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About half the girls I take up to my room will start the time on their phones after we get in the room. Just like in the real hobby world back in the US, some are clock watchers and other not so much.
. Most of these girls are decent people who have been dealt a lousy hand and are just trying to get through life like the rest of us!I set the timer so that we are all clear on how much time is left. And I use the timer to time my 'release' in the last minute. It's like a little challenge / sport.
I often look at the timer in the 2nd half of the session. It helps me plan my next steps and sets my expectations properly.
If I do not look at the timer in the last few minutes I will have anxiety on when the timer will pop.
I actually look at a computer screen for time. Helps me properly manage last few minutes.
If there is no timer by me at all I will have anxiety on when she could declare done.
So timer actually works well for me.
I definitel agree that these gals are decent and trying to get through life. But I do not think they are unhappy. I think some long timers have come to terms with it and view it as a solid economic foundation and a good quality of life (Karumi for example takes two one month vacations per year and will probably retire by age 40).
Good for you man! I agree these chicas didn't grow up thinking I'm going to service gringos or be a puta when they grew up. The only reason it is economically feasible for us to play south of the border is that it is legal and it is better value per dollar. You don't have to worry about being robbed by a pimp, arrested in a sting operation, or a rob from a sexworker that decides to high tail it after the money exchange. I hope the best for them, but most sadly seem to go down a vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs.I agree with all the advantages of Tijuana vs USA.
But I disagree that most go down vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs. While some do I think majority do not.
I think most long timer streetgirls and club gals have a solid foundation and I sense no addition to alcohol or drugs.
BrotherMouzone
06-12-23, 16:35
I agree with all the advantages of Tijuana vs USA.
But I disagree that most go down vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs. While some do I think majority do not.
I think most long timer streetgirls and club gals have a solid foundation and I sense no addition to alcohol or drugs.I agree, it's not been my experience at all that most girls are alcohol / drug-addicted. I have one current regular chica who likes to drink while she's working though is very far from an addict (as far as I know). In all my years going down to Tijuana don't think I've dealt with a single chice who's shown (at least outwardly) signs of alcohol or drug abuse. Maybe that's more prevalent with the chicas in their early 20's, who I've generally stayed away from in recent years (much too young for me at this point in my life. Girls that young basically look like kids to me LOL).
DramaFree11
06-12-23, 18:49
I agree with all the advantages of Tijuana vs USA.
But I disagree that most go down vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs. While some do I think majority do not.
I think most long timer streetgirls and club gals have a solid foundation and I sense no addition to alcohol or drugs.I have met a lot of Mexican Girls and they are totally opposite from American Chicks when it comes to substance abuse. Of the girls I have met maybe 5-10% are addicted to drugs or alcohol, probably even lower.
They do have major family issues, with jealous, controlling, sabotaging parents, or free-loading parents that send their daughters to work in the sex industry. Usually it is the mom.
LeeroyJenkins
06-12-23, 19:59
I set the timer so that we are all clear on how much time is left. And I use the timer to time my 'release' in the last minute. It's like a little challenge / sport.
I often look at the timer in the 2nd half of the session. It helps me plan my next steps and sets my expectations properly.
If I do not look at the timer in the last few minutes I will have anxiety on when the timer will pop.
I actually look at a computer screen for time. Helps me properly manage last few minutes.
If there is no timer by me at all I will have anxiety on when she could declare done.
So timer actually works well for me.
I definitel agree that these gals are decent and trying to get through life. But I do not think they are unhappy. I think some long timers have come to terms with it and view it as a solid economic foundation and a good quality of life (Karumi for example takes two one month vacations per year and will probably retire by age 40).I had one set her alarm to like 15 min I had 10 min left when her alarm went off and I cut a few min off before starting the clock from payment of room. That was a first. I didn't complain but no propina although service was good before cut short.
I agree with all the advantages of Tijuana vs USA.
But I disagree that most go down vicious cycle of alcohol and drugs. While some do I think majority do not.
I think most long timer streetgirls and club gals have a solid foundation and I sense no addition to alcohol or drugs.I think that for the club girls, they eventually turn into alcoholics considering how much alcohol they drink. Other girls turn to drugs because some of the meseros deal drug on the side and the girls have to find a mental escape of continuously fucking strangers they have no attraction to.
DramaFree11
06-13-23, 16:15
I think that for the club girls, they eventually turn into alcoholics considering how much alcohol they drink. Other girls turn to drugs because some of the meseros deal drug on the side and the girls have to find a mental escape of continuously fucking strangers they have no attraction to.In America this definitely true. The girls drinks for the most part in Mexico have little to no alcohol at strip clubs.
What's your experience guys? 30 minutes for $100 is it from leaving the HK club and returning to the HK club or from the exact moment you enter the room with chica and leave the room with chica? Because sometimes the travel time to get to the room takes more than 5 minutes (problems with the elevator) especially from the alley side. After sex, chica takes 5 minutes for personal washing and makeup. Another 5 minutes travel time to return to HK from the room. Sometimes the mesero also takes time because he brings a drink and 30 minutes for $100 turns into 15-20 minutes for $100. My opinion as an experienced union member the sex time in the room paying $100 should be exactly 30 minutes plus 5 minutes to travel time between the HK club and the room, 5 minutes travel time to return from the room to the HK club and 5 minutes extra for washing and makeup for chica in the room after sex. Total 45 minutes from leaving HK club to return to HK club not 30 minutes. That's my opinion.Been there since 2009, never ever a girl have tried to count the time since you leave HK door and finish it when you get in back. As you say, time starts when you get in the room and close the door. The annoying part is when the knock comes and some of the BGs tip the cumboys to knock early at the 20-25 minutes mark. It all depends on the girl actually, that is why it is important to see if she behaves like a shark or if she is cool and good with you downstairs.
I was in Tijuana recently for 4 days. Ended up doing 4 sessions in total, 2 with HK girls and 2 with street girls. The HK girls were Karen from Guadalajara and the other chick, Nancy, not sure where she was from. Forgot to ask. The 2 street girls were not bad looking but the hotel rooms were disgusting. However, both girls were nice and allowed me to take my time. The 2 HK girls were clearly better looking, especially Karen. However, I tried to repeat with Karen but she was flaky. I saw her only one more time, a big disappointment. Overall though I was satisfied with my trip. But, coming back to the US on last Sunday night was brutal. It was cold and the line was moving very slowly around 8 pm. The Sentri lane was closed down, hence everybody had to merge onto the general line. It was a mess!
Been there since 2009, never ever a girl have tried to count the time since you leave HK door and finish it when you get in back. As you say, time starts when you get in the room and close the door. The annoying part is when the knock comes and some of the BGs tip the cumboys to knock early at the 20-25 minutes mark. It all depends on the girl actually, that is why it is important to see if she behaves like a shark or if she is cool and good with you downstairs.Exactly it should be standard US $100/30 minutes from entering the room to leaving the room. (recently, a HK chica cheated on me with time). Few jobs in the US pay US $100/30 min. Maybe a lawyer, a doctor and a...... escort hooker. BTW a Mexican chica working in a maquiladora (Mexican factory near the US border) earns around US $100/ week.
I was in Tijuana recently for 4 days. Ended up doing 4 sessions in total, 2 with HK girls and 2 with street girls. The HK girls were Karen from Guadalajara and the other chick, Nancy, not sure where she was from. Forgot to ask. The 2 street girls were not bad looking but the hotel rooms were disgusting. However, both girls were nice and allowed me to take my time. The 2 HK girls were clearly better looking, especially Karen. However, I tried to repeat with Karen but she was flaky. I saw her only one more time, a big disappointment. Overall though I was satisfied with my trip. But, coming back to the US on last Sunday night was brutal. It was cold and the line was moving very slowly around 8 pm. The Sentri lane was closed down, hence everybody had to merge onto the general line. It was a mess!If you spent 4 days and had sessions with HK gals why didn't you stay in Cascadas? HK gals and many street girls come to Cascadas.
You wrote The Sentri lane was closed down.
Are you sure. In general before you get to US border guard there is no sentri line. You just walk to the head of the line and the US border security folks wave you in.
Has anyone else experienced Sentri lane closed?
MacNCheeze
06-16-23, 03:07
The Sentri lane was closed down, hence everybody had to merge onto the general line. It was a mess!Walking or driving? The pedestrian sentri line was blocked off several weeks back, so I just walked in the street to the left of the general line then hopped over at the very front holding my GE card up. Is it still blocked off?
In general before you get to US border guard there is no sentri line. You just walk to the head of the line and the US border security folks wave you in.The sentri line is usually to the right of the general line. There are signs and rails and stuff separating the lines in the last hundred yards or so before you get to the gate.
If you spent 4 days and had sessions with HK gals why didn't you stay in Cascadas? HK gals and many street girls come to Cascadas.
You wrote The Sentri lane was closed down.
Are you sure. In general before you get to US border guard there is no sentri line. You just walk to the head of the line and the US border security folks wave you in.
Has anyone else experienced Sentri lane closed?Going back down this weekend so if I have a US passport. I can skip that general line?? That I've been stupid enough to wait in before?
Also.. to everyone - its been maybe half a year since I've been down... have prices changed at all? specifically for drinks/girls drinks? looking at recent posts 100 for the girl still seems to be the standard
So my rare Tuesday visit finished in HK. I walked in the Chavelas entrance and couldn't believe how packed it was. Noticed some familiar faces working that was cool so I didn't have to deal with some waiter that I didn't know. So went t take a lap, in HK just to get an idea on the quality of talent, first HK was packed, this was close to midnight, my usual area was full so as I continued to walk in amazement at the great talent.
I noticed a really cute girl that I was giving a look at as I passed her and she caught me checking her out and mouthed hola to me 99 times out of 100 I would just say Hi and continue walking and maybe sit and watch her some to get an idea of her personality. Yet this time I immediately asked her to drink with me and make sure she didn't mind sitting in Chavelas. So she happily accepted, we both liked the music in Chavelas better and she told me she likes to drink so I really was lucky since I don't mind the girls that don't drink but definitely prefer girls that drink. Now when a girl tells me she like to drink I figured she can hold her liquor. Unfortunately this girl started ordering more tequila shots over beer and ended up tapping out and having to be taken away. Poor thing, hopefully she didn't get in trouble.
The next morning I had some time to kill and hung out in HK till checkout time. The talent was very bad but it was cool to see everyone dressed for the retro party and the place getting decorated.
Going back down this weekend so if I have a US passport. I can skip that general line?? That I've been stupid enough to wait in before??
also.. to everyone - its been maybe half a year since i've been down... have prices changed at all? specifically for drinks/girls drinks? looking at recent posts 100 for the girl still seems to be the standardIf you walk across with no Sentri card you need to stay in the general line. My advice is to cross before 2 pm at the PedWest which will be much faster or cross at the regular one after 8 pm so your wait isn't so long.
I think all bars are charging $10 for girls drinks these days.
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also.. to everyone - its been maybe half a year since i've been down... have prices changed at all? specifically for drinks/girls drinks? looking at recent posts 100 for the girl still seems to be the standardEye candy girls tend to ask for more than 100. Karen, my eye candy girl asked for 120 and I was not in a mood to negotiate.
If you spent 4 days and had sessions with HK gals why didn't you stay in Cascadas? HK gals and many street girls come to Cascadas.
You wrote The Sentri lane was closed down.
Are you sure. In general before you get to US border guard there is no sentri line. You just walk to the head of the line and the US border security folks wave you in.
Has anyone else experienced Sentri lane closed?The reason I did not stay in Cascadas was that I was visiting a friend who lives in San Diego. He had extra bedrooms in his house, and I took advantage of his time offer.
Regarding the Sentri lane, I started in the general lane, and eventually we reached an area where they had signs for Sentri lane. Not being familiar with the protocol, I moved to the right lane labeled Sentri. Much later as we got closer to the border agents facilities, we realized that all lanes, except the general lane, were blocked. People automatically started moving to the general lane, and folks already in that lane were not pleased. One fellow yelled at me, thinking that I was cutting in front of him. I let him go first then I followed right behind him. Once I got to the entrance, I showed the agent my global entry card, and it was smooth sailing after that.
If you walk across with no Sentri card you need to stay in the general line. My advice is to cross before 2 pm at the PedWest which will be much faster or cross at the regular one after 8 pm so your wait isn't so long.
I think all bars are charging $10 for girls drinks these days.If chica orders a glass of wine the price is $30 if I remember correctly.
The reason I did not stay in Cascadas was that I was visiting a friend who lives in San Diego. He had extra bedrooms in his house, and I took advantage of his time offer.
Regarding the Sentri lane, I started in the general lane, and eventually we reached an area where they had signs for Sentri lane. Not being familiar with the protocol, I moved to the right lane labeled Sentri. Much later as we got closer to the border agents facilities, we realized that all lanes, except the general lane, were blocked. People automatically started moving to the general lane, and folks already in that lane were not pleased. One fellow yelled at me, thinking that I was cutting in front of him. I let him go first then I followed right behind him. Once I got to the entrance, I showed the agent my global entry card, and it was smooth sailing after that.Are you talking about walking back to usa? I walk back 3 x week. There is construction taking place in Mexico on the walk to usa line. What your supposed to do is just walk on the street if you have to and cut everybody off and walk into usa if you have sentri or global entry.
If chica orders a glass of wine the price is $30 if I remember correctly.I guess I was just using common sense and figured he was asking about the most common drink ordered such as the small beer or juice the girls order. I don't think he expected someone to list every price for all the different possibilities on chica drink prices.
If chica orders a glass of wine the price is $30 if I remember correctly.I've never seen a girl order wine before hahaha but good to know.
Eye candy girls tend to ask for more than 100. Karen, my eye candy girl asked for 120 and I was not in a mood to negotiate.Wdym eye candy? I've had the "dancer" girls try to quote like 200 before and I was like nah I'm good thanks.
If you walk across with no Sentri card you need to stay in the general line. My advice is to cross before 2 pm at the PedWest which will be much faster or cross at the regular one after 8 pm so your wait isn't so long.
I think all bars are charging $10 for girls drinks these days.Sounds the same as last time, thanks.
When you say general line. We're talking about the one that stretches alllll the way back towards the shops and stuff right? Not the lines after you get past the checkpoint?
I think you got really unlucky. Have seen multiple girls and the time always starts in the room. Now rarely a girl will ask to leave after I finish but that is rare and she asked. More common for whatever the reason the loca stays longer.
There are people every where in the world who do not take the job of customer service seriously. This is very common in sex workers in the USA. The locas south of the border are top notch service providers in my experience.
What's your experience guys? 30 minutes for $100 is it from leaving the HK club and returning to the HK club or from the exact moment you enter the room with chica and leave the room with chica? Because sometimes the travel time to get to the room takes more than 5 minutes (problems with the elevator) especially from the alley side. After sex, chica takes 5 minutes for personal washing and makeup. Another 5 minutes travel time to return to HK from the room. Sometimes the mesero also takes time because he brings a drink and 30 minutes for $100 turns into 15-20 minutes for $100. My opinion as an experienced union member the sex time in the room paying $100 should be exactly 30 minutes plus 5 minutes to travel time between the HK club and the room, 5 minutes travel time to return from the room to the HK club and 5 minutes extra for washing and makeup for chica in the room after sex. Total 45 minutes from leaving HK club to return to HK club not 30 minutes. That's my opinion.
I've never seen a girl order wine before hahaha but good to know.
Not sure exactly when it started. It was not happening this time last year. The fall visits it was happening more often than not.
4th of July last year was the 2nd best time I have had down there. Went down there three weekends in row. Multiple ladies from Monterrey took me to paradise. Saw one of them again in Fall. She was all about the wine. Only girl I have bought wine as she is fun. The wine can easily be consumed faster than 3 beers. It is not good for us.
The Monterrey locas had me wondering what is going on in that town to give these locas magic pie.
When you say general line. We're talking about the one that stretches alllll the way back towards the shops and stuff right? Not the lines after you get past the checkpoint?Yes. And like I said if it's before 2 pm the PedWest will be much quicker but you have to walk over to it or have the taxi drop you on that side of the border.
Not sure exactly when it started. It was not happening this time last year. The fall visits it was happening more often than not.
4th of July last year was the 2nd best time I have had down there. Went down there three weekends in row. Multiple ladies from Monterrey took me to paradise. Saw one of them again in Fall. She was all about the wine. Only girl I have bought wine as she is fun. The wine can easily be consumed faster than 3 beers. It is not good for us.
The Monterrey locas had me wondering what is going on in that town to give these locas magic pie.You're talking about girls from monterrey working in HK? Or girls in Monterrey? I'm confused.
Yea its horrible for dudes. $30 a glass is more than USA rates at a top restaurant LOL.
2 part question for y'all. I should know this by now. But do we know what the shift rotation times are?
I know one shift ends around 1-2 am, yes? Only asking because its always nice to grab girls at the start of their shift than the end.
But separately, has anyone had any luck with chicas staying the night without asking for hundreds to just sleep?
Or is this really not a thing in HK / cascadas?
A morning sesh is always nice.
You're talking about girls from monterrey working in HK? Or girls in monterrey? I'm confused.
Yea its horrible for dudes. $30 a glass is more than USA rates at a top restaurant LOL.HK is turning into a clip joint now. Only *****house where they employ more men than women, treat you like complete shit, don't bring correct change, and charge 30 dollars for a tiny wine that you didn't approve, and people still go back.
Explorer8939
06-17-23, 02:47
Going back down this weekend so if I have a US passport. I can skip that general line?? That I've been stupid enough to wait in before??
also.. to everyone - its been maybe half a year since i've been down... have prices changed at all? specifically for drinks/girls drinks? looking at recent posts 100 for the girl still seems to be the standardUnless you have a Sentri pass, you must stay in the general lane.
As noted, PedWest is generally not crowded at all.
2 part question for why'all. I should know this by now. But do we know what the shift rotation times are?
I know one shift ends around 1-2 am, yes? Only asking because its always nice to grab girls at the start of their shift than the end.
But separately, has anyone had any luck with chicas staying the night without asking for hundreds to just sleep?
Or is this really not a thing in HK / cascadas?
A morning sesh is always nice.Hk girls are like high end real estate woman. They have a plan, business model, time is $$. Then you would have the hotel to navigate asuming your in hk hotel. So this is not happening. Unless you look like Pete Davidson. This stuff happens more and Chicago club but the problem is, if your asking, you don't have a bunch nights to work with. Any girl that agrees to go to your hotel after her shift, theres a good chance she doesn't end up going and now you just wasted a night. Plus your looking for morningg sex. I have had girls stay over free but they didn't give me morningg sex. They were just exhausted and wanted a night in a hotel I guess. As far as shifts. Just walk in Las chavelas where the girls have to wait a few hours before starting hk. Most of them haven't had much sex yet except for their boyfriends who probably aren't using condom so why worry about all that amyway.
2 part question for why'all. I should know this by now. But do we know what the shift rotation times are?
I know one shift ends around 1-2 am, yes? Only asking because its always nice to grab girls at the start of their shift than the end.
But separately, has anyone had any luck with chicas staying the night without asking for hundreds to just sleep?
Or is this really not a thing in HK / cascadas?
A morning sesh is always nice.
There's not really a set time for a particular shift. Girls can arrive pretty much whenever they wants as long as they stay for 8 hours straight.
With that being said, there are a group of girls who just happen to come in at around 8-9am for their day shift. These are girls who typically drop their kids off at school in the morning and want to be home when the kids get out. They might also have some other obligations at home or have strict husbands who want them back home at a decent hour. There's another group of girls who come in from 2-4pm. These are girls who also for some reason or another have to be back home before midnight, you can imagine why. Their boyfriends or husbands probably don't want them out all night getting fucked while they're stuck at home taking care of the kids. Then you have your last set of girls who come in around 6-8pm. These are girls who have no obligations and can do whatever the hell they want. They may have kids but they're being taken care of in another city or by other family members. Also, once a girl has completed her 8 hours she can stay as long as she wants after that but most typically leave after 8.
As far as getting girls to stay overnight for not a lot of money, it can be done but youre going to have to hunt for one. Most are going to quote several hundred dollars. Ive been able to find a couple who stay all night for below $200 but thats because I have known them for a while and have gained their trust. Theres even been a few times when they stay for free. At that point they basically have to want to spend the night with you, and not the other way around. One of them said she was offended because I had never asked her to spend the night with me. I told her that was something that was completely up to her and she could stay whenever she wanted lol. Ever since then we spend the night together several times a month without breaking the bank. She has gotten somewhat attached to me but that’s another story.
At Cascadas theyre pretty strict about letting their girls stay overnight. Youre going to have to get them to come in on their days off or pay a hefty bar fee to keep them in your room. Get another hotel room nearby or on Revolucion and have them meet you there.
There's not really a set time for a particular shift. Girls can arrive pretty much whenever they wants as long as they stay for 8 hours straight.
At Cascadas theyre pretty strict about letting their girls stay overnight. Youre going to have to get them to come in on their days off or pay a hefty bar fee to keep them in your room. Get another hotel room nearby or on Revolucion and have them meet you there.Thanks for the insight.
I didn't realize HK had strict rules about girls staying overnight even after their shifts. Its like after their shift its their free time yea?
Totally makes sense about building that trust. But obv a girl without other commitments / obligations.
Have you really noticed that many chicks with kids? Is it the lighting that makes it hard to see because I feel like I've personally never been with one.
Wish they had a system more similar to Thailand where there's common practice of ST / LT.
Thanks for the insight.
I didn't realize HK had strict rules about girls staying overnight even after their shifts. Its like after their shift its their free time yea?
Totally makes sense about building that trust. But obv a girl without other commitments / obligations.
Have you really noticed that many chicks with kids? Is it the lighting that makes it hard to see because I feel like I've personally never been with one.
Wish they had a system more similar to thailand where theres common practice of ST / LT.
If they haven't had to give birth via C section, you're not really going to be able to tell. I know a spinner at HK with 4 kids, has never had a C section and you would never know she is a mom if she didn't tell you. She even worked throughout most of her last pregnancy and nobody was able to notice.
2 part question for why'all. I should know this by now. But do we know what the shift rotation times are?
I know one shift ends around 1-2 am, yes? Only asking because its always nice to grab girls at the start of their shift than the end.
But separately, has anyone had any luck with chicas staying the night without asking for hundreds to just sleep?
Or is this really not a thing in HK / cascadas?
A morning sesh is always nice.I have done it before with no $ charge at the end, but for this my luck has started not at the beginning, but at the end of their shifts, some would be already tired but some would have still have the party vibe still going and alcohol also doing a part for it. Also some will still go for less, just if they like you and also because they already have money and a bit more will not be bad for them.
LeeroyJenkins
06-19-23, 19:19
2 part question for why'all. I should know this by now. But do we know what the shift rotation times are?
I know one shift ends around 1-2 am, yes? Only asking because its always nice to grab girls at the start of their shift than the end.
But separately, has anyone had any luck with chicas staying the night without asking for hundreds to just sleep?
Or is this really not a thing in HK / cascadas?
A morning sesh is always nice.I was told there are three shifts but I have noticed new girls coming in hourly, so it's hard to tell.
I was told there are three shifts but I have noticed new girls coming in hourly, so it's hard to tell.I don't think they have set times. Either they work day or night shift and work 8 hours Sun-Thurs. And Fri-Sat are 9 hour shifts. I'm pretty sure they mainly care if the chicas sell drinks for the club and the chicas get their 35-50 pesos from the drink in the form of a ticket. The $30 wine bottle I think gets them 150 pesos. It is the reason they push to go upstairs instead of wasting time with small talk and drinks. At the rate they are going, the chicas and club are going to price out their locals. It is still the best deal for SoCal residents, but if flying in from another location, then pretty sure you can find other options like DR, Colombia, or if willing to sit for the long trip to SEA.
If they haven't had to give birth via C section, you're not really going to be able to tell. I know a spinner at HK with 4 kids, has never had a C section and you would never know she is a mom if she didn't tell you. She even worked throughout most of her last pregnancy and nobody was able to notice.
I have done it before with no $ charge at the end, but for this my luck has started not at the beginning, but at the end of their shifts, some would be already tired but some would have still have the party vibe still going and alcohol also doing a part for it. Also some will still go for less, just if they like you and also because they already have money and a bit more will not be bad for them.
I was told there are three shifts but I have noticed new girls coming in hourly, so it's hard to tell.Ok just got back home from a serious fkin bender. But here's the quick recap.
So I'm horrible with names. Hardly remember what names these girls told me vs. What their instagram names are LOL.
I was also shit faced drunk like 90% of the time... context, I'm in my early 30's and so are my buddies. we're all objectively good looking, well dressed/mannered and know how to have a good time.
Girl #2, Sun 11 am , best looking one at that time, needed to nut and sleep.
6/10, darker skinned than my usual type, but tight body and ok face.
CBJ because she needs to "trust guys more" which sucked. But I fked her with every ounce of energy I had left and slept after.
$100 flat, no tip because of the BJ thing, 35 min?
Girl #3, Sun 5 pm , pretty girl with a nose job.
7.5/10, fair skinned, pretty face nice body.
BBBJ, no kissing but not the biggest issue, a little mechanical but she loosened up a bit more at the end and asked me to find her again whenever I was ready.
She was hot enough, but service wasn't amazing enough for me to repeat. Maybe if I had more time than 2 nights.
$110,45 min.
Girl #4, Sun 10 pm, the HOTTEST girl I've ever seen in HK.
9.5/10, fair skinned, gorgeous face, smoking body. Fake tits but nicely done.
Girl had like 95 k followers on IG. But clearly bot farm because posts get like 300 likes.
Its not an exaggeration that when my buddy and I saw her. We literally stopped & headed out for a smoke immediately to chat HAHA.
We assumed she was going to charge a lot beyond 100 due to her looks. But I bit the bullet and just tested the waters.
She was ordering the BS $30 wine drink. First time seeing that. She finished her first drink & she whispered $150 in my ear.
Bingo was his name O boys! I said yes & she started kissing me on the neck and face.
Go upstairs after the 2nd drink and this girl was a freak. Fkin drinkin tequila with me from a bottle I had in my room and when I wanted a shot, she'd transfer from her mouth to mine haha so hot.
Lowkey she thanked me when we got upstairs for taking her because when we came back inside from smoking, she was getting groped on by an old local who wasn't even tipping lmao.
Anyways, SMOKING hot. Amazing in bed. Prolly woulda offered extras if I asked but I was also on my last $$$ and fuckin burnt tired.
$150 and she stayed 1. 5 hours just chillin on bed with me after we both nutted.
Wish I found her on day 1 because I woulda repeated as many times with her as possible.
Girl #1, Sat 11 pm-12 am? 2nd hottest girl of the trip.
8/10, fair skinned, pretty face, toned body, small natural tits.
From the get go the girl was really affectionate. She initiated making out in the club, in the room, etc. GFE without me really asking for anything.
Literally NOTHING to complain about the service. Was definitely amazing.
We get to the room and first thing she asked me was how long I wanted her for. I jokingly said, how about all night?
She then asked me how much I was willing to pay, I threw the question back to her and it came right back to me. So I said how about 300.
She said GOOD, lets go.
In the MIDDLE of fucking. I hear a knock on my door. I'm obviously livid as shit at this point.
Dudes from HK were saying that because I pulled the girl out before her shift ended. I had to pay THEM extra for the girl? WTF.
I've never had that happen before and I'm like BRO I already paid her extra, why you fuckers?
But I was also tired, drunk & got to naked girl in my bed with my fresh dick still on her breath. So I gave them my card and ID to charge me $250.
Maybe the girl was in on it but the dude said it was a new rule as of April?? Idk.
In that moment, I'm just like. I'm going to back charge this shit on my card because its horseshit.
Next morning I go talk to the manager and they can't even FIND the transaction in any of their logs. So I'm GOD damn pissed.
She never gave any indication of being in on it? She stayed the night, cuddle whatever sex in the morning around 6 am and she leaves after to go back to her home town.
Never saw here again after.
Honestly I should have answered the door butt naked and told them "you guys going to finish me or you going to let her?
All in all it was a great trip. No BIG disappointments from a service standpoint. Had fun with the boys.
Girls were all in their early to mid-twenties at most just eyeball test. Ofc they all say they're 18-23.
Got the IG of girls #1 and 4 and they both asked if / when I come back that they'd like to go to rosarito or something for fun.
So that makes me happy.
But HK has changed. No more smoking inside, security is SUPER strict now. And there are like a million more meseros. Its like 2 meseros for every girl.
Translation its 5 meseros for every girl that's actually fkable.
Unless something happened recently? HK needs to chill the fuck out and focus more on THEIR service beyond anything else.
And there are like a million more meseros. Its like 2 meseros for every girl.
Translation its 5 meseros for every girl that's actually fkable.
Unless something happened recently?? HK needs to chill the fuck out and focus more on THEIR service beyond anything else.Thanks for the report. They should adopt service workers like in Macau which are Vietnamese ladies that offer massages for shoulders, feet, thigh, ear cleaning, etc. Macau saunas you get treated like a king. All you can eat and drink with one Viet lady cleaning your ears, while another is giving you a "thigh" massage which is actually a hand job under a towel and you're sitting in a lounger with sports on the tv or movie you pick. The thigh massage is just getting you prepped for the international line up where you can select ladies from various countries. Once in a lifetime experience every monger brother should partake.
You actually can have a decent time by waiving off the meseros constantly, but the chicas can't help you decline services or they get reprimanded. I recall some chicas giving me the look not to keep ordering as they would rather get the money in tips. They get a paltry sum from the drinks we buy for them. I personally wouldn’t pay $150 for a 30min. session in Mexico, but it seems you got a good deal and chemistry with the chica. When they quote high, then I just assume she isnt interested.
You walk into HK and there are no waiters at all. Only bartenders and hot girls. But, to get that fantasy you have an entrance fee of 25.00. If you want a drink, the girl walks to the bar to get the drinks. You take a girl up and there is no robe fee guy. The mama San gives you the key and says we will call the room in 30 minutes. Phone rings and you get dressed and leave. No cum boy knocking on your door and he is forbidden from talking to you because he has to wait until everyone is gone to clean the room. What business model makes more money in the long term.
Thanks for the report. They should adopt service workers like in Macau which are Vietnamese ladies that offer massages for shoulders, feet, thigh, ear cleaning, etc. Macau saunas you get treated like a king. All you can eat and drink with one Viet lady cleaning your ears, while another is giving you a "thigh" massage which is actually a hand job under a towel and you're sitting in a lounger with sports on the tv or movie you pick. The thigh massage is just getting you prepped for the international line up where you can select ladies from various countries. Once in a lifetime experience every monger brother should partake.
You actually can have a decent time by waiving off the meseros constantly, but the chicas can't help you decline services or they get reprimanded. I recall some chicas giving me the look not to keep ordering as they would rather get the money in tips. They get a paltry sum from the drinks we buy for them. I personally wouldnt pay $150 for a 30min. session in Mexico, but it seems you got a good deal and chemistry with the chica. When they quote high, then I just assume she isnt interested.Woah this sounds interesting but I thought Macau was kinda dead after the hole crackdown?
For Tijuana, the $150 actually ended up being 1. 5 hours. Chica stayed extra long. But again, think of the hottest celebrity you can think of. And add 2 points. That's how hot this girl was.
I work in fashion and I see models all the time, this girl was making me fuckin salivate LIVE. I was ready to wife her up because of how how she was.
Woah this sounds interesting but I thought macau was kinda dead after the hole crackdown?Yeah sounds wonderful, but I was thinking the same thing. In fact, it was very recently that I was doing some research on Macau as a potential future destination. It seemed to me that most of the best action had been shut down making it no longer as desirable a destination for people like "us".
Ok just got back home from a serious fkin bender. But here's the quick recap.
So I'm horrible with names. Hardly remember what names these girls told me vs. What their instagram names are LOL.
i was also shit faced drunk like 90% of the time... context, i'm in my early 30's and so are my buddies. we're all objectively good looking, well dressed/mannered and know how to have a good time.
Girl #2, Sun 11 am , best looking one at that time, needed to nut and sleep.
6/10, darker skinned than my usual type, but tight body and ok face.
CBJ because she needs to "trust guys more" which sucked. But I fked her with every ounce of energy I had left and slept after.
$100 flat, no tip because of the BJ thing, 35 min?
Girl #3, Sun 5 pm , pretty girl with a nose job.
7. 5/10, fair skinned, pretty face nice body.
BBBJ, no kissing but not the biggest issue, a little mechanical but she loosened up a bit more at the end and asked me to find her again whenever I was ready.
She was hot enough, but service wasn't amazing enough for me to repeat. Maybe if I had more time than 2 nights.
$110,45 min.
Girl #4, Sun 10 pm , the HOTTEST girl I've ever seen in HK.
9. 5/10, fair skinned, gorgeous face, smoking body. Fake tits but nicely done.
Girl had like 95 k followers on IG. But clearly bot farm because posts get like 300 likes.
Its not an exaggeration that when my buddy and I saw her. We literally stopped & headed out for a smoke immediately to chat HAHA.
We assumed she was going to charge a lot beyond 100 due to her looks. But I bit the bullet and just tested the waters.
She was ordering the BS $30 wine drink. First time seeing that. She finished her first drink & she whispered $150 in my ear.I speculate that once you agreed to pay triple the average rate, you got the real HK VIP service. She texted her boys that you were drunk and had an open wallet. You actually gave them your card and ID? You probably want to ask your CC company to send you a new card.
You walk into HK and there are no waiters at all. Only bartenders and hot girls. But, to get that fantasy you have an entrance fee of 25.00. If you want a drink, the girl walks to the bar to get the drinks. You take a girl up and there is no robe fee guy. The mama San gives you the key and says we will call the room in 30 minutes. Phone rings and you get dressed and leave. No cum boy knocking on your door and he is forbidden from talking to you because he has to wait until everyone is gone to clean the room. What business model makes more money in the long term.Would def be nice. More upscale service. But NGL. There are a LOT of rowdy ratchet dudes in HK that are blowing paychecks. Idk if they care about that stuff. Personally, I'd love it if the bartenders were girls too. And the chicas bring me my drinks, don't need to wear those ridiculous 8 inch heels. Make them look taller and more slender than they actually are LOL. Avg height must be like 5'1-2. But with heels their avg is now like 5'7 haha.
Yeah sounds wonderful, but I was thinking the same thing. In fact, it was very recently that I was doing some research on Macau as a potential future destination. It seemed to me that most of the best action had been shut down making it no longer as desirable a destination for people like "us".Macau has been dead for years no? It was macau first, then dongguan, then all of China harder to access unless you go through local contacts. Idk, Bangkok is still there, idk about rest of SEA.
After my drunk girl on Tuesday I decided to see if she was working on Sunday. Walked in close to midnight and the place was still crowded, yet the selection of girls seemed worse than Tuesday. I hadn't been impressed with the talent the last time I was in HK on a Sunday as well. When discussing this with my waiter he agreed and said he thinks Tuesday nights have become better than Sunday. Also this is the first time I noticed a female worker on the HK side with a big tattoo on her neck that was stopping girls from doing lap dances, and trying to push the lap dance. I'll have to find out more about this stupid rule if I notice it again next time.
BTW for some reason it was mucho warmer on the Chavelas side and I would have to occasionally go sit in HK for some time just to get cool air.
Ok just got back home from a serious fkin bender. But here's the quick recap.
In that moment, I'm just like. I'm going to back charge this shit on my card because its horseshit.
Next morning I go talk to the manager and they can't even FIND the transaction in any of their logs.
So I already filed the back charge through my bank / CC. Because not only was it a BS charge. They lost my drivers license in the process. And didn't have any log of the transaction the following day.
Question for all here.
Assuming my bank is going to contact Cascadas / HK. If they get in touch and whatever happens. Am I going to get blackballed / banned from HK now? Because they have the copy of my ID from check-in.
RedBaron78
06-21-23, 05:46
So I already filed the back charge through my bank / CC. Because not only was it a BS charge. They lost my drivers license in the process. And didn't have any log of the transaction the following day.
Question for all here .
Assuming my bank is going to contact Cascadas / HK. If they get in touch and whatever happens. Am I going to get blackballed / banned from HK now? Because they have the copy of my ID from check-in.That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.
RedBaron78
06-21-23, 05:51
That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.I also wouldn't have paid them. Nobody told you you'd have to pay a fee. That's not your fault. If the girl gets in trouble that's her problem because she knows the rules. HK is never consistent with anything. Sometimes they charge $300 to take the girl all night. I've had people tell me they paid HK a $200 fee. But if they say $250 and you pay it they'll take it. I would have said no. The girl would have left and I would have gone on with my night.
That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.
I also wouldn't have paid them. Nobody told you you'd have to pay a fee. That's not your fault. If the girl gets in trouble that's her problem because she knows the rules. HK is never consistent with anything. Sometimes they charge $300 to take the girl all night. I've had people tell me they paid HK a $200 fee. But if they say $250 and you pay it they'll take it. I would have said no. The girl would have left and I would have gone on with my night.It was a Saturday night so maybe it was that? Took her around peak time.
You're 100% right. Only excuse I have was that I was shitfaced and I shit you not I was mid-sex when the knock came and little brain took control LOL.
Good idea on just using 100% cash if I'm afraid of being blacklisted.
BrotherMouzone
06-21-23, 09:53
That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.That's interesting. I know Adelitas is closed now but didn't even know you could use credit cards at Adelitas. Always thought they were cash only though I never asked.
After my drunk girl on Tuesday I decided to see if she was working on Sunday. Walked in close to midnight and the place was still crowded, yet the selection of girls seemed worse than Tuesday. I hadn't been impressed with the talent the last time I was in HK on a Sunday as well. When discussing this with my waiter he agreed and said he thinks Tuesday nights have become better than Sunday. Also this is the first time I noticed a female worker on the HK side with a big tattoo on her neck that was stopping girls from doing lap dances, and trying to push the lap dance. I'll have to find out more about this stupid rule if I notice it again next time.
BTW for some reason it was mucho warmer on the Chavelas side and I would have to occasionally go sit in HK for some time just to get cool air.It is common to find various security watching the girls interact with you and if a lap dance gets too wild, then they push for VIP. If the chica continues being wild without you taking them VIP, then they get reprimanded. The lap dance isn't wild, but normal in USA Clubs, but just another HK way to fleece their patrons. Never used to be like this before. Crazy thing is in the past had a chica riding cowgirl on second floor and nobody complained, but meseros kept coming by to ask if I want to buy the fichas. I either got the chica shots or just waived them off. Miss those crazy times. I guess they want to make it a tame gentlemen's club. They should make it like a circus similar to Thailand where chicks blow darts from their snatch or other various shows. Only thing similar I saw was some chica smoking a cigarette from her snatch when smoking was allowed in the club. I'm still puzzled how they can do it.
So I already filed the back charge through my bank / CC. Because not only was it a BS charge. They lost my drivers license in the process. And didn't have any log of the transaction the following day.
Question for all here .
Assuming my bank is going to contact Cascadas / HK. If they get in touch and whatever happens. Am I going to get blackballed / banned from HK now? Because they have the copy of my ID from check-in.Well HK has been charging for girls staying in the room during their shift for some time now. Before they would only charge a bar fine if you left with the girl, many girls began spending most of their shift in guys hotel room which meant less girls in the club selling fichas. So they've become more strict. I'm not sure how they knew the girl was going to spend the rest of the night with you unless your girl told them but the was you described the transaction this wasn't brought up till you were in the room so I'm still confused. The girl definitely knew you would have to pay if she stayed with you but I'm sure she didn't want to bring it up since you would've probably not taken her for so long.
To me $250 I don't think is going to cause you to become homeless I'd just chalk it up as a learning experience. I remember a story a few years ago about some rapper or athlete that went to a strip club and used his AMEX at the club to get $20 k in cash from the club, he spent 10 k and called the card the next day to dispute the charge. They reimbursed him but he was bragging about it on social media and was caught. I personally don't bring any plastic in the club to keep me from being to stupid when I drink too much.
It is common to find various security watching the girls interact with you and if a lap dance gets too wild, then they push for VIP. If the chica continues being wild without you taking them VIP, then they get reprimanded. The lap dance isn't wild, but normal in USA Clubs, but just another HK way to fleece their patrons. Never used to be like this before. Crazy thing is in the past had a chica riding cowgirl on second floor and nobody complained, but meseros kept coming by to ask if I want to buy the fichas. I either got the chica shots or just waived them off. Miss those crazy times. I guess they want to make it a tame gentlemen's club. They should make it like a circus similar to Thailand where chicks blow darts from their snatch or other various shows. Only thing similar I saw was some chica smoking a cigarette from her snatch when smoking was allowed in the club. I'm still puzzled how they can do it.Well I know I've read about this sometimes happening but this is the first time I've seen it. The girl wasn't security just had a pad of papers which I imagine were the lap dance tickets. I have never seen this girl selling these things before and the vibe in the club was much different on Sunday compared to Tuesday. On Tuesday the girl I was drinking with was like an Energizer bunny giving me a lap dance the whole time and always keeping my hands on her breasts. I'll find out more on my next visit maybe they are just stricter if your no buying drinks.
RedBaron78
06-22-23, 02:43
Well I know I've read about this sometimes happening but this is the first time I've seen it. The girl wasn't security just had a pad of papers which I imagine were the lap dance tickets. I have never seen this girl selling these things before and the vibe in the club was much different on Sunday compared to Tuesday. On Tuesday the girl I was drinking with was like an Energizer bunny giving me a lap dance the whole time and always keeping my hands on her breasts. I'll find out more on my next visit maybe they are just stricter if your no buying drinks.The girl walking around with these tickets works in the Miami room. She's security (the girl you tip) that gives you the booth for a lap dance. She told me she is selling a lap dance pass. If I remember right she said it was $30. If you buy it, you can take any girl to the Miami room (not in the booth) and the girl can dance on you all she wants. Apparently you can take all the girls you want to the Miami room as long as you buy this $30 lap dance pass.
Buying this would only make sense if you already knew the girl, you know she's going to be fun, and you want to hang out with her for a while having fun in the club. If it's not someone you already know, maybe the girl doesn't even want to give a lap dance in the club. And who wants to tell the girls your bought a lap dance pass so so we should go sit in the Miami room. I'd never buy something like this.
The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.
The girl walking around with these tickets works in the Miami room. She's security (the girl you tip) that gives you the booth for a lap dance. She told me she is selling a lap dance pass. If I remember right she said it was $30. If you buy it, you can take any girl to the Miami room (not in the booth) and the girl can dance on you all she wants. Apparently you can take all the girls you want to the Miami room as long as you buy this $30 lap dance pass.
Buying this would only make sense if you already knew the girl, you know she's going to be fun, and you want to hang out with her for a while having fun in the club. If it's not someone you already know, maybe the girl doesn't even want to give a lap dance in the club. And who wants to tell the girls your bought a lap dance pass so so we should go sit in the Miami room. I'd never buy something like this.
The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.Thanks for the information, I don't ever have an issue with HK trying to make more money but would bug me if this happened to me and I'd probably tell her to F off.
Ok just got back home from a serious fkin bender. But here's the quick recap.
So I'm horrible with names. Hardly remember what names these girls told me vs. What their instagram names are LOL.
i was also shit faced drunk like 90% of the time... context, i'm in my early 30's and so are my buddies. we're all objectively good looking, well dressed/mannered and know how to have a good time.
Girl #2, Sun 11 am , best looking one at that time, needed to nut and sleep.
6/10, darker skinned than my usual type, but tight body and ok face.
CBJ because she needs to "trust guys more" which sucked. But I fked her with every ounce of energy I had left and slept after.
$100 flat, no tip because of the BJ thing, 35 min?.That's an interesting moment to use your card. The 1 and only time I used my card foe the hotel their was fraud charges around the world within a couple hours. It's possible they simply wanted your license. To use for something. Personally I would never return if I was gona Dona charge back. I'd be afraid of winding up in Mexican jail. But. How would hk ever win that dispute? I'm gona have to go out on a limb, without being a lawyer, and without being from Mexico, and say. That the whole idea of making a guy pay money for a girl leaving her job early isn't legal. You can't even smoke in bars in Mexico but that's legal? And I won't get I to the whole aspect that these hotels, legally, from what others write, have nothing to do with the bars underneath, legally. You see my point? I haven't had a girl flirt with me the last 35 times in hk. The last time one did I also got told I had to pay for the VIP booth. I was annoyed. Hk already priced me out of sex. But now I can't buy fichas if the girls gona flirt with me? Ok no problem. The last 35 times I went I bought 1 ficha maybe. And tipped the girls on stages and left within 25 minutes. Not that the other bars were much better with the flirting but at least it wasn't like they told other girls in other bars to stop flirting.
The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.I think every business model includes this ideology.
The girl walking around with these tickets works in the Miami room. She's security (the girl you tip) that gives you the booth for a lap dance. She told me she is selling a lap dance pass. If I remember right she said it was $30. If you buy it, you can take any girl to the Miami room (not in the booth) and the girl can dance on you all she wants. Apparently you can take all the girls you want to the Miami room as long as you buy this $30 lap dance pass.
Buying this would only make sense if you already knew the girl, you know she's going to be fun, and you want to hang out with her for a while having fun in the club. If it's not someone you already know, maybe the girl doesn't even want to give a lap dance in the club. And who wants to tell the girls your bought a lap dance pass so so we should go sit in the Miami room. I'd never buy something like this.
The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.I would have to guess, that hk has a lot of available hotel rooms not being used, if they are so determined to avoid guys flirting in the club and then not needing sex. To me, 10 dollar ficha, which is really 15 when average put the expensive drinks some girls get, of hk gets 11 of that, the girl gets 3 or 4, 1 dollar for the cost of it, and then the waiter gets paid a tip, and the waiter pays to go to work in Hong Kong many guys have written. Hence the 1000 waiters in Hong Kong. So I'm not sure if hk made the est economic decision, which was essentially, "let's male sure they keep paying for hotels rooms and not just coming here to hang out flirt with woman and leave". To me I'm seeing signs that they are losing customers as even with Adelitas gone there's not a lot large crowds many nights of the weak. You wonder if the desire for quick $$ now, all at once will eliminate the whole scene as people stop coming and prices increase to make up for lost business which is the Tijuana business model.
I would have to guess, that hk has a lot of available hotel rooms not being used, if they are so determined to avoid guys flirting in the club and then not needing sex. To me, 10 dollar ficha, which is really 15 when average put the expensive drinks some girls get, of hk gets 11 of that, the girl gets 3 or 4, 1 dollar for the cost of it, and then the waiter gets paid a tip, and the waiter pays to go to work in Hong Kong many guys have written. Hence the 1000 waiters in Hong Kong. So I'm not sure if hk made the est economic decision, which was essentially, "let's male sure they keep paying for hotels rooms and not just coming here to hang out flirt with woman and leave". To me I'm seeing signs that they are losing customers as even with Adelitas gone there's not a lot large crowds many nights of the weak. You wonder if the desire for quick $$ now, all at once will eliminate the whole scene as people stop coming and prices increase to make up for lost business which is the Tijuana business model.As I understand it. Because of the Pandemic, we were hit with 3 hyper inflations. The 1st one was durable goods where people spent to buy giant TVs. I cannot Remember what the 3rd one was, but the 2nd one was revenge inflation where everyone spent for hotels and travel, and that is what HK was. I don't know how far Mexico trails, the United States, but I know that the 1st hyperinflation is now starting to deflate. And the revenge inflation have flattened. I wonder if HK is facing the same thing.
Captain Solo
06-22-23, 17:53
Every time my wingmen and I used the ATMs machines in Cascada, in the alley or around Tijuana bar block, our cards have been cloned or copied, and unauthorized charges in the US started to show up a few weeks later.
My cards had a few $200's cash withdrawals, also $500's purchase at a Pizza Hut. All charges were in the US. Cards companies were quick to alert us and refund the charges.
Don't let waiters walk away with your cards. Do all processing in front of you so they don't have time to clone the cards.
HK sucks. I can promise you they have and will lose more customers with their BS. Guys don't want to go to a strip club and be surrounded by men. It's just not why we go. We want female energy. Even in Brazil the guys are now asking for tips. The security when you leave is asking for tips at the termas. He does absolutely nothing but grab my receipt. I hope Brazil termas don't become like HK where it's non stop tips tips from bartenders security front desk. They think I'm a ATM.
BrotherMouzone
06-22-23, 20:50
Every time my wingmen and I used the ATMs machines in Cascada, in the alley or around Tijuana bar block, our cards have been cloned or copied, and unauthorized charges in the US started to show up a few weeks later.
LOL, this is why I don't use ATMs in Tijuana PERIOD. Have yet to ever use one in all my years going down there. If I need to I'd actually much rather quickly go back across the border and use an ATM in San Ysidro rather than taking my chances with one in Tijuana. I do use my credit card quite a bit though in Tijuana (e. G. , booking room at Cascadas, at various reputable restaurants) but have never experienced any issues with any of that.
LOL, this is why I don't use ATMs in Tijuana PERIOD. Have yet to ever use one in all my years going down there. If I need to I'd actually much rather quickly go back across the border and use an ATM in San Ysidro rather than taking my chances with one in Tijuana. I do use my credit card quite a bit though in Tijuana (e. G. , booking room at Cascadas, at various reputable restaurants) but have never experienced any issues with any of that.I ALWAYS exchange money at the HSBC ATM inside the Calimax supermarket at Constitution & Benito Juarzez. Because Schwab offers the best exchange rate and rebates ATM fees.
I have also used another bank's ATM machine once.
I pay for my room at Cascadas with the Schwab debit card when exchange rate is higher than the hotel's exchange rate. Yes they take copy of your driver's license.
No issues so far.
LOL, this is why I don't use ATMs in Tijuana PERIOD. Have yet to ever use one in all my years going down there. If I need to I'd actually much rather quickly go back across the border and use an ATM in San Ysidro rather than taking my chances with one in Tijuana. I do use my credit card quite a bit though in Tijuana (e. G. , booking room at Cascadas, at various reputable restaurants) but have never experienced any issues with any of that.Never had issues with ATMs in Tijuana at any of the banks, Banorte, HSBC, Santander, etc. Just don't use BBVA as they won't let you decline their crap conversion. Anybody in the ZN is a sucker ready to be fleeced of their dinero. The most I've been fleeced are by the policia whenever I drive into the area. Just take a Didi or Uber and save from the policia trying to fine you for various violations. Always use credit card so you can dispute things later if you don't recognize transaction.
HK sucks. I can promise you they have and will lose more customers with their BS. Guys don't want to go to a strip club and be surrounded by men. It's just not why we go. We want female energy. Even in Brazil the guys are now asking for tips. The security when you leave is asking for tips at the termas. He does absolutely nothing but grab my receipt. I hope Brazil termas don't become like HK where it's non stop tips tips from bartenders security front desk. They think I'm a ATM.HK isn't losing customers. I think the chicas probably get less Arribas, but no strip joint I've been to compares to HK. If you have been, then please let us know. They have chicas on every pole throughout the bar. I'm not sure why Tropical, Chicago, Adelitas, or any other club in Mexico doesn't do the same. They are rather tame compared to HK. Only other location with strip joint of HK magnitude is probably Thailand, but they just do a shuffle and not performance on the pole. The only downfall of HK is not being able to attract enough talent to keep guys entertained. It used to have a lot of thin natural spinners, but it seems like more overweight, bbl, operated on chicas in the club. Also if you think of their clientele, it is mostly gringos trying to escape being persecuted in USA For their sexual desires. Most don't want to travel across the world in order to find some women willing to do something strange for some change.
Never had issues with ATMs in Tijuana at any of the banks, Banorte, HSBC, Santander, etc. Just don't use BBVA as they won't let you decline their crap conversion. Anybody in the ZN is a sucker ready to be fleeced of their dinero. The most I've been fleeced are by the policia whenever I drive into the area. Just take a Didi or Uber and save from the policia trying to fine you for various violations. Always use credit card so you can dispute things later if you don't recognize transaction.I know it's been talked about before but the best thing to do with the police is to call them on their bluff, I know it's hard especially those that don't speak Spanish and just want to go. The only problem is this just encourages the police to continue harassing people especially tourists. If you are driving in Tijuana or really just visiting you might want to download a couple of different APPS the city has come up with.
Buton morado is supposed to be able to track your location and send police to help you.
Buton de Emergencia which seems to be very similar but more for those with needs of fire or paramedics.
Now personally I have not tried it and some may think getting the attention of more police will be a bad thing. I think the police just seeing that you are aware of these APPS and have them on your phone will make them less likely to continue to bug you and let you go.
Some others have talked about having the phone number of "Sindicatura" to let the police know they will be reported.
I understand that all of this seems like to much work and most just take a taxi or the shuttles to make it all easier but those that enjoy driving to the Zona shouldn't be dissuade from doing so.
One last thing about this is last weekend in Rosarito some government officials had people distributing flyers to everyone that discussed what laws the police had and didn't have and that to never pay a bribe or fine to a police officer. The article is attached, so these laws would also apply to the police in Tijuana and maybe a good thing to keep on your phone if stopped. The more knowledgeable you seem and not afraid of them the more likely they are to let you go. The second link has a better copy of the laws.
https://zetatijuana.com/2023/06/no-den-mordidas-a-policias-volantean-empresarios-en-rosarito/
https://zetatijuana.com/2023/06/hartos-de-extorsiones-policiacas-empresarios-volantearan-en-rosarito/
HK isn't losing customers. I think the chicas probably get less Arribas, but no strip joint I've been to compares to HK. If you have been, then please let us know. They have chicas on every pole throughout the bar. I'm not sure why Tropical, Chicago, Adelitas, or any other club in Mexico doesn't do the same. They are rather tame compared to HK. Only other location with strip joint of HK magnitude is probably Thailand, but they just do a shuffle and not performance on the pole. The only downfall of HK is not being able to attract enough talent to keep guys entertained. It used to have a lot of thin natural spinners, but it seems like more overweight, bbl, operated on chicas in the club. Also if you think of their clientele, it is mostly gringos trying to escape being persecuted in USA For their sexual desires. Most don't want to travel across the world in order to find some women willing to do something strange for some change.I agree 100% KBToys.
Re no strip joint I've been to compares to HK.
Agreed.
Re clientele. Is mostly gringos trying to escape being persecuted in USA For their sexual desires.
SO TRUE!!
Re Most don't want to travel across the world in order to find some women.
Agreed!
So we are captive to Tijuana. But not to HK.
The other clubs, especially Chicago, could invest to up their game to be more like HK.
MongerSocal
06-23-23, 04:58
I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.
I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.It's not just in Mexico. It's all places. Some guys just do a little too much for pussy sometimes LOL.
Every where I have traveled I have seen this shlt LOL.
I do not understand it.
I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.That is not uncommon. We have a name for those guys: PLM.
I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.This is quite normal. They say 1% of guys are banging all the woman who even want sex. That leaves alot married and dating guys with pitiful sex life. Woman esse tially all want Pete Davidson. Tall cute. Funny handsome. He can have a prison record and be homeless but he fits the bill. I've read many guys on here who pay for a regulars apartment. Apts in Tijuana were like Florida 15 yrs ago, basically free. But even Tijuana apt prices skyrocketed. Right now with open borders it would be tough to find a long lasting relationship with a working girl that is just gona stop banging guys just cause you pay her rent and some $. I know a escort who was mexicsn she has 2 houses. She's in Tijuana 70% of the year. She went to usa last week with asylum because she's trans. But even if she wasn't trans many Mexicans are getting in now.
That is not uncommon. We have a name for those guys: PLM.I don't see this type of guy as a PLM, more of a sugar daddy. Guys that have money might prefer to have a girl that is a good time and pay what they want. Many guys with money set up a mistress because they don't want to be looking around for something all the time.
The PLM in my eyes are guys that give money to girls not to work and the girls have BFs or clients behind their backs. Or they constantly send money for whatever needs come up for the girls when they are just using them but the guy thinks the girl is really in love with him.
Baxter Slade
06-24-23, 19:44
I don't see this type of guy as a PLM, more of a sugar daddy. Guys that have money might prefer to have a girl that is a good time and pay what they want. Many guys with money set up a mistress because they don't want to be looking around for something all the time.
The PLM in my eyes are guys that give money to girls not to work and the girls have BFs or clients behind their backs. Or they constantly send money for whatever needs come up for the girls when they are just using them but the guy thinks the girl is really in love with him.You nailed it.
Although every situation can be a bit different. I love getting away to Tijuana at the end of the work week. While I do pay pretty much the rent for a Tijuana GF I do wonder who is using who. While I'm just a pretty near elderly gringo not fluent in Spanish and she is not getting any younger. I look at it as a big benefit for me. I save on hotels and enjoy sleeping next to a warm body Latina.
Of course I also don't want to be that idiot paying the bills while she is boning the real Mexican BF. But this has been going on for years and I do think about her meeting someone she can actually communicate with. But at this point in life I realize it would be best for her as long as I'm not left in the dark.
I don't see this type of guy as a PLM, more of a sugar daddy. Guys that have money might prefer to have a girl that is a good time and pay what they want. Many guys with money set up a mistress because they don't want to be looking around for something all the time.
The PLM in my eyes are guys that give money to girls not to work and the girls have BFs or clients behind their backs. Or they constantly send money for whatever needs come up for the girls when they are just using them but the guy thinks the girl is really in love with him.Love and the search for is the human condition. It is natural after fucking a girl for so long that you might start developing feeling with her. But a ho is ho always. You can take the ho out of the club but you can't take the club out of the ho. Be advised!
Though my last trip was very recent. I kept in touch with a few of the girls.
What are your guy's thoughts on taking a girl to like rosarito for a few days?
One girl, we got along really well and I just want to take her because I want to ruin her LOL. For extras like BBFS, etc.
If I go alone just me and her, should I be worried at all? Like thugs showin up at AIRBNB door?
The plan was to go with her & her friend + my buddy and I. But scheduling between 4 people is tough.
In terms of payment, she doesn't want money. Instead she wants me to take her to Sephora and buy some stuff.
What are your guy's thoughts on taking a girl to like rosarito for a few days?
If I go alone just me and her, should I be worried at all? Like thugs showin up at AIRBNB door?
In terms of payment, she doesn't want money. Instead she wants me to take her to Sephora and buy some stuff.Why not just take her to Tijuana beach?
There is a nice hotel near that beach too. Lots of nice restaurants and coffee houses along the beach.
Hotels with lobbies are probably safer than airbnb homes.
Lucky you. Enjoy!
Though my last trip was very recent. I kept in touch with a few of the girls.
What are your guy's thoughts on taking a girl to like rosarito for a few days?
One girl, we got along really well and I just want to take her because I want to ruin her LOL. For extras like BBFS, etc.
If I go alone just me and her, should I be worried at all? Like thugs showin up at AIRBNB door?
The plan was to go with her & her friend + my buddy and I. But scheduling between 4 people is tough.
In terms of payment, she doesn't want money. Instead she wants me to take her to Sephora and buy some stuff.I would always go to a hotel. Can some dudes show up? Yeah if she's got a jeouluse dude in her life. I had a girl from Gloria bar I knew for 2 yrs she slept over free couple times one day 5 months ago she asked me to meet her in abr for drinks. She begged. I was in my hotel down street so I went. She asked for $ for no reason and then when I said I can't proceeded to take my wallet from me and tale the $$. At this point I let her keep the $$ rather than get police involved. So Amy girl can turn on you.
I like rosarito inn. They have multiple bedroom apartments with great tub / jacuzi or pool table even. Real close to lots of clubs.
Have taken a few locas to Rosarito. Can find lots of options to suit your needs. Some lower cost if you want. I prefer hotels over airbnb but I do not have enough data points to say anything conclusive.
Prices for me have been all over the place as each loca had her owm story.
Castillo Del Diablo is a cool place to take them FYI.
Though my last trip was very recent. I kept in touch with a few of the girls.
What are your guy's thoughts on taking a girl to like rosarito for a few days?
One girl, we got along really well and I just want to take her because I want to ruin her LOL. For extras like BBFS, etc.
If I go alone just me and her, should I be worried at all? Like thugs showin up at AIRBNB door?
The plan was to go with her & her friend + my buddy and I. But scheduling between 4 people is tough.
In terms of payment, she doesn't want money. Instead she wants me to take her to Sephora and buy some stuff.
Stayed at Tijuana beach once. It was a last minute thing. Was nice. Went back another time and found the police hustle to get money is bad there. Confirmed with multiple people my expiernece is common. Tbh it can happen anywhere.
I enjoyed the area though. The area by the beach and border is kind of cool.
Why not just take her to Tijuana beach?
There is a nice hotel near that beach too. Lots of nice restaurants and coffee houses along the beach.
Hotels with lobbies are probably safer than airbnb homes.
Lucky you. Enjoy!
1. Some guys spent INSANE money but it is very rare. Cool stories that spread.
2. Girls like to exagerate and brag for many reasons.
With that said there are some locas I have fun with. I will be generous as they show me a good time. Nothing to the level that will be talked about. I find it well worth my resources.
It is easy to fall for some of these ladies but be very careful. Some do not even have the ability to be girlfriend material even if they really wanted to.
I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.
Novice question. But if its rosarito, which is like a 40 min drive. Would it be better if I crossed border in my own car and drove us down? Or better if by foot and take a cab?
Chica doesn't want money but rather wants me to take her shopping at sephora. Sounds like she doesn't want it to feel transactional?
I was at HK for a little while last night. Made it my first stop before I met up with one of my girls at Chicago. Saw a couple of my old faithfuls but was only going to be with 1 girl tonight and was dead set on my Chicago girl because she's leaving today and won't be back until August. Seemed like a slow night when I arrived but things picked up as the night went on. Spotted a new young blonde I had never seen before on the second floor practically banging some Asian guy at his table. It's funny how that works because sometimes I see some of you guys saying they don't allow any touching at the club anymore and then I witness a scene like I did last night and nobody told them anything. They were there for more than an hour too just drinking, having a great time. I was hoping he would ditch her at some point so I could swoop in on her like a vulture but no such luck. Shit, I wouldn't have let her go either. After almost an hour of roaming around the club and keeping tabs on the girl, I texted my Chicago girl and she responded right away to go meet up with her. Arrived at Chicago and grabbed a booth all the way in the back, past the hot tub. Well what do you know, I go on to practically bang her at my table as well. The waiters left us alone for the most part and there was only one other couple back there but they were in their own world. Went on to go upstairs and have an amazing goodbye session, she literally wore my dick out. This woman is second to none. She was telling me about a session she had with a tourist from the east coast the other day. It was his first time visiting the zona. He took her arriba but she never quoted him. The guy ended up giving her $500 for a half hour session SMH. We said our goodbyes and I returned to HK to see if I could track down the blonde to invite her for a drink and get contact info, but her and the guy were gone from their table. Probably went upstairs to have a wild session, lucky bastard. Hung out a while longer but never saw her again. The guy could have paid her out for the rest of the night or maybe it was her last arriba before she went home. Hopefully I bump into her on my next visit. Drove into TJ again like last week and only did about 35 minutes on the general lane side a little bit passed midnight.
Captain Solo
06-26-23, 17:21
Phazze.
I would drive over since I am familiar with the roads, have GE and insurance for my car, traffic is pretty tame and it would save so much time from walking and waiting for rides.
If you and your car have SENTRI or GE for the return trip, it would take 10 to 15 min mac in the SENTRI lane. The REGULAR lanes would take hours-long long wait, even late at night.
I would hand the girl a fixed sum for shopping at Sephora. Like $100, or the shopping can get very expensive.
One bottle of perfume can be $100+.
Phazze.
I would drive over since I am familiar with the roads, have GE and insurance for my car, traffic is pretty tame and it would save so much time from walking and waiting for rides.
If you and your car have SENTRI or GE for the return trip, it would take 10 to 15 min mac in the SENTRI lane. The REGULAR lanes would take hours-long long wait, even late at night.
I would hand the girl a fixed sum for shopping at Sephora. Like $100, or the shopping can get very expensive.Phazze wrote rosarito for a few days.
Would $100 make her happy. Probably not.
It should be minimum $200/ day.
Novice question. But if its rosarito, which is like a 40 min drive. Would it be better if I crossed border in my own car and drove us down? Or better if by foot and take a cab?
I always drive, because I need my car there for work.
If you do drive.
A) always park in a supervised parking lot, and.
B) always buy Mexican auto insurance. Your USA insurance is invalid there, and if you get into an accident without insurance, you could end up in jail.
I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.Girls that would talk about their other clients or brag about what Mr. X gives them would be a huge red flag. It's obviously a play to make you feel inadequate and pony up more $$. It's also a sign of insecurity when a person has to measure their worth in this way. I would just say, "I'm not interested in what you do with your other clients, what are you going to do with me?" Or just move on.
I hadn't been to HK since August 2019 so I was pretty alert on changes.
VERY few gringos wandering around Revo avenue around 4 pm when I woke from my nap to head over to the zone. I entered Hk through the alleyway. Easy button. Inside were A LOT of gringos and the talent for a Sunday was GREAT. I like how they now have the drink prices posted now. I noticed the waiters were a lot more passive when I sat in a booth with a chica versus if I was sitting in a chair along the bar or stage. Even one chica told me that they have calmed down and the chicas can put them in check if they choose to.
One chica rolled up on me. 24 from Sinaloa. One kid. Super nice but she had that loose flabby skin that I don't like. She lost my attention when she said rooms were $40 and she said she charges $180 normally but would give me a deal at $150. #eyeroll.
I noticed HK had expanded in both directions. The taco business on the end of the street was gone and if Chavellas was always a part of HK, I never noticed. It sure makes it easy to get lost in HK and find places to hide with a chica.
I ended up in Chavellas at the bar at 9 pm and there was a huge line of girls starting their shift. Thats where they check in and get their wristband. Great place to size up the starting talent. Apparently they have to hang out in Chavellas for an hour before they can go into the HK side. A lot of the girls looked bored out of their minds. I swooped one up and we left to go eat and hang out. She was a cutie that I hope to see on my next trip. The end.
BrotherMouzone
06-27-23, 03:37
I hadn't been to HK since August 2019 so I was pretty alert on changes.
I noticed HK had expanded in both directions. The taco business on the end of the street was gone and if Chavellas was always a part of HK, I never noticed. It sure makes it easy to get lost in HK and find places to hide with a chica.
Yeah, HK has expanded and is still in the process of expanding towards the taco stand side of the street. The absorption of Las Chevelas happened well over a year ago, maybe 2 or more years since that happened.
The taco stand had moved for several months down the street near the Chicago Club due to construction on the sidewalk but it was back in its normal location when I was last there back in late March. So I'm surprised to hear that it's moved again. My guess is they'll be back at their normal spot unless something's going on.
Yeah, HK has expanded and is still in the process of expanding towards the taco stand side of the street. .Can you please explain?
I thought the expansion on both sides is done. Chavelas on one side and the expansion that is open on weekends at the Miami room side.
What other HK expansion is still ongoing?
The wall on the Miami side extension does not go all the way to the Taco stand.
As you know there is a restaurant between HK and the taco stand.
One bottle of perfume can be $100+.My budget for her shopping is $300 max. I figured I'd normally have to pay her for her time anyways, so anything under $300 I'm good.
Phazze.
I would drive over since I am familiar with the roads, have GE and insurance for my car, traffic is pretty tame and it would save so much time from walking and waiting for rides.
If you and your car have SENTRI or GE for the return trip, it would take 10 to 15 min mac in the SENTRI lane. The REGULAR lanes would take hours-long long wait, even late at night.
I would hand the girl a fixed sum for shopping at Sephora. Like $100, or the shopping can get very expensive.The shopping I'm trying to insist that I buy what she wants here in LA so we go directly from border to Rosarito, no shopping spree lmao.
I don't have sentri or GE right now. So would you still recommend that I drive or walk at this point?
I always drive, because I need my car there for work.
If you do drive.
A) always park in a supervised parking lot, and.
B) always buy Mexican auto insurance. Your USA insurance is invalid there, and if you get into an accident without insurance, you could end up in jail.Thanks for the tips! Parking at AIRBNB no worries it seems. I booked through AIRBNB at Las Olas Grande. Seems like its underground structure & gated?
Do you happen to know if I can buy mexican auto insurance through my USA insurance company? Or is the process much more complicated?
Do you happen to know if I can buy mexican auto insurance through my USA insurance company? Or is the process much more complicated?I buy it online, at https://www.mexpro.com/. IIRC, they are a broker, selling insurance from several insurance companies.
I've always bought the GNP Seguros. Their claims service works well, even if you don't speak much Spanish.
Captain Solo
06-27-23, 18:45
Parking at border is very expensive, like $23 for 8 hours at the J I be lot. Then it takes lots of time to walk across, wait for taxi ect. If you only go to La Zona bars for a couple hours, walking over is convenient.
If you need rides to Rosarito and back, may be driving around a bit, driving over will save a lot of time and money, also gives you lots of flexibility, freedom and fun. Just buy Mexico insurance on line via Mexpro or AAA.COM, only $120-180 a year. Returning late at night in regular lanes will save you some time.
The chica will probably wants a load of expensive brand name make ups, cosmetics, perfumes ect. Up to you how you manage her demands. Try not to get ripped off. My wingmen have bought expensive loads of cosmetics which the chicas thought they were cheap, free donations from the people of the US hehe, they may not even like them, got them no credits. Cash is still king. Better to offer her a cash sum and let her buy whatever she likes.
I buy it online, at https://www.mexpro.com/. IIRC, they are a broker, selling insurance from several insurance companies.
I've always bought the GNP Seguros. Their claims service works well, even if you don't speak much Spanish.
Thanks bro, appreciate the hookup.
On this note though. Some general questions for fellow mongers with more experience in this arena.
I've done this trip thing before in Thailand, but this would be my first time in Mexico.
So I did a little digging just to make sure I'm not stepping on any landmines. But found out this girl, while she was truthful about her age (25), has some aspects about her life that has got some new questions circulating in my head.
1- she has a kid. Didn't know this, couldn't tell from her body or by how tight she was.
Whatever, this isn't nearly as big a deal since we all know so many of the chicas have probably had a kid by this age.
2- not hard to find, but found her facebook and just from photos, pretty sure she's gotta husband 100%
and id assume the husband knows to some degree... influx of cash, flights up to TJ all the time.. shes from down south
All things considered, nothing about this surprises me, but.
Questions:
A- do I got to be worried about a dude knockin on my airbnb door because I'm bangin his wife?
B- considering her circumstances. What are the chances of BBFS? She's got to kid & husband. Prolly not on the pill if I had to guess.
C- needless to say this is her job, but considering she's got to kid & a man. And its for the money. Why not ask me for cash for her time instead of this silly sephora trip?
Playing the long game? LOL idk just curious of thoughts here.
***D- is there even a way to broach this subject with the chica? like if she was open and honest about it all, i wouldn't care. id keep it professional/transactional and that would make it more fun for me honestly... but i feel like it would make things difficult if i come at it like "AH HAH! i gotchu"
i know shes workin me, which she should considering her occupation.. but i wanna make sure that while i'm bein worked, i wanna make sure i'm milking the situation on my part too
All in all, I'm wondering if this trip will still be worth it for ME. Or should I just save my $ and repeat at HK or overseas.
Appreciate any feedback here.
Thanks bro, appreciate the hookup.
On this note though. Some general questions for fellow mongers with more experience in this arena.
I've done this trip thing before in Thailand, but this would be my first time in Mexico.
So I did a little digging just to make sure I'm not stepping on any landmines. But found out this girl, while she was truthful about her age (25), has some aspects about her life that has got some new questions circulating in my head.What ever her real story is what does it matter? Most girls have a guy in their life but won't admit it since it's all part of the fantasy. No guy is going to come looking for you as he knows what she does and is probably happy to have her making money. So just go have fun and go with the flow, don't fall in love and don't spend more than you can afford.
BTW don't bring up her FB page and baby daddy as it will just make her defensive and deny most of it so it's really point less.
Expecting a working girl to be open and honest with you is pretty much an impossible task. Most of the girls in the zona have kids, that's why they're there, to make some cash so they can provide for them. Most of them also have deadbeat husbands or boyfriends. As long as the girl keeps bringing in the money, they could care less about how she makes it. As far as getting BBFS, she's either have to genuinely like you enough to do it or you got to fork out enough cash for her to do it. I generally wait until the girl is down to do it for free, but that's just me. If you offer them enough money, you can get it done. But everyone's budget varies, so it's up to you. As far as the Sephora angle, maybe in this case she would prefer the gifts because if she received cash her man would take it all away, who knows.
What ever her real story is what does it matter? Most girls have a guy in their life but won't admit it since it's all part of the fantasy. No guy is going to come looking for you as he knows what she does and is probably happy to have her making money. So just go have fun and go with the flow, don't fall in love and don't spend more than you can afford.
BTW don't bring up her FB page and baby daddy as it will just make her defensive and deny most of it so it's really point less.Thanks man. I won't bring up the FB page. Definitely no good way to bring it up. Even if I don't care about it.
I'm an overthinker by nature I suppose. But I'll cut that shit out!
Aint no lovin here heart strings tuggable? Yea. But going to BKK in Sept to rinse / repeat hah.
Expecting a working girl to be open and honest with you is pretty much an impossible task. Most of the girls in the zona have kids, that's why they're there, to make some cash so they can provide for them. Most of them also have deadbeat husbands or boyfriends. As long as the girl keeps bringing in the money, they could care less about how she makes it. As far as getting BBFS, she's either have to genuinely like you enough to do it or you got to fork out enough cash for her to do it. I generally wait until the girl is down to do it for free, but that's just me. If you offer them enough money, you can get it done. But everyone's budget varies, so it's up to you. As far as the Sephora angle, maybe in this case she would prefer the gifts because if she received cash her man would take it all away, who knows.Oh the thought about her man taking the money. This is an interesting angle. I never even thought about this.
She had mentioned in HK that her ex had the same name as me. Heh ye right. But said her ex broke up with her because he punched her?
Who knows maybe that's her husband? W / e you guys right, I'll try not to overthink.
Though my last trip was very recent. I kept in touch with a few of the girls.
What are your guy's thoughts on taking a girl to like rosarito for a few days?
One girl, we got along really well and I just want to take her because I want to ruin her LOL. For extras like BBFS, etc.
If I go alone just me and her, should I be worried at all? Like thugs showin up at AIRBNB door?
The plan was to go with her & her friend + my buddy and I. But scheduling between 4 people is tough.
In terms of payment, she doesn't want money. Instead she wants me to take her to Sephora and buy some stuff.Up to you, but I've never had issues getting take out anywhere in the world. If you feel the chica is genuine, then shouldn't be an issue if you've been seeing her often. A short trip would be good to gauge if you enjoy spending time together. Also payment in the form of gifts probably makes her feel less like work. They all need "help" in one form or another. If she starts cooking for you and introducing you to family then watch out. Also the social media may be old unless it is current. If she agreed to go on the short trip with you then just enjoy it for what it is and if she isn’t doing you BBFS in the club, then I doubt it would change outside.
Novice question. But if its rosarito, which is like a 40 min drive. Would it be better if I crossed border in my own car and drove us down? Or better if by foot and take a cab?
Chica doesn't want money but rather wants me to take her shopping at sephora. Sounds like she doesn't want it to feel transactional?Rosarito doesn't really have uber so you are using overpriced taxis. Best to drive your own car, but make sure to have Mexican insurance and register your car for sentri if you have it. Also you'll have more freedom to explore instead of being dropped off by a taxi. Rosarito is pretty boring in general. Las Olas has a parking structure and have to register your car.
Girls that would talk about their other clients or brag about what Mr. X gives them would be a huge red flag. It's obviously a play to make you feel inadequate and pony up more $$. It's also a sign of insecurity when a person has to measure their worth in this way. I would just say, "I'm not interested in what you do with your other clients, what are you going to do with me?" Or just move on.I appreciate their honesty and just because so and so paid them that much doesn't mean I'm going to do it. They either appreciate my "help" or we both move on. The one time tourist that hasn't had sex for a year from the various parts of the USA Doesn't dictate what local Socal residents pay since we do volume and visit more often.
One chica rolled up on me. 24 from Sinaloa. One kid. Super nice but she had that loose flabby skin that I don't like. She lost my attention when she said rooms were $40 and she said she charges $180 normally but would give me a deal at $150. #eyeroll.Geez she must have thought it was your first time in ZN. $150, what a deal. You should have taught her the normal pricing for the locals and not tourist price.
Parking at border is very expensive, like $23 for 8 hours at the J I be lot. Then it takes lots of time to walk across, wait for taxi ect. If you only go to La Zona bars for a couple hours, walking over is convenient.
If you need rides to Rosarito and back, may be driving around a bit, driving over will save a lot of time and money, also gives you lots of flexibility, freedom and fun. Just buy Mexico insurance on line via Mexpro or AAA.COM, only $120-180 a year. Returning late at night in regular lanes will save you some time.
The chica will probably wants a load of expensive brand name make ups, cosmetics, perfumes ect. Up to you how you manage her demands. Try not to get ripped off. My wingmen have bought expensive loads of cosmetics which the chicas thought they were cheap, free donations from the people of the US hehe, they may not even like them, got them no credits. Cash is still king. Better to offer her a cash sum and let her buy whatever she likes.Why ru recommending driving his car over to go to Rosarito. Just take Uber to Rosarito. It's dirt cheap. You are just asking to be pulled over by those snakes called cops. I would never bring my rental car across, or my own car. To much BS.
Rosarito doesn't really have uber so you are using overpriced taxis. Best to drive your own car, but make sure to have Mexican insurance and register your car for sentri if you have it. Also you'll have more freedom to explore instead of being dropped off by a taxi. Rosarito is pretty boring in general. Las Olas has a parking structure and have to register your car.Would you still drive though if you don't have sentri / GE? I applied but don't know if ill get it in time.
Up to you, but I've never had issues getting take out anywhere in the world. If you feel the chica is genuine, then shouldn't be an issue if you've been seeing her often. A short trip would be good to gauge if you enjoy spending time together. Also payment in the form of gifts probably makes her feel less like work. They all need "help" in one form or another. If she starts cooking for you and introducing you to family then watch out. Also the social media may be old unless it is current. If she agreed to go on the short trip with you then just enjoy it for what it is and if she isnt doing you BBFS in the club, then I doubt it would change outside.I actually only had 1 total session with her on my last trip. But we got along very well & the service was great.
Considering it was our first time, I didn't ask for BBFS. But she was very clean, smelled nice, etc.
Hoping that doesn't change and I won't feel like I'm using another dudes load as my lube lmao.
She immediately said yes to the trip when I asked & her insisting on gifts as payment and not cash.
Intro to family not going to happen if she's got to husband and kid lmao.
Thanks bro, appreciate the hookup.
On this note though. Some general questions for fellow mongers with more experience in this arena.
I've done this trip thing before in Thailand, but this would be my first time in Mexico.
So I did a little digging just to make sure I'm not stepping on any landmines. But found out this girl, while she was truthful about her age (25), has some aspects about her life that has got some new questions circulating in my head.
1- she has a kid. Didn't know this, couldn't tell from her body or by how tight she was.
Whatever, this isn't nearly as big a deal since we all know so many of the chicas have probably had a kid by this age.
2- not hard to find, but found her facebook and just from photos, pretty sure she's gotta husband 100%
and id assume the husband knows to some degree... influx of cash, flights up to TJ all the time.. shes from down south
All things considered, nothing about this surprises me, but.
Questions:
A- do I got to be worried about a dude knockin on my airbnb door because I'm bangin his wife?
B- considering her circumstances. What are the chances of BBFS? She's got to kid & husband. Prolly not on the pill if I had to guess.
C- needless to say this is her job, but considering she's got to kid & a man. And its for the money. Why not ask me for cash for her time instead of this silly sephora trip?
Playing the long game? LOL idk just curious of thoughts here.
***D- is there even a way to broach this subject with the chica? like if she was open and honest about it all, i wouldn't care. id keep it professional/transactional and that would make it more fun for me honestly... but i feel like it would make things difficult if i come at it like "AH HAH! i gotchu"
i know shes workin me, which she should considering her occupation.. but i wanna make sure that while i'm bein worked, i wanna make sure i'm milking the situation on my part too
All in all, I'm wondering if this trip will still be worth it for ME. Or should I just save my $ and repeat at HK or overseas.
Appreciate any feedback here.A nutty boyfriend and his friends knocking on your doors is always a possibility since he maybe out early on parole.
BBFS is a possibility because she may already have multiple baby daddies, so what is one more?
The Sephora trip is going to cost you more, but in exchange for GF care. It is a win-win until you are stuck at the border for 5 hours driving back. Bring an extra bottle so that you can pee in your car while in line.
Would you still drive though if you don't have SENTRI / GE?I drive through the San Ysidro Ready Lane quite regularly, on Thursdays, around 8:00 - 9:00 PM. The wait is almost always about 20 - 40 minutes. But at other times, it can be up to several hours, depending.
I also use the BWT and Bordify apps (Android) to compare wait times, Ready Lane vs General Lane, and Otay Mesa vs San Ysidro. Both apps are actually reporting numbers that they get from the US Customs and Border Patrol, which are almost always seriously underestimated. For Otay Mesa crossings, I add 50% to whatever lies they're telling us, and for San Ysidro, I double their number. While far from perfect, this gives me a pretty good idea which crossing is best.
And the BWT app will show you a graph indicating which hours are your best bet. This is only available for the day in question, but it's useful if you're choosing between "cross now" vs "go get dinner first".
Would you still drive though if you don't have sentri / GE? I applied but don't know if ill get it in time.
I actually only had 1 total session with her on my last trip. But we got along very well & the service was great.
Considering it was our first time, I didn't ask for BBFS. But she was very clean, smelled nice, etc.
Hoping that doesn't change and I won't feel like I'm using another dudes load as my lube lmao.
She immediately said yes to the trip when I asked & her insisting on gifts as payment and not cash.
Intro to family not going to happen if she's got to husband and kid lmao."Won't feel like I'm using another dudes load as my lube lmao".
Man I almost puked in my mouth and laughed at the same time LOL.
This gave me a another perspective jajajajaja.
Thanks for ruining the fun lmao.
A nutty boyfriend and his friends knocking on your doors is always a possibility since he maybe out early on parole.
BBFS is a possibility because she may already have multiple baby daddies, so what is one more?
The Sephora trip is going to cost you more, but in exchange for GF care. It is a win-win until you are stuck at the border for 5 hours driving back. Bring an extra bottle so that you can pee in your car while in line.I think theres only the 1 kid. Her FB is quite extensive LOL and I'm asian sherlock holmes. How much you think a sephora trip is going to run me? Going to try to convince her to let me buy it all up here so I can see the total and decide if I want to drop the $ haha.
I drive through the San Ysidro Ready Lane quite regularly, on Thursdays, around 8:00 - 9:00 PM. The wait is almost always about 20 - 40 minutes. But at other times, it can be up to several hours, depending.
I also use the BWT and Bordify apps (Android) to compare wait times, Ready Lane vs General Lane, and Otay Mesa vs San Ysidro. Both apps are actually reporting numbers that they get from the US Customs and Border Patrol, which are almost always seriously underestimated. For Otay Mesa crossings, I add 50% to whatever lies they're telling us, and for San Ysidro, I double their number. While far from perfect, this gives me a pretty good idea which crossing is best.
And the BWT app will show you a graph indicating which hours are your best bet. This is only available for the day in question, but it's useful if you're choosing between "cross now" vs "go get dinner first".20-40 min not bad at all. I'll be returning to Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon though. Maybe around 12-1 pm? Any chance you know how bad it is at that time of day? I'm downloading both apps now.
Our checkout is at 11 am but trying to get a late checkout.
"Won't feel like I'm using another dudes load as my lube lmao".
Man I almost puked in my mouth and laughed at the same time LOL.
This gave me a another perspective jajajajaja.
Thanks for ruining the fun lmao.Haha I'm HOPING she doesn't just let anyone rawdog. At least I don't get the impression she does. She asked real quick when we were at HK if I had a condom.
BBBJ was automatic though. She smelled very fresh and clean on a Saturday night so that was a good sign at least. But then again I never inquired about BBFS or CIP.
20-40 min not bad at all. I'll be returning to Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon though. Maybe around 12-1 pm? Any chance you know how bad it is at that time of day?You said you're "returning TO Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon". The only times I've had ANY delay driving into Tijuana is during evening rush hour, especially Fridays.
OTOH, if you meant to say "returning FROM Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon", I really have no relevant experience, but based on what I've seen posted here and other places, my guess is there'll be a few hours delay.
Please be sure to report back on all this. Thanks.
I think theres only the 1 kid. Her FB is quite extensive LOL and I'm asian sherlock holmes. How much you think a sephora trip is going to run me? Going to try to convince her to let me buy it all up here so I can see the total and decide if I want to drop the $ haha.
20-40 min not bad at all. I'll be returning to Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon though. Maybe around 12-1 pm? Any chance you know how bad it is at that time of day? I'm downloading both apps now.
Our checkout is at 11 am but trying to get a late checkout.
Haha I'm HOPING she doesn't just let anyone rawdog. At least I don't get the impression she does. She asked real quick when we were at HK if I had a condom.
BBBJ was automatic though. She smelled very fresh and clean on a Saturday night so that was a good sign at least. But then again I never inquired about BBFS or CIP.Sephora can get expensive, makeup isn't cheap especially if she wants a kit to apply the makeup. It will be much nicer for you to take her shopping instead of bringing it to her. I've done both and I enjoy taking a girl out shopping much more than just having them send me a wish list. Just make sure the shopping trip comes after your time together.
For your border wait you can look up the history on each day to cross. For example if you return on a Saturday in July you can expect about 75 min wait starting at 12 pm and the worst time to cross being 3 pm with a 105 minute wait.
Bwt. Cbp. Gov / historical.
You can type in all the information about when you are crossing and it will give the historical information. Also if it's still a few weeks atajaste check the border apps wait time every Saturday at the time you plan on crossing to get an idea. I wouldn't check this Saturday since it's a holiday and crossing will be different.
Depending on how your time goes with her you might be better off trying to see if she wants to go to the movies and dinner. The mall were the Sephora is located is the newest mall in Tijuana and very nice.
Also if you are looking at better restaurants to eat at on the ocean I'd go further south towards Puerto Nuevo, or even Puert Nuevo. Unfortunately the best places in Rosarito don't have an ocean view.
You said you're "returning TO Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon". The only times I've had ANY delay driving into Tijuana is during evening rush hour, especially Fridays.
OTOH, if you meant to say "returning FROM Tijuana on a Saturday early afternoon", I really have no relevant experience, but based on what I've seen posted here and other places, my guess is there'll be a few hours delay.
Please be sure to report back on all this. Thanks.Returning to Tijuana Sat afternoon, hoping to cross border then. Who knows, maybe ill get lucky because I applied for GE like yesterday? And I already got conditionally approved and my interview is tomorrow morning. Between now and the trip theres 2 weeks, so I might be able to get GE before then?
Sephora can get expensive, makeup isn't cheap especially if she wants a kit to apply the makeup. It will be much nicer for you to take her shopping instead of bringing it to her. I've done both and I enjoy taking a girl out shopping much more than just having them send me a wish list. Just make sure the shopping trip comes after your time together.
For your border wait you can look up the history on each day to cross. For example if you return on a Saturday in July you can expect about 75 min wait starting at 12 pm and the worst time to cross being 3 pm with a 105 minute wait.
Bwt. Cbp. Gov / historical.
You can type in all the information about when you are crossing and it will give the historical information. Also if it's still a few weeks atajaste check the border apps wait time every Saturday at the time you plan on crossing to get an idea. I wouldn't check this Saturday since it's a holiday and crossing will be different.
Depending on how your time goes with her you might be better off trying to see if she wants to go to the movies and dinner. The mall were the Sephora is located is the newest mall in Tijuana and very nice.
Also if you are looking at better restaurants to eat at on the ocean I'd go further south towards Puerto Nuevo, or even Puert Nuevo. Unfortunately the best places in Rosarito don't have an ocean view.Ah ok puerto nuevo aint far, so that'll be easy. I'm hoping I get GE within the next 2 weeks after my interview tomorrow morning. We'll see. If I do, I'll drive.
Regarding Sephora, I know what you mean.
Not sure if this is a red flag, or girl testing my generosity. But today she came up with some bullshit thing about troubles at home. Asked if I can pay for her ticket to Tijuana from her home city.
Not expensive, maybe $150? But she said I don't have to take her to sephora anymore, that it was up to me. So perhaps her spending at sephora wouldn't have been too crazy? Not sure.
Ill pay the ticket, its not that expensive. And take her shopping AFTER, that's a great tip BTW. Shopping budget depending on how her service is LOL.
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.
Baxter Slade
06-30-23, 04:30
Not sure if this is a red flag, or girl testing my generosity. But today she came up with some bullshit thing about troubles at home. Asked if I can pay for her ticket to Tijuana from her home city.
I guess it could be a red flag, it does sound very normal. Now if you send the money and then the excuses start piling up when its time to meet up that would be a RED RED flag. But I do hope you found one of the rare ones who won't jack you around.
Returning to Tijuana Sat afternoon, hoping to cross border then. Who knows, maybe ill get lucky because I applied for GE like yesterday? And I already got conditionally approved and my interview is tomorrow morning. Between now and the trip theres 2 weeks, so I might be able to get GE before then?
Ah ok puerto nuevo aint far, so that'll be easy. I'm hoping I get GE within the next 2 weeks after my interview tomorrow morning. We'll see. If I do, I'll drive.
Regarding Sephora, I know what you mean.
Not sure if this is a red flag, or girl testing my generosity. But today she came up with some bullshit thing about troubles at home. Asked if I can pay for her ticket to Tijuana from her home city.
Not expensive, maybe $150? But she said I don't have to take her to sephora anymore, that it was up to me. So perhaps her spending at sephora wouldn't have been too crazy? Not sure.
Ill pay the ticket, its not that expensive. And take her shopping AFTER, that's a great tip BTW. Shopping budget depending on how her service is LOL.
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.A Chicago girl, who was a friend after a while that I. Ever paid but hung out with on her off day, once told me same thing. Pay her flight to Tijuana in 2 days so she can see me and work in Chicago again. She never came, I then saw her and her new fiance on Facebook 2 days later. So. The old "pay my flight baby one more time". Is as old as Tijuana is.
I applied for GE like yesterday? And I already got conditionally approved and my interview is tomorrow morning. Between now and the trip theres 2 weeks, so I might be able to get GE before then?
.Yes. Global entry card within 2 weeks after interview is reasonable.
I am amazed how you got your GE interview for the next day. At SFO it was months out when I tried last year.
I finally did a interview on return to USA at SFO to get my global entry card renewed.
I guess it could be a red flag, it does sound very normal. Now if you send the money and then the excuses start piling up when its time to meet up that would be a RED RED flag. But I do hope you found one of the rare ones who won't jack you around.
A Chicago girl, who was a friend after a while that I. Ever paid but hung out with on her off day, once told me same thing. Pay her flight to Tijuana in 2 days so she can see me and work in Chicago again. She never came, I then saw her and her new fiance on Facebook 2 days later. So. The old "pay my flight baby one more time". Is as old as Tijuana is.
Yes. Global entry card within 2 weeks after interview is reasonable.
I am amazed how you got your GE interview for the next day. At SFO it was months out when I tried last year.
I finally did a interview on return to USA at SFO to get my global entry card renewed.Soooo originally I was going to go to Rosarito with this girl from July 13-15. So she was going to be back in Tijuana from July 2nd to 16th.
I changed the plans last night to us going to Rosarito now from July 2nd to 4th.
Figured if I'm buying her ticket. I'd catch her "FRESH" off the plane HAHA. If she's truly back home right now.. i'll be the last john to fuck her before she went home and the next john to fuck her after she returns to TJ
I booked her ticket for her under HER name. So she got no direct cash for the flight. Told her I'd pick her up directly from the airport, head straight to rosarito and then we can go buy some makeup or whatever after the trip. I'd ASSUME that if she got no cash directly for the flight... there's way it'd be a scam right? it's not like she can refund the ticket into cash if she went to the airline counter right? if it was bought with my card under my name?
So sorry my guys -- there will potentially be 1 girl thrown back into Tijuana on the 4th that has been ran through for a couple days.
Now I'm just praying to god by some miracle ill be able to get my GE status immediately after today's interview??
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.
Returning to Tijuana Sat afternoon, hoping to cross border then. Who knows, maybe ill get lucky because I applied for GE like yesterday? And I already got conditionally approved and my interview is tomorrow morning. Between now and the trip theres 2 weeks, so I might be able to get GE before then?
Ah ok puerto nuevo aint far, so that'll be easy. I'm hoping I get GE within the next 2 weeks after my interview tomorrow morning. We'll see. If I do, I'll drive.
Regarding Sephora, I know what you mean.
Not sure if this is a red flag, or girl testing my generosity. But today she came up with some bullshit thing about troubles at home. Asked if I can pay for her ticket to Tijuana from her home city.
Not expensive, maybe $150? But she said I don't have to take her to sephora anymore, that it was up to me. So perhaps her spending at sephora wouldn't have been too crazy? Not sure.
Ill pay the ticket, its not that expensive. And take her shopping AFTER, that's a great tip BTW. Shopping budget depending on how her service is LOL.
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.You guys are out taking wh0 res shopping and buying them plane tickets? What in the hell? What posses men to do this things? I hope your not a young guy.
I guess it could be a red flag, it does sound very normal. Now if you send the money and then the excuses start piling up when its time to meet up that would be a RED RED flag. But I do hope you found one of the rare ones who won't jack you around.If they ask for money at all it's a red fag.
Soooo originally I was going to go to Rosarito with this girl from July 13-15. So she was going to be back in Tijuana from July 2nd to 16th.
I changed the plans last night to us going to Rosarito now from July 2nd to 4th.
Figured if I'm buying her ticket. I'd catch her "FRESH" off the plane HAHA. If she's truly back home right now.. i'll be the last john to fuck her before she went home and the next john to fuck her after she returns to TJ
I booked her ticket for her under HER name. So she got no direct cash for the flight. Told her I'd pick her up directly from the airport, head straight to rosarito and then we can go buy some makeup or whatever after the trip. I'd ASSUME that if she got no cash directly for the flight... there's way it'd be a scam right? it's not like she can refund the ticket into cash if she went to the airline counter right? if it was bought with my card under my name?
So sorry my guys -- there will potentially be 1 girl thrown back into Tijuana on the 4th that has been ran through for a couple days.
Now I'm just praying to god by some miracle ill be able to get my GE status immediately after today's interview??
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.No apology needed. She was ran through before you met her man LOL.
You already paid the money for the ticket. No more answers needed just go have fun LOL.
If she found a way to get money out of the ticket well. You just learned your lesson jajajaja.
Happy Hunting man.
No apology needed. She was ran through before you met her man LOL.
You already paid the money for the ticket. No more answers needed just go have fun LOL.
If she found a way to get money out of the ticket well. You just learned your lesson jajajaja.
Happy Hunting man.She coulda totally tried to 'refund' the ticket for cash at the airline counter. Definitely possible.
But its all good, it was $150 so not much. Yea I'm a younger guy, 31 y/o.
Shopping budget I'm capping at $200. *sry that's all the cash I got left on me* so all in all, she's getting $350 for 3 days, 2 nights.
Its nice to get out of HK once in a while lmao. Specially now that you can't smoke, got a lot of girls asking for more than $100.
Also not a lot of girls (specially the pretty ones) are down to do weird shit when you pick them up in HK.
But hoping her guard will be more down when its by the beach haha.
But the goal is to BBFS / CIP for 2 days straight. She tried inviting her friend to do 3 somes but I don't have the energy to keep up with 2 of these girls.
Captain Solo
07-01-23, 13:19
Date with a puta he just met smells very fishy.
It's difficult to assess these girls without knowing them a while, but for certain she's all about money, she's not in love with you, she's deeply in love with her husbands and kids, working hard on her back to lavish on them. If she's from the South, probably trying to buy expensive items so she can resell.
Her husband likely pushed her into sex work to feed the family and he won't cause problems. She's his cash cow. This kind of relationship happens a lot in Latin countries. I was in Argentina banging a very nice, sweet, pretty 18 YO. Her BF drove her to the bar to work every night, sat drinking. Waiting for her all night while she fucked guys after guys upstairs. He bought me beers and talked about how hard life was in BS As. Had the same relationship with a pretty young Irish / German girl in LA with her Mexican BF and their baby. He would push the baby stroller out of the apartment, past me in the hallway, so I could screw her in private.
He only met her once. Why get in so deep with her? There are couple hundreds other young, beautiful girls working in Tijuana. Why fall in love with just this girl? It's laughable that noobs think they are so special that putas would fall in love with them after the first fuck, lose perspectives and fall in love fast with the first puta they meet in Tijuana hehe.
Why does she have to meet him in Rosarito? It's a boring town under CJNG control, known for huge stash houses and botched drugs deals and recent kidnaps and murders of gringos. This whole deal smells fishy like a trap. It's stupid and dangerous for anyone, even seasoned Spanish-speaking guys, to go to unknown places to hang out with girls. Guys have been known to be lured to girls' neighborhood, kidnapped, beat up, drained of all money, sometimes murdered.
Take control of the relationship. Dictate the terms where, when you want to meet and what you want to do with her. After knowing her a few years and she proves to be honest, loving with you, then you can be serious with her. For now tell her to meet you in the club or hotel in La Zona Norte, be clear about how much you would give her for BBFS.
TJBrazil is right. It's a big waste of time and way too risky for a noob to drive around to Roasrito just to meet up with a puta.
She coulda totally tried to 'refund' the ticket for cash at the airline counter. Definitely possible.
But its all good, it was $150 so not much. Yea I'm a younger guy, 31 y/o.
Shopping budget I'm capping at $200. *sry that's all the cash I got left on me* so all in all, she's getting $350 for 3 days, 2 nights.
Its nice to get out of HK once in a while lmao. Specially now that you can't smoke, got a lot of girls asking for more than $100.
Also not a lot of girls (specially the pretty ones) are down to do weird shit when you pick them up in HK.
But hoping her guard will be more down when its by the beach haha.
But the goal is to BBFS / CIP for 2 days straight. She tried inviting her friend to do 3 somes but I don't have the energy to keep up with 2 of these girls.Dude HK / escorts are for short term fun. If you are young, do the same thing I do: create a Tinder account and talk to girl in clubs / bars. That way you use HK for short term fun and you find yourself 1 - 2 civies on the side for more medium term fun.
Dude HK / escorts are for short term fun. If you are young, do the same thing I do: create a Tinder account and talk to girl in clubs / bars. That way you use HK for short term fun and you find yourself 1 - 2 civies on the side for more medium term fun.I actually like it when its a working girl. Less chance of having to worry about any expectations beyond money from the girl if she's got a husband and kid back home LOL.
This IS short term fun for me. We're talking 2 days, not 2 months. Next month I'm off to Bangkok with the buddies.
Date with a puta he just met smells very fishy.
TJBrazil is right. It's a big waste of time and way too risky for a noob to drive around to Roasrito just to meet up with a puta.Is it really that dangerous though? Just honestly asking. I've been to TJ/HK plenty of times just not Rosarito. In terms of the location, I selected the time & place.
Idk why y'all think I'm falling in love with this chica lol... Just want to take a break from the HK scene for once and fuck a chica in peace without battling 30 meseros, towel boys & in that cascadas room that would look like a murder scene if you shined a black light hah
At this point, I'd just appreciate any safety tips you guys might have.
Why ru recommending driving his car over to go to Rosarito. Just take Uber to Rosarito. It's dirt cheap. You are just asking to be pulled over by those snakes called cops. I would never bring my rental car across, or my own car. To much BS.
Isn't uber illegal in Rosarito right now?
edit: researching, it seems its easier to get an uber to take u to rosarito and just drop u off.. but coming back to TJ, its gotta be a cab?
AmericanPi
07-01-23, 19:36
I asked before but never got an answer so going to try again. Hope that's ok.
When I walk around the block at HK, some of the wall girls are actually quite cute. I wonder why they don't get jobs inside the clubs where they can charge more.
I've never taken one because I assume there is some vetting the clubs do and the girls fail. I don't know, maybe a health check or unable to produce identification or something. And I'm not trying to get caught up in those situations.
Isn't uber illegal in Rosarito right now?
edit: researching, it seems its easier to get an uber to take u to rosarito and just drop u off.. but coming back to TJ, its gotta be a cab?For the amount of time you are going I would take my own car unless where you are staying doesn't have secure parking. I'm not sure what the Uber situation is coming back from Rosarito but you can also download the InDriver App if no Uber and will prob get a better price than some random cab.
Isn't uber illegal in Rosarito right now?
edit: researching, it seems its easier to get an uber to take u to rosarito and just drop u off.. but coming back to TJ, its gotta be a cab?I've done the Rosarito, LOS Olas trip like 2 years ago and used cabs. It was like $160 total for cabs around town, to and from Tijuana as well. I now just drive my own car into Tijuana. You just have to avoid ZN and Centro as the police are always looking for some kind of violation, tint, speeding, not coming to complete stop, etc. You should check out LOS Portales bar / restaurant. The concept of taking the chica out of the club is good if you genuinely enjoy each others time together. None of them want to waste their time with someone they aren't interested in beyond a client business relationship.
As far as safety, haven't ran into any issue and been out and about at all hours in Baja. The worst things that have happened to me are police stopping me when out past midnight as not very many cars on the streets. Rosarito pretty much is closed up after 9 pm and maybe the small area of bars in town. It is rather boring compared to ZN, Thailand, or other spots as it is a sleepy tourist town with exception of Bajafest. It isn't my money or business, but make sure to have fun and take care of her until you drop her off back to her apartment or club. Your experience together would dictate future trips.
It really isn't much different than traveling with women from other parts of the world. Yeah it is fun traveling with bros, but it is always better traveling with a cute companion. The issue is one or the other falling in love with you. I recall a Thai chick taking me around Thailand, translating, waking up to a BJ and breakfast she made every morning. It was the dream for sure, until feelings got involved. That is the reason Thai mongers say never spend more than 3 days or feelings get involved and they get attached.
Take control of the relationship. Dictate the terms where, when you want to meet and what you want to do with her. After knowing her a few years and she proves to be honest, loving with you, then you can be serious with her. For now tell her to meet you in the club or hotel in La Zona Norte, be clear about how much you would give her for BBFS.
TJBrazil is right. It's a big waste of time and way too risky for a noob to drive around to Roasrito just to meet up with a puta.Good advice on dictating the terms if it is P4 P so you won't be disappointed with expectations. The issue would be the working girl feeling like a puta if she is thinking she wants to genuinely enjoy the time outside the club and not make it seem so transactional. I'm thinking that is the reason she wants the makeup rather than money so she feels less like a transactional date rather than straight cash on top of the dresser or by her purse after deed is done. Similar to when you take them out and give you the "up to you" on amount of "help" you're supposed to offer.
I actually like it when its a working girl. Less chance of having to worry about any expectations beyond money from the girl if she's got a husband and kid back home LOL.
This IS short term fun for me. We're talking 2 days, not 2 months. Next month I'm off to Bangkok with the buddies.Sounds like fun, report back how conditions are on ground. Planning Pattaya and Phuket as well? Phuket boat tours were out of this world and the warm hospitality of Thai people is unmatched anywhere I've been in the world. Also their cuisine is rather tasty as well. Have fun and stay safe!
Is it really that dangerous though? Just honestly asking. I've been to TJ/HK plenty of times just not Rosarito. In terms of the location, I selected the time & place.
Idk why y'all think I'm falling in love with this chica lol... Just want to take a break from the HK scene for once and fuck a chica in peace without battling 30 meseros, towel boys & in that cascadas room that would look like a murder scene if you shined a black light hah
At this point, I'd just appreciate any safety tips you guys might have.Don't listen to those that try to talk about how dangerous someplace is when they only spend time in HK. First off any cartel issues would be in the eastern part of the city where most people live not the tourist zone. Secondly this is one of the most popular weekends for Rosarito with the holiday and how warm it is lots of people will be headed to the beach. Your a young guy and it's a good time for your first visit since the place will be full of people having fun and the clubs will be rocking. Hopefully you take your girl out to Papas and Beer or some of the other bars. Rosarito is slow and relaxed most of the year but the summer is when they make most of their money and they have lots to do. Ride horses on the beach if I remember they have some new zip line place, they use to have jet ski rentals or just rent a table for the day and hang out drinking on the beach or at the bars.
As far as safety tips you have nothing really to worry about, the only issue might be if you bring your car but it seems like you are not driving. The cops only bug those driving so if your just walking around your fine. I wouldn't carry large amounts of cash just what you need at that time the rest should stay in your room. The northern part of the city doesn't have much to offer so I'd just stay in the tourist zone which is basically the Rosarito Beach Hotel and just a few blocks north of that. I made a post a few pages back #18068 that had a link on a article of about the police but like I said your not driving it doesn't really matter.
As far as your girl goes I know your not in love and I understand just getting away from HK. Just a recommendation is that she is taking more of a risk going with basically a complete stranger and what might happen to her compared to you. I would recommend not talking about her work just treat her like you would anyone else, just because she works where she works doesn't mean that's who she is as a person. Not sure if you know what music she likes if not you might want to get familiar with Bad Bunny, J Balvin, Christian Nodal and probably some Banda music like Banda Recordó.
Like I had said before don't over think everything just go with the flow and be up for anything, you had asked before about negotiating or bringing up BBFS CIP. I wouldn't bring it up but just let it happen naturally, if you go out drinking and dancing and get her juices flowing I'd almost guarantee it will happen. Not sure how your Spanish is but you might want to practice a few things to say to her during four play.
I've done the Rosarito, LOS Olas trip like 2 years ago and used cabs. It was like $160 total for cabs around town, to and from Tijuana as well. I now just drive my own car into Tijuana. It was the dream for sure, until feelings got involved. That is the reason Thai mongers say never spend more than 3 days or feelings get involved and they get attached.$160 is more than i expected, I just checked uber app and it was like $25 one way to Rosarito from Tijuana. So not bad. But I understand if you're going around town, to and from spots. Makes sense.
I'm thinking maybe for the first time, I just walk across the boarder and take uber / cabs to be safe. If I ever repeat the trip, I'll drive my car.
Sounds like fun, report back how conditions are on ground. Planning Pattaya and Phuket as well? Phuket boat tours were out of this world and the warm hospitality of Thai people is unmatched anywhere I've been in the world. Also their cuisine is rather tasty as well. Have fun and stay safe!Ill report back after the MX trip. Yes, we're planning Bangkok for maybe a week and Pattaya for 4-5 days after or vice versa. Been to both before several times. Pattaya better for girls imo, and BKK better for shit to do outside of whoring.
Good advice on dictating the terms if it is P4 P so you won't be disappointed with expectations. The issue would be the working girl feeling like a puta if she is thinking she wants to genuinely enjoy the time outside the club and not make it seem so transactional. I'm thinking that is the reason she wants the makeup rather than money so she feels less like a transactional date rather than straight cash on top of the dresser or by her purse after deed is done. Similar to when you take them out and give you the "up to you" on amount of "help" you're supposed to offer.Regarding the trip schedule, time, location, etc. Thankfully I was not dumb enough to let her dictate any of that. The only thing she 'dictated' was how she got paid. Which was via makeup.
But I'm capping that at a cash limit since I already paid the $150 for her plane ticket. On top of that. Due to my work. I get free clothes from fashion brands, so I'm bringing some with me in her size as a little cherry on top gift at no cost to me. But leaving the price tags on so she can think what she wants lol.
and to your point, yea maybe she doesn't wanna feel like a whor? idc what the reason is. if she performs well, i really dont care how she wants to get paid.. as long as i control the $ limit
Isn't uber illegal in Rosarito right now?
edit: researching, it seems its easier to get an uber to take u to rosarito and just drop u off.. but coming back to TJ, its gotta be a cab?You take a Uber there and one of those vans back for a few bucks.
Explorer8939
07-02-23, 00:55
Sounds like fun, report back how conditions are on ground. Planning Pattaya and Phuket as well? Phuket boat tours were out of this world and the warm hospitality of Thai people is unmatched anywhere I've been in the world. Also their cuisine is rather tasty as well. Have fun and stay safe!A Hong Kong chica I know wants to go to Thailand.
Explorer8939
07-02-23, 03:14
Soooo originally I was going to go to Rosarito with this girl from July 13-15. So she was going to be back in Tijuana from July 2nd to 16th.
I changed the plans last night to us going to Rosarito now from July 2nd to 4th.
Figured if I'm buying her ticket. I'd catch her "FRESH" off the plane HAHA. If she's truly back home right now.. i'll be the last john to fuck her before she went home and the next john to fuck her after she returns to TJ
I booked her ticket for her under HER name. So she got no direct cash for the flight. Told her I'd pick her up directly from the airport, head straight to rosarito and then we can go buy some makeup or whatever after the trip. I'd ASSUME that if she got no cash directly for the flight... there's way it'd be a scam right? it's not like she can refund the ticket into cash if she went to the airline counter right? if it was bought with my card under my name?
So sorry my guys -- there will potentially be 1 girl thrown back into Tijuana on the 4th that has been ran through for a couple days.
Now I'm just praying to god by some miracle ill be able to get my GE status immediately after today's interview??
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.Getting a refund for a plane ticket in Mexico would be incredible. The usual outcome, if the ticket is refundable, would be to reverse the credit card charges.
Explorer8939
07-02-23, 03:16
I have a social media contact with a HK chica who just sent me a photo. Very disappointing. When I barfined her, she looked spectacular. But her photo is so-so.
I asked before but never got an answer so going to try again. Hope that's ok.
When I walk around the block at HK, some of the wall girls are actually quite cute. I wonder why they don't get jobs inside the clubs where they can charge more.
I've never taken one because I assume there is some vetting the clubs do and the girls fail. I don't know, maybe a health check or unable to produce identification or something. And I'm not trying to get caught up in those situations.
The answers I have always gotten is that they can't work 8 hour shifts that the clubs require you to work. They want to be able to come/go whenever they want and set their own working hours. Others have also said they don't smoke or drink, so working in a club environment doesn't suit them. Pretty sure most of us have hooked up with street girls plenty of times and have never really heard of anybody having any problems.
Returning to Tijuana Sat afternoon, hoping to cross border then. Who knows, maybe ill get lucky because I applied for GE like yesterday? And I already got conditionally approved and my interview is tomorrow morning. Between now and the trip theres 2 weeks, so I might be able to get GE before then?
Ah ok puerto nuevo aint far, so that'll be easy. I'm hoping I get GE within the next 2 weeks after my interview tomorrow morning. We'll see. If I do, I'll drive.
Regarding Sephora, I know what you mean.
Not sure if this is a red flag, or girl testing my generosity. But today she came up with some bullshit thing about troubles at home. Asked if I can pay for her ticket to Tijuana from her home city.
Not expensive, maybe $150? But she said I don't have to take her to sephora anymore, that it was up to me. So perhaps her spending at sephora wouldn't have been too crazy? Not sure.
Ill pay the ticket, its not that expensive. And take her shopping AFTER, that's a great tip BTW. Shopping budget depending on how her service is LOL.
BTW, do you guys think it would be better to negotiate BBFS & extras before I go on the trip? Or is it easier to ensure it happens if its more of a spur of the moment thing and after she's had a refresher as to what a swell guy I am? Haha.
Not sure how you heard back for the GE so quickly, I have been waiting on a response for several months now but I guess you just got lucky. How did the interview go?
BBFS is something I let happen naturally. Most girls will think you're sketchy if you ask for it off the rip. If it's a must have for you then just be straight up with her and ask but wait for the right time to pop the question. Maybe suggest it in a playful way and see how she reacts.
The "troubles at home" card is the go to for working girls. It's never ending, believe me. If she's already hitting you up with that, it's not a good sign. The best girls are the ones who don't burden you with their problems. There's a few girls I know who I don't know a single thing about. Our time together is our time together and that's it. I have no clue if they have a man, have kids, live with their families, etc. We just have fun and enjoy each other's company. On the other hand there are other girls who I know too much about. Their entire histories, how many kids they have, how many abortions they've had, sexual abuse they have suffered, beatings, torture, kidnappings, crazy relatives, psychotic boyfriends and husbands. While I don't doubt most of their claims, they will definitely use everything they can at their disposal to drum up sympathy and squeeze as much money or gifts out of you. Keep in mind, most, if not all of these girls are hookers because of a series of fucked up events in their lives that landed them there. You’re never going to meet a girl in the zona who is of sound mind and well adjusted. If she was, she wouldn’t be working in the zona.
Explorer8939
07-02-23, 08:27
I asked before but never got an answer so going to try again. Hope that's ok.
When I walk around the block at HK, some of the wall girls are actually quite cute. I wonder why they don't get jobs inside the clubs where they can charge more.
I've never taken one because I assume there is some vetting the clubs do and the girls fail. I don't know, maybe a health check or unable to produce identification or something. And I'm not trying to get caught up in those situations.Nothing to do with any of that.
There is a bit of a cultural issue involved, because Street Girls generally come from the sierra in the state of Puebla, whereas HK chicas large come from Sinaloa, but can come from anywhere.
However, by far the largest issue is that SGs are recruited by men from in and near the state of Puebla, ostensibly to travel to the US, but instead are required to work in Tijuana as SGs. The point is that by working on the street instead of a bar, they can be watched to see how many customers they generate per shift, so they hand the appropriate amount of cash over at the end of the shift.
I would name what these men are called, but that would trigger some people here. They mostly come from the small city of Tenancingo in Tlaxcala. They will have a handful of ladies working for them. Older ladies often take on the task of monitoring the other ladies, so the man doesn't have to do any work.
After years on the street, a few ladies go indie, which includes working bar, but that is rare.
Any questions should go to the Street Girl section, not here.
Yes, that is a house owned by a man who supplies you with street girls.
I asked before but never got an answer so going to try again. Hope that's ok.
When I walk around the block at HK, some of the wall girls are actually quite cute. I wonder why they don't get jobs inside the clubs where they can charge more.
I've never taken one because I assume there is some vetting the clubs do and the girls fail. I don't know, maybe a health check or unable to produce identification or something. And I'm not trying to get caught up in those situations.Some streetgirls choose to be in the street. The best example is Wendy. She tried HK back around 2018 but returned to the streets (she stands in the alley by HK entrance).
- I think she likes the independence and she turns over a lot of guys from the street vs just one or two guys from the club.
I have seen other street girls eventually end up in HK club too.
Don't listen to those that try to talk about how dangerous someplace is when they only spend time in HK. First off any cartel issues would be in the eastern part of the city where most people live not the tourist zone. Secondly this is one of the most popular weekends for Rosarito with the holiday and how warm it is lots of people will be headed to the beach. Your a young guy and it's a good time for your first visit since the place will be full of people having fun and the clubs will be rocking. Hopefully you take your girl out to Papas and Beer or some of the other bars. Rosarito is slow and relaxed most of the year but the summer is when they make most of their money and they have lots to do. Ride horses on the beach if I remember they have some new zip line place, they use to have jet ski rentals or just rent a table for the day and hang out drinking on the beach or at the bars.
As far as safety tips you have nothing really to worry about, the only issue might be if you bring your car but it seems like you are not driving. The cops only bug those driving so if your just walking around your fine. I wouldn't carry large amounts of cash just what you need at that time the rest should stay in your room. The northern part of the city doesn't have much to offer so I'd just stay in the tourist zone which is basically the Rosarito Beach Hotel and just a few blocks north of that. I made a post a few pages back #18068 that had a link on a article of about the police but like I said your not driving it doesn't really matter.
As far as your girl goes I know your not in love and I understand just getting away from HK. Just a recommendation is that she is taking more of a risk going with basically a complete stranger and what might happen to her compared to you. I would recommend not talking about her work just treat her like you would anyone else, just because she works where she works doesn't mean that's who she is as a person. Not sure if you know what music she likes if not you might want to get familiar with Bad Bunny, J Balvin, Christian Nodal and probably some Banda music like Banda Record.
Like I had said before don't over think everything just go with the flow and be up for anything, you had asked before about negotiating or bringing up BBFS CIP. I wouldn't bring it up but just let it happen naturally, if you go out drinking and dancing and get her juices flowing I'd almost guarantee it will happen. Not sure how your Spanish is but you might want to practice a few things to say to her during four play.I haven't been to Rosario in a long time in the summer. Are the clubs in the area mainly 30 and under or do you see all us old farts there too.
Captain Solo
07-02-23, 16:36
I ran into way too many stinky pussies in HK, like 50%, very disgusting to me.
HK's putas and managers follow ISG posts and gossip. I bring the issue up so they know about the problem and do something to fix it. Artiste suggested a feminine cream which allegedly keep ussies nice, clean, no foul odors. But backwards people are slow learners.
HK should hire an experienced mamasan who coaches the girls about hygiene, make ups, dresses, the art of seduction, sexy lovemaking and satisfying mongers in and out of bed. It would boost customers' satisfaction, increase girls' incomes and improve HK business. With lots of hot girls working, HK could aim to deliver the ultimate sexy experiences for high-end market with just a little coaching for girls. Instead HK delivers quickies with cold, hark stinky pussies, at the same level as cheap brothels in some of the worst ghettos of the world.
HK's stage handlers work closely with strippers but are mean butches, known to demand girls eat their pussies all night or face persecution. It's like having foxes guard the chicken coop. The butches likely brainwash new girls into believing sex with guys is dirty and disgusting, so retaliate by shoving your stinky pussies into their faces.
Captain Solo
07-02-23, 16:39
TJBrazil,
The worst part is to pay $100 for chicas who carry stinky pussies, act cold, stiff, ornery, resentful in bed, then they want you to finish quickly to get off them way before the 30 minutes, like a princess fucking a filthy beggar. Screwing them is like humping a cold hard log. Too many times I had to get rid of the putas with rotten pussies quickly so not stinking up the room. Damn disgusting.
OTOH a lot of street girls are slim spinners, nice, clean, smelling good and tend to have better attitudes, a few even do BBBJ and BBFS if they know you. I have not had any stinky pussies on the street of Tijuana, but too many in HK, WTF? Street girls would act loving, caressing you tenderly, pulling your ass in, groan, moan, pant, show lots of expressions of pleasure.
To counter HK's ridiculous inflation, get to know a few street girls, be nice and generous to them, give them propinas, treat them like friends, you will likely have some hot sessions.
I haven't been to Rosario in a long time in the summer. Are the clubs in the area mainly 30 and under or do you see all us old farts there too.Well I would say from my visit last year and the years before when living in Tijuana that the bars and clubs are open and full with all ages in the afternoon and early evening. Later at night places like Papas and Beer cater to the younger crowds. Most weekends in the summer they will have special musical guests to perform.
When I went last year the place had a nice mix of young people and families. If your an old guy alone later at night you might fill out of place but nobody's going to care.
AmericanPi
07-03-23, 05:40
That was a pretty incredible answer. Thank you. How'the you learn all of that?
Nothing to do with any of that.
There is a bit of a cultural issue involved, because Street Girls generally come from the sierra in the state of Puebla, whereas HK chicas large come from Sinaloa, but can come from anywhere.
However, by far the largest issue is that SGs are recruited by men from in and near the state of Puebla, ostensibly to travel to the US, but instead are required to work in Tijuana as SGs. The point is that by working on the street instead of a bar, they can be watched to see how many customers they generate per shift, so they hand the appropriate amount of cash over at the end of the shift.
I would name what these men are called, but that would trigger some people here. They mostly come from the small city of Tenancingo in Tlaxcala. They will have a handful of ladies working for them. Older ladies often take on the task of monitoring the other ladies, so the man doesn't have to do any work.
After years on the street, a few ladies go indie, which includes working bar, but that is rare.
Any questions should go to the Street Girl section, not here.
Yes, that is a house owned by a man who supplies you with street girls.
Nothing to do with any of that.
There is a bit of a cultural issue involved, because Street Girls generally come from the sierra in the state of Puebla, whereas HK chicas large come from Sinaloa, but can come from anywhere.
However, by far the largest issue is that SGs are recruited by men from in and near the state of Puebla, ostensibly to travel to the US, but instead are required to work in Tijuana as SGs. The point is that by working on the street instead of a bar, they can be watched to see how many customers they generate per shift, so they hand the appropriate amount of cash over at the end of the shift.
I would name what these men are called, but that would trigger some people here. They mostly come from the small city of Tenancingo in Tlaxcala. They will have a handful of ladies working for them. Older ladies often take on the task of monitoring the other ladies, so the man doesn't have to do any work.
After years on the street, a few ladies go indie, which includes working bar, but that is rare.
Any questions should go to the Street Girl section, not here.
Yes, that is a house owned by a man who supplies you with street girls.I want to pay him a visit. I got some questions for him.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-04-23, 07:57
I ran into way too many stinky pussies in HK, like 50%, very disgusting to me.
HK's putas and managers follow ISG posts and gossip. I bring the issue up so they know about the problem and do something to fix it. Artiste suggested a feminine cream which allegedly keep ussies nice, clean, no foul odors. But backwards people are slow learners.
HK should hire an experienced mamasan who coaches the girls about hygiene, make ups, dresses, the art of seduction, sexy lovemaking and satisfying mongers in and out of bed. It would boost customers' satisfaction, increase girls' incomes and improve HK business. With lots of hot girls working, HK could aim to deliver the ultimate sexy experiences for high-end market with just a little coaching for girls. Instead HK delivers quickies with cold, hark stinky pussies, at the same level as cheap brothels in some of the worst ghettos of the world.
HK's stage handlers work closely with strippers but are mean butches, known to demand girls eat their pussies all night or face persecution. It's like having foxes guard the chicken coop. The butches likely brainwash new girls into believing sex with guys is dirty and disgusting, so retaliate by shoving your stinky pussies into their faces."hire an mamasan to coach girls about hygiene?" are you listening to yourself? They're hookers or desperate women trying to make a buck. And you're not a high valued priest who needs to be treated like a god. You're a schmuck like the rest of us paying for sex from a hooker. Stop trying to pretend otherwise.
"hire an mamasan to coach girls about hygiene?" are you listening to yourself? They're hookers or desperate women trying to make a buck. And you're not a high valued priest who needs to be treated like a god. You're a schmuck like the rest of us paying for sex from a hooker. Stop trying to pretend otherwise.Aw, loosen up and let him have his moment. The real schmucks are the guys who read the "experts" here and believe it. Latino women mostly douche more than American women and it's actually a pretty unhealthy thing to do.
If you're a Cosplay Casanova who never actually talks to women or searches online on the subject or reads a book while you're posting to ISG from the public library, you can just make shit up.
BrotherMouzone
07-04-23, 19:41
"hire an mamasan to coach girls about hygiene?" are you listening to yourself? They're hookers or desperate women trying to make a buck. And you're not a high valued priest who needs to be treated like a god. You're a schmuck like the rest of us paying for sex from a hooker. Stop trying to pretend otherwise.It's his thing that he likes to continue to harp on for whatever reason. Don't know why chica hygiene has to continually be raised as an issue (most frequently by him) on these boards. Will say that I've personally never had a problem with any chicas where that's concerned and really wish this topic was brought up less. It's borderline disgusting (LOL) to discuss female hygiene and it's the same point being made over and over and over again.
It's his thing that he likes to continue to harp on for whatever reason. Don't know why chica hygiene has to continually be raised as an issue (most frequently by him) on these boards. Will say that I've personally never had a problem with any chicas where that's concerned and really wish this topic was brought up less. It's borderline disgusting (LOL) to discuss female hygiene and it's the same point being made over and over and over again.He is an annoying old turd constantly harping about the same things like "fish pussies". An obsession of his. I feel bad for these poor girls who have to fuck this old fart with cigarette breath and wrinkled skin.
Not sure how you heard back for the GE so quickly, I have been waiting on a response for several months now but I guess you just got lucky. How did the interview go?
Just got back. Below is the review. But just to answer @ Nothing24 real quick.
GE interview went well. So long as nothing comes up on my background check / fingerprints, I'll get the card in 2-3 weeks they said.
I think I just got lucky because there is about a 2 week gap between the appointments I got and the next available. Maybe it was the long weekend that left spots open?
ROSARITO TRIP Review.
*Disclaimer, this is just my HONEST feedback / experience of the trip, please save your throat fuckin for the whres*
Will breakdown the trip to what I feel is most relevant from brief to extensive.
Trip Duration: Arrive AIRBNB Sun at 4 pm. Depart Tues (today) at noon.
Girl's Flight:
-confirming she took the flight I bought her and arrived at Tijuana airport as I expected. I was running a little late due to traffic and she ended up waiting in the airport for a good 45 min without complaint.
*Tips*.
-not sure if I'd 100% recommend this? I only believed her because the night I took her at HK, she had mentioned at the start she was flying home the day after. Very well could have been a scam in other situations.
**Total $ = $200 round trip, including check-in luggage add-on.
Transportation:
-given it was my first time, I elected to skip driving my own car and just took taxis.
-apparently UBER is not allowed directly at Tijuana airport. You have to walk outside of AIRPORT grounds to get an UBER. Given the chica had been waiting 45 min, I skipped the walk and just took a cab.
-Rosarito taxis are a complete rip-off. But managed to find a cab driver who spoke a little english and gave me his number and was always johnny on the spot.
*Tips*.
-first timers, I think ubers or cabs are pretty easy if you have no experience like myself. MX car insurance would have cost me $85-90 anyways.
-if there is a next time, I will drive my car. There were plenty of CA license plates on the road towards Rosarito. (or maybe a rental... cuz maybe a porsche isn't a good idea in Baja... no flex intended)
**Total $ = $160 ish?
-Tijuana Airport Las Olas Grand = $60.
-Daily trips to Restaurants = $40.
-Las Olas Grand Tijuana = $60.
Food:
-almost in totality. The food was OK at best. Especially if you live in SOCAL where the mexican food is ALREADY great & other cuisines automatically better.
-I'd give it a 5/10. But then again I'm from NY and living in LA right now. And while great food would have been nice. It wasn't my #1 priority haha.
-Chica didn't have much experience in Rosarito and so didn't have any recommendations.
-I just picked seemingly 'safe' options with nice views and good reviews on tripadvisor, yelp, etc.
*Tips*.
-do as much research ahead of time if possible if its important to you. If you know locals, they'd probably know best.
**Total $ = 4 meals, total probably $300.
Only as much as it is because I'm a drinker.
Airbnb / Las Olas Grand:
-View was fantastic. Pools, jacuzzis, all decent enough.
-By no means was this a 5 start resort. FAR from it. So don't expect the Ritz.
-But it was incredibly calming to fall asleep to the sound of the Ocean and away from the craziness that is Tijuana / HK.
*Tips*.
-book away from holidays so its cheaper.
-lots of normies there, so if you're an older gentleman with a young chica. Don't be surprised if you get looks. I blended in more I think because I'm 31 with a 25 chica. But even then I got some looks occasionally considering I'm asian and she's mexican.
**Total $ = $450 ish?
Chica:
-The most important subject. Breaking it out into subcategories.
Attitude / Behavior:
-no attitude at all, was very calm and relaxed. Then again I got her at the start of her 'rotation' at HK. Never made a fuss about anything. No drama. Only expressed when she was sleepy or tired.
-but definitely was overall cautious as I did firmly say we would go shopping AFTER the trip and not before.
*Tips*.
-find a girl that is newer in HK and dumber. As in less street smarts & less experience hustling. More to this below & open to any further questions.
-perhaps no kids? The younger and more naive the better I assume. Or older and more desparate? Its a fine line perhaps.
-a chica that likes to drink is more fun. This one didn't drink much. No weed, no drugs. So was rather sober most of the time. Whereas I was not. (only booze and nicotine).
-only annoying thing was she kept bringing up her 'ex-boyfriends' (within context of conversation).
-some dudes really be ruining it for others. 2 asian dudes, 1 black guy.
-1st asian older guy bought her an LV bag and gave her $1 k of cash along with the bag. 2nd asian guy sold her the dream? Idk about gifts and stuff. The 1 black dude actually bought her a bouquet of roses for her at HK. She showed me the photos. I wouldn't be caught DEAD singling out a chica at HK like that. For fuck sake. Common denominator, they all live outside of SoCal.
-not sure if this was to set expectations or to try and hit my ego? Whatever it was, it didn't work. But she brought it up once each and never again.
**Rating = 7.5/10.
Performance:
-first night she was a bit tired and still on 'edge' so I elected to use a condom. But every session thereafter I did not.
-the next day she asked me if I used a condom because she was super sleepy and did not remember. I said "yes I know you were sleepy / tired, of course I did, but I prefer to not but wanted to make sure you were ok with it first".
-she appreciated the gesture I guess and asked me if I had gotten a test recently, and thankfully I did and had a photo of the results. Which she checked and said ok. End of story.
-BBFS, just no CIP. Because she said she wasn't on the pill so it was the pull out method each time. Not ideal but it was fine.
-her overall performance was oriented around making me nut as fast as possible. So she was great at fuckin and suckin. Too bad for her I was almost always drunk and did not nut that fast haha.
-I like both a GFE or PSE. Was ideally hoping for a GFE but ended up getting a PSE / working girl experience?
-overall, she wasn't super clingy or overly affectionate. But not 100% sure if that is due to my own personality as well? I was overly chill and lax as I was truly needing a break from life.
-Perhaps if I started off very affectionate, she would have reciprocated more? Not sure, would appreciate tips here.
-Not much cuddling or anything while sleeping, which means I slept fuckin well and as did she. But when we were chilling and watching NETFLIX, it was a bit more intimate.
*Tips*.
-not 100% sure. Would negotiating beforehand help? Or does it kill the mood?
-maybe I rushed a trip too soon before she was comfortable with me? Or maybe I should have initiated from the start? More context below in next section.
**Rating = 7. 5/10 (only because I personally was more in the mood for GFE / something more intimate).
Language:
-this will be quick. My spanish was not nearly as good as I thought and her english was not nearly as good as I thought it was.
-its harder to be charming, funny, witty when you're using a translation app 75% of the time.
-perhaps this might have been a bigger obstacle than I expected? Or a frustration on her part? Not sure.
*Tips*.
-obviously be better at spanish? LOL.
-or get a chica that is better at english? But this might have problems of its own.
Shopping:
-this will be quick. Sephora and Crocs.
Sephora = $325.
Crocs = $125.
**Total = $450.
*Chica total = $450 + $200 flight = $650.
Conclusion:
Total Nuts = 1 sun night, 4 Monday, 2 Tues. Morning.
Total BBFS = everything minus sun night.
Would I repeat with her? No. I'd prefer someone I might have more chemistry with or.
I'm not 100% sure and not to overcomplicate it. But through our conversation. This chica striked me as a chica that has given up on trying to get out of the industry. Note the first section about attitude / behavior and her 'ex-boyfriends'. She explicitly expressed she was not looking for a relationship and only wants a sugar daddy. Well I do not want to be either LOL.
Maybe she only acted this way... because it was less believable for her to believe ME specifically? If i'm being 100% honest and objective... i'm younger, more attractive and better company than any of the 'exes' she showed me. And maybe that would signal "hey he doesn't need to settle for me?" idk... just giving an honest take... not about stroking my own dick
Maybe it would be better to find a chica who still has the 'false' hope of being swept away? LOL idk.
Would I repeat the trip perhaps with another chica? Possibly. But Rosarito really ain't shit if you have been to places like Tulum, Cabo, PV, CXMX, etc.
Overall, I'd say it was worth the experience. It was not a bad time, just not 1000% of what I had wanted? But at the end of the day, it did not break the bank and I had a good time.
Hopefully this was helpful to some degree.
Bangkok here I come LOL.
***border crossing w/o GE was 25min at 3pm-ish
Just got back. Below is the review. But just to answer @ Nothing24 real quick.
GE interview went well. So long as nothing comes up on my background check / fingerprints, I'll get the card in 2-3 weeks they said.
I think I just got lucky because there is about a 2 week gap between the appointments I got and the next available. Maybe it was the long weekend that left spots open?
ROSARITO TRIP Review.
*Disclaimer, this is just my HONEST feedback / experience of the trip, please save your throat fuckin for the whres*
Will breakdown the trip to what I feel is most relevant from brief to extensive.
Trip Duration: Arrive AIRBNB Sun at 4 pm. Depart Tues (today) at noon.
Girl's Flight:
-confirming she took the flight I bought her and arrived at Tijuana airport as I expected. I was running a little late due to traffic and she ended up waiting in the airport for a good 45 min without complaint.
*Tips*.
-not sure if I'd 100% recommend this? I only believed her because the night I took her at HK, she had mentioned at the start she was flying home the day after. Very well could have been a scam in other situations.This is why I say you should get to know a girl a little better before you get to the vacation stage.
I'm going to give you a 4 out of 10.
Main points of consideration:
Negative:
1) Lack of chemistry. Did not find out beforehand if you would hit it off.
2) Went to Rosarito. Kind of boring. Especially since with the money you dropped you could just as well have upgraded to Cancun or some other place.
3) Too much taxi. Take your car to Rosarito.
4) Not a party girl. Boring.
5) Talked about other dudes?? I hate that.
Positive:
1) Got BBFS and a fair amount of sex (This is the only positive. If not for this I would have given you a 1).
Pointers:
1) Find a local girl. No flying her in. Especially on the first "date".
2) Rosarito is mostly for day trips. Not for longer stays.
3) You will be held hostage not having a car there, since it's not really a tourist mecca. Also, with a car you can easily make a side trip to Ensenada and Puerto Nuevo, wine routes, etc.
Take it from me. I don't post here much, but I had a "girlfriend" in Tijuana for years. I know the game and the girls pretty well. If you find a girl that really likes you you'll know. And if you do, it can a really great time.
Anyone have need for a HK VIP card that I expires Sept 26? Has my name on it, so may not be so easy to use? DM me if interested.
BrotherMouzone
07-05-23, 19:24
Just got back. Below is the review. But just to answer @ Nothing24 real quick.
GE interview went well. So long as nothing comes up on my background check / fingerprints, I'll get the card in 2-3 weeks they said.
I think I just got lucky because there is about a 2 week gap between the appointments I got and the next available. Maybe it was the long weekend that left spots open?
ROSARITO TRIP Review.
*Disclaimer, this is just my HONEST feedback / experience of the trip, please save your throat fuckin for the whres*
Very much appreciate the detailed, comprehensive review. But IMO that was a lot of time, effort, and $$$ spent on one chica LOL. Especially a chica you apparently hadn't already established a good connection with. To each his own, though would recommend reserving that kind of time, effort, and $$$ on chicas you know a lot better and had already established a much deeper connection with.
Me personally I'm not doing any of that with any chica no matter what. Too many other fish in the sea at HK and the other clubs.
This is why I say you should get to know a girl a little better before you get to the vacation stage.
I don't post here much, but I had a "girlfriend" in Tijuana for years. I know the game and the girls pretty well. If you find a girl that really likes you you'll know. And if you do, it can a really great time.
Very much appreciate the detailed, comprehensive review. But IMO that was a lot of time, effort, and $$$ spent on one chica LOL. Don't disagree with either of you. From a $$ standpoint, it was less expensive than how I much I usually spend in HK. Primarily due to the environment. But it was just nice to NOT be in that hectic environment for once and have some time to relax, which I did & was quite nice considering I didn't come back home all groggy and exhausted haha.
Not much effort on my part apart from making plans, otherwise I'd be a lot more disappointed for sure.
Lessons were learnt, pussy was was had, all in all any mistakes made won't be repeated and ill chalk it up to a learning curve on HK-external activities.
I'm still on the fence about finding normies. If you guys have any tips, would be greatly appreciated.
1- if its an app like tinder, I'm always worried about not seeing their body upfront and potentially being disappointed later?
2- I'm always wary of feelings being a factor. At the end of the day, I'm human as well. Knowing its a working girl. There is less than a 0% chance I'll ever get attached.
With a normal girl. I'm ALREADY thinking about looking outside of the USA for wifey so. Idk.
Don't disagree with either of you. From a $$ standpoint, it was less expensive than how I much I usually spend in HK. Primarily due to the environment. But it was just nice to NOT be in that hectic environment for once and have some time to relax, which I did & was quite nice considering I didn't come back home all groggy and exhausted haha.
Not much effort on my part apart from making plans, otherwise I'd be a lot more disappointed for sure.
Lessons were learnt, pussy was was had, all in all any mistakes made won't be repeated and ill chalk it up to a learning curve on HK-external activities.
I'm still on the fence about finding normies. If you guys have any tips, would be greatly appreciated.
1- if its an app like tinder, I'm always worried about not seeing their body upfront and potentially being disappointed later?
2- I'm always wary of feelings being a factor. At the end of the day, I'm human as well. Knowing its a working girl. There is less than a 0% chance I'll ever get attached..I think you did fine. The only problem, as I see it, is your lack of Spanish. You will never get the "intimacy" you desire if you can't speak her language. They will get terminally bored if they have to use a translate app 75% of the day, every day. So, take some classes, expand your Spanish, and you'll have more fun.
Regarding finding a normal girl, definitely look outside of the USA. Feminism has so poisoned the relationship between men and women that there is no point for a younger guy to try to make things work with a gringa. The down side is that you can never bring them to the States, without running a major risk of them picking up all of the American feminists' bad habits and attitudes.
Not going to give Phazze too much shit since it was his first time doing this with an HK girl and this hobby consists of a lot of trial and error. We learn as we go and improve on the next ones. Seems like you at least had a decent time and were able to go bare but now you know to do this with someone you have established a little bit more of a connection with.
-I like both a GFE or PSE. Was ideally hoping for a GFE but ended up getting a PSE / working girl experience?
-overall, she wasn't super clingy or overly affectionate. But not 100% sure if that is due to my own personality as well? I was overly chill and lax as I was truly needing a break from life.
-Perhaps if I started off very affectionate, she would have reciprocated more? Not sure, would appreciate tips here.
-Not much cuddling or anything while sleeping, which means I slept fuckin well and as did she. But when we were chilling and watching NETFLIX, it was a bit more intimate.
*Tips*.
-not 100% sure. Would negotiating beforehand help? Or does it kill the mood?
-maybe I rushed a trip too soon before she was comfortable with me? Or maybe I should have initiated from the start? More context below in next section.
**Rating = 7. 5/10 (only because I personally was more in the mood for GFE / something more intimate).
Language:
-this will be quick. My spanish was not nearly as good as I thought and her english was not nearly as good as I thought it was.
-its harder to be charming, funny, witty when you're using a translation app 75% of the time.
-perhaps this might have been a bigger obstacle than I expected? Or a frustration on her part? Not sure.
I'm willing to bet this chick has a man at home and is in love with him, or at least what she considers what it is to be in love. He's a bum who doesn't provide and can't take care of her but she's been with him for so long that she doesn't care that he isn't a provider as long as he "loves" her. He doesn't care what she does as long as she takes care of her own shit, brings home money and lets him bang her hot girl friends from HK along with her. Best to move onto the next one. Every night there are girls inside HK who are willing to DFK, BBBJ, BBFS, let you put it in their ass, give you rimjobs, etc. You just have to develop the skills to track them down when you're on the hunt. If you want an affectionate girl keep your eyes peeled on guys that already have a chick at their table. You don't even have to be a great looking guy, I have seen many unattractive and out of shape guys receiving amazing lap dances, DFK, FIV, hand jobs at tables. Sometimes the mongering gods bless you and you hit the jackpot with a wild chica without even trying as well. A couple weeks ago a horny Venezuelan chick at Chicago literally bumped into me and we were DFK'ing right off the rip and never let up. I took her to the hotel and had a very passionate session. Met up with her again outside of the club just the other day at her suggestion and had a good time. I wrote about it in the General topic thread.
Since your Spanish isn't too great I would suggest trying to stick to girls that can at least carry a conversation in English if you plan on trying to take another girl to hang out outside of the club that way not too much is lost in translation. If you can't find one ask some meseros if they know which girls on duty can speak English, most likely they will at least know a couple and hopefully they're to your liking. Invite her for a drink or two and see how she behaves. If you feel like you're not getting anywhere just be straight up about what you would like from her. You'll be able to tell right away if she's down or not.
Tip for you and other Asians: about a month ago met a very cute chick that goes by Brazil at HK. She said she likes Asian guys more than any other race. She’s about 25 years old, brunette, light skinned, seemingly all natural body. Saw her drinking with some guys this past Sunday and she was being nice and very playful with them. See if a mesero can help you track her down.
I think you did fine. The only problem, as I see it, is your lack of Spanish. The down side is that you can never bring them to the States, without running a major risk of them picking up all of the American feminists' bad habits and attitudes.Yea, in the club its hard to carry a conversation with the loud ass music anyways. Overestimated by spanish ability haha even though I took 4 years of it in HS and now I only remember bad words and monger words lmao. Either going to have to re-learn spanish or find a chica who speaks some english. But then again, I didn't have this issue with the thai chick I did the same thing with a few years back and she didn't speak any english either. Could have just been this chica wasn't into me. Totally possible too. Even though she surely acted very differently the first time in HK.
Not going to give Phazze too much shit since it was his first time doing this with an HK girl and this hobby consists of a lot of trial and error. We learn as we go and improve on the next ones. Seems like you at least had a decent time and were able to go bare but now you know to do this with someone you have established a little bit more of a connection with.
Tip for you and other Asians: about a month ago met a very cute chick that goes by Brazil at HK. She said she likes Asian guys more than any other race. Shes about 25 years old, brunette, light skinned, seemingly all natural body. Saw her drinking with some guys this past Sunday and she was being nice and very playful with them. See if a mesero can help you track her down.Unless she got a divorce within the last 6 months, I'm 100% she's got a man and exactly to your description. Typical bum that gets 10 x out earned by his HK Chica.
I honestly do not trust any of the Chicas that say they like Asian guys more than other races. Of all the ones I've fucked in HK, maybe 95% of them say the same thing. Its all to cater towards the client they're currently with, no? Also I assume Chicas like asian guys as admittedly, some of the other asians are prone to overpaying & not being too demanding. And perhaps less aggressive than other ethnicities? IE: stereotypical black dudes in HK.
Def no plans on repeating with this girl. She's blowing my phone up as we speak and trying to get me come back down ASAP.
At this point, I'd only arriba with her in HK if she BBBJ CIM in the middle of the club just to prove to me dedication lmao.
Would I repeat with her? No. I'd prefer someone I might have more chemistry with or.
I'm not 100% sure and not to overcomplicate it. But through our conversation. This chica striked me as a chica that has given up on trying to get out of the industry. Note the first section about attitude / behavior and her 'ex-boyfriends'. She explicitly expressed she was not looking for a relationship and only wants a sugar daddy. Well I do not want to be either LOL.
Maybe she only acted this way... because it was less believable for her to believe ME specifically? If i'm being 100% honest and objective... i'm younger, more attractive and better company than any of the 'exes' she showed me. And maybe that would signal "hey he doesn't need to settle for me?" idk... just giving an honest take... not about stroking my own dick
Maybe it would be better to find a chica who still has the 'false' hope of being swept away? LOL idk.
Would I repeat the trip perhaps with another chica? Possibly. But Rosarito really ain't shit if you have been to places like Tulum, Cabo, PV, CXMX, etc..I want to keep this as friendly as possible because I gain nothing from trying to gain validation or coming off blunt to strangers on here.
Based off what you shared, it is quite obvious you're not the all star bachelor. I'm not trying to be rude or mean, but being honest, you seemed like you weren't all that prepared to take a woman out for a weekend trip. Not only were you not prepared, you also had no idea what to expect and came here trying to figure out whether you should take her to sephora or you should do it yourself.
If anything, she realized you were frugal and not worth her time. Whether it be she saw you're not capable of being a sugar daddy or that she was annoyed with your frugalness. ("Did you get on the flight?" "What kind of make up are you thinking about getting? Her saying she doesn't want a relationship is her telling you nicely she doesn't want anything further with you and the hint at the sugar daddy is that would be the only place in her life she would accept you in.
hey he doesn't need to settle for me?You might be more attractive and younger, those are easy to measure and size up, but I can already see you are not that fun to be around or in your words, "better company".
Glad you had a decent time, but I doubt she is thinking of you at all. But don't worry, just go to hk and blow loads to blow loads or to add girls to your memory bank. If you're going to stroke your ego (which you claim your not doing but it surely sounds like it), theres going to be girls to chop your ego down because they are out of your league (my league as well) and that's the cold truth.
Find a girl you like in HK, return one or two times for her. If you find her wanting to connect outside of work, these are the girls you bring out the club. Vet them just like they vet you.
Ultimately, I think you can do better if you did some work ahead of time and vetted the girl out. Sorry it didn't work out perfectly but at least you have experience and a better direction to how to go for your next time taking a girl out the club.
Captain Solo
07-06-23, 00:35
Can probably use for free drinks and free parking, but for Cascada's room discount, they want to see ID at check in.
I was at HK on Sunday evening. HK had the best looking girls I have ever seen there. There was a lot of blondes. One of the employees told me that some of hotter ones were there for 4th of July. I am vey surprised since HK is by far the best & biggest adult club in Mexico. My only theory is the some of the girls work part time.
LuvMexicanas
07-06-23, 05:18
He is an annoying old turd constantly harping about the same things like "fish pussies". An obsession of his. I feel bad for these poor girls who have to fuck this old fart with cigarette breath and wrinkled skin.Have you met him? Just curious because I haven't.
I want to keep this as friendly as possible because I gain nothing from trying to gain validation or coming off blunt to strangers on here.
If anything, she realized you were frugal and not worth her time. Whether it be she saw you're not capable of being a sugar daddy or that she was annoyed with your frugalness.
Ultimately, I think you can do better if you did some work ahead of time and vetted the girl out. Sorry it didn't work out perfectly but at least you have experience and a better direction to how to go for your next time taking a girl out the club.Good observations.
I too am frugal and would agree not be a good fit to have a great weekend with a gal who is looking for a sugar daddy.
I think there is nothing wrong with frugal as long as we are realistic on what we will and will not get.
I guess frugal is OK for weekend / overnight fun with gals in Asia vs the ones in Tijuana expect more $$.
Glad Phazze93 has Asia as a fall back.
I want to keep this as friendly as possible because I gain nothing from trying to gain validation or coming off blunt to strangers on here.
Based off what you shared, it is quite obvious you're not the all star bachelor. I'm not trying to be rude or mean, but being honest, you seemed like you weren't all that prepared to take a woman out for a weekend trip. Not only were you not prepared, you also had no idea what to expect and came here trying to figure out whether you should take her to sephora or you should do it yourself.
If anything, she realized you were frugal and not worth her time. Whether it be she saw you're not capable of being a sugar daddy or that she was annoyed with you
Based on what he spent on the trip all together, I would say he is far from frugal. If he spent this much on a chick he barely knew, I'm sure he would be willing to shell out way more for a girl who he really clicked with and would be willing to provide a genuine girlfriend experience. I know I sure as hell would never spend that much, but I'm admittedly a cheap skate deep down and make sure every girl I hook up with knows it so they don't expect something crazy from me. At the same time they know I am willing to pay a fair amount for their time, but they know I'm not the type to blow hundreds on drinks, get ripped off by meseros and overpay for arriba trips.
At the end of the day it's OK that the trip went how it went for him. None of us bat a thousand. We live and we learn.
Yea, in the club its hard to carry a conversation with the loud ass music anyways. Overestimated by spanish ability haha even though I took 4 years of it in HS and now I only remember bad words and monger words lmao. Either going to have to re-learn spanish or find a chica who speaks some english. But then again, I didn't have this issue with the thai chick I did the same thing with a few years back and she didn't speak any english either. Could have just been this chica wasn't into me. Totally possible too. Even though she surely acted very differently the first time in HK.
Unless she got a divorce within the last 6 months, I'm 100% she's got a man and exactly to your description. Typical bum that gets 10 x out earned by his HK Chica.
I honestly do not trust any of the Chicas that say they like Asian guys more than other races. Of all the ones I've fucked in HK, maybe 95% of them say the same thing. Its all to cater towards the client they're currently with, no? Also I assume Chicas like asian guys as admittedly, some of the other asians are prone to overpaying & not being too demanding. And perhaps less aggressive than other ethnicities? IE: stereotypical black dudes in HK.
Def no plans on repeating with this girl. She's blowing my phone up as we speak and trying to get me come back down ASAP.
At this point, I'd only arriba with her in HK if she BBBJ CIM in the middle of the club just to prove to me dedication lmao.For her to fly out and go away with you to Rosarito without the promise of thousands of dollars, she had to at least like you somewhat. Maybe not in a romantic way, but girls aren't going to make that trip with just anybody. If you had the communication down you could have possibly talked her into a much better experience.
I'm not Asian so that Brazil girl gained nothing from telling me she is attracted to Asian men. I think the only reason it came up was because she asked me what type of women I'm generally attracted to first and then in turn I asked what type of men she likes and she told me.
If that girl you took on the trip keeps texting you just tell her that you have found another girl or girls who have provided a more intimate experience for you. Either she will leave you alone or will ask what they did for you that she didn't and tell her exactly what you want. She will either say oh ok I don't do that, or tell you that she is willing to go that extra mile for you if you continue seeing her. Girls don't like to lose out on good clients.
Sounds like overall good trip.
I have seen a few girls now. Some in Tijuana, some I flew into Tijuana and some I saw in their town. None are perfect in all ways. I am pretty good with my monger sense. All were good locas. To me it is about the sex and fun times.
Any girl I spend time with, when they drink, I get more of their unfiltered self. This has been good and bad.
Having driven all over Quintina Roo I agree TJ/Roaarito/Ensanda is not that great. For me it is more about convience and easier to find out if I want to spend more than 1 or 2 days with a loca. I typically spend a few hours with a loca. If that looks good I do overnight. If that goes well then multiple days.
Each one had things I liked and things I did not like. That comes with spending more than a day with anyone imo.
Probably best thing about meeting these hotties in the club is we do not spend enough time together to find out each others traits we dislike.
*Chica total = $450 + $200 flight = $650.
Conclusion:
Total Nuts = 1 sun night, 4 Monday, 2 Tues. Morning.
Total BBFS = everything minus sun night.
Would I repeat with her? No. I'd prefer someone I might have more chemistry with or.
I'm not 100% sure and not to overcomplicate it. But through our conversation. This chica striked me as a chica that has given up on trying to get out of the industry. Note the first section about attitude / behavior and her 'ex-boyfriends'. She explicitly expressed she was not looking for a relationship and only wants a sugar daddy. Well I do not want to be either LOL.
Maybe she only acted this way... because it was less believable for her to believe ME specifically? If i'm being 100% honest and objective... i'm younger, more attractive and better company than any of the 'exes' she showed me. And maybe that would signal "hey he doesn't need to settle for me?" idk... just giving an honest take... not about stroking my own dick
Maybe it would be better to find a chica who still has the 'false' hope of being swept away? LOL idk.
Would I repeat the trip perhaps with another chica? Possibly. But Rosarito really ain't shit if you have been to places like Tulum, Cabo, PV, CXMX, etc.
Overall, I'd say it was worth the experience. It was not a bad time, just not 1000% of what I had wanted? But at the end of the day, it did not break the bank and I had a good time.
Hopefully this was helpful to some degree.
Bangkok here I come LOL.
***border crossing w/o GE was 25min at 3pm-ish
Baxter Slade
07-06-23, 16:17
Any girl I spend time with, when they drink, I get more of their unfiltered self. This has been good and bad.
Each one had things I liked and things I did not like. That comes with spending more than a day with Funny about the drinking thing. In the majority of Tijuana relationships I have been in I have noticed lesbian tendencies come out when they get drunk. But who can blame them women are beautiful and dudes not so much. Unfiltered chicas are fun.
As far as things I like and dislike in these relationships, its a good thing they don't check all the boxes. If I were to ever discover the perfect women down there I would be in big trouble.
Captain Solo
07-06-23, 16:17
Only low lifes would poke their dicks into women feeling grimy and smelling rotten like public toilets. No civilized gentlemen would engage women with obvious signs of diseases.
Hong Kong should hire an Inspector General inspecting women at the start of their shifts for general health and cleanliness, diseases, foul smells, mental illnesses ect before letting them work in the club.
Captain Solo
07-06-23, 22:07
Guys treat ordinary Mexican women with multiple previous BFs, husbands, half dozen kids ect like princesses, worship them, waste time, throw money on them.
Truth is, most are less than attractive and would have to pay Mexican guys for a little sex.
Each one had things I liked and things I did not like. That comes with spending more than a day with anyone imo.
Probably best thing about meeting these hotties in the club is we do not spend enough time together to find out each others traits we dislike.So true and a very good observation.
I even got tired of my best friend after being together & sharing a room with him for a week in Hawaii.
Only low lifes would poke their dicks into women feeling grimy and smelling rotten like public toilets. No civilized gentlemen would engage women with obvious signs of diseases.
Hong Kong should hire an Inspector General inspecting women at the start of their shifts for general health and cleanliness, diseases, foul smells, mental illnesses ect before letting them work in the club.Captain. Some of your posts are hilarious- thank you.
The term "stinky pu. " is forever associated with your name.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/u-s-authorities-plan-to-issue-warrant-for-downey-man-accused-of-killing-sex-worker-in-tijuana/3183525/
Glad to see they finally got him.
Only low lifes would poke their dicks into women feeling grimy and smelling rotten like public toilets. No civilized gentlemen would engage women with obvious signs of diseases.
Hong Kong should hire an Inspector General inspecting women at the start of their shifts for general health and cleanliness, diseases, foul smells, mental illnesses ect before letting them work in the club.My first reaction is to call this trolling, but it's just... weird.
LuvMexicanas
07-07-23, 19:45
My first reaction is to call this trolling, but it's just... weird.Welcome to the Tijuana threads. We're accustomed to it or perhaps a more accurate way to put it is we're numb to it.
FlacasOnly420
07-07-23, 22:43
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/u-s-authorities-plan-to-issue-warrant-for-downey-man-accused-of-killing-sex-worker-in-tijuana/3183525/
Glad to see they finally got him.Been messaging with the girls for the past hour. Wish it didn't take so long to find him but a great job regardless. I remember many more the ago he messed up and sold one of the girls phones so it was just a matter of time. The first time I used musas the girl was a little upset they had sent her to a new client because she was aware of the killings and had requested repeat customers only.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/u-s-authorities-plan-to-issue-warrant-for-downey-man-accused-of-killing-sex-worker-in-tijuana/3183525/
Glad to see they finally got him.That dudes face was all over Mexican Tijuana news months ago. I guess it's a lot paperwork to get USA to a rest someone for something done in Mexico.
That dudes face was all over Mexican Tijuana news months ago. I guess it's a lot paperwork to get USA to a rest someone for something done in Mexico.Some people are really bad at killing people. Cameras everywhere. Witnesses everywhere. I guess he didn't care if he got caught.
SportMongr
07-08-23, 05:07
Only low lifes would poke their dicks into women feeling grimy and smelling rotten like public toilets. No civilized gentlemen would engage women with obvious signs of diseases.
Hong Kong should hire an Inspector General inspecting women at the start of their shifts for general health and cleanliness, diseases, foul smells, mental illnesses ect before letting them work in the club.How do we make this happen? Let's hit them in their pocketbooks! Get a boycott stank movement going! Wait. They push out sardine can snatch and still make millions. Dam it! This won't be easy.
Explorer8939
07-08-23, 10:27
I know a HK chica who wants to travel to Thailand.
The problem is that she doesn't speak English. Not to mention all the other issues associated with traveling with a bargirl.
One obvious approach is to engage slowly, maybe go to the DF for a few days. If she can't handle that, she can't go to Thailand.
If she isn't serious, no problem, I will just see her in the bar.
BrotherMouzone
07-08-23, 18:19
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/u-s-authorities-plan-to-issue-warrant-for-downey-man-accused-of-killing-sex-worker-in-tijuana/3183525/
Glad to see they finally got him.What stood out to me in the article is them saying the killer was shown on video exiting the hotel room (at Cascadas) and then "thirteen minutes later" he was at the border checkpoint providing his documentation to a customs officer. That's got to be an all-time record LOL.
I know a HK chica who wants to travel to Thailand.
The problem is that she doesn't speak English. Not to mention all the other issues associated with traveling with a bargirl.
One obvious approach is to engage slowly, maybe go to the DF for a few days. If she can't handle that, she can't go to Thailand.
If she isn't serious, no problem, I will just see her in the bar.Why would anyone take a HK gal to Thailand? . You will feel miserable stuck with a HK gal and bypassing the Thai gals there.
I know a HK chica who wants to travel to Thailand.
The problem is that she doesn't speak English. Not to mention all the other issues associated with traveling with a bargirl.
One obvious approach is to engage slowly, maybe go to the DF for a few days. If she can't handle that, she can't go to Thailand.
If she isn't serious, no problem, I will just see her in the bar.Bro. Don't take sand to the beach! I personally would not take an HK chica anywhere but my bed to fuck. Why would you bring a working girl from Tijuana to Thailand? Thailand has a lot of pretty girls to fuck and have fun with. Anyways good luck with that it is your time and money not mine.
What stood out to me in the article is them saying the killer was shown on video exiting the hotel room (at Cascadas) and then "thirteen minutes later" he was at the border checkpoint providing his documentation to a customs officer. That's got to be an all-time record LOL.If you have sentri / global entry card then 13 minutes is doable if you are in a hurry and traffic is light.
With low traffic you can be at the border in 7 minutes after leaving hotel and then another 3 minutes to walk to the head of the line and another 2 minutes to walk to the guard.
AmericanPi
07-09-23, 14:55
This is an anonymous forum so I don't feel the need to be particularly polite here. I'm just going to call it as I see it.
I would pay money to see how your life is set up. Like how your decisions have laddered up to a life construct.
Even considering taking a bar girl on such an elaborate international trip shows such a poor level of judgment and anticipation of bad consequences that I can't quite wrap my head around what you think is going to happen here.
Do you think she's just going to be a well behaved travel companion? This is a girl who gets paid to have sex with strangers in a border city.
And you'd go to another world class mongering destination with a bar girl from another country in tow? I can't even start to pick this apart. The message would be too long.
Dude. No. Stop.
I know a HK chica who wants to travel to Thailand.
The problem is that she doesn't speak English. Not to mention all the other issues associated with traveling with a bargirl.
One obvious approach is to engage slowly, maybe go to the DF for a few days. If she can't handle that, she can't go to Thailand.
If she isn't serious, no problem, I will just see her in the bar.
I want to keep this as friendly as possible because I gain nothing from trying to gain validation or coming off blunt to strangers on here.
Ultimately, I think you can do better if you did some work ahead of time and vetted the girl out. Sorry it didn't work out perfectly but at least you have experience and a better direction to how to go for your next time taking a girl out the club.Little harsh. LOL but to each their own. Trial & error as someone else said earlier. Had to start somewhere.
In fairness. Has anyone actually met a hooker that was interesting in any aspect beyond the work they do?
Regardless of where you do this, MX, Asia, etc. One can only prepare so much, but I never go into a trip like this expecting intellectual conversations, witty banter, etc.
You can hardly expect that from well educated non-working girls. It'd be a shock if a hooker working in a 3rd world brothel could be stimulating anything besides emptying my nuts.
To that extent, my expectations are just. Nut, eat good food, relax / chill, have some laughs, rinse & repeat. The only connection worth having with a working girl is connecting your dick to whatever hole you desire.
The girls got a family and if all she seeks is a sugar daddy arrangement, by all means haha. Not looking to wife up a Tijuana hooker.
And I can confirm, all she wants is money. As she won't stop blowing up my phone about when she'll see me again.
Will I see her again? Probably not. But as a travel companion, she was not bad at all. Super chill & low maintenance.
Regarding spending, I'll pay for whatever the service justifies within my means. By no means am I financially comfortable enough to fly her to the maldives and buy her an hermes birkin. Maybe you're far better off than me.
However. Nor would I even if I could. For a working girl. Thats wifey territory spending LOL.
Sounds like overall good trip.
Probably best thing about meeting these hotties in the club is we do not spend enough time together to find out each others traits we dislike.Agreed that rosarito is probably only good for testing grounds. IMO.
If I had a choice, I'm spending my money to go to Tulum or somewhere a little nicer. But at the same time, I'm not taking a Chica I just met to somewhere nicer where the $$ adds up much faster. Unless I have a verified good connection with her.
For me personally, the spending in Rosarito was predictably lower and more controlled than a place like Tulum or Cabo. And the proximity to Tijuana and the border was nice.
Last thing I need is to take a chica I don't know well enough to Tulum & make a pit stop at the local LV store and have a $10 k hole in my wallet LOL.
The nicest store between Rosarito and Tijuana I've seen so far is sephora. Which on that note is quite shit.
That store had nothing in stock and everything was more expensive than the US sephoras oddly enough.
Little harsh. LOL but to each their own. Trial & error as someone else said earlier. Had to start somewhere.People are like assholes they are many and varied and most of the time full of shit. Take any comment on these forums with a grain of salt. All mongers have an opinion LOL.
BrotherMouzone
07-10-23, 00:23
This is an anonymous forum so I don't feel the need to be particularly polite here. I'm just going to call it as I see it.
I would pay money to see how your life is set up. Like how your decisions have laddered up to a life construct.
Even considering taking a bar girl on such an elaborate international trip shows such a poor level of judgment and anticipation of bad consequences that I can't quite wrap my head around what you think is going to happen here.
Do you think she's just going to be a well behaved travel companion? This is a girl who gets paid to have sex with strangers in a border city.
And you'd go to another world class mongering destination with a bar girl from another country in tow? I can't even start to pick this apart. The message would be too long.
Dude. No. Stop.LOL. I actually generally agree with you but I think it's just one of those "to each his own" sort of things. Like you, I don't get the thought process behind wanting to take one of these chicas, chicas who a lot of times these dudes barely even know, on a vacation like that or even on a day trip for that matter. But keep in mind that people from all walks of life, across all levels of social status, can have poor judgment and make bad decisions. PARTICULARLY MEN WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT PUSSY. I think what I've just written in caps there is the crux of this situation, LOL. As well as similar situations I've read about on these boards where mongers seem bent on dragging these chicas along with them as travel companions.
With all that said, there are a few chicas I've gotten to know over the years (mostly a bit older. I. e. , in their 30's) who I think I could trust to be "well behaved" as a travel companion. Some of the girls I know are so relaxed and chill that I can't imagine they'd be a problem. But I'd still never in a million years consider taking them on any sort of vacation outside of Tijuana. That strikes me as absurd on multiple levels. But again, to each his own. How the next man chooses to spend his time and $$$ with another chica doesn't affect or bother me.
AmericanPi
07-10-23, 02:24
Regardless of where you do this, MX, Asia, etc. One can only prepare so much, but I never go into a trip like this expecting intellectual conversations, witty banter, etc.
You can hardly expect that from well educated non-working girls. It'd be a shock if a hooker working in a 3rd world brothel could be stimulating anything besides emptying my nuts.
Charlie Sheen famously said about hookers, "I don't pay them to stay. I pay them because they leave. " There's wisdom there. The problem with bringing a bar girl as a travel companion is that you have to talk to them. Yes they're real people blah blah blah. But come on. I can probably tell you half their life story right here. Grew up with poor options in a less than ideal city. Some event caused a need for quick cash. Child, sick mom, something. Started working at HK. The problem is once you get past the first 2 hours of conversation and sex, you've got days and days to kill with them.
My bet is this poster would find himself willing to pay money just to make her go away. Just like Charlie Sheen.
In fairness. Has anyone actually met a hooker that was interesting in any aspect beyond the work they do?
Regardless of where you do this, MX, Asia, etc. One can only prepare so much, but I never go into a trip like this expecting intellectual conversations, witty banter, etc.
You can hardly expect that from well educated non-working girls. It'd be a shock if a hooker working in a 3rd world brothel could be stimulating anything besides emptying my nuts.
Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.
I've learned much about rural life in Thailand from Thai bar girls, just for one example. Growing up on a farm, village life, special treats like silkworms after working to unravel the silk from their cocoon. Eating in Thai-only restaurants and drinking / dancing in Thai-only discos. Places most foreigners would never set foot in.
I'll never forget breaking through the shell of a Cambodian girl who "worked beer" in Seam Reap. She still cried when she related life as a young girl in a small village, and when the Viet soldiers came through looking for Pol Pot sympathizers. They kidnapped her brother, never to be seen again, and tortured her father to death.
So, yes, one can learn a lot about life and other cultures from hookers if one stops being self-absorbed for a few minutes.
While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-10-23, 07:59
I finally encountered a fishy smelling chica down below. It definitely does cause a gag reflex. But still not worth all the discussion that has appeared on this board, LOL.
Last thing I need is to take a chica I don't know well enough to Tulum & make a pit stop at the local LV store and have a $10 k hole in my wallet LOL.
The nicest store between Rosarito and Tijuana I've seen so far is sephora. Which on that note is quite shit.
That store had nothing in stock and everything was more expensive than the US sephoras oddly enough.It is hard to paint a broad brush over the whole population of working girls. They come from all walks of life just like mongers do. The main thing you need to know is that you control how much you're willing to spend on this hobby just like any other. Some people have varying hobbies like watch, car, various other collections. The main thing you're paying for is the experience.
I would say the majority of the working girls have same story, poor economic conditions that made them decide to trade their time for money and do something strange for some change. Most you find around the world are hardened pros. The beauty I see about Mexico and Thailand is that you meet some trying to get themselves and their families out of their challenging economic situations. It is opposite compared to the ones you'll find in USA, Dubai, Europe where they are looking for their next luxury trip or luxury clothing item. You can meet some that are genuine and authentic and show you their country. They are your translator, lover, and friend when times are good. The general consensus from mongers are pay, enjoy, and move to the next. I agree with that concept, but you don't get to experience the country without the help of a local. Main thing is to have fun, enjoy life, and stay safe!
I know a HK chica who wants to travel to Thailand.
The problem is that she doesn't speak English. Not to mention all the other issues associated with traveling with a bargirl.
One obvious approach is to engage slowly, maybe go to the DF for a few days. If she can't handle that, she can't go to Thailand.
If she isn't serious, no problem, I will just see her in the bar.Sounds like you've been in Thailand too long. How about bringing a Thai to Mexico or just do a week or two in Mexico by yourself? Variety is the spice of life.
Dcrist0527
07-10-23, 20:02
Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.
I've learned much about rural life in Thailand from Thai bar girls, just for one example. Growing up on a farm, village life, special treats like silkworms after working to unravel the silk from their cocoon. Eating in Thai-only restaurants and drinking / dancing in Thai-only discos. Places most foreigners would never set foot in.
I'll never forget breaking through the shell of a Cambodian girl who "worked beer" in Seam Reap. She still cried when she related life as a young girl in a small village, and when the Viet soldiers came through looking for Pol Pot sympathizers. They kidnapped her brother, never to be seen again, and tortured her father to death.
So, yes, one can learn a lot about life and other cultures from hookers if one stops being self-absorbed for a few minutes.
While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.Perfectly said. The arrogance on these boards can be nauseating. If you see these girls as hookers, treat them like hookers, and only look to find the hole you desire, then, no, you wouldn't see the value. Because there's another hole that can be filled in Tijuana less than 6 feet away. But, that also doesn't mean your opinion is valid. I have gone on vacations with more than one working girl. Granted, I haven't sprung for a flight to Thailand. But I've taken Medellin girls to Cartagena or Playa del Carmen. I've taken Tijuana girls to Cabo or Cancun. I even brought a Vallarta girl to Medellin. Yes, the bringing sand to the beach analogy isn't wrong. However, there are girls that I just enjoy their company. Do we discuss quantam physics? No. But we do carry on interesting, intelligent conversations. I'm a 6-figure, white collar worker and I'd like to think my intelligence is above average. (I suppose most of us would feel that way.) Nonetheless, one of my most recent "vacations" was with an HK girl. We went to her home country. This girl is really into politics. And she and I probably could be best described as polar opposities politcally. However, she is fascinating. The sex is fantastic, but I don't fly 6 hours with her just to have sex. She's interesting. And I dare say, it makes the sex better.
Bottom line, no, in my opinion, it would make no sense to bring a girl on a long, expensive trip when you're only interest is in banging her silly. But if you enjoy her company, trust her, and agree on the financials, I say go for it! As always, people on this board are myopic. Their experiences and desires are the only correct answer.
And before anyone flames me, these were not expensive trips. Typically, I'll pay travel expenses, I. E. Flight, hotel and most meals. And that usually covers it. Here's a secret. Most of these "poor, uneducated country girls", as many have called them, love to travel. And they are very thankful.
BrotherMouzone
07-10-23, 20:50
While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.Well, I'd say it at least to an extent becomes our business to provide criticism / feedback once they've decided (of their own accord) to post the details of their business on a public forum such as this. But, as I've said numerous times on this issue, to each his own. I don't care how the next man decides to spend their time or $$$ on these chicas, was just pointing out that it's something I'd never in a million years do with a relative stranger who MAY have deep-rooted issues which led to her becoming a hooker in the first place. Also consider that a lot of these girls have men that they truly love at home, which can further complicate things and make things awkward. So all things considered, strikes me as not the best judgment and there are plenty of other fish out in the sea but again, do you.
Well, I'd say it at least to an extent becomes our business to provide criticism / feedback once they've decided (of their own accord) to post the details of their business on a public forum such as this. But, as I've said numerous times on this issue, to each his own. I don't care how the next man decides to spend their time or $$$ on these chicas, was just pointing out that it's something I'd never in a million years do with a relative stranger who MAY have deep-rooted issues which led to her becoming a hooker in the first place. Also consider that a lot of these girls have men that they truly love at home, which can further complicate things and make things awkward. So all things considered, strikes me as not the best judgment and there are plenty of other fish out in the sea but again, do you.You make way too much sense. People will get even more confused now.
In all seriousness though some guys fall hook, line, and sinker no matter where the pussy comes from. You CANNOT reason with guys like this. They can be the most successful person with a laundry list of degrees but when it comes to women and common sense they fall apart.
You have to let them experience the negatives first hand. There is NO other way they will learn.
Well, I'd say it at least to an extent becomes our business to provide criticism / feedback once they've decided (of their own accord) to post the details of their business on a public forum such as this. But, as I've said numerous times on this issue, to each his own. I don't care how the next man decides to spend their time or $$$ on these chicas, was just pointing out that it's something I'd never in a million years do with a relative stranger who MAY have deep-rooted issues which led to her becoming a hooker in the first place. Also consider that a lot of these girls have men that they truly love at home, which can further complicate things and make things awkward. So all things considered, strikes me as not the best judgment and there are plenty of other fish out in the sea but again, do you.I think you're reading too much into it. Many girls are willing to travel, simply to experience new things they might otherwise never get to experience. To me it looks like they both had fun, to one degree or another, nobody was hurt, nobody got taken to the cleaners financially, and OP learned a lot. I'd call that a win. Next time he'll know more and the experiences will improve.
SportMongr
07-11-23, 02:01
It's his thing that he likes to continue to harp on for whatever reason. Don't know why chica hygiene has to continually be raised as an issue (most frequently by him) on these boards. Will say that I've personally never had a problem with any chicas where that's concerned and really wish this topic was brought up less. It's borderline disgusting (LOL) to discuss female hygiene and it's the same point being made over and over and over again.I have a good bud and fellow Mexico traveler who lost his sense of smell in a skateboard fall. Sadly it also affects his taste. He now has a superpower!! - he can dive face first in some of the dirtiest holes south of the boarder and always come up with a huge smile! :) he's not the best guy to get a chica report from. Typical report is "the chica was awesome, but she could have the stankest snatch and I wouldn't even know. ?" So perhaps you can't smell or your sense of smell is tuned down. There are many people with tuned up sense of smells like myself and if you think spending $100's + drinks and narrowing down 2-3 girls you are chasing in the club to 1, and then after hours find your dick curling up because you caught 1 whiff of some of the most foul moldy fish sauce created. Is a nothing burger to try to problem solve. I think you are wrong. IF HK supervisors read these posts, then dead fish needs to be reported even if if makes you squidish. This is a business. And business can always, always be run better. Especially if middle management lesbian penis envy mamaasan's are out pushing out tainted product for personal reasons.
When you treat your vagina like a trash can it starts smelling like one.
Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.
While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.
Relax... You're acting as if all my posts have been exclusively about using and abusing working girls lmao. I'm simply highlighting that there's an exchange. I get what I want, she gets what she wants. Anything benefits beyond that is extra, which would be welcome.
A girl is welcome to talk about anything she wants and I'll happily converse to the best of my ability barring any restrictions due to a language barrier.
A girl is also welcome to tell me what she is or isn't comfortable with in the bedroom, I'd never pressure her into something she's not comfortable with.
This goes for being inside the club & anywhere outside.
My point was simply that its more rare to find a girl who can engage in stimulating conversation than not, but stimulating conversation is also not my priority in this hobby, merely a bonus if it occurs.
My priority being emptying my nuts.. i'd assume like most mongers.
But i agree with you about the travelling part... while i enjoy very much Hong Kong and how fun it can be... its nice to see the sunlight once in a while lol and just relax... normal life is already stressful enough, i don't have the energy or patience to stress myself out further when mongering
The beauty I see about Mexico and Thailand is that you meet some trying to get themselves and their families out of their challenging economic situations. It is opposite compared to the ones you'll find in USA, Dubai, Europe where they are looking for their next luxury trip or luxury clothing item. You can meet some that are genuine and authentic and show you their country. They are your translator, lover, and friend when times are good. The general consensus from mongers are pay, enjoy, and move to the next. I agree with that concept, but you don't get to experience the country without the help of a local. Main thing is to have fun, enjoy life, and stay safe!To be honest, in this day & age. I'll respect a chica doing this kind of work to support their kids / family over a superficial tiktok monkey in the western world any day. Not to say there aren't good girls left. But its quite exhausting to have to dig through all the trash to find them. Especially in cities like LA, Miami, NY, etc.
Bottom line, no, in my opinion, it would make no sense to bring a girl on a long, expensive trip when you're only interest is in banging her silly. But if you enjoy her company, trust her, and agree on the financials, I say go for it! As always, people on this board are myopic. Their experiences and desires are the only correct answer.
And before anyone flames me, these were not expensive trips. Typically, I'll pay travel expenses, I. E. Flight, hotel and most meals. And that usually covers it. Here's a secret. Most of these "poor, uneducated country girls", as many have called them, love to travel. And they are very thankful.Just depends on the girl, no? This particular chica wasn't really a great conversation partner beyond day to day topics. But again, I'm at fault as well due to my spanish not being fluent.
However, what I can appreciate was her energy. Super calm and chill. Which is what I need when I'm going on a 'vacation' to relax and reset. Hence, I'd consider taking her again if I just wanted a super relaxing trip with 0 drama and was busting at the seams with jizz.
AmericanPi
07-11-23, 13:26
Let me say a few things.
Ok I see the point of those of you who have had good experiences taking working girls on vacation. They sound like good experiences.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. Yes these girls are human and often have lives and interests outside of the clubs. Some might be interesting and have good stories. But it's playing with fire. A vacation is a captive audience. You can't change your mind very easily and you don't really know these girls. A crazy spell, a mental illness, a boyfriend or pimp who checks up constantly, anything. It can happen with civ girls too obviously. But you play your odds. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.
Funny story.
I had an HK girl send me a message last week asking me to visit her in Tijuana. She said one of her favoritos bought her a plane ticket from her home town to Tijuana. I guess she planned to be in Tijuana for a week before going on a trip with this favorito to Guadalajara. I headed down and spend 2 night with her at Quartz Hotel and had some great sessions. Funny thing is, the entire time I was with her, she had an incredible amount of clients scheduling time with her before she left for Guadalajara. All the while she's telling the favorito that she is waiting alone in her hotel for him to fly in from SF. Got to give it to these girls, they know how to capitalize but also a lesson to remind us all not to fall for these girls. It's all business fellas!
LuvMexicanas
07-11-23, 19:30
Funny story.
I had an HK girl send me a message last week asking me to visit her in Tijuana. She said one of her favoritos bought her a plane ticket from her home town to Tijuana. I guess she planned to be in Tijuana for a week before going on a trip with this favorito to Guadalajara. I headed down and spend 2 night with her at Quartz Hotel and had some great sessions. Funny thing is, the entire time I was with her, she had an incredible amount of clients scheduling time with her before she left for Guadalajara. All the while she's telling the favorito that she is waiting alone in her hotel for him to fly in from SF. Got to give it to these girls, they know how to capitalize but also a lesson to remind us all not to fall for these girls. It's all business fellas!It's just your turn are words to live by.
LuvMexicanas
07-12-23, 00:05
Let me say a few things.
Ok I see the point of those of you who have had good experiences taking working girls on vacation. They sound like good experiences.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. Yes these girls are human and often have lives and interests outside of the clubs. Some might be interesting and have good stories. But it's playing with fire. A vacation is a captive audience. You can't change your mind very easily and you don't really know these girls. A crazy spell, a mental illness, a boyfriend or pimp who checks up constantly, anything. It can happen with civ girls too obviously. But you play your odds. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.You call out some legit risks. I've had good experiences with taking working girls on vacations. Let's first start with cost. Working girls or civvies, I'm pretty old school in that I cover all expenses aside from any personal shopping she wants to do. I make a good living and unless she does too, a big part of my enjoyment is giving a girl an experience she could not afford on her own. Also, girls who have traveled very little and therefore are less worldly tend to appreciate and be more grateful for being with you at a cool destination. In that vein, I avoid taking chicas who expect payment. She's going with me because she wants to and that alone mitigates a lot of the risk of taking a working girl on vacation. Come to think of it, the only time a vacation went sideways with a chica involved a civvie.
Dcrist0527
07-12-23, 02:05
You make way too much sense. People will get even more confused now.
In all seriousness though some guys fall hook, line, and sinker no matter where the pussy comes from. You CANNOT reason with guys like this. They can be the most successful person with a laundry list of degrees but when it comes to women and common sense they fall apart.
You have to let them experience the negatives first hand. There is NO other way they will learn.With one exception, my vacations were with girls that I'd consider friends with benefits. Taking an attractive girl on a vacation doesn't mean you've fallen for a girl. At least in my case, it simply means I enjoy her company and the sex. Foreign concept to some, I suppose. It's kind of laughable, honestly. Only here is the norm considered paying for and bargaining over 30 minute encounters. There's alot people are missing.
Dcrist0527
07-12-23, 02:14
Just depends on the girl, no? This particular chica wasn't really a great conversation partner beyond day to day topics. But again, I'm at fault as well due to my spanish not being fluent.
However, what I can appreciate was her energy. Super calm and chill. Which is what I need when I'm going on a 'vacation' to relax and reset. Hence, I'd consider taking her again if I just wanted a super relaxing trip with 0 drama and was busting at the seams with jizz.100% it's got to be the right girl. Many will see it as a way to get rich. So the right girl, and more importantly, clear expectations. The one semi-bad experience I had was due to a miscommunication. The girl expected that I wouldn't mess around with any other girls. It was just a bit awkward but it all worked out. Lesson learned. Now, everything is discussed up front.
Dcrist0527
07-12-23, 02:24
Let me say a few things.
Ok I see the point of those of you who have had good experiences taking working girls on vacation. They sound like good experiences.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. Yes these girls are human and often have lives and interests outside of the clubs. Some might be interesting and have good stories. But it's playing with fire. A vacation is a captive audience. You can't change your mind very easily and you don't really know these girls. A crazy spell, a mental illness, a boyfriend or pimp who checks up constantly, anything. It can happen with civ girls too obviously. But you play your odds. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.Very good points. I'm searching my mental notes. LOL I've never taken a girl that I haven't seen and known for quite a while. I generally do longer dates while mongering. I don't live near any of these playgrounds. But I stay in touch with these girls. There are a lot of liars but you can weed them out easily with minimal effort.
But you are right. The risks shouldn't be minimized. It's not something to be done with girls you just met.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.Agree 100% - this forum is to exchange experiences, learn from each other and share points of view.
Also agree taking a working gal on a vacation is too big a risk for most of us.
Captain Solo
07-12-23, 15:11
Even in the poorest slums of the world, only the lowliest, most disgusting prostitutes have stinky pussies Few guys want to touch them. They command the lowest prices, like beggars begging for food.
HK is supposed to be an upscale club for gentlemen but way too many of its women have serious hygiene and health problems. Any restaurants or service businesses smelling that bad would have been shut down quickly. But HK continues pushing diseases. Guys are poking their dicks into cans of worm, but some think that's just normal. May be normal to lowlifes but not to normal, healthy, upright people.
HK has to coach these girls in hygiene and health requirements. Caballero can shut HK down for not checking health cards, not monitoring health of its workers, potentially spreading diseases, as a source of health risks.
Captain Solo
07-12-23, 15:33
Must be a hot girl to have all those guys lined up for sessions. Putas are always working on their phones to line up guys. They are not playing with friends.
Lots of guys seem starved for love and affection, look for the sincerest love from Tijuana putas besides just sex. Putas play them like yoyos with lies and manipulations. The girls have unemployed BFs to please and needy kids to feed. They will do whatever it takes to make oney.
But if they can have moments of love and care, even fake ones, from hot girls without losing all their net worth, it's still worth it to them compared to alternatives like nasty divorces with nasty, bitchy wives and their horny, greedy attorneys. Attorneys will provide fake sympathy and emotional support to divorcing wives, get love and affection, screw them for free, while digging out all the wealth they can from guys. Then the court will screw guys to give up half their assets, pay alimony and child support for years.
To older guys with money, it's a good deal to pay couple hundred dollars for love, affection and hot sex with sweet, young girls every week or month with no long term commitments and consequences.
Yep. It's all about money. The slick operators get all the sex and money; stupid ones lose all their wealth and get no sex.
Hi folks,
Hope you guys have been well. I fondly remember reading many of your commentary; Captain, SeebeeJoe come to mind.
It's been a few years since my last trip and my work schedule is finally allowing me to attempt a daytime trip.
I hope it's not too much of an ask, to tag along some of the experienced folks here.
I've always done drive-through visits and I'd be happy to be the designated driver.
Does anyone plan to visit during daytime?
It's always a pleasure and sometimes amusing to hear about everyone's visits. Be safe everyone.
Adam.
Even in the poorest slums of the world, only the lowliest, most disgusting prostitutes have stinky pussies Few guys want to touch them. They command the lowest prices, like beggars begging for food.
HK is supposed to be an upscale club for gentlemen but way too many of its women have serious hygiene and health problems. Any restaurants or service businesses smelling that bad would have been shut down quickly. But HK continues pushing diseases. Guys are poking their dicks into cans of worm, but some think that's just normal. May be normal to lowlifes but not to normal, healthy, upright people.
HK has to coach these girls in hygiene and health requirements. Caballero can shut HK down for not checking health cards, not monitoring health of its workers, potentially spreading diseases, as a source of health risks.How about HK getting stinky P__y sniffing dogs?
Must be a hot girl to have all those guys lined up for sessions. Putas are always working on their phones to line up guys. They are not playing with friends.
Yep. It's all about money. The slick operators get all the sex and money; stupid ones lose all their wealth and get no sex.Obv I'm still new to vacationing with Tijuana putas. But from what I can see on social media (few putas I keep in touch with) and seeing their friends. There are a LOT of dudes flying these girls out all across MX. And pretty frequently as well it seems. Cabo, PV, Cancun, Tulum, etc.
That or the girls are just making that much money in HK? Idk.
Either way, it does not seem like an exaggeration of how these chica's egos might be a little inflated when they're being pampered left & right.
If a 6/10 chica is being flown to Cabo, imagine how the 10/10's are being treated lmao.
any tips on spotting newbies in HK that arent seasoned vets would be appreciated lol
would love to catch a chica before she gets over exposed
Captain Solo
07-13-23, 17:07
Rambo has an excellent idea.
Would be a lot cheaper to employ a dog sniffing putas' crotches in the dressing room.
There's still good ones out there fellas.
Club girl saying she just wants to fuck, no dinero required. Happy hunting.
Captain Solo
07-14-23, 15:50
Lots of HK girls are taken on vacations by guys due to cheap domestic airfares in Mexico. It's very nice to go to resorts in exotic places with trophy fucks, day time touring sights, fun recreations, spicy food, strong drinks, companies of hot girls and hot sex all night.
Lots of HK girls would do ti and It costs guys very little for those vacations, cheaper than booking escorts on site. RT flights from Tijuana to Cancun or Acapulco only cost around $150 year round on many airlines. Guys would have to pay for their own rooms anyway so taking a girl along does not cost a lot more, and it's a lot more fun.
I know a few girls who were taken to far more expensive vacations, Paris, Madrid, Europe, Argentina, Brazil ect. Guys do spend time and money on them. My wingmen have taken the hottest HK girls on vacations. Most ran into huge problems on the road as they did not negotiate compensations clearly in advance. The girls expected guys to treat them like princesses and be far more than generous. When they feel guys were cheap and taking advantage of them, they acted up, started nasty fights, withheld sex, make guys miserable, ruined the vacations and could potentially make criminal accusations. Some even flaked out after guys already bought airfares and booked hotels ect. So better for everyone to make sure they agree to the details before going.
Another wingmen visited some sweetest-looking HK girls in their home towns, got the real romantic BF treatments, 3 meals a day, clothes laundered, sentimental gifts, partying with college crowds ect all without money compensation. BTW he spends big money in HK so the girls are impressed and want LTRs.
Look for girls who stand by themselves in HK, not interacting with other girls. They are new and have not made friends. Buy them drinks. Show them you are nice and generous. You will find good companies for vacations. With Google Translate the language barrier is broken. A lot of fun can be had at many levels with hot, sexy girls on the road.
HK's business model let guys arrange all kinds of sexy relationships with hot girls at low costs compared to other venues in the rest of the world.
Last night I took a chica up and wanted to get a short time room at Hotel Cascadas. There is no longer the 30 minutes for 30 dollars option. Now, it cost 40 dollars for forty minutes!
Obv I'm still new to vacationing with Tijuana putas. But from what I can see on social media (few putas I keep in touch with) and seeing their friends. There are a LOT of dudes flying these girls out all across MX. And pretty frequently as well it seems. Cabo, PV, Cancun, Tulum, etc.
That or the girls are just making that much money in HK? Idk.
Either way, it does not seem like an exaggeration of how these chica's egos might be a little inflated when they're being pampered left & right.
If a 6/10 chica is being flown to Cabo, imagine how the 10/10's are being treated lmao.
any tips on spotting newbies in HK that arent seasoned vets would be appreciated lol
would love to catch a chica before she gets over exposedIts actually very easy spot newbies.
1. look for 20 yrs or younger (obviously younger less miles less jaded).
2. Look for least amount or no plastic surgery.
I spot them easy or get my mesero to give me my list of preferred girls. I have a mesero who knows I want the newest and youngest girls. So he usually has at least 3 lined up for me. Table each one and get the best one.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.
https://www.kxan.com/border-report/report-cartels-fighting-for-control-of-brothels-and-strip-clubs-in-tijuanas-tolerance-zone/ Looks like the Cartels were trying to kill the owner of HK yesterday. Might be looking to disrupt the club in the future. Be careful, be vigilant, be a hard target.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.It is insane for what you get. Don't forget there is competition. Chicago is better, though they are asking 120-130 now. The&G. I don't know yet. Trop, girls are cheaper but same $40 room. Honestly, at this point it would be best to just get a better experience from an agency.
Hopefully Adelitas comes back and isn't owned by HK.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.Yeah can confirm HK is not worth it anymore especially for those like me who don't live in CA. With the safety and cartel issues it is best to go elsewhere.
I get hot GFE asians for the same price hhr in NYC and latinas even cheaper. Why pay 200-250 total (room and drinks included) for a quick 30 min session that will often be rushed and non-GFE.
Aviator400
07-15-23, 13:25
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.Recently I have been exploring Nogales and Mexicali. Nogales because it is close and Mexicali because it has a surprising number of clubs.
Even on weekdays I can find a few that check all of the boxes.
I get hot GFE asians for the same price hhr in NYC and latinas even cheaper. Why pay 200-250 total (room and drinks included) for a quick 30 min session that will often be rushed and non-GFE.Where are you finding them Korea Town or online chat forums? Would love to know. Thanks.
Yeah can confirm HK is not worth it anymore especially for those like me who don't live in CA. With the safety and cartel issues it is best to go elsewhere.
I get hot GFE asians for the same price hhr in NYC and latinas even cheaper. Why pay 200-250 total (room and drinks included) for a quick 30 min session that will often be rushed and non-GFE.Mongering was good in flushing nyc even up to 4 yrs ago. I would get a massage and table shower for hour $40. When they ask for sex and. Give high price I just say no thanks just massage then the price dropped. Maybe I'd pay $100 more. But you get a shower afterward as well and the only guy that worked there never said nothing. Wasn't like going into a room full of 300 beggers for $ like Mexico brothels.
What a joke. Tijuana is an overpriced tourist trap joke now. Wine bottle drinks? LOL.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.
https://www.kxan.com/border-report/report-cartels-fighting-for-control-of-brothels-and-strip-clubs-in-tijuanas-tolerance-zone/ Looks like the Cartels were trying to kill the owner of HK yesterday. Might be looking to disrupt the club in the future. Be careful, be vigilant, be a hard target.I think I saw her in HK last night. I know she was not a working by the way she dressed and all the mersos were around her doing what ever she was saying.
What a joke. Tijuana is an overpriced tourist trap joke now. Wine bottle drinks? LOL.The escort agencies is the only reasonable option left but eventually that will get run to the ground due to all the HK guys flocking to it.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.I do not take women "up" in HK but I still like to go and hang out with my friends. We have a good time! So the prices do not bother me because I never participated LOL.
Where are you finding them Korea Town or online chat forums? Would love to know. Thanks.They are everywhere man especially in the DMV area. I was quite surprise when I went to work there for 10 months on a project.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.Well they priced me out once it went from 60 to 80 about 4 yrs ago. And those were the lesser attractive Las chavelas girls. Once I couldn't participate I often wrote "girls should just charge 200 at this point so many guys got tons of $$ they can pay $500 and it wouldn't matter ". Remember a lot dudes are inly in town 4 days a week. And most make 6 figures or way beyond. Or inherited assets. Or their wife makes good $$. Some guys enjoy expensive things more than they enjoy cheap things and are happier when paying more. So 40 for the room, a lot guys are paying 2 or 3 rooms a day, 200 x3 for sex, but even if they drop 1 k a day in hk, and only go 5 days a year. That's nothing to them. They can pay quadruple what they are paying now as long as they don't try and go 4 x week like I was LOL. That's why I had to go cold turkey. It was just impossible to pay more than $60. I don't need sex once every two weeks. Either I need it 3 x week or more or not at all.
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.1. The problem is the strong Peso. Today it is 16.75 Pesos for $1. For comparison, in April 2020 it was 24.98 Pesos for $ 1. So $100 was 2498 Pesos now is 1675 Pesos. 2498 - 1675 = 823 Pesos ($49 difference) so chica today has almost $50 less money than it did in April 2020. (July 2008 $1 was 10 Pesos!) Now $30 drink and $40 room price is too high and I suggest we email HK management complaining. Elephant in the room is illegal prostitution in the US (except for a few small counties in Nevada). If there were legal, safe brothels with girls from Latin America, Asia, Europe in LOS Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco area, prices in Tijuana Zona Norte would drop by 50%. Unfortunately politicians in the US decided around 1914 that legal and regulated prostitution was unhealthy for us and made it illegal. They closed down the big Red Light District "Barbary Coast" in San Francisco and "Storyville" in New Orleans etc. Now we still have prostitution in the US but illegal and unregulated on the street, full of aggressive pimps, STDs, violence, and police sting operations in motels.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-16-23, 07:51
Met a HK chica in HK and took her arriba. Exchanged numbers. She's already aggressively texting me to meet up for arriba session outside the club. By aggressive, I mean excessively texting about whether I can come and meet up, updates, constant badgering of whether I can come for quick fling. She keeps saing she can just come and meet me outside the club and we can go to the hotel cascadas because she isn't working at whatever hour she wanted to meet. However, my gut tells me something is weird given her aggressiveness to meet up and to meet me outside her working time when we just met. Sure we had a pleasant time together, but it wasn't anything magical to warrant this type of neediness and comfort level of meeting me in her off hours.
My questions:
1) sound fishy?
2) can you even take an HK girl who is off shift arriba to the hotel cascadas? I imagine there's something hidden fee she's not telling me about.
And in response to the common posts now, I also think HK fees are ridiculous. $40 for their hotel room 25 minute bang bang is ridiculous. Chicago club is only $17.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-16-23, 07:54
Met a HK chica in HK and took her arriba. Exchanged numbers. She's already aggressively texting me to meet up for arriba session outside the club. By aggressive, I mean excessively texting about whether I can come and meet up, updates, constant badgering of whether I can come for quick fling. She keeps saing she can just come and meet me outside the club and we can go to the hotel cascadas because she isn't working at whatever hour she wanted to meet. However, my gut tells me something is weird given her aggressiveness to meet up and to meet me outside her working time when we just met. Sure we had a pleasant time together, but it wasn't anything magical to warrant this type of neediness and comfort level of meeting me in her off hours.
My questions:
1) sound fishy?
2) can you even take an HK girl who is off shift arriba to the hotel cascadas? I imagine there's something hidden fee she's not telling me about.
And in response to the common posts now, I also think HK fees are ridiculous. $40 for their hotel room 25 minute bang bang is ridiculous. Chicago club is only $17.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-16-23, 10:09
1. The problem is the strong Peso. Today it is 16.75 Pesos for $1. For comparison, in April 2020 it was 24.98 Pesos for $ 1. So $100 was 2498 Pesos now is 1675 Pesos. 2498 - 1675 = 823 Pesos ($49 difference) so chica today has almost $50 less money than it did in April 2020. (July 2008 $1 was 10 Pesos!) Now $30 drink and $40 room price is too high and I suggest we email HK management complaining. Elephant in the room is illegal prostitution in the US (except for a few small counties in Nevada). If there were legal, safe brothels with girls from Latin America, Asia, Europe in LOS Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco area, prices in Tijuana Zona Norte would drop by 50%. Unfortunately politicians in the US decided around 1914 that legal and regulated prostitution was unhealthy for us and made it illegal. They closed down the big Red Light District "Barbary Coast" in San Francisco and "Storyville" in New Orleans etc. Now we still have prostitution in the US but illegal and unregulated on the street, full of aggressive pimps, STDs, violence, and police sting operations in motels.Also getting tired of the $20 parking fee at the border and the $10 taxi fee one way for a 2 minute ride. Basically have to spend $40 just for parking and to and from transportation each time. Gets annoying and it adds up each time.
Just wait until HK chicas start moving to the escort agencies for work because HK is going downhill. They will bring their bullshit with them. It's only a matter of time. I already had one ex HK escort. Many more to come IMO.
They are everywhere man especially in the DMV area. I was quite surprise when I went to work there for 10 months on a project.If you go into north Jersey across the george Washington bridge you can get an hour massage GFE top tier chinese babes for 160 who actually know how to fuck. If I do long distance travel I am sure as fuck not paying 150 for hh for mid latinas, going to thailand or Germany is more worth it at this point. I don't even know why people still cling onto HK post pandemic. Are the indies there still worth it? Its more efficient for me to go Spain from east coast at this point.
RikyMichaels7
07-16-23, 18:08
I think I am done with HK. Girls are now starting at 150. One even told me for 120 it is only sex no oral. And the room are now 40. So if I am going to pay 190 or 160 why do I need to cross the boarder?
Now they arw pushing wine bottle drinks for the girls at 30 each.
There are pleanty of good looking girls in CA for a quick visit or hhr.
It wasnt just one girls but a few.
I don't know maybe I am just being cheap but this is just insane.I have had enough of Hong Kong. First of all, they ruined the place by taking over Chavelas, now they are pulling a 30 dollar wine scheme which pisses me off and to top it all off, my evil former Tropical GF now works there. I'm done. Not to mention the turf war extortions taking place. Hasta la vista baby.
If you go into north Jersey across the george Washington bridge you can get an hour massage GFE top tier chinese babes for 160 who actually know how to fuck..Fort Lee / Palisades.
Can you get to these places by riding a bike across the GW Bridge?
Met a HK chica in HK and took her arriba. Exchanged numbers. She's already aggressively texting me to meet up for arriba session outside the club. By aggressive, I mean excessively texting about whether I can come and meet up, updates, constant badgering of whether I can come for quick fling. She keeps saing she can just come and meet me outside the club and we can go to the hotel cascadas because she isn't working at whatever hour she wanted to meet. However, my gut tells me something is weird given her aggressiveness to meet up and to meet me outside her working time when we just met. Sure we had a pleasant time together, but it wasn't anything magical to warrant this type of neediness and comfort level of meeting me in her off hours.
My questions:
1) sound fishy?
2) can you even take an HK girl who is off shift arriba to the hotel cascadas? I imagine there's something hidden fee she's not telling me about.
And in response to the common posts now, I also think HK fees are ridiculous. $40 for their hotel room 25 minute bang bang is ridiculous. Chicago club is only $17.For the most part we're all pretty anonymous with each other on here. I have no idea how old you are, what you look like or how much money you make. So you have to be real with yourself. If you met this girl in the real world would you have any chance of pulling her? Are you good looking or have enough game to bag her? If both answers are a no then you know where her mind is at. You also have to consider whether you over spent on her to the point that she thinks you're loaded and can be one of her benefactors. Did she quote 150 for arriba and you didn't even negotiate and hand it over? Did you invite her for drinks and pay for the $30 wine "bottles" without protest? Were you downing shots of tequila?
If you're going to take her outside of the club the absolute last place you want to meet her is Cascadas. They will tax the shit out of you at every turn. If you want to test her say you'll meet outside of the club but no Cascadas and see how she reacts. If she is insistent at only being at Cascadas, block her and lose her number. Any HK girl worth a damn and really wants to spend time with you will actually warn you against staying at Cascadas and will suggest other legit options. Any girl insisting at being at Cascadas only is running a scam with the staff to fleece you out of money. Getting a room at Cascadas is only good for having a place to rest for a little while or for being with a girl for 30 or 60 minute sessions only. Anything beyond that you're looking at bar fines, mandatory beer buckets and constant badgering from staff and higher ups.
Also getting tired of the $20 parking fee at the border and the $10 taxi fee one way for a 2 minute ride. Basically have to spend $40 just for parking and to and from transportation each time. Gets annoying and it adds up each time.Why aren't you using the free rides from the HK vans or limos?
If you have to use a taxi remain firm at $5 or $6 at most. I have never paid more than that ever. You might have to hit up multiple taxis to agree to that price, but trust me you will find them.
Also getting tired of the $20 parking fee at the border and the $10 taxi fee one way for a 2 minute ride. Basically have to spend $40 just for parking and to and from transportation each time. Gets annoying and it adds up each time.You could get GE and just drive across and park in the Zona. Just becomes a problem if you like to drink and risk the police pulling you over.
I have had enough of Hong Kong. First of all, they ruined the place by taking over Chavelas, now they are pulling a 30 dollar wine scheme which pisses me off and to top it all offI've never had the wine scheme as you say forced or pushed by a waiter. The wine is ordered by the girl and if you agree to it that's your fault. Not sure how often you would go or how much Spanish you know but the easiest way to avoid this is to find a waiter you like and only use him. He will ask you if the wine is ok if that's what the girl orders. If you don't have a normal waiter just listen to what the girl orders and if you here "vino" tell her no and she will order something else or not sit with you.
Well they priced me out once it went from 60 to 80 about 4 yrs ago. And those were the lesser attractive Las chavelas girls. Once I couldn't participate I often wrote "girls should just charge 200 at this point so many guys got tons of $$ they can pay $500 and it wouldn't matter ". Remember a lot dudes are inly in town 4 days a week. And most make 6 figures or way beyond. Or inherited assets. Or their wife makes good $$. Some guys enjoy expensive things more than they enjoy cheap things and are happier when paying more. So 40 for the room, a lot guys are paying 2 or 3 rooms a day, 200 x3 for sex, but even if they drop 1 k a day in hk, and only go 5 days a year. That's nothing to them. They can pay quadruple what they are paying now as long as they don't try and go 4 x week like I was LOL. That's why I had to go cold turkey. It was just impossible to pay more than $60. I don't need sex once every two weeks. Either I need it 3 x week or more or not at all."Either I need it 3 x week or more or not at all".
That's a strange conclusion to come to LOL no sex at all. Your control as a man is crazy LOL maybe when I'm 80 years old I'll get that way.
If you go into north Jersey across the george Washington bridge you can get an hour massage GFE top tier chinese babes for 160 who actually know how to fuck. If I do long distance travel I am sure as fuck not paying 150 for hh for mid latinas, going to thailand or Germany is more worth it at this point. I don't even know why people still cling onto HK post pandemic. Are the indies there still worth it? Its more efficient for me to go Spain from east coast at this point.I think people still go to HK because it's familiar and you kindof know what your getting especially with the other surrounding clubs.
Tijuana in general is a close nice deal for me. So I do not think slow rising prices will stop the crowd so to speak.
Met a HK chica in HK and took her arriba. Exchanged numbers. She's already aggressively texting me to meet up for arriba session outside the club. By aggressive, I mean excessively texting about whether I can come and meet up, updates, constant badgering of whether I can come for quick fling. She keeps saing she can just come and meet me outside the club and we can go to the hotel cascadas because she isn't working at whatever hour she wanted to meet. However, my gut tells me something is weird given her aggressiveness to meet up and to meet me outside her working time when we just met. Sure we had a pleasant time together, but it wasn't anything magical to warrant this type of neediness and comfort level of meeting me in her off hours.
My questions:
1) sound fishy?
2) can you even take an HK girl who is off shift arriba to the hotel cascadas? I imagine there's something hidden fee she's not telling me about.
And in response to the common posts now, I also think HK fees are ridiculous. $40 for their hotel room 25 minute bang bang is ridiculous. Chicago club is only $17.She is a prostitute she wants your money. Your making this harder than it actually is LOL If she's begging like that already then she must not be making that much or she's greedy like the rest LOL.
Enjoy!
ABAJoeSmith123
07-16-23, 22:30
For the most part we're all pretty anonymous with each other on here. I have no idea how old you are, what you look like or how much money you make. So you have to be real with yourself. If you met this girl in the real world would you have any chance of pulling her? Are you good looking or have enough game to bag her? If both answers are a no then you know where her mind is at. You also have to consider whether you over spent on her to the point that she thinks you're loaded and can be one of her benefactors. Did she quote 150 for arriba and you didn't even negotiate and hand it over? Did you invite her for drinks and pay for the $30 wine "bottles" without protest? Were you downing shots of tequila?
If you're going to take her outside of the club the absolute last place you want to meet her is Cascadas. They will tax the shit out of you at every turn. If you want to test her say you'll meet outside of the club but no Cascadas and see how she reacts. If she is insistent at only being at Cascadas, block her and lose her number. Any HK girl worth a damn and really wants to spend time with you will actually warn you against staying at Cascadas and will suggest other legit options. Any girl insisting at being at Cascadas only is running a scam with the staff to fleece you out of money. Getting a room at Cascadas is only good for having a place to rest for a little while or for being with a girl for 30 or 60 minute sessions only. Anything beyond that you're looking at bar fines, mandatory beer buckets and constant badgering from staff and higher ups.
Why aren't you using the free rides from the HK vans or limos?
If you have to use a taxi remain firm at $5 or $6 at most. I have never paid more than that ever. You might have to hit up multiple taxis to agree to that price, but trust me you will find them.Her agressiveness to see me outside the club after only 1 encounter at the club makes me suspect she's got something malicious planned like a mugging or something. I don't use the HK limo be / see I'm not a fan of advertising to the world I'm going to a working girl house in a car with HK written all over it and lights flashing. I enjoy my anonymity when I go to HK and zona norte for obvious reasons.
Also getting tired of the $20 parking fee at the border and the $10 taxi fee one way for a 2 minute ride. Basically have to spend $40 just for parking and to and from transportation each time. Gets annoying and it adds up each time.Wow, those are some serious First World Problems you have right there.
Dcrist0527
07-17-23, 02:50
Her agressiveness to see me outside the club after only 1 encounter at the club makes me suspect she's got something malicious planned like a mugging or something. I don't use the HK limo be / see I'm not a fan of advertising to the world I'm going to a working girl house in a car with HK written all over it and lights flashing. I enjoy my anonymity when I go to HK and zona norte for obvious reasons.Good logic, but sir, you are overthinking this, in my opinion. I'll be the first to say: follow your gut. If you aren't comfortable, delete her number. I don't find anything fishy about it. But I'd trust your gut. I think she's probably just a hustler, trying to earn. But if you aren't completely comfortable, you aren't going to enjoy it. Personally, I would not worry about a mugging. I think if that were to happen, she'd try to get you AWAY from Cascadas.
As for the limo, with respect, who do you think you are fooling? If you are a single gringo crossing into Mexico, most will assume you are going to the zona. Even if you weren't they'll assume that. And while I wouldn't be afraid of a taxi, the limo would almost certainly be safer. And less expensive.
Cocr Brotheler
07-17-23, 06:20
Oh hell Yes! Or even Italy, Germany or Amsterdam. France now especially Paris I stay away from.
And Spain an amazing fun country with great fun lively party people outside the p4p seen. And if you want some p4p you can get it quite nicely! My best p4p was the Chinese brothel in Madrid! Women from all around the world selling their asses in Spain!
I was stationed in far southern Spain (Rota) in the Navy in the early 90's and kept going back until the early 2000's after I repeatedly got jilted LOL by regular Spanish women and then discovered Costa Rica and Colombia p4p options so much closer to south eastern USA.
HK fun but certainly not the only option and don't have to go Asia either, they "cum" to Jersey and Europe too.
Just don't "do it" in Texas, has been a felony a couple years now (frown).
Also getting tired of the $20 parking fee at the border and the $10 taxi fee one way for a 2 minute ride. Basically have to spend $40 just for parking and to and from transportation each time. Gets annoying and it adds up each time.Tips to save money. Park your car at the trolley station parking for free (I repeat free) 24 hour limit. Good parking stations: E Street, H Street, Palomar St. Or Palm Ave. Take the trolley to the border San Ysidro station $2. 50 one way (senior 60+ $1. 25) link to San Diego transit https://www.sdmts.com/ Take a free limo to Hong Kong (I tip the driver $3). Back to the border the same. Limo to the border and trolley to the parked car. The last trolley from San Ysidro is at 1248 AM, the next after 430 AM. Buy a Hong Kong VIP card for $60 for 3 months and get 70% off your room on Monday and Tuesday. Room rate per night is single bed $26, double bed $30. You can have unlimited chicas visits from club HK. But beware when chica has a day off and comes to your room for 30 or 60 minutes you are required to buy a $30 or even $40 drink (wine). This is a new regulation and I had this happen. In the club, don't sit at a table, just have a drink, walk slowly around the club, watch the chicas and grope them from time to time for $1. Okay that's all.
I also think HK fees are ridiculous. $40 for their hotel room 25 minute bang bang is ridiculous. It is $40 for 40 minutes. And the girl gets a free drink and ficha ticket.
Tips to save money. Park your car at the trolley station parking for free (I repeat free) 24 hour limit. Good parking stations: E Street, H Street, Palomar St. Or Palm Ave. Take the trolley to the border San Ysidro station $2. 50 one way (senior 60+ $1. 25) link to San Diego transit https://www.sdmts.com/ Take a free limo to Hong Kong (I tip the driver $3). Back to the border the same. Limo to the border and trolley to the parked car. The last trolley from San Ysidro is at 1248 AM, the next after 430 AM. Buy a Hong Kong VIP card for $60 for 3 months and get 70% off your room on Monday and Tuesday. Room rate per night is single bed $26, double bed $30. You can have unlimited chicas visits from club HK. But beware when chica has a day off and comes to your room for 30 or 60 minutes you are required to buy a $30 or even $40 drink (wine). This is a new regulation and I had this happen. In the club, don't sit at a table, just have a drink, walk slowly around the club, watch the chicas and grope them from time to time for $1. Okay that's all.Excellent advice.
People who are frugal with money and would follow that advice would certainly be better off with street girls.
So I would add: get a street girl to your room at Cascadas, negotiate "todo (servico completo)" in PESOs, and save even more money.
AND once you find one or two favorite streetgirls you need not waste time hunting (save time too. Not just $$.
AmericanPi
07-17-23, 15:29
Tips to save money. Park your car at the trolley station parking for free (I repeat free) 24 hour limit. Good parking stations: E Street, H Street, Palomar St. Or Palm Ave. Take the trolley to the border San Ysidro station $2. 50 one way (senior 60+ $1. 25) link to San Diego transit https://www.sdmts.com/ Take a free limo to Hong Kong (I tip the driver $3). Back to the border the same. Limo to the border and trolley to the parked car. The last trolley from San Ysidro is at 1248 AM, the next after 430 AM. Buy a Hong Kong VIP card for $60 for 3 months and get 70% off your room on Monday and Tuesday. Room rate per night is single bed $26, double bed $30. You can have unlimited chicas visits from club HK. But beware when chica has a day off and comes to your room for 30 or 60 minutes you are required to buy a $30 or even $40 drink (wine). This is a new regulation and I had this happen. In the club, don't sit at a table, just have a drink, walk slowly around the club, watch the chicas and grope them from time to time for $1. Okay that's all.I just looked it up and parking is free for 24 hours, but they take it after that. In other words, it's not an option to pay to stay longer.
Honestly, border parking is so expensive that I would love a parking lot I can pay for that's just not at the border but it's cheaper. So I can take an Uber down.
Anyone know any safe monitored lots in close to border cities that aren't San Ysidro border parking?
Captain Solo
07-17-23, 18:02
Bar girls work their phones hard, setting up deals with guys. But You have something she wants badly. Perhaps she thinks she can dig big money out of you in an OTC session.
1. Sounds and smells fishy hehe. Perhaps she thinks you are in love with her fishy pussy.
2. HK recently enforced new policy for HK girls working OTC with a bucket for each half hour. HK security guys watch everyone coming and going. Some girls are refused entry on their days off. Many girls conspire with their BFs or work with meseros and hotel workers to maximize their profit. Be careful not to walk into a trap and get extorted.
3. If she wants to meet you OTC, meet her outside of La Zona then take her to another hotel without letting her know in advance, also hold her mobile phone in the hotel. Don't let her tell her BF where she is with you That way you are safe.
Met a HK chica in HK and took her arriba. Exchanged numbers. She's already aggressively texting me to meet up for arriba session outside the club. By aggressive, I mean excessively texting about whether I can come and meet up, updates, constant badgering of whether I can come for quick fling. She keeps saing she can just come and meet me outside the club and we can go to the hotel cascadas because she isn't working at whatever hour she wanted to meet. However, my gut tells me something is weird given her aggressiveness to meet up and to meet me outside her working time when we just met. Sure we had a pleasant time together, but it wasn't anything magical to warrant this type of neediness and comfort level of meeting me in her off hours.
My questions:
1) sound fishy?
2) can you even take an HK girl who is off shift arriba to the hotel cascadas? I imagine there's something hidden fee she's not telling me about.
And in response to the common posts now, I also think HK fees are ridiculous. $40 for their hotel room 25 minute bang bang is ridiculous. Chicago club is only $17.
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