be up front and say that many mongers are not appreciating the HK girls, as professionals, as much as we should. While mongers might be there for leisure and have fun, HK girls are there to work to earn a living. They have regular working schedule just like any other working professional. They have rules to following just like any other industry. They takes risk for their return, which is no difference from other high risk professionals.
You might argue that HK girls are just selling their body. In some sense, it is actually very similar to sport players. People with the gift and talent of bring born taller and stronger than an average Joe making him a good fit to be a basketball player. With the talent, he still need a lot of hardworking and decipine to be a good player. Similarly, girl with gifted body are more likely to be a successful dance in a club. However, we shouldn't undermine the fact that the attractive girls also put in a lot of hardworking and discipline to maintain their shape to stay attractive. There are a lot of minor detail that many fellow bros might have overlooked. For example, those dame heels are probably killing the girl's feet all the time. From time to time, you might see girls on the floor trying to find something that they can lean to so that less weight is on their feet. In a hindsight, this might be the main reason why so many girls standing by the stairs where they can lean on the handheld. Same logic apply to girl who might sit on the second floor or sit on the back quietly. It is not because they are lazy, but because they simply need to sit down. You might notice that girls who are not with a customer are generally standing. It is probably because there are rules in the club prohibiting a girl from occupying a seat when they are not with customers (this should be self explained).
With a few girls that I talked to, they generally work 10 - 15 hours / day. On top of that, they also need to regularly spend time in the gym the stay in sharp, which arguably could be considered as part of the job.
HK is great. It is part of the real world, but it might not necessarily be the reality of many mongers's life. Having experience like this changes my view of life a little bit. I will explain what I meant by that. Though I am not a super attractive guy by any mean, I have not had any problem getting girl myself and have been with many girl friends since middle school. My wife is also attractive enough that many guys were trying to impressed her when we were together in college. However, to be honest, I never have had a girl that I would consider 9 or 10, and that always bug me a little bit. I guess deep down there it is because that I don't think I am attractive enough to attract a 9 or 10. As I get older, I started doubting even more about the probability of me attracting a 9 or 10. Also, as I grow and mature, I also start shifting the focus from becoming attractive to becoming successful, which is often being measured by money. I alway had that childish fantasy thought that I will eventually attract the 9's or 10's if I got rich (which might be true). Not to undermine the feeling of achievement when attracting attractive girl, but what do you actually want to do when you attract your dream girl? The dream girl the you want to have sex with and the person that you want to spend the rest of your life with are often different people. Probably I just have sex with the so call "dream girl" so that I can check it off my list. Now that I can just go down the HK, and that "dream girl" only cost $80, or maybe $100 if I like the girl enough and she insists. With this thought in mind, I think I will be less horny when I see 9's or 10's girls going forward, because I know I can fuck one easily. My HK experience also led me to start having a second thought on my preference on girls. I always though I am a huge fan of big tits. So I tried many big tits girls when I was in Tijuana. I experienced the biggest tits I have ever seen, and I also experienced the most beautiful tits I have ever seen. However, I didn't found my self being turned on as much as I expected.
Places like Hong Kong makes people feel the sense of fairness. Girls in Tijuana treat each customer equally (relative to how girls treat men in real world) regardless of whether you have only $100 or $1000 in your pocket. You can fuck them as long as you pay the $80. It is probably the closest environment where people can truly be color blind and classless. That sounds pretty good, right? However, you can also look at the flip side. You also will see it with your own eyes that one homeless looking dude who are much much worse then you in any aspects can achieve the same thing as you in the club, as long as he got $100. I probably shouldn't think it this way, but I can't say I am pleased when I saw this ugly fucker who tried to cut my line during the check in at Hotel Cascadas DFK hot girl in HK. While I still appreciate the vibe of the club, it just turned me off when I saw that scene.
KC Questor
10-23-19, 04:28
Hi everyone,
I've been reading up on this forum for a few months and decided to make a jump to come visit next Monday. Thanks for all the advice, I was wondering if anyone ever had issues trying to check in early at Cascadas?Yes, depending on the day it can be very difficult. They can be stubborn and make you wait until 3:00.
If you really need a place to crash and Cascadas won't let you in early, head over to Hotel Coahuila over Adelita Bar. A room on Monday is only $20 and they let you check in early -- I've done it at 11:00 am. You could use that room for a few hours nap, or even session with a girl from Adelita Bar while you wait for your Cascadas room.
If you don't want to do that, the front desk at Hong Kong will hold your bags for you (tip the guy a buck). I'd be nervous about leaving anything valuable in there though -- but that's just me. I have no evidence that anything has ever happened in that regard.
KC Questor
10-23-19, 04:28
I had multiple beer and cognac. I am not a big fan of drinking, but I drank because I consider that is part of the game. I also feel obligated to drink as I am in the club even though I know that I don't have to buy any drink. Dude, drink water. No one will judge you. They make more money from that than beer anyway. I drink water all night long. I even bring little bottles of Mio to add some flavor to it. You shouldn't feel pressured to drink when you don't want to.
We walked out, got her robe, where the guys handing the robe constantly asking tip tip tip, which I tip him two bucks.One dollar is fine for almost anything.
Another 30 minutes past by, I think I might have slept a little bit, and I quietly ask her if she want to go back or she want to stay here and sleep. She said that she has to go back, but want to sleep a little more, and ask if she can sleep 15 more minutes. I said that is fine, so I continue cuddle and play with her tits while she sleep. 10 minute later, I wake her up. As she got dress, I asked if she want 80 dollars or 1500 peso, and she opted for the dollars. We walked down, and I found her having difficulty walking the stair with those heels, so I help her out again by holding her hand. We hug in front of HK before she head back to the club, and her attitude was great.That actually sounds awesome. Even if you didn't pop, you made a nice connection and had a good time. She sounds sweet and you could probably gotten her number for another time. Maybe even after her shift for a longer session.
Not true. Except for a handful of exceptions on busy weekends, if a chica turns down your $80 offer, she will almost always go home with $80 less than she could have. Chicas almost never have another arriba offer pending while negotiating with another monger.Yeap. One of the hot ones turned me down at $80 and I saw her standing around all night. There's so many ladies just standing around.
Lakeside32
10-23-19, 12:01
Anyone figure out how to avoid paying before sex yet? When I was there all the girls required payment up front except for 1. And they all shorted the session to 15 minutes except for one. How do you avoid this? Is it possible to turn away a girl once she is in your room? For example, she demands money upfront or there is a disagreement. Can you tell her no, will she start fighting and yelling at you, and refuse to leave unless you tip her $20? I imagine the girl getting wild and upset if you want to turn her away in the room.
How hard is it to find a main girl? I don't live in SD so can only come down once every few months. There's hot girls in HK yeah but they all suck except for a handful. They short your session to 15 minutes and demand payment upfront. You see all these perfect asses in the club and get sad inside when you realize all those beautiful bootys are going to give you a 15 minute session for $80 and demand the money upfront. It's so sad, brings a tear to my eye. Can anyone relate?My dilemma happens to be that my very first 2 Arribas in HK ever, were damn good. I first starting going a year ago and I was blown away by HK. But unfortunately having beginners luck, just happened to set my expectations high as fuck, LOL. I see both ladies all the time and it's tempting to try them again but there are entirely too many ladies to revisit a past session. However; With hindsight and About 3 HK visits later I wouldn't advise paying a penny over $80 for any lady regardless of how beautiful or sexy she is. A Cascadas stay is a must for me and every single session since my very first 2 has been the extremely mechanical type with them all setting the timers on their phones, and adhering to it, while not adjusting the time to compensate for a quick shower, LOL. It's a fun place but be aware that the sex might not include the climax your lookin for, so don't be afraid to bargain the price down a bit.
RonFromSichuan
10-23-19, 17:03
I eyed on this darker skin big tits skinny girl with shoulder length hair, which I later on leaned her name is Lucy. 7 in look and 8 in body. She went with another dude, so I move my sight away and try to find other girls. Half hour later, I still didn't find one, and I saw that Lucy was back on the floor. She sat by the dancing stage, and we made a few eye contact. She didn't come over. I thought she was not interested, but later I found out it was because she was getting ready to go onto the dancing stage. She did great dance with crazy spin. I also got to see her asset as she dance. I continued to make eye contact with her, and she came to my booth after the dance.
She can speak OK English, so I brought her a few ficha so that we can chat a little bit and exam her asset. Although I wanted to and made effort to establish some sort of connection with girls before going upstairs, I found the conversations are almost always superficial and meaningless. We talked about her tattoos, where she is from, what is my origin and ethnicity, and had a little game of guess each other's age. Having a normal conversation is also very difficult with the language barrier and the loud music. A few minutes into the conversation, I started running out of topic.Nice report. It sounds like you had a pretty good time overall, definitely better than my first time. You probably would have been able to finish if you didn't see an escort beforehand or limited your drinks. At least you know for next time.
During my time at HK, I never had a girl pressure me to drink alcohol. Not even the meseros were pressuring me to order drinks for myself. They have water, soda, and juice as options if you do not feel like drinking alcohol. If you can handle energy drinks, they have Redbull as well. But I would be very careful about mixing caffeine and alcohol (see my first report for more information about my downfall when doing that).
As for Lucy, she seems cool. Hopefully you got her number so you can contact her next time you plan on going to HK to see if she will be working. As for the superficial conversations, that is kind of to be expected when you are talking through a translator. I ran into the same struggle you did, so that is why I mainly used the time to see how the girl was behaving and acting towards me rather than focusing on her responses through the translator. I envy the mongers who can speak fluent Spanish with the girls, as it makes it super easy to develop a rapport with them, which tends to lead to better service upstairs.
. It's a fun place but be aware that the sex might not include the climax your lookin for, so don't be afraid to bargain the price down a bit.I can echo that the climax might not be what you expected. Yes, I can have session with girl that I might not otherwise have. Some HK girls might be the most attractive girls I have fucked, but those are definitely not the best sex I had.
I might go to HK tonight. One thing I've started doing to combat these girls trying to hike their prices up is if a girl happens to ask for 100 and I counter with 80 and she says no, and then later on I run across her again and she says OK let's go for the 80 you wanted, I tell them no and that they shouldn't be asking for 100 in the first place and that if she would have asked for 80 she'the have 80 more in her purse than she has now. It sends a message that if they're asking for the ridiculous amount of 100, they will start to lose clients. Maybe it's just me but I'm still used to the 60 that used to be the standard. 80 is pushing it. 100 is unacceptable.
Guys are now saying they are getting the 120 quotes from HK girls. I know most of you probably throw the extra 20 for tip after since you love tipping for sex. What is the price point, at what price does it keep men from traveling to HK? The guys that get on a plane to San Diego just to bang these woman? One thing I notice on here, most guys don't go to other bars looking for cheaper sex. I think most guys, on here, Americans anyway, want HK girls, 60 turned into 70,80. 100.120. Still don't matter so far. Most men would rather a HK girl at 120 than a Adelitas girl at 70. That extra 15 pounds and the "HK" brand creates some loyalty to HK.
Nice report. It sounds like you had a pretty good time overall, definitely better than my first time. You probably would have been able to finish if you didn't see an escort beforehand or limited your drinks. At least you know for next time.
During my time at HK, I never had a girl pressure me to drink alcohol. Not even the meseros were pressuring me to order drinks for myself. They have water, soda, and juice as options if you do not feel like drinking alcohol. If you can handle energy drinks, they have Redbull as well. But I would be very careful about mixing caffeine and alcohol (see my first report for more information about my downfall when doing that).
As for Lucy, she seems cool. Hopefully you got her number so you can contact her next time you plan on going to HK to see if she will be working. As for the superficial conversations, that is kind of to be expected when you are talking through a translator. I ran into the same struggle you did, so that is why I mainly used the time to see how the girl was behaving and acting towards me rather than focusing on her responses through the translator. I envy the mongers who can speak fluent Spanish with the girls, as it makes it super easy to develop a rapport with them, which tends to lead to better service upstairs.Actually the girls were not pushing me for drink. It was the pushy meseros who I found super annoying. Other than pressuring buying drink, the meseros also push for buying food for girls. Lucy was pretty cool. I ordered food for her when she was at my seat, and she ate quiet a few of the food. She must be hungry, but I found that kinda cute. In contrast, I ordered food for Lizbeth on my second day, but she didn't touch the food. The fucking meseros later took the untouched food away and said put it in the fridge. On a hindsight, the girls probably don't care about mongers buying drinks and food, but I do believe they are obligated to order when mongers say yes. I heard that girls only get $1 when mongers buy a $10 drink.
I actually read your post, so I opted for juice during my second day in HK. Unfortunately, I had an escort visited my hotel room and I pop in morning, I didn't bring Lizbeth upstairs even thought I found her very attractive.
Captain Solo
10-24-19, 04:44
Bravos to the bros who find ways to hold down the continual price inflation by HK putas who think their coochies are priceless.
We owe it to ourselves and the other bros to not spoil the putas and try in every way to hold down prices to reasonable levels within the Tijuana's market.
Personally I am interested mainly in BJ,'s. This why I refuse to pay $80 or $100 for just a BJ. It would be nice to to find a hot HK girl that was willing to negotiate for that.
Guys are now saying they are getting the 120 quotes from HK girls. I know most of you probably throw the extra 20 for tip after since you love tipping for sex. What is the price point, at what price does it keep men from traveling to HK? The guys that get on a plane to San Diego just to bang these woman? One thing I notice on here, most guys don't go to other bars looking for cheaper sex. I think most guys, on here, Americans anyway, want HK girls, 60 turned into 70,80. 100.120. Still don't matter so far. Most men would rather a HK girl at 120 than a Adelitas girl at 70. That extra 15 pounds and the "HK" brand creates some loyalty to HK.
OrganicAlo
10-24-19, 05:05
Guys are now saying they are getting the 120 quotes from HK girls. I know most of you probably throw the extra 20 for tip after since you love tipping for sex. What is the price point, at what price does it keep men from traveling to HK? I'm only about a 3 hour drive, but if 90-120 was the norm, I probably wouldn't go as often.
Captain Solo
10-24-19, 05:10
Tuesday night drove down with a wingman, got in HK about 7:30. The club had lots of beautiful young girls, just like any weekend.
Sat at the bar, drinking HK's 2 free beers, watching the strip show. Noticed a young, very cute spinner, sitting at the stage, smiling sweetly with her pretty face. She has a large tat on her left forearm. Had never seen her in HK. She looked so cute that it would be very nice to take her in bed. After finishing 2 beers and relaxed a bit, I came over to make acquaintance. Her name was Hachia, 18, new to HK. I liked her constant sweet smile a lot, gave her my standard HK offer, which she declined. She insisted on $100 a I passed. Later found her sitting at the bar, doing no business all night. Too bad she missed out on a fantastic session with multiple orgasms in bed with me hehe.
Roamed the club looking for alternatives. HK has lots of hot girls, but unlike a quick decision with the hot, cute, innocent-looking Hachia, selection and decision are difficult with too many choices. Tall, lean, beautiful Jacqueline was dancing on the bar in her black G-string, baring her beautiful natural boobs with tiny pink tits, wearing her black-frame eye glasses on her pretty face.
I had sessions with her before and always liked her pretty face, jet-black straight hair, beautiful, sexy body with light smooth skin, nice, sweet, gentle personality. Overall she looks like the hottest Jewish princesses when I was in undergraduate school hehe. Pulled her down to talk business. Should have bought her a ficha but I knew her well enough to skip the interview. She was smiling and giggling pleasantly, pouting that I paid her so little last time, finally agreed to a locals' discount deal.
Got to the room in Cascada. She spoke goof English. I offered her a Tequila shot, but she declined, saying she got sick with Tequila once before. I offered her a beer in the fridge and she took a Tecate. The poor girl was thirsty and drank it down pretty quick. Cascada charges only $5 for beers, $3 for juices and $1 for water, so it's nice to offer drinks to the girls.
I was sucking on her tiny, pink nipples while fingering her clit and her coochie. She was enjoying the foreplay, showing pleasure on her face, sighing, her body relaxed, her coochie got wet and sloppy. She was turned on red hot, got on top, ramming her crotch on mine. Our bodies fit each other perfectly. I was equally turned on, got on top, jack hammering her vigorously for a long time, watching her pretty face contorted in pleasure. She was engaging and enjoying sex, breathing deeply, sighing, at times wailing. A few times she blurted out short phrases in Japanese in her ecstasy, Too bad she would not let me kiss, still sex with her was much hotter, better and more satisfying than most HK star fish. I popped a big load. We were cuddling in bed, talking.
She cleaned the lip stick off my face and went to the sink to clean up. She let me take a few pics without her face and a signature tattoo on her left shoulder blade, censoring the pics afterward. She spoke good English, commenting on the guys who go to HK often. Besides Cici, she's another HK girl with fascination about everything Japanese, taking a Japanese name Yako. She acts and feels in the sweetest ways just like Japanese girls.
She gave me her tel, making promises for future dinners, dates and vacation in Cancun. Yako is one of the sweetest, sexiest and classiest girls in HK to get to know.
Member #4722
10-24-19, 09:00
Guys are now saying they are getting the 120 quotes from HK girls. I know most of you probably throw the extra 20 for tip after since you love tipping for sex. What is the price point, at what price does it keep men from traveling to HK? The guys that get on a plane to San Diego just to bang these woman? One thing I notice on here, most guys don't go to other bars looking for cheaper sex. I think most guys, on here, Americans anyway, want HK girls, 60 turned into 70,80. 100.120. Still don't matter so far. Most men would rather a HK girl at 120 than a Adelitas girl at 70. That extra 15 pounds and the "HK" brand creates some loyalty to HK.Many mongers are so obsessed with looks. I have found hot girls with great service at all the other bars in La Zona.
Dcrist0527
10-24-19, 14:37
Many mongers are so obsessed with looks. I have found hot girls with great service at all the other bars in La Zona.I couldn't agree more. I have two favorites at HK. I've developed friendships with them over time and those sessions are phenomenal. But ignoring those two, I've had far better service at Adelitas. I completely understand the desire to bang the 10. But I'm willing to be happy with an 8 or even a 7 when the service is much better. There are plenty of 7's or even 8's at Adelitas.
My last Adelitas girl was a bigger girl. Pretty but a bit larger than I would normally go for. The session was excellent. We spent almost 90 minutes arriba. I had to pay for the room 3 times but she only wanted 70. I tipped her another 20. But it was total GFE. Afterwards, she said next time, you take my ass. I laughed, because while I'm not opposed to it, that's just not my thing. So on my next trip there, a month later, she found me and said my ass is still waiting for you. I didn't take her up on the offer as I had my eyes on the most beautiful girl (from Veracruz) I'd ever seen in Adelitas. But there is no doubt in my mind that it would have been a great session.
I've become a fan of Adelitas. My experiences have surpassed Chicago in my book. No doubt you have to lower your standards and come off the 10's. And the volume at HK is certainty better. But I'd recommend giving Adelitas a try. I've never paid more than 70 there, often times less.
Captain Solo
10-24-19, 18:14
To OrganicAlo.
I hear you about HK girls who wanted high prices. But there are plenty of hot girls in HK who are far more reasonable.
New girls tend to set their price expectations too high, not booking business. They also like to bullshit the noobs and rip them off with bad sessions, anything they think they can get away with. Locals and old timers are known to the girls and get low local rates. You just have to talk nice to the girls and will find many hot girls offering low local discounts.
Shame to guys who show off their fake wealth, spoiling the girls, trying to impress them with their little money. The little girls would just laugh at them behind their backs and spread the words so their friends can join in the sharks' feast.
Kudos to the bros who care about negative price impacts to local market and try ti find ways to hold down coochies inflation. Girls would think these guys are smarter and treat them with consideration and respect.
I'm only about a 3 hour drive, but if 90-120 was the norm, I probably wouldn't go as often.
I might go to HK tonight. One thing I've started doing to combat these girls trying to hike their prices up is if a girl happens to ask for 100 and I counter with 80 and she says no, and then later on I run across her again and she says OK let's go for the 80 you wanted, I tell them no and that they shouldn't be asking for 100 in the first place and that if she would have asked for 80 she'the have 80 more in her purse than she has now. It sends a message that if they're asking for the ridiculous amount of 100, they will start to lose clients. Maybe it's just me but I'm still used to the 60 that used to be the standard. 80 is pushing it. 100 is unacceptable.Yeah I'm with you. I started going to Tijuana 5 years ago probably. Was in San Diego anyway. Was going just to hang, not pay for sex. I had just broken up with a European woman who didn't cost me anything for sex, who was beautiful. Way out of my league. So no way was I going to pay 60 for less attractive woman. By year 2, I started to pay 60 as I had less patience for dating, driving woman around, having to date them a month before sex, I was like F it, I'm going to Tijuana. I was OK with paying 60, because I saved 60 on hotel by not sleeping in San Diego hotel. But 70, I did twice and was pissed at myself, since then it's only 60 or street girls for 20. No way I'm going to pay more than 60. I'll still go for free beers, food, etc. I also bring quarters to tip 50 cents a beer unless the beers free then I'll tip one dollar. Reason is, one dollar a beer is not normal in rest of Mexico.
Those girls who ask for $100 are gen new.
Once I talked a chick a 2nd time (1 week later), she lowered it to 1500 peso (including tips), but I would not budge from 1200 + tips.
They would know it in just 3-4 weeks.
Guys are now saying they are getting the 120 quotes from HK girls. I know most of you probably throw the extra 20 for tip after since you love tipping for sex. What is the price point, at what price does it keep men from traveling to HK? The guys that get on a plane to San Diego just to bang these woman? One thing I notice on here, most guys don't go to other bars looking for cheaper sex. I think most guys, on here, Americans anyway, want HK girls, 60 turned into 70,80. 100.120. Still don't matter so far. Most men would rather a HK girl at 120 than a Adelitas girl at 70. That extra 15 pounds and the "HK" brand creates some loyalty to HK.
DramaFree11
10-25-19, 02:36
I couldn't agree more. I have two favorites at HK. I've developed friendships with them over time and those sessions are phenomenal. But ignoring those two, I've had far better service at Adelitas. I completely understand the desire to bang the 10. But I'm willing to be happy with an 8 or even a 7 when the service is much better. There are plenty of 7's or even 8's at Adelitas.
My last Adelitas girl was a bigger girl. Pretty but a bit larger than I would normally go for. The session was excellent. We spent almost 90 minutes arriba. I had to pay for the room 3 times but she only wanted 70. I tipped her another 20. But it was total GFE. Afterwards, she said next time, you take my ass. I laughed, because while I'm not opposed to it, that's just not my thing. So on my next trip there, a month later, she found me and said my ass is still waiting for you. I didn't take her up on the offer as I had my eyes on the most beautiful girl (from Veracruz) I'd ever seen in Adelitas. But there is no doubt in my mind that it would have been a great session.
I've become a fan of Adelitas. My experiences have surpassed Chicago in my book. No doubt you have to lower your standards and come off the 10's. And the volume at HK is certainty better. But I'd recommend giving Adelitas a try. I've never paid more than 70 there, often times less.I am sorry service is just not that great at Adelitas, yes cheaper, but only slightly better, if that. If you go to Azul, service is pretty good for that quality of restaurant and far better the. Adelitas. Zero pressure or up selling. If you can get girls to go to Azul, you just can not beat the experience and value. Again just do not deal with the waiters at HK, then problem solved.
The subject of girls being attractive or fat has been talked about. 70-80% of girls I would consider fat, most girls are not attractive at all at Adelitas. If that is your thing then knock yourself out. I am not into street girls, but for the most part the girls are way more attractive then the girls at Adelitas, the place is just a huge disappointment now and bigger waste of time.
90-120 is not the norm. At least on Sunday afternoons. 80 is the norm. Course if your adding in the room then yea. $100 is the norm.
I never barter with them but then do give them a tip. I should do a little barter so maybe ask for $70.
When it's so packed like Friday, Saturday Sunday nights. Then maybe the most beautiful do ask for more in the 90-120 range?
To OrganicAlo.
I hear you about HK girls who wanted high prices. But there are plenty of hot girls in HK who are far more reasonable.
New girls tend to set their price expectations too high, not booking business. They also like to bullshit the noobs and rip them off with bad sessions, anything they think they can get away with. Locals and old timers are known to the girls and get low local rates. You just have to talk nice to the girls and will find many hot girls offering low local discounts.
Shame to guys who show off their fake wealth, spoiling the girls, trying to impress them with their little money. The little girls would just laugh at them behind their backs and spread the words so their friends can join in the sharks' feast.
Kudos to the bros who care about negative price impacts to local market and try ti find ways to hold down coochies inflation. Girls would think these guys are smarter and treat them with consideration and respect.
I'm only about a 3 hour drive, but if 90-120 was the norm, I probably wouldn't go as often.
Banged this hot goth looking chick named Pink at HK yesterday. She has pink hair, hence the name. At first I thought it was this Kitty girl some of you have been talking about since she also has pink hair but this was a different girl. I've always had a thing for goth chicks and besides being pretty she had what I consider to be the perfect body. Thin, nice heart shaped butt, nice big tits although they were fake, I don't mind fake tits. Blue eyes, contacts but since she is very fair skinned it was a good look for her. I was mesmerized the second I looked at her and made strong eye contact and she came right over to me. She told me she usually charges 100 but for me she would do 80. I didn't hesitate and we went upstairs. Unfortunately she did not allow pictures and said she does not give out her number either. I should have asked for her Instagram or Snapchat. She also does not offer GFE. Maybe she would have been more open to stuff if I bought her drinks but I didn't. On the positive side she is not a clock watcher at all and will let you bang her in any position you can imagine and seems to be genuinely into it. Very nice girl overall. I didn't regret spending 80 on her one bit. If any of you guys have ever wanted to bang a goth chick this is the girl for you. I mentioned that I hadn't seen her on my previous trips because she is obviously a girl you don't forget noticing. She said she only works enough to make enough money to live comfortably in Guadalajara and then goes back home and comes back to Tijuana to make more money when funds start to get low. She will be working everyday this week and most of next week. If any of you take her upstairs please try to get a picture or her social media info.
DramaFree11
10-25-19, 04:18
Guys are now saying they are getting the 120 quotes from HK girls. I know most of you probably throw the extra 20 for tip after since you love tipping for sex. What is the price point, at what price does it keep men from traveling to HK? The guys that get on a plane to San Diego just to bang these woman? One thing I notice on here, most guys don't go to other bars looking for cheaper sex. I think most guys, on here, Americans anyway, want HK girls, 60 turned into 70,80. 100.120. Still don't matter so far. Most men would rather a HK girl at 120 than a Adelitas girl at 70. That extra 15 pounds and the "HK" brand creates some loyalty to HK.My advice to you guys that are complaining about paying $100, for a hot girl, get a part time job. $20 is nothing, hell I had to pay $30 to pay for parking at a crappy hotel in San Antonio. Those same girl you would be paying double or triple prices in the states or parts of Europe. You are losing out on quality girls over a little money. Go get girl at another club or on the street.
Last weekend I hand an amazing Threesome, both girls were above 7. 5. We hung out in Azul for hour and in the room for 45 minutes to hour. If I was cheap I would lost out on this incredible experience. Sorry, just makes zero senses to me, to be cheap.
KC Questor
10-25-19, 04:30
If I really want to be with a girl who is asking $100 or even $120 and not budging on the price, I would counter with an hour and two pops for that rate.
OrganicAlo
10-25-19, 06:52
To OrganicAlo.
I hear you about HK girls who wanted high prices. But there are plenty of hot girls in HK who are far more reasonable.
New girls tend to set their price expectations too high, not booking business. They also like to bullshit the noobs and rip them off with bad sessions, anything they think they can get away with. Locals and old timers are known to the girls and get low local rates. You just have to talk nice to the girls and will find many hot girls offering low local discounts.
Shame to guys who show off their fake wealth, spoiling the girls, trying to impress them with their little money. The little girls would just laugh at them behind their backs and spread the words so their friends can join in the sharks' feast.
Kudos to the bros who care about negative price impacts to local market and try ti find ways to hold down coochies inflation. Girls would think these guys are smarter and treat them with consideration and respect.
I'm only about a 3 hour drive, but if 90-120 was the norm, I probably wouldn't go as often.I wasn't the one upset about the prices, I have no problem getting girls for the 70-80 mark in HK, which I think is a fair price for both parties, considering HK is geared towards gringos and such.
Was just adding to the discussion that at that price point is probably when I would stop going as often.
I know there are other bars where it's even cheaper, however, I like the party atmosphere of HK.
Dcrist0527
10-25-19, 13:37
I am sorry service is just not that great at Adelitas, yes cheaper, but only slightly better, if that. If you go to Azul, service is pretty good for that quality of restaurant and far better the. Adelitas. Zero pressure or up selling. If you can get girls to go to Azul, you just can not beat the experience and value. Again just do not deal with the waiters at HK, then problem solved.
The subject of girls being attractive or fat has been talked about. 70-80% of girls I would consider fat, most girls are not attractive at all at Adelitas. If that is your thing then knock yourself out. I am not into street girls, but for the most part the girls are way more attractive then the girls at Adelitas, the place is just a huge disappointment now and bigger waste of time.The one constant in this hobby: YMMV. So in my experience, yes, I have found great service at Adelitas. I would agree with your comment that Adelitas has bigger women but there are usually a few good options there. As for street girls vs Adelitas, if we are talking service, in my experience, Adelitas wins that one hands down.
We are all different, have different criteria and expectations. But I think that the 20-30% of girls is worth checking out. Just my opinion.
OrganicAlo
10-25-19, 16:13
Banged this hot goth looking chick named Pink at HK yesterday. She has pink hair, hence the name. At first I thought it was this Kitty girl some of you have been talking about since she also has pink hair but this was a different girl. I've always had a thing for goth chicks and besides being pretty she had what I consider to be the perfect body. Thin, nice heart shaped butt, nice big tits although they were fake, I don't mind fake tits. Blue eyes, contacts but since she is very fair skinned it was a good look for her. I was mesmerized the second I looked at her and made strong eye contact and she came right over to me. She told me she usually charges 100 but for me she would do 80. I didn't hesitate and we went upstairs. Unfortunately she did not allow pictures and said she does not give out her number either. I should have asked for her Instagram or Snapchat. She also does not offer GFE. Maybe she would have been more open to stuff if I bought her drinks but I didn't. On the positive side she is not a clock watcher at all and will let you bang her in any position you can imagine and seems to be genuinely into it. Very nice girl overall. I didn't regret spending 80 on her one bit. If any of you guys have ever wanted to bang a goth chick this is the girl for you. I mentioned that I hadn't seen her on my previous trips because she is obviously a girl you don't forget noticing. She said she only works enough to make enough money to live comfortably in Guadalajara and then goes back home and comes back to Tijuana to make more money when funds start to get low. She will be working everyday this week and most of next week. If any of you take her upstairs please try to get a picture or her social media info.She has the snakebite lip piercings haha! This was my buddies first girl in Tijuana. I took him down for his first time this last Tuesday, waiter brought her over to me and I told him, mi amigo. He took her up for 80, he had a great time with her. She told us she has both a boyfriend and girlfriend back in Guadalajara.
That chica has one big set of tiddies.
My advice to you guys that are complaining about paying $100, for a hot girl, get a part time job. $20 is nothing, hell I had to pay $30 to pay for parking at a crappy hotel in San Antonio. Those same girl you would be paying double or triple prices in the states or parts of Europe. You are losing out on quality girls over a little money. Go get girl at another club or on the street.
Last weekend I hand an amazing Threesome, both girls were above 7. 5. We hung out in Azul for hour and in the room for 45 minutes to hour. If I was cheap I would lost out on this incredible experience. Sorry, just makes zero senses to me, to be cheap.A lot of the guys in HK are from Mexico. So telling them 120 is nothing, and to go get another job is wrong. Some guys like to go once a week, sure if you go three times a year drop 1000 or 1200 each visit maybe it doesn't matter as much. A lot guys got other Bill's and kids to pay for. And they are watching the prices go up fast. Probably due to increased foot traffic in Hong Kong, likely from backpage and craigslist being shutdown. First HK started charging cover on weekends, now its half the week, VIP decreased to 3 months, less good free coupons, too many guys go to HK, the prices were bound to go up. It would help if other Mexican border towns had their own Hong Kong's. 3 years girls will be demanding 180 to go upstairs. And guys will pay it. Let's be honest. If HK girls asked for 160 minimum, how much business would they lose? Not much.
DramaFree11
10-25-19, 23:46
If I really want to be with a girl who is asking $100 or even $120 and not budging on the price, I would counter with an hour and two pops for that rate.Good Advice, I have never had a girl ask for $120.
DramaFree11
10-26-19, 00:18
The one constant in this hobby: YMMV. So in my experience, yes, I have found great service at Adelitas. I would agree with your comment that Adelitas has bigger women but there are usually a few good options there. As for street girls vs Adelitas, if we are talking service, in my experience, Adelitas wins that one hands down.
We are all different, have different criteria and expectations. But I think that the 20-30% of girls is worth checking out. Just my opinion.Good points, I would say 10-20%, are decent depending on the night. Now that I rent room at HK, no need to change. Love the Hotel at HK,(Not for long stays), can not say the same about Adelitas.
TerOnlyOnce
10-26-19, 01:55
Since we're talking about prices and inflation, allow me to chime in. First I want to start by saying I'm a more practical and intellectual type of monger. My focus is getting the absolute most bang for my buck, no questions asked. I'm not the typical gringo that goes in and blows $200 on a Mexican girl in Tijuana and calls that a win. That's really fucking stupid in my opinion. You want to have a good time and fuck really beautiful women in Tijuana? Great, there's an effective way to do it.
The first thing you should do is NOT pay more than $80 ever. Seriously. Prices have increased. $80 did not use to be the standard. I have friends that have hit up Tijuana regularly years ago. You know what the standard was? $60 for a session. Now all of a sudden, $60 has become $80. You see where this is going? It's really saddening for me to say this and it pains me to say this but $80 will most likely become $100 at one point. Yes, eventually the standard will become $100 per session. That's just how inflation works. And we're seeing it happen right now. The girls are testing the waters by trying to push up the standard price and making it stick. Props to the guys trying to hold prices down for as long as they can. My hope is that eventually the price per session hits a ceiling and a majority of people that go to HK realize that sex here is becoming so god damn expensive that it's not even worth coming anymore. At that point, the price should stabilize back down. We are probably quite some time from that happening though.
About Adelitas. I actually like the place. People say most of the girls there are fat. Well, I actually LIKE that LOL. I don't like fat as in obese, but I definitely do like thick and more meat. Such as thicker thighs, bubble butts, and big tits. So I personally like Adelitas. And it's cheaper! You can get girls at $60 and $70 quite frequently. I've only been there during popular weekend nights so I can't say what the turn out is during other times.
I must admit that my favorite out of all in Tijuana is street girls. I fucking love street girls. Why? Because they're the cheapest! And you can find some really hot girls on the street. It's like finding that piece of gold in a sea of shit. It takes a litttttle bit more time but once you find it, you latch onto it and fuck the shit out of that girl. Last time I was there I found a girl standing outside hotel cascadas with the nicest and fattest ass with thick thighs. Easily looks like a HK girl but she was on the street. Price was $20 for 20 minutes. Fucked her for over an hour. Just kept pounding into her fat ass as I squeezed and grip each humongous butt cheek. Was a fucking epic time and super affordable.
My advice for those that want to improve their HK experience and what I would do:
- first thing is move to San Diego ASAP. If you're at all serious about getting better at HK and truly getting consistent and quality sex with some of these hot chicks, you got to be able to get to the clubs regularly. The best way is to live in San Diego. That way you can hit up the clubs 3 times a week and become a regular. You'll get better at screening, spotting bullshitting, not wasting time and money, and interviewing hot girls better to ensure your sessions are always decent.
- for all new girls I would tell her you're going to time the session. Legit for a new chick you want to have a timer put out. Otherwise you will get shorted to a 20 minute session, trust me, it always happens. Tell the girl you will be timing the session and don't be ashamed. Then when you enter your room, start that timer. This ensures that your sessions with new girls aren't utter session and at least you get the full 30 minute time.
- tell the girl you will pay half upfront, and half after. You need to negotiate it in the club. If she insists on being paid in full upfront, just next her. Ideally you want to pay in full after, but most girls probably won't accept that. If you say half upfront, it's a fair deal. Hopefully this will sway in some reasonable girls to still want to bang you. Do NOT pay in full upfront. Once you give her all the money upfront, then you've lost. She will basically shit all over your session and there's nothing you can do about it. If you pay half upfront, then she still has to work for the other half. It's a psychological thing, she will still put in solid effort because she wants to get the other half.
These are just a few tips. In general though I recommend interviewing hard over 1 drink and screening hard even before that initial drink. You really need to know Spanish for this. In fact, I would say step number 1 is to practice the fuck out of your Spanish as much as you can.
Good luck folks.
My advice to you guys that are complaining about paying $100, for a hot girl, get a part time job. $20 is nothing, hell I had to pay $30 to pay for parking at a crappy hotel in San Antonio. Those same girl you would be paying double or triple prices in the states or parts of Europe. You are losing out on quality girls over a little money. Go get girl at another club or on the street.
Last weekend I hand an amazing Threesome, both girls were above 7. 5. We hung out in Azul for hour and in the room for 45 minutes to hour. If I was cheap I would lost out on this incredible experience. Sorry, just makes zero senses to me, to be cheap.Bro,
It's not that we can't afford the 100 or even 120 it's just that for a girl in a third world country $80 a session is still a lot of money for them to be earning. I know people in Tijuana that work 50-60 hour regular jobs and barely make $100 for the entire week. These girls are getting too greedy asking 100+ a session. Like I said before, to us that remember the 50-60 standard rates in HK, the fact that they have managed to double their asking rates is ridiculous. If we start accepting 100 as the norm trust me next thing you know they're going to want 150. And of course there's some poor saps who will pay it not knowing they are doing a disservice to their fellow mongers. It can get to the point where we might as well just bang American chicks without the hassle.
Of having to travel to Mexico.
OrganicAlo: yes that's the one! How could I forget the lip rings? She's so hot man. She has the perfect body. I can only imagine what her girlfriend looks like.
First time visitor next week. What is the best time of day to visit have 4-5 hours to play around with next wed or Tuesday depending on how things go while in San Diego.
ChinaMan360
10-26-19, 09:54
I might go to HK tonight. One thing I've started doing to combat these girls trying to hike their prices up is if a girl happens to ask for 100 and I counter with 80 and she says no, and then later on I run across her again and she says OK let's go for the 80 you wanted, I tell them no and that they shouldn't be asking for 100 in the first place and that if she would have asked for 80 she'the have 80 more in her purse than she has now. It sends a message that if they're asking for the ridiculous amount of 100, they will start to lose clients. Maybe it's just me but I'm still used to the 60 that used to be the standard. 80 is pushing it. 100 is unacceptable.Good man. The problem with the prices is that the girls quote way higher for American guys. That's just plain predatory to jack up the price if your not Mexican. You just have to complain about the price or else the chicas will keep on upping the price. Quoting 120 is crazy now. In a few months there was a 20% average increase in prices being initially quoted. That's crazy.
First time visitor next week. What is the best time of day to visit have 4-5 hours to play around with next wed or Tuesday depending on how things go while in San Diego.If you're going to be there 4 hours I suggest going at about 4 to 5 pm. That way you'll get a good sampling of 2 sets of girls. The ones finishing up their day shifts and the ones beginning their night shifts.
SomeGuy760
10-26-19, 22:06
First time visitor next week. What is the best time of day to visit have 4-5 hours to play around with next wed or Tuesday depending on how things go while in San Diego.Depends what you mean by best time. On Tues and Wed, it's pretty quiet around 12 pm to 3 pm. I prefer that because there's more places to sit and there's less competition with other dudes.
If you're looking for a party, then go 5 pm or later.
I just like it there in the afternoon about 3 to 7 pm. You can see everything a little better. It's not so crazy and while I don't have statistics to back it up, it think it's safer during the day. Yet the club is still getting a little busier with out getting packed.
First time visitor next week. What is the best time of day to visit have 4-5 hours to play around with next wed or Tuesday depending on how things go while in San Diego.
Personally my max at HK is $70 (I do not tip) since there is no such thing as a HK chica I must have and I may regret losing. Adelitas, Chicago, Tropicals, Chavelas, street and at least 4 agencies have hundreds of chicas I want to have sex with and will take $60-70 or less. Nowadays I do not hesitate to tell a HK girl I only have fun at HK, when I want to get serious and fuck, I go to Adelitas and elsewhere.
The only relevant reason for me is the supply of chicas I want to have sex with in the Zona Norte is almost unlimited, and is not limited to HK. Gentlemen, there is a world out there beyond HK.
Tididyekim
10-26-19, 22:54
Hey guys,
So I'm trying to plan a trip with a large group of friends (9 to 11 people) to come to Tijuana / Rosito for a weekend and I was wondering if you guys had any tips for us to really get the most out of it.
The idea so far is to stay in Rosarito, but we plan on at least spending one day / night in Tijuana to eat and fuck. Hong Kong will be on the itinerary for Friday or Saturday and we'll most likely be getting bottle service since we'll all want to sit together. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions to offer for a party our size? I've been to H. K. A few times already, but never with this many people. That and I'm wondering if there are anything else worth exploring such as renting a few escorts etc. Through the weekend. Any suggestions would be great.
I do have few questions of my own that maybe some of you could answer.
1. What's the best time to arrive to H. K. On a Friday or Saturday? I'm wondering when the night shift girls start working so our group can be there around the same time. Some of the people in my group have never been to H. K. So I want them to get the best experience while we are there.
2. From my understanding, H. K. Has "secure" parking, but is it even worth using? I have no issues driving to Rosarito, but I'm a little apprehensive about leaving our cars at the club since they might be broken into or the valet attendants might scratch the cars.
3. If we were to stay one night at Hotel Cascadas, is it safe to leave our valuables in our hotel room? I may have to work remote for a period of time so I might need to bring a laptop with me.
Thanks in advance for any of the advice you guys have to offer. I've always had a great time in Tijuana so I'm really excited to bring the new generation into the fold. I'll be sure to teach them how to navigate through the meseros and the high prices of some of these chica's might be asking from my group before the visit. Haha.
If you are an American who speaks Spanish, you can get the Mexican price quote. Rule #1 - when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In Mexico, do as the Mexican men do. Speak Spanish, wear clothing like upper class Mexican men and try to fit in. If you want to know what to wear in Tijuana, look at photos of Presidente Amlo and other Mexican politicians. Long sleeved shirts rolled up, pants and clean shoes or boots with a good haircut and shave. Forget tattoos of Darth Vader, spiderman or other Comicon icons, Mohawk haircuts, shorts and flip flops because that is not what local upper class Mexicans wear. If you want to get the same treatment Amlo would get, then look and talk like Amlo to the Chicas. Look like the Most Interesting Man in the World. . . Stay thirsty my friends!
Good man. The problem with the prices is that the girls quote way higher for American guys. That's just plain predatory to jack up the price if your not Mexican. You just have to complain about the price or else the chicas will keep on upping the price. Quoting 120 is crazy now. In a few months there was a 20% average increase in prices being initially quoted. That's crazy.
KC Questor
10-26-19, 23:18
I have never had a girl ask for $120.Me either, but I've seen reports of it over the past month. Shocked the hell out of me, but multiple reports from different mongers on different boards. No way am I paying that for 30 minutes.
ClamSlammer
10-26-19, 23:53
There's been some discussion about rising prices and what not. So here's my take:
When it comes to negotiation between monger and puta, 100% of the leverage belongs to the monger. But most mongers do not realize this fact. The puta lacks even the slightest iota of leverage. Why? There's 2 reasons.
1. The monger's kids are going to eat regardless of whether a deal is made with the puta. Can the same be said about the puta's kids?
2. In the event that negotiations between the monger and puta break down, the monger literally has 500+ immediate other options within a city block that will happily accept a reasonable offer. The puta will almost never have another monger waiting to make an offer that's acceptable to her. Instead of making a reasonable amount of let's say $80, she's spend the next half hour standing there making nothing or at most $3. 50 for a couple of fichas.
So next time a puta refuses to budge from $100, let her walk. Let her starve, get evicted, her kids starve, not have school supplies, her parents eat nothing but frijoles and tortillas. Let the puta go work as a cashier for $14/ day. If mongers had any sense the standard price would be $50 or less, which would be equal to making the same amount of money working 3-4 days in a factory.
LuvMexicanas
10-27-19, 05:46
There's been some discussion about rising prices and what not. So here's my take:
When it comes to negotiation between monger and puta, 100% of the leverage belongs to the monger. But most mongers do not realize this fact. The puta lacks even the slightest iota of leverage. Why? There's 2 reasons.
1. The monger's kids are going to eat regardless of whether a deal is made with the puta. Can the same be said about the puta's kids?
2. In the event that negotiations between the monger and puta break down, the monger literally has 500+ immediate other options within a city block that will happily accept a reasonable offer. The puta will almost never have another monger waiting to make an offer that's acceptable to her. Instead of making a reasonable amount of let's say $80, she's spend the next half hour standing there making nothing or at most $3. 50 for a couple of fichas.
So next time a puta refuses to budge from $100, let her walk. Let her starve, get evicted, her kids starve, not have school supplies, her parents eat nothing but frijoles and tortillas. Let the puta go work as a cashier for $14/ day. If mongers had any sense the standard price would be $50 or less, which would be equal to making the same amount of money working 3-4 days in a factory.You're 100% correct but as you know, there are too many mongers out there that are either weak or make poor decision after poor decision. Thus, your logic while sound only works on paper but not in reality which is unfortunate for all of us.
Tididyekim
10-27-19, 09:01
So next time a puta refuses to budge from $100, let her walk. Let her starve, get evicted, her kids starve, not have school supplies, her parents eat nothing but frijoles and tortillas. Let the puta go work as a cashier for $14/ day. If mongers had any sense the standard price would be $50 or less, which would be equal to making the same amount of money working 3-4 days in a factory.Man,
Not going to sugar coat it, this sounds like straight bitterness. I agree that you should walk away from a girl that won't budge from $100, there's just no reason to be bitter about it. These girls are basically sales people trying to make as much money as they can. If negotiations don't work between the two of you, just move onto the next one. Simple.
I don't think woman sweat losing any man's money. I'm in Cascadas, seeing these woman go up the elevators constantly. Even the ones I wouldn't of dated for free three years ago. One thing, is guys need to stop giving dollars to girls walking around asking for it. Why should see have sex for 70 if she can make 35 hour walking around asking for "one dollar". And, if you are going to give a dollar, make her work for it for a full minute. I went to Baltimore strip club, these woman need more money to live than Hong kongs girls. They need four times the money. But they didn't ask for money. They walk up to me and dance for three to six minutes, let me smack their ass, and I give a dollar or two. Then they walk away and the next one comes. But these guys in Hong Kong, just want to give money away for free. And venture out to the other clubs. All the ones next to Hong Kong, have chicks to bang. Adwlitas, Chavelas, there's another one next to those with big stage, I walked in, must been ten attractive 25 year old woman working and two dollar beers. Pay with pesos for beer for cheap price.
KC Questor
10-27-19, 17:45
Too many guys are coming from cities where fat, old hookers charge $250-300 (and a hotel room is $150). They get to Tijuana and a young hottie will fuck you for "only" $100 and a $20 room, so they jump at it. If they are just visiting for the night and it is their one shot, you can't really blame them.
Dcrist0527
10-27-19, 18:04
Too many guys are coming from cities where fat, old hookers charge $250-300 (and a hotel room is $150). They get to Tijuana and a young hottie will fuck you for "only" $100 and a $20 room, so they jump at it. If they are just visiting for the night and it is their one shot, you can't really blame them.We can all talk about this until we're blue in the face. But it's simple economics. Supply and demand. KC, you are right about those that fly in and make it an event. I have been one of those. That said, I have still never paid $100. But if there are guys that do, then that will become the standard.
HK has a market on the hottest chicas available. But as many others have said, there are 100's of other and in some ways better options within a city block or a message to an agency. So supply is on our side. What does skew the price a bit is HK has the most dense population of pure beauty.
Bottom line, if you are price sensitive, you are not lacking for options. In that way, mongers do own the market because they control the demand.
DramaFree11
10-27-19, 20:10
Too many guys are coming from cities where fat, old hookers charge $250-300 (and a hotel room is $150). They get to Tijuana and a young hottie will fuck you for "only" $100 and a $20 room, so they jump at it. If they are just visiting for the night and it is their one shot, you can't really blame them.This is such a non issue. You guys do not need to pay $125. There ISO many girls at HK that have zero sessions. There is maybe 5% that could get $125. Again you guys are spoiled.
ClamSlammer
10-27-19, 22:47
Man,
Not going to sugar coat it, this sounds like straight bitterness. I agree that you should walk away from a girl that won't budge from $100, there's just no reason to be bitter about it. These girls are basically sales people trying to make as much money as they can. If negotiations don't work between the two of you, just move onto the next one. Simple.You are incorrect in your assessment. I don't go to the zona to monger. Therefore, I do not negotiate with the chicas. Thus, there is not bitterness whatsoever.
Yes these girls are basically salespeople that are trying to make as much money as they can. They have every right to. But there are limits. Pretty much every business is trying to make as much money as they can. But they adhere to realistic parameters. What would happen if McDonalds jacked up the price of a Big Mac to $100? You would go down the street to Burger King and buy a Whopper for $4. If McDonalds priced the Big Mac at $100, there would be public outrage because the price would be outside of what is considered reasonable and they would soon be seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in federal court.
These putas in third world Tijuana starting to charge $120 for half hour is pushing the bounds of what is reasonable. Consider that a USA Escort in an average big city such as Dallas, Denver or Phoenix charges about $200 for a full hour of outcall service. A Tijuana puta is basically asking for the same amount, which is ridiculous. A USA Escort works under considerable legal risk, which can result in fines, arrest and imprisonment, legal fees, criminal records, etc. A Tijuana puta is not threatened by any of these substantial legal penalties. And providing service in an on-site fully staffed hotel is considerably safer than traveling to provide service in an unknown hotel or personal residence. Not to mention the tremendous disparity in economic conditions between the two countries. If prostitution were decriminalized in the USA, prices would surely plummet to maybe even half of what they are now. Thus in my opinion $100-$120 for a half hour HK puta is not reasonable.
If a USA Escort has the alternative of working as a waitress or receptionist somewhere for $15/ HR, then a $200 1-hour session is equal to 13.3 hours of normal work. In Tijuana, the average cashier job pays about $250 mn daily, which translates to roughly $1.65/ HR. $1.65 x 13.3 = $22. So $22 would be the value of a full hour of HK service. A half hour would be valued at $11. And that's not even deducting any amount for not having to deal with legal issues like American putas do. All this being said, putas at HK should be fucking and sucking for less than $10 for half hour. But somehow, somewhere down the line, American mongers came down and threw the pricing structure all out of whack and it hasn't corrected itself since. Matter of fact, it's been getting worse. Tijuana hookers actually make more than their American counterparts. Name one other profession where one would earn more in Mexico than the USA For the same work.
I don't think woman sweat losing any man's money. I'm in Cascadas, seeing these woman go up the elevators constantly. Even the ones I wouldn't of dated for free three years ago. One thing, is guys need to stop giving dollars to girls walking around asking for it. Why should see have sex for 70 if she can make 35 hour walking around asking for "one dollar". And, if you are going to give a dollar, make her work for it for a full minute. I went to Baltimore strip club, these woman need more money to live than Hong kongs girls. They need four times the money. But they didn't ask for money. They walk up to me and dance for three to six minutes, let me smack their ass, and I give a dollar or two. Then they walk away and the next one comes. But these guys in Hong Kong, just want to give money away for free. And venture out to the other clubs. All the ones next to Hong Kong, have chicks to bang. Adwlitas, Chavelas, there's another one next to those with big stage, I walked in, must been ten attractive 25 year old woman working and two dollar beers. Pay with pesos for beer for cheap price.Stop giving dollar tips to HK chicas walking around? I would much rather give out a few singles as opposed to the $100 for arribas. I probably tip $20 in singles, but to 20 different women while doing my laps at HK. For those $20 singles, I get plenty of rubbing, hugging, kissing (OK, not DFK) from these different ladies. I get your point of not giving up $1 just because they ask, not getting anything in return, but I find there is far better value in tipping singles for a quick 10 second thrill than going arriba for 30 minutes at a ridiculous cost. I agree with you that there are plenty of chicks to bang at a better rate outside of HK. But, HK is HK. Got to give a little cheese there too! Hahaha.
Also to note we human beings are very subject to making emotional decisions and it goes both ways. So if you take a girl for $21 for a lap dance and you get a little hot and steamy in there. And if she like you a little she may come down on her price a bit if she knows your not willing to go upstairs for $100. So by the end of the lap dance she may come down to $80 or $70. Then again you just spent $21 on a lap dance so your still out $100. Oh well. Think of it as an investment into the Mexican economy.
This is such a non issue. You guys do not need to pay $125. There ISO many girls at HK that have zero sessions. There is maybe 5% that could get $125. Again you guys are spoiled.
Always good to keep your whits about you in HK and other bars. Had a lightweight jacket taken today with cheapo sunglasses in pocket. Nothing else lost so not a biggie but just a reminder that there are all kinds of customers and some who will take advantage of absent minded gringo's like myself who left it unattended in the next booth over for a few minutes. On the plus side the employees have always been totally honest tracking me down when I left sunglasses in one of the dance rooms etc.
Just had to share. BTW. Amazing girl from Monterrey MX today. Thin spinner. Kela. Can't remember her name exact but she was so open to everything and was So extremely intuitive to what makes a guy happy. She leaves tomorrow but comes back to HK in another couple weeks.
Captain Solo
10-28-19, 08:02
The bros should try to not ruin the market for a lot of the other bros and locals, who don't make as much money as gringos. I do know many of HK's hottest girls who would normally go with locals for 1,000 pesos.
For gringos, $70-80 or 1,500 pesos for a session is about fair. If the girls insist on $100 or more and show bad attitudes, the bros should just walk away and talk to other girls. Promise them the basic rate and dangle a propina to entice them. Most girls just hang out all night not selling any fichas or sessions. They welcome the approaches and negotiations, in fact they are happy that you would consider them.
Snag a good deal with another girl and walk her past the nasty rejects to teach them lessons.
Bro,
It's not that we can't afford the 100 or even 120 it's just that for a girl in a third world country $80 a session is still a lot of money for them to be earning. I know people in Tijuana that work 50-60 hour regular jobs and barely make $100 for the entire week. These girls are getting too greedy asking 100+ a session. Like I said before, to us that remember the 50-60 standard rates in HK, the fact that they have managed to double their asking rates is ridiculous. If we start accepting 100 as the norm trust me next thing you know they're going to want 150. And of course there's some poor saps who will pay it not knowing they are doing a disservice to their fellow mongers. It can get to the point where we might as well just bang American chicks without the hassle.
Of having to travel to Mexico.
OrganicAlo: yes that's the one! How could I forget the lip rings? She's so hot man. She has the perfect body. I can only imagine what her girlfriend looks like.This is ridiculous, it's capitalism. The people working regular jobs in Tijuana aren't taking their clothes off for stinky men. The girls at HK deserve to make whatever guys are willing to give to them. The club is packed. Why shouldn't they jack up the entry fee, why shouldn't the girls ask for as much money as they can? If it's not worth your time and money then find something else to do.
DramaFree11
10-28-19, 15:47
Stop giving dollar tips to HK chicas walking around? I would much rather give out a few singles as opposed to the $100 for arribas. I probably tip $20 in singles, but to 20 different women while doing my laps at HK. For those $20 singles, I get plenty of rubbing, hugging, kissing (OK, not DFK) from these different ladies. I get your point of not giving up $1 just because they ask, not getting anything in return, but I find there is far better value in tipping singles for a quick 10 second thrill than going arriba for 30 minutes at a ridiculous cost. I agree with you that there are plenty of chicks to bang at a better rate outside of HK. But, HK is HK. Got to give a little cheese there too! Hahaha.Sorry, completely disagree. I almost never tip singles, unless I want to get a girl off the stage. Much rather take a girl to Azul or the room.
Captain Solo
10-28-19, 17:59
The bros don't have to and should not tip girls who don't meet their criteria for attraction. If you tip girls you are not attracted to, they keep coming back hassling you for more. But if you decline once, they would remember and never approach you again. The chicas have photographic memories of guys in the club, who tip and who don't hehe.
OTOH, the bros should seek out and tip good strippers, hot dancers and attractive girls to encourage them to go to work and entertain us. Go around the club, give hot girls a few loose $, kiss them, hug them, squeeze their bouncy boobs and hot crotch, asking their names, where they come from, complimenting them for their beauty and grace, make nice gestures that show you care and respect them as good, honest, loving friends. A lot of younger girls in HK speak passable to good English. That would make you very popular and gain you a lot of hot friends and fun.
The $ tips are very small in the US earning scale for most guys who who can make it to Tijuana. They are just nice and economical gestures of friendship. Also occasionally tip honest, helpful meseros, valet parking guys, banos attendants, good security guys at the door. Nights before Christmas, I would have a stack of 50 and 100-peso notes in my pocket, tipping the workers in HK, including managers and MCs, wishing them Feliz Navidad, to show them my friendship and appreciation for their good work.
Compared to the US and other parts of the world, It's way cheap and easy to have fun times with hot girls in Tijuana. It's a small cost to relax among friends in the club and have sexy fun with the chicas.
ChinaMan360
10-28-19, 19:13
This is ridiculous, it's capitalism. The people working regular jobs in Tijuana aren't taking their clothes off for stinky men. The girls at HK deserve to make whatever guys are willing to give to them. The club is packed. Why shouldn't they jack up the entry fee, why shouldn't the girls ask for as much money as they can? If it's not worth your time and money then find something else to do.Sex sells. You have a point and so does he. The Honk Kong establishment realized that there is no supply of sex workers except illegal across the border and no real competition in the zona. Why shouldn't HK jack up prices or girls ask for as much money as possible? They have the right to do this and naturally there will always be push back from us the market. That's capitalism. So idk why you acting surprised people are pushing back. When you have a effective monopoly you can jack up prices all you want and ignore quality. Many of our fellow Americans are bad at handling money and no skill at haggling. We are known to foreigners as targets that are easily removed of their money (Source: Asian and travel a lot to 3rd world countries and able to talk to people). If there is no push back at all then they can keep this up until even you are uncomfortable. Its fairly revident that HK is experimenting, with a monger here confirming that the management has told the girls to always quote 100 and some mongers being quoted 120. Almost a 50% increase in quoted prices from last year in my experience. All this to see how much they can push up prices before profit margins are not where they like.
DramaFree11
10-29-19, 02:14
This is ridiculous, it's capitalism. The people working regular jobs in Tijuana aren't taking their clothes off for stinky men. The girls at HK deserve to make whatever guys are willing to give to them. The club is packed. Why shouldn't they jack up the entry fee, why shouldn't the girls ask for as much money as they can? If it's not worth your time and money then find something else to do.Well said. Great post.
The bros don't have to and should not tip girls who don't meet their criteria for attraction. If you tip girls you are not attracted to, they keep coming back hassling you for more. But if you decline once, they would remember and never approach you again. The chicas have photographic memories of guys in the club, who tip and who don't hehe.
OTOH, the bros should seek out and tip good strippers, hot dancers and attractive girls to encourage them to go to work and entertain us. Go around the club, give hot girls a few loose $, kiss them, hug them, squeeze their bouncy boobs and hot crotch, asking their names, where they come from, complimenting them for their beauty and grace, make nice gestures that show you care and respect them as good, honest, loving friends. A lot of younger girls in HK speak passable to good English. That would make you very popular and gain you a lot of hot friends and fun.
The $ tips are very small in the US earning scale for most guys who who can make it to Tijuana. They are just nice and economical gestures of friendship. Also occasionally tip honest, helpful meseros, valet parking guys, banos attendants, good security guys at the door. Nights before Christmas, I would have a stack of 50 and 100-peso notes in my pocket, tipping the workers in HK, including managers and MCs, wishing them Feliz Navidad, to show them my friendship and appreciation for their good work.
Compared to the US and other parts of the world, It's way cheap and easy to have fun times with hot girls in Tijuana. It's a small cost to relax among friends in the club and have sexy fun with the chicas.That's all great and all, but what about the point, that all these girls ask for a dollar for little to no reason? American strippers, with higher cost of living, look way better, and don't do this. And why should a girl have sex for 70 dollars if she can make 30-50 an hour walking around the club asking for one dollar. I watch, at least half the guys give a dollar for every girl that's asking, and some will give more than a dollar. Again, where's the motivation for affordable sex? Is this is working girl house or a charity event?
Hohoho! Halloween party October 31 - Thursday in Hong Kong and Adelita clubs. Chicas in halloween costumes!
TerOnlyOnce
10-29-19, 15:13
If a USA Escort has the alternative of working as a waitress or receptionist somewhere for $15/ HR, then a $200 1-hour session is equal to 13.3 hours of normal work. In Tijuana, the average cashier job pays about $250 mn daily, which translates to roughly $1.65/ HR. $1.65 x 13.3 = $22. So $22 would be the value of a full hour of HK service. A half hour would be valued at $11. And that's not even deducting any amount for not having to deal with legal issues like American putas do. All this being said, putas at HK should be fucking and sucking for less than $10 for half hour. But somehow, somewhere down the line, American mongers came down and threw the pricing structure all out of whack and it hasn't corrected itself since. Matter of fact, it's been getting worse. Tijuana hookers actually make more than their American counterparts. Name one other profession where one would earn more in Mexico than the USA For the same work.I understand what you are saying, but what do you suggest us mongers do? Okay so all these girls working in Tijuana should basically be receiving $22 for an hour of sex. Which is the comparable rate compared to sex in the USA. These girls have managed to hack up prices to $80-100 for a half hour. This is why I much prefer street girls. You get $20 for 20 minutes which is still overpriced if you're comparing to US prices and rates. Now I know why some really hot girls are okay with accepting just $20 for sex, the salaries are extremely low there. $1. 65 an hour? Holy shit.
These HK girls are milking the shit out of American dudes LOL. $80 for 15 minutes of sex! And the standard rate for a job is $1. 65 an hour? Holy fuck. It's unbelievable. And the rates are going up even higher. It must be a paradise for those HK girls. Making a lot of money for barely any effort.
Which again leads to the fundamental question, what should us mongers do? Should we stop going to HK? Should we stop going to Tijuana? How can we beat the market? How can we can sex at a price that is deserved? How can we get better service, hotter girls? If HK and the zona isn't the answer, what is?
RonFromSichuan
10-29-19, 17:26
I think I took this same girl up on my trip two weeks ago, she told me her name was Critzal and was wearing a different outfit.
I remember her showing me a tattoo on her arm and it was of a few kids, her only tattoo, she was 19 too I believe.
Was the tattoo fairly small, centered on the inside of her forearm?My apologies, I just saw this post. And yes, it sounds like the same girl. Her most distinguishing feature was her pregnancy marks, which was very noticeable due to her petite frame. I find it interesting how she changed her club name.
I read your report on her and I am sorry that she tried playing games with you. I also heard the same from another monger who replied to my report with the same critique of the girl. I guess I got really lucky with her. The only complaint I had with her is that she was on her phone a lot, but that goes for 1/2 of the girls at HK.
Speaking of this girl, if you ever see her in HK again let me know. Last week, she messaged me. I told her I miss Tijuana, and she responded by saying she would not be going back to Tijuana anymore, which I am calling BS on. She wanted me to visit her in Monterrey, but I don't want to risk getting kidnapped so I passed.
OrganicAlo
10-29-19, 20:51
Which again leads to the fundamental question, what should us mongers do? Should we stop going to HK? Should we stop going to Tijuana? How can we beat the market? How can we can sex at a price that is deserved? How can we get better service, hotter girls? If HK and the zona isn't the answer, what is?Cartel de Tijuana Mongers Nueva Generacion.
We set a price cap on all putas.
ScatManDoo
10-29-19, 21:02
I understand what you are saying, but what do you suggest us mongers do? Okay so all these girls working in Tijuana should basically be receiving $22 for an hour of sex. Which is the comparable rate compared to sex in the USA. These girls have managed to hack up prices to $80-100 for a half hour. This is why I much prefer street girls. You get $20 for 20 minutes which is still overpriced if you're comparing to US prices and rates. Now I know why some really hot girls are okay with accepting just $20 for sex, the salaries are extremely low there. $1. 65 an hour? Holy shit.
These HK girls are milking the shit out of American dudes LOL. $80 for 15 minutes of sex! And the standard rate for a job is $1. 65 an hour? Holy fuck. It's unbelievable. And the rates are going up even higher. It must be a paradise for those HK girls. Making a lot of money for barely any effort.
Which again leads to the fundamental question, what should us mongers do? Should we stop going to HK? Should we stop going to Tijuana? How can we beat the market? How can we can sex at a price that is deserved? How can we get better service, hotter girls? If HK and the zona isn't the answer, what is?In Spring 2013 I began making 100 peso offers to chicas at or near the crossroads "por suckie" until I had more than enough willing to go arriba to my room at the Leyva (now renamed the Posada de Santiago).
Dcrist0527
10-30-19, 03:25
Cartel de Tijuana Mongers Nueva Generacion.
We set a price cap on all putas.Hahaha Insert the El Muncho joke here.
ScatManDoo
10-30-19, 04:54
Man,
Not going to sugar coat it, this sounds like straight bitterness. I agree that you should walk away from a girl that won't budge from $100, there's just no reason to be bitter about it. These girls are basically sales people trying to make as much money as they can. If negotiations don't work between the two of you, just move onto the next one. Simple.Tididyekim: I think you may have a better understanding than he does.
Generally, in negotiations, he who cares the least wins (by possessing both a willingness, and genuine happiness with, simply walking away).
I understand what you are saying, but what do you suggest us mongers do? Okay so all these girls working in Tijuana should basically be receiving $22 for an hour of sex. Which is the comparable rate compared to sex in the USA. These girls have managed to hack up prices to $80-100 for a half hour. This is why I much prefer street girls. You get $20 for 20 minutes which is still overpriced if you're comparing to US prices and rates. Now I know why some really hot girls are okay with accepting just $20 for sex, the salaries are extremely low there. $1. 65 an hour? Holy shit.
These HK girls are milking the shit out of American dudes LOL. $80 for 15 minutes of sex! And the standard rate for a job is $1. 65 an hour? Holy fuck. It's unbelievable. And the rates are going up even higher. It must be a paradise for those HK girls. Making a lot of money for barely any effort.
Which again leads to the fundamental question, what should us mongers do? Should we stop going to HK? Should we stop going to Tijuana? How can we beat the market? How can we can sex at a price that is deserved? How can we get better service, hotter girls? If HK and the zona isn't the answer, what is?There is no competition from the USA. Unfortunately, there is no beautiful brothel with legal prostitution in San Diego or Los Angeles, with cold beer, music, etc. Where you pay $ 80 with beautiful girl for sex like in Hong Kong club. In California, the whole business of legal prostitution is illegal and Mexicans know it. There is no other choice but Zona Norte in Tijuana. But I don't think the price in HK will go up forever and in Adelita you can still pay $ 60.
DramaFree11
10-31-19, 19:19
There is no competition from the USA. Unfortunately, there is no beautiful brothel with legal prostitution in San Diego or Los Angeles, with cold beer, music, etc. Where you pay $ 80 with beautiful girl for sex like in Hong Kong club. In California, the whole business of legal prostitution is illegal and Mexicans know it. There is no other choice but Zona Norte in Tijuana. But I don't think the price in HK will go up forever and in Adelita you can still pay $ 60.Great point, I would add all of America, and there is nothing like HK in Mexico. Yet many still complain.
Jbookwitness
11-01-19, 02:45
How tough is it to negotiate sex in the VIP room rather than going to the hotel? How private is it, and how much time can you get, and at what cost?
Lakeside32
11-01-19, 06:46
I visit the island of Curaçao from time to time and there was once a convenient price surge at the brothel there. They tried doubling the rate from about 30 bucks to about 60 bucks. The locals pitched a ***** and stop going, and business suffered so they quickly returned to the original rate. In the case of Curacao I guess there weren't enough gringos around to to take advantage of, but at HK there are just too many gringos ready and willing to fork over 100 bucks for mediocre sex. Personally if I got the promise of some strenuous sex with a happy ending I would happily give 100.
She wanted me to visit her in Monterrey, but I don't want to risk getting kidnapped so I passed.Shirley, you can't be serious. Kidnapped? Do you have family in Mexico? Rich relatives in the US? Go, wander around for a day or two, then call her and tell her you're in town. Go easy on the paranoia.
There is no competition from the USA. Unfortunately, there is no beautiful brothel with legal prostitution in San Diego or Los Angeles, with cold beer, music, etc. Where you pay $ 80 with beautiful girl for sex like in Hong Kong club. In California, the whole business of legal prostitution is illegal and Mexicans know it. There is no other choice but Zona Norte in Tijuana. But I don't think the price in HK will go up forever and in Adelita you can still pay $ 60.There are lots of other choices in Tijuana besides the Zona Norte.
ClamSlammer
11-01-19, 14:44
Those of you who think HK is so great because there's nothing comparable in the USA, that's a really myopic point of view. [Deleted by Admin]. It's understandable. I guess it is like flying the family to Disneyland once every ten years and just paying the inflated prices at the amusement park.
But consider more than just a bunch of scantily clad putas available for money, because it seems that is all you guys are thinking about. Consider that the whole establishment is one giant rip-off. What is offered is way outside the norms of established local economic boundaries. All following prices are converted to dollars to make it easier to follow. A beer at a normal bar is about $. 80. At HK it is $4. That's 5 x more than the going local rate. Let's say a beer at a USA bar is $4. Would you go to the local strip club and buy beers at $20 per bottle? A tiny little 7 oz ficha beer costs $9. If a grown man wage is $27/ day in Tijuana, a ficha equals 1/3 of a man's daily wage. So if a gringo makes $180/ day in USA, that's equal to paying $60 for 7 ounces of beer. Would you pay $60 to buy a stripper a tiny beer in America? Do you guys know how much a 16.9 oz bottle of Kirkland water costs for a puta at HK? It's something like $27. Add to that the constant mesero rip-offs and scams that make the experience even more expensive. And that's not even mentioning that Tijuana hookers make as much or more than their American counterparts, which is just plain ludicrous.
There is a line where if crossed, it just becomes a rip-off fueled by pure greed of the proprietor. HK and most of ZN have already crossed that line. That is why when I go, I don't spend a lot of money. My first couple of years of going to Tijuana, I thought like many of you do. I didn't care about prices because I was used to making a good American income. I'd spend $100-$200 every night just buying fichas. It wasn't a big deal to me because it was like a half day's worth of income. But then as I starting going more and more, and learning more about local economics, I began to realize that ZN is a huge, price-gouging tourist trap. And now when I go, I don't spend that much. I'll go out with maybe $30, buy a few beers then go home with still a couple bucks in my pocket.
ScatManDoo
11-01-19, 19:36
How tough is it to negotiate sex in the VIP room rather than going to the hotel? How private is it, and how much time can you get, and at what cost?You get the same "It Varies" answer to each of your four questions.
KC Questor
11-02-19, 00:39
This is exactly why some guys pay $100 for an arriba. It's why some guys don't bother paying SGs in pesos. It's why they are fine with paying $9 to grope a girl for 15 minutes.
Because in Omaha (or Kansas City), that girl you are going arriba with would be charging $300. The only street girls are ripoff crackheads, so paying $30 instead of 300 pesos is no big deal. And it costs $30 per song to grope a girl in a strip club (if it's even allowed).
The comparison to Disney is perfect. There's a reason parents will pay $10 for a plastic cup filled with sugar water at Disneyland: It's a rare treat to go and it makes the kids happy. It's the same thing for many guys going to Tijuana.
Stl Danish
11-02-19, 03:07
I eyed on this darker skin big tits skinny girl with shoulder length hair, which I later on leaned her name is Lucy. 7 in look and 8 in body. She went with another dude, so I move my sight away and try to find other girls. Half hour later, I still didn't find one, and I saw that Lucy was back on the floor. She sat by the dancing stage, and we made a few eye contact. She didn't come over. I thought she was not interested, but later I found out it was because she was getting ready to go onto the dancing stage. She did great dance with crazy spin. I also got to see her asset as she dance. I continued to make eye contact with her, and she came to my booth after the dance.
She can speak OK English, so I brought her a few ficha so that we can chat a little bit and exam her asset. Although I wanted to and made effort to establish some sort of connection with girls before going upstairs, I found the conversations are almost always superficial and meaningless. We talked about her tattoos, where she is from, what is my origin and ethnicity, and had a little game of guess each other's age. Having a normal conversation is also very difficult with the language barrier and the loud music. A few minutes into the conversation, I started running out of topic. So I ask her to sit on me so that I can feel some action. She moved her ass counter clockwise, and I check her asset. I was waiting for her to start the discussion of going upstairs because I though that might increase the likelihood of having a good session. A few more minutes past, and she still didn't ask, so I did. She quoted me 80, and I asked about services. She said everything but anal, which is fair. At that point, I actually didn't feel like having sex at all. It was probably because it was already 2 am east time, and I had multiple beer and cognac. I am not a big fan of drinking, but I drank because I consider that is part of the game. I also feel obligated to drink as I am in the club even though I know that I don't have to buy any drink. However, I sill want to go up stairs with her, mainly because I made all these effort getting to Tijuana and I feel that I am obligated to myself to have at least one session. I asked if we can go over 30 minutes. She said that is fine and she will tell the door knocker. I said I have a room in hotel Cascadas, and she responded that is even better..If this is the Lucy that I know, she's a pretty cool chick. Sounds like it may be her, but shoulder length hair and tattoos, slim with big tits is probably 70% of the girls at HK so you never know. Haha.
TerOnlyOnce
11-03-19, 21:21
Those of you who think HK is so great because there's nothing comparable in the USA, that's a really myopic point of view. Some of you Charlie Cornhusker fly in once a year from Nebraska on vacation and don't really care about getting ripped off because there's nothing even close to HK in Omaha. It's understandable. I guess it is like flying the family to Disneyland once every ten years and just paying the inflated prices at the amusement park.
But consider more than just a bunch of scantily clad putas available for money, because it seems that is all you guys are thinking about. Consider that the whole establishment is one giant rip-off. What is offered is way outside the norms of established local economic boundaries. All following prices are converted to dollars to make it easier to follow. A beer at a normal bar is about $. 80. At HK it is $4. That's 5 x more than the going local rate. Let's say a beer at a USA bar is $4. Would you go to the local strip club and buy beers at $20 per bottle? A tiny little 7 oz ficha beer costs $9. If a grown man wage is $27/ day in Tijuana, a ficha equals 1/3 of a man's daily wage. So if a gringo makes $180/ day in USA, that's equal to paying $60 for 7 ounces of beer. Would you pay $60 to buy a stripper a tiny beer in America? Do you guys know how much a 16.9 oz bottle of Kirkland water costs for a puta at HK? It's something like $27..Yes we understand the problem. Now what is the solution? Yes there will be an infinite number of gringos that go to Hong Kong and are more than happy to pay $100 and $120 for sex at HK, big whoop. That's not going to stop anytime soon. In fact, assume that this scam industry will go on forever. Why wouldn't it? Tons of tourists pour into HK every day. Each tourist may only come by once a year or once every few years. Therefore each gringo thinks the same: they don't go that much so let's spend all the cash. And there you have a scam industry.
But enough about that, what is the solution? In my opinion it's probably best to not go to HK anymore. Probably best to stick to street girls or negotiating with independent girls to actually get a solid deal and solid experience. Also, there are other countries that are better for mongering. For example, I'm heading to Montreal end of this month, heard they have upscale agencies there with 9's and 10's charging affordable rates, like $160 for the hour. The point is, explore more, and find a good place that truly satisfies you and is fair to you as a monger.
HK is just not a fair place for a monger. The place doesn't work like that. It is tipped too far against the monger due to the amount of tourism. Don't bother competing in a rigged system, find a better system.
So this happened to me 2 times. I would connect well with a girl and everything is going well over ficha. Great connections and lots of fun. Then all of sudden, would say she needs to go to her locker and will come back. They said to wait for them. I see them walk up stairs to their locker and never to be returned. Why can't they just say their shift is over and they need to go. It is rude and is a waste of time. Of course I go get another after awhile but it is irritating. Just wondering if this had happened to anyone else so next time I know how to respond to such actions.
ChinaMan360
11-05-19, 02:24
Those of you who think HK is so great because there's nothing comparable in the USA, that's a really myopic point of view. Some of you Charlie Cornhusker fly in once a year from Nebraska on vacation and don't really care about getting ripped off because there's nothing even close to HK in Omaha. It's understandable. I guess it is like flying the family to Disneyland once every ten years and just paying the inflated prices at the amusement park.
But consider more than just a bunch of scantily clad putas available for money, because it seems that is all you guys are thinking about. Consider that the whole establishment is one giant rip-off. What is offered is way outside the norms of established local economic boundaries. All following prices are converted to dollars to make it easier to follow. A beer at a normal bar is about $. 80. At HK it is $4. That's 5 x more than the going local rate. Let's say a beer at a USA bar is $4. Would you go to the local strip club and buy beers at $20 per bottle? A tiny little 7 oz ficha beer costs $9. If a grown man wage is $27/ day in Tijuana, a ficha equals 1/3 of a man's daily wage. So if a gringo makes $180/ day in USA, that's equal to paying $60 for 7 ounces of beer. Would you pay $60 to buy a stripper a tiny beer in America? Do you guys know how much a 16.9 oz bottle of Kirkland water costs for a puta at HK? It's something like $27. Add to that the constant mesero rip-offs and scams that make the experience even more expensive. And that's not even mentioning that Tijuana hookers make as much or more than their American counterparts, which is just plain ludicrous.Spot on man. I'm a numbers guy because of my day job and seeing the plain price gouging makes me uneasy. If people want to get ripped of they can go ahead and do it. They are just supporting this scam that's going on. Don't be a gullible tourist. Girls now are not budging from 100 and a lot of mongers I talked to have said 120 is now common.
So this happened to me 2 times. I would connect well with a girl and everything is going well over ficha. Great connections and lots of fun. Then all of sudden, would say she needs to go to her locker and will come back. They said to wait for them. I see them walk up stairs to their locker and never to be returned. Why can't they just say their shift is over and they need to go. It is rude and is a waste of time. Of course I go get another after awhile but it is irritating. Just wondering if this had happened to anyone else so next time I know how to respond to such actions.No never happened. I do the same to the woman.
I tell them let's have sex in hour to give me a chance to breathe, avoid a angry girl, and to walk to other bar. Most don't remember next time they see me. My advice, have mint in your mouth and small amount of cologne. Like one pump. If she can smell it 3 inches away you put on too much. And clean fingernails. The girls look at fingernails. Obviously clean clothes.
Aviator400
11-05-19, 18:24
So this happened to me 2 times. I would connect well with a girl and everything is going well over ficha. Great connections and lots of fun. Then all of sudden, would say she needs to go to her locker and will come back. They said to wait for them. I see them walk up stairs to their locker and never to be returned. Why can't they just say their shift is over and they need to go. It is rude and is a waste of time. Of course I go get another after awhile but it is irritating. Just wondering if this had happened to anyone else so next time I know how to respond to such actions.Could be many reasons. Caught up with a girl that I had TLNed with a few times and thought we had a good connection. She goes home for a few months, comes back, I find her in HK. She says she wants to change clothes and will come back to my table. I wait about 30 minutes. No show. Message her and she says she has left the club. No reason given. My guess is that she went to make a drug connection, but that is pure speculation. It is irritating. However, it is easy enough to move on.
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