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Regias Voice
02-04-22, 00:28
For what it's worth I just checked this morning with the girl I know who works at HK. She's still insisting that the Facebook link is the girl from room 404. Not like I would know and I believe the girl I know is just going off information she's gotten from someone else but that's what she's saying and she wouldn't have a reason to lie about that. I will say she could very easily be mistaken but she's saying that girl from Facebook is the same one who passed away in 404.The girl who was killed in 404 was my best friend and lover. She texted her mother "404 30 min" at 10 pm. She was using the name Regia and previously used Caro. She was beautiful. I won't post her real name or facebook here out of respect for the family. I found this chatroom just googling away trying to find anything I could. I was trying to find KoolBeans original post but couldn't for some reason. I have been warning all the girls I know, but wanted to find out about the chat group he mentioned. Some of the girls know what happened but most only know the clubs official story of OD. This was murder.
Litmus Smut
02-04-22, 05:55
I have a question about changing money. Can someone recommend a good, reputable cambio? Or, if you take smaller bills (1, 5, 10) can you pay for everything from food to HK club that way?
And thanks to those that replied to my question. About a week ago about HK prices and SW prices. The Intel is appreciated.
Greggy,
Couple guys can share a room in Cascada if they have the white wrist band put on them by reception. Cascada checks for guests that way. Just take it off and tape it on the next guy.
But Cascada is inconsistent with this wrist band. Sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't. I have taken girls to my room many times without the wristband. Reception would ask what room you are going to, sometimes they would not.
Rizo is a lot more lac. I never had any wristband there. Anybody can come and go.Thanks for the scoop.
G.
BrotherMouzone
02-04-22, 06:49
The girl who was killed in 404 was my best friend and lover. She texted her mother "404 30 min" at 10 pm. She was using the name Regia and previously used Caro. She was beautiful. I won't post her real name or facebook here out of respect for the family. I found this chatroom just googling away trying to find anything I could. I was trying to find KoolBeans original post but couldn't for some reason. I have been warning all the girls I know, but wanted to find out about the chat group he mentioned. Some of the girls know what happened but most only know the clubs official story of OD. This was murder.Very sorry to hear about your friend. May she rest in peace. Do you mind answering why she would be texting her own mother the details of her sex work like her room number and how long she was going to be? Was that something she did regularly? Or was it that she was anticipating something bad might happen? Or possibly her mother worked at the club as well? The nature of the text just seems extremely odd sorry.
Regias Voice
02-04-22, 08:34
Very sorry to hear about your friend. May she rest in peace. Do you mind answering why she would be texting her own mother the details of her sex work like her room number and how long she was going to be? Was that something she did regularly? Or was it that she was anticipating something bad might happen? Or possibly her mother worked at the club as well? The nature of the text just seems extremely odd sorry.Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.
I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable. Men like us who love these places could probably stand to have some additional door knocks / security protocols in the name of protecting the women we go here for.
My friend, please go to Scandolo in Sao Paulo, Brazil. They quality of women is definitely a notch above Hong Kong but I do have to admit HK is up there as one of the best venues for hot gals, high quantity of selection, etc. I have travelled in over 23 countries and have been to many places such as Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, Mexico, Dominican Republic and more. Scandolo in Brazil has unbelievable high quality gals. But HK on certain nights with its 100 plus gals can be Fantasyland.I never made it to Scandalo yet but I've heard it's out of this world. Tried some boates in Rio tho. I haven't been as many places as you bud but for me HK is number one for the amount of pure nakedness, the shaving cream show or whatever it was; once I was there they even brought out the dildo machine and let a dude use it on the girl for a few bucks. Not to mention you can go in at anytime of day. I prefer the Colombians and Brazilians but as far as places to just hang HK can't be beat!
I have a question about changing money. Can someone recommend a good, reputable cambio? Or, if you take smaller bills (1, 5, 10) can you pay for everything from food to HK club that way?
And thanks to those that replied to my question. About a week ago about HK prices and SW prices. The Intel is appreciated.Reputable?
It's math, and they show you the rate.
I never made it to Scandallo...
but for me HK is number one for the amount of pure nakedness, the shaving cream show or whatever it was; once I was there they even brought out the dildo machine and let a dude use it on the girl for a few bucks. Not to mention you can go in at anytime of day. I prefer the Colombians and Brazilians but as far as places to just hang HK can't be beat!You are semi right about your feelings towards the Hong Kong club. You simply can't beat the convenience, but Scandallo is a different world. You need to experience that then update your post.
You are semi right about your feelings towards the Hong Kong club. You simply can't beat the convenience, but Scandallo is a different world. You need to experience that then update your post.I've been to SP 2 times 3 technically but I never made it to Scandallo because I have a list of Garotas programmas soooo long from twitter I want to fuck but yes next time I will. But I just love HK grime LOL. Tequila, smoke everywhere and naked women everywhere you turn. The Brazilians are def hotter but in the boate they got clothes on and I don't think a dollar gets you a full ass squeeze like HK does haha.
Captain Solo
02-04-22, 21:24
BMov,
HK is super charged with sexy excitements primarily with hot, sweet, smiling girls in bikinis swirling around flirting with guys.
IMHO, the flirting factor makes HK unique and far more attractive than other clubs. Other bars in Tijuana, Adelita, Chicago, Tropical, have lots of naked girls, but they tend to be passive, lack the flirt factor, so those bars cannot match the appeals of HK.
If girls approach me in HK, I would always tip them to encourage to come to work, even if I have to gently turn them away. Hell haths no fury like a woman scorned. In my life I made a lot of life-time enemies with women whom I didn't want relationships, however nice and gentle I avoided them. They just hate and despise me for life. Damn.
Litmus Smut
02-04-22, 21:56
So that's a yes. Change money. Don't spend dollars. Convert to pesos.
Thanks for helping read between the lines of your one liner.
Reputable?
It's math, and they show you the rate.
Bunter Hiden
02-04-22, 22:05
Reputable?
It's math, and they show you the rate.Best exchange rates are on the USA side. Not much of a difference but 5%. Don't change any amount over $500 at any one place or they will ask for your ID and fill out a federal report. Happened to me. Would not give my money back until I handed over my ID. Lady asked me why I was changing $1000 and I told her I didn't like what conversion rate the dentist was using. Just about any place you go deals in dollars and the exchange is usually close to 20/1. However when I was in Cabo many places still post 15/1 which hasn't been the exchange rate in forever. Most places post so just look for a sign that says cambio. Peso was supposed to keep sinking but I think if oil goes north of $100 it should strengthen.
Captain Solo
02-04-22, 23:32
Don't forget the area around Univ do Sao Paolo, only a few miles West of Scandalo Lounge.
Ave de Universidade has dozens tall, dark trannies hang out in colorful dresses, chasing cars on the street in the day time. They look pretty skanky. Should be far more lively after dark.
I was given a tour of the city by a professor. He was an old staunch Catholic, repeatedly apologetic about the sexy scene and high crimes in Sao Paolo. After the tour he took me to the most famous churrascaria for lunch. It was a very fancy place but there were no clients, just 2 of us. In comparison with Tijuana, the crowds here are always far bigger, meats more delicious and the fun factors exceptional, not to mention nice, clean, hot, smiling sexy, biologically real girls 24/7.
LuvMexicanas
02-05-22, 01:00
Reputable?
It's math, and they show you the rate.Funny and true at the same time. Good dry humor.
Was a little sparce in the afternoon but was pretty full of pretty girls by 5:00. The last two times there I have met a new girl that had just started. Hopefully that means they will be coming in good numbers this spring.
They had a live band in Chevalas. Was pretty loud and traditional Mexican.
Was already spent from seeing a regular but met a nice new one. She asked why I was sitting alone and I said "no dinero". She laughed but did not leave as I thought she would. She sat down and I did buy her a drink. 190 pesos. We talked about her learning English and me Spanish and agreed to meet in the near future for dinner and lessons to each other.
Street girls are sett on 400 pesos minimum and everything is 600. Took a girl up who agreed to 500 and she was good. However afterward she tried to change it to 700. I know it is not much to us but the principle of the thing got me and I would not budge.
If anyone has questions I am also on the USA board.
My 2 c.
Best exchange rates are on the USA side. Not much of a difference but 5%. Don't change any amount over $500 at any one place or they will ask for your ID and fill out a federal report. Happened to me. Would not give my money back until I handed over my ID. Lady asked me why I was changing $1000 and I told her I didn't like what conversion rate the dentist was using. Just about any place you go deals in dollars and the exchange is usually close to 20/1. However when I was in Cabo many places still post 15/1 which hasn't been the exchange rate in forever. Most places post so just look for a sign that says cambio. Peso was supposed to keep sinking but I think if oil goes north of $100 it should strengthen.15 to 1 is horrible. USA Near San Ysidro border has best rates, but Tijuana has 20 to 1 near the Zona. It is displayed on the LED boards. If it displays 0's, then they are closed.
Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.
I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable. Men like us who love these places could probably stand to have some additional door knocks / security protocols in the name of protecting the women we go here for.Sorry for your loss and may she Rest In Peace. You can possibly find out more about the group chat from the chicas at work. It is alarming how much the club protects their image, but then again, they need the clients to keep pouring money into machine and many of the workers are just a cog in the larger machine. I would imagine the cleanup guys would have found your friend as they are pretty prompt with making sure you know time is up. They were probably told to keep quiet or risk losing their jobs. Such a sad state of affairs and hope the club can make safer working conditions for the ladies as they wouldn't exist without them. Everyone makes money off their drinks, time, etc.
I have a question about changing money. Can someone recommend a good, reputable cambio? Or, if you take smaller bills (1, 5, 10) can you pay for everything from food to HK club that way?
And thanks to those that replied to my question. About a week ago about HK prices and SW prices. The Intel is appreciated.Use a regular bank ATM.
I use HSBC ATM on the main blvd (I use the one in Calimax).
I use it with my Schwab card. Schwab rebates ATM fees and gives you great rates.
ATMS offer you to give you requested number of pesos for a fixed number of dollars. Do not accept that. Hit no and get the exchange rate offered by your bank.
ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 17:15
Use a regular bank ATM.
I use HSBC ATM on the main blvd (I use the one in Calimax).
I use it with my Schwab card. Schwab rebates ATM fees and gives you great rates.
ATMS offer you to give you requested number of pesos for a fixed number of dollars. Do not accept that. Hit no and get the exchange rate offered by your bank.HSBC has an ATM in the Sorina grocery store on Revo (near 3rd) in a good secure feeling location next to the store's low-key pharmacy.
In my 15 years visiting HK, I have not had one single good arriba with the girls who flirt / approach you. Conversely, some of the greatest, nastiest lays I've ever had (including civie one night stands in my personal life) have come from girls who were sitting by themselves at a table, looking dejected. The flirty girls are the ones who *need* to sell.
Reputable?
It's math, and they show you the rate.Well, yes and no. It was a legit question and deserves more than a flippant remark.
OP. I've exchanged money for many years. Most cambios don't do the bill switch trick. I think one poster said he was cheated in that manner, but it's easy to avoid by simply stating the amount you wish to change when handing it to the clerk, and make sure you recount the money after you receive it.
Now as far as reputable, all cambios say "No Commission. " However, some sneak in a "Service Charge. " This is terribly dishonest and these places should be avoided. I can only think of three places, offhand, where I've encountered this. There are two cambios at the eastern terminus of San Ysidro Blvd. They're side by side. IIRC the one on the right sneaks in a service charge, the other does not. I usually change my money at the Baja Mex drive-through on San Ysidro Blvd. One time there was a huge line and I was in a hurry. I stopped at the little one opposite Baja Mex, the one that NEVER has anybody using it. I changed my money, hopped in the car, and was mentally calculating as I left. Something didn't add up so I checked the receipt and, sure enough, a service charge was there at the bottom. The third place I can recall is the one diagonally across Sanchez Taboada from Costco. Next to the Roma pharmacy. They, too, dinged me once with a service charge. So I no longer use them, either.
The service charge is not large, but it's the principle. I have never had a problem with any of the cambios near the trolley station at the border. Just look for the best rates.
BrotherMouzone
02-05-22, 20:32
Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.
Wow, very sorry to hear all of this. If I was the mother I might've called the police a couple hours into that 12 hour wait though I suppose with the way things work in Mexico with the ability to bribe police and other first responders that may not have done much good anyway.
Can I ask you another question? A girl I know at HK forwarded me the following explanation of what happened, words that came directly from someone who knew the girl that was killed:
"Mi novia fue asesinada alli el lunes por la noche. En la habitacion 404. No la revisaron durante 15 horas. Estuve alli con su madre durante 13 horas rogandoles que abrieran la puerta why se negaron. Fue drogada, robada why dada por muerta. La administracion no hizo nada. Nos dijeron que revisaron la habitacion why que no habia nadie. Ella estaba alli muriendo. ".
Were you the one who wrote this? I assumed that when the person who wrote this referred to your friend as "mi novia" that it was probably just a close girlfriend of hers. But maybe these are your words? Also, does her last name begin with "Chis" or "de Chis"? (That is what another girl from Adelitas is telling me.).
What I can tell you is that the picture of the girl from Facebook was included, via text message, in the same explanation I received (in Spanish above) about the killing. So that is a rumor that is being spread around widely that the girl from Facebook is the girl who passed in room 404. Given that, it might be worth clarifying the real identity of the girl in 404. Both for her sake and for the sake of the other poor girl from Facebook who's apparently being incorrectly associated with this murder.
Also, are you certain it was a "murder" as opposed to an accidental OD that they're trying to cover up?
I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable.Absolutely, this should go without saying. But obviously that's how they're treated in the clubs. This type of thing is nothing new from what I understand. Honestly makes me feel like I need to sit down and give some serious thought as to whether I should continue to give business to clubs like this that treat women this way. There's an argument to be made that, as customers, we're contributing to some of the ugly stuff going on here.
Take care and sorry again about your friend.
I have a question about changing money. Can someone recommend a good, reputable cambio? Or, if you take smaller bills (1, 5, 10) can you pay for everything from food to HK club that way?
And thanks to those that replied to my question. About a week ago about HK prices and SW prices. The Intel is appreciated.A popular place for an exchange is the San Ysidro trolley station. Two or three currency exchange places right next to Mc Donald's. My opinion is better to use US dollars because they are accepted all over Tijuana in all clubs without a problem. If you are unfamiliar with Mexican currency and coins in a dark club and after a few drinks the waiter can easily cheat you because you have to divide everything by 20 to know the US dollar value (pain in the neck.) Best to have a lot of US $ 1 bills for tips and for.... groping chicas in the club and US $ 5 bills because it's easy to pay for a beer in club and taxi, food etc.
Her mother knew where she worked and texting room # and time she expected to be there was standard for them. It was supposed to be for safety. I believe many girls do this, just probably not with their mothers. When she didn't text that she had left the room or was staying longer her mother messaged her. She never responded and then the messages stopped being delivered. Her mother panicked and went to the club around 12:30 am. Management kept her in a waiting room telling her that "the room was empty" "she must be back in the club". Her mother never left and pleaded with management to help and they just strung her along for 12 hours. And 12 hours after her mother had raised the alarm the ambulance and police pulled up. I share this because, we go to these places for the women. I fell in love with one. And she loved me back. She would not accept money from me, no matter how hard I tried to convince to take the help.
I believe they deserve our respect, but at a minimum, none of them should be treated as expendable. Men like us who love these places could probably stand to have some additional door knocks / security protocols in the name of protecting the women we go here for.It will be difficult to prove murder. The mother should consider suing HK / Cascadas for Employer Negligence. You should pass it on.
The Catholic church did shit for decades. Until they got their ass kicked by civil suits. Welcome to American justice. Just saying.
Patronshot12
02-05-22, 21:42
So I come here about once a month. I seem to always have a bad experience with the morning crew. Now I know it's my fault but I'm usually the type that just goes up to a girl and will get straight to the point. How much for upstairs and will head up. If she's hot and the price works. And most times it goes well. But not from this Saturday morning crew. They seem more desperate for money it was extremely dead. She started with "wash your hands" then "don't touch me there" and lastly that a covered BJ was not included. This girl named "Atta" from Sonora. Petite with decent face.
Anyway, it was awful. As soon as the money touched her hand, she started asking do I want anything extra? I was curious what that meant. Well, It meant her $100 price tag included the same service as a $20 dollar street girl. I was pissed as try to power through and fuck her but her fake pornstar screams made it impossible. I stopped after 15 minutes and told her to leave and that her attitude and sales tactics are shit. I've never complained to the managers because I don't know if it's worth my time. But am considering it if she'll be held accountable if she continues her same tactics.
A popular place for an exchange is the San Ysidro trolley station. Two or three currency exchange places right next to Mc Donald's. My opinion is better to use US dollars because they are accepted all over Tijuana in all clubs without a problem. If you are unfamiliar with Mexican currency and coins in a dark club and after a few drinks the waiter can easily cheat you because you have to divide everything by 20 to know the US dollar value (pain in the neck.) Best to have a lot of US $ 1 bills for tips and for.... groping chicas in the club and US $ 5 bills because it's easy to pay for a beer in club and taxi, food etc.Got to watch that. I've caught places taking dollars and "whoops" missing 5% of the conversion when the change comes.
HK is big for this "Give me change" and whoops. $1 missing in the "conversion" of $20 to Pesos at the wall posted rate.
AmorPorFavor
02-05-22, 23:29
HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers.
BlackThought
02-05-22, 23:44
HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers.I did not know they didn't take copies of the ID when they book the rooms. I guess they only do it for people with VIP cards? I had to give them my VIP card + driver's license at the front desk during check-in.
They definitely should take copies of the ID, fucking scum bags that hurt women should be caught and punished accordingly. Two of my HK chicks quit working there after this recent murder.
Captain Solo
02-05-22, 23:47
Amor,
I am surprised I have not read any news from local press about this murder. They usually like to do detailed reports on putas, mongers, sex, drugs, money, murder ect. They sell papers.
Don't worry. HK / Cascada have a large security system with lots of people and equipment, lots of high-res cameras everywhere, plus intels from the meseros, chicas and workers. They have a lot more info about and know more about guys in their club than you think, more than enough to help lead the hapless policias to make quick arrest.
HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers.This occupational hazard isn't exclusive to just HK and has been a part of the world oldest profession. Who truly knows what happened in the room and if it was intentional or an accident. HK is and has been the biggest draw in Tijuana so things sadly won't change. "Accidents" intentional or not happen all of the time in this hobby.
AmorPorFavor
02-06-22, 02:25
I did not know they didn't take copies of the ID when they book the rooms. I guess they only do it for people with VIP cards? I had to give them my VIP card + driver's license at the front desk during check-in.
They definitely should take copies of the ID, fucking scum bags that hurt women should be caught and punished accordingly. Two of my HK chicks quit working there after this recent murder.They definitely take a copy of your ID if you take a room for the night. Its been a while since I have done a short time room cause I like spending more time with the chicas and buy a room for the day. Also gives me a place to chill. Also haven't done a chica there in like 9 months because I have a regular at Ticuan now although I have been in the club. I think that they don't make a copy if its a short time room. Is this correct?
Went in to spend an hour of so this afternoon.
Downstairs a Mesero wouldn't give me $20 Pesos as change for a 200 P bill, and upstairs one wouldn't give me $1 bills for a 500 P bill.
BOTH said "we don't do that".
Said this was BS, and left.
Never had that issue before, but I've never gone in the afternoon when F-Troop was staffing the place either.
Cocr Brotheler
02-06-22, 02:31
HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers.Exactly how I feel.
Things happen regularly in and around strip clubs in the US also and I can remember a chica in Hotel Del Rey Costa Rica stabbed another chica to death in the downstairs slot machine area near the restrooms before the pandemic. But HK is suppose to be a safe happy place with very strong security. My sad condolences for her, her family and friends. Perhaps it was drug fueled rage (thinking the clone cocaine bath salt drugs that turn people into killers) or even accidental homicide. Hope this gets a fair investigation and they screen out these cold blooded killers.
They tried to place me on 4th floor back in November room 403 or 407 maybe even 404. I refused and wanted something higher where I felt not as much traffic of who knows who in and out.
So I come here about once a month. I seem to always have a bad experience with the morning crew. Now I know it's my fault but I'm usually the type that just goes up to a girl and will get straight to the point. How much for upstairs and will head up. If she's hot and the price works. And most times it goes well. But not from this Saturday morning crew. They seem more desperate for money it was extremely dead. She started with "wash your hands" then "don't touch me there" and lastly that a covered BJ was not included. This girl named "Atta" from Sonora. Petite with decent face.
Anyway, it was awful. As soon as the money touched her hand, she started asking do I want anything extra? I was curious what that meant. Well, It meant her $100 price tag included the same service as a $20 dollar street girl. I was pissed as try to power through and fuck her but her fake pornstar screams made it impossible. I stopped after 15 minutes and told her to leave and that her attitude and sales tactics are shit. I've never complained to the managers because I don't know if it's worth my time. But am considering it if she'll be held accountable if she continues her same tactics.I guess things could always be worse. At least she wasn't a starfish. I am not sure complaining about her services would do much as it is a YMMV hobby. One person may get phenomenal service while the other may get a starfish. Powering through must have meant you actually finished. It would be annoying to upsell when in the room so best to negotiate prior to arriba.
AmorPorFavor
02-06-22, 02:39
Exactly how I feel.
Things happen regularly in and around strip clubs in the US also and I can remember a chica in Hotel Del Rey Costa Rica stabbed another chica to death in the downstairs slot machine area near the restrooms before the pandemic. But HK is suppose to be a safe happy place with very strong security. My sad condolences for her, her family and friends. Perhaps it was drug fueled rage (thinking the clone cocaine bath salt drugs that turn people into killers) or even accidental homicide. Hope this gets a fair investigation and they screen out these cold blooded killers.
They tried to place me on 4th floor back in November room 403 or 407 maybe even 404. I refused and wanted something higher where I felt not as much traffic of who knows who in and out.Her friend said that she was robbed.
Cocr Brotheler
02-06-22, 02:42
Was it a short term room?
Will be down to HK-landia this Sunday about 2:30 pm if all goes as planned. Sounds like a few others maybe down as well. Message me thru the forum if want to connect up.
G.
Captain Solo
02-06-22, 08:22
Cocr.
Fourth floor is the girls' dormitory. HK puts them up 2 in a room. But they will send ST guys there when they run out of ST rooms on 2nd and 3rd floors.
But don't worry. Whatever floor you are on, the bloody girl with her throat slit will find you.
Was it a short term room?
HK needs to stop this from happening again. They should make a copy of ID's for short time rooms. This guy should be on video, I hope it is being investigated. Makes me think twice about spending money there after reading all this. Its also scary to think that we are in the club brushing shoulders with stone cold killers."Brushing shoulders with stone cold killers" jajaja en Tijuana? In Zona Norte? Es not possible. I bet if you want to a nyc strip club or Chicago strip club there's at least 10 stone cold killers a day who show up.
In my 15 years visiting HK, I have not had one single good arriba with the girls who flirt / approach you. Conversely, some of the greatest, nastiest lays I've ever had (including civie one night stands in my personal life) have come from girls who were sitting by themselves at a table, looking dejected. The flirty girls are the ones who *need* to sell.That's the thing about me, I have a tough time approaching a girl sitting by herself looking bored. Always makes me think she doesn't want to be there and I don't know how to spark the conversation.
Regias Voice
02-06-22, 08:44
Wow, very sorry to hear all of this. If I was the mother I might've called the police a couple hours into that 12 hour wait though I suppose with the way things work in Mexico with the ability to bribe police and other first responders that may not have done much good anyway.
Can't report a missing person in MX for 72hrs. She tried.
Can I ask you another question? A girl I know at HK forwarded me the following explanation of what happened, words that came directly from someone who knew the girl that was killed:
"Mi novia fue asesinada alli el lunes por la noche. En la habitacion 404. No la revisaron durante 15 horas. Estuve alli con su madre durante 13 horas rogandoles que abrieran la puerta why se negaron. Fue drogada, robada why dada por muerta. La administracion no hizo nada. Nos dijeron que revisaron la habitacion why que no habia nadie. Ella estaba alli muriendo. ".
Were you the one who wrote this? I assumed that when the person who wrote this referred to your friend as "mi novia" that it was probably just a close girlfriend of hers. But maybe these are your words? Also, does her last name begin with "Chis" or "de Chis"? (That is what another girl from Adelitas is telling me.).
Yes, this was copied and pasted from a message I sent to one of the girls on day 1. At that point they told us it was an OD, and my girlfriend had never tried a single drug in her life. So I assumed she had been drugged. It wasn't until 7 days later that officials told us how she died. It was violent and is being investigated as a homocide..Thank you.
Regias Voice
02-06-22, 08:47
This occupational hazard isn't exclusive to just HK and has been a part of the world oldest profession. Who truly knows what happened in the room and if it was intentional or an accident. HK is and has been the biggest draw in Tijuana so things sadly won't change. "Accidents" intentional or not happen all of the time in this hobby.HK is supposed to have safety protocols in place. The organization and security failed on every level here.
ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 08:50
It meant her $100 price tag included the same service as a $20 dollar street girl.When I first started going to Tijuana in 2004, going rates for Adelitas bar girls compared to street girls was around 700 pesos to 200 pesos.
But for them to be comparable experiences, you had to be a reasonably skilled street girl negotiator.
Yet you still got only around half as much room time with street girls in SG hotels, compared to the bar girls.
I think that year the exchange rate hung close to 11:1.
Regias Voice
02-06-22, 08:50
Amor,
I am surprised I have not read any news from local press about this murder. They usually like to do detailed reports on putas, mongers, sex, drugs, money, murder ect. They sell papers.
Don't worry. HK / Cascada have a large security system with lots of people and equipment, lots of high-res cameras everywhere, plus intels from the meseros, chicas and workers. They have a lot more info about and know more about guys in their club than you think, more than enough to help lead the hapless policias to make quick arrest.I spoke with a journalist in Tijuana today and none of this is on any radars yet. I aim to change that.
Agreed, but the who knows how likely they will be to cooperate.
Regias Voice
02-06-22, 08:54
It will be difficult to prove murder. The mother should consider suing HK / Cascadas for Employer Negligence. You should pass it on.
The Catholic church did shit for decades. Until they got their ass kicked by civil suits. Welcome to American justice. Just saying.If you think American justice is slow. Trust me if there is a possibility of a civil suit under these circumstances in Mexico (independent contrctors an questionable labor laws) it will be pursued. If only to "inspire" these clubs to tighten up.
ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 09:02
That's the thing about me, I have a tough time approaching a girl sitting by herself looking bored. Always makes me think she doesn't want to be there and I don't know how to spark the conversation.I have lived nearly my whole life in Southern California.
I had a reasonably good success rate as a single in SoCal when asking girls if they wanted a drink.
Man my success rate shot up to practically 100% when I started asking zona chicas.
Go for it.
I don't know how to spark the conversation.Learning some Spanish would help.
Explorer8939
02-06-22, 13:07
Got to watch that. I've caught places taking dollars and "whoops" missing 5% of the conversion when the change comes.
HK is big for this "Give me change" and whoops. $1 missing in the "conversion" of $20 to Pesos at the wall posted rate.Always pay in pesos.
Regias Voice
02-06-22, 16:57
Wow, very sorry to hear all of this. If I was the mother I might've called the police a couple hours into that 12 hour wait though I suppose with the way things work in Mexico with the ability to bribe police and other first responders that may not have done much good anyway.
Can I ask you another question? A girl I know at HK forwarded me the following explanation of what happened, words that came directly from someone who knew the girl that was killed:
"Mi novia fue asesinada alli el lunes por la noche. En la habitacion 404. No la revisaron durante 15 horas. Estuve alli con su madre durante 13 horas rogandoles que abrieran la puerta why se negaron. Fue drogada, robada why dada por muerta. La administracion no hizo nada. Nos dijeron que revisaron la habitacion why que no habia nadie. Ella estaba alli muriendo. ".
Were you the one who wrote this? I assumed that when the person who wrote this referred to your friend as "mi novia" that it was probably just a close girlfriend of hers. But maybe these are your words? Also, does her last name begin with "Chis" or "de Chis"? (That is what another girl from Adelitas is telling me.).
What I can tell you is that the picture of the girl from Facebook was included, via text message, in the same explanation I received (in Spanish above) about the killing. So that is a rumor that is being spread around widely that the girl from Facebook is the girl who passed in room 404. Given that, it might be worth clarifying the real identity of the girl in 404..I did not upload my original response properly.
Can't report a person missing in Mexico for 72 hours. She tried.
Yes, I am the one who wrote this. It was copied and pasted from a message I sent to one of the girls on day 1. At that point they told us it was an OD, and my girlfriend had never tried a single drug in her life. She was terrified of drugs. So I assume she had been drugged. It wasn't till seven days later that officials told us how she died. It was violent and is being investigated as a homicide.
Near as I can tell, the Facebook link is another girl who died in Hong Kong last week. I don't have any first hand knowledge of it though.
It is certain that my girlfriend checked into 404, and that's where she was found dead. Her last name does not start with CHIS, or even see for that matter, but she will remain anonymous on this page beyond sharing her work names Caro and recently Regia. She is not the girl on the Facebook link. My messages have already been copied and pasted and used for gossip which made their way to her friends and family via a social media influencer page.
We are not certain it was murder, but it is certainly being investigated as a homicide.
We as customers definitely have some power here, in the form of the almighty dollar. I'm still too raw to formulate how we might advocate for these girls and their safety. For now, it's almost all I think about. Because I don't know how to build a time machine and save her.
I used to love Hong Kong, it is another dimension. Sadly for me it is now a haunted dimension.
That's the thing about me, I have a tough time approaching a girl sitting by herself looking bored. Always makes me think she doesn't want to be there and I don't know how to spark the conversation.Would have to agree with the dejected looking girls. Have had the best times with these. What's hard for me is if the girl you want is with a couple other girl friends. How to talk to her a bit with out buying a beer but to see if there is any chemistry and not look like a fool. That I have not figured out yet. Maybe some of the bro's have some tips with this senario?
There are a few basic sentences you can say and while you don't need to have a full "conversation" you can learn enough to see how her personality is a bit. And that's really all you need.
Just learning how to say.
Where are you from.
What is your name.
How long in Tijuana etc.
The other thing you don't know. Is how much English she knows. I have been amazed as some girls who just from Youtube. American movies. Music. Their English is good enough to have an actual conversation.
She can help you learn a little Spanish if you learn to say. "What is the Spanish word for". And point to anything.
While it can be combersome. If your phone works. If you buy her a drink pull up google translate and type in a few basic questions one at a time to ask her. Most girls are good with it and when they communicate back you can repeat what they say to see if she thinks you say it ok.
I always joke with them and say something about you can be my Spanish teacher.
I probably only know 30 words of Spanish but it does go a long way.
G.
BrotherMouzone
02-06-22, 18:06
Got to watch that. I've caught places taking dollars and "whoops" missing 5% of the conversion when the change comes.
HK is big for this "Give me change" and whoops. $1 missing in the "conversion" of $20 to Pesos at the wall posted rate.LOL, sometimes they'll try to get you for more than just the conversion rate. Only had it happen once but at HK I once tried to use a 500 peso bill ($25) to pay for an 80 peso ($4) beer. The bartender gives me peso bills amounting to just a few bucks in change and walks off. After standing there confused for 10-15 seconds trying to process what happened I walked back to the bartender, who I'd noticed out of the corner of my eye was staring at me trying to see whether I was able to figure out he'd given me the wrong change. He tried to play dumb when I asked him about the change but he eventually gave me the correct amount. Will say that's the only time something like that has happened in all my years going down to Zona Norte (though I usually pay in dollars not pesos) but my advice would be to be careful using pesos though if you do use pesos, use the lowest denomination of bills you have, not the 500 peso bill I used.
BrotherMouzone
02-06-22, 18:21
If you think American justice is slow. Trust me if there is a possibility of a civil suit under these circumstances in Mexico (independent contrctors an questionable labor laws) it will be pursued. If only to "inspire" these clubs to tighten up.My understanding is civil suits aren't nearly as effective in Mexico as they often are in the United States. Compensation / restitution for wrongful death is ridiculously low compared to what we have here and the court systems are much, much slower which would be just some of the reasons Mexicans tend not to go this route.
BrotherMouzone
02-06-22, 18:46
Yes, this was copied and pasted from a message I sent to one of the girls on day 1. At that point they told us it was an OD, and my girlfriend had never tried a single drug in her life. So I assumed she had been drugged. It wasn't until 7 days later that officials told us how she died. It was violent and is being investigated as a homocide.Wow, OK thanks for clarifying. Yes, I could tell that message that my friend from HK forwarded me was copied and pasted from somewhere else. But as I mentioned in a previous post, also included within the same message I was sent (that you wrote) was a picture of that Abigayl Chan girl from Facebook. So it's a rumor being spread pretty widely I think at this point that that girl from Facebook is the one who passed away in room 404. My thought is that both for the benefit of your friend and this girl from Facebook that you (or someone else close to them) should consider putting the true identity of the girl who passed out there. So both of their memories can be honored correctly and appropriately. But that is just an opinion, obviously something like that is up to those closer to her like her family. But right now, your girlfriend is being remembered by many with a picture of a girl that isn't even her... am thinking that's disrespectful and not fair at all to her or to the girl in the picture.
Can I ask if you are a gringo from the States who developed a relationship with this girl after meeting her in the clubs or are you Mexican / Mexican-American?
My understanding is civil suits aren't nearly as effective in Mexico as they often are in the United States. Compensation / restitution for wrongful death is ridiculously low compared to what we have here and the court systems are much, much slower which would be just some of the reasons Mexicans tend not to go this route.We have a much more robust insurance system and a cottage industry around collections, plus all the financial instruments etc to to enforce those judgement. It's still a pain in the ass, but not the longshot that it is in some places.
HK is supposed to have safety protocols in place. The organization and security failed on every level here.See this is the type of comment that will eventually get Zona Norte shut down. The conservatives or if someone wants to develop Zona Norte into condos will use this excuse. But Crime happens in every bedroom in every town everyday in every country. Not just Hong Kong bedrooms. I can tell you for certain more people get killed in church or schools than in brothels every year. Men have a tendency to be violent. Drunk men, in some cases have a tendency to be violent. This has nothing to do with HK.
See this is the type of comment that will eventually get Zona Norte shut down. The conservatives or if someone wants to develop Zona Norte into condos will use this excuse. But Crime happens in every bedroom in every town everyday in every country. Not just Hong Kong bedrooms. I can tell you for certain more people get killed in church or schools than in brothels every year. Men have a tendency to be violent. Drunk men, in some cases have a tendency to be violent. This has nothing to do with HK.The bar can only do so much. Not only that just think of the industry in general that we help. Human trafficking, drug, etc. I'm sure most guys that pay a girl think that they are just helping to feed her or a baby and it's a mutual transaction. The sad thing is that most of the time it's not but we are blinded by that and especially in Tijuana we're we get numb to everything. The last visit I was in the parking lot and some girl was yelling and crying about not getting her money and going crazy. The sad thing is that myself or anyone else did anything. Just figured it was some drugged out crazy girl. But if this was my hometown she would of gotten a bunch of people to help her. The Zona just numbs us to all of this unfortunately.
LuvMexicanas
02-07-22, 04:22
We have a much more robust insurance system and a cottage industry around collections, plus all the financial instruments etc to to enforce those judgement. It's still a pain in the ass, but not the longshot that it is in some places.A judgment isn't worth the paper it's printed on if a defendant is judgment proof. Just like Rocky said, "sue me for what"?
LuvMexicanas
02-07-22, 04:37
Is what you're doing when playing in or working in the Zona. Alcohol, drugs, hookers and vice will attract a criminal element and the dregs of society so should anyone be surprised that bad shit goes down? Only the nave or stupid. Is it unfortunate when people are harmed? Of course, but I go back to the title of this report.
BlackThought
02-07-22, 04:40
Has anyone sessioned with her? She works at HK club based on her instagram.
Cocr Brotheler
02-07-22, 18:01
Is what you're doing when playing in or working in the Zona. Alcohol, drugs, hookers and vice will attract a criminal element and the dregs of society so should anyone be surprised that bad shit goes down? Only the nave or stupid. Is it unfortunate when people are harmed? Of course, but I go back to the title of this report.Yes but can greatly mitigate the risks if limit drug and alcohol usage and avoid best as possible those that do and "play" in a so called "safe house" which apparently Cascadas is not. Prior to this I felt safe in Cascadas and usually limited my activities to daytime / early evening before the druggers got too wound up.
I've been thinking about why so long for them to disclose what happened 12 hours or so after? Was it so bad in the room they had to do extra thorough job cleaning and / or their "CSI" had to process the scene and not able to soon thereafter? Ew so close to us.
Would anyone knowing this truthfully ever want to stay in room 404? They should just block it off and place a wall over the door IMO.
Cocr Brotheler
02-07-22, 18:07
Cocr.
Fourth floor is the girls' dormitory. HK puts them up 2 in a room. But they will send ST guys there when they run out of ST rooms on 2nd and 3rd floors.
But don't worry. Whatever floor you are on, the bloody girl with her throat slit will find you.
Was it a short term room?Ew Captain Ew! You scaring me!
LuvMexicanas
02-07-22, 18:30
Yes but can greatly mitigate the risks if limit drug and alcohol usage and avoid best as possible those that do and "play" in a so called "safe house" which apparently Cascadas is not. Prior to this I felt safe in Cascadas and usually limited my activities to daytime / early evening before the druggers got too wound up.
I've been thinking about why so long for them to disclose what happened 12 hours or so after? Was it so bad in the room they had to do extra thorough job cleaning and / or their "CSI" had to process the scene and not able to soon thereafter? Ew so close to us.
Would anyone knowing this truthfully ever want to stay in room 404? They should just block it off and place a wall over the door IMO.I would stay in the room without a second's hesitation. However, I rarely stay in Cascadas because it's hard to sleep with the sound of heels click clacking in the hallways all night.
If you think American justice is slow. Trust me if there is a possibility of a civil suit under these circumstances in Mexico (independent contrctors an questionable labor laws) it will be pursued. If only to "inspire" these clubs to tighten up.There are plaintiff firms. And there are defense firms. Pick a plaintiff firm. A large one with resources. Just my 2 cents.
Captain Solo
02-07-22, 22:37
HK is having Valentine Party this Wed Feb 9, starting 8 PM. Many hot new girls recently. They will swirl around in their frilly lingeries, feel romantic and amorous on this special day. Have to check it out.
This week found a very beautiful girl with blonde hair by the name Diabla, pretty face, with her beautiful natural body, conical boobs, long sexy legs, lots of sexy shapes and curves, everything about her is perfect and sexy. Many others I temporarily forget names.
Will party with a couple bros. Any bro will be there?
BlackThought
02-07-22, 22:57
Yes but can greatly mitigate the risks if limit drug and alcohol usage and avoid best as possible those that do and "play" in a so called "safe house" which apparently Cascadas is not. Prior to this I felt safe in Cascadas and usually limited my activities to daytime / early evening before the druggers got too wound up.
I've been thinking about why so long for them to disclose what happened 12 hours or so after? Was it so bad in the room they had to do extra thorough job cleaning and / or their "CSI" had to process the scene and not able to soon thereafter? Ew so close to us.
Would anyone knowing this truthfully ever want to stay in room 404? They should just block it off and place a wall over the door IMO.I sure as hell will ask for a diff room if they place me in room 404.
BrotherMouzone
02-08-22, 08:24
We as customers definitely have some power here, in the form of the almighty dollar. I'm still too raw to formulate how we might advocate for these girls and their safety. For now, it's almost all I think about. Because I don't know how to build a time machine and save her.
Well, first step would be awareness. I really think the overwhelming majority of people who go down to these clubs have no idea how frequent bar girls are the victims of violence in the hotels attached to these clubs (and that's not to say that it happens all that frequently. But it definitely occurs way more than it should). I've been going to Zona Norte on and off approaching 10 years now (on average only about twice a year from the East Coast) and had no idea about incidents like this until the high-profile incident with the ex-Rutgers basketball player around this time last year at Adelitas. (That incident is the reason why they've added metal detector searches to many of the Zona Norte clubs.) But yeah, if you were willing to go to Tijuana and / or San Diego media about this, it might go some ways towards awareness. But then again, if we're being completely honest, not everyone will be sympathetic to the plight of you and your girlfriend given where you met her and the nature of her work.
Things were quiet Monday night in HK. Its possible I have been going more on Tuesday between the two. I felt like Tuesdays have been crowded in HK. But Monday there was not a lot of guys. If you count Chavelas, there was probably 1 guy per girl. I walked around and sat in 6 seats between the two bars. No girls said Hello,. I bounced to 4 other bars to find reliable girls from past. Found one In tropical but she was having a drink with a guy. I waited 25 minutes moved on. Playboy club had 4 girls but you get no opportunity to talk to them before buying a drink. Couldn't find the reliable girl I met 3 weeks ago in Hong Kong sister club, hotel Korea. I think I had 6 beers tonight and tipped maybe 3 dollars on girls. I had 200 in my wallet. Even spoke to 7 street girls as I had a hotel to take a shower after which I need for those dirty bedspreads. Could not find a enthusiastic girl all night. These woman should take a class on how to turn a guy on. The lesbian waitress at the playboy club is the only one I usually meet who has any clue. Even the massage place on revolucion which is 20 on most weekdays wanted 30.
Well, first step would be awareness. I really think the overwhelming majority of people who go down to these clubs have no idea how frequent bar girls are the victims of violence in the hotels attached to these clubs (and that's not to say that it happens all that frequently. But it definitely occurs way more than it should). I've been going to Zona Norte on and off approaching 10 years now (on average only about twice a year from the East Coast) and had no idea about incidents like this until the high-profile incident with the ex-Rutgers basketball player around this time last year at Adelitas. (That incident is the reason why they've added metal detector searches to many of the Zona Norte clubs.) But yeah, if you were willing to go to Tijuana and / or San Diego media about this, it might go some ways towards awareness. But then again, if we're being completely honest, not everyone will be sympathetic to the plight of you and your girlfriend given where you met her and the nature of her work.Imagine most mongers could care less. They travel all over the world to get the most bang for their buck. I doubt these acts stop them from soliciting prostitutes that have pimps or establishments that may possibly withhold the ladies' passports until they pay back their debts. Hopefully most in the Zona are working at their free will rather than forced by pimps and families. It is the harsh reality of this hobby and most are thinking with small brain rather than with conscience.
Imagine most mongers could care less. They travel all over the world to get the most bang for their buck. I doubt these acts stop them from soliciting prostitutes that have pimps or establishments that may possibly withhold the ladies' passports until they pay back their debts. Hopefully most in the Zona are working at their free will rather than forced by pimps and families. It is the harsh reality of this hobby and most are thinking with small brain rather than with conscience.You guys ever look at tik tik or only fans? Every girl wants to be a little ****. You are making it out as if these girls in hk are working some slave labor job. Everyone I got to know personally has house or houses owned in Mexico and some even in USA. 99% of HK girls wouldn't last a week in a USA strip club with all the work involved dancing giving lap dances, guys ducking their tits, and free conversation with the guys. They would go running back to HK and its robotic non contact sex. Street girls who only take their pants off, and if they are paid to take everything off you still can't be touching or sweating in them or playing with their tits. Who invented this anyway? Seriously who came up with this, technically sex, but practically not sex process? And what about the 3 to 5 thousand working girls in nyc and every other city and town? And the working girls in USA legal brothels in Nevada. These girls are getting rich by Mexico's standards. Remember wherever they goblove the cost for things is much cheaper than Tijuana which for myself, has become more expensive the san Diego for the food I eat, and hotels are about equal if you compare the quality of the hotel equally.
Buckster23
02-09-22, 02:22
I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.
The girl explained the following points.
1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.
2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.
3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.
Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.
1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?
2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?
3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).
4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.
Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?
Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.
I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.
The girl explained the following points.
1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.
2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.
3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.
Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.
1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?
2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?5. Get an escort for a Toda La Noche at your Ticuan room, and avoid the HK bullshit alltogether.
If you must have an HK girl for TLN, then catch her at the end of her shift, and after an hour, if the meseros come knocking, pay her for 1 session, and then send her packing. She knows when her shift is over, and she'll either square it away or, she's in on whatever scam they are running right now.
There's way too much good ass to be bought in Tijuana right now for you to put up with shit, if you're willing to drop the money on a TLN.
I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.
The girl explained the following points.
1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.
2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.
3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.
Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.
1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?
2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?
3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).
4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.
Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?
Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.Tell her to come up after her shift then tell the waiter to F Off.
Baxter Slade
02-09-22, 05:23
I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.
The girl explained the following points.
1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.
2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.
3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.
Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.
1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?
2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?
3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).With the new crackdown (was more lax before) best solution is arrange it during her off time. Also a great idea to get a nice room outside the zona. The girl will appreciate that.
Buckster23
02-09-22, 06:02
Tell her to come up after her shift then tell the waiter to F Off.Apparently she claims they take it out on the girl. Like if I told him to F off and she stayed. He would track how many hours she was out. Times the drinks cost. Then they'd charge her that amount effectively negating whatever I give her.
See this is the type of comment that will eventually get Zona Norte shut down. The conservatives or if someone wants to develop Zona Norte into condos will use this excuse. But Crime happens in every bedroom in every town everyday in every country. Not just Hong Kong bedrooms. I can tell you for certain more people get killed in church or schools than in brothels every year. Men have a tendency to be violent. Drunk men, in some cases have a tendency to be violent. This has nothing to do with HK.In terms of the homicide who knows what actually happened but lets say some crazy dude killed the girl. In no way could I see where the hotel would be responsible. Lets say they require ID's. Like some guy isn't just going to get a fake ID. How long it takes to kill someone? Like security could have done anything if they went around doing bedroom checks every 15 minutes? It's just absurd. There is a saying that goes "One of the hardest things in life is determining what you are and are not responsible for". This one is a no-brainer.
Now. How about the Las Vegas hotel during that country concert that the guy had time to barricade himself in the room. Some crazy guy could have pulled it off in probably one day but I bet now housekeeping needs to get into every room every day. It's Ludacris.
Just my. 02 worth.
G.
Captain Solo
02-09-22, 08:35
2 weeks ago a wingman stayed with a HK girl for 4 hours, nobody knocks. I checked on him at about 1 AM. He was still trying to screw the girl.
I know girls who went out to dinner with guys for a few hours, no mention of any penalty by the bar.
I think girls likely pull stupid club rules on new guys to make more money. Their mesero BFs would be just so happy to help.
BrotherMouzone
02-09-22, 18:26
I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.
The girl explained the following points.
1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.
2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.
3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.
Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.
1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?
2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?
3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).
4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.
Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?
Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.If you're staying at Cascadas, best thing to do is to probably get her off shift (end of her shift or some other time). Don't know if you're aware but there have been a couple deaths of HK girls within the past couple of weeks, one or both of them being murdered by customers in Cascadas. I'd assume that's led to stricter enforcement of rules which might explain what happened to you here. Also possible the girl was using her explanation as an excuse to either not spend the night or for you to have to shell out more dough.
BrotherMouzone
02-09-22, 18:42
In terms of the homicide who knows what actually happened but lets say some crazy dude killed the girl. In no way could I see where the hotel would be responsible. Lets say they require ID's. Like some guy isn't just going to get a fake ID. How long it takes to kill someone? Like security could have done anything if they went around doing bedroom checks every 15 minutes? It's just absurd. There is a saying that goes "One of the hardest things in life is determining what you are and are not responsible for". This one is a no-brainer.
I'm thinking murders at those clubs tend to be spontaneous / impulsive, not pre-planned. Given that, IDs I think are a decent preventative measure (better than nothing at least). If a guy knows his ID is on file or at least has been checked, he'll nearly always think twice about committing any act of violence. Requiring IDs won't prevent ALL violence obviously (don't think it would've stopped that ex-Rutgers basketball player last year for example from murdering that girl at Adelitas) but I do think it would be at least somewhat effective.
Now. How about the Las Vegas hotel during that country concert that the guy had time to barricade himself in the room. Some crazy guy could have pulled it off in probably one day but I bet now housekeeping needs to get into every room every day. It's Ludacris.
Yeah, the consequences of that incident irked me. I stayed in Vegas (Caesars) several months after this happened. Back then if you went even a day without housekeeping, security would knock on your door the next day and do a quick "welfare check" of your room to make sure everything was OK LOL. That was extremely annoying as I'm the type who nearly always declines housekeeping service. But since COVID they've done away with that and most Vegas hotels (and probably hotels across the country) have decreased housekeeping service (largely due to COVID concerns).
AmorPorFavor
02-09-22, 19:31
Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.
Cocr Brotheler
02-09-22, 19:33
Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.Me three and I do care (more).
Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??
Captain Solo
02-09-22, 20:06
It would prevent no crimes and would cause a quick death of the ST rooms, Cascada and HK.
HK has you recorded by many HD security cameras in the club and in the hotel. Isn't that deterrence enough?
If you are well-known and well-loved by HK and its workers, no IDs are ever needed for any transaction. An ISG call sign will do!
Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.Hong Kong and its hotel is a brothel. I don't think they should be taking any identification. Its just the type of stuff that can ruin your life and career one day. Sure the older guys who aren't getting married again and are retired don't care. But some guys go in their early 20's. Visiting a brothel is the perfect amo for cancel culture. They should just take a quick photo without mask. In fact every store, train bus in USA should require a photo without mask to enter due to the theft issues as theft is now legal In half the states.
I was at HK on Monday, took a girl up for a TLN but she must have been in the middle of her shift because the meseros started knocking after two hours. I would love to catch a girl at the end of her shift for a TLN but don't they check the girls IDs when they walk past the lobby at Cascadas?
Whatever the case, with increased room rates and increased control on the way the girls spend their time, it's clear to me the management at HK is starting to take full advantage of the near monopoly they have in the Zona.
AmorPorFavor
02-09-22, 23:52
Me three and I do care (more).
Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??If it was cartel related they could have killed her anywhere. They probably would not do it at HK.
BrotherMouzone
02-10-22, 00:14
Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??The boyfriend of hers who was posting here recently posted a couple of days ago that she was "terrified of drugs". He came off as very credible to me so, based on that comment, I'd tend to believe this wasn't drug related. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion that she (per her boyfriend) texted her mother the room number and length of her sex work sessions as they occurred. Even as someone who frequents these places myself, if I were her parent I'd under no circumstances take that sort of role in my kid's sex work, though I understand it was intended to serve as some sort of security measure.
Regias Voice
02-10-22, 00:52
Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.This would be simple to implement and really no big imposition on clients. There needs to be some level of accountability.
Regias Voice
02-10-22, 01:03
The boyfriend of hers who was posting here recently posted a couple of days ago that she was "terrified of drugs". He came off as very credible to me so, based on that comment, I'd tend to believe this wasn't drug related. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion that she (per her boyfriend) texted her mother the room number and length of her sex work sessions as they occurred. Even as someone who frequents these places myself, if I were her parent I'd under no circumstances take that sort of role in my kid's sex work, though I understand it was intended to serve as some sort of security measure.Definitely not involved with drugs sales or usage. She was openly condescending to that world.
It's truly a tragic story given the outcome. Her mother went to work in the clubs when the alcoholic father died. She saw her mother go out and "save" the family. This became the obvious "shortcut" to success. Mom did it so can I. Her mother will have to bear that burden for the rest of her life. Do I blame the mother for her life choices? No. Am I resentful as hell? Yes.
It's also how she learned to never depend on a man. Broke my heart to hear her say things like "you can't eat love".
LuvMexicanas
02-10-22, 01:06
I just creampied a Hong Kong chica in my Centro hotel room who is working tonight so assuming there are 100 chicas working tonight, you have a 1% chance of diving into something you wish you hadn't should you elect to dine at the Ybox.
I just creampied a Hong Kong chica in my Centro hotel room who is working tonight so assuming there are 100 chicas working tonight, you have a 1% chance of diving into something you wish you hadn't should you elect to dine at the Ybox.This belongs in the FOOD section.
LuvMexicanas
02-10-22, 05:13
This belongs in the FOOD section.Hot beef injection with extra mayo.
This would be simple to implement and really no big imposition on clients. There needs to be some level of accountability.Think the ID idea is a waste of time. Now if they want to put some type of panic button in the rooms. That has some potential advantages. I think they do this in some Europe brothels if I remember right.
G.
StudBucket
02-10-22, 18:31
Anybody going to be at HK on Friday Night? I am going solo as my wingmen want to stay in LA for Superbowl. Wondering also if the talent or ratio of girls to guys should still be okay?
Thanks.
SB.
BrotherMouzone
02-10-22, 18:55
Hong Kong and its hotel is a brothel. I don't think they should be taking any identification. Its just the type of stuff that can ruin your life and career one day. Sure the older guys who aren't getting married again and are retired don't care. But some guys go in their early 20's. Visiting a brothel is the perfect amo for cancel culture. Your point is more than fair. Privacy is important for many HK / Cascadas customers. Requiring IDs would be a deterrent for crime, but could also be a deterrent for many to patronize these places in the first place if it means a brothel will have their personal information on file. There are several big spending customers in particular who probably fall into that group. So I see your point and think it's a large part of the reason these clubs would probably never even consider requiring IDs (unless mandated by law).
Me personally, I'd be willing to sacrifice a little bit of privacy (though I think it's highly unlikely these clubs would ever intentionally or inadvertently release personal information to the public anyway) and allow the clubs to photocopy my ID if it meant possibly saving the lives of several chicas. But do understand that for many privacy would be a significant concern here.
Regias Voice
02-11-22, 02:29
Your point is more than fair. Privacy is important for many HK / Cascadas customers. Requiring IDs would be a deterrent for crime, but could also be a deterrent for many to patronize these places in the first place if it means a brothel will have their personal information on file. There are several big spending customers in particular who probably fall into that group. So I see your point and think it's a large part of the reason these clubs would probably never even consider requiring IDs (unless mandated by law).
Me personally, I'd be willing to sacrifice a little bit of privacy (though I think it's highly unlikely these clubs would ever intentionally or inadvertently release personal information to the public anyway) and allow the clubs to photocopy my ID if it meant possibly saving the lives of several chicas. But do understand that for many privacy would be a significant concern here.Even if providing ID for short term rooms proved to "invasive"' the club could easily ensure that clients are not leaving the room solo w / o checking on the welfare of the girl. For booked rooms ID is already required.
Captain Solo
02-11-22, 07:30
Was in HK for the Valentine party Wednesday night. Over a hundred girls were partying, many new hot girls, looking youthful and classy, non stop lesbian and strip show, very exciting, fun and sexy.
You don't want to watch the game at home when a hundred hot girls want to party with you.
Captain Solo
02-11-22, 08:33
Got to Tijuana about 6 with 3 wingmen. Went to Mriscos Llamos for raw oyster and beers. Got in HK, found an empty at the corner near the main stage as a base for wingmen to regroup. HK had over a hundred girls working, a few new, hot, young stunners, but talent level overall was not so hot on a week night.
HK interprets valentine not as boy-girl but but a girl-girl affair. They staged a couple elaborate lesbian shows on the main stage, a threesome then a pair in a four-post bed with frilly white silk. Hot girls were eating each other out while workers were blowing glitters from and guys raining porpinas from the balcony down on the fog-filled dtage. In between were strip shows with hot girls, the noisy, freaky free tequila show and parades of a dozen girls on stage. It was entertaining and exciting to drink to.
A wingmen did nto have any oyster so was hungry. He bought a couple rounds of food and drinks. I was stuffed with steak and pizza. Finger food was OK but Azul's rib eye was way tougher than average, even cut up in the kitchen, it was messy and difficult to eat in the dark club. For steak I would suggest the bros to go to Azul to eat it properly. There was half a pizza and a fruit plate left. I gave it to Felix at the front desk so he could eat it with the meseros.
Lots of hot new girls along with regulars were working. Quite a few hit on us for drinks and sex, but I was full and was just happy to sit back, enjoying the beauty of the girls and watching the strip show. The wingman bought a ficha for a very attractive girl, a mixed drink that cost him $29. For the next drink he bought her a $10 beer. She said she was a nurse from Guadalajara, a very nice, clean, pretty, sociable girl. The wingman probably had too much food, so he was just drinking with her but did not take her to the hotel. There are quite a few semipros working short stints in HK. You can usually tell by their conservative manners and appearances, different from the garish hardened putas.
A wingman is a young guy in his mid 20's. He likes more mature girls with fuller bodies, bought drinks for a couple older and chubbier girls, looking like bored housewives, took 2 to the hotel. He got his wishes. We all like different types of women who can turn us on sexually.
A wingman was trying to raise his 2 HK Gfs with their long BB sessions, but they did not show. They both want to claim him as exclusive customer and got jealous, gave him shit. He went to Chicago, bagged a hot girl, took selfies with her showing her huge boobs, too big and too fake for my taste. He said a ficha in Chicago would last 15-20 minutes, compared to 5-10 minutes in HK. He got his wishes and had his fun.
I was waiting and looking for a few specific hot girls but they did not show. I just don't feel like sitting and talking with girls with whom I have no personal connections and cannot really talk to. It's just too much work to try to communicate with them over stupid mundane subjects. I would get bored quickly with their stupid small talks, and pics of their children and dogs hehe. I am not lonely and desperate for companies with just any girl. I should bill them $500 an hour for consultation.
But on the way to the car to go home, I found a pretty spinner, Tiffany at hotel Mini, with her fresh, pretty face, youthful, beautiful, all natural body, nice, fresh GND type, exactly what I prefer. Got very aroused with her fresh, natural beauty and congenial manners. Had a very hot session with her and looking to repeat.
Definitely not involved with drugs sales or usage. She was openly condescending to that world.
It's truly a tragic story given the outcome. Her mother went to work in the clubs when the alcoholic father died. She saw her mother go out and "save" the family. This became the obvious "shortcut" to success. Mom did it so can I. Her mother will have to bear that burden for the rest of her life. Do I blame the mother for her life choices? No. Am I resentful as hell? Yes.
It's also how she learned to never depend on a man. Broke my heart to hear her say things like "you can't eat love".Thanks for sharing your experience! It is a truly tragic situation and hard to deal with especially when they are influenced by a loved one. Sometimes shortcuts to success don't correlate to one's well being. I like the suggestion of one bro recommending a welfare check after a session. It would be more difficult if anything over an hour was negotiated, but then again everything is at each parties risk tolerance. Stay safe!
I vote for a panic button. Or the alternative, a cheaper police-whistle called the Jackie whistle if HK is too damn cheap.
I don't like the ID copy because I have already given HK 2 fake IDs for my VIP cards and I really don't want to buy another fake ID, because they may ask me why I have 3 fakes IDs on file.I'm wondering where they would place such a button. Even a whistle wouldn't do much if you're being choked out. Sorry for being negative, but really difficult to stop people from doing what they are going to do unless a full blown background / DNA check was conducted, which would eliminate most just going for a good time. Also if yo7 did use fake IDs, then most likely wouldn't matter checking IDs either since they aren't verified.
Rainman306
02-13-22, 04:43
Had another trip with no sessions at HK. The Club definitely has the best talent, but they shove 6's or 7's onto you for the fishas when an 8 or 9 is lying in wait.
Even when you do gt to sit with an 8 or 9 then there is a better 8 or 9+ that catches your eye so you hold off doing a session. Even if you've got the 9. 5 she will be a bit reserved by Mexico *****house standards and you'll look back at the 8 that was much more sultry.
I've just never really found the right groove to do many sessions with HK girls.
BlackThought
02-13-22, 05:13
404 was a normal overnight reservation the the night she was killed. If it was short term they would have found her right away (although it bears repeating that management said the room was empty hours after she went up there and hours before the coroners pulled her out of there) Management states they "do not need ID if room is paid in cash, only a name". That seems absurd to me. I've always used a card so.
I don't have any frame of reference.
Does anybody have an experience not needing to provide ID to book a room here?I've had to provide ID to book a room, but that might be because I have the VIP card and they need to make sure I'm not using someone else's VIP card for the discounted rate.
BlackThought
02-13-22, 05:24
Had another trip with no sessions at HK. The Club definitely has the best talent, but they shove 6's or 7's onto you for the fishas when an 8 or 9 is lying in wait.
Even when you do gt to sit with an 8 or 9 then there is a better 8 or 9+ that catches your eye so you hold off doing a session. Even if you've got the 9. 5 she will be a bit reserved by Mexico *****house standards and you'll look back at the 8 that was much more sultry.
I've just never really found the right groove to do many sessions with HK girls.Hahah, I wanted to take an 8 that was dancing on stage cause she was receptive and playful when I tipped. Then a chica sat next to me and I was going to tell her I wasn't interested, but she was an 8 too so ended up taking her arriba. Went back down to look for the 8 that I saw on stage and she was gone. Too many hot girls in HK, a great problem to have!
StudBucket
02-14-22, 06:17
Hello There,
I just got back from a 2 night stay at Cascadas which is the hotel owned and ran by Hong Kong. I parked in the lot by Jack in the Box in San Ysidro. The walk across was a breeze at 6 pm on a Friday, and there was no wait. The Mexican border agent just asked to look at my passport, and did not ask any other questions, and she did not have me fill out an FMM card which was a first for me as they did before.They do scan your luggage going into Tijuana with the same style machines used at airports so be careful not to bring anything that could be confiscated.
I walked over to the little wait room / facility to catch the Hong Kong limo which is about 2 short blocks from where you exit the turnstyle at the border exit point. You may ask a taxi driver or shop vendor if you are not sure where it is located and they will show you how to find it. I was not in a big hurry to check in as time was still early for the night, so I did have to wait about 20 minutes for the courtesy Hong Kong limo to show up and pick several of us mongers. I did end up tipping the driver a couple of bucks, as did the other riders, but the ride is less than a few minutes. If you arrive late, then taking a taxi would certainly save the 10-20 minute wait.
I had a master suite, which was a larger room than the standard room, and comes with a jacuzzi but standard rooms are fine for most. I did get a chance by the way to walk across the sister property, Hotel Rizo de Oro, but found that the rooms are similar quality as HK but the decor is slightly different, still very nice and updated. So, this is a good option if you cannot get a room at Hong Kong and it is situated right across the street so the girls can just walk across with you. I walked across the street to the mini mart and purchased water, drinks, etc. as the in room beverages are expensive.
Friday night at Hong Kong was jumping, and I actually thought there was a little more talent selection and a few more options than on Saturday night. The ratio of girls to guys was really good, so girls were eager to do arribas. As usual, the meseros (waiters) were very pushy, so if they see you sit down with a girl all the waiters in that area will hound you to buy drinks. The minute your girl finishes her drink also you will need to buy her a drink or she will stand up and leave. I was told by several girls that management is pushing them to sell drinks, and they must sell 100 fichas / drink tickets in a week, or they will pay 100 dollars. The ladies drinks were at 10 dollars for the most part. I did not care for the pushiness and did not feel like I could go less than 2 minutes without a waiter, souvenir seller, snack seller coming over asking me to buy something. This was so annoying. The girls were asking between 80-100 dollars, and some wanted 30 minute time limits. I ended up taking a nice one back on Friday night, and then called it a night around 1 am.
I woke up Saturday, and ended up going to breakfast at the restaurant at Hotel Rizo de Oro and had an excellent Grand Slam breakfast for about 9 dollars; strongly recommend it. Just out of curiosity, I strolled down into the club around noon and although it had some people in there, the numbers of girls available was low and many guys were sitting in the downstairs tables having a drink. I checked a couple of hours later, and it was still slow so I ended up doing some work on my laptop in the room.
The "night shift" of girls started arriving at 8 pm, and this is the second shift unofficial time to start showing up. So, I found the best selection could be had 8-10 pm Interestingly enough, the amount of talent in the club drops around 11:30-12:30 as they are busy doing Arribas (sessions upstairs). But miraculousy, around 12:30-1 pm girls were coming back from their first or second sessions, and guys getting tired made the selection go up. Just my observation.
Saturday night was good as well, just a notch of selection down from Fridays numbers but still very good. I was concerned the Super Bowl weekend may have duded the place out, but it was still fine. Ended up taking a nice girl named Alexia from Tijuana. She is younger, medium size breasts, curvy; not too thick or thin but would repeat.
Came back today, Sunday and took an Uber for only 50 pesos or about $2.50 and it was quick and easy. No need to wait for the limo, and he dropped me off right at the border. Being it was 10 am, the line to walk into the US was super quick, and only took me about 5 minutes to get through. I went back to my car and drove back to LOS Angeles with minimal traffic. I really enjoyed my time, my only complaints were lack of things to do during the day in the area and the super pushiness of the meseros, LOL. But I would still overall say it is a must go.
BrotherMouzone
02-14-22, 08:33
Hello There,
I just got back from a 2 night stay at Cascadas which is the hotel owned and ran by Hong Kong. I parked in the lot by Jack in the Box in San Ysidro. The walk across was a breeze at 6 pm on a Friday, and there was no wait. The Mexican border agent just asked to look at my passport, and did not ask any other questions, and she did not have me fill out an FMM card which was a first for me as they did before.They do scan your luggage going into Tijuana with the same style machines used at airports so be careful not to bring anything that could be confiscated.
I walked over to the little wait room / facility to catch the Hong Kong limo which is about 2 short blocks from where you exit the turnstyle at the border exit point. You may ask a taxi driver or shop vendor if you are not sure where it is located and they will show you how to find it. I was not in a big hurry to check in as time was still early for the night, so I did have to wait about 20 minutes for the courtesy Hong Kong limo to show up and pick several of us mongers. I did end up tipping the driver a couple of bucks, as did the other riders, but the ride is less than a few minutes. If you arrive late, then taking a taxi would certainly save the 10-20 minute wait.
I had a master suite, which was a larger room than the standard room, and comes with a jacuzzi but standard rooms are fine for most. I did get a chance by the way to walk across the sister property, Hotel Rizo de Oro, but found that the rooms are similar quality as HK but the decor is slightly different, still very nice and updated. So, this is a good option if you cannot get a room at Hong Kong and it is situated right across the street so the girls can just walk across with you. I walked across the street to the mini mart and purchased water, drinks, etc. as the in room beverages are expensive.
Friday night at Hong Kong was jumping, and I actually thought there was a little more talent selection and a few more options than on Saturday night. The ratio of girls to guys was really good, so girls were eager to do arribas. As usual, the meseros (waiters) were very pushy, so if they see you sit down with a girl all the waiters in that area will hound you to buy drinks. The minute your girl finishes her drink also you will need to buy her a drink or she will stand up and leave. I was told by several girls that management is pushing them to sell drinks, and they must sell 100 fichas / drink tickets in a week, or they will pay 100 dollars. The ladies drinks were at 10 dollars for the most part. I did not care for the pushiness and did not feel like I could go less than 2 minutes without a waiter, souvenir seller, snack seller coming over asking me to buy something. This was so annoying. The girls were asking between 80-100 dollars, and some wanted 30 minute time limits. I ended up taking a nice one back on Friday night, and then called it a night around 1 am.
I woke up Saturday, and ended up going to breakfast at the restaurant at Hotel Rizo de Oro and had an excellent Grand Slam breakfast for about 9 dollars; strongly recommend it. Just out of curiosity, I strolled down into the club around noon and although it had some people in there, the numbers of girls available was low and many guys were sitting in the downstairs tables having a drink. I checked a couple of hours later, and it was still slow so I ended up doing some work on my laptop in the room.
The "night shift" of girls started arriving at 8 pm, and this is the second shift unofficial time to start showing up. So, I found the best selection could be had 8-10 pm Interestingly enough, the amount of talent in the club drops around 11:30-12:30 as they are busy doing Arribas (sessions upstairs). But miraculousy, around 12:30-1 pm girls were coming back from their first or second sessions, and guys getting tired made the selection go up. Just my observation.
Saturday night was good as well, just a notch of selection down from Fridays numbers but still very good. I was concerned the Super Bowl weekend may have duded the place out, but it was still fine. Ended up taking a nice girl named Alexia from Tijuana. She is younger, medium size breasts, curvy; not too thick or thin but would repeat.
Came back today, Sunday and took an Uber for only 50 pesos or about $2.50 and it was quick and easy. No need to wait for the limo, and he dropped me off right at the border. Being it was 10 am, the line to walk into the US was super quick, and only took me about 5 minutes to get through. I went back to my car and drove back to LOS Angeles with minimal traffic. I really enjoyed my time, my only complaints were lack of things to do during the day in the area and the super pushiness of the meseros, LOL. But I would still overall say it is a must go.Good trip report. My advice would be 1) given your arrival and departure times, if you want to save $$$ on parking, consider parking at one of the nearby trolley stations where you can park for free. You'd only have to pay $5 to go back and forth between the station and San Ysidro round trip. I always park at Palomar St. , which is 3 stops from San Ysidro, and have never had any problems there. In theory you can only park up to 24 hours at trolley stations but they aren't strict on that. I've very regularly parked 36-48 hours at trolley stations and have never had an issue.
2) Yeah, there's not much to do in Zona Norte during the day outside the clubs but there's plenty to do out and about in the city. Uber's super cheap in Tijuana so would try to check out some of the sights in the city that might interest you if you're bored. Could also consider just spending the day across the border in San Diego if you're more comfortable there and coming back over at night.
my only complaints were lack of things to do during the day in the area and the super pushiness of the meseros, LOL. But I would still overall say it is a must go.How I avoid getting bored during the day:
A. most of my "sessions" are during the day. I relax for an hour+ in my room after each session.
Be. One day I get a haircut and I also walk around example. The square near the Arch is a lot of fun. The area near the cathedral is also nice, ave revolucion, etc. - walk around the standard tourist areas which are very very close by.
See. Take a laptop or screen of any sort and watch youtube. I previously used cheap Amazon fire. Now I use Chromebook (under $200).
And I have music playing in my room all the time. I dance with gals to salsa music.
Music spices up the sessions very nicely.
The- stay late in the club (eg: till 4 am and wake up very late.)
Aquarius1981
02-14-22, 11:35
Hi, does HKCR have an website? Please DM the details thanks in advance.
StudBucket
02-14-22, 16:47
Good trip report. My advice would be 1) given your arrival and departure times, if you want to save $$$ on parking, consider parking at one of the nearby trolley stations where you can park for free. You'd only have to pay $5 to go back and forth between the station and San Ysidro round trip. I always park at Palomar St. , which is 3 stops from San Ysidro, and have never had any problems there. In theory you can only park up to 24 hours at trolley stations but they aren't strict on that. I've very regularly parked 36-48 hours at trolley stations and have never had an issue.
2) Yeah, there's not much to do in Zona Norte during the day outside the clubs but there's plenty to do out and about in the city. Uber's super cheap in Tijuana so would try to check out some of the sights in the city that might interest you if you're bored. Could also consider just spending the day across the border in San Diego if you're more comfortable there and coming back over at night.This is excellent advice, especially about the parking. 2 nights ended up costing me $66 us dollars to pay. Ouch. I will consider looking into the sights also next time.
StudBucket
02-14-22, 16:49
How I avoid getting bored during the day:
A. most of my "sessions" are during the day. I relax for an hour+ in my room after each session.
Be. One day I get a haircut and I also walk around example. The square near the Arch is a lot of fun. The area near the cathedral is also nice, ave revolucion, etc. - walk around the standard tourist areas which are very very close by.
See. Take a laptop or screen of any sort and watch youtube. I previously used cheap Amazon fire. Now I use Chromebook (under $200).
And I have music playing in my room all the time. I dance with gals to salsa music.
Music spices up the sessions very nicely.
The- stay late in the club (eg: till 4 am and wake up very late.)Also, good advice, Rambo thanks. !
BlackThought
02-14-22, 17:49
This is excellent advice, especially about the parking. 2 nights ended up costing me $66 us dollars to pay. Ouch. I will consider looking into the sights also next time.LOL same, that border station parking lot is pricey. I just fly into San Diego airport and take an Uber to the border now, costs roughly $30.
I really enjoyed my time, my only complaints were lack of things to do during the day in the area and the super pushiness of the meseros, LOL. But I would still overall say it is a must go.Good report. As well as what others suggested for during the day, the shopping area near the Zona Norte is interesting to look around, and you can people-watch while walking up and down the beaches. Though I guess they may not be busy this time of year, and can be a little run down in places. Still, plenty of places to eat and drink in both areas.
Captain Solo
02-14-22, 23:24
Simmer.
Forget about Plaza Rio mall. Best place for people watching is HK club with 100's beautiful, smiling, naked chicas showing their big boobs, flat ab, long legs and hot, moist crotches.
Hello There,
I just got back from a 2 night stay at Cascadas which is the hotel owned and ran by Hong Kong. I parked in the lot by Jack in the Box in San Ysidro. The walk across was a breeze at 6 pm on a Friday, and there was no wait. The Mexican border agent just asked to look at my passport, and did not ask any other questions, and she did not have me fill out an FMM card which was a first for me as they did before.They do scan your luggage going into Tijuana with the same style machines used at airports so be careful not to bring anything that could be confiscated.
I walked over to the little wait room / facility to catch the Hong Kong limo which is about 2 short blocks from where you exit the turnstyle at the border exit point. You may ask a taxi driver or shop vendor if you are not sure where it is located and they will show you how to find it. I was not in a big hurry to check in as time was still early for the night, so I did have to wait about 20 minutes for the courtesy Hong Kong limo to show up and pick several of us mongers. I did end up tipping the driver a couple of bucks, as did the other riders, but the ride is less than a few minutes. If you arrive late, then taking a taxi would certainly save the 10-20 minute wait.
I had a master suite, which was a larger room than the standard room, and comes with a jacuzzi but standard rooms are fine for most. I did get a chance by the way to walk across the sister property, Hotel Rizo de Oro, but found that the rooms are similar quality as HK but the decor is slightly different, still very nice and updated. So, this is a good option if you cannot get a room at Hong Kong and it is situated right across the street so the girls can just walk across with you. I walked across the street to the mini mart and purchased water, drinks, etc. as the in room beverages are expensive.If you enter Mexico at Ped East you can get the HK Limo right off the main sidewalk. Just walk until the sidewalk turns to the left and that gate on your right slides open and the Limo comes there. If not have the guy in the Shed call them. Saves you that two block walk plus some. If you have to walk to the office and wait, you just cross that street into the first lot and walk thru to the building. 9 times out of 10 the Limo is either in that lot behind that gate or will be there shortly. You never get close to the turnstiles as the lot is about half way there from immigration.
I saw some people walking on the bridge going to Ped West last Saturday night. Is Ped West open now?
Cocr Brotheler
02-16-22, 18:12
I saw some people walking on the bridge going to Ped West last Saturday night. Is Ped West open now?Has anyone seen this guy's videos? Pretty interesting the way he gets around all over Zona Norte. I like the way he reports. Anyways I think you can see him going through ped west yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpWcAdZhUas&t=95s
Aviator400
02-16-22, 20:29
I saw some people walking on the bridge going to Ped West last Saturday night. Is Ped West open now?I don't know that the border is open at that location, but they have cleared out the migrant camp last I was there (one week ago).
HolsterMike
02-16-22, 22:51
I am flying to San Diego first time on a work visa for a short stay.
I haven't been to Tijuana before but have read many posts in here.
Any non immigrant (of US) was able to cross land border at San Ysidro and go to Tijuana / HK and come back to SD without any immigration issues in last 1-2 weeks?
What do they ask in immigration when you come back? Apart from Passport, do I need to carry any other document?
PM is open.
BlackThought
02-16-22, 23:14
I am flying to San Diego first time on a work visa for a short stay.
I haven't been to Tijuana before but have read many posts in here.
Any non immigrant (of US) was able to cross land border at San Ysidro and go to Tijuana / HK and come back to SD without any immigration issues in last 1-2 weeks?
What do they ask in immigration when you come back? Apart from Passport, do I need to carry any other document?
PM is open.You shouldn't have any issue re-entering USA With a work visa and passport. As for entering Mexico, you have to check if your country's passport requires a visa to enter.
KetoAndKettle
02-17-22, 03:18
LOL same, that border station parking lot is pricey. I just fly into San Diego airport and take an Uber to the border now, costs roughly $30.Is it tricky to meet them, or do you just indicate on the app to meet you at departure gate # whatever?
Is it tricky to meet them, or do you just indicate on the app to meet you at departure gate # whatever?What. Uber?
It tells you.
I am flying to San Diego first time on a work visa for a short stay.
I haven't been to Tijuana before but have read many posts in here.
Any non immigrant (of US) was able to cross land border at San Ysidro and go to Tijuana / HK and come back to SD without any immigration issues in last 1-2 weeks?
What do they ask in immigration when you come back? Apart from Passport, do I need to carry any other document?
PM is open.They will most likely ask what you were doing in Tijuana. As a foreigner on a visa in the US, you probably don't want to tell them that you were banging chicas at Hong Kong.
BlackThought
02-17-22, 05:48
Is it tricky to meet them, or do you just indicate on the app to meet you at departure gate # whatever?Ride share pick up area is right outside the terminal.
LOL same, that border station parking lot is pricey. I just fly into San Diego airport and take an Uber to the border now, costs roughly $30.Being cheap I take bus 992 to American plaza and then trolley to the border - $2. 50 with pronto app.
This path eliminates the possibility of freeway traffic jams, etc.
Bus 992 route is very scenic since it goes along harbor blvd.
BlackThought
02-17-22, 23:15
Being cheap I take bus 992 to American plaza and then trolley to the border - $2. 50 with pronto app.
This path eliminates the possibility of freeway traffic jams, etc.
Bus 992 route is very scenic since it goes along harbor blvd.I usually travel with a friend, so we split it. $15 isn't too bad.
I saw some people walking on the bridge going to Ped West last Saturday night. Is Ped West open now?Per the Tijuana and San Diego papers it's still closed with no planned reopen date due to staffing issues on the US side.
Ride share pick up area is right outside the terminal.It was actually across the street passed the Taxi stands but I have not been since August. Cross at the light and to your left you see the taxi stand and the ride share area is in that vicinity as well.
Big Magick
02-18-22, 06:36
Does anyone know how much the average Bar girl at HK makes? I live with a few of them and could ask but in the past they beat around the Bush and give me vague answers. Usually that its not enough.
I know it varies wildly depending on the girls looks and ambition and just luck as well. I hear everything from.
Some nights no one takes them upstairs to making 500-1000 $ a night.
Does anyone know how much the average Bar girl at HK makes? I live with a few of them and could ask but in the past they beat around the Bush and give me vague answers. Usually that its not enough.
I know it varies wildly depending on the girls looks and ambition and just luck as well. I hear everything from.
Some nights no one takes them upstairs to making 500-1000 $ a night.More then I do LOL!
MarksOfMagic
02-18-22, 10:01
One of my regulars sent this to me via whatsap. The girls are scared and more are hesitant to go on dates outside the club. The latest chica was found stuffed in her own car near the end of the bridge leading to Coahuila. She worked at HK, early shifts. She had gone on a valentines date, with an American client whom she was last seen with. Who knows how she may have died? Not cool to hear news like this almost weekly.
One of my regulars sent this to me via whatsap. The girls are scared and more are hesitant to go on dates outside the club. The latest chica was found stuffed in her own car near the end of the bridge leading to Coahuila. She worked at HK, early shifts. She had gone on a valentines date, with an American client whom she was last seen with. Who knows how she may have died? Not cool to hear news like this almost weekly.Fucking A. Is there a serial killer lurking in the Zona Norte?
BlackThought
02-18-22, 19:24
More then I do LOL!She's one of the naturally pretty ones that doesn't need makeup. Probably earns more than the avg HK girl.
Big Magick
02-18-22, 19:28
More then I do LOL!Funny I'm asking because my GF works at HK and she showed me those videos of that girl. They are friends. But that girl in those pictures is very attractive. Girl looks like a damn model.
I'm honestly wondering what my girl makes. She's a cute girl and beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that but I believe most men wouldn't rank her above a 6. She's hot too me though but she's my type. Short, thin and pleasant to be around.
Another factor is yes these girls can make a lot in one night but most women are lazy. They work enough for what they need and then lie around the house till they run out of money.
Does anyone know how much the average Bar girl at HK makes? I live with a few of them and could ask but in the past they beat around the Bush and give me vague answers. Usually that its not enough.
I know it varies wildly depending on the girls looks and ambition and just luck as well. I hear everything from.
Some nights no one takes them upstairs to making 500-1000 $ a night.The real question is do I make enough to afford a HK girl? Everything else is just academic.
Captain Solo
02-18-22, 20:25
Went in HK about 7 Thursday night. The club was crowded with about 80 girls, lots of new hot girls I had never met. Most were just standing around, not bought drinks, only very few were taken out to the hotel. They looked desperate. Marilyn / Lydia was back stripping. She was the hottest-looking girl a few years ago, taken to the hotel back to back, until she had a baby and padded some weight and looked like a MILF, not like a young girl. While I was fucking her, she claimed I hurt her stomach, put a pillow between us and rushed. Damn. This time she shed some weight and looked better but I would avoid her.
The wingman was sitting in a booth near the main stage, being seduced by Sasha. Every time he's in the club she would latch onto him, wants him to take her upstairs to fuck. They are not in love with him. The watch guys and know he would spend money. Walked around the club. Lots of new girls were wearing mask. I know what regulars look like, but not new girls. Their bodies may look perfect but their faces may be ugly, WTF?
Talked to a few hot girls and checked them out. They all wanted $100 for a session. Found tall Camerun at the stairs with her slim, shapely, sexy body in a blue-bead bikini, pretty face, long dark hair, small natural boobs, long sexy legs. Gave her a propina and squeezed her crotch. She was smiling sweetly, looked so hot like a super model I had to invite her to the booth for a drink. She ordered a fake drink, water with drops of cranberry juice. I was kissing her mouth, sucking on her lips, groping her boobs and her moist crotch under the bikini. She put up only a little resistance. Sasha was looking on with disdain; she's too classy to let me finger her pussy in front of every one in the club. I already had a session with a girl in the afternoon, but got way too horny with this hot girl. My hand was inside her crotch. Put her hand on my crotch. She felt the erection and was smiling, said from Cancun, has many hot friends available for companies, wanted $100 but settled for $80. Asked to do her BB but she declined. We went out to Cascada.
The fuckers at Cascada reception now want $30 for 45 minutes in ST room, including a beer for me and a drink for the girl. I told them about the old $21 with no drinks, but they all insisted that was no longer available. Damn robbers, but I was so horny for this tall, slim girl I just gave them the money to get on Camerun quickly.
She looked perfect and sexy in the red mood light in the room. I have not felt so hot about any girl for a while. She really turned me on with her beauty and grace. She had a long tat on her back that was covered by her long dark brown hair, and a small tat of the caracol sun on the right thigh. I was sucking on her tits while fingering her clit and her G Spot. She was sighing and moaning in pleasure. Her pussy got wet and sloppy. I got so turned on by her sexy expressions, went down sucking her clit, which is a taboo for me, but I was so horny for this girl. Her pussy smells fine, no bad odors, tasted sweet like candy. Soon I was kissing her mouth, sucking on her tongue, penetrating her snug, sloppy pussy, sure felt much more sensual than the loose pussies in the US. She was sucking on my tongue and biting my lips lightly, sighing, moaning, squeezing, bucking. She did a CG then we got back to screwing long and hard in missionary.
Unlike many other HK girls, this girl gave me all access to her sexy body, really engaging and enjoying sex in bed. I had a very physical session, popped long, felt totally relaxed and tired after. It was a very good and satisfying session with a hot girl which should be expected of all HK girls. Had her phone number and her Cancun winggirl Yoko, looking like half Japanese. Will have hot girls' sexy companies when I vacation in Cancun.
Does anyone know how much the average Bar girl at HK makes? I live with a few of them and could ask but in the past they beat around the Bush and give me vague answers. Usually that its not enough.
I know it varies wildly depending on the girls looks and ambition and just luck as well. I hear everything from.
Some nights no one takes them upstairs to making 500-1000 $ a night.They're not beating around the bushes with disclosing their income. They really don't know. It is an underground economy so they are not exactly filing federal income tax. They are also here because they are not the most ambitious people, so they make enough to cover living this month's expenses. Anymore money than that, they throw it away on stupid shit like shoes, trips, or helping a family member out. Got to remember that generally these girls are barely out of high school, and the Mexican public school system is pretty shitty. If you want an answer, ask what they made last week. Then keep on asking the same question for the next 12 weeks. Then average it out yourself.
Captain Solo
02-18-22, 22:13
Big Magick.
I happened to know a few of the hottest, most popular young HK girls. On weekend nights she would be taken to the hotel back to back. She said she does about 5 sessions on busy weekend. Making about $500. On week nights she makes average $150, some night nothing.
Most HK girls get no arriba and make just $20-50 on tips and fichas a night on busy nights on weekend. Many girls try out HK then quit and go home due to low or no income from the club. If you divide the total income of all HK girls over all 100 working most night, the average income would be very low. A chart of incomes would spread from 0 to $500 a night on weekend, with the median about $70.
A few hot girls quit their HK jobs to live basic but secured lifestyles with guys; most would last 1 to 2 years max A hot, tall model-quality girl married a CHP patrolman, had kids but broke up after 2 years and went back to HK.
It's not scientific and hard data, just what I know from talking to the girls and my guesses, and I know most of them are hungry, having to pay rent, feed their moms, kids and support the BFs' booze and meth habits. Some girls desperately latch on to guys they know every time they come into the club. A few wingmen feel so harassed by girls they know that they are afraid to go in HK. But HK girls still make more money and have better jobs than working unskilled jobs.
HK girls make the most money among Tijuana bars. Girls in Adelita. Chicago, Tropical make very little money on arriba and tips. I heard they are paid 500 pesos to do 3-strip routine a night. The turn over is high in those bars.
LuvMexicanas
02-18-22, 22:19
Another factor is yes these girls can make a lot in one night but most women are lazy. They work enough for what they need and then lie around the house till they run out of money.#Facts but I would include guys too. Lazy and the complete inability to live within one's means or any concept of saving for the future is the calling card of the unsuccessful. It's not exclusive to Mexico either, as the majority of Americans have less than three months of emergency savings.
TSweeny321
02-18-22, 22:33
I want to start off by thanking everyone here for the great info. I was in LA for business and had been wanting to check out HK for a while now, based on all the great reviews. I decided to make the trip down during their Valentine's Day party earlier this month. Made the 3 hour drive down to San Ysidro and parked my car at the lot. I was only planning a short stay, otherwise I would've parked at one of the trolley stations, as has been mentioned here before. Walked across the Ped bridge and there was no line at the passport control. The guy in front of me was directed to the office, likely to fill out a form and pay. For my turn I was asked where I was going and I simply said I wanted to explore Tijuana since I was in the area. Was handed my passport back and told to head towards the baggage security. No bags on me so I breezed right through. Walked out towards the street and saw a couple taxis. Haggled with one for a ride to HK, and we ended on $6.
Dropped off in the front (or back idk). And made my way through the metal detector. It was probably around 8-9 pm when I arrived and the club was popping. I was a kid in a candy store. Stopped at the bar and was got a drink and tipped a couple bucks which was greatly appreciated. I also broke a $50 for some singles. Some of the girls sitting at the bar came immediately and I had shoo some away as I wanted to settle down and get at least one drink in me.
I got up and started to make my way around the club. There was a lesbian show happening on the lower main stage. Sat down to get a good view and dropped a few bucks. I then made my way up to the second floor to see the action happening there. I believe they had two girls with soap and bubbles. I sat down but didn't know what to do since I didn't want the dollars to get wet LOL. Turns out they just took the wet tips and put them in a bucket. I got a nice ass / pussy grab by one of the girls and they have towels for you to wipe your hand.
I eventually started talking to a young massero who ushered me to a table on the second level. I told him to find me some hot young girls so I get some action going. I'm a pretty skinny guy so I was hoping he took that into consideration. He comes back with a pretty stacked MILF. At this point I'm like fuck it. I tell her arriba and we agree on 100. The sex was actually very good. She might've been the best of the night. CBJ, LFK, Mish, CG, mish. I couldn't believe how tight she was. I patted myself on the back for making it 20 minutes since she was the first of the night. Got dressed, tipped the cleaning boys and went back down.
I ended up doing two more sessions during the night. One with this young librarian looking girl (she had these big glasses on). She was okay but was a little restrictive when I sucked on her tits. The last one was this 24 year old spinner with this amazing natural ass. She was beautiful and tight. I ended up taking all 30 minutes with her and got her to BBJ.
Wrapped up and decided to make the trek back to LA at around 2 am. Great experience and can't wait for my next visit, which will hopefully be longer.
Big Magick
02-18-22, 22:41
The real question is do I make enough to afford a HK girl? Everything else is just academic.Depends on the HK girl. I feel its a common idea to think all bar girls are gold diggers and there definitely are some like that but they are just women at the end of the day. Some want the gucci sunglasses and high rise apartment and some just want a fun guy to hang around with and live a modest life style. Its a third world country, its not that hard to afford a HK girlfriend. Assuming you don't have a minimum wage job it shouldn't be difficult.
One of my regulars sent this to me via whatsap. The girls are scared and more are hesitant to go on dates outside the club. The latest chica was found stuffed in her own car near the end of the bridge leading to Coahuila. She worked at HK, early shifts. She had gone on a valentines date, with an American client whom she was last seen with. Who knows how she may have died? Not cool to hear news like this almost weekly.These were not the result of "dates".
BlackThought
02-19-22, 00:55
#Facts but I would include guys too. Lazy and the complete inability to live within one's means or any concept of saving for the future is the calling card of the unsuccessful. It's not exclusive to Mexico either, as the majority of Americans have less than three months of emergency savings.An HK chica told me business was booming till October 2021, the extra $300 weekly payout from the PUA EDD ended in September. Coincidence? Jaja.
BlackThought
02-19-22, 01:00
Big Magick.
I happened to know a few of the hottest, most popular young HK girls. On weekend nights she would be taken to the hotel back to back. She said she does about 5 sessions on busy weekend. Making about $500. On week nights she makes average $150, some night nothing.
Most HK girls get no arriba and make just $20-50 on tips and fichas a night on busy nights on weekend. Many girls try out HK then quit and go home due to low or no income from the club. If you divide the total income of all HK girls over all 100 working most night, the average income would be very low. A chart of incomes would spread from 0 to $500 a night on weekend, with the median about $70.
A few hot girls quit their HK jobs to live basic but secured lifestyles with guys; most would last 1 to 2 years max A hot, tall model-quality girl married a CHP patrolman, had kids but broke up after 2 years and went back to HK.
It's not scientific and hard data, just what I know from talking to the girls and my guesses, and I know most of them are hungry, having to pay rent, feed their moms, kids and support the BFs' booze and meth habits. Some girls desperately latch on to guys they know every time they come into the club. A few wingmen feel so harassed by girls they know that they are afraid to go in HK. But HK girls still make more money and have better jobs than working unskilled jobs.
HK girls make the most money among Tijuana bars. Girls in Adelita. Chicago, Tropical make very little money on arriba and tips. I heard they are paid 500 pesos to do 3-strip routine a night. The turn over is high in those bars.$500 on weekends, $150 on weekdays. So a typical HK girl that works 5 days / week takes home $1,450/ week which is not bad at all.
BlackThought
02-19-22, 01:05
I eventually started talking to a young massero who ushered me to a table on the second level. I told him to find me some hot young girls so I get some action going. I'm a pretty skinny guy so I was hoping he took that into consideration. He comes back with a pretty stacked MILF. At this point I'm like fuck it. I tell her arriba and we agree on 100. The sex was actually very good. She might've been the best of the night. CBJ, LFK, Mish, CG, mish. I couldn't believe how tight she was. I patted myself on the back for making it 20 minutes since she was the first of the night. Got dressed, tipped the cleaning boys and went back down.
I ended up doing two more sessions during the night. One with this young librarian looking girl (she had these big glasses on). She was okay but was a little restrictive when I sucked on her tits. The last one was this 24 year old spinner with this amazing natural ass. She was beautiful and tight. I ended up taking all 30 minutes with her and got her to BBJ.
Wrapped up and decided to make the trek back to LA at around 2 am. Great experience and can't wait for my next visit, which will hopefully be longer.It's kinda mind blowing how tight some of these HK girls are. I guess not a lot of guys are taking them arriba LOL.
Cocr Brotheler
02-19-22, 02:17
WTF?
Did they capture the room 404 killer yet? Maybe the same person?
Yeah we all know Tijuana violent and high deaths rate but this brings Zona Norte 'chica' total to 3 in the last year that we know about + the one mesero.
#Facts but I would include guys too. Lazy and the complete inability to live within one's means or any concept of saving for the future is the calling card of the unsuccessful. It's not exclusive to Mexico either, as the majority of Americans have less than three months of emergency savings.I have always had a different opinion than many. I believe many girls make wayyy more than some guys think. For instance these days, in HK if I buy a girl a drink, and don't decide on zex she won't even allow a 2nd drink. They wouldn't turn down drinks if they didn't feel like they could go upstairs really soon for certain. There's guys in HK, every night, brining stacks of 2 to 4 k in singles just throwing it around. That gets spread around to the closest 6 girls or so. Theres guys, who go upstairs for sex agreeing to 100 but will pay another 50 to 120 for extras. The girl dancing make money on tips. I've never met a HK working girl that I would be able to date, even for free. Based on their traveling norms, ideas of what a nice restaurant and hotel should be, another words not hotel chasers and restaurant Nelson on revolucion. Ask yourself this. If you were a HK girl, and a Virgin. How much could you make an hour working the guys for tips? Easily 20 to 30 an hour.
BlackThought
02-19-22, 03:45
WTF?
Did they capture the room 404 killer yet? Maybe the same person?
Yeah we all know Tijuana violent and high deaths rate but this brings Zona Norte 'chica' total to 3 in the last year that we know about + the one mesero.These psychopaths are fucking things up for the rest of us. Hope they get caught and sent to a Mexican prison.
LuvMexicanas
02-19-22, 04:42
I have always had a different opinion than many. I believe many girls make wayyy more than some guys think. For instance these days, in HK if I buy a girl a drink, and don't decide on zex she won't even allow a 2nd drink. They wouldn't turn down drinks if they didn't feel like they could go upstairs really soon for certain. There's guys in HK, every night, brining stacks of 2 to 4 k in singles just throwing it around. That gets spread around to the closest 6 girls or so. Theres guys, who go upstairs for sex agreeing to 100 but will pay another 50 to 120 for extras. The girl dancing make money on tips. I've never met a HK working girl that I would be able to date, even for free. Based on their traveling norms, ideas of what a nice restaurant and hotel should be, another words not hotel chasers and restaurant Nelson on revolucion. Ask yourself this. If you were a HK girl, and a Virgin. How much could you make an hour working the guys for tips? Easily 20 to 30 an hour.Interesting post but completely unrelated to my post. All good man. I find your posts entertaining and you offer a unique perspective.
Went in HK about 7 Thursday night. The club was crowded with about 80 girls, lots of new hot girls I had never met. Most were just standing around, not bought drinks, only very few were taken out to the hotel. They looked desperate. Marilyn / Lydia was back stripping. She was the hottest-looking girl a few years ago, taken to the hotel back to back, until she had a baby and padded some weight and looked like a MILF, not like a young girl. While I was fucking her, she claimed I hurt her stomach, put a pillow between us and rushed. Damn. This time she shed some weight and looked better but I would avoid her.
The wingman was sitting in a booth near the main stage, being seduced by Sasha. Every time he's in the club she would latch onto him, wants him to take her upstairs to fuck. They are not in love with him. The watch guys and know he would spend money. Walked around the club. Lots of new girls were wearing mask. I know what regulars look like, but not new girls. Their bodies may look perfect but their faces may be ugly, WTF?
Talked to a few hot girls and checked them out. They all wanted $100 for a session. Found tall Camerun at the stairs with her slim, shapely, sexy body in a blue-bead bikini, pretty face, long dark hair, small natural boobs, long sexy legs. Gave her a propina and squeezed her crotch. She was smiling sweetly, looked so hot like a super model I had to invite her to the booth for a drink. She ordered a fake drink, water with drops of cranberry juice. I was kissing her mouth, sucking on her lips, groping her boobs and her moist crotch under the bikini. She put up only a little resistance. Sasha was looking on with disdain; she's too classy to let me finger her pussy in front of every one in the club. I already had a session with a girl in the afternoon, but got way too horny with this hot girl. My hand was inside her crotch. Put her hand on my crotch. She felt the erection and was smiling, said from Cancun, has many hot friends available for companies, wanted $100 but settled for $80. Asked to do her BB but she declined. We went out to Cascada..If the rooms are now $30, you need 1 dollar tip for the robe guy, 1 for the cleanup, 1 for the guy at the desk, maybe, and 1 for the guy giving you the two drinks which neither of you should be wasting time on, it therefore cost about $134. The price just 4 years ago was about $80 to $90. Has anyone slowed their arribas down due to this? We keep saying guys will pay $80,for the room, and keep going, but it makes you wonder, why HK doesn't just charge the $80 for the room now and see what happens. I'm surprised the beers for guys are still only $4 dollars. If they charged $8 they couldn't still sell 70% of the same amount they sell now. The only thing good lately for me in HK is the restaurant isn't overpriced for food that I like.
$500 on weekends, $150 on weekdays. So a typical HK girl that works 5 days / week takes home $1,450/ week which is not bad at all.I knew this girl named Tesla, a light skinned very pretty gal from Hermosillo Sonora. She went back to back Arriba's during her 9 hour shift. I never saw her in the club after I fucked her and I was usually her first of the night. So it was safe to say she made about $1000 or more a night. Last time we spoke she told me a guy "retired" her but that she still "missed the money". There are some that don't make shit for money like my other friend Romy, who told me she made 12 dollars. Only they know how much they really make. One last girl complained to me and cried that one of her clients stole $1800 dlls from her and her Iphone. Takes a real pos to steal from a working girl.
The real question is do I make enough to afford a HK girl? Everything else is just academic.I don't think anyone makes enough money for them, that's why you rent them and then try a different one. They are all various levels of crazy and love the money. Even the rich guys have trouble, what luck would regular joe like me have. I am friendly but I take none of them serious.
She's one of the naturally pretty ones that doesn't need makeup. Probably earns more than the avg HK girl.Her name she went by before was Varuska. I nailed back in the 7th floor HK pandemic days. Very sexy body and a tight pussy. I never got a chance to repeat but I was her last week in HK with a client. I do agree she is naturally beautiful. She is from Hermosillo Sonora, same as my current girl. Many hotties from Sonora, must the be water.
$500 on weekends, $150 on weekdays. So a typical HK girl that works 5 days / week takes home $1,450/ week which is not bad at all.There is no way the average HK girl pulls down $1,450 a week. That's stratospheric money in Mexico. I've asked bar girls all over the world this question, just for kicks. Almost every one will give you the number of the very, very, very best day of their lives. But those unicorns are pretty scarce.
It doesn't take a lot of observation to see how much competition there is in the bars. It is, and always has been, a buyer's market. Most gringos don't quite understand that concept, but that's a discussion for another day. A girl's earning potential, if she's pretty, is very high when she starts, but it diminishes rapidly as so many gringo horndogs are always after the next FOB. So, a few of the hottest ones are consistently busy, for a short amount of time. But many times a girl makes almost nothing in a night. Averaged out, sure, it's better than a fabrica. But the working conditions are pretty brutal, their shelf life is very limited, and the job literally sucks the soul out of most of them. Every woman in Tijuana knows where the ZN is. But few will choose to work there. The money's relatively good, but it's not that good.
LuvMexicanas
02-19-22, 20:30
Her name she went by before was Varuska. I nailed back in the 7th floor HK pandemic days. Very sexy body and a tight pussy. I never got a chance to repeat but I was her last week in HK with a client. I do agree she is naturally beautiful. She is from Hermosillo Sonora, same as my current girl. Many hotties from Sonora, must the be water.Totally agree. There are beautiful chicas everywhere in Mexico but I think Sonora is tops if you're talking the 1%. I banged out the chica below a couple dozen times in Nogales. Her face is even better than her perfect flakita body. Sonora is about as far North as you can go and it's not a melting pot (especially Nogales, which is much smaller than Hermosillo and lacks the same employment opportunities) with an influx of shorter darker Mexicans from Puebla, Chiapas or other places in the interior and far South. The people there are much taller and I've seen plenty who could pass for a John Smith or Sarah Jones.
BrotherMouzone
02-19-22, 20:50
Does anyone know how much the average Bar girl at HK makes? I live with a few of them and could ask but in the past they beat around the Bush and give me vague answers. Usually that its not enough.
I know it varies wildly depending on the girls looks and ambition and just luck as well. I hear everything from.
Some nights no one takes them upstairs to making 500-1000 $ a night.Might not be a truly answerable question given how widely this varies. Varies by the factors you mention as well as probably how many days / week the girls choose to work, shifts they typically work (day vs. Night), and for many months out of the year they choose to spend in Tijuana vs. Their home elsewhere in Mexico. You might have girls you'd rate a 9-10, but are lazy and don't make as much $$$ as you might think while some girls you'd rate a 5-6 looks-wise but have an A+ hustle with guys.
It's like asking how much the average American stripper makes a night / year. Nearly impossible to quantify given all the variances.
BlackThought
02-19-22, 23:49
There is no way the average HK girl pulls down $1,450 a week. That's stratospheric money in Mexico. I've asked bar girls all over the world this question, just for kicks. Almost every one will give you the number of the very, very, very best day of their lives. But those unicorns are pretty scarce.
It doesn't take a lot of observation to see how much competition there is in the bars. It is, and always has been, a buyer's market. Most gringos don't quite understand that concept, but that's a discussion for another day. A girl's earning potential, if she's pretty, is very high when she starts, but it diminishes rapidly as so many gringo horndogs are always after the next FOB. So, a few of the hottest ones are consistently busy, for a short amount of time. But many times a girl makes almost nothing in a night. Averaged out, sure, it's better than a fabrica. But the working conditions are pretty brutal, their shelf life is very limited, and the job literally sucks the soul out of most of them. Every woman in Tijuana knows where the ZN is. But few will choose to work there. The money's relatively good, but it's not that good.I agree, if it were full time work that's 52*1,450 = $75,400/ year. I follow a few of the above avg looking ones on Instagram and they sure as hell ain't living like they earn $75 k / year in Mexico. They vacation in cabos and Cancun and aren't staying at the luxury resorts. I think a more realistic figure is $1000/ week, average monthly income in Tijuana is $1100/ month.
BlackThought
02-19-22, 23:51
I knew this girl named Tesla, a light skinned very pretty gal from Hermosillo Sonora. She went back to back Arriba's during her 9 hour shift. I never saw her in the club after I fucked her and I was usually her first of the night. So it was safe to say she made about $1000 or more a night. Last time we spoke she told me a guy "retired" her but that she still "missed the money". There are some that don't make shit for money like my other friend Romy, who told me she made 12 dollars. Only they know how much they really make. One last girl complained to me and cried that one of her clients stole $1800 dlls from her and her Iphone. Takes a real pos to steal from a working girl.She's probably the outlier that skews the average. I see a lot of girls just sitting around bored with no customers. I also don't really see a ton of guys taking them upstairs, but I only have been going on Mondays and Tuesdays.
We all know we can touch a girls ass for $1 in the club. But how do maximize that touch time for $1.
One trick I picked up this trip. When a girl approaches you and initiates dialog and you find her attractive.
Then that is your license to engage in a short conversation (name, where she she is from, rates, etc) as you are feeling her body / ass and tits. And then you give her a $1 on closing and she leaves happy with a smile. Everyone wins.
Hard Rooster
02-21-22, 02:35
Hello,
1st time poster. Long time lurker. I have minor international punting experience visiting a few FKKs years ago, Top Damas a decade ago in Barca and disappointing Nogo and Puerto Puensco MX ventures decades ago. I'm tiring of the local AAMPS and ready to hit up Tijuana after this sex COVID prision. I'd go to Germany, but the FKKs still seem to be a shadow of old and Colombia seems too sketchy for me. Asia doesn't appeal to me.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy? But I need to drain my balls up to 5 times a day. Understanding this, I'll be less picky of looks and availability is the best ability. Not looking for street action due to safety and the outside chance of an underage girl.
I've read on the escort pages that they explicitly do NOT go to Zona Norte hotels. So is the best strategy to have a hotel just outside the Zona to get the escorts delivered and hit up Hong Kong day time? I've did a little recon and Good Girls & Musas seem to deliver. I'm not going to deal with Facebook or Tinder chicks. If I wanted to deal with that, I'd work on hard to get pussy at home that will be much more expensive and I don't really want to leave a digital trail.
I'm temped by the HKMexpress transportation with a VIP card like Oosik posted if HK can consistently provide constant action in exchange for you committing there. I don't care about the food or booze. A little mota (from San Diego) and mucho easy pussy budgeting around $500 per day.
I promise to pay it back and report on findings.
BlackThought
02-21-22, 03:57
Hello,
1st time poster. Long time lurker. I have minor international punting experience visiting a few FKKs years ago, Top Damas a decade ago in Barca and disappointing Nogo and Puerto Puensco MX ventures decades ago. I'm tiring of the local AAMPS and ready to hit up Tijuana after this sex COVID prision. I'd go to Germany, but the FKKs still seem to be a shadow of old and Colombia seems too sketchy for me. Asia doesn't appeal to me.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy?.$500/ day for just sex? HK girls charge $100/30 min, so for 5 pops that's $500, unless you can pop more than once in a 30 min window. If you book an overnight room at hotel Cascadas then you don't need to pay the $30ST rates, just take them to your room. If you're not looking for the hottest chicas then stick with the escort agencies or take girls from tropical to
Cascadas, I believe they go for less than HK.
Hello,
1st time poster. Long time lurker. I have minor international punting experience visiting a few FKKs years ago, Top Damas a decade ago in Barca and disappointing Nogo and Puerto Puensco MX ventures decades ago. I'm tiring of the local AAMPS and ready to hit up Tijuana after this sex COVID prision. I'd go to Germany, but the FKKs still seem to be a shadow of old and Colombia seems too sketchy for me. Asia doesn't appeal to me.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy? But I need to drain my balls up to 5 times a day. Understanding this, I'll be less picky of looks and availability is the best ability. Not looking for street action due to safety and the outside chance of an underage girl.
I've read on the escort pages that they explicitly do NOT go to Zona Norte hotels. So is the best strategy to have a hotel just outside the Zona to get the escorts delivered and hit up Hong Kong day time? I've did a little recon and Good Girls & Musas seem to deliver. I'm not going to deal with Facebook or Tinder chicks. If I wanted to deal with that, I'd work on hard to get pussy at home that will be much more expensive and I don't really want to leave a digital trail..$500 a day will not be 5 HK girls even if you have other money for expenses like food hotel drinks. The entire HK experience is constant tipping everyone. Your going to need to buy girls drinks at 10 dollars to see if they are going to be duds in the room. You may have to buy 4 girls a drink to find a acceptable one. If you don't pay for extras for that 100 bucks you will not get the type of sex you expected to get. In many cases anyway. Guys who rate a 7 or 8 or above in looks probably get these extra things for free though. If you rent a room in HK you just need to pay 3 dollars per girl, 1 dollar tip to robe guy, desk guy, and your room if you want clean sheets and clean towels.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy? But I need to drain my balls up to 5 times a day. Understanding this, I'll be less picky of looks and availability is the best ability. Not looking for street action due to safety and the outside chance of an underage girl.If you are staying at Cascadas then there is no room fee if you bring girls to the room. They can be from street or the club.
Streetgirl IDs are checked when they enter hotel. So they will not be under age. Also most of them are mothers and are 20+.
We all know we can touch a girls ass for $1 in the club. But how do maximize that touch time for $1.
One trick I picked up this trip. When a girl approaches you and initiates dialog and you find her attractive.
Then that is your license to engage in a short conversation (name, where she she is from, rates, etc) as you are feeling her body / ass and tits. And then you give her a $1 on closing and she leaves happy with a smile. Everyone wins.Yes guys should be informed to not touch a girl for a second if you don't have cash to tip. It will get confrontational. I saw a dude slap a girl in ass once and he wouldn't tip. Once I barely touched a girl and then realized I had no change. I tried to give her 4 quarters haha did not go well. Probably the best use of 1 dollar is to finger the girls on the whip cream stages.
Last Wednesday night and most of Friday I aw this big spender at the club.
He is fat / obese guy with glasses.
He gets all 4 benches in the area between two stages at front of club and has about 8 girls around him and hanging around that seating area. All are drinking and snacking. The tables are covered with snacks.
He often walks to gals and showers between $20 - multiple hundred dollar bills on each gal he likes on stage.
Friday he walked to 2nd floor and made it rain what I thought was $500 on a blonde - She later told me it was $800.
Sometimes he even has the mesmeros do the stuffing of dollar bills on gals.
And a lot of the time there is at least one HK club manager. Giving him that VIP attention.
Saw the same guy in my last trip too. Though he was much more generous in this trip.
If I didn't see it with my own eyes I would not believe it.
Captain Solo
02-21-22, 07:39
CB.
Tesla also mentioned she made up to $500 on busy weekends, going arriba back to back. 5 to 7 arribas in their shift for the most popular girls seem realistic. Even if they are picked up back to back, they still have to spend time walking to the hotel, clean up, eat, drink, bullshit with their friends, may be taking a few hits. Then week nights they may not make any or very little money.
There may be 2 or 3 super hot girls any night. The rest and quite a few actually make no or very little money. I met a few attractive students from Ensenada who could not make enough money in HK to cover transportation and rooms in Tijuana. Averaged out with slow week nights, the hottest girls probably make about $300 a night, over 100 working nights a year. That would give them $30 K a year. The spread of average nightly incomes goes from $0 to $300 with the median at about $60-70. Well, I am not a CPA working for big accounting firms with billionaire clients, so my figures may be full of shit hehe.
One guy took Tesla to the hotel with his Gopro device hidden. She found it, conveniently after getting her money, and got very upset, calling in security. Security guys collared and ejected from the hotel. They put enough fear into him that he quickly crossed the border back to US for safety hehe.
Be careful with sob stories from putas. They have a lot of practice making up sob stories to drain guys' wallets. Near Christmas holiday, a hot and fun HK girl texted me that the cleaning women stole her Christmas tree and she needed replacement, likely story hehe. The only tree she ever knew and loved was the marijuana species. She also texted the same appeal to my wingmen.
Cocr Brotheler
02-21-22, 08:34
Just if you stay in Cascadas stay far away from room 404. I serve as spiritual shaman for the good mongers of HK / Cascadas and wish for them to keep their spirits free of permanent torment and nightmares from the demons of the slaughtered HK chicas inside Cascadas hotel.
You no want to meet Santa Muerte so young in life.
Last Wednesday night and most of Friday I aw this big spender at the club.
He is fat / obese guy with glasses.
He gets all 4 benches in the area between two stages at front of club and has about 8 girls around him and hanging around that seating area. All are drinking and snacking. The tables are covered with snacks.
He often walks to gals and showers between $20 - multiple hundred dollar bills on each gal he likes on stage.
Friday he walked to 2nd floor and made it rain what I thought was $500 on a blonde - She later told me it was $800.
Sometimes he even has the mesmeros do the stuffing of dollar bills on gals.
And a lot of the time there is at least one HK club manager. Giving him that VIP attention.
Saw the same guy in my last trip too. Though he was much more generous in this trip.
If I didn't see it with my own eyes I would not believe it.This guy drops 5 to 10, 20 k a night on the girls. He doesn't even molest them hahah. Like barely touches them. Maybe he's married and not allowed to. I walk into HK for only 40 minutes, 3 times a week, for the last 3 months. I saw him every time. Its these kind of guys who make it impossible to believe that these girls aren't making 4 times more annually than other posters claim. Don't forget, virtually all these girls still make escort money outside of Tijuana. Most live in ideal cities in other places in Mexico which have men with money to spend for sex. So they may just bang one guy a day for 100 bucks in Cabo, or Puerto Lavarta, or Mexico city. If these girls weren't escorting outside of Tijuana they would stay longer. Many girls told me even at 100 bucks they hate Tijuana because they get much more per sex encounter in other Mexican cities. I know captain talks a lot about a couple low income girls he met. But the ones I met have multiple houses owned, cars, travel a lot, and have all laughed when I told them my annual salary in USA.
BlackThought
02-21-22, 18:59
This guy drops 5 to 10, 20 k a night on the girls. He doesn't even molest them hahah. Like barely touches them. Maybe he's married and not allowed to. I walk into HK for only 40 minutes, 3 times a week, for the last 3 months. I saw him every time. Its these kind of guys who make it impossible to believe that these girls aren't making 4 times more annually than other posters claim. Don't forget, virtually all these girls still make escort money outside of Tijuana. Most live in ideal cities in other places in Mexico which have men with money to spend for sex. So they may just bang one guy a day for 100 bucks in Cabo, or Puerto Lavarta, or Mexico city. If these girls weren't escorting outside of Tijuana they would stay longer. Many girls told me even at 100 bucks they hate Tijuana because they get much more per sex encounter in other Mexican cities. I know captain talks a lot about a couple low income girls he met. But the ones I met have multiple houses owned, cars, travel a lot, and have all laughed when I told them my annual salary in USA.Perhaps HK is just a place for them to find the next cow to milk. One of the HK chicas said her and another HK chica went to vacation in Cancun / Tulum with a monger that paid for everything + $1000/ day. I can definitely see them earning more $ per session in resort destinations vs Tijuana. This whole making it rain thing has to stop, if they can make $500 stripping on stage vs $100 to fuck one of us, they'll likely stick with the stage jajaj.
This guy drops 5 to 10, 20 k a night on the girls. He doesn't even molest them hahah. Like barely touches them. Maybe he's married and not allowed to. I walk into HK for only 40 minutes, 3 times a week, for the last 3 months. I saw him every time. Its these kind of guys who make it impossible to believe that these girls aren't making 4 times more annually than other posters claim. Don't forget, virtually all these girls still make escort money outside of Tijuana. Most live in ideal cities in other places in Mexico which have men with money to spend for sex. So they may just bang one guy a day for 100 bucks in Cabo, or Puerto Lavarta, or Mexico city. If these girls weren't escorting outside of Tijuana they would stay longer. Many girls told me even at 100 bucks they hate Tijuana because they get much more per sex encounter in other Mexican cities. I know captain talks a lot about a couple low income girls he met. But the ones I met have multiple houses owned, cars, travel a lot, and have all laughed when I told them my annual salary in USA.I had one of those richie rich dudes take me to Pegasus in Thailand. IMO they are outliers.
El Guerito
02-21-22, 19:28
Have to agree with Dogers. These girls make a lot more than some of you guys think. It's a case of the haves and the have nots. Yes, there are a lot of girls struggling that don't make much.
However, the hotter girls, the 8's and up make a lot. Even the 7's and up do well, if they are cool and build up relationships with customers.
Out of the girls I know personally, one makes $1,500 to $2,500 per week when she is in Tijuana. She only works about 6 months per year. $1,500 in a week is a bad week for her. There were times she made more also, when she had two whales showering her with money for OTC.
Another local chica I know works year round, but hardly ever works in the club. She'll work maybe one day a week or one week a month. She sees lots of customers OTC. She'll make about $1,000 to $1,500 a week working just one day in the bar and seeing guys OTC. If she works a full week in the bar, she makes at least $2 k for the week.
I know other chicas who are semi-retired and own multiple homes and have businesses in Sinaloa. They'll work maybe a month or two per year in Tijuana now, but they don't need to. They just do it for a little extra income.
Also, the hotter girls are always getting gifts from guys. New iphones, laptops, clothes, vacations, you name it. I even know girls who have received cars from guys. One even had a guy buy her a condo. Crazy shit.
Some of these girls will see guys in their home town or work in Puerto Vallarta or Cabo on occasion also.
This is a re-post with edits and updated photos.
Myra still looks fine to me. See her photo from back unclothed. Fine body!
Other great finds this trip.
* Blonde is a little chubby. But satisfied my blonde desire / fetish. She can do high energy sex. I did her onl three days.
Blonde stands on west part on calle primera) at intersection of primera and constitution. By Tuarino bad.
600 pesos 30 min. Warning she has stomach scars.
* night time gem of a find is Vanessa. By taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Vanessa. 600 pesos for 30 min.
She is photographed fully clothed here with dress.
Her friend next to her a skinny gal also great. The friend had stomach scars. Same pricde.
* Day time great find by same taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Melissa. Short hair to shoulder. As seen in photo.
Melissa has great boobs. Lots of tattoos. Nice smile. Some tattoos visible in street clithing so she is easy to find. Nice and tall - 1200 pesos for hour.
I go to HK club to see great beauty and feel boobs / ass of amazing beauties for $1 each. I. e, to have a great time and get turned on.
And hit the street girls for dirty dancing, lap dances & sex where looks is not as important as attitude and skill. I found women with stomach scars are great value. If you can ignore stomach scars your money can go a long way.
Night time gem of a find is Vanessa. By taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Vanessa. 600 pesos for 30 min.
She is photographed fully clothed here with dress.
Is this the HK girl people are saying got killed the other day?
https://nypost.com/2022/02/21/mexican-woman-who-vanished-after-valentines-day-date-with-american-man-found-dead/
This is a re-post with edits and updated photos.
Myra still looks fine to me. See her photo from back unclothed. Fine body!
Other great finds this trip.
* Blonde is a little chubby. But satisfied my blonde desire / fetish. She can do high energy sex. I did her onl three days.
Blonde stands on west part on calle primera) at intersection of primera and constitution. By Tuarino bad.
600 pesos 30 min. Warning she has stomach scars.
* night time gem of a find is Vanessa. By taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Vanessa. 600 pesos for 30 min.
She is photographed fully clothed here with dress.
Her friend next to her a skinny gal also great. The friend had stomach scars. Same pricde.
* Day time great find by same taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Melissa. Short hair to shoulder. As seen in photo.
Melissa has great boobs. Lots of tattoos. Nice smile. Some tattoos visible in street clithing so she is easy to find. Nice and tall - 1200 pesos for hour.
I go to HK club to see great beauty and feel boobs / ass of amazing beauties for $1 each. I. e, to have a great time and get turned on.
And hit the street girls for dirty dancing, lap dances & sex where looks is not as important as attitude and skill. I found women with stomach scars are great value. If you can ignore stomach scars your money can go a long way.Which hotel did you take these girls? Cleanliness and hygenine is absolute must for me. So I only venture into Casadas and Rio, which invariable means I have to stick with bar girls in HK and Tropical. I don't do street girls, even if I find someone pretty for 2 reasons. Not sure, if they are tested and disease free since they are not monitored for health checks like HK and Tropical does. And second, would never step into the dump hotels these girls use. Please advice.
Night time gem of a find is Vanessa. By taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Vanessa. 600 pesos for 30 min.
She is photographed fully clothed here with dress.How is her service and extras?
Very nice photo.
Night time gem of a find is Vanessa. By taco stand near playboy club on ave consitution is Vanessa. 600 pesos for 30 min.
She is photographed fully clothed here with dress.
How is her service and extras?.Vanessa provided excellent service.
In fact I had her at 10 PM and I liked her so such went back to her around 1:30 am.
She or the skinny gal next to her will be my "good night" sessions from now onwards.
Which hotel did you take these girls? Cleanliness and hygenine is absolute must for me. So I only venture into Casadas and Rio, which invariable means I have to stick with bar girls in HK and Tropical. I don't do street girls, even if I find someone pretty for 2 reasons. Not sure, if they are tested and disease free since they are not monitored for health checks like HK and Tropical does. And second, would never step into the dump hotels these girls use. Please advice.I always bring street girls to my room at Cascadas. So room is free since I already have a room there.
Having my own room means I already have music setup, etc.
Street girls can be taken to Cascadas. They just need ID.
I agree some of these girls have horrible hotels.
I was told all street girls are also required to have health check-ups. One gal showed me her health card.
Regias Voice
02-22-22, 09:03
Is this the HK girl people are saying got killed the other day?
https://nypost.com/2022/02/21/mexican-woman-who-vanished-after-valentines-day-date-with-american-man-found-dead/Yes, she worked at HK and was friends with a girl I know there. Lots of the girls are scared. I'm impressed it made the news, the other recent murders / deaths related to HK have not received any media attention. She didn't die in the club so it is probably harder to keep quiet. Someone asked if they had arrested anyone for the murder in room 404, and the answer is no, unless they are not telling the family. Zero new information from police since they told us the manner of death.
Big Magick
02-22-22, 13:51
I have seen the obese guy with glasses. It's annoying when hes got some of the best girls around him just eating and drinking and you can't take them upstairs.
When it comes to top tier women I have spoken to, it seems around 5 k a month maybe a bit more or less depending on how hard they hustle. We are also looking at it from a male perspective and men are willing to work endless hours, women not so much. Its also a job where burn out is very real. You try drinking, fucking, entertaining gringos 8+ hrs a day 5 days a week. Yeah its not "hard labor" but mentally draining.
Dogers69. I get where you are coming from and I have seen some of the reckless throwing of cash at HK. It happens all the time in american strip clubs so why not HK. But I also don't believe its as common of an occurrence as your post make it seem. Just break it down logically. Why would so many chicas be so thirsty for you to take them upstairs if there was so much money raining everywhere? Doesn't add up. As a guy like yourself who was in HK 2-3 times a week for like a year I rarely saw dudes making it rain cash but maybe I just missed it? Its hard to say.
Captain solo. Really agree with your response. With all the competition out there the average and below girls are picking up the scraps. With all their expenses, ficha quotas etc they probably arent making a lot. Yes way more then the girl working at the OXXO or a factory in tijuana but not more than a middle class american.
And you guys are right about the girls from Sonora being top shelf. My girl is from sonora and all her friends from there are hot. They look European with obviously latina features mixed in.
My point in asking about their potential earnings is to see how much this HK girl really needs me. I'm paying the rent in Tijuana where we live but besides that she doesn't ask for money. Its hard to tell if she's just pretending to be interested or she really wants a future. I'm really starting to question why I would even want a future with a working girl. Honestly the more attached I get to her the harder it is to see her go off to work. These are obviously things I have to figure out on my own but it is damn sure is fun "dating" this girl.
Working girl or civvie I guess the saying is the same. "she's not yours it's just your turn". So might as well enjoy her while its here.
LuvMexicanas
02-22-22, 15:46
Yes, she worked at HK and was friends with a girl I know there. Lots of the girls are scared. I'm impressed it made the news, the other recent murders / deaths related to HK have not received any media attention. She didn't die in the club so it is probably harder to keep quiet. Someone asked if they had arrested anyone for the murder in room 404, and the answer is no, unless they are not telling the family. Zero new information from police since they told us the manner of death.The Hong Kong chica I banged out two weeks ago before her shift didn't seem scared at all. As far as she's concerned, 404 was an overdose. Having said that, she knows working as a hooker in Tijuana has its hazards which she accepts because she likes the money. She also said Hong Kong attracts the most bad guys "malo hombres" than the other bars. She previously worked at Adelitas. She's older and experienced in dealing with mongers and said she sees young, inexperienced chicas go up with sketchy guys that she would take a hard pass on. She's financially in a good spot because she hasn't squandered the money she's made over the years and never gets drunk or high to avoid impairing what she believes is her keen eye for screening guys.
I have seen the obese guy with glasses. It's annoying when hes got some of the best girls around him just eating and drinking and you can't take them upstairs.
When it comes to top tier women I have spoken to, it seems around 5 k a month maybe a bit more or less depending on how hard they hustle. We are also looking at it from a male perspective and men are willing to work endless hours, women not so much. Its also a job where burn out is very real. You try drinking, fucking, entertaining gringos 8+ hrs a day 5 days a week. Yeah its not "hard labor" but mentally draining.
Dogers69. I get where you are coming from and I have seen some of the reckless throwing of cash at HK. It happens all the time in american strip clubs so why not HK. But I also don't believe its as common of an occurrence as your post make it seem. Just break it down logically. Why would so many chicas be so thirsty for you to take them upstairs if there was so much money raining everywhere? Doesn't add up. As a guy like yourself who was in HK 2-3 times a week for like a year I rarely saw dudes making it rain cash but maybe I just missed it? Its hard to say.
Captain solo. Really agree with your response. With all the competition out there the average and below girls are picking up the scraps. With all their expenses, ficha quotas etc they probably arent making a lot. Yes way more then the girl working at the OXXO or a factory in tijuana but not more than a middle class american.
And you guys are right about the girls from Sonora being top shelf. My girl is from sonora and all her friends from there are hot. They look European with obviously latina features mixed in..I have dated three girls from Sonora, they were all hot. My current GF is from Sonora too. I love her attitude. She is a very tough girl but also sweet and tender. Really can't compare to any American woman I met.
BlackThought
02-22-22, 18:00
Dogers69. I get where you are coming from and I have seen some of the reckless throwing of cash at HK. It happens all the time in american strip clubs so why not HK. But I also don't believe its as common of an occurrence as your post make it seem. Just break it down logically. Why would so many chicas be so thirsty for you to take them upstairs if there was so much money raining everywhere? Doesn't add up. As a guy like yourself who was in HK 2-3 times a week for like a year I rarely saw dudes making it rain cash but maybe I just missed it? Its hard to say.
Captain solo. Really agree with your response. With all the competition out there the average and below girls are picking up the scraps. With all their expenses, ficha quotas etc they probably arent making a lot. Yes way more then the girl working at the OXXO or a factory in tijuana but not more than a middle class american.
Working girl or civvie I guess the saying is the same. "she's not yours it's just your turn". So might as well enjoy her while its here.I certainly haven't seen wads of dollar bills being rained, but maybe those guys only go on weekends. I use my dollar bills wisely $1-2 per squeeze / feel, $100 lasts me a long time jaja.
The Hong Kong chica I banged out two weeks ago before her shift didn't seem scared at all. As far as she's concerned, 404 was an overdose. Having said that, she knows working as a hooker in Tijuana has its hazards which she accepts because she likes the money. She also said Hong Kong attracts the most bad guys "malo hombres" than the other bars. She previously worked at Adelitas. She's older and experienced in dealing with mongers and said she sees young, inexperienced chicas go up with sketchy guys that she would take a hard pass on. She's financially in a good spot because she hasn't squandered the money she's made over the years and never gets drunk or high to avoid impairing what she believes is her keen eye for screening guys.In theory, that should work. But I recall a while back, one of the Security guys told me that I could no longer bring my eye drops in, because some fuckhead was doping's the chica drinks, presumably with date rape stuff. As you know, some security guards can do patdowns, but most cannot properly. So screening should help, but there are gaps still. HK should adopt some sort of Rescue plan.
Then throw the predator off of the top of some building to make it look like an accident.
LuvMexicanas
02-22-22, 19:19
And you guys are right about the girls from Sonora being top shelf. My girl is from sonora and all her friends from there are hot. They look European with obviously latina features mixed in.This was years ago in Nogales. She sent me this photo and much to my surprise it was accurate when she met me in the Fray Marcos Hotel.
LuvMexicanas
02-23-22, 00:14
In theory, that should work. But I recall a while back, one of the Security guys told me that I could no longer bring my eye drops in, because some fuckhead was doping's the chica drinks, presumably with date rape stuff. As you know, some security guards can do patdowns, but most cannot properly. So screening should help, but there are gaps still. HK should adopt some sort of Rescue plan.
Then throw the predator off of the top of some building to make it look like an accident.Or the security guys like they tend to do in liking power trips due to their menial low paying jobs made that shit up to have a laugh at your expense.
I certainly haven't seen wads of dollar bills being rained, but maybe those guys only go on weekends. I use my dollar bills wisely $1-2 per squeeze / feel, $100 lasts me a long time jaja.When Greg and I met in the club last Friday I showed him literally stacks of $1 bills in bundles of 100 on that guy's table.
BlackThought
02-23-22, 05:12
When Greg and I met in the club last Friday I showed him literally stacks of $1 bills in bundles of 100 on that guy's table.He's going to have a target on his back by flaunting so much cash like that in a place like Tijuana.
Last Friday night around 1 am-2 am I saw / heard amazing Mexican music. The band had about 12 members and features a lot of brass instruments (trumpets, etc). It was really awesome and worth the trade-off of missing the beauties next door at HK.
See photo.
It is worth wandering into Las Chevalas occasionally to see if there is some good live music.
Captain Solo
02-23-22, 07:56
Rambo,
That fat old guy always spreads out a dozen $2 cheap snack plates on 2 tables and stand around bullshitting with a few girls like he's a hot shot. He's hogging the best tables to the annoyance of others.
To most guys and girls in the club he's just a cheap show off, trying to draw attention to himself to boost his little ego and nothing else. If he really cares about the girls he could tip them discreetly, not having to make it so obvious. He's an annoyance in the club but most girls and guys just ignore him like a cheap shit selfish idiot.
A Mexican jewelry shop owner did it differently a few years back. He would go in the club to drink with his friends and tell meseros he would buy every girl in the club a drink. Meseros would go to each girl, tell them a gentleman offers them a drink and ask what they want. As meseros hustled drinks to the girls, he paid out about $1,000 on drinks and tips in 1 shot, but he only drank with his friends, never looked at or touched any girl. He just wanted to make them feel special and happy. The girls quietly acknowledged his generosity, but respected his boundary and never approached or hustled him. The guy was a cool gentleman and the girls had class. Cool and unselfish guys would make good friends, while the cheap shit selfish trash should be avoided.
One of my wingmen likes to sit on the balcony with stacks of $ bills, $400-500 each time, and rain $20-30 down to each stripper, some were hideously ugly and bear clumsy on stage. I don't understand why he rewards all of them. Logically he should skip the ugly ones and concentrate his rewards on the hot and good strippers. Perhaps he believes in liberty, equality, sorority and the need for everyone to support erotic arts hehe.
I would go around the club checking out the girls and squeeze propinas into boobs and crotches of hot, young girls, complimenting, kissing, squeezing, hugging them to show my appreciation, hoping they would come back to work often. No. I don't tip big, fat, old, ugly girls so they get the hint to stay home, make tacos and have bad sex with their unemployed, useless, mooching, dickless novios.
I have seen the obese guy with glasses. It's annoying when hes got some of the best girls around him just eating and drinking and you can't take them upstairs.
When it comes to top tier women I have spoken to, it seems around 5 k a month maybe a bit more or less depending on how hard they hustle. We are also looking at it from a male perspective and men are willing to work endless hours, women not so much. Its also a job where burn out is very real. You try drinking, fucking, entertaining gringos 8+ hrs a day 5 days a week. Yeah its not "hard labor" but mentally draining.
Dogers69. I get where you are coming from and I have seen some of the reckless throwing of cash at HK. It happens all the time in american strip clubs so why not HK. But I also don't believe its as common of an occurrence as your post make it seem. Just break it down logically. Why would so many chicas be so thirsty for you to take them upstairs if there was so much money raining everywhere? Doesn't add up. As a guy like yourself who was in HK 2-3 times a week for like a year I rarely saw dudes making it rain cash but maybe I just missed it? Its hard to say.
Captain solo. Really agree with your response. With all the competition out there the average and below girls are picking up the scraps.It would be hard to give an average on what the girls make, but imagine $200-$300 a night wouldn't be difficult if you have 2-3 arribas a night plus drinks and tips. Also dating a sex worker would probably be challenging and at times make you feel uneasy. The best advice would be to see if you are comfortable with her working and let her decide if the relationship is worth stopping the work. Most imagine have family or past relationship issues where they have learned to only rely on themselves since they probably have been burned in past by guys or family.
If you can communicate your concerns with her, then I'd imagine you'd get an honest answer if she really cared. Just the fact that she lives with you and spends time with you means she enjoys your company and could potentially lead to more if she hasn't already voiced her interests. Also her not asking you for support or help with money is a positive, but also understand your dilemma of dating as men would tend to get possessive as time goes on. With the "accidents" or homicides lately, it should be a concern you should discuss with her to know what to tell family or friends if something were to happen. It is sadly a potential occupational hazard. Good luck in whatever happens!
That is hot. What cities do you recommend visiting in Sonora?
This was years ago in Nogales. She sent me this photo and much to my surprise it was accurate when she met me in the Fray Marcos Hotel.
Last Friday night around 1 am-2 am I saw / heard amazing Mexican music. The band had about 12 members and features a lot of brass instruments (trumpets, etc). It was really awesome and worth the trade-off of missing the beauties next door at HK.
See photo.
It is worth wandering into Las Chevalas occasionally to see if there is some good live music.With photo attached.
BlackThought
02-24-22, 00:46
This was years ago in Nogales. She sent me this photo and much to my surprise it was accurate when she met me in the Fray Marcos Hotel.Wow. How much did she charge?
BlackThought
02-24-22, 00:48
That fat old guy always spreads out a dozen $2 cheap snack plates on 2 tables and stand around bullshitting with a few girls like he's a hot shot. He's hogging the best tables to the annoyance of others.
To most guys and girls in the club he's just a cheap show off, trying to draw attention to himself to boost his little ego and nothing else. If he really cares about the girls he could tip them discreetly, not having to make it so obvious. He's an annoyance in the club but most girls and guys just ignore him like a cheap shit selfish idiot.So does this fat guy take girls arriba? Sounds stupid to be spending that much $ if he's not fucking them.
I certainly haven't seen wads of dollar bills being rained, but maybe those guys only go on weekends. I use my dollar bills wisely $1-2 per squeeze / feel, $100 lasts me a long time jaja.I didn't recall noticing this make it rain thing till after covid. If there's a correlation I will leave that alone. But now? Its raining like non stop if you are in the middle of the club. The guys at the top above center area must also have tables waiting for them to make it rain. Its really all the time. Its not just the 1 dude. I don't like to describe him as old because he looks my age. And his other physical attributes are non of my business. But he's got some mad money. Like he can't give it away fast enough. In the last 3 months I must of had 60 dollars fall into my own lap and on my shoulders. Of course I throw I throw it on stage since I know they got people watching us. I've seen waiters taking it though and even other girls who weren't the target. Probably customers take some too. I don't know if he's good for the club or not. Well he's good for the big spender because more girls will be at work instead of in Cabo. But he makes me and myb1 dollar tips look pathetic.
Rainman306
02-24-22, 06:32
I'm seeing more talk of HK being the best club in the whole world. There are several factors out there that make me question this.
1. Why a number of guys travel so far to Europe or SE Asia to monger and club go.
2. DFK, BBBJ, and GFE are not the norm and can be hard to get.
3. 20-40% of girls are not really that attractive.
4. There are lots of 8's and 9's, but a true 9. 5 to 10 is uncommon.
4 A. A few years back a major club in St Louis had a grand opening party with at least 20+ 9. 5 or better girls, so it's possible to assemble so much talent in one place at one time.
5. I'd prefer not to be cramped, HK is not big enough for very large crowds.
6. There's no amenities like in FKK clubs.
Elvis 2008
02-24-22, 06:56
I'm seeing more talk of HK being the best club in the whole world. There are several factors out there that make me question this.
1. Why a number of guys travel so far to Europe or SE Asia to monger and club go.
2. DFK, BBBJ, and GFE are not the norm and can be hard to get.
3. 20-40% of girls are not really that attractive.
4. There are lots of 8's and 9's, but a true 9. 5 to 10 is uncommon.
4 A. A few years back a major club in St Louis had a grand opening party with at least 20+ 9. 5 or better girls, so it's possible to assemble so much talent in one place at one time.
5. I'd prefer not to be cramped, HK is not big enough for very large crowds.
6. There's no amenities like in FKK clubs.Rainman,
I really think why some think HKK is the best club has a lot more to do with clubs elsewhere going to shit.
I do not buy it being called the best in the world. HKK may be the best club in North America but it cannot touch Brazil IMO.
I thought there were more 10's in La Isla in Medellin than HKK when I last visited both, but I have heard it is not like that anymore.
The clubs in Montreal used to be great, but now you cannot play in the clubs, and Montreal is now an escort town.
In Dallas and Houston, there were clubs where you could always find a 10 and drop your load but there have been huge crackdowns. You have to go to the tip top clubs and spend huge money to get the equal of what you can find in HKK. Vegas was also great but crazy expensive.
Half the women in Mons Venus 20 years ago in Tampa were 10's but not now. Hell, now you are lucky to see one.
What is great about HKK is that attracts talent from the whole country. All in all, I do not think Mexicans are as attractive as Colombians, Brazilians, Venezuelans, or Argentines, but outside of Brazil, no other country has one place where you can find the best of the best.
All your criticisms are valid, and I have my issues with HKK but it is #1 in North America especially for what you get for your money.
Captain Solo
02-24-22, 07:51
AFAI can see, he only hangs out bullshitting with 2 or 3 girls all night, not kissing, touching or hugging them, like having philosophical conversations with them, then he leaves. He just wants to show off that he has money to spend on cheap snacks, not to take girls to the hotel. He never invites anyone to partake in his snack display, and nobody touches any. They are there all night just for show, a stupid shit show.
In contrary, most guys in the club are nice, fun, friendly, generous and would share the fun also their good stuffs. Occasionally young Mexican-looking guys would sit at a table and drink 1 or 2 bottles by themselves, not watching the show or flirting with girls. Kind of strange. Don't want to know what work they do to blow $500 to $1000 on alcohol in one night. Without my asking, some guys would invite me to shots of Don Julio 70 or 1942. That was how I got to sample these expensive tequilas. The bottle that Speedy sells shots in the club is the cheapest tequila, Don Julio Especial, about $8 in store, tastes slightly sweet. You can buy a Don Julio 70 shot at the bar, $10; 1942 $30, aged only 1 year, no way can they be as smooth, tasty and flavorful compared to even cheap Cognacs.
Last week I was sharing a table in front of the TV with 2 fun guys from Marina del Rey, drinking beers, having fun with the girls. 2 guys from the next table were going home. They gave us their half full Macallan 15 bottle with all the mixers, real nice, fun guys. I took only half a shot with mixer and could really feel a big buzz. That whiskey is way too bitter with a nasty bite. The other 2 guys were drinking it up, feeling good, dancing around, acting funny, falling down on the floor. One guy still did not have enough, he took my wingman's shot and knocked it down. They got so drunk, obviously lost awareness of people and surrounding, then just quietly slipped out of the club, not saying a word. I hope they did not get pulled over by CHP on their drive back to MdR.
Alcohols will cause headache, hang over, digestive problems, destroy your liver, pancrea, intestine, elevate triglyceride level in your blood, causing long-term illnesses. Alcohols also cause the proverbial whiskey dick syndrome. You won't have an erection to show the chicas in the hotel hehe. I don't believe in getting high with alcohol or drugs.
There are many nice, fun, civilized, gentle guys and girls in the club you can have fun with. Don't tangle with stupid trash.
I'm seeing more talk of HK being the best club in the whole world. There are several factors out there that make me question this.
1. Why a number of guys travel so far to Europe or SE Asia to monger and club go.
2. DFK, BBBJ, and GFE are not the norm and can be hard to get..Let me clarify. The HK club is an awesome place to spend time. Seeing so many gals dancing at the same time and grabbing ass for $1.
However, Zona is not great for those who want GFE or who want all night sessions.
GFE and all night sessions are easier to get at a much lower cost in Asia and Columbia, etc.
I'm seeing more talk of HK being the best club in the whole world. There are several factors out there that make me question this.
1. Why a number of guys travel so far to Europe or SE Asia to monger and club go.
2. DFK, BBBJ, and GFE are not the norm and can be hard to get.
3. 20-40% of girls are not really that attractive.
4. There are lots of 8's and 9's, but a true 9. 5 to 10 is uncommon.
4 A. A few years back a major club in St Louis had a grand opening party with at least 20+ 9. 5 or better girls, so it's possible to assemble so much talent in one place at one time..People like the convenience of HK and the zona. Some people don't have thousands to blow on plane ticket to Germany or an Asian country.
LuvMexicanas
02-24-22, 19:40
Wow. How much did she charge?1700 which was kinda high at that time in Nogie.
Cocr Brotheler
02-24-22, 19:45
Never ever have I liked this showing off BS. I like more low key places.
LuvMexicanas
02-24-22, 19:52
That is hot. What cities do you recommend visiting in Sonora?Hermosillo and Obregon are the largest cities but I wouldn't fly to either just to hobby. I will visit cities just to hobby if convenient such as Nogales, Mexicali and Tijuana but to get me on a two hour or more flight I'm looking for more to do than just hobby.
LuvMexicanas
02-24-22, 20:00
Never seen him but it's his money and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. If Hong Kong allows him to hog up tables and occupy numerous chicas, that's their business decision. If you don't like it, don't look in his direction or leave the vicinity.
People like the convenience of HK and the zona. Some people don't have thousands to blow on plane ticket to Germany or an Asian country.Hk is a legendary club! Probably one of the top lady clubs in the world. Maybe put globe in Zurich and scandallo in São Paulo on the list too. That being said, I'm all good on ever going back to Tijuana! Greener pastures and better attitudes from the local lassies await us in Colombia and especially Brazil. I liked HK's proximity to the west coast and it's definitely a user friendly place to monger. My main gripe with HK is the management's questionable marketing tactics. It feels like every time I step in the door the prices have drastically increased. I hate feeling taken advantage of so I vote with my feet. Add to that the hordes of arrogant gringo guys that show up and have clearly Americanized the joint beyond its former recognition. HK has been morphed into just another strip joint, albeit with a Vegas vibe of sorts. The over the top Big spenders and rain makers have me running for the hills. All good here. You guys enjoy. Of course, ymmv. These are just my personal observations.
Cheers from Rio de Janiero! Garotas for the win!
BlackThought
02-24-22, 21:02
I'm seeing more talk of HK being the best club in the whole world. There are several factors out there that make me question this.
1. Why a number of guys travel so far to Europe or SE Asia to monger and club go.
2. DFK, BBBJ, and GFE are not the norm and can be hard to get.
3. 20-40% of girls are not really that attractive.
4. There are lots of 8's and 9's, but a true 9. 5 to 10 is uncommon.
4 A. A few years back a major club in St Louis had a grand opening party with at least 20+ 9. 5 or better girls, so it's possible to assemble so much talent in one place at one time..IMO, FKK clubs are way better than HK club, but I live in California so traveling to Europe is a long flight that also leads to some jet lag.
I got roofied by a puta on my first trip to HK, never had to worry about BS like that at the FKK clubs.
I also don't need to worry about:
Cops tryna extort me.
Border agent tryna scam me with FMM card.
Taxi drivers tryna scam me.
Meseros bugging me for tips.
Clean up guys bugging me for tips.
Girls asking for propina.
Many FKK clubs also provide free food and beer. The entire environment is relaxing and I can spend an entire day there.
Con: they have an entrance fee $50-70 USD.
BlackThought
02-24-22, 21:12
Let me clarify. The HK club is an awesome place to spend time. Seeing so many gals dancing at the same time and grabbing ass for $1.
However, Zona is not great for those who want GFE or who want all night sessions.
GFE and all night sessions are easier to get at a much lower cost in Asia and Columbia, etc.I agree, can get TLN for $200 usd in SEA and Colombia, but they likely won't be as hot as the HK girls.
BlackThought
02-24-22, 21:17
In contrary, most guys in the club are nice, fun, friendly, generous and would share the fun also their good stuffs. Occasionally young Mexican-looking guys would sit at a table and drink 1 or 2 bottles by themselves, not watching the show or flirting with girls. Kind of strange. Don't want to know what work they do to blow $500 to $1000 on alcohol in one night.Could be narcos as Tijuana is a big trafficking hub.
Captain Solo
02-24-22, 21:54
HK has many girls with sexy Northern European bodies, tall, slim flat abs, long legs, with beautiful shapes and curves, perky boobs and curvy butt, fully sexually developed, like Cameroon de Cancun I had a good sessions with last week. They look sexy, elegant, appealing and loveable to most people, as the hot international models all look like them. Guys are naturally attracted to tall, slim girls as they look strong and healthy, fun, happy, good sex drives, satisfying in bed and good to produce and care for babies, also more likely to succeed in their careers.
Asian girls are mostly short, squat, lumpy with droopy boobs and flat butts. Their bodies look out of sexy proportioned, not to mention many Thai girls who look like stunted kids. They would never make it into the international model rank. The girls I took in Thailand all looked sexually unappealing out of their clothes to me, not to mention a few extremely foul dead fish pussies, disgusting. Tall, good-looking Thai girls are likely transsexuals. Bangkok and Pattaya have dinner shows casted by all transsexuals way over made up in outrageous costumes. If you find a few tall, hot Thai girls, they may pack dicks bigger than yours hehe. Have to do Crocodile Dundee's hand greetings and squeeze those crotches hard to verify.
A few years back before government's crack down, China used to have some very pretty girls in KTVs and on streets, but their bodies almost always looked flat, sexually underdeveloped, unattractive.
China's sex dolls industry has progressed far ahead of Japan and US in the last few years. Their doll makers have been able to sculpt some of the most beautiful, sexually attractive bodies and the prettiest faces. Allegedly they hire the most beautiful models and cast full-body molds down to the most intimate details. They also sculpted the prettiest faces of all races and make the most beautiful, sexy, realistic-looking adult-size dolls for the lowest prices in the world. It's hard for US and Japan's doll makers to compete. With the shortage of women in China, reportedly 60% of Chinese males between 20 to 40 own sex dolls. The pic is a doll known as Hedi, manufactured in China for a number of brands using different names.
Sexdollcenter. VIP in LOS Angeles sells some of the most beautiful dolls of all sizes, shapes and ethnic backgrounds. Check the dolls out to figure out which types of faces and bodies you are attracted to. The dolls' bodies made of medical-grade Thermo Plastic Elastomer (TPE) feel just like soft, spongy skin and flesh of healthy, fit, young girls. Warning: the dolls may be addictive. I am not surprised lonely guys developed intimate relationships with their dolls, talk to them, make passionate love hehe.
Japan has been trying to move to upscale doll market with expensive AI sex dolls that can learn and talk, bu who the F want to discuss science and philosophy with beautiful girls or dolls hehe.
Just to be clear, I am not working for any doll business, just trying to help the bros out. Instead of wasting time and money dealing with prostitutes in the US, risking arrests, convictions, prison, lost jobs, severe penalties, destroying relationships, guys who have no ready access to sex partners or Tijuana girls should look into these dolls, or any sex aids, to meet their needs. Women have been using their vibrators and all sorts of kinky sex toys for years to satisfy their sex drives. Why shouldn't you?
Never ever have I liked this showing off BS. I like more low key places.I am happy to have big spenders in the club. Even if they are flaunting it.
The more they spend on gals and the club the happier the girls and club owners are. All good.
Less they are under pressure to squeeze money from others in the club.
People like the convenience of HK and the zona. Some people don't have thousands to blow on plane ticket to Germany or an Asian country.It's not like we go ever 2 weeks.
Save up.
Thailand will be nice this summer with no Russians there.
Mezzalaquita1
02-24-22, 23:23
Hello,
I'm very curious about experiences and stories in the past of STI or STD? Are girls are Hong Kong fairly clean? I went without condom a few weeks ago and plan on getting tested in a month. No symptoms I am just curious.
Cocr Brotheler
02-25-22, 00:52
Never seen him but it's his money and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. If Hong Kong allows him to hog up tables and occupy numerous chicas, that's their business decision. If you don't like it, don't look in his direction or leave the vicinity.That phat bastard better be careful unless he is cartel cause he is bringing a lot of attention to himself.
Problem is that is so phat he is everyone's site of view LOL! I not big fan of Hk anymore anyways due to violence on the chicas so I AM exploring other options believe you me!
Also doesn't bother me to view view this. I just pissed because it even more over inflates the hottest chicas ego so why they even want to go arriba? This stuff why I don't like U.S. strip clubs either. I am a value oriented brothel monger or SW monger.
Hello,
I'm very curious about experiences and stories in the past of STI or STD? Are girls are Hong Kong fairly clean? I went without condom a few weeks ago and plan on getting tested in a month. No symptoms I am just curious.I had a few condom accidents with street girls at zona over the years and never had any consequences (so far). Hope my luck holds.
I had a condom accident at a Vancouver massage parlor once and definitely experienced issues.
BlackThought
02-25-22, 02:44
This HK chica makes a lot.
China's sex dolls industry has progressed far ahead of Japan and US in the last few years. Their doll makers have been able to sculpt some of the most beautiful, sexually attractive bodies and the prettiest faces. Allegedly they hire the most beautiful models and cast full-body molds down to the most intimate details. They also sculpted the prettiest faces of all races and make the most beautiful, sexy, realistic-looking adult-size dolls for the lowest prices in the world. It's hard for US and Japan's doll makers to compete. With the shortage of women in China, reportedly 60% of Chinese males between 20 to 40 own sex dolls. The pic is a doll known as Hedi, manufactured in China for a number of brands using different names.
Sexdollcenter. VIP in LOS Angeles sells some of the most beautiful dolls of all sizes, shapes and ethnic backgrounds. Check the dolls out to figure out which types of faces and bodies you are attracted to. The dolls' bodies made of medical-grade Thermo Plastic Elastomer (TPE) feel just like soft, spongy skin and flesh of healthy, fit, young girls. Warning: the dolls may be addictive. I am not surprised lonely guys developed intimate relationships with their dolls, talk to them, make passionate love hehe.
Japan has been trying to move to upscale doll market with expensive AI sex dolls that can learn and talk, bu who the F want to discuss science and philosophy with beautiful girls or dolls hehe.Sex dolls are great if only the could cook and clean too.
AerodinamicDog
02-25-22, 06:58
Sex dolls are great if only the could cook and clean too.Basically all AB girls could pass as sex dolls then.
Always learning a bit more down in Tijuana no matter how many times I go.
Got a street girl a week ago for $60 which I know was too much but she extended the normal 20 minutes to 30 so I "thought" that was nice.
What I didn't realize is she had nice legs but you couldn't see much more of her body. It wasn't "bad" but not great.
I thought 15 or 20 minutes is just too short but now rethinking that and with a bit of Viagra. 15 or 20 is just about right for a first time as you may not be "into" the girl that much once you see her naked.
So next time. I will take the shorter time the first time with someone to see if you really like her as it's a bit of a roll of the dice on the street girls.
May go down this weekend if others are heading down and want to connect up.
G.
I really really liked this girl. Last weeks honey. What is SO odd is she is not my typical body type as I like them on the thin side and this girl had a little bigger curves but she was so frikin sexy. Just everything about her and so sweet and easy going. After fucking up stairs we went downstairs again and had a drink in Chavellas. I had two phones with me and gave her one and we chatted back and forth with google translate just talking about her world a bit and getting to know her a little. She was willing to come down to $80 which was cool of her as well. I blurred out her face a bit but you get the idea. Haha.
G.
Captain Solo
02-25-22, 17:22
SpeedToys,
We want to party, have exciting fun and hot sex with hot, fun, sweet, sexy, pretty, beautiful young girls in Tijuana at least once every week, not sitting on our asses on Kamikaze Airlines 26 hours to hang out with rude, ugly, nasty Thai girls with droopy boobs, saggy butts, bad breath, dead fish pussies or huge, stiff dicks, once every few years. Bar girls and escorts in Bangkok and Pattaya are mostly crude, thick, low life farm girls with hardened, weathered faces, leathery skin and loose, rotten pussies. If they suit your taste, good for you.
In S E Asia, I would rather go to casas where locals find new girls with natural assets, not heavily made up, implanted, polished and trained like slick bar girls, but they are more real and tender, unlike nasty, greedy money-grabbing bar beasts.
Some noobs went with me to Tijuana, got hooked on the sexy chicas, immediately came back 3,4 times a week, taking their cousins from out of state hehe.
I am about to do a tour of South East Asia, waiting for a few more months for more girls to come back to their bars. A couple noobs may be going. I don't expect to find much or anything among ugly, hardened bar girls, more like a culture and adventure tour to meet and party with people, good food, exploration, nature, ocean sports etc. Noobs can screw ugly bar girls, I don't care.
"rude, ugly, nasty Thai girls with droopy boobs, saggy butts, bad breath, dead fish pussies or huge, stiff dicks".
When you say shit like this, I -very quickly- begin to discount that you have ever been.
You read like the back of a postcard about a bad movie.
"Lets see how many BS tropes about a place a can throw out and sound informative. ".
"rude, ugly, nasty Thai girls with droopy boobs, saggy butts, bad breath, dead fish pussies or huge, stiff dicks".
When you say shit like this, I -very quickly- begin to discount that you have ever been.
You read like the back of a postcard about a bad movie.
"Lets see how many BS tropes about a place a can throw out and sound informative..You're learning quickly! LOL.
BlackThought
02-25-22, 21:23
SpeedToys,
We want to party, have exciting fun and hot sex with hot, fun, sweet, sexy, pretty, beautiful young girls in Tijuana at least once every week, not sitting on our asses on Kamikaze Airlines 26 hours to hang out with rude, ugly, nasty Thai girls with droopy boobs, saggy butts, bad breath, dead fish pussies or huge, stiff dicks, once every few years. Bar girls and escorts in Bangkok and Pattaya are mostly crude, thick, low life farm girls with hardened, weathered faces, leathery skin and loose, rotten pussies. If they suit your taste, good for you.
In S E Asia, I would rather go to casas where locals find new girls with natural assets, not heavily made up, implanted, polished and trained like slick bar girls, but they are more real and tender, unlike nasty, greedy money-grabbing bar beasts.
Some noobs went with me to Tijuana, got hooked on the sexy chicas, immediately came back 3,4 times a week, taking their cousins from out of state hehe.I think it's more common to find fishy pussy in Mexico than it is in Thailand. Very common for Thais to shower 3-4 x day due to the hot and humid weather, they also grow up using bidets to wash their pussy after they pee vs Mexicans / Americans that smear that urine all over their pussy with a toilet paper. As for looks, Thai girls are pretty ugly; I prefer Vietnamese. Avoid the bar girls, go hit the soapy.
LuvMexicanas
02-26-22, 02:02
You're learning quickly! LOL.Speedy, what took you so long? LMAO.
Mezzalaquita1
02-26-22, 03:35
I had a few condom accidents with street girls at zona over the years and never had any consequences (so far). Hope my luck holds.
I had a condom accident at a Vancouver massage parlor once and definitely experienced issues.Ok cool that is reassuring thank you for replying. I forget her name but she definitely let me bareback and taste her pussy. She was super fine and plastic. I shouldn't have had so much tequila. I plan on going back I just want to make sure that the establishment is clean and vetted. Which it seems to be.
Any other reassurance would be appreciated I plan on getting tested soon.
You're learning quickly! LOL.I've ignored it when it wasn't quite this deep.
"rude, ugly, nasty Thai girls with droopy boobs, saggy butts, bad breath, dead fish pussies or huge, stiff dicks".
When you say shit like this, I -very quickly- begin to discount that you have ever been.
You read like the back of a postcard about a bad movie.
"Lets see how many BS tropes about a place a can throw out and sound informative..Walking street in Pattaya had some pretty stunning ladies. Also they sure know how to "take care" of a man if you LT. The bad breath could be due to food they just ate, but isn't that anyone that eats? I can't wait to get back one day after all of these restrictions are lifted.
I really really liked this girl. Last weeks honey. What is SO odd is she is not my typical body type as I like them on the thin side and this girl had a little bigger curves but she was so frikin sexy. Just everything about her and so sweet and easy going. After fucking up stairs we went downstairs again and had a drink in Chavellas. I had two phones with me and gave her one and we chatted back and forth with google translate just talking about her world a bit and getting to know her a little. She was willing to come down to $80 which was cool of her as well. I blurred out her face a bit but you get the idea. Haha..I was with you when you met her and had the first drink with her. I agree she was very friendly and nice.
I enjoyed feeling her soft skin.
Congrats on the great session you had with her.
Always learning a bit more down in Tijuana no matter how many times I go.
Got a street girl a week ago for $60 which I know was too much but she extended the normal 20 minutes to 30 so I "thought" that was nice..Greg you paid too much.
Negotiate in pesos to lower costs.
600-800 pesos for 30 minutes.
1200-1500 pesos for 1 HR.
For girls you want to lower risk with then 30 minutes is right. That's what I did during many of my sessions last week.
You can always enjoy a girl for 30 minutes by doing things with both of you facing her front. Less risk of disappointment when looking at them from the back.
Ok cool that is reassuring thank you for replying. I forget her name but she definitely let me bareback and taste her pussy. She was super fine and plastic. I shouldn't have had so much tequila. I plan on going back I just want to make sure that the establishment is clean and vetted. Which it seems to be.
Any other reassurance would be appreciated I plan on getting tested soon.It is Russian roulette in the bareback game. You could be any number of clients that day, week or month that she did bare. Hope it was some good tequila at least.
"rude, ugly, nasty Thai girls with droopy boobs, saggy butts, bad breath, dead fish pussies or huge, stiff dicks".
When you say shit like this, I -very quickly- begin to discount that you have ever been.
You read like the back of a postcard about a bad movie.
"Lets see how many BS tropes about a place a can throw out and sound informative. ".That's just El Capitan taking liberties so as to add color to his posts. I enjoy them greatly, but I always take them with mucho skepticism.
In this case, I've met some absolutely gorgeous Thai women.
Fact-Check FAIL!
Captain Solo
02-27-22, 22:26
These guys would screw anything ugly creatures that crawl and think they are pretty.
They also like tall girls with huge dicks.
Damn low-brow taste.
That's just El Capitan taking liberties so as to add color to his posts. I enjoy them greatly, but I always take them with mucho skepticism.
In this case, I've met some absolutely gorgeous Thai women.
Fact-Check fail!
That's just El Capitan taking liberties so as to add color to his posts. I enjoy them greatly, but I always take them with mucho skepticism.
In this case, I've met some absolutely gorgeous Thai women.I've lost track of the number of times I've been to Thailand and surrounding countries. Anybody who knows anything about Thai culture knows the Thais absolutely hate bad smells. Noise is no problem, but a bad smell? That's a problem. I have never, ever, experienced a Thai lady who wasn't squeaky clean and fresh smelling. The only "bad" smell I've ever experienced was sometimes their breath after a meal of Som Tam. No problem, I learned to love the stuff and we now neutralize each other. LOL.
Captain Solo
03-01-22, 02:41
Went in HK with 2 noobs around 6 PM. The club was already packed, main floor plus Chavelas and the Hamgar annex, could not find an empty table. Got a Bohemia beer and wandered around a bit. Finally a cool guy with his bar girl shared a table with us. Frieda, Lydia and a few hot ones were working, but not too many new hot girls like last week.
Sat and watched the strip show. Girls were dancing on stage, bar and platforms. 2 lesbos were rolling around in the foam on the South stage. Alesha was stripping, a tall, slim girl with light skin, long, wavy blonde hair, her nose high and crooked. She would look a lot prettier with a small nose job. Cindy was stripping, cute like a doll, her tight, toned, tatted body has been plum up after coVid. She has tattoos all over her plum body, told me flat out she liked girls and talk to me plainly like one guy to another hehe.
A few bros showed up and found us, Jack, Greg, Jim found his friend Alex. We were drinking, exchanging latest infos. I pointed out young, tall, lithe Frieda, dancing with her trim and beautiful body in her red bikini on the pole, her face pretty and innocent with black-frame eye glasses. A bro said she was beautiful but her service terrible. Noob said he could not see that far away, had to get closer to see her up close.
Got the 2 tables in front of the giant TV so everyone could sit. Shared the table with a couple young, fun guys we met last week in Tropical. They were having a fun time, bought a beer for each of us. Chicas were leaning against the couch, rubbing their bubble butts on our heads. A noob pulled a girl for a ficha. In about 20 minutes meseros claimed tables were reserved, asked us to vacate. They did find and move us to another table next to the South stage.
Noob bought drinks and food for his chica. She spoke adequate English, sitting on his lap, doing a slow and sexy lap dance, his first girl ever in Mexico. Noob was falling in love. They soon departed for the hotel.
Found out we had to vacate our tables for the Fat Fuck with his shit show of cheap snacks spread out over 2 tables. He was standing around talking stupid shit with 3 chicas. Looked like be bought 3 bottles, but they stayed unopened in the buckets and he did not drink from any, just standing around like a cross-eyed retarded loser. How did he afford couple hundreds dollar worth of liquor in the bar and not drinking from any, is a big question. I just don't see hard-working legit people, making money the legal ways, wasting money that stupid way. He dresses, looks and acts like a low life. Real people with serious money have no need to show off like these stupid, cheap fakes. Even though he just looks retarded, not evil or threatening, he's likely engaging in illegal activities to make quick money. Keeps showing off like he really has money and he will be a good target for kidnap and torture by real cartel guys, or the crafty DEA guys will find ways to legally steal all his money.
Cartel guys look normal like the average people but are capable of extreme cruelty and evil life styles. I have seen cartel guys laughing, taking beers and food liberally from restaurants without paying; owners only shook their heads in resignation. Looking to Rambo to fire off an official complaint to HK's supreme owners to stop this stupid monkey show.
Noob ran into a few friends in HK; they plied him a couple liquor shots as usual. He's into some serious group sex locally, also overseas. He wanted real blonde with pink nipples, bagged 2 HK girls for the night, complained they all had dark nipples. Valentina on the street has wavy blonde hair, perky real boobs with pink nipples and her signature sexy service, but he did not want to take her.
The bros bought me too many beers. After drinking a while my body settled into a state of lazy bliss, did not feel the need to conquer half a dozen girls for the night. Had a fun time hanging out with the bros and the excitements of hunting for the sweetest preys.
Met Kika (kica?) and she started a general convo not to hook me. Just some friendly banter. I immediately notice an Asian look to her. She was friendly and joking w me so I said wth and bought her a fecha. After the standard info exchange she said the usual 100 for 30 min. We agreed on 70 and it's a go. I started muff diving and she starts pushing my head deeper. Within 5 min, she squirts and I'm like WTF? Finished in doggy and asks her to warn me next time.
The squirter. She sounds like she smokes a pack a day but very sensual.
Captain Solo
03-02-22, 00:46
A few HK girls are known for squirting. Diabetics and overweight people are known to have bladder control problems. The putas would just piss out a big stream when sexually aroused.
Getting peed on the face is filthy. Some guys think it's sexy, but just filthy and unhealthy to me. Some guys even pay premiums to eat out putas' culos.
The little girl Cecilia is known for squirting 5 to 6 times during a session. Cascada's beds stink. Check the sheets and bed covers for fluids before laying you asses down in them.
Went in HK with 2 noobs around 6 PM. The club was already packed, main floor plus Chavelas and the Hamgar annex, could not find an empty table. Got a Bohemia beer and wandered around a bit. Finally a cool guy with his bar girl shared a table with us. Frieda, Lydia and a few hot ones were working, but not too many new hot girls like last week.
Sat and watched the strip show. Girls were dancing on stage, bar and platforms. 2 lesbos were rolling around in the foam on the South stage. Alesha was stripping, a tall, slim girl with light skin, long, wavy blonde hair, her nose high and crooked. She would look a lot prettier with a small nose job. Cindy was stripping, cute like a doll, her tight, toned, tatted body has been plum up after coVid. She has tattoos all over her plum body, told me flat out she liked girls and talk to me plainly like one guy to another hehe.
A few bros showed up and found us, Jack, Greg, Jim found his friend Alex. We were drinking, exchanging latest infos. I pointed out young, tall, lithe Frieda, dancing with her trim and beautiful body in her red bikini on the pole, her face pretty and innocent with black-frame eye glasses. A bro said she was beautiful but her service terrible. Noob said he could not see that far away, had to get closer to see her up close.
Got the 2 tables in front of the giant TV so everyone could sit. Shared the table with a couple young, fun guys we met last week in Tropical. They were having a fun time, bought a beer for each of us. Chicas were leaning against the couch, rubbing their bubble butts on our heads. A noob pulled a girl for a ficha. In about 20 minutes meseros claimed tables were reserved, asked us to vacate. They did find and move us to another table next to the South stage.
Noob bought drinks and food for his chica. She spoke adequate English, sitting on his lap, doing a slow and sexy lap dance, his first girl ever in Mexico. Noob was falling in love. They soon departed for the hotel..I went to hk only 20, 30 minutes a night, the prior 3 months, 3 days week. Saw this guy probably every time. I would assume he goes every night. Sometimes with his buddies. Once he saw me looking at him. I made sure to never look at that whole end of bar again. Someone with that kind of money can have al of us chopped up and mailed back home. So I don't comment on whatever he looks like, dresses like, as its not a gay club. None of my business. And to be fair, unless you really need that table, he's not exactly taking anything important up. There's so many girls around. My concern if banging hk girls was still in my budget, I'd wonder if this dude spreading 2 to 20 k a night in singles is 1 of the reasons the girls can't be bothered with sex for anything less than 80,90, 100 dollars. But I think its best not to insult him on here, but maybe question how his $$ changes the dynamics.
Found out we had to vacate our tables for the Fat Fuck with his shit show of cheap snacks spread out over 2 tables. He was standing around talking stupid shit with 3 chicas. Looked like be bought 3 bottles, but they stayed unopened in the buckets and he did not drink from any, just standing around like a cross-eyed retarded loser. How did he afford couple hundreds dollar worth of liquor in the bar and not drinking from any, is a big question. I just don't see hard-working legit people, making money the legal ways, wasting money that stupid way. He dresses, looks and acts like a low life. Real people with serious money have no need to show off like these stupid, cheap fakes. Even though he just looks retarded, not evil or threatening, he's likely engaging in illegal activities to make quick money. Keeps showing off like he really has money and he will be a good target for kidnap and torture by real cartel guys, or the crafty DEA guys will find ways to legally steal all his money.I was in the club on Sunday night and the fat guy was there popping bottles again, this time partying with a HK girl dressed in street clothes and sporting an engagement ring. So the good news is there's a chance you won't see him in the club so often. The bad news is in all likelihood you will, because I've seen this guy go back and forth with this same girl countless times over the course of the last several months.
I have been following this guy's favorite girl on Instagram. At first I noticed he was buying her gifts that were much more expensive than what typically gets discussed here, including jewelry and multiple brand name items in the $1-3 k range. Then I saw her post that he bought her a car. A couple months later he bought her another car. A couple months ago it escalated and he put a ring on her finger.
The thing is, she "breaks up" with him about every other week, removing her Instagram posts of all the gifts and vacations and moving the ring to the wrong finger, only to end up back with him shortly thereafter. When she's done with him she's usually right back working at the club.
The cartel guys don't need to get him, this girl is robbing him blind and posting it all over social media. Let this be a lesson to everyone that no matter how much you spend on these girls they'll just keep stringing you along until you're dead broke.
If you really want to get back at this guy on a personal level, all you really need is some good timing and $100, and you can bang his high maintenance future wife while she's on a break from him.
SomeDude321
03-02-22, 06:44
I was in the club on Sunday night and the fat guy was there popping bottles again, this time partying with a HK girl dressed in street clothes and sporting an engagement ring. So the good news is there's a chance you won't see him in the club so often. The bad news is in all likelihood you will, because I've seen this guy go back and forth with this same girl countless times over the course of the last several months.
I have been following this guy's favorite girl on Instagram. At first I noticed he was buying her gifts that were much more expensive than what typically gets discussed here, including jewelry and multiple brand name items in the $1-3 k range. Then I saw her post that he bought her a car. A couple months later he bought her another car. A couple months ago it escalated and he put a ring on her finger.
The thing is, she "breaks up" with him about every other week, removing her Instagram posts of all the gifts and vacations and moving the ring to the wrong finger, only to end up back with him shortly thereafter. When she's done with him she's usually right back working at the club.
The cartel guys don't need to get him, this girl is robbing him blind and posting it all over social media. Let this be a lesson to everyone that no matter how much you spend on these girls they'll just keep stringing you along until you're dead broke..Call me cynical, but I'm assuming that's every working girl in HK.
Even the down the earth ones, it you talk to them long enough, are only in it for the money.
If you go in there with any other expectation, it's on you.
The more I read the HK board or street walker board the more I see how bad and overpriced these girls are getting now compared to escorts. At least with escorts you don't have to deal with waiters or girls that don't shower after they are with a client. Never mind having sex in those awful rooms. When I first started going to Tijuana it was 60 for a girl plus 11 for a room. Then I discovered escorts and haven't been with a HK girl since. I remember getting girls from escort agencies for 75 to 100, and they were attractive. 125 seems to be the going rate now but it's still better than HK for 100 for 30 minutes.
Once he saw me looking at him. I made sure to never look at that whole end of bar again.
And to be fair, unless you really need that table, he's not exactly taking anything important up.
There's so many girls around. My concern if banging hk girls was still in my budget, I'd wonder if this dude spreading 2 to 20 k a night in singles is 1 of the reasons the girls can't be bothered with sex for anything less than 80,90, 100 dollarsI agree the tables he is taking up is not a huge deal. Though they are the best location. He could take a booth in the back or upstairs if he didn't want all us guys to also be aware of this actions. So I am not afraid of being seen by him because he is not trying to be discrete himself. He probably wants to be watched and admired for his generosity.
I agree he only has a few girls compared to the total girls in the club. And no I do not think that affects the rates.
The girls were charging the same before he showed up and any given evening most girls are not benefitting from him.
Everyone's obsession with the fat dude with money is getting a little weird. Really it is. I saw him a couple of times. But he's just another dude with money.
Captain Solo
03-02-22, 18:49
Mongers should know, putas all over the world are money grabbing low lifes who will pull any dirty tricks, lie, steal, rob to feed their cravings for luxury goods like that will make them high -class, their hungry, nagging children and old, geriatric parents, plus their useless, unemployed, mooching boyfriend's huge appetites for booze, good food, fancy vacations and illegal drugs.
A lot tide on the backs of putas. They are the absolute opposites of Princess Diana and Mother Teresa, are not there to give mongers charity, unselfish love and free sex. Mongers will never be cute enough to get anything free from putas.
Mongers are targeted and played by everyone in the sex industry to be cleaned out for the privilege of having some fake affection and sticking their dicks in rotten, dead fish pussies. As long as mongers understand they are trading money for some sexy time with putas, hopefully in agreeable and equitable manners, they can deal with putas with honesty.
Captain Solo
03-02-22, 19:04
Not the One.
This stupid retarded Fat Fuck repeated his shit show 2 nights in a row?
He and his putas were not sitting at those tables. They chased other clients off to stage his cheap, stupid show off. He does not have to try any harder to convince the other clients what a stupid, phony, cheap show off he is. The rest of the clients are civilized, considerate and upright people. They seem disgusted by this fat fuck's cheap theatrics. He should take his stupid romancing where he's not annoying and inconveniencing others.
As long as Hong Kong allows cheap, stupid fakes to inconvenience and disgust other clients, it's not a gentlemen's club as it claims, but a cheap, stupid hang out for retarded low life's to stage their cheap, phony, stupid theatrics.
El Guerito
03-02-22, 20:04
Not the One.
This stupid retarded Fat Fuck repeated his shit show 2 nights in a row?
He and his putas were not sitting at those tables. They chased other clients off to stage his cheap, stupid show off. He does not have to try any harder to convince the other clients what a stupid, phony, cheap show off he is. The rest of the clients are civilized, considerate and upright people. They seem disgusted by this fat fuck's cheap theatrics. He should take his stupid romancing where he's not annoying and inconveniencing others.
As long as Hong Kong allows cheap, stupid fakes to inconvenience and disgust other clients, it's not a gentlemen's club as it claims, but a cheap, stupid hang out for retarded low life's to stage their cheap, phony, stupid theatrics.Not sure exactly what happened but he was there again Tuesday night. There was a big fight and some guy cracked his head open. Security beat the crap out of the guy that did it and escorted him out of the club. The fat dude had a gash on his head and for a few hours employees were watching him and making sure he was okay. He really should have gone to the hospital. Not sure of the reason, but heard that maybe some guy was jealous that the fat dude was with his favorite girl or something.
In addition to kicking other clientele out of his favorite spot, he also has a tendency to take up large amounts of time on the main stage showering his chosen few girls with cash as compensation for spending time with him. While this normally wouldn't be an issue, the problem is that the club changes the music to some weird Arabic music for 15-20 minutes and lets this dude flop his belly around on stage. It messes up the party vibe on the main floor because nobody is into the music, and the poor souls seated at the main stage are stuck staring straight up at his gut for what seems like an eternity.
Not sure exactly what happened but he was there again Tuesday night. There was a big fight and some guy cracked his head open. Security beat the crap out of the guy that did it and escorted him out of the club. The fat dude had a gash on his head and for a few hours employees were watching him and making sure he was okay. He really should have gone to the hospital. Not sure of the reason, but heard that maybe some guy was jealous that the fat dude was with his favorite girl or something.I am really sad to hear someone was violent with him.
I am also sad to see the anger and vitriol against him here.
From my perspective he does no harm and is ultra-generous to the girls (and club) - so let him be.
In a way he is sponsoring the show for the rest of us.
Captain Solo
03-03-22, 00:40
El Guerito,
I have solid alibi that I was with my friends all Tuesday, so I was not involved in the fight, hehe.
The fat guy went way overboard, trying to show off his money, like a retard. The retard does not know guys and girls in the club are just disgusted with his stupid, phony theatrics.
He keeps showing off his phony generosity like he's cute. No surprise he pissed off a lot of people.
I have seen a guy beat another over the head bloody with a broken beer bottle. Security guys and half a dozen meseros quickly tackled and pinned him down on the ground, put him in head lock, dragged him out of the club and presumably called policia. I have seen the rough, old floor manager Luis from East LA rough up a local guy, shoving him against the wall, searching his pockets for cameras. He also roughed up and demanded kick backs from meseros. He was soon demoted to mesero and eventually fired. But I have never seen HK meseros beat up anyone in the club, which would potentially expose personnel and HK to reprisals and legal liabilities. Back in about 2010 HK's young security manager evicted an asshole who claimed to be a hot shot official for Tijuana city hall, he came back the sam weight with a gun and shot the guy dead at the back door.
HK and Mexico in general are a rough world. Enjoy what you can but don't tangle with stupid trash. Don't count on security guys and meseros to protect you in any fight. Don't count on people on the street to protect or intervene if you get beat up or robbed on the street. Otherwise Mexicans in general are nice, gentle, considerate, civilized people, except a few retards.
Captain Solo
03-03-22, 00:45
NotTheOne,
Hong Kong keeps giving this fat slob special treatments. The bottles he allegedly ordered were never opened. They stayed intact in the bucket. What's going on?
If they play special music for him to go on stage doing his stupid shit, he may be a set up by the club, urging guys to spend money and tip the girls.
Guys and girls are disgusted with his retarded act.
I am really sad to hear someone was violent with him.
I am also sad to see the anger and vitriol against him here.
From my perspective he does no harm and is ultra-generous to the girls (and club) - so let him be.
In a way he is sponsoring the show for the rest of us.I actually heard that The Whale got violent first last night, by punching a guy just because he was talking to one of the 6-7 girls The Whale had apparently claimed as his own for the night. Security actually kicked the guy out on The Whale's orders when this happened. Unfortunately for The Whale, the guy was able to sneak back in the club and open his head up with a right hook.
Guys and girls are disgusted with his retarded act.Well. You are.
Never been to a strip club before?
I am really sad to hear someone was violent with him.
I am also sad to see the anger and vitriol against him here.
From my perspective he does no harm and is ultra-generous to the girls (and club) - so let him be.
In a way he is sponsoring the show for the rest of us.I didn't write anything on here about him for first 2 months because I found him perplexing but not necessarily annoying. I don't even recall that he smokes. And he wears like clothes you can buy in target. If it was 1 of those LA dudes, who roll in Saturday nights, all spiffed up, smoking cigars, I'd find him really annoying I suppose. I spent a lot of time thinking, does he work for HK? But if hk wanted to give the girls money by throwing at them wouldn't they pick different guys not just him. But if he doesn't work for HK, how come I never see him in the other bars? And every night? Does he take any nights off. I met a young guy burning drug money in HK 6 weeks ago. He wanted me to help him spend his money so I did my best. I wish this guy would need some help.
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