Hong Kong Club Reports

[Captain Solo]

Friday night HK was packed by 10 PM.

There were a lot of hot new girls. A couple hot girls were dancing on the bar showing off their sexy bodies. Guys would approach them to take them for fichas but they said straight out not drinking, only going arriba. One arriba in half hour would make the girls the equivalent of 30 fichas, or sitting and bullshitting with guys 8 hour straight. And they would aim to do 3 to 4 arribas a night. So the girls would focus on arribas over fichas or lap dances.

Alaska is an innocent-looking petite with a pretty face, a yellow bow in her streaked blonde hair, probably 18,5'2 100 lbs, medium build with perky natural boobs, flat ab, long legs, smooth light skin with no blemishes or tattoos. Her nose is bigger than usual, but she is pretty to my taste. She was dancing on the bar. Meseros brought a few guys to her but she rudely rejected them, would not even look at their faces or shake their hands. Looks like she was very selective whom she would fuck or drink with. She told me "Cien Dollares" firm for arriba. I offered her $80 but she did not bite, seemed indignant. I figured with her haughty attitude, she would allow only very restrictive session in bed, so I did not proceed with her.

Emma, Alaska's winggirl, has similar petite looks, pretty face, small frame, smooth light skin, no tats. The duo was hanging around the main stage all night not going arribas or bought fichas, only a few $ propinas into their bikinis. Will try to convince these girls again. It was odd that some of the hottest girls did not get offers or went arribas on a very busy Friday night.

Later I pulled a known girl with a classic pretty Spanish face, soft smooth skin and small natural boobs which have grown bigger recently. She's very sweet and loving, one of my favorite. I really enjoyed kissing, licking her warm, buttery soft smooth skin, sucking on her clit. Her expressions were the prettiest and sexiest. But the cold weather made it difficult for erection and ejaculation. Had a sexy time with her nonetheless.

Came back to the club, sitting at bar Kowloon, bullshitting with a few new guys. 4 young black guys just flew in from NYC, marveled at the hot girls, thought they were in sex heaven. One guy slapped a girl's butt pretty hard as she walked past. She got very angry, confronted him. The guys were scared, not knowing what to do. I suggested the guys to tip her. She took the $ off her bra and threw it back in his face, then called security over. The security guy was trying to explain HK's rules in his very broken English. I suggested the guys to bribe the security guy, but he collared and ejected them from the club. Too bad, the guys did not even have enough time in the club a eat a few HK pussies hehe.

In that scenario, if the girls know the guys, they would allow some touching, groping, squeezing, but they would likely feel assaulted if slapped hard by unknown guys on their butts or their faces. HK girls do have their pride and self respect. They want to be treated with care, love, respect, kisses, hugs, soft touches, not rough manhandling. They have enough dignity not running to show off guys who rain hundreds $ bill in the bar.

[ScottHall]

Yes or no. I caught the attention of a stunner in pig tails. Perfect everything, never seen her before. Probably because she's always occupied upstairs. I told her I wanted to see her dance or something so she begrudgingly took a ficha. She kept giving me an ultimatum of yes or no LOL. She wanted nothing to do with wasting her time nickel and diming. I can't blame them if they only get a dollar off of a ficha. But some girls are more than happy to hang out and nickel and dime it.

[Promolion]

Nope. Mexican from Mexico city. Anyways, Just got back from a Saturday night. There were only a few talents and the rest are the usual hustlers. There are not a lot of good looking girls and I saw a couple of guys fell asleep in the club. I think I am going to take a break for a bit from HK. The ugly girls are all quoting 100 which is kinda funny. Anyone know when the pretty ones are coming back or more girls are coming? I might just wait until then.


Was this girl filipina and pretty short?

[OrganicAlo]

Nope. Mexican from Mexico city. Anyways, Just got back from a Saturday night. There were only a few talents and the rest are the usual hustlers. There are not a lot of good looking girls and I saw a couple of guys fell asleep in the club. I think I am going to take a break for a bit from HK. The ugly girls are all quoting 100 which is kinda funny. Anyone know when the pretty ones are coming back or more girls are coming? I might just wait until then.Ah, I've gone arriba twice now with this filipina chica who did the same thing, no more repeats with her tho LOL.

I was at Hk about 2 weeks ago and decided to take a little break myself, not returning til Feb sometime for my buddies bday.

[SenorTJ]

Yes or no. I caught the attention of a stunner in pig tails. Perfect everything, never seen her before. Probably because she's always occupied upstairs. I told her I wanted to see her dance or something so she begrudgingly took a ficha. She kept giving me an ultimatum of yes or no LOL. She wanted nothing to do with wasting her time nickel and diming. I can't blame them if they only get a dollar off of a ficha. But some girls are more than happy to hang out and nickel and dime it.If she's pushy or gives you an ultimatum, you fire back with Will you do X, why and Z? Always be ready to specify what you desire.

Coffee's for closers!

[Member #4722]

When HK is slow take your butts to Chicago, tropical or ant of the other bars many hot women.

[Captain Solo]

I went in Adelita last Friday before Christmas. There were fewer girls than usual but there were a few hot spinner worth fucking. A fairly chunky stripper was dancing for about 10 guys sitting at the stage, but none of them tip the girl. That's pretty cheap. I always tip strippers as they have to work hard to entertain us, well, except the big, fat, flabby, butt ugly ones hehe.

Hotel Coahuila on top of Adelita has special all night room for $20 Mon through Wednesday, no special VIP required, a good deal, but it has no on-line reservation. You just have to show up early and claim the room.

I went into Las Chavelas. There were a few hot spinners too. Chavelas girls are usually new to La Zona, not as slick and sexy as HK girls, but they can give you some honest hot sex in hotel Cascada for $50 to $60.

HK is like a huge harem with dozens of the hottest and sweetest girls ready to entertain, have fun and hot sex. After you get to know them, they are like good friends or even family hehe. I always kiss and hug the hot girls I know, asking them how they are, how's business etc. Most of the younger girls speak adequate English. They are good friends and hot sex partners in and out of bed.

The pics are Yahanna or Yselle, a hot stripper who won the Stripper of the Year first prize last year. Hot huh?

[RolandoMota]

Hi guys,

Due to unforeseen circumstances, my trip this past September had to be cancelled. I am going at the end of January and staying at Hotel Cascadas for the first time. I booked the double deluxe room. The question I have is, when I get there, can I purchase the the VIP card and then get the discount. Or do I have to pay the full amount. I'm going to stay starting on a Tuesday.

[The Tall Man]

I went in Adelita last Friday before Christmas. There were fewer girls than usual but there were a few hot spinner worth fucking. A fairly chunky stripper was dancing for about 10 guys sitting at the stage, but none of them tip the girl. That's pretty cheap. I always tip strippers as they have to work hard to entertain us, well, except the big, fat, flabby, butt ugly ones hehe.

Hotel Coahuila on top of Adelita has special all night room for $20 Mon through Wednesday, no special VIP required, a good deal, but it has no on-line reservation. You just have to show up early and claim the room.

I went into Las Chavelas. There were a few hot spinners too. Chavelas girls are usually new to La Zona, not as slick and sexy as HK girls, but they can give you some honest hot sex in hotel Cascada for $50 to $60.

HK is like a huge harem with dozens of the hottest and sweetest girls ready to entertain, have fun and hot sex. After you get to know them, they are like good friends or even family hehe. I always kiss and hug the hot girls I know, asking them how they are, how's business etc. Most of the younger girls speak adequate English. They are good friends and hot sex partners in and out of bed.

The pics are Yahanna or Yselle, a hot stripper who won the Stripper of the Year first prize last year. Hot huh?Damn Captain she is cute!

The Tall Man.

[ScottHall]

Saturday night was slim pickings. Packed with dudes as usual but there weren't very many girls as they all went home. There wasn't much to do. Adalitas actually had better options. A decent amount of girls were there and some new faces.

[Mexidan]

Hi guys,

Due to unforeseen circumstances, my trip this past September had to be cancelled. I am going at the end of January and staying at Hotel Cascadas for the first time. I booked the double deluxe room. The question I have is, when I get there, can I purchase the the VIP card and then get the discount. Or do I have to pay the full amount. I'm going to stay starting on a Tuesday.I always drop my luggage at check in desk, tell the clerk that I'm going to go buy the card, then come back with the card and square up for the room.

[Rainman306]

I've seen the posts on here about the HK VIP Card and what benefits it has and how quickly it might pay for itself. I have a mindset for a cost / benefit analysis of using the next cheapest available option when doing a cost / benefit analysis.

For example, comparing the HK room price after discount to the price of a room at Chicago clubs hotel, which is $25 every night. Valuing the daily free beer to a standard bar where it may only cost a $1 or 2.

I think the HK VIP Card still has value, but likely think you need to take advantage of at least 1 80% off hotel night or have for sure 2+ trips planned in the 3 month span. I guess optimally you would stay Mon / Tues to get 80% off both nights & then get a free drink and 1/2 lap dance each day.

[Captain Solo]

To Rolandp.

When you arrive, go to HK's front office and buy your VP card.

Check in at Cascada's reception. After they confirm you room, show your VIP card and you will get your discount.

Cascada has been very honest and fair with clients as far as I know for the last 15 years.

[Goyo61]

Just back from trip to Malaysia. Thailand and Singaporean. Comparing to Tijuana. HK. Thailand was amazing as normal. In Patong girl had my dick out stroking away in the bar while trying to be a little discreet.

HK kicks ass on Singapore where it's legal but not in a cool bar like atmosphere but the girls line up when you walk into the little brothels and you look them over but it's not easy to see what their full body looks like compared to HK.

I screwed girls in each country so was cool experience but helps to realize how nice we have it in HK and Tijuana res light.

G.

[Dogers69]

I've seen the posts on here about the HK VIP Card and what benefits it has and how quickly it might pay for itself. I have a mindset for a cost / benefit analysis of using the next cheapest available option when doing a cost / benefit analysis.

For example, comparing the HK room price after discount to the price of a room at Chicago clubs hotel, which is $25 every night. Valuing the daily free beer to a standard bar where it may only cost a $1 or 2.

I think the HK VIP Card still has value, but likely think you need to take advantage of at least 1 80% off hotel night or have for sure 2+ trips planned in the 3 month span. I guess optimally you would stay Mon / Tues to get 80% off both nights & then get a free drink and 1/2 lap dance each day.I'm quick to criticize quality hk sex, price, annoying waiters, but the VIP card is excellent. Adelitas is not easy to get a room on a Wednesday which has the 20 dollar price. I've gotten shut out few times even arriving at 6 pm. The other nights, I'm fairly certain the price is 45 not 25 unless something has changed. Monday Tues wed is the 20 dollar price. You also can't take HK girls up to Adelitas. The HK limo service is useless I'll admit that. Uber is cheaper unless its Friday sat night then uber can be 5 bucks. But with HK VIP, you get free drink every 12 hrs. I get beer at night show up in morning 12 hours later for juice see what's going on. I can still use coupons for 2 beers Monday Tuesday and not get free drink with VIP card. I can use VIP card at tropical hotel, and 1 half price lap dance, although I rarely use it cause the girls don't have time for a dance. But the easy access to walk in and out, on nights there's a cover, and the HK hotel discount, I've saved probably 300 on my 50 dollar VIP card. And you get extra 15 minutes in room if the girl is open to that and you remembered to show your VIP card. Once you have VIP card, you can go to HK, stay in hotel, get lap dance, tacos, pay some dollar tips, have 3 beers, and do all this for 30 bucks. Not bad night for 30 bucks.

[Goyo61]

A couple months ago another guy also spanked a soap-sud girl hard and the bouncer did not take kindly to the guy. They didn't get thrown out but could have been.

G.


Friday night HK was packed by 10 PM.

There were a lot of hot new girls. A couple hot girls were dancing on the bar showing off their sexy bodies. Guys would approach them to take them for fichas but they said straight out not drinking, only going arriba. One arriba in half hour would make the girls the equivalent of 30 fichas, or sitting and bullshitting with guys 8 hour straight. And they would aim to do 3 to 4 arribas a night. So the girls would focus on arribas over fichas or lap dances.

Alaska is an innocent-looking petite with a pretty face, a yellow bow in her streaked blonde hair, probably 18,5'2 100 lbs, medium build with perky natural boobs, flat ab, long legs, smooth light skin with no blemishes or tattoos. Her nose is bigger than usual, but she is pretty to my taste. She was dancing on the bar. Meseros brought a few guys to her but she rudely rejected them, would not even look at their faces or shake their hands. Looks like she was very selective whom she would fuck or drink with. She told me "Cien Dollares" firm for arriba. I offered her $80 but she did not bite, seemed indignant. I figured with her haughty attitude, she would allow only very restrictive session in bed, so I did not proceed with her..

[DramaFree11]

I've seen the posts on here about the HK VIP Card and what benefits it has and how quickly it might pay for itself. I have a mindset for a cost / benefit analysis of using the next cheapest available option when doing a cost / benefit analysis.

For example, comparing the HK room price after discount to the price of a room at Chicago clubs hotel, which is $25 every night. Valuing the daily free beer to a standard bar where it may only cost a $1 or 2.

I think the HK VIP Card still has value, but likely think you need to take advantage of at least 1 80% off hotel night or have for sure 2+ trips planned in the 3 month span. I guess optimally you would stay Mon / Tues to get 80% off both nights & then get a free drink and 1/2 lap dance each day.The VIP is great value and Hk is as well, but guys will always find a reason to complain. If it was free they would still find something wrong.

As far as this $100, price, go during the day or early evening, and you can definitely get well below that mark. Late evening quality goes up and prices do as well. I probably been there at least 200 times, never has a girl asked for more then $100.

[WombatEd2]

HK kicks ass on Singapore where it's legal but not in a cool bar like atmosphere but the girls line up when you walk into the little brothels and you look them over but it's not easy to see what their full body looks like compared to HK.Singapore is a little more complicated than just the "little brothels" in the Geylang district. Any newbie going there should read up in ISG's Singapore forums about the other kinds of clubs, brothels, and bar scenes.

And don't go there if all you're looking for is sex. It's about the most expensive place in Southeast Asia. Hong Kong and Thailand are also expensive. For bargains, check out Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia.

[DramaFree11]

Singapore is a little more complicated than just the "little brothels" in the Geylang district. Any newbie going there should read up in ISG's Singapore forums about the other kinds of clubs, brothels, and bar scenes.

And don't go there if all you're looking for is sex. It's about the most expensive place in Southeast Asia. Hong Kong and Thailand are also expensive. For bargains, check out Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia.Tijuana is much cheaper then guys think, especially when you add in Travel Expenses traveling overseas. Especially for a Newbie you will get taken advantage of one way or another. Overseas is great if you have time and budget, but you need both especially the first couple of trips.

[KC Questor]

For example, comparing the HK room price after discount to the price of a room at Chicago clubs hotel, which is $25 every night. Valuing the daily free beer to a standard bar where it may only cost a $1 or 2.Just a note though. Hotel Jalos (Chicago Club hotel) is cheap but there is often no hot water and rooms don't have heat. It's not a comfortable place to stay in the winter. A better option on Mon-Wed is Hotel Coahuila (Adelita Bar hotel). The rooms are not Cascadas-level, but are comfortable and only $20 for the night.


The other nights, I'm fairly certain the price is 45 not 25 unless something has changed.
He was talking about Hotel Jalos (Chicago), not Coahuila (Adelita)

[Captain Solo]

Sunday afternoon the weather was cold. I did not feel like going to Tijuana but eventually was convinced to go. 3 of us got to Tijuana about 2 PM. There were not many hot girls in HK so we headed out to the Cathedral Plaza for a late lunch.

Got back to HK about 3. More hot girls showed up. Yselle and Tesla showed up but disappeared immediately, could not be found for the rest of the afternoon. Found Stephanie by the railing, about mid 20's, very pretty with curly blonde hair, tall, medium built, light skin, no tats, with some of the most beautiful shapes and curves on her body. She looked more like Scandinavian, Swedish girl, as hot as a movie star like Scarlett Johansson in this pic. She was walking around the club poking guys for business.

I gave her a propina and checked her boobs, perky and all natural. She spoke adequate English. We agreed on a figure. She was a very nice girls, smiling sweetly with gentle manners of proper ladies, telling me "Let's go, let's go." I told her to wait as I had to digest the lunch first. I went to the banos for a few minutes. When I got back she had disappeared. I walked all 3 floors in the club a few times but could not find her. Have to look for her again this week.

Traded pleasantries with a guy named Tito near the stage. He flew down with a friend from Oakland once a year or so and was extremely happy in HK, living up the sexy high life. He just got in but already finished half a bottle of frozen Don Julio 70 and was feeling happy, offered me a shot. I never liked Tequilas before but tried a sip. Unlike other Tequilas, that Don Julio bottle was fragrant, very mild, slightly sweet but very strong. I liked it a lot, took a few more shots. That Tequila was good, tasty, no hang over. Will buy a few bottles cheap at the duty-free stores near PedWest.

The Oakland guy was high. He offered the bottle to a stripper on stage, pouring down her throat. She loved that stuff, gurgling it down. That brought on a big argument with security. HK girls are employed to push fichas and make big money for the club; they are not allowed to drink from his private bottle hehe. He got so drunk, proposed to buy me a session with Zulma, including hotel. I had to turn him down.

I leaned on the floor manager for free beers to chase down the Tequila. The guy pretended he did not speak English, did not understand my request, but wrote out a note to the bar tender for 2 free beers. Had fun bullshitting with the bros from out of town who cannot go to Tijuana frequently and would live it up when they are in town. We keep counting our blessings living nearby.

Had too many Tequila shots and beers, feeling a gentle high. The wingman had to drive back, crossing the border at about 7 PM; there were no lines in REGULAR and READY lanes, very unusual. Don Julio 70 sells in store for about $50 for 500 ML bottle, very good drink. In HK, bottles' prices are usually quadrupled for the privilege of watching HK girls.

Had some sexy fun for an otherwise boring Sunday afternoon. Looking forward to the New Year's Eve party on Tuesday night. Have to find that hot Stephanie again.

[FreeSheep]

Going to get a 9th floor single today (I like the atmosphere). Going to be patient and snipe a top girl and pay for whole night experience. Is $250 enough? Thinking of keep paying mesero until he finds a hottie for me if I end up too lazy to walk. Thanks for the advice and happy new year guys.

[Dcrist0527]

Sunday afternoon the weather was cold. I did not feel like going to Tijuana but eventually was convinced to go. 3 of us got to Tijuana about 2 PM. There were not many hot girls in HK so we headed out to the Cathedral Plaza for a late lunch.

Got back to HK about 3. More hot girls showed up. Yselle and Tesla showed up but disappeared immediately, could not be found for the rest of the afternoon. Found Stephanie by the railing, about mid 20's, very pretty with curly blonde hair, tall, medium built, light skin, no tats, with some of the most beautiful shapes and curves on her body. She looked more like Scandinavian, Swedish girl, as hot as a movie star like Scarlett Johansson in this pic. She was walking around the club poking guys for business.

I gave her a propina and checked her boobs, perky and all natural. She spoke adequate English. We agreed on a figure. She was a very nice girls, smiling sweetly with gentle manners of proper ladies, telling me "Let's go, let's go." I told her to wait as I had to digest the lunch first. I went to the banos for a few minutes. When I got back she had disappeared. I walked all 3 floors in the club a few times but could not find her. Have to look for her again this week.

Traded pleasantries with a guy named Tito near the stage. He flew down with a friend from Oakland once a year or so and was extremely happy in HK, living up the sexy high life. He just got in but already finished half a bottle of frozen Don Julio 70 and was feeling happy, offered me a shot. I never liked Tequilas before but tried a sip. Unlike other Tequilas, that Don Julio bottle was fragrant, very mild, slightly sweet but very strong. I liked it a lot, took a few more shots. That Tequila was good, tasty, no hang over. Will buy a few bottles cheap at the duty-free stores near PedWest..Don Julio 70 has become my favorite tequila. It is smooth and a bit sweet. No real burn. It goes down a bit too easy. I usually pick up a bottle at Soriana (when you can find it there) for about $43. I actually didn't know that HK served it. Sometimes it is hard to find. I will regret finding out it is there. LOL.

[KC Questor]

Going to get a 9th floor single today (I like the atmosphere). Going to be patient and snipe a top girl and pay for whole night experience. Is $250 enough? Thinking of keep paying mesero until he finds a hottie for me if I end up too lazy to walk. Thanks for the advice and happy new year guys.Good luck getting a TLN from a bar girl tonight. Considering how few ladies and how many guys I'd expect them to want to stay available and get as many arribas as possible rather than stick with one guy for the night. Still, $250 might do it. That's three regular dates, so maybe worth it for her. Best bet is to wait for one who is getting off shift.

[SinfullyKorean]

I've never gone during NYE. Is there good talent? Bad guy: girl ratio? I'm about 2 hours away (driving down from OC). Trying figure out if it's worth driving down and back up.

[LuvMexicanas]

Don Julio 70 has become my favorite tequila. It is smooth and a bit sweet. No real burn. It goes down a bit too easy. I usually pick up a bottle at Soriana (when you can find it there) for about $43. I actually didn't know that HK served it. Sometimes it is hard to find. I will regret finding out it is there. LOL.Give Maestro Dobel Diamante a try. I pick it up at the Super Ley in Puerto Penasco for around 550-590 pesos when I vacation there so my guess is prices will be similar in Tijuana unless you go to one of those price gouging shops on Revo. It is a reposado but through their process they somehow made it clear. It is beyond smooth. I'd never heard of it until some local buddies of mine in CDMX introduced me to it. It's all they drink.

[Nothing24]

Went to HK Monday night, it was the most dead I had ever seen it as far as the amount of girls available. Got there around 6 pm and left at 8. There wasn't really any super hot girls out to be honest. In fact I ended up banging a chick off the street, she was even hotter than the HK girls that night in my opinion. Very nice long legs in a school girl outfit and she was a pleaser with a no rush attitude. Best $25 I ever spent. Definitely felt better with the money saved as opposed to banging a HK girl. Some nice gems out in the rough if you venture out and seek. I'll probably stay away from HK for at least a couple weeks. Have barely seen some of my favs working this past month. Happy new year fellow mongers!

[BrotherMouzone]

I'm quick to criticize quality hk sex, price, annoying waiters, but the VIP card is excellent. Adelitas is not easy to get a room on a Wednesday which has the 20 dollar price. I've gotten shut out few times even arriving at 6 pm. The other nights, I'm fairly certain the price is 45 not 25 unless something has changed. Monday Tues wed is the 20 dollar price. You also can't take HK girls up to Adelitas. The HK limo service is useless I'll admit that. Uber is cheaper unless its Friday sat night then uber can be 5 bucks. But with HK VIP, you get free drink every 12 hrs. I get beer at night show up in morning 12 hours later for juice see what's going on. I can still use coupons for 2 beers Monday Tuesday and not get free drink with VIP card. I can use VIP card at tropical hotel, and 1 half price lap dance, although I rarely use it cause the girls don't have time for a dance. But the easy access to walk in and out, on nights there's a cover, and the HK hotel discount, I've saved probably 300 on my 50 dollar VIP card. And you get extra 15 minutes in room if the girl is open to that and you remembered to show your VIP card. Once you have VIP card, you can go to HK, stay in hotel, get lap dance, tacos, pay some dollar tips, have 3 beers, and do all this for 30 bucks. Not bad night for 30 bucks.Yeah I've gotten the VIP card a couple of times and definitely think it's worth it. Not sure why you consider the limo service "useless" though? I visit Tijuana a couple times a year (going back and forth between the SD border for the few days I'm down there) and found it of solid value, just paying $2 (tip) for trips between the border and HK vs. $6 (including tip). Have never had an issue catching the limo from HK to the border, though I think PedWest HK pickup from the border to HK is often closed late at night (But do love the room / alcohol / limo discounts with the VIP card. One thing I've noticed is a lot of girls (or at least the 2-3 I asked LOL) don't like to do lap dances. They'd rather go upstairs. So I've never taken advantage of the half-off lap dance deal. Seems girls often aren't interested or am I wrong about that?

Pretty much always stay at HK. Had a bad experience at Adelita's where I booked a room for 2 nights (paid upfront). Stayed in the room for 1 night, crossed the border to site-see SD and grab some belongings. When I came back the next night a chica was in my room LOL. There was some sort of miscommunication where they thought I was only staying one night. All of the toiletries I'd left in the room (toothpaste, comb, etc. - luckily just inexpensive stuff like that nothing valuable) were gone. After raising some hell (which was frustrating because they don't have a good grasp of English) I was given a refund for the 2nd night. But yeah very reluctant to stay at Adelita's ever again. Mostly stay at HK and rooms are nicer anyway.

[Goyo61]

Sounds like Sonya. She always wears that little school girl outfit. Stands across from HK on the alley. She is very sweet and enjoy mixing it up a bit between HK girls and her.

Also. If your going for gangbusters. Get a HK girl for $80. Then later in the day get alley girl for $25. Some great memories!

I am going down there later today on the 1st. Hope she it working!

G.


Went to HK Monday night, it was the most dead I had ever seen it as far as the amount of girls available. Got there around 6 pm and left at 8. There wasn't really any super hot girls out to be honest. In fact I ended up banging a chick off the street, she was even hotter than the HK girls that night in my opinion. Very nice long legs in a school girl outfit and she was a pleaser with a no rush attitude. Best $25 I ever spent. Definitely felt better with the money saved as opposed to banging a HK girl. Some nice gems out in the rough if you venture out and seek. I'll probably stay away from HK for at least a couple weeks. Have barely seen some of my favs working this past month. Happy new year fellow mongers!

[ChinaMan360]

Went to HK Monday night, it was the most dead I had ever seen it as far as the amount of girls available. Got there around 6 pm and left at 8. There wasn't really any super hot girls out to be honest. In fact I ended up banging a chick off the street, she was even hotter than the HK girls that night in my opinion. Very nice long legs in a school girl outfit and she was a pleaser with a no rush attitude. Best $25 I ever spent. Definitely felt better with the money saved as opposed to banging a HK girl. Some nice gems out in the rough if you venture out and seek. I'll probably stay away from HK for at least a couple weeks. Have barely seen some of my favs working this past month. Happy new year fellow mongers!Last time I went the SW were way hotter than the girls at HK. I loved the money saved by only spending 23 bucks. Albeit the sex was OK but for that price I couldn't really complain. I might go a few days after NY and will see if HK is dead or not.

[SinfullyKorean]

I went to Tijuana after realizing I wasn't really doing anything. So I drove down to check out the action, and I'm super glad I did.

7:30 pm. Got to HK via their stretch SUV limo and tipped the drive $5. First went to Adelita's and Chicago. Both were complete duds. It really was pathetic. So I walk back to HK. No cover charge.

8:00 - In HK, there were a few cute girls. But none really stood out. I made my way to the back and front twice before I noticed her, dancing on the stripper pole. Another guy was already eyeing her, and another guy walked up and just booked her right then and there. She went to the bathroom to get ready. I followed and asked her for her name and number so I can see her later. Her name was Sowy.

8:30 After Sowy left, I noticed this beautiful chica coming down the stairs. I didn't even give her a chance to get inside. I booked her immediately. Rooms were pretty expensive tonight at $19. Her rate was 100. Standard in HK. When we were in the room, she told me her name was Tesla. I was really surprised because I remembered reading about a Tesla here in the HK forum. I completely agree she's a beautiful girl, not to be missed. She quoted me $400 for all night ($300 more after the short time), I told her I'd think about it.

Tesla is beautiful, but not very passionate. Barely any kissing (just lips touching a couple times). No BBBJ. Just on with cover, she put on lube, and we went CG and mish. She does this kinda annoying thing where she rests her head on her hand while I'm doing her in CG. I don't care, she's still absolutely stunning. I got her number for later. She told me that she only works like one week a month there. I'll try to repeat with her in the future.

9:30 When we got done, I went down to HK again. While waiting, Sowy texted me. We met up in the Executive Miami inside HK. I bought her a couple drinks. I had 3. I also had 2 edibles and was high as a kite. I took her to the hotel (another $19 + 100). Sowy was much more passionate than Tesla. We started with DFK, she sucked on my nipples and went down to give me a CBJ. After the cover was applied, she came back up for some more DFK. I went down on her as well. She was super responsive. I ate both her pussy and ass out. She tasted so clean in both and she seemed to really enjoy DATO. We went at it in CG, K9, lazy dog, mish, and finished in lazy dog while. Then I gave her a nice massage. She was hitting her bong and gave me a few hits.

10:30 We both went down to HK again. I text Tesla again and I'm glad I didn't pay Tesla for TLN as she told me she went back home for the night. I sit around for a few more hours and head back at 2 am. Got a Lincoln towncar ride back to the border and tipped another $5.

I left a very happy man.

[SenorTJ]

7:30 pm. Got to HK via their stretch SUV limo and tipped the drive $5. First went to Adelita's and Chicago. Both were complete duds. It really was pathetic. So I walk back to HK. No cover charge.

Got a Lincoln towncar ride back to the border and tipped another $5.Stop giving the drivers so much money!

Tip them $1.

Otherwise take uber, which is cheaper and less conspicuous and faster since you don't have to walk to / from the Zona shuttle area. The limo and towncar are gross inside compared to any uber.

Save your dollars for what matters-- tipping hot chicas.

[OrganicAlo]

I went to Tijuana after realizing I wasn't really doing anything. So I drove down to check out the action, and I'm super glad I did.

7:30 pm. Got to HK via their stretch SUV limo and tipped the drive $5. First went to Adelita's and Chicago. Both were complete duds. It really was pathetic. So I walk back to HK. No cover charge.

8:00 - In HK, there were a few cute girls. But none really stood out. I made my way to the back and front twice before I noticed her, dancing on the stripper pole. Another guy was already eyeing her, and another guy walked up and just booked her right then and there. She went to the bathroom to get ready. I followed and asked her for her name and number so I can see her later. Her name was Sowy.

8:30 After Sowy left, I noticed this beautiful chica coming down the stairs. I didn't even give her a chance to get inside. I booked her immediately. Rooms were pretty expensive tonight at $19. Her rate was 100. Standard in HK. When we were in the room, she told me her name was Tesla. I was really surprised because I remembered reading about a Tesla here in the HK forum. I completely agree she's a beautiful girl, not to be missed. She quoted me $400 for all night ($300 more after the short time), I told her I'd think about it.

Tesla is beautiful, but not very passionate. Barely any kissing (just lips touching a couple times). No BBBJ. Just on with cover, she put on lube, and we went CG and mish. She does this kinda annoying thing where she rests her head on her hand while I'm doing her in CG. I don't care, she's still absolutely stunning. I got her number for later. She told me that she only works like one week a month there. I'll try to repeat with her in the future.

9:30 When we got done, I went down to HK again. While waiting, Sowy texted me. We met up in the Executive Miami inside HK. I bought her a couple drinks. I had 3. I also had 2 edibles and was high as a kite. I took her to the hotel (another $19 + 100). Sowy was much more passionate than Tesla. We started with DFK, she sucked on my nipples and went down to give me a CBJ. After the cover was applied, she came back up for some more DFK. I went down on her as well. She was super responsive. I ate both her pussy and ass out. She tasted so clean in both and she seemed to really enjoy DATO. We went at it in CG, K9, lazy dog, mish, and finished in lazy dog while. Then I gave her a nice massage. She was hitting her bong and gave me a few hits.

10:30 We both went down to HK again. I text Tesla again and I'm glad I didn't pay Tesla for TLN as she told me she went back home for the night. I sit around for a few more hours and head back at 2 am. Got a Lincoln towncar ride back to the border and tipped another $5.

I left a very happy man.Nice trip report, thanks. Standard rate is 80 in HK BTW, you really shouldn't be paying anymore than that, but hey, not my money.

[SinfullyKorean]

I thought HK was 100, Adelitas 80 and 60 in the other bars. I've never been quoted 80 at HK. But I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks!


Nice trip report, thanks. Standard rate is 80 in HK BTW, you really shouldn't be paying anymore than that, but hey, not my money.

[Dogers69]

Nice trip report, thanks. Standard rate is 80 in HK BTW, you really shouldn't be paying anymore than that, but hey, not my money.This is the kind of gringo Mexicans love. He pays double for the free hk limo than uber costs, pays the new insane 100 rate, twice, once for same quality sex street girls offer, rents 2 rooms in one night at 19 each, and goes home thrilled. In NYC I can walk into Asian massage place, get table shower, massage, and same length quality hk sex for 120. Without traveling to another country so I will never pay 100 for sex. 60 is my limit.

[Captain Solo]

A week before the party all rooms at Cascada and Rizzo de Oro had been booked up. We showed up at 7:30 PM Tuesday. Cascada was hopping with guys and girls heading in a steady stream to the elevator for sex in the room. I had to call on a favor to have a double room for me and wingman.

Ran into a couple regular bros from San Franciso Bay and Sacramento areas. They all complained about the lack of talents for this week. Main reason was most hot girls were taken to the hotel back to back, sometimes gone for the night, not coming back. Did see Tesla picked up for the hotel and Zulma doing 5 or 6 sessions for the night. Other nights she would just sit at the bar pouting, doing nothing all night.

The club was hot, stuffy and packed with guys and girls, standing room only, difficult to walk around; all tables and booths were loaded with drinks, bottles, beer buckets and food. Everyone was in a good mood, dancing, cheering, drinking. 2 girls were doing a lesbian show on the main stage with an albino snake creeping, slithering, tongue flickering on their naked bodies. Most strippers, hot or chunky, had propinas rains with greens piling up on the entire stage. Guys were happy and were tipping generously.

By 10 PM the ratio of guys to girls was up to like 10:1. Damn it was a sausage fest. At midnight, MC Chay and floor managers were on stage, popping a couple bottles, raining confettis to music and loud cheers. Meseros started pouring sparkling cider for everyone in the bar. Everyone was having a good time.

About the same time 3 young Asian guys got into a scuffle with security at the front desk. Looked like there were disputes about paying for the 3 beers and they were forcibly evicted out the door. There were some pushes and shoves, harsh words spoken. A couple security guys and meseros looked fierce, like ready to fight. The 3 guys left 3 new beer bottles on the floor. In the past few months every time I was in HK I have seen guys forcibly evicted in ugly scenes. Guys and security were shouting at, staring down, pushing and shoving each other each other but not yet throwing punches. It's no fun getting roughed up, thrown out and potentially banned from the club. It's wise to follow club rules, remain calm and civilized with HK workers, and bring any grievances to the boss.

I was looking for the beautiful Stephanie all over the club but she did not show. Damn. If you see any dream girl in HK, it's wise to take her to the hotel immediately as she may disappear and never show up again. I walked the 3 crowded floors; not too many attractive girls, only a few hot spinners already sitting with guys. Talked to a couple girls. They all wanted $100 or 1,800 pesos firm. Finally talked to Gabriela de Monterrey near the bar. She looked hot with a pretty face, fine spinner frame, nice, clean, no tats. She agreed to my offer. I told her to wait while I texted my wingman to make sure he and his girl were out of the room.

Typical of Monterrey girls, Gabriela was all business in the room. She sat on the bed, sternly wanted money first. I would have walked but tonight there were not too many alternatives, so I caved. With her clothes off, Gabriela's body was mushy and saggy in places, with pointy boobs, lots of baby damages, a large tat of a rose on her lower back, her novio's name across the back of her neck, and looked like the whole series of the New Testament tattooed on her left arm in fine prints.

She had lots of rules, no kissing, no squeezing boobs, no sucking tits, no sucking, fingering pussy ect. Damn I was disappointed. I was screwing her for a long time, adding lube a couple times. But soon she liked doggie and missionary, hissing, moaning loudly, had a sexier time than I did. I just have to learn how to make girls pay for hot sex instead of the opposite. She will be working in HK next few weeks. I have her tel if any bros want to try tough and dry Monterrey meats hehe.

Went down to the crowded club, drinking, bullshitting with a few new guys from the Bay areas. A few very hot girls showed up. Every time I came back to the club after sessions in hotel, I found much hotter, sweeter girls for whom I should have saved my time, money and ammo. Damn. Natasion looked like an exotic, young and pretty Asian spinner. Got her tel for future hook ups.

Walked the club a few times, wanted to do one more girls, but found no better talents. Allegedly lots of girls were off partying with their BFs and families NYE. Decided to leave by 1 AM. While waiting for the elevator, met a nice, clean, classy, very beautiful civie, Raquel de Acapulco sitting on a couch, texting. She looked tall, lean, light skin, pretty, more like American. She said not working, only visiting a friend in Cascada. What kinds of girls would have friends staying in a notorious hotel? If she's not working this week, may be she will the next. Got her tel; she agreed to meet up when I am in Acapulco. May be I will snag a sexy tour guide for a vacation down South. My dream would be to have a few hot girls at every vacation spot in Mexico. Would make vacations so sexy and fun. Have to start collecting tels from girls in Cancun, Mazatlan, Ixtapa, CDMX, Guadalajra. Cabo etc for vacations' rainy days.

Overall, the lack of girls' availability, extreme crowd, noisy partying, difficulties booking rooms ect. Made the New Year Eve's party less enjoyable to me. But I did have fun bullshitting with new guys and get tels for a couple hot girls, Raquel the civie de Acapulco, so it was it was a win. Looking forward to a nice, sweet, sexy vacation in Acapulco with pretty Raquel.

As predicted, did get pulled over by policia on F Martinez after 2 AM for a New Year shakedown, but avoided that. Will write up in the other thread.

[DramaFree11]

This is the kind of gringo Mexicans love. He pays double for the free hk limo than uber costs, pays the new insane 100 rate, twice, once for same quality sex street girls offer, rents 2 rooms in one night at 19 each, and goes home thrilled. In NYC I can walk into Asian massage place, get table shower, massage, and same length quality hk sex for 120. Without traveling to another country so I will never pay 100 for sex. 60 is my limit.Let's be clear about Street girls, yes some are cute / nice. It is just that good of experience, most of the time especially if you go to there shitty hotels. Most not all the street girls have zero opportunities, were a lot of the Hk girls, can speak soMe English, some have been to college or currently enrolled. Some also have normal jobs. There is a huge difference, I do agree that street girls maybe a better option then Adelitas, partly because there rooms are disgusting. They clam they are remodeling, but I have not went to a room at Adelitas for ever, just not a good experience anymore.

[ChinaMan360]

I thought HK was 100, Adelitas 80 and 60 in the other bars. I've never been quoted 80 at HK. But I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks!Thank god you have us to help you. If you ask the girls they will always quote high. You have to always haggle them down at least 20 bucks or just tell them. HK should be 70-80 and Adelitas is around 60-70. Street girls should be in pesos like 250 pesos which is like 20 ish bucks. Don't pay more than 5 bucks for a taxi ride and don't tip too crazy the free shuttle rides back and forth. Again, it's you money and if you want to be wasteful go ahead. Happy new years.

[OrganicAlo]

I thought HK was 100, Adelitas 80 and 60 in the other bars. I've never been quoted 80 at HK. But I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks!60-80 in adelitas, and 80 in HK. The girls are going to quote higher because they expect you to negotiate, starting at 100 gives them more space to negotiate with instead of outright quoting the standard rate of 80, and of course, there are people who bite for 100. Those same chicas would've more than likely accepted 80 no problem, and the session would likely be the same.

[NegotiateHard]

Happy new year bros. Upon reading these last posts, I still am not seeing anything from HK that makes me think it's worth spending much for? 125+ USD (Everything included) for no DFK, CBJ and shitty attitudes? Just about all of or most of Captain Solo's reports don't make me feel like the money spent matches the service. For the type of service given in HK, the most I am willing to give is about 60 dollars (Everything included) and that is with kissing and CBJ. With no kissing, I probably wouldn't spend at all. Can Dramafree11 please write what kind of service he is getting in HK? He loves it so much but is well traveled and has mongered in so many places. I don't understand why HK is so amazing to him? No BBBJ and 100 dollar quotes for on average 20 minutes is a real stinker. People want to believe 80 USD (before room and tips) is a good deal. It's not. Sorry.

[SinfullyKorean]

This is the kind of gringo Mexicans love. He pays double for the free hk limo than uber costs, pays the new insane 100 rate, twice, once for same quality sex street girls offer, rents 2 rooms in one night at 19 each, and goes home thrilled. In NYC I can walk into Asian massage place, get table shower, massage, and same length quality hk sex for 120. Without traveling to another country so I will never pay 100 for sex. 60 is my limit.Chill man. Most of the massage girls are not the same quality that I chose from HK last night. They were easily a 9's maybe 10. If those girls offered FS in a massage shop in OC / LA, I'd be there all the time. Even AMP's basic charge is usually at least 140-150 (40-50 for shop, 100 for tip). So your NYC price doesn't apply here in SoCal. There's also cheap Chinese AAMP shops you can visit for about 120-140, but those are a crap shoot, too, since you don't know what you get until you open the door. And most of those are duds.

As for the free limo, I tipped that much because I rode solo and that's how much the taxi usually costs me. If there's a better way to ride, why not just be constructive about it instead of "Hey, look at this idiot. He paid twice what we pay and he's still happy. " Is Uber the better option? Does the same US Uber app work across the border?

As for quality, I've rarely seen street girls as attractive as these. That's why I don't even look at the street girls. If you want to get your kicks on in the dumps, then by all means. But I prefer to shop where I know I'll be able to find those 8's-10's. That's why I also walked out of Adelitas and Chicago almost as soon as I walked in, because of lack of pretty girls. I'd prefer not to pay the extra $20. But these girls are taken before they've even had a chance to sit most of the time.

[SinfullyKorean]

60-80 in adelitas, and 80 in HK. The girls are going to quote higher because they expect you to negotiate, starting at 100 gives them more space to negotiate with instead of outright quoting the standard rate of 80, and of course, there are people who bite for 100. Those same chicas would've more than likely accepted 80 no problem, and the session would likely be the same.Thanks, Organic. I've probably already ruined my chances with the ones I already paid $100 to? Do you know if this also applies to the most popular HK girls? I'd imagine that if a girl is super popular, why would she go for $80 when probably within 10-15 min there will be someone else willing to pay $100?

Capt Solo mentioned that when he went, most of the HK girls were firm on $100. He ended up settling for Gabriela who took his offer (prob 80), but was a sad disappointment in both looks and service. Call me crazy, but I'd rather spend the extra $20 is spent for an amazing looking girl. Maybe if the crowd is not so big as it was last night. But if the guys-girls ratio's as bad as it was (10:1), I don't really see how we can get around the higher price quote. You can argue "if we all stay firm on $80, it'll stay $80." But I don't think that works when you have that bad of a ratio.

[DramaFree11]

This is the kind of gringo Mexicans love. He pays double for the free hk limo than uber costs, pays the new insane 100 rate, twice, once for same quality sex street girls offer, rents 2 rooms in one night at 19 each, and goes home thrilled. In NYC I can walk into Asian massage place, get table shower, massage, and same length quality hk sex for 120. Without traveling to another country so I will never pay 100 for sex. 60 is my limit.As far as during the day Uber is the best option. At night HK transportation, is the best option, for safety reasons. 3-5 tip is approximate.

[TacoBull]

60-80 in adelitas, and 80 in HK. The girls are going to quote higher because they expect you to negotiate, starting at 100 gives them more space to negotiate with instead of outright quoting the standard rate of 80, and of course, there are people who bite for 100. Those same chicas would've more than likely accepted 80 no problem, and the session would likely be the same.Say "quieres ir arriba para ochenta dolares?" and they say yes. Every time I ask "cuanto cuesta" they say 100 and I feel bad negotiating down or it kills the vibe. Just say the first sentence and they say yes.

[JH 1001]

I went to Tijuana after realizing I wasn't really doing anything. So I drove down to check out the action, and I'm super glad I did.

7:30 pm. Got to HK via their stretch SUV limo and tipped the drive $5. First went to Adelita's and Chicago. Both were complete duds. It really was pathetic. So I walk back to HK. No cover charge.

8:00 - In HK, there were a few cute girls. But none really stood out. I made my way to the back and front twice before I noticed her, dancing on the stripper pole. Another guy was already eyeing her, and another guy walked up and just booked her right then and there. She went to the bathroom to get ready. I followed and asked her for her name and number so I can see her later. Her name was Sowy.

8:30 After Sowy left, I noticed this beautiful chica coming down the stairs. I didn't even give her a chance to get inside. I booked her immediately. Rooms were pretty expensive tonight at $19. Her rate was 100. Standard in HK. When we were in the room, she told me her name was Tesla. I was really surprised because I remembered reading about a Tesla here in the HK forum. I completely agree she's a beautiful girl, not to be missed. She quoted me $400 for all night ($300 more after the short time), I told her I'd think about it.

Tesla is beautiful, but not very passionate. Barely any kissing (just lips touching a couple times). No BBBJ. Just on with cover, she put on lube, and we went CG and mish. She does this kinda annoying thing where she rests her head on her hand while I'm doing her in CG. I don't care, she's still absolutely stunning. I got her number for later. She told me that she only works like one week a month there. I'll try to repeat with her in the future.

9:30 When we got done, I went down to HK again. While waiting, Sowy texted me. We met up in the Executive Miami inside HK. I bought her a couple drinks. I had 3. I also had 2 edibles and was high as a kite. I took her to the hotel (another $19 + 100). Sowy was much more passionate than Tesla. We started with DFK, she sucked on my nipples and went down to give me a CBJ. After the cover was applied, she came back up for some more DFK. I went down on her as well. She was super responsive. I ate both her pussy and ass out. She tasted so clean in both and she seemed to really enjoy DATO. We went at it in CG, K9, lazy dog, mish, and finished in lazy dog while. Then I gave her a nice massage. She was hitting her bong and gave me a few hits.

10:30 We both went down to HK again. I text Tesla again and I'm glad I didn't pay Tesla for TLN as she told me she went back home for the night. I sit around for a few more hours and head back at 2 am. Got a Lincoln towncar ride back to the border and tipped another $5.

I left a very happy man.Hello,

Trying to figure out if Sowy is a chica I know.

Going to try to describe her, knowing full well I might be describing 75% of the girls at HK on any given night:

Long, dark hair, thick body (esp. Ass & legs), A to be cups or so, face looks (to me) like pornstar Jasmine Black. Probably stands about 5' 4". Has kids in another part of Mexico and only comes to Tijuana for short periods of time.

Sound familiar? The rest of you guys, feel free to chime in. I already know I'm going to get a lot of "you just described every other girl that was at HK on Tues. Night!

Anyway, a year ago or so, I did a threeway with the above described chica (whose name sounded to me like "Sowy") and another girl whose name was Mali or Mari or something like that. I never saw "Sowy" again after that.

Thanks!

[Dcrist0527]

Give Maestro Dobel Diamante a try. I pick it up at the Super Ley in Puerto Penasco for around 550-590 pesos when I vacation there so my guess is prices will be similar in Tijuana unless you go to one of those price gouging shops on Revo. It is a reposado but through their process they somehow made it clear. It is beyond smooth. I'd never heard of it until some local buddies of mine in CDMX introduced me to it. It's all they drink.I'll be sure to try it. Appreciate the referral.

[OrganicAlo]

Thanks, Organic. I've probably already ruined my chances with the ones I already paid $100 to? Do you know if this also applies to the most popular HK girls? I'd imagine that if a girl is super popular, why would she go for $80 when probably within 10-15 min there will be someone else willing to pay $100?

Capt Solo mentioned that when he went, most of the HK girls were firm on $100. He ended up settling for Gabriela who took his offer (prob 80), but was a sad disappointment in both looks and service. Call me crazy, but I'd rather spend the extra $20 is spent for an amazing looking girl. Maybe if the crowd is not so big as it was last night. But if the guys-girls ratio's as bad as it was (10:1), I don't really see how we can get around the higher price quote. You can argue "if we all stay firm on $80, it'll stay $80." But I don't think that works when you have that bad of a ratio.I only go to Hk during the week so it may be different, I've heard the top tier girls are firm on 100, mainly on the weekends, but for the most part the standard rate is 80. I've been with about 30 HK girls now, lots of different flavors, and have never paid more than 80.

[JabberWock]

60-80 in adelitas, and 80 in HK. The girls are going to quote higher because they expect you to negotiate, starting at 100 gives them more space to negotiate with instead of outright quoting the standard rate of 80, and of course, there are people who bite for 100. Those same chicas would've more than likely accepted 80 no problem, and the session would likely be the same.Maybe if everyone stopped chasing the "A" list girls and started using the be list maybe the "A" listers will get the idea.

[Dogers69]

Chill man. Most of the massage girls are not the same quality that I chose from HK last night. They were easily a 9's maybe 10. If those girls offered FS in a massage shop in OC / LA, I'd be there all the time. Even AMP's basic charge is usually at least 140-150 (40-50 for shop, 100 for tip). So your NYC price doesn't apply here in SoCal. There's also cheap Chinese AAMP shops you can visit for about 120-140, but those are a crap shoot, too, since you don't know what you get until you open the door. And most of those are duds.

As for the free limo, I tipped that much because I rode solo and that's how much the taxi usually costs me. If there's a better way to ride, why not just be constructive about it instead of "Hey, look at this idiot. He paid twice what we pay and he's still happy. " Is Uber the better option? Does the same US Uber app work across the border?

As for quality, I've rarely seen street girls as attractive as these. That's why I don't even look at the street girls. If you want to get your kicks on in the dumps, then by all means. But I prefer to shop where I know I'll be able to find those 8's-10's. That's why I also walked out of Adelitas and Chicago almost as soon as I walked in, because of lack of pretty girls. I'd prefer not to pay the extra $20. But these girls are taken before they've even had a chance to sit most of the time.I vent because, I'm experiencing a lot problems in HK, in the limo, in the hotel, because I tip at standard USA rate, which is double what even wealthy Tijuana locals tip. But my tips aren't enough. So I get hassled. The limo, was supposed to be free with the $50 VIP card, but it's not free if the drivers don't want me in their limo anymore and make fun of me for tipping a dollar. Most uber drivers, in the states don't get a tip in most rides. Those are 20,30 dollar rides often. Hk limo is driving 1.5 miles to el chaparral. And should be getting paid by HK, or have a sign that they only get money from tips. The hotel staff, follows me into my room looking for a tip all the time, 2 at a time, because I guess other guys tip everyone they look at. Problem is, these same people don't tip like this in USA. I worked for tips. The wealthier the person the worse the tips. And the girls, suddenly asking for 100, and men fighting each other to grab them first, well those girls will all demand 140 next year as soon as they are told they are allowed to. Guys who show up once a year and pay a lot more than what's considered normal, in Tijuana or USA, and are happy to do so, make the experience worse for the locals. Last 2 nights I went to revolution hotel, I went back to San Diego without going to any of these clubs because the problems chip away at the enjoyment of them.

[SenorTJ]

As for the free limo, I tipped that much because I rode solo and that's how much the taxi usually costs me. If there's a better way to ride, why not just be constructive about it instead of "Hey, look at this idiot. He paid twice what we pay and he's still happy. " Is Uber the better option? Does the same US Uber app work across the border?

But I prefer to shop where I know I'll be able to find those 8's-10's.Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.

BTW, there are no 10's at HK. Several 8's. Maybe an exceptional 9 on occasion. But a 10 means a perfect sexy tight body (no plastic surgery) and gorgeous face and great service (good BBBJ and DFK at a minimum), and I've gotten 2 out of 3 in HK, but not 3 out of 3. 10's are rare in this world. Most of the HK girls don't hit the gym like they should, they cake on the make-up, and their many tattoos distract our eyes from their attractive bodies. Also, the number of centaurs (giant inflated asses) at HK is way worse now than a few years back.

[Captain Solo]

To SinfullyKorean.

It's hard to get discounts for sessions with hot girls on a busy night like NYE with 10:1 Guys: girls ratio. But that night even plain-looking girls insisted on $100 firm and $100 do not guarantee hot, sweet, sexy sessions. I use a little gentle negotiation to gauge new girls' personalities, how sweet, warm, friendly, giving they would be in bed. It does not always work, but the girls who smile and counter with their own offers usually give satisfying sex. Also we need to resist their unreasonable expectations, like $200 sessions, and hold down inflation by getting agreements for reasonable and customary prices and specific services like local guys would do with the girls. Once the new girls get a few rejections, they would adjust their prices and attitudes.

Gabriela looked nice, clean hot in the club, but was typical shrewd and hard Monterrey businesswoman. She managed to hide all her tats and was nice, warm, sweet in the club, but was very serious about money and getting paid once we got into the room. She was clean shaven and put up with a very long session with lots of sighing and moaning. Looked like she had a better time than I did. At the end, she was very relaxed, gave me pictures and her tel, wanted me to refer her to all my horny my friends hehe.

Girls whom I know a while give me much steeper discounts and much better services, including DFK, DATY, BBBJ, BBFS ect with lots of love and lust expressions. Some of those girls are the hottest with lots of fun in the club and the sweetest and sexiest in bed. On NYE my new wingman got an hour of DATY, BBBJ, BBFS with a hot HK girl for $120. He's new in Tijuana and was only starting to negotiate terms with HK girls, getting good deals.

The girls watch guys for looks, manners and interactions in the club like hawks. If you have to have specific girls, they would know how badly you want them and want high prices. But if you have a few alternatives and willing to walk away from high prices and bad attitudes, they will know you are not a pushover and will give you better sessions.

[DramaFree11]

Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.

BTW, there are no 10's at HK. Several 8's. Maybe an exceptional 9 on occasion. But a 10 means a perfect sexy tight body (no plastic surgery) and gorgeous face and great service (good BBBJ and DFK at a minimum), and I've gotten 2 out of 3 in HK, but not 3 out of 3. 10's are rare in this world. Most of the HK girls don't hit the gym like they should, they cake on the make-up, and their many tattoos distract our eyes from their attractive bodies. Also, the number of centaurs (giant inflated asses) at HK is way worse now than a few years back.Agree about there are no 10's at Hk, I have this discussion on the Kiev thread. Guys are claiming they are banging 8's /9's on a regular basis, simply not possible. There are plenty of 7's /8's at Hk.

Slightly disagree on the gym, many so go. Probably not the ones with fat asses.

[Rainman306]

Seems the estimate of a 10:1 Ratio at Hong Kong on a recent night might be a bit high? Doesn't Hong Kong almost always have 50-100 girls working? So that would mean 500-1,000 men in the club. I don't think Hong Kong is physically big enough to handle those numbers.

Yes the club is long and has 3 floors, but the club is not very wide, the 2nd & 3rd floors are partial floors, and their are multiple stages & bars that diminish usable sitting / standing space.

Maybe 5:1 ratio if the HK girls was on the low side. There is no way I can see over 500 bodies being in Hong Kong at one time, including all customers, dances, maseros & managers.

[SinfullyKorean]

Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.

BTW, there are no 10's at HK. Several 8's. Maybe an exceptional 9 on occasion. But a 10 means a perfect sexy tight body (no plastic surgery) and gorgeous face and great service (good BBBJ and DFK at a minimum), and I've gotten 2 out of 3 in HK, but not 3 out of 3. 10's are rare in this world. Most of the HK girls don't hit the gym like they should, they cake on the make-up, and their many tattoos distract our eyes from their attractive bodies. Also, the number of centaurs (giant inflated asses) at HK is way worse now than a few years back.I usually rate looks and service separately. So a 10 may be a stretch. But definitely not an 8 (again, just looks). I'm talking about those girls that you see and they get an instant rise out of you. The ones that everyone's eyes go to when they walk into the room. The beers and weed may have raised their point a bit. But they were definitely 9's in my book. Tesla's service was probably a 5 or 6. Sowy's was a 7.5 for me (no BBBJ, but plenty of DFK).

But seriously appreciate the new info on rides. I went a few times back 5-6 years ago, and the guy that introduced me to Tijuana / HK always took us by taxi. Now I know: grin:


To SinfullyKorean.

It's hard to get discounts for sessions with hot girls on a busy night like NYE with 10:1 Guys: girls ratio. But that night even plain-looking girls insisted on $100 firm and $100 do not guarantee hot, sweet, sexy sessions. I use a little gentle negotiation to gauge new girls' personalities, how sweet, warm, friendly, giving they would be in bed. It does not always work, but the girls who smile and counter with their own offers usually give satisfying sex. Also we need to resist their unreasonable expectations, like $200 sessions, and hold down inflation by getting agreements for reasonable and customary prices and specific services like local guys would do with the girls. Once the new girls get a few rejections, they would adjust their prices and attitudes..I'll try to negotiate to $80 from now on. But I remember girls asking for 100 even 5-6 years ago. So being quoted 100 on NYE was not a surprise to me. I haven't been to Tijuana enough find regulars. But I think I'm going to be addicted to Tijuana after that last trip.


I vent because, I'm experiencing a lot problems in HK, in the limo, in the hotel, because I tip at standard USA rate, which is double what even wealthy Tijuana locals tip. But my tips aren't enough. So I get hassled. The limo, was supposed to be free with the $50 VIP card, but it's not free if the drivers don't want me in their limo anymore and make fun of me for tipping a dollar. Most uber drivers, in the states don't get a tip in most rides. Those are 20,30 dollar rides often. Hk limo is driving 1.5 miles to el chaparral. And should be getting paid by HK, or have a sign that they only get money from tips. The hotel staff, follows me into my room looking for a tip all the time, 2 at a time, because I guess other guys tip everyone they look at. Problem is, these same people don't tip like this in USA. I worked for tips. The wealthier the person the worse the tips. And the girls, suddenly asking for 100, and men fighting each other to grab them first, well those girls will all demand 140 next year as soon as they are told they are allowed to. Guys who show up once a year and pay a lot more than what's considered normal, in Tijuana or USA, and are happy to do so, make the experience worse for the locals. Last 2 nights I went to revolution hotel, I went back to San Diego without going to any of these clubs because the problems chip away at the enjoyment of them.I get it. I feel the same frustration in Thailand. It's happening in LA / OC, too. What used to be 260 suddenly jumped up to 300 in many places. I wouldn't mind a mild $20 jump over the course of 5-10 years. I just avoid those places and stick with my 240/260 places, unless there's a unicorn for 280/300.

As I mentioned before, I went to Tijuana 5-6 years ago with a few friends and the price was 80/100 back then, too. I don't know how realistic it is to keep the prices the same for 10-20 years. But I will try my best to negotiate down to $80 as much as I possibly can. Tips like CaptSolo is what I really appreciate (e. G. Keeping options open). NYE night, I didn't feel like I had many options, as there were so many guys and not many attractive girls. So I had absolutely no qualms about paying 100 that night. But I'll be trying to go more regularly. And hopefully, as my portfolio grows, I'll be able to stick with the $80 and keep inflation down.

[SawZonaNorte]

Yo, what's good. I shall be traveling to Mexico / Tijuana for the first time soon and am going to be checking out Hong Kong. I'm a total newb at this so just wanted to know what the room fee is to go upstairs with the chick? Thanks. If you got any other pointers to offer, it'd be much appreciated. (I read the f*cking forum and get the general gist of it.).Hi,

If I do this right, there will be a link to a lengthy report I made last month about my first-ever trip to HK in Tijuana:

The details are there for you to digest and be ready for:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2231-Hong-Kong-Club-Reports&p=2400900&viewfull=1#post2400900.

[BrotherMouzone]

Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.Must admit to get to Zona Norte from the border I usually still take taxis ($5 + $1 tip) though sometimes I'll even just walk the 20 minutes (from PedEast. Shorter walk from PedWest) during the day since I know the way.

Reason I take taxis is for convenience. I usually have issues with my data plan once I cross the border so am often unable to use Uber because of that? Does anyone have advice for obtaining solid / consistent data plan quality once crossing the border? I have Sprint and part of my Sprint plan coverage is a benefit called "Premium International Experience" that gives me unlimited 4 G LTE roaming data (as well as free text and phone calls) in Mexico and Canada for free. But it seems this "service" doesn't work too well once I cross the border (in a few spots it does but maybe 85-90% of the time it doesn't) so I just say f it and go with the taxi rather than trying to figure out Uber in a foreign country. The only time I used Uber in Tijuana was going to a spot a few miles away for dental work. I had to call the dental office who graciously texted Uber to pick me up and drop me off. The dental office mentioned that it's a common issue for their USA Customers to have data plan issues. So not sure if anyone has tips on more reliable data plan service. Even if I have to pay a little extra for something the few days I'm there? Honestly I'm not too savvy with my data plan stuff so don't know if it's something even as simple as adjusting the settings on my phone to get it working LOL.

[Captain Solo]

It was a rough estimate. I walked around the club. Every place I went I saw at least 10 guys to 1 girl.

Most of the girls were taken to the hotel, there were probably 20 girls left. At least 200 guys packed in the club that night, the 10:1 ratio was about right.

[ProgInOhio]

Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

To see a lady who looks like HK ladies, you are entering into the mid-tier to upper scale ladies. Those rates start at $200. You might get a good attitude and GFE or you might get someone who rushes you out the door. You might have to pay for a room and some ladies don't visit "notels".

From the strip club side of things; for $1, I get to see some titties from a distance; they might even be required to have pasties on them.

$10-$20, I get to buy her an overpriced drink while she tries to get me to go to the "VIP" area for a special LD. If I hesitate, she downs her drink and moves on to the next loser.

$20-$40, I get a LD where I might be able to touch her ass and maybe graze her tits. The song will be clipped to about 2:30. She'll take 10-15 seconds to get undressed and will be off you as soon as the song ends.

$200 and up; I get a more private LD and she might graze the back of her hand against my cock through my pants and the same touching rules as a LD prevails. You also get a goon looking in on you every 30 seconds.

At a relativity safe environment at HK where the activities are legal, for $1, I get to grope the shit out of of a girl.

$10- I get to buy her an overpriced drink but we can make out, I can feel her up and she'll do the same to me. Depending on chemistry, that drink can last for 15-30 minutes. I also know that I can take her upstairs and fuck her if I want to.

$20, I get a LD where everything is available. I might even get a BJ depending on the girl. I also get a full length song.

$100, I get a private room and I get to suck and fuck a beautiful lady.

Maybe where you are, HK is lame and over priced. But for a lot of us, it's fucking Nirvana. It's all perspective.


Happy new year bros. Upon reading these last posts, I still am not seeing anything from HK that makes me think it's worth spending much for? 125+ USD (Everything included) for no DFK, CBJ and shitty attitudes? Just about all of or most of Captain Solo's reports don't make me feel like the money spent matches the service. For the type of service given in HK, the most I am willing to give is about 60 dollars (Everything included) and that is with kissing and CBJ. With no kissing, I probably wouldn't spend at all. Can Dramafree11 please write what kind of service he is getting in HK? He loves it so much but is well traveled and has mongered in so many places. I don't understand why HK is so amazing to him? No BBBJ and 100 dollar quotes for on average 20 minutes is a real stinker. People want to believe 80 USD (before room and tips) is a good deal. It's not. Sorry.

[Nothing24]

Seems the estimate of a 10:1 Ratio at Hong Kong on a recent night might be a bit high? Doesn't Hong Kong almost always have 50-100 girls working? So that would mean 500-1,000 men in the club. I don't think Hong Kong is physically big enough to handle those numbers.

Yes the club is long and has 3 floors, but the club is not very wide, the 2nd & 3rd floors are partial floors, and their are multiple stages & bars that diminish usable sitting / standing space.

Maybe 5:1 ratio if the HK girls was on the low side. There is no way I can see over 500 bodies being in Hong Kong at one time, including all customers, dances, maseros & managers.Bro I went to HK this past Monday. I swear there couldn't have been more than 20-30 girls in the entire place. It was the least amount of girls I had ever seen there. Granted it was in between Christmas and New Years, but still. There was no shortage of guys of course.

[DramaFree11]

Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

To see a lady who looks like HK ladies, you are entering into the mid-tier to upper scale ladies. Those rates start at $200. You might get a good attitude and GFE or you might get someone who rushes you out the door. You might have to pay for a room and some ladies don't visit "notels".

From the strip club side of things; for $1, I get to see some titties from a distance; they might even be required to have pasties on them.Awesome, report, so true. I will never understand how some can complain about HK. The Pros far out weigh the Cons.

[SenorTJ]

So not sure if anyone has tips on more reliable data plan service. I use cricket with a $5 extra for Mexico-Canada service. Works great all around Tijuana. I get uber at pedwest with no issue.

During the day I often walk from pedwest to ZN.

Sometimes take zona shuttle, but tip $1 which is fair. The driver isn't paying for gas or the car.

[Member #4722]

Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

To see a lady who looks like HK ladies, you are entering into the mid-tier to upper scale ladies. Those rates start at $200. You might get a good attitude and GFE or you might get someone who rushes you out the door. You might have to pay for a room and some ladies don't visit "notels".

From the strip club side of things; for $1, I get to see some titties from a distance; they might even be required to have pasties on them.

$10-$20, I get to buy her an overpriced drink while she tries to get me to go to the "VIP" area for a special LD. If I hesitate, she downs her drink and moves on to the next loser.

$20-$40, I get a LD where I might be able to touch her ass and maybe graze her tits. The song will be clipped to about 2:30. She'll take 10-15 seconds to get undressed and will be off you as soon as the song ends.Most of the posters here are regular visitors to Tijuana and gave up on the USA sex scene long ago.

[NegotiateHard]

Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

Maybe where you are, HK is lame and over priced. But for a lot of us, it's fucking Nirvana. It's all perspective.Thank you for sharing that. I agree with you in that sense. To be where you are from, I can imagine many men turn into candidates to be the next Columbine's most popular incel right before he shows up all over the 6 o'clock news! Ohio sounds so much fun to be at. Said the people who shoot up every single day?

[Captain Solo]

This is funny.

We have the same bad deals in strip clubs. Massages joints and escorts in San Diego, Orange County, LOS Angeles, not too far away from Tijuana. We just have to grow a pair of balls, cross the border to Tijuana and have some serious fun with nice, hot girls.

I keep telling local guys to stop risking LE stings, spending big bucks and having bad sessions with old, ugly, diseased women in CA and drive an hour to Tijuana for the sure things. Couple guys who car pool with me never went back to the old, ugly, ornery women in CA hehe.

[Goyo61]

As ProginOhio mentioned. Other parts of the US are just lame in comparison to what you can do at HK and few other bars in Zona Norte. Yes. It's maybe not as great as some of the red light districts in Thailand but it is still Wonderful in comparison to anything in the US.

For a $9 drink a girl lets me touch her just about anywhere as we talk a bit and joke around. Yes some girls are all business and I get that. Once they know your not taking them upstairs the time shared with them can be a bit abrupt. But still. For a few minutes it's Wonderful.

For the $21 bucks getting them in a back room and some will go butt naked. Offer a little tip.

If you have traveled around Mexico at all. It's kind of cool to be able to talk a little to the ladies about different places I have traveled. My Spanish very lame at about 20 words but it's also a great opportunity to learn a little more Spanish. I ask many of them the Spanish word for this or that.

Plus the environment of the bar is just plain great. Good music. You can just sit and just drink a few drinks and the waiters are OK with that. No pressure.

Simply put. We are spoiled to be able to just cross the border. Get a free shuttle to the bar. Hang out in relative safety. And pop back into the US. It's freaking amazing.

I just paid $60 in Singapore for a fuck. It was "straight sex". No touch other parts. You couldn't really see what the girls body was like the way you can at HK as it's just a lineup of girls.

In Kuala Lumpur. It's illegal. So you are taking a bigger risk of picking up a girl at one of the bars.

The more countries I visit. The more I realize how lucky we are to have HK and Zona Norte.

Goyo.


Bro I went to HK this past Monday. I swear there couldn't have been more than 20-30 girls in the entire place. It was the least amount of girls I had ever seen there. Granted it was in between Christmas and New Years, but still. There was no shortage of guys of course.

[Captain Solo]

To SenorTJ.

In HK, strippers who get the biggest tips are usually chunky, fuller in figures and not too pretty. Girls picked up for the hotel are also mostly heavy and homely, not too pretty. In the meantime, some of the hottest spinners to my taste would hang out in the club all night with no takers.

Tastes for beauties are all subjective. We all have our own 10's but they are not 10's to others. I have seen guys deeply in love with some ugly girls in HK it was ridiculous. I did find Stephanie in HK last week as my personal 10. She was tall, medium build, all-natural body, pretty, smiling face, nice natural boobs with tiny pink tits as I could see and her bras, long legs, perfect light skin, no tats, lots of sexy feminine shapes and curves on her body. She skipped out on me before I could take her to the hotel, but outside the bras, her boobs may be slightly droopy, making her a 8 or 9. I came back looking for her the last few weeks.

In the NYE party last Tuesday, I thought Gabriela de Monterrey was an 8, a beautiful spinner with a pretty face. But out if her clothes, she showed lots of tattoos, her boobs were droopy and pointy, her ass sagging, had a long vertical Cesarean scar with lots of ugly wrinkles on her tummy. She looked worse than most street girls. My rating of her went down to a 4. My quick impressions of beauty and grace in bars are usually fucked up. She was very restrictive of her body but enjoyed the hard fucking I was giving her, breathing heavily, sighing, moaning, squeezing, bucking her crotch ect. I should have made the horny girl pay for the session hehe.

Compared to other bars all over the world, HK still has the best ratio of hot girls for my taste. Once you get to know them, lots of HK girls would do DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and lots of other kinky stuffs. There are a few Centaurs in HK, but not too many. One of them got really angry and picked a fight with the young black guy from NYC who spanked her big ass hehe.

[Juan Carter]

I hadn't been to Tijuana in 30 years so I went whole hog with the VIP card and room at Las Cascadas. The hotel honored its Tuesday 80% off with the VIP card so with the $50 card, the hotel cost me $12 which I recovered with the daily free drinks and shuttle to the border. I didn't take the 1/2 off the private dance as I was content with the booth lap dances. I had been warned that Tijuana would be dead over New Years. Most of the clubs were pretty much empty but the HK was active with lots of girls to chose from. Prices quoted me for 1/2 hour were mostly $100 but a few offered the deed for $80.

My problem is that I refuse to date a girl who won't give me BBBJ and I found only two of more than a dozen I asked who promised it. A couple who refused gave me a health lecture. The pretty blonde with asiatic features, Sonque, agreed to it but wanted $120 for a half hour. I went upstairs with Carol, 23, who said she has only been in Tijuana for four days so she was unperturbed that I had asked. She is from Coatsacoalcos, Veracruz but came to Tijuana from Monterrey where she had started in the sex worker trade a few months ago. She is very beautiful with a trim body, natural tits and pert little ass. She was fun to talk to but I think she speaks only enough English to ply the trade. She was more affectionate in the booth than upstairs where the kisses were not as wet, but even the booth she allowed no tongue penetration. She refused to allow DATY, which astounded me. She gave me a pretty decent BBBJ with attention to the jewels but not longer than four or five minutes. She mounted in a vigorous cowgirl with rotary motion included and not nearly as mechanical as I had feared. From there to doggie, at which she was expert, and with her professional orgasm came mine. I don't know if another shot on goal was included in the price, I didn't try and suppose nearly all of the half hour had expired. She didn't attempt more oral and I took that as a sign.

I enjoyed the club ambiance, the soap suds show and eye candy. I suppose some of you guys have established a rapport and get the DFKs, MSOGs and BBBJ that are common in the interior. I do my hobbying mostly in Guadalajara and Mexico City where I routinely find GFE, especially from escorts, at less than half the price and where full hour service is the norm. If I were a Southern Californian I would probably return now and again for an afternoon or an evening but I will travel to Guadalajara or CDMX instead.

[Dogers69]

I use cricket with a $5 extra for Mexico-Canada service. Works great all around Tijuana. I get uber at pedwest with no issue.

During the day I often walk from pedwest to ZN.

Sometimes take zona shuttle, but tip $1 which is fair. The driver isn't paying for gas or the car.If you tip 1 dollar, and go often enough that they know you, eventually you will not be wanted in their limo. They will laugh at you about the one dollar in front of you to each other and ignore your limo request which was what happened to me. Now they get zero dollar from me and I tip the uber driver instead.

[SawZonaNorte]

I would suggest that much / most of the *value* represented at HK is the (usually) plentiful assortment of possibilities a guy has in such an environment.

You could take a dozen of those ladies to your favorite strip club back home and a few of them would be headliners there. Which is something perhaps lost on some of us when made to select just *one* (or four?) during a single trip to HK.

When you go to Baskin Robbins, you only select one or two flavors, but you're glad that all 31 are available at the time.

HK does great at bringing together demand from the north and a safe environment where supply and demand can merge (if they want to).

It really IS comfortable to make a solo trip to HK from the US after dark, and nobody should hesitate for reasons of fear of safety.

[ProgInOhio]

I spent 3 months in Temecula. It took me 2+ months to work up the nerve to cross the border and go to HK. I know absolutely no Spanish. Reports on here and other site helped me plan my first excursion. It was fucking awesome after going to titty bars in the LA area. I went back again before leaving Temecula. Now, any trip out west includes a stop over in San Diego and a border crossing.

I could kick myself for not going earlier in my SoCal visit.


This is funny.

We have the same bad deals in strip clubs. Massages joints and escorts in San Diego, Orange County, LOS Angeles, not too far away from Tijuana. We just have to grow a pair of balls, cross the border to Tijuana and have some serious fun with nice, hot girls.

I keep telling local guys to stop risking LE stings, spending big bucks and having bad sessions with old, ugly, diseased women in CA and drive an hour to Tijuana for the sure things. Couple guys who car pool with me never went back to the old, ugly, ornery women in CA hehe.

[ProgInOhio]

I'm sure if one is a seasoned traveler and knows where the action is, then HK and Zona may seem like less of a deal so I get your point as well. For one example, as soon as I finished, she grabbed the "donation", ran down the hall naked and got her fix. She came back and was inserting a needle before I got my shoes on. Never again.


Thank you for sharing that. I agree with you in that sense. To be where you are from, I can imagine many men turn into candidates to be the next Columbine's most popular incel right before he shows up all over the 6 o'clock news! Ohio sounds so much fun to be at. Said the people who shoot up every single day?

[Goyo61]

May go to Guadalajara in March if any suggestions. Where is CDMX?

I need to salute the girls who do not do BBBJ or other more risk activities. They not only protect themselves they protect us clients. As much as I love wet kisses. There are a lot of activities the girls can do to enhance the experience with out putting themselves or other future partners as risk.

I can relate to the 30 years with no Tijuana. It wasn't till I started working in an industry with many Mexican Americans that I learned enough and felt comfortable going to Tijuana just in the last couple years. Boy have I been missing out on some great adventures.

G.


I hadn't been to Tijuana in 30 years so I went whole hog with the VIP card and room at Las Cascadas. The hotel honored its Tuesday 80% off with the VIP card so with the $50 card, the hotel cost me $12 which I recovered with the daily free drinks and shuttle to the border. I didn't take the 1/2 off the private dance as I was content with the booth lap dances. I had been warned that Tijuana would be dead over New Years. Most of the clubs were pretty much empty but the HK was active with lots of girls to chose from. Prices quoted me for 1/2 hour were mostly $100 but a few offered the deed for $80.

My problem is that I refuse to date a girl who won't give me BBBJ and I found only two of more than a dozen I asked who promised it. A couple who refused gave me a health lecture. The pretty blonde with asiatic features, Sonque, agreed to it but wanted $120 for a half hour. I went upstairs with Carol, 23, who said she has only been in Tijuana for four days so she was unperturbed that I had asked. She is from Coatsacoalcos, Veracruz but came to Tijuana from Monterrey where she had started in the sex worker trade a few months ago. She is very beautiful with a trim body, natural tits and pert little ass. She was fun to talk to but I think she speaks only enough English to ply the trade. She was more affectionate in the booth than upstairs where the kisses were not as wet, but even the booth she allowed no tongue penetration. She refused to allow DATY, which astounded me.

[Rainman306]

Looking to take advantage of some HK coupons or discounts on a trip later this month. Planning to use the following coupons or discounts:

40% off Hotel Rizo de Orzo (Tropical Bar Hotel).

Free Appetizer & 2 beers at HK.

Free breakfast at Azul.

Also was looking for the 1/2 price lap dance coupon but could not find online.

Any experience or suggestion in regards to the above coupons / discounts.

[Goyo61]

My love of HK is obvious but one thing I do wish is that there were less regular girls in there. I would say I recognize 5 girls who have been there consistently over the last couple years. I realize the place needs to support local girls as well so kudo's to do what they do so well. Just a little point that the dream would be if I walked in there and didn't recognize anyone. Also I know there is much comfort and happiness with taking a girl upstairs that you have a little history with. You know she will be wonderful etc. I get it.

Just wanted to share the thought.

Also. If I bring a friend into HK. If a waiter recognizes me I wish they don't make it to obvious. I don't always want the person I am bringing down there to know that HK sees me once a month at times. Or maybe more.

Just a couple points to share to the wonderful club and employees who do such a good job.

Goyo.

[OrganicAlo]

Looking to take advantage of some HK coupons or discounts on a trip later this month. Planning to use the following coupons or discounts:

40% off Hotel Rizo de Orzo (Tropical Bar Hotel).

Free Appetizer & 2 beers at HK.

Free breakfast at Azul.

Also was looking for the 1/2 price lap dance coupon but could not find online.

Any experience or suggestion in regards to the above coupons / discounts.Free appetizer and 2 beers, is 2 free beers and from what I heard it used to be a free lap dance, but the appetizer isn't honored anymore.

The free breakfast is served in HK in the morning I think 9-11 or somn.

The 1/2 lap dance is with the VIP card, but the waiters go around selling them too, I've only ever done one half off lap dance with the VIP card, not really worth it IMO.

[Juan Carter]

May go to Guadalajara in March if any suggestions. Where is CDMX?
CDMX is Mexico City, Ciudad de Mexico. It is no longer the distrito federal or DF. I am not the Guadalajara ISG expert but I do know its ropes. I sent you a private message and am happy to help ISG members with information, especially for CDMX which I know very well. I love CDMX best but Guadalajara is an easier town to hobby in, especially if you need the club scene which is horrible in Mexico City.

[Dogers69]

Free appetizer and 2 beers, is 2 free beers and from what I heard it used to be a free lap dance, but the appetizer isn't honored anymore.

The free breakfast is served in HK in the morning I think 9-11 or somn.

The 1/2 lap dance is with the VIP card, but the waiters go around selling them too, I've only ever done one half off lap dance with the VIP card, not really worth it IMO.Yeah the coupons have decreased compared to few years ago. I think I I remember free lap dance coupon. I once tried to use tropical hotel coupon. And they looked at it like it was Chinese and from a hotel in middle east and wouldn't take it. That was a manager. And like mentioned, the breakfast needs to be in HK. You need to buy a drink or not drink, so it will turn into not so free unless you use your VIP card free drink for a orange juice. Essentially not worth the headache of it all. I have VIP card, so I get lap dance half price coupon when I check in. No girl will be happy to wait 5 to 15 minutes for you to go to desk for the coupon so do it first when you walk in. Out of 30 half price lap dance tickets I used maybe 4. Girls don't like lap dances. I never even get offered from girls to do them anymore. And if it's your idea to ask a girl for it, she will be terrible, you'd get more action by far sitting at bar tipping 1 dollars. Once in blue moon you get a girl who's not to lazy to dance for I'm guessing 10 bucks for 5 minutes, but most are not happy, and let you know by her horrible lap dance by USA strip club standards. Anyway coupons are least of things to worry about in Tijuana, your going to spend a lot on tips and sex so don't worry about coupons to much. Obviously Monday Tuesday bring two free beer coupon.

[SinfullyKorean]

Free appetizer and 2 beers, is 2 free beers and from what I heard it used to be a free lap dance, but the appetizer isn't honored anymore.

The free breakfast is served in HK in the morning I think 9-11 or somn.

The 1/2 lap dance is with the VIP card, but the waiters go around selling them too, I've only ever done one half off lap dance with the VIP card, not really worth it IMO.Is this VIP card only good for one / same day?

[KC Questor]

Where is CDMX?CDMX is Mexico City (Ciudad de Mexico). It is also called "DF" (Districto Federal), the same way Washington is often just called "DC".

[Dogers69]

May go to Guadalajara in March if any suggestions. Where is CDMX?

I need to salute the girls who do not do BBBJ or other more risk activities. They not only protect themselves they protect us clients. As much as I love wet kisses. There are a lot of activities the girls can do to enhance the experience with out putting themselves or other future partners as risk.

I can relate to the 30 years with no Tijuana. It wasn't till I started working in an industry with many Mexican Americans that I learned enough and felt comfortable going to Tijuana just in the last couple years. Boy have I been missing out on some great adventures.

G.Blow jobs have practically never led to hiv. If a girl was worried there's a daily medication they gay men take that almost eliminates any chance of it. Most tinder woman banging strangers in USA don't ask for condom for sex. I would guess its 75% from my dates. And when you use it, half get upset. So when a tijuana sex worker yells when I ask ahead of time about CBJ, to me, she's in the wrong business. Maybe she should get a normal job and just bang two guys on a regular basis that she's comfortable with. I don't need to travel all the way to another country to be told I can't kiss, only CBJ, don't suck or touch the breasts. CMon. The sex worker business is not meant for the paranoid.

[NegotiateHard]

Blow jobs have practically never led to hiv. If a girl was worried there's a daily medication they gay men take that almost eliminates any chance of it. Most tinder woman banging strangers in USA don't ask for condom for sex. I would guess its 75% from my dates. And when you use it, half get upset. So when a tijuana sex worker yells when I ask ahead of time about CBJ, to me, she's in the wrong business. Maybe she should get a normal job and just bang two guys on a regular basis that she's comfortable with. I don't need to travel all the way to another country to be told I can't kiss, only CBJ, don't suck or touch the breasts. CMon. The sex worker business is not meant for the paranoid.
My problem is that I refuse to date a girl who won't give me BBBJ and I found only two of more than a dozen I asked who promised it. A couple who refused gave me a health lecture. The pretty blonde with asiatic features, Sonque, agreed to it but wanted $120 for a half hour. I went upstairs with Carol, 23, who said she has only been in Tijuana for four days so she was unperturbed that I had asked. She is from Coatsacoalcos, Veracruz but came to Tijuana from Monterrey where she had started in the sex worker trade a few months ago. She is very beautiful with a trim body, natural tits and pert little ass. She was fun to talk to but I think she speaks only enough English to ply the trade. She was more affectionate in the booth than upstairs where the kisses were not as wet, but even the booth she allowed no tongue penetration. She refused to allow DATY, which astounded me. She gave me a pretty decent BBBJ with attention to the jewels but not longer than four or five minutes. She mounted in a vigorous cowgirl with rotary motion included and not nearly as mechanical as I had feared. From there to doggie, at which she was expert, and with her professional orgasm came mine. I don't know if another shot on goal was included in the price, I didn't try and suppose nearly all of the half hour had expired. She didn't attempt more oral and I took that as a sign..You guys make all the sense which is why I am always bashing this place. I think it's time to just move somewhere else so I don't have to be this angry local that writes about how much better everything outside of HK is. I acknowledge this. I don't need DATY but BBBJ is a must. BTW Carter, did Sonque agree to DFK? $120 is still a lot though.

[Phordphan]

CDMX is Mexico City (Ciudad de Mexico). It is also called "DF" (Districto Federal), the same way Washington is often just called "DC".They stopped using DF some years ago. A local informed me of that recently after I used it.

[Captain Solo]

Hi Juan.

Too bad I missed out on you for a couple drinks in HK on NYE.

I am so used to quick bomb runs in Tijuana, cross the border and drive to HK in 5 minutes, give the car HK's valet parking, immediately have over a hundred nice, sweet, hot girls to choose from, discount hotel rooms, free beers, fun party with sweet, hot girls in between a few hot sessions. Just like your absence from Tijuana for 30 years, there is a lot of natural resistance to give up all that known convenience, good selection, efficiency, pleasure and warm feelings with hot girls and good friends to spend time and money to fly to new locations, waiting for escorts who may not show or show up late in different looks far worse than their pics.

The primary concern is that over the years, pictures of escorts show older, very rough women with ugly faces, lumpy bodies, bad skin and lots of tattoos. I would not even fuck them for free left alone wasting time and spending money on them. I floated the pics of a few hot girls working for high-class escort services in Monterrey and CDMX with 5,000-6000 peso sessions. The photography looked beautiful but highly touched up. The girls would most likely look far worse in real life and may not even be available. A couple old timers in Mexico concluded Tijuana has the hottest girls with the best availability, convenience and lowest costs.

I was planning for a trip around Mexico. Would love to meet up with you to sample the essence of real life and the sex scenes in CDMX and Guadalajara. I think Seeking Arrangement would yield many hot girls available for casual dating and sex. SA is kind of expensive. Are there better dating sites for Mexico? Is TINDER good for quick hook ups on the road? Any suggestions along this line?

I appreciate your offer to help.

[HealthFirst]

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Blow jobs have practically never led to hiv. If a girl was worried there's a daily medication they gay men take that almost eliminates any chance of it. Most tinder woman banging strangers in USA don't ask for condom for sex. I would guess its 75% from my dates. And when you use it, half get upset. So when a tijuana sex worker yells when I ask ahead of time about CBJ, to me, she's in the wrong business. Maybe she should get a normal job and just bang two guys on a regular basis that she's comfortable with. I don't need to travel all the way to another country to be told I can't kiss, only CBJ, don't suck or touch the breasts. CMon. The sex worker business is not meant for the paranoid.

[Phordphan]

🤦8205;9794;65039;.Rats. I can't find my Little Orphan Annie Decoder Pin. Now I'll never know the contents of the secret message!!

[ScottHall]

I vent because, I'm experiencing a lot problems in HK, in the limo, in the hotel, because I tip at standard USA rate, which is double what even wealthy Tijuana locals tip. But my tips aren't enough. So I get hassled. The limo, was supposed to be free with the $50 VIP card, but it's not free if the drivers don't want me in their limo anymore and make fun of me for tipping a dollar. Most uber drivers, in the states don't get a tip in most rides. Those are 20,30 dollar rides often. Hk limo is driving 1.5 miles to el chaparral. And should be getting paid by HK, or have a sign that they only get money from tips. The hotel staff, follows me into my room looking for a tip all the time, 2 at a time, because I guess other guys tip everyone they look at. Problem is, these same people don't tip like this in USA. I worked for tips. The wealthier the person the worse the tips. And the girls, suddenly asking for 100, and men fighting each other to grab them first, well those girls will all demand 140 next year as soon as they are told they are allowed to. Guys who show up once a year and pay a lot more than what's considered normal, in Tijuana or USA, and are happy to do so, make the experience worse for the locals. Last 2 nights I went to revolution hotel, I went back to San Diego without going to any of these clubs because the problems chip away at the enjoyment of them.You're always thinking small time. If all the "idiot gringos" with money went away then there wouldn't be as many girls coming here. If the economy in the zona is healthy then hot girls from all over Mexico will continue to come work at the bars and agency's. More hot girls from all over Mexico is better for everybody. If the zona was filled with only cheapo grinders like you then places Chicago would be ghost towns again and there would be less to do. And eventually the zona would fade into mediocrity. You would prefer that HK be a one story club with average looking girls just because you want to pay cheaper prices for everything? If a 2 dollar limo ride or 20 dollars bothers you from having a good time then you're probably in the wrong hobby. Everyone complains about how terrible everything is but yet you keep crossing into another country because you know you can't find anything better at home.

[KC Questor]

They stopped using DF some years ago. A local informed me of that recently after I used it.Yes, it was officially changed in 2016 (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/760075/from-df-to-cdmx-mexico-city-changes-name-status), but there are still old reports out there and some of us old guys still say it.

[Goyo61]

The risks are still a little worry-some on my side. Will stick to condom unless there are some indications of less risk with the person. See the following link. It's not AID's I worry about as much as the other STD's.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm



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[ScatManDoo]

The risks are still a little worry-some on my side. Will stick to condom unless there are some indications of less risk with the person. See the following link. It's not AID's I worry about as much as the other STD's.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htmThe linked article, near it's conclusion, has a section titled "What Can You Do to Prevent STD Transmission During Oral Sex?

And in that final section, the following is written:

"You can lower your chances of giving or getting STDs during oral sex by using a condom, dental dam or other barrier method each and every time you have oral sex.

For oral sex on the penis:

Cover the penis with a non-lubricated latex condom.

Use plastic (polyurethane) condoms if you or your partner is allergic to latex.

For oral sex on the vagina or anus:

Use a dental dam.

Cut open a condom to make a square, and put it between the mouth and the partner's vagina or anus.

The only way to avoid STDs is to not have vaginal, anal, or oral sex.

If you are sexually active, you can do the following things to lower your chances of getting an STD:

Being in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who is not infected with an STD (e. G. , a partner who has been tested and has negative STD test results).

Using latex condoms the right way every time you have sex. "

This article does not cover my method of helping to prevent the transmission of STDs.

Very soon after I receive a BBBJ or engage in BBFS relations with a chica I grab my custom eye dropper dispenser.

It is filled with a solution of 50% purified water and 50% Hydrogenperoxide and I spray the solution up my uthrea (and sometimes spray it all over my genital area.

For six years I've had the most unsafe sexual practices with BBBJ & BBFS of Tijuana chicas that I know of. I get regularly checked. And I've contacted no STDs so far.

I'm beginning to wonder if these diseases will ever catch me.

[Captain Solo]

To Sinful Korean.

I could not find HK's official terms or conditions for the use of the VIP cards and various coupons. HK is too lazy to write them up.

However, it is generally accepted that you can claim your VIP benefits every 12 hours, starting 8 PM. I got free orange juice for breakfast with VIP card after 8 AM the next morning.

[KC Questor]

You're always thinking small time. If all the "idiot gringos" with money went away then there wouldn't be as many girls coming here. If the economy in the zona is healthy then hot girls from all over Mexico will continue to come work at the bars and agency's. More hot girls from all over Mexico is better for everybody. If the zona was filled with only cheapo grinders like you then places Chicago would be ghost towns again and there would be less to do. And eventually the zona would fade into mediocrity. You would prefer that HK be a one story club with average looking girls just because you want to pay cheaper prices for everything? If a 2 dollar limo ride or 20 dollars bothers you from having a good time then you're probably in the wrong hobby. Everyone complains about how terrible everything is but yet you keep crossing into another country because you know you can't find anything better at home.100% agree. Who cares if I pay more than the locals? You know what you get if everyone pays the local price? You get places that are no fun. Go to any town that tourists don't visit and what kind of hobby scene is there? None. Yeah, fine, the limo is supposed to be free. And the guys make fun of you and refuse to drive you because you only tip $1. That doesn't matter. Pay the guys $3 or ride with a bunch of guys who each tip $1-2 and the driver will be happy. And what does it cost you? Less than the price of a beer. Big fucking deal. Boohoo, I have to tip the robe guy a dollar and the room cleaners a dollar and the meseros a dollar.

You chose an expensive hobby. If you choose to be cheap, you are the one making it bad, not the guys who come in a few times per year and spend their money.

[DramaFree11]

100% agree. Who cares if I pay more than the locals? You know what you get if everyone pays the local price? You get places that are no fun. Go to any town that tourists don't visit and what kind of hobby scene is there? None. Yeah, fine, the limo is supposed to be free. And the guys make fun of you and refuse to drive you because you only tip $1. That doesn't matter. Pay the guys $3 or ride with a bunch of guys who each tip $1-2 and the driver will be happy. And what does it cost you? Less than the price of a beer. Big fucking deal. Boohoo, I have to tip the robe guy a dollar and the room cleaners a dollar and the meseros a dollar.

You chose an expensive hobby. If you choose to be cheap, you are the one making it bad, not the guys who come in a few times per year and spend their money.So true, also makes no sense to me. There guys on other pages that claim the same. Of course foreign guy pay more, in all destinations. I would bet a lot of money, that the guys that are complaining about bad services, have a very small budgets, and high or unrealistic expectations, so if something goes wrong they do not have the funds for another session. Go to Vegas with $200 and see how much fun you will have. If I have a bad experience, I just move on and try and learn from my mistakes.

Since I have worked on building relationships in Tijuana my experience has been so much better. My advice stay away from the waiters, rent a room for the night, and take girls to Azul.

Tip for god sake, put yourself in there shoes. Does not need to be big tip, but at least something.

[Rainman306]

Looking to take advantage of the Hong Kong Free breakfast offered Tuesday & Wednesday mornings. Is the breakfast served inside Hong Kong itself or at Restaurante Azul? Is it a buffet style offering or just ordering from the menu?

[Dogers69]

The linked article, near it's conclusion, has a section titled "What Can You Do to Prevent STD Transmission During Oral Sex?

And in that final section, the following is written:

"You can lower your chances of giving or getting STDs during oral sex by using a condom, dental dam or other barrier method each and every time you have oral sex.

For oral sex on the penis:

Cover the penis with a non-lubricated latex condom.

Use plastic (polyurethane) condoms if you or your partner is allergic to latex.

For oral sex on the vagina or anus:

Use a dental dam..It's not unusual to get away with rolling the dice. Statistically, for normal sex, if the girl has HIV, I think its 1 in 700 times you bang her that you would get it. The problem is if you get it, the medication is not simple, easy stuff it has side effects and needs to be taken forever.

[Member #4722]

The perfect solution for me is to just avoid HK altogether. Sometimes I stop in for a couple beers but haven't taken girl to Arriba in well over a year. Better value and better service with escorts or the second-tier bars.

[HealthFirst]

Dogers69,

Your STD / STI information is outdated, science and knowledge have advanced. BBBJ can result in Cold Sores (HSV1, HSV2), or warts HPV, of course certain other curable STIs. In she allows to BBBJ some random man, how can you be so certain she didn't suck a random asymptomatic STI carrier (Herpes Shedding. HSV1). By the way herpes and warts are permanent, even with pills / treatment / surgery.

[ChinaMan360]

100% agree. Who cares if I pay more than the locals? You know what you get if everyone pays the local price? You get places that are no fun. Go to any town that tourists don't visit and what kind of hobby scene is there? None. Yeah, fine, the limo is supposed to be free. And the guys make fun of you and refuse to drive you because you only tip $1. That doesn't matter. Pay the guys $3 or ride with a bunch of guys who each tip $1-2 and the driver will be happy. And what does it cost you? Less than the price of a beer. Big fucking deal. Boohoo, I have to tip the robe guy a dollar and the room cleaners a dollar and the meseros a dollar.

You chose an expensive hobby. If you choose to be cheap, you are the one making it bad, not the guys who come in a few times per year and spend their money.I don't think most people on this thread really are complaining about tipping the $1 to the free limo ride. I still give the limo guy 3 dollars because it beats the 5 $ taxi cab ride, that recently I've had Mexicans try to scam me out of $10 for a ride. Now, I just walk to zona norte and take a limo back. 10 -12 $ goes down to 3 $. Now I have cash for two beers at Adelitas and some tip money. I'm a happy man. Very few on this thread are truly Penney pinchers. I think.

I don't care if some guy who only visits Hong Kong once a year and decides to not give a shit about money give like 30 dollars in tips and pays $120 for Arriba. When your on vacation it's best to not worry about money so much to where it affects your experience. Plus, why should I care how you spend your money. Even if it is borderline stupid.

But us who do it regularly it naturally comes to me to try to be economical -- Maybe it's just a habit of mine since I used to be poor. Some newbies are way too polite and give a tip when simply asked for it and the ladies chuckle. I'll tip the guy who cleans the room $1, the adelita bartender because I know him, and chicas that are dancing. I rarely tip the robe guy or bathroom guy, I just don't see the point. I get it that $100 for a lay is still cheaper than in the states (not really if you know where to look). But when in another place I play by their rules. My success rate for quoting $80 is pretty much 100%. But I know I can still have a pretty good time with a $60 arriba at Adelitas and 340 peso ($22) lay with a SW. If I can help a newbie have a good time for cheaper and it keeps the market from jumping up, which it did for a little bit during the summer, that's a win for me too. If after my sexcapades and I have some money from my budget left over I'm happy that I can reuse it for my next trip. If any monger feels like spending an extra 40 bucks on their trip are perfectly free to use their money that way. But, if that monger is a frequent visitor they could be saving some useful money down the road by being conscientious of their spending.

[Jackie888]

It's not unusual to get away with rolling the dice. Statistically, for normal sex, if the girl has HIV, I think its 1 in 700 times you bang her that you would get it. The problem is if you get it, the medication is not simple, easy stuff it has side effects and needs to be taken forever.Yes and no. As my doctor explained it to me, my chances of getting HIV was far higher than 1 in 700 because my chica was on her period at the time we banged and I was covered in blood thereafter. PEP treatment cost was about $1,500.

[Jackie888]

LOL who the fuck cares what the limo guys or meseros or the clean up boy thinks? Just give them $1 each for their service and waive them off. If they don't like it, fuck them. I'm not a fucking money tree. One stupid fat older motherfucker limo driver that drives out of the old border crossing used to sarcastically whine about his $1 tip. It used to bother me. Nowadays I give him his $1 and walk away while ignoring the ass-wipe in the middle of his whine. I don't give a fuck. Same with the clean up boy. I give $1 to one clean up boy. If another one shows up and ask for a tip, I ignore him. I don't give a fuck. I'm not in Tijuana to suck dicks and impress the guys. I am there for the ladies.

BTW, I've only trouble with 1 limo driver. I get along with all the other ones.

[Dogers69]

Dogers69,

Your STD / STI information is outdated, science and knowledge have advanced. BBBJ can result in Cold Sores (HSV1, HSV2), or warts HPV, of course certain other curable STIs. In she allows to BBBJ some random man, how can you be so certain she didn't suck a random asymptomatic STI carrier (Herpes Shedding. HSV1). By the way herpes and warts are permanent, even with pills / treatment / surgery.I understand oral sex spreads herpes but I'm under the assumption most woman must have herpes by now. Condoms for sex do little to stop herpes. If a girl bangs 300 men a year plus all her boyfriends, that's easily 80 times a year banging someone with herpes. Either she's going to get herpes or have some inherent immunity toward it, or be lucky. If she does this job 5, 6 years forget it. I guess I look at woman in the states, all the sex they have with strangers, they don't worry about herpes. I've had female friends banging 3 guys a week on tinder. Two a day. So I'm sure Mexico is not different. Most of these girls had a lot of sex before they started getting g paid for it. Again, escorts are all over NYC, these are often American girls, in college, rich parents, girls in their 20's. These girls are all banging men on the side for money, and they aren't using condoms for a blow job. I do see you created a account just for healthy sex education. I guess there's nothing wrong with that, but if no other people in the world use condoms for oral sex it's hard to make the argument just zona norte should be using it.

[ScatManDoo]

I don't give a fuck. Same with the clean up boy. I give $1 to one clean up boy. If another one shows up and ask for a tip, I ignore him.I don't ignore the second cum-boy with outstretched palm.

After learning how to negotiate with chicas in Spanish, I then worked on the gesture of pointing down the hallway and saying "Propina por otra talchero".

[Torpedo583]

I was in Tijuana a few years ago and was impressed by the cleanliness and updated amenities of the Caesars Hotel. It's a little way from all the fun (or at least it was then) but looked like a safe place to stay without getting rolled. Anybody have any experience with this place? Will they let you take ladies up to your room?

[LivingFossil]

Dogers69,

Your STD / STI information is outdated, science and knowledge have advanced. BBBJ can result in Cold Sores (HSV1, HSV2), or warts HPV, of course certain other curable STIs. In she allows to BBBJ some random man, how can you be so certain she didn't suck a random asymptomatic STI carrier (Herpes Shedding. HSV1). By the way herpes and warts are permanent, even with pills / treatment / surgery.I've always had covered BJ except when the girls mouth wash before. If the girls mouth wash and shower before is a BBBJ any less dangerous?

I don't want to sacrifice of lifetime of disease for a moment of pleasure.

[Dogers69]

I've always had covered BJ except when the girls mouth wash before. If the girls mouth wash and shower before is a BBBJ any less dangerous?

I don't want to sacrifice of lifetime of disease for a moment of pleasure.Shower? Haha ask a girl to shower and that 10 minutes comes off your 14 minutes of sex in many cases. The street girls never shower. The bar girls maybe half the time. If a girls drinking beer in front of you that's as good as mouth wash. At any rate if your that worried about all that stick to tinder.

[HealthFirst]

Fact: #1. Researchers found consistent condom users have about a 30% lower risk of contracting genital herpes than those who never used condoms. #2. Mouth wash and showers don't help.

Just use condoms for BJs, not worth dealing with an permanent infections.

Opinion: Condoms don't protect your testes, pubic mound, inner thighs. A method I read on the internet is, place condom, place unused boxer briefs on and place condomed penis through boxers brief's fly-hole. This would protect you against skin-to-skin contact STD diseases, like herpes and warts. It won't protect against vaginal fluid STD transmission. To remove, careful extend fly hole over condom, discard in trash. Remove condom. Extreme step: Spray Lysol or 70% isopropyl alcohol on your genitals area / thighs (will burn immensely). Pain is temporary, STDs are for life. Then shower and wash your genitals area with hot water and soap for 5 minutes non-stop.

Protip: If a girl has yellow eyes, it means she has jaundice (damaged liver), caused from alcoholism or Hepatitis. Avoid those women.

Https://www.webmd.com/genital-herpes/news/20090713/condoms-help-cut-risk-of-genital-herpes

https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm


I've always had covered BJ except when the girls mouth wash before. If the girls mouth wash and shower before is a BBBJ any less dangerous?

I don't want to sacrifice of lifetime of disease for a moment of pleasure.

[KC Questor]

I was in Tijuana a few years ago and was impressed by the cleanliness and updated amenities of the Caesars Hotel. It's a little way from all the fun (or at least it was then) but looked like a safe place to stay without getting rolled. Anybody have any experience with this place? Will they let you take ladies up to your room?They are chica friendly. The lobby is pretty open and the front door is right on Revo, so it's not super discreet. If you are bringing in obvious street girls or slutty hoes, everyone will see. But if you don't give a shit about disapproving looks from customers of the restaurant, then who cares?

I'll be staying there for my next trip -- at least the weekend nights. During the week I stay in the zona.

[Dogers69]

Fact: #1. Researchers found consistent condom users have about a 30% lower risk of contracting genital herpes than those who never used condoms. #2. Mouth wash and showers don't help.

Just use condoms for BJs, not worth dealing with an permanent infections.

Opinion: Condoms don't protect your testes, pubic mound, inner thighs. A method I read on the internet is, place condom, place unused boxer briefs on and place condomed penis through boxers brief's fly-hole. This would protect you against skin-to-skin contact STD diseases, like herpes and warts. It won't protect against vaginal fluid STD transmission. To remove, careful extend fly hole over condom, discard in trash. Remove condom. Extreme step: Spray Lysol or 70% isopropyl alcohol on your genitals area / thighs (will burn immensely). Pain is temporary, STDs are for life. Then shower and wash your genitals area with hot water and soap for 5 minutes non-stop.LOL everyday 200 million girls will give a blow job in this world. The only ones who use a condom for it are working girls. And the only guys who will allow it are guys who are paying money. If your going to wear underwear while having sex, why not just pay a girls husband to bang his wife in front of you. So you don't have to touch anything or anyone in the room.

Every time I get HIV test I ask why nobody else is ever here getting tested. They always give me the same answer. Most people hardly every get tested. So the average person sure isn't worried about herpes do you think dereck Jeter and arod were worried about herpes while they were banging new woman every night? Does Leonardo DiCaprio worry about heroes while he bangs 19 year old models? Go on tinder, at least in San Diego, almost all the chicks are looking for sex more than anything else. And they are all banging the same tall handsome guy. They say 90% of the woman are banging the same 10% of guys. Cause looks are even more important for woman than men. These girls don't care what diseases the stud guys have who get pussy thrown at them all day long.

[Goyo61]

There was a chica in San Juan Costa Rica that gave me a BJ with out a condom and I forgot how good it did feel!! But I need to keep my guard up as she just did it and I was thinking I should have her put a condom on but wasn't fast enough thinking.

In other words. Need to not make bad decisions for a few minutes of pleasure that affect me the rest of my life!


I understand oral sex spreads herpes but I'm under the assumption most woman must have herpes by now. Condoms for sex do little to stop herpes. If a girl bangs 300 men a year plus all her boyfriends, that's easily 80 times a year banging someone with herpes. Either she's going to get herpes or have some inherent immunity toward it, or be lucky. If she does this job 5, 6 years forget it. I guess I look at woman in the states, all the sex they have with strangers, they don't worry about herpes. I've had female friends banging 3 guys a week on tinder. Two a day. So I'm sure Mexico is not different. Most of these girls had a lot of sex before they started getting g paid for it. Again, escorts are all over NYC, these are often American girls, in college, rich parents, girls in their 20's. These girls are all banging men on the side for money, and they aren't using condoms for a blow job. I do see you created a account just for healthy sex education. I guess there's nothing wrong with that, but if no other people in the world use condoms for oral sex it's hard to make the argument just zona norte should be using it.

[Goyo61]

Great points made and often overlooked.

I was in Oaxaca Mexico a couple years ago and through some google searching found the street where the hookers hang out. She was much cheaper than HK girls but what was interesting is she took a napkin, poked a hole through it and put it over my dick. Having never seen a girl do this before I figured out it probably had to do with STD's and was happy she was doing it. But. There was no shower in the room. Just some handy wipes to wipe off after. And it was just a "fuck" literally. She didn't take off all her clothes. You couldn't play with her tits etc.

It was my first time picking up a "street girl" or Perideta (SP? Not a great experience but was fun and a new experience.



Fact: #1. Researchers found consistent condom users have about a 30% lower risk of contracting genital herpes than those who never used condoms. #2. Mouth wash and showers don't help.

Just use condoms for BJs, not worth dealing with an permanent infections.

Opinion: Condoms don't protect your testes, pubic mound, inner thighs. A method I read on the internet is, place condom, place unused boxer briefs on and place condomed penis through boxers brief's fly-hole. This would protect you against skin-to-skin contact STD diseases, like herpes and warts. It won't protect against vaginal fluid STD transmission. To remove, careful extend fly hole over condom, discard in trash. Remove condom. Extreme step: Spray Lysol or 70% isopropyl alcohol on your genitals area / thighs (will burn immensely). Pain is temporary, STDs are for life. Then shower and wash your genitals area with hot water and soap for 5 minutes non-stop.

[Goyo61]

To each their own but I have traveled to too many countries that don't have a wonderful club like HK. Or private taxi's to haul my ass etc. So giving an extra buck or two to support the "team" that makes this experience dam nice is a small effort on my side and helps them do what they do. In part I feel if you don't support those who are trying to earn a living the "legal way". Regular job at HK or wherever working for tips. They will be forced to do stuff like work with the police to tip them off or learn to hate the gringo's. Which isn't good. How can I not support this place when I go back to the "good old" USA which is not good and just plain sucks in terms of mongering.


LOL who the fuck cares what the limo guys or meseros or the clean up boy thinks? Just give them $1 each for their service and waive them off. If they don't like it, fuck them. I'm not a fucking money tree. One stupid fat older motherfucker limo driver that drives out of the old border crossing used to sarcastically whine about his $1 tip. It used to bother me. Nowadays I give him his $1 and walk away while ignoring the ass-wipe in the middle of his whine. I don't give a fuck. Same with the clean up boy. I give $1 to one clean up boy. If another one shows up and ask for a tip, I ignore him. I don't give a fuck. I'm not in Tijuana to suck dicks and impress the guys. I am there for the ladies.

BTW, I've only trouble with 1 limo driver. I get along with all the other ones.

[TjDiego]

I have been doing working girls since 2002 and never get condom blowjobs. I don't have intercourse with the girls anymore since I find condom sex boring and its riskier. I have never caught anything from a BBBJ. I've had BBBJ with escorts and I've had BBBJ from street walkers that have probably blown all of Brazil and mexico and can say with certainty that I haven't caught anything. Intercourse with a condom is more dangerous IMHO. A lot of the genital area is exposed even with a condom. The best way to be STDs free and still have fun is no intercourse at all and just do BBBJ.

[SenorTJ]

Hear hear!

BBBJ is not high risk like bathouse gay sex. Saliva kills some stuff. Listerine kills some stuff.

Don't ever cross the road because you might get hit by a car!


LOL everyday 200 million girls will give a blow job in this world. The only ones who use a condom for it are working girls. And the only guys who will allow it are guys who are paying money. If your going to wear underwear while having sex, why not just pay a girls husband to bang his wife in front of you. So you don't have to touch anything or anyone in the room.

[Captain Solo]

Sat night 4 of us in the carpool got to HK by 7 PM. The night was dry and cold, about 50 F. HK was crowded with lots of hot new girls. I was surprised by the good talents right after the NY weekend.

Most tables and seats were taken by guys with girls drinking fichas. We got a table on the balcony overlooking the main stage, drinking, watching the show, while the bros texted and waited for their favorite girls to show. A steady procession of hot girls kept walking through the aisle showing their assets. I recognized quite a few of my hottest favorites, Cesia, Gracia, Sasha, Krystal. We ordered steak dinners with Azul's 2-4-1 coupon. The bros were big eaters, quickly devoured the steaks. I ordered a ribeye grilled to medium, turned out juicy and tasty. I was able to cut through the steak with a plastic knife so the meat was tender. Azul has made big improvements in grilling steaks.

Ran into a few old timers partying hard, having funs with their girls. An old friend came by and sat with us, informing us of girls and hotel situations. He had been staying in Cascada all week to make up for lost time. He said all Cascada's rooms were booked; he was lucky to get one for the night. Considering one of the bros needed a long session to pop, I suggested we get a double and timeshare. Having your own room prevents the annoying knocks at the 30 min intervals and high room prices for multiple sessions. All agreed. I pulled some strings in Cascada, was lucky to get a double, costing $100 for Thu, Fri and Sat, but $80 with VIP discount. Timeshare a room on a busy night was tight time wise and needed good coordination.

A new bro hooked up with his girl and took her upstairs for a long session, came down, then took her and her friend up to the room again for a smoke. Meanwhile I went looking for the second bro, found his favorite girls, petite Cesia, one of the cutest girls in HK, hanging out at the railing but could not find him. She did not know where he went. I asked her to go to the hotel but she declined, stating loyalty to my bro hehe.

Talked to a couple girls, all wanted $100, one wanted $200 firm. Damn. Quite a few of my regulars were in the club. Sasha was sitting with a few guys, then stripped on the South stage. Her tall, lithe, beautiful, tats-free, unblemished body with her pretty face and gentle, classy personality always give me a big boner, but I prefer to hunt for the new ultimate experiences, so continued pursuing new girls. Found Arianna de Sinaloa, tall, fit, athletic, pretty face, beautiful, perfect body with light skin, no tats, a perfect female specimen to my taste, dancing on the South bar. Gave her a propina to check her assets. Her boobs were natural, full, perky with tiny pink nips, just what I liked. Pulled her down for the business proposal. She looked tall, healthy, athletic. She double confirmed that I had a room. Apparently Cascada's ST rooms have been overbookded. Girls don't want to have to wait around for rooms to open up. She agreed to my terms; we walked out. A few guys standing near the stage were cheering with their thumbs up. Yep. I snagged one of the hottest girls in the club. You snooze, you lose!

The room had been cleaned and made up, sheets and bed cover nice and neat. Arianna took off her clothes waiting for me in bed, tall, lithe, beautiful, about 5'10 without heels. She wanted money first and I gladly gave it to her. I really fell for her firm, fit, clean, healthy, tight and toned, all natural, feminine body. She would not kiss but loved to have her clean-shaven, nice, neat, tight coochie eaten. I was kissing, licking her fabulous globes, sucking on her tiny tits, rubbing her clit and her G spot. She was purring, hissing with pleasure. She liked doggie. Her coochie was tight and snug. We had to add lubes a couple times. Arianna was beautiful, nice, clean, gentle, classy. Got her tel and would repeat.

Another bro was waiting in front of HK for his favorite girl for a prearranged long session, but botched the appointment due to missing phone signals. He went inside to warm up just when she showed up waiting for him in the cold night. She was furious, texting him never to text her again, wanting face time with him on the phone.

Had a fun, sexy night. Will try to snag tall, athletic, beautiful Arianna again this Tuesday.

[SamWise1]

Captain,

You break your own rule by paying first? - last time everyone I went upstairs asking for payment first. Is this getting more norm now? I only break this rule when I see no way around it and girl is hot. But there is risk of shitty service ones you pay. I also tried paying half first or putting money on table. But it's getting hard every visit.


Sat night 4 of us in the carpool got to HK by 7 PM. The night was dry and cold, about 50 F. HK was crowded with lots of hot new girls. I was surprised by the good talents right after the NY weekend.

Most tables and seats were taken by guys with girls drinking fichas. We got a table on the balcony overlooking the main stage, drinking, watching the show, while the bros texted and waited for their favorite girls to show. A steady procession of hot girls kept walking through the aisle showing their assets. I recognized quite a few of my hottest favorites, Cesia, Gracia, Sasha, Krystal. We ordered steak dinners with Azul's 2-4-1 coupon. The bros were big eaters, quickly devoured the steaks. I ordered a ribeye grilled to medium, turned out juicy and tasty. I was able to cut through the steak with a plastic knife so the meat was tender. Azul has made big improvements in grilling steaks.

Ran into a few old timers partying hard, having funs with their girls. An old friend came by and sat with us, informing us of girls and hotel situations. He had been staying in Cascada all week to make up for lost time. He said all Cascada's rooms were booked; he was lucky to get one for the night. Considering one of the bros needed a long session to pop, I suggested we get a double and timeshare. Having your own room prevents the annoying knocks at the 30 min intervals and high room prices for multiple sessions. All agreed. I pulled some strings in Cascada, was lucky to get a double, costing $100 for Thu, Fri and Sat, but $80 with VIP discount. Timeshare a room on a busy night was tight time wise and needed good coordination..

[OrganicAlo]

Captain,

You break your own rule by paying first? - last time everyone I went upstairs asking for payment first. Is this getting more norm now? I only break this rule when I see no way around it and girl is hot. But there is risk of shitty service ones you pay. I also tried paying half first or putting money on table. But it's getting hard every visit.Just because you agree on paying after doesn't mean the session can't be shitty. I go with the flow, seems about 50/50 on rather or not a girl wants to be paid first.

[Captain Solo]

To SamWise,

Usually the girls want pagar primero when they have surprises to spring on the guys, or they are new in HK, have never seen the guys before.

If the girls will not take off their clothes first, they may bee hiding their droopy boobs, saggy bellies or baby damages, and afraid you may bolt. Ruth de Monterrey took the money and showed her completely flat chest with pencil-eraser nip, looking like a cholo. Disgusted me, killed my boner. A pretty girl's body looked decent but still had an extremely repulsive dead fish odor. Some are new to the trade in HK and don't want to get cheated. I regretted bailing out on nice, hot girls like Gracia. I should have paid her.

Girls who have been working in HK a while would know me in the club just about every weekend, so never ask for front payment. In Arianna's case she took off her clothes with nothing to hide. Her body was just so beautiful and sexy. She was also nice and sweet in bed. I am glad I paid her upfront.

Guys just have to negotiate payment and service terms in the bar before going to the hotel and deal with the girls case by case. But if they get burned, just chalk it up to life' new learning experience and the normal costs of mongering.

[SenorTJ]

Captain,

You break your own rule by paying first? - last time everyone I went upstairs asking for payment first. Is this getting more norm now? I only break this rule when I see no way around it and girl is hot. But there is risk of shitty service ones you pay. I also tried paying half first or putting money on table. But it's getting hard every visit.Don't pay all upfront! Give her half, then show her the other half but keep it with your clothes.

That said, I have on occasion paid upfront and had an excellent time.

[Member #4722]

I think the monger credo "I will pay after because once she has the money she has no incentive" is a myth. She knows she is going to get the money from you regardless or she can cause a lot of major problems if you try to withhold funds once the clothes come off or any physical contact is initiated. I have found no correlation between good / bad sessions and paying before or after. Most bar girls I have met lately want money up front. With most of my escort sessions I leave the money in plain sight and they collect on the way out the door.

[Dogers69]

Just because you agree on paying after doesn't mean the session can't be shitty. I go with the flow, seems about 50/50 on rather or not a girl wants to be paid first.I probably only paid first on a bar girl once, and probably it was the one that was terrible. Of course she was hot. The other one that was bad, not terrible was a HK girl. Otherwise it's been other bar girls, and IMO, I don't go upstairs unless the girl is very horny during her drink. In other words, she's making out with me, I'm sucking her tits, her pussy is wet. It's at that point, and that point only that I go upstairs. Well the 2 bad experiences were the exception, I needed sex and was foolish. So my point is, if the sex is going to go well, she'd probably bang you for free cause she's horny. So if she's all worried about money, yeah, sex is very likely to be bad. Sometimes, I pay first, without them asking, because I don't want an argument after on the low price. A lot times I went upstairs just out of obligation to all the wonderful fooling around at the drink, and to her low price, begging me but I don't fear bad sex cause she was basically banging me during the drink almost.

[LuvMexicanas]

I probably only paid first on a bar girl once, and probably it was the one that was terrible. Of course she was hot. The other one that was bad, not terrible was a HK girl. Otherwise it's been other bar girls, and IMO, I don't go upstairs unless the girl is very horny during her drink. In other words, she's making out with me, I'm sucking her tits, her pussy is wet. It's at that point, and that point only that I go upstairs. Well the 2 bad experiences were the exception, I needed sex and was foolish. So my point is, if the sex is going to go well, she'd probably bang you for free cause she's horny. So if she's all worried about money, yeah, sex is very likely to be bad. Sometimes, I pay first, without them asking, because I don't want an argument after on the low price. A lot times I went upstairs just out of obligation to all the wonderful fooling around at the drink, and to her low price, begging me but I don't fear bad sex cause she was basically banging me during the drink almost.There are no guaranteed signals that predict whether a session will be great or terrible. With that said, I think most in the hobby would agree there is a decent correlation between paying first and bad sessions. Of course there are exceptions because one of my best sessions ever in Sonora was a pay in advance situation. I disagree with your statement regarding a free bang because workings girls don't bang for free.

[Dcrist0527]

... So if she's all worried about money, yeah, sex is very likely to be bad...I'd love to know who the working girls are that aren't worried about money. In 95% of my sessions, I only go arriba with a girl that I connect with. But at no time do I think any of them aren't worried about money. Certainly, some are more eager or enjoy your company. But thinking they don't worry about the money is just not reality.

[KC Questor]

"El mariachi pagado toca mal son." ("The paid musician plays bad music.")

[Dogers69]

I'd love to know who the working girls are that aren't worried about money. In 95% of my sessions, I only go arriba with a girl that I connect with. But at no time do I think any of them aren't worried about money. Certainly, some are more eager or enjoy your company. But thinking they don't worry about the money is just not reality.I've had sex with working girls for free and I'm very low income, older than any working girl, and below average looking. I guess, I spent enough time in zona to find woman who liked my company despite only knowing 50 words in Spanish. Some girls, even HK, lowered her rate to 30 when I kept saying no. Other girls came to my hotel after work. So if a guy is 35 and under, in shape, and average looking he's going to find girls who desire his company, if he invests the time. But if I was that guy, I'd just do mostly tinder and a little bit of zona.

[DramaFree11]

I had an Italian Guy give some advice:.

1. I could be a Millionaire or Live like Millionaire, he choose to live like millionaire.

2. Live for the moment, do not look backwards.

3. Everyone lies and aggregates.

I have been all over Latin America, Ukraine, Russia and parts of Latin America. These guys claim and tell you not to pay the girls in advance. Sounds great, but In reality probably will not work, unless very low end girls. Even if you get a girl to agree to this at HK, try not to pay her after bad service. You will be in a world of hurt unless you are a regular and know security, even then it probably will not help. You definitely do not want to play that game. Again you are arguing about something that, will ultimately cause you to lose our on the great experience, with some amazing girls, sorry just not worth the hassle, most of the girls will never agree to this in any destinations, unless you know them.

A lot of guys lie and exaggerate to try and to make themselves look good. A lot of these guys never write any reports on any pages.

Another example, guys in Ukraine / Russia tell you never to pay for the girls taxi, see how far that gets you. Again over $5-10, or less you could lose out on awesome night, just not worth it.

Arguing with girls over $10-20, this is just not worth it. Again you will lose out on some amazing nights. Now if it is $50-100, then yes negotiate.

When I adopted some of these strategies at Hk, my experience got way better.

[Dcrist0527]

I've had sex with working girls for free and I'm very low income, older than any working girl, and below average looking. I guess, I spent enough time in zona to find woman who liked my company despite only knowing 50 words in Spanish. Some girls, even HK, lowered her rate to 30 when I kept saying no. Other girls came to my hotel after work. So if a guy is 35 and under, in shape, and average looking he's going to find girls who desire his company, if he invests the time. But if I was that guy, I'd just do mostly tinder and a little bit of zona.I have had some freebies as well. For me, those are cultivated friendships over time. I talk to a few on a regular basis. But because they throw me a bone once in a while, they aren't working at the bars for no reason. Back to your point that I disagree with, just because they are "interested in money" doesn't mean the sex is bad. If that is your premise, why would you ever go to the zona?

[Dcrist0527]

I had an Italian Guy give some advice:.

1. I could be a Millionaire or Live like Millionaire, he choose to live like millionaire.

2. Live for the moment, do not look backwards.

3. Everyone lies and aggregates.

I have been all over Latin America, Ukraine, Russia and parts of Latin America. These guys claim and tell you not to pay the girls in advance. Sounds great, but In reality probably will not work, unless very low end girls. Even if you get a girl to agree to this at HK, try not to pay her after bad service. You will be in a world of hurt unless you are a regular and know security, even then it probably will not help. You definitely do not want to play that game. Again you are arguing about something that, will ultimately cause you to lose our on the great experience, with some amazing girls, sorry just not worth the hassle, most of the girls will never agree to this in any destinations, unless you know them..So much wisdom in this post. I do not like paying first. I usually try to avoid it if possible. But, I rely on the ficha process to assess what the session would be like. Granted, my process is not as efficient as others. I only go arrriba unless we are really compatible and enjoy the time and drinks together. That is the time where I think you can most impact the quality of the session. If she is comfortable with you, and vice versa, handing her the money you've already agreed to is unlikely to hurt the session. Just the opposite, arguing over the timing of payment can kill the rapport you earned.

But the flaw in my process would be if you are not interviewing the girl. If I was to just walk up to a chica and negotiate arriba immediately, I would probably handle it differently.

[KC Questor]

Arguing with girls over $10-20, this is just not worth it. Again you will lose out on some amazing nights. Now if it is $50-100, then yes negotiate.This difference is purely your own decision on what is worth arguing about. For you, $10-20 is no big deal but $50-100 is. For other guys, $50-100 may not be worth bothering with. For other guys, $10-20 makes a difference. For some guys, it's the principle rather than the dollar amount. If I negotiate $60 and she says "Oh, now it's $80," I'm done with her even if I would have paid $80 to begin with.

Every guy should decide for himself what he is willing to put up with and where he draws the line.

[LuvMexicanas]

This difference is purely your own decision on what is worth arguing about. For you, $10-20 is no big deal but $50-100 is. For other guys, $50-100 may not be worth bothering with. For other guys, $10-20 makes a difference. For some guys, it's the principle rather than the dollar amount. If I negotiate $60 and she says "Oh, now it's $80," I'm done with her even if I would have paid $80 to begin with.

Every guy should decide for himself what he is willing to put up with and where he draws the line.I agree with you. There are so many options and this isn't Love Connection. You're paying for sex without obligations.

[DramaFree11]

So much wisdom in this post. I do not like paying first. I usually try to avoid it if possible. But, I rely on the ficha process to assess what the session would be like. Granted, my process is not as efficient as others. I only go arrriba unless we are really compatible and enjoy the time and drinks together. That is the time where I think you can most impact the quality of the session. If she is comfortable with you, and vice versa, handing her the money you've already agreed to is unlikely to hurt the session. Just the opposite, arguing over the timing of payment can kill the rapport you earned.

But the flaw in my process would be if you are not interviewing the girl. If I was to just walk up to a chica and negotiate arriba immediately, I would probably handle it differently.Totally correct, you should interview her and the best way is over a drink and even better try to get her to go to Azul. If she agrees to this then you are probably in for a nice session, but it ultimately boils down to chemistry / trust.

[LuisMora]

There are no guaranteed signals that predict whether a session will be great or terrible. With that said, I think most in the hobby would agree there is a decent correlation between paying first and bad sessions. Of course there are exceptions because one of my best sessions ever in Sonora was a pay in advance situation. I disagree with your statement regarding a free bang because workings girls don't bang for free.I agree there is a general correlation between paying first and a bad session, but I will disagree that, at least in Tijuana bars, that paying first causes the generally worse sessions. This is a classic "Correlation does not imply causation" situation. When a girl is happy and comfortable with a client, she is much more likely to not worry so much about getting paid first. What's causing the pay-after sessions to be better is the positive feelings of the girl, not when she's paid. If a girl asks a client to pay first and the client argues or forces her to wait until after, that will just make her even more uncomfortable / unhappy and make the service even worse. As noted by many, it's not like you will be able to withhold payment if her performance doesn't meet your expectations.

So yea, I always hope there will be no discussion of payment before, but if she does ask for me to pay first I quickly pay up and keep things nice, happy, and fun. I'm not going to start some unsexy contentious discussion and increase the chances of a terrible session even more.

[Goyo61]

I like the way you do it Rog. Just put the money out there. That way she knows your not going to try to stiff her.

There have been times I couldn't drop my load while banging her and I was amazed at how the girls really work hard to get you off in other ways. Many do really care to give you a good time.

Goyo.


I think the monger credo "I will pay after because once she has the money she has no incentive" is a myth. She knows she is going to get the money from you regardless or she can cause a lot of major problems if you try to withhold funds once the clothes come off or any physical contact is initiated. I have found no correlation between good / bad sessions and paying before or after. Most bar girls I have met lately want money up front. With most of my escort sessions I leave the money in plain sight and they collect on the way out the door.

[DcGamer69]

I'm a user with similar handle ( 50+ reports on USA), took break from hobbying around time myredbook / BP were booming, prior had only took stroll in Tijuana zona area for beer with college buddies after crossing from SD, having only tried a less than memorable 20 usd SG in st motel.

Decided to make 1st Tijuana flex,1st monger / hobby experience in la zona this past Oct 5-10,crossed via car, associate drove me via car left around late 12 pm arrived late 2 pm from LA, driver crossed back via car with plan of me getting HK limo / driver to drop me off to cross back via foot pedwest, was dropped off in front of HK / Cascadas on Coahuila Street (the side of the strip with Adelitas, HK and with Club Tropical across street), had done appropriate RTFT research on here, studied notes,1st I did was go straight into Cascadas entrance next to HK, in line check-in with my target being Hotel Cascadas check in 3 pm / check-out 1 pm time frame, got VIP Card, reception was OK with it, applied 20% for Sun, Thu & 80% for Mon / Tue,250 usd, made reservations around 2-3 wk prior.

Check-in took 30 min,4 pm I had settled in rm after staff finished, provided all sheets / towels & helped setup safe code, tipped initially in quarters as I had change in clothing to staff that helped me into my room, got Master Suite, planned initially 4 nights Sun check in / Thursday out (later extended 1 d), rm was in 300's,3rd FL, I vaped & medicated with hash. Oil / cannab. Is as I don't consume alcohol due to physical pain / pelvic floor discomfort, stuck to water but ficha'd a few ladies drinks through out. Really liked bluetooth speaker in rm, played music extremely loud in rm, when I was there and not, figured it's a redlight district hotel, so no one would complain about the music, and it ensured someone thought people / someone was in there all the time, did turn it off the 3-4 hours (crazy, normally went to sleep daily at 6 am after averaging 3-4 girls a day) I slept. Made sure to always have some chewing gum for the girls and water for a few after I noticed it helped having something for them to chew on / drink etc.

4 pm, went outside Cascadas via Callejon Coahuila (side of the strip with Chavelas, Valentinas, and with La Carretera across the street) planning to go into HK buy saw sg:

1) saw a high 7 in scale SG paradita, name began with M, was early 20's, long legs thin, spinner, light skin, hair died light, I tipped 1 usd shortly after saying Hello, (speaking fluent Spanish) and grabbed ass, tits and grabbed her waist (after reading here, I learned you should only grab on BGs, not SGs, YMMV) to get look of way her legs ran down and view of her backside, asked what her age was / where from and if she was avail. ,said yes, I asked how much for HR, quoted me 100 usd (knowing that is on the high range for an SG) I pressed for "con anal"(with anal), she did not agree, so I responded if it was HR w / MSOG / all I can handle OK, we went up. Got 3 sessions, unrushed, she was clean, good FS, everything with a cover. Rested near 1 HR, hydrated / washed up. 100 usd 60 min / HR 3 pops unrushed near, said "all I can handle for HR" so I could've kept going, will next time.

2) had previously scheduled 3 girls w / foxystj (website is down ATM currently BTW) via emailed them to book me for M. (nice mids 20's brunette light complexion, had braces, big nice silicone big size see boobs, nice body, thin) on Sun, be. On Mon, and be. On Tue all 10 pm for 90 min (115 usd) sessions requested greek / anal (+25) for all, decided to get water down from reception for 1 usd before the escort session with M (foxystj called to confirm, I also called them as soon as I was in my room before first SG I had to tell them my room#as I went bk to my rm going in elevator 2 HK BGs in club robes went up elevator with me, I could tell they were "hunters"after they joked around, I guess HK was overflowing & likely packed, Sunday crowd, I hadn't gone down but these 2 girls were roaming Hotel Cascadas trying to talk to dudes staying there, they offered a 3 some in my rm, I asked their age 1 was bronze skinned, spinner early 20's,other lead hunter BG was more mercenary late 20's, likely 30's bubble butt, nice body, not thin but not thick but fit, light-skin, attitude joking around (she made joke about "milking me" since I told them I just arrived and was going up from buying h20 and was going to HK shortly so wasn't interested, they kept talking & exited where I exited, I distanced myself but before told older 1 I would see them ONLY if she was down for greek / Anal, said it loudly as I walked away LOL, I never turned to my back on them as I walked to my room tho, they noticed I didn't want them to know what room I was in, so it was a friendly but out nowhere brief meeting with them, more on her later as SHE hunted me Wed night in HK / got grk / anal), went back to rm, chilled, M. Arrived promptly, was not feeling "good" how we talked as she began planning to wash up for action, she told me she wasn't aware I wanted greek and she would need heat up jacuzzi (takes 20 min to heat-up / fill up) for her to get relaxed, I brought up fact it would cut into my 90 min sesh, she tried to ease me by telling me she could always say (to agency / foxystj) she left earlier but she would honor by staying half HR more in my room (so I got 2 HR from her). I felt OK then and let her proceed washing up and turned on the jacuzzi / warmed it. Session included MSOG, so I got 3 pops in 90 min sesh, greek multiple positions (cowgirl and her on her belly with me on top) being last. Thinking back, I would've liked TLN (all nite, which was 400 w / anal). But I was looking for as many girls as I could take up this being my 1st visit, great escort,115 90 min (2 HR in real-time, but she washed up for 15+min)+25 grk.

3) 12 am, took up 4 $ bananas and waffles from Azul, ate and saved for later, rested then decided it was either now or I was going to miss out knowing how Sun night is in HK, I went in 1st time to HK (Callejon Coahuila entrance) Sun, it was 1 am as I made my way to small-bar in entrance & the area near stairs going up to Miami VIP rooms had lined up girls, rest club was decently filled with girls, did not want to roam club much, people. Were starring, so saw P. From MX city,26 yo spinner, dark blk hair, bronze-skin, silicone goods, said had no kids, looked great in lingerie in HK but in mish she looked DropDead gorgeous, quoted-me 100 I asked if she allowed kisses, unrushed, didn't want time taken up if she showered, said my first time in HK and I was tired so maybe was just looking for company, I asked for HR w / MSOG then she replied HR150,I requested 120/45 min MSOG, got push-back "what's big deal for the 15 min extra"she said, I said if she wanted 120 or not & if she was going up w / me, went up rm no ficha or dealing w / meseros as HK was busy, got great session w / MSOG, near GFE, light kissing on lips, solid 8 body nearing 8. 5 w / good fake tits, face / look was typical Mexican almond eyed spinner look ala Cassandra Cruz or current starlet Harmony Wonder. Saw her Wed night, did not repeat, she left room on time around 40 min sesh pay after sesh ended, but I let her out so no rush on her pt, slept very late partying on my own chilling like a villain, with music full volume, studied notes I had in text file in phone and did some accounting / overview of what to do next, ate bit,11 am waked and medicated, showered and ate, applied lots 5 $ Cuba gold cologne cheap but good enough, went down to HK. 120 usd 45 min unrushed 2 pops MSOG.

4) Monday afternoon went into HK, 1 pm to 2,somewhat busy but not overflowing, I went down the larger area where girls are pole dancing and people are in the small couches / tables near big bar / Coahuila Street HK entrance, I caught eye of curly hair frizzy hair slender big butt and silicone goods, long legs, light complexion, reminded me of light-skin ebony / Dominican lookers, not thick but not spinner nor fat but similar body to J-Lo in her prime, I wanted HR w / greek 150 usd but found she dug deep with 180 response, I asked if included MSOG anal yes she pushed bk for all so I asked if unlimited MSOG HR I would, I knew 180 was high but I wanted to avoid negotiating for long time standing by near pole dancers where I saw her shaking her ass so I liked that ass too much and we went up, pago / pay upfront was requested by her, seeing it was already high w / no greek I felt not very hyped, full service session 2 pops, all good, she did not let me touch her behind or ass cheeks or slap it with my rod which is what I like to do to get uber hard and going, so all that and no kissing and no touching behind with my rod it made trying to get ready for second time not that easy, thing is I wasn't in a rush thinking I had the whole full hour she agreed to, but having paid before FS began she was in a rush likely waiting for me to pop 2nd time and leave, disregarding the full HR, which was what happened. I did pop 2 times and she gave effort to get me up again with CBJ & succeeded, but looking at her frame and eyes, hot face and body got me up again fast, so yea it was good sesh, it was barely 40 min or so when she got ready to leave, said she had to go, I told her "mariachi pagado aka that's what paying upfront got me", her leaving as soon as I popped 2 times, irked me a bit but I got what I wanted just not whole 1 HR of her in my room. She wasn't type to let you spend time grabbing and kissing her body, business hardened, spoke English just like any Mexican-American escort in the US would and was likely early 30's,from Tijuana, likely grew up in US but I didn't probe, had kid (s). Focused too much on her looks I found exotic and her assets instead of paying heed to high price, at this pt I felt it was a good sesh but somewhat distasteful to a degree but negligible, still was pumped to continue going down to HK. 180 usd 2 pops MSOG 40 min instead of 1 HR agreed.

5) nearing early evening, club was similarly busy as before, so meseros were being annoying, I had not ficha'd / gotten drinks for any girls whatsoever at this pt and had refrained from tipping or buying water / anything in HK, only tipping 1 usd when saying and beginning negotiation with ladies I approached as I always grabbed them and tested the goods. I was roaming HK from end to beginning briefly (small bar to main bar with pole dancers / booths / couches) when I heard the alerting loud English commotion from mesero, caught me off guard, he was spot on pushy as soon as he saw and got my attention / looked at him "want to buy a VIP lap dance for a girl!" not in a happy sounding or looking way, I was moving as he said it so guess he didn't like I brushed him off as I said "No I'm good", not sure if the mesero was ex-resident in US, but he kept at me with VIP ticket, I didn't budge and kept moving. He went away and I chose girl from Veracruz, late 20's, looked good in HK and I liked how big her ass looked / felt and was rather first not slender but not thick, she was somewhat curvy but fit still, big fake silicone felt good, dark skin, said she didn't like her complexion later on as we hung by mirror in bathroom as I felt her up / played with boobs. Around 6. 7 range in scale of 10 of hotness, guess I payed more attention to her assets. What was not cool, was she was on her period, and I found this out as I went in rock hard, she even was telling me I was not cool how big I was I going to hurt her, I told her why would it be a problem, not sure if she was being honest, but I'm guessing she was saying that because she was hoping me to be small (I'm not a tall dude) and finish quick without noticing any blood, well I did find out, I wore protection like all times but was still annoyed by this accident, as I was pumping away rock hard in her bronze big butt big boob body I pulled out just out of habit in long pumps, but noticed the blood, to my dismay she denied she was on her period and said it was injury / I was too big, I don't think that was it but maybe, guessing she was on her rag and didn't let me know, I offered to give her 40 if she gave me back the 100 (I know guys can complain to the reception if girl misbehaves, does you wrong etc, so guessing she wanted to avoid and me saying she was on period and did not perform), she seem to be doing that but before she began leaving she approached me with idea if she used sponge / etc and it would stop bleeding and I could finish. Well it happened, I liked her enough it felt like a good sesh, strangely this felt more rewarding than prior girl. We talked bit, despite what happened should've felt bad / off-putting it didn't LOL, but THEN, a knock came to my door. I was like wtf, we were already dressed so it wasn't off-guard, opened door and it was the annoying English speaking mesero who was still pissed, I didn't catch what he said to me specifically, but I guess the girl in my room naturally reacted to thinking she had to get out of my room, like when guy gets room for the sesh for the 19 $ per girl and then staff knocks when your time is up. Except I booked my room, and here was this mesero who I said no to his VIP ticket salesmanship still angry, he went away, but it put me at alert and discomforted me. Girl had to leave my room now and she had told the mesero we were done already and she was leaving soon, so she did that but as she did I asked her why that happened despite me having booked room for the night (s), I explained also I had not ficha'd / bought anything at the bar for the any girl I had taken up. She explained I likely was targeted by mesero / staff since I was not buying anything from the house / bar and because it was busier before I had gone more unnoticed, this led me to change my game a bit and I decided to ficha next girl. Had to get ready for escort in few hours at 10 pm from foxystj so washed, rested bit, ate, chilled etc,100 usd.

6) foxystj sent their girl on time again 10 pm, this time be. Early 20's,possible 19 yo, somewhat curvy 6 out 10 scale. Website and pics made pics seem she was spinner, way prettier and a high 7 or 8 and noted greek offered. Well none of that. I still went with it, she was still not off-putting and I figured I would enjoy her company and chill in jacuzzi, I turned it on, offered her gum, water, watched TV / porn for bit as we sessioned, popped 3 times, but despite her saying she would do greek, it was not going that way, she couldn't get relaxed and later said she hadn't done greek prior and said she would definitely do it if saw her again. Strangely the GFE type chilling and chatter we enjoyed in my room and in jacuzzi felt fun enough, I'm single dude so it was better than chilling lonesome, so despite I suspect she may been a quick girl they used to fill in a girl that cancelled / or whatever since pics were not her, I still found sesh good and 3 pops MSOG competent. Good FS,90 min sesh no greek despite that's what I scheduled so 115 usd very unrushed near GFE 90 min.

7) relaxed and had gone to Azul got empanadas Argentinas (like similar to meat breaded Chinese dumplings) 1 $ each, a bargain IMO, and along with the waffle+bananas meal I often got, a few 1.22 usd empanadas (3-4 of them) were enough to eat. Usually ate 2-3 empanadas and then some waffles daily while there at Azuls, skipped the Taco stands and outside food to avoid any stomach issues during my trip, I planned to get Thur. As many girls so this was going well. It was getting late my last escort had left 12 am, I was going to call it a night since I kept medicating and chilling it up alone in my room with 420 and music, it was getting late 3 am-4 am, still was awake and thinking of what happened earlier with mesero acting up and knocking on my door. I decided also to still keep the night going and decided I was going to go for 4th girl this day, a record at this pt, past day had been 3 girls, I was hyped enough and went down, with objective to do it right this time and ficha a girl I like and bring her up to be good terms with the bar, even if they didn't notice / care etc. Was 4 am inside HK, few dudes in there and small lap-dance stage by Callejon Coahuila entrance of HK I caught my eye on F. Early 20's,mid20's from Sinaloa, spoke good English, she was dancing on stage and looked good, not a lot tats but looked like definite party girl, not boring or stuck up type, I wanted her. I wasn't sure if to go by her stage and sit etc, so just asked and signaled to HK staff / security looking (not bouncer but dudes wearing dark clothing) guy if she was available, he signaled me to her that I wanted her or she was being requested by me. I believe she was ending her dance, and she was putting her lingerie back on, after being nude on stage. I was sitting back in chair near bar but seemed it was better me to already go talk to her, she was barely coming down from stage, and I gave her a 1 usd and grabbed her body / checked it out, asked again if she was free (not to go up but to sit with me etc), ficha'd a beer for her, she drank it slowly as suggested here means she'll be good upstairs, I quickly was like "let's go up", not sure if she quoted me anything, I just remember I payed after and there was no issue at all. As I got to her as she was down from stage, I was astounded by how hot she was, such a fine face, reminded me of Caucasian features, straight alpine nose, dark blk hair, Demi Moore in StripTease look, I'm not Caucasian myself (fluent Spanish speaker, typical north american mestizo aka Latino with native / euro dna) so she felt that way to me despite I was in Tijuana, it reminded me a lot also of those few latin light skin cuties of my youth from high school yrs. She spoke lots English as we went up to Cascadas, she used the 1 usd I gave her and bought lube despite me saying I had, she even used it on me, she was A1 service. DDGorgeous eyes, face and body maybe a high 7. 9,combined with all I'd say high 8,she was tipsy notably and before coming up from HK I told her to bring up her drink to my room, session was great, normal FS many positions but lots kissing, I lasted long and kept going at mish, she even was the one asking to switch positions since I kept pumping away she wanted to try many, no rush. She left a bit over the 30 min, I was not focused at all on budget with her so I just gave her 100 usd, asked her schedule, she was done, I was her last. Saw her again 4 am in same strip stage dancing Friday but just said Hi to her, she seemed to be wanting me to go to her, client was with her but she was the one saying Hi to me. I somewhat ignored her that second time I saw her in HK, in retrospect I should've taken her up again but more on that as I share what happened then later. 100 usd GFE experience.

8) Tuesday started similarly, chilled to the max and ate bit, cleaned up, asked for some towels plus 1 usd tip to staff who gave it to me, went down to HK was around 2 pm or late afternoon, HK was popping but not overly saturated, not sure if I ficha'd the next girl but I may have, was eyeing this spinner bronze skin petite cutie with almond eyes, total native / Thai look, hot, she was next to the Veracruz girl I had seen prior, I said Hi to her but asked this new to me girl where she was from. I guess she may have misperceived me asking her where I meant, I meant where in Mexico, but she responded Mexico, I assume because maybe some think she's Asian, she asked where I was from, but as I responded slowly to her "Loooos Annngeleees" as distracted I shifted my sight of view to another spinner, except hotter and firecracker type of cutie, looked similar to the one I was introducing myself to but better, once I saw a older American gringo Joe Bidden looking dude pass her, I went straight to her and left the one I asked where she was from alone (I saw same girl looking at me confused as if she wanted me to go for her a day or two after, but I didn't, her face either had too much makeup or something because she wasn't pretty face wise when near as I thought), decided to go up, girl was around 4,11 or 5 ft, early 20's, Jynx Maze type body, similar look except almond eyes / like Harmony Wonder or Cassandra Cruz. Didn't ask pay upfront, good FS, no rush, probably would've stayed longer or good deal avail, gave her 100 usd. First time in HK, so didn't come with lots change, and didn't negotiate much on price, I know now many of these ladies go up for less than 100, so those reading this, ask for less, 100 usd.

9) 8-9 pm, resting & chilling in room, blaring music, planning / keeping account of what next etc, reading notes, then went into HK, place in full effect, not as busy as I witnessed on Wed. Which was when I saw things ramp up (full of girls, probably near 120-150), but I saw better talent, more 8's,lots style ladies, many tall, spinners, bubble butts, light skin girls, native looking girls, Asian lookers, even 1 black girl 6-7 scale. I soon chose A. Mid20's,a banging looking 8.5 or from afar high 8 near 9, she had nice sexy outfit and looked uber hot, bronze skin, was from Mx city, Pocahontas look, big ass, silicone goods (or big naturals, don't recall, A1 nonetheless), didn't ask if had kids, but don't think so, single girl attitude, joked around saying she could be my witch / conjurer after I said she was hypnotizing me how good she smelled after she relaxed nude massaging and putting lotion on her and some on me after we were done, no rush, I think she overstayed, liked this one a lot & got vibes she knew how much I liked her, kept asking her I wanted her to be a bad girl, not a good girl like she was w / me & give that Ass up &let me have grk since I loved her bod so much, as she left I told her I wanted her ass. She may have asked pay upfront, don't recall,100 usd. At this pt I probably thought this was best girl sofar. Saw her next day, but I fronted saying Hi to her in a low key way, she somewhat brushed me off, didn't try to respond much, guess she wanted me to take her up &not greet me, either way she was repeat material when you get a session like that,100 usd.

10) I had struck gold in my opinion & came back to my room few min before my next foxystj girl was coming 10 pm, last girl had left my room maybe less 20 min before. I hurried, got some food down at Azul for later since night was far from over. Got ready for be. Early 20's spinner type bod light skin light hair hazel eyes girl from Sinaloa, almond eyes but light features, natural boobs, small but decent, felt and looked like girl next door type, came dressed not looking like SW or BG nor escort in heels, wore jeans, light leather jacket and heeled light shoes, kinda felt off put for some reason, guess I was reminded of some chicks like her who ignore you in past. Turns out she was greek virgin, and that led to some uneasiness on my pt, we agreed we could see if she was open to it but she kept saying "we could try it", told her 115 90 min FS or 140 90 min with greek since that's what I scheduled. She told me she never had done greek and said she told foystj to put it so she would be requested, didn't dig that but session still took off, got 3 pops MSOG, attempt at greek but I layed down that it was either all of my rod in her behind or no extra for greek, "no trying it, I want that ass all of it", tried it and failed on her pt, she couldn't relax or maybe was tightening her sphincter who knows, finished sesh, found her so attractive towards the end asked her if could get another pop even though she was ready to go (after me initiating getting dressed and starting to let her go, my fault should have held out for another), I'd like to see this babe again if foxystj is bk, said she was lesbian (guess she means bi if indeed she liked dudes as well) and was BG or ficha girl in many bars in her past, told me she would do greek if saw her again, but I don't believe that. If I had chance I'd take her down to HK and have 3 some with a girl and her for value and to get some partying out of her, if she or the agency comes back. 115 usd 90 min 3 pop MSOG.

11) began Wed in noon as went down to HK, saw A. From Sinaloa on scale out 10,solid 7, ass and tits were more like 8 out 10, rest high 6-7, slender and maybe body like Cardi B except Almond eyes, light tan complexion, early 20's, not small nor short but not tall, long blk hair, saw her near stairwell, got me attracted instantly as I saw her frame from side, looked at her side few times as I stood next to her, she looked good. Nothing bad in this sesh, all good FS. Girl was friendly and said I should be pornstar, and I gave her some insight on how I would have to start from the bottom if I wanted to do pron (I. E. Start banging fat ugly huge whale broads in fetish flicks if I wanted to rack up porn work as a newb male performer), she found that intriguing LOL. No rush at all, stayed full 30 min or bit more, 100 usd.

12) went back in HK after 1-2 HR rest in rm was 2 pm, was walking around and looking at pole dancers in bigger bar side of HK, mesero was not pushy but started following me after kinda funny I told him I wanted slender / thin girl, he got me this hot creamy skinned young Courtney Cox in her prime looker but as she sat down with me she saw a client I guess she had scheduled or regular and she left me for him, felt kind of lame so I got up and told the mesero he wasn't of any help and I went to other side of bar, he was sticking to following me, I didn't tip anything since he was rather not letting me roam as I wanted, so settled on girl he got for me, V. Late 20's likely 30 from Nuevo Leon, high 7 out 10,looked very fine, long legs, light skin, black hair, Sasha Gray type body, fine face brunette Pam Anderson look, was a lot into music in my rm, I asked where was from, ficha'd her and was grabbing on her, I found most girls have no prob you squeezing chest / grabbing legs / hands etc if you ficha them / buy drink and are with them in table / booth, she didn't ask for pay upfront, clapped her heels since I told her to keep them on as I banged away in mish, kinky attitude&nice, got#. I could have gave her less than 100 usd since we hadn't said anything, gave her that since I basically had more 100's on me (lesson for next time, also didn't want to have reception / staff see me changing 100's,they also were short on change at times, didn't want to use ATM either). Sesh was among best but previous girls were more stunners, especially the silicone and bubble butt ones, guess in retrospect I still prefer quality / looks wise as long as FS is good,100 usd.

13) went back to HK, still Wed, 7 pm, HK was very lively, lots Asians, gringos from SD, saw some Indian dudes, felt cool, lively, lots girls. Chose to ficha girl I saw, sit down with P. From Cancun, super hot early 20's,bronze-skin body / like Scarlet Domingo looker, petite, long legs, tight body, loved it. Girl was fun in HK as I grabbed on her in booth / table, she took up beer after we went in my rm, asked her about Cancun in elevator, FS was really good, warmest vag yet at this pt,100 usd, unrushed, she even wanted more beer after she was leaving my room / asked me if I was going down (in retrospect I guess this means you can keep ficha'ing here I. E. Go down to bar with her and she may have given TLN or more sessions cheaper, will do that with girls next time).

14) hung out in my room going over budget / what do to next, rested and ate etc, went to HK back around 11 pm, HK was amazing this Wed night, over 120+ girls all over the place, it was really all flavors and types of girls, standing, sitting all over, pole dancing, so much I felt at ease just walking (was crowded and lots guys, still many girls so was worth being in the not too bad sausage fest), meseros / staff only was telling people to keep walking since tons people were all over. I was roaming as the Hunter from Sun. Night (read #2) poked me on my back as I was mid area in HK first floor, it was the. The late 20's, early30's bubble butt hunter, style like pornstar Aurora Jolie aka Nikara in her prime anal scenes, I had told I would only see her if she gave me grk / anal, since she hunted me right there on spot, I said 100 and with anal right now, she said why anal, I responded none of these girls will give me, so you want 100 now lets go, and I got it. Hell yeah, it was awesome, we already had met and she made it way easier and didn't push bk to my negotiation, she didn't take long getting ready lubed up in her sweet bubble butt, rock hard I went to town her belly on bed position laying flat, me on top pumping, good sesh,100 usd short time greek, not bad. She asked for tip. I said no way LOL. She asked for drink from minibar, I said no. But told her I'd definitely wanted grk from her any time if I saw her again. Hoping I see her again or work out another spur of the moment grk again. Guys on here ask if HK girls do grk, there's an example.

15) now 12 am, like I mentioned that Hunter on this still going Wed. Night in HK hunted me down while I was in awe how HK was 11 pm on Wed night, who knows if I would've scored a 3 some or a hot stunner if she hadn't taken me, but at least I got greek from HK girl like I planned, escorts are better for that, but it was awesome, I rested and did the usual taking care of myself, eating, resting, working out a bit (sit ups and burning some calories etc) in room (Master Suite is spacious enough), went back to HK at 2-3 am, since Wed night overflow was still popping, meseros were not that annoying, I was in bigger lower part of HK, and snatched up a stunner, hottest yet, solid 9,she was kind of tall also but not catwalk status (did talk to some of those, but they were kinda snotty and faces not that hot in my opinion, just talked to one that had glasses however), this girls was E. Mid 20's,creamy skin, Caucasian looker, around 5'7 long killer legs, wearing Calvin Klein underwear, she was where VIP dance girls and pole dancers were, brown curly hair, reception dude kind of was as awed as me, girl was friendly and I loved how she looked, big silicone knockers too, bubble butt for days. Good FS, let me touch everywhere and anywhere, rubbed and slapped my rod on those cheeks. I told her to stay and not move when I finishes, LOL, I wanted to behold the sight of her and her not to start leaving, good sesh 100 usd, not sure if she asked upfront pay but didn't matter in retrospect, she was stunner model material. I know its still high for a BG, but this was my first time.

16) OK this it was now. Thursday morning. I had originally planned this day to be checkout at 1 pm, but I decided to extend 1 the (checkout Fri 1 pm) and proceeded to enjoy my day, I was liking the experience and wanted to try more variety and at least leave till Friday afternoon. I was feeling mixed feelings also, since a mesero had again annoyed me that previous night after that super hot 9 stunner, guess she either didn't go back to HK after she left my room, or mesero was sent to my room since I didn't buy VIP dance or ficha before I took her up, nonetheless this felt annoying as hell, since the mesero had waken me up around 5 am as I was sleeping, he asked were E. Was as soon I opened door, I said "no one is here, she was just here for a 30 min sesh and left my rm", mesero could see I was being direct and serious, also that I was tired as hell LOL, and didn't say anything else but "I apologize" and went away, still had me annoyed. Well it was now the last day nearing my last night there since I was leaving next day (Fri), I went into HK around 2 pm, there alot of girls, some even were being direct and saying come to me, I should've picked a hot one, but I was blinded by a girl coming down the stairs that had a good set of knockers, silicone, and wearing pumps, long legs, A. From Sinaloa, early 20's, body built and look like Aurora Jolie aka Nikara in her best scenes, except Latina Mexican look tan skin almond / native eyes and had bubble butt, solid 7 in scale out of 10,got me attracted to her, too many girls around and others were hotter as I recall but guess too many options made it difficult too decide and her assets distracted me, be careful about this, and I could tell girls around me were annoyed I went to her, she seemed kinda new in retrospect as she was not that direct when I asked her if we could go sit and get a drink, well we did, and we went up to room, session was good, and she even seemed impressed with me, telling me I had a six pack abs etc (barely but she kept seeing me thru mirror), full service was good until she did that thing escorts and working girls do, the tightening and making it harder for you to go deep, pump away, well that bothered me but I ignored it and still got my way and finished my way, but still that had bothered me. As no other girl had done this yet, this ended up getting to me. She kinda of was sticking around and looking at my fridge so I ended up loosing it and told her to get tf out of my room and "all the girls I have seen did not what you did, I should've gave you 80 not 100, wtf would you stop me going in like I wanted, etc. All the other girls didn't, you are giving Sinaloa girls a bad name, you are a liar, you know I can complain to the staff / reception about you. Etc" it was brief but I spoke fast to her, and I could see she felt bad, she went away. It wasn't too bad but I did react bad, so this was officially first bad sesh.

17) I collected myself, and got into a better mode, the trip was still a good first experience, I had seen many different girls from all over Mx, many light skin Caucasian lookers, many typical Cassandra Cruz Pocahontas spinner types, Jynx Maze style girls, many small petite Thai / Asian built types, and bubble butt hip hop pole dancer lookers, most with silicone and big asses, many enhanced. This Thurs 7 pm was still very popping, I went right into HK, with fresh state of mind and energy, I could see guys were overwhelmed, and I went by stairwell overseeing lower area of HK, it felt like many teen lovelies were all lined up, felt like a throwback to college summer days when campus is full of distractions of hot girls of all types. I liked I. Early 20's fake blonde green eye contacts wearing light skin, long legs, petite spinner, High School sweetheart girlfriend material from Mx. City, very pretty with braces body like a light skin Italian / French brunette spinner, I saw her when she was with her friends, most were also light skin and looked like were from Northern states, all hot, I liked that and was confident with her, she didn't want a ficha / drink and we went right up my room. I told her I considered her Girlfriend material as she left my room after really good FS session, no rush, I didn't pursue her but should've gotten my moneys worth before moving onto another girl but left it at that. She also noticeably seemed more into talking, smiling more when we parted ways, really dug her. 100 usd.

18) I was really hyped now, I had seen high school sweetheart types, super model stunners, and was chilling and enjoying my first HK flex in Tijuana. I should've definitely gone to other bars and more SGs, but the abundance of hot girls, silicone, bubble butts, ease, accommodations at Cascadas, cheap / safe food at Azul made it easy. I was going to HK all time of the day and having good numbers so far with how many girls I had taken up in my 5 the stay. I continued my usual relaxing and accountability in my room, kept to myself and 420 and chilling with music, still in awe of the caliber and hot chicks I had experienced was awesome. I went back to HK around 1130 pm-12 am saw S. From Mx. City 20 yo girl so far, loved that fact, complete solid 8 in my books, Scarlet Domingo type body, look style similar to Harmony Wonder, I ficha'd her, loved holding her hands and touching her, talking to her in booth / table. Took her up rm, she was coolest chick in my opinion so far, as in she seemed one with least responsibilities, she had most small size tats one her as well, body and style similar to escorts in US who get tons clients on HX, she said many gringo / HK clients take her weedpens etc. I didn't partake with her, but our full service sesh was superb, she was very tight. I joked I wanted to keep her and her to be mine as she left my room, again for next time these type of girls are good to ficha them again / go down the bar again and get more time / TLN (all night) with them / more value or repeat etc, 100 usd unrushed, in these instances since I ficha'd her I should have gone with trying 80/90 for session, word to the wise.

19) party was still going, and I was liking it. I was in my room around 1 am began packing and getting ready for next day 1 pm Fri checkout and chilling, medicating, listening to music, trying jacuzzi, wasn't in rush and since I had been averaging 3-4 girls a night, I decided to get pack of smokes in reception and coca cola for 6 usd and finishes packing, showered. I also drank some alcohol some of the girls had left, like I mentioned I don't drink and it's OK a few sips and a beer, but bad for me health wise, but it didn't do me bad. I drank some beer in rm and smoked some cigarettes, since I was enjoying last night in my Master Suite in HK and 1st Tijuana flex I smoked a few stogies, maybe got a bit cloudy minded from the beer I drank, I decided to go down to HK around 4 am, I had been thinking to wait till Friday morning / afternoon before 1 pm checkout to try last girl to know / experience last girls on last day there, but I still went since I said "I'm here might as well go down now better than not" well I don't know what happened, it was just bad luck I guess, but even though the selection was good, and F. From Sinaloa (see #7) was there as I entered at 4 am by pole dancers in smaller HK (Callejon Coahuila side of HK entrance) area, she said fly, signaling. Teasing me even though 1-2 dudes was there tipping her as she was on stage. I should've taken her up, but I just walked by her and did say Hi but played it off, newb lesson I guess. Well even though I also saw a few high 7's near 8's try to get near me, and get my attention I was distracted by a plainer but taller light skin girls I had seen Tuesday night, I recall she seemed trying to ignore eye contact with any dude, that type of girl, she looked good too, long legs, in heels she had the catwalk look. She did not have lingerie / stripper attire on like most HK girls do as well, she instead wore short skirt, heels, and tops, that's it, early 20's,from Ensenada, quoted 80 (First girl to quote me 80, and strangely, even though I know it was my first time, she was downright the worst girl I saw, read on), I was basically on end of budget, trip with room and everything was running me near 2.2-2.3 k already and I was on my last 100 for mongering, rest a few bucks cash for incase I needed ride back / etc. It was also last girl I was going to FS also, and that likely and maybe fact I drank some beer before made it bad sesh. So yeah 4 am I took this civie (aka civilian) looking girl up, and she strangely seemed either drunk or just out of it but she first was standing looking around room after undressing, and when she did get on bed, already I was irked she seem to be doing things in slow-motion, she also didn't allow touch her skin with my rod or any playing intimately with her body, mechanical, and at one point she killed the mood as I attempted to get rubber on after lubed, as she brought up me not touching her in case I had hpv, this slow mo style continued until I for some reason ended up busting on my own, hard to explain. But as I was trying to get it up she kept retreating and closing her legs, frustrated me and she knew it, and not sure but she began saying she could report me to reception if treated her badly, she was coming off as negative. 4 am and bad luck and it being Thurs night / slow night, early Fri mor. ,she wanted to finish that shorttime sesh with me or whatever, so as she kept being negative I came on my on. Annoyed me a bit, but thinking it over and not liking my last girl and first nonfs and bad session (last bad session was bad but atleast it turned bad since I was irked that girl stuck around, this was a bad sesh all around). She was hot and tall and I dug that, but next time, I'll ignore civie / plainer looking girls. Many girls said Hi and wanted my attention as well, was a buyers market that 4 am but I went in with "now or never attitude" and it ended up as official burnout, 19 girls in 5 days, super awesome experience, all 19 girls were hot, HK and Tijuana are officially my first monger / international hobbyist experience. Will go again, negotiate more and try more places, more SGs, and escorts as well as threesomes.

I have done tons RTFT and research, HK & Tijuana were extremely safe, crossed back in pedestrian crossing pedwest, checkout at 3 pm Fri afternoon, told staff I was going back crossing if I could get HK ride / limo back, they confirmed my room checking me out, left more than half of pack of smokes to HK staff who likely checked my room, guess young bellboy liked that. Staff was cordial all around, I tipped mesero who brought me ficha drinks for girls I ficha'd 1 $, gave robe guy 1 $ always, sometimes meseros who helped girls I told them I wanted from strip / pole dancers I gave them 1 $ after they got me girl, etc, tipped few quarters / change if cook brought me food box / bag order at Azul as I waited for order, usual tip was that. Next time I will tip reception also or buy pack of lube at times, as I noticed reception a bit negative at times when I was going up alot, guess many dudes despite having rooms still tip them.

Ease & safety, caliber experience, comparison to my previous 10+yrs hobby experience in US with top escort HX / online girls (I've seen pornstars like Summer Bailey, Nilah Summers, had greek, rimmed them etc, past days of myredbook / BP, seen many Caucasian early 20's spinners, sessioned in VIP rooms in US stripclubs for 200 usd shortime all over socal) make the score for HK and my first Tijuana flex: -- 8 out 10 for monger / hobby quality experience, girls were on average par as good as the best PSEs and shortimes I've had here, sessions were on average as good or better than best I've experienced here. But with that in mind, the instances like #4 where I was quoted a high180 (near / avg what many classified online US escorts charge for incall HR) for HR (and many HK girls did make it explicit to me when I asked about 2 pops or MSOG as option, they always repeated "each additional pop is +80", same as some kept the also routine it seems "each arriba / time we go up it's 30 min" I have researched a lot and decided I will try HK and Tijuana again definitely sooner than later, but:

Budget for this trip: 2.3 k near 2.5 k for 5 night Tijuana flex 19 girls, mostly HK girls, some escorts and SG, I will consider the following and more as next options & budget accordingly, till then I'll share more here on the other boards:

-Panama City, Panama: Habano's Cafe as groundzero for action and Eurostars Casino as hotel to stay and the stripclubs in the Casco Viejo / Antiguo area like La Mayor and Boca Torena shortime brothels (12 minutes-15 minutes is less than 20 $, FS, girls are hot, many Venezuelans, Colombians, Panamanians), & I have read, am astounded by what I'm learning about how the caliber of girls at Habano's Cafe, seems on Thurs-weekends it can be as many as 100+ hot stunner Venezuelans and Colombians, seems many start quoting 200 and hour, but rtft I learned many accept 100,120-150, but they offer HR (instead of the 30 min seems HK girls stick to trying for 100), and seems since things always kick off at 10-11 pm and end at 3 am-4 am, most girls are open to do all night / TLN for few hundred more or if you get their number / collect numbers from girls for daytime meetups at Habanos or high end strip clubs like LE Palace, they usually will offer you action at 100 range since daytime action is slow. Casco Antiguo stripclubs for daytime action, Habano's for nightime stunners. So price wise it can be as cheap as Tijuana, USD is used in Panama, so same as Tijuana, top tier girls will quote higher than usual HK or Tijuana BG but seems Habano's caliber girls are uber hot, and short time is 1 HR and not 30 min as most HK girls offer per session, also an issue is the chica fees (which can be around 50 or more per girl), but I plan on booking each day individually if possible, but this seems to make Panama City expensive, but seems the Habano's as ground zero plan and Eurostars is a good plan, just higher than Tijuana budget wise+cost of flight (some flights can be had for near 300 usd roundtrip). A member on that board called it best P4 P spot in the world, hottest girls from central and s. America, I'm intrigued.

-Medellin, Colombia, seems like the best option for hobbyng, Tijuana was my first, but RTFF, Colombia, Medellin & Cartagena seems like great options. Seems 100 USD gets you all night TLN there (in Medellin),& shortime on avg 30-50 usd, Face Dos, La Isla Club, Luna Lunera seems to be HK type stripclubs, some reviews I've found even compare them to HK, many say its better, 50-60 usd HR, shorttime room onsite, girl can be outcall with takeout fee to place less than 120 total usd All night or few hours, have read better nering closing time. Seems $ goes takes you further in Colombia, lots other options, and many Venezuelans there. Tons to learn and seems challenging also, lots tinder, facebook, latinamericancupid options that give you free and allnite for 100 or not much more.

-Peru and Dominican Republic: same as Colombia as far as value, DR has Puerto Plata area with Blackbeard's Resort (Hotel La Manison aka Casa Blanca aka M1 also is similar in Colombia) that seems as easy as HK, you can take girls from outside there also and Blackbeards aka Barba Negra usually has 15+ girls on site, and read its 40-50 that rotate or can be scheduled, diff set up but seems one I will try if I got to DR. All niter is around 120 usd there, 3 somes also around that range, short time is around 40 usd, lots value, lots tinder, latinamcupid action also. Peru is cool, in what I learned, Lima has many "chongos", you have to read up on those, tons info, Las Sirenitas, Las Cucardas (30 soles cover to enter they give you condom,9 usd, shorttime is less than 80 soles (20-30 usd), Geisha niteclub, all seems fun among others, search youtube for "Bomba Sexy Cucardas", seems like inside its stripclub, bar and rooms onsite that each girls hosts Amsterdam style, instead its not windows but you walk by their rooms, its 2-3 floors of rooms, lots Venezuelans, Ecuadorians, Colombians, peruvians, 6 to 8's. Will definitely go, but contemplating on where to go next, Tijuana & HK were a great first intro to the hobby internationally. Will share on here on other boards as I go, best regards.

Barcelona (La Vie Rose seems like legit club) and Los Angeles City among few others are notable mentions in my future desirable monger trips. Costa Rica lastly also for Hotel Del Rey, Sportsmen Lodge, seems lots Tijuana value comparable to HK girls is available there in abundance just the scene is different, and mostly Colombians, Venezuelans and some Dominicans, price wise most similar to Tijuana but no USD used as much. Colombia, DR, Peru (no USD used) all seem half the budget, chica fees may be issue in some spots, needs lot research before going also. Panama City seems quality wise great but chica fees and high prices make it YMMV though, Habano's Cafe seems amazing.

Dcg69.

[Dcrist0527]

This difference is purely your own decision on what is worth arguing about. For you, $10-20 is no big deal but $50-100 is. For other guys, $50-100 may not be worth bothering with. For other guys, $10-20 makes a difference. For some guys, it's the principle rather than the dollar amount. If I negotiate $60 and she says "Oh, now it's $80," I'm done with her even if I would have paid $80 to begin with.

Every guy should decide for himself what he is willing to put up with and where he draws the line.I agree, we all have our own budget. And you make a great point about everyone should decide their own line in the sand. But I don't follow your logic on the $60/$80 negotiation. If you enter a negotiation willing to pay $80, and she offers $80, how do you win by turning her down? Because of her negotiating tactics? I suppose I understand that principle. And yes, she lost out on the money. Maybe there is a lesson for her. But you also lost out on the experience. It sounds to me like you are as interested in winning on principle vs the big picture of the experience. That is not in any way meant as a criticism. I would approach it differently. My thought is that I was attracted to her enough to enter a negotiation. I want her. And she's going to meet my budget? Game on. LOL.

Again, I respect what you are saying and doing. But that is the $10 haggling that I feel ruins the experience. For me.

[SenorTJ]

14) hung out in my room going over budget / what do to next, rested and ate etc, went to HK back around 11 pm, HK was amazing this Wed night, over 120+ girls all over the place, it was really all flavors and types of girls, standing, sitting all over, pole dancing, so much I felt at ease just walking (was crowded and lots guys, still many girls so was worth being in the not too bad sausage fest), meseros / staff only was telling people to keep walking since tons people were all over. I was roaming as the Hunter from Sun. Night (read #2) poked me on my back as I was mid area in HK first floor, it was the. The late 20's, early30's bubble butt hunter, style like pornstar Aurora Jolie aka Nikara in her prime anal scenes, I had told I would only see her if she gave me grk / anal, since she hunted me right there on spot, I said 100 and with anal right now, she said why anal, I responded none of these girls will give me, so you want 100 now lets go, and I got it. Hell yeah, it was awesome, we already had met and she made it way easier and didn't push bk to my negotiation, she didn't take long getting ready lubed up in her sweet bubble butt, rock hard I went to town her belly on bed position laying flat, me on top pumping, good sesh,100 usd short time greek, not bad. She asked for tip. I said no way LOL. She asked for drink from minibar, I said no. But told her I'd definitely wanted grk from her any time if I saw her again. Hoping I see her again or work out another spur of the moment grk again. Guys on here ask if HK girls do grk, there's an example.

Dcg69.Damn that was a novel. My fave part was 14. Good negotiation.

[Nothing24]

Dcgamer I appreciate your detailed report as it helped pass along some time here at work but damn man you overpaid like a motherfu*ker. And 19 girls and no 3 somes? Wtf LOL.

2.5 k for 6 days? That's crazy but hey if you had fun it's your money.

[DcGamer69]

Dcgamer I appreciate your detailed report as it helped pass along some time here at work but damn man you overpaid like a motherfu*ker. And 19 girls and no 3 somes? Wtf LOL.

2.5 k for 6 days?Appreciate you enjoyed report, tried to be as detailed as possible for those awesome 5 nites /6 days, 19 girls /1st stay in HK / Cascadas was fun, lot dudes spend 200 on ea girl & tons fichas, buying them food, & VIP rm before even taking girls up, I skipped all that by rtff, seen reports on here people claiming to be repeat visitors spending 1.5- 2 k on trip only taking up 10-12 girls whole trip & dudes congratulate them, kept it minimum spending mainly on arribas, used VIPcard 20-80%off, spent little on tips, food 8 $ a day (waffles, empanadas), didn't ficha most girls that HK staff bugged me at times, but ALL girls quoted 100,except 1,escorts also better value, HK quality was superb however. Best to approach w / amount & negotiate, didn't do that as 1st timer only setback in my opinion, Was not looking for trios as likely would've overpaid (near 200) for rushed session & my objective was to try as many girls at my pace since it was 1st monger trip, feel I succeeded 19 girls total, 20 would've been better LOL. Stuck to HK since accommodations made it smooth, I was solo this trip, came alone also, kept to myself to avoid issues as 1st timer, Considering doing more nxt time / more bars / sgs and going Medellin for more fun etc,. Tijuana seems awesome for ST / Shortime action for few days / epic fun. Understandingly, was 1st monger trip, had amazing fun, 19 girls seems better than reports where dudes spend more for less, read many. As a newb I feel I got lots bang, value YMMV.

As for the budget.

I was quoted 100 by most, negotiating would have saved me around 20 per arriba, I saw 19 girls & am not complaining, got 2-3 pops from many, 19 arribas, I ficha'd less than 5 of them, no spending 100's on drinks like many on whole trip (which is what many complain about Tijuana, the cost of barfines and fichas). I will give less when they don't push bk next time definitely however, and do some repeats to get more value.

Props to the board as I learned best info from the best, rtft, solid advice, looking fwd future visits.

I may decide all threesomes or a few next time since you mention it, that would be epic (with a good budget however, as threesomes seem bad value wise) definitely will negotiate like a MF'er again, experience is required & you only learn by going, I liked my first flex in Tijuana tons, respects & salutes to the hobby.

Dcg69.

[OrganicAlo]

Dcgamer I appreciate your detailed report as it helped pass along some time here at work but damn man you overpaid like a motherfu*ker. And 19 girls and no 3 somes? Wtf LOL.

2.5 k for 6 days? That's crazy but hey if you had fun it's your money.Shit, he did pretty good only 2. 5 k in 6 days. I have a friend whose gone down twice with me now, and he doesn't control himself good when he's boozed up. Both times he has managed to spend 2 k in a single night. More than likely, robbed by chicas / meseros both times, but there's only so much I can do once I crash at 2-3 am and he stays up the whole night.

[Goyo61]

Senor,

Never heard that expression before. "Bubble Butt Hunter". What a riot. Perty funny. Enjoyed the report. I never heard it being crazy on a Wednesday. When the place is packed it's a little too crazy for me but I think I need to experience it again.

May go down this Sunday afternoon for a little fun. If anyone else is heading down and want to say hio let me know.

Goyo.


Damn that was a novel. My fave part was 14. Good negotiation.

[Goyo61]

Holy shit Dcg! Quite a trip down to HK.

Enjoyed the read. Any details on redbook / BP. What is that?

I was in Costa Rica couple months ago. Stayed at Del Rey. Had fun with a couple girls who were Beautiful for $80 each. I didn't make it to other clubs around San Jose and Del Rey is just casino / bar / hotel so it doesn't have the Wonderful ambiance of HK and Zona Norte but. Many girls and wonderful memories.

Goyo.


I'm a user with similar handle ( 50+ reports on USA), took break from hobbying around time myredbook / BP were booming, prior had only took stroll in Tijuana zona area for beer with college buddies after crossing from SD, having only tried a less than memorable 20 usd SG in st motel.

Decided to make 1st Tijuana flex,1st monger / hobby experience in la zona this past Oct 5-10,crossed via car, associate drove me via car left around late 12 pm arrived late 2 pm from LA, driver crossed back via car with plan of me getting HK limo / driver to drop me off to cross back via foot pedwest, was dropped off in front of HK / Cascadas on Coahuila Street (the side of the strip with Adelitas, HK and with Club Tropical across street), had done appropriate RTFT research on here, studied notes,1st I did was go straight into Cascadas entrance next to HK, in line check-in with my target being Hotel Cascadas check in 3 pm / check-out 1 pm time frame, got VIP Card, reception was OK with it, applied 20% for Sun, Thu & 80% for Mon / Tue,250 usd, made reservations around 2-3 wk prior.

[KC Questor]

But I don't follow your logic on the $60/$80 negotiation. If you enter a negotiation willing to pay $80, and she offers $80, how do you win by turning her down? Because of her negotiating tactics? I suppose I understand that principle. And yes, she lost out on the money. Maybe there is a lesson for her. But you also lost out on the experience. It sounds to me like you are as interested in winning on principle vs the big picture of the experience.If we had previously agreed on $60 and she changes the terms of the deal, then I don't want anything to do with her. Had she insisted on $80 in advance I probably would have said OK. But by agreeing to $60 and then refusing to honor her side of the bargain, she has shown herself to be untrustworthy. I want to deal with honest hookers. What else will she change about the agreement? Will she decide that she won't BBBJ as agreed? Will she decide that time is up after 15 minutes?

[Nothing24]

Appreciate you enjoyed report, tried to be as detailed as possible for those awesome 5 nites /6 days, 19 girls /1st stay in HK / Cascadas was fun, lot dudes spend 200 on ea girl & tons fichas, buying them food, & VIP rm before even taking girls up, I skipped all that by rtff, seen reports on here people claiming to be repeat visitors spending 1.5- 2 k on trip only taking up 10-12 girls whole trip & dudes congratulate them, kept it minimum spending mainly on arribas, used VIPcard 20-80%off, spent little on tips, food 8 $ a day (waffles, empanadas), didn't ficha most girls that HK staff bugged me at times, but ALL girls quoted 100,except 1,escorts also better value, HK quality was superb however. Best to approach w / amount & negotiate, didn't do that as 1st timer only setback in my opinion, Was not looking for trios as likely would've overpaid (near 200) for rushed session & my objective was to try as many girls at my pace since it was 1st monger trip, feel I succeeded 19 girls total, 20 would've been better LOL. Stuck to HK since accommodations made it smooth, I was solo this trip, came alone also, kept to myself to avoid issues as 1st timer, Considering doing more nxt time / more bars / sgs and going Medellin for more fun etc,. Tijuana seems awesome for ST / Shortime action for few days / epic fun. Understandingly, was 1st monger trip, had amazing fun, 19 girls seems better than reports where dudes spend more for less, read many. As a newb I feel I got lots bang, value YMMV.

As for the budget.

I was quoted 100 by most, negotiating would have saved me around 20 per arriba, I saw 19 girls & am not complaining, got 2-3 pops from many, 19 arribas, I ficha'd less than 5 of them, no spending 100's on drinks like many on whole trip (which is what many complain about Tijuana, the cost of barfines and fichas). I will give less when they don't push bk next time definitely however, and do some repeats to get more value.

Props to the board as I learned best info from the best, rtft, solid advice, looking fwd future visits.

I may decide all threesomes or a few next time since you mention it, that would be epic (with a good budget however, as threesomes seem bad value wise) definitely will negotiate like a MF'er again, experience is required & you only learn by going, I liked my first flex in Tijuana tons, respects & salutes to the hobby.

Dcg69.I'm still trying to figure out what that mesero was doing following you to your room. I would have cussed him the f out. Should've complained to management.

[Dcrist0527]

If we had previously agreed on $60 and she changes the terms of the deal, then I don't want anything to do with her. Had she insisted on $80 in advance I probably would have said OK. But by agreeing to $60 and then refusing to honor her side of the bargain, she has shown herself to be untrustworthy. I want to deal with honest hookers. What else will she change about the agreement? Will she decide that she won't BBBJ as agreed? Will she decide that time is up after 15 minutes?My bad. I read it differently. Or just plain misread it. LOL I missed the part about initially agreeing to $60. In that case, I completely agree. We would not get away with playing less after an agreement, nor should she increase the rate. My apologies.

[Dogers69]

Its interesting to see that hk staff is more concerned with chica drinks than sex with chicas. I often worry that I'll get in trouble for a 11 dollar hotel room and not have any sex. I thought hk would be getting some of the sex money. So they only get ficha money. Well the waiters anyway. It's always going to be something with the waiters, there's one guy, who I know to stay away from especially if I don't have a drink in my hand. I went in the morning on a Saturday it must of been 30 waiters, 20 girls, 30 customers. It's just a sea of maseros. The rest of the staff is more professional, security, the VIP card guy, the bouncer guy who Pat's you down. These guys are all high quality but the waiters and limo are like free lancers. They don't seem to be working for HK.

[ScottHall]

Dcgamer I appreciate your detailed report as it helped pass along some time here at work but damn man you overpaid like a motherfu*ker. And 19 girls and no 3 somes? Wtf LOL.

2.5 k for 6 days? That's crazy but hey if you had fun it's your money.Maybe not. It seems like all of his sessions were non rushed or negotiated close to an hour since he had his own room. And factor in the extras like multiple pops and anal that he was able to negotiate a couple times. 2.5 k is a chunk of cash sure. But over the course of 6 days and 19 girls, it's nothing. Standard spending.

[Goyo61]

One of the girls I love from HK wasn't working that day but she was nice enough to meet me for a session at Cascadas. I have never done it before but asked for an hour and it was only a few more bucks. I like the red lights of the rooms etc. It was so nice being able to take the extra time with her, take a shower together. I had some nice EDM music on my phone I put on to have a little ambiance.

Still dumped a good amount of money in HK with lap dances and drinks for ladies.

May do an hour again with other ladies as it was a nice touch.

[BrotherMouzone]

Quick question. So why does Hong Kong not serve Coronas? Does Tropical Bar also not serve Corona (I don't frequent Tropical so don't know for sure)? That's always been a minor pet peeve of mine and one of the reasons I still make it a point to hang out in Adelita's from time to time LOL.

[Phordphan]

Quick question. So why does Hong Kong not serve Coronas? Does Tropical Bar also not serve Corona (I don't frequent Tropical so don't know for sure)? That's always been a minor pet peeve of mine and one of the reasons I still make it a point to hang out in Adelita's from time to time LOL.According to Mexicans I know, Corona was long considered a rather low-class beer. In my travels around Mexico I've noticed its availability seems to be more "regional." To me it seems that the Grupo Modelo beers are more popular in the central and southern states. The FEMSA brands more popular in the north. I think Pacifico is the exception. IMO, its immense popularity among the gringos is due primarily to a brilliant marketing campaign. Now Corona is presented as a premium beer. Much the same happened with Miller Lite, which is truly shit beer. But the "Less Filling... Tastes Great..." campaign worked wonders.

More to your point, HK probably has some sort of contract with their FEMSA distributor. But that's just a guess.

BTW, HK would serve donkey piss if they thought they could get away with it.

[ChinaMan360]

Its interesting to see that hk staff is more concerned with chica drinks than sex with chicas. I often worry that I'll get in trouble for a 11 dollar hotel room and not have any sex. I thought hk would be getting some of the sex money. So they only get ficha money. Well the waiters anyway. It's always going to be something with the waiters, there's one guy, who I know to stay away from especially if I don't have a drink in my hand. I went in the morning on a Saturday it must of been 30 waiters, 20 girls, 30 customers. It's just a sea of maseros. The rest of the staff is more professional, security, the VIP card guy, the bouncer guy who Pat's you down. These guys are all high quality but the waiters and limo are like free lancers. They don't seem to be working for HK.I don't understand why HK has so many meseros. They should copy US strip club model.

[TomJackin]

BTW, HK would serve donkey piss if they thought they could get away with it.They already serve it in the form of a tequila ficha!

[Skippydippy]

Hi guys,

My friend wanted me to ask some questions before we go.

1) how safe is it to cross the border into mexico? Any problems because of trump? How safe is it to come back in? Is it safe as long as you have a valid passport?

2) how much are hk girls charging now? It used to be $80 which you could negotiate down to $50 to $60 depending on a few factors. Is that still the case, or have they raised their prices?

3) are street girls standing behind hk just as safe / unsafe as hk girls, in terms of catching STDs? A Mexican friend recommended that I avoid them. He said "would you rather eat from a sushi stand on the street or an official sushi restaurant?" of course, official restaurant because they are less likely to be dirty and cause food poisoning. I figure with hk girls there is some oversight in terms of std checks but the street girls can just fake a health card and I would never know?

4) if we are not staying overnight, is it better to rent a room for like $70 (last time I checked it was this much per night) or pay $20 every time you * I also heard there is a hotel that costs like $3?

5) how about avoiding HK altogether and visiting Adelitas? My goal is to get laid and I don't want to spend unnecessarily. I heard Adelitas is cheaper both in terms of the girl's rate and hotel's rate?

[StRobert]

According to Mexicans I know, Corona was long considered a rather low-class beer. In my travels around Mexico I've noticed its availability seems to be more "regional." To me it seems that the Grupo Modelo beers are more popular in the central and southern states. The FEMSA brands more popular in the north. I think Pacifico is the exception. IMO, its immense popularity among the gringos is due primarily to a brilliant marketing campaign. Now Corona is presented as a premium beer. Much the same happened with Miller Lite, which is truly shit beer. But the "Less Filling... Tastes Great..." campaign worked wonders.

More to your point, HK probably has some sort of contract with their FEMSA distributor. But that's just a guess.

BTW, HK would serve donkey piss if they thought they could get away with it.In the club Hong Kong, you can also order Heineken bottled in the Netherlands or Amstel light (in Mexico Amstel Ultra) licensed and bottled in Mexico. (both beers $ 5).

[Phordphan]

In the club Hong Kong, you can also order Heineken bottled in the Netherlands or Amstel light (in Mexico Amstel Ultra) licensed and bottled in Mexico. (both beers $ 5).Are you sure the Heineken is brewed in the Netherlands? They have production facilities in Mexico.

[Aviator400]

Are you sure the Heineken is brewed in the Netherlands? They have production facilities in Mexico.When in Holland, a Dutch friend was quick to point out that Heineken is a Dutch beer.

That said, it might be that it is brewed in Holland and shipped to Mexico in bulk, but I am just guessing.

I know that Guinness has at least five facilities around Ireland that each brew their version a little differently.

And Coca Cola ships from one location, different formulas for different countries.

[Dogers69]

Hi guys,

My friend wanted me to ask some questions before we go.

1) how safe is it to cross the border into mexico? Any problems because of trump? How safe is it to come back in? Is it safe as long as you have a valid passport?

2) how much are hk girls charging now? It used to be $80 which you could negotiate down to $50 to $60 depending on a few factors. Is that still the case, or have they raised their prices?

3) are street girls standing behind hk just as safe / unsafe as hk girls, in terms of catching STDs? A Mexican friend recommended that I avoid them. He said "would you rather eat from a sushi stand on the street or an official sushi restaurant?" of course, official restaurant because they are less likely to be dirty and cause food poisoning.If you are scared of Mexico, just tip everyone ten bucks so they don't kidnap you haha.

Here's the thing, if you are a gringo man walking across the border many people assume your going to Hong Kong, especially if you walk across with another dude. So don't walk anyplace when you walk into Mexico. Get in a taxi since you will be to new to start navigating uber issues. Once in Hong Kong they love gringos. It's probably 75% non Mexicans. I've had guns drawn on me in my hotel room at HK, by someone or some group or some form of law enforcement. But they didn't shoot me so it's not so bad. The only dangers is outside of Hong Kong. Walking around. I've only been assaulted mugged once and I've walked around probably 100 different days. I've also walked fastly away from people and jumped into stores for safety a few times. To travel all the way to HK to just have sex and go home. Is missing what I consider the more exciting part of Tijuana, the streets, the regular woman, regular clubs. Of course I run into problems with people who don't like gringos but just words so far from them.

And the price is top girls 100, rest say 100 settle for 80. A monger showed me a hot 10 type of girl who did him for 80 but he said it was in the morning. So probably before 2 pm you can bang the hottie for 80. Then they cost 100.120. Those are those girls who are beautiful make the rest look terrible.

[JH 1001]

Are you sure the Heineken is brewed in the Netherlands? They have production facilities in Mexico.Different breweries, especially the giant macro-breweries, will farm out contracts to other facilities to have their beers brewed &/ or bottled &/ or distributed at a more localized level for that given market. For example, Stella Artois, which is owned by AB In-Bev (AB standing for Anheuser Busch), will often come right out of an Anheuser Busch plant, like the giant one off of the 405 freeway in LOS Angeles.

Tecate is now owned by Heineken International. I guarantee that the Tecate plants in Mexico are brewing &/ or bottling &/ or distributing Heineken locally within Mexico.

Can someone distribute a 6 pack directly to me, please?

[Diglerni]

I know this is the HK forum, but it's active so I'm asking here. Anyone check out Deja Vu recently? I went when it first opened years ago and it was dead. Wondering if it's picked up at all and of you can do the same as HK? Thank you for feedback.

[KC Questor]

I don't understand why HK has so many meseros. They should copy US strip club model.Meseros pay to work there. There's no reason for HK to limit how many work there.

[KC Questor]

1) how safe is it to cross the border into mexico? Any problems because of trump? How safe is it to come back in? Is it safe as long as you have a valid passport?It's safe as long as you don't get drunk and act like an idiot. Stay near the clubs and don't wander into dark alleys.


2) how much are hk girls charging now? It used to be $80 which you could negotiate down to $50 to $60 depending on a few factors. Is that still the case, or have they raised their prices?Top girls or at busy times they are starting at $100 but will take $80. Lower tier girls at slower times will ask $80 and occasionally accept $60.


3) are street girls standing behind hk just as safe / unsafe as hk girls, in terms of catching STDs? A Mexican friend recommended that I avoid them. He said "would you rather eat from a sushi stand on the street or an official sushi restaurant?" of course, official restaurant because they are less likely to be dirty and cause food poisoning. I figure with hk girls there is some oversight in terms of std checks but the street girls can just fake a health card and I would never know?I think street girls are actually safer, as they are checked often for health cards. I don't know that HK ever checks or even requires health cards. I've had far more HK girls offer bare sessions, including BBFS. Street girls usually won't even BBBJ.

As far as that sushi restaurant analogy: Would you rather eat the day's catch right off the boat, or fish that had been shipped to to a warehouse and then sold to a restaurant and put on the regular everyday menu?


4) if we are not staying overnight, is it better to rent a room for like $70 (last time I checked it was this much per night) or pay $20 every time you * I also heard there is a hotel that costs like $3?The $3 hotels are the ones the street girls go to. That's for 15 minutes. Rooms at Hong Kong is $19 for half an hour. So if you plan to fuck three or four girls from the same bar, you might as well get the room for the full night.


5) how about avoiding HK altogether and visiting Adelitas? My goal is to get laid and I don't want to spend unnecessarily. I heard Adelitas is cheaper both in terms of the girl's rate and hotel's rate?Adelita is not much cheaper than Hong Kong. The girls will ask $80 and accept $60-70. They tend to be heavier than HK girls, but some guys like the curves. Chicago Club is nice too. Go to the other bars and check them out. It's a shame to stick to one club -- unless you have a room there and only want HK girls, there's no reason not to sample from the full plate.

[ChinaMan360]

Meseros pay to work there. There's no reason for HK to limit how many work there.Oh, I didn't know that. Dumb question on my part then. Still, I think there's too many meseros.

[BoldBoy88]

Brethren,

I am planning to visit HK and willing to cross border on foot and get a cab.

Can you give me some pointers on.

1. Is it advised to carry a bag with clothes, lube and condoms? Or should I travel light like no bag nothing and buy somewhere near HK?

2. Since I am crossing on foot, which cab should I take? Like something that lands me at HK without any BS or anything? Any signs or some sort?

3. Do you think I will find fellow brothers someone going to Tijuana all the time? So that I can get in with them?

I want to have fuckfest in HK. Like PSE level fun.

If I choose a BG for hour, can I extend for more than hour if I like her?

Any tips pre carrying stuff. How to deal with BGs to get PSE level session what to ask etc? My Spanish is shit. So any tips is appreciated. I want to have like mingboggling no constraints session with an exception of BBFS. Uhm please don't hate me for this question.

I know these are lots of questions and some might sound vague. But your patience and comments will help the boy enjoy his trip.

Can't wait to hear, can't wait to explore. Can't wait to post my FR.

Lots of love.

Boldboy.

[Diglerni]

Brethren,

I am planning to visit HK and willing to cross border on foot and get a cab.

Can you give me some pointers on.

1. Is it advised to carry a bag with clothes, lube and condoms? Or should I travel light like no bag nothing and buy somewhere near HK?

2. Since I am crossing on foot, which cab should I take? Like something that lands me at HK without any BS or anything? Any signs or some sort?

3. Do you think I will find fellow brothers someone going to Tijuana all the time? So that I can get in with them?.Maybe it's because I live in San Diego and go to HK all the time, I think it's funny how people worry about crossing the border. As many have mentioned before, as long as you don't act like a idiot, crossing and getting to HK is super easy. There are 2 main border crossings, I prefer the one by Jack in the box (cheaper parking).

Go through Mexican passport check. Follow all the people toward the pick up spot. Trust me there will be plenty of people walking in the same direction as you, so no need to worry about safety. If you feel uncomfortable going in alone, wait at the Mexican entry point for a group of Americans going in and join them walking in. There will be plenty of people going. Don't hesitate to ask if they are going to HK, typically most of them are. If you go solo just walk behind a group. I would skip the cab drivers, HK has a free limo bus at the end of the walkway to the right and most likely a driver waiting to ask you if you are going to HK. Tip what you feel is best, I give 5 bucks.

As far as a bag, unless you are staying in Tijuana overnight there is no need. You can bring condoms or they have them when you go upstairs with the girl. If you do have a bag it will be run through a scanner in Mexico, so don't be foolish bringing in something that shouldn't be there.

Have fun and don't make much of it in terms of fear. I was the same way going in my first time and I was with a large group. Now I cruise down there by myself from time to time. Tip. Girls will always start out at 100-120 but most will take 80 to go upstairs. If they don't, move onto the next one. On Fridays and Saturdays there will be more than enough girls to choose from. Speaking of that, make sure you do a few laps around the place to see all that is there. There are girls upstairs sometimes that you might miss if you don't.

[Phordphan]

Different breweries, especially the giant macro-breweries, will farm out contracts to other facilities to have their beers brewed &/ or bottled &/ or distributed at a more localized level for that given market. For example, Stella Artois, which is owned by AB In-Bev (AB standing for Anheuser Busch), will often come right out of an Anheuser Busch plant, like the giant one off of the 405 freeway in LOS Angeles.

Tecate is now owned by Heineken International. I guarantee that the Tecate plants in Mexico are brewing &/ or bottling &/ or distributing Heineken locally within Mexico.

Can someone distribute a 6 pack directly to me, please?That was the reason for my initial question. Heineken is brewed under license all over the world. The best tasting Heineken I ever had was in Sint Maarten, years ago. I *think* at that time it was imported from The Netherlands, being an ex-colony. The Heinie brewed in Thailand is crap. The stuff in the USA isn't all that much better, IMHO. Anyway, I was skeptical that HK would pay the extra price to have an genuine imported premium beer on their menu.

[Member #4722]

Go through Mexican passport check. Follow all the people toward the pick up spot. Trust me there will be plenty of people walking in the same direction as you, so no need to worry about safety. If you feel uncomfortable going in alone, wait at the Mexican entry point for a group of Americans going in and join them walking in. There will be plenty of people going. Don't hesitate to ask if they are going to HK, typically most of them are. If you go solo just walk behind a group.I disagree. I would say never mention the red light district when going through the border check point. Why invite any extra scrutiny upon yourself if any Mexican customs officials overhear your conversation. I just always say I'm going to the casino. One of my last trips a bunch of drunk guys were going on and on about Hong Kong while waiting in line and some guy was talking Trump this and Trump that loudly. Was kind of cringeworthy and a few of the guys got sent to secondary inspection.

[DramaFree11]

Maybe it's because I live in San Diego and go to HK all the time, I think it's funny how people worry about crossing the border. As many have mentioned before, as long as you don't act like a idiot, crossing and getting to HK is super easy. There are 2 main border crossings, I prefer the one by Jack in the box (cheaper parking).

Go through Mexican passport check. Follow all the people toward the pick up spot. Trust me there will be plenty of people walking in the same direction as you, so no need to worry about safety. If you feel uncomfortable going in alone, wait at the Mexican entry point for a group of Americans going in and join them walking in. There will be plenty of people going. Don't hesitate to ask if they are going to HK, typically most of them are. If you go solo just walk behind a group. I would skip the cab drivers, HK has a free limo bus at the end of the walkway to the right and most likely a driver waiting to ask you if you are going to HK. Tip what you feel is best, I give 5 bucks.

As far as a bag, unless you are staying in Tijuana overnight there is no need. You can bring condoms or they have them when you go upstairs with the girl. If you do have a bag it will be run through a scanner in Mexico, so don't be foolish bringing in something that shouldn't be there.Great report, very informative.

[Zdaman101]

Just got in yesterday and noticed it is slower than normal on the street. I guess the temp in the 50's is keeping the girls away. Stopped in multiple bars last night and didn't see the numbers I typically have seen over my last three trips (granted at different times of the year). Anyone else in town and want to meetup for a drink / food? Shoot me a DM.

[Theo TheMonger]

Goddamned Impressive!

Wow! I am in awe here. There's got to be annual Monger Awards somewhere here (Jackson are you listening?) for Best Monger Outing and Best Monger Report, and this has to win both, hands down, no? I love all the detail and the color.

Just fantastic work here. Thank you.

BTW I agree with comments of others here: I would absolutely go for the threesome, have a fourgie, early and often. If some's good, more's better.


I'm a user with similar handle ( 50+ reports on USA), took break from hobbying around time myredbook / BP were booming, prior had only took stroll in Tijuana zona area for beer with college buddies after crossing from SD, having only tried a less than memorable 20 usd SG in st motel.

Decided to make 1st Tijuana flex,1st monger / hobby experience in la zona this past Oct 5-10,crossed via car, associate drove me via car left around late 12 pm arrived late 2 pm from LA, driver crossed back via car with plan of me getting HK limo / driver to drop me off to cross back via foot pedwest, was dropped off in front of HK / Cascadas on Coahuila Street (the side of the strip with Adelitas, HK and with Club Tropical across street), had done appropriate RTFT research on here, studied notes,1st I did was go straight into Cascadas entrance next to HK, in line check-in with my target being Hotel Cascadas check in 3 pm / check-out 1 pm time frame, got VIP Card, reception was OK with it, applied 20% for Sun, Thu & 80% for Mon / Tue,250 usd, made reservations around 2-3 wk prior.

Check-in took 30 min,4 pm I had settled in rm after staff finished, provided all sheets / towels & helped setup safe code, tipped initially in quarters as I had change in clothing to staff that helped me into my room, got Master Suite, planned initially 4 nights Sun check in / Thursday out (later extended 1 d), rm was in 300's,3rd FL, I vaped & medicated with hash. Oil / cannab..

[Theo TheMonger]

Hi all,

Long time monger here, recently transplanted to Southern Cali from the east coast.

A quick questions about Tijuana if I may:

1) I am flying into SD. Never been south of the border. Is there a best avenue of approach to get into Tijuana?

Most critically, coming back into the US, is there a place to cross the border where I can avoid long lines and delays?

I am planning on getting into an Uber once I get off the airplane, heading right to the HK, then Ubering back. (I don't want to rely on HK transport for my first outing).

Any and all help, color and detail you guys can provide, is truly greatly appreciated. I promise to provide detailed colorful reports.

[Captain Solo]

Tuesday night I was walking through Chavelas. There were less than 10 girls, most were chunky, heavy type, but found 2 hot skinny spinners. Estafanie had a pretty and expressive face of a movie star, high cheek bone, full sexy lips. I was so impressed by her pretty face and her lanky body that I skipped my assets squeezing routine and went straight to making my standard offer, which she quickly agreed. We headed to my room in Cascada. I was squeezing her boob and her butt. They all felt real.

I offered her a Tequila shot but she declined, took a couple sips from a Tecate beer. She said she was 25. Out of her clothes, her body was lean and soft, not tight and toned like girls; her boobs pointy and slightly droopy, smooth skin, no tats. I asked her to lay down so I could gently caress her body and her tiny mound. She asked me to wash my hands before I proceeded. She only allowed lip kissing, no DFK. Her beauty and classy manners really turned me on. I got an instant hard on with her beautiful body and her pretty face, sucking on her tits, caressing her clit then inserting my middle finger deeply inside her vagina to rub and claw on her G spot. She liked that a lot, sighing, hissing, her crotch bucking, her body stiffened, her pussy got very sticky and wet. I gave her a very long treatment of her G spot. She kept moaning and sighing, like her pleasure kept coming on and never stopped.

She gave me a strong CBJ. I already had a raging hardon so asked her to get on top. She gave me a hard CG, ramming down on my dick, moaning, hissing with pleasure. I turned her to doggie. She was moaning harder. I wanted to look at her pretty face so asked her to lie down for mish. She acted like a horny GF who wanted sex badly, pulled me down on top of her. Her pussy was wet and snug. I was ramming her hard. It was incredible pleasure plunging into her wet pussy, kissing her sexy lips, watching her pretty face contorted in pleasure. She was moaning, screaming pretty loud. I took a couple breaks, tried to prolong the pleasure for both of us. She was totally engaging in sex and enjoying herself like a GF. I got a very close intimacy with her very rare with other girls. She was 1 of the 3 girls I did that night, but blew a large load for her.

Got her tel. She works every night except Monday. Would recommend and repeat with her.

[Dogers69]

Just got in yesterday and noticed it is slower than normal on the street. I guess the temp in the 50's is keeping the girls away. Stopped in multiple bars last night and didn't see the numbers I typically have seen over my last three trips (granted at different times of the year). Anyone else in town and want to meetup for a drink / food? Shoot me a DM.Yeah hk was certainly quieter Tuesday compared to a Tuesday in the summer or before up until Christmas. Got a girl a ficha as a obligation to spend money since I got a 12 dollar hotel. She wouldn't go to find a empty seat she sat at bar. Next to me. She didn't touch me once or do much of anything other than talk. So I went to sleep at that point. My fault because I normally don't buy a drink until a girl flirts for free but I wanted to spend some money before I get put on the shixx list LOL.

[Dogers69]

I realized, the back of hotel desk, which is quieter than front, they do the drink scam. I've only used the back 3 times. Once they simply gave me 29 back so if I had noticed right away I'm m sure they would say soda is missing. Since then I always make sure fridge has ten drinks. When it doesn't I make them correct it. When I left recently the guy next to me argued his way out of a beer. He was angry. And, they tried to tell me one drink was missing LOL. I explained I come often I know that it should have 10 drinks, he quickly handed me my money. I haven't had this problem in front. I understand $12 for a hotel is good deal but that's why I tip them $1 when I check in. And tip cleaning guy 2 per night. Sometimes I'll drink a soda or 2 just to show sign of good faith in terms of making money for hk hotel but these guys and the scams quite annoying.

[Diglerni]

I disagree. I would say never mention the red light district when going through the border check point. Why invite any extra scrutiny upon yourself if any Mexican customs officials overhear your conversation. I just always say I'm going to the casino. One of my last trips a bunch of drunk guys were going on and on about Hong Kong while waiting in line and some guy was talking Trump this and Trump that loudly. Was kind of cringeworthy and a few of the guys got sent to secondary inspection.Sorry. I don't think I mentioned telling the Mexican passport check you're headed to HK. Sorry if that's how it came across. I meant before he heads into Mexico if he was nervous about crossing alone.

[Tigger69]

1. Is it advised to carry a bag with clothes, lube and condoms? Or should I travel light like no bag nothing and buy somewhere near HK?
2. Since I am crossing on foot, which cab should I take? Like something that lands me at HK without any BS or anything? Any signs or some sort?
3. Do you think I will find fellow brothers someone going to Tijuana all the time? So that I can get in with them?
4. If I choose a BG for hour, can I extend for more than hour if I like her?
5. Any tips pre carrying stuff. How to deal with BGs to get PSE level session what to ask etc? My Spanish is shit. 1. Just like any other trip, it depends on how long you plan on staying. I prefer to spend the night (or two) so I get a room and pack accordingly but if you're just going down for a few hours or so I would pack as little as possible. There's a bag / coat check at the entrance but I've always thought it is a hassle to bring more than is absolutely necessary. Think about when you go clubbing with the hope of getting lucky; do you want to carry a bunch of shit around. In your fanny pack? You can buy condoms and lube at the hotel and everything else you might need within a 1-2 block radius (e. G there's an Oxxo convenience store across the street, a restaurant right in the hotel and a pharmacy a few blocks away). As mentioned, I prefer to stay overnight so I bring a lot more (condoms, lube, massage oil, change of clothes, toiletries, ear plugs (for the noise), pillow case (for hygiene), toiletries, extra cash, even more extra cash (putas are addictive), etc.) but it's really about personal preference.

2. Already answered by someone else / several others. Personal preference; I usually take a taxi but the limo and Uber are also available. RTFF.

3. Same as above.

4. If you book a room for the night you can extend for as long as you want. As long as you and the chica can come to an agreement. Otherwise you're going to get a knock on the door in 30 minutes (or less). I hate being rushed, which is another reason I book a room for the night. Just remember that a big part of the fun is sampling as many as your dick allows so, unless she's spectacular, don't get hooked (aka fall in love) with any one girl.

5. I speak enough Spanish to get by but I've always thought it would be fun to have some index cards with various things you want and / or must have w / both Spanish and English versions written on them. It will help you with your Spanish and you can even turn it into a game while you feel her out. Or up, as the case may be. Apps are another good alternative for more complex conversations.

Additional thoughts:

1. Don't overplan; a lot of the fun (especially the first time) is figuring shit out and going with the flow.

2. Don't set your expectations so high that they become unrealistic; most of the ladies are incredibly sweet but they are there to make money, not fall in love with HK virgins.

3. I've never been a fan of buying puta drinks (prefer to pick a hottie, negotiate and take her arriba) but I've started to see the value of buying her a drink first. It gives you time to make sure you have chemistry before going arriba. Yes, it's a $10 expense / investment but it's less expensive than spending $80 for a bad session (and increases the probability of a great session).

4. Trust your own instincts and do what works for you; then you only have yourself to blame!

[Dogers69]

Tuesday night I was walking through Chavelas. There were less than 10 girls, most were chunky, heavy type, but found 2 hot skinny spinners. Estafanie had a pretty and expressive face of a movie star, high cheek bone, full sexy lips. I was so impressed by her pretty face and her lanky body that I skipped my assets squeezing routine and went straight to making my standard offer, which she quickly agreed. We headed to my room in Cascada. I was squeezing her boob and her butt. They all felt real.

I offered her a Tequila shot but she declined, took a couple sips from a Tecate beer. She said she was 25. Out of her clothes, her body was lean and soft, not tight and toned like girls; her boobs pointy and slightly droopy, smooth skin, no tats. I asked her to lay down so I could gently caress her body and her tiny mound. She asked me to wash my hands before I proceeded. She only allowed lip kissing, no DFK. Her beauty and classy manners really turned me on. I got an instant hard on with her beautiful body and her pretty face, sucking on her tits, caressing her clit then inserting my middle finger deeply inside her vagina to rub and claw on her G spot. She liked that a lot, sighing, hissing, her crotch bucking, her body stiffened, her pussy got very sticky and wet. I gave her a very long treatment of her G spot. She kept moaning and sighing, like her pleasure kept coming on and never stopped.I saw a guy talk to her for 10 seconds then go upstairs Tuesday, maybe it was you. I'm surprised CBJ lip kissing can be found worthwhile. I guess a lot guys don't like the intimacy. If I'm not needing BBBJ or kissing I would just use street girls. But yeah Chevelas super dead Tuesday. Didn't see what Adelitas looked like.

[Goyo61]

Thanks Solo. Like that body.

I can't remember if Chavelas is next to HK. ? I went in there for a drink. Danced and tipped a girl for some dances and bought her a drink but didn't see any cuties like her in there but I didn't go all the way to the back of the place.

Will remember her name.

Goyo.


Tuesday night I was walking through Chavelas. There were less than 10 girls, most were chunky, heavy type, but found 2 hot skinny spinners. Estafanie had a pretty and expressive face of a movie star, high cheek bone, full sexy lips. I was so impressed by her pretty face and her lanky body that I skipped my assets squeezing routine and went straight to making my standard offer, which she quickly agreed. We headed to my room in Cascada. I was squeezing her boob and her butt. They all felt real.

I offered her a Tequila shot but she declined, took a couple sips from a Tecate beer. She said she was 25. Out of her clothes, her body was lean and soft, not tight and toned like girls; her boobs pointy and slightly droopy, smooth skin, no tats. I asked her to lay down so I could gently caress her body and her tiny mound. She asked me to wash my hands before I proceeded. She only allowed lip kissing, no DFK. Her beauty and classy manners really turned me on.

[BrotherMouzone]

I disagree. I would say never mention the red light district when going through the border check point. Why invite any extra scrutiny upon yourself if any Mexican customs officials overhear your conversation. I just always say I'm going to the casino. One of my last trips a bunch of drunk guys were going on and on about Hong Kong while waiting in line and some guy was talking Trump this and Trump that loudly. Was kind of cringeworthy and a few of the guys got sent to secondary inspection.Yeah, I've never told the customs officials I'm going to the Zona Norte brothels (I usually say I'm going down to the bars around Avenida Revolucion to drink) but honestly, those folks are experienced and a lot of times can tell where you're really headed LOL. Maybe 25-30% of the time when I've crossed late at night I'll say I'm headed down to the bars on Revloucion and they (if it's a male official) will say something to the effect of "oh you're going down to check out the chicas, eh?" Then we both start laughing and he lets me through without issue. They're pretty good at profiling who's going where a lot of times but they're not going to give you issues even if they know you're going to Zona Norte. Don't understand why they would anyway.

[Goyo61]

From airport just Uber to PedWest and cross there.

After customs and you keep walking it will let you out at a little plaza where you can catch a Taxi for $5 to HK. (OK sure you can barter for cheaper but it's what the drivers will want). Or you can get a Uber from the plaza on the Tijuana side and go to HK. The ride is like 3 minutes. Very close.

Last two times I was down there at 7 pm coming back there was not any line at pedwest. Here is a web site to bookmark and you can check it before going so you can see how long a pedestrian wait is. (look under San Ysidro / PedWest).

https://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/mobile.asp?action=n&pn=2504

Any questions?

Have a great trip!


Hi all,

Long time monger here, recently transplanted to Southern Cali from the east coast.

A quick questions about Tijuana if I may:

1) I am flying into SD. Never been south of the border. Is there a best avenue of approach to get into Tijuana?

Most critically, coming back into the US, is there a place to cross the border where I can avoid long lines and delays?

I am planning on getting into an Uber once I get off the airplane, heading right to the HK, then Ubering back. (I don't want to rely on HK transport for my first outing).

Any and all help, color and detail you guys can provide, is truly greatly appreciated. I promise to provide detailed colorful reports.

[KC Questor]

1) I am flying into SD. Never been south of the border. Is there a best avenue of approach to get into Tijuana?
Most critically, coming back into the US, is there a place to cross the border where I can avoid long lines and delays?
I am planning on getting into an Uber once I get off the airplane, heading right to the HK, then Ubering back. (I don't want to rely on HK transport for my first outing).
Uber to the border will cost you about $40 (varies a lot depending on time of day) and will take 30 minutes or so. You can save a bit with Uber Pool if you are willing to share with other people but will take more time. If you have an hour or 90 minutes to spare to save some money, public transport will get you there for $7. Buy a pass at the kiosk at the airport and catch the 992 bus at the stop just outside the terminal. Get off downtown around 3rd street (exact stop doesn't really matter) and walk north one block to the trolley line. Take the BLUE line trolley to San Ysidro. There is construction right now, so the trip will end a couple of stops early and a shuttle bus will take you to the border. Then reverse that to return to the airport. It sounds like a pain, but it's really easy and will save you 30 bucks or so each way.

Follow the crowds from the bus stop into Tijuana and catch a cab to Hong Kong. Or use Uber if you have data in Mexico.

[Thunder52]

Hi all,

Long time monger here, recently transplanted to Southern Cali from the east coast.

A quick questions about Tijuana if I may:

1) I am flying into SD. Never been south of the border. Is there a best avenue of approach to get into Tijuana?

Most critically, coming back into the US, is there a place to cross the border where I can avoid long lines and delays?

I am planning on getting into an Uber once I get off the airplane, heading right to the HK, then Ubering back. (I don't want to rely on HK transport for my first outing).

Any and all help, color and detail you guys can provide, is truly greatly appreciated. I promise to provide detailed colorful reports.The critical factor in returning to the USA Is timing. Lines begin to form at about 2:30 am to 3:00 weekdays. A little after that on weekends. After that you're basically screwed. Plan at least:60 to:90 standing in line. I find that the old crossing goes fastest. Beware police shakedowns.

[DramaFree11]

Uber to the border will cost you about $40 (varies a lot depending on time of day) and will take 30 minutes or so. You can save a bit with Uber Pool if you are willing to share with other people but will take more time. If you have an hour or 90 minutes to spare to save some money, public transport will get you there for $7. Buy a pass at the kiosk at the airport and catch the 992 bus at the stop just outside the terminal. Get off downtown around 3rd street (exact stop doesn't really matter) and walk north one block to the trolley line. Take the BLUE line trolley to San Ysidro. There is construction right now, so the trip will end a couple of stops early and a shuttle bus will take you to the border. Then reverse that to return to the airport. It sounds like a pain, but it's really easy and will save you 30 bucks or so each way.

Follow the crowds from the bus stop into Tijuana and catch a cab to Hong Kong. Or use Uber if you have data in Mexico.Agree, but at night. You do not need to mess around with public or transportation or waiting around for Uber. If there is Hk staff standing just go with them tip the $3-4 and no issues. If not just walk by the cabs standing outside and grab the first cab driving by $4-5.

Other advantage is at night the cops probably will not mess with you if you are in Taxi or Cab.

[Captain Solo]

Chavelas is right next to HK, usually has live bands on weekend playing Mexican music.

Guys have been telling me Chevelas' girls tend to be less hardened than HK's, but most are chunky and heavy, more attractive to Mexican taste. Occasionally you will find a few skinny girls. They hardly do any business, tend to be more like GND, fresher and less demanding. Sex with them is more like with GFs. A few guys have gotten good TLNs, some even freebies. A guy would target a girl, buys her drinks and at the end of her shift, go home with her for free sex.

[Captain Solo]

We came to agreement quickly. So it may have been me.

I would rather gave CBJ and CFS with beautiful girls than Bare Backing ugly, overweight girls. I like the total experiences with beautiful girls, showing lots of loving, caring and pleasurable expressions, not dead star fish hehe. Guys have reported picking up infections from escorts, bar girls and street girls. I don't want to risk it.

I went through Adelita Tuesday night. There were less than 10 girls, all chunky and pudgy types. I walked out quickly.

[DramaFree11]

We came to agreement quickly. So it may have been me.

I would rather gave CBJ and CFS with beautiful girls than Bare Backing ugly, overweight girls. I like the total experiences with beautiful girls, showing lots of loving, caring and pleasurable expressions, not dead star fish hehe. Guys have reported picking up infections from escorts, bar girls and street girls. I don't want to risk it.

I went through Adelita Tuesday night. There were less than 10 girls, all chunky and pudgy types. I walked out quickly.Well said, I could not agree more. I do not even waste my time going into Adelitas anymore, complete waste of time.

[Theo TheMonger]

Thank you Drama and Thunder and KC.

This being my first trip, my focus really isn't on lowest cost.

My interest really is the border crossing, both entering Mexico and coming back into the US, but specifically coming back into the US given the notoriously long delays -what's the best way not to be caught in long line of traffic or standing in a long line as a pedestrian.

Where, when and and how to cross most efficiently to avoid delays.

[Captain Solo]

To Theo.

My wingmen crossed back all the time via PedEast after midnight, weekends or week nights up to 2 AM, there were no line. Took only 5 minutes to cross every time. By about 3 AM people would start waiting in line to catch the trolley for San Diego to work.

If you cross back at night, there is usually no wait. Avoid PedWest in the day time as lots of people use it to go to the factory outlet stores.

My interest really is the border crossing, both entering Mexico and coming back into the US, but specifically coming back into the US given the notoriously long delays -what's the best way not to be caught in long line of traffic or standing in a long line as a pedestrian.

[Rainman306]

Hong Kong may be the only strip club in North America on that can field a good lineup in the morning hours on a regular basis. Have spent my last hours (morning hours) before my departing flight at Hong Kong.

Have actually spent more time at Chicago Club & Tropical Bar on my 3 trips, but there is no denying that Hong Kong is the top club right now.

[StRobert]

To Theo.

My wingmen crossed back all the time via PedEast after midnight, weekends or week nights up to 2 AM, there were no line. Took only 5 minutes to cross every time. By about 3 AM people would start waiting in line to catch the trolley for San Diego to work.

If you cross back at night, there is usually no wait. Avoid PedWest in the day time as lots of people use it to go to the factory outlet stores.

My interest really is the border crossing, both entering Mexico and coming back into the US, but specifically coming back into the US given the notoriously long delays -what's the best way not to be caught in long line of traffic or standing in a long line as a pedestrian.I always come back late around 11 PM - Midnight. Crossing the border (pedeast): weekdays without a problem only 5 min, but Sunday or large holidays even at this time it is possible queue up to half an hour. Then I catch a trolley to my car parked in a free trolley parking lot. (Last trolley to San Diego 1258 AM and the next around 430 AM.).

[StRobert]

Chavelas is right next to HK, usually has live bands on weekend playing Mexican music.

Guys have been telling me Chevelas' girls tend to be less hardened than HK's, but most are chunky and heavy, more attractive to Mexican taste. Occasionally you will find a few skinny girls. They hardly do any business, tend to be more like GND, fresher and less demanding. Sex with them is more like with GFs. A few guys have gotten good TLNs, some even freebies. A guy would target a girl, buys her drinks and at the end of her shift, go home with her for free sex.In Chavelas you can dance a few dances with the girl. ($ 1 for one dance). You can feel her body and personality and if you like it then you both go up to the room.

[Goyo61]

OMG. Was in Phoenix over the weekend and stopped by a strip club just for little fun. First one of the dancers said she needed $10 for a lap dance which I thought. Wow. Not to bad a price. Then she said. But if you want to touch during a lap dance. It's $40 for the house plus tip for her. What? Are they out of their minds. For $9 in HK you can feel quite a bit or just a few bucks for a tip for god sake! Yes. We are spoiled in Zona Norte for sure!

G

[LuvMexicanas]

OMG. Was in Phoenix over the weekend and stopped by a strip club just for little fun. First one of the dancers said she needed $10 for a lap dance which I thought. Wow. Not to bad a price. Then she said. But if you want to touch during a lap dance. It's $40 for the house plus tip for her. What? Are they out of their minds. For $9 in HK you can feel quite a bit or just a few bucks for a tip for god sake! Yes. We are spoiled in Zona Norte for sure!

GIf you want plenty of contact Chicas is the place. Also, beer is cheap. It's been a couple years since I've been there but their beers may be on par or even less than Hong Kong beer prices which is astoundingly low by American strip bar standard prices.

[Goyo61]

Thanks for tipola. Will check it out next time in town.

G.


If you want plenty of contact Chicas is the place. Also, beer is cheap. It's been a couple years since I've been there but their beers may be on par or even less than Hong Kong beer prices which is astoundingly low by American strip bar standard prices.

[Freespiritfet]

I plan to have a first trip to HK, and I read lots post but still get some questions, please advice.

1. Cash, should I carry thousands dollars cross the board? Or there are ATM there I can use American debt card. And, should I change some Mexican money or it is OK to use dollars everywhere there.

2. Hotel, Is that safe to stay in HK hotel? Can I leave my passport in the room? Also, Is that ok I bring street girls and go to HK hotel?

3. If I have a room in HK hotel, and I find some chicks in HK, can I just bring girls to my own room? Or do I need pay additional room fee, seems like $19 for a HR.

4. If I find some street girl and I have to go to her room, how much it cost per HR? Girl and room.

5. HK VIP card, it is 50 bucks, it is one time VIP or whole year? Which mean, if I plan to stay in HK 5 days, can I use VIP for 5 days at least?

I'm from Palm Spring, anyone around would like to go together?

[OrganicAlo]

I plan to have a first trip to HK, and I read lots post but still get some questions, please advice.

1. Cash, should I carry thousands dollars cross the board? Or there are ATM there I can use American debt card. And, should I change some Mexican money or it is OK to use dollars everywhere there.

2. Hotel, Is that safe to stay in HK hotel? Can I leave my passport in the room? Also, Is that ok I bring street girls and go to HK hotel?

3. If I have a room in HK hotel, and I find some chicks in HK, can I just bring girls to my own room? Or do I need pay additional room fee, seems like $19 for a HR.

4. If I find some street girl and I have to go to her room, how much it cost per HR? Girl and room.

5. HK VIP card, it is 50 bucks, it is one time VIP or whole year? Which mean, if I plan to stay in HK 5 days, can I use VIP for 5 days at least?

I'm from Palm Spring, anyone around would like to go together?1. I only bring about 600 max when I go for overnight trips, so can't really comment on this one. The atms around la zona norte charge some pretty hefty fees though. For a first trip just bring USD, when I go I bring a little pesos for beer, food, and maybe some SG action.

2. Yes, HK (Cascadas) is safe to stay in, really nice hotel as well. SGs are allowed to go upstairs in cascadas.

3. No additional room fee if you have a room.

4. I mainly stick to BGs, but I'd imagine an HR with a SG would be something like 50-60 and maybe 10 or 15 for the room??

5. 50 bucks and it is good for 3 months.

When are you going?

[Dogers69]

I plan to have a first trip to HK, and I read lots post but still get some questions, please advice.

1. Cash, should I carry thousands dollars cross the board? Or there are ATM there I can use American debt card. And, should I change some Mexican money or it is OK to use dollars everywhere there.

2. Hotel, Is that safe to stay in HK hotel? Can I leave my passport in the room? Also, Is that ok I bring street girls and go to HK hotel?

3. If I have a room in HK hotel, and I find some chicks in HK, can I just bring girls to my own room? Or do I need pay additional room fee, seems like $19 for a HR.

4. If I find some street girl and I have to go to her room, how much it cost per HR? Girl and room.

5. HK VIP card, it is 50 bucks, it is one time VIP or whole year? Which mean, if I plan to stay in HK 5 days, can I use VIP for 5 days at least?

I'm from Palm Spring, anyone around would like to go together?I go every week so let me know, I will carry your thousands for you to keep it safe haha. No wonder we gringos are getting choked in the streets of Tijuana. I've seen homeless, jobless, asylum seekers get kidnapped in the news and this guy wants to carry thousands. The Mexican border patrol will spot you a mile away, last night they tried telling me I was going to HK and Cascadas LOL I'm like no I'm going to revolution. He tried for 3 minutes and his assistant t shirt get me to say Hong Kong for some reason and I had 120 dollars on and me. You go with thousands. Good luck.

[Baxter Slade]

If you want plenty of contact Chicas is the place. Also, beer is cheap. It's been a couple years since I've been there but their beers may be on par or even less than Hong Kong beer prices which is astoundingly low by American strip bar standard prices.Chicas cabaret? Never heard of it. Is it in Tijuana? I have been to chica bonita in Las Vegas.

Or maybe you are talking about Chavelas. I like that place.

[StRobert]

I plan to have a first trip to HK, and I read lots post but still get some questions, please advice.

1. Cash, should I carry thousands dollars cross the board? Or there are ATM there I can use American debt card. And, should I change some Mexican money or it is OK to use dollars everywhere there.

2. Hotel, Is that safe to stay in HK hotel? Can I leave my passport in the room? Also, Is that ok I bring street girls and go to HK hotel?

3. If I have a room in HK hotel, and I find some chicks in HK, can I just bring girls to my own room? Or do I need pay additional room fee, seems like $19 for a HR.

4. If I find some street girl and I have to go to her room, how much it cost per HR? Girl and room.

5. HK VIP card, it is 50 bucks, it is one time VIP or whole year? Which mean, if I plan to stay in HK 5 days, can I use VIP for 5 days at least?

I'm from Palm Spring, anyone around would like to go together?Question # 4 - SG rooms cost around $ 5 for 30 min. As I remember these rooms are very simple. Old bed and old chair. Often without windows and in the winter very cold and in the summer super hot (90 F) inside the room (no fan). They can be good for fast BJ. Price for SG can be from $ 20-$ 60 depends on what you want (chica naked or not) you have to tell her what you want and negotiate the price.

[LuvMexicanas]

Chicas cabaret? Never heard of it. Is it in Tijuana? I have been to chica bonita in Las Vegas.

Or maybe you are talking about Chavelas. I like that place.It was a reply to Goyo's post regarding Phoenix. You mentioned Chicas Bonitas in Vegas and I am a fan of that place. Perhaps it was the specific night I was there, but Cubanas outnumbered Mexicanas by what felt like a margin of two to one.

[Captain Solo]

ST Robert.

Cascada and Coahuila rent out the same ST rooms to bar girls and street girls, but will charge $18 for bar vs only $5 for street girls. They are the same rooms but have 2 prices in 2 parallel markets.

The other smaller hotels, like Garcia and Mini, are basic but clean, neat, comfortable, not too cold or too hot. Last time I used ST room in hotel Coahuila for Adelita, the sheets smell putrid. Hotel Porton also smells really bad, like shit. They pissed me off.

Some street girls are beautiful in nice, clean, civil ways. I prefer them to pumped up, tattooed bar girls.

[Goyo61]

I found out that by mistake. Took SG up to Cascada and gave the guy a $20 and he gave me $15 back. Couldn't figure out why.

But also did not realize it was for 25 minutes or some shorter time. Guy was knocking on our room in no time.

The next time I just paid for more time up front and it worked out well.

Interesting comment about parallel markets. The whole economics of Zona Norte's action just frikin amazes me. How much money. Where for what. When etc.

G


ST Robert.

Cascada and Coahuila rent out the same ST rooms to bar girls and street girls, but will charge $18 for bar vs only $5 for street girls. They are the same rooms but have 2 prices in 2 parallel markets.

The other smaller hotels, like Garcia and Mini, are basic but clean, neat, comfortable, not too cold or too hot. Last time I used ST room in hotel Coahuila for Adelita, the sheets smell putrid. Hotel Porton also smells really bad, like shit. They pissed me off.

Some street girls are beautiful in nice, clean, civil ways. I prefer them to pumped up, tattooed bar girls.

[Dogers69]

I went Wednesday, normally on a Wednesday I'm in Adelitas if I'm in zona but hk was filled with woman wensday. To me, its the best day from what I've seen last year. It was 1.5 woman per guy, and the chicks were hot. Did I see a 9, or 10, based on Tijuana or San Diego or LA or NYC streets. ? No. But I saw 40 woman I'd rate as a 8, quite easily. I didn't have sex because the quoted prices were 80 to 120. It was going to take a 60 for me to say yes. But I paid 60 on drinks for the girls in HK and Adelitas. Yesterday, I spent the day in San Diego at a hostel talking to woman who are all banging many men at once on tinder. They view me as a dad so I don't even hit on them. These woman, all say they only want sex not relationship. One hottie was dating a guy right out of prison. I still say tinder is the way to go of you are 35 under or over 35 and over 6 foot tall.

[Turgid]

OMG. Was in Phoenix over the weekend and stopped by a strip club just for little fun. First one of the dancers said she needed $10 for a lap dance which I thought. Wow. Not to bad a price. Then she said. But if you want to touch during a lap dance. It's $40 for the house plus tip for her. What? Are they out of their minds. For $9 in HK you can feel quite a bit or just a few bucks for a tip for god sake! Yes. We are spoiled in Zona Norte for sure!

G$40.00 plus tip just for an erection that your hand will be relieving later.

[JabberWock]

ST Robert.

Cascada and Coahuila rent out the same ST rooms to bar girls and street girls, but will charge $18 for bar vs only $5 for street girls. They are the same rooms but have 2 prices in 2 parallel markets.

The other smaller hotels, like Garcia and Mini, are basic but clean, neat, comfortable, not too cold or too hot. Last time I used ST room in hotel Coahuila for Adelita, the sheets smell putrid. Hotel Porton also smells really bad, like shit. They pissed me off.

Some street girls are beautiful in nice, clean, civil ways. I prefer them to pumped up, tattooed bar girls.Excuse me for asking but what is a ST room?

[Captain Solo]

Short-time room.

30 to 45 minutes for bar girls.

20- 30 minutes for street girls.

[ScatManDoo]

Excuse me for asking but what is a ST room?ST stands for "Short Time".

Inside La Zona, hotel rooms are rented out overnight, or for short-term periods (for 15 minutes, or 20 minutes, or 30 minutes, or even an hour).

Currently Cascades has rented overnight rooms, or those same hotel rooms for short-term rentals.

A typical Short-term rental period at Cascades costs $19 for a 30-minute rental period with a bar girl, or $6 for a 15 (or 20) minute rental period with a street girl or walker.

I knew that the Hotel Coahula (located above Adelitas Bar) rents just a few rooms overnight, with most of their rooms available for short-term (30 minute) rentals for using the room to session with Adelitas Bar Girls.

Hotel Coahuila will rent you a short-term room if you want to bring up a street girl (also I believe, for 30 minutes for around $13).

I've never heard of a less costly, shorter rental term for a short-term room to use with a street girls at Hotel Coahuila. I certainly won't expect this lower $5 rental fee there until I am told about it from a reliable source.

[TerOnlyOnce]

Sup all. I'm planning a trip in about a month. Should get a fat tax return so time to have some fun. I've got two choices: Tijuana or Montreal? Last time I went to Montreal. It was fucking fuuuun, good quality girls and solid prices. Like $120-160 USD per hour for a chick, a hottie being on the $160 end. I'm curious about Tijuana though. I've been here twice already and I know the program. I really would love to fuck some big fat Mexican booties but I'm doubting I'll have much fun. I know so many hustling bitches are in HK. And they charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex which is lame bullshit. Actually. What am I thinking. Writing that out made me realize I should probably just go to Canada. I can get a full hour there for $120-160. I make sure to time the sessions with my phone so I don't get cheated. HK sucks ass cause you get shit for the money you pay. The only good thing they got going for them is the really cheap street girls that can be hot. But even then, there's not many of those. Sigh, I wish Tijuana was better. Really want to fuck those Mexican bubble butts but I'm just not getting enough value to justify doing it. SIGHHH.

[Aviator400]

Sup all. I'm planning a trip in about a month. Should get a fat tax return so time to have some fun. I've got two choices: Tijuana or Montreal? Last time I went to Montreal. It was fucking fuuuun, good quality girls and solid prices. Like $120-160 USD per hour for a chick, a hottie being on the $160 end. I'm curious about Tijuana though. I've been here twice already and I know the program. I really would love to fuck some big fat Mexican booties but I'm doubting I'll have much fun. I know so many hustling bitches are in HK. And they charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex which is lame bullshit. Actually. What am I thinking. Writing that out made me realize I should probably just go to Canada. I can get a full hour there for $120-160. I make sure to time the sessions with my phone so I don't get cheated. HK sucks ass cause you get shit for the money you pay. The only good thing they got going for them is the really cheap street girls that can be hot. But even then, there's not many of those. Sigh, I wish Tijuana was better. Really want to fuck those Mexican bubble butts but I'm just not getting enough value to justify doing it. SIGHHH.You seem to be focused on the negatives of HK. There are other clubs in the area, with hot chicks, at prices you can afford.

I have gotten an hour with girls at La Gloria. Had some good (and BAD) times at Playboy.

I always come back from Tijuana feeling good about making the journey.

OTOH, we all have our preferences.

[Dogers69]

Dam Montreal sounds interesting. Maybe I should go it's not far when I'm on the east coast. Is it legal? If I didn't love San Diego so much as a place to live part time, I'd probably never have seen hk never mind returned 100 times in few years. I'm kinda bored of it though cause I never get those low offers. Just a year ago some girls would say 50, one said 30.160 I was quoted from one girl last week. I know you can chew some down to 80 but the CBJ and lack of kissing makes me rather be in Florida for a 10 dollar lap dance and 3 dollar beer if its before 7 pm.

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[Jackie888]

Sup all. I'm planning a trip in about a month. Should get a fat tax return so time to have some fun. I've got two choices: Tijuana or Montreal? Last time I went to Montreal. It was fucking fuuuun, good quality girls and solid prices. Like $120-160 USD per hour for a chick, a hottie being on the $160 end. I'm curious about Tijuana though. I've been here twice already and I know the program. I really would love to fuck some big fat Mexican booties but I'm doubting I'll have much fun. I know so many hustling bitches are in HK. And they charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex which is lame bullshit. Actually. What am I thinking. Writing that out made me realize I should probably just go to Canada. I can get a full hour there for $120-160. I make sure to time the sessions with my phone so I don't get cheated. HK sucks ass cause you get shit for the money you pay. The only good thing they got going for them is the really cheap street girls that can be hot. But even then, there's not many of those. Sigh, I wish Tijuana was better. Really want to fuck those Mexican bubble butts but I'm just not getting enough value to justify doing it. SIGHHH.If you live within 4 hours of driving distance of Tijuana, it is worth it. If you have to fly, Montreal looks like a better deal.

[LuvMexicanas]

Sup all. I'm planning a trip in about a month. Should get a fat tax return so time to have some fun. I've got two choices: Tijuana or Montreal? Last time I went to Montreal. It was fucking fuuuun, good quality girls and solid prices. Like $120-160 USD per hour for a chick, a hottie being on the $160 end. I'm curious about Tijuana though. I've been here twice already and I know the program. I really would love to fuck some big fat Mexican booties but I'm doubting I'll have much fun. I know so many hustling bitches are in HK. And they charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex which is lame bullshit. Actually. What am I thinking. Writing that out made me realize I should probably just go to Canada. I can get a full hour there for $120-160. I make sure to time the sessions with my phone so I don't get cheated. HK sucks ass cause you get shit for the money you pay. The only good thing they got going for them is the really cheap street girls that can be hot. But even then, there's not many of those. Sigh, I wish Tijuana was better. Really want to fuck those Mexican bubble butts but I'm just not getting enough value to justify doing it. SIGHHH.Your preference in women would drive your decision right? As you can tell by my handle LuvMexicanas, it's a no-brainier for me because Mexican women are my favorite. I'm not saying I'd turn away a French Canadian sexy chica, but we all have our preferences. If you truly don't care about nationality, I can't help you because I have only been to Old Quebec City, not Montreal. Just weigh all the pros and cons and make a decision. It's not like this will be your last hobby trip.

[Goyo61]

I bet you go Friday's and Saturday nights? Supply and demand. I go early in afternoon when it's not so crazy and most of the prices I get are $80. Few hundreds. I have gotten a couple 60's but it's rare. If it's $10 lap dance and you can touch in Florida that is nice. The private lap dances are underrated. The idea that you can experience 5 beautiful girls bodies (OK your not fucking them). But caressing etc. For $20 each is a wonderful experience for the lapdance at HK. I often stand up and do some grinding / dancing with them in the private lapdance rooms.

After I pop my cork it's just nice to get lap dances and drinks with touching the girls with out the desire to go for a little fucky. I had a friend who would go in the mornings and he said he would often get mom's trying to make a little cash and the prices were lower as well.

Goyo.


Dam Montreal sounds interesting. Maybe I should go it's not far when I'm on the east coast. Is it legal? If I didn't love San Diego so much as a place to live part time, I'd probably never have seen hk never mind returned 100 times in few years. I'm kinda bored of it though cause I never get those low offers. Just a year ago some girls would say 50, one said 30.160 I was quoted from one girl last week. I know you can chew some down to 80 but the CBJ and lack of kissing makes me rather be in Florida for a 10 dollar lap dance and 3 dollar beer if its before 7 pm.

[Phordphan]

Man, oh man! If only there were other clubs in Tijuana with available girls!!

[ScatManDoo]

Dam Montreal sounds interesting. Maybe I should go it's not far when I'm on the east coast. Is it legal? If I didn't love San Diego so much as a place to live part time, I'd probably never have seen hk never mind returned 100 times in few years. I'm kinda bored of it though cause I never get those low offers. Just a year ago some girls would say 50, one said 30.160 I was quoted from one girl last week. I know you can chew some down to 80 but the CBJ and lack of kissing makes me rather be in Florida for a 10 dollar lap dance and 3 dollar beer if its before 7 pm.You will likely never get a lowball offer if you are making your way through Hong Kong asking the chicas you find attractive "How much?

That's a captain rookie move.

The way to get lowball fees is for YOU to make the lowball offer. You tell her you want to go upstairs and you pay $XX. If it is reasonable, you should get more acceptances than declines.

If you are really lowballing it well, you might get more nos than yeses (you don't need many acceptances).

[TomJackin]

I know so many hustling bitches are in HK. And they charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex which is lame bullshit. Actually.

HK sucks ass cause you get shit for the money you pay. The only good thing they got going for them is the really cheap street girls that can be hot. If you paid 80 bucks for 15 minutes then that is your fault. Nobody should pay that much for that short of time.

BTW, HK does not have any street girls. The SGs outside the place are working independently.

Canada will suit you best IMHO.

[Promolion]

I still can get 80 for Saturday and Friday. Just have to buy them a drink and get some flirting on. I have had girls in my room for a couple hours just chatting and cost the normal price. They were off the clock though. It is just a matter of buying them drinks and connect. If you just walk up and make your offer than don't expect much. If you do a drive by on them, they will do a drive by on you.

[DramaFree11]

I still can get 80 for Saturday and Friday. Just have to buy them a drink and get some flirting on. I have had girls in my room for a couple hours just chatting and cost the normal price. They were off the clock though. It is just a matter of buying them drinks and connect. If you just walk up and make your offer than don't expect much. If you do a drive by on them, they will do a drive by on you.Sorry this does not make a lot of sense. Time you buy drinks you are over $100. I almost never buy the girls drinks anymore unless we go to the Azul, or the sports bar.

[Promolion]

Sorry this does not make a lot of sense. Time you buy drinks you are over $100. I almost never buy the girls drinks anymore unless we go to the Azul, or the sports bar.True. It can get expensive and I know what you mean. It is definitely not for saving money. More of a screening or investment for chemistry. 2-3 drinks and it gets expensive. I think it is because I got burn the couple of times I negotiate directly without drinks that I stop that approach. Maybe I got no direct skill. Just saying I usually go Saturday and 80 is still a normal price. Even new girls will accept it. The only difference is they won't time you and make sure you are satisfied when you buy them a drink first. But even then, it is not a guaranteed. Do what works I guess.

[TerOnlyOnce]

If you paid 80 bucks for 15 minutes then that is your fault. Nobody should pay that much for that short of time.

BTW, HK does not have any street girls. The SGs outside the place are working independently.

Canada will suit you best IMHO.I've been to Tijuana twice and I tried to like it, but I just can't justify going there. I'm sorry but what I am saying holds true. I've been to HK as a typical dude that just wants to have some fun with the hotties there. I stay firm on $80 and have seen a solid amount of HK girls. I can say with extremely high confidence that the typical session is 15 minutes. I will never forget how these girls treated me at HK. Literally the standard routine is by the 15 minute mark the girl starts to say "baby it's time to cum you almost out of time! This is going to happen to you, it has always happened to me. I wasn't insulting or anything like that, just a typical tourist non white guy coming to have fun. It really sucks because there are so many hot girls in HK. I remember standing in the club seeing one girl with the hottest body and perfect huge bubble butt, but I got so sad when I saw it. Because I know that she will never offer me a quality service. It'll just be 15 minutes of bullshit sex and then she'll be saying "it's time to cum" and then wanting to get dressed and leave, boom just a waste of $80.

Also, another problem in HK is none of the girls speak English, all Spanish. I personally know very little Spanish. But I will admit that the food in Tijuana is great. Those Mexican tacos are fantastic.

I'm probably going to end up going to Montreal. I just love the city. It's a cozy and quiet place, very safe and welcoming. A lot of french Canadians around, and I know a solid amount of french so language isn't that much of a problem for me. However, I would say the biggest reason I'm probably going to go to Montreal instead of Tijuana is cause of distance. I live on the east coast. The plane trip to San Diego is looong. Like 4 hours. It is definitely a trip to make, I've done it twice. To make that long trip for such an underwhelming experience is. Not very fun, another reason I can't justify the trip. Luckily Montreal has some big booty Latina girls so it's not all that bad. And as I've said prices are $120-160 USD for an hour in your hotel or the girl's hotel. And yes you get the full time, just make sure you time it, otherwise you will get shorted. In my experience the higher end agency girls and some independent girls are respectful of time.

[ScottHall]

HK isn't the only place in Tijuana for girls LOL. There's at least 10 bars to go to. There's like 10+ escort agencies to choose from. Most of the agencies are about 90 for the hour. Not necessarily stunners like the HK girls but still 18-24 year olds that provide GFE. Good girls can get you 2 hours for 2400 pesos, they give pics. HK is a great place to drink and have a good time but it's not the only place for sessions. It's just one option among many.

[LaZonaHomie]

Hey all,

First time posting, 3rd time in la zona. First trip was with a friend, second trip was solo (much more enjoyable,) and I will be heading out for my third trip, solo, from 2/8-2/10. If anyone is around and wants to have a beer, hit me up.

I usually find myself buying a lot of drinks, and single cigarettes to get me by / keep me busy in between sessions. This can be a problem on the wallet, and memory the next day. Haha. I am yet to find Azul, or the coupon (I'm not a HK VIP.) I've also never heard of a sports bar / seen one around.

Any advice / tips on how to kill time in between sessions in La Zona, would be helpful this time around!

[Elvis 2008]

Sup all. I'm planning a trip in about a month. Should get a fat tax return so time to have some fun. I've got two choices: Tijuana or Montreal? Last time I went to Montreal. It was fucking fuuuun, good quality girls and solid prices. Like $120-160 USD per hour for a chick, a hottie being on the $160 end. I'm curious about Tijuana though. I've been here twice already and I know the program. I really would love to fuck some big fat Mexican booties but I'm doubting I'll have much fun. I know so many hustling bitches are in HK. And they charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex which is lame bullshit. Actually. What am I thinking. Writing that out made me realize I should probably just go to Canada. I can get a full hour there for $120-160. I make sure to time the sessions with my phone so I don't get cheated. HK sucks ass cause you get shit for the money you pay. The only good thing they got going for them is the really cheap street girls that can be hot. But even then, there's not many of those. Sigh, I wish Tijuana was better. Really want to fuck those Mexican bubble butts but I'm just not getting enough value to justify doing it. SIGHHH.I think you are limiting yourself. If you want really cheap Mexican pussy, I would head to Monterrey and go to the clubs there. Much cheaper than HK but the quality is much more hit or miss. As far as the escort scene, I would take Mexico City over Montreal. Women are much cheaper, quality can be had in the $50 to $70 range using Twitter and it is around $125 an hour for the foreign women from South America. Women in Montreal are beautiful but no one can fuck like the Latinas IMO.

Of course, the ultimate values are Bogota and Medellin. If you are flying 4 hours to Tijuana, I would just do the 6 or so and just go to Colombia.

[ScatManDoo]

I've been to Tijuana twice and I tried to like it, but I just can't justify going there. I'm sorry but what I am saying holds true. I've been to HK as a typical dude that just wants to have some fun with the hotties there. I stay firm on $80 and have seen a solid amount of HK girls. I can say with extremely high confidence that the typical session is 15 minutes. I will never forget how these girls treated me at HK. Literally the standard routine is by the 15 minute mark the girl starts to say "baby it's time to cum you almost out of time! This is going to happen to you, it has always happened to me. I wasn't insulting or anything like that, just a typical tourist non white guy coming to have fun. It really sucks because there are so many hot girls in HK. I remember standing in the club seeing one girl with the hottest body and perfect huge bubble butt, but I got so sad when I saw it. Because I know that she will never offer me a quality service. It'll just be 15 minutes of bullshit sex and then she'll be saying "it's time to cum" and then wanting to get dressed and leave, boom just a waste of $80.

Also, another problem in HK is none of the girls speak English, all Spanish. I personally know very little Spanish. But I will admit that the food in Tijuana is great. Those Mexican tacos are fantastic.

I'm probably going to end up going to Montreal. I just love the city..I've noticed dozens and dozens and dozens of posts of yours (carping about 15 HK citas) where you share your vast expertise obtained from your two whole trips to Tijuana.

Why is it that you could time your sessions, to prevent getting shorted, only in Montreal, but not in Tijuana?

[ScatManDoo]

Luckily Montreal has some big booty Latina girls so it's not all that bad. And as I've said prices are $120-160 USD for an hour in your hotel or the girl's hotel. And yes you get the full time, just make sure you time it, otherwise you will get shorted. In my experience the higher end agency girls and some independent girls are respectful of time.This is the portion of TerOnlyOnce's post that I wanted to quote.

More than a decade ago, when I was still regularly having sessions with Tijuana bar girls (now I mostly just take up the walkers) I would use a kitchen timer in the room to help keep some accountability concerning session length. I only used it a few times, but without problems and made for a more satisfying time.

[LuvMexicanas]

Hey all,

First time posting, 3rd time in la zona. First trip was with a friend, second trip was solo (much more enjoyable,) and I will be heading out for my third trip, solo, from 2/8-2/10. If anyone is around and wants to have a beer, hit me up.

I usually find myself buying a lot of drinks, and single cigarettes to get me by / keep me busy in between sessions. This can be a problem on the wallet, and memory the next day. Haha. I am yet to find Azul, or the coupon (I'm not a HK VIP.) I've also never heard of a sports bar / seen one around.

Any advice / tips on how to kill time in between sessions in La Zona, would be helpful this time around!Get out of the Zona. Tijuana is much more than Zona Norte. Try picking up civies at El Copeo during the afternoon. At 15 pesos a beer, you have nothing to lose. If you have any semblance of dancing ability, Las Pulgas can be fun at night. The best part is if your hunt is unsuccessful, you've got no shortage of sure things waiting for you in the Zona.

[Dogers69]

A girl in HK took her hardest smack to my face, 1st smack or punch anyone ever landed and I played hockey and was in many quick fights. She drank her ficha in 45 seconds, was angry I called her out on it, and stuck her ass on my face still dancing. I tapped it like I'd tap a 17 year old dogs head, very lightly, but she yelled at me for punching her and took her smack at me. Her 2nd shot was stopped as I shoved her into the waiter. Then I spent half hour trying to find her to report her to management. HK is fun, if you go once a year but if you think it's going to be like your local strip club in the states it's not. Too many new employees, no obvious management overlooking things like you would get at at strip club in the states.

[Captain Solo]

Dodger,

A chunky hockey player tapping a 17 year-old dog's head could be fatal. Damn, it takes a HK chica to set the hockey player straight. Hehe.

A few HK girls are lesbians and can be very hateful and rough with guys. But if they hit or slap clients, they would lose their jobs.

The other night 4 young black guys just came in from NYC. One playfully slapped a big, bouncy butt as she walked past. The girl turned livid, yelling, screaming at his face, then pulled a security guy to complain. Security guys collared all 4 guys and ejected them from the club. Wasted the whole trip to Tijuana hehe.

I slapped and pinched lots of butts in HK, rarely ever got problems. If the girls get mad I just give them my silly grin, say "lo siento," and offer them kisses to make up, propinas would also help.

[Phordphan]

A girl in HK took her hardest smack to my face, 1st smack or punch anyone ever landed and I played hockey and was in many quick fights. She drank her ficha in 45 seconds, was angry I called her out on it, and stuck her ass on my face still dancing. I tapped it like I'd tap a 17 year old dogs head, very lightly, but she yelled at me for punching her and took her smack at me. Her 2nd shot was stopped as I shoved her into the waiter. Then I spent half hour trying to find her to report her to management. HK is fun, if you go once a year but if you think it's going to be like your local strip club in the states it's not. Too many new employees, no obvious management overlooking things like you would get at at strip club in the states.Another great TR from our very own Joe Btfsplk. Thanks, Joe! Keep up the good work.

[Goyo61]

Hey LaZona,

Good chance I will be down there early afternoon Sunday if your still around and want to connect up let me know.

Goyo.


Hey all,

First time posting, 3rd time in la zona. First trip was with a friend, second trip was solo (much more enjoyable,) and I will be heading out for my third trip, solo, from 2/8-2/10. If anyone is around and wants to have a beer, hit me up.

I usually find myself buying a lot of drinks, and single cigarettes to get me by / keep me busy in between sessions. This can be a problem on the wallet, and memory the next day. Haha. I am yet to find Azul, or the coupon (I'm not a HK VIP.) I've also never heard of a sports bar / seen one around.

Any advice / tips on how to kill time in between sessions in La Zona, would be helpful this time around!

[Captain Solo]

Tuesday night HK had a few hot girls. I wanted to find Adrianna, a spinner with curly dark blonde hair, natural be boobs, light skin, no tats. She speaks English without accent, probably grew up in US.

Adrianna did not show so I was walking the club, made my standard offer to a number of girls, but was all rejected. A few of my regulars were in the club and would do my deal, but I wanted to try new girls all the time and only keep them as reserves. While waiting for Adriana I sucked down 3 beers so my stomach started to feel queasy; my libido and the health of my dick became questionable. Went out for food. It was too cold, there were not too many choices for food and girls. Got jacked by street girl Melissa, did Alexa in a long, exhaustive session in hotel Ibiza and popped.

Came back to HK, my wingman said he just saw Adriana in the club. I went checked her out; it was indeed her but by then I was completely out of ammo, probably could not load and raise the canon hehe. The weather was just too cold, I did not feel like doing much. This plan of waiting for specific girls in HK just does not work out well, either not finding, finding all the wrong girls all the time, or always finding the right girls at the wrong times. It's better to load and lock then pick up the best available choices at the best moment of the night, when you can still do it.

Adriana is a pretty smart girl. She does not hide in the dark and bullshit with other girls like the rest of the losers. She walks around the club and positions herself in clear spots where everyone can see her beauty. Finally she convinced an old, bald-headed Mexican guy sitting at the bar and dragged him into Miami for lap dances. She really works the club hard. She's smart but may be too business-focused and could star fish, but her pretty face and beautiful body are worth at least a trial session in bed.

[Captain Solo]

Look at a sea of dollar bills in this Miami strip club. Gringos must have learned the green rain habit from Mexico strip clubs like Hong Kong. The single $ bill is now the most popular bill in highest demand and growing in the US.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/miami-strippers-wade-through-piles-of-cash-after-super-bowl-parties/

Miami strippers wade through piles of cash after Super Bowl parties.

By Natalie O'NeillFebruary 5, 2020.

1:42 pm.

Miami strippers were the real winners of Super Bowl LIV.

Pole dancers were seen wading through ankle-deep piles of cash during one of a slew of game-day bashes of debauchery — some of which drew celebrities toting boxes full of bills, videos show.

The floor of one unnamed jiggle joint appears blanketed by dollar bills as nearly nude exotic dancers saunter alongside stages in G-strings and heels, according to a video on Instagram.

Music star Post Malone — who was filmed reaching into a cardboard box while grinning and giving away giant stacks of cash — was among the patrons who made it rain extra hard during another one of the in-club parties in the Magic City.

"Let me get one!" one-strip club patron is heard shouting at the rapper, who then hands out a 6-inch-tall stack of moolah from a cardboard box.

The floor of a Miami strip club is covered in money during a party.

Former Indianapolis Colts player Edgerrin James, who owns the Miami strip club One, also joined in the over-the-top revelry by reportedly hauling plastic bags stuffed with thousands of dollars to one event — and dubbing it "Stripper Bowl."

Some patrons made a mad dash to steal the cash, pocketing it while the dancers weren't looking, video shows.

"There was too much money in there. Oh, my God!" a patron is heard saying — after stuffing dough down his pants.

Thousands of fans flocked to Miami to watch the Kansas City Chiefs defeat the San Francisco 49 ers 31-20 on Sunday.

[Dogers69]

Tuesday night HK had a few hot girls. I wanted to find Adrianna, a spinner with curly dark blonde hair, natural be boobs, light skin, no tats. She speaks English without accent, probably grew up in US.

Adrianna did not show so I was walking the club, made my standard offer to a number of girls, but was all rejected. A few of my regulars were in the club and would do my deal, but I wanted to try new girls all the time and only keep them as reserves. While waiting for Adriana I sucked down 3 beers so my stomach started to feel queasy; my libido and the health of my dick became questionable. Went out for food. It was too cold, there were not too many choices for food and girls. Got jacked by street girl Melissa, did Alexa in a long, exhaustive session in hotel Ibiza and popped.

Came back to HK, my wingman said he just saw Adriana in the club. I went checked her out; it was indeed her but by then I was completely out of ammo, probably could not load and raise the canon hehe. The weather was just too cold, I did not feel like doing much. This plan of waiting for specific girls in HK just does not work out well, either not finding, finding all the wrong girls all the time, or always finding the right girls at the wrong times. It's better to load and lock then pick up the best available choices at the best moment of the night, when you can still do it.

Adriana is a pretty smart girl. She does not hide in the dark and bullshit with other girls like the rest of the losers. She walks around the club and positions herself in clear spots where everyone can see her beauty. Finally she convinced an old, bald-headed Mexican guy sitting at the bar and dragged him into Miami for lap dances. She really works the club hard. She's smart but may be too business-focused and could star fish, but her pretty face and beautiful body are worth at least a trial session in bed.You must be over 40. I wish I had been in hk in my younger days. Now, the beer seriously diminishes my desire, and ability, especially if its robotic sex. But the beers help with the 2nd hand smoke so I need them to avoid a headache. With V pill, though, even after drinking, if the girl is good, and does BBBJ and isn't fat, and it's my own room (clean sheets) I can still go 2 or 3 times in hour half. But she needs to be GFE essentially.

[KC Questor]

I've noticed dozens and dozens and dozens of posts of yours (carping about 15 HK citas) where you share your vast expertise obtained from your two whole trips to Tijuana.

Why is it that you could time your sessions, to prevent getting shorted, only in Montreal, but not in Tijuana?He's been doing it for ages. Meanwhile I just got back from a week in Tijuana and only had one session out of 10 where the girl tried to short me on time. And she was an Adelita girl, not Hong Kong. In fact, the HK girls all were fine going the full 45 minutes (I have VIP). During my final HK cita, after I had already checked out of the hotel I forgot to mention my VIP when I booked the short time room. So when the guy knocked at 30 minutes the girl told the guy to go away and come back later!

If you have a good relationship with the girls and are respectful of them, they usually won't try to hustle you for time. Also, if it is Saturday night and they want to go make more money, I can see that. But I stay the fuck away from HK on a weekend night.

[The Tall Man]

Look at a sea of dollar bills in this Miami strip club. Gringos must have learned the green rain habit from Mexico strip clubs like Hong Kong. The single $ bill is now the most popular bill in highest demand and growing in the US.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/miami-strippers-wade-through-piles-of-cash-after-super-bowl-parties/

Miami strippers wade through piles of cash after Super Bowl parties.

By Natalie O'NeillFebruary 5, 2020.

1:42 pm.

Miami strippers were the real winners of Super Bowl LIV.

Pole dancers were seen wading through ankle-deep piles of cash during one of a slew of game-day bashes of debauchery some of which drew celebrities toting boxes full of bills, videos show.

The floor of one unnamed jiggle joint appears blanketed by dollar bills as nearly nude exotic dancers saunter alongside stages in G-strings and heels, according to a video on Instagram..Wow incredible and there must be ten thousand Mexican chicas sitting in their dirt floor pueblos all through Mexico who see this and just booked their next bus out of their home city and headed to Tijuana.

As for Superbowl I spent it in a club in Poblado Medellin.

The Tall Man.

[Captain Solo]

Got to admit the first time I saw green rains was in Hong Kong Club. Never saw this kinds of rains before in the US' strip clubs, but I have not gone to strip clubs in years.

You are right. Thousands of sweet things in Mexico are drooling of crossing the river and make it beeg in USA hehe.

[Dogers69]

Got to admit the first time I saw green rains was in Hong Kong Club. Never saw this kinds of rains before in the US' strip clubs, but I have not gone to strip clubs in years.

You are right. Thousands of sweet things in Mexico are drooling of crossing the river and make it beeg in USA hehe.I think you misunderstood his post. He's saying the girls want to hit Tijuana to make that bar girl $. Most if not every Tijuana girl, would last one shift in a USA strip club before they ran back to mexico. The rent for an apartment goes from 200 month to 1800 for studio, no more free health insurance, they would need to do lap dances and strip in the stage to get money, no more "one dollar" begging while walking around HK. No more 15 minute sex for 80 to 120 dollars. Their income would be cut by 2/3 rds for all but the 9, 10 looking girls. I've never met a bar girl even hint at wishing she could get a visa for USA. They take off to Europe without visa anyway if they want to see something different.

[DramaFree11]

Very true, I have also talked about the transition from Mexico or Europe to the states for girls. It would be extremely difficult sounds easy, but huge difference, especially for girls. Everyone thinks it is easy to pick up an move to the States, but as you mentioned expensive and a lot of hard work.

We all complain about American girls, but when it comes to work, most girls from other countries can just not keep up for a many different reasons. I still have trouble hooking up with American Girls after spending so much time oversees.

As far as 9's /10's that are actual models, they can make money any where with a little effort. A lot of guys get confused and rate girls way too high, 9's /10's are in there own league. Great Report.


I think you misunderstood his post. He's saying the girls want to hit Tijuana to make that bar girl $. Most if not every Tijuana girl, would last one shift in a USA strip club before they ran back to mexico. The rent for an apartment goes from 200 month to 1800 for studio, no more free health insurance, they would need to do lap dances and strip in the stage to get money, no more "one dollar" begging while walking around HK. No more 15 minute sex for 80 to 120 dollars. Their income would be cut by 2/3 rds for all but the 9, 10 looking girls. I've never met a bar girl even hint at wishing she could get a visa for USA. They take off to Europe without visa anyway if they want to see something different.

[Captain Solo]

Dodgers.

I understood what Tallman said. Not all girls in HK are allowed to strip, only a small percentage of girls are paid for that job. Most times strippers make only a few $ tip, but last Christmas and New Year have had many big green rains on them. I extended his thought by having the girls go directly for the pile of tips in the US.

Most strippers in Socal are Latinas. A well-known 100% nude strip joint has been bringing Latinas from Central and South America, some very beautiful girls, who spoke no English, to strip for them. I met a very beautiful Argentinian, speaking good English, who claimed to be a graduate MD from BsAs, stripping for some income while waiting for medical residency in the US. She also did lap dances and screwed for $300 on the large couch bed in the back. Her MD claim may be a crock full of shit, but she was nice, smart, speak good English, and very pretty, like the other South American girls there.

I don't know how they recruit and arrange for these girls, may be tourist visas and put them up in an apartment for a couple months until their visas run out. The Club charges $10 cover plus 2 non alco drinks min and $50 per 1-song full nude lap dance. But the girls are beautiful, and they have been making lots of money for the last 30 years or so. You know which club, right? The owner has been sued many times by the city every year, but he has been making a lot of money with his Latina strippers and would not give up.

[Aviator400]

I think you misunderstood his post. He's saying the girls want to hit Tijuana to make that bar girl $. Most if not every Tijuana girl, would last one shift in a USA strip club before they ran back to mexico. The rent for an apartment goes from 200 month to 1800 for studio, no more free health insurance, they would need to do lap dances and strip in the stage to get money, no more "one dollar" begging while walking around HK. No more 15 minute sex for 80 to 120 dollars. Their income would be cut by 2/3 rds for all but the 9, 10 looking girls. I've never met a bar girl even hint at wishing she could get a visa for USA. They take off to Europe without visa anyway if they want to see something different.I have. Multiple girls have asked my help in getting visas for the USA. Most say they want to go to Las Vegas and make big money without having to suck dick. Most of them would starve or have to revert to their Mexican "instincts. " I try to inject some reality, but they "have friends in Las Vegas that tell me that they are making a fortune. " Otherwise, I cannot offer them anything more when they ask for $700 to pay a lawyer who says he can guarantee them a visa. I tell them that in addition to the visa, it would have to be a work visa or a green card. Nevada requires a background check and a sheriff's card to work the clubs. It doesn't dissuade them. Of course, if they want the $700 from me, it would have to be quid pro quo.

[Dcrist0527]

I have. Multiple girls have asked my help in getting visas for the USA. Most say they want to go to Las Vegas and make big money without having to suck dick. Most of them would starve or have to revert to their Mexican "instincts. " I try to inject some reality, but they "have friends in Las Vegas that tell me that they are making a fortune. " Otherwise, I cannot offer them anything more when they ask for $700 to pay a lawyer who says he can guarantee them a visa. I tell them that in addition to the visa, it would have to be a work visa or a green card. Nevada requires a background check and a sheriff's card to work the clubs. It doesn't dissuade them. Of course, if they want the $700 from me, it would have to be quid pro quo.It surprises me how uninformed the BGs are about the visa process. I can tell you that HK brings in some contacts for these girls to help them with visas. While that doesn't make much sense to me, I know it too be true. What is also crazy is the money they charge these girls. I don't know any that actually gained a visa from these "contacts". But the chicas pay $800 for advice from these people, just to start the process. And their advice is worthless. But there are some that at least start chasing the dream. I really wonder if HK gets a cut of that.

[Travv]

"The public charge concept was first established by Congress in 1882 in order to allow the USA Government to deny a USA Visa to anyone who "is likely at any time to become a public charge" — but without defining what "public charge" means. Under the Trump administration, the "Public Charge rule" is being interpreted broadly to reduce the number of people who are eligible for green cards and other visas, by redefining what makes them dependent on government benefits — or "likely" to be in the future. . . " Also, any American who sponsors chicas or wives is now personally liable for their use of welfare or other government benefits aka recovery of public support costs. Helping chicas get jobs in the USA sounds great until you get billed for their signing up for EBT cards or whatever. Be careful out there! Don't be a PLM!

Seen a couple of guys marry foreign women, bring them back to the USA as their sponsor, then they get hit with divorce papers, alimony, child support a few years later and now they are going to be liable to pay back any welfare as the sponsor. . . Lots of risk for PLM types! Don't let the little head do your thinking!


I have. Multiple girls have asked my help in getting visas for the USA. Most say they want to go to Las Vegas and make big money without having to suck dick. Most of them would starve or have to revert to their Mexican "instincts. " I try to inject some reality, but they "have friends in Las Vegas that tell me that they are making a fortune. " Otherwise, I cannot offer them anything more when they ask for $700 to pay a lawyer who says he can guarantee them a visa. I tell them that in addition to the visa, it would have to be a work visa or a green card. Nevada requires a background check and a sheriff's card to work the clubs. It doesn't dissuade them. Of course, if they want the $700 from me, it would have to be quid pro quo.

[Theo TheMonger]

Guys,

I have read here that girls take way more in dollars than in pesos for the same time & services.

When I was frequenting Montreal, I quickly learned that the Travelex booths in the airports were highway (airport) robbery, their bid / ask spreads a mile wide. I went to Montreal and marched up and down St. Catherine street and soon found a few legit full security secure stores that traded US / Canadian dollars for *much* tighter spreads, lower cost etc.

Whats the best means / place to change currencies? I will be driving into San Diego and will be walking across the border, via the bridge.

Thank you in advance for any color and details.

Theo.

[DramaFree11]

Forgot how much fun Hk can be. Had 4 sessions, 1 total GFE experience. 3 of the girls I have been with before, all very hot. Minus the trip to the Casino and played blackjack with some of the worst players in the world. Some how manage to break even.

Let's talk about service.

1. Arrive 9 pm guys at the desk hooked me up with nice room. Everyone said Hello, and helpful.

2. Then he gave me a bunch of drink tickets at Azul, awesome. 2 for one drinks, another way to save some money.

3. Guys ironed my shirt, for small tip. Both Saturday and Sunday.

4. Go to my bartender upstairs, gives me hug. Again small tip.

5. Security shakes my hand.

Been said several times Saturday are not the best, just too many dudes, but you still can not beat the experience. I real do not even go in Hk much now, hang out at Azul and Sports Bar.

[Goyo61]

I want to check out new girls in the bar but once I have been with a same girl a few times they recognize you and I feel guilty not asking them to screw again. I guess they know we are "men" and we just crave new girls so maybe I should not feel guilty at all? Anyone else experience this little bad feeling of guilt?

Same goes for girls from the alley I have taking to the hotel. I see them in the Alley again while hunting for new girls and feel a bit obligated.

Goyo.

[RonFromSichuan]

I want to check out new girls in the bar but once I have been with a same girl a few times they recognize you and I feel guilty not asking them to screw again. I guess they know we are "men" and we just crave new girls so maybe I should not feel guilty at all? Anyone else experience this little bad feeling of guilt?

Same goes for girls from the alley I have taking to the hotel. I see them in the Alley again while hunting for new girls and feel a bit obligated.

Goyo.Do you acknowledge these girls when you run into them again, even if you don't plan on taking them up for the night? You mention you have session with these girls a few times already, I assume they are giving you great service. I do not think these girls care that you are not going up with them every time, but if you are worried about that, I would tip them $1 or $2 along with a kiss when I run into then, then continue moving onward. This will help ensure you are in good standing with them next time you decide to session with them.

[OrganicAlo]

I want to check out new girls in the bar but once I have been with a same girl a few times they recognize you and I feel guilty not asking them to screw again. I guess they know we are "men" and we just crave new girls so maybe I should not feel guilty at all? Anyone else experience this little bad feeling of guilt?

Same goes for girls from the alley I have taking to the hotel. I see them in the Alley again while hunting for new girls and feel a bit obligated.

Goyo.Don't feel guilty, they just want your money and you just want some pussy. I only ever do repeats when I'm starting to get too buzzed, haven't had a lay yet, and I'm not getting lucky with a match. Usually just say Hi and ask the ladies how they are doing, then excuse myself LOL. Although, there is this girl I met there last week, she's been working every time I've gone in my 15 trips over the last year, finally took her up and she was hella cool. Would definitely repeat with her at the start of every trip.

[Watnow78]

Guys,

I have read here that girls take way more in dollars than in pesos for the same time & services.

When I was frequenting Montreal, I quickly learned that the Travelex booths in the airports were highway (airport) robbery, their bid / ask spreads a mile wide. I went to Montreal and marched up and down St. Catherine street and soon found a few legit full security secure stores that traded US / Canadian dollars for *much* tighter spreads, lower cost etc.

Whats the best means / place to change currencies? I will be driving into San Diego and will be walking across the border, via the bridge.

Thank you in advance for any color and details.

Theo.There is a place I go to that is down the street from hotel Nelson. When paying in dollars for street girls, they will ask for $20. But I always convert my money and offer 200 pesos, which ends up being $10-$11 US dollars.

[Captain Solo]

Goyo,

You think your girls feel guilty fucking 10 other guys a night right in front of you?

They know you are paying for sex with them in a market. They don't have to be faithful to you. But most would try to claim to be your exclusive girls in HK, making you feel guilty so you will spend money on them and not others.

If you run into girls you have done before with their seductive smiles, all you are obligated to is a civilized smile and a nod, perhaps also propinas for a greeting, kiss, squeeze and hug. I feel warm and conspiring friendships with them but not loyalty or faithfulness.

[Dogers69]

I want to check out new girls in the bar but once I have been with a same girl a few times they recognize you and I feel guilty not asking them to screw again. I guess they know we are "men" and we just crave new girls so maybe I should not feel guilty at all? Anyone else experience this little bad feeling of guilt?

Same goes for girls from the alley I have taking to the hotel. I see them in the Alley again while hunting for new girls and feel a bit obligated.

Goyo.When I was a newbie 4 years ago, I slightly felt bad, only for the ones giving me free extras, but I never banged one out of guilt. Many times I've walked in watching them making out with guys, or going upstairs with a guy. As soon as a girl bangs me for just a few drinks and no $$, ill worry about her feelings. Besides none of them like me, I'm older, make less $$ then they do, and am not mexican.

[KC Questor]

Whats the best means / place to change currencies? I will be driving into San Diego and will be walking across the border, via the bridge.If you are going with street girls, pesos are definitely the way to go. If you are dealing with local businesses in other parts of the city, pesos are definitely the way to go. In the bars and clubs of the Zona Norte, unless you are really concerned about penny pinching and are good with figures, just stick to dollars. The bars actually peg their prices the the US currency, so drinks are not any cheaper in pesos. Girls ask for dollars and most are smart enough to convert. I had a girl ask me for $80 on my last trip and I offered 1400 pesos (about $77). She got out a calculator and said it would be 1440 pesos. Sure, some girls may take a little less in pesos, but that is mitigated by the risk you take of trying to do mental math multiplying or dividing by 18.5. It's tempting to just use 20 for simplicity, but then you end up screwing yourself (offering 1600 for $80, for example). Street girls are different, as they will ask $30 but accept 300 pesos ($17).

As far as where to exchange, unless you are changing thousands of dollars, it makes very little difference. If you are changing $200 at 18.4 you will get 3680 p. At 18.2 it is 3640 p, which is a 20 p (or $1) difference. Is saving a dollar worth worrying about where to make the exchange? Not to me. I exchange at the kiosk right at the border. I could walk a block to save a couple of bucks (I usually change $500), but I rarely bother.

[WombatEd2]

I finally found some places where dollars get you a better deal than pesos.

In bars where the tipo de cambio is 19:1, the bartenders often round that up to 20:1, charging you 80 pesos for a $4 beer.

I always ask for both prices, and pinch my pinchi centavos accordingly.

[Goyo61]

Thanks for the great tips on dealing with the guilt. Just being nice and saying Hello, is the way to go. They understand "we are men" so many of us have wandering eye's.

On Sunday I asked one of the street girls I have been with a couple times. How many customers she has had that day and if they were gringo's and she said 3 Mexican guys and one Gringo. (me). Did not surprise me and I can be they paid half the price I did.

Still love the little prettier girls from HK but nice to mix it up a bit at times.

Goyo.


Don't feel guilty, they just want your money and you just want some pussy. I only ever do repeats when I'm starting to get too buzzed, haven't had a lay yet, and I'm not getting lucky with a match. Usually just say Hi and ask the ladies how they are doing, then excuse myself LOL. Although, there is this girl I met there last week, she's been working every time I've gone in my 15 trips over the last year, finally took her up and she was hella cool. Would definitely repeat with her at the start of every trip.