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MarksOfMagic
03-03-22, 18:29
I actually heard that The Whale got violent first last night, by punching a guy just because he was talking to one of the 6-7 girls The Whale had apparently claimed as his own for the night. Security actually kicked the guy out on The Whale's orders when this happened. Unfortunately for The Whale, the guy was able to sneak back in the club and open his head up with a right hook.I was there on Tuesday night with my buddies and saw this fat dude. We couldn't really hate on this guy initially, We had a blast just clowning him especially when we saw that big ass blue balloon floating over his head similar to the size of his belly. It was a really big balloon. He did have about 6 good looking girls with him and the sparklers that were lit every time they brought out buckets of water bottles attracted alot of the attention. There were more than enough girls to go around so we didn't have a problem with it- just found him funny.

What killed it for us was when he started requesting songs that just killed our vibe. We all looked up like wtf is goin on. Everyone's vibe was thrown off in the club and you look at the fat dude with the blue balloon, he's the only mf enjoying it. The girls on stage don't even know how to move to it. Should be A rule where you can only request strip clubish songs if you know what I mean. We finished our drinks and headed to Adelitas. Would have been interesting to witness what transpired after we had left.

Cocr Brotheler
03-03-22, 18:30
Remember what I posted a couple weeks ago about this drawing attention to himself.

I never would want harm on him however he did unfortunately attract attention (and the wrong kind). I feel bad for him.

Rambo1969
03-03-22, 19:49
But if hk wanted to give the girls money by throwing at them wouldn't they pick different guys not just him. But if he doesn't work for HK, how come I never see him in the other bars? And every night? Does he take any nights off..It would be stupid of HK to hire someone to throw so much money and occupy that space & girls.

So, I have high confidence he does not work for HK.

I never go to other bars either.

Once you have seen all the bars. There is no need to go to any other bar other than HK.

HK provides the best experience for me & probably most people in this forum.

Captain Solo
03-03-22, 22:08
NotTheOne.

Most people in HK are considerate of others' needs and wants. They usually share the fun, space, tables, drinks with others. My wingmen and I have been bought or offered beers and expensive liquor shots quite a few times, very nice gestures of friendship that we truly appreciate.

For this fat guy to take 2 best booths in the club, not sitting in them, spread out cheap-shit snacks, hold a few chicas captive, get on stage to show off whatever he thinks he has, is just blatantly uncivilized and retarded. If he battered some guys over chicas whom he thinks were his exclusives, that's criminal. HK and its meseros should be ashamed to side with him. He should be prosecuted and punished accordingly.

The victims should also sue HK civilly and criminally for letting this crime happen. HK has a lot of cash and assets on hand. HK and its owners can be made liable. I have ready a few aggressive, hot-shot transnational attorneys who would love to take on cases like this.

Tinny2000
03-04-22, 00:30
Went to HK Wed and met an African Mexican. Went arriba after negotiation.

In the room, she asked: do you like drugs?

No.

Do you like alcohol?

I replied no again.

But after cleaning, found she was smoking. Highly suspect she was using drugs.

She lay on bed, closed eyes, smoking and enjoying it.

I got pissed off with it since I a nonsmoker. In particular, do not want to get involved in illegal issues. Asked her to stop it immediately.

Even worse, in her period, her pussy smelled terribly.

Totally lost interest. Tried to talk to the front desk who are familiar with me, but got stopped by security. Later many people came. I just explained it.

While talking with the manager. The manager said I got other issues in the past. I always put it in writing my terms on a note and showed it to girls including pay after service. Most are fine, but 2 cases, girls changed mind once in room, ask pay before service. I just quitted it immediately and talked to the front desk who are familiar with me. They can even talk with the security and it can help a lot. Actually, I knew quite some staff, unfortunately, most of them left now.

I pay 80-100 6 years ago, but got cheated a few times. Now, I just pay base $1000 MXN after service, as captain solo did, with tips over $600 MXN for good service. I can repeat it with my fav girls before pandemic, but not now. It seems they just stay very short, 1 week, 10 days or 2 weeks now, and I can hardly locate them again.

We all come here for fun. But bad moods with unpleasant issues. Not a trouble maker, still pay gas 50 dollars a trip, not to mention time and energy wasted. That is why I would not endure it any more. If a girl cheats & makes me unhappy, I would do the same.

I didn't mention her smoking drug, not sure of the evidence, afraid too complicated. What will you do if yr girl might be using drugs? Go out immediately?

Be careful with this Afro Mexicana from Veracruz. Her name sounds like Kalinka.

Baxter Slade
03-04-22, 00:50
I pretty much avoid HK. But all this talk about the fat guy sounds entertaining. I will have to stop in to see the show.

BlackThought
03-04-22, 03:51
I didn't mention her smoking drug, not sure of the evidence, afraid too complicated. What will you do if yr girl might be using drugs? Go out immediately?

Be careful with this Afro Mexicana from Veracruz. Her name sounds like Kalinka.I smoke my stiizy vape with the HK chicas in the room LOL. It's just weed, not a big deal. Did you buy her a ficha to feel her out before you took her arriba?

BlackThought
03-04-22, 03:53
Remember what I posted a couple weeks ago about this drawing attention to himself.

I never would want harm on him however he did unfortunately attract attention (and the wrong kind). I feel bad for him.I don't feel bad for him. Flaunting money like that in a place like Tijuana is just asking for trouble.

Rambo1969
03-04-22, 05:28
I got pissed off with it since I a nonsmoker. In particular, do not want to get involved in illegal issues. Asked her to stop it immediately.

Even worse, in her period, her pussy smelled terribly.

Totally lost interest. Tried to talk to the front desk who are familiar with me, but got stopped by security. Later many people came. I just explained it.
I always put it in writing my terms on a note and showed it to girls including pay after service. Most are fine, but 2 cases, girls changed mind once in room, ask pay before service. I just quitted it immediately and talked to the front desk who are familiar with me. They can even talk with the security and it can help a lot. Actually, I knew quite some staff, unfortunately, most of them left no.Can you post a photo of your note with your terms?

I too negotiate everything up front and do not pay up-front. This way if you initially sense anything wrong you can end for a small fee or no fee depending on the circumstance. I usually say "todo" or "servico completo" and tell them I want to kiss / caress their body (caricia / beso cuerpo), etc. But I have not put it in writing.

Dogers69
03-04-22, 05:51
Went to HK Wed and met an African Mexican. Went arriba after negotiation.

In the room, she asked: do you like drugs?

No.

Do you like alcohol?

I replied no again.

But after cleaning, found she was smoking. Highly suspect she was using drugs.

She lay on bed, closed eyes, smoking and enjoying it.

I got pissed off with it since I a nonsmoker. In particular, do not want to get involved in illegal issues. Asked her to stop it immediately.

Even worse, in her period, her pussy smelled terribly.

Totally lost interest. Tried to talk to the front desk who are familiar with me, but got stopped by security. Later many people came. I just explained it..Well that socks. The thing is brothels are illegal. There is no brothel. The hotel doesn't have complete control like they probably have in that Nevada brothel. The girls are supposed to be independent. But yeah once a girl is drunk or high, a lot bad stuff happens. I've been hit once hard in HK for not buying 2nd drink for a drunk girl. A few others drunk took 1 sip of their beer and got up and left. Some drunk ones will even try and have s3 x with you in the club in front of everyone.

Captain Solo
03-04-22, 06:46
Tinny,

There is only 1 Afro girl in HK. She's fairly heavy, round face, dark skin, frizzy dark hair. She's not popular in the club. Out of a hundred nice, hot, sweet, pretty girls in HK, why did you go with this chunky woman?

Sorry to hear this chunky woman bulldozed you with very serious abuses. She's not supposed to sell sex when she's on her period. That's filthy and a very serious health risk. She lied to you and cheated you right there. You had the right to reject her for that problem alone and complain to the management to get her ass fired. Good that you reported this incident so we will avoid her.

Smoking in bed when her client was a nonsmoker was just outright rude. She was probably smoking down some meth. Lots of girls are hooked on it. She should have done it on her own and not risked legal problems for her client.

This woman is abusive and outright rude. You did the right thing not giving her money upfront and complaining to the reception desk to call in HK management. Make sure she gets her ass fired for cheating her client.

It's a good strategy to negotiate for 1,000 pesos with propina to be paid after sex, so the girls have incentives to give you good service. Sometimes the girls are afraid you might stiff them. Just show them a stack of money in the bar or leave the money on the night stand so they feel secure that they will get paid.

There are dozens of nice, hot girls in HK and a few horse asses you should avoid like this one. You will find girls who give you sweet love and hot sex. Don't give up.

Santij
03-04-22, 06:56
This became very common practice now a days. Pay before service, cause trouble before sex. And meanwhile waiter knocks on the door. I took one to room from hk last week. 80+30 to room, she asked to pay before, I did, she asked me to take bath. I did, finally she refused to remove all cloths and even refused to put condom. Lost interest. Meanwhile waiter knocked door. Not even 15 minutes. She just left the room seriousky. I complained at front desk. They gave me her name and asked to talk to manager in the club. Fuck it. I just left. One bad experience but there were so many happy days at that place.


Went to HK Wed and met an African Mexican. Went arriba after negotiation
In the room, she asked: do you like drugs?

No.

Do you like alcohol?

I replied no again.

But after cleaning, found she was smoking. Highly suspect she was using drugs.

She lay on bed, closed eyes, smoking and enjoying it.

I got pissed off with it since I a nonsmoker. In particular, do not want to get involved in illegal issues. Asked her to stop it immediately.

Even worse, in her period, her pussy smelled terribly.

Totally lost interest. Tried to talk to the front desk who are familiar with me, but got stopped by security. Later many people came. I just explained it.

While talking with the manager. The manager said I got other issues in the past. I always put it in writing my terms on a note and showed it to girls including pay after service. Most are fine, but 2 cases, girls changed mind once in room, ask pay before service. I just quitted it immediately and talked to the front desk who are familiar with me. They can even talk with the security and it can help a lot. Actually, I knew quite some staff, unfortunately, most of them left now.

I pay 80-100 6 years ago, but got cheated a few times. Now, I just pay base $1000 MXN after service, as captain solo did, with tips over $600 MXN for good service. I can repeat it with my fav girls before pandemic, but not now. It seems they just stay very short, 1 week, 10 days or 2 weeks now, and I can hardly locate them again.

We all come here for fun. But bad moods with unpleasant issues. Not a trouble maker, still pay gas 50 dollars a trip, not to mention time and energy wasted. That is why I would not endure it any more. If a girl cheats & makes me unhappy, I would do the same.

I didn't mention her smoking drug, not sure of the evidence, afraid too complicated. What will you do if yr girl might be using drugs? Go out immediately?

Be careful with this Afro Mexicana from Veracruz. Her name sounds like Kalinka.

SpeedToys
03-04-22, 13:07
HK and its owners can be made liable.


I can't help but ask Matlock.

For what?

Jackie888
03-04-22, 18:01
I can't help but ask Matlock.

For what?Civil battery I think. False imprisonment is an iffy. IIED is maybe a stretch.

Bunter Hiden
03-04-22, 19:05
I pretty much avoid HK. But all this talk about the fat guy sounds entertaining. I will have to stop in to see the show.Saw a Gordo on Tuesday after noon w two girls near the alley entrance. He just kept dishing money and his weird thing for the day was sucking on the girls tits while also pushing his beer into his pie hole and drinking. Only reason I watched was because from my angle at the bar one of the girls, blonde but bad w names, was bent over constantly allowing me a wonderful view of her ass. Later she and I joked about going upstairs just so I could help her wash off the massive amount of hand sanitizer she bathed herself in after walking away. Day girls are much funnier than the night prowlers.

Cocr Brotheler
03-04-22, 19:44
Santij,

Was she smoking Mary J? That would def turn me off in the room and I would kick her out cause I can get drug tested at work and that close a proximity may absorb into my blood. And it is just plain disrespectful and can cause problems with hotel and you as well.

Man WTF up with these chicas asking for dinero up front? I had to throw out a mujer de Guadalajara recently for demanding payment up front. And then she got all huffy pissy storming out even refusing my 100 pesos consolation. Somebody (ies) hint hint phat Gordos must be spoiling them for doing nothing.

Cocr Brotheler
03-04-22, 19:47
Bunter,

He must have relocated to the rear of the club less in plain view to keep it on the low so as not to get sucker punched again. Has anyone tried to befriend him? Maybe can get some cheap free table food and beers hehehehehe.

Captain Solo
03-04-22, 21:33
Cocr.

He's putting the beer in his ass then drink from it. The guy acts like a retarded low life.

AFAIC see, nobody wanted to befriend such a retarded low life. The snacks and beers are not worth for anyone to lower his dignity to hang out with that kind of retarded trash. He will get popped by other guys in the club.

It's ridiculous the meseros keep kissing the retard's butt hole to let him do his stupid show. HK is turning into a show place for retards to do their stupid shit shows.

Bunter,

He must have relocated to the rear of the club less in plain view to keep it on the low so as not to get sucker punched again. Has anyone tried to befriend him? Maybe can get some cheap free table food and beers hehehehehe.

Rambo1969
03-05-22, 03:13
This became very common practice now a days. Pay before service, cause trouble before sex. And meanwhile waiter knocks on the door. I took one to room from hk last week. 80+30 to room, she asked to pay before, I did, she asked me to take bath. I did, finally she refused to remove all cloths and even refused to put condom. Lost interest. Meanwhile waiter knocked door. Not even 15 minutes. She just left the room seriousky. I complained at front desk. They gave me her name and asked to talk to manager in the club. Fuck it. I just left. One bad experience but there were so many happy days at that place.Santij. Thanks for sharing that bad experience.

You are too nice. I would have escalated to management to get my $80 & $30 back.

Your experience are examples of why I NEVER pay up-front. Last October I had to let a awesome beauty go for this reason.

I am willing to show them I have the money but I am not willing to give them money up-front.

StRobert
03-05-22, 11:34
I pretty much avoid HK. But all this talk about the fat guy sounds entertaining. I will have to stop in to see the show.I saw this guy on Tuesday he was surrounded by 6 chicas and there were dollar bills everywhere on the floor around the table. If he likes Arabic music maybe it's some rich Middle Eastern oil sheik. My opinion, his money and his life, let him do what he wants, I don't care. I didn't have time to watch him because I was busy groping chicas for $ 1!

LuvMexicanas
03-05-22, 17:29
My opinion, his money and his life, let him do what he wants, I don't care. I didn't have time to watch him because I was busy groping chicas for $ 1!Too many guys getting bent about it. Not sure why they let him live rent free in their minds. If you don't like something, take away its only power: your attention.

BlackThought
03-05-22, 18:25
Santij. Thanks for sharing that bad experience.

You are too nice. I would have escalated to management to get my $80 & $30 back.

Your experience are examples of why I NEVER pay up-front. Last October I had to let a awesome beauty go for this reason.

I am willing to show them I have the money but I am not willing to give them money up-front.Same. My worst sessions have a positive correlation with paying upfront.

LuvMexicanas
03-05-22, 20:03
Same. My worst sessions have a positive correlation with paying upfront.It's been so long since a chica, whether escort or bar girl, has asked for payment upfront, I don't remember the last time it's happened.

Rambo1969
03-05-22, 22:48
Too many guys getting bent about it. Not sure why they let him live rent free in their minds. If you don't like something, take away its only power: your attention.I don't think anyone is letting him live rent-free in their mind. Just that we are having a discussion about our observations in the club.

I am not bothered about the guy at all in fact; I appreciate his generosity.

I see the captain is bothered by him but then again the captain is of eloquently exaggerates. Hehe.

But I will say it is hard to ignore that guy when he was in the front of the club at the best tables.

So it is not a matter of letting him stay in your mind. But you just can't help but observe him if you are sitting anywhere near him and his harem.

Nothing24
03-06-22, 07:59
I've seen that fat guy as well LOL. Doesn't bother me, like others have said, it's his money. I just sit back and shake my head in laughter and disgust at all the money he throws around. He could be having PSE threesomes with model escorts with the type of money he wastes throwing around at Hong Kong, I don't understand his enjoyment of wasting it at the club. Makes zero sense to me. This one girl told me he bought her some Louis Vuitton sneakers that cost around $1,200USD what an idiot. I haven't even seen him go upstairs with anybody, he just parties at the club. I imagine at some point he does go upstairs but I have never seen him do it and I'm usually at the club for 2-4 hours at a time. 9/10 times I go he is in there taking up a couple booths, money all over the floor. I'm sure the girls and staff all laugh behind his back.

Sperten
03-06-22, 08:08
I sat with Cecilia from Sonora once. Very nice and affectionate. I wonder what other services she offer.


A few HK girls are known for squirting. Diabetics and overweight people are known to have bladder control problems. The putas would just piss out a big stream when sexually aroused.

Getting peed on the face is filthy. Some guys think it's sexy, but just filthy and unhealthy to me. Some guys even pay premiums to eat out putas' culos.

The little girl Cecilia is known for squirting 5 to 6 times during a session. Cascada's beds stink. Check the sheets and bed covers for fluids before laying you asses down in them.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-06-22, 08:44
I saw that fat Arabic guy there on Friday night. Shelling out tons of 1 dollar bills all over the floor and crowding the middle of the room. Was buying roses and tons of food. All these HK chicas just moochiing off him. Wonder how much money he wastes per night there.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-06-22, 08:50
A HK girl I had been hanging with outside the club for a few months finally said that she wanted a man by her side who can help her with her weekly expenses. Once I hesitated on making that commitment (for obvious reasons; I see no reason to drain my wallet like that every week to fund several hundred to a few thousands dollars to someone who can't hold their own weight) that HK girl just abruptly stopped talking to me completely. It was somewhat shell shocking that we went from communicating everyday to suddenly nothing. HK girls are ruthless. They may have been good people before, but their prostitution job has messed them up psychologically. It hurt to no longer have a relationship with her but her going cold on me may have been the best thing to happen to me. I was just being played from the get go. Careful to all you other guys that try to get anything resembling a "normal" relationship with an HK girl. At some point, they want that money. And if you don't deliver. They'll dump you like cold turkey without a second thought and go back to being penetrated by 20 dicks a night for quick money. You're just an ATM to them.

BlackThought
03-06-22, 18:33
It's been so long since a chica, whether escort or bar girl, has asked for payment upfront, I don't remember the last time it's happened.It's pretty rare for me as well. Only happened in Mexico and Costa Rica.

Jackie888
03-06-22, 19:29
I saw that fat Arabic guy there on Friday night. Shelling out tons of 1 dollar bills all over the floor and crowding the middle of the room. Was buying roses and tons of food. All these HK chicas just moochiing off him. Wonder how much money he wastes per night there.I think I am going to look for this dude and hang out near his booth for stragglers.

Big Edd
03-06-22, 21:20
I saw this Arabic elephant on Saturday. In my opinion his life must be so empty he has to put up a show every night. I don't really care, his money his problem.

My only problem with this guy is that he takes my 2 favorite girls, girls who were always sweet and nice to me. Now that they've seen all this money they'll probably be over their head.

By the way, quality of talent was really low on Saturday. I left a bit disappointed.

Rambo1969
03-06-22, 22:35
I saw this Arabic elephant on Saturday. In my opinion his life must be so empty he has to put up a show every night. I don't really care, his money his problem.

My only problem with this guy is that he takes my 2 favorite girls, girls who were always sweet and nice to me. Now that they've seen all this money they'll probably be over their head.

By the way, quality of talent was really low on Saturday. I left a bit disappointed.I have seen multiple references to the generous fat dude as Arabic.

What makes you think he is Arabic?

Cocr Brotheler
03-06-22, 23:08
The money he is throwing around is probably just small change to him. Many Arabics just from family lineage get a huge allowance. And even if he is not Arabic the $s thrown around may still just be small change to him.

Again I don't mind "seeing" it but do mind what it does to chicas psychology and inflating prices for us and taking favorite chicas off the market for us etc.

However since I read he got hit upside the head real good means he is weak and a monger could probably just go right up to a chica alongside him and negotiate her for arriba or does he get threatening?

Cocr Brotheler
03-06-22, 23:13
Solo,

Seriously he is taking the bottle and inserting up where the sun doesn't shine then drinking from the bottle with his own taste of feces? Man that dude is psychologically sick.

I have a Lebanese friend who knows about the Arabs and some men just love to have their little boys (underage) which could get you killed over there but they are part of the hierarchy so goes un-noticed.

RikyMichaels7
03-06-22, 23:21
A HK girl I had been hanging with outside the club for a few months finally said that she wanted a man by her side who can help her with her weekly expenses. Once I hesitated on making that commitment (for obvious reasons; I see no reason to drain my wallet like that every week to fund several hundred to a few thousands dollars to someone who can't hold their own weight) that HK girl just abruptly stopped talking to me completely. It was somewhat shell shocking that we went from communicating everyday to suddenly nothing. HK girls are ruthless. They may have been good people before, but their prostitution job has messed them up psychologically. It hurt to no longer have a relationship with her but her going cold on me may have been the best thing to happen to me. I was just being played from the get go. Careful to all you other guys that try to get anything resembling a "normal" relationship with an HK girl. At some point, they want that money. And if you don't deliver. They'll dump you like cold turkey without a second thought and go back to being penetrated by 20 dicks a night for quick money. You're just an ATM to them.Mr. Smith,

I couldn't have said it any better. This life turns these women into jaded, entitled, manipulating lowlifes. And good for you for not falling into that trap of sending money, because I can guarantee you that if you were to commit to sending money that it would never, and I mean never be enough. It will end up being just another form of manipulation for the one thing they want. Money. You will end up paying for all kinds of crap, such as hair extension, nails, clothes, jewelry, etc. And then as you get into the game, they will pull the sick card. Her mom and dad, kids, herself, a long lost friend are sick and need money. Or, they will pull the plastic surgery card, telling you if you truly love them that you need to pay for lipo or a boob job. After all, it will help them look more sexy for you. That job as a working girl ruins most of these women. You are exactly correct that her going cold on you is the best thing that can happen to you. Relationships with these putas do not work, as has been told many times by people like me who have gotten burned. In my case, I ended up having the girl from Tropical that I had a relationship with break my finger (by swinging a dumbell weight at my face and hitting my finger) and cutting my bicep with a huge kitchen knife that she was intent upon killing me with. Once I ran for the hills, she ended up getting pregnant from some lowlife gang banger from L. A. As soon as he found out that she was pregnant, he vanished and never talked to her again. Karma is a *****. She got hers.

If some of you watch that show "90 Day Fiance," there is an American geek dating a girl from Columbia. They got engaged. He bought her a whole bunch of furniture for her apartment and a big engagement ring. She manipulated him into paying for her to have plastic surgery. In the latest episode, she tells him that she is not in love with him but keeps pounding him to get the boob job. She is not a puta but you can see the typical let's eff over the gringo and manipulate him for every dime she can get. I guarantee you, once she has her surgery, she will want nothing to do with this loser.

Sperten
03-06-22, 23:33
Wow. That is cold. Maybe she found someone else that is willing. That is their goal. Stay sane and don't give in.


A HK girl I had been hanging with outside the club for a few months finally said that she wanted a man by her side who can help her with her weekly expenses. Once I hesitated on making that commitment (for obvious reasons; I see no reason to drain my wallet like that every week to fund several hundred to a few thousands dollars to someone who can't hold their own weight) that HK girl just abruptly stopped talking to me completely. It was somewhat shell shocking that we went from communicating everyday to suddenly nothing. HK girls are ruthless. They may have been good people before, but their prostitution job has messed them up psychologically. It hurt to no longer have a relationship with her but her going cold on me may have been the best thing to happen to me. I was just being played from the get go. Careful to all you other guys that try to get anything resembling a "normal" relationship with an HK girl. At some point, they want that money. And if you don't deliver. They'll dump you like cold turkey without a second thought and go back to being penetrated by 20 dicks a night for quick money. You're just an ATM to them.

Dogers69
03-07-22, 01:26
I saw that fat Arabic guy there on Friday night. Shelling out tons of 1 dollar bills all over the floor and crowding the middle of the room. Was buying roses and tons of food. All these HK chicas just moochiing off him. Wonder how much money he wastes per night there.He must spend 4 thousand to 20 most nights from the look of it. I feel it puts a damper on the whole area of the club because we are all getting the money thrown on us as it blows around but most are smart not to touch it, then the staff has to grab it quickly making customer feel like a thief as if I'm gonna still the 5 singles on my foot and next to my foot. Then some girls not involved pick a few singles up. Meanwhile any girl watching but with a guy is not impressed with your 2 dollars for her attention. Once a week would be one thing. But 7 days a week? There's no way it doesn't help the girls increase their price for sex when they make money for no sex. A Virginia can work at HK and make 150 night easily from singles.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-07-22, 05:48
He must spend 4 thousand to 20 most nights from the look of it. I feel it puts a damper on the whole area of the club because we are all getting the money thrown on us as it blows around but most are smart not to touch it, then the staff has to grab it quickly making customer feel like a thief as if I'm gonna still the 5 singles on my foot and next to my foot. Then some girls not involved pick a few singles up. Meanwhile any girl watching but with a guy is not impressed with your 2 dollars for her attention. Once a week would be one thing. But 7 days a week? There's no way it doesn't help the girls increase their price for sex when they make money for no sex. A Virginia can work at HK and make 150 night easily from singles.I never stayed long enough to see if he actually goes up to the hotel with any of these women. I can't imagine that he doesn't. Any normal guy would feel like they weren't getting their actual value in money after shelling out thousands in dollars bills on the floor and never actually getting any action upstairs. I feel bad for any chica that goes upstairs with him and has to get pounded by his fat nasty Arabic ass. Its crazy the length these HK chicas will go to earn that easy. Money. They'll bang the nastiest fucker out there as long as money is involved. I can't imagine these chicas ever being psychologically normal again after the shit they allow to be sexually done to them in the HK hotel rooms by non standard customers who are actually sick fucks.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-07-22, 06:05
Mr. Smith,

I couldn't have said it any better. This life turns these women into jaded, entitled, manipulating lowlifes. And good for you for not falling into that trap of sending money, because I can guarantee you that if you were to commit to sending money that it would never, and I mean never be enough. It will end up being just another form of manipulation for the one thing they want. Money. You will end up paying for all kinds of crap, such as hair extension, nails, clothes, jewelry, etc. And then as you get into the game, they will pull the sick card. Her mom and dad, kids, herself, a long lost friend are sick and need money. Or, they will pull the plastic surgery card, telling you if you truly love them that you need to pay for lipo or a boob job. After all, it will help them look more sexy for you. That job as a working girl ruins most of these women. You are exactly correct that her going cold on you is the best thing that can happen to you. Relationships with these putas do not work, as has been told many times by people like me who have gotten burned. In my case, I ended up having the girl from Tropical that I had a relationship with break my finger (by swinging a dumbell weight at my face and hitting my finger) and cutting my bicep with a huge kitchen knife that she was intent upon killing me with. Once I ran for the hills, she ended up getting pregnant from some lowlife gang banger from L. A. As soon as he found out that she was pregnant, he vanished and never talked to her again. Karma is a *****. She got hers..You are 100% correct dude. We were hanging out at a mall and she started picking up various relatively expensive items for her family members (new shoes for her dad, a hover board for her son, etc). I followed her to the cashier for checkout and she gave me the nastiest look ever when I wasn't making any attempt to pay for it. At first I thought it was maybe a cultural difference because in America it would never be normal for a partner / boyfriend to pay for all these expensive gifts for people he doesn't even know. But like you said, in the end, this HK chica just wanted a sugar daddy to abuse and was just playing me for a fool for several months before showing her true colors. I think she simply showed me a lot of affection for several months thinking I was wealthy and an easy target to manipulate eventually. I do actually have a steady job and the fact that she dropped me dead like cold turkey in favor of a life of 20 nasty dicks a night at HK goes to show these women no longer have any sense of what's considered a normal good relationship anymore.

Captain Solo
03-07-22, 08:17
I was in HK Saturday night. Fat Fuck was doing the same thing, bull shitting with 5 girls, so he was doing it 2 nights in a row. He was raining $ on them all night with bills scattered all over the floor. By 10 he put a stack of $ in his pocket, took the 5 girls to the stage, waited around a bit, went up the stage dancing to some weird music, raining may be $200 on them. Then a guy delivered 2 dozen red and white roses arranged in a heart-shaped box, which he offered up to the girls like a religious offering to the Pussy God. He was dancing around on the stage with the girls for about 15 minutes then went back standing around the tables doing small talk with the girls while 1 girl continue to rain $ occasionally.

Somebody said he's Arabic. I think he's Mexican, as he was standing and talking with the girls without any aids or hesitation. Looks like he's doing the same shit show every night, the biggest spender in HK in the last 20 years.

We are in HK to watch some hot strippers dancing, not some retarded fat fuck prancing on stage like he's cute. He was in the club all night, did not take any girl upstairs, throwing money around, obviously only trying to draw attention to himself. If he really likes those 5 girls, he could just give each $100 discretely and set them loose to make some fuck money. The whole thing looks like stupid, disgusting theatrics. Nobody got near him or gave him signs of approval. They stayed well away from a stupid retard.

When the chicas strip him of all his stolen money in a few days, he will be begging for food near the tacos stand hehe.

Captain Solo
03-07-22, 08:29
She does BBFS with my wingman every week.

One time he ran out of money and tole her so. She insisted she would till fuck him.

One time he drank too much and could not get his dick to rise, she was alternately giving him BBBJ and BBFS to get him to pop nonstop over 3 hours. He still could not pop.

She is known for having bladder control problem when she's aroused, running into the banos every 5 minutes during the session, or peeing all over the bed. The guy was so hot to fuck her, did not want to interrupt, put a pillow under her so she could just pee out. It happened in Rizzo de Oro. Fuck that filthy place.

She's not popular in HK, not doing many arribas and is desperate. She would do all sorts of wildest, vilest sex tricks to hook guys.

Dickus Maximus
03-07-22, 17:23
A HK girl I had been hanging with outside the club for a few months finally said that she wanted a man by her side who can help her with her weekly expenses. Once I hesitated on making that commitment (for obvious reasons; I see no reason to drain my wallet like that every week to fund several hundred to a few thousands dollars to someone who can't hold their own weight) that HK girl just abruptly stopped talking to me completely. It was somewhat shell shocking that we went from communicating everyday to suddenly nothing. HK girls are ruthless. They may have been good people before, but their prostitution job has messed them up psychologically. It hurt to no longer have a relationship with her but her going cold on me may have been the best thing to happen to me. I was just being played from the get go. Careful to all you other guys that try to get anything resembling a "normal" relationship with an HK girl. At some point, they want that money. And if you don't deliver. They'll dump you like cold turkey without a second thought and go back to being penetrated by 20 dicks a night for quick money. You're just an ATM to them.Although generally true, you can't say this categorically. There are plenty of girls that hate being there and that might make a good connection when they decide it just isn't worth the money. It's going to take a lot of work though. Probably easier to start working on your civie game. Consider that the average young girl in Tijuana makes about 6000 MXN a month. What you spend in Hong Kong in a night would be enough to make them strongly consider it.

Jackie888
03-07-22, 19:42
Although generally true, you can't say this categorically. There are plenty of girls that hate being there and that might make a good connection when they decide it just isn't worth the money. It's going to take a lot of work though. Probably easier to start working on your civie game. Consider that the average young girl in Tijuana makes about 6000 MXN a month. What you spend in Hong Kong in a night would be enough to make them strongly consider it.I think that most working chicas knows 3 types of relationships. Classic GF, Puta, and Sugar Daddy. But most guys knows only 2 types. Classic GF and Puta.

So when there is poor communication, there is a lot of misunderstandings. And guys think they are being taken advantage of when a chica was looking for just a sugar daddy.

If I was involve with a working chica, I would try to improve my understanding of her needs and she of my resources before I categorize all working chicas as manipulative bitches. Sometimes it's just a misunderstanding.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-07-22, 22:41
Although generally true, you can't say this categorically. There are plenty of girls that hate being there and that might make a good connection when they decide it just isn't worth the money. It's going to take a lot of work though. Probably easier to start working on your civie game. Consider that the average young girl in Tijuana makes about 6000 MXN a month. What you spend in Hong Kong in a night would be enough to make them strongly consider it.You are absolutely correct. It definitely takes a HUGE effort and tolerance level to advance any relationship with a HK chica into something beyond simply getting laid at the club for $100. You have to be willing to essentially be a sugar daddy (I'm willing to bet most average men are not rich enough to sustain this level of financial drainage), support her and her children and her family, and be willing to commit yourself to someone known to be a working girl who has literally fucked 1000's of men and allowed men to do god knows what to their body over the years. Additionally, these chicas are not US citizens, so you either have to be willing to move to Mexico if you really want to be in a real relationship or marry them and bring them to the US which itself is a huge commitment full of risk especially since you are marrying a prostitute which is full of potential problems down the road, financially, socially. Given all these barriers. A real relationship with a working girl at HK is very unlikely. You are right in that if you are willing to go this route, it might actually be better to just put time into your civie game, hahah.

Rainman306
03-08-22, 03:11
I've read so much about this fat dude, but have never seen him in person. My only recent trip to HK & Zona was the first week of February. To me he seems no more than a showboat.

I think his days of massive spending will be limited. Every guy I've ever heard of throwing around major money ends up having a short shelf life.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-08-22, 04:16
I've read so much about this fat dude, but have never seen him in person. My only recent trip to HK & Zona was the first week of February. To me he seems no more than a showboat.

I think his days of massive spending will be limited. Every guy I've ever heard of throwing around major money ends up having a short shelf life.Unless you're bill gates or some CEO of a fortune 100 company, nobody can sustain shelling out several thousand every night. I guarantee fat dude has his financial limits and will soon disappear after he depletes his bank account. Anyone with as much money as bill gates or a CEO of a fortune 100 company would not be at HK. Fat dude is probably just a regular guy with an above average bank account but no common sense to control his spending. Maybe he's going through an emotional crisis and spending all his money on hookers is his way of dealing with it. Who knows.

Dirk Ming Int
03-08-22, 05:10
I was there too. I think he tipped the DJ with a lot of money and the DJ kept going "There is Armenia in the house". And I was like so what? The DJ kept playing Armenian / Turkish songs which no one understands or enjoys.


I was in HK Saturday night. Fat Fuck was doing the same thing, bull shitting with 5 girls, so he was doing it 2 nights in a row. He was raining $ on them all night with bills scattered all over the floor. By 10 he put a stack of $ in his pocket, took the 5 girls to the stage, waited around a bit, went up the stage dancing to some weird music, raining may be $200 on them. Then a guy delivered 2 dozen red and white roses arranged in a heart-shaped box, which he offered up to the girls like a religious offering to the Pussy God. He was dancing around on the stage with the girls for about 15 minutes then went back standing around the tables doing small talk with the girls while 1 girl continue to rain $ occasionally.

Somebody said he's Arabic. I think he's Mexican, as he was standing and talking with the girls without any aids or hesitation. Looks like he's doing the same shit show every night, the biggest spender in HK in the last 20 years.

We are in HK to watch some hot strippers dancing, not some retarded fat fuck prancing on stage like he's cute. He was in the club all night, did not take any girl upstairs, throwing money around, obviously only trying to draw attention to himself. If he really likes those 5 girls, he could just give each $100 discretely and set them loose to make some fuck money. The whole thing looks like stupid, disgusting theatrics. Nobody got near him or gave him signs of approval. They stayed well away from a stupid retard..

Sperten
03-08-22, 06:47
Wow. Thanks for the info. Will try to push the limit with her then.


She does BBFS with my wingman every week.

One time he ran out of money and tole her so. She insisted she would till fuck him.

One time he drank too much and could not get his dick to rise, she was alternately giving him BBBJ and BBFS to get him to pop nonstop over 3 hours. He still could not pop.

She is known for having bladder control problem when she's aroused, running into the banos every 5 minutes during the session, or peeing all over the bed. The guy was so hot to fuck her, did not want to interrupt, put a pillow under her so she could just pee out. It happened in Rizzo de Oro. Fuck that filthy place.

She's not popular in HK, not doing many arribas and is desperate. She would do all sorts of wildest, vilest sex tricks to hook guys.

Captain Solo
03-08-22, 07:08
Lots of HK girls are doing BBFS.

The bros may as well know them.

IkaikaSpartan
03-08-22, 09:43
Well haven't been on this site in long time. Sad to see this thread degrade and talk just smack. But hey a heads up, I saw my regular who I have not seen in over a month. She told me of 3 murders in Cascades in a span of 2-3 weeks ago. All the girls La zona norte know about it. Happened in cascades, same guy (white gringo), and an investigation is not happening. Bodies found beaten and bludgeoned to death. HK owners not doing anything cause they'll get shut down. And police are corrupt and paid off. I am sickened by it. I haven't seen this posted here. Which means, treat the girls like women and not just putas. Yes they are hustling but if you are not a total douche bag and have an honest conversation then you'll get some insight. Speaking Spanish is huge plus. The women are human beings so treat them like that. If the killer is reading this. Bruh you will get yours.

Heyunous
03-08-22, 19:11
Well haven't been on this site in long time. Sad to see this thread degrade and talk just smack. But hey a heads up, I saw my regular who I have not seen in over a month. She told me of 3 murders in Cascades in a span of 2-3 weeks ago. All the girls La zona norte know about it. Happened in cascades, same guy (white gringo), and an investigation is not happening. Bodies found beaten and bludgeoned to death. HK owners not doing anything cause they'll get shut down. And police are corrupt and paid off. I am sickened by it. I haven't seen this posted here. Which means, treat the girls like women and not just putas. Yes they are hustling but if you are not a total douche bag and have an honest conversation then you'll get some insight. Speaking Spanish is huge plus. The women are human beings so treat them like that. If the killer is reading this. Bruh you will get yours.There has been plenty of discussion on this site about this. Two happened in Cascades and one with a girl who left with a customer around 11 am from HK. She was found in her truck on Nino Heroes. Murdered. This is the first I have heard that they are sure it is the same guy. There was a camera at the intersection of the latest murder. The word is he had a hoodie pulled up and a face mask on. Making it difficult to identify him. Rumor has it the latest guy may have been a Chino. Who the hell knows. I agree it is sickening and hope they catch whoever is responsible.

YahnCruz
03-08-22, 19:51
She does BBFS with my wingman every week.

One time he ran out of money and tole her so. She insisted she would till fuck him.

One time he drank too much and could not get his dick to rise, she was alternately giving him BBBJ and BBFS to get him to pop nonstop over 3 hours. He still could not pop.

She is known for having bladder control problem when she's aroused, running into the banos every 5 minutes during the session, or peeing all over the bed. The guy was so hot to fuck her, did not want to interrupt, put a pillow under her so she could just pee out. It happened in Rizzo de Oro. Fuck that filthy place.

She's not popular in HK, not doing many arribas and is desperate. She would do all sorts of wildest, vilest sex tricks to hook guys.Sounds fun. What she look like? Ass? Tits? Spinner?

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03-08-22, 20:27
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ABAJoeSmith123
03-08-22, 20:37
Well haven't been on this site in long time. Sad to see this thread degrade and talk just smack. But hey a heads up, I saw my regular who I have not seen in over a month. She told me of 3 murders in Cascades in a span of 2-3 weeks ago. All the girls La zona norte know about it. Happened in cascades, same guy (white gringo), and an investigation is not happening. Bodies found beaten and bludgeoned to death. HK owners not doing anything cause they'll get shut down. And police are corrupt and paid off. I am sickened by it. I haven't seen this posted here. Which means, treat the girls like women and not just putas. Yes they are hustling but if you are not a total douche bag and have an honest conversation then you'll get some insight. Speaking Spanish is huge plus. The women are human beings so treat them like that. If the killer is reading this. Bruh you will get yours.Not all customers at HK are regular dudes just looking to get laid and having a nice friendly time with a HK chica. There are a lot of sick fucks I'm sure at the club. Even though they don't "murder" anyone, I'm sure the crap they do to chicas upstairs can often be just as bad.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-08-22, 20:44
Has anyone refused to tip those cleaning people once you are done using the hotel rooms for 30 minutes? I all zone in on your room the second you are done requesting tips like vultures. Was curious if everyone else was also tipping all these annoying people.

Captain Solo
03-08-22, 21:47
Dirk Ming,

Nobody cares who he is or what nationality. He looks and acts like a trashy low life, may be a drug dealer, not a responsible or well-off gentleman.

The way he's flaunting his money to attract attention to himself is way too trashy. He makes the rest of the guys look like paupers, infringes on guys' enjoyment of the club and makes the rest of the girls jealous of the few who hang out with him to rake in all that propinas. Wonder how those girls divide the loot among themselves without killing each other hehe.

HK is just too happy to incorporate his outrageous shit show into its program. It raises prices and expectations from the girls and all workers in the club. Since he's doing it everyday with the support and perfect timing from HK's workers, DJ synchs music, meseros spread out snacks, set up bottle buckets, bring cash stacks quickly, vendor deliver roses arrangements right on cue ect Somebody has to arrange for all of that. This shit show may well be HK's set up to pressure guys to spend more on the girls and on liquors in the club.

Civilized people would frown on such ostentatious, trashy and phony show off behavior. Guys may get jealous with all the attention he's seeking and deal with him accordingly.

Regias Voice
03-08-22, 23:12
Well haven't been on this site in long time. Sad to see this thread degrade and talk just smack. But hey a heads up, I saw my regular who I have not seen in over a month. She told me of 3 murders in Cascades in a span of 2-3 weeks ago. All the girls La zona norte know about it. Happened in cascades, same guy (white gringo), and an investigation is not happening. Bodies found beaten and bludgeoned to death. HK owners not doing anything cause they'll get shut down. And police are corrupt and paid off. I am sickened by it. I haven't seen this posted here. Which means, treat the girls like women and not just putas. Yes they are hustling but if you are not a total douche bag and have an honest conversation then you'll get some insight. Speaking Spanish is huge plus. The women are human beings so treat them like that. If the killer is reading this. Bruh you will get yours.This was discussed in the thread shortly after the murder that occurred on the night of January 24. My lover my best friend went to room 404 for 30 minutes with a client and was strangled. The story HK put out to the girls and meseros was that she overdosed. The description given by her friend who shared a drink with her and the client was "Era un hombre no muy alto, cabello chino negro, andaba vestido con sweater negro y pantalón."

The description another girl gave was (and this is from a client relaying this) "some tall brown skinned Hispanic guy late 20's who has a mole next to his nose."

In any event this dude should be all over the cameras, and yet the police have released zero information nor made any arrests.

The next murder of an HK chica I heard about was the girl who went on the Valentines date and was found in the trunk of her car.

DasBooty
03-08-22, 23:42
Friday.

Arrived 9. 30 pm, good boy-girl ratio (1-2). It's a big club so there was a lot of area to cover. I set up shop by the area above the middle area where many girls are standing. Good overview of both stages from here and you can keep an eye on the concentration of girls just below. Spotted a big booty chica (Maria) which I followed all the way to chavelas (at the time I thought I was in hk). Chavelas was less crowded so I sat her down for a chat. Bought her a beer and proposed a 1 h session for 4 000 pesos. She said she can't do 1 h sessions only 30 min, that she must sell 5 beers before she can do 1 h. She then changed her mind and said let's go but warned that they would come knocking on the door after 30 min. Took her to my room at cascadas and had a great session with two pops. She showered and left. 10 min after she left a waiter knocked asking about room service, I said no and shut the door. A few min later a security guard knocked on my door and asked me how long the girl stayed with me. I said 1 h. I whatsapped her and told her about what happened. She replied 10 min later that they fined her 120 $. Told her that maybe we could schedule for a session tomorrow during the day and she said ok.

Relaxed in my room until 12.30 am and headed back down to hk and now it was a sausage fest. Slim pickings at this time but a saw girl that looked interesting. Said her name was Cherry and that her rate is 2000 pesos for 30 min. Took her to my room and she wanted money upfront and told me to wash my hands before we do anything (I did both). She put some lube on my finger and put it on her clit, so far so good. When it was time for sex she refused to use my UK brand condom (Pasante), said that it didn't protect against STD's and that she has had experience with that particular brand. I said ok whatever. I wanted to fuck her big boobs and she said no. I managed to finish despite all her BS.

Saturday.

Whatsapped Maria that I wanted to meet her either in my room at cascadas or any other place that she recommends. She said she could come to cascadas during the day without any problems as there are no rules when she is not working (she works 8. 30 pm - 5 am). She arrived dressed like a civilian but escorted by a staff member. She jokingly asked me 'why didn't you just lie when they asked you about how long I stayed with you last night?' Told her I assumed that since they have cameras everywhere there is no point in lying. She then asked if I headed down to HK after our session last night and I said yes and she laughed and blurted out a Mexican phrase for guys that want to stick their dick in every chick. 4 000 pesos for 1 h30 min. Muy bien GFE.

Arrived 1 am and the most interesting girls to me were busy working the booths instead of looking for the Dee. Found a young looking chica (Olivia) with big ass and lips, medium boobs. Agreed upon 2000 pesos for 30 min. When she entered my room she said 2000 pesos bebe, si? Claro que si amor. I'm in bed naked and right before she joins me she starts the timer on her phone. I thought oh shit, but she went the extra mile. We did multiple positions and as I was on top of her, fucking boobs, the timer went off and I assumed she would bltch and moan but she let me finish without stressing me out. Afterwards she said propina bebe? I gave her 250 pesos and she was happy.

All in all it was a fun experience but Brazil and Germany is much better if you're just looking for sex.

Captain Solo
03-09-22, 01:15
YahnCruz,

She's about 5.2 110 Lbs, may be a spinner to some.

She just had new ass and tits a month ago, so they are big and still pretty hard. Pretty or not is up to your taste.

Her ex winggirl, Yani AKA Aurora, half Korean from Mexicali, is prettier, tighter, more fun, speaks English perfectly as she used to live in USA. The 2 had a fight over my wingman and broke off relationship.

Captain Solo
03-09-22, 01:41
Most bar and hotel workers in La Zona make very little money, like Mexico's minimum wages. Some have to rent those jobs from management and have to survive on tips. $1-2 tip after a $130 session with the girls is very reasonable.

I usually check the bed, floor and banos for fluids or contaminations, used needles, no towel, no soap ect. Some girls were always squirting or peeing in hotel beds. They don't give a shit about their filthy habit to the next guys. If rooms are not clean and smelling good I would tell them to call front desk to swap room. That really puts the fear into them as they may lose their jobs.

If I have to use a dirty room, I would refuse to tip room attendants on the way out and tell them to their faces what were wrong. That would give them incentives to do their jobs right.

Cleaning boys in hotel.

Dogers69
03-09-22, 02:33
I was there too. I think he tipped the DJ with a lot of money and the DJ kept going "There is Armenia in the house". And I was like so what? The DJ kept playing Armenian / Turkish songs which no one understands or enjoys.He arrived into Mexico via cdmx, and then Tijuana, with mexixos weak visa requirement, like all the millions of other asylum seekers world wide including many Russians. Once you request asylum the USA governments makes you stay in Mexico 35 days. Problem is he fell in love with Hong Kong and moved into Cascadas and now lives in Hong Kong, and literally hasn't seen even calle revolucion in months as he does not leave Hong Kong. Like at all. 7 days a week Hong Kong. Months after months. Hong Kong. Has never been to Adleitas or Chicago and is unaware of the outside taco stands either.

Jackie888
03-09-22, 03:27
Has anyone refused to tip those cleaning people once you are done using the hotel rooms for 30 minutes? I all zone in on your room the second you are done requesting tips like vultures. Was curious if everyone else was also tipping all these annoying people.In my opinion, the cleaning person deserves one dollar to keep the room clean. So I always tip one dollar. On the other hand, several cleaners sometimes line up and all want a dollar each. Then I think they are trying to take advantage of me, and I tell them to get lost. Or I tell them to tear my dollar bills in several pieces and share it among themselves. Plus I give them a stare down for abusing my generosity.

AmorPorFavor
03-09-22, 05:14
He arrived into Mexico via cdmx, and then Tijuana, with mexixos weak visa requirement, like all the millions of other asylum seekers world wide including many Russians. Once you request asylum the USA governments makes you stay in Mexico 35 days. Problem is he fell in love with Hong Kong and moved into Cascadas and now lives in Hong Kong, and literally hasn't seen even calle revolucion in months as he does not leave Hong Kong. Like at all. 7 days a week Hong Kong. Months after months. Hong Kong. Has never been to Adleitas or Chicago and is unaware of the outside taco stands either.There were like 20 or so immigrants from Armenia and Crimea living at the Ticuan for several months. I think most of them are gone now. I only saw men and they all smoked so you would see them hanging around the entrance smoking and talking since its a smoke free hotel. I talked to one of them after seeing him there for like 3 months and he told me he was on a vacation, LOL.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-09-22, 06:04
In my opinion, the cleaning person deserves one dollar to keep the room clean. So I always tip one dollar. On the other hand, several cleaners sometimes line up and all want a dollar each. Then I think they are trying to take advantage of me, and I tell them to get lost. Or I tell them to tear my dollar bills in several pieces and share it among themselves. Plus I give them a stare down for abusing my generosity.I agree with you 100%. The guy who cleans you room deserves a tip. But it's when all these other random guys rush in to collect tips who haven't done anything for you. I'm always afraid to say no to those vultures at risk of getting beat up or something.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-10-22, 06:19
Just a random thought I had. Was curious how all these chicas get employed at HK. There obviously isn't a formal website where you apply for a job and submit your resume like a typical job in America. I imagine they know of some email address they all send messages to indicating their desire to work there. Additionally, I wonder if all these HK chica's had to "audition" for the job by essentially having sex with some HK mob boss manager who controls which girls get hired. What do you guys think?

Sperten
03-10-22, 06:54
Lots of HK girls are doing BBFS.

The bros may as well know them.Agreed! Helps to know some reviews as Captain seems to know all the popular ones.

Jackie888
03-10-22, 18:14
I agree with you 100%. The guy who cleans you room deserves a tip. But it's when all these other random guys rush in to collect tips who haven't done anything for you. I'm always afraid to say no to those vultures at risk of getting beat up or something.Cascadas runs its operations well. If any clean up guy looks at you cross-eyed, tell them you are going to talk to their manager.

BlackThought
03-10-22, 20:03
Just a random thought I had. Was curious how all these chicas get employed at HK. There obviously isn't a formal website where you apply for a job and submit your resume like a typical job in America. I imagine they know of some email address they all send messages to indicating their desire to work there. Additionally, I wonder if all these HK chica's had to "audition" for the job by essentially having sex with some HK mob boss manager who controls which girls get hired. What do you guys think?Based on what I've seen it's through referrals. Maybe they get a referral bonus jaja.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-11-22, 00:41
Based on what I've seen it's through referrals. Maybe they get a referral bonus jaja.But I'm sure even if they get a referral they still have to be evaluated by some higher level HK management before being allowed to prance around the club. I bet there's a higher level HK management mob boss who requires every new HK chica to let him fuck her before he officially hires them.

Captain Solo
03-11-22, 02:34
I am disgusted knowing some HK girls hop on the sink, pee in it then wash their pussies right there, or just squirt and pee out into the bed and pillows, guys who drip on the floor and throw their used condoms anywhere, guys who get drunk and throw up on the bed or in the room.

Room attendants have to clean all that mess up. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. They may be doing a very lowly job but they are doing honest hard work. They are not cheating or stealing from anyone. If a few all ask for tip, just tell them you already gave it to the person behind you. There are no reasons to be afraid of them, to look down on them, to call them insulting names.

If they miss out on gross sanitary problems like used needles or a big puddle of piss on the bed, make sure you let the hotel management know.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-11-22, 06:06
I think you have been watching too much porn.I just don't' see HK allowing any random woman to prance around in their club just because they emailed some recruiter that they want to work there. The vast majority of women in HK are way above average in terms of hotness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to believe that there was some screening process in selecting them. Given that it is basically a sex club run by less than morally honorable men. I bet there is some HK mob boss or team of mob bosses that the girls have to have sex with to prove their "worth" before officially being allowed to work in the club. Anyone else have thoughts on this or possibly actually know the details of how these girls get a job here from talking to other chicas? I'm just curious.

StRobert
03-11-22, 06:09
Just a random thought I had. Was curious how all these chicas get employed at HK. There obviously isn't a formal website where you apply for a job and submit your resume like a typical job in America. I imagine they know of some email address they all send messages to indicating their desire to work there. Additionally, I wonder if all these HK chica's had to "audition" for the job by essentially having sex with some HK mob boss manager who controls which girls get hired. What do you guys think?Nothing is illegal here. Hong Kong has a web page https://hktijuana.com/ and a link to facebook, instagram, email, phone for chicas willing to work. Prostitution in Zona Norte is completely legal. Sex chica and HK boss during the job interview I don't think so.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-11-22, 08:35
I am disgusted knowing some HK girls hop on the sink, pee in it then wash their pussies right there, or just squirt and pee out into the bed and pillows, guys who drip on the floor and throw their used condoms anywhere, guys who get drunk and throw up on the bed or in the room.

Room attendants have to clean all that mess up. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. They may be doing a very lowly job but they are doing honest hard work. They are not cheating or stealing from anyone. If a few all ask for tip, just tell them you already gave it to the person behind you. There are no reasons to be afraid of them, to look down on them, to call them insulting names.

If they miss out on gross sanitary problems like used needles or a big puddle of piss on the bed, make sure you let the hotel management know.Did you actually find a needle in your bed? I hope you're joking. But if you did. That's scary AF. I would be so scared if I got poked by an uncapped needle just sitting on the bed.

LuvMexicanas
03-11-22, 16:24
I just don't' see HK allowing any random woman to prance around in their club just because they emailed some recruiter that they want to work there. The vast majority of women in HK are way above average in terms of hotness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to believe that there was some screening process in selecting them. Given that it is basically a sex club run by less than morally honorable men. I bet there is some HK mob boss or team of mob bosses that the girls have to have sex with to prove their "worth" before officially being allowed to work in the club. Anyone else have thoughts on this or possibly actually know the details of how these girls get a job here from talking to other chicas? I'm just curious.My thought is that's a lot of conjecture and speculation.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-11-22, 19:19
My thought is that's a lot of conjecture and speculation.Haha, but it's very reasonable conjecture and speculation!

ABAJoeSmith123
03-11-22, 19:28
How do you maximize the amount of time you can sit down at a table with a chica without breaking your wallet having to pay for another $10 drink every 3-5 minutes? I see some guys sitting with girls grinding on them for over an hour. I feel I can only sit down with a girl for maybe 15 minutes max before I feel I either have to cut her loose or just go arriba already because I'm hemorrhaging too much money on drink requests. How are the pros staying at the tables so long?

Bunter Hiden
03-11-22, 22:05
Phat Bastard must think Austin Powers is in Tijuana. On Tuesday afternoon there was someone who matches the M O in the private room on the second level who kept sending a girl out to make it rain. Never saw the dude once in a few hours. The girl sent to do the task did not look happy BTW. And as far as tipping for the room when you leave, as I have said before, leave the money under the towel and it will end up with who actually cleans the room. I did have one girl insist last week that I hand it to the guy outside the door and I politely declined. I think she wanted to show the guy she was looking out for him. And as far as the Captain being disgusted with some hygiene habits in those rooms?. Well just prolly the wrong place for you. Only way to be germ free there is to nail the chica to the wall standing up with your shoes still on.

Captain Solo
03-11-22, 22:48
Many years ago, a bro reported finding an used needle not in Cascada, but a no name shithole hotel in the alley across from HK's back door, may be the old run down Edouardo with its heroine addicts. But it could also happen in Cascada if the cleaning people are not changing sheets and bed cover. So I always check the bed, sheets and cover before I sit down.

Hearing about HK girls pee in the sink and on pillows just disgusts me. I don't want to bag any girl unless she's nice, clean and exceptionally beautiful. The last girl I bagged, Camerun de Cancun, looked nice, clean, tall, lithe, beautiful in the club, but in the room she had a large tat along her spinal column hidden by her long hair. , also a caracol sun on her right thigh. I was disappointed but still had a very hot session with her.

I tend to think girls who go through the pain of putting large tattoos can do lots of stupid shit things to their bodies and are risky.

Ctytek
03-11-22, 23:06
I just don't' see HK allowing any random woman to prance around in their club just because they emailed some recruiter that they want to work there. The vast majority of women in HK are way above average in terms of hotness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to believe that there was some screening process in selecting them. Given that it is basically a sex club run by less than morally honorable men. I bet there is some HK mob boss or team of mob bosses that the girls have to have sex with to prove their "worth" before officially being allowed to work in the club.OK. Like I said, you can believe whatever fantasy gets you off.

Dogers69
03-12-22, 05:08
How do you maximize the amount of time you can sit down at a table with a chica without breaking your wallet having to pay for another $10 drink every 3-5 minutes? I see some guys sitting with girls grinding on them for over an hour. I feel I can only sit down with a girl for maybe 15 minutes max before I feel I either have to cut her loose or just go arriba already because I'm hemorrhaging too much money on drink requests. How are the pros staying at the tables so long?Before covid, girls used to sit 3 times longer. Buying a girl a drink meant you had a girl for 15 minutes. I don't buy them drinks anymore as the swarm of food sellers, stuffed animal sellers, snack vendor, the 15 waiters who rush over to you while the 1 waiter is walking to the bar to get our drinks. These 15 waiters in the 2 minutes act as if you stole from Hong Kong. Its all wayyy too much. You would think your in some rich high end nyc strip club not a Latin American country where half the people make 40 dollars a day or less. I just talk to the girls till the waiter comes and send them packing with the same 2 dollars they get from the drink.

Phordphan
03-12-22, 08:15
How do you maximize the amount of time you can sit down at a table with a chica without breaking your wallet having to pay for another $10 drink every 3-5 minutes? I see some guys sitting with girls grinding on them for over an hour. I feel I can only sit down with a girl for maybe 15 minutes max before I feel I either have to cut her loose or just go arriba already because I'm hemorrhaging too much money on drink requests. How are the pros staying at the tables so long?First tip. Learn to converse in Spanish and you will get a lot more mileage.

Second tip. If they really drink their drink in 3 - 5 minutes cut 'them loose.

Third tip. Bring more money. Gringos pushed the prices into the stratosphere. If you want to play the gringo game it's going to cost you. The pros are staying at the tables so long because they have the money to spend. And they may or may not actually be interested in taking the girls upstairs. Locals party in a completely different manner than gringos.

Fourth tip. Once you can speak some Spanish you can find nice ladies willing to spend time with you all over the city. Hell, all over the country.

BlackThought
03-12-22, 21:44
I just don't' see HK allowing any random woman to prance around in their club just because they emailed some recruiter that they want to work there. The vast majority of women in HK are way above average in terms of hotness. Therefore, it seems reasonable to believe that there was some screening process in selecting them. Given that it is basically a sex club run by less than morally honorable men. I bet there is some HK mob boss or team of mob bosses that the girls have to have sex with to prove their "worth" before officially being allowed to work in the club. Anyone else have thoughts on this or possibly actually know the details of how these girls get a job here from talking to other chicas? I'm just curious.I doubt they're fucking them to test their sexual performance as there are plenty of HK chicas that provide shitty service.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-13-22, 01:06
I've noticed that most of the hotter chicas at Adelitas have switched over to HK now. If HK generates the most money for these women, why are there still women that work at say Adelitas or Chicago?

KBToys
03-13-22, 08:39
I doubt they're fucking them to test their sexual performance as there are plenty of HK chicas that provide shitty service.Exactly what I was thinking. Who would be the gatekeeper? I imagine it is difficult for them to continuously hire women that are desperate enough to trade time for money. Most probably have a goal in mind and then go back to their small town. Some of the ladies I saw in the club kind of confused me as they were more heavy set, but guys have their preferences.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-13-22, 11:00
Fat arabic dude was there tonight and almost got into a fight with some other guy who was pissed at him but security separated the two before any punches were thrown. That arabic dude needs to occupy some corner and not clog up the main area. His fat belly alone occupies the entire walkway. He looks so nasty and retarded but the chicas love exploiting him because he was literally handing fat stacks of bundled cash to each chica around him today. The good thing for other customers of HK is that he actually doesn't occupy the top tier women of hk; they're smart to stay away from his nasty ass. He surrounds himself with a bunch of mid level / lower level looking chicas imo.

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BlackThought
03-13-22, 16:36
I've noticed that most of the hotter chicas at Adelitas have switched over to HK now. If HK generates the most money for these women, why are there still women that work at say Adelitas or Chicago?Why do people work at McDonald's if they can make more money at Ruth's Chris? Why do some engineers work at IBM if they can make more at Google?

TjBrazil
03-13-22, 23:02
In my opinion, the cleaning person deserves one dollar to keep the room clean. So I always tip one dollar. On the other hand, several cleaners sometimes line up and all want a dollar each. Then I think they are trying to take advantage of me, and I tell them to get lost. Or I tell them to tear my dollar bills in several pieces and share it among themselves. Plus I give them a stare down for abusing my generosity.You believe that. Tell HK to pay them more. It's not like they aren't charging a fortune for everything now. I remember when they added the dollar robe fee. I told the guy no and he said I can't take her up. And I told her no also and left. Haven't been up in the room since. I'll stick with my escorts. You guys deal with HK meters and management.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-14-22, 01:23
Exactly what I was thinking. Who would be the gatekeeper? I imagine it is difficult for them to continuously hire women that are desperate enough to trade time for money. Most probably have a goal in mind and then go back to their small town. Some of the ladies I saw in the club kind of confused me as they were more heavy set, but guys have their preferences.If it happens, which I'm sure it does, higher level mgmt is probably not testing their sexual abilities. They're just probably using it as a requirement for working at the club. Some HK mob boss gets the benefit of having sex with incredibly hot women and in return he lets them make hundreds of dollars in the club. We are all human with urges. Add that with a position of power and a life surrounded by dirty money and drugs. And you have a HK mob boss who most likely will abuse his position of power to exploit women sexually.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-14-22, 01:27
What's everyone's preference after doing business arriba. Do you prefer walking back down the stairs holding the girls hand and then going back into the club with her or is it your preference to immediately go your own way once you leave the hotel room without any hand holding or side by side walking or goodbyes? I personally find it awkward walking back out with a girl down the stairs and into the street with everyone staring at you.

Rambo1969
03-14-22, 04:40
What's everyone's preference after doing business arriba. Do you prefer walking back down the stairs holding the girls hand and then going back into the club with her or is it your preference to immediately go your own way once you leave the hotel room without any hand holding or side by side walking or goodbyes? I personally find it awkward walking back out with a girl down the stairs and into the street with everyone staring at you.Since I get my own room I don't have this dilemma. I enjoy relaxing in my room for an hour after a session.

But I have often walked down & along with HK gals after they did a session with another guy and I enjoy it. Like a feather in my cap to walk next to the trophy.

SeaNotes
03-14-22, 16:05
Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?

LuvMexicanas
03-14-22, 18:14
Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?Yes, RTFF.

Dg8787
03-14-22, 18:52
Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?There are no such words of wisdom that can help you if you can't read and comprehend.

Enjoy HK.

MongerHunger
03-14-22, 19:03
Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?Reading is fundamental.

Captain Solo
03-14-22, 19:56
You can flirt, kiss, grope, poke, take pics hot bar girls all you want if they grant you approvals. You get their approvals by buying them fichas or by giving them reasonable tips. If you grope and don't tip they can call security and accuse you of sexual abuses, which will get you collared and evicted from the club.

The sharks would drink their fichas quickly, want you to buy more for them and for their friends, and give you little verbal or physical contacts. They are likely act like cold, dead fish in bed. Avoid them and find other girls. It's best to go around talking to girls, give them $ into the boobies or crotches to gauge if they are attracted or repulsed by you. The ones who smile and allow touching would be good for fichas for further in depth interviews. But the girls are there to work for a living. A lot of them hardly make any money in the club and are desperate. Don't try to take advantage of them and piss them off, as they can get management to ban you from the club.

Same for meseros. They have to pay for those jobs and live on tips. If you use their services you should tip them fairly, like at least $ per person per service. I also "tip" HK's door men and security guys occasionally so they don't make me and my wingmen buy the beer covers again and again as we go in and out of the club many times on weekends. Believe me these workers have amazing memories and are very reasonable and helpful when you treat them fairly.

I have seen first hand 2 perverts who sat at the stage jacking off to strippers. That seem to be the worst offense in HK as 5 or 6 security guys and meseros would quickly tackle and pin these guys down on the floor, put them in head locks and drag them out. One perv resisted against 6 meseros with all his muscles, got banged around and slammed on the floor quite a bit, grunting and groaning without any verbal protest.

They also have quick responses to fights, quickly determine the aggressive parties and remove them forcibly from the club.

Even if you have done something wrong and they collar you, you can always negotiate your way out of bad situations with words, gestures and propinas, like I have done a few times for my noob wingmen and many times for myself with policias.

Other than that anything goes in HK if you act nice, fair, reasonable to the girls and workers.

Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?

SeaNotes
03-14-22, 20:04
Yes, RTFF.Noted. Perhaps I should have been more specific. Is 80 dollars (or whatever the equivalent is in pesos) for 30 minutes a fair price as of today's date? I'm not going to sift through thousands upon thousands of forum posts, most of which now contain obsolete information or are irrelevant to me. Instead, I can ask a simple, direct question and (in theory, at least) receive a simple, direct answer.

Simmer
03-14-22, 20:35
Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?While others have said RTF, I am all too aware there is a LOT of reading to do to find the basics. I think if you search for trip reports it may lead you to more relevant information like "this happened and I paid X".

I've seen offers of wingmen to help show you the ropes. If you post a date then perhaps somebody will be kind enough to assist if they happen to be going at the same time.

Jackie888
03-14-22, 20:45
Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?When you first get there, plan your ass on a barstool and just absorb your environment for about 15 minutes. Don't buy a drink. Don't accept a girl. Just sit and watch. You'll figure out the games being played.

Nick5252
03-14-22, 23:27
When you first get there, plan your ass on a barstool and just absorb your environment for about 15 minutes. Don't buy a drink. Don't accept a girl. Just sit and watch. You'll figure out the games being played.BINGO!


Any words of wisdom for a first-timer such as myself so that I don't get eaten up by the Sharks?I did my first trip (3 nights) to Tijuana and HK recently. I highly recommend reading the forum. It's the only way to get a good understanding. Watch some videos on it as well. Perform the homework and your questions and maybe more will be answered. Trust me! Just like how I visit other countries, I perform a tremendous amount of homework in Tijuana. From SW, agencies, zone area, streets / routes around the zona area so I'm not flashing my phone, and some sites to visit. I hit up Adelita and HK.

The first day I hit up HK just to scope the scene and get familiar. This chica from MX city sat with me. Bought me and her some expensive drinks (I shouldn't). Wasn't planning on going to Aruba cause I knew I wasn't carrying the amount with me at the time. (Leave majority of your money at the hotel if you're sleeping in TIJ). After about 10-15 minutes, she departed and I left.

The following day I return in the evening. I hit up adelita. Found me a seat and sat. The girls were either on their phones or talking to another amigo. Nobody was dancing on the pole and I was constantly getting harnessed by the bartender trying to get me to buy a drink. So I departed and went to Hong Kong. Girls are better looking, and you pretty much are magnetic once you sit down. First I walk around, abs found a seat. I'll say 4 girls attack me. Some rubbing my dick, grinding, and having me either buy them a drink or Aruba. I push all 3 of them away but the last one. Don't recall her name (not here to wife them up). She kept pushing me in going to Aruba. I finally budge abs said sure. Benji to go up. I fck up by not specifying room (30), etc. Cut to the chase because this is becoming too much to type. I dropped 150, not including her drink or tip for the coat guy.

Conclusion: I will honestly probably never go back to HK, especially will never send a girl Aruba from HK if I choose to go. Like what other post mentioned, you seriously better off going with Agency girls or an SW (not preferably). But it was on my bucket list to do in TIJ and I fulfilled it. HAHA.

Also prepare to tip coat guy (wouldn't let me pass without tip, not trying to start issues in a foreign country) and guy cleaning the room after you get done. Don't recall reading about this during my countless nights on studying.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-15-22, 01:57
When you first get there, plan your ass on a barstool and just absorb your environment for about 15 minutes. Don't buy a drink. Don't accept a girl. Just sit and watch. You'll figure out the games being played.You don't have to give 1 $ to every girl that comes up to you asking for a tip especially if you didn't ask her for her attention. Don't stand in the middle of walkways otherwise meseros will literally push you out of their way (they are rude and unfriendly to people blocking the walking paths). Don't be unprofessional; treat all women respectfully as most of HK chicas are just mom's trying to make money for their kids.

BlackThought
03-15-22, 04:45
What's everyone's preference after doing business arriba. Do you prefer walking back down the stairs holding the girls hand and then going back into the club with her or is it your preference to immediately go your own way once you leave the hotel room without any hand holding or side by side walking or goodbyes? I personally find it awkward walking back out with a girl down the stairs and into the street with everyone staring at you.I stay in my room, no point walking them back down to the club. If I enjoyed the session, I get their #s.

BlackThought
03-15-22, 04:46
Noted. Perhaps I should have been more specific. Is 80 dollars (or whatever the equivalent is in pesos) for 30 minutes a fair price as of today's date? I'm not going to sift through thousands upon thousands of forum posts, most of which now contain obsolete information or are irrelevant to me. Instead, I can ask a simple, direct question and (in theory, at least) receive a simple, direct answer.They start with $100, but I believe some will go down to $80.

DasBooty
03-15-22, 07:59
Noted. Perhaps I should have been more specific. Is 80 dollars (or whatever the equivalent is in pesos) for 30 minutes a fair price as of today's date? I'm not going to sift through thousands upon thousands of forum posts, most of which now contain obsolete information or are irrelevant to me. Instead, I can ask a simple, direct question and (in theory, at least) receive a simple, direct answer.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2231-Hong-Kong-Club-Reports&p=2672082&viewfull=1#post2672082 my report from 1 week ago.

Less attractive girls will do 80$ / 30 min. Popular ones go for 100$ / 30 min. Applies Fri. -Sat.

BlackThought
03-15-22, 08:42
What the hell happened to all the talent, did the murders scare them off? I couldn't find anything, total fail.

BlackThought
03-15-22, 17:04
Seen the fat Arab guy last night taking the center tables with food / snack platters laid out, with a bunch of dollar bills scattered all over the floor. He definitely isn't taking the hottest girls, but he walks over to the stripper stage and makes it rain on the girls with like $100 in 1's and walks away without even touching the girl. This makes the rest of us tipping $1-2 to cop a feel look like cheap asses jaja.

I felt like the talent has downgraded from my last two visits, I see a lot of new faces, many more spinners (not really my type).

Adelitas had a decent crowd, talent was so-so.

Tropical was practically empty.

Chicago was even worse.

HK still has the best talent.

SomeDude321
03-15-22, 17:28
What the hell happened to all the talent, did the murders scare them off? I couldn't find anything, total fail.I agree. Quality of girls has been on the low end. And they're all asking for $100 USD. I'm not even bothering trying to negotiate.

Captain Solo
03-15-22, 19:29
BlackThought.

HK chicas are worn out partying and screwing all weekend, plus going to church on Sunday to repent their sins, so the hottest ones take a break Monday night.

Tuesday start to get better.

Cocr Brotheler
03-16-22, 00:58
"BINGO!

The chica fee if you do your due diligence up front with negotiation done right and the chemistry there is actually a good value. It is the overhead (tips, ST $30 room, mesero hassle factor, fiches etc.) that really adds up. Is why I like my own room just not 404.

I got a quality chica (not super model hot but attractive and tightest poos in my life ever) for $60 last Sept. But was a non peak time and she a noob (zona only 1 month). Also I speak basic Spanish.

Last Nov. Got another high quality for only $80 during busy time but think cause she was new to HK. Looked like an attractive SW all dolled up for HK!

Value can be found but still the overhead charges eat up the fun margins!

Dogers69
03-16-22, 03:46
What the hell happened to all the talent, did the murders scare them off? I couldn't find anything, total fail.Maybe the girls who look the best, are doing only fans. If I was a hot chick I would do only fans Instagram, wait till NFL player or rich Mexican starts talking to me, then bang him for money. I wouldn't be hanging out in HK unless my sex drive was like a guys, where different partners turns me on more than just a lot sex with same few guys. The options out there to make $$ for a woman who looks like a 9, are endless. Just doing tikntok in bikini will get you a following and then you wait for rich men to fly you to Cancun, Paris, Hawaii. It helps to have a visa.

HK Monger
03-16-22, 04:53
BINGO!

I push all 3 of them away but the last one. Don't recall her name (not here to wife them up). She kept pushing me in going to Aruba. I finally budge abs said sure. Benji to go up. I fck up by not specifying room (30), etc. Cut to the chase because this is becoming too much to type. I dropped 150, not including her drink or tip for the coat guy.She was probably disappointed because you didn't take her to "Aruba", just to the room upstairs! LOL.

PHXDude
03-16-22, 19:33
HK was feeling a little to pro for me. So I jumped over to Chicago Club, big talent drop for sure! I lock eyes with this little spinner all natural but she is with a guy, so I grab a seat enjoy a drink head to the restroom next thing I know this chick is in the bathroom tells me to relax soon we will drink. I though it was a little rude but about 10 minutes later mesero brings over new girl says something and the girl comes to me. Cut to the chase no kids, 23, from Sonora all natural no tattoos. She spends the night milking my wallet whatever though. I paid 190 for 1 HR in the jacuzzi room nice session really no limits except covered services that night, everything else was open literally. Good session we swapped numbers. About 8 PM yesterday (the next day) she texts me "hey want to go dancing, I will be leaving the club so I need 150 but we can go out all night and to your room. I say what the hell. I just spent 5 hrs with her the night before, she was a good session. Leaving a bunch out but we literally stay out until 5 AM, fun times dancing, grinding, kissing. Head to room at Hong Kong and things go a little south, I forgot to pick up a condom wrapper from a prior session with someone else, she stomps on the wrapper, gives me a glare and grabs her phone. I only speak broken Spanish and tells me I thought you where sincere! You want to treat me like a *hore then I will act like it give me money and we can keep this a business transaction, I inadvertently escalated it by saying if I am paying you then it is a transaction regardless. Seriously getting jealous I was a little shocked, I talked her down but the vibe changed for a while. Now comes my poor decision round 1 I use my last condom, round 2 starts while we are cuddling in the grind / heat of things I just stuck it in raw dog, we go to change position she says condom, I say I don't have any, so we no longer need to continue, I get up but she pulls me down and we continue to raw dog. Head to HK for some morning Tequila sunrises on about 30 minutes of sleep, after a little while I tell her I have to head to the border so I need to pack my room. She asks to come up to say goodbye bad choice number 2 another raw dog session. I felt bad basically had to push her put of the room. Walked her down the street to meet with a friend from the club she was really drunk. Sorry for the long post just wanted to share what felt like a great / bad / ok experience all at the same time. And yes I do say plenty of nice things to the girls complimenting their clothes, eyes, ect. Less sexual to help get better service sometimes it works sometimes not.

Captain Solo
03-16-22, 22:19
PhxDude,

Great first post.

Chicago girls are mostly older, chunky and homely. HK still has some of the sweetest-looking and most glammy young girls in Tijuana.

Bar girls are all hurting for business after the reopening. This girl sensed you are a nice, generous guy, a big spender. She wanted to make you an exclusive client and throw a little jealousy fit for drama. In their manipulation, you are not allowed to flirt with or screw other girls and should feel very guilty when you cheat on her, but she can screw 100 guys every week, all good and proper. Bar girls play these silly games to keep guys hooked with love and lust for them.

Looked like you are already got hooked on her. Glad you had some hot sessions.

Dogers69
03-17-22, 02:03
HK was feeling a little to pro for me. So I jumped over to Chicago Club, big talent drop for sure! I lock eyes with this little spinner all natural but she is with a guy, so I grab a seat enjoy a drink head to the restroom next thing I know this chick is in the bathroom tells me to relax soon we will drink. I though it was a little rude but about 10 minutes later mesero brings over new girl says something and the girl comes to me. Cut to the chase no kids, 23, from Sonora all natural no tattoos. She spends the night milking my wallet whatever though. I paid 190 for 1 HR in the jacuzzi room nice session really no limits except covered services that night, everything else was open literally. Good session we swapped numbers. About 8 PM yesterday (the next day) she texts me "hey want to go dancing, I will be leaving the club so I need 150 but we can go out all night and to your room. I say what the hell. I just spent 5 hrs with her the night before, she was a good session. Leaving a bunch out but we literally stay out until 5 AM, fun times dancing, grinding, kissing. Head to room at Hong Kong and things go a little south, I forgot to pick up a condom wrapper from a prior session with someone else, she stomps on the wrapper, gives me a glare and grabs her phone. I only speak broken Spanish and tells me I thought you where sincere! You want to treat me like a *hore then I will act like it give me money and we can keep this a business transaction, I inadvertently escalated it by saying if I am paying you then it is a transaction regardless. Seriously getting jealous I was a little shocked, I talked her down but the vibe changed for a while. Now comes my poor decision round 1 I use my last condom, round 2 starts while we are cuddling in the grind / heat of things I just stuck it in raw dog, we go to change position she says condom, I say I don't have any, so we no longer need to continue, I get up but she pulls me down and we continue to raw dog. Head to HK for some morning Tequila sunrises on about 30 minutes of sleep, after a little while I tell her I have to head to the border so I need to pack my room. She asks to come up to say goodbye bad choice number 2 another raw dog session.Wow this qualifies as most guys dream come true Tijuana visit. If guys could find this even 10% of their time all major cities would have flights just for HK trips. There's guys who bang enough tinder girls, that this experience might not sound so wonderful. But once that ends from age or economics, a guy would consider this the best experience in decades. I made a girl cry once, who I never slept with but she slept in my hotel 2 nights, I had bought her like 50 beers in 2 months, she saw my conversation on Google translate. I just assumed she knew I go to all the bars every night.

SeaBeeJoe
03-17-22, 19:03
Wow this qualifies as most guys dream come true Tijuana visit. If guys could find this even 10% of their time all major cities would have flights just for HK trips. There's guys who bang enough tinder girls, that this experience might not sound so wonderful. But once that ends from age or economics, a guy would consider this the best experience in decades. I made a girl cry once, who I never slept with but she slept in my hotel 2 nights, I had bought her like 50 beers in 2 months, she saw my conversation on Google translate. I just assumed she knew I go to all the bars every night.Was the girls stage name Veronica?

BlackThought
03-17-22, 19:21
Maybe the girls who look the best, are doing only fans. If I was a hot chick I would do only fans Instagram, wait till NFL player or rich Mexican starts talking to me, then bang him for money. I wouldn't be hanging out in HK unless my sex drive was like a guys, where different partners turns me on more than just a lot sex with same few guys. The options out there to make $$ for a woman who looks like a 9, are endless. Just doing tikntok in bikini will get you a following and then you wait for rich men to fly you to Cancun, Paris, Hawaii. It helps to have a visa.Onlyfans has been lucrative for a lot of hot women. Some are making over $1 M / month!

Dogers69
03-17-22, 22:10
Was the girls stage name Veronica?I don't know but she was from Guatemala or Honduras.

Gregyyr
03-18-22, 04:22
Will be down at HK Friday afternoon if want to connect up and share a bit of mongering adventures pvt message me.

G.

BlackThought
03-18-22, 19:23
HK talent has gone way down from December and even January.

Only did two this trip.

24 year old (looked 18-20) that didn't speak English. Covered BJ, seemed very new to sex as she didn't know howta ride me properly, kept fucking up the rhythm. So I just flipped her over doggy and I noticed a fishy odor (not that strong, can turn head to the side to avoid it), then flipped her to missionary and finished. I should've bought her a drink to feel her out, but I was in a rush as I wanted to go to bed. Forgot her name.

25 year old that was fluent in English, apparently she grew up in the states and was deported in her late teens. Really pretty face with fake tits and lots of tattoos (looks like a suicide girl). Covered BJ, she knew howta ride really well and was enjoying it. Then flipped her doggy and the fishy smell was overpowering. Went limp within 10 minutes and the entire room smelled like fish.

I was done with both of them by the 15 minute mark as fishy pussy kills my boner, but they both just hung around the room for an additional 15-20 minutes, is it because management would question them if they left the room in under 30 minutes?

I asked 4 girls "oral sin condom?" And they all said no. I was able to get BBBJ without even asking from every girl my first two trips, not sure why I've been SOL this trip. My friend said only 1 out the 4 he fucked offered BBBJ, the rest refused.

MamaGuevos
03-18-22, 19:34
I have now been to HK twice, the latest time last night. Both times, the club was packed, with at least half of the women looking great and the usual top 10% looking special. I would say that there were 25% more chicas than men.

Here is what I cannot understand. Most of the girls don't seem to want to make eye contact with me, and I don't approach a girl who is not inviting me into her life in that way. That isn't to say that I have gone home lonely, but I am used to walking around a club and smiling and saying Hola to most of the women. I got two or three who said "Hi want to go to a room" (in Spanish), but the ones that really caught my interest were more interested in their cell phones or their shoe laces. I am not referring to just the truly hot girls, and the ones I did take to the Cascadas after some great effort were very nice.

Should I be approaching the chicas more aggressively? There was always a crowd when there was an open bottle but I am not a true extrovert nor can I drink a lot without getting sick.

I recognize that being in my 60's, some girls think I am too old, but they are going to the rooms with (I apologize if I offend anyone) fat guys in their 40's and 50's whom I could run circles around physically (I am very seriously into fitness). And, I speak Spanish nearly fluently. I have had lots of success in boates in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo, I have extensive experience in the brothels of Spain, etc- so this inattention seems odd to me.

Am I simply misreading the girls, or is there a different way of doing business in Mexico? Thanks.

P.S. The police were out in the red light district in force last night. I did not see any in HK, however. But I agree that something must be going on. I have gotten used to 20-20 year old guys brandishing sub machine guns over the years, but it is a bit alarming.

Captain Solo
03-18-22, 23:06
Went in HK 7 PM Wednesday March 16. HK has returned in its sexy, exuberant nature with this year Bikini contest, with 8 to 10 new, hot, young contestants in sexy bikinis, strutting on long catwalks, showing off their beautiful bodies and pretty faces under spot lights, old sleazy Chui as a noisy, sometimes obscene MC, video and cameramen recording like a real fashion show.

HK set up a small free bar inside the front door giving out free mixed drinks to orders. The crowd was average for midweek. The crowd was cheering and jeering with MC Chui. They finally picked a very beautiful girl in her sequined bikini for a winner.

Fat Fake Fuck, with his black beard and usual cheap dark blue T shirt over his huge low life belly, got on the stage, rained hundreds $ on the girls in the process, taking stacks of greens handed to him smoothly by a mesero standing below him on the floor. The green rain was obviously faked by HK with this fat guy employed to jazz up HK's classiness and prime the propina rains with big spenders.

The 2 dozen tables around the stage were all reserved with unopened bottles waiting for clients. 6 tables had $400 Don Julio 1942, a few $650 Solarium gold flake Tequilas, $500 Macallan 15 and others. But more than half of the reserved tables were unoccupied with unopened bottles during the show. Meseros just blocked them off waiting for fake clients to show. The few groups of guys with their expensive bottles were only watching and did not follow Fat Fake Fuck to make it rain hehe. The rains were HK's fake money as I never saw girls divide out the loot or tip the stage handlers as usual. FFF was hanging out near the bar with his huge belly and his hand on the perfect butt of the young and hot winner girl in her green sequined bikini. The Don Julio 70 bottle on his table was never opened. She's a new hot young girl I have not seen in HK, with pretty face, beautiful sexy body, perfect skin, no tats. Damn. I wanted to check her out but she never left FFF.

In between a few regular strippers did their gigs, Maria with her pimpled face, curly brown hair and chunky body, a shark with her winggirl Zulma and her disgusting dead-fish pussy. Then the pretty spinner Tanya was doing her acrobatic routine on the hoop, with her long, shiny, straight black hair, skinny body and perky A cups, perfect skin. She just added 2 tats to the right side of her beautiful spinner body, which was just very stupid.

HK brought in a viola duo with 2 fat guys with black beards in black clothes, playing some very odd, jarring, dissonant, unrecognizable music for 2 unknown strippers. They were probably in the same gang as Fat Fuck, may be Armenians with their huge black beards. Again FFF got on stage, raining greens on these 2 viola guys.

This event was obviously staged as a show piece for FFF to prime the propina rains, but lots of reserved tables were unoccupied with unopened bottles, and the guys did not follow FFF in his phony and tacky raining. Attention was focused on the event. Most girls were not doing any business, bought fichas or taken arribas, hanging out in the club looking disappointed and desperate.

HK is a fun place to party with hot girls but it's pushing itself up as an upscale, high-class entertaining venue with expensive table service, huge propina rains, stuck-up girls with alleged dead-fish pussies, and it could get way more expensive soon.

We got disgusted at HK's continual phony events with annoying FFF priming the propina rain every night, so took off to Tropical. , left the young wingman with his slutty HK girl at the bar. He said he had a very hot and sexy session with her and bed. Good for him!

AmorPorFavor
03-19-22, 00:53
HK talent has gone way down from December and even January.

Only did two this trip.

24 year old (looked 18-20) that didn't speak English. Covered BJ, seemed very new to sex as she didn't know howta ride me properly, kept fucking up the rhythm. So I just flipped her over doggy and I noticed a fishy odor (not that strong, can turn head to the side to avoid it), then flipped her to missionary and finished. I should've bought her a drink to feel her out, but I was in a rush as I wanted to go to bed. Forgot her name.

25 year old that was fluent in English, apparently she grew up in the states and was deported in her late teens. Really pretty face with fake tits and lots of tattoos (looks like a suicide girl). Covered BJ, she knew howta ride really well and was enjoying it. Then flipped her doggy and the fishy smell was overpowering. Went limp within 10 minutes and the entire room smelled like fish.

I was done with both of them by the 15 minute mark as fishy pussy kills my boner, but they both just hung around the room for an additional 15-20 minutes, is it because management would question them if they left the room in under 30 minutes?

I asked 4 girls "oral sin condom?" And they all said no. I was able to get BBBJ without even asking from every girl my first two trips, not sure why I've been SOL this trip. My friend said only 1 out the 4 he fucked offered BBBJ, the rest refused.Nice report. I stay away from doing them doggie because that is when you will get the worst smells from rotten pussy. I only do it if I am sure they are clean with the finger test. I will only take a girl up if she agrees to BBBJ. I will pay an extra $20 for it if they are extra hot so I offer up that if they say no at first and it works sometimes. OK well I have fucked a few with covered BJ here and there (not necessarily at HK) but they have to be smoking hot.

Dogers69
03-19-22, 01:31
Went in HK 7 PM Wednesday March 16. HK has returned in its sexy, exuberant nature with this year Bikini contest, with 8 to 10 new, hot, young contestants in sexy bikinis, strutting on long catwalks, showing off their beautiful bodies and pretty faces under spot lights, old sleazy Chui as a noisy, sometimes obscene MC, video and cameramen recording like a real fashion show.

HK set up a small free bar inside the front door giving out free mixed drinks to orders. The crowd was average for midweek. The crowd was cheering and jeering with MC Chui. They finally picked a very beautiful girl in her sequined bikini for a winner.

Fat Fake Fuck, with his black beard and usual cheap dark blue T shirt over his huge low life belly, got on the stage, rained hundreds $ on the girls in the process, taking stacks of greens handed to him smoothly by a mesero standing below him on the floor. The green rain was obviously faked by HK with this fat guy employed to jazz up HK's classiness and prime the propina rains with big spenders.

The 2 dozen tables around the stage were all reserved with unopened bottles waiting for clients. 6 tables had $400 Don Julio 1942, a few $650 Solarium gold flake Tequilas, $500 Macallan 15 and others. But more than half of the reserved tables were unoccupied with unopened bottles during the show. Meseros just blocked them off waiting for fake clients to show. The few groups of guys with their expensive bottles were only watching and did not follow Fat Fake Fuck to make it rain hehe. The rains were HK's fake money as I never saw girls divide out the loot or tip the stage handlers as usual. FFF was hanging out near the bar with his huge belly and his hand on the perfect butt of the young and hot winner girl in her green sequined bikini. The Don Julio 70 bottle on his table was never opened. She's a new hot young girl I have not seen in HK, with pretty face, beautiful sexy body, perfect skin, no tats. Damn. I wanted to check her out but she never left FFF.I watched this guy making it rain all winter 3 nights week from thanksgiving to valentines day. If I went to hk for 40 minutes, 3 nights week, I literally saw him every time. Being skeptical, I thought he worked for hk. Its good to see solo saying same thing. Tonight, in Florida strip club girls talk to me for free, no masero, no begging for tips. Hot Americans Russians Thailand girls, beers went up now $5. 50. The difference from here, to hk, is these girls have the opportunity and time to turn me on, to bang them, that Tijuana doesn't provide. But to bang them likely I valves VIP rooms and $400 so its just dances for me.

Captain Solo
03-19-22, 01:39
Mamaguevos,

Do you look like Jack the Ripper by any chance?

Lots of HK girls are young and shy. Just approach them smile tip and squeeze them to break the ice. Turn on your charms and seduce them for hot sessions. I know a few guys older than you who have lots of success.

Lots of girls approach me for fichas or arribas. I always smile and compliment and tip them before sending them away.

Gregyyr
03-19-22, 06:26
Mamaguevos,

Do you look like Jack the Ripper by any chance?

Lots of HK girls are young and shy. Just approach them smile tip and squeeze them to break the ice. Turn on your charms and seduce them for hot sessions. I know a few guys older than you who have lots of success.

Lots of girls approach me for fichas or arribas. I always smile and compliment and tip them before sending them away.You are so correct. This gorgeous girl who wasn't smiling too much when looking at her from a distance. I moved over by her and said Hello,. And she turned out to be very sweet!! My initial perceptions were totally wrong.

G.

Gregyyr
03-19-22, 07:00
Went down to HK Friday afternoon hitching a ride from a coworker who lives down there with his wife and kids. I popped a Viagra about 3 pm at work so it would kick in, in a couple hours. Before heading to Tijuana I always have this little voice in my head saying I should not go solo as I may run into trouble. Of course I ignore that little voice in my head and thank god as I normally have a Very Good time. Got dropped off at HK and I love that you can check your back pack at the desk when going into HK as I normally bring a few extra items that I don't want to stuff in my pockets etc.

I wandered around HK for a bit slowly checking out the sights and recognizing a few girls I have seen there in the past. Only one that I remember screwing pre-covid. There were 3 beautiful spinners that had that body type I just love but rarely do I find 3 of them all there that early in the evening. The place was hopping with tons of girls by about 5:00 pm.

While walking by one of the slender spinners and said Hello, and I didn't expect a sweet greeting back but that's how she responded. I stopped and after a few basic questions I realized her English was fucked. And my Spanish not much better but I loved this girls body so much it didn't matter and off we went for a drink. After about half of the drink being gone we started negotiating money. She wanted $100 of course and I said 40 minutes. She said she thought they only give 35. So then I asked ok if I took a picture. (no head). And she said ok. That was a done deal!

I feel bad that these girls need to wear high heels. Frickin a nightmare to walk in. When going up to Cascada's she tripped a bit but didn't go all the way to the ground. I just wish they could wear tennis shoes. They would still look gorgeous!

Once in the room I took a quick shower and we got busy. She let me put my fingers inside her which is rare for hookers. She was ok with a little light kissing which I Love! The stereotype for hookers is they fake sexy noises and this girls expressions were just so real. Maybe she is just a good actress? Or she actually seemed to be enjoying getting fucked by a guy 30+ years older than her and probably two times her weight.

Had a great time and got together downstairs again after for a drink, then over to the dance room for some semi naked lap dances. I pulled my pants down a bit and she was fine with stroking Jr a bit.

It's rare to get girls that will do all this stuff and be easy going. Going to try to see her next week before she leaves Tijuana.

G.

MamaGuevos
03-19-22, 16:01
Mamaguevos,

Do you look like Jack the Ripper by any chance?

Lots of HK girls are young and shy. Just approach them smile tip and squeeze them to break the ice. Turn on your charms and seduce them for hot sessions. I know a few guys older than you who have lots of success.

Lots of girls approach me for fichas or arribas. I always smile and compliment and smile tip them before sending them away.I should "smile tip" the chica as I approach them? Do you mean by this that maybe a dollar bill or two gently placed in her palm or garter followed by a greeting is what it takes to break the ice? I just generally feel odd introducing myself to a girl who is absorbed in her text messages.

As for my looks, I have my hair, good teeth, the body of a older marathon runner (a hobby of mine) and I dress casually but nicely enough that I could stop in at the office (if it were open) on my way home. If I ever return, I will push myself to be less retiring and make my own introductions rather than wait for a girl to smile at me as evidence of an invitation.

BlackThought
03-19-22, 16:29
Nice report. I stay away from doing them doggie because that is when you will get the worst smells from rotten pussy. I only do it if I am sure they are clean with the finger test. I will only take a girl up if she agrees to BBBJ. I will pay an extra $20 for it if they are extra hot so I offer up that if they say no at first and it works sometimes. OK well I have fucked a few with covered BJ here and there (not necessarily at HK) but they have to be smoking hot.Two of them actually gave me a disgusted look when I asked for BBBJ like I offended them. CBJ is really difficult to enjoy, I practically gave up on my second night and ended up just jerking off to some porn in the room jaja. I don't think I could've handled a fishy pussy for the third time. I miss Germany FKK clubs, BBBJ is the standard, no stinky pussies, and no annoying ass meseros pushing drinks.

BlackThought
03-19-22, 16:46
Fat Fake Fuck, with his black beard and usual cheap dark blue T shirt over his huge low life belly, got on the stage, rained hundreds $ on the girls in the process, taking stacks of greens handed to him smoothly by a mesero standing below him on the floor. The green rain was obviously faked by HK with this fat guy employed to jazz up HK's classiness and prime the propina rains with big spenders.I know people say to just ignore the fat Armenian, but it's really difficult to do so as he loves the attention. When the rest of us were enjoying the stripper dancing on the main stage, he would have the DJ change the music to some strange Turkish music and the chica would have no clue how to dance to it. The sensual sexy dance turns into some awkward dance and fucks up the mood jaja. I saw him Monday night, but did not see him Tuesday night. He definitely doesn't take the top talent, out of the 10 girls at his booth I probably would've paid to fuck only one of them. He seems to like the spinners, you like spinners too, which is probably why you hate this guy so much jajaja.

Rambo1969
03-19-22, 20:41
I know people say to just ignore the fat Armenian, but it's really difficult to do so as he loves the attention. When the rest of us were enjoying the stripper dancing on the main stage, he would have the DJ change the music to some strange Turkish music and the chica would have no clue how to dance to it. The sensual sexy dance turns into some awkward dance and fucks up the mood jaja. I saw him Monday night, but did not see him Tuesday night. He definitely doesn't take the top talent, out of the 10 girls at his booth I probably would've paid to fuck only one of them. He seems to like the spinners, you like spinners too, which is probably why you hate this guy so much jajaja.I like the fat guy because of his generosity. I want the employees and gals to make money and be happy. The more he spends the less we need to spend / tip. He only takes a few gals and there are plenty of other gals.

It is ludicrous to think he is an HK employee or that his is making is rain with HK money. It would be a huge waste of money and it in facts reduces how much money others throw on stage when is making it rain. When is making it rain there is very little other tipping to the stage girls. HK management is too smart to waste that money. They also would to be so subservient to him if he was just an employee.

Captain Solo
03-19-22, 21:04
Greggy.

She looks sweet, a good find.

Get her tel for future hook up.

It's rare to get girls that will do all this stuff and be easy going. Going to try to see her next week before she leaves Tijuana.

Captain Solo
03-19-22, 21:58
Mamaguevos.

I was sitting in my car waiting for a bro to drive down to Tijuana Friday afternoon, responded to your post on my phone, so It got jumbled up. It should have said:

Lots of girls approach me for fichas or arribas. I always smile, compliment and tip them before sending them away.

Girls love to be told how nice, sweet, beautiful, lovely they are and how you are so much in love. I don't speak much Spanish but the loving gestures and expressions on your face should soften and open them up for sweet, loving relationships. Lots of HK girls are , naive, sweet, shy, not hardened. They love to be flattered and would rather have phony bullshit than nasty truths. It works most time, even with civie women. A smile, an admiring glance, a compliment can make even righteous women get drippy wet between their legs. Shakespeare also said that according to our fun friend Elvis, hehe.

The bro, pseudo name Mikhail, who went down with me Friday afternoon was from out of state, had not been to Tijuana for 20 years and was apprehensive of lots of things. HK was packed. He was dazzled by all the hot girls in new, huge HK, the complete opposite of the small, dark, sleazy HK bar with a few old, skanky strippers in 2000. We were wandering around the club, checking out over a hundred hot young girls then sat at the bar watching the strip show. The hot girl, who won the Bikini Contest on Wednesday, was hanging out with FFF, very pretty, tall girl with beautiful body, nice light skin, no tat, but she had a butt job and her larger than usual butt cheeks were wrinkled and sagging at the bottom. She probably never knew that her natural butt may be a tad smaller but would have been far more beautiful and attractive. There's no way to reverse the damages now. Damn.

We were sitting at the bar watching the hot girls surrounding FFF. Mikhail later told me he really liked the Bikini winner girl, but never made the move to talk to her. We ran into some friends and sat with them at the stairs where dozens girls lean on the rails, wiggling their butts to music. I suggested Mikhail to walk around the bar and pick his favorite girls, but he was just sitting there for a long time, absorbing the sexy ambiance in a daze. I did not want to push him to do anything. Eventually a pair of girls walked by, sat on his lap, squeezed and embraced him, sticking their tongues into his mouth, playing, laughing ect. Got to admit they were beautiful, fun, sexy and seductive. He bought the pair a couple fichas then when they suggested a threesome, he quickly agreed. He said both gave him undivided attention with 20 minutes each in bed.

He was passive but still got a very good session with 2 willing sex partners in HK. Conversely, if he was hunting aggressively for the hottest girls, he may have gotten a terrible session with BlackThought's fish dealer hehe. That was what I did, picked up the hottest girl I always wanted to do and had a rotten session with a stuck up, angry WG. So Mikhail's passive approach may work better for some guys who feel more comfortable being approached by girls.

HK is a good training ground for human relations with people, guys, girls, meseros, security. Young sheltered guys should stop jacking to porn at home, instead hang out in HK, try out and refine their people skills for better, sexier, more loving and more satisfying relationships with women in their real lives.

TheMan31
03-20-22, 04:00
I have now been to HK twice, the latest time last night. Both times, the club was packed, with at least half of the women looking great and the usual top 10% looking special. I would say that there were 25% more chicas than men.

Here is what I cannot understand. Most of the girls don't seem to want to make eye contact with me, and I don't approach a girl who is not inviting me into her life in that way. That isn't to say that I have gone home lonely, but I am used to walking around a club and smiling and saying Hola to most of the women. I got two or three who said "Hi want to go to a room" (in Spanish), but the ones that really caught my interest were more interested in their cell phones or their shoe laces. I am not referring to just the truly hot girls, and the ones I did take to the Cascadas after some great effort were very nice.

Should I be approaching the chicas more aggressively? There was always a crowd when there was an open bottle but I am not a true extrovert nor can I drink a lot without getting sick.Buddy if you want their attention you need money! LOL What are you confused about?

KBToys
03-20-22, 11:07
Buddy if you want their attention you need money! LOL What are you confused about?Yeah I think they would be pretty receptive to a couple of dollars and some conversation. They aren't mind readers and you have to make some kind of effort to show you're interested or you'll get the desperate ladies asking for a dollar to rub up against you. Most of the time they are not the most attractive.

BlackThought
03-20-22, 20:06
Conversely, if he was hunting aggressively for the hottest girls, he may have gotten a terrible session with BlackThought's fish dealer hehe.Jajaja that's exactly what happened to me. I was being very picky and was on a hunt for a dime piece. Was enjoying a drink with a HK chica by the main stage and a hot chica came up to dance, I knew I had to have her. I ditched the HK girl that I was sitting with after the show and approached the hottie for a ficha. She agreed and we went over to the booth, after two fichas and some ass grinding I took her Arribas. I was convinced I hit the jackpot and was happy I took my time being choosy, then 10 minutes into session the fishy smell destroyed that dream. For the remainder of the day, I just got an awesome massage at a spa and jerked off in the room jaja. I just bought a new VIP card, so I'll likely go once more before it expires.

Gregyyr
03-21-22, 05:56
Greggy.

She looks sweet, a good find.

Get her tel for future hook up.

It's rare to get girls that will do all this stuff and be easy going. Going to try to see her next week before she leaves Tijuana.Messaged ya. Hope you connect up or hope she can get back to Tijuana soon.

G.

Gregyyr
03-21-22, 06:01
Yeah I think they would be pretty receptive to a couple of dollars and some conversation. They aren't mind readers and you have to make some kind of effort to show you're interested or you'll get the desperate ladies asking for a dollar to rub up against you. Most of the time they are not the most attractive.Ironically I would say 75% of my best fucks with HK girls caught me by surprise when just approaching them as I did not think they would give me the time of day etc. Some girls (a small percentage) are a bit snobby. They know they are hot as hell and it comes across in their personality and it's does not come across as anyone you would want to spend time with. I remember buying this spinner drinks a few weeks ago with the bro's when we met up and when I was just trying to get a little feel or other things she totally shut it down. I thought screw that shit I would never take her upstairs no matter how beautiful her body was.

Mind you I am over 50 years old and over 200 LBS. Etc. So always surprised when they are just so sweet and great to mess around with!

G.

Gregyyr
03-21-22, 06:34
Can only stay a couple hours but any bro's down on Monday afternoon to HK holler if want to connect up for a Hello.

G.

Nothing24
03-22-22, 02:39
25 year old that was fluent in English, apparently she grew up in the states and was deported in her late teens. Really pretty face with fake tits and lots of tattoos (looks like a suicide girl). Covered BJ, she knew howta ride really well and was enjoying it. Then flipped her doggy and the fishy smell was overpowering. Went limp within 10 minutes and the entire room smelled like fish.I know who you're talking about. Did she say she used to live in Texas? Sucks to hear because she's been on my to do list for a while. How much was she charging? If you hadn't smelled anything would she have been worth the trip upstairs?

BlackThought
03-22-22, 03:21
I know who you're talking about. Did she say she used to live in Texas? Sucks to hear because she's been on my to do list for a while. How much was she charging? If you hadn't smelled anything would she have been worth the trip upstairs?Yes! That's her (Texas). $120 for 30 minutes, she loves weed, so we enjoyed smoking in the room. Angel wing tattoos on her entire back. CBJ and she rode pretty well. If she didn't smell and you're solely in it for optics, then yes she is really hot.

Dakota5369
03-22-22, 06:14
I went back a couple weeks ago for the first time since before covid. Unfortunately I didn't see my regular girl there. Her name was Paola and she isn't my normal type, but I just couldn't gt enough of her. She was a tiny blonde thing who went by Paola. Had braces and always wore a school girl outfit. She was just amazing. Anyone seen her recently? I am going in a couple weeks and would like to see her again.

Instead I hooked up with this other short girl. She was amazing. Short, huge boobs and really into it. I forget her name, but for some reason I wasn't into it. It was nothing she did, I think I just prefer some sort of kink to be fulfilled when I go and not just having some really hot girl. Like Paola was a tiny school girl. I had my eye on this other girl who was dressed in Japanese clothes. I really wished I had gone with her even though she wasn't as hot as some of the others.

Captain Solo
03-25-22, 07:09
Short girl with huge bobs and huge butt may be Belen. Her boobies and butt are huge, way out of proportion for her size and height. She walks funny and looks unattractive.

A few years back she was an infatuation for one poster in this forum. He was writing a romantic novel about her, posting daily. He spoke no Spanish and was relying on a Hispanic friend to do all the translating. She was playing him hard. I cannot understand how anyone could be infatuated with an unattractive girl without direct communication, but bar girls know how to play games to hook guys.

Captain Solo
03-25-22, 08:05
A few wingmen are young and very hard partyers, heavy drinkers. Every weekend they would fly off somewhere for raves where they can hook up with hot girls all sexed up with molly.

They said in Las Vegas night clubs a bottle of Don Julio 1942 goes for $1,750, Remy Martin XO $2.500. If you wave those bottles around in Omnia and Xs, you would get a lot of hot Asian Baby Girls coming over to party. A couple young guys reportedly blew over $100 K in Vegas night clubs, trying to impress those ABGs, did not get to fuck any of them. Could not even grope them. AB Girls just want to drink expensive liquors and party in fancy night clubs. That's it. ABGs would never take their panties down, regardless how many $100 K you spend hehe.

The same $100 K young guy went to Tijuana first time with me, walking in the alley to HK's back door. He spotted a street girl whom he must have, walked in HK for 2 minutes and had to walk back out to the alley quickly to bag that street girl. He got Mila, small frame, light skin, no tats, a slutty smile on her pretty face. She looks attractive in nice, clean ways and could turn heads if she walks down the street in SoCal. He got a couple hot sessions with her without having to drop big money and get down to his knee to pray and beg hehe. His cousins heard his story and flew in to visit afyen, asking him to take them to Tijuana. Some weeks he went down 4 times with them.

HK charges only $450 for DJ 1942, $500 Macallan 15, $650 for Gold Solarium, way cheap with 100% assurance of hot sex with hot girls, all you can fuck all night. It's drawing a big chunk of the Vegas party crowd, running propina rains a couple hundred $ each time, all preparing to jack up prices to premium levels for the hottest and most fun sexperiences.

Presently I know a few guys would easily drop a couple thousands $ for a night of sexy fun. Soon there will be a lot more of them. HK is gradually driving out the low spenders. Soon average joes will be hanging out in bar Gloria ogling old, wrinkled, droopy dead-fish pussies hehe.

SomeDude321
03-25-22, 18:13
Presently I know a few guys would easily drop a couple thousands $ for a night of sexy fun. Soon there will be a lot more of them. HK is gradually driving out the low spenders. Soon average joes will be hanging out in bar Gloria ogling old, wrinkled, droopy dead-fish pussies hehe.On the last night I was there a few weeks ago, a chick initially asked for $120. After a few fichas and lap dances, I noticed she had huge see-section scars. I flat out told her: best I can do is $80. If you want $120 for that she's out of damn mind. These big spender are going to inflate the prices. Again.

Jackie888
03-25-22, 20:47
Short girl with huge bobs and huge butt may be Belen. Her boobies and butt are huge, way out of proportion for her size and height. She walks funny and looks unattractive.

A few years back she was an infatuation for one poster in this forum. He was writing a romantic novel about her, posting daily. He spoke no Spanish and was relying on a Hispanic friend to do all the translating. She was playing him hard. I cannot understand how anyone could be infatuated with an unattractive girl without direct communication, but bar girls know how to play games to hook guys.Personally I think we are still feeling the effect of Covid. Guys were flying into Tijuana because it was the only game left in North America. But soon people will go back to doing what they were doing before Covid out of convenience and prices will stabilize. Sure we will still had the morons that compare things to NY City. But they will be back to the office and flying to San Diego ain't going to be that fun any more.

Captain Solo
03-25-22, 21:33
SomeDude,

HK girls are always on the look out with their hawk eyes, looove to see noobs walking into the joint, quickly latch on to them, quote high prices and most times get their deals. Uniformed noobs would gladly pay $150 for a 30 minute session with the first hot young girls the meet.

But if you go to HK often, the girls know your spending patterns. Quite a few hot ones would go for $50-60 if they know you won't spend more. 1,000 pesos or $50 plus propina is a good offer to discreetly make to HK girls. They would settle for a little higher to save face. Ask and thou shall receive. Shakespeare said that hehe.

Besides girls currently working in the club, guys have contact infos for a number of ex HK girls, now independent escorts, who can give better sessions with less time constraints and lower rates. Also a number of ex HK girls are now working on the streets. They have not changed physically but their street rates are about 1/5 HK's. They do lower rates but make surer incomes compared to unsteady incomes with the over supply of girls inside HK.

Cocr Brotheler
03-25-22, 21:57
On the last night I was there a few weeks ago, a chick initially asked for $120. After a few fichas and lap dances, I noticed she had huge see-section scars. I flat out told her: best I can do is $80. If you want $120 for that she's out of damn mind. These big spender are going to inflate the prices. Again.I think it is the same crew that ruined Costa Rica is now ruining Tijuana because but many are not traveling outside USA Right now until negative testing on incoming international flights eased. USA Air travel industry lobbying hard to lift the negative testing requirement they must be feeling hard the decrease in Intl travel:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/02/airlines-ask-biden-to-drop-covid-testing-for-vaccinated-travelers-before-us-bound-flights.html

There was another article this week just can't find it.

When is lifted I think there will be less demand in Tijuana and better for us budget mongers.

Also many economists are predicting a very harsh recession then a lot of the floaty floatly money goes away.

Al least there is still value in SGs, multi-pop escorts and some HK chicas!

Gregyyr
03-26-22, 00:08
First time ever been to HK on a Monday night. A Mexico City spinner from Friday gave me her number and said she was working Monday before going home Tuesday.

Her communication texting was fairly good so I had some confidence it would happen.

But of course once I got down there I couldn't find her in the club and could not get a response texting. I roamed HK a while and then headed over to Adelitas as there was a girl from Colombia I heard about that I wanted to check out. She was nice but absolutely no English and while it was nice to buy her a couple drinks and gave her some extra tip her size really wasn't my thing for wanting to take her upstairs.

It was good to experience Monday in Zona Norte for a couple hours and I got tired of waiting on her so took another girl upstairs who I had seen at HK before, only to realize I had screwed her before. And didn't want to again. She had big ol scar from being a mom and her breath was not good. Plus she was ok with me using my rubber but she wanted to use her KY jelly shit. It feels fine for about 1 minute but then is a stick mess like fucking with grape jelly or something!

If you have ever used Astroglide compared to KY Jelly you know what I mean. Happy to use what she chooses but on top of the whole experience she doesn't know shit about lube.

In HK I did talk her down $10 from $100 before going upstairs but before going up stairs but still regretted it. We took a little shower after which was nice and her personality did help to enjoy the time a bit. But not $90 worth!!

I had my hopes up so high with the Mexico City girl and between screwing the girl with bad breath and not tracking down Ms Mexico City. I was a bit bummed out which is not normal in HK-Land.

On the way home I got a text from Ms. Mexico saying they didn't allow her to work Monday. Which who knows if it's true. Guess she didn't need another $100 or hopefully was getting screwed by another guy at least for some cash.

That was the good. Bad and the ugly of Monday.

G.

Rambo1969
03-26-22, 18:17
Presently I know a few guys would easily drop a couple thousands $ for a night of sexy fun. Soon there will be a lot more of them. HK is gradually driving out the low spenders..What makes you wrote HK is gradually driving out the low spenders?

How exactly are they doing that?

I am grateful for the big spenders in the club since the sponsor the fun for low spenders like me.

Jackie888
03-26-22, 19:54
SomeDude,

HK girls are always on the look out with their hawk eyes, looove to see noobs walking into the joint, quickly latch on to them, quote high prices and most times get their deals. Uniformed noobs would gladly pay $150 for a 30 minute session with the first hot young girls the meet.

But if you go to HK often, the girls know your spending patterns. Quite a few hot ones would go for $50-60 if they know you won't spend more. 1,000 pesos or $50 plus propina is a good offer to discreetly make to HK girls. They would settle for a little higher to save face. Ask and thou shall receive. Shakespeare said that hehe.

Besides girls currently working in the club, guys have contact infos for a number of ex HK girls, now independent escorts, who can give better sessions with less time constraints and lower rates. Also a number of ex HK girls are now working on the streets. They have not changed physically but their street rates are about 1/5 HK's. They do lower rates but make surer incomes compared to unsteady incomes with the over supply of girls inside HK.Wasn't going to report this event, but it happened to me again last Sunday. I was in HK minding my own business watching a dancer when this girl comes up and talks to me. She asked my name and before I could answer, her short bulldog mesero stuck his head in between us and ask if I will buy her a drink. I tell him no just out of principle. I don't deal with tag-teams. She uses her bubbly personality on me and asked me where I am from. Korea? Japan? I tell her that I am from San Diego and before I could even finish my sentence, she was half-way down the hall getting away from me as fast as she can. I had to sniff my armpits to ensure that I was not full of body odor.

Oh yeah, the sharks are on the lookout for noobs alright.

Captain Solo
03-26-22, 20:05
HK has been blocking out tables and booth around the main stage, reserved them for bottle services. About half of them went unoccupied all night on busy week ends.

HK is giving the spot light and lots of time for the FFF to parade onstage and the center of tha bar faking propina rains.

Guys go to the club to watch strip shows and mingle with the girls. Nobody wants to see a stupid FF hogging attention, wasting time and space of the girls.

When in Rome, do what Romans do (Did Shakespeare say that? The FF upstages the rest of the guys every night, trying to show off his money, drawing attention to himself. His act is stupid and in bad taste. He's raising the girls and meseros' expectations, making it inconvenient, difficult and expensive for the rest of us.

Who would want to watch a stupid FF parading on stage? May be a couple cartel guys will find a source for quick money.

SeaBeeJoe
03-26-22, 22:19
Wasn't going to report this event, but it happened to me again last Sunday. I was in HK minding my own business watching a dancer when this girl comes up and talks to me. She asked my name and before I could answer, her short bulldog mesero stuck his head in between us and ask if I will buy her a drink. I tell him no just out of principle. I don't deal with tag-teams. She uses her bubbly personality on me and asked me where I am from. Korea? Japan? I tell her that I am from San Diego and before I could even finish my sentence, she was half-way down the hall getting away from me as fast as she can. I had to sniff my armpits to ensure that I was not full of body odor.

Oh yeah, the sharks are on the lookout for noobs alright.People are so stupid asking us Asians this shit. Like they are too dumb and ignorant to to realize there are actually Asian born Americans. I always tell them I am many of the different Asian races as a joke. I once told this silly puta I was a retired sumo wrestler as I am a half white and a plus sized Asian male LOL.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-27-22, 01:43
Sat down at a table with a hot chica I had been waiting for all night to be free. Our drinks already arrived and some rude ugly dude literally walked to my table, grabbed the girls hand and pulled her away to his table leaving me sitting there like I just got robbed. I didn't lose my temper and said nothing, but seriously. That was low and unprofessional. The girl realized it and didn't want to piss off this lowlife so she only went away and sat with him for a few minutes before coming back to me. But still. Who does that.

BlackThought
03-27-22, 04:50
What makes you wrote HK is gradually driving out the low spenders?

How exactly are they doing that?

I am grateful for the big spenders in the club since the sponsor the fun for low spenders like me.When guys like the fat Armenian dude throws a $100 stack of dollar bills on a girl and doesn't even touch her, it can make the rest of us tryna cop a feel for $1 look cheap as hell. I now give $2-3 to cop a feel jaja.

Sperten
03-27-22, 07:07
Sat down at a table with a hot chica I had been waiting for all night to be free. Our drinks already arrived and some rude ugly dude literally walked to my table, grabbed the girls hand and pulled her away to his table leaving me sitting there like I just got robbed. I didn't lose my temper and said nothing, but seriously. That was low and unprofessional. The girl realized it and didn't want to piss off this lowlife so she only went away and sat with him for a few minutes before coming back to me. But still. Who does that.Desperate loser. Good you kept calm.

Gregyyr
03-27-22, 15:28
HK has been blocking out tables and booth around the main stage, reserved them for bottle services. About half of them went unoccupied all night on busy week ends.

HK is giving the spot light and lots of time for the FFF to parade onstage and the center of tha bar faking propina rains.

Guys go to the club to watch strip shows and mingle with the girls. Nobody wants to see a stupid FF hogging attention, wasting time and space of the girls.

When in Rome, do what Romans do (Did Shakespeare say that? The FF upstages the rest of the guys every night, trying to show off his money, drawing attention to himself. His act is stupid and in bad taste. He's raising the girls and meseros' expectations, making it inconvenient, difficult and expensive for the rest of us.

Who would want to watch a stupid FF parading on stage? May be a couple cartel guys will find a source for quick money.When I was there the previous Friday about 7 pm I had to head upstairs to have a drink with a girl as all the tables were reserved around the stage. We should have went up to the soapy stage in the other part of the bar as maybe those tables are not as reserved as much? I actually like sitting at the stools and have a drink with the girls better than tables. Gives me more flexibility to grope that beautiful creatures.

G.

SomeDude321
03-27-22, 19:57
It can make the rest of us tryna cop a feel for $1 look cheap as hell. I now give $2-3 to cop a feel jaja.Not giving $2-3 to cop a feel, sorry. At that point it's best to switch to escorts. For an extra $25, I get twice the time.

Dogers69
03-27-22, 20:23
HK has been blocking out tables and booth around the main stage, reserved them for bottle services. About half of them went unoccupied all night on busy week ends.

HK is giving the spot light and lots of time for the FFF to parade onstage and the center of tha bar faking propina rains.

Guys go to the club to watch strip shows and mingle with the girls. Nobody wants to see a stupid FF hogging attention, wasting time and space of the girls.

When in Rome, do what Romans do (Did Shakespeare say that? The FF upstages the rest of the guys every night, trying to show off his money, drawing attention to himself. His act is stupid and in bad taste. He's raising the girls and meseros' expectations, making it inconvenient, difficult and expensive for the rest of us.

Who would want to watch a stupid FF parading on stage? May be a couple cartel guys will find a source for quick money.HK has definitely been doing what most business do nowadays opposed to 20 years ago. They want bigger spenders and are happy to lose the smaller spenders. Baseball stadiums in nyc went from 50 k to 35 k. Dollar menus at fast food places are gone. As recently as 4 years ago I would go into Tijuana with $50 dollars on me. That was enough for night in HK hotel, tacos in HK restaurant Azul, at night, free breakfast in the morning with coupon at hotel check in. 2 free beers inside HK. With its coupon. The hotel with VIP card was $11. I would get lap dance for $11. Buy 2 girl drinks at $8. They are $10 now. A few more dollars for tips for the girl. A lot of the time I was dating someone anyway so I wasn't in need of arriba. And since hotels cost me $75 in San Diego, going into Tijuana, was essentially no extra cost. So the whole experience was like free.

Captain Solo
03-27-22, 20:39
Greggy.

You can take the girls wherever to have drinks with them. Third floor always has empty tables, nice, quiet, secluded spots where you could have some meaningful? Conversation with the chicas. There are plenty of empty booths in Las Chevelas but I just hate their noisy banda music. The Hangar Annex has lots of booths available.

It's difficult to find stools around the bar at prime time. I prefer to find a booth in less busy areas to let the chicas get off their feet. They are usually sweeter and more pleasant sitting down and are more open for kissing and groping when not exposed in front of the public. In a secluded booth guys can finger the pussies and check for the dead fish dump if any hehe.

Camerun de Cancun looked so hot with her tall, lanky, natural body. I took her to the booth in front of the main stage, right next to the transit to Chavelas. I was sucking on her tongue, squeezing her boobs, groping her crotch under her panties. Sasha was sitting next to my wingman, gave me dirty looks. Sasha would let me squeeze her boobs but never grope her crotch at the bar.

Camerun was horny and sexy in bed. We were all over each other sucking, squeezing, fucking hard. After the session we came down sitting at the same spot. I bought her more fichas. She asked me to buy ficha for her winggirl Yoko, looking like half Japanese. The fichas and session with Camerun were hot, fun, physical, sexy, well worth the money. Avoid girls who would not spend time to sit and drink, no fichas, solo arribas. They would give you a rushed star fish session to go back to the bar to hook more guys.

She said has lots of friends in Cancun available for dates. Any bro wanting companies in Cancun hit me up for their tel #s.

BlackThought
03-27-22, 20:51
Sat down at a table with a hot chica I had been waiting for all night to be free. Our drinks already arrived and some rude ugly dude literally walked to my table, grabbed the girls hand and pulled her away to his table leaving me sitting there like I just got robbed. I didn't lose my temper and said nothing, but seriously. That was low and unprofessional. The girl realized it and didn't want to piss off this lowlife so she only went away and sat with him for a few minutes before coming back to me. But still. Who does that.That's a disrespectful and shitty thing to do, but HK club attracts those type of clients. That shithead will one day pull that stunt on the wrong guy and will be taught a very hard lesson.

Captain Solo
03-27-22, 22:48
Aba.

There are all kinds of people in HK. Fortunately a lot of local Mexicans are nice, cool, civilized and generous, some must be loaded with money to buy a couple bottles at $500 a pop and sit around, drinking by themselves or handing out shots to strangers.

If someone offends you, you should complain to security guys or managers. Ask meseros to bring security over. Make your case with them to get redress. It's too risky to get into fights with unknown people in other countries. Let the businesses or LE handle the situation.

One night I was sitting at the bar next to this nice, clean, cool young guy in casual clothing, no blings. He was staring straight at the strip stage unblinking. No girls or meseros approached him to sell anything, very unusual. People was keeping their distances. There was no one, no obstruction between us to the stage. Then a line of HK's managers and workers slowly walked by, shook his hand, bowed their heads like servants. He shook their hands but never looked at them or said anything. I figured this guy must be an important hot shot, well-known to locals, but he looked so young and nice. I scanned the club looking for his bodyguards with Ak47's but found noone unusual. A few months later pictures were posted of Ovidio de Guzman, son of El Chapo, arrested then released by Marinas in LOS Mochis. That young guy was Ovidio. If he stole my favorite chica, I would object but would never get violent with him. DEA has recently posted $5 million bounty on each of the 3 Chapitos.

I hope one night soon the retarded FFF will be prancing around on stage feeling cute, obstructing the strip chow, blocking views and annoying guys like Ovidio de Guzman. Would be curious to see what FFF looks like the next day hehe.

Rainman306
03-27-22, 23:34
If HK is going to cater to this fat guy & his weird behaviors then it's time for us guys to start visiting the other clubs. I know that HK has the best girls now, but I doubt between Chicago, Tropical & Adelita there are not good options on any given night.

Also, if guys would stop talking & acting like HK is a 99 and the next best club is a 70 on it's best night then the talent would be more evenly divided between the clubs.

Gregyyr
03-28-22, 03:57
Greggy.

You can take the girls wherever to have drinks with them. Third floor always has empty tables, nice, quiet, secluded spots where you could have some meaningful? Conversation with the chicas. There are plenty of empty booths in Las Chevelas but I just hate their noisy banda music. The Hangar Annex has lots of booths available.

It's difficult to find stools around the bar at prime time. I prefer to find a booth in less busy areas to let the chicas get off their feet. They are usually sweeter and more pleasant sitting down and are more open for kissing and groping when not exposed in front of the public. In a secluded booth guys can finger the pussies and check for the dead fish dump if any hehe.

Camerun de Cancun looked so hot with her tall, lanky, natural body. I took her to the booth in front of the main stage, right next to the transit to Chavelas. I was sucking on her tongue, squeezing her boobs, groping her crotch under her panties. Sasha was sitting next to my wingman, gave me dirty looks. Sasha would let me squeeze her boobs but never grope her crotch at the bar..Thanks for tipolas. Shoot me a pic if you have one?

G.

SeaBeeJoe
03-28-22, 23:04
That's a disrespectful and shitty thing to do, but HK club attracts those type of clients. That shithead will one day pull that stunt on the wrong guy and will be taught a very hard lesson.Good on you for keeping your cool, I know it is the better way to be, I do know if this happened to me a few years agi I would have assaulted the guy and probably got arrested LOL. I have learned the hard way to keep my composure. In the end you still got the girl and her respect too.

AmorPorFavor
03-28-22, 23:57
Aba.

There are all kinds of people in HK. Fortunately a lot of local Mexicans are nice, cool, civilized and generous, some must be loaded with money to buy a couple bottles at $500 a pop and sit around, drinking by themselves or handing out shots to strangers.

If someone offends you, you should complain to security guys or managers. Ask meseros to bring security over. Make your case with them to get redress. It's too risky to get into fights with unknown people in other countries. Let the businesses or LE handle the situation.

One night I was sitting at the bar next to this nice, clean, cool young guy in casual clothing, no blings. He was staring straight at the strip stage unblinking. No girls or meseros approached him to sell anything, very unusual. People was keeping their distances. There was no one, no obstruction between us to the stage. Then a line of HK's managers and workers slowly walked by, shook his hand, bowed their heads like servants. He shook their hands but never looked at them or said anything. I figured this guy must be an important hot shot, well-known to locals, but he looked so young and nice. I scanned the club looking for his bodyguards with Ak47's but found noone unusual. A few months later pictures were posted of Ovidio de Guzman, son of El Chapo, arrested then released by Marinas in LOS Mochis. That young guy was Ovidio. If he stole my favorite chica, I would object but would never get violent with him. DEA has recently posted $5 million bounty on each of the 3 Chapitos.

I hope one night soon the retarded FFF will be prancing around on stage feeling cute, obstructing the strip chow, blocking views and annoying guys like Ovidio de Guzman. Would be curious to see what FFF looks like the next day hehe.Captain,

Very interesting story about Ovidio. Many times the people with the really big money are low key, no bling or showing off like your amigo FFF. BTW next week I take my Tijuana sugar baby to San Jose del Cabo for 5 days.

Captain Solo
03-29-22, 01:26
Amor,

Man, must be a very nice vacation.

Are you staying in San Jose del Cabo or Cabo San Lucas?

What are the costs of airfares and lodging?

Would be very nice to hear from you any good spots for food and entertainment. I went ocean fishing in a little Panga South of S Jose, got knocked around a bit by waves, very rocky, got a couple Dorado or Mahi Mahi.

A local guy said for about 10+ years now, the escort services in Cabo have been operated and controlled by the cartels. Not sure about the bars and bar girls business. Quite a few girls got scared and quit the business. Cartels would sell anything that makes big profit.

MarksOfMagic
03-29-22, 19:01
A couple of my buddies thought we could get away from the rain on a Monday night and take advantage of hk VIP specials. Good selection of ladies. About 80 to 100?? Correct me if I am wrong but that was my rough estimate. Maybe an equal amount of guys on a Monday night.

Hardest rain around 10 pm. Hks bottom floor flooded.

3 take aways from Monday night.

1. Bring your own $1 bills, preferably fresh crisp clean straight money ones. I exchanged for some $1's last night and I had a couple bucks left over in my pocket and saw this morning that 1 had a straight foot print on it. I don't mind it being on a girls pus or ass / tits, but chances are you, you prolly getting one of the fat mans $1's that were on the floor. Floor was wet, and eventually flooded. And those 1's were on the floor. Definition of real dirty money.

2. Never sit on the bottom stage floors during heavy rains. Hk stage sits below street level. Everywhere around the main stage straight flooded and smelled like sewer. Reminded me of Southeast Asian clubs during monsoon season.

3. I am never sitting on the 2nd floor cat walk glass area. Someone actually fell through the glass on Sunday night. The area is still closed off. But never will I be sitting on that class cat walk. I've seen someone go over the rails on the 2nd floor but not through the glass.

Just some maintenance issues they need to address. It would be nice to maybe shift the main party to the newer expansion side of the club. I can see that area eventually become the main club. No flood or people falling through the glass issues on that side.

Captain Solo
03-30-22, 01:06
Got in HK about 7 PM. The club was not crowded. All tables around the main stage were taken as usual. HK's people seemed sad but claimed ignorance why Augustin Mendez was gunned down.

No FFF shit show tonight. HK felt entertaining, not a show of freaks doing retarded things and feeling cute. There was more room and breathing space. The club felt more relaxed and entertaining. I hope he finds a permanent place in bar Gloria with the shriveled grandmas hehe.

Shared a table wit a young guy. He did pretty well financially, bought a large luxury condo in Tijuana near the border and spend 6-months a year here. What a good life. He will have parties with hot girls at his luxury place.

A lot more hot girls showed up after 10. Sat at the booth in front of the giant TV with a couple young Mexican guys. One was sitting, talking with a HK girl, but he was a gentleman, not groping or molesting her, just talking. She was smiling sweetly. He had a frozen Don Julio 70 bottle which he was not drinking from, poured me a couple shots. I don't usually drink liquors but the shots tasted very good, gave me a good buzz, sure made the party happier and more fun for me. Really enjoyed your Tequila shots. Mucho gracias, amigo. Many local guys are nice, fun, generous, fun to hang out with in the club.

DJ70 is 80 proof, spicy but slightly sweet, very light and smooth, good nose with a fine fragrance. HK girls seem to like this Tequila a lot. Will buy a bottle, keep it in the over night bag to party with the girls in hotel room. It comes in a clear cubic bottle, about $50 in stores, but HK will charge $150 for the privilege of ogling and drooling over some very beautiful young girls of all sizes, shapes, personalities and skin colors dancing in their bikinis.

There were a lot of hot girls after 11, a few pure blondes, most not doing business. Found Yellow, nice, clean, beautiful spinner with pretty face, wavy blond hair, beautiful, sexy body, light skin, no tats, long legs, small A cups, pink nips, but all natural. I ran out of time. Hope to see her again next week.

Captain Solo
03-30-22, 01:37
MarksofMagic,

Glad you brought up some very good issues.

1. Guys like FFF, who rain $ bills on the floor then step on them all night like dirt, are just stupid trash, with no consideration for potential dirt, disease, contamination on the bills when other people handle them. There should be laws against intentionally contaminating bills. These stupid guys just disgust me. Will hit my bank for loose tip $s in the future.

2. We were in HK Sunday night, nice and dry, had a fun time. Monday's rainstorm must have been a huge one to bring down enough water to flood the main floor. HK has the light and sound control panels, plus the subwoofers, stored under the main stage. Hope nobody got electrocuted. Flood water probably brought all the dirt and gunk on the street, made it smell like sewer. Yuk!

3. I have always been scared of the glass cat walk held up by a few tiny metal brackets, as big, heavy guys hang their huge bellies over the rail ogling hot girls. The glass or the brackets may break under load. I would never want to sit on the cat walk or under it. Falling through the glass or over the rail would really hurt. You want to live long to enjoy the ho house, not get killed in it.

Looking forward to fun time with hot girls next weekend!

Rambo1969
03-30-22, 02:25
Never sit on the bottom stage floors during heavy rains. Hk stage sits below street level. Everywhere around the main stage straight flooded and smelled like sewer.

I am never sitting on the 2nd floor cat walk glass area. Someone actually fell through the glass on Sunday night. The area is still closed off. But never will I be sitting on that class cat walk. I've seen someone go over the rails on the 2nd floor but not through the glass..Thanks. So the flood is near the main stage by the front entrance. Understood.

Re Someone actually fell through the glass on Sunday night.

So. The back stage (where they have foam shows, etc) is not flooded -right?

Did the person's fall get stopped or did they actually crash to the ground?

Do you have photo of that section. It is really scary.

Where exactly did someone go through the glass?

The area above the back stage? Near where the girls do shows on second floor?

ABAJoeSmith123
03-30-22, 07:40
I wonder if HK girls actually enjoy having sex in their personal lives anymore. For the normal person, sex is an intimate and enjoyable / passionate interaction. But I imagine that an HK chica after getting violated either nicely or violently by 50-100 nasty men per week is bound to no longer enjoy the activity even in their personal time off with their significant others (assuming they have one). I wonder what percentage of HK women would require psychiatric treatment for all the emotional / mental pathology that comes from working at HK. I bet most of them don't seek it out, but most of them probably would need some sort of psychological therapy to recover from their experiences working at the club. A rape victim takes years to recover from the ptsd of just one encounter. I can only imagine what its like for an HK chica after 100's of encounters with unprofessional customers.

Jackie888
03-30-22, 18:23
I wonder if HK girls actually enjoy having sex in their personal lives anymore. For the normal person, sex is an intimate and enjoyable / passionate interaction. But I imagine that an HK chica after getting violated either nicely or violently by 50-100 nasty men per week is bound to no longer enjoy the activity even in their personal time off with their significant others (assuming they have one). I wonder what percentage of HK women would require psychiatric treatment for all the emotional / mental pathology that comes from working at HK. I bet most of them don't seek it out, but most of them probably would need some sort of psychological therapy to recover from their experiences working at the club. A rape victim takes years to recover from the ptsd of just one encounter. I can only imagine what its like for an HK chica after 100's of encounters with unprofessional customers.I can see the chicas leaving the profession after only 1 or 2 shitty customers. It's not going to take a 100. Some of the chicas have "regulars" that they would go Arriba with and jack up prices on new customers they are unfamiliar with. The chicas also have their own grapevine, and asshole customers are usually identified, outed, and made widely known in their circles.

Phordphan
03-30-22, 18:29
I wonder if HK girls actually enjoy having sex in their personal lives anymore. For the normal person, sex is an intimate and enjoyable / passionate interaction. But I imagine that an HK chica after getting violated either nicely or violently by 50-100 nasty men per week is bound to no longer enjoy the activity even in their personal time off with their significant others (assuming they have one). I wonder what percentage of HK women would require psychiatric treatment for all the emotional / mental pathology that comes from working at HK. I bet most of them don't seek it out, but most of them probably would need some sort of psychological therapy to recover from their experiences working at the club. A rape victim takes years to recover from the ptsd of just one encounter. I can only imagine what its like for an HK chica after 100's of encounters with unprofessional customers.You've repeatedly posited that HK girls see hundreds of clients per month. That's just not true. By your numbers she'd have to see 15-20 per DAY. Every working day. That comes out to at least 1 every half hour, assuming an 8 hour shift. Nobody does that kind of volume. Ever.

But, yes, none of them get out of that line of work without psychological damage. Some worse than others.

Captain Solo
03-30-22, 19:02
ABA.

Very nice of you to be concerned about the chicas' sex lives at home.

It depends on the girls. Most of the girls I know had been burned by the BFs and saddled with babies. They just dump the BFs and work to take care of their babies. A few said straight out that they love their jobs, can fuck many guys and pop many times a day, they don't need useless, abusive, mooching BFs. These wise girls can be very horny and sexy in bed. They would fuck the daylight out of you to satisfy their own lust.

A few young girls are still deeply in love with and are controlled by their BFs / pimps / padrotes. They control their sexual feelings with clients, act cold and unresponsive in bed to stay loyal with their padrotes.

A few popular girls are known to to to hotel to fuck back to back. It must be hard to get aroused and pop again and again a few times a night. Most girls can be stimulated with sucking tits and fingering clit and g spot, but guys have also been known to bring vibrators to make sure the girls get aroused before penetration. Girls can act wild and sexy when they are aroused and turned on sexually.

I volunteer to provide unlimited free therapies for any hot girls with PTSD or arousal problems, with life time warranty. Have to charge big premiums for old, ugly, shriveled women hehe.

DramaFree11
03-30-22, 21:01
You've repeatedly posited that HK girls see hundreds of clients per month. That's just not true. By your numbers she'd have to see 15-20 per DAY. Every working day. That comes out to at least 1 every half hour, assuming an 8 hour shift. Nobody does that kind of volume. Ever.

But, yes, none of them get out of that line of work without psychological damage. Some worse than others.Exactly. 1 or 2 sessions during the week. 3-5 on the weekends. Still a tough job.

BlackThought
03-31-22, 04:04
Exactly. 1 or 2 sessions during the week. 3-5 on the weekends. Still a tough job.I'm pretty sure the avg HK chica gets more than 1 or 2 sessions during the week. I've seen some ugly ones go up multiple times on a Monday & Tuesday. As for tropical and Chicago, the girls there probably only get 1-2 sessions during the week.

Dogers69
03-31-22, 04:42
I wonder if HK girls actually enjoy having sex in their personal lives anymore. For the normal person, sex is an intimate and enjoyable / passionate interaction. But I imagine that an HK chica after getting violated either nicely or violently by 50-100 nasty men per week is bound to no longer enjoy the activity even in their personal time off with their significant others (assuming they have one). I wonder what percentage of HK women would require psychiatric treatment for all the emotional / mental pathology that comes from working at HK. I bet most of them don't seek it out, but most of them probably would need some sort of psychological therapy to recover from their experiences working at the club. A rape victim takes years to recover from the ptsd of just one encounter. I can only imagine what its like for an HK chica after 100's of encounters with unprofessional customers.I think you have it backwards. Maybe 25 years ago, a woman might have some self-esteem issues having taking so much cock. Now? Look at tinder, Instagram, every girl wants to be a little working girl. Woman on tinder take great pride in sleeping around. Nurses, school teachers, it don't matter. Like Solo said, many of the girls, would have great difficulty settling down. They enjoy the job. Who wants to bang the same guy everyday if you can have variety? Many of the girls enjoy sex a lot. This job is quite easy for them. Making it into work and getting off the couch is the only difficult part of the job.

ABAJoeSmith123
03-31-22, 06:00
I'm pretty sure the avg HK chica gets more than 1 or 2 sessions during the week. I've seen some ugly ones go up multiple times on a Monday & Tuesday. As for tropical and Chicago, the girls there probably only get 1-2 sessions during the week.Yeah, only 1-2 session during week is ridiculously wrong. I've been down there enough just people watching to know that the hot ones keep going back and forth doing 1-2 men per hour. The second they come back from arriba, men are already flagging them down for another banging arriba and they head up right away. With that in mind, I'm confident in saying based on my observations that a hot chica (my observation and assessment only applies to the hot girls) at HK on a Friday / Saturday probably fucks 12 guys in a 12 hour shift per day.

StRobert
03-31-22, 06:13
I wonder if HK girls actually enjoy having sex in their personal lives anymore. For the normal person, sex is an intimate and enjoyable / passionate interaction. But I imagine that an HK chica after getting violated either nicely or violently by 50-100 nasty men per week is bound to no longer enjoy the activity even in their personal time off with their significant others (assuming they have one). I wonder what percentage of HK women would require psychiatric treatment for all the emotional / mental pathology that comes from working at HK. I bet most of them don't seek it out, but most of them probably would need some sort of psychological therapy to recover from their experiences working at the club. A rape victim takes years to recover from the ptsd of just one encounter. I can only imagine what its like for an HK chica after 100's of encounters with unprofessional customers.Is not so bad. In the Hong Kong club, a girl who has, for example, only one sex a day for $ 80 for 6 days a week, earns $ 480/week Meanwhile, a girl who works hard at maquiladoras (factories near the border) or a supermarket, etc. , earns $ 80 a week without trade union protection. Sex workers and prostitution in Zona Norte, Tijuana have union protection, medical checkups and are completely legal. Prostitution is a normal profession and if a girl doesn't like it, she doesn't have to work in this profession. BTW Sorry, but your post looks like a feminist from the anti-prostitution movement

Gregyyr
03-31-22, 06:38
Is not so bad. In the Hong Kong club, a girl who has, for example, only one sex a day for $ 80 for 6 days a week, earns $ 480/week Meanwhile, a girl who works hard at maquiladoras (factories near the border) or a supermarket, etc. , earns $ 80 a week without trade union protection. Sex workers and prostitution in Zona Norte, Tijuana have union protection, medical checkups and are completely legal. Prostitution is a normal profession and if a girl doesn't like it, she doesn't have to work in this profession. BTW Sorry, but your post looks like a feminist from the anti-prostitution movementGreat question ABA.

The number your imagining for number of men that screw an average girl it's accurate at all I don't believe. Yes maybe a few of the top girls etc.

But the real question is how this affects them and they do pay a price. Some girls take it better than others. I have heard if a girl only does it for one year the emotional toll can not be too bad, but if she has been doing it longer it can take a big toll on her life in many ways.

I often tell the girls I am with just how special it is the gift that they give men. It's not just their body. But a part of them. A part of their soul.

Won't go into it further now but it's a good question and it's not a anti-prostitution question, but a honest look at these girls lives.

I am very pro-prostitution.

G.

Lefeu
03-31-22, 07:15
I think you have it backwards...Who wants to bang the same guy everyday if you can have variety? Many of the girls enjoy sex a lot. This job is quite easy for them. Making it into work and getting off the couch is the only difficult part of the job.I agree! It is so obvious to me that girls love to bang different guys and get paid for it. If I could do that, I would have never gotten a job. It could be the best job in the world, and it is in places like Germany where girls are protected and can work freely.

The only issue is that girls don't manage their money well, and end up spending it away and not thinking about their retirement.

Jackie888
03-31-22, 14:36
I think that most chicas work in Bars because they need money. But it is a nice thought to believe that they are here for personal pleasure.

Captain Solo
03-31-22, 16:19
LeFeu,

Putas hang out in bars partying, drinking, playing, being desired, pursued and lusted after by lots of guys, having hot sex every night with different guys, in romantic relationships and taken to exotic vacations, treated to fine dining and expensive gits ect plus making good money while being protected from any abuses by bar and hotel staff, the putas feel strong, independent and free from demands and abuses by their men. Putas got it made. Of course they love their jobs and the fun, lusty bar lifestyle.

Some men move to and join their GFs in Tijuana, taking care of the children and household while the women go to work. In some cases, the putas' mothers and their sibling also move to Tijuana to take care of the babies. For some, Tijuana is the big, fancy city, a move up from their rural backgrounds. Some parents are even well-off professionals, mixed race Caucasian / Asian / Mexican. They know what their daughters do in bars, but they do not object, tacitly approve it. But one mother was furious, warned the girl would be disowned if she continues hoing in HK, but she just loves to party, drink, fuck, make money too much she would never quit.

Of course the old, fat, ugly feminists in the US would love to have the same fun and fuck in their miserable lives, but they cannot have it due to their ugliness. They are intensely jealous and have pulled every string to legislate US men to keep their dicks at home. The mean, old, fat, ugly, sexless women in state and federal legislature are also horny and want sex but they cannot have any.

They mean to throw the book at and physically break the balls of men who take their dicks to young hoes.

Too many men in public positions have been busted for procuring sex, but I have not heard of any women. A female judge was recently accused of having sex with her staff in her chamber. The women are horny and can be shameless but apparently they are better at controlling and protecting themselves against the law.

Not every guy can bring themselves to screw for money. It takes certain personalities to do it. Got to admire bar girls for having gumption to lay down and have sex with some old, decrepit men. In Asia lots of women are in abusive relationships with their men and like to get their rocks off with any men or escorts. A guy was making big money working as an escort for women. He can screw for hours non stop and would screw anyone, anything. One time he was sent to a woman so ugly he was disgusted, feigned stomach problems and backed out. She was furious, complained to his pimp who promptly fired him. He should have closed his eyes, pinched his nose, told this woman he loved her, stuck his dick in her rotten pussy and given her a sexy time like a real pro. Some of you may have met this guy on the road.

El Guerito
03-31-22, 17:11
I agree! It is so obvious to me that girls love to bang different guys and get paid for it. If I could do that, I would have never gotten a job. It could be the best job in the world, and it is in places like Germany where girls are protected and can work freely.

The only issue is that girls don't manage their money well, and end up spending it away and not thinking about their retirement.You guys are too funny thinking these girls love banging all of these customers. They may enjoy it with a select few, but most of them tolerate it but definitely don't enjoy it. Look at all of the their customers. Mostly older, fat, ugly guys. Creepy guys. Guys into kinky fetishes or that are bad in bed. Or with bad hygiene.

The girls I know tell me stories about how the customers make them sick and at times they've had to try hard to not vomit in the room because they are so disgusted.

Captain Solo
03-31-22, 19:45
Jackie.

They all need money.

A minority is stupid enough to work their asses off to offer all their money up to their BFs in exchange for their alleged love, but are in fact being pimped out and exploited. Don't worry about their sex lives with their BFs / pimps. These guys know how to fuck the young girls' brains out and make them feel love.

The majority of the girls are smarter, have dumped their BFs, are independent, make good money to support high living standards for their families. Girls and women just love to be flattered, sweet talked to, treated to fun parties, expensive liquors, fine food, brand name gifts. They sure love the sexy and fun party life styles in the clubs. It sure beat sitting home starving and being beat up by useless BFs.

Quite a few hot girls were taken out of the market and have permanent relationships with guys, have children. Some young girls look very sweet. I am glad to see them happy with their families and children.

But most relationships with bar girls won't last long, may be 1 to 2 years max, and the girls are back in the bars, drinking, fucking having fun. It's almost impossible for average guys to get free sex out of typical women. Pimps know how to do it. Fuck the girls' brains out and take all their money.

Ctytek
03-31-22, 21:29
I agree! It is so obvious to me that girls love to bang different guys and get paid for it. If I could do that, I would have never gotten a job. It could be the best job in the world, and it is in places like Germany where girls are protected and can work freely.There is some next level of obliviousness and delusion in this post.

Lefeu
03-31-22, 22:22
You guys are too funny thinking these girls love banging all of these customers. They may enjoy it with a select few, but most of them tolerate it but definitely don't enjoy it. Look at all of the their customers. Mostly older, fat, ugly guys. Creepy guys. Guys into kinky fetishes or that are bad in bed. Or with bad hygiene.

The girls I know tell me stories about how the customers make them sick and at times they've had to try hard to not vomit in the room because they are so disgusted.You are right, enjoy is too strong of a word, and tolerate would fit the situation better. However, I think most working girls would not be able to make that kind of money doing, any other job due to a lack of serious skills. And money is the key element in the equation here. I don't believe anybody is looking for love in this environment.

ABAJoeSmith123
04-01-22, 00:50
There is some next level of obliviousness and delusion in this post.Dude, most chicas I guarantee you would not enjoy the job. If you just people watch at HK. MOST of the guys there are ridiculously nasty / creepy / rude / unprofessional / fucking nasty. And that's them "behaving" in the public club scene with all the meseros around. Just imagine how fucking nasty / rude / unprofessional they are when arriba without supervision. Doesn't take a genius to make a logical deduction that a typical woman would not enjoy going arriba with some fuckbag in that category. It's all about money. They're desperate for it and have no other skills for a non prostitute job that can support their expenses. I am not anti prostitution by any means. I was just wondering if people also shared my opiniion that working at HK probably damages a chica's mind permanently psychologically. I think it definitely does.

Big Magick
04-01-22, 02:53
Dude, most chicas I guarantee you would not enjoy the job. If you just people watch at HK. MOST of the guys there are ridiculously nasty / creepy / rude / unprofessional / fucking nasty. And that's them "behaving" in the public club scene with all the meseros around. Just imagine how fucking nasty / rude / unprofessional they are when arriba without supervision. Doesn't take a genius to make a logical deduction that a typical woman would not enjoy going arriba with some fuckbag in that category. It's all about money. They're desperate for it and have no other skills for a non prostitute job that can support their expenses. I am not anti prostitution by any means. I was just wondering if people also shared my opiniion that working at HK probably damages a chica's mind permanently psychologically. I think it definitely does.First of all this work does damage them but also the type of girl that sticks around is already a bit damaged. I'm very observant, I seen girls put on a act to get a guy arriba and when they agree and their back is turned to the john I can see them frown. I've read hundreds of books on the human body and mind. At the end of the day we are mostly controlled by our biology. Yeah yeah free will is possible but that's beyond a mongering board discussion.

Think about it, if there was a opposite version of HK where men had to bang any sloppy, weirdo, fat, mean women that walked in and flashed 80 $ bucks. How would you feel? Yes men and women are different but no one wants to fuck someone they don't like. A lot of these girls drink and drug themselves almost 24/7 to most likely numb themselves to what they are and do.

If you believe the whole pair bonding thing and its a fact that the body releases hormones / neurotransmitters etc when you are intimate with people. Very confusing to any persons psyche. These women have to numb themselves and detach sex from emotion. Also they have programmed themselves to need financial gain from men, even the ones outside work.

Now its not all depressing. I mean imagine getting paid to party. They love the lifestyle for the most part. The few girls I met that didn't I never saw again. These girls may hate some customers but in general they like it. Also women are hypergamous and HK is a place where they can meet a rich man. From a biological stand point this place ticks all the boxes.

HK girls remind me of american women in their 20's. Unlimited options for fun, sex and money. But what they all women realize at 30 is they don't look as good and the clock is ticking. Some smarten up and try to settle by then but by 40 its checkmate and they realize they fucked up if they didn't hold down a good man.

Baxter Slade
04-01-22, 03:37
Think about it, if there was a opposite version of HK where men had to bang any sloppy, weirdo, fat, mean women that walked in and flashed 80 $ bucks. How would you feel? Yes men and women are different but no one wants to fuck someone they don't like. A lot of these girls drink and drug themselves almost 24/7 to most likely numb themselves to what they are and do.This paragraph reminds me of a Tijuana amigo who is no longer with us. He had a comedy routine that started with this line. "I would never fuck me!" he would have the girls rolling on the floor.

SeaBeeJoe
04-01-22, 13:43
First of all this work does damage them but also the type of girl that sticks around is already a bit damaged. I'm very observant, I seen girls put on a act to get a guy arriba and when they agree and their back is turned to the john I can see them frown. I've read hundreds of books on the human body and mind. At the end of the day we are mostly controlled by our biology. Yeah yeah free will is possible but that's beyond a mongering board discussion.

Think about it, if there was a opposite version of HK where men had to bang any sloppy, weirdo, fat, mean women that walked in and flashed 80 $ bucks. How would you feel? Yes men and women are different but no one wants to fuck someone they don't like. A lot of these girls drink and drug themselves almost 24/7 to most likely numb themselves to what they are and do.

If you believe the whole pair bonding thing and its a fact that the body releases hormones / neurotransmitters etc when you are intimate with people. Very confusing to any persons psyche. These women have to numb themselves and detach sex from emotion. Also they have programmed themselves to need financial gain from men, even the ones outside work.Magick, your spot on with your assement. I knew this one gal who worked at HK for three years straight, we dated and fought and made friend and we fought again and now hate each other. Even this hardened sex worker confessed to me over tears that she was tired of selling her body and that one day she would start a tattoo shop and leave the zona. The love the money but hate themselves for having to hook for it.

BlackThought
04-01-22, 17:48
You guys are too funny thinking these girls love banging all of these customers. They may enjoy it with a select few, but most of them tolerate it but definitely don't enjoy it. Look at all of the their customers. Mostly older, fat, ugly guys. Creepy guys. Guys into kinky fetishes or that are bad in bed. Or with bad hygiene.

The girls I know tell me stories about how the customers make them sick and at times they've had to try hard to not vomit in the room because they are so disgusted.LOL heard the same, but they would make up an excuse or just say no if they don't want to have sex with someone they find disgusting. It's not like they're forced into fucking anybody who asks.

BlackThought
04-01-22, 17:56
I think that most chicas work in Bars because they need money. But it is a nice thought to believe that they are here for personal pleasure.I agree, if they hit the lotto, they sure as hell won't be working at the bars. Majority of them look bored standing around waiting for customers to take them arriba. I doubt they enjoy standing around 8-10 hours / shift in 6-8 inch heels.

Dcrist0527
04-01-22, 18:00
I do not have a deep research project ongoing. But I suspect if we could get to the truth, the vast majority of these girls would love to get out of the zona. Like us mongers, there are different types of women. But going back to what started this tangent. We can fool ourselves that these girls are banging us because they like us. But they are in bars for one reason. Money.

Obviously, they enjoy some guys more than others. But to think they are in the job because they enjoy the work? I'd say that applies to less than 5% of the chicas.


Magick, your spot on with your assement. I knew this one gal who worked at HK for three years straight, we dated and fought and made friend and we fought again and now hate each other. Even this hardened sex worker confessed to me over tears that she was tired of selling her body and that one day she would start a tattoo shop and leave the zona. The love the money but hate themselves for having to hook for it.

Jackie888
04-01-22, 18:21
Magick, your spot on with your assement. I knew this one gal who worked at HK for three years straight, we dated and fought and made friend and we fought again and now hate each other. Even this hardened sex worker confessed to me over tears that she was tired of selling her body and that one day she would start a tattoo shop and leave the zona. The love the money but hate themselves for having to hook for it.There are always exceptions, but most of the time women are wired to fuck one guy a lot of times. And we men are wired to fuck a lot of women, I think it's usually between 3-6 favorites.

I think that a person can break through their biology. Women can drink a lot. Men can go to church a lot. But it takes a conscious effort to overcome your natural tendencies.

Socker
04-01-22, 22:25
I'm heading to Tijuana for some dentistry and popped in here to see the latest. I'll add to this discussion, here's my take on the stripper type of P4P. Firstly it's different from the SGs, the Escorts, etc. Bottom line, w 98% of p4 p it's their choice to try for bigger money. I've been to the HKC many times and I go mainly for the cold brews, nude chicas, and the loud rock. I've been to the dingy room a couple of times but it's not my cup of tea. I like escorts. At the HKC I like to watch. This gives me power over the BGs.

The HKC chicas have a tough job, so do house painters scraping and sanding a ceiling of loose paint. I could name 50 tough jobs that take a physical or mental toll on the worker so WTF are we talking about here?! The BGs have a tough job and make better money than their counterparts in a warehouse or restaurants, etc. They leave when they've had enough. They are free!

Sure they have to put up w some BS from customers as do other occupations. In the HKC they control the action and they learn how to cope and control what you get in the room. They are the real hunters in the strip clubs. You are their prey. That's how it is.

You can walk out and they need to stay there and work. That's the only advantage mongers have over them. So enough w the sob stories about them being scarred for life. It's just another tough job. The ones that don't belong leave before the scars if they're smart. Who doesn't have scars BTW?

Guys who call honest hard working BGs putas make their lives miserable. Guys who respect them make their lives better. This is how it is. Do not feel sorry for them as that is almost as bad as calling them ugly names most don't deserve. Looking forward to popping into the HKC next week for the brews, babes and rock.

Cocr Brotheler
04-02-22, 01:56
Has me laughing too! Thanks.

Gregyyr
04-02-22, 05:20
I'm heading to Tijuana for some dentistry and popped in here to see the latest. I'll add to this discussion, here's my take on the stripper type of P4P. Firstly it's different from the SGs, the Escorts, etc. Bottom line, w 98% of p4 p it's their choice to try for bigger money. I've been to the HKC many times and I go mainly for the cold brews, nude chicas, and the loud rock. I've been to the dingy room a couple of times but it's not my cup of tea. I like escorts. At the HKC I like to watch. This gives me power over the BGs.

The HKC chicas have a tough job, so do house painters scraping and sanding a ceiling of loose paint. I could name 50 tough jobs that take a physical or mental toll on the worker so WTF are we talking about here?! The BGs have a tough job and make better money than their counterparts in a warehouse or restaurants, etc. They leave when they've had enough. They are free!

Sure they have to put up w some BS from customers as do other occupations. In the HKC they control the action and they learn how to cope and control what you get in the room. They are the real hunters in the strip clubs. You are their prey. That's how it is.Good points and you also mentioned the loud rock. That is I nice draw as well. I am an old fart and wouldn't really feel comfortable hanging out in a San Diego bar listening to their music but HK is Cool!

Your missing one important part and I am just guessing it is big as I am not a Tijuana hooker. You can be in a social situation and someone asks what you do and you don't need to lie. They live two different lives. They go home saying they are working in a restaurant or whatever. They can't tell most of their friends etc. Their family. As a painter you can do a good days work and complain later to your buddies about it. These girls can only talk to their HK friends. Also. They can't do this work in their home town, they need to be away from their family's, friends etc. Do make the money. Most of our regular jobs we can just do in the city we are in if we have a little experience!

Also. There is society shame factor, which is bullshit. Being a hooker is just as respectable as any other job in fact it's more respectable in my opinion. It's bullshit a massage therapist is respectable but the minute some guy comes it's illegal and not respectable. Also I am not going to get any STD's being a painter. No matter how much you practice safe sex. If your banging a lot of guys I really think your chance of catching something is higher. Not to mention the Covid factor of risk.

Anyway. Wanted to mention these other sides to the job.

G.

Big Magick
04-02-22, 10:39
Its really simple. Would you think any american girl grows up wanting to be a prostitute? No doubt in anyones mind its a "no" 100% of the time. Yeah the girls might like some guys and a lot of them like to be paid to drink and party in the bottom part of the club. I lived with a few of these girls and we would go get piss drunk at non zona bars on their days off. Reminded me of college when I would drink basically every day.

They love the lifestyle and cash but not the degradation. Like previous posts said. Theres a reason they hide this work. A HK girl I dated wouldn't answer my texts and I needed the keys to our apartment so I went in to find her at the club. I saw her sitting with a john but she looked down and never made eye contact. Guys, that's shame. I know we love to bang these girls and saying that they love it makes us feel better but the cold hard truth is most don't like it but like any other job they learn to deal.

I believe most people know this fact but I will repeat it. Mexico pays their employees close to nothing. About 80 $ a week. And remember you have to spend money to make it. Gas, food, etc.

An american escort gets paid accordingly to american prices, about 500 $ a pop. They don't do it because they love it either. Its easy money that requires no skill just like girls in the zona. Only difference is women in mexico don't have many other options. Even my male cousins in Guadalajara get paid way less than I do and they are doctors and engineers. For privacy reasons I won't mention my profession but its not that amazing. I don't even use a degree for my job.

Prostitution really is a public service. Sex is a basic necessity like food or water. How long can you go without food before doing something irrational? Same with sex. I think many men get bitter with women, even non pros. They say prostitutes are just money hungry, cold, manipulators. But imagine a world where as men we can only have value by how tall, muscular, well endowed, handsome we are? We would act cold and crazy too.

Unlike men, Womens financial status has nothing to do with their appeal for us. We would rather bang a hot 19 yr old with debt than a rich fat girl. Well at least most guys.

I'm under 30 and in my short time I've realized perspective matters. Its hard for me to be depressed when some people have it so bad. I could of been born in north Korea.

So yes bar girls have it hard but so does everyone else that isn't a trust fund baby. Thats life and it could be a lot worse.

SeaBeeJoe
04-02-22, 11:39
Its really simple. Would you think any american girl grows up wanting to be a prostitute? No doubt in anyones mind its a "no" 100% of the time. Yeah the girls might like some guys and a lot of them like to be paid to drink and party in the bottom part of the club. I lived with a few of these girls and we would go get piss drunk at non zona bars on their days off. Reminded me of college when I would drink basically every day.

They love the lifestyle and cash but not the degradation. Like previous posts said. Theres a reason they hide this work. A HK girl I dated wouldn't answer my texts and I needed the keys to our apartment so I went in to find her at the club. I saw her sitting with a john but she looked down and never made eye contact. Guys, that's shame. I know we love to bang these girls and saying that they love it makes us feel better but the cold hard truth is most don't like it but like any other job they learn to deal.

I believe most people know this fact but I will repeat it. Mexico pays their employees close to nothing. About 80 $ a week. And remember you have to spend money to make it. Gas, food, etc.

An american escort gets paid accordingly to american prices, about 500 $ a pop. They don't do it because they love it either. Its easy money that requires no skill just like girls in the zona. Only difference is women in mexico don't have many other options. Even my male cousins in Guadalajara get paid way less than I do and they are doctors and engineers. For privacy reasons I won't mention my profession but its not that amazing. I don't even use a degree for my job..You speak the truth my friend but this post is probably too much reality for the average monger. Most here say ooh the girls love to have sex with multiple men and get paid to party. Believe me partying hard gets very old quick. Not to mention the toll on the body. My ex went back to work in HK again after being with her for a year, yes it is for money obviously. I hate it but she isn't my girl. Anymore so fuxk it. Girl got to make a living somehow.

Hargow20
04-02-22, 15:53
I agree in the end it is the girls choice. I get irritated when I hear girls complain that they are forced to do this.


I'm heading to Tijuana for some dentistry and popped in here to see the latest. I'll add to this discussion, here's my take on the stripper type of P4P. Firstly it's different from the SGs, the Escorts, etc. Bottom line, w 98% of p4 p it's their choice to try for bigger money. I've been to the HKC many times and I go mainly for the cold brews, nude chicas, and the loud rock. I've been to the dingy room a couple of times but it's not my cup of tea. I like escorts. At the HKC I like to watch. This gives me power over the BGs.

The HKC chicas have a tough job, so do house painters scraping and sanding a ceiling of loose paint. I could name 50 tough jobs that take a physical or mental toll on the worker so WTF are we talking about here?! The BGs have a tough job and make better money than their counterparts in a warehouse or restaurants, etc. They leave when they've had enough. They are free!

Sure they have to put up w some BS from customers as do other occupations. In the HKC they control the action and they learn how to cope and control what you get in the room. They are the real hunters in the strip clubs. You are their prey. That's how it is..

Lefeu
04-02-22, 16:04
...Your missing one important part and I am just guessing it is big as I am not a Tijuana hooker. You can be in a social situation and someone asks what you do and you don't need to lie. They live two different lives. They go home saying they are working in a restaurant or whatever.

...There is society shame factor, which is bullshit. Being a hooker is just as respectable as any other job in fact it's more respectable in my opinion.
I quickly reacted after reading your first paragraph, on how being a sex worker is so unacceptable in our society.

However, you made up for it later, when you called BS on that. And that's what I wanted to comment on.

We are relatively intelligent human beings, and we know that society has it backward on many areas. This is one of them. A working girl is just that, working! Whether society agree with that definition of work or not. After all, society does not step up to the plate when it's time to procure basic necessities for that girl and her family. Not to mention her desire to acquire nicer things in life for her and her family. The real issue is that these girls don't have much financial skills, and they end up blowing that money and not saving much.

El Guerito
04-02-22, 16:26
Yeah the girls might like some guys and a lot of them like to be paid to drink and party in the bottom part of the club. I lived with a few of these girls and we would go get piss drunk at non zona bars on their days off. Reminded me of college when I would drink basically every day.

They love the lifestyle and cash but not the degradation. Like previous posts said. Theres a reason they hide this work. A HK girl I dated wouldn't answer my texts and I needed the keys to our apartment so I went in to find her at the club. I saw her sitting with a john but she looked down and never made eye contact. Guys, that's shame. I know we love to bang these girls and saying that they love it makes us feel better but the cold hard truth is most don't like it but like any other job they learn to deal.Agree with this 100%. This is my perspective based on knowing these girls for a long time as well. The vast majority of these girls never went to college and have tough lives at home. They had babies at a young age and have lots of responsibilities at home. Toxic relationships or abusive novios or exes in real life.

When they are away from their family or working in the bar, the party aspect is their spring break, which they never got to experience really. It's their escape. Their chance to drink and have fun without the pressure and stress of their normal difficult daily lives. If they are hanging around a customer they get along with, it's great. They get to drink, listen to music, dance, party, etc. , all while being paid. If they are lucky enough to have a customer buy fichas for both them and one of their amigas, they are completely happy. It's like a vacation for them and not work, yet they are being paid.

They may even enjoy the sex with some customers, but like another poster said, most women are wired to be with one guy. So, many of them try to detach themselves during sex, because they realize they are not with their real life boyfriend or spouse. And that's the best case scenario.

More times than not, they are with customers that they don't really like or who creep them out a little. In those cases, even hanging out with them drinking isn't really fun. They are tolerating that aspect of the job as well. The sex with the customers they don't like is miserable for them, but they tolerate it the best they can.

This job scars a lot of these girls emotionally. It's the reason they are all addicted to drugs and alcohol. It's their way to cope.

I know some bar girls really well who have said "I love my job" when they are drunk. Then I talk to them the next day when they are hungover and they are sad, depressed, and the thought of going to work that day makes them sick to their stomach. The vast majority of bar girls that I know well would love nothing more than to be retired by a guy, even if it's just a sugar daddy and not a real boyfriend.

The girls I know who have been retired by guys are really depressed when the guys cut them off and they are forced to return to work.

SpeedToys
04-03-22, 02:15
Amor,

Man, must be a very nice vacation.

Are you staying in San Jose del Cabo or Cabo San Lucas?

What are the costs of airfares and lodging?

Would be very nice to hear from you any good spots for food and entertainment. I went ocean fishing in a little Panga South of S Jose, got knocked around a bit by waves, very rocky, got a couple Dorado or Mahi Mahi.

A local guy said for about 10+ years now, the escort services in Cabo have been operated and controlled by the cartels. Not sure about the bars and bar girls business. Quite a few girls got scared and quit the business. Cartels would sell anything that makes big profit.Until recently, Cabo and services have been shit.

SA is a good source in Cabo, and the services are all but gone.

Sperten
04-03-22, 03:24
I talked to a girl on Thursday and she said she wants to quit after a week. It is tiring for her physically. Whatever that means. I told her most girl will get over it after a certain point but they will just change with their psychology. Not sure if I should be encouraging her to keep on puta life.

On another note, the second girl I went with was drunk as hell. She rimmed me and lick the hole with passion which was a first for me at HK. It's the continuous adventure that gets me to keep coming back. You never know what to expect each time. However, Keeping up with the constant pressure to keep finding spinners every visit is hard.

Friday, I tired to repeat with a girl that I had good experience before but it wasn't the same. Seems like repeat sessions tend to get worse. Very few gets better. I tried not to repeat too much as I afraid of catching feelings. The second girl I found was a good looking one. Just another spinner from Jalisco and it was a GFE. Capped the night well but I'll be back next time to find something new like always.

Rambo1969
04-03-22, 06:58
Its really simple. Would you think any american girl grows up wanting to be a prostitute? No doubt in anyones mind its a "no" 100% of the time.

Prostitution really is a public service. Sex is a basic necessity like food or water. How long can you go without food before doing something irrational? Same with sex. I think many men get bitter with women, even non pros. They say prostitutes are just money hungry, cold, manipulators. But imagine a world where as men we can only have value by how tall, muscular, well endowed, handsome we are? We would act cold and crazy too.

Unlike men, Womens financial status has nothing to do with their appeal for us. We would rather bang a hot 19 yr old with debt than a rich fat girl..I agree 100% - they provide a very valuable service.

My life was miserable in a sexless marriage for many years till I discovered Zona 5 years ago.

Since I discovered Zona my life has been transformed and I have been very happy- thanks to these wonderful women.

I politely correct any guy in the club who casually calls them bitches in conversations. Because I appreciate the valuable service most of these women provide.

Yes there are a few gold diggers. But it is ultimately the guy's fault for providing the gold to them.

I truly appreciate the beauties on stage at HK and my favorite street girls who have transformed my life.

And. Yes all of us who can afford them have essentially won a lottery in life.

SeaBeeJoe
04-03-22, 19:02
I agree 100% - they provide a very valuable service.

My life was miserable in a sexless marriage for many years till I discovered Zona 5 years ago.

Since I discovered Zona my life has been transformed and I have been very happy- thanks to these wonderful women.

I politely correct any guy in the club who casually calls them bitches in conversations. Because I appreciate the valuable service most of these women provide.

Yes there are a few gold diggers. But it is ultimately the guy's fault for providing the gold to them.

I truly appreciate the beauties on stage at HK and my favorite street girls who have transformed my life.

And. Yes all of us who can afford them have essentially won a lottery in life.Rambo, I agree with you both 100%. I also was in a sexless marriage after my divorce I rediscovered the zona. I had many ups and downs but at the I enjoyed myself with many top shelf girls to satisfy ever fantasy I had growing up. I have since calmed down a lot for lack of funds and also distance as I live far away from Tijuana now. My only advice is don't fall in love with the girls in the zona, you will get hurt. Respect the girls and you will get better service, they have feeling too and are only there to make some money to survive. Budget yourself in how much you want to spend and stick to it, money flows away from a monger like a river if you let it. Lastly don't bring anything expensive to Tijuana you will only be mad when you end up losing it or having it get get stolen. Most of all have fun!!

MerakiUnicorn
04-03-22, 19:49
Got in HK about 7 PM. The club was not crowded. All tables around the main stage were taken as usual. HK's people seemed sad but claimed ignorance why Augustin Mendez was gunned down.

No FFF shit show tonight. HK felt entertaining, not a show of freaks doing retarded things and feeling cute. There was more room and breathing space. The club felt more relaxed and entertaining. I hope he finds a permanent place in bar Gloria with the shriveled grandmas hehe.

Shared a table wit a young guy. He did pretty well financially, bought a large luxury condo in Tijuana near the border and spend 6-months a year here. What a good life. He will have parties with hot girls at his luxury place.

A lot more hot girls showed up after 10. Sat at the booth in front of the giant TV with a couple young Mexican guys. One was sitting, talking with a HK girl, but he was a gentleman, not groping or molesting her, just talking. She was smiling sweetly. He had a frozen Don Julio 70 bottle which he was not drinking from, poured me a couple shots. I don't usually drink liquors but the shots tasted very good, gave me a good buzz, sure made the party happier and more fun for me. Really enjoyed your Tequila shots. Mucho gracias, amigo. Many local guys are nice, fun, generous, fun to hang out with in the club..Hey Capt'n I'll be coming to HK on 15th and 16th. Flying in from Dallas. Hoping to catch you and have some beer. Will you DM me?

MerakiUnicorn
04-03-22, 20:01
Question: I have a US passport. Last time I crossed the border, they charged me $30 fee. I told them I am just going to be visiting a sick friend for 1 night. Still they said they cannot waive the $30 fee to enter Mexico.

How to I enter Mexico without having this fee charged? I would rather stick this $30 on a beautiful Latina ass.

Any info would be appreciated.

SpeedToys
04-03-22, 20:11
Question: I have a US passport. Last time I crossed the border, they charged me $30 fee. I told them I am just going to be visiting a sick friend for 1 night. Still they said they cannot waive the $30 fee to enter Mexico.

How to I enter Mexico without having this fee charged? I would rather stick this $30 on a beautiful Latina ass.

Any info would be appreciated.Pay the $30, move on.

Sometimes you won't be approached to pay it (as required) and sometimes you won't be. Because they're being lazy.

If that $30 is a financial barrier, stay home. You can't afford it.

Baxter Slade
04-03-22, 20:24
Question: I have a US passport. Last time I crossed the border, they charged me $30 fee. I told them I am just going to be visiting a sick friend for 1 night. Still they said they cannot waive the $30 fee to enter Mexico.

How to I enter Mexico without having this fee charged? I would rather stick this $30 on a beautiful Latina ass.

Any info would be appreciated.If you paid for the $30 FMM then you should still have the paperwork and that FMM should allow you to walk right in for the next 6 months without being bothered.

MerakiUnicorn
04-03-22, 20:24
Pay the $30, move on.

Sometimes you won't be approached to pay it (as required) and sometimes you won't be. Because they're being lazy.

If that $30 is a financial barrier, stay home. You can't afford it.Thanks for the very useful tips. I'm just asking cause I remember someone here mentioning about something you can fill up online to skip that fee.

I don't want some ******* cops to take advantage of me. If the fee is not mandatory, why should I pay?

Phordphan
04-03-22, 20:58
Question: I have a US passport. Last time I crossed the border, they charged me $30 fee. I told them I am just going to be visiting a sick friend for 1 night. Still they said they cannot waive the $30 fee to enter Mexico.

How to I enter Mexico without having this fee charged? I would rather stick this $30 on a beautiful Latina ass.

Any info would be appreciated.Didn't they give you a little piece of paper with the Mexican flag on it? That's an FMM and is good for 180 days. If your previous trip was less than six months ago, just take that paper, hold it up and walk through the Nationals line. If you no longer have it, and $30 is a problem, as Mr. Speed said, stay home.

Thunder52
04-03-22, 21:28
It's been awhile since I've been to La Zona, but recall over the years meeting several Russian, Ukrainian, and assorted Eastern European babes. With the recent influx of Ukrainians and Russians at the border, and their well earned reputation as lovers for hire, has anyone noticed or met any such chicks?

BrotherMouzone
04-04-22, 03:44
Thanks for the very useful tips. I'm just asking cause I remember someone here mentioning about something you can fill up online to skip that fee.

I don't want some ******* cops to take advantage of me. If the fee is not mandatory, why should I pay?When was the last time you crossed? They technically "re-opened" the border last November. If you tried to cross prior to that during COVID you technically were supposed to have an "essential" reason for crossing the border. (If you didn't they nearly always let people cross anyway if they were willing to pay a $20 or $30 "fee" which customs officials often pocket themselves.) Crossing to visit a sick friend wouldn't qualify as an essential reason. Also, most of those officials are experienced enough to ascertain who's being truthful and who's not. For example, if you were trying to cross late on a weekend night, dressed like you were about to go to a nightclub, and you're claiming to be crossing for one night just to "visit a sick friend", chances are they won't believe you LOL.

Yes, filling out the FMM online beforehand greatly increases the chances they won't try to solicit the $20/$30 "fee" out of you. Customs officials greatly prefer to prey on inexperienced tourists (of which there are plenty every night); taking the time to complete the FMM online beforehand is evidence that you're an experienced border crosser which makes it much less likely that they'll pick on you.

Rambo1969
04-04-22, 05:15
Question: I have a US passport. Last time I crossed the border, they charged me $30 fee. I told them I am just going to be visiting a sick friend for 1 night. Still they said they cannot waive the $30 fee to enter Mexico.

How to I enter Mexico without having this fee charged? I would rather stick this $30 on a beautiful Latina ass.

Any info would be appreciated.Like you I too hate paying that fee if I can avoid it. I too would rather spend it on the gals.

Ignore the replies that wrote stay home if that is a problem. We have a right to be careful with money even if we CAN afford it.

Fill out the form at this site & print it and bring it with you: https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html.

It worked during my last two trips. No hassle and it also saves them when crossing since there nothing else to fill out.

Penetrador
04-04-22, 12:51
It's been awhile since I've been to La Zona, but recall over the years meeting several Russian, Ukrainian, and assorted Eastern European babes. With the recent influx of Ukrainians and Russians at the border, and their well earned reputation as lovers for hire, has anyone noticed or met any such chicks?Yeah I'm hoping there might be some Ukrainian pussy working in la zona.

BrotherMouzone
04-04-22, 17:23
Yeah I'm hoping there might be some Ukrainian pussy working in la zona.For some reason this simple comment made me crack up laughing.

ClownDays
04-04-22, 18:13
Like you I too hate paying that fee if I can avoid it. I too would rather spend it on the gals.

Ignore the replies that wrote stay home if that is a problem. We have a right to be careful with money even if we CAN afford it.

Fill out the form at this site & print it and bring it with you: https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html.

It worked during my last two trips. No hassle and it also saves them when crossing since there nothing else to fill out.El Chaparral is the name of the land Port of Entry to select on that form if you're crossing from the US into Tijuana.

Captain Solo
04-04-22, 20:53
Rambo,

I am with you. We should never let any stupid bullies rob us, even if we can afford it. Don't be a weak fool and let riff raffs abuse you. You should resist and fight back. Point out to them where are are wrong. Take down their names, date, time and details and push your grievances. That's the only way we will see any improvements and progresses.

3 of us crossed on foot Sunday afternoon 2 PM. There were 3 Mexican Imm guys manning the line, only a dozen people in front. 3 of us showed them passports with no FMM and were waved thorough quickly, but they took a gringo into the room, likely trying to rob him. He did look scared in front of them.

In front of the parking lot, a Mexican guy proposed to drive us over for $60, claiming he would save us money. We just told him to get lost.

On the way back we took HK's limo. It parked next to the pedestrian path, still a good walk. We tipped the driver $4, he seemed happy. The car was parked for 8.5 hours. They charged us double $26 for parking. Damn. We could have parked for free at the trolley stop and ride it back.

SpeedToys
04-04-22, 22:48
Thanks for the very useful tips. I'm just asking cause I remember someone here mentioning about something you can fill up online to skip that fee.

I don't want some ******* cops to take advantage of me. If the fee is not mandatory, why should I pay?Do an FMM online = Pay money.

Get husted for an "FMM" at the border = Pay same money.

I fail to understand the actual problem.

"I'm going to mexico" should ring in your head that here and there, you're getting fleeced for a few dollars. Smile and tell the story later.

ABAJoeSmith123
04-05-22, 02:49
Just curious. Whats the longest time period for a HK chica to be working at the club that you are all aware of. I think the longest working chica I know of at HK is 7 years. I don't even want to imagine how many dicks she has taken in that time period.

BrotherMouzone
04-05-22, 02:56
Do an FMM online = Pay money.

Get husted for an "FMM" at the border = Pay same money.

I fail to understand the actual problem.

"I'm going to mexico" should ring in your head that here and there, you're getting fleeced for a few dollars. Smile and tell the story later.? You're not supposed to pay for FMMs when you stay 7 days or less. The $30 FMM is for entry for 180 days which most going to Zona Norte don't want. But a lot of times the customs officials shake pedestrian tourists down for $30 (or $20) and in a lot of those instances don't even give them an FMM they just let them go through and enter Mexico.

When you do the online FMM it does seem to greatly decrease the chance you get shaken down for $$$ (assuming you have a valid passport). But do understand $30 isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things LOL.

SpeedToys
04-05-22, 04:19
? You're not supposed to pay for FMMs when you stay 7 days or less. The $30 FMM is for entry for 180 days which most going to Zona Norte don't want. But a lot of times the customs officials shake pedestrian tourists down for $30 (or $20) and in a lot of those instances don't even give them an FMM they just let them go through and enter Mexico.

When you do the online FMM it does seem to greatly decrease the chance you get shaken down for $$$ (assuming you have a valid passport). But do understand $30 isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things LOL.I agree. You can "do it" online, or feel you will get somewhere "explaining" this at the border.

You pick the amount of aggravation in your day.

I've never had to do either, I drive across.

Big Magick
04-05-22, 09:58
Just curious. Whats the longest time period for a HK chica to be working at the club that you are all aware of. I think the longest working chica I know of at HK is 7 years. I don't even want to imagine how many dicks she has taken in that time period.I know of girls who are in their late 30's early 40's who still work and and started in their 20's. I believe its very on and off for them. When theres no other line of work where else are they going to go. The smart ones save and start a business so they can get out. Most BGs don't have that level of foresight though.

HK wasnt always as big as it is though. I bet there was girls who started of decades ago at CC or AB and are still going.

Captain Solo
04-05-22, 21:19
Victor Clark, professor of the USA -Mexico border course at San Diego State University.

Will buy Prof Clark a few Tequila shots when he has to do any long research in Hong Kong.

We need to file complaints and make a lot of noise with the Mexican Consulate in San Diego and Tijuana Tourists Authority.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/students-charged-for-free-travel-form-in-tijuana/509-6cb5ab10-670c-43ac-a411-a76d7b108128

BlackThought
04-05-22, 22:36
Your missing one important part and I am just guessing it is big as I am not a Tijuana hooker. You can be in a social situation and someone asks what you do and you don't need to lie. They live two different lives. They go home saying they are working in a restaurant or whatever. They can't tell most of their friends etc. Their family. As a painter you can do a good days work and complain later to your buddies about it. These girls can only talk to their HK friends. Also. They can't do this work in their home town, they need to be away from their family's, friends etc. Do make the money. Most of our regular jobs we can just do in the city we are in if we have a little experience!

Also. There is society shame factor, which is bullshit. Being a hooker is just as respectable as any other job in fact it's more respectable in my opinion. It's bullshit a massage therapist is respectable but the minute some guy comes it's illegal and not respectable. Also I am not going to get any STD's being a painter. No matter how much you practice safe sex. If your banging a lot of guys I really think your chance of catching something is higher. Not to mention the Covid factor of risk..Great point. Comparing sex work to hard labor job is not the same, especially with the stigma pertaining to sex work.

Gregyyr
04-06-22, 05:20
Yeah I'm hoping there might be some Ukrainian pussy working in la zona.You would think there would be some Ukrainian pussy there wouldn't you. I heard HK Only hires Mexican girls for the most part. They should make a little exception for a while and allow a few Ukrainian girls in there. I bet it would go over well for the men but the working girls may not be to happy with that competition. But maybe supportive considering their country is shot to hell!

G.

ABAJoeSmith123
04-06-22, 08:07
For the few of those who have actually chosen to and succeeded in maybe "dating" an HK chica (I recommend you don't for many reasons), how did you go about introducing her to your friends / family. Did you keep your relationship a secret? Did you actually tell your friends you were dating a working girl / prostitute? When I was with one chica, she shared our relationship to her family via texts since I never met them in person, but I was never really sure how to share our relationship with folks on my social circle due to fear of social shaming and unwanted judgements at work / home. How did you guys approach it if you didn't keep your relationship a secret. Just curious.

BrotherMouzone
04-06-22, 14:12
Forgot to mention in my stay at Cascadas early last month I noticed for the first time that all the drinks in the fridge are tagged (have a sticker that staff put on them). Never saw that before. In the past I might drink a few of the beers but then replace those drinks with a few I buy from Oxxo so I can get my full $30 hotel deposit back. Seems they've started tagging the drinks so you can't replace them with your own store-bought drinks LOL. I guess it's easy enough to get around that by just buying all my drinks from Oxxo and leaving the drinks in the fridge alone but still interesting to me that they've actually taken the time to start tagging all the drinks in the fridge.

SpeedToys
04-06-22, 17:00
For the few of those who have actually chosen to and succeeded in maybe "dating" an HK chica (I recommend you don't for many reasons), how did you go about introducing her to your friends / family. Did you keep your relationship a secret? Did you actually tell your friends you were dating a working girl / prostitute? When I was with one chica, she shared our relationship to her family via texts since I never met them in person, but I was never really sure how to share our relationship with folks on my social circle due to fear of social shaming and unwanted judgements at work / home. How did you guys approach it if you didn't keep your relationship a secret. Just curious.Why do any of those people _have_ to know the details?

BlackThought
04-06-22, 17:29
Do an FMM online = Pay money.

Get husted for an "FMM" at the border = Pay same money.

I fail to understand the actual problem.

"I'm going to mexico" should ring in your head that here and there, you're getting fleeced for a few dollars. Smile and tell the story later.Not true, the FMM single entry form you fill out online is free. My friend did it and did not have to pay anything.

BlackThought
04-06-22, 17:31
Forgot to mention in my stay at Cascadas early last month I noticed for the first time that all the drinks in the fridge are tagged (have a sticker that staff put on them). Never saw that before. In the past I might drink a few of the beers but then replace those drinks with a few I buy from Oxxo so I can get my full $30 hotel deposit back. Seems they've started tagging the drinks so you can't replace them with your own store-bought drinks LOL. I guess it's easy enough to get around that by just buying all my drinks from Oxxo and leaving the drinks in the fridge alone but still interesting to me that they've actually taken the time to start tagging all the drinks in the fridge.Yes, the orange sticker. They allow you to bring the drinks into the club if it has the orange sticker.

Big Magick
04-06-22, 17:32
For the few of those who have actually chosen to and succeeded in maybe "dating" an HK chica (I recommend you don't for many reasons), how did you go about introducing her to your friends / family. Did you keep your relationship a secret? Did you actually tell your friends you were dating a working girl / prostitute? When I was with one chica, she shared our relationship to her family via texts since I never met them in person, but I was never really sure how to share our relationship with folks on my social circle due to fear of social shaming and unwanted judgements at work / home. How did you guys approach it if you didn't keep your relationship a secret. Just curious.I was open about talking about my relationship to all my friends and family. Some friends I told them the truth, she's a brothel worker. Family I would say she works in a restaurant. What are your many reason for not dating them? I was never ashamed but some family members wouldn't understand.

Dogers69
04-06-22, 18:30
You would think there would be some Ukrainian pussy there wouldn't you. I heard HK Only hires Mexican girls for the most part. They should make a little exception for a while and allow a few Ukrainian girls in there. I bet it would go over well for the men but the working girls may not be to happy with that competition. But maybe supportive considering their country is shot to hell!.Ukrainians don't stay in Mexico. They are in Tijuana no more than 48 hrs. Even the ones living in other countries for years are gona be showing up for some USA papers. Hong Kong would never hire a Ukrainian because, besides the fact they would need Mexican working papers, HK doesn't want to be known as "the sex house that takes advantageous of migrants with little opportunity and poor economic status". I am sure that is why they hire Mexicans otherwise the place would look like a nyc strip club, which is a united nations of woman.

Sol12
04-07-22, 03:01
Ukrainians don't stay in Mexico. They are in Tijuana no more than 48 hrs. Even the ones living in other countries for years are gona be showing up for some USA papers. Hong Kong would never hire a Ukrainian because, besides the fact they would need Mexican working papers, HK doesn't want to be known as "the sex house that takes advantageous of migrants with little opportunity and poor economic status". I am sure that is why they hire Mexicans otherwise the place would look like a nyc strip club, which is a united nations of woman.Well said the. Only thing I have to add is that the wait in Tijuana may get to be a little longer as more and more arrive. The news says they have over 1200 now waiting in the city. The US has started using El Chaparral to process them to clear them from the other side. Also I'd would not consider them in poor economic status. They have flown here and most have family in the US to stay with. As compared to a country like Haiti that people travel for months to get here. What's going to be interesting is to see what a s storm the border turns into when Title 42 officially ends May 23. With that news already out to the public you know it's just going to motivate more to make the trip while the weather is nice to be here by that time.

El Guerito
04-07-22, 03:02
For the few of those who have actually chosen to and succeeded in maybe "dating" an HK chica (I recommend you don't for many reasons), how did you go about introducing her to your friends / family. Did you keep your relationship a secret? Did you actually tell your friends you were dating a working girl / prostitute? When I was with one chica, she shared our relationship to her family via texts since I never met them in person, but I was never really sure how to share our relationship with folks on my social circle due to fear of social shaming and unwanted judgements at work / home. How did you guys approach it if you didn't keep your relationship a secret. Just curious.With the girl I dated in the past, I met all of her family members in person many times. They all welcomed me with open arms, treated me with respect, and never took advantage of me. The relationship was Facebook official, in that she posted photos of us on her real Facebook, said she was in a relationship, etc.

As for my family, my siblings knew she was a former brothel worker, but my parents thought she was a normal girl. They all wanted to meet her, but none were willing to travel to Mexico and I didn't want to do anything legal to bring her to the USA To meet them. After a few years together (sometimes retired, sometimes back to work), it ended, but zero regrets. Great life experience seeing how these girls' lives really are outside of HK and in their hometowns far from Tijuana.

Gregyyr
04-07-22, 06:09
Well said the. Only thing I have to add is that the wait in Tijuana may get to be a little longer as more and more arrive. The news says they have over 1200 now waiting in the city. The US has started using El Chaparral to process them to clear them from the other side. Also I'd would not consider them in poor economic status. They have flown here and most have family in the US to stay with. As compared to a country like Haiti that people travel for months to get here. What's going to be interesting is to see what a s storm the border turns into when Title 42 officially ends May 23. With that news already out to the public you know it's just going to motivate more to make the trip while the weather is nice to be here by that time.Good point. Also they don't want to do anything to screw up their chance in getting into the USA. I can see it now. OK. Your approved to come in, oh wait. Your missing one of your family as they are in Zona Norte. LOL.

Also. Everything they hear about Tijuana scares them like. Don't go to that part of town for sure. Even if your a horney 21 year old kid. !! And I am sure money is a concern they have so blowing it on hookers and beer. Maybe not a great choice at their stage of the game.

G.

KBToys
04-08-22, 01:39
For the few of those who have actually chosen to and succeeded in maybe "dating" an HK chica (I recommend you don't for many reasons), how did you go about introducing her to your friends / family. Did you keep your relationship a secret? Did you actually tell your friends you were dating a working girl / prostitute? When I was with one chica, she shared our relationship to her family via texts since I never met them in person, but I was never really sure how to share our relationship with folks on my social circle due to fear of social shaming and unwanted judgements at work / home. How did you guys approach it if you didn't keep your relationship a secret. Just curious.How would they know she is a "working girl"? Does she have a tattoo on her face with how much she charges customers and time frame? Also why would they judge her and not you the customer? Seems odd a monger would frequent such establishments, but embarrassed about being shamed and judged by others. At the end of the day, you live your life on your terms and hope you make the most of it. The worst is being on your death bed with regrets. The real issue would be her reasons for working and if they could walk away from making "easy money".

LuvMexicanas
04-08-22, 04:31
OK, it's been a fat minute since I've been in Hong Kong. I just rarely go there when I'm in Tijuana. I saw him tonight and I retract what I said about other posters letting him live rent free in their minds. He is every bit annoying as fuck like others have said. I even agree with Captain on the low life.

Dylan
04-08-22, 19:19
Thinking of going over the border tomorrow, Sat. 04/09/22 - is it smooth crossing these days? I haven't been in months.

Thanks!

Captain Solo
04-08-22, 23:47
Mexico's INM will want to see your passport. There are no travel restrictions now so you should be able to walk over without problems, but they are still bullying gringos into paying $20-30, depending on how scared they look.

3 of us walked over last Sunday about 2 PM. I showed my passport and the guy just glanced at it, not looking or reading. My 2 wingmen also showed theirs. We were waved on quickly, but 2 INM guys took a gringo into the room, likely to squeeze money out of him as he looked scared and shaken.

Here's the head of INM in Tijuana. Print it out and hand it to the INM guys if they start giving you problems:

Manuel Alfonso Marín Salazar.

Titular de la Oficina de representación.

Calle Diamante s / and, Fracc. La Esmeralda,

Delegación San Antonio de LOS Buenos, see. P. 22640 Tijuana, Baja California.

SpeedToys
04-09-22, 05:53
Thinking of going over the border tomorrow, Sat. 04/09/22 - is it smooth crossing these days? I haven't been in months.

Thanks!It's. Just crossing the border dude.

Gregyyr
04-09-22, 08:10
It's. Just crossing the border dude.Well. It's not like crossing a border into just about any other country.

I would do a FMM form online first and just have it if they ask for one. Don't offer unless they ask IMO.

https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html (El Chaparall is the border name).

Depending on the guard. They may ask for one, ask why your crossing and if they don't like the answer they may push you for to pay $30 for a short term visa thing.

Or they will just let you though after glancing at your passport. It's really hit or miss.

G.

BrotherMouzone
04-09-22, 17:22
It's. Just crossing the border dude.You said yourself in a recent post that you always drive across so you maybe don't have the best perspective on the pedestrian border crossing.

SpeedToys
04-09-22, 20:17
You said yourself in a recent post that you always drive across so you maybe don't have the best perspective on the pedestrian border crossing.I've walked too, this trip I did not drive. Its just two days.

Last I checked the sidewalk, bridge, and building was still there yesterday at 2 pm. As well as months in the past.

And people are still exiting pedwest.

SpeedToys
04-09-22, 20:19
Well. It's not like crossing a border into just about any other country.

I would do a FMM form online first and just have it if they ask for one. Don't offer unless they ask IMO.

https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html (El Chaparall is the border name).

Depending on the guard. They may ask for one, ask why your crossing and if they don't like the answer they may push you for to pay $30 for a short term visa thing.

Or they will just let you though after glancing at your passport. It's really hit or miss.

G.True, but were talking THIS border, oft discussed every day that ends in a why, and why the OP won't read back a few pages. Suggests he's safer at home.

OJeito
04-10-22, 01:59
Here's the head of INM in Tijuana. Print it out and hand it to the INM guys if they start giving you problems:

Manuel Alfonso Marn Salazar.

Titular de la Oficina de representacin.

Calle Diamante s / and, Fracc. La Esmeralda,

Delegacin San Antonio de LOS Buenos, see. P. 22640 Tijuana, Baja California.Phenomenal intel! You my friend are a true soldier of fortune.

Drew996
04-10-22, 08:30
I was with my wingman in HK on a Thursday night at the main stage. Sitting next to me were 3 civies (2 girls, 1 guy). They were hooting and throwing ones at the stage. So I struck a convo with my broken Spanglish and their broken English. A meseros drops a gorgeous chica on my lap and I had to buy her a drink in the back tables. As the chica was grinding on my lap, one of the drunk civie girl sits next to me and starts rubbing on me. She says the chica needs more dollars so I play along. Then civie starts to dry stroke me then asks for a dollar. As I stuffed the civie with ones, I started to suck her face. After a while she pulls out her tatas and I suck on that too. 15 minutes after the chica leaves due to the empty fecha, the security asks the 3 civies to leave.

It was a bit confusing at first but after processing it for a few days, I realized that no matter what, if a chica feels that their livelihoods are threatened, they will ask security to stop it. I also noticed that the second civie girl was making out and grinding on a lucky chap for free.

Captain Solo
04-10-22, 12:55
A guy has been known to take 3 scam putas women into the clubs and pimp them out. They look like chunky housewives, mid 30's, not too attractive. My wingman took one up to the hotel for $60, said she was very horny, made a lot of noise.

I have been approached a few times by scam putas in HK. The women usually look homely, nowhere near as hot as HK girls, one even obese. She promised to give me a hot time club girls could not get anywhere near, but I would never screw ugly obese women.

Of course scam puta, or anyone breaking club, rules are asked to leave.

Captain Solo
04-10-22, 13:01
Ojeito,

Ya, I like to screw these assholes where it hurts hehe.

Of course this scheme may not work if the director himself is manning the line, collecting donations hehe.