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When they tell me to finish inside I'm assuming she's already taken care of herself so I'm rolling the dice to be honest. Other girls have been adamant about making sure I pull out. Since supposedly she does BB with a couple other people way wealthier than me and hasn't gotten pregnant it would lead you to believe she doesn't want to get pregnant, but again thats just me assuming. I had this other chick tell me she was worried about not getting her period recently but then told me a week later we were in the clear. She had me worried there for a second. Now I always pull out when I bang her. I have bought the morning after pill for a couple of girls in recent memory and watch them take it in front of me.
Yeah I was shocked Security were as cool about it as they were. I thought for sure they were going to ask me or her if I had slipped her something but they never did. I guess they could sense that I was being sincere about the situation.I understand your assumption but the reason I made the comment was due to the fact that she was very drunk and might not have realized that she let you finish in her. It's basically just Russian roulette rolling the dice like that. Trust me I'm not hear to preach to you just sharing experiences. I've had girls tell me to just pull out and I've had girls that don't say anything until after the fact and have to go get a morning after pill. The most stressful one was the one that never said anything and we would just cross are fingers each month.
Obviously I know nothing about this girl and her situation but you mention about her BBing other guys but if I remember that was her friend telling you that and even if they are BBing her they could be fixed or they pull out. These girls sometimes do not think right and maybe she is looking to get pregnant but only from the right guy. I knew a girl that wanted to get pregnant so she had a client get her pregnant but she didn't want him in her life just his seed. So I guess the guy didn't care about having a kid in the world that he would never see. Just something to think about maybe not with this girl but in general since you mentioned you had a small scare with some other girl.
On the bright side they have decriminalized abortions in all of Mexico, there's also a pill that a girl can get from a doctor that works for early pregnancies but I forget how long into it.
BTW On the report you mentioned about her being friends with your other girl and each of them talking shit on each other. It's very rare in my experience to find girls that are true friends, most say they are friends in the casual sense but will take every opportunity to talk shit on the other or try to steal their BFs or clients. The Zona is a very hard place to find true friendship.
RedBaron78
09-08-23, 02:02
My buddy and I went to HK Sept 3 - 6. We have been flying in to go to HK for 2-3 days every month for a couple of years now. There are sill a lot of sexy girls working but the HK talent level is slowly declining a bit. Still good and worth it, but talent is slowly declining. I assume a lot of it has to do with the dollar declining in value. Several girls are not making what they used to make. I know a lot of them are asking $120 or more but I never had anyone quote more than $100 this trip.
I also spoke to a girl that had just been in orientation that day. She came from Guadalajara with her friend. It was 12:30 AM and they had just started their first shift 30 minutes prior. I asked her what they discussed in orientation. She said they, "they told us to ask for wine and tequila when ordering drinks. " She said, "they told us to collect the money up front when we go to the room. " She said, "they told us to set a 30 minute timer on our phone when we go to the room. " I wasn't surprised to hear any of this but in all of my trips to Tijuana, rarely the girls do any of that.
I sat down with her and of course she ordered a wine. I told myself I would say no to any wine but I decided to buy it for her. She took a sip but didn't drink it. We went to my room and she asked if she could shower. I said sure. She got out of the shower and I pee'd. After I washed my hands I walked over to the bed she set her phone down. I asked, "setting your timer?" She said "I set it. " I asked to see her phone. She handed it to me there was 22 minutes and 18 seconds left. Haha.
I started laughing and said, "okay no sex! No money! It was great meeting you. Let's go back down to HK. ".
She begged me to stay and have sex. I laughed again and handed her robe to her. All the way down the elevator she was kissing my neck and begging to take her back up and she'd stay for an hour. I declined but as we were walking back into HK she hugged me and apologized. She admitted she messed up. Cool girl, actually.
I also noticed the club was far more relaxed about constantly asking if I wanted a drink. They seemed to be more relaxed about girls dancing for customers when you buy them drinks too. There's been a lot of times they have been strict about stopping the girls to make them get a private dance. This never happened on this trip but last month two different girls were stopped while dancing for me. I walked up to one girl I know as she was sitting at the back bar. I smiled at her, walked toward her, and she immediately took her top off, stood up, dropped her panties to her ankles, turned around, and bent over to grind on me as I walked up. I used to this things like this often but with all the changes the last year I rarely see this in the club any more. She was standing right out in the open so I was a little surprised. We were naughty, nobody said a word, and we went up to my room.
Overall, fun trip. A year or two ago my jaw would hit the ground every time I walked in there. Still, a. Lot of sexy girls and worth going. But after the last several trips, I'm certain the talent level is declining a bit.
Explorer8939
09-08-23, 02:56
It would be interesting to know how many mongers posting trip reports can speak Spanish. Most ladies in HK are not so good at English, so communication is not easy for them, unless the customer can speak Spanish.
Talent declines in the summer because a lot of girls head back to their hometowns on vacation. My main girl left in July and still hasn't came back. Doesn't look like she will until later on this month. My favorite girl at Chicago is also gone until later this month.
There's this girl at HK I used to bang on a regular basis a while back and haven't seen her working at the club in a couple months. Last week I saw her arriving to Rizo to visit a client. She said she's around but taking a break from work, didn't ask why.
I also spoke to a girl that had just been in orientation that day. She came from Guadalajara with her friend. It was 12:30 AM and they had just started their first shift 30 minutes prior. I asked her what they discussed in orientation. She said they, "they told us to ask for wine and tequila when ordering drinks. " She said, "they told us to collect the money up front when we go to the room. " She said, "they told us to set a 30 minute timer on our phone when we go to the room. " I wasn't surprised to hear any of this but in all of my trips to Tijuana, rarely the girls do any of that.
as standing right out in the open so I was a little surprised. We were naughty, nobody said a word, and we went up to my room.
Overall, fun trip. A year or two ago my jaw would hit the ground every time I walked in there. Still, a. Lot of sexy girls and worth going. But after the last several trips, I'm certain the talent level is declining a bit.I am waiting for the new HK management to sit inside our booth and bedroom while we are with a chica.
The new HK management sucks.
HK is now over-rated, and is only a shell of what it used to be. O.
My buddy and I went to HK Sept 3 - 6. We have been flying in to go to HK for 2-3 days every month for a couple of years now. There are sill a lot of sexy girls working but the HK talent level is slowly declining a bit. Still good and worth it, but talent is slowly declining. I assume a lot of it has to do with the dollar declining in value. Several girls are not making what they used to make. I know a lot of them are asking $120 or more but I never had anyone quote more than $100 this trip.
I also spoke to a girl that had just been in orientation that day. She came from Guadalajara with her friend. It was 12:30 AM and they had just started their first shift 30 minutes prior. I asked her what they discussed in orientation. She said they, "they told us to ask for wine and tequila when ordering drinks. " She said, "they told us to collect the money up front when we go to the room. " She said, "they told us to set a 30 minute timer on our phone when we go to the room. " I wasn't surprised to hear any of this but in all of my trips to Tijuana, rarely the girls do any of that.
I sat down with her and of course she ordered a wine. I told myself I would say no to any wine but I decided to buy it for her. She took a sip but didn't drink it. We went to my room and she asked if she could shower. I said sure. She got out of the shower and I pee'd. After I washed my hands I walked over to the bed she set her phone down. I asked, "setting your timer?" She said "I set it. " I asked to see her phone. She handed it to me there was 22 minutes and 18 seconds left. Haha.
I started laughing and said, "okay no sex! No money! It was great meeting you. Let's go back down to HK. ".
She begged me to stay and have sex. I laughed again and handed her robe to her. All the way down the elevator she was kissing my neck and begging to take her back up and she'd stay for an hour. I declined but as we were walking back into HK she hugged me and apologized. She admitted she messed up. Cool girl, actually.
I also noticed the club was far more relaxed about constantly asking if I wanted a drink. They seemed to be more relaxed about girls dancing for customers when you buy them drinks too. There's been a lot of times they have been strict about stopping the girls to make them get a private dance. This never happened on this trip but last month two different girls were stopped while dancing for me.Damn. You got balls. Practically no guy on here would of walked out of that room without sex. I can also get easily turned off. My only problem is that girl probably fucked up from being new. I think you wrote she was 30 minutes new to hk right. She probably didn't put any thought into shower time. In fact with these hotels banging st doors in 30 bminutes its hard to say yes to even allowing her to go to the bathroom. But the whole timer things a joke it makes the guys feel like the woman are being violated and can't wait to get out. 100% of every guy in hk can go bang tinder woman. I never see a guy and think he looks bad he must need hl for sex. Hk needs to remember that. Nobodys going to hk if they decide to stop paying for sex. Except me I guess I still go. But I'm on revulicion st anyway so its hard not to go.
I understand your assumption but the reason I made the comment was due to the fact that she was very drunk and might not have realized that she let you finish in her. It's basically just Russian roulette rolling the dice like that. Trust me I'm not hear to preach to you just sharing experiences. I've had girls tell me to just pull out and I've had girls that don't say anything until after the fact and have to go get a morning after pill. The most stressful one was the one that never said anything and we would just cross are fingers each month.
Obviously I know nothing about this girl and her situation but you mention about her BBing other guys but if I remember that was her friend telling you that and even if they are BBing her they could be fixed or they pull out. These girls sometimes do not think right and maybe she is looking to get pregnant but only from the right guy. I knew a girl that wanted to get pregnant so she had a client get her pregnant but she didn't want him in her life just his seed. So I guess the guy didn't care about having a kid in the world that he would never see. Just something to think about maybe not with this girl but in general since you mentioned you had a small scare with some other girl.
On the bright side they have decriminalized abortions in all of Mexico, there's also a pill that a girl can get from a doctor that works for early pregnancies but I forget how long into it.
BTW On the report you mentioned about her being friends with your other girl and each of them talking shit on each other. It's very rare in my experience to find girls that are true friends, most say they are friends in the casual sense but will take every opportunity to talk shit on the other or try to steal their BFs or clients. The Zona is a very hard place to find true friendship.
She was drunk but she still had her wits about her IMO. I wouldn't have banged her otherwise. You make a good point about whoever else she does bareback with and that they might be fixed or pulling out. That's why I asked her if I should pull out, since she said no I'm assuming she's on birth control, but you're right, it can be Russian roulette. I need to be more careful.
The girls at the club are definitely very competitive over clients. It's one of the reasons I said I try to avoid being with this one in particular when I'm by myself, to avoid any weirdness with my main girl. For that reason we have mostly kept things on a friendly vibe at least on my end but on this night she definitely set her sights on me and girls usually tend to get what they want when they put in the effort.
She was drunk but she still had her wits about her IMO. I wouldn't have banged her otherwise.Yes I wasn't trying to say you were taking advantage of a drunk girl. In your original post you had stated that she sent you a text and had asked if you used a rubber. So that is what I was referring to that if she wasn't 100 clear on the events that took place it might of been a good idea to mention that you also finished in her in case she needed to get a pill.
KetoAndKettle
09-09-23, 05:20
I am waiting for the new HK management to sit inside our booth and bedroom while we are with a chica.
The new HK management sucks.
HK is now over-rated, and is only a shell of what it used to be. O.I agree. Makes me want to just switch to escort sites and stay at the Ticuan, but not sure if those russian dudes still have that hotel taken over.
StubbornMule
09-09-23, 06:02
Visited HK in early August. Finally getting around to writing a trip report. Sessioned with three girls: Luce, who is 23 and from Sonora; Maybelline who is 31, half Colombian, and from Sinaloa; and Chernova, who is 23 and from Sonora. Paid $100 each, except Maybelline who wanted $110. All three sessions were decent. An interesting aspect is that Chernova told me that she is a law student with no kids; she was in HK to earn some extra cash. It was interesting to me since I often think of the girls as not well-educated and without many prospects for earning money.
I agree. Makes me want to just switch to escort sites and stay at the Ticuan, but not sure if those russian dudes still have that hotel taken over.Yes they are still here. New families arrive every week.
It would be interesting to know how many mongers posting trip reports can speak Spanish. Most ladies in HK are not so good at English, so communication is not easy for them, unless the customer can speak Spanish.<——-MexiDan speaks Mexican!
<-MexiDan speaks Mexican!Se habla "spanglish" jajajaja!
LuvMexicanas
09-09-23, 15:09
Visited HK in early August. Finally getting around to writing a trip report. Sessioned with three girls: Luce, who is 23 and from Sonora; Maybelline who is 31, half Colombian, and from Sinaloa; and Chernova, who is 23 and from Sonora. Paid $100 each, except Maybelline who wanted $110. All three sessions were decent. An interesting aspect is that Chernova told me that she is a law student with no kids; she was in HK to earn some extra cash. It was interesting to me since I often think of the girls as not well-educated and without many prospects for earning money.Don't believe most of what the girls tell you. Sure it could be true but I'll take my chances on it not being true.
BrotherMouzone
09-09-23, 15:19
An interesting aspect is that Chernova told me that she is a law student with no kids; she was in HK to earn some extra cash. It was interesting to me since I often think of the girls as not well-educated and without many prospects for earning money.Yes I used to think this as well and I suppose it is true for the most part, but some chicas in those clubs are actually very well educated. For example I know one chica at HK who's been to law school (though don't think she graduated) and another from Culiacan who has a business degree and is currently working on a second degree. She actually speaks and writes English extremely well, I was impressed when she first started texting me as I assumed I'd have to Google Translate like I do for most other chicas I text. Very few grammar errors also. I've heard of some chicas working in the clubs that work as teachers in other parts of Mexico.
Yes they are still here. New families arrive every week.The borders open for Russians. Inrwad an article the USA govt believes its a benefit to have as many Russians here as possible because it gives us info on Russia. I'm surprised anyone's left in Russia they make shit wages like Mexico.
Yes I wasn't trying to say you were taking advantage of a drunk girl. In your original post you had stated that she sent you a text and had asked if you used a rubber. So that is what I was referring to that if she wasn't 100 clear on the events that took place it might of been a good idea to mention that you also finished in her in case she needed to get a pill.
I'm pretty sure she was fully aware of what happened. In fact, I think the only reason she asked through text was to have written confirmation and probably show other girl's at the club or just to possibly have in the chamber to show my main girl if they ever get into a big fight. These girls are very vindictive. In the moment I did think twice about how to answer that question but ended up not caring. Who knows might come back to bite me in the ass somehow. I'll just tell my main girl it's her fault anyway for not returning to TJ when she said she would. She was supposed to be back last month but keeps extending her stay. I'm supposed to sit home and twiddle my thumbs? She knows I'm out there mongering. Shit happens.
The borders open for Russians. Inrwad an article the USA govt believes its a benefit to have as many Russians here as possible because it gives us info on Russia. I'm surprised anyone's left in Russia they make shit wages like Mexico.It is almost the sop. We make friends with dissidents. And one day they go back to their own country. And one day we look them up like an old girlfriend. Maybe they need help. Maybe we need something.
It would be interesting to know how many mongers posting trip reports can speak Spanish. Most ladies in HK are not so good at English, so communication is not easy for them, unless the customer can speak Spanish.It is easier to get GFE by speaking Spanish.
I know many people who do not speak any Spanish and get lots of fun in the Zona including anal and GFE.
Using the phone is good but I would suggest knowing Spanish for anything really important to you. One of my wingman craves latina anal and has that question memorized. Maybe the only full sentence he knows in Spanish.
Talent declines in the summer because a lot of girls head back to their hometowns on vacation. My main girl left in July and still hasn't came back. Doesn't look like she will until later on this month. My favorite girl at Chicago is also gone until later this month.
There's this girl at HK I used to bang on a regular basis a while back and haven't seen her working at the club in a couple months. Last week I saw her arriving to Rizo to visit a client. She said she's around but taking a break from work, didn't ask why.There is something bigger going on with the girls at HK. My guess is they finally starting to get as annoyed as the customers at HK tactics.
The odd thing about my last trip was how much better the talent was in Chicago. Been going to the zona for many years and never seen the talent levels even close much less arguably better in another club. The sexual performance of girls in other clubs has been better but the looks as well. That is new.
The girl I played with in Chicago did go back to Monterrey to spend the birthday weekend with her child but she came back in a week.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-10-23, 13:39
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.
Aviator400
09-10-23, 14:52
It would be interesting to know how many mongers posting trip reports can speak Spanish. Most ladies in HK are not so good at English, so communication is not easy for them, unless the customer can speak Spanish.I am learning by using Duolingo and DirtySpanish. Still not much past the basics, but a few phrases make the girls a little more comfortable. Even in the USA clubs with Latinas who are weak on English loosen up when I start a conversation in Spanish that includes the confession that I am just learning.
A wingman of mine who is fluent gets the best action at low prices and sometimes free. I am envious.
It is worth learning. I will never be fluent, but during my learning sessions, my mind flirts with the memories of the girls that I have flirted with.
Paying a girls rent upfront is like flushing your money down the drain.
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.If paying her rent means you can F her in her room at least 20 times in the month could be a bargain.
You said you are close to her. So why not make an arrangement of sex for rent? I would take the risk if I was close to her.
Theo TheMonger
09-11-23, 00:29
My experience:
Cascadas front desk staff do not ask for ID if you pay for room with cash.
If you pay with credit card they take a copy of your drivers license.Thank you Rambo1969 and Baxter Slade. I appreciate the info.
I hope to be there the third week of November if anyone is around.
Explorer8939
09-11-23, 02:38
It is easier to get GFE by speaking Spanish.
I know many people who do not speak any Spanish and get lots of fun in the Zona including anal and GFE.
Using the phone is good but I would suggest knowing Spanish for anything really important to you. One of my wingman craves latina anal and has that question memorized. Maybe the only full sentence he knows in Spanish.Yeah, I'm curious about these reports of long interactions with bargirls, how are these communicated?
My experience is that most bargirls are not that conversant in English, although I expect some reports on exceptions Real Soon Now.
BrotherMouzone
09-11-23, 03:06
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.But you're the same guy who within the past few months has posted a few times about wasting "thousands" on a chica you'd only been dating for a little bit, no? Given that it's not surprising that another chica would target you for rent money IMO. Not trying to get on your case but a lot of these chicas have a great sense of mongers they can milk $$$ out of. It's literally what they do for a living.
LuvMexicanas
09-11-23, 03:18
If paying her rent means you can F her in her room at least 20 times in the month could be a bargain.
You said you are close to her. So why not make an arrangement of sex for rent? I would take the risk if I was close to her.It's possible he doesn't want to fuck the same hooker 20 times let alone that many times during a given month.
But you're the same guy who within the past few months has posted a few times about wasting "thousands" on a chica you'd only been dating for a little bit, no? Given that it's not surprising that another chica would target you for rent money IMO. Not trying to get on your case but a lot of these chicas have a great sense of mongers they can milk $$$ out of. It's literally what they do for a living.Yah I know all about girls trying and some succeeding in "rinsing" me for money. I had this one gal named Sade that tried to convence me to be her boyfriend and In return I would have the pleasure of supporting her and her squatter loser boyfriend at her house. I said I am not opened minded when it comes to relationships and that I only wanted a gal that was single and unattached for my girl friend. She got all upset at me and said all the girls at HK had boyfriend, husbands, and girlfiends or all combinations of the three. I told her I am not an HK girl but a middle aged man that has some old fashinioned ideas, namely that my girlftiend only be in a relationship with me and me only. Damn millenials LOL.
Hi.
What time does the free shuttle from the border to HK start?
I know we can always call them for a ride. But starting some time in the afternoon there is almost always a shuttle parked by that small shack next to the border.
What time does the shack open and do those continuous rides begin?
Explorer8939
09-11-23, 08:32
If paying her rent means you can F her in her room at least 20 times in the month could be a bargain.
You said you are close to her. So why not make an arrangement of sex for rent? I would take the risk if I was close to her.Never pay upfront.
Baxter Slade
09-11-23, 15:37
Hi.
What time does the free shuttle from the border to HK start?
I know we can always call them for a ride. But starting some time in the afternoon there is almost always a shuttle parked by that small shack next to the border.
What time does the shack open and do those continuous rides begin?The HK shuttle says it starts at 2 p. M at the border. But you can always wait around at the road where they drop people off and catch a ride to HK. Leaving from HK the service is available 24 hrs.
MacNCheeze
09-11-23, 16:27
What time does the free shuttle from the border to HK start?I believe around 3 pm which is check in time.
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.You are generous with your money. You like saving girls from danger. If I was a working chica, I'the ask you to pay my rent too.
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.You must be an older guy (50 and up). I never get those questions. That's pretty bold of her or they see you all the time buying ass out there. That'll do it too.
Never pay upfront.That was your response to my post If paying her rent means you can F her in her room at least 20 times in the month could be a bargain.
You said you are close to her. So why not make an arrangement of sex for rent? I would take the risk if I was close to her.
Once I am close to a gal (already had many sessions with her, etc) . If we made a deal of Sex for Rent I would not hesitate to pay upfront.
That shows some trust on our part.
I never pay upfront for sex with a new gal. But a person I am familiar with ("close to" as he wrote) is a completely different story.
Of course I would only pay upfront the amount I would be ok to lose.
It's possible he doesn't want to fuck the same hooker 20 times let alone that many times during a given month.20 was an exaggeration. Even10 times a month for $600 rent is still good value for HK gal.
I F__ my streetgal Karumi 8 times during a typical 3 night trip.
So 10 times in a month would be awesome for me with her.
Was going to take the trolley to TJ yesterday but then it started raining and didn't want to take the chance of it coming down harder so decided to drive down instead. Had made plans to meet up with one of my recent HK girls. On the way there the girl that blacked out and had to be carried out of my room last week texted me and asked if I was in town so I told her I was actually heading down. She said she wasn't working but would come to my hotel if I wanted her to. But she wanted a little bit too much to come over so I was honest with her and told her that was more than I had in mind and she quickly slashed the price to exactly what I was thinking of giving her. I guess I can't blame her for trying or maybe she thought I wanted her more than I did. Since I already had plans with this other girl I told her maybe I would hit her up later depending on how my day went and she said ok. Checked into Rizo and headed over to the club. Met up with the girl I originally had plans with and had a couple drinks. Took the party back to my room and had great bb sex and took a shower afterwards. I guess they must have forgotten she was with me because we stayed in the room for an hour and twenty minutes. When they realized she was still with me some guy came over to knock all pissed off to let her know she went over her allotted time. She answered the door and told them nobody ever came to knock so she didn't know she had gone over. The guy told her to get dressed ASAP or she would get fined. He also said I could pay the fine for her as well but she said no and that she was leaving and quickly got dressed. She told me to meet her back at the club. Grabbed a booth and kept fooling around with her for another hour and a half. I'm pretty sure I only bought her 3 drinks during all that time. The meseros weren't being their usual annoying selves for a change.
Here's where it got tricky because during this time this girl started saying she was falling for me and asked me to be her BF and that supposedly she had never asked a guy to be her BF. But she has a live in boyfriend LOL. I said how are you going to be my GF but you have a damn BF you live with. But she said it's basically over and that the passion is long gone. I told her I don't like to complicate things with working girls by slapping labels on things and prefer to keep things the way they are. She was bummed but then eventually told me she was going to call me her BF anyways. Now during this time black out girl started sending me a bunch of texts saying she was close to revolucion and wanted to know if I was going to want her to come over. I tried to sneak in a few texts but this girl I was with started getting suspicious asking who I was texting but I kept avoiding the question and told her it was nobody. I texted black out girl that I was drinking with a girl but that we would be done soon. She told me to give her an exact ETA but I couldn't. I asked if she had ate yet since it was around dinner time and she said no and asked if I wanted to take her to dinner and I said sure, after I was done. But this fucking chick I was with wouldn't leave despite supposedly having to have left almost an hour ago, she was already off duty but didn't want to leave me. I excused myself to go to the bathroom and called this other girl I had waiting for me. I said probably 15 more minutes and told her this other chick wouldn't leave and she told me to just have a mesero remove her from my table. I laughed and said that would be really fucked up. I said give me 15 more minutes but if you have to go then go ahead, but I'm estimating 15-20 more minutes.
During all of this another HK chick started texting me asking what I was up to. This one was the one that blew me in the private booth a couple weeks ago. I told her I was drinking with another girl at the club and asked if she was around and had spotted me but she said no, that she was at home and was just curious about what I was up to. She then sent me a video of a full body shot of her naked in front of a mirror sucking on her finger. Unfortunately I couldn't save it because it was one of those view once messages that don't allow you to screen record. I was like holy shit she looked hot. I need to hook up with her again. I told her I would catch her next time she's around and she said ok cool. Went back to my table and the girl I was with stayed for another damn thirty minutes. Not that I minded since I was having a good time with her but this other girl waiting for me was weighing on my mind. When this chick finally left I texted the other girl back and told her this other one finally left but she said she was already practically home since I was stringing her along. I told her I wasn't meaning to and told her again what had happened. I said besides how was I supposed to know you were going to be down here in the area? You said you were at home since you didn't come in today. She then claimed she gave me enough of a heads up to meet and that I was lagging. I didn't want to keep going back and forth with her so I wrote back a sincere sounding apology just to shut her up and told her we could hook up next time and that seemed to work. Hung around the club a little longer but didn't see too much else to my liking. Passed by Chicago and it seemed ok but nothing that made me want to stay. Tropical had a couple of nice ones but by now just preferred to head back home and call it a night. Checked out and headed back to the border, only did a little under 20 minutes on the general lanes around 10 pm.
It's funny how sometimes you can't get one girl and the next day you have to many. You might have been better off telling the girl you were drinking with that your meeting another girl you planned to see for dinner, especially with her bringing up the whole wanting you to be a BF. Even after you told her you wanted it just to be a business relationship and she didn't get the hint. I understand you not wanting to seem like a jerk.
I do laugh at girls sending the pics via WhatsApp that you can only view once, I get them not wanting it to end up on the internet but if it's a girl you've know for awhile and you haven't done anything to break their trust what's the point.
As another observation I'd like to show as evidence, Nothing24 reports to all the negative reports on HK not being what it used to be, Nothing24 consistently has good reports in HK and with the girls. Now since I don't know him I could speculate on some things that give him an advantage to the rest of you. He speaks Spanish, I'd imagine he's younger than most that post on this board, I'd also imagine he is a decent looking guy. The final point is that they see him at least once a week in the club and they know he is there to spend money, not that he goes overboard but they know he is will to buy a few drinks and go to the room. These girls have very good memories and even girls that he doesn't talk to I'd guess they still know him just by consistently being in the club.
It's funny how sometimes you can't get one girl and the next day you have to many. You might have been better off telling the girl you were drinking with that your meeting another girl you planned to see for dinner, especially with her bringing up the whole wanting you to be a BF. Even after you told her you wanted it just to be a business relationship and she didn't get the hint. I understand you not wanting to seem like a jerk.
I do laugh at girls sending the pics via WhatsApp that you can only view once, I get them not wanting it to end up on the internet but if it's a girl you've know for awhile and you haven't done anything to break their trust what's the point.
As another observation I'd like to show as evidence, Nothing24 reports to all the negative reports on HK not being what it used to be, Nothing24 consistently has good reports in HK and with the girls. Now since I don't know him I could speculate on some things that give him an advantage to the rest of you. He speaks Spanish, I'd imagine he's younger than most that post on this board, I'd also imagine he is a decent looking guy. The final point is that they see him at least once a week in the club and they know he is there to spend money, not that he goes overboard but they know he is will to buy a few drinks and go to the room. These girls have very good memories and even girls that he doesn't talk to I'd guess they still know him just by consistently being in the club.
Yeah man it definitely felt like when it rains, it pours last night. If I would have told the girl I was drinking with I was thinking of meeting up with another girl for dinner she might have lost it. I forgot to mention she had suggested I drive her back to her house (but leave her a couple blocks down) since she was getting off around that time and she knew I had drove into TJ. If I didn't have this other girl waiting in the wings I might have even done it but I told her since we had been drinking it probably wasn't a wise decision to drive especially with California plates and she agreed once she thought about it, even though truthfully I felt perfectly fine to drive.
As for your other points, I'm far from a young stud. I consider myself pretty average looking. Don't consider myself handsome, but not ugly either. Girls have told me I'm cute but I think they're just being nice. I guess I'm now into what could be considered middle aged years, although I appear to be younger than what I am. When I talk to girls at the club I always get guesses of late 20's to early 30's. I think only one girl has been able to pinpoint exactly how old I am and she said she based her guess on our conversation and how I was treating her. I wouldn't consider my Spanish great but good enough to hold a conversation. There's definitely room for improvement and still bust out Google translate once in a while especially when I'm texting. But Spanish isn’t necessary to have a good time. I think we have all known of guys who speak little of it to nothing at all who still manage to receive great service.
I'm definitely not a big spender, but I am a consistent spender if that makes any sense. Everything within reason. The girl from yesterday was telling me of trying to find a way to spend the night with me in the near future and I made it clear to her if we did it, it would be because she wanted to and not because I was going to give her a TLN fee. She was seemingly cool with it, so we'll see, not that I'm holding my breath. That's how me and my main girl started spending nights together, because she had mentioned I was her only client that had never asked her to spend the night. I told her she could spend the night whenever she wanted but to just not expect a big payday and thankfully she was cool with it. Once these girls know that you're not a creep and a good guy who is truth worthy, you start to reap the benefits. Lastly, as I have mentioned numerous times and can't stress enough, study these girls' behavior. Watch their body language. See how they react to guys who tip them. If a girl interests you study her every move from afar instead of just walking right up to them and take it from there. The only thing is not everybody has the time to scope things like this, but if you do, there's no reason why you shouldn't be encountering more hits than misses. There is still plenty of good times to be had at the clubs. You just have to develop good enough instincts in choosing which girls to go after and pick up on the behavior that girls who provide GFE services tend to display that the average guy at the club doesn't pick up on because they're too busy focusing on physical traits instead of the behavioral.
LuvMexicanas
09-13-23, 06:33
20 was an exaggeration. Even10 times a month for $600 rent is still good value for HK gal.
I F__ my streetgal Karumi 8 times during a typical 3 night trip.
So 10 times in a month would be awesome for me with her.Yeah, I get what you're saying and if it works for you that's awesome. I'm just wired a little differently. Once I've fucked a chica, my excitement level decreases each subsequent fuck. After about 4-5 fucks (even if she's a good lay), I'm pretty much ready to move on except for the rare exception.
Yeah man it definitely felt like when it rains, it pours last night. If I would have told the girl I was drinking with I was thinking of meeting up with another girl for dinner she might have lost it. I forgot to mention she had suggested I drive her back to her house (but leave her a couple blocks down) since she was getting off around that time and she knew I had drove into TJ. If I didn't have this other girl waiting in the wings I might have even done it but I told her since we had been drinking it probably wasn't a wise decision to drive especially with California plates and she agreed once she thought about it, even though truthfully I felt perfectly fine to drive.
As for your other points, I'm far from a young stud. I consider myself pretty average looking. Don't consider myself handsome, but not ugly either. Girls have told me I'm cute but I think they're just being nice. I guess I'm now into what could be considered middle aged years, although I appear to be younger than what I am. When I talk to girls at the club I always get guesses of late 20's to early 30's. I think only one girl has been able to pinpoint exactly how old I am and she said she based her guess on our conversation and how I was treating her. I wouldn't consider my Spanish great but good enough to hold a conversation. There's definitely room for improvement and still bust out Google translate once in a while especially when I'm texting. But Spanish isnt necessary to have a good time. I think we have all known of guys who speak little of it to nothing at all who still manage to receive great service.
I'm definitely not a big spender, but I am a consistent spender if that makes any sense. Everything within reason. The girl from yesterday was telling me of trying to find a way to spend the night with me in the near future and I made it clear to her if we did it, it would be because she wanted to and not because I was going to give her a TLN fee. She was seemingly cool with it, so we'll see, not that I'm holding my breath. That's how me and my main girl started spending nights together, because she had mentioned I was her only client that had never asked her to spend the night. I told her she could spend the night whenever she wanted but to just not expect a big payday and thankfully she was cool with it. Once these girls know that you're not a creep and a good guy who is truth worthy, you start to reap the benefits. Lastly, as I have mentioned numerous times and can't stress enough, study these girls' behavior. Watch their body language. See how they react to guys who tip them. If a girl interests you study her every move from afar instead of just walking right up to them and take it from there. The only thing is not everybody has the time to scope things like this, but if you do, there's no reason why you shouldn't be encountering more hits than misses. There is still plenty of good times to be had at the clubs. You just have to develop good enough instincts in choosing which girls to go after and pick up on the behavior that girls who provide GFE services tend to display that the average guy at the club doesn't pick up on because they're too busy focusing on physical traits instead of the behavioral.I definitely am more apprehensive to drive at night out of the Zona when having a few drinks. That's why I just make a night of it and wait till between 8 and 10 to leave since cops are really present. Just like the US all the cops need to bug you is just smelling the booze on your breath. The only time I was ever pulled over in the Zona it was around 8 am and they said they smelled beer on mt breath. So I told them I was making out with a girl in the bar so it was just probably her beer smell that was passed onto me. The cops were very confused by this statement and really didn't know what to say, then they had another call and just left without really saying anything to me that I remember.
Well I think you know what I mean when I say your younger and better looking than the normal guy that is in HK. You definitely don have to be Brad Pitt to have success but being under 40 and being in decent shape helps. I did have an old friend that was in his 60's and only liked them very young who was very successful but he would only go to the smaller bars and he was older yet took care of himself and was a generous guy. The Spanish is more just being able to hold a conversation and not using Google to talk to them and especially not asking them the same dumb questions that everyone else asks. It's not necessary I agree but it is a huge help.
I agree with your spending statement, that is what I was trying to say, the girls see you consistently in the bar and spending money. The girls know they can sit and have a few drinks with you and your going to take them to the room so your not wasting their time. Definitely agree with girls spending time with you because they want to but not to expect a big pay out. I was very cheap when I lived in Tijuana just because I didn't have much, but I consistently had girls wanting to come back to my place and money was never involved. I was just someone they felt comfortable with.
Is funny how we both seem to enjoy just watching the girls and how they act to decide who the best option is, I definitely stay away from girls that come up to me yet I do sometimes like the challenge of seeing a girl that I like the looks of who seems cold and bringing her out of her shell. The only difference with me from maybe yourself it seems is that no matter how GFE or crazy a girl might be if I'm not physically attracted to her I won't bother with them. I don't mean your going with ugly girls but since I don't know your girls you might not be a picky as me.
I definitely am more apprehensive to drive at night out of the Zona when having a few drinks. That's why I just make a night of it and wait till between 8 and 10 to leave since cops are really present. Just like the US all the cops need to bug you is just smelling the booze on your breath. The only time I was ever pulled over in the Zona it was around 8 am and they said they smelled beer on mt breath. So I told them I was making out with a girl in the bar so it was just probably her beer smell that was passed onto me. The cops were very confused by this statement and really didn't know what to say, then they had another call and just left without really saying anything to me that I remember.
Well I think you know what I mean when I say your younger and better looking than the normal guy that is in HK. You definitely don have to be Brad Pitt to have success but being under 40 and being in decent shape helps. I did have an old friend that was in his 60's and only liked them very young who was very successful but he would only go to the smaller bars and he was older yet took care of himself and was a generous guy. The Spanish is more just being able to hold a conversation and not using Google to talk to them and especially not asking them the same dumb questions that everyone else asks. It's not necessary I agree but it is a huge help.
I agree with your spending statement, that is what I was trying to say, the girls see you consistently in the bar and spending money. The girls know they can sit and have a few drinks with you and your going to take them to the room so your not wasting their time. Definitely agree with girls spending time with you because they want to but not to expect a big pay out. I was very cheap when I lived in Tijuana just because I didn't have much, but I consistently had girls wanting to come back to my place and money was never involved. I was just someone they felt comfortable with.
Is funny how we both seem to enjoy just watching the girls and how they act to decide who the best option is, I definitely stay away from girls that come up to me yet I do sometimes like the challenge of seeing a girl that I like the looks of who seems cold and bringing her out of her shell. The only difference with me from maybe yourself it seems is that no matter how GFE or crazy a girl might be if I'm not physically attracted to her I won't bother with them. I don't mean your going with ugly girls but since I don't know your girls you might not be a picky as me.
That was actually a clever response as to why your breath may have smelled of alcohol. Might have to use it one day haha.
If a girl approaches me first I will let them give me their pitch for the most part before I shoo them away. One of the recent girls I was able to go in bare with was a girl that came up to me and just when I was going to send her on her way I asked if she would do BBBJ since I didn't really care either way and was moreso curious as to how she would answer and surprisingly she said yes as long as I was clean. Once we got things going in the room and got down to intercourse she was fine with me not using a rubber for that as well. I have gone on to repeat with her a couple times.
With the exception of one girl I met at Adelitas a little over a year ago I also only hook up with girls most guys would consider hot or that I'm personally attracted to. This girl at Adelitas gave me the hard sell, promised she was an anything goes type girl and not to pay her until after our session was over so she could prove she wasn't bullshitting me and she damn sure wasn't. It's not that she was necessarily ugly or anything, just really plain looking. But her attitude turned me on and she got me curious enough to take her arriba and had zero regrets. I even would have thrown her in my rotation but unfortunately never saw her again after that one time. Her WhatsApp number stopped working and everything. After finding out about all the shit that was allegedly going on behind the scenes at Adelitas it made me wonder if she was one of the girls that was forced to work there. She wasn't one of the supposedly underaged ones though, she was clearly in her early to mid twenties.
Explorer8939
09-13-23, 23:23
That was your response to my post If paying her rent means you can F her in her room at least 20 times in the month could be a bargain.
You said you are close to her. So why not make an arrangement of sex for rent? I would take the risk if I was close to her.
Once I am close to a gal (already had many sessions with her, etc) . If we made a deal of Sex for Rent I would not hesitate to pay upfront.
That shows some trust on our part.
I never pay upfront for sex with a new gal. But a person I am familiar with ("close to" as he wrote) is a completely different story.
Of course I would only pay upfront the amount I would be ok to lose."Never pay upfront" is for a reason.
Even if she did perform, with no further payment expected, performance will decline. Remember, they fuck for money, fucking for payment of a debt is not going to be good.
That was actually a clever response as to why your breath may have smelled of alcohol. Might have to use it one day haha.
If a girl approaches me first I will let them give me their pitch for the most part before I shoo them away. One of the recent girls I was able to go in bare with was a girl that came up to me and just when I was going to send her on her way I asked if she would do BBBJ since I didn't really care either way and was moreso curious as to how she would answer and surprisingly she said yes as long as I was clean. Once we got things going in the room and got down to intercourse she was fine with me not using a rubber for that as well. I have gone on to repeat with her a couple times.
With the exception of one girl I met at Adelitas a little over a year ago I also only hook up with girls most guys would consider hot or that I'm personally attracted to. This girl at Adelitas gave me the hard sell, promised she was an anything goes type girl and not to pay her until after our session was over so she could prove she wasn't bullshitting me and she damn sure wasn't. It's not that she was necessarily ugly or anything, just really plain looking. But her attitude turned me on and she got me curious enough to take her arriba and had zero regrets. I even would have thrown her in my rotation but unfortunately never saw her again after that one time. Her WhatsApp number stopped working and everything. After finding out about all the shit that was allegedly going on behind the scenes at Adelitas it made me wonder if she was one of the girls that was forced to work there. She wasn't one of the supposedly underaged ones though, she was clearly in her early to mid twenties.Yeah I'm surprised I was able to come up with that line so fast. By all means feel free to use it but I think I got lucky that they were younger cops one guy and one lady and like I said they seemed to get another call so the just left without telling me anything. These days they seem to be stricter with the DUI drivers and might even have breath testers in the car. I remember a waiter I know getting pulled over and had to pay $100. I actually forget if it was for drinking or some other reason.
I still don't believe that whole thing with AB, I've been pretty close to girls that work there and never heard of anything, now this might be a more recent thing that was going on but I still knew a few girls that definitely did what they wanted. The girl you knew could of left for many reasons. Lots of girls just do it to get some quick cash and walk away. With the border being what it is she might of taken the opportunity to cross.
Yeah, I get what you're saying and if it works for you that's awesome. I'm just wired a little differently. Once I've fucked a chica, my excitement level decreases each subsequent fuck. After about 4-5 fucks (even if she's a good lay), I'm pretty much ready to move on except for the rare exception.Sounds like my ex GF. She got bored of me after 3 weeks and we just argued for 4 yrs about her sex drive. Sometimes she would talk to me about my friend Mike whose handsome while ibwas fucking her. I know she was doing that to get into the sex. Of course after we broke up she's banging guys left right. But yeah many people get bored of sex with same person. I honestly do not know how any good looking guy, never mind famous good looking guy gets married. I'm not putting mybsex life on hold because my wife's sex drive went away. The hell with that shit.
I've been to Hong Kong for the third or fourth Tuesday night in a row and the big guy isn't there. He always had a table near the main stage, surrounded by chicas on a table full of drinks and snacks. On the floor on the table there was an incredible amount of dollar bills which he was throwing. When the Tijuana police installed a camera aimed precisely at this table, the big guy mysteriously disappeared. What happened?
They are building an elevator connecting the Hong Kong club with the Cascadas hotel and to enter the hotel you will not have to go outside to the street with the chica, you will just take the elevator straight from the Hong Kong club to the floors of the Cascadas hotel.
I've been to Hong Kong for the third or fourth Tuesday night in a row and the big guy isn't there. He always had a table near the main stage, surrounded by chicas on a table full of drinks and snacks. On the floor on the table there was an incredible amount of dollar bills which he was throwing. When the Tijuana police installed a camera aimed precisely at this table, the big guy mysteriously disappeared. What happened?Police being able to watch us in hk, its not really good thing. Sure most of us it don't matter. But people with $ always have opponents trying to topple them. Its 1 thibg to have workers or customers gathering intel on your whereabouts. Its another thing to have police sitting there in their office watching you, your stacks of 30,000 in singles,. People don't know how rough Tijuana is. The minimum amount needed to get yourself killed is 5 dollars. So someone will kill you for 5 dollars or more. I got surrounded in street in front of street girls by 6 people some were woman, all in nice clothes. All under 30 yo. And they all attacked me at once for 5 dollars each as I had 30 bucks on me. They choked me out and then dropped me head 1st on cement or kicked me in head after lowering crushing my skull in. I probably could have died very easily. So yeah I would not be dropping 20 k in singles in camera either inside hk.
It's funny how sometimes you can't get one girl and the next day you have to many. You might have been better off telling the girl you were drinking with that your meeting another girl you planned to see for dinner, especially with her bringing up the whole wanting you to be a BF. Even after you told her you wanted it just to be a business relationship and she didn't get the hint. I understand you not wanting to seem like a jerk.
I do laugh at girls sending the pics via WhatsApp that you can only view once, I get them not wanting it to end up on the internet but if it's a girl you've know for awhile and you haven't done anything to break their trust what's the point.
As another observation I'd like to show as evidence, Nothing24 reports to all the negative reports on HK not being what it used to be, Nothing24 consistently has good reports in HK and with the girls. Now since I don't know him I could speculate on some things that give him an advantage to the rest of you. He speaks Spanish, I'd imagine he's younger than most that post on this board, I'd also imagine he is a decent looking guy. The final point is that they see him at least once a week in the club and they know he is there to spend money, not that he goes overboard but they know he is will to buy a few drinks and go to the room. These girls have very good memories and even girls that he doesn't talk to I'd guess they still know him just by consistently being in the club.Bingo! Consistency is key. Show face, spend money. Once a week is all it takes.
ABAJoeSmith123
09-15-23, 02:35
They are building an elevator connecting the Hong Kong club with the Cascadas hotel and to enter the hotel you will not have to go outside to the street with the chica, you will just take the elevator straight from the Hong Kong club to the floors of the Cascadas hotel.That would be amazing. Honestly the main irritating thing about going arriba is having to go outside with crowds of people looking at you as you walk out the club with a chica and back up the stairs to the hotel. Ionno about the rest of you but I prefer privacy and not everyone knowing who and when I'm going arriba.
Went to HK after a long time on labour day Monday. I usually take girls for 1 HR because 30 mins is not enough for me.
They charged me $80 for 1 HR?? Was I scammed, I don't think so. I heard they have a 40 mins option now, how much for that?
Is there a discount with vip card? How much to book overnite on weekdays?
Thanks!
I've been to Hong Kong for the third or fourth Tuesday night in a row and the big guy isn't there. He always had a table near the main stage, surrounded by chicas on a table full of drinks and snacks. On the floor on the table there was an incredible amount of dollar bills which he was throwing. When the Tijuana police installed a camera aimed precisely at this table, the big guy mysteriously disappeared. What happened?I didn't see him when I visited last month nor last wed / Thur. Night.
Yeah, I get what you're saying and if it works for you that's awesome. I'm just wired a little differently. Once I've fucked a chica, my excitement level decreases each subsequent fuck. After about 4-5 fucks (even if she's a good lay), I'm pretty much ready to move on except for the rare exception.I was there Sept 13-15.
Once again the only gal in my room was Karumi.
It; s great to know what positions work. We have a portfolio of moves including foreplay stuff and it's great not having to discover that with each new gal. Sometimes two people fit like a glove and it's very very comfortable -it took me a couple of years with Tijuana gals before I realized she works best for me.
I also taught her how to whack my face with her butt. A facial with her butt. I don't want to take the time to train other gals.
Went to HK after a long time on labour day Monday. I usually take girls for 1 HR because 30 mins is not enough for me.
They charged me $80 for 1 HR?? Was I scammed, I don't think so. I heard they have a 40 mins option now, how much for that?
Is there a discount with vip card? How much to book overnite on weekdays?
Thanks!With VIP card you pay 20% less (70% Mon. Tues.) - so better to get a room. And you can relax in room after session, etc.
MacNCheeze
09-16-23, 15:35
They charged me $80 for 1 HR?? Was I scammed, I don't think so. I heard they have a 40 mins option now, how much for that?
Is there a discount with vip card? How much to book overnite on weekdays?Room rates went up and $40 is the lowest option now, so not surprised they charged you $80. When they first increased it supposedly you got 40 minutes, but I've heard people say they got the knock at 30 minutes anyways.
VIP card discount is for 70% off Mon and Tues nights, or 20% off other nights.
They are building an elevator connecting the Hong Kong club with the Cascadas hotel and to enter the hotel you will not have to go outside to the street with the chica, you will just take the elevator straight from the Hong Kong club to the floors of the Cascadas hotel.Well not sure if someone working in HK told you this is what it's going to be used for or are you assuming. From the many years of being on different Tijuana boards I've always heard the reason you have to go outside is that is the law. Not sure if it's just a Tijuana law or be. See. It seems to make sense and I know AB and HK well at least the Chavelas part have stairs going to the hotel so there is actually no reason to go outside except to obey the law.
I would imagine that new elevator will be used more for the staff especially waiters that bring drinks to the hotel rooms. We shall see.
Well not sure if someone working in HK told you this is what it's going to be used for or are you assuming. From the many years of being on different Tijuana boards I've always heard the reason you have to go outside is that is the law. Not sure if it's just a Tijuana law or be. See. It seems to make sense and I know AB and HK well at least the Chavelas part have stairs going to the hotel so there is actually no reason to go outside except to obey the law.
I would imagine that new elevator will be used more for the staff especially waiters that bring drinks to the hotel rooms. We shall see.That is what I have read ma why times. That brothels are illegal in Mexico. Paying for sex is not illegal though nor charging for sex if the woman charges. So what you have is bars where woman hang out, like Hong Kong. And hotels they use. But there's no brothel. Its all separate. There's nobody telling the woman what to do or anything like that. Can't imagine what that hotel would be like if they were allowed to be involved in prostitution.
BrotherMouzone
09-16-23, 19:40
Here now at HK can have been here for a couple days. Some observations:
-First time being in Tijuana for Independence Day weekend. Didn't know how crazy it gets for Independence Day. Was heading back to my hotel.
(via taxi ruta) from the Agua Caliente area last night and everyone had Mexican flags on their cars, honking their horns, driving crazy. Basically a long parade of cars and taxi de rutas all headed to Zona Centro. Some even had beers in their hand, raising their beers to other drivers while driving LOL. I guess the policia don't care on this holiday? Traffic overall was insane. Got out of the taxi de ruta I was in and decided to walk the remaining mile or so back to Hong Kong (due to backed up traffic) but Revolucion was blocked off for a free concert where there was a MASSIVE line (literally 7-8 blocks, maybe even way longer than that) of people waiting to fille into Revolucion. It was almost like every single person in Tijuana was in Zona Centro last night LOL. But it was cool, had to walk back to Zona Norte via Constitucion since Revolucion was blocked off.
-There is loud construction in Cascadas right now, I'm guessing related to the new elevator I've seen discussed on these boards. I'm on the 6th floor and the construction work has been ongoing (and very loud) all day. 90% of people would've probably asked for a room change due to the noise but I sleep through everything so I'm not worried about it. They don't work at night anyway.
-Saw Luke Powell in a booth at the Chicago Club Friday night. I think he's here for the whole weekend.
Well not sure if someone working in HK told you this is what it's going to be used for or are you assuming. From the many years of being on different Tijuana boards I've always heard the reason you have to go outside is that is the law. Not sure if it's just a Tijuana law or be. See. It seems to make sense and I know AB and HK well at least the Chavelas part have stairs going to the hotel so there is actually no reason to go outside except to obey the law.
I would imagine that new elevator will be used more for the staff especially waiters that bring drinks to the hotel rooms. We shall see.I recall being able to go to second floor of HK and then was able to enter hotel through side entrance without ever going outside. I think I was on third floor near front entrance, but been so long ago.
With VIP card you pay 20% less (70% Mon. Tues.) - so better to get a room. And you can relax in room after session, etc.Does the HK VIP card work for rooms at Rizo. Tropical? Would you get a discount there or do they have their own VIP card?
Thanks!
Captain Solo
09-17-23, 16:12
Will work in Rizo, but not the reverse.
At least for now.
I recall being able to go to second floor of HK and then was able to enter hotel through side entrance without ever going outside. I think I was on third floor near front entrance, but been so long ago.Thanks KB. I would be surprised if HK didn't have a entrance as well put I don't like to speculate and I've only seen and used what I posted.
Does the HK VIP card work for rooms at Rizo. Tropical? Would you get a discount there or do they have their own VIP card?
Thanks!HK can be used at Rizo but Tropical can't be usd at Cascadas. They advertise it on X / Twitter so I've seen it many times.
Here now at HK can have been here for a couple days. Some observations:
-First time being in Tijuana for Independence Day weekend. Didn't know how crazy it gets for Independence Day. Was heading back to my hotel.
(via taxi ruta) from the Agua Caliente area last night and everyone had Mexican flags on their cars, honking their horns, driving crazy. Basically a long parade of cars and taxi de rutas all headed to Zona Centro. Some even had beers in their hand, raising their beers to other drivers while driving LOL. I guess the policia don't care on this holiday? Traffic overall was insane. Got out of the taxi de ruta I was in and decided to walk the remaining mile or so back to Hong Kong (due to backed up traffic) but Revolucion was blocked off for a free concert where there was a MASSIVE line (literally 7-8 blocks, maybe even way longer than that) of people waiting to fille into Revolucion. It was almost like every single person in Tijuana was in Zona Centro last night LOL. But it was cool, had to walk back to Zona Norte via Constitucion since Revolucion was blocked off.Well that would be an awkward surprise if you didn't know what was going on. Happy you got to enjoy some of it. I'd recommend to anyone that plans to visit Tijuana or anywhere in Mexico if you can come and experience their Independence Day you won't regret it.
In the past the cops are very relaxed on the drinking on this day but they are getting a little stricter. I read in the news that they set up multiple DUI check points in the city which I don't remember them doing in the past. The party on Revolution was said to draw 25 thousand people, besides the concert it was also where the mayor of the city gave her Grito speech which is a good thing to experience compared to how the US celebrates its Independence Day. In the past HK would do a Grito speech with employees dressed like famous Mexicans from the past and do it out overlooking the street. Then they would do some fireworks, they would even continue lighting firecrackers off in the alley but not sure if they did that on Friday night. The city in general has really tried to get rid of the fireworks. This year they didn't do any because of the stress it brings to animals and the environment. To much of US thinking going on in Mexico to.
MacNCheeze
09-17-23, 17:50
Does the HK VIP card work for rooms at Rizo. Tropical? Would you get a discount there or do they have their own VIP card?HK VIP works at both Cascadas and Rizo. Tropical has a cheaper VIP card option but only works at Rizo.
HK VIP works at both Cascadas and Rizo. Tropical has a cheaper VIP card option but only works at Rizo.The problem is I don't necessarily get HK girl, and more often than not it's usually Chicago girl I end up with.
So booking a overnite doesn't make sense if I don't take a HK girl.
Does the HK VIP card have discounts for 30 mins /1 HR as well.
Thanks!
Well not sure if someone working in HK told you this is what it's going to be used for or are you assuming. From the many years of being on different Tijuana boards I've always heard the reason you have to go outside is that is the law. Not sure if it's just a Tijuana law or be. See. It seems to make sense and I know AB and HK well at least the Chavelas part have stairs going to the hotel so there is actually no reason to go outside except to obey the law.
I would imagine that new elevator will be used more for the staff especially waiters that bring drinks to the hotel rooms. We shall see.Yes, I asked the guys who work in Cascadas hotel and they replied that it was a construction of an elevator from the Hong Kong club straight to the floors of the Cascadas hotel. There is construction work on every floor. But if you remember the times of Covid, chicas worked in the Cascadas hotel on the sixth or seventh floor because the Hong Kong club was closed. Maybe it was illegal under Mexican law, I don't know. We'll see soon what this elevator is for.
Yes, I asked the guys who work in Cascadas hotel and they replied that it was a construction of an elevator from the Hong Kong club straight to the floors of the Cascadas hotel. There is construction work on every floor. But if you remember the times of Covid, chicas worked in the Cascadas hotel on the sixth or seventh floor because the Hong Kong club was closed. Maybe it was illegal under Mexican law, I don't know. We'll see soon what this elevator is for.I want to thank you for the response and as I suspected the employee didn't tell you exactly what it was giving no to be used for you just assume it was for clients to take the girls without having to go outside. I don't pretend to know the reason for the elevator anymore then you but looking at the way things have been many things keep me from believing it's to make it easier to take girls directly to the hotel.
I would like the idea of taking the girl directly to your room but I wonder why HK hasn't done this before, I still would bet money that it's more for those that have rooms for the night to make it easier to come and go in the club. Like many other hotels you would have to have a room key in order to use the elevator and also like I mentioned making it easier for waiters to bring drinks to the room especially when the girls stay past the allotted time and the customer decides to buy more drinks for the girl to stay. Now depending on the law if you have a room maybe the girl could come up with you but if the law states that she has to go outside the bar and into the hotel you could just go to the room and wait if you didn't want to accompany her.
In regards to the way they had things set up during COVID they were breaking the law in regards to running a bar basically in the hotel but they only broke the rules that the government put in place due to a special public health order. Again depending how the law is written by having the club being run in the actual hotel the girls could go directly to the room because technically the weren't working in the bar. Like I said it depends on how the law is written and I'm sure HK had lawyers look at it to find loop holes in order to be somewhat legal. Since neither one of us are experts or lawyers on Mexican laws we shall never really know.
I'm sure now that this is being talked about some of the guys that are often in HK will ask around and see what the general consensus is on what it will be used for. Hopefully I can make it down soon to find out personally.
Explorer8939
09-18-23, 07:30
The problem is I don't necessarily get HK girl, and more often than not it's usually Chicago girl I end up with.
So booking a overnite doesn't make sense if I don't take a HK girl.
Does the HK VIP card have discounts for 30 mins /1 HR as well.
Thanks!No.
The lady's services are not covered.
MacNCheeze
09-18-23, 15:45
Does the HK VIP card have discounts for 30 mins /1 HR as well.VIP doesn't give any discounted rate on the short term rooms. They used to advertise an extra 10 minutes or something with VIP card, but I think people said they knocked at 30 anyways.
LeeroyJenkins
09-18-23, 16:19
Yeah, I get what you're saying and if it works for you that's awesome. I'm just wired a little differently. Once I've fucked a chica, my excitement level decreases each subsequent fuck. After about 4-5 fucks (even if she's a good lay), I'm pretty much ready to move on except for the rare exception.Dude yes me too I don't understand why but I guess its variety I need all the time.
I recall being able to go to second floor of HK and then was able to enter hotel through side entrance without ever going outside. I think I was on third floor near front entrance, but been so long ago.YES. See photo. You can go from front side of HK club 2nd floor to Cascadas's HK VIP lounge without going outside. After 10 pm it is used for smoking and is packed - - lots of windows to vent air.
In day time that VIP lounge can be accessed from Cascadas.
JoeSmith068
09-22-23, 18:06
I plan to head down tonight and stay for the night and hit up HK and Tropical. Getting my teeth bleached in the afternoon on Sat then heading back across to San Diego.
Litmus Smut
09-23-23, 19:26
What are the going rates in Tijuana at the different clubs?
I will be there soon and have only sessioned at HK, and a couple of street girls over a couple of visits. Last time at HK, I feel I paid a bit too much with the $120 and a $30 room. I came into the scene when it was $80 + $20.
HK = girl + room.
Tropical = girl + room.
Chicago = girl + room.
A heads up would be helpful.
LeeroyJenkins
09-23-23, 19:59
What are the going rates in Tijuana at the different clubs?
I will be there soon and have only sessioned at HK, and a couple of street girls over a couple of visits. Last time at HK, I feel I paid a bit too much with the $120 and a $30 room. I came into the scene when it was $80 + $20.
HK = girl + room.
Tropical = girl + room.
Chicago = girl + room.
A heads up would be helpful.Not sure about Chicago and tropical but for.
HK. If you want one of the hotter women they asking $130-150, seems they are asking $120 overall regardless. I still pull down $100 but they aint the hottest in the club bro so it seems to be a tiered system now as apposed to when it was $80 & $20. A room is now $40 for everyone.
VIP doesn't give any discounted rate on the short term rooms. This is incorrect. I just used my card last night. I pay for 40 minutes and my VIP card gave me an hour. It is a least 15 minutes extra with the card.
What are the going rates in Tijuana at the different clubs?
I will be there soon and have only sessioned at HK, and a couple of street girls over a couple of visits. Last time at HK, I feel I paid a bit too much with the $120 and a $30 room. I came into the scene when it was $80 + $20.
HK = girl + room.
Tropical = girl + room.
Chicago = girl + room.
A heads up would be helpful.The prices have gone up. The rooms are $40. Girls who work in other bars do not consider themselves discounts. So they want hk prices but from what I read on here a guess is Chicago girls probably make 10 dollars less per sex than hk girls. Thats just a rough estimate of guys saying they found a 80 dollar girl at Chicago at times. Well this is counting girls banging guys who care about their $$. For instance the big high rollers are often in hk, these guys are gona drop $$ for extra time, for anal, for BBBJ, or just to impress her. So if you acount all the girls, and don't count overnight guests, I would guess the hk girls, if you count the baller dudes, hk girls get on avg about 30 to 40 more than Chicago girls per guy.
A HK chica I'm close with asked me to give her $600 to pay her rent. WTF? You're a working adult. Pay you own damn rent. The nerve and expectations of these girls. 600 is a lot of money to just throw away. WTF would I just give my hard earned money to pay your expenses, especially rent.Summary is people will pay for all kinds of things that others will not.
Details.
Girls ask because guys say yes. Never understood why a person will just give a girl money with no physical interaction but it happens. Cam girls and OF girls make a LOT of money. Maybe we are lucky to live in So Cal and have so many other options. Maybe these people paying money do not know of any options. I know many moons ago I still did not think we could touch the dancer at a strip club. Oh young dumb and full of cum.
Crazy things I have seen.
Know a guy who will pay 600 for anal and MSOG in the Zona. I think it is crazy but he thinks it is worth it. I do my best to help him understand the market but some people slow learners.
Know another guy who will drop $500-600 for a few hours with a USA stripper who will come to a place of his choosing. Not even that hot of strippers sometimes imo. He thinks it is good deal. I have talked him into lower prices because I know these girls will do it for 200 but he still hits the higher price sometimes.
I personally will pay hundreds of dollars but that is on condition of the girl staying with me multiple days and multiple times of sex. There is a filter process first to ensure I can trust her while I sleep and we have good chemistry. Have had some great times in Mexico City, Monterrey and other cities in Mexico.
What do I get for 600? Over a week of driving all over multiple cities having much fun every day. I think it is worth it. If you are lucky you will find a smart mexican loca who is a freak in bed while able to maintain a cool temper and get through some of the issues that come up while going through mexico.
What are the going rates in Tijuana at the different clubs?
I will be there soon and have only sessioned at HK, and a couple of street girls over a couple of visits. Last time at HK, I feel I paid a bit too much with the $120 and a $30 room. I came into the scene when it was $80 + $20.
HK = girl + room.
Tropical = girl + room.
Chicago = girl + room.
A heads up would be helpful.I think we can all pretty much forget about $80 with a bar girl with very few exceptions. You can still try but it's going to depend on your negotiating skills. You would probably have the most success attempting at this price point at Tropical because of the quality of girls. Chicago has improved a lot with the closing of Adelitas but it's still not anywhere close to getting the foot traffic that HK gets. You could pull off starting off negotiating at 80 if the girl is around a 7. 5 or below. HK, forget about it, 100 minimum nowadays unless a chica is willing to grandfather you in.
Inflation is a MF so 100 is pretty much standard. Unfortunately we can't expect these chicks to accept 60 like they did years ago. A lot of them will try for 120 but that's only because they figure we can afford it and they actually have been told by management to start at that price. Why they care about however much the girls make is beyond me. As long as the girls keep pumping out the fichas they shouldn't care whether a girl makes $20 or $200. With that being said, summer wasn't too kind for a lot of the chicas. A lot of them didn't think twice about taking off for the summer since business was slow. The bar is always going to make money but the overall increase in everything and Cascadas and Rizo jacking up their room fees lead to guys drastically cutting on the amount of arribas. Meaning, yes, they might try to start at 120 but if she has a brain will accept 100. If she's firm at 120, walk away. Plenty of 8's and 9's that will accept 100. At HK especially just keep mentioning in your negotiations that the hotels are fucking up their money by jacking up their prices. $40 for 30 minutes is ridiculous. To this day I still haven't paid it, fuck them. Couldn’t tell you the last time I had a standard session there. I will either meet girls off the clock or have them come to my room on discounted days 1 hour minimum for the standard fee.
I believe Chicago recently bumped up their half hour price to $20. For a long time it was $16. I'm surprised it took them this long to raise it. Let's just hope it remains at 20 for a while.
A lot of them will try for 120 but that's only because they figure we can afford it and they actually have been told by management to start at that price. Why they care about however much the girls make is beyond me. As long as the girls keep pumping out the fichas they shouldn't care whether a girl makes $20 or $200. With that being said, summer wasn't too kind for a lot of the chicas. A lot of them didn't think twice about taking off for the summer since business was slow.I'm skeptical about HK management telling them to start at that price, like you said it makes no difference to HK, the only way it affects them is in getting girls to come and work in the bar which is difficult now with the high rent prices in Tijuana and other options girls have to make money. The girls tend to try and control what price is paid and teach the new girls how things should be done. I'm know you talk to more girls than I do with the amount of time you spend in Tijuana but I just have my doubts.
As far as what you mentioned in the hotel price going up I agree it's frustrating but HK just wants guys to buy rooms for the night so they raise the short time rooms to push guys to just get it for the night. Also with the high rents in Tijuana I'd be interested to know how many rooms they are also using for girls that live in the hotel. The last girl that I was with was actually staying at the hotel next to CC because it was cheaper.
I think we can all pretty much forget about $80 with a bar girl with very few exceptions. You can still try but it's going to depend on your negotiating skills. You would probably have the most success attempting at this price point at Tropical because of the quality of girls. Chicago has improved a lot with the closing of Adelitas but it's still not anywhere close to getting the foot traffic that HK gets. You could pull off starting off negotiating at 80 if the girl is around a 7. 5 or below. HK, forget about it, 100 minimum nowadays unless a chica is willing to grandfather you in.
Inflation is a MF so 100 is pretty much standard. Unfortunately we can't expect these chicks to accept 60 like they did years ago..Previously they got 13 pesos per $1. Now they get 17 pesos per dollar.
So, inflation is accounted for already in exchange rate.
I understand the cost going up in pesos. Example from 1040 to 1360 pesos. In lieu of $80.
No one should pay more than $80. But many guys do and of course will gladly charge more as long as guys keep paying more.
If all the guys stopped paying more than $80. Then within a week all gals will accept $80- because the alternative is $0.
We should not complain girls want to charge more. The blame is entirely on the guys who are willing to fork out the money. Until that stops the girls will continue to keep raising prices.
MacNCheeze
09-26-23, 16:45
Previously they got 13 pesos per $1. Now they get 17 pesos per dollar.
So, inflation is accounted for already in exchange rate.I hate price increases as much as anyone else, but that's not a fair comparison. The peso was 20 to a dollar for most of the pandemic, and Tijuana has had rapidly rising rent prices. $80 is virtually impossible now unless you got a thing for gordas. I still try to negotiate $100 when I can, but $120 is not an unreasonable ask if you're vibing with the girl. $150 girls can kick rocks though.
I hate price increases as much as anyone else, but that's not a fair comparison. The peso was 20 to a dollar for most of the pandemic, and Tijuana has had rapidly rising rent prices. $80 is virtually impossible now unless you got a thing for gordas. I still try to negotiate $100 when I can, but $120 is not an unreasonable ask if you're vibing with the girl. $150 girls can kick rocks though.https://www.sandiegored.com/en/news/240866/Costs-through-the-roof-Tijuana-is-crowned-as-the-most-expensive-city-to-live-in
To me the costs are about the same as in Canada to live in Tijuana. Crazy inflation I have seen in all categories over the last two years.
https://www.sandiegored.com/en/news/240866/Costs-through-the-roof-Tijuana-is-crowned-as-the-most-expensive-city-to-live-in
To me the costs are about the same as in Canada to live in Tijuana. Crazy inflation I have seen in all categories over the last two years.My lunches in NYC cost the same or less than they do in Tijuana.
MongerSocal
09-26-23, 19:45
I hit up HK, Chicago & talk to some SW. Godamn has prices gone up but quality is relatively the same. A young Chicago chick wanted $130 and would not budge. She demanded a drink so I left. I talked to a SW next to Malquerida. $45 for 15-20 min she was a 7. I said hell no to that. I found a cutie from Monterey she wanted $150 but I dropped it to 120 bc I bought her a drink. She's a keeper. Thank god I have a few regulars that give $100 sessions price. But on Sunday I wanted something new. I am Latino but the US needs to go to war with Mexico to bring the prices down. I am not going to pay $150 for a chick that may or may not be a good lay.
I'm heading back to the zona in about 3 weeks. Ill post more info.
BrotherMouzone
09-26-23, 22:42
https://www.sandiegored.com/en/news/240866/Costs-through-the-roof-Tijuana-is-crowned-as-the-most-expensive-city-to-live-in
To me the costs are about the same as in Canada to live in Tijuana. Crazy inflation I have seen in all categories over the last two years.LOL at that article classifying Rosarito as one of the most beautiful beaches in Mexico. It's certainly better than the beach in Tijuana but there are literally at least a dozen beach areas that are better throughout MX.
DramaFree11
09-27-23, 03:05
LOL at that article classifying Rosarito as one of the most beautiful beaches in Mexico. It's certainly better than the beach in Tijuana but there are literally at least a dozen beach areas that are better throughout MX.Rosario is a shit hole. I lived there briefly it sucked. I packed my bags and moved to Tijuana, that was a great experience.
I'm skeptical about HK management telling them to start at that price, like you said it makes no difference to HK, the only way it affects them is in getting girls to come and work in the bar which is difficult now with the high rent prices in Tijuana and other options girls have to make money. The girls tend to try and control what price is paid and teach the new girls how things should be done. I'm know you talk to more girls than I do with the amount of time you spend in Tijuana but I just have my doubts.I used to have my doubts too but I have now heard it from too many solid / reliable sources that I can confirm that it's true.
I believe someone not too long ago also posted a report about banging a fresh girl on the scene who had just gone through their orientation process and was specially told to accept no less than $120. Girls in Chicago have caught wind and some try to begin negotiations at that price point as well but they're open to accepting more reasonable offers.
Previously they got 13 pesos per $1. Now they get 17 pesos per dollar.
So, inflation is accounted for already in exchange rate.
I understand the cost going up in pesos. Example from 1040 to 1360 pesos. In lieu of $80.
No one should pay more than $80. But many guys do and of course will gladly charge more as long as guys keep paying more.
If all the guys stopped paying more than $80. Then within a week all gals will accept $80- because the alternative is $0.
We should not complain girls want to charge more. The blame is entirely on the guys who are willing to fork out the money. Until that stops the girls will continue to keep raising prices.What do you think the top price is for these girls to hit, before they stop increasing the price 20 per year? And why don't they just jump right to 200 now? Why do it slowly. Or even $250. Less sex will happen but the price increase will cover the less sex. They could always drop the price in a month if they notice its not working.
LOL at that article classifying Rosarito as one of the most beautiful beaches in Mexico. It's certainly better than the beach in Tijuana but there are literally at least a dozen beach areas that are better throughout MX.That's like saying Rosanne Barr is better looking than Leslie Jones.
I used to have my doubts too but I have now heard it from too many solid / reliable sources that I can confirm that it's true.
I believe someone not too long ago also posted a report about banging a fresh girl on the scene who had just gone through their orientation process and was specially told to accept no less than $120. Girls in Chicago have caught wind and some try to begin negotiations at that price point as well but they're open to accepting more reasonable offers.I'm not saying the girls are completely lying to you but I'd would be interested in exactly how you phrased your questions and how exactly they responded. I don't want you to get any of your girls in trouble or for you to have a problem so if you aren't able to put that here I understand.
Personally I've never heard of girls being told what to charge by the club, remember the girls just sell drinks at the club and if sex happens it is between you and the girl. Thus the need to leave the bar to go to the room. Now you can pay the club a fee to go to the VIP room with the girl but what happens in that room is between you and the girl. Similar to the massage places in Tijuana. You pay a flat fee to the place and negotiate with the girl once in private. I knew some girls at the old La Tropa bar and they hated getting called to the line up for the massage place they had. They preferred to drink with guys and decide in weather or not to go up with them.
I remember the orientation post, I'm pretty sure that guy didn't speak Spanish so the first issue is the translation being correct. The second issue is that the girl could go thru a basic orientation with how the bar works and her ficha prices and earnings. With the second part of the orientation being her basically hanging with a vet and the vet explaining how the other way to make money works. I basically refer to this as the chicas union and they try to force the new girls on pricing, asking for money upfront.
I've seen other bars in Mexico advertise for girls and usually just say that you can basically make good money but don't go into details on what exactly they have to do. Had one girl send me a WhatsApp from one club that had the complete breakdown of what the made each day just for showing up and what they made from drinks but nothing on sex. Never asked her about it but I'd assume the bar can't detail that since it would be a form of pimping.
On a last note in you last visit you mentioned 2 girls offering you a 2 x1 special for $150, so wouldn't this go against what the club tells them. Like I've mentioned before I never bring up money with girls I go with and have never been told I need to pay more. We will never really know unless I can get a message with proof.
RedBaron78
09-27-23, 21:59
I used to have my doubts too but I have now heard it from too many solid / reliable sources that I can confirm that it's true.
I believe someone not too long ago also posted a report about banging a fresh girl on the scene who had just gone through their orientation process and was specially told to accept no less than $120. Girls in Chicago have caught wind and some try to begin negotiations at that price point as well but they're open to accepting more reasonable offers.I wrote about the girl that had just started and gone through orientation. I don't think she mentioned price for sex. But she told me all the girl are told to order wine when the customer is buying them a drink.
I've rarely had girls ask $120 to go to the room. But it will become the norm. Or higher.
I'm not saying the girls are completely lying to you but I'd would be interested in exactly how you phrased your questions and how exactly they responded. I don't want you to get any of your girls in trouble or for you to have a problem so if you aren't able to put that here I understand.
Personally I've never heard of girls being told what to charge by the club, remember the girls just sell drinks at the club and if sex happens it is between you and the girl. Thus the need to leave the bar to go to the room. Now you can pay the club a fee to go to the VIP room with the girl but what happens in that room is between you and the girl. Similar to the massage places in Tijuana. You pay a flat fee to the place and negotiate with the girl once in private. I knew some girls at the old La Tropa bar and they hated getting called to the line up for the massage place they had. They preferred to drink with guys and decide in weather or not to go up with them.
I remember the orientation post, I'm pretty sure that guy didn't speak Spanish so the first issue is the translation being correct. The second issue is that the girl could go thru a basic orientation with how the bar works and her ficha prices and earnings. With the second part of the orientation being her basically hanging with a vet and the vet explaining how the other way to make money works. I basically refer to this as the chicas union and they try to force the new girls on pricing, asking for money upfront.
I've seen other bars in Mexico advertise for girls and usually just say that you can basically make good money but don't go into details on what exactly they have to do. Had one girl send me a WhatsApp from one club that had the complete breakdown of what the made each day just for showing up and what they made from drinks but nothing on sex. Never asked her about it but I'd assume the bar can't detail that since it would be a form of pimping.
On a last note in you last visit you mentioned 2 girls offering you a 2 x1 special for $150, so wouldn't this go against what the club tells them. Like I've mentioned before I never bring up money with girls I go with and have never been told I need to pay more. We will never really know unless I can get a message with proof.I didn't ask them any questions, they're the ones who brought it up to me which is why I said I can confirm from reliable sources. My main girl from HK told me, which from her alone is a good enough source to confirm. She mentioned it because she said a lot of the girls aren't getting too many arribas and asked hypothetically how can management expect them to quote higher prices when a lot of them are already having a tough time getting customers as it is. I told her I think that the $40 room rate for ST is really putting a damper on things. At least Rizo still has the 30 for 30 minutes option. But you would have to get a girl from Tropical for that.
Another person I heard it from is one of the milfs I know that works there and has been working the zona for more than 10 years. We hook up every now and then and one of the times she told me to not tell anyone what I pay her because she would get in trouble for accepting anything less than $120. She's always been straight up with me and has no reason to lie.
A third person I heard it from was from one of the new girls I met through another chica who introduced me to her. She just mentioned to me matter of factly that the going rate for arribas was 120. I kind of made face questioning that and said ok but that includes anal right? And she just laughed it off.
I don't think it's something that's necessarily set in stone, but it's strongly suggested. The smart ones realize that they're already pushing it with 100 and are open to reasonable offers. The girls that offered me the $150 special for both mentioned it to me very discreetly and I'm assuming only gave me that quote because business was slow. They probably figured they would only have to put in half the work since it was two of them and an easy way to pick up some cash. About a half hour after that I saw them sitting at the bar near the alley just hanging out talking to each other. Like I said, perhaps I did miss out on a good time but I went with my gut instinct and turned them down because I thought they were probably just trying to hustle me since they didn't have anything else going on.
I wrote about the girl that had just started and gone through orientation. I don't think she mentioned price for sex. But she told me all the girl are told to order wine when the customer is buying them a drink.
I've rarely had girls ask $120 to go to the room. But it will become the norm. Or higher.I remember your report but I was referring to someone else who barely had a handful of posts on here.
Baxter Slade
09-28-23, 16:24
I wrote about the girl that had just started and gone through orientation. Damn, I miss the good old days when there was no orientation. I will never forget the story told to me by a tropical chica I became close with.
When she arrived at bar Tropical nobody told her pretty much nothing. For the first few days she would just throw those ficha tickets away. She thought it was similar to that worthless little paper they hand you when you ride a ruta.
I'm a little mystified by this thread.
The fact that HK management suggests a starting price to the girls doesn't seem unusual to me, and the girls are free to take the advice or leave it. Face it, the going rate is moving up to $120 from $100 and whining about it will not. Change. A. Damned. Thing.
Saying that "You will hold out for $80" like this Rambo1969 guy translates to "You will not get your itch scratched on this trip to Tijuana" unless you're willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel. The street girls are always there.
Get real.
I didn't ask them any questions, they're the ones who brought it up to me which is why I said I can confirm from reliable sources. My main girl from HK told me, which from her alone is a good enough source to confirm. She mentioned it because she said a lot of the girls aren't getting too many arribas and asked hypothetically how can management expect them to quote higher prices when a lot of them are already having a tough time getting customers as it is. I told her I think that the $40 room rate for ST is really putting a damper on things. At least Rizo still has the 30 for 30 minutes option. But you would have to get a girl from Tropical for that.
Another person I heard it from is one of the milfs I know that works there and has been working the zona for more than 10 years. We hook up every now and then and one of the times she told me to not tell anyone what I pay her because she would get in trouble for accepting anything less than $120. She's always been straight up with me and has no reason to lie.
A third person I heard it from was from one of the new girls I met through another chica who introduced me to her. She just mentioned to me matter of factly that the going rate for arribas was 120. I kind of made face questioning that and said ok but that includes anal right? And she just laughed it off..
I didn't ask them any questions, they're the ones who brought it up to me which is why I said I can confirm from reliable sources. My main girl from HK told me, which from her alone is a good enough source to confirm. She mentioned it because she said a lot of the girls aren't getting too many arribas and asked hypothetically how can management expect them to quote higher prices when a lot of them are already having a tough time getting customers as it is. I told her I think that the $40 room rate for ST is really putting a damper on things. At least Rizo still has the 30 for 30 minutes option. But you would have to get a girl from Tropical for that.
Another person I heard it from is one of the milfs I know that works there and has been working the zona for more than 10 years. We hook up every now and then and one of the times she told me to not tell anyone what I pay her because she would get in trouble for accepting anything less than $120. She's always been straight up with me and has no reason to lie.
A third person I heard it from was from one of the new girls I met through another chica who introduced me to her. She just mentioned to me matter of factly that the going rate for arribas was 120. I kind of made face questioning that and said ok but that includes anal right? And she just laughed it off.
I don't think it's something that's necessarily set in stone, but it's strongly suggested. The smart ones realize that they're already pushing it with 100 and are open to reasonable offers. The girls that offered me the $150 special for both mentioned it to me very discreetly and I'm assuming only gave me that quote because business was slow. They probably figured they would only have to put in half the work since it was two of them and an easy way to pick up some cash. About a half hour after that I saw them sitting at the bar near the alley just hanging out talking to each other. Like I said, perhaps I did miss out on a good time but I went with my gut instinct and turned them down because I thought they were probably just trying to hustle me since they didn't have anything else going on.Well I guess I just tend to think that what most girls in the bar tell me is a lie and most of the time if I catch them in a lie or start to question it they will just change the subject. I never really get into bar drama with the girls or ask them about work. So maybe that's why I don't hear these complaints. Like I said in my past experiences I've never heard a girl tell me that the bar is involved in telling them what to charge but maybe things are changing in HK.
I know I'm not going to change your mind on this matter and we just believe differently in this matter. The first girl you mentioned if I was talking with her I would of pushed her more on who exactly is telling them that to ask for more and what is the reason they give for it.
The second girl I just wonder why she told you not to tell anyone what you pay, you don't seem to talk to management so besides other girls who would you talk to. Which brings me back to the girls being pushed more by the other girls to ask for a certain price so the girls don't price against each other.
The third girl again suggested what the going rate is but they all take less more or less so obviously it's just girls negotiating tactics.
My last point in this matter is just the fact that people like to complain about things and women especially, not so much that you will fix the problem but just want sympathy. I first started noticing this when I lived in Mexico and just thought it was a Mexican thing, now it seems everyone has to play the victim card so others feel bad for them.
I'm a little mystified by this thread.
The fact that HK management suggests a starting price to the girls doesn't seem unusual to me, and the girls are free to take the advice or leave it. Face it, the going rate is moving up to $120 from $100 and whining about it will not. Change. A. Damned. Thing.My opinion is that the girls in the bar come up with the pricing and advise the new girls what to charge and HK management has less incentive. Nothing24 and I just have different experiences and it's a simple discussion.
I have yet for a girl to be upset with $100 and maybe you are referring to someone else in regards to whining about price but I'd be the last one to complain about what a girl charges for me to have sex with her.
Hey all,
Me and my buddy have planned to go Tijuana next month for 2 nights and 3 days. We are planning to get into shuttle from border to HK club. We are planning to stay in club Rizo. And enjoy there. We are going on Sat and Sun nights.
What would be your recommendation for having long time fun with a girl when we take from HK to Rizo? Should we get VIP card from HK and use it for discount on hotel at Rizo? Does it worth for us to buy VIP? We will hold the line at 80-120.
And can we get agency incall at Rizo? And how long usually girl stay at room from HK to our room?
Thanks for reading, please help with answering some of these question. I have tried reading the forum for making this plan so far.
AmericanPi
10-06-23, 23:29
I'm a little bit envious. Not because you're going to Tijuana. I go pretty regularly. But because it's your first time. Nothing is like the first time.
People have different opinions. I will give you mine.
Don't stay in zona norte. It's so seedy. It's fine for a few hours, but you need to get out of there. And it's so Central and easy to get to. A couple of dollars Uber ride.
Stay in a nice hotel in central Tijuana. There are many.
And do a range of zona norte bars and in call girls from agencies. Different experiences, but both good.
Hey all,
Me and my buddy have planned to go Tijuana next month for 2 nights and 3 days. We are planning to get into shuttle from border to HK club. We are planning to stay in club Rizo. And enjoy there. We are going on Sat and Sun nights.
What would be your recommendation for having long time fun with a girl when we take from HK to Rizo? Should we get VIP card from HK and use it for discount on hotel at Rizo? Does it worth for us to buy VIP? We will hold the line at 80-120.
And can we get agency incall at Rizo? And how long usually girl stay at room from HK to our room?
Thanks for reading, please help with answering some of these question. I have tried reading the forum for making this plan so far.
No one should pay more than $80. But many guys do and of course will gladly charge more as long as guys keep paying more..What year is this $80 based on?
Is this just wishing for the old times. While the world around that memory has increased in costs by 40%?
What year is this $80 based on?
Is this just wishing for the old times. While the world around that memory has increased in costs by 40%?$80 was price before covid after initial $100 quote is discounted via negotiation.
Back then $80 got them 80 x13=1040 pesos.
Now that same $80 gets them 80 x17=1360 pesos.
So inflation is already accounted for in the pesos (1360 vs 1040).
$80 was price before covid after initial $100 quote is discounted via negotiation.
Back then $80 got them 80 x13=1040 pesos.
Now that same $80 gets them 80 x17=1360 pesos.
So inflation is already accounted for in the pesos (1360 vs 1040).I'm sure I won't be the only one to point this out but the exchange rate in early 2020 was almost 18 more or less and started to really jump as COVID became more of a threat with it reaching as high as 25. I'm not sure what part of your memory made you think it was 13 since it hasn't been in that range for almost 10 years.
So to go by your math $80 x 18= 1440 pesos.
Early COVID $80 x 25= 2000 pesos.
Until late 2022 it's been around 20. $80 x 20= 1600 pesos.
So lets say most girls are used to getting the 20 rate which is low in my opinion but I'm being nice they are now getting 1360 according to you when they use to get 1600. So by girls starting at $120 and most I'm sure will except $100 that is only 100 pesos more which still doesn't cover the cost of inflation.
Now some guys paid in pesos and took advantage of the higher rate, the smartest guys just exchanged as much money as possible during that time because they knew it wouldn't last. Now they have that money to play with and can make money changing it back to $$ or paying in pesos and still getting a great deal.
What year is this $80 based on?
Is this just wishing for the old times. While the world around that memory has increased in costs by 40%?I wonder what the Tijuana inflation really is. It's been 18% overall in the US since 2019 (peaking at 7% in 2021), but restaurant eating much higher. I hear Mexico had double digit years. Seems like the puta economy is on its own course.
$80 was price before covid after initial $100 quote is discounted via negotiation.
Back then $80 got them 80 x13=1040 pesos.
Now that same $80 gets them 80 x17=1360 pesos.
So inflation is already accounted for in the pesos (1360 vs 1040).Pre covid was 4-5 yrs ago.
It's time to move on. 20% rise in every cost of living you can throw a rock at in a border town next to the wealthy AF USA. Is quite a deal. For a luxury tourist good (ass) 25% is quite a deal at the same time.
Inflation isn't part of the exchange rate. Unless you infer that inflation only happens on one side of the exchange.
It doesn't.
FOUR years is a little too soon to complain about "How it was like in the good old days".
What agencies would you recommend would be the best according to you? We will plan one night in a hotel outside of Zona for agencies experience and one night at Rizo for clubs experience.
I'm a little bit envious. Not because you're going to Tijuana. I go pretty regularly. But because it's your first time. Nothing is like the first time.
People have different opinions. I will give you mine.
Don't stay in zona norte. It's so seedy. It's fine for a few hours, but you need to get out of there. And it's so Central and easy to get to. A couple of dollars Uber ride.
Stay in a nice hotel in central Tijuana. There are many.
And do a range of zona norte bars and in call girls from agencies. Different experiences, but both good.
I'm sure I won't be the only one to point this out but the exchange rate in early 2020 was almost 18 more or less and started to really jump as COVID became more of a threat with it reaching as high as 25. I'm not sure what part of your memory made you think it was 13 since it hasn't been in that range for almost 10 years. .You are right. I made an error thinking it was 13 p / usd before covid.
You are right. I made an error thinking it was 13 p / usd before covid.No big deal everyone makes errors I'm just happy that I was able to help correct things. That's the whole point of this board is to give the best information so guys have a good time. In the first post that you mentioned the 13 you were more vague so the post confused me but just let it go. So after your response to Speedy made it more clear I figured it best to be honest on what the actual rate was.
In general I think you posting about what the girls get in pesos after the exchange rate is a valuable post. We get so stuck on paying in dollars that we don't realize that the girls only think more in pesos and what they get for those dollars. So if they get spoiled getting 25 to 1 and now they get 17 they will want to continue to try and get the amount they got from the 25. Because in their minds they are making less especially with how inflation has been.
In general some in Mexico like a strong peso but a large amount like a strong dollar because that's how Mexico gets more jobs because the labor is cheaper. Since Tijuana is a border city the exchange rate has more effects on the economy with all the factories in the city and all the people that can cross so with a weaker dollar they will buy more in the US compared to Tijuana.
Explorer8939
10-10-23, 16:04
The majority of the ladies are large, everywhere. Lots have artificial asses, some comically so. It's not the place to go if you want a lady with a Barbie figure, the trend now is thick waists and big bellies.
There are some pearls scattered within the swine.
I had an attack by a drink shark yesterday. She asked for a drink, the waiter brought a pink teacup, she asked if I wanted to go to the room, I said "no", and she left. Quicker than it took to read this.
I'm sure I won't be the only one to point this out but the exchange rate in early 2020 was almost 18 more or less and started to really jump as COVID became more of a threat with it reaching as high as 25. I'm not sure what part of your memory made you think it was 13 since it hasn't been in that range for almost 10 years.
So to go by your math $80 x 18= 1440 pesos.
Early COVID $80 x 25= 2000 pesos.
Until late 2022 it's been around 20. $80 x 20= 1600 pesos.
So lets say most girls are used to getting the 20 rate which is low in my opinion but I'm being nice they are now getting 1360 according to you when they use to get 1600. So by girls starting at $120 and most I'm sure will except $100 that is only 100 pesos more which still doesn't cover the cost of inflation.
Now some guys paid in pesos and took advantage of the higher rate, the smartest guys just exchanged as much money as possible during that time because they knew it wouldn't last. Now they have that money to play with and can make money changing it back to $$ or paying in pesos and still getting a great deal.Makes sense, most are thinkin only in dollars, I have been getting deals when I get some pesos after paying food when I go out in group to a nice restaurant in Tijuana, it takes about 2 or 3 outs to get some pesos and then change them for $120-150. COVID rate was about 20 so $125 was 2,500 MXN. Now last time I managed to change pesos to dollars I changed 2,100 and got $125 which got me an escort and saved some cash but this is not as easy as changing dollars to pesos like before, now it takes time.
Hello everyone,
It's been a long time since I've been to Tijuana and based on what I've been reading on the blogs quite a bit has changed. Still, need a little advice. I plan on going to the Halloween parties next week and want to know if anyone thinks it will be worth going or not. The last time I was there for Halloween I had fun but 2008-2010 were different times. I don't plan on staying the night but should I still get a room since the prices have gone up? The hope is to make a few trips upstairs and have a place to rest / freshen up a bit then head home once I'm all partied out. The shuttles offered seem to be the preferred method to get to la zona so seems like transportation is taken care of. If anyone is going to be in the area, let me know. Always down to share a drink with like-minded individuals.
Baxter Slade
10-19-23, 22:32
Hello everyone,
It's been a long time since I've been to Tijuana and based on what I've been reading on the blogs quite a bit has changed. Still, need a little advice. I plan on going to the Halloween parties next week and want to know if anyone thinks it will be worth going or not. The last time I was there for Halloween I had fun but 2008-2010 were different times. I don't plan on staying the night but should I still get a room since the prices have gone up? The hope is to make a few trips upstairs and have a place to rest / freshen up a bit then head home once I'm all partied out. The shuttles offered seem to be the preferred method to get to la zona so seems like transportation is taken care of. If anyone is going to be in the area, let me know. Always down to share a drink with like-minded individuals.Back when I was young and cruising regular pick up type bars Halllween was the best, most fun ever.
But when it comes to Halloween, all year long in yhe zona they dress as scantly dressed ho's. Who wants to see the chicas dressed as withes, pirates and monsters?
Hello everyone,
It's been a long time since I've been to Tijuana and based on what I've been reading on the blogs quite a bit has changed. Still, need a little advice. I plan on going to the Halloween parties next week and want to know if anyone thinks it will be worth going or not. The last time I was there for Halloween I had fun but 2008-2010 were different times. I don't plan on staying the night but should I still get a room since the prices have gone up? The hope is to make a few trips upstairs and have a place to rest / freshen up a bit then head home once I'm all partied out. The shuttles offered seem to be the preferred method to get to la zona so seems like transportation is taken care of. If anyone is going to be in the area, let me know. Always down to share a drink with like-minded individuals.Well if you go up with more than one girl you will be better off getting a room for all night since it will be cheaper than paying twice for a short time room. Also if you want a place to rest and recharge you have that option.
When you say your going next week for the parties did you mean the HK costume party on 10/25 or were you actually thinking of going on 10/31? The difference would be a bigger crowd on 10/25 with the contest and fun but sometimes with these contests some guys complain that the girls are more interested in the show instead of working. Especially if they are all dressed up and don't want to have the hassle of messing up thier costume. On 10/31 it will be more relaxed and cheaper rooms if you get the VIP but might not be worth it if you only visit once.
DonCarlos1234
10-20-23, 12:32
I am reading Colombia, Brazil and Tijuana boards. Because I have been there. Starting in Tijuana many years ago. Last time in Tijuana was 1 year ago. Colombia 9 months ago, Brazil one month ago.
I seldom do streetwalkers, Fat girls or big butt girls. I do minimum 7-8's and used to only do SA 9-10's. It's what we all would like to be doing, right? Not cheap but great memories. So this info does not apply to the cheapest establishment. HKTJ used to have what I like. Not so much now. Or am I wrong? I will be back in a few weeks.
Tijuana sounds like there are few 9's RARE to find 10's, stunners or spinners to be had unless you go to an agency in Tijuana? Also seems that $120 for maximum 30 minutes (plus room cost) is the current rate. That's only slightly different than a year ago.
In Colombia the rate (for an hour) is still around 600 COP for 30 min to an hour but the selection is better although overrun by guys from Miami. LOL and you need to be smart about the search. Unless you are in La Isla etc.
Brazil there is a surplus of 9's-10's. And 1 hour will run $145 at a high end clinica. Airnb's are cheap and nice. Scandallo, awesome and expensive.
So all in all I think it's worth checking out Tijuana again.
Brazil / Colombia Plane fares start at $600+ to get anywhere in S. America. 17 hours from my city to Sao Paulo.
Aviator400
10-20-23, 12:55
I am reading Colombia, Brazil and Tijuana boards. Because I have been there. Starting in Tijuana many years ago. Last time in Tijuana was 1 year ago. Colombia 9 months ago, Brazil one month ago.
I seldom do streetwalkers, Fat girls or big butt girls. I do minimum 7-8's and used to only do SA 9-10's. It's what we all would like to be doing, right? Not cheap but great memories. So this info does not apply to the cheapest establishment. HKTJ used to have what I like. Not so much now. Or am I wrong? I will be back in a few weeks.
Tijuana sounds like there are few 9's RARE to find 10's, stunners or spinners to be had unless you go to an agency in Tijuana? Also seems that $120 for maximum 30 minutes (plus room cost) is the current rate. That's only slightly different than a year ago.
In Colombia the rate (for an hour) is still around 600 COP for 30 min to an hour but the selection is better although overrun by guys from Miami. LOL and you need to be smart about the search. Unless you are in La Isla etc.
Brazil there is a surplus of 9's-10's. And 1 hour will run $145 at a high end clinica. Airnb's are cheap and nice. Scandallo, awesome and expensive.
So all in all I think it's worth checking out Tijuana again.
Brazil / Colombia Plane fares start at $600+ to get anywhere in S. America. 17 hours from my city to Sao Paulo.HK still has some hot girls rotating in. However, the HK management is treating everyone poorly, mongers and putas. So after the girls figure out that there are better places to be, they leave. Chicago Club has improved greatly since Adelitas closed and HK made up a bunch of stupid rules. Example, no lap dances in the club. WTF? Some asshat staff goes around policing this. If the girl is sitting in a monger's lap, asshat tells them to stop or be fined, then tries to sell the monger a $23 chit for a private lap dance.
Another is the $30 wine BS. And now rooms are $40/40 min, and they often start knocking at 30 min.
The girls at HK are the hottest, but the BS is eyeball deep.
Not sure I'm getting your reasoning here. Airfare to South America is more expensive, but the women are prettier and cheaper? The only real cost is extra time required to get there. It might be 17 h to Sao Paulo, but it's going to be half that or less to go to Bogota.
Sounds to me like you're setting yourself up for disappointment by going to Tijuana.
I am reading Colombia, Brazil and Tijuana boards. Because I have been there. Starting in Tijuana many years ago. Last time in Tijuana was 1 year ago. Colombia 9 months ago, Brazil one month ago.
I seldom do streetwalkers, Fat girls or big butt girls. I do minimum 7-8's and used to only do SA 9-10's. It's what we all would like to be doing, right? Not cheap but great memories. So this info does not apply to the cheapest establishment. HKTJ used to have what I like. Not so much now. Or am I wrong? I will be back in a few weeks.
Tijuana sounds like there are few 9's RARE to find 10's, stunners or spinners to be had unless you go to an agency in Tijuana? Also seems that $120 for maximum 30 minutes (plus room cost) is the current rate. That's only slightly different than a year ago.
In Colombia the rate (for an hour) is still around 600 COP for 30 min to an hour but the selection is better although overrun by guys from Miami. LOL and you need to be smart about the search. Unless you are in La Isla etc.
Brazil there is a surplus of 9's-10's. And 1 hour will run $145 at a high end clinica. Airnb's are cheap and nice. Scandallo, awesome and expensive.
So all in all I think it's worth checking out Tijuana again.
Brazil / Colombia Plane fares start at $600+ to get anywhere in S. America. 17 hours from my city to Sao Paulo.
Does anyone know if Cascadas will let you check in a few hours early on a Monday? I was planning on checking in at 1:00 instead of 3:00. I'm guessing that Mondays aren't incredibly busy and that I can therefore get there and start having fun a little early. If anyone has any insight, please let me know. Stay safe why'all.
MacNCheeze
10-21-23, 17:13
Does anyone know if Cascadas will let you check in a few hours early on a Monday? I was planning on checking in at 1:00 instead of 3:00. I'm guessing that Mondays aren't incredibly busy and that I can therefore get there and start having fun a little early. If anyone has any insight, please let me know. Stay safe why'all.Usually they make you wait till 3, though I've successfully gotten in at 2 pm before. Doesn't hurt to ask and a tip might help them find a room suddenly become ready. Worst case scenario you can have them hold your bag at HK and chill for a while until you can check in.
Explorer8939
10-21-23, 21:42
Does anyone know if Cascadas will let you check in a few hours early on a Monday? I was planning on checking in at 1:00 instead of 3:00. I'm guessing that Mondays aren't incredibly busy and that I can therefore get there and start having fun a little early. If anyone has any insight, please let me know. Stay safe why'all.You can try, it's a matter of luck.
If not, they can hold your suitcase while you go eat, or go to HK.
Aviator400
10-23-23, 03:02
Does anyone know if Cascadas will let you check in a few hours early on a Monday? I was planning on checking in at 1:00 instead of 3:00. I'm guessing that Mondays aren't incredibly busy and that I can therefore get there and start having fun a little early. If anyone has any insight, please let me know. Stay safe why'all.Mondays are actually busy because of the discount. And because they like to be dicks.
I am guessing that part of their marketing strategy is to create the illusion of exclusivity and popularity. This is demonstrated by their failure to open up more of the club on weekdays when you are ass-to-elbow on the main floor.
I was told that if you have a VIP card, you can check in a few hours early. Tried it a few times. No go.
Stl Danish
10-23-23, 09:21
And because they like to be dicks.Truth, desk guys at Cascadas always have a stick up their ass for some reason.
Cocr Brotheler
10-24-23, 06:28
In colombia the rate (for an hour) is still around 600 cop for 30 min to an hour but the selection is better although overrun by guys from miami. Lol and you need to be smart about the search. Unless you are in la isla etc.
600 cop?? 60,000 cop?
Captain Solo
10-24-23, 06:48
Ask to talk to the manager.
Shake his hand, be a friend with him, discreetly hand him a propina, $10 or $20 will do.
Ask him for what you need. You will get your wishes, even rooms at last minute on nights Cascada reception guys claim fully booked, Never fails!
ABAJoeSmith123
10-24-23, 07:53
Truth, desk guys at Cascadas always have a stick up their ass for some reason.Are you surprised? It's some lowlife working the front desk at a brothel / hooker hotel. You think the front desk guy is going to be college educated, with a graduate degree, friendly, reasonable, and able to engage in an intellectual conversation with you?
BrotherMouzone
10-24-23, 14:30
Truth, desk guys at Cascadas always have a stick up their ass for some reason.LOL, I don't know. I've never had any problems with them personally in all the years I've dealt with them. Seems to me they're just doing their jobs. Maybe if they're extremely busy at that moment their attitudes aren't the most pleasant, though I've never experienced that. Some of them recognize me by face at this point (even though I only go to Tijuana 3 times a year or so) and are always cordial. If I have an extra beer or two that I don't feel like taking back across the border with me on my flight home, I usually just give it to one of them when I checkout.
Are you surprised? It's some lowlife working the front desk at a brothel / hooker hotel. You think the front desk guy is going to be college educated, with a graduate degree, friendly, reasonable, and able to engage in an intellectual conversation with you?I disagree. The oxxo girls are way more friendlier. Burger King in mexixo and carls Jr staff is very polite. Education has nothing to do with it. I could guess what the real reason is but I don't even want to talk about it on here. Let's just say they don't give those jobs out based on whose best at customer service like they do at the mariot or Hilton.
Rainman306
10-26-23, 01:00
I keep seeing guys saying $300 for a night is enough cash to bring. This only really works if your only planning to bang 1 chick or 2 chicks, but severely limit your drinking & partying in the club.
It's pretty much going to be $100 (maybe more) for every girl plus whatever the half hour room rate is.
The overnight weekend rate is 110 + 30 deposit = 140.2 HK girls would be 200. Up to 340. But with an overnight room you'll be less rushed, can refresh, shower, warm up with watching porn. I think to have a good night now at HK is at least $400.
Anthony2023
10-26-23, 01:13
Truth, desk guys at Cascadas always have a stick up their ass for some reason.I mean. Wouldn't you be hating too if you had to watch drunk tourist take girls you like up to bang while you are stuck behind a desk all day. That has to suck.
Anthony2023
10-26-23, 01:15
It's been a minute since I last checked this website, maybe 6 months ago. What is this BS about $120? Is the standard not $100 anymore? Wtf happened?
Anthony2023
10-26-23, 01:25
I keep seeing guys saying $300 for a night is enough cash to bring. This only really works if your only planning to bang 1 chick or 2 chicks, but severely limit your drinking & partying in the club.
It's pretty much going to be $100 (maybe more) for every girl plus whatever the half hour room rate is.
The overnight weekend rate is 110 + 30 deposit = 140.2 HK girls would be 200. Up to 340. But with an overnight room you'll be less rushed, can refresh, shower, warm up with watching porn. I think to have a good night now at HK is at least $400.The next morning I always put on the porn they have or watch sports and get in the jacuzzi so I can dip my cock and balls into the hot bubbles to fully recover for the next outing later on that night. It's one of the best feelings. Just sit back and chill, maybe smoke a cigar in the tub, go out to eat and than hit the club later that night to find a girl to fuck and repeat the process the next day.
It's been a minute since I last checked this website, maybe 6 months ago. What is this BS about $120? Is the standard not $100 anymore? Wtf happened?I think most will still accept 100 but there are some girls that will try to start at 120. The worst ones are the ones who will agree to 100 but then expect a "tip" on top of that after the deed is done. Just tell them sorry no more dinero. Although if a girl does try to start at 120 it gives you an opening to discuss extras like BBBJ, BBFS, etc. Just tell them you're used to only paying 80/100 so if you're going to consider 120 it has to include extra services. Of course this is also depends on how much you're willing to spend.
As far as the other topic of how much you'll need for 1 night, it depends on how many girls you plan on banging. If it's one then 200 should be enough. Especially if you already know the girl. Hell, I've spent less than 200 on TLN's with girls I'm already familiar with.
The key to making your money stretch is to make sure you keep tabs on how much you're spending on drinks because those shits add up quickly. I see so many guys buying girls round after round and they're just sitting there not doing anything. If the girl is not giving you any action by the 2nd drink, get rid of her. I have seen guys drop $50 on girls within a matter of minutes and they're just sitting there with their arms crossed or playing on their phones. Also, if you're going to have your own room bring some alcohol with you so you cut down on costs.
DonCarlos1234
10-26-23, 12:40
600 cop?? 60,000 cop?Try the Medellin Forum: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2862735#post2862735.
The key to making your money stretch is to make sure you keep tabs on how much you're spending on drinks because those shits add up quickly. I see so many guys buying girls round after round and they're just sitting there not doing anything. If the girl is not giving you any action by the 2nd drink, get rid of her. I have seen guys drop $50 on girls within a matter of minutes and they're just sitting there with their arms crossed or playing on their phones.I don't agree completely with your point but I understand what you mean in some cases. I spend much of my time just watching some of the girls and the attitude they have. The girls aggressiveness sometimes depends on her looks and with the looks or age of the guy she is with. So some young hottie might seem cold but it could be because of the guy she is with. I think the hard part is for some of the girls to really have fun with a guy that they can't communicate with and have to use a translator for everything. I think the guys that have the best success without being able to speak the language are the ones that at least try and can joke around with the girls to make it more fun.
Personally I don't mind sitting with a girl and drinking and she isn't aggressive. If we are having a good conversation and she seems interested in different things I don't need to have her all over me in the bar because I know it will be good in the room. Sometimes I've told girls that I was hesitant to go with them because they've been shy and usually they tell me it will different in the room and they were right.
The part I completely agree with is that if a girl is sitting with you disinterested with arms crossed or on the phone the whole time they don't have any respect for you and I wouldn't buy them anything.
Cocr Brotheler
10-27-23, 00:50
Try the Medellin Forum: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2862735#post2862735.Read more about what?
If can get a girl for fifteen cents wow you know something I don't.
600 COP X $1/4200.
Dcrist0527
10-27-23, 14:23
Like you, I've been to all 3. Though my experience in Brazil is far less than Colombia or Tijuana. Here's how they stack up for me, generally.
Airfare- everyone needs to do their own homework. Depending on time of year, point of origin, etc. , those costs vary.
The best way I can compare is by night. We all want different experiences. But my idea of a good night is a very good party, maybe a few hours in a club drinking, flirting, etc. Followed by a date of at least 2 hours. I'm far more interested in quality over quantity. To make that happen, I think this is a fair comparison:
Tijuana. Most expensive and slightly lower quality in general. Go to the bars, hotel and girls. It'll run me about $500 to $600. I could certainly go cheaper and have gone way over that. But $500 will get me a fun night.
MDE. If you find a local and go to a local club, you won't spend that much. But, generally, I'll go to Gustos (MDE regulars hate it but too bad) I'll drink and party there for less than $200 US. Guys claim girls cost $200 US and up. I've never paid that. A comparable night in MDE costs me myabe $350.
Brazil, specifically Rio. The equivalent to the above is termas. Probably a mix between Gustos and HK as far as environment. And a comparable night there costs me around $300 US.
Again, I've gone way over that budget at times and under that budget.
Lastly, maybe most importantly is quality of girls. There's diamonds in each of course. But generally, in my opinion. Brazil has the best sex. Those girls WANT you to think of them as the best sex of your lives. And if DFK is important to you, Brazil wins hands down. MDE has the best selection in the looks department. (Very subjective, of course.) MDE is also the least transactional. These girls are not clock watchers and give more of a GFE vibe. Tijuana, well, it's convenient. LOL. It's hard to beat that first visit to HK when you are just blown away. But beyond convenience, I don't think Tijuana stacks up well against the others.
Just my opinions. Others will disagree, and that's good. But just wanted to share.
I am reading Colombia, Brazil and Tijuana boards. Because I have been there. Starting in Tijuana many years ago. Last time in Tijuana was 1 year ago. Colombia 9 months ago, Brazil one month ago.
I seldom do streetwalkers, Fat girls or big butt girls. I do minimum 7-8's and used to only do SA 9-10's. It's what we all would like to be doing, right? Not cheap but great memories. So this info does not apply to the cheapest establishment. HKTJ used to have what I like. Not so much now. Or am I wrong? I will be back in a few weeks.
Tijuana sounds like there are few 9's RARE to find 10's, stunners or spinners to be had unless you go to an agency in Tijuana? Also seems that $120 for maximum 30 minutes (plus room cost) is the current rate. That's only slightly different than a year ago.
In Colombia the rate (for an hour) is still around 600 COP for 30 min to an hour but the selection is better although overrun by guys from Miami. LOL and you need to be smart about the search. Unless you are in La Isla etc.
Brazil there is a surplus of 9's-10's. And 1 hour will run $145 at a high end clinica. Airnb's are cheap and nice. Scandallo, awesome and expensive.
So all in all I think it's worth checking out Tijuana again.
Brazil / Colombia Plane fares start at $600+ to get anywhere in S. America. 17 hours from my city to Sao Paulo.
As of October 28th 2023 I asked three different girls at Hong Kong and they all said $150.
PoundHound
10-31-23, 01:20
Hello all, I'm heading to Tijuana and the HK this Sunday to Wednesday.
This will be my first time in Tijuana. I will be landing in SD at 10 ish AM. I'll probably will be passing pedeast around noonish. Meeting up with a wing person would be nice. I have been reading this site for several months and thanks you all for your information I appreciate it!!
Cocr Brotheler
10-31-23, 05:47
As of October 28th 2023 I asked three different girls at Hong Kong and they all said $150.I got quoted $120 in 2015 and man she was smoking hot so I accepted. However I did not know only can take HK gals to Cascadas or Tropical and when tried to take her to Hotel Coahuila was game over.
Anthony2023
10-31-23, 23:33
I got quoted $120 in 2015 and man she was smoking hot so I accepted. However I did not know only can take HK gals to Cascadas or Tropical and when tried to take her to Hotel Coahuila was game over.Last time I went was a year ago and I've never been asked for more than a 100. In the past 3 years I've only paid 120 once and that was because it was past 4 am and I think the chick knew I was limited with options. I'm super picky and try to always leave with a 9/10 in my opinion. I've heard the girls quote older, fat, bad hygiene, drunk dudes higher prices to avoid them so I think a lot has to do with how you present yourself but 150 yikes! Would you consider yourself unattractive? Or is it really that high now? What did they use to quote you last year?
Random question. In Hong Kong, Chicago, and Tropical Bar, do we have to tip the guy that puts the rob on the strippers before we go outside to the hotel next door?
LeeroyJenkins
11-01-23, 08:57
Random question. In Hong Kong, Chicago, and Tropical Bar, do we have to tip the guy that puts the rob on the strippers before we go outside to the hotel next door?Not forced but they kinda force you too and it makes you look cheap to the girl if you don't. It's something you should do though.
BrotherMouzone
11-01-23, 17:44
Random question. In Hong Kong, Chicago, and Tropical Bar, do we have to tip the guy that puts the rob on the strippers before we go outside to the hotel next door?You don't HAVE to tip anyone at those clubs (including meseros) but there is pressure to and my recommendation is that you should. You only have to give up $1 anyway, LOL. I remember a year or so ago texting an HK chica I know to come up to my room because I didn't feel like walking downstairs to the club. After we finished she asked me for $1 for the robe guy since I guess she had to tip him herself when she walked up. I'm unapolegetically cheap myself but IMO it's poor form and a bad idea overall to try and skimp out on the robe guy LOL.
As of October 28th 2023 I asked three different girls at Hong Kong and they all said $150.Better be getting bb or getting ripped off.
I know before the first drink is finished what I want with a loca. If we getting a 2nd drink we taking it to room to enjoy while we having fun.
I think most will still accept 100 but there are some girls that will try to start at 120. The worst ones are the ones who will agree to 100 but then expect a "tip" on top of that after the deed is done. Just tell them sorry no more dinero. Although if a girl does try to start at 120 it gives you an opening to discuss extras like BBBJ, BBFS, etc. Just tell them you're used to only paying 80/100 so if you're going to consider 120 it has to include extra services. Of course this is also depends on how much you're willing to spend.
As far as the other topic of how much you'll need for 1 night, it depends on how many girls you plan on banging. If it's one then 200 should be enough. Especially if you already know the girl. Hell, I've spent less than 200 on TLN's with girls I'm already familiar with.
The key to making your money stretch is to make sure you keep tabs on how much you're spending on drinks because those shits add up quickly. I see so many guys buying girls round after round and they're just sitting there not doing anything. If the girl is not giving you any action by the 2nd drink, get rid of her. I have seen guys drop $50 on girls within a matter of minutes and they're just sitting there with their arms crossed or playing on their phones. Also, if you're going to have your own room bring some alcohol with you so you cut down on costs.
AmericanPi
11-02-23, 03:56
Better be getting bb or getting ripped off.Bb with an HK girl?
You'll be getting other acronyms too: hpv, hiv, hsv.
Cocr Brotheler
11-02-23, 05:00
Last time I went was a year ago and I've never been asked for more than a 100. In the past 3 years I've only paid 120 once and that was because it was past 4 am and I think the chick knew I was limited with options. I'm super picky and try to always leave with a 9/10 in my opinion. I've heard the girls quote older, fat, bad hygiene, drunk dudes higher prices to avoid them so I think a lot has to do with how you present yourself but 150 yikes! Would you consider yourself unattractive? Or is it really that high now? What did they use to quote you last year?Please re-read my post, was $120 (not $150) for a really hot one (9/10) and that was 2015 during the day not drinking, not fat, smelly or ugly. Just a random higher quote.
Last trip in February this year and November last year getting $80-$100 for nice chicas. I have not yet paid more than $100.
I completely understand that Hong Kong is the best in Mexico, however, are there any strip clubs /"fun houses" that anyone can recommend in other states in Mexico? ˇMil gracias!
Aviator400
11-04-23, 05:47
I completely understand that Hong Kong is the best in Mexico, however, are there any strip clubs /"fun houses" that anyone can recommend in other states in Mexico? Mil gracias!Many. I have had good times in Mexicali (the best), LOS Algodones (second best), Nogales (near the bottom), Ciudad Juarez (the worst).
The Mexicali clubs are a bit harder to find, as they are scattered about the city and there isn't a lot of information on them on the forums.
I know a little bit about it, in part because I met an HK BG visiting from Mexicali and eventually met her there and she took me around to a few clubs, including her home club.
And IMO, HK WAS the best. All the new rules pushing the greed factor has it rivling a USA clip joint.
I completely understand that Hong Kong is the best in Mexico, however, are there any strip clubs /"fun houses" that anyone can recommend in other states in Mexico? Mil gracias!I'the advise you to just read all the trip reply from Tomjackin. He just wrote a report from a place near Veracruz. He's been traveling to every date in Mexico and visiting the clubs. Now Mexico has some very high end clubs that will cost you a lot just to drink with girls or you can find some dirty places that some guys prefer.
Personally I like Guadalajara because it's a nice city with lots of clubs. Personally Cesars is my favorite but it's completely different compared to Tijuana.
Anthony2023
11-04-23, 23:18
Please re-read my post, was $120 (not $150) for a really hot one (9/10) and that was 2015 during the day not drinking, not fat, smelly or ugly. Just a random higher quote.
Last trip in February this year and November last year getting $80-$100 for nice chicas. I have not yet paid more than $100.You're correct, I thought I was replying to the guy who said $150. My question was meant for him.
Last time I went was a year ago and I've never been asked for more than a 100. In the past 3 years I've only paid 120 once and that was because it was past 4 am and I think the chick knew I was limited with options. I'm super picky and try to always leave with a 9/10 in my opinion. I've heard the girls quote older, fat, bad hygiene, drunk dudes higher prices to avoid them so I think a lot has to do with how you present yourself but 150 yikes! Would you consider yourself unattractive? Or is it really that high now? What did they use to quote you last year?Some girls do quote $150 just because they think they are some of the best looking in HK, only because of that, just remember Zulma or even Escobar in HK trying to rip off whoever they felt like. $120 is becoming a norm because of the current exchange rate, remember that $100 is like 1700 pesos not 2000 anymore, so it makes sense from their part to raise the dollar price, so save some pesos and then change it to dollars, you will be saving in pesos but worth it after you have been going for 2-3 times then you get a free arriba if you save your pesos. That is the way I see it, been doing it to get escorts lately.
Stopped by HK the other day on a whim not really looking to do any arribas, more so just to stop by and see if I could happen to bump into any girls that haven't been around in a while (didn't end up doing so). A big guy approached me and asked if I visited the club often and was picking my brain on other stuff about HK. He said he's from Northern California and doesn't get the chance to come down a lot. He asked how much sessions with the girls cost, which I assumed he already knew but was interested in how I would answer. I told him it depended on who he talked to but I said roughly in the 100 range with 120 being on the higher end. He goes FUCK, I GOT RIPPED OFF! I asked how much he paid and he said 150. I said, yeah, if the girl thinks she can get that much out of you, she will. He told me at least she was super hot so it wasn't too bad. I told him to counter whatever they quoted him with 100 and if for whatever reason he had to go above that to not go over 120 and to try to negotiate extras. Even though he was a big guy, he wasn't morbidly obese or anything and I have seen worse looking guys receive amazing service from some of the girls. While we were chatting a couple of girls I have already vetted passed by so I recommend them to him since he was looking for another trip upstairs and offered to call them over. They were on the thinner side and he was looking for more of a curvy girl though so he said he was going to wait a little longer for his next pop. He thanked me for the info and we went our separate ways. I passed by Chicago and not much was going on. The hot tub had been taken out from the back for whatever reason. Stopped by Tropical as well and not much there either. I did see a 19 year old girl I have talked to before but she was busy drinking. I also saw a girl with huge natural boobs that used to work at adelitas but I've already gotten all my use out of her back when adelitas was open LOL. I went back to HK to see if anyone new had popped up but it was basically more of the same. Ended up deciding to call it a night.
A big guy approached me and asked if I visited the club often and was picking my brain on other stuff about HK. He said he's from Northern California and doesn't get the chance to come down a lot. He asked how much sessions with the girls cost, which I assumed he already knew but was interested in how I would answer. I told him it depended on who he talked to but I said roughly in the 100 range with 120 being on the higher end. He goes FUCK, I GOT RIPPED OFF! I asked how much he paid and he said 150. I said, yeah, if the girl thinks she can get that much out of you, she will. He told me at least she was super hot so it wasn't too bad. I told him to counter whatever they quoted him with 100 and if for whatever reason he had to go above that to not go over 120 and to try to negotiate extras. Even though he was a big guy, he wasn't morbidly obese or anything and I have seen worse looking guys receive amazing service from some of the girls.I think many on this board assume most guys in the bar read this site when in reality it's a very small number. It would be interesting to ask that guy how he heard about GK and what he thought he was supposed to pay.
The girl at TB is that the one you talked to before and said she was beautiful and should be at HK. I'm tempted to go take a look for her since I like to drink in TB.
I think many on this board assume most guys in the bar read this site when in reality it's a very small number. It would be interesting to ask that guy how he heard about GK and what he thought he was supposed to pay.
The girl at TB is that the one you talked to before and said she was beautiful and should be at HK. I'm tempted to go take a look for her since I like to drink in TB.
Yeah that's one of them. She had a different hairstyle this time so it took me a second to realize it was her but she still very much looked on the younger side. I also wrote about a different 20 year old who I bought a couple drinks for one day and got a little action from. I only saw her one other time after that as well but she was drinking with a client and she waved at me from a distance.
The irony about the guy I talked to in HK is that he said he had been there before but it had been a couple years since he's not from the area. He said he remembers the girls not charging as much as this time on his past visits. Maybe he got quoted figures on the higher end because he was a big guy. A lot of girls will size guys up and try to squeeze every possible dollar out of them, especially if you're not willing to negotiate.
How hard is it to score Greek in HK? I'm interested and had asked about four chicas but all said no. It's not easy to navigate, as I'm not about to go from girl to girl asking if she's down. That would probably make me look pretty creepy to all of them. Man, I wish they each had like a menu written down. . haha. Anyone ever score Greek in HK and have some advice about how they went about it?
It is fairly easy, all you have to do is ask and be prepared for the uncharge. One trick is ask a mesero you have been sitting with to find you a chica that does it and see what it comes up with and I say again don't be surprised if a girl ask for additional $$.
How hard is it to score Greek in HK? I'm interested and had asked about four chicas but all said no. It's not easy to navigate, as I'm not about to go from girl to girl asking if she's down. That would probably make me look pretty creepy to all of them. Man, I wish they each had like a menu written down. . haha. Anyone ever score Greek in HK and have some advice about how they went about it?
SlickVick0303
11-16-23, 19:36
How hard is it to score Greek in HK? I'm interested and had asked about four chicas but all said no. It's not easy to navigate, as I'm not about to go from girl to girl asking if she's down. That would probably make me look pretty creepy to all of them. Man, I wish they each had like a menu written down. . haha. Anyone ever score Greek in HK and have some advice about how they went about it?I'm sure it's possible if you just ask enough girls or have one referred to you by a girl herself or a mesero as Zhagolo mentioned.
On another note. I have used this question not to get it but to push a girl away that I don't want to session with. If they are being pushy on arriba and you just want to cut ties, I will just say. I am looking for "el chiquito" how much would that be? They 99% of the time will say emphatically oh no! Then I say. Well sorry then but it's what I am looking for. They quickly scatter LOL.
Note I only do this with pushy girls I have no problem blacklisting me from there on out.
If you want greek. Might be easier to go the escort route.
LuvMexicanas
11-16-23, 21:18
I'm sure it's possible if you just ask enough girls or have one referred to you by a girl herself or a mesero as Zhagolo mentioned.
On another note. I have used this question not to get it but to push a girl away that I don't want to session with. If they are being pushy on arriba and you just want to cut ties, I will just say. I am looking for "el chiquito" how much would that be? They 99% of the time will say emphatically oh no! Then I say. Well sorry then but it's what I am looking for. They quickly scatter LOL.
Note I only do this with pushy girls I have no problem blacklisting me from there on out.
If you want greek. Might be easier to go the escort route.If you really want to see a chica bolt, simply say you're out of money.
Theo TheMonger
11-17-23, 04:16
Hi All,
How has your experience been on Sunday night, Monday and Tuesday nights?
Are there that fewer ladies? Are they that less hot?
Thanks,
Theo.
How hard is it to score Greek in HK? I'm interested and had asked about four chicas but all said no. It's not easy to navigate, as I'm not about to go from girl to girl asking if she's down. That would probably make me look pretty creepy to all of them. Man, I wish they each had like a menu written down. . haha. Anyone ever score Greek in HK and have some advice about how they went about it?I got anal from a HK girl (see report below), but as you say, it was not easy for me to procure in Mexico. If it's anal you like, then you need to go to Brazil. It's an anal lover's paradise on earth! And the German FKKs are good for getting it too.
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Had a 1st visit that was real fun on Thurs 1 am-330 am. Late start and short visit which messed my nerves, was putting so much pressure on finding the 1 perfect girl.
I saw maybe 2 of 3, a good handful of 8's. I like hot, fit, pretty face, 20's Instagram model types. Plastic is fine, as long as it's done well. Seemed only 30% of the plastics had both tits and ass that had great jobs.
Ended up with a cute, 8, all natural, early 20's Monterrey girl with braces, great perky large see cups and an easy finish in doggy gripping her slim curvy waist. For 120, good service. As we walked to room I still wanted to go after a few plastic bimbos but I had to get ready to go back to border.
I got approached by 1 girl, very flirty, great pouty lips, handsy but wouldn't budge from 150. I did the honorable hold the at 100 and she declined respectfully. It was tempting, I don't want to fuck up the HK econ but at the same time it was considerable effort to make the trip happen and it's far cheaper than my locals in USA.
There were about 15 girls I didn't approach and punked out. Half weren't on the floor. I assumed if she's sitting to the side it's for good reason, but apparently good results can happen from anyone who approaches?
If so, next I'm just going to straight for the 9's. I need a few of those to get out of my system.
Spent 304 for the whole night.
Aviator400
11-18-23, 02:53
Had a 1st visit that was real fun on Thurs 1 am-330 am. Late start and short visit which messed my nerves, was putting so much pressure on finding the 1 perfect girl.
I saw maybe 2 of 3, a good handful of 8's. I like hot, fit, pretty face, 20's Instagram model types. Plastic is fine, as long as it's done well. Seemed only 30% of the plastics had both tits and ass that had great jobs.
Ended up with a cute, 8, all natural, early 20's Monterrey girl with braces, great perky large see cups and an easy finish in doggy gripping her slim curvy waist. For 120, good service. As we walked to room I still wanted to go after a few plastic bimbos but I had to get ready to go back to border.
I got approached by 1 girl, very flirty, great pouty lips, handsy but wouldn't budge from 150. I did the honorable hold the at 100 and she declined respectfully. It was tempting, I don't want to fuck up the HK econ but at the same time it was considerable effort to make the trip happen and it's far cheaper than my locals in USA.
There were about 15 girls I didn't approach and punked out. Half weren't on the floor. I assumed if she's sitting to the side it's for good reason, but apparently good results can happen from anyone who approaches?
If so, next I'm just going to straight for the 9's. I need a few of those to get out of my system.
Spent 304 for the whole night.Cannot see any puta being worth more than $100 unless they are offering deluxe services, and then $120 is the limit.
Almost all of the worst fucks that I have had were trophy girls with 9/10 looks.
You did well in the short time you were there.
How hard is it to score Greek in HK? I'm interested and had asked about four chicas but all said no. It's not easy to navigate, as I'm not about to go from girl to girl asking if she's down. That would probably make me look pretty creepy to all of them. Man, I wish they each had like a menu written down. . haha. Anyone ever score Greek in HK and have some advice about how they went about it?
I have done anal with several HK girls but it's after we have gotten to know each other and then they will give you the green light usually at no extra charge. I have also gotten quoted fees on the higher end voluntarily on their part in which they mention anal is included. It's not something I'm willing to pay extra for so if a girl doesn't want to include it then I'm good.
I used to get offered anal a lot from the Colombian and Venezuelan girls from Adelitas back when they were open. Several of them have moved over to Chicago, so just ask for a Colombian or Venezuelan over there and I'm sure many of them will be willing to accommodate. For whatever reason it's not as taboo for them.
Hi All,
How has your experience been on Sunday night, Monday and Tuesday nights?
Are there that fewer ladies? Are they that less hot?
Thanks,
Theo.I wouldn't say they're less hot. It's kind of hit or miss. Whichever night you go there will be plenty of girls. Don't just stick to HK though, check out Chicago and pop in at Tropical as well.
Had a 1st visit that was real fun on Thurs 1 am-330 am. Late start and short visit which messed my nerves, was putting so much pressure on finding the 1 perfect girl.
I saw maybe 2 of 3, a good handful of 8's. I like hot, fit, pretty face, 20's Instagram model types. Plastic is fine, as long as it's done well. Seemed only 30% of the plastics had both tits and ass that had great jobs.
Ended up with a cute, 8, all natural, early 20's Monterrey girl with braces, great perky large see cups and an easy finish in doggy gripping her slim curvy waist. For 120, good service. As we walked to room I still wanted to go after a few plastic bimbos but I had to get ready to go back to border.
I got approached by 1 girl, very flirty, great pouty lips, handsy but wouldn't budge from 150. I did the honorable hold the at 100 and she declined respectfully. It was tempting, I don't want to fuck up the HK econ but at the same time it was considerable effort to make the trip happen and it's far cheaper than my locals in USA.
There were about 15 girls I didn't approach and punked out. Half weren't on the floor. I assumed if she's sitting to the side it's for good reason, but apparently good results can happen from anyone who approaches?
If so, next I'm just going to straight for the 9's. I need a few of those to get out of my system.
Spent 304 for the whole night.Congrats on your first successful visit. That girl you went with sounds like a fun girl I was with awhile back. Has shoulder length hair I think her club name started with a J. She was fun to drink with giving me a lap dance the whole time. She drank to much and passed out on me unfortunately. Hopefully if it's the same girl she will be around on my next visit.
Congrats on your first successful visit. That girl you went with sounds like a fun girl I was with awhile back. Has shoulder length hair I think her club name started with a J. She was fun to drink with giving me a lap dance the whole time. She drank to much and passed out on me unfortunately. Hopefully if it's the same girl she will be around on my next visit.It could be her LOL. She was very sweet and bubbly, and let me fondle on the booth.
2nd visit to HK, Sat 1 am-3 am. Time restricted due to work obligations. Still had a fun time. The club was near fully open rooms so that dispersed the girls, seem less but just spread out. Definitely more dudes than Thurs by 30%, not terrible. Talent still had some stunners which were seemed claimed by that late.
Still landed thus short blonde Mexican, like a Mexican Kristen Bell with the pornstar enhancements (BBL, tits, lips) but they were done very well, soft not lumpy no diaper butt, physically a 9. 5 to me as she was in shape too. I expected a rejection bc she turned away a few guys quick for unknown reason. She seemed cold but was doing a lap so I caught her. I don't like to drink so I just approached her, tipped $1 and asked how much for arriba. She said $150, dammit, but was fine with me groping. Struggled with small talk with my weak Spanish. After a minute I said if 100 ill go arriba right now and she agreed surprisingly. Went to room, session was good for 1st time considering the cold approach. She was involved too, had some broken pillow talk. Barely spent $200 the whole visit. Got her number. Planning on Thanksgiving break to have a whole free day without obligations and stay at Cascadas. I overanalyze girls so I'd like a few more hours each visit.
I wish I knew what made her agree yet some slightly less hot pornstar bodies wouldn't budge from 150.
More reason to improve my Spanish. I think my approach will be the $1 tip talk. Getting a table gets me hassled from meseros and opens me up to paying for drinks that'd eat the savings on arriba.
It could be her LOL. She was very sweet and bubbly, and let me fondle on the booth.
2nd visit to HK, Sat 1 am-3 am. Time restricted due to work obligations. Still had a fun time. The club was near fully open rooms so that dispersed the girls, seem less but just spread out. Definitely more dudes than Thurs by 30%, not terrible. Talent still had some stunners which were seemed claimed by that late.
Still landed thus short blonde Mexican, like a Mexican Kristen Bell with the pornstar enhancements (BBL, tits, lips) but they were done very well, soft not lumpy no diaper butt, physically a 9. 5 to me as she was in shape too. I expected a rejection bc she turned away a few guys quick for unknown reason. She seemed cold but was doing a lap so I caught her. I don't like to drink so I just approached her, tipped $1 and asked how much for arriba. She said $150, dammit, but was fine with me groping. Struggled with small talk with my weak Spanish. After a minute I said if 100 ill go arriba right now and she agreed surprisingly. Went to room, session was good for 1st time considering the cold approach. She was involved too, had some broken pillow talk. Barely spent $200 the whole visit. Got her number. Planning on Thanksgiving break to have a whole free day without obligations and stay at Cascadas. I overanalyze girls so I'd like a few more hours each visit..Generally girls that just started their shift tend to search for a nice $150 home-run, especially from a monger face they have never seen before. But as the day rolls along and they are not finding a newbie to fleece, they adjust their pricing.
Generally girls that just started their shift tend to search for a nice $150 home-run, especially from a monger face they have never seen before. But as the day rolls along and they are not finding a newbie to fleece, they adjust their pricing.Love & agree with your explanation regarding dynamic and surge pricing for sessions.
I have seen the same thing with street gals too. Friday night prices are often higher than Wed night with streetgirls.
DonCarlos1234
11-21-23, 10:49
A visit Sunday 12/17 - Thursday 12/20 - will there be enough girls to justify a trip?
Aviator400
11-21-23, 14:21
A visit Sunday 12/17 - Thursday 12/20 - will there be enough girls to justify a trip?Always. Seems the monger / puta ratio is always in balance.
A visit Sunday 12/17 - Thursday 12/20 - will there be enough girls to justify a trip?In the past, it is the quality that drops instead of the quantity. Regular bar girls tend to start to fly out the week before Christmas. But I saw a lot of street girls trying to work HK in their place so I think HK used street girls as fillers. HK probably ease up a lot on their fichas daily quota for the holidays.
A visit Sunday 12/17 - Thursday 12/20 - will there be enough girls to justify a trip?You will be good up until the 24th then things get very slow until after the 25th.
Generally girls that just started their shift tend to search for a nice $150 home-run, especially from a monger face they have never seen before. But as the day rolls along and they are not finding a newbie to fleece, they adjust their pricing.Are their standard shift times? Always wondered how memorable quiet, passing through customers are.
Coming Thanksgiving for mainly HK overnight. Feel free to DM if you want to wingman or eat.
AmericanPi
11-23-23, 15:55
Coming Thanksgiving for mainly HK overnight. Feel free to DM if you want to wingman or eat.Wish I could trade. Have to spend thanksgiving playing the nice husband at the in laws. It's exhausting and annoying making small talk.
Share a report on what Turkey day is like at HK.
Are their standard shift times? Always wondered how memorable quiet, passing through customers are.The girls works different shifts. There is a day shift. And a night shift that overlaps for maybe an hour at about 8 pm or so? I remembered before Covid that they had a time card system where the gals are signed in and out to ensure they are credited with hours.
Monger Longer
11-24-23, 06:22
This was my first time in HK and taking the land border into Mexico. It couldn't have gone smoother after doing a good amount of reading here and in other places to know what to expect. I'll be detailed for anyone new like I was. Drove down from SD around 2 p. Parked in the lot atop the hill behind Jack in the Box. $8 admission for 8 hrs. Used my passport card, made it over the border without breaking stride. Walked the path, through the exit gates, right past the taxis, around the corner and up the street to the Zona Shuttle office. I saw on a YouTube video that it's past the gate and across the parking lot, it wasn't explicitly labeled, but there was only one option for a door and they ushered me onto the main street and into the Zona waiting room next door. Three minutes later I was in the back of the limo (getting smiles from some girls waiting in line to go to the US and odd looks from others, haha) and five minutes after that I was in front of HK. Tipped the driver $5.
As soon as I stepped into the Cascadas staircase I knew I was in the right place from the smell. That mix of perfume with a little bit of residual cigarette smell. Maybe it's just me. It's Pavlovian. Smells like hookers. It's the same smell all over the world. I went through the metal detector as the security officer searched my bag. I reserved the Deluxe for $85, but decided to grab the Deluxe Double for a little more space at $100 paid with card. I got the room so I'd have a place to chill and I planned on taking multiple girls. More on that later. I handed over $30 in cash for the deposit and I was offered condoms before I went up to my room. The hotel itself is pretty big and everything looks the same, so it took a minute to get my bearings before I found my room. Let's just say that it's more a warehouse for fucking than a hotel, but it's lot bigger than it looks from the outside. The inside of the room was red and black modern Vegas style. Plenty of towels. Bed was surprisingly comfortable with memory foam mattresses. Four channels of porn and premium channels in Spanish if you're interested.
I freshened up and organized my cash before heading down. Another metal detector and body pat down before I get my first look behind the black curtain. Now, I've been to my fair share of FKKs in Germany and Austria, but it always takes my breath away walking into a room with 50+ naked or scantily clad women. I'm overwhelmed, so I take a lap around the entire club to get a feel for the layout. Hell, I may have taken two. Finally I decide I need a beer to relax and get the meseros off my back. And to be fair, every encounter I had with the staff, except for the checkout lady at the end, was great. Yeah, I know they're being nice for tips, but at least they put some effort into it, unlike all the entitled turds I have to deal with in the US service industry who want something for nothing. Everyone was genuinely nice and helpful whenever I had a question. Also, I'm a Spanish speaker, but they all spoke English very well and conducted business in English unless you switched to Spanish. So anyhow, I get my beer at the bar and have a seat watching the girls on the bar and the girls in the middle dancing. Halfway through the beer I make my way to the back where there's a soap or whip cream show happening on the stage. I catch the eye of one from the end of the ramp and she starts putting on a show for me. By now I'm done with my beer and just kind of hanging on to it as a decoy, making laps, checking out the ladies, and having a squeeze or two. I thought I had one picked out for a ficha, but I wanted another beer first and I found another seat at the back bar, so I figured I'd sit and watch a little while longer. This was around 4:45 p and my plan was to session, grab some food, and session again. I wasn't trying to rush since I had nowhere to be and a room.
As I'm sitting at the bar and beautiful, tallish, chica flaca con curvas with big round glasses comes over to me and she's just my type. Early to mid-20's, very cute face and sweet demeanor in addition to the smoking body. Corazon is her name and she wears a necklace with a heart on it. We chat for a few minutes and she grinds on me as as I feel her up and I put a dollar into her bra for her time. She asks for a ficha and I agree because she's been so affectionate for so long without really asking for anything up to that point and I like what she's doing and saying. I'm glad I did. She was slow to drink her drink and was not stingy with the affection. We keep conversing in Spanish and start negotiating. She asks how long, 30 or 60? Con dos chicas? Undoubtably a pro. I like to take an hour because I enjoy the foreplay and enjoying her body before diving in and I don't even consider CBJ. She throws out 250/60 with BBBJ and I manage to get her down to 180 and tip her 20 at the end because she delivered hard on the intimacy and let me lick and poke everywhere I wanted in all positions without looking at the clock. We exit out the back, I tip the robe guy $1 and we make our way upstairs. This is one of my favorite moments in our hobby. I still remember my first time and admiring this beautiful woman I was about to go smash. It never gets old. In the room she delivers on all my desires from pace, to attitude, to participation, to allowing me whatever I asked for. She is instantly one of my top five all time. I finish and we lay there talking and touching a little while longer before taking a shower together where there's more talking and touching. It was all quite enjoyable. By this point we're well over an hour into it. Maybe and hour and a half? As we're finishing getting dressed there's a knock at the door and she shoos him away before we say our goodbyes. 10/10 would go again if I came back.
As I mentioned, the plan was to grab some food and session again. I decided that this was my first time and I didn't want to go roaming around Tijuana or in the alley this time around. Especially with reports that the policia are upping their extortion efforts for the holidays. I go to the Azul bar and grab some food. Is there another Azul restaurant on the property or is the entirety of it the bar and a few tables in a small space? Either way, I saddle up to the bar and order the chicken fajitas. I'm sorry, but it was damn near inedible. It tasted like, maybe propane? And lacked any spices or flavor like cumin, cilantro, or chili pepper. Very bland and the other strange flavor I couldn't put my finger on. After the meal I wasn't feeling well. Not outright bad, but not well. So I went back to my room. It was at this point that I figured I just had one of the better sessions of all time and I'm not feeling up to another one any time soon, so I check out and consider it a victory. I think if I'd had a little weed with me it would've settled my stomach and I don't know how another session could've been better than the one I just had. So even though I spent a little more on the room than I needed to, I'm happy and know where to adjust for next time. Again, everyone was really helpful on the way out, but the woman at reception was a little brusque and rude compared to all the fellas working there who were extremely nice and helpful. No big deal, though. The bros kept bringing the positive vibes.
The security guard gives me a business card for a free ride to the border, I take it to the valet outside, he radios someone, we cross the street together, hop in a van and five minutes later I'm in line to get back to the US. The area is not very well lit and there are some vendors around. It looks sketchy, but the line isn't too long and I see the SENTRI sign, so I bypass a dozen people to get to that lane and then it's clear sailing all the way back into the US. I use my Global Entry when I get to customs, the officer takes my photo, and I'm back in mi pais. It took all of five minutes, most of it walking, to get back across the border. Next thing you know I'm back on the 5 smoking a joint, heading home around 9 p.
The only thing I can compare HK to is a German FKK Saunaclub for sheer quantity and quality, but it's different. At an FKK there's showers and robes and it's a little more laid back. In HK you show up like a strip club in all your normal clothes and it's a party. I've been to FKKs that are more party-like, but not like HK. And obviously HK is all about the Mexican gals whereas in an FKK you're going to find mostly white girls from Romania, although I hooked up with a Brazilian chica once. All in all, I really enjoyed HK and will definitely return. Hope this was helpful to any newbies to HK or Zona Norte. It's a good thing I don't live near Tijuana or I'd be here all the time.
Aviator400
11-24-23, 15:55
Enjoyed your review. I am a seven year vet and it is always fun to relive my first time through the eyes of a newbie.
KetoAndKettle
11-24-23, 23:57
Excellent trip report. I agree with you about HK. The issues I've had with meseros was when I should have not really have been in Tijuana in the first place, like between being employed and trying not to spend money. When you're in that mindframe, stay home LOL.
As far as your FKK experience, have you ever been to that place called FKK Globe, I think is what it's called, in Switzerland?
The only thing I can compare HK to is a German FKK Saunaclub for sheer quantity and quality, but it's different. At an FKK there's showers and robes and it's a little more laid back. In HK you show up like a strip club in all your normal clothes and it's a party. I've been to FKKs that are more party-like, but not like HK. And obviously HK is all about the Mexican gals whereas in an FKK you're going to find mostly white girls from Romania, although I hooked up with a Brazilian chica once. All in all, I really enjoyed HK and will definitely return. Hope this was helpful to any newbies to HK or Zona Norte. It's a good thing I don't live near Tijuana or I'd be here all the time.
Turkey night was thinking it would be slow for the holiday so figured to go and see if my drunk girl was back to work. Was shocked how crowded it was and they had all parts of the club open which was a first for me since I usually go on slower nights. I walked around looking for the girl but no luck, ran into one of my meseros that served us that night and he was laughing about her and hasn't seen her since.
So with the place packed I found about 3 girls I liked. Spent lots of time walking around trying to find them. Finally ran into one and went to drink. Fun girl who was cool with drinking and was ordering the wines but she drank slow so I wasn't worried about it. Both of us drank to much and when she realized it was 7 am she had to leave. Still had a fun time.
Went to Tijuana / HK on Thanksgiving for my 1st overnight. Landed at SD about midnight, Ubered to border, zero line, and got lucky with the shuttle being in the 1st lot with the red shack. Was nice since I had a small roller carryon that screams Gringo on vacation to all the cabs. Stayed at Rizo, checked in at 130 am and they honored the Wed "night" 40% off discount from the Tropical Bar coupon. You have to print it for them to accept. I got a double suite, mainly just to not feel cramped and to not regret going smaller. I didn't use the 1st nigjt with a jacuzzi, and the 2nd night moved to another with a balcony instead. Didn't use those amenties. The Rizo I was impressed, building felt sturdy and not a dinged up working girl house. Plus it was quiet away from the club noise. It takes 5 min to bring girls from HK to cross street and all the stairs. But I like that, gave more private and noise free time to vibe as they hold onto you in their heels. My Spanish is weak and the club is loud.
The action. 6 arribas in like 26 hours and 2 with MSOG. Part because I was horned up from no sex 1 week prior intentionally, part me wanting to leave it ALL at HK, and part is the Euphoria high of being in that adult playground. No judgment, everyone's there and paid by you getting laid.
The times. I was there every 4 hours and would spend 2 hours or so looking for a girl. After arribas I'd chill out, shower, nap, eat. I never left the block beyond Senda Norte, Oxxo, and a walk during the day to eyeball HK.
The shifts. There was always 6 or 7 free girls that I was into. I have particular tastes, a perfectionist since I want to make every arriba count. I'd say 75% of the girls I'd willingly fuck for free, so I focused on the top 20%. Midnight had the most dudes, but I didn't mind too much as it let me get a breather and scope girls out from a distance. Surprisingly 4 am and 12:30 pm noon had the best ratio of free hot girls.
My arribas. 6 girls, all had prereqs of being 20's, big tits and juicy ass. I didn't aim for enhanced girls, but most in club were, as well as my arribas. Some girls have some bad diaper butt firm lumpy BBLs where the legs don't match the ass. Notable arribas was a dime redhead Kendra Lust in face & body, another was a loving girl next door with a traditional ethnic Mexicana indigenous face (eyes almost Asian looking) who deep throated, kissed, gave me multiple pops. Every arriba filled their niche.
What an amazing time. Even at 5 am on my 26th hour as I'm taking my 6th arriba to Rizo (had literally came back to HK about 10 min prior from my 5th arriba & showered). There were still like 6 or 7 new baddies I was cranking my neck for to come right back. 1. 5 days was plenty and likely my future strategy. Come in late for the big traffic, get an early morning girl, pass out, 2 waves of day girls, and hit my stride by early eve.
I too have experienced elsewhere Cancun / Tulum escorts, southeast USA stripclubs, Montreal strip and agencies, Amsterdam window girls, Barcelona brothels, Bogota red light, but man HK does have its own place to shine. To me it's strength is its discretion (no wonders why you fly to SD), it's well established with several forums, it's not hard to get to once you do it once, and the biggest aspect is its convenience AND access that I've seen nowhere else. Brothels and windows will die down early morning, agencies have limited hours. Bogota had arguably hotter girls (if you like Mex or Col features more) and they are at least half the price if not one third but BOGs red-light is far sketchier. Can't wait to return to HK already looking up cheap flights to blast out a weekend.
Monger Longer
11-28-23, 15:18
Yeah, I went once. It's big and a little more expensive because it's Switzerland. It's not my favorite FKK, but it's one of the cooler structured ones with different themed rooms and worth a visit. Across that region the girls don't change much, so for my money I prefer Sharks in Darmstadt, GER. It's big, great selection (IMHO), super easy to get to from the Frankfurt Hbf or airport and the prices are a little calmer than CH. A place on my list that looks intriguing sort of near Globe is Wellcum in AUS near the ITA border. Also kind of expensive, but I've heard great things and the selection looks a little different than it's northern counterparts. Real Italian girls! Unlike the Ro girls in GER Fkks who say they're Italian. No shame. It's business and they still have what I'm looking for. I like the idea of riding my motorcycle through the mountains and then staying there for a couple overnighters.
All said, HK is special for Americans like myself because it's so close, it's somewhat regulated, easy to get to once you know the deal, and has those European prices, which are not Asian prices, but are much, much better than American prices. Which I don't have much experience with and frankly am not too interested in anymore based on price, politics, and general setup. I'm willing to pay a liiiittle extra to get the experience I want and do it in a way where I'm not looking over my shoulder for anything. Plus, who doesn't like going to another country?? It's also a hell of a lot more discreet than, "Hey friends and family, I'm going to Thailand for two weeks by myself!" which is not entirely indicative of what we're doing, but most people's imaginations go exactly there when you say Thailand. GER / AUS / SWI / CZ are great, and before HK were my top choice for mongering, but it takes a minute to get there. If you can find 4+ hours away from whatever you're doing in San Diego, you can make this happen and be back without missing a beat. And yeah, your experience will probably coincide with how much money you're willing to spend. If you've got money, they're as friendly and accommodating as can be. Good luck out there, brothers.
Excellent trip report. I agree with you about HK. The issues I've had with meseros was when I should have not really have been in Tijuana in the first place, like between being employed and trying not to spend money. When you're in that mindframe, stay home LOL.
As far as your FKK experience, have you ever been to that place called FKK Globe, I think is what it's called, in Switzerland?
KetoAndKettle
11-28-23, 22:59
100% about the point of HK having the advantage of proximity. On so many levels. Lived in san diego in 2016, and want to move back just for that.
Would need to figure out how to live in a house instead of apartments if I did. At the very least, am going to move back to boise from twin falls so that getting there is a little easier.
Yeah, I went once. It's big and a little more expensive because it's Switzerland. It's not my favorite FKK, but it's one of the cooler structured ones with different themed rooms and worth a visit. Across that region the girls don't change much, so for my money I prefer Sharks in Darmstadt, GER. It's big, great selection (IMHO), super easy to get to from the Frankfurt Hbf or airport and the prices are a little calmer than CH. A place on my list that looks intriguing sort of near Globe is Wellcum in AUS near the ITA border. Also kind of expensive, but I've heard great things and the selection looks a little different than it's northern counterparts. Real Italian girls! Unlike the Ro girls in GER Fkks who say they're Italian. No shame. It's business and they still have what I'm looking for. I like the idea of riding my motorcycle through the mountains and then staying there for a couple overnighters.
All said, HK is special for Americans like myself because it's so close, it's somewhat regulated, easy to get to once you know the deal, and has those European prices, which are not Asian prices, but are much, much better than American prices. Which I don't have much experience with and frankly am not too interested in anymore based on price, politics, and general setup. I'm willing to pay a liiiittle extra to get the experience I want and do it in a way where I'm not looking over my shoulder for anything. Plus, who doesn't like going to another country?? It's also a hell of a lot more discreet than, "Hey friends and family, I'm going to Thailand for two weeks by myself!" which is not entirely indicative of what we're doing, but most people's imaginations go exactly there when you say Thailand. GER / AUS / SWI / CZ are great, and before HK were my top choice for mongering, but it takes a minute to get there. If you can find 4+ hours away from whatever you're doing in San Diego, you can make this happen and be back without missing a beat. And yeah, your experience will probably coincide with how much money you're willing to spend. If you've got money, they're as friendly and accommodating as can be. Good luck out there, brothers.
Aviator400
11-29-23, 14:43
100% about the point of HK having the advantage of proximity. On so many levels. Lived in san diego in 2016, and want to move back just for that.
Would need to figure out how to live in a house instead of apartments if I did. At the very least, am going to move back to boise from twin falls so that getting there is a little easier.Why not live in Tijuana at one-third the price of SD? Met a number of mongers who work in the USA and live in Mexico. Even met one who works in Cańada. Much of his work is online or on the road.
Captain Solo
11-29-23, 15:11
This girl looks hot.
Many tall, pale girls work in HK every night.
The most popular stripper is Ashley, tall, pale, slim, classy, pretty with a high nose. She was taken off HK by Narco Bob for a GF a couple months, then was dumped and came back stripping. She works hard every day, starting in early afternoon until midnight. You cannot miss her. Sorry I cannot find her pics.
A few other tall, pale, fun, pretty girls, some beautiful blondes are really fun, like blonde Francesca and pink Bonnie in the pics.
Tall, pale Bobby AKA Ariana from Sinaloa speaks good English and Japanese, worked in Tokyo's hostess clubs. She's fun, flirtsy and very horny in bed. She does a lot more than most HK girls and will give you a wild ride in bed.
Captain Solo
11-29-23, 15:14
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Went back to meet up with another one of my regulars OTC. We were in my room for a couple hours, had some fun, headed down to Tropical for some drinks. Fucking place was packed to my surprise, seemed like a Friday or Saturday night. Noticed a blonde I had made out in HK with now working here. Probably got sent over as punishment. As far as the other ladies, didn't see too many hot ones around. We went back to my room for another couple hours before she had to get back home.
When she left I did a quick run through of Chicago. Not a lot of hot girls around either. Was hoping to run into a couple I saw on Sunday night but they probably took the night off. Headed to HK and it was busy. Spotted a super hot spinner, a 9 in my book dancing on the bar. She looks like she could be anywhere from 19-21. I have had my eye on this girl for a while but have never approached her. I was feeling like I was up for another round before I headed back home so I tipped her and felt her up. Didn't feel like wasting time with fichas so I got straight to the point. She quoted me $150 and was standing firm. Since she's so young and hot I could picture a lot of mongers just giving her the money without negotiating hoping to have a good time and getting this chick in cowgirl or doggy would have me ready to bust in 30 seconds flat, that's how hot she is. I told her damn that's a lot, does it at least include BBFS / BBBJ and she giggled and said no, supposedly she doesn't do that. I said well damn, you're hot, but I got $120 for you and it has to at least include DFK if I'm going to give you that much. She said she doesn't do that either but that supposedly she would allow LFK for me and that the lowest she would go is 140. I smiled and shook my head and told her maybe I would catch her later. She kept dancing in the same area for a while and didn't see any other guy snatch her up. Later on she was off to the side just chatting with another chica. Here's a very young, super hot chick, not making money because she's dead set on charging premium prices. Oh well.
I was still kind of in the mood for something else, I eventually bumped into a pretty girl with great looking man mades. She was probably mid 20's. I tipped her and she started rubbing on my dick immediately. As we kept talking and feeling each other up she started giving me kisses on the lips but nothing crazy. Initially she quoted me 120. When she sensed my hesitation she dropped it to 100 but only because she liked me and was feeling very horny supposedly. I asked if she would give me a BBBJ and she said she doesn't do that and that no other girl there would give me that especially for 100. I laughed and told her, not true, speaking from experience I would have to disagree with you. She told me she would DFK but that's about it. As much as I liked her and she would have probably been a good time regardless I told her I would catch her around later. With no other prospects to my liking at the time I checked out the streets to see if I could find a girl with a nice ass or good pair of tits. Unfortunately by now most girls had bailed and it was very cold so they were pretty much all gone except for a few plain looking ones scattered here and there. Decided to call it a night and checked out of my room, back to the border around 1 am, zero wait in line by car.
Spotted a super hot spinner, a 9 in my book dancing on the bar. She looks like she could be anywhere from 19-21. I have had my eye on this girl for a while but have never approached her. I was feeling like I was up for another round before I headed back home so I tipped her and felt her up. Didn't feel like wasting time with fichas so I got straight to the point. She quoted me $150 and was standing firm. Since she's so young and hot I could picture a lot of mongers just giving her the money without negotiating hoping to have a good time and getting this chick in cowgirl or doggy would have me ready to bust in 30 seconds flat, that's how hot she is. I told her damn that's a lot, does it at least include BBFS / BBBJ and she giggled and said no, supposedly she doesn't do that. I said well damn, you're hot, but I got $120 for you and it has to at least include DFK if I'm going to give you that much. She said she doesn't do that either but that supposedly she would allow LFK for me and that the lowest she would go is 140. I smiled and shook my head and told her maybe I would catch her later. She kept dancing in the same area for a while and didn't see any other guy snatch her up. Later on she was off to the side just chatting with another chica. Here's a very young, super hot chick, not making money because she's dead set on charging premium prices. Oh well.I understand the confusion but I'm sure if she's that hot she's making money. Last week the girl I was drinking with was very young and good looking. It was a very busy night and she was very happy just to sit and drink all night with me. I'm sure if she wanted to make money she could of gone up about 5 times. One girl that was on my maybe list I noticed go up 3 times at least. While sitting with this girl she was sharing some pics on her phone and I could see some of the texts she was getting from clients. It was pretty funny.
Like I've mentioned before the smart girls will get a number of regular clients that they can see in the club or maybe after work, same as some of the girls you see, so when they work if they don't feel like having sex they don't have to. They can just relax because they know that if they really need money it's only a text away.
KetoAndKettle
11-30-23, 00:11
I love Mexico, have learned a great deal of spanish, but man if I lived in Tijuana, major sex addiction for me. I wouldn't be able to deal with that supply. Including the wonderful civies around.
Why not live in Tijuana at one-third the price of SD? Met a number of mongers who work in the USA and live in Mexico. Even met one who works in Caada. Much of his work is online or on the road.
RonFromSichuan
11-30-23, 03:51
Tuesday, November 28.
Stopped in Hong Kong shortly before 7 PM. During the security check, the security guy confiscated my Bic Cristal pen. I was confused and told him it was a pen. He removed the cap, and did a poking motion, insinuating that I could use the pen as a weapon and stab people. I was surprised, because I have brought the pen through HK security many times before with no issues, most recently the previous night. But whatever, no use in fighting over something trivial, and the pen cost me around 10 cents, so I let him have his victory and made my way into the club.
As per usual custom, I did a lap around to scout the talent. There were quite a few chicas I was interested in, and there wasn't a lot of guys yet so this was a great time to try and pick one up. My plan was to arriba with a chica early on in the evening, rest for a few hours, and arriba a second time with a different chica later in the night. I took a seat on the second floor, opposite the tables, and got a beer. This one chica rubbed her hand across my thigh as she was walking by, and I thought she was attractive so I invite her to sit down. Within 15 seconds, a Mesero comes by and asks if I wanted to buy her a ficha. I said ok, she orders something, and I make sure with the Mesero that it's the regular $10 drink. He said yes. Once her drink arrives, we start talking a bit. Details are fuzzy as I forgot her name and where she was from. I inquired about arriba, I think she quoted $120. But, everything would have to be covered. That was a no from me, and after her drink she got up and walked away.
A few minutes later, this stunning chica walked by with a huge rack. She saw me stare at her and stopped. She motioned to me if I wanted her to sit down, and I nodded. Immediately a mesero came over to get her a ficha. I made sure the chica ordered a beer before accepting. Again, I forgot her name or where she is from, but I do remember her English was pretty good. Her body was very nice, so I didn't waste much time before going into negotiations. Similar to the first girl, she quoted $120 with everything covered. I pushed for BBBJ but was unsuccessful. She said that girls have to get tested to work here, and it is unsafe for them to do uncovered acts with guys here. I told her that I have successfully gotten BBBJ's from girls here before, and that I was clean and groomed and for her not to worry. She did not budge, so after she finished her drink she too got up and walked away.
I decided to get up from my seat and walked around. My quest to get BBBJ was turning out to be more of a challenge than I anticipated. As I was walking from the small ramp from HK to Las Chavelas, I saw this stunner sitting down by herself at a table. She reminded me of the pornstar Lela Star. I make eye contact with her, smile, she reciprocates, and I go and sit down next to her. I start to talk but a Mesero comes and interrupts me. I tell her beer only, and she says ok and the Mesero walks off to get her drink. In my eyes, this girl was one of the Top 5 hottest girls working that night. Her name is Cher, and she has an arabic tattoo on her right hand. Her resemblance to Lela Star was striking. Her English was good, the best out of all the girls I spoke to during this trip. During our conversation, half the time my eyes were staring at her humongous rack. She would notice and laugh a little each time. I admit, it was extremely hard to focus around her. At one point, I asked what size they were, and she had me guess. I said 32 DD, and this surprised look came across her face. She asked me how I knew, and I squeezed them and told her that I like huge racks and they felt like that size to me. In reality, it was a lucky guess.
Of course I wanted to arriba with her so I asked the usual questions. Her answers were: $150 for 30 minutes, everything covered. She also said she would not allow me to finish on her body, only in the condom. I laughed a little, as in my mind I was thinking "You cannot be serious. " I have never encountered a HK girl with this many restrictions before. She asked me if I was good at sex and I started to say something but she interrupted me and told me to tell her the truth. I said I am ok but with you it will probably be bad because I will most likely finish in 5 minutes. She then said if I do finish that quickly, she would only charge me $120. I tried negotiating more time or extra services, but to no success. Her final offer to me was $120 if I finish in 5 minutes, or $150 if I finish in more than 5 minutes, everything covered, I have to finish in the condom. I told her I would think about her offer, so after she finished her drink she got up and walked away.
I was 0/3 in negotiating BBBJ's at this point, and part of me wondered if I should cave in to the CBJ request. But the other part of me said to stick to my rules this time, because I did CBJ with a girl yesterday and the difference in enjoyment between CBJ and BBBJ is massive to me. So I am just sitting there at the table by myself when this chica comes by, puts her hand on me, and leans in saying "Hey Baby". I found this girl attractive and offered her a seat next to me. She instead sits on my lap and starts grinding. A Mesero comes by and I offer to get her a beer, to which she says yes. Her name is Ocita and she is 28 years old and is originally from Guadalajara but now lives in Rosarito. She has long black hair, down to her waist. All natural body with a handful of tattoos. As we are talking, she takes turns straddling me while facing me, and sitting to my side, hands on me.
At this point, especially after going 0/3 earlier, I really wanted to arriba with a chica, so I got down to the business questions. She quoted me $120 for 30 minutes. I asked if that includes BBBJ, and she shushed me and told me not to say it so loud. She whispered "yes" in my ear, but she doesn't want other girls hearing it. I was starting to get really turned on with this chica. I told her that I had my own room here and it was nice and so we can take our time with things, so how about an hour. She said ok. I decided to test my limits and asked if I could finish on her face. She gave me a smile and said ok. Once she said that, I decided that I would go with her. I told her that I would set a timer on my phone for 5 minutes, and after the timer is over I would go arriba with her. She said ok.
As the timer was ticking down, she leaned in and asked if I smoked. I clarified by asking cigarettes, and she said no, weed. I said I do but I didn't have anything on me (I did have edibles on me but nothing to smoke). She said she had a joint upstairs (I guess where the girls keep their stuff? I told her I would love to smoke with her and she said ok she would get her joint and would be right back. I didn't want some other guy to swoop her up so I made her pinky promise me that she would be back. She returned a few minutes later, and I stood up and we headed towards Hotel Cascadas.
I will try and keep it brief, but wow, the session with her was phenomenal, rivaling the best sessions I have ever had in HK. I would say it's impossible for me to pick one favorite session due to being in a different point in life during some of them, but this was up there. The highlight of the session was her incredible BBBJ + BLS skills. She was able to take me all the way to the base. I will never forget her handing me the joint and proceeding to blow me while I took a few hits myself. At one point I almost dropped the joint on the bed due to her oral skills. It's crazy how a simple task such as holding a cigarette shaped object in your hand gets exponentially harder when someone is blowing you. I experienced this once before with a chica on a prior Tijuana trip when trying to connect my phone to my speaker, and this was the second time.
Of course, I did not bring her to my room for an hour just to do BBBJ. We did two positions, missionary and standing doggy, utilizing the pole in my room to give her hands something to hold onto. One thing to note is she put the condom on with her mouth. I love when girls do that. There was lots of kissing, mixture of LFK and DFK. As well, she let me do FIV and DATY, which I happily did. And she kept her word and let me finish on her face at the end. Afterwards, I helped her clean up because it was a lot, and we took a shower together. Since there was still some time left, we snuggled in my bed for a bit to warm up, then got dressed. I gave her the $120 we agreed upon, as well as a $10 tip for the weed and going above and beyond during the session. I also gave her one of the edibles I brought with me. She was thankful. Just before leaving, I asked for some pictures, and we took some nice ones together before heading out the door. I walked her to the elevator, and bid her farewell as the doors closed. In a bit of a daze, I walked back to my room to try and process the whole experience.
Nice report, Ron. As I was reading it I thought you were going to bite the bullet for 150 with the Lela Star girl. Good thing you held out for the next girl. Goes to show if you have the time, it's worth it to stick around until the right one comes along. If worse comes to worse, sometimes it's even better to go home without going arriba rather than spending your money on a girl who's not going to cater to your needs and give you the starfish treatment. That's why I used to like Adelitas when I had time to kill. If I stuck around long enough I would always find a girl willing to offer BBFS / BBBJ / Greek, etc.
I understand the confusion but I'm sure if she's that hot she's making money. Last week the girl I was drinking with was very young and good looking. It was a very busy night and she was very happy just to sit and drink all night with me. I'm sure if she wanted to make money she could of gone up about 5 times. One girl that was on my maybe list I noticed go up 3 times at least. While sitting with this girl she was sharing some pics on her phone and I could see some of the texts she was getting from clients. It was pretty funny.
Like I've mentioned before the smart girls will get a number of regular clients that they can see in the club or maybe after work, same as some of the girls you see, so when they work if they don't feel like having sex they don't have to. They can just relax because they know that if they really need money it's only a text away.
I'm sure she does very well. On other trips I have seen her go arriba with several guys. This particular night I didn't see her go upstairs once though. On this trip I wasn't in the mood to stick around for fichas but maybe I'll invite her to sit down on a future trip to feel her out a little more and get her to open up.
I know some girls are willing to sit and drink with you all night if you want to. But I also know several girls who have told me if a guy is taking up too much of their time they will tell them they either have to go upstairs or tip them for spending time with them since they could potentially be losing out on several arribas by being with them for so long.
I know some girls are willing to sit and drink with you all night if you want to. But I also know several girls who have told me if a guy is taking up too much of their time they will tell them they either have to go upstairs or tip them for spending time with them since they could potentially be losing out on several arribas by being with them for so long.I'm definitely respectful of the girls time and know they are there to make money. While sitting with girls they will hint about going up and I will usually give them some different options to make them comfortable that they aren't wasting time with me. Last year had a girl that was in town just to make Christmas money, so while we were drinking I could sense her wondering if this was all that was happening so since she didn't want to bring it up I talked to her about it and it all worked out.
One of the reasons I like going on slow nights and usually don't start drinking with a girl till after midnight is to give them time to make money and usually by that time guys are starting to leave so they don't have a large crowd to make money from. The girl on my last visit seemed more interested in just talking and having fun but seemed genuinely surprised at the time when she realized she had to go.
RonFromSichuan
12-02-23, 09:13
Nice report, Ron. As I was reading it I thought you were going to bite the bullet for 150 with the Lela Star girl. Good thing you held out for the next girl. Goes to show if you have the time, it's worth it to stick around until the right one comes along. If worse comes to worse, sometimes it's even better to go home without going arriba rather than spending your money on a girl who's not going to cater to your needs and give you the starfish treatment. That's why I used to like Adelitas when I had time to kill. If I stuck around long enough I would always find a girl willing to offer BBFS / BBBJ / Greek, etc.
Thanks Nothing24. Reading through your reports this year helped sway me in coming back to Tijuana, as there were a few other options I was deciding on. Your reports with mostly positive outcomes and epic times showed to me that it is still possible to have a great time in Hong Kong despite the rising prices the last few years and HK management introducing some ridiculous practices (ex: bar fines for girls staying longer than an hour even if you have your own room, $4 waters instead of $1 last year, etc). I used some of the lines you wrote in your reports and it worked well. I am glad I came back because I had a blast.
RonFromSichuan
12-02-23, 09:26
Wednesday, November 29.
Headed down to Hong Kong around 3:30 PM to meet up with Ocita, the chica I sessioned with yesterday. There was a decent amount of chicas available during this time in the afternoon, a lot less guys than chicas. While walking around, I noticed this one stunning chica, amazing face. What especially stood out to me was how tall she was. She was the tallest chica in the club. We made eye contact as I walked by. I decide to sit at a table on the second floor and message Ocita to let her know where I was. As I was sitting and overlooking the floor, the chica I made eye contact with was now dancing on one of the poles at the bar. We made eye contact a few additional times. I wanted to talk to her, but I was here to meet my chica from yesterday, so I made a mental note to myself to approach her later on in the night if she was still working / available then.
Eventually Ocita finds me, sits down next to me and plants a big kiss on my face. She wanted to go up right away and told me she has a joint with her again, but I told her I wanted to wait a few minutes. So I offered her a drink in the meantime, and she said ok. I asked her if she wanted to use the jacuzzi in my room. She said sure. We fooled around for a bit at the table before I was ready and brought her back upstairs to my room.
It was another amazing session filled with GFE and stuff we did yesterday, plus some additional positions. The joint she brought didn't work that well because a bunch of the flower spilled out. But I didn't mind because I was really enjoying my time with her regardless of whether I was sober or high. While we were doing standing doggy, her hands on the pole, I went a little bit too hard and went past the feeling of no return, so I quickly removed the condom and had her turn around before exploding on her body.
After cleaning up and showering, we spent some time in the jacuzzi I had in my room. It was a nice experience and we talked a bit. At one point she submerged her head to give me an underwater BBBJ. This was my first time experiencing that, and it felt a little weird at first but it was pleasurable. She seemed a little disappointed I wasn't getting hard. I told her I wish I could go again with you but I am not 21 anymore and it now takes me a few hours in-between rounds. She was understanding. She also had me take some pictures of her posing in the jacuzzi, which are now located in the Hidden Folder on my phone. She wanted to stay longer, and I wanted her to as well, but the inevitable knock on the door came, which signaled it was time for her to leave.
As she is getting dressed, I pull out my wallet and ask her how much she wanted. She made a comment that sounded like she didn't want any payment from me. I was confused by what I thought I had heard and handed her $100 and asked if that was enough. She was a little hesitant but I put the money in her hand and told her it was for you, and she said ok and put it away. I also gave her 2 more of my edibles, to which she was really thankful for. She then says something to me but I didn't understand so she had to pull out Google translate. She said she wanted to invite me to have dinner with her. I said sure, you want to eat now? She said no, after she is done working. I ask around what time that would be and she said midnight. So I told her ok, just message me later, I would love to eat with you.
By this time, she was basically dressed to go. I wanted to walk her to the elevator so I threw some clothes on at the last minute. As we were leaving my room, I was still finishing up looping my belt around my pants and tucking my shirt in. I see the Cascadas employee who had knocked earlier just stare at me for a few seconds. As we pass by him I make eye contact and smile, hands still finalizing adjusting my belt. I walk her to the elevator and as we are waiting for the elevator to come up, she notices that my shoes are untied and knees down and starts tying one of them. After she finishes I thank her and quickly kneel down and tie my other shoe before she got a chance to. The doors open, and I kiss her one more time before telling her to send me a message later and saying bye before the doors close. I head to my room to rest and recharge for the rest of the night. I spent the next few hours drinking the Monster I bought the previous day from the Oxxo across the street, eating some fruit at Azul, and having 2 edibles before heading back down to the club.
Went back into Hong Kong a second time around 8:30 PM. As expected, it was a lot crowded than earlier in the day, and more crowded than the previous two nights. My goal was to try and find the tall chica I saw dancing on the pole earlier, the one that made eye contact with me numerous times. Well, lucky me because I saw her dancing on the main pole. And there were a few empty seats near the stage, perfect. I sat down and watched the show. She was wearing a white mini dress, which she ended up taking off halfway through the dance. At one point, she was entirely topless, hands and knees on the ground, and started crawling around in a seductive way. When she passed by me, I tipped her $1 and felt her up. We made eye contact and I think she whispered something to me. I am not sure if she actually said anything, maybe it was the edibles I had earlier that were now taking effect, but her eyes and face were hypnotizing me. As well, her body up close looked mesmerizing, her skin super soft. Long straight dark brown hair. A very nice looking set of man made the cups. I felt them and gave them a soft squeeze, they felt perfect. I gave her another $1 tip and she smiled at me. I decided in my mind to go up to her later and invite her for a ficha after she was done dancing.
After her dance was over, I waited maybe 10 minutes before getting up and looking for her. I didn't want to go over right away. But I realized I should have, because I could not find her at all. I did two laps around the club, did not see her. I realized she probably went arriba with another guy, so I went and sat back down where I was before. Even though there was a different chica dancing right in front of me, I was distracted and kicking myself a bit for not getting up earlier and talking with the tall chica. But I sat and waited, tried to enjoy the show. Time passed by, the edibles got stronger, and I got up to walk around again. This time, I saw that she was back in the club but talking to a Mesero. I strategically changed my route as to when I would walk by her, I would be facing her and making eye contact, rather than being behind her and having to tap her on the shoulder.
We make eye contact and I open with telling her that I enjoyed her dancing on the stage earlier. A Mesero comes by and asks if I want to buy her a drink. I say sure and ask her if she wants a beer and she nods her head yes. The Mesero asks if I want a table and I said sure, but I didn't see any room. He ends up leading us to this area of HK separate from the main club. It was much quieter here and we were able to sit down and talk in peace.
Going into this, I was a bit apprehensive because my worst ever HK session was with a pole girl. As well, what I have found from my personal experience is that my conversations / negotiations with the hotter looking chicas (8. 5 and up) don't tend to go as well as with the still hot but not smoking hot chicas (7-8. 5). And in my eyes, this chica was in the top 5 most attractive ones working that night. In other words, I was expecting a sharky attitude and restrictions on service. Luckily, I was wrong.
Turns out this chica is cool. Her name is Rafaela and she used to work in HK for a few years, but took a break, and is now back. She said she came back on Monday. I asked how old she was and she said 37. I thought I misheard her so I asked her to repeat, and she said the same number. I was honestly taken aback, as I would have guessed she was late 20's at most. Of course, I make a comment on her height and how tall she was, she said she its the boots that make her look tall, she is 5'9 without the boots. I said that is still really tall. She said she has a Visa and showed me some pictures of her traveling in the US.
Eventually, I started inquiring about arriba. She quoted me 120 for 30 minutes. I asked her if that included BBBJ and her eyes opened wide and she was like "I don't know. I have to see first". I tell her that I am clean and manscaped and for her not to worry. She said she has to see with her own eyes, if it looks good then ok. I tried negotiating for 45 minutes by telling her I have my own room and we can take our time, but she mentioned something about having to buy her a wine in order for her to stay longer. There was probably something lost in translation along the way, but at this point her drink was done and the Mesero was hovering over us waiting for another order and I didn't want to buy any wine. So I said lets just do 30 minutes and she said ok and we got up and she held my hand and led me through the club, capturing the attention of almost everyone we passed by.
I wish I could say the session was incredible, but it wasn't. But that was because of me, not because of her. I apparently still hadn't recovered enough from my session earlier with Ocita, and therefore had trouble staying hard during penetration. I honestly felt embarrassed and told her this. In my mind, I was kicking myself for not buying an emergency blue pill for instances like this. But Rafaela was nice and understanding once I explained to her why I was having trouble staying hard.
That was the bad part, now let's talk about the good. This chica really knows how to use her mouth and hands. After pulling off my boxers, she looked at my dick and made a comment on how it looks nice. That made me feel good inside. I gave a thumbs up question mark in regards to BBBJ, and she smiles, nods her head, and starts going down on me. Her BBBJ + BLS skills were phenomenal; at one point I had to cover my head with a pillow in order to muffle the sounds that were coming from my mouth. She must have seen because she stopped and laughed for a few seconds. As well, her handjob skills were great. I normally do not like handjobs at all, but hers felt really good. And she was open to kissing, both LFK and DFK. At the end, she said I could finish on her face. I did a double take and clarified what she had just said, and she said yes, it's no problem. Well, if you say so. So I did, and it felt amazing. Afterwards, I helped her to the shower so she could clean up. After she was done, she got dressed and ready to go. I told her I would walk her to the elevator, she said she's fine she can go alone, but I insisted and walked with her. While we waited for the doors to open, I took out my phone and we took a few selfies together before kissing one last time and saying bye.
After that session I headed back to my room to chill for a bit, as well as have another edible. I wanted to head back across the border tonight to avoid a long wait in line tomorrow afternoon, but I did want to eat with Ocita and still had some time to kill before she got off work. It was raining at this time, so I decided I would just hunker down at one club for the rest of the night. I went back into HK around 10:40 PM and it was packed, standing room only. Definitely the most crowded I have ever seen it. During my lap around, I saw Rafaela dancing on a side pole at the bar. We make eye contact and I smile and wave at her. She waves back to me. Part of me wanted to talk to her, but it was super crowded and I did not know how much longer she would be dancing so I left and headed to Chicago Club and ended up spending around 1 1/2 hours there.
Around 11:40 PM in Chicago Club, I messaged Ocita to see if she still wanted to eat dinner because I planned on crossing the border later on in the night. By 12:30 AM, she still had not responded. I figured she was probably with a guy for the night. So I left Chicago and headed to my room to pack and leave. While I was in my room packing, I get a call from her asking where I am. I tell her I am in my room and ask her if she still wants to eat. She says yes. I ask where she is at and she says the Senda Norte restaurant. I tell her I'll be there in five minutes and she says no problem.
I show up at the restaurant and find her easily, as she is the only customer there. She turns to me and smiles once she sees me. I take a seat across from her. She asks why I am sitting there, I should sit next to her. I say sorry my mistake, and get up and take the seat right next to her. Even though I wasn't hungry because my mind was focused on crossing the border, I enjoyed my time with her. We spent our time talking, sharing our food, and doing GFE stuff (holding hands, kissing, etc). At one point during our conversation, she invites me to her place to stay the night. I was surprised and a bit taken aback. I tell her I would like to, but I have to cross the border tonight. She seems sad but said she understands.
When the check arrives, I take out my wallet and tell her I can pay. She says I can pay also and takes out some cash. I really was going to pay, but she seemed like she wanted to, so I let her. Afterwards, she calls a ride service to take her home. I wait with her until her ride arrives, and walk her out to the car. We embrace and have a final few kisses before parting ways. I head back to my room, finish packing, and go downstairs to check out, before getting a taxi to the border. It was 2:18 AM when I exited the taxi. Kept walking and ended up next in line when I got to the questioning part. I was lucky and got a cool border agent who asked me four questions before letting me through. I entered the doors back to the US and took out my phone to call an Uber. It was 2:24 AM, a new personal record for getting through.
Wednesday, November 29.
Headed down to Hong Kong around 3:30 PM to meet up with Ocita, the chica I sessioned with yesterday. There was a decent amount of chicas available during this time in the afternoon, a lot less guys than chicas. While walking around, I noticed this one stunning chica, amazing face. What especially stood out to me was how tall she was. She was the tallest chica in the club. We made eye contact as I walked by. I decide to sit at a table on the second floor and message Ocita to let her know where I was. As I was sitting and overlooking the floor, the chica I made eye contact with was now dancing on one of the poles at the bar. We made eye contact a few additional times. I wanted to talk to her, but I was here to meet my chica from yesterday, so I made a mental note to myself to approach her later on in the night if she was still working / available then.
Eventually Ocita finds me, sits down next to me and plants a big kiss on my face. She wanted to go up right away and told me she has a joint with her again, but I told her I wanted to wait a few minutes. So I offered her a drink in the meantime, and she said ok. I asked her if she wanted to use the jacuzzi in my room. She said sure. We fooled around for a bit at the table before I was ready and brought her back upstairs to my room.
It was another amazing session filled with GFE and stuff we did yesterday, plus some additional positions. The joint she brought didn't work that well because a bunch of the flower spilled out. But I didn't mind because I was really enjoying my time with her regardless of whether I was sober or high. While we were doing standing doggy, her hands on the pole, I went a little bit too hard and went past the feeling of no return, so I quickly removed the condom and had her turn around before exploding on her body.
After cleaning up and showering, we spent some time in the jacuzzi I had in my room. It was a nice experience and we talked a bit. At one point she submerged her head to give me an underwater BBBJ. This was my first time experiencing that, and it felt a little weird at first but it was pleasurable. She seemed a little disappointed I wasn't getting hard. I told her I wish I could go again with you but I am not 21 anymore and it now takes me a few hours in-between rounds. She was understanding. She also had me take some pictures of her posing in the jacuzzi, which are now located in the Hidden Folder on my phone. She wanted to stay longer, and I wanted her to as well, but the inevitable knock on the door came, which signaled it was time for her to leave.
As she is getting dressed, I pull out my wallet and ask her how much she wanted. She made a comment that sounded like she didn't want any payment from me. I was confused by what I thought I had heard and handed her $100 and asked if that was enough. She was a little hesitant but I put the money in her hand and told her it was for you, and she said ok and put it away. I also gave her 2 more of my edibles, to which she was really thankful for. She then says something to me but I didn't understand so she had to pull out Google translate. She said she wanted to invite me to have dinner with her. I said sure, you want to eat now? She said no, after she is done working. I ask around what time that would be and she said midnight. So I told her ok, just message me later, I would love to eat with you.
By this time, she was basically dressed to go. I wanted to walk her to the elevator so I threw some clothes on at the last minute. As we were leaving my room, I was still finishing up looping my belt around my pants and tucking my shirt in. I see the Cascadas employee who had knocked earlier just stare at me for a few seconds. As we pass by him I make eye contact and smile, hands still finalizing adjusting my belt. I walk her to the elevator and as we are waiting for the elevator to come up, she notices that my shoes are untied and knees down and starts tying one of them. After she finishes I thank her and quickly kneel down and tie my other shoe before she got a chance to. The doors open, and I kiss her one more time before telling her to send me a message later and saying bye before the doors close. I head to my room to rest and recharge for the rest of the night. I spent the next few hours drinking the Monster I bought the previous day from the Oxxo across the street, eating some fruit at Azul, and having 2 edibles before heading back down to the club.
Went back into Hong Kong a second time around 8:30 PM. As expected, it was a lot crowded than earlier in the day, and more crowded than the previous two nights. My goal was to try and find the tall chica I saw dancing on the pole earlier, the one that made eye contact with me numerous times. Well, lucky me because I saw her dancing on the main pole. And there were a few empty seats near the stage, perfect. I sat down and watched the show. She was wearing a white mini dress, which she ended up taking off halfway through the dance. At one point, she was entirely topless, hands and knees on the ground, and started crawling around in a seductive way. When she passed by me, I tipped her $1 and felt her up. We made eye contact and I think she whispered something to me. I am not sure if she actually said anything, maybe it was the edibles I had earlier that were now taking effect, but her eyes and face were hypnotizing me. As well, her body up close looked mesmerizing, her skin super soft. Long straight dark brown hair. A very nice looking set of man made the cups. I felt them and gave them a soft squeeze, they felt perfect. I gave her another $1 tip and she smiled at me. I decided in my mind to go up to her later and invite her for a ficha after she was done dancing.
After her dance was over, I waited maybe 10 minutes before getting up and looking for her. I didn't want to go over right away. But I realized I should have, because I could not find her at all. I did two laps around the club, did not see her. I realized she probably went arriba with another guy, so I went and sat back down where I was before. Even though there was a different chica dancing right in front of me, I was distracted and kicking myself a bit for not getting up earlier and talking with the tall chica. But I sat and waited, tried to enjoy the show. Time passed by, the edibles got stronger, and I got up to walk around again. This time, I saw that she was back in the club but talking to a Mesero. I strategically changed my route as to when I would walk by her, I would be facing her and making eye contact, rather than being behind her and having to tap her on the shoulder.
We make eye contact and I open with telling her that I enjoyed her dancing on the stage earlier. A Mesero comes by and asks if I want to buy her a drink. I say sure and ask her if she wants a beer and she nods her head yes. The Mesero asks if I want a table and I said sure, but I didn't see any room. He ends up leading us to this area of HK separate from the main club. It was much quieter here and we were able to sit down and talk in peace.
Going into this, I was a bit apprehensive because my worst ever HK session was with a pole girl. As well, what I have found from my personal experience is that my conversations / negotiations with the hotter looking chicas (8. 5 and up) don't tend to go as well as with the still hot but not smoking hot chicas (7-8. 5). And in my eyes, this chica was in the top 5 most attractive ones working that night. In other words, I was expecting a sharky attitude and restrictions on service. Luckily, I was wrong.
Turns out this chica is cool. Her name is Rafaela and she used to work in HK for a few years, but took a break, and is now back. She said she came back on Monday. I asked how old she was and she said 37. I thought I misheard her so I asked her to repeat, and she said the same number. I was honestly taken aback, as I would have guessed she was late 20's at most. Of course, I make a comment on her height and how tall she was, she said she its the boots that make her look tall, she is 5'9 without the boots. I said that is still really tall. She said she has a Visa and showed me some pictures of her traveling in the US.
Eventually, I started inquiring about arriba. She quoted me 120 for 30 minutes. I asked her if that included BBBJ and her eyes opened wide and she was like "I don't know. I have to see first". I tell her that I am clean and manscaped and for her not to worry. She said she has to see with her own eyes, if it looks good then ok. I tried negotiating for 45 minutes by telling her I have my own room and we can take our time, but she mentioned something about having to buy her a wine in order for her to stay longer. There was probably something lost in translation along the way, but at this point her drink was done and the Mesero was hovering over us waiting for another order and I didn't want to buy any wine. So I said lets just do 30 minutes and she said ok and we got up and she held my hand and led me through the club, capturing the attention of almost everyone we passed by.
I wish I could say the session was incredible, but it wasn't. But that was because of me, not because of her. I apparently still hadn't recovered enough from my session earlier with Ocita, and therefore had trouble staying hard during penetration. I honestly felt embarrassed and told her this. In my mind, I was kicking myself for not buying an emergency blue pill for instances like this. But Rafaela was nice and understanding once I explained to her why I was having trouble staying hard.
That was the bad part, now let's talk about the good. This chica really knows how to use her mouth and hands. After pulling off my boxers, she looked at my dick and made a comment on how it looks nice. That made me feel good inside. I gave a thumbs up question mark in regards to BBBJ, and she smiles, nods her head, and starts going down on me. Her BBBJ + BLS skills were phenomenal; at one point I had to cover my head with a pillow in order to muffle the sounds that were coming from my mouth. She must have seen because she stopped and laughed for a few seconds. As well, her handjob skills were great. I normally do not like handjobs at all, but hers felt really good. And she was open to kissing, both LFK and DFK. At the end, she said I could finish on her face. I did a double take and clarified what she had just said, and she said yes, it's no problem. Well, if you say so. So I did, and it felt amazing. Afterwards, I helped her to the shower so she could clean up. After she was done, she got dressed and ready to go. I told her I would walk her to the elevator, she said she's fine she can go alone, but I insisted and walked with her. While we waited for the doors to open, I took out my phone and we took a few selfies together before kissing one last time and saying bye.
After that session I headed back to my room to chill for a bit, as well as have another edible. I wanted to head back across the border tonight to avoid a long wait in line tomorrow afternoon, but I did want to eat with Ocita and still had some time to kill before she got off work. It was raining at this time, so I decided I would just hunker down at one club for the rest of the night. I went back into HK around 10:40 PM and it was packed, standing room only. Definitely the most crowded I have ever seen it. During my lap around, I saw Rafaela dancing on a side pole at the bar. We make eye contact and I smile and wave at her. She waves back to me. Part of me wanted to talk to her, but it was super crowded and I did not know how much longer she would be dancing so I left and headed to Chicago Club and ended up spending around 1 1/2 hours there.
Around 11:40 PM in Chicago Club, I messaged Ocita to see if she still wanted to eat dinner because I planned on crossing the border later on in the night. By 12:30 AM, she still had not responded. I figured she was probably with a guy for the night. So I left Chicago and headed to my room to pack and leave. While I was in my room packing, I get a call from her asking where I am. I tell her I am in my room and ask her if she still wants to eat. She says yes. I ask where she is at and she says the Senda Norte restaurant. I tell her I'll be there in five minutes and she says no problem.
I show up at the restaurant and find her easily, as she is the only customer there. She turns to me and smiles once she sees me. I take a seat across from her. She asks why I am sitting there, I should sit next to her. I say sorry my mistake, and get up and take the seat right next to her. Even though I wasn't hungry because my mind was focused on crossing the border, I enjoyed my time with her. We spent our time talking, sharing our food, and doing GFE stuff (holding hands, kissing, etc). At one point during our conversation, she invites me to her place to stay the night. I was surprised and a bit taken aback. I tell her I would like to, but I have to cross the border tonight. She seems sad but said she understands.
When the check arrives, I take out my wallet and tell her I can pay. She says I can pay also and takes out some cash. I really was going to pay, but she seemed like she wanted to, so I let her. Afterwards, she calls a ride service to take her home. I wait with her until her ride arrives, and walk her out to the car. We embrace and have a final few kisses before parting ways. I head back to my room, finish packing, and go downstairs to check out, before getting a taxi to the border. It was 2:18 AM when I exited the taxi. Kept walking and ended up next in line when I got to the questioning part. I was lucky and got a cool border agent who asked me four questions before letting me through. I entered the doors back to the US and took out my phone to call an Uber. It was 2:24 AM, a new personal record for getting through.Bro you forgot to write ethe parts when you brushed your teeth, hung your towels up to dry. That story is 4 x too long for nothing important happening. A story that long needs to involve some robbery and kidnapping. Otherwise most guys won't read it at all. But the lessons to point out here, is men are never satisfied. Here you ha ea girl who likes you. But you still going into bars looking for woman. She's still banging other guys until midnight. By default hk attracts high sex drive men, and $$ hungry woman. So that part is all normal. And a free tip to new guys is, if you would of sat in your room watching TV all night waiting for her there was always a 70% chance she doesn't meet you at 12 or 2 am, maybe at 3 am. By then your sleeping and wasted a night in Zona norte. So you did what you had to.
Dogers, the robbery and kidnapping would have happened if he would have went back to that girl's house LOL. I kid, of course.
FWIW, I enjoyed reading the latest report. Something to help pass the time at work. Sometimes my reports tend to go a little long as well but I always try to include some useful information to make the reading worthwhile.
Thanks Nothing24. Reading through your reports this year helped sway me in coming back to Tijuana, as there were a few other options I was deciding on. Your reports with mostly positive outcomes and epic times showed to me that it is still possible to have a great time in Hong Kong despite the rising prices the last few years and HK management introducing some ridiculous practices (ex: bar fines for girls staying longer than an hour even if you have your own room, $4 waters instead of $1 last year, etc). I used some of the lines you wrote in your reports and it worked well. I am glad I came back because I had a blast.
Glad I could help. There's always some fun and sexy girls out there, they just need to be found. Those willing to hunt usually find what they're looking for.
Another tip is when you find a winner, ask them to introduce you to her friends. Chances are birds of a feather flock together.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-04-23, 05:07
Entry fee to club on weekend and Fridays is now $6 up from 5 $.
Some of these HK girls are so freaking hot I'm pretty sure they could easily get a regular job just be / see of their attractive looks. Great for us, but such a shame to have such amazingly beautiful women be ravaged and degraded by so many customers as a hooker.
On a side note, I tried the new ped west entry and it worked out just fine going into Mexico. However, when I was returning to go back to USA, the ped west entry was closed. Apparently it is only open during certain hours. Anyone know when it typically closes? Pedwest also dumps you in a shady and deserted alley where you can easily get robbed, just FYI. Will probably stick with pedeast.
Some of these HK girls are so freaking hot I'm pretty sure they could easily get a regular job just be / see of their attractive looks. Great for us, but such a shame to have such amazingly beautiful women be ravaged and degraded by so many customers as a hooker.Sorry but I disagree.
These women chose to be there for the income (or at least the hope of high income).
We the customers must treat these women well.
As long as we do that most of these women enjoy the experience. And appreciate the associated income.
I am grateful for the awesome service these ladies provide and I thank them for the service.
I we treat them well we do not feel we are ravaging or degrading the women.
On a side note, I tried the new ped west entry and it worked out just fine going into Mexico. However, when I was returning to go back to USA, the ped west entry was closed. Apparently it is only open during certain hours. Anyone know when it typically closes? Pedwest also dumps you in a shady and deserted alley where you can easily get robbed, just FYI. Will probably stick with pedeast.Going from Mexico to the US is open from 6 am to 2 pm.
Going from US to Mexico is open from 3 pm to 11 pm.
HK shuttle is also available at both locations.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-06-23, 06:38
Sorry but I disagree.
These women chose to be there for the income (or at least the hope of high income).
We the customers must treat these women well.
As long as we do that most of these women enjoy the experience. And appreciate the associated income.
I am grateful for the awesome service these ladies provide and I thank them for the service.
I we treat them well we do not feel we are ravaging or degrading the women.There are definitely customers who go there and treat everyone respectfully and appreciate the services provided by these amazingly beautiful women. But lets be honest. It's a hooker bar run by cartel. Just sit there and look at the people who are visiting HK. Vast majority of the customers are low lifes, creeps, gangsters, thugs, or disgusting men who most probably treat the woman like dirt and a piece of dog meat upstairs doing nasty ass degrading things to them.
The ones that post on this forum are usually the more informed and appreciative folks and not the vast majority of people at the club.
Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree or agree. I love HK but you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel bad for the girls.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-06-23, 06:39
Going from Mexico to the US is open from 6 am to 2 pm.
Going from US to Mexico is open from 3 pm to 11 pm.
HK shuttle is also available at both locations.Thank you! That is great to know! Damn, so basically the pedwest entrance back to the USA is worthless if it closes at 2 pm.
AmericanPi
12-07-23, 05:12
I co-sign this.
You have to remember these are not the hot secretary at your office. Most of these girls are borderline villagers. They come from other parts of Mexico to make quick money and often for good reasons.
I remember I once googled the minimum wage in Tijuana. I forgot what it was exactly, but it was a little higher than other parts because it's a border town. But it's shockingly low. It's a day rate, but by the hour it was something like a few dollars. It's not hard to see why the faster money of hk is better.
Now the real play would be to get a work permit and work at jack in the box at San ysidro. Min wage in Cali is like 17.50 now. That's not peasant money in Mexico.
Sorry but I disagree.
These women chose to be there for the income (or at least the hope of high income).
We the customers must treat these women well.
As long as we do that most of these women enjoy the experience. And appreciate the associated income.
I am grateful for the awesome service these ladies provide and I thank them for the service.
I we treat them well we do not feel we are ravaging or degrading the women.
There are definitely customers who go there and treat everyone respectfully ...
. Vast majority of the customers are low lifes, creeps, gangsters, thugs, or disgusting men who most probably treat the woman like dirt and a piece of dog meat upstairs doing nasty ass degrading things to them.
...I love HK but you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel bad for the girls.I disagree.
I met many people at the club over the years and the vast majority of guys I met are decent guys.
I met a few that refer to them as 'bitches' - so definitely a portion of the guys don't appreciate that WE are the beneficiaries of the awesome service.
I would say only a small fraction are low lifes, etc.
I feel sorry for any low income person. Regardless of profession.
DonCarlos1234
12-07-23, 09:36
Entry fee to club on weekend and Fridays is now $6 up from 5 $.
Some of these HK girls are so freaking hot I'm pretty sure they could easily get a regular job just be / see of their attractive looks. Great for us, but such a shame to have such amazingly beautiful women be ravaged and degraded by so many customers as a hooker.
On a side note, I tried the new ped west entry and it worked out just fine going into Mexico. However, when I was returning to go back to USA, the ped west entry was closed. Apparently it is only open during certain hours. Anyone know when it typically closes? Pedwest also dumps you in a shady and deserted alley where you can easily get robbed, just FYI. Will probably stick with pedeast.I think not many will do this.
I read posts here and often wonder what the posters opinion is looking in the mirror. I see a range of undesirable looking men at HK and wonder how the guys on this board rate themselves. Not in $ spent but in personality, looks and other mating / dating qualities. Speak up guys! And the photos I see posted are often not as hot as the descriptions. Kind of similar to online dating.
AmericanPi
12-07-23, 14:59
l And the photos I see posted are often not as hot as the descriptions. Kind of similar to online dating.Ha! So it's not just me. I know to each his own but I often see photos, accompanied by some prose about the girl being super hot mamacita or some such, and think yeah that girl looks just like the 50 I walk right past at HK and try not to make eye contact with because they look skeevy as hell.
I hate to say it, but since I'm anonymous and judgmental as hell I'll say it, I also look at some of the dudes in HK and think similar. Like I'm sorry for the girl that has to lie under that fat ass. Or that dude who clearly saved up to be here and is going to get every last cent's worth of value from his arriba. Or that dude who looks like he does this a little too often. Or that dude who has serial killer vibes the way he just silently stares.
Vast majority of the customers are low lifes, creeps, gangsters, thugs, or disgusting men And which type are you?
BrotherMouzone
12-07-23, 20:35
I disagree.
I met many people at the club over the years and the vast majority of guys I met are decent guys.
I met a few that refer to them as 'bitches' - so definitely a portion of the guys don't appreciate that WE are the beneficiaries of the awesome service.
I would say only a small fraction are low lifes, etc.
I feel sorry for any low income person. Regardless of profession.From my experience I definitely agree. I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of people in life, believe it or not, are actually DECENT people and even customers in (what some would consider to be morally questionable) clubs like these reflect that. I've been going to these clubs on and off for years and haven't had a single negative experience with another customer, they've all been respectful. Only thing that annoys me is when other dudes occasionally come up to me and talk my head off instead of focusing on the chicas in the club that we're all here for, but can't call anyone a "low life" over that LOL.
Yes, there are guys there who very clearly don't respect the chicas, which is disheartening. Some of those guys are here and post regularly on these boards. For example you even have white supremacists on these boards who've explicity stated their prejudices and dislikes for latinos and blacks, yet those same dudes have no problem going down to Tijuana on a regular basis to bang Mexican hookers, which to me is funny in a way.
I feel awful for chicas that have to deal with those kind of guys and other crap like that, though I think most of them (at least the ones who've worked long enough) understand that it's part of what comes with the quick $$$ associated with their sex work. As long as the guys who don't respect chicas aren't physically violent or overly rude to the chicas I guess it works out.
TheSwampHawk
12-09-23, 00:21
From my experience I definitely agree. I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of people in life, believe it or not, are actually DECENT people and even customers in (what some would consider to be morally questionable) clubs like these reflect that. I've been going to these clubs on and off for years and haven't had a single negative experience with another customer, they've all been respectful. Only thing that annoys me is when other dudes occasionally come up to me and talk my head off instead of focusing on the chicas in the club that we're all here for, but can't call anyone a "low life" over that LOL.
Yes, there are guys there who very clearly don't respect the chicas, which is disheartening. Some of those guys are here and post regularly on these boards. For example you even have white supremacists on these boards who've explicity stated their prejudices and dislikes for latinos and blacks, yet those same dudes have no problem going down to Tijuana on a regular basis to bang Mexican hookers, which to me is funny in a way.
I feel awful for chicas that have to deal with those kind of guys and other crap like that, though I think most of them (at least the ones who've worked long enough) understand that it's part of what comes with the quick $$$ associated with their sex work. As long as the guys who don't respect chicas aren't physically violent or overly rude to the chicas I guess it works out.Exactly. Well said. Matches my 40+ years hobbying in Tijuana. Wow! The stories and changes.
HH, SS.
SH.
Unfortunately there is a a few bad apples that treat the poorly or worse. The one good thing is that it is fairly hard for someone to get away with violence or other things in the hotels.
From my experience I definitely agree. I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of people in life, believe it or not, are actually DECENT people and even customers in (what some would consider to be morally questionable) clubs like these reflect that. I've been going to these clubs on and off for years and haven't had a single negative experience with another customer, they've all been respectful. Only thing that annoys me is when other dudes occasionally come up to me and talk my head off instead of focusing on the chicas in the club that we're all here for, but can't call anyone a "low life" over that LOL.
Yes, there are guys there who very clearly don't respect the chicas, which is disheartening. Some of those guys are here and post regularly on these boards. For example you even have white supremacists on these boards who've explicity stated their prejudices and dislikes for latinos and blacks, yet those same dudes have no problem going down to Tijuana on a regular basis to bang Mexican hookers, which to me is funny in a way.
I feel awful for chicas that have to deal with those kind of guys and other crap like that, though I think most of them (at least the ones who've worked long enough) understand that it's part of what comes with the quick $$$ associated with their sex work. As long as the guys who don't respect chicas aren't physically violent or overly rude to the chicas I guess it works out.
AmericanPi
12-14-23, 02:47
Exactly. Well said. Matches my 40+ years hobbying in Tijuana. Wow! The stories and changes.
HH, SS.
SH.Dude. 40 years hobbying in Tijuana? Do share. What was it like in the 80's? I used to go with my parents but I was a kid then. What was the scene like? Was there a zona norte? What was the vibe?
ABAJoeSmith123
12-14-23, 04:33
Unfortunately there is a a few bad apples that treat the poorly or worse. The one good thing is that it is fairly hard for someone to get away with violence or other things in the hotels.There are many ways the bad apples can do humiliating and terrible things to the ladies in the hotel that don't constitute "violence" or get the attention of security. I sure as hell hope it never happens, but I'm not naive to think it doesn't happen everyday or so to an unlucky chica by some unscrupulous dirtbag client in a place like hk.
Got to remember that these girls are desperate and willing to allow a lot of crap to be done to them so they can get grocery money for their kids.
From my experience I definitely agree. I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of people in life, believe it or not, are actually DECENT people and even customers in (what some would consider to be morally questionable) clubs like these reflect that. I've been going to these clubs on and off for years and haven't had a single negative experience with another customer, they've all been respectful. Only thing that annoys me is when other dudes occasionally come up to me and talk my head off instead of focusing on the chicas in the club that we're all here for, but can't call anyone a "low life" over that LOL.
Yes, there are guys there who very clearly don't respect the chicas, which is disheartening. Some of those guys are here and post regularly on these boards. For example you even have white supremacists on these boards who've explicity stated their prejudices and dislikes for latinos and blacks, yet those same dudes have no problem going down to Tijuana on a regular basis to bang Mexican hookers, which to me is funny in a way.
I feel awful for chicas that have to deal with those kind of guys and other crap like that, though I think most of them (at least the ones who've worked long enough) understand that it's part of what comes with the quick $$$ associated with their sex work. As long as the guys who don't respect chicas aren't physically violent or overly rude to the chicas I guess it works out.I can confirm this. When I went to Spain I was reading through the forums and there was a guy who mentioned a girl had a bad run in in a club similar to hk. The guy had a 'device' the girl believed to be a vibrator and grabbed it from him to play with it. The guy had brought in a cattle prod. Who the fuck brings those into a girl bar?
Anyway she shocked herself and he thought it was funny. He ended up banned from the forum but I'm sure he's lurking around on a new name. Dirtbags do come on these forums and learn from us. Dirtbags are always scheming. My only 'scheme' is to get the most sex for the least money. If these bad actors keep up this crap there won't be any chicas left. All it takes is one very bad experience for a girl and she's gone for good. I'm sure a few good workers have left despite the money because they were treated awful.
Onto a better topic: is it okay to give a propina for amazing service in the spirit of Christmas?
There are many ways the bad apples can do humiliating and terrible things to the ladies in the hotel that don't constitute "violence" or get the attention of security. I sure as hell hope it never happens, but I'm not naive to think it doesn't happen everyday or so to an unlucky chica by some unscrupulous dirtbag client in a place like hk.
Got to remember that these girls are desperate and willing to allow a lot of crap to be done to them so they can get grocery money for their kids.On one hand, I've met a lot of normal guys in the clubs.
On the other hand, a serial killer murdered a chica in one of the HK rooms just last year.
I think we'the be fucking stupid if we think that there are no weirdos, psychopaths or rapists wandering these clubs.
I myself have intervened once when a dude chased a chica out of his room and into the hallways to drag her back in. And she was screaming at the top of her lungs in fear.
Aviator400
12-14-23, 21:08
I can confirm this. When I went to Spain I was reading through the forums and there was a guy who mentioned a girl had a bad run in in a club similar to hk. The guy had a 'device' the girl believed to be a vibrator and grabbed it from him to play with it. The guy had brought in a cattle prod. Who the fuck brings those into a girl bar?
Anyway she shocked herself and he thought it was funny. He ended up banned from the forum but I'm sure he's lurking around on a new name. Dirtbags do come on these forums and learn from us. Dirtbags are always scheming. My only 'scheme' is to get the most sex for the least money. If these bad actors keep up this crap there won't be any chicas left. All it takes is one very bad experience for a girl and she's gone for good. I'm sure a few good workers have left despite the money because they were treated awful.
Onto a better topic: is it okay to give a propina for amazing service in the spirit of Christmas?And the girl who was pained is going to tell all her friends in the club, and those friends are going to embellish the story and tell more people, making many of them paranoid, not just of this action, but of asshats like this in general. Some of us will be lumped in with the asshats unfairly.
I have given cash and physical Christmas gifts for ATFs. Took an ATF shopping one Christmas, so she could buy the gifts she wanted. It was about $300 in damage, but she was worth it. Been seeing her for seven years.
For everyone who hates reading long reports just go ahead and skip right by this. But for those who don't mind or looking for something to read to kill some time I hope it's written in a way in which is easy to read through.
One of my good long time HK providers told me work had been slow lately and that if I got a room on Sunday she would come up multiple times at no extra charge whenever she got bored. I had told another girl from Chicago I was going to visit her that night but the offer I had on the table made me push back my plans with her. Checked into my room and met up with my girl. She was bored out of her mind sitting at Chavelas when I arrived and introduced me to a friend of hers I had never seen before. We hit it off pretty much right away although she's not necessarily my type. She reminded me of one of the girls from Jersey Shore. But she was very friendly and good looking enough. I got some beers for the table as I continued charming her friend as it never hurts to win the friends over. I could tell my girl wanted to have a threesome with her so I figured better do it now that they're both free before things started to get busy for them. We headed back to my room and went on to have a pretty good session with them. After we were done my girl mentioned she was starting to get hungry so I told her I would treat her to a meal at Azul whenever she wanted to take her lunch break and she said ok. They went back to work and I stayed behind to take a shower.
I laid down for a little while then headed back to the club and saw my girl drinking with a couple so I figured she would be busy for a bit. I was making my rounds when all of a sudden I was entranced by a young bombshell. Very gorgeous girl with an incredible body, all natural to boot. Being a vet on the mongering scene I have become somewhat jaded to the many girls I encounter on a weekly basis no matter how good looking they are. But when I placed my eyes on this girl it gave me flashbacks of how I used to feel as a newbie whenever I would come across a chick that seemed out of this world to me. Surely I had never seen this girl before, she must be spanking new I thought. I was legit mesmerized. She was blonde, very light skinned, pretty face, nice smile, amazing perky rack. No tattoos that I can recall. At the time I didn't even consider her age a factor, I suppose I must have thought she was 21 or so. Later on in the night she told me she was 19. I wasted no time in approaching her with a tip. I told her, I'm not going to lie, usually I try to play it cool but I'm going to throw all that out the window because you are fucking stunning. You are drop dead beautiful. She looked at me a little taken aback and was instantaneously blushing. I continued admiring her body and told her to do a spin for me and said good lord you're all natural aren't you? She said yes, with a shy smile. You would think this girl is used to getting showered with compliments from men all day but it shockingly appeared that wasn't the case. I told her, look I'm going to be honest, I'm sort of tied in with another girl working here tonight. Would you be interested in joining us for a threesome? If you don't want to it's fine, I'm perfectly good having you all to myself! She sort of paused for a second and said sure. I said ok but you have to like girls. If you're not into girls this isn't going to work. You have to be fine with making out with her and getting eaten out because she likes girls probably even more than I do. She started blushing again and asked if I had any pictures of her. I started to show her several and she said, yeah for sure, she's very pretty. I said ok cool. She might be busy right now I think she's drinking with some clients but we can meet up a little later if you give me your number, and she put her number into my phone. I told her, seriously I'm not bullshitting. I'm taking you to my room tonight one way or another with or without her so make sure you answer my texts, and she said yes, definitely. At this point we probably should have agreed on a fee or any other extras but we didn't. She didn't seem to put any importance on it so I didn't either.
I lost track of my girl so I figured maybe she was banging somebody, but I got a text from her about 20 minutes later. She said she was ready to eat and asked if I would meet her at Azul. I was excited to tell her about the new girl I found for us to play with, but when I arrived she was already there with her friend back in tow to my surprise. We sat and had dinner for almost an hour before they had to go back to work. Her friend tried to give me some money for her share of the food but I told her I got it. Went back to the club while the girls went on the prowl for their next victims and saw the 19 year old girl drinking with a monger on the second floor. Fuck! This guy better not have her tied up for a long time, I thought to myself. I kept my eye on them from a distance. Eventually another girl joined their table. The guy seemed pretty wasted so it appeared like he was just looking to drink all night. I decided to take some laps. Eventually I grabbed a seat at the end of the bar. After about a half hour lo and behold the 19 year old was walking in my direction when a mesero grabbed her to make her dance up on the bar. I stood up and intervened and told him how about you get us some drinks instead. The girl was surprised to see me again. The waiter asked what she wanted when the dreaded request for the $30 wine came. The mesero was going to immediately leave to go get it without asking if I was cool with it but I stopped him in his tracks and said hold on a minute, bring her a beer instead. I then turned to her and said beer first, maybe wine later, and she just nodded. She asked what I was up to and told her just hanging around. I mentioned I saw her drinking with that other guy and was hoping she would lose him because I still wanted her. Several minutes later my girl happened to pass right by us and I pulled her in. I whispered in her ear, hey check out this girl I think she's hot and she's down for a threesome, do you like her or should I tell her to kick rocks? Now realistically of course I didn't want to lose her, but I had to make it appear to my girl like I really didn't care either way and play it cool. My girl gave her a good look over and whispered back to me that she liked her as well. I said should we go now or a little later? She said let's go right now. Fuck, you don't have to tell me twice! I whispered back to the other girl that my girl liked her and said let's go and headed our way up to my room. Keep in mind, still no talk of a fee or any extras like BBBJ / BBFS. Just going with the flow of things and hoping for the best.
Thankfully both girls hit it off right away and the conversation flowed pretty easily amongst the three of us the entire time. I made sure to keep the conversation moving and making them laugh. The girl asked how long we had known each other and my girl told her she has known me for a long time and that I was amongst one of the best people she had ever met working at HK, which scored me some big points with the new girl. My girl asked how long she had been on the job since she didn't seem to have seen her before either and she said she was on her second week. Unfortunately she is leaving a few days before Christmas to go back home. She said she wanted to try out HK for a little bit before deciding if she wants to come back after new years but that so far it was going ok. Once we got in the room and settled in I told the girl to stand in front of me at the foot of the bed as I caressed her body and kept showering her with compliments. My girl came over and started making out with her. My girl then took control and told her to lay down so she could eat her out. I started jerking off just watching them in disbelief at what I was looking at when it occurred to me to get this on video. The visual was just too damned good to not capture and didn't want to forget any of it. I had no fucking clue if this girl would be cool with me recording them so I politely asked if they minded if I took some video and my girl said she didn't give a fuck since she trusted me and asked her if she was ok with it. She gave us a look like she wasn't sure when my girl quickly suggested we shoot it at an angle to where her face was partially covered. She seemed to like that idea so she said ok. Of course, when I positioned my camera I got her face in full view LOL. I watched my girl go to town on her, giving her several big O's. I watched for as long as I could until I couldn't take it any longer and had to jump in. I took my girl in doggy as she continued eating the girl out. After several minutes my girl got up and said it was my turn to eat her out now. Yes ma'am! I went to town on her as well trying to out do my girl. Next I had her get up and sit on my face while my girl blew me. I then had the girl lay down ass up ready to get her in doggy. Now here's the tricky part because I had condoms and lube on the night stand assuming she wasn't the type to allow bare service but I decided to test the waters since me and my girl had already gotten her pretty loose and horny. Thought to myself fuck it and just stuck it inside of her to which she seemed perfectly fine with. No hesitation, no nothing, so I continued pumping away. I looked over to my girl to see if she had any type of reaction to me going in bare but she didn't seem to care either. My girl laid next to her to make out and was encouraging me to keep drilling her. Got her sideways then afterwards flipped her over in the missionary position as I made out with her then my girl scooted up to make out with me as well. Seeing her perky tits bouncing up and down finally did it for me and I couldn't hold out any longer. Didn't know whether to pull out or blow my load inside so I made sure she knew when I was going to cum so she could tell me to pull out if she wanted me to. She didn't say anything when I kept saying I was going to cum so I filled her pussy up to the very last drop. At this point I didn't even give a fuck if she got pregnant. I would gladly be tied to this girl forever LOL. I assumed she has to be on some form of birth control otherwise she wouldn't have let me finish inside. I guess the girl was still turned on because she started feeling up on my girl again and making out with her so they went at it a little longer just having a little bit more fun before hopping in the shower. I asked her if she had a boyfriend and she said no. I felt like asking do you want one? But didn't want to weird my girl out LOL. This is when I asked how old she was and she said 19 which I was a little surprised by but could see it. I didn't know if she was looking to get back to work or still wanted to hang out since we had about 15 or 20 minutes before our hour was up and I knew my girl was going to stay until they got kicked out so I tried giving her an out by telling her she was welcomed to stay but could head out as well if she wanted to get back to work and she said she was cool just hanging out until our time was up. She spent the rest of the time pretty much picking my girl's brain about working at HK since she is still fairly new and didn't seem to know much. My girl suggested she should charge guys $150 minimum for arribas since she's so young and hot. I playfully said WHOA WAIT A DAMN MINUTE. $150?! If you're going to start charging that you're going to have to start doing so after me! Which got a good laugh out of both of them. Speaking of money I still hadn't given the girl anything. She never quoted anything so I had no clue what she was expecting. It didn't help that my girl had just suggested she start at $150! Considering she was spending the full hour with us when she could have easily went back to work and also blessed me with the green light for BBFSCIP, I figured I couldn't give her anything less than $120. For a second I thought of throwing an extra 20 on top of that to stay in her good graces but decided to give her the $120 and see how she reacted. When my girl went to the bathroom mirror to fix her make up I slid her the $120 and she didn't even count it and quickly stashed it in her purse. After my girl was ready I walked both of them back to the club. The girl gave us both a kiss goodbye at the door and went on her way. I figured my girl would try to go on the hunt for one last arriba before the end of her shift but she asked if we could just have a couple drinks to run the clock down instead which I was happy to oblige.
When her time was up we said our goodbyes and made TLN plans for next time when she could get a sitter. It was pretty late now so I made a couple more rounds out of curiosity to see who was around at this time of night and there was surprisingly still a lot of hot chicks on duty. I handed out a few tips from the dollar bills I had left and was super tempted to take another girl back to my room after feeling up several chicks. This one tall and curvy girl was telling me all the right things and promised BBBJ and said she would allow me to cum anywhere I wanted on her. Her face wasn't the best looking but her body and attitude made up for it. As tempting as it was I figured I better get out of there before I ended up spending more money than I already had. Maybe I can take her up on that offer on a future visit if the price is right. Just as I was heading out I ran into the 19 year old girl again. I was coming down from the second floor and she was heading up. We stopped in the stairwell to talk for several minutes. She told me she had a great time with me and my girl and I told her we had a good time with her as well. She said she's thinking of getting her ass done to make it curvier and I told her don't you dare touch your body it's literally perfect, turn around. She turned around and I was touching and admiring her ass. I said look, this is an amazing 19 year old ass do you know how many other women in here are envious of your body? Please don't do anything to it. At least if you do wait until your mid to late 20's, right now you are in the prime of your life. She then made an expression as if she couldn't handle every compliment I was giving her and she gave me a kiss and told me I was very sweet and doing wonders for her self esteem. I said look, at the end of the day I know I'm just someone you barely met and I know you're going to end up doing whatever you want to do but please just rethink it, I'm telling you. Ask any man in here they will tell you your body is perfection. She was then fanning herself with her own hands while blushing and asked if I was going to hang around and told her I was on my way out. She said she was going to head up to the women's locker room to hang out for a bit and asked when I would be coming back next time and I told her pretty soon. I said I'm definitely coming back to be with you again before you leave that's a certainty! She said ok let me know then and we kissed goodbye. Damn if I had more money I should have invited her for some drinks to hang out with her a little longer but I had already went over my limit for the night which I rarely do but I allowed myself to splurge a little bit for tonight and have zero regrets.
Explorer8939
12-15-23, 01:06
Thank you! That is great to know! Damn, so basically the pedwest entrance back to the USA is worthless if it closes at 2 pm.PedWest is closed temporarily.
Just as I was heading out I ran into the 19 year old girl again. I was coming down from the second floor and she was heading up. We stopped in the stairwell to talk for several minutes. She told me she had a great time with me and my girl and I told her we had a good time with her as well. She said she's thinking of getting her ass done to make it curvier and I told her don't you dare touch your body it's literally perfect, turn around. She turned around and I was touching and admiring her ass. I said look, this is an amazing 19 year old ass do you know how many other women in here are envious of your body? Please don't do anything to it. At least if you do wait until your mid to late 20's, right now you are in the prime of your life. She then made an expression as if she couldn't handle every compliment I was giving her and she gave me a kiss and told me I was very sweet and doing wonders for her self esteem. I said look, at the end of the day I know I'm just someone you barely met and I know you're going to end up doing whatever you want to do but please just rethink it, I'm telling you. Ask any man in here they will tell you your body is perfection. She was then fanning herself with her own hands while blushing and asked if I was going to hang around and told her I was on my way out. She said she was going to head up to the women's locker room to hang out for a bit and asked when I would be coming back next time and I told her pretty soon. I said I'm definitely coming back to be with you again before you leave that's a certainty! She said ok let me know then and we kissed goodbye. Damn if I had more money I should have invited her for some drinks to hang out with her a little longer but I had already went over my limit for the night which I rarely do but I allowed myself to splurge a little bit for tonight and have zero regrets.Great report, sounds like Chanukah has been good for you. I don't think anyone needs to apologize for long reports as long as they don't involve every single detail of what they did that night. It's sad she has gotten caught up in this BBL trend, hopefully more guys will tell her that she is perfect.
I always admire your ability to stay on budget, I guess since I don't go as often I always have enough to do anything because you never know what will happen. Back in the days of living pay check to pay check I'd actually use my Discover card at Ralph's to get cash back, the problem was it would only be $35. So I had about 10 Ralph's I would stop at on my way to Tijuana.
Great report, sounds like Chanukah has been good for you. I don't think anyone needs to apologize for long reports as long as they don't involve every single detail of what they did that night. It's sad she has gotten caught up in this BBL trend, hopefully more guys will tell her that she is perfect.
I always admire your ability to stay on budget, I guess since I don't go as often I always have enough to do anything because you never know what will happen. Back in the days of living pay check to pay check I'd actually use my Discover card at Ralph's to get cash back, the problem was it would only be $35. So I had about 10 Ralph's I would stop at on my way to Tijuana.That's quite an excursion for some zona money but I suppose at the time you thought it was worth it.
On this particular trip I didn't stay within a budget at all. I thought I was just going to go arriba with my girl 2-3 times during her shift for the price of one. I didn't plan on having a threesome at all, let alone two. The fichas quickly add up as well. But I figured I might as well go with the flow and not worry so much about money for once and like I said, I didn't end up regretting it, thankfully.
SportMongr
12-17-23, 05:30
Entry fee to club on weekend and Fridays is now $6 up from 5 $.
Some of these HK girls are so freaking hot I'm pretty sure they could easily get a regular job just be / see of their attractive looks. Great for us, but such a shame to have such amazingly beautiful women be ravaged and degraded by so many customers as a hooker.
.Does the $6 entry come with a beer in hand? If not, dam there goes the ability to check in / out easily, and I bet the fee doesn't even slow down the sausage factory 1 bit. Tijuana cartel must have hired a cost accountant and economist to push the boundaries of supply and demand.
I say that every time, when I see some of these stunners in the club. It's even more shocking when you see them backpacks / US passports in right in front of you checking in with immigration from US into Mexico. I'm like dam? You could easily find some rich dude in the states. But they'd rather make their $$ in the clubs. Perhaps it's a lack of brain power. They don't have the vision.
Does the $6 entry come with a beer in hand? If not, dam there goes the ability to check in / out easily, and I bet the fee doesn't even slow down the sausage factory 1 bit. Tijuana cartel must have hired a cost accountant and economist to push the boundaries of supply and demand.
I say that every time, when I see some of these stunners in the club. It's even more shocking when you see them backpacks / US passports in right in front of you checking in with immigration from US into Mexico. I'm like dam? You could easily find some rich dude in the states. But they'd rather make their $$ in the clubs. Perhaps it's a lack of brain power. They don't have the vision.I highly doubt chicas with passports and visas are staying in Tijuana hooking. I've met some that traveled the world and worked at clubs throughout Europe. Also most clubs have a cover like $10-$30 and comes with first drink. Normal clubs have more expensive cover charge. I am sure the accountants could push the limit and charge $10-$20 to enter or even higher to make it more exclusive, but sure they are more knowledgeable and just want butts in seats to sell multiple drinks. Also the chicas know they have a shelf life on how much they can earn before things start going downhill. It is a revolving door of younger and hotter.
Does the $6 entry come with a beer in hand? If not, dam there goes the ability to check in / out easily, and I bet the fee doesn't even slow down the sausage factory 1 bit. Tijuana cartel must have hired a cost accountant and economist to push the boundaries of supply and demand.
I say that every time, when I see some of these stunners in the club. It's even more shocking when you see them backpacks / US passports in right in front of you checking in with immigration from US into Mexico. I'm like dam? You could easily find some rich dude in the states. But they'd rather make their $$ in the clubs. Perhaps it's a lack of brain power. They don't have the vision.Tijuana price is almost as expensive as in the states, and make $$ in Mexico where its perfectly legal is much better than doing the same in the US.
For everyone who hates reading long reports just go ahead and skip right by this. But for those who don't mind or looking for something to read to kill some time I hope it's written in a way in which is easy to read through.
One of my good long time HK providers told me work had been slow lately and that if I got a room on Sunday she would come up multiple times at no extra charge whenever she got bored. I had told another girl from Chicago I was going to visit her that night but the offer I had on the table made me push back my plans with her. Checked into my room and met up with my girl. She was bored out of her mind sitting at Chavelas when I arrived and introduced me to a friend of hers I had never seen before. We hit it off pretty much right away although she's not necessarily my type. She reminded me of one of the girls from Jersey Shore. But she was very friendly and good looking enough. I got some beers for the table as I continued charming her friend as it never hurts to win the friends over. I could tell my girl wanted to have a threesome with her so I figured better do it now that they're both free before things started to get busy for them. We headed back to my room and went on to have a pretty good session with them. After we were done my girl mentioned she was starting to get hungry so I told her I would treat her to a meal at Azul whenever she wanted to take her lunch break and she said ok. They went back to work and I stayed behind to take a shower..This blonde bombshell must me why. From Sonora.
This blonde bombshell must me why. From Sonora.Please don't quote a really long report just to leave a one sentence reply!
SportMongr
12-19-23, 00:14
I highly doubt chicas with passports and visas are staying in Tijuana hooking. I've met some that traveled the world and worked at clubs throughout Europe. Also most clubs have a cover like $10-$30 and comes with first drink. Normal clubs have more expensive cover charge. I am sure the accountants could push the limit and charge $10-$20 to enter or even higher to make it more exclusive, but sure they are more knowledgeable and just want butts in seats to sell multiple drinks. Also the chicas know they have a shelf life on how much they can earn before things start going downhill. It is a revolving door of younger and hotter.Not saying you're wrong but I have a very good observation skills and I can easily spot club girls / workers quite easily from civilians. So many times when I was parking in the old lot and walk across bridge countless "workers" are coming back home from work. I know the look, style, walk, and facial expression. Occasional dark shades some not. My best friend is in the Adult film industry and "worker's" in Tijuana tend to have a similar vibe as the ladies who F on film for $900-$1,000 per scene.
I understand those Euro clubs and even are US clubs charge entry fee's $10-$25 to walk in but Tijuana had never been that type of place. I guess they seem to be heading that direction. It will be interesting to see how this economic experiment works out time will tell. I would think the club makes more $$ on beer sales than anything and charging $15-$20 at the door plus $8- $15 drinks seems cost prohibiting for a large portion of a clubs target market 18 - 28 year olds. Nothing stays good forever. :).
ABAJoeSmith123
12-19-23, 00:54
HK chica I used to date and broke up with be / see I refused to stop giving her mad $$$ monthly support started posting videos of herself in some other guys personal hotel room literally a day after we broke up. She had already found herself a new sucker to bleed money off of.
I show up in the club maybe 2 months later and I see her back to selling her ass inside the club. So sad. I guess it didn't work out with new guy and he just used her for rabid sex like most guys and refused to be her retirement plan and she's back to square one selling her ass in the club.
I feel bad for her, but what can you do honestly if you're not willing to go bankrupt to "save a ho".
Rainman306
12-19-23, 03:02
I've managed to befriend a few long term strippers over the years (in USA not Mexico), but I think the concept still holds true. You'll get the guys that send money at first but stop after awhile. Usually because -.
1. It's getting to be too expensive, can't afford or no longer a worthwhile "investment".
2. The girl failed to progress in doing enough or being their top choice.
3. They get back into a real relationship & don't need any of this BS.
4. Finally, it seems a number of these guys only intended the financial support to be temporary & when a real relationship didn't form it was over.
I typically don't advise to send money, but in rare instance in can be beneficial. But I'd make damn sure she really needed it beforehand.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-19-23, 03:05
I've managed to befriend a few long term strippers over the years (in USA not Mexico), but I think the concept still holds true. You'll get the guys that send money at first but stop after awhile. Usually because -.
1. It's getting to be too expensive, can't afford or no longer a worthwhile "investment".
2. The girl failed to progress in doing enough or being their top choice.
3. They get back into a real relationship & don't need any of this BS.
4. Finally, it seems a number of these guys only intended the financial support to be temporary & when a real relationship didn't form it was over.
I typically don't advise to send money, but in rare instance in can be beneficial. But I'd make damn sure she really needed it beforehand.Couldn't agree more. I think I'm in the first group you described (getting too expensive). I could afford it but was stupid to be flushing so much money down the toilet for the same services I could be getting for just 1/20th the cost in the club.
Cocr Brotheler
12-19-23, 07:02
Please don't quote a really long report just to leave a one sentence reply!Yeah I'm in agreement with this having researched many threads before trips and having to sift through a lot of repeats however is so quick and easy. Sometimes I feel like I've copied too much of a thread but try very hard to 'distill' down.
BrotherMouzone
12-20-23, 05:28
I've managed to befriend a few long term strippers over the years (in USA not Mexico), but I think the concept still holds true. You'll get the guys that send money at first but stop after awhile. Usually because -.
1. It's getting to be too expensive, can't afford or no longer a worthwhile "investment".
2. The girl failed to progress in doing enough or being their top choice.
3. They get back into a real relationship & don't need any of this BS.
4. Finally, it seems a number of these guys only intended the financial support to be temporary & when a real relationship didn't form it was over.
I typically don't advise to send money, but in rare instance in can be beneficial. But I'd make damn sure she really needed it beforehand.IMO there's no scenario in which being a "sugar daddy" (I. E. , "sucker") for any of these chicas is a good idea. I'm sorry but I find it hard to respect anyone who goes that route. Just oozes poor judgement. When I read here about a poster engaging in that sort of behavior it's a red flag and I kind of know at that point I probably don't need to be taking "advice" from said poster about anything related to Tijuana, LOL.
Explorer8939
12-21-23, 06:43
HK chica I used to date and broke up with be / see I refused to stop giving her mad $$$ monthly support started posting videos of herself in some other guys personal hotel room literally a day after we broke up. She had already found herself a new sucker to bleed money off of.
I show up in the club maybe 2 months later and I see her back to selling her ass inside the club. So sad. I guess it didn't work out with new guy and he just used her for rabid sex like most guys and refused to be her retirement plan and she's back to square one selling her ass in the club.
I feel bad for her, but what can you do honestly if you're not willing to go bankrupt to "save a ho"."Save a ho" is a really weak concept.
Most working women have a local man on the side who they give their money to. I have a lady coming over now who has a foreign husband, and two local boyfriends. And no money.
Another bargirl constantly hounds me for cash for food. Or rent money.
She just bought a bar.
HK chicas can make more $ than most of their customers.
DonCarlos1234
12-21-23, 12:52
Not saying you're wrong but I have a very good observation skills and I can easily spot club girls / workers quite easily from civilians. So many times when I was parking in the old lot and walk across bridge countless "workers" are coming back home from work. I know the look, style, walk, and facial expression. Occasional dark shades some not. My best friend is in the Adult film industry and "worker's" in Tijuana tend to have a similar vibe as the ladies who F on film for $900-$1,000 per scene.
I understand those Euro clubs and even are US clubs charge entry fee's $10-$25 to walk in but Tijuana had never been that type of place. I guess they seem to be heading that direction. It will be interesting to see how this economic experiment works out time will tell. I would think the club makes more $$ on beer sales than anything and charging $15-$20 at the door plus $8- $15 drinks seems cost prohibiting for a large portion of a clubs target market 18 - 28 year olds. Nothing stays good forever. :).Interesting. Tijuana has the top level lounge (9th floor) / rooftop areas I think mostly for "known customers" or people with unlimited cash go there. I know some girls who never hit the downstairs area and go strait upstirs. I kinda want to visit that area on my next visit. See if it compares to Scandallo in Brazil. And talking with the girls who fly to Dubai / Europe etc. Is very entertaining. Anyone spend time up stairs? Or am I just dreaming? LOL You would spend less time sorting thru the motley crew of loosers downstairs if they have the top girls already sorted and upstairs.
I was at Hk for the first time and I made the mistake of allowing the girl to order a drink on her own. And, of course, she ordered the $30 small wine bottle. Is there anywhere I can find list of recommended drinks and its price? Thanks.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-22-23, 07:50
"Save a ho" is a really weak concept.
Most working women have a local man on the side who they give their money to. I have a lady coming over now who has a foreign husband, and two local boyfriends. And no money.
Another bargirl constantly hounds me for cash for food. Or rent money.
She just bought a bar.
HK chicas can make more $ than most of their customers.Probably 100% true. I'm making a generalization so feel free to disagree, but a large portion of the customers at HK look like young college / postcollege kids likely without a real job or job at all or mid age adults with with some blue collar job that pays them a paycheck that they live off of month to month. Hot HK girls make 10 x more in a day than all these folks. Don't forget all the gifts and online money transfers these girls get from simps when they're not even working. And if they're willing to do something higher risk, disgusting, or demeaning to themseves, they'll probably make 20 x more in a day than most of the HK customers in their avg american job.
There is a price list of most every drink offered at HK above the back bar by the soap stage.
I was at Hk for the first time and I made the mistake of allowing the girl to order a drink on her own. And, of course, she ordered the $30 small wine bottle. Is there anywhere I can find list of recommended drinks and its price? Thanks.
ABAJoeSmith123
12-22-23, 21:00
Interesting. Tijuana has the top level lounge (9th floor) / rooftop areas I think mostly for "known customers" or people with unlimited cash go there. I know some girls who never hit the downstairs area and go strait upstirs. I kinda want to visit that area on my next visit. See if it compares to Scandallo in Brazil. And talking with the girls who fly to Dubai / Europe etc. Is very entertaining. Anyone spend time up stairs? Or am I just dreaming? LOL You would spend less time sorting thru the motley crew of loosers downstairs if they have the top girls already sorted and upstairs.Damn. I never knew this existed. I wonder what happens up there. Is it just a private room where people spend hundreds of dollars on drinks or some massive sex orgy room.
DonCarlos1234
12-23-23, 02:59
"Save a ho" is a really weak concept.
Most working women have a local man on the side who they give their money to. I have a lady coming over now who has a foreign husband, and two local boyfriends. And no money.
Another bargirl constantly hounds me for cash for food. Or rent money.
She just bought a bar.
HK chicas can make more $ than most of their customers.Did you guys ever hear "Runaround Sue" song or "You can't always get what you want" by the Stones GREAT ADVICE. But sometimes you can get what you need. Heck the whole Stones Album has good advice. Let it Bleed.
Damn. I never knew this existed. I wonder what happens up there. Is it just a private room where people spend hundreds of dollars on drinks or some massive sex orgy room.I think it only opens in the weekends, not sure now. But your ride 2 elevators all the way the the top and you find a wide open bar surrounded with glass walls all around, presented with the pleasant skyline of Zona Norte. . The action lacks the intensity you find down on the main floor. Excellent to have a birthday, Christmas, new years parties. Nothing much more. Prices are the same.
Damn. I never knew this existed. I wonder what happens up there. Is it just a private room where people spend hundreds of dollars on drinks or some massive sex orgy room.Thought I responded but my post did not show up. First timer here. The club in the 9th floor, you get to after riding the back side elevator to the top, you will be presented with a wide room with a big bar in the center surrounded with seats with floor to ceiling glass walls the show you the pretty skyline of zona norte. The place is good for birthdays, Christmas, new year and other private parties. The price is the same. The action really lacks the intensity of the main club in the first floor.
Cocr Brotheler
12-23-23, 20:37
I was able to take a peak a couple years back. I asked one of the staff if I could take a look and let me go up. It has a lot of mirrors and silvery things. Looks cool. No one in there at the time.
BrotherMouzone
12-24-23, 05:39
I was able to take a peak a couple years back. I asked one of the staff if I could take a look and let me go up. It has a lot of mirrors and silvery things. Looks cool. No one in there at the time.Is the 9th floor where they had everything going on during COVID or am I confusing that with the 8th floor?
Is the 9th floor where they had everything going on during COVID or am I confusing that with the 8th floor?At some point, the tale end of the pandemic they might have used it just before they became fully operational. Not totally sure though. During their total close they were using different floors at different times. I know Adelita opened a bar on the hotel floor called The Club. I was there once.
Explorer8939
12-24-23, 16:40
Is the 9th floor where they had everything going on during COVID or am I confusing that with the 8th floor?It was the 7th floor.
I only went there one time, and held my breath the entire visit. It was probably the most dangerous place in North America.
I think it only opens in the weekends, not sure now. But your ride 2 elevators all the way the the top and you find a wide open bar surrounded with glass walls all around, presented with the pleasant skyline of Zona Norte. . The action lacks the intensity you find down on the main floor. Excellent to have a birthday, Christmas, new years parties. Nothing much more. Prices are the same.I think some are confusing 2 different things. The ninth floor is the last floor of the hotel and has big baller suites. You can see them on the website and the prices. Those would be good places if you have a bachelor party or something and wan privacy.
The 10th floor is the club they built during COVID but by the time they finished it the COVID restrictions were mostly over. It's was talked about by a few guys on this board but wasn't anything special, if I remember correctly they woul close HK at 5 am and tell people to go to the 10th floor to party more but most just left since most girls were done by that time. I remember at one time they were forcing the waiters to go and work for 1 hour in that club and they all hated it. Not much business and a very stale or boring atmosphere.
I have no idea if the still use it I haven't bothered asking about it for at least a year.
Had a great experience stopping into HK met up with a blonde bombshell from Sonora and had a couple drinks and got her WhatsApp for an OTC future meet. As I was leaving on the Chavalas side there were a ton of chicas waiting around to eventually walk into HK side. One very sexy slim dark skinned hottie caught my attention.
We flirted and joked around and she got close and touchy feely. I sensed a winner so immediately got us drinks and we sat down at a table. Well she proceeded to get even closer and rubbed herself all over showering me with her beautiful body and million dollar smile. She was hitting all my points: light DFK, nipple kiss and pussy touch smell, and getting me rock hard.
Quickly bought another round and mentioned only do OTC at HK since most girls want over $100 now for only 30 min and I hate the $40 room charge. So got her WhatsApp for a future date and was planning on heading over to CC where I usually get lucky with a hottie for $60-$80 and the room fee is only $20.
However she demanded I fuck her for only the price of a bucket of 6 beers at the VIP. She was oozing sexiness and thought well this offer is too good to be true and told her so.
She then dialed it up a notch to the point of me not caring whether she would hit me for an extra fee if I took her to the VIP room. So we went upstairs and we immediately started DFK, hands all over and she then positioned herself like a pornstar and we fucked! It was decadent.
After we were done she said all she wanted were the fichas she earned and to satisfy her urge to fuck. I thought wow what a little sexy nympho.
We have been keeping in touch ever since. BTW the hot blonde bombshell that I first met will have to wait.
BrotherMouzone
12-24-23, 22:58
At some point, the tale end of the pandemic they might have used it just before they became fully operational. Not totally sure though. During their total close they were using different floors at different times. I know Adelita opened a bar on the hotel floor called The Club. I was there once.Yeah, I went to the The Club at Adelitas a couple times during COVID. Before The Club I think Adelitas had a lesser, makeshift club set up in one of their hallways. Tropical and Chicago also had their own makeshift clubs during COVID. Funny to me how in Mexico it seems like there's always a workaroound for pretty much anything. Can't get away with stuff like that in the US for too long.
One very sexy slim dark skinned hottie caught my attention.
Did she say she is from Cuba? If so then you had a Gem.
StubbornMule
12-25-23, 01:42
Hello all,
I'm considering a trip to Tijuana in early January. The flight I would take to San Diego arrives at 7:30 pm. Can I take the blue line down to San Ysidro at that time? I've been in the afternoon but never in the evening. Also I heard PedWest is closed. Will I be able to cross into Tijuana from San Ysidro? What time does the border crossing close? TIA.
BrotherMouzone
12-25-23, 02:32
Probably 100% true. I'm making a generalization so feel free to disagree, but a large portion of the customers at HK look like young college / postcollege kids likely without a real job or job at all or mid age adults with with some blue collar job that pays them a paycheck that they live off of month to month. Hot HK girls make 10 x more in a day than all these folks. Don't forget all the gifts and online money transfers these girls get from simps when they're not even working. And if they're willing to do something higher risk, disgusting, or demeaning to themseves, they'll probably make 20 x more in a day than most of the HK customers in their avg american job.I don't know about 10-20 x more than the average HK customer but the harder working girls especially do make some bank. Two chicas I meet up with regularly have their kid (only kid in both instances) in private school with the $$$ they make from HK.
Aviator400
12-25-23, 17:36
Hello all,
I'm considering a trip to Tijuana in early January. The flight I would take to San Diego arrives at 7:30 pm. Can I take the blue line down to San Ysidro at that time? I've been in the afternoon but never in the evening. Also I heard PedWest is closed. Will I be able to cross into Tijuana from San Ysidro? What time does the border crossing close? TIA.PedEast doesn't close.
Explorer8939
12-26-23, 00:40
Until the line at the border crossing is reduced, Tijuana is off limits to me.
I guess most posters here use Sentri to cross, and so are unaffected by the long wait to get back to the US.
BrotherMouzone
12-26-23, 07:56
Hello all,
I'm considering a trip to Tijuana in early January. The flight I would take to San Diego arrives at 7:30 pm. Can I take the blue line down to San Ysidro at that time? I've been in the afternoon but never in the evening. Also I heard PedWest is closed. Will I be able to cross into Tijuana from San Ysidro? What time does the border crossing close? TIA.The 992 bus runs from the airport until midnight and the trolley system runs until 12:30-1 am so yeah, you'd have plenty of time if your plane arrives at 7:30. The PedEast border never closes.
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