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DannyDavis
07-28-22, 21:53
So This is my MO. May not work for many of you that bring lots of things. But I usually reserve a room in Cascadas. Put my arrival time about 1-2 hours of when I will be there. I get to Tijuana and then before checking into the Room, I check the temperature of the club, sometimes the vibe is off for me and it will be a swing and a miss. So I go though AD, HK, TC, LC. If I get a good feeling then ill check in, if I think it will be ok, I go online cancel an turn around and book over ticuan and will hang out at the clubs but get my play off the escort sites.
Now granted I have been burnt once when TIC was fully booked but its not a big problem since there are other hotels in the area. This has worked for me many times over but if your bringing luggage over may not be the best option.
DGL.Does Ticuan allow the ladies to visit without an upcharge or general hassle? I've stayed at Velario and they demand $10 for every visitor. The money is not as big of a deal as the awkwardness of talking to the desk staff about your third visitor of the day...
Does Ticuan allow the ladies to visit without an upcharge or general hassle? I've stayed at Velario and they demand $10 for every visitor. The money is not as big of a deal as the awkwardness of talking to the desk staff about your third visitor of the day...I've been able to skirt the Velario hotel's $10 visitor fee by simply ignoring the front desk when I enter the hotel with my date in hand and walk directly to my room. I've done this 4-5 times over the last 2-3 years. Sometimes it helps to arrive later in the evening / early morning when staff is noticeably less present. I think the key is to walk in the hotel with a certain degree of arrogance and a vibe like you own the place. Refusing to acknowledge the staff at the front check in desk Works every time for me. YMMV.
BrotherMouzone
07-28-22, 22:19
Thank you all for your information. One question. Do I need to preserve at Cascadas at Friday night or the room is easy to find? Do I need to provide me real name?Especially on weekends, it's always a good idea to reserve a room ahead of time, IMO. A lot of times when you try to walk-in and book a room on weekends they'll either be out of rooms (at least the basic, Deluxe Single rooms that are the most popular) or they'll try to upsell you to one of their more expensive rooms (Master Suite, Double Room) on the spot. I suspect they might do this even if there are still a few basic rooms available. There have been multiple times when I've tried to reserve a room online earlier in the day Friday or Saturday (most recently this past April) and was e-mailed back that they only had Master Suites available for that night.
So do think it's a good idea to reserve your room at least a day or two (if not more if you already know your plans) in advance.
I provide my real name because I usually use a credit card (have been using credit cards there for 2-3 years now. Never had issues with anything). Don't know if you have to if paying cash.
BrotherMouzone
07-28-22, 22:26
Sea be,
Adrian, AKA Coco, is a meseros supervisor, a mean, nasty bastard with no idea of customer service. He deserves to be fired, may be even whacked for stealing from the boss.
Andre is HK's general manager, he's upstairs in HK with a bunch of security guys monitoring cameras all over the place. HK's nominal owners, the Brusela brothers, have their offices at La Cueva del Peludo, or the Sieta de Copas.
Looks like the cartel is muscling in HK. They have all new people handling the money at the bars and in Cascada. More people may be whacked until they get their term.If Adrian was stealing $$$ from HK, surprised he wasn't killed considering who really runs those clubs. There's one security guy at HK I've noticed for a few years now. Constantly walks around the club (usually during the prime night hours) with a serious look on his face, looking for signs of trouble. Think he has a tattoo on his neck, though not sure. You know who I'm talking about?
I'm pretty sure the $100 that is typically quoted is for 20-30 minutes.
Usually you get 2 positions and the girl expects you to nut within like 10-15 minutes of actual fucking. The full 30 minutes is spent from the moment she walks into the room, undresses, uses your bathroom, walks around, etc, etc. All that nonsense.
I will say that this though: before you take up a girl I would negotiate heavily on how much time is allocated and what sex acts you get.
If you want a legitimate 1 hour session with a hot girl, at least 2 fuck and nut sessions, I would think that's going to cost at least $140. But I don't know for sure, you may be able to get cheaper.
Also I wouldn't pay upfront if you can. Honestly if the girl will only take payment upfront and won't let you pay at the end, I probably wouldn't take her to the room. If you really want to fuck her you could pay the $100 for 20-30 minutes, bang the shit out of her for that 1 time, then never see her again.
In my opinion, having to pay in the room before the sex is the worst way to handle any situation, and I wouldn't want to do any consistent meet ups with a chica that enforces that. Smash them 1 time to get the experience then look for other girls.
As far as the threesomes are concerned. I haven't done in HK but I can only imagine that it'll 9 times out of 10 be really bad. I would only do it with girls that I've vetted heavily, would not do with new girls or girls I just met.Words of WISDOM.
I just saw him getting his shoe shine at the front entrance. Adrian.
Sea be,
Adrian, AKA Coco, is a meseros supervisor, a mean, nasty bastard with no idea of customer service. He deserves to be fired, may be even whacked for stealing from the boss.
Andre is HK's general manager, he's upstairs in HK with a bunch of security guys monitoring cameras all over the place. HK's nominal owners, the Brusela brothers, have their offices at La Cueva del Peludo, or the Sieta de Copas.
Looks like the cartel is muscling in HK. They have all new people handling the money at the bars and in Cascada. More people may be whacked until they get their term.
I just saw him getting his shoe shine at the front entrance. Adrian.Hmm maybe it was all bullcrap what I heard then.
If Adrian was stealing $$$ from HK, surprised he wasn't killed considering who really runs those clubs. There's one security guy at HK I've noticed for a few years now. Constantly walks around the club (usually during the prime night hours) with a serious look on his face, looking for signs of trouble. Think he has a tattoo on his neck, though not sure. You know who I'm talking about?I've see him all the time too! Very serious look kinda like some mafia member! Yes he has a tattoo on his neck. He came and checked my phone one night because I took a picture and he cleared it out. But he was nice about it.
Threesome advice spot on.
The 25-30 min thing depends on girl. The super pros are a lot of times the hottest looking chicks in the place. The super pros fall into this catagory.
I have gotten really good at finding the GFE types. They stay in my room for longer. On a run of girls who stay way longer then they should. So far making a girl cum (not always easy) gets me more time.
I'm pretty sure the $100 that is typically quoted is for 20-30 minutes.
Usually you get 2 positions and the girl expects you to nut within like 10-15 minutes of actual fucking. The full 30 minutes is spent from the moment she walks into the room, undresses, uses your bathroom, walks around, etc, etc. All that nonsense.
I will say that this though: before you take up a girl I would negotiate heavily on how much time is allocated and what sex acts you get.
If you want a legitimate 1 hour session with a hot girl, at least 2 fuck and nut sessions, I would think that's going to cost at least $140. But I don't know for sure, you may be able to get cheaper.
Also I wouldn't pay upfront if you can. Honestly if the girl will only take payment upfront and won't let you pay at the end, I probably wouldn't take her to the room. If you really want to fuck her you could pay the $100 for 20-30 minutes, bang the shit out of her for that 1 time, then never see her again.
In my opinion, having to pay in the room before the sex is the worst way to handle any situation, and I wouldn't want to do any consistent meet ups with a chica that enforces that. Smash them 1 time to get the experience then look for other girls.
As far as the threesomes are concerned. I haven't done in HK but I can only imagine that it'll 9 times out of 10 be really bad. I would only do it with girls that I've vetted heavily, would not do with new girls or girls I just met.
Do mongers like girls better who cum easy with pussy licking or the ones who you got to work for.
Did not think this super hot chick was into my skills in a shorter room stay. Hooked up with her again and realized she just needs a little more effort put into certain motions.
I found it was more satisfying then some of these easy to cum girls.
Nothing feels better then a pussy all wet from horny excitement.
Do mongers like girls better who cum easy with pussy licking or the ones who you got to work for.
Did not think this super hot chick was into my skills in a shorter room stay. Hooked up with her again and realized she just needs a little more effort put into certain motions.
I found it was more satisfying then some of these easy to cum girls.
Nothing feels better then a pussy all wet from horny excitement.So I'm a little different when it comes to going downtown on a girl. I will do it with Agency girls especially on a long time meet or early meeting. But I do not, have not, will not with a club or street girl. I guess that's just me though. I've seen that sink clean up or wipe and my mind is like nope.
But we are all different so enjoy what you like. And if she is super hot I understand you trying hard for that arra ara. Ha ha.
DGL.
Do mongers like girls better who cum easy with pussy licking or the ones who you got to work for.
Did not think this super hot chick was into my skills in a shorter room stay. Hooked up with her again and realized she just needs a little more effort put into certain motions.
I found it was more satisfying then some of these easy to cum girls.
Nothing feels better then a pussy all wet from horny excitement.If I'm paying, she is doing the licking and I am doing the cumming. It's a common understanding between the chicas and myself.
So If I stay in Cascadas for this night.
My responses are related to HK / BT putas, unless otherwise stated.
1) Do I need to pay for the Chiba room separately each time?
I am assuming this is the same as an arriba. When you have your own room, you may not have to pay directly, but it she stays anywhere near an hour, someone will come knocking "asking" you to buy a bucket of 10 beers for $10 each. Sometimes a mesero will follow you to your room and insist that it is a rule that you buy a bucket just to take her arriba. This "rule" is applied unevenly, so sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't. To me this is a scam that the other clubs do not participate in.
2) If I like a Chica and want to spend long time with her, how much does it cost on an average? HOw would you bring this up?
Bringing it up is easy. Just ask. Indeed, most of my requests for a long time with me have come from her, not from me. Indeed, the girls would rather be making $100-$200/hr in a private room with a decent guy than in the club being groped by cheap customers for $1 or sucking down gallons of sugar water for a few bucks. OTOH, it is unwise to commit to a long time session without at least having one short-term session with her. Personalities tend to change from the booth to the room. Usually for the better, but not always.
Regarding cost, putas I have enjoyed varied from $200 to $500 for TLN. However, there is a Catch 22. Recently an off-duty HK girl who I have done TLNs with without incident was followed to my room by security. They said I must pay $300 to the hotel to have her in my room for the night. If I wanted her for less time, it would be $100/ HR to the hotel. Six years of mongering while staying at Cascadas, this has never happened. Some of my fellow mongers have said their ATFs know how to avoid security on their way to the room or they simply have not been confronted by this bar fine (yet), but others have reported that they have been caught up in this scam. Since I have never TLNed with a puta without having at least one session with her for vetting purposes and I have her contact information, recently I have been renting a room at a nearby downtown hotel, which has worked very well for us.Wow. Never heard of the bar fine for staying in the room longer. Could be true but your solution sounds like a good one and just go elsewhere. I want to ask the hotel the next time I am down there. Wonder if Tropical hotel is the same?.
-G.
Not sure why HK is beat up so much on this forum.
1. It's an amazing place. It's ironic just how well known it is in the San Diego and other areas. This does not come easy. No other club is talked about like HK.
2. My interactions with the mesero's have been really good. They generally pick guys who speak fairly good English and are very personable. (I have dropped my sun glasses and other items on the floor and they let me know etc.). I actually dropped my wallet at Azul's only to have local Mexican guy point it out when he could have not told me and took the money etc.
3. They let me drink my drink at my own pace and don't push me to buy more and more etc. (there are a ton of stripper bars in the US where it's a 2 drink minimum. US Prices!
4. I believe HK good service has caused other bars in the area to "step up" their game of customer service.
5. Were so frickin lucky to be able to drive a bit and hang out in a bar like that. I feel fairly safe when inside HK compared to other bars in the area. Yep. Shit still happens but I think they try to pr0 tect their customers a bit.
6. For a buck I can squeeze the beautiful girls body and grind on her a bit which is unbelievable.
7. For $10 to sit with one of these girls and have their attention for a bit and talk with them is an amazing experience.
8. For $130 I can take a girl 1/3rd of my age upstairs and fuck the hell out of her. And these girls are gorgeous. Yes there are times I jump the gun and don't filter the girls well enough and get a girl I should not have picked. But this is my mistake and not really a reflection of all the girls in the club.
9. Love the bar's music. And I even noticed it's not as loud at times so you can actually have a little conversation with out yelling (sometimes).
10. I think HK does "weed out" the girls that would not be as good so there is a reason why HK has the reputation it does.
11. It's in Zona Norte which is a very dynamic. Interesting red light district with a ton of other types of experiences you can have with a girl / s. I have been in other type of places like Bali where it was just a house with girls and you pick the girl you want to fuck and take her to the room. Yea. It's great. But not like being able to hang out in HK or other local. So the whole area has some very interesting dynamics that are just not the same as picking up a girl and taking her to a hotel room.
12. Tijuana has some great places to eat when your not pursuing the girls etc.
13. It's literally 30 minutes from where I live. I don't need to get on a flight. I don't need to stay over night. I don't need to spend $$$ to get there.
Anyway. Just a few thoughts from my past experiences. Maybe things have changed a bit? I will keep monitoring but just wanted to share my perspective as I think were dam lucky to have these bars dealing with all the management hurdels to keep these places alive and we should be a "bit" appreciative of all that it takes to make this place happen. It Truley is a Disney land for adults!
-G.
BrotherMouzone
07-30-22, 10:09
I've see him all the time too! Very serious look kinda like some mafia member! Yes he has a tattoo on his neck. He came and checked my phone one night because I took a picture and he cleared it out. But he was nice about it.Yes, I think it was a couple years or so before the pandemic he caught me taking a picture in the club too LOL. Kind of sternly and quickly told me pics weren't allowed in the club and told me to delete the pic. Then quickly checked my phone to make sure I deleted it. But overall was kinda cool / nice about it. Thought at first I might get kicked out of the club LOL.
Not sure why HK is beat up so much on this forum.
1. It's an amazing place. It's ironic just how well known it is in the San Diego and other areas. This does not come easy. No other club is talked about like HK.
2. My interactions with the mesero's have been really good. They generally pick guys who speak fairly good English and are very personable. (I have dropped my sun glasses and other items on the floor and they let me know etc.). I actually dropped my wallet at Azul's only to have local Mexican guy point it out when he could have not told me and took the money etc.
3. They let me drink my drink at my own pace and don't push me to buy more and more etc. (there are a ton of stripper bars in the US where it's a 2 drink minimum. US Prices!
4. I believe HK good service has caused other bars in the area to "step up" their game of customer service.
5. Were so frickin lucky to be able to drive a bit and hang out in a bar like that. I feel fairly safe when inside HK compared to other bars in the area. Yep. Shit still happens but I think they try to pr0 tect their customers a bit.
6. For a buck I can squeeze the beautiful girls body and grind on her a bit which is unbelievable.
7. For $10 to sit with one of these girls and have their attention for a bit and talk with them is an amazing experience.
8. For $130 I can take a girl 1/3rd of my age upstairs and fuck the hell out of her. And these girls are gorgeous. Yes there are times I jump the gun and don't filter the girls well enough and get a girl I should not have picked. But this is my mistake and not really a reflection of all the girls in the club.
9. Love the bar's music. And I even noticed it's not as loud at times so you can actually have a little conversation with out yelling (sometimes).
10. I think HK does "weed out" the girls that would not be as good so there is a reason why HK has the reputation it does.
11. It's in Zona Norte which is a very dynamic. Interesting red light district with a ton of other types of experiences you can have with a girl / s. I have been in other type of places like Bali where it was just a house with girls and you pick the girl you want to fuck and take her to the room. Yea. It's great. But not like being able to hang out in HK or other local. So the whole area has some very interesting dynamics that are just not the same as picking up a girl and taking her to a hotel room.
12. Tijuana has some great places to eat when your not pursuing the girls etc.
13. It's literally 30 minutes from where I live. I don't need to get on a flight. I don't need to stay over night. I don't need to spend $$$ to get there.
Anyway. Just a few thoughts from my past experiences. Maybe things have changed a bit? I will keep monitoring but just wanted to share my perspective as I think were dam lucky to have these bars dealing with all the management hurdels to keep these places alive and we should be a "bit" appreciative of all that it takes to make this place happen. It Truley is a Disney land for adults!
-G.This is not a paid endorsement. The writer is not paid anything for this endorsement!! Seriously HK is not a bad place I do think it is alot cheaper then in Vegas or Reno where I was stationed in the Navy. Girls there want $1000 per hour and this was in 2011 LOL!! That is truly a rip off! Just be smart with your money and try to read these forums for advice, some good tibits here to keep you safe.
DramaFree11
07-30-22, 16:13
This is not a paid endorsement. The writer is not paid anything for this endorsement!! Seriously HK is not a bad place I do think it is a lot cheaper then in Vegas or Reno where I was stationed in the Navy. Girls there want $1000 per hour and this was in 2011 LOL!! That is truly a rip off! Just be smart with your money and try to read these forums for advice, some good tibits here to keep you safe.I here all these complaints about HK. Tell me a place or destination that is better short term? Please do not say Colombia, because it is not.
I went to HK in May and we had a great time. Has there been a lot of changes, are they more strict, yes, but we still had an amazing time. I had to say no, a lot, but who cares. We got a table and a bottle 3 nights, it was cheap. We also had a suite, I could definitely find things to complain about, but nothing compares to HK.
This is not a paid endorsement. The writer is not paid anything for this endorsement!! Seriously HK is not a bad place I do think it is a lot cheaper then in Vegas or Reno where I was stationed in the Navy. Girls there want $1000 per hour and this was in 2011 LOL!! That is truly a rip off! Just be smart with your money and try to read these forums for advice, some good tibits here to keep you safe.Other night I took female friend into Hong Kong. The waiters treated me and her like she was a working girl. Between our 4 drinks, the waiters came and grabbed them from us at about 20% from empty each time. And immediately begged us to buy another drink. We were spending money tipping dancers on stage not sitting there doing nothing. I'm never buying another drink from these waiters again even my free drink coupon will go to bartender. Hong Kong is beat up on the forum because the price basically almost doubled from 4, 5 years ago with the incremental steps they took from prices for girls drinks, reduced months of VIP card, reduced discount VIP card, increases hotel rates, bringing the annoying masero and his drinks into the hotel room. The hotel a the Hong Kong used to be somewhat separate entity. So you could relax a bit in the hotel. Now its like just one big place. They told the girls in all Tijuana the old days of having your own price, is over. Price now is 100 or more. If you add it all up, foe the guys who used to pay 70 for girls, I personally had HK girl for 30, chavelas girls for 50,60 many times before the price increase. So it's the guys who were careful with their spending that see the price increases as really bad situation. Also the guys who go 30 to 50 nights a year are the ones more annoyed not the guys who go 3 nights every 3 years.
Nothing feels better then a pussy all wet from horny excitement.I assume you have never licked a moist sweaty asshole? Sometimes the anus is cleaner than the vagina when it comes to working girls.
You know what the girls say:
" A tongue in the crapper makes a gentleman dapper ".
Aviator400
07-30-22, 19:53
Not sure why HK is beat up so much on this forum.
1. It's an amazing place. It's ironic just how well known it is in the San Diego and other areas. This does not come easy. No other club is talked about like HK.
2. My interactions with the mesero's have been really good. They generally pick guys who speak fairly good English and are very personable. (I have dropped my sun glasses and other items on the floor and they let me know etc.). I actually dropped my wallet at Azul's only to have local Mexican guy point it out when he could have not told me and took the money etc.
3. They let me drink my drink at my own pace and don't push me to buy more and more etc. (there are a ton of stripper bars in the US where it's a 2 drink minimum. US Prices!
4. I believe HK good service has caused other bars in the area to "step up" their game of customer service.
5. Were so frickin lucky to be able to drive a bit and hang out in a bar like that. I feel fairly safe when inside HK compared to other bars in the area. Yep. Shit still happens but I think they try to pr0 tect their customers a bit.
6. For a buck I can squeeze the beautiful girls body and grind on her a bit which is unbelievable.
7. For $10 to sit with one of these girls and have their attention for a bit and talk with them is an amazing experience.
8. For $130 I can take a girl 1/3rd of my age upstairs and fuck the hell out of her. And these girls are gorgeous. Yes there are times I jump the gun and don't filter the girls well enough and get a girl I should not have picked. But this is my mistake and not really a reflection of all the girls in the club.
9. Love the bar's music. And I even noticed it's not as loud at times so you can actually have a little conversation with out yelling (sometimes).
10. I think HK does "weed out" the girls that would not be as good so there is a reason why HK has the reputation it does.
11. It's in Zona Norte which is a very dynamic. Interesting red light district with a ton of other types of experiences you can have with a girl / s. I have been in other type of places like Bali where it was just a house with girls and you pick the girl you want to fuck and take her to the room. Yea. It's great. But not like being able to hang out in HK or other local. So the whole area has some very interesting dynamics that are just not the same as picking up a girl and taking her to a hotel room.
12. Tijuana has some great places to eat when your not pursuing the girls etc.
13. It's literally 30 minutes from where I live. I don't need to get on a flight. I don't need to stay over night. I don't need to spend $$$ to get there.
Anyway. Just a few thoughts from my past experiences. Maybe things have changed a bit? I will keep monitoring but just wanted to share my perspective as I think were dam lucky to have these bars dealing with all the management hurdels to keep these places alive and we should be a "bit" appreciative of all that it takes to make this place happen. It Truley is a Disney land for adults!
-G.You are right on some counts, such as HK causing other bars to up their game in an attempt to compete. HK has the highest number of seriously hot girls of any of the clubs. OTOH, some of its success is attributable to the surrounding area; as you have pointed out, TI has some great places to eat and I enjoy strolling the streets, buying trinkets for family and friends. And the proximity to SD provides additional entertainment, even to those of us who come from out of town.
OTOH, the HK greed has gotten a little out of control. To bar fine me $300 to have an off-duty HK girl in my room for the night is one gripe. (I now invite them to my downtown hotel for TLN, so HK / Cascadas looses two ways, room rental and the bar fine. Plus, I am not hunting as much in HK, so I am not buying drinks, fichas, or food.) Even if you have your own room, HK/Cascadas is requiring that if you have a girl for an hour, sometimes when you have her for just 30 minutes, that you to buy a bucket of 5-10 beers. And they are asking the girls not to provide lap dances in the booths so they can squeeze the mongers for a $23 lap dance in a cubical. VIP cards are now $60 for 90 days, as opposed to $50 for 120+ days. The prices of overnight rooms has gone up recently. The Monday/Tuesday overnight discount has gone from 80 percent to 70 percent. Short-term rooms are $30, up from $16-$20. Condoms were included; now they charge $5 for a $0.25 condom. They have also upped the ficha prices from $9 to $10. I always tip the mesero $1 to $2 for each drink and $3-$4 for bringing me a meal. When fichas were $9, it was easy to hand off a $10. Now you have to keep some $1's on hand to provide those well deserved tips. So maybe you can understand why someone might be down on HK of late.
I have been enjoying HK for almost six years. And it has always been a little more expensive than the others and I accepted that. Quality costs. However, the recent uptick in greed has put me off. I am comfortably retired, but until I win the lotto, I must stay within a budget, which has been much harder to do when patronizing HK these past months. I used to start at HK and migrate to the other clubs. Now I start with the other clubs and HK is my club-of-last-resort. Voting with my dollars.
GentileBear
07-30-22, 22:23
The amazing thing is that all of the Clubs down there like HK, Tropical, Adilitas and Chicago are just a side gig for the "powers that be" - there business is what runs ZN and has been for a long time. That being said; I appreciate you guys updating me on psychotic prices such as $5. 00 condoms and $30.00 knock on door in 12 min rooms. Dear lord. For those of us who need to travel to get there. Tijuana has priced itself out of the market. At least for little ole me. $1. 00 for the Robe, Fichas now $10.00 plus propina. Nah. I'll be back but only on the Alley for the SG's. By my calculation it would be $700 minimum just to do 3 days in Tijuana. I'll fly back to Pattaya instead.
Voting with my dollars.Good job, Aviator. Your comments make sense. I live in PI now but used to go SD +Tijuana monthly before I retired. Vitamin V was real cheap at the pharmacy across from the wax museum, too. Cheers.
Rainman306
07-30-22, 23:45
They let you drink at your own pace because the money is in the lady drinks or fishas which are very often rushed. Yes, when your not rushed and get a good fun girl the $10 fisha is a good deal. Often the 1st fisha is gone so fast your buying a second before you finished the initial questions and then a 3rd before you have started any moves.
I'm not so sure one can claim that HK weeds out "not so great" girls. There's always 20-40% of girls that are closer to average looking than attractive. Lots of girls really aren't into kissing or nipple sucking or dry humping during fishas.
Yes, HK is pretty darn great, but I think the savvy guys are hard on it because they know what it could be with proper management.
LuvMexicanas
07-31-22, 01:27
They let you drink at your own pace because the money is in the lady drinks or fishas which are very often rushed. Yes, when your not rushed and get a good fun girl the $10 fisha is a good deal. Often the 1st fisha is gone so fast your buying a second before you finished the initial questions and then a 3rd before you have started any moves.
I'm not so sure one can claim that HK weeds out "not so great" girls. There's always 20-40% of girls that are closer to average looking than attractive. Lots of girls really aren't into kissing or nipple sucking or dry humping during fishas.
Yes, HK is pretty darn great, but I think the savvy guys are hard on it because they know what it could be with proper management.You've made progress in that you no longer wrote fischas but it's also not fishas. It's fichas so try to remember that. You've written general reports consisting of information anyone could glean from reading the Tijuana threads, but specifics such as which girls you sessioned with were duds versus great would add more value.
Cocr Brotheler
07-31-22, 05:34
I assume you have never licked a moist sweaty asshole? Sometimes the anus is cleaner than the vagina when it comes to working girls.
You know what the girls say:
" A tongue in the crapper makes a gentleman dapper ".I never licking an asshole if I can help it. Little fecals matter always leach out even if you don't taste it then guess what you just got hepatitis. To each his own however.
They let you drink at your own pace because the money is in the lady drinks or fishas which are very often rushed. Yes, when your not rushed and get a good fun girl the $10 fisha is a good deal. Often the 1st fisha is gone so fast your buying a second before you finished the initial questions and then a 3rd before you have started any moves.
I'm not so sure one can claim that HK weeds out "not so great" girls. There's always 20-40% of girls that are closer to average looking than attractive. Lots of girls really aren't into kissing or nipple sucking or dry humping during fishas.
Yes, HK is pretty darn great, but I think the savvy guys are hard on it because they know what it could be with proper management.You make a good point. There are some girls who drink fast and some others that take their time if not pressured from the mesero's. Not sure how to weed out the fast drinkers yet but just know if they drink too fast, I will NOT be buying them a 2nd drink. It does happen sometimes and that kind of irk's me.
-g.
Other night I took female friend into Hong Kong. The waiters treated me and her like she was a working girl. Between our 4 drinks, the waiters came and grabbed them from us at about 20% from empty each time. And immediately begged us to buy another drink. We were spending money tipping dancers on stage not sitting there doing nothing. I'm never buying another drink from these waiters again even my free drink coupon will go to bartender. Hong Kong is beat up on the forum because the price basically almost doubled from 4, 5 years ago with the incremental steps they took from prices for girls drinks, reduced months of VIP card, reduced discount VIP card, increases hotel rates, bringing the annoying masero and his drinks into the hotel room. The hotel a the Hong Kong used to be somewhat separate entity. So you could relax a bit in the hotel. Now its like just one big place. They told the girls in all Tijuana the old days of having your own price, is over. Price now is 100 or more. If you add it all up, foe the guys who used to pay 70 for girls, I personally had HK girl for 30, chavelas girls for 50,60 many times before the price increase. So it's the guys who were careful with their spending that see the price increases as really bad situation. Also the guys who go 30 to 50 nights a year are the ones more annoyed not the guys who go 3 nights every 3 years.Oh, boo hoo. Cry us a river. Stop going! The place is, and always has been, a clip joint. If you don't like it, don't patronize the joint. I stopped going a decade ago and never looked back.
I never licking an asshole if I can help it. Little fecals matter always leach out even if you don't taste it then guess what you just got hepatitis. To each his own however.I have never gotten Hep or sick from eating ass. Maybe a cold or flu but never worse. I do make them wash up first and I use Listerine after. I'm not saying it's possible It just hasn't happened.
Licking an asshole is about as intimate as you can get. That's why many chicas will try and deny me entrance. It's too personal. Too boyfriendish. That's one of the reasons I seek it.
Then again I am totally grossed out by fisting. I can't for the life of me figure out why a gaping asshole is attractive.
The ass does nothing for me. It was fun when I was younger. My wingman pays premium for ass play. One time he got mad at me because I met a girl in the zona with anal cravings and did not appreciate it fully.
I assume you have never licked a moist sweaty asshole? Sometimes the anus is cleaner than the vagina when it comes to working girls.
You know what the girls say:
" A tongue in the crapper makes a gentleman dapper ".
About a year ago changes to the business caused problems with some mongers. I get it.
For me the business model works wonders. Besides the fact I like to travel there is no where else I would rather go. Mexican girls are the best on the planet for my needs. HK alone has hundreds working each night. I have gotten very good at the HK game and figuring out which chica will push my buttons. Add in the smaller potential of near by clubs and street girls. Best place on the planet for me to spend my money. FK Disneyland take me to the Zona!
I am enjoying the outside of the club GFE experience but the club need not worry. My wingmen and I got the next trip planned. I got one for sure future customer coming. Two other highly likely future customers coming. Trying to get 2 old customers to do their first post COVID trip that is going to happen eventually but not putting off my fun waiting.
Not sure why HK is beat up so much on this forum.
1. It's an amazing place. It's ironic just how well known it is in the San Diego and other areas. This does not come easy. No other club is talked about like HK.
2. My interactions with the mesero's have been really good. They generally pick guys who speak fairly good English and are very personable. (I have dropped my sun glasses and other items on the floor and they let me know etc.). I actually dropped my wallet at Azul's only to have local Mexican guy point it out when he could have not told me and took the money etc.
3. They let me drink my drink at my own pace and don't push me to buy more and more etc. (there are a ton of stripper bars in the US where it's a 2 drink minimum. US Prices!
4. I believe HK good service has caused other bars in the area to "step up" their game of customer service.
5. Were so frickin lucky to be able to drive a bit and hang out in a bar like that. I feel fairly safe when inside HK compared to other bars in the area. Yep. Shit still happens but I think they try to pr0 tect their customers a bit.
6. For a buck I can squeeze the beautiful girls body and grind on her a bit which is unbelievable.
7. For $10 to sit with one of these girls and have their attention for a bit and talk with them is an amazing experience.
8. For $130 I can take a girl 1/3rd of my age upstairs and fuck the hell out of her. And these girls are gorgeous. Yes there are times I jump the gun and don't filter the girls well enough and get a girl I should not have picked. But this is my mistake and not really a reflection of all the girls in the club.
9. Love the bar's music. And I even noticed it's not as loud at times so you can actually have a little conversation with out yelling (sometimes).
10. I think HK does "weed out" the girls that would not be as good so there is a reason why HK has the reputation it does.
11. It's in Zona Norte which is a very dynamic. Interesting red light district with a ton of other types of experiences you can have with a girl / s. I have been in other type of places like Bali where it was just a house with girls and you pick the girl you want to fuck and take her to the room. Yea. It's great. But not like being able to hang out in HK or other local. So the whole area has some very interesting dynamics that are just not the same as picking up a girl and taking her to a hotel room.
12. Tijuana has some great places to eat when your not pursuing the girls etc.
13. It's literally 30 minutes from where I live. I don't need to get on a flight. I don't need to stay over night. I don't need to spend $$$ to get there.
Anyway. Just a few thoughts from my past experiences. Maybe things have changed a bit? I will keep monitoring but just wanted to share my perspective as I think were dam lucky to have these bars dealing with all the management hurdels to keep these places alive and we should be a "bit" appreciative of all that it takes to make this place happen. It Truley is a Disney land for adults!
-G.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-31-22, 19:52
HK chica that had been so clingy with me finally broke up with me. I went to the club and went arriba with another chica when my hk GF was back home far away in mexico. Apparently she has eyes everywhere and her friends texted her that I was seeing going arriba with another chica. BOOM. I got the worst chain of nasty texts from her immediately with more wrath and fury than ever before.
Crazy how she can bang 200 men a week and I bang one chica that isn't her and it's over, LOL. Crazy! Well. It's a nasty and bitter end to our relationship BUT this fiasco did give me an out finally to a relationship I didn't see having a happy ending.
On another note. Condom fell off while pulling out. Fmylife. I believe this has happened a few times to me already. Gdammit. Time for PEP.
HK chica that had been so clingy with me finally broke up with me. I went to the club and went arriba with another chica when my hk GF was back home far away in mexico. Apparently she has eyes everywhere and her friends texted her that I was seeing going arriba with another chica. BOOM. I got the worst chain of nasty texts from her immediately with more wrath and fury than ever before.
Crazy how she can bang 200 men a week and I bang one chica that isn't her and it's over, LOL. Crazy! Well. It's a nasty and bitter end to our relationship BUT this fiasco did give me an out finally to a relationship I didn't see having a happy ending.
On another note. Condom fell off while pulling out. Fmylife. I believe this has happened a few times to me already. Gdammit. Time for PEP.You don't need pep for that. The girls get tested at times anyway. And 1 second inside her would be close to impossible to get hiv. Even if she had hiv, and you didn't use a condom, and banged her for an hour, the statistical odds of getting hiv are extremely low, even lower if your circumcised, and its much easier for the girl to get huv from you.
1030 pm went for 35 minutes. Not as many woman as you had been seeing last 2 months. No girls said Hello, or flirted with me as I sat on bar stools and walked around. Male it rain man was back pouring thousands of singles. Left for adelitas. It was packed. Often I ca t get a bar seat anymore in adelitas. If you go back 4 years I always could get a bar seat. In fact often I can't get a bar stool, or back bar stool, or even stage seat in adelitas. But I wouldn't really sit at adelitas stage its no fun no woman will approach me like that. But the guys must be happy with adelitas if they are pouring in. Maybe the rooms are cheaper? Proceeded to Gloria bar. Very crowded didn't stay. Then Chicago. Chicago had a good atmosphere. They have a bubble machine in back at the far stage. It made bubbles and filled up the whole area you could go walling through it if you wanted. Two girls approached me. So better than Hong Kong. Bought a ficha for 1 I've seen for years she's a pros pro probably lives right in Zona Norte. A nice girl but eve. She didn't want to do 2nd fixha when she realized I wasn't going to be paying for sex. Went o malqueria club or whatever its called. Next to Ibiza. . Hadn't been there since my 1st year in Tijuana years ago. It had a lot of woman working in it dancing on poles but I don't think they have sex or do fixhas at least I couldn't tell what they were doing there exactly.
HK chica that had been so clingy with me finally broke up with me.
Crazy how she can bang 200 men a week and I bang one chica that isn't her and it's over, LOL.
On another note. Condom fell off while pulling out. Fmylife. I believe this has happened a few times to me already. Gdammit. Time for PEP.Congrats on ending the relationship where only one person is monogamous. Very weird indeed.
That happened to me in the past till I discovered slightly thinner tighter fitting condoms.
Now I no longer have this accident on normal days as long as I am sufficient erect. Of course can still have accidents if I go limp in during the act.
I buy these in volume Lifestyles Snugger Fit: 100-Pack of Condoms.
At https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004FRR336.
HK chica that had been so clingy with me finally broke up with me. I went to the club and went arriba with another chica when my hk GF was back home far away in mexico. Apparently she has eyes everywhere and her friends texted her that I was seeing going arriba with another chica. BOOM. I got the worst chain of nasty texts from her immediately with more wrath and fury than ever before.
Crazy how she can bang 200 men a week and I bang one chica that isn't her and it's over, LOL. Crazy! Well. It's a nasty and bitter end to our relationship BUT this fiasco did give me an out finally to a relationship I didn't see having a happy ending.
On another note. Condom fell off while pulling out. Fmylife. I believe this has happened a few times to me already. Gdammit. Time for PEP.ABAJoeSmith, I am sure will be ok and won't need Pep unless that makes you sleep better at night. As far was your ex Hk "girlfriend" that has happened to me before, the chicas always have other puta friends that tattle on you sometimes they even lie. There are eyes all over that club LOL or any club for that matter, the life of a monger LOL.
You are right on some counts, such as HK causing other bars to up their game in an attempt to compete. HK has the highest number of seriously hot girls of any of the clubs. OTOH, some of its success is attributable to the surrounding area; as you have pointed out, TI has some great places to eat and I enjoy strolling the streets, buying trinkets for family and friends. And the proximity to SD provides additional entertainment, even to those of us who come from out of town.
OTOH, the HK greed has gotten a little out of control. To bar fine me $300 to have an off-duty HK girl in my room for the night is one gripe. (I now invite them to my downtown hotel for TLN, so HK / Cascadas looses two ways, room rental and the bar fine. Plus, I am not hunting as much in HK, so I am not buying drinks, fichas, or food.) Even if you have your own room, HK/Cascadas is requiring that if you have a girl for an hour, sometimes when you have her for just 30 minutes, that you to buy a bucket of 5-10 beers. And they are asking the girls not to provide lap dances in the booths so they can squeeze the mongers for a $23 lap dance in a cubical. VIP cards are now $60 for 90 days, as opposed to $50 for 120+ days. The prices of overnight rooms has gone up recently. The Monday/Tuesday overnight discount has gone from 80 percent to 70 percent. Short-term rooms are $30, up from $16-$20. Condoms were included; now they charge $5 for a $0.25 condom. They have also upped the ficha prices from $9 to $10. I always tip the mesero $1 to $2 for each drink and $3-$4 for bringing me a meal. When fichas were $9, it was easy to hand off a $10. Now you have to keep some $1's on hand to provide those well deserved tips. So maybe you can understand why someone might be down on HK of late.
I have been enjoying HK for almost six years. And it has always been a little more expensive than the others and I accepted that. Quality costs. However, the recent uptick in greed has put me off. I am comfortably retired, but until I win the lotto, I must stay within a budget, which has been much harder to do when patronizing HK these past months. I used to start at HK and migrate to the other clubs. Now I start with the other clubs and HK is my club-of-last-resort. Voting with my dollars.Good to know about the $300 bar fine. I had no idea they did that. I wonder if Tropical is the same way. I have only had 30 or at the most 45 minute sessions in these rooms. That is kind of bullshit considering your already paying for the hotel room over night and already dumping money into the club. Staying out of Cascadas sounds like a logical thing to do if your going for a few days.
-G.
The fine applies to Tropical as well.
Girl I was a regular with was busy all shift. Not even going upstairs just selling beers. When her shift ended I tried to take her to my room. They want $100 per hour or $300 total night.
This is a case of the girl selling beers for 6 hours and then not being allowed to make upstairs money. Pretty rediculous if you ask me.
Things worked out for me. Feel bad for my former regular.
It has been about 3 years since I went to HK. During the "pandemic" I let my passport expire and I am excited to plan my return. This is more of a curiosity question and not a deal breaker. What does a bottle of XX go for these days. I rtfo and ficha drinks are now $10 - see I RTFO. Also. Any other big differences between 3 years ago and now. Any and all is appreciated.
DramaFree11
08-02-22, 02:07
About a year ago changes to the business caused problems with some mongers. I get it.
For me the business model works wonders. Besides the fact I like to travel there is no where else I would rather go. Mexican girls are the best on the planet for my needs. HK alone has hundreds working each night. I have gotten very good at the HK game and figuring out which chica will push my buttons. Add in the smaller potential of near by clubs and street girls. Best place on the planet for me to spend my money. FK Disneyland take me to the Zona!
I am enjoying the outside of the club GFE experience but the club need not worry. My wingmen and I got the next trip planned. I got one for sure future customer coming. Two other highly likely future customers coming. Trying to get 2 old customers to do their first post COVID trip that is going to happen eventually but not putting off my fun waiting.I agree, HK is great for a couple of days, there is nothing that come close, maybe Germany. I can understand if you go every weekend it can get old, but then you meet girls on there off time and outside the club.
Germany is great, but expensive and a long flight. I just do not how guys can complain about either destination.
Ludacris775
08-02-22, 05:42
It has been about 3 years since I went to HK. During the "pandemic" I let my passport expire and I am excited to plan my return. This is more of a curiosity question and not a deal breaker. What does a bottle of XX go for these days. I rtfo and ficha drinks are now $10 - see I RTFO. Also. Any other big differences between 3 years ago and now. Any and all is appreciated.I went there post pandemic and didn't really see any major differences except prices are a little higher (most girls ask at least for $100) and there is a temperature check for people entering the club.
It has been about 3 years since I went to HK. During the "pandemic" I let my passport expire and I am excited to plan my return. This is more of a curiosity question and not a deal breaker. What does a bottle of XX go for these days. I rtfo and ficha drinks are now $10 - see I RTFO. Also. Any other big differences between 3 years ago and now. Any and all is appreciated.Compared to 3 years ago. Basically prices are up about 20-40%. Especially HK & street gals.
HK club is much more fun due to 2 reasons. They combined it with adjacent club Las Chavelas. Which has great Mexican live bands on many evening nights.
And HK club expanded on the other side too with a brand new section. That part is only open weekends.
All else is about the same. You will have a great time!!
BrotherMouzone
08-02-22, 16:41
I agree, HK is great for a couple of days, there is nothing that come close, maybe Germany. I can understand if you go every weekend it can get old, but And therein lies the rub, IMO. As counterintuitive as it may sound, HK's true customer base (at least in terms of spending) aren't the dudes (like many of the ones on here complaining) that hit up HK on a weekly / multiple times a week basis. It's the dudes like myself and other out-of-towners (which includes "out of town" folks nearby from LA and other parts of Cali) who go to HK maybe once up to a handful of times a year and have no problems indulging in vacation-like spending every time they make the trip out there. While the price hikes suck, "regulars" like myself who don't actually go regularly are more likely to grin and bear it because you're only dealing with it every so often, you're on vacation anyway, and the pricing overall is still way cheaper than anything in the States. Not to mention these activities being legal in Tijuana while still being very illegal in the States LOL.
There's actually been similar nickel-and-dime hiking of prices that's been going on in Vegas for the past several years now (e. G. , resort fees, parking on the Strip no longer free at most casinos, etc.). But if you're an out-of-towner only going to Vegas once every year or two, you're generally willing to grin and bear it as you're only going to Vegas every once in a blue moon anyway.
So I don't see this hurting business for HK. It'll still be business as usual with most of the same customers willing to shell out the extra $$$ (even if reluctantly).
Captain Solo
08-02-22, 18:14
Aviator is right.
HK management's brutal pressure on putas, meseros, hotel workers to extract money from their clients is just unreasonable and nasty. HK's management and workers think their clients are a bunch of weak and stupid wimps who can be pushed around and squeezed for all their money at every tur. They have been acting like bullies, treating their clients like shit.
Chicago recently has quite a few beautiful, glammy girls working, some are fresh, looking innocent. It's really trying hard, offering various freebies, nonstop shows and entertainment, far more fun, sexy, relaxed and laid back without constant pressure to squeeze money out of guys like HK. The bros should spend their time and money in Chicago and Adelita to help them retain talents and grow, also give HK some competition to make them improve their services.
The bros are also urged to tame down, keep payments and tips close to normal market rates to keep prices and services reasonable and stable for the rest of the guys and locals. We should not cause unreasonable expectations and excess inflation that will harm locals' interests in their onw playing field. So far local guys have been very welcoming, tolerant and hospitable in sharing their sexy fun with us. But if we price them out of their own market, they will get pissed off and things can get ugly for us.
resort fees.The Hilton in La Jolla charged me a resort fee. What the F is a resort fee with a 4 pm check-in time?
AmorPorFavor
08-02-22, 21:16
Prices for everything worldwide are up. Guess what, there is inflation in Tijuana too. Prices for many things have gone up in the city.
DramaFree11
08-03-22, 00:47
Aviator is right.
HK management's brutal pressure on putas, meseros, hotel workers to extract money from their clients is just unreasonable and nasty. HK's management and workers think their clients are a bunch of weak and stupid wimps who can be pushed around and squeezed for all their money at every tur. They have been acting like bullies, treating their clients like shit.
Chicago recently has quite a few beautiful, glammy girls working, some are fresh, looking innocent. It's really trying hard, offering various freebies, nonstop shows and entertainment, far more fun, sexy, relaxed and laid back without constant pressure to squeeze money out of guys like HK. The bros should spend their time and money in Chicago and Adelita to help them retain talents and grow, also give HK some competition to make them improve their services.I think Pre-Covid mgmt. Was pretty chilled, now it is all about money. Things have definitely changed, I do like the increased security, but a lot of energy is now gone from the hotel and Azul. We still had unbelievable time, but as I told my friend, get use to saying, "No at HK."
On a side note Thursday and Friday were great. Saturday there was just too many dudes and not enough girls.
Rainman306
08-03-22, 07:36
Bros should give the other big clubs a shot also. I am about 98% sure between Chicago, Tropical & Adelita a guy could find an attractive & fun women. Chicago had a good lineup on my visit last month. Tropical has a lot of average talent, but there's usually 2-3 gems; sometimes even more.
Even Bar Gold Palace had 2 near stunners on my last trip to Tijuana.
The interiors of all the Zona bars are fine. They all operate on the same program. Just HK now has the most & best looking women.
The way to keep having fun is easy. It also means HK probably makes less money overall.
Do not go down every weekend spending whatever on drinks and maybe get 1 or 2 girls. Save up money and have 2-3 trips a year. Save money and go less often with more money.
I see what mongers do to make their quick trips regularly and I think that business model is more difficult with some of the new ways of doing things. I have been more times this year than probably any other year but I still am probably not top 10 in people I know who go. Well maybe I have cracked top 10 if we include "GFE" trips outside the club. There are some who go as many times in 2 months as I use to go pre-2022 all year.
I agree, HK is great for a couple of days, there is nothing that come close, maybe Germany. I can understand if you go every weekend it can get old, but then you meet girls on there off time and outside the club.
Germany is great, but expensive and a long flight. I just do not how guys can complain about either destination.
On July 4th weekend the last time I went to the clubs it was obvious how much other clubs picking up their game. I will probably start heading into some of the other smaller bars too with the HK rules. The harsh rules hitting waiters and girls too. They are starting to work the other clubs. I know one girl who will not even come to Tijuana to work anymore. She offered to come to Tijuana to see me but refuses to work in the clubs. It is too bad because she is maybe the best GFE experience I have had. She will come to me but if most mongers want to see her they now need to go to Guadalajara.
There will be an adjustment period. If HK keeps coming down this hard things will change. Apparently the flights to other cities in Mexico are extremely cheap. More than one girl wants me to fly to other cities or is even willing to come to Tijuana but avoid the Zona. My favorite right now just left HK a couple weeks ago and is coming back when I come back so HK gets me another trip to show they can be reasonable. I will be spending more time in other clubs though.
There is a waiter I know who now works in another club and is asking me to come to that club.
Mongers, ladies and waiters all getting hammered by the greedy HK. Hope this is a temporary thing because if this keeps happening HK may lose its crown.
They need more business minded people and less tyrants in charge. It really takes a bad business person to mess up that gold mine. The right business person with a vision could take it 3-4 levels higher.
Bros should give the other big clubs a shot also. I am about 98% sure between Chicago, Tropical & Adelita a guy could find an attractive & fun women. Chicago had a good lineup on my visit last month. Tropical has a lot of average talent, but there's usually 2-3 gems; sometimes even more.
Even Bar Gold Palace had 2 near stunners on my last trip to Tijuana.
The interiors of all the Zona bars are fine. They all operate on the same program. Just HK now has the most & best looking women.
The Hilton in La Jolla charged me a resort fee. What the F is a resort fee with a 4 pm check-in time?Resort fees are fees that cover the free shit that hotels give customers like bus rides to the mall, or holding your luggage until you check in, etc. But as you can see, it is not really free. It is just spread out to all customers regardless of usage. Think of it as a HK chica robe fee.
Before the pandemic, I remember taking a chica from Golden Nugget upstairs and they sent a clown meseros to my room with a bucket of beer and I thought about throwing his ass down the stairs at I got pissed. And I thought to myself that this is the reason Golden Nugget will remain a stupid dive bar instead of a real club like HK. Apparently HK recently hired the scamming manager of Golden Nugget to fuck over customers.
Adelitas used to the the King of the Zona Norte. Then it implemented the early knock scam. And guys took their money to other clubs. BTW, HK looks full right now when you guys are visiting. But upon a closer look, it is really a result of HK closing off most of its space to get people packed in rather than an increase in patrons. Unless it is a late night on Fridays or Saturdays, the expansion into their former garage and most of the upstairs are not even used. And Chubelas is just a waiting room for the chicas. HK may feel crowded, but it really isn't.
The way to keep having fun is easy. It also means HK probably makes less money overall.
Do not go down every weekend spending whatever on drinks and maybe get 1 or 2 girls. Save up money and have 2-3 trips a year. Save money and go less often with more money.
I see what mongers do to make their quick trips regularly and I think that business model is more difficult with some of the new ways of doing things. I have been more times this year than probably any other year but I still am probably not top 10 in people I know who go. Well maybe I have cracked top 10 if we include "GFE" trips outside the club. There are some who go as many times in 2 months as I use to go pre-2022 all year.I am down to twice a week now in the Zona. I used to go 4 times a week pre pandemic. Nowadays I don't even bother with HK unless a girlfriend (s) calls me over. To me, the other clubs offers everything HK offers, without stupid scamming games. They are just spread out to several clubs, that is the only difference.
BrotherMouzone
08-03-22, 19:09
The Hilton in La Jolla charged me a resort fee. What the F is a resort fee with a 4 pm check-in time?Per their website below are the amenities Hilton charges the $32/ night resort fee for. Hotel guest gets charged the fee whether they use any of these amenities or not. Similar sort of thing in Vegas where in the past they would only charge if you used them. Just an excuse to nickel and dime. Early check-in / Late check-out is another nickel and dime method that's become more common (at least in Vegas) - at least for late check-out, it used to be customary that they would give you an hour or two grace period past stated checkout time to checkout if you asked.
"The resort fee includes:
Pool access.
Spa access.
Health club access.
Fitness / yoga classes.
Sporting facilities or equipment.
Nearby fitness center access.
Business center / computer access.
Internet access.
Phone calls.
In-room bottled water.
In-room coffee.
Concierge service.
Wired Internet access (may be limited)".
LuvMexicanas
08-03-22, 19:33
Per their website below are the amenities Hilton charges the $32/ night resort fee for. Hotel guest gets charged the fee whether they use any of these amenities or not. Similar sort of thing in Vegas where in the past they would only charge if you used them. Just an excuse to nickel and dime. Early check-in / Late check-out is another nickel and dime method that's become more common (at least in Vegas) - at least for late check-out, it used to be customary that they would give you an hour or two grace period past stated checkout time to checkout if you asked..But if you stay entirely with points, there's no resort fee.
Per their website below are the amenities Hilton charges the $32/ night resort fee for. Hotel guest gets charged the fee whether they use any of these amenities or not. Similar sort of thing in Vegas where in the past they would only charge if you used them. Just an excuse to nickel and dime. Early check-in / Late check-out is another nickel and dime method that's become more common (at least in Vegas) - at least for late check-out, it used to be customary that they would give you an hour or two grace period past stated checkout time to checkout if you asked.
"The resort fee includes:
Pool access.
Spa access.
Health club access.
Fitness / yoga classes.
Sporting facilities or equipment.
Nearby fitness center access.
Business center / computer access.
Internet access.
Phone calls.
In-room bottled water.
In-room coffee.
Concierge service.
Wired Internet access (may be limited)".This is all fine and good but with a 4 pm check-in time and checkout at 11 am WHEN do I get to use all these services?
Agree with nickel and dime nonsense. I already know what my Yelp review will say! Just another reason to spend money down in Mexico.
I might need to steal a few pool towels to make my night worth it.
Per their website below are the amenities Hilton charges the $32/ night resort fee for. Hotel guest gets charged the fee whether they use any of these amenities or not. Similar sort of thing in Vegas where in the past they would only charge if you used them. Just an excuse to nickel and dime. Early check-in / Late check-out is another nickel and dime method that's become more common (at least in Vegas) - at least for late check-out, it used to be customary that they would give you an hour or two grace period past stated checkout time to checkout if you asked.
"The resort fee includes:
Pool access.
Spa access.
Health club access.
Fitness / yoga classes.
Sporting facilities or equipment.
Nearby fitness center access.
Business center / computer access.
Internet access.
Phone calls.
In-room bottled water.
In-room coffee.
Concierge service.
Wired Internet access (may be limited)".I travel to Vegas a lot on business. The above is why I finally started boycotting the casinos and staying in regular hotels that don't have resort fees. During Covid they most certainly did not waive these fees, yet all of those facilities were shut down. You were paying $30+ per night for really crappy Internet. Nope. Not anymore. For almost the exact same price I can go to a La Quinta, or similar, get a decent room, and breakfast, and screw those casinos.
MarksOfMagic
08-03-22, 22:50
Aviator is right.
HK management's brutal pressure on putas, meseros, hotel workers to extract money from their clients is just unreasonable and nasty. HK's management and workers think their clients are a bunch of weak and stupid wimps who can be pushed around and squeezed for all their money at every tur. They have been acting like bullies, treating their clients like shit.
Chicago recently has quite a few beautiful, glammy girls working, some are fresh, looking innocent. It's really trying hard, offering various freebies, nonstop shows and entertainment, far more fun, sexy, relaxed and laid back without constant pressure to squeeze money out of guys like HK. The bros should spend their time and money in Chicago and Adelita to help them retain talents and grow, also give HK some competition to make them improve their services.
The bros are also urged to tame down, keep payments and tips close to normal market rates to keep prices and services reasonable and stable for the rest of the guys and locals. We should not cause unreasonable expectations and excess inflation that will harm locals' interests in their onw playing field. So far local guys have been very welcoming, tolerant and hospitable in sharing their sexy fun with us. But if we price them out of their own market, they will get pissed off and things can get ugly for us.Been on semi boycott of HK myself. I started going to zona when arriba prices were 60. I have seen the rise to 80 prepandemic, to no less than 100 and now even 120/150 chica rates post pandemic plus 30 for the room and with a gold magnum. I keep most of my money to the streets and back alley now a days. Too many times I have walked the walk of shame towards cbp from an HK trip feelin like the biggest Imbecile and thinking what did I just spend 300 on? One of the worst feelings ever. Rarely have I had that feeling when I switched up to daytrips with street tacos and avoiding Hk altogether. Ill go to hk for a special occasions or newbie introduction, but I've actually been showing newbies Options on how you can have 6 x value for you money on a one night HK budget.
Bros should give the other big clubs a shot also. I am about 98% sure between Chicago, Tropical & Adelita a guy could find an attractive & fun women. Chicago had a good lineup on my visit last month. Tropical has a lot of average talent, but there's usually 2-3 gems; sometimes even more.
Even Bar Gold Palace had 2 near stunners on my last trip to Tijuana.
The interiors of all the Zona bars are fine. They all operate on the same program. Just HK now has the most & best looking women.The problem with Tijuana is HK sets the prices it seems. Everyone else follows. Like the day HK changes prices the other bars do a week later if not sooner. Take Chicago club for example their beers are 4 bucks. No free beer coupon like HK. Baseball stadiums used to fit 50,55 thousand. They decides they don't need the extra 15 to 20 k fans in the building. Their small dollar $ mean nothing to MLB. Plus the price increases for the other seats due to supply and demand. This is HK business model. Eliminate the cheaper dudes, get more $$ from the other dudes, population increases world wide will cover a lot of the dudes that stay away, prices can go up another 30% next week, and even if volume guys goes down 20%, HK can make it up.
DramaFree11
08-04-22, 02:21
I travel to Vegas a lot on business. The above is why I finally started boycotting the casinos and staying in regular hotels that don't have resort fees. During Covid they most certainly did not waive these fees, yet all of those facilities were shut down. You were paying $30+ per night for really crappy Internet. Nope. Not anymore. For almost the exact same price I can go to a La Quinta, or similar, get a decent room, and breakfast, and screw those casinos.This is why I do not complain about prices in Mxico. My hobby in the states would cost double or triple. HK is still reasonably priced, but you do need to be careful. I love Mxico.
I just do not have the time to fly to Europe and Moscow is a no go for the near future, so I will stick with MTY, CDMX and the occasional trip to HK.
Gauntlets, Roadblocks and Checks: The Road to redemption of my Hongkong Gentlemen's Club VIP Gold Card.
About $60 for 120 day validity.
Great value Monday and Tuesday at adjacent Cascadas Hotel for $23 a night with $30 refundable deposit. (Don't lose that receipt).
The Gauntlet:
Redeemed the free breakfast Card that came with the hotel card key. Available between 8 am-1030 am Monday-Wednesday.
1. Go to Hongkong Bar entrance after 8 am and get your mandatory security body massage.
2. Go hand Breakfast Card / coupon and VIP card to mesero (waiter).
3. Waiter escorts you to cashier to redeem a free drink and breakfast.
4. Cashier indicates the pictured breakfast is an extra dollar.
5. Paid the extra dollar to mesero.
6. Mesero proceeds to search for a Head Mesero to approve the meal.
7. Supervisor mesero indicates the free meal will cost me $10, Then I said I already paid the initial $1, Ok then he says they don't honor the card on Wednesday. Bullshit!
8. Finally got my food boxed and delivered, Took my food up Azul Restaurant Balcony and got some proper silverware and plate. Runtime 30 minutes.
The Roadblock:
VIP card perks is free valet and parking. I Self-parked at Pepe's and had ticket stamped during hotel check-in.
Unfortunately the blue ink was illegible.
Parking Kiosk guy says I need a (sello) stamp and need to walk back to HK or pay for 2 days. Bullshit!
You Call Hongkong or Cascadas reception cause I ain't moving (I was the roadblock) 2 cars waiting behind.
Hongkong sends a guy on golf cart and smooth things out with my VIP card and confirms room number. Runtime 20 minutes.
Checks:
Apparently the VIP card extra 15 min late checkout is only for short time rooms.
I have a 2 day room but checkout is at 1 pm.
First day I hear door knocking at 1:15 pm at my room. So I have to yell at them from the crapper that I have the room till tomorrow.
Had to call reception to inform the (talachero) room guys to leave me be. Diarrhea runtime 10 minutes.
There are many more perks I have to redeem from my VIP card. But I am sure I will have a time OFF my life!
What are your VIP Card Redemption Adventures?
Amigos. Like few people said already, now a days it became so expensive to hit Tijuana. Higher prices and also lot of attitude. It is completely a hit or miss. Disappointed many times lately $300 is not enough for a trip now a days. Any cheaper recommendations just to hang around with chicas and practice my spanish? Thanks.
. Too many times I have walked the walk of shame towards cbp from an HK trip feelin like the biggest Imbecile and thinking what did I just spend 300 on? One of the saddest experiences a monger can have is paying for sex while being hustled and STILL not getting what they want. That's why those strip clubs don't do it for me. They thrive on that game. They RUN SHIT while the whole premise of mongering IMO is for YOU to run shit at a fair price for both parties. Without YOU there is no Monger $$.
Gauntlets, Roadblocks and Checks: The Road to redemption of my Hongkong Gentlemen's Club VIP Gold Card.
About $60 for 120 day validity.
Great value Monday and Tuesday at adjacent Cascadas Hotel for $23 a night with $30 refundable deposit. (Don't lose that receipt).
The Gauntlet:
Redeemed the free breakfast Card that came with the hotel card key. Available between 8 am-1030 am Monday-Wednesday.
1. Go to Hongkong Bar entrance after 8 am and get your mandatory security body massage.
2. Go hand Breakfast Card / coupon and VIP card to mesero (waiter).
3. Waiter escorts you to cashier to redeem a free drink and breakfast.
4. Cashier indicates the pictured breakfast is an extra dollar.
5. Paid the extra dollar to mesero.
6. Mesero proceeds to search for a Head Mesero to approve the meal.
7. Supervisor mesero indicates the free meal will cost me $10, Then I said I already paid the initial $1, Ok then he says they don't honor the card on Wednesday. Bullshit!
8. Finally got my food boxed and delivered, Took my food up Azul Restaurant Balcony and got some proper silverware and plate. Runtime 30 minutes.
The Roadblock:
VIP card perks is free valet and parking. I Self-parked at Pepe's and had ticket stamped during hotel check-in.
Unfortunately the blue ink was illegible.
Parking Kiosk guy says I need a (sello) stamp and need to walk back to HK or pay for 2 days. Bullshit!
You Call Hongkong or Cascadas reception cause I ain't moving (I was the roadblock) 2 cars waiting behind.
Hongkong sends a guy on golf cart and smooth things out with my VIP card and confirms room number. Runtime 20 minutes.
Checks:
Apparently the VIP card extra 15 min late checkout is only for short time rooms.
I have a 2 day room but checkout is at 1 pm.
First day I hear door knocking at 1:15 pm at my room. So I have to yell at them from the crapper that I have the room till tomorrow.
Had to call reception to inform the (talachero) room guys to leave me be. Diarrhea runtime 10 minutes.
There are many more perks I have to redeem from my VIP card. But I am sure I will have a time OFF my life!
What are your VIP Card Redemption Adventures?Trying to get lap dance discount with vip card is complex. Ubneed a receipt, free, from when you get your free drink. Not afterward it has to happen when you got free drink. But using it can be different each time. Sometimes you have to go back give the money to the desk guy for the dance or sometimes just paybthe guy at the dance booth. So I stopped doing them plus I realized the girls absolutely hate doing dances these girls are lazy compared to American strip clubs. They will spend the whole dance begging you to go up for sex. Like I just paid $ for a dance and they think I'm gona end the dance 20 seconds into it for sex. I guess some guys do it so they try their best. For myself I won't be buying the vip card anymore as I slept in Tijuana about 30 days the last 2 months and only used hk hotel 1 night, the hassle with the pat down walking into hotel, having hotel guy go through touching my clean pillow sheets that I put in my backpack, lack of window in the room, easiernto get hotel on revolucion. Plus to redeem vip card for free drink is often a 10 to 15 minute line. So not worth buying the card. I did eat at Azul a few times using the card for discount.
BrotherMouzone
08-04-22, 17:40
Gauntlets, Roadblocks and Checks: The Road to redemption of my Hongkong Gentlemen's Club VIP Gold Card.
About $60 for 120 day validity.
Great value Monday and Tuesday at adjacent Cascadas Hotel for $23 a night with $30 refundable deposit. (Don't lose that receipt).
The Gauntlet:
Redeemed the free breakfast Card that came with the hotel card key. Available between 8 am-1030 am Monday-Wednesday.
1. Go to Hongkong Bar entrance after 8 am and get your mandatory security body massage.
2. Go hand Breakfast Card / coupon and VIP card to mesero (waiter).
3. Waiter escorts you to cashier to redeem a free drink and breakfast.
4. Cashier indicates the pictured breakfast is an extra dollar.
5. Paid the extra dollar to mesero.
6. Mesero proceeds to search for a Head Mesero to approve the meal.
7. Supervisor mesero indicates the free meal will cost me $10, Then I said I already paid the initial $1, Ok then he says they don't honor the card on Wednesday. Bullshit!
8. Finally got my food boxed and delivered, Took my food up Azul Restaurant Balcony and got some proper silverware and plate. Runtime 30 minutes.
The Roadblock:
VIP card perks is free valet and parking. I Self-parked at Pepe's and had ticket stamped during hotel check-in.
Unfortunately the blue ink was illegible.
Parking Kiosk guy says I need a (sello) stamp and need to walk back to HK or pay for 2 days. Bullshit!
You Call Hongkong or Cascadas reception cause I ain't moving (I was the roadblock) 2 cars waiting behind.
Hongkong sends a guy on golf cart and smooth things out with my VIP card and confirms room number. Runtime 20 minutes.
Checks:
Apparently the VIP card extra 15 min late checkout is only for short time rooms.
I have a 2 day room but checkout is at 1 pm.
First day I hear door knocking at 1:15 pm at my room. So I have to yell at them from the crapper that I have the room till tomorrow.
Had to call reception to inform the (talachero) room guys to leave me be. Diarrhea runtime 10 minutes.
There are many more perks I have to redeem from my VIP card. But I am sure I will have a time OFF my life!
What are your VIP Card Redemption Adventures?In 3 years or so of signing up for the VIP card I've not had any problems with it. I'm pretty sure the VIP card is $60 for 90 days, not 120. If you use the card for more than 2-3 days within a 90 day period, the card more than pays for itself in terms of hotel costs and the complimentary drink you receive daily with the card alone. Also free admission to HK when they try to charge an admission fee on the weekends. I don't really use the card for much else but still find it to be very worth it. As far as the free breakfast, it does state on the website that hotel customers get free breakfast on Tuesdays and Wednesdays (not necessarily even exclusive to VIP members) so would've just shown them where it says that on the website and see what they had to say about that. But I've never tried to eat breakfast at Azul. I have used my VIP card in the recent past for a discount at that new Senda Norte restaurant across the street. Seems like a much nicer restaurant than Azul and the food is good there.
I have had the issue you mention once with HK staff knocking on my door a day early thinking I was supposed to check out that day instead of the next. That was annoying but ended up getting sorted out.
Gauntlets, Roadblocks and Checks: The Road to redemption of my Hongkong Gentlemen's Club VIP Gold Card.
About $60 for 120 day validity.
Great value Monday and Tuesday at adjacent Cascadas Hotel for $23 a night with $30 refundable deposit. (Don't lose that receipt).
I never bought a VIP card in my 22 years of going to the zona. After your detailed description I have less of a desire to do so. Too much bureaucracy it seems in getting all the value from it, seems more like a rip off to me like everything in HK and the zona. That's why I always stay sober, I don't do drugs, and I only pay for services in person no free money to the girls. It seems like there are more scammers now in the digital smart phone ruled world. Back in the day girls had no choice but to talk with you and be friendly, there was no facebook, instagram, or tik tok. Kinda miss those days was more simple and a lot of fun.
DramaFree11
08-04-22, 22:59
Amigos. Like few people said already, now a days it became so expensive to hit Tijuana. Higher prices and also lot of attitude. It is completely a hit or miss. Disappointed many times lately $300 is not enough for a trip now a days. Any cheaper recommendations just to hang around with chicas and practice my spanish? Thanks.Get a part time job. You guys complain, but there is nothing cheaper then HK, short term. Try going to Vegas or Cancun, see how far $300 gets you. You can get better service, and GFE in MTY, CDMX or GDL. Then you will have to have to factor in hotel, food and a flight. Are lifestyle is not cheap, but it can be so much fun!
Get a part time job. You guys complain, but there is nothing cheaper then HK, short term. Try going to Vegas or Cancun, see how far $300 gets you. You can get better service, and GFE in MTY, CDMX or GDL. Then you will have to have to factor in hotel, food and a flight. Are lifestyle is not cheap, but it can be so much fun!Adelitas, Chicago, Golden Nugget, Tropicals, Street, Escorts are all cheaper than HK.
I think that you opinion is bias because you are not a local, and when you are in Tijuana, you visit HK exclusively and you are making a tourist comparison to Vegas and Cancun when all of the bars above are within walking distance. Literally within 3 minutes of walking. I mean you can fucking stand in front of HK and throw a baseball into the doors of the other bars.
But then my complaints are about the shitty policy and scams being ran, rather than pricing. No kissing in the clubs so that they can get the guys to the private dance rooms. Room Knock to sell a fool a buck of beer. Really? Fucking bullshit hustles that the dive bars like the Playboy club used to hustle. I don't see the other bars pimping those fucking stupid hustles.
I'm at the club right now. Maybe it's because I've been a way for a couple weeks but there seems to be a lot of new ladies. They got a pretty good selection right now and several have approached me for drinks / tips and been offered a couple threesomes within my first half hour here. Been turning them away since I just got here and want to study the field a little more. I'm too lazy to weed out the typical service girls from the more GFE friendly types right now.
About 15-20 minutes after my last post I spotted a pretty cute, tatted up spinner. She was sitting down at the bar and she set off my GFE spidey senses. I took a seat at the opposite end of then bar and kept my eye on her. She eventually made it to one of the smaller stages and started dancing. Figured I would tip her and feel her out. She was a little aloof at first but then I gave her a second tip and whispered in her ear that she was pretty and offered her 80 for arriba. She gave me a kiss on the cheek, smiled and said it was 100. I told her I would be glad to give her 100 if she did BBBJ. Before she could think about it I gave her a kiss on the lips. I threw another question at her and asked if she's a good kisser. She said of course. I replied ok let's head upstairs then? She agreed (thankfully) and we headed upstairs and just trusted my instincts it would be a good session. When we got our drinks she got a non alcoholic drink and I hoped it wasn't a red flag. But once we were in the room it was what I hoped it would be. DFK, BBBJ, BLS, DATY (she offered it to me but didn't partake). She left the regular lighting too. She never asked for the money, which always makes it a little bit more of a GFE experience. Lots of eye contact too at all times, also a big plus and could take a good pounding. For my first time being with her we hit it off pretty great. I was shocked when she told me she was only 20 years old. What I also liked about her is she didn't use any lube, just her spit a couple times and she sucks dick in between changing positions. We chatted afterwards and got into a surprisingly deep conversation. She said it's only her third time working in HK, so don't know how often she'll be here but I got her number. Hopefully she's more of a regular because I would be glad to throw her on my rotation.
DramaFree11
08-06-22, 03:57
Adelitas, Chicago, Golden Nugget, Tropicals, Street, Escorts are all cheaper than HK.
I think that you opinion is bias because you are not a local, and when you are in Tijuana, you visit HK exclusively and you are making a tourist comparison to Vegas and Cancun when all of the bars above are within walking distance. Literally within 3 minutes of walking. I mean you can fucking stand in front of HK and throw a baseball into the doors of the other bars.
But then my complaints are about the shitty policy and scams being ran, rather than pricing. No kissing in the clubs so that they can get the guys to the private dance rooms. Room Knock to sell a fool a buck of beer. Really? Fucking bullshit hustles that the dive bars like the Playboy club used to hustle. I don't see the other bars pimping those fucking stupid hustles.Adelitas is horrible, I can not speak about the other places. HK blows Adelitas away, there is zero comparison. You can get by fairly cheap if you are smart at HK. Tuesday-Friday HK is great, Satuday and Monday kind of suck, for different reasons. Again nothing in the world compares to HK, maybe places in Asia, but Asia is not for me. Germany is great, lots of fun, but way more expensive, crappy food and bad service.
About 15-20 minutes after my last post I spotted a pretty cute, tatted up spinner. She was sitting down at the bar and she set off my GFE spidey senses. I took a seat at the opposite end of then bar and kept my eye on her. She eventually made it to one of the smaller stages and started dancing. Figured I would tip her and feel her out. She was a little aloof at first but then I gave her a second tip and whispered in her ear that she was pretty and offered her 80 for arriba. She gave me a kiss on the cheek, smiled and said it was 100. I told her I would be glad to give her 100 if she did BBBJ. Before she could think about it I gave her a kiss on the lips. I threw another question at her and asked if she's a good kisser. She said of course. I replied ok let's head upstairs then? She agreed (thankfully) and we headed upstairs and just trusted my instincts it would be a good session. When we got our drinks she got a non alcoholic drink and I hoped it wasn't a red flag. But once we were in the room it was what I hoped it would be. DFK, BBBJ, BLS, DATY (she offered it to me but didn't partake). She left the regular lighting too. She never asked for the money, which always makes it a little bit more of a GFE experience. Lots of eye contact too at all times, also a big plus and could take a good pounding. For my first time being with her we hit it off pretty great. I was shocked when she told me she was only 20 years old. What I also liked about her is she didn't use any lube, just her spit a couple times and she sucks dick in between changing positions. We chatted afterwards and got into a surprisingly deep conversation. She said it's only her third time working in HK, so don't know how often she'll be here but I got her number. Hopefully she's more of a regular because I would be glad to throw her on my rotation.Thanks for the post, I am glad to see someone is still having fun and not complaining about how much of a rip off HK is now LOL! Honestly they have the hottest women I ever fucked in my life, no joke and I was in Europe for 4 years with the Navy! Maybe I just love Latinas who knows LOL. Although the Czech Republic and Hungry were very cheap and nice for mongering, the women were spectacular!
DonCarlos1234
08-06-22, 11:56
Adelitas, Chicago, Golden Nugget, Tropicals, Street, Escorts are all cheaper than HK.
I think that you opinion is bias because you are not a local, and when you are in Tijuana, you visit HK exclusively and you are making a tourist comparison to Vegas and Cancun when all of the bars above are within walking distance. Literally within 3 minutes of walking. I mean you can fucking stand in front of HK and throw a baseball into the doors of the other bars.
But then my complaints are about the shitty policy and scams being ran, rather than pricing. No kissing in the clubs so that they can get the guys to the private dance rooms. Room Knock to sell a fool a buck of beer. Really? Fucking bullshit hustles that the dive bars like the Playboy club used to hustle. I don't see the other bars pimping those fucking stupid hustles.I know exactly what Drama is saying. I lived in Baja for 6 years. Been to Colombia and not regretting one peso of the 25 K I spent (over 3 years & 5 visits. I am due for a return. But killing time in Vegas. It ain't no sex prison but it ain't cheep either. Suck it up guys. This board is a little jaded. Spoiled. I lost count of the visits to Tijuana - 100- 200? More? Money was always cheap compared to USA. Girls are almost as hot as the ones I found in Colombia ahhh but I was usually on SA and visiting La Isla. I will be back at HKTJ ASAP. Another 2 weeks probably. This board is in the minority for the guys that visit HK but they are always (like USA gringos) asking. Complaining, wanting more. I understand but geez just pay them what they are worth instead. Pay them double. LOL fire away!
Remember I said one of Alejandra's Saudi clients at the club was taking her on exotic trips around the world? I guess that wasn't enough. Funny too because just a few days ago she was accusing him of being a liar. Next thing you know he shows up with this little present for her.
...Germany is great, lots of fun, but way more expensive, crappy food and bad service.Sorry buddy, I am not sure which Germany you are talking about, but not the one I am familiar with.
I first went to Germany for the FKKs in 2006. They were charging then about 50 euros for half an hour session, plus around 60/80 Euros for entrance fee. The entrance fee was for 24 hours, and included food and drinks. The last time I was there, in 2019, the session was still 50 Euros. It had not changed all these years. That is not expensive!
The result was that all the pretty girls went somewhere else over the years, due to the constant 50 euros price. As of 2019, I found mostly Romanian girls manning the FKKs. Luckily, post pandemic, the price appears to have gone up to 100 Euros per session. Again, this is comparable to HK pricing when you include the fichas and other expenses.
And the food is not that bad, IMO. I may agree with you on the service, however.
DramaFree11
08-07-22, 18:10
Sorry buddy, I am not sure which Germany you are talking about, but not the one I am familiar with.
I first went to Germany for the FKKs in 2006. They were charging then about 50 euros for half an hour session, plus around 60/80 Euros for entrance fee. The entrance fee was for 24 hours, and included food and drinks. The last time I was there, in 2019, the session was still 50 Euros. It had not changed all these years. That is not expensive!
The result was that all the pretty girls went somewhere else over the years, due to the constant 50 euros price. As of 2019, I found mostly Romanian girls manning the FKKs. Luckily, post pandemic, the price appears to have gone up to 100 Euros per session. Again, this is comparable to HK pricing when you include the fichas and other expenses.
And the food is not that bad, IMO. I may agree with you on the service, however.I liked Germany as well. The food was not very good, especially compared to Mxico. I am talking about the guys complaining about spending $100-300, at HK. Germany you have the flight and other expenses. Great value, but definitely not cheap. I love both places.
I prefer to skip the middle man, before Covid and the war I would go to Moscow. Obviously not an option now. Honestly I like CDMX better.
Mxico, I love Tijuana, but with flights are more expensive and issues at the border, the trip is much more expensive for me and a bigger hassle. I go to MTY / CDMX, same prices, but I gets much better service from the girls, multiple sessions or over night.
I try to skip the middle man and go to destination where there are not of Sex Tourists.
Remember I said one of Alejandra's Saudi clients at the club was taking her on exotic trips around the world? I guess that wasn't enough. Funny too because just a few days ago she was accusing him of being a liar. Next thing you know he shows up with this little present for her.Romantic. Hope she gives to him her present, 9 months from now.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-08-22, 02:19
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.
BrotherMouzone
08-08-22, 02:53
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.Just posted this YouTube video earlier today in another thread on this board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZvw_CNB1UM.
LuvMexicanas
08-08-22, 02:57
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HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.Not only bargirls but many people from all walks of life and countries are irresponsible and do not have any savings. $125 is a lot of money for many.
It is your money to send or not.
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.It is a Fucci purse (fake) and try talking investments, retirement, or savings. Completely foreign concept and that is how you know their vicious cycle of being a slave to material possessions and debt. It is about survival and keeping food on the table for most. If they ask you to buy the ticket, get their name, dob, etc. And buy it for them on vivaaerobus or Volaris. If she is asking for straight cash, then most likely being used to pay off some other debts she may have obtained or possibly another Fucci bag or something similar.
BlackThought
08-08-22, 04:17
Sorry buddy, I am not sure which Germany you are talking about, but not the one I am familiar with.
I first went to Germany for the FKKs in 2006. They were charging then about 50 euros for half an hour session, plus around 60/80 Euros for entrance fee. The entrance fee was for 24 hours, and included food and drinks. The last time I was there, in 2019, the session was still 50 Euros. It had not changed all these years. That is not expensive!
The result was that all the pretty girls went somewhere else over the years, due to the constant 50 euros price. As of 2019, I found mostly Romanian girls manning the FKKs. Luckily, post pandemic, the price appears to have gone up to 100 Euros per session. Again, this is comparable to HK pricing when you include the fichas and other expenses.
And the food is not that bad, IMO. I may agree with you on the service, however.I used to frequent the NRW area for work, flew into Dusseldorf. In 2019, clubs such as Acapulco was 40 euro for 30 min and living room / golden time was 50 euro. 90%+ Romanians and their personalities are definitely colder than Latinas / Asians, but the BBBJs were the best. It was a great deal at 50 euros for 30 min, but not worth it if the new price is 100 euro for 30 min.
I returned from Bangkok recently and the street girls were $60 / hour or $100-150 for 3-4 hours. A freaking bargain compared to FKKs or HK club. Also like the fact that there's a lot more to do than just mongering in BKK.
HK service levels are so inconsistent and hygiene is a huge issue. I also don't like that BBBJ isn't the standard service and requires negotiating, whereas in Germany I'the get it 90%+ of the time without asking, and in BKK it's been 100%.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-08-22, 04:38
Just posted this YouTube video earlier today in another thread on this board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZvw_CNB1UM.This would be true if you sent them actual money for a ticket for them to buy themselves. But they wouldn't profit from it at all if you straight up bought them the ticket which they can't cash out. I also don't like the idea of purchasing a flight using a credit card that carries my personal information on it. You never know, but these girls could be part of some gangster ring that calls the airport to get your information from your credit card such as your home address. I hate to this admit this but I've given this chica a lot of money in the past which is why her not being able to pay for a $100 airplane ticket is a huge red flag to me on so many fronts. I did not buy the air ticket just FYI.
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.Many days I've started the day with zero dollars in San diego, knew I needed $ for Tijuana. Kept working till 3 pm, ran off to Tijuana with $130 and went back in the morning with maybe $20. I saw a gringo I knew at 5 am with a gigantic suitcase when in my hotel lobby waiting for uber. He was walking to the border hahah. I gave him ride in my uber. If I waited for savings to do hk I would missed out on last 6 years.
Have had several girls ask me for plane tickets. I do not send anyone money idgaf what the reason is.
I straight told one girl if she can not make enough money to get her butt back to Tijuana maybe she needs to find another profession.
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.
This is the biggest example of crazy stuff but I got on good sources the hot and good girls get clients that pay 300-500. Girls have told me this and guys have told me they pay this much for specific services.
Remember I said one of Alejandra's Saudi clients at the club was taking her on exotic trips around the world? I guess that wasn't enough. Funny too because just a few days ago she was accusing him of being a liar. Next thing you know he shows up with this little present for her.
AmorPorFavor
08-08-22, 06:31
Remember I said one of Alejandra's Saudi clients at the club was taking her on exotic trips around the world? I guess that wasn't enough. Funny too because just a few days ago she was accusing him of being a liar. Next thing you know he shows up with this little present for her.She is fat. I wouldn't even give her $100.
Rainman306
08-08-22, 08:46
If your not in the hard No camp for sending girls money the best way to "play" it is to assume temporary BF status and start constant communication and aim for something special at the end of the deal. If something seems too off abort on sending the money.
My usual goal with American strippers was to see them outside the club, but in Tijuana your already doing that with the arriba and getting them to go to dinner or out for drinks isn't that hard either.
You don't want to be part of a money scheme so communicate a lot get her to the point of thinking you'll send the money. Then go quiet for a bit -see how she reacts. Maybe request some favor. A BBBJ or cheap ovetnight.
Captain Solo
08-08-22, 16:22
This girl looks ridiculous like a freak with her head smaller than her pumped up boob; her butt is even bigger. But I am not surprised many guys would fall in love with freaks.
Stories like this one will make every little girl in Mexico pump up her boobs and butt and quickly move to Tijuana to become the next HK's Cinderella with a brand-new MBZ SUV.
AmorPorFavor
08-08-22, 17:30
This girl looks ridiculous like a freak with her head smaller than her pumped up boob; her butt is even bigger. But I am not surprised many guys would fall in love with freaks.
Stories like this one will make every little girl in Mexico pump up her boobs and butt and quickly move to Tijuana to become the next HK's Cinderella with a brand-new MBZ SUV.You got to wonder what a rich Saudi is doing messing around in Tijuana with HK putas when he could be anywhere in the world with the best looking women on the planet.
ScatManDoo
08-08-22, 18:04
This girl looks ridiculous like a freak with her head smaller than her pumped up boob; her butt is even bigger. But I am not surprised many guys would fall in love with freaks.
Stories like this one will make every little girl in Mexico pump up her boobs and butt and quickly move to Tijuana to become the next HK's Cinderella with a brand-new MBZ SUV.Why discourage a girl's dreams?
BrotherMouzone
08-08-22, 19:03
If your not in the hard No camp for sending girls money the best way to "play" it is to assume temporary BF status and start constant communication and aim for something special at the end of the deal. If something seems too off abort on sending the money.
My usual goal with American strippers was to see them outside the club, but in Tijuana your already doing that with the arriba and getting them to go to dinner or out for drinks isn't that hard either.
You don't want to be part of a money scheme so communicate a lot get her to the point of thinking you'll send the money. Then go quiet for a bit -see how she reacts. Maybe request some favor. A BBBJ or cheap ovetnight.LOL, at the end of the day to each his own but I'm stumped as to why anyone would want to have "BF status" or send money to these chicas in the first place. These girls deserve full respect as grown women and respect as human beings trying to make a living to support their families (which is more respect than those clubs give them IMO) but beyond that I personally wouldn't give them a damn thing without services rendered LOL. IMO, most of these girls are experienced manipulators and are better at "playing the game" you describe above than most of us are (which I'm actually not knocking them for. It's a great skill to have in their line of work). So I think you're already starting yourself off at a disadvantage if you try to "play" what is essentially a game they're already well-versed and experienced at.
Are people really looking to be the boyfriend or husband of a sex worker? I do not want to discourage anyone but that path is not one with good success rates.
I really enjoy spending time with these girls. Some a lot. I know I am a revenue source. They give me time. They give me what I use to call GFE but actually they put on their best Loca.
I am Joker looking for my Loca.
LuvMexicanas
08-09-22, 01:39
Are people really looking to be the boyfriend or husband of a sex worker? I do not want to discourage anyone but that path is not one with good success rates.
I really enjoy spending time with these girls. Some a lot. I know I am a revenue source. They give me time. They give me what I use to call GFE but actually they put on their best Loca.
I am Joker looking for my Loca.You totally get it man. Guys can do what they want (the whole their dick, money and time thing), but like you I just want the best performance during the time I pay for.
Rainman306
08-09-22, 02:24
When I mentioned "temporary boyfriend status" I only meant it in the sense that she will.
Respond to you very fast always, text you first and text and text (maybe call you also) if you don't respond right away. The communication will shift to that of a boyfriend vs. Customer or casual friend.
I've had co-workers, aquaitances, & even a couple strippers shift into girlfriends and they amount & quickness of communication changes drastically.
Since in Mexico you can already have sex with the strippers I don't know if there's a great reason to send money. Finding a girl in Mexico doesn't seem so hard.
As I posted before, I only sent money because the first time I actually did "owe it" to the girl and I've gotten good results. Many who ask fail my rigorous communication and interrogation like questions. I never sent large amounts of money, typical between $50 to a couple hundred. If things don't move forward as I like I stop.
But this is all in Midwest USA where seeing strippers, especially the 8's and 9's can be a bit tough.
Remember I said one of Alejandra's Saudi clients at the club was taking her on exotic trips around the world? I guess that wasn't enough. Funny too because just a few days ago she was accusing him of being a liar. Next thing you know he shows up with this little present for her.Wow some guys have too much money burning a hole in their bank. If I was rich I would still be conversative with my money, no Mercedes SUV's for putas. Wow just wow!
BrotherMouzone
08-09-22, 03:54
I never sent large amounts of money, typical between $50 to a couple hundred. If things don't move forward as I like I stop.
They've already "won" the game here. That was all they needed. Especially when you multiply that "$50 to a couple hundred" by however many other dudes they're hitting up for similar amounts.
Just posted this YouTube video earlier today in another thread on this board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZvw_CNB1UM.That video is spot on, it is absolutely right don't send money to a puta, especially one in Tijuana. They are hitting up all the other guys "fishing" for money to escape from their many "emergencies" LOL. Direct transactions only, you play then you pay her period!
Stopped by the club Sunday night around 10 pm. Lots of ladies in the house. Some new faces. Saw this girl, very pretty, could pass as judiths twin sister, if you're familiar with her. Hesitated to approach her because she seemed disinterested in being there, looking bored and too cool for the room. I thought about it too much and eventually some other guy grabbed her for some drinks. She seemed to perk up a little bit. You snooze you lose. I reached out to the 20 year old I had a great session with on Friday but she said she was out of town unfortunately. Didn't really spot another girl who I thought I could pull a GFE type session from so visited Chicago and Adelitas. Chicago had 2 girls I was interested in but again were already taken by a couple mongers buying them drinks. Adelitas didn't have much to offer either. The Colombian girls seem to have taken the night off. They're usually a little more game to get down and dirty from my experiences. Headed back to HK where I had seen a very in shape MILF who had caught my attention for a while now because she resembles an acquaintance from my mom from back in the day who I always had a crush on as a kid. Saw her get up and start dancing at the bar. Approached her with a tip and right away she wanted me to take her arriba. I asked if she did BBBJ, she giggled and said no. Told her that was too bad. She claimed she would still give me a great CBJ with BLS though and that she likes making out. I guess she saw I was a bit skeptical and she DFK'd me right then and there at the bar. I was still hesitating because of no BBBJ but with the thought of the lady I had a crush on from back in the day, agreed to take her upstairs. She ordered a tequila for the room and said she was ready for a good time. This chick really did love to make out and she did give an amazing blow job albeit it was CBJ. Lots of BLS and even a little rimming on me. She said if I became her novio she would give me BBBJ. I told her I can be her novio for 30 minutes and she giggled. She fucked like a champ too because of her great stamina, probably does a lot of cardio. At one point the rubber slipped off and she didn't freak out or anything like other girls do. For the finish she asked if I wanted to cum on her tits or ass. Since she had a nice pair of tits I chose to bust my nut all over them as she squeezed them together and begged for my cum. When she took a shower afterwards she mentioned I should have came on her face. WTF, I didn't know that was an option LOL. I told her next time haha. She gave me her number and said to reach out next time I go to the club and I probably will. She definitely knows how to treat a guy.
You nailed it. As long as the place is full and making money, they don't care if the daily visitors are happy or not.
And therein lies the rub, IMO. As counterintuitive as it may sound, HK's true customer base (at least in terms of spending) aren't the dudes (like many of the ones on here complaining) that hit up HK on a weekly / multiple times a week basis. It's the dudes like myself and other out-of-towners (which includes "out of town" folks nearby from LA and other parts of Cali) who go to HK maybe once up to a handful of times a year and have no problems indulging in vacation-like spending every time they make the trip out there. While the price hikes suck, "regulars" like myself who don't actually go regularly are more likely to grin and bear it because you're only dealing with it every so often, you're on vacation anyway, and the pricing overall is still way cheaper than anything in the States. Not to mention these activities being legal in Tijuana while still being very illegal in the States LOL.
There's actually been similar nickel-and-dime hiking of prices that's been going on in Vegas for the past several years now (e. G. , resort fees, parking on the Strip no longer free at most casinos, etc.). But if you're an out-of-towner only going to Vegas once every year or two, you're generally willing to grin and bear it as you're only going to Vegas every once in a blue moon anyway..
Good points.
2 things I have learned.
1. Girls communicate differenatly. Try not to compare different girls when trying to understand their feelings.
2. Look at the pics of their social media. If she puts a pic up that was taken with you when you know darn well she has better pics to use she is sending a message to you. What meesage she is sending can be fun trying to figure out.
Lastly. I live in LA. Lots of hot girls here. Imo I been wasting money on these girls in SoCal. There are some IG accounts that display crazy hot 304's available for $80-120 less than 15 minutes from my home. I personally need more than a pretty face with bad customer service attitude. We need to import some sex workers to get some competition going.
When I mentioned "temporary boyfriend status" I only meant it in the sense that she will.
Respond to you very fast always, text you first and text and text (maybe call you also) if you don't respond right away. The communication will shift to that of a boyfriend vs. Customer or casual friend.
I've had co-workers, aquaitances, & even a couple strippers shift into girlfriends and they amount & quickness of communication changes drastically.
Since in Mexico you can already have sex with the strippers I don't know if there's a great reason to send money. Finding a girl in Mexico doesn't seem so hard.
As I posted before, I only sent money because the first time I actually did "owe it" to the girl and I've gotten good results. Many who ask fail my rigorous communication and interrogation like questions. I never sent large amounts of money, typical between $50 to a couple hundred. If things don't move forward as I like I stop.
But this is all in Midwest USA where seeing strippers, especially the 8's and 9's can be a bit tough.
TerOnlyOnce
08-09-22, 19:23
Never send a girl money before you meet her. Never, ever, never.
No matter the circumstance. Only give money once you meet up and its agreed you are going to hook up.
Also, when it comes to sex workers I prefer everything covered, even CBJ. I actually do not like to get a BBBJ from a sex worker. Something about a woman that is accessible to any man that pays her $XXX doesn't sit well with me, therefore I decide to make the intelligent decision of covering my man parts.
I will say that when I see sugar babies that go to school or have actual day jobs, then yes I let them give me BBBJ. And civilian girls obviously BBBJ.
I need to keep myself clean for regular girls that I see, can't let putas infecting me with nonsense.
Never send a girl money before you meet her. Never, ever, never.
No matter the circumstance. Only give money once you meet up and its agreed you are going to hook up.
Also, when it comes to sex workers I prefer everything covered, even CBJ. I actually do not like to get a BBBJ from a sex worker. Something about a woman that is accessible to any man that pays her $XXX doesn't sit well with me, therefore I decide to make the intelligent decision of covering my man parts.
I will say that when I see sugar babies that go to school or have actual day jobs, then yes I let them give me BBBJ. And civilian girls obviously BBBJ.
I need to keep myself clean for regular girls that I see, can't let putas infecting me with nonsense.Any woman that is in the transactional business has the possibility of getting you infected. I recall some SA hookups that were college chicks that are willing to do bare services if the money is right. Sugar babies are no different. They all trade time for money. I would bet most professional sex workers are more educated about STDs than the average sugar baby or ones with regular jobs, unless they don't take your money. You never know and everyone loves to hobby differently, but yes, best advice is to wrap it up for the sake of potential STDs or future children.
Can get infected from anyone. Not going to play ping pong with the probability chart it can come from anyone. Some are transmitted even with a condom.
I suggest everyone do their research if they in this hobby. Get tested regularly and try to see girls who get tested regularly.
Any woman that is in the transactional business has the possibility of getting you infected. I recall some SA hookups that were college chicks that are willing to do bare services if the money is right. Sugar babies are no different. They all trade time for money. I would bet most professional sex workers are more educated about STDs than the average sugar baby or ones with regular jobs, unless they don't take your money. You never know and everyone loves to hobby differently, but yes, best advice is to wrap it up for the sake of potential STDs or future children.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-10-22, 02:57
Any woman that is in the transactional business has the possibility of getting you infected. I recall some SA hookups that were college chicks that are willing to do bare services if the money is right. Sugar babies are no different. They all trade time for money. I would bet most professional sex workers are more educated about STDs than the average sugar baby or ones with regular jobs, unless they don't take your money. You never know and everyone loves to hobby differently, but yes, best advice is to wrap it up for the sake of potential STDs or future children.Hearing about all these BBBJ's makes me nervous about wanting to ever have any GFE mouth kissing with any of these girls.
Many days I've started the day with zero dollars in San diego, knew I needed $ for Tijuana. Kept working till 3 pm, ran off to Tijuana with $130 and went back in the morning with maybe $20. If I waited for savings to do hk I would missed out on last 6 years.Congrats Dogers69.
You are smart.
Over life I have seen low correlation between net worth and enjoyment in life via spending. Because many people, including me, have a savings mentality and have an issue with splurging.
So often I see far less financial well-off guys have much more fun than me because they are willing to spend.
This article touches on that theme called "money scripts" https://finmasters.com/money-scripts/.
& video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3O3fLJRE8.
Remember I said one of Alejandra's Saudi clients at the club was taking her on exotic trips around the world? I guess that wasn't enough. Funny too because just a few days ago she was accusing him of being a liar. Next thing you know he shows up with this little present for her.It is amazing that I see a man who is a bigger fool then me. Maybe he will keep throwing money at her in the hopes she finally falls in love with him? How does a guy like this end up rich? Inheritance?? This jist blows my mind, like the guy who bought a house for his puta girlfriend. She left that winner and moved in with her boyfriend. Damn guys wake the fuck up!
If she does anything with you assume she is doing it with everyone else every night she works. Get yourself tested assuming this is happening.
There is a no holds bar chica who works in tropical and has essentially been there almost every day for months. Her not taking a break makes me start to question if these bar girls get tested as much as some think. Eventually something will happen.
Hearing about all these BBBJ's makes me nervous about wanting to ever have any GFE mouth kissing with any of these girls.
Aviator400
08-10-22, 21:43
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.The short answer is YES. They are very irresponsible. One example is a puta I know pulling in $500-$1000/ week. She was worried because she was two months behind on her $125/ mo Tecate apartment. I asked what the problem was and she said she is a woman and needs shoes, wigs, makeup, and the list went on. She doesn't WANT such things, she NEEDS such things. Not concept of savings or budgeting.
You nailed it. As long as the place is full and making money, they don't care if the daily visitors are happy or not.You make a good point. Especially vegas. The regulars or locals to vegas know the treasure island and Venetian palazzo don't charge for parking and go there. The tourists or 2 times a year person doesn't care about paying for parking.
60% of Americans don't have 500 in savings. This article is recent. You would think with all that stimulus money they would have savings. https://www.cbs19news.com/story/34248451/6-in-10-americans-dont-have-500-in-savings.
I was able to get that flight for under $40. There may have been tax or fees that pushed it over.
Dude there are flights from Tijuana to some cities under $20.
1. I would not pay.
2. If I did pay I dgaf about their schedule. They getting the lowest cost flight I can find.
My favorita loca can be flown from her hometown to Tijuana for $23 round trip. She has never asked me to pay. She seems very happy with how our arrangements work.
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.But her a plane ticket, but tell her you want an 8 hour date with her. Then pick her up at the airport and take her to a love motel for 8 hours. Dude, it's not that difficult. You are over thinking this.
It is amazing that I see a man who is a bigger fool then me. Maybe he will keep throwing money at her in the hopes she finally falls in love with him? How does a guy like this end up rich? Inheritance?? This jist blows my mind, like the guy who bought a house for his puta girlfriend. She left that winner and moved in with her boyfriend. Damn guys wake the fuck up!
She posted earlier that someone already busted the windshield on her brand new G Wagon. She’s only had it for 5 days SMH.
For some reason the file is not attaching so here is a link to the picture.
https://ibb.co/725Pjk5
It says: “Today, like every day I woke up early to get ready for school and realized somebody busted my windshield. Every day I realize more and more that there are some very unhappy people out in the world. Happy people do not go around doing things like this. They do not cause harm towards others. May everyone have a beautiful day and life as well. ".
She posted earlier that someone already busted the windshield on her brand new G Wagon. Shes only had it for 5 days SMH.
For some reason the file is not attaching so here is a link to the picture.
https://ibb.co/725Pjk5
It says: Today, like every day I woke up early to get ready for school and realized somebody busted my windshield. Every day I realize more and more that there are some very unhappy people out in the world. Happy people do not go around doing things like this. They do not cause harm towards others. May everyone have a beautiful day and life as well. "Damn at a price tag of $171 k what is the price of a new windshield?
HK chica says she ran out of money and needs me to purchase an airplane ticket for her from Sinaloa to Tijuana otherwise she has to work at some nasty club in Culiacan. I look up prices of flights on volaris and they range from $125 o $300. How does anyone run completely out of money to the point that they cannot even afford an airplane ticket for $125 to $300. I call BS on this cry for help. Are these chicas really that financially irresponsible? How do you have a family with kids, own a house, wear fancy Gucci purses and have no savings whatsoever.She is probably just trying to get some extra $$, many of them are so irresponsible also, they get some money and they spent it all partying and stuff they don't need. Of course many of them run out of money but they are confident some sugar wallet guys will get them out of trouble and they just have to tell them "te amo".
BlackThought
08-12-22, 01:25
She posted earlier that someone already busted the windshield on her brand new G Wagon. Shes only had it for 5 days SMH.
For some reason the file is not attaching so here is a link to the picture.
https://ibb.co/725Pjk5
It says: Today, like every day I woke up early to get ready for school and realized somebody busted my windshield. Every day I realize more and more that there are some very unhappy people out in the world. Happy people do not go around doing things like this. They do not cause harm towards others. May everyone have a beautiful day and life as well. ".Damn a G wagon. She probably drives a nicer car than majority of us in this thread lmao.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-12-22, 01:34
What's the general approach to HK girls that don't do drinks and only go arriba. I've encountered a few who don't want to have drinks with me at all and say they only go to the room. I find them somewhat cold and their coldness is a turnoff.
Is HK club still packed with guys? I was there 2 months ago it was so packed. I want to go again but I don't like so many guys hanging around.
Cocr Brotheler
08-12-22, 07:27
Hearing about all these BBBJ's makes me nervous about wanting to ever have any GFE mouth kissing with any of these girls.So long as the 'last load' not resting in her mouth and her mouth fresh smell and she garbled listerine I don't care. Risk of transmission from saliva minimal to none. Now if she has mouth sores that is completely different issue. Is why I floss brush teeth etc. At least 3 hours before DFTK or DATY. Then my gums not open exposed to say a vagina that starting to bleed etc...
And of course if her vag or mouth stinky then very best to avoid. Stink test always rules!!!
So long as the 'last load' not resting in her mouth and her mouth fresh smell and she garbled listerine I don't care.....When I was a teen there was this guy in our group who said he gave himself bjs offloading in the process. Any monger who has a history of doing that would not mind who he DFKs.
Hate to give away my secret but go Thursday. Most of the best girls who work Fri and Sat are also there Thur. Lot less guys. Easily best day to go in terms of AVAILABLE hot locas.
Is HK club still packed with guys? I was there 2 months ago it was so packed. I want to go again but I don't like so many guys hanging around.
Aviator400
08-12-22, 19:40
What's the general approach to HK girls that don't do drinks and only go arriba. I've encountered a few who don't want to have drinks with me at all and say they only go to the room. I find them somewhat cold and their coldness is a turnoff.Others have told me that the girls don't want to waste their time with drinks. To me it is critical to interview them first.
Waved over a stunning redhead on a crowded weekend. She sat down and said, "You want arriba?" I replied, "no. " She said, "why not?" I replied, "because that should not have been the first sentence out of your mouth. " She got up and stormed off. Think I dodged a bullet.
SomeDude321
08-12-22, 20:38
Agreed, it's a screening out process. Plus, don't they have ficha quotas to meet? Isn't that what meseros use to justify their shakedown for 1 HR+ arribas? Buying a bucket of beer at rip off rate for alleged missed fichas opportunities?
To me it is critical to interview them first.
Is HK club still packed with guys? I was there 2 months ago it was so packed. I want to go again but I don't like so many guys hanging around.Just stay away from the prime times. HK can get a bit crazy busy after say 7 pm Friday and Saturday so just go earlier in the afternoon like 2 pm to 7 pm or something like that. It's kind of fun to see the numbers change as the girls pile into the club.
The Thursday tip is a good one. I need to check it out on a Thursday night!
-G.
Before COVID I was running into a number of stunners who would not do drinks or be disappointed in the drink offer.
Some mongers only want hot af latina pussy. They do not need the drink as they already see what they getting.
I need a loca. I can only evaluate that if I get a drink "interview". Same thing with my wingmen. The good locas will get rewarded for a good "interview" with my wingmen and I.
People on this board would be mad at how much one wingman pays for anal and a couple other things I am not going to blast.
Sex only girls missing out on this revenue.
Others have told me that the girls don't want to waste their time with drinks. To me it is critical to interview them first.
Waved over a stunning redhead on a crowded weekend. She sat down and said, "You want arriba?" I replied, "no. " She said, "why not?" I replied, "because that should not have been the first sentence out of your mouth. " She got up and stormed off. Think I dodged a bullet.
Mojo Bandit
08-13-22, 22:56
Cartel threatens weekend of mass violence in all of Northern Baja.
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/cartel-threatens-weekend-of-mass-violence-in-all-of-northern-baja/
On Cascadas, I understand the greed but the incompetence is hard to swallow, and since people are discussing the VIP Card anyway:
Restaurant Azul is very uncoordinated. * One time I was eating at the restaurant and wanted a drink. * The bartender had to physically come over, take my order, make the drink, come back, and then immediately gave me my bar tab because they're not connected to the restaurant-- and apparently it's utterly unforeseeable that someone might want to eat and drink at the same time. * I would have ordered a second drink but didn't want to start the process over. * So, fine, next time I sat at the bar and ordered food. * They're not coordinated in that direction either, as soon as the food comes the restaurant brings a tab and is expecting you to cash out. **.
Some of this, I'm sure, is driven because the tipping pools are separate but it's pretty absurd. ** They're definitely leaving money on the table because it turns out people do like to drink alcohol with their food which they are making difficult.
Checkout is also a complete mess. * I also drive to Tijuana and park my car with the valet. * If this was a real hotel, when I was ready to check out, I would simply call the valet, my car would be waiting for me, and I would go. **.
Not as Cascadas, I have to go down to the lobby, wait my turn, give them the white piece of paper, wait for someone to check out the room for damages, wait for them to make change. * And none of this is connected with the valet, so then I have to go down, wait for a valet to be available, and wait for the car to be ready. * What should be a two minute process usually takes me half an hour. * This is particularly strange since now they accept payment of the room by card-- if there's an issue just charge my card, like most other hotels do. * I'd understand if they were making money off this somehow but they're really not, it's just a trainwreck of a process for no reason.
The club itself is fine, but I wouldn't mind if the hotel had a better manager. There aren't rocket science concepts.
Yea I went there on Thursday as my first night in Tijuana. I was tired so I didn't fuck that girl I picked up with on Thursday night. She kinda hinted me to do her that night. I told her I was tired after like all day driving. So I met her again on Friday night but she seem like a completely different person. Thursday night we sat down, drank and talked. Friday night she got that "hurry the fuck up" attitude. It was not all too nice and I got knock on the door during the fuck too. I think I may try Sunday or Monday or Tuesday next time.
I'm not a newbie I been to HK more than a few times in the past 6, 7 times. I have never seen so many guys before. Even in 2018, I could easily picked up the girls I like and took them upstairs and nobody knocked on the door. Oh well. Everything changes I understand. No countries for middle class guys who want cheap easy sex.
I heard that there more some attacks in multiple cities in Baja now. Embassy told all the people to shelter in place now. I think that is a good time to go to HK now hahahaha!
Yea I went there on Thursday as my first night in Tijuana. I was tired so I didn't fuck that girl I picked up with on Thursday night. She kinda hinted me to do her that night. I told her I was tired after like all day driving. So I met her again on Friday night but she seem like a completely different person. Thursday night we sat down, drank and talked. Friday night she got that "hurry the fuck up" attitude. It was not all too nice and I got knock on the door during the fuck too. I think I may try Sunday or Monday or Tuesday next time.
I'm not a newbie I been to HK more than a few times in the past 6, 7 times. I have never seen so many guys before. Even in 2018, I could easily picked up the girls I like and took them upstairs and nobody knocked on the door. Oh well. Everything changes I understand. No countries for middle class guys who want cheap easy sex.Yah bro she was itching to make you blow your load as fast as you can so she could be off with the next john. If you offered her like $500 or more for the whole night I bet she would have been nicer LOL. These girls are money makers especially if they are somewhat good looking, too many horny guys that want to blow a load. Friday and Saturday is always like this, that's why Monday to Thursday is the best. The same girls on the weekend show up on Wednesday and Thursday, they are forced to work 5 days a week or they get a fat fine.
DramaFree11
08-15-22, 02:58
On Cascadas, I understand the greed but the incompetence is hard to swallow, and since people are discussing the VIP Card anyway:
Restaurant Azul is very uncoordinated. * One time I was eating at the restaurant and wanted a drink. * The bartender had to physically come over, take my order, make the drink, come back, and then immediately gave me my bar tab because they're not connected to the restaurant-- and apparently it's utterly unforeseeable that someone might want to eat and drink at the same time. * I would have ordered a second drink but didn't want to start the process over. * So, fine, next time I sat at the bar and ordered food. * They're not coordinated in that direction either, as soon as the food comes the restaurant brings a tab and is expecting you to cash out. **.
Some of this, I'm sure, is driven because the tipping pools are separate but it's pretty absurd. ** They're definitely leaving money on the table because it turns out people do like to drink alcohol with their food which they are making difficult.
Checkout is also a complete mess. * I also drive to Tijuana and park my car with the valet. * If this was a real hotel, when I was ready to check out, I would simply call the valet, my car would be waiting for me, and I would go. **.
Not as Cascadas, I have to go down to the lobby, wait my turn, give them the white piece of paper, wait for someone to check out the room for damages, wait for them to make change. * And none of this is connected with the valet, so then I have to go down, wait for a valet to be available, and wait for the car to be ready. * What should be a two minute process usually takes me half an hour. * This is particularly strange since now they accept payment of the room by card-- if there's an issue just charge my card, like most other hotels do. * I'd understand if they were making money off this somehow but they're really not, it's just a trainwreck of a process for no reason.
The club itself is fine, but I wouldn't mind if the hotel had a better manager. There aren't rocket science concepts.I completely disagree. HK, Cascadas and Azul are fun, and decently run. Is it perfect, no, but you can have a great time. You have to have realistic expectations. This Strip bar in Mxico, have fun and do not complain. If you do not like it go to Adelitas.
Lakeside32
08-15-22, 13:18
Was planning to visit Labor Day Weekend after a year and a half hiatus. The SoCal news reports are acting as if all hell has broken out and Americans are running for the dear lives down there. Did Anybody witness anything beyond the norm themselves??
Captain Solo
08-15-22, 19:08
US consulate in Tijuana suggests shelter in place.
Safest place in Mexico is 8th floor in Hotel Cascada with a rotation of hot, young girls from Hong Kong club.
HK chicas can beat the shit out of any cartel's cholos to protect their monger honeys.
Was planning to visit Labor Day Weekend after a year and a half hiatus. The SoCal news reports are acting as if all hell has broken out and Americans are running for the dear lives down there. Did Anybody witness anything beyond the norm themselves??Should be back to normal well before Labor Day Weekend. It does seem not to be escalating or getting worse. The media likes to exaggerate things for good ratings.
US consulate in Tijuana suggests shelter in place.
Safest place in Mexico is 8th floor in Hotel Cascada with a rotation of hot, young girls from Hong Kong club.
HK chicas can beat the shit out of any cartel's cholos to protect their monger honeys.I got to admit. When HK was kicking everyone out and some of the chicas were already on the street trying to get a uber, I thought about grabbing a chica and telling her that it was the end of the world, and we can go up to a room, order room service, and fortify the doors. Then I came to my sense and realize that I better beat everyone back to the border before buildings start to accidentally catch fire.
AmericanPi
08-16-22, 14:06
Should be back to normal well before Labor Day Weekend. It does seem not to be escalating or getting worse. The media likes to exaggerate things for good ratings.Respectfully disagree. When a city, or a few cities, call a curfew it's a big deal. Commerce stops and it sends a message to the population that they should be scared right now. That's not news puffery.
To the cartels credit, they realized that they don't need to fight the army to score. They just need to cause havoc. It sends the message that they can do that anytime they want and never once need to enter a gunfight with the army to score a victory.
Everything will have probably died down by then. Also it was the military that wanted the curfew placed and something tells me that the alley and the businesses along it have some affiliation with the cartel. So I don't see them deciding to burn things up on their own turf. This is more of a disruption and fear tactic in the areas outside of their typical turf areas that is there to generate fear and cause the government to back down and release the cartel guys they took (just as they did when they got the sinoloan guys a couple of years ago and the government backed down and let them go).
Was planning to visit Labor Day Weekend after a year and a half hiatus. The SoCal news reports are acting as if all hell has broken out and Americans are running for the dear lives down there. Did Anybody witness anything beyond the norm themselves??
Respectfully disagree. When a city, or a few cities, call a curfew it's a big deal. Commerce stops and it sends a message to the population that they should be scared right now. That's not news puffery.
To the cartels credit, they realized that they don't need to fight the army to score. They just need to cause havoc. It sends the message that they can do that anytime they want and never once need to enter a gunfight with the army to score a victory.Just for the sake of accuracy, the cartel "imposed" the curfew. The city of Tijuana did not.
See my post in the Crime thread, where this discussion belongs.
Respectfully disagree. When a city, or a few cities, call a curfew it's a big deal. Commerce stops and it sends a message to the population that they should be scared right now. That's not news puffery.
To the cartels credit, they realized that they don't need to fight the army to score. They just need to cause havoc. It sends the message that they can do that anytime they want and never once need to enter a gunfight with the army to score a victory.This weekend was simply a show of force. Nothing tragically bad happened. YES commerce was affected which always sucks but from a violence perspective this was nothing just a flexing of muscles. If they start shooting up clubs and fire bombing restaurants then it is game over. I doubt it will get there. Too much money at stake and the repercussions from the military would be fierce.
There is a margin of checks and balances the Cartels and the Govt have an agreement on. This IMO is what you got this weekend. Violence but just enough violence nothing too extreme. Just to keep the parameters in check.
Personally I love when Tijuana gets dangerous. Less gringos is always a plus in my book.
AmericanPi
08-16-22, 22:58
Just for the sake of accuracy, the cartel "imposed" the curfew. The city of Tijuana did not.Your point is well taken and more than semantic.
But still, the towns accepted and abided by the curfew. Put another way, they were told to cease normal life operations under threat of violence, and they considered that threat credible enough that they listened to the commands. That means something.
Think of what it would take to get you to abide by a curfew that was not officially sanctioned. What would it say about your life circumstances if a criminal enterprise could tell you to stay indoors, and everyone felt compelled to listen?
I was at the cinema when everything started. Someone told us that people were setting cars on fire and we headed home. The Facebook curfew was for another city I think (Juarez or Chihuahua, not sure, but most people posted it was wrong city). Lots of traffic and they closed businesses down. Next day, Saturday night we went to a swingers bar called Escobar near Caliente casino. Some whale was giving free BJs and getting gang banged. Next door was Deja Vu's 6th anniversary party and decorated nicely with free welcome beverage. The cost of entry was $5. It was nice and food was decent. Didn't see too many guys going arriba. I noticed a pool table in the front that you can rent by the hour. The next day went to Pockets and it usually closes at 2 am, but told by government to shut by 12 am. I was told HK was shut down. Not sure if they are truly cartel owned as other places stayed open and would imagine cartel owned businesses would not gaf. Overall good weekend, less traffic for sure, but still fun to be had and good food. Friendly bros offering beers from their cubetas and fist bumping watching latinas is always great. Glad most people stayed home as clubs had more room to breath and ladies were still out as you've got to keep the dinero flowing. Stay safe and have fun!
Respectfully disagree. When a city, or a few cities, call a curfew it's a big deal. Commerce stops and it sends a message to the population that they should be scared right now. That's not news puffery.
To the cartels credit, they realized that they don't need to fight the army to score. They just need to cause havoc. It sends the message that they can do that anytime they want and never once need to enter a gunfight with the army to score a victory.People who read the news enough already knew the cartel runs Mexico. Similar to special interest groups in USA. The politicians do what they have to to stay alive in USA to not have looters at their house. Very few USA decisions are made in best interest of the majority of the people. Even the Mexican president has always said he has no beef with the cartel. He doesn't want that smoke. Criminals can do anything they don't follow laws. It's like American cities, the police stay away from a lot of areas, as they can not survive drama or shootouts with criminals. Not long term anyway. It's why the stood and watched the looters burn myc down a few years ago.
I was at the cinema when everything started. Someone told us that people were setting cars on fire and we headed home. The Facebook curfew was for another city I think (Juarez or Chihuahua, not sure, but most people posted it was wrong city). Lots of traffic and they closed businesses down. Next day, Saturday night we went to a swingers bar called Escobar near Caliente casino. Some whale was giving free BJs and getting gang banged. Next door was Deja Vu's 6th anniversary party and decorated nicely with free welcome beverage. The cost of entry was $5. It was nice and food was decent. Didn't see too many guys going arriba. I noticed a pool table in the front that you can rent by the hour. The next day went to Pockets and it usually closes at 2 am, but told by government to shut by 12 am. I was told HK was shut down. Not sure if they are truly cartel owned as other places stayed open and would imagine cartel owned businesses would not gaf. Overall good weekend, less traffic for sure, but still fun to be had and good food. Friendly bros offering beers from their cubetas and fist bumping watching latinas is always great. Glad most people stayed home as clubs had more room to breath and ladies were still out as you've got to keep the dinero flowing. Stay safe and have fun!Nice to see that you didn't get freaked out and ditch your girl to go back to the US. For only living in Tijuana for a year it seems you have adapted well. I can't help but wonder if this latest issue made you consider trying to get her a Visa more if you haven't already began that process.
The only thing I saw about HK being opened on Saturday was what they posted on Twitter that they were open and would of been surprised if they were closed. Even the Beach Fest in Rosarito went ahead as scheduled. I did see the concert at the Tijuana Fair was cancelled.
Interesting story about going to the swingers club, I've known some strange guys over my years visiting Tijuana that enjoyed gang bangs and other activities but never heard anyone mention a swingers bar in Tijuana, I guess I just assumed everyone would go to the Zona if they were looking for that. Hopefully your inbox doesn't get over run with weirdos trying to hookup with you and your girl. LOL.
Just got back from my second Tijuana visit. Drove down yesterday around 3 pm, horrible idea. Sat in traffic for 3 hours trying to get to the border. Eventually got there and parked in the lot behind Carolin Shoe's. Nothing seemed dangerous when I walked across. I went to the pharmacy across the street from where you first walk and went to the ATM inside. It has a HSBC ATM and I was able to withdrawal mexican pesos. It was recommended to me to use pesos as you can save some money. Plus the bank account I was using rebates all ATM fees so it was a no brainer.
Got a cab down to HK for 100 pesos. Bought some of those street tacos at the corner and walked around eating. It was still daylight out and it did not seem dangerous at all. A bunch of people were out and nobody was hiding away. I went into HK around 7 pm and walked around checking everyone out. After 30 ish minutes I found this tattood girl named Vainilla who I brought upstairs. She asked for 100 usd but I counted with 1800 pesos and she accepted. Paid 620 pesos for the room and got my free drinks. Last time I did not know about the drinks so it was nice using that to my advantage this time. She rode me good and I finished in around 20 minutes. We talked and showered and she went on her way. I have a goal now to get each girls number so I got hers and have been messaging her on whatsapp. When she went for the condom I asked how much for BBFS and she was thinking. I ended up saying no to BBFS in the moment but I will text her next time and see.
After that I went outside and had a smoke break for a bit. Needed a breather and some water. I needed more time to chill so I went into Las Chavelas and sat at the bar. I had some decent alone time there but I still had people coming up and trying to upsell me. I am still wondering on a place where you can sit in peace with a drink and chill without being talked to, maybe I should get a hotel room? Idk.
Las Chavelas started to get more packed so I fleed to the 3rd story of HK. Nobody was up there except a few girls and waiters. I got another drink and sat at the booth by myself for a bit. Then the girls started approaching me again. I told a 2 of them I wasn't ready but then a third girl came. Her name was Krewella and she spoke very good english. Her english was much better than any of the other bar girls I have met. I had a good conversation with her and wanted to get her a drink. I learned that buying a drink for the girl and feeling them out is a great way to find chemistry. I really enjoyed our conversation and ended up taking her upstairs for 1800 pesos. She was half GFE half not GFE. Maybe she played with me, idk. But I had a good time with her and got her number also.
I went to the sushi place by mermaids and ate there. Was a decent place to sit and chill. I was super tired and barely even came during my second girl so I decided I was going to head home. I walked into Chicago and hung out there for 20 minutes. It was nice in there, nobody came up the entire time I was there. After 20 minutes in Chicago, I grabbed another cab for 100 pesos to the border.
Overall I had a great time, it was not dangerous at all. I just wish I didn't sit in traffic for so long on my drive there. I might have to leave around noon next time or late at night. Also, I tried those Okamoto condoms from Japan called the zero ones. My penis size is average but that condom would not fit at all. I hear they have a large version so I might try those. For now I bought the okamoto 004 since they allow in the US. Anyways, I plan on going back for Halloween. I might sneak in a trip before then, we will see.
Just got back from my second Tijuana visit. Drove down yesterday around 3 pm, horrible idea. Sat in traffic for 3 hours trying to get to the border.
Got a cab down to HK for 100 pesos.
. I am still wondering on a place where you can sit in peace with a drink and chill without being talked to, maybe I should get a hotel room? Idk..Take the trolley from one of the stations that has a parking lot. You can park for free for 24 hrs and you avoid the 3 HR wait in traffic.
You can take HK Limo to / from border w just tips to driver. Much nicer, and safer, than a standard taxi.
If you are doing two HK gals you are already spending almost as much a regular room. So you might as well get a room where you can relax. And you can experiment with a nice street gal too.
Take the trolley from one of the stations that has a parking lot. You can park for free for 24 hrs and you avoid the 3 HR wait in traffic.
You can take HK Limo to / from border w just tips to driver. Much nicer, and safer, than a standard taxi.
If you are doing two HK gals you are already spending almost as much a regular room. So you might as well get a room where you can relax. And you can experiment with a nice street gal too.Hey rambo thanks for the reply.
I am traveling from OC so I don't think I can take the trolley but I know there is transport out of Santa Ana. I might consider that if it means I can avoid that traffic!
Am I able to take the HK limo if I walk past the turnstile to the pharmacy across the street? I plan on using the ATM inside the pharmacy to get pesos and try to get a bit cheaper prices on everything.
Yes I agree on the room, I should have bought the VIP card my first visit and gotten a room each time as I would have saved money and had a place to chill. Next time I go I plan on buying the card!
Take the trolley from one of the stations that has a parking lot. You can park for free for 24 hrs and you avoid the 3 HR wait in traffic.
You can take HK Limo to / from border w just tips to driver. Much nicer, and safer, than a standard taxi.
If you are doing two HK gals you are already spending almost as much a regular room. So you might as well get a room where you can relax. And you can experiment with a nice street gal too.If your going to drive to a trolley parking lot, you really need to be in San diego on i5 passing the downtown area, Italy by 230 pm, 2 pm on Fridays. Sat Sunday anytime. That's if you hate traffic. People living in San diego got a reprieve from covid, even to this day the traffic is not what it was as many people still work from home. If I can't get moving by 230 pm, personally, I wait till 7 pm or I only park at old Town Station. It takes an hour on the trolley from old Town Station. If there's a Padres game, a concert at petco.
Park, or comic con, then a parking spot may take time. With gas prices I tried to take trolley a third of time from old Town but its tough comming home in morning sitting on trolley little hung over and 4 hrs sleep since I need to be back in San diego by 8 am.
Hey rambo thanks for the reply.
I am traveling from OC so I don't think I can take the trolley but I know there is transport out of Santa Ana. I might consider that if it means I can avoid that traffic!
Am I able to take the HK limo if I walk past the turnstile to the pharmacy across the street? I plan on using the ATM inside the pharmacy to get pesos and try to get a bit cheaper prices on everything.
Yes I agree on the room, I should have bought the VIP card my first visit and gotten a room each time as I would have saved money and had a place to chill. Next time I go I plan on buying the card!Is Pedwest open now? If your talking the East gate and not Pedwest then no, you just go out of the turnstile and stay to the right and do a bit of a uturn on the side walk and the HK office will be on your right in about 100 feet. Can coordinate the taxi from there.
If your talking Pedwest (didn't think it was open yet). Then you cross the street after the turnstile. You can walk past the pharmacy and keep going east on that side walk near the car ramp that goes over the river pass. . then HK office is on your right side on that little sidewalk about 100 feet from the turnstile.
-Greg.
Just got back from my second Tijuana visit. Drove down yesterday around 3 pm, horrible idea. Sat in traffic for 3 hours trying to get to the border. Eventually got there and parked in the lot behind Carolin Shoe's. Nothing seemed dangerous when I walked across. I went to the pharmacy across the street from where you first walk and went to the ATM inside. It has a HSBC ATM and I was able to withdrawal Mexican pesos. It was recommended to me to use pesos as you can save some money. Plus the bank account I was using rebates all ATM fees so it was a no brainier.
Got a cab down to HK for 100 pesos. Bought some of those street tacos at the corner and walked around eating. It was still daylight out and it did not seem dangerous at all. A bunch of people were out and nobody was hiding away. I went into HK around 7 pm and walked around checking everyone out. After 30 ish minutes I found this tattood girl named Vainilla who I brought upstairs. She asked for 100 usd but I counted with 1800 pesos and she accepted. Paid 620 pesos for the room and got my free drinks. Last time I did not know about the drinks so it was nice using that to my advantage this time. She rode me good and I finished in around 20 minutes. We talked and showered and she went on her way. I have a goal now to get each girls number so I got hers and have been messaging her on whatsapp. When she went for the condom I asked how much for BBFS and she was thinking. I ended up saying no to BBFS in the moment but I will text her next time and see.
After that I went outside and had a smoke break for a bit. Needed a breather and some water. I needed more time to chill so I went into Las Chavelas and sat at the bar. I had some decent alone time there but I still had people coming up and trying to upsell me. I am still wondering on a place where you can sit in peace with a drink and chill without being talked to, maybe I should get a hotel room? Idk.Mr CloneO. My favorite place to chill is Azul's restaurant on the alley about 30 feet east from the entrance of HK. When you walk in the door walk up the stairs to the 2nd floor and then out to the balcony. Ask any door person down there and they can direct you if needed. It looks over the alley with all the hookers on the street. Food is good enough. I just love the ambiance up there and I have taken a street girl up there after fucking the hell out of her and we just had a drink and she helped me with my spanish for a few extra bucks. What a sweet girl she was.
-G.
Raid! HK was raided Saturday night by cops with SWAT looking guys acting as security in the front carrying M4 a1's. Odd that they were wearing ski masks to protect their identity and wearing tacticool gear. I was expecting an exciting take down of a dangerous Narco.
But it turned out that they were doing a surprise check for underaged girls. At least that was what I was told when I asked a couple of waiters. That is a lot of firepower to check IDs so you can come to your own conclusions to was why cops were making a visit to HK on a Saturday night since Sunday is their traditional bust day.
DonCarlos1234
08-21-22, 21:09
Raid! HK was raided Saturday night by cops with SWAT looking guys acting as security in the front carrying M4 a1's. Odd that they were wearing ski masks to protect their identity and wearing tacticool gear. I was expecting an exciting take down of a dangerous Narco.
But it turned out that they were doing a surprise check for underaged girls. At least that was what I was told when I asked a couple of waiters. That is a lot of firepower to check IDs so you can come to your own conclusions to was why cops were making a visit to HK on a Saturday night since Sunday is their traditional bust day.I was there during July raid. About 20 police cars & national guard troops. Tactical gear. I decided to go upstairs to avoid them. I doubt they will tell anyone their real reasons for the visits. The cartels visit hktj all the time. Be careful.
I am sure anything can be faked anywhere but I do know there were two street girls who I have taken up to cascades and then one day all the sudden they do not have the ID anymore to go up there. One eventually got her ID again and was able to go up again but it is not like every girl knows how to get the needed documentation.
Got a bunch of BS yadi yadi yada from both of them why they could not get their card. Who knows the truth.
According to today's paper the cops began the raids on Friday and I'd imagine into Saturday as well. They were looking for girls working without health cards which is pretty normal in the Zona but yes they do seem to be more armed than necessary. In the times I've been in the bar when this happens the girls quickly try to run out the back area of the club at least in AB. The raid in Friday said that they found 27 girls working without proper cards or not up to date. It wasn't clear if it was those working on the street or in clubs, just mentioned that they visited various clubs, so maybe they came back on Saturday thinking that the girls would think the coast was clear since they came the night before. I know AB to be less strict on the health card so maybe they got hit the worse. In general the health card is a joke. The girls know ways to get around it or pay someone to give them a clean bill. The whole time with my ex she never had to visit a health clinic to work and of all the girls I would hang out with I only took 1 to the health clinic for he check up.
I also never heard of Sunday being a special day to do raids. Would be interested as to where you heard this or what experience you had. Sundays are the main day that I visit and I can't remember the last time I have seen a raid.
Mr CloneO. My favorite place to chill is Azul's restaurant on the alley about 30 feet east from the entrance of HK. When you walk in the door walk up the stairs to the 2nd floor and then out to the balcony. Ask any door person down there and they can direct you if needed. It looks over the alley with all the hookers on the street. Food is good enough. I just love the ambiance up there and I have taken a street girl up there after fucking the hell out of her and we just had a drink and she helped me with my spanish for a few extra bucks. What a sweet girl she was..Awesome I will have to check it out. I appreciate the advice!
Is Pedwest open now? If your talking the East gate and not Pedwest then no, you just go out of the turnstile and stay to the right and do a bit of a uturn on the side walk and the HK office will be on your right in about 100 feet. Can coordinate the taxi from there.
If your talking Pedwest (didn't think it was open yet). Then you cross the street after the turnstile. You can walk past the pharmacy and keep going east on that side walk near the car ramp that goes over the river pass. . then HK office is on your right side on that little sidewalk about 100 feet from the turnstile..To be honest I am not sure if it was pedwest or pedeast. Whatever border crossing is near Jack in the box and Carlin Shoes, right where the 5 freeway ends. I will have to use the HK limo though next time. I did see it on Thursday when I went but I figured I couldn't go back after I passed the turnstile. It makes sense that I can you-turn and go to the limo that way.
Captain Solo
08-22-22, 01:38
Policias may have used the check underaged putas and health card as excuses, but with that much muscles and fire power, they were more likely looking for cartels guys, expecting a gun fight if a few were found. Fully armed troops have been patrolling La Zona for years. Have not heard if they arrested any bad guys.
One night I was sitting at the bar in HK next to a nice, clean young guy. Later on I found out he was Ovidio de Guzman. He was sitting motionlessly, high on something; his eyes were fixated on the stage whether there were naked strippers on it or not. I was scanning the club. He did not have any body guards with him that night.
I was in Las Pulgas one night. People were dancing like crazy when the music stopped and all lights went on. Polciias were checking everyone's paper but they left us alone. They hand cuffed a couple guys on that dance floor.
Raid! HK was raided Saturday night by cops with SWAT looking guys acting as security in the front carrying M4 a1's. Odd that they were wearing ski masks to protect their identity and wearing tacticool gear. I was expecting an exciting take down of a dangerous girls. ay.I was in the club as it happened, just the health inspectors checking for chicas having their up to date health card, with a police escort. The hiding of one's identity seems pretty common in Mexico.
I hadnt gone in 2 weeks but one of my regulars texted me she's back in town so I'm going to go see her in a couple hours at the club. Hoping not to arrive in the middle of a raid LOL.
Can anybody else confirm that the health cards are a joke?Even if they weren't a joke she could catch something unnoticed between tests.
I am sure anything can be faked anywhere but I do know there were two street girls who I have taken up to cascades and then one day all the sudden they do not have the ID anymore to go up there. One eventually got her ID again and was able to go up again but it is not like every girl knows how to get the needed documentation.
Got a bunch of BS yadi yadi yada from both of them why they could not get their card. Who knows the truth.Well in all my years in visiting Tijuana I have never gone with a street girl or had a desire to. From what I have heard and read is that most go to their particular motel and some will go to others motels. Now the ID that you mentioned is that their normal ID that they didn't have or does Cascada actually ask to see the girls health card? If they actually ask for a girls health card HK and Cascadas might actually be stricter with girls being current on the health card. I know it was mentioned by Jackie that a girl said she had to pay $100 for paper work and tests to work at HK. $100 seemed high but HK might have particular DR that they trust to make sure the girls are clean since an STD being spread around the club wouldn't be good for business.
In general the health card is a joke. The girls know ways to get around it or pay someone to give them a clean bill. The whole time with my ex she never had to visit a health clinic to work and of all the girls I would hang out with I only took 1 to the health clinic for he check up.
Can anybody else confirm that the health cards are a joke?Sorry to burst your bubble but I think this has been discussed before. For one like was just mentioned even if the girl is clean she could catch something the next day and not know until another month. I think we all know the risks we take with this hobby and would recommend to all that visit Tijuana to be as safe as possible and use protection. Another thing about the health card being a joke is if you asked a girl to see her card who would even know what t look for and be able to catch if it is even real. That trust has to be put on the club they work at and I'm sure many could care less.
With this recent raid and girls that were found to be working without the proper health card they should let it be known what bars each girl worked at so we as customers know what clubs are more concerned about the health of the workers and clients. They could even set up a rating system like they do with restaurants in the US. LOL.
After one of my HK GFE "novias" reached out (20 year old spinner) I had set up our date for 9 pm. Well, I didn't end up arriving until a little past 10. Of course when I got there I didn't rush right to her, I had to survey the land and see what was on the menu for the night. Not as many girls as other Sunday nights but still plenty of options. It was encouraging seeing a couple guys getting some nice make out sessions at their tables with their ladies for a change this time around. Was trying to look for my girl but she was nowhere to be found. She was probably upstairs getting pounded I thought to myself SMH. I saw the MILF I had a great session with a couple weeks ago and was tempted to just bang her again. I then texted my girl to see where she was at but it took her 20 minutes to respond. I was like what the hell? She probably is getting pounded. So I ask where she's at since she wasn't at her usual spot and she just says "right here" WTF? Right where? I don't see you anywhere *****. Again, she takes long to respond again and after 10 minutes I spot her in a corner with a Chinese businessman type and she's giving him an amazing lap dance. No wonder this chick is taking a long time to answer my texts. WTF I told this girl I was on the way, she should have been waiting on me sitting quietly by herself. (I'm joking if you can't catch the sarcasm.) So I position myself out of her view and pray that the Chinese guy eventually leaves. Unfortunately this fucking guy bought her a couple more fichas. I was tired of standing around so I spotted an older guy (who if it's one of you let me know haha) at a big ass booth with a chica ordering drinks. Since the booth was way too big for only the both of them I kindly asked if he minded if I sat at the other end while I wait on somebody. He was kind enough to say sure have a seat. The guy even offered me to play with his chica and feel her up which was super nice of him but I politely declined and told him I didn't want to intrude on his action. Nice guy. So there I am waiting like a fucking cuck on my girl as she's grinding away on this Chinese guy. I thought to myself fuck this I'm going to go grab the MILF I fucked last time. But then I calmed down a little and thought well hell, if this guy is doing her the favor of accumulating her ficha requirements then let him knock himself out. It's not like this girl hasn't probably been banging guys all damn day, but we like to pretend like we're the only ones that are with them for the day haha. Well, about 10 minutes later I see them start heading upstairs. What the fuck? Before I lost my stack again, I rationalized it by thinking well damn I can't blame her especially as these older Chinese guys are very generous, she's probably going to make $150-200 off this one guy alone which is a hell of a lot more than what I'm going to give her. So I have myself a time limit of how long I was going to wait for this girl and if she didn't come back down or reach out again I would just go with the MILF. I shit you not when I tell you guys that 15 minutes later she was back downstairs so this guy must have shot his load within 5, 10 minutes at the most. Nice for me, and for her I guess LOL. So I let her roam for a minute and then surprised her from behind. I joking said what the fuck, you betray me for that guy? And she laughed and said I'm sorry he just wouldn't let me go and he finished so quickly anyways, it was literally nothing. I thought oh boy this chick is lucky she's hot and I already know she's more than going to make it up to me and boy oh boy she did. She was actually high out of her damn mind which made her a little hornier than usual. This girl loves to fuck. There's nothing better than a hooker who actually enjoys the sex and isn't only in it for the money but also for the pleasure whenever she can get it. Afterwards I asked her what was up with the raid Saturday night but she said she actually didn't make it in that day.
So after we said our goodbyes back downstairs at the club I literally mistakenly ran right into the MILF I was talking about earlier. She gave me a kiss and asked if I was going to take her arriba again. I sheepishly told her that I had just came back from banging this other girl and she was like oh wow you're cheating on me LOL. But she said it in a jokingly way. I told her yeah sorry, I hadn't seen you before (lie). I then told her I had go visit the restroom and she said ok. So after a few minutes I start pondering if I should just go ahead and bang this MILF now. But I knew it would be too soon and even if junior was able to return to full attention, it would take way too long for me to cum again at this point, so what's the point of a session without cumming. Since I drove into Tijuana this time and I don't have sentri I looked up the waiting time at the border and to my surprise it said 10 minutes. What the hell? I better head back to the border ASAP I thought. But then my little head started thinking over my big head and a thought came into my mind to grab the MILF for a private dance where I knew I could get to at least third base with her and if I'm lucky, get a few pumps in for junior. So I tracked her down and told her l would buy a private dance from her at club miami. She perked up and said sure. She then gave me an awesome lap dance which turned into a big make out session and I got to third base and what do you know, junior was at full fucking attention. She kept pressuring me to take her arriba and I seriously thought about it. For a moment I was proud of myself like wow look at me, first I'm banging the crap out of a pretty 20 year old and now I'm with this amazingly fit 43 year old woman, I'm covering the entire spectrum here. But back to reality, this time my big head thought over my little head and I figured I better get back to the border, who knows how long this 10 minute wait is going to last. So I said goodbye to my MILF and promised her next time I came to the club I would definitely take her arriba and she was cool with it. I went to my car and headed to the border skeptically wondering about this 10 minute wait and I'll be damned if it wasn't an exact 10 minute wait. I thanked my lucky stars and headed home.
Captain Solo
08-22-22, 12:34
Policias and Guardia Nationale raided HK last Saturday, presumably to look for underaged putas.
Tijuana's Mayor Monserrat Caballero Ramírez is a tough woman. She's hitting the cartel where it hurts, raiding cartel's club. But no cartel guys were arrested in the club. Only 27 putas were arrested with no health cards. All she could do was to stop HK to make money for an hour. She's also inviting the public to rat on cartels.
Did you see any of your BB GFs arrested in the pics?
They detect 27 sex workers without a health card.
* The City Council of Tijuana carries out operations in the north zone.
Tijuana. - The City Council of Tijuana presented before the Municipal Judge 27 sex workers, who lacked a health card to work in the north zone during an operation aimed at preventing sexually transmitted diseases, reported Jorge Salazar Miramontes.
The Secretary of Government commented that on the instruction of Monserrat Caballero Ramírez, Municipal President, the Municipal Inspection and Verification Directorate undertook actions in the tolerance zone during Friday night.
"Various establishments were visited randomly and we found that a total of 27 women did not have their document issued by Municipal Medical Services, so they were referred to the competent authority. ".
Salazar Miramontes mentioned that it is a priority for the XXIV Tijuana City Council to ensure public health, highlighting that although the number of sex workers who do not have their document to work is minimal, they will continue with the operations in various points of Tijuana.
During the work, the Ministry of Public Security and Citizen Protection supported the actions, strictly adhering to the regulations on the matter and respecting the human rights of the people.
Finally, the Tijuana City Council invited the population to report alleged anomalies through their social networks and official channels.
Use spaces and paragraphs. No one is going to read this massive blob of text.
After one of my HK GFE "novias" reached out (20 year old spinner) I had set up our date for 9 pm. Well, I didn't end up arriving until a little past 10. Of course when I got there I didn't rush right to her, I had to survey the land and see what was on the menu for the night. Not as many girls as other Sunday nights but still plenty of options. It was encouraging seeing a couple guys getting some nice make out sessions at their tables with their ladies for a change this time around. Was trying to look for my girl but she was nowhere to be found. She was probably upstairs getting pounded I thought to myself SMH. I saw the MILF I had a great session with a couple weeks ago and was tempted to just bang her again. I then texted my girl to see where she was at but it took her 20 minutes to respond. I was like what the hell? She probably IS getting pounded. 🤦8205;9794;65039; So I ask where she's at since she wasn't at her usual spot and she just says "right here" WTF? Right where? I don't see you anywhere *****. Again, she takes long to respond again and after 10 minutes I spot her in a corner with a Chinese businessman type and she's giving him an amazing lap dance. No wonder this chick is taking a long time to answer my texts. WTF I told this girl I was on the way, she should have been waiting on me sitting quietly by herself. (I'm joking if you can't catch the sarcasm.) So I position myself out of her view and pray that the Chinese guy eventually leaves. Unfortunately this fucking guy bought her a couple more fichas. I was tired of standing around so I spotted an older guy (who if it's one of you let me know haha) at a big ass booth with a chica ordering drinks. Since the booth was way too big for only the both of them I kindly asked if he minded if I sitted at the other end while I wait on somebody. He was kind enough to say sure have a seat. The guy even offered me to play with his chica and feel her up which was super nice of him but I politely declined and told him I didn't want to intrude on his action. Nice guy. So there I am waiting like a fucking cuck on my girl as she's grinding away on this Chinese guy. I thought to myself fuck this I'm going to go grab the MILF I fucked last time. But then I calmed down a little and thought well hell, if this guy is doing her the favor of accumulating her ficha requirements then let him knock himself out. It's not like this girl hasn't probably been banging guys all damn day, but we like to pretend like we're the only ones that are with them for the day haha. Well, about 10 minutes later I see them start heading upstairs. WHAT THE FUCK!? Before I lost my stack again, I rationalized it by thinking well damn I can't blame her especially as these older Chinese guys are very generous, she's probably going to make $150-200 off this one guy alone which is a hell of a lot more than what I'm going to give her. So I have myself a time limit of how long I was going to wait for this girl and if she didn't come back down or reach out again I would just go with the MILF. I shit you not when I tell you guys that 15 minutes later she was back downstairs so this guy must have shot his load within 5, 10 minutes at the most. Nice for me, and for her I guess LOL. So I let her roam for a minute and then surprised her from behind. I joking said what the fuck, you betray me for THAT guy? And she laughed and said I'm sorry he just wouldn't let me go and he finished so quickly anyways, it was literally nothing. I thought oh boy this chick is lucky she's hot and I already know she's more than going to make it up to me and boy oh boy she did. She was actually high out of her damn mind which made her a little hornier than usual. This girl loves to fuck. There's nothing better than a hooker who actually enjoys the sex and isn't only in it for the money but also for the pleasure whenever she can get it. Afterwards I asked her what was up with the raid Saturday night but she said she actually didn't make it in that day.
So after we said our goodbyes back downstairs at the club I literally mistakenly ran right into the MILF I was talking about earlier. She gave me a kiss and asked if I was going to take her arriba again. I sheepishly told her that I had just came back from banging this other girl and she was like oh wow you're cheating on me LOL. But she said it in a jokingly way. I told her yeah sorry, I hadn't seen you before (lie). I then told her I had go visit the restroom and she said ok. So after a few minutes I start pondering if I should just go ahead and bang this MILF now. But I knew it would be too soon and even if junior was able to return to full attention, it would take way too long for me to cum again at this point, so what's the point of a session without cumming. Since I drove into Tijuana this time and I don't have sentri I looked up the waiting time at the border and to my surprise it said 10 minutes. What the hell? I better head back to the border ASAP I thought. But then my little head started thinking over my big head and a thought came into my mind to grab the MILF for a private dance where I knew I could get to at least third base with her and if I'm lucky, get a few pumps in for junior. So I tracked her down and told her l would buy a private dance from her at club miami. She perked up and said sure. She then gave me an awesome lap dance which turned into a big make out session and I got to third base and what do you know, junior was at full fucking attention. She kept pressuring me to take her arriba and I seriously thought about it. For a moment I was proud of myself like wow look at me, first I'm banging the crap out of a pretty 20 year old and now I'm with this amazingly fit 43 year old woman, I'm covering the entire spectrum here. But back to reality, this time my big head thought over my little head and I figured I better get back to the border, who knows how long this 10 minute wait is going to last. So I said goodbye to my MILF and promised her next time I came to the club I would definitely take her arriba and she was cool with it. I went to my car and headed to the border skeptically wondering about this 10 minute wait and I'll be damned if it wasn't an exact 10 minute wait. I thanked my lucky stars and headed home.
DonCarlos1234
08-23-22, 00:27
Policias may have used the check underaged putas and health card as excuses, but with that much muscles and fire power, they were more likely looking for cartels guys, expecting a gun fight if a few were found. Fully armed troops have been patrolling La Zona for years. Have not heard if they arrested any bad guys.
One night I was sitting at the bar in HK next to a nice, clean young guy. Later on I found out he was Ovidio de Guzman. He was sitting motionlessly, high on something; his eyes were fixated on the stage whether there were naked strippers on it or not. I was scanning the club. He did not have any body guards with him that night.
I was in Las Pulgas one night. People were dancing like crazy when the music stopped and all lights went on. Polciias were checking everyone's paper but they left us alone. They hand cuffed a couple guys on that dance floor.Back in the day when bathroom stalls were considered safe. A soldier busted in my door. Scared the be Jesus out of me. And 2 more accompanied him. Lived to tell about it. LOL It takes balls to go in Las Pulgas and hitting on a hot chick in there could be scary. (did that but never again).
After one of my HK GFE "novias" reached out (20 year old spinner) I had set up our date for 9 pm. Well, I didn't end up arriving until a little past 10. Of course when I got there I didn't rush right to her, I had to survey the land and see what was on the menu for the night. Not as many girls as other Sunday nights but still plenty of options. It was encouraging seeing a couple guys getting some nice make out sessions at their tables with their ladies for a change this time around. Was trying to look for my girl but she was nowhere to be found. She was probably upstairs getting pounded I thought to myself SMH. I saw the MILF I had a great session with a couple weeks ago and was tempted to just bang her again. I then texted my girl to see where she was at but it took her 20 minutes to respond. I was like what the hell? She probably IS getting pounded. 🤦8205;9794;65039; So I ask where she's at since she wasn't at her usual spot and she just says "right here" WTF? Right where? I don't see you anywhere *****. Again, she takes long to respond again and after 10 minutes I spot her in a corner with a Chinese businessman type and she's giving him an amazing lap dance. No wonder this chick is taking a long time to answer my texts. WTF I told this girl I was on the way, she should have been waiting on me sitting quietly by herself. (I'm joking if you can't catch the sarcasm.) It is good you kept your cool, I used to get more then a little jealous of one of my favs in HK in the past but I finally got over it. It isn't worth it as in the end they are hookers and sex is their office space to make money. I just learned to show up at 7 pm to be the "first dick of the shift" or I just waited for my turn or found another girl to bang if it took too long. Never a good ideal to take anything in the zona personal or think they are the only vagina in the zona willing to fuck you for some cash. Never be a sucker and don't believe any of their bullshit, got to keep your guard up on these sharks.
DonCarlos1234
08-24-22, 02:26
Another interesting thing I found out. I ended up talking to a driver for HK. Apparently, he picks up a lot of girls from the Tijuana airport and shuttles them to Cascadas. He was frustrated. He told me some girls turned around and flew back home, not wanting to take the job. (So a wasted trip for him.) But he said HK was having challenges recruiting girls now. I don't know this guy at all. But he was showing me his paperwork. He might have been telling the truth, for what it matters.The girls who go home instead of working. LOL those are the ones you want to meet.
DonCarlos1234
08-24-22, 02:41
I will be at Cascades Monday – Thursday next week. I want to see if I find anyone as desirable at the last girl I met there 2 weeks ago from Sinaloa. Guau! I offered to visit her and set a tentative date the first week in October (staying 4 nights) we'll tour Guadalajara, dinners, sex, and possible overnights together. Maybe only 2 nights together so I am free to do / meet others. She said YES. No specific money discussed yet. I am thinking 4-5 K pesos per day. Hotels there (4 stars or better) are ½ or less than of what you pay in Tijuana. Guess the gringos drive the prices up here. What do you guys think about 4-5 K in GDL?
I was there too. To say it was a "raid" is a bit of an overstatement. The only ones running around were the chicas. LOL Noteworthy, I was in VIP with 2 girls when the "raid" happened. One I've known for quite some time and the other a friend of hers that started HK just a few days ago. The friend did not have her health card and was sent packing
Another interesting thing I found out. I ended up talking to a driver for HK. Apparently, he picks up a lot of girls from the Tijuana airport and shuttles them to Cascadas. He was frustrated. He told me some girls turned around and flew back home, not wanting to take the job. (So a wasted trip for him.) But he said HK was having challenges recruiting girls now. I don't know this guy at all. But he was showing me his paperwork. He might have been telling the truth, for what it matters.Yea, definitely not a raid, LOL they let me out and then back in all the while it was going on.
As far as recruiting this was my first Saturday night of all 8 trips I've made, I wanted to see first hand all this top tier talent on Fri & Sat nights I keep missing with my usual Sunday. Thursday trips. I'm not sure if it was the violence from last week or a lot of girls have returned home with kids getting ready to go back to school but didn't notice a difference in talent from this Saturday to Sunday night. I did feel the overall talent wasn't as top notch as I have become accustomed to from HK but still no place ID rather be. LOL. I go back in 2 weeks so it will be interesting to compare talent.
Another interesting thing I found out. I ended up talking to a driver for HK. Apparently, he picks up a lot of girls from the Tijuana airport and shuttles them to Cascadas. He was frustrated. He told me some girls turned around and flew back home, not wanting to take the job. (So a wasted trip for him.) But he said HK was having challenges recruiting girls now. I don't know this guy at all. But he was showing me his paperwork. He might have been telling the truth, for what it matters.Seems odd girls would fly to Tijuana and not even work, most know what to expect and most have a friend that gives them the info and that they should try it. I could see HK having trouble getting girls to work due to the high price of living in Tijuana now and if the girls have to live in the club hotel they are stuck in the Zona 24/7. They could work in other parts of Mexico and maybe make a little less money but have better surroundings. Also the violence could scare some away.
I thought they all go to the same pink building on the end of street before entering the Zona. They get STD education from that location as well. Not sure they pay $100, but know the tests are like 500 pesos, unless it was a full panel test. I've seen the ticket. Not sure what they are exactly looking for, but USA A full panel is like $200-$300.I have no idea about a pink building, maybe that's something new. It's been some time since I lived in Tijuana and I'm sure since you live there now and your girl used to or is still working so I'd imagine you have more current info. The girl I took back in the day was in some other part of Tijuana since she lived in the Zona and I had to drive her to the place.
I am not sure about the price and what exactly they look for, I'd imagine basic stuff, HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia.
It is good you kept your cool, I used to get more then a little jealous of one of my favs in HK in the past but I finally got over it. It isn't worth it as in the end they are hookers and sex is their office space to make money. I just learned to show up at 7 pm to be the "first dick of the shift" or I just waited for my turn or found another girl to bang if it took too long. Never a good ideal to take anything in the zona personal or think they are the only vagina in the zona willing to fuck you for some cash. Never be a sucker and don't believe any of their bullshit, got to keep your guard up on these sharks.Yeah, I mean to be fair I did show up more than an hour late for our date so it would be unrealistic for me to expect her to do nothing in the meantime and just wait for me. Also like I mentioned later on in my post, it's not like these girls aren't getting pounded by other guys for the rest of the day that we aren't with them. It is what it is.
I will be at Cascades Monday Thursday next week. I want to see if I find anyone as desirable at the last girl I met there 2 weeks ago from Sinaloa. Guau! I offered to visit her and set a tentative date the first week in October (staying 4 nights) we'll tour Guadalajara, dinners, sex, and possible overnights together. Maybe only 2 nights together so I am free to do / meet others. She said YES. No specific money discussed yet. I am thinking 4-5 K pesos per day. Hotels there (4 stars or better) are or less than of what you pay in Tijuana. Guess the gringos drive the prices up here. What do you guys think about 4-5 K in GDL?If you think it is good then who cares, don't seems like it is too steep to me for TLN and DIA. Plus she can be like your guide too, it will be fun I imagine.
BrotherMouzone
08-24-22, 16:01
Yeah, I mean to be fair I did show up more than an hour late for our date so it would be unrealistic for me to expect her to do nothing in the meantime and just wait for me. Also like I mentioned later on in my post, it's not like these girls aren't getting pounded by other guys for the rest of the day that we aren't with them. It is what it is.Yeah I'm kind of stumped on why any dude would be jealous on any of these girls pounding other men when it's literally their job to fuck dudes for money LOL. I've seen a couple of my favorites go arriba with other guys and really could care less. Good for them IMO.
But what stumps me even more is the number of chicas who get jealous when they see customers they know go arriba with other chicas. Have had a few communicate displeasure with me after finding out I was with another chica. Don't get that at all, LOL, especially when you consider the number of other guys she's getting pounded by every night.
Had one chica I barely knew (and who speaks no English) ask me after an arriba session - "muchas mujeres?" and was giving the impression she was going to get upset if I told her I was sleeping with a bunch of chicas in the clubs. I just sort of laughed the question off and responded with "muchos hombres?" That discussion ended pretty quickly after I asked that.
Captain Solo
08-24-22, 16:17
Carlos,
Assuming the girl is hot and can book 2 sessions max a night in HK, 2-5 K pesos a day is generous, that should include GFEs and TLNs.
A bro has been dating the hottest and sweetest girls in HK in their own hometowns, GFEs, TLNs, hot sex, parties, touring with girls cooking 3 meals a day, clothes washed and pressed, even romantic presents. He's not paying anything but is known for spending big money in HK, raining $1 k a night on the stage, buying $800 bottles even though he does not drink liquors, only beers. Girls know he's a big spender so all try to hook him for LTRs with big pay outs hehe.
A few other bros have gone on vacations with the girls. They never asked for money but expected generous compensation. When the guys did not give them enough, they got mad and broke off relationships.
Baxter Slade
08-24-22, 20:14
But what stumps me even more is the number of chicas who get jealous when they see customers they know go arriba with other chicas. Have had a few communicate displeasure with me after finding out I was with another chica. Don't get that at all, LOL, It has nothing to do with jealousy. Equate it to your a bidness man selling widgets and your customer starts buying widgets from another vendor. Certainly that's going to piss you off.
LuvMexicanas
08-25-22, 01:38
It has nothing to do with jealousy. Equate it to your a bidness man selling widgets and your customer starts buying widgets from another vendor. Certainly that's going to piss you off.Exactly right Bax. It amazes me that some mongers think a chica gives a fuck on a personal level. Every transaction a monger has with another is a lost opportunity for her nothing more.
DonCarlos1234
08-25-22, 10:10
Carlos,
Assuming the girl is hot and can book 2 sessions max a night in HK, 2-5 K pesos a day is generous, that should include GFEs and TLNs.
A bro has been dating the hottest and sweetest girls in HK in their own hometowns, GFEs, TLNs, hot sex, parties, touring with girls cooking 3 meals a day, clothes washed and pressed, even romantic presents. He's not paying anything but is known for spending big money in HK, raining $1 k a night on the stage, buying $800 bottles even though he does not drink liquors, only beers. Girls know he's a big spender so all try to hook him for LTRs with big pay outs hehe.
A few other bros have gone on vacations with the girls. They never asked for money but expected generous compensation. When the guys did not give them enough, they got mad and broke off relationships.Appreciate your input. I did much more of this in Colombia with mostly SA girls. Although things are different. I did give them about this amount. The quality was above most of the hktj girls. And less jaded by being on the usa border. They were "semi-pros" or regular girls looking for fun with a gringo SD. Still in touch with a lot of them but Tijuana is much closer. So is GDL and the girl I met is not a regular stripper / could be fun. She's hot. Not really wanting her for TLN but time will tell. Thanks!
Exactly right Bax. It amazes me that some mongers think a chica gives a fuck on a personal level. Every transaction a monger has with another is a lost opportunity for her nothing more.This is not true in some cases. In my beginning Tijuana days 7 years ago a girl at the dump on corner across from Ibiza, and then she worked at another bar in the alley that's been closed 4 years, she cried when she read my Google translator and saw questions that would only be used in girls. My previous conversations. Here I am paying a girl to hang out with me and not worrying about that kind of stuff and finding put I should be worried about it. I had known this girl for 2 years, spent maybe 500 in drinks for her, she slept over twice. Back then I didn't pay for sex so we didn't have any LOL. Like ever not once. I had asked once the 2nd time she slept over and she said it was like $150 due to her family bulls, kids etc. I was like ok no sex no problem. But anyway yeah she cried for real I really never made a girl cry before or after in my life.
My rules for going to hk for the first time or meeting any woman in Zona Norte. (I make this for any newbies that have a special place in my heart especially young men under the age of 25 that can get taken for a ride. Black men in particular LOL).
Keep in mind I haven't spent too much time out of Tijuana mostly, like Toronto or Guam but many different cities throughout the pussy prison us of a.
1. The first thing you should do at a bar (hk etc) is rub the back of their head and see if they have fake hair. If so ask (" wow so beautiful how much did that cost") They will proudly tell you it cost 500,600, 700 or 800 USD. The point being to any newcomer and the mistake that I made is that none of these girls are "exploited or in need" they are probably just as or if not more high maintenance than an American girl because of thier lifestyle. If you ever get girls numbers this becomes blatantly apparent on their whatsapp stories or instagram stories. I think A GOOD CHUNK OF HK girls make 3000 to 4000 a month untaxed at the higher end. Also those tattoos, they aren't cheap, that is thousands of dollars of disposable income that is not taxed. Not even the Meseros which is super important. I spent a bit of time down and after they got to know me I've had Meseros ask me, (I'm thinking of buying this thousand dollar phone with cash what is your impression of it.) I'm like wtf, you can afford thousand dollar phones but are always badgering me if my tip is insufficient.
2. My rule is always assume everything in Zona Norte is a lie first and be pleasesntly surprised if it's not. With Meseros and especially with girls. I'm sure there are dozens of guys that will say they proudly seduced dozens of girls that begged to marry them with just thier big "cawks". (Ok bro whatever you say but after spending significant time down there and talking to people that has not been my experience).
3. Understand that most girls are in a quasi allegiance to tell the exact same lies. This may sound naive but after asking like 10 different girls if they were charged by hk to "go arriba" and all 10 told the exact same lie you understand that there is a good amount of coaching that comes about to extract as much money from you as humanly possible.
4. Never ever treat a puta as anything more than a pussy to fuck. Putas are coached all the time in ways to immitate actual romantic interactions. This seems obvious, but I use to work in strip club where things of affection sometimes became nuanced between the girls and a customer, though not often. And in Zona Norte, the same thing applies, it is extremely rare that you are seen as little more than a walking wallet.
Captain Solo
08-26-22, 14:18
Also check quality of the silicone implants in their boobs and butt.
Ask them how much and where they had them installed.
Yeah I'm kind of stumped on why any dude would be jealous on any of these girls pounding other men when it's literally their job to fuck dudes for money LOL. I've seen a couple of my favorites go arriba with other guys and really could care less. Good for them IMO.
But what stumps me even more is the number of chicas who get jealous when they see customers they know go arriba with other chicas. Have had a few communicate displeasure with me after finding out I was with another chica. Don't get that at all, LOL, especially when you consider the number of other guys she's getting pounded by every night.
Had one chica I barely knew (and who speaks no English) ask me after an arriba session - "muchas mujeres?" and was giving the impression she was going to get upset if I told her I was sleeping with a bunch of chicas in the clubs. I just sort of laughed the question off and responded with "muchos hombres?" That discussion ended pretty quickly after I asked that.The chicas aren't jealous per say in the traditonal sense. They are just mad at losing on the money the should be making on you. They hate losing a cutomer to another girl LOL. All about the benjis.
Captain Solo
08-27-22, 12:17
CB really knows La Zona women.
Putas are so money-focused, it's unbelievable. They don't give a shit about you or which girls you screw. They play dozens guys at the same time, making them feel guilty of spending money on other girls. When guys run out of money, putas suddenly forget who they were.
Putas are in love only with money, then meth.
AmorPorFavor
08-27-22, 19:09
CB really knows La Zona women.
Putas are so money-focused, it's unbelievable. They don't give a shit about you or which girls you screw. They play dozens guys at the same time, making them feel guilty of spending money on other girls. When guys run out of money, putas suddenly forget who they were.
Putas are in love only with money, then meth.It cracks me up that some mongers actually think that the puta is jealous if he takes another puta because he is such an irresistible hunk.
BrotherMouzone
08-27-22, 20:16
It has nothing to do with jealousy. Equate it to your a bidness man selling widgets and your customer starts buying widgets from another vendor. Certainly that's going to piss you off.I mean you're right as far as your example but I didn't necessarily mean jealousy in a "romantic feelings" sense. Chicas can get "jealous" of other chicas getting business from their regular customers, the same way SOME business men in your example can have feelings of jealousy if they see their regular widget customers all of a sudden buying widgets from someone else.
There are about 200 chicas in HK alone not counting the other bars. Because they are from all over Mexico and Latin America from vast difference backgrounds, experiences, needs, and age, I think it is pretty fucking retarded and lame to try to categorize all of the chicas as one group, with one personality, with one need, and one desire as though as one knows after having a deep intimate relationship with every single chica in the zona norte in the last 10 years.
Aviator400
08-27-22, 21:47
I mean you're right as far as your example but I didn't necessarily mean jealousy in a "romantic feelings" sense. Chicas can get "jealous" of other chicas getting business from their regular customers, the same way SOME business men in your example can have feelings of jealousy if they see their regular widget customers all of a sudden buying widgets from someone else.Exactly on target in 99 percent of the cases.
DonCarlos1234
08-28-22, 18:53
There are about 200 chicas in HK alone not counting the other bars. Because they are from all over Mexico and Latin America from vast difference backgrounds, experiences, needs, and age, I think it is pretty fucking retarded and lame to try to categorize all of the chicas as one group, with one personality, with one need, and one desire as though as one knows after having a deep intimate relationship with every single chica in the zona norte in the last 10 years.Still there are some exceptions. Maybe the local girls who work there a lot that are recognizable to this board.
ImpressiveWin
08-28-22, 20:55
Looking to head across the border on 17th Sept. Do HK provide transport? I've been to HK once with a buddy so feels kinda weird going solo this time.
Any other precautions I should take this time?
If anyone would like to join me then let me know.
Thanks guys.
Looking to head across the border on 17th Sept. Do HK provide transport? I've been to HK once with a buddy so feels kinda weird going solo this time.
Any other precautions I should take this time?
If anyone would like to join me then let me know.
Thanks guys.I have only gone solo and had a great time. You can take the HK limo or take a cab to HK for $5. I am five years sober but I have heard its best to not buy drugs and only drink inside the clubs. Only stay in the immediate streets around HK and you should be good.
Looking to head across the border on 17th Sept. Do HK provide transport? I've been to HK once with a buddy so feels kinda weird going solo this time.
Any other precautions I should take this time?
If anyone would like to join me then let me know.
Thanks guys.Yes. When you exit the turnstile just stay to your right and do a turn back on the sidewalk that heads toward the border crossing back to the USA. On the right about 100 feet will be the HK little office where you can request a ride.
G.
Drove over to TJ again instead of walking and taking a taxi. A couple of my Night Shift regulars are still on their summer breaks but I also have a couple that have been consistently working so figured I would grab one of them when I got to the club. Didn't text them ahead of time like I usually do figuring I could surprise them. Got to the club around 10 pm and didn't see either of them. After about an hour I reached out to the younger one and she said she took the night off. Great. The other one who is a MILF never showed up either, but I didn't text her. Unfortunately it seemed like the B team was in tonight and not just at HK, but all the other clubs too. I can usually spot a couple decent options at Adelitas but on this night the pickings were atrocious. Seriously there were a couple women in there that management should be ashamed to have hired to work at the club. Later on I stopped by around 1 am to take a leak and s look around out of curiosity and a small group of better looking girls showed up. Went to Chicago and didn't spot any girls worth getting to know so headed back to HK.
I was hoping the MILF would eventually show up but she never did. By now it was around midnight. Still looked like the B team in there. A spinner caught my eye and she actually approached me asking me to buy her a ficha and said she would give me a nice lap dance while she drank. I asked if she makes out and she said she gives nice kisses. Wasn't sure how to take that answer so I said maybe later. Few minutes later and I ran across a young girl, probably around 21 with an Ariana Grande type look to her. Was trying to size her up to see if I could get a GFE type session out of her but she was a little hard to read. Eventually a heavy set guy called her over to his table and to my surprise she was giving him pretty decent service, grinding on him and letting his hands roam free. If she was treating that guy that way I'm pretty sure I could have pulled way more out of her. This guy never let her go from his table after that though and it was onto the next.
Noticed a slender girl with a nice body dancing her ass off on one of the smaller stages. Approached her with tip and she was very receptive, got down on all fours arching her back with her pussy lips completely eating her g string. I started rubbing her pussy and she didn't back away. I asked if she would take 80 for arriba. To my surprise she said yes. Said her name was Uma. I asked if this was the start or end of her shift and she said it was the end and I was actually her only arriba for the night. So maybe she accepted my 80 because nobody had taken her upstairs until now. Not only did she take a shower before our session but also after, so she's pretty clean. Got some DFK, FIV, FIA and she was a straight up sex machine. She came twice. She said she only made out with me because she liked how I looked and was fucking her good, so could be a YMMV situation. Pretty sure we went over the 30 minutes also, we both worked up a sweat. Asked for her number but she said due to bad experiences she doesn't give out her number anymore, maybe with more sessions. I usually see her at the club anyway so not that big of a deal, just hadn't approached her before for whatever reason. It wasn't until I tipped her that I got the sudden urge to fuck her. The way her pussy was eating up that g string was just too much for me to resist. She said although I was her only arriba tonight, she made a little over $150 in tips, so not too bad I guess. Headed back home around 1 am. Only did a little over 30 minutes in the ready lane that was backed up for miles but I cut the line when I saw a huge gap in between cars. I don't advise doing this as there is usually traffic cops looking to fine line cutters. Didn't see any polica around so I just took the risk.
My experience is small at this point. This topic interests me as I am having fun with girls traveling around Mexico.
My first experience is not a good data point for going rates. The girl wanted to get out of HK ASAP. She actually would have taken 2 k pesos for a 6 hour Tijuana beach fun but she was amazing so I was generous. I got to know this girl a little bit. She is a MAJOR freak but horrible with time management. She has missed two of her own flights that I am aware of. Another reason not to buy these girls a flight LOL. I had to let her go. She hates the Zona and from my understanding works in GDL.
2nd experience is better data. She wanted 6 k pesos for the night in Rosarito but took 4 k. She tried to get it down to 5 hours last minute but allowed for the agreed on all night. Was total 12 hours. She is good with time management looks fantastic and lot of fun to be with. I tipped her. I saw her in her hometown of Monterrey. Same arrangements. Problem with me seeing her in her home town was there was always reasons for her to be home. She would give me 12-18 hours a day but it was at night. In some ways this was good as it allowed me to check the town out. I explored the sites, had a couple girls lined up with SA, checked out the local club and massage places. We did dinners, some night clubs and some other things. Time management was still on point. I am just not sure about seeing this particular girl in her home town. She is good when in Tijuana having seen her twice there. I think she will be good if we travel.
What I am not sure about is if the trip is line 3-4 days or more will it still be same price per day. Hoping for some kind of multi day deal. Also I like to do a smaller initial price and then a generous tip. I want the girl to know her behavior on the trip will have a large impact on the money they get. I dgaf that these are sex workers and this is all pretend. Regardless the girl needs to be on point about the service if she wants the money I will give.
I will be at Cascades Monday Thursday next week. I want to see if I find anyone as desirable at the last girl I met there 2 weeks ago from Sinaloa. Guau! I offered to visit her and set a tentative date the first week in October (staying 4 nights) we'll tour Guadalajara, dinners, sex, and possible overnights together. Maybe only 2 nights together so I am free to do / meet others. She said YES. No specific money discussed yet. I am thinking 4-5 K pesos per day. Hotels there (4 stars or better) are or less than of what you pay in Tijuana. Guess the gringos drive the prices up here. What do you guys think about 4-5 K in GDL?
I know a couple girls plan on traveling to HK to start working in Sept. One is very open with me and told me it is because her kids start school in Mty. Anyone know if this is a thing that affects more girls? When does this start to happen??
I know a couple girls plan on traveling to HK to start working in Sept. One is very open with me and told me it is because her kids start school in Mty. Anyone know if this is a thing that affects more girls? When does this start to happen??I know of 2 girls that left last week to get kids back to school. I think most schools in mx are back this week.
LuvMexicanas
08-29-22, 20:35
I have only gone solo and had a great time. You can take the HK limo or take a cab to HK for $5. I am five years sober but I have heard its best to not buy drugs and only drink inside the clubs. Only stay in the immediate streets around HK and you should be good.Or you can get in one of the vans to Centro for just 10 pesos.
I know a couple girls plan on traveling to HK to start working in Sept. One is very open with me and told me it is because her kids start school in Mty. Anyone know if this is a thing that affects more girls? When does this start to happen??All I know is that late August is when a lot of chicas are doing their last summer break to see family because it is the end of summer and plane tickets are low, and they don't get to see their kids until maybe their Winter break. I think late September is when they all come back. Then they form a price cartel and try to push prices up because each chica has to buy each of her 10 kids a present. Kids are everything in Mexico.
All I know is that late August is when a lot of chicas are doing their last summer break to see family because it is the end of summer and plane tickets are low, and they don't get to see their kids until maybe their Winter break. I think late September is when they all come back. Then they form a price cartel and try to push prices up because each chica has to buy each of her 10 kids a present. Kids are everything in Mexico.I had one try to sell me time shares or a condo in cancun during my last trip. Price was not too bad only 150 k LOL.
DonCarlos1234
08-30-22, 07:39
My experience is small at this point. This topic interests me as I am having fun with girls traveling around Mexico.
My first experience is not a good data point for going rates. The girl wanted to get out of HK ASAP. She actually would have taken 2 k pesos for a 6 hour Tijuana beach fun but she was amazing so I was generous. I got to know this girl a little bit. She is a MAJOR freak but horrible with time management. She has missed two of her own flights that I am aware of. Another reason not to buy these girls a flight LOL. I had to let her go. She hates the Zona and from my understanding works in GDL.
2nd experience is better data. She wanted 6 k pesos for the night in Rosarito but took 4 k. She tried to get it down to 5 hours last minute but allowed for the agreed on all night. Was total 12 hours. She is good with time management looks fantastic and lot of fun to be with. I tipped her. I saw her in her hometown of Monterrey. Same arrangements. Problem with me seeing her in her home town was there was always reasons for her to be home. She would give me 12-18 hours a day but it was at night. In some ways this was good as it allowed me to check the town out. I explored the sites, had a couple girls lined up with SA, checked out the local club and massage places. We did dinners, some night clubs and some other things. Time management was still on point. I am just not sure about seeing this particular girl in her home town. She is good when in Tijuana having seen her twice there. I think she will be good if we travel.
What I am not sure about is if the trip is line 3-4 days or more will it still be same price per day. Hoping for some kind of multi day deal. Also I like to do a smaller initial price and then a generous tip. I want the girl to know her behavior on the trip will have a large impact on the money they get. I dgaf that these are sex workers and this is all pretend. Regardless the girl needs to be on point about the service if she wants the money I will give.Good info Hadez. My Spirit flight was "delayed" over 7 hours today. 2nd time for this. No more. It only takes 6 hours to drive there. Anyway, I cancelled the trip and will try again in 2 weeks but driving instead. I have flight credits to Colombia. Still want to see who I find nearby in MX. And I want to visit the country more with someone nice.
RikyMichaels7
08-30-22, 19:29
CB really knows La Zona women.
Putas are so money-focused, it's unbelievable. They don't give a shit about you or which girls you screw. They play dozens guys at the same time, making them feel guilty of spending money on other girls. When guys run out of money, putas suddenly forget who they were.
Putas are in love only with money, then meth.Bam, I couldn't have said it any better! As the infamous Yamilet from Tropical once told me when she demanded I give her money for lipo, and to give it to her immediately. "No dinero, no amor. " And of course after I refused the lipo, she sent me photos of her and another dude at a restaurant sipping fine wine together. And of course, the idea behind all of this was to make me jealous and to pay up. Mind you, this was when I was already paying her rent and everything else. But the good news is that I finally got a clue and dumped her ass. After I dumped her, she sent me a video of her going down on some gang banger. I mean a total loser. As karma would have it, dude knocked her up and she now gets to spend every night working as a puta in the job she claimed she so detested and of which my previous funds kept her from having to work as a puta. This is because her gang banger that knocked her up ran for the hills after realizing she was pregnant with his kid.
Karma is a *****. LOL.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-30-22, 23:17
Bam, I couldn't have said it any better! As the infamous Yamilet from Tropical once told me when she demanded I give her money for lipo, and to give it to her immediately. "No dinero, no amor. " And of course after I refused the lipo, she sent me photos of her and another dude at a restaurant sipping fine wine together. And of course, the idea behind all of this was to make me jealous and to pay up. Mind you, this was when I was already paying her rent and everything else. But the good news is that I finally got a clue and dumped her ass. After I dumped her, she sent me a video of her going down on some gang banger. I mean a total loser. As karma would have it, dude knocked her up and she now gets to spend every night working as a puta in the job she claimed she so detested and of which my previous funds kept her from having to work as a puta. This is because her gang banger that knocked her up ran for the hills after realizing she was pregnant with his kid..How much money were you giving this girl each month? I used to give an HK chica a few thousand a month to "keep her out of the club" which she did leave. But as soon as I stopped be / see it wasn't financially feasible for me to be hemorrhaging a few thousand each month on some hooker I really didn't see a future with for a variety of reasons, she immediately stopped talking to me and went back to getting pounded by 30 men a day at the club.
How much money were you giving this girl each month? I used to give an HK chica a few thousand a month to "keep her out of the club" which she did leave. But as soon as I stopped be / see it wasn't financially feasible for me to be hemorrhaging a few thousand each month on some hooker I really didn't see a future with for a variety of reasons, she immediately stopped talking to me and went back to getting pounded by 30 men a day at the club.That's the way it always goes with these girls. Most don't have an education, have fucked up families, and usually have at least 1 kid or more. They get used to the easy money from spreading their legs and it sure as hell pays more then the wages in Mexico. That's why you use them to satisfy your sexual needs and move on.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-31-22, 03:48
That's the way it always goes with these girls. Most don't have an education, have fucked up families, and usually have at least 1 kid or more. They get used to the easy money from spreading their legs and it sure as hell pays more then the wages in Mexico. That's why you use them to satisfy your sexual needs and move on.Yeah you said it perfectly. She had no education. Maybe not even high school. Has 2 kids that are nearing high school (no way am I going to pay high school and college tuition for two kids that aren't mine). She also supports her parents who generate no income whatsoever. Her sister is also a hooker at HK. You got to admire the effort this woman puts to supporting her family and the number of dicks she's willing suck and be pounded by to support her family. But despite their good intentions, their job fucks up their mind permanently. No woman remains normal after getting pounded by 20 men a night, many of whom I'm sure abuse her sexually or do some other nasty stuff to her when going arriba.
It's an ugly reality that you unfortunately come to see when you get to know these girls beyond a quick smash and dash as Luke Powell describes it.
RikyMichaels7
08-31-22, 05:42
How much money were you giving this girl each month? I used to give an HK chica a few thousand a month to "keep her out of the club" which she did leave. But as soon as I stopped be / see it wasn't financially feasible for me to be hemorrhaging a few thousand each month on some hooker I really didn't see a future with for a variety of reasons, she immediately stopped talking to me and went back to getting pounded by 30 men a day at the club.I was giving her about 1 k per month. This kept her out of Bar Tropical, which she constantly complained about the patrons groping her, etc. They loved her in Tropical because she sold the shit out of alcohol for them. As a result, they would pay her flight back home to Sinaloa and then back to Tijuana. Every time she wanted money, or when I was a day late in paying her rent and stuff, she would go see this guy from Iran in the bar to make me jealous so I would pay up immediately. He would basically buy her drinks all afternoon and until closing. I mean he would blow 500 dollars a night on just drinks for her. Then she would send me pics of the two of them in the bar. This dude was stupid as Hell because he would continuously ask her to be his GF and she kept telling him that she loved me. One night when she sent me pics, I walked into Tropical and there she was sitting with this ahole with a cubeta of beer. I walked over to their table and told her to get her ass over with me to the bar. She didn't expect me showing up. This dude grabbed me by the collar and I threw a right cross to his temple and almost knocked him out. Luckily the waiters came over and stopped any further action and luckily I didn't go to jail. But the fool kept coming back wasting his money on her. Anyway, I had enough of her BS and manipulating ways and got rid of her. This chick was horrible and demon possessed. She broke my finger one night in her apartment due to her drunkeness and took a kitchen knife and cut my biceps twice, resulting in me having to get 10 stitches. Total *****. In the final analysis, none of these putas are worth you paying their rent, food, etc. They will take your money and screw you over quickly. A relationship with a puta will never work. You will end up broke and screwed. Let me say it again. It will never work.
RikyMichaels7
08-31-22, 05:44
That's the way it always goes with these girls. Most don't have an education, have fucked up families, and usually have at least 1 kid or more. They get used to the easy money from spreading their legs and it sure as hell pays more then the wages in Mexico. That's why you use them to satisfy your sexual needs and move on.SeaBeeJoe:
You summarized it beautifully here in a few sentences. No dinero, no amor.
That's the way it always goes with these girls. Most don't have an education, have fucked up families, and usually have at least 1 kid or more. They get used to the easy money from spreading their legs and it sure as hell pays more then the wages in Mexico. That's why you use them to satisfy your sexual needs and move on.Most people can't actually keep it strictly business, which is why paying a chica monthly to get her out of the club in exchange for exclusive sex almost always ends poorly. You can get emotionally attached, or whatever, but the only thing they actually get attached to is your steady stream of income.
I've never paid a girl's rent and stuff like that, but I have spent enough on day trips, weekends, and stuff like that to know that the second you start liking or getting tired of them as a person, even if the sex is still awesome, that it's time to move on.
These girls have sex for money, because the alternative is unimaginable for them.
Most people can't actually keep it strictly business, which is why paying a chica monthly to get her out of the club in exchange for exclusive sex almost always ends poorly. You can get emotionally attached, or whatever, but the only thing they actually get attached to is your steady stream of income.
I've never paid a girl's rent and stuff like that, but I have spent enough on day trips, weekends, and stuff like that to know that the second you start liking or getting tired of them as a person, even if the sex is still awesome, that it's time to move on.
These girls have sex for money, because the alternative is unimaginable for them.What is this alternative you speak of? The average pay for a worker in Mexico is like $2000 peso per week if not less. The ones I've met were doing it for their kids, family, or bills. I can't imagine trying to support a family let alone kids on such low salary. Most are from low income and broken families so they don't have many other options. I've seen it with all the women I've met around the world, Russians, Ethiopians, Thais, Chinese, Viets, Koreans, etc. Most of their families, friends are oblivious of what they do to earn money, which is hard to imagine when your mother or sister magically falls into a boatload of cash to pays bills, pay rent, buy clothes, or any other necessity.
Sometimes I felt like I was exploiting their poor situations as I frequent international destinations for the value proposition and just fulfilling a primal need, but at the end of the day it is your money. Similar to drug or gambling addicts that get a rush from how they spend their time and money. I don't judge them the slightest on their profession as the experience they share is worth more than the money I spent or I wouldn't have spent it.
Most of the mongers on this board are probably married and in unhappy arrangements where it is cheaper to keep her, but that is a whole different subject. I agree that paying them so they don't continue to work in the clubs is a failed proposition as they need to make that decision on their own and it won't matter how much you provide as it will never be enough. The thinking that most have on this board is like stroking a broad brush across all women that choose sex work. Not everyone is the same and everyone participates in the P4 P scene for various reasons. I just hope you treat them kindly, stay safe, and enjoy the experience.
I was giving her about 1 k per month. This kept her out of Bar Tropical, which she constantly complained about the patrons groping her, etc. They loved her in Tropical because she sold the shit out of alcohol for them. As a result, they would pay her flight back home to Sinaloa and then back to Tijuana. Every time she wanted money, or when I was a day late in paying her rent and stuff, she would go see this guy from Iran in the bar to make me jealous so I would pay up immediately. He would basically buy her drinks all afternoon and until closing. I mean he would blow 500 dollars a night on just drinks for her. Then she would send me pics of the two of them in the bar. This dude was stupid as Hell because he would continuously ask her to be his GF and she kept telling him that she loved me. One night when she sent me pics, I walked into Tropical and there she was sitting with this ahole with a cubeta of beer. I walked over to their table and told her to get her ass over with me to the bar. She didn't expect me showing up. This dude grabbed me by the collar and I threw a right cross to his temple and almost knocked him out. Luckily the waiters came over and stopped any further action and luckily I didn't go to jail. But the fool kept coming back wasting his money on her. Anyway, I had enough of her BS and manipulating ways and got rid of her. This chick was horrible and demon possessed. She broke my finger one night in her apartment due to her drunkeness and took a kitchen knife and cut my biceps twice, resulting in me having to get 10 stitches. Total *****. In the final analysis, none of these putas are worth you paying their rent, food, etc. They will take your money and screw you over quickly. A relationship with a puta will never work. You will end up broke and screwed. Let me say it again. It will never work.The moment she decided to disrespect you and crossed your boundaries, you should have made the decision to walk. Unless you had an agreement that she still worked in the bar. It is about survival for them and the idea of an emergency fund is a vague concept. Sadly most rely on day to day money to function and probably spent it before they earned it. I don't know the situation, but she probably thought if you can't provide for her, then she'll go back to what she knows best to make fast money. Women aren't worth getting into a fight over, especially the ones that blatantly disrespect you.
Aviator400
08-31-22, 20:37
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Seriously? I am trying to figure out who is the bigger idiot / asshole in this scenario.
If I am sitting with a puta and you try to take her from me before I am finished, we are going to throw down just out of principal. It wasn't your turn.
And you kept at her after she injured you and attacked you with a knife? And you think the other guy is a fool?
Get help. Seriously. Get help now.Throw down just out of principal? There isn't any girl worth that! GF or puta.
RikyMichaels7
08-31-22, 21:04
Seriously? I am trying to figure out who is the bigger idiot / asshole in this scenario.
If I am sitting with a puta and you try to take her from me before I am finished, we are going to throw down just out of principal. It wasn't your turn.
And you kept at her after she injured you and attacked you with a knife? And you think the other guy is a fool?
Get help. Seriously. Get help now.Watch your tone dude. I was simply sharing a story and my experience. Now, in reality, yes, I should have dumped her ass the first time she went with the dude. And was it wrong to throw a punch at him when I could have ended it all. Absolutely. But don't sit here and pass judgment when I am simply sharing my experience.
A couple of really old dudes with pot bellies fighting it out in slow motion over a woman. That is kinda romantic and surely teaches the Mexicans that we Americans are just as passionate and romantic as any Latin lover out there. As someone once said "there is no greater glory than to die for love. ".
Big thumbs up for me.
DonCarlos1234
09-01-22, 05:27
A couple of really old dudes with pot bellies fighting it out in slow motion over a woman. That is kinda romantic and surely teaches the Mexicans that we Americans are just as passionate and romantic as any Latin lover out there. As someone once said "there is no greater glory than to die for love. ".
Big thumbs up for me.As we all know. Looking for "love" here is looking in the wrong places but it happens. Try SA it's more work but at least they won't be doing multiple guys a night. And probably far better educated. And hopefully better looking. YMMV.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-01-22, 06:01
I was giving her about 1 k per month. This kept her out of Bar Tropical, which she constantly complained about the patrons groping her, etc. They loved her in Tropical because she sold the shit out of alcohol for them. As a result, they would pay her flight back home to Sinaloa and then back to Tijuana. Every time she wanted money, or when I was a day late in paying her rent and stuff, she would go see this guy from Iran in the bar to make me jealous so I would pay up immediately. He would basically buy her drinks all afternoon and until closing. I mean he would blow 500 dollars a night on just drinks for her. Then she would send me pics of the two of them in the bar. This dude was stupid as Hell because he would continuously ask her to be his GF and she kept telling him that she loved me. One night when she sent me pics, I walked into Tropical and there she was sitting with this ahole with a cubeta of beer. I walked over to their table and told her to get her ass over with me to the bar. She didn't expect me showing up. This dude grabbed me by the collar and I threw a right cross to his temple and almost knocked him out. Luckily the waiters came over and stopped any further action and luckily I didn't go to jail. But the fool kept coming back wasting his money on her. Anyway, I had enough of her BS and manipulating ways and got rid of her. This chick was horrible and demon possessed. She broke my finger one night in her apartment due to her drunkeness and took a kitchen knife and cut my biceps twice, resulting in me having to get 10 stitches. Total *****. In the final analysis, none of these putas are worth you paying their rent, food, etc. They will take your money and screw you over quickly. A relationship with a puta will never work. You will end up broke and screwed. Let me say it again. It will never work.1 k / month definitely isn't enough to replace their earnings at the club. The chica I knew said she pulled in between 3-5 k per week but she still decided to leave the club when I was giving her maybe 3 k / month because she hated working there. But that didn't last be / see I'm not rich and can't sustain that financial donation of 3 k / month indefinitely. Your chica seems nasty in that she would do those things to you. The chica I knew "seemed" like an actual good person but I think I just promised more than I could and was willing to deliver. Hence I cut the strings and she went back to doing what she was always doing: getting tits jizzed on and ass pounded by 20 men per night to make her money. Kinda sad but nothing I can do about it without bankrupting myself to "save the hooker."
It wasn't your turn.One simple phrase says it all: It's not your girl, it's just your turn.
BrotherMouzone
09-01-22, 07:14
Watch your tone dude. I was simply sharing a story and my experience. Now, in reality, yes, I should have dumped her ass the first time she went with the dude. And was it wrong to throw a punch at him when I could have ended it all. Absolutely. But don't sit here and pass judgment when I am simply sharing my experience.Well, to be fair your original post was a litany of things NOT to do in Zona Norte with putas. Could almost be used as a cautionary tale for newbies on how things could end up if you make the wrong choices with these girls. With that said yeah, his overly judgmental tone was probably a bit unnecessary. Glad you ended up seeing the light at the end.
Most people can't actually keep it strictly business, which is why paying a chica monthly to get her out of the club in exchange for exclusive sex almost always ends poorly. You can get emotionally attached, or whatever, but the only thing they actually get attached to is your steady stream of income.
I've never paid a girl's rent and stuff like that, but I have spent enough on day trips, weekends, and stuff like that to know that the second you start liking or getting tired of them as a person, even if the sex is still awesome, that it's time to move on.
These girls have sex for money, because the alternative is unimaginable for them.I know brother I fell in love with a few of the working girls in the zona. It all ended pretty badly and I don't talk to any of them anymore. But I don't regret it as it was a learning experience and I don't hate any of them for doing what they needed to do to survive in Mexico. As an American I have my pension and disability pay plus I also earn money of the side doing gig work and online stuff. The Chicas don't have that for the most part and have to earn day to day to live and maybe save up some cash for those rainy days if they are smart. I do remember one Chica I was crazy about that told me I was lucky to have a pension and that I should be thankful for what I had. I am thankful because I wouldn't make a dime as a sex worker, what a hard life it is IMO. It might be easy for the sex workers to spread their legs after a working for a while, but it does fuck them up mentally. They are never the same as before they started working as a prostitute. In the end you can't save them so do yourself a favor and just save yourself.
LuvMexicanas
09-01-22, 17:52
1 k / month definitely isn't enough to replace their earnings at the club. The chica I knew said she pulled in between 3-5 k per week but she still decided to leave the club when I was giving her maybe 3 k / month because she hated working there. But that didn't last be / see I'm not rich and can't sustain that financial donation of 3 k / month indefinitely. Your chica seems nasty in that she would do those things to you. The chica I knew "seemed" like an actual good person but I think I just promised more than I could and was willing to deliver. Hence I cut the strings and she went back to doing what she was always doing: getting tits jizzed on and ass pounded by 20 men per night to make her money. Kinda sad but nothing I can do about it without bankrupting myself to "save the hooker."$3,000 a month free and clear after taxes is a pretty damn good income in Mexico, even Tijuana. That's top tier Western Union Papi territory.
Captain Solo
09-02-22, 00:56
It's better to be in love and in lust with a pretty girl for half hour.
Than be in hand to hand combat with an old, ugly, spiteful woman your whole life.
1 k / month definitely isn't enough to replace their earnings at the club. The chica I knew said she pulled in between 3-5 k per week but she still decided to leave the club when I was giving her maybe 3 k / month because she hated working there. But that didn't last be / see I'm not rich and can't sustain that financial donation of 3 k / month indefinitely. Your chica seems nasty in that she would do those things to you. The chica I knew "seemed" like an actual good person but I think I just promised more than I could and was willing to deliver. Hence I cut the strings and she went back to doing what she was always doing: getting tits jizzed on and ass pounded by 20 men per night to make her money. Kinda sad but nothing I can do about it without bankrupting myself to "save the hooker."You may have known a girl. And she may have told you she was earning $5 K a week. But if she did she is an inveterate liar. I realize there are fichas, and tips, and what not. If you exclude those the girl would have to make around 8 trips upstairs every night of a 6-night week. So, 1 per hour. This hour includes meeting the guy, a drink, going upstairs, going downstairs, going to the ladies room to fix makeup and do whatever, and then back on the floor. Eight times per night. Every night. Can it happen? Sure, anything is possible. Does it happen consistently? No.
I know, very well, several girls who live on a fraction of what you were giving this $5 K / week chica. Giving one of these girls $3 K / month shows a profound misunderstanding or perhaps ignorance of the cost of living in Mexico.
Oh, and zero girls have 20 guys per night.
It's better to be in love and in lust with a pretty girl for half hour.
Than be in hand to hand combat with an old, ugly, spiteful woman your whole life.LOL so true El Captain! Confucius also say don't believe what puta say, she mostly full of caca.
Captain Solo
09-03-22, 05:41
Hot HK girls are known to pull in $500 a night on weekend, so they make about $3000-5000 a month when they work.
Putas are the stars in Mexico's society. Lots of average girls look up to them, aspire to earn as much money and live the same glammy high life, just like average boys aspire to be trafficos to make a lot of money. Putas have high expectations for guys who are attracted to them, gradually sink their hooks in and will slice them out of those poor guys. Those relationships usually end in horrible ways, may be very risky for gringos. Putas with high expectations and high maintenance costs should be avoided.
A wingman had a series of weekend dates with a few hottest bar girls. Finally he decided to move in with a hot girl in Tijuana. I have not heard of any problems so I am guessing they are still happy together. A few young guys took some sweetest-looking young girls out of bars and married them, had children and formed a happy, loving community of young families in Tijuana. So it can work depending on circumstances. Just remember all relationships will eventually develop frictions and problems. It's up to you how well you manage them.
OTOH I know quite a few good relationships between mongers and normal Mexican girls. An old guy lives with a sweet, young girl, a shy, pretty spinner when I met her. He spends a few nights a week with her, takes her out to restaurants and clubs, pays for the apartment, gives her food and spending money, average less than $1,000 a month. They seem happy together. She took a friend clubbing one night, a very beautiful blonde with a pretty smile and sweet personality. I have been trying to set up an arrangement with her.
For good LTRs guys should look outside puta bars for girls with morals and dignity, who will not use and manipulate guys, rent out their pussies to live their high lives. Civie clubs in Tijuana have lots of hot young girls, partying with their friends, unattached and available. Or go on line. Just accept the fact that we all need money to live and most women are more focused on money than relationships. You have to manage women's expectations to keep relationships healthy and happy.
I am not sure what people expect from sex workers.
1 there is a legit argument to be made about there not even being the kind of girl in this world people expect.
2. Guys and girls have different perceptions. Guys needs to stop thinking girls see things the way they do.
3. No matter who much money you give these girls they going to blow it. It is easy money. They will spend it.
The crazy thing is I been doing this long enough for more then a few sex workers to get older and mature then come back to me swearing all kinds of they will be better. I dgaf. They lied too much at this point. I am sticking it to the younger hotter bigger freak. She gets my money and if she a loca she gets a generous tip
Yes there are a couple locas who can get me back on their ride with their magic pussy but I know that ride will throw me off sooner or later.
Great advice. Know your boundaries. Know what you need.
I straight tell these 304's what I want. Some deliver. I ask for honesty and that is too much for a lot of these 304's.
When they cross your rules toss them back and find a new one. Too many girls out there to let one disrespect you.
The moment she decided to disrespect you and crossed your boundaries, you should have made the decision to walk. Unless you had an agreement that she still worked in the bar. It is about survival for them and the idea of an emergency fund is a vague concept. Sadly most rely on day to day money to function and probably spent it before they earned it. I don't know the situation, but she probably thought if you can't provide for her, then she'll go back to what she knows best to make fast money. Women aren't worth getting into a fight over, especially the ones that blatantly disrespect you.
Baxter Slade
09-03-22, 17:31
Just remember all relationships will eventually develop frictions and problems.I bet I'm not the only one who finds it so refreshing to hear Tom Brady is having relationship problems. Hehehehe.
I bet I'm not the only one who finds it so refreshing to hear Tom Brady is having relationship problems. Hehehehe.He has a sugar momma because she makes more than him. He probably said hed hang up the cleats and then went back to work because what else would you do sitting at home? Even a Brazilian supermodel that makes $50-$100 M a year isn't enough to entertain him for all hours. He is on his purpose and ensures he has something to look forward to and challenge himself. Hopefully he can stay intact at his age being tackled by 250-300 lbs. guys.
He has a sugar momma because she makes more than him. Hardly. In 2020 he got $45 MM between football and product endorsements. And that doesn't include the $37.5 MM per year that he'll be earning from Fox Sports as a commentator, after he retires. I don't think Gisele is pulling down that kind of money.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-04-22, 02:45
You may have known a girl. And she may have told you she was earning $5 K a week. But if she did she is an inveterate liar. I realize there are fichas, and tips, and what not. If you exclude those the girl would have to make around 8 trips upstairs every night of a 6-night week. So, 1 per hour. This hour includes meeting the guy, a drink, going upstairs, going downstairs, going to the ladies room to fix makeup and do whatever, and then back on the floor. Eight times per night. Every night. Can it happen? Sure, anything is possible. Does it happen consistently? No.
I know, very well, several girls who live on a fraction of what you were giving this $5 K / week chica. Giving one of these girls $3 K / month shows a profound misunderstanding or perhaps ignorance of the cost of living in Mexico.
Oh, and zero girls have 20 guys per night.How much would you theoretically have to give a busy hk chica each month to offset her club earnings for her to sustain a living in mexico? This chica blew threw anything I gave her sooo quickly it was ridiculous. I suspected I was getting played but wasn't sure.
Drove into Tijuana again and got to the club a little past 9 pm and there was way more guys than girls, probably at 3:1. A lot of girls still aren't back from their summer breaks. Spotted the girl I got from last week but she was busy. None of my other girls were around so headed to adelitas and Chicago. Didn't find anything worthwhile so headed back to HK. They opened the back part of the club past the little Miami area. Still too many dudes. My girl finally freed up but said she had to dance at the main stage and then we could session after that. Went around and tipped girls while she danced. When she was done she came right over and we headed upstairs for another amazing session. It was non stop fucking for 30 straight minutes. Like I said last week this girl is a sex machine. She then confessed to me that she actually has a live in boyfriend and that's why she doesn't give her number out. Apparently he flipped out on her last night because she didn't come home on time. Went back downstairs and chatted for a little while longer. Checked border wait app and said it was 30 minute wait in regular and ready lanes alike so decided to head back to the border ASAP. A little past midnight at this point. Since regular lane seemed empty took that route instead and only ended up in the line for 15 minutes.
AmericanPi
09-05-22, 15:20
I mean this as a serious question, not a rhetorical one.
What would make you want to buy out an HK girl? You know how many fish are in the Mexican sea, and how far down the rabbit hole a girl is if she finds herself working the poles at HK?
How much would you theoretically have to give a busy hk chica each month to offset her club earnings for her to sustain a living in mexico? This chica blew threw anything I gave her sooo quickly it was ridiculous. I suspected I was getting played but wasn't sure.
Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, I don't know how old your but you seem young by your actions. The fact that you ordered a hooker to leave this guy is appalling. How you could get mad at him for sitting with a hooker in a hooker club is amazing. You do realize they are prostitutes! The first time I went to Colombia I stayed at the mansion. I went to the pool area where a hooker was laying out. I was talking to her for about 15 minutes. This other guy checks in and then comes to the pool. Within 5 minutes they left together and went to his room. I didn't punch the guy. Later we laughed about it. You snooze you lose. You can talk bro code or whatever but the bottom line is they are hookers. Don't give them money to stay out the club. Don't pay their rent. Don't support their kids. Don't not be captain save a ho. All women are hos. Even the ones that aren't hoes. Ask tiger woods and Paul McCartney if their exs were hoes or not. They sure were paid like one. Bottom line is women have nothing to offer when they age out or get fat. I've seen it too many times. Hoes that were a 9 and two years later are a 7 and then a 5 two years after that. Never get attached to these girls like that. If that guy at HK was a drug cartel member, you could have been killed that night. Don't forget where you are. An American in Tijuana is like a black guy in Mississippi. Never get to comfy.
I have gotten to know two mexican girls over the summer who work in the clubs. Yes they not the same as USA sex workers but they do have a lot of similarities.
Lets assume the loca you talking about is different.
What makes you think if you have her X+10% with X being her normal income that she does not raise her new level of expenses and tells you she needs to go back to work to make money for some important expense she has? This behavior of adding to our expenses to our new income level is pretty much most of human kind BTW.
What makes you think she is going to be ok not making her own money and having to rely on someone else? I mean some people ok with this but some are not once they get a taste of independent money.
I will give the Mexican girls I get to know this unlike many USA sex workers they do actually seem to have the ability to care for someone. They seem loyal. Unfortunately they also seem to be making the same bad decisions I see so many girls from no money broken homes make who get into their to begin with.
I should have gotten a psy degree and offered services to mongers and sex workers. They both need good counseling besides to stop doing the things they want to do.
How much would you theoretically have to give a busy hk chica each month to offset her club earnings for her to sustain a living in mexico? This chica blew threw anything I gave her sooo quickly it was ridiculous. I suspected I was getting played but wasn't sure.
Trying to stop jacking up the market for you folk. How much should I pay a girl per day to go to La Paz or Cabo or PV?
There has been a lot of talk of what girls could make. Anyone know their expenses when working the clubs.
I know a couple girls stayed at a hotel for weeks right next to the Tropical and the D&G. How much did they pay? Also knew a girl who was paying rent to an apartment kind of far away from the club. She is shy and will not tell me the details. She said the HK would pick her up. Do you think they do this for free? Guessing this would be a small expense every day twice a day. She seems happy with $200-$300 per day on a trip but I been spoiling her fine little ass and may need to find another one for that rate.
Guessing they have good expenses. I know their flights cheap. It was a club girl who showed me flights can be under $20. Still not sure how I feel about a $15 airline ticket.
I do not spend time with the girls who get 10+ dates a day. Yes these girls exist. They do not kiss. They do not mess around. Some do not do drinks with the customer. They are there and I avoid them.
The ones I see always talk about not making enough money. It is too bad because I think they are locas but do not sell it good enough in the clubs.
These girls may make a good amount of money but I am guessing each day after expenses it is probably a matter of hundreds of dollars. I am thinking 200-300 per day to travel to somewhere nice should make them happy.
DonCarlos1234
09-06-22, 10:08
Trying to stop jacking up the market for you folk. How much should I pay a girl per day to go to La Paz or Cabo or PV?
There has been a lot of talk of what girls could make. Anyone know their expenses when working the clubs.
I know a couple girls stayed at a hotel for weeks right next to the Tropical and the D&G. How much did they pay? Also knew a girl who was paying rent to an apartment kind of far away from the club. She is shy and will not tell me the details. She said the HK would pick her up. Do you think they do this for free? Guessing this would be a small expense every day twice a day. She seems happy with $200-$300 per day on a trip but I been spoiling her fine little ass and may need to find another one for that rate.
Guessing they have good expenses. I know their flights cheap. It was a club girl who showed me flights can be under $20. Still not sure how I feel about a $15 airline ticket.
I do not spend time with the girls who get 10+ dates a day. Yes these girls exist. They do not kiss. They do not mess around. Some do not do drinks with the customer. They are there and I avoid them.
The ones I see always talk about not making enough money. It is too bad because I think they are locas but do not sell it good enough in the clubs.
These girls may make a good amount of money but I am guessing each day after expenses it is probably a matter of hundreds of dollars. I am thinking 200-300 per day to travel to somewhere nice should make them happy.I am probably going to GDL to meet someone in a few weeks. Think I will offer her 3000 +/- pesos for each 1/2 day (about 6 hours) we spend together. We will tour around the city, dinner, sex, GFE. . So far she wants me to come but $ details not brought up yet. She lives there so no flights necessary. I would like some free time to wander the city by myself. MAYBE I would ask her to spend the nights also. MAYBE we would fly to PV etc. Later. MAYBE it is just a dream. She is HOT. LOL.
DramaFree11
09-06-22, 14:28
I am probably going to GDL to meet someone in a few weeks. Think I will offer her 3000 +/- pesos for each 1/2 day (about 6 hours) we spend together. We will tour around the city, dinner, sex, GFE. . So far she wants me to come but $ details not brought up yet. She lives there so no flights necessary. I would like some free time to wander the city by myself. MAYBE I would ask her to spend the nights also. MAYBE we would fly to PV etc. Later. MAYBE it is just a dream. She is HOT. LOL.I do not think 3000 pesos will be enough for what you are asking for, but you can try. Have fun.
Trying to stop jacking up the market for you folk. How much should I pay a girl per day to go to La Paz or Cabo or PV?
There has been a lot of talk of what girls could make. Anyone know their expenses when working the clubs.
I know a couple girls stayed at a hotel for weeks right next to the Tropical and the D&G. How much did they pay? Also knew a girl who was paying rent to an apartment kind of far away from the club. She is shy and will not tell me the details. She said the HK would pick her up. Do you think they do this for free? Guessing this would be a small expense every day twice a day. She seems happy with $200-$300 per day on a trip but I been spoiling her fine little ass and may need to find another one for that rate.
Guessing they have good expenses. I know their flights cheap. It was a club girl who showed me flights can be under $20. Still not sure how I feel about a $15 airline ticket.
I do not spend time with the girls who get 10+ dates a day. Yes these girls exist. They do not kiss. They do not mess around. Some do not do drinks with the customer. They are there and I avoid them..First off it's been some time since asking a girl what the hotel charges for them to stay. Before it was around $20 a day. I know 1 girl living in AB hotel but didn't ask her what she pays. I don't imagine it being more than $30. Even at that price it's over $200 a week and they could find a place in Tijuana for less than that per month. I just don't know with the demand in Tijuana going up if most renters want short time renters or some girls might feel safer in the hotel. In the past I knew a few girls that lived in an apartment in Zona Norte just a few blocks from the club and the ex used to live in Centro by the church.
Now the rest of a girls daily expense really depends on if the have a baby at home that they are supporting. I think if the girl has brought up going on a vacation she isn't looking for money, if you are the one trying to get her to go you more than likely will have to pay. You also have to hope she doesn't flake on you as you have learned these girls are very unpredictable. I knew a girl in GDL that showed me a copy of what the girls are supposed to charge for various dates and the price for them to travel with you in Mexico was 15,000 pesos per day. So if your girl knows you and feels comfortable with you I think your price is good. If she was the one that brought up the vacation and doesn't bring up money and she is like a girlfriend on the trip I'd still give her the money and let her know that it's more of a gift. Just don't try to take advantage of them the same way you wouldn't want them to take advantage of you.
Good luck with whatever you do and I'd only suggest to wait at least another month to go to those destinations as it's still hurricane season and not the best time to visit.
How much would you theoretically have to give a busy hk chica each month to offset her club earnings for her to sustain a living in mexico? This chica blew threw anything I gave her sooo quickly it was ridiculous. I suspected I was getting played but wasn't sure.Well here is a blog that gives you the annual salaries for physicians, one of the best paying professions in Mexico. On the other hand, I suspect that the average Mexican doctor need not the same level of recreation as your hk chica.
1. PEDIATRICIANS.
A professional specialized in the medical treatment of infants in Mexico usually has an average salary of 365,000 MXN per year.
2. GENERAL SURGEONS.
Those medical specialists focused on examining patients to detect whether or not there is a need for a patient to undergo a surgical procedure, usually earn an average of 380,375 pesos.
3. UROLOGISTS.
Specialists in the treatment of conditions related to the urinary tract and the reproductive system of men, usually earn a salary of 385,000 Mexican pesos per year.
4. PULMONOLOGY.
Doctors specialized in treating respiratory system conditions in Mexico have an average salary of MXN 401,125 per year.
5. MEDICAL RADIOLOGISTS.
An expert in the generation of images of the internal area of the human body, in order to diagnose the conditions that a patient may have, has an average salary of 429,250 Mexican pesos per year.
6. NEUROLOGISTS.
The specialists of the branch of medicine in Mexico who are responsible for treating conditions related to the nervous system, usually earn an average of 430,952 Mexican pesos per year.
7. ONCOLOGY.
Experts in diagnosing and treating cancer diseases tend to earn an average annual salary of 446,000 MXN in Mexico, taking into account the high demand for these types of professionals.
8. GASTROENTEROLOGISTS.
Those who specialize in treating disorders of the digestive system tend to have an average annual salary of 470,000 MXN.
https://www.bloghispanodenegocios.com/en/how-much-does-a-doctor-earn-in-mexico/
ABAJoeSmith123
09-08-22, 04:10
Well here is a blog that gives you the annual salaries for physicians, one of the best paying professions in Mexico. On the other hand, I suspect that the average Mexican doctor need not the same level of recreation as your hk chica.
1. PEDIATRICIANS.
A professional specialized in the medical treatment of infants in Mexico usually has an average salary of 365,000 MXN per year.
2. GENERAL SURGEONS.
Those medical specialists focused on examining patients to detect whether or not there is a need for a patient to undergo a surgical procedure, usually earn an average of 380,375 pesos.
3. UROLOGISTS.
Specialists in the treatment of conditions related to the urinary tract and the reproductive system of men, usually earn a salary of 385,000 Mexican pesos per year.LMAO how does this relate to HK puta earnings LOL.
LMAO how does this relate to HK puta earnings LOL.I guess what I am trying to say is that if you gave your HK chica $1,700 a month (380,000 pesos annually converted to USD per month), you are giving her the equivalent of a Mexican surgeon's salary tax-free. Because a surgeon is one of the top earners in Mexico, your HK chica should have more than enough to live on.
You are always fucking confused to as how much to give your HK chica. And I am saying that 1,700 is fucking plenty.
Captain Solo
09-08-22, 18:21
HK putas earn about 2 x to 5 x Mexico's doctors and AMLO.
I can see some girls asking 15 k pesos a day. Some of these locas are constantly being paid big bucks for one thing or another. Not sure of these are the best sex workers to take on vacation.
The loca who would agree to less than half that and knows she can get a lot more depending on how much fun she is. That is the loca I am looking for.
I got one already. Like anything we get used to one and want something new.
First off it's been some time since asking a girl what the hotel charges for them to stay. Before it was around $20 a day. I know 1 girl living in AB hotel but didn't ask her what she pays. I don't imagine it being more than $30. Even at that price it's over $200 a week and they could find a place in Tijuana for less than that per month. I just don't know with the demand in Tijuana going up if most renters want short time renters or some girls might feel safer in the hotel. In the past I knew a few girls that lived in an apartment in Zona Norte just a few blocks from the club and the ex used to live in Centro by the church.
Now the rest of a girls daily expense really depends on if the have a baby at home that they are supporting. I think if the girl has brought up going on a vacation she isn't looking for money, if you are the one trying to get her to go you more than likely will have to pay. You also have to hope she doesn't flake on you as you have learned these girls are very unpredictable. I knew a girl in GDL that showed me a copy of what the girls are supposed to charge for various dates and the price for them to travel with you in Mexico was 15,000 pesos per day. So if your girl knows you and feels comfortable with you I think your price is good. If she was the one that brought up the vacation and doesn't bring up money and she is like a girlfriend on the trip I'd still give her the money and let her know that it's more of a gift. Just don't try to take advantage of them the same way you wouldn't want them to take advantage of you.
Good luck with whatever you do and I'd only suggest to wait at least another month to go to those destinations as it's still hurricane season and not the best time to visit.
A girl who likes to work in GDL has quoted me something more. She is extremely unreliable so I never got into serious talks with her.
For a girl already in her hometown that is low but possible imo. Multiple girls I have gotten to know tell me the big money is in Tijuana. The other cities are lower expectations of revenue.
Starting to talk serious with a girl in Mexico city. That place seems to have potential.
I am probably going to GDL to meet someone in a few weeks. Think I will offer her 3000 +/- pesos for each 1/2 day (about 6 hours) we spend together. We will tour around the city, dinner, sex, GFE. . So far she wants me to come but $ details not brought up yet. She lives there so no flights necessary. I would like some free time to wander the city by myself. MAYBE I would ask her to spend the nights also. MAYBE we would fly to PV etc. Later. MAYBE it is just a dream. She is HOT. LOL.
DonCarlos1234
09-09-22, 11:21
HK putas earn about 2 x to 5 x Mexico's doctors and AMLO.Comparing full time HK workers to Part time (much less mileage) stunners.
Maybe I should go back to Colombia. I have free airfare. Nice rooms at $40-60 and better looking, less greedy chicas. $100 plus dinner and more GFE. Still in the past I found plenty of desirables in hktj but I take my time & am picky. . Either this weekend or in 2 weeks.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-09-22, 19:59
I guess what I am trying to say is that if you gave your HK chica $1,700 a month (380,000 pesos annually converted to USD per month), you are giving her the equivalent of a Mexican surgeon's salary tax-free. Because a surgeon is one of the top earners in Mexico, your HK chica should have more than enough to live on.
You are always fucking confused to as how much to give your HK chica. And I am saying that 1,700 is fucking plenty.Oh wow. So giving this chica $2000 on month was more than plenty. Her blowing through it in less than a month and needing another 2-3 k simply means she has no sense of financial control whatsoever. Thank you for explaining this to me. If she spends money this quickly, she's never going to get out of her prostitute life. She would've drained more money from me than the amount of semen she has drained from men.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-09-22, 20:06
I was fine for a few months giving this HK chica money since she had actually stopped working at the club since I felt bad that she gave up her work for me. But then she started asking me to pay for her flights to come to Tijuana bc she was short on cash despite my huge donations to her. That seemed very fishy to me. Seemed very weird for me to pay for her to come to Tijuana so I could give her even more money when she arrived when all I got in return was maybe a movie at plaza rio and maybe one sex session in whatever hotel she booked to stay the night at. Feels liberating to have finally severed my relationship with this chica as it was a financial sink hole. She was fking hot though. No question about that LOL. Was always one of the busiest arriba chicas at HK.
Captain Solo
09-10-22, 00:35
DIAZ VS FERGUSON.
SAT 9/10,7 PM / PT.
HK will stream the fight live on its huge monitor.
Any bro going?
Cocr Brotheler
09-10-22, 06:37
And end up like the old lady begging for change outside the church to the side side of ABs.
Haven't seen here last visit so think she may have passed. Looked like she was in her 70's last I saw here.
And end up like the old lady begging for change outside the church to the side side of ABs.
Haven't seen here last visit so think she may have passed. Looked like she was in her 70's last I saw here.Thought I read here or somewhere this week someone stabbed her recently. I believe she survived.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-10-22, 19:46
Hilarious and embarrassing story. Took an HK chica out for dinner in the city of tijuana on a date once. She showed up in the most revealing scandalous dress / outfit ever; could literally see her entire enormous tits except for the nipples. We had reservations at a pretty normal type restaurant so she stood out like a sore thumb as we walked the streets and sat down to eat in a normal part of tijuana. Soooooo embarrassing be / see I got so many looks, LOL. As luke powell says: Can take the stripper out of the club but can't take the club out of the stripper. Dressing like she does for HK has become so normal to her that apparently she thought she could dress like that outside the zona norte too, LOL. I never said anything out of respect but I was definitely quite embarrassed.
Any similar stories from other people?
I was fine for a few months giving this HK chica money since she had actually stopped working at the club since I felt bad that she gave up her work for me. But then she started asking me to pay for her flights to come to Tijuana bc she was short on cash despite my huge donations to her. That seemed very fishy to me. Seemed very weird for me to pay for her to come to Tijuana so I could give her even more money when she arrived when all I got in return was maybe a movie at plaza rio and maybe one sex session in whatever hotel she booked to stay the night at. Feels liberating to have finally severed my relationship with this chica as it was a financial sink hole. She was fking hot though. No question about that LOL. Was always one of the busiest arriba chicas at HK.You fly out to her. Tijuana is a city of vice. Fly her here, and you are tempting her with drugs, booze and sex in the bars. That is why she needs even more money when she arrives. I have had numerous HK meseros offer me drugs from coke to meth. Whatever I wanted. If they are willing to sell dope to me, they are selling dope to the chicas.
You fly her here, and HK meseros will sell her dope, clean out her purse, fuck her, and pimp her out to mongers so that she can make more money to support her drug habit. Why am I pointing to drugs? Because it is the fastest way to burn through a wallet. And I don't see how she can spend so much money so quick and not acquire assets in return. Other than drugs.
Fly out to her. Do not fly her into Tijuana.
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