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Damn, I kinda enjoyed the GFE in Colombia. I'm assuming the HK club experience will be similar to what I've experienced in Germany FKK clubs. The thing is BBBJ is the norm in Germany, whereas it seems like it's the exception to the rule in HK club. I absolutely hate CBJ.
I have a new job and won't be traveling to Germany anymore, so sticking with Tijuana or Medellin. If Tijuana sucks, I will just go to Medellin going forward.The golden years of HK are behind us I would say 2010 - 2015 was peak HK. They had their recruiters getting dime pieces from all over Mexico, Monterrey, GDL, Alcapulco, Sinaloa, etc. They don't do the aggressive recruiting they once did. They still have girls from all over Mexico, but the quality has noticeably gone way down. A lot of street girl quality these days. And the top tier in HK all have ugly ridiculous ass implants.
All the price quotes now start at $100, back then I used to be able to start low ball negotiations at $60 for hotties. You might get GFE but very rare. I was just at La Isla 2 weeks ago got GFE from buying one drink. I also had a nice sweet Venezuelan girl for 200 k COP do a all nighter I found walking around LLeras. No baby damage, young 19 yrs old, light skin beautiful face. Another fav thing I liked to do was go to Loutron get some top tier whatsapp #s and have them do domicillos to my hotel. Nothing like GFE with a top dime in the comfort of your own hotel. I also loved going the opposite direction and get some bargain finds from New Life and have them come to the hotel as well.
Good luck I hope you do find it in Tijuana but chances are slimmer than other monger spots. I still go down to HK to shoot the shit with friends and occasionally find 1 diamond in the rough.
The one constant factor that will always score low TJ for me compared to other monger cities are the godamn unnecessary Mesero business model. Was inserted many years ago to extract as much $1s from the Gringos as much as possible. Fuck the Mesero business model.
Temper your expectations and you will have a good time in Tijuana.
BlackThought
11-26-21, 20:33
Another fav thing I liked to do was go to Loutron get some top tier whatsapp #s and have them do domicillos to my hotel. Nothing like GFE with a top dime in the comfort of your own hotel. I also loved going the opposite direction and get some bargain finds from New Life and have them come to the hotel as well. Any luck getting BBBJ from the Loutron chicas? I heard they're model status.
Member #4730
11-26-21, 22:19
Mexico Lindo Bar has some girls that do $300 TLN, but you're probably going to need to session with them beforehand. TLN are about 8 hours long, and that does not mean it's 8 hours of sex. Three pops is basically standard (twice at night and once in the morning), anything more is a bonus, anything less is sub-par service. Make sure that's clear with whomever you take up for a TLN before you agree to anything. $300 from an 8+ HK girl you have decent chemistry and / or sessions with is a good price. I'm sure it happens from time to time, but I'm skeptical of anyone who claims that a working girl is going to take a pounding for 8 hours after working a full shift. If the sex is good, and you have chemistry with a girl, you're likely to get 4 good pops in.
You can probably get an HK girl for less if the stars align. I've gotten $250 for a TLN, and a buddy came back this summer claiming he got one for $200 but it was because she was having a slow week and it required a bit of a charm offensive- it helps that he speaks Spanish natively.
If you dig down through this forum, there was a discussion about this a few weeks ago with input from multiple members.YMMV with the hobby. Most of the regulars I met in Tropical, Chicago, and HK used to tell me ridiculous overnight rates when first meeting and then as I repeated, some invited to their personal apartments. At the end, I was just told to give them what I could help with. I hate that shit and wish they would just be open with what they "want". I just left $100-$300 depending on what activities we did like shopping, restaurants or bars. You can find some very passionate sessions from the Mexicanas, but my only references are from experiences in Dubai, Thailand, China, Hong Kong, Macau, and USA I probably won't be able experience Columbia as the current GF I met in HK in July. If things go south then will try out Columbia as it seems wonderful.
What's the reason why they won't come to Zona Norte Hotels? I specifically told them that I'll be staying at Hotel Cascadas and they said it's not an issue.
I'm probably only going to session with the one without implants as the other two is likely going to be a bait and switch (they're way too hot, but I haven't been to HK club to set a benchmark).Two reasons just off the top of my head. First, ZN is a very dangerous place for an unescorted woman. Street violence, open-air drug dealing, whatever. Escorting is dangerous enough. Now you add to the mix a client who has already been in the bars. Many will likely be drunk when you show up. Now all bets are off. Will the drunk guy have whiskey dick? Will he get violent because of it? No good escort service will send girls to the ZN or to private residences. Queens is the exception, although I'm told they leave it up to the girls.
The other reason is relative anonymity. Girls escort because it tends to be more discreet than parading around a public bar where anybody could see them. There is a good reason why very, very few legit escorts post face pix. They really don't want their neighbors and acquaintances seeing their pix on a hooker site. They really don't want somebody they know seeing them walking into a hotel in the ZN, either.
I'm very curious to hear of your experiences with the one you've selected. That ad has scam written all over it. Also, in another thread, you said she wanted $2500 mxn. That is on the high side for an indy, but in the ballpark for an agency.
Any luck getting BBBJ from the Loutron chicas? I heard they're model status.I did one but she's out of the game from 3 years ago. With Covid the girls are more hesitant. You're best strategy is to do a multi repeat and build a repoire.
Had to bless Tijuana with my presence to make up for solo who I believe took off for Colombia. I was away for 3 months. Showed up Friday at 6 pm. There was a lot of woman. A lot of 8's. Couple 9. Personally I don't look for 8,9 10 I really am there to hang out. The girls were noticeably more sociable tonight than I've seen in years. That may be because it was 6 pm, which is before the LA dudes show up. Or because there was twice as many woman as men. I asked 1, and it was 80. It was fun time I spent 45 minutes had 2 beers talked to a lot woman the whole cost for me was like 20 bucks. Went to visit 2 woman at the other major bars I've known for 5 years who always write me when they were in town. 1 beer each for them and a tip just because I known them so long. Neither made any kind of effort. One disappeared a few years because gringo paid her 2 k month not to work. Probably one of you guys. I told her I can be the new boyfriend for free and she can still work. She did not take that offer ha. The other one wants to hang out for free but it will still cost me 60 to 80 in foord uber's drinks, I'd rather save my money and go to HK and drink.
LuvMexicanas
11-27-21, 07:29
I did one but she's out of the game from 3 years ago. With Covid the girls are more hesitant. You're best strategy is to do a multi repeat and build a repoire.That's not been my experience. I'm 80 percent escorts but I've had zero issues getting sucked raw in any of the bars including Hong Kong. If it takes multi repeat as you say, perhaps your selection or vibe is the issue.
That's not been my experience. I'm 80 percent escorts but I've had zero issues getting sucked raw in any of the bars including Hong Kong. If it takes multi repeat as you say, perhaps your selection or vibe is the issue.We weren't talking about HK or Tijuana but congratulations is in order for you amigo.
LuvMexicanas
11-27-21, 23:11
We weren't talking about HK or Tijuana but congratulations is in order for you amigo.Oh, I thought this was the Tijuana forum or more specifically the Hong Kong thread. My bad.
Oh, I thought this was the Tijuana forum or more specifically the Hong Kong thread. My bad.All good. It is but he was asking me about Loutron.
StudBucket
11-28-21, 05:43
Any luck getting BBBJ from the Loutron chicas? I heard they're model status.You will have a very tough time getting BBBJ at Loutron. It is very mechanical as the gals see plenty of clients per day. You may get it but will have to throw a hefty tip up front and request. Good luck.
Stopped into HK Saturday at 11 pm. Entrance fee tonight is only 5 dollars but it's for tecate light. Not bad, 1st time I ever paid entrance fee but I doubt do VIP anymore since hotel is not ideal for me. For 12 bucks Monday Tuesday sure. But it's not 12 any more. Rather get hotel with window for 25 on revolucion. Anyway, HK is only seeing about 60% of the male volume compared to pre covid. Probably 15% of that, is Chavelas is at 3 times more crowded than pre covid. And tropical seems to me to be 2 to 3 times as crowded as before covid. 2 small bars behind HK were much quieter than before or during covid peak. Like gold palace for example. But, HK is still full of woman. Honestly like too many if you were a bar owner paying them per hour you would lay 60% off. With the reduced guy volume the woman are much more sociable than they've been in past 5 years. I got quoted prices from 80 to 100. It would take 50 for me to even consider.
FilthyBeaver
11-28-21, 16:20
I generally don't review individuals because so much of this hobby is based on the vibe you have and that is very individual. Based on some recent discussions about overnights I need to share this because it cracked me up.
First off, I've been lurking on this board for a while now. I am a HK veteran of at least 13 years. I've seen that place change so much, thousands of faces have come and gone and I've had legit real gfs and relationships with the small number of stars I was able to connect with. At my peak I was going 5 days in a 7 day span, I've literally spent thousands in there, maybe 10's of, I have no idea. These days I'm mostly retired from Tijuana (but I do monger throughout the world still). I do make it there once or twice a year especially, late in the year, to give some Christmas money to a couple waiters that go back to the beginning with me. All the times I was too drunk to look after myself, there were always the waiters there to look after me and I never had to worry about getting hurt or ripped off.
So I met Frieda on Fri, tiny (maybe 90 lbs wet), no chest, 18 yo with nerdy glasses. She's got a hot spinner nerd vibe for sure. We got along great as we drank together, I always buy them several drinks to test the energy. At some point the topic of all night came up. She wanted to charge me the half hour rate every half hour for the rest of her evening. I don't remember what time it was but it turned out to be something like $1500. I laughed hysterically. There was no point in extending the conversation after that. I guess she didn't like me as much as I thought or she's so green she has no idea what she's asking. I did take her to the room and the performance was less than stellar. All business and very mechanical. She tried to convince me to pay another 100 for baby and I declined. I prefer the hot young ones, performance is usually bad to ok but being smoking hot makes my job a little easier. This one was a dud for me.
. A lot of street girl quality these days. And the top tier in HK all have ugly ridiculous ass implants.
The one constant factor that will always score low TJ for me compared to other monger cities are the godamn unnecessary Mesero business model. Was inserted many years ago to extract as much $1s from the Gringos as much as possible. Fuck the Mesero business model.
Temper your expectations and you will have a good time in Tijuana.A friend went to Vegas last night and had a GFE with a gal from a club and paid $300/ HR. This is with US living costs.
Gals in Vegas were $300 10 years ago too. So no real inflation.
HK gals charging $100/30 minut = $200/ HR. Just not justified given lower living costs in Mexico.
So true. I don't understand why women with such horrible deformed ass implants walk around there. Who gives them tips or arribas?
And I agree there are too man meseros.
I generally don't review individuals because so much of this hobby is based on the vibe you have and that is very individual. Based on some recent discussions about overnights I need to share this because it cracked me up.
First off, I've been lurking on this board for a while now. I am a HK veteran of at least 13 years. I've seen that place change so much, thousands of faces have come and gone and I've had legit real gfs and relationships with the small number of stars I was able to connect with. At my peak I was going 5 days in a 7 day span, I've literally spent thousands in there, maybe 10's of, I have no idea. These days I'm mostly retired from Tijuana (but I do monger throughout the world still). I do make it there once or twice a year especially, late in the year, to give some Christmas money to a couple waiters that go back to the beginning with me. All the times I was too drunk to look after myself, there were always the waiters there to look after me and I never had to worry about getting hurt or ripped off.
So I met Frieda on Fri, tiny (maybe 90 lbs wet), no chest, 18 yo with nerdy glasses. She's got a hot spinner nerd vibe for sure. We got along great as we drank together, I always buy them several drinks to test the energy. At some point the topic of all night came up. She wanted to charge me the half hour rate every half hour for the rest of her evening. I don't remember what time it was but it turned out to be something like $1500. I laughed hysterically.Bro,
I hate to tell you but Frieda has a pimp, that's why she acts that way. I went with her one and it was bad as she was a clock watcher and wouldn't even finish me off for with a hand job without asking for more money $50. I was pretty upset and never repeated with her.
A friend went to Vegas last night and had a GFE with a gal from a club and paid $300/ HR. This is with US living costs.
Gals in Vegas were $300 10 years ago too. So no real inflation.
HK gals charging $100/30 minut = $200/ HR. Just not justified given lower living costs in Mexico.
So true. I don't understand why women with such horrible deformed ass implants walk around there. Who gives them tips or arribas?
And I agree there are too man meseros.Meseros are a pain in the ass. I don't think anyone that's had that experience likes it.
Everything in the bars is overpriced, and I don't expect that to change. There were reports earlier in here that said that management was telling the girls to stand firm at $100 per session. The only thing that I think will fix that will be the other bars severely cutting into HKs business, but I just don't see that happening. Chicago and Adelitas are a very noticeable tier below, and there's no real trade-off for it.
A few friends just got back, and they are still enamored with the place. They see it as a quick getaway or "staycation" since they live in Orange County. $50 Suites, $100 girls, and $5-8 drinks is perfect for them.
HK is a great place to bang a hot chica and stay in the Zona Rosa and party with friends and have a good time. That's basically it. You pay a premium for convenience and selection. I've been enjoying the alley and escorts for the past year. Much better value for the money.
Rainman306
11-29-21, 03:53
Though HK prices are generally better than USA, it's not really so great compared to a value deal you may score in the USA or the rest of Tijuana. Plus SoCal guys tend to get higher salaries & like to throw money around and that is like 60% of the customer base.
I'm starting to believe many Tijuana visitors go for 5-10 hours with no overnight room. When you stay multiple days / nights you have to ration money a bit more. You'll want a girl in the morning when you wake up, then later in the afternoon, then maybe around 7/8 then again at 11 - you may go asleep wake up at 4 am & realize the club is still open & want another girl. Not to mention if a girl sucks in a bad way you'll be storming down for another one ASAP.
BlackThought
11-29-21, 03:59
A friend went to Vegas last night and had a GFE with a gal from a club and paid $300/ HR. This is with US living costs.
Gals in Vegas were $300 10 years ago too. So no real inflation.
HK gals charging $100/30 minut = $200/ HR. Just not justified given lower living costs in Mexico.
So true. I don't understand why women with such horrible deformed ass implants walk around there. Who gives them tips or arribas?
And I agree there are too man meseros.Was the girl as hot as HK girls?
BlackThought
11-29-21, 04:00
You will have a very tough time getting BBBJ at Loutron. It is very mechanical as the gals see plenty of clients per day. You may get it but will have to throw a hefty tip up front and request. Good luck.Yeah. That's what I've heard is that they do not offer BBBJ, but they have the hottest girls in Medellin.
I'm hoping this omicron variant does not close the Tijuana border.
A friend went to Vegas last night and had a GFE with a gal from a club and paid $300/ HR. This is with US living costs.
Gals in Vegas were $300 10 years ago too. So no real inflation.
HK gals charging $100/30 minut = $200/ HR. Just not justified given lower living costs in Mexico.
So true. I don't understand why women with such horrible deformed ass implants walk around there. Who gives them tips or arribas?
And I agree there are too man meseros.It will only get worse from here. I'm talking 2-3 yrs from now. The golden years are behind us. I try to keep a cool perspective when in Tijuana, but I've gone other monger spots. Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, and even the p2 p in Spain is solid now when compared to how TJ is now. Vegas doesn't look so bad anymore either lol.
Federico69
11-29-21, 04:29
Went to HK with a wingman Friday. We arrived at HK buy 5 PM, went Chavelas to get a drink. Lots of girls sitting around looking at their phones. We went to sit at the main stage and I found myself wondering if any of the handles from this forum were in the club. Very much appreciate all the tips I have received. I am not a total noob but I definitely am not as experienced as the senior members.
Plenty of new talent in the club but nothing really struck my fancy. We tipped and groped the dancers, one girl looked interesting that strutted around with her panties in her mouth but the rest are probably of the "pro" variety.
Do you find that if you see the girl on stage that she gives worse service than the ones that don't dance?
I had an experience with a HK girl I call "coffee girl" she is very hot and walks around dressed like a secretary and drinks out of a to-go coffee cup. However she was not great in the booth, I still took her upstairs. I enjoyed looking at her but her performance was lacking, encouraging me to cum quickly and then asking for a tip. I did neither, do not recommend her unless you can loosen her up better than I did.
I usually like to do an hour but since reading this forum I have learned that you have to test short-term first and then repeat if it is good.
Wingman went to get lapdances and I went to get another drink, still nothing I really wanted. I then asked him if we could go to Adelitas as I have had two great sessions with girls from there and wanted to see if they were working. As we passed through Chavelas I saw a cute little brunette sitting by herself wearing a yellow glow-in-the-dark bikini. I think to myself that I have never gotten a lap dance to Banda music before and that might be fun to try. I join her and try to talk a little bit of "strip club Spanish" with her but it's hard because of the loud music. She gives off good vibes though, responsive to touch smiling and friendly so I buy her a ficha and put her on my lap. Soon I am rubbing my hands all over her legs, back and thighs and she is having fun. It escalates to a full on make-out session with lots of DFK and groping, her rubbing my cock and me sucking on her nipples. She drinks slowly and is a very good girl. It helps that her mouth is mostly on my lips rather than the glass. Goes by Itzi in the club, told me it was her second day there whether that is true or not but she seems to still have fun doing her work. We then leave to go Arriba, despite the great chemistry I want to test her short term first and we get the standard room special. She does not ask for money upfront or ask for a tip. The guy at the check in for the room does however and I give him a couple of extra bucks. This bought me another 10 minutes or so before the knock came for a total of 45 minutes.
When we get to the room we get naked and shower together. Sex with Itzi is fantastic we do everything covered and I didn't ask for BBBJ. I have gotten them three times from other chicas without asking and I don't turn them down. It's definitely better bare but Itzi's CBJ was enthusiastic with eye contact, good use of hands, ball sucking, and took her time. She is submissive and follows instructions which I like. I then lay her down in mish to enter her, grinding on her clit and making her moan like my good little working girl. I make sure to tell her that is what she is, whether she understands or not. I look forward to teaching her some nice phrases to say back to me when we play again. We go through variations of mish with her legs on my shoulders and pinning her hands down, looking down on her pretty face as she moans "que rico" and bucks under me is a favorite memory from the session. I then flip her to doggy style, pulling her hair and spanking her. She has a big tattoo on her back, a touch of naughty to her sweet country girl persona.
I then finish her in prone bone as she rubs her clit while I am fucking her. She does this throughout the session as we fuck or kiss with her jerking me off with one hand and pleasuring herself with the other.
The session ends with a knock on the door and we jump in the shower again. She waits for me inside Chavelas while I go through security, and we kiss goodbye, I give her a small propina and got her number. She is worth a repeat session and that will be a first for me. Have gotten numbers before but have never been able to hook it up for a repeat as these girls come and go and I go once a month or less to Tijuana.
Wingman and I head over to Adelitas to see what's up. Not many girls but a nice big Colombian culo is sitting by the stage and go over to give her some tips and get my hands on it. It is spectacular and if I hadn't had the wingman I would have taken her upstairs too but he wanted to get back to the US. Probably a good thing as I stayed under my budget for once. Her name is Luna, she seemed great in the club if you like big firm round asses she is your girl. No implants here.
We head to the border and breeze past the line as we both have sentry passes.
Be nice to Itzi if you see her at Chavelas, give her propinas or take her Arriba. YMMV but she is a sweet girl that deserves the money a lot more than some of the other scaammy chicas in the club. I can't wait to go back and hopefully repeat with her.
Face 7.
Body 8.
Personality 10.
Attitude 10.
Service 10.
Happy Mongering!
You will have a very tough time getting BBBJ at Loutron. It is very mechanical as the gals see plenty of clients per day. You may get it but will have to throw a hefty tip up front and request. Good luck.Yup this guy gets it. The Loutron girls are higher tier and also know they are.
Though HK prices are generally better than USA, it's not really so great compared to a value deal you may score in the USA or the rest of Tijuana. Plus SoCal guys tend to get higher salaries & like to throw money around and that is like 60% of the customer base.
I'm starting to believe many Tijuana visitors go for 5-10 hours with no overnight room. When you stay multiple days / nights you have to ration money a bit more. You'll want a girl in the morning when you wake up, then later in the afternoon, then maybe around 7/8 then again at 11 - you may go asleep wake up at 4 am & realize the club is still open & want another girl. Not to mention if a girl sucks in a bad way you'll be storming down for another one ASAP.Shoot I am heased to Vegas tomorrow I guess I will let you guys know what I find. Too bad about Tijuana, it is pricy now. I got a few old regulars I bang from my old mongering days so I only went to hk one night. It is not the same for me as before because I am retired now and on a fixed income, but the zona was glorious circa 2000, my favorite memories.
Though HK prices are generally better than USA, it's not really so great compared to a value deal you may score in the USA or the rest of Tijuana. Plus SoCal guys tend to get higher salaries & like to throw money around and that is like 60% of the customer base.
I'm starting to believe many Tijuana visitors go for 5-10 hours with no overnight room. When you stay multiple days / nights you have to ration money a bit more. You'll want a girl in the morning when you wake up, then later in the afternoon, then maybe around 7/8 then again at 11 - you may go asleep wake up at 4 am & realize the club is still open & want another girl. Not to mention if a girl sucks in a bad way you'll be storming down for another one ASAP.I would say 60% of the people in Hong Kong don't go often, so they can spend 1000 a day. Friday Saturday night there was guys walking around throwing money around that wasnt even making it near the girls on the bars. I was walking over money all night. At one point I was not even near a girl and saw a 20 on the floor. I wouldn't even pick it up because of all the stuff I read on here with management watching on video. A waiter came and grabbed it. Later on a management came and made a girl stop talking to me of I didbt buy her a drink. I know some guys say that's not the rules but its reality. I had only talked to her for 20 seconds but had talked to her 20 minutes earlier. But yeah some guys can't spend enough money. Ypu got to keep in mind how much free money is flowing out there. Just think of the billions in free unemployment money with. Some people made millions doing that. Then you get the free billions in covid millions. I've read stories after stories of people who don't even own a business getting 4, 5, 10 million in covid business Grant's. Of course then they hide the money.
HK and the bars are just a starting point for Tijuana. It's more for tourists and beginners to get in the game but there's way better service options out there. You just have to adapt and know where to look. Plenty of gems in the underground esco scene for half of bar prices. Tijuana is such a big city and there's always going to be providers coming and going. HK is still an amazing bar and just a great place to party but it doesn't have to be ground zero for service.
FilthyBeaver
11-29-21, 19:49
On the contrary that explains a lot and now I don't need to question myself. Thanks for the info.
HK has gotten a little too wild for me but I'll refrain from talking about how it used to be. Now I just go to people watch and say Hi to some old friends. Haven't been laid the last several times I've been there as the cute ones from poor villages just looking for some money have all turned into hardened pros. Not my scene anymore.
Bro,
I hate to tell you but Frieda has a pimp, that's why she acts that way. I went with her one and it was bad as she was a clock watcher and wouldn't even finish me off for with a hand job without asking for more money $50. I was pretty upset and never repeated with her.
Might be in HK tonight. I'll probably be in a grey hat and grey hoodie, if you see me feel free to say Hi. Was just there Saturday night, street action was decent, HK was packed as usual. Was looking for a particular girl but she hasn't been there the last couple weeks, probably already headed home for the holidays. Found a sweet, pretty 22 year old named Holly or something to that affect. Very light skinned, almost white with greenish eyes. Didn't look like your typical working girl. Said she was from Mexico City which caught me off guard because she does not look like she's from that area at all. I told her that and she laughed and says everyone tells her that. Asked how she got into the biz and she said her sister works there also and recommended it to her. Long story short she charged $100, usually I try to get them down to $80 but she was very pretty and gave a nice lap dance during our drink downstairs. She was very sensual and passionate in the sack, again, not like your average working girl. You could tell she was barely breaking into the business. Well worth the money imo. Unfortunately she said she's headed back to Mexico City for the holidays this week already. She was just over here as some type of trial run I guess. Hopefully she comes back so I can enjoy her a few more times before she turns into a hardened veteran.
I got charged $30 for the room. I guess you can't decline the drinks and save yourself $10 anymore? Whatever, I just paid it as I had money to burn and was in a good mood. Normally I have the time to haggle. Stopped by tropical, didn't see anything worth having. Chicago had a couple of nice chicks but they were already taken by guys buying them fichas. Adelitas had a couple nice options but I was still spent from my time with Holly. On my way back to the car started getting the urge to tap something again and checked out the alleys. Found a cute, short girl across the street from HK back entrance who quoted me $20. Couldn't turn it down and had a quick session before finally departing. Thought I'the be stuck at the border for an hour around midnight but surprisingly only took 15 minutes.
Captain Solo
11-30-21, 16:50
I was drinking with a couple bros in club Friese in Bogota. These guys have been mongering all over the world. They said flat out, Friese was lame and boring comparing to Hong Kong, which is the sexiest and most exciting club in the world. These guys have been mongering extensively and know what they talk about.
In Friese most girls were older and heavy. I waited for a spinner with a slim body only to find out she had a broken vocal cord of a trannie. She wanted 90 K Cops or $23 but I was turned off. Next night went to Troya, took a Colombian spinner to a tiny dumpy room. She was horny, tight and wet, huffing, puffing, really enjoying sex, then popped hard and oozed dead fish. Disgusted me.
The street scene in Santa Fe, Bogota is lively with hundreds hot young spinners, mostly Venezuelans, some nice, clean, pretty like dolls. I decided not to go in bars again and get assaulted by their chunky old women and loud music. Took a couple hot young street girls in bars, bought them $1.25 beers and party that way, more fun then take them to hotel for $10 pops.
Hong Kong club is well-known among mongers internationally. HK girls have gotten jaded like they are God's best gifts to mankind. I would go in HK to drink and party with wingmen, but I hate to pay $100 for cold, mechanical sessions with plastic dolls who act like they were doing me favors. I only do known regulars with discounts and occasionally exceptionally attractive new girls.
Tijuana streets have many young girls as hot as HK girls with better attitudes of real Mexicanas. Once they get to know you, they can be very friendly and sexy in bed like real humans for 1/5 HK's prices.
I am finally making my maiden voyage to HK next week. Plan to walk across the border, probably walk to Zona Norte and then grab a cab back later than night. If all I want to do is take lap dances and not go to rooms for full-on sex, are girls cool with that? Any idea what to expect for a lap dance or can you keep the girls in a booth by the hour? What would they charge? This is my first time so please go easy on their newbie questions.
AdventureSteve
11-30-21, 20:39
Rooms were close to $18 (don't remember) - HK started offering drinks for girls before heading into rooms. This is a change after covid. But enjoyed every bit of it with tall 9 model girl (forgot the name).
Cocr Brotheler
11-30-21, 23:02
Oh Yes they are!
I had to go through 4 chicas last night to get a good one! 1st one I just wanted to feel her up and see how she like but instantly was asking for a ficha and I denied continuing her on with $1 tips. After just 2 of them she left. The 2nd one a 35 year old from Cancun but no kids and nice tight little body wouldn't back down from $100. She was nice and all but wouldn't kiss in the club and got anxious when I went for her crotch. The 3rd one I just picked from bar and foolishly agreed to go up when she said "let's go" an cause she seemed like a lot of fun. I fell for it but also didn't pay her a ficha. When got to room she requested payment up front of which I politely declined and offered to show her the money for after. She really huffy and pissed (not lashing out at me because feared I bet I would call security). I even offered 50 pesos consolation on her way out and she declined snootingly. Her name was Mikkala from Guadalajara (young and wearing pink bikini hair in pony tail). Avoid her at all costs. I did let security that logged her in know about this. He agreed with me and fist bumped me a few times. What really sucks is some stupid gringos must be going for this or else she wouldn't try. I've had a couple try before payment up front but complied and still had service with me. You know the chicas are getting super aggressive when they walk out but I don't give a PHUCK I Go on to the next!
The 4th and final try in HK before I explored Tropical was Andrea from CDMX. She was great. Great chemistry, kissing some tongue in the club and plenty of letting me caress her kitty out in the open! Did pay her cien cause felt she would be worth it and she was. Stayed nearly an hour and did everything I asked. Her face not the most pretty but smoking thin tight bod especially for a mother of two. And had a good baby Dr. cause C-scars barely noticeable. She offered for a TLN for another cien if I took her to dinner but I absolutely spend my energy on her and exhausted preferring to head back across the border to my nice comfy quiet hotel room in I.B.
So overall at least from an energy and effort level HK not worth at least yest. Today I think I will get a SG at first then maybe attempt another HK. if I can find my gem from yest. she offered me a good deal for repeat!
Over and out. I need head back down now cause need come back early to be ready for virtual work tomorrow at 6AM. At least I get off at 3pm each day and can head back down.
Captain Solo
11-30-21, 23:52
Good job Cocr. Glad you got a good session out of 4 girls.
We need to stand firm on prices and services or the little girls will walk all over us, make us kiss their big asses and pay high prices before fucking their loose, dead-fish pussies.
I am finally making my maiden voyage to HK next week. Plan to walk across the border, probably walk to Zona Norte and then grab a cab back later than night. If all I want to do is take lap dances and not go to rooms for full-on sex, are girls cool with that? Any idea what to expect for a lap dance or can you keep the girls in a booth by the hour? What would they charge? This is my first time so please go easy on their newbie questions.It's been a minute since I had a lap dance, but if you've never been to HK, you'll be kinda shocked at what you can get away with in the booths. You'll probably drop $40-50 on a good multi-song dance, and there's no "she can touch you, but you can't touch her" rules- feel free to be hands on. Don't be surprised if you get offers for her to give you a CBJ in there, or if you guys get rolling for her to just bang you in there. Girls that give great service in those booths, are usually really, really solid upstairs if you're ever interested in the future.
If you dig through the forum, you'll find plenty of posts of other people saying similar things.
LuvMexicanas
12-01-21, 01:31
We need to stand firm on prices and services or the little girls will walk all over us, make us kiss their big asses and pay high prices before fucking their loose, dead-fish pussies.One week Hong Kong girls are sweet smelling sexy chicas and then the next week this. One thing about chicas is they have trouble making up their minds.
I am finally making my maiden voyage to HK next week. Plan to walk across the border, probably walk to Zona Norte and then grab a cab back later than night. If all I want to do is take lap dances and not go to rooms for full-on sex, are girls cool with that? Any idea what to expect for a lap dance or can you keep the girls in a booth by the hour? What would they charge? This is my first time so please go easy on their newbie questions.You should not walk to HK. The bus pulls up every 5 seconds to Centro. Its 75 cents or 10 pesos. It will drop you off much better area to be walking in. And you can go to HK to hang out not bang chicks. I go to HK 40 nights a year and maybe took 3 upstairs in my life from that bar. You have to ask the girls if they want to do lap dance. Tell them ahead of time you have a girlfriend and can't have sex. Otherwise they will beg you to end the lap dance 5 seconds into it, to go to the hotel room. Tip the guy running the lap dance 2 bucks ahead of time so he doesn't rush you. Don't tip the girl during the dance. If it was good tip after. It's probably going to not be good by USA lap dance room standards. I do the lap dances enough to say 80% of the girls are are as t out terrible and I can't wait for the guy to open the door and be finished with it. They typically spend the whole dance asking you to go upstairs in the hotel. Some barely want you to touch. In general I'd say don't take anyone to lap dance until, you've bought a drink for her, and she's flirting with you, to the point that everyone's looking at you 2 thinking you should get a room. That's the girl to take for lap dance. Randomly picking a girl is a waste of money it's like 25 bucks before even tipping the girl because you have to tip the guys 2 bucks or it's going to be quick.
Oh Yes they are!
I had to go through 4 chicas last night to get a good one! 1st one I just wanted to feel her up and see how she like but instantly was asking for a ficha and I denied continuing her on with $1 tips. After just 2 of them she left.
The 2nd one a 35 year old from Cancun but no kids and nice tight little body wouldn't back down from $100. She was nice and all but wouldn't kiss in the club and got anxious when I went for her crotch.
The 3rd one I just picked from bar and foolishly agreed to go up when she said "let's go" an cause she seemed like a lot of fun. I When got to room she requested payment up front of which I politely declined and offered to show her the money for after. She really huffy and pissed (
What really sucks is some stupid gringos must be going for this or else she wouldn't try.
The 4th.Thanks for the report- it re-enforces my experiences.
I too refuse to pay up-front. Very rarely do they walk out.
And if I kick them out after seeing a street girl's body I do pay them 100 pesos.
More of us need to be firm and demanding to ensure we get our money's worth.
Too many gringos are fine with lousy service for high price because they compare to US prices.
Good job Cocr. Glad you got a good session out of 4 girls.
We need to stand firm on prices and services or the little girls will walk all over us, make us kiss their big asses and pay high prices before fucking their loose, dead-fish pussies.Hilarious. Thanks for chiming in from Central America Captain.
Hope you are having a great time!
Cocr Brotheler, is Andrea from Cdmx used to stand outside HK? Light skin, curly / perm hair, she was new in Aug.
MarksOfMagic
12-01-21, 17:22
I am noticing the influx of ladies inside HK. On a non peak night, fair estimate would be 200, maybe 300?meaning some girls will go all night without a drink or work. A major abundance, a flood and over supply sort of speak of chicas. With that observation, I figured girls are likely to go upstairs for less than $100 going rate. Basic economics. Most are in Tijuana trying to make extra cash for the holidays. I succeeded, asking a chica for $60. She was from Micholcan, 7/7.5 looks and bod. Stood by the entrance of the entrance, near the woman's bathroom. After my 35 minutes. A little dissatisfied because she didn't want to give head but willing to get pounded in 3 positions. I guess you get what you pay for. I went back into the club. Girls looked tired, it was 2 am. I needed another chica just for the head game that I struck out on previously. This time I offered 50 just for head from one of the girls standing at the gauntlet. MILF body type. She was a decent side. Fake booty and boobs from Sinaloa but the lips were juicy solid 7. By far the best 20 minutes of head. She got wet and offered sexo, but I was out of ammo after the pop in her mouth. Woke up the next morning and went back to the club. Smelled like fabulous cleaning agent, the purple bottle with a harsh chemical smell. 1 girl on the pole. 10 others sitting around. It was 9 am. It was time to go back home.
One week Hong Kong girls are sweet smelling sexy chicas and then the next week this. One thing about chicas is they have trouble making up their minds.LOL yeah Solo can sound like a advertisement for HK 80% of the time, to the point some posters are convinced he is a shill, but then he blasts the hk world, from the girls to the Medeiros to even the food at Azul. I guess he drives 3 hours to Tijuana each way so if his night sucks its gona piss him off a bit.
I am finally making my maiden voyage to HK next week. Plan to walk across the border, probably walk to Zona Norte and then grab a cab back later than night. If all I want to do is take lap dances and not go to rooms for full-on sex, are girls cool with that? Any idea what to expect for a lap dance or can you keep the girls in a booth by the hour? What would they charge? This is my first time so please go easy on their newbie questions.The lap dance room might not be that relevant in HK. You can just buy the girl a $10 drink and she'll dance and grind on you for about 15 minutes. It's essentially a $10 lap dance. Everyone's mileage varies but kissing and intimate stuff is on the table with the right girl. 4 drinks is $40 for an hour. Not bad when compared to what actual lap dances usually cost.
Cocr Brotheler
12-02-21, 01:50
Cocr Brotheler, is Andrea from Cdmx used to stand outside HK? Light skin, curly / perm hair, she was new in Aug.I don't know if that is her but the description sounds about right. Andrea looked a little older in the face but bod fine. I saw her yest entertaining a client and the next minute poof proly went Arriba! She's a good business woman!
Cocr Brotheler
12-02-21, 01:57
Thank you Capt, Rambo et al!
Mikkala Guadalajara proly thinking I was un-studied in the biz and never been anywhere else.
I've only had one other like this in CR more than 10 years ago. Picked that one up inside a strip club and threw her ass out my room threatening to call security she was so pissed. Ever since in CR only picked up chicas from the Del Rey mostly in the mornings and early day or Sportsmens Lodge where they are screened. Also like MPs cause don't usually have any surprises like this. When I was frequenting CR occasionally I could get an MP girl to come my room at Amistad Hotel for great value ($40 U.S. for an hour).
Cocr Brotheler
12-02-21, 02:14
Got really lucky yest with this chica named Brisa from Tijuana. She looked more like she was from down country (Indian looks) but I luv a lot of them darker Indian girls. Even looked a little like a Filipina (hint hint for my future bride hehehehe) when I retire in P. I. Sex machine!
I wasn't as rushed as the day before (1st day on the ground) or tired and could check out the chicas better walking around rather than sitting in a booth being an open target. I approached several gals with ceremonial dollars and didn't get much luv from them until I met Brisa. She grinded on me real good, feely my Peter real good and even open mouth kissed me standing up so I invited her to a booth for a drink. She easily negotiated down to $80 so off we went. She also let me caress her kitty all I want at the table and even to put my hands down into her tight little panties! In the room she was full on GFE all over me and I even came during regular sex this time since was just like a GF. She didn't stay too long after but I was very satisfied after too long a streak of not being able to finish doing it inside a vagina.
She is only 19 is why I think got so good service she wasn't jaded yet. Description: thin spinner with minimal baby fat and darker features.
Cocr Brotheler
12-02-21, 02:28
Hey it is what it is but I just confirming I saw two that definitely looked like they were born as males.
"I identify as a he or him"
Cocr Brotheler
12-02-21, 04:29
Pretty sure the new construction on the side of Cascadas is an expansion or perhaps an expansion of Hotel Coahuila?
I am finally making my maiden voyage to HK next week. Plan to walk across the border, probably walk to Zona Norte and then grab a cab back later than night. If all I want to do is take lap dances and not go to rooms for full-on sex, are girls cool with that? Any idea what to expect for a lap dance or can you keep the girls in a booth by the hour? What would they charge? This is my first time so please go easy on their newbie questions.A lot of good advice about the lap dance. And it's true that you can have some awesome groping, kissing and other stuff with the "right" lap dance girl just at a table or in the bar somewhere. I will mention just a few value opportunities if you take them to the private lapdance room. If you have a VIP membership the first dance is like $13 so it is discounted quite a bit. And make sure the girl will take off all her clothes in there. Some won't agree to this but many will especially if you offer a little tip. It's kind of amazing to take that $100 you would have burned taking a girl upstairs and just buy 10 different girls drinks and have a hell of a good time.
G.
Big Magick
12-02-21, 11:52
I see a lot of guys on here and other places complaining that they get bad service. Some guys even saying 75-90% of sessions are bad! That's insane and I would stop going to the zona if that was the case for me. Honestly the only times I have bad sessions now is because 1. I want a trophy girl and I know going in she's going to give mechanical service or 2. I ignore my checklist of red flags. I honestly don't really even buy girls fichas anymore. I can feel them out just standing and talking to them. I will say maybe because most guys on here are almost twice my age it seems so that could have something to do with me getting better service. I usually get everything I want, kissing, any position, biting. I know its all fake but they put on a great show for me. Just this weekend a girl BBBJ me without even asking, maybe because I gave her DATY without asking. Anyways the few bad sessions I've had were very annoying and if I experienced them as much as you guys say you do I would not go to the zona.
BrotherMouzone
12-02-21, 18:21
I see a lot of guys on here and other places complaining that they get bad service. Some guys even saying 75-90% of sessions are bad! That's insane and I would stop going to the zona if that was the case for me. Honestly the only times I have bad sessions now is because 1. I want a trophy girl and I know going in she's going to give mechanical service or 2. I ignore my checklist of red flags. I honestly don't really even buy girls fichas anymore. I can feel them out just standing and talking to them. I will say maybe because most guys on here are almost twice my age it seems so that could have something to do with me getting better service. I usually get everything I want, kissing, any position, biting. I know its all fake but they put on a great show for me. Just this weekend a girl BBBJ me without even asking, maybe because I gave her DATY without asking. Anyways the few bad sessions I've had were very annoying and if I experienced them as much as you guys say you do I would not go to the zona.There are going to be some bad sessions. That's just part of the game LOL. My strategy is to find a few girls I'm comfortable with (I. E. , who I know will consistently provide good sessions) and become repeat customers with them, branching off occasionally to try out other girls. But most of the girls I mess with at this point are girls I've done previously. Downside to that is every time I come to the club, they usually spot me pretty quickly and sort of expect me to buy them at least 1-2 drinks and take them arriba. The more girls that are becoming regular customers the more of a problem it is even with me only being down there a few times a year.
I see a lot of guys on here and other places complaining that they get bad service. Some guys even saying 75-90% of sessions are bad! That's insane and I would stop going to the zona if that was the case for me. Honestly the only times I have bad sessions now is because 1. I want a trophy girl and I know going in she's going to give mechanical service or 2. I ignore my checklist of red flags. I honestly don't really even buy girls fichas anymore. I can feel them out just standing and talking to them. I will say maybe because most guys on here are almost twice my age it seems so that could have something to do with me getting better service. I usually get everything I want, kissing, any position, biting. I know its all fake but they put on a great show for me. Just this weekend a girl BBBJ me without even asking, maybe because I gave her DATY without asking. Anyways the few bad sessions I've had were very annoying and if I experienced them as much as you guys say you do I would not go to the zona.I agree, I know it's hard for the new guys that are making the first trip to Tijuana and they want to have the best experience but no matter how much they read on this site and follow suggestions it is always YMMV. Nothing is automatic, when I was younger it was easier. Or if you are into getting high you might have better luck with some girls. Or it could just be your attitude and how the girl vibes with you. Especially if you don't speak the language. At least now with the translation on you phone makes it a little better but it's still not the same.
I agree, I know it's hard for the new guys that are making the first trip to Tijuana and they want to have the best experience but no matter how much they read on this site and follow suggestions it is always YMMV. Nothing is automatic, when I was younger it was easier. Or if you are into getting high you might have better luck with some girls. Or it could just be your attitude and how the girl vibes with you. Especially if you don't speak the language. At least now with the translation on you phone makes it a little better but it's still not the same.I am youngish and not obese and when I go to the club it's obvious some girls would be a complete waste of time. It doesn't even have to be any of the factors involving me, it could just be she's having a rough day. Guys should really try to pick up on all the cues, not just the sexual ones. I will also say that in my opinion, it's not specific tips from this forum but rather general social skills that will consistently get mongers more bang for their buck.
Big Magick
12-03-21, 06:40
I agree, I know it's hard for the new guys that are making the first trip to Tijuana and they want to have the best experience but no matter how much they read on this site and follow suggestions it is always YMMV. Nothing is automatic, when I was younger it was easier. Or if you are into getting high you might have better luck with some girls. Or it could just be your attitude and how the girl vibes with you. Especially if you don't speak the language. At least now with the translation on you phone makes it a little better but it's still not the same.I completely forgot that on top of all I mentioned I'm also fluent in Spanish. Its hard to judge someone when you don't speak the same language. Being able to speak to me probably makes them feel more at ease. I hear a lot from the girls that they are scared of gringos after the murder in Adelitas. Its hard to feel like a puta when you're banging someone that doesn't even speak the same language as you. Guess I'm lucky.
Thursday night. HK still full of woman. 2nd floor is open. The girls are still outnumbering guys by a lot. Compared to last 3 years that's not common. Normally half the time not 1 girl talks to me when its busy. Now they all say Hello. Good time to go.
The chances are high anyones first trip to the Zona Norte is going to be a lot of fun. Imo first timers just worried about coming to Tijuana.
I have brought many first timers here. They usually start looking for specific things the following trips but the first trip is a lot of fun just seeing the adult candyland the first time.
Looks will have a role always but imo Mexico in general looks means less than any where else I have been.
Like said the key it picking up the social cues. Being respectful (good to do anywhere in Mexico) and having fun. Have a positive vibe.
I am old and fat and I have extremely good times. Hot young latina girls consistantly give me the GFE / pse / mix experience.
When I was young and in good shape I had some fun times in the clubs. Lots of after club sex. These Zona experiences are easily most of my top experiences in life.
I am youngish and not obese and when I go to the club it's obvious some girls would be a complete waste of time. It doesn't even have to be any of the factors involving me, it could just be she's having a rough day. Guys should really try to pick up on all the cues, not just the sexual ones. I will also say that in my opinion, it's not specific tips from this forum but rather general social skills that will consistently get mongers more bang for their buck.
Haven't been back in two years. Is the price still $18 plus $1 for extras? I read somewhere on this forum that it might be $30 now or you might be required to buy drinks? Waiting for drinks would be a total buzzkill with the limited time given.
Federico69
12-03-21, 19:36
Haven't been back in two years. Is the price still $18 plus $1 for extras? I read somewhere on this forum that it might be $30 now or you might be required to buy drinks? Waiting for drinks would be a total buzzkill with the limited time given.Right now it is $30 for the short term with 1 drink for you and 1 for the girl. There is a bar right there so there is no wait to get it. Tip the guy who checks you in for the room and you should get a little extra time before he knocks.
Member #4730
12-04-21, 03:11
Right now it is $30 for the short term with 1 drink for you and 1 for the girl. There is a bar right there so there is no wait to get it. Tip the guy who checks you in for the room and you should get a little extra time before he knocks.Why not throw a $20 on the table and see if they give you the room? It has been a few months, but I just put a $20 on the counter and they gave me room without drinks. Also the drinks downstairs are still $4 for soda, water, cerveza. I recall someone said they increased prices, but still the same. The live in GF that is an ex-HK bar girl somehow fucked up how I spend time in the club as she is so intense. I just order food and tip dancers now. I still manage to come out of the club with the HK smell.
Member #4730
12-04-21, 03:21
The chances are high anyones first trip to the Zona Norte is going to be a lot of fun. Imo first timers just worried about coming to Tijuana.
I have brought many first timers here. They usually start looking for specific things the following trips but the first trip is a lot of fun just seeing the adult candyland the first time.I agree first times are hard to replicate, but Zona Norte is nothing like Pattaya. I recall going to Zona Norte first and then when I went to Pattaya, I was blown away that a whole city was dedicated to mongering. Not sure what it looks like now since I haven't been back in more than a decade.
Member #4730
12-04-21, 03:28
I agree, I know it's hard for the new guys that are making the first trip to Tijuana and they want to have the best experience but no matter how much they read on this site and follow suggestions it is always YMMV. Nothing is automatic, when I was younger it was easier. Or if you are into getting high you might have better luck with some girls. Or it could just be your attitude and how the girl vibes with you. Especially if you don't speak the language. At least now with the translation on you phone makes it a little better but it's still not the same.I am told it is all about what kind of vibes you give off and chemistry. I don't speak fluent Spanish, but have met some wonderful ladies all over the world where we didn't speak the same language. If chemistry is there, then sky is the limit. I agree that if it progresses, then someone will have to learn the others language for a deeper connection. I think that is the part of the excitement in the hobby that you don't know what to expect and nothing is guaranteed. Everyone hopes to bat a 100, but majority of the time chemistry may be off and women treat it as business. Most probably prefer that it is just business as having a connection takes you down a rabbit hole.
AerodinamicDog
12-05-21, 02:16
I see a lot of guys on here and other places complaining that they get bad service. Some guys even saying 75-90% of sessions are bad! That's insane and I would stop going to the zona if that was the case for me. Honestly the only times I have bad sessions now is because 1. I want a trophy girl and I know going in she's going to give mechanical service or 2. I ignore my checklist of red flags. I honestly don't really even buy girls fichas anymore. I can feel them out just standing and talking to them. I will say maybe because most guys on here are almost twice my age it seems so that could have something to do with me getting better service. I usually get everything I want, kissing, any position, biting. I know its all fake but they put on a great show for me. Just this weekend a girl BBBJ me without even asking, maybe because I gave her DATY without asking. Anyways the few bad sessions I've had were very annoying and if I experienced them as much as you guys say you do I would not go to the zona.If you are fluent in Spanish it makes it a lot easier to get a rapport with them and hence a lot of extras they usually don't do in the bars, BBBJ is not in the menu unless you negotiate for it with most of the girls and the 30 minutes rate is not that appealing when you compare it with the escort scene, but the eye candy, the advantage of the bar scene is you can check out live the girls and even talk to them before going up, IMO HK and other bars are for trophy fucks but well worth it if you can check out live and select directly, that is the best for people searching for looks, but the value when it comes to service could be be better.
I am told it is all about what kind of vibes you give off and chemistry. Chemistry is overrated. I took women who said and did everything the right way, then got to the room and received horrible service.
I don't care about vides, chemistry, language, etc. For quick pop, I care about service. Now if I want long term GFE, that's different, then I would care about chemistry, language, likability, etc.
I am told it is all about what kind of vibes you give off and chemistry. I don't speak fluent Spanish, but have met some wonderful ladies all over the world where we didn't speak the same language. If chemistry is there, then sky is the limit. I agree that if it progresses, then someone will have to learn the others language for a deeper connection. I think that is the part of the excitement in the hobby that you don't know what to expect and nothing is guaranteed. Everyone hopes to bat a 100, but majority of the time chemistry may be off and women treat it as business. Most probably prefer that it is just business as having a connection takes you down a rabbit hole.Yes I am not the type that gives off good vibes in the bar until I find a girl I'm interested in and invite her for a drink. As for others I would go with are smiling all the time and just give a happy go lucky vibe that always worked very well for him.
Chemistry is overrated. I took women who said and did everything the right way, then got to the room and received horrible service.
I don't care about vides, chemistry, language, etc. For quick pop, I care about service. Now if I want long term GFE, that's different, then I would care about chemistry, language, likability, etc.The vibes we are talking about is how she vibes with you. The girl can sit with 10 different guys and if they all take her up the guy that she vibes with or has some type of connection with will get better service. Obviously all working girls don't fall into this category as some are all about business and just give the same robot service to all clients but you should be able to weed them out pretty fast.
Chemistry is overrated. I took women who said and did everything the right way, then got to the room and received horrible service.
I don't care about vides, chemistry, language, etc. For quick pop, I care about service. Now if I want long term GFE, that's different, then I would care about chemistry, language, likability, etc.You don't know what chemistry or good vibes means. Your example is not it.
Thursday night. HK still full of woman. 2nd floor is open. The girls are still outnumbering guys by a lot. Compared to last 3 years that's not common. Normally half the time not 1 girl talks to me when its busy. Now they all say Hello. Good time to go.I think after Thursday to Sunday the club is different with more girls. I was there on Monday / Tuesday last Month and could not find good girls. It was depressing. No wonder it has 70 % off with VIP. Even the Mama san could not find the girls to get up to stage and constantly hunting for girls to go up to stage and dance. Not going again on Monday / Tuesday.
I think after Thursday to Sunday the club is different with more girls. I was there on Monday / Tuesday last Month and could not find good girls. It was depressing. No wonder it has 70 % off with VIP. Even the Mama san could not find the girls to get up to stage and constantly hunting for girls to go up to stage and dance. Not going again on Monday / Tuesday.It's probably to do more with time of year, than it is the day of the week. I somehow always end up in Tijuana at the beginning of the week, and there's always something there when I swing by to grab a room at Cascadas. It's just not easy mode there like it is on the weekends- it's also not a gigantic sausage-fest and shit show like it is on the weekends too. Wednesday and Thursday might be the best of both worlds days to go.
December is rough, because a ton of the girls head back home for the holidays.
Member #4730
12-07-21, 02:27
I think after Thursday to Sunday the club is different with more girls. I was there on Monday / Tuesday last Month and could not find good girls. It was depressing. No wonder it has 70 % off with VIP. Even the Mama san could not find the girls to get up to stage and constantly hunting for girls to go up to stage and dance. Not going again on Monday / Tuesday.I love beginning of the week as it is better m to f ratio. Weekends seem like all the prettier ones are taken unless you have previous contact info of the ones you like. I mostly went over the summer and could imagine less ladies in the clubs and probably made their money and went home for holidays. I went last week and noticed they closed off many parts of the club and less ladies, but then again I was there around 8 pm and not sure if after 10 pm it picks up. The ladies work odd shifts.
Cocr Brotheler
12-07-21, 03:48
I went last Mon. & Tues. plus last Fri. and plenty of good finds each night IMO. I do not like weekends when packed to the gills and literally tripping over others and all smoke filled = hate that.
Next trip though I may try the escort route and get a room at Ticuan or similar. I like to spend more time with quality girls than quantity pump and dump but it is all good.
Dcrist0527
12-07-21, 04:26
Wednesday and Thursday might be the best of both worlds days to go.After a bit of a break, I'll be heading down both Wed and Thurs night. If anyone has plans to be there either night, PM me if you want to have a beer.
BlackThought
12-07-21, 06:04
Freija from Mexico City, claims to have been working here for only 6 months. Blonde with a fitness body, implants and probably ass implants too (not overly big).
She was riding me and holy shit the fucking room started smelling like fish! She wanted $60 extra for BBBJ, anal, CIM. Couldn't even cum cause I couldn't get the fishy smell out of my mind. Anal, no poop. $160 damage, kicked her out in 20 min. How the hell do you guys screen for the stinky pussy, god damn, my first one at HK and I get a stinky pussy already. I miss Germany.
BlackThought
12-07-21, 06:08
She didn't even shower after our session. These Mexicans need to learn feminine care / good hygiene. Damn if I keep running into fishy pussy, I am done mongering in Mexico. Also the lighting inside the club makes them look 10 years younger, her skin was not smooth under better lighting.
BlackThought
12-07-21, 07:57
I love beginning of the week as it is better m to f ratio. Weekends seem like all the prettier ones are taken unless you have previous contact info of the ones you like. I mostly went over the summer and could imagine less ladies in the clubs and probably made their money and went home for holidays. I went last week and noticed they closed off many parts of the club and less ladies, but then again I was there around 8 pm and not sure if after 10 pm it picks up. The ladies work odd shifts.8 pm Monday (today) seen about 80 girls. Going to grab something to eat then check things out again.
Freija from Mexico City, claims to have been working here for only 6 months. Blonde with a fitness body, implants and probably ass implants too (not overly big).
She was riding me and holy shit the fucking room started smelling like fish! She wanted $60 extra for BBBJ, anal, CIM. Couldn't even cum cause I couldn't get the fishy smell out of my mind. Anal, no poop. $160 damage, kicked her out in 20 min. How the hell do you guys screen for the stinky pussy, god damn, my first one at HK and I get a stinky pussy already. I miss Germany.Oh man that sucks. There were a couple of reports recently about how she was bad news.
Bunter Hiden
12-07-21, 18:30
Freija from Mexico City, claims to have been working here for only 6 months. Blonde with a fitness body, implants and probably ass implants too (not overly big).
She was riding me and holy shit the fucking room started smelling like fish! She wanted $60 extra for BBBJ, anal, CIM. Couldn't even cum cause I couldn't get the fishy smell out of my mind. Anal, no poop. $160 damage, kicked her out in 20 min. How the hell do you guys screen for the stinky pussy, god damn, my first one at HK and I get a stinky pussy already. I miss Germany.If it's some lady I have not seen before I insist on a quick shower first. I tell them I like slapping up their boobs but the first thing I do is slide my finger into the camel toe and turn to adjust the water and quickly sniff my finger. If I get mackerel my mind focuses on BJ solo. Sometimes during the intro drink downstairs you may be able to slide a finger slyly from the front. They resist but I tell them I am checking for "stubble trouble". Explain you like camel slides but stubble is like sand paper. Have found having a small bottle of hand sanitizer which I apply when they sit eases their mind. Some girls will tell you no touching the cooter after you have handled money. It's like condom switching and threesomes in a way. As a chica I would not want the same finger in me that was just in another girl two minutes ago. Also like the ladies that take these precautions.
Been in town for 3 days and it seems pointless to go anywhere else but HK. So far Sia is my fav but I got 4 more days to find a new favorite. What a town!
BlackThought
12-08-21, 02:11
Oh man that sucks. There were a couple of reports recently about how she was bad news.I think she slipped something in my drink too. I ended up at the hospital overnight with an IV cause I was getting dizzy / nauseous / vomiting. Rookie mistake leaving my drink unattended on the night stand. Please avoid her.
BlackThought
12-08-21, 02:14
She was taking her sweet ass time getting changed too. I threw up shortly after she left the room, I don't drink alcohol, so that's probably what saved me from blacking out.
Cocr Brotheler
12-08-21, 02:15
I did 4 last week and each one showered after. Before taking arriba I did a "snatch" scratch and sniff on each one. If a chica no let my try or fishy I quickly disengage. If I DATY on a chica I performed another more detailed examination. One chica threw her snatch up over my face without me even asking. I politely told her I wanted to eat it but did a visual exam first. She cool with it.
Rest in peace to Hong Kong's 2 free beers Monday and Tuesday coupon. They eliminated it. Just few years ago they had free lap dance coupons and the hotel was 11 dollars on Monday and Tuesday and sexo was 60 dollars.
Rest in peace to Hong Kong's 2 free beers Monday and Tuesday coupon. They eliminated it. Just few years ago they had free lap dance coupons and the hotel was 11 dollars on Monday and Tuesday and sexo was 60 dollars.With HK popularity lat few years -they reducing all incentive and hiking prices everyday. All room prices are at least 20 % higher than pre Covid. Inflation and supple and demand I guess.
Federico69
12-08-21, 20:04
Rest in peace to Hong Kong's 2 free beers Monday and Tuesday coupon. They eliminated it. Just few years ago they had free lap dance coupons and the hotel was 11 dollars on Monday and Tuesday and sexo was 60 dollars.What are the best / typical rates you have found on different days of the week?
We all know short-term on the weekends is typically $100 on the weekends with $80 possible. Has anyone done better recently?
The best I have gotten on an hour on the weekend is $170, I have also paid $200 when thinking with my little head. Never done a longer session than an hour but there is a girl I met last Saturday who is great, I did her twice first for 35 min and then a second one for an hour to close the night out.
I'd like to go on a Tuesday and get a discounted room for the night and get her for at least 90 minutes, what do you think is a reasonable deal on that day?
Rainman306
12-09-21, 00:58
The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.
Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:
1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.
1 hour - $100, $120, $140.
90 minutes - $120, $140, $160.
Multiple Hours / All night - $200-$220, $300-350, $400-500.
The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.
Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:
1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.
1 hour - $100, $120, $140.
90 minutes - $120, $140, $160.
Multiple Hours / All night - $200-$220, $300-350, $400-500.I read somewhere that back in the day, the girls at Adelitas would have to match your ST room cost, which might be why some girls at all the bars are willing to stay longer if you have your own room. I have no idea if this is the case everywhere, but it would make sense to me. We all get the clock-watching pros from time to time regardless of whether you have your own room or not, but I've found that the girls, in general, are much more easy going when you have your own overnight room.
I went last Mon. & Tues. plus last Fri. and plenty of good finds each night IMO. I do not like weekends when packed to the gills and literally tripping over others and all smoke filled = hate that.
Next trip though I may try the escort route and get a room at Ticuan or similar. I like to spend more time with quality girls than quantity pump and dump but it is all good.I was there Sat. Before last. It was awesome. The key to grabbing the hottest girls is to be first. On the weekend the money shift is 8 to 4. The best pickings are around 8-9. BTW new amazing hotel in Tijuana. Quartz Hotel, it's part of New City. It's the best one in Tijuana. Expensive $140. But totally worth it. Also, if you are doing HK you must get a room in Cascadas for the night. No knocks on the door ever! That part kills me every time, it always happens a second before my big finish and that ruins it every time.
BlackThought
12-09-21, 07:55
What are the best / typical rates you have found on different days of the week?
We all know short-term on the weekends is typically $100 on the weekends with $80 possible. Has anyone done better recently?
The best I have gotten on an hour on the weekend is $170, I have also paid $200 when thinking with my little head. Never done a longer session than an hour but there is a girl I met last Saturday who is great, I did her twice first for 35 min and then a second one for an hour to close the night out.
I'd like to go on a Tuesday and get a discounted room for the night and get her for at least 90 minutes, what do you think is a reasonable deal on that day?Went Monday and Tuesday, quoted $100 for 30 min both nights. The one I took Tuesday night went well past 30 minutes tho, she wasn't a clock watcher, no rush. Amazing service. Sticking with the 20-25 year olds going forward.
What are the best / typical rates you have found on different days of the week?
We all know short-term on the weekends is typically $100 on the weekends with $80 possible. Has anyone done better recently?
The best I have gotten on an hour on the weekend is $170, I have also paid $200 when thinking with my little head. Never done a longer session than an hour but there is a girl I met last Saturday who is great, I did her twice first for 35 min and then a second one for an hour to close the night out.
I'd like to go on a Tuesday and get a discounted room for the night and get her for at least 90 minutes, what do you think is a reasonable deal on that day?I don't pay for sexo in HK. I suppose if the girls said 30 bucks I'd have to do it. But I don't have the money this year and the bad sex "cum papi cum already" "you take long time papi". What's the point. Risk herpes, and ruin my clean bed sheets for that? I like to hang out in HK. Right now, the last 2 weeks since I returned to San Diego, is the best time in HK in 5 years, if talking about the amount of woman. There's more woman than men if you count the 40 girls in chavelas at any time. They are significantly like 10× more sociable and flirty when it is like this. It's been half decade since I've seen so many woman. That, combined with covid is keeping the men down. Unless it's the constant price increases that are keeping mem away I don't know. But the price for sex? I never negotiate because it doesn't matter to me. But some will quote 80. Otherwise I hear 100 or 120. Some guy offered a girl 20 in front of me. He was a real large guy so it's good she didn't slap him.
Federico69
12-09-21, 16:46
The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.
Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:
1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.
1 hour - $100, $120, $140.
90 minutes - $120, $140, $160..Thanks this is great info! Any thoughts on negotiations tactics that have worked for you on moving a girl from a higher to lower price. Do you tell her she is not hot enough for the price she is asking? I've heard of walking away but it means you have to start over building some rapport with another one. I've found just going straight to the sex without a little flirting first results in subpar sessions.
BlackThought
12-09-21, 22:30
I don't pay for sexo in HK. I suppose if the girls said 30 bucks I'd have to do it. But I don't have the money this year and the bad sex "cum papi cum already" "you take long time papi". What's the point. Risk herpes, and ruin my clean bed sheets for that? I like to hang out in HK. Right now, the last 2 weeks since I returned to San Diego, is the best time in HK in 5 years, if talking about the amount of woman. There's more woman than men if you count the 40 girls in chavelas at any time. They are significantly like 10 more sociable and flirty when it is like this. It's been half decade since I've seen so many woman. That, combined with covid is keeping the men down. Unless it's the constant price increases that are keeping mem away I don't know. But the price for sex? I never negotiate because it doesn't matter to me. But some will quote 80. Otherwise I hear 100 or 120. Some guy offered a girl 20 in front of me. He was a real large guy so it's good she didn't slap him.I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.
I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.When did funemployment end? Like September of this year? Would not surprise me if bros were taking their funemployment check south of the border and buying ass with it every week.
I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.Yeah I believe her. Usually I'd say all woman complain business is slow but I do think the guys aren't spending what they were. All you have to do is wander I on Friday or Saturday night and it's like 60% of the normal pre covid male population. Remember, Mexicans aren't swimming in this covid free money printing machine the USA is running. Mexico is like USA economy in then 80's. You wanted more money you worked more hours. So there's a lot woman working right now. It would be interesting to know how much the price increase keeps some. Guys from going. I would have to take a guess its reduced the amount of men going to HK by 10 to 15%. Just a guess. But hard to imagine less than that. The younger guys who start going now will be ok. But the guys who were paying 50 5 years ago with 11 dollar hotels might not stomach doubling of prices.
I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.And their logical thought process was to upcharge everything with the pandemic causing a slow down in business. Most of the $100 quoters are 7's at best and that's if you want to overlook their botched ass implants and equally terrible boob jobs.
KetoAndKettle
12-10-21, 08:46
I went last Mon. & Tues. plus last Fri. and plenty of good finds each night IMO. I do not like weekends when packed to the gills and literally tripping over others and all smoke filled = hate that.
Next trip though I may try the escort route and get a room at Ticuan or similar. I like to spend more time with quality girls than quantity pump and dump but it is all good.Ticuan and escorts from a site is my favorite way to do Tijuana. And still love the F out of the zona. But yeah, escorts. I love Tijuana. Need to move back to la or sd from Idaho. But just don't like California politics, and other craziness.
Explorer8939
12-10-21, 13:10
The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.
Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:
1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.
1 hour - $100, $120, $140.
90 minutes - $120, $140, $160.
Multiple Hours / All night - $200-$220, $300-350, $400-500.Always pay in pesos.
Federico69
12-10-21, 16:27
And their logical thought process was to upcharge everything with the pandemic causing a slow down in business. Most of the $100 quoters are 7's at best and that's if you want to overlook their botched ass implants and equally terrible boob jobs.Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?
Sources of Revenue are:
Tips.
Fichas.
Private lapdances.
Commissions on ST rooms.
Sex.
I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.
BlackThought
12-10-21, 19:42
Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?
Sources of Revenue are:
Tips.
Fichas.
Private lapdances.
Commissions on ST rooms.
Sex.
I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.I was able to negotiate TLN for $300. Her 30 min rate was $100, but business was slow on a Tuesday. She told me that she keeps all the $ for sex, but the management wants the girls on the floor working as the club mainly makes money from fichas.
Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?
Sources of Revenue are:
Tips.
Fichas.
Private lapdances.
Commissions on ST rooms.
Sex.
I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.
Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.
Federico69
12-10-21, 23:47
I was able to negotiate TLN for $300. Her 30 min rate was $100, but business was slow on a Tuesday. She told me that she keeps all the $ for sex, but the management wants the girls on the floor working as the club mainly makes money from fichas.So how long is the TLN for from a certain time at night until morning or how did that work? I presume the later in her shift it is the more likely she is to agree to it.
BlackThought
12-11-21, 00:18
They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.
Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.Yeah. I don't understand taking them on vacations to Cancun / tulum. Why bring sand to the beach, plenty of chicas available for sex in Quintana Roo. I think some men crave the girlfriend experience and will shell out a lot of $$$ for it.
Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.This is so, so true. There's been a lot of talk about rising standard rates, and while the girls in the mid-tier and lower are likely to suffer as a result because less mongers will come to HK overall, the top tier girls are largely living off of their big spending clients. If I had to bet, they couldn't care less if there's fewer small / average spenders in the club.
LuvMexicanas
12-11-21, 01:47
They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.
Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.How do you know there is a ficha quota?
Captain Solo
12-11-21, 04:14
BlackThought,
It's the expensive pride of ownership.
Even ugly girls know how to make certain guys feel they have found the most precious things in the world.
BangBangBoy
12-11-21, 08:11
If you have VIP card at HK and are getting the half price lap dance ($10), make sure you get the exact change from the Mesero before you go in the booth. This past weekend, I gave the mesero $20, and he told me he will get me the change when I come out. I even tipped him $2 so he won't knock early. But when I came out he claimed he gave me extra time so no change is needed. I could have gotten a manager to straighten his ass out, but couldn't be bothered as my friends were waiting for me. Just want to make everyone be aware this as one of the many dirty tricks the mesero's will play.
Come to think of it, unless a girl is willing to give you a BJ or go completely naked in the booth, the lap dance booth is not really worth it. You can pretty much get everything you want with a ficha if it is the right girl.
BlackThought
12-11-21, 08:33
So how long is the TLN for from a certain time at night until morning or how did that work? I presume the later in her shift it is the more likely she is to agree to it.Mine was 3 am to 8 am, she would've stayed later, but I really needed a power nap as I had a long drive home so I booted her out.
Yes, later in the shift like when the girls outnumber the guys.
How do you know there is a ficha quota?Oh, man, don't stir up this shit again!
Member #4730
12-11-21, 11:09
Yeah. I don't understand taking them on vacations to Cancun / tulum. Why bring sand to the beach, plenty of chicas available for sex in Quintana Roo. I think some men crave the girlfriend experience and will shell out a lot of $$$ for it.Yeah, sad to admit that I'm one of those dudes. The 4 day trip cost $4 k and she didn't want anything besides some ray and sunglasses. I didn't see any talent besides maybe single ladies in Coco Bongo or he mens clubs. The mens clubs were overpriced and talent level was low.
Yeah, sad to admit that I'm one of those dudes. The 4 day trip cost $4 k and she didn't want anything besides some ray and sunglasses. I didn't see any talent besides maybe single ladies in Coco Bongo or he mens clubs. The mens clubs were overpriced and talent level was low.I got crazy in the past when I was making good money, not baller status but. Descent. It is funny when your broke you find out how many of them girls are your friends. In my experience not too many women will hang around a poor guy. One chica I knew forget everyone who helped her not that she hooked up with her latest sugar daddy, living the "high" life of drugs and alcohol and fake superficial Instagram life at her beautiful condo overlooking the golf course. Her new man is blowing 1000's of dollar per month keeping her happy as she flaunts it to us ex Johns on her Instagram LOL. Always there's always someone with more money out there. As my Korean friend once said, she is a gold digger.
Federico69
12-11-21, 15:48
How do you know there is a ficha quota?Per the girl I am chatting with it is 1000 pesos per 9 hour shift which any girl worth her weight should hit easily, only 5 drinks. Unless she means that is what she earns in which case it is 16 drinks per shift or 2 per hour roughly.
This is so, so true. There's been a lot of talk about rising standard rates, and while the girls in the mid-tier and lower are likely to suffer as a result because less mongers will come to HK overall, the top tier girls are largely living off of their big spending clients. If I had to bet, they couldn't care less if there's fewer small / average spenders in the club.Yes there is always someone more handsome and / or richer that comes along for these top tier HK girls. Sade this girl I knew for three years in HK, after getting her new boob job from "donations from and me and other mongers, finally found her whale of a sugar daddy. He set her up in a high rise condo overlooking the golf course somewhere in Tijuana. She spends her days getting high and drunk, and taking Instagram pics for loyal fans and simps she met in HK, and displays videos of her pampered life of luxury. Well I can't blame her who wants to get banged out by 10 mongers a day when all she has to do is satisfy one dick? Bottom line is these girls if they are good looking will always find a sucker that is willing to "retire" them, never feel bad for them. The ones that are mid to lower tier they do suffer so show them some love too. Hey a girls got to make a living somehow.
LuvMexicanas
12-11-21, 17:18
Oh, man, don't stir up this shit again!I was hoping it would lure a certain someone like a beacon in the night. Jaja!
LuvMexicanas
12-11-21, 18:20
Per the girl I am chatting with it is 1000 pesos per 9 hour shift which any girl worth her weight should hit easily, only 5 drinks. Unless she means that is what she earns in which case it is 16 drinks per shift or 2 per hour roughly.Of course, anything a working girl says should be taken as gospel.
ScatManDoo
12-11-21, 19:02
Per the girl I am chatting with it is 1000 pesos per 9 hour shift which any girl worth her weight should hit easily, only 5 drinks. Unless she means that is what she earns in which case it is 16 drinks per shift or 2 per hour roughly.You have now given the 5,422nd different answer given from the 5,422nd chica asked about how the ficha quota is measured.
If an actual ficha quota existed.
Numerous chicas would report the same formula.
DramaFree11
12-11-21, 20:15
You have now given the 5,422nd different answer given from the 5,422nd chica asked about how the ficha quota is measured.
If an actual ficha quota existed.
Numerous chicas would report the same formula.Yes, they have a system, but they choose when to enforce it. If they want to get rid of someone, they will make them be productive. If you are hot, not causing problems and producing they will leave you alone.
BlackThought
12-11-21, 20:18
Yeah, sad to admit that I'm one of those dudes. The 4 day trip cost $4 k and she didn't want anything besides some ray and sunglasses. I didn't see any talent besides maybe single ladies in Coco Bongo or he men's clubs. The men's clubs were overpriced and talent level was low.No shame, I get it, sometimes the chemistry is so spot on that you just enjoy their company. I just can't justify $1 k / day when most go for $100/ session, I rather session with 10 diff girls. If I was really wealthy then yeah, I'll spend $1 k / day with my ATFs.
Federico69
12-11-21, 22:14
Of course, anything a working girl says should be taken as gospel.Of course, she would never lie to me, about this or anything else.
BlackThought
12-11-21, 22:41
BlackThought,
It's the expensive pride of ownership.
Even ugly girls know how to make certain guys feel they have found the most precious things in the world.Hope you're enjoying Medellin, looks like you're running into fishy pussy there as well which is surprising as Colombians stay on top of hygiene. That board loves el centro chicas that go for 30 k COP ($8 usd) and will give you hell if you pay a penny more for fucking up the market LOL. The chicas in el centro are pretty ugly and the better looking ones at parque Lleras charges 200-300 k ($50-80) for an hour. The ones in gusto night club would charge $200 USD for an hour, and they're on par with HK club talent in terms of looks.
After seeing the talent at HK club and getting TLN for $300 with a 8+ (looks) and 9+ (performance), I'm perfectly fine with just sticking with Tijuana. Flights from California to Colombia are 10 hours. The chicas in Colombia generally don't speak English either, and I hate using google translate.
No shame, I get it, sometimes the chemistry is so spot on that you just enjoy their company. I just can't justify $1 k / day when most go for $100/ session, I rather session with 10 diff girls. If I was really wealthy then yeah, I'll spend $1 k / day with my ATFs.If I was. Real wealthy I would just enjoy my own company, I would never pay 1 k a day for anyone even if I was a billionaire. Rich people are rich because they make sound money choices.
Cocr Brotheler
12-12-21, 02:41
Not a big amount of dinero but happened to me both times I checked out last week. First time felt like I was short changed but refund already mixed into the rest of my bills. Think they shorted me $4-$5 from what I remembered at checkout and I didn't even have mini bar in my room on 4th floor.
When I checked out the 2nd time they definitely short changed me $4-$5 but I was already outside waiting for the shuttle back. Figured they would tell me they needed it to pay for cleaning the room or that I took something which I didn't. It just gets too exhausting to challenge it all. At every level of the transactions they are trying to clip you.
Then at the alley OXXO earlier in the week I bought a glass bottled beer one evening early. After I paid for it with receipt in hand the male employee said I needed to pay 7 pesos additional for the bottle since the purchase only included the liquid. I showed the receipt he just handed me and said in Spanish then why wasn't the 7 pesos charged before I paid? WTF? WTF? I said Ok then I will return the unopened beer but he didn't want to do that. We went back and forth several times as the que of others waiting to pay backed up. Finally he just said I bring the bottle back next visit (which I did but he wasn't working). It is not like 7 pesos is a lot to me but how it was presented and not charged with the original purchase.
Was he correct or just trying to pull one over on me? Bet he was surprised when a sober gringo speaking passable Spanish in an argumentative manner contested him. Hey if he pulled out a gun or threatened to call police I would of paid hehehe.
Hope you're enjoying Medellin, looks like you're running into fishy pussy there as well which is surprising as Colombians stay on top of hygiene. That board loves el centro chicas that go for 30 k COP ($8 usd) and will give you hell if you pay a penny more for fucking up the market LOL. The chicas in el centro are pretty ugly and the better looking ones at parque Lleras charges 200-300 k ($50-80) for an hour. The ones in gusto night club would charge $200 USD for an hour, and they're on par with HK club talent in terms of looks.
After seeing the talent at HK club and getting TLN for $300 with a 8+ (looks) and 9+ (performance), I'm perfectly fine with just sticking with Tijuana. Flights from California to Colombia are 10 hours. The chicas in Colombia generally don't speak English either, and I hate using google translate.The Centro guys only that sub = the street girl only guys on Tijuana sub. I did see a few head turners when I was walking around Botero park few weeks back they were all Venezuelan. Glad you are enjoying HK.
Member #4730
12-12-21, 04:03
I got crazy in the past when I was making good money, not baller status but. Descent. It is funny when your broke you find out how many of them girls are your friends. In my experience not too many women will hang around a poor guy. One chica I knew forget everyone who helped her not that she hooked up with her latest sugar daddy, living the "high" life of drugs and alcohol and fake superficial Instagram life at her beautiful condo overlooking the golf course. Her new man is blowing 1000's of dollar per month keeping her happy as she flaunts it to us ex Johns on her Instagram LOL. Always there's always someone with more money out there. As my Korean friend once said, she is a gold digger.Yeah it has been a wild roller coaster, but the past 2 months have been the highest of highs and lowest of lows. It is misunderstanding on both parts. They are impoverished and need money for various family issues and we are thinking it is all about the money which offends the ones with a genuine connection. I feel bad for the guys that don't have self control, but then again, they may have a boatload of money. I know the ex HK bargirl I'm dating said one guy from New York paid her $100 for the 30 min. And then an additional $500 for a TLN, but he couldn't perform and was embarrassed so he let her leave.
I can relate to your comment that it is just business to them and weird for some of us johns how they can't have any kind of emotional connection. Also kind of strange dilemma when you hear their stories and how they fleece other guys of their money like charging for more time, etc. It tints the lens in which you may view the lady your seeing as sometimes you may question why me and why her.
Member #4730
12-12-21, 04:12
No shame, I get it, sometimes the chemistry is so spot on that you just enjoy their company. I just can't justify $1 k / day when most go for $100/ session, I rather session with 10 diff girls. If I was really wealthy then yeah, I'll spend $1 k / day with my ATFs.It was for flights, hotel, entertainment, water parks, rental car, etc. She only wanted a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses ($250).
LuvMexicanas
12-12-21, 07:01
You have now given the 5,422nd different answer given from the 5,422nd chica asked about how the ficha quota is measured.
If an actual ficha quota existed.
Numerous chicas would report the same formula.Amen. If only I had a dollar for every idiot who cited a ficha quota. Not saying I'd be rich but tacos for a week would be a given. Notice how the poster who started all this nonsense has gone silent.
HK was very crowded Friday Saturday night. I thought the place seemed dead last weekend but maybe it had to do with other things or I went to early. Tonight, Saturday, everything was packed. Hong Kong, Tropical, Adelitas. Adelitas was so crowded I could not get seat and left after 10 minutes without buying a drink. I haven't been finding any good girls to buy drinks for, may be time I take a break from going.
Yeah it has been a wild roller coaster, but the past 2 months have been the highest of highs and lowest of lows. It is misunderstanding on both parts. They are impoverished and need money for various family issues and we are thinking it is all about the money which offends the ones with a genuine connection. I feel bad for the guys that don't have self control, but then again, they may have a boatload of money. I know the ex HK bargirl I'm dating said one guy from New York paid her $100 for the 30 min. And then an additional $500 for a TLN, but he couldn't perform and was embarrassed so he let her leave.
I can relate to your comment that it is just business to them and weird for some of us johns how they can't have any kind of emotional connection. Also kind of strange dilemma when you hear their stories and how they fleece other guys of their money like charging for more time, etc. It tints the lens in which you may view the lady your seeing as sometimes you may question why me and why her.KB, I wouldn't try to second guess your girl and all she has done to dumb guys. I would think of it in this matter. All the workers in the Zona know that most guys show up with a certain amount of money to spend and they figure that if it isn't spent on me it will be spent on someone else. Besides most guys are to drunk or just plain stupid to realize it. Remember in "The Wolf of Wall Street" he talks about taking peoples money because he will spend it better. If a guy is willing to pay for $500 TLN and can't perform why should she offer him a discount? She did her job and the guy isn't going to be on the streets because of it.
You said before that she has been on her own basically since the age of 17 so she does what she has to in order to survive and get what she wants. Now you often think about what makes you different and is she doing the same to you. Well you will never really know and screw up a possible good thing by overthinking it or just go with the flow and be smart enough not to invest your life savings so if it goes south you only lost some money that you would if spent on some other girls and gambling.
Federico69
12-12-21, 17:41
Amen. If only I had a dollar for every idiot who cited a ficha quota. Not saying I'd be rich but tacos for a week would be a given. Notice how the poster who started all this nonsense has gone silent.Dude,
I am a relative noob, just trying to figure out some tactics to negotiate lower rates for longer sessions with the girls. Searched the forum, didn't find any old threads so I asked the question. Relax.
It was for flights, hotel, entertainment, water parks, rental car, etc. She only wanted a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses ($250).To be honest, you probably only spent a bit more than had you gone by yourself. I invited a civvie FWB lady friend of mine from GDL to Puerto Vallarta and the additional cost of bringing her along was just a $150 plane ticket, and meals, booze & extras for 1 more person. We were there 5 days, and I think it cost me a total of $500 extra for the whole trip.
As long as you're not covering a day rate, there's a clear expectation that you expect to get laid, and you've taken an HK girl out for a couple of days to Rosarito or Ensenada and see what she's like on a mini-vacation, it's usually a pretty good deal. The ones that are going to be a gigantic money drain and a pain in the ass will show you who they are right away.
BlackThought
12-12-21, 19:36
It was for flights, hotel, entertainment, water parks, rental car, etc. She only wanted a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses ($250).If that's the case, you got a hell of a deal.
You would've had to pay for the hotel, rental car regardless. Paying for Flights, entertainment, water parks etc are expected when you invite a woman to travel with you. I thought she charged you $1 k / night on top of all expenses paid for the vacation.
Member #4730
12-12-21, 19:56
KB, I wouldn't try to second guess your girl and all she has done to dumb guys. I would think of it in this matter. All the workers in the Zona know that most guys show up with a certain amount of money to spend and they figure that if it isn't spent on me it will be spent on someone else. Besides most guys are to drunk or just plain stupid to realize it. Remember in "The Wolf of Wall Street" he talks about taking peoples money because he will spend it better. If a guy is willing to pay for $500 TLN and can't perform why should she offer him a discount? She did her job and the guy isn't going to be on the streets because of it.
You said before that she has been on her own basically since the age of 17 so she does what she has to in order to survive and get what she wants. Now you often think about what makes you different and is she doing the same to you. Well you will never really know and screw up a possible good thing by overthinking it or just go with the flow and be smart enough not to invest your life savings so if it goes south you only lost some money that you would if spent on some other girls and gambling.When I get more time next week, I'll add more about my crazy adventure. Cultural differences, language barrier, meeting family, checking her cell phone, ultimatums, insecurities, age gap, and the list could go on. You are so correct, I just figured out the past few days it is about survival for them since not many opportunities in Mexico.
I think I tried numerous psychological tests to figure out what her true intentions are and I am getting a better grasp of her thinking. What a wild ride, but fun and interesting. I think she has been in many toxic and bad relationships where she lost faith in men and asked me if I was a good man to which I replied yes. Everyone has a different interpretation of what a good man is and I feel I am genuine and honest in regards to whatever she asks me. Some of her friends tell her she is only with the gringo for the money. Big trip coming up for NYE and hopefully she can transfer schools or I might have to visit Sinaloa.
Member #4730
12-12-21, 20:01
To be honest, you probably only spent a bit more than had you gone by yourself. I invited a civvie FWB lady friend of mine from GDL to Puerto Vallarta and the additional cost of bringing her along was just a $150 plane ticket, and meals, booze & extras for 1 more person. We were there 5 days, and I think it cost me a total of $500 extra for the whole trip.
As long as you're not covering a day rate, there's a clear expectation that you expect to get laid, and you've taken an HK girl out for a couple of days to Rosarito or Ensenada and see what she's like on a mini-vacation, it's usually a pretty good deal. The ones that are going to be a gigantic money drain and a pain in the ass will show you who they are right away.I've done numerous short trips with her since the summer and she is just like a Thai lady when it comes to compensation and says it is "up to me", which annoys me. She doesn't have children and only a poor family that seem to always run to her for support, but now she isn't working, which is another topic I'll share later when I get time. If they don't get the money from you, then they will figure out a way to get "fast money".
LuvMexicanas
12-12-21, 20:04
Dude,
I am a relative noob, just trying to figure out some tactics to negotiate lower rates for longer sessions with the girls. Searched the forum, didn't find any old threads so I asked the question. Relax.I was not referring to your. Chillax.
BlackThought
12-12-21, 23:56
I've done numerous short trips with her since the summer and she is just like a Thai lady when it comes to compensation and says it is "up to me", which annoys me. She doesn't have children and only a poor family that seem to always run to her for support, but now she isn't working, which is another topic I'll share later when I get time. If they don't get the money from you, then they will figure out a way to get "fast money".Why are you interested in dating a working girl? There's a high probability that they're damaged. I don't think many can work in this field and be unscathed.
Federico69
12-13-21, 00:20
I was not referring to your. Chillax.Muy bien will do. Should have an interesting report to share after tomorrow night.
Many sayings from Capt Solo and other senior members on this board have helped me a lot on my mongering trips:
1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian).
2) Cultivate relationships with street girls and you will get good service at decent price.
3) If you go to the clubs, stick to your guns on pricing and sooner or later someone will take it. This is especially true on Mon-Thu.
4) In clubs, watch out for attitude and look for chemistry. I don't drink and don't believe in throwing away money on $9 fichas (2 fichas = 1 SG session!) So the chemistry part can be hard for me.
I was there Tuesday last week and had a room at Cascadas, but the street scene is just becoming ridiculous, with SGs asking for 800 pesos for 20 minute session. I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. My regulars were either without their IDs or couldn't make it, Queens Escort service was non-responsive, and here I am standing with my the! Ck in my hand. Needed to get back to San Diego. I haven't been to HK or Las Chavelas since they merged, so I thought "things are miserable, what else can go wrong let me go in and check this out". I recalled 2 more principles from past posts.
5) 1,000 pesos + tip is a good local rate from pre-covid days. Captain Solo used to preach that a lot.
6) Las Chavelas is is where girls are sent off from HK (to take a break), and girls there more amenable to negotiating.
As I was walking around Las Chavelas, a nice sexy girl with full body and large assets (rank her a 7) comes by and starts rubbing her body against me asking for arriba for $100 for 30 minutes. I counter with 1,000 pesos. She haggles a little and says 1500 and I counter with 1,000+tip and ask for 45 minutes, and she walks away. I do a round, and as I head for the front door to exit she comes running and grabs my hand and says let's go!!
I tip the gown guy 10 pesos and he grumbles a bit -- this $1 tipping and $10 fichas are a little beyond my comprehension. I am cheap!
7) Never pay in advance -- you lose control -- service can go down once the chica has the money and you have no leverage.
In the room, she asked for the money upfront -- she has probably figured I am such a cheap guy I may not honor the 1,000 pesos offer. I show her the money -- and put it in a place where she can see it and tell her depending on her service this will go up. She say don't ever mention this rate to anyone at HK as everyone is being pressured to get $100.
We DFK, she is a masseuse back home and offers a massage. Starting from my back and then turns me around and massages my stomach and legs. Plays with my the! K and offers a BBBJ as an add-on for $25. I counter with $10 and we haggle a bit. I feel her service is pretty good so far, and I won't need any extra assistance so go for the covered BJ (which turned out to be pretty good), so I decline.
8) Always think with the big head. Don't let the little head prevail when it comes to $$.
We have a brief discussion about thinking with the big head vs little head, and we laugh about it. We then try a couple of positions, and I climax with she riding me cowgirl.
We then chat, more kissing and then I help her get off by fingering and kissing her. Throughout her attitude was very warm, sensible and chatty. She alternates between Tijuana and Sinaloa for 2 week periods. I got her number and will check her out after Jan 6 when she is back, lets see if the 1,000 peso price holds! I give her 1,000 + $10 tip + a nice little makeup kit (I carry some gifts with me), and she seems pleased.
Meanwhile, it is back to SGs and Queens -- Queens at 1500 with GFE sounds like a good deal right now. Maybe try this approach again next week!
9) As bad as things may look, we control the $$. Right now economically things are pretty tight and I see lesser gringos visiting, whereas Chicas are abundant. New variant of covid will scare people even more and things will become tighter. Stick to your guns and you will come across someone who hasn't done much business and will bite on a reasonable, or even a little below par offer.
Many thanks to the gurus who post here, the above principles were a great help!
ScatManDoo
12-13-21, 03:56
Many thanks to the gurus who post here, the above principles were a great help!You did well my Padawan.
Captain Solo
12-13-21, 03:58
Wow,
Urgikhan held his line and got a very good deal. Congrats. The bros should keep rejecting ridiculous high prices and bad attitudes, they will find the right girls with sweet sessions. That should also teach the rest of them to lower their expectations and adjust their attitudes or go home hungry.
To hat sounds harsh but I use the negotiations to feel the girls' attitudes. If they treat me with nice, warm, friendly attitude and hot passion in bed, I usually give them propinas way higher than they ask for. You don't want to screw cold, angry, biitchy girls. Would be like wrestling a crocodile.
BTW what's her name? Will be very nice to this good girl.
I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. M
Stick to your guns and you will come across someone who hasn't done much business and will bite on a reasonable, or even a little below par offer.I too have been blacklisted by a few girls. Mostly because I have asked them for prices many times over time and never given them the business.
I used to enjoy the just the practice negotiation in the past.
Now, to avoid blacklisting my new policy is to not ask them their price unless I am willing to immediately give them my business if the price is reasonable.
I too am cheap and agree with stick to your guns on pricing, etc. Prices vary a lot among the gals. There are plenty who will say yes to a reasonable price. Especially on Ave Constitution.
Also, beautiful face usually has a negative correlation with service.
When I get more time next week, I'll add more about my crazy adventure. Cultural differences, language barrier, meeting family, checking her cell phone, ultimatums, insecurities, age gap, and the list could go on. You are so correct, I just figured out the past few days it is about survival for them since not many opportunities in Mexico.
I think I tried numerous psychological tests to figure out what her true intentions are and I am getting a better grasp of her thinking. What a wild ride, but fun and interesting. I think she has been in many toxic and bad relationships where she lost faith in men and asked me if I was a good man to which I replied yes. Everyone has a different interpretation of what a good man is and I feel I am genuine and honest in regards to whatever she asks me. Some of her friends tell her she is only with the gringo for the money. Big trip coming up for NYE and hopefully she can transfer schools or I might have to visit Sinaloa.Yeah even being able to speak pretty good Spanish in my case I still have issues with this. Look forward to hearing how things have gone and how the visit with mom went. Sucks that your alone for the holiday but at least you have the trip to look forward to.
Federico69
12-13-21, 18:53
Many sayings from Capt Solo and other senior members on this board have helped me a lot on my mongering trips:
1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian).
2) Cultivate relationships with street girls and you will get good service at decent price.
3) If you go to the clubs, stick to your guns on pricing and sooner or later someone will take it. This is especially true on Mon-Thu.
4) In clubs, watch out for attitude and look for chemistry. I don't drink and don't believe in throwing away money on $9 fichas (2 fichas = 1 SG session!) So the chemistry part can be hard for me.
I was there Tuesday last week and had a room at Cascadas, but the street scene is just becoming ridiculous, with SGs asking for 800 pesos for 20 minute session. I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. My regulars were either without their IDs or couldn't make it, Queens Escort service was non-responsive, and here I am standing with my the! Ck in my hand. Needed to get back to San Diego. I haven't been to HK or Las Chavelas since they merged, so I thought "things are miserable, what else can go wrong let me go in and check this out". I recalled 2 more principles from past posts.
5) 1,000 pesos + tip is a good local rate from pre-covid days. Captain Solo used to preach that a lot.
6) Las Chavelas is is where girls are sent off from HK (to take a break), and girls there more amenable to negotiating..Great post thank you! I'll try the 1000 pesos offer tonight in Chavelas and see if I can get a bite.
Captain Solo
12-14-21, 01:03
Urgikhan did a good job getting his deals.
Even top tiered HK girls would take 1000, If they think they cannot pry more out of you. I have done many top HK girls near that figure.
Perhaps you should plead poverty, "mi tengo poco dinero. Mil para me bebe, por favor, con propina."
Bunter Hiden
12-14-21, 01:33
What I love about this board is it's like a puzzle. Sometimes easy to figure out. All of the related experiences are fascinating but many lack context. Take the dude who coined a hard ten pesos at the robe guy. I would have been unhappy to if I was handed two quarters instead of a bill (yes I know there are ten peso bills, I just don't know why). The 80/20 rule math works in Tijuana but for different reasons. Ten% or probably way less of guys rolling down spend and an unusual amount of time figuring out how to get most bang for the peso. Figure if you spent that time working your income job you could afford the dings here and there. But also there are people who live for the feeling of not having overpaid. I get that but it's just not for me. OTOH the 10% who are hitting Tijuana on a regular basis have another problem. If you for the sake of reference you hit up every street girl figuring out which one will go nasty for ten pesos you can bet your sweet ass the collective will have a nickname for you. Simple as once you are defined as such any girl seen taking your offer will be considered out of the sisterhood. Or so that's my guess as I don't bowl in that lane. Likewise if you are a regular you run the risk of becoming the property of any one girl at any one place and that's a hard tail to shake. Columbians especially will pee on you like a tree to mark their territory. Although they will most always offer up the ass as a move to win you back. Just more trouble. I have found that hitting one of the agencies for a few weeks is necessary and my routine, if you can call it that, is to then go to Zona Roja and check it out but don't have any girls park on you. Playing broke works but it is really hard when that unicorn shows up and you have to bust cover to pursue. Just my two pesos.
BlackThought
12-14-21, 03:02
Urgikhan did a good job getting his deals.
Even top tiered HK girls would take 1000, If they think they cannot pry more out of you. I have done many top HK girls near that figure.
Perhaps you should plead poverty, "mi tengo poco dinero. Mil para me bebe, por favor, con propina."I believe it, the HK girl told me that Arribas dropped significantly since October, which coincides when the additional PUA $ ended. I guess people were really spending their unemployment checks at the clubs jajaja.
Is HK club busy is Q1? If not, I may try to haggle rather than paying the standard $100 for 30 min.
Many sayings from Capt Solo and other senior members on this board have helped me a lot on my mongering trips:
1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian).
2) Cultivate relationships with street girls and you will get good service at decent price.
3) If you go to the clubs, stick to your guns on pricing and sooner or later someone will take it. This is especially true on Mon-Thu.
4) In clubs, watch out for attitude and look for chemistry. I don't drink and don't believe in throwing away money on $9 fichas (2 fichas = 1 SG session!) So the chemistry part can be hard for me.
I was there Tuesday last week and had a room at Cascadas, but the street scene is just becoming ridiculous, with SGs asking for 800 pesos for 20 minute session. I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. My regulars were either without their IDs or couldn't make it, Queens Escort service was non-responsive, and here I am standing with my the! Ck in my hand. Needed to get back to San Diego. I haven't been to HK or Las Chavelas since they merged, so I thought "things are miserable, what else can go wrong let me go in and check this out". I recalled 2 more principles from past posts..What is more important to you? Getting a cheap price or getting the girl you really want? What if the smoking hot 10 that you really want won't budge from 1800 p? Would you still go with a 1200 p girl even though she's way less attractive and could be a far inferior lay?
What is more important to you? Getting a cheap price or getting the girl you really want? What if the smoking hot 10 that you really want won't budge from 1800 p? Would you still go with a 1200 p girl even though she's way less attractive and could be a far inferior lay?What is important to you is only important to you.
I was once in a bar talking with a newbie from Canada. He asked how it worked. I told him to just talk to a girl of his interest and negotiate a price and he could get any girl he wanted. One of the uglier girls grabbed a hold of him and he had one drink with her. Off he went with her.
A few days later I saw him again in the bar. He was all happy and thanked me for showing him to take out a girl. I thought he had come back afterwards and had taken out other girls. Nope he had LT the same girl for 3 nights and was all happy!
To each their own. My your own business.
BrotherMouzone
12-15-21, 00:49
What is important to you is only important to you.
I was once in a bar talking with a newbie from Canada. He asked how it worked. I told him to just talk to a girl of his interest and negotiate a price and he could get any girl he wanted. One of the uglier girls grabbed a hold of him and he had one drink with her. Off he went with her.
A few days later I saw him again in the bar. He was all happy and thanked me for showing him to take out a girl. I thought he had come back afterwards and had taken out other girls. Nope he had LT the same girl for 3 nights and was all happy!
To each their own. My your own business.Yeah, I mean with some guys it's natural to want to stick with the same girl (s) and that's perfectly fine. Even me. I've been going to the Zona for years (albeit only a couple times a year or so) and am perfectly content sticking with my set of "regulars", even though I do venture out with other girls from time to time. But I'm risk averse by nature, so see my "regulars" as more of a "sure thing" LOL. With all that said, you described the guy you talked to as a "newbie" so it probably would've been in his best interest to check out other girls as well before settling in with the one girl.
ScatManDoo
12-15-21, 01:24
Yeah, I mean with some guys it's natural to want to stick with the same girl (s) and that's perfectly fine. Even me. I've been going to the Zona for years (albeit only a couple times a year or so) and am perfectly content sticking with my set of "regulars", even though I do venture out with other girls from time to time. But I'm risk averse by nature, so see my "regulars" as more of a "sure thing" Let me give you a tip Brother Mou.
All the women that you see in Hong Kong Bar are "sure things."
BlackThought
12-15-21, 01:37
Yeah, I mean with some guys it's natural to want to stick with the same girl (s) and that's perfectly fine. Even me. I've been going to the Zona for years (albeit only a couple times a year or so) and am perfectly content sticking with my set of "regulars", even though I do venture out with other girls from time to time. But I'm risk averse by nature, so see my "regulars" as more of a "sure thing" LOL. With all that said, you described the guy you talked to as a "newbie" so it probably would've been in his best interest to check out other girls as well before settling in with the one girl.I normally keep a "regular" at every monger destination, and dabble with new ones on the side. When I go back to HK club, the plan is to TLN with my "regular", and have ST with new ones. If I like any of the new ones over my "regular" then I will replace her.
FilthyBeaver
12-15-21, 01:54
I've been turned down at least 3 times that I can remember in the last 14-15 years.
Let me give you a tip Brother Mou.
All the women that you see in Hong Kong Bar are "sure things."
BrotherMouzone
12-15-21, 02:04
Let me give you a tip Brother Mou.
All the women that you see in Hong Kong Bar are "sure things."To clarify for you, what I meant by "sure thing" is "sure thing" in terms of satisfaction level. My "regulars" are regulars because I'm confident they'll provide good service. Can't say the same thing for random chicks in the club or on the street that I haven't bedded yet, no matter how attractive they may be on the surface.
ScatManDoo
12-15-21, 02:25
To clarify for you, what I meant by "sure thing" is "sure thing" in terms of satisfaction level. My "regulars" are regulars because I'm confident they'll provide good service.They must appreciate your sense of humor.
What is more important to you? Getting a cheap price or getting the girl you really want? What if the smoking hot 10 that you really want won't budge from 1800 p? Would you still go with a 1200 p girl even though she's way less attractive and could be a far inferior lay?I am a firm believer in value and service -- and I would try both the the 1800 p and 1200 p girls, and the longer term repeat with the girl who give better service. She gets added to my stable of regulars and I will not pick another girl in her presence when I go to the club (or street). If you have 2 favorite street girls in close proximity, only pick one when the other is not present. Showing a little concern goes long ways.
Odds are the 1200 p girl will provide better service -- and she will get higher propinas and gifts moving forward. Contrary to my behavior, money is not an issue and if I really want a 2000 gal. But I will never take a prima donna asking for 2000 and showing attitude. Attitude is everything, and it shows up in service -- always.
I carry quarters and $ bills. Only good service warrants a tip. The limo driver who drops me at the border pick-up point (rather than the drop-off point) doesn't get a tip. Clean-up guy deserves a $1, robe guy does not.
Another tip for both club and street girls -- 90% of hem don't like porn on the TV. Switching to music channels like Bandamax improves their moods and improve service levels in most instances. Showing a little concern goes long ways (e. G. Putting on music on TV, or youtube if the tv channels are not there) On the other hand if you find a gal that like porn -- congratulations she is most likely a real freak and have fun!
After I paid for it with receipt in hand the male employee said I needed to pay 7 pesos additional for the bottle since the purchase only included the liquid.Returnable bottles is really a thing in Tijuana. I bought a six-pack of Modelo Especial at a 7-11 near the Otay crossing, and they required a deposit. When I returned, a week later, they inspected my receipt, making sure I had actually bought them there, and then gave me my deposit back, no problem.
Cocr Brotheler
12-15-21, 07:20
Returnable bottles is really a thing in Tijuana. I bought a six-pack of Modelo Especial at a 7-11 near the Otay crossing, and they required a deposit. When I returned, a week later, they inspected my receipt, making sure I had actually bought them there, and then gave me my deposit back, no problem.That I can understand when you pay for the "beer whole thing liquid + bottle) and have a receipt in hand for what would be expected almost anywhere as liquid + glass but this moron trying to 2 X gouge I about blew my top. And totally understand if I never bring the bottle back then 7 pesos lost. He was weird too asking me about origin of TX name etc. And some other menial regarding Qs. I think he was on some drug but whatever.
Cocr Brotheler
12-15-21, 07:25
"1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian)."
Additionally as was pointed out to me by a helpful attractive young woman crossing into MEX same time as me is that if you do not even need to stand-in line to have your man purse or smaller bags X-rayed, can breeze right through. I was hesitant at first with soldiers with large rifles in view but she guided me through to walk right past x-ray machine. Wow! You meet some incredibly nice and sincere MEX citizens along the way!
Back packs and larger they expect to go thru X-ray machine.
Returnable bottles is really a thing in Tijuana. I bought a six-pack of Modelo Especial at a 7-11 near the Otay crossing, and they required a deposit. When I returned, a week later, they inspected my receipt, making sure I had actually bought them there, and then gave me my deposit back, no problem.It's actually a thing everywhere in Mexico. Has been for as long as I can remember.
If it's a glass bottle of Soda or Beer, unless it explicitly says "No Retornable" on the neck, you have to return it to get your deposit back. Plastic and Cans have made this rarer now at convenience stores for Soda, but it sounds like it's still the same thing with Beer.
I've seen meseros bring over a girl to a fat guy in Tropical and she refused to drink with him. Some chicas will reject guys for a variety of reasons. Guessing the main ones are for too much fat or hygiene deficient guys who don't take baths. Of course, guys do the same thing with the chicas. Most American guys are not chubby chasers.
I've been turned down at least 3 times that I can remember in the last 14-15 years.
Federico69
12-15-21, 18:34
Decided to go back to Tijuana with a friend who is a total noob and was a little hesitant. Made reservations for us for two rooms at Cascadas planning to use the 70% discount. Original plan was to get one of the two bedroom suites but they were all sold out. I guess you really have to plan ahead when reserving those even when going on a Monday. Per the girls Monday is actually pretty busy at the club, can be as good as Friday, and from what I observed they are right. There were plenty of both girls and mongers around. Tuesday on the other hand is a really slow day and would hence be the best day to go for mongers who want to get a heavily discounted session. Look forward to testing that theory in the near future.
The check-in process at Cascadas was a bit of a pain, had us wait in the lobby with a bunch of others and then they did not accept CC's for the room and wanted $50 deposit for the minibar. This necessitated a couple of trips to the ATM later which I prefer to avoid but see ést la vie.
Wingman was unhappy with his room, the heater didn't work and it smelled like smoke so before we both got to grumpy we headed down to Azul to get a margarita and a snack.
A girl sat down next to us and we bought her a ficha, spoke English, a nice personality but not very hot but she got my wingman warmed up to the concept of chatting with hookers and copping a feel.
I had had two sessions the previous weeks with a girl from Mexico City called Naomi. She is a rock'and'roll and metal chick which is a vibe that I dig and she gave me really nice sessions the previous week. We had been texting on and off that week. We head down to the club and sit down in the little bar near the upstairs bathroom as my wingman doesn't love the noisy environment in HK and this seems a little quieter. We order drinks and wait for Naomi to find one.
My original plan was to take a new girl for a session and then get TLN with Naomi at the end of her shift for $300. However, her hours were different than what she had originally planned. She started at 4 and ended at midnight vs. 8 to 4 AM as I had thought. I started out with $250 for the night which she scoffed at and after some back and forth we settled for $400 for the whole night. I could have taken my $300 and gotten it from someone else but that's not really what I wanted. Don't want to spend the whole night with a chick I don't really know. In the end, I thought it was a good value as she stayed with me from 10:30 PM to 6 in the morning. Alas, I did not get a chance to test the $1000 peso offer in Chavelas, that will be for another Tuesday.
I took Naomi to the room for a session and left the wingman with two girls who were giving him some nice attention.
After completing the session with some good intense fucking, oral in different positions and her riding me like a bucking bronco I finish by having her lick and suck my balls. I text Wingman to figure out what he is up to, he says he is finished and ready for another round. I call him to find out the details and it turns out he took the two girls to the room for an hour $100 each. However, he asked for a massage, handjob, and for them to play connect 4 with him in the room. He is a happy camper.
We decide to go get a drink and something to eat so Naomi and I get dressed and we head to Azul to get food. We get tacos that I would definitely not recommend, dry meat is just the worst I've had in Mexico. Curious if anyone has had good food there? Naomi couldn't leave the hotel to eat while being on the clock with me so this was the option we got stuck with. We hung out, played some more connect 4 and then head back to HK for a drink and to see some boobies. Wingman is out of money so no more action for him.
After a little while, we head back upstairs. I give Naomi a massage which she loves and then we have another nice long session. She comments that since I take so long to finish, I should get two girls next time, it will give the other one's pussy a little break in between. She offered a threesome with her roommate, that girl is cute and I would definitely do it but would have to stay another day. I am sure that wouldn't be cheap so I am curious what the best price other mongers have negotiated for a 90-120 minute threesome? Wouldn't be enough time to fuck both properly if it is less than that. I finish the same way with her sweet mouth on my balls and her talking dirty to me in between kisses and licks. By the time she leaves it is 6 in the morning.
I am still a little wired and can't sleep, the curtains don't black out the sunlight and after watching the porn channel for 20 minutes I decide to go downstairs and get my free drink at HK which I forgot earlier in the evening.
The club looks a little weird at this hour, people are cleaning, not much going on onstage but plenty of chicas sitting around with no customers.
I walk across to the other side to get my Tecate and see a very hot petite but stacked with ass and tits girl in a tight red dress. I am smitten. I make eye contact with her and she winks at me and I decide what the hell. Only thinking lapdance and groping but things go a different way. Her name is Natalia from Guadalajara and she speaks pretty good English. She asks me what I want and I ask her the same. She says "I want love" and wraps her leg around mine and starts stroking my cock. I ask how much and how much time and she quotes me the standards. I say $100 but for an hour. She says $160. I say I need to go to the ATM and the max is $3000 pesos so $150 for an hour. Not impressive by this board's standard but the lowest I have paid for an hour so far. And this girl is a 9.
We go to the room and she asks me to pay in advance. I say no and tell her I have had a bad experience with that a girl who did not perform the agreed service and left after 30 minutes. Did not tell her that but this chica claimed my dick was too big and she only wanted to do massage and blowjob. However, there were several red flags with that one that I should have seen like ordering two fichas at a time.
So reluctantly I agree to give her the money when we enter the room and she enthusiastically convinces me that I will be very happy with the service. She only works mornings and I am her first client of the day, smells great no smoky bar smell. She takes her clothes off and we get down to business. We DFK with a lot of passion and I grab her round tight firm ass and lift her up so she can wrap her arms around me. Then I lay her down on the bed and get on top of her to kiss some more and suck her nipples. "Let me see you baby shark" she says. She lays on her stomach facing the side of the bed and I am standing. She then rolls the condom on with her mouth and starts sucking me as I stand there and look at her incredible ass, grope her and slide her panties to the side to tease her pussy.
She is a total animal in bed. This is the best, covered head I've received in Tijuana, technique, and enthusiasm is perfect. I put her on her knees next to the bed for a bit and have her taste my balls and use her hands to get me extra hard. Start her off in missionary and her pussy is tight as soft wet wrench twisting on my cock. Only complaint I have is excessive use of the word "baby" as I am fucking her. I am talking to her the whole time telling her what a good girl, good working girl, dirty little ****, sexy, hot, tight little fuck toy and she moans, groans, and cums all over my cock as I dig my hands into her scalp and pin her legs down behind her head. She is flexible, with no resistance at all as I push balls deep into her. The mirror at the edge of the bed gives me a great view. I switch it up to doggy style looking at that incredible ass and the tattoos running down her back and pound her hard and then switch to prone bone holding her hands behind her back as she cums for me again like the good little **** that she is. I finish inside her, get up and throw away the condom. I get hard again almost immediately, and I place her prone at the end of the bed facing me and I lean against the headboard. Time for her to suck more dick which she enthusiastically agrees to. I instruct her to arch her back and put her feet up so I can look at her ass while she is sucking me. Look up James Deen's instructional video for girls on how to give blowjobs on Pornhub and show it to your girls or tell them what to do. You will not be disappointed. She places her hands on the shaft and balls and I tell her to look me in the eyes as she is doing it. She obeys every command with enthusiasm and proceeds to suck my cock like a sensual wild animal. She keeps going and I tell her to rub her finger just outside my asshole to help me cum and I unload in her mouth. A quick look at the clock and there are 10 minutes left so I switch out the condom and tell her to suck my cock for another 5 minutes and then she can shower. She tells me "you are a great fuck, baby" I get her number to make it easier to find her again, but I think there may be a typo in it as I can't find her on WhatsApp. I'll just have to go pussy shopping early on Tuesday morning again because after fucking this spitfire, it will be hard for other chicas to compete.
Captain Solo
12-15-21, 20:07
BlackThought.
When HK opened back up in March 2021, there was a flurry of guys taking girls upstairs in those weekends. The line of guys and girls heading out the door was steady, non stop at prime time. Girls would skip the time-consuming ficha drinking bullshit and wanted to go upstairs quickly to make real money. My guess was, guys were spending saved up stimulus and unemployment money.
By about June, I noticed a sharp drop off in arribas, not too many girls were taken upstairs, even the top tiereds were hanging around the club all night. Arribas have been slow after that until the end of November when I took off for South America. A few HK girls went to the streets to work for lower but more steady rates; some just quit and went home, some kept asking me when my big-spending wingmen return ect. Business must be bad for them.
Locals negotiate details of prices and services with the girls. Girls who don't negotiate are likely cold, difficult and nasty star fish in bed. Tell the chicas "no mas dineros" and haggle for 1,000 or 1,200 con propina. If the chicas think they cannot pry more money out of you, they would go with your deal. If the chicas are sweethearts in bed, give them good propinas. They will remember you and you will have a group of regulars who are happy to repeat with you and give you good services in bed.
Captain Solo
12-15-21, 21:07
Wow. Frederico69 had his fill of girls and sex in one night. Cannot get much better than that.
Usually HK is slowest on Monday, Tuesday would get significant better with more girls all rested up after the hectic weekend.
After you are known and repeat with them a few times, bar girls or street girls have amazing memories, feel more comfortable with guys who would not harm or cheat them, they can be friendly, relaxed, sexy and fun in the bar or in bed.
Glad you and your friends found the right girls and got what you wanted.
BrotherMouzone
12-15-21, 21:30
Nice review, Federico. As far as the non-acceptance of CCs not sure why that would be the case. The last several times I've stayed at Cascadas they've accepted credit cards with no issue. The $30/$50 deposit you do have to pay in cash though. That's non-negotiable as far as I know.
If you were unhappy with your room, you could always ask them to change it. I think there's a decent chance they'd grant your request, especially on a weekday.
As many times as I've been to HK, I've never had any interest whatsoever in eating at Azul's. There are just so many other better food spots out there out and around Tijuana. So I've never eaten there either. Some folks on this board seem to like some of the food here though.
FilthyBeaver
12-15-21, 21:59
I'm in decent shape and not unattractive. There are tons of reasons. First was back in the day when day shift wore the edecan sashes. Fresh young meat were lied to about what went on there and she wasn't doing anything with anyone. Second and third were personality clashes we just didn't get along and it was awkward enough that she wasn't convinced I wouldn't turn into a complete weirdo in the room. So she turned me down. I always buy a few drinks to figure out if there's chemistry. Most of the time it works great, a few times it has not but it served it's purpose because I didn't waste time or money on the room.
I always wanted to be able to tell people I couldn't get laid in a *****house and I can!
I've seen meseros bring over a girl to a fat guy in Tropical and she refused to drink with him. Some chicas will reject guys for a variety of reasons. Guessing the main ones are for too much fat or hygiene deficient guys who don't take baths. Of course, guys do the same thing with the chicas. Most American guys are not chubby chasers.
BlackThought
12-15-21, 23:26
Decided to go back to Tijuana with a friend who is a total noob and was a little hesitant. Made reservations for us for two rooms at Cascadas planning to use the 70% discount. Original plan was to get one of the two bedroom suites but they were all sold out. I guess you really have to plan ahead when reserving those even when going on a Monday. Per the girls Monday is actually pretty busy at the club, can be as good as Friday, and from what I observed they are right. There were plenty of both girls and mongers around. Tuesday on the other hand is a really slow day and would hence be the best day to go for mongers who want to get a heavily discounted session. Look forward to testing that theory in the near future.Can confirm, Tuesday only had like 1/2 the people of Monday. Monday was quite busy with lots of stunners available.
BlackThought
12-15-21, 23:49
BlackThought.
When HK opened back up in March 2021, there was a flurry of guys taking girls upstairs in those weekends. The line of guys and girls heading out the door was steady, non stop at prime time. Girls would skip the time-consuming ficha drinking bullshit and wanted to go upstairs quickly to make real money. My guess was, guys were spending saved up stimulus and unemployment money.
By about June, I noticed a sharp drop off in arribas, not too many girls were taken upstairs, even the top tiereds were hanging around the club all night. Arribas have been slow after that until the end of November when I took off for South America. A few HK girls went to the streets to work for lower but more steady rates; some just quit and went home, some kept asking me when my big-spending wingmen return ect. Business must be bad for them.
Locals negotiate details of prices and services with the girls. Girls who don't negotiate are likely cold, difficult and nasty star fish in bed. Tell the chicas "no mas dineros" and haggle for 1,000 or 1,200 con propina. If the chicas think they cannot pry more money out of you, they would go with your deal. If the chicas are sweethearts in bed, give them good propinas. They will remember you and you will have a group of regulars who are happy to repeat with you and give you good services in bed.Thanks for the insight / tips. I found a keeper on my last trip, so will be repeating with her for TLN. She told me her hourly rate was $180 USD, but accepted my $300 USD offer for 5 hours (ended it at 4 hours as I was getting way too sleepy and had a long drive ahead of me that day). She provided GFE, I normally don't care for GFE but I was a wounded animal that needed TLC after being drugged by that stinky fish Freija jajaja.
"1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian)."
Additionally as was pointed out to me by a helpful attractive young woman crossing into MEX same time as me is that if you do not even need to stand-in line to have your man purse or smaller bags X-rayed, can breeze right through. I was hesitant at first with soldiers with large rifles in view but she guided me through to walk right past x-ray machine. Wow! You meet some incredibly nice and sincere MEX citizens along the way!
Back packs and larger they expect to go thru X-ray machine.I had the same exact experience when I first crossed the frontera with the Mexicans, as I can pass for one. I also hesitated and briefly stood in line for the X-ray machine. Luckily I had a wingman with me more familiar with the process, and he quickly told me to keep moving. Nobody stopped us, and now I know what to do next time.
I had the same exact experience when I first crossed the frontera with the Mexicans, as I can pass for one. I also hesitated and briefly stood in line for the X-ray machine. Luckily I had a wingman with me more familiar with the process, and he quickly told me to keep moving. Nobody stopped us, and now I know what to do next time.I've read many folks walk across.
Oddly, all my visits have been drive-through. Is there a risk I've been taking without realizing it??
I've read many folks walk across.
Oddly, all my visits have been drive-through. Is there a risk I've been taking without realizing it??Nah, just increases the amount of crap you can get from cops and possible wait time at the border.
I always drive across. I do my business down in Tijuana, park my car somewhere (like the hotel I'm staying at overnight) and Uber or Taxi over to the Zona, and then leave.
all my visits have been drive-through. Is there a risk I've been taking without realizing it??I drive in about once a week, because I need my car for my non-monger activities.
Crossing back can take hours, and if you're driving around late at night in some tourist area, I think you're a bit more likely to get stopped by the cops. But aside from one time when I was driving drunk, it's never been a real problem.
BlackThought
12-17-21, 01:26
I drive in about once a week, because I need my car for my non-monger activities.
Crossing back can take hours, and if you're driving around late at night in some tourist area, I think you're a bit more likely to get stopped by the cops. But aside from one time when I was driving drunk, it's never been a real problem.I agree, I just took the HK shuttle back to the border. Then skipped the long line by going to the sentry line. Even though I don't have sentry, the border agent just let me through.
I agree, I just took the HK shuttle back to the border. Then skipped the long line by going to the sentry line. Even though I don't have sentry, the border agent just let me through.This was via pedestrian entry to US. Not auto right?
Has anyone experienced the border agents allowing them to go through without Sentri / global-entry card?
This was via pedestrian entry to US. Not auto right?
Has anyone experienced the border agents allowing them to go through without Sentri / global-entry card?Sounds like he walked through, because he took the HK shuttle to the border.
BlackThought
12-18-21, 18:46
This was via pedestrian entry to US. Not auto right?
Has anyone experienced the border agents allowing them to go through without Sentri / global-entry card?Correct, through the pedestrian line. Yes, the border agent let me through with just a passport card, he paused a bit, then waved me through.
Sounds like he walked through, because he took the HK shuttle to the border.I too take the shuttle to the border and walk into USA.
The shuttle stop ends out of sight of the place where the border guards are. You need to walk around a curved path about 1000 ft or so.
So the guard has no idea how you got there because the shuttle does not stop anywhere in sight of the border guard.
I am pleased to hear the guard let him walk through without waiting in line.
Will try that in the future if I take friends without the card.
Aviator400
12-18-21, 21:08
I agree, I just took the HK shuttle back to the border. Then skipped the long line by going to the sentry line. Even though I don't have sentry, the border agent just let me through.Likely the border agents that let him through Sentri mistook the passport card for a Global Access card, as they look similar and between the two gates one must navigate, it is usually 20+ meters from where they waive you through.
I think that he just got lucky, as I have seen the border agents challenge Sentri / GE card holders at the two gates.
BlackThought
12-19-21, 01:36
Likely the border agents that let him through Sentri mistook the passport card for a Global Access card, as they look similar and between the two gates one must navigate, it is usually 20+ meters from where they waive you through.
I think that he just got lucky, as I have seen the border agents challenge Sentri / GE card holders at the two gates.The HK shuttle dropped me off at the corner of a street and told me which way to walk. There was a really long line of Mexicans, but I saw this Asian guy with a suitcase just bypassing the line of Mexicans, so I followed him. Without sentry and I supposed to line up in the same line as the Mexicans? Or is there a separate US citizen line? I have only done research on putas and very little on border crossing etc jaja.
The HK shuttle dropped me off at the corner of a street and told me which way to walk. There was a really long line of Mexicans, but I saw this Asian guy with a suitcase just bypassing the line of Mexicans, so I followed him. Without sentry and I supposed to line up in the same line as the Mexicans? Or is there a separate US citizen line? I have only done research on putas and very little on border crossing etc jaja.It can be difficult to process and remember that most of the people in line are Americans. It took me years to spend spend a minute to think about it. Basically once covid hit and the line looks like same people then you know most are Americans. Because Mexicans weren't allowed in. Or they are dual citizenship. You are supposed to stand in line at the back. Now, many days I waited 4 hours in line and saw couples beg to go through without sentri and they were permitted. Especially when 1 at least had sentri. On very rare occasions only once that I saw, they had a 3rd line for Americans. I do not think, that right now the policy is to let Americans cut the line. It was more likely the guy didn't take you as a daily visitor and just figured he would be nice.
This was via pedestrian entry to US. Not auto right?
Has anyone experienced the border agents allowing them to go through without Sentri / global-entry card?I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.
I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.Thats BS, you actually get 3 strikes if you're traveling by car without the sentri pass. I accidentally went through sentri lane a few months ago thinking it was ready lane. The customs agent said if I did it 2 more times I would get fined thousands of dollars, I forget how much, I think five. He gave me a small sheet with details, don't think I have it anymore though. I guess they're willing to accept you going through sentri lane by accident twice, but three times and it's no longer an accident.
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Anyways, went to HK this past Wednesday night around 8-9 pm. To my surprise there was an abundance of girls working in the club. Way more than any other time I can recall around the holidays. Even saw a couple of my top preferred girls working but I was in the mood for something new. Unfortunately didn't catch the right vibe with any of them. Most girls were actually just hanging around seemingly not interested in convincing mongers to take them upstairs. Kind of weird considering everyone can always use some cash around the holidays. I asked a few how much for arriba just to stir up some conversation and they all quoted $100 firm. I took pleasure in laughing in all of their faces and scoffing at their quotes especially considering they want to charge $30 standard room rates now. We must all hold strong at $80 MAX. Tip can be negotiated depending on their performance. Otherwise I would rather evaluate the talent on the streets. Some diamonds in the rough out there once in a while for a fraction of HK prices.
Captain Solo
12-19-21, 16:26
Nothing.
I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.
I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.
I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.
Nothing.
I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.
I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.
I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.I think it is the intent of HK to use inflated chica and fucked up bullshit prices to keep the guys in the bars as long as possible so that the guys can spend their money on drinks instead of the girls. Guys usually come to HK with a limited wad of cash. If the guys go arriba, he's not going to have much left over for the thieving waiters. They are going to spend it on something (drinks) if they cannot afford a chica. The chicas are too proud but stupid to figure it out that they are actually losing out business to the bar, their real competitor. For HK management, drinks are the money maker. The girls are the bait. Waiters are convicts. And customers, the suckers, especially tourists.
Captain Solo
12-19-21, 19:56
Most HK girls are not doing much business, fichas or arribas, hungry and desperate. They are working for HK for free.
The girls prefer to go to the hotel to make more money quickly in bed over the measly fichas in the bar, but HK would rather have them knock down 10 fichas an hour with some suckers and make $60 for the bar.
The bros can always use HK coupons to get free drinks, ogle hot girls all night for free, and pick up hot street girls for $20 session in Cascada's $6ST rooms. HK just hates this strategy.
BlackThought
12-19-21, 21:07
It can be difficult to process and remember that most of the people in line are Americans. It took me years to spend spend a minute to think about it. Basically once covid hit and the line looks like same people then you know most are Americans. Because Mexicans weren't allowed in. Or they are dual citizenship. You are supposed to stand in line at the back. Now, many days I waited 4 hours in line and saw couples beg to go through without sentri and they were permitted. Especially when 1 at least had sentri. On very rare occasions only once that I saw, they had a 3rd line for Americans. I do not think, that right now the policy is to let Americans cut the line. It was more likely the guy didn't take you as a daily visitor and just figured he would be nice.Wow if that's the case, I lucked out. Cause the line spanned a few blocks at around 1130 AM. Maybe I should check out earlier my next visit as I have my flight departing San Diego is at 130 PM or get global entry.
BlackThought
12-19-21, 21:14
I think it is the intent of HK to use inflated chica and fucked up bullshit prices to keep the guys in the bars as long as possible so that the guys can spend their money on drinks instead of the girls. Guys usually come to HK with a limited wad of cash. If the guys go arriba, he's not going to have much left over for the thieving waiters. They are going to spend it on something (drinks) if they cannot afford a chica. The chicas are too proud but stupid to figure it out that they are actually losing out business to the bar, their real competitor. For HK management, drinks are the money maker. The girls are the bait. Waiters are convicts. And customers, the suckers, especially tourists.Unless the hot girls move from HK club to Adelitas or other clubs, HK club can probably continue with their shady tactics as it's practically a monopoly. You're right, the girl I TLN'd had to ask Management for permission to spend the rest of her shift in my room as they wanted her on the floor selling drinks or dancing on the pole.
I can't justify paying $30 for ST rooms, so I just book overnight which is a great value with the 70% off Mon and Tues. I booked the jacuzzi room for my next trip as the cost was $34.50/ night vs $23/ night for the standard room. I am planning to check out Adelitas next visit, are the arriba rates and room rates better than HK?
I think it is the intent of HK to use inflated chica and fucked up bullshit prices to keep the guys in the bars as long as possible so that the guys can spend their money on drinks instead of the girls. Guys usually come to HK with a limited wad of cash. If the guys go arriba, he's not going to have much left over for the thieving waiters. They are going to spend it on something (drinks) if they cannot afford a chica. The chicas are too proud but stupid to figure it out that they are actually losing out business to the bar, their real competitor. For HK management, drinks are the money maker. The girls are the bait. Waiters are convicts. And customers, the suckers, especially tourists.Not sure what HK is supposed to do. Not make money? They are a business and do what they can to make the most profit. So yes just like any strip club in the US they use the girls to get clients in the door. This philosophy is used in many dance clubs to get girls in so guys will come. The girls can use whatever tactics they wish to make as much money as possible. Some are lazy and unmotivated while others just want to go upstairs and not drink. HK could care less what the girls charge except to use it as a selling point to other girls. Not many girls will fly to Tijuana for $50 sessions since other parts of Mexico would allow them to make more. So for the money that gets thrown around in HK they have a long list of girls that would love a chance to work in that place but they are the Chivas of the bars in Tijuana.
I would still like to see HK have a cover charge to keep out the cheap guys or if you are a VIP member you don't get charged. The money that has been lost due to COVID is still trying to be recovered and hopefully next year will be better.
The waiters take advantage of those that let themselves be taken advantage of. All prices are on the wall. If you go enough I highly recommend getting one waiter that you deal with and tip well.
Nothing.
I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.
I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.
I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.I might stop by this upcoming Wednesday night again, in case you're there, would love to say Hi and pay my respects to the captain haha.
Wow if that's the case, I lucked out. Cause the line spanned a few blocks at around 1130 AM. Maybe I should check out earlier my next visit as I have my flight departing San Diego is at 130 PM or get global entry.The line is very easily 4 plus hours right now. People are shopping for Christmas. They just let foreigners come into USA 3 weeks ago. Truthfully when planning to catch flight you need to allocate 6 hours of line time if you can't afford to cancel a flight. Because I've waited 4 hours a few times. And the line visually was half it was today for example.
Welcome to secondary SENTRI. Warning and so forth. My personal experience when did not mark SENTRI car lanes correctly. Money maker for local. Wanted $20.00 for Lane change. Secondary took for ever. Warning and written consent decree.
I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.
Captain Solo
12-20-21, 20:00
Nothing,
You don't have pay anything to El Capitan.
My wingmen and I would just be delighted to meet a distinguished monger / poster like you.
BlackThought
12-20-21, 21:28
The line is very easily 4 plus hours right now. People are shopping for Christmas. They just let foreigners come into USA 3 weeks ago. Truthfully when planning to catch flight you need to allocate 6 hours of line time if you can't afford to cancel a flight. Because I've waited 4 hours a few times. And the line visually was half it was today for example.What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.
What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.I was returning Saturday around 5 PM, the line was 3.5 - 4 hours long.
Th Border Agents do check, and are well aware of the difference between a Sentri and Passport card. I tried sneaking with the passport card Saturday, and they sent me back. Another tactic is to time yourself to join a a moving line, pretending you have a Sentri and only let the border agent see your card -- they will assume you were already in the line and going through. DON'T let the other folks in the line see your passport card.
The only somewhat legit $20 scenarios is the guy has someone in the line already close to the front and they put you next to that person. I tried it once and it took me an hour to go through. Another time a guy had no one in the line and he just took me to the front of the line and tried to sneak me through, the Border agent and people in the line sent me back -- they guy had disappeared but then reappeared and put us back in the line a bit further, still without anyone in the line. Since then I have stopped paying folks and manage to get through on my own.
If the Omicron variant causes the border to close, it will be a blessing (shorter lines like pre-opening of the border, when only US citizens / residents were allowed to travel for "essential" reasons) -- but I think the economic pressures are such that they will keep the border open.
I was returning Saturday around 5 PM, the line was 3.5 - 4 hours long.
Th Border Agents do check, and are well aware of the difference between a Sentri and Passport card. I tried sneaking with the passport card Saturday, and they sent me back. Another tactic is to time yourself to join a a moving line, pretending you have a Sentri and only let the border agent see your card -- they will assume you were already in the line and going through. DON'T let the other folks in the line see your passport card.
The only somewhat legit $20 scenarios is the guy has someone in the line already close to the front and they put you next to that person. I tried it once and it took me an hour to go through. Another time a guy had no one in the line and he just took me to the front of the line and tried to sneak me through, the Border agent and people in the line sent me back -- they guy had disappeared but then reappeared and put us back in the line a bit further, still without anyone in the line. Since then I have stopped paying folks and manage to get through on my own.
If the Omicron variant causes the border to close, it will be a blessing (shorter lines like pre-opening of the border, when only US citizens / residents were allowed to travel for "essential" reasons) -- but I think the economic pressures are such that they will keep the border open.Supposedly they are trying to discourage this more in the lines and people are making more of a scene about it. If you can't wait in line like everyone else don't go to Tijuana, you give the rest of us a bad name with your better than everyone else attitude and you can buy your way for what you want. Most Mexicans have a high tolerance for waiting and don't whine like Americans, but with the border the tolerance level tends to be different especially if the line is as long as some have claimed.
Also not trying to make this personal with you Urf as I don't recall reading your previous posts but I do find it funny in general on this board that many complain about girls or waiters trying to make money by taking advantage of those that allow themselves to be taken advantage of but you will gladly screw over others and pay someone to do it. Seems hypocritical to me but what to expect from guys that pay girls for sex and than complain about it.
What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.Do NOT pay anyone to walk you to cut the line. Even if you are 6 foot tall, if you piss guys off they will turn it into a rumble and you will be outnumbered. And easily a third of the guys in San Diego carry a knife on them. I moved up once just 30 feet and 10 of them went nuts on me. If I hadn't moved back It would of led to them turning violent. This was after I watched 200 people cut me for 4 hours. Its better to pay the 8 or 10 bucks for the bus. Should be under 90 minutes that method. If you hate lines just go back after 8 pm. Fortunately I did the global entry finally. That card is worth more to me than my cars.
BlackThought
12-21-21, 08:23
Do NOT pay anyone to walk you to cut the line. Even if you are 6 foot tall, if you piss guys off they will turn it into a rumble and you will be outnumbered. And easily a third of the guys in San Diego carry a knife on them. I moved up once just 30 feet and 10 of them went nuts on me. If I hadn't moved back It would of led to them turning violent. This was after I watched 200 people cut me for 4 hours. Its better to pay the 8 or 10 bucks for the bus. Should be under 90 minutes that method. If you hate lines just go back after 8 pm. Fortunately I did the global entry finally. That card is worth more to me than my cars.Sol12 has a good point LOL, not going to argue with him. Is it the The Tourismo Express Bus? It's only $10 each way? If so, I rather do that than pay someone $20 to cut the line and piss everyone off.
BrotherMouzone
12-21-21, 17:13
What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.Even though this "works" (as far as reducing your time in line) it's a scam. Really you're just paying a random person to walk with you to cut the line, which you're not allowed to do. I tried it once last year not knowing how it worked and thinking it was somehow some "legit" operation they had and felt bad afterwards, LOL. When I did it last year, I countered the $20 price with $10, which was quickly accepted. That should've been a red flag for me.
One thing I noticed this year is they do seem to have a couple of Mexican policia towards the front of the line watching the line, seemingly at least in part to catch line cutters.
Baxter Slade
12-21-21, 17:35
I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.
I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.I am applying for mine as I plan to live in Tijuana in the future and work in San Diego.
BlackThought
12-21-21, 18:41
I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.The earliest global entry appointment I can find is in March 2022. Need something ASAP.
Captain Solo
12-21-21, 19:33
I flew from Medellin to Mexico City on Viva Aerobus last Friday. Mexican Customs announced that special procedures apply to flights from Colombia, due to it being a major source of drugs. We were sniffed by dogs, luggage were sent through X-ray machines; one young woman was targeted, her luggage was opened up and searched carefully.
I flew from MEX to LAX arriving in the afternoon Monday, pulling along my carry-on suitcase. The walk was very long from the terminal to US Customs booths. Couple hundreds people queued up in front of the booths, none was in the GE lanes; I was the only one. A Customs woman told me to go ahead to the dozen GE machines, take my hat and mask off for the picture. The machine already read the GE card in my wallet via RFID, automatically detected and took my picture. It was all done in less than 30 seconds. That was it, I was cleared. The woman said I could go.
Meanwhile hundreds other passengers were waiting in line to be interviewed, body scanned, luggage Xrayed and searched by US Customs.
Get your GE card with the US government's trusted travelers privileges.
BlackThought
12-21-21, 20:48
Even though this "works" (as far as reducing your time in line) it's a scam. Really you're just paying a random person to walk with you to cut the line, which you're not allowed to do. I tried it once last year not knowing how it worked and thinking it was somehow some "legit" operation they had and felt bad afterwards, LOL. When I did it last year, I countered the $20 price with $10, which was quickly accepted. That should've been a red flag for me.
One thing I noticed this year is they do seem to have a couple of Mexican policia towards the front of the line watching the line, seemingly at least in part to catch line cutters.So I guess the best solution for those without global entry is to take the $10 bus ride across the border. As the bus as a special lane that bypasses the regular vehicle line.
I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.Exactly how I feel. If there was no line cutting a 3 hour wait I could swallow. But the only reason a 3 hour wait is 3 hours and not 1 hour is due to line cutting. The amount of line cutting is probably 2 people cutting for every person in line. Not even counting sentri as line cutting. And where I'm from, cutting a line in a grocery store would lead to a physical fight and maybe worse. Its just not accepted. But these California's are a mellow bunch. Everything you need to know about how the USA government works, with the different $$ corporations, and big business, and $ non profit $ political organizations pulling the strings of our government, can by seen right at the border. Basically everyone tells the border patrol what to do. It wasn't good enough for the border patrol to allow people to cut the line on busses, and have to stand in line for the last 20 minutes. Now they put another line, even faster than sentri, on the right of sentri for bus, people. What bus? Who paid or dqueezed border patrol to do that? I don't know. What I will say, I'm fairly certain, any Americans denied global entry could easily win a lawsuit for all the hours they stand in line while they have organized line cutting, much of it with USA border patrol in cahoots with.
If you can't wait in line like everyone else don't go to Tijuana, you give the rest of us a bad name with your better than everyone else attitude and you can buy your way for what you want.Amen!
We are guests in Mexico and should act accordingly!
So I guess the best solution for those without global entry is to take the $10 bus ride across the border. As the bus as a special lane that bypasses the regular vehicle line.Don't believe there is such a Bus?
The earliest global entry appointment I can find is in March 2022. Need something ASAP.One option a friend did was not select his city for the Global Entry interview. He selected some other city (don't remember which but it was like 6 hours east of San Diego) Just because they had an earlier interview date and just did a road trip and got the interview. Saved him several months of waiting.
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I realize it's "Mexico" and all but they really should have some large signs giving people direction on which lines to get into for regular, Global Entry, Sentry. Mexico does many things great as we all know, but they don't need to just do a half ass job with signage as they have for years at the border.
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Exactly how I feel. If there was no line cutting a 3 hour wait I could swallow. But the only reason a 3 hour wait is 3 hours and not 1 hour is due to line cutting. The amount of line cutting is probably 2 people cutting for every person in line. Not even counting sentri as line cutting. And where I'm from, cutting a line in a grocery store would lead to a physical fight and maybe worse. Its just not accepted. But these California's are a mellow bunch. Everything you need to know about how the USA government works, with the different $$ corporations, and big business, and $ non profit $ political organizations pulling the strings of our government, can by seen right at the border. Basically everyone tells the border patrol what to do. It wasn't good enough for the border patrol to allow people to cut the line on busses, and have to stand in line for the last 20 minutes. Now they put another line, even faster than sentri, on the right of sentri for bus, people. What bus? Who paid or dqueezed border patrol to do that? I don't know. What I will say, I'm fairly certain, any Americans denied global entry could easily win a lawsuit for all the hours they stand in line while they have organized line cutting, much of it with USA border patrol in cahoots with.I have news for you. CBP has zero control over the shenanigans that happen on the Mexico side. If there are line cutters, it's Mexico's problem. And Mexico isn't going to do anything about it.
CBP, long ago, was more or less forced to come up with a way to accommodate buses. Processing them through regular lanes isn't practical. You have to have a method of screening all the passengers. So, what do you suggest?
Still, I'm not sure where you get your bus information, maybe things have changed since I quit walking across. But I've taken the bus option a couple times. Sometimes it's faster than standing, sometimes it's not. If you're in a bus, and there are two other buses in front of you, it make take you a very long time to get through. They have to unload the bus, which may have 10, or it may have 50 people on it. They have to process all those people. (Yes, sometimes that line does go quicker than the "regular" lines). They have to inspect the bus. They have to reload the bus. If you're three buses back you're in for a long wait, too.
Of all the times I crossed on foot with SENTRI, I have never had to wait while the bus line was processed. I've also never been threatened with violence the couple of times I got suckered into "cutting" the line for a fee.
BlackThought
12-22-21, 05:09
Don't believe there is such a Bus?What bus is dogers referring to? I'm going to miss my flight if I have to wait in line for 4 hours. Is it only 4 hours due to the holidays? My friend told me it was no more than 30 minutes a few years ago.
The earliest global entry appointment I can find is in March 2022. Need something ASAP.I know a few guys' that have used this service. It's $30 but they all had their appointments moved up to within a week.
https://appointmentscanner.com
I know a few guys' that have used this service. It's $30 but they all had their appointments moved up to within a week.
https://appointmentscanner.comThis free tool lets you know of openings at SFO as they become available: https://twitter.com/GOESbot.
And, you can always do interview on re-entry from abroad to US via most airports.
So, fly from a Mexican airport to San Diego airport:
See https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-entry/enrollment-arrival.
I know a few guys' that have used this service. It's $30 but they all had their appointments moved up to within a week.
https://appointmentscanner.comI haven't used the service, but can confirm that a bunch of appointment slots randomly pop up that are much sooner.
A buddy of mine could not get an appointment at LAX until July 22, and he randomly checked SFO and found appointments available in Jan 22, but on a re-check, he saw an appointment like 2 weeks out and nabbed it. He just ended up going up to see family, and grabbed his outbound flight on the day of his appointment.
If you're willing to make a day trip out of it (it's worth it IMO), look at the other places where you can have your interview where the location is at the Airport. SFO and PHX have offices in the airport.
Tuesday night report. Both men and woman volume down 60% than last week. But the guys here going up to room every 30 seconds as I wait for a chica. Reduced price at nearby bars.
BrotherMouzone
12-22-21, 16:37
So I guess the best solution for those without global entry is to take the $10 bus ride across the border. As the bus as a special lane that bypasses the regular vehicle line.I'd guess that's one of the better solutions. I've never taken any of those buses / vans that get offered so I wouldn't know anything about them personally but my guess is they are legit.
For those without global entry (such as myself), one way to manage border crossings is to plan ahead and get to the border early to minimize changes of something like missing your flight. USA Customs and Border Protection has this website: https://bwt.cbp.gov/details/09250401/PED.
That monitors wait times for pedestrian crossings at San Ysidro. MOST of the time (though not always) the estimated wait times are reasonably accurate (I. E. , accurate to within 20 minutes of the estimate or less), though it should be emphasized that those are just estimates. Especially if I have a flight to catch, I monitor that site often and plan accordingly. The site also tracks historical wait times so you can look up how long it typically takes to cross on a certain day of the week at a certain time.
Captain Solo
12-22-21, 22:20
Drove back Wednesday morning with a wingman who has no Global Entry or Sentri.
We got in line on Padre Kino in Tijuana waiting to enter the Sentri car lanes by 6:06, supposedly the time for people to go to work and school in SD. That line was long, stretched way back to the first rotary on Padre Kino. Policia Transito had 2 squad cars there with officer directing traffic, allowing blocks of cars to enter Sentri lanes. It moved fairly quick. In the US side CBP had rerouted a number of Ready lanes near the booths into Sentri lanes, total 8, with about 6 of 7 cars waiting in each.
I dropped off the wingman and drove over in the Sentri lane in total 9 minutes. CBP agents were apparently under order to open and check all trunks. Every car had trunk opened. Some agents rifled through the contents, other just looked quickly. We bought a couple bottles of liquor from duty-free stores at discount, all legal, a few brand-name labels were sold for about half Costco's prices.
Pedestrian line was short and thin, stretched back to to overpass footbridge. My wingman did not walk out of CBP building until 7:58, total time 1 hour 52 minutes. We thought it would be 3 to 4 hours, but it was not too bad. The border delays are unpredictable, vary day by day.
Drove back Wednesday morning with a wingman who has no Global Entry or Sentri.
We got in line on Padre Kino in Tijuana waiting to enter the Sentri car lanes by 6:06, supposedly the time for people to go to work and school in SD. That line was long, stretched way back to the first rotary on Padre Kino. Policia Transito had 2 squad cars there with officer directing traffic, allowing blocks of cars to enter Sentri lanes. It moved fairly quick. In the US side CBP had rerouted a number of Ready lanes near the booths into Sentri lanes, total 8, with about 6 of 7 cars waiting in each.
I dropped off the wingman and drove over in the Sentri lane in total 9 minutes. CBP agents were apparently under order to open and check all trunks. Every car had trunk opened. Some agents rifled through the contents, other just looked quickly. We bought a couple bottles of liquor from duty-free stores at discount, all legal, a few brand-name labels were sold for about half Costco's prices.
Pedestrian line was short and thin, stretched back to to overpass footbridge. My wingman did not walk out of CBP building until 7:58, total time 1 hour 52 minutes. We thought it would be 3 to 4 hours, but it was not too bad. The border delays are unpredictable, vary day by day.It took 10 months for me to get my sentri.
BlackThought
12-23-21, 02:59
This free tool lets you know of openings at SFO as they become available: https://twitter.com/GOESbot.
And, you can always do interview on re-entry from abroad to US via most airports.
So, fly from a Mexican airport to San Diego airport:
See https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-entry/enrollment-arrival.Thank you man! I'll keep an eye on it, hopefully I can find a slot that coincides with my flight in Jan.
I flew from Medellin to Mexico City on Viva Aerobus last Friday. Mexican Customs announced that special procedures apply to flights from Colombia, due to it being a major source of drugs. We were sniffed by dogs, luggage were sent through X-ray machines; one young woman was targeted, her luggage was opened up and searched carefully.
I flew from MEX to LAX arriving in the afternoon Monday, pulling along my carry-on suitcase. The walk was very long from the terminal to US Customs booths. Couple hundreds people queued up in front of the booths, none was in the GE lanes; I was the only one. A Customs woman told me to go ahead to the dozen GE machines, take my hat and mask off for the picture. The machine already read the GE card in my wallet via RFID, automatically detected and took my picture. It was all done in less than 30 seconds. That was it, I was cleared. The woman said I could go.
Meanwhile hundreds other passengers were waiting in line to be interviewed, body scanned, luggage Xrayed and searched by US Customs.
Get your GE card with the US government's trusted travelers privileges.So its worth upgrading to Global Entry from Sentri? I am waiting for my passport book since I only have a passport card and it has an option to upgrade to global entry and I will be able to get an appoiintment close to my house in DC as opposed to no appointments available for Sentri except in no where Tx and Arizona. I will upgrade to Global Entry. Thanks.
MacNCheeze
12-23-21, 17:35
So its worth upgrading to Global Entry from SentriIf you fly internationally, you'll want Global Entry. SENTRI is only for Mexico / Canada. If you already have SENTRI and only go to Tijuana, it might not matter much to you. If you were applying from scratch, Global Entry is usually preferred because it works traveling back from all countries, is cheaper, and seems to have shorter wait times to get your interview.
Captain Solo
12-23-21, 17:40
Non GE lines at US airports' Immigrations are insane.
A few guys. With legal problems, would pay $10 K to get GE card to save lots of time crossing into the US by air. AFAIK, Sentri does not work for air reentry.
If you qualify, you should get it ASAP.
I stood in line 4 hours in February one day, 10 months ago. I turned on my computer that night, applied in 20 minutes, was in office near LAX in about 4 days for appointment. Card in mail in 12 days from appointment. You need to spend time on website, understand locations, and understand appointments open up the day before because people generally cancel day before. There's going to be a 100 cancelations a day just in Lax as they seem to do probably 200 appointments a day easily. In out 15 minutes free parking at the office which is 2 miles east of the airport. This is global entry. Now I got to make sure I never get arrested and lose my global entry. Its a lot stress.
If you fly internationally, you'll want Global Entry. SENTRI is only for Mexico / Canada. If you already have SENTRI and only go to Tijuana, it might not matter much to you. If you were applying from scratch, Global Entry is usually preferred because it works traveling back from all countries, is cheaper, and seems to have shorter wait times to get your interview.If you are a US Citizen, there's no reason to get Sentri, at least not any more.
When I got my card, it was not explicitly stated anywhere on the TPP website that you could use the Sentri lanes going back and forth to Tijuana with Global Entry. Now it does. I don't know if this was a recent addition, but it now clearly states it on the TPP website.
Also, Sentri interview appointments AFAIK are only available at border points of entry. Most of the major airports have a CBP office where you can schedule your Global Entry interview.
If you fly internationally, you'll want Global Entry. SENTRI is only for Mexico / Canada. If you already have SENTRI and only go to Tijuana, it might not matter much to you. If you were applying from scratch, Global Entry is usually preferred because it works traveling back from all countries, is cheaper, and seems to have shorter wait times to get your interview.Technically not entirely true. I had my Sentri for 8 years now. I travel to Europe and Asia as well. It does work and has been golden coming in from Europe and Latin America (not just Mexico). Gets me TSA precheck and also into the fast lane coming through customs at international airports like Miami.
In other words there is no advantage getting a Global Entry vs Sentri when it comes to travel and TSA precheck, and skipping the long lines at immigration for international flights outside Mexico / Canada.
Technically not entirely true. I had my Sentri for 8 years now. I travel to Europe and Asia as well. It does work and has been golden coming in from Europe and Latin America (not just Mexico). Gets me TSA precheck and also into the fast lane coming through customs at international airports like Miami.
In other words there is no advantage getting a Global Entry vs Sentri when it comes to travel and TSA precheck, and skipping the long lines at immigration for international flights outside Mexico / Canada.Technically speaking Sentri should not be valid outside of US & Canada. But once you land. The agent / system does not know where you actually came from.
So, I would guess the difference will be visible in non Canada / Mexico airports where you clear customs at the starting airport (eg; at Dublin Ireland. I don't think they will allow Senti).
From TSA website: Sentri benefits.
Expedited vehicle / pedestrian entrance into USA From Canada and Mexico.
Access to TSA PreCheck® expedited security lanes at airports within the USA And you. S territories for USA Citizens and USA Lawful permanent residents.
From TSA website: Global Entry benefits.
Reduced wait times with self-service kiosks or E-Gates using facial comparison technologies.
No paperwork to be filled out by passengers upon entry.
Includes TSA PreCheck®.
Thursday night. HK report 10 pm. Still fun to be had actually saw a few 9 10's, and I don't pass those around like most. These were 30 year old gym fanatics with beautiful faces and bodies. But the female numbers way down compared to last 2 months. To be expected. Would been worse but the rain kept half men away probably. I looked for captain solo but I don't know what he looks like want to say Hello,.
Captain Solo
12-24-21, 20:45
Dogers69 is a monger with stories being robbed by 7 well-dressed dwarfs in Tijuana, hehe. Cannot get any wilder than that. Guys in Colombia thread would use that incident to claim Tijuana is the wildest and most lawless mongering spot in the world.
My wingmen and I would be delighted to meet you, like other cool mongers in this forum.
You should have PMed me ahead to arrange to meet. Even wingmen, who know what I look like, had difficulties finding me among hundreds people inside HK. You could also ask the front desk guys. He can send old time meseros who know and can find El Capitan in the club.
Let's meet next time, have a few drinks together and talk about what other incidents you had with dwarfs hehe.
Technically speaking Sentri should not be valid outside of US & Canada. But once you land. The agent / system does not know where you actually came from.
This is your interpretation and I applaud your effort but the real technical difference between Sentri and Global and the only one that has any significance for BPA and US immigration:
Global was designed for US passport holders and permanent residents. In other words Sentri is open to non-citizens. That's it your reading too much into what is written on their page.
You are implying that what is written on their website somehow skirted the technicality of using it other than Mexico / Canada is false the- Agent not knowing your original location is false. (again your own conclusion as to why they let Sentri pass through outside Mexico) The same rules applies to both Sentri and Global Entry.
The only other technical difference is that Sentri costs around $20 more. The agency decided to tax non US citizens and residents more money
Good friend is a BP agent.
This is your interpretation and I applaud your effort but the real technical difference between Sentri and Global and the only one that has any significance for BPA and US immigration:
Global was designed for US passport holders and permanent residents. In other words Sentri is open to non-citizens. That's it your reading too much into what is written on their page.
You are implying that what is written on their website somehow skirted the technicality of using it other than Mexico / Canada is false the- Agent not knowing your original location is false. (again your own conclusion as to why they let Sentri pass through outside Mexico) The same rules applies to both Sentri and Global Entry.
The only other technical difference is that Sentri costs around $20 more. The agency decided to tax non US citizens and residents more money .Thanks. I was looking for clues on the difference.
But you solved the mystery: Sentri is also for non citizens.
Stay away from a girl named Lola if you run across her in the club. She's typically not my type, big fake boobs and ass but she was being very friendly and affectionate downstairs, DFK, the whole 9 yards, so I figured why not throw some business her way. This was last Thursday. As soon as we got in the room her attitude completely changed and wanted to be strictly business. After several minutes of her just laying there not really doing anything I got up and called for management. Super long story short I agreed to let her keep 40 and 40 was returned to me as 80 was the agreed price. I didn't really feel like arguing for a full refund because she did blow me and I got to bang her for a few minutes. Plus management was being cool about the situation, hearing me out and not believing everything she was saying and offered me no charge for my room on my next session. Moral of the story, if you get a girl who is giving you the starfish treatment and makes you feel like you're being ripped off, speak up.
LuvMexicanas
12-26-21, 22:31
Stay away from a girl named Lola if you run across her in the club. She's typically not my type, big fake boobs and ass but she was being very friendly and affectionate downstairs, DFK, the whole 9 yards, so I figured why not throw some business her way. This was last Thursday. As soon as we got in the room her attitude completely changed and wanted to be strictly business. After several minutes of her just laying there not really doing anything I got up and called for management. Super long story short I agreed to let her keep 40 and 40 was returned to me as 80 was the agreed price. I didn't really feel like arguing for a full refund because she did blow me and I got to bang her for a few minutes. Plus management was being cool about the situation, hearing me out and not believing everything she was saying and offered me no charge for my room on my next session. Moral of the story, if you get a girl who is giving you the starfish treatment and makes you feel like you're being ripped off, speak up.Well done. It's Twisted Sister time and we're not going to take it.
Bunter Hiden
12-27-21, 04:45
HK was pretty ok the day after Christmas considering that it also fell on a Sunday which tends to be the slowest of days. Hit it at around two in the afternoon and while the selection was somewhat sparse there were a few who made it worth the trip. Cecilia from Mexico City was a very nice one to meet as was her seven week old boob job. Slender and seductive but a bit too tight when it came to rules. She says she only came for the week to pay for her new chest. I always start my visit as Caesar's and it was spot on as usual although learned never to order a margarita unless the old man is working. So sad that all the young guys don't have a clue how to make one. Will be down a few more times this week but be very aware that unless you have the GE / Sentri pass the line was a solid four hours. I arrived before noon and bailed at sunset and the line was the same all the way over the bridge and people were very cranky. Also noticed the bus line option for those that do that seemed stacked. On the plus side the rains did seem to wash the streets well.
BlackThought
12-27-21, 21:54
HK was pretty ok the day after Christmas considering that it also fell on a Sunday which tends to be the slowest of days. Hit it at around two in the afternoon and while the selection was somewhat sparse there were a few who made it worth the trip. Cecilia from Mexico City was a very nice one to meet as was her seven week old boob job. Slender and seductive but a bit too tight when it came to rules. She says she only came for the week to pay for her new chest. I always start my visit as Caesar's and it was spot on as usual although learned never to order a margarita unless the old man is working. So sad that all the young guys don't have a clue how to make one. Will be down a few more times this week but be very aware that unless you have the GE / Sentri pass the line was a solid four hours. I arrived before noon and bailed at sunset and the line was the same all the way over the bridge and people were very cranky. Also noticed the bus line option for those that do that seemed stacked. On the plus side the rains did seem to wash the streets well.If Sundays are one of the slowest of days, why don't they extend the VIP 70% off on Sundays? I hate having to use my PTO jaja.
Captain Solo
12-29-21, 20:03
Yep. Would be logical for Cascada to offer VIP discounts for Sun, Mon and Tuesday. Guys who have pulls should suggest it to HK's, Cascada's and Tropical's management.
They should also have frequent flyers' awards to promote loyalty, like credit for so many transactions, credit in case of stinky pussies or disgusting lesbians ect just some ideas.
Captain Solo
12-29-21, 20:12
Nothing,
Appreciate your info regarding cold, hard Lola. Guys need to log complaints if the girls break their promises. Girls with multiple complaints will be banished by HK 's management.
Your experience with Lola was actually not as bad as other guy, who were unfortunate to pick up hot lesbians. Lesbians are naturally disgusted with men, will act hostile in bed, restricting access and cause problems. A few bros had extremely bad sessions with this hot stripper Yselle, shown in the pic with her GF. She's pretty and sexy as hell, even won awards in stripping contests. She was back working in HK before Thanksgiving, always nice, sweet, feminine with me, but for unknown reasons, treat the other bros with disgust and hostilities in bed.
The bros should post names and pics of problem girls and cold, hard lesbos.
HK was fairly quiet Tuesday night. It was raining at times, but usually that effects the men showing up not the woman. Instead if like 10 days ago, when it was 2 or 3 girls per guy, it was probably 3 or 4 guys per girl. Still some hot girls though. Street girls weren't working with cold and rain. I didn't spend much couldn't find someone to talk to and buy drink for. In morning I walked around giving my tips to the street vendor woman on the side streets. They get so happy for 75 cent tip. How can I not. A lot of Haitian or African dudes in streets now in Tijuana. A month ago I wasn't seeing any. They must be pouring into Mexico and leaving Tijuana for USA quickly. All you need to do is get over that fence and they don't send you back anymore. No point to sit around 8 months for asylum entrance. I think some will miss Tijuana. Where else can you get three tacos for a dollar 25 cents just two blocks from Hong Kong.
BigButtDetecto
12-29-21, 21:51
Cascadas, the hotel where the girls from Hong Kong club go for their job has drastically increased their price; I took a girl yesterday and they charged me $ 30 for half hour. Up from $20 a month ago.
Captain Solo
12-29-21, 23:53
Economy is down, business is slow for everyone, demands for goods and services declined across all segments of the economy. Logically prices should go down to meet lower demands, instead HK girls and Cascada just conveniently raise prices to make up for lost sales hehe. Cascada's ST room $30 for 30 minutes, with $100 ornery HK girls and early knocking, is getting ridiculous. Girls get 25% kick back for the room so they may have pressured Cascada's management.
You can rent your own room on Mon and Tuesday with 70% VIP discount, or ask the girls to walk over to Rizo, which still charges $20ST with no or very short waiting line. The rooms were recently remodeled, look and feel about the same as Cascada, may be a little smaller.
Or you can take street girls, many are just as hot as HK girls but with friendlier and sweeter attitudes. Humping $20 street girls in Cascada's $6ST rooms is the best solution to cold, hard HK girls and greedy Cascada's management.
LuvMexicanas
12-29-21, 23:55
Cascadas, the hotel where the girls from Hong Kong club go for their job has drastically increased their price; I took a girl yesterday and they charged me $ 30 for half hour. Up from $20 a month ago.If your intention is to bang HK chicas, definitely get a room at Cascadas. You basically break even on a single room if you're doing two a day and coming out way ahead if you're doing three a day.
Cascadas, the hotel where the girls from Hong Kong club go for their job has drastically increased their price; I took a girl yesterday and they charged me $ 30 for half hour. Up from $20 a month ago.Did you get free drinks for that $30, because a lot guys sayvits $30 now but they get 2 drinks with the room. Another words, guys aren't insisting on just the room. For instance from what I read, if you insist on just the room, no drinks, the price is not $30. Unless that's changed in last week or 2. To buy a girl or yourself a drink is terrible idea. You can drink downstairs with her without eating intonyourb30 minutes. 30 minutes is already 10 minutes of sex, 4 minutes of blow job. Now you start buying drinks and lose another 7 minutes.
BlackThought
12-30-21, 04:13
Cascadas, the hotel where the girls from Hong Kong club go for their job has drastically increased their price; I took a girl yesterday and they charged me $ 30 for half hour. Up from $20 a month ago.They're probably trying to recuperate the money they spent on renovations. At this point, we really have no other options if you want to have sex with 8's+, unless some of the girls quit and move to Adelitas.
LuvMexicanas
12-30-21, 04:13
Nothing,
Appreciate your info regarding cold, hard Lola. Guys need to log complaints if the girls break their promises. Girls with multiple complaints will be banished by HK 's management.
Your experience with Lola was actually not as bad as other guy, who were unfortunate to pick up hot lesbians. Lesbians are naturally disgusted with men, will act hostile in bed, restricting access and cause problems. A few bros had extremely bad sessions with this hot stripper Yselle, shown in the pic with her GF. She's pretty and sexy as hell, even won awards in stripping contests. She was back working in HK before Thanksgiving, always nice, sweet, feminine with me, but for unknown reasons, treat the other bros with disgust and hostilities in bed.
The bros should post names and pics of problem girls and cold, hard lesbos.I didn't know Amanda Nunes had a girlfriend at HK.
Captain Solo
12-30-21, 05:26
Hunter,
Cecilia, with her recent boob and butt job plus liposuction, is from Sonora, not CDMX. After surgeries, she lost her government ID, could not board planes, so had to sit on the bus back to Sonora and waited for new issue.
She's not known for tight rules. She BB guys including a 4-hour GFE session with my wingman last Wednesday.
Perhaps you should try her again.
Day after Christmas.
Did you get free drinks for that $30, because a lot guys sayvits $30 now but they get 2 drinks with the room. Another words, guys aren't insisting on just the room. For instance from what I read, if you insist on just the room, no drinks, the price is not $30. Unless that's changed in last week or 2. To buy a girl or yourself a drink is terrible idea. You can drink downstairs with her without eating intonyourb30 minutes. 30 minutes is already 10 minutes of sex, 4 minutes of blow job. Now you start buying drinks and lose another 7 minutes.It's the latest HK scam. Happened right in front of me this week. At the front desk, one of the HK-Cascadas pimps saw a newbie and told him that his chica wanted a drink. Moron could not say no because he was scared shitless that the girl wouldn't love him. So he buckled and gave in and got surcharged $10. Fucker gave all Asians a bad name. Pushover chump.
As I left, a couple of cleaners lined up outside my room. They must have mistaken me for that guy and lined up outside to receive tips. A couple of them frowned and bitched when I gave only the first guy a buck. I told the guy with the dollar to tear up the dollar I gave him and give it parts of it to his buddies to prove his friendship. Yeah I took a shower afterwards. Yeah I used all three towels. Yeah I probably overstayed my time. But I figured that my long lost cousin paid extra, part of it was for me.
Ain't nothing free in this world, including HK scams.
Captain Solo
12-30-21, 06:00
When I came back to LAX mid December, there were about a dozen Global Entry machines sit empty in an area next to the regular US Immigration lines, with about 400 people waiting.
The Immigration woman asked if I had Global Entry and told me to go to a machine, take down hat and mask for a picture. The machine quickly took a pic, and flashed an "all clear" message on the screen. It all happened automatically and silently without my input. I was used to the old GE machines where you had to scan in your passport and finger prints. This new machine did everything by itself quickly. Looked like it read the RFID info from the card in my wallet, pulled up my data including facial features, took a pic of my face and did a facial recognition routine, may be even a quick sniff of my hairy crotch hehe and decided a pass / fail. I went through US Imm and Customs in less than 30 sec, no human check, no luggage Xray.
Facial recognition technology may have made great progresses, but my face definitely looks a lot older since I first applied for GE 8 years ago. Still don't know how they can verify facial features reliably. Would hate to see my shifty brother in law steal my GE card and smuggle some shit hehe.
Not sure if SENTRI would work at airports. Some bros should check it out.
They're probably trying to recuperate the money they spent on renovations. At this point, we really have no other options if you want to have sex with 8's+, unless some of the girls quit and move to Adelitas.Also I read a few weeks ago about HK getting fined for various labor infractions. Supposedly it was just over 16 million pesos. Not a small junk if change este it's the business that they have lost over the last 2 years.
Next time I'm down I'll be sure to ask about it since I missed it in the Tijuana paper.
Bunter Hiden
12-30-21, 21:04
Hunter,
Cecilia, with her recent boob and butt job plus liposuction, is from Sonora, not CDMX. After surgeries, she lost her government ID, could not board planes, so had to sit on the bus back to Sonora and waited for new issue.
She's not known for tight rules. She BB guys including a 4-hour GFE session with my wingman last Wednesday.
Perhaps you should try her again.
Day after Christmas.Ahoy Capitano. Must have given me her real name as she took my phone and put in her digits +name+ where from. She has an ass that would fit in a tea cup and is tiny except for her recent additions which are topped by very long nipples. Area code is 55 so Mexico City checks out. We talked about food so much she says she will meet me in Cabo my next trip so I can cook for her. FWIW I am repulsed by big fake asses. They are out of control. Yesterday there were many that not even would belong in a cartoon. Will prolly hit HK once more on the last day of year even with rain coming. I will be the guy in the blue rain slicker if anyone wants to tip a few beers.
BlackThought
12-30-21, 22:56
Also I read a few weeks ago about HK getting fined for various labor infractions. Supposedly it was just over 16 million pesos. Not a small junk if change este it's the business that they have lost over the last 2 years.
Next time I'm down I'll be sure to ask about it since I missed it in the Tijuana paper.That's close to $800 K USD, wow. They'd have to sell 80,000 watered down fichas.
Also I read a few weeks ago about HK getting fined for various labor infractions. Supposedly it was just over 16 million pesos. Not a small junk if change este it's the business that they have lost over the last 2 years.
Next time I'm down I'll be sure to ask about it since I missed it in the Tijuana paper.https://tecateinformativo.com/imponen-multa-millonaria-al-hong-kong-por-emplear-a-menores-de-edad/
This article's says they got hit with a $16 MM peso fine. The headline says it was for hiring underage people, although there's no details in the article that actually detail what the infractions were, they just cite general labor violations.
https://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/Noticia/Tijuana/19116/%E2%80%9CMult%C3%B3n%E2%80%9D-de-16-millones-al-Hong-Kong
This one offers more details. Basically it says that they ran afoul of a bunch of accounting and regulatory compliance issues, like keeping payroll receipts, not paying out required bonuses, not paying their utility bills (in Mexico the Government owns the utilities) and a bunch of other stuff like that. It doesn't say how far back this thing goes, and I don't care to look up the actual statement from the state Government, but a fine this big probably means that it goes back a long time or that the state Government thinks that they are making so much money, that they can take a hit like this and be completely fine.
De acuerdo al secretario del Trabajo, la empresa incurri en una serie de incumplimientos de obligaciones laborales; por ejemplo, que los empleados y sus familias no cuentan con seguridad social, adems de que la compaa no pudo demostrar comprobantes de pago de nmina, aguinaldo, vacaciones, prima vacacional, prima dominical, pago de utilidades, entre otros. The article is dated late October 2021, and that's about when people started reporting that the price of everything went up. Looks like they are indeed attempting to recover the $800,000 USD fine one ficha and one ST room at a time.
I doubt they were knowingly hiring underage dancers, at least knowingly. My guess is that it's a bunch of the errand boys, dish washers, cleaning people, etc, because that's actually very common in Mexico. The inability to provide payroll records, probably is the biggest hint that's the case, because the girls are all supposed to have health cards, and just about every Government transaction in Mexico requires your National ID. They were probably hiring foreigners to do shit jobs, which is why they can't produce any payroll documentation, since it would be illegal to hire them in the first place.
Read somewhere that a lot of big businesses in Tijuana were paying off employees of the municipal water utility to short their water meter reads and billings and this had been going on for years. Now the government is going after these businesses for the underpaid water bills accumulated over many years. . . Think it was to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars lost to Tijuana municipality for these big businesses over many years. . . Wonder if any hotels or clubs got back billed recently?
https://tecateinformativo.com/imponen-multa-millonaria-al-hong-kong-por-emplear-a-menores-de-edad/
This article's says they got hit with a $16 MM peso fine. The headline says it was for hiring underage people, although there's no details in the article that actually detail what the infractions were, they just cite general labor violations.
https://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/Noticia/Tijuana/19116/%E2%80%9CMult%C3%B3n%E2%80%9D-de-16-millones-al-Hong-Kong
This one offers more details. Basically it says that they ran afoul of a bunch of accounting and regulatory compliance issues, like keeping payroll receipts, not paying out required bonuses, not paying their utility bills (in Mexico the Government owns the utilities) and a bunch of other stuff like that. It doesn't say how far back this thing goes, and I don't care to look up the actual statement from the state Government, but a fine this big probably means that it goes back a long time or that the state Government thinks that they are making so much money, that they can take a hit like this and be completely fine.
The article is dated late October 2021, and that's about when people started reporting that the price of everything went up. Looks like they are indeed attempting to recover the $800,000 USD fine one ficha and one ST room at a time.
I figure they will be out from under a $800 K US fine, in about two weeks of fichas, bottles, and customer beers.
Just fichas, and conservatively they make $7/ ea profit on them. That's onlt 3800 bottles a night.
Then you get $600 bottles that cost $50. And that number goes _way_ down.
Ahoy Capitano. Must have given me her real name as she took my phone and put in her digits +name+ where from. She has an ass that would fit in a tea cup and is tiny except for her recent additions which are topped by very long nipples. Area code is 55 so Mexico City checks out. We talked about food so much she says she will meet me in Cabo my next trip so I can cook for her. FWIW I am repulsed by big fake asses. They are out of control. Yesterday there were many that not even would belong in a cartoon. Will prolly hit HK once more on the last day of year even with rain coming. I will be the guy in the blue rain slicker if anyone wants to tip a few beers.Same same. I can manage with _reasonably_ well done fake tits, but ass implant just make me ill.
Failure to keep the books in a high cash environment. Gee wiz. I sure hope the Cartels aren't using HK to launder money. Yeah, I'm sure it was an accident.
Nothing,
Appreciate your info regarding cold, hard Lola. Guys need to log complaints if the girls break their promises. Girls with multiple complaints will be banished by HK 's management.
Your experience with Lola was actually not as bad as other guy, who were unfortunate to pick up hot lesbians. Lesbians are naturally disgusted with men, will act hostile in bed, restricting access and cause problems. A few bros had extremely bad sessions with this hot stripper Yselle, shown in the pic with her GF. She's pretty and sexy as hell, even won awards in stripping contests. She was back working in HK before Thanksgiving, always nice, sweet, feminine with me, but for unknown reasons, treat the other bros with disgust and hostilities in bed.
The bros should post names and pics of problem girls and cold, hard lesbos.Thanks for posting. The Lola I knew from a couple years ago was a Sweet girl who I knew couldn't be the same girl that you described. I have not seen the Lola I knew in a year so maybe she is back home or something. She had really dark skin.
G.
Captain Solo
12-31-21, 08:56
For 2021 it was about $12 per day, increase to $13 for 2022.
I understand HK will not pay people working tip-based jobs, like meseros, hotel room attendants, bathroom attendants, valet parking. Instead those people have to pay HK for their jobs to earn tips, which can be a lot more than minimum wages. The hustling meseros can make $100-200 tips on busy nights. It's a damn good job in Mexico. Looks like HK treats putas as independent contractors. They are not completely independent but have pretty flexible work schedule, have to follow work rules, but are unpaid. Strippers are paid 500 pesos for 3 performances. They survive entirely on selling sex, fichas and tips.
That system would have problems reporting legal payroll and got HK into troubles.
It's not an outrageous practice. In California minimum wage for tip workers is $1.26 an hour. Read news articles that Hooters girls complained bitterly they make so little with this low min wage when guys don't tip.
F In California minimum wage for tip workers is $1.26 an hour. Not true, its higher than $1. 26, but the employer -must- pay up to the state min wage. It is an absolute floor.
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