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ScatManDoo
03-21-20, 06:43
You mean I should not have been DFK'ing the chicas I bought fichas over the span of a few hours?I wish I knew enough Spanish to explain to the chicas that I wanted to finger her with my freshly washed, virus free hands.
You mean I should not have been DFK'ing the chicas I bought fichas over the span of a few hours?So I take it night 2 went well? LOL.
How was it past 8 pm?
LuvMexicanas
03-21-20, 15:08
So I take it night 2 went well? LOL.
How was it past 8 pm?Not sure as I headed back to my room on Revo late afternoon for a nap. I went to dinner after waking up and then it was escorts with the final chica being the one from the previous night for TLN. Like you bro as I'm sure you're thinking of this too, I'm sad for the chicas who will soon be in desperate need of money. Many are decent simple girls who have no other skills. As the Major Tom song goes, the countdown starts until all of us start receiving desperate requests for money. The difference is it will be legit as opposed to the typical mom, kid or the chica herself is really sick ploy to get money.
DramaFree11
03-21-20, 18:33
Not sure as I headed back to my room on Revo late afternoon for a nap. I went to dinner after waking up and then it was escorts with the final chica being the one from the previous night for TLN. Like you bro as I'm sure you're thinking of this too, I'm sad for the chicas who will soon be in desperate need of money. Many are decent simple girls who have no other skills. As the Major Tom song goes, the countdown starts until all of us start receiving desperate requests for money. The difference is it will be legit as opposed to the typical mom, kid or the chica herself is really sick ploy to get money.You guys are insane to be hanging out at HK, with the Virus spreading rapidly, you are playing with Fire. Just not worth the risk.
LuvMexicanas
03-21-20, 19:30
I wish I knew enough Spanish to explain to the chicas that I wanted to finger her with my freshly washed, virus free hands.Just put your hand down there and go for it man albeit be gentle and it helps if you don't have meat hooks that look like you've been working in an auto shop all day.
LuvMexicanas
03-21-20, 21:39
You guys are insane to be hanging out at HK, with the Virus spreading rapidly, you are playing with Fire. Just not worth the risk.Insane in the membrane for sure but I've been called worse. Look bro, we all have a different tolerance for risk and mine just happens to be higher than yours. But remember that with risk comes reward. I bet my last 48 hours were a lot better than yours.
MedalloPack
03-22-20, 17:37
LuvMexicanas. How many women are still working on a weekend night in HK?
LuvMexicanas. How many women are still working on a weekend night in HK?There was easily 100 girls working inside the club on Friday. Wasn't dead but was slower than normal. All of the upstairs areas in the club were closed. I was there until midnight and only saw a handful of Americans. Most customers were (or at least looked) Mexican. Street girls seemed very busy. I had dinner outside at Azul at about 5 pm and saw more street girls than ever before and they seemed pretty active.
Border crossing (pedwest) back to the US was deserted at 10;30 am Saturday.
Captain Solo
03-22-20, 20:38
MoreyKid,
Still 100 girls in HK? They probably follow AMLO's advice and just ignore CoronaVirus. Bar girls are far more likely to do a lot of risky things in bed with clients, sucking, licking, DFKs, DATYs, Beso Negros, BBBJ, BBFS, They are high risks.
Street girls' clients are mostly blue-collared Mexicans. They probably think Virus won't hurt them and just don't care if it does. Street girls have always been more conservative, no sucking, no kissing, no bare back anything ect. Like they have been well-warned by health workers. A few street walkers always have red and watery eyes, indicating fever and infections. They may have died off.
It may be a long wait for information confirming the virus has been wiped out.
Insane in the membrane for sure but I've been called worse. Look bro, we all have a different tolerance for risk and mine just happens to be higher than yours. But remember that with risk comes reward. I bet my last 48 hours were a lot better than yours.Look "bro" with all due respect it's not just about you and your "tolerance for risk" you big tough macho man.
Quarantining and social distancing is required to prevent spreading the virus FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.
It's highly dangerous and extremely irresponsible to be partying in crowded clubs risking spreading this HIGHLY HIGHLY contagious virus.
You could catch the virus, then spread it to 100 people BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INFECTED. And out of those 100 people at least 5 of them are guaranteed to DIE.
DramaFree11
03-23-20, 03:05
Look "bro" with all due respect it's not just about you and your "tolerance for risk" you big tough macho man.
Quarantining and social distancing is required to prevent spreading the virus FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.
It's highly dangerous and extremely irresponsible to be partying in crowded clubs risking spreading this HIGHLY HIGHLY contagious virus.
You could catch the virus, then spread it to 100 people BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INFECTED. And out of those 100 people at least 5 of them are guaranteed to DIE.Well said.
LuvMexicanas
03-23-20, 03:39
Look "bro" with all due respect it's not just about you and your "tolerance for risk" you big tough macho man.
Quarantining and social distancing is required to prevent spreading the virus FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.
It's highly dangerous and extremely irresponsible to be partying in crowded clubs risking spreading this HIGHLY HIGHLY contagious virus.
You could catch the virus, then spread it to 100 people BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INFECTED. And out of those 100 people at least 5 of them are guaranteed to DIE.Don't you have better things to do than troll? Stick to South America. So random to pop on a board out of your jurisdiction straight out of the blue. SMH.
Still 100 girls in HK? They probably follow AMLO's advice and just ignore CoronaVirus. Bar girls are far more likely to do a lot of risky things in bed with clients, sucking, licking, DFKs, DATYs, Beso Negros, BBBJ, BBFS, They are high risks.I was fine with girls grinding on me and having a drink at my table but there was one particularly aggressive hoes that came over and had nasty breath in my face and then stuck her tongue in my ear. That was my time to bail and go take a long shower. Couldn't believe even a bar girl could be that dumb.
I didn't see anyone that appeared sick anywhere in Tijuana. I'm not sure how / when it will manifest itself there but obviously it's not going to be that far behind the US. Probably see an explosion 2 weeks from now.
MoreyKid,
Still 100 girls in HK? They probably follow AMLO's advice and just ignore CoronaVirus. Bar girls are far more likely to do a lot of risky things in bed with clients, sucking, licking, DFKs, DATYs, Beso Negros, BBBJ, BBFS, They are high risks.
Street girls' clients are mostly blue-collared Mexicans. They probably think Virus won't hurt them and just don't care if it does. Street girls have always been more conservative, no sucking, no kissing, no bare back anything ect. Like they have been well-warned by health workers. A few street walkers always have red and watery eyes, indicating fever and infections. They may have died off.
It may be a long wait for information confirming the virus has been wiped out.Mexico is not testing anyone unless they are freaking rich. When they see what happens to NYC the end of the week, they're going to change their tunes.
Don't know if it will matter, but the street girls are at least in the open. God help the chicas. Hope the monger that gives them the virus dies a painful death. A quick one at the end of a barrel isn't a bad second option.
Captain Solo
03-23-20, 10:12
MoreyKid.
That's what I am afraid of. HK and Chicago girls would just come over and stick their tongues in my mouth for introduction. Most bar girls don't care about their health anyway. It's easy to catch virus from them.
Like other cities, from 1 or 2 infect persons, Tijuana will blow up in infection and deaths in about 2, 3 weeks. I took the last chance on Sat March 7. Guys in my car pool decided to lay off a few weeks waiting to see CoVid19 will attack Tijuana. Get bored on weekends but don't want to get knocked out for weeks or die yet. Want to stay alive to donate orgasms to Tijuana chicas every weekend.
ScatManDoo
03-23-20, 15:06
Mexico is not testing anyone unless they are freaking rich. When they see what happens to NYC the end of the week, they're going to change their tunes.
Don't know if it will matter, but the street girls are at least in the open. God help the chicas. Hope the monger that gives them the virus dies a painful death. A quick one at the end of a barrel isn't a bad second option.Than you must favor punishment for Rand Paul.
At the same time he was waiting for the confirmation of his own personal infection with COVID-19 (due to his exposure), he ran all over Washington, District of Columbia. Eating lunch in the Senate cafeteria and working out in the Senate's gym, when the asshole should have been self-isolating him self. If the Senate takes sick. Point the finger at libertarian Rand Paul that hates our government!
Look "bro" with all due respect it's not just about you and your "tolerance for risk" you big tough macho man.
Quarantining and social distancing is required to prevent spreading the virus FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.
It's highly dangerous and extremely irresponsible to be partying in crowded clubs risking spreading this HIGHLY HIGHLY contagious virus.
You could catch the virus, then spread it to 100 people BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INFECTED. And out of those 100 people at least 5 of them are guaranteed to DIE.Agreed. We cannot stop the virus from killing off the chicas if we continue to infect them with our contact.
LuvMexicanas
03-23-20, 22:28
Agreed. We cannot stop the virus from killing off the chicas if we continue to infect them with our contact.Seriously, you need to chill on being dramatic. On 3/19 in the general thread you said they'll lock down the border to "everyone standing on the other side. " That didn't happen. You even wished good luck to all Americans stuck on the other side when in reality citizens and lawful permanent residents are the first group listed in the essential travel order as OK to enter the USA. You even amazingly cited a threat to national security to support your claim of a lockdown in a couple of days. Well, that didn't happen either. Now you're worried about killing off chicas as if the virus will wipe them all out. Like I said before, I usually enjoy reading your posts and for the most part you're on point, but I think you're wandering into overly dramatic territory which isn't a good look.
LivingFossil
03-23-20, 22:42
Fossil.
Looks like you had fun in HK and Chicago and a few sexy, energetic sessions with hot girls. Glad you did well!
HK manages to recruit a lot of hot girls from all over Mexico to come to Tijuana to work, something other Tijuana bars have not been able to do, and gives them a lot of liberty and discretion, thereby creates a fun, sexy, happy venue for both workers and clients. HK's $100 for girls and $20 for 30 minutes in the room is high, but strangely in other cities, Cancun, Cabo etc prices are even higher. They remain high because guys are paying them without negotiation. But if you go to HK often and the girls know you, lots of them would do local deals which is about half Gringo's.
How would you compare Tijuana and Medellin in terms of the girls hotness, size of selection and availability, fun factor, convenience, costs, activities?Tijuana is better in that its the best best mongering spot close to the USA and I don't think any club in Colombia has as many hot girls to choose from like HK.
Medellin is a much better city, local girls are stunning, girls are cheaper, just by walking in a party area like Parque LLeras and pull lot of hot girls who are just walking around, more exotic country feel, better semi pro scene maybe?
There's not much to do in Tijuana outside of mongering and nothing very interesting that is close, the local girls are trash too.
It was my first time going just a few weeks ago and want to good back soon!
A lot of girls and mongers don't care about catching Corona. Mongering activities can be high risk!
A I'm not afraid to catch it but I def don't want to get others sick. But I'll def buy plane tickets to SD when this all clears for a future date hopefully they'll still be cheap.
Look "bro" with all due respect it's not just about you and your "tolerance for risk" you big tough macho man.
Quarantining and social distancing is required to prevent spreading the virus FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.
It's highly dangerous and extremely irresponsible to be partying in crowded clubs risking spreading this HIGHLY HIGHLY contagious virus.
You could catch the virus, then spread it to 100 people BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INFECTED. And out of those 100 people at least 5 of them are guaranteed to DIE.This is all fear mongering (no pun intended). Coronavirus isn't more deadly than the common flu, it's just more contagious due to those infected being asymptomatic for several days. The average age of the those dying is 78! Hospitals are being overwhelmed because many are getting contracted all at once due to contagiousness, but those are cases of people with serious existing health issues who were on their way out anyway. To think these people are going to live forever 'cause you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. You are more at risk of dying in a car crash than of this virus. Simply bolster your immune system, cause you're probably going to get it anyway and not even notice. Go out and have fun for your immune system's sake.
Captain Solo
03-23-20, 23:16
Frogg,
Medical researchers in China found people recovered from CoVid19 had the bottoms of their lungs scarred by the virus, reducing lungs capacity by 30%. That will proportionately reduces their strengths and life spans.
There are a lot of unknowns about this virus. Until the pandemic is definitely gone and we know more about its effects, try not to cut short your mongering career and those of millions people having fun in La Zona.
This is all fear mongering (no pun intended). Coronavirus isn't more deadly than the common flu, it's just more contagious due to those infected being asymptomatic for several days. The average age of the those dying is 78! Hospitals are being overwhelmed because many are getting contracted all at once due to contagiousness, but those are cases of people with serious existing health issues who were on their way out anyway. To think these people are going to live forever 'cause you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. You are more at risk of dying in a car crash than of this virus. Simply bolster your immune system, cause you're probably going to get it anyway and not even notice. Go out and have fun for your immune system's sake.So basically what you're saying is as long as you're strong and healthy it's ok to risk catching corona virus and spreading it to hundreds of people because it will only kill elderly people and sick people "who were on their way out anyway"?
Am I understanding you correctly? Are you actually being serious with that post?
It absolutely blows my mind that you actually think like that and that you actually have the audacity to say it publicly.
This is all fear mongering (no pun intended). Coronavirus isn't more deadly than the common flu, it's just more contagious due to those infected being asymptomatic for several days. The average age of the those dying is 78! Hospitals are being overwhelmed because many are getting contracted all at once due to contagiousness, but those are cases of people with serious existing health issues who were on their way out anyway. To think these people are going to live forever 'cause you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. You are more at risk of dying in a car crash than of this virus. Simply bolster your immune system, cause you're probably going to get it anyway and not even notice. Go out and have fun for your immune system's sake.You made it this far in life due to luck. It ain't because you remotely used your brain. He's talking about ethics and morality. You are talking about personal risk.
The border is closed. It doesn't even matter ATM. I'm going through withdrawals from HK.
ClamSlammer
03-24-20, 02:30
So basically what you're saying is as long as you're strong and healthy it's ok to risk catching corona virus and spreading it to hundreds of people because it will only kill elderly people and sick people "who were on their way out anyway"?
Am I understanding you correctly? Are you actually being serious with that post?
It absolutely blows my mind that you actually think like that and that you actually have the audacity to say it publicly.You can blame Fox News Syndrome for this one. The extremely feeble-minded are especially susceptible to the propaganda spewed by Fox News in order to protect a President who dismissed the coronavirus threat even as his Intelligence chiefs were imploring him to take action in January. "It's just like the flu. " "It will go away miraculously. " "Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number. Now, this is just my hunch. " "Some of them go to work, but they get better."
For the sake of everybody that visits our adult Disneyland let's all please exercise some restraint for the next couple of weeks. We may not know each other personally but we should all bear some responsibility to keep each other safe. If there were a police shake downs or a storm of STD's running through the zona we would all post about it here. Let's keep our community safe until we know for sure what the danger is or isn't. An ounce Also think about the ramifications of you are infecting or get infected by somebody. If you have any sense of decency or care about the people that work and play in the zona. This is a humanitarian crisis weather it is being blown out of proportion or exploited for political reasons is besides the point. The reality is that it is here and probably will be for some time. As tempting as it may be to partake I'm doing my part by abstaining until I know conditions are safer.
MongerHunger
03-24-20, 02:40
Do you have any elderly relatives or people with underlying preexisting health conditions? Do you even care about what this virus can do to them. It sounds like you don't give a damn about them or anyone else. Just selfishly thinking about yourself.
This is all fear mongering (no pun intended). Coronavirus isn't more deadly than the common flu, it's just more contagious due to those infected being asymptomatic for several days. The average age of the those dying is 78! Hospitals are being overwhelmed because many are getting contracted all at once due to contagiousness, but those are cases of people with serious existing health issues who were on their way out anyway. To think these people are going to live forever 'cause you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. You are more at risk of dying in a car crash than of this virus. Simply bolster your immune system, cause you're probably going to get it anyway and not even notice. Go out and have fun for your immune system's sake.
DramaFree11
03-24-20, 02:45
Tijuana is better in that its the best best mongering spot close to the USA and I don't think any club in Colombia has as many hot girls to choose from like HK.
Medellin is a much better city, local girls are stunning, girls are cheaper, just by walking in a party area like Parque LLeras and pull lot of hot girls who are just walking around, more exotic country feel, better semi pro scene maybe?
There's not much to do in Tijuana outside of mongering and nothing very interesting that is close, the local girls are trash too.
It was my first time going just a few weeks ago and want to good back soon!
A lot of girls and mongers don't care about catching Corona. Mongering activities can be high risk!
A I'm not afraid to catch it but I def don't want to get others sick. But I'll def buy plane tickets to SD when this all clears for a future date hopefully they'll still be cheap.Sorry, disagree girls are way better looking in Tijuana, not even close. Once you get out of the zone up by the race track and golf course you can see some real stunners, these ladies are locals. Many of these girls are spoiled and not looking for foreign guys, but trashy no way. These girls have options, unlike many in MDE and way more Educated. , There are lots of things to do in Tijuana and surrounding spots, way better then MDE and you do not pay gringo tax like you do in MDE.
LA Times: Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: 'We're going to be fine'.
22 March.
"Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.
Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.
"What we need is to control the panic," he said. In the grand scheme, "we're going to be fine. ".
But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.
He fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down. ".
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate
Those who stocked up on Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine can prevent Wuflu infection by taking the meds in advance to stop the virus from infecting them. Soon the meds will be available again in the pharmacies for those who didn't buy in time. Those who are in the high risk categories, such as Asians, elderly, or smokers, should definitely shelter themselves and stop all travel.
This is all fear mongering (no pun intended). Coronavirus isn't more deadly than the common flu, it's just more contagious due to those infected being asymptomatic for several days. The average age of the those dying is 78! Hospitals are being overwhelmed because many are getting contracted all at once due to contagiousness, but those are cases of people with serious existing health issues who were on their way out anyway. To think these people are going to live forever 'cause you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. You are more at risk of dying in a car crash than of this virus. Simply bolster your immune system, cause you're probably going to get it anyway and not even notice. Go out and have fun for your immune system's sake.
This is all fear mongering (no pun intended). Coronavirus isn't more deadly than the common flu, it's just more contagious due to those infected being asymptomatic for several days. The average age of the those dying is 78! Hospitals are being overwhelmed because many are getting contracted all at once due to contagiousness, but those are cases of people with serious existing health issues who were on their way out anyway. To think these people are going to live forever 'cause you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. You are more at risk of dying in a car crash than of this virus. Simply bolster your immune system, cause you're probably going to get it anyway and not even notice. Go out and have fun for your immune system's sake.Because Frogg knows more about epidemics than all the doctors and scientists who've made a career out of trying to protect us from pandemics! (not).
Please, sir. If you don't know what you're talking about, maybe you should try listening, instead!
Member #4722
03-24-20, 05:16
So basically what you're saying is as long as you're strong and healthy it's ok to risk catching corona virus and spreading it to hundreds of people because it will only kill elderly people and sick people "who were on their way out anyway"?
Am I understanding you correctly? Are you actually being serious with that post?
It absolutely blows my mind that you actually think like that and that you actually have the audacity to say it publicly.You have to remember this is a mongering forum and there are going to be quite a few people here that don't give a shit about anything but their own good time.
So basically what you're saying is as long as you're strong and healthy it's ok to risk catching corona virus and spreading it to hundreds of people because it will only kill elderly people and sick people "who were on their way out anyway"?
Am I understanding you correctly? Are you actually being serious with that post?
It absolutely blows my mind that you actually think like that and that you actually have the audacity to say it publicly.Basically, yes. I'm not naive to think that 80 year old men are going to live forever because you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. All the lockdown is good for is prolonging the lives of terminally ill patients by a few weeks, meanwhile businesses are being ruined, jobs and mortgages lost, marriages and families destroyed. More lives are being saved from lack of traffic accidents now that people don't drive to work or school than from prevented cases of covid-19. Mexican president AMLO is basically on the same page and encouraging Mexicans to continue life as normal. I applaud him for keeping the HK open for business. Yes, there are seniors and sick people in my family. Guess what? They're going to die whether I go to the HK or not! I'm far more scared of Mexican cops and organized crime than of the China virus. Don't bother with fraidy cat doctors and politicians who peddle in fear and want to tell others how to live their lives, talking about diminished lung capacity, which is probably fake news anyway. These are same people who told you that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Osama Bin Laden did 9/11. What baloney that turned out to be.
Basically, yes. I'm not naive to think that 80 year old men are going to live forever because you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. All the lockdown is good for is prolonging the lives of terminally ill patients by a few weeks, meanwhile businesses are being ruined, jobs and mortgages lost, marriages and families destroyed. More lives are being saved from lack of traffic accidents now that people don't drive to work or school than from prevented cases of covid-19. Mexican president AMLO is basically on the same page and encouraging Mexicans to continue life as normal. I applaud him for keeping the HK open for business. Yes, there are seniors and sick people in my family. Guess what? They're going to die whether I go to the HK or not! I'm far more scared of Mexican cops and organized crime than of the China virus. Don't bother with fraidy cat doctors and politicians who peddle in fear and want to tell others how to live their lives, talking about diminished lung capacity, which is probably fake news anyway. These are same people who told you that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Osama Bin Laden did 9/11. What baloney that turned out to be.This blithe take on things is unfortunate. I was thinking about heading to ZN, but I reconsidered after listening to the math of this particular situation. This thing spreads exponentially.
While it's true that the deaths are mostly older people, there are plenty of reports of not-so-old people dying. And we're talking millions of lives saved if all of us cooperate to not spread it around.
Here's a guy who articulates the math in a very easy-to-understand way:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/coronavirus-cases-one-59000-hugh-montgomery-a4395196.html
ClamSlammer
03-24-20, 21:26
Basically, yes. I'm not naive to think that 80 year old men are going to live forever because you stop going to the Hong Kong Club. All the lockdown is good for is prolonging the lives of terminally ill patients by a few weeks, meanwhile businesses are being ruined, jobs and mortgages lost, marriages and families destroyed. More lives are being saved from lack of traffic accidents now that people don't drive to work or school than from prevented cases of covid-19. Mexican president AMLO is basically on the same page and encouraging Mexicans to continue life as normal. I applaud him for keeping the HK open for business. Yes, there are seniors and sick people in my family. Guess what? They're going to die whether I go to the HK or not! I'm far more scared of Mexican cops and organized crime than of the China virus. Don't bother with fraidy cat doctors and politicians who peddle in fear and want to tell others how to live their lives, talking about diminished lung capacity, which is probably fake news anyway. These are same people who told you that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Osama Bin Laden did 9/11. What baloney that turned out to be.Okay so you're saying that since everyone is eventually going to die anyway, it's okay if they die today vs. 80 years from now? It makes no difference? Forgive me, but I didn't realize that you are God and that you know exactly when everyone is going to die. An 80 year old may live to be 110. BTW, the WHO has determined that people over 65 are especially susceptible to the virus, not just people over 80. USA Life expectancy is 79 years. So you're equating 14 years to "a few weeks. " Just idiotic. BTW the only people who said that Saddam had WMD were Bush and his closest circle. Everyone else in his administration, including his spy chiefs, insisted that there were no WMD. But W wanted an excuse to finish a war his father failed to finish. And anybody with a single live brain cell knows that bin Laden and al Qaida were responsible for 9/11. You got to be dumb as fuck to think the USA Government flew planes into their own buildings.
One of the gals I stay in touch with just sent me the message. I do not know any details yet.
One of the gals I stay in touch with just sent me the message. I do not know any details yet.Confirmed.
Member #4722
03-25-20, 02:46
One of the gals I stay in touch with just sent me the message. I do not know any details yet.Interesting that they make it clear the hotels and Azul will remain open. Wonder if they are going to figure out another way for chicas to be available via the hotel or restaurant or else what would the point of keeping the hotels and restaurant open?
Interesting that they make it clear the hotels and Azul will remain open. Wonder if they are going to figure out another way for chicas to be available via the hotel or restaurant or else what would the point of keeping the hotels and restaurant open?Well, if Mansion and Premier stay open, then only fair that Cascadas remain open. Will still be spreading the virus, but not nearly as much as with the club open. Think of all the groping and close contact in the club! I would go through there and tip 20 girls! Can't wait to get back to that!
Captain Solo
03-25-20, 05:42
By City Hall's order, all bars, movie theaters, gyms, casinos, museums, churches, all gathering places are locked down, did not say how long.
https://www.borderreport.com/regions/california/city-of-tijuana-finally-goes-on-coronavirus-lockdown/
City of Tijuana 'finally' goes on coronavirus lockdown.
By: Salvador Rivera Posted: Mar 24,2020 / 05:54 PM GMT-0600 / Updated: Mar 24,2020 / 05:54 PM GMT-0600.
TIJUANA (Border Report) — With its northern neighbor, California, already on lockdown, the City of Tijuana had remained status quo and had refused to officially lock down the city to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. Until today.
The city just announced that bars, movie theaters, churches, gyms and other gathering places throughout Tijuana be closed.
City officials had been hesitant due to the fact only two coronavirus cases had been reported in previous weeks. Both cases were called "imported" because the two people who tested positive had traveled to the United States recently.
But with more and more people testing positive for Covid-19, the city finally put out the order.
The list also includes funeral homes, casinos and museums.
People are saying it "was about time" the city enacted such measures in accordance with the World Health Organization.
Tijuana's population is close to 2 million people and sits directly south of the border from San Diego.
Well, if Mansion and Premier stay open, then only fair that Cascadas remain open. Will still be spreading the virus, but not nearly as much as with the club open. Think of all the groping and close contact in the club! I would go through there and tip 20 girls! Can't wait to get back to that!I miss H K club too. I can imagine a big party when this stupid corona virus is over! My last visit was on weekend February 22.
With whistle would add more to it. American Corona virus source is Kitzloch bar in Austria ski country.
I miss H K club too. I can imagine a big party when this stupid corona virus is over! My last visit was on weekend February 22.
LuvMexicanas
03-25-20, 15:53
Interesting that they make it clear the hotels and Azul will remain open. Wonder if they are going to figure out another way for chicas to be available via the hotel or restaurant or else what would the point of keeping the hotels and restaurant open?Should there be a prize for the first monger to recognize an HK chica on Mileroticos, Mundosexanuncio, Sexoservidoras or an escort agency site?
DramaFree11
03-25-20, 16:56
I miss H K club too. I can imagine a big party when this stupid corona virus is over! My last visit was on weekend February 22.I am also having serious withdrawals. Hopefully 2-3 weeks things will start to get back to normal. If things get worse we will have bigger problems to deal with.
Dcrist0527
03-25-20, 21:01
HK management is telling chicas and meseros they will be closed 1 week. The government, however, is expecting to keep it closed for 1 month.
One other thing I wanted to mention, and I would find it comical, if not so sad. In any case, I'm not sure who the liar is. I stopped in for a couple beers last week. I was not interested in going arriba, though of course, chicas tried. One girl, whose name escapes me, told me how safe HK is. She said that HK gave all of the chicas and meseros injections and they were all safe from the virus. Now, I have heard differing claims. Some chicas I trust told me that no injections were ever offered. Though I did hear from one other chica injections were offered. In any case, it's just sad. Either these chicas are making this up to make some fool believe it or worse, HK Management is shooting these girls up with saline and telling them they are safe. Sad.
I am also having serious withdrawals. Hopefully 2-3 weeks things will start to get back to normal. If things get worse we will have bigger problems to deal with.Hong Kong needs to create a website where we can watch the girls in the club dance, with no men, with the music, all the girls stay 6 feet away we can tip online, tell them what to do, drink our tecates. Remember the good old days before disease and germs ruined everything.
LuvMexicanas
03-26-20, 04:20
Hong Kong needs to create a website where we can watch the girls in the club dance, with no men, with the music, all the girls stay 6 feet away we can tip online, tell them what to do, drink our tecates. Remember the good old days before disease and germs ruined everything.I was in Tijuana less than a week ago and already going through withdrawal. I might have to do the unthinkable and bone a white girl.
Hong Kong needs to create a website where we can watch the girls in the club dance, with no men, with the music, all the girls stay 6 feet away we can tip online, tell them what to do, drink our tecates. Remember the good old days before disease and germs ruined everything.Cheer up! One year from now: Hong Kong open, stock market high, corona virus? no one remembers - and president.... uncle Joe Biden!
One year from now!I am hoping under 3 months if we all pitch in to do our part.
DramaFree11
03-26-20, 21:11
I am hoping under 3 months if we all pitch in to do our part.Month or 2 there will be some normalcy. It will be way sooner then we think, if you have money it will be a paradise. Airfare and lodging will be way cheaper. Maybe even more flexible. Airlines will be forced to change some of there insane policies, at least I hope.
BodyAnybody
03-26-20, 22:28
Month or 2 there will be some normalcy. It will be way sooner then we think, if you have money it will be a paradise. Airfare and lodging will be way cheaper. Maybe even more flexible. Airlines will be forced to change some of there insane policies, at least I hope.Seriously. If we stay locked down for 3 months, what follows will be a years long era of economic dression. I don't understand why so few people grasp this.
DramaFree11
03-27-20, 02:56
Seriously. If we stay locked down for 3 months, what follows will be a years long era of economic dression. I don't understand why so few people grasp this.In Texas we will not be locked down for 3 months, couple weeks max, maybe sooner. Time to get back work, isolate the areas were there are high infection rates, the rest of us need to get back to work ASAP. Mexico will never survive a long shutdown, they will go back sooner then later.
I am hoping under 3 months if we all pitch in to do our part.3 months sounds good. Many countries are quickly working on a vaccine or a cure for the corona virus because economic losses for the global economy are colossal. I remember living in the San Francisco bay area and total panic when the AIDS epidemic broke out. Everyone was wearing face masks on the bus and on the street. The number of dying weekly was enormous. I worked for a delivery company and many of my clients died, it was shocking for me and it changed me a lot.
China is way ahead. NY is being put to test now and others will follow.
3 months sounds good. Many countries are quickly working on a vaccine or a cure for the corona virus because economic losses for the global economy are colossal. I remember living in the San Francisco bay area and total panic when the AIDS epidemic broke out. Everyone was wearing face masks on the bus and on the street. The number of dying weekly was enormous. I worked for a delivery company and many of my clients died, it was shocking for me and it changed me a lot.
BodyAnybody
03-27-20, 05:47
3 months sounds good. Many countries are quickly working on a vaccine or a cure for the corona virus because economic losses for the global economy are colossal. I remember living in the San Francisco bay area and total panic when the AIDS epidemic broke out. Everyone was wearing face masks on the bus and on the street. The number of dying weekly was enormous. I worked for a delivery company and many of my clients died, it was shocking for me and it changed me a lot.Not trying to be combative, but 3 months doesn't sound good. 3 months sounds like global depression and mass suffering. Even this last 2 weeks had done so much damage that I can't predict how long it will reverberate through time and our economy.
I don't want to see anyone sick and I don't want to see anyone out of work. I'm living my life to enjoy all of the amazing things we have been lucky enough to have access to. A time like this is a very stark reminder of how good I have had it and it hurts to imagine how bad it could get for a lot of people all over the world.
Good luck to you, man. And good luck to the Chikas. I hope this will blow over so we can all go on and enjoy the prosperity that we knew such a short time ago.
ClamSlammer
03-27-20, 06:42
HK management is telling chicas and meseros they will be closed 1 week. The government, however, is expecting to keep it closed for 1 month.
One other thing I wanted to mention, and I would find it comical, if not so sad. In any case, I'm not sure who the liar is. I stopped in for a couple beers last week. I was not interested in going arriba, though of course, chicas tried. One girl, whose name escapes me, told me how safe HK is. She said that HK gave all of the chicas and meseros injections and they were all safe from the virus. Now, I have heard differing claims. Some chicas I trust told me that no injections were ever offered. Though I did hear from one other chica injections were offered. In any case, it's just sad. Either these chicas are making this up to make some fool believe it or worse, HK Management is shooting these girls up with saline and telling them they are safe. Sad.You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out who's lying. Obviously HK never offered any kind of injection. No one could be stupid enough to believe that HK has some sort of secret biotech lab staffed with Nobel laureates that synthesized a coronavirus vaccine months or even years ahead of the rest of the world's scientists. The putas that are claiming that they have been immunized are clearly lying to attract mongers who are skittish about contracting the virus from putas.
Dcrist0527
03-27-20, 13:18
You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out who's lying. Obviously HK never offered any kind of injection. No one could be stupid enough to believe that HK has some sort of secret biotech lab staffed with Nobel laureates that synthesized a coronavirus vaccine months or even years ahead of the rest of the world's scientists. The putas that are claiming that they have been immunized are clearly lying to attract mongers who are skittish about contracting the virus from putas.That was my first thought. And, of course I never thought HK management has the secret vaccine we all crave. But I do not discount the possibility HK could hire someone to inject the uneducated people with saline and they believe they are then immune. There is a definite difference between the US and Mexico when it comes to the understanding of, and fear of, this virus. I only give it credence because I know this wouldn't be the first scam management has pulled on its employees. They regularly scam the girls with a visa scam.
Captain Solo
03-27-20, 19:44
Dcrist,
I don't think HK management is stupid enough to inject the girls and lie to them about a deadly infection. When the girls get sick, they will squeal to Federal policia. That will bring big troubles.
You should know that most HK girls would lie and say anything to get a deal and do anything in bed. There are exceptions, but you should not count on bar girls' honesty.
That was my first thought. And, of course I never thought HK management has the secret vaccine we all crave. But I do not discount the possibility HK could hire someone to inject the uneducated people with saline and they believe they are then immune. There is a definite difference between the US and Mexico when it comes to the understanding of, and fear of, this virus. I only give it credence because I know this wouldn't be the first scam management has pulled on its employees. They regularly scam the girls with a visa scam.
Dcrist,
I don't think HK management is stupid enough to inject the girls and lie to them about a deadly infection. When the girls get sick, they will squeal to Federal policia. That will bring big troubles.
You should know that most HK girls would lie and say anything to get a deal and do anything in bed. There are exceptions, but you should not count on bar girls' honesty.
That was my first thought. And, of course I never thought HK management has the secret vaccine we all crave. But I do not discount the possibility HK could hire someone to inject the uneducated people with saline and they believe they are then immune. There is a definite difference between the US and Mexico when it comes to the understanding of, and fear of, this virus. I only give it credence because I know this wouldn't be the first scam management has pulled on its employees. They regularly scam the girls with a visa scam.There was a visa scam? What was that all about?
Bit the bullet and hooked back up with an HK girls I meet pre Corona. She said she was going back home until HK reopens. She said they were told they would be closed for at least two weeks. Plenty street girls out still most are working day shifts because the streets are literally really dark due to bar closure. Was really eerie no Banda music in streets hotel was so quiet you could hear a mouse fart. Anyhow, got a smoking deal on a TLN didn't ask her to stay either. Had breakfast at Azul with her an checked out around 1245 or so. Cruised through border in about 15 minutes. HK girls were off duty and in street clothes but still seeing their regulars in hotels. Seems this would be ideal for safety reasons since they are maybe seeing only 2-3 guys instead of the usual 5-6 and they have a good level of trust already established. On a side note we tried to get service at the side bar in the hotel lobby. Apparently there is a secluded lounge with double doors near the elevators I am assuming that is where the room service liquor comes out of. They said they can only send drinks to the room. I was able to sleep like a baby between sessions because the hotel was so quite. Anybody that has regulars I suggest you setup a a date. You can Def get a basement bargain TLN before the girls pack it in this coming week.
Dcrist0527
03-28-20, 02:50
There was a visa scam? What was that all about?It's ongoing. Management brings in some "immigration experts" to help the chicas get papers into the US. The chicas end up paying a lot of money for help they never receive. Thousands of dollars. Typically, they pay $800 up front. Management brings in these experts once a month and they sign up new chicas every month. Sad. But that's what makes me wonder if management would try to pull an injection scam to keep the chicas in the bar during a pandemic.
To Captain, I agree. It was likely a lie by the girl. But I'm not certain of it. I might be too suspicious and should just take it at face value. But I also know that upper management and the family that owns it would stop at nothing.
Doctors say vaccine is year or two away, the flu vaccine doesn't work well cause virus change anyway, don't hold your breath for a cure as they've poured billions and 70 years into cures for cancer that were never found. I think people will just have to learn to live with this disease or die with it. I don't. Believe China got rid of it. The flue never goes away. Summer doesn't kill it, I'm in 90 degree weather people are getting it. Probably will change everything forever really, much less restaurants, barsstarbucks will probably never have seating again, alot girls in hk, will not do GFE, oh wait nevermind.
Probably will change everything forever reallyI agree. This is way bigger than 9/11 and you saw what that did. We are experiencing a historic event. The fallout is / will be HUGE.
Who knows what it will do to the mongering scene.
2020 has been devastating for me so far but at least I am alive to experience it. I consider myself lucky.
I wish everyone on ISG the same. EVERYONE.
2020 death worldwide in line with the Spanish 1918 pandemic so far.
Using Taiwan model this pandemic could have been avoided for major part using lessons learnt from SARS outbreaks. Taiwan has the lowest COVID 19 deaths per million in the world. World Leadership total failure.
I agree. This is way bigger than 9/11 and you saw what that did. We are experiencing a historic event. The fallout is / will be HUGE.
Who knows what it will do to the mongering scene.
2020 has been devastating for me so far but at least I am alive to experience it. I consider myself lucky.
I wish everyone on ISG the same. EVERYONE.
ClamSlammer
03-28-20, 07:00
But I do not discount the possibility HK could hire someone to inject the uneducated people with saline and they believe they are then immune. There is a definite difference between the US and Mexico when it comes to the understanding of, and fear of, this virus. I only give it credence because I know this wouldn't be the first scam management has pulled on its employees. They regularly scam the girls with a visa scam.There is really no way HK management could pull the fake vaccine scam. That would, like I said, have to include people dumb enough to believe HK runs a secret biotech lab that is far more advanced than anything the CDC or WHO or the entire global community of doctors, scientists, epidemiologists, virologists, etc, combined. No one could be that stupid. Not even a puta. But the puta is assuming that you are if that's what she's telling you.
I did talk to one mesero a few months ago and he mentioned a shot he got that helped protect him from catching a cold or something. It was the first time I had every heard of someone taking a shot for a cold but it's been a while since my last really bad cold and I know I got an inhaler from the doctor but don' remember if I got a shot or not? Would not be surprised if it's a shot for other strains of the flue but doubt highly that it works against this specific strain.
The link below is a news story about a small town in Italy that has not had any major virus issues. They test everyone. Yes everyone and if our government had their shit together we could have been prepared. But nope. We are going to play catch-up at the expense of all this bull shit.
https://www.livescience.com/small-italian-town-cuts-coronavirus-cases-testing.html
It's all great. Trying to fly to Mars. Build a multi billion dollar wall between us and Mexico. Totally oblivious to what we actually needed to be doing.
HK needs to do a channel on chaturbate.com and rotate a few girls from HK into the chat rooms so we can support them a bit. Would love to see the Mexican honey's and spank it a bit.
Goyo.
The coronavirus will be like the Spanish flu. If you have a strong immune system you live if not you die. After that it goes away and whoever's is left standing goes about their business again.
What's so great about squirting anyway?. Girls that do it seem to really brag about it and think it's the ninth wonder of the world. I had a chica try to sell me on an arriba by telling me she squirts. If I wanted a golden shower, I'd go to Moscow, I saw a video once there with some hookers and a fat politician. I don't understand the allure of squirting.
LuvMexicanas
03-28-20, 14:58
What's so great about squirting anyway?. Girls that do it seem to really brag about it and think it's the ninth wonder of the world. I had a chica try to sell me on an arriba by telling me she squirts. If I wanted a golden shower, I'd go to Moscow, I saw a video once there with some hookers and a fat politician. I don't understand the allure of squirting.Someone else will have to explain the allure of it. It's interesting when it happens but the novelty wears off pretty quickly for me.
LuvMexicanas
03-28-20, 15:05
Bit the bullet and hooked back up with an HK girls I meet pre Corona. She said she was going back home until HK reopens. She said they were told they would be closed for at least two weeks. Plenty street girls out still most are working day shifts because the streets are literally really dark due to bar closure. Was really eerie no Banda music in streets hotel was so quiet you could hear a mouse fart. Anyhow, got a smoking deal on a TLN didn't ask her to stay either. Had breakfast at Azul with her an checked out around 1245 or so. Cruised through border in about 15 minutes. HK girls were off duty and in street clothes but still seeing their regulars in hotels. Seems this would be ideal for safety reasons since they are maybe seeing only 2-3 guys instead of the usual 5-6 and they have a good level of trust already established. On a side note we tried to get service at the side bar in the hotel lobby. Apparently there is a secluded lounge with double doors near the elevators I am assuming that is where the room service liquor comes out of. They said they can only send drinks to the room. I was able to sleep like a baby between sessions because the hotel was so quite. Anybody that has regulars I suggest you setup a a date. You can Def get a basement bargain TLN before the girls pack it in this coming week.Thanks for the boots on the ground intel. Anything unique such as non-standard questions from the agent when you crossed back into the states?
Dcrist0527
03-28-20, 15:30
There is really no way HK management could pull the fake vaccine scam. That would, like I said, have to include people dumb enough to believe HK runs a secret biotech lab that is far more advanced than anything the CDC or WHO or the entire global community of doctors, scientists, epidemiologists, virologists, etc, combined. No one could be that stupid. Not even a puta. But the puta is assuming that you are if that's what she's telling you.Respectfully, I disagree. Yes, I believe some chicas are that naive. Generally speaking, the understanding of this virus is FAR less in the Mexican population than elsewhere.
To you and I, yes it is beyond outrageous. To many of these chicas, I could absolutely believe that line of crap. AMLOs opinion is well documented. There are large pockets of Mexicans that see this as a non-event.
My money is still on the lie being made up by the chica. But nothing would surprise me with HK ownership.
DramaFree11
03-28-20, 15:36
I did talk to one mesero a few months ago and he mentioned a shot he got that helped protect him from catching a cold or something. It was the first time I had every heard of someone taking a shot for a cold but it's been a while since my last really bad cold and I know I got an inhaler from the doctor but don' remember if I got a shot or not? Would not be surprised if it's a shot for other strains of the flue but doubt highly that it works against this specific strain.
The link below is a news story about a small town in Italy that has not had any major virus issues. They test everyone. Yes everyone and if our government had their shit together we could have been prepared. But nope. We are going to play catch-up at the expense of all this bull shit.
https://www.livescience.com/small-italian-town-cuts-coronavirus-cases-testing.html
It's all great. Trying to fly to Mars. Build a multi billion dollar wall between us and Mexico. Totally oblivious to what we actually needed to be doing.
HK needs to do a channel on chaturbate.com and rotate a few girls from HK into the chat rooms so we can support them a bit. Would love to see the Mexican honey's and spank it a bit.
Goyo.In Mexico shots and injections are much more common. So it might have been partially true. They were probably given a shot to prevent seasonal Flu's or something else.
Dcrist0527
03-28-20, 15:37
I did talk to one mesero a few months ago and he mentioned a shot he got that helped protect him from catching a cold or something. It was the first time I had every heard of someone taking a shot for a coldInjections are very common from Mexican doctors. The health system is not advanced at all. All I can say is things are done very differently than in the US. The mentality is entirely different. Mexicans believe injections solve a lot. Ask them what the injection is, or what it treats, they cannot answer. From friends and situations I know of, these injections might be just one step short of a with doctor in many cases.
Captain Solo
03-28-20, 17:34
There is nothing sexy or magic about squirting. It's when the women let go of their bladders, spraying out pee. There are no other bladders storing any sexy fluids anywhere in that area of the female anatomy.
It's disgusting but some guys like see or do very dirty things during sex. They may marvel at and admire women squeezing special poops out of a special orifice in their butts?
There is nothing sexy or magic about squirting. It's when the women let go of their bladders, spraying out pee. There are no other bladders storing any sexy fluids anywhere in that area of the female anatomy.
Respectfully disagree. I've had some true squirters, press upwards with 2-3 fingers around the G-spot, and what comes out is not pee. It's fun sometimes, but it can also be very messy. I've had soaked mattresses.
Injections are very common from Mexican doctors. The health system is not advanced at all. All I can say is things are done very differently than in the US. The mentality is entirely different. Mexicans believe injections solve a lot. Ask them what the injection is, or what it treats, they cannot answer. From friends and situations I know of, these injections might be just one step short of a with doctor in many cases.Totally agree. I have met so many chicas who just had an injection, vitamins or medicine or whatever, with the telltale butt bruise, and then they can't even tell me what they got!
DramaFree11
03-28-20, 21:04
Respectfully disagree. I've had some true squirters, press upwards with 2-3 fingers around the G-spot, and what comes out is not pee. It's fun sometimes, but it can also be very messy. I've had soaked mattresses.Not for me at all, not a turn on at all.
LuvMexicanas
03-28-20, 21:25
While we're all jerking off more than we would like, I thought it might be beneficial to share tips and tricks. There are times when you just want to chill in Hong Kong or any other puta bar. If chicas are constantly accosting you at a bad time (perhaps you had too much tequila the day before or already busted a few nuts), few things have chicas fleeing from you faster than saying no mas dinero. It's like kryptonite.
The WHO has determined that people over 65 are especially susceptible to the virus, not just people over 80. . . USA Life expectancy is 79 years. So you're equating 14 years to "a few weeks. " Just idiotic. As you put it, the US Life expectancy is 79 years. Well, guess what? The average age of deceased from covid is 79.5 years. (https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/). If true, then covid will have had no significant impact on life expectancy in the US. Far from the Spanish Influenza, which had death rates of 10-20%, covid's death rate is closer to 1.0%. Go back to work folks.
From the article:
"Italys death rate might be higher because of how fatalities are recorded. In Italy, all those who die in hospitals with Coronavirus will be included in the death numbers. Recording the numbers of those who die with Coronavirus will inflate the CFR as opposed to those that died from Coronavirus, which will reduce the CFR. On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88% patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity many had two or three.
The Italian National Institute of Health: analysed 355 fatalities and found only three patients (0.8%) had no prior medical conditions."
Captain Solo
03-28-20, 22:26
TJsenor,
Isn't the urine bladder right on top of the female's G spot?
What other bladders and fluids are there in the female's hip?
KC Questor
03-28-20, 23:09
What's so great about squirting anyway?I think the allure of squirting is that it is evidence that the girl really came. She isn't faking, unless she just pees on you.
And the debate about whether squirting is pee or not is still very much hotly contested. It's pretty clear that the fluid comes from the bladder, but anyone who has experienced will agree that it's not the same as pee. Personally, I don't care what it is. I'm not a fan or fetishist of urine, but I'm also not scared or disgusted by it. If I make a girl cum so hard she pees, I'm happy for her. As long as she doesn't shit the bed, I'm fine with it.
As long as she doesn't shit the bed, I'm fine with it.I am pretty sure that this is a turn on for 10% of those reading your post if you were to read their history.
While we're all jerking off more than we would like, I thought it might be beneficial to share tips and tricks. There are times when you just want to chill in Hong Kong or any other puta bar. If chicas are constantly accosting you at a bad time (perhaps you had too much tequila the day before or already busted a few nuts), few things have chicas fleeing from you faster than saying no mas dinero. It's like kryptonite.Told a chica I had hemorrhoids once to get rid of her and her pimp mesero. She told men it sounded sexy. Finally gave her the No Dinero word and she left me in the dust.
Thanks for the boots on the ground intel. Anything unique such as non-standard questions from the agent when you crossed back into the states?Your welcome. Not anything out of the ordinary just where I was headed I said to work was visiting a relative. The processed me as usual. I guess technically you can say relative because it is not for recreational purposes. Also you could say shopping I picked up some toilet paper and other goodies from Soriana so you guys can stock up on booze as a cover when you cross back for an airtight alibi if you are concerned about getting put in secondary. My guess is that since for the most part the situation has stabilized CBP will not being doing any enhanced questioning. I will post an update if I get hassled.
DramaFree11
03-29-20, 00:32
Drama.
Health workers reported many CoVid19-infected people in China did not show obvious symptoms. Hope you did not pick it up on the road.
Keep us posted on the situation with you and your parents.
I am in the same boat, went to Tijuana 10 days ago. I have been sick for the last week, no fever, but have all the other symptoms. I do not recommend playing around with this, it is not a joke.Capt,
Check out this site in MTY, I had great results. Still in contact with a couple of girls from last year.
https://regioscorts.com/
Hotels prices are greatly discounted with the Virus and exchange rate makes it very cheap. I might be back in MTY soon, if Tijuana does not open up in a couple of weeks.
they've poured billions and 70 years into cures for cancer that were never found.No disrespect intended, Dodgers, but your cancer facts are a bit off. Cancer survival rates have skyrocketed since 70 years ago. And, unlike the coronavirus, cancer is not just one disease.
If the scientists and the doctors are all saying they'll be a vaccine and / or a cure in the next few years, they're probably right. And neither you nor I know more than they do.
I did talk to one mesero a few months ago and he mentioned a shot he got that helped protect him from catching a cold or something. It was the first time I had every heard of someone taking a shot for a cold but it's been a while since my last really bad cold and I know I got an inhaler from the doctor but don' remember if I got a shot or not? Would not be surprised if it's a shot for other strains of the flue but doubt highly that it works against this specific strain.There's no vaccine against the common cold. What your mesero got was probably an influenza vaccine. They often (but not always) help reduce the likelihood of your getting the flu, and the severity if you do get it.
the US Life expectancy is 79 years. ... The average age of deceased from covid is 79.5 years. ... If true, then covid will have had no significant impact on life expectancy in the US. Whatever the AVERAGE life expectancy is, it is an AVERAGE. There are as many people who die after that age as there are who die before it. So if everyone dies when they reach that age, the average drops dramatically.
Sorry, Frogg. But I do still love you.
While we're all jerking off more than we would like, I thought it might be beneficial to share tips and tricks. There are times when you just want to chill in Hong Kong or any other puta bar. If chicas are constantly accosting you at a bad time (perhaps you had too much tequila the day before or already busted a few nuts), few things have chicas fleeing from you faster than saying no mas dinero. It's like kryptonite.If a chica knows you sometimes it doesn't work. In January one of my regulars chica from Hong Kong grabs me by the balls and says: papi let's go to the room! I said I can't go because I only have $ 40. And she says: no problem you will pay me missing 30 $ next weekend. She gave me credit! The next weekend I paid her the rest. Memories, memories! Ha ha ha!
LuvMexicanas
03-29-20, 05:33
If a chica knows you sometimes it doesn't work. In January one of my regulars chica from Hong Kong grabs me by the balls and says: papi let's go to the room! I said I can't go because I only have $ 40. And she says: no problem you will pay me missing 30 $ next weekend. She gave me credit! The next weekend I paid her the rest. Memories, memories! Ha ha ha!Instead of a HELOC we now have a PLOC (puta line of credit). I love it! This is definitely going in my bag of tricks.
I never go arriba with girls from the Hong Kong. My MO is to explore the paraditas outside, searching for the diamond in the rough, and I usually find her. Hopefully a new one, or maybe repeating with a good one. Hong Kong plus the hotel is way outside of my budget, but I do enjoy kicking back at the HK with a pocket full of dollar bills, warming up before the hunt, or just relaxing afterwards. I enjoy it a lot actually, especially when they had the free lap dance coupons. In better times I still enjoy the two free drinks coupon Mondays and Tuesdays. You can get a lot of mileage out of the HK that way. When I want to shoo a girl away if she's attractive I'll give her a good groping and a dollar tip, and if not I'll just tell them both, " Estoy esperando a Carolina", while pointing up at the ceiling. They get the message and go away.
What a riot. I know who that girl is. She calls all the guys "Papi". Wonderful personality. Nice little fuck. She really gives of herself to you when you take her upstairs. I need to be careful saying no dinero as they they see me later buying a girl a drink or taking her upstairs and not good.
Goyo.
If a chica knows you sometimes it doesn't work. In January one of my regulars chica from Hong Kong grabs me by the balls and says: papi let's go to the room! I said I can't go because I only have $ 40. And she says: no problem you will pay me missing 30 $ next weekend. She gave me credit! The next weekend I paid her the rest. Memories, memories! Ha ha ha!
What kind of disclaimer bullshit is this.
"All the photos of our escorts are REAL, in some cases for the escort's discretion and privacy, photos of models very similar to the girl who offers her services are put in, anyway, we recommend that you READ the profiles WELL, these are very accurate, of how the girl is, and the services she offers. ".
If I am understanding what they are saying is. If you ask for "so-and-so". She may look similar but it won't be the girl in the picture. If that's the case. What a bunch of bull shit. Well at least they are up front about it and I will give them credit for that. They better be able to send you a picture of the actual girl your getting or it really is bull shit.
Goyo.
Capt,
Check out this site in MTY, I had great results. Still in contact with a couple of girls from last year.
https://regioscorts.com/
Hotels prices are greatly discounted with the Virus and exchange rate makes it very cheap. I might be back in MTY soon, if Tijuana does not open up in a couple of weeks.
Hey KC.
Of probably 20 girls so far I think a few were turned on a bit (or faking it well). But no squirters or even coming that I could tell.
I had a Thai girl in Bankok that after I was done, she took her phone and started watch porn on it. Then she had me masturbate her until she came. I don't think she was faking it but she wasn't squirting per say. It was so cool to make her feel good.
Goyo.
I think the allure of squirting is that it is evidence that the girl really came. She isn't faking, unless she just pees on you.
And the debate about whether squirting is pee or not is still very much hotly contested. It's pretty clear that the fluid comes from the bladder, but anyone who has experienced will agree that it's not the same as pee. Personally, I don't care what it is. I'm not a fan or fetishist of urine, but I'm also not scared or disgusted by it. If I make a girl cum so hard she pees, I'm happy for her. As long as she doesn't shit the bed, I'm fine with it.
Don't think they need it but all the guys who have loved the place over the years need to do a GoFundMe page for the place and mesero's to make sure it opens again when we confine this stuff to a semi-healthy point.
Goyo.
If you want to get rid of a chick hounding you, asking for anal no extra charge usually does the trick.
LuvMexicanas
03-29-20, 15:42
If you want to get rid of a chick hounding you, asking for anal no extra charge usually does the trick.A firm $60 offer incluido sexo natural or I'm not interested can be effective too but not always.
LuvMexicanas
03-29-20, 18:03
Told a chica I had hemorrhoids once to get rid of her and her pimp mesero. She told men it sounded sexy. Finally gave her the No Dinero word and she left me in the dust.She was thinking black kiss all the way.
LuvMexicanas
03-29-20, 18:05
Your welcome. Not anything out of the ordinary just where I was headed I said to work was visiting a relative. The processed me as usual. I guess technically you can say relative because it is not for recreational purposes. Also you could say shopping I picked up some toilet paper and other goodies from Soriana so you guys can stock up on booze as a cover when you cross back for an airtight alibi if you are concerned about getting put in secondary. My guess is that since for the most part the situation has stabilized CBP will not being doing any enhanced questioning. I will post an update if I get hassled.Truly a public service announcement. Thanks bro.
Captain Solo
03-29-20, 19:28
Drama,
regioscorts.com sure has very beautiful pictures of the female species.
However there are very few actual reviews of the models and their services. There were accusations that pics of Russian and Ukrainian were used.
When I am in Monterrey, I would definitely try their models. Please post more info what you found about them.
ClamSlammer
03-29-20, 20:38
As you put it, the US Life expectancy is 79 years. Well, guess what? The average age of deceased from covid is 79.5 years. (https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/). If true, then covid will have had no significant impact on life expectancy in the US. Far from the Spanish Influenza, which had death rates of 10-20%, covid's death rate is closer to 1.0%. Go back to work folks.The only reason I brought up average life expectancy was because you seemed to be okay with people dying of coronavirus at the age of 65. Well, if the average life expectancy is 79 years, then there are many people who make it past 80. That means, 85, 90, 95, or maybe even 100 or more. So if the average age of coronavirus mortality is 79.5, it will do little to impact average life expectancy in the USA But that's not what's at debate here. What's at debate is that you think you are God and know exactly when everyone is going to die, and that you are fine with people dying at 65 because "they were on their way out anyway. "
On another note, there may be a case where some of the lesser educated do not understand the meaning of "average. " Average is the sum divided by the number of parts. It does not mean there are equal numbers of examples above and below. For example, if there are 5 people ages 5, 10,15, 20 and 100, the average age is 150/5 which is 30. Notice that there are 4 people under the average of 30 and only one person above the average. In respect to the current discussion, the extremely under-educated may proclaim that there are as many people dying younger than 79 than older because 79 is the average. Which is not necessarily true as proven in my example. So please do not confuse the term "average" with "median."
ScatManDoo
03-29-20, 20:51
Your welcome. Not anything out of the ordinary just where I was headed I said to work was visiting a relative. The processed me as usual. I guess technically you can say relative because it is not for recreational purposes. Also you could say shopping I picked up some toilet paper and other goodies from Soriana so you guys can stock up on booze as a cover when you cross back for an airtight alibiYou leave your home, cross the border into Mexico, so you could stock up on on booze?
When you are limited to bringing back only one liter of hard liquor (or instead two or three small bottles of beer) across the border?
That sounds like an airtight alibi!
DramaFree11
03-29-20, 21:12
Drama,
regioscorts.com sure has very beautiful pictures of the female species.
However there are very few actual reviews of the models and their services. There were accusations that pics of Russian and Ukrainian were used.
When I am in Monterrey, I would definitely try their models. Please post more info what you found about them.Not sure about that, but when I am in MTY, they will send a list of the girls available, always fewer then the sight, but that is normal. My budget was under 4000, so that eliminated some, but now dollar is stronger so I will up my budget. I never real use negotiate with girls, but with the crisis, I have decided to ask for discounts now.
I have had great results with this sight. Also, a lot of the girls agreed to meet for dinner or drinks after the first meeting through the agency. Agency always gives me the cell number, so that is an added bonus.
Combination of this and SA, you can do real well and GFE is more the norm in MTY.
If you can get a cheap flight, worth checking out. Almost no sex tourist there and I love that. Unlike MDE, Tijuana and Kiev they are everywhere. MTY and Russia very few, I prefer those destinations. The sex tourist in MDE was big turn off for me.
There are as many people who die after that age as there are who die before it. This would median age, not average.
The only reason I brought up average life expectancy was because you seemed to be okay with people dying of coronavirus at the age of 65. Well, if the average life expectancy is 79 years, then there are many people who make it past 80. That means, 85, 90, 95, or maybe even 100 or more. So if the average age of coronavirus mortality is 79.5, it will do little to impact average life expectancy in the USA But that's not what's at debate here. What's at debate is that you think you are God and know exactly when everyone is going to die, and that you are fine with people dying at 65 because "they were on their way out anyway."I don't think I'm God, or pretend to know when any individual is going to die. However, I am reporting facts (to put our fears in perspective). I may have an opinion and attitude regarding these numbers, but I did not make up these numbers, and they came from reputable sources. The data suggests a normal healthy person has little to fear; and those vulnerable should be cautious regardless of what time of year it is.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/
Saturday world lives killed by Covid-19: 25,000.
Sunday world lives killed by Covid-19: 30,000.
President Trump extends stay-at-home from April 15 to April 30 regardless of all the selfish of conspiracist factual opinion blogs dressed up as academic sources.
There is nothing sexy or magic about squirting. It's when the women let go of their bladders, spraying out pee. There are no other bladders storing any sexy fluids anywhere in that area of the female anatomy.............Twenty eight years ago I had a girl over and we watched some porn. She was immensely turned on. When we got up to go to the bed the entire cushion on which she was seated was soaked. I had actual proof that it was not urine. She definitely did not pee herself. I suspect it is the same liquid that some women squirt during orgasm.
Captain Solo
03-30-20, 17:35
Turgid,
I had a number of girls and putas in Tijuana leave large wet spots on the sheets.
Those are vaginal fluid, released from the vaginal lining, not squirted out from any orifice.
LuvMexicanas
03-30-20, 18:29
Turgid,
I had a number of girls and putas in Tijuana leave large wet spots on the sheets.
Those are vaginal fluid, released from the vaginal lining, not squirted out from any orifice.Are you sure it wasn't your load flowing back out.
Captain Solo
03-30-20, 21:02
Luvmex.
Not my load as I used condom.
The spot was about 18 inch, soaking wet on the sheet. The chica was embarrassed, trying to wipe it off to no avail.
A civie also got so wet with foreplay, her fluid would have made an 18-inch spot.
Are you sure it wasn't your load flowing back out.I think its probably a combination of urine and vagina juice when a girl squirts. If she squirts a lot, then probably a lot more urine because women don't have bottles of vaginal juice in them, and the only other location for massive fluids is the bladder. But if she has diarrhea, she may have fluids in her rectum too.
Hmmm. Probably don't want to go there.
LuvMexicanas
03-31-20, 01:59
Luvmex.
Not my load as I used condom.
The spot was about 18 inch, soaking wet on the sheet. The chica was embarrassed, trying to wipe it off to no avail.
A civie also got so wet with foreplay, her fluid would have made an 18-inch spot.I was just playing Cap along the lines of a recent post I made claiming COVID-19 is a government conspiracy to reduce its social security liabilities.
Aviator400
03-31-20, 18:25
I was just playing Cap along the lines of a recent post I made claiming COVID-19 is a government conspiracy to reduce its social security liabilities.Didn't think of that, but considering the current administration.
Captain Solo
03-31-20, 18:42
If people over 66 are encouraged to continue going to churches, parties, playing cards etc Trump will be able to reduce SS payout by 80%.
AmorPorFavor
04-01-20, 05:48
If people over 66 are encouraged to continue going to churches, parties, playing cards etc Trump will be able to reduce SS payout by 80%.Awesome Captain!
BodyAnybody
04-01-20, 06:08
To each their own but I have traveled to too many countries that don't have a wonderful club like HK. Or private taxi's to haul my ass etc. So giving an extra buck or two to support the "team" that makes this experience dam nice is a small effort on my side and helps them do what they do. In part I feel if you don't support those who are trying to earn a living the "legal way". Regular job at HK or wherever working for tips. They will be forced to do stuff like work with the police to tip them off or learn to hate the gringo's. Which isn't good. How can I not support this place when I go back to the "good old" USA which is not good and just plain sucks in terms of mongering.I know this is an old comment but I want to chime in. We all have nothing but time to kill these days.
I agree with Goyo on this. The difference between $1 and $3 is negligible to me, but in Mexico, where the minimum wage is $5 a DAY, its a huge difference to them, and it encourages better service. I have not been to Tijuana yet, and honestly don't know if I will visit due to the high crime and danger that it brings.
Shit, here in the US if I'm leaving a bar at 2 am and see a group of cops at a taco truck, I'm going to head over to have tacos because cops mean safety. In Old Mexico, they could shake me down for a bribe, or I could even end up getting shot to death in an ambush against them.
I'm rambling now, but like I said, nothing but time. Dry and sin chikas.
ScatManDoo
04-01-20, 18:38
I know this is an old comment but I want to chime in. We all have nothing but time to kill these days.
I agree with Goyo on this. The difference between $1 and $3 is negligible to me, but in Mexico, where the minimum wage is $5 a DAY, its a huge difference to them, and it encourages better service. I have not been to Tijuana yet, and honestly don't know if I will visit due to the high crime and danger that it brings.
Shit, here in the US if I'm leaving a bar at 2 am and see a group of cops at a taco truck, I'm going to head over to have tacos because cops mean safety. In Old Mexico, they could shake me down for a bribe, or I could even end up getting shot to death in an ambush against them.
I'm rambling now, but like I said, nothing but time. Dry and sin chikas.I noticed this was your 11th post in this forum.
I agree with Goyo on this. The difference between $1 and $3 is negligible to me, but in Mexico, where the minimum wage is $5 a DAY, its a huge difference to them, and it encourages better service. I have not been to Tijuana yet, and honestly don't know if I will visit due to the high crime and danger that it brings.Please read this Tijuana forum as much as you want.
But as long as you feel this way, you have no business making a 12th post here.
Dcrist0527
04-01-20, 23:00
I noticed this was your 11th post in this forum.
Please read this Tijuana forum as much as you want.
But as long as you feel this way, you have no business making a 12th post here.Couldn't disagree more. I actually agree with the OP, which really doesn't matter. My larger point: why is his opinion not of value? How many posts are required before my opinion matters?
I don't think we should just throw money around like arrogant Americans. But the OPs point about the difference in $2 is perfectly valid. I can tell you 2 stories where a mesero saved me a lot of trouble because I treat them well. Don't get me wrong, I do not tip outrageous amounts. But there are hidden benefits treating people with respect vs getting upset about 50 cents, which I have read on this forum.
ClamSlammer
04-02-20, 00:12
Couldn't disagree more. I actually agree with the OP, which really doesn't matter. My larger point: why is his opinion not of value? How many posts are required before my opinion matters?
I don't think we should just throw money around like arrogant Americans. But the OPs point about the difference in $2 is perfectly valid. I can tell you 2 stories where a mesero saved me a lot of trouble because I treat them well. Don't get me wrong, I do not tip outrageous amounts. But there are hidden benefits treating people with respect vs getting upset about 50 cents, which I have read on this forum.I don't think you get the point. It's not the money, it's the principle. If someone tries to cheat you, I don't believe in treating that person with utmost respect. For example, a couple of beers at CC is $6 dls. They have a 19:1 rate posted so cost is $114 pesos. Every single mesero, every single time will charge you $120. They pocket the $6 pesos, about $. 30. They probably make $10-$20 dls a night extra by cheating mongers. But it's not about the money. Many Americans wouldn't even bother stopping and grabbing $. 30 if they found it on the street. And yeah, it does bother me every time I get cheated out of that $. 30. Not enough to come back with an AK but it does bother me. It's the lack of respect on the part of the mesero, not the half can of soda I could have bought with that $. 30. It bothers me more because I am a frequest visitor and have access to the Zona literally whenever I want. For those of you flying in from NY once every two years yeah you're too immersed in puta Disneyland to let $. 30 bother you. That's understandable. I believe in treating people with respect as well, but finding meseros that deserve respect in the Zona is like finding needle in a haystack.
My last drink with a chica several weeks ago, I was interrupted by 4 different meseros in a spand of under 10 minutes plus one fuckhead flaming homosexual cameraman that bitched that I did not buy a photo. That's 5 reason why I will never throw dollars at the meseros. I had to fight with two dickhead meseros to stop the shake a chica drink scam. That is 2 more reasons totaling 7 reasons I avoid tipping the meseros.
I averaged Tijuana four times per week. If anyone wants me to tip a lot more, I am fully on board. Send me your money and I will spread the love in tips to everyone.
Captain Solo
04-02-20, 01:51
I have never been cheated in HK. Tropical meseros have the habit of taking $20 for a beer then conveniently forget to bring back $16 change.
Chicago's prices are 55 pesos for local beers and 70 pesos for premiums. I have not been cheated in Chicago, usually tip them well for good service. I understand how a guy would get pissed off when meseros think they are smarter then him and hold off 5 or 10 pesos. Meseros are lowly street urchins. It's hard to expect honesty from them. Even a few respectable, church-going, bible-thumping figures in Tijuana I have dealt with, were stealing from employers, squeezing employees and vendors every chance they get for grafts and bribes.
Good meseros deserve good tips for their services and honesty. Dishonest meseros should be reported to their bosses so they can be reamed.
BodyAnybody
04-02-20, 02:11
I noticed this was your 11th post in this forum.
Please read this Tijuana forum as much as you want.
But as long as you feel this way, you have no business making a 12th post here.If you're referring to me saying I might not ever visit Tijuana, I understand your sentiment. That does not make your post any less unfriendly and gatekeepy.
I have been visiting a different, much smaller town in northern Mexico and I've just noticed that slightly higher tips meant I got way better service.
Another poster mentioned that some meseros upsell and skim on beers and I can see why that would piss him off, but I haven't seen that happen yet. Maybe if I do ever make it over to Tijuana I'll change my mind after dealing with a much more crowded and fast paced atmosphere, and perhaps less honest actors.
In any case, if I have an opinion on something, I'll post it if I feel the impulse. I paid my subscription and haven't broke any sitewide rules.
I had to fight with two dickhead meseros to stop the shake a chica drink scam. That is 2 more reasons totaling 7 reasons I avoid tipping the meseros.
I can't stand meseros. And I hate fichas because of the meseros. I prefer to chat with chicas while tipping them.
Member #4722
04-02-20, 09:10
I can't stand meseros. And I hate fichas because of the meseros. I prefer to chat with chicas while tipping them.I hate it most when they bring girls to you. Embarrassing for all parties involved. I can pick my own chicas thank you.
If you're referring to me saying I might not ever visit Tijuana, I understand your sentiment. That does not make your post any less unfriendly and gatekeepy.
I have been visiting a different, much smaller town in northern Mexico and I've just noticed that slightly higher tips meant I got way better service.
Another poster mentioned that some meseros upsell and skim on beers and I can see why that would piss him off, but I haven't seen that happen yet. Maybe if I do ever make it over to Tijuana I'll change my mind after dealing with a much more crowded and fast paced atmosphere, and perhaps less honest actors.
In any case, if I have an opinion on something, I'll post it if I feel the impulse. I paid my subscription and haven't broke any sitewide rules.You will find that in smaller towns, and in Tijuana outside of the gringo-centric areas, service is much better and smaller tips are far more appreciated. The overall service in the ZN and other gringo-fied areas is piss-poor. There are exceptions, but they tend to be just that.
What do you guys usually tip? I usually tip $1 or 20 pesos each time they bring me something and they always seem happy with that. I don't think I've been cheated as far as I know. If I was cheated I was too drunk or busy having a good time to notice.
The most annoying thing for me is when I'm trying to chill and scope out the scene and the mesero keeps bringing chicas to me, but even then I'll just politely decline which sometimes causes the chica to get pissed at the mesero which is funny to see happen.
Meseros can be a big help like when I'm looking for a certain chica or a certain type of chica. For instance I HATE fake butts, so I might tell the mesero bring me a big booty chica but only all natural, or bring me a nice young fresh chica, or if the chica I want is busy he might let her know I'm waiting on her so when she becomes available she comes straight to me. Usually they'll search high and low to find me what I requested which I always appreciate.
I like the female meseras in la gloria or Chicago's. For some reason it turns me on knowing I can bang my waitress if I want to. Female meseras are available for arribas and fichas in case you didn't know.
I think if you set a tone early with your mesero so he sees that you're not a dummy overtipper but at the same time you're not a cheapass nontipper you'll be just fine. I see a lot of guys show up and greet their mesero like he's a great friend. I never do a that just because I think that's just the mesero putting on a show but hey more power to them.
Oh one time in la malquerida my mesero didn't bring me back like 20 pesos change. I waved him down and asked why he didn't bring back my change he said "it's only 20 pesos that's nothing". I haven't been back to la malquerida since.
ClamSlammer
04-02-20, 11:40
What do you guys usually tip?
I think if you set a tone early with your mesero so he sees that you're not a dummy overtipper but at the same time you're not a cheapass nontipper you'll be just fine.Standard tip in all Zona putas bars is $1 dls per round.
And your tip about setting a tone with your mesero, how can that work? Seems like you'd have to set the tone with all 50 meseros that are working because they are not assigned specific tables or areas to work. They all roam freely so setting the tone with 1 mesero will basically do nothing.
Let me say one thing. If you're a regular in the Zona, you'd been ripped off. There may be a vets on here claiming that they've never been ripped off. They're dead wrong. They've been ripped off but never realized it. If you've paid in pesos in CC while the x-rate was 19:1, you've been ripped off. And if you've ficha'd a chica in HK and paid in pesos, you've been ripped off. Allow me to explain El Arte de la Estafa:
This fine art has been passed down from generation to generation of meseros in Zona Norte. The meseros trade tips on how to rip off mongers. Here's how they do it at HK. Meseros realize that gringo mongers are accustomed to paying and receiving change in dollars. Along with the fact that HK's prices are based in dollars and not pesos, this makes meseros hesitant to perpetrate scams in dollars. For example, you buy a beer and a ficha. $4 + $9 = $13. You pay with a $20 and your change is $7. The math is too easy and even most drunk mongers can figure it out.
When gringos start paying in pesos, that is when meseros start licking their chops. The math gets much more complicated. You buy a beer and ficha and pay in pesos. $72 + $162 = $234. You pay with a $500 note and your change is $266. Many mongers won't be able to convert the prices to pesos, add them in their head, then calculate their change. This becomes dramatically more challenging once you've had a few drinks. And becomes near impossible when you add a topless puta grinding on top of you. The meseros know this, and this is when they strike. When you're ficha'ing a puta and paying in pesos, your chance of getting ripped off increases dramatically. The meseros are counting on you not being able to do the math in your head and getting distracted by the puta and not caring or counting your change. You will also notice the meseros will include in your change an exorbitant amount of coins, much more than usual. This is because they know that many mongers, when seated with a chica, don't want to appear like a cheapskate and grab and count every coin. After all, you must count all your change in order to realize you've been ripped off. And the harder / longer they make it for you to count your change, the higher the likelihood of a successful rip-off. I've been a well-known presence in HK for almost 10 years and meseros still try to pull this scam on me on the rare occasions that I actually buy fichas.
This is why I advise newbies to just use dollars when paying for drinks. Yes, if there were no scamming you will save money by paying in pesos. But those savings will easily be negated and then some by all the times you'll get ripped off.
Dcrist0527
04-02-20, 13:50
I think if you set a tone early with your mesero so he sees that you're not a dummy overtipper but at the same time you're not a cheapass nontipper you'll be just fine. I see a lot of guys show up and greet their mesero like he's a great friend.Very true. One benefit, depending on how long you plan on staying, if you have 1 mesero, the others respect that and you won't have 15 different meseros at your table all night. At least that's been my experience. Your point about setting the tone is well said. I understand the respect SMD talks of and he has a great point. But you can set the tone with the first drink and they will respect that. I would say that, especially in HK, there are two or maybe three meseros I deal with. We do greet each other as good friends. They have helped me have some unreal nights, helped me out of a couple pickles, shown me great respect and never cheated me a peso. I have even shared a few drinks with them in the wee hours at HK or la maquerida afterwards. I have had bad meseros elsewhere and am generally skeptical at first. But there are good meseros out there. As for how much I tip, it's $1. So overtipping is not my game. To Jinxx's point, that mutual respect is earned quickly and you'll reap rewards.
My one disclaimer, which probably affects the equation. When I go to HK, I'm usually there many hours. I've closed it down at 6 AM more times than I want to count. So those $1 tips do add up.
LuvMexicanas
04-02-20, 15:20
You will find that in smaller towns, and in Tijuana outside of the gringo-centric areas, service is much better and smaller tips are far more appreciated. The overall service in the ZN and other gringo-fied areas is piss-poor. There are exceptions, but they tend to be just that.Perhaps I've been lucky with the bartender each time, but Tropical might be an exception. When I receive two beers for 72 pesos, I tip 8 pesos. The bartenders don't jump for joy over it, but they're appreciative. A few have even given off a vibe that had a faint feeling of respect kind of akin to they know that I know. I'll explain. A Mexican national buddy of mine who has lived in CDMX and Monterrey once scolded me when I tipped 20% at a restaurant. He told me locals tip in the range of 10-15% and the higher end of that only if the service is amazing. Another Mexican national buddy who has lived in Guadalajara, Tijuana and CDMX said the same thing. In fact, we went to a nice restaurant me, him and another dude and when the bill came it was around 4400. After my buddy meticulously checked the bill, I gave the mesero my card and when he handed the credit card machine back to me, there was a prompt to enter tip amount so I asked my buddy what he would tip to which he replied 550. I entered the amount and handed the machine back to the mesero who had a very normal reaction. He printed a copy for me and we left. Coming back full circle to Tropical, an 8 peso tip on 72 is in line with 550 on 4400, especially when you consider the latter was at a high end restaurant. I get that many of us live in parts of America where 20% is the norm, 25% is a good tip, and 15% is being a Cheap Charlie, but check that shit at Pedwest before importing that insanity to a country not our own.
LivingFossil
04-02-20, 17:27
Alright, let make bets. When will HK reopen? I want to arrive to Tijuana a day early, haha.
Imma say May 1st?
Standard tip in all Zona putas bars is $1 dls per round.
And your tip about setting a tone with your mesero, how can that work? Seems like you'd have to set the tone with all 50 meseros that are working because they are not assigned specific tables or areas to work. They all roam freely so setting the tone with 1 mesero will basically do nothing.
Let me say one thing. If you're a regular in the Zona, you'd been ripped off. There may be a vets on here claiming that they've never been ripped off. They're dead wrong. They've been ripped off but never realized it. If you've paid in pesos in CC while the x-rate was 19:1, you've been ripped off. And if you've ficha'd a chica in HK and paid in pesos, you've been ripped off. Allow me to explain El Arte de la Estafa:
This fine art has been passed down from generation to generation of meseros in Zona Norte. The meseros trade tips on how to rip off mongers. Here's how they do it at HK. Meseros realize that gringo mongers are accustomed to paying and receiving change in dollars. Along with the fact that HK's prices are based in dollars and not pesos, this makes meseros hesitant to perpetrate scams in dollars. For example, you buy a beer and a ficha. $4 + $9 = $13. You pay with a $20 and your change is $7. The math is too easy and even most drunk mongers can figure it out..I use to get drinks a lot at HK. It would seem the "meseros tax" would go higher and higher every time I went (I always paid in pesos). I just stopped getting drinks there and avoiding the meseros. Maybe if you don't complain, they just keep increasing the tax until you do?
I'll try with dollars next time.
AmorPorFavor
04-02-20, 22:03
Perhaps I've been lucky with the bartender each time, but Tropical might be an exception. When I receive two beers for 72 pesos, I tip 8 pesos. The bartenders don't jump for joy over it, but they're appreciative. A few have even given off a vibe that had a faint feeling of respect kind of akin to they know that I know. I'll explain. A Mexican national buddy of mine who has lived in CDMX and Monterrey once scolded me when I tipped 20% at a restaurant. He told me locals tip in the range of 10-15% and the higher end of that only if the service is amazing. Another Mexican national buddy who has lived in Guadalajara, Tijuana and CDMX said the same thing. In fact, we went to a nice restaurant me, him and another dude and when the bill came it was around 4400. After my buddy meticulously checked the bill, I gave the mesero my card and when he handed the credit card machine back to me, there was a prompt to enter tip amount so I asked my buddy what he would tip to which he replied 550. I entered the amount and handed the machine back to the mesero who had a very normal reaction. He printed a copy for me and we left. Coming back full circle to Tropical, an 8 peso tip on 72 is in line with 550 on 4400, especially when you consider the latter was at a high end restaurant. I get that many of us live in parts of America where 20% is the norm, 25% is a good tip, and 15% is being a Cheap Charlie, but check that shit at Pedwest before importing that insanity to a country not our own.Can anybody tell me: are all the beers in HK priced at $4? I think I was paying more for Bohemia's but with all the pussy and drinks going down can't remember. I always tip the meseros $1 for my beer or a ficha. Also $1 for the guy who puts the robe on the chica. When I was in Cartagena almost all the restaurants added on a 10% service charge. I asked the chicas I was with if that was enough to leave and they said yes. I always put in a little more cash to make it 15% because the service was always good and I was eating and drinking great stuff for half the price of San Diego.
Standard tip in all Zona putas bars is $1 dls per round.
And your tip about setting a tone with your mesero, how can that work? Seems like you'd have to set the tone with all 50 meseros that are working because they are not assigned specific tables or areas to work. They all roam freely so setting the tone with 1 mesero will basically do nothing.
Let me say one thing. If you're a regular in the Zona, you'd been ripped off. There may be a vets on here claiming that they've never been ripped off. They're dead wrong. They've been ripped off but never realized it. If you've paid in pesos in CC while the x-rate was 19:1, you've been ripped off. And if you've ficha'd a chica in HK and paid in pesos, you've been ripped off. Allow me to explain El Arte de la Estafa:
This fine art has been passed down from generation to generation of meseros in Zona Norte. The meseros trade tips on how to rip off mongers. Here's how they do it at HK. Meseros realize that gringo mongers are accustomed to paying and receiving change in dollars. Along with the fact that HK's prices are based in dollars and not pesos, this makes meseros hesitant to perpetrate scams in dollars. For example, you buy a beer and a ficha. $4 + $9 = $13. You pay with a $20 and your change is $7. The math is too easy and even most drunk mongers can figure it out.
When gringos start paying in pesos, that is when meseros start licking their chops. The math gets much more complicated. You buy a beer and ficha and pay in pesos. $72 + $162 = $234. You pay with a $500 note and your change is $266. Many mongers won't be able to convert the prices to pesos, add them in their head, then calculate their change. This becomes dramatically more challenging once you've had a few drinks. And becomes near impossible when you add a topless puta grinding on top of you. The meseros know this, and this is when they strike. When you're ficha'ing a puta and paying in pesos, your chance of getting ripped off increases dramatically. The meseros are counting on you not being able to do the math in your head and getting distracted by the puta and not caring or counting your change. You will also notice the meseros will include in your change an exorbitant amount of coins, much more than usual. This is because they know that many mongers, when seated with a chica, don't want to appear like a cheapskate and grab and count every coin. After all, you must count all your change in order to realize you've been ripped off. And the harder / longer they make it for you to count your change, the higher the likelihood of a successful rip-off. I've been a well-known presence in HK for almost 10 years and meseros still try to pull this scam on me on the rare occasions that I actually buy fichas.
This is why I advise newbies to just use dollars when paying for drinks. Yes, if there were no scamming you will save money by paying in pesos. But those savings will easily be negated and then some by all the times you'll get ripped off.It depends how busy they are if you have the same mesero or not. I've had times in Chicago's where my mesero stayed camped out right by my table anticipating my every move waiting on me hand and foot. At first I found it annoying like this guy's trying to milk me for everything he can get out of me, but then I figured hell I'm a VIP I got my own personal attendant at my beckon call LOL. Actually one night that happened I ended up having one of the most mind-blowing arribas I've ever had with this chica from Rosarito who I forget her name but HOLY SH#T we fucked like wild beasts. Whoo that was a profound experience I'll never forget, man! Not that the mesero had anything to do with that but just saying LOL.
Or if you actually WANT to only deal with that same mesero you can just wait until he comes back around, which totally depends on the situation. I'm usually riding solo so I'm not a big spender compared to say a group of four gringos from out of town celebrating a birthday or bachelor party. Obviously the mesero's going to focus on whoever's putting more money in his pocket. It might depend on the chica too, some times they have their preferred meseros who they scratch each other's backs.
And yes the nickel and diming happens when you pay in pesos. Unless you're rain man or you don't mind looking like an asshole pulling out your phone calculator each time you order a round you'll probably never realize it.
Perhaps I've been lucky with the bartender each time, but Tropical might be an exception. When I receive two beers for 72 pesos, I tip 8 pesos. The bartenders don't jump for joy over it, but they're appreciative. A few have even given off a vibe that had a faint feeling of respect kind of akin to they know that I know. I'll explain. A Mexican national buddy of mine who has lived in CDMX and Monterrey once scolded me when I tipped 20% at a restaurant. He told me locals tip in the range of 10-15% and the higher end of that only if the service is amazing. Another Mexican national buddy who has lived in Guadalajara, Tijuana and CDMX said the same thing. In fact, we went to a nice restaurant me, him and another dude and when the bill came it was around 4400. After my buddy meticulously checked the bill, I gave the mesero my card and when he handed the credit card machine back to me, there was a prompt to enter tip amount so I asked my buddy what he would tip to which he replied 550. I entered the amount and handed the machine back to the mesero who had a very normal reaction. He printed a copy for me and we left. Coming back full circle to Tropical, an 8 peso tip on 72 is in line with 550 on 4400, especially when you consider the latter was at a high end restaurant. I get that many of us live in parts of America where 20% is the norm, 25% is a good tip, and 15% is being a Cheap Charlie, but check that shit at Pedwest before importing that insanity to a country not our own.Yes, 10% - 15% is about right for most places. I always ask my GF about it and that's the amount she usually specifies. Small mom and pop places you don't tip anything, or just the coins left over from the change. Now I know I overtip in nice places in Tijuana, mainly because I want to encourage the good waiters. Traditionally good wait staff is very difficult to find in Mexico because it's long been looked down upon as a menial occupation. I was once asked why I wanted to tip so much. They guy brings a plate of food to the table. How hard can that be? But a good waiter is far more than that and I think they should be encouraged. But that's my idiosyncrasy and I know that when I tip 20% it's definitely on the high side.
In bars and clubs I tip 10 pesos per round. Period. Unless the guy does something extra special or I don't have change. Then it might be 20 pesos. I do find that bartenders seem to appreciate tips more than pinche zona norte meseros.
Captain Solo
04-03-20, 01:14
Most food carts in Tijuana are owner operated, but a few popular ones, like the HK tacos stand, employ many workers.
I can usually eat only 1 20-peso taco al pastor or 1 cup of birria soup, but I would put all my left over coins into the apron of worker serving me, most times about 2 x or 3 x the taco's price. That usually results in a taco with 2 x or 3 x the normal amount of the seared meat, delicious, not that I can eat that much.
The tacos stand would give a few soup refills free. But occasionally propinas would bring you extra birria in the soup.
ClamSlammer
04-03-20, 01:36
Perhaps I've been lucky with the bartender each time, but Tropical might be an exception. When I receive two beers for 72 pesos, I tip 8 pesos. The bartenders don't jump for joy over it, but they're appreciative. A few have even given off a vibe that had a faint feeling of respect kind of akin to they know that I know. I'll explain. A Mexican national buddy of mine who has lived in CDMX and Monterrey once scolded me when I tipped 20% at a restaurant. He told me locals tip in the range of 10-15% and the higher end of that only if the service is amazing. Another Mexican national buddy who has lived in Guadalajara, Tijuana and CDMX said the same thing. In fact, we went to a nice restaurant me, him and another dude and when the bill came it was around 4400. After my buddy meticulously checked the bill, I gave the mesero my card and when he handed the credit card machine back to me, there was a prompt to enter tip amount so I asked my buddy what he would tip to which he replied 550. I entered the amount and handed the machine back to the mesero who had a very normal reaction. He printed a copy for me and we left. Coming back full circle to Tropical, an 8 peso tip on 72 is in line with 550 on 4400, especially when you consider the latter was at a high end restaurant. I get that many of us live in parts of America where 20% is the norm, 25% is a good tip, and 15% is being a Cheap Charlie, but check that shit at Pedwest before importing that insanity to a country not our own.You're pretty much correct here. 10% tip is more than sufficient in most restaurants. Once a HK puta invited me to El Grill, which is one of, if not the most, expensive restaurant in Tijuana. It was her, two sisters, me, and 2 kids. I ordered something cheap, like $120 pesos because I knew she was paying. The total bill was like $2000. When they came around with the credit card reader, the puta responded "$50 pesos" when asked how much tip to add.
I honestly think Mexicans tip more reasonably than Americans. Americans tip too much. Being a server is a menial job, meant for the underskilled and under-educated. The amount of skill and education needed is not much different than a janitor. They should be compensated as such. A waiter is someone that carries food to your table. They are nothing more than that. To think that they are more than that and tipping more to justify it, well, it is just foolishness. Think about it, tipping 15%-25% for what? Does carrying a plate of $50 tomahawk ribeye require more skill than carrying a plate of $5 nachos? You go to Morton's and blow $200 for dinner for two. So you tip $40. Then you go to Applebee's and blow $40 on dinner for two. And tip $8. Did the Morton's waiter do 5 x more work than the Applebee's waiter? No way. They probably came around to your table once or twice more than the Applebee's waiter but the amount of extra work they did is not 5 x.
Waiters at fancy steakhouses often make more than college educated professionals. Think about it. 10 tables a shift at $60/ table. That's $600 a shift. And $60/ table is a conservative estimate. Those entertaining clients charging the corporate AMEX will ring up bills upwards of $1000 or more when they start ordering fancy whisky. That's a $200 tip from one table. Way too much for a menial job.
Can anybody tell me: are all the beers in HK priced at $4? I think I was paying more for Bohemia's but with all the pussy and drinks going down can't remember. I always tip the meseros $1 for my beer or a ficha. Also $1 for the guy who puts the robe on the chica. When I was in Cartagena almost all the restaurants added on a 10% service charge. I asked the chicas I was with if that was enough to leave and they said yes. I always put in a little more cash to make it 15% because the service was always good and I was eating and drinking great stuff for half the price of San Diego.Generally the price for a bottle of beer is $ 5. Tecate light and a few other brands I don't remember are $ 4. At every bar in Hong Kong there is an accurate list hanging at the bar with prices for beers, tequila shot, brandy shot, alcoholic beverages etc. You can always check. 1 $ tip is OK.
Since we're talking about tipping, I'll put this here, although I think it's been talked about in this forum many, many pages ago:
How much do you guys tip a bar girl for good service upstairs? And what about for excellent service?
I'll ask the same thing in regards to escorts, however, l'll put that in the escort thread.
I'm a 20% guy. I'm sure that comes from having dated & been around a lot of women in the service industry who completely rely on tips. Also, being in the entertainment business myself, I understand how a little extra dough helps out a lot.
I know a lot of you guys are going to call me.
1. a fool with my money.
2. an idiot.
3. a liberal.
4. a poor excuse for a human being (same as liberal to some of you).
5. a bad dresser.
And all kinds of other shit you wouldn't say to your worst enemy.
Bring it on. I stand prepared!
LuvMexicanas
04-03-20, 05:37
Since we're talking about tipping, I'll put this here, although I think it's been talked about in this forum many, many pages ago:
How much do you guys tip a bar girl for good service upstairs? And what about for excellent service?
I'll ask the same thing in regards to escorts, however, l'll put that in the escort thread.
I'm a 20% guy. I'm sure that comes from having dated & been around a lot of women in the service industry who completely rely on tips. Also, being in the entertainment business myself, I understand how a little extra dough helps out a lot.
I know a lot of you guys are going to call me.
1. a fool with my money.
2. an idiot.
3. a liberal.
4. a poor excuse for a human being (same as liberal to some of you).
5. a bad dresser.
And all kinds of other shit you wouldn't say to your worst enemy.
Bring it on. I stand prepared!I generally tip 10% for good service and perhaps double that for great service especially if the chica swallows my load or stays longer than the agreed upon time.
Since we're talking about tipping, I'll put this here, although I think it's been talked about in this forum many, many pages ago:
How much do you guys tip a bar girl for good service upstairs? And what about for excellent service?
I'll ask the same thing in regards to escorts, however, l'll put that in the escort thread.
I'm a 20% guy. I'm sure that comes from having dated & been around a lot of women in the service industry who completely rely on tips. Also, being in the entertainment business myself, I understand how a little extra dough helps out a lot.
I know a lot of you guys are going to call me.
1. a fool with my money.
2. an idiot.
3. a liberal.
4. a poor excuse for a human being (same as liberal to some of you).
5. a bad dresser.
And all kinds of other shit you wouldn't say to your worst enemy.
Bring it on. I stand prepared!You're tipping the girl because you think she's not charging enough money? :D
That sort of tipping may be "appreciated" but it's really not part of the Mexican culture. If you contract with somebody to do something for a specific price, you pay it and no more. Unless there's something extraordinary. They don't tip taxis because the fair is negotiated beforehand. They wouldn't tip the plumber or the painter.
Lots of guys say the girls asked for $100, they negotiated down to $80 and then tipped $20. That seems to defeat the purpose.
Regardless, I only use pesos and I would rarely tip the girls, outside of maybe rounding up to the nearest 500 pesos, I. E. If we settled on 1400 I would give 1500. The exception, as stated above, is if she went above and beyond. My last threesome I tipped the hooker (the other was a pseudo-GF) nicely because she went above and beyond, allowing BBFS and other things. IIRC it was around 500 pesos, but we'd all been at it for over an hour.
It's your money, spend it how you wish. But you are a bad dresser. :)
Americans overtip. The rest of the world laughs about this. I think it's good to tip well if you liked / appreciated the service (although some people don't being tipped). I wouldn't tip a hooker. Especially that many of them (not just in Mexico) earn more than an average member of this forum.
Since we're talking about tipping, I'll put this here, although I think it's been talked about in this forum many, many pages ago:
How much do you guys tip a bar girl for good service upstairs? And what about for excellent service?
I'll ask the same thing in regards to escorts, however, l'll put that in the escort thread.
I'm a 20% guy. I'm sure that comes from having dated & been around a lot of women in the service industry who completely rely on tips. Also, being in the entertainment business myself, I understand how a little extra dough helps out a lot.
I know a lot of you guys are going to call me.
1. a fool with my money.
2. an idiot.
3. a liberal.
4. a poor excuse for a human being (same as liberal to some of you).
5. a bad dresser.
And all kinds of other shit you wouldn't say to your worst enemy.
Bring it on. I stand prepared!Nothing. A session for them is already a good score. In my experience, the great providers have upstanding personalities and are happy to provide. None of them ever push or expect a tip. Bad providers will be pushy and ask for tips. Best to avoid those providers altogether.
I have been in the customer service industry since 21. Relied on tips. I have had some generous tippers in my life that really made my week or night and I was able to pay off needed bills. If you have a great time with a hooker and want to tip 100 or 200 pesos, it will help her out a lot. I don't care how much you think these girls are making.
These girls have a short window to make money and a lot of them are horrible with money to begin with. You are not a sucker for tipping 5 bucks for crying out loud. Only if you send money to them from the US over some sob story. Don't be a dick and tip for great service, and if it's bad just give her what you negotiated. The escort agency takes a cut so they aren't making all of it. Remember one thing, when you die, you can't take any money with you so unless these 5 dollar tips will be needed by you at the end of your life, you won't notice it. Don't be a jerk.
Americans overtip. The rest of the world laughs about this. I think it's good to tip well if you liked / appreciated the service (although some people don't being tipped). I wouldn't tip a hooker. Especially that many of them (not just in Mexico) earn more than an average member of this forum.Sean do you realize how lucky we are to be born in the US. We hit the birth lottery. I lost my job because of the coronavirus. 2 weeks ago I received what I thought was my final check. This morning I checked my bank account and I saw 1800 dollars deposited in my account. I freaked. I checked to see where it came from and lo and behold the company I worked for decided to give everyone a 2 week severance type payment to help us out until we get back to work. I'm not even full time there. The company didn't have to do that for us.
On top of that, I will be getting 1200 from the government that they printed out of thin air. On top of that, I will be getting a extra 600 a week on top of my unemployment check. I am going to make more money off this virus than I ever could have made working. These girls in mexico and Colombia won't get any money when this whole economy collapses. They will be starving. The difference between us and them is I was born here and they were born there. You think when I can get back to Colombia or Tijuana I won't spread the wealth a little bit after all the free money I'm getting in the next 6 months. You damn right I am. I won't be stupid with it but I will be tipping girls that provide good service and I enjoy being with. Have a heart man. Quit looking at life as for me to win they have to lose.
MedalloPack
04-03-20, 17:33
Alright, let make bets. When will HK reopen? I want to arrive to Tijuana a day early, haha.
Imma say May 1st?I'm going to say approx the week of April 20.
Since we're talking about tipping, I'll put this here, although I think it's been talked about in this forum many, many pages ago:
How much do you guys tip a bar girl for good service upstairs? And what about for excellent service?
I'll ask the same thing in regards to escorts, however, l'll put that in the escort thread.
I'm a 20% guy. I'm sure that comes from having dated & been around a lot of women in the service industry who completely rely on tips. Also, being in the entertainment business myself, I understand how a little extra dough helps out a lot.
I know a lot of you guys are going to call me.
1. a fool with my money.
2. an idiot.Me:
$1 for a waiter per drink, unless he pulls the shake a drink, then $0 and I ask for a new waiter.
$1 at the restaurant.
$0.25 for the bathroom.
$1 for a border ride. Unless its the ingrate sarcastic fuckhead that drives at the HK old border, then $0.
$1 for the 80 year old lady selling candy for $0.25.
$0 for the guy opening the oxxo doors.
$0 for beggars.
$5 for some bouncers for Christmas.
$0 for new chicas because I am already paying their 20% chino tax.
Free dinner at my favorite chica's favorite restaurant.
Americans overtip. The rest of the world laughs about this. I think it's good to tip well if you liked / appreciated the service (although some people don't being tipped). I wouldn't tip a hooker. Especially that many of them (not just in Mexico) earn more than an average member of this forum.The rest of the world are jealous because Americans are the most prosperous and blessed. They laugh because they have no idea what it is like to have such easily replaceable disposable income.
If the hookers make more money than you, how the hell can you afford them?
Based on CBP changing crossing attitude today the border could be very restricted to very few exception, if any. Wearing mask is no no at CBP station today. Rx not a valid reason.
No social distance marking, bunched up like cattle. Practice 6 feet, Thanks.
Alright, let make bets. When will HK reopen? I want to arrive to Tijuana a day early, haha.
Imma say May 1st?I wouldn't get your hopes up. People thinking that normalcy will come back in a couple weeks or a month have been kidding themselves. All these weekly bans and shelter rules are going to keep getting extended over and over again. I'the be surprised if we're able to step foot into a bar by Christmas. Sports is already shutdown through the summer. That should tell you there's not going to be any public gathering anytime soon. But that's the US perspective. Maybe Baja or whoever's makes the call says fuck it and opens business back up soon. But how big of a hit will the Zona take with less gringos and a lot of those girls that don't come back.
Alright, let make bets. When will HK reopen? I want to arrive to Tijuana a day early, haha.
Imma say May 1st?I think China was closed for two months but I think we'll have a treatment in three weeks, then another week or so to ramp up production on it. I'm going predict May 4th and they'll have a star wars themed reopening. Girls will dress as sexy versions R2 D2 and CP3 O and they'll be selling lightsaber themed condoms that glow in the dark.
Is the taco stand open? I'm feeling it today.
The rest of the world are jealous because Americans are the most prosperous and blessed. They laugh because they have no idea what it is like to have such easily replaceable disposable income.
If the hookers make more money than you, how the hell can you afford them?So true. If it wasn't for us most of the world would be speaking German or Japanese. America is the few places you can go broke over and over and replenish yourself. I went broke after the Nasdaq bubble collapse and the 2008 crisis but always started fresh, came back, and was able to travel the world and bang hos. Col sanders went broke many times in his life and at 65 was going to commit suicide. Instead he started KFC in his mid 60's and died a billionaire. Only in America.
As far as meseros go I hate their guts. They drive me crazy and ruin the experience. You sit down with a girl and they interrupt you constantly about buying a drink. They are exhausting. I don't miss HK at all. I prefer dejavu now for the laid back atmosphere and cool waiters that don't bother you unless you call them over. I get more bang for my buck there when you buy a girl a drink. They will grind on you for 10 minutes off that one drink. I can't wait until the economy opens back up.
LuvMexicanas
04-03-20, 23:29
Me:
$1 for a waiter per drink, unless he pulls the shake a drink, then $0 and I ask for a new waiter.
$1 at the restaurant.
$0.25 for the bathroom.
$1 for a border ride. Unless its the ingrate sarcastic fuckhead that drives at the HK old border, then $0.
$1 for the 80 year old lady selling candy for $0.25.
$0 for the guy opening the oxxo doors.
$0 for beggars.
$5 for some bouncers for Christmas.
$0 for new chicas because I am already paying their 20% chino tax.
Free dinner at my favorite chica's favorite restaurant.Chino tax? Can you elaborate? I assume you mean a chica will charge you more. Don't you yell her to bugger off given there are so many options? Asians probably makeup a smaller portion of the fat, hairy and smelly segment. I have so many questions but will stop here.
You're tipping the girl because you think she's not charging enough money? :DHa ha. I knew you'd have something to say buddy! Your post was one of the ones that I was most looking forward to!
I tip because she's providing a service. And those beautiful ladies, along with waiters that serve me in restaurants, bartenders & a whole bunch of other service workers that I deal with, receive tips from me. And the reason I tip for services is three-fold: 1. A lot of folks actually depend on tips to make ends meet & I feel for them. 2. I appreciate how difficult it is to work in the service industry & tipping is my way of showing my appreciation. 3. Tipping 20% is just so set in the way that I do business with people that it would be hard for me to change it at this point. When I'm on tour in other countries, I often get chastised by the locals for over-tipping. Such is life. If that's the worst thing that happens that day, I can somehow find a way to live with it.
Now, to exemplify the 2nd point, I ask you to consider a waiter. Is it difficult for him to bring a plate of food from the kitchen to your table? No, not necessarily. However, is it difficult for him to 1. Bring the CORRECT plate of food, just the specific way you ordered it, keeping it separate from all of the other gluten-free / kosher / allergic to tree nut orders he has to deal with during that hour while 2. Being harassed by the asshole at table 12 who is yelling at him about his great dislike of the shape of the restaurant's parking lot, all while 3. Smiling & joking with you enough to make your dining experience a truly pleasurable one? You better believe it's fucking difficult. The same with bartenders. The same with the kid who lugs the groceries to your door. And FOR SURE the same for the beautiful 19 year old bar girl / escort who lovingly coos sweet nothings in your ear while you nail her into a dirty bed, immediately after some sweaty, obese motherfucker with bad breath & a misshapen little wiener talked insultingly to her during sex & then tried to get out of paying her their previously agreed upon amount. If you were doing any of the above mentioned jobs, I would tip you as well. Well, you'd have to be extra nice if you were doing the bar girl job. I'd expect DFK, too.
That sort of tipping may be "appreciated" but it's really not part of the Mexican culture. If you contract with somebody to do something for a specific price, you pay it and no more. Unless there's something extraordinary. They don't tip taxis because the fair is negotiated beforehand. They wouldn't tip the plumber or the painter.I hear you but again, it's just the way I do business, in the US & elsewhere. I sometimes tip painters & plumbers, as well, especially if they go out of their way to do extra work, etc. Also, when a customer service rep on the phone does a great job for me, I go out of my way to find out the contact info of their supervisor & then I send them an email explaining in detail why I feel that the CSR was exceptional.
Lots of guys say the girls asked for $100, they negotiated down to $80 and then tipped $20. That seems to defeat the purpose.
Regardless, I only use pesos and I would rarely tip the girls, outside of maybe rounding up to the nearest 500 pesos, I. E. If we settled on 1400 I would give 1500. The exception, as stated above, is if she went above and beyond. My last threesome I tipped the hooker (the other was a pseudo-GF) nicely because she went above and beyond, allowing BBFS and other things. IIRC it was around 500 pesos, but we'd all been at it for over an hour.I seem to remember reading elsewhere about your above-mentioned soiree. You lucky duck!
As a complete side note. I just want to say how great it is to have a place like this where folks, especially like the two of us, on polar opposites of the political spectrum, can come together & discuss stuff like this. And we can have a bit of fun while doing it.
It's your money, spend it how you wish. But you are a bad dresser. :)Listen, I'll cop to being an idiot, a fool with my money, a liberal waste of human flesh & all the other stuff. But you had to jump on the bad dresser thing, didn't you? Man, you really know how to hurt a guy.
Chino tax? Can you elaborate? I assume you mean a chica will charge you more. Don't you yell her to bugger off given there are so many options? Asians probably makeup a smaller portion of the fat, hairy and smelly segment. I have so many questions but will stop here.The chicas has a presumption that Asians are rich. So they start negotiation high. And they sometimes go into their puta hissy fit when I won't pay the $100 premium. I get it from HK meseros too about tips but often give them the bird, the international sign to fuck off.
ClamSlammer
04-04-20, 10:52
I ask you to consider a waiter. Is it difficult for him to bring a plate of food from the kitchen to your table? No, not necessarily. However, is it difficult for him to 1. Bring the CORRECT plate of food, just the specific way you ordered it, keeping it separate from all of the other gluten-free / kosher / allergic to tree nut orders he has to deal with during that hour while 2. Being harassed by the asshole at table 12 who is yelling at him about his great dislike of the shape of the restaurant's parking lot, all while 3. Smiling & joking with you enough to make your dining experience a truly pleasurable one? You better believe it's fucking difficult.I guess there's two different definitions of "easy" when it come to a job. "Easy" as in it's an easy task to perform like carrying a plate of food. And "easy" as in easy to learn, requiring little or no training / education / intelligence. A garbageman's job can be defined as the second definition of easy. Whether it meets the first definition is debatable.
But what you describe above about a waiter's job being difficult, well, not really. You describe tasks in which waiters do not perform, such as making sure the food is prepared the specific way it was ordered and keeping food separated. Those tasks are performed by the cook, not the waiter. And the tasks you describe as "difficult" can only be difficult for people with an IQ below the level of imbecile. You say that bringing the "correct" plate of food is difficult? How hard is to tell the difference between a hamburger and a salad? Not that hard I hope. Bringing the correct food is so easy any 10 year old can do it. And while on rare occasions customer do complain to the waiter about things that are not under his control, like the parking lot, it is extremely rare. Most diners' complaints involve quality of food or poor wait service such as forgetting to bring requested items. Overall, a waiter's job is extremely easy. Greet customer, write down their order, relay the order to the cooks, carry plates to the table. Follow up a couple times to make sure food is satisfactory and offer refills and condiments. It's about as easy a job as there is.
............ Col sanders went broke many times in his life and at 65 was going to commit suicide. Instead he started KFC in his mid 60's and died a billionaire. Only in America.What a pity he didn't start KFC 40 years earlier so he could have banged multiple hotties in his youth.
Sean do you realize how lucky we are to be born in the US. We hit the birth lottery. I lost my job because of the coronavirus. 2 weeks ago I received what I thought was my final check. This morning I checked my bank account and I saw 1800 dollars deposited in my account. I freaked. I checked to see where it came from and lo and behold the company I worked for decided to give everyone a 2 week severance type payment to help us out until we get back to work. I'm not even full time there. The company didn't have to do that for us.
On top of that, I will be getting 1200 from the government that they printed out of thin air. On top of that, I will be getting a extra 600 a week on top of my unemployment check. I am going to make more money off this virus than I ever could have made working. These girls in mexico and Colombia won't get any money when this whole economy collapses. They will be starving. The difference between us and them is I was born here and they were born there. You think when I can get back to Colombia or Tijuana I won't spread the wealth a little bit after all the free money I'm getting in the next 6 months. You damn right I am. I won't be stupid with it but I will be tipping girls that provide good service and I enjoy being with. Have a heart man. Quit looking at life as for me to win they have to lose.The worse aspect of this virus is the effect it will have on the girls. You have a very admirable positive attitude.
ClamSlammer
04-04-20, 15:19
Col sanders went broke many times in his life and at 65 was going to commit suicide. Instead he started KFC in his mid 60's and died a billionaire.No way was Sanders ever even close to being a billionaire. There weren't that many billionaires in the 70's and Sanders certainly wasn't one of them. And he only lived a few months into the 80's before he died. KFC sold for $2 million in 1963.
His net worth was probably around $4 million at death.
AmorPorFavor
04-04-20, 19:04
As far as meseros go I hate their guts. They drive me crazy and ruin the experience. You sit down with a girl and they interrupt you constantly about buying a drink. They are exhausting. I don't miss HK at all. I prefer dejavu now for the laid back atmosphere and cool waiters that don't bother you unless you call them over. I get more bang for my buck there when you buy a girl a drink. They will grind on you for 10 minutes off that one drink. I can't wait until the economy opens back up.How are the chicas in Dejavu compared to HK?
As somebody coming from a food service background I beg to differ. If you had one customer per hour to deal with as wait staff maybe your point would be more valid but anybody who has ever bartended, served, or cooked in a busy fast paced environment such as HK knows better. First you are dealing with drunk and obnoxious customers. People here will plead to be perfect customers that never complain but the reality is different. The environment; loud music cigarette smoke, people vomiting, fights are some of the routine things you deal with on a nightly basis regardless of what restaurant or bar in the world you work in it's part of the job. I agree that the waiters can be dicks but how many cheap skate rude demanding customers did he have to deal with before you. A sever who wants to make tip money is usually handling 4-7 customers demanding things left and right, food, drinks, pussy, etc all on top of not being able to hear because of loud music and slurred speech. To paint these guys work as so easy a fifth grader can do it, I challenge anyone one on this board to work a FRI / Sat night in HK and see how well you do. If anybody is up for the challenge PM me and your first arriba is on me. Cheers.
I guess there's two different definitions of "easy" when it come to a job. "Easy" as in it's an easy task to perform like carrying a plate of food. And "easy" as in easy to learn, requiring little or no training / education / intelligence. A garbageman's job can be defined as the second definition of easy. Whether it meets the first definition is debatable.
But what you describe above about a waiter's job being difficult, well, not really. You describe tasks in which waiters do not perform, such as making sure the food is prepared the specific way it was ordered and keeping food separated. Those tasks are performed by the cook, not the waiter. And the tasks you describe as "difficult" can only be difficult for people with an IQ below the level of imbecile. You say that bringing the "correct" plate of food is difficult? How hard is to tell the difference between a hamburger and a salad? Not that hard I hope. Bringing the correct food is so easy any 10 year old can do it. And while on rare occasions customer do complain to the waiter about things that are not under his control, like the parking lot, it is extremely rare. Most diners' complaints involve quality of food or poor wait service such as forgetting to bring requested items. Overall, a waiter's job is extremely easy. Greet customer, write down their order, relay the order to the cooks, carry plates to the table. Follow up a couple times to make sure food is satisfactory and offer refills and condiments. It's about as easy a job as there is.
Just for perspective as well. When I was 19 years old I worked as a desk clerk on my feet 8 hours a day inhaling smoke from the customers who came into the hotel to check in. My legs were exhausted after 9 hours and I was just a "kid".
Plus. Inhaling the smoke was not good every day, all day and it's what the waiters and girls need to deal with every day they work.
Another issue is hearing. Long term effects of listening to loud music (yes the sound system is Good! But still listening for that many hours day after day for a few years, I believe it will cause some damage over time which will affect them later in life.
So. Easy. No, it's not when they have to deal with with general public, plus dealing with semi drunk guys all the time has to be a pain.
My hats off to them and when I get the opportunity to tip, I always do and I don't take them for granted.
Goyo.
LOL. JH. You said it perfectly. "And for sure the same for the beautiful 19 year old bar girl / escort who lovingly coos sweet nothings in your ear while you nail her into a dirty bed, immediately after some sweaty, obese motherfucker with bad breath & a misshapen little wiener talked insultingly to her during sex & then tried to get out of paying her their previously agreed upon amount".
Unbelievable what they do with a smile on their face. You can't help but think what a mind-fuck that must be for the girls to be fucked which has to feel a little good just do to the senses etc. But be mentally totally turned off by a guy. If it was legal in the US you would have a whole industry of Physiologists to deal with the mental trauma of fucking guys they despise.
Goyo.
Ha ha. I knew you'd have something to say buddy! Your post was one of the ones that I was most looking forward to!
I tip because she's providing a service. And those beautiful ladies, along with waiters that serve me in restaurants, bartenders & a whole bunch of other service workers that I deal with, receive tips from me. And the reason I tip for services is three-fold: 1. A lot of folks actually depend on tips to make ends meet & I feel for them. 2. I appreciate how difficult it is to work in the service industry & tipping is my way of showing my appreciation. 3. Tipping 20% is just so set in the way that I do business with people that it would be hard for me to change it at this point. When I'm on tour in other countries, I often get chastised by the locals for over-tipping. Such is life. If that's the worst thing that happens that day, I can somehow find a way to live with it.
Now, to exemplify the 2nd point, I ask you to consider a waiter. Is it difficult for him to bring a plate of food from the kitchen to your table? No, not necessarily. However, is it difficult for him to 1. Bring the CORRECT plate of food, just the specific way you ordered it, keeping it separate from all of the other gluten-free / kosher / allergic to tree nut orders he has to deal with during that hour while 2. Being harassed by the asshole at table 12 who is yelling at him about his great dislike of the shape of the restaurant's parking lot, all while 3. Smiling & joking with you enough to make your dining experience a truly pleasurable one? You better believe it's fucking difficult. The same with bartenders..
I would go with May 14th.
I'm going to say approx the week of April 20.
I wonder how much the girls make in a day at HK.
A few girls make big bucks.
Some make what. Maybe $200-$300?
Most make $100.
Some that are not so pretty. Maybe $50 if they get no fucky?
One girl told me she lives at the Cascada's and is required to pay $50/ day to live there. Is this true?
Curious if anyone knows.
Goyo.
I agree with the fake butts. I hate them as well as I do fake tits. You can always tell the difference.
I do hate when the mesero's bring girls over. No matter how I describe the type I like they just bring whoever they want it seems. There is one guy, Luis I believe is his name,great guy. , he knows his shit and best fuck in my life was new girl he brought over one time but normally I hate when others do that.
Sometimes the girls are not into meeting you and it shows, like they are forced into meeting you etc.
What I do enjoy seeing (probably due personal childhood issues of not feeling empowered in my own life. Is when the meseros are dragging around the girls by the hand making them go wherever they want. Kind of "power / control / domination" fetish thing I guess. Who knows but it's kind of a turn on. Maybe because untimely it is the girl who has the power over us to say NO, so it's that little glimpse of control where she has to give over her power for a moment.
Goyo.
What do you guys usually tip? I usually tip $1 or 20 pesos each time they bring me something and they always seem happy with that. I don't think I've been cheated as far as I know. If I was cheated I was too drunk or busy having a good time to notice.
The most annoying thing for me is when I'm trying to chill and scope out the scene and the mesero keeps bringing chicas to me, but even then I'll just politely decline which sometimes causes the chica to get pissed at the mesero which is funny to see happen.
Meseros can be a big help like when I'm looking for a certain chica or a certain type of chica. For instance I HATE fake butts, so I might tell the mesero bring me a big booty chica but only all natural, or bring me a nice young fresh chica, or if the chica I want is busy he might let her know I'm waiting on her so when she becomes available she comes straight to me. Usually they'll search high and low to find me what I requested which I always appreciate..
Captain Solo
04-05-20, 16:27
Jackie has a very good tipping strategy for La Zona.
I would never tip anyone unless they do something special for me. I never give money to beggars or gum sellers to encourage them to beg their whole lives. I give money to needy young mothers with babies, but not when I see them on the street again and again.
Unlike the rest of Mexico, La Zona is an unique place, a huge hot bordelo where pretty sweethearts give guys their companies, entertainment, love and sex. In return, guys are usually way overgenerous to the girls and the workers supporting them. Tipping scale in La Zona is and should be way higher than the rest of Mexico. There are no comparisons.
When in Rome, do what Romans do. I have seen a HK's floor manager tip Pepe's retarded parking attendant when he left his car. I guessed he wanted to make sure nobody messes with it. HK girls usually tip valet parking guys and food workers generously. Even street girls tip tacos guys generously.
HK strippers usually tip the stage handlers 20-30% of their tips. While a few girls get rained with hundreds green bills, most only get a few dollars tips for their acts. Chicago's strippers fare even worse. There are usually 4 to 5 strippers on stage at night; none would get any tips from guys gawking them. Strippers get paid about 500 pesos by the club to hangout all night, doing 3 to 5 strip acts. They even share their tip with stage handlers who collect the tips for them. Strippers and dancers should be tipped for their performances.
I would cruise the club and if I find hot girls, I would stop to pop a few $ into their bras and panties to grope their assets and talk to them. It's a cheap way to get to know hot girls. But for girls who walk around the club asking for tips, I only tip them selectively, not the chunky ones with big fake boobs and fake butts. Girls, who approach me offering their companies, usually get a tip before I turn them down. I minimize tips to meseros and buy drinks directly from the bar without tipping bar tenders. But if I am sitting with girls and meseros bring the drinks, $1 per person served is fair.
Security guys, door men, MCs, floor managers, hotel reception ect deserve tips on special occasions like Christmas and New Year. La Zona workers know who you are and remember your faces as well as your missing tips. They are nice, reasonable, hard working people with minimal wages, who depend on tips for living. They are no where as bad and rude as restaurant waiters in France and Italy. May be God is punishing those rude bad asses with the highest Corona Virus death rate.
We should learn and adjust our tipping practice to get good services and maintain harmony in the pleasure places.
DramaFree11
04-05-20, 19:53
I wonder how much the girls make in a day at HK.
A few girls make big bucks.
Some make what. Maybe $200-$300?
Most make $100.
Some that are not so pretty. Maybe $50 if they get no fucky?
One girl told me she lives at the Cascada's and is required to pay $50/ day to live there. Is this true?
Curious if anyone knows.
Goyo.Correct, but I imagine it will be much less for the next 6 months - 1 year. Especially the longer this goes. Hopefully we will all be back work soon.
Aviator400
04-05-20, 20:02
I wonder how much the girls make in a day at HK.
A few girls make big bucks.
Some make what. Maybe $200-$300?
Most make $100.
Some that are not so pretty. Maybe $50 if they get no fucky?
One girl told me she lives at the Cascada's and is required to pay $50/ day to live there. Is this true?
Curious if anyone knows.
Goyo.There are rooms for the girls at Cascadas. As I was checking out last month, the puta in front of me said she was checking out and the clerk said she owed $27. I am guessing that she shared the room, prepaid some amount, or got some kind of credit for her work. When she went to get her things, she went through the door by the elevator, so the rooms the girls occupy is likely sectioned off. For good reason. A girl who was staying at the Rio that I TLNed with said she had paid $40 for her room. A puta at CC club told me I could spend the night with her in her room at Jalos if I would pay her $40 room fee. (I am sure that there would be additional fees for personal services rendered. Unfortunately, I had a TLN scheduled for that night, so I couldn't accept her offer. In addition to her being hot enough to arriba short term, it would have been interesting to see her room. Hopefully she will make the offer again.) Not scientific, but it should answer your question.
I wonder how much the girls make in a day at HK.
A few girls make big bucks.
Some make what. Maybe $200-$300?
Most make $100.
Some that are not so pretty. Maybe $50 if they get no fucky?
One girl told me she lives at the Cascada's and is required to pay $50/ day to live there. Is this true?
Curious if anyone knows.
Goyo.$100-300 on Fridays and Saturday.
Close to $0 Sundays to Thursday afternoon.
Thursday is a wildcard.
$50 for a chica at Cascadas is difficult to believe. Very, very difficult.
The one group of workers I consistently tip are the dancers. The reason is I consider it to the toughest job. I usually spend about $10 -15 per HK visit, times 3-4 visits per week. But given that I am a cheapo, I tip $1 per dancer, never more. I ignore the ones asking me to make it rain. And the girls that ask for a tip and did nothing gets a zero. Unless they call me cheap for not tipping, then they get the bird as a tip.
The one group of workers I consistently tip are the dancers. Yes I always tip lots of dancers! Nothing for chix walking around asking for propinas.
Jackie has a very good tipping strategy for La Zona.
I would never tip anyone unless they do something special for me. I never give money to beggars or gum sellers to encourage them to beg their whole lives. I give money to needy young mothers with babies, but not when I see them on the street again and again.
Unlike the rest of Mexico, La Zona is an unique place, a huge hot bordelo where pretty sweethearts give guys their companies, entertainment, love and sex. In return, guys are usually way overgenerous to the girls and the workers supporting them. Tipping scale in La Zona is and should be way higher than the rest of Mexico. There are no comparisons.
When in Rome, do what Romans do. I have seen a HK's floor manager tip Pepe's retarded parking attendant when he left his car. I guessed he wanted to make sure nobody messes with it. HK girls usually tip valet parking guys and food workers generously. Even street girls tip tacos guys generously.
HK strippers usually tip the stage handlers 20-30% of their tips. While a few girls get rained with hundreds green bills, most only get a few dollars tips for their acts. Chicago's strippers fare even worse. There are usually 4 to 5 strippers on stage at night; none would get any tips from guys gawking them. Strippers get paid about 500 pesos by the club to hangout all night, doing 3 to 5 strip acts. They even share their tip with stage handlers who collect the tips for them. Strippers and dancers should be tipped for their performances.
I would cruise the club and if I find hot girls, I would stop to pop a few $ into their bras and panties to grope their assets and talk to them. It's a cheap way to get to know hot girls. But for girls who walk around the club asking for tips, I only tip them selectively, not the chunky ones with big fake boobs and fake butts. Girls, who approach me offering their companies, usually get a tip before I turn them down. I minimize tips to meseros and buy drinks directly from the bar without tipping bar tenders. But if I am sitting with girls and meseros bring the drinks, $1 per person served is fair.
Security guys, door men, MCs, floor managers, hotel reception ect deserve tips on special occasions like Christmas and New Year. La Zona workers know who you are and remember your faces as well as your missing tips. They are nice, reasonable, hard working people with minimal wages, who depend on tips for living. They are no where as bad and rude as restaurant waiters in France and Italy. May be God is punishing those rude bad asses with the highest Corona Virus death rate.
We should learn and adjust our tipping practice to get good services and maintain harmony in the pleasure places.I agree with most of this except the part about not tipping the bartenders. I always tip whoever serves me my drink whether it's a mesero or bartender. I even tip them when they give me change in dollar bills to tip the girls, just one dollar but they seem to appreciate it.
I actually like tipping the girls when they come up to me, but I make sure to grope and squeeze a big hand full of ass.
I tip the girls dancing on stage some times if I'm feeling it, not a lot but I don't mind pitching in for a hot show.
One thing I've noticed and which I find disturbing is the girls who let guys finger their pussies on stage and even let them STICK DOLLAR BILLS IN THEIR PUSSIES? Seriously what in the fuck is that!? I find that disgusting. You try that in a US strip club and the girls I know will punch you right in your teeth. I'm going to start spreading the word they need to stop that shit. As as guy what kind of weird satisfaction do you get from fingering a chica on stage? I might have thought that was cool if I was like 15 years old, but a grown man wtf?
ClamSlammer
04-06-20, 10:48
As somebody coming from a food service background I beg to differ. If you had one customer per hour to deal with as wait staff maybe your point would be more valid but anybody who has ever bartended, served, or cooked in a busy fast paced environment such as HK knows better. First you are dealing with drunk and obnoxious customers. People here will plead to be perfect customers that never complain but the reality is different. The environment; loud music cigarette smoke, people vomiting, fights are some of the routine things you deal with on a nightly basis regardless of what restaurant or bar in the world you work in it's part of the job. I agree that the waiters can be dicks but how many cheap skate rude demanding customers did he have to deal with before you. A sever who wants to make tip money is usually handling 4-7 customers demanding things left and right, food, drinks, pussy, etc all on top of not being able to hear because of loud music and slurred speech. To paint these guys work as so easy a fifth grader can do it, I challenge anyone one on this board to work a FRI / Sat night in HK and see how well you do. If anybody is up for the challenge PM me and your first arriba is on me. Cheers.We're not discussing being a waiter at HK. The discussion was about being a waiter at a normal restaurant. Again, you write down the party's order, relay it to the cooks, retrieve the order when the cook staff informs that it is ready, carry food to table, offer condiments and refills a couple times during the meal. It's 5th grade work. And being at waiter at HK is not that tough either. You take someone's order, then go to the bar to pick up the order and pay for it, deliver the drinks and get paid and give change.
How are the chicas in Dejavu compared to HK?Dejavu is a whole different world. Nowhere near as many girls as HK. I go to DJV to escape the hustle of HK. You buy a girl a drink there and they will grind on you for 15 minutes. It's great. You can really get to know the girl during the drink sessions, before you take her to the room. Waiters don't bother you until you waive them over for another drink. If you have any game during the courting phase, you should be able to get a girl for a hour for 1600 pesos, since there aren't that many customers. My advice is get a room at Ticuan and see if you can get a girl to come to your hotel after work, if not then take her to the room. I do mainly all escorts now but still like the strip club atmosphere and grinding that goes on there.
To the guys out there who hate fake butts and plastic surgery in general we need to start speaking up and let it be known we're against that crap. In places like HK and Adelita's that crap has gotten way out of hand.
The next time I'm in HK and a mesero brings me a chica with a big fake plastic butt I'm going to tell him flat out don't bring me no chicas that aren't all natural.
I just want to try to reverse the trend of chicas thinking the more fake shit they add to their body the higher their value is. For me it's the complete opposite, the more fake your body looks the LESS you're worth (worth as a hooker not as a human being of course).
That's one reason I like Tropical Bar and some of the other places because there's a lot less plastic surgery outside of HK and AB.
The sad thing is many of the all natural chicas tell me they're saving up $$$ to get plastic surgeries because they believe that's what guys want and I always make it a point to let them know how much I hate that shit. I let them know that if I see them with a fake butt that's it you can forget about having me as a customer.
I know one chica in particular who some times works in AB who had a magnificent big round all natural butt just like I like them. And she told me how she had plans to get some work done to get it surgically enhanced. I told her NO! You look perfect the way you are now! I begged her not to do it. And sure enough I ran into her at AB a few months later and she had the fake ass implants or whatever it is that those quack doctors do to these chicks. There are so many chicas who looked great with their natural body and then they completely ruin it with plastic surgery. It's a goddamn crying shame if you ask me.
ScatManDoo
04-06-20, 18:47
To the guys out there who hate fake butts and plastic surgery in general we need to start speaking up and let it be known we're against that crap. In places like HK and Adelita's that crap has gotten way out of hand.
The next time I'm in HK and a mesero brings me a chica with a big fake plastic butt I'm going to tell him flat out don't bring me no chicas that aren't all natural.
I just want to try to reverse the trend of chicas thinking the more fake shit they add to their body the higher their value is. For me it's the complete opposite, the more fake your body looks the LESS you're worth (worth as a hooker not as a human being of course).
That's one reason I like Tropical Bar and some of the other places because there's a lot less plastic surgery outside of HK and AB.
The sad thing is many of the all natural chicas tell me they're saving up $$$ to get plastic surgeries because they believe that's what guys want and I always make it a point to let them know how much I hate that shit. I let them know that if I see them with a fake butt that's it you can forget about having me as a customer.
I know one chica in particular who some times works in AB who had a magnificent big round all natural butt just like I like them. And she told me how she had plans to get some work done to get it surgically enhanced. I told her NO! You look perfect the way you are now! I begged her not to do it. And sure enough I ran into her at AB a few months later and she had the fake ass implants or whatever it is that those quack doctors do to these chicks. There are so many chicas who looked great with their natural body and then they completely ruin it with plastic surgery. It's a goddamn crying shame if you ask me.When I first discovered La Zona back in 2004, I considered myself to be very lucky to have discovered Adelitas Bar at the same time where I was in my mid-forties, had a good amount of disposable income, and could actually get my hands on an endless sea of fake boobies (which would not have been possible a decade earlier). At the time, I imagined I would have been the envy of all my male ancestors.
KC Questor
04-06-20, 19:05
One thing I've noticed and which I find disturbing is the girls who let guys finger their pussies on stage and even let them STICK DOLLAR BILLS IN THEIR PUSSIES? Seriously what in the fuck is that!? I find that disgusting. You try that in a US strip club and the girls I know will punch you right in your teeth. I'm going to start spreading the word they need to stop that shit.First thought: LOL, good luck with that!
Second thought: Why would you compare it to an American strip club?
Third thought: who the fuck made you the chica police?
To the guys out there who hate fake butts and plastic surgery in general we need to start speaking up and let it be known we're against that crap. In places like HK and Adelita's that crap has gotten way out of hand.
Wow, you sure do think that clubs in other cultures need to adapt to you and your preferences, huh? I mean, if the girls didn't want fake asses and if the guys didn't appreciate them, there wouldn't be the demand. Girls there want fake asses more than they want fake boobs. How about you let people like what they like and do what they want? Feel free to ask the meseros to bring you natural girls. i applaud that idea. But complaining and demanding that other cultures conform to your preferences is just idiotic and narrow.
Captain Solo
04-06-20, 19:16
HK's bar tenders serve meseros. Did you ever see meseros tip them? I don't think meseros take up collection at shift's end to share their tips with them. Meseros keep all the tips they make.
Everything in La Zona works on incentives and kick backs to the individuals. Unlike the US if HK's bar tenders are allowed to take tip, the meseros would have tipped them. When I tip bar tenders I notice they put the money into the cash register, not their own pockets, and they act cool like it's not necessary or appreciated. I believe bar tenders handle cash for the boss, are not allowed to take money from the bar, and work on salary alone. If they are suspected of stealing from the bar, they may get whacked! I don't want to give tip unnecessarily to help HK's owner get richer! I would rather give that money to the poor girls.
So far they have not resented me or given me hard times. They still sell me beers cheerfully, hold my extra beers in their ice box to keep them cold and give me free beers when the floor managers order them to. I am only guessing. I may be wrong. Any bros have better insight into the bar tenders' compensation please shed some light. Any bro with good Spanish should ask a bar tender. If I am wrong I would tip them from now on.
One big advantage, meseros know I would not buy from them, so they leave me alone, never nagging.
Captain Solo
04-06-20, 19:27
Like you I prefer girls with all natural assets. Some girls have ridiculously huge and hard boobs and butts jobs, they can hardly walk straight hehe.
Some pretty girls have beautiful natural bodies, but cover them up with large, ugly tattoos. They are just stupid to think they can add anything to a natural beauty with the crude tattoos.
I cannot tell the girls or the bars what to do with their bodies. I can only vote with my own money. I only tip and screw girls with beautiful natural bodies, no fake boobs, no fake butts, no tats, pretty faces. Nice, sweet, gentle with pleasant, loving attitudes and low local rates. Believe me can always find dozens such girls every time I am in HK. Well, sometimes I do bend the rules a little hehe.
I know one chica in particular who some times works in AB who had a magnificent big round all natural butt just like I like them. And she told me how she had plans to get some work done to get it surgically enhanced. I told her NO! You look perfect the way you are now! I begged her not to do it. And sure enough I ran into her at AB a few months later and she had the fake ass implants or whatever it is that those quack doctors do to these chicks. There are so many chicas who looked great with their natural body and then they completely ruin it with plastic surgery. It's a goddamn crying shame if you ask me.I've dealt with so many natural hotties who ruined their bodies with fake butts, and enriched the quack doctors who mostly aren't very good in Tijuana. Saddens me every time. The Kardashians are partly to blame for normalizing the fat transfer BBL. Even with the very best doctor, it can look ridiculous. But so often it just looks fake and weird and gross. And then they have to go back to the doctors to do it again and again and again. For girls it seems like a win-win, they suck fat out of the stomach and plump up your butt with your own fat! Leaves scars, almost never looks natural, it's painful. Yes it's a crying shame all around.
DramaFree11
04-06-20, 19:49
I've dealt with so many natural hotties who ruined their bodies with fake butts, and enriched the quack doctors who mostly aren't very good in Tijuana. Saddens me every time. The Kardashians are partly to blame for normalizing the fat transfer BBL. Even with the very best doctor, it can look ridiculous. But so often it just looks fake and weird and gross. And then they have to go back to the doctors to do it again and again and again. For girls it seems like a win-win, they suck fat out of the stomach and plump up your butt with your own fat! Leaves scars, almost never looks natural, it's painful. Yes it's a crying shame all around.Well said, and this is one of the many reasons I was disappointed in MDE. It just makes no sense to me, to make your ass bigger.
I agree with most of this except the part about not tipping the bartenders. I always tip whoever serves me my drink whether it's a mesero or bartender. I even tip them when they give me change in dollar bills to tip the girls, just one dollar but they seem to appreciate it.
I actually like tipping the girls when they come up to me, but I make sure to grope and squeeze a big hand full of ass.
I tip the girls dancing on stage some times if I'm feeling it, not a lot but I don't mind pitching in for a hot show.
One thing I've noticed and which I find disturbing is the girls who let guys finger their pussies on stage and even let them STICK DOLLAR BILLS IN THEIR PUSSIES? Seriously what in the fuck is that!? I find that disgusting. You try that in a US strip club and the girls I know will punch you right in your teeth. I'm going to start spreading the word they need to stop that shit. As as guy what kind of weird satisfaction do you get from fingering a chica on stage? I might have thought that was cool if I was like 15 years old, but a grown man wtf?I usually put a dollar between my teeth, then lay back upside down. If a chica picks up my dollar with her pussy instead of her fingers, who am I to stop her?
LuvMexicanas
04-07-20, 00:00
Well said, and this is one of the many reasons I was disappointed in MDE. It just makes no sense to me, to make your ass bigger.A woman with a big fat ass should dump him.
AmorPorFavor
04-07-20, 00:10
Like you I prefer girls with all natural assets. Some girls have ridiculously huge and hard boobs and butts jobs, they can hardly walk straight hehe.
Some pretty girls have beautiful natural bodies, but cover them up with large, ugly tattoos. They are just stupid to think they can add anything to a natural beauty with the crude tattoos.
I cannot tell the girls or the bars what to do with their bodies. I can only vote with my own money. I only tip and screw girls with beautiful natural bodies, no fake boobs, no fake butts, no tats, pretty faces. Nice, sweet, gentle with pleasant, loving attitudes and low local rates. Believe me can always find dozens such girls every time I am in HK. Well, sometimes I do bend the rules a little hehe.I agree 1000%. I won't spend money on chicas with fake anything. That's one thing I love about Cuba. Every chica is all natural. Their health system does not even offer plastic surgery. Plus Cubanas are super hot and sexy. Many with lots of Spanish blood in them.
I guess there's two different definitions of "easy" when it come to a job. "Easy" as in it's an easy task to perform like carrying a plate of food. And "easy" as in easy to learn, requiring little or no training / education / intelligence. A garbageman's job can be defined as the second definition of easy. Whether it meets the first definition is debatable.
But what you describe above about a waiter's job being difficult, well, not really. You describe tasks in which waiters do not perform, such as making sure the food is prepared the specific way it was ordered and keeping food separated. Those tasks are performed by the cook, not the waiter. And the tasks you describe as "difficult" can only be difficult for people with an IQ below the level of imbecile. You say that bringing the "correct" plate of food is difficult? How hard is to tell the difference between a hamburger and a salad? Not that hard I hope. Bringing the correct food is so easy any 10 year old can do it. And while on rare occasions customer do complain to the waiter about things that are not under his control, like the parking lot, it is extremely rare. Most diners' complaints involve quality of food or poor wait service such as forgetting to bring requested items. Overall, a waiter's job is extremely easy. Greet customer, write down their order, relay the order to the cooks, carry plates to the table. Follow up a couple times to make sure food is satisfactory and offer refills and condiments. It's about as easy a job as there is.Now, before I start a "Being a Waiter is a Difficult Job" thread, I'd just like to say this: When I was just a lad, I actually worked in a restaurant. (Of course, this was before I found out that with very little talent & a whole lot of luck, I too, could become a professional douchebag in the entertainment industry.) Yes, I actually worked in a restaurant for a grand total of 2 days. And it was one of the most stressful jobs I ever had. It wasn't so much that it was incredibly mentally challenging (outside of memorizing the ins & outs of a million menu items.) It was having to be *constantly* multi-tasked, while the customers, who thought they were dealing with indentured fucking servants, incessantly called upon you, in the most demeaning & insulting ways, to complain about a bunch of shit, much of which you had no control over anyway.
Now, I'm quite sure that there are tons of jobs that are thousands of times more stressful, more difficult, etc. But that is not the point here. And along those lines, ClamSlammer, I think that you missed my point. My point was that any time you are dealing with the general public, customers, etc. , you are going to have a rough time. And that's because, on an incredibly frequent basis, you will have the most ridiculous demands placed on you & you will be treated like crap while you carry them out. And that's exactly why I tip people in the service industry.
ClamSlammer, you were one of the other people that I was hoping would respond to my post. I read your posts on here quite a bit. You seem pretty knowledgeable, especially when it comes to life in Zona Norte & I've learned quite a bit. Also, your choice of words is often so eloquent. For example, "imbecile". What a great word. I don't hear it often enough, as I usually only get called "moron" or "dumb ass". So, thanks!
Finally, a little side note here: I contribute when I can on this board but it's not nearly as much as I would like & that's simply because I can't find the time. Now, with all my shit cancelled or moved until way later in the year, I've got nothing but time! So, that being said, this is actually the first time in my life that I've gotten involved in an online debate &, well, I'm as giddy as a school girl! I know we're talking about waiters & it's on a forum for men to discuss hookers in Tijuana but, hey, you got to start somewhere, right?
If anyone else wants to fight me on some inane shit, by all means, please let me know!
If anyone else wants to fight me on some inane shit, by all means, please let me know!Just fucking great!
We stopped talking about putas and now we want to start shit with everyone.
After the first three HK meseros short changed me, scammed me, took away a chica's drink half full, harassed me, embarrassed me, tried to intimidate me, starred me down in front of my chica, I stopped giving a fuck about how hard his job is, because I am too busy worried about him stealing my money.
OrganicAlo
04-07-20, 00:59
I'm a bartender and serve also, I'm not going to say it's a difficult job, but it's definitely not a job most people can do, it can be tough. However, us people working in the service industry make pretty good money, plus I only work 25 ish hrs a week giving me plenty of time for school and hobbies.
Now, before I start a "Being a Waiter is a Difficult Job" thread, I'd just like to say this: When I was just a lad, I actually worked in a restaurant. (Of course, this was before I found out that with very little talent & a whole lot of luck, I too, could become a professional douchebag in the entertainment industry.) Yes, I actually worked in a restaurant for a grand total of 2 days. And it was one of the most stressful jobs I ever had. It wasn't so much that it was incredibly mentally challenging (outside of memorizing the ins & outs of a million menu items.) It was having to be *constantly* multi-tasked, while the customers, who thought they were dealing with indentured fucking servants, incessantly called upon you, in the most demeaning & insulting ways, to complain about a bunch of shit, much of which you had no control over anyway.
Now, I'm quite sure that there are tons of jobs that are thousands of times more stressful, more difficult, etc. But that is not the point here. And along those lines, ClamSlammer, I think that you missed my point. My point was that any time you are dealing with the general public, customers, etc. , you are going to have a rough time. And that's because, on an incredibly frequent basis, you will have the most ridiculous demands placed on you & you will be treated like crap while you carry them out. And that's exactly why I tip people in the service industry.
ClamSlammer, you were one of the other people that I was hoping would respond to my post. I read your posts on here quite a bit. You seem pretty knowledgeable, especially when it comes to life in Zona Norte & I've learned quite a bit. Also, your choice of words is often so eloquent. For example, "imbecile". What a great word. I don't hear it often enough, as I usually only get called "moron" or "dumb ass". So, thanks!
Finally, a little side note here: I contribute when I can on this board but it's not nearly as much as I would like & that's simply because I can't find the time. Now, with all my shit cancelled or moved until way later in the year, I've got nothing but time! So, that being said, this is actually the first time in my life that I've gotten involved in an online debate &, well, I'm as giddy as a school girl! I know we're talking about waiters & it's on a forum for men to discuss hookers in Tijuana but, hey, you got to start somewhere, right?
If anyone else wants to fight me on some inane shit, by all means, please let me know!All jobs are easy. To the guy who has never done it.
Years ago, and I forget the reasons, my son worked as a janitor for a brief period of time. Now any half-wit can sweep a floor, right? Well, he had an older "mentor" who taught him the ins and outs. One day years later he was assisting me in sweeping out my shop. I had no idea how involved something as simple as sweeping a floor can be. It all depends on how well you want to do it, and how much pride you take in your work. Much like anything else.
What infuriates me these days is that so much of the service industry has taken it right in the shorts. All the talking heads are pontificating about sheltering in place, and don't leave, and it's for your own good. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of people in the service industry are facing serious economic disaster. But who gives a shit about those people, anyway?
Captain Solo
04-07-20, 18:11
Amorpornada,
I met a beautiful, all -natural Spanish-white Cubana in Florida, immediately fell in love with her pretty, sweet face and her fun, gentle personality.
I was planning a trip to Cuba for educational / humanitarian purposes before the CoVid-19 hit. But all pictures I see in present day Cuba show girls looking very rough, dark, scrawny, bony, hungry, bad skin. Guys have said they could find dark-skin girls for sex, but could never engage light-skin ones in sex. Can you find hot girls like in HK?
Captain Solo
04-07-20, 19:47
Any bro considering asking HK to refund or credit the card for the months it shut down?
The front desk guy may just calmly tell you to "Mete la tarjeta en tu culo".
ClamSlammer
04-07-20, 22:29
It was having to be *constantly* multi-tasked, while the customers, who thought they were dealing with indentured fucking servants, incessantly called upon you, in the most demeaning & insulting ways, to complain about a bunch of shit, much of which you had no control over anyway.
My point was that any time you are dealing with the general public, customers, etc. , you are going to have a rough time. And that's because, on an incredibly frequent basis, you will have the most ridiculous demands placed on you & you will be treated like crap while you carry them out.You are exaggerating the amount of problematic customers those in the service industry. Sure there are a few, and you will inevitably run into them from time to time, but you are trying to make it sound like half the customers you deal with are too demanding, insulting and abusive. Not true. If you provide below-average to good service, these types of customers will be few and far between. It is when you provide terrible service that you will encounter a higher rate of abusive customers. The fact is, if you provide average service or better, the great majority of customers will behave just fine.
My point is, being a waiter is a menial, easy job. Randomly pick 1000 people out of the population. Train them for 2 days and 1000 of them will be able to perform the job. Then take those same 1000 people and train them for two days to be an anesthesiologist. Two days later you will have 0 anesthesiologists.
AmorPorFavor
04-08-20, 02:15
Amorpornada,
I met a beautiful, all -natural Spanish-white Cubana in Florida, immediately fell in love with her pretty, sweet face and her fun, gentle personality.
I was planning a trip to Cuba for educational / humanitarian purposes before the CoVid-19 hit. But all pictures I see in present day Cuba show girls looking very rough, dark, scrawny, bony, hungry, bad skin. Guys have said they could find dark-skin girls for sex, but could never engage light-skin ones in sex. Can you find hot girls like in HK?Most definitely. They are all over the place. Hot black ones too. Was there last November. Getting back ASAP.
Was thinking of just that last month. Hoping they will also extend from 3 to 4 month so they can attract the business back. Lots of people lost their job.
Any bro considering asking HK to refund or credit the card for the months it shut down?
The front desk guy may just calmly tell you to "Mete la tarjeta en tu culo".
ScatManDoo
04-08-20, 03:31
My point is, being a waiter is a menial, easy job. Randomly pick 1000 people out of the population. Train them for 2 days and 1000 of them will be able to perform the job..But you will have 1,000 technicians adequately trained for assignment to hospitals for the purpose of administering happy endings.
ScatManDoo
04-08-20, 05:57
My point is, being a waiter is a menial, easy job. Randomly pick 1000 people out of the population. Train them for 2 days and 1000 of them will be able to perform the job..But you will have 1,000 technicians adequately trained for assignment to hospitals for the purpose of administering happy endings.
HK's bar tenders serve meseros. Did you ever see meseros tip them? I don't think meseros take up collection at shift's end to share their tips with them. Meseros keep all the tips they make.
Everything in La Zona works on incentives and kick backs to the individuals. Unlike the US if HK's bar tenders are allowed to take tip, the meseros would have tipped them. When I tip bar tenders I notice they put the money into the cash register, not their own pockets, and they act cool like it's not necessary or appreciated. I believe bar tenders handle cash for the boss, are not allowed to take money from the bar, and work on salary alone. If they are suspected of stealing from the bar, they may get whacked! I don't want to give tip unnecessarily to help HK's owner get richer! I would rather give that money to the poor girls.
So far they have not resented me or given me hard times. They still sell me beers cheerfully, hold my extra beers in their ice box to keep them cold and give me free beers when the floor managers order them to. I am only guessing. I may be wrong. Any bros have better insight into the bar tenders' compensation please shed some light. Any bro with good Spanish should ask a bar tender. If I am wrong I would tip them from now on.
One big advantage, meseros know I would not buy from them, so they leave me alone, never nagging.I don't know the exact system in place at HK or Mexican clubs, but in an American restaurant for example the waiters pay a "tip out" at the end of the night which is a percentage of their tips to the bartenders and the bussers. So the bartender receives that tip out money plus his own tips from whoever he serves at the bar. With the tip out system the bartender has incentive to make great drinks in a timely manner. The better job he does keeping his servers supplied with their drink orders, the more the meseros make which results in more money for everybody. I'd be very surprised if the tips I give the bartenders when they serve me a drink just go straight to the club owner, but hey I guess I could start asking around to get to the bottom of this.
But now that I think about it the clubs do seem like they're not really set up for guys to order from the bar. Many times I've found it hard to even get the bartender's attention to serve me a drink. Many times when I'm sitting at the bar I still end up ordering from a mesero instead of the bartender. But I like taking care of the meseros. I've never really had a problem with the meseros in Tijuana and I'm a cheap bastard truth be told. I used to show up to a club, not spend one single peso inside the club, and grab a chica to go straight arriba. Slowly I started realizing jeez I should let these people at least make something, so I'll order a drink or a ficha just to put a little money in their pocket and gain a little popularity. A little bit goes a long way especially outside of HK and especially on a slow night. But I always make sure to "set the tone" with my mesero like hey I'm going to take care of you but don't try to play me like I'm a chump.
You are exaggerating the amount of problematic customers those in the service industry. Sure there are a few, and you will inevitably run into them from time to time, but you are trying to make it sound like half the customers you deal with are too demanding, insulting and abusive. Not true. If you provide below-average to good service, these types of customers will be few and far between. It is when you provide terrible service that you will encounter a higher rate of abusive customers. The fact is, if you provide average service or better, the great majority of customers will behave just fine.
My point is, being a waiter is a menial, easy job. Randomly pick 1000 people out of the population. Train them for 2 days and 1000 of them will be able to perform the job. Then take those same 1000 people and train them for two days to be an anesthesiologist. Two days later you will have 0 anesthesiologists.So, you had to do it, huh? You just had to play the anesthesiologist card, didn't you? You've been carrying that around in your back pocket, just waiting for a day like today, & then BOOM!
And I thought this was going to be a fair fight.
You are exaggerating the amount of problematic customers those in the service industryAnd another thing, if I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times, I never exaggerate!
I don't know the exact system in place at HK or Mexican clubs, but in an American restaurant for example the waiters pay a "tip out" at the end of the night which is a percentage of their tips to the bartenders and the bussers. So the bartender receives that tip out money plus his own tips from whoever he serves at the bar. With the tip out system the bartender has incentive to make great drinks in a timely manner. The better job he does keeping his servers supplied with their drink orders, the more the meseros make which results in more money for everybody. I'd be very surprised if the tips I give the bartenders when they serve me a drink just go straight to the club owner, but hey I guess I could start asking around to get to the bottom of this.
But now that I think about it the clubs do seem like they're not really set up for guys to order from the bar. Many times I've found it hard to even get the bartender's attention to serve me a drink. Many times when I'm sitting at the bar I still end up ordering from a mesero instead of the bartender. But I like taking care of the meseros. I've never really had a problem with the meseros in Tijuana and I'm a cheap bastard truth be told. I used to show up to a club, not spend one single peso inside the club, and grab a chica to go straight arriba. Slowly I started realizing jeez I should let these people at least make something, so I'll order a drink or a ficha just to put a little money in their pocket and gain a little popularity. A little bit goes a long way especially outside of HK and especially on a slow night. But I always make sure to "set the tone" with my mesero like hey I'm going to take care of you but don't try to play me like I'm a chump.It may come as a surprise, but the meseros in HK have to pay to work there. I forget the amount. Weekends cost more than weekdays. I think I've heard that the weekend rate is $40/ day, but I am not positive.
The point is that meseros IMO would never tip anybody because they have to hustle and scam and cheat in order to make that daily nut, just to they can turn some kind of profit at the end of the day. Add a shitton of meseros, far more than is really necessary, and you have fierce competition for every peso, and an atmosphere ripe for ripoffs.
Captain Solo
04-08-20, 18:55
Jinxx.
Waiters in most US bars and restaurants split tips with the kitchen staff at shift ends. They always complain violently with their friends that clients are too cheap on tips.
HK club may be different. Bar tenders and meseros leave their shift separately. One time I was at the meseros' shift-end muster in their lockers room on third floor before they went home. Did not see any collection of tips from meseros to split with anyone. AFAIK meseros keep all tip money to themselves.
If you can, ask bar tenders or managers if they are allowed to keep tips from clients or have a split with meseros at shift ends.
Now that HK is temp closed, does anyone know how to get ahold of HK girls that might be willing to still meet up? I don't have any numbers or names. Just curious where they might be advertising or if there's a way to find them.
BigButtDetecto
04-10-20, 23:48
Meseros (waiters) are typically middlemen that increase the cost of the girls. At Adelita's and HK they are not too invasive; however they sometimes follow you like puppies. That's really annoying. On the top op that, when you talk to a girl, they literally put themselves in the middle of your conversation; they also hold the girls for long time acting as if they were clients. I prefer to give money directly to the girls; they are the ones who give me the service. When I order a drink, I always order it directly from the bar counter.
DramaFree11
04-11-20, 02:03
Meseros (waiters) are typically middlemen that increase the cost of the girls. At Adelita's and HK they are not too invasive; however they sometimes follow you like puppies. That's really annoying. On the top op that, when you talk to a girl, they literally put themselves in the middle of your conversation; they also hold the girls for long time acting as if they were clients. I prefer to give money directly to the girls; they are the ones who give me the service. When I order a drink, I always order it directly from the bar counter.Just go upstairs and it is not an issue at all. Better yet take the girls to Azul. I would kill to be at HK now, at least I can work. This real sucks.
You know when you are watching porn and really getting into it when some guy sticks their face on the screen and kills everything? That's what I feel Meseros are, only worse because they expect to get paid for it.
The only time a guy improved my experience there was the first time I went to Hong Kong. I got a VIP card and asked for the half priced lap dance and the bouncer asked if I was into small waist large boobs and hips. I said hell yeah and he found me the best girl I've ever got there. The lap dance was fully nude and lots of rubbing. I asked for arriba immediately and it was the best 10 seconds of my life. I went back down and tipped that guy a fiver. Prob should have tipped him 20.
ClamSlammer
04-11-20, 12:55
You know when you are watching porn and really getting into it when some guy sticks their face on the screen and kills everything?Every single porn director that's ever lived is homosexual. I mean, there's really no reason why I should know what a single male porn star's face looks like, much less 1000. For the life of me I can't figure out why these idiot gay porn directors insist on constant closeups of the male actor's face, usually contorted with wild exaggerations of pleasure. I get so irate I can't even watch that much porn anymore.
You know when you are watching porn and really getting into it when some guy sticks their face on the screen and kills everything? That's what I feel Meseros are, only worse because they expect to get paid for it.
The only time a guy improved my experience there was the first time I went to Hong Kong. I got a VIP card and asked for the half priced lap dance and the bouncer asked if I was into small waist large boobs and hips. I said hell yeah and he found me the best girl I've ever got there. The lap dance was fully nude and lots of rubbing. I asked for arriba immediately and it was the best 10 seconds of my life. I went back down and tipped that guy a fiver. Prob should have tipped him 20.LOL, dude you said seconds and you meant minutes.
I know a Tijuana local who gives 20 a day to street beggers, she would only tip about 50 cents a beer in restaurants bars etc so since I spend 90% of my beer and entertainment $ in tijuana, I decided to stop tipping 1 dollar a beer in hk. It did not go well. By the 2nd time the guy gave me my 50 cents or 75 cents back. I sit at the bar, so this guy doesn't do any work like a waiter in a restaurant. I just don't want to be on waiters shixx list from buying drinks from the bartender directly. These masteries in hk even if you subtract 40 a day to work in the place, no way they don't make 4, to 8 an hour. If you need a drink, it's not like they are standing around doing nothing. They are busy half the time. Remember, some guys order 200 or more in drinks. Asuming those big spenders are tipping aproprietly, and knowing most mongers tip double to triple of what they would tip staff or bars in San Diego for their hometown, I think these waiters in hk are making good money. 40 a day in tijuana isn't bad. I know people on Tijuana who pay 200 to 350 a month for a house with 4 bedrooms. They also get health care that is close to free. Even 30 a day 6 days a week you are living better than many americans. Half the people in NYC work more than 5 days a week and many share bedrooms, 2 people a bedroom, 6 people in 3 bedroom apt, all high school and some college graduates, all full of school loan debts.
LOL, dude you said seconds and you meant minutes.Seconds my friend, seconds.
I was impressed with myself that I didn't nut at the private lapdance. She had a 10 face and an 11 body. It was one of my first times in Hong Kong so I had first timer goggles on but she looked far better than any porn star or blockbuster actress I'd seen. Her skin had a very slight golden tan with a hint of red and was soft and warm. Her rack had to have been augmented because they were big with no sag but felt like naturals. Her face didn't resemble any actress but was very hot. The way she moved and touched me was better than any stripper or go go dancer. She put all my previous fantasies to shame. I've never seen any girl hold a candle to her in Hong Kong in all my visits after.
By now, she's prob old / ugly / sagging everywhere and moves like robocop. Kinda makes you think, mongering is the best way to live. You get to have the best girls at the best time and way more often. No nagging or yelling or watching what use to be the hottest girl rot into your worst nightmare. Living life to the fullest with money in my pockets and a skip in my step. Write that on my tombstone boys.
BobbyJones123
04-11-20, 21:38
My buddy who works as a Meseros at Hong Kong told me during this time they are remodeling the place since they are closed due to the Corona Virus Pandemic. He told me he never thought this would happen and said that it's hitting them really hard. Here are some pic from his instagram story of them fixing and cleaning up the place. At the back enterence they added a sign that said Exclusive Miami. Don't know what that is about didn't ask.
ScatManDoo
04-12-20, 00:03
I know a Tijuana local who gives 20 a day to street beggers, she would only tip about 50 cents a beer in restaurants bars etc so since I spend 90% of my beer and entertainment $ in tijuana, I decided to stop tipping 1 dollar a beer in hk. It did not go well. By the 2nd time the guy gave me my 50 cents or 75 cents back. I sit at the bar, so this guy doesn't do any work like a waiter in a restaurant. I just don't want to be on waiters shixx list from buying drinks from the bartender directly. These masteries in hk even if you subtract 40 a day to work in the place, no way they don't make 4, to 8 an hour. If you need a drink, it's not like they are standing around doing nothing. They are busy half the time. Remember, some guys order 200 or more in drinks. Asuming those big spenders are tipping aproprietly, and knowing most mongers tip double to triple of what they would tip staff or bars in San Diego for their hometown, I think these waiters in hk are making good money. 40 a day in tijuana isn't bad. I know people on Tijuana who pay 200 to 350 a month for a house with 4 bedrooms. They also get health care that is close to free. Even 30 a day 6 days a week you are living better than many americans. Half the people in NYC work more than 5 days a week and many share bedrooms, 2 people a bedroom, 6 people in 3 bedroom apt, all high school and some college graduates, all full of school loan debts.I think you have come to the conclusion that, in HK, a 50 cent tip on a $4 beer is adequate. I agree.
If you are tipping with two quarters, I suggest you instead get yourself Kennedy halves to use instead.
Kennedy halves are just about the same size as Mexico's rarely circulated 20 pesos coins, so recipients likely will think the tip is more than it really is.
No HK mesero has ever tried to insult me by returning my 50 cent or 75 cent tip.
But if one did, I know exactly what I would do.
I would remember his name and number and return to HK the next day. When asked to order a drink I would ask for that same mesero and make my drink order.
It is my understanding that all HK mesero have a working knowledge of English, like it is a requirement in order to be a HK mesero.
After he served me my drink I would thank him verbally and then tell him that I specifically asked for him because he didn't need tips and returned my last one that I gave him.
TheNextOne
04-12-20, 09:53
Hello,
I just registered at the official website of Hong Kong Gentlemen Club to see the gallery of the girls present there.
I notice a lot of these girls have various tattoos on them, does this mean that the girls are controlled by some local mafia or gang? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new here and relatively new to the Monger Scene.
Thanks in advance for the responses.
The Tall Man
04-12-20, 17:48
My buddy who works as a Meseros at Hong Kong told me during this time they are remodeling the place since they are closed due to the Corona Virus Pandemic. He told me he never thought this would happen and said that it's hitting them really hard. Here are some pic from his instagram story of them fixing and cleaning up the place. At the back enterence they added a sign that said Exclusive Miami. Don't know what that is about didn't ask.I remember back in the day when I first walked into HK / Miami Club and it was literally a hole in the wall type of place accessible through the alley only, this was back about 1998 to about 2000 then they started the remodeling and enlargement and it has evolved into what it is today. I have seen and witnessed the evolution of this place and quite remarkable business model. Damn during the day when I had an over abundance of disposable income (I now live in Medellin Colombia) I would take long 4 and 5 weekends a few times each month and spend dollars in all the clubs especially HK like I was printing it.
The remodeling never ceases and it's all for the better.
My last visit to HK was last July when I was in town visiting friends and need to stop in on a future visit.
The Tall Man.
MedalloPack
04-12-20, 19:17
My buddy who works as a Meseros at Hong Kong told me during this time they are remodeling the place since they are closed due to the Corona Virus Pandemic. He told me he never thought this would happen and said that it's hitting them really hard. Here are some pic from his instagram story of them fixing and cleaning up the place. At the back enterence they added a sign that said Exclusive Miami. Don't know what that is about didn't ask.So I guess their thong and tequila party on Wednesday, per their website isn't happening.
AmorPorFavor
04-12-20, 20:39
I remember back in the day when I first walked into HK / Miami Club and it was literally a hole in the wall type of place accessible through the alley only, this was back about 1998 to about 2000 then they started the remodeling and enlargement and it has evolved into what it is today. I have seen and witnessed the evolution of this place and quite remarkable business model. Damn during the day when I had an over abundance of disposable income (I now live in Medellin Colombia) I would take long 4 and 5 weekends a few times each month and spend dollars in all the clubs especially HK like I was printing it.
The remodeling never ceases and it's all for the better.
My last visit to HK was last July when I was in town visiting friends and need to stop in on a future visit.
The Tall Man.I was going to Adelitas a lot during the period 1994-2000. The old rotted unfinished wood floors and bar were literally falling apart. The rooms were cheap and dingy. But the chicas were still hot and sexy and the cerveza was good and cold. The difference in that bar between then and now is night and day.
ScatManDoo
04-12-20, 21:19
Hello,
I just registered at the official website of Hong Kong Gentlemen Club to see the gallery of the girls present there.
I notice a lot of these girls have various tattoos on them, does this mean that the girls are controlled by some local mafia or gang? No, but close.
It just means that they are trying to social distance themselves away from the rancid tobacco breath of the pilot of the Millenium Falcon.
Hello,
I just registered at the official website of Hong Kong Gentlemen Club to see the gallery of the girls present there.
I notice a lot of these girls have various tattoos on them, does this mean that the girls are controlled by some local mafia or gang? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new here and relatively new to the Monger Scene.
Thanks in advance for the responses.I've asked a few of the girls what their tattoos mean. It's usually something about their kid or family. They're usually unique to the girl but I've probably only went arriba with like 20 or so girls with tattoos. I find tattoos unattractive and they got to be a 10 for me to go up with them.
Captain Solo
04-13-20, 18:11
NextOne.
I asked a few HK girls. Most of the tattoos are for remembering their loved ones, like BFs, GFs, children ect. Lots of girls put on tattoos for their BFs or GFs as proof of their love.
A few girls have large tats of Santa Muerte which may indicate affiliation with gangs in large urban cities. I know a few who started in HK tats-free then added on as urged by their friends. Yselle is a skinny lesbian with a very pretty face. Guys like her a lot but she is a cold and hardened lesbian with a butch GF. She started in HK tats free but kept adding tats all over her body and arms, looking hideous.
OTOH street girls usually come from rural villages and small towns. I almost never see any street girls with tats. Street girls tend to be nice, fun, friendly, easy-going, less hardened than tattooed club girls.
Girls with no or only a few small tats are usually nice and sexy with me in the club and in bed, but those with lots of tats tend to be tough, rude, hardened. You have lots of different choices for your taste.
KC Questor
04-13-20, 18:48
I notice a lot of these girls have various tattoos on them, does this mean that the girls are controlled by some local mafia or gang? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new here and relatively new to the Monger Scene.Mostly it means the girls like tattoos, just like girls everywhere nowadays.
Skin graffitti: "As the World Journal of Psychiatry points out in a methodological case study focusing on statistical distributions and issues relating to epidemiology, tattoos were traditionally associated with deviance and psychopathology, typically criminals, gang members and "others belonging to marginalized and counter-cultural groups. " (One recalls those Grade be gangster films featuring Russian mafia members, their arms, backs and chests slathered with lurid insignia rankings.) Tattoos serve "to align the wearer with a specific group.
Commenters: It is a scourge on society. People do it for acceptance and "to be cool. " "34 percent of people with hepatitis see had a tattoo, compared to 12 percent of people without the infection. " (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tattoo-hepatitis-c_n_2546592).
The body does not like the tattoo ink; it does not stay put but migrates trough the body and concentrates in lymph nodes where it will be a future cancer causing agent. Wait for the wave of cancer cases for tattooed people.
Skin reacts to tattoo ink as a poison to be expelled. So it sends what ever ink it can to the lymph nodes, where it collects and stays. Eventually this inhibits the ability of the nodes to do their normal job of fighting infections. (Why are you unable to breathe? Possibly because you are unable to fight off the COVID19 infection due to disabling your lymph nodes?
Overall, use lots of disinfectant and wash hands when with tattooed girls. . . Cause hep see and Covid19 aren't fun to get!
Mostly it means the girls like tattoos, just like girls everywhere nowadays.
NegotiateHard
04-14-20, 02:36
HK valet employee Luis is in his mid to late 20's, short, slim, light skin, brown hair and has been seen yelling "coronavirus" at Asian clients before and during the lockdown. He screams it out loud like it's a big joke, not caring about making people feel at home. Please keep in mind this employee for after this lockdown is over.
Anyone ever take a sex toy into HK or another club? Curious what the door bouncers would do. Nothing big, maybe a small pocket vibrator or something. Wonder if the girls would be receptive to it downstairs if done discretely.
LuvMexicanas
04-19-20, 17:52
HK valet employee Luis is in his mid to late 20's, short, slim, light skin, brown hair and has been seen yelling "coronavirus" at Asian clients before and during the lockdown. He screams it out loud like it's a big joke, not caring about making people feel at home. Please keep in mind this employee for after this lockdown is over.Well, if there are any Thai guys on this thread, perhaps a signature hard low kick from the motherland might teach Luis some manners.
I suspect if the doormen caught you with a sex toy like a dildo or vibrator, they might believe you have ED and are bringing a strap on replacement to satisfy your girlfriend. . . You would probably be the butt of jokes in Spanish, which shouldn't bother you if you don't understand Spanish. Think there was a scene in the movie "Spinal Tap" where this short band dude got caught by a security guard with a metal detector. He had stuffed a aluminum foil covered zucchini in his pants to make it look like he had something there to fool women. . . In other words, he was a cockfisher. Worth a look on Youtube for laffs.
Anyone ever take a sex toy into HK or another club? Curious what the door bouncers would do. Nothing big, maybe a small pocket vibrator or something. Wonder if the girls would be receptive to it downstairs if done discretely.
Captain Solo
04-20-20, 00:24
A few guys with ED carry vibrators with them in small hand bags.
They would not tell me how they use the toys, but obviously they would stimulate the girls, make them come before they try to raise an erection and penetrate with their own dicks. I found rubbing clit and G spot while sucking tits usually get girls highly aroused and give them powerful orgasms. They would be in ecstasy, gasp, pant, moan, squeeze, claw, bite, quickly raising my erection. Their pussies get so wet, sloppy and delicious when you slide your dick in.
Other guys are experts at cunnilingus and give the girls huge orgasms. Girls can have multiple orgasms and like guys who can make them come.
It's good to be bar girls!
Anyone ever take a sex toy into HK or another club? Curious what the door bouncers would do. Nothing big, maybe a small pocket vibrator or something. Wonder if the girls would be receptive to it downstairs if done discretely.I took a jeweled butt plug down with me once; wanted to see if I could talk a girl into letting me put it in her ass while we fucked doggystyle. I put it in my front pocket so I could show girls in the club before we got into the room and, like you, I was curious to see what would happen at the door. In short, I didn't find anyone willing (although it wasn't an exhaustive search. And, in hindsight, it was relatively big for the petite girls I'm attracted to). As for the doorman, when I got the pat-down he asked me to take it out to show him. Once he realized it wasn't a weapon, we shared an "all knowing" smile but he didn't act like it wasn't a big deal. I don't know if he was laughing AT me or with me but I didn't really care. I'm sure there's a lot more going on that's much more fucked up than a sex toy.
I think you have come to the conclusion that, in HK, a 50 cent tip on a $4 beer is adequate. I agree.
No HK mesero has ever tried to insult me by returning my 50 cent or 75 cent tip.
I would thank him verbally and then tell him that I specifically asked for him because he didn't need tips and returned my last one that I gave him.I like how you think SMD. I might also try that idea with the 50 cent pieces.
HK valet employee Luis is in his mid to late 20's, short, slim, light skin, brown hair and has been seen yelling "coronavirus" at Asian clients before and during the lockdown. He screams it out loud like it's a big joke, not caring about making people feel at home. Please keep in mind this employee for after this lockdown is over.Don't take it personally. I have heard that Mexicans are always joking in this way. Such jokes in the US can be offensive in Mexico is normal and no one is offended.
Captain Solo
04-20-20, 16:43
Agree with StRobert, that the guy was most likely joking.
GoodSense3
04-24-20, 01:56
Chica story from like Oct or Nov 2019.
- Saw most Cardi b. lookin chick light brown skin tone petite in HK never seen before.
- Everytime I check out teej theres always a few chicas that I've seen before and some I have not.
- Forgot what time and day it was when met.
- Her cardi be lookin ass had some super perky tits when she came up to me and she appeared to not really have any tatoos.
- Tatoos aare usually more of a turnoff for me. 1 Thing about these chicks in Mexico is that they don't have as many tats as you think they would especially street wall chicks.
- Had a quick session but as walkin 2 room in Cascadas one of Cascadas employee dudes kinda said wzup 2 cardi lookin chick that went in room with me like he was gonna try 2 get w her later lol.
- Had quick 20 min decent session she was pretty energetic.
- Gave her 900 pesos cause that's what I told her in HK club thanks 2 Captain Solo negotiation tips and she accepted deal and yes I have had offers rejected plenty of times cause I refuse 2 pay 80 even tho I. She has 2 be the baddest chick I eva seen to even think about 80 LOL.
Captain Solo
04-24-20, 04:37
Goodsense,
By your descriptions, petite brown skin tone, 5 ' 98 lbs with perky tits and bubble butt, sparkling eyes, pretty smile, full lips, she may be Paola from Puebla. A few of my wingmen are in love with that girl. She would whine softly in her ecstasy while caressing your back and your arms.
Where the hell have you been last couple years? The chicas asked about you. I did not know what to tell them. They suspect you had terminal Ed and had to retire from the hobby.
I guess you just have to prove to everyone of them that your dick is not dead!
Rainman306
04-27-20, 02:20
This inquiry applies to all clubs not just Hong Kong.
Has anyone found out what the price of club options such as the 3 song lap dance or 30 or 60 minute VIP is in Pesos rather than dollars? I know Arriba is generally quoted at 1500 pesos and for drinks and fischas they used an 18.5 ratio.
With a favorable exchange rate and maybe lessened demand, this may be the summer of major bargains.
One last question, has anyone paid for Hotel Cascades or it's sister hotel in Pesos?
ScatManDoo
04-27-20, 02:53
One last question, has anyone paid for Hotel Cascades or it's sister hotel in Pesos?Yes, they accept both dollars and pesos at Cascades & Rizo de Oro (above Bar Tropical) for rooms.
I have paid for rooms with pesos at both hotels over the years.
I always make the deposits for safe keys & television remotes & air conditioning remotes using pesos as well.
Most of the time I get the same peso deposits back in Mexican currency.
But sometimes they repay my peso deposits in dollars, usually at a value greater than the original deposit.
ChinaMan360
04-27-20, 05:54
Don't take it personally. I have heard that Mexicans are always joking in this way. Such jokes in the US can be offensive in Mexico is normal and no one is offended.As someone who grew up by the border in a town with over 50% Hispanic population, your kinda right. Mexicans love to bust balls, but it's still offensive, and I've seen tons of fights break out among mexicans because of this "bust your ball attitude. " Coronavirus being shouted is not that annoying as maybe Jackie chan and chink I guess, but I've smacked a mexican fool with these chino hands for less before. I do need to practice my judo throws, it's been a while, Luis might be a good practice dummy
KC Questor
04-27-20, 18:26
As someone who grew up by the border in a town with over 50% Hispanic population, your kinda right. Mexicans love to bust balls, but it's still offensive, and I've seen tons of fights break out among mexicans because of this "bust your ball attitude."Yes, but also note that words we find offensive are not often considered (or intended) to be insulting, even with the "bust your balls" mentality. Calling someone "Gordita" or "Viejo" would be like in English saying "Fatty" or "Old man" and would be rude. And we would consider it really bad to refer to a random Asian person as "Chinese", but it's not intended as an insult if a Mexican calls all Asian people "chino". There's a difference between playfully taking the piss versus just using adjectives that other cultures find rude.
Baxter Slade
04-27-20, 19:05
Yes, but also note that words we find offensive are not often considered (or intended) to be insulting, even with the "bust your balls" mentality. Calling someone "Gordita" or "Viejo" would be like in English saying "Fatty" or "Old man" and would be rude. And we would consider it really bad to refer to a random Asian person as "Chinese", but it's not intended as an insult if a Mexican calls all Asian people "chino". There's a difference between playfully taking the piss versus just using adjectives that other cultures find rude.Thanks for clearing that up. There is a Mexican guy I work with on occaison. The guy he works with calls him gordo and he is. So knowing the translation I was hesitant to use the term. But now that's how I greet him and its no problem.
Now on the other hand when female friends in Mexico refer to me as idiota. Yea I took it personal but I have learned to accept it.
ChinaMan360
04-27-20, 21:54
Thanks for clearing that up. There is a Mexican guy I work with on occaison. The guy he works with calls him gordo and he is. So knowing the translation I was hesitant to use the term. But now that's how I greet him and its no problem.
Now on the other hand when female friends in Mexico refer to me as idiota. Yea I took it personal but I have learned to accept it.Well, except the fact is that he is your coworker who you have worked with for a while. I've called the mexicans I went to school with pendejos all the time, but if you call a random person Gordo or pendejo, it might not go that well because they don't know you.
I've called some latinas I know cochina which wouldn't offend them. But that's a gamble to say to a random girl you just met you know?
ChinaMan360
04-27-20, 22:03
Yes, but also note that words we find offensive are not often considered (or intended) to be insulting, even with the "bust your balls" mentality. Calling someone "Gordita" or "Viejo" would be like in English saying "Fatty" or "Old man" and would be rude. And we would consider it really bad to refer to a random Asian person as "Chinese", but it's not intended as an insult if a Mexican calls all Asian people "chino". There's a difference between playfully taking the piss versus just using adjectives that other cultures find rude.LOL its offensive to refer to a chinese person as chinese? Californian asians get offended easily so I'm just going to ignore what they get offended by (I'm an asian born in El paso).
The thing is when your saying stuff to strangers they don't know you. You can normally call your friends stuff that would be offensive when you say it to random people, it doesn't really matter what culture. Chino is kinda like the word Jew. Just by saying it a certain way it can rub some people the wrong way.
When someone is yelling Coronavirus in your face. Your not a mind reader and you don't know them. They could be insulting you or not. If they were trying to be friendly there's better ways to go about it. When someone is busting your balls they usually have a past relationship with you. A random person shouting at you across the street is probably trying to get a rise out of you. Me yelling fried chicken at black people walking by is just a joke am I rite? Anyway, saying anything race related is going to be a gamble in hows it's going to be perceived.
LuvMexicanas
04-27-20, 22:28
Well, except the fact is that he is your coworker who you have worked with for a while. I've called the mexicans I went to school with pendejos all the time, but if you call a random person Gordo or pendejo, it might not go that well because they don't know you.
I've called some latinas I know cochina which wouldn't offend them. But that's a gamble to say to a random girl you just met you know?Totally agree that what matters is whether you're talking to someone you're reasonably close to or a stranger. The quintessential example is the word cabron. My Mexico City and Sonora buddies call each other that all the time, but try saying that to a total stranger.
KC Questor
04-28-20, 19:24
LOL its offensive to refer to a chinese person as chinese?No, in the US it's offensive to call a Japanese or Thai or Korean person "Chinese". In Mexico, any Asian is referred to as "chino" and it is not intended as a slur.
Rainman306
04-28-20, 22:23
Noticed on the website that the price of the HK VIP Card went up to $60 and the Monday & Tuesday discount went down to 70% off.
My HK VIP. Expired. 90 day $50 July 2020. Newsom Stay at Home Order.
Noticed on the website that the price of the HK VIP Card went up to $60 and the Monday & Tuesday discount went down to 70% off.
ChinaMan360
04-30-20, 00:44
No, in the US it's offensive to call a Japanese or Thai or Korean person "Chinese". In Mexico, any Asian is referred to as "chino" and it is not intended as a slur.Well theres not many asians to complain about that ignorance in Mexico. Calling every asian person chinese used to not be that offensive in the US because no asian person really gave that much argument against it. I agree that chino isn't really a slur, kinda borders it though but whatever. Like what Louie ck has said before, chino is like the word jew, it becomes a slur if you just add some stink to it. Chino, blackie, whitey, all are words that could easily be offensive or not depending on the user.
Rainman306
05-05-20, 00:21
There are only a few hotels in La Zona with clean rooms and clean sheets for ST sex: Cascada, Ibiza, Garcia, Mini, Rapido. The rest are filthy with bad-smelling.
This is a quote / response to an older post on this forum. It would be nice to know the exact location of each nice hotel. Would also add Hotel Rizo De Orzo to the list.
Hotels Cascades and Ibiza are large and pretty obvious hotels to notice with very large and obvious signage. Can anyone comment on the precise location of Garcia, Rapido and Mini?
ScatManDoo
05-05-20, 03:19
There are only a few hotels in La Zona with clean rooms and clean sheets for ST sex: Cascada, Ibiza, Garcia, Mini, Rapido. The rest are filthy with bad-smelling.
This is a quote / response to an older post on this forum. It would be nice to know the exact location of each nice hotel. Would also add Hotel Rizo De Orzo to the list.
Hotels Cascades and Ibiza are large and pretty obvious hotels to notice with very large and obvious signage. Can anyone comment on the precise location of Garcia, Rapido and Mini?Hotel Garcia is located on the southwest corner of the crossroad intersection, directly above La Gloria Bar. Their main entrance is next to, and just east of Adelitas Bar.
Rapido Inn has a large sign. It is located on Constitution's east sidewalk, a few store fronts south of the crossroads (intersection of Coahuila & Constitution).
Hotel Mini is next to, and above, La Capruicilla (SP?) Bar. A long hallway in between two buildings on the east side of the alley's north sidewalk, leads to its oficina. It is basically nestled in between El Porton & La Valentina.
LuvMexicanas
05-05-20, 06:03
Your post heading says decent and then you mentioned nice in the body of your report. I will assume you meant decent. If that's the case, I am a fan of Hotel Coahuila above Adelitas. It's decent to me especially the non-short time rooms on the third floor and you can't beat $20 a night Monday-Wednesday. A couple of my favorite photos that I've posted in this thread were taken in third floor rooms in Hotel Coahuila.
There are only a few hotels in La Zona with clean rooms and clean sheets for ST sex: Cascada, Ibiza, Garcia, Mini, Rapido. The rest are filthy with bad-smelling.
This is a quote / response to an older post on this forum. It would be nice to know the exact location of each nice hotel. Would also add Hotel Rizo De Orzo to the list.
Hotels Cascades and Ibiza are large and pretty obvious hotels to notice with very large and obvious signage. Can anyone comment on the precise location of Garcia, Rapido and Mini?Garcia is on the SW corner of Coahuila and Constitucion, entrance is on Coahuila.
Baxter Slade
05-05-20, 15:43
Garcia is on the SW corner of Coahuila and Constitucion, entrance is on Coahuila.As far as hotel rapido. Now that you know where hotel Garcia is if you walk south on Constitution about 25 feet from garcia and then cross constitution you will be just about in front of Hotel Rapido.
As far as Mini its located in the alley on the North side. Somewhere between Constitution and La Valentina bar. Sorry I can't be more exact I get that one mixed up with the other hotel in that stretch. BUT I'm 90 % sure its the one just west of El Corral bar.
LuvMexicanas
05-05-20, 18:42
Your post heading says decent and then you mentioned nice in the body of your report. I will assume you meant decent. If that's the case, I am a fan of Hotel Coahuila above Adelitas. It's decent to me especially the non-short time rooms on the third floor and you can't beat $20 a night Monday-Wednesday. A couple of my favorite photos that I've posted in this thread were taken in third floor rooms in Hotel Coahuila.I forgot to attach the photos.
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