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Hadez
06-27-22, 03:02
Couple things I have learned from my experiences and will reply to your comments.

1. Every good / bad girl will let me see their tits. Some just remove the cloths a bit. Some super freaks take their top off for all to see and proceed to grind like no tomorrow. That latter one is rare but they are there. They usually are occupied. The more eager they are to show their tits the better sign of fun times ahead. Understand some girls will just give a peak but if they smiling while they do it that is good.

2. It is all about growing our monger skills. Do not get in our feelings. Take in the moment and learn. Maybe I am just a super monger but I am getting good at this and I think it is because I do not get into my feelings when things go south.

3. On the girls asking more. I approached a lot of girls a few nights ago. Only one asked more than 100 and when I called her on it she immediately and happily went down to 100. Must be happy because I been talking with her every day since. Usually I get up an walk away if a girl asks for 120-150. Got my reasons. Even if I get the sense the girl will take less than 100 I just give her the 100 but ask for specific services before going up. I let my Monger Force guess what services she will do. I do not have specific fetishes. My most regular wingman on the other hand is a Anal and Ganja Hunter.


I know what you mean about some of these things and I am familiar with a few of them also. I was in HK last night I really liked the way one of the chicas moved while on the dance floor so I asked her to come sit with me for drink and some conversation. When she got her drink she did a bit off dancing for me and I gave her a few tips, but never did she once grind on me like you mentioned and when I tried to get her to removed her top for me at the table she wouldn't do it. To me this was an immediate sign of "danger" so I just finished my drink with her and let her move on. I later found another one that caught my eye and did the same with her. This one did stroke me a little bit but mentioned a few things that should have been warning signs that either I missed or chose to overlook. Long story short I took her up and it was one of the worst experiences yet. Although she was hot she said she did not do oral and only offer a HJ and what should have been the biggest tell of them all was as soon as we arrived at my room she asked for money up front and immediately set a timer on her phone. I need to do better at screening / filtering because I noticed a few of the chicas last night were asking higher and higher prices for their time and if that is going to be the case going forward I don't want to making bad selections if you know what I mean.

ABAJoeSmith123
06-27-22, 03:03
How is that possible? You previously argued that hot Hong Kong chicas make $5,000 some weeks. Let's be conservative and say she makes that 12 out of 52 weeks. That's $60,000 just those weeks alone on top of what she makes without hitting $5,000 during the other weeks she elects to work. How could her apartment be so ghetto if she's making all that cheddar?She said the apt costs $300 for 3-4 weeks. It's pretty close to HK so you can't really expect much in terms of apartment quality (anything in zona norte is pretty ghetto). I'm betting she got it mostly for proximity and convenience to get to the club. It had a decent bathroom, but it literally is just a bathroom with a bedroom and no A / see and a ghetto small flat screen tv.

Kinda feel bad that that's where she lives for her 1 month shifts when she has to leave her family to be here.

As someone once said on this forum. The more you peel back an learn about these HK chicas, the uglier / more painful it gets. Their lives are not pretty. Maybe all her money goes to supporting her 2 kids and parents.

LuvMexicanas
06-27-22, 05:05
She said the apt costs $300 for 3-4 weeks. It's pretty close to HK so you can't really expect much in terms of apartment quality (anything in zona norte is pretty ghetto). I'm betting she got it mostly for proximity and convenience to get to the club. It had a decent bathroom, but it literally is just a bathroom with a bedroom and no A / see and a ghetto small flat screen TV.

Kinda feel bad that that's where she lives for her 1 month shifts when she has to leave her family to be here.

As someone once said on this forum. The more you peel back an learn about these HK chicas, the uglier / more painful it gets. Their lives are not pretty. Maybe all her money goes to supporting her 2 kids and parents.That's a lot of speculation. Bottom line, if she made as much as you claim hot Hong Kong chicas make, she wouldn't live in such a place.

KBToys
06-27-22, 05:37
She said the apt costs $300 for 3-4 weeks. It's pretty close to HK so you can't really expect much in terms of apartment quality (anything in zona norte is pretty ghetto). I'm betting she got it mostly for proximity and convenience to get to the club. It had a decent bathroom, but it literally is just a bathroom with a bedroom and no A / see and a ghetto small flat screen tv.

Kinda feel bad that that's where she lives for her 1 month shifts when she has to leave her family to be here.

As someone once said on this forum. The more you peel back an learn about these HK chicas, the uglier / more painful it gets. Their lives are not pretty. Maybe all her money goes to supporting her 2 kids and parents.Also been invited to a bar girls apartment near the ZN that didn't have AC. I got her a portable unit since it made life a little easier for me when I'the visit. Also got her a mini fridge as she was trying to make me frijole tacos from her small kitchen and would always have to run to the market for refrigerated items.

I've also been to the rancho and met family members. It is a normal way of life for them even though to American standards it is roughing it at best. I don't think they realize their living standards until the internet, movies, etc. Where it shows the upper end of American society in a large house, white picket fence, and other modern conveniences we've come to take for granted.

Most of the places these chicas live are probably small towns outside of the large city centers. Most probably have issues with water and electricity not being consistently delivered. Also not sure how much support they receive for the kids from the fathers of their children. I applaud them for trying to support themselves and their families the best way that they can.

Best advice for you if you decide to take things further is to know you'll be on the hook for support as Riky posted. If she decides to walk away from the bar, then know they will find ways to support themselves if you are not able to provide them stability and security. Hope you both have genuine intentions and don't play games with one another as life is short and time is more valuable than any amount of money.

Nothing24
06-27-22, 10:19
First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.

Afterwards I was in the bathroom and I heard a couple guys talking about a foam show going on in the little club Miami area where there was a naked guy eating out some girl. Figured I would take a look and have a few laughs. Sure enough the guy was on the stage with two girls actually and they were all fully naked. Didn't think they would allow that in there but the staff didn't seem to give a damn. One of the girls was jerking him off wanting him to get hard so he could bang the other girl and everyone was yelling. I guess he got a case of performance anxiety and he could not rise to the occasion. He still seemed to be having a blast though. I made sure to remember what these girls looked like because they seemed like a wild pair. Later on I talked to the better looking one and treated her to a ficha where she let me get her with some good FIV action and she wanted me to take her upstairs. I asked if she provided BBBJ and she said she would for $120. Thought about it for a minute but ended up passing.

Visited Chicago and they surprisingly had a decent selection. Also passed by Adelitas and a college aged girl caught my attention but some guy was buying her a seemingly endless amount of fichas. He must have spent a couple hundred bucks on drinks alone the whole time I was there. Decided to call it a night with a little extra money in my pocket. Might come back Tuesday for another visit to the zona.

Typed this all up waiting in line in my car at the border. App said wait would be a little over 2 hours but only took 70 minutes.

Sol12
06-28-22, 02:29
Yea the problem with places like HK they think they are to good to take your requests unless they happen to fall into there playlists. However go in those 2nd tier bars and a $1 will get your songs played right away.

Pre pandemic the Gold Palace DJ would remember all our favorites and just start playing them as soon as we walked in the door.I often think of some of the bigger bars in Tijuana like the big casinos in Vegas. The part in the movie "Casino" at the end when he talks about the corporations taking over and the casino not remembering what you drink anymore and taking a week to get room service. It's hard not to take some personal blame for what it has become because a lot of it has to do with all the info on the internet and we all have contributed to that.

I was actually eating a terrible meal at Azul a few weeks ago and was watching who was going in and out of Gold Palace. Didn't seem to bad but have never bothered trying the place. I really try to avoid the alley.

Baxter Slade
06-28-22, 03:49
First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.Man you got lucky, my guess is more than half the time guys send money in advance they get ghosted when its time for the meetup.

Cocr Brotheler
06-28-22, 05:38
That's a lot of speculation. Bottom line, if she made as much as you claim hot Hong Kong chicas make, she wouldn't live in such a place.Met a guy on the trolley on the way back to the airport from San Ysido who lives on la Zona with his GF (real GF not a working girl) and pays $350/ mo. For 3/2 apartment. He laments is not in a good area surrounded by "all the working girl houses" but does what he does to survive versus being homeless in San Diego. His GF found it. He goes to work daily in San Diego crossing the border. Kicking myself in the ass for not buying a home in San Diego in 1999 for low $200 K.

Slicknaz
06-28-22, 06:22
First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.

Afterwards I was in the bathroom and I heard a couple guys talking about a foam show going on in the little club Miami area where there was a naked guy eating out some girl. Figured I would take a look and have a few laughs. Sure enough the guy was on the stage with two girls actually and they were all fully naked. Didn't think they would allow that in there but the staff didn't seem to give a damn. One of the girls was jerking him off wanting him to get hard so he could bang the other girl and everyone was yelling. I guess he got a case of performance anxiety and he could not rise to the occasion. He still seemed to be having a blast though. I made sure to remember what these girls looked like because they seemed like a wild pair. Later on I talked to the better looking one and treated her to a ficha where she let me get her with some good FIV action and she wanted me to take her upstairs. I asked if she provided BBBJ and she said she would for $120. Thought about it for a minute but ended up passing..I am in the area for a few more days and might be interested in making one more trip before heading back home, if you would like to do a little meetup trip shoot me a message and maybe we can link up for a few drinks and laughs.

ColoradoHobby
06-28-22, 07:33
How is that possible? You previously argued that hot Hong Kong chicas make $5,000 some weeks. Let's be conservative and say she makes that 12 out of 52 weeks. That's $60,000 just those weeks alone on top of what she makes without hitting $5,000 during the other weeks she elects to work. How could her apartment be so ghetto if she's making all that cheddar?The thing about Mexico that some of us forget is that there's.

A) Pretty much zero social safety net.

And.

B) If a girl turns to SW, there's a better than even money chance that they're supporting kids, probably parents / grandparents, possibly siblings, and nieces / nephews.

If they're sensible, they're saving their shekels too, with an eye to when they just can't do SW anymore, whether because their looks have gone and / or either their physical or mental health can't take it anymore. I've met more than one that planned to open a business in their hometown at some point. Yes, US $50 k a year can make a nice life in Mexico, but a couple years at that kind of money can set up a person for life if they're resourceful.

Nothing24
06-28-22, 22:28
Man you got lucky, my guess is more than half the time guys send money in advance they get ghosted when its time for the meetup.Yeah, believe me I was fully aware of the possibility of getting ghosted but decided to go with my gut instinct that she wouldn't pull that with me. She seems to be an extremely honest person with zero filter. Nonetheless I still took the risk hoping this goodwill on my part would be compensated with a reward. I had sent the money from my "executive account" for all my Mad Men fans, so if I lost it, no biggie.


I am in the area for a few more days and might be interested in making one more trip before heading back home, if you would like to do a little meetup trip shoot me a message and maybe we can link up for a few drinks and laughs.I'm going back around 7 pm later on probably. Don't know if I'm going to drive into Mexico or park somewhere near the border and walk over yet. I'll probably make another trip on Thursday as well.

Hopefully I can find one of the girls from the foam show I mentioned from Sunday night. Also going to look for that girl from Adelitas that a monger wouldn't let go of because she sets off my GFE spidey senses LOL.

Nothing24
06-29-22, 09:08
Just got back. Not much going on tonight. Seemed like an average Tuesday night. Didn't end up finding any of the girls I was hoping to run into.

Went to Adelitas for a while, was approached by a very sweet girl. Not the stripper or bar girl type at all. Cute looking, early to mid 20's. Said it was her first week on the job and I believed her. I didn't even buy her a drink or anything and she talked to me for a while. Unfortunately she was covered in glitter from head to toe. I hate that. It got all over my clothes and she wasn't even on me that much. If she didn't have the glitter all over I probably would have taken her upstairs since she had the whole cute new to the game aura about her. Just ended up tipping her a few bucks. About a half hour later some guy that looked like Steve Kerr took her to a booth, probably ended up taking her upstairs.

Big Magick
06-30-22, 12:31
A buddy of mine got me into this life style because he was dating american strippers. I saw the behind the scenes of american strippers and some of them can make 1 k or more in a night and without having sex! Now this is in america. I don't know how many of these type of guys are willing to go down to Tijuana but maybe a zona girl making 500+ a night isn't so crazy.

I think a part of why we can't settle this debate is because we are looking at it from a mans perspective. I know if I could make 1 k a day I would work 7 days a week but girls don't think like that. They want to do the bare minimum so they can spend the rest of the time lounging around and going on trips.

Just right now a few of the girls I know are taking the summer off to do nothing, well nothing but party all night and sleep all day.

I compare bar girls to real estate agents all the time. Some agents barely scrape by 40-50 k a year and some make multiple six figures. Some agents are just born natural salesmen and some just work really hard.

I think the same can be said about working girls. Some are just born naturally beautiful and with good personality and some just work really hard at it while the rest just kind of scrape.

So yes some are making big money and some are barely making enough because like everything else in life, you get what you put into it.

I swear I'm going to get one of the top girls to tell me the truth one day and also get the truth from one of the lower tier girls. I will come back and report my findings LOL.

Jackie888
06-30-22, 19:27
A buddy of mine got me into this life style because he was dating american strippers. I saw the behind the scenes of american strippers and some of them can make 1 k or more in a night and without having sex! Now this is in america. I don't know how many of these type of guys are willing to go down to Tijuana but maybe a zona girl making 500+ a night isn't so crazy.

I think a part of why we can't settle this debate is because we are looking at it from a mans perspective. I know if I could make 1 k a day I would work 7 days a week but girls don't think like that. They want to do the bare minimum so they can spend the rest of the time lounging around and going on trips.

Just right now a few of the girls I know are taking the summer off to do nothing, well nothing but party all night and sleep all day.

I compare bar girls to real estate agents all the time. Some agents barely scrape by 40-50 k a year and some make multiple six figures. Some agents are just born natural salesmen and some just work really hard.

I think the same can be said about working girls. Some are just born naturally beautiful and with good personality and some just work really hard at it while the rest just kind of scrape.

So yes some are making big money and some are barely making enough because like everything else in life, you get what you put into it.

I swear I'm going to get one of the top girls to tell me the truth one day and also get the truth from one of the lower tier girls. I will come back and report my findings LOL.Guys on the forum tend to fuck up by taking what a girl makes per day on her best day and scaling it up to 300 working days because they work 300 days in the US. You need to ask what a girl in fact brought home the prior year after all of her fucking work expenses, assuming of course that she actually knows since she is on a cash basis and probably do not keep books on herself.

Sol12
06-30-22, 19:36
A buddy of mine got me into this life style because he was dating american strippers. I saw the behind the scenes of american strippers and some of them can make 1 k or more in a night and without having sex! Now this is in america. I don't know how many of these type of guys are willing to go down to Tijuana but maybe a zona girl making 500+ a night isn't so crazy.

I think a part of why we can't settle this debate is because we are looking at it from a mans perspective. I know if I could make 1 k a day I would work 7 days a week but girls don't think like that. They want to do the bare minimum so they can spend the rest of the time lounging around and going on trips.

Just right now a few of the girls I know are taking the summer off to do nothing, well nothing but party all night and sleep all day.

I compare bar girls to real estate agents all the time. Some agents barely scrape by 40-50 k a year and some make multiple six figures. Some agents are just born natural salesmen and some just work really hard.

I think the same can be said about working girls. Some are just born naturally beautiful and with good personality and some just work really hard at it while the rest just kind of scrape.

So yes some are making big money and some are barely making enough because like everything else in life, you get what you put into it.

I swear I'm going to get one of the top girls to tell me the truth one day and also get the truth from one of the lower tier girls. I will come back and report my findings LOL.I agree with most girls are lazy part. That's why a place like HK has to force them to go dance or not let them just be in some guys room getting high the whole shift. The one thing you failed to mention also is that most girls are young and have never had money before so when they make so much money so fast it's easy for them to spend it unwisely like on expensive cloths, bags or trips. I look at it the same way as poor guys that are athletes and come into a ton of money so they are immature and just buy ridiculous things.

BTW good luck on finding out the truth with the money.

Aviator400
06-30-22, 23:50
A couple of points based on conversations I have had with trusted BGs.

O ATFs have said that they could make $500/ night. However, they don't like the night shift, because most guys are there to party and get drunk, not arriba.

O She works six days a week 10-12 hours a day and has little time for outside interests. If she doesn't work those kinds of hours, management threatens to terminate her.

O She is almost always broke, in part due to bad money management and due to illnesses. (She has a heart condition that was undiagnosed for a long time that caused her to miss a lot of work. She is now on meds.).

O There is no medical insurance in Mexico and several girls have shown me bills in the thousands of dollars for medical care.

O She has had multiple surgeries, primarily to address cosmetic issues, but also had some medical problems that required surgical intervention.

O She hates her work as a puta. She was trafficked as a teen and really doesn't know much else. Never received much in the way of education.

O She is now pushing 30, but doesn't see leaving the profession for at least 10 years. (However, I think some of them will age out or burn out before then.).

O She officially lives in a studio apartment in another town. HK rents rooms to the dancers for $20/ night, so she will spend a few days in town working and then journey home.

O She has been robbed multiple times on the street, at home, in the hotel, in the club.

O She has been assaulted multiple times. A few of those times she was hospitalized.

O She has been insulted many times due to her profession. (When most of us are insulted, we just tell the insultor to FO, but over time it wears on a person.).

O She has been beaten by a novio so badly that she was hospitalized. She feels lonely and wants a romantic relationship.

O She works in an environment where all the other girls all see her as competition. All of the staff want to fuck her for free or are profiting from her. (She said that a manager will not allow her to work the day shift, because she makes too much money for him selling drinks.).

So, we will never know exactly what the girls make, but considering what they have to go through to make that money.

Jackie888
07-01-22, 16:18
A couple of points based on conversations I have had with trusted BGs.

O ATFs have said that they could make $500/ night. However, they don't like the night shift, because most guys are there to party and get drunk, not arriba.

O She works six days a week 10-12 hours a day and has little time for outside interests. If she doesn't work those kinds of hours, management threatens to terminate her.

O She is almost always broke, in part due to bad money management and due to illnesses. (She has a heart condition that was undiagnosed for a long time that caused her to miss a lot of work. She is now on meds.).

O There is no medical insurance in Mexico and several girls have shown me bills in the thousands of dollars for medical care.

O She has had multiple surgeries, primarily to address cosmetic issues, but also had some medical problems that required surgical intervention..What's the story about the medical bills in Mexico? I was under the impression that Mexico has universal health care. They have their own version of Obamacare, a very low cost insurance. But if you have very low taxable income, it is free. So in theory, your gal who works on a pure cash basis, she is entitle to free medical care. Unless of course, she is unaware since many of these chicas are kind of clueless on the medical care they are entitled to if they filed their paperwork.

Aviator400
07-01-22, 19:24
What's the story about the medical bills in Mexico? I was under the impression that Mexico has universal health care. They have their own version of Obamacare, a very low cost insurance. But if you have very low taxable income, it is free. So in theory, your gal who works on a pure cash basis, she is entitle to free medical care. Unless of course, she is unaware since many of these chicas are kind of clueless on the medical care they are entitled to if they filed their paperwork.Looks like you are right. This from Wikipedia:

Healthcare in Mexico is provided by public institutions run by government departments, private hospitals and clinics, and private physicians. It is largely characterized by a special combination of coverage mainly based on the employment status of the people. Every Mexican citizen is guaranteed no cost access to healthcare and medicine according to the Mexican constitution and made a reality with the "Institute of Health for Well-being. ".

Not sure why her bills show payments. And in one case she had to have a friend front her money. Might have to delve into this a little deeper. Thanks for pointing it out.

AmorPorFavor
07-01-22, 20:20
Looks like you are right. This from Wikipedia:

Healthcare in Mexico is provided by public institutions run by government departments, private hospitals and clinics, and private physicians. It is largely characterized by a special combination of coverage mainly based on the employment status of the people. Every Mexican citizen is guaranteed no cost access to healthcare and medicine according to the Mexican constitution and made a reality with the "Institute of Health for Well-being. ".

Not sure why her bills show payments. And in one case she had to have a friend front her money. Might have to delve into this a little deeper. Thanks for pointing it out.My first thought was maybe she was just working you for money like they do. But maybe she is not a Mexican citizen?

Dg8787
07-01-22, 20:43
Looks like you are right. This from Wikipedia:

Healthcare in Mexico is provided by public institutions run by government departments, private hospitals and clinics, and private physicians. It is largely characterized by a special combination of coverage mainly based on the employment status of the people. Every Mexican citizen is guaranteed no cost access to healthcare and medicine according to the Mexican constitution and made a reality with the "Institute of Health for Well-being. ".

Not sure why her bills show payments. And in one case she had to have a friend front her money. Might have to delve into this a little deeper. Thanks for pointing it out.Free health care may be just some BS with very limited medical and prescription coverage. Most citizens might have to op for private pay care to just to get some reliable care.

Maybe a visit to the free health care hospital would provide some answers!

Phordphan
07-01-22, 21:56
What's the story about the medical bills in Mexico? I was under the impression that Mexico has universal health care. They have their own version of Obamacare, a very low cost insurance. But if you have very low taxable income, it is free. So in theory, your gal who works on a pure cash basis, she is entitle to free medical care. Unless of course, she is unaware since many of these chicas are kind of clueless on the medical care they are entitled to if they filed their paperwork.Mexicans do not have universal health care, as least not as you are defining it. They can go to government hospitals IF they have a "real" job. By that I mean that their employer reports them as employees, does whatever withholding is necessary, does all the proper paperwork, etc. If the person is working under the table, or cash only, then they are, technically, unemployed and do not qualify for free medical care.

Mexico also has lots of private doctors, of varying skills and prices. So, "unemployed" girls go to the cheapest ones and pay them in cash. We gringos go to the most expensive ones, and often save thousands over the Stateside equivalent.

I have no idea how HK runs things now. But in years past, every girl was an employee of HK and received a very small salary. Not enough to live on, but enough to qualify as an employee and thus eligible for government medical treatment. OTOH, many zona bars employ meseras on a "tips only" basis. They make nothing but whatever notoriously cheap Mexicans tip. So, if you like visiting the smaller bars, be sure to tip your waitress well.

Oh, BTW, many girls have an INFONAVIT house somewhere in their past. Once they take on a real job, like in a fabrica, Uncle Jose finds out and deducts their house payment from their wages. This can sometimes make it not worthwhile to hold a real job.

Sol12
07-02-22, 04:52
What's the story about the medical bills in Mexico? I was under the impression that Mexico has universal health care. They have their own version of Obamacare, a very low cost insurance. But if you have very low taxable income, it is free. So in theory, your gal who works on a pure cash basis, she is entitle to free medical care. Unless of course, she is unaware since many of these chicas are kind of clueless on the medical care they are entitled to if they filed their paperwork.I agree with what Phordphan says and it's odd that she would have medical bills since from the Mexicans I have grown up with and worked with if you get sick and need a surgery you have to pay for it ahead of time. So family members usually get together to pay the costs usually this means them bugging the family in the US for money since they think they all have money.

Now when I live with the ex in Tijuana she was able to get discounted health care since she was a unemployed single mom. Of course it wasn't that great. She would go to a clinic downtown and pay 20 pesos to see a doctor or 30 for the child. The doctor would prescribe some meds that she would get at the counter in the same clinic. I forget if the meds were free or just a discounted rate. Sometimes the child needed some special things done that would cost more. Now the doctors at the clinics have their own practice but are required to work a certain amount of time at the clinics. So what often happens is they try to get the patients to come see them in their office to make more money from them.

It was also well known that if you get sick the last thing you want to do is go to the general hospital in Tijuana because you will be more likely to die. Not a great system if you ask me. I know when I got sick once in Tijuana I went to see a doctor that spoke English over where you first cross the border. I had to pay more but it was a much nicer facility and was able to communicate in my native language.

You also have the Red Cross that does a lot of work in Tijuana, ex had to go once and they did a good job but I don't remember if it cost anything but I don't think so. That is why I would always give to them when they do the drives in the streets of Tijuana because they do provide a great service.

I also remember a friend of the ex that had a Visa and took her kid to the US to get free meds and CBP stopped her going back to Mexico and found the free meds and paperwork and they took her Visa away right on the spot. So if the health care was so cheap in Mexico why would she bother going to the US for basic health care.

Now the funny thing that the media is trying to sell is that the Haitians are being discriminated against in Mexico because they go to the hospital for some medical needs and are not being treated because they have to pay. The thing the media doesn't say is that it's the same treatment that Mexican citizens get.

Cocr Brotheler
07-02-22, 07:00
If she would change her ways and quit the biz, be a good mate and not too demanding. I think there is some chance of that (maybe 10%). The 'allowances" I provide her she can than dive up to her family but not me directly. Who knows could fall madly in love with one of them, return to their village and be the King of it! All Kings (ALL) support their villages financially through their minions.

Think in USA Married couples (straight / gay / bi whatever except single people) can adopt children in need but NEVER single males we are EVIL. Fuck that move to 3rd or 2nd world country and you are King be being a male with some resources!

TrashPanda
07-03-22, 06:17
Please don't crucify me if it's frowned upon. I'm headed back down to Tijuana on Monday or Tuesday, I'the like to meet up with a seasoned Tijuana / HK vet to make the crossing with. Preferably I'the like to go via the Ped crossing, using the trolley but I'm open to whatever is recommended.

The last time I swung down to Tijuana in my vehicle, I passed by the Zona a few times and didn't feel comfortable leaving it behind. Feel free to checkout my post history to get a feel for who I am. I'm also on the USASG incase you'the like to vet your potential wingman / lost puppy in Tijuana.

Daytime, M, T, or even W would work best for me. Not sure if my premium account access is still on for PM'ing, but it should be pretty easy to setup a meet via the forum.

Nothing24
07-03-22, 07:18
Late report, made a trip down to the zona Thursday night. The place was packed. My newest HK favorite had worked the day shift so I was on the hunt for something new. Was looking for a couple girls in particular but never ended up finding them on this night unfortunately. Early on a new girl stuck out to me because she was a dead ringer for Cazzie David (picture attached). On top of that she was having a drink with a middle aged Mexican guy and she was being super affectionate, practically all over him. Tried to also remember what she had on so I could talk to her later. Made my rounds to scope out the talent. Also made quick visits to Chicago and Adelitas. Saw one of my recent favorites was working at Adelitas but since I was in the mood for new pussy I tried to avoid her hoping she didn't notice I was in the area without letting her know. Went back to HK and the Cazzie girl was with another guy. He looked kind of Arabic about mid 20's and he wouldn't let her go. He was buying her ficha after ficha, using google translate to communicate. Decided to check out the street scene, didn't see anything interesting. Ate a couple tacos and went back to HK. Spotted the girl solo finally. I approached her and she was very warm and sweet. She asked if I would buy her a drink so said sure why not. She said she was 20 years old and working in Tropical for a couple weeks doing very well and then they basically forced her to go work at Hong Kong instead. She started grinding on me and making out a little bit. Quoted me 100 for arriba. I countered with 80 but she would not budge. I told her since they jacked up the price to 30 bucks for the room I don't pay 100 anymore. She made a sad face and said she would get in trouble if she accepted anything less than 100. I call BS but whatever, wasn't going to argue with her. I told her that was too bad and that I would catch her next time and she said ok.

Texted my Adelitas girl and told her I "thought" I had seen her earlier but wasn't sure and asked if she was there. She said yes and to come over so I did. Figured I would go the safe route with a sure shot great session rather than something new instead.

Might head back Sunday night depending on how my day goes.

Jason07
07-03-22, 08:20
Found this one high on life. Had a good time.

TjBrazil
07-03-22, 11:43
I've talked to some hookers on a deeper level on occasion. I can tell you, no girl grows up dreaming to be a hooker. I don't care what fantasy you guys have that they just love it. They don't. Most girls were raped or molested, or came from a abusive family horrible dad. You name it. You know how I know for sure, when I am on revolution I see plenty of HK age girls working as waitresses and cashiers or servers. They aren't at HK and probably wouldn't get caught dead there. I met one girl at adelitas about 8 years ago. She told me it was her last week. She saved all her money and paid cash for her house and was tired of being a puta. I haven't seen her after that so maybe she quit for good. Some always come back and can't get out. This lifestyle isn't healthy for anyone. Let's be honest with ourselves. I've slept with over 200 hookers. Some on this board have slept with 500 to 100 hookers. It's not normal for any guy that's not a rock star, famous athlete or famous celebrity to sleep with that many women. I worked with a guy who was a virgin. He was about 43. The stories I could have told him about my life would have floored him. I've tried to get out of the hooker lifestyle now that I'm older and have a normal relationship, but I just can't leave it. I love younger women and I always will. The same way we can't quit this, is the same reason they can't quit it.

Dogers69
07-03-22, 16:41
I've talked to some hookers on a deeper level on occasion. I can tell you, no girl grows up dreaming to be a hooker. I don't care what fantasy you guys have that they just love it. They don't. Most girls were raped or molested, or came from a abusive family horrible dad. You name it. You know how I know for sure, when I am on revolution I see plenty of HK age girls working as waitresses and cashiers or servers. They aren't at HK and probably wouldn't get caught dead there. I met one girl at adelitas about 8 years ago. She told me it was her last week. She saved all her money and paid cash for her house and was tired of being a puta. I haven't seen her after that so maybe she quit for good. Some always come back and can't get out. This lifestyle isn't healthy for anyone. Let's be honest with ourselves. I've slept with over 200 hookers. Some on this board have slept with 500 to 100 hookers. It's not normal for any guy that's not a rock star, famous athlete or famous celebrity to sleep with that many women. I worked with a guy who was a virgin. He was about 43. The stories I could have told him about my life would have floored him. I've tried to get out of the hooker lifestyle now that I'm older and have a normal relationship, but I just can't leave it. I love younger women and I always will. The same way we can't quit this, is the same reason they can't quit it.You are underestimating how much sex regular folks have. I had a GF who was 35, told me she slept with over 200 guys after her divorce. Had a Russian roommate for a month 23, would bang 3 different guys every weekend alone. No $ involved. The tall good looking guys on tinder get 20 woman a day happy to have sex immediately, no dinner, no wine and dine. All you have to do is look at tinder, so many woman literally admit what I'm saying by writing "I hope your tall" "I'm looking for fun". That means sex. And what everyone forgets, is we look at Mexican workers as "suffering in HK" because the McDonald's pays like 2 bucks an hour. But what about the 10 k sex workers in nyc with USA papers or European papers? What about the 100 k sex workers in Europe? Besides I don't see most of these girls banging a lot of men. 90% of them just bang two guys a day or less and make their money on tips fichas. I was in HK new section Saturday night, girls were making a fortune tons of cash being thrown at them, looked like one big bachelor party. I didn't see anyone even walking out of the room with a girl for sex and 1 hour in HK no girl asked me for sex.

LuvMexicanas
07-03-22, 19:01
You are underestimating how much sex regular folks have. I had a GF who was 35, told me she slept with over 200 guys after her divorce. Had a Russian roommate for a month 23, would bang 3 different guys every weekend alone. No $ involved. The tall good looking guys on tinder get 20 woman a day happy to have sex immediately, no dinner, no wine and dine. All you have to do is look at tinder, so many woman literally admit what I'm saying by writing "I hope your tall" "I'm looking for fun". That means sex. And what everyone forgets, is we look at Mexican workers as "suffering in HK" because the McDonald's pays like 2 bucks an hour. But what about the 10 k sex workers in nyc with USA papers or European papers? What about the 100 k sex workers in Europe? Besides I don't see most of these girls banging a lot of men. 90% of them just bang two guys a day or less and make their money on tips fichas. I was in HK new section Saturday night, girls were making a fortune tons of cash being thrown at them, looked like one big bachelor party. I didn't see anyone even walking out of the room with a girl for sex and 1 hour in HK no girl asked me for sex.Why do you think no girl asked you for sex? I'm genuinely curious and interested. My experience has been so different in that I get pretty much non-stop accosted by chicas and your money is the same color as mine.

AmorPorFavor
07-03-22, 19:38
Late report, made a trip down to the zona Thursday night. The place was packed. My newest HK favorite had worked the day shift so I was on the hunt for something new. Was looking for a couple girls in particular but never ended up finding them on this night unfortunately. Early on a new girl stuck out to me because she was a dead ringer for Cazzie David (picture attached). On top of that she was having a drink with a middle aged Mexican guy and she was being super affectionate, practically all over him. Tried to also remember what she had on so I could talk to her later. Made my rounds to scope out the talent. Also made quick visits to Chicago and Adelitas. Saw one of my recent favorites was working at Adelitas but since I was in the mood for new pussy I tried to avoid her hoping she didn't notice I was in the area without letting her know. Went back to HK and the Cazzie girl was with another guy. He looked kind of Arabic about mid 20's and he wouldn't let her go. He was buying her ficha after ficha, using google translate to communicate. Decided to check out the street scene, didn't see anything interesting. Ate a couple tacos and went back to HK. Spotted the girl solo finally. I approached her and she was very warm and sweet. She asked if I would buy her a drink so said sure why not. She said she was 20 years old and working in Tropical for a couple weeks doing very well and then they basically forced her to go work at Hong Kong instead. She started grinding on me and making out a little bit. Quoted me 100 for arriba. I countered with 80 but she would not budge. I told her since they jacked up the price to 30 bucks for the room I don't pay 100 anymore. She made a sad face and said she would get in trouble if she accepted anything less than 100. I call BS but whatever, wasn't going to argue with her. I told her that was too bad and that I would catch her next time and she said ok.

Texted my Adelitas girl and told her I "thought" I had seen her earlier but wasn't sure and asked if she was there. She said yes and to come over so I did. Figured I would go the safe route with a sure shot great session rather than something new instead.

Might head back Sunday night depending on how my day goes.Do you remember the name of the Cazzie girl and where she was from? I did a chica who looks like that named Sarah from Guadalajara a week ago ago.

Nothing24
07-03-22, 20:26
Do you remember the name of the Cazzie girl and where she was from? I did a chica who looks like that named Sarah from Guadalajara a week ago ago.

I'm kicking myself for not remembering her name but it was something simple / common, much like Sarah but it wasn’t Sarah. I would have remembered that because of the Sarah’s I already know. She wasn't from Guadalajara though, she said she was a Tijuana native, so don't think it was the same girl. If I end up going tonight I will talk to her again.

DonCarlos1234
07-04-22, 00:36
I have lots of photos I could post from back in the day when HKTJ used to have that midget photographer. And more pics from from Chicago club. I have lost their IG accounts and phone numbers because there were far too many, some were written on napkins (old school) and some I was too stupid / spoiled to be paying attention I am going to visit HKTJ in 2 weeks and I am promising myself to be wiser about saving this info. Which I am still working on. LOL.

Dogers69
07-04-22, 01:06
Why do you think no girl asked you for sex? I'm genuinely curious and interested. My experience has been so different in that I get pretty much non-stop accosted by chicas and your money is the same color as mine.They probably don't ask me for sex because I'm in hk so much I don't look like the other guys. Especially on Friday or sat night. Those nights the LOS Angeles guys are in town, and have that super thrilled party hard smiling, throwing singles at everyone look. While I basically sit there and watch tip a little, and give it 35 minutes to see if I can find a girl that convinces me I need to buy her a ficha. I don't even have the $ on me most of the time to pay the $130 for upstairs. When the girls would go for 60,70 I was ok with having the hotel, but I don't use the hotel anymore since I'm never gonna pay the going rate anyway.

ABAJoeSmith123
07-04-22, 06:48
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.

TheMan31
07-04-22, 16:51
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.You are a grown man (I hope) and you just answered your own question. Do not take what I'm about to say the wrong way. Just block her and move on. It's only about money. Your not special. Your giving this situation too much thought and value.

Easy decision! Just get another one.

Jackie888
07-04-22, 17:29
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.Tell her that you are poor.

FilthyBeaver
07-04-22, 18:55
Next time you go in and she expects to sit with you tell her you'd like to sit alone for a while. Find another girl to sit with you for a few drinks. Make sure girl 1 sees you go upstairs with girl 2. Done, easy, works everytime. I'm so picky that when I find one I stick with her for a while but when I get bored with them it's never an issue past the first night. Longest was a girl on day shift when they used to wear the edecan sashes. I saw her for probably a year exclusively.

I'm not a fan of ghosting, I think it's chicken shit so I'll either tell them up front or show them through actions; depends on how much I like (d) them. These are still people regardless of where they work and if I know there's a mental connection it's the least I can do. I wouldn't want to be ghosted so I don't do it to anybody.


I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.

NeverOnce
07-04-22, 19:05
Found this one high on life. Had a good time.Great find!

Any intel to share?

Thanks!

Phordphan
07-04-22, 20:18
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.The deeper question is why does she think that? What actions on your part contributed to this? How can you change so as not to wind up in a similar situation in the future?

LuvMexicanas
07-04-22, 20:34
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.This is a monger board, not Loveline with Dr. Drew Pinsky.

TjBrazil
07-04-22, 22:30
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.She is a hk girl. Stop there. She is prostitute, which means leave her if you are not interested anymore. You owe her nothing.

Nothing24
07-04-22, 22:47
I'm in the club right now. Thought there would be more people. Seems like a typical Monday. At least they have a decent selection of chicks. I'll be here for a while, in the area anyway if anyone else is around.

As far as not talking to a chick anymore you got to do it cold turkey with a bar girl. She'll be mad at you for a bit but she'll get over it. Just got to pass the first couple times of awkwardness when you see her working.

Artisttyp
07-04-22, 23:33
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.One must agree to settle without the services of a lawyer. That's the only amicable way of ending male / female relationships.

Dogers69
07-05-22, 03:47
Tell her that you are poor.I always tell tinder woman my low paying job, if they want to see me again and I'm not interested. They go away instantly. Even a girl I dated 2 years broke up with me before I quit my good job because I told her ibhad to quit soon. Even the HK girls don't bother begging for sex when they hear what I do during our drink. As far as this guy goes, I would tell her "this isn't working for me anymore good luck". Ghosting is rude.

Nothing24
07-05-22, 06:49
Just made it back home from the zona. If it weren't for several girls wearing the good ol red white and blue you wouldn't have even thought it was a holiday. Just a typical Monday as I had previously stated. My ATF wasn't answering her phone so it was a no go with her. Last time this happened she said her boyfriend had gotten mad at her and took her phone so that was probably the case again. Spent most of my time drinking and hanging out with a couple mongers I ran into, real cool guys, we were just chatting and flirting with girls most of the time. Didn't even go arriba, just enjoying the ambiance. Saw popular girl Judith was there. Very pretty girl although she is tatted up from head to toe pretty much with huge wings across her back. She's always been on my "to do" list but still haven't crossed her off. ISG member BlackThought said her pussy stunk up the room when he sessioned with her which was hard to believe since she looks clean but I have to take his word for it. Saw a young black guy kept buying her drink after drink. Eventually took her upstairs. They came back down together later on as well and he seemed like a happy customer, so I don't know. Maybe someone said something to her and she douches now. When the guy said goodbye to her a European looking older man grabbed her and he started ordering drink after drink as well followed by a big food order. They eventually went upstairs also. After that I lost track of her as I was no longer interested. Guess she's working the day shift now because I only used to see her at night.

Oh yeah, our fat buddy was there and throwing his money around but this time he had a light skinned girl all over him giving him a little LFK action which I found disgusting. Poor girl, but hey at least he’s showering her with money so I’m sure that eases the pain.

Headed back to the border around 7 pm (crossed by foot) and the line was long as hell. Said fuck this and headed back to the zona to kill more time LOL. Went to adelitas and it was dead, just as it had been earlier. Went back to HK to hand out a few more tips and flirt with girls making them think I was going to session with them, leading them on so I could sneak some kisses here and there and rub on their bodies. Went back to the border around 9 pm and the line was still long WTF. I had caught a ride back from the HK car service with a fellow monger and we were approached by a guy claiming to have a couple people all the way at the front who would let us take their place in line for 20 bucks. The other monger tried to haggle him down to 10 bucks but the guy wasn't having it, said 20 was final price. Tried to get him down to 15 and he still said no. We went to the end of the line and said fuck this let's go talk to the guy and approach him with 15 again and if its still a no go we will give him the 20. After more haggling the guy accepted the 15 and had a homeless looking lady take us practically all the way up front before the gate where CBP is at. There was actually another monger already in place so the lady told us to just stand by his side. Wasn't exactly what was agreed upon but we just started talking to the guy like he was our buddy and thankfully he played along and nobody behind us made a fuss about it, which I know could have easily happened. He ended up being a good guy and said he's currently on the Sentri waiting list and they told him it would be about 14 months for them to get to him, which sucks. Anyway, Crossed back into the US in about 20-25 minutes total and counted our lucky stars.

Fitted
07-05-22, 06:58
Having spent 30-40 nights in the zona between Chicago, Adelita, HK, I've definitely pissed off my fair share of chicas LOL. When you come around that frequently they all get to know your face and if you have connections with some, they will get jealous if they see you with other girls. One time in Adelita I was making out with this chick and connecting and then I quit with her and went right to another chick and she got super pissed. Flipped me the bird and never talked to me again.

Another time in HK I kicked it with this girl 3-4 times DFK never arriba, and then I started passing her by and formed a connection with another chick who I took to Miami room. First chick came by and sat down on the adjacent couch and just glared at us. She then texted me saying she couldn't believe I chose the dirtiest girl. Unbeknownst to me the girl was doing foam shows when I wasn't around and girl 1 thought that was disgusting.

Yet another time in Adelita I was kicking it for the second or third occasion with a girl and was ready to sit down for drinks when she said she needed to use the bathroom real quick. In that time I found another girl and decided to get drinks with her instead. Chica one comes out of the bathroom and I apologize and tell her what I'm doing and she tries to act cool but then got super pissed and snapped at me, flipping the bird when I tried to talk to her again.

Yet another time I had a girl I kicked it with come over and totally cock block me, telling the girl I was with about how we were making out earlier. Total *****.

I wear a black hat and black long sleeve shirt every time I got to the zona. I try to be invisible and find private dark corners so I'm not in the spotlight and other girls can't see me. I've approached girls before who told me no because they saw me kissing other girls in the club before them. That's when I switched to all black colors.

Jackie888
07-05-22, 16:53
Having spent 30-40 nights in the zona between Chicago, Adelita, HK, I've definitely pissed off my fair share of chicas LOL. When you come around that frequently they all get to know your face and if you have connections with some, they will get jealous if they see you with other girls. One time in Adelita I was making out with this chick and connecting and then I quit with her and went right to another chick and she got super pissed. Flipped me the bird and never talked to me again.

Another time in HK I kicked it with this girl 3-4 times DFK never arriba, and then I started passing her by and formed a connection with another chick who I took to Miami room. First chick came by and sat down on the adjacent couch and just glared at us. She then texted me saying she couldn't believe I chose the dirtiest girl. Unbeknownst to me the girl was doing foam shows when I wasn't around and girl 1 thought that was disgusting.

Yet another time in Adelita I was kicking it for the second or third occasion with a girl and was ready to sit down for drinks when she said she needed to use the bathroom real quick. In that time I found another girl and decided to get drinks with her instead. Chica one comes out of the bathroom and I apologize and tell her what I'm doing and she tries to act cool but then got super pissed and snapped at me, flipping the bird when I tried to talk to her again.LOL once you go to these Bars for a couple of years, you kinda attract stalkers. I got a stalker following me at each of the major bars that I have to sneak around to not trigger their psycho side. I literally ask the waiters if a chica is working that day so that I can avoid her.

Dogers69
07-05-22, 17:24
Having spent 30-40 nights in the zona between Chicago, Adelita, HK, I've definitely pissed off my fair share of chicas LOL. When you come around that frequently they all get to know your face and if you have connections with some, they will get jealous if they see you with other girls. One time in Adelita I was making out with this chick and connecting and then I quit with her and went right to another chick and she got super pissed. Flipped me the bird and never talked to me again.

Another time in HK I kicked it with this girl 3-4 times DFK never arriba, and then I started passing her by and formed a connection with another chick who I took to Miami room. First chick came by and sat down on the adjacent couch and just glared at us. She then texted me saying she couldn't believe I chose the dirtiest girl. Unbeknownst to me the girl was doing foam shows when I wasn't around and girl 1 thought that was disgusting.

Yet another time in Adelita I was kicking it for the second or third occasion with a girl and was ready to sit down for drinks when she said she needed to use the bathroom real quick. In that time I found another girl and decided to get drinks with her instead. Chica one comes out of the bathroom and I apologize and tell her what I'm doing and she tries to act cool but then got super pissed and snapped at me, flipping the bird when I tried to talk to her again.

Yet another time I had a girl I kicked it with come over and totally cock block me, telling the girl I was with about how we were making out earlier. Total *****.That's funny I just went to outlets yesterday bought 4 black t shirts with no logo so I could start walking calle revolucion without being harassed by cops and goons and deportees trying to bring me to the massage sex places. Some these guys will walk with me begging for 3 full blocks even just begging for a dollar when all else fails.

Phordphan
07-05-22, 18:43
Having spent 30-40 nights in the zona between Chicago, Adelita, HK, I've definitely pissed off my fair share of chicas LOL. When you come around that frequently they all get to know your face and if you have connections with some, they will get jealous if they see you with other girls. One time in Adelita I was making out with this chick and connecting and then I quit with her and went right to another chick and she got super pissed. Flipped me the bird and never talked to me again.

Another time in HK I kicked it with this girl 3-4 times DFK never arriba, and then I started passing her by and formed a connection with another chick who I took to Miami room. First chick came by and sat down on the adjacent couch and just glared at us. She then texted me saying she couldn't believe I chose the dirtiest girl. Unbeknownst to me the girl was doing foam shows when I wasn't around and girl 1 thought that was disgusting.

Yet another time in Adelita I was kicking it for the second or third occasion with a girl and was ready to sit down for drinks when she said she needed to use the bathroom real quick. In that time I found another girl and decided to get drinks with her instead. Chica one comes out of the bathroom and I apologize and tell her what I'm doing and she tries to act cool but then got super pissed and snapped at me, flipping the bird when I tried to talk to her again.

Yet another time I had a girl I kicked it with come over and totally cock block me, telling the girl I was with about how we were making out earlier. Total *****.This sounds, IMHO, like a lot of dick moves on your part. You treat the girls like crap and when they get upset it's funny.

Let's say the roles are reversed. You're sitting with a girl and buying drinks, considering a salida. You have to pee, you get up to go, when you return she's gone and in the next booth all over some other guy. You'd get upset and call her names and flip her off, too.

Hadez
07-05-22, 20:20
We meet these girls from all over. I have met them from Tijuana, Guadalajara, Monterrey, Cancun area, Mexico City, small towns and just about every where.

Where are the best girls from? Expand to anywhere.

Right now for me it is Monterrey.

1. Half of my best sexo spots are girls from here. I think the water in the area builds magical pussy.

2. Currently 3 girls from here are talking to me everyday. Two of them in my top 5 list. One may move into ATF spot. Def top 2 and her and the one she is about to dethrone have taken me to sexual levels I have not seen in decades.

Soon to be past ATF was from Tijuana. Besides boning me like it was her last day on Earth she taught me to ALWAYS get in contact with the good ones. Took 2 years to find one of her level

Hadez
07-05-22, 20:22
Currently considering going to Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City, Cancun or maybe else where in Mexico. If it was just about the pussy not sure if I would leave Tijuana. I just want to see the culture and explore the land.

What are the best places to go.

Artisttyp
07-05-22, 20:34
Currently considering going to Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City, Cancun or maybe else where in Mexico. If it was just about the pussy not sure if I would leave Tijuana. I just want to see the culture and explore the land.

What are the best places to go.Oaxaca and Chiapas for culture. Mexico City for Intl Flair.

Hadez
07-05-22, 20:35
Sex work is a rough business. For various reasons they will cling to income sources.

What do I do?

1. I am always a gentleman. I know this is not common because I have been told it is not common by many girls in many clubs.

2. I am always upfront and honest with my intentions. This can cause some tense moments as the truth gets laid out but I find it best for all.

If you just looking for the fantasy of something tell the girl. In my experience they always happy to try and make me happy.

Still working on the amazing threesome. Have had average threesome but the amazing one eludes me.

These girls trust each other less then they trust me LOL.


I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.

Captain Solo
07-05-22, 22:22
Artiste.

There are lots of lively cultures growing in the warm and moist crotches of La Zona.

OK, Kidding. I want to visit Oaxaca and Chiapas to see sights, indulge in food, sample culture and meet pretty girls for passionate sessions.

Can fly out of Tijuana really cheap, do a round circle of 5 non-stop flights from Tijuana to CDMX, Cancun, GDL Ozxaca, Chiapas, Monterrey, back to TIJ for about $250. Anybody want to go suck on some hot culture, hot tits and hot clits?

Drew996
07-06-22, 01:34
Having spent 30-40 nights in the zona between Chicago, Adelita, HK, I've definitely pissed off my fair share of chicas LOL. When you come around that frequently they all get to know your face and if you have connections with some, they will get jealous if they see you with other girls. One time in Adelita I was making out with this chick and connecting and then I quit with her and went right to another chick and she got super pissed. Flipped me the bird and never talked to me again.You may just be making a name for yourself amongst the chicas. Some may outright avoid you but there's plenty of fish in Tijuana needing a meal or rent.

Reminds me of a situation about 2 months ago. I was near La Gloria and a SW was standing by the taco stand. I forgot her name because I only spoke w her for a min. She was really short, 4'10", curly hair but really nice build. Athletic on the thighs and rear and sweet. Some dude just grabs her arm and said you're with me and into the hotel. I'm like WTF? It was a dick move but I get it, I took maybe too long and the guy didn't want sloppy 2 nds. She did look back and gave me a glance that said I'm sorry. Shit happens.

ABAJoeSmith123
07-06-22, 01:52
She is a hk girl. Stop there. She is prostitute, which means leave her if you are not interested anymore. You owe her nothing.That is a very good point. As someone mentioned earlier, this whole relationship spawn be / see of money and I think as soon as my wallet disappears the attachment will collapse too. Granted I think there are real feelings mixed in here, everything still stems from the chica wanting my money and the lifestyle she thinks she can get by being with me. I think I'm going to just send a text saying I will not be continuing this relationship and then block her to avoid any responses and the ensuing conversations that come with those response.

Artisttyp
07-06-22, 03:12
Artiste.

There are lots of lively cultures growing in the warm and moist crotches of La Zona.

OK, Kidding. I want to visit Oaxaca and Chiapas to see sights, indulge in food, sample culture and meet pretty girls for passionate sessions.

Can fly out of Tijuana really cheap, do a round circle of 5 non-stop flights from Tijuana to CDMX, Cancun, GDL Ozxaca, Chiapas, Monterrey, back to TIJ for about $250. Anybody want to go suck on some hot culture, hot tits and hot clits?Good Eats in Oaxaca Capt. I think you would enjoy the different specimens on offer vegan or non vegan. No endless meat trays being passed around the tables like the Barffets in Tijuana but distinctly a higher quality of eats worth taking pictures of.

Maybe you can get a few of the bros together and lobby for Mexico to offer something similar like the Europass so the bros can take advantage of the lower tier PFP Mexico locations without breaking the bank on transportation.

I would rather feed the pigeons than the corporate vultures.

Sol12
07-06-22, 03:56
Currently considering going to Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City, Cancun or maybe else where in Mexico. If it was just about the pussy not sure if I would leave Tijuana. I just want to see the culture and explore the land.

What are the best places to go.Have yet to visit Monterrey but haven't heard many great things about it culturally. Just that it has lots of museums. Visited CDMX but wasn't able to see much due to Covid. To me it has some ruins and seems to focus more on that part of the culture. I really like Guadalajara and it does have the tourist theme of "Jalisco es Mexico". It's where tequila comes from and the mariachi. Now everyone has a preference for certain type of women but many Mexicans like the Guadalajara girls "tapatías" because they are usually lighter skin and bigger butts.

Another poster brought up Oaxaca and the only thing I noticed on line is that it's famous for the food especially mole. Also Chiapas was mentioned and I remember meeting a professional photographer on a trip once and he would do photography tours to different parts of Mexico and Chiapas was one of them. He showed be beautiful pictures of traditional women in great outfits and looked great, I forget what the special ceremony was. Also talked to a girl in HK that wanted to take a trip to Chiapas to see some cool nature spots and animals. Many parts of Mexico are completely different from each other just as in the US.

If you have good times with the girls in Tijuana you could just ask them to show you their home town. That way you are guaranteed company and if you like it just go back alone the next time.

AmorPorFavor
07-06-22, 04:19
That is a very good point. As someone mentioned earlier, this whole relationship spawn be / see of money and I think as soon as my wallet disappears the attachment will collapse too. Granted I think there are real feelings mixed in here, everything still stems from the chica wanting my money and the lifestyle she thinks she can get by being with me. I think I'm going to just send a text saying I will not be continuing this relationship and then block her to avoid any responses and the ensuing conversations that come with those response.Is this a Mexican soap opera or a monger board where we learn how to fuck lots of putas?

Dogers69
07-06-22, 05:15
Just made it back home from the zona. If it weren't for several girls wearing the good ol red white and blue you wouldn't have even thought it was a holiday. Just a typical Monday as I had previously stated. My ATF wasn't answering her phone so it was a no go with her. Last time this happened she said her boyfriend had gotten mad at her and took her phone so that was probably the case again. Spent most of my time drinking and hanging out with a couple mongers I ran into, real cool guys, we were just chatting and flirting with girls most of the time. Didn't even go arriba, just enjoying the ambiance. Saw popular girl Judith was there. Very pretty girl although she is tatted up from head to toe pretty much with huge wings across her back. She's always been on my "to do" list but still haven't crossed her off. ISG member BlackThought said her pussy stunk up the room when he sessioned with her which was hard to believe since she looks clean but I have to take his word for it. Saw a young black guy kept buying her drink after drink. Eventually took her upstairs. They came back down together later on as well and he seemed like a happy customer, so I don't know. Maybe someone said something to her and she douches now. When the guy said goodbye to her a European looking older man grabbed her and he started ordering drink after drink as well followed by a big food order. They eventually went upstairs also. After that I lost track of her as I was no longer interested. Guess she's working the day shift now because I only used to see her at night.

Oh yeah, our fat buddy was there and throwing his money around but this time he had a light skinned girl all over him giving him a little LFK action which I found disgusting. Poor girl, but hey at least hes showering her with money so I m sure that eases the pain.

Headed back to the border around 7 pm (crossed by foot) and the line was long as hell. Said fuck this and headed back to the zona to kill more time LOL. Went to adelitas and it was dead, just as it had been earlier. Went back to HK to hand out a few more tips and flirt with girls making them think I was going to session with them, leading them on so I could sneak some kisses here and there and rub on their bodies. Went back to the border around 9 pm and the line was still long WTF. I had caught a ride back from the HK car service with a fellow monger and we were approached by a guy claiming to have a couple people all the way at the front who would let us take their place in line for 20 bucks. The other monger tried to haggle him down to 10 bucks but the guy wasn't having it, said 20 was final price. Tried to get him down to 15 and he still said no. We went to the end of the line and said fuck this let's go talk to the guy and approach him with 15 again and if its still a no go we will give him the 20. After more haggling the guy accepted the 15 and had a homeless looking lady take us practically all the way up front before the gate where CBP is at. There was actually another monger already in place so the lady told us to just stand by his side. Wasn't exactly what was agreed upon but we just started talking to the guy like he was our buddy and thankfully he played along and nobody behind us made a fuss about it, which I know could have easily happened. He ended up being a good guy and said he's currently on the Sentri waiting list and they told him it would be about 14 months for them to get to him, which sucks. Anyway, Crossed back into the US in about 20-25 minutes total and counted our lucky stars.Cutting the line is a bad idea. Its disrespectful to the Mexicans, and Mexican Americans living in both countries.

Its like passing in their face, because we most of them are going to work and make low wages. They could never pay the fees to cut the line daily, which would be the bus. At times people will tell border patrol you cut the line. Now you have to go to the back. Sometimes Mexican police check sentry passes if your walking up to the front. You could also get beat up right in front of the border patrol and they may not get involved.

Dogers69
07-06-22, 08:46
Good Eats in Oaxaca Capt. I think you would enjoy the different specimens on offer vegan or non vegan. No endless meat trays being passed around the tables like the Barffets in Tijuana but distinctly a higher quality of eats worth taking pictures of.

Maybe you can get a few of the bros together and lobby for Mexico to offer something similar like the Europass so the bros can take advantage of the lower tier PFP Mexico locations without breaking the bank on transportation.

I would rather feed the pigeons than the corporate vultures.Hk, adelitas, revolution street Tuesday night extremely quiet. Likely the emptiest we will see all three for months, as everyone just had 3 days in row of drinking. As for economical mexico flying, a friend just told me, her brother Flys once a month only pays taxes. Some travel plan you can get 1 free flight a year the plan, I think was 100 or 150. A year.

Jackie888
07-06-22, 17:27
The last time I saw a couple of guys cut in line at the Tijuana border, a full fight broke out that looked like a gang fight and all sort of shit was thrown. I think I was in the Sentri driving line and saw the fight breaking out in the pedestrian line. What ever self-defense training you have isn't going to save you from what I saw, it's your buddy next to you that is going to save your neck by pulling you out from under 5 attackers that ganged up on you. Looked a lot like the Sharks and the Jets fighting from the movie the West Side Story. I guess the logic was that we got 5 guys cutting in line, who is going to give 5 guys shit? The answer obviously was 10 pissed off guys.

Oh yeah, the border patrol didn't do shit because it was a Mexican jurisdiction issue. I think the only issue they were considering was whether to close the gates.

Aviator400
07-06-22, 19:57
Cutting the line is a bad idea. Its disrespectful to the Mexicans, and Mexican Americans living in both countries.

Its like passing in their face, because we most of them are going to work and make low wages. They could never pay the fees to cut the line daily, which would be the bus. At times people will tell border patrol you cut the line. Now you have to go to the back. Sometimes Mexican police check sentry passes if your walking up to the front. You could also get beat up right in front of the border patrol and they may not get involved.Well said. Until you cross the border, you are in Mexico and being disrespectful to those who follow the rules.

BrotherMouzone
07-07-22, 00:34
I had caught a ride back from the HK car service with a fellow monger and we were approached by a guy claiming to have a couple people all the way at the front who would let us take their place in line for 20 bucks. The other monger tried to haggle him down to 10 bucks but the guy wasn't having it, said 20 was final price. Tried to get him down to 15 and he still said no. We went to the end of the line and said fuck this let's go talk to the guy and approach him with 15 again and if its still a no go we will give him the 20. After more haggling the guy accepted the 15 and had a homeless looking lady take us practically all the way up front before the gate where CBP is at. There was actually another monger already in place so the lady told us to just stand by his side. Wasn't exactly what was agreed upon but we just started talking to the guy like he was our buddy and thankfully he played along and nobody behind us made a fuss about it, which I know could have easily happened. Have mentioned it on this board before but that offer is ALWAYS a scam. All they're doing is walking you to the front of the line and then walking away to find the next sucker. There's no one that you're trading places in line with. I fell for it once a year or so ago, though the guy quickly accepted my $10 counter offer. I suppose the "scam" does usually work to our benefit but line jumping is wrong (LOL) so I never did it again. With that said, line jumping does seem fairly common (I see it pretty much every time I'm in line both outside and once you're inside the CBP gate where they first check your passport) and they usually don't do anything about it.

BrotherMouzone
07-07-22, 00:39
LOL once you go to these Bars for a couple of years, you kinda attract stalkers. I got a stalker following me at each of the major bars that I have to sneak around to not trigger their psycho side. I literally ask the waiters if a chica is working that day so that I can avoid her.LOL, yeah I had to laugh at this as I definitely have the same stalker situation with a few chicks. As soon as they see me walk in the door make a straight beeline to me, sometimes even if they're with another customer. Then they start texting me incessantly my entire time in Tijuana and get jealous if they see me with another girl, which is kinda silly considering how many other guys these chicks are with. With all that said I can't really get too pissed about it. Understand they're mostly just doing what they have to do.

Bunter Hiden
07-07-22, 23:13
Three out of the last six days I've visited La Zona so need to contribute. Watch out for a tiny little spinner by the name of Pio. Did not partake but she threw every warning sign possible. She chatted me up and had a rocking smooth body. Very nice full A cups, muy Bonita ass and a darling face with ultra smooth skin. But she totally was beyond dodgy when it came to what she would do if I agreed to go upstairs. All questions such as bezos (not Jeff LOL) going downtown on her, wrapper for oral, positions, etc, were all met by the same answer. "Upstairs that will be decided". And I'm positive after money was to change hands. Totally hot but absolutely a hard no. It's like playing cards. Stick by the rules of the game and don't be stupid and La Zona will deliver. Breaking out my reports by section so follow along.

Hadez
07-08-22, 05:02
Have yet to visit Monterrey but haven't heard many great things about it culturally. Just that it has lots of museums. Visited CDMX but wasn't able to see much due to Covid. To me it has some ruins and seems to focus more on that part of the culture. I really like Guadalajara and it does have the tourist theme of "Jalisco es Mexico". It's where tequila comes from and the mariachi. Now everyone has a preference for certain type of women but many Mexicans like the Guadalajara girls "tapatas" because they are usually lighter skin and bigger butts.

Another poster brought up Oaxaca and the only thing I noticed on line is that it's famous for the food especially mole. Also Chiapas was mentioned and I remember meeting a professional photographer on a trip once and he would do photography tours to different parts of Mexico and Chiapas was one of them. He showed be beautiful pictures of traditional women in great outfits and looked great, I forget what the special ceremony was. Also talked to a girl in HK that wanted to take a trip to Chiapas to see some cool nature spots and animals. Many parts of Mexico are completely different from each other just as in the US.

If you have good times with the girls in Tijuana you could just ask them to show you their home town. That way you are guaranteed company and if you like it just go back alone the next time.I am probably going to do a longer trip in 2023. Sounds like southern Mexico is the way to go.

End of this month going to hit a city that has three girls there I know. 2 on my top 10 all time list. The third could squeeze in there with a little more GFE. She is actually the one pushing me the most to visit her but all three have shown good signs.

DonCarlos1234
07-08-22, 05:07
Well said. Until you cross the border, you are in Mexico and being disrespectful to those who follow the rules.I usually drive to avoid the hassles of crossing on foot although I nearly qualify for being handicapped. LOL Is Sunday inbound to MX crazy traffic these days? Staying at Cascadas 3 nights. I can fly in an hour. It's 7 hours to drive there.

Hadez
07-08-22, 05:09
Artiste.

There are lots of lively cultures growing in the warm and moist crotches of La Zona.

OK, Kidding. I want to visit Oaxaca and Chiapas to see sights, indulge in food, sample culture and meet pretty girls for passionate sessions.

Can fly out of Tijuana really cheap, do a round circle of 5 non-stop flights from Tijuana to CDMX, Cancun, GDL Ozxaca, Chiapas, Monterrey, back to TIJ for about $250. Anybody want to go suck on some hot culture, hot tits and hot clits?The trip you made a while ago was pretty epic.

I have found some magic pussies recently. Too bad they all went home.

One will not come back to work in the clubs but she has offered to come back to Tijuana to see me. I kinda think it was the beer and good sex talking.

It seems southern Mexico is getting lot of love. I do not know any girls from there yet but I got lots of people suggestion places to go down there.

Sound7
07-08-22, 18:37
In one case CBP observed line cutting and refused entrance. "Back of the line". 3 HR wait in general foot crossing. Precovid period.


The last time I saw a couple of guys cut in line at the Tijuana border, a full fight broke out that looked like a gang fight and all sort of shit was thrown. I think I was in the Sentri driving line and saw the fight breaking out in the pedestrian line. What ever self-defense training you have isn't going to save you from what I saw, it's your buddy next to you that is going to save your neck by pulling you out from under 5 attackers that ganged up on you. Looked a lot like the Sharks and the Jets fighting from the movie the West Side Story. I guess the logic was that we got 5 guys cutting in line, who is going to give 5 guys shit? The answer obviously was 10 pissed off guys.

Oh yeah, the border patrol didn't do shit because it was a Mexican jurisdiction issue. I think the only issue they were considering was whether to close the gates.

Nothing24
07-09-22, 04:12
Just got back home from a little Friday afternoon delight. Was in HK for around 3 hours, they had a pretty decent selection for a Friday afternoon. Was approached by a MILF who said her name was Brisa, promised me 2 pops upstairs. Almost took her up on it. Kept my eye on her for a bit while a couple other guys bought her drinks. She wasn't really being flirty or went for any kisses with the guys who were being generous so felt good about passing on her. If she's not going to show any love downstairs chances are she won't upstairs either.

Confirmed my current HK favorite is on summer vacation. Man I hate when they leave for a bit in the summer and winter. Popped into Adelitas and selection was ok. Not as terrible as other times. Found a young slim girl pretty attractive but I took my eyes off her for a couple minutes and never saw her again. I should have snatched her up the second I saw her. You snooze, you lose. Couldn't find any other girls I was looking for so decided to go with a SW for a simple wham bam thank you ma'am, which was decent and only cost me 35 bucks total.

Headed back to the border on foot around 5:30 pm and the line was super long. App said wait was 90 minutes. Was approached by a guy claiming he had people up front again for a small fee. Then you guys popped in my head about how it's not right / fair / etc. Decided to tough it out this time. Wait ended up being practically exactly 60 minutes. Ironically when we were about to reach the gate with CBP a young guy popped up out of nowhere and started talking to an older Mexican man, probably in his 70’s, right behind me asking if he would let a couple American buddies stand in line with him so they could cut and they would give him 20 bucks. The old man politely declined and said he didn't need the money and it wasn't fair to the rest of the people standing in line. The young guy kept pressuring him as nicely as he could and the old man still said no. The young guy turns to 3 white guys around 35 years old who were standing to the side and tells them the old man says no. The young guy just stayed in line though with the old man. Guess he was looking to cut in as well. Right when we were going to pass the gate the 3 other guys just end up cutting in anyway and hand the old man a soda and the money. The young guy turns to the old man and says you might as well take it because they're in line anyway, and the old man took the money. I couldn't get too mad because last time I cut the line also, although if that would have happened in front of me instead of back I would have told them they have to stand behind me. I'm not letting anyone cut me. Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didnt notice or didnt care this time around.

Dogers69
07-09-22, 07:20
Just got back home from a little Friday afternoon delight. Was in HK for around 3 hours, they had a pretty decent selection for a Friday afternoon. Was approached by a MILF who said her name was Brisa, promised me 2 pops upstairs. Almost took her up on it. Kept my eye on her for a bit while a couple other guys bought her drinks. She wasn't really being flirty or went for any kisses with the guys who were being generous so felt good about passing on her. If she's not going to show any love downstairs chances are she won't upstairs either.

Confirmed my current HK favorite is on summer vacation. Man I hate when they leave for a bit in the summer and winter. Popped into Adelitas and selection was ok. Not as terrible as other times. Found a young slim girl pretty attractive but I took my eyes off her for a couple minutes and never saw her again. I should have snatched her up the second I saw her. You snooze, you lose. Couldn't find any other girls I was looking for so decided to go with a SW for a simple wham bam thank you ma'am, which was decent and only cost me 35 bucks total.

Headed back to the border on foot around 5:30 pm and the line was super long. App said wait was 90 minutes. Was approached by a guy claiming he had people up front again for a small fee. Then you guys popped in my head about how it's not right / fair / etc. Decided to tough it out this time. Wait ended up being practically exactly 60 minutes. Ironically when we were about to reach the gate with CBP a young guy popped up out of nowhere and started talking to an older Mexican man, probably in his 70s, right behind me asking if he would let a couple American buddies stand in line with him so they could cut and they would give him 20 bucks. The old man politely declined and said he didn't need the money and it wasn't fair to the rest of the people standing in line. The young guy kept pressuring him as nicely as he could and the old man still said no. The young guy turns to 3 white guys around 35 years old who were standing to the side and tells them the old man says no. The young guy just stayed in line though with the old man. Guess he was looking to cut in as well. Right when we were going to pass the gate the 3 other guys just end up cutting in anyway and hand the old man a soda and the money. The young guy turns to the old man and says you might as well take it because they're in line anyway, and the old man took the money. I couldn't get too mad because last time I cut the line also, although if that would have happened in front of me instead of back I would have told them they have to stand behind me. I'm not letting anyone cut me. Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didn't notice or didn't care this time around.The line cutting at the border is mostly a result of passive San Diego, and passive Mexican culture. These people move at half speed compared to the east coast. Driving, walking, . Essentially the line cutting would never happen in NYC. It would be two or three fights a day. I'm surprised gringos would even consider cutting a line and going to Mexican jail. I usually try follow the laws to avoid Mexican jail. The only time I moved up in the line, after 3 hrs in line and watching over 150 people cut me, the local Mexicans went ballistic on me. Because I'm very white. Nobodybsaid nothing to anyone before that. I had to return back to my spot because these guys were close to jumping me they were so angry. You got to remember some of these dudes don't like white or black people. Even the American ones who live on both sides they live in Chula vista area, they don't see many white people and some don't like them.

Latin Bound
07-09-22, 08:12
Just got back home from a little Friday afternoon delight. Was in HK for around 3 hours, they had a pretty decent selection for a Friday afternoon. Was approached by a MILF who said her name was Brisa, promised me 2 pops upstairs. Almost took her up on it. Kept my eye on her for a bit while a couple other guys bought her drinks. She wasn't really being flirty or went for any kisses with the guys who were being generous so felt good about passing on her. If she's not going to show any love downstairs chances are she won't upstairs either.

Confirmed my current HK favorite is on summer vacation. Man I hate when they leave for a bit in the summer and winter. Popped into Adelitas and selection was ok. Not as terrible as other times. Found a young slim girl pretty attractive but I took my eyes off her for a couple minutes and never saw her again. I should have snatched her up the second I saw her. You snooze, you lose. Couldn't find any other girls I was looking for so decided to go with a SW for a simple wham bam thank you ma'am, which was decent and only cost me 35 bucks total.

Headed back to the border on foot around 5:30 pm and the line was super long. App said wait was 90 minutes. Was approached by a guy claiming he had people up front again for a small fee. Then you guys popped in my head about how it's not right / fair / etc. Decided to tough it out this time. Wait ended up being practically exactly 60 minutes. Ironically when we were about to reach the gate with CBP a young guy popped up out of nowhere and started talking to an older Mexican man, probably in his 70s, right behind me asking if he would let a couple American buddies stand in line with him so they could cut and they would give him 20 bucks. The old man politely declined and said he didn't need the money and it wasn't fair to the rest of the people standing in line. The young guy kept pressuring him as nicely as he could and the old man still said no. The young guy turns to 3 white guys around 35 years old who were standing to the side and tells them the old man says no. The young guy just stayed in line though with the old man. Guess he was looking to cut in as well. Right when we were going to pass the gate the 3 other guys just end up cutting in anyway and hand the old man a soda and the money. The young guy turns to the old man and says you might as well take it because they're in line anyway, and the old man took the money. I couldn't get too mad because last time I cut the line also, although if that would have happened in front of me instead of back I would have told them they have to stand behind me. I'm not letting anyone cut me. Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didn't notice or didn't care this time around.As for the CBP, they don't care on what happens in Mexican jurisdiction even if it's in plain sight. This I got directly from an officer.

StRobert
07-09-22, 09:03
Just got back home from a little Friday afternoon delight. Was in HK for around 3 hours, they had a pretty decent selection for a Friday afternoon. Was approached by a MILF who said her name was Brisa, promised me 2 pops upstairs. Almost took her up on it. Kept my eye on her for a bit while a couple other guys bought her drinks. She wasn't really being flirty or went for any kisses with the guys who were being generous so felt good about passing on her. If she's not going to show any love downstairs chances are she won't upstairs either.

Confirmed my current HK favorite is on summer vacation. Man I hate when they leave for a bit in the summer and winter. Popped into Adelitas and selection was ok. Not as terrible as other times. Found a young slim girl pretty attractive but I took my eyes off her for a couple minutes and never saw her again. I should have snatched her up the second I saw her. You snooze, you lose. Couldn't find any other girls I was looking for so decided to go with a SW for a simple wham bam thank you ma'am, which was decent and only cost me 35 bucks total.

Headed back to the border on foot around 5:30 pm and the line was super long. App said wait was 90 minutes. Was approached by a guy claiming he had people up front again for a small fee. Then you guys popped in my head about how it's not right / fair / etc. Decided to tough it out this time. Wait ended up being practically exactly 60 minutes. Ironically when we were about to reach the gate with CBP a young guy popped up out of nowhere and started talking to an older Mexican man, probably in his 70s, right behind me asking if he would let a couple American buddies stand in line with him so they could cut and they would give him 20 bucks. The old man politely declined and said he didn't need the money and it wasn't fair to the rest of the people standing in line. The young guy kept pressuring him as nicely as he could and the old man still said no. The young guy turns to 3 white guys around 35 years old who were standing to the side and tells them the old man says no. The young guy just stayed in line though with the old man. Guess he was looking to cut in as well. Right when we were going to pass the gate the 3 other guys just end up cutting in anyway and hand the old man a soda and the money. The young guy turns to the old man and says you might as well take it because they're in line anyway, and the old man took the money. I couldn't get too mad because last time I cut the line also, although if that would have happened in front of me instead of back I would have told them they have to stand behind me. I'm not letting anyone cut me. Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didnt notice or didnt care this time around.You come back much too early 530 pm of course the line is very long. I suggest coming back between 10 pm and midnight there is no line at all (except Sunday). Take the trolley to your parked car at the trolley parking lot (free if using the trolley) and back home. (last trolley 1249 am).

Sound7
07-09-22, 09:12
Private security are more open to idea of line jumping or straight walking up to the gate. Saw it once with two EU girls. No waiting. Pre-Covid experience.

L.


Just got back home from a little Friday afternoon delight. Was in HK for around 3 hours, they had a pretty decent selection for a Friday afternoon. Was approached by a MILF who said her name was Brisa, promised me 2 pops upstairs. Almost took her up on it. Kept my eye on her for a bit while a couple other guys bought her drinks. She wasn't really being flirty or went for any kisses with the guys who were being

Headed back to the border on foot around 5:30 pm and the line was super long. App said wait was 90 minutes. Was approached by a guy claiming he had people up front again for a small fee. Then you guys popped in my head about how it's not right / fair / etc. Decided to tough it out this time. Wait ended up being practically exactly 60 minutes. Ironically when we were about to reach the gate with CBP a young guy popped up out of nowhere and started talking to an older Mexican man, probably in his 70s, right behind me asking if he would let a couple American buddies stand in line with him so they could cut and they would give him 20 bucks. The old man politely declined and said he didn't need the money and it wasn't fair to the rest of the people standing in line. The young guy kept pressuring him as nicely as he could and the old man still said no. The young guy turns to 3 white guys around 35 years old who were standing to the side and tells them the old man says no. The young guy just stayed in line though with the old man. Guess he was looking to cut in as well. Right when we were going to pass the gate the 3 other guys just end up cutting in anyway and hand the old man a soda and the money. The young guy turns to the old man and says you might as well take it because they're in line anyway, and the old man took the money. I couldn't get too mad because last time I cut the line also, although if that would have happened in front of me instead of back I would have told them they have to stand behind me. I'm not letting anyone cut me. Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didn't notice or didn't care this time around.

Nothing24
07-09-22, 15:39
You come back much too early 530 pm of course the line is very long. I suggest coming back between 10 pm and midnight there is no line at all (except Sunday). Take the trolley to your parked car at the trolley parking lot (free if using the trolley) and back home. (last trolley 1249 am).

I mostly go on Sunday nights and return around 11pm or midnight, never had any wait.

Once in a while I'll make a day trip. After 5 is not that bad for the most part. Usually 20-30 minutes tops. This whole week has been kind of been super busy for those without Sentri.

BrotherMouzone
07-09-22, 20:19
Was approached by a guy claiming he had people up front again for a small fee. Then you guys popped in my head about how it's not right / fair / etc. Decided to tough it out this time. Wait ended up being practically exactly 60 minutes. Ironically when we were about to reach the gate with CBP a young guy popped up out of nowhere and started talking to an older Mexican man, probably in his 70s, right behind me asking if he would let a couple American buddies stand in line with him so they could cut and they would give him 20 bucks. The old man politely declined and said he didn't need the money and it wasn't fair to the rest of the people standing in line. The young guy kept pressuring him as nicely as he could and the old man still said no. The young guy turns to 3 white guys around 35 years old who were standing to the side and tells them the old man says no. The young guy just stayed in line though with the old man. Guess he was looking to cut in as well. Right when we were going to pass the gate the 3 other guys just end up cutting in anyway and hand the old man a soda and the money. The young guy turns to the old man and says you might as well take it because they're in line anyway, and the old man took the money. I couldn't get too mad because last time I cut the line also, although if that would have happened in front of me instead of back I would have told them they have to stand behind me. I'm not letting anyone cut me. Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didnt notice or didnt care this time around.The vast majority of the time CBP won't do anything. Line cutting happens all the time. If they spent their time trying to deal with every case of line cutting it would take up a fairly significant portion of their time on the job and they probably just don't want to deal with it.

That's funny about the young guy offering 20 bucks to the old man as if the old man (or anyone else in line for that matter) has the authority to allow anyone to jump the line simply because he let them stand next to him.

Flyer47
07-09-22, 20:58
Pretty sure they picked the old man to talk to because they knew he wouldn't put up a fight or do anything about it. And behind the old man were some young girls so they weren't going to do anything about it as well. Thought CBP might say something to the guys because they all cut into the line in what I thought was plain view but they seemed oblivious to it. So either they didn't notice or didn't care this time around.I have seen something similar. A group of young dudes talked to a little old Mexican dude waiting in line at the front right before the CBP entryway and after a little verbal protest from the old man, the young dudes cut the line. It is sad to see. It is essentially the young preying on the old.

TerOnlyOnce
07-09-22, 22:51
Have mentioned it on this board before but that offer is always a scam. All they're doing is walking you to the front of the line and then walking away to find the next sucker. There's no one that you're trading places in line with. I fell for it once a year or so ago, though the guy quickly accepted my $10 counter offer. I suppose the "scam" does usually work to our benefit but line jumping is wrong (LOL) so I never did it again. With that said, line jumping does seem fairly common (I see it pretty much every time I'm in line both outside and once you're inside the CBP gate where they first check your passport) and they usually don't do anything about it.Something similar happened to me one time I was in mex. I left HK and went to the border and was trying to cross into the US to make a flight. Line was super long and I really didn't want to wait in it. A Mexican guy was standing around trying to talk to people and he was offering them something. He approached me and said there is a bus that can take me from where I am now all the way to the airport in San Diego. I had no idea how the area worked at all so I actually believed him, mainly cause I was desperate and would rather take a chance instead of wait in line. So reluctantly I agreed, I really thought I was going to miss my flight otherwise.

He wanted like $80 though. It was nuts, I negotiated the price down though. I forget how much, I think I ended up paying $40, or $50. Guy was getting pissed when I tried to negotiate though, and he had a friend with him who just kept talking a lot and trying to rush me. God damn scammers man. So I just paid him the cash and I began to follow him.

They took me to this area near the border, it was kind of close, and there were a bunch of other people there. They were waiting in line to buy these tickets for this bus. The guy I paid went up to the counter and bought a ticket for me. Then he told me to get on the bus. I listened and I was on the bus. Other Americans were also on the bus so I thought it was okay and safe.

What I realized though is that the bus basically took me to the front of the border line. So I did get ahead and cut the big line, but the guy basically lied to me. I thought I was going to go directly to the airport.

It wasn't a total scam, but he basically did some type of arbitrage on me LOL. Charged me double or triple or even more for a bus ticket that I could have bought myself had I known about it.

TerOnlyOnce
07-09-22, 23:05
What's up all, I'm trying to make a trip back to HK soon.

Anything new I should know? Is the rate still $80-100 for a session?

I usually try to never pay 100 or more and get 80 or 90 if I can. And honestly I've made plenty of newbie mistakes my first few trips.

For this trip I'd prefer to only pay the chicks after I fuck them and not give the money upfront once in the hotel room, I hate doing that and it isn't ideal. I'll probably lose some girls and have them not want to leave the club with me if I tell them I want to pay after, but hey I will experiment with that and see what I can do. I will say though that if I was a local of san diego there's no way in fuck I would ever pay upfront. Unfortunately when you take a plane ride to get to HK, the opportunities are limited so you can't really hardline that much.

I also want to get an initial drink with the girls that I am interested in. In the past I would go up to the hottest girl at HK, talk to her for like 10 seconds, and then decide to bring her up to the room cause we'd just be standing there in the middle of the club. But this time around I'd want to get them a drink first. I know it's like $9 which is annoying but I'd say its worth it. I want to interview these putas and let them know what type of service I want and how much time I want. Ideally I want 30-40 minutes but to be honest I feel I should tell chicks I'm looking for 1 hour and see if they agree. I hate being rushed and shit like that, I plan to pay for my own hotel room for the night.

If the chicks I'm interviewing can't give me what I want, it depends how I would handle that but in general I don't mind walking away. Again, if I was a local I would definitely cut the drink short and just leave. There's no point continuing with a dumb puta that won't give me the type of service I want. Which is why the interview is so important in my opinion, let's me screen out the poor quality and scammer girls.

But anyways I'm rambling on at this point. I think I'm going to make a trip this year but will see. Those are the two things I want to do differently and overall I'm hoping for far better and more consistent experiences the next time around.

Anyone have any input on this? Thanks.

TerOnlyOnce
07-09-22, 23:08
I'm not sure if this is true but I think that if you have global entry then you should be able to cut the huge line when going from Tijuana to the US. Just walk up and show them your global entry card.

You can get global entry for free with some premium credit cards. I had it the whole time but I never realized it would possibly work when crossing the border on foot to skip the regular line.

TerOnlyOnce
07-10-22, 05:31
I have this HK girl that is seriously getting too needy and thinks I'm going to be her lifelong family provider and step dad to her kids for some reason. What's the best way to end it with this chica. Just block her # and go ice cold ghost on her or risk an awkard separation text conversation by saying you want to end it via text messages (obviously won't go well). What is everyone's thoughts.I would stop responding.

You don't really owe her anything, she is a girl you pay for sex.

She won't try to confront you or call you out in public either, most girls won't do that if they're being ignored by a guy.

So yeah just ignore and move on, she'll most likely fade out and not address it with you in person.

Rainman306
07-10-22, 05:48
These thought occurs to me based on my own experience and from observations from my visits to HK. At any given time (and for sure when it's slow), the number of chicas can outnumber the number of guys in HK.

However, take this a step further to how many guys are down for sexo at any given moment. You could eliminate guys for all the following reasons:

1. Just had a session and still recovering.

2. Only a wingman for a friend.

3. Just there to drink and party.

4. Not planning to do a session til later on in the night.

5. Using HK as a warm up for a street girl.

6. Too broke or cheap to do an arriba.

When you start to look at this maybe 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 guys is actually ready to do a session in the near term moments. There might be 100 guys in the club, but only 25 who will do an arriba say in the next hour. Then maybe you have 150 Chicas in the club.

Under these dynamics, why would anyone be inclined to pay more or accept a short or rushed session. I'm really going to try for longer sessions at HK in the future.

KetoAndKettle
07-10-22, 07:08
I'm not sure if this is true but I think that if you have global entry then you should be able to cut the huge line when going from Tijuana to the US. Just walk up and show them your global entry card.

You can get global entry for free with some premium credit cards. I had it the whole time but I never realized it would possibly work when crossing the border on foot to skip the regular line.I concur on this. You can do just that. In fact, I'm shocked when I realize, damn I need to renew mine. It's already been almost 5 years since getting mine. Another trip to the govt office. Probably going to be a long drive, since I've since moved to Twin falls from larger city Boise.

Dogers69
07-10-22, 07:21
These thought occurs to me based on my own experience and from observations from my visits to HK. At any given time (and for sure when it's slow), the number of chicas can outnumber the number of guys in HK.

However, take this a step further to how many guys are down for sexo at any given moment. You could eliminate guys for all the following reasons:

1. Just had a session and still recovering.

2. Only a wingman for a friend.

3. Just there to drink and party.

4. Not planning to do a session til later on in the night.

5. Using HK as a warm up for a street girl.

6. Too broke or cheap to do an arriba.

When you start to look at this maybe 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 guys is actually ready to do a session in the near term moments. There might be 100 guys in the club, but only 25 who will do an arriba say in the next hour. Then maybe you have 150 Chicas in the club.

Under these dynamics, why would anyone be inclined to pay more or accept a short or rushed session. I'm really going to try for longer sessions at HK in the future.LOL good luck with that. There can be 1000 woman an one dude and the price is still 100 maybe you can talk her to 80. These girls don't want to be rammed extra time. Even extra time isn't extra pops. Then you got to figure out the room. The VIP card used to give you 15 minutes extra but not sure. The guys gonna still knock, interrupt, make you get dressed to show him the vip card and time beyond that will involve buying drinks, many drinks. Better to go to other bar I found a girl for $50 other day.

Rambo1969
07-10-22, 07:28
They took me to this area near the border, it was kind of close, and there were a bunch of other people there. They were waiting in line to buy these tickets for this bus. The guy I paid went up to the counter and bought a ticket for me. Then he told me to get on the bus. I listened and I was on the bus. Other Americans were also on the bus so I thought it was okay and safe.

What I realized though is that the bus basically took me to the front of the border line. So I did get ahead and cut the big line, but the guy basically lied to me. I thought I was going to go directly to the airport.
Interesting story. Could be useful information.

Where exactly:

Did you board the bus?

Were the bus tickets bought?

Did the bus drop you off at?

TerOnlyOnce
07-10-22, 15:43
LOL good luck with that. There can be 1000 woman an one dude and the price is still 100 maybe you can talk her to 80. These girls don't want to be rammed extra time. Even extra time isn't extra pops. Then you got to figure out the room. The VIP card used to give you 15 minutes extra but not sure. The guys gonna still knock, interrupt, make you get dressed to show him the vip card and time beyond that will involve buying drinks, many drinks. Better to go to other bar I found a girl for $50 other day.If a girl is pushing 100 heavily and won't budge I'd probably just find another girl.

If she's very hot and I just have to have her, then I may do the 100 but I would screen much more heavily before going upstairs. Meaning I'd test her a lot and ask a lot of questions regarding the service, whether she is going to be a puta or not, or if she will rush me. And I would try to maximize as much time as I can get and ideally pay after the sex.

In effect, if I'm going to pay 100, I'm going to be such a pain in her ass that she has to be a mega and hardened puta to want to stay and agree to my demands LOL. And if she does stay and I pay the 100 and the session still sucks, I'll just never see her again. She can continue to see me in the club every week, talking to new girls, and completely ignoring her. Forever on the blacklist LOL.

TerOnlyOnce
07-10-22, 15:46
Interesting story. Could be useful information.

Where exactly:

Did you board the bus?

Were the bus tickets bought?

Did the bus drop you off at?I actually can't remember where I boarded the bus, it was pretty close to the border though, like 5 minutes walk.

Yeah the guy that scammed me bought the bus tickets at this outdoor counter for me.

Bus dropped me off like ahead of the entire line when crossing into the USA. I was still in Mexico but I got to the very end of the line and was able to enter ahead of the line that way. I can't remember exactly how it worked, but I did save time doing this.

Aviator400
07-10-22, 20:46
I concur on this. You can do just that. In fact, I'm shocked when I realize, damn I need to renew mine. It's already been almost 5 years since getting mine. Another trip to the govt office. Probably going to be a long drive, since I've since moved to Twin falls from larger city Boise.I use Global Entry in the Sentri line with no issues. I chose GE in part because I travel in Europe and when returning to the USA I can often skip the line.

Also, the GE is good for 18-24 months after expiration due to Covid slowing the renewals. Mine expired and I waited in line 90 minutes on one trip. Then I read on the gvt web site that if you have applied for renewal, you can still use the GE. The next time I used the Sentri line with the expired GE and was passed without comment or question. I want my 90 minutes back.

Aviator400
07-10-22, 21:09
What's up all, I'm trying to make a trip back to HK soon.

Anything new I should know? Is the rate still $80-100 for a session?

I usually try to never pay 100 or more and get 80 or 90 if I can. And honestly I've made plenty of newbie mistakes my first few trips.

For this trip I'd prefer to only pay the chicks after I fuck them and not give the money upfront once in the hotel room, I hate doing that and it isn't ideal. I'll probably lose some girls and have them not want to leave the club with me if I tell them I want to pay after, but hey I will experiment with that and see what I can do. I will say though that if I was a local of san diego there's no way in fuck I would ever pay upfront. Unfortunately when you take a plane ride to get to HK, the opportunities are limited so you can't really hardline that much.

I also want to get an initial drink with the girls that I am interested in. In the past I would go up to the hottest girl at HK, talk to her for like 10 seconds, and then decide to bring her up to the room cause we'd just be standing there in the middle of the club. But this time around I'd want to get them a drink first. I know it's like $9 which is annoying but I'd say its worth it. I want to interview these putas and let them know what type of service I want and how much time I want. Ideally I want 30-40 minutes but to be honest I feel I should tell chicks I'm looking for 1 hour and see if they agree. I hate being rushed and shit like that, I plan to pay for my own hotel room for the night.

If the chicks I'm interviewing can't give me what I want, it depends how I would handle that but in general I don't mind walking away. Again, if I was a local I would definitely cut the drink short and just leave. There's no point continuing with a dumb puta that won't give me the type of service I want. Which is why the interview is so important in my opinion, let's me screen out the poor quality and scammer girls.

But anyways I'm rambling on at this point. I think I'm going to make a trip this year but will see. Those are the two things I want to do differently and overall I'm hoping for far better and more consistent experiences the next time around.

Anyone have any input on this? Thanks.I think you can expect to pay $100/ session as I have had girls walk away in HK and CC when I offered $80. Didn't even bother to counter, just walked. We talk about holding the line on prices and not overpaying; the girls seem to be doing the same thing in some cases.

I am sure that you can negotiate for an hour if you have your own room or pay extra. However, there are a few "scams" that HK / Cascadas / Rizo / BT are using now. If you have an HK girl for an hour, even if you have your own room, the staff will come knocking. With a bucket in hand saying that you are REQUIRED to buy the bucket, because the girl stayed an hour and isn't in the club selling drinks. The threat is that if you don't buy the bucket, the girl will be required to pay for the bucket when she returns to the club (which might be fiction, but it is the story they tell). This rule is applied unevenly, but it is something to be made aware of. Had a trusted mesero apologize and say that he would get into trouble if he didn't enforce it.

Also, I typically make the trip 3-4 days at a time. Almost every trip I spend one night with an ATF. Been doing this for over six years with no issues. Most recently, my ATF was stopped by uniformed security and escorted to my room. They said that if she was going to spend the night, I must pay the hotel (Cascadas) $300. I called BS, but they wouldn't back down. She was off shift, so I didn't see the problem. She wasn't being kept from selling drinks by staying with me. They escorted her out. We met out on the street and had dinner while I booked a room at a downtown Tijuana hotel for us ($57).

Later I found out from another ATF that management has put in HK / BT putas' contract that they cannot meet clients in Cascadas or Rizo when off shift.

Oh, and fichas are now $10 (not including tip) and the VIP card is only good for 90 days.

DonCarlos1234
07-10-22, 21:25
Interesting story. Could be useful information.

Where exactly:

Did you board the bus?

Were the bus tickets bought?

Did the bus drop you off at?When I walk across I hire a wheelchair guy to push me to the front. Standing more than 20 minutes without semi naked chicas to look at is very difficult. I'm old. LOL.

Just got word 2 guys who frequent the zona came down with covid recently. No telling where they actually got it. No additional details.

My mission is to consult with an orthopedic surgeon and a dental lab. Oh (almost forgot) searching for the hottest chicas available is also on the to do list.

I switched my trip till tomorrow. It should be less crowded, maybe I will wear a mask.

Dogers69
07-10-22, 22:42
Interesting story. Could be useful information.

Where exactly:

Did you board the bus?

Were the bus tickets bought?

Did the bus drop you off at?This bus BS is a scam so huge, you can't miss it. You can literally, not get through into USA when there's a big line without being asked to buy this pass. That's what 90% of the guys are selling when they ask if you want to pay to get through quicker. The cutting the line by walking to the front isn't used as much. The bus is a covid ridden, no air conditioning, no window, max capacity filled bus. You will be on the bus 45 to 60 minutes. The bus crap, I yelled at border patrol for allowing it. Because border patrol opens a side gate just for these bus people to cut the line after the initial checkpoints. The woman was unapologetic. It was that night I caved in and bought the global entry. If I kept going to Tijuana the line cutters from every angle were gonna get me locked up for sure. That line is never more than an hour, if there's no line cutting. Its the line cutting that makes it a 2, 3 4 hrs line.

TerOnlyOnce
07-11-22, 05:54
This bus BS is a scam so huge, you can't miss it. You can literally, not get through into USA when there's a big line without being asked to buy this pass. That's what 90% of the guys are selling when they ask if you want to pay to get through quicker. The cutting the line by walking to the front isn't used as much. The bus is a covid ridden, no air conditioning, no window, max capacity filled bus. You will be on the bus 45 to 60 minutes. The bus crap, I yelled at border patrol for allowing it. Because border patrol opens a side gate just for these bus people to cut the line after the initial checkpoints. The woman was unapologetic. It was that night I caved in and bought the global entry. If I kept going to Tijuana the line cutters from every angle were gonna get me locked up for sure. That line is never more than an hour, if there's no line cutting. Its the line cutting that makes it a 2, 3 4 hrs line.Yeah I remember that's what happened, there is like a side gate near the border entrance into the USA. I took the bus and got to cut the line by entering through the side gate.

Honestly I would just get the global entry. If you go to Tijuana a lot I don't see a reason to wait in the regular lines. There is no need.

TerOnlyOnce
07-11-22, 13:46
I think you can expect to pay $100/ session as I have had girls walk away in HK and CC when I offered $80. Didn't even bother to counter, just walked. We talk about holding the line on prices and not overpaying; the girls seem to be doing the same thing in some cases.

I am sure that you can negotiate for an hour if you have your own room or pay extra. However, there are a few "scams" that HK / Cascadas / Rizo / BT are using now. If you have an HK girl for an hour, even if you have your own room, the staff will come knocking. With a bucket in hand saying that you are REQUIRED to buy the bucket, because the girl stayed an hour and isn't in the club selling drinks. The threat is that if you don't buy the bucket, the girl will be required to pay for the bucket when she returns to the club (which might be fiction, but it is the story they tell). This rule is applied unevenly, but it is something to be made aware of. Had a trusted mesero apologize and say that he would get into trouble if he didn't enforce it.

Also, I typically make the trip 3-4 days at a time. Almost every trip I spend one night with an ATF. Been doing this for over six years with no issues. Most recently, my ATF was stopped by uniformed security and escorted to my room. They said that if she was going to spend the night, I must pay the hotel (Cascadas) $300. I called BS, but they wouldn't back down. She was off shift, so I didn't see the problem. She wasn't being kept from selling drinks by staying with me. They escorted her out. We met out on the street and had dinner while I booked a room at a downtown Tijuana hotel for us ($57).

Later I found out from another ATF that management has put in HK / BT putas' contract that they cannot meet clients in Cascadas or Rizo when off shift.

Oh, and fichas are now $10 (not including tip) and the VIP card is only good for 90 days.In my opinion, if a girl asks for 100, you say 80, and she walks away with zero negotiation, I'd say that's a good thing LOL.

Whatever the case may be, any puta that's not willing to stay an extra minute or two to see if she can finesse her way up to 100 isn't even worth talking with to begin with.

If you do go with the 100, the quality of the service will most likely be poor. This type of girl is running a scam operation. Looking for the easiest and most amount of $$ she can get for the night.

I try to only take girls that at least pretend to care about my satisfaction.

To expand on this, I do remember the last time I was in HK quite a number of girls would be 100% firm on 100. They would not budge at all and kept repeating the number like a puppy "100! 100! Almost as if they thought if they said the number over and over again in demanding voice, that it would actually work. Of course each time I would just say no or I would not say anything.

I would only do 100 if the girl was particularly attractive and I had to have her. And I would definitely try to ensure I'd get the best possible service and the most time I can get.

Whether I actually repeat with girls at 100 is another story. My problem is this: any girl that repeatedly asks for 100 and stays firm on that until you give in, it seems to me that she is running a scam operation. Meaning, her plan is to take the money upfront in the room, give like 15 minutes of effort, and then leave.

This is why in general I would just avoid these girls. They aren't really there to provide a service, just there to make max money in little time. And again, if I were to pay 100, I would make sure I get to pay after the sex. If she doesn't agree to that, then next. I have no problem walking away. The experience will be absolute shit if I agreed to those terms, so there is literally no point, regardless of how hot she is LOL.

Captain Solo
07-11-22, 18:16
I was planning to go down Sunday afternoon to meet a couple bros from out of town, but overnight a wingman got very sick with CoVid. Another wingman was also reinfected after a couple rounds of vaccines. These guys went to Tijuana with me. One got infected and showed symptoms 2 days after he got home. I was driving the car to and back and spent the whole night with him in Tijuana but lucky I did not get infected.

This week a relative got infected and gave it to an elderly person in the household, who got very sick and is still being treated in ICU. That person may not survive this time. I don't want to get infected and give it out to people around me, especially people who have other preconditioned health risks, so I canceled the trip and try to minimize my exposure for a while.

Wish the bros lots of fun in Tijuana and report any problems or potential risks.

When I walk across I hire a wheelchair guy to push me to the front. Standing more than 20 minutes without semi naked chicas to look at is very difficult. I'm old. LOL.

Just got word 2 guys who frequent the zona came down with covid recently. No telling where they actually got it. No additional details.

My mission is to consult with an orthopedic surgeon and a dental lab. Oh (almost forgot) searching for the hottest chicas available is also on the to do list.

I switched my trip till tomorrow. It should be less crowded, maybe I will wear a mask.

Sifu Monger
07-11-22, 22:42
Newbie should be watch out for private dance trick. New rule at HK doesn't allow girls giving lap dance to seduce customers. They require girls to get at least 1 guy per shift into the private dance room, which costs $23 for 5 minutes. Otherwise, the girls have to payout that fee, which sucks.

Had an amazing time at Hong Kong last weekend. Still trying to get over the fact that I had to be back into this dull California's city and normal life. I ventured outside of Zona Norte to an area near Mr. Pampas and CaliMax grocery store. To my surprise, the life of normal Tijuana people are civilized and modern, not ghetto at all. I got a very wrong impression on my first trip.

I am in my late 20's, working in a high-stress and demanding office job but good salary (pulling around 250 k-300 k / year). On my first night, I got ED which is embarrassing as I was trying to bang two girls at the same time. I think it maybe that I consumed too much alcohol prior to sex. Took Viagra the next day and it was the best decision I've taken in this trip. Banged like 3 girls in the same day without an issue.

However, I had stuffy nose as a side effect. Will try Cialis on my next trip to see if it's better.

Nothing24
07-11-22, 23:18
Do you remember the name of the Cazzie girl and where she was from? I did a chica who looks like that named Sarah from Guadalajara a week ago ago.
Finally ran into this girl again last night, her name is Gina from Tijuana. She had a very different look hairstyle wise and even different type of attire. The first time she looked like she wanted to look cute on a actual date and last night she was in full on stripper get up. I had noticed she coughed a couple times before I approached her but didnt think much of it and when I started talking to her she remembered me from the last time we had a drink and said I actually ignored her the last time I was there, but I have no recollection of it LOL. I thought I hadn't seen her since the first time but apparently not. I asked if she wanted to go upstairs and told her I prefer GFE type sessions, which I kind of already knew she was down for but wanted to get some reassurance. But since I had seen her cough already before I approached her, she told me that she was sick and so if I wanted GFE, just to be forewarned. I paused for a second and let my big head take reason over my little head this time. I thanked her for the warning and told her I was going to step outside to eat some tacos and maybe I would catch her later and she said ok maybe next time. If she wasn't sick I would have definitely taken her upstairs.

Made my rounds at Tropical, Adelitas and Chicago. Chicago had nothing to offer for my taste. There was 1 girl at Tropical who I thought was pretty, a solid 8 in my book, who I should have snatched up the first time I saw her but since she was in a corner with a friend and had her head buried in her phone looking bored, I took that as a bad sign and left. When I returned later on for a second visit to see if she was still there, out of curiosity, she was no longer around.

Spent about an hour in Adelitas at the bar. Lately they've been getting an influx of Colombian girls. Was approached by one and she wasn't too bad. Her body was to my liking and her face wasn't bad either. A solid 7, 7. 5 even. She talked to me for about 5 minutes letting me feel up on her, underneath her bikini and everything without buying her a drink. She leaned in for several kisses on the lips but no DFK or even LFK, but lots of teases. I asked if she wasn't into kissing and she said if I took her upstairs she would kiss some more. I didn't get the vibe that she would though, it would probably be more of the same, so after a few minutes I told her maybe next time and she asked for a tip so I gave her a couple bucks.

There's a curly haired spinner around the corner from Gloria bar, I'm sure a lot of you have seen her. I have always thought she was cute but never approached her until last night. She quoted me 30 bucks for a session with 2 positions. I asked if it included oral and she said that would be 10 more bucks. I then asked if she would be fully nude also and she said that would be more money as well, so I had to pass. 40 bucks was already pushing it for a SW session. Maybe if I had pesos we could have worked something out but it was around midnight at this point.

Headed back to Hong Kong and didn't really sense anything other than your standard wham bam thank you ma'am sex so decided to save my money and head back to the border. There's a noticeable amount of girls gone for their summer vacations back home. Took HK car service and the driver offered to play some porn on their little headrest screens as long as I didn't make a mess in the backseat and I laughed and said no thanks I'm good LOL.

Crossed back on foot, there was literally nobody in line.

Pepe Le Pew
07-12-22, 00:30
Was down in Tijuana on unrelated business on Friday, so decided to spend lunchtime at HK. Pickings were decent for midday, but little exceptional. A new tall girl with long split French braids looked good, but on the approach, she put me off in two ways: first, she just wasn't particularly friendly (although she did report that this was only her fourth day at HK, and that she was still getting used to working in that sort of establishment, so maybe you can chalk that up to not having fully settled in); and second, she had a deeper voice than is my preference. I mean, she was no Barry White, but perhaps the deep voice and her height (in heels) matching mine, I left it at just a propina in the cleavage.

A couple of younger girls looked good, but they were in a bit of a clique, chatting so much among themselves, that they didn't exude approachability (or sensuality for that matter).

I noticed a girl I'd previously chatted with at length, but for whatever reason not gone arriba with, sitting alone at the bar, so I approached her again. I recalled that the first time we'd talked, she'd gone by Amanda (and at that time had explained she'd previously been "Chiara", but she'd been away from the club for some time, and some new girl had snagged the name). She explained this time that this same girl was temporarily gone, so she'd reclaimed Chiara. Anyway, whatever her name is, she's cute. A little older (27, I think), but very sweet looking (braces help in that regard, at least for me). Enhanced cleavage, and liposuctioned midsection produce an impressive (if mildly unnatural) figure, which isn't usually my preference, but her personality is sweet enough to make up for it.

One drink, and I suggested that this time we go arriba. Up we went (out the back, as that hotel entrance has fewer steps.). There were a couple of rooms on our way to ours, where the couples inside were producing a lot of noise. I do always wonder why they don't pipe some music into the rooms.

In the room, I was a little disappointed that the kisses didn't go as deep as I'd hoped, but they also weren't pecks. CBJ was decent, but again not ideal. Fairly passionate missionary was all I was looking for, and it delivered. All in all, a decent arriba, but I think on balance I might have been better to go for a newer girl. With the girls who have been around longer and / or are a bit older, the experience can be to some extent smoother, but less likely to give the real bonus points (real DFK, BBBJ, etc.). At least that's my experience.

SENTRI got me through in five minutes, but the regular line (at 2. 30 pm) was extremely long. Looped all the way round at the bottom. A young monger I'd seen at HK tried to play dumb and slip through via the SENTRI line with just his passport, but the CBP gatekeepers were having none of it, and sent him straight back. Likewise an apparently pregnant woman was pleading her case for expedited entry, but they were likewise unsympathetic, and explained that there was no third line. Regular or SENTRI. I would certainly have to cut down on my quick trip visits if I ever lost GE / SENTRI privileges. It's just too unpredictable otherwise.

Bunter Hiden
07-12-22, 01:12
The bus thing is more of a loophole rather than a scam. Originally meant for tour buses full of visitors with luggage. Instead of having everyone unload with their bags and stand in line, the buses are allowed to drive to the front of the line. You will find the buses all the at the end of the shops where you get in line. Trust me, you won't have to find them, they will find you. On Global Entry, yes it is the same as Sentri. But be warned that once when I crossed headed south the visa checker caught that my six month visa was expired and I would need to buy a new one. Then the dick said that my G E did not count as a passport. As I stood there rubbing the $30 in my hand I asked him to just use the passport number off my expired visa and he agreed to that. And if you ever need to get a friend into Mx who does not have a passport, there is a southbound bus near Ped West that can get him / her / they LOL in. Headed back north the CBP will take a drivers license. Especially now that everyone has to have a smart drivers license which ties to their computers.

Rambo1969
07-12-22, 08:12
she did report that this was only her fourth day at HK, and that she was still getting used to working in that sort of establishment, so maybe you can chalk that up to not having fully settled in...
told her I prefer GFE type sessions, which I kind of already knew she was down for but wanted to get some reassurance. But since I had seen her cough already before I approached her, she told me that she was sick and so if I wanted GFE, just to be forewarned. I paused for a second and let my big head take reason over my little head this time. I thanked her for the warning and told her I was going to
since she was in a corner with a friend and had her head buried in her phone looking bored, I took that as a bad sign and left. When I returned later on for a second visit to see if she was still there, out of curiosity, she was no longer around.

I asked if she wasn't into kissing and she said if I took her upstairs she would kiss some more. I didn't get the vibe that she would though, it would probably be more of the same, so after a few minutes I told her maybe next time and she asked for a tip so I gave her a couple bucks..Lots of good nuggets in that report. Thank you for a detailed report.

DonCarlos1234
07-12-22, 09:05
I was planning to go down Sunday afternoon to meet a couple bros from out of town, but overnight a wingman got very sick with CoVid. Another wingman was also reinfected after a couple rounds of vaccines. These guys went to Tijuana with me. One got infected and showed symptoms 2 days after he got home. I was driving the car to and back and spent the whole night with him in Tijuana but lucky I did not get infected.

This week a relative got infected and gave it to an elderly person in the household, who got very sick and is still being treated in ICU. That person may not survive this time. I don't want to get infected and give it out to people around me, especially people who have other preconditioned health risks, so I canceled the trip and try to minimize my exposure for a while.

Wish the bros lots of fun in Tijuana and report any problems or potential risks.

When I walk across I hire a wheelchair guy to push me to the front. Standing more than 20 minutes without semi naked chicas to look at is very difficult. I'm old. LOL.

Just got word 2 guys who frequent the zona came down with covid recently. No telling where they actually got it. No additional details.

My mission is to consult with an orthopedic surgeon and a dental lab. Oh (almost forgot) searching for the hottest chicas available is also on the to do list.

I switched my trip till tomorrow. It should be less crowded, maybe I will wear a mask.

WOW.. Sorry about your friends. The place is packed. I guess it's luck of the draw. At 8 pm I found a Sinaloa prize. As hot as I've ever seen here. Details later. There are people coughing. Congested but about the same as trips in the past. Even during covid and before lockdown in MX. Girls name is Dasha. 5 ft 7 very long think black hair. All natural. she's a dream. Gawd. got her number.. coming back tomorrow. I thought these girls were only on SA LOL, Don C. Out.

Jackie888
07-12-22, 15:33
I was planning to go down Sunday afternoon to meet a couple bros from out of town, but overnight a wingman got very sick with CoVid. Another wingman was also reinfected after a couple rounds of vaccines. These guys went to Tijuana with me. One got infected and showed symptoms 2 days after he got home. I was driving the car to and back and spent the whole night with him in Tijuana but lucky I did not get infected.

This week a relative got infected and gave it to an elderly person in the household, who got very sick and is still being treated in ICU. That person may not survive this time. I don't want to get infected and give it out to people around me, especially people who have other preconditioned health risks, so I canceled the trip and try to minimize my exposure for a while.

Wish the bros lots of fun in Tijuana and report any problems or potential risks.

When I walk across I hire a wheelchair guy to push me to the front. Standing more than 20 minutes without semi naked chicas to look at is very difficult. I'm old. LOL..So I get an email notice that my conference may be cancelled due to Covid. I am flying through the Atlanta hub so I check the Covid level to see how bad the area is. May 5 - May 9 reported 24 new Covid cases. Not bad. I check the latest reported number. May 13.

Then I get to May 13 and it reported a fucking 24,000 new Covid cases. WTF?

Less than a week, and it went from 24 to 24,000 in the state of Georgia.

Yes, there is kind of an uptick in transmission.

Captain Solo
07-12-22, 17:44
Tijuana is a very nice town with tasty, spicy food, hot girls, cheap sex, fun, relaxing for quick visits or vacations. Just be careful, take precautions, don't let your guards down so you don't get victimized and your life ruined.

HK has recently introduced and enforced new rules, also tightened old ones, aiming at increasing revenue and profit. I don't miss girls sitting on my lap crushing my balls in the club. I prefer t kiss the girls, suck tongues, suck tits, rubbing clits and fingering wet pussies with $10 fichas, There are not much sexier things you can do with the girls for 5 min $23 lap dances in the dark and cramped booths. Soon HK will rule out all the kissing and groping in the club, selling them in lap dance booths for more money.

HK hired a bunch of new goons to enforce the rules; the short, wiry, bald-headed old guy is a typical cold-blooded, evil gang banger. I heard HK has been taken over by organized muscle group. You can guess which one. New people are brought in to man the cash registers in HK and Cascada. New cameras were also installed to monitor the cash registers, also clients and putas everywhere. Augustin Mendez was the floor manager handling cash for the operation. He got shot to death on his way to work by a pro hitman on a motorbike a few weeks back. Somebody is tightening the control of HJK's cash and Augustin Mendez was in their way. The bros should be careful and not flaunt their wealth to become a potential target.

A wingman has been visiting some HK girls in their hometowns, immersing in local lifestyles, having fantastic GFEs with the chicas on locations, he dates only 9's and 10's, I have seen them, without paying any compensation. That's the best way to enjoy relationships with the chicas. Try to meet chicas OTC outside the club, but be very discreet and careful not let meseros or managers see or know what you do with the chicas or HK may get jealous, rough you up and potentially ban you from the club. You should know the people who operate HK and other bars in La Zona are ssme of the roughest people in Mexico.

La Zona Norte is a run down, hectic slum infested with prostitutes, drug dealers, beggars, homeless vagrants, deported criminals, gangs, rogue policias. OTOH areas around Mr Pampas, Churrascario do Brasil, Zona Rio Mall, Hipodromo Mall are nice, clean, leafy, relaxed with people and families enjoying normal life. Civie clubs like El Alebrije in Zona Rio is packed with hot young girls on week ends after midnight and they party hard until the club closes at 6. Girls may be prettier, cleaner, less likely gold-digging scammers than putas in the clubs, worth checking out.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/el-alebrije-tijuana

AmorPorFavor
07-13-22, 00:41
HK has recently introduced and enforced new rules, also tightened old ones, aiming at increasing revenue and profit. I don't miss girls sitting on my lap crushing my balls in the club. I prefer t kiss the girls, suck tongues, suck tits, rubbing clits and fingering wet pussies with $10 fichas, There are not much sexier things you can do with the girls for 5 min $23 lap dances in the dark and cramped booths. Soon HK will rule out all the kissing and groping in the club, selling them in lap dance booths for more money.

If HK actually bans kissing and groping we need to stop going there.

Phordphan
07-13-22, 04:15
HK has recently introduced and enforced new rules, also tightened old ones, aiming at increasing revenue and profit. I don't miss girls sitting on my lap crushing my balls in the club. I prefer t kiss the girls, suck tongues, suck tits, rubbing clits and fingering wet pussies with $10 fichas, There are not much sexier things you can do with the girls for 5 min $23 lap dances in the dark and cramped booths. Soon HK will rule out all the kissing and groping in the club, selling them in lap dance booths for more money.

If HK actually bans kissing and groping we need to stop going there.What you mean "We," white man?

I stopped going to that clip joint long ago.

Azfriole
07-13-22, 05:53
Augustin Mendez was the floor manager handling cash for the operation. He got shot to death on his way to work by a pro hitman on a motorbike a few weeks back. Somebody is tightening the control of HJK's cash and Augustin Mendez was in their way. The bros should be careful and not flaunt their wealth to become a potential

https://www.yelp.com/biz/el-alebrije-tijuanaMendez was killed back in March!

SmallWeinerGuy
07-13-22, 18:04
If HK actually bans kissing and groping we need to stop going there.Agreed, HK banning floor touching and smooching is a fundamental misunderstanding of their customers. It's like when Vegas tried to become family friendly or when coca cola tinkered with the formula.

Captain Solo
07-13-22, 18:09
Amor,

With van loads of guys descending on HK and Casacda every weekend, HK's prices and quality are heading to Las Vegas levels. I ran into so many Vegas guys checking in Cascada with their big suitcases for their splurges.

At current price levels, only a few exceptionally beautiful, nice and clean girls are worth buying fichas and going to hotel. I got too many girls with stinky pussies, body defects, bad skin, bad breath, bad attitudes in HK and Tropical they just kill off any sex appeals for me.

The bros should reign in their largesse and generosity, not spoil the greedy putas with their conniving meseros and screw up the market for everyone. A very nice bro picked up a hot HK girl to his room. She spread the news a big fish was hooked to workers in HK and Cascada. Everyone had his hand out for tip on the way to the room. Her mesero insisted he had to buy a bucket for the first 30 min. He was so much in love with the girl so agreed to buy the first bucket, tipping the mesero a $100 bill hehe. Mesero felt the bro still owed him a big favor, so 30 minutes later he knocked on the door and insisted on selling another bucket. The bro bought it and tipped $20 this time; mesro got mad and complained about the cheap propina hehe. He wrote it up in another USA site.

Another bro took a Chicago girl to hotel Jalo for ST. The puta whispered to the hotel guy to charge him $34 instead of the normal $14 for ST room. He got pissed and bailed on her. He did the right thing to the slimy snake.

The bros should give their excess cash to charity at home or in Ukraine, not the ugly, greedy and shamelessly manipulative putas and meseros. HK girls are known to bring guys for sexy visits to their hometowns without demanding compensation, if you play your cards right. Try not to drive pussies inflation, lose your games to the putas and spoil the market for the rest of the guys.

SeaBeeJoe
07-13-22, 22:03
Amor,

With van loads of guys descending on HK and Casacda every weekend, HK's prices and quality are heading to Las Vegas levels. I ran into so many Vegas guys checking in Cascada with their big suitcases for their splurges.

At current price levels, only a few exceptionally beautiful, nice and clean girls are worth buying fichas and going to hotel. I got too many girls with stinky pussies, body defects, bad skin, bad breath, bad attitudes in HK and Tropical they just kill off any sex appeals for me.

The bros should reign in their largesse and generosity, not spoil the greedy putas with their conniving meseros and screw up the market for everyone. A very nice bro picked up a hot HK girl to his room. She spread the news a big fish was hooked to workers in HK and Cascada. Everyone had his hand out for tip on the way to the room. Her mesero insisted he had to buy a bucket for the first 30 min. He was so much in love with the girl so agreed to buy the first bucket, tipping the mesero a $100 bill hehe. Mesero felt the bro still owed him a big favor, so 30 minutes later he knocked on the door and insisted on selling another bucket. The bro bought it and tipped $20 this time; mesro got mad and complained about the cheap propina hehe. He wrote it up in another USA site.

Another bro took a Chicago girl to hotel Jalo for ST. The puta whispered to the hotel guy to charge him $34 instead of the normal $14 for ST room. He got pissed and bailed on her. He did the right thing to the slimy snake.

The bros should give their excess cash to charity at home or in Ukraine, not the ugly, greedy and shamelessly manipulative putas and meseros. HK girls are known to bring guys for sexy visits to their hometowns without demanding compensation, if you play your cards right. Try not to drive pussies inflation, lose your games to the putas and spoil the market for the rest of the guys.Captain I agree completely that's why I loved away. I still have some fun talking to regular females at least I am not molested to buy them a drink LOL. HK is getting too ridiculousbfor me, I haven't banged a girl in there for over a year. Not sure with these report that the next time I am down to Tijuana that I will ever bang another girl there.

Dogers69
07-14-22, 02:20
Captain I agree completely that's why I loved away. I still have some fun talking to regular females at least I am not molested to buy them a drink LOL. HK is getting too ridiculous for me, I haven't banged a girl in there for over a year. Not sure with these report that the next time I am down to Tijuana that I will ever bang another girl there.HK is a place I go I need some danger in my life, the walk from revolucion st in the dark at 10 pm and midnight alone is a rush. But I haven't been in HK in a while and I'm staying 3 blocks away most of the week due to San diego being over saturated with tourists. It will only get worse comic con and gay month start very soon.

Hargow20
07-14-22, 05:44
I agree prices have been high in HK for many years now. My biggest complaint is that the girls want $100 for anything. I would go with some of them if they willing to negotiate for a reasonably priced BJ. The biggest problem is that there are to many guys that are to willing to give into their high prices.


Amor,

With van loads of guys descending on HK and Casacda every weekend, HK's prices and quality are heading to Las Vegas levels. I ran into so many Vegas guys checking in Cascada with their big suitcases for their splurges.

At current price levels, only a few exceptionally beautiful, nice and clean girls are worth buying fichas and going to hotel. I got too many girls with stinky pussies, body defects, bad skin, bad breath, bad attitudes in HK and Tropical they just kill off any sex appeals for me.

The bros should reign in their largesse and generosity, not spoil the greedy putas with their conniving meseros and screw up the market for everyone. A very nice bro picked up a hot HK girl to his room. She spread the news a big fish was hooked to workers in HK and Cascada. Everyone had his hand out for tip on the way to the room. Her mesero insisted he had to buy a bucket for the first 30 min. He was so much in love with the girl so agreed to buy the first bucket, tipping the mesero a $100 bill hehe. Mesero felt the bro still owed him a big favor, so 30 minutes later he knocked on the door and insisted on selling another bucket. The bro bought it and tipped $20 this time; mesro got mad and complained about the cheap propina hehe. He wrote it up in another USA site.

Another bro took a Chicago girl to hotel Jalo for ST. The puta whispered to the hotel guy to charge him $34 instead of the normal $14 for ST room. He got pissed and bailed on her. He did the right thing to the slimy snake.

The bros should give their excess cash to charity at home or in Ukraine, not the ugly, greedy and shamelessly manipulative putas and meseros. HK girls are known to bring guys for sexy visits to their hometowns without demanding compensation, if you play your cards right. Try not to drive pussies inflation, lose your games to the putas and spoil the market for the rest of the guys.

Jackie888
07-14-22, 06:11
HK pre covid was fun and I was able to put up with the felon meseros. HK since covid is fucking retarded and with fucking retarded rules, and it is too much a headache to deal with both the felon meseros and criminally stupid management at the same time. I refused to buy a single drink there because it has turned into the Playboy bar. Just another tourist trap. I don't know what the fuck happened to HK management. It is pure shit.

DonCarlos1234
07-14-22, 07:26
I mean on Wednesday is a good time for a raid the place is still very crowded I left because there was too many people Monday I had a great time. All the rules and prices and all that stuff I think I you can complain about or just don't come the police May shut the place down for all I know.

Sound7
07-14-22, 08:11
In the past I have seen enter and leave in opposite direction and visit the upper level too.


I mean on Wednesday is a good time for a raid the place is still very crowded I left because there was too many people Monday I had a great time. All the rules and prices and all that stuff I think I you can complain about or just don't come the police May shut the place down for all I know.

StRobert
07-14-22, 08:46
HK has recently introduced and enforced new rules, also tightened old ones, aiming at increasing revenue and profit. I don't miss girls sitting on my lap crushing my balls in the club. I prefer t kiss the girls, suck tongues, suck tits, rubbing clits and fingering wet pussies with $10 fichas, There are not much sexier things you can do with the girls for 5 min $23 lap dances in the dark and cramped booths. Soon HK will rule out all the kissing and groping in the club, selling them in lap dance booths for more money.

If HK actually bans kissing and groping we need to stop going there.My opinion of the problem is not Hong Kong but illegal prostitution in the state of California. Mexicans can change the regulations in Hong Kong and do whatever they want because there is no competition from the US. If prostitution were legal in the state of California, the price in Hong Kong immediately drops to $ 50. But right now if you want legal BJ or sex and not be arrested in sting operation in the USA the only place in the Southwest is Tijuana Zona Norte and the price at night clubs is $ 80- $ 100.

SmallWeinerGuy
07-14-22, 14:56
My opinion of the problem is not Hong Kong but illegal prostitution in the state of California. Mexicans can change the regulations in Hong Kong and do whatever they want because there is no competition from the US. If prostitution were legal in the state of California, the price in Hong Kong immediately drops to $ 50. But right now if you want legal BJ or sex and not be arrested in sting operation in the USA the only place in the Southwest is Tijuana Zona Norte and the price at night clubs is $ 80- $ 100.This isn't wrong but it also isn't relevant. It's a lot easier for us to put economic pressure on Hong Kong ownership or otherwise go to a different bar in Tijuana than it is for us to lobby state / federal legislatures to have prostitution decriminalized in the US.

SeaBeeJoe
07-14-22, 15:11
My opinion of the problem is not Hong Kong but illegal prostitution in the state of California. Mexicans can change the regulations in Hong Kong and do whatever they want because there is no competition from the US. If prostitution were legal in the state of California, the price in Hong Kong immediately drops to $ 50. But right now if you want legal BJ or sex and not be arrested in sting operation in the USA the only place in the Southwest is Tijuana Zona Norte and the price at night clubs is $ 80- $ 100.America will never legalize prostitution, They love to make it a Felony and put us dirty perps in jail forever!! Sometimes I think our country progresses so slowly but it is the way of things. Tijuana being the only option is still a good one, just be mindful of your money, Don't get drunk in the zona or drugged up, read these forums for advice, and stay safe. Also don't take the Chicas too serious, they are in the business of separating you from your money, at least make them work for it. No free money for nothing!! That's from personal experience. See you in the zona in the future brother!!

SeaBeeJoe
07-14-22, 15:15
Mendez was killed back in March!4 month ago is still 16 weeks, which is a "few weeks back". Are you offended by the work "week"?

SomeDude321
07-14-22, 15:41
HK has recently introduced and enforced new rules, also tightened old ones, aiming at increasing revenue and profit. I don't miss girls sitting on my lap crushing my balls in the club. I prefer t kiss the girls, suck tongues, suck tits, rubbing clits and fingering wet pussies with $10 fichas, There are not much sexier things you can do with the girls for 5 min $23 lap dances in the dark and cramped booths. Soon HK will rule out all the kissing and groping in the club, selling them in lap dance booths for more money.

If HK actually bans kissing and groping we need to stop going there.They're not consistent with enforcing these rules and they'll enforce them when there's an abundance of customers. Makes business sense, on a busy weekend like 4th of July they can afford to piss off a few customers. During normal business hours or when there's a lull between major holidays, they'll relax to keep the customers they have. C19 has changed their clientele too. Vegas people and those who would normally go to Asia to monger are making Tijuana home for the time being and partially increasing the prices (besides the overall inflation going on everywhere, 9.1% in US). Time will tell if they stick around & whether their pre C19 clientele don't go elsewhere from the price increase and decreased value.


If prostitution were legal in the state of California, the price in Hong Kong immediately drops to $ 50. But right now if you want legal BJ or sex and not be arrested in sting operation in the USA the only place in the Southwest is Tijuana Zona Norte and the price at night clubs is $ 80- $ 100.

CA has decriminalized street walkers: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-01/gavin-newsom-signs-bill-to-repeal-californias-anti-loitering-law-debate-sex-work.
Those were the baby steps it took to legalize weed. Don't think CA will have full blown brothels any time soon, but decriminalizing streetwalkers is a good start.

Azfriole
07-14-22, 16:56
4 month ago is still 16 weeks, which is a "few weeks back". Are you offended by the work "week"?16 is not a few, LOL. I'm just pointing out these changes have been in the works for a while, more than a few weeks (2 to 3).

No offense taken! Thanks for checking thou.

Aviator400
07-14-22, 19:18
America will never legalize prostitution, They love to make it a Felony and put us dirty perps in jail forever!! Sometimes I think our country progresses so slowly but it is the way of things. Tijuana being the only option is still a good one, just be mindful of your money, Don't get drunk in the zona or drugged up, read these forums for advice, and stay safe. Also don't take the Chicas too serious, they are in the business of separating you from your money, at least make them work for it. No free money for nothing!! That's from personal experience. See you in the zona in the future brother!!Hummm. Does it say anything about prostitution in the US Constitution? The Super Political Court might get a case for this. JK It will never be legal, but one can dream. It would be so great if one could take a short drive to be satisfied. Likely more expensive, but it would save a lot on airfare.

WombatEd2
07-14-22, 19:21
CA has decriminalized street walkers: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-01/gavin-newsom-signs-bill-to-repeal-californias-anti-loitering-law-debate-sex-work.
Not exactly. According to the article that you posted, what they've done is to repeal the law against loitering. Loitering is not hooking. Prostitutes and mongers caught in the act will still be prosecuted.

SomeDude321
07-14-22, 20:41
Not exactly. According to the article that you posted, what they've done is to repeal the law against loitering. Loitering is not hooking. Prostitutes and mongers caught in the act will still be prosecuted.Yup, soliciting and doing the deed is still illegal, but cops aren't supposed to bug SW and potential Johns, something they would do in places like Figueroa in LA. Where the standing around ends and soliciting begins is to be figured out in the courts. But the fact they would decriminalize the loitering of clearly working girls is a surprise in it of itself.


America will never legalize prostitution... Nevada has legal brothels where prostitution is legal. So there is a precedent for brothels & prostitution to be legal in the states. Trying to expand that will be an uphill battle.

Jackie888
07-14-22, 22:00
Amor,

With van loads of guys descending on HK and Casacda every weekend, HK's prices and quality are heading to Las Vegas levels. I ran into so many Vegas guys checking in Cascada with their big suitcases for their splurges.

At current price levels, only a few exceptionally beautiful, nice and clean girls are worth buying fichas and going to hotel. I got too many girls with stinky pussies, body defects, bad skin, bad breath, bad attitudes in HK and Tropical they just kill off any sex appeals for me.

The bros should reign in their largesse and generosity, not spoil the greedy putas with their conniving meseros and screw up the market for everyone. A very nice bro picked up a hot HK girl to his room. She spread the news a big fish was hooked to workers in HK and Cascada. Everyone had his hand out for tip on the way to the room. Her mesero insisted he had to buy a bucket for the first 30 min. He was so much in love with the girl so agreed to buy the first bucket, tipping the mesero a $100 bill hehe. Mesero felt the bro still owed him a big favor, so 30 minutes later he knocked on the door and insisted on selling another bucket. The bro bought it and tipped $20 this time; mesro got mad and complained about the cheap propina hehe. He wrote it up in another USA site.

Another bro took a Chicago girl to hotel Jalo for ST. The puta whispered to the hotel guy to charge him $34 instead of the normal $14 for ST room. He got pissed and bailed on her. He did the right thing to the slimy snake.

The bros should give their excess cash to charity at home or in Ukraine, not the ugly, greedy and shamelessly manipulative putas and meseros. HK girls are known to bring guys for sexy visits to their hometowns without demanding compensation, if you play your cards right. Try not to drive pussies inflation, lose your games to the putas and spoil the market for the rest of the guys.When I was a kid, my dad yelled at me for littering. He explained the reason was that we are minorities, and so we cannot create an impression that we are savages by doing stupid shit in public. Then he made me do pushups until I passed out but that is another story.

I hope your HK bro is not Asian, because he is giving the rest of us Asians a bad name. Specifically that we are big pussies. And that all that a meseros has to do is to breath on an Asian, and we would shit in our pants in panic while reaching for our padded wallet. And that would suck. If he is Asian, please instruct him to give the meseros the Middle Finger of Peace.

Re Chicago, I think they must train their chicas to do the same because I had a Chicago chica do the same to me. But instead of walking off, this Asian gentleman agreed to the $30 one hour room and accepted the implied extra 30 minutes of free sex. So the $30 + $80 for the full hour was pretty cool.

SeaBeeJoe
07-14-22, 22:49
Yup, soliciting and doing the deed is still illegal, but cops aren't supposed to bug SW and potential Johns, something they would do in places like Figueroa in LA. Where the standing around ends and soliciting begins is to be figured out in the courts. But the fact they would decriminalize the loitering of clearly working girls is a surprise in it of itself.

Nevada has legal brothels where prostitution is legal. So there is a precedent for brothels & prostitution to be legal in the states. Trying to expand that will be an uphill battle.Not legal in many parts of Nevada only in certain jurisdictions. What I meant is at the federal level. I do not think we will see federal legalization of prostitution in my lifetime. Who knows though, states like Texas make solicitation a felony even on the first offense. It is states like Texas that will make federal legalization very difficult if not impossible. Of course the government could defer the legalization of prostitution to the individual states, still not an easy road imo. I can see maybe California being one of the first states after Nevada to legalize it as they did with Marijuana. But even in Nevada it is only legal in certain jurisdictions, outside of Las Vegas in a city called Pahrump and outside of Reno, which I have visited before.

AmorPorFavor
07-14-22, 22:57
Hummm. Does it say anything about prostitution in the US Constitution? The Super Political Court might get a case for this. JK It will never be legal, but one can dream. It would be so great if one could take a short drive to be satisfied. Likely more expensive, but it would save a lot on airfare.The extreme religious right will never allow prostitution to be legalized in the US. Hell they just managed to ban abortion in half the country. They are not pro life, they are anti sex.

Dogers69
07-14-22, 23:20
The extreme religious right will never allow prostitution to be legalized in the US. Hell they just managed to ban abortion in half the country. They are not pro life, they are anti sex.I think NYC decriminalized prostitute to a large degree. They don't do the type sting operations you see in Florida. Get caught in a armed robbery and get released in an hour anyway right now. I read the news in NYC everyday haven't read of a prostitution arest since before covid. Arresting prostitutes is economic racism they said. Its also racist the working girl is a immigrant and person of color. Which maybe 70% are. In fact if they arest the Chinese massage parlor girl, she can then claim hardship, being misled to move here from China, and be given citizenship. They have a program for quick citenzihip for working girls. There must be at least 80 working girl brothels in NYC. Maybe as many as 300.

Phordphan
07-15-22, 05:56
Hummm. Does it say anything about prostitution in the US Constitution? The Super Political Court might get a case for this. JK It will never be legal, but one can dream. It would be so great if one could take a short drive to be satisfied. Likely more expensive, but it would save a lot on airfare.Prostitution is legal in some Nevada counties. Take a drive and visit one and you will know what legalized prostitution would be like in the USA. I strongly suspect that you will not like it.

Phordphan
07-15-22, 06:03
The extreme religious right will never allow prostitution to be legalized in the US. Hell they just managed to ban abortion in half the country. They are not pro life, they are anti sex.The religious right? They're the least of your worries. If you think the feminists would blithely allow legal prostitution then you're not paying attention. Have you visited any of the "People's Republic" countries? The hard-line leftists are death on prostitution, too.

The "religious right" didn't ban abortion anywhere. SCOTUS sent the decisions back to the States where it was supposed to have been in the first place. Many states had pre-Roe regulation of abortion. Few ban it outright, but few allowed complete abortion-on-demand.

Captain Solo
07-15-22, 06:56
The bro is not Asian. He's a well-off mainstream politico, so you can guess his demographics. I found him open, honest, caring and fun to hang out with.

In the case with this puta, he clearly cared too much for her, did not want small change to spoil her mood and the moment. He was following his passion. If you don't care about anyone or anything in your life, you are a confirmed sociopathic asshole. But if you care too much, you will be victimized and a loser in relationships and transactions. Smart people know how to balance between the 2 extremes, adapt to the circumstances and act in ways that produce win-win feelings and good wills for all involved.

Some people respond to love, some to greed, lust, fear, threats, violence. Figure out what they respond to and push the right buttons. But I believe even your worst enemies would respect and cooperate with you if you show them your fairness and good reasons. I got into quite a few confrontations with putas and workers in HK and on the streets. I set goals and priorities for what I want and use persuasions to get them. Don't always win, but have reasonable good times nevertheless.

HK and Tijuana are good training grounds to improve your skills to get what you want and succeed in life.

Hargow20
07-15-22, 14:56
Hopefully we will more girls working the streets in SD & Socal. Part of the problem is that so many of the girls insist on dressing so scantily and flashy. So many of out of town girls insist on standing in the middle of the street. Personally I could find what I needed in the SD I would not bother visiting Tijuana.


Yup, soliciting and doing the deed is still illegal, but cops aren't supposed to bug SW and potential Johns, something they would do in places like Figueroa in LA. Where the standing around ends and soliciting begins is to be figured out in the courts. But the fact they would decriminalize the loitering of clearly working girls is a surprise in it of itself.

Nevada has legal brothels where prostitution is legal. So there is a precedent for brothels & prostitution to be legal in the states. Trying to expand that will be an uphill battle.

SeaBeeJoe
07-15-22, 16:29
The bro is not Asian. He's a well-off mainstream politico, so you can guess his demographics. I found him open, honest, caring and fun to hang out with.

In the case with this puta, he clearly cared too much for her, did not want small change to spoil her mood and the moment. He was following his passion. If you don't care about anyone or anything in your life, you are a confirmed sociopathic asshole. But if you care too much, you will be victimized and a loser in relationships and transactions. Smart people know how to balance between the 2 extremes, adapt to the circumstances and act in ways that produce win-win feelings and good wills for all involved.

Some people respond to love, some to greed, lust, fear, threats, violence. Figure out what they respond to and push the right buttons. But I believe even your worst enemies would respect and cooperate with you if you show them your fairness and good reasons. I got into quite a few confrontations with putas and workers in HK and on the streets. I set goals and priorities for what I want and use persuasions to get them. Don't always win, but have reasonable good times nevertheless.

HK and Tijuana are good training grounds to improve your skills to get what you want and succeed in life.Captain I think the recipe for success in the zone is as follows. Number 1. Don't bring more money then you want to spend and leave your Credit / Debit cards at home or you will spend more. Number 2. Do not take any of the Chica's aka prostitutes in the zona bars, streets, Oxxo, where ever. Serious. These girls are expert at separating you from your money, trust me they all are. Number 3. Learn some basic Spanish, you can do this thru Babel, or Rosetta stone, just find one and download it to your smart phone and practice at least 30 min per day, believe me it will help. Number 3. Do not get drunk or high while in the zona. You defiantly increase your chances of being ripped off by a waiter or a Chica when you are out of your mind drug or high. Number 4. Read these forums for advice and follow it!! Have fun and return to fuck another day.

SeaBeeJoe
07-15-22, 16:40
When I was a kid, my dad yelled at me for littering. He explained the reason was that we are minorities, and so we cannot create an impression that we are savages by doing stupid shit in public. Then he made me do pushups until I passed out but that is another story.

I hope your HK bro is not Asian, because he is giving the rest of us Asians a bad name. Specifically that we are big pussies. And that all that a meseros has to do is to breath on an Asian, and we would shit in our pants in panic while reaching for our padded wallet. And that would suck. If he is Asian, please instruct him to give the meseros the Middle Finger of Peace.

Re Chicago, I think they must train their chicas to do the same because I had a Chicago chica do the same to me. But instead of walking off, this Asian gentleman agreed to the $30 one hour room and accepted the implied extra 30 minutes of free sex. So the $30 + $80 for the full hour was pretty cool.I am half Asian myself and also white. But in Mexico they always call me "Chino". I don's mind as I call them "Mexican" LOL. I agree I think a lot of our Asian bros are being too nice to the Putas and the meseros. Look guys they aren't your friends ok, they are there to make as much money as they can per shift period!! You want a friend PM me and I will hang out with you as long as you want and we can talk, hell my company is cheap too, I only ask you buy me a few beers, no sex though lololol!

Captain Solo
07-15-22, 23:17
CB Joe.

You posted some valuable advice based on your experiences with many girls in Tijuana, some long-term relationships. I think you were too nice and soft, so you were taken advantage of. Bar girls all over the world are greedy, manipulative snakes. They take pleasure of draining guys' wallets, taking their last pennies then laugh among themselves, calling these guys stupid hehe. If you want a wholesome relationship with a girl, your chance of failure is probably 99.5% with greedy, immoral bar girls.

Nothing in this universe will remain perfect over long time, including human relationships. We would call it success just to trade some satisfaction and happiness, paying for them with money, commitment, occasional headache etc.

Most of the bros in this site only look for Shirt to medium long relationships. Besides a few wisened snakes, many HK girls are young, naive, hungry, scared and can also be manipulated. A wingman has been gong to chicas' hometowns for dates, immersing in their lifestyles with lots of fun and fantastic sex, no compensation demanded. He does not speak Spanish and target only 9's and 10's in HK. I have seen some of them, really, nice, fresh, pretty young girls. This is the best way to travel and have rich fun on the road. I wish the bro posts more about how it went with those girls.

Captain I think the recipe for success in the zone is as follows. Number 1. Don't bring more money then you want to spend and leave your Credit / Debit cards at home or you will spend more. Number 2. Do not take any of the Chica's aka prostitutes in the zona bars, streets, Oxxo, where ever. Serious. These girls are expert at separating you from your money, trust me they all are. Number 3. Learn some basic Spanish, you can do this thru Babel, or Rosetta stone, just find one and download it to your smart phone and practice at least 30 min per day, believe me it will help. Number 3. Do not get drunk or high while in the zona. You defiantly increase your chances of being ripped off by a waiter or a Chica when you are out of your mind drug or high. Number 4. Read these forums for advice and follow it!! Have fun and return to fuck another day.


Captain I think the recipe for success in the zone is as follows. Number 1. Don't bring more money then you want to spend and leave your Credit / Debit cards at home or you will spend more. Number 2. Do not take any of the Chica's aka prostitutes in the zona bars, streets, Oxxo, where ever. Serious. These girls are expert at separating you from your money, trust me they all are. Number 3. Learn some basic Spanish, you can do this thru Babel, or Rosetta stone, just find one and download it to your smart phone and practice at least 30 min per day, believe me it will help. Number 3. Do not get drunk or high while in the zona. You defiantly increase your chances of being ripped off by a waiter or a Chica when you are out of your mind drug or high. Number 4. Read these forums for advice and follow it!! Have fun and return to fuck another day.

Nothing24
07-16-22, 00:50
I know Captain Solo was being sort of facetious when he said girls would stop making out in the club but I have now been here almost 2 hours and I haven't seen 1 girl kiss a guy at all. Not even a peck.

Not saying they've stopped doing it, but by now I should have seen at least a few kissing or making out. Closest Ive seen is an older guy giving a girl several kisses on the cheek while shes giggling.

On another note, I have a pocket knife, decent sized, I forgot I had on me. Went to the parking lot nearby and hid it in a corner to pick up later. Hopefully it’s still there lol. I can’t believe I forgot I had it on me.

Dogers69
07-16-22, 00:58
I know Captain Solo was being sort of facetious when he said girls would stop making out in the club but I have now been here almost 2 hours and I haven't seen 1 girl kiss a guy at all. Not even a peck.

Not saying they've stopped doing it, but by now I should have seen at least a few kissing or making out. Closest I've seen is an older guy giving a girl several kisses on the cheek while shes giggling.Captain wasn't joking around. For guys who go to HK weekly, it was very easy to notice a drastically difference of flirting from the woman about 15 days ago. I had been going 4 x a week for two months. Suddenly the girls stopped asking for a dollar, they stopped walking up to guys sitting at the bar stools to flirt and maybe get themselves sexn or a ficha. You walked into HK last night and not one girl said Hello,. The girls at the bar next to me didn't even look at me. I guess I'm not everyone's type but when I looked around, I also didn't see much flirting going on. And the make it rain guy in middle wasn't there so the atmosphere was very poor. The looks of the girls took a hit as well as I guess they let the 7, 7.5 girls work in the summer to fill in for the 8,8.5 girls HK usually has. It was 11 pm Thursday when I went so the atmosphere should been much better. Covid getting bad again so that's not helping.

Nothing24
07-16-22, 02:22
I hear you Dogers.

Just to show the contrast between the two clubs right now, after almost two and a half hours in HK, I went over to Adelitas to see what they had over there. I got a drink at the bar and sat there for not even 30 minutes, closer to 20 and several girls approached me, letting me feel up on them. Next thing I know I had a light skinned girl from Colombia with nice tits and ass licking my ear, whispering sweet nothings. I understood her for the most part but she had a heavy Colombian accent. She starts giving me some LFK action and all of a sudden she starts talking about how she likes it in the ass and will give me a BBBJ. Also wants me to go down on her and promises it tastes like sugar. Needless to say I was sold. She quoted 100, I tried to bring her down to 80. She didn't outright shoot it down but she said for the services she was providing, she didn't think 100 was a bad price, which was true. I told her ok let's go. She came through on all her promises, GFE service except for penetration which was covered, I didn't mind though. Maybe if I offered her a few more bucks she would have gone BBFS. She wasn't kidding about liking it in the ass either, she was begging me to give it to her harder and harder so I pounded as hard as I could. Finished cowgirl with DFK. On top of everything else she wasn't a clock watcher and they didn't knock at exactly 30 minutes, it was 40 minutes at least. She wanted me to go for one more hour for another Benjamin but I politely declined. After I finished she asked for a foot rub which I'm sure would have sent some of you foot guys further into heaven.

I guess I should post this in the Adelitas thread but I just wanted to show the stark differences between the clubs at the moment.

Looks wise I give this Colombian gem a 7, service was 8. 5. I give the service that score because she could have been a little more active in bed, I probably did 60 percent of the work, which was fine. I didn't mind pounding away at her. Some girls are just more sexually energized than others. She made up for it by providing a great menu.

Cocr Brotheler
07-16-22, 05:18
I know Captain Solo was being sort of facetious when he said girls would stop making out in the club but I have now been here almost 2 hours and I haven't seen 1 girl kiss a guy at all. Not even a peck.

Not saying they've stopped doing it, but by now I should have seen at least a few kissing or making out. Closest Ive seen is an older guy giving a girl several kisses on the cheek while shes giggling.

On another note, I have a pocket knife, decent sized, I forgot I had on me. Went to the parking lot nearby and hid it in a corner to pick up later. Hopefully its still there lol. I cant believe I forgot I had it on me.Yes I see the totally hot hot hotties predominately in the front part of the club but have good success rate of pulling chicas with smoking hot bods (maybe not perfect faces) from rear and side areas of the club.

Over MDW pulled a 21 year old smoking hot bod chica from Puebla who let me caress and stroke her kitty in the club as much I want plus some DFTK! I took her arriba for $80 USA and was full on love fest plus after I came the first time either she didn't realize or care I convincingly said I needed a new condom and had MSOG! She stayed a full hour too! Felt like a porn star at nearly 56 years old!

Afterwards I went back down into the club after an hour's rest and some totally hot porn star type chica asked me point blank "Do You Want to Phuck me?". She was smoking hot everywhere (thin, pony tails dyed blond + not large fake breasts or ass). I said "oh yes" but after some time could not find her and went for a failed session chica (a light skinned rubia in HK dress up to my room but demanded payment up front so sent her way).

HK is heaven on earth if can filter out the bad ones. And if don't do any is fun as hell to watch them all parading around!

I had a double room so don't know if that is reason why Puebla chica stayed a full hour and never any knocks. She left on her own. I have sensual hot experiences with those Mexicanas down country and may retire in Puebla o Oaxaca!

KetoAndKettle
07-16-22, 05:53
That souonds amazig. Isn't puebla just a civie club? Across the street from that hotel ticuana right?


Yes I see the totally hot hot hotties predominately in the front part of the club but have good success rate of pulling chicas with smoking hot bods (maybe not perfect faces) from rear and side areas of the club.

Over MDW pulled a 21 year old smoking hot bod chica from Puebla who let me caress and stroke her kitty in the club as much I want plus some DFTK! I took her arriba for $80 USA and was full on love fest plus after I came the first time either she didn't realize or care I convincingly said I needed a new condom and had MSOG! She stayed a full hour too! Felt like a porn star at nearly 56 years old!

Afterwards I went back down into the club after an hour's rest and some totally hot porn star type chica asked me point blank 'Do You Want to Phuck me?. She was smoking hot everywhere (thin, pony tailed and dyed blond + not large fake breasts or ass). I said "oh yes" but after some time could not find her and went for a failed session chica (a light skinned rubia in HK dress up to my room but demanded payment up front so sent her way).

HK is heaven on earth if can filter out the bad ones. And if don't do any is fun as hell to watch them all parading around!

I had a double room so don't know if that is reason why Puebla chica stayed a full hour and never any knocks. She left on her own. I have sensual hot experiences with those Mexicanas down country and may retire in Puebla o Oaxaca!

Cocr Brotheler
07-16-22, 05:55
I mean the city in south of MEX!

I wanna cum cum cum up into the best looking ones that make the best chance of success babies LOL!

Nothing24
07-16-22, 06:38
That's awesome, Cocr Brotheler. Lately I have enjoyed hunting for my GFE sessions as well. A self imposed challenge if you will, since most of my regulars are off on their summer breaks visiting their families back home. They have spoiled me with amazing, hot, GFE / PSE sessions, that regular lays just don't do it for me anymore and so I like to be out on the hunt for new girls I can extract those types of sessions from. There's a girl at HK with what I consider to be the perfect body but I decline to have sex with her because she said no kisses or BBBJ. There's another girl with a great body as well but a beautiful face to match. This girl is practically a 10 in my book but I won't take her upstairs because I just know it'll be just standard sex.

So what I do now is get a drink and sit down for a while, letting the girls approach me or ask for a tip and I begin my questioning to see just how far they are willing to go in the sack. Luckily with this last adelitas girl it only took me around 20 minutes to weed her out from all the rest but before that I spent 2. 5 hours at Hong Kong with no prospects. Since I had nothing else to do, I didn't mind hanging around but not all guys have the ability to do that. It can be fun and a little thrilling mining for gold but it's also nice to have your sure things on deck so you don't have to waste any time if you don't want to.

After my adelitas session I went back to HK for another hour, surveying which girls were coming on duty. In that time I only saw 1 girl kissing a guy at the bar and it was only pecks on the lips. Literally did not see anyone else getting any type of legit action.

I was going to cross on foot but since I saw the line was trending downwards by car, I took the risk and drove into Tijuana. Got there around 3 and returned about 7:30 pm. Before I got in my car I went back for the knife and thankfully it was still there. Luckily, the Ready Lane only had a 20 minute wait.

Clone8884
07-16-22, 06:43
Went to HK for my first time last night. Drove down the 5 and exited at the final exit before the border. I parked in the first parking lot to the right. I wasn't 100% sure where to go but I did see some videos online and followed the crowd and ended up at the border crossing room. I printed out a 7 day fmm at home but the guy didn't even look at it. Then there was a long line of people that I made the mistake of waiting in for a minute or two only to realize its for people with backpacks / bags which I didn't have. I jumped the line, walked in and followed the path to the taxi area. I offered the first taxi 5 usd to take me to HK but he said 6 usd so I kept walking. The second taxi driver accepted 5 usd. It was about 7 pm when I got out of the taxi and I hadn't eaten all day so I decided to grab some tacos on the corner by HK. I cruised around the street and alley eating and checking everything out. I have never been to a place that had an open market like this so it was strange seeing the police next to me and then the girls also next to me asking for sex. I knew that this place was special.

After eating I went into HK. I was in a sort of shock and amazement. I spent the next 10 or 15 minutes just slowly walking around the place and getting a feel for the layout. The stage in the back had two girls doing a whip cream show. I walked up to them and they started making out and staring at me as they were covered head to toe in whip cream, they also had butt plugs haha. I walked upstairs to what I think is was the second story and I tried to walk up to the third story but a girl told me it had just closed down. I sat down at the couch on the second story and one of the waiters came up to me and asked me what I wanted to drink and what kind of girls I like. He brought over a tall skinny 22 year old who came over and sat with me, I forget her name. She quoted me 100 usd, I said 80 usd and then 90 usd but she declined both so I just agreed with 100. I tipped the waiter guy a dollar for bringing the girl over and me and her went up to the room. I paid 30 usd for the room and up we went. Mish, doggy, CG and then I finished in the condom. I paid her after we finished and she went on her way.

It was probably around 8:30 at this point and I needed to take a break so I walked around and had a smoke. I walked inside Adelitas and poked my head in a few places. I walked up the alley and the street past the alley and checked out the street girls. After an hour I went back into HK. I was still pretty tired / drained and wanted a place to sit down. This is where I made my mistake. I sat down at one of the booths and instantly had waiters on me which is fine. I needed another water so he got me that. Then he brought over another girl, Julianna was her name I think. Big ass with nice tits. She started the hustle. The waiter and her got me to buy her a beer but I made it clear that I didn't want a bucket and only one beer for her. She brought me over to the chairs by the pole and then she wanted to order food also but I wasn't hungry. I caved in the moment and bought one of their shitty appetizers even though I told her I wasn't hungry. At this point I could see the waiter and her were just milking me of money so I told her how much and she said 100 usd. I told her 90 usd and she agreed. I asked if BBBJ is included but she said for 100 yes. She had me tip the girl on the pole 2 dollars and then we went up to the room. Then one of the guys brought two beers to out room which they didn't ask me or anything. I should've said no but I paid for them also. The fucked up part is that I am sober, have been for years, so it was all a waste. She wanted to get paid right when we got into the room, fine. Then she started to put on a condom and I told her no, I wanted BBBJ since I paid 100. She then tried to swindle me but I kept my foot down and she paid me back 10 usd and gave me CBJ. The sex was good, I enjoyed it.

It must've been around 10:30 now and I felt kind of played by all the nickel and dimes inside HK. I didn't even get the food I paid 10 usd for. I decided to walk around and try to find a spot that I could sit and chill without getting asked for a dollar every second. I went to a restaurant around the corner from tropical. I met up with a SG around 11:30 after eating, I couldn't finish, looked at my wallet and then the ATM. Decided I will stick to my budget and leave. Got back to my car around midnight.

Overall I had a wonderful time. In the future I plan on getting a room at the Cascadas even if I don't plan to stay overnight. I wanted a place to chill and relax in between fucking and having my own room would've been perfect. Is it normal that the girls and waiters try to get you to buy everything when you sit down in HK? Is there a way to avoid it? I don't mind tipping at all but I dislike paying for shit that I don't want at all.

LuvMexicanas
07-16-22, 12:44
Yes I see the totally hot hot hotties predominately in the front part of the club but have good success rate of pulling chicas with smoking hot bods (maybe not perfect faces) from rear and side areas of the club.

Over MDW pulled a 21 year old smoking hot bod chica from Puebla who let me caress and stroke her kitty in the club as much I want plus some DFTK! I took her arriba for $80 USA and was full on love fest plus after I came the first time either she didn't realize or care I convincingly said I needed a new condom and had MSOG! She stayed a full hour too! Felt like a porn star at nearly 56 years old!

Afterwards I went back down into the club after an hour's rest and some totally hot porn star type chica asked me point blank "Do You Want to Phuck me?". She was smoking hot everywhere (thin, pony tails dyed blond + not large fake breasts or ass). I said "oh yes" but after some time could not find her and went for a failed session chica (a light skinned rubia in HK dress up to my room but demanded payment up front so sent her way).

HK is heaven on earth if can filter out the bad ones. And if don't do any is fun as hell to watch them all parading around!

I had a double room so don't know if that is reason why Puebla chica stayed a full hour and never any knocks. She left on her own. I have sensual hot experiences with those Mexicanas down country and may retire in Puebla o Oaxaca!I had this in Oaxaca and yes it was a sensual hot experience.

SeaBeeJoe
07-16-22, 15:22
Went to HK for my first time last night. Drove down the 5 and exited at the final exit before the border. I parked in the first parking lot to the right. I wasn't 100% sure where to go but I did see some videos online and followed the crowd and ended up at the border crossing room. I printed out a 7 day fmm at home but the guy didn't even look at it. Then there was a long line of people that I made the mistake of waiting in for a minute or two only to realize its for people with backpacks / bags which I didn't have. I jumped the line, walked in and followed the path to the taxi area. I offered the first taxi 5 usd to take me to HK but he said 6 usd so I kept walking. The second taxi driver accepted 5 usd. It was about 7 pm when I got out of the taxi and I hadn't eaten all day so I decided to grab some tacos on the corner by HK. I cruised around the street and alley eating and checking everything out. I have never been to a place that had an open market like this so it was strange seeing the police next to me and then the girls also next to me asking for sex. I knew that this place was special.

After eating I went into HK. I was in a sort of shock and amazement. I spent the next 10 or 15 minutes just slowly walking around the place and getting a feel for the layout. The stage in the back had two girls doing a whip cream show. I walked up to them and they started making out and staring at me as they were covered head to toe in whip cream, they also had butt plugs haha. I walked upstairs to what I think is was the second story and I tried to walk up to the third story but a girl told me it had just closed down. I sat down at the couch on the second story and one of the waiters came up to me and asked me what I wanted to drink and what kind of girls I like. He brought over a tall skinny 22 year old who came over and sat with me, I forget her name. She quoted me 100 usd, I said 80 usd and then 90 usd but she declined both so I just agreed with 100. I tipped the waiter guy a dollar for bringing the girl over and me and her went up to the room. I paid 30 usd for the room and up we went. Mish, doggy, CG and then I finished in the condom. I paid her after we finished and she went on her way.Thank you for your first timer story. I would say you did well and didn't get taken too bad, I had worse done to me then a missing food item. Remember your in control you have the money. No one will ever do anything or make you do anything without you agreeing. Stay safe my bro!

Azfriole
07-16-22, 19:05
At Clone8884 it kind of sounds like they might have picked up on it being your first time. Live and learn. Get the VIP card if you plan on coming back a few times in a 3 month period. Especially if you go on a Mon or Tues as it can pay for itself rather quick those days. God job on trying to talk them down on price, most new guys just cave at the initial offer or over pay.

BrotherMouzone
07-16-22, 23:45
Went to HK for my first time last night. Drove down the 5 and exited at the final exit before the border. I parked in the first parking lot to the right. I wasn't 100% sure where to go but I did see some videos online and followed the crowd and ended up at the border crossing room. I printed out a 7 day fmm at home but the guy didn't even look at it. Then there was a long line of people that I made the mistake of waiting in for a minute or two only to realize its for people with backpacks / bags which I didn't have. I jumped the line, walked in and followed the path to the taxi area. I offered the first taxi 5 usd to take me to HK but he said 6 usd so I kept walking. The second taxi driver accepted 5 usd. It was about 7 pm when I got out of the taxi and I hadn't eaten all day so I decided to grab some tacos on the corner by HK. I cruised around the street and alley eating and checking everything out. I have never been to a place that had an open market like this so it was strange seeing the police next to me and then the girls also next to me asking for sex. I knew that this place was special.

After eating I went into HK. I was in a sort of shock and amazement. I spent the next 10 or 15 minutes just slowly walking around the place and getting a feel for the layout. The stage in the back had two girls doing a whip cream show. I walked up to them and they started making out and staring at me as they were covered head to toe in whip cream, they also had butt plugs haha. I walked upstairs to what I think is was the second story and I tried to walk up to the third story but a girl told me it had just closed down. I sat down at the couch on the second story and one of the waiters came up to me and asked me what I wanted to drink and what kind of girls I like. He brought over a tall skinny 22 year old who came over and sat with me, I forget her name. She quoted me 100 usd, I said 80 usd and then 90 usd but she declined both so I just agreed with 100. I tipped the waiter guy a dollar for bringing the girl over and me and her went up to the room. I paid 30 usd for the room and up we went. Mish, doggy, CG and then I finished in the condom. I paid her after we finished and she went on her way.

It was probably around 8:30 at this point and I needed to take a break so I walked around and had a smoke. I walked inside Adelitas and poked my head in a few places. I walked up the alley and the street past the alley and checked out the street girls. After an hour I went back into HK. I was still pretty tired / drained and wanted a place to sit down. This is where I made my mistake. I sat down at one of the booths and instantly had waiters on me which is fine. I needed another water so he got me that. Then he brought over another girl, Julianna was her name I think. Big ass with nice tits. She started the hustle. The waiter and her got me to buy her a beer but I made it clear that I didn't want a bucket and only one beer for her. She brought me over to the chairs by the pole and then she wanted to order food also but I wasn't hungry. I caved in the moment and bought one of their shitty appetizers even though I told her I wasn't hungry. At this point I could see the waiter and her were just milking me of money so I told her how much and she said 100 usd. I told her 90 usd and she agreed. I asked if BBBJ is included but she said for 100 yes. She had me tip the girl on the pole 2 dollars and then we went up to the room. Then one of the guys brought two beers to out room which they didn't ask me or anything. I should've said no but I paid for them also. The fucked up part is that I am sober, have been for years, so it was all a waste. She wanted to get paid right when we got into the room, fine. Then she started to put on a condom and I told her no, I wanted BBBJ since I paid 100. She then tried to swindle me but I kept my foot down and she paid me back 10 usd and gave me CBJ. The sex was good, I enjoyed it.

It must've been around 10:30 now and I felt kind of played by all the nickel and dimes inside HK. I didn't even get the food I paid 10 usd for. I decided to walk around and try to find a spot that I could sit and chill without getting asked for a dollar every second. I went to a restaurant around the corner from tropical. I met up with a SG around 11:30 after eating, I couldn't finish, looked at my wallet and then the ATM. Decided I will stick to my budget and leave. Got back to my car around midnight.

Overall I had a wonderful time. In the future I plan on getting a room at the Cascadas even if I don't plan to stay overnight. I wanted a place to chill and relax in between fucking and having my own room would've been perfect. Is it normal that the girls and waiters try to get you to buy everything when you sit down in HK? Is there a way to avoid it? I don't mind tipping at all but I dislike paying for shit that I don't want at all.Good trip report. That first time checking out HK, Adelita's, etc. And the amazement of how everything works down there (and the fact that it's all legal LOL) is always going to be one of the best times you'll have down there. Wish I could go back to that. You made a few rookie mistakes but nothing too bad LOL. There are vets who get ripped off worse. One strategy to reduce harassment from waiters is to find a seat at the bar (rather than a booth) and order drinks exclusively at the bar. Meseros generally won't bother you if you have a drink in hand and are ordering at the bar. Girls will come around, but probably not as much as if you're sitting at a booth. If you're sitting at a booth you're almost expected to be buying drinks and / or have a girl keeping you company, that's just the way it is.

Nothing24
07-17-22, 00:01
Went to HK for my first time last night. Drove down the 5 and exited at the final exit before the border. I parked in the first parking lot to the right. I wasn't 100% sure where to go but I did see some videos online and followed the crowd and ended up at the border crossing room. I printed out a 7 day fmm at home but the guy didn't even look at it. Then there was a long line of people that I made the mistake of waiting in for a minute or two only to realize its for people with backpacks / bags which I didn't have. I jumped the line, walked in and followed the path to the taxi area. I offered the first taxi 5 usd to take me to HK but he said 6 usd so I kept walking. The second taxi driver accepted 5 usd. It was about 7 pm when I got out of the taxi and I hadn't eaten all day so I decided to grab some tacos on the corner by HK. I cruised around the street and alley eating and checking everything out. I have never been to a place that had an open market like this so it was strange seeing the police next to me and then the girls also next to me asking for sex. I knew that this place was special.For it to have been your first time, you didn't do too bad. Looks like you did your research. The cab drivers, much like everyone else are always going to try to get more money out of you. 5 is the max you should pay. You did the right thing moving on to the next guy who would accept the 5. I've seen cab drivers try to charge as much as 10 bucks for the 2 mile trip to HK. You also had the option of HK car service but maybe you didn't see them out there, they could have been in between trips.

Good on you also not outright accepting the 100 quote. Always try for 80 or somewhere in between, even if the girl doesn't budge, an attempt must at least be made. In HK, the 30 dollar room charge should include a drink for yourself and the girl at no extra charge. If you want to tip the bartender a buck or two that's on you but not necessary. In the past, as early as last year, the rooms were only 20 bucks and would give you the option of 30 bucks which included drinks. Most people went for the standard 20 option so they have since made the 30 mandatory with the 2 drinks included. You can also opt for bottled water instead. Maybe even a soda but I haven't asked. I always get a dos equis or water myself depending on how I'm feeling. Tropical club also has the same room fees and options as Hong Kong since they're managed under the same umbrella. If you go to Adelitas or Chicago club, the price of the room is 20 with the drinks being optional, as they should be, but wouldn't be surprised if they also make it mandatory at some point.

If I ever want to just hang without being bothered too much I go to Adelitas and sit at the bar and nurse my drink for a while and watch the stage or girls walking around. As long as you have your drink the waiters won't bother you at all, it's a little bit of a more relaxed atmosphere. Once in a while a girl will approach you to engage in some banter or ask for a tip, but don't feel pressured to give them anything, you can just wave them off and say no thank you and they will leave you alone. Sometimes I don't mind the banter because you can end up in a sexually charged conversation where you can end up negotiating nice GFE sessions. I've had a lot of success at Adelitas with this method lately. If a girl talks to me and has been letting me feel up on her and has grinded on me I might give her a buck or two, but you don't have to necessarily tip them either. Just tell them "no mas dinero" indicating you're out of money and they'll leave you alone.

I wouldn't say it's normal for every girl and waiter at Hong Kong to try to squeeze every last dollar out of you but at the same time they're going to try to make their money. But not every girl in HK is like that. Also, if they can tell you're not from Mexico or from Mexican descent they know you're coming over from the US and most likely have the money to burn so they're going to come after you a little harder than others. At the end of the day you have the money though so you set the parameters. The second you sense it goes from regular customer service to an outright hustle just wave them off and say no, even if you have to get a little rude about it. Of course always try to handle it civically though. You can also say, no thanks maybe later. After a couple of those they will get the hint and move onto the next guy.

Locamotive
07-17-22, 00:14
Prostitution is legal in some Nevada counties. Take a drive and visit one and you will know what legalized prostitution would be like in the USA. I strongly suspect that you will not like it.Especially when you see the quality of the women and the prices.

Cocr Brotheler
07-17-22, 00:34
Nice N24! The one SG I pulled that trip also from Puebla and great!

Cocr Brotheler
07-17-22, 00:36
Wowie wow LM!

Is that a tata going down her spinal cord?

Clone8884
07-17-22, 02:22
Get the VIP card if you plan on coming back a few times in a 3 month period. Especially if you go on a Mon or Tues as it can pay for itself rather quick those days.Yeah I was checking it out at the counter when I was leaving. I am leaning towards buying that next time I go. I live about two hours away so I will be back soon.


Thank you for your first timer story. I would say you did well and didn't get taken too bad, I had worse done to me then a missing food item. Remember your in control you have the money. No one will ever do anything or make you do anything without you agreeing. Stay safe my bro!Yeah next time I will have to put down my foot down more. Cheers dude!


One strategy to reduce harassment from waiters is to find a seat at the bar (rather than a booth) and order drinks exclusively at the bar. Meseros generally won't bother you if you have a drink in hand and are ordering at the bar. Girls will come around, but probably not as much as if you're sitting at a booth. If you're sitting at a booth you're almost expected to be buying drinks and / or have a girl keeping you company, that's just the way it is.I appreciate the info. Next time I will avoid the booth and try sitting at the bar instead.


You also had the option of HK car service but maybe you didn't see them out there, they could have been in between trips.

In HK, the 30 dollar room charge should include a drink for yourself and the girl at no extra charge. If you go to Adelitas or Chicago club, the price of the room is 20 with the drinks being optional, as they should be, but wouldn't be surprised if they also make it mandatory at some point.

If I ever want to just hang without being bothered too much I go to Adelitas and sit at the bar and nurse my drink for a while and watch the stage or girls walking around. Sometimes I don't mind the banter because you can end up in a sexually charged conversation where you can end up negotiating nice GFE sessions. I've had a lot of success at Adelitas with this method lately. If a girl talks to me and has been letting me feel up on her and has grinded on me I might give her a buck or two, but you don't have to necessarily tip them either. Just tell them "no mas dinero" indicating you're out of money and they'll leave you alone.

The second you sense it goes from regular customer service to an outright hustle just wave them off and say no, even if you have to get a little rude about it.Grateful for all the advice! I knew about the HK limo service but I wasn't sure where it was and I kind of just had tunnel vision for a taxi. I had no idea that the $30 room charge included two drinks, I paid $10 for those drinks LOL. Cheap but valuable lesson! I was only in Adelitas for a few minutes but I plan on spending more time there next time. I also want to check out tropical and Chicago. Thanks for the GFE tactic, I have only been mongering for a few months so this is super helpful!

Thanks for the help guys. Between this forum and some youtube videos I was able to learn a lot. I am young and just got my global entry card so I will be returning soon for more fun! Cheers!

LuvMexicanas
07-17-22, 03:30
Wowie wow LM!

Is that a tata going down her spinal cord?The best part was after barebacking her I pulled out and glazed her tata with my leche.

Hadez
07-17-22, 14:45
The short version of a long story is I met a girl in HK who went through some really bad experiences. I am still not sure what happened and only reason I know something happened bad is because how much she wanted to not be there. When I took her up to my room from HK she wanted to stay in my room all night. She only wanted 100. Some of you probably think less of me but I gave her more. She was in my room 5 hours. Was multiple times. I was actually trying to see a girl I have seen before but she was busy. So this beautiful girl spend most of the night with me. I got some drinks from HK. I like tequila and she was enjoying the beer. All I know is girls from Monterrey have magic pussies. 3 girls from here are currently in my top 10. Maybe more as a few girls in my top ten I have never seen again and not sure where they from. They are all GFE types. By the time we separate we know each others real names and have each others contact info. She offers to come to Tijuana from where ever she is in Mexico to see me. I thought this was kind of crazy but she knows how to get flights for 500 pesos. Shoot I can get a flight for about $20. Not sure how I feel about flying in an airplane for $20. The company flies out of LAX so they must be good.

This girl is talking to me all week. She does not like being in the club. She is having bad nights. She wants me to see her outside the club. When I try to bring up money she says no. I get confused. She tells me to relax. The short version is after driving in Tijuana for the first time this century (I have done it a lot in the 80's-90's) and being on pretty girl time for 3 hours I pick her up outside the hotel. Ask her if she wants to go to the beach. She seems really excited about the idea. It is kind of late at this point. I am working in like 12-14 hours and her flight home is in 10 hours. My work time is flexible but she really wants to see her family.

We end up on Tijuana beach in an Apartment right on the beach. $200 for a 1 bed room, 1 living room, kitchen, bathroom and balcony with amazing ocean view. We both really happy about the place. We lay on couch. She wants to watch TV. After some rubbing and kissing I get the feeling sex is not going to happen. She did tell me no money needed from me. When I bring it up she tells me to relax. This girl likes to tell me to relax. I suppose I am high energy and really into what I am doing. These traits serve me well in my career. This girl wants to relax and enjoy being away from the club and the negative experience she went through. She encourages me to go to sleep. I want to enjoy her time. Even if we not going to have sex at this moment she is enjoying the GFE stuff we doing and so am I. I am afraid I will sleep and wake up with little to no time to get her back for her flight. I go to sleep. She wakes me up and says lets go to bed. I do some things and join her in bed. We have great sex. She may have gone through some bad things but she does not show it at all in her sexual performance. She cums and I know it because the clit does not lie. After we get photos together in this pretty cool apartment. She gets some photos solo. We start driving back. She cries. She is amazed how much of a gentleman I am. How kind I am. Now look I am a super freak. A travieso. I enjoy positive experiences. Whatever freaky shit I want I can find a girl to give it to me. I never thought of myself as a gentleman. I just like having fun and it is more fun for me when the girl is having fun. I now realize one of the reasons I have so much fun in the Zona is these girls go through it sometimes but I always treat them like ladies. Yea they sex workers but they people. To keep it real it is more fun for me when they into it.

We talk all the time. This girl works all over Mexico. I told her she going to be my travel guide. She is going to show me all the fun places to have fun in Mexico. She does not need to come to Tijuana. I will travel mexico.

Do not get me wrong. Not only does my regular wingman want to come to Tijuana but I have 2 people working on their documentation to get there. Just told some dudes with good jobs about Tijuana recently. One of them wants to spend multiple days in Tijuana. I will be showing my pals around the clubs. Between this girl and another guy I know I also plan on enjoying what this country has to offer including the best girls on the planet. When I push their buttons their passion, the sexual energy and the fun they show me is second to none.

Guess I should thank who ever treated this girl badly. It turned out to be one of the best experiences of my life and my life has had some good moments for a single guy with no kids.

TheMan31
07-17-22, 23:24
The short version of a long story is I met a girl in HK who went through some really bad experiences. I am still not sure what happened and only reason I know something happened bad is because how much she wanted to not be there. When I took her up to my room from HK she wanted to stay in my room all night. She only wanted 100. Some of you probably think less of me but I gave her more. She was in my room 5 hours. Was multiple times. I was actually trying to see a girl I have seen before but she was busy. So this beautiful girl spend most of the night with me. I got some drinks from HK. I like tequila and she was enjoying the beer. All I know is girls from Monterrey have magic pussies. 3 girls from here are currently in my top 10. Maybe more as a few girls in my top ten I have never seen again and not sure where they from. They are all GFE types. By the time we separate we know each others real names and have each others contact info. She offers to come to Tijuana from where ever she is in Mexico to see me. I thought this was kind of crazy but she knows how to get flights for 500 pesos. Shoot I can get a flight for about $20. Not sure how I feel about flying in an airplane for $20. The company flies out of LAX so they must be good.

This girl is talking to me all week. She does not like being in the club. She is having bad nights. She wants me to see her outside the club. When I try to bring up money she says no. I get confused. She tells me to relax. The short version is after driving in Tijuana for the first time this century (I have done it a lot in the 80's-90's) and being on pretty girl time for 3 hours I pick her up outside the hotel. Ask her if she wants to go to the beach. She seems really excited about the idea. It is kind of late at this point. I am working in like 12-14 hours and her flight home is in 10 hours. My work time is flexible but she really wants to see her family.Be careful they are great actresses.

DonCarlos1234
07-17-22, 23:45
Yea they sex workers but they people. To keep it real it is more fun for me when they into it.

We talk all the time. This girl works all over Mexico. I told her she going to be my travel guide. She is going to show me all the fun places to have fun in Mexico. She does not need to come to Tijuana. I will travel mexico.

Do not get me wrong. Not only does my regular wingman want to come to Tijuana but I have 2 people working on their documentation to get there. Just told some dudes with good jobs about Tijuana recently. One of them wants to spend multiple days in Tijuana. I will be showing my pals around the clubs. Between this girl and another guy I know I also plan on enjoying what this country has to offer including the best girls on the planet. When I push their buttons their passion, the sexual energy and the fun they show me is second to none.

Guess I should thank who ever treated this girl badly. It turned out to be one of the best experiences of my life and my life has had some good moments for a single guy with no kids.The real GFE from real girlfriends is what you want. I have met a few sex workers and more girls on SA like this. One in Tijuana last Monday. Mexico is a beautiful (but dangerous) country and it's romantic. I lived in Baja for 6 years, visited for 20 years and continue to visit. Car stolen, bullets bouncing off walls next to me, people shot in hktj alley, lots of thievery. I still love Mexico. I am thinking of leaving a car with a friend in Baja to have when I fly in. ALSO any gorgeous female deserves to be treated well. They expect it but hktj dissapoints. Till they adjust, and become "pros" they either leave the brothels scene or of lucky find some one like you. Someone who treats them the way they should be treated. I won't comment on the objectification and sad acts that bros brag about doing here. That is why hos are hos. Gentlemen get the best sex because its real. Congrats!

Hadez
07-18-22, 10:26
I am not trying to get every girl to meet outside the club. The club is where I excel. My wingmen and I have no problem spending money in the clubs as we greatly enjoy the environment provided.

The girls are the talent tho and the talent deserves to get paid. The exceptional talent does deserve extra.


Be careful they are great actresses.

Hadez
07-18-22, 10:37
I hear you on the dangers of Mexico. Danger is all over the world. I did not bring up the details but yea the recent report did include a direct encounter I had to navigate and a lesson about not driving in the hills between the beach and Tijuana. There are ways to minimize risk.

Honestly even the Tijuana beach looked pretty rough. The girl was loving it but it was probably the most rough looking beach I have spent the night in. With that said the people I did interact with were cool and friendly.

The girls in this country are amazing. I am going to enjoy the current GFE as long as she allows and who knows what is next.

The clubs need not worry. My main wingman keeps bugging about next trip. Others keep bugging about their trips. I am trying to get someone down there who needs it badly. The clubs are by far the best place I have found to collect numbers.


The real GFE from real girlfriends is what you want. I have met a few sex workers and more girls on SA like this. One in Tijuana last Monday. Mexico is a beautiful (but dangerous) country and it's romantic. I lived in Baja for 6 years, visited for 20 years and continue to visit. Car stolen, bullets bouncing off walls next to me, people shot in hktj alley, lots of thievery. I still love Mexico. I am thinking of leaving a car with a friend in Baja to have when I fly in. ALSO any gorgeous female deserves to be treated well. They expect it but hktj dissapoints. Till they adjust, and become "pros" they either leave the brothels scene or of lucky find some one like you. Someone who treats them the way they should be treated. I won't comment on the objectification and sad acts that bros brag about doing here. That is why hos are hos. Gentlemen get the best sex because its real. Congrats!

LightMan1988
07-18-22, 18:54
This report is from March trip to San Diego. I was there for work. I had sometime on hand. Given that I have an old friend there who knows the lay of the land, I decided to cross the border. Used the walkway to cross with car parked on the right side of the border. Always sketchy this area. Recommend having a Spanish speaking wing man. Walkway cross was easy. The Mexican cops shook us for some cash or threatened to deport us. Cost me 20 dollars to get a special permit. 7 dollars for taxi 100 dollars for pussy 30 dollars for the room. Shaving cream show is always awesome.

Nothing24
07-19-22, 00:53
Was at HK last night. When I arrived around 10 pm there was an abundance of females. Way more than guys at the time. Even saw a few girls I hadn't seen in a while. There was one I've been particularly interested in and made out with a couple weeks ago and wanted to take her upstairs but unfortunately some guy was hogging her all night. She was at his table the entire time, wish he would have just taken her upstairs and gotten it over with.

Saw a couple girls making out with guys this time around so that isn't completely gone, just a little more sparse I guess.

Went to Adelitas and sat at the bar for a while. Had my eye on this young looking girl who seemed kind of wild, but again, she was also occupied with an older monger who wouldn't let her go buying her what seemed like an endless amount of drinks. Was approached by bangable looking chick who would sneak in some kisses whenever the bartender had his back towards us. Seemed strategic but don't know what was going on there. She was also offering me anal, but I ultimately passed hoping the younger wild girl would eventually be available, but she never was so I just ended up leaving.

Mishwar
07-19-22, 02:53
Hi all,

Wondering if there is a dress code in the HK club like it is in most US strip Joints. Would hate to go across and find out that I need cloths that I am not planning to take with.

Thanks.

Captain Solo
07-19-22, 05:17
Just wear nice, clean casual clothes to make chicas feel comfortable and fall in love.

This hot summer guys have been wearing shorts and tank tops, jean and T shirts, a few prefer to deck out in dinner jackets and tuxedos. That kinky old bald-headed guy likes to wear his tuxedo with a pair of cut off shorts hehe.

StRobert
07-19-22, 06:32
Hi all,

Wondering if there is a dress code in the HK club like it is in most US strip Joints. Would hate to go across and find out that I need cloths that I am not planning to take with.

Thanks.The dress code is color green (a lot of green dollars in the wallet) There is no dress code, in the summer I'm in short pants, aloha or no aloha shirt and sneakers. Baseball cap ok.

LightMan1988
07-19-22, 07:18
Hi all,

Wondering if there is a dress code in the HK club like it is in most US strip Joints. Would hate to go across and find out that I need cloths that I am not planning to take with.

Thanks.So yes you need green but when you leave the club to go up to Cascadas, you will have a nice pretty lady by your side. Keeping is classy is not a bad idea IMHO.

TomJackin
07-19-22, 07:49
The Mexican cops shook us for some cash or threatened to deport us. Cost me 20 dollars to get a special permit.Where were the Mexican cops located? Are you talking about inside immigration? Was the permit the FMM?

LightMan1988
07-19-22, 15:27
Where were the Mexican cops located? Are you talking about inside immigration? Was the permit the FMM?So bro I used the walkway. So us side they don't care when you leave. On Mexican side the moment you pass the bag scanner is where they stopped me. They stopped two other black guys as well.

BrotherMouzone
07-19-22, 15:53
Hi all,

Wondering if there is a dress code in the HK club like it is in most US strip Joints. Would hate to go across and find out that I need cloths that I am not planning to take with.

Thanks.LOL no. Just wear what you're most comfortable with. I've hit those clubs multiple times with a tank top shirt, gym shorts, and flip flops and there was never an issue. Mexico in general is more relaxed with their "dress codes" though again, there isn't one here. Just wouldn't do anything super crazy like try to come in shirtless or completely disheveled. Only thing I'll say as far as dressing up is there are certain girls who will be more likely to approach you if you're dressed a bit more nicely. But at the end of the day all they care about is your cash not how you're dressed.

BrotherMouzone
07-19-22, 16:12
This report is from March trip to San Diego. I was there for work. I had sometime on hand. Given that I have an old friend there who knows the lay of the land, I decided to cross the border. Used the walkway to cross with car parked on the right side of the border. Always sketchy this area. Recommend having a Spanish speaking wing man. Walkway cross was easy. The Mexican cops shook us for some cash or threatened to deport us. Cost me 20 dollars to get a special permit. 7 dollars for taxi 100 dollars for pussy 30 dollars for the room. Shaving cream show is always awesome.Was in San Diego this past April for work, went back again in May for vacation and crossed over to Tijuana both times. Have gone to Tijuana dozens of times over the past 10+ years knowing very, very little Spanish and have gotten by perfectly fine. Filling out the FMM online and printing out beforehand greatly reduces the chances of Mexican customs officials shaking you up for cash in my experience (assuming you're referring to the Mexican customs at the border cross and not actual Mexican policia). I've personally never been hit up for bribes by customs with the exception of twice a couple years ago when I tried to cross with a recently expired passport (which in my opinion made me fair game to extort LOL).

I'm sort of done paying $6-7 for a taxi. If I can't get a taxi and it's not too late I just take the taxi vans they have on the left once you cross the border to Revolucion and then walk the rest of the way to Zona Norte (about 5 minutes). Only 75 cents for those vans though not sure if the price for those has gone up in the past couple of months with inflation.

AmorPorFavor
07-19-22, 16:47
Hi all,

Wondering if there is a dress code in the HK club like it is in most US strip Joints. Would hate to go across and find out that I need cloths that I am not planning to take with.

Thanks.Yes, make sure to wear loose fitting pants so the chicas can get a good grip on your cock.

SmallWeinerGuy
07-19-22, 16:59
So bro I used the walkway. So us side they don't care when you leave. On Mexican side the moment you pass the bag scanner is where they stopped me. They stopped two other black guys as well.What time did you cross?

If you cross on a Friday night dressed like a frat guy at a kegger they will probably pester you to buy the FMM. I usually cross on a weekday in the morning / afternoon and never get hassled.

LightMan1988
07-19-22, 17:18
Was in San Diego this past April for work, went back again in May for vacation and crossed over to Tijuana both times. Have gone to Tijuana dozens of times over the past 10+ years knowing very, very little Spanish and have gotten by perfectly fine. Filling out the FMM online and printing out beforehand greatly reduces the chances of Mexican customs officials shaking you up for cash in my experience (assuming you're referring to the Mexican customs at the border cross and not actual Mexican policia). I've personally never been hit up for bribes by customs with the exception of twice a couple years ago when I tried to cross with a recently expired passport (which in my opinion made me fair game to extort LOL).

I'm sort of done paying $6-7 for a taxi. If I can't get a taxi and it's not too late I just take the taxi vans they have on the left once you cross the border to Revolucion and then walk the rest of the way to Zona Norte (about 5 minutes). Only 75 cents for those vans though not sure if the price for those has gone up in the past couple of months with inflation.At Mouzone, yes Mexican customs at the border. What is FMM?

Captain Solo
07-19-22, 17:41
Amor gets the right idea.

Some girls have the softest butts, but tight jeans will get your balls crushed with the lap dances.

Wear loose, flexible, easy to unzip pants for maximum mileage.

Sol12
07-19-22, 19:37
Hi all,

Wondering if there is a dress code in the HK club like it is in most US strip Joints. Would hate to go across and find out that I need cloths that I am not planning to take with.

Thanks.As others have stated they don't care what you wear but do try and have some respect for how you look. Just because you are paying for a girl to be with you she doesn't want to be with a slob.

Also if your not familiar with Mexico it is rare to see males wearing shorts, the younger generation might carry on this tradition less but to go to an establishment in shorts is rare. I'm sure most tourists like wearing shorts for comfort and the easy access when sitting with a girl. Also if you go in the afternoon you will see more guys in shorts but at night you will really stick out.

Hargow20
07-19-22, 20:54
Shirt & shoes is probably the only requirement.


Yes, make sure to wear loose fitting pants so the chicas can get a good grip on your cock.

Dogers69
07-20-22, 02:40
Shirt & shoes is probably the only requirement.There was a football or basketball player who said he goes in thin exercise pants thin nylons so the girls can feel him, but that was USA strip clubs. I also did it once because I used to wear those for a leg injury. The girls will keep looking to see if you whipped it out, one girl was convinced I exploded because she could feel heat. But I didn't. Only problem with this is being patted down by HK security. And you can't get up if you get turned on.

Hadez
07-20-22, 02:44
I see dudes in basketball shorts and t-shirts. Think the only thing they care about is money.

I typically do not wear my best cloths but decent shorts and semi nice shirt is my attire. I have been known to wear decent tshirts time to time.

Wear your Monger Outfit man.

Lefeu
07-20-22, 03:02
I was in San Diego last week, visiting friends. Usually, I split my trip in half, the first half dedicated to mongering and the 2nd half dedicated to my buddies in San Diego. This time it did not work that way. When I was doing my reservation, I was shocked to look at the hotel prices, too high IMO. I complained to one of my buddies about these hotel prices. First, he informed me that these prices are typical in the summer, but then he invited me to stay with him. His family was away overseas. I could not turned down this offer. However, he is not a monger. He had all these plans for me while I was in San Diego, and I had other plans.

Among my buddies in San Diego, only one is an enthusiastic monger, and he was encouraging me to follow my alternate plan. He has a day job, and prefer to hit Tijuana after work. I tried to balance my time between my friends and mongering, without divulging too much about my extra activities. This resulted into late night visits to Tijuana, or quick day time visits. My buddy drove on some occasions, and I took the trolley at other times.

I managed to visit Tijuana five times, and do 5 sessions, most of them a bit hurried unfortunately. As a result, I did not have enough time to check out the street girls, and bypassed them in favor of the Hong Kong club girls. Somehow, every girl wanted $100 for the session and I did not negotiate much. I also paid $30 for the room, which included 2 small beer bottles.

My favorite girl was Akni whom I met on Friday night. She was a spinner with a slim body, in a small frame. She was very friendly, who offered anal during warm up. I ended up having a nice session with her. It helped that she was constantly smiling during the session.

Next was Levi, who was also a sexy spinner with an attitude. She was sitting at one of the counters and her attitude was in full display. She was still a big turn on. I noticed mongers approaching her and soon departing. I became curious and went to check her out. It turned out she was quite high, and looked somehow absent from the scene. I liked her enough to take a gamble on her. I usually skip the drink get together as I don't find them very useful. In the room, she appeared horny as she quickly attacked me. She had toned muscle and a shapely butt. FS was a pleasure with her, as she appeared horny. We smoked a bit together and stank the room.

Next was Diana, a relatively tall girl with a nice, slim body. I enjoyed sex with her so much that the poor girl was surprised at my intensity. I was banging away until we heard the knock on the door, signaling the end of the session. I don't remember much about the other girls.

DonCarlos1234
07-20-22, 04:50
There are ways to minimize risk.

Honestly even the Tijuana beach looked pretty rough. The girl was loving it but it was probably the most rough looking beach I have spent the night in. With that said the people I did interact with were cool and friendly.

The girls in this country are amazing. I am going to enjoy the current GFE as long as she allows and who knows what is next.

Of all the places / beaches in MX, Tijuana is the bottom of the heap. Try Rosario and go to LOS Pelicanos for dinner or a place to stay. Or go further southbound to Puerto Nuevo next time and enjoy.

Hadez
07-20-22, 07:52
I will definitely do it better next time. As fun as this girl was once she got to me it is really challenging to make plans with her.

Using the same tools I used before I have found several places cheap and as good or better in areas you mentioned.

That trip was fun.


Of all the places / beaches in MX, Tijuana is the bottom of the heap. Try Rosario and go to LOS Pelicanos for dinner or a place to stay. Or go further southbound to Puerto Nuevo next time and enjoy.

DesertHot
07-20-22, 18:29
Folks,

My buddy and I are planning for a day trip to Tijuana and having a room will be nice, we are wondering if Cascadas allows for having two registered guests for a room? Thanks.

Buckster23
07-20-22, 19:27
Are there any other hotels nearby besides cascadas that I can take Hong Kong girls to? I am trying to avoid the meseros bothering us for a bucket of beers if she stays longer.

Dogers69
07-20-22, 21:21
Of all the places / beaches in MX, Tijuana is the bottom of the heap. Try Rosario and go to LOS Pelicanos for dinner or a place to stay. Or go further southbound to Puerto Nuevo next time and enjoy.Last week it was in the news Tijuana banned walking on the beach never mind going into the water due to "the sand absorbing all our sewage". From what I've read Mexico won't do anything about dumping raw sewage into the ocean, wnd at some point the hope is usa gets the funding to build a plant near the border so we can import some of their sewage and filter it. Look at the population growth of Tijuana. Any treatment plant is likely 15 years away, and even then not expected to handle all there sewage, and Tijuana population in 15 years probably increases by 30 to 40%. At some point you won't even be able to go in the San Diego ocean because the sewage has already ruined Coronado. Once it moves up 4 miles it will wipe out ocean beach mission beach and pacific beach. A lot people live in San Diego specifically for the ocean so a lot people will end up moving out of San Diego at some point.

Azfriole
07-21-22, 03:07
Are there any other hotels nearby besides cascadas that I can take Hong Kong girls to? I am trying to avoid the meseros bothering us for a bucket of beers if she stays longer.Hotel Rizo across the street. You can take HK girls there. I've heard of Maseros going over there as well with a bucket of beers.

To be honest I've yet had a masero show up at door pushing for a bucket to be bought. I never go over an hour thou.

BrotherMouzone
07-21-22, 03:22
At Mouzone, yes Mexican customs at the border. What is FMM?FMM is the temporary tourist "visa" card that you're supposed to have and carry with you while you're in Mexico. It's a white card with some green and red coloring on it. I'm assuming it's the "special permit" you mentioned in a previous post that you were forced to pay $20 for. In theory, if you're staying in Mexico for a week or less, FMM cards are supposed to be free. When you get to the border the Mexican customs official fills it out using your passport and other information, stamps it, and then you're on your way into Mexico. But there's been a years-long practice (that's gotten worse in recent years, especially since COVID) where customs officials pressure tourists into paying $20 (less frequently $30 or even more) for the FMM (which again is supposed to be free if staying 7 days or less). The threat is either pay or you're not getting into Mexico and probably works for them a very high percentage of the time.

The customs officials like to prey on folks who they think are probably inexperienced tourists (e. G. , gringos and young adults who look like they're on their way to nightclubs / bars). IMO, an effective way around this is to simply complete the FMM form online, print it out, and bring it with you when you go through customs. Filling it out online gives the customs officials the impression that you're a more experienced traveler who kind of knows his way around the customs forms (since you were knowledgeable enough to find and complete the form online) and IMO makes it a lot less likely they'll try to shake you up for some cash. In my dozens of times crossing the border to Tijuana over 10+ years I've not once had to pay anything when I've crossed with a valid passport and a printed FMM from online.

The FMM website is here: https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html.

You can read / listen to a local San Diego TV news story about customs officials extorting American college tourists for cash here: https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/students-charged-for-free-travel-form-in-tijuana/509-6cb5ab10-670c-43ac-a411-a76d7b108128.

The one thing that concerns me is in an earlier post you said you were stopped by "Mexican cops" once you passed the "bag scanner". In that area, all you have are the armed Mexican guards. The Mexican customs officials area is before you get to the bag scanner and is where you show your passport. Was it one of those armed guards that shook you down for $20? If so, I find that a bit concerning, though if a customs official had already given you an FMM card I don't see how they could force you to get another "special permit".

Hadez
07-21-22, 03:42
There were lot of people on the beach. Lots of bon fires. I would guess 30 ish people in 4-5 different groups.

The girl I was with did not want to go to beach. Never showed any interest. I been to beaches all over the world and everything I wanted was in the apartment. I am glad she did not want to go. Beach bon fires usually involve booze and fights of some kind.

I do know they close the beach by LAX all the time due to raw sewage in the ocean. It is not exclusively an Mexico problem.


Last week it was in the news Tijuana banned walking on the beach never mind going into the water due to "the sand absorbing all our sewage". From what I've read Mexico won't do anything about dumping raw sewage into the ocean, wnd at some point the hope is usa gets the funding to build a plant near the border so we can import some of their sewage and filter it. Look at the population growth of Tijuana. Any treatment plant is likely 15 years away, and even then not expected to handle all there sewage, and Tijuana population in 15 years probably increases by 30 to 40%. At some point you won't even be able to go in the San Diego ocean because the sewage has already ruined Coronado. Once it moves up 4 miles it will wipe out ocean beach mission beach and pacific beach. A lot people live in San Diego specifically for the ocean so a lot people will end up moving out of San Diego at some point.

Hadez
07-21-22, 03:46
I am fairly certain this is started by the girl at this point. It may also be the club. Had a girl in my room over 3 hours no knock. Another girl over 2 hours no knock. On another visit the girl that was previously there 3 hours had to go to see her friend and shy of 2 hours a knock came when she had to leave.

It may also be the club but I got a feeling the girls trying to make money and do not want to be the "bad person" by saying they want to leave.


Are there any other hotels nearby besides cascadas that I can take Hong Kong girls to? I am trying to avoid the meseros bothering us for a bucket of beers if she stays longer.

LightMan1988
07-21-22, 05:42
FMM is the temporary tourist "visa" card that you're supposed to have and carry with you while you're in Mexico. It's a white card with some green and red coloring on it. I'm assuming it's the "special permit" you mentioned in a previous post that you were forced to pay $20 for. In theory, if you're staying in Mexico for a week or less, FMM cards are supposed to be free. When you get to the border the Mexican customs official fills it out using your passport and other information, stamps it, and then you're on your way into Mexico. But there's been a years-long practice (that's gotten worse in recent years, especially since COVID) where customs officials pressure tourists into paying $20 (less frequently $30 or even more) for the FMM (which again is supposed to be free if staying 7 days or less). The threat is either pay or you're not getting into Mexico and probably works for them a very high percentage of the time.

The customs officials like to prey on folks who they think are probably inexperienced tourists (e. G. , gringos and young adults who look like they're on their way to nightclubs / bars). IMO, an effective way around this is to simply complete the FMM form online, print it out, and bring it with you when you go through customs. Filling it out online gives the customs officials the impression that you're a more experienced traveler who kind of knows his way around the customs forms (since you were knowledgeable enough to find and complete the form online) and IMO makes it a lot less likely they'll try to shake you up for some cash. In my dozens of times crossing the border to Tijuana over 10+ years I've not once had to pay anything when I've crossed with a valid passport and a printed FMM from online.

The FMM website is here: https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html.

You can read / listen to a local San Diego TV news story about customs officials extorting American college tourists for cash here: https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/students-charged-for-free-travel-form-in-tijuana/509-6cb5ab10-670c-43ac-a411-a76d7b108128.

The one thing that concerns me is in an earlier post you said you were stopped by "Mexican cops" once you passed the "bag scanner". In that area, all you have are the armed Mexican guards. The Mexican customs officials area is before you get to the bag scanner and is where you show your passport. Was it one of those armed guards that shook you down for $20? If so, I find that a bit concerning, though if a customs official had already given you an FMM card I don't see how they could force you to get another "special permit".Dear Bro, thank you for this reply. I can indeed confirm, me and my friend along with two other AA dudes were stopped after the scanner area for 20 Bucks a pop. We were taken inside an office and our passports taken from us. The AA dudes were first up and one of them was acting like a wise guy. He was straight up told he is being deported. Then he begs and gets his PP back and 20 bucks lighter is on the way. We are ready to oblige after that scene. Will try to print it out next time and see how that goes.

Rambo1969
07-21-22, 07:06
Folks,

My buddy and I are planning for a day trip to Tijuana and having a room will be nice, we are wondering if Cascadas allows for having two registered guests for a room? Thanks.Easiest thing is for you and your buddy to share a double room.

Many people do this.

ABAJoeSmith123
07-21-22, 07:28
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?

Azfriole
07-21-22, 16:16
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?The fact you have to ask should be your first clue. 4 K damn bro!

Dogers69
07-21-22, 16:30
Dear Bro, thank you for this reply. I can indeed confirm, me and my friend along with two other AA dudes were stopped after the scanner area for 20 Bucks a pop. We were taken inside an office and our passports taken from us. The AA dudes were first up and one of them was acting like a wise guy. He was straight up told he is being deported. Then he begs and gets his PP back and 20 bucks lighter is on the way. We are ready to oblige after that scene. Will try to print it out next time and see how that goes.Yes the Mexican border patrol has hawk eyes for AA guys and white guys. I go through 5 days week in Mexican line I'm always the only guy they stop to see my 6 month pass. I'm actually not gonna pay for it anymore I've only seen a gringo line once in last 50 walks over the border. Anyway since you detailed it, further advice is to not walk over with your friends if you want less hassles. Just spread out 2 minutes.

AmorPorFavor
07-21-22, 16:44
Last week it was in the news Tijuana banned walking on the beach never mind going into the water due to "the sand absorbing all our sewage". From what I've read Mexico won't do anything about dumping raw sewage into the ocean, wnd at some point the hope is usa gets the funding to build a plant near the border so we can import some of their sewage and filter it. Look at the population growth of Tijuana. Any treatment plant is likely 15 years away, and even then not expected to handle all there sewage, and Tijuana population in 15 years probably increases by 30 to 40%. At some point you won't even be able to go in the San Diego ocean because the sewage has already ruined Coronado. Once it moves up 4 miles it will wipe out ocean beach mission beach and pacific beach. A lot people live in San Diego specifically for the ocean so a lot people will end up moving out of San Diego at some point.The prevailing currents carry the sewage north and it is worse in the summer with the south swells. Imperial Beach has always had terrible sewage problems. The Mexicans are betting that the US will eventually build them a sewage plant. There has been a lot of talk about it, I'm not sure of the status now.

LuvMexicanas
07-21-22, 17:18
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?Zero. I think you can answer your own question.

El Guerito
07-21-22, 17:23
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?In general, I ignore or deny all requests for money from all bar girls. There have only been three exceptions to this rule for me over the last 10 years.

1. I have one chica that I've known and have seen regularly for several years. She knows I say no to money requests, but now I'll give her $50 to $100 from time to time when she asks for it, and she gives me a credit on our next meetup. Once I gave her $200 up front and I eventually got it back in credit, but I won't give her more than $100 ever again. She's the exception though because I've known her so long and she always pays me back in trade.

2. I retired one HK bar girl and I gave her $250 for the first week of our arrangement ($250 per week was what I was giving her to leave the bar) a few days before she retired. This probably wasn't really an advance though because she gave me two toda la noches and bareback once without asking for or receiving any payment from me at the time, before I eventually fronted her the $250.

3. I retired another HK bar girl at one time and she wanted to make sure I was serious about supporting her before she quit the bar. I was living with her at the time, so I trusted her enough that she wouldn't outright rob me and move out the second she got the money. So, I gave her $1,000 and she quit HK that same day. We lived together off and on for about a year after that and I never paid her for anything directly. I just paid for our apartment that we lived in, food, clothes, etc. Normal expenses if you were supporting a regular girlfriend or wife that didn't work. When we eventually broke up, she offered to give me back some of the $1,000 that I gave her, but I told her to just keep it because I knew she was close to broke and had to now return to work.

SeaBeeJoe
07-21-22, 17:43
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?Bro, can you help me out I am a little low on cash?? PT Barum oonce said that a fool and his money are soon parted. I appreciate your honesty but please stop being a fool.

Aviator400
07-21-22, 18:59
Hotel Rizo across the street. You can take HK girls there. I've heard of Maseros going over there as well with a bucket of beers.

To be honest I've yet had a masero show up at door pushing for a bucket to be bought. I never go over an hour thou.

Are there any other hotels nearby besides cascadas that I can take Hong Kong girls to? I am trying to avoid the meseros bothering us for a bucket of beers if she stays longer.Good luck with that. Six years ago when I started mongering the "bucket rule" would be enforced occasionally. Typically I would tell the mesero that I wasn't going to buy any more drinks for the girl, because we are going arriba. He would then push the issue of buying a bucket. And after an hour, would show up at my room asking me to send the girl back to the club or buy a bucket. So the "bucket rule" has been there for some time. I learned not to tell the mesero that I was taking the girl arriba and just walk out with her while he was busy with other clients. That usually worked before the days when the girls had to sign out. The girls are now required to sign out of the club, and security documents the time and your room number. The knock will come at about 55 minutes. The caveat is that the "bucket per hour" rule is not always enforced, which is why some guys say it hasn't happened to them. Yet. However, lately it seems to be that it is enforced frequently. So you can roll the dice and take your chances, or. In the alternative.

Take a street girl or off-duty girl from another club to your room. The "bucket rule" applies only to HK and BT girls. So far.

For my next trip, my plan is to surf the other bars during the early afternoon and see if I can find a BG that will come to my room for an extended period or TLN when her shift is over. Or if I can find an attractive street girl, take her up for an extended period. Note that the street girls tend to be clock-watchers, but they are also much less expensive. I have been getting quotes of $100/ HR for FS. Figure that if you are NOT also making a $50-$100 bucket donation to the hotel / club, that is a good deal for a good time. I have frequently been disappointed with the $20-$40 wham-bam street girls, but I have found if she is willing to go for an hour or more, typically she is more relaxed and I receive satisfying service.

Another alternative is to book escorts at one of the downtown, girl-friendly hotels. Use HK for eye candy and an escort for the main event.

OR invite a HK or BT girl to your downtown hotel before or after her shift.

Please report back with your experience.

FunkyCold88
07-21-22, 19:35
I went down last December for my first time and I'm hoping to go at the end of this year agian. It's sad to hear about the changes that have been happening since then. I'm thinking if I go that I'll probably get a hotel room at Cascadas and then if I have a girl for TLN I'll find a room somewhere else. Really wish I lived closer to Tijuana so I could go more than once a year.

StRobert
07-21-22, 19:54
Folks,

My buddy and I are planning for a day trip to Tijuana and having a room will be nice, we are wondering if Cascadas allows for having two registered guests for a room? Thanks.Rent a double bed room. The room also has a TV, air condition, shower, soaps, shampoos, towels and a fridge with cold drinks (not free) and two keys for the door. If you have a VIP Hong Kong card ($ 60 valid for 3 months) a double bed room on Mondays and Tuesdays only costs $ 27. Also there is a 20% discount at the Azul Restaurant and one free beer every 12 or 24 hours. Link https://hotelcascadas.com/.

Jackie888
07-21-22, 22:40
Last week it was in the news Tijuana banned walking on the beach never mind going into the water due to "the sand absorbing all our sewage". From what I've read Mexico won't do anything about dumping raw sewage into the ocean, wnd at some point the hope is usa gets the funding to build a plant near the border so we can import some of their sewage and filter it. Look at the population growth of Tijuana. Any treatment plant is likely 15 years away, and even then not expected to handle all there sewage, and Tijuana population in 15 years probably increases by 30 to 40%. At some point you won't even be able to go in the San Diego ocean because the sewage has already ruined Coronado. Once it moves up 4 miles it will wipe out ocean beach mission beach and pacific beach. A lot people live in San Diego specifically for the ocean so a lot people will end up moving out of San Diego at some point.Seems like Point Loma because of its shape, keeps polluted waters South and stops it at Coronado for some reason. But it is scary that Tijuana actually gave a public health warning considering that on the way driving to las playas, one can look up and see the shitty shelters on the hills that is sure to become a cemetery if a big rain storm hits Tijuana.

Rambo1969
07-22-22, 00:37
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?NO. You are not the only idiot.

Zona chicas can transform your happiness level in life. So there is no shame in sharing your wealth with them.

We / I spend so much more for other obligatory things, charities, etc.

I plan to give more than $4000 extra to my fav. I have been mulling how to do it but I will do something.

Spending extra time with her over time may be the way I do it. While we have money they have time they can give to us.

SeaBeeJoe
07-22-22, 01:26
NO. You are not the only idiot.

Zona chicas can transform your happiness level in life. So there is no shame in sharing your wealth with them.

We / I spend so much more for other obligatory things, charities, etc.

I plan to give more than $4000 extra to my fav. I have been mulling how to do it but I will do something.

Spending extra time with her over time may be the way I do it. While we have money they have time they can give to us.PT Barum was right. Also "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. " Good luck Rambo I hope you don't go MIA.

BrotherMouzone
07-22-22, 01:41
What's the most amount of money anyone here has given to an HK chica to "help" them out? Be honest. I'm not talking about money to go arriba in the club. I'm talking about money on the side that they have requested to help with their needs / expenses. I'm embarrassed to say I've given one HK chica $4000 up front once. Am I the only idiot?Being completely honest, $0. Most I've charitably provided was $20 in tip right after an arriba session LOL (not requested by chica). To be fair I've only had a couple ask (via text) but I've quickly declined not even considering their request. $4 K is wild, IMO.

Artisttyp
07-22-22, 02:33
I plan to give more than $4000 extra to my fav. I have been mulling how to do it but I will do something.
.I'm sure a few guys on this website would be willing to spread their legs for you for that kind of money.

5' 10" olive complexion 52 yr old MILF. Have experience will travel to most hotels in Centro.

Sifu Monger
07-22-22, 03:14
Interesting discussion about whether giving money to BG is okay. I think the answer is it depends on your financial situation. Having a net worth of a few million dollars. Giving out $4 k is nothing compared to someone only 6-figure net worth.

There are many ways to be generous. I rather help 100 kids from underdeveloped countries dealing with poverty and famine than HK girls craving for materialistic stuffs. There are always exceptions though. So, again, it depends.

SeaBeeJoe
07-22-22, 03:24
I'm sure a few guys on this website would be willing to spread their legs for you for that kind of money.

5' 10" olive complexion 52 yr old MILF. Have experience will travel to most hotels in Centro.LOL! Have cash will travel email seabeejoe!!

Phordphan
07-22-22, 04:02
Being completely honest, $0. Most I've charitably provided was $20 in tip right after an arriba session LOL (not requested by chica). To be fair I've only had a couple ask (via text) but I've quickly declined not even considering their request. $4 K is wild, IMO.I don't know if $4 K qualifies as wild. It's a whopping $200 in real money.

Jackie888
07-22-22, 06:15
NO. You are not the only idiot.

Zona chicas can transform your happiness level in life. So there is no shame in sharing your wealth with them.

We / I spend so much more for other obligatory things, charities, etc.

I plan to give more than $4000 extra to my fav. I have been mulling how to do it but I will do something.

Spending extra time with her over time may be the way I do it. While we have money they have time they can give to us.How much were those Covid stimulus checks? I gave mine away to help two chicas. Why? Because they needed it and I didn't. My employment was unaffected, my savings actually increased because I didn't blow as much of my entertainment money in the Zona Norte during the Pandemic as I normally do. I was financially stable. And they were not. No regrets because looking back with hindsight, there was nothing that I was not able to spend my money on that I could not because I gave my stimulus check away.

Oh yeah, I also spread the check out over the 12 months or so of the Covid. I was not under any illusions that the chicas is any good at money management.

TomJackin
07-22-22, 07:09
I plan to give more than $4000 extra to my fav. I have been mulling how to do it but I will do something.For that much money, I would touch your weiner several times.

Nothing24
07-22-22, 08:17
I wouldn't even give them 4,000 pesos let alone dollars LOL. But that's just me and I'm admittedly frugal most of the time, with few exceptions. Only time I ever gave a bar girl money was basically just an advance of $100. I wrote about it on here like a month ago. My current favorite HK chica asked for me to send her $100 via Western Union because her daughter was sick and wanted to get her some treatment. She said in exchange our next meet up would be free of charge, which it was, the very next day. Only reason I did it was because I knew her fairly well and she always goes the extra mile with me.

If any other bar girl would hit me up for money I would just say "sorry, no dinero".

I even had a friend of my ex girlfriend (civilian girl) ask once while we were together for me to “lend” her some money in basically a tit for tat situation behind my girls back. She had always been flirty with me but we had never done anything. One time I thought I was about to get a threesome with her and my girl but my girl got cold feet and didnt want to cross that line with her friend. While it was tempting to help her out and get some side action, I had to decline because I knew if I gave in, it would be a never ending cycle. She even broke down and started crying saying she really needed a man to help her out because her man was locked up at the time. I felt sympathetic towards her but I stood my ground. A couple weeks later we had a long talk where she apologized for approaching me like that. I told her no worries and that I had enough on my plate with my ex at the time lol.

DonCarlos1234
07-22-22, 10:27
Seems like Point Loma because of its shape, keeps polluted waters South and stops it at Coronado for some reason. But it is scary that Tijuana actually gave a public health warning considering that on the way driving to las playas, one can look up and see the shitty shelters on the hills that is sure to become a cemetery if a big rain storm hits Tijuana.I have dodged mudslides driving past / thru the asshole of Tijuana (el centro) from Tijuana "beach" . There were no shacks or houses or people in the mud. But yeah, it could happen. The USA has already built a treatment plant. Probably another in the future. The price we pay for all that cheap labor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boundary_Wastewater_Treatment_Plant See you all in 10 days, Monday & Tuesday hktj.

TjBrazil
07-22-22, 12:14
I would never do western union. You open that Pandora's box and it will never end. I had a girl from Colombia try to get me to send her a gift for her mom's birthday. Than it was an iPhone because she had to sell her phone for money. I deleted her. 4 k is crazy. That's a years rent for them. You were a sucker don't make excuses. The amount of times someone will get sick in a hookers life that they will need money for is endless. It's like all the times I needed money for the arcade in the 80's. LOL.

LuvMexicanas
07-22-22, 13:38
Don't be one and even if you are you're not even the only one.

BrotherMouzone
07-22-22, 15:04
I don't know if $4 K qualifies as wild. It's a whopping $200 in real money.Well I'd assumed $4 K meant $4 K in US dollars. If we're talking pesos then yeah not nearly as bad. At the end of the day the man can do what he wants with his money but some of the dudes on here should maybe think about what they're doing handing off sums of money like that to chicas you really barely even know.

DGoodLife
07-22-22, 16:25
NO. You are not the only idiot.

Zona chicas can transform your happiness level in life. So there is no shame in sharing your wealth with them.

We / I spend so much more for other obligatory things, charities, etc.

I plan to give more than $4000 extra to my fav. I have been mulling how to do it but I will do something.

Spending extra time with her over time may be the way I do it. While we have money they have time they can give to us.As the Thai say "Up to you". Which has a double meaning. In this instance this is a true statement.

Its not my money an it does not impact me directly (maybe indirectly) so up to you. . also up to you means don't be stupid and under any illusion of what it means to her, just means more expectation form her so if the day come that you do not meat those higher expectations you set you may actually get less bang for your buck sort of speak.

So all mongers do what you want with your money. But know the game on both sides and accept the outcome.

I am liberal with money when I go mongering no doubt about that. I am there to have a good time and I work hard to do so but I do not sponsor chikas in any country. I will give them what I think is generous and it has worked for me so ill keep my same MO, sometimes I don't visit a country for 2-3 years but the time and money I spent and good will usually provides me with recognition form people I have crossed paths with and this goes with meseros, severs, hotel clerks, and the girls. I am no illusion they see a payday when I come but as long as I don't feel slighted or cheated then I don't mind spending. Shit I bought Ice Cream for a a whole school because I dated a teacher at said school. Ha ha. Why because it feels good that I can (something I didn't have as a kid).

Ok well that's all I have.

DGL.

SeaBeeJoe
07-22-22, 17:52
Don't be one and even if you are you're not even the only one.I agree 100 percent!! Yes I was one of those fools before it nevwr works out! Just pay a chica directly for services and stay strong. They are master manipulators if you let them. Don't pay too much either the currently prices are posted here on the forums read and learn!!

Dogers69
07-22-22, 18:11
Well I'd assumed $4 K meant $4 K in US dollars. If we're talking pesos then yeah not nearly as bad. At the end of the day the man can do what he wants with his money but some of the dudes on here should maybe think about what they're doing handing off sums of money like that to chicas you really barely even know.I'm sure its 4 k in dollars. And I bet there's girls being sent much more everyday. You guys are forgetting how happy giving $ to woman makes some guys. And also underestimating how much $ guys are making. There's dudes in HK every night worth 3, 4, 5 million, making 2 k a day from work or investments. The big guy making it rain he must be pulling in 20 k a day to piss money away like he does. There's so much bogus fraud money handed out by the USA government to contracters. Where would we begin.

Aviator400
07-22-22, 21:29
About a year ago I had a chica / puta that I had known and sessioned with over the course of a few years ask for money. She said her brother was killed in an auto accident and asked for $1000 US to take care of funeral expenses. I knew that he was her only sibling and that her parents had passed. I didn't know much else about her family or personal life then, but I liked her a lot as she is very sweet. OTOH, having read this forum for a few years, the general advice is never send these girls money under any circumstances. So I told her that I was very sorry for her loss, but I cannot send her any money. I still see and session with her almost every visit to Tijuana. The subject of the brother never came up, so I don't know the situation. I do know that at the time she had an abusive boyfriend, so I suspect that he was demanding more money than she could get working in the club. Not long after that, the boyfriend beat her so bad that she was hospitalized. That I know to be true, because she sent me pictures of her injuries and the hospital statement. She did not ask for any money. She finally dumped the boyfriend. Don't know why it took her so long, but she has been abused since childhood and typically these abusers use the emotional needs of these girls to manipulate them. Anyway, I once gave her a $300 tip over and above the agreed $400 TLN in part because she was having a tough time and it was her birthday.

She and others always seem to be broke. If she makes half the money she claims and manages it responsibly, she should never be hungry or without rent, but she always seems to be on the financial edge. I have spoken to her about having an emergency fund and putting aside a percentage of her earnings. She says she has learned the lesson by being on the edge too many times having to borrow money to address medical issues, and was putting aside money. Claimed to be making several hundred dollars a day, including a client that paid for her to be with him for four hours. A few days later, she was complaining that she did not have the money for one of her critical medications.

So the point of all of this is that even the mid-level girls should be making enough money to live a decent life. Indeed, they make a lot more money than the average Mexican worker. My view is that their bad management and poor judgement is not my problem.

Dogers69
07-22-22, 21:50
How much were those Covid stimulus checks? I gave mine away to help two chicas. Why? Because they needed it and I didn't. My employment was unaffected, my savings actually increased because I didn't blow as much of my entertainment money in the Zona Norte during the Pandemic as I normally do. I was financially stable. And they were not. No regrets because looking back with hindsight, there was nothing that I was not able to spend my money on that I could not because I gave my stimulus check away.

Oh yeah, I also spread the check out over the 12 months or so of the Covid. I was not under any illusions that the chicas is any good at money management.Yeah when trumps stimulus checks came out, word spread in Mexico before the $ hit our bank accounts. All at once I was getting asked for $$at same time from girls who I didn't even talk to any more. At the time I was poor but had no debt and didn't really feel poor as everything cost 25 to 35% less than today. So I sent my stimulus checks to Mexican girls I had dated in Mexico, not working girls. And Mexican girls in San Diego who didn't qualify for unemployment due to using borrowed ss numbers. It just made me feel guilty to have this $ knowing all these other people were desperate.

KetoAndKettle
07-22-22, 22:53
Defender, Galaga, Joust, Donkey fucking Kong, Dig Dug. Good shit, good memories.


I would never do western union. You open that Pandora's box and it will never end. I had a girl from Colombia try to get me to send her a gift for her mom's birthday. Than it was an iPhone because she had to sell her phone for money. I deleted her. 4 k is crazy. That's a years rent for them. You were a sucker don't make excuses. The amount of times someone will get sick in a hookers life that they will need money for is endless. It's like all the times I needed money for the arcade in the 80's. LOL.

Hargow20
07-22-22, 23:18
Giving girls that kind of money is foolish. Just remember all the working girls care about is money. Years ago I this one WSW said she needed $10 & said she would be back. A few minutes later she walks off and complains that I am following her. Other times girls will say they need more money. Yesterday I saw this one SW in the Zona and she wanted the money up front. She refused I told her I would pay half up front. If the girls want more money than let them work for it.


About a year ago I had a chica / puta that I had known and sessioned with over the course of a few years ask for money. She said her brother was killed in an auto accident and asked for $1000 US to take care of funeral expenses. I knew that he was her only sibling and that her parents had passed. I didn't know much else about her family or personal life then, but I liked her a lot as she is very sweet. OTOH, having read this forum for a few years, the general advice is never send these girls money under any circumstances. So I told her that I was very sorry for her loss, but I cannot send her any money. I still see and session with her almost every visit to Tijuana. The subject of the brother never came up, so I don't know the situation. I do know that at the time she had an abusive boyfriend, so I suspect that he was demanding more money than she could get working in the club. Not long after that, the boyfriend beat her so bad that she was hospitalized. That I know to be true, because she sent me pictures of her injuries and the hospital statement. She did not ask for any money. She finally dumped the boyfriend. Don't know why it took her so long, but she has been abused since childhood and typically these abusers use the emotional needs of these girls to manipulate them. Anyway, I once gave her a $300 tip over and above the agreed $400 TLN in part because she was having a tough time and it was her birthday.

She and others always seem to be broke. If she makes half the money she claims and manages it responsibly, she should never be hungry or without rent, but she always seems to be on the financial edge. I have spoken to her about having an emergency fund and putting aside a percentage of her earnings. She says she has learned the lesson by being on the edge too many times having to borrow money to address medical issues, and was putting aside money. Claimed to be making several hundred dollars a day, including a client that paid for her to be with him for four hours. A few days later, she was complaining that she did not have the money for one of her critical medications.

So the point of all of this is that even the mid-level girls should be making enough money to live a decent life. Indeed, they make a lot more money than the average Mexican worker. My view is that their bad management and poor judgement is not my problem.

Rainman306
07-23-22, 04:57
A few years back I sent a stripper money for the first time ever and it actually yielded good results for awhile. This was a special case where I actually did "owe" her the money for doing extras for an agreed price, but she let me pay after but when she went to the bathroom right after I left. Maybe I was nervous about doing the extras or just had second thoughts about hanging over several hundred dollars.

Anyway I sent her money until my "debt" was repaid and then still some more, but probably less than $1,000 total. She was a really hot stripper, just ditzy and the type to burn bridges. She was half Mexican too. We hung out off and on for a couple years, even got access to her phone.

Another dancer I helped with money to get back home from an ill planned trip ended up giving me cheap private VIPs at her house.

I've never given more than a couple hundred in a shot and usually less than 100. Must have had 30-40 dancers ask me for money only ever sent to a handful.

In general, I would say never do it, but I've had some good experiences.

In all cases, I had constant back & forth communication for at least a day to see if they really needed it.

Artisttyp
07-23-22, 05:32
I think we should pool all this disposable income together and start a hedge fund. Maybe the good Captain will agree to manage it for us.

LuvMexicanas
07-23-22, 15:43
I agree 100 percent!! Yes I was one of those fools before it nevwr works out! Just pay a chica directly for services and stay strong. They are master manipulators if you let them. Don't pay too much either the currently prices are posted here on the forums read and learn!!Exactamente. I will say it again for those whose judgement is easily clouded: with regard to putas, fuck them, pay them and say adios in that order. Do not delude yourself that there's some Pretty Woman ending. There ain't but of course some simp will reply with some fairytale ending for them or someone they know.

BrotherMouzone
07-23-22, 19:24
Bro, can you help me out I am a little low on cash?? PT Barum oonce said that a fool and his money are soon parted. I appreciate your honesty but please stop being a fool.I was literally just about to post this same quote ("a fool and his money are soon parted") until I saw your post just a minute ago, LOL.


I'm sure its 4 k in dollars. And I bet there's girls being sent much more everyday. You guys are forgetting how happy giving $ to woman makes some guys. And also underestimating how much $ guys are making. There's dudes in HK every night worth 3, 4, 5 million, making 2 k a day from work or investments. The big guy making it rain he must be pulling in 20 k a day to piss money away like he does. There's so much bogus fraud money handed out by the USA government to contracters. Where would we begin.OK but $1 K, $4 K, or whatever is still insane, IMO. There's a line that pops up from time to time in rap lyrics - "it ain't trickin' if you got it". Maybe those lyrics apply here in some cases. If dudes are making millions and can afford to dump those sums of $$$ on these chicas then whatever, but at least generally speaking I doubt the guys on here posting about the huge sums of money they donate to these chicas are multi-millionaires.

But with all that said again, dudes are free to do whatever with their $$$ that they damn well please. At the end of the day it's none of my business. But that could NEVER be me. The day I EVER felt the need to donate large sums of $$$ to these chicas like that would be the day I need to permanently exit the "mongering" business LOL.

SeaBeeJoe
07-23-22, 20:00
I was literally just about to post this same quote ("a fool and his money are soon parted") until I saw your post just a minute ago, LOL.

OK but $1 K, $4 K, or whatever is still insane, IMO. There's a line that pops up from time to time in rap lyrics - "it ain't trickin' if you got it". Maybe those lyrics apply here in some cases. If dudes are making millions and can afford to dump those sums of $$$ on these chicas then whatever, but at least generally speaking I doubt the guys on here posting about the huge sums of money they donate to these chicas are multi-millionaires.

But with all that said again, dudes are free to do whatever with their $$$ that they damn well please. At the end of the day it's none of my business. But that could NEVER be me. The day I EVER felt the need to donate large sums of $$$ to these chicas like that would be the day I need to permanently exit the "mongering" business LOL.I donate them my hard cock and plentiful cum for theor faces and pussies.

Balzac
07-23-22, 21:01
A few years back I sent a stripper money for the first time ever and it actually yielded good results for awhile. This was a special case where I actually did "owe" her the money for doing extras for an agreed price, but she let me pay after but when she went to the bathroom right after I left. Maybe I was nervous about doing the extras or just had second thoughts about hanging over several hundred dollars.

Anyway I sent her money until my "debt" was repaid and then still some more, but probably less than $1,000 total. She was a really hot stripper, just ditzy and the type to burn bridges. She was half Mexican too. We hung out off and on for a couple years, even got access to her phone.

Another dancer I helped with money to get back home from an ill planned trip ended up giving me cheap private VIPs at her house.

I've never given more than a couple hundred in a shot and usually less than 100. Must have had 30-40 dancers ask me for money only ever sent to a handful.

In general, I would say never do it, but I've had some good experiences.

In all cases, I had constant back & forth communication for at least a day to see if they really needed it.I wouldn't do it cause is a never ending problem and nothing good would come out of it!

TjBrazil
07-23-22, 23:54
Defender, Galaga, Joust, Donkey fucking Kong, Dig Dug. Good shit, good memories.You forgot the most addicting one: Dragons Lair. Way ahead of it's time.

Rainman306
07-24-22, 01:13
I've never sent money to a stripper that I didn't both have.

1. There phone number.

2. A real Facebook account.

Then once they ask its usually constant back & forth communication for the better part of at least a day. I think the few I sent were convinced I would not until I did.

Generally, you should always request to see them in person whenever they ask for money. It can be a good chance to break the "outside the club barrier. ". If it's not practical at the moment, request to do so later.

It's very important to make it difficult for her. Some girls be asking 10-20+ guys for money for whatever reason, she will soon lose interest in you if your making it hard on her. Because my first scenario I actually did owe the girl and got good results I've been willing to do so from time to time for the right girl in the right situation.

Nothing24
07-24-22, 06:44
Anyone been down to the club the last couple of days? Wonder if there's a noticeable increase in foot traffic because of comic con. I will most likely be heading down tomorrow night.

Dogers69
07-24-22, 15:55
Anyone been down to the club the last couple of days? Wonder if there's a noticeable increase in foot traffic because of comic con. I will most likely be heading down tomorrow night.LOL comic con crowd doesn't have sex. I can spot a comic con tourist from 300 feet away in San Diego versus a San Diego dude. The see omic con crowd goes back to their hotel and whatever restaurant is within 2 block of their hotel.

LightMan1988
07-24-22, 17:24
So If I stay in Cascadas for this night.

1) Do I need to pay for the Chiba room separately each time?

2) If I like a Chica and want to spend long time with her, how much does it cost on an average? HOw would you bring this up?

3) Any experience negotiating a 3 way at Cascadas?

4) Do Maseros bother you if you have your own room for the night at Cascadas?

Hadez
07-24-22, 22:15
If you send money just accept you never going to get anything for it. Your money up to you.

Had a girl I was really into in may want some money. I said no. She apologized. I went down there and she earned it.

Rambo1969
07-25-22, 08:37
So If I stay in Cascadas for this night.

1) Do I need to pay for the Chiba room separately each time?

2) If I like a Chica and want to spend long time with her, how much does it cost on an average? HOw would you bring this up?

3) Any experience negotiating a 3 way at Cascadas?

4) Do Maseros bother you if you have your own room for the night at Cascadas?Re 1) Do I need to pay for the Chiba room separately each time?

I don't know what Chiba is. But there is no fee to pay if you are staying in Cascadas.

Re 2) If I like a Chica and want to spend long time with her, how much does it cost on an average? How would you bring this up?

Very standard to ask for $100 for an hour as part of negotiation or $120 for an hour. Just ask.

Re 3) Any experience negotiating a 3 way at Cascadas?

That is so very common there. It does not even raise eyebrows.

I have noticed one older guy with three gals going to his room. That was unusual.

Re 4) Do Maseros bother you if you have your own room for the night at Cascadas?

No door knock if you are sleeping alone or with a street girl.

Not sure what would happen if you took a HK gal to room all night -may be best after she checks out of work from the club and enters hotel as a civilian.

SeaBeeJoe
07-25-22, 16:49
If you send money just accept you never going to get anything for it. Your money up to you.

Had a girl I was really into in may want some money. I said no. She apologized. I went down there and she earned it.This is absolutely right! You won't ever be paid back for free money, sure some of the better girls ones will fuck you for that loan as repayment, but most are vicious gold diggers that will see it as a weakness and view you as a sucker to be exploited. Make the prostitutes work for it I mean they are sex "workers" right?? I don't get free money, I earned all of mine thru hard back breaking work! Guys don't fall in love with a hooker and don't give them free money, but that's all on you. Don't say I didn't warn you if you decide to "support them, their pimps will thank you!!

LightMan1988
07-25-22, 16:57
Re 1) Do I need to pay for the Chiba room separately each time?

I don't know what Chiba is. But there is no fee to pay if you are staying in Cascadas.

Re 2) If I like a Chica and want to spend long time with her, how much does it cost on an average? How would you bring this up?

Very standard to ask for $100 for an hour as part of negotiation or $120 for an hour. Just ask.

Re 3) Any experience negotiating a 3 way at Cascadas?

That is so very common there. It does not even raise eyebrows.

I have noticed one older guy with three gals going to his room. That was unusual.

Re 4) Do Maseros bother you if you have your own room for the night at Cascadas?

No door knock if you are sleeping alone or with a street girl.

Not sure what would happen if you took a HK gal to room all night -may be best after she checks out of work from the club and enters hotel as a civilian.I meant chica. Planning a sexcation trip so wanted to get my ducks in a row.

So what I am hearing is If I book a room for 90 a night I don't have to pay any thing else if I take an HK girl upstairs?

So in that scenario lets say it is 100/ hour and I want to take her for 2 hours, I cannot negotiate for 160?

And if the girl is HK girl, they will come and knock after 2 hours?

Aviator400
07-25-22, 19:53
So If I stay in Cascadas for this night.

My responses are related to HK / BT putas, unless otherwise stated.

1) Do I need to pay for the Chiba room separately each time?

I am assuming this is the same as an arriba. When you have your own room, you may not have to pay directly, but it she stays anywhere near an hour, someone will come knocking "asking" you to buy a bucket of 10 beers for $10 each. Sometimes a mesero will follow you to your room and insist that it is a rule that you buy a bucket just to take her arriba. This "rule" is applied unevenly, so sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't. To me this is a scam that the other clubs do not participate in.

2) If I like a Chica and want to spend long time with her, how much does it cost on an average? HOw would you bring this up?

Bringing it up is easy. Just ask. Indeed, most of my requests for a long time with me have come from her, not from me. Indeed, the girls would rather be making $100-$200/hr in a private room with a decent guy than in the club being groped by cheap customers for $1 or sucking down gallons of sugar water for a few bucks. OTOH, it is unwise to commit to a long time session without at least having one short-term session with her. Personalities tend to change from the booth to the room. Usually for the better, but not always.

Regarding cost, putas I have enjoyed varied from $200 to $500 for TLN. However, there is a Catch 22. Recently an off-duty HK girl who I have done TLNs with without incident was followed to my room by security. They said I must pay $300 to the hotel to have her in my room for the night. If I wanted her for less time, it would be $100/ HR to the hotel. Six years of mongering while staying at Cascadas, this has never happened. Some of my fellow mongers have said their ATFs know how to avoid security on their way to the room or they simply have not been confronted by this bar fine (yet), but others have reported that they have been caught up in this scam. Since I have never TLNed with a puta without having at least one session with her for vetting purposes and I have her contact information, recently I have been renting a room at a nearby downtown hotel, which has worked very well for us.

3) Any experience negotiating a 3 way at Cascadas?
Yes. Again, I have had many putas suggest three-ways. It is just a matter of negotiating price. I will say that out of maybe six such sessions, only one pair from HK and one pair at Adelitas actually worked out for me the way I had hoped. (Note that I am old and don't have the stamina for such activities any more.) Fun to check the box once a year, but not worth the money for me now that I have had the experience.

4) Do Maseros bother you if you have your own room for the night at Cascadas?

Yes. See above. In addition to the bucket scam, I have had the staff walk in on me in the wee hours of the morning three times so far. When they realize that I am in the room, they apologize and disappear. I tell the desk and they claim that it is probably a drunk client who got the wrong room. So how is it that they are wearing a staff uniform and their key card works on my door. Crickets and denial that it is staff. That said, I have never in six+ years of mongering (on average monthly) and staying at Cascadas or Rizo, I have never had anything go missing from the room.

Go. Have fun. Learn from reading the forum and from your experience. Be bold, but don't be stupid.

ABAJoeSmith123
07-25-22, 23:20
Not sure what everyone else's experience has been. But from my personal experience, I've noticed that chicas wearing nipple stickers / tape to cover their nipples are usually doing it to cover some terribly ugly nipple / breast scar from their boob implant. As a result, I've learned to avoid chicas wearing tape covering their nipples. They're either hiding something ugly or they don't' want you to touch them, either of which are turnoffs to me.

Azfriole
07-26-22, 07:41
Not sure what everyone else's experience has been. But from my personal experience, I've noticed that chicas wearing nipple stickers / tape to cover their nipples are usually doing it to cover some terribly ugly nipple / breast scar from their boob implant. As a result, I've learned to avoid chicas wearing tape covering their nipples. They're either hiding something ugly or they don't' want you to touch them, either of which are turnoffs to me.I always just assume they are lactating after a recent delivery. Not my thing so I never inquire.

DGoodLife
07-26-22, 15:57
So If I stay in Cascadas for this night..I was there this past weekend on a bomb run, I use the same mesero Mario all night, and I had a room because I knew I was going to see 4 girls that night so why not have the same room. I did not get this beer scam happen and no knocks. Now I had not been to Tijuana for the last 3-4 years. When did this beer bucket scam start to happen? Why not say "no Querro"? Going again Friday but this has me a bit concern maybe I was lucky and didn't get it or I look like an asshole and they don't bother me.

DGL.

Hadez
07-26-22, 18:36
1. Yes need to pay each girl. Typically 100 per girl per 30 minutes. Some negotiating available on some girls.

2. Been in my room with a girl as long as 3 hours recently with no knock. Been in as short as 45 minutes with a knock. I was told a year ago by a regular the girl initiates this. Have seen evidence to support and not support that the girl initiated the knock.

3. Everyone should try a 3 some. Everyone I know in real life has been disappointed. Have ideas how to get a good one. Long story.

4. Waiters trying to make me money. They will always bug clients. Learn the game.

TjBrazil
07-26-22, 20:29
This is absolutely right! You won't ever be paid back for free money, sure some of the better girls ones will fuck you for that loan as repayment, but most are vicious gold diggers that will see it as a weakness and view you as a sucker to be exploited. Make the prostitutes work for it I mean they are sex "workers" right?? I don't get free money, I earned all of mine thru hard back breaking work! Guys don't fall in love with a hooker and don't give them free money, but that's all on you. Don't say I didn't warn you if you decide to "support them, their pimps will thank you!!Yep free money for no work is a no no. Tipping is fine. The girl is amazing in bed and you tip her 10, no problem, but sending hundreds or thousands to a hooker is just stupid. They have 10 others like you sending them money. They are great actresses with more sick family members than you will be able to keep up with.

LightMan1988
07-27-22, 04:32
1. Yes need to pay each girl. Typically 100 per girl per 30 minutes. Some negotiating available on some girls.

2. Been in my room with a girl as long as 3 hours recently with no knock. Been in as short as 45 minutes with a knock. I was told a year ago by a regular the girl initiates this. Have seen evidence to support and not support that the girl initiated the knock.

3. Everyone should try a 3 some. Everyone I know in real life has been disappointed. Have ideas how to get a good one. Long story.

4. Waiters trying to make me money. They will always bug clients. Learn the game.Thank you all for your information. One question. Do I need to preserve at Cascadas at Friday night or the room is easy to find? Do I need to provide me real name?

Baxter Slade
07-27-22, 16:15
Thank you all for your information. One question. Do I need to preserve at Cascadas at Friday night or the room is easy to find? Do I need to provide me real name?No reason not to reserve a room online. They do not require any kind of prepayment for a reservation. And if for some reason plans change just send an email to cancel. Sometimes they do sell out so no reason not to have a reservation.

As far as name the only thing I give them is a VIP card for ID. My VIP card does contain a fake name but very similar to real name.

MadMan19
07-27-22, 19:29
Greetings gents.

I am thinking of staying at Cascadas in August but worry about the temps then. Is it too hot to be fucking in the rooms?

Many thanks.

SeaBeeJoe
07-28-22, 00:19
The manager at HK is named Adrian, he also goes by the nickname "Coco", for his bald coconut shaped head. The boss of all the HK family of clubs is called Andres.I heard a rumor from a few old Masero buddies of mine that they fired the boss of HK Adrian aka "Coco". I guess a guy by the name of Andres will be stepping into his spot. I heard that Adrian was stealing money from the club to pay for his Gambling addiction. How the mighty have fallen, poor dude.

Rambo1969
07-28-22, 06:35
Greetings gents.

I am thinking of staying at Cascadas in August but worry about the temps then. Is it too hot to be fucking in the rooms?

Many thanks.Cascadas has personal A / C in each room. Works great. You can keep it as cool as you want though the girls don't like it cold.

Also, Tijuana is close to the ocean so like much of California summers are not too hot.

Dogers69
07-28-22, 06:53
Greetings gents.

I am thinking of staying at Cascadas in August but worry about the temps then. Is it too hot to be fucking in the rooms?

Many thanks.There's air conditioning in every room that you would be renting overnight in that hotel. Plus Tijuana "hot" is mild compared to east coast version of hot.

TerOnlyOnce
07-28-22, 07:00
I'm pretty sure the $100 that is typically quoted is for 20-30 minutes.

Usually you get 2 positions and the girl expects you to nut within like 10-15 minutes of actual fucking. The full 30 minutes is spent from the moment she walks into the room, undresses, uses your bathroom, walks around, etc, etc. All that nonsense.

I will say that this though: before you take up a girl I would negotiate heavily on how much time is allocated and what sex acts you get.

If you want a legitimate 1 hour session with a hot girl, at least 2 fuck and nut sessions, I would think that's going to cost at least $140. But I don't know for sure, you may be able to get cheaper.

Also I wouldn't pay upfront if you can. Honestly if the girl will only take payment upfront and won't let you pay at the end, I probably wouldn't take her to the room. If you really want to fuck her you could pay the $100 for 20-30 minutes, bang the shit out of her for that 1 time, then never see her again.

In my opinion, having to pay in the room before the sex is the worst way to handle any situation, and I wouldn't want to do any consistent meet ups with a chica that enforces that. Smash them 1 time to get the experience then look for other girls.

As far as the threesomes are concerned. I haven't done in HK but I can only imagine that it'll 9 times out of 10 be really bad. I would only do it with girls that I've vetted heavily, would not do with new girls or girls I just met.

Captain Solo
07-28-22, 07:32
Sea be,

Adrian, AKA Coco, is a meseros supervisor, a mean, nasty bastard with no idea of customer service. He deserves to be fired, may be even whacked for stealing from the boss.

Andre is HK's general manager, he's upstairs in HK with a bunch of security guys monitoring cameras all over the place. HK's nominal owners, the Brusela brothers, have their offices at La Cueva del Peludo, or the Sieta de Copas.

Looks like the cartel is muscling in HK. They have all new people handling the money at the bars and in Cascada. More people may be whacked until they get their term.

DGoodLife
07-28-22, 16:41
Thank you all for your information. One question. Do I need to preserve at Cascadas at Friday night or the room is easy to find? Do I need to provide me real name?So This is my MO. May not work for many of you that bring lots of things. But I usually reserve a room in Cascadas. Put my arrival time about 1-2 hours of when I will be there. I get to Tijuana and then before checking into the Room, I check the temperature of the club, sometimes the vibe is off for me and it will be a swing and a miss. So I go though AD, HK, TC, LC. If I get a good feeling then ill check in, if I think it will be ok, I go online cancel an turn around and book over ticuan and will hang out at the clubs but get my play off the escort sites.

Now granted I have been burnt once when TIC was fully booked but its not a big problem since there are other hotels in the area. This has worked for me many times over but if your bringing luggage over may not be the best option.

DGL.

Jason07
07-28-22, 20:28
Tight 18 year old fun.