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It would great if a lot of HK girls started working the streets. My big complaint with HK is that 99% want $100. I would be willing to pay a moderate price if some of the HK girls were willing to do BBJ / facials. I would like to locate some of the HK girils that work in some the hotels.
I w.Most of those HK girls don't need the money. I had a room at Hotel Leyva for 3 years and was offering Bar Girls $80 per HR in my room. I'd go into HK and give out my Tijuana number when appropriate but very few called. What I did have success with is catching a handful of the SG's when they first arrived to Tijuana BEFORE they started working in the bars for much higher prices.
If I was a HK hooker there is no way I'd go through all the effort for an $80 date off the clock unless I was desperate. Chances are if I needed to do that I shouldn't be working at HK.
That's fairly surprising given the poverty in Mexico. My guess is that they are implying that they make enough from HK. Personally I have doubts given the high guy to girl ratio. A lot of the girls wait around in hopes of getting a date.
Most of those HK girls don't need the money. I had a room at Hotel Leyva for 3 years and was offering Bar Girls $80 per HR in my room. I'd go into HK and give out my Tijuana number when appropriate but very few called. What I did have success with is catching a handful of the SG's when they first arrived to Tijuana BEFORE they started working in the bars for much higher prices.
If I was a HK hooker there is no way I'd go through all the effort for an $80 date off the clock unless I was desperate. Chances are if I needed to do that I shouldn't be working at HK.
Captain Solo
05-28-21, 07:38
ADumbRookie,
I always have fun with noobs and old wingmen in La Zona. We have so much fun every visit that we always look for every opportunity to go down to Tijuana to party with hot, girls, nice, clean, wholesome recreation for everyone young or old if you ask me hehe.
A noob was very scared of Tijuana and was apprehensive in his first visit. He partied with a couple HK girls, got infatuated with a hot girl. That's him in the pic sucking on her tits hehe. He drove down by himself the next night to meet up with that girl. That's some serious devotion.
Would be happy to show you around La Zona if our schedules match up. But La Zona has a couple titties bars with hundreds bar girls and street girls, all in one compact block, easy to navigate. Just cross the border and take UBER to Hong Kong. Stay in the bars and walk only within the bar block, you will be plenty safe. You don't need to speak Spanish to get whatever you want. Lots of girls speak adequate English. The hot girls will take your hand and guide you all the way to the pinnacle of pleasure and happiness.
There are many food stands and a few restaurants around the bar block. Azul's is right above Hong Kong, food is pretty good. Many good restaurants are within 3 mile radius of La Zona, only $2-3 UBER rides.
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Hi guys,
I went to Tijuana to restock the vitamin V at the the pharmacy across from the wax museum near the arch. The pills are very cheap there. So, I visited HK, Adelitas, Chicago and Tropical. They had some lookers but the greedy WG all wanted a Benjamin for a covered short-time with an express service bad attitude so I just copped a feel for a buck each and left. Stayed at a place called Plaza del Oro for $40 all night and asked the manager to send over a busty masseuse to massage and blow me for $100 which she did most both activities most enthusiastically. I was a little nervous at the border because I got busted last time for buying too much Viagra and also I did not have my passport with me this time (it's at the Philippines Consulate in San Francisco being processed for a visa). But it was no prob with a copy of the passport I just breezed through after the 2.5 hour wait driving through customs, a model of inefficiency. Methinks I will not be going back to Mexico ever again, as the pastures are much greener in Asia and the Caribbean. Cheers.
There is some kind of pressure being put on girls to sell drinks. Use to be girls would jump at the chance to make sex money specially for certain prices. Last two times I was there over last 7 weeks I have seen multiple girls say they want more drinks before going up stairs.
I did not think much of it at time as I call this my Interview time. Get to find out how fun this girl will be in the bed. It was starting to get on my nerves last time.
Would not surprise me at all if they starting letting girls go because of lack of drink sales. If it gets too bad who knows what changes may come.
Jackie,
If HK laid off 80 girls, many if not most of them would be in the alley selling sex for 400 pesos or $20 per session. This is the equivalent of a market correction on Wall street. You will probably find a few hot HK girls working in the alley starting this week.
About 80% HK girls just hang around all night, not selling any fichas, not hooking any guys to go to the hotel. For the last couple weeks management's pressure was on them. Girls seemed desperate and were far more aggressive, tugging on guys with meseros instantly hovering over them suggesting fichas, but there were just too many girls and the competition was fierce. May be only 10% of guys would buy fichas or take girls upstairs any night. The rest just hang around ogling girls for free. It's obvious supply side is high but prices for fichas and sessions remain too high, so demand is low, but most HK girls have their pride to feed and hope to make big money, most would go hungry than adjusting their pride and prices down.
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Captain Solo
05-28-21, 19:50
Hadez,
Yep. HK girls were pressured to sell more fichas and they were desperate. Not too many guys would spring for $9 fichas and $100 quickie sessions, except a few young noobs who went with me recently hehe.
I think big changes in HK are coming. HK probably takes in 90% or more of all bar revenues in La Zona. Don't know what tricks they have to bring in more revenue and profit. Firing 80 chicas at one time is cruel. The poor girls would hang out working for free for HK most night. They do not drain HK's resources but make the club more lively and interesting. I suggested a few changes to their business model and pricing structure, but It's probably getting more expensive soon. Hehe.
Hadez,
Yep. HK girls were pressured to sell more fichas and they were desperate. Not too many guys would spring for $9 fichas and $100 quickie sessions, except a few young noobs who went with me recently hehe.
I think big changes in HK are coming. HK probably takes in 90% or more of all bar revenues in La Zona. Don't know what tricks they have to bring in more revenue and profit. Firing 80 chicas at one time is cruel. The poor girls would hang out working for free for HK most night. They do not drain HK's resources but make the club more lively and interesting. I suggested a few changes to their business model and pricing structure, but It's probably getting more expensive soon. Hehe.HK should go back to the older business model about 3 years ago. Reasonable pricing. It's not our fucking fault that they were fucked in the head and expanded taking over Chevelas and converting the old garage into a wing, and then pass on the buck to us consumers. Holy shit, from Mondays to Thursdays, they don't have enough customers to warrant opening up the full 2nd floor and some fuck head in their organization decides to expand. HK forgets that the girls drive this business. Where the girls go, we go. That includes Chicago, Adelitas, Tropical, and the lesser dive bars. While HK is number 1, it is not that much above number 2 and 3. Good that HK blames the girls. Now those 80 can go over to Chicago, Adelitas, Tropical and increase supply and competition, driving down prices. Yeah, I still like to wander in HK on the weekdays. But I think I'll leave it to the guys in the leather pants and suits to fund HK business decisions and take my humble dollars to the other clubs. Frankly, it's not that HK girls are keeping my business. It's Cascadas.
Dickus Maximus
05-29-21, 06:33
Yep, I agree completely. Problem with option 2 is that it is extremely difficult for these women to get a regular job pays more than 60 dollars a week with 12 hour workdays 6 days a week. I know that I'm going to get crap from the know it alls on this board for saying this but it is the truth. And based on this, the women will make every excuse to have you fund everything.An average girl makes 60 dollars a week working 12 hour days 6 days a week. (1200 pesos, check. 12 hours six days a weak, probably more like 10 hours a day 6 days a week, but doesn't change the result) So, how hard do you think it is to pick up any average girl in town if you can give them a hundred dollars a week and all they have to do to keep you happy is screw you a few times a week?
Baxter Slade
05-29-21, 07:04
An average girl makes 60 dollars a week working 12 hour days 6 days a week. (1200 pesos, check. 12 hours six days a weak, probably more like 10 hours a day 6 days a week, but doesn't change the result) So, how hard do you think it is to pick up any average girl in town if you can give them a hundred dollars a week and all they have to do to keep you happy is screw you a few times a week?Very doable the current GF works in a factory 7 am To 7 p. M but 4 days a week. She does have the option to work the 5th day. So I help with rent, and I save on hotel expenses when I come on weekends and have a warm body to cuddle up to todo la noche and she is a sweet women. Also making sure the fridge is stocked with things I like.
Do I need a good reason for the border guards to cross the border?
Baxter Slade
05-29-21, 15:52
Do I need a good reason for the border guards to cross the border?I guess it doesn't hurt. Supposedly the essential travel excuse is over entering Mexico. But that does not mean you will not get that agent who insists you need the $30 dollar fmm. Its all hit and miss depending on the agent you deal with. If you make it clear its only a day trip and have a passport or passport card you should be ok.
If you don't want to use fing h o's as a reason, you can use buy medicine or going for the food or bet on sports in the Caliente or the old looking for a dentist.
Do I need a good reason for the border guards to cross the border?In a word, no. If they do bother to ask, tell them you're going to the dentist.
In a word, no. If they do bother to ask, tell them you're going to the dentist.I don't think I can use the dentist excuse on a Saturday night. Any other good excuses?
I don't believe that HK takes a cut of the girls fees when they go with a guy upstairs. But It would not surprise me that they do this.
Hadez,
Yep. HK girls were pressured to sell more fichas and they were desperate. Not too many guys would spring for $9 fichas and $100 quickie sessions, except a few young noobs who went with me recently hehe.
I think big changes in HK are coming. HK probably takes in 90% or more of all bar revenues in La Zona. Don't know what tricks they have to bring in more revenue and profit. Firing 80 chicas at one time is cruel. The poor girls would hang out working for free for HK most night. They do not drain HK's resources but make the club more lively and interesting. I suggested a few changes to their business model and pricing structure, but It's probably getting more expensive soon. Hehe.
I don't think I can use the dentist excuse on a Saturday night. Any other good excuses?If you're that worried about it, cross at Otay. They rarely bother to check ID.
KC Questor
05-29-21, 23:43
I don't think I can use the dentist excuse on a Saturday night. Any other good excuses?I said dinner with friends every time I crossed on my last trip. Crossed three times without having to buy a VIP. The third time through the guy said "Back again?
Captain Solo
05-30-21, 00:10
I don't think the Mexican Imm guys are all stupid to believe crossing into Mexico just for dinner.
They immediately figured you were going to dine at your chica's why.
Captain Solo
05-30-21, 03:45
Drove down with 2 noobs Friday afternoon. It would be their first visit to Tijuana and both were eager to go. Both were young, one never had a serious GF, the other is living with an ex GF until the end of the apartment lease.
Got in Chavelas about 4 PM. A noob had a cherubic and clean shaven face, looking very young, like half his age. Security guys were suspicious, checked his ID carefully, even pinched his cheek to make sure he was real and of age hehe. Chavelas had about 10 girls wearing masks, sitting glumly in booths scattered all over the bar, but it was too dark inside to know who they were or what they looked like. There was no show, no activities or a focal point, no interaction between girls and guys. The place was dead like a morgue.
Went over Hong Kong's side, it had about 40 girls. The strip show and lesbian show were going. We were sitting in a booth near the main stage watching the strip show and ogling hot girls. The girls looked much more attractive in HK with stage lights and many bright video monitors.
Saw a few very hot, glammy girls, like movie stars. Sasha was sitting by the stage for a long time not doing any business. She looked sad and worried. During the bar closure time, girls were all desperately low on fund. I was buying her a few fichas in the speakeasy to catch up, but she quickly pushed me to go to the hotel for sex, then rushed me to pop so she could immediately go off to smoke something. Looked like she was low on money as her addiction was grinding her down, and she was desperate.
A few strippers were very attractive and could really dance. The strip show got boring after a while. By 5 a lot more girls came in to work, but this week the hottest HK girls were banished to Chavelas, Frieda, Suki, Carolina, Lydia and a few others I did not recall names. They were not allowed back in HK, standing around in the dark, unable to show off their assets, looking pretty despondent. Suki was smart, stood near the door to HK where it was brighter. I saw her, came over kissing, giving her propinas. Suki's a cleanliness freak, soaping and showering me down thoroughly. I like to slide on her soapy body, my duck slippering on her soapy crotch, very sensual and erotic, gets me big boners every time. The 4-ft tall Belen has been back working the last few weeks. She did hook a guy to go to the hotel. Looks like HK was trying to move hot girls away from congested areas so the crowd would follow them to empty space in Chavelas, but guys could not see girls in that dark, boring bar and few followed them. Man, that was pretty stupid. HK should let the girls wherever they like. That would make them and their clients happy.
Ran into a bro from Philadelphia who had been staying in Cascada 2 weeks, bagging 3 girls a day average. What a good life. I really enjoy catching up with the bros when they are in town like good old friends. I urged the noobs to walk around the club and pick up any girl they like for company, but both came back quickly and did not seem to find any girls of interest. Meseros brought over a few girls but they also turned them down. Looked like noobs were intimidated in some ways in HK so they never approached or talked to any girls.
After sitting around drinking a few beers, noobs got restless, eventually said HK was kind of high pressure for them and they wanted to check out other bars. A few HK girls were looking young, hot, glammy and flirtsy like movie stars. I did not understand what the noobs were looking for. Last week a noob was so much in love with his first HK girl, he drove back a long way the next night by himself to bag her again. That looked like true love to me hehe. I should bring my psychiatrist friend along so he can carefully analyze the noobs and suggest behavior modifications to improve their lives, social, emotional, financial, sexual, spiritual ect. We have all the tools and supplies we ever need right here in La Zona to remedy any human ailments.
We went in all other bars but did not stay. Both noobs liked Tropical much better. We stayed for a couple drinks and will post info in the Tropical thread.
Found 2 ex HK girls working on Constitucion. They looked nice, clean, very attractive in semi revealing clothes on the street in the golden afternoon sunlight hehe.
Never had bad times, only good, sexy times in La Zona.
Went to HK Wednesday night. Seems like mostly new girls. Didn't see too many familiar faces. Usually I don't like girls with short hair but there was this one in particular who had one of the best bodies I've ever seen. She quoted me 100 and not willing to come down. She said in fact 100 was the "bargain" price because regular price is 120. I scoffed at that and sent her on her way. Saw her standing around all night not getting any clients. Couple other girls were standing firm at 100 as well. Seems like the newbies are trying to set a new standard. Ran into a pretty aggressive girl on the chavelas side who quoted me 100. I countered with 80 and she quickly accepted. Forget what her name was but it sounded something like Capri. She was pretty cool in bed but no DFK. I haven't read through the last couple pages but seems like they're offering a new deal where instead of 20 for the room you can opt for 30 and they include 2 beers. Didn't take them up on that offer but maybe some of you wouldn't mind paying for it if you don't already have a room of your own.
I also stopped by Tropical. To my surprise there were a ton of girls in there that night. Outnumbered the men pretty easily about 4:1. Problem is these girls just aren’t as hot as HK girls. Most of em look pretty average at best. With as many girls in there I didn’t spot any who I would rate above a 6.
Edit: I see a couple of you talking about your reasons for crossing into Mexico on foot. The excuse I always use is to pick up some medicine. Always works for me although nowadays I think they dont care as much for your reasoning for going to Mexico.
Get a copy of a recent drug prescription and take it with you. Tell them you going to get prescription filled. Chance are they will make you get a FMM / Visa. After this all you need to is to show the FMM / Visa to them and they will not ask why you are crossing.
I don't think I can use the dentist excuse on a Saturday night. Any other good excuses?
Do I need a good reason for the border guards to cross the border?Buy a 6 month visa for $ 30. This solves all problems. For 6 months you can enter Mexico without restrictions and no questions asked. Walk in line for Mexicans and just a show visa and that's it.
Buy a 6 month visa for $ 30. This solves all problems. For 6 months you can enter Mexico without restrictions and no questions asked. Walk in line for Mexicans and just a show visa and that's it.This is good advice. I've been walking across weekly for the last couple of months and this is the best way to go. Some try to get the less than 7-day FMM, but many seemed to end up in the back room behind the last two desks. Once you are in the back room, you can use any damn excuse you want (I'm sure they heard it all already), but you will still end up buying the 6 month FMM.
I don't think I can use the dentist excuse on a Saturday night. Any other good excuses?I've used "I'm going to visit my (uncle, mom, sister) tomorrow and need to buy medicine before I go". This usually gets me the seven-day pass for free.
Went Saturday night of Memorial Weekend.
Parked by border, walked in. About 5 people in front of me in line. Only 1 Mexican customs worker. Didn't say a word or ask a questions. Simply scanned and wrote some info off of my passport card and off I went.
Took taxi to HK (although I did see the limo) paid Taxi $7. (current rate is $6 + $1 tip) I've learned its better just to hand them money and not ask. If you ask, the rate is $8 or $10 depending on driver.
Mandatory drink / cover is back at HK. $5 dollars or 95 pesos for a can of tecate, however you can take that can of tecate to the bar and trade it for whatever drink you do want. It will either be same price of pay the $3 difference for premium hard alcohol.
Place was packed as you would expect from a holiday weekend. Not the hotest chicks, however walking around, you will eventually find someone you are interested in. If you don't walk back with your chica after the session, make sure to get a wristband or else they will ask you to buy another drink to re-enter.
Taxi back to "La Linea" barely any wait. Usual questions, "anything to declare?" . "Where you headed?
Warning: Do not drive your car into Mexico wanting to head back in the middle of the night. (Unless you have SENTRI) It will take you 6-8 hours. It seems like they close many lanes from midnight to 6 am.
MarksOfMagic
05-31-21, 14:11
HK should go back to the older business model about 3 years ago. Reasonable pricing. It's not our fucking fault that they were fucked in the head and expanded taking over Chevelas and converting the old garage into a wing, and then pass on the buck to us consumers. Holy shit, from Mondays to Thursdays, they don't have enough customers to warrant opening up the full 2nd floor and some fuck head in their organization decides to expand. HK forgets that the girls drive this business. Where the girls go, we go. That includes Chicago, Adelitas, Tropical, and the lesser dive bars. While HK is number 1, it is not that much above number 2 and 3. Good that HK blames the girls. Now those 80 can go over to Chicago, Adelitas, Tropical and increase supply and competition, driving down prices. Yeah, I still like to wander in HK on the weekdays. But I think I'll leave it to the guys in the leather pants and suits to fund HK business decisions and take my humble dollars to the other clubs. Frankly, it's not that HK girls are keeping my business. It's Cascadas.On the topic of Business, it seems that HK will be coming out post pandemic having the monopoly / majority over the clubs in the zona with their true plans put into play earlier than expected while the clubs were closed. The portal from chavelas is a little iffy, and does mess up the feng sheui of the space but I get it- it releases congestion from the main stage area. The garage extension however is brilliant for hK, here's why.
It may seem empty Mon. - thurs but the expansion allows HK to give capacity to Patrons at its Peak times which is Friday and Saturday nights given Most people work 9-5 Mon. -Fri. Jobs and will likely party Fri. , sat nights. Most of you have experienced these Peak nights where there is no table / seat to be found, especially on PPV fight nights, where you are walking through a sea of men, rubbing elbows with more Men than fondling ladies- this equates to lost business. Having worked with restaurants, its essential to have the capacity to seat and dine customers at peak dining times. In reality, you go to a busy restaurant during dinner time and it looks packed (prepandemic) and the thought is, they are packed all day. But the reality is the restaurant makes most of its revenue during that rush, while sitting idle most of the day, with a trickle here and there. The same concept applies with HK, the expansions was not made for the weekdays, but to capture the peak on the said days. I Do appreciate the business decision of giving 2 free beers on Mon. , Tues. Can't beat Free.
HK is no dummy to business, and to be good at it, you need to have foresight. I think the main reason for the expansion is for 2026.2026 is the year of the first ever 3 nation cross border world cup, Mexico, Canada and USA will host games. What better way for them to catch the Peak market and accommodate more guests than any other club with the garage expansion. The border has made expansions as well, revamping Ped East. And the same with Cascadas expanding upwards.
We ve tried to spend our money at other clubs, but always end up coming back to HK. Music, the vibe, the ladies. The general perspective from the US of A first timer is that HK is way more affordable than Downtown Sd and Vegas. HK knows this and they openly welcome NOoB dollars. Its a world known club and when borders restrictions ease, more Noobs will come, once a month, maybe 2 on a Fri. Or sat. For regulars like us, we re better off going happy hours, aka Mon. - Thur. And might eventually find a chica who hasn't gone up all night, right around 2 to 3 am and shoot her an offer she can't refuse. Most will take it and its worked for me more times than not.
Captain Solo
05-31-21, 17:02
LABorn.
Pedestrian crossing back on Saturday no waiting? What time did you cross back?
This week Friday and Sunday nights about 10 PM, I dropped the 2 noobs without Sentri near PedEast gate. There was no waiting line; they walked across without delay.
5 Sentri lanes had only 5 or 6 cars ahead of us; I crossed within 10 minutes. Meanwhile about 8 ready and regular lanes were open but the car line stretched back to O'Campo, 6 to 8 hours wait is about right.
A noob drove his mom back a Sunday evening this month, arriving at the Ready line at 7 PM. He had to wait a full 12 hours, sleeping in the car, did not clear the border until 7 AM the next morning. Life must be very hard for people who have to drive across for jobs, schools, families.
Made a visit Sunday afternoon to night. Most of the girls in HK were 7's. A few chunky oinkers. A few hotties. There were enough people to warrant opening of the full 2nd floor. But they didn't and it got pretty crowded in HK. Seems like they didn't know it was the Memorial Day weekend and they failed to bring more chicas. After a while it got boring, and I spent some time over at Adelitas where I thought they had better looking chicas. But the problem with Adelitas is that they don't know how to entertain like HK. Despite have a lot of quality chicas, they usually do not have more than a single dancer performing. So there are goods and bad all over, and I had to remind myself to manage my expectations in order to enjoy myself. Hey, at least I wasn't stuck in in the States at some stupid BBQ debating the use of coal over gas, and balance taste over carcinogen.
Carcinogen.
The garage extension however is brilliant for hK.
For regulars like us, we re better off going happy hours, aka Mon. - Thur. And might eventually find a chica who hasn't gone up all night, right around 2 to 3 am and shoot her an offer she can't refuse. Most will take it and its worked for me more times than not.What / where / when is the garage extension?
Great advice to make a low offer to a chica who has not gone up all evening.
Captain Solo
05-31-21, 19:36
Jackie,
Nothing in life is better than the primal pleasures of being on top of hot, soft, smooth, pretty chicas, sucking tongues, squeezing boobs, grinding crotches, pumping wet kitties.
ADumbRookie
05-31-21, 20:10
I've been reading back through the thread and some older posts mention only the first floor or first two floors being open on Mondays / Tuesdays. Is that still the case?
I'm trying to determine the best days to go for two nights. Slow days should mean that the girls are thirstier and I have time to get to know girls with fichas. But I'd also like to get the full experience of having the entire club to explore. And of course I still want to find good looking women (my preference is petite chicks, spinner types).
Should I bite the bullet and go on Fri / Sat? Or are Sunday / Mon / Tue good options?
Captain Solo
05-31-21, 21:11
MarksOfmagic,
Man, you are doing good work.
But how would you know which girls had not fucked any night?
Did you install dick counters in all 465 of Clam's HK pussies?
For regulars like us, we re better off going happy hours, aka Mon. - Thur. And might eventually find a chica who hasn't gone up all night, right around 2 to 3 am and shoot her an offer she can't refuse. Most will take it and its worked for me more times than not.
Captain Solo
05-31-21, 23:29
ARookie,
Don't put yourself down, I would never call anyone dumb. Much less myself. HK would close off floors and sections, open them up gradually as clients population increases. Monday and Tuesday nights are usually slow, so third floor and the Hangar Annex are usually closed off.
The best selection of hot girls would be on Friday and Saturday nights after 6 when guys get their pay checks, loaded with cash, go to the bars to unwind with friends, and the largest number of hottest chicas would show up to work, anxious to entertain them. Work, play, friends, flirt, fun, food, drinks, sensual pleasures, good money, feeling desirable ect are all mixed in the bars for bar girls. Lots of them are addicted to this fast and fun lifestyle.
Looks like you are in the first visit from out of state, and probably would not return to Tijuana for a few months, you don't want to miss out on meeting the best selection of hottest girls and the fun, sexy energetic vibes of a full-blown Mexican bar party, with sweet, sexy girls playing, partying, flirting with guys, artsy shows, fashion parades, the hottest strippers, free tequila shots on stage with girls wrapping their legs around your head, thrusting their moist crotches in your face hehe.
Most new or semipro girls would start their work in HK on weekends. I have met some of the freshest, prettiest, sweetest new girls, some speak English fluently, still trying to get used to the party life and the seduction games, who melted my heart. Quite a few are noobs or semi pros trying to make some quick money in a pinch You should walk around and hang out near the main stage to check out girls. If you like any girls in that large selection, you should immediately invite her to a quiet spot, the Hangar Annex usually has plenty of empty booths and is cooler due to the high ceiling. Try to talk to her and make her feel loved; you will have the hottest sessions and the sexiest memories. If you don't act quickly the hottest ones would be taken quickly, some would go home and never come back, or come back sporadically, hard to keep track.
With buying fichas and sessions, the girls usually allow pictures. I have taken pictures for my wingmen and their girls in HK, Tropical and Chicago, all is fine if the girls don't object. Most encourage pics. Of course most girls allow pics in hotel rooms, some even allow videos of sessions, very erotic. Also ask the girls for the tel # for future communication. Almost all would give their tels.
If you buy HK's VIP card, $60 for 3 months, you can save $56 a room on Monday and Tuesday, total $112, but you will not meet half of the hottest girls. Is that saving worth your time and effort travelling to Tijuana?
Guys who go to Tijuana every week for years, met a lot of girls, have lots of contacts, may justify skipping the busiest nights for some savings, but for guys who only go once or twice a year, the best parties with the hottest girls and the most funs are on Friday and Sat nights. The pros way outweigh the cons in this trade off study.
No. I don't work for HK or take any profit from Tijuana, only want to help the bros have the funniest and sexiest times. Alberto Quinto works for HK as VIP concierge who can explain or arrange anything you need. Call or email him. I met some of the nicest guys, best friends and have the most funs with mongers going to Tijuana.
Babe Magnet
06-01-21, 02:38
She quoted me 100 and not willing to come down. She said in fact 100 was the "bargain" price because regular price is 120. I scoffed at that and sent her on her way.Good for you, mijo. The only way to thwart their little cartel is to not play their game.
Saw her standing around all night not getting any clients.Good. Hope she starves.
Babe Magnet
06-01-21, 04:10
I've been reading back through the thread and some older posts mention only the first floor or first two floors being open on Mondays / Tuesdays. Is that still the case?Yes. They open the garage annex on Thursday night, but the upper floors are closed during the week.
And of course I still want to find good looking women (my preference is petite chicks, spinner types).
If you're into spinner types (especially titless ones), you'll be in heaven anytime you go to HK. That seems to be all that's there nowadays.
MarksOfMagic
06-01-21, 05:01
MarksOfmagic,
Man, you are doing good work.
But how would you know which girls had not fucked any night?
Did you install dick counters in all 465 of Clam's HK pussies?
For regulars like us, we re better off going happy hours, aka Mon. - Thur. And might eventually find a chica who hasn't gone up all night, right around 2 to 3 am and shoot her an offer she can't refuse. Most will take it and its worked for me more times than not.Captain,
Here's a couple of my strategies to find my 1 chica to end the night with and willing to submit to my fair offer.
I usually arrive 7/8 pm. Perfect time for when Varsity / Pro level night shift make their way down stairs and now filter into chavelas as a staging. My understanding is that girls have to post at chavelas for 1 HR. The max girls seem to go straight to HKs floor. This is the time I enjoy the most as HK puts on high energy trance like music. I'm in tunnel vision at this time checking out every single one of the chicas, mind and eye faking each one I see. By 9/10 most girls have already showed up for their shift and I get a good sample size of whos who.
Then I sit back, drink and observe (enjoy the view) until its time. Strategic places to sit are seats with views of the main entrance / exit, the one facing tropical, to see which ladies leave to go to Cascadas and return 15 minutes, 45 minutes later. Sometimes not return at all. Most take that exit, but Give or take a couple girls that go the back way but ill note that its not a perfect strategy to tell whose really gone up or not. Especially with the portal to chavelas adding 2 more exits.
Most girls will have their spot to post, others walk around, so you will see repeated faces. I'm constantly scanning checking out chicas, looking at their assets, giving propinas when I get up to use the bathroom or take the occasional walk to stretch out.
By 1/2/3 am I've been there a couple hours, I have a clearer picture of most chichas. At this point, girls tend to express their energy a lot more. There's the sad one, who looks sad cause no ones taking her up or buying her drinks. She has not gone up (SHNGU) Then there's the bitchy one, mad cause no one wants to pay her 100, everyones offering her 80- and she spent 3 hours sitting with a guy who bought her 5 drinks to only leave with his friends and not take her up. And she was sitting next to our table. SHNGU) Then there's the girl sitting at the bar on a stool or even sitting in a booth alone, on her cell phone acting like she does not want to be there. SHNGU. So many examples of body languages and energies girls give off to show you nonverbally SHNGU and girls tend to express these emotions highly after a couple hours of work. And not to forget, the girls coming down the locker room stairway have not gone up that night. Obvious, how can one tell? They have a fresh energy, vs the tired look of the afternoon girls. They are less likely to budge on any offers initially- but they are fresh. 1/2/3 am for me is the best time find my fresh lady of the night willing to accept my offer.
On a side note for the Noob, girls tend to change outfits, and hair, and event their scent. Its not a new chick, its the same girl buddy, wearing a different sexy dress or lingerie. They may go through multiple outfit changes a night. Changing after she just got banged out or after some time on the floor. So I look for body language and energy of the ladies.
But hey, if I want a specific one, I don't care if she's entering from the exit after finishing up a session. She's been ran through already in her career. My point initially was how to find the girl that will take your best offer because SHNGU all night. It just makes business sense to take my offer at that point.
ADumbRookie
06-01-21, 05:37
Solo,
All right you've convinced me that Friday / Sat will be the days. I'm an extremely short and cheap flight from San Diego so it's not too much a bother to go regularly. If it's the experience I'm hoping for I'd probably start going to Tijuana once every three or four months rather than visiting local strip clubs or escorts every month or two.
LABorn.
Pedestrian crossing back on Saturday no waiting? What time did you cross back?.No pedestrian wait around midnight Saturday night.
ADumbRookie
06-01-21, 16:20
If you're into spinner types (especially titless ones), you'll be in heaven anytime you go to HK. That seems to be all that's there nowadays.A tiny woman with a pretty face is all I need! If there's plenty of them earlier in the week then maybe it doesn't matter as much when I go. Not as interested in chicks with huge assets (especially fake. Though I've been known to make exceptions).
Captain Solo
06-01-21, 17:49
MarksOf Magic,
I salute you for having lots of patience and time to work your games with chicas methodically. It's very nice to find those nice, fresh, pretty girls, full of fun and sexual energy to ravish in bed.
The problem is, if I wait until 2, 3 in the morning, the hottest girls would have been taken upstairs and pumped a couple times. They would not be too anxious to get rammed by another dick. Also sitting around drinking all night usually produces Whiskey dick. I would feel sleepy and want to fall in love with a nice bed over any hot chicas hehe.
My strategy is to go in HK by 6 PM and wait for the new girls to start night shift. They would have rested in bed all day, had a couple rounds of tacos and start feeling happy and horny. Feed them a drink or two, squeeze boobs and grope crotches, loosen them up into a happy, horny mood to go to the hotel. I usually have a bottle of good tequila in my night bag to party with them in the room to offer them a few more shots, squeeze and grope them some more, make them feel desirable and loved. Then we would take a warm shower together. I would soap up their crotches, toying with their clits and their pussy, sliding, rubbing my body on theirs, very sensual and arousing for both of us. When we dry up and get in bed, sex is very hot and loving.
The average cost for a HK's session is less than half of a Nuru session in SoCal massage joints with their old, lumpy, saggy, grumpy women. A noob in La Zona last week swore he would never return to HX women, escorts, apartment girls, massage parlors or spending hours chasing skanky street girls in SoCal.
Captain Solo
06-01-21, 19:18
BabeMag.
The only titless girl I know in HK is Ruth de Monterrey. All she had were a pair of dark brown pencil erasers sticking out of her flat chest. She's an angry and biitchy hard-core lesbian so she hates guys. She looks like a skinny methhead cholo, very rough and biitchy in bed, like she had big hemorrhoids in her loose kitty. Ruth should be avoided to prevent ugly fights in the room.
The other spinners all have A cups with tiny pink tits, delicious to suck on, very sexy and attractive.
The most popular spinner is Frieda, 19-20 YO, tall, skinny, long legs, flat ab, nice, clean, smoothest light skin, blue hair, pretty face with eye glasses, natural conical A cups with tiny tits. She's very quiet and gentle but exudes youthful sexy charms in bar and in bed with her sweet smile. Lots of guys like her. She would hug and squeeze me in the bar, rattling long, loving sentences in Spanish into my ears, a very fun, sweet, sexy and classy girl.
Another spinner is tiny Paola, pretty face, shiny long black hair. I used to lift her up with my left arm, kiss and suck on her natural A cups, but she recently got a pair of bolt-on see cups which you would be proud of.
Suki is a pretty spinner, pretty face, round out body with more curves and shapes with natural be cups, a very sweet and sexy girl in the bar or the bed. Krystal is taller with pretty face, beautiful body with natural A cups, smooth light skin, a very sweet and classy girl.
A number HK girls are nice, clean, sweet, beautiful and would do BBBJ and more. I posted their pics before, Lucy, Estephanie, Raquel, Rebecca, Kismas. Most are spinners but they do have itis, some very nice and sexy natural boobs. There are may girls with all different sizes, shapes, tits sizes, butts sizes, skin colors and personalities. Nobody ever walked into HK and failed to raise a big erection.
And of course I still want to find good looking women (my preference is petite chicks, spinner types).
If you're into spinner types (especially titless ones), you'll be in heaven anytime you go to HK. That seems to be all that's there nowadays.
MemoeNasty
06-02-21, 03:38
BabeMag.
The only titless girl I know in HK is Ruth de Monterrey. All she had were a pair of dark brown pencil erasers sticking out of her flat chest. She's an angry and biitchy hard-core lesbian so she hates guys. She looks like a skinny methhead cholo, very rough and biitchy in bed, like she had big hemorrhoids in her loose kitty. Ruth should be avoided to prevent ugly fights in the room.
The other spinners all have A cups with tiny pink tits, delicious to suck on, very sexy and attractive.
The most popular spinner is Frieda, 19-20 YO, tall, skinny, long legs, flat ab, nice, clean, smoothest light skin, blue hair, pretty face with eye glasses, natural conical A cups with tiny tits. She's very quiet and gentle but exudes youthful sexy charms in bar and in bed with her sweet smile. Lots of guys like her. She would hug and squeeze me in the bar, rattling long, loving sentences in Spanish into my ears, a very fun, sweet, sexy and classy girl.
Another spinner is tiny Paola, pretty face, shiny long black hair. I used to lift her up with my left arm, kiss and suck on her natural A cups, but she recently got a pair of bolt-on see cups which you would be proud of.
Suki is a pretty spinner, pretty face, round out body with more curves and shapes with natural be cups, a very sweet and sexy girl in the bar or the bed. Krystal is taller with pretty face, beautiful body with natural A cups, smooth light skin, a very sweet and classy girl.
A number HK girls are nice, clean, sweet, beautiful and would do BBBJ and more. I posted their pics before, Lucy, Estephanie, Raquel, Rebecca, Kismas. Most are spinners but they do have itis, some very nice and sexy natural boobs. There are may girls with all different sizes, shapes, tits sizes, butts sizes, skin colors and personalities. Nobody ever walked into HK and failed to raise a big erection.
And of course I still want to find good looking women (my preference is petite chicks, spinner types).
If you're into spinner types (especially titless ones), you'll be in heaven anytime you go to HK. That seems to be all that's there nowadays.Look at what these poor chicas have to deal with nowadays with smartphones and nonstop internet. They can't even get out of the shower or get dressed without mongers taking their pic. Trying to protect their identity by putting up their hands. Moe.
Enriquem1995
06-02-21, 04:05
I've been to HK a lot lately considering bars are not fully open in L. A. I haven't found it very good but I've managed to snag a good one at the very end. The natural young beauties.
Anybody know what the daytime rates are? I stayed overnight and for the life of me I don't know why I didn't ask the rate in the afternoon. It's pretty dead but there are some nice girls still.
AnEaglesFan
06-02-21, 05:13
I've been to Tijuana about half a dozen trips prior to COVID over the past 3-4 years. Being from the East Coast it's hard to make an excuse to go often. Took my first trip out to SD and Tijuana this week. Sunday was pretty busy at all the usual haunts on the block with Monday being a holiday. Ended up at Chicago that night. Went back Monday and it was the normal Sunday / Monday slowness. HK was still fairly busy but Chicago and especially Adelita's had a huge surplus of chica's to guys. Too dead for my tastes so stuck to HK. Met a young spinner in a school girl skirt that I thoroughly enjoyed. Only challenge was she spoke no English at all and my Spanish is limited to when I can actually hear and piece it together slowly.
One question. What's the deal with HK's short time rooms now? Damn near double the price but you get a useless beer and cocktail for the lady? Room was nicer but damn, I'd almost prefer to just stick to Chicago and Adelita's with all this BS.
Anyway this being my first post-Covid trip my membership here has expired. Working to resolve that. Doing the Agency thing Wed-Fri but if anyone's going to be around Saturday / Sunday night and wants to meetup let me know once I get PM's active.
Captain Solo
06-02-21, 07:20
She deleted the good pics and let me keep those.
LuvMexicanas
06-02-21, 07:25
Look at what these poor chicas have to deal with nowadays with smartphones and nonstop internet. They can't even get out of the shower or get dressed without mongers taking their pic. Trying to protect their identity by putting up their hands. Moe.Totally agree. Some guys are just crass and show no respect sneaking photos or taking photos of a chica who clearly doesn't consent to it, and then posting those over and over. Unless the chica consents, I don't take photos and every photo of a chica I've ever posted has been completely voluntary with clear intent because they strike a pose.
Solo,
All right you've convinced me that Friday / Sat will be the days. I'm an extremely short and cheap flight from San Diego so it's not too much a bother to go regularly. If it's the experience I'm hoping for I'd probably start going to Tijuana once every three or four months rather than visiting local strip clubs or escorts every month or two.That's exactly what I do.
I fly to San Diego every 3-4 months and I say Wed-Sat or Thu-Sun. More often Wed-Sat. Always 3 nights to make it worth the hassle.
I also take bus 992 from airport to downtown and then the trolley to the border.
Bus 992 has a nice scenic route to downtown, and on the way back I walk to the boats and take bus 992 to airport from across the Martime museum (very pleasant area to hang around at).
Trolley is reasonably quick and very predictable and is part of the overall travel experience for me. Uber is much more expensive and less predictable since freeways / streets can occasionally get clogged.
Baxter Slade
06-02-21, 16:02
Thanks for the report AnEaglesFan. Last I heard the useless drinks are just an option they try to sell you as a package with the room. Next time just decline.
Captain Solo
06-02-21, 17:01
Rambo made some very good and practical suggestions.
I would take the bus from the airport to the America Plaza station and go straight to the border. The trolley is nice, clean, safe and fast. You don't need pay some low lifes $60 to drive you across.
You can also use it to visit most recreation spots in San Diego. SD's weather is cool and dry. The waterfront and gas lamp quarter have many interesting places to visit and some very good restaurants. On weekend the street Farmer Market in Little Italy is lively and colorful.
San Diego and Tijuana combined have just about all the funs and recreations anyone ever want.
The Trolley is nice the only problem is that the last leaves San Ysidro around 12:45 am. The other issue is that the Trolley from America's plaza to Old Town only runs till around 10 pm I believe. They really need to have later hours or 24/7 ideally.
That's exactly what I do.
I fly to San Diego every 3-4 months and I say Wed-Sat or Thu-Sun. More often Wed-Sat. Always 3 nights to make it worth the hassle.
I also take bus 992 from airport to downtown and then the trolley to the border.
Bus 992 has a nice scenic route to downtown, and on the way back I walk to the boats and take bus 992 to airport from across the Martime museum (very pleasant area to hang around at).
Trolley is reasonably quick and very predictable and is part of the overall travel experience for me. Uber is much more expensive and less predictable since freeways / streets can occasionally get clogged.
Anyone know if Hong Kong will be showing the Mayweather fight this Sunday?
Captain Solo
06-03-21, 02:09
I am pretty sure Hong Kong would have it on their giant screen TV and many smaller monitors. Tropical would very likely has it too.
Would be very nice to sit in the middle of the bar, caressed and loved by a hundred hot, luscious, beautiful, flirtsy girls, drinking cold beers, watching the fight with your friends.
Have to get in Hong Kong by 4 or 5 and order a bottle to seize good tables. Any bro want to meet and split a bottle of tequila or something, let me know.
Mayweather vs. Paul fight.
Date: June 6.
Location: Hard Rock Stadium -- Miami Gardens, Florida.
Start time: 8 pm ET.
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/floyd-mayweather-vs-logan-paul-three-biggest-storylines-to-follow-ahead-of-the-showtime-ppv-event/
Captain Solo
06-03-21, 02:24
In HK, Cesia is probably the tiniest girl, about 5', 80 lbs, with a pretty freckled face.
Next tiniest is Paola, about 5'2, 90 Lbs, with a pretty face.
Belen is 5', 80 Lbs but her face is not very pretty, and she is a ruthless shark.
The alley has far more tiny girls, like around 5' 90 Lbs, some are very nice, pretty and personable.
But don't leave out taller girls. Most are sweet and gentle. Melanie in this pic, usually hangs out near HK's back door with Wendy / Anahi. She's a tall girl, about 5'8 with heels, 110 Lbs, nice, clean, pleasant, with beautiful natural, proportional body, smooth tan skin, pretty face with a ready smile, wavy brown hair. She speaks with a whiny voice and always giggles like a little girl hehe.
Rambo made some very good and practical suggestions.
I would take the bus from the airport to the America Plaza station and go straight to the border. The trolley is nice, clean, safe and fast. You don't need pay some low lifes $60 to drive you across.
You can also use it to visit most recreation spots in San Diego. SD's weather is cool and dry. The waterfront and gas lamp quarter have many interesting places to visit and some very good restaurants. On weekend the street Farmer Market in Little Italy is lively and colorful.
San Diego and Tijuana combined have just about all the funs and recreations anyone ever want.Yeah gaslamp area of San Diego should not be passed up if you have the time. Guys, under 30, if they start in gaslamp in hostel may end up getting free sex and never make it to Tijuana. Worst case scenario taco Tuesday all you can eat tacos at 6 pm, at American junkie. For 6 bucks. Excellent TVs for sports. Buds by Petco park also excellent and cheap. By 8 PM walk to trolley, and be In Hong Kong in 45 minutes. I've met a few gringos at taco Tuesday in gaslamp that were headed to hk afterward. The hostels are around 28 bucks and gives you a locker to leave your stuff in if you don't want it in Mexico. And the hostels on the beach ate all out sex romps.
Babe Magnet
06-03-21, 08:32
The only titless girl I know in HK is Ruth de Monterrey. All she had were a pair of dark brown pencil erasers sticking out of her flat chest. She's an angry and biitchy hard-core lesbian so she hates guys. She looks like a skinny methhead cholo, very rough and biitchy in bed, like she had big hemorrhoids in her loose kitty. Ruth should be avoided to prevent ugly fights in the room.Thanks for the heads-up. If I see her I'll try to resist.
The other spinners all have A cups with tiny pink tits, delicious to suck on, very sexy and attractive.Captain, you and I are on totally different pages when it comes to chicas. To me, anything smaller than a C cup is titless. C cups are marginally acceptable. DD++, muy bueno. I like them tall and curvy. I just can't handle those little spinners like you do, Captain--they just don't fit. Just not my thang, bro.
ADumbRookie
06-05-21, 21:54
Anyone ever stay in the penthouse suite? The one for $330. With the VIP card it's $100 a night for Monday / Tuesday. That's not really a lot of money to me so just checking if any of you have stayed in them and what you thought. Do they tend to be on higher floors, further from the noise of the club?
DramaFree11
06-06-21, 00:54
Anyone ever stay in the penthouse suite? The one for $330. With the VIP card it's $100 a night for Monday / Tuesday. That's not really a lot of money to me so just checking if any of you have stayed in them and what you thought. Do they tend to be on higher floors, further from the noise of the club?Yes, my buddy and I did for my birthday. A lot of fun, not sure it is worth the money, but real cool experience.
AmericanPi
06-06-21, 03:30
Anyone know what Hong Kong does for the big pay per view fights like Mayweather tomorrow? I'll be there and I'm nit sure if you need to make reservations or if bars like Hong Kong even carry major PPV fights.
Anyone ever stay in the penthouse suite? The one for $330. With the VIP card it's $100 a night for Monday / Tuesday. That's not really a lot of money to me so just checking if any of you have stayed in them and what you thought. Do they tend to be on higher floors, further from the noise of the club?I've been several times on Tuesday. Room. Double beds $ 80 (with my VIP card $ 24) 4th floor very quiet no music heard. I do not spend the night, but check in early afternoon and check out before midnight, because in the morning the queue in the Ped east is crazy.
Rambo made some very good and practical suggestions.
I would take the bus from the airport to the America Plaza station and go straight to the border. The trolley is nice, clean, safe and fast. You don't need pay some low lifes $60 to drive you across.
You can also use it to visit most recreation spots in San Diego. SD's weather is cool and dry. The waterfront and gas lamp quarter have many interesting places to visit and some very good restaurants. On weekend the street Farmer Market in Little Italy is lively and colorful.
San Diego and Tijuana combined have just about all the funs and recreations anyone ever want.For the tourist, the green trolley line is the best. It has the following stops: Gaslamp Quarter, Convention Center, Seaport Village, America Plaza / Santa Fe Depot, Little Italy, Old Town. I do not recommend taking a car because there is a lot of traffic in the downtown area, there is no parking space or the parking lot is very expensive. Here is the trolley link https://www.sdmts.com/schedules-real-time-maps-and-routes/trolley.
For the tourist, the green trolley line is the best. It has the following stops: Gaslamp Quarter, Convention Center, Seaport Village, America Plaza / Santa Fe Depot, Little Italy, Old Town. I do not recommend taking a car because there is a lot of traffic in the downtown area, there is no parking space or the parking lot is very expensive. Here is the trolley link https://www.sdmts.com/schedules-real-time-maps-and-routes/trolley.This website reporting the waiting time at the border does not seem to work:
https://bwt.cbp.gov/details/09250407/PED
https://bwt.cbp.gov/details/09250407/PED
I just saw: "Current Wait: Lanes Closed". No wonder there is no waiting time.
Captain Solo
06-06-21, 08:54
StRobert.
Yep. I agree the trolley green line is a very good way to visit these beautiful spots.
It also stops at Balboa park and UC San Diego I think, and of course the most famous San Ysidro border crossing.
Captain Solo
06-06-21, 17:26
If CBP's Border Wait Time shows zeros, it means CBP may be too busy to update wait time. There may still be a long line waiting.
San Ysidro. PedWest. (Pedestrian).
TerOnlyOnce
06-06-21, 19:56
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.
Baxter Slade
06-07-21, 00:20
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.Girls that asked to be paid upfront is a bad sign. I know some who will consider it a deal breaker and walk out. I have found the best tactic to use during negotiations is a lower offer with the promise of a nice tip if service is good. But once she has all the money in her possession she has no motivation to perform.
TerOnlyOnce
06-07-21, 00:48
Girls that asked to be paid upfront is a bad sign. I know some who will consider it a deal breaker and walk out. I have found the best tactic to use during negotiations is a lower offer with the promise of a nice tip if service is good. But once she has all the money in her possession she has no motivation to perform.How do you get around paying up front though? If you say no they can just keep asking or even walk out. Sounds like a waste of time and kinda burns you from seeing that girl again.
I've always paid up front and it's not that big of a deal. Every single girl asks to be paid up front.
The one puta with the Michael kors bag was awful, but the last 4 girls I saw were satisfactory. Not the greatest, not even "good", but decent to the point I could enjoy myself. I paid all of them upfront.
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.The girls work in the bar for fichas. What you do upstairs is between you and the girl. None of the girls are required to do anything sexual with you or act a certain way when having sex. That's why many of us like to sit and buy drinks to get a feel for how it will be upstairs. The less Spanish you know and naive you seem to be will let the girls know what they can get away with. Just let it go. We have all had this happen.
I was staying on the 7th floor a few months back and was woken up by a guy getting in trouble with management on not paying a girl. Something about $300 and at first he was trying to act tuff and that he had spent like 3 k in the place and I couldn't hear what the staff was telling him but he started talking about how he was sorry and that he was really a nice guy. So most of the time I think staff will believe the girls so not much else you can do.
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.You should of told management immediately. I do not think they would give you her money or any money but from what I read here likely a free room next time and more importantly like you said, she will ruin business and reputation of the prestige HK which doesn't need her and her lousy service. You also may not have had enough Tijuana sex, to realize a lot of woman offer crap service. I've had girls making out with me, being temporarily upset I don't do BBFS, automatic BBBJ, grinding, licking all over. And then I've had a third, who are all, oh I don't do BBBJ, I don't kiss, don't lick my nipples baby, are you finished yet papi?
If a girl does not live up to her promise when you start the best thing to do is to simply leave the hotel room. Believe me a bad encounter with a girl will not get better. You are much better to keep on searching for another girl.
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.
There is a saying in Mexico that covers this situation of prepaying for anything: Spanish: El Músico Pagado Toca Mal Son.
Literal Meaning: A musician who has been paid plays a bad son (genre of music).
Meaning: People paid in advance rarely do a good job.
http://www.mexicoguru.com/mexican-slang-meaning.php?date=131006
You may want to remember this "dicho" or saying and repeat it over and over if you are asked to prepay for anything in Mexico.
If they do not agree, do as Hargow advises and walk out. They are planning to short you or cheat you in some way.
Girls that asked to be paid upfront is a bad sign. I know some who will consider it a deal breaker and walk out. I have found the best tactic to use during negotiations is a lower offer with the promise of a nice tip if service is good. But once she has all the money in her possession she has no motivation to perform.
AmorPorFavor
06-07-21, 04:14
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.You should complain to the guys at the reception desk. One time my wingman had a bad one and he left a note about it on their desk and then walked away. Later in the night I was walking by the desk and the guys started asking me where's your friend we want to talk to him about the girl so I found him and we went back to the desk. They seemed very concerned and wanted to know who she was and what happened. They could have just blown it off so maybe they do something to her.
TerOnlyOnce
06-07-21, 05:14
If a girl does not live up to her promise when you start the best thing to do is to simply leave the hotel room. Believe me a bad encounter with a girl will not get better. You are much better to keep on searching for another girl.Yeah. I learned the importance of screening. Do not just ask to take a girl arriba right away. I went on a Sunday night and saw one girl that looked pretty hot. I started talking with her and then put a dollar on her booty. Then a waiter came up and asked if we wanted a drink, I said sure. So we got a table. From the moment I walked up to the girl she was asking me to take her to the room. Then we sat down and she kept asking me to take her to the room the whole time LOL. She spent like 5 minutes with me. The drink came, she drank it for like 3 minutes, didn't even finish it. Left like half of it and it was a water. It was so funny. The waiter took 5 minutes to take my order, my money, give the girl a drink and get me my change. Literally 30 seconds after all of that the girl just puts the drink down and walks away loolol.
It was so sad. If she just stayed quietly for like 10 minutes, I would have probably just negotiated to take her upstairs LOL. She couldn't wait tho LOL. So I just moved on from that. Then I saw some other hotties and I tried talking to them, but they blew me off like a snobby white girl would blow me off at the club in the united states LOL. So the whole time I'm just laughing cause this is hilarious.
A little bit later I approach a taller chick in a nice blue dress and fat ass. I chatted and negotiated, then brought her to the room. I ended paying up front but it was not bad service. She quoted $100 I said $80, then she pushed for $90 and I just said okay. She said the time is for 30 minutes. I didn't actually time the session but I would say actual fucking and sucking was about 15 minutes. I could start timing but meh, I feel that it will kill the mood and not make me look good. Maybe one day I'll decide to whip out the timer once we get into my room LOL. But anyway, this session was satisfying I would say. There was some struggles at the beginning and middle but it ended fine.
But yeah I agree, once you pay up front and you have a bad session, sometimes it's best to just leave the room or kick her out if you booked one for the night. Not even worth the time. Just chalk it up as a loss, it will happen when you see new girls. This is why I would much prefer repeating and finding regulars. Basically screen out all the rotten putas and only see the good ones and you'll never have a problem again.
TerOnlyOnce
06-07-21, 05:18
You should complain to the guys at the reception desk. One time my wingman had a bad one and he left a note about it on their desk and then walked away. Later in the night I was walking by the desk and the guys started asking me where's your friend we want to talk to him about the girl so I found him and we went back to the desk. They seemed very concerned and wanted to know who she was and what happened. They could have just blown it off so maybe they do something to her.Yeah. Maybe I could do that next time. It is certainly intimidating. Remember, if you are from the united states, then we are just foreigners here. Last thing I want is to convey that I am angry or upset to the staff at hotel Cascadas. Really don't want any problems and I don't speak much Spanish.
TerOnlyOnce
06-07-21, 07:36
If you have a bad session with a girl she can and will tell other girls working so keep that in mind. I recently had a terrible session with some big tits and big ass chick. She only allowed specific positions and wanted $100 but settled for $80, was a huge puta in the room. A little while later, like 1 hour, I went and saw a different girl. We drank for a bit and chatted them I brought her up to the room. She insisted on $100.
Again I had to pay up front. Well, she actually asked up front so I just gave. I just put the money on the table and left it there. Then she went and grabbed it. Whatever. Maybe one day I'll try to push for paying after and see what happens.
But anyway, I banged her and then while cleaning up she asked me if I had a problem with another girl earlier. Sure enough, it was that terrible girl from earlier. I said yeah and asked how she knew. She said the girl told her. So it looks like it's common for these chicks to run their mouth about you. I told the chick I was going to tell management. So she dodged and hid cause she didn't want me to see her later on.
HK is so wild. These girls are pushing for $100 and sometimes if you bring them down to $80 they behave like such massive snobs that you don't even get a good session. They also want you to pay up front which is annoying.
Some of these girls are awful tbh. Annoying, ungrateful. Especially the hotter ones. The ones with the fat asses and huge tits. Whatever happened to just showing up and getting what you want. Now it's like a god damn chore due to maneuvering their annoying behavior.
One thing to keep in mind is that it's very easy to rack up your "blacklist" of girls. I already have a handful of girls on it. I've only seen them once but I guarantee I will never see them ever again because that one time was awful. These girls are so dumb.
TerOnlyOnce
06-07-21, 18:34
I tried to tell the front reception desk that the last girl I had was no good and I didn't like it. I said she was rude. Unfortunately they didn't do anything at the reception. Didn't bother to check her name or anything. Just asked if I wanted another girl, that's it.
Yeah, foolish of me to think they would actually care about service in a place like Mexico. Some of these girls just make me so bitter, it's terrible.
AmorPorFavor
06-07-21, 18:44
Yeah. Maybe I could do that next time. It is certainly intimidating. Remember, if you are from the united states, then we are just foreigners here. Last thing I want is to convey that I am angry or upset to the staff at hotel Cascadas. Really don't want any problems and I don't speak much Spanish.The guys at the front desk speak perfect English. They are running a business and want happy, repeat customers most of whom are from the US. I would bet that if a mala chica gets a lot of complaints they do something about it.
Yeah. I learned the importance of screening. Do not just ask to take a girl arriba right away. I went on a Sunday night and saw one girl that looked pretty hot. I started talking with her and then put a dollar on her booty. Then a waiter came up and asked if we wanted a drink, I said sure. So we got a table. From the moment I walked up to the girl she was asking me to take her to the room. Then we sat down and she kept asking me to take her to the room the whole time LOL. She spent like 5 minutes with me. The drink came, she drank it for like 3 minutes, didn't even finish it. Left like half of it and it was a water. It was so funny. The waiter took 5 minutes to take my order, my money, give the girl a drink and get me my change. Literally 30 seconds after all of that the girl just puts the drink down and walks away loolol.
It was so sad. If she just stayed quietly for like 10 minutes, I would have probably just negotiated to take her upstairs LOL. She couldn't wait tho LOL. So I just moved on from that. Then I saw some other hotties and I tried talking to them, but they blew me off like a snobby white girl would blow me off at the club in the united states LOL. So the whole time I'm just laughing cause this is hilarious..I've found that my best mileage is with 7 and 8's. The 9's & 10's only want quick emotionless arribas, no connection or making out. It's the next level down below super hot and above average where I spend all my time. I'm much happier getting down and dirty and full of GFE with a 7 than putting up with bare minimum from a 9 or 10. If all she wants is arriba with no time drinking that's the biggest red flag to leave her behind. I also prioritize facial beauty above body.
It's the HK bar. Shitty service is the norm. It is what it is. Once in a blue moon, you get good service but it's the exception rather than the rule. Yes, I know. Some fool will compare it to Vegas or New York City. If people wants to have a good time at HK, it's a good idea to adjust your expectations.
Yeah. Maybe I could do that next time. It is certainly intimidating. Remember, if you are from the united states, then we are just foreigners here. Last thing I want is to convey that I am angry or upset to the staff at hotel Cascadas. Really don't want any problems and I don't speak much Spanish.Another thing to keep in mind is Latin culture seems to be different in that the complainer is seen as the asshole moreso than the person you're making the complaint against. Yea it seems ass backwards but that's just how it is some times.
Especially keep that in mind if you visit regularly and become known to the staff. [Deleted by Admin]
I'll give you one hint of advice. Hang around the reception lobby of Cascadas for a few minutes and listen to the hotel staff when they talk to chicas on their way to the room with a client or on their way back down to the club with a client. The hotel guys and the chicas talk in Spanish to each other and most of the time they're talking pure shit about the client right in front of his face, literally. A chica might be in the lobby saying to the hotel guy "yea I'm about to milk this little tiny dick motherfucker for as much money as I can", and the hotel guys will laugh and make disrespectful comments about the customer in Spanish right in front of his face. Always keep in mind the HK staff and hotel Cascadas staff do not give one single fuck about you other than to extract as much money from you as quickly as possible.
Captain Solo
06-07-21, 23:03
Sat and drink with a couple girls in HK and Chavelas.
Mitzy was nice, clean, beautiful, tall, shapely, started DFKing with my hand under her panties quickly. She was hot in bed, BBBJ and BBFS but I did not pop inside her hehe. She was also posing for pics.
Kismas was also DFKing at the table with the same hand in the panties routine. She's a pretty girl with beautiful curly blonde hair from MTY, always smiling sweetly, also very accommodative in bed but no BB anything.
So test them out with the fichas.
Another thing to keep in mind is Latin culture seems to be different in that the complainer is seen as the asshole moreso than the person you're making the complaint against. Yea it seems ass backwards but that's just how it is some times.Yes HK staff definitely remembers guys who piss them off. In my case I pissed them off using that limo back to the border giving them 2 dollar tips. I used it like 3 times in 10 days before I showed up outside at 7 am and the 3 of them just looked at me and said maybe later, and then I heard them say 2 dollar tip. I left took an uber for 2 dollars. You got to remember who we are dealing with at these places. Not the happiest guys, they watch woman getting wealthy and just because they are male can't make that same money.
RikyMichaels7
06-08-21, 02:31
I just had a terrible session from some **** named Esmeralda. She has a Michael Kors bag that's light color I think pink or beige and a fake fat ass. She was terrible and very controlling the entire time. Couldn't even maintain an erection.
I'm obviously never going to see her again but how do you guys handle these awful sessions? This was Sunday afternoon so maybe I shouldn't go this early and wait until like 3 ish pm or something?
The girls ask for payment upfront, is there a way to bypass this by saying half now and then half at the end?
There was no way I could get the money back from this *****. I'm a foreigner in her country so it would've been stupid to try and force back like $40 or something. What a giant **** though, I won't forget her face and I definitely won't see her again. Any advice? Can I complain to management or something? She could be spoiling this place for new customers.You boycott the MF place, just like what happened to Chicago a few years ago. That will teach those money hungry duenos a thing or two.
YelMustang2
06-08-21, 04:43
Had a great time with several street girls in particular Carolina from Pueblo 4'9" 105 lb spinner with a great service not a clock watcher allowed multi pops. I liked her so well had her come 2 days later to my room for a 2 HR session. Massage me from head to toe and then did me anyway I wanted it. There there was Mariana she stand just outside HK and was a great lady 29 tight body and knew how to take it to the balls said she liked it slow and did not set a timer but just fucked me till I could go no more. Did have one that when she got in doggie I told enough and sent her on her way hygiene just was not here. Now to the HK girls. First was Petite Blondie spoke some English and takes bullshit the whole time about wanting to meet a gringo to have a baby and get out of MX. I just led her on with the BS and fucked her hard a true **** bang and go did not even take her back down to chat. My fav was Tina from Canada spoke good English and pulled me into the shower and we both washed with me giving those man made tits a good rub 1/2 nipples stayed erect the whole time. Great Latin ass and needed no lube in the hot tight puss. We banged away for 45 minutes before taking a break and just laying cuddled GFE style. Have her what's app as well as the other 2[Deleted by Admin]. Had a few others street lookers that were just par as I like to sport bang a variety. Had a few just get me off so I could sleep late at night for the 30 vs the 80 HK girl price. Was looking forward to spending the day with Tina as she asked to meet me the next day but m6 work schedule got in the ways so 8 guess she figured I stood her up. Just did not get back there for round 2 with her. I'll try to add attachment of the girls schedule that was left laying around. At least you can see what time your fav girl would be arriving to plan to be a fresh first bang of the night. Stay safe. See you guys there on m6 next trip. To the west coast. YM.
TerOnlyOnce
06-08-21, 05:01
I'll give you one hint of advice. Hang around the reception lobby of cascadas for a few minutes and listen to the hotel staff when they talk to chicas on their way to the room with a client or on their way back down to the club with a client. The hotel guys and the chicas talk in Spanish to each other and most of the time they're talking pure shit about the client right in front of his face, literally. A chica might be in the lobby saying to the hotel guy "yea I'm about to milk this little tiny dick motherfucker for as much money as I can", and the hotel guys will laugh and make disrespectful comments about the customer in Spanish right in front of his face. Always keep in mind the HK staff and hotel Cascadas staff do not give one single fuck about you other than to extract as much money from you as quickly as possible.Yeah I believe that. I just finished up a trip to the Zona. I stayed at hotel Cascadas for a couple nights. The trip was mediocre at best and shit at worst. In particular I had 2 sessions with complete putas. One of them was terrible, I don't even want to think about it. Demanded $100 then got butthurt that I only paid $80. Man this is exactly the stuff I want to avoid and hate dealing with in the states!
It's crazy. Like holy crap. I remember distinctly in the United States I had a similar puta that looked average. I paid for a short session and she was mad the whole time because I didn't pay more for a half hour. And she spent half the time arguing with me. Same thing happens at HK. This stupid girl spends half the time arguing with me. Man, I hate this place. Then I hear about this dumb girl again from the next girl I see. I got so mad I said I was going to tell management and complain. So the girl tells this to a few other girls after she leaves and is in the club, and she tries to hide and avoid me in the club. These terrible and awful girls. I called her a thief right to her face because that's what is she.
I'm sick of these girls. They don't care about doing their job. They just rip off guys. They want to control and be putas. Once you give them the money you can tell that's all they want. They just want your money and once you give it at the start of the session then they don't care anymore. It's all fake. They just want to control and do everything their way. They don't give a fuck about you as the customer or making sure you are happy. They just want their own way of doing everything. Rotten girls. Trying to dictate the session. I hate them. I hate these girls.
And most of all, going to HK is a waste of time. I would rather jerk off to internet porn. I go to HK and visit working girls to have fun. Now I have to worry that I may get a rotten session every once and a while? And I'm paying? Fuck that! Hong Kong can kiss my ass hole. Fuck this place. I'm done coming here. Only chance of decent service is with a 7/10 at Hong Kong that will ask $100 from you. Done with this place. I feel so sick I can't believe I actually came here a decent amount of times. And I can't believe I actually thought this place was okay at one point. These girls ruin the entire experience and really at this point I don't think I ever want to go back again. Is there anywhere I can leave a terrible review or something? I want to write it on a public site so people and HK know how much garbage they are.
I agree with the 7's and 8's. While I have had 9's & 10's have a nice drink and flirt a bit. The higher the number I have had a few snobby and poor experiences with a few. Also the moreso's have been great in my experience. Sometimes they get a bit busy and at times I have had them promise some things that didn't pan out. But overall very good experiences.
Gyyr.
I've found that my best mileage is with 7 and 8's. The 9's & 10's only want quick emotionless arribas, no connection or making out. It's the next level down below super hot and above average where I spend all my time. I'm much happier getting down and dirty and full of GFE with a 7 than putting up with bare minimum from a 9 or 10. If all she wants is arriba with no time drinking that's the biggest red flag to leave her behind. I also prioritize facial beauty above body.
Captain Solo
06-08-21, 05:42
Jinxx is all wrong.
ADumbRookie
06-08-21, 07:30
Some people are recommending only taking taxis. Others recommend not using marked taxis and sticking to Uber. HK advertises a VIP shuttle. For a group of two people (myself and a friend), which would be best for us?
Is the shuttle only for groups of 4+? Does it show up at the border at regular times or is it only reservations?
I'll give you a story that happened to me that taught me a lesson about "complaining" at Mexican strip clubs. Around 2010-2011 I was in Monterrey at a club called Woman Men's Club on Avenida Lincoln. It's a club kinda off the beaten path, a place where you would never ever ever see a gringo. I was with a local buddy and they had a drink special going 2 x 1 vampiros. A vampiro is a drink made with tequila and some red colored liqueur, they're pretty cool actually. Me and my buddy were in there partying out ordering round after round and I had an absolutely drop dead gorgeous tall 19 year old chica sitting on my lap. Well after a few rounds of vampiros I noticed I didn't feel drunk at all, like as if there was no actual tequila in the drinks. So when the mesero came back I chewed his ass out telling him what the hell is this shit dude!? I've drank like five of these vampiros and I don't even feel a buzz. Put some damn alcohol in the glass. So he comes back with another round and as I'm chugging my drink I start feeling super weird, I started seeing double vision and just felt like something seriously wasn't right. I wanted to panic and tell my buddy to do something, take me to the emergency room or something. It was a feeling I'd never felt before. But the gorgeous 19 year old was still on my lap and I forced myself to hold my shit together because I wanted to stay with her and not ruin the good time we were having. But it finally clicked in my mind that the damn mesero probably poured some Windex or some harmful chemical, who knows what the fuck they put in my drink. But for a minute I was scared I saw my whole life flash before my eyes. But I toughed it out and whatever it was I guess my liver processed that shit out and the nasty feeling finally subsided thank god. After that, no more goddamn vampiros. We started ordering bottle beers for the rest of the night and everything turned out ok.
In the US you can get away with complaining and behaving like an entitled jackazz. I've worked in bars and restaurants and our policy has always been "the customer is always right". If a customer is pissed off and being rude we always apologize and jump through hoops to satisfy him and make sure he's happy and satisfied. We go get a manager and the manager goes over and kisses the customers ass, maybe even gives him a free meal and begs for forgiveness. That is not how it works in Mexico. Please understand that. That same club just a couple weeks after I was there some cartel thugs threw freaking grenades in the entrance and killed a couple people. Hell if I would've died that night from whatever poisonous chemical they put in my drink do you think anybody from that establishment would've gave a damn? Hell no. The cops wouldn't have gave a damn. My family wouldn't have been able to sue for damages. As a patron or paying customer in the US you are somewhat important and can expect a certain level of respect and entitlement. In Mexico you ain't shit. I'm sorry but that's just how it is, you seriously ain't shit to those people. Don't ever forget that. I know I won't ever forget it.
Baxter Slade
06-08-21, 17:16
Some people are recommending only taking taxis. Others recommend not using marked taxis and sticking to Uber. HK advertises a VIP shuttle. For a group of two people (myself and a friend), which would be best for us?
Is the shuttle only for groups of 4+? Does it show up at the border at regular times or is it only reservations?No limit and no vip card needed. If you are walking in you may find it waiting right where the path takes a turn, way before you get to the street. If its not there, not worth waiting take a $5 taxi. I feel pretty silly taking that big ass limo when its only me, but they have no problem with it.
Going back to the border its the only way to go. Just approach the valet stand in front of HK and tell them you want the shuttle to the border. If its only one person no problem. Taking a taxi back to the border, this has been when the police have been conducting shakedowns of taxis returning to the border from zona norte. While the shuttle service is free be sure to tip your driver.
No limit and no vip card needed. If you are walking in you may find it waiting right where the path takes a turn, way before you get to the street. If its not there, not worth waiting take a $5 taxi. I feel pretty silly taking that big ass limo when its only me, but they have no problem with it.
Going back to the border its the only way to go. Just approach the valet stand in front of HK and tell them you want the shuttle to the border. If its only one person no problem. Taking a taxi back to the border, this has been when the police have been conducting shakedowns of taxis returning to the border from zona norte. While the shuttle service is free be sure to tip your driver.Each rider should tip the driver $1 each per one way. One of the drivers is a piece of shit. If he calls you cheap, give him the universal middle finger which means that you want to fuck his daughters in the ass. And he will love you for it. The other 3 drivers are nice and will appreciate that they are making a boat of money driving back and forth using HK assets and HK gas.
I'll give you a story that happened to me that taught me a lesson about "complaining" at Mexican strip clubs. Around 2010-2011 I was in Monterrey at a club called Woman Men's Club on Avenida Lincoln. It's a club kinda off the beaten path, a place where you would never ever ever see a gringo. I was with a local buddy and they had a drink special going 2 x 1 vampiros. A vampiro is a drink made with tequila and some red colored liqueur, they're pretty cool actually. Me and my buddy were in there partying out ordering round after round and I had an absolutely drop dead gorgeous tall 19 year old chica sitting on my lap. Well after a few rounds of vampiros I noticed I didn't feel drunk at all, like as if there was no actual tequila in the drinks. So when the mesero came back I chewed his ass out telling him what the hell is this shit dude!? I've drank like five of these vampiros and I don't even feel a buzz. Put some damn alcohol in the glass. So he comes back with another round and as I'm chugging my drink I start feeling super weird, I started seeing double vision and just felt like something seriously wasn't right. I wanted to panic and tell my buddy to do something, take me to the emergency room or something. It was a feeling I'd never felt before. But the gorgeous 19 year old was still on my lap and I forced myself to hold my shit together because I wanted to stay with her and not ruin the good time we were having. But it finally clicked in my mind that the damn mesero probably poured some Windex or some harmful chemical, who knows what the fuck they put in my drink. But for a minute I was scared I saw my whole life flash before my eyes. But I toughed it out and whatever it was I guess my liver processed that shit out and the nasty feeling finally subsided thank god. After that, no more goddamn vampiros. We started ordering bottle beers for the rest of the night and everything turned out ok..I don't think a person has to be rude to complain. If I suspected my drink was getting hosed down, I would have politely remind the manager to check the contents of his liquor to ensure that the the wholesaler was not ripping off the club with fake liquor. Of course, if things got out of control and the bartender was trying to poison me, I would put a curse on him that someone accidentally bumps him on the street and he falls in front of a moving car. I hear that for less than 10,000 pesos in a desolated border town, curses like that can occur.
How do you know of the file offers GFE or BBBJ? Do you ask prior to taking her back?
RikyMichaels7
06-08-21, 22:36
Yeah I believe that. I just finished up a trip to the Zona. I stayed at hotel Cascadas for a couple nights. The trip was mediocre at best and shit at worst. In particular I had 2 sessions with complete putas. One of them was terrible, I don't even want to think about it. Demanded $100 then got butthurt that I only paid $80. Man this is exactly the stuff I want to avoid and hate dealing with in the states!
It's crazy. Like holy crap. I remember distinctly in the United States I had a similar puta that looked average. I paid for a short session and she was mad the whole time because I didn't pay more for a half hour. And she spent half the time arguing with me. Same thing happens at HK. This stupid girl spends half the time arguing with me. Man, I hate this place. Then I hear about this dumb girl again from the next girl I see. I got so mad I said I was going to tell management and complain. So the girl tells this to a few other girls after she leaves and is in the club, and she tries to hide and avoid me in the club. These terrible and awful girls. I called her a thief right to her face because that's what is she.
I'm sick of these girls. They don't care about doing their job. They just rip off guys. They want to control and be putas. Once you give them the money you can tell that's all they want. They just want your money and once you give it at the start of the session then they don't care anymore. It's all fake. They just want to control and do everything their way. They don't give a fuck about you as the customer or making sure you are happy. They just want their own way of doing everything. Rotten girls. Trying to dictate the session. I hate them. I hate these girls..Right on the money. Totally agree with you brother! I am equally sick and tired of the place. But don't let know it alls like Babe Magnet (who probably could never get a woman without paying her in the first place) call you a whiner for expressing the truth.
TerOnlyOnce
06-08-21, 22:49
I needed a ride from the border to hotel cascades. I have the VIP card. I saw the area right next to where you get in Mexico after crossing the border at ped east. There's a banner that says Zona shuttle. After a while I see the Zona shuttle show up but it drives off on some path and parks towards the end of the path. I go up and say I would like to use the Zona shuttle. Then they point me to another direction. So I just thought "whatever" and left. About 10 minutes later I see the shuttle pull out of its parking spot and get on the main road. I thought "hey maybe it will actually stop at the shuttle stop to see if any customers need a ride". And sure enough the shuttle does not stop and just drives off. LOL. Here I am, a VIP customer, that needs a damn ride to the Zona and this shuttle right in front of me just drives off. Yeah, that's the level of service you can expect in Mexico. Welcome to this garbage place.
MemoeNasty
06-09-21, 00:23
I needed a ride from the border to hotel cascades. I have the VIP card. I saw the area right next to where you get in Mexico after crossing the border at ped east. There's a banner that says Zona shuttle. After a while I see the Zona shuttle show up but it drives off on some path and parks towards the end of the path. I go up and say I would like to use the Zona shuttle. Then they point me to another direction. So I just thought "whatever" and left. About 10 minutes later I see the shuttle pull out of its parking spot and get on the main road. I thought "hey maybe it will actually stop at the shuttle stop to see if any customers need a ride". And sure enough the shuttle does not stop and just drives off. LOL. Here I am, a VIP customer, that needs a damn ride to the Zona and this shuttle right in front of me just drives off. Yeah, that's the level of service you can expect in Mexico. Welcome to this garbage place.I always wondered what the HK VIP got you and I think you just answered it. A big fat zero. Moe.
I don't think a person has to be rude to complain. If I suspected my drink was getting hosed down, I would have politely remind the manager to check the contents of his liquor to ensure that the the wholesaler was not ripping off the club with fake liquor.Yes that's a very good point, and it took me a while to figure that out. Patience is most definitely a virtue. It's just some times when I feel like someone's trying to scam me I get pissed and react without thinking. Like when the HK front desk tried to keep my deposit because I didn't have my paper receipt. I was like a centimeter away from losing my cool and cussing the guy out. But yes you're 100% right. Being rude and cocky is usually a bad idea, especially in a foreign country.
Oh shit! Speak of the devil. Literally as I'm typing this post I'm crossing the border in my car and guess who I see in the booth where they check your passport? The same cbp officer I got in a fight with that led to me having to appear at the federal building to give a statement against him! He didn't even look at my passport, he just glanced at me and said "see you later". God that was so awkward I hope I never see that guy again.
TerOnlyOnce
06-09-21, 00:55
I always wondered what the HK VIP got you and I think you just answered it. A big fat zero. Moe.The entire HK is kind of a scam.
HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL.
Why monger at a place like this? Why monger at all actually. It's obvious most girls are just doing it for the money, and they don't give a shit about you. You're better off just jerking off to internet porn. Unless you enjoy torturing yourself at HK, grinding through a lot of scamming girls to find the occasional good one LOL. I would say that having crappy / mechanical sex is worse than having no sex at all. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is or what she looks like. If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? If you can't even get a good reliable service, then why have sex? The whole point of sex is to have fun and a good time, and if you're getting stressed and scammed by these bitches, you may be better off remaining voluntary celibate and just jerking off. Live the rest of your life and enjoy it, don't stress out about stupid putas. There is a whole sea of these putas, unfortunately most of them are scams and rip offs. And some good, nice, respectable girls sprinkled into the mix. Is it worth the time, frustration, and money to find these sweet girls? Only to have them fall out of work due to other obligations, boyfriend, or something, so now you have to go back and grind through more putas to replace these girls? Is it really worth it, I would say it's not.
The entire HK is kind of a scam.
HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL.
Why monger at a place like this? Why monger at all actually. It's obvious most girls are just doing it for the money, and they don't give a shit about you. You're better off just jerking off to internet porn. Unless you enjoy torturing yourself at HK, grinding through a lot of scamming girls to find the occasional good one LOL. I would say that having crappy / mechanical sex is worse than having no sex at all. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is or what she looks like. If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? If you can't even get a good reliable service, then why have sex? The whole point of sex is to have fun and a good time, and if you're getting stressed and scammed by these bitches, you may be better off remaining voluntary celibate and just jerking off. Live the rest of your life and enjoy it, don't stress out about stupid putas. There is a whole sea of these putas, unfortunately most of them are scams and rip offs. And some good, nice, respectable girls sprinkled into the mix. Is it worth the time, frustration, and money to find these sweet girls? Only to have them fall out of work due to other obligations, boyfriend, or something, so now you have to go back and grind through more putas to replace these girls? Is it really worth it, I would say it's not.This is why I'm glad I found places like Brazil and Germany. I'm used to getting good service in those countries. Otherwise, I probably never would have become a "monger".
LuvMexicanas
06-09-21, 01:48
The entire HK is kind of a scam.
HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL.
Why monger at a place like this? Why monger at all actually. It's obvious most girls are just doing it for the money, and they don't give a shit about you. You're better off just jerking off to internet porn. Unless you enjoy torturing yourself at HK, grinding through a lot of scamming girls to find the occasional good one LOL. I would say that having crappy / mechanical sex is worse than having no sex at all. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is or what she looks like. If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? If you can't even get a good reliable service, then why have sex? The whole point of sex is to have fun and a good time, and if you're getting stressed and scammed by these bitches, you may be better off remaining voluntary celibate and just jerking off. Live the rest of your life and enjoy it, don't stress out about stupid putas. There is a whole sea of these putas, unfortunately most of them are scams and rip offs..It's not a scam. You choose to enter and as an adult, it's on you how you choose to spend your money once inside. No one forces you to enter or pull the money out of your pocket.
TerOnlyOnce
06-09-21, 02:17
Also there are some putas that get angry and mad whenever you touch your cawk in the room LOL. Even while you have the condom on, if you touch your penis they will make you wash your hands and waste more time. And then they will get angry and complain cause you touched yourself looolol. It's so funny and sad. That's how they rip off customers, so now you have to worry about not accidently touching yourself because that will just kill more time on the session and then you will lose your erection because the puta will go crazy and complain LOL. Oh god, I love this type of scam stuff. It's truly such a scam industry. These girls are making a killing fleecing these stupid Americans. It's all a strategy to do low effort and come out with the money loolol.
The entire HK is kind of a scam.
HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL.
Why monger at a place like this? Why monger at all actually. It's obvious most girls are just doing it for the money, and they don't give a shit about you. You're better off just jerking off to internet porn. Unless you enjoy torturing yourself at HK, grinding through a lot of scamming girls to find the occasional good one LOL. I would say that having crappy / mechanical sex is worse than having no sex at all. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is or what she looks like. If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? If you can't even get a good reliable service, then why have sex? The whole point of sex is to have fun and a good time, and if you're getting stressed and scammed by these bitches, you may be better off remaining voluntary celibate and just jerking off. Live the rest of your life and enjoy it, don't stress out about stupid putas. There is a whole sea of these putas, unfortunately most of them are scams and rip offs..LOL. You sound really bitter. Did something in particular happen to you?
Babe Magnet
06-09-21, 02:20
I've drank like five of these vampiros and I don't even feel a buzz. Put some damn alcohol in the glass. So he comes back with another round and as I'm chugging my drink I start feeling super weird, I started seeing double vision and just felt like something seriously wasn't right. I wanted to panic and tell my buddy to do something, take me to the emergency room or something. It was a feeling I'd never felt before.The moral of that story is don't order mixed drinks in a titty bar. I wouldn't trust those to pour a proper drink even if they weren't pissed at me. I order beer from bartenders only and watch them open it.
Here is my theory on chica service relative to money. I think that they think $60-80 is a reasonable fee for their services, so they put in the effort. Lower than $60 they feel like they are getting rip off, so they are not going to enjoy themselves and they withhold pleasure. At $100, they think they got a scam going on and they cannot wait to end it early and get their ass back into the club to find another moron to scam.
Babe Magnet
06-09-21, 02:27
Another thing to keep in mind is Latin culture seems to be different in that the complainer is seen as the asshole moreso than the person you're making the complaint against. Yea it seems ass backwards but that's just how it is some times.I dunno, Jinxx. I've never been shy about raising hell about anything, anywhere in Mexico or anywhere else and well over 95% of the time, I win. Maybe it'll come back to bite me someday; I don't know. But, one thing I do know: you'll never get very far in life by laying down.
I needed a ride from the border to hotel cascades. I have the VIP card. I saw the area right next to where you get in Mexico after crossing the border at ped east. There's a banner that says Zona shuttle. After a while I see the Zona shuttle show up but it drives off on some path and parks towards the end of the path. I go up and say I would like to use the Zona shuttle. Then they point me to another direction. So I just thought "whatever" and left. About 10 minutes later I see the shuttle pull out of its parking spot and get on the main road. I thought "hey maybe it will actually stop at the shuttle stop to see if any customers need a ride". And sure enough the shuttle does not stop and just drives off. LOL. Here I am, a VIP customer, that needs a damn ride to the Zona and this shuttle right in front of me just drives off. Yeah, that's the level of service you can expect in Mexico. Welcome to this garbage place.The Ped East limo is run by a piece of shit *******, who will throw a fit if you don't tip him $5. Walk over to the Ped West limo where a couple of nice dudes will take care of you. They will appreciate your $1 tip and will actually call a car or limo if isn't readily available.
I always wondered what the HK VIP got you and I think you just answered it. A big fat zero. Moe.If the monger is not getting a room for the night I am not sure why the monger would buy a VIP Card.
If I go on weekends the VIP Card pays for itself in two visits with room discount + free drink. I am about to get my 4th visit on this VIP card.
How do you know of the file offers GFE or BBBJ? Do you ask prior to taking her back?If you want anything particular I would suggest to ask for it before going up to room.
I have been able to get things in the room the were not on the menu in the club but I would consider those kinds of things extra rewards and do not expect it to happen.
Baxter Slade
06-09-21, 03:25
If the monger is not getting a room for the night I am not sure why the monger would buy a VIP Card.
If I go on weekends the VIP Card pays for itself in two visits with room discount + free drink. I am about to get my 4th visit on this VIP card.Totally makes sense. They raised the price and cut back on the time the card is good. Yes the only way to get your moneys worth is the room discount. And if you are able to stay on Mon. Or Tue. Very easy to get your money back.
If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? And some good, nice, respectable girls sprinkled into the mix. Is it worth the time, frustration, and money to find these sweet girls?Why bother. Because some gals, especially street gals, give great service.
My experience is about 1 in 5 new girls I bring to the room give great service.
Once you find a great gal. You can skip the others and get repeat service.
So the treasure hunt is worth it because there are treasures out there.
Also, if you get longer sessions (1 HR or 2 HR) like I do then you can truly have a nice time, dirty dancing, etc.
Yes HK staff definitely remembers guys who piss them off. In my case I pissed them off using that limo back to the border giving them 2 dollar tips. I used it like 3 times in 10 days before I showed up outside at 7 am and the 3 of them just looked at me and said maybe later, and then I heard them say 2 dollar tip. I left took an uber for 2 dollars. You got to remember who we are dealing with at these places. Not the happiest guys, they watch woman getting wealthy and just because they are male can't make that same money.I tip them $3 each way.
I am curious what do others tip the HK drivers for rides to / from the border?
Also, is Uber readily available for $2 each way or do you have to wait a long time?
AmericanPi
06-09-21, 14:36
Not coming down on you bro. Just trying to be real.
You're surprised it's all about the money and quantity of sessions for an HK puta? Imma lay out a few basic rules of the game:
- no, you are not special. If a puta makes you feel that way, she's good at her job or hasn't had a crappy date that night. Yet.
- yes, it is about the money. Your money is as good as someone else's.
- no, they do not need to cultivate long-term customers. Great if they do but 99 pct of the dudes they go up with they'll never see again. They know this as well as you do.
Don't be pissed at the girl. This game is a gamble. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Part of the fun is you never know.
The entire HK is kind of a scam.
HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL..
Baxter Slade
06-09-21, 16:32
I tip them $3 each way.
I am curious what do others tip the HK drivers for rides to / from the border?
Also, is Uber readily available for $2 each way or do you have to wait a long time?I tip $3 if I'm the lone passenger and sometimes $4 if the driver is friendly. Still cheaper than a taxi. If with other people my tip is $2. For me that ride is not worth messing with uber to wait and maybe save a dollar fifty.
Captain Solo
06-09-21, 17:27
Agree with BabeMag.
The world is full of stupid, evil assholes taking advantage of, running over, abusing others.
Anywhere I travel, if I am not treated fairly and justly by anyone, I will press my issues, elevate my complaints to the proper authorities, and fight back in any overt or covert ways.
You are not doing yourself or anyone favors by shutting up, laying down and taking abuses. By fighting back and setting abusers straight, you will at least try to make them better persons and eventually things will improve for everyone.
I found even the worst abusers in the world would concede to facts and reasons, and respect you for them.
I tip them $3 each way.
I am curious what do others tip the HK drivers for rides to / from the border?
Also, is Uber readily available for $2 each way or do you have to wait a long time?If it's daytime I just walk there after customs. Twenty-five minutes.
Captain Solo
06-09-21, 17:57
HK's VIP shuttle is slow and unpredictable to pick up at Ped East border crossing.
It's not worth waiting a long time for it to show and risking safety especially at night. It's quicker and better to book $2 UBER ride or take $5 taxi ride to HK and not being hassled by HK's drivers over tips.
On the way back you can wait around HK's valet parking for the shuttle so It's safer. If you are the only person riding then tip the driver $2-3. If more than 2 persons, tip him $1 each, unless you feel more generous. Just ignore the driver' ugly expression over tip, if any.
Drivers and meseros make far more money every night than the girls hanging out, selling fichas and sex inside the bar. But even the poor girls typically tip valet parking guys $2 for fetching their cars.
I dunno, Jinxx. I've never been shy about raising hell about anything, anywhere in Mexico or anywhere else and well over 95% of the time, I win. Maybe it'll come back to bite me someday; I don't know. But, one thing I do know: you'll never get very far in life by laying down.Yea but we were talking about complaining to the hotel staff about a chica giving crappy service. In my opinion a guy would have to be a complete whiny little be*tch to go crying to another grown man that a chica didn't give good service in the room. Imagine telling the hotel desk guy "the chica wouldn't kiss me the way I like" or "her pussy didn't get wet and she didn't have any lube", or "she wouldn't spread her legs wide open or let me pound her doggy style because she said my cock was too big", or "she only sucked my cock for 30 seconds and was rushing me the whole time". Those hotel guys don't give a crap if a chica gives bad service. That's up to the monger himself to make sure he has chemistry with the chica before taking her to the room.
And you claim you never hesitate to complain and "95% of the time you win". I'm not sure what your definition of the word "win" is. I remember your story about your grand battle royale with the Mexican border cops over the $30 tourist permit and I'm not sure that you can truly claim total victory on that one.
I only say these things because I'm very much a "complainer" and I never hesitate to say something when people aren't doing their job right. I've noticed a very obvious difference in the way gringos react to complaints compared to the way Mexicans react to complaints. Gringos are more likely to take me serious and do what's necessary to make things right, whereas Mexicans seem more likely to have a "so what? F*ck you" or "wtf do you want me to do about it?" type attitude.
Also there are some putas that get angry and mad whenever you touch your cawk in the room LOL. Even while you have the condom on, if you touch your penis they will make you wash your hands and waste more time. And then they will get angry and complain cause you touched yourself looolol. It's so funny and sad. That's how they rip off customers, so now you have to worry about not accidently touching yourself because that will just kill more time on the session and then you will lose your erection because the puta will go crazy and complain LOL. Oh god, I love this type of scam stuff. It's truly such a scam industry. These girls are making a killing fleecing these stupid Americans. It's all a strategy to do low effort and come out with the money loolol.I thought I'd heard some weird complaints, but yours is the topper. You know, if you enter the room, and then make a point of washing your hands before anything else, it goes a long way towards showing the girl you care a bit about hygiene.
If the monger is not getting a room for the night I am not sure why the monger would buy a VIP Card.
If I go on weekends the VIP Card pays for itself in two visits with room discount + free drink. I am about to get my 4th visit on this VIP card.Well the card was cheaper or it lasted a extra month, and until covid the discount was higher. For instance rooms were 11 or 12 dollars Monday Tuesday. I used to live in hk I felt like. I would go so much for the discount to avoid 70 dollar San Diego hotel. Then I would get 2 free beers, tell myself, HK just saved me 70 bucks, for coming here, and therefore, I must return the favor by blowing all of it on sex, or 50 of it on tips for girls and drinks for them, lap dances. I used to be on a tighter budget and things were cheaper until a 2 years ago. I would go to Mexico with 100 bucks get hotel food taxi, sex, beer for me and the girls, and go home with money. Don't tell the girls that 100 bucks American is really worth about 70 now since Biden and trump printed all that money.
TerOnlyOnce
06-10-21, 00:06
This is why I'm glad I found places like Brazil and Germany. I'm used to getting good service in those countries. Otherwise, I probably never would have become a "monger".Nice, I've mongered in Mexico, Canada, and the united states. From what I've seen, bichy and entitled girls is like a worldwide plague. No country is safe from it.
It's not a scam. You choose to enter and as an adult, it's on you how you choose to spend your money once inside. No one forces you to enter or pull the money out of your pocket.There's definitely a learning curve, there are a lot of con artist women in Hong Kong, stay aware about that.
LOL. You sound really bitter. Did something in particular happen to you?I had two awful sessions my past visit. The girls argued with me in the room and were super entitled and annoying. They were hot but had inflated egos. Was annoying.
Here is my theory on chica service relative to money. I think that they think $60-80 is a reasonable fee for their services, so they put in the effort. Lower than $60 they feel like they are getting rip off, so they are not going to enjoy themselves and they withhold pleasure. At $100, they think they got a scam going on and they cannot wait to end it early and get their ass back into the club to find another moron to scam.Sounds kind of right in my experience. I've been to HK a decent amount of times and only had an opportunity at $60 for a session one time. Every other time has been at least $80. I never tried for $60 though, I would feel it's too embarrassing to mention $60 cause it could come off "too low" but that's just me.
I rarely do $100. I definitely agree that if a girl can get $100 off you then she is enjoying that a lot because it's good money for barely any work on her end. Especially if she asks to be paid upfront. It's like the icing on the cake for her, do not pay $100 at all costs, avoid avoid. I will say that the super super hot girls will be hard to get off $100, they may have convinced themselves that since they're one of the hottest in the club they are worth the highest price. So yeah, no point in trying to negotiate down unless you find one on a good day. I read this elsewhere on this board and it's true: the girls are testing your will. They are trying to make $100 the norm, if it already isn't the norm. They are trying for it because the plan is to keep pushing the limit on what guys will pay. Also, some girls do settle on $90 with me if they won't take $80. In end though all these HK girls are putas. Never forget that.
Why bother. Because some gals, especially street gals, give great service.
My experience is about 1 in 5 new girls I bring to the room give great service.
Once you find a great gal. You can skip the others and get repeat service.
So the treasure hunt is worth it because there are treasures out there.
Also, if you get longer sessions (1 HR or 2 HR) like I do then you can truly have a nice time, dirty dancing, etc.It's still a grind at the end of the day. Even if you find the good girls, you may end up losing them due to them leaving town, or leaving work, or some other type of thing. Maybe these good girls turn sour down the line. You end up trying to replace these girls now.
I'd say a more accurate statistic is this: 1 out of 5 girls is great service, 3 out of 5 medicore, 1 out of 5 terrible. That's a decent amount of sessions to go through before you find great service. Not that many people want to stomach the frustration and annoyance, only to find good girls and having to replace them later on. It starts to become a job, consistent work with the hope of some reward. Kind of like a casino, drawing you in with the chance of winning.
I tip them $3 each way.
I am curious what do others tip the HK drivers for rides to / from the border?
Also, is Uber readily available for $2 each way or do you have to wait a long time?Why are you guys tipping these HK drivers so much? Just get a DiDi to and from the border, it's like $2. DiDi is just another ride sharing app like uber, but for Mexico.
Not coming down on you bro. Just trying to be real.
You're surprised it's all about the money and quantity of sessions for an HK puta? Imma lay out a few basic rules of the game:
- no, you are not special. If a puta makes you feel that way, she's good at her job or hasn't had a crappy date that night. Yet.
- yes, it is about the money. Your money is as good as someone else's.
- no, they do not need to cultivate long-term customers. Great if they do but 99 pct of the dudes they go up with they'll never see again. They know this as well as you do.
Don't be pissed at the girl. This game is a gamble. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Part of the fun is you never know.Yeah, it's like a casino basically. I stopped playing online poker because the amount of effort I'd need to put in would be a ton before I started getting any good. And the game wasn't that important to me to bear that much frustration and time into it.
Going to HK feels somewhat similar. It's a grind, and a gamble. And like I said earlier, even if you find good service girls, there's no telling whether you'll be able to keep those girls or not. Stuff happens.
I thought I'd heard some weird complaints, but yours is the topper. You know, if you enter the room, and then make a point of washing your hands before anything else, it goes a long way towards showing the girl you care a bit about hygiene.I just need to tell it how it is. This is my interpretation and perspective of what has happened to me. People should know about this stuff. It's important for newcomers that are potentially interested in HK. I am giving the straight truth of what I have experienced.
Yea but we were talking about complaining to the hotel staff about a chica giving crappy service. In my opinion a guy would have to be a complete whiny little be*tch to go crying to another grown man that a chica didn't give good service in the room. Imagine telling the hotel desk guy "the chica wouldn't kiss me the way I like" or "her pussy didn't get wet and she didn't have any lube", or "she wouldn't spread her legs wide open or let me pound her doggy style because she said my cock was too big", or "she only sucked my cock for 30 seconds and was rushing me the whole time". Those hotel guys don't give a crap if a chica gives bad service. That's up to the monger himself to make sure he has chemistry with the chica before taking her to the room.
And you claim you never hesitate to complain and "95% of the time you win". I'm not sure what your definition of the word "win" is..Yeah I tried to complain to the front desk at HK. Was no good. It does sound silly complaining about service from the girl to the front desk. Obviously they do not care. This is Mexico for christ sake, customer satisfaction and customer service does not exist here.
I had a great time overall on my three day trip last weekend. The total damage was about a grand, not including the flight, but including my hotel room, drinks, girls and food in Tijuana. I took 5 girls to my room total over the three days, all from HK. The girls I took to me were 8's, and the club girls were mostly 7's, with some 6's and 8's, and the occasional 9 or 10. There were about 200 girls working on Friday night, and maybe 50 on Saturday morning. Also the street had many lined up as well, as there is no shortage of women here. As I stated I took 5 to my room and had amazing experiences with 2, above average experiences with 2, and a so-so experience with 1. And this is from someone who in Germany lived in Brothels for a few years on the weekends.
Lessons I learned (I understand there are others these are just mine) :
1: When you first walk in to HK, walk around and scope the place out to save money. HK staff will try to bother you as you walk around, telling you not to stand in place or lean on a rail, to get you to sit down, so that the section waiter can bother you about buying drinks, or bring girls to you so that you buy them 9 dollar drinks, which probably are sweet tea.
2: Do not have a girl you do not like sit with you, simply tell her "no mas" or "no thank you" and make a hand gesture for her to go away. A girl that sits with you will certainly have a staff member right behind her asking you to buy her a drink. And you will be expected to tip the girl. Speaking of tipping, if you like the girl and you are making out, feeling on her, vibing, etc, only tip her 1's, about once every 3 or 4 minutes or less. Do not waste money. Remember you are trying to gauge chemistry, have a good time and get her to the room. I am saying this because after my trip, I realized that I spent too much on tipping on the floor. Also for you ant*ial types use the staff as a liaison for women. You literally can point a girl out to them, tip them a buck and they will bring her over.
3: Always negotiate what you want with the girl prior to taking her to your hotel room for play. Unlike Germany where I am used to mongering, BJ is not understood for the 100 you spend. 2/5 of the girls I played scrabble with didn't even do BJ at all. Also, its like buying a used car, you'll get a better deal when you do not need a car than when you walk onto the lot and need wheels. Devote 2-3 hours to just enjoy the club, and throw out 70-80 offers to the girls, you'd be surprised who will accept.
4: It's easier to deal in the daytime. The club was packed on Friday night, but on Saturday at 10 AM, maybe 1/4 of the girls were working but the M / F ratio was much better, and I had an easier time getting the girl I wanted, than on Friday when we were packed like sardines. Also, keep in mind that after the club closes, many girls go to the 10th floor of Cascadas, where great deals can be made.
5: Don't walk around on the street, or side streets at night. Talk to no-one on the streets, just keep walking when acknowledged. Safety is priority one.
I could have done the 3 day trip, with 5 girls for about 850 had I been stricter on tipping and drank less. But imo, 300-400 a day to play with some of the hottest women around is not a bad deal.
Please feel free to educate me if there are more lessons, or concur. As I am not expert in Tijuana. Yet.
Here is my theory on chica service relative to money. I think that they think $60-80 is a reasonable fee for their services, so they put in the effort. Lower than $60 they feel like they are getting rip off, so they are not going to enjoy themselves and they withhold pleasure. At $100, they think they got a scam going on and they cannot wait to end it early and get their ass back into the club to find another moron to scam.I believe that many simply do not understand the value of investment. I noticed in HK last weekend a similar trend to when I was in Germany. The women you give full price quoted to (100 USD in HK or 50 EU in Germany) do not understand that they could potentially gain a regular, or a repeat customer. I can't tell you how many times I have had a chick give me awesome service, and literally went with her again after enjoying some drinks with her for a few hours. I think this concept goes over many of the girls' heads.
As I am not expert in Tijuana. Yet.Some things never change in Tijuana, but things do change enough to keep one guessing. Thus, becoming an expert would be quite a difficult task.
Thanks for the trip report; keep them coming.
Captain Solo
06-10-21, 02:06
JAYGFLA,
You learned quick and developed some very good strategies that the other noobs could learn from to get the best times in HK.
The best rule is to take your time, walk around the club and find girls who fit your needs. Pick the girls; don't let them pick you. If a girl come by to hit on you, just politely decline or give her a propina to send her away. There are usually only a few hundred other guys in the club she can hit on; you are not her only potential client. So stop feeling guilty saying no to all kinds of offers in HK.
Walk around the club, stop, give girls propinas, smile sweetly, talk to them and feel them up. If you find a girl who looks good, feel real, nice, sweet personality ect then they are worth inviting to a table for fichas to get to know them better. That would cut down on a lot of bad fichas and bad sessions in the hotel. Avoid girls who go around hitting on guys a lot or girls who hang together in groups. Those are usually hardened old timers who may not be so nice in bed. Look for girls who sit or stand by themselves, look a little lost or scared. Those are new girls who may be more real and give hotter, more personal sessions.
If you stay overnight, romance your favorite girls and ask them out for dinner. It's not expensive and they may stay overnight for small tokens. Keep a bottle of good tequila in the room and give them shots. Girls go sexually wild when they are loosened up.
HK day time has very few hot girls. It's a bore for guys who go often. Weekend night time may be crowded but has lots of hot new girls, some of the sweetest ones. I also make friends, party with locals and other bros. Some guys are really fun, give me good intels, sometimes introduce me to new girls, new ways of enjoying their sexuality.
Glad you had a good time. Would be interested in a comparison between Tijuana and sex scene in Germany.
TerOnlyOnce
06-10-21, 07:18
I believe that many simply do not understand the value of investment. I noticed in HK last weekend a similar trend to when I was in Germany. The women you give full price quoted to (100 USD in HK or 50 EU in Germany) do not understand that they could potentially gain a regular, or a repeat customer. I can't tell you how many times I have had a chick give me awesome service, and literally went with her again after enjoying some drinks with her for a few hours. I think this concept goes over many of the girls' heads.Someone said this before but the girls don't need regulars to survive, at all.
There is no shortage of Americans flying in from all over the country to go to HK. These girls can fleece these men for $100 per mediocre session all year round. It's a scam industry. The girls are simply trying to maximize profits and do less work. This is why some won't even do BJ when they are getting paid $100 which is ridiculous. Overall, I would not recommend. Maybe if you're abnormal and enjoy torturing yourself, sure go to HK regularly. But if you're a normal guy and just want some sex, you're better off sticking to jerking off to internet porn which will provide you a much more consistent experience, be less frustrating, and save you some money as a bonus. There's nothing to feel good about when you give your money to a scam industry, presented and ran similar to that of a casino. Remember, the house always wins.
If you can't even fuck these girls and enjoy it from a purely physical standpoint because there are too many scammers and business type / mechanical service girls in the mix. And basically zero of these girls respect the men there or have any sort of connection with them. Then why are you bothering to fuck these girls in the first place? Really ask yourself this question.
The entire HK is kind of a scam.
HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL.
Why monger at a place like this? Why monger at all actually. It's obvious most girls are just doing it for the money, and they don't give a shit about you. You're better off just jerking off to internet porn. Unless you enjoy torturing yourself at HK, grinding through a lot of scamming girls to find the occasional good one LOL. I would say that having crappy / mechanical sex is worse than having no sex at all. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is or what she looks like. If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? If you can't even get a good reliable service, then why have sex? The whole point of sex is to have fun and a good time, and if you're getting stressed and scammed by these bitches, you may be better off remaining voluntary celibate and just jerking off. Live the rest of your life and enjoy it, don't stress out about stupid putas. There is a whole sea of these putas, unfortunately most of them are scams and rip offs. And some good, nice, respectable girls sprinkled into the mix. Is it worth the time, frustration, and money to find these sweet girls? Only to have them fall out of work due to other obligations, boyfriend, or something, so now you have to go back and grind through more putas to replace these girls? Is it really worth it, I would say it's not.Maybe it's time to take a break from HK LOL. Are you gunning for trophy girls or something? I don't think many people are going to claim that HK is the place to go for good service. 30 minutes for a session is bad value. $100 for 30 minutes is awful value. I don't know what people expect. There's always amazing providers in this city away from HK. You just have do your due diligence.
CalvinReid0325
06-10-21, 18:44
Anyone visiting Tijuana this weekend, I'm flying in Saturday, anyone want a newbie wingman?
If you stay overnight, romance your favorite girls and ask them out for dinner. It's not expensive and they may stay overnight for small tokens. Keep a bottle of good tequila in the room and give them shots. Girls go sexually wild when they are loosened up.
HK day time has very few hot girls. It's a bore for guys who go often. Weekend night time may be crowded but has lots of hot new girls, some of the sweetest ones. I also make friends, party with locals and other bros. Some guys are really fun, give me good intels, sometimes introduce me to new girls, new ways of enjoying their sexuality.
Glad you had a good time. Would be interested in a comparison between Tijuana and sex scene in Germany.Wow, great tips and thanks Captain! I definitely will have a bottle in the room next time I am down that's brilliant. I know this is an HK thread but I'll give you a little insight / compare and contrast vs. Germany since I have been to Brothels there a hundred times or so:
In Germany, the two main ways people get working girls are at the FKKs (Brothels) or through sites online. When you enter the FKK, you immediately are greeted and given a Robe to wear and key to a locker. You store your belongings, shower and then off you go to the main area, where there will be saunas, couches, a bar and girls walking around nude. There will usually also be a masseuse on duty as well, who can give a massage for 20 Euros or so. The majority of the girls in Germany believe it or not, are from Romania or another country. Only a small number will be from Germany. The high end FKKs are in Berlin and Frankfurt with hundreds of girls (7's-10's on a society scale) working on a typical Friday night, however some smaller ones are scattered around Germany as well. Entry is usually 20 Euros or so, with no drink minimum. As far as sex with a girl, prices start at 50 Euros for sex and BJ for 30 minutes. Anything extra BBBJ, CIM, DFK etc usually would tack on an extra 50 per item. Girls are competitive and usually give a good effort. If they see you often, like in my case, they give a better effort and compete. My friends and I usually would negotiate 1 HR with the girl, DFK, BBBJ for about 100 Euros and think that was a good deal, because it is. Occasionally we would hit a home run, which means you get three additions for less than 100. Also, same applies with gauging chemistry, as it is recommended to buy a woman a drink, talk to her, feel her, kiss her, etc to determine if she's worth the cash.
Lets Juxtapose with Tijuana:
In Tijuana, there are more girls in one compact area, as all the clubs, HK being the king, are co-located, quantifiably giving a monger access to an estimated 500+ Latin women on a Friday night. 80-100 USD is the typical rate for a club girl, maybe half of that for a street girl. Quality range is 5-9 on a general societal scale. Girls seem less likely on gaining a regular as it seems that Tijuana is traversed by enough 1st timers. I liken this to the Steak Restaurant 1 mile from the airport in a big city. It's more important for them to have a big sign, than to have the best steaks, because return business is not as much as first time business. Girls in Tijuana seem to want 100 USD. However, there is an approach you can take where you chat the girls up, tip and find girls you have natural chemistry with before you take her for a late night rendezvous. I did find 2 fantastic experiences out of 5, so I know it is possible. Most girls were pretty stern with the 100 price point and everything needed to be negotiated, as CBJ was not a given. Also, there are a few new girls that seemed to not really know what they were doing. I mean one, for example, I literally had to show her how to do a proper HJ and BJ, as she was being too rough.
In conclusion, they both have their pluses and minuses and it really boils down to the type of girl you are attracted to, to determine which world is your Heaven. Me, I love all women, so I think they are both hidden gems. Let's just hope that the next decades catalyst like OnlyFans, idiots getting their passports and control shifting from demand to supply, does not deflate service or inflate prices.
I had a great time overall on my three day trip last weekend. The total damage was about a grand, not including the flight, but including my hotel room, drinks, girls and food in Tijuana. I took 5 girls to my room total over the three days, all from HK. The girls I took to me were 8's, and the club girls were mostly 7's, with some 6's and 8's, and the occasional 9 or 10. There were about 200 girls working on Friday night, and maybe 50 on Saturday morning. Also the street had many lined up as well, as there is no shortage of women here. As I stated I took 5 to my room and had amazing experiences with 2, above average experiences with 2, and a so-so experience with 1. And this is from someone who in Germany lived in Brothels for a few years on the weekends..The only other thing I would suggest is to keep an eye on the street action. Every now and then there's diamonds in the rough and you can end up having a great session for more than half of what you'll spend at HK. If you convert your currency to pesos you'll even end up with a greater deal. Street math in Tijuana is a whole different ball game. If you get quoted $30-40 USD for full service you could end up paying the equivalent of about $20 USD in pesos. Compared to what you pay and end up receiving at HK, it's a no brainer. Before I go inside HK I always make a couple rounds in the streets to scope out the talent. Then I go to HK for an hour or two and if nothing is going on I go back out and look again. Once in a while you'll find HK worthy talent for a fraction of the price out there and these girls are more open to suggestions than a spoiled HK girl. You would be surprised at what a promise for an extra $5-10 tip could get ya.
Babe Magnet
06-10-21, 21:45
Yea but we were talking about complaining to the hotel staff about a chica giving crappy service. In my opinion a guy would have to be a complete whiny little be*tch to go crying to another grown man that a chica didn't give good service in the room.Absolutely agree with you on that, Jinxx. Apparently, I misunderstood your point. I understood your comment in the context of people letting clerks and maseros run over them. I solve my own problems and certainly don't need hotel clerk to fight my battles.
And you claim you never hesitate to complain and "95% of the time you win". I'm not sure what your definition of the word "win" is. I remember your story about your grand battle royale with the Mexican border cops over the $30 tourist permit and I'm not sure that you can truly claim total victory on that one.My definition of win is "I get my way". You are correct: the border crossing episode was a mixed-bag. I may have lost the battle but I won the war. I still got into Mexico with no paperwork and no money and that was my original objective. Also, that 95% I was quoting applies to "battles" with civilians. You're never going to win a battle against the cops or cartels here unless you are one.
I've noticed a very obvious difference in the way gringos react to complaints compared to the way Mexicans react to complaints. Gringos are more likely to take me serious and do what's necessary to make things right, whereas Mexicans seem more likely to have a "so what? F*ck you" or "wtf do you want me to do about it?" type attitude.Yeah. The reason they don't take Americans seriously is what I posted before: the stupid, spineless, spendthrift stereotype that most Mexicans apply to Americans. You can just tell them you're Mexican (if they haven't figured that out already) but for me it's a re-education program every time. But, if you stand up to people down here, they'll back down the vast majority of the time. I can easily count on one hand the times anyone here (again, excluding cops and cartels) has backed me down on any dispute.
Babe Magnet
06-10-21, 21:58
The world is full of stupid, evil assholes taking advantage of, running over, abusing others.
Anywhere I travel, if I am not treated fairly and justly by anyone, I will press my issues, elevate my complaints to the proper authorities, and fight back in any overt or covert ways.
You are not doing yourself or anyone favors by shutting up, laying down and taking abuses. By fighting back and setting abusers straight, you will at least try to make them better persons and eventually things will improve for everyone.
I found even the worst abusers in the world would concede to facts and reasons, and respect you for them.Exactly. That is the only way you can get their respect. You'll never get the respect of anyone by caving into their demands. It's unfortunate that US politicians can't seem to grasp this fact.
OneInTheDugOut
06-11-21, 00:32
Can anyone help me out with the name of this girl. Here's a super vague description. Skinny, b cup, dark shoulderlength hair, huge round eyes with long eye lashes. Dance is both front and back stage, smoking hot. The eyes are key probably. With guys all Night last night, want to land her tonight.
Saw a cockroach the size of a half dollars crawl across the clear floor and or the main stage / stairs area. My buddy who is a construction guy says nobody should be standing there, it has to much give and will collapse eventually. Doubt it.
The place was packed, mostly 6-7's. The girl mentioned above the only 9 to be found. The new hanger was open. Foam show and me and one other guy were the only men in the room. Private show was nice.
But, if you stand up to people down here, they'll back down the vast majority of the time. I can easily count on one hand the times anyone here (again, excluding cops and cartels) has backed me down on any dispute.
Ha! Then you haven't met my land lady. She's in her 60's and she's feisty. In Spanish you would say es bien brava. I've had a couple of issues with her though she likes me for the most part. I've seen her get into arguments with people and I've seen how she treats her day laborers she hires to help do maintenance on the property. You would not want to tangle with this lady LOL.
OneInTheDugOut
06-11-21, 08:31
I found out the name of the girl with the big eyes I referenced earlier. Her name is Alejandra, (I swear she said Clarita, but the waiter corrected me) and she is smoking hot. Great grind with a drink. Plan On hitting it tomorrow. Any experiences?
KeepTheFun
06-11-21, 19:24
There were couple of recent interesting threads about bad experiences / scam in HK and how to have good time for newbies and guys who come once a year or so. I did about a 100 girls sessions in my room in last 2 years before covid and about 70 girls sessions in last 5 months. Few points:
1) Who you are matters only a little bit for the girl to go with you upstairs but it matters a bit more in terms what kind of session you get upstairs. Girls are in HK to make money period but who you are makes their job more painful or less painful. I am white looking guy in my 40's. In real life scale I would rate myself 4 to 5 (Face 5, Body 3, personality / charm 7, genouristy 6). I do very well financially from my engineering career as executive and stock options I invest in. Money is not issue for me but I really really hate to spend one dollar if I can save it. For me it is all about maximizing my dollar value while achieving my happiness goals. I speak basic Spanish.
2) Think about what you should spend and how long you want stay beforehand. Set reasonable budget in terms of time and money. If you stretch yourself you will have anxiety before you go, be overwhelmed and panicky and a bit edgy because you expect more for stretching your self when you are there and some guilt and bad taste when you are back home even if you had fun. You should be comfortable if you spend your budget. Expect to spend more on Fri and Sat nights comparing to other days but there are way more 8 to 9 scale girls during Fri and Sat nights.
3) Think about what makes you happy and then try to do within you're budget. For example, is it quality of girls or quantity of girls? Is it how girl looks or what she does in session? This help you plan. Of course we all want to do many sessions with best looking girls and do best GFE or PSE depending on your desire but reality is we have constrains we work with. Few examples, 6/7 scale looking street girls for quick 20 minutes (CFS $20, CBJ and CFS $25 to $30). It could be cheaper for 5 scale looking girls or during the week days. Agency girl typically 7 to 7.5 on scale. You should expect BBJ, DFK, CFS for $80 to $105 depending on agency and / or girl for an hour. Some come to Cascadas rooms and generally are nicer and more accommodating than hot HK girls but don't expect 8 or higher girls from agency. 8.5 to 9 scale HK top girls are more expensive especially during busy time. I managed to get nice to amazing session with them but I had to pay premium ($100 session, $40 drinks and tips downstairs, $20 tip upstairs). I could take most of them straight to the room and save the $60 but what happens in the session varies and will be more mechanical and rushed. One thing to consider is $100 for rushed 25 to 30 minutes or $160 for more than an hour nice session between upstairs and downstairs. There is no wrong or right answer. My point is think about what makes you happy and can do within your budget. Many guys I met do mix of all examples I mentioned above. Of course always remember there is hotel cost, food cost which is not expensive and your drinks cost.
4) Having another guy with you saves money and makes experience more fun. You can spend time with him during downtime between sessions and preventing you from feeling alone and buy so many drinks for girls because you are bored. I go Solo and never with a guy I know in real life to maximize on my fantasies without constrains and not risk to impact my high paying job in San Diego. I have free TextNow phone number where I use to keep in touch with guys I meet there during my time there and to keep in touch after I go back home. It always fun to tell another guy how amazing was the session or vent about what went wrong in the session sometimes. Be friendly and have fun with the guys as much as with the girls.
5) Rules I follow to have very memorable nice sessions with 8 to 9 scale HK girls. A) It's settled in my head to pay premium price ($100 session, $20 for 2 drinks for girl downstairs, $20 for $1 steady tipping for 25 minutes downstairs, $20 tip upstairs) for the session I want. I tell the girl to drink slowly and I will tip you and I show her the stack of dollars B) I have to get LFK before I go upstairs. I am clear with girl after I warm up to her. No kiss no room and I promise nice tip upstairs if I had good time. Sometimes it takes few minutes for girls to agree but I stay firm but nice. %10 of the times the girl refuses and say never kiss on mouth. In such case, I stop tipping and nicely tell her no problem and thank her for her time then she leaves and I avoid not up to my liking session. C) when I go upstairs I show the girl the $100 first, get nice kiss on the mouth then pay the $100. I also show the girl nicely $20 and tell her I pay nice tip if I like session with a smile. This gives the girl a motivation to give me a nice session since she needs to spend time in my room anyways so what not make another $20 dollars. D) Success rate varies like anything else in life (%15 of sessions amazing and I will remember for next 10 years, %65 of sessions will make you really happy and enjoying your time there and might repeat with girl, %15 of sessions will be boring or awkward for whatever reason but you move on 1 hour after the session, %5 of sessions will go badly and girl turns really bad and might do stupid stuff). Don't let one bad session ruin your entire visit to Tijuana. It is part of the experience and game.
6) Don't fall in love with the girls. I don't blame you if you did while trying to satisfy your fantasies with great actresses. I understand there are exceptions to anything but HK is not the place to find a real GF. I managed to do few things with girls outside the club but HK not really meant to be the place to find girls to do more than fun downstairs, upstairs or maybe lunch or dinner in the hotels restaurants. HK girls usually calculate their time with how much money they can make in the club and upstairs sessions and that is expensive.
Maybe it's time to take a break from HK LOL. Are you gunning for trophy girls or something? I don't think many people are going to claim that HK is the place to go for good service. 30 minutes for a session is bad value. $100 for 30 minutes is awful value. I don't know what people expect. There's always amazing providers in this city away from HK. You just have do your
due diligence.I agree with taking a break, I went to HK so much most of the girls and waiters and management all know me. The girls also talk to each other and spread lies. I don't know I found that taking a break is a good idea especially since I don't want to keep seeing the same putas I banged before looking at me with angry and jealous eyes. Plus I have a girlfriend now.
Dcrist0527
06-11-21, 21:19
I don't post a lot on here anymore. But I do feel the need to share this recent experience. I had spent a couple nights closing down HK in the wee hours of the morning. Well, the next day, Saturday the 5th, I just wanted to see what the daytime action was like. It's very rare for me to be there during daylight hours, so just curious more than anything. It's definitely a more relaxed vibe. Number of girls and guys were about even. I think the number of meseros outnumbered guys and girls! But still, a lot less hassle.
I was watching this girl (never got her name, sorry) with 2 men right next to the main stage, first floor on the north side. He was blowing through a lot of money but having fun. This girl was having fun. The dude ended up dropping his pants and he was getting a little out of control. Ends up with this girl sandwiched between 3 dudes. She was laughing and I just held up 4 fingers, asking her if she likes 4 somes. Just playing. She started flirting with me a bit from across the room. But I just moved on. An hour later, I'm walking past the bar on the south end and she grabs my junk as I was walking by. I did not notice her. We get to talking. She's with her friend. We're talking for about 5 minutes or maybe more when I ask her if she wants a drink. Backwards, no? But she was fun. She's putting my hand down her pants and her friend is pretty much giving me a HJ, though I was still fully clothed. The bartender was a very cool guy.
What made this interaction interesting? The first girl asked me quieres leche? So I'm thinking I misheard her. I thought she meant to say quiero. Nope. Turns out her friend is lactating. I know someone was just recently asking about that. So her friend whips out her tits and sprays me. LOL Now her friend is hot. Very nice body (maybe 8 or 8.5). Her face is nice (probably 7). But this is a girl that you can tell will put you through the ringer. So we start messing around with her and then the first girl grabs the shot glass from my tequila. She fills it up and starts hollering from the bar 'who wants a $2 shot? Eventually two dudes come over. They were really cool. The first dude says what's in it. He found out quickly when he got "shot" in the shoulder and I got shot in the face. His friend paid $5 to have girl number 1 drink the shot, which she did.
I regret not getting names and numbers but I was on my way out. Always lots of fun to be had at HK.
TerOnlyOnce
06-12-21, 05:03
5) Rules I follow to have very memorable nice sessions with 8 to 9 scale HK girls. A) It's settled in my head to pay premium price ($100 session, $20 for 2 drinks for girl downstairs, $20 for $1 steady tipping for 25 minutes downstairs, $20 tip upstairs) for the session I want. I tell the girl to drink slowly and I will tip you and I show her the stack of dollars B) I have to get LFK before I go upstairs. I am clear with girl after I warm up to her. No kiss no room and I promise nice tip upstairs if I had good time. Sometimes it takes few minutes for girls to agree but I stay firm but nice. %10 of the times the girl refuses and say never kiss on mouth. In such case, I stop tipping and nicely tell her no problem and thank her for her time then she leaves and I avoid not up to my liking session. C) when I go upstairs I show the girl the $100 first, get nice kiss on the mouth then pay the $100. I also show the girl nicely $20 and tell her I pay nice tip if I like session with a smile. This gives the girl a motivation to give me a nice session since she needs to spend time in my room anyways so what not make another $20 dollars. D) Success rate varies like anything else in life (%15 of sessions amazing and I will remember for next 10 years, %65 of sessions will make you really happy and enjoying your time there and might repeat with girl, %15 of sessions will be boring or awkward for whatever reason but you move on 1 hour after the session, %5 of sessions will go badly and girl turns really bad and might do stupid stuff). Don't let one bad session ruin your entire visit to Tijuana. It is part of the experience and game.That's actually a not bad idea, pay the set amount upfront and then mention you'll tip additional if the service is good, you can even show that you have additional money.
It only makes sense if you can get service for $60-70 though, then tip $20 making your sex fee $80-90 total. You don't want to be paying $100 per session to these HK girls. Trust me, just don't do it. $80 max. If they're firm on $100 I would just move on. Or I would straight up say "half pay before and half after" before you even bring her to the room. Not worth paying $100 and upfront, regardless of how hot she is. Think with your big brain and stop getting scammed. Just don't do it. Have self control.
There were couple of recent interesting threads about bad experiences / scam in HK and how to have good time for newbies and guys who come once a year or so. I did about a 100 girls sessions in my room in last 2 years before covid and
about 70 girls sessions in last 5 months. Few points:
1) Who you are matters only a little bit for the girl to go with you upstairs but it matters a bit more in terms what kind of session you get upstairs. Girls are in HK to make money period but who you are makes their job more painful or less painful. I am white looking guy in my 40's. In real life scale I would rate myself 4 to 5 (Face 5, Body 3, personality / charm 7, genouristy 6). I do very well financially from my engineering career as executive and stock options I invest in. Money is not issue for me but I really really hate to spend one dollar if I can save it. For me it is all about maximizing my dollar value while achieving my happiness goals. I speak basic Spanish.
2) Think about what you should spend and how long you want stay beforehand. Set reasonable budget in terms of time and money. If you stretch yourself you will have anxiety before you go, be overwhelmed and panicky and a bit edgy because you expect more for stretching your self when you are there and some guilt and bad taste when you are back home even if you had fun. You should be comfortable if you spend your budget. Expect to spend more on Fri and Sat nights comparing to other days but there are way more 8 to 9 scale girls during Fri and Sat nights.Very sage advice on the art of mongering. Yes please for your own mental sanity do not fall in love with an HK chica or with any chica in the zona.
I love when the girls grab your junk as your going by them. In this crazy woke society we live in the USA it' such a breath of fresh air where you can just have fun and not be so "offended."
I don't post a lot on here anymore. But I do feel the need to share this recent experience. I had spent a couple nights closing down HK in the wee hours of the morning. Well, the next day, Saturday the 5th, I just wanted to see what the daytime action was like. It's very rare for me to be there during daylight hours, so just curious more than anything. It's definitely a more relaxed vibe. Number of girls and guys were about even. I think the number of meseros outnumbered guys and girls! But still, a lot less hassle.
I was watching this girl (never got her name, sorry) with 2 men right next to the main stage, first floor on the north side. He was blowing through a lot of money but having fun. This girl was having fun. The dude ended up dropping his pants and he was getting a little out of control. Ends up with this girl sandwiched between 3 dudes. She was laughing and I just held up 4 fingers, asking her if she likes 4 somes. Just playing. She started flirting with me a bit from across the room. But I just moved on. An hour later, I'm walking past the bar on the south end and she grabs my junk as I was walking by. I did not notice her. We get to talking. She's with her friend. We're talking for about 5 minutes or maybe more when I ask her if she wants a drink. Backwards, no? But she was fun. She's putting my hand down her pants and her friend is pretty much giving me a HJ, though I was still fully clothed. The bartender was a very cool guy..
I never realized how hot it is to get a little kissing from the girl before and of course after going upstairs. Some girls won't be for it and I am ok with that. I wash my mouth out with little bottle of scope afterward to help kill off any germs. It is a bit risky to kiss but I find it so wonderfully intimate when the whole act with hookers can be a bit mechanical due to us not being able to put our fingers inside them etc.
That's actually a not bad idea, pay the set amount upfront and then mention you'll tip additional if the service is good, you can even show that you have additional money.
It only makes sense if you can get service for $60-70 though, then tip $20 making your sex fee $80-90 total. You don't want to be paying $100 per session to these HK girls. Trust me, just don't do it. $80 max. If they're firm on $100 I would just move on. Or I would straight up say "half pay before and half after" before you even bring her to the room. Not worth paying $100 and upfront, regardless of how hot she is. Think with your big brain and stop getting scammed. Just don't do it. Have self control.
Have not been down to HK since before covid. Thinking about going this Saturday afternoon if anyone looking to go down message me through the board. Always feel it's bit safer and more enjoyable to share a bit of the adventure.
I just flew back to San Diego Sunday and met a cool guy in the airport from Mexico City area. He was sharing how great some of the clubs were in Mexico City and said they were as good as HK. Got to put that on the bucket list maybe later this year.
Captain Solo
06-14-21, 16:35
Saturday night went in HK about 7 PM. All floors and the hangar were open. The place was packed with guys and girls. You have to squeeze through crowds to go around the club. Combining HK, Chavelas and the Hangar, it was noisy and festive like a carnival with combined about 10,000 SF. There were more girls and far more hot new girls working than I have ever seen before, probably 120 to 150 floating around. All tables and booths were taken by groups with their bottle service. Could not find a place to sit. Lots of guys brought their hot, young GFs along to party. HK has turned into a huge carnival, a tourists' attraction for families and friends besides being just the hottest, most crowded and most successful putas bar in the world I have ever seen, well, except may be the now-defunct Help Disco at its height. Damn.
A series of average looking chicas was stripping non stop on the main stage. Their dances were ordinary but a group of Asians= guys with large stacks of dollar bills was raining tips from the balcony, creating a lot of excitement and drawing attention to themselves. The other HK girls were standing around gazing at the hub nub. There were probably jealous at the ordinary-looking strippers getting all that attention and money. The guys would make a lot more friends and gain a lot of gratitude by going around the club handing out tips to a lot of hot, young girls who wish to make a few bucks for the night.
The south stage and one in the Hangar both had a pair of girls rolling around in shaving foam, doing lesbian acts to very light audience. Girls were dancing on all bars, but most people were drawn to the main stage and fixated on it. In the Hangar, HK placed 6 girls to dance on the bar, all average-looking. the poor girls were dancing to no audience. Lot of groups of guys were sitting at tables, drinking without girls while 2 dozens or so girls were sitting forlornly by themselves.
Chavelas had a lot more room with empty tables. A live band was playing Mexican country music. Girls were going back and forth to HK, a few new hot, young girls looking nice, clean, glammy like movie stars. I followed a hot one in a 1 piece blue dress. She disappeared into HK then came back to Chavelas, about 5'6 pretty, cheerful face, wavy brown hair, beautiful proportioned body, light skin, no tats. Pulled her to a table, bought her a drink to get to know her. She spoke enough English, from Monterrey with a long Spanish name which I could not figure out and remember. Her skin was smooth and soft like butter between her legs, her boobs were natural, springy, perky. I was trying to kiss her mouth but she would not do it. Her face was incredibly pretty.
Lots of HK girls were going to hotel with guys through Chavelas in a steady clip every minute. Most were average looking but they do hook guys for bed. Even the tiny Belen hooked guys. HK was doing much better than before CoVid.
My wingman was in Adelita. By that time I knew he was getting hungry and wanted to go to Mr. Pampas to gorge on all that good meats, so I had to take her up. She wanted $100 and would not budge. We walked out through Chavelas front door. I was hugging and kissing her face as she was taking off her dress, staring at that incredible beauty lying naked in bed , not even a single blemish on her light skin. I just had a large shrimp cocktail and a couple beers but had a quick erection just looking at that beautiful girl. She would not let me kiss or suck on her tiny pink tits, would not let my face near her sexy crotch with her clean -shaven kitty. She gave me a CBJ then got on top for a CG. Her pussy was wet and slippery. She was pumping but had no expressions. We switched to doggie then mish. It was very sexy squeezing her buttery soft body, driving into the tiny pussy, kissing her pretty face. She looked beautiful like a movie star. I was way excited, did not last long, pumping her furiously and got exhausted at the end. She was all quiet, did not say anything, refused to let me take pics or give me her tel, quietly rinsed off her crotch in the shower. We walked back down to Chavelas. I could not help myself, squeezing her fabulous boobs and her sexy butt on the way down.
It was not a passionate session, but it was worth seeing such a beautiful girl in bed. Would do her again with her beautiful good looks. It's easy to get addicted to Tijuana bars, looking for fresh talents. Had a good visit, flirting with hot girls, partying with the bros, a short but good, sexy, satisfying vacation like no other.
Captain Solo
06-14-21, 17:36
Gregyyr,
The mouth breeds far more germs than the dick or the pussy. Girls who would DFK would do far more sexy, intimate things in bed, potentially BBBJ and BBFS.
If she does not kiss you in the mouth in the bar, you should let her go and look for the next talent.
Saturday night went in HK about 7 PM. All floors and the hangar were open. The place was packed with guys and girls. You have to squeeze through crowds to go around the club. Combining HK, Chavelas and the Hangar, it was noisy and festive like a carnival with combined about 10,000 SF. There were more girls and far more hot new girls working than I have ever seen before, probably 120 to 150 floating around. All tables and booths were taken by groups with their bottle service. Could not find a place to sit. Lots of guys brought their hot, young GFs along to party. HK has turned into a huge carnival, a tourists' attraction for families and friends besides being just the hottest, most crowded and most successful putas bar in the world I have ever seen, well, except may be the now-defunct Help Disco at its height. Damn.
A series of average looking chicas was stripping non stop on the main stage. Their dances were ordinary but a group of Asians= guys with large stacks of dollar bills was raining tips from the balcony, creating a lot of excitement and drawing attention to themselves. The other HK girls were standing around gazing at the hub nub. There were probably jealous at the ordinary-looking strippers getting all that attention and money. The guys would make a lot more friends and gain a lot of gratitude by going around the club handing out tips to a lot of hot, young girls who wish to make a few bucks for the night.
The south stage and one in the Hangar both had a pair of girls rolling around in shaving foam, doing lesbian acts to very light audience. Girls were dancing on all bars, but most people were drawn to the main stage and fixated on it. In the Hangar, HK placed 6 girls to dance on the bar, all average-looking. the poor girls were dancing to no audience. Lot of groups of guys were sitting at tables, drinking without girls while 2 dozens or so girls were sitting forlornly by themselves.$100 for a cold HK mechanical starfish. Wish you have a name so that I can avoid her.
Captain Solo
06-14-21, 18:53
Jackie.
She was so beautiful, like a super model, knowing she may be a potential star fish, I just had to ravish her in bed. Where else in the world can you have sex with a hot young girl, almost a 10, for $100? Don't think she would get any warmer with me, so will not waste more money on her. Will look for other hot girls.
Tijuana's girls selection is so good, Tijuana is so close to So Cal, I would go down and fuck hot girls every chance I can sneak out.
Before going home late at night, had a long, hot, passionate session with street girl Jimena in front Carretta for $20. I was pumping her hard and fast for a long time. She was squeezing, clawing, gasping. Man, that girl looked hot, liked to fuck and was full of sexy expressions, a very good deal. Will give her a few bucks when I see her again.
Definitely would do her again after I do the other new hot girl sin the alley.
Ended up going twice this past month for a few days each, this is report #1.
Will try to keep it short and to the point.
Was trying to see if Captain was going to be down at the same time, but no dice. Sorry Captain! At least we linked up on the second trip.
Arrived in San Diego, use LYFT not Uber, half the price and it will take you 45 minutes just to find and Uber to get to the border. Once at the Border business as usual. They make you pay $30 for you Visa entry paper that is good for 6 months.
Once across taxi to HK $5, checked in, I got a single bed remodeled room. They did a good job on them, mirror on the ceiling cool lights. Only thing that sucked was one of the wall lamps had live current running through it so I couldn't reposition it. Oh well, what do you expect.
Meseros I recommend #45 Adrian from DF very stand up dude, and is not pushy and will get you what ever girl you want and he will go find one for you to your licking.
Also #71 Big dud with glasses Rafael I believe, also very cool guy not pushy at all, also very helpfull.
DAY1: Arrived on Monday around 4 pm I walked around HK some very good talent I was pleasantly surprised. I walked outside to check out the Paraditas. Not much to see, I did find a taller girl Rosmi standing by the back door in HK, she seemed nice and took her upstairs, $400 complete, she had a great body and very pretty face, everything covered, she could really take it hard. No complaints from her.
I got some tacos then took a nap. After the nap I went back downstairs after 8 and it was really full with girls. Checked out Adelitas and nothing that grabbed my attention. Headed back to HK and just sat and had some beers while shooing off the girls that straight up asked me to buy them a drink, after a little while I saw this really petite white girl with pretty face and great legs, she usually danced on the bar by the main entrance, I wish I remember her name. We talked for a while surprisingly good conversation and she was not chugging her drinks, after a little bit went upstairs and everything was covered she asked for 100 I told her 80 and she took that, very very spinner type but with good curves.
After I went back downstairs had a few more beers and I did't see anything that cough my attention so went to bed.
Day2: headed downstairs around 10:30-11 that's were I met Enni from DF, if you have seen her before you know she is amazing, she is from DF and speaks really good english, we hit it off and we were laughing of a while. Need up going upstairs and holly molly she is just amazing one of the best BJ I have had in Tijuana in a very very long time. After I was finished I asked her if she wanted to play with some toys I brought. I pulled the duo clit sucking and g spot vibrator, she fell in love with it so much that she couldn't walk afterwards. Took a little break. Bag went on and had some hard sex they way she asked me to. Both out of breath. We talked for a bit and asked her if she ever comes with clients she said sometimes but it is very rare. Since I did't want to disappoint I started fingering her, a bit harder at a time. Then full on hard Gspot fingering massage, she ended up squirting everywhere, she got super embarrassed and said that it was her first time. She was spent. Literally had to cuddle with her she had so much emotions going on. She had to sit there for little while unable to stand up.
Around the 45-50 minute mark we had a knock on the door from downstairs that time was up. This is the first time that this has ever happened in my own room not the short time room. Anyway we cleaned up and she went downstairs, I had to do some work so I stayed.
Went out to get some lunch came back around 4 pm, I found Ekaterina from Chihuahua, a TALL, super fit Fire redhead, not the fake color reed but true redhead, with some bolt ONS, her body was rocking! All natural besides the boobs, amazing big fit ass, great legs and super flat tight stomach, also her back was very well sculpted, she used to own her own gym before Covid, Anyways we sat in one of the booths and started talking and we hit it off, she does't drink so saved some money, I asked her what was on the menu she replies $100 everything you want covered, if I wanted extras she was oped to suggestions, too her upstairs, we both got cleaned up. I pulled out couple of my toys she immediately went for the sucking clit one. I showed her how to use it and she was coming / trembling in less than 5 minutes, she needed a few minutes to recover, I started to suck on her nipples she really liked it and likes it when you play with her tits hard. She put on the bag, CBJ, she actually almost made cum, then she told me to grab the back of her head and push it down my dick, who am I to say no. I fucked her mouth really hard! Tears coming out, I layed her on back and started fucking her hard, while I pulled her hair, she did like getting lightly chocked, she later told she usually never allows chocking, because you never know, but she felt comfortable with me. Then I put a dog collar on her and bed her over and did it doggy with some hard spanking. I asked her if we could do some backdoor stuff, she said of course if you give me a good tip. Sweet, I grabbed some lube and she guided my dick into her backdoor, it went in slowly and once in started pumping slowly and within a few minutes I was going full force in her ass, pulling her hair and everything, she came super hard and upper pussy area was trembling pretty hard for a few minutes.
Then it happened again about 45-50 minutes into the session another knock on the door that the time was up, in my own room. We cleaned up and she left. I asked her about the door knocking in my own room, she said the HK management is getting on all the girls cases and being very strict about everything, 150 fichas a week or they get reprimanded or fired. She mentioned they fired 80 girls the week before because they did and't make the fiche quota.
It was around 6:30 pm now went out to have quick dinner, got back to the area around 9 pm. Headed to Adelitas and as soon as I walk in this super cute black hair girl with HUGE fakes boobs grabs my dick and asks for a drink, so I bought her one, not much conversation just normal bullshit, I had no intention to go up so when she asked me to go up I told her BBBJ and culito for $80 thinking she was going to walk away but she agreed. Well, crap! LOL upstairs good deep BBBJ kinda short, then I told her to tittle fuck me because why not with those huge boobs, bag went on and she asked to give her in the cult first because she was really horny, I bent her over grabbed the lube and it took a little effort at first but once in she became possessed, kept telling me to give it harder! After 15 minutes of very hard back door action I took the condom off and finished on her tits. We had some minutes left so she kept on sucking and sucking got me hard again put on another condom and rode me in her front hole until she came. Not bad for $80.
Went back to my room got cleaned up took a nap and around 11:30 pm headed down, place was packed a lot more girls than guy and a lot of very good looking girls, another reason I like coming Mon and Tuesday, walked mourned had a few beers, sat at the foam show for a bit pay the girls $10 to used the double dildo and have them both go doggy at each other while I hold the middle part of the dildo, when in rome. I didn't see anything that cough my attention after that so I went to bed.
Day3: had some fast at Azul, went back upstairs my stomach wasn't feeling that well, took some medicine and rested for a bit, went down stairs and this girl just grabbed and sat me at the very corner booth where the big booths are next to main stage. Started to rub my dick, she seemed nice, it wasn't very busy yet in HK, mesero comes over we order a drink, before the mesero could come back with our beers she had my cock out with a condom on and she was fucking me in the middle of the club, it legit happened so fast that I didn't know what hit me. It kinda looked like she was giving me a hard lap dance bouncing up and down. I lasted less than 5 minutes. LOLOLOL. Mesero finally came back with the beers while I was still inside her. She got off and we both acted like nothing had happened. I gave her $50 and she was happy about it. We had a couple beers and chatted for a little while she was actually super cool chick, I wish I remember her name, she did have a few tattoos but just about half the girls do.
So after getting abused I went back to my roomed and got cleaned up. Took a nap since I wasn't feeling well.
Went back down mid afternoon and checked out the paraditas, I found this super short girl from veracruz with huge hair, 20 why / o, maybe 4' 7" 90 lbs if that, she wanted $350 from completo so we went, everything covered she actually had anamzing body, no kids super perky boobs, everything covered, took some hard doggy, it was actually one of the nicer girls in the street I had had.
Back to the room to clean up, had some tacos and back to HK, I bumped into Ekaterina again the Tall white skin redhead, we talked for a bit and she said she wanted to play with the sucking clit vibrator, so we went back up, and she dove for the toy, this time while she was playing I was fingering her backdoor at the same time, she really got into it, told me to grab a condom and put it in her ass while she was using the toy, I grabbed some lube and went right in the back door, now she had the dildo inner pussy while it also is sucking her clit and me balls deep in the back door, she was coming so hard the she had to push me off. LOL. We took a break and chatted, then switched condoms and she started riding reverse cow girl, and holly cow can she ride and her pale skin fit ass just looked amazing while I spanked her hard. I asked to switch hoes while she was riding me, she did with out even quesitoniong it, and seeing my dick going in out of her ass reverse cow girl was amazing. I then pushed her down prone and stared hammering her ass as hard and deep as I could, she grabbed the toy and shoved it in her vagina DP style again, we did this for about 20 minutes as her while I had my hand around her neck from behind, she came super hard that she actually took a 10 minute nap after and still couldn't stand up straight after that.
I was kinda spent so I relaxed, then went back down after a while I had been talking to this blonde super skinny with Vans stripper shoes for the last couple days just friendly conversation, I forget her name but she seemed cool. I bumped into her around 9 pm in HK she said she had made good money today, I asked her if she wanted to relax and just have a drink, she said yes please we talked and laughed for a while since she was not the clock anymore there was no pressure of fichas so she actually took her time to drink her beers. We hung out for about an hour and we had lots of fun in Miami room with other girls and other guys shooting the shit. Called it a night.
Day4: went down stairs around 11:00 ran into Enni and I told her I got totally abused yesterday by one of the girl in the middle of the floor, she laughed her ass off about it, we started drinking and we ended going up. AMAZING BJ, she really gets into it. Some sex, then I pulled out the toy and she went nuts, she was coming in less than 3 minutes. She came a few times before she no mas. LOL,
Then that knock on the door came again around the 45 minute mark that the time was up, again it happened in my own room and not in the short time places. What the hell is going on?
We cleaned up and she left. I took a nap then had some lunch, went back to HK and I ran into a girl with lots of tattoos her name was Rose, she may look like a hood rat but she is super sweet and funny, lots of energy! We had some beers and talked for a little bit, we went up $100 with backdoor, this girl is a total nympho!! Likes it hard and rough, and she will ride you hard and spit you back out. Really love backdoor she came 3 times from it like eye balls rolled back and everything.
Took a nap, and went to dinner, I decided to go to Adelitas to see if there was talent. When I walked in on the pole there was a tall thin Morena with bolt on and a huge smile I forget her name but it was something Japanese! I waited till she was done and she disappeared to the back oh well. Walked around for a while got a beer that's when I saw her again, by the main bar in the back, we started chatting, and her smile was even bigger, she went on the say that she just came back from ensenada and was horny. LOL. I told her BBBJ, culito and for 1 HR, just trying to see if the same magic worked on all Adelitas girls. She said $200 usd, I told 120 and propina for the full hour, she agreed and off we went, payed double for the room since it is per 30 minutes, oh well. She stared with deep BBBJ, grabbed the condom rode me hard then reverse cow she told me downstairs she is multiorgasmic and I can definitely tell you she came a couple times riding me her pussy would just start squeezing my dick when she came, it was pretty cool, missionary for deep her pounding till both out of breath, took a break then she said grab the lube! She was super super suers tight backdoor, she hadn't don't it in over a year, took a little effort to get in there but once in and she got relaxed it was off to the races, she was face down and I just started hammering her back door and had and deep, did that for about 20 minutes when I was going to come pulled the cover off finished in her mouth and she swallowed. We laughed for a bit after, we got cleaned up and that was it for the night.
Checked out the next morning and that was for trip one.
Captain Solo
06-14-21, 23:15
Zhag.
You had a busy visit. Glad you had a very sexy time.
Rose or Estefanie from Guadalajara, with lots of colorful tats, is a very sexy girl. One of my wingmen is in love with her. She had twin boys about a year before CoVid and she works hard to provide for them.
The tiny 4 ' 80 Lbs girl in front of Carretta is Michel. She has big, curly black hair on her head and a jungle down below in her crotch. She's so tiny but loves a hard pounding in bed.
Guys do screw girls in dark corners of the club when it's not too crowded. It's too kinky for me. I would rather go to the hotel room for the girls to get out of their clothes. But what perverts wants, perverts do. Can't stop them.
A few new guys want to try anal. Good to know HK girls would do them. Glad you had a good time.
Girl with lots of tattoos her name was Rose, she may look like a hood rat but she is super sweet and funny, lots of energy! We had some beers and talked for a little bit, we went up $100 with backdoor, this girl is a total nympho!! Likes it hard and rough, and she will ride you hard and spit you back out. Really love backdoor she came 3 times from it like eye balls rolled back and everything.
Captain Solo
06-14-21, 23:54
I think this is the clit sucking, pussy vibrating toy Zhag had HK girls pop big time and got addicted to.
Got to buy me one hehe.
https://www.bboutique.co/sex-toys/womens-vibrators/clit-suction-vibrators/buzzfeed-airvibe-4839003029613?nosto=60c7d361876354382f08db0a&nosto_source=cmp
That's odd with them bugging you in your own room. I just stayed and brought a girl to my room with no discussion of her staying all night but after we had sex she just cuddled up and went to sleep. Was never bugged with any knocks at all.
Evening fellas,
Making my first trip solo in early July! Think the first time I read reports here was +5 years ago off some Reddit thread and haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Wouldn't mind a wingman if anyone's there and wants to PM me (late 20's if you care).
Planning to split my time be / w HK and agencies. About to book the Quartz hotel / spa, a little pricey but seems like a good location. Unless someone has a better recommendation? I don't think I could handle the constant temptation / noise staying at HK or Cascades LOL. Thanks for all the tips!
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Hey,
I'm going to Tijuana tomorrow for the first time, for dentist, and want to go to HK after. I am not going to stay the night so I won't have a room, how does it work. Do the girls have their own room and is it included in the price? How much do you tip people normally and for what?
Captain Solo
06-15-21, 17:55
Baba,
Girls do not take guys to their own rooms. You have to rent a ST room for each session.
HK / Chavelas girls typically want $80-100 for a 30 min session with $21 for Cascada's ST room plus a few $1 tips for HK's robe guy and $1 after for cleaning.
Street girls typically want 500 pesos ($25), many would go to the same Cascada's ST rooms but it costs only $6 for street girls, plus $1 tip for cleaning.
Many street girls have to use the hotels in the alley where they work in front, most cost $6 for 30 minutes and are fairly clean, except El Porton which always smells like shit because chicas squirt on the bed and they never wash and change sheets. Damn stupid, filthy assholes running hotel El Porton.
Hotels' cleanliness is in this order: Cascada, Coahuila, Carretta, Ibiza, Garcia, Mini, Edouardo, Rapido, Michoacan, Korea. The rest of the fuck hotels are very filthy and grimy with foul, rotting sheets, soiled walls.
Something similar to that, mine also had a warming feature that warmed up the insertion part as well as vibration also it's water proof, Enni gave me the nick name Toy story because all the toy I bring with me. Apparently I got a reputation thenext trip I came down for 3 weeks later other girls had heard of me by that nick name. LOL.
I think this is the clit sucking, pussy vibrating toy Zhag had HK girls pop big time and got addicted to.
Got to buy me one hehe.
https://www.bboutique.co/sex-toys/womens-vibrators/clit-suction-vibrators/buzzfeed-airvibe-4839003029613?nosto=60c7d361876354382f08db0a&nosto_source=cmp
Hey,
I'm going to Tijuana tomorrow for the first time, for dentist, and want to go to HK after. I am not going to stay the night so I won't have a room, how does it work. Do the girls have their own room and is it included in the price? How much do you tip people normally and for what?Dude, seriously. RTFF. This has only been discussed roughly 10 million times.
Big Magick
06-16-21, 08:40
So my first visit was 2 months ago and I've already been 4 times. For me, the best experiences are with some kissing, idc about BBFS. So what's the best way to see if she does?
AmericanPi
06-16-21, 14:52
Girls will throw themselves at you. Don't buy them drinks. Choose who you like. Agree on price and what's included before you say "ok let's go. " The girl will lead you upstairs. Tip the guy who gives her a robe 1 dollar. Pay 20 for the room and condom. Bang. Tip the guy who cleans your room after 1 dollar. Go downstairs and drink.
Honestly, don't worry. If you knew none of this, this is their business. This is all they do. It's hard to not figure it out.
Hey,
I'm going to Tijuana tomorrow for the first time, for dentist, and want to go to HK after. I am not going to stay the night so I won't have a room, how does it work. Do the girls have their own room and is it included in the price? How much do you tip people normally and for what?
Captain Solo
06-16-21, 17:25
Big Magick.
I like to kiss too. The wet kiss is far more intimate, sensuous and loving than other sex acts. It's the primal survival instinct that drives babies to suck hungrily at their moms' tits for nutrition and stay with men and women all their lives.
To reduce costs and maximize probability of lip kissing, LFK or DFK in the room, you should walk around the club looking for girls you like and gradually escalate your physical encroachment. Sidle up to her, smile sweetly, ask her name and her health like you really care, squeeze propinas into her boobs and crotches to feel her physical reactions. If she doesn't pull back but move closer, smile and touch you, she's not repulsed to you physically and will give you an intimate session. Invite her to a booth, buy her a few fichas, grope her all over, nibble her ears, kiss her mouth. If she's receptive and responsive to all those sexual assaults, she will give you good, intimate, all out session in bed. If she drinks real liquor, buy her a few more fichas to soften her up. Some girls go to work hungry so offer them snacks.
In the room, offer her more tequila shots or beers in the fridge. Most girls will loosen up, get horny, uninhibitive with drinks and will do a lot of wild, loving things with you. Most HK girls are young, tender and scared, not hardened machines unless you treat them that way. Don't expect them to get turned on quickly by your charms and get sexually attracted to you immediately. They need some time to feel you out and get aroused for hot sex. Fichas and courting work well with these young girls. You should approach them slowly and enjoy the courting process.
KC Questor
06-16-21, 19:14
So my first visit was 2 months ago and I've already been 4 times. For me, the best experiences are with some kissing, idc about BBFS. So what's the best way to see if she does?Spend time with them in the bar. Buy them drinks so you can flirt and chat with them for a bit. Use that interaction to decide if they are playful and friendly. Is she kissing you in the booth? If not, she may just be shy. Ask her directly about rules, and if she will kiss in the room. "Besos con lengua?" If you want BBBJ, ask her directly if that's included. "Oral sin condom?
So many guys hire a girl and when she doesn't do what he wants he feels like he has thrown away his money. Ask her in advance if you want something specific. Do you want to lick her pussy? Fuck her in the ass? Cum on her face? Just ask her! If she says no, or charges more, you can decide if you still want to give her your money or look for someone else.
KC Questor
06-16-21, 19:19
Don't buy them drinks.Going to disagree with this one. Sure, buying non-stop drinks at $10 each can really raise the cost of a session. But one or two drinks are a great way to determine if a girl is going to be fun or a dead starfish in the room. Unless all you care about is fucking a hot girl and don't worry about service, it's worth 10-20 bucks to spend 30 minutes evaluating the girl. Remember that this includes time flirting in the booth, including full touching and probably her dancing for you. For less than half the cost of a single song lap dance at a US strip club, you can have her grinding on your lap for half an hour. If the girl isn't fun in the booth, she probably won't be fun in the room.
Agree on price and what's included before you say "ok let's go. " The girl will lead you upstairs. Tip the guy who gives her a robe 1 dollar. Pay 20 for the room and condom. Bang. Tip the guy who cleans your room after 1 dollar. Go downstairs and drink.
Honestly, don't worry. If you knew none of this, this is their business. This is all they do. It's hard to not figure it out.
The rest of the post is spot on.
Kevinhokage89
06-16-21, 20:40
Thanks for all the informative posts contributed on this board. It's been helpful, but I am curious if I have my own room booked, do I still need to go through the robe check in process? How secure is the hotel with keeping valuable such as passports? Thanks in advance.
I agree! 1-2 drinks really helps you rule out which girls will be best once you go up. They usually relax and are more comfortable and are willing to do dirtier shit since they got to "know" you a little better. Nothing worse than a dead fish once you get upstairs
Going to disagree with this one. Sure, buying non-stop drinks at $10 each can really raise the cost of a session. But one or two drinks are a great way to determine if a girl is going to be fun or a dead starfish in the room. Unless all you care about is fucking a hot girl and don't worry about service, it's worth 10-20 bucks to spend 30 minutes evaluating the girl. Remember that this includes time flirting in the booth, including full touching and probably her dancing for you. For less than half the cost of a single song lap dance at a US strip club, you can have her grinding on your lap for half an hour. If the girl isn't fun in the booth, she probably won't be fun in the room.
The rest of the post is spot on..
So my first visit was 2 months ago and I've already been 4 times. For me, the best experiences are with some kissing, idc about BBFS. So what's the best way to see if she does?Easy. During the evaluation process, IE: When you are sitting with her drinking the 9 dollar drink you bought for her and your 5 dollar beer, gauge the chemistry. Touch her, try to kiss her, see how much eye contact she is giving you. Is she touching you unprovoked? Is she kissing you? Does she act interested? You need to see how she responds to you. A good chemistry check can be well worth the 15 dollars spent to predict a good 80-100 dollar session. If you are in to DFK, this would be easy to ensure from the floor vetting process.
Big Magick
06-17-21, 08:50
Great advice, I was thinking of a similar approach but wanted to hear it from a pro. I like the way you think. Hopefully I run into you someday at HK!
LuvMexicanas
06-17-21, 21:11
Gregyyr,
The mouth breeds far more germs than the dick or the pussy. Girls who would DFK would do far more sexy, intimate things in bed, potentially BBBJ and BBFS.
If she does not kiss you in the mouth in the bar, you should let her go and look for the next talent.But you didn't get kisses on the mouth from a chica yet took her up anyway, which ended in a not so passionate session in your words.
Captain Solo
06-18-21, 01:19
Lots of girls would do DFK in the bar with a ficha. Usually they would also allow DATY.
But if asked, a few would decline. I would let them go, but with the very beautiful girls, 9 on the scale, I would yield to their restrictions just to have sex with them. I can't win every time.
If you buy fichas and have repeat sessions, even the most difficult girls would eventually open to DFKs, DATY, BBBJ may be even BBFS.
Ironic to think the mouth is more dirty than the pussy. Guess I need to do more french kissing between her legs.
G.
https://www.thehealthsite.com/photo-gallery/beauty-your-healthy-vagina-is-cleaner-than-your-mouth-4-other-body-parts-t0516-397761/belly-button-397764
But you didn't get kisses on the mouth from a chica yet took her up anyway, which ended in a not so passionate session in your words.
Great advice. And so true. I have made the mistake of falling in love with a girls body or how she moves but then took her upstairs and there was no chemistry and not a good experience. Or she was too controlling. You can tell this by flirting with her downstairs first and see what she lets you do.
Easy. During the evaluation process, IE: When you are sitting with her drinking the 9 dollar drink you bought for her and your 5 dollar beer, gauge the chemistry. Touch her, try to kiss her, see how much eye contact she is giving you. Is she touching you unprovoked? Is she kissing you? Does she act interested? You need to see how she responds to you. A good chemistry check can be well worth the 15 dollars spent to predict a good 80-100 dollar session. If you are in to DFK, this would be easy to ensure from the floor vetting process.
Will see what others recommend but I got a passport card which is the size of a credit card so it's so easy to just put in your wallet or pocket. Make sure and make a copy of your passport to also keep around or maybe take a picture so incase you loose it, getting out of Tijuana will be easier.
I would just keep it with me but curious if Cascadas has lock boxes?
Thanks for all the informative posts contributed on this board. It's been helpful, but I am curious if I have my own room booked, do I still need to go through the robe check in process? How secure is the hotel with keeping valuable such as passports? Thanks in advance.
Girls don't have their own room but most have designated hotels they work at right next to the clubs. When talking to the girls just ask them where they go. Cascadas is the best next to HK. But there are many others to choose from that could work as well.
Dude, seriously. RTFF. This has only been discussed roughly 10 million times.
Jackie.
She was so beautiful, like a super model, knowing she may be a potential star fish, I just had to ravish her in bed. Where else in the world can you have sex with a hot young girl, almost a 10, for $100? Don't think she would get any warmer with me, so will not waste more money on her. Will look for other hot girls.
Tijuana's girls selection is so good, Tijuana is so close to So Cal, I would go down and fuck hot girls every chance I can sneak out.
Before going home late at night, had a long, hot, passionate session with street girl Jimena in front Carretta for $20. I was pumping her hard and fast for a long time. She was squeezing, clawing, gasping. Man, that girl looked hot, liked to fuck and was full of sexy expressions, a very good deal. Will give her a few bucks when I see her again.
Definitely would do her again after I do the other new hot girl sin the alley.Is Jacky like very white and speaks english with a sweeky voice? Did she work at azul as a waitress?
Twice in a row I have seen many hot young available girls in the Morning at 10 AM on Friday. There are not as many girls as night time but there is very few guys.
Last week I saw these two hotties.
Probably not going to get the $60 deals I know a lot of guys trying to get from HK girls but do not need to pay $100 for a smoking hot girl who will provide great service.
Baby. Not the same girl as the Baby I met two years ago in the morning just as hot. Dark hair and beautiful body. Almost perfect body. Nothing man made with good sized young firm boobies. Her and I had a lot of fun.
Honey. Just as beautiful dark hair girl. Not as big beasts but natural and young. She was busy first time I saw her but after getting cleaned up from Baby she was available. Watching her beautful body move while I lick her pussy is one reason I lick the pussy. Once I got past a certain point the changes came to the clit that tell a pro pussy licker I was doing the right things. Certain as I can be about anything Honey had a big time O. I am still thinking about this hot young lady a week later.
Captain Solo
06-19-21, 05:17
SeaBeeJoe.
Her name is not Jacky, a very long and rare Mexican name.
There is a Jacko or Jaqui, tall light skin with glasses. Have not seen her for months.
Twice in a row I have seen many hot young available girls in the Morning at 10 AM on Friday. There are not as many girls as night time but there is very few guys.
Last week I saw these two hotties.
Probably not going to get the $60 deals I know a lot of guys trying to get from HK girls but do not need to pay $100 for a smoking hot girl who will provide great service.
Baby. Not the same girl as the Baby I met two years ago in the morning just as hot. Dark hair and beautiful body. Almost perfect body. Nothing man made with good sized young firm boobies. Her and I had a lot of fun.
Honey. Just as beautiful dark hair girl. Not as big beasts but natural and young. She was busy first time I saw her but after getting cleaned up from Baby she was available. Watching her beautful body move while I lick her pussy is one reason I lick the pussy. Once I got past a certain point the changes came to the clit that tell a pro pussy licker I was doing the right things. Certain as I can be about anything Honey had a big time O. I am still thinking about this hot young lady a week later.So, how much did you pay for those two HK girls? $80?
SeaBeeJoe.
Her name is not Jacky, a very long and rare Mexican name.
There is a Jacko or Jaqui, tall light skin with glasses. Have not seen her for months.Ahh thanks Captain, I am. Trying to find another petite spinner I had several month ago I met on the 7th flloor. She keep saying she is working nights but I never see her, I guess another bro or bros are keeping her busy.
Captain Solo
06-20-21, 21:56
Saturday weather was hot, 82 F, got in HK with 2 other ISG bros about 4 PM. The club was already crowded. Lots of guys and girls were milling around. All booths around the main stage were taken by reserved bottle services.
Us 3 got a table next to the South stage and sat for a couple drinks. A couple hot spinners were stripping. Emma was a tall, beautiful girl with a sweet, pretty face full of pleasant, loving expressions, shapely, proportioned body with light skin, nice natural be boobs, long, sexy legs. She's one of the prettiest and nicest girls in HK. I always like her but have not seen her in 2 or 3 years. She came back looking just as pretty and sweet as before. Another spinner was Lady, pretty face with nice, natural body, light skin, perky A cups.
3 hot, young civies in street clothes showed up at the South stage, laying down dollar bills for Emma, giggling excitedly like little girls. By the looks, they were not lesbians, not interested sexually in the strippers, only playing. The tiniest spinner in the middle was very pretty and fun, smiling, giggling, playing with the strippers. Her other friend was also nice and tight with a pretty face. The last one was heavier, seemed a little glum but doable.
The tiny spinner in the middle was very cute. I started smiling, winking and flirting with her. She was smiling and winking back. The bros looked at them and said only one was hot, whatever. After 5 minutes, the girls sent a mesero over, said the girls wanted to know if we would buy them drinks. After a brief consultation with the bros, I sent the mesero back to ask if the girls were HK girls or not. The mesero came back confirmed the girls were civies, not HK girls. I gestured to invite them to our booth and sent the mesero back to invite them over. Mesero came back, said the girls wanted us to buy them drinks first. The bros again said only one girl was worth it, also it was hard to fit 6 of us into that tiny booth with 2 bros appearing uninterested, so we passed. The girls stayed another 5 minutes then went away to other parts of the club.
About half hour later we were sitting at Kowloon bar watching strippers on the main stage. The bros had plied me with a couple tequila shots and a few beers, so I was starting to have the buzz. I was flirting with a pretty Asian girl sitting with an old guy across the room, but she just ignored me, staring straight ahead like she was afraid of pissing off her partner. The 3 civies came to the bar, standing there waiting for the bar tender. Apparently nobody took their companies or bought them drinks. I came over talking to the 2 skinny girls, offered to buy them drinks; they agreed. While waiting for the bar tender to bring the drinks I was hugging and feeling the 2 hot girls. They were both tight and firm, feeling good, smelling good. Man, I got a quick boner for these nice, clean civies. I was trying to steer the other 2 girls to my wingmen. I would buy these girls all their drinks with any prospects of taking them upstairs for a hot session.
The bar tender brought the beers and was about to pop them when a mesero came over, talking to the girls and the bar tender. Apparently some unknown guys in the other side of the club had a booth and wanted to buy them drinks. The girls talked and wanted to go to the booth. Damn. I was disappointed. We should have shooed away the dumb mesero and took the girls to the Hangar where we could find large booths easily. But it happened so quick I was unable to act quickly and decisively and the girls walked away with the mesero. Damn. I kicked myself for not acting quickly, but sexy, sweet-smiling Emma was also a factor in the delay.
On the drive down I was talking to my wingman, a very nice, caring, responsible, upright guy. He wants his own children but is gun shy with aggressive, greedy and entitled women in Socal. He's been thinking seriously about having his own children by finding a hot girl friend with blond hair, blue eye in Ukraine, Eastern Europe or even the Southern US states, where girls are known as pretty, soft, sweet and sexy, unlike Norternas.
He speaks perfect Spanish but needs to develop flirting skills and practice them with girls in HK, especially with young girls in civie clubs. Will go clubbing with him soon. Will have to stay overnight and go in a group of 2 or 3 as girls tend to go in groups and are difficult to break up. Will flirt and party with the girls and develop some friendships at least. We only need a few parties with girls to learn skills, practice approaches and develop strength to seduce civies.
In the meantime, I am still encouraging him to pursue hot, sensuous, beautiful, noncommercial Southern US girls via social media, Facebook, Tinder, CL Missed Encounter, dating sites ect.
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Captain Solo
06-21-21, 01:09
I have been looking for spinner Roma I met on 7th floor a few months back. Her face is the prettiest and sweetest, with nice, fun personality too.
Have not seen her in HK. Any bro knows how to find Roma please let me know.
Saturday weather was hot, 82 F, got in HK with 2 other ISG bros about 4 PM. The club was already crowded. Lots of guys and girls were milling around. All booths around the main stage were taken by reserved bottle services.
Us 3 got a table next to the South stage and sat for a couple drinks. A couple hot spinners were stripping. Emma was a tall, beautiful girl with a sweet, pretty face full of pleasant, loving expressions, shapely, proportioned body with light skin, nice natural be boobs, long, sexy legs. She's one of the prettiest and nicest girls in HK. I always like her but have not seen her in 2 or 3 years. She came back looking just as pretty and sweet as before. Another spinner was Lady, pretty face with nice, natural body, light skin, perky A cups.
3 hot, young civies in street clothes showed up at the South stage, laying down dollar bills for Emma, giggling excitedly like little girls. By the looks, they were not lesbians, not interested sexually in the strippers, only playing. The tiniest spinner in the middle was very pretty and fun, smiling, giggling, playing with the strippers. Her other friend was also nice and tight with a pretty face. The last one was heavier, seemed a little glum but doable..I don't know why but for some perverted reason, a civi in a club gets me super horney. Once I had the biggest boner for a super fat lesbian that was a civi even though I would never a second look in public. I need to get my head examined.
Dcrist0527
06-21-21, 19:02
I don't know why but for some perverted reason, a civi in a club gets me super horney. Once I had the biggest boner for a super fat lesbian that was a civi even though I would never a second look in public. I need to get my head examined.I know what you mean, Jackie. A few months ago, I was on the 7th floor. There was a civie over the top flirting with me. She flashed me a few times. I wasn't even sure how to react. Specifically, is there a p4 p expectation. I was going to wing it but she was with this very large dude that could have punched me down to the 4th floor. LOL he wasn't paying her a bit of attention and would have never noticed. He was spending wads of cash on 4 strippers that were all too happy to take his money. But I was not interested in taking that chance. I regret it but sometimes, rarely, but sometimes the big head wins.
Captain Solo
06-21-21, 20:24
Sometimes women want platonic friends to escort them into the club, as some strip clubs will not allow unattached women to go in due to competition with their own inventories. You just have to flirt with them, if she is open, she will let you know.
But HK allows all kinds of girls and women in groups, not sure about solo women, to enter, except a few problematic ones. Groups of women and obvious lesbians group in and have fun every week.
A couple months ago the 7th floor speakeasy was cramped, so I asked to sit next to a couple, Asian woman drinking with a black guy. Bought her a beer and talked to her, a pinay married a guy, moved to the US then divorced, living in SD. She was bored during CoVid shutdown, heard about the sexy funs in HGK and asked the guy to escort her. She said the guy is just a platonic friend. She told him to go ahead and go with any HK girl but he did not make a move. She told me she's unmarried and open for relationship, looking at me deeply, implying she's open for sex. I just got in so wanted to spend some time scoping out HK talents, did no want to waste a session with a freebie, heavier with a big but, not very pretty in the face.
So just move right in and make friends with any women. If friendship leads to instant sex then it's Allah's will hehe. I am still waiting for my turn with the 21 virgins in heaven hehe.
El Guerito
06-22-21, 13:42
I have been looking for spinner Roma I met on 7th floor a few months back. Her face is the prettiest and sweetest, with nice, fun personality too.
Have not seen her in HK. Any bro knows how to find Roma please let me know.I have not seen her in a while either, but I took her arriba once in HK / Cascadas after the bar re-opened. After the bar re-opened this year, I think she was working for two or three weeks and then she left for her hometown. She said she would be returning, but I haven't seen her since. She is very pretty and sweet and had a really nice session with her.
BTW Captain, you and I must be Eskimo Brothers nearly 10 times over. We've gone with many of the same girls. Estephanie de GDL from Chavelas, Lucy from Tijuana, Frida, Paola HK / SG, SG Sara, and I'm sure others that I can't recall right now.
We'll have to ask them who is better in bed, you or me. Ha ha.
Cheers.
I don't know why but for some perverted reason, a civi in a club gets me super horney. Once I had the biggest boner for a super fat lesbian that was a civi even though I would never a second look in public. I need to get my head examined.I get the same feeling when I see a hot sexy mesera bar waitress. I guess it's the feeling of taking a chick that's technically not a puta and banging her out like she's a total puta.
I used to have a chica I met at tropical she would come by my place and I usually would tell her to bring an amiga for me to bang. She brought me this one chick who was like a librarian or some shit. She was hot, a pretty white girl with an awesome athletic body, but she was nerdy and really shy. This girl was totally not a puta and obviously had no idea how to be a puta. She was good in bed but I could tell she wasn't exactly sure what the hell was going on. She also seemed like she had very little sexual experience. I don't know what the heck my chica told her to convince her to come fuck me but it seemed like the girl thought she was becoming my girlfriend or something. I don't know, it was a bit awkward. I wish I wouldn't have lost that chick's number. But yea banging out non-putas as if they're putas is always a good time. It feels like you're doing something forbidden that you're not supposed to be doing.
Captain Solo
06-22-21, 19:28
Guerito,
Damn. With hundreds hot girls working in Hong Kong, eventually we are all Eskimo brothers hehe.
You won't believe how the noobs remember all names and descriptions of hot HK girls I mentioned. These guys read ISG everyday like the Koran hehe.
Based on info in ISG they all want to try those hot girls. Frieda has a smooth, lithe, sexy body, long sexy legs, nice perky, natural boobs, pretty face and lots of feminine charms. She dyed her hair blue and I just hated that artificial looks, but it's brown again, looks more natural. She was dancing on the bar last Saturday and the noobs were gazing at her without blinking for hours hehe. It's amazing how much guys want to read about specific girls, so do post all juicy details individually.
I hope to find Roma again. Youi have her tel? Look me up in HK. Will buy you a few drinks.
I get the same feeling when I see a hot sexy mesera bar waitress. I guess it's the feeling of taking a chick that's technically not a puta and banging her out like she's a total puta.
I used to have a chica I met at tropical she would come by my place and I usually would tell her to bring an amiga for me to bang. She brought me this one chick who was like a librarian or some shit. She was hot, a pretty white girl with an awesome athletic body, but she was nerdy and really shy. This girl was totally not a puta and obviously had no idea how to be a puta. She was good in bed but I could tell she wasn't exactly sure what the hell was going on. She also seemed like she had very little sexual experience. I don't know what the heck my chica told her to convince her to come fuck me but it seemed like the girl thought she was becoming my girlfriend or something. I don't know, it was a bit awkward. I wish I wouldn't have lost that chick's number. But yea banging out non-putas as if they're putas is always a good time. It feels like you're doing something forbidden that you're not supposed to be doing.The non putas for me are too clingy. I like the paid ones bc they know the deal. Sometimes the paid 6/10 turn me on bc they tend to be the best fucks with the right touch. Especially after a few let downs from the 8-9's.
LuvMexicanas
06-22-21, 20:18
The non putas for me are too clingy. I like the paid ones bc they know the deal. Sometimes the paid 6/10 turn me on bc they tend to be the best fucks with the right touch. Especially after a few let downs from the 8-9's.Listen up newbies, as these are words of wisdom.
Big Magick
06-23-21, 13:10
Inside at 11 pm and it was busy compared to a previous Tuesday. I was on the hunt for a GFE session. My last four were mechanical interactions and I was craving better. I didn't want to sacrifice looks for a good time and managed to find a petite girl, cute face, just my type. I learned my lesson from previous nights and I now vet the girls before taking them arriba.
First girl was great, second best experience in the zona so far but it still left me wanting more.
Took a 30 min break and the hunt continued.
On the chavelas side I found a girl that gave me an amazing experience. We hit it off after one drink.
We went upstairs at 1 am and didn't leave till almost 3 am. I only paid for 30 min. The sex was an amazing GFE and after we just laid there and talked about life. I swear these girls in the zona are doing the lord's work.
El Guerito
06-23-21, 17:31
Cap'and I didn't get her # but will post here if I see her back in town. Yes, Frieda looks much prettier with brown hair.
Nos vemos pronto Cap'n. Gracias.
Captain Solo
06-23-21, 17:57
Big Magick.
Occasionally you will find a few Chavelas girls who are nice, sweet, gentle, sexy who give far more satisfying sessions in bed than cold, ornery, stuck up HK girls.
I wish they would take their masks off, stand up and walk around so I can see them more clearly to make some friends.
KeepTheFun
06-23-21, 18:19
Good report. Thanks for sharing your fun experience. From my experience girls will stay longer on Mon night and Tue night if they like you or know you from before. Few times it was early in the morning and the girl slept in my room after long session and just paid for 30 minutes and good tip. If you have VIP the room almost free. Some girls told me they have to work during the week to be able to work Sat and Fri so you will find some 8 and 9 on Tue. Less likely on Monday. In general girls are less rushing downstairs and upstairs and more likely to agree to $80 unless she is a 9+.
Inside at 11 pm and it was busy compared to a previous Tuesday. I was on the hunt for a GFE session. My last four were mechanical interactions and I was craving better. I didn't want to sacrifice looks for a good time and managed to find a petite girl, cute face, just my type. I learned my lesson from previous nights and I now vet the girls before taking them arriba.
First girl was great, second best experience in the zona so far but it still left me wanting more.
Took a 30 min break and the hunt continued.
On the chavelas side I found a girl that gave me an amazing experience. We hit it off after one drink.
We went upstairs at 1 am and didn't leave till almost 3 am. I only paid for 30 min. The sex was an amazing GFE and after we just laid there and talked about life. I swear these girls in the zona are doing the lord's work.
KeepTheFun
06-23-21, 19:07
I am sure some good-looking guys got nice sessions from non putas. I agree it feels different when you do them too. For me, I go to HK to avoid girls with GPS in a normal bar. Some HK girls have GPS but you know with $100 MAX you can have her in your bed with open legs. Seeing a girl with GPS with legs open worth $100 sometimes. I prefer GFE sessions but I consider doing GPS girls once in awhile as therapy fees and not to have them stuck in my head LOL.
The non putas for me are too clingy. I like the paid ones bc they know the deal. Sometimes the paid 6/10 turn me on bc they tend to be the best fucks with the right touch. Especially after a few let downs from the 8-9's.
Big Magick
06-24-21, 12:19
Mongers be careful of the girls with masks! I've been burned talking to girls or even buying them drinks only to be disappointed when the mask comes off. Also how risky is eating a HK girls pussy? You obviously end up with her body fluids in your mouth but I love to eat the kitty.
Brought a friend / girl last Weekend to HK for first time. Her eyes were quite opened as she watched the soap show. She slapped one of the girls on the ass and gave her a little tip.
It was a bit loud for her and we had one drink but she was worried about the line back to the USA at the border so she took off after about 15 minutes. She did say she wants to go again! Her Spanish is very good and she didn't get a chance to talk to any of the girls so hope to bring her back sometime.
Hey Cap, what religion in the 21 virgin's in heaven?
Sometimes women want platonic friends to escort them into the club, as some strip clubs will not allow unattached women to go in due to competition with their own inventories. You just have to flirt with them, if she is open, she will let you know.
But HK allows all kinds of girls and women in groups, not sure about solo women, to enter, except a few problematic ones. Groups of women and obvious lesbians group in and have fun every week.
A couple months ago the 7th floor speakeasy was cramped, so I asked to sit next to a couple, Asian woman drinking with a black guy. Bought her a beer and talked to her, a pinay married a guy, moved to the US then divorced, living in SD. She was bored during CoVid shutdown, heard about the sexy funs in HGK and asked the guy to escort her. She said the guy is just a platonic friend. She told him to go ahead and go with any HK girl but he did not make a move. She told me she's unmarried and open for relationship, looking at me deeply, implying she's open for sex. I just got in so wanted to spend some time scoping out HK talents, did no want to waste a session with a freebie, heavier with a big but, not very pretty in the face.
So just move right in and make friends with any women. If friendship leads to instant sex then it's Allah's will hehe. I am still waiting for my turn with the 21 virgins in heaven hehe.
Captain Solo
06-25-21, 02:36
Gregyr,
Is your friend hot?
HK and La Zone are all about fun and sex. You can leave your friend with me. I can show her how much fun and carnal pleasures she has been missing.
Follow the prophet Mohammed and he will quickly lead you to the 21 virgins. But you may not be able to come back to HK in one piece after that.
According to information from another source, all girls and employees at the Hong Kong club were vaccinated on Monday June 21 with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine against Covid.
This is my first time posting.
I went to HK Friday night and had a bad experience with this girl named lore or Lorena from Sinaloa, she has a really nice natural ass, very pretty long curly hair, a nice natural and proportionate body over all, face was so so. She was very mechanical and cold, straight to the business. She kept asking me all the time if I was done already. Switching positions constantly just to try to make Me cum faster. She wouldn't let me kiss any part of her body. She asked me to pay her up front and I said, half now half once we're done and she just laughed ironically.
In a way it was worth it because I was really attracted to her but oh boy, I should've gone with my gut because deep down I knew it was going to be a bad session. I was very disappointed. First bad experience.
Stay away from Lorena boys, stay away.
Gregyr,
Is your friend hot?
HK and La Zone are all about fun and sex. You can leave your friend with me. I can show her how much fun and carnal pleasures she has been missing.
Follow the prophet Mohammed and he will quickly lead you to the 21 virgins. But you may not be able to come back to HK in one piece after that.Haha. Sorry. She it a bit older (like me) so not so hot but really nice personality!
I remember Howard Stern having the "buttface" competition. Girls with great bodies but not so pretty.
If you believe in NDE's after death many people have vivid memories of their past life. I don't want to cause any karma but it could be interesting to see a review of some of my mongering history in vivid detail.
If I can find Kaloon maybe will see y'all tonight.
Rookie1255
06-26-21, 15:26
Looking into flying into San Diego since it's cheaper than TIJ. Online it looks like there's a bridge (Cross Border Xpress) that allows you to cross the border right into TIJ. From there would an Uber to Cascadas be a reasonable way to get there?
Seems like this would be an efficient way to cross the border back and forth with minimal lines and also save on airfare, but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Has anyone used this service before?
AmorPorFavor
06-26-21, 17:04
According to information from another source, all girls and employees at the Hong Kong club were vaccinated on Monday June 21 with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine against Covid.I believe that is true. I was there on Monday afternoon and after my session the chica made a phone call in the room and said that she was going right then to get vaccinated. My wingman's chica also told him that she was getting vaccinated that day.
Dcrist0527
06-26-21, 19:52
This is my first time posting.
I went to HK Friday night and had a bad experience with this girl named lore or Lorena from Sinaloa, she has a really nice natural ass, very pretty long curly hair, a nice natural and proportionate body over all, face was so so. She was very mechanical and cold, straight to the business. She kept asking me all the time if I was done already. Switching positions constantly just to try to make Me cum faster. She wouldn't let me kiss any part of her body. She asked me to pay her up front and I said, half now half once we're done and she just laughed ironically.
In a way it was worth it because I was really attracted to her but oh boy, I should've gone with my gut because deep down I knew it was going to be a bad session. I was very disappointed. First bad experience.
Stay away from Lorena boys, stay away.I hate that for you, Big Edd. My below average sessions have always come when I ignored my gut. Now, if I don't have a real good feel, I pass. We do not lack alternative options.
This is my first time posting.
I went to HK Friday night and had a bad experience with this girl named lore or Lorena from Sinaloa, she has a really nice natural ass, very pretty long curly hair, a nice natural and proportionate body over all, face was so so. She was very mechanical and cold, straight to the business. She kept asking me all the time if I was done already. Switching positions constantly just to try to make Me cum faster. She wouldn't let me kiss any part of her body. She asked me to pay her up front and I said, half now half once we're done and she just laughed ironically.
In a way it was worth it because I was really attracted to her but oh boy, I should've gone with my gut because deep down I knew it was going to be a bad session. I was very disappointed. First bad experience.
Stay away from Lorena boys, stay away.Welcome to the genuine HK GFE experience.
Captain Solo
06-26-21, 20:43
Big Magick.
It is well-known that the mouth carries far more pathogen than the pussy. Kissing would be riskier than DATY, unless you get knocked out cold by a dead-fish stench. You can ask the girls to.
Wash deeply with soap, lowering the risks.
I ate out and sucked clits of a few extremely hot HK girls. I deep F Ked quite a few. Nothing happened. A wingman loves to dine at the YMCA and had long DATY sessions every time with a number of HK girls. He's still alive and kicking.
Everything you do in life carries some risks. Just take calculated and educated risks to survive another day.
Thanks for the replies Captain and keepthefun plus how dangerous is DATY?
Looking into flying into San Diego since it's cheaper than TIJ. Online it looks like there's a bridge (Cross Border Xpress) that allows you to cross the border right into TIJ. From there would an Uber to Cascadas be a reasonable way to get there?
Seems like this would be an efficient way to cross the border back and forth with minimal lines and also save on airfare, but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Has anyone used this service before?Unfortunately, CBX is only good to use if you are coming from the US and then flying out of the Tijuana airport. You will need to cross in San Ysidro or Otay.
Captain Solo
06-26-21, 21:11
Big Edd.
Nobody hits 100% good session in HK. It depends on both you and the girl. HK girls are humans too with their own sensitivities, likes, dislikes, only a few know how to express their true or fake passion, the rest only give you a ride for the money.
If they know and like you they would act loving in the bar, drape themselves on you, talk sweetly, kiss, hug, squeeze, coo sweetly like talking with their babies. In bed they would kid around, show their sexy features to seduce you, take assertive role, kiss, squeeze, grab onto you with both arms and legs like an octopus, buck their crotches to fuck the daylight of you for their own enjoyment. Many ways to get them to like you, you probably have to drink with them, buy food, take them to bed a few times, look good, nice, sweet, gentle, caring, generous, funny ect. The girls have a lot of feelings, not hardened fuck robots. On top of the money, you still have to seduce them to get good sessions.
You just have to go to HK a few times, repeat with and find girls who like you. Or you can try Jimena in front of bar Caretta. That girl looks good with pretty face and tight, natural body. She grabbed hold of me tight and bucked her crotch like a machine, rolled her head, fluttered her eyes, sighed, gasped, squeezing, clawing, not shy expressing she really enjoyed sex. But YMMV, no guarantee she will do it with you.
This is my first time posting.
I went to HK Friday night and had a bad experience with this girl named lore or Lorena from Sinaloa, she has a really nice natural ass, very pretty long curly hair, a nice natural and proportionate body over all, face was so so. She was very mechanical and cold, straight to the business. She kept asking me all the time if I was done already. Switching positions constantly just to try to make Me cum faster. She wouldn't let me kiss any part of her body. She asked me to pay her up front and I said, half now half once we're done and she just laughed ironically.
In a way it was worth it because I was really attracted to her but oh boy, I should've gone with my gut because deep down I knew it was going to be a bad session. I was very disappointed. First bad experience.
Stay away from Lorena boys, stay away.Nah dude, that's not worth it. That kind of garbage service shouldn't be acceptable. Get to know her while you're downstairs. Tip a dollar, get her attention, buy a ficha if you have to. The face and neck area are the sensitive money spots. If she doesn't let you near there or kiss her then get rid of her. She'll be mechanical. You should also negotiate to pay after the session. Girls that demand payment upfront are a red flag.
I hate that for you, Big Edd. My below average sessions have always come when I ignored my gut. Now, if I don't have a real good feel, I pass. We do not lack alternative options.I agree our gut can give us a signal if someone may give a bad experience.
Multiple times I have taken street girls to my room and immediately sent them back -paying them 50 or 100 pesos depending on length of walk to hotel.
As we get to the room I develop a gut feel on how it will go with her.
And I never pay up front. That does not work with HK gals.
BTW. Once I like a gal I do repeat sessions.
During my last 3 night visit more than 7 of my 13 sessions were with the same gal (Karumi) - all 1 -2 hrs.
So, once you find a great gal. Repeat!
PokerLover11
06-27-21, 10:16
Nah dude, that's not worth it. That kind of garbage service shouldn't be acceptable. Get to know her while you're downstairs. Tip a dollar, get her attention, buy a ficha if you have to. The face and neck area are the sensitive money spots. If she doesn't let you near there or kiss her then get rid of her. She'll be mechanical. You should also negotiate to pay after the session. Girls that demand payment upfront are a red flag.I know three chicas that are leaving and not coming back because of forced vaccinations there will be a poor guy to girl ratio in the near future.
Because HK is a pure fuck bar, it is the one place that every guy should negotiate in detail. Define what "everything" means because I guarantee that it is not. Define what good service means. Define when to pay. Define what kissing means. Define what 30 minutes mean. Define everything before you agree to a price while you are still in the bar.
If you forgot and got surprised in the room, it's on you.
BigButtDetecto
06-27-21, 20:55
I know three chicas that are leaving and not coming back because of forced vaccinations there will be a poor guy to girl ratio in the near future.Great. 3 less super spreaders. They are many others that pray to get the vaccine.
I know three chicas that are leaving and not coming back because of forced vaccinations there will be a poor guy to girl ratio in the near future.Very interesting. I asked a gal if she got the shot and she didn't just say no. She looked at me like "no way" etc. It's just took me off guard as I thought they would want to get the shots but guess not.
Big Edd.
Nobody hits 100% good session in HK. It depends on both you and the girl. HK girls are humans too with their own sensitivities, likes, dislikes, only a few know how to express their true or fake passion, the rest only give you a ride for the money.
If they know and like you they would act loving in the bar, drape themselves on you, talk sweetly, kiss, hug, squeeze, coo sweetly like talking with their babies. In bed they would kid around, show their sexy features to seduce you, take assertive role, kiss, squeeze, grab onto you with both arms and legs like an octopus, buck their crotches to fuck the daylight of you for their own enjoyment. Many ways to get them to like you, you probably have to drink with them, buy food, take them to bed a few times, look good, nice, sweet, gentle, caring, generous, funny ect. The girls have a lot of feelings, not hardened fuck robots. On top of the money, you still have to seduce them to get good sessions..So true Cap about the girls perspective.
And it's a little scary. As when walking up to a girl who is half my age and then some. And I have a few pounds to shed. I have this feeling like she won't like me and yes. There is a Specific "vibe" I get in the first couple minutes with small chit chat.
Would every girl in Highschool like you? No way!
BUT. Maybe 40% of the girls will engage with a positive feeling. And of that a few maybe 20% will really "click" with. Humor or other stuff.
I just got to remember they are there to make money period. I tip a buck or two even those I don't have chemistry as they normally let me do a little groping or rubbing.
Also. Some girls will not even look at you with any eye attention and that's ok. Just skip them and move on as they are fishing for bigger fish or younger fish etc. It's all the money and biology.
You will find a few that "lean in". They not only give you the attention, but they give of themselves unapologetically, honestly, openly. It's way I so love those Mexican ladies!
Big Magick
06-27-21, 23:12
Advice for Big Edd.
To avoid situations like that you should get to know the girl before taking her up. My best experiences have been when I put on a bit of charm and tried to get the girl to like me. I've also had decent experiences just asking straight up what I can and can't do in bed, this method works but its never as passionate and fulfilling as when you build rapport and connection with her.
If you or anyone wants a wingman I will be there this June 28-30th.
I'm fairly new to the zona but have learned fast from experience and this forum and I'm definitely not new to women or mongering in general.
So true Cap about the girls perspective.
Would every girl in Highschool like you? No way!
BUT. Maybe 40% of the girls will engage with a positive feeling. And of that a few maybe 20% will really "click" with. Humor or other stuff.
Also. Some girls will not even look at you with any eye attention and that's ok. Just skip them and move on as they are fishing for bigger fish or younger fish etc. It's all the money and biology.
You will find a few that "lean in". They not only give you the attention, but they give of themselves unapologetically, honestly, openly.Agree 100% - to look for that vibe / chemistry.
Same with the street girls. Though there is much less time to interact. You can treat the first short session with Street girl as equivalent to a couple of HK drinks.
And if you like. Extend to 1 HR or 2 hrs.
Because HK is a pure fuck bar, it is the one place that every guy should negotiate in detail. Define what "everything" means because I guarantee that it is not. Define what good service means. Define when to pay. Define what kissing means. Define what 30 minutes mean. Define everything before you agree to a price while you are still in the bar.
If you forgot and got surprised in the room, it's on you.Agree 100% - with any gal HK or street girl.
My friends tease me that I want the girl to negotiate and sign terms of agreement up front.
Despite my effort to negotiate sometimes I fail to discuss everything and end up not able able to finger the girl, etc. OK I compromise.
#1 thing to negotiate. Unlimited positions, unlimited BJ and Sex during paid time.
#2 - amount of time. With street girls many expect only 15 minutes. So be clear on amount of time.
I have seen many HK gals come down in 20 minutes.
Insist with HK gals. Minimum 30 minutes in the room with you (or 1 HR if it is your own room).
LuvMexicanas
06-28-21, 17:24
Some girls will not even look at you with any eye attention and that's ok. Just skip them and move on as they are fishing for bigger fish or younger fish etc.The smarter and more experienced ones avoid the younger fish to protect their moneymaker from getting busted out by 20 somethings jack hammering them. Three or more of those in a night will have a chica pretty wobbly and raw, which latex exacerbates even with lube.
Member #4730
06-29-21, 00:10
I went down with $500 to kill some time and satisfy my need for chicas. This hobby is so addicting and glad I haven't been able to travel internationally past year or accounts would probably be suffering. I crossed the border and rode in the new Zona Shuttle extended Dodge Ram. It is a lot nicer than the stretch Escalade and a fellow monger from Anaheim comes down on his Sundays and said it is a more chill vibe than weekend. He was meeting up with 2 civvie chicas, not sure if tinder or dating app, but I tipped the driver $3 and walked over to Tropical. I found 2 hotties sitting by themselves at the table and bought them both a ficha. We chatted for a bit and then I took one up to the room for some wham bam thank you ma'am and then parted ways to get something to eat at Sedna Norte. It was not as great as last time, but like the vibe and it has AC without the BO you normally find in the clubs. After eating head over to HK and it was kinda bare around 4 pm.
I decided to walk over to Chavelas and met a slender lady named Favela from Guadalajara and she spoke English. She said she spent 3 months in Mexico City to learn English and she works in real estate. She is only at the club for 2 weeks and then heading back to Guadalajara for some spending cash. I got her a ficha and she started to rub on my body and grab junior. She awoke the snake serpent and I started to feel on her natural breasts. She eventually spread her leg over my legs spread eagle while I was rubbing her cat and she was squeezing junior and we both laughed grabbing each other saying natural. I asked the fee for arriba and she said $100, but I quickly tried for $80. She stuck to her guns so $100 it is and she offered kissing, but everything covered for "her protection". She had nice set of pearly whites which I thought were veneers, but they were also natural. We got up and went to the front door to get a robe. Tipped robe man $1 and then up to hotel. This time I just laid $20 on table as they always try to upcharge for the $30 deal.
We got to the room and I took a quick bird bath since it was a little hot outside and she started getting undressed. She laid on the bed spread eagle so I obliged in dining at the why. She was getting super wet and juicy so I started moving up her body from her legs up to her neck and eventually LFK. Junior was getting some wet slides, but she had her hand on him just so no accidents occurred. Eventually se got on top and put on the condom, but I swear these things are the worst as half way through the session dick went limp. They only give one condom so she offered HJ and I had her sit on my face while she gave me a HJ, but I swear she must have been giving me a BBBJ as I felt her tongue, but her juices were all over my mouth and lips. Eventually I got off and we took a shower and parted ways. Back at the club I could still taste pussy on my top lip and I just had to laugh at myself. What would we do without the chicas south of the border? Have fun and stay safe!
The smarter and more experienced ones avoid the younger fish to protect their moneymaker from getting busted out by 20 somethings jack hammering them. Three or more of those in a night will have a chica pretty wobbly and raw, which latex exacerbates even with lube.I never thought about that. The older guys may get off faster and less hammering.
Agree 100% - with any gal HK or street girl.
My friends tease me that I want the girl to negotiate and sign terms of agreement up front.
Despite my effort to negotiate sometimes I fail to discuss everything and end up not able able to finger the girl, etc. OK I compromise.
#1 thing to negotiate. Unlimited positions, unlimited BJ and Sex during paid time.
#2 - amount of time. With street girls many expect only 15 minutes. So be clear on amount of time.
I have seen many HK gals come down in 20 minutes.
Insist with HK gals. Minimum 30 minutes in the room with you (or 1 HR if it is your own room).Ah. Great point Rambo about the 1 hour if it's your room. The girl I brought over from Tropical to Cascadas wasn't in any hurry to leave after 30 minutes and I could not figure out why. It's because I probably could have hug with her for an hour! I thought she would get in trouble or something if she wasn't back in 30 minutes.
Captain Solo
06-29-21, 06:17
About 10 PM, HK was packed with guys and girls, quite a few guys and their GFs were sitting around the stage watching the seriously pretty spinner Calia from Sinaloa in her sexy strip show.
We were sitting, drinking at a table nearby when there were lots of banging and thumping near the stage. A group of about 10 meseros and security guys was trying to restrain a guy sitting on the stool at the stage and he was resisting very hard at every turn. It was not a fight; they were trying to pin down only 1 guy, looked like a short and stocky gringo, mid 40's, with gray crew cut. There were no shouting, screaming or talking, just a lot of scuffling, thumping, huffing, puffing above the loud music. Guys and girls at the stage looked frightened and quickly vacated the area.
After a couple minutes, 10 of them were on top of the guy, pinning him face down flat on the floor with their knees, twisting his arms behind his back, choke holding, slamming him down. He kept resisting hard with his arms and legs, but after about 3 minutes he got exhausted, breathing heavily and just gave up. They slowly dragged him like a rag doll out the front door. All along a group of meseros was hovering over the scuffle, trying to hide all that violence from spectators.
The guy was not fighting anyone but more likely was jacking off while watching Calia's beautiful, all natural body squirming on stage with her perky boobs and her tiny, pink kitty. Comparing to guys screwing, getting HJ, BJ in front of everyone in the bar, pleasuring yourself to the stripper is deemed a lewd act in public since it's cheating the bar and girls out of their rightful incomes. Guys can do just about anything they want in HK, just don't cheat anyone out of their money. That's just Mexico's titties bar logic LOL.
The guys was very physical but they did a very good job restraining him; did not see any blood on him or anyone. Looked like nobody was injured, just a scuffle. Had no idea what they did to him outside on the street. Things quieted down in the bar. HK managers, security and meseros acted cool and casual like nothing had happened. Looked like such incident happens often and they are well trained, well rehearsed to contain it. I had seen a similar incidence before when they pinned a guy down on his face and called in policia to make arrest for jacking off at the stage.
People drifted back to the stage. Everyone quickly returned to their unabashed pursuit of fun and pleasure after a brief interruption. Nobody seemed concerned about all that hubnub.
HK workers and security cameras watch everyone in the club like hawks and are trained to work in teams to control rogue quests. If you don't know or don't understand the club's rules, ask someone for details.
Guys should act like gentlemen in the club, don't pull any selfish stupid shit and think they can get away with it.
Big Magick
06-29-21, 14:41
My 4 days of zona norte degeneracy started tonight at almost 2 am. Not much talent walking around as aspected for a Monday night but I managed to find a girl that fit my needs. I seem to have the best luck for GFE with the girls in their late 20's. The session was passionate and the girl was beautiful but I didn't want to end the night there.
I eventually ended up with a second girls friend. I had been eyeing this girl since I 1st walked in but during the fichas and conversation she admitted she didn't kissed so she passes me to her friend who honestly was hotter. It ended up being an intense session, this girl did not kiss either but after some drinks and me starting DATY she loosened up quite a bit, she was wet and moaned during the session. It was truly an amazing night in the zona.
KC Questor
06-29-21, 18:02
Eventually se got on top and put on the condom, but I swear these things are the worst as half way through the session dick went limp. They only give one condomTwo good reasons to bring your own condoms.
My 4 days of zona norte degeneracy started tonight at almost 2 am. Not much talent walking around as aspected for a Monday night but I managed to find a girl that fit my needs. I seem to have the best luck for GFE with the girls in their late 20's. The session was passionate and the girl was beautiful but I didn't want to end the night there.
I eventually ended up with a second girls friend. I had been eyeing this girl since I 1st walked in but during the fichas and conversation she admitted she didn't kissed so she passes me to her friend who honestly was hotter. It ended up being an intense session, this girl did not kiss either but after some drinks and me starting DATY she loosened up quite a bit, she was wet and moaned during the session. It was truly an amazing night in the zona.OMG. What a great starting quote. "My 4 days of zona norte degeneracy". Can always find plenty of stuff to poke fun at ourselves down there!
About 10 PM, HK was packed with guys and girls, quite a few guys and their GFs were sitting around the stage watching the seriously pretty spinner Calia from Sinaloa in her sexy strip show.
We were sitting, drinking at a table nearby when there were lots of banging and thumping near the stage. A group of about 10 meseros and security guys was trying to restrain a guy sitting on the stool at the stage and he was resisting very hard at every turn. It was not a fight; they were trying to pin down only 1 guy, looked like a short and stocky gringo, mid 40's, with gray crew cut. There were no shouting, screaming or talking, just a lot of scuffling, thumping, huffing, puffing above the loud music. Guys and girls at the stage looked frightened and quickly vacated the area.
After a couple minutes, 10 of them were on top of the guy, pinning him face down flat on the floor with their knees, twisting his arms behind his back, choke holding, slamming him down. He kept resisting hard with his arms and legs, but after about 3 minutes he got exhausted, breathing heavily and just gave up. They slowly dragged him like a rag doll out the front door. All along a group of meseros was hovering over the scuffle, trying to hide all that violence from spectators.
The guy was not fighting anyone but more likely was jacking off while watching Calia's beautiful, all natural body squirming on stage with her perky boobs and her tiny, pink kitty. Comparing to guys screwing, getting HJ, BJ in front of everyone in the bar, pleasuring yourself to the stripper is deemed a lewd act in public since it's cheating the bar and girls out of their rightful incomes. Guys can do just about anything they want in HK, just don't cheat anyone out of their money. That's just Mexico's titties bar logic LOL.The only thing that separates us from the animals are rules. That animal should have acted civilized and buy a chica a ficha so that she can give him a proper public hand job while he watched the dancers. Absolutely disgusting behavior. I hope they banned him for at least a month.
Because HK is a pure fuck bar, it is the one place that every guy should negotiate in detail. Define what "everything" means because I guarantee that it is not. Define what good service means. Define when to pay. Define what kissing means. Define what 30 minutes mean. Define everything before you agree to a price while you are still in the bar.
If you forgot and got surprised in the room, it's on you.That's one strategy that may or may not work for some guys.
Jinxx doesn't do all that "define this" "define that" type of stuff. Jinxx grabs them by the pussy and smacks them hard on their ass. Jinxx grabs them by the throat and pulls their hair. Jinxx looks her in the eye and and can see deep into her soul to figure out exactly how horny she is and exactly how badly she needs some cock. Jinxx never initiates DFK. Chicas initiate DFK with Jinxx. Jinxx doesn't request BBBJ. Once in the room Jinxx just sticks his bare cock in her mouth and verbally encourages her to suck as if her life depended on it. Jinxx is well known in the zona as a nasty motherfucker.
Member #4775
06-29-21, 20:28
Where do I start. This place is amazing, not to mention cheap! Started my night off by having a 3 some with two lovely ladies. Came back down to HK an was ready to leave. Then I saw a beauty with a phat ass. Her name was Victoria from Guadalajara. Took her up to the room an fucked in the ass! Amazing. I will come back to HK! That's for dam sure!
That's one strategy that may or may not work for some guys.
Jinxx doesn't do all that "define this" "define that" type of stuff. Jinxx grabs them by the pussy and smacks them hard on their ass. Jinxx grabs them by the throat and pulls their hair. Jinxx looks her in the eye and and can see deep into her soul to figure out exactly how horny she is and exactly how badly she needs some cock. Jinxx never initiates DFK. Chicas initiate DFK with Jinxx. Jinxx doesn't request BBBJ. Once in the room Jinxx just sticks his bare cock in her mouth and verbally encourages her to suck as if her life depended on it. Jinxx is well known in the zona as a nasty motherfucker.All right, I'll give it a try. But if 10 meseros breaks down the door and drags me out, it is your fault.
Member #4730
06-30-21, 00:17
Two good reasons to bring your own condoms.I will bring some next time. The ones they use seem to feel like a true raincoat and can't feel shit. It actually worked out in my favor as she said she doesn't do bare anything and eventually licking and slobbering on junior in 69. She was wet at the beginning, but with the condom it seems to have dried up. She probably preferred it as well since she got wet again. Felt magical rubbing tip on her wet goodness, but respect her decisions.
Member #4730
06-30-21, 00:18
That's one strategy that may or may not work for some guys.
Jinxx doesn't do all that "define this" "define that" type of stuff. Jinxx grabs them by the pussy and smacks them hard on their ass. Jinxx grabs them by the throat and pulls their hair. Jinxx looks her in the eye and and can see deep into her soul to figure out exactly how horny she is and exactly how badly she needs some cock. Jinxx never initiates DFK. Chicas initiate DFK with Jinxx. Jinxx doesn't request BBBJ. Once in the room Jinxx just sticks his bare cock in her mouth and verbally encourages her to suck as if her life depended on it. Jinxx is well known in the zona as a nasty motherfucker.I always try to go with the flow as well because the negotiations sometimes kill the vibe. Life is like a box of chocolates 😋.
Big Magick
06-30-21, 10:44
I walk into HK at 4:30 and this is the most hot women I have ever seen in here. Its my first time here during the day and if this is how the girls are I'm only coming at this hour now. Its comparable to a Friday or Saturday night but with a better guy to girl ratio.
My mind and body didn't know what to do, usually I have trouble finding something I like, this time there were too many choices.
The only problem is usually the really hot ones don't do DFK, a necessity for me, but today I found a solid 8 in my book that did.
Captain Solo
06-30-21, 18:43
Big Magick.
What's her name?
Descriptions?
Day two in the zona, I'm shocked at the talent in here today.
Saw a guy fitting this description sitting by the entrance. A mesero came up to him and asked if he wanted to buy a drink and he said no. Just sitting there staring at the dancers. . . Wonder if they asked him to leave and he wouldn't.
About 10 PM, HK was packed with guys and girls, quite a few guys and their GFs were sitting around the stage watching the seriously pretty spinner Calia from Sinaloa in her sexy strip show.
We were sitting, drinking at a table nearby when there were lots of banging and thumping near the stage. A group of about 10 meseros and security guys was trying to restrain a guy sitting on the stool at the stage and he was resisting very hard at every turn. It was not a fight; they were trying to pin down only 1 guy, looked like a short and stocky gringo, mid 40's, with gray crew cut. There were no shouting, screaming or talking, just a lot of scuffling, thumping, huffing, puffing above the loud music. Guys and girls at the stage looked frightened and quickly vacated the area.
After a couple minutes, 10 of them were on top of the guy, pinning him face down flat on the floor with their knees, twisting his arms behind his back, choke holding, slamming him down. He kept resisting hard with his arms and legs, but after about 3 minutes he got exhausted, breathing heavily and just gave up. They slowly dragged him like a rag doll out the front door. All along a group of meseros was hovering over the scuffle, trying to hide all that violence from spectators.
The guy was not fighting anyone but more likely was jacking off while watching Calia's beautiful, all natural body squirming on stage with her perky boobs and her tiny, pink kitty. Comparing to guys screwing, getting HJ, BJ in front of everyone in the bar, pleasuring yourself to the stripper is deemed a lewd act in public since it's cheating the bar and girls out of their rightful incomes. Guys can do just about anything they want in HK, just don't cheat anyone out of their money. That's just Mexico's titties bar logic LOL..
Captain Solo
07-01-21, 01:55
It happened around 10 PM.
The guy was sitting at the stage, wearing a collarless light blue Tshirt, showing his red neck, salt and pepper crew cut.
I think it probably happens often, guys want to get off cheap. HK meseros seem well-trained to contain it quickly and quietly.
Saw a guy fitting this description sitting by the entrance. A mesero came up to him and asked if he wanted to buy a drink and he said no. Just sitting there staring at the dancers. . . Wonder if they asked him to leave and he wouldn't.Many HK goers just walk through other bars like Tropical, and when they don't find any talents, they just walk back to HK. From while ago, I use same tactics in HK as well. I've been visiting HK at least once a week past 5 years, and never had a issue for not ordering my drink when the meseros want.
When I enter the HK, Lots of greetings from mesero friends. I just do Hi five and all greetings with them. Sat down at a table and smoking and browsing. When meseros ask my drink, I just simply say "mas tarde, gracias". That's it.
Unless it is a busy day with almost all the tables are occupied, you should be ok.
Big Magick
07-01-21, 07:43
She was about 5'6 in her heels, black hair, light brown skin. Told the meseros her name was "baby".
Her body reminds me of Mila kunis, not her face but just the body.
After her at around 10 pm I met another girl, Anita. Solid 7 spinner type. Another great GFE. We spent hours in hk drinking together. Went upstairs and came back down to drink more.
Third girl of the day was another spinner, Karaney. This one was my favorite because of her looks and personality (I would still say the first girl was hotter). Anyways downstairs was fun, got a bit of light kissing but upstairs things became slightly mechanical. Not entirely her fault, I was pretty drunk and exhausted at this point. We bonded with a post sex joint and parted ways. I feel like with a bit more effort I can get more of a GFE from this one. She's a real pro but I'm slightly obsessed, what can I say, I love toxic women LOL.
"Walmart is tracking which of their employees take and do not take the vaccine. If you work at Walmart you can only go mask less if you have taken the vaccine. I was there today and checking out where the cashier had a mask on. I said do you have to wear that if you haven't been vaccinated. She said yes and she wasn't going to take the vaccine. She said her mom gives out vaccinations every day and told her not to take it. I told her listen to your mom she knows what she is talking about. I felt sorry for her having to wear that mask since that can have a bad effect on your health too. It looked like though she had a pretty good opening near her nose where she was unencumbered breathing so in her own way she's sticking it to them. LOL We talked about how over half of the CDC isn't taking the vaccine and these are the people that should know the most about it. I saw a lot of Amish and Mennonites in the store and they weren't wearing no stupid masks. LOL".
Deprogram Yourself From The Mistaken Belief You Have No Immunity Against Pathogenic Viruses of Any Kind And Must Totally Rely on Vaccination To Avoid Death.
Www dot lewrockwell.com/2021/07/ no_author / deprogram-yourself-from-the-mistaken-belief-you-have-no-immunity-against-pathogenic-viruses-of-any-kind-and-must-totally-rely-on-vaccination-to-avoid-death.
Great. 3 less super spreaders. They are many others that pray to get the vaccine.
Captain Solo
07-01-21, 17:27
Travv,
Forgot to add, I have never seen guys evicted for not buying drinks, left alone being restrained forcefully by 10 HK guys. They would have to do something illegal, or against club's rules, to incur such treatment and it would have to be authorized by managers and security guys.
Many nights I had drunk too much just sitting there and reject meseros when they ask. Unlike other bars in La Zona, HK meseros will ask guys if they would buy drinks but they don't harass or evict them.
Saw a guy fitting this description sitting by the entrance. A mesero came up to him and asked if he wanted to buy a drink and he said no. Just sitting there staring at the dancers. . . Wonder if they asked him to leave and he wouldn't.
Captain Solo
07-01-21, 18:52
Will look for Baby. Thanks for the info.
3 girls a night? At this rate, you may be wearing out all HK girls for the rest of the bros hehe.
Saw a guy fitting this description sitting by the entrance. A mesero came up to him and asked if he wanted to buy a drink and he said no. Just sitting there staring at the dancers. . . Wonder if they asked him to leave and he wouldn't.A few weeks ago as I was exiting Adelita's some shit faced drunk guy was trying to walk into the club with a beer bottle and the door guys were trying to stop him but he was being belligerent. I quickly left not staying to watch the show, but it looked like the guy was about to be physically restrained. Maybe a ride down to Tijuana jail would sober him up and teach him to act right. Hopefully he had somebody, a wingman to help him out and keep his ass out of trouble. It was an older gringo wearing shorts flip flops and a Hawaiian shirt so you know he was on vacation.
Will look for Baby. Thanks for the info.
3 girls a night? At this rate, you may be wearing out all HK girls for the rest of the bros hehe.Ironic I was looking in my chat's from an old phone with a Mexico number I had a couple years ago and "Baby" was in there. I also showed her name as Ximena. Beautiful small body. (just the way you like them. I think she has a small black mole near her lip if I remember correctly. She was so cool. Hung out and had a beer at Azul's afterwards. She had an ID issue for a bit and wasn't working at HK but would meet me there when I texted her. I remember her asking me before we met if I wanted makeup or no makeup (as she would be able to get to HK faster).
Would love to fuck that wonderful girl again! Will private message you her number if you want to try to reach out.
"Walmart is tracking which of their employees take and do not take the vaccine. If you work at Walmart you can only go mask less if you have taken the vaccine. I was there today and checking out where the cashier had a mask on. I said do you have to wear that if you haven't been vaccinated. She said yes and she wasn't going to take the vaccine. She said her mom gives out vaccinations every day and told her not to take it. I told her listen to your mom she knows what she is talking about. I felt sorry for her having to wear that mask since that can have a bad effect on your health too. It looked like though she had a pretty good opening near her nose where she was unencumbered breathing so in her own way she's sticking it to them. LOL We talked about how over half of the CDC isn't taking the vaccine and these are the people that should know the most about it. I saw a lot of Amish and Mennonites in the store and they weren't wearing no stupid masks. LOL".
Deprogram Yourself From The Mistaken Belief You Have No Immunity Against Pathogenic Viruses of Any Kind And Must Totally Rely on Vaccination To Avoid Death.
Www dot lewrockwell.com/2021/07/ no_author / deprogram-yourself-from-the-mistaken-belief-you-have-no-immunity-against-pathogenic-viruses-of-any-kind-and-must-totally-rely-on-vaccination-to-avoid-death.Bullshit.
The CDC do not have 50% of its people refusing the vaccine.
Even the big pussie Donald Trump got vaccinated. He just forgot to tell everyone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL2N2N71QB
Dickus Maximus
07-01-21, 21:38
Travv,
Forgot to add, I have never seen guys evicted for not buying drinks, left alone being restrained forcefully by 10 HK guys. They would have to do something illegal, or against club's rules, to incur such treatment and it would have to be authorized by managers and security guys.
Many nights I had drunk too much just sitting there and reject meseros when they ask. Unlike other bars in La Zona, HK meseros will ask guys if they would buy drinks but they don't harass or evict them.
Saw a guy fitting this description sitting by the entrance. A mesero came up to him and asked if he wanted to buy a drink and he said no. Just sitting there staring at the dancers. . . Wonder if they asked him to leave and he wouldn't.I was there a few weeks ago and got told by some security goon to buy a drink or leave. Thing was I'd already had four at the bar and was buzzed and tired and strongly thinking of leaving so I took it as a message from the universe. On the way out I scolded the manager for about three minutes about his treatment of the customers and said I would post about it. He was profusely apologetic, but I doubt it made any difference in the behavior of the security goon.
I was there a few weeks ago and got told by some security goon to buy a drink or leave. Thing was I'd already had four at the bar and was buzzed and tired and strongly thinking of leaving so I took it as a message from the universe. On the way out I scolded the manager for about three minutes about his treatment of the customers and said I would post about it. He was profusely apologetic, but I doubt it made any difference in the behavior of the security goon.In that situation I would've just simply bought a beer. There have been times where I ordered a beer and didn't take one sip. I just bought it so that I wouldn't look like a deadbeat, plus I feel like I owe them at least something for being in their club. Other times I've bought water or a soda. One hint if you keep moving and don't stay in one spot too long nobody will bother you to buy a drink. HK is big enough you can kinda keep moving from one area to another. You can't really do that in the other clubs because they're much smaller spaces than HK.
I was there a few weeks ago and got told by some security goon to buy a drink or leave. Thing was I'd already had four at the bar and was buzzed and tired and strongly thinking of leaving so I took it as a message from the universe. On the way out I scolded the manager for about three minutes about his treatment of the customers and said I would post about it. He was profusely apologetic, but I doubt it made any difference in the behavior of the security goon.If I was that manager I would've politely informed you that HK is a bar, an alcoholic selling establishment. Therefore if you're not buying drinks then we simply don't want you in our bar, with all due respect. And please by all means spread the word on the internet as much as you possibly can. And I would've thanked you for informing me that my security guy is doing his job exactly like he's supposed to be doing.
Captain Solo
07-02-21, 00:35
Dickus,
Security is only doing their job enforcing club's rules. If they see you hang out long time with out buying or tipping, they would inquire. If you had explained to the security guy you already bought drinks, he would have left you alone. If he insists you leave, you can always ask him to bring in a floor manager to settle the issue. Most likely the manager would tell you you could stay.
Even on weekend when the cover is $5 for a beer, I would walk out and tell the door guy I would come back. They would never hassle me to buy another drink when I come back.
The club has lots of work rules and its workers are known reasonable. Meseros who steal or cheat, managers who rough up workers and clients have been fired. I know that floor manager rough guy Luis from East LA. There were complaints against him. He was demoted to mesero job, eventually shamed and quit the job.
Like in any country, if you think you have been wrong, always elevate the issues to higher levels of authority. Higher-level people are smarter, have better knowledge and more flexibility, so they can resolve your issues fairly.
Member #4730
07-02-21, 08:51
I was there a few weeks ago and got told by some security goon to buy a drink or leave. Thing was I'd already had four at the bar and was buzzed and tired and strongly thinking of leaving so I took it as a message from the universe. On the way out I scolded the manager for about three minutes about his treatment of the customers and said I would post about it. He was profusely apologetic, but I doubt it made any difference in the behavior of the security goon.Never had that experience. I don't drink alcohol and only order water, juice, or frescas. Some days I only go into the bar and get bills from bartender and sit at the stage and tip the ladies. No issue and I think I was sitting at the stage for close to 3-4 hours last night with no drink and just tipping the dancers. Strange they would try to run customers out of the joint during these times. I thought they were just happy to have business. The only incidences I've seen were girls having too much to drink and getting in cat fights.
Big Magick
07-02-21, 10:46
The past few days at HK were wild but necessary. Every man should have a phase in their life where they get laid, if not the sexual frustration can eat you alive. Whether its with putas or civilians, getting women has saved me in a way, as cheesy as that sounds. The path for men is a constant battle and having these amazing experiences in my head keeps me going.
The sexual instinct is our most powerful drive (besides survival). If you can harness that energy to motivate other areas of your life, you could do almost anything.
Men left to their own devices would be savage degenerates, its in our DNA. The rules of society have tamed us in order to keep peace and run a functional world. The prize for our cooperation was access to women (marriage). Since western women aren't complying anymore we have no choice but to look for alternatives.
We are all unspoken brothers on this path.
God bless the Zona Norte.
Considering the level of club that HK is and really. The other bars as well I am happy to buy several bottles of water for $4 and just have one with me wherever I am sitting. Realize that in at a strip club in San Diego or Vegas what it would cost me just look at the girls and not touch.
We are So lucky to have HK and the other clubs so close. We are so lucky that HK cares about their customers to the level they do. Realize we could be living in Kansas or something and couldn't even go there on the weekends.
I have walked through the club looking for someone with out a drink and one or maybe two meseros would ask me about a drink. From what I remember I think they were ok with it and never gave ultimatums.
Each club has it's own vibe about how often the meseros bug you about drinks and yea. Some seem a bit pushy but not a biggie as my hands too busy groping the gorgeous women.
Just my. 02 cent's worth but we need to support the Zona Norte bars.
We are So lucky to have HK and the other clubs so close. We are so lucky that HK cares about their customers to the level they do
Just my. 02 cent's worth but we need to support the Zona Norte bars.I used to think this way when I first started too. But after seeing of waiters keeping my change, charging for stupid snacks I did not order, shake and take a way a chica's half full drink, telling a chica to stop drinking with me so he can take her to a rich customer, I have dropped this illusion.
KC Questor
07-02-21, 19:44
Never had that experience. I don't drink alcohol and only order water, juice, or frescas. Some days I only go into the bar and get bills from bartender and sit at the stage and tip the ladies. No issue and I think I was sitting at the stage for close to 3-4 hours last night with no drink and just tipping the dancers. Strange they would try to run customers out of the joint during these times. I thought they were just happy to have business..If you aren't buying drinks, they don't have any business from you. Do you think they make money from you tipping the dancers?
Member #4730
07-02-21, 19:57
If you aren't buying drinks, they don't have any business from you. Do you think they make money from you tipping the dancers?I was just pointing out that the other poster was singled out and I've never ran into the issue he had where they gave him an ultimatum. I guess I'll keep going and see if they give an ultimatum, but never been told to buy a drink or leave at any club, anywhere in the world. They do get my money when I go arriba and when I drink my non-alcoholic beverages.
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